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From: bmarcum@world.std.com (Bill Marcum)
Subject: Re: Help with Bobterm and Hayes 2400 modem
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 06:02:49 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.135919.18203@devildog.att.com> smith@acpy01.att.com (Bob Smith (CXNIXPT1)) writes:
>I'm using Bobterm 1.20 with a Hayes 2400 modem. If I set up an automatic
>dial entry, after a connection, the program redials. I have to manually
>dial (ATDT...) to connect. Bobterm doesn't seem to recognize when
>the modem has connected.
>
>Has anyone had this problem? I suspect my modem settings need to be changed.
>Thanks.
You need to set your modem to send verbose status codes, i.e. CONNECT 2400
instead of numeric responses.  I think the command is either ATV1 or ATX1
(never can find that command list when you need it!)
Also, I have a modem that sometimes sends a false BUSY response, but when that
happens, you dial gain and it works fine.

Bill Marcum  bmarcum@world.std.com
From: crow@coos.dartmouth.edu (Preston F. Crow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Macs and Ataris
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:37:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: dartvax.1992Nov9.213752.6340
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In <1992Nov9.035958.44537@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> moocow@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:

>I had noticed the post concerning a link between PC's and Ataris and I was
>wondering if a similar thing exists or is in the works for a link between
>Macs and Ataris. I still have my Atari 800 as well as a Macintosh LC and I
>was wondering  if there was any way to connect the Atari to the Mac and then
>run the Atari in its own window. And has anyone worked upon an Atari emulator
>for the Macintosh?

>thanks for your help, i understand either one of these possibilities are
>probably a bit far-fetched.

The SIO2PC device is a combination of hardware and software that allows a
PC to pretend to be a physical Atari drive.  The Atari's SIO signals are
translated into RS232 signals by the hardware device, and the PC software
interprets these signals and responds in such a way as to emulate an Atari
drive (or printer).  Unfortunatley, the PC software is (I believe) written
in assembly and is not publicly available, making it rather difficult to
port.

Theoretically, however, the device should work with any computer that can
send and receive RS232 signals.  [I don't know about Mac's--don't they use
RS432?  Does this matter?]  The issue is writing the software for the
server machine to interpret the signals.  If you are interested in writing
such software, I would suggest contacting Nick Kennedy, the creator of SIO2PC,
and asking for a copy of the PC code and any suggestions he may have.
Also, I beleive that others have done some work on writing their own software
for SIO2PC.  If their code is in C, it should be much easier to port.

Good luck.

--PC
--
preston.crow@dartmouth.edu
crow@nes.nersc.gov
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crow@coos.dartmouth.edu
From: v462etnn@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (David L Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Macs and Ataris
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:46:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov9.213752.6340@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, crow@coos.dartmouth.edu (Preston F. Crow) writes...
>In <1992Nov9.035958.44537@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> moocow@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> 
>The SIO2PC device is a combination of hardware and software that allows a
>PC to pretend to be a physical Atari drive.  The Atari's SIO signals are
>translated into RS232 signals by the hardware device, and the PC software
>interprets these signals and responds in such a way as to emulate an Atari
>drive (or printer).  Unfortunatley, the PC software is (I believe) written
>in assembly and is not publicly available, making it rather difficult to
>port.
SIO2PC is in the public domain (or maybe it's shareware).
It's available via anonymous FTP from atari archive (the
exact address escapes me right now).

It's been much improved and I believe the source code
comes w/ it.  If not, disassembly shouldn't be too much
of a problem.

David Anderson
From: dunham@mpd.tandem.com (Jerry Dunham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Atari Xformer source, anyone?
Date: 7 Nov 92 00:34:17 GMT
Reply-To: dunham@mpd.tandem.com (Jerry Dunham)
Organization: Tandem Computers, Inc., ISD

In article <68969@cup.portal.com> Rick_Michael_Cortese@cup.portal.com writes:

>Derek said he had U/L'd the source code to Genie a number of years ago.
>He currently works for MicroSoft so you may be able to reach him 
>@microsoft.com or something like that. You might just try phoning Branch
>Always Software at @(206)885-5893.

His address is darekm@microsoft.com.

-- 
Jerry Dunham                   DoF #1.5             dunham_jerry@tandem.com
Tandem Computers, Inc.                                dunham@mpd.tandem.com
Austin, TX                                                    (512)244-8598
                 This opinion intentionally left blank.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: gt8741b@prism.gatech.edu (Chris Adams)
Subject: Writing Atari disks on IBM PC's
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 03:49:32 GMT

How can I write Atari disks on an IBM PC?  I know that it is possible, but I
don't remember how.  Also, is there any way to format them on a PC?  It has
been almost 5 years since I used the Atari regularly, and the disks have all
gone bad.  Because of this, I have no way to boot the thing up!  What are the
versions of DOS used now?  What's the best?  I have an Atari 400 & an 800XL,
with and Indus GT disk drive.  If there isn't a way to write a bootable disk
on a PC, would someone be willing to mail me one?  I would really appreciate
it.
--
Chris Adams                       | "If tin whistles are made of tin,
Georgia Tech                      |  what do they make foghorns from?"
Internet: gt8741b@prism.gatech.edu|       --  Lonnie Donegan
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From: weiner@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (Jeff Weiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit,comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Problems at atari.archive.umich.edu
Date: 11 Nov 1992 13:00:11 -0500
Organization: Umich Atari Posse, In Full Effect
NNTP-Posting-Host: terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu


Here's a list of known problems that I (we) are working on to
remedy:

1.  There's no files in Applications/Perutls, Applications/Math,
Applications/Wordproc or Applications/Spreadsheets.  That was a
result of having to ftp everything over.  I just forgot about 'em.

2.  There's very few editors in Editors.  Similar problem to 
the above.

3.  On occasion, you'll get server not responding errors.  This is
because there was an air conditioner problem in the machine room.  I
think this is all better now.

4.  Bart doesn't work.  We're still looking for a host machine for
it to run on.

5.  I've been particularly angry at people posting questions about
the archive to comp.sys.atari.st.  This is because the problem
reports should be going to me, not the world, who can't do much 
about it.

6.  On occasion, particular volumes in the archive won't be working.
I don't know why this happens, other than the fact that each
root level directory is mounted on a separate disk.  It is 
possible that each of the disks could go down for backup individually
from time to time.  (Along with other possibilities I haven't even
dreamed of yet).



In short, this is a new experience for me too.  I'd appreciate people
letting me know, by mail, of any and all problems that they
have.  I'll try to remedy them as best as my schedule and
physical location (I'm 700 miles away from umich now) will permit.


Jeff
-- 
 -  Jeff Weiner  -  weiner@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu  -  Umich Atari Posse  -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: snyder10@convex1.tcs.tulane.edu (sherry snyder)
Subject: TurboBasic 3.2q...
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-28788]: convex1.tcs.tulane.edu
Organization: Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 07:04:10 GMT

I don't know if there is any interest but, I just received from Tom Hunt
of Closer To Home BBS a version of TurboBasic that will load and run 
with SpartaDos 3.2d (or any of the patched versions that are out there).

This version will run just as fast as the current version (1.5) however, 
this version can not be compiled.  From what I've been told, if a program
is compiled using Compiler.com, it uses the ram under Dos and causes 
Sparta 3.2d to lock up.

Now, Tom is looking for the Source code for TurboBasic 1.5XL if it is 
out there.  What he wants to do is patch it to work with any dos.  
If anyone knows where it can be found or if you have a copy of the source
code, plese send me a copy so I can get it to Tom.  

Thanks

Mike
Atari Archive
Louisiana
From: niceswangern@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: SX212 & Homewriter 10 Printer ?'s
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:34:57 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

Hello,

	This is my first post to this newsgroup.  I have an Atari 800XL at 
home that I used to use A LOT, but once I got into high school and college, 
I didn't get much time to use it.  I still get a few catalogs from certain 
companies, though.  The other day I noticed that B&C is selling the SX212 
modem for $30.  
	My question is : If I buy the "SX-Express Modem Software Package", 
will this be the only extra thing I'll need to buy to use this modem?  
Also, what are the costs nowadays for using the modem [subscribing to 
certain services, etc.]?

	Another unrelated question ... A long time ago I bought an Epson 
Homewriter-10 printer and hooked it up to my 1050 disk drive with an Epson 
Interface (Part #8692AA).  Everything has worked fine on it, except for the 
fact that it won't print ANY graphics whatsoever.  I have several programs 
like Cardware and such, as well as lots of pictures from AtariArtist that 
I'd like to print, but can't.  Would a new interface help the problem?  
(This printer does support graphics, by the way.)  Maybe the ICD printer 
cable will work?  
	Well, that's enuff questions.  I'd appreciate ANY responses.  
Either e-mail them here or just post them.  Thanks a kazillion.

				Nate Niceswanger
				Somers, Iowa, U.S.A.
From: phbill@cyberden.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: PIC (atari) format ---> BMP (pc) format????
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 18:40:32 PST
Organization: Indescribable Creations

Well, if you know how to load the PIC files correctly (the extenders have 
gotten all confused in the past 10 years..), it would SEEM that BMPs'd be 
easy to make.  The two types of ".PIC"s I know of are standard memory 
dumps (dumping 7680 bytes of screen memory straight to the disk, and then 
added the 4 color register values.. this is for a Graphics 15 (aka 7.5 
and 7+) screen), and the "Koala" style, compressed, files.

I guess it'd be a good idea to bug IBM gurus on the format of BMP 
files...  

later

--
Bill Kendrick   :   PhBill@Cyberden.UUCP        Currently working on GDesk
From: tgreen@iastate.edu (Todd Greenfield)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: ATARI EMULATOR FOR THE PC? Please!
Date: 7 Nov 92 17:30:21 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

In <1df49vINNi9p@aludra.usc.edu> jleon@usc.edu (Juan Carlos Leon) writes:

>Is there any Atari 8bit emulator for the PC? I've seen an emulator for the
>apple II and as far as I know it uses the same microprocessor like atari.
>I'm asking this because I've been an atari user for 8 years, now I have a 486
>PC (I still have my 130XE) and I want to be able to use my hundreds of atari
>programs/games on my PC.

As I understand it, there was one written, but it was never released
due to legal difficulties with the OS code.  Not sure if it was 
completed, or just being developed.

>Also, can anybody point me to a ftp site where to find a program that could 
>let me read atari disks on the PC?

atari.archive.umich.edu is the site for 8bit stuff, in atari/8bit
directory.  It's also mirrored on wuarchive.wustl.edu, I forget 
which dir.  There are several programs on the archive which will
allow you to read and possibly write atari *double density* disks
on the PC.  I think the FAQ has descriptions of these (??)

hope that helps.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: ab588@yfn.ysu.edu (joseph sabatino)
Subject: xf35 vs. bob puffs conversion???
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:39:51 GMT


My 
sparta x cart supports the bob wooley rom...I know that the xf35
kit sold by I.C. has that rom but does the kit sold by Bob Puff
have such an animal??? Does the bob puff conversion to 720k drives
support high speed i/o??
-- 
Joe Sabatino-->ab588@yfn.ysu.edu
From: crow@coos.dartmouth.edu (Preston F. Crow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Macs and Ataris
Date: 10 Nov 92 03:37:51 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In <BxH64F.Lxy@acsu.buffalo.edu> v462etnn@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (David L Anderson) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.213752.6340@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, crow@coos.dartmouth.edu (Preston F. Crow) writes...
>>The SIO2PC device is a combination of hardware and software that allows a
>>PC to pretend to be a physical Atari drive.  The Atari's SIO signals are
>>translated into RS232 signals by the hardware device, and the PC software
>>interprets these signals and responds in such a way as to emulate an Atari
>>drive (or printer).  Unfortunatley, the PC software is (I believe) written
>>in assembly and is not publicly available, making it rather difficult to
>>port.

>SIO2PC is in the public domain (or maybe it's shareware).
Shareware.  Not public domain.
>It's available via anonymous FTP from atari archive (the
>exact address escapes me right now).

>It's been much improved and I believe the source code
>comes w/ it.  If not, disassembly shouldn't be too much
>of a problem.

Last I heard, Nick Kennedy wasn't very excited about people looking at his
source.  I think that's what the documentation says.  Anyway, if you
want the source, I think you need to contact him.

Disassembly is a big problem if you don't have a PC.  The assembly code
is 8088 assembly, not 6502, so the person looking to port the software to
another platform has a real challenge.  And for most programmers, the idea
of porting an assembly language program isn't very exciting.  I would
suspect that most would find re-writing it in C would be the best bet.
What is really needed is a list of the signals that the RS232 port needs to
read and send, along with information on necessary delays.

--PC
--
Only be careful, and watch yourselves closely so that you do not forget the
things your eyes have seen or let them slip from your heart as long as you
live.  Teach them to your children and to their children after them.
Remember the day you stood before the Lord your God...       --Deut 4:9-10a
From: Tim.Gearin@f47.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Tim Gearin)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Speedin up the Atari
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 00:22:02 -0600

Also another factor I ment to menchon in my last post is that what if the custom
chips and 6502 cannot work at a much faster clock rate?  I know with the older
IBMs thats true because the integrated components need time to get charged or
dis-charged.  

 * Origin: FlightLine BBS {MSP}MN USRdual 612-544-5118 (1:282/47)
From: phbill@cyberden.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Latest version of MyDos?
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 18:37:20 PST
Organization: Indescribable Creations

I have v.'s 4.53/3 and 4.53/4 (those are right, right?).  The "/3" and 
"/4" tell how many digits are listed for file size.  I may one day decide 
to switch to "/3" (I started my MyDOS life with the "/4" version, and 
just lately got a hold of "/3") because it'd be more compatible with 
programs like AtariWriter (that way I could see how big files are, not 
just CLOSE to how big they are).  BTW: I've never had problems booting 
MyDOS and then binary loading "AUTORUN.SYS" on the AtariWriter+ disk (or 
did you mention a patch for AtariWriter? (the cart. one) (is there a 
cart. version of AW+ as well?))

Anyways... have fun.    also, look for "MyNI_DOS", my MyDOS CLI... it's 
still in the works though.

--
Bill Kendrick   :   PhBill@Cyberden.UUCP        Currently working on GDesk
From: Rick_Michael_Cortese@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Writing Atari disks on IBM PC's
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 10:17:12 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

If don't get any better offers, I can send you a disk in double density
format with an older version of Mydos along with some utilities. I could
discomm a standard Atari DOS 2.5 & put it on the same disk with some
utilities. I'm getting a little better on my I/O. It's only taking me a 
month or two to get stuff out now<g>.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: gt8741b@prism.gatech.edu (Chris Adams)
Subject: Atari Emulator for PC minus ROM's
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 03:43:33 GMT

I know, this gets asked a lot, and I have seen the answer that because of legal
reasons, an emulator can't be released.  How about releasing one that requires
the operating system to be stored in a disk file?  I own two old Atari's: a 400
and an 800XL, and I have several things on them that still pass what I can get
on a PC (games, Games, GAMES).  An emulator could be released that emulated
the hardware and the chip, but the user has to supply the operating system.
That's how some of the old Translator Disks worked, especially the Analog one.
You had to copy the old operating system to a disk.  I think that this would be
legal.  I own an HP 48SX calculator, and when someone wrote an emulator for it,
that's how they did it.  I have a copy of my ROM's in a disk file.

If someone could at least tell me the name and email address of the author, I
might try to contact him.  Thanks!
--
Chris Adams                       | "If tin whistles are made of tin,
Georgia Tech                      |  what do they make foghorns from?"
Internet: gt8741b@prism.gatech.edu|       --  Lonnie Donegan
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: mreichl@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Matthias Reichl)
Subject: Re: Writing Atari disks on IBM PC's
Organization: University of Salzburg / Austria
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 09:42:16 GMT

About one year ago i wrote a program (for PCs) to read, write AND FORMAT
disks  for the XL (only double density - like the other existing programs
to access XL-Disks).
There is only one problem: if you are using an AT with a HD (1.2MB) drive
- remember: HD disks rotate with 360 RPM instead of the usual 300 RPM -
it is unsave writing to disks formatted on the XL. Formatting disks on
the PC causes no problems (reading & writing with the XL is ok).

The program is menu-driven but cannot handle MYDOS-SubDirs.
I'm currently working on a new version including 3.5" HD-Disks and MYDOS
SubDirs.

If anyone is interested, please mail. (Sourcecode is in TopSpeed Modula 2,  
Version 1.17)

so long,
         Hias
From: phbill@cyberden.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Help with Bobterm and Hayes 2400 modem
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 14:58:24 PST
Organization: Indescribable Creations

Re: problems with Bobterm dialing...

I was wondering, did Bob Puff write BobTerm's dial menu?  I seem to 
recall reading somewhere (BT's docs?) that the dial menu was by someone 
else.. (maybe this was another term program, though).  Anyways..  is it 
just me, or does anybody else think that the dial menu even LOOKS as 
though someone else wrote it?

Also, has Bob released any newer versions of SuperARC/unARC and DiskComm? 

thanx

--
Bill Kendrick   :   PhBill@Cyberden.UUCP        Currently working on GDesk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Searching for OASIS Sysop in new Zealand
From: Dawn_Scotting@kcbbs.gen.nz (Dawn Scotting)
Date: 8 Nov 92 04:51:59 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

the.patryn@genie.geis.com writes:   
>I am trying to get in touch with an Oasis Sysop in New Zealand  
>whose SysOp handle is Pandora and her first name is Dawn.  If you  
>read this Dawn, could you email me through Internet at the  
>following address:  
>  
>    THE.PATRYN@genie.geis.com  
  
Hi Steve & Hiram, I will reply to you via email but I thought I would  
send this in the newsgroup just in case it doesn't get through. I'm a  
bit suspicious of the first part of your address with the full stop in  
it, I have a sneaky feeling it won't be accepted, anyway I'll have a go  
right now!  
PS Unfortunately I'm not an Oasis Sysop anymore!  
Cheers.....Dawn  
   
          <--------------------------------------------->  
          < Kia Ora from Aotearoa. Pandora@kcbbs.gen.nz >  
 >->->->->>   Please DO NOT QUOTE ANYTHING back to me   <<-<-<-<-<  
          <--------------------------------------------->
From: jleon@usc.edu (Juan Carlos Leon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Comments on XE/XL memory upgrade?
Date: 7 Nov 92 21:49:52 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu

Hi again!
	I've found on the atari ftp site two files about upgrading the memory
in a XL or XE machine (addmema.arc & addmemb.arc) and I was thinking
in doing one of this upgrades.
	Can anybody give me some comments about this?  I have a 800XL and a
130XE at home, is it better to upgrade the XE? or the XL?  I mean which one
will handle the upgrade smoothier.  Is there really an advantage in doing this?

I will apreciate any response.

Juan Leon.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: entropy@gnu.ai.mit.edu (maximum entropy)
Subject: Re: Atari Xformer source, anyone?
Organization: Not Proud Programmers
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:00:17 GMT

In article <68969@cup.portal.com> Rick_Michael_Cortese@cup.portal.com writes:
>Derek said he had U/L'd the source code to Genie a number of years ago.
>He currently works for MicroSoft so you may be able to reach him 
>@microsoft.com or something like that. You might just try phoning Branch
>Always Software at @(206)885-5893. If you just hang out here & in the ST
>sig, eventually he well rear his ugly head to accuse us of all being
>thieves, pirates, & stupid. Years ago someone told me he was an anal
>sphincter. I argued that he wasn't, I was wrong. I still have to get
>back to that guy & admit he was right.

The source code he gave out was for a much older version.  No I
haven't actually seen it myself.  I tried to get source code from
Darek at one point and although he didn't tell me I was an anal
sphincter, he did his best to try to make me feel like one.
(Basically he said that Xformer was as good as it could ever be, and
could not be improved, therefore morons like me who thought they could
improve it weren't worth the 15 minutes it would take him to upload
the code.)

To anyone trying to get source for Xformer, or anything else, from
Darek...don't waste your time.

Cheers,
entropy
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From: Rick_Michael_Cortese@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Trying to get a working term prg
Date: Fri,  6 Nov 92 10:40:11 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <Bx3Fp5.1vo@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>
  <92308.151035JJMCWILL@MTUS5.BITNET>
  <Bx75tv.9v0@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>

The problem may be(I addition to others<g>) Atari in their infinite wisdom
decided that since an 850 interface is an "R:" device, a modem well be a "T:"
(for telephone) device ergo some stuff that looks for a "R:" will get
confused by only having a "T:" there. Ditto for stuff looking for a "T:"
& finding a "R:". I just checked my handler & it's 2.5k so typing it in is
out of the question. Where are you & how are you currently getting the
programs to the Atari (my VP impression)? If you send me your address, I
could probably mail you a copy of the thing.