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From: rbrbrn@picard.cs.wisc.edu (Robert Holmes)
Subject: Re: Who *Was* That Truck Driver?  (was Re: Home
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 16:00:37 GMT

In article <105592@bu.edu> abw@natchez.bu.edu (Al Wesolowsky) writes:
>In article <1992Dec23.200223.22279@zeus.ieee.org> sbookey@ep.ieee.org writes:
>>
>>The old man driving the truck with Poe's home was the same Geezer that Patty and
>>Selma have dealt with at the DMV.  When Patty was in love,  she let him have a
>>license even though he couldn't see a thing.
>
>Okay, despite all the recent reactionary cant to the effect that we
>real fans of OFF are seeing references to popular culture where our
>self-proclaimed intellectual and cultural superiors see nothing, I am
>going to offer a reference for the "Mole Man."
>
>"Mad" magazine had a story by Wil Elder in the early 1950s with a central
>character much resembling our trucker. His name was, I think, "Molester
>Mole," and he was a criminal who specialized in digging underground
>tunnels into bank vaults and out of prisons. He was a one-shot character,
>with the face and general appearance of the OFF character. 
>
>I suspect that only the creators of OFF can confirm this reference, but
>the net is open to discussion on the subject.

Oh, absolutely!  It has to be.
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Make Money Quick
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From: rolf@geoserv (Rolf Wilson)
Subject: Re: USA - Week of December 27-January 2 (TWO episodes)
Reply-To: rolf@geoserv.isgs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:35:11 GMT

Don.Delgrande@launchpad.unc.edu (Don Delgrande) writes:

>According to the newest TV GUIDE, Fox has "Separate Vocations" scheduled
>for Sunday, December 27 at 8:30, and "A Streetcar Named Marge" in the
>"normal" Thursday (New Year's Eve) 8:00 slot.

>(BTW, when I said in my previous post that "USA qualified for every event
>in 1984 as the host country", it meant that USA could have participants in
>each event without going through the "pre-Olympics qualifying procedures".
> This pretty much applies only to team sports (for example, USA doesn't
>normally get into the Men's Field Hockey tournament).  It did NOT mean
>that American athletes went straight to the finals in every event.  As far
>as I know, the same rule applies in 1996.)
>--
>   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
>     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
>        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
>           internet:  laUNChpad.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80

  Sigh, it's me, the track nut again. Just to clear things up - in track
and field (other sports have varying procedures) every country can have
up to three competitors in an event IF they have met a certain time or
distance. Even if no one from that country has met the time/distance,
they can still send ONE. On one end, this can mean that the US might
have the best 5 hurdlers in the world (or the USSR with hammer throwers)
but only 3 could go. On the other extreme, sometimes there is someone
competing as the one free entry who could be beaten in any average 
American high school meet. (I have seen shot putters throwing 36 feet,
when I did 47 in college)
  Usually, these people are eliminated very quickly in preliminaries.
However, take an event like the 10,000 meters, which HAS NO preliminaries,
but is still run inside the stadium. A runner sent by the dictator
Duvalier was lapped EIGHT times, and held up the schedule of events
as he struggled to the finish line. His inspiration was that he feared
being executed if he did not finish...
-- 
Rolf Wilson     Illinois State Geological Survey    rolf@geoserv.isgs.uiuc.edu
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From: Chris@sound.demon.co.uk (Chris J Lamb)
ReplyTo: Chris@sound.demon.co.uk
Subject: Where is everybody
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:41:08 +0000



What's Happened to all the mail this group used to carry what ever happened
to Raymond Chen (I think that was his name) and the episode capsules he used
post. The only messages I've seen have been "HOWDEE DODEE".

HELP!!!!!!!

I need simpson's info.

DYN Liz Taylor is doing Maggie's Voice.



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From: annie@garnet.berkeley.edu  (Anne Jessop)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: maggie movie reference
Date: 4 Jan 1993 02:39:02 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu
Originator: annie@garnet.berkeley.edu



The scene where Maggie leads the other babies to escape from the Ayn Rand
daycare is from The Great Escape.  (At least, the ball bouncing and
tapping the other babies is.  The scene where Homer picks her up and sees
all the babies sucking their pacifiers, staring at him, I think is a lift
from The Birds.)

Annie
From: c8923075@mystra.newcastle.edu.au (Chris Baird)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: ``..just keep your fool mouth shut.'' (Was: Homer & Ren & Stimpy)
Date: 21 Dec 1992 22:04:11 -0500
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
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^ It's likely I won't get to enjoy this episode for ~9 months, but
^ here's my two cents,,

Okay okay okay,, It's been pointed out to me in email I've once again
made a complete idiot out of myself for trying to comment on a show I
haven't seen.  In the meantime while I try to find someone else to
blame this all on..

Recently in ``Lisa's First Words''...

 Lisa:   ... Remember, 'tis better to remain silent and be thought a
         fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
 Homer:  [thinks] What does that mean?  Better say something or they'll
         think you're stupid. [speaks] Takes one to know one! [thinks] Swish!

But back during ``Jacques to be Wild''...

 Bart:   Look Dad, I don't know what's going on, but once you gave me some
         advice that might help.
 Homer:  I gave you advice?  Get outta here.
 Bart:   Yeah, you did.  You told me when something's bothering you, and
         you're too damn stupid to know what to do, just keep your fool
         mouth shut.  At least that way you won't make things worse.

What gives?

-- 
Chris Baird,,  <c8923075@mystra.newcastle.edu.au>
From: sbookey@ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Who *Was* That Truck Driver?  (was Re: Home
Date: 23 Dec 92 20:02:23 GMT
Reply-To: sbookey@ep.ieee.org
Organization: IEEE, New York, NY


The old man driving the truck with Poe's home was the same Geezer that Patty and

Selma have dealt with at the DMV.  When Patty was in love,  she let him have a

license even though he couldn't see a thing.
From: c8923075@mystra.newcastle.edu.au (Chris Baird)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: `official' spellings of some names
Date: 3 Jan 93 13:37:14 GMT
Reply-To: c8923075@mystra.newcastle.edu.au
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.widener.edu


I was under the impression that the only irrefutable source of
information would be the half-hour show itself, but after checking
``Principal Charming'' and ``Homer at the Bat'', even they can't
decide on the name of Homer's brown co-worker.  (7F15: Homer scans
"Karl"; 8F13: "Carl" was signed on the softball sign-up.)

Btw,, the spelling of the name for Homer's one-time secretary was
never made clear in 7F02, but "Karl" was accepted by the newsgroup
when the episode aired to avoid confusion.

-- Chris Baird,,  <c8923075@mystra.newcastle.edu.au>
PROS: Posts the FAQ.
CONS: Sprained ankle.
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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: Baby talk translator
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 11:00:09 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.184942.1748@cc.umontreal.ca> dufortm@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Dufort Michel) writes:
>
>        It is know that when then automobile was invented, we tought
>        that it was an invention worth to be used by everybody. But
>        now it's a major poluant and has become an other big society
>        problem. Altough the intension in building the automobile was
>        a good one right?
>
>        How about the baby stranslator? Would it's devellopement do
>        any dammage to the education of the baby and young children?
>        I mean the intention is good but would people get the habit
>        to use the baby transator rather than teaching the children
>        to "talk realy"?
>
>        This is not for homework. I'm just suggesting this as a new 
>        topic for the newsgroup.
>
>                                                Mike

What a deep, thoughtful, and probing question, Mike.

I think the answer goes a little something like this:

It's just a cartoon.


-- 
"Dammit Jim, I'm a free man, not a number!"
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From: c8923075@mystra.newcastle.edu.au (Chris Baird)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: The Stellar Acting Career of Troy McClure; the *complete* list :)
Date: 22 Dec 1992 09:03:28 -0500
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
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[Last updated: 23-Dec-92]

==== The Stellar Acting Career of Troy McClure ====

Movies:
      [7F13]	"Cry Yuma"
      [9F07]	"Dial M For Murderousness"
      [8F14]	"Calling All Quakers" (with Dolores Montenegro)
      [8F14]	"Gladys The Groovy Mule"
      [8F14]	"Today We Kill, Tomorrow We Die"
      [8F03]	"The Wackiest Covered Wagon in the West"
      [7F13]	"Here Comes The Coast Guard"
      [8F01]	"Preacher With A Shovel"
      [9F07]	"The Erotic Adventures of Hercules"
      [8F03]	"The Revenge of Abe Lincoln"

TV Series:
      [8F07]	"Troy and Company's Summertime Smile Factory"
      [8F12]	"Handel With Kare"
      [8F07]	"Buck Henderson, Union Buster"

TV Specials:
      [8F18]	Miss American Girl Pageant (host)
      [9F07]	"Carnival of the Stars" (host)

Educational Films:
      [8F16]	"The World Without Zinc" (as `Jimmy')
      [8F22]	"Fuzzy Bunny's Guide To You-Know-What"
      [8F22]	"Here Comes The Metric System"
      [8F22]	"Lead Paint: Delicious But Deadly"

Do-It-Yourself videos:
      [9F05]	"Dig Your Own Grave and Save"
      [9F05]	"Mothballing Your Battleship"
      [9F05]	"The Half-Assed Guide to Foundation Repair"

Infomercials, Misc:
 [7F13,8F07]	"I Can't Believe They Invented it!"
      [8F11]	"We're Sending our Love Down the Well" (singing)
      [8F03]	Introductory video to the "Ah! Fudge" chocolate factory
      [8F14]	Introductory video to "Rancho Relaxo"
      [SI#2]	"Space Mutants VII: Cry of the Space Mutant"

--
Jeff Soesbe (& Chris Baird)
yeff@apple.com
From: rbrbrn@picard.cs.wisc.edu (Robert Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Continuity Spotted! (was Re: Who *Was* That Truck Driver?)
Date: 24 Dec 92 15:53:55 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.

In article <1992Dec23.094716.1527@leland.Stanford.EDU> ami@leland.Stanford.EDU (Amitava Biswas) writes:
>In article <1h81iaINNogq@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bw462@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bucky Whaley) writes:
>
>>>And why did Homer get so pissed off at the guy towing Edgar Allan Poe's house? 
>>
>>Say, wasn't the driver a mole or something???
>>
> 
>Well, yeah, he DID look like a mole, but we remember him from "Principal
>Charming". He was taking the eye-test at Patty (or Selma's) booth at the DMV.
>When he failed miserably and Selma (or Patty) voided his license, he exclaimed,
>"But driving is my livelihood!"
>
>Now we know what he does. Did he get his license back at some point?
>
>Anyway, it was a nice touch of continuity.
>
>ami
>ami@leland.stanford.edu

There's always one exception to the rule!
From: tina@diamond.UUCP (Tina Cacolice)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Simpsons vs. Disney
Date: 24 Dec 1992 13:42:12 -0500
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
Distribution: world
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>
>
> You known, after unfortunately paying
>$4.25 to go see Disney's Aladdin, I was extremely dissapointed
>in it's extremely trite and un-original plot, sorry music, and
>it's absense of any real humor. It's feeble shots at humor were
>Home Alone style, slapstick that just didn't even make me grin.
> Let the disney fans say what they like,

So, I'll speak:

	Of COURSE the plot wasn't original!  Were you EVER a child?
	The whole POINT was to do an old story in a way that would
	interest 1990's children!

	The music was by NO means "sorry"  Are you sure you went to the
	same movie I did?  What movie have you been to lately where
	the score was better?  Where the singing is better?  Where what
	was going on in the movie could have been better supplemented
	by the score?

	And if you don't think Robin Williams is funny, then you are
	more in the minority than you think.

	The humor was not as slapstick as you seem to have remembered.  
	What about the different voices and faces the genie did?
	There were lots of beloved references, as well.


You also have to remember that the movie was for the young, as well as the 
young-at-heart.  Sit down and watch TV with a six-year old (like my nephew)
and see what they laugh at.  He ADORED Aladdin.  And so did many other
children.  The parents liked it as a good, exciting movie that they
could take their kids to.

The young-at-heart (like myself) enjoyed it for what it was.  A full-length
cartoon.  I would also have to say that it was QUITE a bit better than
3/4 (at least) of the other movies I've seen lately.

>but the average pisode of the Simpsons is 1,000,000,000,000 times more 
>clever, humorous, original, witty, and better for young kids and adults 
>alike, and far more enjoyable than any animated film Disney has released 
>in 15 years!

I personally love the simpsons, but COME ON.  The children of the world
wouldn't even understand half of an average simpsons episode.  And it
certainly covers some pretty intense subject matter that some younger
children might be distressed at.

If the simpsons had more time than 1/2 hour to develop some of the more
interesting plots, then maybe it could be rated against a Disney movie,
but for right now, you are completely comparing apples and pomegranates.

>    Sure, the Simpsons animation is not state-of-the-art, but who cares,
>The Simpsons are so much more of a finished product to enjoy and love, 
>that Disney will probably ever make again. Matt G. has done it.
>                             phase
>

Finished product?  With those nice little still frames?  What about the
"score?"   Come on, son, get out of the angry-young-man,
against-anything-traditional stage.  You'll have to eventually....
From: tina@diamond.UUCP (Tina Cacolice)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: [9f08] alpha release (corrections please)
Date: 24 Dec 1992 13:43:19 -0500
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.widener.edu

>
>rhb@ucs.usl.edu (Bird Rendell H.) writes:
>>g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin) writes:
>>>==================================================================== 17-Dec-92
>>>[9F08] Lisa's First Words
>>>==============================================================================
>>>
>>>Bart:   Mom, dad, she can talk! Say it again, Lees...
>>>Lisa:   Bart. Bart, Bart, Bart, Bart, Bart.
>>>Bart:   I'm her first word.
>>>Marge:  Well, I'm not surprised. Lisa's crazy about you. She thinks you
>>>        hound the moon.(????)
>>I thought the phrase was 'hung the moon'....
>
>I'll buy that, but have you ever heard this phrase before? Can you explain
>to me what it means? I've just never heard this before.
>

Basically, it means that he was the one who put the moon up there.
He "hung" it...like a picture.
From: rbrbrn@picard.cs.wisc.edu (Robert Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Homer & Ren & Stimpy
Date: 24 Dec 92 15:52:13 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.

In article <1992Dec22.223214.1619@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) writes:
>glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier) writes:
>>And in the "East Side of Spingfield" bit, Homer choking boy Bart bears a
>>striking resemblence to Ren!
>
>Now, Homer's been choking Bart like this for a LONG time.

And that's what makes TS such a good family show.
From: abw@natchez.bu.edu (Al Wesolowsky)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Homer & God
Date: 24 Dec 92 15:27:35 GMT
Organization: Boston University

In article <1992Dec24.140848.8594@cbfsb.cb.att.com> colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten) writes:
+
+BTW - I once went looking for Poe's birthplace (it was a really
+      dull vacation day and we were desperate) without finding it.
+      However, it was in Baltimore, Maryland.  Not sure that
+      tells us where Springfield is (let's not start THAT
+      again - but it's a clue :-)

Looking for Poe's birthplace in Baltimore? No wonder we can't decide
where Springfield is... Poe was born in a lodging house once located at
62 Carver Street, near Park Square, in Boston.

Possibly you were looking for his gravesite? 

"D'oh" <slaps forehead>

-- 
Al B. Wesolowsky    Boston      o Diane: "I have dire news."
abw@crsa.bu.edu     University  o   Sam: "Good or bad?"
From: c8923075@mystra.newcastle.edu.au (Chris Baird)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: [8F15] The Confiscated Property Room
Date: 31 Dec 92 10:25:50 GMT
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.widener.edu

[Forwarded -cjb]

I noticed an interesting mistake while watching the rerun of Bart the Hall
Monitor (sorry, I don't know the official episode titles).  In the
Confiscated Property Room, Principal Skinner speaks of complete collections
of Mad, Cracked and even an occasional issue of Crazy.  The implication --
the satiric observation -- is that Crazy is a poor substitute for Mad (or
Cracked).

BUT -- Crazy was cancelled in 1983!  Of course, Skinner had lots of stuff in
that room more than nine years old.  But this issue of Crazy had "Star
Blecch VI" on the cover and was clearly supposed to be current.

Not a huge mistake.  In my mind, the real error was singling out poor little
Crazy for criticism on national television. It never reached more than
100,000 people even when it was published; the Simpsons reaches tens of
millions.  

Speaking of Mad, last night I rewound my tape of Homer's Heart Attack and
also got out my reprint of Mad #2.  I'm afraid I don't see any similarity at
all between the near-sighted truck driver and Melvin Mole (not Molestor
Mole!) from Mad #2.  I would have to call this claim of a reference a false
alarm.  Obviously there's been at least one (explicit) reference to Mad on
the Simpsons, but the truck driver doesn't seem to have been a second one.

-- 
Beppe Sabatini <beppe@ssl.berkeley.edu>
From: glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: lisence plate: E-X-C-O-N
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:32:31 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

Does this character have a name?
You know, overweight, snake tatoo, jailbird.
He's been in at least 3 episodes, and he's never been named, to my
knowledge.

"Oh no! Beta." 
-- 
"A horse! A horse! Somebody give me a horse, man, because|glazier@ 
I come to bury this dirtball, not to praise him. Whaddya |harvard.isr.edu
think I am? Whether it's nobler for the mind to make people suffer with all
these totally outrageous arrows arrows for a fortune, or what!" -- D.R.
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From: sager@tiger1.prime.com (Leo Sager)
Subject: I know this is prob a FAQ but...
Organization: Prime Computer, Inc.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:20:10 GMT


I knew that Yeardly Smith does the voice for Lisa, but recently I reallized that
also Hank Azaira (From Herman's Head which Yeardly Smith is on too) does a voice for
the Simpsons.. What character does Hank Azaira do?

Email answers would be appreciatted (or the FAQ which prob. has the answer) as I do
not subscribe to this group.

Thanks!
-- 

Leo Sager          | My boss tells me my comments do reflect the views of
Prime Computer     | Prime Computer. Personally, I don't believe it.
                   | Email: sager@primerd.prime.com
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From: flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal)
Subject: Re: Homer & Ren & Stimpy
Date: 23 Dec 92 03:32:14 GMT

glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier) writes:
>And in the "East Side of Spingfield" bit, Homer choking boy Bart bears a
>striking resemblence to Ren!

Now, Homer's been choking Bart like this for a LONG time.
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: jmv@grip.cis.upenn.edu (Jean-Marc Vezien)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: [9f08] alpha release (corrections please)
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:24:26 GMT
Organization: GRASP Lab



Also, I'll nit-pick on Lisa when she starts talking:


- David Hasselhauf *chuckle*
			^-------- I found it irresistible.


JM "Hassle - Aough !" V.
From: abw@natchez.bu.edu (Al Wesolowsky)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Molester Mole
Date: 25 Dec 92 23:41:44 GMT
Organization: Boston University

In article <1992Dec24.193956.19878@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> caldwell@astro.as.arizona.edu (Nelson Caldwell) writes:

Actually, it was abw@natchez.bu.edu who made the following claim:

+>"Mad" magazine had a story by Wil Elder in the early 1950s with a central
+>character much resembling our trucker. His name was, I think, "Molester
+>Mole," and he was a criminal who specialized in digging underground
+>tunnels into bank vaults and out of prisons. He was a one-shot character,
+>with the face and general appearance of the OFF character. 
+ 
+If the reference is in fact to "Molester Mole," it is derived from
+a character with that name in Pogo by Walt Kelly, not Mad by Wil 
+Elder, though that's a good guess.  Perhaps Elder's mole had a different
+name? Or maybe Elder and Kelly both used the same name? I dunno, but
+there is definitely a Molester Mole in the Pogo Pantheon.

D'oh! <slaps forehead> You are correct in the "Molester Mole"/Walt
Kelly connection, something that I should have remembered. But thanks
for setting me straight.

I checked and the "Mad" story is by Will Elder, entitled simply
"Mole!", and appers in Volume 1, Number 2 (December 1952--January
1953). The character's name is given as "Melvin Mole," and possesses
the large nose, specs, and short body (as seen in the Driving License
bit) of OFF's truckin' man. The Elder yarn, BTW, is odd enough to
appeal to OFF's producers.

-- 
Al B. Wesolowsky    Boston      o Diane: "I have dire news."
abw@crsa.bu.edu     University  o   Sam: "Good or bad?" 
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