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From: tfpayn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Athas, my home.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:40:44 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

-- 
	Well, here's my .02.

	Athas, from my understanding (having endured two seasons here), was
once a rich and lush environment, just like Greyhawk, until overzealous
mages/clerics, greedy for power, warped the fabric of the world until it lay in
the shape it is today.  Even the sun was ravaged in their quest for power, and
in the ensuing battles...

	The psionic abilities of the peoples comes from the magic that lays in
the earth and from the radiation from the sun.  A mere glance at the sun could
tell you this is NOT a normal star.  Thus, Athas is a magical world, trying to
come back from the edge of disaster.

	As for the lack of metals?  There have been tales of caches of steel,
hidden by dwarves long ago...my party chanced upon such a cache, and were able
to retreive enough items to be well-set for the rest of our lives, had not
plague come to Tyr....

	We now quest in the lands of the Dark elves, Menzoberanzan.  My the
spirits be with us!

	Humbly yours, 
	
	Sable Reaver of the Earth Cosmos, Assasin 7th class.


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From: smith@ctron.com (Lawrence C Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.dnd
Subject: RE: Well, more stories
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:20:56 GMT
Reply-To: smith@ctron.com
Organization: Cabletron Systems, Inc.

>In article <1992Nov13.194147.22556@wheaton.wheaton.edu> kroth@david.wheaton.edu (Ken Roth) writes:
>>2)  Party is sleeping by the shore, when a large raiding party of Sahaugin
>>attack, starting with a javelin with silence cast upon it being thrown
>>into the middle of the party.  Then, as the battle continues, the mage (our
>>mage) keeps casting spells, and I never tell her she can't (yeah, I forgot,
>>OK?).  At the end of the battle, we rememebr the silence.  I let the battle
>>stand as it happened?

>>Did I make the right choice?

Of course - obviously, the javelin silence was just a scare tactic, a poorly
crafted spell that broke the moment it had to contend with a _real_ sound...

...or else it was not "silence" but "quiet" and the mage cold cast as long
as she did it loudly enough...

...or maybe she was casting in True Speech, which cannot be silenced
magically since it is itself the langauge of magic...

...or maybe...well, you get the idea.

Hey, this is what GM's are _for_ Ken!

Larry Smith (smith@ctron.com)  No, I don't speak for Cabletron.  Need you ask?
-
Liberty is not the freedom to do whatever we want,
it is the freedom to do whatever we are able.
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Subject: Re: Testing for Biased Dice
From: wright@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Michael G. Wright)
Date: 16 Nov 92 02:13:01 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

dks@acpub.duke.edu writes:


>	This is called a chi-square test, and an article with the
>procedure and numbers for it appeared way back in Dragon issue 
>#74...  Thank you, Mr. Longley, for reposting it (or did you come
>up with it in isolation? =) ) for the benefit of those who don't
>have the issue (probably most readers).
>						-Abdiel

Actually, I use a program I made to roll dice for stats. Unfortunately, nobody
in the party wants to use it, because dice rolls invariably end up better. I
think this must be because of the pseudo-randomness of the program. 
Anyone out there that knows better?
-- 
Michael Wright            _-_|\     Peg- "Al, can I have a thousand bucks?" 
LaTrobe University,      /     \     Al- "Why sure honey, have you got change
Melbourne, Australia.    \_.-_*/          for a million?"
wright@latcs1.lat.oz.au       v                Married with children. :-)
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From: kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov
Subject: Re: A very good POINT on Bow Profic.
Originator: kjenks@gothamcity
Keywords: surprise
Organization: NASA/JSC/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:23:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.162148.25224@random.ccs.northeastern.edu> mmidura@ccs.northeastern.edu (Marc Midura) writes:
>
>Well, I can accurately fire 8 arrows in 30 seconds at a stationary target.
>[...]
>Does anybody give their players additional shots and/or to hit bonuses for
>staying stationary while shooting? 

No, but...

An obscure AD&D1 rule allows TRIPLE normal fire rate during surprise
segments if you have your missile weapon ready.  If you roll a 6 and
the monsters roll a 1, that's 5*2*3=30 arrows in 30 seconds.
Pincushions, anyone?  

AD&D2 surprise rules make much more sense, and they're easier to find
in the books.  I'll give 3,000 XP to the favorite PC of the first
netter who correctly identifies the page in DMG1 where that obscure
"triple normal fire rate" rule can be found and posts the results here.

-- Ken Jenks, NASA/JSC/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office
      kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov  (713) 483-4368

      "Orcs appear particularly disgusting because their
       coloration -- brown or brownish-green with a bluish sheen
       -- highlights their pinkish snouts and ears.  Their
       bristly hair is dark brown or black, sometimes with tan
       patches."
         -- AD&D Monster Manual 1, p. 76.
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From: wilsonm@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: Re: 3d edition
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:46:18 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.054538.20383@wam.umd.edu>, barth@wam.umd.edu (Kevin J. Barth) writes:
>>	A UK correspondent of mine from another newsgroup says that, overseas,
>>there is a rumour about a 3d edition AD&D trickling over there from the
>>States. Is this true? I promised him I'd ask.
>>					Rosaleen Dhu
> 
> Another new edition?  Not too likely.  It took them what, 20 years to come out
> with 2nd edition, and there is still a lot more to go before it gets old and
> decrepit.

I do not think it took them 20years to come up with 2nd ED - unless you refer
to the fact that they worked UP to 2nd ED from the start... I would have to
disagree with your statement that they would not though... They could release
a 3RD ed rather easily and not make to muh upset... Just make a few rule
changes here and there and add a few classes, but that is my thoughts...

> 
> Not to mention that T$R will have to deal with or face losing TONS of already
> aggravated players if they come up with another new edition so soon.  They 
> couldn't possible be THAT greedy and that stupid.

I do not think there are tons of po'd players out there, just ones that are 
angry that TSR still does not produce 1st ED stuff. Even at that I would say
most of the people in RPG's would rather try 2nd ED than first... I have
played both 1st and 2nd for a good while and also the "between" times with
Unearthed Arcania rules... and I still prefer 2nd ED.


>
From: ag@ax.apc.org
Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.dnd
Date: 20 Nov 92 03:55 PST
Subject: Needed : Forgotten Realms Material
Nf-ID: #N:ax:51300005:000:1126
Nf-From: ax.UUCP!ag    Nov 20 03:55:00 1992


  Hello, fellow rec.gamers !

  I tried subscribing to the Forgotten Realms mailing list using
  the contact information that appeared in the FAQ of
  rec.g.frp.announce conf, but without success.

  I sent an e-mail to John Feldmeier <johnf@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>,
  but have not received any answers.

  Has somebody any news about this particular list (if it is still
  active, who is responsible, has it been archived somewhere,
  ...)

  Incidentally I also had no joy trying to communicate with
  Christopher M. Knuth <cmk113@psuvm.psu.edu> about the "Tome of
  the Forgotten Realms" (Net.Forgotten.Realms.Book). Has anyone
  some hints on where this one might be found (archived) ?

  I am currently preparing a giant-campaign in Forgotten Realms
  and I am collecting all the Realms-related material that I can
  get my hands on. If anyone has any pointers to me, I would be
  very grateful.

  Many thanks!

  Aguinaldo Rangel                              <ag@ax.ibase.br>

  <<< Boy, if you never knew a HOT place you have to go to one of
  the Nine Hells, or to one of my city's (Rio) beaches on January
  ;-)    >>>


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From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado)
Subject: Re: Girdle of Femininity/Masculinity
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 01:59:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.192114.13531@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.140955.4090@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado) writes:
>>I was in a campaign where this did actually happen. We had a mage (transmuter
>>actually) who was doing item identification for the party. Well, as is part
>>of the identify spell, he had to put the girdle on to properly identify it...
>>whammo...instant chick.
>
>Isn't the item limited to warrior, thief, and cleric classes?

Doesn't matter what class limitations the item has. As part of the identify
spell, the mage _must_ use/wield/etc... the item to be identified...and he/she
suffers any resulting penalties that the item specifies. Read the identify
spell more closely...most people abuse the hell out of this spell.

>--
>"the bogosity in a field equals the bogosity imported from related areas, plus
>the bogosity generated internally, minus the bogosity expelled or otherwise
>disposed of."  -- K. Eric Drexler
>
>Ken Arromdee (UUCP: ....!jhunix!arromdee; BITNET: arromdee@jhuvm;
>     INTERNET: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu)

Kevin

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From: barnett@mummy.agsm.unsw.OZ.AU (Glen Barnett)
Subject: Re: Spicing up combat?
Organization: The Australian Graduate School of Management
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 06:54:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.185906.17368@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> praxis@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Laura L Perkinson) writes:
...
>best opponents. If they use the same kind of tricky stratergy as the PC's,
>and most importantly, inspire fear and loathing, then fights with them
>will have some gusto. Super-villains for D&D. Think on it.
>		Praxis
The best AD&D I played in, when we were quite low level we were captured
by higher level guys (brigands? I don't recall exactly), who took just
about all our stuff, and tied us up and left us with cannibals. We got
free, (after teaching the cannibals about adventurer clear soup - sorry
that's a Goodies joke), and getting them back was a long term goal for 
a while, by which time we'd really fleshed out our characters. Having
a real "opponent" can be very helpful, not just for combat, but for
the campaign.

Glen
From: mittman1@athena.mit.edu (Christopher T Chiu)
Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.dnd
Subject: AD&D referendum question(was re:3rd ed.)
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:21:58 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

>In article <1992Nov22.054538.20383@wam.umd.edu>, barth@wam.umd.edu (Kevin J. Barth) writes:
>>>	A UK correspondent of mine from another newsgroup says that, overseas,
>>>there is a rumour about a 3d edition AD&D trickling over there from the
>>>States. Is this true? I promised him I'd ask.
>>>					Rosaleen Dhu
>> 
>> Another new edition?  Not too likely.  It took them what, 20 years to come out
>> with 2nd edition, and there is still a lot more to go before it gets old and
>> decrepit.
>
>I do not think it took them 20years to come up with 2nd ED - unless you refer
>to the fact that they worked UP to 2nd ED from the start... I would have to
>disagree with your statement that they would not though... They could release
>a 3RD ed rather easily and not make to muh upset... Just make a few rule
>changes here and there and add a few classes, but that is my thoughts...


You're right about the time thing--it only took TSR ten years to
come up with 2nd Ed. AD&D, since AD&D started in 1979.  However,
a 3rd ed. is highly unlikely...my question is, 

how many people out there think there should be another edition??
From: s892341@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Matt=Goodall)
Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.dnd
Subject: Re: wish spell results
Date: 18 Nov 92 02:39:16 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au


	A wish spell is power I would allow the above wishes as long as they
were phrased without rule mechanics in them. "I WISH the next spell I cast will
be irresistable!!!", "I WISH the next spell I cast will be the ultimate in
POWER!! (has a certain ring to it). The DM controls when and where wishes come
into the campaign so why bother with the "can't affect an unwilling being"
next you will want to make the spell thrid level!.

Matt

-- 
Matt Goodall
s892341@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
Famous last words: "Who's the bitch with the spiders?"
From: jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin)
Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.dnd
Subject: Re: To Kill a Black Dragon
Keywords: Dragon
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:03:03 GMT
Organization: The little node that could...

booth@mdd.comm.mot.com (Greg Booth) writes:

> ..is to prepare, you need invisibility, silence, bless spells,
> lots and lots of long range spells and missile weapons.

We are forgetting one VERY important thing about this situation. We are
dealing with the kidnap of a PRIESTESS. The characters should also contact
her church, and see what aid they can render... Perhaps loaning a Paladin,
or some divine information about creature.

     In our campaign, a priestess was captured, and my Paladin was told to
free her from imprisonment. He asked the party if they would help on this
good and just mission, to which they said, "Sure!! It the money is GOOD,
and JUST enough, we'll do it." So, he, very insulted, went on his own to
free her. After struggle and strife, he managed to get the gal, defeat the
nasty, and got a level out of it... He was 100 xp away from the next
level, after all was said and done with XP, *and* after having giving away
ALL the money to his church ('cept for some to cover his costs, and a
*little* extra for future use...  all of this was MAYBE %5), and keeping
only *ONE* item for himself (Ring of Levitation). His diety, after seeing
his epic task, and his bravery, gave him the 100xp, plus 1 more, just to
make sure... *smirk*

     This was just to give you an idea of what use Paladins can be... They
are the puppets of goodness, which is as it should be.


                                   Jeff

...From a tiny little node called Eternal!
--
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From: marks@sci.kun.nl (Mark Stoutjesdijk)
Subject: Re: The Final Results of AD&D survey!!!
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:08:08 GMT

In <23NOV199210181728@phobos.ucc.umass.edu> s9877751@phobos.ucc.umass.edu (s9877751) writes:

>Well here's the final results of the AD&D survey:
>WHAT'S YOUR FAVOURITE AD&D ADVENTURE(S)/MODULE(S)?


>#1	16 votes	Ravenloft (I6) (the first ravenloft)
>#2	10 votes	Tomb of Horrors (s1)

			^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 

Eat this! It's gonna be loads of fun! I know, you'll probably die, but hey,
that's what priests are for :^]

-ahem- sorry for this off-topic writing... I'll never do it again.

	promise.

	I really do.

	Greed$,
		

		MARK

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From: mbecke69@ursa.calvin.edu (Mark Becker)
Subject: Re: Will anyone run PBEM _D&D_??
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:09:11 GMT

unregistered@newcastle.ac.uk (R.J.Collingham) writes:

>I have seen lots of people offering to run play by email (PBEM) AD&D
>campaigns and lots of people saying they prefer the non-advanced
>D&D game since the new Rules Cyclopedia came out. Well, putting
>2 and 2 together to get 5 (!), is anyone willing to run a _D&D_
>PBEM adventure?

>Let me be the first volunteer player.

>Russell

I gladly add my name to the list!
Mark

>--------------------------------------------------------------------
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>Computer Science (SECS) ***undergoing id change - beware email problems***
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From: scythe@stein.u.washington.edu (The Grim Reaper)
Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.dnd
Subject: Re: Girdle of Femininity/Masculinity
Date: 21 Nov 92 18:41:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov21.184118.9342
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <of3aIeG00Vp0A9J=Ip@andrew.cmu.edu> "Joseph E. Beck" <jb8n+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado) writes:
>
>> if you are the wrong class. Always keep in mind that the mage suffers any and
>> all penalties encurred as a result of identification...that is the major 
>> drawback to the most powerfull 1st level spell.
>
>Hmm...another bid for "the most powerful first level spell".  Here are
>the others I've heard:
>
>unseen servant 	(my favorite)
>phantasmal force (like unseen servant, very versatile)
>sleep	(unless you're fighting elves it's excellent)
>grease	(most people forget grease is flammable)
>
>
>	joe
How about:
Tenser's floating disk-
  Fill it with oil, light the oil, tell it to go chase those enemies over
  there.  Once it gets on top, dispel the disk....
  Have someone ride it (not the caster)
  Travel over a squeaky floor by use above
  All sorts of fun things =)
Read magic-
  I'd say it's pretty powerful, since every single mage wants to have it
  in their spell books =)
Color Spray-
  No save if the caster is same level or more, up to a 6HD creature...

When he goes swimming does he get wet, | The Grim Reaper
Or does the water get him instead?     | scythe@u.washington.edu
-They Might Be Giants, "Particle Man"  |
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From: bane@spock.uucp (Cameron Huang)
Subject: A new, improved PBeM
Organization: Acheron Technical Institute 
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:12:58 GMT

Hello, All. You may know me as the dork who keeps writing stupid flames.
Well, this dork wants to start a new Play by E-mail campaign. I know that
tons o' people want to join a Play-by-email, so...

If you want to play e-mail me in reply. DO NOT, I repeat *DO NOT* send
characters (I get too much damn mail already). I will mail you back the rules.
The campaign will take place in the Forgotten Realms, since it is fairly
generic DND. I will play standard AD&D2 with some changes. So, if you are
interested, you know what to do.

					--Lord Bane
-- 
"If love is blind, I guess I'll buy myself a cane."
                                   --W. Axl Rose

"There can be only one!"
		--Kurgan

bane@choate.edu
From: drool@retreat.Bah.Rochester.NY.US (Paul Coene)
Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.dnd
Subject: Re: Looking for some C-programs that were posted.
Followup-To: rec.games.frp.dnd
Distribution: world
Reply-To: drool@retreat.Bah.Rochester.NY.US
 <1992Nov9.005202.16678@serval.net.wsu.edu>
 <1992Nov13.093223.2361@atri.curtin.edu.au>
Organization: 
Keywords: 
Summary: 
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:34:10 EST
Organization: Not an Organization

> In article <1992Nov13.093223.2361@atri.curtin.edu.au>,
> clarke@atri.curtin.edu.au (Nathan Clarke) writes:
> 
> <>
> <>I too am interested in such programs. If there are any Unix programs
> <>available for randomly generating characters, determining treasure etc,
> <>I'd be very grateful if someone were to point me in the right direction.
> <>Thanks in advance,

Hi.  My AD&D 2nd editition character generator for sun3/sun4 is
available on ccosun.caltech.edu in the /pub/incoming area I believe.
Look around in there, it has an immense name that I dont recall, but
it is quite descriptive.  ADD_2ndEditionCharacterGenerator or
something similar.

										<: Drool :>

ARPA: drool@retreat.Bah.Rochester.NY.US   UUCP: kodak!bisco!retreat!drool
Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.dnd
From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Subject: Re: Girdle of Femininity/Masculinity
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:21:14 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.140955.4090@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado) writes:
>I was in a campaign where this did actually happen. We had a mage (transmuter
>actually) who was doing item identification for the party. Well, as is part
>of the identify spell, he had to put the girdle on to properly identify it...
>whammo...instant chick.

Isn't the item limited to warrior, thief, and cleric classes?
--
"the bogosity in a field equals the bogosity imported from related areas, plus
the bogosity generated internally, minus the bogosity expelled or otherwise
disposed of."  -- K. Eric Drexler

Ken Arromdee (UUCP: ....!jhunix!arromdee; BITNET: arromdee@jhuvm;
     INTERNET: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu)
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From: covin@tartarus.uchicago.edu (David Covin)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Recommendations for High-Level Adventures
Organization: University of Chicago Computer Science
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:34:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.042256.16014@leland.Stanford.EDU> thedm@leland.Stanford.EDU (Marcus M. Trevino) writes:

   Well, a very difficult adventure, although not 2nd Ed, is the Halls of
   Beoll-Dur.  I am not sure whether you can purchases it in stores because
   it appeared in a Dragon magazine edition( in the 40s), but if you do get
   ahold of it, Your DM should be somewhat impressed by its difficulty.

Halls of Beoll-Dur is cool, but has a few consistency problems in the
lowest level. Most of the salamanders own flammable magic items,
potions, scrolls, ivory carvings, etc, with no particular explanation
of how this is possible.  Also, the DM would be wise, if the lower
level is used as described, to write up beforehand a few sets of
defensive plans which the salamanders must surely have thought up
during the centuries that they've occupied the place.  This will make
deciding on the creatures' reactions to invasion a lot faster in
practice.

Temple of Poseidon, also published in an old Dragon issue, is another
good high-level horror-style adventure, rather Lovecraftian.

Dungeon magazine often has high-level adventures.  I particularly
recommend "A Rose for Talakara" for obscene-level characters... :)

--
David Covin                           covin@despair.uchicago.edu