HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: markr@mot.com (Mark)
Subject: Re: Mattel on women
Reply-To: markr@mcil.comm.mot.com
Organization: MCIL
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 08:53:32 GMT
Keywords: Targetting females once again.

In article <1992Oct9.171713.4552@cbfsb.cb.att.com> colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten) writes:
>In article <1992Oct9.133325.6516@cbnewsd.cb.att.com>, nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>> In article <1992Oct9.022704.24521@unixg.ubc.ca> schultz@unixg.ubc.ca (Stewart Schultz) writes:
>> >In article <1992Oct7.173414.18001@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>
>> >bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris) writes:
>> >
>> >>Any ideas for nice things a 'Barbie' _could_ actually say about math? 
>> 
>> Nothing.
>> >
>> [What Barbie could say:]
>> >Math is interesting!
>> 
>> Why should she lie?  Math is boring and absurd.  :-)  At least
>> I though so, and I've done fairly well in life without it thank you.
>> 
>> >In Barbie Land, math class is just another event to get dressed up 
>> >for, after all.
>> 
>> Hey, what's wrong with shimmery short skirts?  If you've got
>> it, be proud of it.  :-)
>> 
>> -Nance
>> -- 
>
>All this debate on what Barbie has to say about Math class.  STill
>one question remains unanswered - what does Ken have to say about
>all this?

Barbie decided she doesn't need a man in her life and will do quite
fine without one. (as well as without math class)

Mark
Newsgroups: soc.men,soc.women,sci.physics,sci.math
From: farthing@leland.Stanford.EDU (ljf)
Subject: Re: Mattel on women
Keywords: Targetting females once again.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 22:18:21 GMT

In article <1b60kjINNako@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> schultz@unixg.ubc.ca (Stewart Schultz) writes:
>It might be more of a public relations than a marketing mistake.
>I just saw a news report on the story, in which a Jean McKenzie
>(public relations, Mattel) was interviewed.  She said that only
>one (1) doll had been returned so far.  She may have been lying, er..
>misstating, but you'd think from all the outcry that hundreds
>or maybe a few thousand had been returned.  The loudest critics
>seem to be the American Association of University Women (dunno if
>I got the name right), but they haven't hurt the sales any.

Part of that may come from the fact that, if the Barbie is returned,
the customer receives a non-talking Barbie (of less value).

Xref: sparky soc.men:17563 talk.politics.misc:50699
From: gt7994a@prism.gatech.EDU (ORMOND,SEAN PATRICK)
Newsgroups: soc.men,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: We, The Persons
Date: 10 Oct 92 02:48:34 GMT
Followup-To: soc.men
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

>In article <1992Oct4.185207.10636@mr.med.ge.com> larry@ducktales.med.ge.com (Larry Landwehr) writes:
>>At the same time many words that used to be perfectly acceptable
>>have fallen into disfavor or have been banned from public speech. 

No kidding!  Anyone want to admit to being a secretary?  We had one in our
office who insisted on being called an...ahem..."Executive Assistant".
Amazing what people will do to build their self-esteem!  Sort of like
calling yourself an "African American" so as to distinguish yourself
from "Ordinary Americans".  Consequently, blacks will gain some sort
of cultural pride which will inevitably lead to higher SAT scores and a
rich and productive life...right!  

>>We no longer talk of "sex".  We speak of "gender".  We call people
>>"the homeless" instead of "bums" and "hobos" even if it is a
>>voluntary "lifestyle".

"Disadvantaged" is a favorite with the media.  "Less fortunate" is
another.  The media will absolutely NEVER acknowledge the fact that 
there are many bums out there who simply refuse to work and deserve to
live the way they do.  This is precisely the reason why we will never solve
the poverty problem - people want to blame everyone but them.  I believe
Rush has a much more accurate ephemism: "human debris".

>>Companies place advertisements that say "equal opportunity
>>employer" and "affirmative action" in the same ad and yet we see
>>no logical conflict.

The last two private "equal opportunity employers" I worked for engaged
in blatant reverse discrimination.  How would you feel if your boss, hiring
a new employee, told you, "I know he's the most qualifed, but he's a nigger,
and I ain't hiring no niggers!"?  That's pretty much how I felt when my
boss told me the new employee was going to be the least qualified applicant.
She was, however, a black woman and my boss explained to me that we 
would be satisfying both minorities with one employee.  If it matters,
she disappeared after two weeks of lousy work and we never heard from
her again.  The troublesome thing is that many blacks think this form
of discrimination is a just compensation for their ancestors' enslavement.
I heard some blacks discussing this on a recent news/talk show and nearly
fell out of my chair.  AA and quota bills are, in reality, a slap in the 
face to black America.  Just another way for Congress to tell you that
you cannot succeed on your own; you can't prosper without them!  Sounds
like a great way to stay in power, if you ask me...

-- 
Sean P. Ormond
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp:	  ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt7994a
Internet: gt7994a@prism.gatech.edu
From: erik@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Erik Lode)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:56:06 GMT
Subject: Re: Affirmative Action (Re: The Politics Of Appeasement)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: soc.men

beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver) writes:

> I'm not so sure.  Are (white) male nurses on the rise, for example? 
> White male secretaries?  Stats, anyone?  I'm just as curious.

  How about day care workers?  (People who actually work with the children,
not janitors, drivers, administrators, etc.)

  I am reminded of an article in the local newspaper about how school
teachers are predominantly white females, and that the district was
possibly considering encouraging more male elementary school teachers.

Xref: sparky soc.men:17757 soc.women:17752 misc.kids:26104 alt.child-support:3486 alt.dads-rights:2456
From: btwomey@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (william.tw0mey)
Subject: Re: Choice for men: moving beyond anti-feminism
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:19:20 GMT

In article <1b05o5INNjkh@golem.wcc.govt.nz> pilcher_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
...

>why is always the woman who has to suffer, ie have chemicals like the
pill put >into them, and possibly do damage to their bodies, or have
major operations >just to stay infertile when all the guy has to is put
on a condom and take some >responsibility for a change > 

>so there!

Why is that people talk about how women are oppressed by men,
when the decision on what birth control is made by the ~couple~?
Are you claiming that women are weak, feeble-minded darlings that
just take instructions from their partners?

Criminy, the woman participates in the decision process.  She accedes
to the man's request not to use a condom, or not to get a vasectomy or
not to wait.  If she is being opppressed, it is by herself!

BTW an interesting turnabout:
Why is it always the man who has to suffer, ie have worse health,
more stress, higher incidence of on the job injury, face more
likelihood of assault and have shorter lifespans, and have less
opportunity to be with the children, when all that the gal has to
do is get a job or a second job or work someover time, and provide 
some (more) support to the family?

Bill Twomey

-- 
bt@violin.att.com

Bill's Law on Netnews discussions:
"If a poster's name is in the Subject, its not worth reading."
Xref: sparky soc.men:17785 soc.singles:27895
From: sichase@csa3.lbl.gov (SCOTT I CHASE)
Newsgroups: soc.men,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Mattel on women
Followup-To: soc.men,soc.singles
Date: 15 Oct 1992 14:44 PST
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.198
Keywords: Targetting females once again.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1992Oct15.153417.12459@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>, bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris) writes...
> 
>I have a roughly similar story from the male point of view.  I knew a couple
>of guys who liked the 'bar' social scene.  They were fellow Electrical
>Engineers, but whenever they talked to a woman at a bar, they always answered
>that they were garbage truck drivers when asked what they did, to avoid
>scaring them away before they had a chance to talk.  (It also generated a
>topic for conversation at the same time - i.e. "No, what do you really do?"

When I was an undergrad at MIT, it was fairly common, when you went to 
a party at another school, to claim that you went to BU.  That gave you 
a chance to get to know the girl *before* she decided that you were so
smart that she couldn't think of anything to say to you.  You wouldn't
believe how many young women were surprised to find out that I went 
to MIT - because I was interested in the same things she was.  I think 
that they expected MIT men to talk in equations or something.

-Scott
--------------------
Scott I. Chase			"It is not a simple life to be a single cell,
SICHASE@CSA2.LBL.GOV		 although I have no right to say so, having
				 been a single cell so long ago myself that I 
				 have no memory at all of that stage of my 
				 life." - Lewis Thomas
Newsgroups: soc.men
From: forbes@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Jeff Forbes)
Subject: Re: CONDOMS! and AIDS
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 01:34:09 GMT

pepke@ds1.scri.fsu.edu (Eric Pepke) writes:

talk about condomn deleted.

>On the other hand, life is full of risks.  Getting into a car is probably the
>biggest risk people take every day.  People wear seat belts, even though they
>haven't been shown to reduce the risk of dying by more than 50%.  The trick
>is to manage your risks so that you walk a path between recklessness and
>obsession.

Yes, but most people don't drive their car into walls to see if the
seatbelt is going to save them. The analogy is just not there. The condomn
is designed to prevet commingling of bodily fluids, the possibility of
which is ever present during intercourse. The seatbelt is meant to reduce the
chance of ones brain and the tarmak from commingling when the wrong trajectory
is taken, which hopefully is not an ever present situation.

-- 
Jeff Forbes

"....I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
			Thomas Edison
Xref: sparky soc.men:17618 soc.women:17611 soc.singles:27549
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.men,soc.women,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Book Rec.: _Bodies: Overcoming the Tyranny of Perfection_
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:18:25 GMT
Followup-To: soc.men
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Oct6.182356.26289@beaver.cs.washington.edu> dbj@cs.washington.edu (Dave Johnson) writes:
>I always thought Beer was a complete food group unto itself.
 
Of course it is.  That's why one of the major Beer manufacturers uses the
slogan "the banquet of Beers" on it's can.

"Beer. It's not just for breakfast anymore."
-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira     | Auspex Systems | "Auspex does not share my opinions.  |
| johnf@auspex.com | Santa Clara CA |  So Why am I still working here?"    |
+==========================================================================+
Newsgroups: soc.men,soc.women
From: chrz@tellabs.com (Peter Chrzanowski)
Subject: Re: INTERFAITH MARRIAGES
Followup-To: '
Organization: Tellabs, Inc.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:12:40 GMT

In article <92284.140340IK20050@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, <IK20050@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
> Hi!
> I wanted to ask a question of all you netters out there.
> DO interfaith marriages usually work?  (By interfaith, I
> mean, two different denominations of Christianity, say...
> Catholic and Protestant..or Catholic and Mormon?)  What if
> your spouse "bashes" your religion and won't allow you to attend
> the church of your choice, because she or he believes that only
> their church is right (religious bigotism)...What do you do then?

 If you haven't gotten married yet then it would seem like a real
 good idea (IMHO) to wait until these issues have been resolved.

 If you are married and don't wish to initiate divorce then you decide
 what you can control, and what you can't.

 It's not up to your spouse to "allow" you to attend church: do so
 if you wish, or not if you don't.  Perhaps your spouse will divorce
 you if you attend the "wrong" church,  or just act obnoxious:
 that's your spouse's choice, just as your religion is your choice.

 You can't control whether your spouse will divorce you or how your
 spouse will act.  You certainly can't control what your spouse thinks
 about your religion, or even what your spouse says about your religion.

> How do you get the other person to respect your faith and to love
> you for what you are, regardless of religion?


  You cannot "get" another to respect your faith, nor can you
  "get" another to love you for what you are.  Respect and love
  are things which may be offered or not: they are not things you
  can get by demanding them.

> i need help on this urgently!!!  Thanks......me.

 If you're being pressured into a marriage you're uneasy about,
 JUST SAY NO.  If this person thinks you're worth it they'll
 stick around; if not you'll be better off without them.

BTW, is it also YOUR intention to control your spouse's religion?
 
Newsgroups: soc.men,alt.child-support,alt.dads-rights
From: yasu@ll.mit.edu (Alan Yasutovich)
Subject: Local support groups in Mass.
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 18:38:54 GMT


	Does anyone have the addresses of local father support
	groups in Mass.?

-- 
	Alan Yasutovich
	"inquiring  (and nosey) minds WANT TO KNOW!!!"
	I can remember when "safe sex" meant having a padded headboard!!
	Tick Tock.....Tick Tock......Tick Tock .....Tick Tock......
Newsgroups: soc.men,soc.women
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: [Pet Peeves] What irritates you or your partner?
Organization: my opinions only
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:40:29 GMT


In article <1aa7dpINNnmo@gap.caltech.edu> peri@cco.caltech.edu
(Michal Leah Peri) writes:
>In a previous apartment I had the toilet seat rigged so that it
>would suddenly come slamming down.  Boy you should've seen then jump!

Nothing a little crazy glue won't fix...

(A friend of mine had a seat like that once.  After she told me that
it was intentional, to prevent visitors from forgetting to put it
down, I left it up.  (Friction, not glue))

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
From: besson@cmu.unige.ch
Subject: Reference services
Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:00:29 GMT

I'm trying to find informations about Reference sevices on 
REFERENCE MANAGER.

May you help me...

Thanks in advance.

Mariethe.

--------------------------------------------------------------
Besson@cmu.unige.ch
Newsgroups: soc.libraries.talk
From: aldridge@netcom.com (Jacquelyn Aldridge)
Subject: Re: more about sexology bibliographies
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 11:46:44 GMT

kadie@eff.org (Carl M. Kadie) writes:

>cbs@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Chris Syed) writes:

>[...]
>>   Somebody suggested posting to the sex related newsgroups. I'd be
>>   happy to post "new acquisitions" lists. Any suggestions? I want
>>   this to go to librarians or serious users, not novelty-seekers -
>>   just because i don't want to get into too much followup. 
>[...]

>Please not assume that readers of alt.sex are nonserious,
>novelty-seekers. At least try posting there for a while.

>- Carl
>-- 
>Carl Kadie -- I do not represent EFF; this is just me.

	But there might be a lot of followup. I would add a note saying
"search your library's catalog for readily available books" and probably a
statement saying that you won't serve requests (unless you want to).
	I don't think the people on alt.sex are novelty-seekers but there
is a lot of followup activity. It is a good place for posting such
information though since it has an incredibly high level of readership.
Jackie
Aldridge

Newsgroups: no.test
From: Erik Naggum <enag@ifi.uio.no>
Date: 10 Oct 1992 22:43:19 +0100
Subject: Re: TEST

Jon Orten <jon.orten@thcave.no> writes:
|
|   ACJoa, den kom fram den.
|
|   Flotte greier. Men det er ikke n|dvnedig } 'qoute' hele meldingen n}r
|   man svarer!
|   ---
|     OLX 2.2  Thunderball Cave BBS - InterNet - jon.orten@thcave.no

Det er hyggelig } se at ting virker for dere, men v{r s} vennlig }
respektere at "nettet" ikke er 8-bit, og ihvertfall ikke snakker IBM
Code Page 865.  Du mente sikkert IBM GCGID SF090000 og SM470000, ogs}
kjent som henholdsvis "Right Middle Box Side" og "Solid Square/Square
Bullet/Histogram" i IBMs ord.  Ikke at _det_ kom frem til andre enn de
som ogs} bruker IBM CP 865.  Jeg fikk f.eks. se "ACUTE ACCENT" og "LATIN
SMALL LETTER THORN" istedet, fordi jeg bruker ISO 8859-1:1987 (ISO Latin
1).  Mange kommer til } se meldingen din med "4" og "~" fordi de bare
har 7-bits kommunikasjonskanal eller tegnsett.  Det blir ikke helt det
samme _grafiske_ inntrykket av det.

Det tar gjerne litt tid } oppdage at det gjelder en hel del konvensjoner
om hvordan informasjon skal utveksles n}r man kommer "p} nett", og hva
slags koding man gir ting.  Disse konvensjoner er ment } skalere over
_minst_ 7 st|rrelsesordener (fra 1 til 10 000 000 brukere).  Da er det
opplagt at man ikke kan bruke argumentet "det virker/ser bra ut for
meg".

Sp|rsm}let man m} stille seg, er "vil dette virke uansett hva slags
terminal, maskin og tegnsett mottageren har i det omr}det jeg |nsker }
sende det ut?", og s|rge for } te seg slik at svaret er "ja".  Det betyr
respekt for tegnsett og andre konvensjoner.

</Erik>
Newsgroups: no.vr
From: Mortenso@ulrik.uio.no (Morten Soby)
Subject: Seminar
Organization: PFI/UiO
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:23:16 GMT

pent teoriseminar ved Pedagogisk forskningsinstitutt(UiO): 

Det digitale mennesket -liv og lre i virtuelle rom

Seminaret gr mandag kl.13.15- 15.00, SV-fak./Helga Engs hus,  rom C-425
Start: 12 oktober   Deretter: 19/10, 2/11 og 9/11

Kursansvarlig: Morten Sby (PFI)

Tema:
 Cyberspace
 Sosialisering og lring
 Postmoderne kulturteori 

"To connect or not to connect is the question"


Newsgroups: no.vitser
From: larshaug@ifi.uio.no (Lars Haugseth)
Subject: Re:  lei av fisk
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:27:05 GMT
Originator: larshaug@dyggve.ifi.uio.no


In article <1992Oct9.104435.19779@news.uit.no>, paale@stud.cs.uit.no (Paal Ellingsen) writes:
> In article <1992Oct8.191817.19620@ifi.uio.no>, Magnum! writes:
> |> Har du hrt om mannen som var s lei av fisk at han hadde
> |> fisk i aquariumet?
> |> 
> |> He - He 
> 
> Det er mulig at jeg er litt utenfor, men jeg trode han hadde POELSER i akvariet...
> 

Du maa da skjoenne at han hadde fisken oppi akvariumet for at den
skulle SPISE de andre fiskene..... :)

Lars H
Newsgroups: no.vitser
From: Loyd Rudlende <loydr@ifi.uio.no>
Subject: Re: varulv
        of Fri, 09 Oct 92 13:21:06 EDT
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
        <00961D5E.2345B2A0@FHYDRA.FYSEL.UNIT.NO>
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:07:55 GMT
Originator: loydr@gode.ifi.uio.no


F|r var jeg varulv, men det har gitt seg naaoooooouuuuuuuu.

Loyd R
Newsgroups: no.vitser
From: endres@ifi.uio.no
Subject: Re: lei av fisk
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 00:51:21 GMT
Originator: endres@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no


In article <1992Oct09.171129.12805W@skylark.edb.tih.no>, arntj@edb.tih.no (Arnt Harald Johansen,o91b) writes:
> In article <1992Oct9.104435.19779@news.uit.no>, paale@stud.cs.uit.no (Paal Ellingsen) writes:
> 
> 
> >In article <1992Oct8.191817.19620@ifi.uio.no>, Magnum! writes:
> >|> Har du hrt om mannen som var s lei av fisk at han hadde
> >|> fisk i aquariumet?
> >|> 
> >|> He - He 
> >
> >Det er mulig at jeg er litt utenfor, men jeg trode han hadde POELSER i akvariet...
> >
> >
> >                                                                Paale
> >
> Enig med siste taler.......
> 
> The one and only
> Arnt Harald Johansen
> -- 
> Don't hate yourself in the morning - sleep till noon 
> Arnt Harald Johansen  -  arntj@edb.tih.no 
> Erling Skakkesgt 49 b, 7013  TRONDHEIM (TLF: 07 51 34 82, soon to come...)
> Burakvn 10, 6650  SURNADAL  TLF: 07 36 18 79

--------------


Ok - Ok   Skrivefeil fra min side ........

Beklager - Beklager  

Det er foerste gang jeg holder paa med dette her.....

Hilsen    Jeg som skrev vitsen
From: matthias@ucsd.edu (Matthias Blume)
Newsgroups: sdnet.rideshare
Subject: Welcome to sdnet.rideshare!
Date: 15 Oct 1992 21:11:14 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
Distribution: world
Reply-To: matthias@ucsd.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: topcad.ucsd.edu




Hello!  Welcome to the new sdnet.rideshare bulletin board.

If you are looking for:
	someone to car pool with to Escondido,
	someone to ride with you to Barstow (and share gas expenses),
	a ride to Iguana's,
	someone to join you on a two-for-the-price-of-one airfare to Seattle,
	...
then this is the place to post it!

Hopefully this group will help reduce your cost of traveling and the amount of time you spend behind the wheel.  Hopefully it will also contribute to reducing the freeway traffic jams and the amount of gasoline we turn into exhaust each day by reducing the number of underpopulated cars on the road.  


A couple of suggestions:

1. Try to make it easy for other users to scan the newsgroup by putting the
   salient information in the subject line.  For example,
	Ride wanted to Santa Barbara 10/31
	RT available to Bishop  10/29x10/31
	Car pool to Cardiff

2. If don't want to subscribe because you don't anticipate looking for rideshare
   partners frequently, you can still use the newsgroup by posting your needs
   and reading the group only when you are looking for a partner.


What can you do besides looking for rides and/or people to occupy your half-empty automobile?  Tell your friends about sdnet.rideshare.  The more people use the newsgroup, the better it will work.

I would appreciate your suggestions for improvements.  Thanks,

	Matthias Blume
	matthias@ucsd.edu
From: rlk@VisiCom.COM (Bob Kitzberger)
Newsgroups: sdnet.wanted
Subject: Re: Where can I buy good maple syrup in San Diego?
Date: 10 Oct 92 01:07:49 GMT
Distribution: sdnet

In article <1am0bsINN6e8@network.ucsd.edu> mbh@sdphu1.ucsd.edu (Matt Harrington) writes:
>
>I really miss the great maple syrup that I could get back east.  I
>haven't seen anything but synthetic syrups in the grocery stores.  Does
>anyone know where I can get it?
>
>--Matt Harrington

Check ouyt Trader Joe's (Pacific Beach, La Jolla Village Square)>  They've
got both light and dark amber, with great prices.

	.Bob.
----------------
Bob Kitzberger          VisiCom Laboratories, Inc.
rlk@visicom.com         10052 Mesa Ridge Court, San Diego CA 92121 USA
                        +1 619 457 2111    FAX +1 619 457 0888
From: mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley)
Newsgroups: sdnet.general
Subject: Re: FOXPRO: Is there an E-mail support group?
Summary: Sorta and Yes
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 23:23:08 PDT
Distribution: sdnet
Organization: Muth Valley Seismic Control District, San Diego, CA / Port2

markr@sound.cts.com (Mark B. Reinhold) writes:

> First I use foxpro and have been using it since foxbase. I
> started the Foxpro Echo on Fidonet before I left. We could start
> an e-mail group if you want.

Good Idea.


> There is one: shevett@amber.mccc.edu (Dave SHevett), but he has
> never answered my subscription request and I have never seen
> anything come out of there in the last month

I have since found the above also.  I mailed to it and it bounced
(18 hops).  Prior to finding it I went ahead (based on positive
E-Mail) and started a list.

Signup:  Mail-Server@slic.cts.com
         In the body, enter SUBSCRIBE foxpro-l

Submissions:  foxpro-l@slic.cts.com

Hope this takes off.  I need some hand-holding.  I'll still try
to contact shevett for the status on that list.


--
     Mike, WB6WUI   //   INET:  mikey@slic.cts.com   //   GEnie: SLIC