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From: mueller@cage.eng.mcmaster.ca (Edna Mueller)
Subject: Star Trek heaven
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:13:38 GMT

 bbarber@sierra.com writes:

>Here in Dallas, aka Star Trek Heaven, we get 1 TOS and 12 TNG episodes per 
>week. This is clearly the most favorable Star Trek viewing location that 
>I have ever lived.

Ha!  Here in Toronto we get Star Trek even more!

12 TNG episodes and at least 3 TOS episodes.

Mon.     2 TNG
Tues.    2 TNG
Wed.     2 TNG
Thrus.   2 TNG
Fri.     3 TNG
Sat.	 1 TNG   +   3 TOS
Sun.	 0  :-(

I think that there even may some TOS episodes late at night
during the week, I can't remember.

Anyway, who has time to watch all of these?
At least we can pick and choose which one to watch.

Does anyone get more than this?

				Schmeby
					    mueller@cage.eng.mcmaster.ca
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From: mlhb@mammoth.dr.att.com (Sky Warrior)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.tech
Subject: Re: Other 24th Century TV Shows
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:08:34 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.172443.24770@umbc3.umbc.edu>, cs106b16@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs106b16) writes:
|> There is a 24th century TV series I just discovered called 'Logan's Run'.
|> There seems to be a minor similarity here and there between itself and Star
|> Trek and other SF as well. For instance, they have a hand weapon that shoots a
|> blue beam and can be set for stun, blast, or kill...(sound familiar). I saw an
|> episode where there were a group of people who used a machine to split
|> themselves apart into good and evil sections (remember the ST:TOS episode) and
|> it even looked a little like a transporter. There was another episode where
|> a different group of people actually had some sort of transporter technology.
|> Also they have an android. It was never mentioned if he is positronic or not,
|> but I would be willing to bet that he follows the 3 laws! In one episode he
|> indirectly killed a human to save 3 others and was rambling on about having
|> violated the 1st law...Proof enough for me. Does anyone else know more about
|> this show than I do? I just discovered it last week on a cable channel and
|> don't know very much about it.

Boy, do I feel ancient when someone who has interest in SF doesn't know about
Logan's Run.  The TV series does not do the movie justice and (I assume) the
movie does not do the book justice (Didn't read the book).

What *really* makes me feel old is when I found out some teenagers haven't seen
Star Wars.  (Ah, but that is another story...)

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From: mikeh@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (michael p.herlihy)
Subject: Re: ZZZZZZZZ
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:30:33 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.165728.22948@csi.jpl.nasa.gov> brian_vickers@isd.jpl.nasa.gov writes:
>In article <15673@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> darsie@eecs.ucdavis.edu (Richard Darsie)
>writes:
>>Yawn. This group sure is boring during the off-season!
>>Can't wait for fall and more Tim Lynch reviews!
>>
>>Richard
>>
>I hear that. No real good rumors for next season or anything!
>
>I've even stopped watching the STTNG reruns and began watching "Raven" on CBS.
>
>I must be losing it.
>
>-- Brian
>brian_vickers@isd.jpl.nasa.gov


Well, I shouldn't reveal this but I have a friend that slipped me the
plot for the James Dohan episode next season. It goes like:

	A race of aliens dominated by the female of the species
	capture Scotty while he is on shore leave after ST:TUC.

	They transport him to the future to be the controller for
	their environmental control system. They have to remove
	his brain and place his body in stasis.

	Meanwhile, back on 1701-D a group of free-love
	adolecsents (led by Wesley) take ove the ship.
	They are searching for the mythical planet called
	"Eden" where the human race orginated from.

	Of course, this is the same planet where Scotty is
	being held captive.  They find Scotty and restore
	him.

	They then time warp back to return him to the proper
	time and collide with the Klingon Bird of Prey
	from ST:TVH.  Of course, when the duplicate
	Scotties meet the universe as we know folds
	upon itself in a Technicolor feat of special
	effects.


	Then Scotty wakes up


	

-- 

"I am Locutus, of Borg.  Your life, as it has been, is over. From this
  time forward, you will service...*us*." "The Best Of Both Worlds"
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From: ph3@unixg.ubc.ca (Michael Hamilton (phys 306))
Subject: Re: TV FAQ Site
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:23:25 GMT

In <1992Jul29.181214.17240@u.washington.edu> peterl@carson.u.washington.edu (Peter Loron) writes:

>Could someone please email me the name of the anonymous FTP site that has
>the FAQ files for various TV shows? Thanks.

This question should be in the FAQ.
From: dfrancis@tronsbox.xei.com (Dennis Heffernan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Cause & Effect:  2 questions (*SPOILERS for*)
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:42:52 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: Xanadu Enterprises Inc.

In article <27JUL199207344346@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov> smneyln@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Michael Neylon) writes:
|besides, this is a FAMILY show.  Do you think that they would make
|it sound like the entire crew was horny? ;)

	Remember "The Naked Now"? ;-)

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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: president of federati
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:05:18 EST
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

>Did anyone notice that the President of the Federation in
>STVI (the dude with the long white beard) looked a LOT like
>one of people in the control room in STIV?

>Any idea what race he might be?

You are correct in this assumption and it was meant this way.  They are
not, however the same characters or actors.  I read this before on the
net but I BELIEVE they are endosians.  I could be wrong, however...


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From: tattersall_derek@macmail1.rtsg.mot.com
Subject: Re: Poker
Organization: CSG Group
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:17:08 GMT

In article <4590@daily-planet.concordia.ca> gfergus@alcor.concordia.ca ( Glenn
Ferguson) writes:
>In article <Brsu73.9zG@gtsi.com> rich@gtsi.com (Richard Lawrence) writes:
>>In article <BrqpnG.88@brunel.ac.uk> Abdul.Khaliq@brunel.ac.uk (Abdul Q M
Khaliq) writes:
>>>Geordi undoubtedly has the ability to see everyone's cards, the
>>>question is can he stop himself? In the 1st season story, Heart of Glory,
>>
>>This was all explained in the episode where Worf hurt his spine (title 
>>unremembered because I don't memorize ones I hate). Geordi commented to
>>Worf that Troi was bluffing, and that he shouldn't use infrared transparent
>>cards. He also pointed out that he didn't look until after the hand was
>>over (for him, at least).
>
>        Okay, this has been bothering me since I saw that episode.  Geordi
>mentions that they shouldn't use "infrared transparent cards" because he can
>read them with his visor.  Now correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't infrared
>refer to infrared radation, which Websters defines as "perceived as heat and
>is produced by or causes changes in the vibrational and translational motions
>of atoms and molecules".  In other words, it responds to heat...different heat
>levels will produce different colour patterns on the cards. So is Geordi
saying
>that the clubs on a 2 of clubs card are hotter than the rest of the card, thus
 
>allowing him to read it?  One would think that the cards would be of uniform
>heat, except in the places where they were last in contact with a person's
>hands (heat from the fingers).  I don't see how this would give Geordi any
>better insight into what cards his opponents are holding.            
>        Anyone else have any ideas on this line?
>
>Glenn Ferguson
>
>  
>>
>>-- 
>>Rich Lawrence - "Stinger" - DoD#9630 '92 Seca II - Buckaroo Banzai lives!
>>Sysop/Hallucination: Full UseNet,Fido,Relay, 2GB+ IBM/Amiga  1-703-425-5824
>>    rich@halluc.com   rich@gtsi.com   CI$:71101,2272   Fido:1:109/345
>> HEY YOU! Are you going to the East Coast DoD thing or not? Read rec.moto!
>

When I was in the military, I got a chance to look at the FLIR (Forward Looking
InfraRed) device installed on one of our helicopters. This airplane was parked
inside a hanger. Looking through the hanger wall I could read the lettering on
a sign (black letters on a white background) on the ramp outside the hanger. I
thought it was really cool to be able to see through a solid wall.

I see no problem with Geordi being able to see the lettering/pips on the other
side of a playing card using IR.
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From: smneyln@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Michael Neylon)
Subject: Re: Cause & Effect:  2 questions (*SPOILERS for*)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: rec.arts.startrek.current
Date: 27 Jul 1992 07:34 EST  

This should have been cntl-Led, so...

In article <SMARGARI.92Jul25230139@emmy.nmsu.edu>, smargari@nmsu.edu (Susan Margarit) writes...
>We just saw the rerun of Cause and Effect tonight and wanted to ask 2
>questions of fellow net trek readers:
> 
>My question:  Did the enterprise crew die each time they went through
>the loop, and if so, how would you explain how they were "resurrected"?
> 
Due to the time loop that they were stuck in, the ship's matter/energy
was destroyed at the end of the loop, but was `recreated` at the start.
If you saw the viewscreen when Geordi explained the effect, you saw
a 'blip' move across the screen, get to the end of the loop, then blur
back to its starting pt.  Imagine that as the movement of the Big-E.

>My husbands question:  How come on a ship of over 1000 persons, were
>there only 5 couples "getting it on" (so to speak)? :)  :)  :)

Considering that the meeting before the encounter was at 7AM, only
1/3 of the crew would be up and about (accounting for ~350 people),
and the other 2/3 doing domestic stuff (cooking, sleeping, etc.)
I would suspect most would be sleeping, so 5 couples sounds very
resonable...

besides, this is a FAMILY show.  Do you think that they would make
it sound like the entire crew was horny? ;)


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From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Alas, poor Worf! I knew him, Horatio.
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:03:13 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Jul27.184500.12557@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, jeffery@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (JEFFERY ERIC ROBERT) writes:

> Don't forget the time when he beat up 2 androgenous Genai on "The Outcast"!

Worf: "Beater-upper of pod-inseminating creatures".

Some Mighty Klingon.

Terry
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From: hinson@maxwell.physics.purdue.edu (Jason W. Hinson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.tech
Subject: Re: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:09:53 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: Purdue University Physics Department

In article <1992Jul25.172053.24591@umbc3.umbc.edu> cs106b16@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs10
6b16) writes:
:I just rewatched STVI:TUC on home video and was able to analyze certain things
:a little better in my home that I was unable to do at the theater. Maybe some
:of you can answer them:
:
...Stuff deleted
:
:3) When the Klingons were under 0 g and were shoot they were thrown backwards.
:Why should this be? A phaser beam has no mass, thus no momentum! By the law of
:momentum they should have stayed exactly where they were 0 g or not.

 
Actually, even particles with no mass have momentum (p) which is related
to their energy (E): p = E/c.  But you'd have to have VERY energetic particles
to have much of an effect (how powerful were those weapons?).
 
-Jay
From: jfinn@ll.mit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: MORE STARTREK ACTOR ROLES
Date: 23 Jul 92 11:29:50 GMT
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory

In article <1992Jul22.211019.57451@cc.usu.edu> sl6wv@cc.usu.edu writes:
>In article <92197.204531SXT115@psuvm.psu.edu>, SXT115@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>> 
>>    Although this actor is TOS, not STTNG, I thought it would be an interesting
>> addition:
>> 
>>   George Takei:  Voice of the Japanese waiter during the Simpson's episode
>>                  where Homer eats the supposedly poisoned puffer fish.
>		 
>It wouldn't surprise me.  The Simpson's have had quite a few famous people show
>up.
>
>BTW, I just saw a rerun of John Wayne's "The Green Beret"  I was wondering if
>that was George Takei portraying a South Vietnamese general standing beside
>"The Duke"?

Yes it was.  I remember reading that TOS epsiode 'The Gamesters of Triskellion'
was filmed when 'The Green Berets' was being done.  George Takei was supposed
to play the in 'Gamesters' , but since he was unavailable, Walter Koenig
(Chekov) ended up playing his part.

Joe
jfinn@ll.mit.edu

>> 
>> 
>>   Enjoy the thought of it!!!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   Shannon
>
>		Rob "Woodchip" Horning
From: keith@csc.liv.ac.uk (Keith Halewood)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Klingon Home Planet
Date: 22 Jul 92 11:41:52 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University

In article <1992Jul21.120907.4286@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>, msears@mta.ca writes:
> Ever since i can remeber the show starting i thought it was called Kitimar or
> Kittimar...Just my thoughts!
> 
> -Mary

Kittomer is just the Klingon outpost where Worf was discovered.
Depending on whose books you read, the Klingon home planet is called
Klinzai (John M Ford). Although Rodenberry insisted that it be called
Klingon! yuck!

Keith
From: ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: New TNG Characters
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:56:48 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <14753@umd5.umd.edu> jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...) writes:

*>>I will stop watching this show if Ensign Ro becomes a regular
*>>character on this show.

>I'll bite.  Why?

Maybe because he hates her? :-)

>But that does bring up an interesting possibility for a story... after
>her meteoric rise in Starfleet following her stellar handling of the
>rebuilding of the Federation fleet after the Borg attack (after all,
>everything seemed back to normal three episodes later), CAPTAIN April
>Shelby is transferred to the Enterprise.  Riker gets stiffed once again
>for the captain's chair and finds himself as first officer to the woman
>he'd viewed as a cold-blooded b*tch.  It wouldn't last long, but it
>would certainly do a lot in adding conflict and character to the show... :-)

No, it wouldn't last long.  After two episodes, Riker would put to good
use the knowledge he had gained on board the Klingon warship in "A
Matter of Honor", and determine that she was no longer fit for command,
kill her, and take over as Captain William T. Riker of the USS Enterprise.

:-)


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From: byrn@quads.uchicago.edu (Zelda Pinwheel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: More STTNG Actor Roles
Summary: Patrick Stewart Sightings
Date: 23 Jul 92 04:53:30 GMT
Reply-To: byrn@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations


I don't know if anyone has mentioned these yet, they're pretty obscure.

During the period when Masterpiece Theatre was re-running _I, Claudius_
I couldn't turn on PBS without seeing Patrick Stewart.  First, of course,
there was his role as Sejanus in _I, Claudius_.  Then I found an old BBC
Program (c. 1976) called "Playing Shakespeare", in which the director of 
the RSC plays out certain scenes in different ways to illustrate the different 
ways you could interpret the text.  Actually, the director didn't play out any
scenes.  He brought along a small crew from the RSC, and one of them was 
Stewart.  He was in a fine episode, acutally, where he and another actor tried
out different performances of Shylock from _Merchant of Venice_.

Along with these two series, I caught a couple of specials with him in them,
the most memorable of which was a 40-minute version of _Oedipus Rex_.  He played
Oedipus in a more modern translation from the ancient Greek (Oedipus: "don't
gimme that!").  It made me think:

classically trained British actor = he'll do what he's told

He did better than most of the other parts in a bad situation, though.  I think
I also saw him in one of those "Shakespeare in an hour" BBC/PBS productions,
although I can't remember which one.

-Zelda


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From: Laura_Halliday@mindlink.bc.ca (Laura Halliday)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Newthread: TNG Fashion
Date: 25 Jul 92 04:31:01 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Hmmm...I thought people knew that the reason for the decidedly non-trendy
outfits was so that the show wouldn't look hopelessly dated in future
syndication. Look at ST:TOS, and how '60s it looks. In most shows, you can
identify within a few months when it was shot if you look carefully at what
folks (especially women) are wearing.

I like Picard's off-duty shirt/blouse (e.g. _Family_, _Captain's Holiday_).
Looks like something I might wear, when I don't look like I've raided Peg
Bundy's closet. ;-)

I also like Beverly's blue sweater - the off-the-shoulder one she wears
off-duty (e.g. _The Nth Degree_). And Deanna's royal blue party dress (e.g.
_The Price_).

As for the aliens all wearing the same thing, either they don't share the human
concept of individuality, they use different markers to differentiate each
other (penguins all look alike to us...), or they see a different wavelength
range than we do and if we looked at them in ultraviolet or near infrared, we'd
see floral prints and polka dots...

...laura
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From: raistlin@wixer.cactus.org (Eli Boaz)
Subject: Re: O'Briens rank REALLY solved!!!!!!
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 04:34:19 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.092310.42001@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> kuvamp@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>OK, Ok this will finally end the "O'Brien's Rank" flame war once and for all:
>
>You've heard of a Major General?  You've heard of a Lt. Colonel?
>
>Well, O'Brien is a.........(drumroll)....
>
>		CHIEF PETTY LEUTENANT!
>
>There! that oughtta solve it!
>

No, I still prefer Chief Lieutenant Officer. =) =) =)

>			-----------------Gareth-Michael Skarka
>					(with apologies to M*A*S*H, from which
>					I swiped the joke.)
>						:-)=

(I just couldn't resist! [evil laugh])

Eli

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From: jeffery@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (JEFFERY ERIC ROBERT)
Subject: ST: TNG and ST:DSN Gifs  
Summary: Looking for Gifs  
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 07:42:26 GMT

I am looking for ST:TNG and ST:DSN Gifs.  Actually I can deal in any
regular DOS or Windows format (.BMP, .TIF, .RLE, etc.).  I read 
somewhere that they were on alt.binaries.pictures.misc., but at the
time that I found then I didn't understand UUDECODE so I lost them.
Does anyone have any they could ship over or know of any anonymous
ftp sites that I could log in to.  Let me know please...



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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:18:05 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.104156.25308@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> wct@po.CWRU.Edu (William C. Thompson) writes:
>
>In a previous article, dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann) says:
>
>>>I wouldn't go so far as to assume that Doyle was an ancestor of Spock.
>>
>>Would you rather have Spock an ancestor of Sherlock Holmes?
>
>>>It seems
>>>much more reasonable to pass it off as a universal truth.  Why should
>>>it be so surprising that two seperate people said the same thing?
>>
>>Someone else independantly coming up with the same truth is eminantly
>>reasonable; it happens quite frequently.  But with virtually the same
>>wording as Doyle/Holmes used?  I don't think so.

I really don't know what all the fuss is about.  I mean, after all,
there's no mystery to it at all.  Clearly Sherlock Holmes is a fictional
character and Spock (as we all know) is not.  Spock's merely quoting
from a book he once read.


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