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From: jmp@visionware.co.uk (John Pullan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: Gods Passwords (where ?)
Summary: Where/when do passwords appear.
Keywords: Krysalis Gods Game
Date: 22 Jan 93 09:35:47 GMT
Organization: VisionWare Ltd., Leeds, UK
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I hope someone can help or point out what is going on with this as its
winding me up :

Where Oh Where do the passwords to Gods appear ? Maybe I should say when.
I've completed the first Level and entered the temple, Got killed, but
I didn't get a password for that level.

My machine is an A5000 R3.10 and the game is on my hard disk although it does
exhibit the same functionality when run from the floppy .

Any help/advice appriciated

Follow-ups via email please


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From: extchbu@kk293.ericsson.se (Christian Burisch)
Subject: SVERIGE
Reply-To: extchbu@kk.ericsson.se
Organization: Snorpicon
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 11:34:24 GMT


Hello there,

I see loads of articles from Norway and Finland, but nothing from Sweden?

Is there an Arc owner out there .... Hello ?

Or am I the only one?

mvh

xen


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From: crj10@phx.cam.ac.uk (Clive Jones)
Subject: Re: BJ200 and TurboDriver
Telephone-Messages: +44 223 33 4900
Address: Christ's College, Cambridge CB2 3BU, ENGLAND.
Organization: U of Cambridge, England
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 19:13:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.124501.12833@cs.nott.ac.uk> smb@cs.nott.ac.uk (Simon Burrows) writes:
>In article <gilbertd.727691872@cs.man.ac.uk> gilbertd@cs.man.ac.uk (David Alan Gilbert) writes:
>>There was once talk of CC being on the net,
>>can anyone tell me the address, since I want
>>to mail a bug report and a moan or two!
>
>CC has a uucp mail link hanging off Acorn Computers Ltd, along with a number
>of other companies such as Aleph One, Iota etc.

Er... no. Aleph-1 gets its link from mantis.co.uk (as of 1 Jan 93 -
they may be changing to demon.co.uk sometime).

According to the netmap, Acorn's mail distribution is:
        abccam(DAILY/4), alper(HOURLY), armltd(HOURLY*2), camcon(DAILY/4),
	eoe(DIALED), iconet(DEAD), ivesco(DAILY), ixi(DAILY/2),
	mcare(DAILY/2), metagen(DIALED), otibuk11(DAILY/6),
	pericom(DIALED), softgen(DAILY/2), tdc(DAILY), uknet(DEMAND)
...although this may be out-of-date. This implies that Iota and
Computer Concepts are not registered.

Therefore, I'd be tempted to try: support%cconcepts@acorn.co.uk
instead of support@cconcepts.uucp. I'm not an expert in this field,
though - by all means try the latter first...

--Clive.
From: thughes@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Tom Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: Re: kill apps from cli?
Date: 22 Jan 93 09:59:03 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England

In article <1993Jan21.125418.13682@aston.ac.uk> braindl@uhura.aston.ac.uk (David Brain) writes:
>
>
>Would it be possible to write somthing that could kill apps running on the 
>desktop from the cli...on a similar idea would it be possible to get a list
>of running apps from the cli...like the unix ps command.
>
>Do such things exist?  would it be possible to write them ?

It's certainly possible to list the running tasks - you just call
TaskManager_EnumerateTasks repeatedly, outputing the information. The
other question is trickier, as you would have to send a Message_Quit
to the task concerned, which can't be done unless you're a desktop
task. I guess you'd have to have a module which was running as a
desktop task and which queued kill requests from outside the desktop
and carried them out as soon as you went back to the desktop.

Tom.

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From: ijp@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ian Palmer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: Re: Acorn news release: Advance
Date: 25 Jan 1993 15:03:41 -0000
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
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In article <11428@baird.cs.strath.ac.uk> sproven@cs.strath.ac.uk (Simon B Proven IE91) writes:
:
:Actually, the protection is clever in that it produces a window on the
:screen warning of the infringement, telling you to contact Acorn if you
:have any problems.  The window has no back or close icons :-), and in
:the pre-release version I saw you couldn't even drag the window though
:that may have changed...  It could be a problem if the user had a window
:open and it got covered by the Advance warning.
:

This wouldn't be too much of a problem, as with very little time the
warning window will have made it's way to the back of the window
stack (bar 'back' windows).


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From: smb@cs.nott.ac.uk (Simon Burrows)
Subject: Re: Acorn news release: Advance
Organization: Nottingham University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 10:54:45 GMT

In article <1k0f8lINNe5f@oak45.doc.ic.ac.uk> ijp@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ian Palmer) writes:
>Personally I get the impression Acorn are hoping that the majority of
>A5000 owners get so pissed off waiting for the #20 bug fix, that they
>go out and get the #50 full release instead - it's the only
>explanation that makes any sence (as I've said before it can't be due
>to lack of supply of ANY of the parts).

No, I don't believe that. The reason is more likely to be because Acorn
would prefer to let people upgrade RISC OS 2 -> RISC OS 3.1 than from
RISC OS 3.0 -> RISC OS 3.1. A5000 owners already have many of the benefits
of RISC OS 3, but have already got past the "I like it" stage.

(This reminds me of a discussion on here about a year ago, when we were
debating who Acorn should supply with RISC OS 3.1 upgrades first.......)

>Be patient. We were promised this over a year ago. Wow what a service.
>(You may get the impreesion Acorn aren't in my good books at the
>moment). And don't say "Oh the RO3.1 upgrade offers little to the
>RO3.0 user" because that now doesn't wash, as I already have a piece
>of RO3.1 software I CAN'T USE because it only works with 3.1 (or later
>:-) ).

I would never say that. Acorn wants everyone to upgrade, but if there is
a shortage of ROM sets, they have got to decide who should receive the
upgrades first, RISC OS 2 users or RISC OS 3.00 users.

>And if Acorn arn't going to produce any more packs for the A5000 this
>STINKS. It is obviosly the case that there are many long suffering
>A5000 owners who havn't got their upgrade yet, so either there is one
>lucky supplier in the whole world who's got piles of the things (and
>isn't telling anyone) or (as I say above) Acorn are just hoping to
>make more money.
>
>COME ON ACORN, GET YOUR FU**ING ACT TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>I'M STARTING TO GET A LITTLE MORE THAN PI**ED OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come on Ian, you are over-reacting somewhat. There is no way it would be
in Acorn's commercial interests to stop production of the upgrade packs.
There is just some reason (...) why they cannot supply as many upgrade
packs at the moment as they would like to. I am sure that you will find
this situation will change before very long, and you will have double
reason for being happy.

>Now let's just see, Dave Kennard is number 99 in NCS's queue, and I
>(two weeks ago) was number 3. I'm still waiting, that means that
>supply is less than 2 a week (probably 0.000000001 average), thus -
>gosh perhapse in two more years (certainly more than 1)........

As I've said so many times, go to another dealer! Why have you waited so long
for NCS to supply? If any dealer took that long to supply, and others had the
item in stock for less money, I know which I'd go to. 

Simon
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From: smb@cs.nott.ac.uk (Simon Burrows)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: Re: Acorn news release: Advance
Date: 27 Jan 93 12:44:52 GMT
Organization: Nottingham University

In article <1k3ibeINN89c@bnsgd245.bnr.co.uk> rocky@nnsgs50.lon40.nt.com (Dave Kennard) writes:
>At least NCS claim that they havn't got the faintest clue when (or if)
>they will have any more, and that time would be better spent annoying Acorn
>rather than them.  (Which is why I have taken to occupying comp.sys.acorn
>bandwidth with this line of whinging!)

Yes, I noticed the editorial in Archive magazine which advised people to
phone up Acorn's switchboard to complain about NCS's shortage of RISC OS 3.1
upgrades. I bet that made them very popular with Acorn. In this instance
you ought to complain about NCS's attitude, not Acorn.

Simon
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From: smb@cs.nott.ac.uk (Simon Burrows)
Subject: Re: Acorn news release: Advance
Organization: Nottingham University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 10:53:32 GMT

In article <1jovi8INN1cr@oak42.doc.ic.ac.uk> ijp@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ian Palmer) writes:
>In article <1993Jan22.132034.21810@cs.nott.ac.uk> smb@cs.nott.ac.uk (Simon Burrows) writes:
>>
>>It sounds more like the person who wrote the news release got their
>>terminology wrong. It would be a major development if each set of
>>ROMS had a unique ID number - but then, what about users of older
>>versions of RISC OS? 
>>
>
>The leaflet for Acorn Advance states that it requires Risc-OS 3
>(version 3.1 or later). Thus this wouldn't be a problem.

I was talking generally (ie not just about Advance) - thus it would
be a problem.

>What I find odd is that several Acorn releases of late state that they
>require Risc-OS 3 (version 3.1 or later). This would suggest that
>Acorn have stoppped supporting RO2 wholesale, and also that there must
>be some big difference between RO3.00 and RO3.1.

At some stage Acorn has got to stop supporting RISC OS 2 in new software
releases if good use is to be made of the extra functionality in RISC OS 3.
RISC OS 3.00 was an interim release - almost a stopgap measure - and I reckon
that anyone with this version would be well advised to pay the extra #20 to
get the upgrade. 

Simon
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From: smb@cs.nott.ac.uk (Simon Burrows)
Subject: Re: Acorn news release: Advance
Organization: Nottingham University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 11:40:24 GMT

In article <1jm1a7INNca@oak47.doc.ic.ac.uk> ijp@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ian Palmer) writes:
>In article <21080@acorn.co.uk> bsalter@acorn.co.uk writes:
>>Acorn Announces 
>>Integrated Software Suite
>.
>>Acorn Advance uses the Acorn software protection scheme whereby a code in
>>the operating system ROMs which is unique to each individual machine is
>>checked by the software allowing it to be licensed for designated machines.
>
>Eh?
>
>Is this different to the unique machine ID in newer machines? Is it
>something new to RO3.1?

No, they must mean the unique IDs built into the newer machines. Puzzling,
because that means the software won't be protected on older machines.
Also, administering site licences must be a huge headache.

>I thought someone stated recently that Acorn themselves states that
>software manufacturers weren't to use the unique machine ID for
>protection (or something like that, if memory serves). So is this a
>new machine ident in ROM so that if you do get a replacement machine
>you can simply transfer the roms accross and be able to use the
>software.

I think Acorn has changed its policy on this matter. The unique ID is
stored in a small IC which can be removed and put in a different machine.

>
>ALSO:
>
>In another of these releases (the one about the PC card), what I
>really don't understand is : what's new?
>
>It says, basically, the the 'NEW' Acorn PC card IS the Aleph-1 PC
>card, which has been on sale for ages - so what is this press release
>all about ???

These are new cards intended for the A3020 and A4000 - ie they are mini
expansion cards. The Aleph One cards are half-width.

Simon
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From: ijp@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ian Palmer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: Re: Acorn news release: Advance
Date: 21 Jan 1993 11:27:03 -0000
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
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In article <21080@acorn.co.uk> bsalter@acorn.co.uk writes:
>Acorn Announces 
>Integrated Software Suite
.
.
.
>Acorn Advance uses the Acorn software protection scheme whereby a code in
>the operating system ROMs which is unique to each individual machine is
>checked by the software allowing it to be licensed for designated machines.

Eh?

Is this different to the unique machine ID in newer machines? Is it
something new to RO3.1?

I thought someone stated recently that Acorn themselves states that
software manufacturers weren't to use the unique machine ID for
protection (or something like that, if memory serves). So is this a
new machine ident in ROM so that if you do get a replacement machine
you can simply transfer the roms accross and be able to use the
software.

ALSO:

In another of these releases (the one about the PC card), what I
really don't understand is : what's new?

It says, basically, the the 'NEW' Acorn PC card IS the Aleph-1 PC
card, which has been on sale for ages - so what is this press release
all about ???

Ian

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From: altman@cryton.demon.co.uk (Hugo Fiennes)
Subject: Re: Acorn news release: Advance 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Serial Port
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:48:02 +0000

In article <1jm1a7INNca@oak47.doc.ic.ac.uk> ijp@doc.ic.ac.uk writes:

(stuff deleted)
>
>ALSO:
>
>In another of these releases (the one about the PC card), what I
>really don't understand is : what's new?
>
>It says, basically, the the 'NEW' Acorn PC card IS the Aleph-1 PC
>card, which has been on sale for ages - so what is this press release
>all about ???
>
(a) From what I hear, they're at least 100 quid cheaper

(b) They come in A3000-minipodule form too, allowing you to have an A3010
with dual processors for example :-)

Hugo

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From: r_voisey@kiwi.uwe.ac.uk (R Voisey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: Re: Acorn news release: Advance
Date: 27 Jan 93 11:21:39 GMT
Reply-To: r_voisey@csd.bristol-poly.ac.uk
Organization: The University of the West of England, Bristol (The Magic Roundabout)

In article <1jp6b8INNoo@bnsgd245.bnr.co.uk>, rocky@nnsgs50.lon40.nt.com (Dave Kennard) writes:

|> I ordered my A5000 RO 3 -> 3.1 upgrade from Norwich Computer Servives on
|> 2nd September 1992.  I am number 99 on their queue.  I have spoken to them
|> this afternoon (22/1/93).  They do not know if Acorn are going to PRODUCE
|> any more.

They're feeding you crap.  I can walk into any dealership in Bristol and buy
one off the shelf.  I have to reason to suppose the situation is different
anywhere else.  If NCS haven't even managed to provide 99 copies I'm appalled -
one of the local dealers here has sold twice that, retail.

Bob

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From: smb@cs.nott.ac.uk (Simon Burrows)
Subject: Re: Acorn news release: Advance
Organization: Nottingham University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 10:25:22 GMT

In article <1k0v6mINN480@bnsgd245.bnr.co.uk> rocky@nnsgs50.lon40.nt.com (Dave Kennard) writes:
>Re: my post of last week - my cheque fo L20 was written on 2nd September
>1992 - to their credit (but not their bank balance!) NCS have not yet
>cashed it.  Indeed, if they are unable to supply my with the RO 3.0 to 3.1
>upgrade within the next 5 weeks, they will have to ask me to write another
>one!
>
>As I said last week..
>
>ACORN,  WHERE ARE THE A5000 RO3.1 UPGRADES???
>
>WE WANT THEM - PREFERABLY NOW!!!!

As I suggested before, go to a different dealer. That's what a lot of other
people have successfully done. Why are you still waiting for NCS, when other
dealers have them in stock? My local dealer has had them in stock for over
four months now...

Simon
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From: davism@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mik Davis)
Subject: Re: Acorn news release: Advance
Organization: Aston University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL241235]
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 10:59:43 GMT

TMOTA (jwil1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz) wrote:
: 
: Good. Trying to maintain RO2 compatability severely restricts use of the new
: RO3 features, and I for one don't want to wait for another 3 years before
: some truly RO3.10 compatible software is available.

[bits deleted]

: currently rife. Easiest solution: Don't try. Just make it compatible with
: the latest OS release and take advantage of all the new features that you
: need.

  But what about those people who do not have Risc OS 3 and do not plan to
upgrade in the near future. I know of one school with >30 A3000s. They have
absolutely no plans to go to Risc OS 3. Mainly because of the cost.

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From: beck@homer.uni-passau.de (Carsten Beck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: RE:Modula2 or Oberon for RISCiX/RISCOS
Date: 23 Jan 1993 04:55:31 GMT
Organization: University of Passau, Germany
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|> Article: 6367 of comp.sys.acorn
|> Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
|> From: awenn@matilda.vut.edu.au (Andrew Wenn)
|> Subject: Modula2 or Oberon for RISCiX/RISCOS
|> Message_id: <C16zw0.I6v@matilda.vut.edu.au> 
|> Organization: Victoria University of Technology
|> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 07:09:36 GMT
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|>
|> Can any one help with sources for the above languages - I would prefer
|> RISCOS ones but I guess most of you are addicted to C (yuk!!!).
|>
|>
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me too, please.

thanks,

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From: crj10@phx.cam.ac.uk (Clive Jones)
Subject: Re: Help!
Telephone-Messages: +44 223 33 4900
Address: Christ's College, Cambridge CB2 3BU, ENGLAND.
Organization: U of Cambridge, England
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:24:50 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.113557.8389@infodev.cam.ac.uk> MJW19@phx.cam.ac.uk writes:
>In article <93025.092128EY04@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK> EY04@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK writes:
>>I have a BASIC program that I have written for the BBC. Apart from compiling
>>the source code is there any way to prevent the source code from being seen
>>when it is being run on the computer?
>
>I have a small piece of code that converts BASIC programs into executables in a
>rather obvious way. A drawback is that you cannot pass parameters to the BASIC
>program. Once an executable it can be squeeze-d, rendering it unreadable. I'll
>try and dig it out and make it work again, and then maybe post it to Newcastle.

Er... for the BBC, though?

The following mechanism will work on any machine, although some
cunning is required to drive it from the desktop under RiscOS:

  LOAD the basic program.
  PRINT ~PAGE,~TOP
  !(TOP-2)=0
  *SAVE <new-filename> <value-of-PAGE-above> <value-of-TOP-above>

This will save a version of the program with the end marker corrupted.
You can then LOAD and RUN the program, but not CHAIN it. Any attempt
to list it, (or any attempt to READ beyond the last DATA statement or
call a missing function/procedure or goto a missing line number) will
give Bad Program. Thus, the program can't be listed, put through
ArmBE, etc.

THe slight snag is that you need to *EXEC a script to run it, as I
said.

--Clive.
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From: alla0008@student.tc.umn.edu (Graham Allan)
Subject: Re: R140 boot problem
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:22:19 GMT

In article <1jp4vlINNbb2@bHARs12c.bnr.co.uk> ajdh@bnr.co.uk (Andrew J D Hurley) writes:
>I have just obtained an old R140 which is refusing to boot up
>(even to RiscOS).
>
>It gives the following message when I switch on or do a ctrl-reset
>(or ctrl-e-reset):
>
>Address exception at &x0180F048 (Error number &80000003)
>
>Any ideas what could be causing this?
>
>There is an arm3 fitted and an ethernet card.
>
>Thanks in advance for any help.

The address exception is, I think, somewhere in the RMA, so could be a
module causing the problem. I don't know what your problem is, but the
things I would try are:
1) perform a R-power on to reset the CMOS-RAM.
2) try removing the ethernet card and see if it works then.

This are the two most obvious things I can think of! If these don't help,
it might be useful to know exactly at what point you get the error message
- do you get the "RISC OS 2 4096K" message up, do any filing systems
announce themselves, etc?

Graham.
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From: altman@cryton.demon.co.uk (Hugo Fiennes)