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From: joe@archsci.arch.su.oz.au (Joe Nappa)
Subject: Mac IIsi & StartupScreens..no go!
Organization: Design Computing Unit, The University of Sydney
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 07:56:23 GMT

I'm having some trouble understanding why a series of Startup
Screens that I copied from Educorp's CD-ROM into my System 7
system folder only display in monochrome when I restart my Mac
IIsi. Yet they display in 256 colours when I copy them into the
system folders of our Mac IIci and IIcx. I've named the files
correctly and set the Monitors control panel appropiately. Is
there some deficiency to the IIsi that I don't know about?
(all three platforms use 13" high res RGB screens, and I guess the
same 8 bit video card)

Thanks.....

-- 
Joe Nappa                  *Lisa: "These talking dinosaurs are more real than * 
joe@archsci.arch.su.edu.au *       most real families on TV"                  *
Dept. of Architec. Science *Bart: "It's like they saw our lives & put it right*
Uni. of Sydney, AUSTRALIA  *       up on screen"  (from Fox's "The Simpsons") *
From: etheredg@iugate.ucs.indiana.edu (Wil Etheredge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: PowerBook & Floptical Drives
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:45:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: lib102b_.etheredg-131092123804
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: Indiana University

I was looking into purchasing a PowerBook, but I know I am going
to need a lot more HD space than what the Powerbook can provide.

So I want to know if there is a Flopitcal 21 Meg internal
out there that can fit into the PowerBook.

I believe it will need to be at 1/3 height at the very least...
but I am concerned about the connection of the Drive (whether
it is connected by pressure connection or hard wire).

If you have any info about this, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: valaris@swifty.dap.CSIRO.AU (Andrew Valaris)
Subject: Change look of mac windows....
Organization: CSIRO, Division of Applied Physics, Sydney
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 02:47:04 GMT


I'd like to know if there are any programs which allow me to change the look
of windows and menu bars to Motif, openlook, Nextstep.....etc, or similar.
If so, what system configuration would be required. I have an original mac II
( 68020, FPU, 2/40.....etc ).

Please e-mail me where possible, thanks.

Andrew

valaris@dap.csiro.au


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: news@cs.mu.OZ.AU
Subject: HELP! What is "DeskTop Folder", & "Trash Folder" ?
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 02:54:35 GMT

WHAT ARE "DESKTOP FOLDER" AND "TRASH FOLDER" ???

Hi.

I have a question about strange folders, "DeskTop Folder" and "Trash Folder".
I am using system 6.0.7 (with desktop Manager) and system 7.0.1 (with 
Tuner 1.1.1) in a same 230 HD (IIci).  Switching is done by system switcher.  

When I switch from system 7.0.1 to system 6.0.7, two folders (with plain folder
icon) appear in the HD window.  They are "DeskTop Folder" and "Trash Folder". 
What are these folders ?  Is it harmful or just a result of system management
difference between system 7.0.1 and system 6.0.7 ?

I found that trash folder was a real "trash can" in the system 7.0.1, because
when I switched from system 7 to system 6, there was a file which I put in
before switching (without selecting "Empty Trash" command). I guess that,in
system 7, trash is treated as a kind of folder, and it remains as a folder 
when I switch from system 7 to system 6.  Am I correct ?
But what is the "DeskTop folder" ?  There is nothing in it.  Nothing 
happened when I trash it in the "trash can" in system 6.

If you have any idea/suggestions about these annoying folders, please post 
it or mail it to me.

Thanks in advance.

Noriaki Onodera (noriaki@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU)
Photonics Research Laboratory
Dept. of E. & E. E.
University of Melbourne
Parkville, Victoria 3052
Australia



Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: GILMART@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Paul Gilmartin)
Subject: Re: BinHex problems...
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 17:27:48 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.213322.24458@unlinfo.unl.edu>
aberigan@nde.unl.edu (A. Berigan) writes:
 
>I have a need to get a .hqx (BinHex) decoder to a Mac LC II with System
>7 installed.  Because of various problems, I can only download text
>files.  I can uuencode a file, transfer it to a non-Mac system, uudecode
>it, and transfer that file to an HFS volume, but likely the file will
>have a "document" filetype when read by the LC II.
>
>Is there a format that I can retrieve a BinHexing application in that
>when I store the file on the HFS volume, the LC II will be able use it
>as is?  Could I be losing important resource forks doing this?
 
It's even as you fear: the resource forks are lost.
 
You must get _one_ more essential piece that isn't shipped with the Mac;
it might be any of:
 
    1) A full-featured comm program.
    2) Compact Pro or Stuffit (for BinHex).
    3) Mac2Macbin Apple File Exchange filter  (AFE itself comes with Mac)
    4) BinHex 4.0 or MacBinary.
    5) (?? AccessPC ?? I don't know if this works; just hearsay.)
From: ivab015@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu (Albert Wu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: How to PS --> EPS ?
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:18:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: chpc.1992Oct15.161844.257
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC


Hi, all.  I need your help if you can.  How can I convert a PostScript file
to an EPS file so that I can insert it into other documents ?  I have
Adobe Photoshop but it seems to accept only EPS file.  If I can change a
PostScript file to EPS, I can then open it with Photoshop and modify it
eventually.

Thanks in advance for any info.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: bower@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Tyson Bower)
Subject: Re: Wierd Use for your Mac
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:06:06 GMT

You could bolt it to a stick and use it for tamping down earth.
You could paint it bright orange and use it as a marker on small
   cronstruction jobs.
You could use it as a chock to keep your car from rolling back when
   it's up on ramps.
You could mortar them together and use them instead of cinder blocks
   for housing foundations.
You can drop them down evacuated cylindars and use it to measure
   the acceleration of gravity.
You could use one to prop up an old sofa with a broken leg.
You could glue fur on it and confuse your pet.
If you live on a farm, you could use it as a small chopping block
   for beheading chickens.
They work wonders for holding up loose windows in old houses.
Strap a couple to your back and go hiking for a good workout.
Use them for defending yourself against potential theives (only
   if you're strong enough to swing it over your head).
Take a pair and make a printer stand.
Create modernistic sculptures out of many of them, plus PVC cement.
Drop one in your toilet tank to save water.
Give them to trick-or-treaters this year instead of Halloween candy.
Next time you bury your faithful, beloved family pet, carve its name
   into the side and use it as a tombstone.
Put a few in your trunk to increase traction in the winter (rear-wheel
   drive vehicles only).

Or, you could just "use it as a doorstop..."

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: wmporter@jetson.uh.edu (William M. Porter)
Subject: Re: Questions on selling "used" softwares
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 05:44:00 GMT

Bob C. Lee from the BMUG BBS wrote to ask about buying/selling "used" software,
asking specifically about transferring registrations & setting prices.

I have done a good bit of this, in both directions, and it is not hard. I would
say that as the seller, the first obligation is on you to offer to contact the
publisher and indicate that you are transferring registration to your buyer. In
some cases, a letter from you is sufficient: That's all Microsoft wanted, for
example, when I sold my copy of Works. Claris, on the other hand, wanted me to
write a letter AND for the buyer to do the same, indicating that he had
received everything from me and was now in possession of the goods.
And recently I bought WordPerfect from a friend: WordPerfect has a formal
transfer-of-registration card that we are both supposed to sign and return.

Of course, you are expected to hand over EVERYTHING--master disks and
manuals--and to erase or destroy any remaining copies you have. When you
transfer registration, you un-register yourself, which means you no longer have
a legal right to possess a copy of the software.

As for setting a price, that's up to you and depends on lots of things: How old
is the software? What condition are the manuals in? What is the going price for
the package NEW from the cheapest source (say, MacConnection or MacWarehouse
and/or a local computer discount warehouse)? How quickly do you want to unload
the software? I have made some good deals, but more bad ones. Good luck.

William Porter 
Internet: wmporter@jetson.uh.edu
Classical Languages: University of Houston
From: craig@ec.uwa.oz.au (Craig Richmond - division)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Chinese Word Processors?
Date: 9 Oct 1992 04:42:41 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: decel.ecel.uwa.edu.au

twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:

>Well, I looked in the FAQ and in the sumex-aim and umich archives, but
>I couldn't find any answers to this question.  Can anyone recommend a
>good word processor (or even any word processor) that will allow me to
>process Chinese text?  I'm looking for something that will run on a
>System 7 Mac Classic, if that helps.

Following my quest for Japanese Word Processors, I wish you the best of
Luck.  The best solution is to get yourself a copy of System 7.1, wait 3
months till they release the Chinese Worldscript Module and look for a
Styled Text capable word processor.

If you want to be able to do interesting things now, you can always get a
copy of a program like Turbowriter which comes in many versions.  I test
turbowriter J (kanji version) on a Beta of System 7.1 and it failed
miserably.  It did work fine on a English System 7, but because it was
assuming that there was double byte characters, you couldn't see anything
on the screen.  It is a 7.1 improvement that has killed it.

Note: To the best of my knowledge, System 7.1 and Worldscript Language
modules are going to cost you money seperately.  None of the covnentional
word processors we tested with this software worked properly either.

Craig

--
Craig Richmond.  Computer Officer -  Dept of Economics (morning) 380 3860
  University of Western Australia    Dept of Education (afternoon)
craig@ecel.uwa.edu.au Dvorak Keyboards RULE!  "Messes are only acceptable
if users make them.  Applications aren't allowed this freedom" I.M.VI 2-4
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: terry@col.hp.com (Terry Thero)
Subject: Re: Another stooge trying to decode files from comp.binaries.mac
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:15:05 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

Hi Dave,

   The first thing you need to do is strip all the head and tail,
   i.e., (that is to say, make this:

      (This file must be converted with BinHex 4.0)

      :#8pcBf&b,R0TG!"6593K8dP8)3#3!`1hd!#3""jm8dP8)3!&!!1hd(*-BA8"!*!
      (!J!&6h0MBA)"4!!f!'@Y)%##`BC!JX'3!%##`D"3M`!$"SUTm8TYff`!CDdf!',

   look like this:

      :#8pcBf&b,R0TG!"6593K8dP8)3#3!`1hd!#3""jm8dP8)3!&!!1hd(*-BA8"!*!
      (!J!&6h0MBA)"4!!f!'@Y)%##`BC!JX'3!%##`D"3M`!$"SUTm8TYff`!CDdf!',

   Likewise, at the end of the file, make this:

	
       P!2IbqTVT2h!0'8!p0)3Ea!"FJ`*SP3eK1(`!ec!#`'P!@!$kLhpP"2r&hmS!1Ye
       I+3%%X&-!CJ#13"P`!f9JIpA6HjT2``#S(J!!!:
       --

   look like this:

       P!2IbqTVT2h!0'8!p0)3Ea!"FJ`*SP3eK1(`!ec!#`'P!@!$kLhpP"2r&hmS!1Ye
       I+3%%X&-!CJ#13"P`!f9JIpA6HjT2``#S(J!!!:

   Ok, now we have stripped the header and any trailer off, you would
   probably be best off using Stuffit and doing a DECODE of the BenHex4.0
   file you have (i.e. oscar.hqx, or whatever). There is a pull down menu
   in the Stuffit package that will let you decode the benhexed file. This
   will produce a *.sit, or *.sea, etc. type of file. You can now use 
   Stuffit to open the *.sit archive and extract the executables, etc. The
   *.sea are self-extracting, just double click on them (if decoding produces
   andy *.sea files).

   Hope this info helps.
							CU
							twthero

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: smytonj@pell4l7.alleg.edu (James Smyton)
Subject: Re: Wierd Use for your Mac
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 09:45:32 GMT

In article <cubsfan.719107334@camelot> cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu  
(Michael Silverman) writes:
> How's this for the weirdest use of a Mac...
> 
> my friend needed to see something under the
> hood of his car the other night, but there was
> insufficient light...no flashlight either...but
> he had a Powerbook 140, that with the backlight
> turned up all the way and placed by the engine
> made an excellent $2000.00 flashlight!
> 
> What is the strangest use you have seen a
> Mac used for? (Fishbowls don't count!)

I have found that a vintage Mac 128K makes an excellent door stop.
Some other uses I can think of for a 128K....

1.  Paper weight
2.  Shot put
3.  Target Practice
4.  Foot Stool(For someone with small feet)
5.  If hollowed out it would make for wonderful conversation if it were
     filled with fresh fruits.
6.  A wonderful place for all those Post-It-Notes on the phone and fridge
7.  A subject of bad jokes
8.  Acquarium(notice I didn't say fishbowl!)
9.  The mouse would make a great NINJA weapon!!
10. The subject of STUPID lists!!!

--
J S  (smytonj@alleg.edu)

Sometimes ya just gotta grab life by the teeth and yank as hard as you  
can.		-Weird Al
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: leec4@rpi.edu (CD Lee)
Subject: Re: Chinese Word Processors?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:07:37 GMT

In article <1b32k1INNt30@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>, craig@ec.uwa.oz.au (Craig
Richmond - division) wrote:
> 
> twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
> 
> >Well, I looked in the FAQ and in the sumex-aim and umich archives, but
> >I couldn't find any answers to this question.  Can anyone recommend a
> >good word processor (or even any word processor) that will allow me to
> >process Chinese text?  I'm looking for something that will run on a
> >System 7 Mac Classic, if that helps.
> 
> Following my quest for Japanese Word Processors, I wish you the best of
> Luck.  The best solution is to get yourself a copy of System 7.1, wait 3
> months till they release the Chinese Worldscript Module and look for a
> Styled Text capable word processor.
> 
> If you want to be able to do interesting things now, you can always get a
> copy of a program like Turbowriter which comes in many versions.  I test
> turbowriter J (kanji version) on a Beta of System 7.1 and it failed
> miserably.  It did work fine on a English System 7, but because it was
> assuming that there was double byte characters, you couldn't see anything
> on the screen.  It is a 7.1 improvement that has killed it.
> 
> Note: To the best of my knowledge, System 7.1 and Worldscript Language
> modules are going to cost you money seperately.  None of the covnentional
> word processors we tested with this software worked properly either.
> 
Actually from my experience, I have been use MacWrite II, Word 4.0 & 5.0
now,
other plain text editors like EditII & BBEdit (all public domain). Both of
these 
program can set the preferences, so you can set the default font to like 
"MT-KaiMedium*DynaLab" or whatever.
I am using System7.0.1* with ChineseTalk II. If you like, you can also use
the 
"ExtEditor" to localize that application.  I like to have English finder
menu,
so everyone in the lab can read. Only thing need to do just talk "finder"
...
almost all files of the "localization" folder. Then no one will notice it's
running
Chinese system. On application you still can type Chinese.

Hope this will help. Feel free to ask any question.

CD LEE, Chun-Da Lee                                 leec4@rpi.edu
ITS Consultant, ITS=Information Technology Service  CD_Lee@MTS.RPI.EDU
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Oliver Schoett <schoett@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Subject: Re: Which Mac should I buy?
Organization: Inst. fuer Informatik, Technische Univ. Muenchen, Germany
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:56:58 GMT

In article <ldi99fINNfak@cronkite> scottw@boulder.Central.Sun.COM
(Scott Wiesner) writes:

 > I've always had a fondness for the "classic" versions.  An
 > all-in-one package with a sharp screen seems like a nice
 > possibility.

I found it difficult (a few years ago) to do even simple text
processing (with Macwrite) on the small screen: One could not make
lines somewhat longer than the default (but perfectly ok on paper),
because then one could not see a whole line at once.  Try sitting down
in front of a peephole Mac and writing a letter.  Observe if you still
feel comfortable after half an hour, or if you find yourself in a
crouched position trying to peek into the screen.  Perhaps you will
then agree that more pixels are a big boon.  My suggestion for a basic
home system would be an LC II with the 640x480 grayscale monitor.

Can't judge how much more expensive this is though -- I'm in Germany,
where Apple offend their (potential) customers with vastly inflated
prices.


Oliver Schoett     Inst. f. Informatik (H2), Technische Univ. M"unchen
                   Postfach 20 24 20,     8000 M"unchen 2,     Germany
schoett@informatik.tu-muenchen.de    phone +49 89 2105-2399  fax -8207
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:17837 comp.sys.amiga.misc:15228
From: bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga advice for Mac user please...
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:54:00 +1000
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

In article <4643@equinox.unr.edu>, rigby@pyramid.unr.edu (Wayne Rigby) writes:
> In article <1992Oct6.125723.4972@syma.sussex.ac.uk> paulr@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Paul Russell) writes:
>>
>>1) How do I transfer stuff from my Mac to his Amiga 600 ? I can
>>   save stuff onto MS-DOS disks - can the Amiga read these
>>   directly, or do I need some sort of utility ? If I need
>>   a utility, what is it called, where do I get it from,

> OK, if his A600 came with AmigaDOS 2.1, he has CrossDOS which will let him
> read/write IBM 720K floppies (only double density floppies in the 600).  If
> no 2.1, no way til you get a term program and a null modem cable.  I do
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
        Yes way if you get a particular PD program, see below.

> believe 2.1 comes with a simple AmigaTerm or something like that, but I don't
> know if 2.04 has it.  I doubt there is a utility for the Mac to read/write
> Amiga floppies.  My suggestion is to find someone there in the area who has
> an Amiga or someone who is willing to send a floppy with a program to read
> IBM floppies (several PD and/or shareware programs to do this).

        If your friend with the Amiga doesn't have AmigaDos 2.1, get him
to look in the "Fred Fish" PD collection for a program called PCPatch. It
allows the programs in the PCUTIL directory to read & write 3.5" floppies
in non-Amiga Formats. You just copy it to the PCUTIL directory and run it
from either WorkBench or the CLI. I've been using it for years without
any complaints or problems, using the same version under AmigaDos 1.2, 1.3
and 2.04. Note, disks formatted for an IBM PC should be formatted for
720K, not 1.44Mb (PCPatch can do this. It was written before Amigas had
High Density drives). If you know enough about the 1.44Mb format, you can
create a "format" file for PCPatch which will let it read & write 1.44Mb
disks, but I don't have a 1.44Mb format file (or a High Density drive).

      You can even create your own custom disk formats. I don't know if
it can handle Mac format disks (Earlyer Macs did strange things with the
floppy drive which made it difficult for other systems to read the disks).


           Bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au  OR  bull@monu1.cc.monash.oz
                    DOD# 251  '84 VF 750   Closet Ducatisto
             Disclaimer. If you love your llama, let it lambada.
From: bwilliam@oyster.smcm.edu (Bill Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: What's a good Plus upgrade?
Date: 12 Oct 92 13:07:06 GMT
Organization: St. Mary's College of Maryland
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d10
X-XXMessage-ID: <A6FEF153530101D2@williams.smcm.edu>
X-XXDate: Mon, 12 Oct 92 14:09:39 GMT

At home I have an old Mac Plus which I use it quite a bit, mostly for
word processing.  I vowed I would NOT upgrade it, since it did
everything I wanted when I bought it and, in most respects, it still
does (I did bring it up to 4 megs, though).  Unfortunately, I have a
IIcx w/8 megs and a IIci w/5 at work, and I'm getting spoiled.  Also, I
foolishly "upgraded" (quotation marks intentional) to System 7 and
Microsoft Word 5.0 and Excel 4.0 at home, and the performance on the
Plus is now simply ridiculous.  Also, I just got a nifty celestial
navigation program that requires a 68881 or better FPU.

So, I'm toying with the idea of upgrading, and I'd like opinions on the
following questions:

1.  Should I upgrade the existing Plus or buy a different machine? 
Cost is of paramount importance here.  I'm after speed, a
floating-point unit, and more potential memory capacity; large
size/color monitors, slots, etc. are not very important to me.

2.  If I buy a different machine, what?  A used SE/30?  A new LC?

3.  If I buy some kind of upgrade board, which?

All opinions solicited, including references to any FTP-able reports (I
recently checked at Sumex-AIM and got the impression that nobody who
writes reports there can remember that there ever WAS a Mac Plus :-)
___________________________________
William E. Williams, bwilliam@oyster.smcm.edu
Divison of Natural Sciences and Mathematics
St. Mary's College of Maryland
St. Mary's City, MD 20686
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.programmer