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From: jbmorris@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (jeffrey brent morris)
Subject: Re: Really bizarre GET BACK take
Keywords: Pakistanis
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:54:31 GMT

Ah, yes, the famous "No Pakistanis" version of "Get Back".
This was apparently a very early take and working version of the song, from
the Twickenham Film Studios filming in early January, 1969.  Several people
have pointed to this to say that Paul is racist or something.  I don't ever
recall hearing Paul himself comment on it - has anyone else?  I'd like to
know what he has to say.
At any rate, it is available on the first disc of _The Black Album_, among
other places.
Another popular "weird" take of "Get Back" is the "German" version - "Geh
Rahs", I believe it's called, or something like that.  You can hear Paul
saying "Mach Shau" ("make show"), as they used to be told to do in Hamburg.
And then there's the "laughing" version at the end of the _Get Back_ LP...

- Jeff ("You've been playing on the roof again, and you know your momma
         don't like that.  She gonna have you arrested!" - Paul)




Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: plant@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Subject: "Tomorrow Never Knows"
Reply-To: plant@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 15:27:43 GMT

In the Note on general Beatles info, compiled I think by Saki, a
section talks about drug references in Beatle songs.  With that in 
mind, I was listening to "Tomorrow Never Knows", a song I've always
assumed was taking listeners on a "trip" (any arguments?), and there
is a line I just can't pick up.

After the "That love is all, that love is everything" verse, John
(I assume again) mutters a line, something about "...hate...", then
"This is believing, this is believing."

Anybody with ears young enough to catch the previous line?  I'd be\
grateful (tho not dead).  Thanks

Greg "Stuck in the '60's" Plant
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: olemo@dhhalden.no (OLE-MAGNUS OLSEN)
Subject: Re: Beatles Reunion??
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:10:08 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.215724.12908@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> plant@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com writes:

>While it seems unlikely, the Boys getting back together for a little
>music, fun, and one helluva lot of money certainly would offset recent 
>career disappointments, such as the sales of George's live and Ringo's
>studio albums.  As a Beatlephile, I can only encourage any reunion, 

I wouldn't say that the sales of Ringo's studio album is really a career 
disappointment, 'cause it's a great album. Ringo has just never been as 
popular as the other Beatles (and now he'd been more or less out of the 
public eye for years).

Despite the fact that I know many people disagree with me, I also think 
George's live album is good, especially the solo material - and especially 
the NEWER solo material (still, I think "What Is Love" is the best on the 
whole album).

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From: edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: NO, THEY'RE *NOT* REFORMING!
Date: 18 Dec 1992 04:45:48 GMT
Organization: Little to none, or maybe not......
NNTP-Posting-Host: evolution.bchs.uh.edu

In article <BzFF1L.A7G@mtholyoke.edu> mdubey@MtHolyoke.edu (Mandakini Dubey) writes:
>
>I was just wondering, who are the well-placed sources from inside "Paul's
>camp" (has he taken to playing Cowboys & Indians again in his dotage? ;)
>Just kidding) who say that he is desperate for a hit single? 

Well, this was a quote which was "off the record"  (meaning the source
can't be revealed :-) from the publicity office.   It does certainly seem
reasonable that Paul would desire a hit record to overcome the somewhat
slow sales of his eighties output.

>Please don't get me wrong, I'm not mindless about this man (Macca), and I
>*did* read Saki's post with loving care. 

Nor did anyone accuse you of being mindless about the man.   However,
paraphrasing saki, "the more cynical among us would think this all a big 
publicity stunt".  This is particularly true in light of the *previous time*
Paul came out with this statement, he did use the magical word "Beatles", AND
there was no truth behind it at all.   

>However, I just find that it all fits too quickly into the cliche of 
>politician Paul. My problem, always, is with the fact that these images build
>up around people whom we don't actually know, and then we start ascribing 
>motives to them. 

But, we really aren't discussing Paul's motives for this statement.   In
fact, this time around, I would be willing to say it's the media who are
blowing a simple answer to a simple question out of all proportion.  

[stuff deleted]

>Either way we will never really know. Therefore, I subscribe to the belief
>that we should butt out of their personalities, or their "masks", and just
>enjoy the music.

Perhaps so, but when the hype overshadows the music  (as it really does
in a circumstance like this, when the new release isn't even *out* yet!)
the story becomes the news.   For the most part, I would agree -- Paul's
motives for any move he makes doesn't matter -- but, when those moves are
for the sole purpose of manipulating the public, those facts should be
presented...

<ESC>
-- 
Something in the way she moves, attracts me like a pomegranate.
                                     -- George Harrison
From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Paul/George/Ringo Documentary
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:00:17 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

Well, I'm sure you've all heard the most exciting news
for Beatles fans since 1970.  Paul McCartney is doing a
documentary film on the Beatles along with George and Ringo.
I heard few details in the press announcement, only that the
film would be many hours long.  There was no word on the scheduled
completion date, or when/where the film would be aired.  There
was speculation that the three would actually perform together
again, but Paul seemed to be discouraging such comments.

It was also interesting to hear George thank the Beatles during
the Billboard Awards show.  It looks like all three of them
are, after more than 20 years, coming to terms with their
Beatleness, and feeling that it no longer needs to be avoided.


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Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: olemo@dhhalden.no (OLE-MAGNUS OLSEN)
Subject: Re: BEATLES ANOMALIES Part 3
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:19:20 GMT

In article <1ddgn1INNhhh@clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk> cstadbg@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr M J Brown) writes:
>
>Dear Yoko
>+++++++++
>
>I know this is not a Beatles song, but what are the words lennon says at
>the end, something like "When you come over next time don't .... Spend some
>time ...." ??? Help!

"When you come over next time, don't sell a house, spend some time with the 
family" or something like that. Yoko was too busy with business (while John 
was the househusband).

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Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: jbmorris@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (jeffrey brent morris)
Subject: unheard Beatles alternates
Summary: Where are they?
Keywords: studio, alternates
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:40:10 GMT

There are several alternate Beatles takes that I read about in
<THE BOOK> that I would love to hear, but I've never seen them
on bootleg.  Could anyone tell me if they ever see any of this
stuff?  Also, post ones that you'd love to hear too.  Who knows?
Maybe they are out there somewhere, but not everyone knows about
them.
A few that come to mind immediately are:

the two earlier versions of "And I Love Her"
"I'm Looking Through You" takes 2 & 3
"Helter Skelter" - the 27:11 version
"Yellow Submarine" - with "John O' Green" intro
"That Means a Lot" takes 20-22
"One After 909" takes 3-5
"I Saw Her Standing There" take 1
"A Huge Melody" with "Her Majesty" intact

These are just a few that come to mind immediately.
Also, I just recently found John's 1963 demo of "I'm in Love" on a
Chapter One bootleg of White Album stuff (interestingly enough!),
but the sound keeps going out like once/second, as if there's
something wrong with the CD, but it isn't scratched.  I tried two
different copies, and they were both the same.  Where else can this
recording be found?

- Jeff ("From Land O'Groates, to John O'Green, in our Yellow Submarine")

Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: mdubey@MtHolyoke.edu (Mandakini Dubey)
Subject: Boys?
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:08:10 GMT


I was wondering, is it really fair to call a bunch of middle-aged men "the
boys?" Specially since they themselves apparently hated it (I read
interview with Lennon in which he spoke very bitterly about how they were
all marketed by these business sharks who spoke patronizingly about them
as "the boys").
It also restricts them to that period of their lives, rather than allowing
for the fact that by the time they split up, they were quite definitely
grown men who had been through a lot more than most 28-year olds do. And
now they're past 50, which hardly qualifies as the first flush of youth
(or so thinks this callow 20-year old).

Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: "headly westerfield" <headly.westerfield@canrem.com>
Subject: menlove avenue.
Reply-To: "headly westerfield" <headly.westerfield@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 12 Dec 92 17:02:57 EST

Could somebody tell me about Menlove Avenue?

The record, not the place.

I assume it comes from The Lost Weekend, or at least some of it.
Anyone have any info on this?

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From: bad@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: The Singles on CD
Date: 14 Dec 1992 19:28:14 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: pismo.sw.stratus.com
Keywords: singles, mono

In article <1992Dec14.163625.22989@news.columbia.edu> brennan@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Joseph Brennan) writes:
>
>What mono mixes?  GB/DLMD was the first stereo single by the Beatles.

GB/DLMD was in mono on the UK single, I think.  I'll check tonight if
I remember.

>
>Mono "Revolution" is better in my opinion.  It sounds more distorted
>and heavy.  "play loud" as John said on later singles.
>

I'll be glad to second that one!

Bruce



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Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: s9874203@titan.ucc.umass.edu (s9874203)
Subject: Greatest Hits?
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 02:17:57 GMT

Hi, I wonder if there are albums called Beatles' Greatest Hits or
something like that. I love some of Beatles' songs, such as Hey Judy,
and Listen to the rhythm of falling rain,.... I can't remember the
titles of some songs I love. Anyone would like to suggest their favorite
Beatles' songs? I used to listen them back in China.

No flames, please.

H.Y. 

Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: dmac@julia.math.ucla.edu (saki)
Subject: Book on the Paul Is Dead hoax
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 16:22:06 GMT

Tom Schultheiss of Popular Culture Ink has sent me the following
information about his forthcoming offering on the PID myth:

And I quote:

" 'Turn Me On, Dead Man: The story of the Paul McCartney death hoax' by
Andru J. Reeve"

"Forthcoming from Popular Culture Ink later in 1993, this book is devoted 
to presenting the history behind the McCartney death hoax, the roles of
people like DJ Russ Gibb (WKNR-FM) and 'Michigan Daily' (University of
Michigan) record reviewer Fred LaBour (now a member of the singing group 
Riders in the Sky), press and public reaction to it, discussion of 70
'clues' discovered on Beatles albums. The book will also feature an
'afterword' by Joel Glazier (well-known death hoax lecturer and radio-
program producer), reprints of several related articles and newspaper
pieces about the hoax, and a list of recommended readings. Includes
illustrations."

Anyone interested in reserving a copy of the book, or those needing more
information, may contact Popular Culture Ink at PO Box 1839, Ann Arbor MI,
48106; you can call them at 1-800-678-8828. No payment required now to
reserve a copy.

--
"Some of these tunes are purely instrumental, such as 'Looking Glass',
'Catswalk' and 'Winston's Walk', and others were composed with the modern
audience in mind, tunes like 'Thinking of Linking', 'The One After 909'...."
---------------------------------------------------saki (dmac@math.ucla.edu)
From: cq019@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Preston Landers)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Any date?
Date: 13 Dec 1992 23:42:23 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cq019@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Preston Landers)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


	Is there any date (or approximate date) set to the official Beatles
film?  Is the title going to be "The Long and Winding Road" or does any
one know?

Thanks!
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From: v201lrxa@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (NOWHERE MAN)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Harrison/McCartney
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:25:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	When I read the postings on the possible collaboration 
between George and Paul, I was glad I brought my copy of 'Dark
Horse' to work! One of the appendices is a transcribed press 
conference in 1988 (Toronto), a few months after the release
of 'Cloud Nine'. 
	George was asked about working with Paul and Ringo, and
George responds (in part): "...I've only been there about 
thirty years in Paul's life and now he wants to write with me.
But I think it's maybe quite interesting sometime to do that."
	A related question asked if he would "tell him if he was 
no good" (as in if George was unhappy with Paul's contributions).
George responds: "Sure. For the last few years I've spoken my mind 
to him." He gives the example of how he thought Paul shouldn't have
had total control over the making of 'Broad Street', and explains 
that probably the only barrier between them is their astrological 
signs :)

	All in all, I think it would be interesting to see how the whole
deal turns out, whether it lasts, or whether or not they up and kill
each other over it :)

mike
From: edc@dawn.cs.rice.edu (Edward Chen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: More on the REUNION
Keywords: beatles, paul, reunion, george, ringo
Date: 19 Dec 92 18:59:47 GMT
Organization: Rice University, Houston

In article <1992Dec19.052451.29952@cbfsb.cb.att.com> rcook@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (r.w.cook) writes:
>
>Personally, I kind of hope they don't.  Regardless of how they
>might bill themselves, they *will* be compared with the Beatles.
>
>As solo artists they've all (even Ringo ;^) ) done some great things.
>But, I think most r.m.b'ers - most *music* lovers - will agree that
>individually they don't hold a candle to what went before.  There's
>*no way*, even if John were still around, that those four gents named
>John, Paul, George and Ringo could ever recapture the magic (IMHO) of
>those earlier times.
>
>I'm afraid I'd be disappointed, no matter *how* good the remaining three
>might sound.  (Not that I wouldn't listen anyway!)
>
>As they say 'round here; "Let sleeping dogs lie."

"It's the story of the Golden Temple.  A Guy fell in love with it and
 burned it down.  He couldn't stand the idea of its falling apart as it
 got older, and now the Golden temple exists in perfect form forever. It
 became a myth.

 That's why the Beatles will stay a beautiful myth, because they ended
 before they deteriorated."
                           -- Yoko Ono


To an extent, that's why I agree with you.   There cannot be a Beatles
again.   Even if John were still alive, they *could not* be the twenty
year olds they once were.  Even if they managed to somehow recapture the
"spirit" of the past, society is not the same as it was in the 1960's. In 
a sense, this is the answer to the question of why the Beatles remain 
"The Boys".  Quoting Nicholas Schaffner:

"The world viewed the Beatles at three different levels - as a phenomenon,
 as personalities, and through their music.   The phenomenon has receded
 into nostalgia and history; the personalities as we knew them have grown
 apart and middle aged.  But, the best of the music they created together
 is timeless."

So, its a case of reality as opposed to expectations and dreams.  New music
from the men who were once 75% of the Beatles would certainly be interesting,
and probably great but no matter how much hype and planning went into it, the
result would not, and in fact, COULD not be "The Beatles"...

-- 
.. newspaper taxis appear on the shore, waiting to take you away ...
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: jhopkins@cbacc.cba.uga.edu (John Hopkins)
Subject: Seventies Pop lyrics quiz
Organization: Terry College of Business, University of Georgia
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:46:21 GMT


A few months ago, a gentleman named John Hiatt came up with a nifty idea: post a lyrics quiz that is easy enough that an average radio listener can do well at it.  His quiz was based on music of the eighties.  In that vein, this is a relatively easy quiz A few months ago, a gentleman named John Hiatt came up with a nifty idea: post a lyrics quiz that is easy enough that an average radio listener can do well at it.  His quiz was based on music of the eighties.  In that vein, this is a relatively easy quiz b

ased on the music of the seventies.  If you listened to the radio, saw "Saturday Night Fever," and liked K.C. and the Sunshine Band, you should do well.

Please do not post your answers.  You may mail them to me at jhopkins@cbacc.cba.uga.edu.  Answers are due in my mailbox by 0700 GMT on Tuesday, December 22.  I will post the results the following day.

I'm sorry that I can't offer a prize to the winner.  Hopefully the fun of playing is incentive enough.

Good luck, and above all, have fun!!

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1.	Well I didn't want to bring her
	and I know it will make her worse.

2.	And they whirl and they twirl and they tango.

3.	So here I am with pockets full of good intentions,
	but none of them will comfort me tonight.

4.	One chromosome too many.

5.	We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

6.	There's an open road that leads to nowhere,
	so just make some miles between here and there.

7.	Know that the Lord is well and inside of you.

8.	It'll take you a couple of vodka and tonics
	to set you on your feet again.

9.	She's mighty mighty, just lettin' it all hang out.

10.	A woman that I know just came from Majorca, Spain.

11.	Don't play B-17, it was our song, it was his song.

12.	I was on the dance floor acting strange.

13.	Writing something nasty on the wall.

14.	We were at the beach;
	everybody had matching towels.

15.	Have you ever had to push push push push?

16.	You may feel a little sick.

17.	Ain't no beauty queens in this locality, I'll tell you.

18.	Well your big brown eyes are all filled with tears
	from the bitterness of those lonely years.

19.	I'm the one you're using, please dont push me aside.

20.	In a silk dress, running like a watercolor in the rain.

21.	I think I had met my match.
	He was singing.

22.	I got the world calling me up here tonight on the phone.

23.	This world was never meant for one as beautiful as you.

24.	You can get yourself clean,
	you can have a good meal,
	you can do whatever you feel.

25.	In these old familiar rooms, children would play.
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: frede@microsoft.com (Frederick Einstein)
Subject: Beatles Japanese Laser Disks
Date: 15 Dec 92 06:56:01 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.


In Japan, Magical Mystery Tour has just been re-released on VHS, Beta
and Laser disk.  It is on the "Apple" label.  Music re-mastering is
credited to George Martin.  Dialogue remastering is credited to 
Ron Furmarek.

John and Yoko's Imagine (from 1971 -- not the documentary) is also
available on LaserDisk.  I don't ever recall seeing this in the U.S.

A new collection of John Lennon videos is also available on 
LaserDisk here.  These were compiled by Yoko and include some
animated John Lennon lithographs.

Are any of these available yet in the U.S. or Europe?

Regards,


FredE
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: a70901@uwasa.fi (Mikko Suhonen)
Subject: Re: The Singles on CD
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:33:14 GMT

Could someone give me short explanation whether the Singles on CD -box is
worth buying if I have all the songs on CD:s already. Are the songs
different/better on singles?
 

-- 
Mikko Suhonen
Vaasa, Finland
(a70901@chyde.uwasa.fi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: fanyl@vms2.iscs.nus.sg (FAN YENG LOON)
Subject: Re: Beatles in the news...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: National University of Singapore Dept. of Computer Sc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:14:00 GMT

In article <1ga53mINNgal@lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk>, maujs@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J D Morris) writes...
>	According to ITN, as of 12 o'clock today:
> 
>		THE BEATLES ARE GETTING BACK TOGETHER!!!
>							(sort of)
> 
>	The feature was mainly about the new 14-part TV series
>about the Beatles. It seems that PM,GH and RS are all working on
>it, but not only that, Paul says there is the possibility of them
>getting together to record some NEW material for it. 
>
> [stuff deleted]

This IS the best x'mas present that I could ever wish for!!!!   *8)

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