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From: seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore)
Subject: Daoism, Pooh, and Bisexuals 
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:57:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.193134.6454@news.columbia.edu> jsb16@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jennifer S Broekman) writes:
>
>Personally, I found _The Tao of Pooh_ rather self-righteous and anti-science.

Yes you are correct.  But I think that justification may be found in the 
original texts for this Ch. 81 of Laozi and other places.  

>Not that I think that everything science and Scientism have brought the world
>is wonderful, but the book was extremely simplistic, casting 'Science' as the
>ultimate bad guy and equating it with mindless bureaucracy. If you find Taoism

Yeah.  He is pretty biased.  He sort of ignores the benefits of science.
A lot of polemics are involved but I think that there is some validity
hidden in there.

>interesting, read some of the original sources, such as a translation of any
>of the writings attributed to Lao Tsu. Truer to the trandition and better 
>thought out.
>
>-jenneke
>
Listen to her.  The Dao De Jing(Tao Teh Ching) is really awsome but try to
avoid Stephen Mitchell's translation.  He doesn't read Chinese and is not
always sincere to the original text.  Try Zhuangzi(Chuang Tzu) for some more
*cool* Daoist stuff.

Obbi Ref:  Has anyone ever thought of bisexuality in terms of yin-yang?
	Let me explain... What I get from the yin-yang is that nothing
	can exist without its opposite.  (motss and motos attractions)
	Also that things tend to evolve into their opposites.  Also, no
	moral commentary in it.  No yin=good, yang=bad.  Just happy existence.
-- 
Jim Dilmore - seamus@brahms.udel.edu    or    dilmore@che.udel.edu 
   Deconstruct your Gender          Safe sex doesn't mean no sex.          
Give me life, Give me pain,         It just means use your imagination. 
Give me myself again.  Tori Amos.            Billy Bragg 
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: dwells@lonestar.utsa.edu (Darren . Wells)
Subject: Re: sunday morning, 3 AM
Keywords: an interesting time was had by all
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:05:08 GMT

In article <C0n7LF.Hvz@news.udel.edu>
 eowyn@brahms.udel.edu (Zoe Antonia Velonis) writes:
>Well, it's difficult to say without compromising anyone's discretion,
>and as discretion is the better part of valour, and I think I'm
>sufficiently valorous, I should probably keep my mouth shut.
>
>(Squirms with the effort for several seconds)
>
>Well, okay.
>My purity test score went down!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>My lips are sealed, I will reveal nothing.

Yeah, right.  We all know you are just _dying_ to talk about it, or
you wouldn't have given us this teaser.  So let's have some details.
*chuckle*

Or at least the non-identifying information.

Would it help if we begged?

>(You can try and worm it out of me, but you'll all FAIL!!!!!!)
>(evil laugh)

We have ways to make you talk.
*evil snicker*

>Zoe
>
>(smiling broadly in spite of having been up for *way* too long!)

I think my skin is burning from that post-orgasmic glow . . .

Darren
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk (Clive Grace)
Subject: Re: Anyone read Sandman?
Reply-To: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:40:00 +0000


[On the day that I say "okay today *will* be the day I quietly resign 
from soc.bi" *finally* a thread pops up that I'm interested in...]

I really like Delirium, that totally anarchic mixture of wild, crazy, 
steampot bubbling happiness yet an underlying and deep insecurity 
strikes a chord in me. She's pretty and weird and crazy. That's what 
I like in Delirium. 

The latest issue of  Sandman  I have read is "Brief Lives" #6. 

I agree though -- Dream is, however someone I could deeply fall for 
if I ever saw anyone that looked like him in real life...

As for a threesome with Death and Dream or Delirium lookalikes... 
[swoon]

[Looks like I'm staying after all]
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 .OO.     and learn how to write.
 O/\O               Tanais - friend to all furkindred
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From: winsor@teng.ppd.ti.com (js)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Bisexual idenity and community (was Re: A hug request and ...)
Date: 12 Jan 1993 23:31:13 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments
Distribution: world
Reply-To: winsor@teng.ppd.ti.com (js)
NNTP-Posting-Host: geek.teng.ppd.ti.com

In article <C0rE1v.6Lu@news.udel.edu>, seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore) writes:

} Embarassment.  No.  I haven't been embarrassed since I was in a Chinese 
} restaurant and my fag friend was discoursing at length about anal intercourse
} thus clearing the entire restaurant.  
Thanks for the stupid grin.

(I needed it today.)

john
-- 
The opinions expressed in the above do not reflect those of
my employer, or anybody connected with my employer.  Including me.
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore)
Subject: Re: Purity
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 02:41:02 GMT

In article <93001.140156SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
>
>My favourite, if grammatically incorrect, response to 'what are you?'
>questions is 'a people'.  If they stop blinking after 5 seconds or
>don't scream at you for being a wiseass you're probably ok.
>
Or you could try, "North gate, South gate, East gate, West gate"
:)
O just too much zen lately

> [lots of good points deleted]
>
>Changing one's habits of thought to sort-by-label rather than
>to assign-a-bin-and-check-the-contents-list is work, lots of it.
>Most lesbigay people I've met have had to make at least some of
>this change because they're faced with the contents list for
>the bin they're supposed to be in and their self perception, and
>the two don't match at all.
>
I agree.  But isn't it a much saner way to do business?  
To see people as You's and not as Its (bins).  I think that it
really leads to a more fruitful even empowering lifeview.

>It leads to a narrow view of the world and no good poetry known to
>me. (which last is a significant condemnation.)
>
>Graydon
I hear you.  I hear you.

-- 
Jim Dilmore - seamus@brahms.udel.edu    or    dilmore@che.udel.edu 
   Deconstruct your Gender          Safe sex doesn't mean no sex.          
Give me life, Give me pain,         It just means use your imagination. 
Give me myself again.  Tori Amos.            Billy Bragg
From: rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Bi-wariness
Date: 8 Jan 1993 21:18:14 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1993Jan6.213337.1@io.tudelft.nl> vdijk@io.tudelft.nl writes:
->Hi Peggy.  I used to have a firm conviction that any group of people
->(white, black, muslim, chistian, feminist, gay, you name it) has its
->equal share of assholes. 
[...]
->Soc.bi sort of changed my ideas on this.  Being a group where people
->tend to think of things from both sides seems to attract the more
->sensible among us.  

(With apologies to Mike ... )

You may want to be wary of having such an attitude.  It can leave you hurt
when you find that you've been very wrong.  I'm not saying that you _will_
find you are wrong when you say that bisexuals are more sensible, but that
you _might_.  

I used to feel the same way that you do ... that bisexuals are inherently
somehow better, more sensible than others ... I was wrong.  Finding that out
hurt.  Trust me.  There are quite a few bisexual assholes out there (then
again, some consider to me one of them).  Realizing this may be a good thing.

Cynical? Perhaps.  I've become cynical in some ways lately ... It's an
unfortunate side effect of learning that I really _don't_ like emotional
pain, and deciding that if at all possible, I'm not going to let random
strangers hurt me.  

IMHO, and YMMV as always ...

-roy


-- 
Roy S. Rapoport     internet: rsr@soda.berkeley.edu      bitnet: rsrsoda@ucbocf
anonymous mail: wi.5836@n7kbt.rain.com        androphile, gynophile, kerryphile
"What I used to think is me / is just a faded memory." -NIN
"No mayonnaise in Ireland"
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: kay@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Kay Dekker)
Subject: Re: Impossible acts
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:10:24 GMT

In article <EB0802ECE020083D@TUDOBM.TUDELFT.NL> C.G.C.vanDijk@IO.TUDelft.NL writes:
>Kay:
>> In that case, I'm going to do it all over again!
>> HUG! HUG! HUGHUGHUG!  HUG-HUGGETY-HUG-HUG! HIG-HOG-HUG (HUIUS-HUIUS-HUIUS)
>Hah, bet you are all jealous now.

Awww, I didn't mean to make them jealous.  There's plenty of hugs for
them too.  [tosses handfuls of hugs to his adoring fans worldwide]

>Kay:
>> But you've only met me when I was on good behaviour. OK, OK, I wasn't
>> wearing a Suit, unlike 90+% of everybody, but I wasn't as uninhibited
>> as I could have been (f'rinstance, I didn't hurl you gently to the
>> floor in front of everyone and do Wild Wicked Erotic Things, did I?
>
>Shit no, you didn't.  Sigh.  But I was still happy I wasn't the only
>one without suit.

I think it would have been a bit naughty to invite all these wonderful
people to our VR conference and then to distract them from all the
hi-tech goodies by humping, wouldn't it?

There was another cute guy without a suit there, too; he was doing
the engineering on the Cambridge University no-glasses stereo
machinery.  I think his name's Oliver.  Very very cute.

By a strange coincidence I shall be going to visit the Cambridge team
very shortly :)

>Me:
>>:  'the Crisco Kid: pleasant darkhaired bi smart assertive cutie' ?
>Nigel:
>> 		  			    ^^^^^ ^^^
>>>Can we distill it down to this?  :-)}  :-)}  :-)}
>
>Yahahahah :-) :-) haha :-).  Oops.  Sorry about that, blame it on my
>non-native english.  Heh.  (Students around me wonder what is so
>funny about a RealityEngine that it makes you fall of your chair
>laughing.)  I do think you would look remarkable handsome in an Armani suit.

You're reading the news on a Reality Engine?  Oh, my goodness, that
must be the most profligate use of resources I've encountered this
year (or do you have some nifty software on it that auto-animates
the articles, synthesising the posters' voices from small sound
samples, all nicely textured and hilighted with transparency in
real time? :))

I think I'd only look uncomfortable in a suit of any description.
The less I'm wearing, the happier I am; but if I have to wear
clothes, then I'm happiest in my t-shirts and jeans, ripped or not.

>Love & kisses,

I shall take you up on that, you know.

					Kay
-- 
the Crisco Kid: quiet, shy, mono, Armani-suited.  Not.  idx009@uk.ac.cov.cck
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:42:11 EST
From: Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: What's a "partner"? (was Re: treating men as sex toys)
 <1993Jan7.184304.9649@pony.Ingres.COM> <1993Jan8.025608.29819@tcsi.com>

Hmm... Becki, the register I go and look at when I'm trying to figure
out if I'm in love or if my hormones are being unusually clamorous is
labeled 'And loved the Other above all things'.

Is that sorta what you mean?  As opposed to the (perhaps very deep)
love for a friend that doesn't make them your primary emotional
priority?  (after yourself, or pretty much the same as yourself;
ahead of yourself is the way of madness.)

Graydon
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
saundrsg@               "Praise then Darkness and Creation unfinished"
   qucdn.queensu.ca                   - U. K. LeGuin
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: leecr@microsoft.com (Lee Crocker)
Subject: Re: Fantasy question:  Is Tori bi?
Date: 13 Jan 93 02:37:25 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <CZg=Nj+@engin.umich.edu> rowe@engin.umich.edu (Steven Rowe) writes:

> Seems everybody I talk to thinks Tori is some sort of sex goddess
> (and I *do* talk to myself).  But, oddly, all those people are bi.
> What makes Tori so special? Anybody out there find her UNattractive?
> Let's have a show of hands, who secretly wishes that Tori is bi?

Well, just for the record, I'd consider myself 95% straight, and she's
a Goddess to me too.
-- 
Lee Daniel Crocker    | Free minds; free bodies; free trade.
leecr@microsoft.com   | Libertarian Party  1-800-682-1776
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: kay@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Kay Dekker)
Subject: Re: bi badge wanted in UK:advice?
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:11:43 GMT

In article <C0r04C.3u6@dcs.ed.ac.uk> pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Crowley) writes:
>Bifrost sell lots of different kinds of badges: write to Bifrost, PO Box
>117, Norwich NR1 2SU.  Disclaimer:  I sometimes collate Bifrost.

Thanks, Paul.  I really must read to the end of a thread before wittering
uselessly, mustn't I?

				Kay
-- 
the Crisco Kid: quiet, shy, mono, Armani-suited.  Not.  idx009@uk.ac.cov.cck
From: pfieland@citron.sw.stratus.com (Peggy Fieland)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Sigh...
Date: 12 Jan 1993 15:31:10 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: citron.sw.stratus.com

In article <1993Jan12.070750.5809@udel.edu> litterst@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Stephen Litterst) writes:
>Just feeling lonely at 2:00AM and needed someplace to vent to.  I don't
>know what it is that makes me feel so comfortable around this group. 
> (stuff deleted for space)

Yes, it does feel like a very comfortable group.  I'm glad you like us.

>Anywaym I'm gonna stop here before I start relaying the events of the weekend
>and further depressing myself and whoever reads this.  Thanks again... I really
>mean that.  I'll see you all around the net.

Well, if you do want to vent to the rest of us, we're always happy to
listen.

Peggy

Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: miket@hermes.tcs.com (Michael Turner nmscore Assoc.)
Subject: Re: Impossible acts
Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 01:50:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.151759.20290@infodev.cam.ac.uk> SA121@phx.cam.ac.uk writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.232230.4811@nwnexus.WA.COM> elf@halcyon.com (Elf Sternberg) writes:
>>In article <EFAD8BD9A060005E@TUDOBM.TUDELFT.NL>
>>     C.G.C.vanDijk@IO.TUDelft.NL writes:
>>>Do you recognize this feeling of jealousy when watching a cat enjoying
>>>oral sex with itself?
>>
>>   Nope.  After all, we can't be sure the cat is _enjoying_ what it
>>does 
>>
>Quite -- it's always looked like just another part of general cat washing
>to me, and one I'm not at all sure I envy.  But then, cats are fundamentally
>perverse creatures (Why shred an old newspaper when you can use today's,
>which no-one has read yet?  [Mutters darkly])....

Ever been licked by a cat (on any part of your anatomy)?  Ever beat off
with wet sandpaper?  A cat's gotta do what a cat's gotta do, and not
a second longer.
---
Michael Turner
miket@tcs.com
From: sa121@cl.cam.ac.uk (S. Arrowsmith)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: A hug request and a general growl at the world
Date: 5 Jan 93 15:40:17 GMT
Reply-To: SA121@phx.cam.ac.uk
Organization: Glad to be Sad

In article <1993Jan5.020546.26302@news.cs.brandeis.edu> shogan@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore) writes:
>>I noticed that we have a Pooh now.  and a Piglet too.  Very appropriate since
>>I just read The Te of Piglet and may reread the Tao of Pooh.  Amusing books.
>So do you recommend them?  I saw both at the bookstore...they looked 
>interesting...
>
The Tao of Pooh is certainly worth it, the Te of Piglet I can't comment
on.  They're not exactly easy to get hold of over here -- a friend of
mine borrowed The Tao off his father, which is how I know about it.

>>[stuff deleted by mistake <sigh>]...amusing.  I feel like Eeyore to day.
>>But hopefully I will return to my normal old TIgger self.  Tired grin
>>verging on cynicism and resignation (O GOD I NEED HUGS)  I feel _very_ old.  
>I was always fond of Eeyore...but I must admit...Tigger's a wonderful 
>thing...<grin> (So I just bought my 2-yr-old niece the Pooh tape about 
>Tigger for Xmas.  I've been bouncing, flouncing and trouncing ever 
>since.  Now that tune is running through everyone's mind, isn't it...)
>
Someone once told me that, over a computer, I was very much like Eeyore.
She didn't say whether it applied to real life, too.  I have to say, as
someone brought up with A A Milne, rather than Disney, I find what the
latter has done to the characters rather, well, inappropriate....

--
\S
SA121@phx.cam.ac.uk | "Internet is so big, so powerful and pointless that for
        ___         |  some people it is a complete substitue for life."
        \X/         |     -- Andrew Brown, The Independent
From: winsor@teng.ppd.ti.com (js)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: What's a "partner"? (was Re: treating men as sex toys)
Date: 7 Jan 1993 14:54:43 GMT
Organization: TI
Distribution: world
Reply-To: winsor@teng.ppd.ti.com (js)
NNTP-Posting-Host: geek.teng.ppd.ti.com

In article <1ihcqhINN6rm@cuda.add.itg.ti.com>, 
winsor@Not Heresomewhere.out.there (js) writes:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

wups!  I let one fly!
so, you can still tell that I am mucking with
XRn - at least I have gotten it to *compile*
on my system properly.  (source code helps)

I *will* get this thing worked out.
IwillIwillIwill....
jsjohn
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From: bethan@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Bethan Davies)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Bloody Media
Keywords: aaarrgghhh!!!!
Date: 7 Jan 93 13:43:26 GMT
Followup-To: soc.bi
Distribution: soc.bi
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK


<begin rant>

I heard on the News last night that Nureyev had died. I found the way
they reported it immensely 'interesting' (read 'bloody irritating')

1) On the headlines they said 'Rudolf Nureyev is dead'. Not 'has died at
the age of...' or 'has died of....' which is what they usually say. 
That  (spot the linguist) and the fact that it had made the headlines
made me wonder.....

2) It was said that Nureyev may have died of AIDS (he denied it).
Immediately after this it was stated that 'Nureyev was widely known
to have had lovers of both sexes...'
OH Noooooo..... You mean he was one of <whisper> *those*. One of those
<even whisperer> *bisexuals*. Well, of course, he was promiscuous, and
of _course_ he got AIDS, and well, its whats to be expected.
or...
He was one of _those_ (ie gay/bi), and only _they_ get AIDS...

3) If Nureyev did have AIDS (which does seem likely), it is sad that
he felt the need to hide it, even at his death. I'm not about to go
around claiming HIV+ 'pride', but _hell_.... people get terminally
ill from numerous diseases: Cancer, heart disease, ms etc, and some
of these _may_ be attributable to 'lifestyle', but are _they_
ostracised in the way AIDS sufferers are ...?

Why is it that if you die of drug/alcohol abuse (Parker, Dylan Thomas,
Jim Morrison etc) You become romanticised and a 'tortured artist',
yet if you die of more prosaic means (AIDS) you are labelled as some
kind of pervert.....

<end rant>

<sigh>

Yes, I know..... I know. I'm preaching to the converted here, but it had
to be got out of my system...

Oh well. Time to get back to real life I suppose.... <shudder>

no NO! *NO!* Don't make me do it!!!!!!!!


<HUGS> to them as wants 'em.....


                          Bethan
From: pfieland@citron.sw.stratus.com (Peggy Fieland)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: interesting lunch conversation
Date: 12 Jan 1993 22:04:04 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: citron.sw.stratus.com
Keywords: I'm back

In article <1993Jan12.195118.29473@infodev.cam.ac.uk> gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk writes:
>Can you honestly say, hand on heart, that you don't feel differently
>towards men and women?  That you don't speak to them or treat them
>differently, and that you don't have differing expectations of how
>they should behave, or speak, or treat you?
>
>(If so, congratulations!)

No, of course I feel differently about men and women.  It was just
a shorthand..  Basically, I meant that I have feelings of love
and friendship and sexual attraction for both men and women.  I 
didn't know much about love and sex growing up, but I did manage
to figure out that you were SUPPOSED to love and be attracted to
the opposite sex, but there were SOME people who loved and were
attracted to the same sex.  Nobody told me anything about loving
and lusting for both.  Boy, has that taken me a long time to
disentangle.

Hope this is clearer.

Peggy



Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (Piglet)
Subject: Re: Purity
Organization: who, me?
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:03:56 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.031020.181@tcsi.com> miket@hermes.tcs.com (Michael Turner nmscore Assoc.) writes:
>In article <93007.150703SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
>>   Mike, why does disagreeing with you about a very small subset of social
>>   tactics and a (probably larger) subset of rules about appropriate
>>   language use make me obtuse?
>
>The precise sense of "obtuse" that I meant it is:
>
>	Obtuse ... 1 b: difficult to comprehend: not clear or precise
>	in thought or expression (~ language) ... [Webster's Ninth
>	New College Dictionary]
>
>When someone asks "what are you", or, perhaps, "what is your sexual
>orientation", and you answer "a people", with a rather long hidden
>agenda for choosing that answer (an agenda that you finally supplied,
>thank you), it's safe to say that you are being obtuse.

Far from safe...


The question wasn't "what is your sexual orientation", the
question was "what are you".  I think Graydon's answer is quite
reasonable (though I might prefer the more grammatically correct
"a person").

And what is the deal about "a rather long hidden agenda"?  Seems
like Graydon's reasons for answering "a person"--i.e., not wanting
to provide the labeler with ammunition (here, make my mental work
easier for me--give me a bin to stick you in)--is rather obvious
from his answer.  Not at all long, and certainly not hidden.  

Calling it an "agenda" makes me wonder about your own "agenda".
We all have thoughts beyond the words we choose, ideas that we
try to convey.  The word "agenda" conveys sinister implications
about those ideas.


Piglet, miffed
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore)
Subject: Re: Okay...okay...here is an official demuffin...
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 02:16:13 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.172755.24815@news.cs.brandeis.edu> shogan@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>HI!
>
>Oooops, I mean Hi.  I realize that I am doing this when some people 
>are away.  Not on purpose, you understand...just coincidence...really.
>I am kinda shy, though...I thought I would peek in and say that I've
>been lurking since June, or thereabouts, oh yeah, this is also the 
>first time I've read the list down to zero postings!
>
Impressive.  I try to keep current but dammit we like to write alot.
I welcome you with hugs and slurps and friendly licks and pecks.

>Oh, hugs would be welcome...if you are so inclined...
>
>Sue (Banimpire)

Inclined?  Hell it is becoming my livelihood.
Hugs and welcome again.  Hugs:)

-- 
Jim Dilmore - seamus@brahms.udel.edu    or    dilmore@che.udel.edu 
   Deconstruct your Gender          Safe sex doesn't mean no sex.          
Give me life, Give me pain,         It just means use your imagination. 
Give me myself again.  Tori Amos.            Billy Bragg