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From: steve@ecf.toronto.edu (Steve Kotsopoulos)
Subject: Re: ditches
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:06:11 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.111917.4751@verifone.com> rachim_t1@verifone.com writes:
>I can't pass up a thread on ditches without mentioning some of Hawaii's
>legendary gutters of death.  

Hey, maybe you know a couple guys (from Hawaii) I met a few years ago.
I don't remember their names (Derek? & ????), but they were brothers,
and one of them skated ramps on his knees!

I remember skating at Fallbrook one night, and Gator was totally blown
away by this guy; he was doing ally-oops, inverts and airs over the channel!

I have a picture of him riding Hawk's mini-ramp, maybe I'll scan it in
and post it.

later sk8ers
-- 
Steve Kotsopoulos                   mail:   steve@ecf.toronto.edu
Systems Analyst                     bitnet: steve@ecf.UTORONTO.BITNET
Engineering Computing Facility      uucp:   uunet!utai!ecf!steve
University of Toronto               phone:  (416) 978-5898
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: thoft@aud2.aud.auc.dk
Subject: RAD in Denmark
Organization: Aalborg University Center, Denmark
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:02:55 GMT


I can only speak for my part of Denmark (north), but yeah..it is kinda
hard to find RAD in the shops here. Everything is hard to get here
these days, 'cause in a year (I've been in London so I don't know why)
everybody has quit skating. There's one shop left..they sell a tiny bit
of skate-stuff from the back of the shop and you'll have to order most
of the tings you want. 
The strange thing is that they stopped AFTER we've got the indoor park
....but hey..we've got all for ourselves now...nah, it get's sort of
boring.

Is the same thing happening other places, or is this place weird ?

        Janne
.


Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: fgiraffe@well.sf.ca.us (Frank Giraffe)
Subject: Re: RAD (was Re: Sami in London)
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:29:28 GMT


Jack-
Tower Records carries RAD out here. I have seen two different issues in the
last few months, but didn't notice the publishing dates. Check it out.
Please make it stop raining.
Please make it stop raining.
Please make it stop raining.
-Frank
-- 
>Frank Giraffe- fgiraffe@well.sf.ca.us - {apple,pacbell,ucbvax}!well!fgiraffe
>As the noose of narco-militarism tightens 'round our necks, we worry about
>  burning flags and pee in jars at work to keep our jobs.  -- Jello Biafra
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: johnlake@microsoft.com (John Lake)
Subject: Re: where to shread in Santa Cruz?
Date: 12 Jan 93 03:08:38 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Distribution: alt

In article <ANDY.93Jan8165041@elviss.eng.sun.com> andy@elviss.eng.sun.com (Andrew Davidson) writes:
>
>Hi
>	I am a newbie to this news group, but really an old f-art.
>(well over the age of the average skate/mall rat) Anyway Santa gave me
>a new skateboard for xmas. Does anyone know of some good place to ride
>(ie bowls, half-pipes) in the Santa Cruz or Palo Alto area? are any of
>these places in doors? 
>
>	Alittle background: I still surf/wind surf regularly, but have
>not been on a skateboard in 15 years. At best I was a very fe-bile
>half pipe rider. But I want to get back into. particularly in the
>summer when there are not waves or wind
>
>ANDROID
>

Hey Andrew, get your butt back to alt.surfing, we're low on posts ya' know.


just kidding

I couldn't resist!



John H. Lake
From: andy@elviss.eng.sun.com (Andrew Davidson)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: where to shread in Santa Cruz?
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:50:41
Organization: MASTERS OF THE KNOWN UNIVERSE
Distribution: alt
NNTP-Posting-Host: elviss


Hi
	I am a newbie to this news group, but really an old f-art.
(well over the age of the average skate/mall rat) Anyway Santa gave me
a new skateboard for xmas. Does anyone know of some good place to ride
(ie bowls, half-pipes) in the Santa Cruz or Palo Alto area? are any of
these places in doors? 

	Alittle background: I still surf/wind surf regularly, but have
not been on a skateboard in 15 years. At best I was a very fe-bile
half pipe rider. But I want to get back into. particularly in the
summer when there are not waves or wind

ANDROID

Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: byron@athena.mit.edu (Jack Miller)
Subject: RAD (was Re: Sami in London)
Organization: SKaters At Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:54:35 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.163224.1@aud2.aud.auc.dk> thoft@aud2.aud.auc.dk writes:
>
>I saw your friend Sami in the new RAD mag skating at my old local spot

	Hey, now wait a minute, my friend just went to London for a
visit and I asked her to bring me back a copy of RAD.  She said that
the guy at the shop told her it went under some months back.  Are you
telling me it's still around?  Cool.

				--Halloween Jack.
				  Damn this Mullen is small.
From: sralsto@eis.calstate.edu (Scott)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: .,.
Date: 12 Jan 93 02:57:50 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

I was skating Cardiff elementary today with a couple of friends, and then
all of a sudden, Grant Brittain (photog), Kris Marchovich, Koby Newell,
some Alien Workshops pro that I didn't recognize and another tall guy
showed up.  It was pretty cool watching them.. Markovich was doing f-side
180 backwards front truck grinds on a plastic picnic table top... ollying
to nose manual heel flip on the table top.  It was pretty impressive.

But they sure flailed a lot :)
From: sralsto@eis.calstate.edu (Scott)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: Action Sports Retail Show
Date: 8 Jan 93 23:19:11 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

Hmm.. maybe I should go! :)  I'm pretty sure it'd be a pass-admission type
situation... my aunt and uncle run a jewelry type store deal and they went
to it last year, I believe, to exhibit some of their wares (they're always
trying to divert new buying audiences :)  Maybe I'll see if they can get
me in.

Small world!
From: rachim_t1@verifone.com
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: ditches
Date: 7 Jan 93 11:19:17 -1000
Organization: VeriFone Inc., Honolulu HI

I can't pass up a thread on ditches without mentioning some of Hawaii's
legendary gutters of death.  
The first time I walked up to Wallos I thought, if I skate this, I'm going to
die.  Anyway, I didn't die, but did take some pretty heavy slams. I'm not even
going to describe this ditch, cause I'm sure you've all seen it in a video or
mag.  
We used to do day long ditch tours of the island, starting from one end of the
island to the other.  There's so many ditches it would take into the night to
skate them all.  All varieties from small, tight walls to huge 30 yard walls. 
Some have a crazy downhill slope, forcing you to go faster than you'd ever want
to.  Some are skated regularly and have curbs stacked up. Some are hit and run
busts. 
I'm rambling on. My mind is foggy with memories.  Ditch skating seems like a
faze for some reason, but at the time it felt like True skating.

-R.

Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Subject: Trenches & other "natural" terrain
Reply-To: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Organization: Monitor Company / IE
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:56:53 GMT

Does anyone in the Boston area know of any open-air semi-vertical skateable  
trenches, valleys or sinkholes?

There's a neat sculpture near the Government Center Parking Garage that used  
to face the sidewalk in such a way that you could skate right up it (kindof a  
giant wedge-shaped metal thing) but they turned it so it's facing directly  
into the street.

There's a neat trench all the way around the Yellow Trucking facility on  
Rivermoor Street in West Roxbury--kindof small but looks like it would be  
fun.  Haven't tried it yet--problem is it requires a car to reach, and I  
ain't got.

What I really want to know is if anyone has snuck into the Third Harbor  
Tunnel project and seen any giant pipes to skate--have to do a scouting  
mission around the area by day and see what there is.

- Mike
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: steve@ecf.toronto.edu (Steve Kotsopoulos)
Subject: Re: snowboarding
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:56:28 GMT

In article <C0G6zz.1JL@monitor.com> michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson) writes:
>Does anyone know if there is or will be a snowboarding newsgroup anytime in  
>the near future?  I posted to some skiing groups and nobody has a clue--one  
>would think there are enough snowboarders out there that there would already  
>be a group.

My site has rec.sport.snowboarding, but it is a very low-volume group.
-- 
Steve Kotsopoulos                   mail:   steve@ecf.toronto.edu
Systems Analyst                     bitnet: steve@ecf.UTORONTO.BITNET
Engineering Computing Facility      uucp:   uunet!utai!ecf!steve
University of Toronto               phone:  (416) 978-5898
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: RAD (was Re: Sami in London)
From: sralsto@eis.calstate.edu (Scott)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:32:42 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

Triks, Frosted Mini Wheels... what will Santa Cruz come up with next? 
Also Black Cats... hmm.  That's all that comes to mind in their new
creative packaging flurry.  However all of the speed wheels I've had I've
thought were cheesy.. so I tend to avoid them.  Spitfires & Union wheels
are great, though I'm still sold on my McEnroes :)  You _can't_ hurt em,
they're so hard.
From: sralsto@eis.calstate.edu (Scott)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: where to shread in Santa Cruz?
Date: 9 Jan 93 01:46:03 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

Hmm... I've only skated Santa Cruz briefly... but there's a public park
ditch thing called Derby Park close to there.  Look it up.  It's really
fun... if anyone recalls all of the Santa Cruz/SMA footage from a ditch
trench snake course type thing in any mags or videos, it was probably
Derby Park.
From: thoft@aud2.aud.auc.dk
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Sami in London
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:32:24 GMT
Organization: Aalborg University Center, Denmark


Hey......you Berlin kid....

I saw your friend Sami in the new RAD mag skating at my old local spot
the legendery Meanwhile (II) It's that place under the motorway, you
know...
You didn't go with him to London by any chance, did you .........

        Janne

oh. and tell him it's a nice picture !!!
.
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: steve@ecf.toronto.edu (Steve Kotsopoulos)
Subject: Re: ditches
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:58:47 GMT

In article <C0K5sI.5rn@eis.calstate.edu> sralsto@eis.calstate.edu (Scott) writes:
>Derek and Michael Ho?  Sounds plausible.  (I used to be really into
>surfing for a few years.)

No. One of them was named Gareth, I think.

>A lot of surfers are great skaters.. take Christian Fletcher.  Personally,
>I prefer skating tenfold at this juncture, but there may come a time that
>I'll be back into surfing. Whatever.

I've never surfed, but I saw Christian Fletcher in a snowboard video recently.
He is SO RAD!!!!! He was pulling big airs, over-rotated ollies (a-la Chris
Miller), shifties and lots of other unbelievable stuff.
-- 
Steve Kotsopoulos                   mail:   steve@ecf.toronto.edu
Systems Analyst                     bitnet: steve@ecf.UTORONTO.BITNET
Engineering Computing Facility      uucp:   uunet!utai!ecf!steve
University of Toronto               phone:  (416) 978-5898
From: sralsto@eis.calstate.edu (Scott)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: Sk8'ing in San Diego?
Date: 4 Jan 93 23:59:35 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

Heh... cool.  It really depends on what part of San Diego you'll be in. 
There are some funky laws some places, but most places are fine to skate. 
Downtown San Diego has some really weird planters and parking structures,
but the best time to skate those is at night, as there are so many
lame-ass security guards, but that area is highly inhabited by street
people.. who all call "Hey, white boy!" when I skate by, so watch yourself
:)  Whatever.  One of the weirdest things I saw was a 15 story parking
structure there.. my friends and i went up to the top to skate :), and
there were so many wall-ride marks on walls inches away from the edge adn
a 15 story drop.  If that's not insane I don't know one is.  I was paying
close attention to the wheel marks, and one set actually went to axle on
the top!  Damn.  But I don't live in San Diego, but north San Diego
county, so I don't skate there often.  La Jolla is great to skate, which
is close.  So is Encinitas though, where I live :)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: steve@ecf.toronto.edu (Steve Kotsopoulos)
Subject: Re: Sk8'ing in San Diego?
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:53:10 GMT

In article <JOSHUA5.93Jan4164924@csa.bu.edu> joshua5@cs.bu.edu writes:
>Going to be spending a week in San Diego at the end of January.   How
>(il)legal is it to ride a skateboard there?
>					-- Jim.

Are you going for the USENIX conference? If so, I'll be there too.
-- 
Steve Kotsopoulos                   mail:   steve@ecf.toronto.edu
Systems Analyst                     bitnet: steve@ecf.UTORONTO.BITNET
Engineering Computing Facility      uucp:   uunet!utai!ecf!steve
University of Toronto               phone:  (416) 978-5898
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: tim_lb@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tim Leighton-boyce)
Subject: San Diego/Sami/Rad
Reply-To: tim_lb@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:20:00 +0000

>In article <JOSHUA5.93Jan4164924@csa.bu.edu> joshua5@cs.bu.edu
writes:
>>Going to be spending a week in San Diego at the end of January.  
How
>>(il)legal is it to ride a skateboard there?
>>                                      -- Jim.
>
>Are you going for the USENIX conference? If so, I'll be there too.
 
If so, how about a side-trip? The Action Sports Retailer Show
(skateboard industry trade show) takes place in San Diego on the
weekend of Jan 23-4, which means there'll be an even higher than
normal quota of skaters in town.
 
Sami in London:
Or Sami in Northampton?
That picture dates back to last summer when Sami was on a visit with
Christian Heitmann. Both of them were back just before Christmas for
the competition at the new indoor skatepark Tim Payne has just
finished in Northampton.
 
Rad Magazine:
 
> Are you telling me it's still around?  Cool.
 
I don't know wtf that person was doing telling your friend that R.a.D 
"went under a few months ago". True:, the magazine was part of the
Robert Maxwell empire at the time that *he* went under, but that
didn't affect it at all.
 
R.a.D's still very much around, Halloween Jack, and you are in direct 
contact with it.
 
Janne,
I don't know what the story is with Denmark. It used to be remarkably 
widely available last time I was in Copenhagen, but that was a couple 
of years ago. Perhaps the Danish news-stands don't think there's
enough demand for skate mags in your country at the moment? What's
happening these days?
 
Sorry this message is so long, but it includes several comments in
one hit.
 
Tim from R.a.D
From: smiths@cats.ucsc.edu (William Wesley Gray)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: where to shread in Santa Cruz?
Date: 9 Jan 93 05:25:41 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


Did some mention Derby park. I _love_ Derby. Skate it every weekend (when
it's not raining :(). It's basically the only place in SC. They keep
screwing up the curbs so you can't skate them. Also, you can get derby
to yourself if you check it early on weekday mornings.

-Wes Gray (smiths@cats.ucsc.edu)
 
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: steve@ecf.toronto.edu (Steve Kotsopoulos)
Subject: Re: ANyone heard of WHIP 'n DIP in dallas?? Re: Urg..
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:51:15 GMT

In article <C06HwC.Bpo@sdf.lonestar.org> smj@sdf.lonestar.org (Stephen M. Jones) writes:
>the same thing happened to us at Whip and dip... but! we got there on
>time... started shoveling it out and had a guy run to a pay phone and
>call out more skaters... with in 10minutes a bunch of skaters we heaving
>out the wet concrete.. hehe  they've not tried it again... although
>everyone has vowed never to paint the walls... (the city comes in
>and uses this thick white paint that is very slick)  the ditch is
>worth keeping... although once side is getting rougher than the
>other (in the transition) and the 'channel' is starting to crack
>from the ground shifting...  but the curbs are old and very
>heavily waxed and grindible...  Whip and DIp got its name years ago
>from the ice cream store with the same name that was across the
>street... 

YEA! I skated Whip and dip about 6-7 years ago. Actually, I have some 
pictures at home, maybe I'll scan a couple and post them. I also skated
the SkateTime ramp (Clown Ramp) with the Godoys, Philips, Dan Wilkes
and the other locals, and drove to Houston to ride the metal ramps.
-- 
Steve Kotsopoulos                   mail:   steve@ecf.toronto.edu
Systems Analyst                     bitnet: steve@ecf.UTORONTO.BITNET
Engineering Computing Facility      uucp:   uunet!utai!ecf!steve
University of Toronto               phone:  (416) 978-5898
From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: snowboarding
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:15:22 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <C0GCy5.7z6@ecf.toronto.edu> steve@ecf.toronto.edu (Steve Kotsopoulos) writes:
> In article <C0G6zz.1JL@monitor.com> michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson) writes:
> >Does anyone know if there is or will be a snowboarding newsgroup anytime in  
> >the near future?  I posted to some skiing groups and nobody has a clue--one  
> >would think there are enough snowboarders out there that there would already  
> >be a group.
> 
> My site has rec.sport.snowboarding, but it is a very low-volume group.

It was never officially created so the only postings that show up
are those that were cross-posted to a valid newsgroup.

-- 
George Robbins - now working for,     work:   to be avoided at all costs...
but no way officially representing:   uucp:   {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!grr
Commodore, Engineering Department     domain: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: steve@ecf.toronto.edu (Steve Kotsopoulos)
Subject: Re: San Diego/Sami/Rad
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:10:02 GMT

In article <memo.848498@cix.compulink.co.uk> tim_lb@cix.compulink.co.uk writes:
>>In article <JOSHUA5.93Jan4164924@csa.bu.edu> joshua5@cs.bu.edu
>writes:
>>>Going to be spending a week in San Diego at the end of January.  
>How
>>>(il)legal is it to ride a skateboard there?
>>>                                      -- Jim.
>>
>>Are you going for the USENIX conference? If so, I'll be there too.
> 
>If so, how about a side-trip? The Action Sports Retailer Show
>(skateboard industry trade show) takes place in San Diego on the
>weekend of Jan 23-4, which means there'll be an even higher than
>normal quota of skaters in town.

Yes, I'm planning to go to the trade show. Where is it?
Do you know if it is open to the public, or if you have to get someone
with 'connections' to get you in (a bunch of people from Toronto will 
be there, so I should be able to scam my way in if needed)?
-- 
Steve Kotsopoulos                   mail:   steve@ecf.toronto.edu
Systems Analyst                     bitnet: steve@ecf.UTORONTO.BITNET
Engineering Computing Facility      uucp:   uunet!utai!ecf!steve
University of Toronto               phone:  (416) 978-5898
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Subject: bone bruise
Reply-To: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Organization: Monitor Company / IE
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:53:53 GMT

In followup to my message about weird shin lumps--someone told me this is a  
"bone bruise" for anyone interested.  Still don't understand just what the  
hell is _in_ that lump under my skin though.
From: lm011@rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (Alexander Tuchacek)
Newsgroups: alt.artcom
Subject: VRship Hamburg: Participate
Date: 11 Jan 1993 11:52:17 GMT
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rs1.rrz.uni-koeln.de
Keywords: Sounds

Call for international participation in new art/science project.
KNOWBOTIC RESEARCH
Simulation Room -Mosaic of Mobile Sound Data
Hamburg, 5.2 - 20.2.93
We are a group of artists and scientists at the Academy of Media
Arts Cologne,  and will be showing a VR installation in February at
the MEDIALE93 - Festival for Media Arts and Media Future - in
Hamburg, Germany. The installation, housed in the freight ship Cap
San Diego in Hamburg - harbour, has three main areas.
Section one is a sophisticated, walk - in data - base  utilising a
collection of sound samples from around the world, which will be
used to produce a virtual 'sound room'.  The sound data will
correspond to the second section,  a physical room, where visitors
will be able to navigate through the space with the aid of a mobile
ultrasonic sensor and an artificial eye display and activate the data 
to a realtime-concert.
The action of the visitors, within  this 'virtual organism,' will be
displayedon a video screen shown in a control room area (the third
area).
We welcome your participation for the international sound - data -
base: To participate in this international project we need from you a
6 second long sound sample, a cultural statement, reflecting
your personal attitude towards the "world". Please send this via
email or ftp. (aiff, wave, next formats)
All participants and institutions will be credited in a publicly
displayed database during the exhibition.
For more information by email from: kr+cf@khm.uni-koeln.de
Thank you for your support - KNOWBOTIC RESEARCH
Newsgroups: alt.artcom
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 15:56:35 -0500 
From: Carl Loeffler <cel+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Yep!

Happy New Year Everyone!!!
from Art Com....
Newsgroups: alt.artcom