From: khan@twg.com (Sharaaz K. Khan)
Subject: RE: Peace?
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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 04:40:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr1.124747.6790@uoft02.utoledo.edu> cse0115@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
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>	Hello, I have not posted here for quite a while.  I would like to 
>bring up a political question on a rather sensitive subject without trying
>to offend anyone.
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>	This concerns peace in the Middle East.  I have not heard much on this
>recently and when I do, I am not sure what to believe from the liberaly biased
>media in the U.S.
>
>	The last I heard that attempts and some progress was being made towards
>peace talks.  However there is one question in my mind.  Muslims believe that
>all non-muslims are going to hell.  I feel that because of this, a number of

The Muslim does not believe that Christians nor Jews will go to hell, nor does
he/she believe that himself/herself will go to heaven.  This is up to God to 
make the judgement.  However, the Muslim does have certain guidelines that 
exclude people from entering in to heaven.  Monothiesm exists in its purist
form in Islam, and therefore, Islam shuns all those who attribute partners
to God.  Jesus (may Peace be upon him), is a respected Prophet of God like
all the other messangers, and like all the other was given certain powers
by God(by the leave of God).  This in no way, in Islam, makes him God, or the
son of God, nor God-incarnate.  All these attributions of partners to the
level of God is rejected in Islam, and whosoever does this and does this till
the day they die, without repentance and thought will not make it to heaven.
Muslims, in no way, single out the Jew nor the Christian and claim that he
will go to heaven himself.  The Prophet Mohammed (may peace be upon him), 
when working on the Mosque in Medina was asked by one of his companions as
to why he should be working, and that he is the Prophet of Allah.  He replied
by saying "Yes! I am the prophet of Allah, but even I do not know what will
become of me".               
judgement. 

>Muslims give the impression that they are superior to the rest of us
>non-muslims.  Also Israel is not officially recognised by a muslim nation
>(that I know of).  With this attitude or appearance how can peace in the Middle
>East be achieved.  A few Jews I spoke with are willing to give up some land for
>peace as they did with Egypt.  What are Muslims willing to do for peace?

The Muslims will never give up living under a government that is 1) Unjust,
and 2) Violate all the Laws of God.  Peace can only come in that region,
when muslims would rule as vicegerants of God on Earth.  We can look at the
example of the Muslims who ruled before in that region.  When they ruled,
we never had any disputes.  Why are there disputes now? Beacause we were 
thrown out of our homes by an injust system?  So peace can only come in that 
region, when Muslims are the rulers.

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>	As a Christian I understand the conflict between non believers and
>believers.  However despite this conflict, Christians have live amongst
>non-believers peacefully.  There is not one major Christian country.  The
>U.S. was started by believers but they felt it was more important that the
>country was not ruled by religion.  I feel this contrasts with many Islamic
>states.

Whenever Christians had power, they used it not only against the Muslims, but
the Jews themselves.  The Crusades make this very clear.  Eleven Million 
Muslims were massacred by Christian Fundamentalists when they took spain
back.  Babies were smashed against the walls, and the streets were knee
deep with blood.  Such was the brutality and genocide that the Muslims 
have seen.  Why there is not such a big fuss made about this, and 6 
Million which is an exaggerated number of Jews, raises such a hue in the
West?  Also the Muslims welcomed the Jews with open arms when they fled
spain from persecution.  And what do we get for that gratitude, we loose 
our land to a hypocrytical tyranny.

Today, in many Arab countries, Christians and Jews live peacefully together 
with Muslims as they have been doing for centuries.  Secondly, we know that 
Christians do not rule the U.S.  If that was the case, there wouldn't have 
been the battle of pro-choice/pro-child, nor would pornography be legal.


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>	I know there are many deep rooted problems in the Middle East and they
>cannot be solved overnight.  I would just like to hear some opinnions from
>people about what they think should be done about it.
>
>Thanks,
>James

So you have heard mine, what are your views?

Sharaaz Khan

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