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From: thad@public.BTR.COM (Thaddeus P. Floryan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI ID on an old Emulex MD21 controller?
Date: 12 Apr 92 06:01:12 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, Mountain View CA

In article <1992Apr9.174743.3466@equalizer.fps.com> billd@fps.com (Bill Davidson) writes:
>Several years ago, our office inherited a bunch of old 3/50's from
>another office and we didn't get much in the way of documentation.  I'd
>like to string several of these old SCSI shoeboxes together but I don't
>know how to change the SCSI ID on the Emulex MD21 controller.  There is
>a 4 pin set of jumper points next to the big square chip and they are
>labeled A, B, C, D.  Is it like the Adaptec controller which is:
>
>	id0=sd3=(no jumpers)
>	id1=sd1=AB
>	id2=sd2=CD
>	id3=sd0=AB,CD
>
>provided you can find A, B, C and D which usually aren't labeled.
>
>The Emulex board is labeled "ASSY MU2110402 REV R" and copyrighted 1985.

I'm looking right at an MD21 labelled "ASSY MU2110402 REV S" which is one
I took out of one of my Suns when I went exclusively to embedded SCSI drives.

Now, this is NOT a 100% guaranteed answer, but don't touch those A,B,C,D pins
near the square chip.

If you look at the board in the vicinity of the two LEDs, you'll note an 8-sw
DIP switch labelled "SW1".

Now here's where I'm uncertain: given that Emulex mfgs the MT-02 card for
adapting QIC tape drives to SCSI and that they have an 8-sw DIP switch to
select SCSI ID and parity, my >>GUESS<< is they use the DIP switch for the
same purpose on the MD21.  This guess is sort of confirmed by the fact that
the board I'm looking at is known to respond to SCSI ID=0 and that the switches
on the DIP switch coincide to how SCSI ID=0 would be set on the MT-02.

Thus: at SW1, switches 1,2,3 (weighted 1,2,4) select the SCSI ID.

If someone sends you a data sheet confirming that and/or describing the other
swiches on the MD21, I'd appreciate a copy (for use in future postings).

Thad Floryan [ thad@btr.com (OR) {decwrl, mips, fernwood}!btr!thad ]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: power receptacle for Sun server?
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 23:31:02 GMT
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology

In article <1992Apr5.195104.12461@ctr.columbia.edu> stevens@greece.ctr.columbia.edu (Andy Stevens) writes:
>Does anybody know what kind of electricity is used to power the older
>sun servers? ...  The current plug is a funky
>3-prong circular Hubbell plug, and both the plug and receptacle are
>labeled "30A 125V".  However, these numbers might refer to the safety
>rating of the plug, not the electricity coming out.

It's an ordinary "110 volt" circuit, but rated for twice the current of the
usual ones.  You need to get an electrician to put in the special outlet
and a 30A breaker.

If you're really not pulling anything like the full drain, you can replace
the plug with a regular three-prong and plug into a regular three-prong
outlet (which probably shouldn't have anything else on the same circuit).
However, *don't do this unless you know what you're doing*, and it sounds
like you're novices in this area.  This stuff can kill you if you get it
wrong, remember.
-- 
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                             -Dick Dunn |  henry@zoo.toronto.edu  utzoo!henry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: wcs@cbnewsh.ATT.COM (Bill Stewart 908-949-0705 erebus.att.com!wcs)
Subject: PC Mouses for Sun ( Was: Re: Trackball for SUN?)
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs Random Organization Name Generator
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 23:22:45 GMT
	<1992Apr6.194035.4458@med.umich.edu>

Spencer Thomas writes:
   Ok, so I've got this tendonitis problem, right?  So mousing is painful
   and aggravates it.  So I'd like to get a trackball instead.  Anybody
   know of one?  For a Mac, it's easy.  For a Sun, I don't know.  

Sounds familiar - I'm getting tennis elbow.  Getting a small table
that lets me put the mouse in a convenient place helps, but I'd really
like to know if there's some way to make a Sun use a PC-serial-mouse
(compatible trackballs exist) instead of those obnoxious optical mice.
Does anybody know the wiring, voltages, etc?  Can you replace the
mouse with *anything* out there?  Thanks!
-- 
				Pray for peace;      Bill
#Bill Stewart +1-908-949-0705 erebus.att.com!wcs AT&T Bell Labs 4M312 Holmdel NJ
# My *other* computer is a Sun 2/50!  
#    (New dinosaur owner looking for software, advice, etc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: labman@ecr.mu.oz.au (Bruce Robertson)
Subject: Multi mode monitor
Keywords: PC MacLC SUN
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 21:42:26 GMT

 Hi Netters,,,


 We are in need of a multi mode monitor.
 It is the desired intention of this
 academic institution to setup a
 computer theatre for lecturing purposes.

 The theatre will be fitted with 
 IBM-PC Clone
 MAC LC or similar class machine
 SUN Sparc 2 Workstation.

 We need a single monitor to work on
 all three machines. This monitor will
 be secured into a lecturn.

 We know of monitors that will run on
 both the PC and MAC However it is
 very desirable to run the same monitor
 with the SUN. 
 We will be running a standard SUN 
 video setup, that is the video board
 will be the cgsix.

 Any ideas out there, E-mail me brands
 and model numbers please. 

 Ta Muchly,,,,
  Bruce Robertson                               | labman@gondwana.ecr.mu.OZ.AU
  Department of Engineering Computer Resources, | labman@128.250.1.63
  C/o Faculty of Engineering,                 | Besides; It's not the Principle
  University of Melbourne, 3052. AUSTRALIA    | of the thing, it's the money.
From: johns@mcs213h.cs.umr.edu (John Stone)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: Help for 3rd vendors CDROM
Keywords: Sun CDROM drive
Date: 16 Apr 92 14:57:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: umriscc.4848
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla


 Hi,

It was said that you can only boot a Sun from a Sun CD-Rom machine.
If I were to buy a Sun CD-ROM, could I also use it on other equipment?
(i.e. a 386 with scsi etc? )         
I don't need to boot off of CD-ROM at all, but if I were to buy one,
I would like for it to work with both my PC and my Sun 3/140.
Can SunOS 4.1.1 use any CD-ROM I hook up (i.e. one of the fast Sony, or
  NEC drives????)

I say again, booting off of the CD-Rom is not important to me, I do have
the tape drive for that purpose (albeit slow..)

Thanks

        John Stone


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From: jim@ferkel.ucsb.edu (Jim Lick)
Subject: Re: New viking sparc processor?
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:30:33 GMT

In <TUTUI.92Apr14033920@silk.imel.kyoto-u.ac.jp> tutui@silk.imel.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Takashi &) writes:
>Adaptec SCSI controller for ATs have 10MB sync scsi data transfer
>rate!!

You'll never see anywhere near this rate.  PS- the figure for the 486
system I posted early is using the Adaptec 1542B controller, and the
Sparcs blew it away in disk transfer.  (And as someone asked, yes, the
system has 16 megabytes, and had plenty free.)

                            Jim Lick		       
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      Santa Barbara		|       Isla Vista, CA 93117-4280
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From: dodd@mycenae.cchem (Lawrence R. Dodd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: SPARCstations > 2?
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:54:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: mycenae.DODD.92Apr14085443
Organization: /home/dodd/.organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: mycenae.cchem.berkeley.edu


Does anyone know what machine will be the followup to the Sparc2?
That is, will there be a Sparc3 or will it have a different name? I
have heard rumors that it will be the Sparc3. What ever it will be,
what will be the speedup from the Sparc2 and when will they be
available?

Thanks in advance,

                            Larry
                            dodd@mycenae.cchem.berkeley.edu

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From: fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: New viking sparc processor?
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:02:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: thor.FISCHER.92Apr7230248
	<1992Apr2.084316.5726@ica.philips.nl> <ktmpavINNt9d@alhena.usc.edu>
	<1992Apr3.203322.21029@ukw.uucp>
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University

>>>>> "Lupe" == Lupe Christoph (lupe@ukw.uucp)

Lupe> Just an aside: I just ran a benchmark from a prospect. He wrote
Lupe> a small program on an Intel-based Unix machine (SCO or
Lupe> Interactive, whatever), using Informix C-ISAM. The CPU was a
Lupe> 486/33. I ran it on a SPARCstation 2, with Sun's NetIsam. *It
Lupe> ran 4 times faster*, almost CPU-bound. 28 seconds real time,
Lupe> user 18 secs, system 4.9 secs.

Which brings up an *extremely* important point: measure performance on
a *real*, *key* application, and use *that* as a guideline. If a SPARC
goes four time faster for what you intend to do, get that. You can
forget all those neat numbers, it's the bottom line that counts.

Lupe> Which tells me that you should never neglect software
Lupe> performance.

Indeed. 

/Lars
--
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From: tutui@silk.imel.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Takashi &)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: Help for 3rd vendors CDROM
Date: 17 Apr 92 05:25:49 GMT
	<1992Apr16.124013.5790@acsu.buffalo.edu> <4848@umriscc.isc.umr.edu>
	<1992Apr16.175408.17601@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Organization: Dept. of Medical Informatics, KYOTO Univ. Hospital, KYOTO, Japan.

>Then you can live well with Toshiba CD-ROM drive.  They are fast
>(325ms), reliable, compatible with PC, Mac, etc., and relatively
>inexpensive.
I read about the CDROM in a Mac magazine that Toshiba Drive
disruppts sounds occadionary, using Movie CDrom games. 
I want to know which drive is compatible with Mac CDrom games and Suns.
--
TAKASHI Tsutsui M.D.		tutui@silk.imel.kyoto-u.ac.jp
Dept. of Medical Informatics Hospital of KYOTO Univ.
SAKYO-ku KYOTO JAPAN	Zip 606		Phone +81-75-751-3647
  (automaticaly switched to the fax)	Fax   +81-75-751-3647
From: greenidd@CS.ColoState.EDU (danielle greenidge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: SCSI Tape Drive (1/4")
Keywords: SCSI, quarter-inch, tape
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:13:08 GMT
Organization: Organization?  Why start now?

Just a note to all interested SCSI users:

I'm doing a little recon for my company regarding potential market interest
in an affordable (~$2000) 4 Gigabyte quarter-inch SCSI tape drive.  If this
sounds like a viable alternative to your current (or near-future) tape
solutions, drop me a little e-mail note with your machine type(s) and phone
number (optional).

Thanx,

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From: tutui@silk.imel.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Takashi &)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: New viking sparc processor?
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:39:20 GMT
	<1992Apr8.082817.306@ica.philips.nl>
Organization: Dept. of Medical Informatics, KYOTO Univ. Hospital, KYOTO, Japan.


>  "Obviously"? But I'm under the impression that in your reaction, you want to
>  deliver the message that the bus speed doesn't really matter. The speed
>  difference between a 100MB/s Sbus and a 5MB/s ISA bus (and I've never even
>  got 5MB/s on my PC) is more than a factor 2. The 5MB/s is below a certain
>  threshold that you run into serious I/O problems. I'm not the only, first or
>  last person to tell this!
..............
>  But it will be clear to you that your more-than-hundred workstations make
>  use of the fast Sbus (if they have one). If you're talking about PC's
>  running X11 under Unix, then I'm very surprised to hear that they're as
>  responsive as a workstation.

Adaptec SCSI controller for ATs have 10MB sync scsi data transfer
rate!! That makes high use of the DMA bus band width. While,
setting aside the sparcserver, Sparcstations have 2-5M/s SCSI
controller in it. In case of SS2, it have two controllers, to make
high use of data BUS , disks should be put both in internal and in
external. The disk to attach should be changed to SCSI-II drives.
And cheaper sparcstations have only one SCSI.

While smart PC users use ADAPTEC controllers. EISA bus is faster.
Putting several SCSI (cheap) controllers, it seems to have >= performance
compared with ordinal sparcs.
--
TAKASHI Tsutsui M.D.		tutui@silk.imel.kyoto-u.ac.jp
Dept. of Medical Informatics Hospital of KYOTO Univ.
SAKYO-ku KYOTO JAPAN	Zip 606		Phone +81-75-751-3647
  (automaticaly switched to the fax)	Fax   +81-75-751-3647
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From: adrie@ica.philips.nl (Adrie Koolen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: New viking sparc processor?
Date: 8 Apr 92 08:28:17 GMT
Organization: Philips Consumer Electronics, Eindhoven, The Netherlands

In article <409@idtg.UUCP> dow@idtg.UUCP (Keith Dow) writes:
>> Keith> I don't know of any Sparc stations with expansion boards in
>> Keith> them, so the issue is moot.
>>
>>It is?  Ethernet performance, disk performance, et. al. are also I/O
>>issues, and, as I recall, both the le0 and esp0 appear "on the SBus"
>>even though they're on the motherboard.
>
>If you have to rely on fast ethernet performance to do fast calculations, you 
>are doomed.

I disagree. If I want to read/write files via NFS, I don't want it to slow
down because I also want to do file I/O to my local disk and perform screen
operations. A lot of workstations are networked via NFS and run X11.
So I support the argument that the speed of the Sbus is vital to get a good
performance on every SparcStation.

>Also, a slow disk can be sped up by getting more ram.  Eight
>megabytes costs about $300.   

That's not true, and of course you know it. With more ram, you often, but not
nearly always, can reduce disk access.

>Obviously a fast bus is good.  However a bus that is half as fast will do
>fine for many applications.

"Obviously"? But I'm under the impression that in your reaction, you want to
deliver the message that the bus speed doesn't really matter. The speed
difference between a 100MB/s Sbus and a 5MB/s ISA bus (and I've never even
got 5MB/s on my PC) is more than a factor 2. The 5MB/s is below a certain
threshold that you run into serious I/O problems. I'm not the only, first or
last person to tell this!

>>I also know of at least two SS2s with expansion boards (one has an ECL
>>bwtwo and a PrestoServe board; the other has one of the 13W3 bwtwos, and
>>both will be getting more cards at some point).  We only have two SS2s ;-)
>
>We have over a hundred workstations and several servers.  We don't need to
>load up our machines too much.  I can see that you do though. 

But it will be clear to you that your more-than-hundred workstations make
use of the fast Sbus (if they have one). If you're talking about PC's
running X11 under Unix, then I'm very surprised to hear that they're as
responsive as a workstation.

Adrie Koolen (adrie@ica.philips.nl)
Philips Consumer Electronics, Eindhoven, the Netherlands
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: horke@buchonia.rhoen.in-berlin.de (Bernhard Kroenung)
Subject: CD-Rom on 3/50 (NEC CDR-73)
Organization: fulmin Ebersburg/Rhoen
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 20:57:12 GMT

Hello
I tried to install the NEC-CD-Rom CDR-73 on my 3/50. Using SCSI ID 7
and "mount -r -t hsfs /dev/sr0 /directory" the light blinks for some
seconds and then the systems crashes.

Is there a special driver needed or is it impossible to use this
drive (or other) on an 3/50 ?

  Ciao
    Bernhard
-- 
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From: tse@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Anthony Tse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: New viking sparc processor?
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:30:09 GMT
Organization: Naval Research Labratory, Washington, DC

In article <404@idtg.UUCP> dow@idtg.UUCP (Keith Dow) writes:
-I believe the Sparcstation-2 is 27Specmarks.  If the 486 puts out 16Specs
-at 33Mhz, doesn't it put out 25Spec at 50Mhz?  Perhaps you can clarify
-the issue.  Maybe Intel isn't that far away now? 

--(All through, of course, remember that both ISA and EISA are terrible
--on IO, not something which comes into SPEC).

-I don't know of any Sparc stations with expansion boards in them, so
-the issue is moot.

   The issue is not moot, it's extremely important.
   Any real operating system is going to live or die by the disk
transfer rate.  Even with a super cache controller card, the PC
disk transfer rate can at best be about 1/5 as fast as the Sparc. I 
don't care how fast the 586 is, PC will still be a piece of sh*t unless
they do something about their bus.

-Anthony
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From: gp310ad@prism.gatech.EDU (ROBERT DUCKWORTH)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,misc.forsale.computers
Subject: Rasterops TC PIP 24bit video with live video in a window. $2000.00
Keywords: true color TC PIP rasterops 24 video 'S' bus sun
Date: 15 Apr 92 06:35:39 GMT
Followup-To: poster or call me at 404-874-5051
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Excess, unused, Rasterops TC PIP card for 'S' bus.
Requires 2 slots.
24bit 'true' color.
picture in a picture.

A bargain. I shopped around and Univ discount price is $3000.00
(if I'm wrong here, send me mail and i'll follow up with a correction)

thanks,

-bob


-- 
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From: wj@tweety.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Winfried Jansen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: powersupply SLC
Date: 8 Apr 92 09:21:34 GMT
Organization: University of Dortmund, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: tweety


-- 
Hi there,

we have got a defective 4/20 SLC power-supply.

What we need is a power-transistor. It`s named with 1202-01 from SGS-Thomson.
There is nothing else written on it.

Does anyone know, where we coud get this part or an equivalent transistor?

  Winfried Jansen             wj@irb.informatik.uni-dortmund.de
  Univ. Dortmund, IRB         wj@unido.uucp, wj@unido.bitnet
  Postfach 500500             Tel.: +49 231 755-2647
  D-4600 Dortmund 50          Fax : +49 231 755-2386
From: kls30@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Kent L Shephard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: disc `clunks' & errors
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:36:58 GMT
Reply-To: kls30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Apr13.143340.692@mlfarm.com> ron@mlfarm.com (Ronald Florence) writes:
>Sporadially (perhaps once every 3 weeks), the 669 mb. disc on our Sun
>3/80, running Sunos 4.1.1, emits a `clunk' sound, like the sound when
>the power is shut down to the disc, followed by a cascade of SCSI
>errors.  The errors generally include a syslog failure, sometimes
>accompanied by the death of the xterm console window or by a switch of
>the console to the default Sun 34x80 screen.  The system is attached
>to a UPS.  The errors have all happened at night or in the early
>morning; the only correlation that comes to mind is that the
>temperature in the room is low.  There seems to be no permanent damage
>to file systems after one of these episodes.

I had a CDC WREN IV model 94171-344 that had this problem.
THe drive was fine but the logic board on the disk was sort of flakey.
My drive would seek, clunk, then emit errors that ranged from media to
sense errors.

>
>Do the symptoms indicate terminal problems with the disc?  Would
>backing up everything and reformatting the disc help?  If the disc is

Reformatting mine did not help.  Actually trying to reformat the drive
made the controller go completely.

I would have the logic board repleced since the mechanism is good.
Logic boards are only a couple of hundred bucks.

>on its last leg, I'd welcome recommendations for brands and suppliers
>for a reliable 669mb or 1gb disc.  Thanks in advance for advice and
>suggestions.
>-- 
>
>				Ronald Florence
>				ron@mlfarm.com


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: ankleand@mtl.mit.edu (Andrew Karanicolas)
Subject: Help!  Essential difference between IPX and Sparc2
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:35:20 GMT

Hello everyone.

I need to find out the essential difference between the IPX and Sparc2
machines in terms of performance.  So far, they seem to be on parity
on the following parameters:
	2D accelerated graphics
	64M memory
	800M internal disk drive total

The main difference I have seen is that the Sparc2 uses two chips for
the CPU and floating point while the IPX uses one chip.  As the Sparc2
is much bigger physically, I would expect more expansion capability on
the Sparc2.

They both seem to have the same MIPS and SPECmarks, for what these
measures are worth.

Is there an essential difference?  Suprisingly, the IPX is about $3K
cheaper than a Sparc2.

What about reliability?  All that hardware and heat crammed into an IPX sounds
like a nightmare.

Can someone provide facts on the differences?  Thanks!

Andrew Karanicolas
MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratory
ankleand@mtl.mit.edu

-- 
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MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratory
ankleand@mtl.mit.edu
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