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From: jfh@rpp386.lonestar.org (John F Haugh II)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Re: Texas State Election Laws (was: Ross Perot for President Information
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:56:19 GMT
Reply-To: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F Haugh II)
Organization: On the Beach, Simpson Bay, Sint Maarten, Nederland Antilles
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In article <1992Apr16.143322.1741@oakhill.sps.mot.com> jimc@bartman.UUCP (Jim Cox) writes:
>State election laws are patterened after federal law; one vote
>per person. Maybe you should spend a little more time awake in
>the goverment class and a little less time concerning yourself
>with sheep.

Sorry, but primaries don't count.  I should be able to pick two
or three candidates in a primary election.  After all, the person
I vote for isn't running for office - only a position on a
ballot.
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From: speri@cactus.org (Sankarappan Periyasamy)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Need Apartment for sharing in Dallas (Richardson) area
Date: 16 Apr 92 06:36:56 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx


Hi,

One of my friend's wife has got a job in Richardson, Dallas.  She has to move
this weekend.  She is looking for an apartment/women's hostel in that area.
If any of you (indian female preferred) already have an apartment in that area
and looking for a roomie, please email/call me and I'll pass on the information
to her.

she is in desparate need of an apartment & would appreciate any help/information

Thanks.

- Peri.
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From: TROTH@ricevm1.rice.edu (Rick Troth)
Newsgroups: tx.general,tx.politics
Subject: Re: Ross Perot for President Information
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:52:27 GMT
Organization: Rice University, Houston, TX

In article <6369@lib.tmc.edu>
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:

>While Perot owned EDS, he prohibited his employees from having extramarital
>sex and getting divorces, among other things.

        Not far from what *we* expect of our congressmen.
Based on that,  Perot might not make a bad pres.

>Do you really support employers having the ability to make such rules stick?

        Like I said,  I have more than once conciously decided,  "No,  I
don't want to work for him.".   (although I don't practice extramarital
sex,  haven't been divorced,  and don't (now) drink)

        If making such rules stick entails beating down private doors,
then no.   (I don't beat down doors,  and would appreciate it if you
don't beat down mine)   But the employer has the *right* to expect his
employees to uphold the corporate image.   When I sign-on with someone,
I (hopefully) *like* the image of the company I'm signing with.   And
when someone runs for congress/senate/anything,  he better uphold what
I,  as his constituency,  believe in.   So,  when Ross Perot gets on the
ballot,  he's agreeing to serve *me* not the other way around.

        I guess I'm hoping that he'll practice what he has preached.

        [now back to question mode;  will he live up to expectations?]
From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Re: Ross Perot for President Information
Date: 15 Apr 92 03:33:25 GMT
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <20628@rpp386.lonestar.org> jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F Haugh II) writes:
>This has to be a trick question because the answer is "YES".  An employer
>MUST be allowed to do anything which is not a violation of the law.  If
>not hiring people who sleep around isn't a violation of the law, the
>employer must be allowed to have that policy.

...and reasonable people don't have to work for him, either.

While I don't have a problem with his policy that not working for him doesn't
cure, I do think it speaks entire encyclopedias about his attitude towards the
rights of the people he manages - and that attitude is fatal in a President.

>Any other system isn't capitalism.  Perot must have known what he was
>doing and must have had a good reason because it sure made him an
>incredibly rich man.

Actually, I think what made him rich was that he hired Idiots Right Out of
College, trained them his way, paid them low wages, and worked them to death.
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              Philippe Kahn, in Infoworld, 13 Apr 1992
Xref: sparky tx.general:271 tx.politics:1543
From: X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Newsgroups: tx.general,tx.politics
Subject: Re: Ross Perot for President Information
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:02:59 GMT
Followup-To: tx.general
Organization: Texas A&M University

<
<In article <167C9824B.TROTH@ricevm1.rice.edu<
<     TROTH@ricevm1.rice.edu (Rick Troth) writes:
<< BUT .. he's more than within his rights to set-up such regs for
<< his company.
<
<Huh?
<
< While Perot owned EDS, he prohibited his employees from having
< extramarital sex and getting divorces, among other things.
<
< Do you really support employers having the ability to make such
< rules stick?
 
    He's not discriminating against race, sex, religion,
national origin, or age.  Yep, he can do it.
 
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From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Re: Ross Perot for President Information
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:28:30 GMT
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <1992Apr14.184112.16690@news.eng.convex.com> jgardner@convex.com (John B. Gardner) writes:
>In article <6369@lib.tmc.edu> jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard):
>>While Perot owned EDS, he prohibited his employees from having extramarital
>>sex and getting divorces, among other things.
>Really?  I'd very much like to see your source for this information.
>What you've said here is very serious, I'd like to know how the company
>spelled out that such activities would result in dismissal.

I don't have personal knowledge of this, but I have spoken to several people
who had interviewed with EDS during the Perot era and had decided that the
company was not for them. It was common knowledge in the MVS systems
programming arena. (That's what I do for a living.) EDS did loosen up quite a
bit after the GM buyout and Perot's departure, and a friend who worked for
them here in Houston until they shut down the Houston data center confirms
that such policies had been abolished.

>I would think that being fired (or denial of employment) for the reasons
>listed above would be a violation of civil rights, or at least grounds for
>a major lawsuit.

Remember that employment in Texas, at least, is purely at the will of the
employer and the employee, and the employer can terminate one's employment for
any cause at all (barring those proscribed by law, such as race
discrimination). There is no legally protected right to extramarital sex.

-- 
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              Philippe Kahn, in Infoworld, 13 Apr 1992
From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Re: Ross Perot for President Information
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:03:11 GMT
Organization: Taronga Park BBS

Um, we've already pointed out that austin.general isn't the place for this
discussion. How about tx.general? Let's get the politics back to tx.politics.
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From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Re: Texas State Election Laws (was: Ross Perot for President Information
Date: 17 Apr 92 00:14:41 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Taronga Park BBS

In article <6388@lib.tmc.edu> jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
>In article <0ZLE9Z@taronga.com> peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>>In article <kupeakINNpuf@earth.cs.utexas.edu> varvel@cs.utexas.edu (Donald A. Varvel) writes:
>>>You are allowed to vote for only one person, and
>>>only in one party's primary.
>>Why?

>Ever hear of one man, one vote?

	I'm not talking about multiple votes in the election. I'm talking
	about voting for multiple parties. Thus, just maybe, increasing
	the likelihood that one has a reasonable candidate to vote for.

>>>Being able to sign petitions after
>>>either voting in the primary or signing another petition would
>>>allow one person two stabs at putting a name on the ballot.
>>What's wrong with that?

>Because it goves someone more than one vote.

	Where? On election day, he gets to vote for one candidate. Before
	election day, what business is it of the government how parties
	pick their candidates?

	I've never seen anything like this incestuous relation between
	government and political parties before I came to the states.

	In Australia anyone who can qualify can get on the ballot, and
	the bigger parties usually have several candidates. It doesn't
	seem to have caused the breakdown of the government yet.
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From: larry@angel.UUCP (Larry Tenbush)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: SCTHS Meeting Announcement
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:39:27 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Angel's Retrreat, San Antonio TX



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                 APRIL 1992 MEETING ANNOUNCEMENT


     Date: Wednesday, April 15th
     Time: 7:30 p.m.
     Where: Southwest Foundation - Denney Conference Center
            ( Military Drive and Loop 410 ) 
            San Antonio, Texas

     Come and meet Dave Barker, our guest speaker, who will have a slide
     presentation on the Ridgenosed Rattlesnake in Nothern Mexico
     (Crotalus willardi), as well as other herps found in that area.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *



               PUBLIC AWARENESS AND EDUCATION ANNOUNCEMENT


     Date: Sunday, April 12th
     Time: 1:00 p.m.
     Where: San Antonio Botanical Center

     There will be a live display of local reptiles.  I you can help 
     in answering questions or displays, please call Terri Lowell
     (512) 393-7404 evenings.



* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

               FIELD TRIP ANNOUNCEMENT

      Date: Friday, April 24th  and  Saturday, April 25th
      Where: Choke Canyon State Park - Calliham Unit

      On Saturday, April 25th there will be a BBQ it is also pot luck.

      In case of bad weather, alternate arrangements will be made.

      Foe Information, Call:  Jeff Barringer (512) 258-2506 Austin
                              Mike Berardi   (512) 520-3824 San Antonio


      
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From: joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: romp in the hills
Date: 17 Apr 92 03:54:40 GMT
Reply-To: joe@zx11.cactus.org
Organization: NOT

gad@pencom.com (George Durden) writes:
]The Austin American Statesman weather forecast for this weekend is:
]	40% Chance of Rain on Friday
]	Partly Cloudy with chance of T-Storms Saturday (Front passing through)
]	Clear Sunday

using more technologically advanced methods (read: a TV set) I determined
that as of 10ish thursday night it stands at 50% during the day friday
increasing to 70% late friday afternoon. the three day outlook showed
rain all the way through monday morning (complete with blinking shafts
of computer generated lightning :-). the weather dude said central texas
could expect rain with some severe storms through the easter weekend.
the front generating this nasty stuff is a "very slow moving" one.

considering texas weather, the newspaper probably isn't a very good
thing to plan with.

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From: mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: romp in the hills(?) outside of Austin on Easter Weekend
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:52:23 GMT
Reply-To: mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Distribution: tx
Originator: mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <1992Apr9.163727.27834@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com>, rodney@copper.eng.hou.compaq.com (Rodney Pesavento) writes:
|> Convince me that i should go... cuz i got some very nice maps of texas.
|> they show some very very twisty, winding road around austin, like:
|> 2244, 2222, 2769, 1431, 969, P1, and so on and so forth. i figured if i
|> was gonna be lost i had better know were to be lost.  

Oh, man . .  you gotta go . . . you gotta go . . . you gotta go . . . :-)

Actually, if I have to convince you to go riding the motorcycle, then you
must not be a REAL motorcyclist/biker!!!!! ;-)

|> 
|> in case you didn't know, there are some nice road north of town. FM 149 
|> was just paved last year, it goes through Sam Houston National Forest.
|> but my favorite stretch of road is between magnolia and hempstead on 1488.
|> very few cars travel on it and it has some fast sweeping turns.

Sounds fantastic!  Where'd you get your maps . . . just in case you, for
some unknown reason, decide not to go on a jaunt to the Austin area?! 

|> 
|> BTW, what kind of riding do you do?

I've got a Honda Magna, 700 cc, cruiser style.  And I keep under the speed 
limit at ALL times, and I'm very curtious to cagers . . . and . . . 
and . . . and . . . I brush my teeth after every meal! ;-)

Actually, I may not be able to keep up with your CBR in the curves (low
ground clearance on the Magna you know, and the pegs scrape way before
I can get it leaning like I'd want!!!! ;-)  But I guess you could say
that I'm a *little* daring!??!?!  (This is where Eric, Jeff and Lorra
jump in and tell you how much of a model biker I really am! :-)


|> 
|> 
|> Rodney Pesavento						CBR600F2

But seriously, the more the merrier on this trip.  I'm not planning any sort
of reservations for hotels . . . just play it by ear.

Any of you moto types in Austin got suggestions on what to do, where to
go, in Austin when the day's deeds are over?  Recommendations on some decent
places to crash (read 'not too expensive, but a safe neighborhood for the
bikes to be parked in')?

Later guys/gals

Mark
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From: jet@karazm.math.uh.edu (J Eric Townsend)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Austin Thang
Date: 14 Apr 92 06:42:03 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: UH Dept of Math



First off, I just saw on the news that we're in for a weekend of
t-storms/showers....

"John" == John Howard Osborn <osborn@cs.utexas.edu> writes:

John> -Mother's (veggie, vaguly texmex, but not really)

But good *mexican* food.  And other stuff too.  (I took a friend there
and it was 5 minutes or so before they noticed that there's *no* meat
on the menu.)

John> -Chuy's (serious
John> texmex, huge portions, great deco, usually a wait)

I hope it's better than the one in Houston, which sucks, quite
frankly.  I had their "911 chicken" and I thought about asking them to
try using something other than food coloring for hot-stuff.


John> Eric- When will you be here Friday?

Dunno.  Depends on when I leave.  Some people are willing to take a
day off work.  Others (lorra...) are trying to convince me to leave in
the afternoon.

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From: rodney@copper.eng.hou.compaq.com (Rodney Pesavento)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Austin Thang
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:21:28 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.

In article <JET.92Apr14004203@karazm.math.uh.edu> jet@karazm.math.uh.edu (J Eric Townsend) writes:
>
>
>First off, I just saw on the news that we're in for a weekend of
>t-storms/showers....
>

Oh great, I HATE THE RAIN!! ;-(

it's all my fault, you can blame it on me. it rained the day my cycle was
delivered. it rained the first weekend i had it. it even rains in my dreams
about riding. hell, i'll just cancel so you all will have a nice sunny 
weekend. 

seriously, i've only ridden in the rain twice and hated it both times. i 
don't have a rain suit and got a little beat up by mother nature...was 
not fun! 

but, on the other hand the next day, after it cleared up the roads were 
very sticky 8-) and i DID like that. so, i guess i could go fork over $90
for a tour master rain suit, IF it's only going to rain a LITTLE on friday.
                  ^^^^^^^^^
i supose it will come in handy in the future. BTW, in case you didn't catch
it, i'm asking for advice on a rain suit.

rodney pesavento						CBR600F2
Any statement that could be consider as an opinion, isn't.
From: mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: romp in the hills(?) outside of Austin on Easter Weekend
Date: 10 Apr 92 13:29:05 GMT
Reply-To: mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Distribution: tx
Originator: mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <ku9eh4INNfai@estoril.cs.utexas.edu>, wilson@cs.utexas.edu (Paul Wilson) writes:
|> Keep me (or this group) posted... I'm likely to go unless something
|> comes up.
|> 


Paul, 

	Seeing how you're in Austin, would it be possible to use you
as a 'reference' point?  In other words, could you recommend a place where
all of us could rendezvous?

Mark

p.s. -- Still looking for rec's on what to do in Austin, where to go, etc.
	when our daily deeds are done!? ;-)




-- 
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From: brad@cs.utexas.edu (Brad Blumenthal)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: MORE: romp in the hills(?) outside of Austin on Easter Weekend
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:15:55 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
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This is not the all time, world-class list of places, but it will do
for you casual tourist types :-)....

In article <11217@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:
>
>
>Meet up with others in Austin at a predetermined rendezvous (Paul, this is 
>where you come in . . . . what's fairly easy to find?  let's say, a 
>restaurant . . .  Tex-Mex sounds fine to me)  Time is going to depend on

Tex-Mex places in Austin that would be good to meet and eat at:
Trudy's (South Lamar or 30th and Guadalupe), Jaime's (9th and Red River),
El Mercado (South 1st street).

Another good place would be the Iron Works barbecue place on east 1st 
street just west of I-35.  

The Posse beer garden has a certain charm (Duval and San Jacinto).

BTW, I reccommend I-10 to the 71 turn-off in Columbus instead of 290 from
Houston to Austin.  Approximate travel time is 3 hours door-to-door.

>What are your all's interests?  Drinking?  Music? Drinking? Comedy?  Drinking?

Hot tickets for beer:  Crown and Anchor (San Jacinto and Speedway --
just up the street from the Posse, great selection, nice garden), Dog
and Duck (Guadalupe and 17th, passable imitation Brit pub), B.B.
Rovers (Jollyville Road -- way the hell up northwest, great selection),
Maggie Mae's (Sixth Street, great selection, often crowded by
stooodents).

Hot tickets for music: Antone's (Guadalupe and 29th, blues -- can be
expensive and tends to start late), Cactus Cafe (23rd and Guadalupe in
the Texas Union (on campus) -- good to great folk depending on who's in
town, check the Austin Chronicle), almost anywhere on Sixth Street
between I-35 and Congress (Black Cat Lounge particularly -- major
rock), La Zona Rosa (3rd St. west until it dead ends -- Texas blues),
for jazz, Top of the Mark (Sixth Street just east of Lamar, over Katz's
deli -- a bit expensive and yup).

>Anyway . . . .. . get up Saturday . . .for those who can . . . grab a bite
>to eat and hit the road.

*The* place to go for Saturday breakfast is Cisco's Bakery on Sixth
Street about a mile or so east of I-35.  The best juevos migas in the
universe.  

Other places to cruise to:  The Pier, a dockside bar (take 2244 west,
and turn right at the transformer garden 1.5 miles west of 360, follow
the twisties until you see the sign), the Oasis (if you must) for sunsets
(2222 to 620, left on 620 and follow the sign to Hippie Hollow and Windy
Point), Mt. Bonnell (Mt. Bonnell Rd off of 2222, cruise until you see
the steps), Dry Gulch Boat Dock (or whatever it's called, small bar
with a really crotchity old fart bartender just before Mt Bonnell).

>Let's see a show of hands of who's going.  Who can leave

If I had a bike, and was going to be in town.  Maybe next time.

Take care,
brad
DoD #714 ("Just the facts, ma'am.")