HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sdw@meaddata.com (Stephen Williams)
Subject: Re: Summary of: What tape drives work with Linux
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:14:01 GMT

der@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Dave Ritchie) writes:
: In <BvAo5K.17zH@afsserv.boulder.ibm.com> carl@boxelder.Berkeley.EDU (Carl vonLoewenfeldt) writes:
: 
: >It is my understanding that Colorado Memory Systems and Irwin backup
: >tape drives
: >attach, not via SCSI, but via the IDE connection already in use for the floppy
: >disk drives. They interpose themselves as a two-sided connection between tape
: >drive and cable, effectively daisy-chaining.
: 
:     Ouch.... floppy drives are not IDE interface -- they are the 34 pin
: Shugart connection that all 5 1/4" and 3 1/2" drives use. As I recall,
: the IDE interface is 40 pins.... 
: 
:     Having hooked up a QIC-40 drive a few weeks ago, you just hook the
: new cable into the controller and tape drive, and the old cable that
: formerly pluged into the controller plugs into a special socket on the
: new cable provided with the tape drive. Somehow, the floppies are 
: turned off and the tape drive is driven by the floppy controller.
There is a select line for each floppy (4 on the cable, but most
controllers and no raw DOS (as far as I know) supports 2 of them) that
activates the electronics on the floppy.

What the newer versions of the Floppy-tape (what the interface seems
to be called most often) seem to do is turn off both select lines and
enable the drive ready (I'm thinking of the line that turns on the
spindle motor).  This effectively adds an extra device to a Unary
select system.

I think the first floppy tapes would only work with one other floppy
drive.

I've had trouble getting the floppy tape driver (for irwin I think) in
my ISC 3.2R3 Unix to work with a 3rd device type of tape from Corel or
someone.  The tape company said they had a driver, but wanted $100.  I
only paid $120 for the drive....  So I just use it in DOS now....

: 
: -- Dave Ritchie
: der@hpuerca.atl.hp.com
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From: ruediger@ramz.ing.tu-bs.de (Ruediger Helsch)
Subject: Re: DOS emulation under PD unix..
Organization: Mechanikzentrum, Technische Universitaet Braunschweig, Germany
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:07:13 GMT

S_TITZ@iravcl.ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz) wrote:
> ... robn@liberator.et.tudelft.nl writes:
> > How about xdvi ?  Works ok for me.
> Ever tried dviscr? It's BEAUTIFUL... It does anti-aliasing with the
> fonts when shrinking so that you can have 2/3 of an A4 page on the
> screen and still well read 10pt fonts... no X thing I know does this.
> (And, btw, I don't have the necessary hardware for X and can well get
> along without it, if it were not for TeX...)

So you do not know xdvi and conclaim about it? Do you think
dviscr invented anti-aliasing?

Ruediger
From: csthomas@gizmonic.UUCP (shane thomas)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: BYTE asks, is UNIX dead?
Date: 4 Oct 92 17:23:59 GMT
Reply-To: csthomas@gizmonic.UUCP (shane thomas)
Distribution: na
Organization: FiFi's Taco Stand

ketil@spurv.ii.uib.no (Ketil M. Malde) writes:
~ 
~ Money rules, and it is the scourge of all free software.
~ Unfortunately. I mean, how much coverage have you seen in serious
~ magazines about Gnu, FSF, and several of your favorite free software?
~ Sure, they've been mentioned occasionally, but never realy taken
~ seriously.  Ever seen gcc compared to other C's in the market?  I
~ haven't.  An all because it is *free* (and thus most value for money,
~ beating everything else, thus leading the other C manufacturers down
~ the drain, magazine lose ad money..*sigh*)  I'll stop now. :-)
~ 
Amen, Bro! Like I try to tell my boss, just because Microsoft has a
bigger ad budget don't mean they make a better compiler. Computer
software in one case where, the best things in life are free.  A
problem that reamins, however, is that without access to FTP or a
*serious* BBS you gotta rely on your buds to get at this stuff.  But
if Joe Computerdoode ever catches on to this stuff, it could get
gloomy - a lot of folks (me for one) make their livin's writing s/w
which other people try to sell.

~ BUT: Perhaps we could start letter campaigns to get more coverage for
~ free software?  Mail a letter to Byte or whatever, ask for reviews etc
~ of Gnu stuff, and other free software.  Perhaps it would be possible
~ to get hardware manufacturers on our side?  Now that Dell issues their
~ own Unix, how about getting Gateway or someone to give out a
~ 'commercial' (that is stable and polished) version of Linux, or something?
~
Not bad, but Free Software is really a popular revolt, and I think it
really must spread personally. And they told told two friends, and so
on...

shane

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From: hpa@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin N9ITP)
Subject: Current Status of the Linus fund
Reply-To: hpa@nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
Organization: You must be kidding!
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 03:25:01 GMT

Hello everyone.

This is the current status of the Linus collection for the USA.  The Linus
collection came about then Linus in one of his postings (explaining why
Linux is freeware) mentioned he still ispaying installments on his PC.  My
role in the whole play is to cluster contributions to reduce
exchange/transfer fees from the U.S. to Finland.

Note that I will not ask Linus for any accounting; as one contributor wrote
this is the "Linus Torvalds Discretionary Malt and Semiconductor Fund",
meaning that for all we care Linus might as well buy beer (a.k.a. hacker
fuel) for the money -- and use the money he would buy beer for to pay off
his computer instead.

This is *not* a registration fee; you will really get *nothing* in return
for contributing.  Linux is as free as it has always been, and you will
*not* get better support or anything by contributing.

Because of a campus mail snafu and the current state of the dollar vs.
Finnish currenncy, I have waited a bit longer with sending anything than I
expected.  If you still want to contribute, however, PLEASE SEND ME E-MAIL
SO I KNOW TO WAIT.  (Address at the end of this message.)

To date I have received the following contributions.  If you have not
received a personal confirmation your mail bounced somewhere along the way,
or you didn't include your e-mail address.

	J. Moore		$100
	P. Anglin		 $50
	J. Lynch		 $50
	R. Almquist		 $10
	J. Montgomery		 $25
	D. Black		 $50
	M. Ng			$100
	H. Noguchi		 $20
	J. White		 $50
	----------------------------
	Total so far		$455


If you haven't already done so and wish to contribute, send a check made
out to me (Peter Anvin) to:

	Linus Collection
	c/o Peter Anvin
	EECS department
	Northwestern University
	2145 Sheridan Road rm 2657
	Evanston, IL 60208-3118

[NOTE: I can only take U.S. currency; if you live outside the U.S. your
best bet is sending it directly to Linus unless you can transfer money into
U.S. dollars more cheaply.]

Please send me an e-mail as well, as the mail here is rather slow and since
I will be cashing the checks rather soon.

The check must be made out to me so I can cash them and transfer the money.

Write your e-mail address on the check, so I can send you a confirmation
note, and if you don't want your name published, include some "identifier"
that I can post that you will recognize.

I will post the complete accounting when I have sent the money so everyone
can verify I haven't pocketed any.

Thanks to all contributors and everyone that has had their hand in in the
making of this wonderful OS!

	/hpa

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From: najem@milton.cs.uiuc.edu (Ziad Najem)
Subject: Re: Problem with man(1)
Keywords: man problem
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 01:15:00 GMT

donadio@wilbur.psu.edu (Beaker) writes:

>I seem to be having a problem with man.  Certain man pages will not
>display.  I tried a few them on a SPARCII, and they work fine, so
>I suspect that I messed something up, or man has a bug in it.  Here
>are the last few lines from a man -d cal :

>found ultimate source file /usr/man/man1/cal.1
>to_name in convert_name () is: /usr/man/cat1/cal.1.Z
>will try to write /usr/man/cat1/cal.1.Z if needed
>status from is_newer() = 217056
>Couldn't open /usr/man/cat1/cal.1.Z for writing.
>using default preprocessor sequence

Make sure that /usr/man/cat1 exists and is writable by the owener of
the man pages. for each man section you have you need a cat section.
Or, you can disable saving cat pages when configuring man for
compilation. 


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>-----------------------| peace of mind, is waiting there--And the time will
>mxd120@psuvm.psu.edu   | come when you see we're all one, and life flows on
>donadio@wilbur.psu.edu | within you and without you.  --George Harrison

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From: books@fsunuc.physics.fsu.edu (Roger Books)
Subject: Re: Videorecorder interface ? (Re: Gnu hardware)
Organization: FSU nuclear physics
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 15:07:27 GMT

In article <BvALFs.Cwn@dei.unipd.it> beppe@sabrina.dei.unipd.it (Giuseppe Zanetti) writes:
>From: beppe@sabrina.dei.unipd.it (Giuseppe Zanetti)
>Subject: Videorecorder interface ? (Re: Gnu hardware)
>Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:26:15 GMT
>In article <rcskb.717656170@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU> rcskb@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Kendall Bennett) writes:
>>dmiller@beta.tricity.wsu.edu (David L. Miller) writes:
>
>I read a article on a interface to make backups with a videorecorder ...
>
>This seems a good idea ... volunteers ? :-)
>
>Giuseppe
>
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If it works as terribly as the VHS backups I've seen (The one with a regular
VHS player was very, very unreliable, the one with a special player was just 
unreliable,) I would say don't waste your time.

Roger

books@fsunuc.physics.fsu.edu

(PGP block used to be here, hard drive crash temporarily removed it.)
From: beppe@sabrina.dei.unipd.it (Giuseppe Zanetti)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Videorecorder interface ? (Re: Gnu hardware)
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:59:42 GMT
Organization: D.E.I. Universita' di Padova, Italia

I wrote:
^
^^
^^^

>I read a article on a interface to make backups with a videorecorder ...
>
>This seems a good idea ... volunteers ? :-)

this was a commercial product connected to a workstation (or minicomputer, i
do not remember ...) ... I have not scheme , only the idea :-))
                         ======              =============

GZ


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From: dvs@ze8.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (Wolfgang R. Mueller)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: video card survey -- generic Tseng Labs card description
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:57:52 GMT
Organization: Computing Centre, Heinrich-Heine-University, Duesseldorf, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: mueller.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de
Keywords: linux, X11, video

In article <1992Sep30.125713.11193@bnr.ca> minyard@bnr.ca (Corey Minyard) writes:
>From: minyard@bnr.ca (Corey Minyard)
>Subject: Re: video card survey -- generic Tseng Labs card description
>Keywords: linux, X11, video
>Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:57:13 GMT
>I found what I thought to be a great deal.  I have an STB Powergraph
>Combo.  It has an ET4000 with 800x600 32k color and 1024x768 256 color,
>interlaced and non-interlaced.  I use the 1024x768 interlaced mode, and
>its not bad (except when certain uncommon patterns are displayed).  
>It also has:
>
>    Floppy controller
>    IDE hard disk controller
>    Two serial ports
>    Parallel port
>    Bus mouse port
>
>And it cost ~$129.  If you need to free up some slots in your system,
>this might be the way to go.
>
>Corey
>minyard@bnr.ca
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>
>Corey Minyard
Is there any space left on this card to include a 3c503 compatible ethernet
interface as well ?
Only curious,
Wolfgang R. Mueller <dvs@ze8.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de>,
Computing Centre, Heinrich-Heine-University, Duesseldorf, Germany.
From: tep@engr.uark.edu (Tim Peoples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: System V curses(3) for linux???
Summary: Is one available?
Keywords: SYSV,curses,linux
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:35:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: engr.1992Oct6.133532.25578
Reply-To: tep@engr.uark.edu
Organization: University of Arkansas
Organiztion: University of Arkansas, Dept. of Computer Systems Engineering


I vaguely remember seeing something about this recently but I can't
quite seem to find it.  Is there an implimentation of SysV curses(3)
available for Linux??  If so, then where might it be found?

I am attempting to port menu(1) version 3.63 to Linux and it relies
heavily upon the SysV version of curses(3).

N.B.  menu(1) is a script language front end to curses(3).  It is not
      xmenu(1).

Any and all help in this regard is really appriciated.

Thanx,
Tim

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From: mirons@ccs.northeastern.edu (Michael A. Irons)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux 0.97 PL 6 detecting bogus bus mice
Summary: Can't find PS/2. Pacakrd Bells ARE PS/2
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:47:29 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University, CCS Dept.


	I also have a Packard Bell computer with a PS/2 mouse that can't be 
used. I called them up and spent about a week playing tag with them. Finally
today I got a call back (whilst in the shower). They couldn't give me any tech
info, but assured me that the PB-PS/2 mouse what compleatly compliant with the
PS/2 specs. It DOES work w/IRQ12 and should be at the place the code says.

			Hopefully this will get fixed soon.

					Mike Irons
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From: zhang@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: recompile kernel.  help!!
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:24:09 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

I have MCC-0.97p2 running on my 486-33MHz PC.  I want to patch it to
p6(so I can use the xfree86).  I got patch3 to patch6 from tsx-11.  
And applyed patch by using patch command.  
     (1). What should I do next to get p6-kernel?  
     (2). Do I need do something else after I recomplie the kernel?  
I think I read all the FAQs, and I still don't know what to do.  
Somebody help me please!!!  

BTW, I already installed gcc222d7, libc4.1 libm4.0  according to 
ChangeLog from tsx-11 packages/GCC/.

Thank you!

zhang@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: u31b3hs@cip-s02.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Michael Haardt)
Subject: Re: lpd / lp for linux ?
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date: 29 Sep 92 09:42:53 GMT

zie@lte.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Ziegler) writes:

>Is there a port of a lpd / lp which allows to send binary files to the printer?

Yes, but still beta and I am busy with exams.  It will also handle
different paper classes with support for single sheet paper.  Just wait
a little.

Michael
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: sdw@meaddata.com (Stephen Williams)
Subject: Re: Thoughts on target markets for Linux
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:37:54 GMT

radel@bach.udel.edu (Todd Radel) writes:
: Many people have commented lately about how to get "Joe and Jane User"
: to switch to Linux.  There is one significant target group that could
: be easily persuaded to switch over, I think:  BBS operators.
: 
: Allow me to explain:  sysops who wish to use their machines while the
: BBS is running in the background currently have to choose between
: DESQview/386, Windows 3.1, or OS/2, none of which are very satisfactory
: for various reasons.  I got the idea a while back that I could move my
: entire system over to Linux if only I could get the BBS up and running.
: No more DOS!
: 
...
: What I'm saying is this:  if we had a complete, ready-to-run setup
: appropriate for BBS operators, I think we could attract them in droves.
: Most of them thought OS/2 2.0 was going to cure all their problems,
: only to discover that it caused quite a few of its own!  (I know.)
: 
: What does everyone think?  Am I off base or does this make sense?

I'm working on just that.  I'm getting everything working under ISC
3.2R3, but Linux is on my list.

I'm putting together a turn-key system with multi-port, slip/ppp,
email (and all programs), NetNews (INN, with all other programs),
billing, etc.

Note that one of the key features of this system is satellite downlink
of Netnews basically for free (with purchase of receiver/anten.).

The system supports slip/ppp on demand to Internet (Cerfnet is setup
now) for outgoing email/news/etc. as well as interactive links (irc,
gopher, wais, ftp, telnet, etc.).


I have my own domain, lig.net, to support users of this type of system
(not necessarily, but hopefully mine).  LIG stands for Local Internet
Gateway, a name I coined to describe a system that is intended to be
called locally by it's users (NO LD phone).


This type of system is ideal for small to medium town bbs's, internal
company news systems, etc.  Since LD rates are so prohibitive, LIG's
in different towns do not compete.

These will provide Commercial Email, Netnews, etc. to local users,
with permanent email addresses.  (john.brown@dayton.lig.net,
sdw@dayton.lig.net).

I'm almost ready with my first version (on ISC) and am ready to play
with Linux....

Let me know if you're interested.  The first satellite channel (KU
band, K2) covers the continental US very well, using an 18" dish.

sdw
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: scott@pascal.geom.umn.edu (Scott S. Bertilson)
Subject: Re: Handy debugging feature request (say "YES" to trace!)
Organization: Geometry Center, University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:19:25 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.122433.5882@samba.oit.unc.edu> jem@SunSite.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid) writes:
>
>
>In article <lcvgs1INN54b@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> lm@sun.com (Larry McVoy) writes:
>>
>>SunOS has a nifty feature.  It's called trace and you say "trace a.out"
>>and it shows you all the system calls and their arguments as the
>>process executes.  The process need not be compiled with any debugging,

  "nifty" is an understatement.

>I thought the need for trace was the use of binary only distributions
>in the commercial world...  Except for the cool hack value (and i admit

  It is a very useful feature even if you have source - it provides
a very easy way to get an overview of what a program is doing without
having to do any grubbing around with debuggers or special compiling.


  In addition, it should be quite an easy feature to add.
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From: donbon@gw.neuronet.pitt.edu (Don Bonaddio)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: cannot execute binary file and ..
Date: 2 Oct 92 00:16:35 GMT
Distribution: comp.os.linux
Organization: ccn

I recently installed .97 linux on a 50M partition of my 200M HD
With the two images (boot and root) from tsx-11.
Install went fine.
NOW I want to add some stuff like emacs, kermit, tex, ...
So, I downloaded the binaries to a unix host at work and then ftp'd
them to a pc on our net, then copied them to a floppy.
- When I mount the disk from my pc at home 'mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt'
I can see the files . 
_ I copy them to the linux partition 'cp /mnt/kertar.z ker.tar.Z'
When I run uncompress it dumps core.
This problem is only with binaries.
I had a tar.Z of ascii's and it worked.(emacs.tar.Z, REAMDE,diffs,...)

I also tried the mcc-interim.
When I tried running the root_install from the util disk(2) it said.
'cannot execute binary file'

help,
db
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From: cdill@bluemoon.rn.com (Claude Dill)
Subject: Reading keyboard
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 92 18:04:19 EDT

In past releases of the kernel I have been able to modify the source so 
that if the root device is /dev/fd0 It asks the user what to use for root. 
This requires getting a keyboard character and using it in a switch 
statement. The whole purpose of this is to be able to do an install from 
flex and then reboot and choose the correct hard disk partition -- then a 
boot flex can be created without ever touching MSDOS or another system. My 
problem:  With the 0.98 release of the kernel I am having trouble figuring 
how to get a character from the keyboard. If someone with a better 
understanding (then I) of the tty_io/keyboard code would lend a hand I 
would appreciate it. Thanks.

 This is from
     cdill@bluemoon.rn.com
who doesn't have his (or her) own obnoxious signature yet
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: johnsonm@stolaf.edu (Michael K Johnson)
Subject: New stuff at tsx-11...
Reply-To: johnsonm@stolaf.edu (Michael K Johnson)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 21:03:48 GMT

one more thing -- if anyone wants to play with common lisp, try the
directory tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/packages/lisp.  when you cd to
that directory, you will get more info.

michaelkjohnson
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux