HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mlesch@syslab.csd.uwo.ca (Mike Esch)
Subject: Wanted:  SCADA info.
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:18:59 GMT

Apologies in advance if this is not the right group...


I am trying to locate information on a communications protocol
named SCADA.  The exact wording of the fax is "...requirements
of the C2068 SCADA communications protocol...".

I am posting to this group because I believe it to be a protocol
used by chemical companies for data exchange from the field to
the host computer.

Any information would be greatly appreciated; ftp sites with
the protocol definition would be ideal (I failed to find it
on any of the RFC sites).

Mike
From: craig@sics.se (imn_)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.misc
Subject: Gigabit projects outside US and Europe?
Date: 21 Sep 92 23:03:31 GMT
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista


Hi:

    Does anyone know of gigabit research projects (especially projects
involving more than one organization) outside of the US and Europe?
I'm trying to make sure I'm not neglecting any major projects in the
summary of gigabit activities I provide in a course I teach.

Thanks!

Craig Partridge
craig@bbn.com
From: creed@fse.ulaval.ca (Carlos Reed)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Syatem 7 Sharing vrs. Apple Share
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:45:04 GMT
Organization: Universite Laval
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6EE015E9E013229@tequila.fse.ulaval.ca>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 29 Sep 92 12: 49:34 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11

Hi evrybody !!!


Does anybody know what are the differences between the sharing option on
system 7 and Apple Share 3.0 ?

Do they perfom the same as servers ? (I'm planing to serve at least 10
persons).
Are there any speckmarks out there?



Any comments would be aprettiated.



Thanks in advance.


Carlos Reed           Creed@fse.ulaval.ca
From: rbc@XP.PSYCH.NYU.EDU (Ron Cagenello (w/ Aries Ardetti))
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: PowerBook docking
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:03:50 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Please bear with me - this is a not an appletalk question (I
would appreciate being told about a more appropriate Mac
forum for this question...)

I am attempting to dock my PB to my MacIIcx as an external hard
drive for backing up etc. The PB hard disk is SCSI device 1, my
startup drive on the II is device 0, and yet for some reason
the II attempts to boot from the PB, which fails as that system
software is configured as "minimal". At any rate, that is not
the behavior I want.

On some occasions it will boot correctly, only to bomb with a
"Finder illegal instruction" error message prior to mounting
the disks on the desktop. Curiously, when I boot up the II from the
Disk Tools disk with the PB attached, the PB disk shows up, but 
not the II's internal drive,
though it is visible to the HD setup program.

I'm at Wits End - both computers run System 7.0.1, the
cabling is correct, I turn them on in the right order, and
once it even worked correctly.

Any help would be appreciated.

Ron Cagenello		rbc@xp.psych.nyu.edu
Vision Research Lab
The Lighthouse, NYC
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: saud@seas.gwu.edu
Subject: Mac on a Lan??
Originator: saud@seas.gwu.edu
Organization: George Washington University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 22:47:09 GMT


Hi;

	Is it possible to have the apple "MAC" conneected to a Dos environment
	LAN "local Area Network"????

I do not read this group. If you please replay by mail.


Thanks


Wanes



































Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: steve.herman%express@freedom.msfc.nasa.gov (Steve Herman)
Subject: How do I get ASP Session Ref Num?
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk
Organization: BCSS
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:44:50 GMT

   Is it possible to get an ASP session reference number for a mounted
volume given a volume name or volume reference number?  Or even a
Zone/Server/Volume?

   I would like to send a change password message to a server.  I can mount
a server volume programmatically using the new System 7 PBVolumeMount call,
but I don't know what the session reference number is.  Therefore, when I
get ready to send a password change I have to unmount the volume, reconnect
using AFPLogin (which returns a session reference number), call
AFPChangePassword, call AFPLogout, and then remount with PBVolumeMount.

   The only thing which prevents me from just directly calling
AFPChangePassword it the fact that I don't have a session reference number.

   I should be able to change the password without ever disconnecting. 
Chooser can do it.  Novell's Netware API for the Mac has calls for getting
the session ref nums for it's servers and has a changepassword call which
works while volumes are mounted.  I may not always be dealing with a Novell
server however and need a generic way of getting the session reference
number from any file server.

   Is it possible? 
  
----------------------------------------------------
- Steve Herman - BCSS
- Boeing Computer Support Services
- Huntsville, AL
----------------------------------------------------
Xref: sparky comp.protocols.appletalk:3528 comp.sys.mac.comm:9633
From: Conrad_Nobili@Harvard.EDU (Conrad C. Nobili)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: AppleTalk 57.0.4 problems, where is NSI 1.2???
Date: 2 Oct 92 23:09:49 GMT
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Harvard University Office for Information Technology

In article <1992Oct1.091330.2791@nic.csu.net>, jack@nic.csu.net wrote:

> I looked at the Network Resources file with ResEdit and discovered what
> appears to be AppleTalk 57.0.7.  What gives?

Goddammit....  I had just done Get Info on the AppleTalk file in the
AppleTalk Files folder on the disk....  I see what you are talking about
now with ResEdit....

Maybe I will try that version after all to see if it works with Liaison
3.0.3 and an ethernet card....

Having to grope around in these things with ResEdit to find version
numbers, and especially not having ready access to older versions when
necessary, is extremely annoying....

Could someone point out a good ftp-able diagnostic tool to tell me
AppleTalk version numbers?  The guy at Farallon who helped me on the phone
the other night sent me something, but it didn't seem to survive the
combination of e-mail gateways and uu{en,de}coders it went through.  I
grabbed something from sumex called "TattleTale App 1.4.1", but it doesn't
report minor version numbers of AppleTalk, and so is not as helpful as it
could be in this situation....  Either e-mail me or post here....

Thanks so far, and thanks in advance....

Conrad C. Nobili  N1LPM  Conrad_Nobili@Harvard.EDU  Harvard University OIT
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: ruderman@phage.cshl.org (David Ruderman in Grace - CSHL)
Subject: Phase II & CAP for Intermediates (Q)
Keywords: Phase II, Appletalk, CAP
Organization: Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:22:44 GMT

I am running a network that is almost entirely using
Phase I appletalk.  I have CAP running on 4 Suns, 
5 Gatorboxes, and various Macs with Ethernet Cards on
on the Gatorboxes.

I recently obtained a VAX running Pathworks, which
runs only in Phase II.  Discussions here and things
I hear from apple suggest that Phase II is the way 
to go.

I just set up a Phase II CAP server on one of my Sun's
to experiment.  I want to also see about generating new zone
names.

I was wondering if someone could give me some pointers
on how to go about upgrading my network to Phase II.
Also, I was wondering if we could discuss how to 
administer Phase II.

I know that there is a little more complexity than Phase I.
And I think it would be useful (to me and others) if 
we addressed Phase II here.

Thanks,

-dave


-- 
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    David Ruderman                           ruderman@cshl.org
    Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory            516-367-8890 (Office)
    1 Bungtown Road                          516-367-8845 (FAX)
From: tom@wcc.oz.au (Tom Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Bridging Ethertalk onto a local network
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:52:39 GMT
Organization: Webster Computer Corp, Melbourne, Australia

In article <1992Oct2.145925.16047@nessie.mcc.ac.uk>, bob@sna.co.umist.ac.uk (Bob Nutter) writes:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to get an ethernet bridge (3com Netbuilder, actually) to sit across
> our local ethernet and the campus backbone. All I want it to do is to pass
> AppleTalk packets and nothing else to/from the local machines,
> including a Webster MPG, so that the various zones can be seen
> from both sides. I've configured the bridge to only pass packets
> with a header type (byte 0xC) of 0x809B

This is the encapsulation for EtherTalk Phase 1. If you're using
EtherTalk Phase 1, then you're half-way there. You also need to enable
AppleTalk AARP, which is 0x80F3. If you're running EtherTalk Phase 2,
then it's an 802.3 encapsulation, and you still need both EtherTalk
and AARP.

========================
Tom Evans  tom@wcc.oz.au
Webster Computer Corp P/L, 1270 Ferntree Gully Rd Scoresby, Melbourne 3179
Victoria, Australia 61-3-764-1100  FAX ...764-1179  A.C.N. 004 818 455
From: stuart@lorelei.ece.drexel.edu (Stuart R. Harper)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Eithernet - AppleTalk and the Mac Quadra 700.
Date: 27 Sep 92 02:01:38 GMT
Organization: Drexel U- CCD - E4 Lab

We've recently recieved two new Quadra that we'd like to put on out eithernet
backbone. Problem is we'd also like the Quadras to remain as part of our
AppleTalk Phase 2 Zone. 
  
     Any suggestions? 
Xref: sparky comp.protocols.appletalk:3493 comp.sys.mac.comm:9539
From: Conrad_Nobili@Harvard.EDU (Conrad C. Nobili)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: AppleTalk 57.0.4 problems, where is NSI 1.2???
Date: 30 Sep 92 05:28:21 GMT
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk
Organization: Harvard University Office for Information Technology

First, I'm sorry if this came up here in the past couple of weeks -- I've
been too busy to keep up with news....

I just had an extended battle with trying to get Farallon PhoneNET Liaison
3.0.3 to work on my new IIci with Asante MacCon3 card in it.  (I didn't
previously have an ethernet card in my router Mac....)

It turns out that there is a problem with using AppleTalk 57.0.4, which I
had foolishly caused myself to be using when I used Apple's Network
Software Installer 1.2.1 disk to update my system the other week.  I also
foolishly can't lay my hands readily on an NSI 1.2 disk.  I *did* have an
Asante EtherTalk Universal Installer Version 4.0 disk on hand (they were up
to Version 4.1 a couple of weeks ago).

With that disk I was able to downgrade my version of AppleTalk (use the
Customize... button to get past the complaint about newer versions of
AppleTalk...).  I believe one must downgrade the Network Control Panel by
hand after the custom installation completes.

As the versions of AppleTalk and the Network Control Panel on the Asante
EtherTalk Universal Installer Version 4.0 disk reveal themselves to have
originated on the Network Software Installer 1.2 disk, I imagine one could
also use that disk to perform the downgrade.

I did check out ftp.apple.com for the NSI 1.2 disk.  What I found was a
very new (this afternoon) NSI 1.2.3 disk, and some very old Network Product
Installer disks.  I checked out NSI 1.2.3 and it contains AppleTalk 57.0.4,
not something yet newer which might also solve the problem.

Does anyone else agree that it would be nice to have the NSI 1.2 disk on
ftp.apple.com?  Does anyone know any other places to ftp either the NSI 1.2
disk (yeah, I kinda doubted it) or the Asante 4.0 disk?

For those of you interested, AppleTalk 57.0.3 (and the Network Control
Panel 2.3.2 which goes with and works with it) completely solved my
problems.

To be complete, I should add that throughout I have been using the Apple
EtherTalk drivers rather than the Asante ones (this is why I buy Asante
cards).  I should also add that my downgrade procedure worked fine with
System 7.1 and MacTCP 1.1.1, in case some others of you are using those
already and would have thought that they needed the newest AppleTalk.

Conrad C. Nobili  N1LPM  Conrad_Nobili@Harvard.EDU  Harvard University OIT
From: wbs@mred.llnl.gov (William B. Schaefer IV)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: ARA and Personal LW
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:42:57 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

We have a user attempting to use ARA into a Mac with a Personal LW.  When
ARA is enabled, the LW vanishes to the local Mac.  We have loaded the
latest drivers, and toggled "Remote Only" to no avail. 

Anyone else had this problem?  Any solutions?

wbs
From: tony@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM (Tony Reeves)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: need help with cap60
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:59:53 GMT
Reply-To: tony@hacgate.UUCP (Tony Reeves)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Co., El Segundo, CA

Help! I need help with a sun running cap60. I have recently been given the
"chance" to take over a new area running sun 4.0.3 and cap60. First I know
nothing about cap, or mac's. The problem they have is this:

everytime they try to print the printer gives this error:

error: undefined; OffendingCommand: F
Flushing untiul EOF seen


We are using mac with system 7, and cap is 60. I figured this is somesort of
error in the laserprep that is attached ahead of the apple file. Unix files
print fine. Yet, apple files all give this error. Where do I look to see where
this error is and fix it? is it a prep file of some kind?
-- 
Why did the Roman Empire Collapse? What is latin for Office Automation?
---- The opitions expressed here are mine and have nothing to do with Hughes
Aircraft Co. -- So there! tony@hacgate.hac.com
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: jeffc@comb1.comb.umd.edu (Jeff Clowser; IRG)
Subject: Local Appletalk printers
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Maryland, Center of Marine Biotechnology
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:57:00 GMT

This may not be the best place to post this question, but it kinda has to do
with Appletalk protocols, so here goes:

I have a faculty member here who has a Personal Laserwriter.  It's hooked
up to his IIsi via localtalk cables.  His Mac is connected to our network
via Ethernet.  So, to print he has to select localtalk to choose the printer,
but to log onto the fileserver, he has to select ethertalk.  Makes it a real
pain to print, esp. from mail...  Anyway, the dept. won't pay for something
like an etherprint box, and he doesn't want to advertise his printer on 
the network.

My question is - Is there a driver or anything out there that will drive this
Appletalk network printer as a serial, non-networked printer?  I don't think
there is, in fact, I think it's a waste to set up a network printer like this,
but any suggestions are appreciated.  Please Email any response, as
I get around to mail more than news.

Thanks,
Jeff Clowser
Jeffc@comb1.comb.umd.edu
Information Resources Group, Maryland Biotechnology Institute
University of Maryland
From: agust@risken.vd.volvo.se (Anders Gustafsson)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: CAP problem, Ultrix 4.2
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:23:27 GMT

With a lot of help from several different people, I finally solved the
problem: The kernel wasn't configured for packetfilter support.

The problem was fixed by adding the following two lines to the system
configuration file:

	option PACKETFILTER
	pseudo-device packetfilter

Since I've received mail from other people with similar problems, I
thought it might be in order to post this follow-up.

Many thanks to those who helped me out,

Anders
From: dave@macdavid.han.de (David C Long)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Printing from Macs to ethernetted unix boxes
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:44:06 GMT
Reply-To: dave@macdavid.han.de
Distribution: world
Organization: Hannover, W. Germany


In Regards to your letter <1992Sep24.133255.1477@colorado.edu>:
> I have several Macs on the ethernet.  I also have an RS6000 running
> AIX3.2 and a NeXT running NS3.0 on the ethernet.  I would like the Macs to be
> able to print to queues on one of these machines and to mount
> file systems from one of these machines through appleshare.

I work for Helios Software in Hannover, and we have a non-PD solution
to your problem, at least for RS/6000, not NeXT. 

The question is, what is cheaper:

a) Buy our EtherShare software (approx. $5300)

b) buy a Fastpath and hire a full-time Unix guru to look after CAP

Mail me at work if you want more details (dave@helios.de).

We have two US distributors.

Dave

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From: mclagan@sfu.ca
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: remote terminal support
Date: 2 Oct 92 00:48:23 GMT
Organization: The Internet

I'd appreciate recomendations for a hardware configuration 
and network protocol which would support *both* a real VT100
and several terminal-emulating Macs at a remote site.

  Site 1                Site 2
 ______
|      |  tel line     _____      ______      _____      _____
| Vax  | -----------> | ??? | -> |VT100 | -> | Mac | -> | Mac |
| 8530 | (data         -----      ------      -----      -----
|      |  quality)
 ------

VAX: DEC 8530 w. terminal server
   : current terminal sessions are supported locally over DEC net
     and remotely over RS-232 serial lines.

A TCP/IP card is available for the terminal server. (Would that 
let us support remote terminals via SLIP?)


Thanks very much.
Scott
mclagan@fraser.sfu.ca
From: montaron@peliat.cica.fr (Laurent Montaron)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Several zones on the same cable.. Help needed
Keywords: laserwriter, zones, ethernet
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:02:27 GMT
Organization: Institut Eurecom, France

Here is a summary of the answers I received:

You may configure your laserwriter to make it choose another zone name.

1- Create a TEXT file with the following PostScript code:

%%BeginZoneChange
currentfile
statusdict begin product (LaserWriter IIg) eq version (2010.113) eq and end not
{save exch 291 string readstring pop pop restore} if
/ASCIIHexDecode filter /SystemPatch statusdict /emulate get exec
85f6ba98b8147bdb3c41fc154e390200521caba043febd65f48e008d42590001cd0f62e4c9f2b84
1c6c1c85660f30002ba262234d72494f203c119951000000376b481858e01bff2db172cf2ecfe00
0446e2f3ddca7b1fb2d27814e1c22e000598f64cae7bb9897afb760a5d81ac0106>
serverdict begin 0 exitserver
(%EtherTalk%) <</EtherTalkZone (ZoneNameHere)>> setdevparams
%%EndZoneChange

2- Launch 'LaserWriter Utility' and download the file to your Laserwriter

It works fine on my system.. Thanks to Stefan Karlsson

-- 
+-------------------------------------+--------------------------------+
+    /    / /           / TM..........+ montaron@poly.polytechnique.fr +
+   /    / /___        /___ ..........+ montaron@inf.enst.fr           +
+  /    / /   / /   / /   / ..........+ montaron@eurecom.fr            +
+ /____/ /___/ /___/ /   /  ..........+--------------------------------+
+...........................Unlimited Corporation......................+
+......................................................................+
+........."Belgian submarines have nothing to do in aquariums".........+
+----------------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: "Bill Wang" <wcwang@moose.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Ethertalk Phase II for CAP
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 09:12:42 -0500


I have been running CAP on a Sun Sparc for many months with native ethertalk 
mode without much problem on a Phase I ethernet.  Now we just switched
over to Phase two and it doesn't seem to work (appleshare and laserprinting)
Does anyone have any hints of what need to be done to switch over CAP to
support native ethertalk (without hardware gateway) for Phase II?

Thanks in advance.



-- 
Bill Wang
US Mail = Psychology Department, Indiana University, Bloomington, IN 47405
Internet = wcwang@cs.indiana.edu
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Wednesday, 30 Sep 1992 13:06:47 EDT
From: <MITRA@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Looking for Netware to connect Macs to Novell

We have a Novell Network running NetWare 3.11.
We also have several macs with network cards. We are looking for
sources to buy Netware ( or whatever) to connect the Macs to the
network.  If anyone out there knows any soiu
sources, please post on the net or send me e-mail.
I would like to have either the Phone Numbers or Fax Numbers of any such
dealers.
e-mail address ;       mitra@maine.maine.edu

Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: brad@wana.pbrc.hawaii.edu (Brad Jones)
Subject: LaserWriter ROMs
Organization: Bekesy Laboratory, University of Hawaii
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 06:18:41 GMT

We need an upgrade for the ROM in our Personal LaserWriter NT to
overcome the checksum problem associated with using CAP.  Is there
some way to request these ROMs directly from Apple?  Ideally, I need
an email address or 800 number.  We've been trying to work with our
local vendor, but they don't seem to get it.  I know someone here
must have successfully dealt with this problem.  Thanks for any help
you can provide.

-- 
      Brad Jones  brad@ahi.pbrc.hawaii.edu
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: plato@lmsc.lockheed.com
Subject: Re: ForceDDPChecksums
Organization: LPARL
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 19:11:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.125154.10349@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Richard.E.Brown@dartmouth.edu (Richard E. Brown) writes:
...

>To guard against future incompatibilities with checksums, you can use a
>small extension (INIT) I found on the net. This INIT patches the
>DDPWrite call so the checksumFlag is always set true. If your software
>doesn't work with this INIT installed, something is broken. 
>
>[Climbing on soapbox] 
>
...

>Developers: Please check your software with this INIT. Or just turn on
>checksums in your product!
>
>[End of soapbox]


Thanks !

I just tried it and my QuickMail (v2.5) cannot connect to the server....
Is the QM broken wrt the DDPChecksums ??
Has anybody had similar experience ? 
My setup:  SE/30, 6.0.8, AppleTalk v.57.0.4, connecting to the QM server at an
EtherTalk Phase 2 zone thru a FastPath 5 (K-STAR 9.1).

>Rich Brown                    E-Mail: richard.e.brown@dartmouth.edu

V. Zarifis
LPARL, plato@lmsc.lockheed.com
From: paul@aztec.ucsc.edu (Paul Tatarsky)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: papof and IRIX and cap60pl126
Date: 1 Oct 1992 22:01:23 GMT
Organization: UC Santa Cruz CIS/CE
Distribution: world
Reply-To: paul@terra.ucsc.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: aztec.ucsc.edu

Does anyone have a working banner page setup using cap60pl126,
IRIX 4.0.1 lpd, and papof? If so, could you mail me how you did it?

I have it working right on a Sun in conjuction with transcript's
psint.sh filter and psbanner, but under IRIX with a similar filter
script, and using papof instead of psbanner, the output filter seems
to hang and will not allow the queue to clear.  (both the banner and
document print however, they just never leave lpq). I'm not exactly
sure what is going on, so pardon the lack of details. I'm hoping
someone will go "CLICK, hey we had the same problem and you need to do
this" type of thing. It kind of looks like a BSD signals v.s. SYSV
signals deal. But I don't know enough about it.

cap60pl126 papif seems to be working fine as long as you do not
specify an output filter. We kind of need the banner pages around here
though.

Thanks for any info anyone has!

-- 

 Paul Tatarsky         email: paul@cse.ucsc.edu
 UC Santa Cruz
 CIS/CE Board          
 Technical Staff
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk