HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ad198@yfn.ysu.edu (Carl Landis)
Subject: Re: NCRP report on RFEM effects
Reply-To: ad198@yfn.ysu.edu (Carl Landis)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:17:24 GMT


In a previous article, jmb1@quads.uchicago.edu (james michael balter) says:

>For all those debating about ELF effects:
>
>	The NCRP produces a report on the effects of radio-frequency
>electromagnetic radiation in 1986.  I have the report, but the first
>page is missing, and so I don't know the number.  The chairman of
>the committee was Dr. Arthur Guy from the University of Washington.
>
>James balter
>james@rover.bsd.uchicago.edu
>"If the hat fits, slice it!"
>

It is NCRP #86.

_Carl
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From: lindae@netcom.com ()
Subject: Need Info. On Doctor at Pitt
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 01:49:15 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 


Does anyone have any information on Dr. Peter Jannetta, a neurosurgeon
at Presbyterian University Hospital in Pittsburgh?  I am thinking of
having an elective surgery with him and I would like to speak with anyone
else who might be a patient of his or who has had surgery by this
doctor.  You can reply to my e-mail:  lindae@netcom.com


Thanks in Advance,

Linda
From: km@speedy.cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Questions for MDs
Date: 26 Jul 92 15:29:21 GMT
Reply-To: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Organization: Computer Science Dept., University of Pittsburgh

In article <54911@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:
>In article <15784@pitt.UUCP> km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum) writes:

>>Excuse me. The next time I go into a shoe store where the salesman
>>has been on his feet the past 12 hours with 50 patients, 3 cardiac
>>arrests, 2 major trauma cases, and a bunch of prissy private doctors
>>on the phone telling him what to do with the little old lady with
>>gas, I'll address him differently.
>
>If that is the situation, we need more doctors!  If you have been on
>your feet for the past 12 hours, *I* personally am unwilling to trust
>your ability to act in a competent medical manner.

Hmm. Are you going to hire two doctors to do the above workload and
pay them each half what I was paid? The above was a typical Saturday
day tour for me, in 1985, at $32 per hour. And that included 
*NO* benefits of any kind. Today the same hospital pays about $45
an hour.

 -km
From: bhjelle@vaxine.unm.edu (Brian Hjelle)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Blood transfusions
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:05:13 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <2923@mdavcr.mda.ca> vida@mdavcr.mda.ca (Vida Morkunas) writes:
>Over dinner last night, my friends and I somehow gravitated to the subject of
>blood transfusions during a hospital stay.  One friend said she heard that
>one can receive blood from a given person only once in one's life, e.g. if
>my mother were to give blood to me, she could only do so (for me) once.  If
>I were to need another transfusion, I would have to get it from someone else
>as my body would react strongly to my mother's blood the second time around.
>
>Is this true???  Sounds dubious to me but I'm curious...
>
No.

People commonly receive blood from one donors repeatedly,
especially platelets.

However, except in special circumstances like a leukemia patient
who needs repeated phereis platelets from a single donor, 
designated donations from family members are usually a bad
idea. They are more likely, on average, to transmit disease
than are standard "homologous" blood donations.

Brian
From: mcovingt@athena.cs.uga.edu (Michael A. Covington)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: To all people who keep fish as pets/whatever
Date: 30 Jul 92 01:45:38 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

[Various people write:]

>>Cowan> chloramine to purify water today - a change from the previously
         ^^^^^^^^^^
>>Cowan> used chlorine.  Chlormaine is extermely toxic to fish, and even
                         ^^^^^^^^^^
>>If chlormaine is that toxic, should there be concern on its long term
     ^^^^^^^^^^
>My understanding is that Chlormaine works (on fish) by directly burning
                          ^^^^^^^^^^

Isn't it chloramine (not -maine), i.e., chlorine + amino- something?
              ^^^^^


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From: george@ibmpcug.co.uk (Michael Veltman)
Subject: Re: Telephones and Doctors
X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this article are those of the author
	alone and may not represent the views of the IBM PC User Group.
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 18:54:02 GMT

In article <15769@pitt.UUCP> geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks) writes:
>In article <15764@pitt.UUCP> km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum) writes:
>>
>>The last time I bought a car I spent three hours haggling with the
>>dealer to get the price I wanted. He found out I was a doctor after
>>the deal was done.
>>
>And I'll bet he cussed you up one side and down another after
>he found out.  I also never tell people I'm a doctor unless
>I trust them very well.  People assume all doctors are rich.

True.  I have two credit cards, on with and one without "Dr".  Mostly,
I use the one without.

I think most people don't realise how little I get per hour,
particularly after hours... Currently 4 pounds per hour (UK pounds)
thats about US $7-8  or Aus $10 or NZ $12.

Not alot for keeping someone alive for an hour while the surgeon
removes some strangulated bowel.

Michael

P.S. and yes, thats BEFORE tax.

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From: joshua@Veritas.COM (Joshua Levy)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: To all people who keep fish as pets/whatever
Date: 29 Jul 92 23:46:29 GMT
Organization: VERITAS Software

Someone wrote:
>Cowan> For those unaware, the regional municipality starts using
>Cowan> chloramine to purify water today - a change from the previously
>Cowan> used chlorine.  Chlormaine is extermely toxic to fish, and even

laub@Software.Mitel.COM (Boniface Lau) added:
>If chlormaine is that toxic, should there be concern on its long term
>effect on human consumption?

My understanding is that Chlormaine works (on fish) by directly burning
their gills in some way.  So unless you have gills, I would not be to
worried.  It kills fish so quickly that there is no way to tell if
would cause long term problems; and anyway, I don't think fish damage
would be a good predictor of person damage.

Joshua Levy  (joshua@veritas.com)
From: georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Colonic irrigations
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:19:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: eng.1992Jul24.161943.11430
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <MDF0.92Jul24113754@shemesh.GTE.com> mdf0@GTE.com (Mark Feblowitz) writes:
>
>BTW - I fell prey to the colonic irrigation quacks (amoung others)
>when I had a severe bout of rheumatoid arthritis. I was in constant

Tell us a little more about how you went about meeting a quack
doctor, his demeanor, etc, so the rest of us will know how to
recognize one if we meet one. 

I've never met a quack doctor, but this year I unknowingly got on the
mailing list of one. It took me a few months to realize this MD was
a quack because I am a layperson, and afterall this guy was an MD, so
I believed everything he said. Had it not been for feedback I got from
sci.med and Gabe Mirkin, I might still believe everything this guy
claimed.

Laypersons whose only source of medical information is the quack
himself are less fortunate.
From: stone@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Glenn Stone)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Colonic irrigations
Keywords: alt medicine
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:31:34 GMT
Reply-To: stone@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Glenn Stone)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <15858@pitt.UUCP> km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum) writes:

>>How sad that there is so much pressure to deny that
>>some people get pleasure out of anal stimulation.
>
>Oh my goodness. Now I suppose we are in for the ultimate in
>PC politics. What shall we call these people who stick
>familiar objects into unfamiliar spaces so that we do not
>offend them?
>
>I really think, as a service to these people, that we should
>pressure Congress to require warning labels on the most common
>of these objects, so that people will know that, despite
>their suggestive appearance and handiness, they are not
>supposed to be inserted into certain orifices. Or perhaps
>we should require strings on Coke bottles.

Well I certainly think there should be warnings on mayo jars that if
you sit on them with no pants on they'll be up your bunghole quick as
a bunny.  It happens all the time.  Just the other day we were making
lunch for the kids and couldn't find the Hellmans, and then I
remembered some discomort when I sat down the day before, and I said,
"Honey I think I've got the Hellmans up my bum."  She said, "They
really should put warning labels of those bottles."

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From: sdl@linus.mitre.org (Steven D. Litvintchouk)
Subject: Re: irritable bowel syndrome
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:03:41 GMT


In article <7721.2A5EF36F@stjhmc.fidonet.org> Terri.Hein@f207.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Terri Hein) writes:

> does anyone have any information on irritable bowel syndrome.  I've been
>  diagnosed with this and wonder if avoiding any foods or drink can eleviate the
>  pain, bloat and discomfort. I am currently suffering about once a month.
>  Flair ups come without any warning and don't seem to be related to anxiety
>  or stress.  

How about depression?

>  Any information any one has would be greatly appreciated.  I am
>  currently taking donnatal for the pain.  Can anything be done to get rid of
>  it??? Thanks so much. Terri

I used to suffer from IBS, taking Donnatal, etc.  But the following
tips have virtually eliminated IBS for me:

  -- Fatty foods (e.g. prime rib, fried foods) affect bowel transit
	time, and can precipitate an IBS attack in some people.
	I cut my fat intake way down.

  -- Caffeine and alcohol can also irritate the colon and precipitate
	attacks (BTW you should probably give up alcohol if you take
	Donnatal anyway).  So can the oils of even decaffeinated
	coffee, I find.  So I minimize my coffee intake.

  -- Increased fiber, on the other hand, seems to prevent most attacks.  
	Loading up on salads and bran has really helped me (but I avoid
	beans and other foods that generate intestinal gas).

The book "Gut Reactions" has a lot of good info on the physiology of IBS.

On rare occasions when an attack comes on anyway, I find that exercise
(e.g. situps) that exercises the abdominal area seems to alleviate
attacks.


If there were a FAQ for this newsgroup, irritable bowel syndrome
would be one of the major topics covered....


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From: kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:17:30 GMT
Subject: Neuro-biofeedback
Organization: HP Western Response Center
Newsgroups: sci.med

Does anyone have a lead on this:

    Using "neuro-biofeedback" to treat epilepsy and attention deficit 
    hyperactivity disorder
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: allergy/asthma self-help
From: Ed.Madara@f140.n150.z1.fidonet.org (Ed Madara)
Date: 24 Jul 92 04:30:13 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:150/140 - Black Bag BBS, Newark DE

For those who suffer with asthma or severe allergies (or have children or 
family members in the battle), you may be interested in knowing that the 
Asthma & Allergy Foundation of America has 101 local self-help support groups 
that provide the latest information on treatment, coping skills and
research.
If, after you contact them, you find out that there isn't a local group,
they can provide you with a free guide on how to join with others to get a 
group going. They have a newsletter, informational materials, and a national 
conference of self-help group leaders. For information on the Foundation and a 
possible local group, write them at:
 
     1125 15th St. N.W., Suite 502
     Washington, D,C. 20005
     or phone them weekdays at (202) 466-7643
  
     - Ed


 

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From: szechowy@arise.webo.dg.com (Stefan Zechowy)
Subject: Re: Weight/appearance of professional models; Re: Obesity...
Date: 22 Jul 92 11:46:45
	<61dm6+n.sss@netcom.com> <1992Jul21.144403.19162@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
Organization: NSDD, Data General Corp.

>>>>> On 21 Jul 92 14:44:02 CDT, kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad) said:

	Joel> In article <61dm6+n.sss@netcom.com> sss@netcom.com (Small Systems Solutions) writes:
>
>Male bulimia has been common in one sport -- wrestling -- where a premium
>is placed on achieving the lowest possible weight in order to be competitive.
>The whole team goes out for pizza, then purges together...

	Joel> Some wrestlers I used to know would sit around a can and spit in it for
	Joel> hours at a time, in an attempt to lose water weight right before the
	Joel> "big match."

	Joel> Disgusting, if you ask me.

These examples are only "moderate" in terms of what some high
school(read: young, impressionable and stupid) wrestlers will go
through to lose weight.  Nylon "sweat"suits, laxatives, and absolute
dehydration are not uncommon.

				-Stefan
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From: M20614@mwvm.mitre.org (Hugh Pritchard)
Subject: Re: Beta-blocker?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:38:54 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.103821.2347@nic.csu.net>
donna@filly.calstate.edu (Morag ni Shabhain) writes:
 
>What's a beta-blocker?
 
Short for "beta-adrenergic receptor blocker."
 
Beta-adrenergic receptors are in the walls of smooth muscles around blood
vessels and cardiac muscle.  They receive neurotransmitter molecules from
nerves of the sympathetic nervous system.  This part of the nervous system
controls *increases* in blood pressure, as well as other things.  Blocking
these receptors blocks the blood-pressure-increasing signals.
 
**  Hugh Pritchard,  hapritch@mitre.org,  703/883-6616
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From: mdkline@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Mark D. Kline)
Subject: Re: Sleeping Pills
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 12:18:20 EDT

In article <1992Jul21.021434.1918@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>My memory seems to have faded, but what is the principal ingredient
>in sleeping pills that are not over-the-counter (OTC)?

The mostly widely prescribed hypnotic drugs ("sleeping pills"), and far
and away the safest, are the benzodiazepine cousins of valium, including
Dalmane (flurazepam), Halcion (triazolam), and others.  
Choral hydrate, a real old timer, is still available, but is much more
dangerous in overdose.  I believe that methaqualone (Quaalude) has 
been taken off the market.  A few other  nonbarbiturates
are still available (e.g., glutethimide (Doriden), 
methpyrlon (Noludar), ethchlorvynol (Placidyl)) but are not widely used.
Barbiturates such as Seconal were at one time the mostly used but are
now very rarely used, since they are quite habit forming and very dangerous
in overdose.

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From: al037@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dave Polewka)
Subject: Re: Definition of an addict.
Reply-To: al037@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dave Polewka)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 23:22:21 GMT


In a previous article, esr@snark.thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond) says:

>Ah.  In that case, it is both correct and predictive to observe that statists
>are addicted to government.  Political-force junkies, unable to imagine any
>solution beyond the next fix.  Poor bastards.

Yeah, but we ALL suffer, because, like the other addictions,
it's a family disease.  And there's a hell of a lot of 
codependency, too.  Just like the alcoholic and his family, few
can see the connection between the use and the troubling consequences.
The typical behavior is to play the blame game.  But when
everyone is pointing the finger at everyone else, the end
result is NO CHANGE.  Of course, the REAL solution is less
government.  When you can't do activity X without getting into
trouble, then the common sense answer is to cut down on 
activity X.  Playing the blame game is NEVER a solution.
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From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: sci.med,alt.drugs
Subject: Re: What is the Health Risk from Smoking MJ?
Date: 28 Jul 92 22:03:15 GMT
Organization: Ohio University School of Art,. Athens

In article <seRMAna00WB20WHpc=@andrew.cmu.edu> af1x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Alan S. Ferrency) writes:

>>I believe Bob Marley died from smoking so much ganga he got lung
>>cancer.
>
>I heard it was a brain tumor.

You guys are joking, right? Bob Marley died of leukemia.




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Subject: Inquiry: Life Extension
From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f66.n104.z1.fidonet.org (Peggy Noonan)
Date: 24 Jul 92 04:30:33 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/66.0 - The WatchDesk, Thornton CO

I hope you'll be able to help me solve a problem.  A relative is interested in 
the Life Extension Foundation which offers a list of doctors knowledgeable in 
"advanced therapies" such as using hydergine and eldepryl and vasopressin for 
treating memory problems and depression.  Their ad offers a list of clinic 
where such unapproved drugs would be available and offers a mail order 
pharmacy.
        
Does anyone know anything at all about this group, whether it's "safe" or 
alarming?  Any comments?  Any experience with it?
        
And what do you think of the use of vasopressin to treat depression, 
particularly manic depressive illness?  If it's a diuretic, isn't it 
dangerous, especially for someone who drinks very little water?
        
Any and all comments would be much appreciated.  Thank you!

 

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From: young@serum.kodak.com [Rich Young] (x37176)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: is sugar bad for you?
Date: 23 Jul 92 12:14:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: pixel.1992Jul23.121402.27045
Reply-To: young@serum.kodak.com
Organization: Clinical Products Division, Eastman Kodak Company
Originator: young@sasquatch

In article <KPC.92Jul22225710@zog.arc.nasa.gov> kpc@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov writes:

>is sugar bad for you if you don't get fat from it, other than by
>promoting tooth decay?  can it cause blood sugar problems?  is honey
>any better?

	Sugar (regardless of type) does not cause diabetes or any other
	serious condition UNLESS one is afflicted with one of the relatively
	rare sugar metabolism conditions...usually a result of some
	genetic enzyme deficiency.

>how can its dental effects be minimized (e.g. by brushing within n
>minutes)?

	Dental effects are related to the length of time the sugar is
	directly available to the bacteria on the teeth -- things like
	raisins, which tend to stick to the teeth, are probably more
	detrimental than a glass of one's favorite cola, which washes
	right out.  To minimize sugar's effect on dental caries, then, 
	avoid sugar-filled items that tend to stick to the teeth and gums.

>i heard that once you're past a certain age, cavities are not a
>concern.  can gingivitis, then, be caused by sugar?

	I don't know about the age-related aspect, but gingivitis is
	caused by the action of bacteria which feed on ANY food which is
	trapped in small crevices around the gum line.  To the extent that
	sugar "feeds" these bacteria, I suppose it could be called a "cause",
	but the bacteria grow as well on other media, and are the REAL
	cause of gingivitis; sugar is not the initiating agent.

	On the other hand, I'm not a doctor, so this could all be wrong. :-)

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Don't get angry, get accurate information.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:23:15 EDT
From: <DGS4@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: FDA still at large
 <h2mm4m_.sss@netcom.com> <15889@pitt.UUCP>
 <1992Jul29.172942.16494@gateway.novell.com>

In article <1992Jul29.172942.16494@gateway.novell.com>,
terry@thisbe.npd.Novell.COM (Terry Lambert) says:
>
>        I can not agree with the idea that "expensive" treatments should not
>be used.  Their use encourages both improvement in the procedures (lowering
>cost)
>and developement of alternative procedures to accomplish the same goals (also
>lowering cost).  When the cost reaches common use levels, the treatments
>become
>commonly used.  The United States is a leader in biotechnology precisely      e
>becaus
>of the market-driven bent of our medical system.  Eye glasses and Insulin are

I'd like to see you offer a single piece of evidence that supports this rather
explicit claim.


>two of the many results of this.  If there are to be additions to the list in
>the future, they certainly will not come about in a cost/benefit system of
>socialized medicine.

Funny, but quite a few medical products, drugs,and techniques are
developed in Canada, Germany, Switzerland, the Netherlands, etc., etc.,
Face the facts, there is a continuum of combining market and government
in health care.  Our current combination provides high cost, low access to
most cost-effective procedures for a large percentage of the population,
and extraordinary levels of interference by third parties (both government
and private) in the doctor-patient relationship.  Maybe, it provides faster
technological growth, but that claim has never been proven.
Dennis Shea
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