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From: stripes@eb5ts1.EBay.Sun.COM (Greg Butterfield)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Lexington Reservoir in Los Gatos.
Date: 31 Jul 1992 15:10:10 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: ba
Reply-To: stripes@eb5ts1.EBay.Sun.COM (Greg Butterfield)
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#From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Subject: Re: Lexington Reservoir in Los Gatos.

In article <l7gnmjINNb15@male.EBay.Sun.COM> stripes@eb5ts1.EBay.Sun.COM (Greg Butterfield) writes:
>
> Anyone know why they are draining Lexington Reservoir in Los Gatos, CA???
>The water level is dropping 10-15 feet a week. I heard they are draining
>it dry. Anyone know their plans??

# Again???  Boy our local water management sure knows how to screw up all
# of our fishing spots.  It's amazing how screwed up Santa Clara county is
# in regards to their reservoirs.  Take a look the Alameda Co. reservoirs.
# They even cinderblock old trees below the old waterline when the lake gets
# low.  It makes good bass cover.  Santa Clara Co. doesn't care about fishing.


> The water level has dropped so much that it has became very easy to
>catch fish. I was there 2 times this week and I averaged 15 bass in
>2 hours on spinnerbaits and plastics. Also the folks down the bank were
>pulling in catfish. One cat looked to weigh 7-8 pounds. There also are
>an assortment of rusted old lures and tackle that can be found on the 
>now dry shores.

# Thanks for the hint.  The last time they drained it someone caught a 37 pound
# catfish as it was getting low.  About seven years ago they drained it and
# I had about the same luck your having on the bass as it was going down.  I
# also caught a 5.5 pound bass there that year.  Where abouts are you fishing?
# Have you heard where they're going to transplant the fish?

	I was there again last night and it seems all the bass I
	returned the day before were on my line again. It seems 
	in mid afternoon, the big bass will take plastics and the 
	more aggressive smaller bass will take spinnerbaits.
	Try fishing on the west side of the reservoir at the north
	end. You'll see a steep bank with bushes in the water and
	it drops off fairly quick. Bring some old shoes that you 
	wont mind getting muddy. The water is dropping so quick that
	the banks are still very muddy. I'm not sure if they are
	going to have a fish kill or will transplant the fish.

        Good Luck!
-Greg


Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: wbg@mtek.com (W. Brewster Gillett)
Subject: Re: WD-40
Reply-To: brew@mtek.com
Organization: MTEK International, Inc.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 00:42:32 GMT

markc@onondaga.East.Sun.COM (Mark Conti - Sun Syracuse, NY FE) writes:

> I've tried WD40 on my bait, but the darned fish kept slipping off!
>At least they didn't squeek anymore ;)  Seriously, what does this
>do? Is it smell or the oil rising off the bait that attracts?

>---
>Mark Conti	

I'm not conversant with the theory, but in practice, most sturgeon seekers
in these parts spray their bait with WD-40. Probably at the least it helps
to mask most of the human scent. At least in my somewhat limited experience
those big delicious teleosts seem to prefer sprayed to non-sprayed. I got a
five-footer in the lower Willamette a couple of years ago with WD-40-sprayed
sand shrimp. In any case, you'd be hard-pressed around here to find a sled
without at least one can rattling around in the gunwales.


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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Fly Tying
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:35:53 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

For a long time I've been saying to myself "you know, I really ought to
take up fly tying".  I've built quite a few of my own rods and have done
quite a bit of fly fishing but never got into tying my own flies.  We'll
I finally broke down and bought a fly tying vice (actually part of a kit).
The instruction booklet that came with it was very crude and thus I am
looking for more information.   I am looking for recommendations which
focus on technique as much as specific patterns.  Color pallets which show
fly tying materials would be helpful as well.  I know there are a lot of
fly tying books available so if you want to send email I'll compile a
bibliography and summarize. 

I am also looking for instructional videos as well.  Note, I'm looking for
something for someone that has never tied a fly before.  I am primarily 
interested in dry flies and nymphs for trout fishing.
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| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
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From: dsmith@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (David R. Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: electic motors
Keywords: stealth, motorguide
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:24:44 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories Palo Alto,CA

In article <1992Jul24.181911.6008@sequent.com> phantom@sequent.com (Bert Pelca) writes:
>does anyone out there know how to translate an electric
>motor's pounds of thrust to horsepower?

I got some literature from Navigator, which makes electric trolling motors
that attach to the antiventilation plate of a bigger motor's lower unit.
Their table showed the 50-lb thrust motor equal to a 4hp gas engine.  It
drew about 300 watts, if I recall right, which is less than 1/2 hp.  I
don't know how to reconcile those two figures.

-- 
David R. Smith, HP Labs | "How would *you* like a job where, if you make
dsmith@hpl.hp.com       | a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000
(415) 857-7898          | people boo?" -- former hockey goalie Jacques Plante
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: jmd@cs.Princeton.EDU ()
Subject: fishing in chicago?
Originator: jmd@atomic
Organization: Princeton University CS Department, Princeton NJ
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:19:01 GMT

Hello Anglers,
I'm traveling to chicago next week, and I have an entire free day.
As I dimly recall, chicago is next to a great lake. Is there fishing
at the chicago/lake border? If so, what is there, and how should I try
to catch it? I have a medium spinning rig and a medium fly rod, but I'll
only bring one of them with me. Also, if anyone knows how Illinois
vacation fishing licenses work, I'd be obliged. I don't care how polluted
the water is, unless it is illegal to fish, or dangerous to touch as I'll
be staying in a hotel and I don't care to catch my own sashimi. I'll be
limited to public transportation and my feet.

thanks!
-john


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(609) 258-5386			|	graphics & systems
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Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: dsmith@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (David R. Smith)
Subject: Re: WD-40
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:18:27 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories Palo Alto,CA

In article <6316@sniff.wfo.dec.com> jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com.UUCP (Joe Whittemore) writes:
>Charley White has a video out called "Salmon
>Spectacular" (F A N T A S T I C   V I D E O  !) one segment shows a "clean"
>bait fished next to a bait that's been soaked in "bilge water" (a very
>nasty mess of fuel, oil, slime etc. etc.) and the salmon whack the "bilge
>bait" EVERY time..........

A couple of months ago I saw a man do a fishing presentation using
a tank about 30' x 4' x 6', filled with trout, bass, and some others.
All the hooks had been cut off the lures.  After demonstrating a
rubber-skirted spinnerbait, he cast it onto the parking lot blacktop
and had a kid kick it around and stomp on it a few times.  Then he threw
it back to the fish, and the bass hit it just like before.  (I think the
trout still went for it, too, but my memory on that is a little fuzzy.)
The point he was making was that smell doesn't mean much.

-- 
David R. Smith, HP Labs | "How would *you* like a job where, if you make
dsmith@hpl.hp.com       | a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000
(415) 857-7898          | people boo?" -- former hockey goalie Jacques Plante
From: jbennett@dstos3.dsto.gov.au
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: verifying a big catch
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:01:55 GMT
Organization: Defence Science and Technology Organisation

In article <1992Jul16.134226.19165@ncsu.edu>, plh@eos.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron) writes:
> In article <1992Jul15.201121.1171@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, David.T.Greenfield@dartmouth.edu (David T. Greenfield) writes:
> |> If one is alone in the wilderness and catches a trophy sized fish is
> |> there any way to officially document the size and weight and still
> |> release it?  A photo might cover the size but what about the weight?

I don'ty know about USA, but here we need to get to the nearest shop with 
certified scales & have it weighed & verified by the shop owner.

Regards,

John Bennett                                E-mail: jbennett@dstos3.dsto.gov.au
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Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: woods@ncar.ucar.edu (Greg Woods)
Subject: alt.fishing to go away
Organization: Scientific Computing Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Distribution: ncar
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:47:33 GMT

(This was posted with distribution 'ncar'. It is not supposed to go
 outside this building)

Now that there is an "official" group for this subject (rec.outdoors.fishing),
in a week or two this group will be deleted here. You should subscribe
to the new group.

--Greg
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (A. Lani Teshima)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing,rec.backcountry
Subject: Re: Ancient Forest, SALMON ALERT
Date: 23 Jul 92 05:42:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Hawaii

In article <15JUL199210353731@mpx2.lampf.lanl.gov> redd@mpx2.lampf.lanl.gov (Dale Redd) writes:
>What's really obscene about the loss of so much old growth forest to logging
>is the amount of timber that we export each year to countries like Japan.
>Over there, from what I understand, they don't allow practices such as clear
>cutting, but they are sure happy to buy all the timber they can from us,
>since the almighty dollar is obviously more important than preserving the
>environment.
>
>                                         Dale

You think they like our timber--you should see what they're doing in
Southeast Asia! Our virgin timber might make their furniture, but the
beautiful rainforests of the Philippines, Malaysia and Indonesia are
raped to make--DISPOSABLE CHOPSTICKS!!! Japan can easily crown itself
the "emperor of exploiters." The same drive that motivates them to
build all the popular cars and electronics is the same drive that
motivated them to spear jiggling brown babies and force Korean women
into prostitution ("comfort women") during WWII. There is nothing
different in their attitudes about exploiting others for their own
development. Hawaii has been victim to its overzealousness, as well.


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A small mind is easily filled with faith.               o|<0_0>--------*
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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: Anyone out there used "Got-a-bite" bait for catfishing?
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:23:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <14mta0INNqge@agate.berkeley.edu> markh@sag4.ssl.berkeley.edu (Mark Hurwitz) writes:
>
|	The other day I heard a scientist being interviewed on 
|"As it Happens," the Canadian radio magazine.  He claimed to have
|isolated a chemical which encourages freshwater catfish to go
|into feeding-mode, and begin biting everything in sight (or perhaps
|scent).  A commercial product called Got-a-bite or Gottabite or
|Goddabyte (it was radio after all) purportedly contains this chemical.

Everytime I see something like this or especially Berkley Powerbait I 
imagine a a Monsanto lookalike commercial with a tag of "better fishing 
through chemicals".

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| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
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From: bart@druwa.ATT.COM (BartholomewR)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: WD-40
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:12:45 GMT

> Up here in Minnesota most every fish house you visit has a can of WD-40
> inside.  Others laugh when you spray your bait, that is they laugh until
> you start nailing the crappies.  I've never tried it yet in the summer.
> 
> A note to you folks down in the south:  A fish house is a shack type deal
> with a heater that you pull out on to the lake in the winter to fish out of.
> 
> Matt Rein


I see, and have seen in previous discussions on this topic, the claims that
people have "heard" it is good. Does anybody have any first hand accounts, 
either positive or negative? I have been reluctant to try it for this reason,
WD-40 is petroleum based (smell it, has that oil smell). Sure it probably 
leaves a trail and smell in the water, but it doesn't seem like something a
fish would be interested. Myself and many others I have spoke with use a
fish attractant after messing with the motor to remove, to the extent possible,
remnants of the gas/oil.



bart
From: stripes@eb5ts1.EBay.Sun.COM (Greg Butterfield)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Soft Crankbaits...
Date: 27 Jul 1992 17:28:24 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: stripes@eb5ts1.EBay.Sun.COM (Greg Butterfield)
NNTP-Posting-Host: eb5ts1.ebay.sun.com
Keywords: soft crankbaits.


 Has anyone added soft crankbaits to their tackle box yet??
If so has the soft crankbaits proven more productive than the regular
hard plastic crankbaits?  I heard that after a strike the fish would 
mouth the lure, and hang on to it longer rather than spitting it out.


-Greg
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: fleck@col.hp.com (Dave Fleck)
Subject: what be of rec.outdoors.fishing
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:36:43 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

yo Brian,

Since the vote is over what is happening with rec.outdoors.fishing????

Let us know what is going on....

Dave
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Internet: fleck@col.hp.com              Information Technology Center
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: roa@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Robert O. Anderson)
Subject: it's that WD-40 thing....again
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:15:14 GMT


Back to WD-40 thing........

        I floated the James River yesterday. There were four of us in a
jon boat(my friend, Jim and our 13 yr. old boys). We were fishing for
Smallmouth bass. Along with an assortment of artificials, we had 3 dozen
large minnows and 2 dozen madtoms.
        After reading (on the net) all about this WD-40..... I took a 
can of it along..... bragging to the boys about how lucky we were to 
have it along and all... Jim shrugged it off. 
        As we motored to the shady side of the river, no one had had
any hits. I figured it time to test the WD. Jim frowned and the boys
laughed while I sprayed my minnow...... I caught the 1st six bass and
we were all fishing the same way(minnow hooked through the lips and 1
split shot) with the same bait. After the minnows were gone, I started
using madtoms......caught six bass on one madtom. 
        Jim never did spray any of his baits. The boys gave in pretty
easy.... but I caught more bass than the rest of them put together.

Bottom Line: Well, WD-40..... it worked for me.

Bobby


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Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: kosicki@ratchet.Prime.COM (Bernie Kosicki)
Subject: Need Bass/Northern Pike Tips...
Reply-To: kosicki@ratchet.Prime.COM (Bernie Kosicki)
Organization: Prime Computer R&D
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 18:20:25 GMT


I need some hot weather bass fishing tips.  It seems this year that I
have done really well at dusk and into dark.  But the lake that I fish
in Maine is starting to warm up, and there is some increased algea
growth (ie the water is getting a little murky).  I have not had good
luck during the day lately, and I think the fish may be holding in
deeper water.

I wonder what plastic worm colors people have used successfully in warm,
slightly greenish water, with a dark bottom.  Purple 'Manipulator' had
worked up until the start of july.  Also, I have never really tried Jig
and Pig.  Any comments/suggestions on that technique (Water depth?
Tackle colors?).

It seems that there are some Northerns in the lake also, although nobody
up there seems to want to fish for them.  I have always wanted to catch
one, but did not realize they were there.  What should I purchase for
them, if I am only going to get three lures, (what are the BIG THREE)?


Thanks for any help, I appreciate it,


Bernie Kosicki
kosicki@s35.Prime.com
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: bailebn@mail.auburn.edu (Bliss Bailey)
Subject: Re: Where to bring son(3-1/2) for first success
Reply-To: bailebn@mail.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:24:47 GMT

Mike--
	Have you tried a private fish pond?  Yeah, it may cost a few bucks,
but your son probably won't know the difference, and it can be great fun.
I own a catfish pond (sorry, Alabama is a little far to drive, I know), and
it has made avid anglers out of several wee nippers I know.

	I wouldn't worry about your son losing interest permanently.  Fishing
has been going in and out of "fashion" for me for my entire life.  I'm about to
hit 30, and it's coming back around for me again.  I haven't been fishing with
my dad in a couple of years, and I am trying to figure out how to arrange it
even as I write this.

Bliss Bailey
Auburn University
Auburn, AL
bailebn@mail.auburn.edu
From: khui@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Kelvin Y. Hui)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Has anybody ever used the buzz bomb or Zzinger?
Date: 27 Jul 1992 19:39:02 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: diva.berkeley.edu

How effective they are for mooching and bottom fishing?  I would like to
hear from experienced fishermen before commiting 40+ bucks, and valuable
fishing time.

btw anybody interested in maintaning a FAQ for alt.fishing (or
rec.outdoors.fishing)?

Kelvin Hui
From: drake@think.com (Chris Drake)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: NE surfcasting info for ya damn yankee's ;)
Date: 24 Jul 1992 17:50:49 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: quicksilver.think.com

Though I'd pass this on to you all. It's a little fractured but so
what it's also free.

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Subject: Re: surf casting tackle 
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 13:34:07 EDT
From: Chris Drake <drake@Think.COM>


Plumb island is one of the best places in your area.  Another good place
to the north of you would be the Saco river jetty.  It is in Bideford ME..
I have heard good reports from the cape Ann area.  

One of the best sources for fishing locations is from a weekly magazene
called "The Fisherman". It has a New England edition that covers southern
Maine to nothern Connecticut.  It costs $20 / year for 52 issues.
If you are interested I will send you the phone number, (don't have it
with me today).

I do most of my surfcasting in RI on the Narragansett bay.  Barrington
beach in Barrington RI is very productive in the evening.  I usually
bring at least 2 rods.  One I thow out bait with, and the other I cast
lures with.  This way you cover 2 zones of water to increase your odds.

Nothing is better for live bait than live eels.  They are hardy and
have alot of action.  I usually cast one out with a bobber and about
4' of line beteen the bobber and the eel.  I let the current take it
for a while then reel it in and try again.  If this fails or I get bored,
then I use a weight and let it sit on the bottom.

For lures, I concentrate on spoons like the Kastmaster.  A spoon will
give you more casting distance thus you cover more water.  Make sure
it has a white bucktail on it.  Spray some fish attractant on the buck-
tail as well. The bucktail give you better odds with the bass.  For
the blues, its just a matter of being in the right place at the right
time.  They will hit anything that moves.

Try the mouth of the westport river sometime as well.  It is located
at the end of Horseneck beach in Westport MA., (near Fall River).
The evening is allways the best here for the boat traffic dies down
then.  An incomming tide will bring in the small snapper blues with
it.  I have caught big bass here at night with eels and surface
poppers as well.  Night fishing is better for eels for you set it
and forget it.  A line tangle in the dark when casting is no fun.

I'll be on vacation next week doing all of what I just wrote to you.
Feel free to forward this to the newsgroup if you want.

Chris


Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: shelley@b30!b11.ingr.com (Shelley Read Heard)
Subject: Ol' George (was BOWFISHING C@R IT WORKS)
Reply-To: shelley@heard.b30.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:01:32 GMT


When I was a lad (12 or so) I used to fish at a Yacht Club dock at
night under the lamps.  This was near Savannah GA.  In the late 
summer, HUGE speckled trout (we called them summer trout) would
swim up to eat the mullet and shiners under the light.  One 
particularly HUGE trout (~ 10 pounds or more) would lounge around 
the pilings.  I hooked it 4 or 5 times in one summer with 8 lb. 
test and each time it broke off.  The regulars at the club called 
him George, and almost everyone had stories of hooking George and 
how he knew every oyster and barnacle within sight.  Loosing him 
had become a sport.  Just to get him to look at your bait was a 
thrill.  A five inch live prawn usually got his attention 8-).

Sadly, a boy came down on the dock one night with a fishing bow 
and nailed  Ol' George in the head.  I guess he tasted good.  But
talk on the dock was subdued after that.

I would rather loose a hundred George's than take one that way.  

Just MHO.  Shelley.


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