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From: emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org (Evstathios Marinos)
Subject: HELP: Dump problem with HP 35480A DAT Streamer
Reply-To: emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org
Organization: The little black box game department
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 10:09:05 GMT

Hi,

I've got problems with the DAT Streamer HP 35480A running at NeXT machines when  
working with dump/restore.

Dumping files to the streamer workes fine, but performing a restore from a dump  
produces a strange behaviour. Some times it works fine, the next time I get  
following error:

ST:CMD=0x8 SR_IO_STATUS=2H
Sense Key=0x0
Sense Code=0x0
Tape/Disk Read Error: I/O Error

I tried the streamer with various NeXT machines, Cube's, Mono's, Turbo Color's  
and I always got the same problems with restore. When using tar to write and  
read to the streamer no errors ocured.

Doe's anybody know this problem and how to solve it?

Thank you very much for your help.
-- 
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From: davisj@wimpy.aero.org (john davis)
Subject: Printing Envelopes
Keywords: print, envelope, NeXT printer
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation; El Segundo, CA
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 20:41:28 GMT

I'm trying to print standard size envelopes using my Next printer, but I'm  
having problems with the envelopes only feeding halfway and then stalling.  
Is there a way to print envelopes through the paper try or is the only way  
to do it is by manual feed?  Any suggestions or tips would be welcomed. 

Thanks John C Davis
davisj@wimpy.aero.org (NeXT Mail ok)
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From: u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***)
Subject: Re: NeXT Dimension
Organization: Computer Science & Information Engin., Chiao-Tung U, Taiwan, ROC
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 11:26:06 GMT

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From: yang@blumen.cc.nctu.edu.tw (Tony Guo)
Subject: Re: Mac CD Drives
Organization: /Users/yang/.organization
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:14:07 GMT


Apple CD 150  works with NeXT.(My personal experience)


Tyng-Jing
From: anderson@sapir.cog.jhu.edu (Stephen Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Advice on Seagate Drive
Date: 12 Jan 93 22:07:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dept. of Cognitive Science, The Johns Hopkins University
In-reply-to: jimb@access.digex.com's message of 12 Jan 93 18:13:41 GMT

>>>>> On 12 Jan 93 18:13:41 GMT, jimb@access.digex.com (Jim Brooking) said:

	jimb> Does anyone have anything to say, pro or con, about the
	jimb> Seagate model ST42400N drive?  We're thinking about
	jimb> buying one for external use on a server cube.

I have one of these, which I installed as the internal drive in my
cube. It's big, it's fast, and I've had absolutely no trouble with it
so far (apart from the fact that I installed it first with the
termination resistors in backwards, and had to take it out and reverse
them....). It's not as quiet as the old Maxtor, but it's not at all
disturbingly noisy either.

Two comments, though: (a) you'll probably have to pay extra to get a
5-year warranty on the drive, but ask about it. It's not that
expensive, and 5 years is a long time. (b) TheFormatter didn't
understand the drive, so I wasn't able to format it in 1024 byte
sectors. I corresponded with the authors of TheFormatter, who
suggested that if I could get them a copy of the drive tech manual
they could probably get the program to cope with it. I never pursued
this, but now I kind of wish I had, since I'd get about another 120
Mbytes of space on the drive (plus more speed) that way. Perhaps if a
few people are interested, it would be in someobdy's interest to
figure out how to reformat these drives with bigger sectors.

--Steve Anderson
From: lliou@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Lily Liou )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: micropolis, toshiba, gigabyte drives...
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:58:14 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego


Sorry, I had a typo in the last article with the drive survey.
The Toshiba model is MK-538FB, not MK-5528FB.

-Lily Liou
lliou@sdcc3.ucsd.edu

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From: wade@hobbes.ucsd.edu (Wade Blomgren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: csh redirection fails when run under cron
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:21:15 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes.ucsd.edu

After upgrading to 3.0 I am having a problem with csh scripts run from cron 
with user ids other than root.  The scripts are run, but any redirection
of output from a command WITHIN the script goes to the standard output
of the script, not to the target of the redirection.

For example, the following script (saved in, say, /tmp/script, mode 755):

#! /bin/csh
echo foo > /tmp/bar

run by the following crontab entry:

* * * * * me /tmp/script > /tmp/script.out 2>&1

results in the word "foo" appearing in /tmp/script.out, NOT /tmp/bar.

The same is true for piped output:

cat /etc/hosts | grep localhost > /tmp/bar

will send the entire hosts file to the output of the script, and nothing
goes through the grep or into /tmp/bar.

NOTE: the output files _are created_.  That is to say, in the first
simple example, the file /tmp/bar will exist, but it will be empty.

This behavior does not seem to happen when the cron command is run as
root.  When the script is run from the command line by the user account
it works fine.   Adding additional levels of indirection (script calling
a script) seems to result in all output being lost.

The problem does not occur on a self contained machine in my office but
it does occur on our other machines.  The only significant difference 
between my machine and the failing machines is the failing machines are 
running NIS.  Can anyone else running non-root csh scripts with cron who 
is using NIS (or not) under 3.0 comment?  Am I hallucinating?

Thanks for any input - I will summarize responses.

Wade Blomgren
wade@hobbes.ucsd.edu
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From: waldvoge@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch (Marcel Waldvogel)
Subject: /bin/sh $# bug with nested functions
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:02:59 GMT

Another nasty bug (which prevents me using 'shql' for now):

	#!/bin/sh
	nested_func(){
	        echo "inside: $#"
	}
	func(){
	        echo "before: $#"
	        nested_func 6 7 8
	        echo "after : $#"
	}
	func 1 2 3 4 5

gives the following output (on 2.1 and on 3.0):

	before: 5
	inside: 3
	after : 3

Every other system I've tried returns

	before: 5
	inside: 3
	after : 5

This is in accordance to what I expect from the behaviour of parameter passing.

-Marcel
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: ownership of /bin/df and /etc/mtab
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 06:40:38 GMT

Hi!

Well, maybe it's my fault, but I wonder why the permissions of mtab and df
are not right set, since 3.0:

-rwxr-sr-x  1 root     operator    6692 Jul 21 17:40 /bin/df*
-rw-r-----  1 root     wheel      81 Jan  5 15:44 /etc/mtab

With permissions like that only root and wheel are able to execute df.
(Very bad for news, as rnews needs df.)

The question: Is is my fault and which group is wrong set?

	Frustrated, Gerhard.

(It took me 15 minutes to find my rnews problem... :( )

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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Preview save options strange
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:04:22 GMT

Hi!

I tried to save a text including the fonts out of FrameMaker. It didn't
work, but this did not surprise me. (The files seemed to be normal
postscript, without the fonts.) I opened this ps file with Preview
and it displayed well. Now I tried to save it with the fonts from
preview. But what happened was that all 3 ways to save a file saved a
strange binary with a postscript header. It even failed to preview
these new postscript files. (I had to kill Preview) 

	Is this a bug or a feature?

	Gerhard.

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Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:41:21 EST
From: <HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: PLI Floppy Drive under 3.0 - Help...

I've been using 3.0 on a machine with a PLI floppy drive, the standard
2.8 meg one. It reads DOS disks just fine, but won't write to them....

When I try to write, a message comes up in the Process panel saying
'Invalid Argument' and the task terminates, regardless of whether I press
Proceed or Stop.

What gives? I'll summarize if there are answers.

Rob Harrap
Dept. Geological Sciences
Queen's University
Kingston, Ont.
Canada
Harrapr@qucdn.queensu.ca
From: matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: niload "features"
Date: 8 Jan 93 01:05:41 GMT
Reply-To: matthews@oberon.umd.edu
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD

In NeXTstep 3.0, each user gets an 'info' NetInfo directory added to their
usual /users/<name> directory.  This means you can't just niutil -destroy
<domain> /users/<name> to get rid of the user because NetInfo can't destroy
directories with children.

Well, niload -d passwd is supposed to delete any password entries that are
not in the file you load up.  But it can't because of the info directory.
niload should know how to delete that info directory (what *IS* it used for,
anyway?).  This also adds a step to automatic user deletion (niutil -destroy
<domain> /users/<user>/info, which may not be all that easy depending on how
you do the batch deletes).

Also, didn't niload hosts bind to the IP address before?  Now it seems to
bind to the hostname, so if you dump the hosts to a flat file, change their
name, and reload it, you have two hosts with the same IP address (doesn't
*hurt*, but it is annoying).

At least niload -d now overwrites any existing data, and tries to delete
information not in the new file as opposed to blowing away that directory and
reloading it (as I think it did before, anyone care to verify or disprove
that?).
------
Mike Matthews, matthews@oberon.umd.edu (NeXTmail accepted)
------
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perform the office of a common censor morum over each other.  Is uniformity
attainable?  Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the
introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned;
yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity.
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From: noyau@pelane.cubx.com  (Eric Noyau)
Subject: Re: ownership of /bin/df and /etc/mtab
Reply-To: e_noyau@cubx.com
Organization: Cub'X systemes
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 08:24:45 GMT

In article <C0I2qE.Gn2@ccu.umanitoba.ca> grdetil@scrc.umanitoba.ca (Gilles  
Detillieux) writes:
> In article <1993Jan6.064038.6744@proximus.north.de> gemoe@proximus.north.de  
> (Gerhard Moeller) writes:
> > Well, maybe it's my fault, but I wonder why the permissions of mtab and df
> > are not right set, since 3.0:
> > 
> > -rwxr-sr-x  1 root     operator    6692 Jul 21 17:40 /bin/df*
> > -rw-r-----  1 root     wheel      81 Jan  5 15:44 /etc/mtab
> > 
> > With permissions like that only root and wheel are able to execute df.
> > (Very bad for news, as rnews needs df.)
> > 
> > The question: Is is my fault and which group is wrong set?
> 
> Well, without laying any blame, /etc/mtab usually is world-readable.
> (i.e. mode 664 or 644)
> 
> The owner and group assignments are the same as on my NeXT.
> 

Workspace do "chmod 640 /etc/mtab" sometimes...(when you insert/eject a disk?)

fix : modify your crontab.local and add 
[...]
02,17,32,47 * * * *	root	/bin/chmod 644 /etc/mtab
[...]

It's ugly...

Eric
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From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Re: netinfo/security: lockout disables login_accounting
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:24:27 GMT


Along those lines, there's another problem with this feature.  I added
the secure_passwords property to the security property in / in my
network domain.  The secure_passwords value is supposed to make it
that people must choose good passwords.  It does, but only for
/etc/passwd, not in Preferences.app.  Most of my users use Preferences
to change their password.  So the security option didn't help out
much.  I'd call it a bug. The property should be universal to password
changing, not just command line.

-rob
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francisr@indiana.edu (812)855-0327
From: dimitri@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl (Dimitri Tischenko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: mach IO error -- solved
Keywords: summary
Date: 9 Jan 93 13:41:53 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology

The reason I got this message:

Jan  4 14:14:11 dutiea mach: IO error on pagein: error = 22.      

was the fact that there was no room for the swapfile to grow.

Thanks to Scott Hess, Rob Kedoin and Mike Hovan.

Dimitri
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From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis)
Subject: Re: netinfo/security: lockout disables login_accounting
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:29:22 GMT

In article <C0CDsr.CCD@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis) writes:
>
>Along those lines, there's another problem with this feature.  I added
>the secure_passwords property to the security property in / in my
>network domain.  The secure_passwords value is supposed to make it
>that people must choose good passwords.  It does, but only for
>/etc/passwd, not in Preferences.app.  Most of my users use Preferences

Whoops.  I meant /bin/passwd.  Trying to not cause confusion...

-rob
---
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francisr@indiana.edu (812)855-0327


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From: grdetil@scrc.umanitoba.ca (Gilles Detillieux)
Subject: Re: ownership of /bin/df and /etc/mtab
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:11:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.064038.6744@proximus.north.de> gemoe@proximus.north.de  
(Gerhard Moeller) writes:
> Well, maybe it's my fault, but I wonder why the permissions of mtab and df
> are not right set, since 3.0:
> 
> -rwxr-sr-x  1 root     operator    6692 Jul 21 17:40 /bin/df*
> -rw-r-----  1 root     wheel      81 Jan  5 15:44 /etc/mtab
> 
> With permissions like that only root and wheel are able to execute df.
> (Very bad for news, as rnews needs df.)
> 
> The question: Is is my fault and which group is wrong set?

Well, without laying any blame, /etc/mtab usually is world-readable.
(i.e. mode 664 or 644)

The owner and group assignments are the same as on my NeXT.

--
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Spinal Cord Research Centre             or <grdetil@gilles.scrc.UManitoba.CA>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: NeXTmail and fonts in it...
Organization: Gerhard Moeller, German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:14:36 GMT

Hi,

Another funny thing: (I can't explain it, but it seems to be a bug.)

I use MailHelper to include my .signatures to my mailings with
NeXTmail. (Please add that functionality to the next edition of
NeXTmail, NeXT!) Now I have a .signature.rtf in Courier Medium 10.0
Pt. as I always did. If I include this rtf into a NeXTmail sendwindow,
the space between the lines suddenly is 12pt, though the font itself
is still 10pt. It seems to be that 12pt is the minimum line space I can
use. 

Funny, because:

(a) this was not like this in 2.1
(b) this is not true if I use NeXTmail as root!!!!
(c) this is not true for Edit.

ad (b) The only difference between gemoe and root is that gemoe uses
German and root English in the prefs. Is that the reason? 

	Puzzled, Gerhard
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X  Uni:     Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE      NeXTmail  X
T  Z-Net:   Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer                          encouraged!  T
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kinch@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Dave Kinchlea)
Subject: What does NeXTMail do during `undelete' command?
Reply-To: kinch@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca
Organization: Heart Valve Group, John P. Robarts Research Institiute, London, Ont. Canada
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:00:37 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin

Howdy
	I am having a problem with NeXTMail. My users' directories are
NFS mounted onto a Personal Iris but the /usr/spool/mail is local.
When one of my users issues a `Undelete' command from inside of
NeXTMail, my PI disk fills up AND the load on the PI machine continues to
grow until there is nothing left to do but pull the plug. In trying to
determine what the problem is it seems necessary to determine what
NeXTMail is up to during this `Undelete' operation. Could anyone in
the know please tell me. I assumed that it would simply make a copy of
mbox sans any deleted messages but that simply does not seem to be the
case. 

	I can provide more info to any who want but understanding the
problem isn't necessary in order to explain what NeXTMail is
*supposed* to do with this command.

cheerskinch
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From: CCC_HART@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Hardy)
Subject: NxBrowser (Bug ?)
Organization: University of Ulm, Germany
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:24:37 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

Hello world,

i have a big problem with the NeXT Interface-Builder (and there with
NXBrowser):
When i generate a window in IB and place a NXBrowser in that window the
method _setPath:(const char *)aPath_ didn't work. It returns only self and
nothing happened. All other methods works fine (ex. _loadColumnZero_, after
loading the browser manually (using _loadColumnZero_) even _getPath_).
So what do i wrong ? Is this a (known) bug of NeXTStep 3.0 ?
Any hints welcome.
Please answer by e-mail (ccc_hart@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de) since i didn't read
this group frequently.



Awaiting your replies and thousand thanx 
(sorry for mistakes, but english isn't my native language)




so long...
hardy

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From: jchin@prodigy.bc.ca (Joseph Chin)
Subject: sendmail problem
Reply-To: jchin@prodigy.bc.ca
Organization: Prodigy Technologies Corp.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:20:28 GMT

I've just noticed that since I upgraded to 3.0, I can no longer send email  
to accounts within my domain (prodigy.bc.ca). Is there a bug in the 3.0  
sendmail.cf file? The NeXT is a mail client on the network, and the mail  
host is a Sun Sparc server. Everything worked fine before the 3.0 upgrade.

Any ideas? Thanks.

Joe

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