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From: flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal)
Subject: Re: First Post
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:09:28 GMT

apollo@ee.ualberta.ca (Apollo Wong) writes:
>ObHack: Use Emacs to patch the directory so that filenames with character '&'
>        in it can be moved.

ObFaq: Use the backslash, Luke!
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: apollo@ee.ualberta.ca (Apollo Wong)
Subject: First Post
Reply-To: apollo@ee.ualberta.ca (Apollo Wong)
Organization: University of Alberta Electrical Engineering
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 03:57:34 GMT


My first post. Hope it worked.

ObHack: Use Emacs to patch the directory so that filenames with character '&'
        in it can be moved.
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From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Subject: Re: First Post
Reply-To: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 22:45:11 GMT

In article <2crY03GO5e4p00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy  
McFadden) writes:
=>In article <1992Aug14.090928.2677@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>  
flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) writes:
=>>apollo@ee.ualberta.ca (Apollo Wong) writes:
=>>>ObHack: Use Emacs to patch the directory so that filenames with character  
'&'
=>>>        in it can be moved.
=>>
=>>ObFaq: Use the backslash, Luke!
=>
=>NO NO NO GOD DAMN IT NO!!!
=>
=>PLEASE DO NOT START  ** YET ANOTHER **  HUGE, UNDYING THREAD ON "WHAT IS THE
=>BEST WAY TO REMOVE FILES WITH STRANGE NAMES!"  I'VE SEEN THIS STUPID THREAD
=>SO MANY TIMES I'M READY TO HURL MY GUTS ALL OVER THE UNIX FILE SYSTEM!!
=>
=>YOU CAN USE A BACKSLASH!  YOU CAN USE RM -i * !  YOU CAN RUN FSDB ON THE
=>FILE SYSTEM!  YOU CAN USE EMACS!  YOU CAN USE A C PROGRAM WITH THE "UNLINK"
=>SYSTEM CALL!  YOU CAN WRITE YOUR OWN SHELL!  YOU CAN REAM YOURSELF WITH THE
=>BUSINESS END OF A PLUMBER'S HELPER!  I DON'T CARE!!  JUST DON'T POST IT
=>ANYMORE!!  I CAN'T TAKE IT!!
=>
=>AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGHHH!
=>
=>(hurl)
=>(splash)
=>>yuck!<
=>
=>OKAY, I FEEL BETTER NOW, BUT I'M STILL GOING TO YELL!  GRRRRRRRR!
=>
=>ObHack: writing a program to allow bang-paths to be specified under csh
=>	8-]
=>

Er, why not use the backslash?????  :-)

=>-- 
=>fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden)
=>[ Above opinions are mine, Amdahl has nothing to do with them, etc, etc. ]

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From: j..barrett@madness.network23.com (J. Barrett) 
Newsgroups: alt.education.disabled
Subject: braille output
Date: 17 Aug 92 10:15:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Terminal Madness BBS - Newport, RI - 401-848-9069
Reply-To: j..barrett@madness.network23.com (J. Barrett) 

TO: davros@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Buddy Brannan)
from j.barrett@madness.network23.com

hi buddy,

BB>a computer, and so is more widespread in this country. In Europe, speech is
BB>almost unheard of (or at least was for a while), with Braille being the out-
BB>put mode of choice.
how compatible is the braille people in europe use to the grades
we use here in the states?

BB>Another thing that we may want to look at is this: Braille is portable and
BB>handy, whereas speech is not always.
another method blind users revert to is tape recordings of classes and
later transcribing the notes or listening to them to refresh their
memories.

BB..... Only recently is the importance of Braille being
realized again. Let us not forget this.
my braille teacher told me that a lot of people are now learning
braille compared to years ago when they got by not.



BB>I have been a Braille reader since I was young. I read Braille for
pleasure, and I prefer it to taped books. Reading for me is a
wonderful thing,
.
i find if i don't do my braille first thing in the
morning my brain is fried and i can't concentrate enough to pick up the
words right. also i tend to keep my eyes closed when doing braille and
sometimes i just can't feel the dots and my fingers go numb. are you
able to use more than one finger when reading braille? which grade of
braille do you read most often? i used to get the national geographic in
braille format but i found it wasn't interesting enough to hold my
attention.

 j.

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From: mgflax@bathe.Princeton.EDU (Marshall G. Flax)
Newsgroups: alt.education.disabled
Subject: Re: BRAILLE OUTPUT
Date: 15 Aug 92 20:15:07 GMT
Organization: Princeton University

In article <kkoehn.713249022@sfu.ca> kkoehn@fraser.sfu.ca (Kaari David Koehn) writes:
>merci for the info (no mail yet, though)
>& this slow a pace is just fine.
>I can see how using standard print heads to create embossing could be a
>problem... :)  "let's use it as..a nail driver!"
>
>Still considering a condensed relay grid, for variable display.
>A question: Could advanced voice recognition/output technology
>revolutionize interfaces to the point that this project is no
>longer worthwhile? Anytime soon?
>mind voyaging

The pace is slow here primarily because misc.handicap is where most of
these discussions occur.  The moderator of that group also runs a
wonderful FTP site: handicap.shel.isc-br.com

My SO (blind since birth) would greatly prefer braille output over
speech: you don't need headphones, can read while speaking with people,
see things iin two-dimensional format (tables!), and it's much more
amenable to skimming.
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From: braun@uts.EDU.AU (M Braun)
Subject: 3 Sydney universities offer jointly p/grad course on Uninet
Organisation: University of Technology, Sydney, Australia
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney, Australia
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 09:45:26 GMT
Summary: Teleconferenced p/grad course on medical imaging offered by 3 unis
Keywords: teleconferencing videoconferencing


University of Technology, Sydney, University of Sydney, and Macquarie 
University (all metropolitan campuses) are currently offering a postgraduate 
course on medical imaging techniques.  The course is provided over Uninet,
a teleconferencing fiberoptic link between the Sydney universities.  
What may be unusual about this arrangement is that the lectures are transmitted
from different sites, each university contributing its share to the teaching.
The students are enrolled at the respective universities and attend at their 
own campuses.  Their formal enrolment varies from Master in Medical Physics, 
Master of Electrical Engineering, and Honours students in a number of 
disciplines.  

The format of classes includes lectures, tutorials (there are 
also visits to clinical establishments).  The presentation tools include 
35mm slides, overheads, video, lightbox.  Two campuses are set up so that 
the lecturer controls everything: switching between cameras, zooming & panning, 
focusing, etc.  This is quite a challenge.

The rationale for this arrangement is, in part:
- to make use of the expertise of staff at the different universities 
- to avoid duplication (in the past, there were quite similar courses run by 
  some institutions for a small number of students)
- to enable access to the subject to students whose university could not, 
  in the past, justify running its own course (either because of insufficient
  demand, resources, or both)  
- to provide simultaneously access to this specialised course to 
  small groups of students scattered across campuses
- to evaluate the utility of the conferencing facility for this purpose 

So far, we have been learning how to deal with technical problems, limitations
of the resolution, contrast, audio feedback, and so on.  We are also learning 
how to make eye contact with students in the same physical location, keep an
eye on students at other locations, look at the camera, watch the monitor 
showing the transmitted video signal, switch between cameras, check and adjust 
the quality of the image, ...and, yes, present the lecture.

If anyone has had similar experiences, I would be keen to exchange gripes, 
pick up useful hints, etc.  I would be particularly eager to hear from 
anyone who has participated in, or knows of, a multi-university arrangement
like the one  described here.


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From: jjmorris@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Joyce Morris)
Newsgroups: alt.education.distance
Subject: Internet Address
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:24:57 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Could someone pleas mail me the internet address for this newsgroup.
Thank you
jjmorris@gandalf.rutgers.edu
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From: dubie@tnpubs.enet.dec.com ("I, Dubious: TAY2-2/M7, DTN 227-3709  17-Aug-1992 0852")
Subject: ICDE Update
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 05:54:53 PDT
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Subj:	DEOS update on ICDE World Conference

The following is a response to a request for some updated information about
the 16th ICDE World Conference on Distance Education. See DEOSNEWS Vol 2,
No 7 for more info.
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346 papers have been accepted for presentation and abstracts,with
photos are ready for printing.Papers come from 51 countries

The 4 keynote presentations and the Broady lecture have also been
confirmed.

All papers have been allocated to time slots and rooms and
presenters have been notified.

More than 300 registrations have been confirmed but we fully
expect to get more than 1000,with a limit of 1500 bieing set.

The final notice will be sent out shortly but most potential
perticipants should have received the Second Announcememt which
contained the registration documentation.

For further details people should contact the conference manager,not me!
Her details are:
                        ICDE Conference Manager
                        STOU
                        Pakkred,Nonthaburi 11120
                        Thailand
                Fax: (662)5735890
                Ph:  (662)5730030-3Ext3596

Hope to see many DEOS readers at STOU!!.
Bruce Scriven,Program Chair.

William Dubie
dubie@tnpubs.enet.dec.com
Digital Equipment Corporation,
Littleton, Mass.

Standard disclaimer: These views don't necessarily
reflect those of Digital Equipment Corporation.
From: jpennell@axion.bt.co.uk (John Pennell)
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
Subject: Long distance Radio-phones
Date: 19 Aug 92 09:54:02 GMT
Reply-To: jpennell@axion.bt.co.uk (John Pennell)
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs


Despite being many miles away, I would be interested in any information anyone has
on similar systems being sold in the US or UK.  If anyone has any information on
the availability of long-distance radio-phones, please E-Mail me or post to this 
newsgroup.

Cheers.

Jon Pennell - jpennell@axion.bt.co.uk
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
From: gubin@spectr.slavutich.kiev.ua (U. E. Gubin)
Subject: Help! Interface with drivers (BNU,MNP) 
Reply-To: gubin@spectr.slavutich.kiev.ua
Organization: TEST
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 10:21:25 +0300

We are needed to explanation interface with drivers of COM-port
(BNU,MNP,shared INT 14h)
Possible standard - FOSSIL
Thanks to the hint which explain when we can seek it

EMAIL: gubin@spectr.slavutich.kiev.ua
From: thompson@forsyth.wsnc.org
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Speaking of answering machines
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:49:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Forsyth County, Winston-Salem  NC

In article <1992Aug18.214756.23997@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>, smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead) writes:
> 
>    I have an AT&T 5150 or something like that. When I pick up the handset
> (whether there's a call or not) I hear AM radio. None of my other phones
> have that problem, so I know it's a problem with the unit not being properly
> shielded. Anything I can do about this?
> 
> Muff :)
> -- 
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Stop in your local AT&T Phone Center and pickup a Z100 RFI filter.  They're
about $15, but they stop radio station interference dead.
____________________________________________________________________________
Robert Bruce Thompson                thompson@ledger.forsyth.wsnc.org
Forsyth County MIS Department        (919) 727-2597 x3012
Winston-Salem, North Carolina USA    (919) 727-2020 (FAX)
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
From: reid@pa.dec.com (Brian Reid)
Subject: Re: endless loop consumer tape product
Organization: DEC Network Systems Laboratory
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 03:54:14 GMT


Most CD players have the ability to repeat a CD forever. My $149 Toshiba CD
player can do it with "shuffle play" so that each time it repeats, the songs
play in a different order. Once I let it run for a month to see if it had any
kind of a natural end, and it didn't (I was out of down during that month).

So spend $150 on a cheap CD player and you'll have your infinitely repeating
music.

Back when I used to pay attention to such things, several FM stations in the
Washington DC area used to broadcast continuous background music on a 21KHz
subcarrier. I don't know if this practice still exists, but, if it does and
if there is a station in your area doing it, you could get their continuous
music, probably for a lot less than $150.
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
From: richg@hatch.socal.com (Rich Greenberg)
Subject: Re: high speed paging
Organization: Hatch Usenet and E-mail.  Playa del Rey, CA
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 20:36:48 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.152433.9889@hplb.hpl.hp.com> jlf@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Jean-Louis Fuccellaro) writes:
>Does anyone know how works paging communication ?

>Is the receiver first found and then the message is sent to it => active
>receiver

Very unlikely.  You would need a pager with the complexity of a cellphone.

>or is the message broadcasted to every transmitter and so reach the
>receiver anywhere ?

Thats it.

-- 
                
Rich Greenberg - N6LRT - 310-649-0238 - richg@hatch.socal.com
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Thursday, 13 Aug 1992 22:45:45 EDT
From: Rob Champagne <IO20197@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
Subject: Touch Tone Electronics

I am intersted in using a touch tone telephone's number pad as an array of
input switches for an electronic project that I am designing.  I was told
a long time ago that there is a chip that continuously scan the 3x4 array
for a keypress, determines which key was pressed, and then sends a code out
for other circuitry to see.  I'm hoping for a TTL chip.  Anyone know?  How
about where can I get more info?  A book?
From: rice@ttd.teradyne.com
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: high speed paging
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:49:43 GMT
Organization: Teradyne Inc., Telecommunications Division

In article <1992Aug17.152433.9889@hplb.hpl.hp.com>, jlf@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Jean-Louis Fuccellaro) writes:
> Does anyone know how works paging communication ?
> 
> Is the receiver first found and then the message is sent to it => active
> receiver
> 
> or is the message broadcasted to every transmitter and so reach the
> receiver anywhere ?
> 

Wide Area paging systems, typically broadcast the paging signals over multiple
transmitters, more or less simultaneously. As a rule, paging receivers do not
have the transmit capability to respond to a 'search' signal.

-- 
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(ex paging system tech rep)  |   MY opinion only, no one else's...Especially
                             |   Not my Employer's....
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From: cornpop@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Ender Wiggin)
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
Subject: Answering Machines
Date: 19 Aug 92 09:14:36 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

You voltageshould br 4-50 volts while waiting for a call, and when you pick-up,
it should drop to around 8 volts....  That's normal.

Dan Lieberman
Telecom Specialist
DBL Consulting
cornpop@glia.biostr.washington.edu
(206)364-9088
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
From: davidson@ccrs.emr.ca (David Davidson)
Subject: Help:1947 Sweedish Ericsson LM
Organization: Canada Centre for Remote Sensing, Ottawa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 03:39:43 GMT

I bought a 1947 Ericsson LM phone. I would like to hook it up
but it is missing the green wire (has the other three). Is there
any kind sole out there who can tell me how to hook it up.
Follows is a desciption of the terminals inside.
P.S. I'm an earth scientist, not an electrician.

There are two rows of terminals, offset like two steps on a stair case.
The top row of screw-down terminals is 1,3,5,7,9.
The bottom row is 2,4,6,8,10

There are wires attached to the top of these terminals by screws, and
to the bottom by solder.

The wires attached to the top of the  terminals--------------------------
-
*the dial has three wires:
- term #1=red
- #2=blue
- #3=white

*the handset has three wires:
-#5=red
-#7=black
-#9=yellow

*the line out has three wires:
- #6=red
- #8=black
- #10=yellow

The wires soldered to the bottoms of the terminals------

the Bell, Hook, and "Guts" are strung together into a bundle, which
are attached to the bottoms of the terminals. It would be difficult to
sort them out.

Please accept my thanks in advance.
Regards
David D.
davidson@ccrs.emr.ca
 
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
From: stevemc@eskimo.celestial.com (Steve McCallister)
Subject: endless loop consumer tape product
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 06:14:44 GMT


Our small office has a telephone system with a line input for 
"music on hold".  What we'd like to do is have this dedicated
to a recording -- one minute or so -- of basic information 
about the business (i.e. hours we're open, other phone numbers
for contacting us, etc.)
Offhand, can someone think of an off-the-shelf consumer format
which would allow us to continuously substitute such a message
into the line input.  BTW, I'm not interested in buying your
old 8-track tape machine  |-)
Reply by e-mail...
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Steve McCallister          Rancho McHrab Satire Preserve, Bothell, WA
stevemc@eskimo.celestial.com        Home of "Slug Tales":
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From: jlf@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Jean-Louis Fuccellaro)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:24:33 GMT
Subject: high speed paging
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
Reply-To: jlf@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Jean-Louis Fuccellaro)

Does anyone know how works paging communication ?

Is the receiver first found and then the message is sent to it => active
receiver

or is the message broadcasted to every transmitter and so reach the
receiver anywhere ?

Thanks in advance !!

Jean-Louis Fuccellaro

Post   :  HP Labs                     E-mail: jlf@hplb.hpl.hp.com
          Filton Road                 phone : (44) / (0) 272 228 122 
          Stoke Gifford               
          Bristol BS12 6QZ       
          U.K



Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
From: tvervaek@col.hp.com (Tom Vervaeke)
Subject: Re: Cordless phones and Police Scanners
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:35:26 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

Some of the scanners, such as my handheld Radio Shack (radio schlock)
Pro-34 are easily modified. A friend a I did mine in about 20 minutes
and we are completely helpless with a soldering iron (we had to use one
too).
 
Not only can you restore the full cellular band, there are a whole variety
of other options too. Other bands could be restored by clipping other
diodes. I had no interest in the other bands so did not do so.
 
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
From: jjm@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (james.j.menth)
Subject: Re: output power
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:11:19 GMT

In article <2a6b2999@babyoil.ftp.com> hobbit@babyoil.ftp.com (*Hobbit*) writes:
>   Handheld units are restricted to 0.6W.
>   There are concerns about having too much power next to your head.
>
>Hasn't anybody clued in how ridiculous this is, considering the number of
>5-watt HTs used on a daily basis by security, construction, police/fire, etc?
>
>_H*

While not advocating the idea that 5 watt HT's at 155 or 455Mhz are safe,
the 850Mhz cellular band is definitly more damaging as far as being
absorbed by the tissues (i.e. your brain).  >800Mhz transmitters with
more that .6Watt output typically use a non-radiating antenna extention
to raise the radiating element above the head of a user.  I'm still
not comfortable about use of such equipment for long periods of time.
Many studies, in progress for over 10 years, indicate that the Russian
(sic) standards for continous exposure to non-ionizing radiation,
which are 10 to 100 times lower than ours, may be closer to the truth.
Most of the U.S. standards are related to heating effects when long term
damages to cell structures may occur due to electrical or magnetic
effects at levels far below the heating effect.

Jim Menth - jjm@cbnewsb.cb.att.com

Opinions expressed are personal and do not reflect the oppinions
of any other person or organization.
From: u_banzai@mcl.ucsb.edu (Marc Tamsky)
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Bizarre answering machine behavior
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:46:57 GMT
Organization: Banzai Institute For Strageic Information and Biomedical Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-slip43.ucsd.edu
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In article <Bt8qJA.CCK@hatch.socal.com> Rich Greenberg,
richg@hatch.socal.com writes:
>        connect a .001 creamic disk capacitor from each side of the

if (year==1992 and SI==true)
	then do
		use units when posting information containing capactior values
		end
endif

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Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
From: smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead)
Subject: Speaking of answering machines
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:47:56 GMT

   I have an AT&T 5150 or something like that. When I pick up the handset
(whether there's a call or not) I hear AM radio. None of my other phones
have that problem, so I know it's a problem with the unit not being properly
shielded. Anything I can do about this?

Muff :)
-- 
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$ smills@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu $ That's the way it crumbles... cookie-wise.  $
$ MuffinHed@aol.com           $          -Jack Lemmon, "The Apartment"      $
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