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From: hlee@unixg.ubc.ca (Henry Lee)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.video
Subject: Much's City Limits (Was - Re: mtv & kennedy)
Followup-To: rec.music.video
Date: 25 Jan 1993 00:48:25 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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Follow-ups to rec.music.video :

In article <1993Jan24.212221.26307@news.columbia.edu> gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes:
>neil3475@mach1.wlu.ca (james neilson 9301 a) writes:
>>Hey if you think Kennedy is bad out there in MTV land, at least be 
>>thankful you get shows like 120 minutes.  Up in Canada here the 
>>Canadian Content music laws make it damn near impossible for our 
>>24 hour music station to find any time to program alternative music 
>>at all.  You're a very lucky person if they play maybe 2 hours a week.
>
>The problem really lies in MuchMusic's 8 hour format, replayed twice
>in the day to fill out 24 hours.  You have to fill it out with a bit
>of everything, so they try to do some segregation of the videoes. All
>musical formats seem to suffer, but there is at least more variety in
>each 8 hour period than on MTV, apart from the core commercial heavy
>rotation that both Much and MTV need to pay the bills.  Pity that they
>can't go 24 hours to make everybody happy ... dump some non-music
>stuff (I have had the same problem with MTV).

HL: The only thing "close" to a completely alternative set is on
HL: "City Limits" which airs Fridays (930pm to 11pm PST), then immediately
HL: followed by "Indy Limits" (independent) for 30 minutes.

HL: As Gary has said, Much only does 8 hrs live which then is repeated in
HL: the other 16 hours to fill out the day.  I've wondered how much
HL: more would go into broadcasting, say, another 4 hrs live to make
HL: a "two-fer" repeat instead of a "three-fer" repeat.
HL: In other words, I really don't have any feel for costs, manpower, etc.

HL: Much's non-music programming quite simply annoys me in that it
HL: takes out "video air time" for what I personally feel should go 
HL: on a nation-wide music video station -- probably more so 
HL: since Much's is the only Canadian-wide video station.

>>Just be thankful you can see the Screaming Trees, Paul Weller and 
>>Soundgarden on a daily basis.

HL: Where else can you see these 3 in the same set, eh?   :-)

HL: By the way, I haven't seen Kennedy on MTV (no kidding)
HL: but perhaps, Gary, you can tell me how she compares to, oh say ...
HL: Nathalie Richard.   :-D
-- 

Henry Lee   <hlee@unixg.ubc.ca> // <lee@physics.ubc.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: spray@convex.com (Rob Spray)
Subject: Re: Gruntruck
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:30:34 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1k26e5INN244@shelley.u.washington.edu> bg@stein.u.washington.edu (Bill Whitson) writes:

>with Pantera for about six weeks before they return to the states.  If you
>get a chance to see these guys while their still moderately small, do it.
>Chances are they'll have outgrown the club scene before mid-93.

Yes. They've been "discovered" in this month's Guitar Player along
with PJ Harvey.

--Rob  spray@convex.com
From: mcsdc1gm@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Cringer (was Spongetones, Green Day)
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:29:59 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <tufnel.727991138@camelot>, tufnel@camelot.bradley.edu (Timothy Bartley) writes:
> Cringer is another band on Lookout.  I've only heard a couple songs that I
> taped off a 7" from a friend (Pen, Ballad of a Handgun), but I think they're
> really good.  Anyone else have any comments?
> 
> tim

    Yeah Cringer are excellent! I have a couple of songs from a
    split 7" with hopeful monsters(i still have some of these for sale)
    also i tried to get an lp or mini lp on full circle but they had
    run out. the lp is called I Take My Dreams(or Desires)For Reality
    i think can't quite remember.
From: dineshm@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Dinesh Bidappa Maneyapanda)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: new order...
Date: 27 Jan 93 06:38:12 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

i'm just wondering if any of you all can give me a hand with this...

while listening to an oldies station during a machine shop class i took
last year, i suddenly began listening and was amazed to hear a version
of 'love vigilantes' that appears of new order's _Low-Life_ (facd 100).

as far as i could tell, it was the exact same lyrics that appear on this
album.  i checked the liner notes, etc., and according to them, the song
was written by new order.  i heard this song on an oldies station, however,
and the version sounded like something from the 50's (like you hear in
back to the future when he goes back in time).  just wondering if anyone
out there knows the song, or who actually wrote it.

dinesh
dineshm@phoenix.princeton.edi
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: H5FK000 <H5FK@UNB.CA>
Subject: sub society
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:43:35 GMT

  im not only looking for ramona, i am involved in a life quest for
a recording from a band called sub-society.  i'm not sure what lable
they are on or anything but i would really like some info on how i
might hook up with a copy.  delaney
From: tower@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jim Van Houten)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: afghan whigs
Date: 29 Jan 93 00:19:14 GMT
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA

In article <1993Jan28.191725.8084@hubcap.clemson.edu> snordgr@eng.clemson.edu writes:
>
>   I was listening to my college radio station (wsbf-clemson) yesterday and heard a really cool whigs song.  It was a dance mix of "rebirth of cool" (the chorus is "don't forget the alcohol" i think that's the name) Anyway, I called the station and the dj said it was from a promo cd and wasn't available in stores.  
>   I, being a faithful reader of this alt.music.alternative, figured somebody out there would have information on obtaining promo cd's.  Please prove me correct.  Any info on promo cd's?
>  I figure I probabably have to bribe my local record store owner or pay out the ass, but if there is an easier way I would like to know it.  Thanks.


You should be able to find this ep at your local record store that carries 
Sub Pop.  It was released as sort of Afghan Whigs farewell to Sub Pop before 
they move on to a major label.  It was not just a promo CD (I bought it at the
local Tower Records.

	Jim
-- 
Jim Van Houten		  |"Jesus loves you, more than I do."
Stanford University	  |		-THE WONDER STUFF
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From: hckrus01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Wanna Help?
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:28:27 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

Hello indie rock/pop fans:

I am desperately trying to finish my doctoral dissertation on 
indie rock/pop subcultures (its unwieldy title is "Marginal
Formations and the Production of Culture:  The Case of College
Music."  Ugh.)  I've interviewed plenty of musicians and 
people in the biz:  record companies, college radio, management,
venues, etc.  But what I need are FANS.  I'm not sure I will
use the fan info in the diss itself, since it's already half
finished, but certainly will use it when I convert my thesis
into a book.

So what I'm wondering is, if I posted a questionnaire, would
any of you be interested in taking the time to respond?

Hope y'all are interested in helping.  Your responses will
make fascinating reading for me when my 1 year appointment
here at the U of Louisville ends in May and I'm forced to
move back in with my dad because the job market sucks (I'm
such a good little downwardly mobile twentysomething).

But seriously folks, I'd appreciate your input.


Holly Kruse
hckrus01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
From: reidkb@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Kenneth B Reid)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Trashcan Sinatras Are Back (sort of).
Date: 25 Jan 93 10:41:30 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

I have recently got my hands on a demo of the songs that will make up the new
Trashcan Sinatra's album. Basically its the best thing I've heard for quite
some time, its just a pity that it took them so long to do it (their first
lp-'Cake' was released three years ago). My favourite is a song called   
'Earlies' which is the saddest song they have ever done. 'Bloodrush' and 'One  
at a time' are also great songs. They have definitely matured as song writers
and the new songs have more depth than the ones on the patchy 'cake'. Word is
that the album should be released in the next few months.

Kenny Reid

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 E-mail:reidkb@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk                                    Ibrox     
                                                                    Glasgow
  Kenneth Reid                                                      Scotland
                         "   RAVE ON DAVE MCPHERSON    "
From: sjames@adam.adelaide.edu.au (S James)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Single Gun Theory
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:13:59 GMT
Organization: The University of Adelaide
Distribution: world
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mark@earthview.cms.udel.edu (Mark Pulaski) writes:

>In article JH8@austin.ibm.com, accapadi@mathew.austin.ibm.com (Matt Accapadi) writes:
>> In article <C15w0t.Dow@news.udel.edu> mark@earthview.cms.udel.edu writes:
>> >The other day I heard a song on our college alternative radio show that sounded alot
>> >like Single Gun Theory, and I haven't heard it before.  Is there new stuff out, or
>> >is this an older song that I've never heard before?  
>> 
>> IBM AWD AIX System Performance           VNET:  ACCAPADI at AUSTIN
>> 11400 Burnet Rd. Bld. 906/9632           yaknet: 512-838-3193  Tie 678-3193
>> Austin, TX 78758-3493                    fax: 512-838-8344

>it that I really liked...and I can't remember the name of that either.  It went like
 The CD you all seem to be talking about is called The Stars in my Hands
published on the Volition Label Catalogue number VoltCd 37
The CD is readily available here in Australia, when I bought it
(only a few weeks ago) it came with a free video of two of the tracks

St James
Adelaide Sth Australia
sjames@adam.adelaide.edu.au  .
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: alee@quads.uchicago.edu (Nic Fit)
Subject: Re: Desparately seeking Sonic Youth discography!
Keywords: Desparately seeking Sonic Youth discography!
Reply-To: alee@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:03:41 GMT

In article <6032@krafla.rhi.hi.is> odinna@rhi.hi.is (Odinn Albertsson) writes:
>                Albums (cd):                        Singles (cd):
>                 Sonic Youth (five tracks)           Dirty boots e.p 
>                 Confusion is sex                    100%
>                 Bad moon rising
>                 Evol
>                 Sister
>                 Daydream Nation
>                 Goo
>                 Dirty
>
>  Ciccone Youth: Whitey album
> 
Albums: Sonic Death (SST)           Singles: Disappearer (Geffen)
                                             Youth Against Facism (Geffen)

Note that there are numerous labels for the pre-Geffen stuff,
including the fact that Geffen will redistribute them.

Also, there are numerous bootlegs.

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From: Walter.J.Muller.IV@dartmouth.edu (Walter J. Muller IV)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: The Samples...
Date: 25 Jan 93 04:41:06 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu


Where is this great group heading these days?  Last I heard, they lost
their record contract.  Are they still out there making new music or
even touring?

Joey.Muller@Dartmouth.edu
From: pnhrab00@nx16.mik.uky.edu (Peter N. Hrabak)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Any Mr. Bungle fans out there???
Keywords: pee wee herman mr. bungle doodypies suffocation dada
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:02:21 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

In article <1993Jan25.170928.21330@Virginia.EDU> wcw2c@Virginia.EDU  
("") writes:
> "He looked at his hands."
> "His hands were dirty"
> ....
> "Phil knew he wouldn't want to be like Mr. Bungle"
> 
> wcw2c@uva.pcmail.Virginia.EDU
> 
> I love that shit!


If I recall, there's a video of Pee Wee Herman's HBO one hour show,  
called, aptly enough, THE PEE WEE HERMAN SHOW, and in it he shows  
that very same '50s hygiene (sp?) film!!  It was a trip to hear it on  
the Bungle album on my first run through!!  Mr. Bungle was a puppet!!   
Yay!!!

-Stinky Pete


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From: rueping@fzi.de (Andreas Rueping)
Subject: Re: > POLL <--- Last Chance
Reply-To: rueping@fzi.de
Organization: Forschungszentrum Informatik (FZI), Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:51:24 GMT

In article <28522@dog.ee.lbl.gov>, milne@csr.lbl.gov (Brent Milne) writes:
|> 
|> This is the third and final(!) posting of the
|> 1992 Reader's Poll for Best Album...
|> 
|> I'll be posting the results at the end of the week,

Brent,
haven't you posted the results yet or did I miss them?

-- Andreas
From: kardon@rab.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: RE: concerts -worcester/boston
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:59:50 GMT
Reply-To: kardon@rab.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


> thanks for the info. the only bands that this damn school can get are cover
> bands; physical grafitti(supposed to be good) are here tonight


What happened?  Last year, you guys had several good bands including a
Lush/Babes in Toyland double bill.

-Scott
[EOB]
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: tuffyd@bray1a.its.rpi.edu (Devin 'Nice Guy' Tuffy)
Subject: Pigface (was Re: BIG BLACK)
Reply-To: tuffyd@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:47:02 GMT

In article <93021.121108U30633@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U30633@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
|> I agree that you should check out Albini's early stuff.  LUNGS is some
|> of his best music.  Dead Billy, Live in a Hole, etc.  I just picked up a
|> great album last night produced by Albini (he performs on various
|> tracks) of a group called PIGFACE.  The album is titled GUB.  Anyone
|> else have this one?
|> 
|> Joel
Pigface is a group made of a bunch of guys from other groups.  They have two LP's (Gub and Fook), a remix album (Spoon Breakfast), and a Live Album (Welcome to Mexico...Asshole).  But there's too much to say about them here-try rec.music.industrial for more.  Gub's a good album, as well as Welcome to Mexico..., but Fook is my personal favorite...
-- 

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tuffyd@rpi.edu

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From: naam@cecer.army.mil (Ramez Naam)
Subject: Re: Alice in Chains
Organization: US Army Corps of Engineers Construction Engineering Research Labs
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:38:43 GMT

eshneken@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Edward A Shnekendorf) writes:

>How is the Alice in Chains album?  I've heard 'Would' and 'Dirt' and I like them
>both - would the CD be a good buy?

It's a good disk, but most of the songs don't sound much like 'Would' or 'Dirt'.
Most of the other songs are slower. Sort of ponderous, even. Still a good disk,
but not what I'd expected.
--
Ramez Naam
naam@terra.cecer.army.mil
From: jhuy@garnet.berkeley.edu (Jack B. Huynh)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: WIld swans
Date: 24 Jan 1993 00:39:56 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu


In article <1993Jan23.053259.21885@netcom.com> rchao@netcom.com (Robert Chao) writes:
>Does anyone like the English band, the Wild Swans?
>Their first album is BRINGING HOME THE ASHES and it sounds kind of like
>OMD without the idiotic disco drum machines. It has a really cool guitar
>sound almost like Eno. The songs are poppy but with black lyrics that kind
>of remind me of the Housemartins. Their second album is pretty good but
>less distinctive.
>
>The overall SOUND of this album is mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
>If you like OMD or the Housemartins, try it!
>Does anyone know anything about this band? I've never read about them.
>-- 
>Robert Chao
>Oakland, California

I have a promo of them that includes the song Revolutionary Spirit. It's a
really great song, although not as polish as BHTA. The promo has three
songs off BHTA and jeremy speaking in between the songs.

Last I heard, they broke up, but I am not totally sure.

-- 
jack huynh

I don't like much do I. But what I do like, I love passionately. (PSB)
From: msecker@cowan.edu.au (M.SECKER)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: desperately seeking Carter!!
Date: 22 Jan 93 08:35:33 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: scorpion.ac.cowan.edu.au
Summary: after the water shed for sale anyone?
Keywords: Carter USM

arrrr nooooooooooo I can't belive it, I'm a desperate man now!!!! 
any one out there with a copy of Carter USM's After the watershed-
Learning The Hardway, to sell  E-mail me please. I'll pay money realy
honestly, true. If theres no offers for sale  I'll send a tape, and 
a free tape as payment, don't worry about copywrite - here in
Australia we pay a fee on each tape that covers copywrite fees.

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From: dx@netcom.com (dx)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Young Fresh Fellows
Keywords: Fellows
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:36:37 GMT
Organization: The Off Beat

Jim Van Houten...

> YFF did two shows with TMBG in San Francisco back in November.  They also did 
> a show headlining at Berkeley Square on November 21st.  The line-up was The
> Parasites/Xtra Large/Mr. T Experience/Young Fresh Fellows.  They were all 
> awesome...

I guess it depends on which side of the stage you were watching from.  I
thought that was about the most boring YFF show I'd ever seen.  Their attitude
towards people making requests for earlier material was quite hostile.  Maybe
they thought that lecturing the audience as to the quality of their new songs
was humorous... I didn't think so.

This show was one of the first (if not the first) for the new lineup of MTX
(which is just the old lineup minus Jon Von).  Surprisingly, the sound didn't
seem that much thinner for the lack of of Jon's rhythm guitar.

-dx
-- 
"You're a total sociopath in your own right!"  --David Baggett
From: HCRU@MUSICT.MCGILL.CA (HCRU000)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: No Stone Roses in Can?
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:46:23 GMT
Organization: McGill University

Can anybody out there in the U.K. tell me why The Stone Roses
do not want to play in North America? Do they hate Americans?
Do they have something against Mr.Mulrouney? If they came here
to Canada or even the States they would make a killing! They are such a
great band that its a shame that loyal fans like me get hot and
bothered and just sit around waiting for other people to watch
their music fade out around here. They play all over the U.K.
and cannot come here for one or two crummy shows which would
push the guys deeper into the millions.  The Charlatans, Ride,
and other bands falling into relatively the same category
came and put on great shows. So comeon Ian, John, Reni, and
Gary move your asses!
From: carlj@mugwump (Carl)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Zodiac Mindwarp...
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:19:07 GMT
Reply-To: carlj@cyclone.bt.co.uk
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kill0012@student.tc.umn.edu wrote:
: Would anyone care to lay odds as to the likelihood that I will find
: recordings this long after the fact by Zodiac Mindwarp and the Love
: Reaction?  I really thought they were great (hilarious and muchly rockin').
o
The split?!! I saw them last year (excellent as ever) just before they released
there last album (I forget the title), this would, indeed,
be bad news.


Cheers,
C
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: hk@caesar.rice.edu (Hyonchol Kahng)
Subject: Slowdive/Boo Radleys lyrics
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:31:10 GMT


I found (and bought) a copy of Slowdive's _Blue Day_ as a Japanese import,
and I found a booklet of transcribed lyrics for all the songs on the disc.
Now, a few weeks ago, I saw the Japanese version of the Boo Radleys'
_Everything's Alright Forever_ (didn't buy it, though), and I'm curious as
whether there's a lyric book included with that CD.  The reason I'm asking
is because I'm thinking of covering "Spaniard" with my band, and having
the lyrics to that song _might_ be nice.

Better yet, for the person who does have the lyrics to "Spaniard," I'd
be willing to make a swap for the words to the _Morningrise_ single and
98% of the words to the Smashing Pumpkins' "Rhinoceros" (and we're not
talking about the choruses, either).

Cheers,


hk

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