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From: Andy@Birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Questions...
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:35:53 EST
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 <1992Nov17.214156.7453@midway.uchicago.edu>
Keywords: Stromer acting up
Summary: Here we go again
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In article <1992Nov17.214156.7453@midway.uchicago.edu>, Stan T2 Wen writes:

> Yeah, he did say it was he, and he's proven it with his words.  All we can
> do now is 1) ignore him, 2) laugh at his tasteless humor, 3) flame him,
> 4) take him seriously, or 5) agree with him.
> 
> Phil, I'm assuming you're doing this to be funny.  If I'm right, it's a
> very risky thing to do considering how P.C. the people on the net are.
> Perhaps you should not log on from your terminal while smoking weed...?
> 

Time to start editing out kill files. Since I'm using my Amiga for UUCP,
I need a program called TWIT. Appropriate name, eh?

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From: jewell@Data-IO.COM (Cal Jewell)
Subject: Re: News Flash: WWF Fires Warrior & Bulldog!
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:27:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.215635.13473@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs921037@ariel.yorku.ca (RON E BARNETT) writes:
#
#Ron Barnett (Hola Me Chico's -- Ramon, all the time)

Actually, I think Razor is saying "Oya me, chico." which is spanish
for "listen to me, man". (I'm a little fuzzy on the spelling, but
"oya" is the third person imperative of the verb oir, which means
to "listen to".

ObWrestling: Anybody know what the Clash/PPV schedule is for 93? I
wonder if Watts has carried out his plans to remove one PPV from the
WCW lineup.

-- 
Cal...                        "I meant no harm. I just liked
                               explosives and I was careful never 
 jewell@Data-IO.COM            to kill more than I could eat."
 ...!uunet!pilchuck!jewell       -- Hunter S. Thompson
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From: fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp)
Subject: Survivor Series
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:43:46 GMT

  Actually, for foresight, Vince is kind of lucky that there are not more
elimination matches.  Think about it, if there were elimination matches,
Savage, Bulldog, Ultimate Warrior, and Undertaker would all be captains of
teams.  Thn, on Wednesday, Thanksgiving ease:

  Gene Okerlund:  Welcome to Survivor Series.  Before we being, the Warriors
team will now be captained by Bob Backlund and the British Bulldog, captain
of his team will be replaced by uh...Marty Jannety.  The Undertaker (too
injured to wzestle an entire SS match) will be replaced by Hacksaw Jim
Duggan.  Da Mountie will be replaced by Terry Taylor, you folks who watch
Prime Time know who he is.

  Thanks to individual matches, you just drop the match (ex Bulldog vs Mountie).
replace a member (main event), or just make it quick (Undertaker vs Kamala will
probably be real short).  At least using these methods, we got rid of the
Bushwackers and don't have to sit through a Mountie/Bulldog match.
From: Andy@Birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Lou Thez 
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In article <Bxp9FJ.6qI@ulowell.ulowell.edu> hsano@cs.ulowell.edu (Hitoshi Sano) writes:

>    Also-  it seems that lots of Japanese people are a little upset about the
> 'Yokozuna' thing.  I don't suppose its a big an insult as say, Tatanka, The
> Mountie, or IWCCW's GI Bro.  The thing is that they don't look at wrestling
> the way many Americans do so they don't blame Vince- They blame America.
> Way to go Vince.  Boy, you tell him to go and get some really big Japanese
> talent and what does he do?
> 

Sounds like that's the end of the WWF/SWS matches. I haven't heard of any
in a long time. Anyone know what happened to them?

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From: MJFORRES@SUVM.SYR.EDU (maurice)
Subject: Re: Info please
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 16:45:58 EST

Re:  World Pro Wrestling from Japan, vol. 1
 
In article <hit.722403452@sol>
hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe) writes:
 
>Sounds like the worst video for the Japanese wrestling.
 
It's not that bad.  I bought it when it first came out and was
advertised in The Observer.  For a lot of folks, I suspect, it
was their first chance to see much Japanese wrestling and
compared to most of what was on TV it looked pretty good.  Of
course, Solie fumbled a number of times but the fact that he
did the commentary probably helped to sell a few copies.
 
I've seen a lot more Japanese wrestling since I bought the Dusty
Woods tape, and I'm not as impressed with that tape as I once was.
But still, I probably wouldn't have made as much of an effort
to seek out Japanese wrestling if I hadn't had the chance to
see some of it on a tape specifically marketed to an American
audience.  Reading about it in The Observer can only take you so
far.
 
maurice
                                                 Maurice Forrester
                                                 mjforres@suvm.syr.edu
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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: WWF changes pay-per-view ad
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:23:24 GMT

The WWF has changed the local ppv ad previewing the Survivor Series.
Tacked on to the end of the original ad is an addendum saying that Mr.
Perfect is replacing the Ultimate Warrior in the main event.

Unfortunately, the ad still says Ric Flair is WWF champion.

Michael
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From: cs921037@ariel.yorku.ca (RON E BARNETT)
Subject: Re: Questions
Originator: cs921037@t02.ariel.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:23:43 GMT


In article <Bxs2p6.q9@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v069qryr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Aaron T. Breen) writes:
>> In article <1992Nov15.175141.1939@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, ashall@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Andrew S Hall) writes...
>> >1.  Trivia question:   Bret Hart has held the WWF tag, intercontinetal,
>> >                        and World belts. Who else has done this?
>>  I'm not too sure, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it was either Pedro
>>  Morales or Tony Garea....Again, I'm not too sure.
>>     (It was indeed Morales, although Garea may have done it too, but I don't think so.)
 
   Ron("Hola, me chico's", Razor)






>> >2.  How can I get Wrestling Torch. (I know some one else asked, but
>> >                    wanted a E-Mail response.) Please post.
>>   Yes, let me know about this too...Thanx in advance
>> +------------------------------+---------------------------------------------+
>> |     Aaron Trevor Breen       | "I took the money, I spiked your drink,     |
>> |       "The  Dazzler"         |  You miss too much these days if you stop   |
>> |------------------------------+  to think.                                  |
>> |V069QRYR@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU |  You led me on with those innocent eyes,    |
>> +------------------------------+  And you know I love the element of         |
>>                                |  surprise.                                  |
>>                                |  And in the garden I was playing the tart,  |
>>                                |  I kissed your lips and broke your heart.   |
>>                                |  You, you were acting like it was the end   |
>>                                |  of the world."                             |
>>                                |         "Until The End Of The World"- U2    |
>>                                +---------------------------------------------+ 
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From: joepet@sprockets.engin.umich.edu (Joseph L Petrow)
Subject: Re: The most attractive woman in wrestling
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 22:49:19 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Keywords: Best looking woman
Originator: joepet@sprockets.engin.umich.edu


In article <1992Nov22.011759.2040@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Mike.Dunnagan@launchpad.unc.edu (Mike Dunnagan) writes:
> I don't see how anyone could find Sherri attractive. The thing that
> comes to my mind when I see her is "black hole." Lady Blossom is ugly too.
> I used to like Precious, but she's probably a hag now. Hollywood of GLOW
> was a babe.
> 
> Mike
> --

Hey, glad someone agrees with me!  Hollywood and Thunder were the two
reasons I sat through any GLOW show.  Wonder what happened to all these
people when GLOW folded (I'm pretty sure Tiffany Mellon became a porn
star, but have now idea about the rest.)
 
Joe.
From: v069qryr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Aaron T. Breen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Perfect turns!
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:57:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <mjenkins.722010543@cunews>, mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson) writes...
>In <1992Nov16.224900.2742@bvc.edu> szemkusmarkw@bvc.edu writes:
> 
> 
>>	How about that!!  Never in my life did I think perfect would ever 
>>become a "good guy."  That was probably the best primetime that has been 
>>out in a long time.  
> 
>Can someone PLEASE post *what happened*!?!?
> 
>Not all of us get Primetime, and the only posts so far have been along
>this line of "Gee, I never thought it would happen, wasn't that great,
>etc."
> 
>Michael

 From what I remember, Curt Hennig was a face early on in his career. Back in
 the old AWA days, good old Curt was involved in quite a few feuds, but then
 turned heal to face Greg Gagne, and eventually grab the AWA title away. He's
 been a heal ever since, but he was exceptional as a face early on. I say that
 he should go face, I never did like his heal angle.

+------------------------------+---------------------------------------------+
|     Aaron Trevor Breen       | "I took the money, I spiked your drink,     |
|       "The  Dazzler"         |  You miss too much these days if you stop   |
|------------------------------+  to think.                                  |
|V069QRYR@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU |  You led me on with those innocent eyes,    |
+------------------------------+  And you know I love the element of         |
                               |  surprise.                                  |
                               |  And in the garden I was playing the tart,  |
                               |  I kissed your lips and broke your heart.   |
                               |  You, you were acting like it was the end   |
                               |  of the world."                             |
                               |         "Until The End Of The World"- U2    |
                               +---------------------------------------------+ 
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From: fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp)
Subject: CoC reviews
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:49:28 GMT

  It always amazes me how different people watch the same show with different
opinions (someone referred to this as the worst Clash ever, I hold that
title for the one where Arn & Larry won the tag title from Rick Steiner &
Bill Kazmier, along with a few other umimpressive one).

  Despite having to follow a summer Clash that included the Steiners, Liger,
Chris Beniot, Hiroshi Hase, and others, there were some highlights:


  Too Cold Scorpio's flip off the tope rope.  Back in the WWA, Scott Steiner
did a similar finish, but always did a front flip off the top rope, landed
on his feet then dove forward to splash the guy.  This guy touched nothing but
mat (and Tony Atlas).  His earlier moonsault body press missed Jack and he
landed on his but trying to flip in the ring, but he is the most impressive
new comer in a long while (even if he has done work in Mexico  Japan).

  The boxing match was better than most "real" fights you see.  Makes me
wonder why more professional fights aren't scripted.  With an exception of
one or two rounds, the last three heavy weight title bouts have been snoozers.


  Sting vs Rude had some good points, particularly Sting splashing the guard
rail and Rude losing without having to suffer a pinfall.  Nice they announced
Larry Z as a former AWA champ.

  I was typing my report of CoC during the last match, so I only caught the
high points.  Man o Man, what a chair job by Barry on the new tag champs!

  Overall, I would say this was a pretty good wrestling show.  I am impressed
with the title change (remember when title changes occurred on PPV's only?).

  I guess I forgot there was a Clash between this one and the summer one.


PS:  Are they going to drop the TV title, no mention of it, largely due to
the person holding it (S Steiner).
From: Andy@Birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: The Survivor Series You'll Never See
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:37:24 EST
Reply-To: uunet!tension!birdland!andy
Keywords: Overused angles
Summary: You forgot one
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In article <BxwH3D.K27@news.udel.edu>, Robert Josep Schwabe writes:

> "Hello everyone, this is Mean Gene Okerland with your Survivor Series Report.
> On Thursday November 34th its the Thanksgiving Tradition: The Survivor Series
> This year it will be held in the corners of Robert Schwabe's mind.  Yes,
> ladies and gentle men this is the Survivor Series that you know you'll never
> see:

[ Many matches deleted ]

> 
> In a "No this angle isn't over used" match
> The Natural Disasters vs. The Nasty Boys

And don't forget:

Rick Martel vs. Tatanka

In a "My gimmick is more offensive than yours" match
Yokozuna vs. Nailz

In a "That's what you get for wrestling somewhere else" match
The Clown vs. Saba Simba

In a "This IS as fast as I can move" match
Undertaker vs. The Warlord

In an "I can drink you under the table any day of the week" match
Kerry Von Erich vs. Hacksaw Jim Duggan

In an "I can sell more merchandise than you" match
Hulk Hogan vs. UW

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From: gjh2j@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Im a Joker Im a Smoker Im a Midnight Toker)
Subject: Perfect's "face" turn
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:15:05 GMT

Hopefully Curt Hennig's turn isn't exactly a full one. I remember on Prime
Time he said he didn't like Savage (as all face really like each other 8-) )
but he "respected his abilities." I would personally like to see Hennig 
become even more arrogant, and think he is "Perfect," against heels and
faces....kind of like the failed semi-face turn of Larry Zybysko in WCW.

Unfortunately, I think this is the infamous "Plan C" and Backlund will
make the save

Or it could be a way to get Bobby Heenan down at ringside...seeing
as there is a lack of managers

Jeff Hawkins
From: TAB129@psuvm.psu.edu (Todd Bobenrieth)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: the Torch
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:22:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92321.112243TAB129
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Organization: Penn State University

Send his four reproductive organs to...  The Torch
666 Dopus Drive
Walla Walla, WA 89453
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From: jefft@athena.mit.edu (Jeff Tang)
Subject: Re: Perfect face turn
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:42:54 GMT

In article <BxxA2s.1yA@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp) writes:
     Okay, so Perfect is teaming with Savage, leaving two options

   1) Perfect face turn is for real.  

   2) This is plan C, and Perfect will ambush Savage during the match.

     2 works better.  Savage can get hurt and be forced to take time off (as
   he is going to do).  This would enable Curt to just not tag in, leaving him
   to not take any bumps and risk an injury (also not "wrestle" if there still
   is an insurance threat).

Do angles in the in the WWF ever really get this complex?  I don't recall
any fake turns, heel or face, ever. (of course I'm no expert).  I don't
think Vince expects fans to be able to follow anything this complicated.
--
Jeff Tang
jefft@athena.mit.edu
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From: sgm@sgfb.ssd.ray.com (Steve Myerson)
Subject: Re: Henning to team with Savage ??
Organization: Raytheon Company, Portsmouth, RI
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:43:12 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.151747.6786@HQ.Ileaf.COM> christopher raczka writes:

>Lastly, Now that Savage and Henning are teamed-up, what will they call
>themselves ?? obviously the "Ultimate Maniacs" does not fit them

It's too bad Henning and UW aren't teaming up.

They could be called "Ultimate Perfection",
and it doesn't get any better than that.

Steve Myerson (sgm@sgfb.ssd.ray.com)
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From: phart@heineken.tuc.nrao.edu (Paul O. Hart)
Subject: Re: Wrestling Tapes?
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 17:40:05 GMT

Quoted from dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer)  in <4109.137.uupcb@ssr.com>:
->Herb,
->
->HK>  Dave has mentioned that he wouldn't mind putting together another
->  >  tape, presumably with more current (mostly) Japanese wrestling.
->  >  He'll no doubt post details when he's finished with it.
->
->If people want some older stuff, I can go into the archives and look
->some stuff up.  I would not put in anything past a second generation
->copy though, since it won't copy that well.  I just got the three Tiger
->Mask commercial tapes and the quality on those is fantastic.  And
->looking through my tapes, I found that I had an original of the hair
->match between Chigusa Nagayo and Dump Matsumoto.  I forgot how cool it
->was when Dump hacked up that chicken with he knife.
->
I for one would like to see another tape.  There are lots of great
matches from around the world that I have seen once but would like
to be able to see again.  Please DO make another.
->---
-> . SLMR 2.0 . I [] My Dog. I [] My Cat.
->
What the HELL does that .sig mean?

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From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
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Subject: Re: CoC Results?
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:24:00 GMT
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Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 

Rob,

   >       Next match, Ron Simmons & nameless black (naturally) partner (a sub
   >   for Robbie Walker) v. Barbarian/Atlas/Cactus.  Jesse & Ross emphasized

This guy's name is Charles Skaggs.  He wrestles in Mexico (the UWA) and
for New Japan as Black\Flying Scorpio.  He is really good for a
youngster. He is also Van Vader's best friend in wrestling and is a
Colorado guy.

   >      A solid *** star match between Sting & Rude which went the 20 minute
   >   time limit and Sting won a split decision.  The time limit was no

I disagree.  I though the match stunk.  It put me to sleep.

RTC>   Overall, I give this Clash a "B".  I give this grade not because it was

I give it an F.  There might have been worse overall Clash cards, but
this one has to rate the worst.  WCW needed a home run.  They popped
out.
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From: 910427m@ace.acadiau.ca (JASON MATTHEW MCDONALD)
Subject: Re: Wrestling Challenge
Keywords: Update
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:15:01 GMT

>
>  Bob Backlund wrestles.  Really amazing how someone can do a lot of moves
>and still seem boring.  A lot of amatuer moves (reversals and escapes, nothing
>good like a throw or anything).  Does a firemen's carry (okay, that'S a throw)
>and a chicken wing suplex.  Wins with an amateur move where you hook the guys
>back leg and put in a three quarter nelson turning him over and pinning him.
>It's the same move Barry Horowitz used inthe few matches he won in WCW
>(except Barry would precede it by a thrust kick to make it look like the guy
>should be pinned).  Before and after the match, Backlund shakes the guys
>hand.
>  During the match, Backlund gave an interview.  Heenen said afterwards that
>the cut it short.  He said they left out the end where Backlund said "Thank
>you for listening to me and I'm sorry for being so boring."
>  Backlund was very uninspiring and I hope they don'T give him any belt.  He
>shows how fair wrestling has come (more of a circus, but the moves they do 
>execute are ten times better than those of Backlund's era).
>
>
>Comments: No mention of Bigelow, and I will say again that I don't see how
>Backund can deserve a major push.  No gimick, no charisma, and no Virginia,
>he can't wrestle a good match (by today's standards).
>
>			Fippster 6

I mean no offence to anybody, but Bob Backlund lumbers around the ring like 
he has Downe's Syndrome(sorry about the spelling), and shows no promise of 
being anything other than a commentator after he realizes he won't get 
anywhere in the Whiff.  I apoligize to Mr. Backlund, his fans and any people 
who are sensitive to Downe's Syndrome, but I call'em like I see'em.
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