From: CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXMP000)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: RE: PAD & Pros
Date: 21 Dec 92 15:40:50 GMT
Organization: McGill University

>
>    On the other end:  The "pros" that PAD spoke of don't get much respect
>from me.  As "pros", I'm sure they've heard many sharp comments about their
>work.  Why ignore us?  We're that generation that made comics so huge in the
>70's & 80's.  We've seen how great they can be!  Comics have kept me around
>for so long because it seemed to have gone through an adolescence in the
>'80's along with me.  Marvel and DC grew up with me.  What is happening?  Many
>of the books out there seem to be pre-adolescent drivel.
>
I'm going to add my 2\.

There is one thing that we have in common with pros, namely that we both
grew up reading comics (OK, OK, maybe, just maybe, some people who will
remain nameless who haven't grown up yet).Some of us will do nothing but
read, some of us go on to write and draw.  It is, of course, frustrating
to be on the outside looking in.  I don't think this is a reason to be
insulting.  I think PAD himself can tell you that writing is something
that comes with practice and that the best writers in comics today were
once no where near as good as they are today.

I know people here hate hearing about the LNH but I think this is a good
point: the LNH stories are actually getting better, noticably better in
fact since the Electrocutioner's Song fias--, uh, that is, story arc.
Perhaps we LNHers have a better understanding now of how long is takes
to become a truly professional writer.  Maybe.

One more thing of note was that PAD credited discussion here as the
inspiration for X-Factor #87, especially the Quicksilver dialogue, I
imagine, which was the best part of the book.  ("arrogance an art
form."  Suddenly this sounds ironic.)  I think it is truly tragic that
there are not more professionals here especially if, as PAD suggests,
it is because they feel insulted when they read articles about them.
Perhaps for most professionals the vast majority of the feedback they
get *is* from adolescents.  I wonder what I would do in such a situation
especially if I was just starting out and didn't know what to do.
It seems particularly tragic in that when I discuss things on the net, I
like to think that maybe, just maybe, I'm saying something that might
actually help the writer in question.  It would be nice if were so.
(Mind you, I have to wonder what, if anything, PAD passes on to his
fellow professionals.)

If there is any more discussion on this thread, could someone save it
for me?  I'm leaving for Ottawa this week.  Thanks.

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