HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: joltes@husc10.harvard.edu (Richard Joltes)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Knives and Pennies
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:19:55 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <C12AtH.5qG.1@cs.cmu.edu> rhuss+@EDRC.CMU.EDU (Robert Huss) writes:

[regarding knives sent as gifts, and the significance of the penny]

>	What I've heard is that if you get a sharp knife as a gift, 
>you are to send the giver a penny.  This somehow insures that you will
>not cut yourself with it.. maybe not cut the friendship either, I don't know.
>I just know that my wife and I sent pennies to those who gave us knives
>as wedding gifts. I'll look into it more

When Kris and I were married a close friend gave us two Henckels kitchen knives
as a wedding present (great knives, btw, but expensive!).  He included the
penny and a note describing the reason for it.  The note read (paraphrased)

"it is said that knives are poor gifts because they are symbols of severing,
and gifts are supposed to bring people closer together.  Therefore I am 
including this penny, which you should return to me sometime soon as payment
for the knives.  If you give me the penny then you are not receiving knives as
a gift:  you are buying knives."

Not sure of the origins of this, but it's a neat bit of reasoning.  A good
source to check might be one of the books on symbolism of everyday objects,
but sadly I don't have any of them in my collection (yet).

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Dick "catching up on AFU..." Joltes			joltes@husc.harvard.edu
Hardware & Networking Manager, Computer Services 	joltes@husc.bitnet 
Harvard University Science Center

"Mind you, not as bad as the night Archie Pettigrew ate some
sheep's testicles for a bet...God, that bloody sheep kicked him..."
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Phone Calls at 2/3 the Speed of Light
From: hugh@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Hugh Grierson)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 21:56:38 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

>Wayne McDougall (system@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz) wrote:
>: > She sure was a neat lady.
>: > 
>: We're talking about the person who invented CoBOL here. I believe she has
>: her own special room in hell.

No, not her own special room.  She shares one with all the
accordian and bagpipe players.

ObUL: COBOL was written as a joke.

Hugh "get it?" Grierson
-- 
Hugh Grierson          Fujitsu/ICL New Zealand - Software Development Centre
hugh@nezsdc.icl.co.nz                Speaking for myself only.  See figure 1.
From: slb3y@cc.usu.edu (Punk Rocketeer)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Bambi meets Godzilla.
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:44:51 GMT
Organization: Omega:  The Final Solution

In article <1993Jan26.221111.22395@kronos.arc.nasa.gov>,
howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John Howells) writes:
> derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
> 
> <The well known film 'Bambi meets Godzilla' just came up in conversation.
> 
> It's available on Rhino Video. I own a copy. It also includes a number
> of other memorable weird cartoons, one of which is a Max Fleischer Betty
> Boop.

     It's also available on some copies of "Godzilla 1985" as an
introductory short.  I don't recall seeing it billed on the box when I
last rented it, but I'm fairly sure I've rented Bambi-free copies of
such in the past.
-- 
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Email is life!   | --Calvin 
Utah State University doesn't care what I put here . . . I hope.
From: derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: AFU REALLY REALLY WAY SOUTH - Re: AFU EAST
Date: 24 Jan 93 23:25:12 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

In article <1993Jan20.194552.15086@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <C15xK6.F7n@polaris.async.vt.edu> jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu (Joel Furr) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan20.141140.5333@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>>In article <C15M20.D3C@polaris.async.vt.edu> jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu (Joel Furr) writes:
>>>>
>>>>I propose AFU EAST should be held sometime in March, preferably around the
>>>>15th, in Pittsburgh.  Anyone interested?
>>>
>>>That's the middle of finals for me.  
>>>
>>>When or where is AFU Midwest?
>>
>>Well, Ted, we can be flexible.  How's mid-February?  Say, Saturday,
>>February 20, 1993?  
>
>Furrfu, is a.f.u going to rent a Concorde so we can get the whole
>bicoastal thing going?
>

If you can get that Concorde for a couple of days we could organise an 
AFU really really way south here in New Zealand.

Such events as Coriolis testing<TM>, blind Vegemite/Marmite/Promite taste
testing etc.

Delicacies such as Pakeha and Puha, and Kiore will be on the menu.
As well as AFU chicken mole (tastes like chicken and contains garlic and 
chocolate).

There will also be a "Who invented Pavlova?" competition between a team of 
Australians and a team of Kiwis.  

ObUL: We are now in the Chinese year of the 'tastes like chicken'

Derek "Any takers" Tearne


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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
Subject: Re:    # and * on telephone
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:34:58 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <93024.112950MIWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>, <MIWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
> An old girlfriend told me that the phone company first put the # and *
> buttons on the first push button telephones for the purposes of national
> defense. The tones they made could supposedly free up a phone line and allow
> a call to go through even if there were no open lines. Somebody else's
> non-priority call would simply get disconnected.

Nope.  First of all, the first Touch-Tone (then a trademark) phones
didn't have those buttons; the ``0'' was alone in its row.  Second,
the buttons were added because it was very cheap to do so, given the
way the dial pad was implemented.  Each row and each column is associated
with a tone of a particular frequency; it's the combination of the two
frequencies that is detected.  Each button, therefore, turns on both
a row tone generator and a column tone generator; supporting * and #
is simply a matter of a little bit of plastic, since the columns already
exist, and the row had to exist to support the 0 key.

Third, the priority tones are generated by a *fourth* column which
doesn't exist on most phones.  But the regular phone network doesn't
recognize those tones; they're only used on AUTOVON, the DoD phone
network.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
Subject: Re: Discovering America (was British Constitution)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 05:17:30 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <1993Jan22.194943.29438@cbnewsd.cb.att.com>, barth@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (barth.richards) writes:
> 
> In article <1993Jan21.200126.4494@nezsdc.icl.co.nz> derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz
> (Derek Tearne) writes:
> 
> >I suggest you read your history books.  Columbus didn't discover America!
> >
> >Apart from the Native Americans who wandered over there _way_ before Columbus
> >was a gleam in his very great-grandsires eye, There was this viking got 
> >there too - Leif Ericson I think his name was.  Or was it Steinar?
> 
> There is some evidence to suggest that there were "old world" interactions
> with the Native Americans long before that.  Check out the book AMERICA
> B.C. by Barry Fell.  I know that his position is pretty controversial, but
> he presents a lot (I mean a *lot*) of interesting archeological and
> linguistic evidence that suggests that all sorts of people from Europe and
> the Middle East were popping in on Pocahontas's ancestors for many hundreds
> of years before either Columbus or Erikson arrived here.

But little or none of that matters.  See what Daniel Boorstin has to say
in ``The Discoverers''.  He points out that in a strong sense, it doesn't
matter what Leif Erikson did, because nothing was ever done with it.
That is, his voyages had little or no lasting effect on either the Norse
or the Native American culture.  Columbus's voyage, on the other hand,
completely changed the world (for better and worse, of course).

Actually, even if you don't care about Columbus per se, go read Boorstin's
book anyway.  It's got all sorts of fascinating tidbits, like why the
Chinese stopped their voyages of exploration.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: parking meter nun smash
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 04:13:03 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.040208.21633@samba.oit.unc.edu> Bruce.Tindall@launchpad.unc.edu (Bruce Tindall) writes:
>I went to high school with Ogden Nash's grandson, Nicholas Eberstadt,

I lived in the same college dormitory as Bernie Goetz's lawyer's son.

Has anyone else gone to school with a famous person's progeny, or knows
someone who has?

Ted "doesn't Progeny steal data off your hard drive?" Frank 
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,in.bizarre,alt.conspiracy
From: mphall@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (Michael Hall)
Subject: Re: Hepatitis and Taco Bell Scare.
Keywords: hepatitis beans shit Taco Bell savage humor
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:40:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.210842.13855@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bwatson@nyx.cs.du.edu (bruce watson) writes:
>In article <C12tFz.Hn@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> mphall@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (Michael Hall) writes:
>>	Here in Bloomington, Indiana we have been experiencing a small
>>epidemic of hepatitis.
>
>Interesting, we're having one in Denver, too. But it started at a
>caterer's not Taco Bell. I wonder how many other cities are involved.
>
>
Why do you think I x-posted to alt.conspiracy?  My money's on MANY MANY
others and a probable link to the Bilderbergs.  Or the Rothschilds.

-Mike

-- 
Michael Hall
mphall@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: vince@cadence.com (Vince Gibboni)
Subject: Re: AMUSING SIGNS
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:34:55 GMT

    I still like:

        "Old Man Viewing Next Two Exits"

    (Near the old-man-in-the-mountain thing somewhere in the part of New
    Hampshire you only get to when your lost).


    And, I still giggle uncontrolably at the "Entering Sharon" sign in
    Sharon, Vermont, but I'm beginning to suspect that this is just a 
    personal problem and can probably be controlled with medication.

    
    
--
                                                         vince@gda.cadence.com

    "If Thomas Jefferson were alive today, I'd appoint him secretary of 
    Education." - Bill Clinton                 (I'm not making this up).
From: dmp1@ukc.ac.uk (D.M.Procida)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Yet More Microwave Stuff
Summary: Two piglets, and one in the oven.
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:35:09 GMT
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

Here's a worthwhile twist on the poodle-in-the-microwave stories:

a Canadian researcher has devised a treatment for newborn piglets at
risk from hypothermia which involves, yes, putting them in a microwave
oven.  Apparently, newly born piglets cannot regulate their body
temperature adequately, and 'over half' the deaths of such piglets can
be attributed to hypothermia. 

Traditional infrared heaters cost more to run and are less effective,
and the microwave heaters have revived piglets with a temperature of 
25C- 14 C below their normal body temperature. 

The microwave heaters operate at 915 MHz, as opposed to the 2450 MHz of
poddle-drying egg-exploding sperm-destroying pantie-disinfecting kitchen
microwave appliances.  These lower frequency microwaves penetrate almost
twice as deep into the tissues, and cthe piglets an be warmed by 1 C per
minute 'with no ill effects'. 

A 'weaner deck' has also been developed which continuously irradiates
the piglets for the next four weeks of their lives, thus providing them
with extra heat at a stage when cold stress is likely to inhibit their
growth.  'No adverse effects have been found in the pigs or their
offspring. 

ObReferences: The researcher is one Luis Bate, of the Atlantic
Veterinary College in Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island.  A company
called D'Ossone Canada has been set up to make the microwave machines
and intends to have them on the market in about a year.  The article I
plagiarized is on page 19 of the January 23rd 1993 issue of _New
Scientist_. 

Daniele "Bringing home the bacon, and putting it in the oven *while
still alive*!" Procida

PS.  I'm not quite sure if my articles are getting out properly.  If one
of the Terries perhaps, or a pantoflard or other old hat would be so
kind as to drop me a note to reassure me I'd be very grateful.  It will
mean that it won't be necessary for me to execute the officials and
technicians of the computing services here.  I'm still wondering if my
article last week on a KKK cigarette conspiracy theory ever got
anywhere...
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: userDHAL@mts.ucs.UAlberta.CA (David Halliwell)
Subject: Re: coriollis effect and Foucalt pendulums (and the UN)
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:01:41 GMT

dannyb@panix.com (Daniel Burstein) writes:

>>a gadget called a Foucalt pendulum. (See the lab manual to the afore-
>                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>mentioned freshman physics text.)


>just fyi, the UN building in NYC has a Foucalt (sp?) pendulum swinging
>from the roof rafters, and, yes, it does do all those funny things that
>the various laws of physics say it should.

>question: does anyone know of any others on display?


    The Herzberg Building (which houses the physics department) at
Carleton University, in Ottawa, Canada. Kind of neat to go in and
out of the building for classes at various times of the week, and
see the pendulum at different positions.


Dave Halliwell
Department of Geography
University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta
From: jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Coors rumors (Re: Snapple linked to KKK, Operation Rescue?)
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:20:00 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

In article <1993Jan21.101302.16110@pony.Ingres.COM> sweeney@Ingres.COM (Tony Sweeney) writes:
>In article <r9h3-zn@rpi.edu> kollur@jec328.its.rpi.edu (Ramana Kolluri) writes:
>> 
>>My question: What are these "supposed sins" of Coors Brewing Company?
>>Anyone out there know anything ?
>>
>Well  there's bankrolling the Republican Party, for a start off.
>That and passing off the swill thy sell as beer.

I'll give kudos for supporting the GOP, but you're right about the beer.
I'm convinced Coors was who Monty Python had in mind when they joked 
"Why is American beer like making love in a canoe? Because they're both 
f**cking close to water."
-- 
John Switzer               | Switzer's Suicide Prevention Tip of the Week:
                           | 
Compuserve: 74076,1250     | Don't buy three Reba McEntire tapes and listen 
Internet: jrs@netcom.com   | to them all on the same cloudy afternoon.
From: dkelly@bio4.acpub.duke.edu (Diane Kelly)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Amusing street names
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:52:48 GMT
Reply-To: dkelly@bio4.acpub.duke.edu (Diane Kelly)


Herein Durham, NC there is a very small street called "Wa wa" street.  I
have no idea why.  Perhaps named for the famous Gilda Radner character
Baba Wawa?

						Jim Cambias
						Misusing the Equipment
						at Duke Bio
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: rhuss+@EDRC.CMU.EDU (Robert Huss)
Subject: Re: AFU EAST
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:47:12 GMT

In article <C17MEx.HoG@polaris.async.vt.edu>, jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu (Joel Furr) writes:

|> 
|> We're working on an AFU East in Pittsburgh and an AFU Southeast in
|> Raleigh/Durham, North Carolina.  I'd like one to be held in February and
|> one in March.  If you're interested, reply to this post and say so.

	I am up for a Pittsburgh AFU east anytime.  As far as I'm concerned
Pittsburgh is an ideal location.  Heck, if you want to hold AFU West, AFU 
Southeast, or AFU Great White North in Pittsburgh, I'll be there!
	Yo! Terry! (tjw)  What about you? Don't you think Pittsburgh is a
great location?

Bob "The One Bob" Huss

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
Subject: Re: Chocolate Protein Content
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:41:11 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Keywords: chocolate cockroaches

In article <1993Jan26.181523.13546@watson.ibm.com>, motani@watson.ibm.com writes:
> Somebody claimed that the North American
> regulating agencies actually allow a certain level of cockroach material in
> chocolate products since roaches are common in storage areas where there is
> cocoa powder. Can anybody confirm this and cite allowable levels in the US and
> Canada with references?

It's certainly true that the U.S. FDA has ``defect tolerance levels'' --
limits on the number of insect parts, rodent hairs, etc., allowed in
various food products.  It's not just the storage areas; it's a recognition
that with, say, grain products, there are likely to be beasties living
the grain as it's harvested.  But yes, they do allow for some limited
amount of contamination during storage and processing (see, for example,
the limits for fish).

My source for all this is Consumer Reports; see more or less any of
their food ratings.  The bit about fish came from a story on tuna, as
I recall.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: pt@geovision.gvc.com (Paul Tomblin)
Subject: Re: Gotham (not Batman)
Reply-To: pt@geovision.gvc.com
Organization: Not officially GeoVision Systems Inc., Ottawa, Ontario
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:21:38 GMT

01ksdavis@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Rebel without a pause.) writes:
>	Also, another thing.  It doesn't really take a genius to figure out
>who Batman is on the show.  Just look at the chin!  Come on, how many heroes
>actually have big chins?  A friend of mine told me that it wasn't Bruce Wayne,
>but actually Jay Leno.

Geez - there's a scary thought: Brian Mulroney, Superhero.  Champion of
Truth, Justice, and the North American Free Trade Deal!
-- 
Paul Tomblin (pt@compass.gvc.com) I don't make or state policy for GeoVision.
Usenet, n:
An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making
a disagreeable person keep his distance. -- Paraphrased from Ambrose Bierce.
From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Mnemonics & Now - Burning Mines
Date: 27 Jan 93 08:13:02 GMT
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

bwilson@austin.ibm.com (Brad Wilson) writes:
  +
  +> Now, I have a question about burning mines - I have heard a story about
   [details deleted]


system@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall) writes:
  +
  +That doesn't seem likely, since coal mines are usually sealed [rather than
  +flooded these days, as flooding causes too much damage) to deprive the fire
  +of oxygen.  [other stuff deleted]

Uh, Wayne, much as we appreciate your thoughts, but you know, Brad
posted this in December, and two famous people I know (well, maybe
1.5), Larry Doering and Derek Tearne posted replies on mines in
Centralia, PA and the UK dated 11 December 1992 and 13 December 1992,
respectively.  Are you having like, a really slow feed down there?
I realize that Derek and Hugh were hogging all the bandwidth down 
there, but seriously!


Terry "Then again, maybe this thread was just smoldering" Chan
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Energy and Environment Division   | Internet:  TWChan@lbl.gov
Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory      | 
Berkeley, California  USA  94720  | Yeah, right.
Xref: sparky alt.folklore.urban:35103 alt.folklore.college:3493
From: porges@beretta.camb.inmet.com (Don Porges)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Tuition Refund
Date: 28 Jan 93 16:47:06 GMT
Organization: Intermetrics Inc.

In article <1993Jan23.000411.4060@beaver.cs.washington.edu> graham@cs.washington.edu (Stephen Graham) writes:
>
>My father was a graduate student in sociology during Spring Semester 1970
>at Kent State University in Ohio. 

God, I feel old.
-- 
					-- Don Porges
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					..uunet!inmet!porges
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.music.misc
From: jhenders@wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders)
Subject: Re: 54-40..what does their name mean?
Organization: Wimsey Information Services
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:52:41 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.220739.1686@netcom.com> hatunen@netcom.com (David W Hatunen) writes:

>It would have been kind of nice to have Vancouver BC
>in the States though.

    For you, maybe. ;-)

	John Henders
	Vancouver, BC.

-- 
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jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca      <1992May11.073237.14684@rotag.mi.org>
 T.K.O.O.C.C                      kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy)
From: VBCSC03L@VAX.CSUN.EDU (snopes)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Up the butt, Bob
Date: 21 Jan 1993 23:25:49 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

  mccauley@vaxr.llnl.gov writes . . .

>If Eubanks and company are denying the episode, there could be several 
>reasons.  Eubanks treated both the man and woman rather shabbily, made fun 
>of them and generally wasn't nice.  Could be there was a lawsuit over it.
>Perhaps settled, perhaps not.  But, the terms of settlement could include 
>never mentioning the incident or denying it happened.  Stranger things have 
>happened.

  Hmm . . . Bob Eubanks is prevented by the terms of a settlement from
  discussing or even affirming the incident, so he instead takes to the
  airwaves and dares people to come up with a tape, even going so far as to 
  offer a substantial reward for it.  Sounds improbable to me.

 - snopes

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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal)
Subject: Re: Cuttin' the Rug
Date: 24 Jan 93 04:43:20 GMT

Bruce.Tindall@launchpad.unc.edu (Bruce Tindall) writes:
[re including an error in weaving because only Allah is perfect, has anyone
pointed out:]
>that the whole practice is rather blasphemously arrogant
>because it assumes that the rug-maker would have made a perfect rug
>if he hadn't introduced the deliberate error?

Perhaps the idea is that it assumes that the rug-maker might have THOUGHT that
s/he made a perfect rug if not for the deliberate error.  That is, if you make
a deliberate error, you're obviously not claiming that the rug is perfect.  If
you don't, perhaps your production of the rug might be considered to be a claim
of perfection.  Of course the rug is not perfect because it was you who made
it.  The blasphemy is in the CLAIM of perfection.  The practice does not
necessarily assume that the rug-maker would have made a perfect rug if not for
the deliberate error.

--
Alan "splits his hairs by using alkaline shampoo" Rosenthal
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.discordia,alt.slack