From: rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich)
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Re: Sin to Heaven?  NO.
Date: 24 Jul 92 01:38:33 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Jul22.143046.5734@iscsvax.uni.edu> marshall1198@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.045813.18106@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, andersom@spot.Colorado.EDU (Marc Anderson) writes:
>> In article <1992Jul20.224215.5691@iscsvax.uni.edu> marshall1198@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>> 
>> So Islamic people are going to your hell for not believing in your god?
>
>They DO believe in my God, but the DON'T believe in my Savior.  They trust in
>some guy who died and DIDN'T rise in three days.  He did come the the
>realization, however, that most of the practices of Christianity at THAT TIME
>just didn't work.  It's good that he could see that.  But I believe he was
>confused when he decided to just create a whole new religion.
>
	OK, once again you are attacking a religion with conflicting beliefs
on the basis of what you believe.  There is ABSOLUTELY no evidence to support
the resurrection of jc (don't quote the bible, we've already determined its
questionability).  I don't think he was confused at all.  I think he just saw
a ridiculous religion and chose to take his own path rather than follow
blindly.  I give him more credit than you.
>> 
>>>DIANETICS IS THE BOOK OF INSTRUCTION FOR SCIENTOLOGY WHICH HAS GONE OUT AND
>>>ATTACKED PEOPLE THAT HAVE LEFT THEIR "RELIGION" FOR CHRIST.  MUCH OF THEIR
>>>TEACHINGS ARE NONSENSE AND FALSE.
>
	And christianity hasn't attacked people who have left?  Many teens, 
unable to make their own religious decisions, are placed in camps against 
their will where christians remove any "cult" influences.
>> 
>
>> 
>>>D  And you're as good as dead.  Pointing out fallicies in christianity is
>>>D  like counting blades of grass.
>>> 
>>>I'M AS GOOD AS DEAD?  ARE YOU COMING AFTER ME OR SOMETHING?  POINTING OUT
>> 
>> We're coming to get you.  Another dead xtian for the cause.  I'm chanting
>> the death mantra right now, you should be dead by the time you read this.
>
>Sure...(giggle)...whatever...
>
	Yeah, you can laugh all you want.  At least his chanting serves a
purpose (release unhealthy aggression), while kneeling down and calling to
an unseen figure is both ridiculous and childish.

>>>YOUR OPPRESSION.  DON'T TELL ME ABOUT THE MONEY SPENT HERE, FOR YOU SPEND THE
>>>SAME MONEY.  HOW LONG WILL I HAVE THE CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH YOU?  WILL NOT THE
>>>POOR ALWAYS BE WITH US?  BLESSED ARE THE POOR IN SPIRIT.  HOW LONG WILL THE
>>>WICKED GO AGAINST GOD.  YOU ARE EITHER FOR OR AGAINST GOD.  HOW LONG WILL YOU
>>>FIGHT AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT?
>> 
>> I don't give money to religious zealots as many of your kind do. I am neither
>> for nor against god.  And I don't fight against the holy spirit, I just
>> laugh at it..  It's funny lookin'.  
>
>If you aren't for Him, then you are against Him.  Simple "hot or cold" thinking
>no lukewarm allowed.  Is that so hard to understand?
>
	Yes.  You are saying that all non-christians are your enemies.  Awfully
bitter aren't we?  Keep following your unseen deity.  Just stay out of our way.
>> 
>>>Evan Marshall
>>>marshall1198@iscsvax.uni.edu
>>>
>>>Proverbs 4:2 "I give you sound learning,
>>>                so do not forsake my teaching."
>> 
>>    "THREE DAYS TO RISE
>>    IF HE LIVES AGAIN HE IS SURE TO DIE
>>    I KILLED JESUS
>>    JUST TO SEE HIM BLEED ON HIS PULPIS THRONE
>>    I AM EVIL!
>>    I'M THE DEICIDE AND I KILLED THE LORD
>>    NO MORE REASONS
>>    I WILL KILL THE WORLD IN ANOTHER FORM"
>> 
>> 	-- Deicide, "Deicide," 1990.
	Good quote.
>
>Ooooo...pretty sickening.  But oh well, I'll live.
>
>> 
>> -marc anderson
>> andersom@spot.colorado.edu
>
>Forever In Christ,
 Forever the Fool,
>Evan Marshall
>marshall1198@iscsvax.uni.edu

	Raymond H. Rich