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From: crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: PSU Dress Code / No Smoking
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:25:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Jul23.202512.1478
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <92205.135530KPS@psuvm.psu.edu> <KPS@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>
>By the way, Penn State just announced a no-smoking policy in the stadium.
>I say it's about damned time. Smokers had the attitude that just because they
>were outside they "couldn't possibly be bothering anyone". Meanwhile those
>around them were gagging and waving the smoke away all day long to see the
>game.  Is this policy leading-edge or has Penn State been lagging behind the
>rest of the country? I'm a little curious.
>
>
>Kevin S.
>KPS at psuvm.psu.edu

Here in Huskyville, smoking is allowed only on the concourses outside the
seating area.  The same is true at the Kingdome.  If a new public places
anti-smoking law is passed (as it probably will), then this will also be
forbidden.

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From: markn@assisi.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Mark Nass)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: 1st round signings?
Date: 25 Jul 92 17:00:10 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA


   I was watching ESPN the other night and they said that 14
of the 28 first round picks have signed already. I only know of
10. Does anybody else know who the other 4 are that have signed?

Thanks,
Mark Nass


1. Colts - Steve Emtman  DE----------->Signed
2. Colts - Quentin Coryatt  LB-------->Signed
3. Rams - Sean Gilbert  DT------------>Signed
15. Jets - Johnny Mitchell  TE-------->Signed
17. Cowboys - Kevin Smith  DB--------->Signed
18. 49ers - Dana Hall  DB------------->Signed
22. Bears - Alonzo Spellman  DE------->Signed
24. Cowboys - Robert Jones  LB-------->Signed
25. Broncos - Tommy Maddox  QB-------->Signed
27. Bills - John Fina  OT------------->Signed





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From: davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood)
Subject: Representation
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:45:52 GMT

We're up to 138 entries for the pool and there are still 2 teams that
are not represented.  Aren't there any fans out there for:

Rams
Cardinals

???
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From: aa05@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ABDULMALIK A. ALHUSSEINI)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Cowboys' Rookies
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:43:42 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

To all Cowboys fans out there, I am a die-hard cowboy fan and I am anxious to
know how this year rookies are doing in camp.
 Is Kevin Smith the best cornerback in the draft as he claims?
 Can Darren Woodson play strong safety?
 Is Clayton Holmes worth the 3rd round pick spent on him?
 Is Jimmy Smith good enough to unseat Wright or even Harper?
 Will Robert Jones be the impact player he is projected to be?
 Also what about the many late rounders? any sleepers?

 I have many other questions. I will appreciate any info.
 Thanks.... Malik.....
From: lavelle@aardvark.lerc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Montana still "tired"
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:10:52 GMT
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center

In article <22910@oasys.dt.navy.mil> hambric@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Hambric) writes:
>In rec.sport.football.pro, marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall) writes:
>
>->Joe Montana still says he feels like he's not getting much zip on the
>->ball, and complains that his arm feels tired. He took half of Friday off,
>->then did not throw Saturday or Sunday, then yesterday he threw only
>->30 passes (he was scheduled to throw 40). He has been diagnosed as
>->having "tired tendons", and has been advised to cut back for the rest
>->of training camp. However, he is still scheduled to start Monday night
>->against the Broncos.
>
>This guy's turning into a joke.  Has Montana ever considered graceful
>retirement or is his ego too inflated for that?
>
As I had said before i think it is time for him to retire.  How many
injuries is it gonna take?  If he decides to play until he is
physically unable that almost garantees that he will end his career
with a major injury.  Just ask fomer Raider's center Dave Otto
about that.

But i think he is the greatest QB of all time
(just kidding.  PLEASE do not respond to this statement.)

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From: yslas@earpuswest.com ( Rob Yslas)
Subject: Re: Elway Slightly Injured (WAS Re: A little Broncos News)
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:18:33 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.204501.6451@advtech.uswest.com>, steven@jaynes ( Steve Novak) writes:
> > = (David Rex Wood) writes:
> 
> >Just a little info:
> 
> >First round pick Maddox (QB) still unsigned but says he will be here.
> 
> They better get him signed.  John Elway became the first player on the
> Bronco's injury list, ten minutes into the first practice, when he strained a
> hamstring in a 40 yard sprint.  Not serious this time, but the guy is coming
> off of elbow surgery, and this is his 10th season.
> 
> 

Elway should be back in pads today and he is throwing without pain.  Maddox will
be a rookie and I think would be of little help to the broncos this year.

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From: rlcarr@athena.mit.edu (Richard L. Carreiro)
Subject: PATRIOTS NEWS
Summary: Chung signs
Organization: Digitopolitan Embassy to the US
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:32:45 GMT

Rookie OL Eric Chung has come to terms and ended his holdout, leaving
only Garin Veris (DL) and one other rookie as the only major holdouts.


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From: pjl2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Paul J Landsberg)
Subject: Some older news regarding the Giants.
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 19:40:10 GMT

Just some Giants tidbits while things compile:

Phil Simms is signed and back in camp.  He is a happy Giant and says
he wants to remain here til retirement.

Lawrence Taylor reported to camp. His reporting date is always a 
betting party.

With Maurice Carthon gone (where did he go ? the Browns probably), 
Jarrod Bunch is going to have to pick up all of hte fullback duties.

Hostetler is the starting QB, no ifs, ands or buts............excepts
if he has a pathetic training camp.

Paul Landsberg



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From: imprint@watserv1.waterloo.edu (IMPRINT -- UW's Student Newspaper)
Subject: Re: University of Western Ontario star denied US visa
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:11:54 GMT

In article <BrsK7E.5EE@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> srklump@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (elm) writes:
>Apparently, Ty Detmer (?) of UWO, drafted in the first round down
>south of the border, has been denied access to the US as part of the
>25000 foreigner (xenophobic) quota enacted last year.  This will also
>probably be a huge problem for hockey players, as only 16% are Americans.
>
>I wonder what he'll do now?  I don't think any CFL team drafted him; it was
>not expected that he'd be signable.  Maybe show up on some team's doorstep?
>Does anyone know if he can appeal?
>
>Stephen.

That's Tyrone Williams, WR from the University of Western Ontario in London.
He was drafted in the ninth round by the Phoenix Cardinals, and they are
campaigning on his behalf to get him a work visa.  He was also drafted by 
the Calgary Stampeders of the Canadian Football League (in the second round, 
I think -- his good chances of being drafted in the NFL made him less attractivein the CFL draft).  I don't know what the Cardinals' receiving corps is like, 
but he would join a stable of great receivers if he played for the Stamps.

Peter Brown
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From: exujeff@exu.ericsson.se (Jeff Thompson)
Subject: Re: Browner could help Dallas!!!
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:28:05 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.033042.74959@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> aa05@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ABDULMALIK A. ALHUSSEINI) writes:
>Path: exucom.exu.ericsson.se!ericom!sunic!mcsun!uunet!europa.asd.contel.com!darwin.sura.net!jvnc.net!netnews.upenn.edu!netnews.cc.lehigh.edu!ns1.cc.lehigh.edu!aa05
>From: aa05@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ABDULMALIK A. ALHUSSEINI)
>Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
>Subject: Browner could help Dallas!!!
>Message-ID: <1992Jul29.033042.74959@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>
>Date: 29 Jul 92 03:30:42 GMT
>Organization: Lehigh University
>Lines: 11

>I do not understand why the Vikes released Browner. I thought he was solid
>last year. I also think that he probably has a couple of good years in him. It
>is not a secret that the cowboys secondary is not their strongest case. The
>cowboys should give Browner a close look if they get a chance. Even though
>James Wasshington is the most consistent performer in the cowboys secondary,
>the mere presense of Browner will raise the intensity of the players around
>him.

>tell me if you agree of disagree.

>AAA........
]Attitude my friend, attitude.  Browner was becoming a problem for the front 
office.  If any one could handle him it would be JJ.  I think it might be 
worth a look, especially with his ex-team mate IKE HOLT.
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In rec.sport.football.pro, larry@aecom.yu.edu (Larry Simmons) writes:

> Name the only NFL team that has never won their division 
> since the merger in 1970?
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I'd guess the Cardinals.

Ashton

Bronco Zealot
From: davewood@anchor.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: '49ers News
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:22:31 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <1992Jul24.141444.12206@hellgate.utah.edu> twolf@cs.utah.edu (Tom Wolf) writes:
>In article <4180@equinox.unr.edu> alan@wrc.unr.edu (Alan McKay) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul21.172952.15549@parc.xerox.com> fishkin@Xerox.com (Ken Fishkin) writes:
>>
>>>>       The 49ers also signed their 9th round pick, Darian Hagan, the former
>>>> QB of Colorado.  Are they going to use him as a WR/KR?
>>>    Yes, that's the plan. They want to give John Taylor a rest
>>
>>I know Hagan doesn't possess classic NFL QB traits, but do you think the
>>Niners would also view him as back-up insurance at that position? 
>>
>>
>
>All reports are the WR/KR future for Hagan. Don't think anyone thinks much
>of his QB'ing ablity after all I believe he was a wishbone type QB. Still,
>he is an athelete that could do well.
>
>Tom
>
>

I watched him here at CU for 3 years. He is certainly no passing QB but I'd
say he could suffice as a third string guy if they didn't want to keep
a third real QB.

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From: mocnik@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: NFL Owners meet in Dallas Today
Date: 20 Jul 92 10:01:38 EST

NFL News - July 20, 1992

An interesting article in Sunday's paper said the NFL owners would be
meeting in Dallas today (MONDAY) to discuss a few things. One of the items
is of a NEW settlement proposal to the trial. Here are some of the details:

- Limited free agency for players after 5 years in the league; total free
  agency after 6.

- A modified draft. Non-playoff teams would draft for 8 rounds, playoff
  teams for 7, and the Super Bowl participants for 6 rounds. Teams would
  have a flat-figured spending cap on draft picks, which could be used however
  they see fit.

- An NBA-type team salary cap and floor tied to percentage of league gross
  revenues. It would include provisions for re-signing a team's own free agents.

- A lump-sum payout to players who have been protected from Plan B free agency
  from 1989-1992.

- A dispersal of revenues from NFL properties to the NFL Players Association,
  with a guarantee that one-third goes directly to the players.

- Tagliabue wants all pending lawsuits against the league - approximately 20 -
  to be settled in any comprehensive labor agreement.

The trial is presently in recess, and will resume July 27 in Minneapolis.



That's a lot of changes.
Any News from Dallas. Your papers should be filled with agenda items for this
meeting.

Don Mocnik
From: donehoo@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Doyle Donehoo)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Montana still "tired"
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:21:16 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

<29710080@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM> garyr@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Gary Rosen) writes:
>The most telling fact, as Bob points out, is that
>Montana seems to accept not being able to throw for a while when he is
>normally fighting to get in as much practice as he can.

"Normally" Montana would be healthy, and fighting for practice time.
Obviously he is recovering from a reconstructive operation, and
trying to get back to 100% from 0%, where "normally" he would just
be tuning up this time of year. It would be crazy to expect Montana
to be back and at 100% without any discomfort after what he has been
through. If he stays healthy, we probably will never see the old Joe,
but if we do, it will take time. Tendon problems take a LONG time to
heal, and the body never forgets.

Yesterday in the interview, Montana seemed to be saying the soreness
and tiredness was unrelated to the operation, and the problems he has
been having was from overwork to an arm not yet used to it.

To my mind, the 49ers do not have a QB problem, not like say the Raiders,
and is the least of my worries. Montana is an interesting diversion,
and we will just have to wait to see what happens. As Collingsworth said
at the Superbowl: "Is number 16 still in there? Then its not over yet."


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From: drew@verdix.com (Drew Johnson)
Subject: Re: Washington Redskins - training camp report
Organization: Verdix Corp.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:49:14 GMT

In article <22595@oasys.dt.navy.mil> swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams) writes:
>Charley Casserly didn't speak with the agent for either holdout, quarterback 
>Mark Rypien or wide receiver draft choice Desmond Howard as each side
>appears to be waiting for the other to make the next move.  Rypien has
>told agent Ken Staninger to pursue a formal one-year offer from the
>CFL Toronto Argonauts in case he decides to gamble that NFL players
>will have their free agency by next spring.  

I think this 'gamble on free agency' stuff is pretty ridiculous.  Does anybody
out there think that some other team in the NFL is going to pay Ryp 4mil/year?
The guy is turning up his nose at getting more than 3mil per year.  I hope
he goes to Toronto.

Drew
drew@verdix.com
From: str@maredsous.Eng.Sun.COM (Todd Rader)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Most fascinating stadium?
Date: 30 Jul 1992 20:13:13 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
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In article 17972@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE, kirchner@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Robert Kirchner) writes:
%
%Which is the most fascinating, most impressive stadium for watching a NFL-game?
%
%Don't rank by home team, but criterias like noise made by cheering fans,
%support when team plays not very well, show, entertainment before the game
%starts and during breaks, music, architecture, tradition, ...

That's easy.  Candlestick Park.

It's an absolute marvel that people actually show up there.
As for entertainment value, the aerial shots from the blimps elicit
countless giggles from armchair architechture critics.  1/2 :-)
From: elm@cs.berkeley.edu (ethan miller)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Trivia question
Date: 21 Jul 92 12:14:57
Organization: Department of Diabolical and Unauthorized Research
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In-reply-to: ashton@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM's message of Mon, 20 Jul 1992 21:53:20 GMT

In article <100240284@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> ashton@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ashton Delahoussaye) writes:
=>> Name the only NFL team that has never won their division 
=>
=>I'd guess the Cardinals.

Bzzzt!  The Cardinals won the NFC East twice in the mid-70's (74 and
75?).  I remember those Redskin - Cardinal games, as that was the time
when the games were actually somewhat competitive.

ethan
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From: desert@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (Desert Man...)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Weighted picks
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:50:33 GMT
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In article <1992Jul21.213606.13114@ncar.ucar.edu>, gary@colossus.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary Strand) writes:
>
>     [stuff deleted]
>
>   Too bad for Joe Student, I say. Two seasons ago, in the 1990 NCAA pool, I
>   started 75th out of 75 people (511.62 points compared to 909.34 points for
>   1st place). By the end of the season, I was in 15th place out of 117 people. 
>   I had climbed to 10584.76 points, compared to 11115.89 for 1st place. Or, 
>   to look at percentages, I went from 56% to 95%. I viewed my original poor
>   performance as a challenge.
>

Ohhh... It was you 3 notches right below my ranking, eh...?  *grin*
 
>   I think weighted picks are a great idea.

I like the idea too... I think gurus are found using this kind of pool! :)

Maybe Mr. Davewood could get the program for it and give it a try for the
NFL too...

D Man...
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From: bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Gary Beason)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Texans of Dallas
Date: 31 Jul 92 04:14:32 GMT
Organization: Purdue University


>To quickly settle a bet...
>
>	Precisely, what became of the infamous Dallas Texans?
>
>
>Gary John (Collins)

They moved to KC and became the Chiefs.  Unfortunately, I can't
remember the reason why they moved.  I don't think the Cowboys gave
the Texans that much trouble, or did they?  The Texans were more
successful for the time they shared the city.  

Gary Beason
bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu
From: flanery@cs.utk.edu (Ray Flanery)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Browns Backers Club
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:10:40 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - CS Department
Distribution: usa

Just wanted to let people know that here in Knoxville, TN it is possible
to catch a Browns game. Anyone passing through on a weekend who would
like to see them play, there is a sports bar in town called Rookies
that plays all the games for us.

I believe the owner (who is a Broncos fan :{ ) is adding another room
this year for a bunch of Giants fans.

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From: JGARLITZ@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Bobby Humphrey
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:41:50 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Does anybody know what is going on with Bobby Humphrey?  Has he showed for
training camp?  Is he going to try to work out a contract with Denver now
that Gaston Green has been signed for another year?

--Paul Garlitz        JGARLITZ@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDUC
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