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From: Bob.Batson@mtask.omahug.org (Bob Batson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 Monthly Has Arrived!!
Date: 11 Dec 92 15:20:14 CST
Reply-To: bob.batson@mtask.omahug.org
Organization: Multitasking Systems, Kansas City
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.misc

Today, 11 December 1992, the mailman brought me the December issue (Vol 1,
No 6) of _OS/2 Monthly_. IT'S FINALLY SHIPPING!! Let's hope this is the
start of something good.


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Bob Batson                   | "Deck us all with all with Boston Charlie, 
bob.batson@mtask.omahug.org  |  Walla, Walla, Wash., and Kalamazoo!"      

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: orville%weyrich@uunet.uu.net (Orville R. Weyrich)
Subject: Looking for a good OS/2 speaker for conference
Reply-To: uunet.uu.net!weyrich!orville
Organization: Weyrich Computer Consulting
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 15:39:02 GMT

I am on the program committee for the 2nd Annual Arizona Business and 
Computer Exhibition which is presented jointly with the 34th Annual
Association for Systems Management Southwest Systems Conference
[March 15-16, Phoenix, AZ].

I would really like to find a speaker to present a technical talk on OS/2,
but I am not quite sure where to begin (does someone have the e-mail
address of John Soering, and is he the person to ask for advice like this?)

Anyway, the program this year is shaping up to have a lot of very good 
people in the areas of Real-Time, Object-Oriented Systems Modeling
and possibly Object-Oriented Databases and I would like to find someone 
that could give a good technical presentation for OS/2 that would be 
related to this. Ideas I have would include a presentation on:

	1) Real-Time Process Control OS/2 facilities
	2) SOM (Systems Object Model)
	3) Using OS/2 in a distributed interoperable environment.

(Of course, I would like to see OS/2 well represented in the Vendor
Exhibition also, but this post is about the technical presentation).

So, does anyone know of any good speakers/topics that you have heard
that I might try to contact?

Note: we aren't looking for a sales presentation -- we are looking for a
technical presentation that would enhance our conference.

Any leads (or offers) would be most welcome,

Thanks,


orville

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Orville R. Weyrich, Jr.                           Weyrich Computer Consulting
Certified Data Processor                         POB 5782, Scottsdale, AZ 85261
Certified Systems Professional                        Voice: (602) 391-0821
Internet: orville%weyrich@uunet.uu.net                Fax:   (602) 661-0660
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From: jwhite@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Joseph White)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Question about OS/2 emulated DOS, how it works???
Summary: Do TSR's leave 'holes' in memory
Date: 14 Dec 92 03:26:09 GMT
Organization: Annapolis Detachment, CARDEROCKDIV, NSWC  Code 2723 
	      (formerly David Taylor Research Center, Annapolis MD)

I have a question about how OS/2's emulated DOS handles TSR's.  Under
MS-DOS, if you loaded a TSR after shelling to DOS from a program (ie,
under a secondary shell) you end up leaving a 'hole' in memory.
 
How does OS/2 handle the same situation?  I ask this because I am
trying to run NCSA Telnet with a packet driver under OS/2.  Until late
Friday, I thought that I had it working, but then as I was leaving
work for the weekend, I decided to check my e-mail, and got messages
about the DOS program not having enough memory to run, would I like to
change the DOS settings?  The end result of this experience is that I
am reinstalling first thing on Monday 8-(.

I was under the impression that when you exited from an OS/2 emulated
DOS shell, that OS/2 cleared up the memory that was used, and made it
available for an other use.  Is that right?

To run Telnet, I had created a batch file that looks like

@echo off
3c503 ......   <TSR packet driver
Telnet %1
exit

Is this batch file leaving the packet driver in memory, not in a
usable state, but taking up a block of memory?  I ask this because at
the time that OS/2 was telling me that the DOS program didn't have
enough memory to run, I was running nothing else, and I have an ISA
bus computer with 20Mb of memory, so I know that at least 10Mb or so
must have/should have been available.

Under MS-DOS, the batch file had two additional lines that allowed the
packet driver to be removed from memory, by running a mark.com program
before the packet driver, and a release.exe program to clear the
memory up to the spot marked by mark.com, and reset the interrupts
back as they were befor the packet driver.  Are these programs
necessary unser an OS/2 Full screen DOS session to not leave the
packet driver consuming memory, but not in use.

Joe White
jwhite@oasys.dt.navy.mil
An OS/2 neophyte, but loving it and learning more about it every
minute I use it.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: th9708@meibm8.cen.uiuc.edu (Todd Lee Henderson)
Subject: Interleave for a new WD AC2200 IDE drive?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:02:55 GMT


Some time ago I saw several articles concerning the optimum interleave
for a disk drive using HPFS.  However, I didn't follow them to closely.
I seem to remember something about the optimum for OS/2 is 1 higher than
the bios returns as optimum???

I would also appreciate anyone who has the WD AC2200 IDE drive sending
me some email with their interleave and what they think of it.

I posted something several weeks ago about the differences between the
Maxtor 7213 and the WD 2200 and would like to thank everyone for 
responding.

Also, what is the optimum hpfs cache for 16 meg or 20 meg of system memory?

Thanks for everything.

Todd
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
From: bradleyt@spot.Colorado.EDU (Todd Bradley)
Subject: Re: Some news from PC Week
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:08:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.202617.25112@itsmail1.hamilton.edu> jmalloy@itsmail1.hamilton.edu (Joseph T. Malloy) writes:

(about John Dvorak)

>Actually, he did me a favor: I no longer read him.  There's getting to
>be ever less worth reading in PC Magazine these days.  It may pay to
>drop my subscription and just buy, at the newstand, the issues that
>concern me.  

I dropped my subscription to PC/Computing because of him.
I'm a happy guy now.

Todd.
-- 
| Todd Bradley -- Official Microsoft Spokesman
| You are in a twisty maze of opinions, all different.
|
| "Trust me."
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: orville%weyrich@uunet.uu.net (Orville R. Weyrich)
Subject: Re: IBM won't accept Internet problem reports any more
Keywords: IBM problem report compuserve cis
Reply-To: uunet.uu.net!weyrich!orville
Organization: Weyrich Computer Consulting
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 01:58:01 GMT

In article <1gj7vvINN2sk@agate.berkeley.edu> stanton@haas.berkeley.edu (Richard Stanton) writes:
>In article <95004@rphroy.ph.gmr.com> rbotimer@max.ct.gmr.com (R Douglas Botimer) writes:
>>CompuServe is on Internet.  Don't have the details here, but you can send mail  
>>to CompuServe subscribers via Internet (without having an account yourself).   
>>I'll post the detail as soon as I find them.
>
>That's what I did (send to xxxxx.xxx@compuserve.com). That used to be OK, but
>they will now only accept reports from Compuserve IDs.
>

Did they give any reason for this? I can imagine a couple, but they are
just guesses:

	1) they want a filter -- people have to spend money to have
	   compuserve accounts.

	2) they have been criticiased for "exploiting" the net for
	   commercial advantage.

	3) they don't consider the internet community important.

	4) they want to spite their face, and so attack their nose with a
	   meat cleaver.

None of these reasons seem to make much sense.



orville

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Orville R. Weyrich, Jr.                           Weyrich Computer Consulting
Certified Data Processor                         POB 5782, Scottsdale, AZ 85261
Certified Systems Professional                        Voice: (602) 391-0821
Internet: orville%weyrich@uunet.uu.net                Fax:   (602) 661-0660
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Boot Manager:  SCO UNIX Partition?
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:00:52 GMT

In article <1geq1nINNn1e@neuro.usc.edu> merlin@neuro.usc.edu (merlin) writes:
>I have an Adaptec 1542b & IBM 0661 (400 MB) SCSI disk.  I can boot OS/2
>just fine -- but moving the cursor to the SCO UNIX setting just ends up
>bombing at boot time.  Is there any trick to booting SCO UNIX SYSV/386
>3.2r2.0 ODT 1.1?

Do a keyword search with "sco" on the file /pub/os2/00Index, available
via anonymous ftp from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.  I believe I sent a utility
there not too long ago which gets SCO Unix working in conjunction with
OS/2's Boot Manager.

-- 
Timothy F. Sipples      | Read the OS/2 FAQ List 2.0h, available from
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/info
Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
of Chicago, 60637       | [Read the List, THEN post to ONE OS/2 newsgroup.]
From: Bob.Batson@mtask.omahug.org (Bob Batson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 Monthly is *finally* shipping! (I hope!)
Date: 11 Dec 92 16:01:06 CST
Reply-To: bob.batson@mtask.omahug.org
Organization: Multitasking Systems, Kansas City
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.misc

djm@lems30lems.brown.edu (Daniel J. Mashao) writes:

 > How can I subscribe to OS/2 Monthly. I know there is a subscribtion fee
 >  but
 > what is their telephone number and/or address.

        JDS PUBLISHING 
        P.O. Box 4351
        Highland Park, NJ 08904
        U.S.A.
        1-800-365-2642                  (subscriptions)

1 year--12 issues / $39
2 year--24 issues / $75
$45 / year to Canada or Mexico
$77 / year to all other countries


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Standard disclaimers apply. The above was posted for informational
purposes only!

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Bob Batson                   | "Deck us all with all with Boston Charlie, 
bob.batson@mtask.omahug.org  |  Walla, Walla, Wash., and Kalamazoo!"      

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Of Mice and Modems.....
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 00:02:26 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.220903.14553@actrix.gen.nz> Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>If you have your mouse on COM2 and your modem on COM1....then swap them.
>I was having trouble with up/downloads and TE/2 recently. But a helpful netter
>suggested I swap the ports as this problem is common whatever the OS.
>Sure enough! He was right.
>No more problems.
>SO: Mouse on COM1 and modem on COM2.

And here's the semi-technical explanation.

COM1 uses IRQ 4 and COM2 uses IRQ 3.  With the IBM compatible design
(using Intel and compatible hardware), interrupts with lower numbers
are serviced first.  Hence, the system gives the nod to IRQ 3 (COM2)
if it has to choose between two "simultaneous" interrupts generated on
both lines.

Note that non-AT bus architectures alleviate this problem quite a bit.
The AT bus has served us well, but it is getting a little long in the
tooth.

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Timothy F. Sipples      | Read the OS/2 FAQ List 2.0h, available from
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/info
Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
of Chicago, 60637       | [Read the List, THEN post to ONE OS/2 newsgroup.]
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: tee@ecf.toronto.edu
Subject: Re: OS/2 Text Screen Editor?
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:46:56 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.004932.24352@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <enk2.28.724284667@po.cwru.edu> enk2@po.cwru.edu (Erik Kovach) writes:
>There are several.  In particular, take a look at TinyEdit and TEDP,
>both available via anonymous ftp from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.  Check the
>main index file /pub/os2/00Index for location.


   That reminds me - has anybody experienced problems with TEDP using the
SLU's standard VGA drivers? I've been using Joel's 1024x768x256 drivers for
the VGA Wonder since ten minutes after installing the SLU, but I recall
that TEDP wouldn't work in the time between in a window with the stock
drivers.
   Of course, my TEDP is different from everybody else's. <g> But I can't
imagine any of the changes I've made since May to have such an effect.
 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: How do I change the pixel depth
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:43:13 GMT

In article <Mark_Morrill-171292104031@mac84082.educ.ualberta.ca> Mark_Morrill@itc.educ.ualberta.ca (Mark Morrill) writes:
>My screen has 16 colours (4bpp). I would like to change it to 256 colours.
>The 'Master Help Index' tells me to use the  'System Setup' -> 'System'
>software (What are those icons in the 'System Setup' window called?). It
>tells me that I should see a 'Screen' tag. I do not see a 'Screen' tag.
>How do I conjure this Screen tag?

Please see the FAQ List for advice on this subject.

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sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/info
Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
of Chicago, 60637       | [Read the List, THEN post to ONE OS/2 newsgroup.]
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jks4675@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: XGA-2 Clarification
Reply-To: jks4675@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 06:34:16 GMT

For those of you who I misled...
The ISA XGA-2 board will cost $499

The MCA XGA-2 board will cost $399.

If you can justify why a 32-bit card costs LESS than a 16-bit,
you will have my compliments, as well as the rest of the Microelectronics
Department here....

The cost difference is due to IBM, not Radius.

Enough.
From: Eric.Chan@ttlg.UUCP (Eric Chan)
Sender: postmaster@ttlg.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Diamond Stealth....cheap...buy?
Date: 18 Dec 92  18:52:56 mst

Where can you get that card? Is it in US?
Thanx

 * Origin: Mach2 Vulcan OS/2 Systems 1-403-489-4250 (42:100/20)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mikel@networx.com (Mike Lempriere)
Subject: Re: How To Install 32-bit Trident drivers
Organization: NetWorx
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:18:56 GMT

Carl B Jabido (cj00+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:
: Well, after a few hours of playing with the new 32-bit Trident drivers,
: here's what I've found:

[stuff deleted]

: 2) Backup the following files:
: 
:     \os2\svga.exe
:     \os2\mdos\vsvga.sys
:     \os2\dll\bvhsvga.dll
:     \os2\dll\ibmdev32.dll
:     \os2\dll\ibmvga32.dll *** <-Note that this wasn't mentioned in the  
:                                       install.txt directions
:     \os2\dll\*.fon

FYI:  I did not have a \OS2\DLL\IBMVGA32.DLL to backup.

[more stuff deleted]

: Install the Windows drivers just like it says in the readme file.
: Note that the installation process doesn't even touch Display.dll.  I
: don't know if you can get rid of it or not, but I still have the
: standard driver installed.

When all was doen, I tried to delete it, but the system would not let me
as the file was in use.

[more stuff deleted]

: This is what it took to get the drivers working on my system.  It may be
: different on your's, and I can't guarantee that it will work.  Don't
: flame me if you have to reinstall everything.

[.sig deleted]

Thank you for taking the trouble to help us all out with this.

However, now that I've done all this, how can I tell if it really worked?
My screen doesn't look or act any different than before.  I believe
Excel redraws are a little faster, but it's pretty tough to be sure.
Can I attempt to copy/delete/move some file that would now be in use
that was not in use before the 32bit drivers were installed?  Is there
a program I can run that tells me?
From: jurlwin@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU (Jeff Urlwin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Adapteck 1522 SCSI interface and support by os2?
Date: 19 Dec 92 16:32:51 GMT
Organization: University of Maine, Department of Computer Science

In article <1992Dec18.172117.24946@st-andrews.ac.uk> mrm@st-andrews.ac.uk (Malcolm R. McLeod) writes:
>I am in the process of upgrading my no name 486 PC and am thinking of
>doing so by adding some SCSI hard drives to the system. Locally I have
>seen a resonable price quoted for the 1522 Kit and have been assured it
>works with the Quantum 240S drives I am interested in, the big question
>is whether os2 will support the interface without haveing to go via INT13.
>
>I also have the option of a Future Domain 1670DNK, would this be a better
>bet for os2/dos?

The 1522 will work.  OS/2 comes with drivers for adaptec controllers.

I'm pretty sure there are OS/2 drivers for the FD, but I'm not sure if
the FD is better than the Adaptec.  I have the 1542B Adaptec, and I'm
VERY happy with it.  Everybody in the world (seemingly) supports it.

I know FD is pretty darn good about drivers too...

Good luck.

Jeff



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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: victor.ng@rose.com (victor ng)
Subject: OS/2's guts are 16bit
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 22:01:28 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.70)


Date Entered: 12-19-92 16:45
I heard from someone that some of the in OS/2 is 16-bit.  I thought he
was talking about the GRE in GA but he's not.  What's this guy talking
about, or is it just more BS?

Vic
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: g1nickut@cdf.toronto.edu (Nick Zahariadis)
Subject: Re: Installing Linux on an OS/2 system, using Boot Manager
Organization: University of Toronto Computing Disciplines Facility
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:43:05 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.192003.10358@ultb.isc.rit.edu> djs6015@ultb.rit.edu (Don Smith) writes:
>
>Hi There...
>
>Does anyone have any info that can help me make my Linux Partition
>bootable from the Boot Manager? When I try to boot it from the Boot
>Manager it says that its not a formatted drive... help!

 Put me on the list as well. I'm interested to know.
 
 Thanks,
 Nick.


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 to mess up beyond repair today."
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From: Chris.Collins@f366.n632.z3.fidonet.org (Chris Collins)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Where is my welcome fold
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 22:28:00

JD> Same problem on my side, but no power loss 
during installation. 
JD> I have installed SP on our German version with modified syslevel,
but I 
JD> did not get the welcome folder as described in the readme file. 
JD> All the rest is OK (now I have a mixed German/English system), but
how 
JD> do I install the new ET4000-drivers without the described procedure
using the 
JD> welcome folder? 
JD>  
JD> Thanks in advance, Joerg.  
 
Joerg, 
 
     Got to a full screen OS/2 command window. Change to the \OS2 
directory and run DSPINSTL. This will install the files for you.  
 
     Shutdown and reboot and you will have 1024*768*256 colours  
drivers for both the WPS and WinOS2 
 
     Best regards, 
 
     Chris 
 
 * KWQ/2 1.0C * 
                            
 * Origin: Spectrum Anarchy - OS/2 Support +61-3-563-6830 (3:632/366)
From: lars@spectrum.CMC.COM (Lars Poulsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Have I been hosed?
Date: 16 Dec 92 06:24:28 GMT
Organization: CMC Network Systems (Rockwell DCD), Santa Barbara, CA, USA

In article <FuXsVB1w165w@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca>
   frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca writes:
>was given the 16550AN chip.
>SO -- have I been hosed for an upgrade chip that isn't an upgrade chip?
>Why does everyone talk about the AFN chip but I've never seen the AN
>chip mentioned?

The "A" indicates the fix to the FIFO buffer. The "F" indicates "Fast"
logic. I think it may be needed on very fast buses. You don't say what
kind of computer you have, so I can't say if this is relevant.

Most likely, the UART is ok. (If you have a microchannel machine, it
most likely is not OK.) Why the software doesn't work I don't know.
I never typed to OS/2.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: pidgeon@acca.nmsu.edu (Pidgeon)
Subject: Turbo C/C++
Organization: Alternative Collegiate Computing Association
Distribution: comp.os.os2.app
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:41:25 GMT

This has probably been addressed many times before, but I'm interested in 
Borland's Turbo C++.  Are there any known problems with running this under
an OS/2 VDM, particularly with the huge pointers and the debugger? 

Any other caveats or suggestions for the most efficient settings?

I'd appreciate any help.  Thank you.

pidgeon (pidgeon@acca.nmsu.edu)

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (Jeremy Mathers)
Subject: Where do things go when you move them to a folder?
Summary: I guess I don't understand the mapping from filesystem to GUI...
Reply-To: pynq@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: D. J. Dougherty & Associates
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:55:38 GMT

Here's the scenario:
	1) I open up the drives Icon, and then open up a Icon view of a
	   directory on the hard disk.
	2) This gives me a display of all the files in that directory.
	   (This display maps directly onto what I get if I go to a DOS
	   window and do a dir of the directory)
	3) Now, I create a folder in the directory that is being
	   displayed, and move a file from the directory Icon view into the
	   folder.
	4) Now, I go to DOS, and do a dir of the directory, and lo, the
	   file is no longer there.  Worse, the file is nowhere on the
	   disk (I used a DOS file find utility, and it was nowhere to
	   be found)  So, where is it?
	5) Finally, if I go back to the desktop, and move the file back
	   out of the folder into the directory Icon view, then when I go
	   to DOS, the file is there.

I am running GA.

Is there no way to have the file be in a folder, and also visible to DOS?

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