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From: ndasmith@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Noah D. Smith)
Subject: Re: Obtaining RD tapes in NTSC format.
Followup-To: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:57:45 GMT

In article <starkg.721672803@argon>, starkg@argon.gas.uug.arizona.edu
(Gavin E Stark ) wrote:
> 
> 
> Before everyone starts sending me info on how to get the RD tapes from the
> UK (Tower Records or what) I'd like to get them in NTSC rather than PAL.  I
> know I could get them converted but isn't that expensive? (It also increases
> the length of time I have to wait)
> 
> So I am looking for some kind place (or person) where I can get NTSC tapes
> of RD.  If you know of such a place, or are such a person (perhaps you are a
> place as well, one never knows these days) please let me know via e-mail.
> 
> --
> 
> 
> Gavin Stark
> starkg@gas.uug.arizona.edu

  I go to school in Chicago now, but maybe about three years I saw a Red
Dwarf marathon on MPT (Maryland Public Television, USA); and it was the
first time I'd ever seen or heard of the series.  Naturally I was hooked,
but my VCR was broken so I couldn't tape it.  I believe I've seen every
episode from the first to the time the non-hologram, non-feline guy found
he was pregnant in the present time (It's been so long I've forgotten the
names.)  Could someone PLEASE send me info on getting RD tapes in the U.S.
or Canada on whichever format is usable in North America.  My address is
ndasmith@casbah.acns.nwu.edu   Thanks a lot!
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From: gbeer@leven.appcomp.utas.edu.au (Gabrielle Beer)
Subject: Re: Claire Grogan
Keywords: Lise not Lisa
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 05:16:07 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.112422.26603@netcom.com>, sasse@netcom.com (Ellen Sasse) writes:
>I always thought it strange that Claire Grogan
> left in the middle of an episode. They clearly have a stand-in in
>parts of one of the episodes she's in - I think it was Stasis Leak but I
>haven't had a chance to check recently. One of the scenes I had in mind
>is one where she comes in to a room arm-in-arm with a-future-Lister; it
>is clearly not Grogan's build or hair and they had to put the hat at
>a strange angle to hide her face so it wasn't as obvious she wasn't
>Grogan. Can anyone confirm or deny? Did anyone else notice this?

According to the Red Dwarf smegazine Claire Grogan left the studio before 
they'd finished filming the episode.  Either she or the producers forgot
that she was in that scene (she didn't have any lines in it). One of
the crew (I forget who - some kind of staging assistant) was roped
in to act as stand-in at very short notice, hence the hat to cover
her face.

		Gabe

-- 
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	   University of Tasmania at Launceston, Australia
If you're interested, I'll be in my quarters, covered in maple syrup.
		-- Millie in Red Dwarf `Dimension Jump'
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Subject: Rimmer & Polymorph (was Re: Kryten)
From: richard@nacjack.gen.nz (richard vowles)
Date: 21 Nov 92 8:20:22 GMT
Reply-To: warlock@halloween.EBay.Sun.COM
Distribution: world
Organization: Malleus Maleficarum - Nil Mortifi Since Lucre


> >he has to obey--more likely, he's just programmed for general obedience.
> Unless a polymorph sucks out all his guilt :)

How did that polymorph manage to attack Rimmer when Rimmer can't touch
anything as HE IS A HOLOGRAM?

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Subject: I have a Red Dwarf Tracker Module.
From: batman@amigans.gen.nz (Kerry Emerson)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 15:36:33 GMT+1
Organization: Wanganui Amigans, Wanganui, New Zealand

Well, I do.  Everyone may have already heard it, but I have anyway.  
Where should I post it?

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From: u0g78@teach.cs.keele.ac.uk (MN Steed)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: HOLOGRAM QUERY
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:06:30 GMT
Organization: Keele University, England
Originator: u0g78@teach.cs.keele.ac.uk

From article <9232218.12103@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, by rns@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Robert Noel STURROCK):
> spm@dar.csiro.au (McEWAN Shane) writes:
> 
> I find Rimmer's hologramatic status a little bit inconsistent to say
> the least.  In one episode, "HoloShip", Rimmer tries to get himself
> recruited by a ship full of holograms.  But when he returns to Red
> Dwarf, he finds another member of the dead crew has been hologramised(?)
> to take his place.  They are both present on the deck at the same time.
> How can that be?

In "HoloShip" isn't Rimmer being generated by the Holoship rather than the
RD?

Martin.
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From: spm@dar.csiro.au (McEWAN Shane)
Subject: Re: HOLOGRAM QUERY
Organization: CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 04:54:49 GMT

dme@dstos3.dsto.gov.au (Mark Evans) writes:
: I have a question about Rimmer the hologram. In the epsiode "Holoship" in
: series five Rimmer decides to join the crew of the Holoship so the Red
: Dwarf crew decide to bring back a member of the dead crew as a hologram
: to replace Rimmer. 
: 
: QUESTIONS
: ---------
: 
: 1) If all of the dead Red Dwarf crew are still on the ship why don't
:    they bring back more of the crew as holograms ? In Red Dwarf science
:    can only one hologram exist at a time ? Is their only ONE light bead 
:    therfore only ONE hologram ?

Due to the computing power needed to generate a hologram, Red Dwarf can only
support one hologram.

: 2) I realise that the Red Dwarf series has all of the regular characters
:    it needs but it seems a bit mean that all of the dead crew have to
:    remain "dead".

That's life....er....death......whatever. Plus, I think Rimmer had one of the
skutters hide all of the other hologram discs so that Lister wouldn't turn him
off and replace him with someone else.

: 3) Why was Rimmer the hologram when it could have been any one of the
:    dead crew ?

Holly brought back Rimmer as a hologram when Lister was revived in order to
keep Lister sane. 

: 4) I know that holograms can't touch anything so bringing back an Engine
:    Mechanic might seem to be useless but he would certainly be able to 
:    tell people what to do.

Yeah, but it's not funny! *grin*

: 5) What happens to Rimmer when he has to recharge his light bead ?

Dunno. *smirk*

: 6) A hologram is a dead person in hologram format. Is the only possible step
:    after death to become a hologram i.e hologram status is the equivalent
:    to the so called afterlife ? I take it that once your dead you can come
:    back as a hologram at any time in the future ?

A hologram is a computer simulation of a person. The computer predicts how
a person will act and "plays out" its predictions with the hologram. So, the
Rimmer we see in the series is not the _REAL_ Rimmer, but just a computer
simulation of a probable Rimmer.

--

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From: kv07@IASTATE.EDU (Warren Vonroeschlaub)
Subject: Re: HOLOGRAM QUERY
Reply-To: kv07@IASTATE.EDU (Warren Vonroeschlaub)
Organization: Ministry of Silly Walks
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:52:41 GMT

In article <9232218.12103@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, rns@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Robert Noel
STURROCK) writes:
> spm@dar.csiro.au (McEWAN Shane) writes:
> >dme@dstos3.dsto.gov.au (Mark Evans) writes:
> >: 1) If all of the dead Red Dwarf crew are still on the ship why don't
> >:    they bring back more of the crew as holograms ? In Red Dwarf science
> >:    can only one hologram exist at a time ? Is their only ONE light bead 
> >:    therfore only ONE hologram ?
> 
> >Due to the computing power needed to generate a hologram, Red Dwarf can only
> >support one hologram.
> 
> I find Rimmer's hologramatic status a little bit inconsistent to say
> the least.  In one episode, "HoloShip", Rimmer tries to get himself
> recruited by a ship full of holograms.  But when he returns to Red
> Dwarf, he finds another member of the dead crew has been hologramised(?)
> to take his place.  They are both present on the deck at the same time.
> How can that be?

  Same trick as they used in Me^2.

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From: sasse@netcom.com (Ellen Sasse)
Subject: Season 6 and the double-double future (we hope)
Summary: Do it!! (Grant & Naylor, hear me?!! ;-)
Organization: Netcom
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 06:17:04 GMT

G.M.Suddes@newcastle.ac.uk (Gareth Suddes) writes: 

> BTW Anyone else praying they might tie up the Stasis Leak/Kochanski story in
> S6? I live in hope...

Yes! Yes! Yes! Oh, excuse me...

> Of course, Lister has to grow that beard first!!!!!

Heh.

I am sure Grant and Naylor *think* we only *think* we want this and that
*we* would find it all downhill from there, but it could be done well and
continue on with the series as usual. Just like having Rimmer and Lister
meet some women at last in "Parallel Universe"

Similarly, "Back to Reality" was also delicious in the plot switchbacks-
given the way it ended up (NO SPOILERS from me! Unless requested, in which
case they will be adequately marked, whinge, whinge, but too late now for
all those poor souls who *haven't* seen it yet unlike me) although
I confess I wouldn't have liked it as much if they had left it. I somehow
can't help picturing G&N's faces as they wrote this, imagining all of *our*
faces as we saw it for the first time, a la William Shatner's "Get out of your
parents' basements!" Ditto the added irony of the title "Back to Reality" -
I'm sure it was a poke at the fans as well as a perfect title for the episode.
Not flaming, I am a total Red Dwarf fan but it seems that with the pressure
of writing fun sf like Hitch-Hiker's Guide and Red Dwarf, and knowing what
the fans will accept, has to come some occasional frustration on the writers'
part as well;-)

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From: adh@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay)
Subject: Re: RD Series II Episode 2 Script - REPOST
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 11:25:56 GMT
Keywords: script, smeg, dinglebat

In article <1992Nov21.195315.1142@cs.nott.ac.uk> cep@cs.nott.ac.uk (Charlie Pearce) writes:
"In article <1992Nov20.161820.10329@lssec.bt.co.uk> msmith@rheya.lssec.bt.co.uk (Martin Smith) writes:
">
">Rimmer concentrate again and fluffy dies appear in the car. (yes I know the 
">plural of dice!) 
"
"Really? How about the plural of die? :-)

it's already plural -- i die, you die, we die, they die.  ;^>
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From: jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu
Subject: Re: Are you smegheads for real ??????
Organization: Marriott Library, University of Utah
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 05:22:59 GMT

In article <9232911.4651@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> rns@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Robert Noel STURROCK) writes:

>mcsdc1al@dct.ac.uk writes:

>>Ace, for once you're right.  No offence to our transatlantic buddies, but the
>>Americans are notorious for producing very very very bad comedy programs when
>>it suits them.  
>>    Take "Dear John" for instance.  The UK version was excellent particularly
>>the fine scripts not to mention superb general characterisation.  The USA remix
>>was an appaling blight upon humanity.  Especially Kirk who went from being a
>>genuinely sad character, putting up a front of macho strength while actually
>>being a lonely mummy's boy to actually being the hard-man stud he pretended to
>>be.  Once again the Americanshad lost the thread.
>>    And RD is such a tenuous thing anyway, easily lost given the Yank's
>>penchant for going right overboard.  

>Just hope it doesn't turn out like Star Trek TNG.  Watching this show
>is like watching "Days of our Lives" that just happens to be set in
>space at some time in the future.  The dialogue in that show is
>appalling.  I want to reach for the paper bag everytime I watch it
>(which isn't often)!  Shame they wasted all that money on FX, and had nothing
>left to buy a script with....

>For every good one, there are at least 5 bad ones.

Ah, I was beginning to think that it was only me who thought that ST:TNG was 
dreck. I guess I only had to go as far as the southern hemisphere to find 
someone else. . .

Fish!


Jeff Jonsson
Marriott Library System Support, University of Utah.
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From: Steve.Lake@brunel.ac.uk (Steve M Lake)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: is rimmer famous
Date: 23 Nov 92 10:50:34 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK

>Rimmer is the most awful character that Chris Barrie has ever played
I dunno, I think Gordan Brittas is pretty awful (From The Brittas Empire(
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From: rictofen@pension.uucp (Rictofen)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: RED DWARF INQUIRERY
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 20:39:43 MST
Organization: The Pension Grillparzer +1 801 375 7679

> Would somebody tell me if anybody knows anything about Red Dwarf in Utah?

It is on KUED (channel 7) at 10:30 monday nights and (depending on 
football) repeated at 10:35 sunday mornings.

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From: k5rj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Subject: FTP for Mac???!?!?
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:31:00 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Cornell University

I was wondering if anyone knows of a site for Macintosh Ren and Stimpy sounds
and/or pictures.  I've seen notices for IBM; is there any way to convert those
sounds so they'll work with a Mac?  
      I am especially interested in an FTP site for pictures of R&S.  I am
still running on an SE, however, so they either need to be .gif, so I can 
convert them to black and white, or in black and white to begin with.
I will take any information I can get though, 'cause I have richer friends
with color Macs.  Send me e-mail at    ath@cesr10.tn.cornell.edu,  and I'll
post a list of what I got.  Thanx in advance,
                                                 Aron   @ Cornell
From: tatum@cs.unc.edu (Thomas Tatum)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Subject: Bob Camp's speech/showing (abbreviated notes)
Date: 17 Nov 92 03:38:19 GMT

Tonight on the campus of UNC, at 8:00, Bob Camp spoke and showed 4 episodes of R&S.
He showed the two George Liquor (American) episodes: 'Dog Show' and
'Man's Best Friend'.  He also showed 'Out West' and 'Rubber Nipple Salesman'.
   I took notes through the whole show and will get back to you in
more detail, on everything that happened.  But for now I will tell
you these juicy facts (not rumors) he told us:
 1)  He said that Billy West will do the voice of Ren from now on.
He said, "He does a good job, and there wont be much of a difference."
 2)  Out West was cut for TV.  He showed the cut version (the one
everyone saw on NICK) and paused it at the moments where it was cut
and told what the original joke was intended to be.  They are:
--Right after they steal the sherrif's wife instead of the horse they go
back to steal a real horse:
a) when Ren and Stimpy are in the barn looking down on Mr. Horse
   about to abduct him, in the edited version Stimpy says
   something like "He looks like your Uncle Eddie..", Ren
   says how do you know and stimpy says "because hes big and stinky!".
   Well in the original version they look down on Mr. horse and Stimpy
   says, "How do we know it isn't another one of his [the sherriff's] wives?",
   and Ren says, "It doesn't smell bad enough to be one of his wives."
   (Why this was edited, I don't know).
--The second cut appeared right before R&S were to be hanged:
b) In the Nick version Ren confesses to Stimpy, "last night when
   you were asleep, I polished my boots with your tounge." and Stimpy says
   something like "I wasn't asleep". In the original version, Bob Camp says that
   Ren really said "Last night when you were asleep, I soothed my
   saddle sores with your tougue" and then Stimpy replies, "I
   wasn't asleep"
3) The george Liquor shows were outstanding.  I have notes on
   the episode in detail and will post them later this week so be
   patient and DONT SEND REQUESTS.  Someone else who went might
   post them before I do.
4) He told of a new episode on the drawing board where Stimpy
   takes Ren's brain and funny things happen
These are just a few things that happened at Bob Camp's showing.  I
   will give more detail later on this week when I have more time.  Right
   now I must go do more homework.
Thomas Tatum
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From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: J.R. Dobbs in R&S???????
Organization: none
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:43:06 GMT

In article <1e5ebgINN6ce@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> atario@cats.ucsc.edu (Stephen Wayne Miller) writes:
>
>donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
>
>>Phony religion indeed! After statements like that, you don't deserve an
>>answer, but here is the list of episodes with "Bob" <or at least a very
>>familiar looking pipe. Connie is there too!>
>
>Did You Know . . . the built-in character set in the Atari ST line of
>computers include four characters, that, when placed in the correct
>arrangement, produce a picture of Bob?
>-- 
>  __     | atario@cats.ucsc.edu | "Oh no!  Toonces, look out!  AIIIEEEE!"  --SNL
> (_      | Delphi:  ATARIO      | "This is only an exhibition.  This is not a
> __)teve | "Happy happy!        |  competition.  So please . . . no wagering."
>         |  Joy joy!"  --R & S  |              --Late Night with David Letterman

Yes, and every Amiga ever made has his image in the character set!
"Bob" is everywhere, even in Ren and Stimpy, Tiny Toons, Alf cartoons, Super
force, Pee Wee's Playhouse, and more every day!
Not to mention that classic Car commercial about "Bob"'s Freeway, and
the "No Parking except for "Bob"" zone!

					--Judex--
From: epiccola@clam.rutgers.edu ('Mean' Gene Piccola)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Subject: READ ME! POSTED REN AND STIMPY .VOC FILE!
Summary: POSTING OF REN AND STIMPY .VOC FILE
Date: 19 Nov 92 01:23:14 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In two seconds Im going to post a voc, 'youfool.voc' in
alt.binaries.sounds.misc.  Anyone of you out there who is interested
in my sounds please get this file, try it, and drop me  a quick line
telling me if it worked okay or not.  If things go well the rest will
be posted shortly.  Thanks to all who have been replying to my posts.

Gene
epiccola@clam.rutgers.edu
From: king@acpub.duke.edu (King Rhoton)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Subject: Re: STIMPY's FIRST FART
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:31:24 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

For a (reasonably) complete listing of shows planned for this season,
and even the 3rd season, check a transcript of the Film Threat article
(I'm sure there are a couple in earlier messages).
King
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:59:37 EST
From: Sime <TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Subject: Re: Tape offer
 <7106@news.duke.edu> <7107@news.duke.edu>

In article <7107@news.duke.edu>, king@acpub.duke.edu (King Rhoton) says:
>
>OK, it looks like I've found a source for "Man's Best Friend," "The Pet
>Show," and an uncut "Big House Blues."  When I receive the tape, I'll
>post a followup article (I don't want to offer something I don't have
>yet) with instructions about how to get your copy.  I will probably ask
>PS PLEASE hold your requests until you see the followup posting.  Lets
>not have a stampede (yet).

***STAMPEDE STAMPEDE!!!****

Just kidding...
I have seen these epidsodes not an hour ago and they are somewhat amusing.
Not as funny as I was expecting but still I'm glad I have them. If all
those who are willing to be so generous are offering their copies, I'm sure
everyone will have their OWN copy soon, but I'm not telling where I got mine,
if he wants to say he can come out and say it and bring the mass of email on
himself (thanx again, you know who you are).

Nifty workprints also, very strange to watch without sound effects...

I'm up to my ears already in people who want to tape mine, so I probably
wouldn't be able to get anyone a copy until after thanksgiving, and maybe not
even then since I have finals and then I'm outta here (Read:  No Net Access)
for good.  But mail away and we'll see what we can do!

-Sime

"Let's toast the hero                       L   e   t   s
 With blood in his eyes,
 The scars on his mind                         G   o
 Took so many lives...
 Die Hard The Hunter"                       P   E   N   S
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