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From: asb@kbs.citri.edu.au (Anthony Scott Botham)
Subject: Re: Maintaining SPARCprinters
Organization: Collaborative Information Technology Research Institute
Date:  6 Jan 93 06:14:25 GMT

btonkin@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Bruce Tonkin) writes:

>I have several questions regarding the maintainence of the SUN SPARCprinter:
>1. Is there a way of getting a count of the number of pages printed?
>2.  How does the printer decide when to replace the toner cartridge?
>3.  How does the printer decide when to replace the drum cartridge?

Yes, There are two buttons beneath the black membrane above the power switch.

These can be used to interogate the printer to find out all sorts of useful
information.   About a year ago, Sun faxed me a cheat sheet explaining what
all the codes means.  I can't find my copy at the moment, ask Sun.

If you power cycle the printer while holding down the buttons (I think) it
goes into diagnostic mode, and will not print anything.

The life of a toner cartridge can be prolonged by removing the toner cartridge
and shaking it gently from end to end, after the printer indicates it has
expired.   You only get a few hundred pages more, but that is useful if you
don't have a spare cartridge !!

After you've replaced the toner cartridge you need to power cycle the printer
while holding down the small button near where the power cord connects
to the printer.  This resets the internal "toner level" sensor.

The drum cartridge (as far as I know) dies after 20,000 sheet.  (It's quite
strict and I guess it uses the internal page count).

Anthony Botham
CITRI, Melbourne,
Australia

email: asb@citri.edu.au
From: rpinder@hsc.usc.edu (Rich Pinder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Xtree on your Sun?
Date: 4 Jan 1993 21:49:37 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hsc.usc.edu

Can anyone give me feedback on the Xtree utility running on the Sun OS?  We
have a 670 MP using 4.1.2 SunOS, and one of our users wants to have this
file management utility loaded.  Personally, I'm not a fan of this utility,
but am pursuing this in the interest of my user.  

I hear the utility does some disk maintenence functions, but the tech
support at Xtree couldn't tell me if they use standard unix commands or if
they manipulate file tables using their own algorithm (I'm leery ever since
I had very strange behavior after loading the Norton utility program on a
SCO Unix box). 

I'd appreciate hearing anyones experience.


Thanks,

		Rich Pinder
		USC School of Medicine
		(213) 342-1640

		rpinder@usc.edu

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From: jh26@prism.gatech.EDU (Jay Harrell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: DNS without NIS
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:04:56 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

> Is anyone out there running DNS with out NIS on a SUN
> under SunOS 4.1.3.  If so, would you let us know how you did.
> tony@longstreet.larc.nasa.gov

I'm running DNS without NIS under SUNOS 4.1.3.
I built a new libc.so.1.8.1 using the resolver library that
came with my Sun.  The basic instructions are in the /usr/lib/shlib.etc
directory in the file README.  The specific instructions were mailed
to me by some nice person on the net, and I've managed to lose them.... :-(
I've heard that "resolv+" is a better way to go, but I haven't had time
to look in to it yet.  My new libc.so seems to be working fine, although
I've been warned that I may have trouble with dbx dumping core,
and that the C compiler fails to link libdl when you have libc.1.8.1.
I haven't run into these problems because I haven't done any compiling
since I installed the new library.


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From: elling@eng.auburn.edu (Richard Elling)
Subject: Re: Sun won't fix 4.1.1 so Backup Copilot w
Reply-To: elling@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:26:37 GMT

In article 726520769@pogo, hanson@pogo.fnal.gov (Steve Hanson) writes:
>I think the confusion here stems from the fact that 2.1 includes
>the parts of the former backup copilot package that go into
>the kernel (the file locking, etc).  It doesn't however include
>the actual utilities.

I think you mean filesystem locking rather than file locking.  There
is a rather huge difference.  (like maybe filesystem locking actually
works?  :-)

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From: kwan@netcom.com (Kwan-Seng Low)
Subject: Re: Sun 10's and their SCSI bus.
Keywords: wimpy SCSI
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 01:02:45 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.191513.11724@ll.mit.edu> yasu@ll.mit.edu (Alan Yasutovich) writes:
>
>
>	We just got a SUN 10 and it seems that whatever order
>	we put our SCSI devices in, we can put approximately
>	3-4 devices on.  After that, we get SCSI errors.
>
>
>	We have concluded that the SCSI bus is wimpy.  That it
>	either cannot handle the disks, or it is electrically
>	wimpy.
>
>	Has anyone had any of these SCSI problems?
>
>
>
>-- 
>	Alan Yasutovich
>	"inquiring  (and nosey) minds WANT TO KNOW!!!"
>	I can remember when "safe sex" meant having a padded headboard!!
>	Tick Tock.....Tick Tock......Tick Tock .....Tick Tock......

I was told by a technician that Sparc10 using a slightly different SCSI standard. It's SCSI2 indeed, but it's using differential SCSI, which will limited the
old style (pre-Sparc10) SCSI device to 6 ft. long, physically. Either you need
to get the differential SCSI disk or put a active terminator at the SCSI end. 
Correct me if I'm wrong, it's only a heard-say....

Kwan
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From: aki!wegmann (Frank Wegmann)
Subject: SS10 lost SCSI-devices
Organization: Private/FRG
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 12:46:20 GMT

we use a small internal LAN consisting, beneath others, of a SS10 Model 30  
and an old SUN 4/110. There are two disks and one CD-ROM player attached to  
the SS10.

Suddenly, none of these disks (sd1, sd2) could be used (Disk not found).  
Probing the bus just found the internal disk.  Even the CD-ROM coudln't be  
used.
So I attached the disks to our old SUN which worked fine.  It seems to me as  
if the SCSI interface of the SS10 is broken.  Am I right? (hopefully not!)

And ... what could be a possible reason for this?

Frank

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From: obi@finnbogi.ocs.com (Obi Thomas)
Subject: Re: Partition Getting Messed up
Reply-To: obi@finnbogi.ocs.com
Organization: Online Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:07:10 GMT

In article <8fIG0Lm00Zk281EkBm@andrew.cmu.edu>, eanders+@CMU.EDU
(Eric A. Anderson) writes:
> I have a Sun SparcStation 2, 32 megs of memory, Internal SUN0424 drive
> and an External Toshiba MK538FB drive.  
> I'm finding that about once a day or so, the /usr partition on the
> internal drive is getting completely corrupted.

This may seem rather obvious, but it bit me in the behind once. Check that
your sd0 partition table is correct, i.e., that the swap partition which
is usually just "behind" the /usr partition has the correct offset and
length.

Make sure that offset(sd0b) + length(sd0b) <= offset(sd0g), assuming that
you have the standard setup with swap on sd0b and /usr on sd0g.

If this condition is *not* true, you are paging over the superblock in the
/usr partition.
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From: x03@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (A. Stegmeier)
Subject: Re: Problem w. dial-in modem (ZyXEL)
Organization: University of Heidelberg (Germany)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 23:49:48 GMT

In article <C0F2xE.B6E@ccu.umanitoba.ca> mills@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Gary Mills) writes:
[...]
>>I can dial in, the modem goes off-hook, I get a connect and garbage is
>>displayed on the screen.
>
>The garbage will be the login prompt at the wrong bit rate.

That's what I supposed, because theres some repeating structure in the output.

>>A ps on the SUN shows that getty invokes a login if you press enough keys or
>>send enough breaks from the pc. Furthermore login gets terminated correctly
>>if I hang up or it is timed out, afterwards getty shows up again.
>
>Sounds normal.  You might try setting S38=8 to fix the bit rate in answer
>mode, and set S18=2 to set that rate to 38400.

According to my ZyXEL documentation the port is baud rate locked at 38400 and
the registers S18 and S38 are reserved. Maybe I should update my firmware
and my Manual?

Achim

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From: stmckenna@nap.amoco.com (Stephen T. McKenna)
Subject: Re: TOSHIBA CD-ROM on IPX ?
Reply-To: stmckenna@nap.amoco.com
Organization: Amoco Research Center
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:56:33 GMT

I've got same Sun, same SunOS, presumably same model Toshiba, set up
same as you describe and it works for me.  I get the unrecognized
vendor message at boot time but I believe it's harmless.

Please forgive a possibly stupid question, but do you know the format
of the disk you're using?  Some are HSFS, some are 4.2; i.e. try both
	mount -rt hsfs /dev/sr0 /cdrom
and
	mount -rt 4.2 /dev/sr0 /cdrom

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From: morley@suncad.camosun.bc.ca (Mark Morley)
Subject: Sendmail Problem (I Think)
Organization: Camosun College, Victoria B.C, Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:30:13 GMT


First of all, I've only been a sun "administrator" (and I use the term
loosely) for about 2 months.  I inherited a 4/280 and 8 SPARC 1's to take
care of.  When I took over, mail couldn't be sent anywhere beyond this
little collection of machines, no ftp, no telnet, etc.  The first thing I
did was set it up so all these things work.  But there's one little thing
that's driving me (and my users) crazy!  I think it's a sendmail
configuration problem, but I may be wrong.  Here's the problem...

When USER-A sends mail to USER-B and the two users are on different hosts
(say the first is on the SUN and the second is on a VAX somewhere), USER-B
can REPLY to the mail and it works just fine.  If, however, USER-B happens
to be on the SUN along with USER-A, the reply gets bounced back to the
user.  This only happens with replies, never with the original messages.

Example: A user (ssm@suncad.camosun.bc.ca) send me a mail message (I'm
         morley@suncad.camosun.bc.ca)  I get the message OK and all header
         info looks OK.  I reply to the message and off it goes.  A few
         seconds later I get back an "undeliverable message" error or
         something similar.  This error message tells me that I tried to
         send mail to ssm@suncad.suncad.camosun.bc.ca (Note the 2 suncad's!)

Thinking about it now, could it simply be a bug in my mail program?  I'm
using ELM (most recent patch level, I believe).

Anyway, any pointers/tricks/help/excuses are readily accepted!

Thanks,
MARK

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From: rusty@groan.Berkeley.EDU (Rusty Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: online bugs database modem (1-800-477-476)
Date: 6 Jan 93 11:55:44
Organization: University of California Berkeley
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: groan.berkeley.edu

We've tried 2 different modems of ours at 2400 baud and they both
can't establish a connection with the OBD modem.  An old Hayes modem
can connect at 1200 baud; one of the modems we have supports 9600 baud
and it was able to connect at that speed.

I've also had problems where I call and just get a ring and no answer.

I do wish this OBD service was just a wee bit more reliable.

Has anybody else had any problems dialing in to the OBD?
From: Steinar.Haug@delab.sintef.no (Steinar Haug)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Mounting of NFS filesystems
Date: 10 Jan 93 13:45:34 GMT
Organization: SINTEF DELAB, Trondheim, Norway.

sun030@joy.cs.uakron.edu (JAYARAM S AKULA) writes:
>     We have a local Sun network and a HP network in two different
>     labs managed by one group.  Is it possible to mount some of
>     our SUN filesystems on HP's and vice versa. This will facilitate
>     us a lot of flexibility in terms of resources and software
>     maintenance.
>        Is it feasible or is this a dumb idea !!!

Works just fine. We run a heterogeneous system here with lots of Suns and
HPs, and we cross mount NFS file systems a lot. Some gothchas:

1. The current HP implementation of NFS only allows a user to be in up to
8 simultaneous groups, where Sun allows 16. You *will* get problems if you
have users which are in more than 8 groups... Supposedly fixed in HP-UX 9.0.

2. The current HP implementation of NFS does not allow you to export a file
system with the root= option, and you cannot export *part* of a file system.
This is also supposedly fixed in 9.0.

3. HP and Sun have slightly different semantics for netgroups.

Steinar Haug, system/networks administrator
SINTEF DELAB, University of Trondheim, NORWAY
Email: Steinar.Haug@delab.sintef.no, 
	sthaug@idt.unit.no, steinar@tosca.er.sintef.no
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From: doleh@mcs.kent.edu (Yaser K. Doleh)
Subject: Re: disk partitioning
Reply-To: doleh@mcs.kent.edu
Organization: Dept. of Math and Computer Science, Kent State U.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:41:17 GMT

In article <Jan05.171723.26462@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, kevin@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Kevin J. Eyre) writes:
|> 
|> Is there a command for the Suns that performs a similar function to
|> /etc/chpt on a Dec-Ultrix system?
|> 

format

|> Thanks,
|> 
|> Kevin

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From: bdecker@e-sys.com (Brian D. Decker)
Subject: Re: How do you erase a mag tape?
Reply-To: bdecker@e-sys.com
Organization: E-Systems,University Center
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:03:03 GMT
Keywords: tape erase

In article 1ikbuhINNka5@au-ns.american.edu, kevin@american.edu (Kevin Cruz) writes:
>
>One quick question: What, if any, is the command to erase a magnetic tape?  Is  
>that possible, or will I have to use a large magnet to erase it? 
>
>Thanks
>
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>Washington, D.C.
>   
>"I think Rodney King said it best when
> he said, 'Ow, ow, ow! Racism sucks!'"     -- Dennis Leary

The first question that comes to mind is:  Do you have a specific
security requirement or do you simply want to use the tape over with
no chance of anyone seeing the info that was previously on the tape.

If you have no classified data on the tape, a simple 
"mt -f /dev/nrst? erase" should work.  Otherwise, your sponsor
should have some guidelines for the disposition of classified
media.

Brian

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From: r.evans@ic.ac.uk (Rob Evans)
Subject: Re: SS10 and SCSI length.
In-reply-to: gahooten@yamato.arc.nasa.gov's message of Tue, 12 Jan 93 17:23:41 GMT
Organization: Imperial College Centre for Computing Services
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:50:48

In article <1993Jan12.172341.7429@riacs.edu> gahooten@yamato.arc.nasa.gov (Greg Hooten -- RCS) writes:
>Several articles mentioned that the SCSI length allowed on the SS10 was 6ft.
>About 1ft was in the case.  This is dramatically shorter than the 6Meters
>that the SS2 had usable for cable.  Which is correct?  Is it indeed a 6ft
>length, or is it still 6M?

I'm afraid my article had a mis-print in it. The SCSI specification for
the maximum length of the bus is 6 _metres_. However, you are very unlikely
to get Fast SCSI-2 running at its maximum rate over a 6m bus. Even at low
rates it is still very likely to be unreliable. The golden rule is to make
it as short as you possibly can, then try to reduce it some more. Errors can
be caused by all sorts of things, a few of which I tried to list in my last
article.

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From: paulr@fulcrum.oz.au (Paul Rosham)
Subject: Re: Sun 10's and their SCSI bus.
Keywords: wimpy SCSI
Organization: The Fulcrum Consulting Group
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 03:46:42 GMT

yasu@ll.mit.edu (Alan Yasutovich) writes:
>	We just got a SUN 10 and it seems that whatever order
>	we put our SCSI devices in, we can put approximately
>	3-4 devices on.  After that, we get SCSI errors.

SPARCstation 10, actually.
What SCSI errors are you getting.

>	We have concluded that the SCSI bus is wimpy.  That it
>	either cannot handle the disks, or it is electrically
>	wimpy.

Good conclusion! Are you sure that your disks, terminators
or cabling are not to blame?

What have you got on the SCSI bus, and from where did you buy it?

>	Has anyone had any of these SCSI problems?

The SPARCstation 10 has a SCSI bus that handles fast SCSI-2 transfers at a
10Mb/sec transfer rate. If your cabling and termination is not up to spec,
SCSI errors can occur. If your 3-4 devices have more than 6 metres in length,
you will get errors.

Whether or not your SCSI devices handle fast SCSI-2 transfers is not
significant WRT errors, probably.

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From: bri@athena.mit.edu (Brian D. Carlstrom)
Subject: SLIP on sun
Organization: mit
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 03:06:16 GMT

i'm trying to get a free slip running on sun4.1.1.
i saw and grabbed cslip-sunos4.tar.Z. is this all
i need. i correctly generated the kernel.

what is the interface? sl0?
do i need to purchase slip from sun?
i'm running a generic kernel with  just this change

-bri

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From: jh@cadre.com (Joe Hartley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: SLIP on a SUN?
Date: 8 Jan 93 14:23:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: fripp.1993Jan8.142323.28975
Reply-To: jh@cadre.com
Organization: Cadre Technologies, Inc.

In article EAC@csn.org, bhays@teal.csn.org (Boyd Hays) writes:
>Hello,
>    I need to put SLIP up on a SUN IPC running 4.1.2. Is there a general
>    concensus as to which version is "best". I'm anticipating putting up
>    cslip-2.6. 

I'm currently looking at setting up a SLIP connection as well.  I got a
version of cslip off the net, although it was not the latest version.  It
had almost nothing in the way of documentation, and I didn't get it to
install properly.  I then tried a copy of MorningStar's PPP with cslip
that we had in-house.  It installed fairly easily, and seems to work fine.
I'm going to get the new cslip today, but if it's as cryptic as the old one,
MorningStar's going to have a new customer.

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Subject: Re: Strange behavior of OW 3.0 xdm
From: jkp@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (Jens Petersohn)
Date: 8 Jan 93 08:25:18 EST
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I am using a similiar setup from our SPARCstation 1 with 2 xterminals and
OpenWindows 3.0 with SunOS 4.1.2. On the console I have the user start
OW manually (i.e. by typing openwin) since I want xnews (or xview as the
case may be) run in the user process space. (This on recommendation from
Sun.) On the xterminals on the other hand I have xdm on host manage the display
until olwm is started. When olwm terminates the xdm will take over the
display again and display the login box. This setup has worked correctly
for several months now without any difficulty. If desired I can mail the
various xdm related files to interested parties.

Jens

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From: pallas@oclc.org (George Pallas)
Subject: Re: Expiring passwords and NIS
Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 19:15:39 GMT

rpj@fir.canberra.edu.au (Ross Johnson) writes:
> 
> Is password expiry compatible with NIS? I can't seem to get it to work.

No.  See the section in the SunOS System and Network Admin manual (I don't
have a copy handy to cite chapter and verse).


> eg. I expire X's password on the NIS server (there are no slaves) and
> update NIS manually. X logs into a NIS client and gets asked to enter a
> new password but eventually gets the message "Error from <server>:
> Password incorrect"
> 
> yppasswd doesn't recognise the old password when used on the server
> either.

That's what you see.

> What do I do to get it to work?

You can't under SunOS 4.1.x.  Supposedly Solaris 2.1 allows you to
do this but I haven't upgraded yet.
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