From: henk@frcs.Alt.ZA (Henk Coetzee)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: RESOURCE: Vegetarianism,Animal Rights,Ecology,World Hunger,Rainforests
Date: 15 Apr 92 09:24:29 GMT
Organization: Earthlife Africa (Pretoria Branch)

Thus spake dolin@ccu.umanitoba.ca (jonathan dolin):

>In article <1992Apr6.000242.1433@NCoast.ORG> cmort@ncoast.org (Christopher Morton) writes:
>>As quoted from <9204030726.AA02510@tba.msi.cornell.edu> by harelb@MATH.CORNELL.EDU (Harel Barzilai):
>>
>>> "I have from an early age abjured the use of meat, and the time will
>>> come when men will look upon the murder of animals as they now look
>>> upon the murder of men." -- Leonardo Da Vinci
>>
>>Yeah, but he did have his moments of lucid thought as well.... :)
>>
>>> "To be a vegetarian is to disagree -- to disagree with the course of
>>> things today. Nuclear power, starvation, cruelty -- we must make a
>>> statement against these thigns. Vegetarianism is my statement. And I
>>> think it is a strong one." -- Isaac Bashevis Singer
>>
>>My statement is bulgogi.
>>
>>> "Good Eating -- The Vegetarian Alternative"
>>
>>My alternative is prime rib.
>>
>>> * Animal Rights ("How many animals are killed each year to provide
>>> meat for our dinner table?" ; "What are slaughterhouses like? How do
>>
>>Not enough! :)
>>
>>> prior to being killed in the slaughterhouse? How is livestock
>>> raised?" ; "Where do veal calves come from?"
>>
>>Hint:  a bull and a heiffer....
>>
>>> * Ecology etc ("In what respects is meat eating unecological?" ; "Why
>>> are environmentalists boycotting fast food hamburger chains?")
>>
>>Too much time on their hands.

Actually because of the destruction of ecosystems by the meat industry
(specifally Amazonia and Botswana), and not becameat eating is unecological
per se.


>I offer this article as proof that this newsgroup should go closed-mailing
>list. There are hundreds of newsgroups on the net, and yet, somehow,
>asshole provocateurs like this cannot resist invading and despoiling
>newsgroups not intended for them.

Who are these newsgroups intended for then? Is the idea of a group like
alt.activism to limit discussion on issues to a closed circle of activists
or should we rather be opening our ideas up to criticism. If the best that
the animal eaters can respond with is the sort of crap that you quote, it
serves to reinforce our ideas.

A lot of people are not vegetarians, and see nothing wrong with eating the
odd animal or two, wiping out a species here or there, destrying Amazonia
and Botswana, and if they want to disagree with what the vegetarians have to
say then fine let them. If their postings are not very intelligent, it shows
you something (I'm not sure what.)

Henk


>jd.
>dolin@ccu.umanitoba.ca
 
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