HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dawson@willard.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Modem_w/FAX_CallerID_LCD_Display_up_to_16800cps
Date: 29 Jul 92 02:46:19 GMT
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

sp@questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Steve Pershing) writes:

> Sorry to offend you, but the ZyXEL is a good modem, and was not purchased und
> any "sysop program".  It does not "stink"... it works.  Here, it works far
> better than my T2500 when connecting to my feed site.

Words, man, just stinkin' words.  Don't take me so literally.  I'm sure it's
a great modem.  Perhaps you'd like to 'splain a bit further why it does better.
And, how is this impacted by configuration of your Waffle site.  That's the
sort of stuff that Waffle operators are interested in seeing.  Seeing HERE
on the newsgroup.  Hyperbole and nonspecific allegations of better performance
are worthless.

> We are simply trying to make a good, relatively inexpensive modem more widely
> known, and at the same time to make a token (around 10% and less) profit to
> help upgrade this site.

Once again ... what in the <insert placename of eternal punishment> does this
have to do with Waffle?  <sounds of confused reader rummaging about for his
copy of the stinkin' newsgroup charter...>

> 
> --
>        Steve Pershing, System Administrator, The QUESTOR Project
>   Offering FREE access to Sci, Med, & AIDS news, and more.  [also UUCP]
>        on a ZyXEL-1496S v.42bis, v.32bis, v.33, up to 16,800bps.
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-- 
   Willard Dawson
     Just a humble little nobody
       Who just happens to own a decent modem
         And who isn't gonna put it in his stinkin' sig
           Because he doesn't think
             Anyone else really cares!!!
   Dammit.
From: cybrspc!wwiv!52-500@cs.umn.edu (system#freds.cojones.com (George W. Hayduke) #52 @500)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: v1.65
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 21:19:19 GMT

841-503@wwiv.cojones.com (murph#buscard.fidonet.org (Brian Murphy) #841 @503) writes:

> 2.  What are you doing for security on your system?  Suppose you don't like
>     some geek and want to keep him off your system for some reason.  In
>     my FidoNet days, QuickBBS had a call-back verifier that worked pretty 
>     well where someone would have to get a new phone number to get back 
>     on the system.  Since I usually only have trouble with teenaged kids,
>     their parents weren't about to change their number for that kid so I
>     was safe until the kid finally grew up.  How can I do something like
>     this with Waffle?

I just keep my system so infinitely confusing that only the people I care to
show around will find their way.

Much nicer this way. I can always log on locally without having to boot
anyone off first.


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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Implementing VT100 and Ansi menus
From: Pat Cain <cain_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 17:37:44 +1200
Reply-To: cain_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Followup-To: cain_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: who cares.

system: DOS based 1.65.  Please reply via e-mail.

I have been mucking around with trying to get an ANSI menu system going.
What I really want to know is whether there is a faster or better way
of doing it than I'm doing it now, currently:

        TERM vt100   --   mono (vt100) ansi menus
        TERM ansi    --   colour ansi menus
        TERM none    --   plain ascii menus


Currently a batch file is run when each user logs in.

o a temporary file is created in waffle/menus called current.__?
  where ? is the first letter (a = ansi, v = vt100, n = none).
o if user has selected ANSI emulation then rename *.ansi to *.
  etc.


Current problems:
  o ansi escape sequences echoed all over the place -- installation of
    most ansi drivers makes no difference.  Currently screen writes
    in Waffle are direct, so I guess video: bios or whatever may help.

  o the startup process is a bit slow (second or two to run this
    batch file).



waffle/extern/_system:
login   /shell /command="globwaf %A %t"

waffle/bin/globwaf.bat:
@echo off
e:
cd \waffle\menus

rem If last used emulation == emulation user wants then stop.
if exist current.__%2 goto stop

rem If last used emulation == ansi then ren *. => *.ans then setup new em.
if exist current.__a  goto ansi

rem If last used emulation == vt100 then ren *. => *.ans then setup new em.
if exist current.__v  goto vt100

rem If last used emulation == none then ren *. => *.ans then setup new em.
if exist current.__n  goto none

echo Error: Could not find CURRENT terminal setting file, please let sysop know.
goto stop

:ansi
if exist current.__%2 goto stop
ren *. *.ans
ren *.%2 *.
del current.__a
rem > current.__%2
goto stop

:vt100
ren *. *.vt1
ren *.%2 *.
del current.__v
rem > current.__%2
goto stop

:none
ren *. *.non
ren *.%2 *.
del current.__n
rem > current.__%2

:stop
echo TERM=%2

Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: rick@ssg.com (Rick Emerson)
Subject: Re: Mail server sw for Waffle?
Organization: System Support Group
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 11:12:35 GMT

cybrspc!wwiv!52-500@cs.umn.edu (system#freds.cojones.com (George W. Hay writes:

> 
> 801-503@wwiv.cojones.com (rick#ssg.com (Rick Emerson) #801 @503) writes:
> 
> > Look into VMS.  It's a little awkward to set up but it works for the users.
> 
> Oof. You've never used VMS, I can tell. No better way to ruin a perfectly
> good VAX than with that horrid operating system. You're obviously not playing
> with a full DEC...
> 
> (a thousand pardons, but I just couldn't resist....:-)
> 

ROFL!

I dunno... RSTS/E had its novel features.  Y'know... things like major
functions written in a rather byzantine BASIC.  

Wreck ...er... Rick <g>


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From: zot@toz.buffalo.ny.us (Chris Boebel)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Wafmail? Wafmail? Wafmail?
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:39:05 GMT
Organization: The Tower of Zot - (716)691-3865

Is there (or will there be) a version of wafmail that handles the changes 
made from 1.64 to 1.65? Specifically, does it handle email?

Thanks
Chris

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From: elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: my $0.02 on the WFS license...
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 07:27:10 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS, New Orleans, LA

I've been reading posts on this subject with some interest.  While I agree that
an author of a program has the right to do with it whatever he wants, I also
have the right not to use it.  I can remember when Ashton-Tate put their
30-year clause into the license of dBASE III+, saying that your right to use
their program only lasted thirty years.  I found this offensive not so much
because I was seriously worried about being stuck using dBASE thirty years from
now, but because such a license insulted my intelligence as both a consultant
and a consumer.  I feel the same way at the moment about the WFS license.
Threats like these are silly and insult my intelligence.  I'll grant everyone
that $17 is a reasonable price for the software, just as Ashton-Tate's price
for dBASE seemed reasonable when I bought it.  However, when someone takes such
a cynical view of their customers, it's time for me to find an alternative.  I
did it with dbxl, and I'll probably do the same with mail servers.

Now, the issue of some sort of time bomb in the code is a bit different.  I
think that this needs to be clearly addressed.  No way I'm going to use
anything that has even a remote possiblity of bombing on me and causing
problems for my system.  The catch with this issue is that this is the stuff
rumors are made of.  If it's true, then this product is useless.  If it's not,
it's still damned for the moment because of the accusation.  In any case, this
situation is similar to many others:  it's just plain easier to blow off this
product and find another less troublesome.




>Edward J. Branley         elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us<
>Seashell Software, Metairie, LA            +1-504-455-5087<
From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: beta10
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 13:58:53 CDT
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

aaron@spectrx.saigon.com (Aaron Anderer - System) writes:

> I just got beta 10 and installed it.  Looks a lot like beta 9, I can't notice
> any differences.  Tom what are the differences?

Might I make a suggestion?  I unpack the new beta onto a floppy, and
then diff the two docs directories.  Usually exposes some information.

The biggest difference I noticed is that the control and errors files
are not garbaged any more.
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               "I never could get the hang of Thursdays."
                                              -- Arthur Dent
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Waffle v1.65?  Where is it?  8-o
From: cvafyshb@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Date: 22 Jul 92 04:31:15 PST
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-User: cvafyshb

I have read all this 'bout Waffle v1.65, the version I have is 1.64...being the
type of person (As I'm sure most of us are!) that likes to keep on top of
things as far as versions go, is version 1.65 RELEASED?  I haven't been able to
locate this version... I suspect it is not available to the public?  If it is
still in beta, and not open to the public, how is it coming along?

(Send replies duped to email address as I can't check in here all that often
and have forwarding on to get it to me quick like :)


Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: FSE for waffle ?
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 15:53:03 GMT

rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt) writes:

>Ralph Sims <ralphs@remote.halcyon.com> writes:

>| mvdl@et.tudelft.nl writes:

>| > (BTW: I recently wrote a utility to convert all *.XQT and .DAT files create
>| > by Fredgate and Waffle as outgoing mail, to 'incoming' .X and .D files
>| 
>| Here's a way 4DOS users can do it...

>Yes, but what good is it?  I'm sure I missed something somewhere...

Say you want to gate newsgroups to echomail and so you create a system
for waffle to send the groups to for processing by a gateway program.
These files are .x and .d files, scheduled for outbound mailing.

However, you want these newsgroups to be turned in to echomail, as well,
perhaps because you run a dual-format system (as I do).  I don't trust
Fredgate's ability to pack and unpack inbound .dat files and scan them
for the required gated newsgroups, hence my batching them to a dummy
system.  Fredgate then needs .d and .x files to work with (operating
it in non-Waffle mode, remember).  This is one use for the routine.

Damn!  I wish erin did news!  Hey, bheess!  Stop watchin das blinken
lights and get mit das programming, ya?

(apologies to the Katzenjammer kids)

D
D
D
Damn!  I wish erin did news!  Hey Heess!
-- 

-- 
halcyon.com - fee-based public-access Internet site; send email to
info@remote.halcyon.com, or call +1 206 426 9298 (live and Memorex)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: rick@ssg.com (Rick Emerson)
Subject: Re: Waffle/Coherent?
Organization: System Support Group
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:05:39 GMT

elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) writes:

> aaron@spectrx.saigon.com (Aaron Anderer - System) writes:
> > elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) writes:
> > > Was wondering if anyone has successfully compiled/installed/run Waffle un
> > > Mark Williams Coherent?
> >
> > The only way waffle could be compiled under coherent, is to do so under
> > coherent 4.0, since that is a 386 version and gets rid of the 64kcode+64kda
> > thing that the 286/coherent "small memory model version" loved so much.
> >
> Well, I'm aware of that, so I guess I'm still wondering if anyone has *done*
> it.  Coherent isn't a bad idea, since it's a hundred dollar investment, but
> another $150 for Waffle isn't such a good idea until I can confirm that someo
> has tried it.
> 

Why not use Linux or 386BSD?  The price is right (free!) and both are large
model systems.  I prefer Linux but if you want or need TCP/IP, go with
386BSD.

Linux comes in several variants; I recommend either mcc-interim.0.96c or the
tamu variant of mcc (it includes X11R5 tuned for Linux).  Look on
TSX-11.mit.edu for mcc-interim and sc.tamu.edu for the version with XWS.  

Rick


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From: ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle File Server
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 22:02:29 PDT
Organization: Ian Justman's pitiful excuse for an AT clone

larry@Birdsong.Suvl.CA.US (Lawrence T. Hardiman) writes:

> Let's remind all of us, Vince, that you waxed poetic about WFS at
> release 0.9.4.


Well, Larry, it would seem that the honeymoon is over.
From: aaron@spectrx.saigon.com (Aaron Anderer - System)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle/Coherent?
Keywords: coherent
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:58:32 GMT
Organization: SPECTROX SYSTEMS (408)252-1005 Silicon Valley, Ca

elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) writes:

> Was wondering if anyone has successfully compiled/installed/run Waffle under
> Mark Williams Coherent?
> 

The only way waffle could be compiled under coherent, is to do so under
coherent 4.0, since that is a 386 version and gets rid of the 64kcode+64kdata 
thing that the 286/coherent "small memory model version" loved so much.

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From: cybrspc!wwiv!52-500@cs.umn.edu (system#freds.cojones.com (George W. Hayduke) #52 @500)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: 1.65 folder problem....
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 13:23:45 GMT

65-503@wwiv.cojones.com (frampton#vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton) #65 @503) writes:

> I think the folder is great.  I'd rather have 10 folders scattered about 
> than have 200 messages to wade through!

eek. Who has time to go thru my 700+ mail messages and figure out how to
folderize them, and see what I don't even need? I don't.

> (some dated months ago) but this addition is the greatest invention since 
> sliced cheese (even moreso than bread!) :-)

I'm still waiting for the bread slices to be individually wrapped.

On another note, where does one find the Chrome beast?


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From: system@micromed.com (Duane Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: (DOS) how to remove deleted file entries -
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 21:26:21 PDT
Organization: Micro-Medic  - +1 408 279 5240 - Public Access

jaf@jaflrn.UUCP (Jon Freivald) writes:
> uuxqt
> batch
> echo y | c:\command /c del f:\news\junk\*.*
> rd f:\news\junk
> md f:\news\junk
> c:\waffle\bin\expire
> 
> P.S. - the "echo y | c:\command...." bit is because I use 4DOS and MS-DOS's
> "del *.*" works a lot faster than 4DOS's.  (Just about the *ONLY* advantage
> I've found to command.com!)


Try changing it to just

    del f:\news\junk\*

News files have no extention so all you need is the single wildcard, and
DOS won't ask for a confirmation.



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From: larry@Birdsong.Suvl.CA.US (Lawrence T. Hardiman)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle File Server
Date: 28 Jul 92 04:03:08 GMT
Reply-To: "Lawrence T. Hardiman" <larry@Birdsong.Suvl.CA.US>
Organization: The Birdsong Company, PO Box 2031, Sunnyvale CA 94087-2031

brewich!donal@lobster.hou.tx.us (Donal) writes:

> ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman) writes:
> 
> > vince@halcyon.com (Vince Skahan) writes:
> > 
> > > nobody in their right mind would sign anything like the garbage
> > > that came with WFS112.zip.
> 
> [...much dense and idiotic verbage removed...]
> 
> Larry? I love WFS, and hope you continue to improve and expand the 
> product, and others.

Thank you, Donal, and thanks for comming to my defense.

Regards,
  larry.

--
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From: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: A /dev/nul simulation in DOS Waffle.
Keywords: dos waffle 1.65 beta 9
Date: 26 Jul 92 21:31:15 GMT
Reply-To: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Vicuna Systems, Kingston, ON (613) 547-5066

Hi again:

I have a strange need to have a /dev/nul "simulator" here on my DOS 
Waffle.  When mail arrives for 'dev_nul', I would like to simply discard 
the incoming message.

I have tried a few things, all to no avail.  Here are some of the things 
I have placed in my /waffle/system/aliases file:

dev_nul         | type nul     {to just discard things}
   This works, but unfortunately I get an 'error 2' spawn for 'type'.

dev_nul         | echo Discarded...   {to inform of discarding}
   Same situation as above.

dev_nul         > nul
   Didn't work at all.

I'm sure you get the idea, based on the lines above.  Has anyone 
successfully created a /dev/nul simulator on their DOS Waffle boxes?

Please respond via e-mail, I don't really think others would benefit from 
this, but I'll consider following up with a summary based on replies 
received.

Thanks in advance.

----------------------------------------------------
frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
Vicuna Systems BBS - 613/547-5066 [9600 v.32/.42bis]
From: rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Budi Rahardjo)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: V-MailServer port to unix ?????/
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:10:53 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada

vince@halcyon.com (Vince Skahan) writes:
...
>I'd like to see if it's possible to port it to
>linux, since I've yet to find a unix mail-based-file-server
>with the functionality of VMS122.

There are several mail-based-file-server for UNIX. Some are written in
shell scripts, perl, C, etc. It is posted regularly on news.answers,
look for 'Subject: Mail Archive Server (MAS) software list'


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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: A /dev/nul simulation in DOS Waffle.
Keywords: dos waffle 1.65 beta 9
From: Jochen Erwied <mack@joker.wes.open.de>
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 06:08:33 CST
Organization: Creative Chaos Computing - Mailbox: +49-281-52975 (22.00-08.00)

frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton) writes:

> frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton) writes:
> 
> >  [...] "I want to discard mail..." [...]
> 
> Bob Kirkpatrick (root@dogear.spk.wa.us) came up with a simple yet elegant 
> solution for my problem:
> 
> In the 'aliases' file:
> dev_nul		| post dev_nul

Why don't you do it a lot simpler? Add a line to your aliases-file like

dev_nul    = nul (or /dev/nul, if you like)

and that's it... Works for 1.65.

> ----------------------------------------------------
> frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
> Vicuna Systems BBS - 613/547-5066 [9600 v.32/.42bis]

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: paul@actrix.gen.nz (Paul Gillingwater)
Subject: Re: Waffle/Coherent?
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 03:45:52 GMT
Keywords: coherent

In article <0ZL0NB2w165w@spectrx.saigon.com> aaron@spectrx.saigon.com (Aaron Anderer - System) writes:
> elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) writes:
> 
> > Was wondering if anyone has successfully compiled/installed/run Waffle under
> > Mark Williams Coherent?
> > 
> 
> The only way waffle could be compiled under coherent, is to do so under
> coherent 4.0, since that is a 386 version and gets rid of the 64kcode+64kdata 
> thing that the 286/coherent "small memory model version" loved so much.

I have Waffle UNIX sources (paid for, yes!) and have ordered
Coherent 4.0.  That's one of the first programs I intend to
compile!
-- 
Paul Gillingwater, paul@actrix.gen.nz
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: waffle 'mirror' site
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:38:06 GMT

kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle) writes:

>Ralph Sims <ralphs@remote.halcyon.com> writes:

>> I've 'mirrored' remote.halcyon.com's /public download directory
>> onto halcyon.com.  The two sites now maintain the same file

>I'm curious as to how you have implimented this 'mirror'. The idea
>of having two Waffle sites, one a Mac AU/X and one a DOS PC, with
>mirrored files areas is something a neighbor of mine brought up.

It's not a true 'mirror' in the strictest sense.  The files on
remote.halcyon.com reside on a DOS box, running Waffle (and a
few other goodies).  I use DSZ and upload to the UNIX site only
those files not on the UNIX box (dsz sz -n *.*).  I then upload
the @files (00-index.txt).  Hence, the UNIX box contains the
same files.  Unfortunately, I'm running out of room on my
files partition on the UNIX machine and needed to take off
some of the non-Waffle-specific files (DSZ, 4DOS, etc.).  I'll
be re-arranging things as I can.

I have around 225 entries in the /dirs file on the Unix
machine and things get a little unwieldy at times.  We
currently NFS mount the download partitions from wuarchive
and zeus.iee.org, as well as gatekeeper.dec.com.  Trying
to keep track of wuarchive's directories is a lesson in
frustration, at times.