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From: stigers@mail.physics.utah.edu (charles stigers)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: More "Election Year"
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:24:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: fcom.1992Oct15.192410.29958
Organization: University of Utah - Physics Department

In article <1992Oct15.122417.1@ualr.edu>, bproden@ualr.edu writes:
|> In article <1992Oct13.191559.10901@nosc.mil>, clarkk@nosc.mil (Kevin D. Clark) writes:
|> >  I was returning home on a plane Monday and noticed that close to two-thirds of
|> >  the people on the plane were either reading about or talking about the debate
|> >  Sunday evening.  Listening to them bemoan the political scene and discuss
|> >  which candidate was the lesser of the evils reminded me of a Steve Camp song
|> >  from one of his albums several years ago.  The album was called "Justice", but
|> >  the name of the song escapes me.  Part of the song goes like this (...this is
|> >  from memory, so please excuse any misquotes...):
|> > 
|> >        "Politicians all make speeches and the newsmen all take notes.
|> >          I wonder who would lead us if none of us would vote?...."
|> > 
|> >  Just a seasonal thought (...bet it wouldn't be Bill, George, Ross or Andre.)
|> 
|> That line is from "The Great American Novel," originally written and recorded
|> by Larry Norman.
|> 
|> Brian P. Roden
|> Leisure Arts, Inc.
|> Little Rock, AR

       The song is rewritten and performed by Steve Camp on his
  "Justice" album and is titled the same.  (Just my two bits worth).

                     Chris Stigers  --   stigers@mail.physics.utah.edu
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 11:30:22 -0400 
From: Robert William Weiman <rw2w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: More "Election Year"

What about Steve Taylor's "It's a Personal Thing"?

later,
bob

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From: burtp@rs6314.ecs.rpi.edu (Philip Nason Burt)
Subject: imosh - i don't have all of them! (do you?)
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:04:52 GMT

if you are looking for intermosh articles from before this september,
i'm afraid that you will have to look elsewhere (i don't have them).
if any one has, or know someone who has, been saveing the early ones,
email them to me so that i can distribute them.

thanks

philburt
From: clifton9220@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: God's holiness!!!
Date: 7 Oct 92 12:10:51 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

GOD IS HOLY AND AWESOME.  That does not depend on the blessings he gives us. 
God does love us, but we are sinners and he is just.  Our arguements must seem
really petty to him.

Ken.
From: mmcgreg@uswnvg.com (Mark McGregor)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: INFO: Seattle area concerts
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:58:33 GMT
Organization: U S WEST NewVector Group, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5



FYI

Some upcoming Seattle area events:

Oct 16/17:  Josh McDowell
            Location:  Calvary Fellowship
            Price: Offering

Oct 17:     Geoff Moore & The Distance
            Location:  Calvary Temple Seattle
            Price: $10 (I think)

Oct 31:     Katina Boyz
            Location:  Calvary Temple Seattle
            Price: FREE/Offering

There is also a major concert in November at People's Church in Tacoma,
but I can't remember who all is playing -- I think one of the people is
Steven Curtis Chapman, but don't quote me.  There is a group discount if
you purchase blocks of tickets in advance.
From: crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Bob Dylan
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:17:58 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Oct9.184053.15178@cbnews.cb.att.com> ajw@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.j.whitman) writes:

>You *trashed* your LPs for CDs?  Aaargh!  I love those old antiques.
>Wouldn't get rid of mine for anything.

They make great frisbees.  So do 45s.  Especially when you've had a
really, really bad day.  Actually, I've saved a few LPs because they're
not available yet on CD.  But I move around too much to lug much
baggage, so the LPs had to go.  Besides, they sound cruddy.

>I have to confess, however, that I do love my 9-LP boxed set of Dylan 
>covers called "Who Zimmin' Who," featuring Harry Belafonte, William
>Shatner, Mae West, The U.S. Marine Band, Lawrence Welk, Percy Faith,
>The Ray Conniff Singers, Hugo Montenegro, Peggy Lee, X, The Pretenders,
>Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels, XTC, Bob Marley, Walter Cronkite,
>Cher, Sebastian Cabot, and lots of others.  

Hold it.  Just hold it here.  Walter _Cronkite_?  You know what, a
collection like that might just convince me to keep a turntable.




-- 
The trick of reason is to get the imagination to seize the actual world --
if only from time to time.     -- Annie Dillard, "An American Childhood"
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From: trw@spl1.spl.loral.com (Tim R Witort)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: >>>>>> 77's <<<<<<
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:34:46 GMT
Organization: Loral Software Productivity Laboratory

Just listened to my Sticks and Stones CD again last
week and just had to say this....

Zowie! Katowie! Bim! Bam! Skiflang!
Is "The Way Love Is" the best song you've ever heard 
or what!!!!

Okay... I'm done. Thank you for your attention.

-- Tim
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From: trw@spl1.spl.loral.com (Tim R Witort)
Subject: Re: Amy Grant's "So Glad"
Organization: Loral Software Productivity Laboratory
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:03:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.143115.18389@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, jlaplant@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John R Laplante) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct10.044605.19226@newshost.unh.edu> ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink) writes:
|> >
|> >I'm trying to figure out the lyrics to Amy Grant's "So Glad," but there is one
|> >line in the chorus that is giving me a lot of trouble.  Please, if there's
|> >anybody out there who knows the line, could you email or post?  THANKS!!!!!!!
|> >
|> >--
|> >
|> >And I'm so glad,
|> >Glad to find the reason,
|> >That I'm ?????????
|> >That you've torn it all away,
|> >And I'm so glad,
|> >Though it hurts to know I'm leaving
|> >Everything I ever thought that I would be.
|> >Once I held it in my hand.
|> >It was a kingdom made of sand.
|> >But now You've blown it all away.
|> >I can't believe that I can say,
|> >That I'm glad.
|> 
|> I've always thought that the line was 
|> 
|>   "that I'm happy-sad"
|> 
|> this seems to be consistent with the theme of the song -- the pain and
|> joy of growoing in discipleship, broadly speaking.

   Not only is it consistent... it's correct! The line is indeed
"happy-sad."

-- Tim
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From: mdk34398@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike Krupicka)
Subject: Re: Stryper
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:35:39 GMT

jmdeyoung@acs.harding.edu writes:
>I have wondered about this for along time and was reminded about the other
>day when my wife and I were talking about X-tian music.  The question I have
>concerns a rumor I heard that Stryper once toured with Motley Crue and they 
>called the tour the "Heaven and Hell Connection".  I realize this may be a
>real big joke but I am curious.  If you have any responses I would love to
>hear them.  Thanx.

Rumors. Though they usually had secular acts doing warmup. I think Hurricane
opened up both times I saw them. (Many, many moons ago)

>In His Service,
>Mark

Mike Krupicka
beaker@uiuc.edu
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From: pdt@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Peter David THOMPSON)
Subject: Greenpeace (was Re: Extreme)
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 04:41:48 GMT

Phil.Powell@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Phil Powell) writes:

>I always wondered why New Zealand blasted that Greenpeace freighter out of
>the water... NZ is a peaceful country and I always thought Greenpeace is a
>peaceful organization, a bit too left-wing for my views at times, however..

>Phil

There was a smiley in that, wasn't there? It was the French government that
was responsible for the sinking of the Rainbow Warrior. Two of the agents
responsible served a whole three years of imprisonment on a tropical
island.

Anyway, I'd be very interested in the CD availability of the following
albums:
White Horse by Michael Omartian (his first and best)
Seasons of the Soul (also Michael Omartian)
2nd Chapter of Acts (with footnotes) by 2nd Chapter of Acts
In The Volume of The Book by 2nd Chapter of Acts.
Through a Child's Eyes by Anne Herring
Anything by Randy Stonehill before and including Celebrate This Heartbeat
Anything by Mark Heard pre-Dry Bones Dance (especially Eye Of The Storm).
If someone feels driven to tell me, could you email?

There are only 4 Rick Cua albums, aren't there?

* These opinions belong to pdt@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU unless otherwise specified.
You were expecting an intelligent, witty, and articulate .signature? Ha!
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From: chaplin@keinstr.uucp (Roger Chaplin)
Subject: Re: Jonathan David Brown convicted
Organization: Keithley Instruments, Cleveland, Ohio
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:06:33 GMT

CARL SEILER (st1t0@elroy.uh.edu) wrote:
: Regardless, as a sheltered anglo-American, I am interested in carrying on 
: conversations with Christians of other etnic backgrounds.  It has
: 
: been said that Sunday is the most segregated day in America, and I
: wondered if you would care to share your feelings on the subject.

I would be interested in seeing such a discussion, but not in this
newsgroup.  Perhaps soc.religion.christian.

-- 
Roger Chaplin / chaplin@keinstr.uucp / CI$: 76307,3506
"For the lines are long and the fighting is strong and they're breakin'
down the distance between right and wrong."
                        - Bob Dylan, "Ring Them Bells"
From: shrchin@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk (Jonathan H. N. Chin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: AMY GRANT LYRICS AVAILABLE!
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:10:41 GMT
Organization: University of Reading

ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink) writes:

>Sounds like a good time to make this announcement.  I am in the process of
>typing in the lyrics to all the Amy Grant songs on her albums.  About forty
>of her songs are available by anonymous ftp at cs.uwp.edu in the
>/pub/music/lyrics/files/grant.amy directory.  However, they aren't all there.

I thought lyrics were copyrighted? Doesn't one have to obtain the publisher's
permission before reproducing them?

jonathan
-- 
Jonathan H N Chin, 8 kyu \ Dept. of Cybernetics, \ "Respondeo, etsi mutabor"
                          \ University of Reading \
shrchin@uk.ac.rdg.susssys1 \ Box 225, Whiteknights \ < Rosenstock-Huessy >
bq305@cleveland.freenet.edu \ Reading, RG6 2AY, U K \
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Subject: LARRY NORMAN in CLEVELAND
From: bgbaker@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:57:21 EST

Larry Norman is coming to Cleveland Ohio on November 7th...
I will have more information in the next day or so (numbers to call,
ticket prices, etc)


Has anyone else seen or heard of him doing a show since his heart attack?

						Gary
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: jlaplant@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John R Laplante)
Subject: Re: Amy Grant's "So Glad"
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 14:31:15 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.044605.19226@newshost.unh.edu> ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink) writes:
>
>I'm trying to figure out the lyrics to Amy Grant's "So Glad," but there is one
>line in the chorus that is giving me a lot of trouble.  Please, if there's
>anybody out there who knows the line, could you email or post?  THANKS!!!!!!!
>
>--
>
>And I'm so glad,
>Glad to find the reason,
>That I'm ?????????
>That you've torn it all away,
>And I'm so glad,
>Though it hurts to know I'm leaving
>Everything I ever thought that I would be.
>Once I held it in my hand.
>It was a kingdom made of sand.
>But now You've blown it all away.
>I can't believe that I can say,
>That I'm glad.

I've always thought that the line was 

  "that I'm happy-sad"

this seems to be consistent with the theme of the song -- the pain and
joy of growoing in discipleship, broadly speaking.



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jrl+@osu.edu                        political analysis done while you wait

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From: snorthc@relay.nswc.navy.mil (Stephen Northcutt - K31)
Subject: Carroling
Reply-To: snorthc@relay.nswc.navy.mil
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center	
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:32:19 GMT

I am working on a project and I would like to share the idea with you
all, if anyone thinks the idea is any good at all, feel free :-)

Every year our church goes christmas carroling which is kinda fun,
we get together and freeze and trip all over the 2nd and third verses,
and suggest several songs before there is a consencus of which one to hit
and whoever leads the song off picks the key, which may well have notes
that are outside folks vocal range (silent night's last 5 measures for
example).  Oh yes and there is the singing from 4 or 5 versions of xerox
copies (BTW are they legal :-) :-) ) so song umpty squat is on a different
page in each copy.

Grand and glorious fun is it not :-)  Then after we are finished, we
head to the church for milk and cookies and all things fattening :-)

This year it is gonna be different!  I ordered 30 copies of the Mel Bay
carroling book which has a large bold and readable typeface and 
separates the music from the words so most people don't get confused :-)
(BTW can we use those books for performance :-) :-) )  The books retail
for $1.95 so they didn't cost me much at all and I expect most people will
be willing to reimburse me.

We have also had three practices already with some core people, figuring
out the keys we want to work in and working on the harmony parts (SATB).

So anyway the idea is NOT to have a smoother slicker christmas carol. but
to use this time honored tradition as an evangelistic tool.  So when
we carrol a house, if the people come out and smile, groups of two will
be appointed to come and ask them if they would like to hear more about
the story of Jesus.  If so, those two will stay behind.  We are also adding
scripture readings to the performance, the immanuel verses in isiah, the
magi section out of Matt. and the story of christmas as told in John.

Of course it is a bit early to be christmas carroling, but we started
early because:
	- life gets really hectic between thanksgiving and christmas
	- choir style singing takes some serious practice

After 2 or so more practices, I think we will be ready for our first
performance, I am trying to arrange a tue. evening time with some of
the nursing homes.... those people are usually so happy to be entertained
and have someone to talk to that they don't care if you are "out of
season".

Anyway, it is just an idea, along the theory of putting Christ back
in christmas :-)  If you have any suggestions, I would love to hear
them.  If you decide to try any of this, please drop me some e-mail
and let me know how it went.

thank you!
From: urmvance@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: 2 Bride shows in Ohio
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:06:56 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1992Oct14.225515.855@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu>, bgbaker@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu writes:
> Bride is coming to the KIng's Place in Columbus Ohio on November 7th.
> Admission is free... a don't miss Heavy Metal show...
> (For directions, contact me)
> 
> Bride is also doing an Accoustic Set North of Cincinnati on October 31
> (in case you didn't read my other post)
> Admission is free...
> (For directions, contact me)
> 
> 				Gary
> 
Well, that's just swell. Tell me, please tell me, are they coming to the
Memphis/Nashville/anywhere-in-Tennessee area? If so, do post! Appresh!
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From: st1t0@elroy.uh.edu (CARL SEILER)
Subject: Re: Jonathan David Brown convicted
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:31:00 GMT

In article <Bvs1xr.Lx0@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, ismith@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Chris Smith) writes...
>>Evidence confiscated from Brown's home included signed membership
>>cards for the Ku Klux Klan and Aryan Nations, and a picture of Brown
>>saluting a Nazi flag. 
> 
>As an African American who likes many of the artist he has produced,
>Double WOW!!
> 
> 
>-- 
I WOW'd this post too.  I hope justice is served and this guy gets
what he deserves from the judges on earth as well as heaven.  

Regardless, as a sheltered anglo-American, I am interested in carrying on 
conversations with Christians of other etnic backgrounds.  It has

been said that Sunday is the most segregated day in America, and I
wondered if you would care to share your feelings on the subject.

Carl

Carl Seiler                         |  Department of Econonmics
Graduate Student                    |  University of Houston
ST1T0@jetson.uh.edu                 |
Neither I nor anyone else is responsible for what I post.  It may be generally
considered hogwash, nonsense, and dribble.


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From: phil@eecs.nwu.edu (William LeFebvre)
Subject: Re: Fearful Symmetry (DA) on disc?
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:47:48 GMT

In article <Bw17v1.KDD@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, cwf50862@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chippen ) writes:

|> vox humana was supposed to have been released this summer so look for it.

It's not out.  Last rumor I heard was "don't hold your breath."

|> also look for terry taylor's solo albums which alsoshould be re-issued, and 
|> there is an unconfirmed rumor that Horrendous Disc might also be re-issued
|> by larry norman (oh, i hope so)

That would be most emphatically cool.  As the disc label says: "play loud"....

		William LeFebvre
		Computing Facilities Manager and Analyst
		Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science
		Northwestern University
		<phil@eecs.nwu.edu>
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From: isc30366@nusunix1.nus.sg (HO TUCK CHIUN)
Subject: Re: >>>>>> 77's <<<<<<
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:35:10 GMT

Chippen (cwf50862@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: isc30366@nusunix1.nus.sg (HO TUCK CHIUN) writes:
: >Chippen (cwf50862@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: >: JHIATT@130.187.170.178 (JOHN HIATT) writes:
: >: >  I concur!  Excellent.  Why don't they do more studio stuff?  I have their
: >: >live album called 88 and its lame.
: >: >John.    JHIATT@GEMINI.SIM.ES.COM
: >: The new 77's album is on it's way.  I don't know the name (it used to be  
: >: "Pray Naked").  Look or ask for it in you local ccm store it is being shipped.
: >: catapult this combo to teenage stardom (yea so they arn't teens).
: >   It's called 'seventysevens'.  Supposed to be out already (according
: >to the local Word distribution release notes).
: >: chip
: >Rodney Ho
: hey I'm confusied is 'seventysevens' the name of the album or a rerelease of
: the old exit release album named after the band (not that i doubt you I'm
: just confused) can any one clear this up??

   Ooooops, lemme explain a bit.  The working title for the new 77s
album was "Pray Naked".  The official release title is "seventysevens"
(that's according to the release notes sent out by Word to it's
distributors).  The title could be changed again...  Anyhow, the
"official" title is "seventysevens" and it's not a re-release of the old
exit release album.  Hope this clears up some doubts.

: also the reason why I didn't think it was out in the stores yet was last week
: I talked to one of the staff a local c-store and they were waiting for it 
: to come in.

   I'm waiting for news from the local distributor on this...

: chip 

Rodney Ho

hotuckch@iscs.nus.sg
isc30366@nusunix1.nus.sg
From: drice@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Keith Rice)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Jonathan David Brown convicted
Date: 7 Oct 92 22:45:08 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of North Texas

Just read this today.  I figured you all would want to know (if you
don't already).
----------------------------

Taken from Dallas/Fort Worth Heritage newspaper...

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (EP) -- Long-time Christian music producer Jonathan
David Brown was convicted Aug. 20 of helping two men avoid prosecution
for a 1990 drive-by shooting of a synagogue, and of two counts of
perjury to a federal grand jury.  CCM Update reported that Brown was
convicted of helping Leonard William Armstrong and Damien Patton avoid
prosecution for a drive-by shooting to which Armstrong and Patton
later pleaded guilty.  Prosecutors said Brown helped paint a car used
in the shooting from white to black, provided a new license plate and
a disguise, and sent money to Patton, who was fleeing to California.
Evidence confiscated from Brown's home included signed membership
cards for the Ku Klux Klan and Aryan Nations, and a picture of Brown
saluting a Nazi flag.  Brown has produced albums for Twila Paris,
Petra, the Gaither Trio, and Bob Bennett, and recently released an
album of inspirational music.

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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 10:32:40 EDT
From: <WJS116@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: a MUST SEE CONCERT COMING

Also, Bride will be in concert, Nov. 7, in Columbus (actually
Renyoldsburg), OH at The King's Place.  The concert starts at 7:30
and is free, but seating is limited.
From: n3x092@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Geoff Lloyd Burian)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Fearful Symmetry (DA) on disc?
Date: 11 Oct 1992 22:15:24 -0700
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: gambier.rick.cs.ubc.ca

Has the great DA album "Fearful Symmetry" made it to CD yet?

Oh, yes, and I saw something somewhere which talks about a DA live
"bootleg" album which was put out a while back.  Anyone have it?

Geoff B.



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From: jpeg8496@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey P. Elbel)
Subject: Re: globalWAVEsystem & DEITIPHOBIA news
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 03:49:38 GMT

Hi again.  I just want to clear up any confusion I may have just
caused.  The "Christian" that I know, who attends my church, and
is affiliated with gWs may not be the same one you are referring
to.  Sorry.  Nonetheless, the previous post still applies.

Jeff