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From: Paula_Lieberman@amicol.UUCP (Paula Lieberman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: NO MORE *&#*$(^*& FEMALE BIMBO ADS!!!!!!!!
Distribution: world
Date: 8 Nov 92 23:49:21 EDT
Organization: Amiga Colony BBS

re article by Jeff Grimmett:

About my t7ypiung [I think I'll leave that typoing stand.....] 

I grew up in a time and place where girls were given the career directions
of becoming nurses, secretaries, teachers, or homemakers.  Those were NOT
things I wanted to do -- I wanted to design starship engines.....  Since it
was pretty apparent that I wasn't fo] going [line noise.... sigh] going to
burn my brain out the way a lot of my female classmates learned, it was
decided arbitrarily by my contemporaries in public school that I obviously
wasn't female.  

As for my own view of the universe, it was very apparent to me that the
best way to avoid being pitched in a typing pool was to OBVIOUSLY AND
OSTENTACIOUSLY be completely and utterly awful at typing and any other sort
of secretarial pool work.  Therefore, my typing was, is, and forever will
be execrable.  Let somebody who LIKES being a secretary and is socially
acceptable do the typing. [actually believe it or not, in a lot of
companies one reason why executives don't use computers is because that's
seen as doing clerical work, and clerical work is for low status clerical
personnel in  that view of the  universe.  My admitted biased view of the
universe, anyone who who likes being in the clerical pool, is welcome to
it.  The places I worked, final copy was always done by clerk-typists,and
there were definite biases against the professional staff [e.g., me.....]
typing things.
 
One other factor -- one of the usual assumptions operating was that anyone
answering a phone who had a female voice was a clerical staff person.  It
gets -real- tiresome to continually have to deal with this.  I'm sad to say
that I'm just as guilty myself of the assumption -- all that cultural crap
is pernicious.  And every time I get reminded about the situation, I get
cranky..

Anyway, the reason that I don't put polished prose up on the boards, is
several fold -- partly a matter of attention span/absent-mindedness, and
not a little, "perfect typing is for Stepford Wives...."


-- Via DLG Pro v0.992
From: TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Word Processors for Amiga & IBM.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 16:32:29 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <69186@cup.portal.com> <1992Nov13.125918.1@cc.newcastle.edu.au>

>My name isn't SOL but I have Excellence! and it does almost all of these. In
>fact the only thing it doesn't do that prevents me recommending it to everybod
y
>is tables. Output to a non-Postscript printer is not the best but I am of the
>opinion that if you are going to get a laser printer then you should get PS
>anyway.

Well, its output to Postscript isn't very good. And yes, I do have Excellence
3.0, and a PS printer. It manages to make Helvetica look bad.  They're
doing something weird with their PS code, although I'm not enough of a
PS programmer to say exactly what's wrong.


TomK@cup.portal.com
Tom Krotchko
From: ggiles@cie.uoregon.edu (Gregg Giles)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A1200 Software???
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:56:57 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon Campus Information Exchange
NNTP-Posting-Host: cie.uoregon.edu

In article <4NOV199210581410@phobos.ucc.umass.edu> s9877751@phobos.ucc.umass.edu (s9877751) writes:
>
>Will game companies start designing games on the new amigas, or will there
>just be alot of IBM ports.  There should be alot of VGA-compatible ports
>available soon.  Plus, will the new amigas get the software support that the
>500 and 2000 had when they were going strong???

   Well, it's pretty obvious that the Amiga "heydey" is pretty much over as
we used to know it. Commodore is basically going to have to resell the new
Amigas all over again. While I think the specs of the A4000 and A1200 are
pretty impressive, Commodore won't be able to bring many game companies into
the AGA fold unless they can dangle spectacular sales figures in front of
them. Probably the first companies to come out with AGA games will be those
that specialize in the Amiga market already. Ports of VGA games will probably
become more likely as the base of AGA machines increases. But for the moment,
I'd say don't hold your breath.

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From: root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:  Top 10 reasons why ...
Distribution: world
Date: 8 Nov 92 17:24:19 EST
Organization: Rick's Amiga

In article <1992Nov7.220845.14551@klaava.Helsinki.FI> lindblad@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Jarkko Lindblad) writes:
>Glen Sescila (glens@natinst.com) wrote:
>
>> 	Yeah, that is a good reason to buy something(1200), because it has
>> fewer features than its competitor!  That makes no sense at all.  Again, add
>
>Does it? Does Falcon has a full blown 150 pin expansion slot? Does
>Falcon fully autoconfigure everything? Does Falcon have a fast
>pre-emptive multitasking operating system? Does Falcon have the
>ability to run Blazemonger? Does Falcon have a palette of 16 million
>colors? Does falcon has resolutions of upto something like 1450*560?
>Does Falcon have fully programmable overscan? Does Falcon have
>PAL-compability? Does Falcon have copper?

Is the Falcon available for sale?

--
Rick Kelly		Rick's Amiga		Framingham, Mass.

		think!unixland!rmkhome!rkamiga!root
From: das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: Re: Oh my God! Help my friend not buy an IBM!
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:35:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.120449.6297@gw.wmich.edu> x90wardell@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.074053.8810@utstat.uucp>, philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes:
>> In article <1992Nov10.205946.14263@ra.msstate.edu> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
>> 
>> [ ]
>        >>
>>>The funny thing is that the only PC owners who post regularly are folks who
> >>have sold their Amigas and bought Clones.  Why is this?  Are you all afraid
>>>that maybe you didn't make the right decision?
>
>	Untrue, I sold my Amiga and bought a clone but that doesn't mean
>I am no longer interested in what is going on in the Amiga world.  One
>day, whenI have more money, I intend to get an Amiga (Amiga 5000 by then).
>I still like Amigas, I do post tings against the Amiga when I hear some
>kid boasting that his Amiga 500 can run circles around an IBM.  I jyust
>can't resist the urge to inform the user that user.

Personally, I have never owned an Amiga.  Perhaps one day I will...
when I am a Big Rich Single Engineer.  

>> [ ]
>> Philip
>> philip@utstat.toronto.edu
-- 
Dan Stephenson                                                 das9674@usl.edu  
"There once was a Lady from Hyde/who ate some bad apples and died/but while we
lamented/the apples fermented/making cider inside her inside!" 
                        -Member of the Court, Texas Renaissance Festival  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: gerald@seas.gwu.edu (Gerald G. Washington)
Subject: Re: Oh my God! Help my friend not buy an IBM!
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:51:52 GMT

x90wardell@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>	I have not seen an Amiga (500,2000,3000) that can even come close
>to what I can do on this in terms of animation, multitasking, and
>raw computing power [of 486].

Then you just have not looked.  I have yet to see OS/2, but I do not
conclude that it does not exist.

The Amiga has marvelous multitasking, 24-bit cards, 33MHz 040's, 16-bit
audio, etc.  So do 486 systems.

-- Gerald
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: What Amiga Users Want In Future Software Applications!!!!
From: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Date: 7 Nov 92 12:29:04 -0600
Reply-To: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

In article <1992Nov6.223359.15772@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA>, tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) writes:
>Not a bad idea at all. Two general precursors to all developments:
>
>       o strict compliance with the 2.0 style guide
>       o consideration for RTG compatibility
>
>A couple of contributions:
>
>       o an application framework environment (Visual BASIC, Toolbook)
>       o a word processing package w/support for structured graphics
Few more:

        o a word processor that can at LEAST read MS-Word/WP 5.1/AmiPro files
        o a terminal program w/ FULL vt320 emulation + Zmodem & xpr support
        o a program like quicken for doing checking/payroll etc.

Jim
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From: lindblad@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Jarkko Lindblad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Oh my God! Help my friend not buy an IBM!
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:12:44 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki
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Philip McDunnough (philip@utstat.uucp) wrote:

> The 030/040 do not overwhelm the 386/486. We could argue this for years. The

030 is a bit faster than 386, 040 is a lot faster than 486. And I'm
talking about the maximum speed of the CPU's, not the systems or the
efficiency of the compilers.
	However, as you said, we could argue this for years, so
perhaps we should not.
-- 
Jarkko Lindblad         | Those people who tell you not to
lindblad@cc.helsinki.fi |   take chances
------------------------| they are all missing on what life is about
This space if for sale  |                        - Metallica
From: stevew@convx1.dseg.ti.com (Steve Wootton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: 300 MIP Amiga
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:20:17 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc

In article <1992Nov12.154520.16411@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jhp3x@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Jeffrey Howard Porter) writes:
>What would the cost of an ALpha based AMiga be?? I recognize the
>incredible speed it has... but doesn't this carry a high price tag?

Depends on what you consider a "high price tag."  The November 9, 1992
Computerworld says:

DEC 3000 400 AXP  $15,000  128Mbytes RAM   110 SPECmarks
    4000 AXP      $77,000  512Mbytes       135 SPECs (single CPU, 2 avail)
    7000 AXP     $168,000    2Gbytes       165 SPECs (single CPU, 6 avail)
   10000 AXP     $316,000    2Gbytes       NA        (up to 6 CPUs avail)

The $15k 400 is the "low-end desktop model."  Looks like you can get Open
VMS and a developer's version of OSF/1 this week, and the end-user version
of OSF/1 by 2nd quarter, 1993.  The 10000 doesn't seem to be available just
yet, so keep your checkbook closed :-)

More details over in comp.arch.

-- 
Steve Wootton  --  stevew@mksol.dseg.ti.com
Hey, don't blame TI... they haven't told me what to say.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: What Amiga Users Want In Future Software Applications!!!!
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 08:03:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.052835.1826@dflores.eagle.mission.tx.us> joel@dflores.eagle.mission.tx.us (Joel Garza) writes:
>Graphical interface for TeX.  Well if you have access to a Mac or
>Mac Emulator, there is a decent mathematical typesetter by
>Prescience called the Expressionist which will allow you to
>create the equation graphically and "paste" it into a TeX 
>document.  At least good for exploring on your own and messing around
>with some really ugly equations.

I've used Expressionist for years off and on. It's ok, but hardly what one
wants to go by. There are only 2 products in the world that one would want 
to consider. The first is a Windows' product called Scientific Word which
is a great graphical interface over LaTeX. It's not an equation editor. It
does a really nice job of hiding LaTeX from you (you can still enter TeX
commands should you wish).
 
The other product is Equation Builder on the NeXT. It properly translates
equations into TeX and vice versa and links well with NeXT TeX (which is
like Amiga TeX- same person). Equation Builder benefitted by having TeX fiends
go at it during a long beta test. Expressionist simply doesn't compare.
 
There are other technical word processors that attempt to translate into TeX.
EXP and Chi-Writer on the PC are 2. On the Mac there's MathWriter Pro which
will have one at some point.
 
However, at this point I can really only see 2 products worth looking at. And,
only one (Scientific Word) will run on the Amiga with a BB. The Mac is actually
not a very good platform for technical typing. It has Textures, which is ok 
and expensive. MathWriter Pro which is kind of neat and a slew of equation
editors.
 
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
From: dlarson@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dale Larson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Haynie's PC Conspiracy Theory
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:34:56 GMT
Reply-To: dlarson@cbmvax.UUCP (Dale Larson)
Distribution: comp
Organization: Commodore Engineering


A while back, Dave posted a humorous theory about the Conspiracy behind the
limitations of the PC.  Unfortunately, he can't find a copy of it any more.

If you saved off a copy of this, please email it to me.  Thanks.


-- 
Dale Larson, Software Engineer | Anyone who believes that what I say or do
   		               | represents the policies or procedures of
			       | Commodore has more lawyers than they have 
dlarson@commodore.com          | common sense.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Amusement over Falcon buffs
From: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Date: 7 Nov 92 12:38:50 -0600
Reply-To: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

It amazing how the device of comparison for the falcon has changed from
the 4000 to the 1200....I recall when the 4000 was announced that the
falcon was claimed to be a "far superior" machine. Now it seems that all the
atari users here have given up that battle "surrender perhaps? :)" and
have moved on to a machine that is more compariable.  All I really have
to say in this arguement is that the Falcon is made by atari and that
is enough to scare most people away...just going by ataris representation
in the american marketplace...(it's the were here!! were gone.. method of
computer sales)


Jim
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Living w/o a computer 'till the 4000 comes. Sigh... X-ASOCC (CBM Blew that one)
           Jim Martin   MATRIX -- If it's made, we sell it. Almost.
A4000 Coming SOON!!, Real soon.                 MARTIN@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
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From: x90wardell@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Oh my God!  Help my friend not buy an IBM!
Date: 11 Nov 92 12:07:15 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

>> 
>> 	It seems to me that you were getting majorly ripped off in
>> your Amiga purchases.  My 88MB EXTERNAL SyQuest drive was $450, from,
>> of all places, MacLand. Considering that SCSI is SCSI concerning
>> the Amiga, just where in the world did you see an 88MB removable
>> drive (I've assumed it's the SyQuest, and not the 90MB Bernoulli)
>> *specifically* for the Amiga at $900???
>> 
> 
> Notice that the Amiga 500 is specified above and it seems obvious that a
> SCSI controller was included in the price. It's a shame that the same isn't
> true for the PC price he quoted.
> 
> -- 
> ----
> Paul Broe
> Internet: broe@plains.nodak.edu
> UUCP: uunet!plains!prototype!k9!doctor (My Amiga 2500/20)    AmigaUUCP 1.16D
> BIX: pbroe Compu$erve: too expensive.                        AmigaOS 2.05


	I completely agree, the PC price doesn't include a SCSI controller
but the price I mention for the amiga includes a kit to make it work
with the Amiga 500.  On the PC, you can just hook it up to a $12 IDE
controller.  
	But with the Amiga YOU HAVE to get the kit and such with the
Syquest drive.  On the IBM, you don't so I didn't feel compelled to
include it in the price.

					-Brad
From: ralph@bugend.edvina.se (Staffan Vilcans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Games and the C64
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:46:04 GMT
Organization: Bugend BBS

tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) writes:

> These were terrific games from Muse. It just shows you how little
> Wolfenstein 3D scores in the originality department. There was in fact an
> Amiga game called "Into the Eagles' Nest" which was quite similar to these.
> Nicely done, but none of the 'Achtung!' speech synthesis :).

Yes, I played that one, on the Spectrum mostly.
But I think it reminds more of Gauntlet...


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From: griffita@fraser.sfu.ca (David Stuart Griffiths)
Subject: Re: Oh my God! Help my friend not buy an IBM!
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:27:15 GMT

matt-dah@dsv.su.se (Mattias Dahlberg) writes:

>If you're not interested in computers buy a PC. Do I need to explain my
>point?

Yes you must!  Your message contained so much depth, was so powerfull,
and had such pure thought in it that I must've totally missed the
profound message contained therein.
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From: ralph@bugend.edvina.se (Staffan Vilcans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Oh my God! Help my friend not buy an IBM!
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 00:12:44 GMT
Organization: Bugend BBS

skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:

> If so few people use MultiMedia, why is it that everyone in the Clone realm
> is talking about it like it is the next big thing?

Amiga-envy. I bet Freud could have made something out of that!


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: clueless@bradley.edu (Matthew Simmons)
Subject: Re: A1200 - yay or nay?
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:42:30 GMT
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Dr Peter Kittel Germany (peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com) wrote:
: In article <n0d87t@ofa123.fidonet.org> Aric.Caley@ofa123.fidonet.org writes:
: >
: >                          The A1200: yay or nay?
: >
: >  I  don't  see any excuse for not having ... and space for a 3.5"
: >hard  disk.  I can see not having a detached keyboard - 
: 
: Well, this belongs together: You must actually have seen an A1200, just
: besides a normal A2/3/4000 or PC keyboard: They are practically same
: size! And when you open the A1200 case, you see that there is indeed
: not enough room for a 3.5" drive. But I am confident that the prices
: will definitely fall for these 2.5" drives, as they are used now in so
: many computers. I think this could even turn into an advantage some
: day. And we *have* to think in long terms, remember when the A500
: came out and what peripherals were back then!
: 
: -- 
: Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel  // E-Mail to \\  Only my personal opinions...
: Commodore Frankfurt, Germany  \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk

I've a small question.... I have a 3.5" IDE HD....  First of all, am I going
to be able to hook it up directly to the 1200's IDE cable/slot/thingie without
reformatting it or does my Ad-IDE do funky things w/the drive?  Second of all, 
I heard something about a week or so ago about how the cable in the 1200 was 
just the right length to hook up an HD, and if it was any longer, then the HD
wouldn't work.... Is it long enough to go out of the case (actually, is the
rumor true?) and allow me to use my 3.5 HD externally?  Please keep in mind
that the computer doesn't have to be pretty afterwords.... It just has to work.
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: terjem@stud.cs.uit.no (Terje Normann Marthinussen)
Subject: Re: COMMODORE NORWAY FOLDS!!!
Keywords: norway monitor 
Organization: University of Tromsoe
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 13:44:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.213859.24209@alf.uib.no>, larsm@ii.uib.no (Lars Magnus Nordeide) writes:
>
>... except that all hardware now ships from Denmark, which increases 
>delivery time. At least that's what my dealer told me. 
Norway is not the only country which get the equipment from Denmark.
And I remember reading an article about it quite a while ago so it can't be
something which has happened recently.

>
>Other than that, I agree with you totally. Mr. Hyldmo didn't know what
>he was talking about. There is a difference between folding and
>restructuring.
>
>The only complaint I have is that the 1960 monitor didn't get a 
>NEMCO approval (it didn't pass the Norwegian requirements for 
>electrical equipment). So it is not going to be sold in Norway.
>Anybody have a suggestion for a monitor (that can be bought in Norway)
>that I can use with my A4000 I am going to buy next week?
>
Sorry.....:(
There's been roumurs that the NEC FG series monitors will sync down to 24KHz, 
it should be interesting to know if this is something which only a few monitors
will do or "all" of them.

Anyway, the 1960 will be available early in the next year (hurray?)



Terje Marthinussen
terjem@stud.cs.uit.no

A kindom for a Flicker Fixer wich is AGA compatible!!!