HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gibson@crisium.geop.ubc.ca (Brad Gibson)
Subject: Re: Strong Weekend for US Teams
Organization: Dept. of Astronomy / Univ. of British Columbia
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 23:06:49 GMT

In article <15837@bunny.GTE.COM> Andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa) writes:
>On saturday, the national team ended a miserable string of games
>by beating up on China 5-0.  Even though China was not a very good team
>it was nice to see the boys putting a few in the net.  I can't wait
>until Tab and Hugo can get a few games together in the midfield.  Hopefully
>that will occur this summer at the US Cup.  Meola was challanged only
>a couple of times and the defense was adequate.  I still feel that US will
>have to strengthen there wing fullbacks.  Once we have all of our players
>present we will probably have enough halfbacks to put John Harkes on one
>of the wings.  And if Tom Dooley pans out maybe he could play the other
>side.  The US next plays in Ireland later this month.  A result like this makes
>me wonder where the US is compared to the rest of the world?  Most of the
 
   For what it's worth, the Canadian National Team beat this same team from
   China last week by the score 5-2.

>foreigners on the NET consider the US a very poor playing country.  If that
>is true than where does that put teams like China and Mexico that we can 
>now regularly beat?
>

   Brad

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From: gibson@crisium.geop.ubc.ca (Brad Gibson)
Subject: European Olympic Qualifiers
Organization: Dept. of Astronomy / Univ. of British Columbia
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 20:29:06 GMT

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Can someone fill me in on the European qualifiers for Barcelona .. i.e., who's
going?  I really haven't been paying much attention thus far :(

As far as I can tell, the following have qualified:
     1) Spain
     2) Germany
     3) Denmark
     4) Italy
     5) Sweden

After this I'm a bit foggy ... I think there is definitely one more assured
spot, plus another potential one provided the fifth best-team after Spain and
Germany beats Australia for the final spot.  Am I way off base? ... Help!

Brad

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From: seco@marge.math.binghamton.edu (Jose Gonzalez-Seco)
Subject: Re: Soccer Videos
Organization: Dept of Math Sci., SUNY-Binghamton
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:57:44 GMT

In article <16033@bunny.GTE.COM> andy@rocky.gte.com (Andy Busa) writes:

>I am collecting tapes of superstars of different sports.  I have a tape
>on Gretzky, Bird, and Magic.  I am looking for tape that I can purchase
>on either PELE or Maradona.  The tape should encompass their whole careers
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
            or DiStefano, no?

Jose,
seco@math.binghamton.edu
From: mandelbu@sal-sun133.usc.edu (Santiago F. Mandelburger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Copa Libertadores - What's next
Date: 13 Apr 1992 11:06:36 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
Reply-To: mandelbu@sal-sun133.usc.edu (Santiago F. Mandelburger)
NNTP-Posting-Host: sal-sun133.usc.edu


In article <1992Apr11.064607.19859@CS.ORST.EDU>, visconm@fog.CS.ORST.EDU (Marcello Visconti) writes:
|> Hi all!
|> 
|> 	This is what's coming in Copa Libertadores:
|> 
|> 	The 2nd round games will be played April 29th and May 6th.
|> 	The quarterfinal games will be played May 13th and May 20th.
|> 	The semifinal games will be played May 27th and June 3rd.
|> 	The Great Final games will be played June 10th and June 17th.
|> 
|> 	I need the results of the following games, played earlier this
|> 	week in Asuncion, Paraguay:
|> 
|> 		Wednesday April 8th: Cerro Porteno (PAR) - Nacional (URU)
|> 		Thursday April 9th: Sol de America(PAR) - Defensor (URU)
|> 
|> 	Can anyone fill in?
|>
As far as I know the results were:

 Sol de America 0 - Defensor (Uruguay) 0.
 Cerro Porten~o tied with both Nacional & Defensor.

The positions are:
                Cerro Porteno   8 Pts 	Class.
                Nacional 	7 Pts	Class.
                Defensor	4  "      "    (Goal Difference).
                Sol de America  4  "    Elliminated.

 

|> 	These are the matchups for the second round in Copa Libertadores:
|> 
|> 	1st Group 1 (Newell's-ARG)   ---- 3rd Group 5 (Defensor-URU)
|> 
|> 	1st Group 2 (BRA or BOL)     ---- 3rd Group 4 (Sp.Cristal-PER)
|>          {Possibly Criciuma-BRA}
|> 
|> 	1st Group 3 (Barcelona-ECU)  ---- 4th Group 1 (Colo Colo-CHI)
|> 
|> 	1st Group 4 (Nacional-COL)   ---- 3rd Group 3 (Maritimo-VEN)
|> 
|> 	1st Group 5 (PAR or URU)     ---- 3rd Group 2 (BOL or BRA) 
|>         {Possibly Cerro Porteno-PAR}      {Possibly Bolivar-BOL}
|> 
|> 	2nd Group 1 (U.Catolica-CHI) ---- 2nd Group 4 (America-COL)
|> 
|> 	2nd Group 2 (BRA or BOL)     ---- 2nd Group 5 (PAR or URU)
|>         {Possibly Sao Paulo-BRA}          {Possibly Nacional-URU}
|> 
|> 	2nd Group 3 (Valdez-ECU)     ---- 3rd Group 1 (San Lorenzo-ARG)
|> 
|> 
|> Anyone dares to predict the 8 quarterfinalists?

Let me see, and I'll tell you.
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Cheers,

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From: noe@ixchel.Eng.Sun.COM (Fernando Noe (Compliance Engineering) )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: How do you say..
Date: 10 Apr 92 23:16:38 GMT
Reply-To: noe@ixchel.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: ixchel

Is there anyone up there from Brazil.?
I'm trying to find out, how would you say in portuguese
"Brazilian soccer"

Fernando.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: ST402544@brownvm.brown.edu
Subject: Man United 1-0 Southampton
Organization: Brown University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:16:03 GMT

BBC World Service reported that Man Utd go back to the top of the
First Division with a 1-0 win at home against Southampton. Kanchelschis
scored in the 64 minute.

In the division with the most spending power Sunderland lost 1-0 at home to
low flying Plymouth

                     Andy
From: cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: UEFA Rulings (was RE:USA WORLD CUP.....)
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:33:24 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

In article <1992Apr7.192535.2585@oakhill.sps.mot.com>, asim@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Asim Omair) writes:
> In article <12757206@um.cc.umich.edu> BRIAN.JEFFREY.COOK@UM.CC.UMICH.EDU writes: 
> Last year Manchester United won the Cup Winners Cup, and that was after the 
> absence of English teams in the European competitions for about 5 years. If
> you want to talk about Liverpool, then look at their European record from the
> late '70s till '85 (when they were banned from Europe). I think that one of
> the main reasons that English team are not doing well in the European
> competitions is that there is a restriction on the number of foreign players
> and hence some of the teams had to do without their regular players. Previously,
> there was no restriction on players from Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales, but
> now these players are included in the foreign category and if you look at the
> Liverpool lineup you will see that they have a lot of players from the above
> countries. Similarly, Manchester United had to rest their goalkeeper (I cannot
> spell his name) because of this restriction.


The current UEFA restrictions on non-nationals playing for club sides
seems to have been dreamt up for the good of the Italian, Spanish, German
and French clubs who couldnt match the number of trophies won by English
sides in the 70's and early 80's. These countries have their own 
restrictions in their domestic leagues and so it's not a problem for them.
However British clubs have suffered badly and things look worse for next
season with only 3-non nationals allowed. I dont know what sort of team 
Rangers will be able to field next season. It seems a bit ludicrous that
they have spent vast amounts of money importing players but are not 
allowed to use them in Europe. The obvious solution would be to buy Scottish
players but do we really want Gordon Durie or Gary McAllister at over inflated
prices ? No way !!! However with freedom of movement within the EC, Rangers
are looking at the situation closely and it is expected they will try to
take legal action against the UEFA ruling. Celtic have a novel approach to
the problem though -- try not qualify for Europe in the first place. Oops.
Sorry Bhoys.....

The reason Rangers bought foreign players (including English) was the lack 
of genuine class players available when Souness first took over. Having
watched a lot of them over the last 5 years, his actions have been totally
justified. If only we could win the European Cup.........

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From: CVBASMA@UMSVM.BITNET ("Khalil A. Basma")
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Players of the Year in England ?
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:46:57 GMT

Way to go United. Second year in a row both players are from Manchester
United.
Hope the Championship is next.
From: scottp@npg-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (Scott Platenberg)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: mail reflector
Summary: please add
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:56:44 GMT
Reply-To: scottp@npg-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (Scott Platenberg)
Organization: NCR Corporation, Network Products Group, San Diego


  Sorry for posting to the world...

  Can whoever is in charge of the mail reflector that sends this group's
stuff to those less fortunate than ourselves please re-add my friend to the
list (his site went down and is now back up -- but he no longer gets the
email):
		willen@gdwest.gd.com

Thanks.
--
Scott
From: hans@iesd.auc.dk (Hans Huttel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Football at the movies etc.
Date: 31 Mar 92 14:03:25 GMT
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University


...and now over to something completely different:

The other day I was trying to find out if there were any interesting
works of fiction (films, plays, novels etc.) where football plays an
essential part. Oodly enough, off the top of my head I could think of
very few actual examples.

There is of course the mediocre "Escape from Victory" film by John
Huston with Sylvester Stallone (!) playing alongside Pele et al. As
far as I know this is Hollywood's only attempt at a film about our
noble sport. Now what does _that_ tell us ? [a rhetorical question!]

On the other hand, there is at least one interesting novel about
football (and growing up etc. - football is an important part of
growing up!), "Fodboldenglen" ("The Football Angel") by the late
Danish writer Hans Joergen Nielsen. Most Danish critics agree that
this book is a classic.


- Hans

P.S. BTW, here I'm not really thinking of British football comics (the
Melchester Rovers etc. - or Billy The Fish, for that matter :-) ).
Let's have a separate thread for this phenomenon.


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From: scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: English news: ManU win Cup, midweek fixtures
Date: 14 Apr 92 08:11:25 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, SCOTLAND.

In article <11370@ecs.soton.ac.uk> tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tim Chown) writes:
>
>League Cup Final
>
>MANCHESTER UTD 1-0 NOTT'M FOREST
>Brian McClair scored the all-important goal to take the Rumbelows trophy to
>Old Trafford for the first time.  The Scottish international striker hit
>his 23rd of the season after just 14 minutes to sink Forest.

It must be the first time that McClair has scored when wearing a blue jersey!


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From: christos@cco.caltech.edu (Christos S. Christoforou)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Leeds
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:28:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: cco.1992Apr10.182828.22088
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena


according to my schedule leeds are playing chelsea
at home.

man utd plays southampton also at home.

christos
From: lah014@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Richard Marshall)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Partick Thistle / Aldershot
Date: 7 Apr 92 10:48:22 GMT
Organization: abUSENET, Coventry Polytechnic, Coventry, UK

In article <38730006@hpopd.pwd.hp.com> dm@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Darren Munson) writes:
>The FA has said that only one club will go up from the GM Vauxhaul Conf.
>as they are going to be reducing the size of the league again soon.
>The team that will go up will either be Colchester Utd or Wycombe Wanderers
>these 2 teams are way ahead of the rest. Col Utd are currently top but only
>on goal difference from Wycombe, who have a game in hand.
>
Below is a table updated to 06/04/92. As Darren quite rightly states it will
almost certainlt be either Colchester or Wycombe who goes up.

GM Vauxhall Conference
----------------------
Colchester   35  22  9  4  74 35  75  +39
-----------------------------------------
Wycombe      34  24  3  7  61 29  75  +32
Kettering    34  16 10  8  55 40  58  +15
Telford      35  17  6 12  55 54  57  + 1
Redbridge    35  16  8 11  60 42  56  +18
Boston       34  16  7 11  61 51  55  +10
Farnborough  35  15  9 11  53 55  54  - 2
Bath         37  14 11 12  49 47  53  + 2
Witton       35  14  9 12  55 46  51  + 9
Merthyr      34  13 12  9  48 49  51  - 1
Welling      36  12 12 12  62 67  48  - 5
Northwich    36  14  4 18  55 52  46  + 3
Slough       34  13  5 16  51 59  44  - 8
Macclesfld   34  10 11 13  35 37  41  - 2
Yeovil       35  10 11 14  36 42  41  - 6
Altrincham   35   9 12 14  53 65  39  -12
Gateshead    33   9 10 14  39 45  37  - 6
Cheltenham   37   8 13 16  46 69  37  -23
Runcorn      36   8 12 16  42 56  36  -14
Stafford     36   8 12 16  35 54  36  -19
-----------------------------------------
Kiddermnstr  36   9  8 19  43 64  35  -21
Barrow       36   6 12 18  44 64  30  -20
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Date: Mon,  6 Apr 1992 13:23:03 -0400 
From: Dirk Vancraeynest <dv12+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: World Cup in USA

I am a European who has been in the US for almost 3 years now. It is
true that there are some very good efforts to promote soccer/football,
especially for the youth. But often people who have played the game in
high school, switch to a "real" game in college. Also, I think that the
US national team is playing reasonably well. I enjoyed their games in
the Mondiale more than I had expected.
However I also expect the World Cup in 94 to be a minor disaster. The
problem with the game here, is that it has great difficulty of catching
on with the average American. Many times I have felt very frustrated by
how the media ignore soccer/football, even the US games. For the big
networks all that counts is the expected number of viewers. So, that
will make good coverage very unlikely. For attendance, the US team will
probably not be very succesful. As soon as the national team will have
left the competition, the American people who had a mild interest will
not show up. In all other continents, this would not be a disaster, 
since there's a large number of foreigners who travel abroad to see
their team. I don't expect large numbers of fans from outside the
Americas to come to the US. 
So the result : after a big hype and circus in the first round, a minor
disaster for the reputation of the game.
I hope I am wrong.
DIRK.
From: pavalin@bnr.ca (Paul Valin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: World Cup 94 - Shirts
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:16:28 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

In article <5359@hsi86.hsi.com> archer@hsi86.hsi.com (Garry Archer) writes:
>I had the same thoughts when I read Richard's article.  American sports
>crowds are used to seeing the names of the players on the back of the
>"uniform" ("kit" to us Brits).  Therefore it seems FIFA want to do the
>same to appease the Great American Audience.  Its probably intended to
>dispell any thoughts of this being a "Foreigner's Game".  :-)

Well, if teams want to protest FIFA's pandering of the GAA, they can
take a page from the book of former Toronto Maple Leaf (ice hockey) owner
Harold Ballard.  When the National Hockey League invoked a 'names on 
the jerseys' requirement, the Leafs complied!....But I should also 
mention that the letters they sewed on the jerseys were the same 
colour as the jerseys themselves! (i.e. blue letters on blue background)

There are ways of getting around these requirements.

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From: jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Duner)
Subject: German Soccer Weekly on ESPN
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:32:46 GMT

   I just happened to turn on ESPN on Friday, April 10, and saw a show called
   German Soccer Weekly.  I thought it was excellent and sad that it was only
   a half hour show.  My question is, When is this show on?  Is it always on 
   Friday at noon or does it change every week.  I looked in the TV guide and
   the show wasn't even in there, but it was on.  If anyone knows, let me know
   by e-mail, because I would like to see more shows.


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From: cgllgher@unix2.tcd.ie (    SPARKY     )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Souness shocker: April 16th
Date: 16 Apr 92 14:57:53 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

In <1992Apr16.073949.1890@tcom.stc.co.uk> tim@tcom.stc.co.uk (Tim Kennedy) writes:


>The Daily Mirror today features Souness on the front page,  with the
>headline SHAME OF SOUNESS.  The story is that on the third anniversary
>of Hillsborough,  the Liverpool manager had an exclusive interview
>with the Sun newspaper about his lovelife,  with him snogging his
>new girlfriend on the front page.

>In view of the appalling headlines the Sun sported following the tragedy
>in which it was claimed among other things that survivors were robbing
>the bodies,  the relatives of the dead are in uproar about the man's
>insensitivity.  Apparently he got a substantial sum of money.

>			Newshound
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>Strawberry Fields and Stairway To Heaven,  | Oakleigh Rd South, London N11 1HB.

>at no. 1 was I Owe You Nothing by Bros.    | LUFC, Yorkshire's No. 1

I wrote in before about Souness and recieved some flak but many
of you will now see what I mean.The man has no sense of shame his
goal  in life is to earn another 10 million he doesn't care how
or by no means.He loves publicity more than Clough but unlike
him has no loyalty.
 
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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 23:05:26 EDT
From: Naushad Hussain <IO11076@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Liverpool

Can anyone tell me how Liverpool figured in the FA Cup Semis?
Thanx
-Naushad
From: 575villar@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Spanish League???????
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:35:45 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University



	Ziad, Herrero y dem'as... if you know the results of the Spanish
    league, can you post them?

	Thanks in advance.  Mikel.