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From: wmagro@uiuc.edu (William Magro)
Subject: Re: Christmas Wish List (<$100 US)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:39:05 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.170947.8229@newshost.lanl.gov>  
hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson) writes:
>In article 7rq@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu,  
kllove@vigilanti.ecn.uoknor.edu (Kenneth L Love) writes:
>>>>I have $100-$110 (US) to buy myself a Christmas present.  I've decided
>>>>to get something for my Mega 2ST (w/ TOS 1.02, 2 MBs RAM, 105 MB HD,
>>>>SC1224, SM??? [monochrome monitor], 720K floppy) system.  I'm looking  
for
>>>>suggestions.

[...]

>>However, I would definitely prefer more memory!  Anybody know what the  
best
>>route to upgrade is (e.g. SIMMs or more of the kind that came in my  
Mega)?
>>Cheapest?  Keep in mind that I will NOT be doing the upgrade myself.
>
>Cheapest = DRAMs.
>Most Convenient = SIMMs.
>
>

I'd have to disagree with John here.  In my experience, SIMMs have become  
cheaper than DRAMs (likely due to their increased popularity).  In any  
case, though the relative price difference (i.e. delta(P)/P) is small  
enough that you should make the choice based on the convenience and cost  
of the upgrade board (or soldering project if you don't use a board).

Incidentally,  I came across my notes from my boardless SIMM upgrade I did  
a couple years ago to take my machine to 2.5M.  I could post the pinout  
information, and a general description of my procedure if anyone is  
interested.  It is pretty similar to the existing docs floating around on  
the net...

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From: Chuck.Grimsby@p1.f47.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Chuck Grimsby)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: GFA 3.07: RESERVE XX; EXEC 0,"prg"; RESERVE - help.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 05:27:54 -0600

In a message of 17 Dec 92  19:33:57, Pieter Filius wrote:

PF>   Hello regular posters and occasional lurkers of this group, 
PF>   For those more than vaguely interested in GFA 3.XX, better yet:
PF>   heavily involved in it, 
PF>   hear me cry:
PF>   I simply wish to execute any specified program, 
PF>   chosen via a fileselector box from my application, 
PF>   whilst keeping my application resident.
PF>   There. Pretty simple really. My Data-Becker manual tells me to use: 
PF>   RESERVE <some amount of memory>
PF>   EXEC 0,"SOME.PRG","",""
PF>   RESERVE 
PF>   in which the last RESERVE should reset things as they were.
PF>   QUESTIONS:
PF>   * How would I go about using the RESERVE command sensibly, 
PF>     not knowing what to reserve for an unknown program?

First off, the GFA manual for 3.0x has the RESERVE command backwards from what
it should be.  You want to use _negative_ numbers for the RESERVE statement.

Second, in the GFA interpreter for GFA 3.07, the RESERVE statement without a
number to 'release' the memory area doesn't work.  It'll work fine when
complied, but not while you're in the interpreter.  Exiting the GFA Basic
interpreter is the _only_ way to gain back the memory you've RESERVED.

When using RESERVE to allocate memory, you don't need to know how much memory
the prorgam you're going to run will take, you need to know how much memory the
program you're currently running is using, and apply that to the RESERVE command
as a negative number.  For example, if your program is using 200K of memory, you
want to use RESERVE -20000.  The rest of the memory is then available for
whatever program you want to run. 

 * Origin: FlightLine PointNet Point 1 (1:282/47.1)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: sakaria@vipunen.hut.fi (Sakari Aaltonen)
Subject: Re: scsi floppy drives
Reply-To: sakaria@vipunen.hut.fi (Sakari Aaltonen)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:21:43 GMT

In article <199213.4514.27702@dosgate> "calvin bruner" <calvin.bruner@canrem.com> writes:
>Has anyone even SEEN a SCSI floppy drive for sale..?
>

I have seen TEAC spec sheets for an SCSI floppy drive (up to 2.88meg). Also,
an SCSI adapter that could be fitted onto a (normal) floppy drive; this
would supposedly work only for TEAC drives. The prices I was quoted were
steep, and I backed off without actually SEEING a drive.

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From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
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In <1992Dec14.193731.1968@news2.cis.umn.edu>
		davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu writes:

>I, on the other hand, wondered just what the hell David was doing talking to
>folks at Atari who had obviously never programmed on an ST in the first place.
>LYNX programmers ... for crying out loud.

	I was wondering the same thing myself. What the heck was Atari doing
having the software for an ST/Falcon reveiwed by their LYNX programming
group? Is this another example of how "in touch" Atari management really
is? 
-- 

 "If Rush fans were braindead, why are there so   Bruce Bufalini
 many people posting to alt.music.rush?"              PSU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: jonord@solace.hsh.se (Joakim Nordlander)
Subject: Re: Comparisons between two fine machines...
Organization: Solace Computer Club, Sundsvall, Sweden
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 16:28:43 MET

In <Bz6vFJ.18v@ucunix.san.uc.edu> klasmekj@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Kevin J. Klasmeier) writes:

>Comparisons between two fine machines: the F030, and the Amiga 1200.

>                        Atari Falcon         CBM Amiga 1200

>external floppy          no                  yes

 WHAT??? NO EXTERNAL FLOPPY???? 

 Well, anyway, looking at those datas, I prefer F030... OK, A1200 has better 
graphic, but I liked the other data on Falcon more than those on the A1200...

 /Jocke
From: ph9991_imm@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Licence Transfers... who gives a damn?
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:42:12 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls

It's me again from Moo U, and I have a important question:

I have a friend on this campus who's the ultimate left-wing supporter
of copyrights, against piracy et al. He tells me that before buying
ANY software from anybody here on the net, I should demand that the 
seller produce a software-licence-transfer-agreement form. How
realistic is this for you out there?  How agreeable is everyone,
(from a legal and ethical standpoint?) I honestly thought that if
I could sell my friend copyrighted tapes or CD's, couldn't the same
be applied to software?

Yours Naively,
L. Imm
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From: hjwulfso@unix.amherst.edu (Harris Wulfson)
Subject: Re: DSPs
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:54:29 GMT

     The built-in DSP is of paramount importance to musicians (even more so
than the built-in MIDI of the ST's). With the proper software (which I sure
hope comes out), the Falcon can be used for digital multitrack recording and
editing of up to eight tracks at 16-bit 48Khz CD-quality. Now THAT is an
application of the DSP. 
    I hope to see integrated MIDI and recording sequences (like Studio Vision
for Mac) on the Falcon. Does anyone know if something like this is being
developed. The D2D software that comes with the Falcon is supposedly not
professional-level.

--
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hjwulfson@amherst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: christof@wowbagger.pc-labor.uni-bremen.de (Christoph Koerner)
Subject: Re: Best Llamatron Score
Organization: University of Bremen, Germany
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:01:43 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.084130.19966@spc.nl> stefan@spc.nl (Stefan Posthuma) writes:

>A friend of mine plays it without the droid, gets to the last level, the
>Ozric Tentacle (or something) and just milks it for points until he gets
>bored. He's up to 7 mil I believe and could have restarted at level one with
>>100 lives if he wanted. He says he's exhausted the game :-)

Hell, how does he do that? Two-joystick setup? I haven't got one. One
two-joystick setup, I mean :-) 
And could you explain how to 'milk' the O.T. for points? That this
should be possible has escaped me as yet.

And: From what I've seen from level 100 onwards, methinks that at some
point you just end up dying all the time, no matter how many lives
you've got (after all, this is the philosophy the game suggests). The
enemies just get too bloody fast from some point onwards.

Christoph
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From: seibert@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Ewald Seibert)
Subject: Re: GFA 3.07: RESERVE XX; EXEC 0,"prg"; RESERVE - help.
Keywords: Help, resident prg, executing others, reserve memory, how
Originator: seibert@hphalle5c.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 08:28:32 GMT


|>  RESERVE <some amount of memory>
|>  EXEC 0,"SOME.PRG","",""
|>  RESERVE 
|> 
|>  in which the last RESERVE should reset things as they were.
|>  
|>  Since the RESERVE command as such is sort of obscure to me
|>  (HOW would *I* know what's needed for the application of John Doe's choice)
|>  I simply type RESERVE 1. 

Oh No! ... RESERVE tells GfA-Basic the amount of bytes to keep for your
Basic-PRG

Better use
		RESERVE( FRE(0) - <some Kbytes not to mess things up> ))
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From: kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon030, resolutions, TRUE color, and DSP
Summary: Interesting. PC Trash again.
Date: 21 Dec 92 01:37:25 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

In article <1h2r5bINNqv5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys) writes:

>Ed, I can buy a 386 DX 25 MHz clone with an 85 meg HD, 8 expansion slots,
>a 3.5" 1.4 meg drive, a 5.25" 1.2 meg drive, and a SVGA monitor for
>$799.

My guess is this $799 mix-n-match computer you mention has many shortcomings.

What is the maximum transfer rate between the clone and the hard disk? Probably
not impressive. If you buy a hard disk capable of transfering 2 megs per sec.
to the computer, will it be able to handle that?

Is the graphics card (if any, you did not mention one) attached directly to
main memory (32 bit memory?), therefore letting the CPU work on the graphics
data directly, or must things pass through a slow 8Mhz bus or some other hack?

Does this clone have a fast RS-232 port cabable of at least 256,000bps? Can
you plug in joysticks and play games? Analog joysticks? Does it have MIDI?
Does it have a network port? Whenever you may feel the need for any of these
things you will have to dish out money you know. Does it have a battery backed
clock? Does it have SCSI or SCSI-II connectors? Dream on.

Does this clone have sound capability beyond that of a 1985 Amiga/ST?
(It obviously is nowhere near the Falcon's. Even with the SB Pro, at extra
expense, it wouldn't. Of course, I am ignoring the DSP for your sake)

Does it come with a mouse? Is mouse support automatic in all programs?

My fellow, you will have to fill up those '8 expansion slots' if you want
to get similar performance as a Falcon does out of your machine. Cards don't
grow on trees, btw.

>No, Atari's needs an edge besides the DSP.

You have overlooked too many things. For one, the Falcon with it's Multitos
should run quite smoothly. I have heard the opposite claim many times for
386 PC's using windows. The Falcon is also a COMPLETE  computer with quite
some performance in many respects. That's the edge.
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From: wmtwen@rw8.urc.tue.nl (Erlend Nagel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Yeah ZNET newsgroup finally made it!!!
Date: 15 Dec 92 11:34:12 GMT
Reply-To: wmtwen@urc.tue.nl

Finally we have the alt.znet.pc newsgroup!!!!
Great!
Now I am only wondering why alt.znet.aeo never made it.

Erlend.
Xref: sparky comp.sys.atari.st:18250 comp.sys.atari.st.tech:6225
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 15:22:32 EST
From: J.J. Lehett <JJL101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: gem progs run from gulam lock up
Distribution: world

    I have had the same problem with my own GEM programs locking up when run
with the GEM prefix in Gulam... however ONLY on the second attempt at running
the program (often during testing).  I use GCC 2.2.2 how about you?
    I haven't had the windowing problem you mentioned I don't think though.

    On my own programs, it is odd, since this seems to be the case each time:

    I run through any of my own GCC compiled programs from gulam.  Exit and
get returned to gulam.  Now ANY other program I run locks seemingly the second
that program tries to open a window.  Its odd since this does not happen if I
do it all from the desktop.

    Any suggestions out there?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: Surely someone knows...
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 10:38:27 GMT

In article <1gb05qINNhm@katmandu.solbourne.com> stevem@solbourne.com (Stephen Matson) writes:
> How to add memory to my 520 ST. I asked yesterday but did not get a 
>reponce. Maybe if I'm annoying someone will help :^)
>
>
> So...
>
>   What type of RAM chips are needed to upgrade?

120ns or better. Good luck finding chips as slow as 120ns, though. I had to put
80ns ones in my machine, and that was about 3 years ago...

>
>   What value are the caps?

Huh?

>
>   Plug 'n Play or do I need to do anything else?

If you mean "will the computer automatically recognise the extra memory," yes,
it will. If you mean to ask if you need to do anything else besides sticking the
expansion board in your computer, well, it depends on which upgrade kit you get.
Many people swear by kits that require soldering. I have a Z-RAM 3D which
required no soldering at all, and I haven't had a problem in the three years
I've been using it. Basically, it all comes down to how you're having it 
installed. If you're doing it yourself, and you can use a soldering iron,
go for the solder-installation model. If you've never used an iron, but
still want to do it yourself, get the plug in model. If you're having your
friendly neighborhood dealer (and just how many of those are left? Heck, at
this point I'd even settle for a HOSTILE neighborhood dealer!) do it, they'll
probably want to solder it in...


>
> ANY answers to ANY of these questions will be rewarded.

Ok, where's my reward?

>
> And I'll even say please :^)

I'll say you're welcome, even!


>
>
> Thanks...
>
>   Steve Matson


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: oyakea@lib102.its.rpi.edu (Amalaye Oyake)
Subject: Re: So what does this mean to us ?
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 03:14:35 GMT


 Many ST users like myself have been following this raging debate between Mr.
Bagget and others. The revelations have been no doubt shocking. Mr. Bagget
appears thouroughly frustrated and has seemingly <--- NOTE I SAID SEEMINGLY
given up on the ST. 
 Now I like many other ST users plan to buy a Falcon because i simply like my
ST and I like the idea of a dsp ( as a college student and comp.sys major
the Falcon provides a cheap alternative to a NeXT and nice too ). THE PC 
MARKET IS REACHING VOLATIVITY in my eyes, (power pc, P5, Alpha, Apple etc), 
so i will stay where i started off (Atari, i've also used most other systems).



MY QUESTIONS:

1) WILL MR. BAGGET STILL MARKET GAME WORK BENCH OR HAS HE GIVEN UP ?

2) IF YOU REPLY, PLEASE STATE IN YOUR HONEST OPINION IF YOU THINK ( note i am
talking to anybody reading this )  THE FALCON WILL SUCCEED.

3) PERHAPS QUESTION 1) SHOULD BE TITLED CAN MR. BAGGET STILL MARKET GAME
WORKBENCH ?

4) WHAT DOES ALL THAT HAS HAPPENED, (CONCERNING MR. BAGGETS VISIT TO SV CA.)
MEAN TO THE AVERAGE ST USER ?

6) HOW WERE MR. BAGGETS GAME ROUTINES SUPERIOR TO ANYTHING DONE BY PEOPLE
LIKE THE BITMAP BROTHERS ( ST DIEHARDS ), OR EVEN JEFF MINTER ?

7) SO WHAT MACHINES WOULD ONE RECOMEND BESIDES A FALCON ?

ALL THE ABOVE ARE JUST QUESTIONS, SO I WOULD PREFER IT IF YOU DO NOT JUMP 
ON MY CASE. .

amalaye oyake ---> a curious st user. 

---> curiousity killed the cat but satisfaction brought him back.

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Subject: ST-Format
From: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (steve wells)
Date: 16 Dec 1992 20:31:05 GMT
Reply-To: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Are ST-Format useless or what?
 
Saying the Falcon runs at 30-35MIPS.  Saying the ST has a palette of 256
colors.  Putting the same captions of a program on completely different
screen-shots of completely different programs.  Filling their mag' with
Sega, Nintendo, and Amoeba ad's.
The cover disks have also gone down the drain, 2-MIDI sequencers in
1 year - both of which are pretty horrible, and I only know of a couple
of people who even have MIDI.  And they all have decent software like
Notator, or Cubase or some such thing!
They also have a habit of publishing complete solutions to games either
before or as they are released, or a couple of weeks later, which ruins it
for the guy who just spend $50 on a game, and who was enjoying the
puzzles, only to have half of it solved before he could quickly turn the
page!  Also saying the Falcon can display Super-VGA graphics (640*480*256
is hardly super-VGA).

They're getting worse, the magazine looks 'orrible lately too!  

That's my wibble!
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From: ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: "DiskDoubler" type program
Date: 17 Dec 92 00:03:08 GMT
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

In article <71746@cup.portal.com> Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com writes:
>There are several choices in the PC market for "disk doubler" types of
>programs, but the only one widely available in the US was Data Diet, and
>now its future is unclear..

Why is its future unclear?  Are you talking again about things that you know
nothing about, Bob?  I've had a beta version of Data Diet 2.0 for quite a while
and I expect upgrades for version 1.0 owners to start shipping this month.
I have the flyer right here.



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From: healy@nosc.mil (Mike Healy)
Subject: Re: intellectual property and shit
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:47:49 GMT

Will everyone advocating people to write software for the art of it
with no concern about making making a living please raise their hands?

Thank you. Now will those of you in this group who have children to
provide for please raise your hands :-)

Computers feed my kids enabling me to do the really important thing in
life - play my guitar :-)

Mike

healy@nosc.mil

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: sundsted@amnese.eng.uab.edu (Todd Sundsted)
Subject: Spectre 3.X
Summary: Has anyone heard anything about a new version of Spectre
Organization: University of Alabama at Birmingham
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:11:26 GMT

I just got back into this news group after a couple months absence, and was
wondering if anyone has any news on Dave Small and the Spectre.  I vaguely
recall hearing bad rumors concerning the whole thing, but that was some time
ago.  So, what's the latest news....?
					Todd

* Todd Sundsted - sundsted@amnese.eng.uab.edu
* University of Alabama at Birmingham - Biomedical Engineering Department
*      "Let thee not eat beans."
*            - Pythagoras
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Portfolio Software
From: craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz (Craig Shore)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:52:36 +1200
Reply-To: craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz
Organization: Equinox Networks (Public access), Node: Yonder
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992

In <1gn61cINN27r@golem.wcc.govt.nz>, sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:

>We don't have Atari support here in New Zealand any more..

Correction.... _you_ don't have support in your part of NZ.
 There is a computer software shop here, which I am told sells
 atari stuff, and there's a computer shop that will service the
 ST... they get their spare parts from Australia or the USA.
There's suppost to be some new dealer for the country now as well I think.

 Craig.

 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: ggranger@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Greg Granger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: MiNT-list ... how?
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 09:12:25 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

How do I sign up to the MiNT-list?  Any help would be greatly 
appreciated.

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From: ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon030, resolutions, TRUE color, and DSP
Date: 20 Dec 92 18:43:51 GMT
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

In article <1h0eelINNeqh@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys) writes:
>
>Atari is already BEHIND in technology with the Falcon030.  The only thing
>that the Falcon has over ANY other system is the DSP chip.

You forget, it's an entry-level machine.  It's not supposed to have the 
latest technology.


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