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Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #97
Date: 15 Apr 92 01:27:31 GMT
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Info-Mac Digest             Tue, 14 Apr 92       Volume 10 : Issue 97 

Today's Topics:

      [*] AutoDoubler "Ignore" ResE
      [*] Lemur 2.0
      [*] mac-chase-219.hqx
      [*] Ping version 1.0 - with source !
      [*] TeleFinder/User 2.62
      [*] TidBITS#119/13-Apr-92
      (Q) Apple 13" Color monitor on a Classic?
      (Q) Virtual memory
      .PCX, .BMP file conversion (Q)
      24-bit-screens
      512K SIMMs from IIsi
      512k simms on SE (Q)
      Accelerate LC (Q)
      AGENDA (from Lotus)
      Apollo 0.8 conflicts?
      Apollo Crashes
      bad shutdown(hardware?)
      Bigger picture
      Classic II as an AppleShare File Server
      Compuserve Internet address
      Coprocessor error
      counting word occurrences
      Cryptic Error Messages
      Custom Icons (Q)
      Demon Dial 1.11 (R)
      Different LW drivers on a net (A)
      Effect of 16 bit LC bus on LC accelleration
      Finder Bus Error??? (R)
      FSTA-Help
      Generation Systems Removable HD (Q)
      How to avoid multiple installations (C)
      Icon Surprise
      Info-Mac files via BITNET
      INFOCOM Games Help and Availability [Q]
      JPEG (Q)
      LISTSERV File Xfer
      Mac Like BBS Software (Q)
      MacZone discount
      Mail order Macintosh [Q]
      Network software
      nothing -> tabs
      Novy Quick30 4.99 (Latest patch.)
      OnCue...
      Open Files and Folders
      PowerBook Internal 9600 Modems (q)
      PowerBook Screen Savers
      programmers key
      ProtoTyper Help
      Quicktime availability
      Remote Access aliases: need internal info (Q)
      Sys 7 Tuneup 1.1 vs 1.1.1 (
      Tune-Up Problems
      Tune-Ups (Q) Again
      TuneUp
      Where are MacDraw/PICT electronic symbols? (Q)
      White Knight
      Word Frequency Counter (R)

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Date: 13 Apr 92 19:44 GMT
From: ENDPOINT@AppleLink.Apple.COM (ENDPOINT! Mktg Info Sys, M Cobb,PAS)
Subject: [*] AutoDoubler "Ignore" ResE

Attn:   o Info-Mac Digest
Attn: Lloyd Chambers, Salient
Attn: Dr. John Rootenburg, IMIT
Attn: Ned Soltz, Lazer Expressions
SentBy: Robert Hess

                       Subject:                               Time:12:29 PM
  OFFICE MEMO          AutoDoubler "Ignore" ResEdit Template  Date:4/13/92
WARNING: Everything you are about to read is conjecture based upon my own
investigation of the AutoDoubler file. NOTHING has been confirmed through
Salient. They are in no way connected to this file, nor do they endorse it.
Additionally, I in no way warranty this file. USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK. WORK
ONLY
ON BACKUPS.

This file can be considered part of an article being submitted to TidBITS for
later publication.

AutoDoubler "Ignore" Template for ResEdit
=========================================

This ResEdit template will let you open the ACMP resource of your AutoDoubler
file. The ACMP resource stores the type and creator for files which
AutoDoubler
will ignore when performing automatic compression.

Copy this template and paste it into AutoDoubler. Select "Save" from the
"File"
menu. Now open the ACMP resource. You will see a series of paired
type/creators
representing the types of files which AutoDoubler will ignore. As you would
expect, these pairs generally match to compression programs (like StuffIt,
Compact Pro, etc.). When AutoDoubler finds a file which matches a file
type/creator found in the ACMP resource, it ignores this file, assuming that
it
is already compressed.

You may add to this list by scrolling down to the bottom of the list, clicking
once on the five asterisks, going to the resource menu and selecting "Insert
New
Fields". This will create two new fields in which you may enter the file type
and file creator which you wish AutoDoubler to ignore.

When you see "****" as a file type, this means "all files of the type above
regardless of what application created them". Therefore, "LWFN" matched with
"****" means "all outline laser fonts regardless of what application created
them".

I will release an application soon which will let you modify these resources
easier (without ResEdit) by seeing the actual application name that matches a
file creator. Additionally, you'll be able to edit the applications to which
AutoDoubler hands files explicitly; that is, those applications which are
passed
files in compressed, rather than natural/decompressed form.

There will also be some other surprises. ;)

Robert Hess
Internet: rhessjr@west.darkside.com -OR- 74660.612@compuserve.com
CompuServe: 74660,612
America Online: RHessJr
AppleLink: ENDPOINT

[Archived as /info-mac/tech/auto-doubler-ignore-template.hqx; 6K]

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 14:28:14 -0500
From: William Walker <walker@cs.uiuc.edu>
Subject: [*] Lemur 2.0

This is the README file for Lemur 2.0 from the CERL Sound Group.

Lemur was written by Kelly Fitz and Bill Walker at the University of
Illinois CERL Sound Group.

Lemur is based on MQAN, a tool written by Rob Maher and Jim Beauchamp
at the Computer Music Project of the University of Illinois School of Music.

Lemur is a sinusoidal analysis and synthesis program based on the
McAulay-Quatieri technique. It analyzes AIFF sample files to produce
an intermediate representation (a Lemur analysis file), and uses these analysis
files to synthesize AIFF sample files. Time scaling, frequency scaling, and
frequency shifting are possible.

If you obtain Lemur, please send electronic mail to k-fitz@uiuc.edu or
walker@cs.uiuc.edu. We would appreciate hearing from you!

This version should replace all previous versions of Lemur.

lemur-20.sit.hqx is a BinHexed Compactor archive containing the Lemur program,
a brief manual, and some AIFF sample files. 

[Archived as /info-mac/sound/program/lemur-20.hqx; 572K]

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 15:32:33 PDT
From: kevin@cse.lbl.gov (Kevin Gong)
Subject: [*] mac-chase-219.hqx

MacChase 2.19 has a couple of changes from version 2.18:
	+ game settings are saved
	+ graphics are tied to system clock, so speed should be
	  approximately equal on different machines
MacChase is shareware, $0 registration fee ($10 donation suggested).

	- kevin

[Archived as /info-mac/game/mac-chase-219.hqx; 180K]

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 22:19:01 +0200
From: d88-jwa@nada.kth.se
Subject: [*] Ping version 1.0 - with source !

Please find enclosed the stuffed binhexed copy of Ping version 1.0.
Ping is a system-7-dependant chat program with a VERY small memory
and disk footprint. It runs in 30 KB of RAM, and is only 7422 bytes
small on disk. It is small enough to have in the Startup Items
folder; that's good because if everyone has it, everyone can get
in touch with everyone.

Source is included, so don't com whining to me for fixes. It took
me a whooping three hours to write it (and another one for testing)
and that's about the level of support you'll get... On the other
hand, I'd love to hear from people using Ping, and what you think
of it, and if you have suggestions, my mailbox is always open.

Freeware. Commercial distribution restricted. Copyright 1992 Jon W{tte

Cheers,

							Jon
							h+@nada.kth.se

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/ping-10.hqx; 38K]

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 19:20:03 EDT
From: waire@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (Timothy A Waire Jr)
Subject: [*] TeleFinder/User 2.62

Please find enclosed the newest version of TeleFinder/User.  This replaces
the current found in info-mac/comm.

TeleFinder/User is a grahically based communications program for calling 
TeleFinder based BBS.  It sports an interface that emulates the Macintosh
Finder.  You double-click newsgroups to read posted messages, drag files to
you local drive to initiate file transfers, shift click files to multiple
select files for batch z-modem transfers, etc...and it blows away FirstClass!

This version is configured to dial my BBS at 410-922-7743.  Give it a try by
logging in as "guest" with the password "guest".  The guest account has full 
access to the BBS, just no download access.  We support about 38 FidoNet echos
and about 14 of the Macintosh based USENET NewsGroups.

Timothy A. Waire, Jr. (Whitegold)
INTERNET: waire@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/tele-finder-262.hqx; 362K]

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 22:41:26 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.halcyon.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: [*] TidBITS#119/13-Apr-92

TidBITS#119/13-Apr-92
=====================
 
 It's not as big a deal as when a car company does it, but Apple
   recalled Tune-Up 1.1 last week and replaced it with 1.1.1.
   That's embarrassing, but not nearly as embarrassed as you'd
   be if your portable caused a plane to have problems due to
   the radio frequency interference we discuss this issue. The
   latest rumors from Claris aren't in the slightest bit
   embarrassing though, and neither is Dan Walkowski's
   excellent trash management utility, TrashMan.

Topics:
    MailBITS/13-Apr-92
    Sorry, Charlie! (Tune-Up Recalled)
    RFI Interference Letter
    RFI Follow-up
    Claris Windows Rumors
    The TrashMan Cometh
    Reviews/13-Apr-92
 
[Archived as /info-mac/digest/tb/tidbits-119.etx; 26K]

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 14:50:10 PST
From: "Tim Thompson, JPL Radio/submillimeter Astronomy Group" <THOMPSON@jplrag.JPL.NASA.GOV>
Subject: (Q) Apple 13" Color monitor on a Classic?

   Is it possible to operate an Apple 13 inch HiRes color monitor on a Classic?
If so, How?

                                 Tim Thompson
                                 thompson@jplrag.jpl.nasa.gov

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 10:16 MET
From: "A.L. SMIT" <A.L.SMIT@CABO.AGRO.NL>
Subject: (Q) Virtual memory

Hello there,
We have a MACfx with 20Mb RAM and a hard disk of 160Mb, System7 and 
Tuneup.
I noticed that when there is e.g 30Mb free space on the hard disk 
virtual memory can not be set beyond 30Mb, while theoretically it should 
be 30 + 20 = 50Mb. Under System6 and with 8Mb RAM installed I did NOT 
observer this phenomenon.
Any suggestions?
Bert Smit
CABO-Wageningen
the Netherlands
E-mail: a.l.smit@CABO.AGRO.NL

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 11:55 GMT
From: MATT <M_COCKERILL@ICRF.AC.UK>
Subject: .PCX, .BMP file conversion (Q)

I need to import some black and white graphics files from Windows into
Canvas 3.0 . I can export the files in PCX, BMP or IBM TIFF formats.
Is there any way I can convert these files without shelling out for
the commercial Mac-Link translators or similar? None of the
shareware graphics conversion packages I've downloaded from sumex seems up
to it.

One other (probably very stupid) question. Do any of the debinhexing 
utilities available support drag-and-drop conversion?

Will summarize if sufficient interest etc...etc...

Thanks a lot

Matt Cockerill       ( m_cockerill@icrf.ac.uk )

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 12:44:41 -0500
From: mcj@chem.wayne.edu (Martin Josso)
Subject: 24-bit-screens

I guess more people are know using 24-bit cards but the gif format supports
only 256 colors, and real-color screens are not widely available (to my
knowledge at least).Does anyone know of sites that store 24 or 32-bit PICT
or PCT0 the way wuarchive.wustl.edu does with GIFf files?
Thanks in advance.
        	        	       	       	       	     Martin Josso	
mcj@chem.wayne.edu
        	       	       	       	       	       
        	       	       	       	       	      Wayne State University
        	       	       	       	       	      Department of Chemistry
        	       	       	       	       	      Detroit, MI 48202

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 12:30:16 -0800
From: Rozanne_Thomson@sfu.ca
Subject: 512K SIMMs from IIsi

When I upgrade a Mac IIsi from 3 MB to 5MB RAM, I end up with four 512K
SIMMs
>From it which I haven't discovered a use for. They don't work in an SE or 
a IIcx. The SE will not recognize them, the latter sees them as 256K SIMMs.
Does any one know of a situation where they are useful?
You can e-mail me directly if you like and I'll summarize for the Net if
there is sufficient interest.
Rozanne_Thomson@sfu.ca 
Academic Computing Services,
Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C. V5A 1S6
Ph. (604) 291-4799. Fax (604) 291-4242.

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 04:22:54 GMT
From: parkyn@sfu.ca (Dale Parkyn)
Subject: 512k simms on SE (Q)

Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes:

>Hey, netters,
>     I was wondering if it was possible to get 1.5 megs by putting in 4 512k
>megs, which I got from my new IIsi, into an SE, to get say, 2 megs out of it,

Sorry, but the 512KB SIMM only works with the IIsi...  1 MB SIMM is
the maximum choice, install in pairs. --> 1MB, 2MB, 2.5MB, 4MB.

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 20:03:27 ADT
From: K2JJ000 <K2JJ%UNB.CA@UNBMVS1.csd.unb.ca>
Subject: Accelerate LC (Q)

HI:
I am thinking about accelerate my old LC, but confused by different
accelerators. Could anyone give my some help:
1. Daystar Powercach: does DAYSTAR 40 has the same speed as FX?; Is it
68030 CPU or ?
2. Toka 040. Does this accelerator has incompatible problem as Qutra?
Is it possible to compare the speed of Toka 040 with Daystar 50/FPU?
3. How about Apply Engineering's LC030 Accelerators?
4. Which Dealor gives better price?
Thank you in advance.

F. Ray Meng
Department of Forestry
UNB Fredericton
NB Canada
K2jj@UNB

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 10:17 EDT
From: ROBERT SEKULER <SEKULER@BINAH.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU>
Subject: AGENDA (from Lotus)

The May 1992 issue The Atlantic has a very interesting article on Lotus'
Agenda.  AGENDA is a sophisticated information manager for near-free form
text entries.  Unfortunately it is a DOS product.  The author of the Atlantic
article suggests that Macophiles run AGENDA using one DOS-emulator or other.
Has anyone actually tried this?  If so, can you tell me about the hardware
you used and how satisfactory you found AGENDA's speed under emulation?
It does sound like a very exciting product (and for just $99).

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 00:02:20 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: Apollo 0.8 conflicts?

On 13 Apr 92 15:13:00 EST you said:
>Just tried Apollo 0.8b on my IIsi running system 7.01 (with tune-up 1.0) and
>found that it is incompatible with SndControl and the new TOM init.  Apollo 0.7
>had no difficulties with SndControl.

Funny, here I sit running SndControl (v1.1.3), TOM INIT II, and Apollo
0.8b1 without a problem (Quadra 700, 7.0.1 TU 1.1.1 and a PB 170 with
the same configuration).

When you report problems, it helps if you indicate which Mac model and
what System version you're running.  Likewise, what are the versions of
programs you think are causing the problem?

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 21:40:24 EDT
From: Jon Butler <JBUTLER@YALEVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>
Subject: Apollo Crashes

I too have had problems with Apollo8b1, but not quite the problems described
in other reports.  I am running Sys7 on a Mac SE/30.  I have previously used
Apollo7b2 with great pleasure and no problems.  I installed the new Apollo,
liked it, but discovered that when I turned my computer on again, the Apollo
icon carried a large X in it and no Apollo appeared on my machine.  I
reinstalled Apollo8b1, it worked find, but after I turned my machine off, then
on again, Apollo again disappeared.  So, I've reinstalled Apollo7b2 and am
happy.

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 10:20:45 +0100
From: Mr Gordon S Byron <gsb1@forth.stirling.ac.uk>
Subject: bad shutdown(hardware?)

A IICX we have in a lab won't shut down. It seems to switch into
shutdown mode, dim the screen , pause briefly and then reboot. Before
I pull the machine out and send it to the technicians I'd like to know
if it could feasibly be a *software* problem. thanks
G. Byron. Stirling University. Scotland.gsb1@uk.ac.stirling.forth

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 01:16 EST
From: G1400023@NICKEL.LAURENTIAN.CA
Subject: Bigger picture

Hi netters,

Here is my question, which is probably a FAQ.  

Is there a way to make the black band around the screen of an SE
running sys 6.08, smaller?  I would like to optimize screen usage.
I am told that there is a program for colour screens.  What is this
program and will it work with a compact mac?  If it does work with 
compact macs where will I find it?

BTW, what's a good program for making backups to floppys?  

Thanks to all those who answer.
Carlo Fusco
g1400023@nickel.laurentian.ca

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 10:23 EDT
From: Jan <JRICHARD@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU>
Subject: Classic II as an AppleShare File Server

We have been using SE/30's as AppleShare File Servers, since we had read that 
there was almost no performance difference between that and a faster machine
when running AppleTalk (as opposed to Ethernet.)  We are wondering whether
the Classic II would have similar performance to an SE/30 as a file server.
I guess the main questions are: (1) is the math coprocessor used at all in
file/print serving? and (2) is the bus slower on the Classic II, and would that
affect performance?  If anyone has any experience and/or information on
using a Classic II as a file server, I'd be interested in hearing from you.

Jan Richard, JRichard@acc.haverford.edu

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 11:33:00 +0200
From: "jordi@sc2a.unige.ch ==> S. Jordi, Geneva, Switzerland" <JORDI@sc2a.unige.ch>
Subject: Compuserve Internet address

Hi again...
I just want to add one new chapter to the connection to Compuserve...
At last, I've found an internet address which allows you to connect 
with telnet. The address is 35.1.48.149. Type "Compuserve" at the
"Which Host ?" prompt. You also have other server available. On-line
help may guide you.

Hope this will help you !
Sincerely,
Steve Jordi-Dpt of Geophysics-U of Geneva-Switzerland-jordi@sc2a.unige.ch

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:21:22 GMT
From: rbrink@hubcap.clemson.edu (Rick Brink)
Subject: Coprocessor error

"Steve Marsh" <marsh@anvil.nrl.navy.mil> writes:

>Recently I've begun getting "bombs" that say something like "Error - coprocessor
>not installed." There are "Restart" and "Continue" buttons, but both usually
>freeze up my mac.  This error appears at seemingly random times, and happens on
>both my IIci at work and my SE at home.  I'm running sys 6.0.7 on both, and have
>a Novy MX20 accelerator on my SE (16MHz '020 w/68881). 

I've had the same problem with an SE/30 running 6.0.7 and Appleshare 2.0.1.
I have no solutions, just adding to the report.

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 20:38:58 -0700
From: obrien@mozart.lisc.lockheed.com (Robert O'Brien)
Subject: counting word occurrences

It's not pretty, it's not automatic, and it does not generate tables,
but I needed to count certain words once and here's what I did:


1. global search-and-replace particular word(s) with uniquely
misspelled version(s)

2. call up spelling checker, note the 'occurrences' count(s)

3. fix the misspelling(s)


I use MacWrite IIv1.1, your spelling checker might not give you the
number of occurrences.

If you only need to check one or a few words, have at it!


OPINION:
I do not like spelling checkers.  Like pocket calculators, I think
they give an excuse for poor use of one's brain.  Recently there has
been mention of getting larger and larger dictionaries into them.  Why
not just compose a dictionary containing all possible letter
combinations?  Then nothing could be misspelled (or misspelt)
{and you could completely discontinue using it}.  I am sick and tired
of seeing the WRONG WORD spelled correctly.  I'd rather encourage you
to learn the language, and leave spelling checkers to those who need
them for technical terms, instead of using a wrong homonym.
Awlwright?  :-)

==> an awlwright would probably be a person who makes pointed
tools by metal forging, or maybe that would be an awlsmith?  Both
could be considered properly spelled 'American English' words.

German, on another hand, allows almost anything - maybe even:
        Macvergnugen???


        Bob O'Brien
        obrien@mozart.lisc.lockheed.com

** opinions expressed are worth the paper I printed them on,
** maybe more, maybe less

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 19:31:10 PDT
From: Paul.Antaki@mtsg.ubc.ca
Subject: Cryptic Error Messages

Here's my little bit on 'cryptic error messages':
I was just trying to expand a self-expanding archive when I got
an error message -44. Who knows what that is? I looked it up and it
turns out to be a diskette write-protected error. I was opening
the archive from a write-protected floppy. I simply unlocked the
floppy, put it back in the drive and went about my business.
The moral:
If I hadn't known that -44 was write protected error I would have
though that there was something wrong with the archive. I've never
gotten this error before, I usually get the full message when I
try to copy onto a disk that is write-protected. In this case, I 
don't know why I only got a number.
Did I get my point across?
Paul

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:44 EDT
From: AARON BARNETT <C2MXBAR@FRE.TOWSON.EDU>
Subject: Custom Icons (Q)

  I am able to use custom icons with folders by setting 
"use custom icon" in resEdit.  I am, however, unable to set 
this attribute to a disk.  Anyone know how I could do this?

Aaron
c2mxbar@fre.fsu.umd.edu

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:30:45 -0500
From: Charlie.Mingo@p4218.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Charlie Mingo)
Subject: Demon Dial 1.11 (R)

Robert Hess <74660.612@CompuServe.COM> writes:

  > Elliotte Rusty Harold write about Demon Dial 1.11.
  > 
  > "Demon dialing" is illegal. In fact, even dialing the same phone
  > number in your favorite telecommunications program more than 15 times
  > without user intervention is illegal. I'm amazed that the Digest
  > would include a file whose sole purpose is illegal and, at least,
  > incredibly irritating.
  > 
  > By the way, if you own White Knight you'll notice that selecting the 
  > command to auto-dial a phone number defaults to 15 redials before it
  > quits. This is because Scott Watson knows his law (maybe not much
  > else ;)...he can let YOU change that value, but the law-breaking is yours.
 
   Mr. Hess is simply propagating one of the oldest of the "old wives
tales" in the computer world.  This topic comes up every six months in
the TELECOM Digest, frequented by many telecom and data communications 
professionals, where the response is invariably:

       There is no law against your computer program dialling the same 
       phone number over and over again.

       As Toby Nixon, the Chief Engineer at Hayes, has pointed out many 
times, the only limitation is that the Canadian Department of 
Communications will not certify a modem, which (acting alone) may
dial the same number more then 10 times.  There is no corresponding
regulation in effect in the US, and the DOC reg only applies to modem
manufacturers, not users.

       In the world of telecom, a modem under the control of an external
computer is deemed to be "under user control," so the actions of
a dialling program are not distinguished from the actions of the
person using the program.  [Mr. Nixon helped draft the Canadian
DOC regulations, and it can be assumed that he understands them.]

        If Mr. Hess can provide any statute, regulation or telco rule  
which prohibits repeat dialling of the same number, I would appreciate 
hearing of it.  (I am referring to something more authoritative than 
Scott Watson.)
 

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 10:40:55 +0200
From: Christoph van Wuellen <HBO043%DJUKFA11.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Different LW drivers on a net (A)

It is my understanding that all users on a net should use the same
LaserWriter driver, even if they use partly Sys6, partly Sys7.
This seems to be the only reason for the introduction of the famous
system '6.0.8', which is essentially sys 6.0.7 plus Sys7 printer drivers.

Using different LW drivers may require restarting the LW each time.

C.v.W.

P.S. I do not have LWs on a net, but this is what I remember having heard
about.

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 03:05 EST
From: Brian Pickerill <00BKPICKERIL@LEO.BSUVC.BSU.EDU>
Subject: Effect of 16 bit LC bus on LC accelleration

Recently, someone mentioned getting a Daystar Powercard accelerator
for the LC.  This leads me to wonder how much (in general) the 16 bit
bus of the LC would negate such an upgrade.  Would one have to buy,
say, a 25mhz Powercard to equal the performance of a IIcx (se/30)
or IIsi, or what?  Would an LC with a 40mhz PowerCard be slower,
about equal, or faster than the stock IIci?  Maybe someone who owns 
an LC with a Daystar Universal PowerCard could answer, or perhaps 
someone would like to take an informed, theoretical stab at the 
question.  Any takers? 

------------------------------

Date: 14 Apr 1992 07:57:47 -0500
From: Pete Roberts <proberts@draper.com>
Subject: Finder Bus Error??? (R)

                       Subject:                               Time:7:50 AM
  OFFICE MEMO          Finder Bus Error??? (R)                Date:4/14/92
In my case Finder bus errors were traceable to Greg's Buttons, v1.5b2.  I have
had a lot of problems recently on a Mac II with Sys 7.0.1, Tuneup 1.1.1. 
Greg's Buttons may not be the only problem, but it was part of a repeatable
condition that was remedied only by removing GB from my extension "lineup".

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 19:42:07 +0200
From: mip@cip-s01.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Michael Pruemm)
Subject: FSTA-Help

Dear netters,

is there anybody out there who can help me to get contact to/information about 
the people who sell the FSTA (Food Science and Technology Abstracts) Database 
CD-Rom Version 1969-1990?

Kind regards
Wolfgang Quehl
RWTH Aachen
Germany

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:01:17 MST
From: DWANDERER@MISVAX.MIS.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Generation Systems Removable HD (Q)

Has anyone ever purchased a removable syquest from this company?  I am 
looking to sell my 44rm for an 88rm from GS.

Any respones would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Dave
DWANDERER@mis.arizona.edu

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 16:54:35 +0300
From: eyler%trbilun.bitnet@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU (Akif Eyler)
Subject: How to avoid multiple installations (C)

I have often read here that many people resort to a full installation
process in case of System corruption

Problem: System corruptions occur quite often, usually as a result of
software conflicts, almost always indicating a bug somewhere.

Solution: Reinstall the System. But this is a lengthy process, not
to be repeated often.

Remedy: Make a clean copy of System, save it in an accessible place.
(I keep one within a folder near the System, but it could be in
a diskette. Just make sure that it is clean.) Whenever you smell
System corruption, just move the System to trash, option-drag the
clean copy in its place, and restart.

I have saved about 10-15 installations during the last 6 months.

Unfortunately, System corruption is something we have to live with,
until the System is made read-only to all but a few privileged
applications, maybe in a later release.

This is a speculation, but the recent failure reports about
Tune-Up 1.x may well be symptoms of this problem. Since it is
not very wise to try reinstallation in every software problem,
this remedy should be suggested as the first thing to try in
case of software conflicts.

Akif Eyler
Bilkent University
eyler@trbilun.bitnet

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:04 CDT
From: "Dwight Lemke @ Wisconsin Oshkosh" <LEMKE@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU>
Subject: Icon Surprise

Does anyone remember the System 7 icons that Matt Slot posted to the archives
last December?  Well, today was the first day I killed some time by poking 
around my hard drive with a disk editor looking for invisible files.  I some
some in that collection that are rather, unique, shall we say in an invisible
folder.

They are archived at info-mac/misc/fly-color-icons.hqx

Later!

Dwight

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 12:58:05 EDT
From: ELOISE%MAINE.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU (Eloise Kleban)
Subject: Info-Mac files via BITNET

There is a server on BITNET which mirrors Sumex-aim and which
permits access to the files using the same names as Sumex.  It
has a "download" limit, but it is considerably more generous than
the 256K reported for Rice.  The server is macserve at pucc.  It
is not exactly a listserv, so you might want to request help
as your first step.  You can ask for a complete directory or just
a list of the latest additions to the archive.  Because it is a
mirror, it is generally a day or so behind Sumex.

Eloise Kleban
eloise@maine (BITNET)
eloise@maine.maine.edu (Internet)

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 20:22:09 BST
From: Mike Reddy <mike@sun-a.computation.umist.ac.uk>
Subject: INFOCOM Games Help and Availability [Q]

First of all, let me avoid the inevitable flames from those pious individuals
who *NEVER* 8-) play games on their Macs and think that trivia such as having
fun is a waste of bandwidth. The company are *effectively* out of business for
supporting their old games, and there cannot be many people who now have access
to some of the best text-based games around (work on any Mac without regard for
monitor, CPU speed etc 8-) ).

On to business, I have two things to ask:

1) Can anyone help me at the beginning of Planetfall? Rather than waste time,
anyone who has played this game can contact me at the address below.

2) Does anyone know of a source for INFOCOM games, *especially* "Suspended" ?
This could be people who have completed the game, and now have it on their 
shelves doing nothing. Wouldn't it be nice to give (sell?) it to a good home!

I do have details of a company in the UK who have a limited stock of these
classics, but their stock is patchy at best, and rapidly diminishing!

Yours Mike Reddy. (m.reddy@uk.ac.umist OR mike@uk.ac.umist.co.sna)

P.S. I will summarise this info for all leisure-lovers.
P.P.S. Flames will be treated politely, then ignored.

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:38:37 MST
From: DWANDERER@MISVAX.MIS.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: JPEG (Q)

Does anyone know if there any commercial programs available that supports 
JPEG aside from QuickTime??  I don't have Photoshop so I'm not quite sure.

Thanks for any replys..

Dave
DWANDERER@mis.arizona.edu

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 18:12:11 CDT
From: "Mark R. Williamson" <MARK@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject: LISTSERV File Xfer

Recently, Robert Hess said:
>I find it odd that some files on Rice's ListServ are >256K and there is a
>limit of 256K/day downloadable.

The first file you request may be larger, in which case it uses up your
quota for the day.  Please note that this is a standard feature of LISTSERV,
not something we set up to annoy you.  It is technically possible to make
the limit larger, but we do get a lot of requests and have chosen to stay
with the standard limit.  (Some users submit so many requests that our whole
system would be tied up all day sending them.)

Also please note that all of the files on our archive are merely copies of the
corresponding files in the master Info-Mac archive at Stanford;  we don't
control the size of individual postings.  Sometimes we do have to suppress
which are so large that LISTSERV can't handle them at all.  There is currently
one file in that state out of 1800 files in the archive.

Mark R. Williamson, Rice University, Houston, TX; MARK@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU
Coordinating BITNET redistribution of Info-Mac archive files from Rice.

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 11:23:40 MST
From: DWANDERER@MRSVAX.MIS.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Mac Like BBS Software (Q)

Eventually, I'd like to start up a local BBS using some Mac like 
communication software.  I've only seen First Class but their price range 
is well out of my budget....they also limit the # of users.  A 1000 user 
package costs around $1300.  Any suggestions?

Dave
DWANDERER@mis.arizona.edu

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 08:42:27 EDT
From: Pete Tamas <GNOME%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: MacZone discount

On Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:11:21 -0600 Sendhil Revuluri said:
>>I noticed from an old info-mac that Gary Lee Nelson was unhappy about being
>>put on hold by MacZone. I recently used MacZone (not for the first time). I
>>called late, they picked up quickly and were very professional. They also
>>gave me a discount for calling after a certain time.
>
>Do you know when this time is?
>How much was your discount?
>
If you call MacZone after 6 PM west coast time, you get free ground shipping.
Their number is 1-800-248-0800 (24 hours). I imagine other vendors give simi-
lar discounts. -Pete "The Gnome" Tamas

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:35 EST
From: Me <LFINKELSTEIN@vax.clarku.edu>
Subject: Mail order Macintosh [Q]

In a previous article, s0067284@Calvin.EDU (Jeffrey Veen) wrote:
> 
>A friend of mine is interested in buying a Classic with a Stylewriter.  In
>the back of MacUser, there is a company advertising called MacMarket.  Does
>anyone have any experience with this company?  They seem to have the best
>prices.
> 
>Any one know of any other mail order companies that sell systems resonably that
>are reputable?
> 
>Please E-Mail responses.     Thanks.
> 
>Jeff.
>s0067284@calvin.edu
> 

Both my roommate and I got our 2si's from MacsNOW (They have a MacWorld add).

We had to reformat the drives when we got them (They had used old software 
that don't work so well with system 7) but other than that, we have no 
complaints.  

					Loren Finkelstein

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 16:29 +0800
From: IANHART@hkucc.hku.hk
Subject: Network software

Dear Mac-networkers,
This university network is based on a VAX/VMS with 95% PCs. There are
about 10 Macs spread about. I am currently accessing this list via
a PC286 with a fan that sounds like a chain saw but I have ordered
a Mac IIci with ethernet card and transceiver. What is the best
network software to drive it in this environment?
Please reply direct to me rather than clogging up the list with
this pitiful request:
	Ian Hart
	University of Hongkong
	IANHART@HKUCC.HKU.HK
Thanks

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 18:33:50 EST
From: Dr. G. Paul Savage <paul.savage@carbon.chem.csiro.au>
Subject: nothing -> tabs

I have a large text file with rows of single digit numerical data not separated 
by anything. That sounds wierd I know but it's like this:

33234131402102011021
01020310220101023012
01203201201001121201

etc., where each *indivdual* digit is a separate piece of data. My question is, 
how can I use Change... in Word to insert a tab between each digit (to make it 
into a table). If the digits were separated by a space I could change the space 
character for ^t (tab) but what to do when there's no space? Is there something 
else out there that can do the job easier? Any help appreciated.

Paul Savage  ***  Melbourne  ***  Australia  ***  paul@carbon.chem.csiro.au

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 11:00:07 CDT
From: Dietrich Kappe <kap1@icarus.spc.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Novy Quick30 4.99 (Latest patch.)

Could some kind soul in Florida post the latest patch of the Novy
software to info-mac? The version in the archives now is 4.98. The problem
this is supposed to correct (this is my educated guess after hacking around
with macsbug and getting a very little info from Novy) is that when the 
ROMs are copied into 32bit RAM, the MBDF doesn't get called with a draw
message after a modal dialog, leaving it grey as a mouse. :-)

Not harmful, I guess, but certainly annoying.

For that kind soul in Florida, their BBS number is (904)-428-6171.

Thanks a bunch,

Dietrich Kappe
kap1@icarus.spc.uchicago.edu
Center for Population Economics

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 13:53:04 EDT
From: Jean Brunet <R31631%UQAM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: OnCue...

Hi! I am using system 7.0 with the Powerbook 170. Bad news for me, OnCue does
not work anymore. I tried finderApllicationMenu with no luck! Could somewhere,
someone know of a substitute for OnCue. I must say that i have lost the habit
to work without it. One more if I can? What version of  Suitcase is compatible
with system 7.0.. and the powerbook 170. Thanks in advance for your assistance.
Jean.

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 14:05:40 -0400
From: "Alan D. Danziger" <aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>
Subject: Open Files and Folders

In comp.sys.mac.digest, David Shorr writes:

>	I have a question about open folders and files; if I close a file in a
>program, why can't I delete the folder that contains it(and only it)?  For
>example: I close a file in Word 5 and switch to the Finder layer; I drag the
>folder containing the one file into the trash can.  It then tells me that the
>folder is in use, do I wish to stop or continue?  Clicking on either button
>erases the file but not the folder!  This happens both with System 6.0.5 and
>System 7.0.1 with 7-Up 1.1.1 and is NOT restricted to Microsoft programs:). 
>Thanks in advance for any answers(technical answers are welcomed although they
>may not be fully understood<g>).

Microsoft programs may not be the only ones which exhibit this
behavior, but they seem to be the most prevalent.  The problem, as I
understand it, is that when closing a file, some programs do not
change the "working directory," which remains linked to the folder.
Since there is this open link to the folder, you can't delete it.
Quitting the application which is holding the directory link will
allow you to delete it; opening a new file will also usually relink
the working directory.

	-=Alan

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 11:21:41 MST
From: DWANDERER@MRSVAX.MIS.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: PowerBook Internal 9600 Modems (q)

I'm trying to configure a system for a friend and he wants an internal 9600 
send/receive fax/data mode.  Anyone had any good experiences with any?

Thanks

Dave
DWANDERER@mis.arizona.edu

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:49:45 GMT
From: tewheele@iastate.edu (Todd E Wheeler)
Subject: PowerBook Screen Savers

PowerBooks (and about every other laptop made) have *LCD* screens.

There is no need for a screen saver other than to give you something to
watch when you are not doing any work.  You cannot burn in an LCD screen.

Just the facts...


Todd Wheeler
Iowa State University
tewheele@iastate.edu

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 18:41:16 EST
From: Dr. G. Paul Savage <paul.savage@carbon.chem.csiro.au>
Subject: programmers key

Is there a software programmers key available for the IIsi that works? I have 
tried the  programmers key extension in the archive, however, when I did an 
interrupt it dropped me into MacsBug and would not let me out. Typing ES 
(escape to shell) or EA (escape to application) just dropped me back into 
MacsBug. What I really want is some way to escape hangs without having to 
reboot. I understand that sometimes a hang is serious and a reboot is necessary 
but I would just like to try an escape. Also, it would be nice to just shut 
down rather than restart when the IIsi hangs.

Paul

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:20 CST
From: "NAME \"Chip Eckardt\"" <ECKARDPP@cnsvax.uwec.edu>
Subject: ProtoTyper Help

I own a legal copy of ProtoTyper (a code generator program) for the Mac.
I called SmethersBarnes (the company that sold it) at (503) 274-7179
for support and was told that the person that wrote the program will
no longer support it so they discontinued it.  I heard a rumor that the
person that wrote ProtoTyper has a new version and is supporting it.
When I called SmethersBarnes back they refused to give me the name or
number.
QUESTION--Does anyone out there know how to get in touch with the
author of ProtoTyper?
FLAME--any company that refuses to give out info to a registered user
        should be run OUT of business! [they don't even sell a
competing product!!!]

Thanks for any help

--Chip Eckardt--

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 12:10:01 EST
From: E-mail me! <u910996@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au>
Subject: Quicktime availability

I am wondering how / where to get the Quicktime init.  Is it Shareware/P.Domain
or do I have to buy it?  If so, where from.  Questions Questions Questions.

Thanks in advance.
-- 

Delroy Hartley
u910996@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 10:41:35 EST
From: Thomas Fruin  <thomas@heraldo.apple.cl>
Subject: Remote Access aliases: need internal info (Q)

After going through the documentation that comes with the AppleTalk Remote
Access Developer's Toolkit, I still have a few questions on my mind. Can
somebody help?

The documentation mentions that you can use Gestalt to check if Remote Access
support is available in the Alias Manager (the biggest define I have ever
seen in my life has got to be "gestaltAliasMgrSupportsRemoteAppleTalk" :).

However, that is the only thing concerning aliases that I have found in the
documentation. Specifically, I haven't found any way to extract information
>From aliases to remote AppleTalk objects. What I am looking for are:

a) an improvement for the existing routine GetAliasInfo, or
b) new routines to access the ARA connection info in the alias record.

Of course I can hack myself a way into the expanded alias record, but that
wouldn't be a nice thing to do. Who can point me in the right direction?

-- Thomas Fruin        Santiago, Chile          thomas@heraldo.apple.cl

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Date: 14 Apr 92 10:02:19 U
From: "Rick Jarvis" <rick_jarvis@quickmail.clemson.edu>
Subject: Sys 7 Tuneup 1.1 vs 1.1.1 (

 Sys 7 Tuneup 1.1 vs 1.1.1 (Q)
Trying to be on the cutting (bleeding?) edge, I ftp'd version 1.1 and had it
installed shortly after it's release. Any idea about installing 1.1.1 on top of
1.1? or should I reinstall a new system and start fresh? Thanks.
Rick Jarvis, Clemson University, jpjrv@clemson.clemson.edu

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:38 EST
From: Me <LFINKELSTEIN@vax.clarku.edu>
Subject: Tune-Up Problems

Well, the new Tuneup munched my System file.

Didn't make it invisible, just destroyed it.  I had to re-install 3 times to
track the error.

All better now, though.  :-)

                                Loren Finkelstein

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 08:14:18 EST
From: J. H. Goodman <goodman_jh@alcoa.com>
Subject: Tune-Ups (Q) Again

Judging from some of the mail I've received on this I realized that my original 
posting could've been clearer.  The 6.0.7 user already had his print drivers, 
backgrounder, print monitor, etc. properly updated from the System 7 disk.  The 
most recent change, which may have caused his problem with the coprocessor, was 
a switch from Laserwriter 7.0 to 7.1.1 .

Thanks again,

Jay Goodman/Alcoa Technical Center/goodman_jh@alcoa.com
 

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:42 EST
From: Me <LFINKELSTEIN@vax.clarku.edu>
Subject: TuneUp

In a previous article, wadew@DUCVAX.AUBURN.EDU (Wade Williams) wrote:
> 
>OK, I'm going to get flamed for this one and a lot of "but on *my*
>machine" commments, but that's the way it goes.
> 
>Now, with the second release of TuneUp, we've once again seen TuneUp
>blamed for everything under the sun.  Some call TuneUp "notorious"
>for the problems it causes.
> 

Wasn't the new tuneup recalled?  

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 13:47:01 EDT
From: "Jason D. Harry" <JHARRY@brownvm.brown.edu>
Subject: Where are MacDraw/PICT electronic symbols? (Q)

Does anyone know of existence/whereabouts of a library of standard
electronics symbols for use in MacDraw or other drawing programs?
Needing just standard stuff: R, L, C, transistors, diodes, led's,
IC's of different sizes, op-amps, etc., etc.  Other things like
edge connectors, buses, switches would be great.

Need is fairly urgent, so please respond directly to me ... I sometimes
get behind reading the digest.  Will summarize to net if there are
several replies.  Thanks!  (Hope this isn't a FAQ!)

Jason Harry
Division of Engineering
Brown University
Providence, RI
jharry@brownvm.brown.edu

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 15:33 EDT
From: KING%DUKEMVS.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: White Knight

Has anyone had any problems with White Knight 11.13?  My updated
version doesn't seem to want to allow any time to any other applications
(even when it is in the background) during a file transfer.  This is
really annoying, but is it just me (I know, I left myself wide open there)?
Any experiences with WK 11.13 would be greatly appreciated.
King Rhoton

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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 14:22:20 -0400
From: "Keith E Gatling" <kgatling@mailbox.syr.edu>
Subject: Word Frequency Counter (R)

Toby Tsuchida <UOG11811@vm.uoguelph.ca> wrote...

> I'm looking for a program that will do a word frequency 
> Count on a file and give me a report...Can someone point 
> me to a word frequency counter? I would like a simple 
> listing of words with the frequency reported next to it.


I just thought of a relatively simple and cheap solution.

If you're using MS Word, make a copy of the file and do a global search
and replace on the word in question, replacing it with some special code
like "@2@" (my personal favorite) that wouldn't have any reason to show up
in the text.  Then at the end of the replace, check to see how many
incidences it found of that particular string (I think you may have to
wait until it asks if you want to start from the beginning again, but I
know that it does tell you how many it found and changed).

keg

* Keith E Gatling                                kgatling@mailbox.syr.edu *

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