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From: shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung)
Subject: Re: Tournament Results, Sunday, Nov 8 (SPOILERS)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:06:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.140413.47369@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.013436.1893@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>, shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (s
>hun.cheung) writes:
>>Oakland:
>>  Seles d. Navratilova: 6-3, 6-4

>Can you give any details of the match?  How was each player doing?  Was
>Martina able to get to the net?  Was Seles over-powering?  Was Seles hitting
>the angles and the corners?  Was Martina's head in the game?

Unfortunately, not from me. At where I live, the Seles-Navratilova
match was shown on SCA, a premium sports channel. I can hear the
audio fine but the video is all scramblemd. I switched to SCA once
in a while just to see the progress of this match when I was watching
the Becker-Forget match. I think Martina broke Seles first in the
first set but Seles broke back twice.
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-- Shun Cheung,    electronic: shun.cheung@att.com    voice: (908) 615-5135
     HR 1A-304, AT&T Bell Labs, 480 Red Hill Road, Middletown, NJ, 07748 USA
From: arijeet@lorelei.ece.drexel.edu (Arijit Das)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: pro-tennis broadcast
Date: 13 Nov 92 05:08:18 GMT
Organization: Drexel University, Philadelphia PA


In article <6659@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu> mliu@spica.ucsb.edu (Liu) writes:
>I am sure I am not the only one in the country who feels that
>the coverage of pro-tennis in the media is less than satisfactory.
>

I can't agree with you more, my tennis is very much affected by
how much of it I watch on TV. I seem to run out of ideas, and just taping
stuff is not interesting after sometime. 

I do try to watch other people play at Univ. of Penn courts but
that dosen't seem to help unless the team is practicing, somehow 
having lived in the West coast I feel there is far more tennis talent
out there than here on the east (except Florida).
---
arijit
From: mliu@garden.csc.calpoly.edu (Mei-Ling L. Liu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Paris QF Update
Date: 7 Nov 92 02:36:03 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Cal Poly SLO

In article <73920@hydra.gatech.EDU> cs30@prism.gatech.EDU (SMITH,CHRISTOPHER G) writes:
>
>Forget(11) d. Edberg(3)    6-7 7-6 6-3
I am crushed.  I had hoped to see Edberg play on TV this weekend.  I
just learnt that he actually was up 7-5 and 5-1 before things turned
around.  Could this be the same guy who won the U.S. Open recently?
What happened?
It's just as well, I didn't think he was going to beat Becker and
especially not Ivanisevic.  Well, may be Goran is going to go up
higher in the ranking after all.
However, I think Edberg has passed Sampras as a result of getting
into the quarterfinal?
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~  his first match point, before he hit the volley behind you,~
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From: csmith@cc.gatech.edu (Christopher Smith)
Subject: Late News & Notes (Nov 13) + Policy
Organization: Software Research Center, Georgia Tech
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 23:06:50 GMT


Couple of Today's Late Results:

  + Antwerp: Courier(1) d. Forget(8)     three sets
  + Philly : Sanchez Vic.(3) d. Zvereva  6-2 6-1


Notes:

  Forget doesn't perform well enough to qualify for the ATP
  Championships in Frankfurt... that means the lineup for the
  tournament is just as Shun has posted earlier.

  In Philadelphia, the Capriati/McNeil QF match is to be
  decided... the winner will face Graf(1) in one SF match.
  The other SF match will feature Sabatini(2) vs. Sanchez
  Vicario(3).

--

A word about my posting policy: I try as hard as possible not to
duplicate results that are already posted on the net, but as Shun
as said, duplication is sometimes unavoidable.  For instance, I
sometimes don't receive Gess's posts for days after he posts them,
even though we both post from Georgia sites.

I know how hard it is to get current info, which is why I try to
give as much up-to-date news as I can, outside of my job.  If
people disapprove of any "waste of bandwidth," please voice
disapproval over e-mail or the net so we'll know.  Otherwise,
my assumption is that most or all of the net finds the info
useful and that the group isn't "overflowing" with info (yet).

..Chris

-- 
Christopher Smith                          csmith@cc.gatech.edu
College of Computing (Room 269)                                  
Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332-0280        404/853-0937
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
From: mmmirash@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mandar M. Mirashi)
Subject: Re: Becker routs Ivanisevic!!!
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 01:39:51 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

In article <1992Nov13.164557.26335@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> ratte@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de (  Cordula Reineke  ) writes:
>
>>I am a diehard fan of Lendl,Edberg,and Becker(in the order I stated).
>>This time I am all for Becker since I want him to be able to qualify
>>for the ATP Championship. I would like to watch another 5 sets
>>Becker-Lendl final match again and only this time the netcord goes
>>for Lendl's favor:-)
>>
>Sorry, but no, no, no!
>To see Becker in a 5-set-final is okay to me, but if so, then against
>Sampras and with Sampras winning and defending his title and points.
>Poor Petie has had hard times recently, so wouldn't it be nice to watch
>him having another great success... ?
>
>Cordula
>

Both of you pitting your favourites against Becker?  

Well......I say Becker will win, no matter who it is, Lendl or Sampras
or Mr. X! And I doubt if it will be a 5 setter.   :)

What time is it? It's BOOM BOOM time!  :)

                                    From a diehard Becker fan. 
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From: Gess Shankar <gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Tournament Update: November 9 pm
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 21:51:58 EST
Organization: Knowledge Exchange, GA, US of A

$1.1 MILLION EUROPEAN COMMUNITY CHAMPIONSHIP
AT ANTWERP, BELGIUM
MONDAY'S RESULTS  
FIRST ROUND
-----------
Michael Chang (3) d. Alexander Volkov, 6-3,6-7 (2-7), 6-3
Richard Krajicek (6) d. Wally Masur, 6-3,4-6,6-2
Javier Sanchez d. Brad Gilbert, 4-6,6-4,6-4
Todd Woodbridge d. Stefano Pescosolido, 7-5,6-0
Mark Woodforde d. Francisco Clavet, 7-6 (8-6), 2-6,6-2

Jim Courier is the top seed in this tournament. Agassi withdrew from 
this tournament, apparently due to injury suffered during the Paris Indoor.

:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

Steffi Graf and Gabriela Sabatini of Argentina are the top seeds 
in the $350,000 Virginia Slims of Philadelphia Tennis Championship 
starting tonight. Arantxa Sanchez is #3 and Jennifer Capriati #4.
 
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From: roberto@dcs.gla.ac.uk (roberto)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Edberg
Date: 9 Nov 92 10:48:52 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.
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Shun Cheung (shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com) writes:

| In any case, giving up a 7-6, 5-1 lead with two match points is quite
| incredable.

Indeed it is incredable, especially given his opponent (Forget) is not 
exactly known as a mentally tough player. 

I have NOT seen this match, but I read that, on top this 5-1 lead (2 breaks), 
Edberg was also 5-0 ahead in the tie-break! 

Also, that Forget said that before his comeback, he was thinking of what he 
would tell in the interview!

Roberto Barros 

PS- Shun, even though you tried to keep the distribution to the USA, your 
    article arrived here in the UK.
From: jlim@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Jimmy Lim)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Hopman Cup Draws
Date: 6 Nov 92 07:40:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: uniwa.1dd7hrINNqgo
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au

In case none of you realise, the Hopman Cup is a mixed team event held
here in Perth, Western Australia. The next Hopman Cup is from the 2nd to
8th January 1993. The total prize money is OZ$ 800,000.

The teams in seeded order are as follows:

(1)	GERMANY			Michael Stich, Steffi Graf
(2)	CZEKOSLOVAKIA		Petr Korda, Jana Navotna
(3)	SPAIN			Emilio & Arantxa Sanchez
(4)	USA			MaliVai Washington, Mary Joe Fernandez
(5)	FRANCE			Guy Forget, Nathalie Tauziat
(6)	SWITZERLAND		Jakob Hlasek, Manuela Maleeva-Fragniere
(7)	SOUTH AFRICA		Wayne Ferreira, Amanda Coetzer
(8)	AUSTRIA			Thomas Muster, Judith Wiesner

Unseeded teams:

UNIFIED TEAM	Andrei Medvedev, Natalia Medvedeva
AUSTRALIA	Wally Masur, Nicole Provis
ISRAEL		Amos Mansdorf, Anna Smashnova
JAPAN		Yasufumi Yamamoto, Kimiko Date

The first 4 seeds have byes in the first round. The first round draw is
as follows:

South Africa (7) vs Australia
Switzerland (6) vs Japan
Austria (8) vs Unified Team
France (5) vs Israel

I will be at the tornament in the first two days provided I can return
from Singapore on time. Anyway, if I can't be there, I will get someone
to report the news.
From: babyface@idacrd.UUCP (Lewis E. Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Top Spin and Slice Shots
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:26:21 GMT
Organization: idacrd, princeton, nj

Top Spin and Slice Shots are weapons that one must process in his or her
arsenal.  knowing when and how to use these weapons are something of
mystery to most players.  Top spin keeps the ball rotation in foreward
motion thus enabling the player to keep the ball in play.  When to use
top spin well in all of your shoots.  Remember the low to high motion
with slight twist in the wrist action.  Slice is generally used in the
backhand, with the same low to high motion with slight twist of the
wrist.  This causes the ball to rotate in backward motion thus causing
a floating affect.  When to use a slice shot,when your opponent is
behind the baseline.
From: jpt@telecaster.think.com (James P. Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: I am personally disappointed in the quality of the posts
Date: 9 Nov 92 09:12:18
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com


I know I can kill what I don't want to read.  I know you have the freedom
to post anything you like.  But really, are you turned on by writing
"my player is better than your player -- nah, nah!!"???  

I must admit I am completely baffled by someone being a fan of player X.  I
don't even know what that means.  But this is, of course, MHO.  No, I don't
root for a specific player.  Yes, I find some more "attractive" than
others.  But, I have no desire to share these fairly simplistic feelings
with other people, particularly on the net.  

My concern is that this glut of simple-minded posts will force out more
thoughtful or informative posts [e.g., like mine :-)].  

With all the ranting about players personalities [or what people assume
them to be - I do know some of the players that people write about here,
and they are nothing like what they are portrayed by the press or the
posters] there has been painful little discussion about THE TENNIS.

Tennis fans, at least I thought, were fans of the game because we played
the game now, not in some distant past life.  Hockey fans route for a team
because it is by some coincidence in your backyard.  Ditto for other
sports.  But tennis players are interesting, again all of this is IMHO,
because of how they play; what they can teach us about our games.

The number of informative posts has become a very minor fraction of the
total number of posts. Some posters have to be given credit for trying.  In
particular, clin@eng.umd and palmer@uvmark, are always trying to inform us.
 Ditto for those who post tournament results.  

Please, those of you who have something to say about the tennis, please
keep posting.  

jim taylor Thinking Machines Corp Cambridge MA USA
	   Asst Tennis and Squash Coach MIT

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From: fkhurshe@cs.ulowell.edu ()
Subject: re: service
Organization: U. Mass. at Lowell
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:42:02 GMT




>Ivan Lendl used it (once) in a match back
>in the early 80's.  

Chang hit an under hand serve in the semis of the French
Open he won. I think his oponent was Lendl
From: cs30@prism.gatech.EDU (Christopher G. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Oakland, Nov 5
Date: 6 Nov 92 12:55:24 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


Seles(1) d. Rehe         6-4 6-1
Shriver d. Garrison(8)   2-6 6-4 7-5
Fendick d. Schultz       6-4 6-4
Zvereva d. Meskhi        4-6 7-6 7-6

..Chris


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Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: WTA Women's Money Leaders: November 8th
From: CS19242663X@LUST.LATROBE.EDU.AU (MASINSKAS, ILZE)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:55:25 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <1992Nov11.122756.125350@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu writes:

> In article <1992Nov10.134904.16994@cs.wayne.edu>, faa@athena.cs.wayne.edu (Felic
> itas A. Atabong) writes:
> >In article <gate.as6ZTB1w165w@knex.Gwinnett.COM> gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM writes:
> >>WOMEN'S TENNIS LEADING MONEY WINNERS
> >>       (THROUGH NOVEMBER 8TH)
> >>
> >>10. Larisa Savchenko        $366,602
> >>
> >Who is she?? I didn't find her name in the top 50.
> >
> From former Soviet Union - I don't remember if she is now from Russia or maybe
> Latvia.  Pretty good doubles player which is most likely a good part of her
> earnings.
> -- 
> 


I saw her play down here at the Australian Open, as Larisa Savchenko-Neiland,
playing for Latvia, I think she had married a Latvian.


Ilze
--
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cs19242663x@lust1.latrobe.edu.au    or
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
From: zhangl@qucdnee.ee.queensu.ca
Subject: Becker's coach
Organization: Queen's University EE Department
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:47:03 GMT

Becker's coach is Gunther Bresnik, current Austrian Davis Cup captain who blew
out Canada from World Group last September.           Lin
From: gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: RE: IVANISEVIC'S BOASTING
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:23:41 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <3354.318.uupcb@brent.uucp>, jeff.kling@brent.uucp (Jeff Kling) write
s:
>-> 3. This is what bugs me the most: Because he is Croatian, he's
>-> got a group of flag-waving Croatian entourage cheering wildly for
>-> him at important matches.  It's as if he's out there fighting
>-> against the world for his country, which is actually engaged in a
>-> brutal (civil) war.  I don't like to see flag-waving except at
>-> Davis-Cup
>-> matches, and maybe not even that.
>
>He brings a lot of attention to his country in this way, which is good,
>because they will be needing help to rebuild after the fighting and
>support in the interim.  So, he really is fighting for his country and
>it's image and the legitimacy of their struggle.
>
>I assume that you have read the article on him that was in Tennis mag a
>while back.  The fellow's having quite a rough time of it.  A lot of his
>peers are being shot and killed as you read this.  Perhaps even his
>friends.  I don't like the way he wins too much with the serve alone but
>I do admire him for going on the way he does, considering what is
>happening to his country.  If he wasn't out there in the public light
>and keeping his country's struggle in it the way he does, we would find
>it quite all too easy to forget it's going on - and I think that makes
>it worth it in the long run.
>
Let's also remember that some citizens are just more vocal with their national
pride.  As Americans we tend to focus our loyalty on smaller groups (athletic
teams, lodges, clubs) rather than on the larger whole that is our country.
Goran comes from another area where travel between countries is much easier.
Hence, Europeans have an edge on languages on Americans.

I don't want to digress this from tennis.  Yes, Goran can shoot his mouth off
and I don't particularly like his style of play.  But he is a national hero,
many of his countrywomen and countrymen are proud of the attention he can
bring their country.  And I'm sure he feels that pressure (not unlike the
pressure the German media puts on Becker and Graf).  Just walk a mile in his
shoes.  We as Americans take much for granted that some citizens of European
countries are just starting to have.
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From: cobra@chopin.udel.edu (KING COBRA)
Subject: Re: Becker's serve
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:24:07 GMT

In article <JPT.92Nov9091559@telecaster.think.com> jpt@telecaster.think.com (James P. Taylor) writes:
>
>Does anyone know if he has a new coach??
>
  He is still being coached by Ian Tiriac (SP??).


>
>jim taylor Thinking Machines Corp Cambridge MA
>	   Asst Tennis and Squash Coach MIT






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From: gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Tournament Results, Sunday, Nov 8 (SPOILERS)
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:04:13 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Nov9.013436.1893@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>, shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (s
hun.cheung) writes:
>Paris Open:
>  Becker d. Forget: 7-6, 6-3, 3-6, 6-3
>
>Boris played really well. I think he qualifies for the ATP
>Championship now.
>
>
>Oakland:
>  Seles d. Navratilova: 6-3, 6-4
>--
>-- Shun Cheung,    electronic: shun.cheung@att.com    voice: (908) 615-5135
>     HR 1A-304, AT&T Bell Labs, 480 Red Hill Road, Middletown, NJ, 07748 USA
>
Can you give any details of the match?  How was each player doing?  Was
Martina able to get to the net?  Was Seles over-powering?  Was Seles hitting
the angles and the corners?  Was Martina's head in the game?
-- 

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From: Gess Shankar <gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Tournament Update
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 20:27:48 EST
Organization: Knowledge Exchange, GA, US of A

$1.1 MILLION EUROPEAN COMMUNITY CHAMPIONSHIP
AT ANTWERP, BELGIUM
FRIDAY'S RESULTS  
QUARTERFINALS
-------------
Jim Courier (1) d. Guy Forget (8), 6-7 (4-7), 6-4,6-4
Michael Chang (2) d. Michael Stich, 6-3,6-4
Richard Krajicek (6) d. Petr Korda (3), 3-6,6-1,7-6 (9-7)
Mark Woodforde d. Magnus Larsson, 6-0,7-6 (7-2)
 
Jim Courier will take on Richard Karjicek in the Semis.
Chang will play Woodforde.

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From: gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: ATP Men's Money Leaders: November 8th
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 06:48:40 EST

MEN'S TENNIS LEADING MONEY WINNERS 
   (THROUGH NOVEMBER 8TH)

 1. Jim Courier       $1,613,385
 2. Stefan Edberg     $1,561,804
 3. Pete Sampras      $1,275,087
 4. Goran Ivanisevic  $1,138,241
 5. Andre Agassi      $1,027,834
 6. Petr Korda          $961,053
 7. Boris Becker        $953,687
 8. Michael Chang       $808,167
 9. Ivan Lendl          $744,366
10. Guy Forget          $700,187
 
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From: jonas@beor.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Josef Nelissen)
Subject: Paris Thursday results
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date:  6 Nov 92 07:02:47 GMT

Jim Courier(1) d. Michael Stich(16) 7:6 6:1
Boris Becker(9) d. Brad Gilbert 6:2 6:2
Stefan Edberg(3) d. Derrick Rostagno 7:6 7:6
Guy Forget(11) d. Arnaud Boetsch 6:2 6:4
David Wheaton d. Alexander Volkov(14) 7:5 6:4
Goran Ivanisevic(6) d. Richard Krajicek(12) 6:4 7:6
Jakob Hlasek d. Jim Grabb 4:6 6:1 6:2
Henri Leconte d. Wally Masur 6:4 7:6

QF

(PLEASE NOTE that (except the first match) this is only a *guess*
based on the sequence the games were presented at my source of information!!!)

Courier v. Becker
Edberg v. Forget
Wheaton v. Ivanisevic
Hlasek v. Leconte

-- 
Josef Nelissen, Lehrstuhl fuer Angewandte Mathematik, insbesondere Informatik,
RWTH-Aachen, Ahornstr. 55, W-5100 Aachen, Germany, Tel. +49 241/80-21060,
FAX +49 241/80-21079, e-mail jonas@beor.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
* To know everything would be impractical. The access time would be enormous. *
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From: hayase@physics.ucla.edu (Hayase, Colleen)
Subject: Re: Why would some racquets be more powerful th
Reply-To: hayase@physics.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Department of Physics
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 23:44:35 GMT

I'm not sure that extra weight is added to the head of wide-body racquets. 
Some actually feel lighter and more manueverable than the conventional
models. I thought making the head wider provided a more stable hitting
surface, especially since the increased width is along the same direction 
of the motion of the racquet during the swing. This might be why wide-
bodies are stiffer than conventional-width racquets.


Colleen