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Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: pseudo-rave in Lubbock, Texas
Date: 7 Nov 92 23:39:00 GMT
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From the flyer: FLA-VO-RAVE

"20,000 watts of boomin' bass - ECSTURIZED FOR PURITY AND WHOLESOMENESS

Saturday, November 14th
8pm till 4am at the Depot Warehouse

live: Prodigal Sons
DJs: Anita Mann, Charaka D, Chris Floyd, Kevy Kev

thermo control agents*intoxicating liquor*smart drinks*fruit juice*kandy*fruit
served in our ambient lounge

sensory meltdown*intellibeams*lasers, lights & 20,000 watts of BASS presented
by SHANNON SOUND
All night drink specials.
Tickets available at both University and Ralph's Records: $5 in advance or
$7 at the door

Groovy clothing provided by Innovation

1-800-82SKATE (order & info)

end quote.


Yeah.  I don't have anything to do with this, I just figured I'd type up
the flyer in case anybody was interested in going.
Newsgroups: alt.rave,alt.music.alternative
From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (marvin the martian)
Subject: Re: Meat Beat Manifesto / Orbital / Ultramarine
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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 22:09:32 GMT

In article <6NOV92014513@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu>
omf@hacks.arizona.edu writes: 
|Hi folks!
|
|Well, it looks like these three bands are playing here in ol' Tucson
|on the 22nd.  I'm only familiar with Orbital - anybody want to give
|me a quick rundown on the other two?  Better yet, if someone has already
|seen this concert elsewhere, let me know how it went.

Meat Beat Manifesto is industrial with a hip-hop edge....My personal
favorite industrial band....

I too would like to know more about Ultramarine, since I'm going to
this show most likely as well (wow, Moby and Orbital in the same
month!  can't wait...)

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From: kap@eng.cam.ac.uk (Kevin A. Price)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: 808 State's new CD
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:23:19 GMT
Organization: cam.eng

Hi,

Anyone know the UK release date of the new 808 State CD? Anyone read any
reviews or actually heard it yet?

Kev :)
e-mail kap@eng.cam.ac.uk
From: cluster@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (General Access)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: PCP EP
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:15:18 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

Anyone got the P.C.P. ep? Its from Italy i think. 
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: u9227164@cc.uow.edu.au (Neil P Dillon)
Subject: Raves in Chicago
Summary: raves in Chicago
Keywords: raves
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 08:57:44 GMT

Does anyone know if there are any raves coming up in Chicago.  
I am returning around the 21 of Dec. and would love to attend at least one 
before I go back to Miami.  Let me know.  Thanks.

Neil P. Dillon
u9227164@cc.uow.edu.au
From: I hate people mailing me.
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Drugs
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:22:49 GMT
Organization: Because I have to read it.

I'd love to know what sort of drugs are going on in America just now.
I don't mean Crack, I mean nice ones like E, Trips, Speed and Coke?
(ie. Party drugs). How much does it cost? Is it easy to get? Are drug 
dealers dangerous people over there, shooting each other in the street?

Is it accepted that if you go to rave you take something?

David
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.misc
From: steveh@orbital.demon.co.uk (Stephen Hebditch)
Subject: *** UK-Rave Mailing List
Followup-To: alt.rave
Organization: TQM Communications, London, UK
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:17:34 GMT

UK-RAVE is a new regional mailing list for discussion about all aspects
of rave culture in Britain:  raves, clubs, record shops, radio, records
and anything else to do with the underground scene.

To join the list send the message

	subscribe uk-rave <Your Name>

to

	listserv@orbital.demon.co.uk

You will get an e-mail back confirming your subscription and giving
details of the address to which you should send your submissions for the
list. The first messages on the list will be held back until later in
the week by which time word of the list will have hopefully spread a bit
further.

Although primarily for people in the UK, anyone from outside the country
is welcome to come along for the ride.

-- 
Stephen Hebditch  TQM Communications  steveh@orbital.demon.co.uk +44 836 825962
From: misd1cp@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: re;shammen uk tour
Date: 10 Nov 92 13:37:10 GMT
Summary: listen to some good music(ttf,trance etc)
Reply-To: misd1cp
Distribution: world
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

Well ure a bit behind the times little man...the shammen just ended their uk
tour.sorry.

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: rojohnso@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu (Ronald Johnson)
Subject: Re: SONG I.D./QUERY
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:40:13 GMT

Yeah, thats Freedom on "Get Dumb"...if you listen to the lyrics,(I forgot
exactly what he said) but the last time I listened to it , I realized that
he uses a certain phrase in the "Get Dumb" song, that he also uses on some
C&C songs...I think that, "This is the 'dom'" or something like that...But
yes, it is him....

                                                       RJ
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: jlacour@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (John Lacour)
Subject: Re: Apotheosis
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:37:20 GMT

In article <BxKqFo.KA1@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dmd39855@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (huh?) writes:
>They were supposed to play at China Club in Chicago live back in October and
>cancelled out.  However, they were then supposed to scehdule a date in Nov.

They were also scheduled to play at Kaboom! before that but cancelled.

>Are they/did they?  If they are, when? Id like to go see 'em.

No.                  They aren't.       From what I've read on here, they're
                                        worthless live.


Regards,
John

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ivan@staff.tc.umn.edu (Ivan W. Hyde)
Subject: RAVE: Minneapolis, MN  November, 13
Summary: Advertising RAVE in Minneapolis, MN on November, 13.
Keywords: MN Minnesota Minneapolis November 13
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:28:01 GMT

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
RAVE RAVE RAVE RAVE RAVE RAVE RAVE RAVE RAVE RAVE RAVE RAVE RAVE RAVE RAVE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

	When: November 13, 1992
	Where:'Cedar Cultural Center' Minneapolis MN
	Time: 9:00pm till 1:00am
	Cost: $6.00 
	Phone:649-4708

	From advertisment:

		RAVE	RAVE
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		Friday, 13 of November
		   Aural assault engineering, lighting programmes &
		   technical voodoo by:
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		   Sonic torture inflicted by:
			DJ acid bath
			DJ CAT IN THE HAT
		   	
		Cedar Cultural Center:
			West Bank at Cedar/Riverside in Minneapolis

		FREE RAVE CAND-E FOR ALL UNFORTUNATE SOULS

		LOIS Communications		N.U.T.S.
		$6	9:00pm TILL 1:00am	$6

			for info call (612) 649-4708
				rave in peace
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Enjoy all!!! 
		-Ivan

+-------------------------+--------------------------------+----------------+
|         [ ] [ ]         | e-mail: ivan@staff.tc.umn.edu  | Ivan W. Hyde   |
|         / \ / \         | other(s): ivan@math.umn.edu    | 1314 8th St SE |
|       [ ] [ ] [ ]       |           ivan@vx.cis.umn.edu  | Mpls, MN 55414 |
| University of Minnesota | DoD #0654                      | (612) 331-9274 |
+-------------------------+--------------------------------+----------------+
From: R.J.Bell@bradford.ac.uk (RJ BELL)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Rave music
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:01:00 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 91791405@muser

In article <Bx76q4.4y6@dcs.ed.ac.uk> djts@dcs.ed.ac.uk (David Sumpter) writes:
>Rave music is dead.
>Well in Britain anyway, hope you enjoy our junk over in the states.
>But when it's all over listen to your own house music which is the best in the world.

What do you mean Rave music is dead? Have you heard some of the stuff coming
out on white at the moment? I suppose you're one of these guys who sit around
complaining how raves aren't as good as they used to be instead of actually
giving some of the evnts a try...

Rave is better than ever in Britain IF you go to the right places.

Rob.

-- 
DANCEDANCEDANCEDANCEDANCE DJ MANYK DANCEDANCEDANCEDANCEDANCEDANCEDANCEDANCEDANCE
D   Robert Bell     Bradford University Management Centre        Bradford, UK  A
N  Head of Disco, Bradford University.   email r.j.bell@bradford.ac.uk         C
E   "To err is human, to play cool tunes is divine."                           D
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Todd J Sines)
Subject: Re: Stop all the crap before it really starts.
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 02:27:01 GMT

yeah, such a great idea. i think it would be great to get everyone to sell 
excedrin and fish oxidizing tablets to their friends as E, have everybody 
thinking that they're fucked up, and spend a lot of money OVER and OVER and 
OVER so they can maintain the euphoric (or just what they think is euphoric) 
feeling the rest of their lives....

and then it would be cool to see them go to the hospital for neck injuries, and
the like.....


and then there would be no more wars....


sines
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: phuag@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr C J Tilbury)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Drug prices around the globe (was Re: Drugs
Followup-To: alt.rave
Date: 10 Nov 1992 23:16:21 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk
Summary: Keep the kids in ma! There be them drugs around `ere!
Keywords: Prices, Fill_in_the_gaps.

In article <1992Nov9.135935.1@cc.newcastle.edu.au> c9221777@cc.newcastle.edu.au (Brother Redeye) writes:
>I would be interested to hear price comparisions for various drugs based on
>where you are in the world.

I copied the figures from the post, and put them in with these that I have.

 	   UK Price	 AU Price           US Price	
E/tab	 : 10-15 pounds  $35-50             ????
LSD/trip : 3-4 pounds    $25                ????
Speed/g	 : 7-10 pounds   $80-$100 (ouch!)   ????
Coke	 : ????          $150-$200          ????

Anyone care to fill in the gaps?

>For referential purposes, the Australian dollar is worth about 45p (UK),
>$US0.75, DM1.05 - any others can be referenced from this.

Do the math yourselves, my head hurts :).


	keep the faith,

		Chris.
-- 
Chris Tilbury						phuag@csv.warwick.ac.uk
"Q:How many ravers does it take to change a light bulb?
 A:100 : 1 to change it, and 99 to moan about how much better the old one was."
From: archive@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: The Grid E-Head
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:42:07 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <1992Nov11.024054.28390@news.media.mit.edu>, kanarick@media.mit.edu (Craig M. Kanarick) writes:
> In article <1992Nov10.173631.5873@zip.eecs.umich.edu> ndc@mekong.engin.umich.edu (Andrew C Crosby) writes:

> a) Does anyone have their full-length LP called "electric head"?  Was it
> ever released?  Where can I find a copy?  I've been looking for this for
> a long time.

It's pretty old stuff & not techno by a long chalk. Still good, a real
mix of lots of styles, Kraftwerky in places, samples of Islam & fairy
run of the mill industrial songs. Reminds me of Yello in places! (not
that I recommend Yello!)
The mix of Flotation is v. pale in comparison to the 12" and all the tracks 
merge into one another. Great Lp for listening in the car but no individual 
track stands out! Listen before purchase is my advice. 

Where to get it? In the UK I bought it for
#1.99 in a bargin bin, a bargain at that price but not worth it on
import IMO. Lot's of better stuff around. If yer looking for an
outstanding GRID track get the first 12' of 'Figure of 8' & listen to the
trance mix & the Todd Terry re-mixes.

> b) Does anyone have a Grid discography?
 
  No! But would like to hear opinions on the new GRID LP.

Ye archiviste
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: roy@harlqn.co.uk (Roy Badami)
Subject: Re: KLF (was Re: Anybody...starting a KLF mailing list?)
Organization: Harlequin Limited, Cambridge, England
	<1d9v8oINNfdk@lester.appstate.edu> <a1_q#!_@lynx.unm.edu>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:30:14 GMT

>>>>> On Fri, 06 Nov 92 00:06:17 GMT, lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) said:

  Lazlo> As far as I know, they've only deleted their back-catalog, not actually
  Lazlo> destroyed the master tapes.  At any rate, there are a lot of us who are
  Lazlo> still interested in the band despite their current defunctness, and the
  Lazlo> new list is also for discussion of the Orb and other related acts.

Is it just the UK releases (on KLF Communications) that have been
deleted, or have the US releases been deleted too?  I just bought a US
import copy of Chill Out (on Wax Trax) here in the UK.

	-roy
--
Roy Badami, Harlequin Ltd, Barrington Hall, Barrington, Cambridge,  U.K.
Internet: roy@harlqn.co.uk               UUCP: ..!mcsun!uknet!harlqn!roy

When we reach that point, whatever happenned _will_ happen again...
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: rmills@controls.ccd.harris.com (Richard C. Mills)
Subject: Orb
Organization: Harris Controls and Composition
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 04:24:08 GMT



	I dont know about any other tour dates, but I do know they
will be here in Orlando, Florida on Nov. 28 opening for Meat Beat
Manifesto.

		-Richard Mills
rmills@ccd.harris.com
From: J.E.Hazan@newcastle.ac.uk (Jonathan E. Hazan)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: REQUEST: SONG ID
Date: 13 Nov 92 10:01:08 GMT
Organization: University of Durham, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Roy Badami (roy@harlqn.co.uk) wrote:
: I'm sure you all have better things to do than identify songs, but...

Not at the moment, no.

: Could someone identify the track that contains the lines
: 
: "Where's the fuckin' noise?" and "I want some more bass in this house"
: (there was another line, which I can't recall)

It could be "Hardcore Will Never Die", by Q-Bass (I think).  I just 
bought it on the Suburban Base album, which also contains such gems
as Sonz of a Loop Da Loop Era's "Far Out" and "Higherism" ("I was
so high off the ground, I could see for miles around!"), Two Bad Mice
remix of Phuture Assassin's "Future Sound", D'Cruze's "Life" ("Hold
your hands to heaven...  gonna blow your brain cells!"), plus an
extra special bonus record of live mixes by two Suburban Base artists.
It's got a nice picture on the cover too.  Buy it!

Jon.

--
Jonathan Hazan                                J.E.Hazan@durham.ac.uk
University of Durham, UK
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (marvin the martian)
Subject: Re: Drugs
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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 22:47:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.162808.20463@aston.ac.uk> hartnupj@cs.aston.ac.uk
writes: 
|
| phuag@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Chris Tilbury) writes :
|:FACT : There is no such thing as a "nice" drug. There are bad drugs,
|:and there are :"badder" drugs. If you think you're doing yourself any
|:favours by taking them, you're :fooling yourself. (Ps. This is _not_
|:an anti-drugs post. I'm certainly not in any :position to condemn
|:anyone for taking them....)    
|
|Ok, but there's still drugs that make you feel "nice", which is
|probably what 487 (nice name) meant.  Lets take alcohol as a LEGAL example. 
|
|Some people get aggressive and nasty under its influence.  In this
|case alcohol is a nasty drug. 
|Others love everyone they see and laugh a lot.  In this case it's a nice drug.

You could've also mentioned prescription drugs and tobacco.  There is
no doubt in my mind that this person as at one time or another had
some drug prescribed by a doctor and taken it, and, it probably helped
him out.  Thus it is ignorant to say drugs are "bad" or "badder".
Very ignorant.  Especially considering you say "you're in no position
to condemn drug use" and yet you do by statting very boldyl and
blanketly that drug use is bad.  

|John... making no sense.

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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: disc@quads.uchicago.edu (Little Fluffy Cloud)
Subject: Re: Milw. Grave update
Reply-To: disc@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Something fatal.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 03:24:55 GMT

I, being in Chicago, find it really hard to have the resource base that you
all have up there.  What I am wondering is the following:

1) I am interested in representing myself and am interested in finding the
   decision in 1971 and its content

2) I am interested in finding out about your attorney.  I'd like his name,
   address and telephone number.

As far as information I have deduced on my own, here's the scoop.

First I picked apart the charge we were given:  "Aiding and abetting person in
charge of unlicensed public place permitting consumption of alcoholic beverage"
What I found was that, according to Black's Law Dictionary, 5th Ed, which is
pretty much the legal standard in the US, Grave Rave hardly fits the defi-
nition of a public place and most likely we do not fit the definition of 
aiding and abetting the "person in charge."  In addition, I'd like to deter-
mine how they pick the person in charge.

If the "person in charge" is the staff at Grave Rave, the following is true:

On the Grave Rave Ticket, it is deemed "a private event."
Map Point Ticket says that "We will be checking for bottles and metal 
 objects."  This hardly qualifies as "permitting [the] consumption of
 alcoholic beverage[s]."  Further on this point, the person frisking was using
 a metal detector, and asked me whether I had any bottles or cans on me.
Two police officers (or at the very least law enforcement officers) were pre-
 sent: One at the map point and one at the door, frisking.  This gave ravers
 a false sense of security.

Here are some other things:

People under 18 were fined $55.00.  Why not $325.00?  It was, as far as I know,
EXACTLY the same violation.

In one of the news reports typed up, it was conceeded that no alcohol was being
sold.  Little alcohol was found on the premises.  As far as I know, all was two
open 7 oz bottles of Miller Genuine Draft behind the DJ booth and at least 4
identical bottles pulled out of the mailboxes at the location by Milwaukee 
Police.  One bottle was dropped.  My guess was that the bottles were planted 
there by Milwaukee cops.  In addition, alcohol has NEVER been sold at a 
Milwaukee rave.

The violation for shoplifting in the city of Milwaukee is $210.00.  This is an
actual crime.  Is ours?  Not likely.

There's my two cents.  Any comments would be greatly appreciated.

=Jerry Dischler=|Little Fluffy Cloud|=disc@quads.uchicago.edu=

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ebh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Ed Horch)
Subject: Re: Drugs
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 09:07:55 GMT
Keywords: bang bang you're dead

>If you watch the news, etc, then most major american cities are made 
>out to be some kind of war zone, with drug dealers/addicts runnning 
>around killing everyone they see. Is this the case?

The distinction the media fail to make is that the so-called wars
between drug gangs are generally over high-level turf boundaries,
i.e., who gets to supply *all* the coke or *all* the crack to *all*
the mid-level dealers in a neighborhood.  The media are happy enough
to allow us to think that one guy selling crack by the $10 vial 
is more than ready to pull an AK-47 on the next guy.

If all the drug gangs ever killed were each other, we could think
of it as evolution in action, but for some strange reason, they
remain unwilling to take their disputes to a proper battlefield,
preferring to settle it on the streets in question, too bad about
residents, bystanders and crossfire.

The other thing to keep in mind is that there are qualitative 
differences between users of various drugs.  A full-blown crack
or heroin addict in the throes of detox is going to look at his 
next purchase a bit differently from the occasional X buyer looking
for something for this weekend.  

Likewise, a neighborhood full of crack houses and shooting galleries 
will have different characteristics from a neighborhood populated 
by occasional users of other things, which will in turn be different 
from a neighborhood full of "bucket-of-blood" dive bars.  (In one 
place I lived, there was no X or pot or crack or anything, but the 
locals knew exactly which cars had the best tasting antifreeze.)

That said, your average suburban personal-use buyer will never have
to deal with that sort of environment.  Back in my darker days, I
never bought from a "dealer" -- I always bought from friends who
also only bought for personal use and who were willing to pick up
a little extra for me.  I bought beer in far more dangerous places
than I ever bought anything else.

-Ed
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