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From: jje@virtech.uucp (Jeremy J. Epstein)
Subject: Re: Cheap eats
Organization: Virtual Technologies Inc.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:45:20 GMT

Roger.Firestone@f349.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Roger Firestone) writes:

>Cha Gio is at Rte 50 (Arlington Blvd.) and Graham Rd. on the north side of Rte
>50 just west of the intersection.  This is just west of Falls Church.  From the
>Beltway, take the Rte 50 exit eastbound (towards Arlington).  At the 2nd traffic
>light, turn left and then immediately right onto the N service/frontage road. 

Correction: at the 2nd light turn left, and then immediately *left*
into the shopping center.

There's several other southeast Asian places in the same little strip.
Cha Gio is by far the best, IMHO.
-- 
Jeremy Epstein
TRW Systems Division
703-803-4947
uunet!virtech!jje
From: m14430@mwunix.mitre.org (Lawrence Larson)
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Re: Regional Shopping Centers
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:42:06 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

Roger.Firestone@f349.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Roger Firestone) writes:

>Reston will have to come up with some other reason for its feeble shopping
>areas.  I do agree that the regional shopping center concept got to the East
>Coast rather later than other places, beginning out here in maybe the early
>70's--why D-H was so far-sighted is a question I'll leave to the economic
>historians.

Must disagree. At least in New Jersey, the first regional shopping centers
(e.g., Menlo Park, Woodbridge) were built in the early-to-mid 60`s...

-- Larry
Newsgroups: dc.dining
From: tjones@access.digex.com (Tom Jones)
Subject: New Mexican restaurants?
Keywords: sopapillas chile
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: dc
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 05:02:25 GMT

Are there *any* New Mexican restaurants in the area that anybody knows
about?

I've spent the last five years going to college in New Mexico, and
grew quite attached to red and (especially) green chile, sopapillas,
and various other items.  (I also noticed that the food is generally
quite inexpensive there; only about 20% more for a decent sit-down
place than a McDonalds.)

In case you're wondering, New Mexican is distinguished from Mexican by
using red/green chiles instead of jalapenos and combining it with
Native American cooking (sopapillas, eggplant, etc.).

- Tom Jones
  (Not an expert; just an addict.)
Newsgroups: dc.dining
From: rich@grebyn.com (Richard Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Need place to go
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 02:42:12 GMT

In article <c39TRB1w165w@c-cat.UUCP> david@c-cat.UUCP (dave) writes:
>
>Met a new girl recently and are talking of going out.
>
>I am looking for a nice place for a first date. not too cheap not too expensive

Cheesecake Factory. I believe they have one in MD as well, but I know
there's one in DC. Not only do they make about 30 different cheesecakes,
they make fine dinners as well.

Word of warning: go early, be prepared to wait. It is hugely popular.
-- 
Rich Lawrence, Synoptics Systems Engineer	rich@grebyn.com
From: Diane.Mayronne@f999.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Diane Mayronne)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Help Find a Wedding Reception Site
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 01:17:00 -0500

 > We've gotten 2 suggestions thus far:
 > Gunston Hall, Algonkian
 > Park. The park is a little too far out.  We are open
 > to all suggestions/ideas
 > you may have.

Tom, almost all of the historic landmarks are available for wedding receptions. 
I always thought that Colvin Run Mill would be a GREAT place for a wedding
reception.  A friend of mine had an exceptionally fine reception at the old
school house in Great Falls.

Best wishes!!!

8-Diane
From: lizw@cs.umd.edu (Elizabeth White)
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Restaurants in Reston, Va
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:18:05 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742


I'm looking for recommendations for interesting and not too expensive
restaurants in the Reston area.  

Liz White
University of Maryland, College Park
lizw@cs.umd.edu
From: hunter@work.nlm.nih.gov (Larry Hunter)
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Re: paella?
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:29:58 GMT
	<HUNTER.92Sep23143351@work.nlm.nih.gov>
	<92269.114719HERSCH@auvm.american.edu>
Organization: National Library of Medicine



HERSCH@auvm.american.edu says, in response to my post recommending Taberna del
Alabadero's paella:

  This is definitely one of the best restaurants in Washington. However, I
  don't think most people would consider their prices "moderate". I would put
  this place in the expensive to very expensive range. Worth it, though.

OK, so maybe I've eaten in too many REALLY expensive DC restaurants, and my
sense of moderate has been warped.  As I recall, the Paella is the most
expensive thing on TdelA's menu, at a bit under $25/person.  Other entrees are
in the $12-20 neighborhood.  Not cheap, but not in the league of Jean Louis,
Inn at Little Washington, Hisago, most places on K St., etc.  etc. etc.  Now
THOSE places are expensive.

Since the Paella is enormous and delicious, a genuinely great meal for two can
be made from just that (no appetizers or desserts necessary) and a nice bottle
of wine, keeping the bottom line (including tax and tip) well under $100.  OK,
OK, so it's on the high side of moderate :-), but still a good deal for a
massive pile of lobster and other delectibles.

						Larry
--
Lawrence Hunter, PhD.
National Library of Medicine
Bldg. 38A, MS-54
Bethesda. MD 20894
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(301) 496-0673 (fax)
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From: m14430@mwunix.mitre.org (Lawrence Larson)
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Re: Restaurants in Reston, Va
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:41:09 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

rhsu@src.umd.edu (Richard T. Hsu) writes:

>There are also nondescript places like Sizzler and Champions (well, that's in
>Herndon). Hope this helps.

One sad note: many places, including Clyde's, offer distinctly inferior beer
selections in Reston - I don't know why. TBMK, all the other Clyde's,
Georgetown and Tyson's for sure, carry Bass Ale and Guiness on draught. Reston
has nothing decent.

Another strong possibility to be checked out: the successor to Cafe Splendide
(of Dupont Circle, Austrian cafe) is in Reston. I'll post details after I pull
them out of my briefcase, which isn't here...

-- Larry
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From: davida@wam.umd.edu (David Arnold)
Subject: Places in Adams Morgan?
Summary: Where to go
Keywords: ethnic food
Reply-To: davida@syrinx.umd.edu
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: dc
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:30:27 GMT

My wife and I will be staying at the Washington Hilton in a couple
of weeks, which is a hop/skip/jump from Adams Morgan.  We know there
are a plethora of good places to go there, but we'd like to narrow
down our choices.

We're generally interested in Mexican or Chinese, but will try any
decent food once.  The Ethiopian place I knew about closed, so that's
out.  This is for our anniversary, so I'd like to try a fairly decent
place; holes-in-the-wall (like Mixtec) can be great, but I'd like some-
thing a bit more upscale.   If you have suggestions on ethnic places to
go, I'd appreciate them.  I don't read this group much, so please respond
via e-mail.  If I get enough responses, I'll summarize back here.

To keep mail volume down, please send only the three best places you
recommend.

Is there a dc.dining.guide kept anywhere?  A FAQL for this group?

Thanks,
David

davida@syrinx.umd.edu
davida@anagram.umd.edu  (NeXTmail only)
From: nrlfs1.nrl.navy.mil (Judy Karpen)
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Indian food (was Re: Need place to go)
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:16:51 GMT
Organization: NRL

Since I unwittingly started this brouhaha over Maharaja 
(brouhaha? ha ha ha --- for you Firesign Theatre fans out there), I feel
obliged to modify/explain my original statement. I definitely agree with Sunil
about the prices and quality of food at Siddhartha; it's my favorite restaurant 
in the area, especially since it's all vegetarian and has south Indian dishes
(wish I could make idlis as good as theirs, sigh). However, the original posting
asked for suggestions in the Laurel-Bowie area, which to me includes Greenbelt but
not Silver Spring.  Also, he was looking for a place to bring a first date, and
let's face it, the Silver Spring Siddhartha has all the ambience of a high 
school cafeteria. At least it's alot cleaner than their downtown location... 
Anyway, going there on a first date might be chancy. 

On the other hand, I've had a couple of meals at Maharaja that were definitely 
worse than usual --- I think their cook was off on vacation during those times,
not that that's a good excuse for any restaurant. Interesting that you thought
their food was greasier than Siddhartha's; I know several people who refuse to
go back to Siddh. because they claim it's excessively greasy. There's no 
accounting for taste! 

How about starting a new thread --- what is(are) your favorite Indian restaurant(s) in
the area, and why?  Much to my surprise I recently found a very good place in
Annapolis (not worth an extra trip, but if you're there anyway). Think it's called
the Indian Palace but I could be completely wrong. It's near the Statehouse, and 
it appeared to be the only Indian restaurant in town. More opinions, anyone?
BTW, which end of Charles st. is Akbar on? 

Judy Karpen
karpen@nrlfs1.nrl.navy.mil
From: louray@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Panayiotakis)
Subject: Re: Need place to go
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:34:56 GMT

In reference to some guy named David, who wants to know were to take a girl out on their first date. :

	Don't make it a dinner.  Make it (if she's into this kind of sh..) a noon-till-dusk picnic.  There are a lot of parks down in Virginia where you can rent a boat.  My favorite is Riverbend park, less than 20 miles from here, just north of great falls park.  Check it out before you go, and make sure you can row.




"tommorow may be cold beneath the ground. 
 see here how everything leads up to this day, 
and it's just like any other day that's ever been:
sun going up and down..."--Grateful Dead
From: lizw@cs.umd.edu (Elizabeth White)
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Restaurants in Reston, Va
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:14:16 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

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Subject: Res
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: dc
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Keywords: 
From: Edward.Rice@p4214.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Edward Rice)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Restaurants in Reston, Va
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1992 18:12:14 -0500

Elizabeth White said to All: 

  EW> I'm looking for recommendations for interesting and not too expensive
  EW> restaurants in the Reston area.

Mexican: Tortilla Factory

Thai: "Siam" (aka "Little Place Called SIam"), Bangkok West

Japanese: Edoyo (I may have the name wrong, but it's on Elden Street between
          Reston and Herndon, not far from the Tortilla Factory and very
          close to Siam)

Chinese: forget the name, but /roughly/ across Sunset Hills from the Reston 
         "main" post office, 500 yds toward the intersection with Wiehle Ave.

Brown Bag Cafe, in the office building at 1760 Reston Parkway -- lunches only,
          but much better food than the Brown Bag Cafe on Wiehle Ave.  I had a
          turkey sandwich on croissant there three days ago that was excellent.

All of the above are moderate prices, excellent food, and casual/informal.
I think all of them take all major credit cards.

Any specific kind of place you have in mind??

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From: cwechter@cyclone.mitre.org (Christine G. Wechter)
Subject: I don't get out much -- NEED IDEAS !!!
Originator: cwechter@cyclone
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean, VA
Distribution: dc
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 12:03:17 GMT


Hi, I'm planning a gala birthday dinner for a friend.

Would like to go someplace that's FUN, more than just food.

Anybody have any ideas?  Don't want to spend a fortune,
but it doesn't have to be rock bottom cheap.  And if the
atmosphere/entertainment/whatever is terrific but the
food's not the best, that's OK too.

Heard of a Spanish restaurant in the Dupont Circle area that
has dancers, and they do the pouring-wine-down-your-face
thing.  Anybody know which restaurant this is?  Been there?

Thanks!
Christine
cwechter@mitre.org

From: Roger.Firestone@f349.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Roger Firestone)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Regional Shopping Centers
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1992 23:15:00 -0500

ER> When Reston was planned,
ER> however, in the early
ER> Sixties, there wasn't any such thing as a "regional shopping
ER> center."

Sorry to disagree with you, but the first enclosed malls of the type and size
you refer to as regional shopping centers had already opened in the Twin Cities.
 Perhaps you have heard Garrison Keillor refer in some of his "ads" for Bertha's
Kitty Boutique to the "Dales--Mondale, Chippendale, Smithndale,..."?  He is
satirizing the various regional shopping centers of the St. Paul-Minneapolis
area, which began with Southdale in 1960 or so(still in existence and somewhat
larger than it was then) and later included Rosedale, Brookdale, Ridgedale, and
perhaps some others I can't think of.  They were all developments of the
Dayton-Hudson Co., although I believe that they have since been sold off.  I
think they all have a Dayton's as one of the anchor department stores.

Reston will have to come up with some other reason for its feeble shopping
areas.  I do agree that the regional shopping center concept got to the East
Coast rather later than other places, beginning out here in maybe the early
70's--why D-H was so far-sighted is a question I'll leave to the economic
historians.

Roger (Roger.Firestone@f349.n109.z1.fidonet.org)

Newsgroups: dc.dining
From: ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder)
Subject: Re: New Mexican restaurants?
Keywords: sopapillas chile
Organization: U.S. Geological Survey, Reston VA
Distribution: dc
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:59:30 GMT

In article <warnock.718292457@Hypatia> warnock@Hypatia.gsfc.nasa.gov (Archie Warnock) writes:
>tjones@access.digex.com (Tom Jones) writes:
>>Are there *any* New Mexican restaurants in the area that anybody knows
>>about?
>
>I'm kinda fond of Anita's.  [stuff]

There is also Anita's in Burke (not sure exactly where), Chantilly on
Route 50 near Centreville Rd., and in Herndon on Elden St. near the 
Town Hall.

Steve
From: dlee@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Lee)
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Re: Regional Shopping Centers
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:16:35 GMT
Reply-To: dlee@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Lee)
Distribution: dc
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In dc.dining, m14430@mwunix.mitre.org (Lawrence Larson) writes:
Roger.Firestone@f349.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Roger Firestone) writes:

.>Reston will have to come up with some other reason for its feeble shopping
.>areas.  I do agree that the regional shopping center concept got to the East
.>Coast rather later than other places, beginning out here in maybe the early
.>70's--why D-H was so far-sighted is a question I'll leave to the economic
.>historians.

>Must disagree. At least in New Jersey, the first regional shopping centers
>(e.g., Menlo Park, Woodbridge) were built in the early-to-mid 60`s...

I don't understand the comment on Reston's regional shopping center
concept... These "regional" shopping complexes were planned so as to
"contain" the shops which serve the Reston community and was an attempt
to manage commercial development.. This way, the planned community concept,
commercial development was located in certain areas and a mix of different
stores were located together.. These shopping centers in Reston are in
no way comparable to "indoor malls" or large shopping complexes.. They
are spread around the Reston community and blend in with the environment.
My personal opinion is that they are too small to provide the variety
necessary for commercial viability and blend in so well that most non-Reston
shoppers tend not to know/see their locations...

For Reston, the word "regional" means more neighborhood.. close to homes so
that walking is possible, yet built so as to blend into the community..
.
.
.

...
From: Edward.Rice@p4214.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Edward Rice)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Need place to go
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1992 00:13:27 -0500

Richard Lawrence said to All: 

  RL> Cheesecake Factory. I believe they have one in MD as well, but I know
  RL> there's one in DC. Not only do they make about 30 different
  RL> cheesecakes, they make fine dinners as well.

I'm on the way, just from the name... but can one have a real meal there, if
one
is confused and thinks that "a real meal" includes anything other than 
cheesecake?
 
BTW, there's a rest stop on the Garden State Parkway about an hour north of
Atlantic City, and I'd give huge thanks to anybody who can tell me how it got
its name.  It's called "Cheesequake," after either a neighboring town or
township, the county, a local industry, or an industrial accident that took the
lives of seven people in 1948.  Anybody sure which?


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From: rich@grebyn.com (Richard Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Need place to go
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 03:17:03 GMT

In article <718268422.AA00000@blkcat.UUCP> Edward.Rice@p4214.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Edward Rice) writes:
>Richard Lawrence said to All: 
>
>  RL> Cheesecake Factory. I believe they have one in MD as well, but I know
>
>I'm on the way, just from the name... but can one have a real meal there, if
>one
>is confused and thinks that "a real meal" includes anything other than 
>cheesecake?
> 


Yes, they make dinners as well. The Chicken Romano I had was fine..but
of course that was just a warm up for the cheesecake.
-- 
Rich Lawrence, Synoptics Systems Engineer	rich@grebyn.com
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From: edm@verdix.com (Ed Matthews)
Subject: Re: Leesburg Inquiry
Organization: Verdix Corp.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:53:42 GMT

In article <51268@seismo.CSS.GOV> perez@seismo.CSS.GOV (Ricardo L. Perez) writes:
>I was visiting a winery (Willowcroft) this past weekend, and
>they recommended a couple of restaurants in the Lessburg area.
>They are Jordan's (maybe Jourdan's) and the Limeliter (sp).
>Has anyone out there had any experience with these two before
>we go out there?

I have eaten a Jordan's twice and was very pleased with the food.  The
menu is a little eclectic, but everything is fresh and well prepared.
I can wholeheartedly recommend it as a quiet place to have a pleasant
dinner.

Ed
-- 

Ed Matthews                                                edm@verdix.com
Verdix Corporation Headquarters                            (703) 318-5800
Herndon, Virginia
From: M20614@mwvm.mitre.org (Hugh Pritchard)
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Re: Need place to go
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:38:37 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102

In article <c39TRB1w165w@c-cat.UUCP>
david@c-cat.UUCP (dave) writes:
 
>Met a new girl recently and are talking of going out.
 
Well, great!
 
> I am looking for a nice place for a first date. ...                           uppose I am talking about. Or I am open to
> the proximity is the problem, I am looking for somewhere close
> to where we live, Laurel-Bowie area.
 
Try Red Lobster, across from Laurel Mall.
 
**  Hugh Pritchard,  hapritch@mitre.org,  703/883-6616
From: obusek@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brenda Obusek)
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Re: Restaurants in Reston, Va
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:35:22 GMT
Reply-To: obusek@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brenda Obusek)
Distribution: dc
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In dc.dining, dlee@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Lee) writes:
>In dc.dining, rhsu@src.umd.edu (Richard T. Hsu) writes:
>In article <60701@mimsy.umd.edu> lizw@cs.umd.edu (Elizabeth White) writes:
>
>.>I'm looking for recommendations for interesting and not too expensive
>.>restaurants in the Reston area.
>
>>The one place that I want to try that's supposed to be good is Il Cigno, in
>>the Lake Anne Town Center. Italian, food's supposed to be good and reasonably
>>priced, and they have an outdoor patio which faces the Lake Pier. I thought
>>it would be a great place on a nice day...better hurry.
>
>This particular restaurant is just one of many that has occupied this
>location since Reston was founded.. and the view is un-inspiring, to
>say the least.. A better view of Reston lakes can be had from the two
>restaurants at South Lakes Shopping Center.. However, neither restaurant
>is particularly great; but passable..
>

I have also eaten at virtually every restaurant in Reston proper, and
agree with Dave Lee, that there's not a lot to offer. I do enjoy Il
Cigno, however, the food is Northern Italian, which I find rather bland
(that's just personal preference, though, the food is well prepared.).
I will recommend the Jasmine Cafe, however, also located in the Lake
Anne Village Center. It also has an outdoor cafe-style seating area,
with a view of the lake. I've eaten there several times, and have never
been disappointed. I'm not sure how to classify the cuisine - the menu
changes with the seasons, and at times has some southwestern influences,
but is usually kind of french. Don't miss the hot artichoke dip appetizer,
it's enough to make a light meal of. Prices have always been quite
reasonable also - $50-$60 for dinner for two with wine.

Brenda O'Busek                       |     "Today is only yesterday's
obusek@oasys.dt.navy.mil             |      tomorrow"
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From: warnock@Hypatia.gsfc.nasa.gov (Archie Warnock)
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Re: New Mexican restaurants?
Keywords: sopapillas chile
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:40:57 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center

tjones@access.digex.com (Tom Jones) writes:
>Are there *any* New Mexican restaurants in the area that anybody knows
>about?

I'm kinda fond of Anita's.  There are two of them in Vienna, one in
Fairfax and maybe another one.  Actually, there's also one in Santa Fe.
The two in Vienna are right on Rt. 123, about a mile or so apart.  As
you go from Tyson's Corners on 123, the first on is on the left, just
after you get into Vienna proper, the second one (and better one, IMHO)
is on the right, about a mile later, next to a Goodyear (?) tire store.
--
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From: menoldre@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu (SCOTT STAUFFER)
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Re: Restaurants in Reston, Va
Date: 3 Oct 92 00:04:00 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <60701@mimsy.umd.edu>, lizw@cs.umd.edu (Elizabeth White) writes...
> 
>I'm looking for recommendations for interesting and not too expensive
>restaurants in the Reston area.  
> 
>Liz White
>University of Maryland, College Park
>lizw@cs.umd.edu

Fritzbe's is a nice Irish place kind of a bar and restaurant together
they make a real big deal out of St Patty's day and do the whole place
up in green.  It is off of reston parkway but call them for directions.
A GREAT place is called the OUTBACK STEAKHOUSE.  It is done up from down
under and the servers great you with a G-Day and are real outgoing.  This 
one is right on Baron Cameron Avenue.
One more cute place is called UNO's.  It is in the reston town center 
behind the hospital.  Good tasting different style pizzas for one.  Also
get the toasted ravioli (sp).  

Ron Menold II
Virginia Tech


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