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From: steel@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Nick Steel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Saddam
Date: 28 Jan 1993 01:22:20 GMT
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In article <1993Jan27.180805.23713@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu> rached@sample.eng.ohio-state.edu (Rached Zantout) writes:
>Hi fellow Netters
>
>Let's not go to extremes when we analyze something.
>
>Those of us who say :" Give me proof that there were Kuwaitis raped during Iraq's
>invasion of Kuwait", please be a little bit sensitive.
>
>What proof do you want ?  A cameraman present at the time a Iraqi Soldier raped a
>Kuwaiti sister ? Even then you might ask for proof that this incident happened
>and it is not one of Hollywood's Cinema tricks.

We only hear about the Iraqis raping Kuwaitis, but none talks
about what the stupid Kuwaitis did to the Palestinans.  You
wish to know a RAPE case done by the ugly Kuwaiti government?  :
There is a LAW SUITE taking place right now in the UN by
my friend NAEEM (form S. Lebanon) where the Kuwaiti soldiers raped
his sister 5 months after UNCLE SAM kicked out the Iraqis, thinking
she was Palestinian. During rape they told her: CRY FOR ALAQSA,
not your *****.  YES the government of Kuwait is being sued.

No one is denying, or should deny the behavior of the
iraqis in Kuwait, but that's what happens during the wars.
In Lebanon, some of the Syrian Soldiers were just pure
innocent 5-time-praying people, and some were jerks.
Generalization is just not the right way to address things.
Can you say that the Palestinians sold Palestine to 
the invadors?  No you shouldn't most Palestinians will not
give up one inch, but jerks like Arafat and Ashrawi 
have officially sold it.

jle
From: bashar@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Bashar_Abouseido)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: RE: STOP IT (Re:(Ishaq S. Azzam))
Date: 27 Jan 93 03:28:14 GMT
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=>From: ai843@yfn.ysu.edu (Ishaq S. Azzam)
=>Subject: RE: STOP IT
=>>In article <1993Jan22.224241.29325@news.ysu.edu>, ai843@yfn.ysu.edu (Ishaq S. A
=> [...]
=>My judgement was not based on old history, it was based on the appeal
=>to stop such a war and on your articles that follow that message, as
=>you promised to stop, you keep coming back.  Even this new article
=>is an evident of this.  I hesitated to write back, but I won't do
=>it next time period.  We all need some self-control.
=>


Mr. Ishap would you please stop that !!! you're starting the war again.
Keep your opinion for you. The war is over !!!

And I would like to shake Ibaa's hands for his nice reply and stoping
this war and not replying to your article.

Also I would say to Aziz "please don't reply to this subject again".
Iam a muslim and I respect your believes and I respect all christian
fellows. I've beening living in a society where muslims are the majority
and we have christian families too, every thing was fine 
and we have never experienced any problem with each other.                                   

=>
=>Now you have to calm down again and control yourself.  What I said there is
=>a true fact about the Quran.  Every honest muslim belives what is in
=>Quran is true and so is that fact.  When I said that the only way to
=>change the thinking of muslims is to modify what is in Quran, and since that
=>is impossible, you have to either accept that fact about islam and muslims
=>or ??   I better control myself.  "self control is the keyword my buddy"


Well, You (Ishaq) have to know that not everything in the muslims' mind 
is in the quran.

=>[...]
=>A final word:
=>R     e           l                    a                                  x
=>
=>
=>- IA
=>

Ishaq ... final word .... close this subject please ......


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From: khater@sun14.vlsi.uwaterloo.ca (Issam Abu-Khater)
Subject: Urgent message
Keywords: Urgent
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:45:36 GMT

Subject: Urgent Message
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Keywords: Palestine, Donations, Prisonners

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From: blais@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Donald E. Blais)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Be careful... The dirty plan...
Date: 24 Jan 1993 12:01:31 -0600
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
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In article <jhardono.9.727790700@ucs.indiana.edu> jhardono@ucs.indiana.edu (JUMAHADI HARDONO) writes:
>	Have you heard a speech by Ya.. Shamir (Israel's prime Minister)
>about Israel's claim on Arab land from Nile river to Euphrate river according
>to jews bible (Torah)? 

According to one verse in the Torah...

Genesis 15:18                           br'shyt 15,18

On that day                             bywm
YHWH made a covenant                    hhw' krt yhwh
with Abram, saying,                     't-'brm bryt l'mr
"To your offspring                      lzr`k ntty
I assign this land,                     't-h'rS hz't
from the river of Egypt                 mnhr mSrym
to the great river,                     `d-hnhr hgdl
the river Euphrates...                  nhr-prt

Note that the Torah says, "from the river of Egypt to the great river,
the river Euphrates".  The Nile is not mentioned.  Scholars are in
agreement that the "river of Egypt" refers to a wadi, perhaps the Wadi
al-Arish, which separates Judah from the Sinai desert of Egypt.

At its peak in the 10th century BC, the empire of Solomon controlled
land north of Damascus as far as the Euphrates river.  The inheritance
boundaries specified elsewhere in the Torah are less expansive.
-- 
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From: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Shaqeeqa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Saddam
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:34:15 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <1993Jan27.133258.26805@dsg.cs.tcd.ie> ahmed@dsg.cs.tcd.ie (Ahmed El-Habbash) writes:
>
>Is that relevant to the discussion about Saddam and the gulf crisis ?
>
>I was trying to find some good analysis to the whole situation, but
>unfortunately the whole talk was concluded by those final statements,
>given above. Was there a need for all that ?  Is it common among 

Well, why you are trying to figure it out, it is pretty obvious (to me,
anyway) that this was initiated by the pro-Saddam Hussein supporters
as a way of offsetting the subject matter to their convenience and
personal biasedness of the situation.

>Arabs that they respond and react when it is not needed, while they stay
>dumb, blind and deaf when they are required to respond. 

And it seems that you follow your own theories.

What I see is how you conveniently let the other flammatory posts by
Samir ("thank God some Muslims still use COMMON sense") and Nabeel pass.
Are you using your own inclination when stepping into arguments, or do
you practice impartiality as a rule of thumb?

I've always made my political and religious point of view very clear and
tried what was in my power to post clear-cut and legitimate postings here
(especially with regard to this thread), but I will not tolerate personal
attacks and prejudices based on what I say.  That is, I will respond *and*
react whether some like it or not.
 

Anisa
From: chao6@husc11.harvard.edu (James Chao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria,soc.culture.canada
Subject: Model United Nations in the Czech Republic
Date: 23 Jan 93 00:43:21 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

(If possible, please print out and post for people who might be
interested)

To all those interested in international relations, politics, and the
United Nations -- WorldMUN is a great forum for the discussion of 
current issues being debated by the United Nations today: 

Harvard World Model United Nations (WorldMUN) is an international
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United Nations.  The second annual WorldMUN conference will be held from
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The Czech Republic.  

Ten committees, representing the General Assembly, Economic and Social
Council, and Specialized Agencies of the United Nations, will discuss
issues from the actual UN agenda.  In addition to the formal debate of
resolutions, committee sessions will be augmented by presentations from
politicians, businessmen, scholars, and activists who have helped shape
the dramatic world events of recent years.

In this era of momentous political change, WorldMUN seeks to assess the
role of the United Nations in a new world order.  WorldMUN marks the first
truly international simulated United Nations where participants play the
roles of their own nation's ambassadors.  WorldMUN strives to teach
tomorrow's leaders about the United Nations and its methods of conflict
resolution.  It aims to foster skills in negotiation and debate, in order
that delegates may formulate resolutions on topics currently discussed in
the real United Nations.  These resolutions will be sent to the actual
United Nations committees.

WorldMUN 1993 will take place at the Hotel Diplomat in Prague,
The Czech Republic.  The Hotel Diplomat is Prague's most modern conference
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Delegate registration is $US60 per delegate.  For more information, please
reply to this e-mail address or write/fax:
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Harvard World Model United Nations 1993
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Fax:  001-617-493-6995

James Chao
chao6@husc.harvard.edu
From: lb@cs.man.ac.uk (Luben Boyanov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: Goce Delchev
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:44:00 GMT
Organization: Dept Computer Science, University of Manchester, U.K.

In article <Jan24.212653.40170@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> irakliot@lance.colostate.edu writes:
>In article <7417@m1.cs.man.ac.uk>, lb@cs.man.ac.uk (Luben Boyanov) writes:
>|> On the 23rd of January 1872, in the small village called Kukush (about 40
>|> km north of Salonica, now - Thessalonica), 
>
>Thessaloniki has been known with this name for over 2,300 bud. Just because
>for a few years some barberians was living around and weren't able to say
>Thessaloniki, doesn't mean that that's not the name of the city.

This is a matter for the Turks to reply, as Salonica was the name of the
city used during the Ottoman Empire. Thessaloniki was never under Bulgarian
rule, even though, there is a name used in Bulgaria 'Solun', but the reason
for having a Bulgarian name is that for a long time, many Bulgarians lived
closed and some in the city. As a matter of fact, during the 19th century,
the biggest population of Thessaloniki (at that time Salonica) was Jewish
and all travelers describe it as the Jewish city. I think they (the Jews,
during the mid 19th century in Thessaloniki) were something like 2/3 from
the 60,000 inhabitants.

Nowadays I think Thessaloniki is almost entirely Greek city and one of the
biggest and most beautiful ones, so maybe the readers will be interested to
hear a bit more about its present.

> Thessaloniki
>is a greek name.

Absolutely agree.

>|> The proud father - Nikola Delchev didn't know that his first male boy
>                                                                ^^^^^^^^
>
>I see. So for your people is possible to have a female boy as well? 
>Interesting!

For "my" people, like for most of the "other" people, it is possible to
have several boys, hence 1 of them is the first. Very simple. Goce Delchev
had 2 sisters born before him, and 2 brothers - after him. So - Goce was
the first male boy. From my point of view - nothing amazingly interesting.
People had more children at that time.


>|> "With his love towards the people, Goce was a genuine humanist;
>|> with his self-confidence - a real fighter; with his foretellings -
>|> a true prophet."
>
>And again here, we are talking about a Bulgarian origin person?

Absolutely. Goce Delchev hiself claimed he was Bulgarian.
 

>Leo J Irakliotis                 irakliot@eva.lance.colostate.edu


Luben
From: A7571DAC@vm.univie.ac.at (TIETZE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: SDS: 110-(3+4)<106 |||
Date: 27 Jan 93 14:53:32 GMT
Organization: University of Vienna


         SDS se samoizklyuchi i e veche samo Nr.2 v _HC_

Bqrzam da sqobshtya, che snoshti v parl.grupa na SDS s obiknovenno
mnozinstvo vzeli reshenie da bqdyat izklyucheni:

Dimitqr LUDZHEV (bil zacherknat 59x)
Asen MICHKOWSKI ( "       "     57x)

i Yanko KOZHUHAROV - se izdqnil kriminalno: na letishteto v Moskva
                     bil zaloven s 3,5kg zlato+pistolet...

Za da stane vqzmozhno tova, spored pqrvonachalniya pravilnika bilo
neobchodimo 2/3-mnozinstvo, tqj kato tova bilo nerealistichno, s
obiknoveno mnozinstvo pravilnika bil izmenen.

V znak na solidarnost s tyah napusnali dobrovolno SDS i drugi 4:

prof.Petqr MARKOV - avtor na deklaraciyata na "sinite mravki",
                     kojto predi nyakolko dni bil maltretiran ot
                     "inakomisleshti" ne bil pritesnen ot
                     sluchiloto se...(?)
Georgi KOSTOV
? ATANASOV
+ oshte 1

Ochakva se skoro da gi posledva i ostanalata chast ot "B12",
koyato izglezhda shte bqde zatrudnena da stane samostoyatelna
parl.grupa. Zatova sa neobhodimi naj-malko 20...

B^agu


P.S.:  Za Zh.Zh. polozhenieto se bilo veche dostatqchno uspokoilo,
       za da pozvoli (sled nyakoloko mesechna pauza) otsqstvieto
       mu ot stranata. Toj e na pqt za Davos (CH) na ezhegodniya
       svetovno-ikonomicheski forum, kqdeto v petqk predvizhda
       da proiznese slovoto si. Tam toj smyatal da nablegne speciyalno
       na tova, da se vqstanovyat naj-bqrzo rezultirashtite ot boykotite
       (sreshtu Irak'90/91 i Yu) shteti na BG...
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From: Howard Frederick <hfrederick@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Date: 24 Jan 93 15:37 PST
Subject: Europe in Turmoil*Media*Call4Papers
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From: penev@venezia (Penio Penev)
Subject: Re: Narodna prikazka
Organization: Rockefeller University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 13:35:31 GMT
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I am pleasantly surprised of the lower case and the lack two carriage
returns between the lines of the posting from this source. The article
is far more readable in this form. Keep on!

-- Penio.
 
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From: penev@venezia (Penio Penev)
Subject: Re: Goce Delchev
Organization: Rockefeller University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 05:29:34 GMT
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James Tsillas (jtsilla@damon.ccs.northeastern.edu) wrote:
: 
: And today go 40km north of Thessaloniki and guess what country you are
: in. This is the kind of lore that appeals to the expansionist and the
: war monger. This is why Greece is concerned.
: 
: 

Nobody tried to say what country is where. Nobody tried to say what
country should be where. All the posting of Luben was about was the
birth place, birth date, a few biographical facts and a contemporary's
attitude towards the some features of the character of a particular
person.

I guess, that a person has the right to be born wherever his mother
happens to be in the 9th month of her pregnancy and be named however
his parents (or he himself after growing old enough) have decided. Or
am I wrong?

-- Penio.
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From: s0499528@let.rug.nl (R. Dijkhuis)
Subject: Re: Mickey mouse and Donald Duck
Organization: Faculteit der Letteren, Rijksuniversiteit Groningen, NL
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 11:16:14 GMT

In article <1jjlcbINN3me@colwick.csv.warwick.ac.uk> marat@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr M Brunetti) writes:
>From: marat@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr M Brunetti)
>Subject: Mickey mouse and Donald Duck
>Date: 20 Jan 1993 13:51:07 -0000
>Hi!
>I'm doing a serious (!!!) linguistic research.
>If there is a traslation in your own language of Walt Disney's comics,
>I would like to know the names of the following characters:

Here are the Dutch versions

>1) Donald Duck
	Donald duck
>2) Uncle Scrooge (Donald's rich uncle)
	Oom dagobert

>3) Hewey,Dewey, Louie (Donald's nephews)
	Kwik Kwek en Kwak

>4) Daisy Duck (Donald's girlfriend)
	Katrien Duck
>5) GrandMa Duck (Ducks' grandmother)
	Oma Duck
>6) Gladstone (that very lucky duck)
	Guus Geluk
>7) Beagle Boys (those brothers who try always to steal Uncle Scrooge's
>money)
	De Zware Jongens
>8) Magica de Spell (the witch who try to steal Uncle Scrooge's first coin)
	Zwarte Magica 
>9) the rich opposer of Uncle Scrooge
	Govert Goudglans
>10) Gyro Gearloose (the scientist)
	Willie Wortel
>11) Mickey Mouse
	Mickey Mouse
>12) Goofy (Mickey's friend)
	Goofy
>13) Chief O'Hara (Mickey's policeman friend)
	????
>14) Big Bad Pete (the criminal, Mickey's opposer)
	Boris Boef
>15) The extraterrestrial (very thin, with his small pockets containing
>everything)
	???? I know which character this is, but can't remember his/her 
name (gender seemed to differ from story to story)

>I would ask you to mail to me, not to the newsgroup, since I 
don't>read usually this newsgroup.

I'm posting anyway, because the reply option on my software is very buggy, 
and because I like to show o....erhm...compare with other people's findings.

Now, what are the equivalents in other languages of

Donald Duck's angry neighbour (Bolderbast in Dutch)

The founder of Ducktown (Can't remember his name in Dutch right now)

Grandma Duck's helper (Gijs Gans in Dutch)

The Chicken (Klaartje Kip in Dutch)

The Cow (Clarabella Koe)?



>IMPORTANT: it is not necessary to know the name of ALL 
characters.>Also partial contributions are welcome.
>
>Maurizio Brunetti
>
>
Reinder
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