From: kytan@mantra.fia.dmg.ml.com (Kok-Yong Tan)
Subject: Re: MY: Think Malaysian, not Malay, Chinese, Indian.
Organization: Organised?  Here?  Hahahahahahahaha.....
	<1992Nov6.090401.11873@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:44:34 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.090401.11873@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:

>Have anyone taken away the fruits of your success. The beauty of the Malaysian
>democracy is that it does not burden the non-bumis unnecessarily. They let
>them get rich without even taxing them heavily.
>   After all, if they are rich, the people in power will be rich.

Since you brought it up: The fruits of our success has been taken away from us.
With this 30% bumi ownership law, what used to be companies wholly owned by us
Chinese now have to be 30% Bumi owned.  How would you like it if your family
spent generations building up a company and suddenly have the government state
that unless you have 30% Chinese (instead of Bumi) ownership, you can no longer
do business in Malaysia?  And this 30% who suddenly owns a stake in your
company and has never had to sacrifice anything to help build up the company is
now enjoying the benefits of that company and STILL doing nothing to help the
company?  How do you think we feel when something like that is taken from us?
If the shoe were on the other foot, I bet you'd be very unhappy, to say the
least.  But, of course, since you people benefit, you're going to defend it as a
means of "equalizing economic power."

>Malaysia is fortunate that the misuse of power is only in giving scholarships
>to Malays who hold the political power in Malaysia. It is better to be
>governed by intelligent educated masters than stupid ones.

A tyrant is a tyrant, educated or not.

>   I just hope that UMNO can maintain its intellectual base instead of
>eroding it by admitting "pak turut" as their leaders.
>	   The reality is UMNO is the power base. Rember that anyone who can
>get over 50% votes is the power. Even Clinton do not got 50% votes and yet
>he is the absolute power in USA.
>	   Everyone must obey him. If not, there will be chaos as in other
>nations. Malaysia is still young, we have never DIE for democracy. We never
>have to confront the problems of DEMOCRACY.

He is NOT the "absolute power in the US!!!"  The Senate and Congress can
override his authority if they have a sufficient majority (two-thirds, if I'm
not wrong.)  Even if he wants to declare war, he still has to provide
justification to both Houses.  Remember Nixon?  Well, he was President and look
what happened to him after Watergate.  If he hadn't resigned, he would have
been impeached.  And no one "must obey" the President unless they are in the
military.  If everyone "must obey" the President, then there wouldn't be all
the protests and demonstrations that we see so often (some of which are utterly
legal.)  You don't seem to know what you are talking about with respect to the
US and you keep spouting these completely idiotic half-truths about the US.  Do
your research before you shoot your mouth off and yourself in the foot!!!

>	   With so many dictators and potential mass murderers in Malaysia and
>Singapore, I just pray that we are all right. 

I take that as a veiled insult.  Of course, you are an absolute paragon of
virtue and hypocrisy never enters your mind.  Yeah, right!!!  You seem to think
that we oppress Malays in Singapore and would harm them in any way.  Since you
are in Singapore, you should be able to see that the average Malay (I'm not
even talking about the better-off ones) lives a great deal better than the
average Chinese in Malaysia (and even some of the Malays in Malaysia!!!)  There
are no "Chinese-only" scholarships in Singapore.  Everyone gets where they are
by merit alone, regardless of race: if you've got the smarts, you make it.
Even in the military: we had our first Malay fighter jock some time back.

>	   Remember that Philippines were peaceful for so many years although
>they have no apparent racial tensions.

You obviously have had your head stuck in the sand like an ostrich.  Even when
Marcos was in power, there were Muslim and other rebellions.  Since he had
total control, he could also control the news media!!!  Think what that means
and why so many South-East Asian governments control their news media with an
iron hand!!!

>	   I TELL YOU, if there are no chinese, malay, indian divisions, people
>will find other DIVISIONS. Just to get excuse to be DIFFERENT.

I suppose absolute conformity is to your liking?  Especially if everyone were
to conform to your ideals.  Jeez!  Talk about egocentric!!!

>--
>Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
>Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
>Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
>Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet

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