HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: pradeep@bkd.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Pradeep Deshpande)
Subject: Re: South asians and conservatism
Reply-To: pradeep@bkd.b11.ingr.com
Organization: ISGS, Intergraph Corporation. Huntsville, AL-35894.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:37:14 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.185646.20943@news2.cis.umn.edu>, prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar) writes:
|> (B Chandrasekaran) writes:

|> >room.  Every move he would make towards the center simply made the
|> >right mad and confirmed its suspicions, so he had to move even more
|> >right on some other issue to pacify them.  In the meantime, the country
|> >was moving left.  It was a losing game.
|> 
|> An incisive analysis.

	Wait a minute. Is that the way we gonna play this game..

	Now, Bill Clinton got 3% fewer popular votes than *Dukakis*. He got 50% 
	votes only one state and that was the small state or the corner grocery
	shop. Isn't fascinating that Dukakis had at least 8 states he could claim
	in that category. The country has not moved anywhere. It's simply the fact
	that less republicans voted. Again, the so called Reagan Democrats voted 
	and a few voted democrat. And many a people voted for the Ross.

|> From a big picture point-of-view, this proves that Americans cannot
|> stand extremes, social or economical. The are happier with a person
|> who present them a credible compromise. The brilliance of Clinton
|> lies in the fact that he understood the megatrends - centrism and
|> economy - and unwaveringly kept the focus on these through times
|> tough and easy.

	Agreed. Bush's campaign was run by a bunch of name calling juveniles
	and the likes of Floyd Brown. As James Carville said the Republican
	convention was one of the most idiotic and the old man was served right 
	by these delinquents and the 700 club. 

|> Satya Prabhakar

-- 
-Pradeep.

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From: ravi@sequoia.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: RE:UN MAP SANS KASHMIR
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:11:20 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: juniper.wpi.edu

(Sareer A Fazili) writes:
|> I suppose that it serves me right for trying top answer a question on this
|> group without first checking on the political correctness of my answer. 


	my friend, forget political correctness... try checking on the
	"correctness" of your answer next time!!!

	as long as you approach the problem from a religious base, you
	are going to encounter fanatics on either side. as a first step
	try defining the problem and the scope of your arguement.


|> of the Kashmiri Paradise. And the thoughts of my relations and friends also
|> come to me as night falls,..I know what is happening to them at every turn.
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^

	one of us is wrong here... i guess in the context, i cannot
	afford humour!

	peace,

	- ravi

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kansal@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Vinay K. Kansal)
Subject: Re: Swearing in
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 05:44:11 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.032956.28026@midway.uchicago.edu> samant@tartarus.uchicago.edu (Tushar Samant) writes:
>Hi,
>
>I have ventured to read soc.culture.indian after a long time. I wanted
>to ask the following: When ministers swear in, in whose name do they
>swear? I know that the word can differ from person to person but I want
>to know something on the lines of
>
>1) Whether any specific Hindu god ever gets named.
>2) Whether the only word used is "God" if the swearing in ceremony
>   is in English.
>3) Whether "Allah" is ever named.
>4) How many times have people not invoked a god. (Sharad Pawar didn't,
>   for example.)
>
>I'd especially like to know about oaths in English and Hindi.
>
>Thanks,
>tushar


Oath is taken in the name of the Constitution of India. No God is ever
mentioned. There is a standard text for the oath which is administered
to all the ministers irrespective of their religious allegiance.
-- 

***********************************************************************
Vinay K. Kansal	  		e-mail : kansal@copper.ucs.indiana.edu
Deptt. of Economics
From: fafat@usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: malgoreisms
Date: 7 Nov 92 00:20:22 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu

Subramani writes:
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From: S.Dharmaraj@newcastle.ac.uk (D. Subramani)
....and continuing on Natrajan's and Fafat's comments on Al Gore lineage,
the  "oldies" hindi film song 

		Oh! Gore gore..
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	I guess this topic has been gored to death by now. But what the heck!
If even the officials that be decide to change our node name to Goretab,I might
as well ... :)

Here are some Goreisms:

Fav. act 	: Cutting the Goredian knot with bare fingores.

Fav. animal     : Gorella (He agrees it's a goretesque animal but believes it
                           is a harbingore of gorate prosperity.)

Motherofallwars : Gorella warfare for liberation of Gorekhaland.

Fav. dance      : Al-gore-rhythm.

Fav. newsgroup  : soc.culture.goregaon.

Fav. war cry    : "Gored up your loins"

Fav. Math topic : Goreier transforms.

Fav. actors     : Gore-oo Dutt, Goregory Peck.

Fav. authors    : TaGore, Maxim Goreky.

Fav. film       : Return of the Goregoyle, Al-Lah Rakha.

Fav. fast food  : Hamburgore (No wonder the goremet politico will be FDA chief)

Fav. adversaries: Bushmen of the Cowlahari desert.

Fav. magazine   : Gorenal of Bill-ionaire Bushinessmen.

Fav. politician : Margoreate Thatcher.

US economy      : A goregantuan problem.

Milli-Gore      : unit of woodenness.

Gore's theorem  : The Bill in hand is worth two in the Bush.


I guess Al Gore is Umrika's answer to our Taulal :)

Al Faftero.

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"Whaddya mean,'you know da boss?'. *I* am da boss"
"Dat's impossible. Bosses is supposed to be smart. It's gotta be a gurl boss"
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From: bala@research.att.com (Bala Krishnamurthy)
Subject: Clinton - Narasimha Rao Chat
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:05:16 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Keywords: Clinton Rao

apnews reports: (edited)
           LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) _ Clinton spoke Wednesday with the 
prime minister of India, P.V. Narasimha Rao.
           Clinton applauded Rao's efforts to bring about economic reform
in India and the leaders joked that both were from the Southern
region of their countries, Stephanopoulos said.
           Rao told Clinton he hoped their relationship could be as
friendly as the ties President Kennedy enjoyed with Indian Prime
Minister Nehru in the early 1960s, and Clinton ``said he hoped so
as well,'' Stephanopoulos said.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: katiyar@prl.dec.com (Dinesh Katiyar)
Subject: Re: Satyajit Ray's movie a top grosser in France ?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Paris Research Laboratory
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 10:22:11 GMT

In article <1drkh5INNgpj@ELVIS.NA.CS.YALE.EDU>, ghosh-bhaskar@cs.yale.edu (Bhaskar Ghosh) writes:
> 
> From The Statesman Weekly of Oct 31, 1992.
> 
> New Delhi, Oct 22. - "Agantuk"(The Stranger) , the last film of
> Satyajit Ray which was released in the French capital, Paris, has
> become the first Indian film to enter the top 10 grossers in the first
> week of its release, reports PTI.
> ...

a local weekly called 'pariscope' lists the top 25 currently playing films
in order of the total "*"s it gets from the critics of 12 leading papers and
magazines, and "agantuk" rates at a very impressive sixth! (it is currently
playing at two cinemas in paris)

dinesh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ghosh@sp2.csrd.uiuc.edu (Sanjoy Ghosh)
Subject: Re: "Southie or Northie?"
Organization: Univ of Illinois, Center for Supercomputing R&D, Urbana, IL
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 02:15:59 GMT

(Srinivas Bettadpur) writes:

>It is much like being complemented in this 
>country on the ability to speak English.  

Which can sometimes work to your advantage.  As when we moved from
Calcutta to Bhopal.  My school insisted that I take a Hindi test to
make sure I was up to par.  The Hindi teacher simply handed me a
question paper during the class.  Taking pity on a bengo from Cal
he chose to go easy on me.  My classmates-to-be also thinking along
similar lines, decided they couldn't let me face it alone.  And I
had the active help of the fellows sitting around me.  Naturally
everybody was amazed when I cracked it pretty good.

And the funny thing is like many Indians here, my formal knowledge
of Hindi grammar was much better than most of my classmates' because
Hindi had been my second language in Calcutta.  When they learnt
that they looked properly aggrieved as if I had misrepresented
myself to them.

>You couldn't make people 
>undestand that being a "Southie" in the North was neither a complement 
>to them or their region, nor was it an insult to you, it was simply 
>irrelevant.

Its like Alice in Wonderland, isn't it?  Words and expressions mean
what the speaker wants them to mean.  And not what they are defined
to mean.

Sanjoy Ghosh
From: scsd1553@altair.selu.edu (Ravi Kallianpur)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Saraswathi alias Sunder Kenkre
Date: 11 Nov 92 12:16:57 -0600
Reply-To: RAVI@SELU.EDU
Organization: C.I.S.S., Southeastern La. University

Hi friends,

	I am trying to locate Sarawathi alias Sunder Kenkre (maiden name); she
was enrolled in University of Texas at Austin, currently working/studying
somewhere in California; any help would be greatly appreciated.  Regards.
 
       __________________________________________________                      
        Ravi Kallianpur	       		                                       
.  
        BITNET :    ravi@slu    Internet :  ravi@selu.edu 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rajain@sml3.ecs.umass.edu (Rajat Jain)
Subject: Re: Indian Tits
Organization: University of M"ass"achusetts, Amherst, MA 
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 18:21:59 GMT

In article <1di5vmINNf6a@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, ravi@sequoia.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov8.033507.9548@cs.brown.edu>, ST402804@brownvm.brown.edu (S.L.) writes:
|> |> |>   Always good to get the matter off your chest.
|> |> 
|> |> >   errrrr.......don't you mean "off your breast(s)" ? ;-)
|> |> 
|> |> >                       Rajat.
|> |> 
|> |>   I agree, I made a weak attempt at subtlety.
|> |>                                               --S.L.
|> 
|> 	now if only we could get you guys off our backs!!!!
                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	now, don't get me wrong, but is this another "weak attempt at 
	subtlety" ?? I mean, you wouldn't be saying "off our ass(es)"
	in the above, would you ? ;-)


|> 
|> 	peace,
|> 
|> 	- ravi
|> 
|> -- 
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|>           end and flames at the other. (C).  :       Suzuki GS500E
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	rAjAt.
From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: RAMAJANMA BHUMI: AYODHYA-New Archaeological Discoveries
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:00:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: menudo.1992Nov9.160022.12187
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston

>I completly agree with you.  So what if Ram was born there, Ram
>was well known for his sacrifices, I am sure he would not mind that
>there is a mosque there now.  The mosque should be removed only
>if the Indian Muslims wish it to be removed, we should not force
>them to do it.  In India Hindus form a vast majority, for a family
>to stay united, it is always the elder brother who has to make
>sacrifices. 
>
>
>Manoj
Cheers! I will not give much inportance to the sacrifice part. It's
simple common sense. If you want the Muslims to acknowledge the glorious
Indian culture and its past why not educate them first about it so that
they themselves will prefer to have a temple there instead of a mosque.
The option being preferred now will surely have the opposite effect of
what intended. How can one have a respect for somebody who does not have
respect for you.
Arindam
From: srik@cs.arizona.edu (Srikanth Raghavan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: No offence to KALPANA's ......
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:49:19 GMT

This is something I recd. by mail. I have not made any changes to the mail
I received, but I believe that this post is filled with "double entendres".
I found it pretty interesting. This Kalpana, "Could it (she) be from Mars?", I
wonder ....

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I got a call from Alan Hill of Data Tech in Phx (998-3200).  They got stuck
with a 15 port Kalpana Etherswitch that they would like to unload for
$8K.  It's 90 days old and was brought in and demo'd by a couple of customers.
He claims it has all 15 ports filled.  We paid $10K for a Kalpana with 7
ports filled 6 months ago.  So basically, the device is wholesale to you
(unless there has been a big market change, but I'm sure you'll check that
first).

Basically the Kalpana is a big multiport ethernet bridge.  Throughput on one
of these large beasties is 80mbits so it can handle a lot of crossconnect
traffic.  We've been happy with ours but your mileage may vary.  We have
a large network of systems located in a small area.  We use the Kalpana
to connect our servers to several backbones of Sun workstations.  No failures
to date.
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This is a funny world we live in. On a tiring day, adopt the following
policy,

See humour in the complicated.

-srik
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: raj@napier.enet.dec.com (Raj Viswanathan)
Subject: MALAI KOFTHA RECIPE
Reply-To: raj@napier.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:19:44 GMT


Hi Can anyone post or send me a recipe for malai koftha?


Rajesh
From: banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Indian Tits
Date: 12 Nov 1992 23:21:31 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: phad.hsc.usc.edu

In article <1dupqeINNk71@bigboote.WPI.EDU> ravi@cs.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan) writes:
>banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee) writes:
>|> 
>While your dog days on SCI may be over and it remains for your systems admin. 
>to haul you off the net by your dog collar for leading a dog's life and coming
>out the loser in several acerbic verbal dog fights.
>
>	nice post. could you please complete the above sentence?
>

If you insist, although I doubt if you might not have figured it out yourself.
Anyway the "and" in the first line of the sentence was a typo. Here is the
corrected sentence for those Nimmalaesque enough not to spot the difference: 

>While your dog days on SCI may be over, it remains for your systems admin. 
>to haul you off the net by your dog collar for leading a dog's life and coming
>out the loser in several acerbic verbal dog fights.



Samit





>	thank you,
>
>	- ravi
>
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Date: Fri,  6 Nov 1992 16:47:39 -0500 
From: "Manu S. Kumar" <mk5a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Indian E-mail and Networks


Hi Netters,

            I want to compile all the info I can on e-mail and networks
to and from India. Send me all you got!!


                                                    Manu Kumar
                                                    (sneaker)
_____________________________________________________________________________
Class of 1992,Modern School,Barakhamba Road,New Delhi...MHS is the best!!
Freshman, Carnegie Mellon University, Electrical and Computer Engineering.
Campus Address: A-306 Hamerschalg House, Margaret Morrison St., Mail Box 
#4532, Pittsburgh,PA 15213,Tel(fax):(412)-268-4322,Email:mk5a@andrew.cmu.edu
Home Address: 13-A, Amrita Shergill Marg, New Delhi 110 003, India, 
Tel : (91-11)-611-624, (91-11)-462-6629, Fax : (91-181)-778-27
_____________________________________________________________________________
Sorry, no snazzy e-mail quotes!!
From: ravi@sequoia.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: sridhar and wpi
Date: 7 Nov 1992 20:10:22 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: juniper.wpi.edu

In article <1dh5iqINNc8h@aludra.usc.edu>, fafat@usc.edu (Vijay Fafat) writes:
|> From: ravi@sequoia.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
|> 
|> |>      Confoosion, Ravi, Confoosion. Sridhar is not gagging your right to
|> |> speech. He's just being humane to other netters and giving them a way of
|> |> exercising their right to NOT hear :)
|> 
|> 
|> 	uggh!!! i hate to get into these logic-kinda wars but
|> 	what the hell!!! where above my dear man do you read me
|> 	as saying that "sridhar is gagging my right to speech"?
|> 	all assumptions/connections you make based on my mention
|> 	of copernicus, are your own! ;-) and hey what about my
|> 	right to be heard??? not to mention my right against
|> 	censorship! ;-)
|> 
|> And where above, my dear man, do you read me as imputing to you the statement
|> about gagging? hee hee :), I *love* these logic-kinda wars :) and your right 

	uggh!!! don't you see how useless this is! all i need to
	say now is where above do you read me as saying that you
	imputed to me the line above!!!! i am outa this war!!!
	good ol' self-righteous mr.net-policeman sridhar is more
	fun to argue with!

|> to be heard? Sure, I read every article of yours, if that's a consolation :).
|> But I like Sridhar's output better :)

	well i guess if we are measuring output as the quality
	of crud posted (which is i guess the only way to measure
	my own posts!), i must admit that sridhar is way way
	ahead of me!

|> Not that you would succeed, anyway. I have great faith in Sridhar's 
|> capabilities.

	it is not sridhar's capabilities or lack of such that i
	wish to humour, but rather the limitations of the
	operating system (and its utilities) (though still way
	ahead of dos) that acts as a soapbox, so to say, for
	his preaching, that attracts my attention!

|> And shame on you. 3 guys versus one. Is that what parents 
|> teaching you, telling me??

	versus? i am at a loss to understand how you acquired
	the notion that i am arguing "against" him! "educating"
	is how i would describe my woeful endeavours.

	peace,

	- ravi

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From: bharat@ccvax.ucd.ie
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Shukria....
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:49:29 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

Mere sathion,

Mera Adaab, 

Chand roj pahale maine ek chhota sa khat yahan likha tha badale
me mujhhe do zawab mile. Tareef aur hausala afzai ke liye bahut bahut 
shukria. Mai bhi soch raha tha ki is mithee, painee, aur nazakat bhari
zuban urdu me aisi kya khami hai. Waise dastoor-e-wilayat to yahi hai ke us 
zuban me bat karo jise sabhi samajhh sake... nahi to har mulk ki
alhada zuban hai. Par khabhi khabhi dastoor todane me koi burayi nahi. 
phir urdu ka zayaka to aur bhi namkeen hai. Mere sathion, urdu se mera bada 
purana dostana hai, bas kaushishe kiya karata hun, yedi kuchh ajeeb-o-gareeb
sa zumla yahan mile to nazar andaz kar dena.  

galib bhi kya khoob arz kar gaye-

unke dekhe se jo a jati hai chehere pe raunak,
woh samajhhate hai ke beemar ka hal achchha hai.

waqt ka takaza hai, zikra chala to phir hazir hounga.
waqt ke liye shukria. Izazat chahata hun. 

Khuda hafiz,

-vibgyor the Pindari,

gustakhi muaf -
mujhhe maloom hai ki is khat ke tarzume ke liye zaroor mujhh koi likhega ;-)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: rps@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (raj.sharma)
Subject: Interested in India or Indian Culture? [A must read book]
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 00:43:25 GMT
Followup-To: poster

	Arrow of the Blue-Skinned God
	(Retracing the Ramayana Through India)
	
		by
		
	Jonah Blank
	
	Houghton Mifflin Company, New York, 1992.
	
	ISBN 0-395-56267-8
	
	[An excellent book]
	
	
---raj
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 18:10:39 EST
From: Arvind K. Mathur <AMATHUR@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: The indian constitution


    I was under the impression that sikhism was an offshootof hinduism and till
recently when all the khalistan problems started, I personally never thought
that a sikh was any differrent from a hindu or vice versa. Perhaps the constitu
tion was based on the same premise.
Arvind
From: rangana@cs.uwindsor.ca (RANGANATHAN A            )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Cawnpore, Nagpore, AND JABALPORE
Date: 12 Nov 1992 15:27:05 GMT
Organization: University of Windsor, Ontario, Canada

In article <45476@ogicse.ogi.edu> partha@mse.cse.ogi.edu (R. Parthasarathy) writes:
>Partha sarathy
>
>NB: See a movie called "The Deceivers".. It stars a famous English actor
							^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 Its Pierce Brosnon.
Anyway he used to be in the series Remington Steele.

Glad to help,


Arathi


-- 
See simplicity in the complicated
	- Lao Tzu

From: sharma@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Sandeep Sharma (temp))
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:48:32 GMT
Subject: On lookout for Vivek Khanna 
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian


Hi!

If anyone knows the whereabouts of Vivek Khanna or his wife
Anuradha , can s/he inform me ?
They did their MS Civil from Oklahama last year .

thanks,
Sandeep
sharma@fc.hp.com   303-229-3423(w) 303-223-9350(h)


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian