HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dmichel@afit.af.mil (Douglas T. Michel)
Subject: Re: James Brown is dead
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 17:31:28 GMT

larson_s@apsicc.aps.edu (Shawn Larson) writes:

>Does anybody out there know who does this song?  (it's techno music)

       LA Style


Doug M.
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From: crp@ukc.ac.uk (C.R.Purtill)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Charlatans UK tour cancelled
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:28:52 GMT
Reply-To: crp@ukc.ac.uk (C.R.Purtill)
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

james@raveup.b24a.ingr.com (Teddie James) writes:

>I just found out to my disappointment that the current Charlatans UK
>tour is cancelled.  We called The Masquerade in Atlanta where we had
>tickets, and they gave the bad news.  They also said something about a
>possible breakup.

Anyone know if they're still playing at the Reading Festival?


Cheers,

Cormac.
From: rmm@dinsdale.ipac.caltech.edu (Mike Melnyk)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: new order live
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:52:53 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology

In article <1992Aug20.145539.25060@zooid.guild.org> Greg Clow <ecurrent@zooid.guild.org> writes:
>
>I have a N.O. bootleg from thier LowLife tour, and there are only two 
>sentances spoken during the entire concert...
>
>(1) "This next song is called TWATS LIKE US" 
>                 - said just before THIEVES LIKE US
>
>(2) "OK, here it is, you fuckheads"
>                 - said just before THE PERFECT KISS
>
>I get the feeling that Barney wasn't in the best of moods that evening...
>

Until a few years ago, Barney and Peter Hook were *always* rude to the 
audience, though sometimes they were probably joking around.
For example:

    I have a NO bootleg of a 1984 concert in Amsterdam. After performing
"Decades" and right before launching into "Love Will Tear Us Apart",
Peter says, "If you didn't deserve that, you certainly fucking don't deserve
this."

    At a concert in D.C. about 10 years ago, Barney accidently left a sequencer
running after the song ("Temptation"?) was over. He apologized, then added,
"I'm not sorry...I don't give a shit, actually." 


I've seen New Order three times: Akron, OH (1985), Hollywood (1986), and
Santa Barbara (1989). At Akron they were abusing the audience right and left.
At Santa Barbara they were almost cordial. Guess they're mellowing with age.

Cheers,


-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mike Melnyk                                         rmm@ipac.caltech.edu
Infrared Processing and Analysis Center             
JPL/Caltech
From: Bo Orloff <bo@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:50 PDT
Subject: Re: THE MEAT PUPPETS
Nf-ID: #R:92231.185744U37426@uicvm.uic.edu:2021474725:cdp:1626800027:000:682
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!bo    Aug 21 18:50:00 1992


U37426@uicvm.uic.edu writes:

> Does anybody out there know anything about what the Meat
> Puppets are up to. New album? New tour? Does anybody out
> there even know who they are?? If any one knows anything
> please e mail me direct. Any information will be most
> welcome. Thanks.

The Pups are currently at home in Tempe working on new material,
getting ready to record a new album in the fall. They'll be in
New York for some live shows in September (99/15 at Maxwell's in 
Hoboken &and 9/16&17 at the Knitting Factory in NYC), but other
than that they don't have any touring planned till after they 
record the next album. 

Bo Orloff / The Hornblow Group USA Inc.
(bo@igc.org)

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,alt.config
From: laural@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (laura.l.la gassa)
Subject: Re: Ravers don't want techno newsgroup
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:57:31 GMT

In article <16848DDE2.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu> techno@music.not.rave.please writes:
>A.m.techno would cater to lovers of all things techno - primarily
>the music which has been produced for roughly 17 years now. It would not
>exclude party talk, but would not encourage it particularly.

So how does this differ from alt.rave?  I actually see more postings that
review compilations and remixes and discuss new techno tunes than I do
flyers or rave questions.  And flyers don't generate discussion, so it's easy
enough to hit 'n' and not read them. In the US there are 3 (soon to be 4) 
regional mailing lists that handle most of the flyer / "were you there" sort of
traffic, which is why I probably don't see much of that on alt.rave.  And
every time someone in my region posts one of those "i wanna be a raver" posts
I send them the address of the list I'm on so they can get the information
appropriate to their area rather than mucking up alt.rave even more.

Think of RAVE as standing for "Rarely Acoustic Very Electronic" if you hate
the "party" connotations so much.  It's just a silly variable name, for
god's sake.

>The projected audience would be anyone who likes to listen to, make, buy,
>play, or even dance and party to techno music.

Gee, sounds like 100% of the population of alt.rave, and most of the population
of rec.music.industrial, and a large part of the posting population of
rec.music.misc.  I haven't figured out alt.music.alternative yet . . . I
feel like I'm stuck on a hip college campus when I read it . . . (joke, okay,
for the sarcasm impaired).

I have a sneaking suspicion that if for some bizzare reason alt.techno really
does come into existance it will be aliased to alt.rave since they're really
the same thing.

Laura
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: wilbanks@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Dylan Wilbanks)
Subject: Re: Seattle down our throats?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 19:48:10 GMT

chappy@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Doug R. Chapman) writes:

>cradle@wam.umd.edu (Dave Eisner) writes:

>>    This is all conjecture, you understand.  I don't really believe it.  Most
>>likely I have my timing wrong.  Maybe "Singles" was started long after 
>>Seattle became popular, and I just didn't realize it.

>The Seattle music scene has been around for quite a few years.  The rest of the
>world is just now starting to notice it.  Bands like Mudhoney and Mother love
>Bone have been around for a few years now.

Cameron Crowe was working on the movie in Seattle before the "Seattle thing" 
got big. In fact, Pearl Jam thanks him for appearing in the movie - the album
was released very late in 1991, just before the press got hold of Seattle.

>>    Any thoughts about this, though?  Perhaps the conspiracy theorists among
>>you will like the idea.  

THE ILLUMINATI ARE BEHIND IT!!!! 
(a joke for all you _Illuminatus Trilogy_ and KLF fans out there.)


>>						--Dave Eisner
>>						  cradle@wam.umd.edu

>-- 
>Doug Chapman
>KSDB 91.9 Manhattan, KS.


-- 
Dylan Wilbanks, Classics major, AND NOW Environmental Conservation!
"Look! An X-man movie's coming out!"          |Currently at:
c.10 year old in a Tulsa movie theater,       |Box 1143
looking at a poster for _Malcolm X_           |Boulder, CO 80306
From: jtgorman@cs.arizona.edu (J. Taggart Gorman)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: INDIE NET - Debate
Date: 22 Aug 92 23:25:58 GMT
Reply-To: jtgorman@cs.arizona.edu (J. Taggart Gorman)
Organization: Organization?  We don't need no steenking organization!
Discliamer: Upon my being captured or killed, my professors will
            disavow any knowledge of me, my statements, and/or
            my mission.


In article <1992Aug21.210014.2981@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>,
Citizen wilbanks@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Dylan Wilbanks) writes :
>OK, This post is to generate debate over a spin-off group from a.m.a 
>(alt.music.alternative, not the American Medical Association). The 
>hope is that we can get this issue settled, once and for all, whether
>it ends with a new group or not.
>
>Questions:
>4. Finally, What name should it be given? alt.music.alternative.indie, 
>alt.music.indie, rec.music.independant, etc.?

  How about

alt.music.major.labels.are.evil.evil.evil
alt.music.no.cure.discussion.allowed
alt.wesley.crusher.die.die.die

  Oops, that last one is already taken...

  :) for the humor impared

|--------------------------------|    "If you were happy all of your life,
|      J. Taggart Gorman Jr.     |     you wouldn't be human - you'd be a
| jtgorman@caslon.cs.arizona.edu |     game show host."
|--------------------------------|             Winona Ryder, in _Heathers_
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.industrial,alt.gothic
From: straffin@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Ethan Douglas Straffin)
Subject: Re: Machines of Loving Grace / Trent Reznor
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:05:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.193701.3025@src.honeywell.com> schmidt@iasdv1.iasd.honeywell.com writes:
>In article <1992Aug11.231413.15301@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, straffin@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Ethan Douglas Straffin) writes:

>>A new MOLG album?  I haven't seen or heard anything about this...details
>>please!  (At the very least, what's the title, or are they just using
>>"Machines of Loving Grace" for the third time?)
>                                    ^^^^^
>
>Third time??  I have the supposedly their first, which includes both the
>singles released: _Rite of Shiva_ and _...Jackies Funeral_, of which BTW,
>ONLY the single of _Jackies Funeral_ was mixed by Sir Reznor.  He is not
>mentioned on the album, from what I've seen and read.
>
>The singles are, IMHO, better than the album with TR on the mix of _JF_ and
>an excellent B-side _All I Really Need_ on the _Rite of Shiva_ single.
>
>Peace...                                                               Kreg

   Well, it's actually a technicality, one which I didn't notice until
somebody pointed it out.  The _Rite of Shiva_ single doesn't actually
show that title anywhere except on the track list -- not on the spine,
cover, or CD.  Since this is rather uncommon, I think the single's
official title might just be _MOLG_.  But who knows?

   Agreed about _All I Really Need_...a wicked little song, and a great
way to annoy the neighbors.  ;-)  Kinda reminiscent of NIN's _Get Down Make
Love_ in that it's a bit, um, harsher than the album material.  However,
iMho, Trent's take on _JF_ is rather disappointing and inferior.  I wish
he'd stick to his own material...and soon...

Ethan
From: kkawado@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Kevin Y. Kawado)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Morrissey vs. Smiths
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:52:19 GMT
Reply-To: kkawado@ics.uci.edu (Kevin Y. Kawado)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.

In article <19920821103407IZZYKL6@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU> IZZYKL6@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Hagop Janoyan) writes:
>
>Many Smiths fans will buy a new album even if all it has is a new cover.
>In any case, supposedly there are two Smiths songs that were recorded
>but never released, so maybe these will show up in the Greatest Hits
>albums to make us buy it for one song.

Actually, there are at least four songs that weren't released on albums:
Jeane, Wonderful Woman, Work is a Four Letter Word and I Keep Mine
Hidden.  These are b-sides of some singles that never got to albums.
Jeane and Wonderful Woman can be found on the new "This Charming Man"
re-release.  Work is a four letter word is a cover, but I don't remember
who originally did it, and I keep mine hiden, were both on one of the
last singles the Smiths released, "Stop Me if you think you've heard this
one before".

=K=
Kevin Kawado
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: Greg Clow <ecurrent@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: new order live
X-To: ANNEMARIE SUCCOP
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:54:00 GMT

asuccop@milton.u.washington.edu (Annemarie Succop) writes:

AS>
AS>	i was listening to my (commercially bought) new order bbc live
AS>	tape, & b/w 'bizarre love triangle' and 'perfect kiss', one of
AS>	the boys (barney?) says something like 'thank you... have you
AS>	noticed all of our songs end in a big way?  loud noises...
AS>	small dicks' & then goes into the next song.

I have a N.O. bootleg from thier LowLife tour, and there are only two 
sentances spoken during the entire concert...

(1) "This next song is called TWATS LIKE US" 
                 - said just before THIEVES LIKE US

(2) "OK, here it is, you fuckheads"
                 - said just before THE PERFECT KISS

I get the feeling that Barney wasn't in the best of moods that evening...


Greg
ecurrent@zooid.guild.org
sizone!ecurrent@ee.ryerson.ca


--- WinQwk 2.0 #0
From: joshuali@usc.edu (Joshua Ling)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: U2 sales
Date: 12 Aug 1992 09:52:52 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

I was just wondering how U2 tickets were sold in other parts of the US outside
of LA for the 1st ZOO TV tour.  In LA it was done by phone *only*. Just
wondering  because they haven't announced the stadium tour yet in LA and 
wanted to know how tickets would be sold this time.

-- 
Josh Ling   
Trilogist Extrodinaire     
joshuali@usc.edu
From: young@ursa.UUCP (Eric Youngblood)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Has anyone heard of DRIZZLE?
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:01:48 GMT
Organization: wouldn't you like to know...
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Has anyone heard of a band named Drizzle?
I saw them at CBGB opening for Julianna Hatfield
and the Lemonheads, but have not been able to find
out anything about them..

Thanks,
Eric

Xref: sparky alt.music.alternative:9379 alt.config:5260 alt.rave:2477
From: c9111456@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (Fight War not wars)
Subject: Re: Bad Religion - personnel
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 05:56:54 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.141405.5213@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Nathan.H.Saunders@dartmouth.edu (Nathan H. Saunders) writes:
> In article <713837332snx@nexnix.demon.co.uk>
> gary@nexnix.demon.co.uk (Gary Howland) writes:
> 
>> Can anyone tell me if there any other Bad Religion albums apart from
>> the following:
>> 
>> 	Suffer
>> 	No Control
>> 	Against the Grain
>> 	Generator
>> 	80-85
> How Could Hell be Any Worse?
> 
> This is an early album, but I'm not sure how early.  Somewhere around
> _Suffer_.


 It was before suffer and I think heeps of the songs off it are on the 80-85
album.

James.


PS I really really wish B.R would tour Australia but some how I don't think
that is very likely.

oh well.


Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
From: james@raveup.b24a.ingr.com (Teddie James)
Subject: Re: Feelies info ===>> Read it!
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:34:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.202503.18171@ryn.mro4.dec.com>, zappia@usops.enet.dec.com (Jim Zappia) writes:
|> 
|> >Anybody have any more Feelies news?
|> > >                         --------------------------
|> 
|> 	Other than the band Speed the Plough being produced by a member
|> 	of the Feelies I can't add anything at this time.
|> 
|> 	- Jim

Yes, Bill Million produced the first Speed the Plough album.  He also
played percussion and E-bow guitar.  He also produced the second album
and played guitar.  Also, Brenda Sauter played bass and sang, and Stan
Demeski played drums and percussion.  Both are excellent folk albums. 
Don't buy them expecting to hear the Feelies sound.

Check out Yung Wu.  This is basically the Feelies but with Dave Weckman
on vocals.  I guess they wanted to give their percussionist a chance to
sing.

I've put together a Feelies discography that I can post if anyone is
interested.


			        TEDDIE JAMES
			   Intergraph Corporation
			       Huntsville, AL
			        205-730-8065
			 james@raveup.b24a.ingr.com
			uunet!ingr!b24a!raveup!james
			____________________________
                         --------------------------
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From: chris@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Christian Bartholdsson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Killing Joke sues Nirvana
Date: 19 Aug 92 11:53:44 GMT
Organization: INRIA Sophia Antipolis, France

In article <1992Aug18.200229.26227@zooid.guild.org>, Greg Clow <ecurrent@zooid.guild.org> writes:
> Oh yeah!  The first time I heard 'Come as You Are', I immediately thought
> "Holy SHIT, that bassline is a TOTAL burn of 'Eighties'" (slowed down to about
> half-speed, of course).  But I find the idea that KJ would sue Nirvana kinda
> ridiculous.  Unless Jaz Coleman is behind it... he's probably jealous that the
> rest of KJ are doing moderately well after the break-up, and decided that he
> needs to get his name in the news somehow.  Heh.

Last week on MTV News they reported that Killing Joke (incl. Youth and Jaz)
had started recording a new album.  It will be a indie-dance cross-over
type of thing.

- chris@kuling.docs.uu.se
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How you satisfy me
From: lynn@ft1.ucsd.edu (Lynn Gottesman)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: live version "the forest" (was cure thread)
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:09:16 GMT

Many of you mentioned that the live version of "the forest" is among your  
favorite cure songs.  I just wanted to point out another awesome live version  
of "the forest" on the concert video "cure in orange".  I think it is better  
than the recording on the concert album ("the forest" is my favorite cure  
song).  I used the audio out on my VCR to make a audio tape of sound part of  
the video.  The sound quality of the tape is fair, but the music is GREAT.  It  
is my favorite cure recording.  There are also great versions of "push","100  
years", "faith" (totally awesome) and "10:15 saturday night", on the video,  
just to name a few.   Just thought I'd pass this on to the other "forest" and  
cure enthusiasts out there.

Lynn
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: djg@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Dirk Gomez)
Subject: Re: Bad Religion
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 07:32:54 GMT

arsenic@cs.montana.edu (Michael Hurd) writes:

>_How_Could_Hell_Be_Any_Worse?  was probably released about five
>years before 
>_Suffer_. The band broke up for a while after/during doing an album
>called _Into_The_Unknown_.  An album even they seem to deny 
>making, but a great album nonetheless.
>
>One Greg Hetson (ex - Circle Jerks) but don't hold that
>against him, is playing guitar for BR.  And as he was not
>one of the musicians on _Into_The_Unknown_ decided not
>to put any songs from that album on _80-85_.  Fuckin' whine...

Nono... The bands hates this record so much that they decided to put it not on
this 80-85 collection.
Beside the fact that it was Brett/Graffin project, it is even not typical BR 
music!

>As far as B.R. playing in Australia, it seems improbable... as
>Greg Graffin (the guy who sings) is teaching paleontolgy at
>Cornell University here in the States.

Why not?! They had a very strange tour plan this year. Now that they are very
known they could afford an Australia tour...

I guess...
From: cjones@eng.umd.edu (Christopher T. Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: A Band Called Firehouse
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:55:07 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Originator: cjones@apache.eng.umd.edu


Yo;

	Does anyone out there have the scoop on Firehouse?  I know that they're
mentioned in a Red Hot Chili Peppers song (Good Time Boys, I think), and some cats
I keep in touch with dig 'em, but I'm clueless on what type of music they play.  Are
they funk and roll (at the risk of classifying bands, which I try to avoid like the
plague) or what?  I'm thanking you in advance!


XOXOXOX


Jonesy
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 00:49:28 -0400 
From: Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Talking Heads news!!

I just heard on the radio--the local classic rock station no less!--that
despite the fact that the Heads said they were through, they will be
releasing a new album in the Fall!!

.....same as it ever was......

--Vernon.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: asuccop@milton.u.washington.edu (Annemarie Succop)
Subject: new order live
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 03:22:25 GMT


	i was listening to my (commercially bought) new order bbc live
	tape, & b/w 'bizarre love triangle' and 'perfect kiss', one of
	the boys (barney?) says something like 'thank you... have you
	noticed all of our songs end in a big way?  loud noises...
	small dicks' & then goes into the next song.

	i had never really listened to the tape carefully enough
	to notice this before, & was amused.

	annemarie
	asuccop@u.washington.edu

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: tabn3@isuvax.iastate.edu (Griffy)
Subject: Re: cure thread
Reply-To: tabn3@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 07:39:26 GMT

In article <9223115.854@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, simondun@ecr.mu.oz.au (Simon DUNSTALL) writes:
>In article <9223115.27314@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, simondun@ecr.mu.oz.au (Simon DUNSTALL) writes:
>> Okay,
>> 
>He writes that because he's working in unix, he hates it, and it keeps 
>stuffing him around, and so the file that was supposed to go on the end
>didn't...
>
>Best: Play For Today, How Beautiful You Are
>      One Hundred Years, "all of disintegration"
>
>Worst: Trust, A Thousand Hours, Dressing Up
>       "half of wish"

Well, let's see...

Best:   Just Like Heaven, A Forest (esp. the Tree Mix), Primary, all of The Head
        On the Door

Worst:  most of Pornography, The Snakepit, If Only Tonight We Could Sleep

>So there.
>anyway, this thread'd be better in babble really 
>(the mailing list)
>it's at : babble@ecst.csuchico.edu

  That should be:  babble@cindy.ecst.csuchico.edu

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