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From: spencer@bow.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Audience Comments During Movies
Date: 28 Jul 92 04:21:27 GMT
Reply-To: spencer@phoenix.princeton.edu (S. Spencer Sun)
Organization: Live Organ Transplants

In the right context, they can be downright hilarious... I was watching
Flatliners with a friend (millionth time for me, it was showing at the
theater where I worked, as a service employee back then; first time for
him).  The scene was the afternoon before Joe Hurley flatlines... he
calls his girlfriend up after popping in a tape of their engagement
party, remember?  Well while he's looking for that tape among the huge
stacks he has with girls' names on them (by now we've figured out what he
really uses his camera for the most), someone (total audience of around
8, in a house of 200 or so) shouted approvingly "Way to go JOE!" and the
other 7 of us found it immensely hilarious.

But university film society showings are probably the best setting for
this sort of thing :-)

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From: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: TERMINATOR II
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:27:57 GMT
Reply-To: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)

tedk@jpl.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Ted Ko) writes...

> I think that's the first time I've heard anyone say they really disliked T2.
> Personally, I put it in my top ten of all time.  What about it was so bad
> that it deserves comparison with Highlander 2?

   Neither of them has much of a plot to speak of. T2 was saved by
special effects and superbly staged action sequences, H2 was not. I
would say T2 is in my top 10 "movies for sheer entertainment" list
(along with Star Wars, Day of the Dead, Evil Dead etc), but way way down
in my "really great film" list (Vertigo, It's a Wonderful Life, Citizen
Kane, Bicycle Thiefs, Kind Hearts and Coronets etc) if you see what I mean.

  Such is the odd personality traits one picks up from studying Film &
Television at university.

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From: jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: TERMINATOR II
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:04:48 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:

>Well, for starters, they could have explained why oh why the T1000 was able
>to go back in time in a machine that only allows living things to pass
>through.
[...]

In "The Terminator", when asked why he didn't bring a decent, 2029-vintage
weapon to 1984 to fight the Terminator, Reese replied something to the effect
that field distortion caused by transporting a living organism prevented him
from bringing luggage (so to speak). No mention was made of anything other
than the *combination* being verboten.

The implication was that completely nonliving cargo is transportable by itself. T
There is also a reference to the fact that the complete envelopment of the
metal by the Terminator's living tissue is OK. Plot conveniences? Sure; you
gotta have *some*, right?
                                                    - JAM
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From: wales@cs.ucla.edu (Rich Wales)
Subject: Beauty and the Beast -- glitchy opening scene?
Organization: UCLA CS Department, Los Angeles
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 06:27:45 GMT

We finally got a chance to see _Beauty and the Beast_ last weekend.

It was great.  Just to mention one example, the "overhead pan" part
of the ballroom dancing scene looked, for a second or two, almost as
if they had photographed real people dancing.

Anyway, the reason I'm posting is this.  The very first scene of the
movie (before the "Bonjour!" musical number) seemed to my wife and me
to be "choppy".  Almost as if they didn't draw enough frames per sec-
ond, or something like that.  No distortion of the music; the problem
was purely visual.  And the rest of the film was fine -- it was just
the very beginning that had this problem, and it cleared itself up
within half a minute or less.

Maybe this was just some kind of problem with the print or equipment
at the theater we went to (Alondra 6, near Cerritos, CA -- southeast
Los Angeles area).  Did anyone else notice any glitch of this kind in
the very beginning of the movie?  If so, I wonder why Disney let this
kind of thing happen.  If not, I guess it was just a local problem.

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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: t2 in b&w?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 16:52:38 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.1489.24697@channel1>, eric.walker@channel1.com (eric walker) writes:
>      Am I seeing something that isn't there - or is Cameron
> playing tricks on audiences, and paying tribute to the
> great black-and-white movies of old?

This brings up another thing I like about T2.  Sure, I hear from
all the "experts" and "purists" about how wonderful T1 was, and
I agree it was.  But the photography in T2 is just great to look
at.  The mood it conveys, such as in the scene with the first
appearance of the T1000, and the first encounter of the two 
terminators in the mall -- great.  There's something about Cameron's
films that make them watchable over and over and even in small
pieces, several scenes at a time, in or out of sequence, and still
vastly enjoyable.  The action shots are great, but even without them,
there's a density of the movies where something significant is happening
that is interesting and entertaining at all times.  Sure, that's
the point of editing, but it's like playing guitar -- if it was
easy, everyone would do it well.  Wait a minute!  It's like
everything!  Never mind.

GMS
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From: dtschett@scott.skidmore.edu (donna tschetter)
Subject: Current Release Posters!!
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:57:16 GMT

For information on obtaining movie posters for Prelude to a Kiss,
Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and other current releases e-mail to me and
I will send information.

Donna :>
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From: spencer@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun)
Subject: Unintentionally hilarious movies
Reply-To: spencer@phoenix.princeton.edu (S. Spencer Sun)
Organization: Live Organ Transplants
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:43:13 GMT

A couple of friends and I watched "Life Force" last night on TV (side
note, how old is this movie?  One of my roommates said he'd heard of it
when it was in theaters but I don't remember it at all)... for those of
you who saw it last night (or have seen it before and actually remember
it)... you know the scene where they have the "girl from the park"
hooked up to the heart scanner device (or whatever that was), with
electrodes stuck to her head?  And when her 2 hours have elapsed, she
starts going into convulsions, presumably trying to find more life force
to suck up?

Did anyone besides me find this scene incredibly hilarious?  I'm not
sure exactly what I found so funny about it, although if I had to take a
stab at it, I'd mention how bad the movie as a whole had been up until
that point (and after it too, but anyway), and the incredibly SERIOUS
looks on everyone's eyes as they stare at this absurd-looking body
jerking up and down on the operating table.

I guess this is another one of those movies that falls into the category
of being so bad that it's funny... (I have yet to see Killer Tomatoes
:-) )

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knowledge become a horror?"
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Subject: RE: James Bond Trivia
From: pitzel@brandonu.ca
Date: 23 Jul 92 13:18:57 CST
Organization: Brandon University, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

Trivia question for all you James Bond buffs out there.  My husband and I are
having a disagreement about two Bond movies.  I say that the movie "Moonraker"
came out cira 1978 (approximately), and before the movie "Never Say Never
Again" cira 1985 (approximately) with Sean Connery.  He says that NSNA came out
in the 1960-1970's, BEFORE "Moonraker".  We have twenty dollars riding on this,
and any documented proof of either theory (ie. actual movie book listing), can
be sent to me via e-mail.

Thanks alot!

Diane Pitzel
Brandon University
From: howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John Howells)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: HG WELLS MOVIES
Date: 31 Jul 92 13:01:00 GMT
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035

djohn@maths.tcd.ie (Derek John) writes:


<   I wonder if anybody out here has a list of films made out of hgwell's
<short stories?I have seen afew,Namely: The time machine,the magic shop,
<The truth about pyecraft and a few others.Can anybody tell me if any more
<have been made?

One of the best is "The Man Who Could Work Miracles" (1936 or 1937).
Great film!

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From: smc@hotsc.att.com (Steven M. Casagrande)
Subject: Re: Lifeforce (was Re: Unintentionally hilarious movies)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Holmdel, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:04:09 GMT

>In article <1992Jul22.184313.15882@Princeton.EDU> spencer@phoenix.Princeton.EDU
>(S. Spencer Sun) writes:
>>A couple of friends and I watched "Life Force" last night on TV (side
>>note, how old is this movie?  One of my roommates said he'd heard of it
>>when it was in theaters but I don't remember it at all)... 

This was one of the first THX movies I saw.  The THX promo/demo was
the best thing about that performance.

At least Rosanne Barr wasn't playing the lead Vampire.  ;-)

Steve Casagrande
smc@hotsc.att.com

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From: clamen@CS.CMU.EDU (Stewart Clamen)
Subject: Europa 
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 00:27:50 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Reply-To: clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU
Originator: clamen@BYRON.SP.CS.CMU.EDU


This past weekend, on a visit to Toronto, I saw a European movie
(really a German-Danish-Swedish-French movie filmed in Poland) called
_EUROPA_.  It concerns a German-American who goes to work in Germany
in the Allied occupation period following WWII.

I was wondering what opinions the r.a.movies readership had concerning
this movie.

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From: matt@cray.com (Matthew Marchese)
Subject: Re: Audience Comments During Movies
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: 29 Jul 92 06:49:07 CDT

During "Howard the Duck" (Yes, I PAID to see it in a theatre...)when the
cops are examining the obvious midget-in-a-suit and one of the cops says,
"I can't see the zipper!" someone a few rows back stood up and yelled,
"You're just not looking hard enough!". On the way out of the theatre 
I overheard a little girl tell her mom, "Mommy, that movie really sucked!"

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From: jayc@hubcap.clemson.edu (Jay Crawford)
Subject: Re: Fried Green Tomatoes
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:45:52 GMT

haapamak@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi writes:




>        Hi!

>        Who wrote the original novel that Fried Green
>        Tomatoes is based on ??

>       Thanks, Hanna

  
I believe the author is Fanny Flagg.
-- 
Jay Crawford          
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Organization: Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:14:49 -0400 
From: "Kenneth E. Mohnkern" <km2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Bill Forsyth and Housekeeping
	<1992Jul20.105613.13978@husc3.harvard.edu>

On 20-Jul-92 in Bill Forsyth and Housekeeping
user Sharon Fenick@husc10.har writes:
>>[someone's looking for Housekeeping]
>	I know it's out on video too, because I've recently been on a Bill
>Forsyth hunt - a largely unsucessful one, because the real point of my search
>is _Comfort and Joy_ which I can't find anywhere.  Does anyone know if it's
>out or not?  Should I just stop calling places? 

I saw Comfort and Joy on tape. It's there. Keep looking.

Good luck,
    ken


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              # carnegie mellon university # pittsburgh pa #
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From: M Maxwell
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Lifeforce (was Re: Unintentionally hilarious movies)
Date: 22 Jul 1992 21:44:17 GMT
Organization: UC San Diego
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: irpsws80.ucsd.edu

In article <1992Jul22.184313.15882@Princeton.EDU> spencer@phoenix.Princeton.EDU
(S. Spencer Sun) writes:
>A couple of friends and I watched "Life Force" last night on TV (side
>note, how old is this movie?  One of my roommates said he'd heard of it
>when it was in theaters but I don't remember it at all)... 

It came out in 1985, i think.  (Side note: it was directed by Toby
Hooper, the man who brought us 'The Texas Chainsaw Massacre'.)  I saw it
on a multi theatre hop in the local cineplex odious (4.25 movies over
8 hours and i still didn't get my money's worth).

(stuff deleted)

>I guess this is another one of those movies that falls into the category
>of being so bad that it's funny... (I have yet to see Killer Tomatoes
>:-) )

You _haven't_ seen 'Attack of the Killer Tomatoes'?  You must.  It is
an absolute classic of _baad cinema_.

(.sig deleted)

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mmaxwell@ucsd.edu

Hey you kids!  Don't touch that, it's ART! 

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From: eng20015@nusunix3.nus.sg (GOH KING SHY)
Subject: Dr. Strangelove
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 06:51:22 GMT

-jinx.
From: j_elison@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Elison)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:43:08 GMT
Subject: Re: New Stallone Movie (was: MGM )
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies

> In article <1992Jul23.005958.25192@cs.ucla.edu> reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:
> >....  Carolco has two films shooting - "Charlie" and a Sylvester
> >Stallone film about mountain climbing whose title I forget.)  
> 
> I believe the Stallone film is currently called "Cliffhanger", with
> Renny Harlin directing.  I saw Harlin interviewed the other day, who
> said that there was as much action in the opening scene of this film,
> as there was in the whole of Die hard 2.  
> 
> They are currently filming in Italy, and I understand Stallone was
> injured on set sometime in the last week or so.
> 
> 	Jarod

Yeah, and a couple of the best rock climbers in the world are acting
as doubles for Stallone.  Should make for some incredible REAL climbing
scenes.

Mort
From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: TERMINATOR II
Date: 31 Jul 92 09:34:00 GMT
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna

From article <1992Jul24.221441.10776@cbnewse.cb.att.com>, by gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart):
> Sort of like seeing a movie and suspending disbelief for some aspect
> and then enjoying it anyway.
 
There's no such thing as complete suspension of disbelief, and any
little pseudo-technical justification helps.
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From: adam@zooid.guild.org (Adam Lawrence Salter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: I want info on "Jeffrey Norton" Publishers, NY, NY
Date: 29 Jul 92 00:42:30 GMT


  I KNOW THIS IS THE WRONG GROUP FOR THIS! But so many people read this group
;->.

 
  Does anyone know anything about what is or used to be Jeffrey Norton 
Publishers in New York? I mean phone number, address (email address?), etc. 
 
 
  Please reply by *E-mail* to adam@zooid.guild.org as I DON'T read this group!

 
 
                                                                        adam 
 
 
     "Thank-you vera much." 
 
 
                           -Elvis 

adam@zooid.guild.org
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From: dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge)
Subject: Re: Tetsuo: The Iron Man
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 02:59:19 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.191401.3377@wam.umd.edu> yep@wam.umd.edu (--!!HEY!!--) writes:
>
>The DC area is hosting a limited one week engagement of a Japanese/
>animated/live/black&white movie called, "Tetsuo: The Iron Man"
>
>from what i've heard it's a very violent and oddball of a film.

Yes, it is.

>anyone heard of it?

I saw it at the D.C. premiere a few months ago (where the director made
an appearance).

>worth seeing?

Sure, if you like violent oddball films. If this is the same print that
came around earlier then there won't be any subtitles (though the theater
may give out a sheet with the English dialogue on it). There isn't much
dialogue anyway so this isn't too much of a problem.

Basically it's about a man who's got a "metal fetish", and another man
who sort of gets "infected" by the metal guy. REALLY strange. There are
some fairly nasty gore scenes (in B&W) -- not for the timid.

As far as the sequel goes (Tetsuo II: The Body Hammer), I missed the
D.C. showing of this, but the director said it wasn't nearly as violent,
and I've read it supposedly has more of a plot. He said that even if
you're put off by Tetsuo you should still see Tetsuo II (or rather that's
what his interpreter says he said).

                                           -Dave Dodge/dododge@wam.umd.edu
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From: hafner@ifi.unizh.ch (Michel Hafner)
Subject: Re: American cinema (was Re: RASPUTIN)
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 21:39:12 GMT

In article <2552@nlsun1.oracle.nl> gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley) writes:
>   You may argue that I will have seen more American films than any
>other nation's, and that is true. But I do see a lot of foreign films
>too (about 1 subtitled film per 2 English language film) and I must say
>the America "crud ratio" is higher by far than any other country. Note
>that that was ratio, and has nothing to do with volume.

But the pool your foreign movies are coming from has already been preselected
in favour of "good" foreign movies, no? And this makes your ratio doubtful.
								M.H.
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From: jpenovic@wizard.Berkeley.EDU (Jan Penovich)
Subject: Re: Casablanca rerelease poster
Reply-To: jpenovic@encore.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 12:24:07 GMT

Sorry to post this reply, but everytime I tried email, it
bounced back with the following message:

>>> RCPT To:<traveler@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu>
<<< 550 <traveler@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu>... User unknown: Address already in use

> 
> 	well, after months of rumors and anticipation, I saw Casablanca
> on the big screen on June 27.  Had to go 70 miles to Boca Raton,
> though--not a single theatre in Miami picked it up!  (Not too
> surprising, given the huge die-off of art houses in Miami in the
> last few years, but it proves again that we are NOT a real center
> of culture yet).

  You could have gone a little closer to home.  It was playing
  in Broward at the Fox Sunrise. The Fox always has a foreign or
  reissued classic film.  I saw Othello there a few months ago.

> 	The flick was as good as ever; it lifted me out of my depression
> that evening, reinspired me to be a screen writer, and reminded
> me of humanity's genuine goodness.  SOunds corny, I know, but
> hey, that's what a good movie should do...and if it can do it to
> an intellectual skeptic like myself, it's really good.

  I agree. I was pretty surprised, because I went during the
  week and thought my husband and I would be the only ones in
  the theater.  But it was fairly full up.

  (Do believe that even in a classic old movie like this,
  there were a couple of people who did not shut up through
  about half of it until I turned around and told them to be
  quiet.)

> 	My question to the net at large: ANyone know where I can get
> a copy of the Casablanca 50th Anniversary Rerelease poster?
> Any leads will be greatly appreciated!

  Please let me know if you find out how to get one.  I
  thought it was a great poster too.

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