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From: v003nnc3@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (PHIL)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Favorites from Master of Puppets
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:22:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr15.055421.13260@sfu.ca>, itreleav@fraser.sfu.ca (Ian Anthony Treleaven) writes...
>Since Master of Puppets looks pretty popular, are there any favorites from
>it?  I really like Welcome Home (Sanitarium) - of course, but also
>The Thing that Should Not Be.
>-- 
>_______________________________________________________________________________
>  Ian Treleaven            | No matter where you go, there you are.
>  itreleav@sfu.ca          |                                   -Buckaroo Banzai

Well, personally I like Diposable Heroes.  And to let you all know, those who  cut
down Metallica (i.e. their new album) are not real Metallica fans.  Please
people, could you see James, Kirk, Lars, and Jason doing a dance remix
album?PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Until tomorrow. 
You'll do as I say, when  I  say  back to the front
					METALLICA
From: jtucker@cs.utk.edu (JAMES WILLIAM TUCKER)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Japanese Metallica Album
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:02:31 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - CS Department
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    Does anyone know any good mail order dealers I could order the 
import version of Metallica's new album? I really want to have the
extra track but no one around here seems to have it. 


jtucker@cs.utk.edu

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: se020151@seas.gwu.edu (Hyok Lee)
Subject: Re: longer, tiresome, complicated poll
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 19:28:23 GMT


bewillia@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Maj. Devon McKnight) writes:
: In article <rhk27INNa85@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> jasper@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Keith A French) writes:
: >>> Which band member did/do you have the most respect for?
: >>> 
: >>> [ ] 	Dave Mustaine
: >>> [ ] 	Cliff Burton
: >>> [ ]	Jason Neusted
: >>> [ ]	Kirk Hammet
: >>> [ ]	Lars Ulrich
: >>> [ ]	James Hetfield
: >
: >Get the picture? =)
: >
: 
: 	Aw, c'mon. If you had seen Hetfield chain-puking at Kalamazoo, MI
: I think you'd change your mind... ;-)
: 	Oh, my 2 cents? Lars. 

Here's my vote and I number them in the order of reverence.

[1]     El Duce
[2]     Dave Mustaine
[6]     Cliff Burton
[7]     Jason Newstead
[8]     Kirk Hammet
[9]     Lars Ulrich
[10]    James Hetfield--
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From: jtguttadauro@amherst.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Quick poll
Date: 27 Mar 92 06:45:09 GMT
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst, MA.

In article <1992Mar25.215008.4986@bsu-ucs.uucp>, 00drcampbell@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
> Quick poll here: Who likes the old stuff they did better than the new?
> 
> Just fill out this quick ballot:
> 
> [x] Old (much more!!!!!)
> 
> [] New
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: bewillia@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Maj. Devon McKnight)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: longer, tiresome, complicated poll
Date: 8 Apr 92 03:05:10 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY

In article <rhk27INNa85@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> jasper@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Keith A French) writes:
>>> Which band member did/do you have the most respect for?
>>> 
>>> [ ] 	Dave Mustaine
>>> [ ] 	Cliff Burton
>>> [ ]	Jason Neusted
>>> [ ]	Kirk Hammet
>>> [ ]	Lars Ulrich
>>> [ ]	James Hetfield
>
>Get the picture? =)
>

	Aw, c'mon. If you had seen Hetfield chain-puking at Kalamazoo, MI
I think you'd change your mind... ;-)
	Oh, my 2 cents? Lars.
From: littaum@nyssa.CS.ORST.EDU (Mike Littau)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Japanese Black Album
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:40:02 GMT
Organization: CS Dept. Oregon State University, Corvallis, Oregon.

In article <1992Apr9.000310.15094@talon.ucs.orst.edu> bostrov@eris.wtfd.orst.edu (Vareck Bostrom) writes:
>I've got a copy. There is one extra track, "So What", which is IMHO 
>the best track on the album. Here are the lyrics, in case anyone cares:
>
>And I've fucked a sheep, I've fucked a goat
>I rammed my cock right down it's throat
>
[Lyrics deleted for space]

>So fucking what yeah
>

....and the way some people have been putting down metallica lately you'd think
that they'd rather cover a Barry Manilow tune.  Of course, they didn't put on 
that extra track on the U.S. release, so . . .
From: butterwo@cs.tulane.edu (Blake Butterworth)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Metallica Dance Mix
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:59:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr15.205908.6741
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In article <1992Apr15.185922.13778@sfu.ca>, terryj@currant.csil.sfu.ca (Terry Olan Jones) writes:
> According to a book we get at work (a record store), Metallica has a re-mix
> album in the works:
> "... Danzer's Eve (Metallica). Will contain remix versions of many songs with
> leads toned down, and drums changed to a steadier more danceable rhythm. Many
> songs are slower. Contains Unforgiven (no solo), Nothing Else Matters, Enter
> Sandman, Dyer's Eve (slower), One (no solo), Battery (slower, new guitar with
> less distortion), and others. Designed to appeal to new Metallica fans and
> dance clubs, will probably be a very good seller..."
>
> Hmmmm.
>

    Coooo..elle.  Boy howdy, I just can't wait to get my hands on this album.
Thanks for letting me and everyone else know!!!  I always did hate the fast
double-bass action on Dyer's Eve...now maybe I can really enjoy the song.


Blake






P.S. Just joking
From: jks2x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Jason K. Schechner)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: The next video...?
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:34:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: murdoch.1992Apr16.003457.3063
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <92106.125347GJB113@psuvm.psu.edu> GJB113@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>
>    I heard somewhere on MTV that Metallica was busy working on their next
> video. Anyone out there know what it is? My vote would be for "Sad But True".
> After that we would see all the 10 year old girls and posers regret the day
> they started liking Metallica, and leave us true fans in peace.
>
>                                                   -Greg Blickley

	I doubt Sad But True would have this effect.  I think it would
take nothing less than a video for Battery or Damage inc to convince
these bandwagoners that there's more to MetallicA than just NEM and
Enter Sandman.  However the LAST thing I want to see is more videos
from them, especially for older (read as: superior) stuff like MOP, 
which is my favorite album of all time (in fact - it's playing in my 
room right now.)
	Man - it's great to finally be getting back to talking about 
music.  
	BTW:  I see no problem with sharing Metallica stories on this
newsgroup.  Someone posted today bitching about a Metallica story that
got posted.  That's part of the point of this group. 

-Jason
--
"One day I'll get what's mine through the persistence of time"
						    -Anthrax 'Time'
From: ak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Kendric Beachey)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: am i evil?
Date: 13 Apr 1992 00:09:11 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu


I DON'T FUCKING BELIEVE IT!!!!
I sit down to six whole articles in alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica,
which is a pretty good high number for this group, and five of the six
articles are by two fuckheads that the rest of the world wishes would
shrivel up and die!!!!!!!

Fuck it...I'm switching to nn so I can have authors included in my
kill file.

(By the way, Hyok and Suaron, that means you don't need to bother
flaming me in return, since I'm not gonna see your shit.)

-- 
|  Kendric Beachey a.k.a. A. K.                                               | 
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: dave@iastate.edu (David C Rossow)
Subject: Re: Metallica Dance Mix
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 05:48:50 GMT

In <1992Apr15.185922.13778@sfu.ca> terryj@currant.csil.sfu.ca (Terry Olan Jones) writes:

>According to a book we get at work (a record store), Metallica has a re-mix  
>album in the works:
>"... Danzer's Eve (Metallica). Will contain remix versions of many songs with  
>leads toned down, and drums changed to a steadier more danceable rhythm. Many  
>songs are slower. Contains Unforgiven (no solo), Nothing Else Matters, Enter  
>Sandman, Dyer's Eve (slower), One (no solo), Battery (slower, new guitar with  
>less distortion), and others. Designed to appeal to new Metallica fans and  
>dance clubs, will probably be a very good seller..."

>Hmmmm.

I smell Bull Shit.  I'll believe it >IF< I see it. (but i wouldnt buy it)

		- Cannot the Kingdom of Salvation take me home





























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From: redfreak@softcopy.ecn.purdue.edu (Thomas Lobonc)
Subject: flames on
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:43:37 GMT

If Metallica- a "respected" metal band is great music, then so is the sound
of a bouncing basketball.  Mostly what you get from Metallica is Queen
without songs.  Dumb, dimensionless, old (an obscure group called High Tide
was doing this stuff in 1969) one chord (minor) riffs over which a "singer"
shouts simple-minded admonitions of doom, threats, alienation, and/or
retribution for some unspecified wrong- like being born.  The relentless
rhythm is that of carpenters banging nails into two by fours. ... Occasionally,
Metallica dares chordal modulation, and what you get is laughably inept.  When
the band has nothing to say, it fills space by dropping simple menacing guitar
bombs in the form of cliche'd wah-wah pedal runs and rhythm guitar fills.  They
CAN play in the context of the genre, and in that context they kick pretty hard.

Well...
The above appeared in a reviev of Guns-n-Roses latest.  The magazine is
a high-end stereo review magazine (the editor's system probably costs over
$100,000.00 yes, 100G's) that also reviews albums.  I don't know why they
even bothered to review GnR (most of their readers listen to classical, jazz,
and acoustic music).  But the statements above really pissed me off.

So I need help.  I want to trash the reviewer, but the letter will never
be published unless it is educated and proves he is wrong.  Since I know
very little about the specifics of music, 
I am asking you musicians who play Metallica to provide me with some examples
to prove the reviewer wrong. (eg the time changes in blackened, songs that
don't fit the musical description (and how) , etc.) I can handle the lyrics
part myself.

Send any useful info via e-mail.
Tom

By the way, there were 3 reviews of the G-n-R discs.   
Reviewer 1: "The stuff I loathed so much on the Appetite album was like the
soothing sound of the surf compared to the hideously annoying noise contained
on these two discs" (He DOES like Metallica, made some favorable remarks about
MoP a while back)
Reviewer 2 (the one who slammed Metallica) He kind of likes them (some parts)
Reviewer 3: "Certainly these guys don't resemble any number of the formulaic
hard rock bands like those bookends Cinderella or Poison"  He kind of likes
them also

All three agreed that the two albums (on LP) were some of the best sounding
(sound quality) rock albums ever made.  Hmm, I might have to check that out.

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: redfreak@softcopy.ecn.purdue.edu (Thomas Lobonc)
Subject: Re: sheep
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:59:45 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.021600.25540@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Kevin.J.Feury@dartmouth.edu (Kevin J. Feury) writes:
>In article <1992Apr9.172201.16708@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>
>redfreak@softcopy.ecn.purdue.edu (Thomas Lobonc) writes:
>
>> In article <1992Apr7.222103.15016@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Kevin.J.Feury@dartmouth.edu (Kevin J. Feury) writes:
>> >In article <1992Apr6.212110.21424@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>
>> >redfreak@softcopy.ecn.purdue.edu (Thomas Lobonc) writes:
>> cymbals and snare drum sound "digital" (harsh, edgy, unnatural, etc.)
>> Jamesssssss vocalsssssss ssssssound terrible anytime he ssssssings an ssssss
>> sssssssound.  This is caused by too hot of a mix.  Maybe that ssssssnake
>> on the cover is appropriate!  
>
>i wish i had a recording that sounded like that. it almost sounds
>interesting to listen to.

If you want to send me a tape (good quality, of course) I could tape it for
you.  Much of what I hear is preserved on tape.  I could also record a few
other songs for comparison.  Let me know via e-mail. Attention taping police!

>> I just wish they could get their sound right (Garage Days) 

>about 'garage days', do yo mean that you like that sound or not? i

It is the best sound I have heard from any metal/thrash album.

>think it's pretty neat, even though the production is minimal.

That's probably why it sounds so good.
I think the same approach was used on Testament's Practice What You Preach,
but it does not sound as good as Garage Days Re-Re.

If anyone still listens to records, the Music for Nations releases of
KeA, and RTL (2 records, 45rpm DMM) are not bad. There are some Slayer albums
available in this format also. Look for the 6 EP box set on Vertigo.  Sound
is not the greatest (the GD here is not as good as the original), but it's
a killer set with all the B side stuff and some live stuff you never hear.
It's in a black cover; I think it's called the 10th Anniversary EP Collection.
Maybe it's available on CD. (confused? the box set is by Metallica)

Tom
From: 00cewilkison@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: FAGS 'N CLOSETS
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:37:55 GMT

ssorry i disturbed you fags fags
noe get the fuck back in the closet!

"IF GOD WANTED US TO BE GAY HE WOULDN'T HAVE MADE EVE"
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: se020151@seas.gwu.edu (Hyok Lee)
Subject: Re: am i evil?
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 17:16:38 GMT


redfreak@softcopy.ecn.purdue.edu (Thomas Lobonc) writes:
: In article <1992Apr5.101428.29265@seas.gwu.edu> se020151@seas.gwu.edu (Hyok Lee) writes:
: >
: >This posting have no business in this newsgroup. It belong in
: >alt.rock-n-roll.diamondhead.  Any idiot knows that metallica stole
: >the great diamondhead song.  If you ask me, they did great disservice to
: >Diamondhead.  It's even worse than the Crue's Anarchy.  I have only
: >one thing to say to garbage like you:  ....fucking destrooooyyyyyy....
: >     ***************************************************************
: >     * Hyok Lee    George Washington University, SEAS              *
: 
: I have the Diamondhead album with Am I Evil on it, and it SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!
: I am new to this newsgroup, but from what I have read, Hyok must be brain
: dead.  Go jack off to Axl's picture in Circus, Hyok.

--
You obviously have no taste in music.  If Metalfucka thought it was so 
bad, then why did they cover it and butcher it like they did?
Even worse than the trash being but out Metallick-my-ass is will-less
slaves like you who eagerly swallow up anything this band puts out.
They ran out creativity as soon as Mustaine's influence wore off.
The only good metal right now is being put out by Megadeth, Slayer and
Mentors.  So, why don't you just go suck on Hetfield's cock--that's what
you are doing by buying his shit.  Shit-for-brains like you should
be burned alive, you thankless little bitch...all blistered and burnt..
can't hide my scorn.

     * Hyok Lee    George Washington University, SEAS              *
     *                                                             *
From: exurln@avata.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Bob Netherton)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: am i evil?
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:40:11 GMT
Reply-To: exurln@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Apr8.161311.2730@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, redfreak@softcopy.ecn.purdue.edu (Thomas Lobonc) writes:
|> I have the Diamondhead album with Am I Evil on it, and it SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!

What is it about the album that you don't like ?

-- 
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From: Kevin.J.Feury@dartmouth.edu (Kevin J. Feury)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Here's a scaaaary thought:
Date: 15 Apr 92 01:09:48 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <13191@bwdls58.bnr.ca>
ingmarsl@bcarh136.BNR.CA (Ingmar Slomic) writes:

> Now for the scary part: what if he did Enter Sandman?

if you listen to the whole album, when he does his polka thing (as on
every other album) he actually does break in on 'sandman' with a short
rendition of the chorus...it's hilarious.

-kev.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: jks2x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Jason)
Subject: Re: Bandwagon Metallica Fucks
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 22:30:18 GMT


[babbling deleted]

>I'm glad someone said this.  I'm so tired of people who refuse to listen to
>a band just because they are now popular.  As long as you like it, what does
>it matter who else does?  
>
>Isn't this the same music that you have loved for years and tried to tell
>people how great it is?  Well now they are listening to it.  "Your" band is
>now getting the recognition they deserve. So whats the problem?

	The problem is that it ISN'T the same music.  Most of us here
aren't irritated because many more people like Metallica.  I think
it's great that the guys are getting filthy rich.  The deserve it more
than any other group out there I can think of.  What most of us are
ticked about is the change in the music.  Yes, Metallica has always 
taken pride of the fact that they are very versatile and their music
changes.  Just look at the variety in RTL.  It goes from Creeping Death
to Fade to Black.  But the whole new album, while not _bad_, is much
slower with lyrics that aren't nearly as powerful as the middle three.
What happened?  Did they run out of good ones?
	I don't mind songs like The Unforgiven, but when the band
compromises everything it has stood for - THAT is wrong.  They 
always said they would make their music the way THEY wanted to.
On the new one Bob Rock was practically a 5th member of the band!
They always said they wrote music because they wanted to, not because
they wanted to make money.  Then why was there such a HUGE media blitz
behind the release?  I understand that that might not have been their
fault, but they certainly could have stopped it if they wanted to.
	As I said - I have no problem with their making money.  None of 
us does.  I do have a problem with their making music specifically to
sell.  I'm not saying they did this at all.  I still haven't made up
my mind, but that is what a lot of people think and THAT is what they
are complaining about.
>
>
>-- 
> |\	    ***  Derek Jewhurst -- djewhurs@Cosmos.ACS.CalPoly.EDU  ***     
> | \____oo_      STRESS: the confusion created when the mind must override the  
>((__|  /___>     body's basic desire to choke the living crap out of some    
>    | //         idiot who desperately deserves it!                         

-Jason

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From: h309@quads.uchicago.edu (Tri-Ryche)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Bootleg
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:24:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: midway.1992Apr8.182449.24185
Reply-To: h309@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

Hi! I'm looking for a Metallica bootleg CD called "Electric Chair"

Can anyone tell me about it please?

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: cii5448@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Ashley Brown)
Subject: Re: Get Rid of Board
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 20:05:40 GMT

yeah, you get off this board you bozo! Why don't you get back on your
rem board and write something like rem sucks or something.  you don't
even know who metallica is! so why don't you stick to alt.homo.geek
or something  you fuckin queer!

@
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Monday, 13 Apr 1992 03:32:47 EDT
From: <DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: ???

 ( Just testing. )

                                             --THARIZDUN

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From: bewillia@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Maj. Devon McKnight)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Definition of a fag
Date: 11 Apr 92 18:49:28 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY

In article <1992Apr6.003012.5673@bsu-ucs.uucp> 00cewilkison@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
>
>  I consider a fag some one like a frat boy. They go with the flow. How
>cool they are! Like a 90210 guy. Some one who lives in a world make 
>believe. Ha-ha!Also someone who admits they are gay. Sorry! They're
>both getting fucked or fucking someone in the ass. 
>                    I'd like to teach the world to sing!
>                                     Chad E.

	Someone like a frat boy... hmmm. Well, I'm a "frat boy," and I've been
listening to Metallica (as well as Motorhead, Slayer, etc) since I was about
13. A really large portion of greeks that I know don't "go with the flow" as
you so (ugh) eloquently put it. 
	Please get your stereotype-infested head out of your ass. Thank you.
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