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From: bill@verdix.com (William Spencer)
Subject: Re: Cross-over question
Organization: Verdix Corp.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 23:42:35 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.181521.27979@sei.cmu.edu> you write:
>I need help choosing which frequency at which to cross-over my woofer.
>I purchased a pair of KLH speakers for $200 last week. I decided to open them
>up and take a look at the innards only to find: A) No acoustic insulation
>                                                B) No cross-over( Only caps)

Caps are a crude crossover.

>                                                C) 10,000 gauge wire!!!
>I went to Radio Shack and bought Insulation, two 3-way crossovers, and already
>have an abundance of heavy speaker wire. There are 2 different settings for
>the woofer cross-over frequency 1600hz and 800hz. Which would be the ideal
>setting? Taking into consideration that this isn't a sub-woofer, at least I
>don't think it is because of it's, less than microscopic, magnet size.

Most likely, the best crossover is the original, providing the design was 
done with any intelligence and the roll-off from the caps matches the 
acoustic roll-off of the lower frequency driver.

Bill s
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: julichjh@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Joseph H Julicher)
Subject: Re: Building an outboard D/A processor 
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:29:34 GMT


In article <1992Sep21.214405.20002@seas.gwu.edu> phamtom@seas.gwu.edu (Dzung L.  
Pham) writes:
> I am an electrical engineering undergraduate student at George Washington
> University.  As a senior design project, I'm going to build an outboard D/A
> processor.  I'd appreciate any suggestions for parts, sources of
> information on digital audio, or comments in general.
> 
> I was also considering incorporating equalization capabilities within the
> digital domain into the D/A processor.  Does anyone know how difficult
> this would be?

Sounds like you should build a DSP based unit.  That would simplify  
equalization and many other things.  It would also do nifty visual effects.

Joe
julichjh@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
From: bremmer@stsci.edu (Marc H. Bremmer,S402,4458,ADD.11-14-91)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: High-end Speaker Drivers FOR SALE
Keywords: speakers
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:00:43 GMT
Reply-To: bremmer@stsci.edu
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute, Baltimore MD

For Sale:

1 pair VIFA 21WO20 21 cm Mid-woofers these are used by Snell Signet and
Others  Params..  Fs=28hz, Qts=0.32, Vas=115l, Xmax +/-4mm, 8ohm, cast frame, large magnet,
rubber surround, PVC dust cap poly cone .. Very smooth up to 3.5k. Excelent cond
$48each new will sell for $60/pair I will ship in the US

1 pair Dynaudio 20W75 ESOTEC This is a new Dyno unit it is a 7 to 8inch version of the
17W75 xl    It has A gorgeous Cast frame, one piece PHA cone, 3inch voice coil
rubber surround, dual magnet, Params are Fs=32 Qts=0.45 Vas=50l Xmax +/-4.3mm
or 8.6mm in Dyno's terms they are 4ohm and are reeeeel smooth sounding
easy to cross over handle 150w RMS and in dynaudio fashion are without compression
I bought four but only have need for two so....

GREAT FOR CAR AUDIO!!!
These are $120each new They are yours for $150/pair I will pay shipping they are in new cond
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: rup@pdib39 (Ruppert Georg (IMPRO))
Subject: Re: JBL PROGRAM FOR IBM 
Organization: Technical University of Graz, Austria
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 07:29:18 GMT

Hi Kent,

I am not familiar with the .zip file format, could you please tell me (us),
what program to use for unzipping?
Thank you.

Georg.

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From: tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Boston Acoustics via Mail Order
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:20:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvEwqr.3v0
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

chiu@gpb-mac.sps.mot.com (Norman Chiu) writes:

>In article <1992Sep29.155422.23976@bmerh85.bnr.ca>,
>shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> I had a quick look at a Stereo Review (Feb '92) that was lying 
>> around - there were at least 3 places that advertised that they
>> carried BA.
>> 
>   Those places are not authorized dealers of BA speakers.  I am
>too in the markets of BA speakers but I just couldn't find any
>mail order place that is an authorized dealer.
>    Anyone cares to supply a NAME of an authorized mail order place
>for BA?

>-Norman

What about Kiefs in Kansas?  They have a small add in the back of SR.  Their
prices were about $20-50 higher than 6th avenue(scum) on hd-5's and the 424v.

I didn't check, but I'm pretty sure they are an authorized dealer of
everything they sell.  They have 3 prices if you ask:

full service, i.e. pricy: usually for locals that will be returning stuff
                          for service, etc.

mail order: usually in the range of 6th avenue, but authorized(I think)

(if you ask about it) b stock: I asked what the deal was with b stock and
                               he explained it pretty good and said that they
                               will sell b stock, but they send out some 
                               stuff your supposed to sign to show that you
                               knew it was b stock.

The hd-5's I ordered, they were out of for a while.  When they came in, it
looked like they had scratched the shipping label from Boston out and relabeled
it and shipped it on.  This also leads me to believe that they are authorized.

I also got the Yamaha rxv-850 from them.  For ya'lls info:

yamaha rxv-850 + Boston hd-5's  = $800.00 including shipping cost.
Boston 424v = 166.00 including shipping

They included 40 feet of 12 gauge monster zip cord with them for that cost.

We plan on ordering a pair of T-830's in the spring.

Todd
From: marc@es.ele.tue.nl (Marc Heijligers)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Rewriting a Sony MD
Date: 30 Sep 92 07:41:07 GMT
	<MARC.92Sep29130424@mamba.es.ele.tue.nl>
	<92Sep29.124549edt.47907@neat.cs.toronto.edu>
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, Eindhoven, The Netherlands.
In-reply-to: tlai@cs.toronto.edu's message of 29 Sep 92 16:46:00 GMT

In article <92Sep29.124549edt.47907@neat.cs.toronto.edu> tlai@cs.toronto.edu (Tony Wen Hsun Lai) writes:

   The Sony MD uses direct overwrite magneto-optical media, so if it can
   buffer when reading, it should be able to buffer when writing.  Also, all
   MO media is supposed to be contact-free, no?

Well, I have heard rumours(!!!!) that during recording MD isn't contact free
at all. But again, these are rumours.

Marc
From: v035550@stortek.com (Steve Monroe)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Does Bang and Olufsen make good equipment?
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:53:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: stortek.1992Oct5.195353.2700
Organization: Storage Technology Corp.  Louisville, CO
Originator: v035550@stcvax

I have VERY limited knowledge of consumer electronics.
I have the opportunity to buy a used (but new) Bang & Olufsen
stereo system.  IS B&O a Danish company that OEMs Japanese 
stuff or is the stuff actually built in Denmark?  Is it any
good?  Responses appreciated via email or postings: your choice.

MANY thanks,

sjm
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: dalst6+@pitt.edu (Diaz A Luis)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Cambridge Soundworks--Opinions/experience?
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:53:25 GMT

I recieved the Cambridge soundworks catalog yesterday and I was flipping 
through it and it seemed as though the various magazines liked the sound of the
cambridge speaker systems.  I was wondering if anyone on the net has heard
or owns cambridge soundworks speakers.  Are they as good as they say? What do
they sound like compared to say...Bose or Kilpsh?  Any info is greatly 
appreciated.

						art

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From: huibingz@acpub.duke.edu (Huibing Zhang)
Newsgroups: rec.audio,rec.video
Subject: Any comments on DCM speakers?
Keywords: DCM speakers
Date: 3 Oct 92 21:02:36 GMT
Followup-To: poster

I'm looking for a pair of speakers for surround-sound channel. A
salesman in a local electronics store show me a pair of DCM CX-07
speakers made by DCM corporation in Michigan. They are two-way 
speakers with power handling capacity of 5-80w. I auditioned them and 
found they sound good. I would like to know more about the products
of DCM. Any comments and suggestions are wellcome. Please response to
huibingz@keynes.econ.duke.edu
Thanks in advance.
From: MATGBB@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU (BYRNES,Graham)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: CD player advice wanted
Date: 30 Sep 92 01:11:52 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <1992Sep27.185445.15892@husc3.harvard.edu> ndrose@husc8.harvard.edu writes:

> I have an aging Yamaha CD-X2 which is having some very odd problems. it began
> as a sort of tracking problem--it would occasionally go back to the beginning
> of a track for no reason, then it started having little hiccups of repeating
> a few seconds. now it can't seem to get past the first track, and the display
> flashes all kinds of meaningless things. also, the tray will often stay open for only abot 1/2 second, then close, or open only part way then go back in.
> Is all this likely to be part of the same problem? Is it worth getting fixed or
> should I just replace it? i was hoping to wait until recordable CD players
> entered the mass market before replacing this one.
> 
> Nathan Rose
Yeah, I had a CD-X2 that did all these things. I could fix it temporarily
by taking out the PCB with the controls on it, cleaning its multi-way
connector, cleaning some mould like scum off the back, and re-assembling.
It would then run 3 months in winter, or 3 weeks in summer. (I lived in Sydney,
which has quasi-tropical, hot wet mould growing summers)
Graham B
From: lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: IPL speaker kits
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:14:31 GMT
Organization: City University, London

Has anyone heard of or know about IPL kit speakers. I saw a stand
at the HiFi show from IPL for the first time, and now a friend is
thinking of buying one of their transmission line kits for 268
pounds which seems good value for a full range TL kit (810 mm high
with 8inch bass driver).

--
Lionel Tun   (lionel@cs.city.ac.uk)
Vision Group, City University, London, EC1V 0HB. 071-477 8000 x 3889
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: mhauser@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marc Hauser)
Subject: Re: Klipsch Again 
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:15:39 GMT

Well, IMHO, I really am not extrememly impressed with the Klipsch.  I know
that there are all of those owners out there that will probably kill me for
this, but I am not happy with them.

I have a friend that owns a pair.  He would drive them with his Yamaha
something or other model that has some insanely high amount of wattage whose
only purpose is to provide bass extension down into single digits.  Well, I
would hear his setup and say, "Wow, is this destroying the music, or what?" 
The whole midrange was getting ripped apart.  But hey, that's just me.  So, to
be fair, I hooked them up to my system, his pair of 5.2's that he had.

My system is essentially a CJ MV80 with KimberKable, a Rotel 855CD and a MOd
Squad Line Drive.  Though my speakers are a pair of Vandersteen 2c, which only
take bananna, so I used his ready Monster Cable instead of ripping apart mine.
 Which is usually for the best, or so I have found.

I put it together, and with the two of us in the room, did a lot of listening.
 Normally, he usually pipes through some lousy top forty heavy-metal or
something to that effect.  Well, I gave it my acid-test of a good dose of some
Jazz, Classical and the Dead.  I threw in some Miles Davis, Mussorgsky,
Berloiz, Ornette Coleman, Etta James, Jimmi Hendrix, Jerry Garcia and
eveything that I could think of that would bring out the best in the system.

My opinion:  They were much more forward than my speakers (Though they are
some of the most laid back around, earning their name 'Vandersweet', really a
speaker meant for tubes, IMHO), and the bass was too boomy for my tastes.  I
did not think that the midrange was all that precise, and I just did not like
them.


Well, that is what I think, and whatever anyone else should feel, they are
wrong. :-) :-)  But again, each one of us has incredibly different tastes and
feelings as to what the perfect sound is, so my best suggestion is to ignore
what most people say, like me, unless of course everyone hates them, and
ignore everyone else and enjoy the music!!!!  And laugh in their faces. :-)


Marc always without a clue Hauser
mhauser@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
DSS, ACNS Networking and lots o' other stuff....


Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: nguyen@aladdin.eng.hou.compaq.com (Nghia Nguyen)
Subject: Loudspeakers
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:46:49 GMT

Greetings,

Can someone help?

- I am going to purchase some loudspeakers... To save some money , I am planning on
  ordering them from a mail-order house. I have found two houses that have the
  stuff I want. Has any of you had any experience (good/bad) dealing with these
  them? They are: USA Media Junction, West Caldwell NJ and Sound City, Kinnelon.
  Would someone recommend some other houses/phones?

- I like the ALTEC-Lansing 300s/500s Carbon Fiber Series because they produce
  pretty tight sound at higher volume for classical listening. Can someone
  recommend equivalent/better speakers. Please specify maker and model?

Thank you very much for your help!

nvn

Keywords:
From: curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: MD Price Info
Date: 26 Sep 92 19:38:11 GMT
Reply-To: curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.audio, hans@smab.se (Hans C Larsson) writes:
>But as long as both MD & DCC are more expensive than
>DAT recorders and CD players, who will buy them ?

Lots of people will.  But I agree, they can't succeed in the
mass market unless they come down in price.  But look at the
starting prices.  When DAT and CD first came out, the players
were over $1000.  The MD is starting out with a price $550. Most
DAT palyers cost more that this even today.

I'd buy a MD player just because it's a neat new technology that I
think will become a standard.  I already have a DAT recorder, multiple
CD players, and multiple cassette players.  I don't have to pick one
format for all my equipment.

The MD has some advantages over both CD and DAT.  If those advantages
are worth something to you, then you will be willing to pay more for
it.  MD shows you the name of the song playing on a display, it's
smaller than all the other formats, it might have a file system data
foramt that allows you to erase and re-record tracks without effecting
other tracks - you can't do this with any DAT recorder.

>And who will buy pre-recorded software that's more
>expensive than CD's ??

The people that bought the MD players.

>And people who don't have anything "digital", will they
>start with a MD/DCC(/DAT) ??? Methinks they will buy a
>CD player !

You can't record with a CD player, and you can't buy pre-record tapes
for DAT.

If they want one digital format that they can use for recording and for
playing pre-recorded music, then they will have to pick MD or DCC.

But I agree, in the short term, it's more likely that someone like that
would buy a CD player and wait for a while to see which recordable
format wins out.  The MD might some day replace the CD, but it won't
happen for many years so it's quite safe to buy a CD player these
days.

Curt Welch
From: kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan ( aka. Wolphgang ))
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Probably a SIMPLE solution...
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 03:01:44 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.22.255.189

In article <27110038@hpspkla.spk.hp.com> borowski@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Don T. Borowski) writes:

>>If I play certain cds' on my JVC cd player through my JVC amplifier with
>>built in digital effects, I get high frequency clicks at certain spots on
>>the disk out of both speakers. I have reasonable heavy speaker wires hooked
>>up to Mission speakers which I assume are in good shape (they are new and
>>don't sound screwed up with all of my other disks).
>>
>>I dont get the click with the headphones, The clicks only sound once the
>>cd had been spinning a while. The offending disks are clean with no visible
>>scratches. The speaker wires are in phase, the clicks cannot be heard in the
>>surround-sound speakers. Turning on and off the effects (reverb, etc) do not
>>effect the clicks. I do not get these clicks on the tuner or on the JVC
>>cassette-deck. The offending discs click a lot once they have spun for some
>>time and my other discs don't even click once.

This may seem like an obnoxious question, but, have you tried the "guilty"
disks on someone elses CD player? If on his clicks, then its the CD. If it is
fine, then it is your CD player. Are you listening to the headphone outputs
of the CD player, or the amps? If you are using the CD players, it may be
the CD players outputs that are the culpret. If not, then it may just be 
that the amplifier amplifies the clicks so you can hear it over the speakers,
but not the headphones. Or, are you overdriving some component ( clipping? )

Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: chiu@gpb-mac.sps.mot.com (Norman Chiu)
Subject: Re: DCC and the built in cassette recorder
Organization: Motorola Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:21:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.143901@trc.amoco.com>, znpt01@trc.amoco.com
(Norman P. Tracy) writes:
> 
> > Why anyone would want to keep their old analog cassettes when they
> > have DCC tapes is truly beyond my comprehension.
> > 
> > -Norman Chiu
> > 
>  Why anyone would want to trash their old analog cassettes and replace
>  old 'albums' with DCC tapes is truly beyond my comprehension.  Isn't
>  backwards compatability with CCs the best (only!?!) thing DCC has going
>  for it?  

I don't exactly follow the above statement.  But what I meant was that
the "backward compatibility" of DCC decks is truly a waste of money.

Think about it:

For those people who own a large collection of CCs (compact/analog
cassettes), mostly likely they own a cassette deck.
Now if they want to "upgrade", meaning they want a better sounding tape/medium,
they buy a DCC deck.  After listening to the obvious superior sound of DCC, 
why would they want to go back and listen to the "old" analog cassette tapes?
Even if they do, they can play those analog tapes on their analog cassette deck,
and thus makes the "analog playback" on the DCC redundant.

On the other hand, for those people who DO NOT own a large collection of analog
tapes, the "analog playback" on the DCC deck is just not needed.

>  -Norman Tracy  (who believes that both DCC & MD are answers to a question
>     the public {NOT audiophiles & equipment junkies like us} is not asking). 

The digital portion of the DCC decks is the answer to digital recording, which
public DOES demand.  (same thing applies to MD) But the "backward compatibility"
of DCC makes no sense whatsoever.

-Norman

Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Very expensive cables
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 23:34:31 GMT

rpt@edscom.demon.co.uk (Richard Tomlinson) writes:
: 
: 1. Later version of the CD player.

Maybe some difference.

: 2. Different acoustics of the room.

Yes - the major factor.

: 3. Better cable.

Pah!

... deleted ... 

: definite difference. I tried both interconnects and decided I preferred the
: Turquoise - this is interesting because it was the cheaper of the two (also
: about 30 pounds).
: 
: Having listened for a while, the sound seams cleaner with instruments being
: clearly positioned (tighter imaging of the soundstage, I think they call it).

Maybe you just liked the color better.  I am surprised that the cables did
not make the music sould cooler and less frantic.

: 1. The only thing that matters is whether you like the sound of your system.

Yes.

: 2. Different cables can sound different.

Make that, you may think the cables change the sound. However, in the final
analysis, that is all that really matters.

: 3. Listen before buying.

If you insist - at least, you will know if the cables have a short or open
in them.

: 4. More expensive cables are not necessarily better, and may even be worse.

No comment.

: 5. Dealers make a lot of money on cables - the mark up on mine was about
:    70%.

Dealers make a lot of money on all their high end mouse-traps.

: 6. The only thing that matters is whether you like the sound of your system.

You covered this under 1.  However, I agree.

Bill
From: hhtra@usho72.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Boston Acoustics via Mail Order
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:12:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Chevron

In article <1992Sep29.202817.13190@oakhill.sps.mot.com>, chiu@gpb-mac.sps.mot.com (Norman Chiu) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep29.155422.23976@bmerh85.bnr.ca>,
|> shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
|> > 
|> > 
|> > I had a quick look at a Stereo Review (Feb '92) that was lying 
|> > around - there were at least 3 places that advertised that they
|> > carried BA.
|> > 
|>    Those places are not authorized dealers of BA speakers.  I am
|> too in the markets of BA speakers but I just couldn't find any
|> mail order place that is an authorized dealer.
|>     Anyone cares to supply a NAME of an authorized mail order place
|> for BA?


 I believe someone posted awhile back that BA said that they had
 NO mail order houses as authorized dealers.