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From: bs@mdavcr.mda.ca (Bruce Sharpe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Windows & GUS Probs
Date: 2 Jan 93 15:26:46 GMT
Organization: MacDonald Dettwiler, 13800 Commerce Parkway, Richmond, BC, Canada  V6V 2J3

In article <1993Jan01.204327.18619@rose.com> francisco.perez@rose.com (francisco perez) writes:
>
>Okay, I've tried everything to get MIDI songs to play in Windows, and I
>still can't.  I just got the Patch Manager and I can't even get any patches
>to load up!  ...

Check your ULTRASND.INI file in the directory pointed to by your ULTRADIR
environment variable (usually c:\ultrasnd).  It should be longish, with lots
of entries like 0=acpiano1, etc.  If it's only got three lines or so in it,
that's your problem.  Get another copy from your distribution files and put
it into the ULTRADIR directory.  That should fix things up.

Bruce Sharpe
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From: degood@hpavla.lf.hp.com (John DeGood)
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 15:19:52 GMT
Subject: Re: Keyboard instructional programs?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Little Falls Site
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard, bell@nosc.mil writes:

> I have an IBM Clone with a Gravis Ultrasound and a Yamaha PSR300 keyboard and
> would like to find a program that can use the MIDI ports to teach me how to
> play the keyboard.  I'm looking for something similar to the "Miracle" Piano
> teaching system but I don't want to purchase the keyboard or interface card
> that comes with it.  Does anyone have any suggestions and/or recommendations?

The April 1992 issue of Electronic Musician magazine reviewed 3 keyboard
instruction packages for MS-DOS:  Temporal Acuity Products' "PianoWorks"
($129), Fast Fingers Music Software's "Fast Fingers" ($49/module), and
the Software Toolworks' "Miracle Piano Teaching System" ($479).

The current (January 1993) issue of Electronic Musician has an overview
of music education software on pages 62-67 which mentions the above
packages as well as "Alfred's Basic Adult Piano Theory" ($49).  It
includes phone numbers for all companies mentioned in the overview.

John DeGood  degood@lf.hp.com
Hewlett-Packard Little Falls Site (Wilmington, Delaware)
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From: janicek@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jana Janicek)
Subject: Re: GUS Programming: The Repost III
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 23:38:50 GMT

Yeppie!! I figured out my mistake. My high byte was being misconverted.
After I sat down and tested those poke and peek routines again, I figured
out I was only accessing bank 0. I fixed the problem by including a cast:
(int)MS24B(address) returns the propper value for outp().

Thanks again Josh for your help. I will probably need it again eventually.

I will shortly release the finished product, a GUS ram tester. (If nobody
beats me to it). And then, the possibilities are limitless!!

-Later
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: ylee@norton.uwaterloo.ca (Yuri Lee)
Subject: 669 player for GUS
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 05:07:36 GMT

Hi,

I've heard there's 669 player for GUS native mode released somewhere. If any of you have it, could you upload it to epas or post it here ? Thank you.

- Yuri

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: knepley@CS.ColoState.EDU (Ranseus (Jim Knepley))
Subject: Re: Sound Blaster 16 ASP; first impressions
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 03:42:17 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University

In article <1992Dec29.222407.7227@ichips.intel.com> smintz@sedona.intel.com writes:
>Well, I finally recieved, and set up my new sb16 asp, I thought some of you
>would like hearing my impression of the board. First, the system setup is as
>follows, a 486/33 DX2 66 with 128megs of ram, and 2 1.3 gig drives the MB
>has an OPTI chipset (dated 8/6/92) and AMI bios (dated 6-6-92).

*choke* *gag* *sputter* *hack* *wimper*
nice machine...
*cough* *twitch* *feint* *gasp*
128megs of RAM!?!?!?

The jealous,
  Jim
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From: mtichy@fraser.sfu.ca (Martin Tichy)
Subject: GUS & Winmod Pro in Stereo!
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 05:20:49 GMT

Just a tip, I've gotten Winmod Pro to work in Stereo with the 
new GUS driver.  It doesn't mention it in the documentation 
but you need to set the sample/playback speed at either 11025, 
22050, or 44100.  It might work at other at other rates but I 
haven't tried them.  Most like multiples of those values.
 
Later.

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From: tooraj@daneel.rdt.monash.edu.au (Tooraj Enayati)
Subject: TSR to Disney Sound Source -> Covax DAC (LPT type DAC)
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 00:51:31 GMT


Before I sit down and start writing a TSR to translate the output of
programs sending music to a Disney Sound Source into a Covax Sound Thing 
(the usual home made DAC which connects to LPTx), does any one know of
such a thing. 

I had a look at afew ftp sites but couldn't find any thing. I am sure
there are a lot of people out there who'd love to have something like
that. 

Please if you know of such a program send me mail or post here.

If you'd like to find the same sort of program, send me mail and I'll
let you know of the result. 

If I can't find such a porgram I'll start writing one.

Thanks in advance.
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From: dnwangus@flash.LakeheadU.Ca (Dave Angus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Are there any good "drum machine" programs for SB?
Date: 31 Dec 1992 07:44:19 GMT
Organization: Lakehead University, Thunder Bay, Ont., Canada


I'm looking for a nice drum machine program for the SB or
Adlib.  I've tried DrumBlaster; while it has some nice
samples the patterns in it _really_ suck.  The ideal would
probably be something that pretends to be a Roland x0x
with some MIDI abilities.  

Has anyone tried Dr T's "Boom Box"?

regards,
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran)
Subject: Re: GUS: SBOS vr 1.22
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 00:54:30 GMT

In article <1618@yetti.UUCP> frank@cs.yorku.ca (Frank Pikelner) writes:
>Hello,
>
>I'm buying the GUS today, and I keep hearing about the new driver for emulating
>the SoundBlaster. The version everyone talks about is 1.22, is it available
>via anonymous ftp? WHere?
>
>-- Frank Pikelner
>frank@cs.yorku.ca
>

It's on archive.epas.utoronto.ca and wuarchive.wustl.edu under the filename
gus0008.exe (a self-extracting archive).  The directory that it's in on
archive.epas is /pub/pc/ultrasound/sndult(?).  I'm not sure where it's
located on wuarchive.

Phat.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: riedl@xerxes.cs.umn.edu (John Riedl)
Subject: Re: GUS and PAS MIDI BOX?
Organization: /home/xerxes/faculty/riedl/.organization
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 22:01:49 GMT


   |> Simple question:
   |> 
   |> Is it possible to use a MIDI box from the PAS 16 on the GUS?
   |> 
   |> [... text deleted ...]

In article <1992Dec24.094117@cs.utwente.nl> waardenb@cs.utwente.nl (Jerry van Waardenberg) writes:

   Yes. I believe the GUS needs a SB compatible midi-box and as far as
   I know, the PAS MIDI box _is_ SB compatible.

Has anyone tried this?  I'm very interested in connecting my keyboard
to my new UltraSound board, but I'd like to be sure before buying or
building.

Thanks,
John
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From: bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Best soundcard for a non-audiophile
Keywords: Gravis UltraSound(GUS), SoundBlaster, Thundercard, games, educ. SW
Date: 31 Dec 92 05:14:11 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard

I will be getting a low-end 486 PC this week.  The main two uses
for it will be educational software for my daughter and typesetting
my dissertation and other papers (mainly just editing LaTeX and
occasionally previewing).  I will probably also play a few games,
but while I'm a student (esp. with a family) I won't do too much
of that, hopefully. :-}  I'm not an audiophile who expands
perfection.   And if I fool around with recording and/or
playing digitized sounds (besides from games or education SW)
I won't care that much if it isn't great.

The one peripheral I'm thinking of now is a sound card.  I
followed the discussion on SoundBlaster vs Thundercard,
and since I can get a Thundercard with speakers for $119 the
perceived minor Thundercard problems don't worry me.  But I've
also read of the Gravis UltraSound (GUS) is really good, and I think
I read it could be had for $130.

Oh, yes, the machine comes with 2MB RAM, but I will be adding more.

So my questions:

	- Would the GUS really buy me that much more?  I guess
	  that $130+speakers is probably $170, or $50 more than
	  my Thunderboard setup.  I don't mind spending $50 if it
	  will buy me something, but I don't want to waste $50 if
	  it won't.

	- Where can one buy a GUS mail order?  I looked through
	  the entire Computer Shopper and didn't find one.  Is
	  the best price really $130?

Finally, an unrelated (to soundcards) question I'll throw in
since many probably know it:

	- How much memory will I want to add?  I don't care
	  if the games aren't blazing in speed.

Thanks for any feedback!
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From: bouillin@ntc.nokia.com (Claude Bouillin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: CW4.0+SB Pro
Date: 23 Dec 92 12:24:38 GMT
Reply-To: bouillin@ntc.nokia.com
Distribution: comp
Organization: kpd

Has anybody tried to run Cakewalk v4.0 (for MS/DOS) with SoundBlaster
Pro? It seems to me CW has no direct support for SB. Has anybody
experienced this?

	Thanks,
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From: mtichy@fraser.sfu.ca (Martin Tichy)
Subject: Re: PlaySam for the GUS
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 06:45:11 GMT

> Did you write this?  If so, where are you guys getting the info on
> how to program this sucker.  Does anyone know of some good tech
> documentation available by FTP from somewhere?
 
Nope, didn't write it.  Norman wrote it.  Anyways the technical dox
are available by anonymous ftp at archive.epas.utoronto.ca
(128.100.160.36) in the \pub\pc\ultrasound\submit directory.

I think they're called ultradox.exe.

.
From: jmoran@head-cfa.harvard.edu (John Moran)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Please help- card/soft. to read text to blind persons
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:48:42 GMT
Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA,  USA


Hello,

        I am trying to determine what are the best soundcards and
software for ASCII text speech synthesis (for a PC).  Specifically,
I'm trying to determine whether it would be feasible to scan in
a book or an article and have the resulting ASCII text be read
to a person without sight via soundcard & software.
        Is this feasible?  Any information that you can provide
on cards, software, personal experience, ideas, etc. will be
much appreciated.

        If it is more appropriate, send e-mail and I will
post a summary.

Thanks for your time!

John

e-mail: jmoran@cfa.harvard.edu
From: s106275@ee.tut.fi (Anssi Saari)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: On GUS memory (question)
Date: 31 Dec 92 06:51:31 GMT
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ohmi.ee.tut.fi

In <19053@mindlink.bc.ca> Damon_Harper@mindlink.bc.ca (Damon Harper) writes:

>If the GUS needs patches loaded into its memory, how on earth could you have
>(even with 1MB onboard) more than a few short, CD-quality voices in memory at
>the same time?  How could you, say, have a music file with 14.4K voices and
>have any decent number of them at all?  ESPECIALLY without the memory
>extension...  

>Even if it loads them dynamically, that must be
>time-consuming... and what if you want to have 32 14.4K 10 second voices
>going all at once?  They'd never fit!

Not even one stereo 10 second stereo sample at 44.1kHz would fit, as that 
would be 176400*10 bytes. So, quite simply, you use a smaller sample rate and 
no stereo samples. Besides, few instruments are longer than a few seconds
anyway. If we assume 16bit mono samples at 22kHz, we get 44000 bytes/second.
At this quality, 256k would be enough for about six seconds, 1MB four times
that, about 24 seconds. I think this still isn't enough, so the actual
sample rate would have to be yet lower or 8bit samples would have to be used.

I remember from the GUS digest that it's impossible to load samples while 
playing, so you'd have to fit all samples a song needs in memory at once. I
guess it might be possible to stop playing and load in a new lead instrument,
for example, without notable delay. 

Well, this is mostly speculation, except for my calculations. I just had my 
night's sleep, (all three hours of it) so maybe I am not at my sharpest.
Maybe some GUS programmer could shed some more light on the issue?

Anssi

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From: janicek@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jana Janicek)
Subject: Re: GUS Programming: The Repost III
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 04:39:39 GMT

Have you by any chance figured out the format of the midi patch files that
come with the GUS system disks? I need some patches to test your routines
and I would like to use some 16 bit patches if possible.

-Later
From: ajross@husc10.harvard.edu (Andrew Ross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: GUS 16-bit sampling daughtercard out yet?
Keywords: GUS sampling
Date: 24 Dec 92 23:30:16 GMT

Ages ago, I was told that a daughtercard would be available for the GUS to
allow for 16-bit 44.1 kHz stereo sampling.  Has such a beast been released
yet?  If so, how much?

Thanks
Andy Ross
ajross@husc.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: woan@exeter.austin.ibm.com (Ronald S. Woan)
Subject:  Waveform Table for SB?!  Why GUS?
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 17:38:13 GMT
Reply-To: woan@cactus.org
Organization: Austin School of Hardknocks

In article <1992Dec24.100614.10036@u.washington.edu> umeister@u.washington.edu writes:
>This puts the Sound Blaster on even keel with the GUS as far as music
>technology (or at least will put).  With its ability to compete with
>the Microsoft Sound System for the voice-recognition throne, what's
>the reason to go with the GUS?

Price... SB 16 ASP lists for $349 ($219 street) and the daughtercard
for wavetable synthesis lists for $249 (no street yet) compared with
$139 approximate street of a GUS. If you just play games, you don't
even need to factor in the daughetrcards on the GUS for a CDROM
interface or 16bit sampling.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran)
Subject: Re: Will a GUS do it all?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 08:02:23 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.184709.10983@bnlux1.bnl.gov> thomas@bnlux1.bnl.gov (Richard A. Thomas) writes:
>	I am considering changing my soundcard to a GUS.  Right now I have
>a soundblaster 1.5, and I am concerned that I don't  have to give up anything
>in making the switch.
>
>	I can't have both cards in my computer, since every slot is now filled.
>
>	There are only three important things I want to do with my soundcard,
>and they would all be under windows.
>
>	With my present soundblaster 1.5, I can:
>
>	  play *.rol files in the background  (using a fm31.drv in place of the
>	    standard windows sound.drv and other shareware)  Yes, I did
>            send in the registration.
>

An FM driver will probably not work with the Ultrasound at all, as it is
a wavetable synthesis card.  However, WinJammer 2.2 will allow you to 
convert your .rols to .mids, which Media Player will play.  They'll blow
your socks off when you hear them from the Ultrasound (assuming, of
course, that the conversion was done properly.)

>	 play *.wav or *.mid files using the utilities provided with 
>	   Windows 3.1 and Creative Labs
>

Media Player will play .mid and .wav files with ease on the Ultrasound.
I'm not sure if the CL utilities will, though.

>	use Midisoft Studio for windows to compose and play *.mid files
>	  myself
>

Yes, with one catch.  Unless MidiSoft supports patch caching, you'll have
to load the patches onto the Ultrasound using another utility that
does.

>My question is:  Will I still be able to do all three of the above in windows
>3.1 with just the GUS card without having to resort to changing the drivers
>set-up and rebooting windows >>each<< time I want to change what I'm doing in
>windows with my soundcard?
>

The drivers for the GUS are essentially "install-once and forget".  They
are not perfect, so perhaps you will have to fiddle with setup and 
reboot to install the new drivers once Gravis releases them.  

Phat.
From: Alan_Robb@mindlink.bc.ca (Alan Robb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: GUS CARD
Date: 1 Jan 93 19:51:11 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

II Am having a heck of a time getting my gus card to work. does anyone know
if it works with QEMM or not? Also is there a conflict with the Trident VGA
card which fouls everything up? I have tried to contact Gravis but it is
almost impossible to get through.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: c035mjh@utarlg.uta.edu (Gunslinger N)
Subject: Gravis UltraSound Available at -->
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: GUS
Organization: The University of Texas at Arlington
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 09:38:00 GMT

  As the Subjet line suggest, I just bought a GUS and before doing that I did
some price shopping. (Arligton TEXAS)
  -Electronics Boutique  $159.99
  -Babbage               $149.99
  -Bizmart               $139.99  I got my GUS here along with a Sony SRS-58pc
speakers.
Note: Not all Bizmarts in Arlington have the GUS. I found it at Bizmart on
Collins st.
     Happy shopping!!!   

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From: Andrew McCallum <andrewm@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Waveform Table for SB?!  Why GUS?
X-To: STARFLEET COMMAND
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 19:30:00 GMT

From umeister@hardy.u.washington.edu (Starfleet Command)
>A recent PC Magazine ad showed the new Creative Labs Sound Blaster 16.
>Although it relies on FM synthesis, the ad asserts that a daughterboard
>with a waveform table will become available.  This puts the Sound Blaster
>on even keel with the GUS as far as music technology (or at least will put).
>With its ability to compete with the Microsoft Sound System for the
>voice-recognition throne, what's the reason to go with the GUS?

    Price.

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From: kludge@hardy.u.washington.edu (Kludge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Pops (was Re: New Gravis software solves several problems)
Date: 31 Dec 1992 18:40:16 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu

In article <C04Gxv.6p2@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca> ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran) writes:
>In article <85985@ut-emx.uucp> captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin) writes:
>>
>>I've noticed what may be a serious problem with the GUS, that is quite
>>apparent when using the patch manager.  If you load a patch, and then
>>play it on the little keyboard with the mouse, and you just hold the
>>mouse button down while moving from key to key (sustain note 1, goto
>>note 2 & sustain, back to note 1) there is some TERRIBLE clicking &
>>popping that occurs at each note change.
>>
>

  Hmm... I spent quite a bit of last night fiddling with the patch manager
and didn't have that happen to me.  I hate to say it, but there may be
something wrong with your GUS and/or speakers... :(

>The popping only occurs when you, for example, play note C on channel 1
>and then play another note C on the same channel before the first note
>has ended.  The pop is the result of the first note having to be cut-off
>abruptly for the second note to begin.  However, if you play note C on
>channel 1, and then play a second note C on channel 2 shortly after, and
>before the first note has ended, you will not hear a pop.  (By channel,
>I am referring to a MIDI channel.)  You can test everything out with

 [Big MIDI testing explanation deleted]

>>Does anyone know what is happening here?  I hope this isn't some defect
>>in the design of the GUS.  It's sounded so good up to now, but with this
>>kind of noise, the card is all but worthless for producing music.
>>
>
>The pops can be avoided altogether if the MIDI driver will allocate
>a separate voice for all notes instead of just the ones that are different
>from the ones already playing.  Cuting off a digital sample in mid-loop
>without time for fading will inevitably produce a pop.
>
>Phat.

  No, not a pop... just nothing.  I tried hitting a key rapidly several
times and got a BaBaBaBaBaaaaah.  No pops.  (Sorry for the pathetic ASCII
sound effect there :)


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