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From: btowle@ecst.csuchico.edu (Brendon Blaire Towle)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: I want to find ...
Date: 13 Oct 92 03:53:51 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
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I would like to find a short story by Heinlein called, "And He Built A
Crooked House," concerning a man who builds his house in the shape of
a unfolded hypercube, only to have it fold up on him.

Also, Book 4 in the "War with the Chtorr" series by David Gerrold has
been overdue for 2 1/2 years.  Does anyone know what happened?
(Books 1-3 are excellent and highly recommended if you like sf with a
message)
"A Matter for Men"  "A Day for Damnation"  "A Rage for Revenge"

Replies by e-mail would be greatly appreciated:
btowle@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

Thanks-

Brendon
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From: adrian@cs.hw.ac.uk (Adrian Hurt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for a Short Story
Date: 12 Oct 92 13:14:02 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computing & Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <JOHN.92Oct7125315@sekrit.WPI.EDU> john@sekrit.WPI.EDU (John Stoffel) writes:
>
>PLOT: Young Kid on mars who lives in the ruins of the previous martian
>civilization.  Somehow gets into something and ends up in a spaceship.
>The ship is round, has guns (??) at the four corners, and is pretty
>neat.
> ...
>I forget how it ends...

The kid is captured by the aliens, but escapes by telling them to go and
find the guns in the corners of their round ship.  The aliens get totally
confused.

:-)

-- 
 "Keyboard?  How quaint!" - M. Scott

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From: rknowles@garnet.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Re: Help with an author...
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:15:26 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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In article <Bw2LGz.69J@acsu.buffalo.edu> cri@acsu.buffalo.edu (Mr. PlEaSanT) writes:
>A few years ago a book came out entitled, I believe "Downtown",
>involving  something along the lines of a multi-dimensional 
>New York City.

The authors are Viido Polikarpus and Tappan King.  It was published by 
Arbor House in 1985 and by Tor (paperback) in 1987.
From: Art_Beyersdorfer@edtng.Kenosha.WI.US (Art Beyersdorfer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Re: Charles Harness Request & Book List Request
Distribution: world
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:02:40 CST
Organization: Electric Dreams: The Next Generation BBS

In a message dated Thu  8 Oct 92  4:51, C9005189@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (o
wrote:



 C>       ATTENTION - INFO WANTED!!!!!
 C>       -----------------------------

 C> Hi there folks!!!!

 C> Michael Moorcock's   (Elric series. A highly enjoyable series. Does
 C> anyone know
 C>         when the "Cornelius Chronicles" is coming back into
 C>         print? I have been trying to grab a hold of this series
 C>         for a while now. I haven't checked lately if it's back
 C>         on the bookstand, but I can't imagine as to why it would
 C>                     go at of print. I thought that this series was one
 C> of
 C>         Moorcock's most successful series, apart from Elric.)

I just saw Cornelius Chronicles for sale at B. Dalton.  There are LOTS of
books in the eternal warrior series, in fact, almost everything Moorcock
writes fit's into the eternal timeline.  I don't know how many I've
actually read, but I gave up long ago trying to collect them all.  I have
read all of Cornelius (originally six books, if memory serves, later
released as two books).  Among others, you might look for some of the
Hawkmoon stories.  Wish I had a better list of what other characters he
writes, but it has been too long since the last one.


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From: J_CAUSEY@ccnode.colorado.EDU (Jim Causey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Re: SF-LOVERS Digest   V17 #538
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:00:30 GMT


	Another excellent series of fantasy with a magical bent is the
"Riftwar" series by Raymond Feist.  The later books get more and more
militaristic, but they all have some pretty intense magic.
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From: leifmk@Lise.Unit.NO (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y)
Subject: Re: Agnostics and Athiests
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 17:54:03 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.041506.21442@netcom.com>, dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
 > >IF THIS DOESN'T STOP, IM GOING TO START THE WORST CASCADE EVER.
 > 
 > No, don't.  It's not a good idea.  Besides, folks on the net are far
 > to intelligent and sophisticated to get sucked into such a thing.
 > 
 > -----
 > Dani Zweig
 > dani@netcom.com
 > 
 >    God helpe the man so wrapt in Errours endless traine  -- Edmund Spenser

* BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *

No, we're not.

Leif Kjnny
leifmk@lise.unit.no
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From: parmentier@iowasp.physics.uiowa.edu
Subject: Re: What's Brian Daley up to!
Organization: Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Iowa
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 18:19:02 GMT

In article <1992Oct09.213604.4218@CS.ORST.EDU>, tannerr@CS.ORST.EDU (Ryan Tanner) writes:
> Anybody know what this author is up to?  I've been expecting another
> book out (last one I know of is _Fall of the White Ship Avatar_) for
> years!

	From what I've heard, he's half of 'Jack McKinney'.

-- 
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Date: Fri,  9 Oct 1992 12:34:41 -0400 
From: "Andrew C. Plotkin" <ap1i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Whats the title/Author of this story
	<718627878snx@warren.demon.co.uk>

Excerpts from netnews.rec.arts.sf.misc: 9-Oct-92 Re: Whats the
title/Author .. Nick Leverton@warren.dem (1270)

> Yet another couple of SF books with a little railway content are from
> Michael Coney's "Song of Earth" series: "The Celestial Steam Locomotive"
> and "Cat Karina".

_The Celestial Steam Locomotive_ is the first part of a two-volume
story; the second is called _Gods of the Greataway_. 

Many of Coney's other books share that universe:  _Cat Karina_, _Fang
the Gnome_, _King of the Sceptred Isle_, probably others. I believe only
_CK_, _tCSL_, and _GotG_ deal with railways in particular.

These are, IMHO, very good and generally overlooked, especially the
_tCSL_ / _GotG_ set. A science-fiction myth cycle, in the true sense of
both "SF" and "myth".

--Z

"And Aholibamah bare Jeush, and Jaalam, and Korah: these were the borogoves..."
From: kassover@rumsey.crd.ge.com (David Kassover)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Re: Agnostics and Athiests
Date: 10 Oct 92 01:42:24 GMT
Organization: Shirley, you jest

In article <Oct07.033126.61590@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> schwarte@CS.ColoState.EDU (eric schwartz) writes:
>In article <disaacs.717960966@cunews> disaacs@thuma.carleton.ca (Dave Isaacs) writes:
>>In <1992Sep30.094023.20888@pro-magic.oau.org> gatech!pro-magic.oau.org!mikeu (Mike Ungerman) writes:
>>
>>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IF THIS DOESN'T STOP, IM GOING TO START THE WORST CASCADE EVER.
>>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>WHILE EATING THIS SLOP, I SEWED THE FIRST BROCADE BEAVER.
>>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BILE FITTING RIG STOP, LIE SPEWED THIRST LIVER !!!!
>>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>IF YOU MUST CONTRIBUTE, AT LEAST DELIVER...
>>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>WHO MAY I ATTRIBUTE TO THIS BEASTLY SLIVER?
>>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>TO SPAY A LUTE IN A GREASY RIVER
>>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>DAMN CASCADERS THINK YOU'RE SO CLEVER
>>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>I WILL NOT CASCADE; NOPE, NO, NEVER
>>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>WOULD YOU, COULD YOU, ON A TRAIN?
>>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>WOULD YOU, COULD YOU, IN THE RAIN?
>>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>R2-D2 ON THE BRAIN?
>>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>This cascade is damn insane!
>>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>And it's really getting lame!
>>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>POST IN CAPS YOU WEIRDOS, WHAT ARE YOU DEAF ? !!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>YOUVE RUINED MY RIGHT EAR, HOW 'BOUT THE LEFT?
>>>>> |> > >>>> > >>LEFT AT THE NEXT LIGHTS, UNLESS RED
>>>>> |> > >>>> > >THIS SILLY THING IS SOMETHING I DREAD, 
>>>>> |> > >>>> > >BETTER I SHOULD BE BUSY IN BED !
>>>>> |> > >>>> > WANKER, GIVE THY HAND A REST!
>>>>> |> > >>>> NAH! THIS AIN'T REC.HUMOR AT ITS BEST.
>>>>> |> > >>>SURELY YOU JEST?
>>>>> |> > >>THIS IS A TEST.
>>>>> |> > >SO BE OUR GUEST.
>>>>> |> > TESTING, TESTING, ONE TWO THREE.
>>>>> |> RETURN OF THE MONSTER CASCADE, HEE HEE HEE! 
>>>>> IF WISHES WERE HORSES THEN WHAT WOULD WE BE?
>>>>THE ANSWER MUST BE IN UPPER CASE SO THAT ALL CAN SEE.
>>>AT LEAST THIS HAS GOTTEN HERE SO THE NEXT ONE CAN BE ME!
>>THE BEAST HAS FORGOTTEN BEER, SO SET IT FREE!
>NOW IT'S ALL SO VERY CLEAR, LET'S CLIMB UP A TREE!
a TOLD b AND b TOLD c, I'LL MEET YOU AT THE TOP OF THE COCONUT TREE


-- 
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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: Charles Harness Request & Book List Request
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 05:52:20 GMT

c9005189@wombat.newcastle.edu.au:
>Could someone please give me some information on Charles Harness's science-
>fiction novel "The Paradox Men" (1953).
>
>I am interested to read this novel, but would firstly like some information
>on the book, particularly some info detail on plot and Harness's other books
>such as "Firebird", "The Rose"...

I'm not sure what to make of this bemusing request.  Do you want to know
whether the book will repay the time it takes you to read it, or do you
simply like to be told a book's plot before you start it?  And do you want
to know about his other books to help you decide whether the author is
worthy of your attention, or to help you decide whether you'd rather read
one of them instead of "The Paradox Men"?  If you're interested in reading
that book, why don't you go ahead and read it?  It'll probably take you
less time than it took to type up the message asking about it.

>...and a book, I, think, called "The Ritornel" (1968)

"The Ring of Ritornel"?

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

   God helpe the man so wrapt in Errours endless traine  -- Edmund Spenser
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From: jrhodes@linus.claremont.edu
Subject: Asimov question
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: 12 Oct 92 12:18:53 PDT

I read somewhere that Asimov finished a Foundation book, Forward the
Foundation, right before he died.   But, I can't seem to find it anywhere. 
Does anybody know anything about this?  Please e-mail me the responses.

			Thanks,
			Jason
From: imb@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: What Novel?
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:33:02 -0500

    I'm trying to identify a book I read when I was twelve.  I don't remember
the title or author, but it wasn't anybody major.  The story concerned the
first attempts at interplanetary flight; it was squarely in the paradigm of
gleaming stainless steel rocketships with foot-thick quartz windows and
nitric-acid fuel, etc. It was hardware-oriented and probably pretty unreadable. 
What sticks in memory is that it was illustrated with B+W photos of dioramas
featuring rockets, gantries and the like. Nothing directly to do with Willy
Ley, Tom Corbett, or anybody else I've ever heard of. Anybody remember this
book?
From: jsc@athena.mit.edu (Jin S. Choi)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Tunnel story name?
Date: 12 Oct 92 00:10:36 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

I just remembered a story I'd read some time ago that I'd like to find
again.  It deals with a vacation service that delivers fantasy vacations
by setting you up with a lot of high tech gear and dropping you off in
an alternate universe where you can act out your fantasies. Only problem
is the power gets turned off one day, and the survivors meet in a main
access tunnel of some sort which has accessways into all the different
universes, and they have to find the doorway into the home universe.  I
think it was a short story, but it might have been a part of a novel.
Has anyone else read this?

I'd appreciate it if any replies might also be e-mailed to me, as I'm
not sure how frequently I read this newsgroup.

--
Jin Choi
jsc@athena.mit.edu
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From: leifmk@Lise.Unit.NO (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y)
Subject: Re: Agnostics and Athiests
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 17:55:48 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.014224.1438@crd.ge.com>, kassover@rumsey.crd.ge.com (David Kassover) writes:
 > In article <Oct07.033126.61590@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> schwarte@CS.ColoState.EDU (eric schwartz) writes:
 > >In article <disaacs.717960966@cunews> disaacs@thuma.carleton.ca (Dave Isaacs) writes:
 > >>In <1992Sep30.094023.20888@pro-magic.oau.org> gatech!pro-magic.oau.org!mikeu (Mike Ungerman) writes:
 > >>
 > >>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IF THIS DOESN'T STOP, IM GOING TO START THE WORST CASCADE EVER.
 > >>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>WHILE EATING THIS SLOP, I SEWED THE FIRST BROCADE BEAVER.
 > >>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BILE FITTING RIG STOP, LIE SPEWED THIRST LIVER !!!!
 > >>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>IF YOU MUST CONTRIBUTE, AT LEAST DELIVER...
 > >>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>WHO MAY I ATTRIBUTE TO THIS BEASTLY SLIVER?
 > >>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>TO SPAY A LUTE IN A GREASY RIVER
 > >>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>DAMN CASCADERS THINK YOU'RE SO CLEVER
 > >>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>I WILL NOT CASCADE; NOPE, NO, NEVER
 > >>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>WOULD YOU, COULD YOU, ON A TRAIN?
 > >>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>WOULD YOU, COULD YOU, IN THE RAIN?
 > >>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>R2-D2 ON THE BRAIN?
 > >>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>This cascade is damn insane!
 > >>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>And it's really getting lame!
 > >>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>POST IN CAPS YOU WEIRDOS, WHAT ARE YOU DEAF ? !!!!!!!!!!!!
 > >>>>> |> > >>>> > >>>YOUVE RUINED MY RIGHT EAR, HOW 'BOUT THE LEFT?
 > >>>>> |> > >>>> > >>LEFT AT THE NEXT LIGHTS, UNLESS RED
 > >>>>> |> > >>>> > >THIS SILLY THING IS SOMETHING I DREAD, 
 > >>>>> |> > >>>> > >BETTER I SHOULD BE BUSY IN BED !
 > >>>>> |> > >>>> > WANKER, GIVE THY HAND A REST!
 > >>>>> |> > >>>> NAH! THIS AIN'T REC.HUMOR AT ITS BEST.
 > >>>>> |> > >>>SURELY YOU JEST?
 > >>>>> |> > >>THIS IS A TEST.
 > >>>>> |> > >SO BE OUR GUEST.
 > >>>>> |> > TESTING, TESTING, ONE TWO THREE.
 > >>>>> |> RETURN OF THE MONSTER CASCADE, HEE HEE HEE! 
 > >>>>> IF WISHES WERE HORSES THEN WHAT WOULD WE BE?
 > >>>>THE ANSWER MUST BE IN UPPER CASE SO THAT ALL CAN SEE.
 > >>>AT LEAST THIS HAS GOTTEN HERE SO THE NEXT ONE CAN BE ME!
 > >>THE BEAST HAS FORGOTTEN BEER, SO SET IT FREE!
 > >NOW IT'S ALL SO VERY CLEAR, LET'S CLIMB UP A TREE!
 > a TOLD b AND b TOLD c, I'LL MEET YOU AT THE TOP OF THE COCONUT TREE
POUND YOUR HEAD AGAINST THE MONITOR, PRETEND IT'S A HAMMER!
From: smith@ctron.com (Larry Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Re: SF Food
Date: 12 Oct 92 12:32:11 GMT
Reply-To: smith@ctron.com
Organization: Cabletron Systems, Inc.

In article <1b7sulINN25j@werple.apana.org.au>, kat@werple.apana.org.au (Kathryn Andersen) writes:
>Hello you knowledgable persons - can you help me?
>I am looking for SF-related food, for a party
>with an SF theme.  This can consist of:

>- recipies for closest equivalent of SF food

Heh, heh, heh.  A little green food coloring in a white-bread recipe for a
bread-baker or some sugar cookies would give you some delicious soylent green.

Those little sticks of food Luke was eating on Dagobah when Yoda showed up
looked like oatmeal cookies rolled into a hot dog shape.

If you are into H. Beam Piper, you might recall a tinned cake called "extee3"
which stood for "Extra-Terrestrial Eatable #3" or somesuch, which was also
described as a a sort of oatmealish cake - maybe with a corn base instead
of wheat.

Isaac Asimov described a future food in "The Caves of Steel": zymoveal, which
was pinkish and crumbly.  I'd take chopped popcorn and puffed rice and mix it
with a marshmallow & butter syrup with a shot of red food coloring.  Let it
dry out a bit before serving.  I don't know how to simulate the described
aftertaste. You might try a cinnamon/nutmeg combo for "melange" spice offered
in a little dish for guests to use to spice up the zymoveal.

>e.g. Klah (Pern novels)
They were frequently serving "wherry" which was not further described.  You
might get yourself a haunch of chevon to substitute - tastes like lean beef
and is actually better for you than beef, too.  Just don't call it "goat".

Of course, you've _got_ have some gakh.  I'd suggest serving it Earthling-style
(dead) instead of the traditional Klingon style.  It looks rather like some
variation of moo-shu pork, with a bit of pasta mixed in.

Larry Smith (smith@ctron.com)  No, I don't speak for Cabletron.  Need you ask?
-
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it is the freedom to do whatever we are able.
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From: tpenning@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Thomas R Pennington)
Subject: Re: Books I Hate to Love
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:26:51 GMT

In article <9210141751.AA03035@ektron.kodak.com> perl@ektron.kodak.com writes:
>sdh5@po.cwru.edu (Scott D. Hurley) says:
>
>> This train of thought reminds me of an observation I've made lately: is it
>> just my imagination, or does there seem to be a shifting trend towards
>> protagonistic villains, antagonists so wonderfully shaped that one ends up
>> rooting for them instead of the 'Good Guys'?
>>
>> Classic examples are Kahn Noonion Soong (I think that's how it is spelled),
>> of Star Trek: The Saurons of Pournelle's Co-Dominion universe: and The Lady
>> of Glen Cook's _Annals_of_The_Black_ Company_ series.
>>
>> Of course they're have been others in literature, most notably Dracula,
>> Frankenstein, Nemo, and Professor Moriarty, but it seems to me that now we
>> have adversaries that are preferable to the so-called protagonists.
>
>    Yeah, I have to agree.  The bad guys seem to be becomming much more
>popular than the good guys.  One good example would have to be the character
>Demise in the Wild Cards series.  It could be because he was a lot more
>developed than some of the other characters though.  A great example of this
>would also have to be Doctor Doom (I know this is SF and not comics, but it
>is a good example).  Dr Doom just has a certain character appeal.
>
>    All of this probably stems from all the old pulp novel messages of
>it being far easier to be evil than good.  In general, what is easy tends
>to be far more appealing that what is hard.  I mean Darth Vader can blow
>up a whole planet, and the reason is because he wanted to, and we can accept
>that.  On the other hand, Luke and Ben simply could not indiscriminantly
>blow up a planet, because they could not justify it with their beliefs, and
>neither could we.  Its harder to live by morals than it is not to.  And since
>it is easier to live without morals, we are more naturally attracted to the
>evil (which is easier) rather than the good (which is hard).  This is
>basically how it was explained in a Film Noir course I took in college.
>
>                        ---> Todd <---
(* signature deleted to save space *)

Another possible reason for this is due to the technique on the authors.  
When the authors start to describe, in depth, the motives, characteristics, 
desires, and moods of their villians, the reader tends to become more familiar 
with that character.  This makes the reader feel like they now the "bad guy" 
and the "bad guy" becomes real to them.  It is harder to despise something that
you feel like you know personally.

I like this type of technique in authors.  It makes the books more enjoyable 
and makes me feel like I am right there with all the characters.

Someother books that deminstrate this technique are:
           Moorcocks's Elric series
           Feist's Riftwar saga  (with the soldiers of the empire)
           Cards's Endersgame    (with Pete)


-thomas

"When your a king, you have to know these things"
                                      - Motey Python
From: be726@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph A. Ellis Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Re: SF Food
Date: 13 Oct 1992 14:49:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: be726@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph A. Ellis Jr.)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


>In article <1b7sulINN25j@werple.apana.org.au>, kat@werple.apana.org.au (Kathryn Andersen) writes:
>>Hello you knowledgable persons - can you help me?
>>I am looking for SF-related food, for a party
>>with an SF theme.  This can consist of:
>>- recipies for closest equivalent of SF food
>

Actually, coffee passes for klah just fine. Wherry, though, is _definately_ 
not goat... it's a predatory avian! At various gathers, we simply roasted a
turkey over an open fire. I did hear of one group that had 'fledgling
wherry'... it was rabbit, with chicken wings sewn on!

For a drink, we had something in college that we simply called "Swamp
water". It was a punch bowl of green kool-aid, mixed with 7-up rather than
water, with lime sherbet floating on top. After a little bit, this
yields a rather convincing green scum on the surface. To really top it off, 
drop a couple of chunks of dry ice in the bottom! (Be sure to alert folks,
though, so that no one tries to put it in their drink... or mouth!)
###
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From: ikos@netcom.com (Ikos)
Subject: Clarke's Forth law?
Summary: He has another one?
Keywords: Clarke, Laws, Computers
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:05:13 GMT

I remember reading a newspaper article a long time ago of an interview
of Arthur C. Clark.  I may be wrong about this, but I think it mentions
that he has a "Fourth" law that involves computers.

Can someone tell me if I'm having hallucinations?  If you just happen
to have the exact same hallucination (but with better detail), tell me what
is his "Fourth" law is.

To refresh your memories, here are his first three laws (From "Murphy's Law"
of all places...)

Clark's First Law:
        When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is
        possible, he is almost certainly right.  When he states that
        something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.
Clark's Second Law:
        The only way to discover the limits of the possible is to go beyond
        them into the impossible.
Clark's Third Law:
        Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.


-Jeff Chan
        jeff@ikos.com	(*not* ikos@netcom.com)
        ..!netcom!ikos!jeff

"The problem handed them was a nice, simple, clear-cut item: They saw that
one man had done the impossible-- and they saw, too, that they had to
duplicate his feat." --Noise Level by Raymond Jones
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