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From: sdh5@po.CWRU.Edu (Scott D. Hurley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Immortal Companions:  The Doctor's Age & His Companions
Date: 5 Sep 1992 17:45:20 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Ahem.  There is something in _Doctor_Who_ that has been bothering
me for some time.  Has anyone ever noticed that while there was
no companion gap between the Doctor saying he was 745 towards the
end of Tom Baker's Era, and Colin Baker saying he was 912 in
"Russerection of the Daleks" (I think, or was it "Revelation?",
whichever it was took place on Necros).  

Consider the following information:
	1.  Adric was a companion when the Doctor said he was 745
	2.  Adric was still young when Tegan came on board.
	3.  Tegan was maybe (at most) three years older when she
	    left the Doctor's company
	4.  Apparently almost no time took place between 
	    the episode in which Tegan left ("Revelation of the
	    Daleks"--or whatever the name of the episode that had
	    Davros escaping from prison) and "Planet of Fire" in
	    which Peri joined (This can be inferred from both
	    Turlough and the Doctor's interaction with Turlough)
	5.  Peri was at most a year older when the Doctor said
	    that he was 912.

From this information it seems that while the doctor aged nearly
170 years, his companions, in an unbroken line, aged at most
five years!  

Thus the question arises:  Do the Doctor's companions age while 
they are traveling with the Doctor in the TARDIS?

All relevant theories are welcome.  Please contain all responses
to this Board.

Scott D. Hurley

-- 
"You've changed the past Louise, and you know Damn Well we can't
 change the past--we change with it!" - - Coventry in 'Millenium'
"In any universe where time travel is possible . . . eventually
 there will arise a history without time travel." --Larry Niven
From: HISC9016351D@LUST2.LATROBE.EDU.AU (MAMMONE,Robert)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: More Theories About the Doctor's Age
Date: 6 Sep 92 14:21:52 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.22

> P.S. I just thought of others: Romana's regeneration - why can she select
> her new body yet the Doctor can't and was the White Guardian the real WG in
> The Ribos Operation.
And yes, can anyone out there explain the hand behind Sutekh's throne, or
the truck driving along in The Sontaran Experiment.  These are definitly
questions that must be answered to secure the future of the show, and
ensure that the sanity, and sleep of all fans is maintained.  Heh, heh.
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From: mrmuon@next02epsl.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins)
Subject: Re: Continuity Catalog, feel free to add to it!
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:46:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.021441.28322@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>  
ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
> The other little bit was the writer was Terry nation, not Terrance  
Dicks.
I was thinking "Nation" and typing "Dicks". Duhhh!
> 
> >that this Atlantis is a different place than in "Time Monster" named  
> >because of its situation after the Greek island.
> 
> 	Possible.  Certainly possible.  Doesn't really matter much since
> it doesnot't conflict in the first place.
It sort of conflicts because the Greek Atlantis was really blown sky high,  
rather than sunk.

> >> 	President is supposed to search for. 
> >That was the great "Key of Rassilon" not the "Great Key"
> 	No, it wasn't the Key of Rassilon, it was indeed the Great Key.
> 	(I just saw this recently too to reverify this.)
What I meant was that the second key was specifically "of Rassilon"  
whereas I think the first one wasn't (I'm not sure of that though)

Incidentally two other criticisms of "The Invasion of Time" that I have  
heard are "what happened to the rest of the Sontarans" and "what was so  
great about the Demat gun". I hope you get the idea.

> >Although the Hydrogen Inrush in "Castrovalva" was called event one, I'm  
> >pretty sure that they specifically said it was a galactic creation. 
> 
> Yes, Nyssa does refer to it as the creation of the galaxy at one point,
> which seems to contradict many of the other lines in the story.
> This line occurs near the end of part one, at a crisis cliffhanger  
moment,
> and I would suspect this is the area most likely to get changed by a 
> Script Editor, so perhaps Bidmead's original words got changed by the
> editor or perhaps were just said wrong by Sarah Sutton and no one  
noticed
> on the set?
I can't think of any lines it actually contradicts.
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From: danaf@vccsouth28.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.)
Subject: Re: Dr Who film reported official!
Reply-To: danaf@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 18:45:48 GMT

In article <H3ZJqB2w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>, vlad@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Vlad G. Pohnert) writes:
|> gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley) writes:
|> 
|> - 
|> -    Apologies if this is old news! I heard on the Children's TV news
|> - program recently (the one in the slot that was for years occupied by
|> - John Craven's Newsround) that the Dr Who film is now official and WILL
|> - go ahead very soon. Choice of Doctor is still to be decided, but the
|> - favourite at time of report was Dudley Moore (!). Take this news as you will.
|> - 
|> 
|> Hmmmm....I've heard that just too many times before. I guess I'll just 
|> wait until actual filming starts!! In my opinion, doing a Doctor Who 
|> movie now would probably be a sure money maker since we are all starving 
|> to see something new from Doctor Who....
|>  
|> I just hope that it's not Dudley Moore! Get some one unknown is What I 
|> think thay sould do!

Worked well enough the last time, didn't it?

(Now I'm going to be inundated from mail by the ritualistic McCoy-haters...)

|>  
|> Vlad
|> 
|> 
|> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
|> < Vlad G. Pohnert                            >> First thought that >
|> < "BAKA no Baka" Fanzine Co-ordinator        >> Gato has after     >
|> < Want a career in Anime?                    >> seeing the GPO3:   >
|> < Join Strike Force Baka and help kick butt  >> "Gundam in a       >
|> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>breadbox!!" >>>>>>>>

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From: pittman@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chris Pittman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: ALL OUR TOMORROWS: The Doctor and Causality
Date: 5 Sep 92 21:39:05 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at Austin

In article <torresce.715548951@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Carlos E. Torres) writes:
>Scott,
>	I have already thought about what you said in your last post.  In
>so doing, I have come up with my own theory.  I believe the Doctor to be
>'time-protected' (a term I came up with myself - I think).  Time protected
>people follow different strands of different universes and hence appear to
>flow in a straight congruent/coherent fashion.  In other words, it is 
>dependent on them as to where the universe/time flow will next proceed to.

In one episode, one of the companions pointed out that the Doctor's actions
would introduce a paradox, to which the Doctor replied that he was immune
to paradox.  Anybody remember which episode this is?

>Why:  Because the universe would/could not continue if he did not interfere.

...giving the Doctor almost god-like status.  Scary.

>When:  I have followed previous threads and believe the Doctor either was 
>Rassilon or was involved with him alot (or possibly Rassilon set it up so one
>person could do the things that the doctor does). This is where the doctor 
>obtained his 'time protection'.

Or perhaps all Time Lords are naturally 'time-protected'.

>This is my theory as to how the doctor always barely escapes with his life
>and/or saving the universe.  Sometimes he uses his intelligence, but other 
>times he's in a no-win scenario until something miraculous happens.  I
>believe he has outside help!
>	
While we're on the subject of causality, remember 'Terminus'?  The one
where the space station gets sent back in time and causes the Big Bang?
Did it bother anyone else that Terminus was created out of the product
of the Big Bang (the universe), which was created by Terminus, ad infin-
itum?
>
>Note:  These are just my opinions/theories.

Ditto.


-- 
"Let's get those missiles ready to destroy the     | Chris Pittman
universe!!" - They Might Be Giants                 | pittman@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
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From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The future?
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 05:20:53 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

JUst a comment on objectivity.

Seems more like people are missing the point.

Someone once told me, "Let's face it.  All these shows are of escapism."

This is the point of discussion.  Escapism vs. reality.  Are the shows that
contemporary science fiction present just a way of escaping the real world, or
is everything going to turn out for the better.

Hopefully, objectivity can be restored to the discussion, eh????

Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
Treaty of Maastricht, synonymous with the Key to Armageddon.
From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Another Invasion of Time hole
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:43:14 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

OK, here's one more.  According to "The Hand of Fear", the TARDIS is in a
state of temporal grace, and guns can't be fired in there.  Andred's patrol
staser doesn't work in there at the end of the episode 3 cliffhanger.
But the Sontarans blaze away left and right in the TARDIS in the final
episode.  What happened to the temporal grace subsystem?

The Doctor sort of explained this in "Arc of Infinity" when talking about
the Cybermen from "Earthshock" -- "Ah well, these things happen."  It
could be that the temporal grace system was temporarily (temporalarily?)
out of order.  Andred's gun not working is attributed to it being a patrol
staser, which doesn't work in a relative dimension field (whatever that
means).

Either way, it's a little bit sloppy, huh?

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From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Subject: Re: current production status
Keywords: production
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:17:06 GMT

In article <LJR3qB2w165w@scilab.lonestar.org> david@scilab.lonestar.org (david burgess) writes:
>pjaffe@next06epsl.wam.umd.edu (Paul I. Jaffe) writes:
>just "revamping" the series so that it will not be a tired old show.
>> 
>> Is Sylvester McCoy still the doctor or are they now up to #8?
>According to the BBC or whoever annonced it(sorry, I forgot) McCoy is 
>offically a former Doctor.
>
I heard this here from someone else, which I'll repeat now, that the
reason for Sylvester now being referred to as a former Doctor is that he
requested it as any time he went up for a role in something the producers
of said role automatically assumed he was still tied down by Who contracts.


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From: jefft@athena.mit.edu (Jeff Tang)
Subject: Re: The future?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 19:00:23 GMT


In article <mVaqqB2w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:


   Doctor Who :  Mankind will go on.

There's actually an episode set at the twilight of mankind.  They were the
last of the humans and there were these gravity creatures eating them up.  

   Star Trek :  Mankind will be able to control its desteny up till 26th Century
		 AD.

It's acknowledged that the we came this close to losing it all right about
now.

   Buck Rogers:  Mankind should be able to survive till the 26th Century and
		 beyond.

Doomsday hits right about now, and it takes us centuries to rebuild.

--
Jeff Tang
jefft@athena.mit.edu
From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Battlefield
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 05:17:52 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

I was looking over BAttlefield recently and notice 2 things.

1) Britain was using metric for travelling distances.  That will be the day.
   Just having travelled that British motorways, I doubt the UK full ever
fully metrify itself, and I mean stones, gallons, miles are still common.
Doubtful they would die in 7 years, even with Britain having a king.

2) Brigadier - " Speak Czechoslovakian?"  Could someone please tell
Aaronovitch that it is either Czech or Slovak !!  Eeekkkkk!!!!!!!

Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
Treaty of Maastricht, synonymous with the Key to Armageddon.
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From: mrmuon@next02epsl.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins)
Subject: Re: Immortal Companions
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:51:08 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.221616.4159@cs.rose-hulman.edu>  
rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert) writes:
> In "Genesis of the Daleks" the Time Lords pulled the Doctor out of 
> a transmat beam and deposited him on Skaro for an 'outing'.
> A little while later, Sarah and Harry appeared. They could just as  
easily  
> have been left in transit. The Doctor could have polished off the  
Daleks,  
> gone back to the station for the Cybermen and met Sarah and Harry after  
> transmatting back. They'd have never know that he was gone for a week or  
a  
> year or a century...

Perhaps that could have happened, but it didn't. The Doctor found Sarah  
and Harry a couple minutes after he found himself on Skaro.
From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Pescatons On CD
Date: 13 Sep 92 21:10:21 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Sep11.182441.4022@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
>In article <1992Sep11.143830.14950@wam.umd.edu> mrmuon@next01pg2.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins) writes:
>>Unless you have already heard "the Pescatons" and liked it I recomend not  
>>buying it.

>I agree the novel of the Pescatons is atrocious, however the record
>isn't *quite* as bad.

Two words:

HELLO, DOLLY.

One of the most ludicrous scenes Tom Baker has ever had to play.  Pure
camp of the worst kind.

I've heard the novel at least cut that bit out.  That's one point in
Victor Pemberton's favor, at least.
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Subject: RE: PBS & SCIFI CHANNELS 
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 14:41:25 PDT
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (rock) writes:

> DV>From: doug.vermes%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Doug Vermes) 
<Lots of various complaints about awful cable companies who won't
put up the Sci-Fi channel deleted>

Well I just got off the phone with my cable company, and they told me
that they "aren't going to do anything about the Sci-Fi channel until
after they installed fiber optics equipment everywhere".  So I said
oh great when's that, and she replied....."late in 1993".  Ouch!
So even when they install the fiber optics equipment, she still
didn't give me a positive that they "would" get it.  I've been hearing
about this fiber optics installation for a few years now, and how
my cable company is planning on upgrading their system...and that we'll
have all this neat stuff.....well I'll believe it when I see it.

-Mad as hell and not gunna take it anymore!!!!!!!



-------------------------------------------------------------------
Catherine Beckstead                    ace@kryton.uucp
"Do you want to argue with a can of deodorant that registers
NINE on the Richter scale?"        --Ace, in "Dragonfire"
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From: johnf@apollo.hp.com (John Francis)
Subject: Re: Deborah Watling
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:46:36 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1992Sep10.042144.3379@ulowell.ulowell.edu> pcrossma@cs.ulowell.edu (The Gillrocker) writes:
>In article <Bu0z7x.Huu@apollo.hp.com> johnf@apollo.hp.com (John Francis) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep3.202243.4249@ulowell.ulowell.edu> pcrossma@cs.ulowell.edu (The Gillrocker) writes:
>>>It sure was....WHAT A HOT BABE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>Sigh. She's old enough to be your mother. (not that that appears to be saying much).
>
>What makes you think that....?  Do you know how old I am???  I think NOT!

What makes me think that?  Well, judging by the level of (im)maturity shown
in your posting (as evidenced by, amongst other things, use of a pseudonym
instead of your real name, the excessive use both of capital letters and of
exclamation marks), I feel fairly safe is assuming that you are no older than
in your lower thirties, and that probably ten years younger would be a more
accurate call. Look at how old Deborah Watling is on the screen, look at when
the series was made, and do the arithmetic yourself.

>                [ . . . . ]
>I think you should take your generalities and shove them where the TARDIS 
>doesn't shine....in the black hole of your ass....immature indeed....

Resorting to somewhat feeble and unimaginative attempts at offensive name
calling when you can't refute the argument any other way? As I said,immature.
I couldn't have made the point better myself.

>                [ . . . . ]                            I have been on this 
>net for 4 years....I have never even seen the likes of you.....so go crawl 
>under a rock.

Four years?   Four whole years?   Are we supposed to be impressed by this?
I've been posting to the net from just this account for considerably longer
than that.   Unfortunately in that span I have seen the likes of you many
times, and am resigned to the fact that I will see more in the future.

I'm not going to go away.  I'd prefer it if you stopped posting garbage,
but it's a free country, and I know how to use killfiles.  One final word
of advice - don't expect to get away with posting inanities to the net
without being taken to task for it occasionally.  Mine was just a gentle
reprimand - you haven't really experienced the net until you've been
properly flamed.  (Flames from HBM and others of his ilk don't count).
-- 
John Francis                                johnf@apollo.hp.com
Seen passing on the net:  Spotted Owl - the *other* white meat!
From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Sorry for the delay
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 05:47:29 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

1) Quizze results from q6 and questions for quiz 7 are up and coming.  I have
to   sort of this latest crash on my side of the universe.

2)  Clubs Listing has been delayed till userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca gets more
money.  I did make an application, however the results are unknown for the
moment.  Delays courtesy of U of A Computer Science undergraduates, so please
be tolerant.

Also like quoting Doug Adams: God final message to his creation, "Sorry for
the inconvenience".




Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
Treaty of Maastricht, synonymous with the Key to Armageddon.
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From: jogulin@pub_one.fia.dmg.ml.com (Joseph Ogulin)
Subject: The quarry! (was: Re: Location Filming)
Organization: The Rift from Here to There
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:30:20 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.204953.23341@cs.nott.ac.uk>, nlc@vulcan.xtel.co.uk (Neil Cook) writes:
|> I don't know about this, but there's a quarry somewhere in Britain where just
|> about half the BBC sci-fi series ever made have been shot. You know - the 
|> obligatory desolate planet in Dr Who, Blakes 7 etc. all shot in the same
|> bloody quarry!

Let's hear it for the old "two sets and the quarry" episodes!  Those were some
of the best ones... (eg, "The Three Doctors")

-- 
==> "You never f**king know the answer when it's important." --The Doctor <==
Joe Ogulin

jogulin@camelot.fia.dmg.ml.com		joe@monroe.pilot.dmg.ml.com
jogulin@apollo.stevens-tech.edu		gcs_jogulin@stevens.bitnet

Disclaimer:  The above article is solely my opinion and does not necessar-
ily reflect that of my employer.  The content is my responsibility alone.
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From: pcrossma@cs.ulowell.edu (The Gillrocker)
Subject: Re: Deborah Watling
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 19:34:55 GMT

In article <4908@daily-planet.concordia.ca> david@donald.concordia.ca (David Gaudine) writes:
>Why doesn't anybody like Nyssa?

My boss likes Nyssa, but he doesn't read the group...he has a a copy of the
Keeper of Traken novel that he won't sell to me....I have begged offered and
put cash in his face.  Still no dice.


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From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: The future?
Date: 11 Sep 92 03:32:35 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <18ohhfINN3g6@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> sdh5@po.CWRU.Edu (Scott D. Hurley) writes:
>
>Quantum physics states that thought affects the universe?!!!
>
>By any chance are you refering to the hypothesis put forth by
>Heisenberg saying that by observing an event, one affects the
>observed?  Hmm.  I suppose that if you extrapolate upon that you
>could say that as observer affects observed, as the perception
>affects the perceived, then recognition can retroactively affect
>the deed?
>
>While this may seem fine in theory, it makes sheer mess of 
>causality, and besides, Heisenberg was refering to the absorption
>of energy emitted by the object, and possibly the observer's 
>'very' weak gravitational field affecting the observed.
>
>Note though, that with the experiments done with dual light 
>beams that were formerly one beam, there seems to be some 'very'
>strange correlation between the two that exceeds any possibility
>of said interaction occuring at less that 'C', which leaves us
>(and them especially) with a nasty snarl in our physics, one 
>which will hopefully be worked out in a manner that preserves
>causality.
>
>On the other hand, we're talking about _Doctor_Who_ which tosses
>causality to the winds, so what am I complaining about?
>
>Maybe one day we'll know the answer to all of these things . . .
>but, then again, maybe we won't.
>
>Scott D. Hurley
>

Of course, for anyone who hasn't figured this out, all this "observer
changes the oobserved by observing it extrapolation of the quantum 
theory" business is the basis for Block Transfer Computation as
seen in "Logopolis" and "Castrovalva."  The Logopolitans had discovered
a form of mathematics that could describe things so well, they could
actually change and create structure, and from structure, matter and
energy.  
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