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Date:         Thu, 24 Dec 1992 16:25:57 PST
From:         Mike <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>

Well, I went out and bought some CDs
before the big Trap Day (Xmas is a trap),
and I just wanted to let you know what I got:

1.  Moby Grape.  This debut album is quite impressive; it's got a touch of
  the Dead sound without all the hoopla.  It's good music to prepare
  breakfast.  Slightly Deadhead danceable, it has a certain charm to it.

2.  Jacksons Anthology.  This 2 CD compilation hit the spot.  I just love
  that Motown bass and rhythm section, and there is a lot of it here.
  Sure, a lot of it is cheeseball, but it brings back memories of the
  era and the cartoon.

3.  Acid Jazz I.  Plain and simple, a house beat with scant bits of solo
  improvisation.  I expected more than that.  It would have been cool to
  hear the "Kind of Blue" style of soloing in there a bit more, but I
  guess the emphasis is more on beat and dancing than on jazz.  It's
  just plain okay.

4.  Prince o+>.  I gotta admit, after _Lovesexy_ came out, I lost interest
  in the man.  Just for the hell of it, I took a chance on this one, and
  I think it's a pretty good effort.  The funk is there, the badness is there,
  but melody is lacking.  Remember the ol' days when you could sing along to
  "DMSR" or "When Doves Cry"?  It's just not there anymore.  It's sort of
  a husk of an album.  The grooves are top notch, though, and the bass
  is stylin'.  If only Prince would slow down and come up with a good
  song that people can sing along to again.  Are those days over?
  There's a lot of rapping on this album, if that's a treat to anyone.

That's all for now.  I have a cold now, so I don't have the energy to write
the novels I usually do.  Hope you have a safe and happy Christ-mass.

Mike Masuda
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From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: candidate for something Bloom hasn't heard

Paul mentions -

>The Subdudes (Kinda funky N'orlins R&B/pop/Cajun stuff; band name comes from
>   an incarnation of a previous band that started playing more 'subdued'
>   stuff. Actually, they may be bigger than I realize, as apparently folks
>   like John Hiatt, Bonnie Raitt, and Linda Rondstadt are fans.)

I actually picked up their tape when the radio station I worked at wanted
to get rid of their copy - very granola oriented, and they felt it was too
mainstream! - I actually like it...

Marsha

Marsha J. Ferziger
University of Chicago School of Law
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Although I didn't expect Clinton to say that he likes the Dead Kennedy's (
especially after viewing the sappy bio-video shown at the democratic 
convention), my gut is wrenching over his latest musical likes. Kenny G?! Oh 
please!! My hunch (and hope) is that he said one of those dumb politician 
things during the interview to collectively kiss mainstream America's ass.  (
I didn't hear the NPR feature.) If not, this situation has scarey 
implications for his ability to use sound judgement.  But then again, who 
does Ross Perot like? Tex Ritter? Porter Wagner? Freddy Fender? I suppose it 
could be worse.

I'm in hearty agreement regarding the need to send Bill tapes with some 
Parker, Davis, Hawkins, Coltrane, Monk, Holiday, Bill Evans, Bruford, Howe, 
and other greats on them. Good luck getting a cassette past the Secret 
Service. (They would probably dismantle it thinking it was a bomb. Besides, 
they probably like Kenny G.) If nothing else, we should at least consider 
sending him a copy of Oliver Nelson's  _Blues and the Abstract Truth_ or 
Yes' _Tales From Topographic Oceans_ on CD.

If his "tastes" in music are any indicator of his decision making ability, 
God help us all! My above comments concerning the Dead Kennedy's are in no 
way a meant to put them on the same scale with the other artists I've 
mentioned. (Although, I confess that I sometimes like the Dead Kennedy's.) 
BTW, attributing musical taste to age is, to say the least, juvenile.

                     - Doug
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From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
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Tim, darlin'

>Finally - for Marsha:  A CAPPELLA  A CAPPELLA  A CAPPELLA  A CAPPELLA
>                       A CAPPELLA  A CAPPELLA  A CAPPELLA  A CAPPELLA
>                       A CAPPELLA  A CAPPELLA  A CAPPELLA  A CAPPELLA

Thanks hon, I appreciate it....I didn't see a smiley - so I'm not sure if
this was meant to be cute or scathing. I hope the former. The comment was
not just for you, but for veryone who has spelled it wrong lately....I hope
I didn't offend you!!!!

PS - no honrable mention for me? (sniff....) ;*)

Marsha


Marsha J. Ferziger
University of Chicago School of Law
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 07:48:46 PDT
From:         David Malbuff <SPGDAM@UCCVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Albrt King RIP

On Tue, 22 Dec 1992 09:29:55 CST Leonard said:
>Damn Albert King died of a heart-attack last night, a true blues legend
>one of the rare guitar players who's playing is "all meat and no filler"
>An influence to count-less players i'll miss the hell out of him....W

Yes, Albert King, I remember him. I think it was at the Bayou in Washington,
D.C., or maybe the Keystone in Berkeley. Great big mean-looking man. You
wouldn't want to mess with him. He was playing a Gibson Flying V, if I recall
correctly. He was a lefty who played a regular right-handed guitar turned
upside down, like a couple other guitarists we all could name. Huge hands.
It seemed like he could get anywhere on the fretboard in no time at all, and
he did. That guitar blazed.

Of the three King "brothers" (Albert, B.B., Freddie), I think Albert was the
best player, and he probably got the least recognition. Except from other
musicians, where his name was legend.

Like I said, he was a big, forbidding-looking man. Forever grumbling about
the music business, always griping that the "kids" playing today had no
respect for their elders, no respect for the music. Made you think he was
always quitting the music business... _tomorrow_ night.

Rest in peace, Mr Albert King.

There goes another one.

David
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              out - you'll not feel the fall-out..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
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>From: Thumper <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
>Subject: santa cums through

>I got my CD player...  :)
>Ok... now it's hooked up, but there's one small problem:  I don't own a
>single CD as yet.  I'm about to correct that problem and want to know from
>you guys the following:  What CD should have the dubious honor of deflowering
>my CD player and why?  I don't want it to be something you already know I
>own on cassette either...  :)

        A very interesting Italian band called TNR issued an amazing album
on CD last September: it's called "The Chessboard" and it may be a good one
to start with... both for you and, ahem, the band. :-)
        Seriously, and not wanting to start Digital Vs Analog War XXVII, if
I had to choose a CD which is both musically and technically astounding, I
would pick "The Seeds Of Love", by Tears For Fears.

        Listen at your beast. No, at your best. :-)

        Ciao, Marco

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Date:         Thu, 24 Dec 1992 16:45:23 PST
From:         Mike <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Is this a foreign language or what?

Marco,

"Matte Kudasai" means "Please Wait" in Japanese.
and Thela Hun Ginjeet is an anagram for "Heat in the Jungle".

btw, what is your opinion on the middle albums by Crimson?
Lizard
Starless
Poseidon
etc.

Mike Masuda.
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: tous les matins du monde
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 22:12:59 GMT

Wow, I can't believe the line about "period instruments" on "early
music" exploded like that.  I hope my original quotes were right, I
haven't seen the original Times article, but that was what my friend had
reported.

Roof quotes Zuckerman, and I don't know if Zuckerman would include Jordi
Savall in that group, but from the sound of the bio on Savall, he is a
specialist in medieval, renaissance and baroque musics.  I think his
performances for this film are damn happening.

As for the period instrument business, Anner Bylsma uses "baroque cello"
when he does Bach, and his cello suites are generally regarded as
definitive.  Not necessarily THE definitive, but they are a standard by
which others are measured by the classical music community.

My own view is that the period instruments people should be given a
chance to come up with something.  I don't know about the quality or
lack of quality of what Zuckerman is talking about.  He might be right.
But others might come up with something good.

I also like 20th century realizations of Bach.  There are some by
Schoenberg, Stravinsky, and Webern.  Igor's don't do much for me,
Arnolds's have moments, but Anton's are the greatest.  Glenn Gould on
piano.

You should judge each thing on its own merits.

Anti-intellectualism.  Yes, that is Reagan.

Jeff
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Subject:      re: Warning: contains self-promotion

From: MHB%MITVMA.BITNET@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU at INTERNET 12/23/92 2:31PM
Subject: Warning: contains self-promotion

>> different types of music. There are many types of heavy metal. You got
>> Progressive (Fates Warning, Queensryche), Thrash (Pantera, Metallica,
>> Megadeth), Industrial (Ministry), Death (Entombed, Possessed, Napalm Death),
>> Black (Venom, Celtic Frost), Pop [aka poseur glam crap] (Poison,
>> Warrant, Bon Jovi, ad nauseam), and then there's Hard Rock (Trouble, Tesla,
>> Great White) etc.

>I can (sometimes) tell these apart, but dollars to doughnuts Marcia can't,
>Leonard can't (and this isn't a criticism, I'll get to that later :-), and
>I might even bet against Tim on this one.

OK, I can buy this. But, anyone, *anyone* can tell the difference between
pop metal and death metal. Geez, what was I thinking. I forgot Alternative
Metal (Soundgarden). Oops, I seemed to have sparked some debate with the
'Progressive' sub-genre. Hey, I don't make up these classifications. Ya gotta
call them something, though.

>>   ... Have any of *you* heard of Mekong Delta? Well, you'll hear about them
>> in a few weeks after I receive the CD by them I had to order specially from
>> Germany.

>Yeah, got a record (on a German label) titled after that Poe story, "The Music
>Of... " and I can't remember the guy's name. I thought it was impressive-- as
>apposed to most metalheads, they knew the virtues of judicious silences (and
>if that's not a straight line for Leonard, I don't know what is :-) and had
>some unusually bizarre changes and rhythms. Definitely a winner.

Fuck! Shot down in flames. Mr. Bloom, is there anything you *don't* have,
anything you *haven't* heard? For once, just once, I thought I mighta had
something none of you all heard of. Fuck! You even have the same album (they
have 5 or so) I am ordering. It's called _The Music Of Erich Zann_. Shit!

The song that turned me onto them was "Interludium (begging for mercy)". An
instrumental kinda Classical meets Heavy Metal. I have been told that the rest
of their music is unlike this though.

>                         ..
>I tried to not be Queensryche impaired, so I acquired a "preview copy" of

I like your umulat.


Seeya,                                          gmgettie@thama1.apgea.army.mil
Gary
"I broke a mirror the other day. I'm supposed to get 7 years bad luck,
 but my lawyer thinks he can get me 5."
- Steven Wright
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From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: female rock bands

>>Marsha, a moderately intellegent....
>
>  A moderately *what* ?    :-)
>
>                       -Tim

Tim-
You'll notice I said "moderately".....I can survive my first quarter at law
school, but I can't spell for shit....


Marsha "Did you know that you can spell the word "fish" phonetically as
"ghoti"?" Ferziger

Yes, I'm back and wading through 187 messages....

Marsha J. Ferziger
University of Chicago School of Law
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From:         jc-s <GE777009@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: 1992 Allmusic Awards Nominations

>
>>5. Nastiest poster (Painful Plague Prize)
>
>Does renaming it to Allmusic Dominatrix count?  If so, nerves of
>steel.
>
>
>there you have it...
>
>Jeff

What do you mean by this, exactly?

jenna cole-steele
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From:         Tim Johnson <ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: 1992 Allmusic Awards Nominations

>1. Rising star or revelation of the year.

 "Well, I'm not quite gone yet...." by you know who.

>2. Wittiest poster.  (Rolling on the Floor Laughing Prize)

 Adam.  (The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny)

>3. Most consistent initiator & promoter of dialogue. (Threadmaker Award)

 Mike Masuda

>4. Funkiest poster.

 Sonia

>5. Nastiest poster (Painful Plague Prize)

 Ruxpin (may he rest in peace)

>6. Friendliest and kindest Allmusicker.

 Marco

>7. Clueless poster award. (Frippie Prize)

 Sorry Len, this bud's for you.  (meant, of course,
 in the best possible way.  ;-)

>8. Grossest musical mistake in a post.  (Ignoramus Prize, aka Renato Barahona
>Award for misattribution of _Ionisation_)

 Peter and the Wolf attributed to Tchaikovsky.  ;-)

>9. Most original review of a tape, album or CD.

 Sonia

>10. Sexiest poster.  (Libby Doe Prize)

 e.    (from days long gone by)

>11. Most playful poster.

 Carol O'Lickme

>12. Best Allmusic flamer.

 Well, if not me, I nominate MMORSE, though I'm prejudiced
 by his output on other lists.

>13. Most astonishing confession or personal revelation.

 I don't know about astonishing, but I liked Ken's series,
 and Renato's moments remembered.

>14. Strangest Allmusic post.

 I want to nominate my "forgot to enclose the lyrics" post.

>15. Classiest Allmusicker.

 Marco

>16. Most dazzling all-around poster.

 Bloomdido

>17. Keeper of the Allmusic flame award.  (To the person who epitomizes
>the spirit & ideals -- whatever they might be -- of the list.  This is the
>highest honor that can be accorded an Allmusicker.)

 Gotta be Da Beer.  Lifetime achievement award.


Added Category:

18)  Most Missed, should he ever depart the list for real....

 Renato, of course.


Honorable mentions who I'd put on the list if
there was a good category for them:

  n.n.
  Mike t.l.g.
  chuckrateeze
  Rotcod Zzaj
  Scott Hammer
  - Drummer -
  Russ
  Dave Hall
  Bob 'Bob' C.
  Paul Heroy

To those of you I forgot to mention, forgive me.

Finally - for Marsha:  A CAPPELLA  A CAPPELLA  A CAPPELLA  A CAPPELLA
                       A CAPPELLA  A CAPPELLA  A CAPPELLA  A CAPPELLA
                       A CAPPELLA  A CAPPELLA  A CAPPELLA  A CAPPELLA


                                     -Tim
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 10:27:30 CST
From:         Leonard Watkins <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Lenster and the Big Guy

On Tue, 22 Dec 1992 11:05:53 EST Tim Johnson said:
>
>Well, Len, I think the reasoning is that God can pretty well
>take care of himself, and people dissing the Old Man are only
>putting their own eternal life in jeopardy.  On the other hand,
>when a society turns against its minorities, things can get
>awfully tough for those folks.  I trust I won't have to make
>a list of examples (and one need not restrict oneself to the
>states in this).

Keep in mind this was not a "racial" statement by any means, One album cover
or song would not be a society it would just be some deranged rock-band bashing
minorities (women,.....etc). I agree that God can defend himself, but if you
respect and beleive in someone you will usually come to their defense, whether
they need it or not...............L. "My Car Died" W.
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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:45:25 EST
From:         Adam Levin <Adam.Levin@LAMBADA.OIT.UNC.EDU>
Subject:      A Phishy New Years

Phish is playing a sold-out New Years Eve concert tonight at Northeastern
University's Matthews Arena. WBCN (104.1 FM) will be rebroadcasting the
concert in its entirety tommorow at noon instead of the annual Dead
broadcast. It's expected to run at least 4 hours.

Now if only I had a functional tape deck!!!!!!!

-Adam (PhishHead deluxe)
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Subject:      Frank Zappa

Hey!  It's Zappa's b-day so somebody chime in on one of the finest composers
ever to thumb his nose at society. One of the few musicians who might be
 genuinely capable of being President, but who'd wanna?  In his autobiography
 he talks about discovering his classical hero Edgard Varese in a stereo store;
 The sales people apparently would use this screechy, bombastic careening
 *music* as a sound tester to show people this new thing called "stereo
 separation".  He apparently went in and asked where they got it, and they
 just gave him the store copy.  After that, on a subsequent b-day (his 13th or
 thereabouts) he asked as his present, to be allowed to *call* Varese long-
 distance.  Can't remember if he got his wish.
                                               Happy Birthday Frank!
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On Tue, 22 Dec 1992 10:29:00 EST Ken Koester said:

> Naw, if he/she did that, he/she wouldn't be a newbie any more

Well Ken, I have to admit that I am a newbie (something wrong about that ?).
But the point is that I stated a fact, that all those who listen to good musik
know. If I weren't a newbie, I would have done it the same way.

                                                                Tarek Seada
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From:         Thumper <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      santa cums through

Well... there you have it...

I got my CD player...  :)
(and another cassette deck too -- i wuzza good girl)

Ok... now it's hooked up, but there's one small problem:  I don't own a
single CD as yet.  I'm about to correct that problem and want to know from
you guys the following:  What CD should have the dubious honor of deflowering
my CD player and why?  I don't want it to be something you already know I
own on cassette either...  :)

Thanks!
Carol
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Subject:      Re: Worst Song Ever

On Mon, 21 Dec 1992 11:23:04 CST Leonard Watkins said:

>Does this also mean that you think Madonna is the worst singer ever.?

I think that Madonna should stick to what she does better (writing books, if you
   know what I mean), and leave the singing to those who can sing.
I don't have anything against her, but I prefer male singers.
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Subject:      RE: DAVEY

WELLLLLL.... nice to hear that someone else KNOWS Davey... in point of
fact, I have a FINE tape (if yer' interested, Dave), of him, his (maybe
former) wife & a mighty strange sax player named Wally Shoup, circa '82,
playing 'fake jazz' (i.e., zzaj) in a Birmingham joint called 'The
Cavern'!  MUCH fun!

ZZAJ
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From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject: Re: The Day the Music Died (V): What a Man of 40 Listens to
              These Day s

On Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:01:21 PST Jim Grubb said:
>made all the better by the fact that it was a surprise. At least 2 of the
>guys, Mike Marshall and Darol Anger, are now Windham hill guys and what little
>I have heard of them doesn't really thrill me. Tony Rice has a least of couple
>of solo albums but likewise I have never found them to have the same life as
>the first Grisman album. Grisman recently played an accoustic show with
>Garcia that got good reviews but I didn't see it. But for an album and at
>least the show I saw, they were great. Glad I was under 40 back then so I could
>REALLY appreciate it. ;-)
>JimG

Montreux, which was Anger, Marshall, and Anger's wife, Barbara Higbie, did some
pretty good things while they were together, especially the first (and live)
album.  Anger is now with Turtle Island String Quartet, Marshall with Modern
Mandolin Quartet, Higbie is on her own.  TISQ has gotten better with each new
album, IMHO; MMQ is an acquired taste.  Rice has a couple of good tunes on
each of his Unit albums, but has more or less returned to bluegrass.  Garcia
and Grisman together don't grab me as much for some reason.  =Dawg '90= is a
good album, very much like the first ones, if you haven't grabbed it yet.
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