HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: edwin@cs.ruu.nl (Edwin Kremer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Forms library
Summary: FORMS library is available via anonymous ftp from ftp.cs.ruu.nl
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:42:56 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science

In <1992Oct6.030305.19195@bert.eecs.uic.edu> spiff@bert.eecs.uic.edu
(Jason Leigh) writes:

   | Does anyone know where I can ftp a copy of Mark Overmars' FORMS library?

Time for an refreshing reposting note...


  We, Computer Science department, Utrecht University,  are  running  an
anonymous  FTP  server  on  one  of  our systems. In addition to the FTP
service we're also running a mail  server,  for  those  of  you  without
direct Internet access.


--> How to get 'FORMS library' via anonymous FTP:

    Site:     ftp.cs.ruu.nl  [131.211.80.17]
    Login:    "anonymous" or "ftp"
    Password: your own email address (you@your_domain)
    file:
      /pub/SGI/FORMS/forms2.0.ps.Z
      /pub/SGI/FORMS/forms2.0.tar.Z


--> How to get 'FORMS library' via e-mail from our mail-server:

    NOTE: In the following I have assumed that your mail address is
	  "fred_flintstone@stone.age.edu"; of course you must substitute
	  your own address for this.

	  | Please use a VALID DOMAIN ADDRESS.
	  | Use 'hip!hop!user' if you must.
	  | Never use an address which has both '!' and '@' in it.
	  | Bitnetters use user@host.bitnet


    Send the following message to
		mail-server@cs.ruu.nl
    or the old-fashioned path alternative
		uunet!mcsun!sun4nl!ruuinf!mail-server


    begin
    path fred_flintstone@stone.age.edu (SUBSTITUTE _YOUR_ ADDRESS)
    send SGI/FORMS/forms2.0.ps.Z
    send SGI/FORMS/forms2.0.tar.Z
    end


The path command can be deleted if we receive a valid from address in your
message. If this is the first time you use our mail server, we suggest you
first issue the request:

      send HELP


  A complete "ls-lR" listing of the archive is  kept  in  the  top-level
directory, it will be updated every night. To get it, issue the command:

     send ls-lR.Z



  That's all for now. If you encounter problems using  the  FTP  service
and/or the mail-server, feel free to drop me a line (by e-mail, please).


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: schwitrs@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Charles D. Schwieters)
Subject: Diskless cluster with local swap files
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 18:26:08 GMT



We are considering setting up a cluster of 10 Indigos in a diskless
configuration with local swap and user files. I realize that local
swap files are not officially supported by SGI in the diskless
configuration. The reason for this configuration is for administrative
ease - we will have one part time administrator to maintain all the
machines, so we would like to avoid installing software in and
maintaining 10 machines. At the same time we have no desire to swap
over the network. 

My question is addressed to anyone else who has attempted such a
scheme: have you run into any unforeseen problems? problems with
network latencies? maintainance problems? In addition to a server
and 10 clients, we will have an additional 10 machines on the network.

Please respond by email. I will summarize to the net if there is
sufficient interest.

Thanks in advance..

-- 
--
 Charles D. Schwieters, Grad Student - Chemistry Department
 Princeton University, Princeton, NJ 08544        (609) 258-6361
 Internet: schwieters@chemvax.princeton.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: vulture@carrion.cc.ic.ac.uk (Thomas Sippel - Dau)
Subject: Re: Multiple ethernets & serial ports on indigi ??
Reply-To: cmaae47@cc.ic.ac.uk
Organization: Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 12:44:32 BST

In article <qjpbhrg@zuni.esd.sgi.com>, olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson) writes:

- | [ Len Zaifman ]
- | 
- |     A colleague at a nearby university is buying a Sparc server because
- | he needs two ethernet connections  and up to 8 serial connections. He
- | claims this cannot be done cost effectively, if at all, on an Indigo. 
- | 
- | [ Mark Bartelt ]
- |
- | Dunno about how to deal with the need for a second ethernet, but there are
- | a couple companies around which make multiport serial devices that live on
- | the SCSI bus.  However, I've heard strongly conflicting reports about how
- | well these things work.  Caveat emptor.
- 
- It is certainly true today.  There has been occasional talk of doing
- an ethernet board for the Indigo to fit in the GIO slots, but I don't
- know if this is an official project or not.
-
Well we have "indigoes" with a second Ethernet card on some clusters,
i.e. we paid for an Indigo and got a 4D/30 or /35 as a loaner, until
such time as SGI can deliver an Indigo with a second Ethernet card,
but we are not exactly hassling them ...

I wonder if it was possible to get a driver for toys such as the Xircom
Pocket Ethernet adapter to work over the parallel port. In the advertising
blurb it is called "bi-directional", but I have not yet seen any applications
for it. It would not be a high performance connection in any case, but
could be useful in many.

                                       Thomas
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: dave@rassilon.chem.yale.edu (David Maxwell)
Subject: Re: Complaining about 4.0.Xx
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:55:31 GMT

From article <32814@adm.brl.mil>, by andersen@marvin.ama.ttu.edu (Kim Andersen):
> In article  <1992Sep25.112238.856@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>,  Rodney Hoinkes
> <rodney@dgp.toronto.edu> writes:
> 
>>  When is this crazy state of affairs going
>>  to end?  Will there ever be a 'stable' version of 4.0 without
>>  grand new additional features in minor revisions?
> 
> Hear, hear!  I have not yet upgraded my machines to 4.0.Xx (where X is
> today's number and x is today's letter) because I don't know which
> version I'm supposed to have for my machines or which one will work.
> I thought 4.0.5 was supposed to solve all the problems caused by rushing
> out this OS, but there are now (by my count) at least 7 versions of
> that (a,b,c,d,e,f, and mm)!  And the SGI guys won't TELL us what
> we need until we call up with some bug we've been fighting with for
> WEEKS and they tell us that "Oh, all you need is version 4.0.9bfk12
> to fix that."
> 
> I am not at all impressed with the way SGI has handled this new
> release and I am not going to be installing it until a stable plateau
> has been reached.  3.3.X may be old, but at least it works.
> 
> 
> 
> Kim Andersen
> Crystallography
> Harrington Cancer Center
> andersen@marvin.ama.ttu.edu

I agree that the number of minor revisions seems a little much, but
at least they are being made available.  Other companies make you
wait until the next major OS (two years??) in order to get needed
bug fixes.  I salute SGI for at least trying to satisfy everyone.

-Dave Maxwell (dave@doctor.chem.yale.edu)
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: POSIX on Silicon Graphics ?
Keywords: POSIX posix sgi
Date: 30 Sep 92 01:16:21 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <1992Sep28.152132.19421@odin.corp.sgi.com> raolson@cornflower.wpd.sgi.com (Robert Olson) writes:
| |> 4. Is Silicon Graphics' os like sys5-style or bsd-style unix ?
| |> 
| 
| System V.

But with lots of bsd kernel, library, and command features.
Things like the tty ioctls are definitely SysV oriented.
--
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because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: njr@texhrc.uucp (Nick J. Rees)
Subject: Re: Fortran feature?
Organization: Texaco EPTD
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 14:22:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep24.185032.10003@cc.ic.ac.uk> cmaae47@cc.ic.ac.uk writes:
>In article <1992Sep23.185414.10510@texhrc.uucp>, njr@texhrc.uucp (Nick J. Rees) writes:
>- 
>- Your second solution is similar to the one I employed, but don't
>- forget that Hollerith strings are not part of the X3.9-1978
>- standard, so you still might get a surprise if you used the above
>- verbatim.
>
>Ah, hmm, no and no.
>
>
>Secondly, ANSI X3.9-1978 pp 13-5s and 13-5 lines 34-43 @ 13.5.2 'H Editing'
>
>The Hollerith format was kept on output so that awkward ' escaping can 
>be avoided when necessary.
>
Many thanks for clearing up that point. I had previously looked in
the index and found the only mention of 'Hollerith' (the string :-))
to be in Appendix C.

>Task: Write a 2 line (!) fortran program that prints 
>
>         'for didn't use didn''t'
>
>without using Hollerith formats.
>

What's wrong with this?

      PRINT*,'for didn''t use didn''''t'
      END


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: dave@rassilon.chem.yale.edu (David Maxwell)
Subject: Re: MultiTrack Silences Indigo
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:52:13 GMT

From article <syscrc.717796381@gsusgi1.gsu.edu>, by syscrc@gsusgi1.gsu.edu (Randy Carpenter):
> When I start up multitrack(1) on my Entry-level graphics Indigo (with a mere
> 8 MB memory), the system never comes back...until I hit the RESET button.
> I assume that multitrack(1) is causing the system to page/swap like crazy.
> How much of the system's resources does multitrack(1) need?  The man page
> doesn't say...and none of the SGI guides (I have) seem to have the answer.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -- 
> ===========================================================================
> Randy Carpenter            rcarpent@gsu.edu    $ mkdir matter; cat > matter
> Georgia State University   (404) 651-2648      ksh: matter: cannot create  
> Wells Computer Center                          $

Actually, the 4.0.1 release notes specify that at least 16 Mb of memory
are needed.  Even with 16 Mb, the program could conceivably crash.

-Dave Maxwell (dave@doctor.chem.yale.edu)
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: On-line manual browser [ digital media ]
Date: 30 Sep 92 01:43:18 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <1992Sep28.192317.27928@leland.Stanford.EDU> dhinds@leland.Stanford.EDU (David Hinds) writes:
| The 4.0.5F release also includes some new multimedia stuff (the movie
| stuff) that wasn't on the 4.0.5A CD.  The 4.0.5F CD is marked as being
| specific for R4000 Indigo and Reality Engine systems; does that mean
| that there won't be a general distribution of these tools until the
| next release of IRIX?

I forgot to answer the actual question asked.  Many of the tools in
the digital media part of 4.0.5F depend on one or more features of the
Indigo hardware, nonetheless, some of them run on the other hardware, and
almost all of them will run without some features.

Presumably all will be in our next general release, but I don't
know for sure.  If they are, it is possible that some of them will
be machine tagged, so that they will only install on systems with
the necessary hardware (in the interests of not wasting disk space
on systems where they won't work).
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because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
From: xie@enel.ucalgary.ca (Jingping Xie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Help! How to recover the recently deleted files on Indigo.
Date: 2 Oct 92 01:37:58 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.sgi
Organization: ECE Department, U. of Calgary, Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Hi, net friends:

	I have just made a stupid mistake and accidentally deleted some
of my important source files using rm * -i instead of rm -i * (which
suppose to prompt for verification first).  Does any one know how to
recover the most recently deleted files on Indigo, some kind of commands
similar to pctool's undelete.  Your help is greatly appreciated!
From: scotth@hoshi.corp.sgi.com (Scott Henry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Problem with the display of CDman : <
Date: 1 Oct 92 18:04:11 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc, Mountain View, CA


>>>>> In article <1992Oct1.123501.17962@vlsi.polymtl.ca>, frite@vlsi.polymtl.ca) (Michel Besner) writes:

frite> 	Hi there, 

frite> 	How come the display on my CDman is all black. All the time fields
frite> and the extended display are unreadable :( . Is there a way to change the 
frite> background color ? I didn't find any Xdefaults file for it. 

Do you have lines like

*foreground:    black
*background:    some_color

in your ~/.Xdefaults or ~/.Xresources file? I had that problem until I
discovered that CDman uses .foreground and .backgroundshade (rahter
than .background) resources. The default .backgroundshade is black,
and you told it to use a black foreground, too.

=-=-=
--
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 Networking Services,        / Help! My disclaimer is missing!
 Silicon Graphics, Inc      / GIGO *really* means: Garbage in, Gospel Out
From: azueta@xp.psych.nyu.edu (Steve Azueta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: 3rd Party RAM FAQ
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:30:01 GMT

Thanx for all the replies and pointers!

Steve Azueta	azueta@xp.psych.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: rainer@spot.Colorado.EDU (Rainer Malzbender)
Subject: Maxtor P1-17S compatible with Indigo R4000?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:19:51 GMT

I have a chance to get one of these drives cheap - does anyone know if
it will work with an R4000? It's a 1.7 GB 5 1/4" drive. Thanks for the
help.

This kind of question seems to come up frequently enough that it may be
useful to start a repository of third party information. I'd be willing
to maintain one if such a thing doesn't exist, and if there's interest.

-- 
Rainer Malzbender
Post-doc, Physics
U. of Colorado, Boulder (303)492-1366           rainer@boulder.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: greendog@insti.physics.sunysb.edu (Michael D. Fischer)
Subject: Diskless Indigo R4000
Organization: Institute for Theoretical Physics, SUNY at Stony Brook.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:07:56 GMT

We currently have 5 R3000 indigos; one is the server for the 4 diskless ones.
Next week we are getting a diskless R4000 indigo.
Do I need to set up a new share tree, etc, on the server?
Or can I just set up a new client/swap directory for the new machine?
If I need to set up a new share tree, what CPUBOARD/MACH/GFXBOARD do I
use?  Currently I am using "IP12" and "LIGHT -mSUBGR=LIGHT".  I assume the
R4000 indigo does not fall under IP12...

Michael
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: scotth@hoshi.corp.sgi.com (Scott Henry)
Subject: Re: DGL cannot connnect to X-term.
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:35:50 GMT


>>>>> In article <32870@adm.brl.mil>, LEVINE%FIDLER.decnet@sunman.nwc.navy.mil writes:

LEVINE>         I have set up an X-Terminal (NCD 14c) , the first at
LEVINE> this site, and I cannot get dgl daemon (dgld) to work with it.
LEVINE> Whenever the user attempts to run a program written useing gl,
LEVINE> it hangs for a while then comes up with the following error
LEVINE> messages both on the wsh window and in SYSLOG...

What you want to do won't work. That is because it is an X-Terminal,
not a X&GL-Terminal. To the best of my knowledge, no X-Terminals yet
support dgl. I don't know if any of the GL-clones (IBM, etc) support
dgl, though all IRISes do.

Someday, but not yet.

=-=-=
--
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 Networking Services,        / Help! My disclaimer is missing!
 Silicon Graphics, Inc      / GIGO *really* means: Garbage in, Gospel Out
From: shenkin@avogadro.barnard.columbia.edu (Peter S. Shenkin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: R4k Indigo memory
Date: 4 Oct 92 15:39:51 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Chem, Barnard College, Columbia U, New York
X-Posted-From: avogadro.barnard.columbia.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Oct3.123602.8775@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
 senseman@lucy.brainlab.utsa.edu (David M. Senseman) writes:
>In article <qjomcv4@zuni.esd.sgi.com>
 olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson) writes:

>>.... but one of our marketing folks
>>brought some 3rd party r4k indigo memory into our lab the other day
>>(I honestly don't remember who it was from), and it was a rather
>>strange configuration, that could result in much worse bus loading
>>than our standard SIMMs....

>WOW! After all the effort you guys went to modify the memory structure
>of the r4K Indigo so it could use "standard 72-pin SIMMS" instead of
>the custom memory in the r3K Indigo, I was looking forward to populating
>my new r4K Indigo with "tons" of cheap RAM ....  Now I'm scared to buy it

I have the same reaction.  So three questions:

1.  Dave O. (or anyone else who might know): is there anything you can tell us
    about what such SIMMS should have, so we can make sure they have them?

2.  If I buy Mac memory from MacWarehouse (say), is this going to be reliable,
    or is it likely to be a "strange configuration"?  

    I also had thought that "standard SIMMS" were supposed to work with R4000
    Indigo;  but Dave now seems to be saying that "widely available" does not
    necessarily mean "standard" in this sense.

3.  I do remember that certain SIMMS would not work with the 4d25;  Toshiba
    worked;  Hitachi was not recognised by the startup procedure.  Will SIMM
    configurations that worked with the 4d25 work with the R4000 Indigo?
    Let's assume they're fast enough, for the purpose for this question.  And
    by the way, how fast do they have to be?

	-P.
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*********************** UNIX:  the wave of the present ***********************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: michel@testa.Colorado.EDU (Michel Lesoinne)
Subject: Opening an XWindow at a given position
Keywords: X, Window, Position
Reply-To: michel@testa.Colorado.EDU (Michel Lesoinne)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 07:00:30 GMT

Greetings !
  I have been trying to write a simple X-Winodw program to open
a window of a given size and given origin. I use the X11R4 hint system
and it fails to take the PSize or PPosition hints.
I am aware that X11r3 takes the size and position from the hints
and X11R4 is supposed to take from the values given at the creation of 
the window. However all of them seem to be ingnored.
   I even tried the example from the Xlib Programming Manual (p82 to p88)
that is available by ftp from uunet.uu.net nutshell/xlib/xlibprgs2.tar.Z
basicwin program.
It also fails !

Anybody has a hint ?

Thanks

Michel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: msc@farli.esd.sgi.com (Mark Callow)
Subject: Re: aiff library
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 16:29:20 GMT


In article <1992Oct6.045155.6717@news.iastate.edu>, schrader@pi.eai.iastate.edu writes:
> A couple of months ago I read about a new package that was to be released which would take care
> of the messy details of reading and writing .aiff files.  I believe it was to be called, not so
> suprisingly, aifflib.  Is that available yet and if so at what cost ?

It's called (and has been since its inception) libaudiofile. It makes
the job of reading and writing AIFF and AIFF-C files simple.  It has
been designed in such a way that support for additional audiofile types
can be transparently added in the future.

The library is available as part of the Digitigal Media Developers'
Option (dmdev) which has just MR'ed (which means it has been released
to our manufacturing organization).  Contact John Barco
(barco@esd.sgi.com) for customer availability and pricing information.

	-Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: johnu@syma.sussex.ac.uk (John E. Upham)
Subject: Re: NEW and OLD at miniroot time...?
Organization: University of Sussex
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 20:35:06 GMT

From article <qjoiukk@zuni.esd.sgi.com>, by olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson):
> In <1992Oct2.120602.1124@syma.sussex.ac.uk> johnu@syma.sussex.ac.uk (John E. Upham) writes:
> 
> | When using miniroot to install sofware I've noticed things appear to
> | have 'Newer version installed' and 'Older version installed' at the
> | same time for the same bit of software. In other words, you see
> |  both 'N' and 'X' in the same column. What does this mean ?
> 
> A confused installation history, usually.  3.3.X was particularly
> bad about this, and 4.0.X got much better, but still not perfect,
> particularly with maint images.

 As I thought. What is the advise as to deal with this situation ?

 john upham
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