From: emery@tc.fluke.COM (John Emery)
Subject: Re: Proof: God wrote the Bible
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:52:24 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.055348.2124@s1.gov> lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes:
>In article <1992Oct5.193913.1366@unislc.uucp> erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp) writes:
>>Arnold E. Nordeng (nordenga@tc.fluke.COM) wrote:
>>
>>: An omission or addition is *not* a contradiction.
>
>	An addition can contradict something already present.
>
>   The fact that
>>: we have three separate accounts that share the main details made
>>: by three authors at three different times gives veracity.  More so the
>>: fact that we have 40 authors over 1500 years on 3 continents that say
>>: one message that man is sinful and needs a savior adds veracity.
>
>	The OT does not claim that were are all miserable sinners in
>desperate need of salvations. Ask your Jewish friends about that :-)

For reference, I would like to share a few verses from the OT that will
help clarify this issue:

Proverbs 20:9 Who can say, "I have kept my heart pure; I am without sin"?

Ecclesiastes 7:20 There is not a righteous man on earth who does what is
right and never sins.

Jeremiah 3:25 Let us lie down in our shame, and let our disgrace cover
us.  We have sinned against the LORD our God, both we and our fathers;
from our youth till this day we have not obeyed the LORD our God."

These are just a few.  Even the slightest glance through the Prophets
shows the overwhelming need of salvation and forgiveness.  King David,
one of the most righteous men in the OT cries out:
Psalm 51:3 For I know my transgressions, and my sin is always before
me.

This Messiah that was to come would be associated with salvation and 
the cleansing of sin:

Jeremiah 23:5-6 "The days are coming," declares the LORD, "when I will
raise up to David a righteous Branch, a King who will reign wisely and
do what is just and right in the land.  In his days Judah will be saved
Israel will live in safety.  This is the name by which he will be called:
the LORD Our Righteousness."
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Daniel 9:24-25  Seventy 'sevens' are decreed for your people and your holy
city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wicked-
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
ness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and
^^^^     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
prophecy and to anoint the most holy.  Know and understand this: From the
issuing of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed
One [Messiah], the ruler comes, there will be seven 'sevens' and sixty
two 'sevens'.

Isaiah 53:4-6 Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows,
yet we considered him stricken of God, smitten by him, and afflicted.
But he was pierced for our transgressions, and he was crushed for our
iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by
his wound we are healed.  We all, like sheep have gone astray, each of
us to has turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity
of us all.

Zechariah 3:8-9 "Listen, O high priest Joshua and your associates seated
before you, who are symbollic of things to come: I am going to bring my
				                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
servant the Branch.  See, the stone I have set in fron of Joshua!  There
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
are seven eyes on that one stone, and I will engrave an inscription on
it," Says the LORD Almighty, "and I will remove the sin of this land in
a single day."                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^

Zechariah 9:9 "Rejoice greatly, O Daughter of Zion!  Shout, Daughter
of Jerusalem!  See, your king comes to you, righteous and having salvation,
                                            ^^^^^^^^^            ^^^^^^^^^
gentle and riding on the foal of a donkey."


Therefore, it is easy seen that the coming of this Messiah, Anointed One,
Branch or whatever name by which he is called, would be accompanied with
the coming of righteousness, cleansing from sin, and salvation.

Jeremiah calls him deity when he says he will be called the LORD Our
Righteousness.  Zechariah says of his coming that it will be accompanied
by the removal of sin in a single day.  When Jesus died on the cross,
His death in one day provided salvation and cleansing of sin for the 
whole world.  Isaiah says he bore our iniquities, our punishment was laid
upon him.  Daniel associates him with the coming of everlasting righteousness,
the atoning for wickedness, the putting an end to sin, etc.

With this Scriptural information from the OT, I hope that it has become
apparent that the OT does declare man to be lost in sin and that the
coming of the Messiah would bring righteousness and salvation.

>/Loren

God bless,
-- 
John Emery		"You say we've risen to a new age of light.
emery@tc.fluke.COM       You're telling me what used to be wrong
			 is now right."
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