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From: kennedy@cs.swarthmore.edu (Sean Kennedy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Luke's lightsaber
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:21:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: cc.7SWRB4XL
Organization: Swarthmore College

albusacc@eos.ncsu.edu (ALEXANDRIA LIN BUSACCA) writes:


>I was watching ROTJ & noticed that during the scene at the Rancor pit
>when Luke uses his lightsaber to fend off his attackers all the
>lightsaber does is either knock then over or push them out of the way.
>In ESB when Luke and Vader are dueling Vader cuts off Luke's hand.  Is
>there some special reason why the lightsaber does not do any damage to
>any other part of the body except the hands, also in ROTJ when Vader &
>Luke duel for the second time Luke slices off Vader's hand.
>(Like father like son ;}  )

>Any suggestions?...

	Because it would be extremely disgusting to vividly show people
getting cut in half and blood going everywhere!



			--Sean Kennedy
			  kennedy@cs.swarthmore.edu
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Sounds at wpi.wpi.edu
Date: 7 Oct 92 09:30:43
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
Distribution: usa
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In-reply-to: cshamis@desire.wright.edu's message of 6 Oct 92 19:14:18 EST

>>>>> On 6 Oct 92 19:14:18 EST, cshamis@desire.wright.edu said:


> If .voc is going to be the standard, then someone point me to a
> program for Hank.

cshamis> What in the heck is a .VOC file?  Ive never heard of that
cshamis> standard?

cshamis> I dont really care to much cuz my Amiga can read just about
cshamis> anything.  :) But for the IBMers out there....

Well if you read the index file you would know they were for
Soundblaster. 
--
 Scott Streeter                             Keeper of the Star Wars Archive
 ss@wpi.wpi.edu                             wpi.wpi.edu        130.215.24.1
From: v076rtlz@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Howard M. Green)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Letterbox (was Re:Star Wars on Videocassette)
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:27:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Thanx for the info.  Of course, silly me, I've had the trilogy since its
release in the gift box two or three years ago.  I would like to see more
movies available letterboxed for VHS.  For some reason, letterboxed
versions are released for most theatrical films on LaserDisc, so for any
film that is worth seeing in its original widescreen ratio, owners of LaserDisc
players have that choice.  However, Vcr owners are only offered the pan-scan
versions for some reason.  Why is this?  A lot has been said about how
superior LaserDisc are in picture and sound quality.  But lets face it, 
cassette format is so much more accessable, for Vcrs are in so many more
homes.  In fact, except for one of my universities media libraries,
No one I know has a LaserDisc player.  Laser format is an aristocratic media.
I've stood around watching store display "home theatre" systems, but barring
some miracle, I don't think I'll get to own one in this decade!  So why 
shouldn't Letterboxed formats be available to the masses.

Howard Green

	"What God Wants, God Gets"
				-Roger Waters
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: gfm@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (George Francis McBay)
Subject: Re: Bugs on Broadway
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 11:48:09 GMT

In article <1at1akINN297@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein) writes:
>He did.  Remember the Han Solo and Lando Calrissian books?

	Those books were a bit different than the current Zahn novels.  They
dealt with things extranous to the battle between the Alliance and the Empire.

>I think that you're going to ahve to wait until 1995, when the 12 books
>they have just liscensed have all come out.  That will keep new hype
>coming, and they won't have to compete with themselves by bringing out
>the movie and books at the same time.

	I can't imagine them riding the hype that long without some film to
show for it.  Even if they were able, it might make the new films hyped beyond
their ability to deliver (I'm sure they will be great, but 5+ years of hype
for 3 films is a bit much)  The books will not be competing with the movies,
most Star Wars fans will run out and buy all the books as well as see all the
movies about 50 times each. :) People who are anal-retentive about Canon might
just skip the books, but they'd skip them anyways -- no competetion.
From: albusacc@eos.ncsu.edu (ALEXANDRIA LIN BUSACCA)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Luke's lightsaber
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:42:28 GMT
Reply-To: albusacc@eos.ncsu.edu (ALEXANDRIA LIN BUSACCA)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Originator: albusacc@c00504-119rd.eos.ncsu.edu


I was watching ROTJ & noticed that during the scene at the Rancor pit
when Luke uses his lightsaber to fend off his attackers all the
lightsaber does is either knock then over or push them out of the way.
In ESB when Luke and Vader are dueling Vader cuts off Luke's hand.  Is
there some special reason why the lightsaber does not do any damage to
any other part of the body except the hands, also in ROTJ when Vader &
Luke duel for the second time Luke slices off Vader's hand.
(Like father like son ;}  )

Any suggestions?...

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From: cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRIS MICH GEORGOULIAS)
Subject: re:Heeeeere's Yak-Face
Originator: cmgeorg@c00581-1403br.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRIS MICH GEORGOULIAS)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 20:05:31 GMT


In article <71422@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN, AVRON 
  P) writes:
|>
|>Would someone please post just who the heck Yak-Face is, and what point in what
|>movie (I assume Jedi) he appeared?  I'm going out on a limb, and guess that he
|>appeared for all of three seconds, never uttered a sound, and was not listed in 
|>the credits.  So in other words, I'm guessing he is just like most of the other
|>figures that came out.  Also, why was the figure not released in the USA?

Three seconds would have been enough time to let everyone see something like....
a tennis shoe in space........8-)   Actually it's more like 2 different 1 second 
slots (at least as far as I can remember.)

Seriously though, You sorta have to know what Yak Face looks like before you can
look for him.  Of course he resembles a Yak, but for those of us who don't 
really know what a Yak's face looks like, a camel will do fine.  Yes, to me he
greatly resembles a camel.  The one part I remember offhand is lots of Jabba's
aliens are running through a doorway (up steps if I correctly recall).  This
scene takes place either in Jabba's palace or in Jabba's Sail Barge.  Anyway,
Yak Face can be seen toward the middle of the group on the right side of the
passageway.  He is probably the tallest one of them.  it looks as if the actor 
was having a hard time keeping the head on while moving. Keep in mind that this
goes by extremely fast so pay attention or utilize that slo-mo.  Alas, you only 
really see his back in this scene but it should help you place him when you get 
those scanning shots of the barge and/or the palace.

Why wasn't he released in the US?  Who can tell. Maybe Kenner thought it would
be a good joke watching us collectors pay big bucks for him. 8-)

-Chris
   
 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++                                                                           
 +      Chris Georgoulias                                                    +
 + North Carolina State University                                           +
 +     cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu                                                  +
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 +                                                                           +
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 +  ...I just don't care!"                                                   +
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From: slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: ROTJ-Lynch, ROTJ-Soap Opera
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:31:51 GMT
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada

> ROTJ directed by Lynch could have been one of the best movies ever. 
                        ^^^^^
 
I agree -- but on the other hand, it could have been 
terrible.  It depends in which direction he chose to take the 
picture.  Unfortunately, Lynch is a director who appeals to 
relativelyfew -- he might've had to "commercialize" his style 
too much.  Perhaps his "artistic freedom" was limited so he 
chose not to take the job.  
 
However, I'd love to see how he might hav done Jabba's palace -- I bet 

it would have been chilling!
 
> I DID like ROTJ, but I would mch rather watch SW  and TESB any
> day.  They were less soap-opera-ish. 
> As for any new movies, what would people think of Lawrence Kasdan 
> o come back to the SW troupe?   
 
You don't want a "soap-opera" but you want Lawrence Kasdan 
back?  Make up your mind.
 
Stephen Legge
SLEGGE@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.announce
From: lile@netcom.com (Lile Elam)
Subject: Douglas Adams In Palo Alto, CA
Keywords: New book
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 03:01:51 GMT

Douglas Adams will be in Palo Alto, California at Printer's Inc.
Bookstore on Oct. 31 at 8pm to discuss his new book "Mostly Harmless".
It is the fith book in the Hitchikers Guide Trilogy. :)

This Printers Inc is on California Street just south of Stanford
University.

The new book is about Arthor Dents' daughter, Random and her 
adventures while in search for the planet earth.

enjoy,

-lile
-- 

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lile@netcom.com     |		
Un*x Admin / Artist |			 Buckaroo Banzai
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From: higgins@fnalo.fnal.gov (Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey)
Subject: Re: Chicago Area Club!       
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 00:09:14 GMT

In article <gate.DokisB1w165w@infopls.chi.il.us>, gpatton@infopls.chi.il.us (Gavin Patton) writes:
> The Galactic League is a shared-universe writers' club and publishing
> group located in the Chicago area.  [...]
> The League has run two  Chicago area masquerade conventions:
> Starbase Nova and Duckon I, 

Ahem.  Didn't you get just a *little* help from the DuPage area fans,
the group that conceived, bankrolled, and executed Duckon I?

> This organization is growing, and is the place to be when things start
> happening.  Look out, Universe!  The GALACTIC LEAGUE is coming!

Fortunately, I know where to find some well-shielded tunnels in which
to hide.

     O~~*           /_) ' / /   /_/ '  ,   ,  ' ,_  _           \|/
   - ~ -~~~~~~~~~~~/_) / / /   / / / (_) (_) / / / _\~~~~~~~~~~~zap!
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   -   -       Internet:  HIGGINS@FNAL.FNAL.GOV
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom,alt.fandom.cons,mi.misc
From: childers@ais.org (Chad Childers)
Subject: ConClave @! Party
Followup-To: mi.misc
Keywords: Detroit
Reply-To: Chad Childers <chad@deep.mi.org>
Organization: Deep Thought
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:08:13 GMT

Late-breaking news: a net party hosted by Paul Haas, with Mike Mattingly and
myself acting as Virtual SMOFs, will be taking place Friday night at Conclave,
check the computer room for fliers.

ConClave is October 16-18 at the Southfield (Michigan) Days Hotel.

--Chad
From: cantor@star.enet.dec.com (Dave Cantor)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
Subject: Re: Fan E-Mail Database
Date: 9 Oct 92 02:46:11 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation



In article <12320@jjmhome.UUCP>, lmann@jjmhome.UUCP (Laurie Mann) writes...
>Fan E-Mail Database
> 
>This fannish database is being compiled by John Lorentz.  Please send
>additions, corrections or deletions to 74007.3342@compuserve.com.  I
>will repost it here as needed.  If someone wants to include this at an
>anonymous FTP site, please do so.
> 
>(Note from Laurie---in the process of transferring this data between
>GEnie and USENET, several addresses got munged.  If you know that you
>sent your address to John, and you don't see it here, it will appear in
>a future edition so you don't need to resend it unless it has changed.)
> 
>Name..................... CompuServe Internet/Usenet............................ GEnie....... System Name...... Other #.........
> 
[ omitting everyone's address but mine.  Dave C.]
>Dave Cantor                          cantor@*.enet.dec.com
>                                     cantor@star.enet.dec.com
[...]
>(Version posted to USENET on October 8, 1992)

Only the address with the 'star' written out is correct.  I wonder
how the first one got in there.  I doubt very much that it would
work by sending my mail to _every_ system in  .enet.dec.com !
Probably someone heard me say "star dot enet dot dec dot com" and
interpreted 'star' as the symbol '*'.  That's often pronounced 'star'.
Anyway, the correct information is

Dave Cantor             72760,1737   cantor@star.enet.dec.com

-- --
 Dave C.                          cantor@star.enet.dec.com
 Digital Equipment Corp., Nashua, NH  03062, USA
  The views expressed herein are my own, except where attributed to 
  someone else.  They are neither the opinion of, nor the responsibility 
  of, Digital Equipment Corporation.

copy to John Lorentz, of course
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From: mtpins@icaen.uiowa.edu (Michael T Pins)
Subject: Re: ICon Memories
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 04:35:18 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

cc697@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Oppen) writes:


>Well, another ICon (Iowa Science Fiction Convention; don't be fooled by or
>accept cheap imitations, this con's in its seventeenth year) has come and
>gone.  My impressions:

>Misty Lackey could have made herself more available to con-members, as in
>by just circulating around the con.  Look, I've found myself in
>conversation with L. Sprague de Camp and his wife just wandering around a
>con, and they are (IMHO) rather bigger names in the field than Misty is. 
>If she didn't feel up to it, OK, but it was kind of annoying.  The one time
>I did see her wandering about, she was conducting some sort of Dark Horde
>Reunion with her friends from SCA.  All well and good, but why couldn't she
>have tried to be more available to _all_ con members?  If she wanted to get
>together with her Horde siblings, she could probably easily swing a trip to
>Pennsic, if there aren't Hordesmen in OK.

Misty was being kept rather busy by the Con itself.
The fact that Larry Dixon wasn't at the art auction to do the Rapture Center
stuff is that that was the only chance they had to go eat dinner.
This year may have been a bit shy on programming, but Misty and Larry were
involved in most of what there was.
I ran into them a number of times over the weekend on the concourse.
Sunday they spent the better part of the day sitting around and chatting.
Larry, Rex Bryant, and I were talking about cars of all things at one point.

>The huxters and art were nice, but nothing new.  I think I need to get to
>some cons out of my usual area (Iowa, Omaha, and MiniCon) to see some new
>huxters and artists.

Huxters tend to attend cons in about the same area as most people.  :-)

>The crowd attending was pretty good people, I thought.  At least the
>invasion of the fraternity dweebs from hell was averted.  Apparently they
>had a big problem with that one year at MiniCon, which is why the
>at-the-door price has gone up so very high.

>All in all, a routine, rather nice ICon.

The one complaint most people had about this year was the lack of space.
We're trying to figure out a better solotion for next year.
But what it comes down to is "Did most people have a good time?"
The answer seems to be "Yes".  :-)

-- 
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From: rcampb@cac.washington.edu (Russ Campbell )
Subject: Demicon IV - anyone been to one of these?
Organization: UW Computing
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:12:19 GMT

I got a flyer in the mail yesterday for Demicon IV and am toying with the
idea of mailing in my artwork for the artshow.  If anyone out there has
been to one of the previous Demicons please contact me and let me know
what you thought of it.

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|  Russell  D.  Campbell        : No new snappy quote or saying.   |
|  rcampb@u.washington.edu      : I'm just tired of the old one.   |
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From: chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
Subject: Re: O.S. Card's next book?
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:54:56 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

mforbes@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (I am a Jelly Doughnut) writes:

>Does anyone know when the newest Orson Scott Card book is coming out?
>I had heard that two different books are coming out, one is a the 1st
>book in a new series (or a single, not sure) and the other is the
>2nd book in the Memory of Earth series....

I think Lost Boys is the single book you're thinking about, and it's out.
I recently got his next Tor book in galley form, and that one is the second
book in the Memory Series, so it'll be out late this year in hardcover (I
think December, but it's not handy, which is why I'm not giving you the
title, either). I can't tell you if it's any good because I haven't been
reading that series.


-- 
Chuq "IMHO" Von Rospach, ESD Support & Training (DAL/AUX) =+= Member, SFWA
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From: krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us (D. 'krikket' Krick)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
Subject: @! Party at WindyCon
Date: 11 Oct 92 12:01:25 GMT
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

Is there any interest in having an @! party at WindyCon?  (Chicago area
Convention at the Woodfield Hyatt Nov. 6-8)

If so, I'm willing to volunteer a room, but I want to have some idea in advance
if it'll be worth by time and trouble to hold...

Either post or Email a responce, if this interests you.  If there is enough
interest, I'll host an @! party!

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From: multics@acm.acm.rpi.edu (Multics)
Subject: Has Arisia sent out hotel information yet?
Organization: The Voice of Fate
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 01:05:41 GMT

subject says it all, though I'd also like to know the convention dates:)

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From: cantor@star.enet.dec.com (Dave Cantor)
Subject: Re: Has Arisia sent out hotel information yet?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:55:44 GMT



In article <5kyzk!-@rpi.edu>, multics@acm.acm.rpi.edu (Multics) writes...
>subject says it all, though I'd also like to know the convention dates:)
> 

January 15, 16, 17, 1993 at the Boston Park Plaza Hotel and Towers.
$72 single/double, $82 triple.

GOH          Ellen Kushner
Artist GOHs  Charles Lang and Wendy Snow-Lang

Membership
adults  $30 until Dec. 1, 1992, $40 thereafter
children $15

Banquet $20, choice of chicken, fish, and pasta.

Send name, address, and the name you would like to have appear on the badge,
along with your payment by check or Visa or MasterCard to

ARISIA, Incorporated
Suite 322
1 Kendall Square
Cambridge, MA  02139

If paying by Visa or MasterCard, include the card number, expiration date,
and your name exactly as it appears on the card.

__________

ARISIA is a registered Service Mark of ARISIA, Incorporated.


-- --
 Dave C.                          cantor@star.enet.dec.com
 Digital Equipment Corp., Nashua, NH  03062, USA
  The views expressed herein are my own, except where attributed to 
  someone else.  They are neither the opinion of, nor the responsibility 
  of, Digital Equipment Corporation.
From: gdr11@phx.cam.ac.uk (G.D. Rees)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
Subject: "Unicon 93" in Bristol: True or False?
Keywords: unicon
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:42:45 GMT
Reply-To: gdr11@phx.cam.ac.uk (G.D. Rees)
Distribution: uk
Organization: U of Cambridge, England

Word has reached me that the sf group at Bristol University are planning
a convention that will be called "Unicon 93", to be held sometime in
July of that year.  This suggests that the organisers are unaware of the
sequence of student-run conventions also called "Unicons" that operate
on a year-by-year bidding process and have been run in the UK since
1980, and do not know that the 1993 Unicon will be "Lunicon", at Leeds
University.  Does anyone at Bristol read the net?

Gareth Rees <gdr11@phx.cam.ac.uk>
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From: buggy@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Jeff C. Green)
Subject: Orycon
Keywords: Orycon, Oregon Sci Fi Convention
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.
Distribution: oregon
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 04:47:40 GMT

Hi there!  Could someone please tell me any info for the upcoming Orycon?
Like - dates, guests, prices, etc...

I already know where it's to be held, I just don't remember the rest...

Thanks
Jeff
-- 
Jeff C. Green              "It is a lot easier to kill one vampire than ten."
buggy@qiclab.scn.rain.com    "Does the word 'duhh' mean anything to you?"
                                      - Buffy the Vampire Slayer
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From: justin@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Justin du Coeur MKA Mark Waks)
Subject: Contact for BSTA?
Organization: Many, Sundry, and Odd
Distribution: ne
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:00:13 GMT

Quick question: can anyone give me contact information for the Boston
Star Trek Association? I have a friend who wants to get into Trekdom
(having outgrown CreationCon and its ilk), and I promised to try and
put him in touch.

Probably best to send me email directly, so we don't get a zillion
copies of the answer...

				-- Justin du Coeur
				   justin@inmet.camb.inmet.com

Random Quote du Jour:

"Staying with you requires a degree of stupidity of which I no longer 
 feel capable."
"Now you're just being modest."
		-- Avon & Blake