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From: seah@ee.rochester.edu (David Seah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re:      Re: System 6.0
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:34:39 GMT
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science

In article <1992Jul27.204528.7754@utstat.uucp> philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes:
>Sorry to add to this, but there is another error which is really
>annoying. This happens to me whenever I use either Relicator (from
>GS+) or Teach. Upon quiting you get this message telling you that
>the System needs 300k or whatever free and that you should remove
>da's, init's, etc...and then it asks you to restart. I've got 5 megs
>of RAM. 

I have 4M of RAM, and get this error from time to time, usually after I
run and quit from a few applications.  Someone told me that it might
be overheating causing memory corruption (dunno about that).
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,from.socal.com
From: pro-apa.cts.com!bkogawa (Bryan Ogawa)
Subject: Re: 1 bit music on the II (was Re: SoniqTracker .52 & ModZap .80)
Organization: AppleWorks Programmers' Association - (213) 463-9289 300-1200-2400
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 08:08:57 GMT

One of the most amazing, to me at least, was LA Crackdown. It had a 2 or 3
part music score + drum beat...
fairly scary.
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From: dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re:      Re: System 6.0
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:00:38 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Jul27.204528.7754@utstat.uucp> philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes:
>[...]
>Sorry to add to this, but there is another error which is really
>annoying. This happens to me whenever I use either Relicator (from
>GS+) or Teach. Upon quiting you get this message telling you that
>the System needs 300k or whatever free and that you should remove
>da's, init's, etc...and then it asks you to restart.

That Finder message pops up whenever the Finder gets *any* error from
StartUpTools--unforutnately, in 6.0 it doesn't tell you the error
number. -- If any GSBug fans out there have the same problem with
Teach, please set a tool break on StartUpTools and let me know what
error is being returned!  (I can quit Teach just fine.)


>Finally, is Achiver (supplied with 6.0) reliable? I've had odd experiences
>with it not resoring a volume to one of a lessor size. Or is this common?

Are you restoring file-by-file or whole-disk?  What sort of oddness did
you get?
-- 
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Apple II System Software Engineer         |   P.O. Box 875
Internet:dlyons@apple.com                 |   Cupertino, CA 95015-0875

My opinions are my own, not Apple's.
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Shareware collection agency?
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:28:57 GMT

In <1992Jul22.135335.8608@cpu.com> gwlester@cpu.com (Gerald W. Lester) writes:

>	Do people really make a living off of shareware?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!! Woo, hoo, hoo... Snicker... Hee hee hee.. wah ha ha ha...
oooooh, that's a funny one... No possible way.  It's pretty uncommon to
receive more than a handful of shareware fees.

I've recently begun paying my shareware fees.  I'm low on cash, so I pay one
per month.  In a few days, I'll be sending off the next one...

- Eric S.

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From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: Music Contruction set to Soundsmith
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 06:34:38 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.184023.19247@pro-palmtree.socal.com> pro-palmtree!rstern (Ryan Stern) writes:
>in article <26JUL199203083166@vax2.concordia.ca>
> Mitchell Spector writes
>>...The last version of Soundsmith released (v0.95)
>>didn't support MIDI input OR output! A MIDI function was listed in the
>>menu selection but the programming to support it was not completed.
>>Soundsmith v1.0 was supposed to support MIDI, is that what your talking
>>about using...?
> I have the new version of soundsmith (released by seven hills software)
>and It does support midi now! [YAY]

What the heck is going on  here. One minute the information is that the SS1.0
project was cancelled for whatever reason. Are you talking about an official
7 Hills' release? If so, is the program different (apart from the midi)?

Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
From: v065hjku@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Jason Osborne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Looking for info on Apple II preservation project (GEnie)
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:22:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

saw a blurb about some project on genie to preserve old apple II programs.
I have one which I would like to get included, if possible.  Anybody with
information please drop me a line.  

Jason Osborne
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: kass@media-lab.media.mit.edu (Andrew Kass)
Subject: Re: The Perennial Piracy Debate (was Re: Bilestoad)
Reply-To: kass@sj.ate.slb.com
Organization: Schlumberger Technologies ATE, San Jose
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 20:39:46 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.042928.14636@nuscc.nus.sg>, isc10327@nusunix3.nus.sg (ONG
TAT-WEE) writes:
|> 	There are around 1 million Apple IIGS systems in the world.  If
|> only say 0.001% (?!!?) of 1 million pay for original s/w, the publisher
|> would get (say at $20 per game), 0.001 * 1,000,000 * 20 = $20,000!  Now,
|> comparatively, on the IBM PC side, there are around 80 million clones +
|> Blues around the world.  Even if only 0.001% pay for original s/w, the
|> publisher will be getting 0.001 * 80,000,000 * 20 = $1,600,000!!
|> 
|> - DOTW -
|> 

Just a small math reality check here:

100%   of 1,000,000 = 1.00    * 1,000,000 = 1,000,000
10%    of 1,000,000 = 0.10    * 1,000,000 = 100,000
1%     of 1,000,000 = 0.01    * 1,000,000 = 10,000
0.1%   of 1,000,000 = 0.001   * 1,000,000 = 1,000
0.01%  of 1,000,000 = 0.0001  * 1,000,000 = 100
0.001% of 1,000,000 = 0.00001 * 1,000,000 = 10

Andrew
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: mccla_d@ceawlin.cs.odu.edu (dennis mcclain-furmanski)
Subject: Rom 1 GS Going Bonkers
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA, USA
Distribution: comp.sys.apple2
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 05:34:57 GMT

Having a problem with a friend's GS, and I sure could use
some advice. It started with one day just refusing to boot,
after having had a problem while trying to save an AW 3.0
file.

Here's the setup:

ROM 1
4 MB memory on an OctoRAM board.
ZIP GS
Fingerprint card
Apple SCSI with CMS 40 in slot 7 - boot.

On boot, whether by slot 7, or by changing to 5 and trying a
valid startup floppy (ProSel, AW 3.0, Print Shop, etc), it
bombs into the monitor at 00/A0A0. A warm boot causes it to
bomb at 00/0000. The code that appears is 00 47. Comaprison
with my machine shows that I have the JMP code to $D???.
Inserting it into his and doing 0000G gets him to the
bracket prompt, but then it hangs.

Examination of Control Panel settings show such non-default
settings as Modem Port = 2400 bps intact, indicating battery
problems are not likely.

With the ZIP, Fingerprint and RAM board out, symptoms are
indentical.

Booting with option down to get the startup control panel
access works, but only if the SCSI is in. With the SCSI out,
it generally bombs to $08FF, Unclaimed Sound Interrupt.
Although occasionally it results in an ADB error $0911.
Heat is not the problem - the top is off completely and the
machine hasn't been on except for 15 minutes intermittently
out of the last hour.

With the SCSI out and boot set to slot 5, a floppy using P8
will boot, but at various places, the program refuses to
run. AW 3.0 asks for a startup disk, despite the fact it's a
complete AW system disk. Warm reboot causes CHECK STARTUP
DEVICE. Copy II Plus 8.1 starts up, but bombs to monitor
when you try to catalog it (and if you try to warm boot it
again, you get UNABLE TO LOAD UTILITY.SYSTEM, and again you
try and get CHECK STARTUP DEVICE). AW 2.0 loads, asks for
the date, and when you give it, it just hangs without
obvious bombing to monitor; warm reboot causes CHECK STARTUP
DEVICE.

After each CHECK STARTUP DEVICE, control panel settings of
slot 5 to Smart Port and startup slot of 5 are intact.

Every warm reboot from a P8 disk with option down - going to
Control Panel - gives an Unclaimed Sound Interrupt.

Booting 16 bit programs are very consistant. After 1/4 or so
of booting, it bombs. With ProSel 16, the thermometer
starts, but it dies with an Unclaimed Sound Interrupt. A
virgin system disk 5.0.4 does exactly the same. Starting
5.0.4 with the spacebar down shows Failure Loading GS.OS
File, $0027. (fMapTrashedErr ?). Of course, these are with
the RAM card in, since there's only 256 K on board without
it.

Any ideas? It seems whatever it is, the SCSI card makes it
worse. I'm out of things to try that make any sense. If
anyone has suggestions, I'd appreciate it. If you need more
info, tell me what to try, and I'll tell you the results.


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From: mccla_d@aesc.cs.odu.edu (dennis mcclain-furmanski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Howcomeitiz....
Date: 31 Jul 92 01:55:55 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.apple2
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA, USA

that for each and every post to c.b.a2, I get one of the following?

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From LISTSERV@BROWNVM.brown.edu Thu Jul 30 08:07:52 1992
Subject:      Message
To: mccla_d@AETHELBEHRT.CS.ODU.EDU

Your mailing for APPLE2-L has been submitted to the list editor: Christopher
Chung <CHRIS@BROWNVM>.

{Mail}& 

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I mean, I like to get mail. But I just received 15 of these, one for each 
segment of Vamps Jukebox.
From: usr3947a@TSO.UC.EDU (Kenneth Wronkiewicz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: piracy....
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:24:16 GMT
Organization: The Internet


        i think that the main reason of piracy is because people get 'burned'
buy expensive stuff that they don't like, so then people check it out, using 
piracy.  if companies were to place earlier, limited versions of software out,
people would know what they are buying.  as for old apple // stuf, from out of
apple // companies, they should just put the stuff out on shareware, make some
more cash, of sell it to some shareware artist to suport it...... BTW, i heard
(never mind)
i don't see what apple's problem of puting multitasking on the GS is..... all 
of the facilities for it are already there, it would be JUST like writing a 
mac switcher...... except for text applications.... just remap oa-option-res-
ctrl to switch, and only a mainaic would mask THAT call
Xref: sparky comp.sys.apple2:18013 misc.forsale.computers:28019 nj.forsale:1541 ne.forsale:3203
From: lunatic@netcom.com (Lunatic Johnathan Bruce E'Sex)
Subject: Re: System 6.0.1 Ethernet and MS-DOS FST
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 21:47:00 GMT
Organization: Netcom; Renegade User

In article <13769@mindlink.bc.ca> Herbert_Fung@mindlink.bc.ca (Herbert Fung) writes:
>I found this on my User Group BBS and I thought I'd share it with you all:
>
>Apple publicly announces MS-DOS FST for Apple IIGS
>A2 CENTRAL SUMMER CONFERENCE 1992 ("KANSASFEST"), KANSAS CITY, MO., U.S.A.,
>1992 JUL 23 (A2 ON GENIE) -- Apple publicly announced today that they are
>working on an MS-DOS File System Translator (FST) for the Apple IIGS.
[...]
>
>Herbert Fung
>MindLink!
>British Columbia, Canada

     _
    (_
    __)omeone wasn't very nice and left the attributes off of that
 (they messed up the formatting, as well).  It came from GEnie, and I
 wrote it.  Any questions as to what I saw and/or heard, just post them
 here.
 
    ][ talked to Greg Branche after the System 6.0 session the following
 morning.  It turns out that the MS-DOS FST is based largely on the
 ProDOS FST!  Greg started work on the MS-DOS FST as a side project,
 after he had already transferred out of the Apple II division.  Once he
 got it to a certain point, he turned over the code to Dave Lyons.  They
 haven't even really started on the write portion, yet.  The big problem
 with writing to MS-DOS disks is forked files.  There are currently two
 or three completely different methods that are used to store Mac
 forked files on MS-DOS volumes, and they don't know if they want to
 choose one of those or try something else (there simply is no standard,
 and it doesn't look like there's going to _be_ one).
     _
    (_
    __)ince the Atari ST uses a disk format almost identical to MS-DOS
 with a few variations, Greg said it's likely the MS-DOS FST could read
 Atari ST disks, as well, but he didn't have any ST disks to try out on
 it (if I can scare up some Atari disks I think I'll run over to Monroe
 4 and see if Dave wants to try 'em out).  I mentioned Amiga disks, but
 nothing conclusive was decided about them.
 
    |)
    |\ight now, the MS-DOS FST uses file name/file type translation
 that is identical to (and taken from) the High Sierra/ISO 9660 FST.
 For example, FILENAME.TXT is translated into a text file.  I suggested
 assigning new aux types in the $E0 file type to certain common archive
 types, such as .ARC and .ZIP, but they said they didn't want to do
 anything with aux types, right now, just file types.  Of course, anyone
 with the GS/OS Reference can look in the chapter on the High Sierra
 FST to get the data on Map Tables and create a new Map Table for the
 MS-DOS FST (like assigning .DOC files to text files, as well).


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From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (tuu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Syquests, GS, and Macs
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:06:42 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


In article <13678@mindlink.bc.ca> Herbert_Fung@mindlink.bc.ca (Herbert Fung) writes:
}when I use that cartridge on my Mac Classic it can't find anything.  Is
}there a way I can make the Mac read the HFS partition?

	You have to somehow get the Mac driver installed on the cartridge, 
since Macs have a driver on each hard drive they access.

	ADU did tell you "this won't be readable on a Mac" or somesuch 
similar notice when you formatted it, right?

	One possible solution is to make ADU think that the drive is 
actually an Apple drive, so it will install the Mac driver on it. You'd
want to obviously try this on a new cartridge or one you don't mind
reformatting.  After ADU makes a SCSI call to ask the drive what it is,
manually change the data it's read back in.. Obviously GSBug and Nifty List
are what you'd use to do this.

	Yes, this is an utter pain in the neck..  

	DUHH.. I think I just realized a *MUCH* easier solution.. (yet the
above should work also if one knows enough about SCSI)  Format the 
drive on the MAC, making one 32 megabyte partition, and the rest the next
partition..

	Then stick the drive in the GS and reformat the *first* HFS partition
to be a ProDOS partition.
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From: wsheffield@pro-ace.cts.com (Wayne Sheffield)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: a prodos question
Date: 15 Jul 92 21:36:37 GMT
Organization: ProLine [pro-ace]

In <3JUL199210310099@alpha.sunquest.com>
rjd@alpha.sunquest.com (Robert J. Dull) writes:

>Is it possible to create a new folder (sub directory) in
>Prodos from Applesoft?  How?  Thank you for your support.

Yes.  print chr$(4), "create new.folder, tdir"
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From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (tuu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Launching Appleworks question
Date: 26 Jul 92 21:24:33 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


In article <gq33221@pro-desert.cts.com> gregd@pro-desert.cts.com (Greg DaCosta - SysOp) writes:
}The only way that double clicking on a document icon works is if the launch
}path for the icon is correctly set to the location of AppleWorks GS.  If you
}have DICED or ICONED you should be able to change the path to Appleworks GS
}so that it can be launched when one or more icons are double-clicked.

	There's a potentially much easier solution...

	As long as the icon's pathname isn't completely blank, System 6 will
gladly remap the icon to application for you..  

	If it doesn't ask you if you want to Locate the application, then you
must go in and edit the icon's pathname.. If you don't want to have to 
remember the whole pathname, just put some bogus pathname in there, and then 
use the Finder to Locate the correct one.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: chauhan@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Amrit Chauhan)
Subject: Bad CRC on line xxx in UUENCODED files
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 19:19:59 GMT

Is there any way to cure a bad CRC error in a UUENCODED file?  Can I manually
go in and make the line a good CRC? :-)  If there is a way to fix this, I'd
really appreciate the information.

Thanks.....

Amrit

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From: fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Jpeg for the GS
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:32:14 GMT
Distribution: World
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <bill.711807511@braille.uwo.ca> bill@braille.uwo.ca (Bill Carss) writes:
>
>This is one of the many areas about which I know very little.  According to
>several friends of mine who are system level programmers JPeg is a flawed
>system.  After packing and unpacking GIFs or whatever you begin to loose some
>of the picture quality.  I would be willing to bet that the same could be 
>said for any version of the process.

What a strange thing to say.

The JPEG scheme is, by definition, a "lossy" compression scheme.  (You don't
pack GIFs with it; it's similar in function to GIF.)  Why would anyone want a
scheme which degrades picture quality?  Because you can squash pictures down
to 10 or 20% of their original size.

It's intended for "real world" scanned-in images, which are usually so grainy
that you can't see any loss in quality.  Unless you require super-resolution
and high quality (certainly not needed for alt.binaries.pictures.*), it's a
good way to go, because the amount of storage required and the time to transmit
images is dramatically reduced.

I think you had the right idea, but "flawed" is certainly the wrong word.
Don't forget that ACE (Audio Compression & Expansion, available as a toolset
on the //gs) is also a lossy scheme.

As far as a JPEG viewer goes, there isn't one.  Decoding JPEG is much more
time consuming than decoding GIF; it requires a lot of multiplies and divides,
which the '816 isn't particularly adept at.  An assembly version of the JPEG
decoder would be reasonably fast, but the format is more complicated than GIF
and so nobody has stepped forward to tackle it (instead we get 20 different
GIF decoders...)

The JPEG decoder available on tybalt (as a //gs shell EXE only) will convert
JPEG to GIF, which will allow you to view them with existing software.  Having
an actual JPEG viewer would just remove the intermediate step (though it might
provide a few more decoding options...).

>Bill Carss
>bill@braille.uwo.ca

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: MUSIC WRITER GS information needed!
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:09:45 GMT

In article <31JUL199205191306@vax2.concordia.ca> spector@vax2.concordia.ca (Mitchell Spector) writes:

[ ]
>
>  I have an older version 1.3 (Professional) which seems to work with MIDI
>output to my keyboard, but the input to the GS never worked (i.e. Playing
>scores on my MIDI keyboard to be converted into musical notation on screen).
>The sound quality MusicWriter produces through the Ensoniq chip is simply
>awful, sounding like music produced on a Macintosh Plus (or worse)!

2.0's sound is better though not great- better than on a Mac+ though! The
purpose of MW was always notational. I don't think they gave much thought 
to their instruments. Had they supported MidiSynth then we would all have
benifitted. I guess I should find out what became of them. Their products
were not inexpensive, and to just leave( as was mentioned by Todd W.) the
GS market soon after their 2.0 upgrade seems unfair, especially since they
seemed not to have informed their customers.
>
>>What would be nice would be a midi (standard) translator which would take 
>>files from other systems and translate them into SL or DT sequences.
>
>  "Music Modifier" can convert pc/mac/amiga/atari/etc MIDI file into either
>Diversi-Tune or synthLAB sequences. It also does conversion of SL->DT or
>visa-versa. The version I have is exteremly slow, runs under GS/OS although
>uses a poorly designed ASCII text display, and rarely does successful 
>conversions.  If a newer version exists I'd like to know. I've also heard
>of something called "MidiMate", but have never seen it. Most SL sequences
>have been converted from DT, Music Studio, and MIDI files, so there's some
>program out there capable of doing proper conversions!

Where can one get Music Modifier? MidiMate?
>
>  At the moment synthLAB is my favorite of music programs! The tone quality
>of instruments is incredible! (especially the Orchestra wavebank, and no
>longer supported "INSTF.BNK" with pipeorgan, tubularbells, harpischord, etc)!

Ah, how nice to hear this. Finally someone with taste. You should try to
get hold of Minstrel or Ears, etc...by Chris M. . Minstrel is a SoftDisk GS
NDA that plays back SL pieces. Rather nice to play Mahjong and have Minstrel
playing in the background.

Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: brudiakg@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ben Rudiak-Gould)
Subject: Re: multi-tasking GNO
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 06:21:29 GMT

szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo) writes:

>What I would like to know is why the Apple II crew changed 6.0 so that
>program(s?) like TransProg no longer work... (or atleast their reasoning
>behind it)

TransProg works fine.  I think it has compatibility problems with some of
the Universal Access stuff, though...

>:   Shane M. Zatezalo         : i-net> szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu  :

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