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From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Price Fixing
Date: 2 Sep 92 04:52:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Sep1.215257.1446
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


 > In the local K-Mart there was a display set up where they wanted people
 > to sign a petition in support of a bill in Congress that would make
 > this price fixing illegal.

Yes, that has come up before and probably will again.  I agree that anyone
should be allowed to offer products and services at any price they consider
fair.  That's *supposed* to be one of the fundamental components of a free
market.


 > If anybody's interested I'll see if I can't find the bill number.

Yes, please do.


 > I'm sure there is a more appropriate newsgroup for such discussion...

Probably is but not everyone has access to ALL of the newsgroups.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc

Hello,

I am trying to set up my system to be able to boot up under WB2.04, WB1.3 
and WB1.2 in either 68000 or 68030 mode (I own an A2500).  My intention
is to be able to use some of the old games I have which only work on the
older O.S.'s and/or only with a 68000 CPU.  I have WB2.04 installed and
it's working fine.

Currently using SetCPU I am able to boot off of a floppy into WB1.3
and WB1.2 on the 68030 but I can't boot into 1.3/1.2 using the 68000 (SetCPU
won't perform a "kickrom" when using the 68000).

I would also like to move KICKSTART 1.3/1.2 onto my hard drive as files since
SetCPU seems capable of being able to boot the system this way.

If you have any ideas or suggestions I would appreciate them.

Thanks,

Marco

Note: I'm sorry but I don't have the capability of 'cross-posting'.
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From: mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: AA chipset in the A3000 -> I expect it!
Date: 2 Sep 92 12:13:47 GMT
Reply-To: mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

Mike_Noreen%cave@sweden.eu.net (Mike Noreen) writes:
>In a message dated Mon 30 Aug 92 16:20, Cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (colin Adams
>wrote:
>
> CA> It may make some kind of sense though.  Under the new systems you
> CA> have to enquire to find out whether there is 2x or 4x speedup.
> CA> Adding
> CA> the new chips to the A3000 would only gain 2x speedup due to the
> CA> different type of RAM chips needed for the 4x speedup.  I doubt C=
> CA> would
> CA> cripple their new machines by using memory that would only give a 2x
> CA> speedup, so this may imply you can add the new chips to the 3000, but
> CA> just not get full utilization.
>
>Hm? What you need to get 4x speedup is a 32-bit bus and page-mode DRAMs
>chip-mem. The A3000 has both.
>IF the AA-chipset ever becomes available for the A3000, it WILL be able to
>use all the colours/resolutions available.

Well, guys, it does not.  The Custom Chip accesses to CHIP RAM is 16-bits.
The number of pins == 16-bits.  The controller (AGNUS) does not handle
more nor does it do page mode.

It is like buying a 4-cylinder car and wanting to upgrade to 8-cylinders by
replacing the pistons.  (For those that don't know:  this does not work)

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From: thwang@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Tommy Hwang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: A3000T with 040 price...
Date: 29 Aug 92 04:09:46 GMT
Organization: Purdue University


   
   
     This may be old info... but when I was at a Commodore dealer out
of town.  The owner told me that the new A3000T with the 040 chip is due 
to release in October with a price tag of approx. $6000.  Just
for the info...   Bye...
  
                                                        -TKH '92
   
P.S.  Would it have the rumores AA chip? (what ever it is?)
From: dvaz@dvtown.UUCP (David Vazquez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re:  AAchip for 3000(was Re: Offic. new C= Announcements!)
Distribution: world
Date: 30 Aug 92 17:07:31 CST
Organization: Not an Organization

In article <1992Aug27.233643.21140@microsoft.com> iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.205111.1196@pro-freedom.cts.com> eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown) writes:
>>
>> > IF there is no chip-level upgrade for the A3000 and IF there is no
>> > machine-level upgrade (A3000 -> A4000 and CHEAP!) I can say one thing
>> > for sure: I'll sell my A3000 and get me a 486 instead.
>
>Ditto for me. When C= had the power up program last summer it was a deal
>I could not refuse. But I was broke. I sold my A500 and hard disk for
>$1000.00US, got a loan for $2000 from my credit union and bought an
>A3000/25 with multiscan monitor. Added 4 megs or ram and another 80MB
>hard disk.
>

Same for me.  I just finished paying off my A3000/25.  The last thing I need
is to have to go off and buy a new machine just the get the better graphics.

One thing I would like to see C= do is use the PC approach of putting a ma-
chine together.  A card for the disk controllers, one for the video, one
for serial and parallel, etc.  This is done with accelerator cards so why
not with the video (AA chipset) too?  Whenever new graphics technology is
available and implemented, you could just replace your old graphics card
with a new one (ala CGA to EGA to VGA).

What implications would this have if implemented using the Zoro II or III
expansion slots?

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From: doiron@starpt.UUCP (Glenn Doiron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:  World of CBM, Pasadena
Date: 28 Aug 92 23:34:47 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Organization: 68K Software Development

In article <1992Aug26.102151.17000@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Young) writes:
>Many people wondering HOW can Commodore take only 15 MINUTES to show
>many new Amigas!?  C= said new Amigas showing up at Australa WOC
>and new Amigas == A600 and A3000T!
>
>IF Amigas with AA selling soon WHY sell 2.1 OS???

-JY- please take your ramblings back to
comp.sys.atari.falcon.rules.so.you.are.a.loser.nyanyanyanyanyanya
or misc.wanted.grammar-checker
or alt.tell.me.which.newsgroup.this.belongs.in
or wherever you came from.

[Followups redirected to .advocacy]

Glenn Doiron
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From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: CBM/Amiga vs NewTek/Toaster
Date: 2 Sep 92 04:47:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Sep1.214749.1446
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


 > Well, a local store sells Macs and Amigas.

Really?  That would be something to see.  The Mac stores in my area never
ever utter the "A" word... let alone sell them next to the vaunted
Macintosh.  :-/


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: "Jon P Baker" <jpbaker@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: AAchip for 3000(was Re: Offic. new C= Announcements!)
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:55:01 -0500

There will be an upgrade, even if not sanctioned by commodore. This is the
computer that A) spawned the group of owners everyone else loves to hate
(sometimes with reason) and B) makes it so you can use almost anything
no matter how old your computer is.

You can upgrade your A1000 to have ECS chips, 2meg of Chip ram, etc. I
wouldn't be too worried.

Jon

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From: talan@tension.UUCP (Dave Bicking)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: AA chipset in the A3000 -> I expect it!
Date: 27 Aug 92 21:39:44 EST
Organization: High Tension BBS

There's been a lot of speculation on the new AA Chipset and whether it would
actually work on an A3000 computer.  I, as a recent purchaser of an A3000,
expect it to be available - in the current slots.
 
Why?  (you ask incredulously :).  Well, some time ago, I was a brief intern
at C= Westchester, and specifically asked about this (long before I purchased
the A3000).  At _that_ time, they were expecting it to fit in the A3000
motherboard.  They said that the Motherboard's chip socket had a 32-bit
bandwidth, while the ECS still only used 16 (eg: they thought ahead).  
 
I believed this explanation, as the entire A3000 architecture is a 32-bit
system (right down to the expansion bus).  I still believe it (tho much of
the talk here has begun to erode my Faith).  Since that time, hardware
problems may have rendered A3000 compatibility moot (ie: chips turned out too
big).  I hope not.  I also hope C= will offer a real nice upgrade package to
those of us still in the Gold Service warranty category (I've only had mine
for 3 months!)
 
Dave

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From: DonD@cup.portal.com (Don Robert DeCosta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: $800.00!!! For a Cookie?
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 22:36:30 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>(from Computer World July 6, 1992)
>
>"Only a year after Apple shelled out $26.5 million to settle a suit brought
>by The Beatles over the name "Apple", the company may be facing another
>fight. This years offender: Newton. Those in the industry may remember it
>as the moniker of an upcoming handheld personal computer from Apple,
>but the rest of the world knows it as a fig cookie made by Nabisco Foods
>Group. Nabisco has held the "Newton" trademark for 101 years... and has
>been known to be very protective of its rights."

Of course you realize for Nabisco to win they must prove that the possibility
of consumer confusion exists.  Which means someone has to walk into a store
to buy a $2.95 bag of fig-filled cookies and through confusing product naming
leave the store with an $800.00 Personal Digital Assistant.  When did Apple
sign a reseller agreement with Safeway Food Stores?

(Of course for those of us in the Silicon Valley could walk into Fry's 
Electronics to buy an $800.00 Personal Digital Assistant and end up
with a $2.95 bag of fig-filled cookies!)

Don DeCosta           |The nice thing about sanity is|  VM/Nomad2
DonD@cup.portal.com   |you can lose it more than once|  Amiga/Imagine
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: sevigny@vlsi.polymtl.ca (Benoit Sevigny)
Subject: Re: AA chipset in the A3000 -> I expect it!
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:44:35 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.103749.18984@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Colin Adams) writes:
>If there is no upgrade policy here, I'll buy a 486.  Why should the States
>get all the upgrade policies when they aren't even the people keeping
>the Amiga alive?!  :-(
>

You've just found why! :)


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: 8800529@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU ()
Subject: Re: What is so special about Amiga
Organization: school of Mathematics UNSW
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 23:33:23 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.140332.6893@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> dudley@cebaf4.cebaf.gov (John Dudley) writes:
>
>From what I've witnessed, the Amiga's ECS sound still beats the
>SoundBlaster... But the new AA chipset also to be installed on the 4000
>(and available for the lower machines) will have enhanced sound, a DSP
>chip, (digital Sound processor from AT&T), as well as enhanced graphics
>(256,000+ colors and a 256,000 color HAM mode(256,000 colors on screen
>at once... without ham, prob. 256).

	How about this one ? You know what Dynamic ham did to ham
I wonder if it's possible for the new modes. Think 256 colors
from a 24 bit pallete on each line. You almost have a 24 bit display
on screen were each pixel is totaly free from the next. Even if it
takes two scan lines to swap paletes ...
				WWWWOOOOOOOOooooo

> 
>And, supposedly the Amiga 4000 will be in the price range of about
>$2000, with which you add your own CPU (whatever you can afford).

	Hmmmm, one can dream ...
>
>Besides, who wants to be stuck with out of date technology (PeeCees)

	It has come down to a matter of taste ...
	

	Those who have it and those who ...


CYAZ
	George
From: rosborn@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan H Osborn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Amiga 500 discontinued?
Date: 4 Sep 92 03:41:33 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


	My roommate was calling around about getting a 500 when he was told 
that the A500 had been discontinued.  Is this true?  I though that the 500
was Commodores biggest seller.  I also would like to know if any A500's (if
they are still produced) come with 2.04, or HAVE any A500's come with 2.04.
							Thanks,
							Ryan
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From: metal@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (Christopher Lawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: ATTENTION MUSIC MAKERS!!!!
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:19:08 MST
Organization: The Nucleus 16 Lines 403-531-9353 -CNet Amiga-

                      ATTENTION ATTENTION ATTENTION
 
                 We are looking for musicians for hire! 
 
        Needed are 15 modules. 13 modules must be under 75k!. 2 modules
will be used for the intro and credits, and can be up to 300k. The theme of
these modules will be based on an action/adventure game in a medevil era.
The 13 modules will be used as background music. Each level in the game
will have its own music to go along with it. Types of levels will range
from volcanoes in the bacground, jungles, artic fronts, forest and many
more. All musicians will be paid a flat fee for every module we use as
well as credits in game.
 
        It doesnt matter who you are or where your from, if your
interested get in touch! We need modules as soon as possible, there will be
a 1 month deadline from now, for us to choose the best liked modules for
the game. 
 
P        lease Contact: Stephen Shatford 1-403-270-9512 between 9-8pm MST.
 
                If unable to call please leave mail to this account.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Time Management/Scheduling S/W ???????
From: alanb@sdl.mdcbbs.com (Alan Braggins)
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:09:38 GMT
Organization: Shape Data (Division of EDS), Cambridge UK
In-reply-to: thad@cup.portal.com's message of Wed, 26 Aug 92 22:47:05 PDT

>>>>> On Wed, 26 Aug 92 22:47:05 PDT, thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) said:

> | I'm looking for some "time management/scheduling" software.  Can anyone tell
> | me where I can find some, either commercial or pd or shareware?

> For WHAT computer?
> If it's for a Sun, SGI, HP, Honeywell, DEC, IBM, etc etc send email to:

You don't think posting the question in an Amiga group might be a clue?

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 "My employer does not necessarily share my views - but I'm working on it."
From: bob@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (robert s. richardson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Amiga FTP Sides (Is there an FAQ for this?)
Date: 24 Aug 92 01:22:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: leela.1992Aug24.012222.22873
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University

Hello.  I'm looking for a list of Amiga FTP sites.  If this has been
posted recently, my apologies.  Could anyone be so kind as to email
me a copy of such a list?

Thank you very much, sorry to waste bandwidth.

Bob Richardson
bob@atlantis.cs.orst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: bdonison@cookie.UVic.CA (Only AMIGA!)
Subject: Re: Correct, Not Correct, Correct, NOT!
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 07:06:33 GMT

In article <64736@cup.portal.com> DonD@cup.portal.com (Don Robert DeCosta) writes:
>>In article <64541@cup.portal.com> Avi@cup.portal.com (Avi - Schwartz) writes:
>>>>Doing my best not to sound like Marc here, but just when I thought the
>>>>addition of the 1.44 drive (well, 2.0M to be exact) to the A3000T was a
>>>>thoughtful upgrading of technology, I learned that in most cases it is
>>>>now cheaper to source 1.44 drives than 720K drives, simply due to the
>>>>greater demand.  I wouldn't doubt that they start showing up in A500s
>>>>and A600s sometime soon...
>>>>
>>>>- Dave
>>>>
>>>
>>>You would have been correct if you were talking about PC type HD floppy
>>>drives. Unfortunately the Amiga HD floppy drives are not standard ones
>>>and therefore are possibly a lot more expensive.
>>
>>And I still would have been correct (and I was).  MS-DOS drives work just
>>lovely in Amigas, thank-you, as long as they have the proper disk change
>>logic (certain brands do, certain ones don't).  I got desperate and had a
>>Fujitsu 1.44 in mine for a long time (as an 880K of course).
>>
>>- Dave
>>
>
>Yes, PC-type HD drives do work in Amigas as 880k drives BUT the HD drives
>showing up in 3000s that function as HD drives are NOT PC-type HD drives!
>So, Marc (er... Dave), CBM did actually have to RESEARCH and DEVELOP a
>way to get an HD drive to function as an HD drive in an Amiga, which I
>think is a thoughtful upgrade of technology.
>
>Don DeCosta           |The nice thing about sanity is|  VM/Nomad2
>DonD@cup.portal.com   |you can lose it more than once|  Amiga/Imagine

PC HD drives are great.  The speed is controled via software so they can
even read/write Mac floppies.  At least the ones that actually folow the
standard and not just faking it with their own BIOS.  And they are cheep!
It would have been nice if the new Amiga HD drives were PC HD drives
with different controlers set at the correct speeds for 880K and 1.76K,
then someone could write a DOS driver for them.

Why must Commodore always be different at the expense of compatability?
(well not always, but I feel like that right now)

Brad...

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From: thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Time Management/Scheduling S/W ???????
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 14:34:13 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <ALANB.92Aug27170938@swordfish.sdl.mdcbbs.com>

In article <ALANB.92Aug27170938@swordfish.sdl.mdcbbs.com>
alanb@sdl.mdcbbs.com (Alan Braggins) writes:

|  [...]
|  > For WHAT computer?
|  > If it's for a Sun, SGI, HP, Honeywell, DEC, IBM, etc etc send email to:
|  
|  You don't think posting the question in an Amiga group might be a clue?

Actually, no.  The #^$^%$ interface on Portal doesn't show cross-postings,
and during the past 6 months nearly identical requests (for such software)
have been cross-posted to 10+ other comp.sys.* newsgroups.

However, had I read the request from my accounts at any of BTR, Netcom, etc.
and noticed there wasn't any cross-posting, I really doubt my response would
have differed.

In any event, the product I mentioned can run on the Amiga, it's just that
I doubt there's much interest based on a thread which appeared in the
comp.sys.amiga.applications group earlier this year (which is again why I
asked "WHAT computer").

It's very likely that someone NEEDing a time/project scheduling system has
other computers, too.

If the requestor was serious, he can contact the people at the email
address I mentioned.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: A600 price cut
From: alanb@sdl.mdcbbs.com (Alan Braggins)
Date: 28 Aug 92 11:39:12 GMT
Organization: Shape Data (Division of EDS), Cambridge UK
In-reply-to: G.Roberts@cs.ucl.ac.uk's message of 27 Aug 92 12:27:34 GMT

>>>>> On 27 Aug 92 12:27:34 GMT, G.Roberts@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Graham Roberts) said:


> Some good news?
> Commodore UK have officially cut the price of the A600 to 299 pounds
> (was 399 pounds). The A600 HD stays at 499 pounds. It is claimed that 
> 65,000 A600 machines have been sold in the first 3 months of sales
> (in the UK). A reason given for the price cut was the high reliability
> of the machine, with less than 1% returned.
> (Tough luck if you were one of the 65,000 who bought an A600 at the
> old price though?)

That assumes all 65,000 were sold at list price. (When it first came out
there were widespread predictions of a price drop once A500 stocks were
reduced - looks like they were right).
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From: zerkle@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (Dan Zerkle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Comp.sys.amiga.reviewS
Date: 26 Aug 92 08:24:27 GMT
Reply-To: zerkle@cs.ucdavis.edu (Dan Zerkle)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of California, Davis

In article <1992Aug21.145722.58315@cc.usu.edu> slbfn@cc.usu.edu writes:
>If you look really closely, you might just see that there is no longer
>a comp.sys.amiga.review newsgroup.
>
>						--Travis Carter
>						  slbfn@cc.usu.edu

Maybe that's because it's called comp.sys.amiga.reviewS.

As far as I've heard, the groups has not disappeared.  Of course, I
haven't seen too much traffic there, either.

				-Dan
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