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From: dconnors@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (David Connors)
Subject: Re: How many US navy men does it take to change a light bulb ?
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 00:40:21 GMT

tjdavis@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au (Tim Davis) writes:

>hill@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Craig Hill) writes:

>>not unique in describing them.  As for the original thread though, both the
>>Aboriginals and white Australians are having their culture destroyed (or already
>>destroyed).

>As for your last comment, who is doing the 'destroying' and what is a 'white
>Australian culture'?  Remember that all white Australians are no more than 
>foreigners from a variety of cultural backgrounds who have settled in 
>Australia thus making it a multi-cultural AND evolving society.  You do
>understand the notion of an 'evolving society'?


Craig, 

I could very easily take offence at your comments - simply because I am only
a second generation Australia (mostly Irish background). Does that make me
any less of a citizen of this country? Am I inadventantly destroying some
part of the Australian culture by living here?

Actually, come to think of it, I'm still waiting for one of you "keep Australia
a closed society" advocates to provide an adequate definition of the "Australian
Culture" (which I'll refer to in quotes from now on because I'm not all that
convinced that Australia has a common culture at all).

Over time I think that you'll find that Australia's society will become an
average of all of the cultures which go to make it. You definately shouldn't
think badly of this as eventually the entire world should become an average
of it's cultures if we are going to be a "global society". 

I'd say the advances in communications and transport technology are most at 
fault for the breaking down of cultural walls and if we are exposed to other 
societies through the media, or if we can travel to another country in a 
matter of a few hours, then you can't expect cultures to remain uninfluenced -
only an extremely naive person would think so. I might add that only an 
extremely selfish person would want their culture to remain the way 
"they" want it, without and concern for the wants of others or the 
greater good (Perhaps they are also deluded if they want a culture to remain in
a state which it is not currently in!).

Change is inevitable ... remember that.



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From: tjdavis@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au (Tim Davis)
Subject: Re: How many US navy men does it take to change a light bulb ?
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 22:22:33 GMT

hill@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Craig Hill) writes:

>In article <1992Oct14.221934.27343@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au> tjdavis@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au (Tim Davis) writes:
>>Oxford Dictionary'.  Were you aware that while the cited reference considers
>>the nomenclature for cultures and races to be proper nouns, this is not the
>>case for the Aborigines?  Look it up.  Even the extinct race of Hittites
>>is found in the reference as 'Hittites' while Aborigine is found under
>>'aborigine'.  Does this tell you anything about our (immigrant) view 
>>towards the indigenous population of the land which we (immigrants) inhabit?
>>
>>Think about it!
>>
>It does tell us something actually, aborigine is NOT a proper noun.  Aborigine
>means the first inhabitants or something like that so it cannot be a proper
>noun.  If anything, the error is in calling a race of people by a name which is
>not unique in describing them.  As for the original thread though, both the
>Aboriginals and white Australians are having their culture destroyed (or already
>destroyed).

Since you obviously didn't bother to look it up, let me cite something from
the reference used:

	aboriginal a.&n. 1.a. (Of races and natural objects)
	indigenous, existing in a land at the dawn of history,
	or before arrival of colonists; (usu. A~) of the
	Australian Aboriginals; ... 2.n. aboriginal inhabitant,
	esp. (usu. A~) of Australia ...

You will note that within the definition, the reference recognizes the
nomenclature as a proper noun but as I stated, you will not find it
in the reference as a proper noun in the same way you will find that
of 'Hittites'.  If you give it a little thought (it doesn't take a lot)
you might catch on.

As for your last comment, who is doing the 'destroying' and what is a 'white
Australian culture'?  Remember that all white Australians are no more than 
foreigners from a variety of cultural backgrounds who have settled in 
Australia thus making it a multi-cultural AND evolving society.  You do
understand the notion of an 'evolving society'?

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From: tjdavis@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au (Tim Davis)
Subject: Re: How many US navy men does it take to change a light bulb ?
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 22:38:30 GMT

lc@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (leon) writes:

>In article <1992Oct5.070936.7965@cltr.uq.OZ.AU> mattd@cltr.uq.oz.au (Matthew Deshon) writes:
>>johnd@physiol.su.OZ.AU (John Dodson) writes:
>>
>>>PS: Can anybody think of a race on earth they would least trust with a Big
>>>Red button that could blow the earth to the shit house than the Americans ?

This question shows the absolute ignorance of some people.  Americans are
NOT a race.  I would suggest that based on the obvious lack of intelligence,
the individual asking the question is not worthy of being trusted with a
'Big Red' button.

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From: gnb@duke.bby.com.au (Gregory N. Bond)
Subject: Re: A joke, not related to computers at all
Organization: Burdett, Buckeridge & Young, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:53:41 GMT


>> Well that's a very old joke but it made me laugh...

So old, it was on Memphis Belle on the Teev the other night.
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From: steveo@mel.dbce.csiro.au (Stephen Oakes)
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Subject: Re: How many US navy men does it take to change a light bulb ?
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:01:50 GMT
Organization: CSIRO, Div. Building Constr. and Eng'ing, Melb., Australia

In article <1992Oct14.221934.27343@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au> tjdavis@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au (Tim Davis) writes:

>As an aside, I found something very interesting in 'The Australian Concise
>Oxford Dictionary'.  Were you aware that while the cited reference considers
>the nomenclature for cultures and races to be proper nouns, this is not the
>case for the Aborigines?  Look it up.  Even the extinct race of Hittites
>is found in the reference as 'Hittites' while Aborigine is found under
>'aborigine'.  Does this tell you anything about our (immigrant) view 
>towards the indigenous population of the land which we (immigrants) inhabit?
>
>Think about it!

Did you actually read the definition of "aborigine"?  If you want proper
nouns, try "Australian Aborigine".  Perhaps there are other, more specific
terms, such as "Koori"?...

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From: u9147063@cs.uow.edu.au (Richard Barry Ling)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Silly Mathematics Proofs
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 06:26:46 GMT

  
andy@research.canon.oz.au (Andy Newman) writes:

> Does anyone have a copy of the proof that a horse has an infinite
> number of legs? We were trying to recall it but failed. Other silly
> proofs would also be gladly accepted. Ta.

Someone else has already coughed up the horse one, so I'll now prove, for
your pleasure, that 1 = 2.

		X = 1				(Let X = 1)

		(1^2) = 1			(1 squared = 1)

		(X^2) = X			(substitution)

		(X^2) - 1  =  X - 1		(subtract from both sides)

		(X + 1)(X - 1)  =  X - 1	(difference of 2 squares)

		(X + 1)(X - 1)     X - 1
		--------------  =  -----	(dividing into both sides)
		     X - 1         X - 1

		(X + 1)  =  1			(cancel out common factors)

		(1 + 1)  =  1			(back substitution)

		2  =  1

> Andy Newman (andy@research.canon.oz.au)

ciao

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From: andy@research.canon.oz.au (Andy Newman)
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Subject: Re: Keating the comedian
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:35:37 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia

allanc@cluster.cs.su.oz (Restless Wanderer) writes:
>From the man who said "..this is the recession we had to have"
>
>On the Ch 9 news at 6pm last night.(During parliamentary speeches)
>
>"..mate this Govt saved you.." Laughter errupted.
>

Well we never found out what an alternative was/is like ... there is
the possibility (however slight) that it may have been worse!
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From: 2120158@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU ()
Subject: Re: How many US navy men does it take to change a light bulb ?
Organization: school of Mathematics UNSW
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 10:29:00 GMT

johnd@physiol.su.OZ.AU (John Dodson) writes:
>PS: Can anybody think of a race on earth they would least trust with a Big
>Red button that could blow the earth to the shit house than the Americans ?

YES, I have the perfect race - Viruses, 'cause they can't reach the top!!!

Sometimes I just crack myself up (no, that was not a job advertisement!!).

Later,
Matthew
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From: johnd@physiol.su.OZ.AU (John Dodson)
Subject: Re: How many US navy men does it take to change a light bulb ?
Organization: Department of Physiology, University of Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:47:28 GMT

In <1992Oct7.223830.25965@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au> tjdavis@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au (Tim Davis) writes:

>>>johnd@physiol.su.OZ.AU (John Dodson) writes:
>>>
>>>>PS: Can anybody think of a race on earth they would least trust with a Big
>>>>Red button that could blow the earth to the shit house than the Americans ?

>This question shows the absolute ignorance of some people.  Americans are
>NOT a race.  I would suggest that based on the obvious lack of intelligence,
>the individual asking the question is not worthy of being trusted with a
>'Big Red' button.

A bad choice of a word perhaps, ask a few Americans, not only do many of
them consider themselves a "race" but also a superior one !

My comment above was made just after a reference to a US warship blowing
away a Turkish destroyers bridge & killing a number of people with at least
2 live missiles that were not supposed to be used during an excercise.

If the US Military do this kind of thing so regularly (list of other unprovoked
- Red Button pushes deleted) perhaps they need to get out of an arms "race" in
which there are now few other competitors, certainly they need to have tighter
controls on the more dangerous "toys" these kiddies play with. Perhaps they
should make the Red Buttons a bit smaller for them.

johnd@physiol.su.oz.au
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From: hercules@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Ashley Jenkins)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Silly Mathematics Proofs
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 00:06:52 GMT



I'm not sure, but check out a book called "A Random walk in science".
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From: dconnors@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (David Connors)
Subject: Re: How many US navy men does it take to change a light bulb ?
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 01:48:19 GMT

s305072@parasol.cs.uq.oz.au (Mark Anderson) writes:

>  ignorant can . Unlike here in Australia were virtually everyone wouldn't 
>  trust a politician as far as they could throw them . Now the thing that hurts
>  me as an Australian is seeing our country bombarded by American culture , we
>  can't turn on the telivision without catching an american show . That jail is
>  the spelling taught in school not gaol .  My ultimate fear is that we become

The way the spelling we use from day to day is evolving is something which I
have held dear to my heart since a roaring argument I had with a teacher in
grade ten over whether alright is spelt alright or allright (This is 
*REALLY* getting off the topic here).

Just briefly I'd like to say that I don't think the "evolution" of language
is something which you can blindly attribute to the American influence in this
country. That would make you one of the ignorant people which you seem to
despise so much. 

Should connection be spelt "connection" or "conexion"? Who cares ?!?! Conexion
is derived from Latin so what possible baring could the change to "connection"
have on our culture? 

To a large extent, Australia doesn't have a "culture" per se. We're a 
multi-cultural mish mash of hundreds of other races, so you only need to travel
a few kilometers to enter a different "cultural region". I notice you 
attend University of Queensland; may I suggest that you hop in a car and drive
through St Lucia, then to Darra, across to Inala, and end up un Durrack? After doing that, you may see what I am getting at. 

If you're going to get upset about forgein influence, you'd better get onto 
the people in immigration.


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From: gareth@lucifer.latrobe.edu.au (Chief Smeghead)
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Subject: Re: A joke, not related to computers at all
Date: 15 Oct 92 04:45:23 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University

In article <1992Oct14.235341.22020@bby.com.au> gnb@duke.bby.com.au (Gregory N. Bond) writes:
>
>>> Well that's a very old joke but it made me laugh...
>
>So old, it was on Memphis Belle on the Teev the other night.

So what's your point?

Gareth.

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From: Your Name Here <NetID@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: How many US navy men does it take to change a light bulb ?
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In article <johnd.718501648@cortex.physiol.su.oz.au> John Dodson,
johnd@physiol.su.OZ.AU writes:
>If the US Military do this kind of thing so regularly (list of other
unprovoked
>- Red Button pushes deleted) perhaps they need to get out of an arms
"race" in
>which there are now few other competitors, certainly they need to have
tighter
>controls on the more dangerous "toys" these kiddies play with. Perhaps
they
>should make the Red Buttons a bit smaller for them.

A lot of us would be happier with smaller red buttons for the US Navy. 
When they need to shut down the whole service for a safety lecture, as
they have done before, you wonder about their training.  Paying big bucks
to have these nincompoops running around blowing people up at random
doesn't make us Americans feel pleased.  The present administration's
policy seems to be that we should look at all the jobs it creates to
replace the ammunition!
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From: andy@research.canon.oz.au (Andy Newman)
Subject: Wanted: Silly Mathematics Proofs
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 07:02:48 GMT


Does anyone have a copy of the proof that a horse has an infinite
number of legs? We were trying to recall it but failed. Other silly
proofs would also be gladly accepted. Ta.
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From: tjdavis@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au (Tim Davis)
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Subject: Re: How many US navy men does it take to change a light bulb ?
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:19:34 GMT
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia.

dconnors@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (David Connors) writes:

>If you're going to get upset about forgein influence, you'd better get onto 
>the people in immigration.

David's point is very well taken but I would like to extend the argument
just a bit further.  I would content that the only individuals who have
a right to complain about 'foreign influence' are the Aborigines and there
is a lot that they can complain about.

As an aside, I found something very interesting in 'The Australian Concise
Oxford Dictionary'.  Were you aware that while the cited reference considers
the nomenclature for cultures and races to be proper nouns, this is not the
case for the Aborigines?  Look it up.  Even the extinct race of Hittites
is found in the reference as 'Hittites' while Aborigine is found under
'aborigine'.  Does this tell you anything about our (immigrant) view 
towards the indigenous population of the land which we (immigrants) inhabit?

Think about it!

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From: rthoff@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Rudolph van't Hoff)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Silly Mathematics Proofs
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 03:14:51 GMT

In article <Bw5I8p.ADx@research.canon.oz.au>, andy@research.canon.oz.au (Andy Newman) writes:
>
>
>Does anyone have a copy of the proof that a horse has an infinite
>number of legs? We were trying to recall it but failed. Other silly
>proofs would also be gladly accepted. Ta.
>-- 
>Andy Newman (andy@research.canon.oz.au)
>"Giving money and power to governments is like giving whiskey and
> car keys to teenage boys" - P.J.O'Rourke

Yeh, Me too, please!

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From: hill@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Craig Hill)
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Subject: Re: How many US navy men does it take to change a light bulb ?
Date: 15 Oct 92 03:37:28 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

In article <1992Oct14.221934.27343@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au> tjdavis@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au (Tim Davis) writes:
>Oxford Dictionary'.  Were you aware that while the cited reference considers
>the nomenclature for cultures and races to be proper nouns, this is not the
>case for the Aborigines?  Look it up.  Even the extinct race of Hittites
>is found in the reference as 'Hittites' while Aborigine is found under
>'aborigine'.  Does this tell you anything about our (immigrant) view 
>towards the indigenous population of the land which we (immigrants) inhabit?
>
>Think about it!
>
It does tell us something actually, aborigine is NOT a proper noun.  Aborigine
means the first inhabitants or something like that so it cannot be a proper
noun.  If anything, the error is in calling a race of people by a name which is
not unique in describing them.  As for the original thread though, both the
Aboriginals and white Australians are having their culture destroyed (or already
destroyed).
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