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From: merritt@macro.bu.edu (Sean Merritt)
Newsgroups: alt.skinheads
Subject: Re: I'M HERE TO STAY!
Date: 10 Dec 92 17:40:11 GMT
	<ByzzMt.4Mq@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
	<Dec09.202114.37078@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Organization: Boston University Physics Department
In-reply-to: bg083052@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu's message of 9 Dec 92 20:21:14 GMT

In article <Dec09.202114.37078@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> bg083052@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Ben Guggenheimer) writes:


   In article <ByzzMt.4Mq@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, lmn52210@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ramona) writes:
   |> What?  Someone finally got the hint!  Thanks for seeing the
   |> obvious after so long.  Good luck with your new group, we'll 
   |> be watching out for all of you.  See you when we see you.
   |> 
   |> 
   |> 				     Ramona
   |> 

%	   Oh good!  We can get back to the mindless rabble that has been the
%   subject of this board for the last 6 months.  Em can write about her unshaven
%   legs, Eric can tell us about his sexual exploits involving dog collars, and Steam
%   can post his `official' ska list.  Then we can all talk about how cool we are
%   because we listen to ska and go to shows.  
%
%	   If this group is a forum for anti-racist skins, SHARP whatever, why is it
%   no one can put together a coherant rebuttal to Christian, Sara and the like.  Are
%   you afraid of having your views challenged?  You might actually have to back your
%   beliefs.  (Quite an uncomfortable situation).
%
%	   Oh well, back to our cozy little world of
%   alt.mindless.rabble.yawn.yawn.yawn.


I couldn't agree more. Is this a fucking fashion show or what?!
If you shaved your head for "style" puke on you. People whine and
say that this isn't the place for politics. Most of the one's that do
respond to the recent provacation resort to weak-ass-poorly thought
out arguements.

If you go to the trouble to shave your head to set yourself apart
do so. Let people know what your about, use your brain to distinguish
yourself from the rabble.

"Nice dew! Clean shave! Great tattoo! Bim Skala Bim is playin'
 with the Bosstones wanna go?"

Bunch of fucking spoiled middleclass posers...



--
Sean J. Merritt		         | "Every revolt is a cry of innocence    
Dept of Physics Boston University|  and an appeal to the essence of being."
merritt@macro.bu.edu             | Albert Camus, The Rebel
From: hexonxon@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Mark Goldstein)
Newsgroups: alt.skinheads
Subject: Re: Whaat the hell is this about?
Date: 16 Dec 92 06:17:07 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <Dec16.060232.45878@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> cs151kx@lamar.ColoState.EDU () writes:
>	I hate to see the skinheads group going in such a racist direction
>
>	I think that you are entitled to your own opinions but that is where
>	the first Amendment stops protecting your statements.  Don't 
>	impress your personal views on everyone else reading this catagory
>	or sure as the sun's gonna rise tomorrow this catagory will turn in
>	to nothing but a war ground for the flamers and the flamies
>	.  If you want to go shopping for shoes go to the nearest 
>	Famous Footwear.  And there's a catagory, alt.music.ska for
>	your ska tunes.  
>
>		IF YOUR TRYING TO INCURE FEAR OF A SKINHEAD WORLD, 
>		THE TELL US WHAT YOU'RE DOING ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW, WHERE 
>		YOU LIVE, NOT WHAT EVERYONE ELSE SHOULD DO.
>
>		BILL CLINTON IS A SKINHEAD, OR IT'S PROVEN THAT HE WAS IN
>		HIS EARLIER DAYS,  NOW THAT'S THE FIRST AMENDMENT
>		WORKING FOR ME.
>	
>	Now don't get me wrong, I'm not prejudice against Skinheads, or anyone
>	else for that matter.  I just want to know where you stand on life.
>	How are you going to make this a better world?
>
>	lates
>
>	ChrisTOPHer S.Johnston
>	cs151kx@lamar.colostate.edu
>	(topher)
>
>	

I hear back in them earlier days Bill laced up his Docs with *white* laces.
he looked real cute in his braces, too. 
Newsgroups: alt.skinheads
From: equnlivn@unix1.tcd.ie (Eoin P. O'Coindealbhain)
Subject: Nazi Sheep
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:28:47 GMT

		I happened to be talking to a friend
	about the growing tide of racism in Europe.
		He offered the opinion that a lot of
	this was caused by a need to belong,he gave
	as an example of this what had happened in
	Milwall football club in England.A lot of
	supporters of this club were well known for
	their racist views and had an international
	reputation for this.Then anti-racist groups
	began to get involved in trying to change
	this view.They soon found that many of the
	racists only were as it gave them an identity
	and a sense of belonging.To counter this the
	anti-racist groups formed their own core
	group in the supporters to provide an 
	alternitive to the racist view.Apparently
	racism has almost died out in the fans.

		Just a fairytale?I don't know,I
	just heard it from a friend.
	
Newsgroups: alt.skinheads
From: montas@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Hubert J Montas)
Subject: Re: What's in Ska?/The Best Fucking Ska.
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:47:05 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.201244.4652@spcvxb.spc.edu> 6anthony_m@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
>
>Well, I really cant help ya, I dont really like Ska much.  Tell ya the truth,
>I dont know why I read this place.  Well, it gives me something to do at 
>school, I started reading to talk about Oi! and punk but not much of that on 
>here.  Just arguing about who are the real and original skinheads. BTW: I saw t
>wo kids from SHARP on Larry King Live repeat, they sure were to confused young 
>lads. Oh well, Ive also seen skins from the KKK on donahue, they were confused 
>also.  What am I trying to say?  Who knows....
>
      Sounds pretty confusing! A new definition of Skinhead might be confused
indivudual without hair (Aaaaaaaaaah)! Man, It's too early in the morning for
me to make any sense either!

      Hubert.
From: 6anthony_m@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.skinheads
Subject: Re: What's in Ska?/The Best Fucking Ska.
Date: 14 Dec 92 01:12:44 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

>      Yeah, I just got one of their CDs, It's pretty hardcore, and well Ska! I
> was looking for something Ska-ier though. I don't know if Skankin' Pickle or
> Bim Skala Bim are indeed more Ska. I couldn't find any of them here (Indiana),
> none of Bad Manners either. Anybody's got a lead into the West Lafayette
> record dealerships? And hey, I want to sample real Ska! I saw a Ska-tellites
> CD here, are they any good?
> 
>      Hubert.



Well, I really cant help ya, I dont really like Ska much.  Tell ya the truth,
I dont know why I read this place.  Well, it gives me something to do at 
school, I started reading to talk about Oi! and punk but not much of that on 
here.  Just arguing about who are the real and original skinheads.  BTW: I saw
two kids from SHARP on Larry King Live repeat, they sure were to confused young 
lads.  Oh well, Ive also seen skins from the KKK on donahue, they were confused 
also.  What am I trying to say?  Who knows....


The Fiend  
Newsgroups: alt.skinheads
From: hexonxon@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Mark Goldstein)
Subject: no doubt
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:04:30 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

what is the name of the no doubt album? there are quite a few groups in boulder with that name so i never know which disk to get! what label are they on?
-mark
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Friday, 11 Dec 1992 10:15:25 EST
From: Ready to fight <IO20557@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.skinheads
Subject: Re: Tell me about Spike and X
 <Dec10.023939.36078@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
 <1992Dec10.212729.6167@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>
 <Dec11.030702.39546@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
 <92346.092404IO20557@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>

P.S. -- dont confuse my lack of hate for Nationalism, militarism, and
   even fascism...which is just as theoretical political institutions,
  with my absolute rage against such practices as racism and
   discrimination.

-TC (putting on his flame resistant boots)
Newsgroups: alt.skinheads
From: lagrangj@unvax.union.edu (Joshua C. LaGrange)
Subject: Re: Sex Pistols and Clash reunion?
Organization: Union College, Schenectady, NY
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 06:16:25 GMT

lmn52210@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ramona) writes:

>The Pistols are getting back together with Glen Matlock
>on bass and they will be touring.  What's this about the
>Clash?!?!?!?!  Where did you hear this?  I think that 
>would beat any reunion tour in recent memory, none of 
>the original members are dead yet!


>				   Ramona

Unbelievable!  That woulg be amazing.




-- 
Josh LaGrange                  *                    
lagrangj@unvax.union.edu       *           (cute stuff deleted  
Phone: (518) 370-6908          *
The views that I express are shared by very few responsible people.
Newsgroups: alt.skinheads
From: fsgab@acad3.alaska.edu
Subject: Re: Info about Skins in US
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 11:17:33 GMT

In article <1go9stINN9p6@coli-gate.coli.uni-sb.de>, ulma@coli.uni-sb.de (Ulrich Mayring) writes:
>A couple of days ago I chanced across this group and out of curiosity began
>to read. Now, back here in Germany, skinhead is synonymous with racist and
>wanna-be-nazi. However, with an organisation like SHARP, not all skinheads
>could be like that, at least in the US. This fact kind of amazed me, so here
>are a few questions:
>
>1. Is this SHARP-thing amusement for two or three skinheads, or are there really
>   substantial amounts of skinheads backing it? What would for the US the
>   guessed percentages be for SHARPers and similar Skins vs. racists etc.
>
>2. Take (via SHARP e.g.) racism and prejudice away from a Skinhead, what 
>   remains? What makes this person still a skinhead?
>
>3. What use is it getting confused with nazis, if one isn't backing them?
>   Surely the right-wingers were on the scene before the SHARPers?
>
>Thanks to anyone deciding to enlighten me,
>
>
>     Ulrich Mayring
>
	Let me explain skinhead to you.  Skinheads first appeared in the 1960s
in Jamaica.  All of the original skinheads were black.  The common thread which
made them a group (besides shaved heads) was ska music.  Ska is the pre-cursor
to reagge, and it evolved from an acoustic music called mento.  
	Because of the strong ties between Jamaica and the UK, ska music soon
spread to England.  There, the skinhead scene soon expanded to include members
of all races who listened to ska music, mostly blacks and whites.  The scene 
was largely apolitical, but was composed almost entirely of working-class 
males.  
	When exactly racism and Nazism came to be connected with skinheads, I'm
not quite sure.  It sure has made things confusing for all involved.  What I
can tell you is that skinheads, real skinheads, are in no way connected to Nazi
ideology or racism.  Mass media had no interest in skinheads until every NF and
Nazi-youth member on the block shaved his head and called himself a skin.  
Unfortunately, this is the only definition available to someone not familiar 
with this subculture.  
	Groups such as SHARP were organized by non-racist skinheads in order to
combat the false stereotypes being implied by hairless Nazis.  I do not
represent SHARP, but I can tell you that they are very (too?) serious, and have
quite a following.  Also, not all non-racist skins belong to a non-racist skin
organization.  Some of these organizations use questionable and/or violent
methods, not approved of by all skins.  
	I hope this has answered your questions.  Someone else may want to
elaborate on the integration of racism and nationalism into the skinhead scene,
or why Nazi-youth shave their heads.

Educate to destroy the stereotypes, Grant Beaugard
--------------------------------------------------------
"So all you skinheads... get your boots on... and put your braces together" -
The Specials, "Skinhead Moonstomp"
From: montas@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Hubert J Montas)
Newsgroups: alt.skinheads
Subject: Re: Wayne Lo
Date: 20 Dec 92 20:13:59 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <MERRITT.92Dec18113026@macro.bu.edu> merritt@macro.bu.edu (Sean Merritt) writes:
> 
>Again I don't want to think for you. But since you conspire to twist my
>words: Racism stems from ignorance. An intelligent person can be
>ignorant. A thinking person never.
>
      AaaaaaaaaH! See, It worked! How else could I have succeeded in making
you speak your mind? 

      Keep Thinking Man!

          Hubert.
Newsgroups: alt.skinheads
From: trent@odie.tmc.edu (Trent Moulder - Pate)
Subject: Re: Please, Please, PLEASE!
Organization: Mississippi State University ERC
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 19:31:47 GMT

Newsgroups: alt.skinheads
From: lmn52210@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ramona)
Subject: Re: Alive?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:30:31 GMT

Here I am, and yeah, I have been studying for finals.
Congrats to Sarah, just for thinking for yourself.


					    Ramona

Organization: Senior, Biology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.skinheads
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 18:26:07 -0500 
From: Eric Scott Jefferson <ej0i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Tell me about Spike and X
	<Bz27Hy.7pH@news.cso.uiuc.edu>

>.  After reading this book, I had tremendous
>respect for Malcolm X, but none for the Nation of Islam, which 
>people should know is an American bastardization of a very tolerant
>religion.  Don't confuse members of the Nation with true Muslims,
>the latter of which Malcolm X became after his pilgrimage to Mecca.

Hee hee. It is always amusing when supposed feminists are so interested
in the Muslim religion. The Koran clearly states that Allah gave men
dominion over women since he made the one superior to the other.
Mohammed himself had multiple wives and concubines (he also had black
slaves for slavery existed for 4,000 years in the Arab world and was
only outlawed in Saudi Arabia in 1960 due to pressure from the United
Nations. The word for black man in Arabic, abid, is synonoymous with
slave) Also there is a wealth of literature by Muslim scholars who
discuss how to beat your wife for misconduct and so on. In Pakistan if a
woman is raped and she reports it she will be thrown in jail for it is
assumed that she didn't resist hard enough. Also a few months ago the
head of state of Iran Rafsanjani called a conference outlining the evils
of the west and how they were giving women all these funny ideas about
equality, when everyone knows the woman's proper place is in the
kitchen. As far as I can see, the Moslem religon has absolutely nothing
to offer anyone and it always amazes me that people who critize
Christianity for being narrow-minded embrace Moslems who are certainly
no more open than the most fundamentalist of Christians.


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"I got something to say, I killed your baby today and it doesn't matter
much to me as long as it's dead
I got something to say. I raped your mother today and it doesn't matter
much to me as long as she spread" -- The Misfits
"They're out ta get me. They won't catch me. 'Cause I'm innocent." --
Guns N' Roses
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From: 2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu (NAME)
Newsgroups: alt.skinheads
Subject: Ska question...
Date: 13 Dec 1992 00:00:25 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu

Ok...got a question about an L.A. ska band for y'all


I recently picked up (for a buck!) a live Untouchables cd by the name of 
Decade of Dance live...great stuff...now...are their 3 or 4 studio albums
worth trying to find...or should I just stick with this one...



Thank ya.

Later.  .
-justin
Newsgroups: alt.skinheads
From: sl313028@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Jazz (I've got))
Subject: thanx
Keywords: UBER ALLES
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:11:13 GMT

thanx to all the people who told me where to get that dead kennedy's
song (both) about CAlifornia Uber Alles (& we've got a bigger problem
now).  lots 2 thank, so i'll be lazy & post here!

-jon
("anointed, allways on my knees honey...", SFC)
(oh, just can't wait 2 start posting to rec.music.reggae!!!)
From: ulma@coli.uni-sb.de (Ulrich Mayring)
Newsgroups: alt.skinheads
Subject: Info about Skins in US
Date: 16 Dec 1992 23:17:01 +0100
Organization: Computational Linguistics Dept., U Saarbruecken
NNTP-Posting-Host: coli-gate.coli.uni-sb.de

Hi,

A couple of days ago I chanced across this group and out of curiosity began
to read. Now, back here in Germany, skinhead is synonymous with racist and
wanna-be-nazi. However, with an organisation like SHARP, not all skinheads
could be like that, at least in the US. This fact kind of amazed me, so here
are a few questions:

1. Is this SHARP-thing amusement for two or three skinheads, or are there really
   substantial amounts of skinheads backing it? What would for the US the
   guessed percentages be for SHARPers and similar Skins vs. racists etc.

2. Take (via SHARP e.g.) racism and prejudice away from a Skinhead, what 
   remains? What makes this person still a skinhead?

3. What use is it getting confused with nazis, if one isn't backing them?
   Surely the right-wingers were on the scene before the SHARPers?

Thanks to anyone deciding to enlighten me,


     Ulrich Mayring

Newsgroups: alt.skinheads
From: cs151kx@lamar.ColoState.EDU ()
Subject: this is the last try
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 11:12:23 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523
From: montas@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Hubert J Montas)
Newsgroups: alt.skinheads
Subject: Re: Info about Skins in US
Date: 20 Dec 92 20:07:37 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1gshvfINNfu1@coli-gate.coli.uni-sb.de> ulma@coli.uni-sb.de (Ulrich Mayring) writes:
>
>Now, is it really worth calling yourself a skinhead, when you will be viewed as
>another racist statistically? I mean, the swastika for example is an old german
>ic rune symbol (or some such, I'm no historian), but use it today and you will 
>be viewed as a Nazi. The swastika itself isn't evil, it was there long before H
>itler but don't you inadvertently promote what it stands for, when using it?
>
     The media did it for punk, rap and now skinheads. Because we're angry at
the way the system works, they call us racist. It's the best way to destroy
our revolutionary potential. The next thing that happens is a huge influx of
true racists amongst the groups...the prophecy fulfills itself (i.e. they say
we're racists when we ain't, then the racists join us due to this mis-publici-
ty, eventually the group is overtaken by racists).
     On the other hand, the media, which is truly fascist (as it is controlled
by millionaires and promotes uniformity of the masses), starts using our music
to promote its products. Abrasive punk guitar riffs, urgency-driven rap beats,
and, pretty soon (look for it), Ska! We're at the edge of society and as we
are badmouthed by all, the media co-opts our subculture for profits.
     Enough bellyaching though! You're question is really whether we should
associate with a subculture that is viewed from the outside as racist. I
thought so before. I thought that by being myself, and a member of that sub-
culture, I could get to show people what that subculture was really about. But
there has been too many misunderstandings... I don't associate with any sub-
culture that much these days, but with my friends, especially the foreigners,
I spend extensive time discussing the ideals of various youth groups. This
way they can break away from media hype and get a less biaised view of western
culture and sub-cultures.

      Hubert.
Newsgroups: alt.skinheads
From: gilgan@ug.cs.dal.ca (Tommy Gilgan)
Subject: Re: Apology
Followup-To: alt.skinheads
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 09:15:42 GMT

In article <of_bf3_00aw_QGvEYh@andrew.cmu.edu> Sarah Michelle Kreidler <sk5h+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
...
>	I think nazism is a seductive philosophy because it gives you a reason,
>however shallow, to think you're better than everyone else.
...
>-Sarah    

There is a very good book called, 'Reflections of Nazism' by Saul Friedlander
which explores Nazism from an almost philosophical view point. It's a pretty
thin volume but well worth a read. It might provide you with more insights
as to how seductive Nazism and other idelogies can be and why that it so.


Dave Morash
Newsgroups: alt.skinheads
From: cs151kx@lamar.ColoState.EDU ()
Subject: Whaat the hell is this about?
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 06:02:32 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

	I hate to see the skinheads group going in such a racist direction

	I think that you are entitled to your own opinions but that is where
	the first Amendment stops protecting your statements.  Don't 
	impress your personal views on everyone else reading this catagory
	or sure as the sun's gonna rise tomorrow this catagory will turn in
	to nothing but a war ground for the flamers and the flamies
	.  If you want to go shopping for shoes go to the nearest 
	Famous Footwear.  And there's a catagory, alt.music.ska for
	your ska tunes.  

		IF YOUR TRYING TO INCURE FEAR OF A SKINHEAD WORLD, 
		THE TELL US WHAT YOU'RE DOING ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW, WHERE 
		YOU LIVE, NOT WHAT EVERYONE ELSE SHOULD DO.

		BILL CLINTON IS A SKINHEAD, OR IT'S PROVEN THAT HE WAS IN
		HIS EARLIER DAYS,  NOW THAT'S THE FIRST AMENDMENT
		WORKING FOR ME.
	
	Now don't get me wrong, I'm not prejudice against Skinheads, or anyone
	else for that matter.  I just want to know where you stand on life.
	How are you going to make this a better world?

	lates

	ChrisTOPHer S.Johnston
	cs151kx@lamar.colostate.edu
	(topher)

	
Newsgroups: alt.skinheads
From: fritzz@megatek.com (Friedrich Knauss)
Subject: Where to find Docs...
Reply-To: fritzz@megatek.com
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:34:16 GMT

If you are looking for Doc Martins, try...


Nordstroms.

Seriously - 12 hole Oxblood Docs, $109. Right next to
the nirvana plaid flannel shirts and the Harly Davidson
womens lingerie. I'm in counter culture trendy yuppie
hell. Next thing you know they'll have a dick piercing
booth.

(I bet they'll even change in some white laces for
free...)



I'm gonna get a fucking dark blue pin stripe suit,
fucking red power tie, and some goddam wingtips.

-- 
-- Bones heal - Chicks dig scars - Pain is temporary - Glory is forever
-- fritzz@megatek.com :wq ZZ QQUIT exitqqq^C^Y^C^C^C^C^C^C^C
--
Newsgroups: alt.skinheads
From: cs151kx@lamar.ColoState.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.skinheads
Subject: Re: Whaat the hell is this about?
Date: 17 Dec 92 05:35:13 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523


 	JEAN-HUBERT, PLEASE, GO BACK TO SLEEP.!!
	ChrisTOPHer.
Newsgroups: alt.skinheads
From: montas@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Hubert J Montas)
Subject: Re: Forget everything, for now
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:27:22 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.094304.16260@u.washington.edu> mustang@u.washington.edu writes:
>  For a few days, at least, wish the person with whom you are
>arguing a merry Christmas.

       Merry Christmas Softy!

>   Some of you will probably say, "Get this freak off our net!"  As a skin
>(racist or non, it doesn't matter) I am as much a freak as the rest of
>you(as the rest of the world sees us).

       Fucking freak man, get off our net! (Ah Ah, It's a joke, get it?)

       Anyways, we got to do something to polish our image. I suggest a fund
drive for the starving children of Somalia. And, talking about food, what do
skinheads eat these days? My bud who was a skin in Mtl (yeah, the black guy)
he was living with these other skins (7 guys in a 4-1/2 or 4 guys in a 7-1/2,
don't really remember) anyways, they were all on welfare and a pretty good
diet: potatoes, potatoes, potatoes and potatoes again.

        Hubert.


Newsgroups: alt.skinheads