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From: tinag@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Re: Steeleye Span Song
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 16:57:47 GMT


In article <1992Oct8.223532.9542@pony.Ingres.COM>, jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger) writes:
> In article <ld9b19INNt8d@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, landauer@morocco.Eng.Sun.COM (Doug Landauer) writes:
>>For what it's worth, these were in American dictionaries.  Perhaps
>>some of our UK readers or other OED owners could verify whether more
>>weaving-related meanings exist for some of these (e.g., rood,
>>smallclothes).
> 
> "Rood" doesn't strike me as requiring further explanation, if it's a
> measure of cloth.  That would be a fairly reasonable thing for a weaver
> to be carrying around, assuming that he derives income from selling the
> result of his weaving.

I could be way off here, but in an Old English course I did--well, 
half-did--a couple of years ago, we studied an OLD poem called
The Dream of the Rood.  In that poem, 'rood' translated as cross.
Now, I'm not familiar with this song, but having glanced through a
couple of these articles on it, the translation of rood as cross
would seem to fit too--assuming the weaver was Christian!!

If there are any other English majors or OE-knowledgable types out 
there, I stand to be corrected.

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>    -__ __ /_   Jon Berger              "If you push something hard enough,
>   //_// //_/   jonb@ingres.com          it will fall over."
> _/ ---------                              - Fudd's First Law of Opposition

Tina
From: rm4@st-andrews.ac.uk (Rosa Michaelson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Robert Johnson - "President McKinley"
Date: 13 Oct 92 10:59:14 GMT
Organization: Dundee University

I have a copy of Darby and Tarlton record on Folkways - at least I think
it is them - singing this song. Perhaps rural blues (white) might be the
origin. I distinctly remember the song cos I tried to learn it in 1974...
along with a railroad song from an Uncle Dave Macon compilation with 'fiddlin'
kate.
Isn't the folkways recording earlier than the reputed Robert Johnston version 
which did not seem to be on my fairly recent cd compilation of 'all known
recordings'..
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: nmrdb@vms.macc.wisc.edu (BEVERLY SEAVEY)
Subject: Re: American Folklife Center: relatively good news
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date:  7 OCT 92 11:05:20    

In article <1992Oct7.150507.16953@henson.cc.wwu.edu>, lopresti@henson.cc.wwu.edu (lopresti robert) writes...

> 
>As some of you may remember, the bill authorizing the Amercan 
>sorry, American Folklife Center in the Library of Congress for the 
>next five years was shot down in the HOuse.  The HOuse finally
.
.
.
Is the Festival of American Folklife that is held on the mall every
summer part of this same funding?
From: kdawson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Kathryn E Dawson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Lucinda Williams concert info?
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:52:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Ohio State University

My sister mentioned that Lucinda will be playing in St. Louis this
fall.  Does anyone have a concert schedule for her, especially
any Ohio venues?

BTW, Thanks for all the previous posts on Lucinda, which motivated me
to start listening to her music.  Her energetic style is perfect for
highway traveling, especially when punctuated with fiddle.  To me,
she comes across as a fast-tempo Nanci Griffith with a little bit of
Janis Joplin rowdiness thrown in.

Kathryn
From: colm@mathcs.emory.edu (Colm Mulcahy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Ray Fisher
Date: 9 Oct 92 00:43:35 GMT
Organization: sometimes, but never early in the morning

In article <10974@gibbon.ed.ac.uk> colin@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Colin Matheson) writes:
>In article <s0319198.6.0@let.rug.nl> s0319198@let.rug.nl (E.B. Meijerink) writes:
>
>>Does anybody know if (or when) the Scottish singer Ray Fisher is coming to 
>>Europe?
>
>There's a Scottish Folk Festival tour planned in Germany from the
>middle of January for about 3 weeks, and Ray Fisher is one of the acts

Well, you beat me to it!  I spoke to Ray today, and she told me this was indeed
the plan, with no other continental dates envisioned at this point.

She mentioned that Highway have reissued The Bonny Birdy without her permission
or knowledge, she was not happy about this.  The sleeve has been slightly
altered, and at keast two different pressings have been made in recent times.
Anyone seen these?

Anybody know excatly when this LP was released?  It's dated 1972, though she
vaguely recalled a Nov 1971 release party that may not have been followed up
by the album (there were delays..).

The tracks with members of Steeleye Span were recorded in May 1971, while SS
were doing music for a Keith Dewhurst show in a theatre.  He did an album with
the Albions later of course.

Martin Carthy's birthday is in May.  I think.

I like chocolate.  

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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: Bill_Moore@Novell.COM (Bill Moore)
Subject: Looking for Bluegrass Disscusions
Organization: Novell NPD, Sandy, Utah
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:01:37 GMT

If this is the incorrect news group to post this to, I apologize.

I checked out the rec.music answers FAQ, and, unless I just missed it,
I didn't find anything dealing with Bluegrass.

I have been reading this group for only a few months, and have only
seen a smattering of discussions on Bluegrass Music.  If this is not
the correct news group, can someone please just email me with the correct
news group, mailing list or alt. group, I would greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

-Bill

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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,rec.boats
From: bowers@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Al Bowers)
Subject: Leo Kottke (guitarist) and Hobie Cats (sailboats)...
Organization: NASA Dryden, Edwards, Cal.
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 21:22:09 GMT


I just bought a video called "Sharing the Wind" by R. Paul Allen.  It
is about Hobie Cat sailboats.  But of interest is the opening theme is
Leo Kottke playing "Buckaroo".  The video footage is excellent, and so
is the giuitar playing.  Especially the surfing footage in Hawaii with
Dean Froome and Jonnie Driscoll sailing through 20 foot breakers on a
Hobie 18. (!?!)

For you bonafide Kottke and/or Hobie fans.  So seldom do my esoteric
hobies line-up like this.  Like the fact that Ducati built engines for
Alfa Romeo...

--
"But the fact that a 1938 touring bodied Alfa Romeo I once had is
worth $1 million sometimes bothers the hell out of me.  It's a
personal problem."                                     -Phil Hill
Al Bowers                                 bowers@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov
Iaido   Takamine   Hobie   Rossignol   Alfa Romeo  Ducati (DOD #900)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: judym@col.hp.com (Judy Miller)
Subject: Re: Joan Baez - The night they drove old dixie down
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 23:54:41 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

> >The night they drove old dixie down.'. I recently bought a Joan Baez budget 
> >CD which contains this song. It's 'the essential JOAN BAEZ. from the heart-
> >live'. It is on A&M records and its cateloguenumber is: 397 085-2.
> 
>     I hadn't seen this yet.  A&M?  Is this a CD version of From Every Stage?
> Any other Joan Baez fans out there know what is on her new album coming out
> on the 7th?
> 								Wade

Does anyone have a Joan Baez discography?
Or just a list of favorite albums?

Judy
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: birkelan@baobab.Berkeley.EDU (Joel Birkeland)
Subject: Acoustic and Roots Music Periodicals: Summer '92 Guide
Keywords: Acoustic Music
Reply-To: birkelan@baobab.Berkeley.EDU (Joel Birkeland)
Organization: SPS
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:50:27 GMT


I would like to call attention to the "Summer '92 Guide
to Acoustic and Roots Music Periodicals", put out by
Dirty Linen, Sing Out, and The Mandocrucian's Digest. It
is a listing of diverse and eclectic publications which
cover acoustic, folk, bluegrass, blues and related types
of music.

It contains a listing of instrument related publications
which include the following:

	Accordian
	Autoharp
	Balalaika
	Banjo
	Dobro
	Dulcimer
	Fiddle
	Guitar
	Harmonica
	Harp
	Mandolin
	Zither
	Percussive Arts

There is also a listing of Fan and Musician magazines, and
related publications.

Copies are available from:

	Mandocrucian's Digest
	P.O. Box 3585
	Winchester, VA
	22604

They ask for 52 cents to cover mailing costs.  It is worth it.
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: bowers@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Al Bowers)
Subject: Leo Kottke: Paul Bunyan...
Organization: NASA Dryden, Edwards, Cal.
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:36:23 GMT


Just got the children's album titled "Paul Bunyan" as narrated by
Jonathan Winters and music by Leo Kottke.  There are a few original
compositions, but a few are old Kottke used to fill the mood.  A very
nice 30 minute cassette.  My sons like the story, and I like the
music.  What can I say?

I got it at the Sesame Street Store in Torrance, CA (Del Amo Mall).  I
imagine that most educational kid's stores would be able to get it.
It's put out by Rabbit Ears Productions (the folks who did the
Velveteen Rabbit story for Target a couple of X-mas' ago)...

--
"But the fact that a 1938 touring bodied Alfa Romeo I once had is
worth $1 million sometimes bothers the hell out of me.  It's a
personal problem."                                     -Phil Hill
Al Bowers                                 bowers@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov
Iaido   Takamine   Hobie   Rossignol   Alfa Romeo  Ducati (DOD #900)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: hendricks@cdrom.enet.dec.com (Holly Hendricks)
Subject: Re: American Folklife Center: relatively good news
Reply-To: hendricks@cdrom.enet.dec.com
Organization: DEC
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 02:44:16 GMT


I find it amazing and saddening that with all the money that
gets wasted in this country, our congressfolks would even consider
not funding such a profoundly rich and irreplaceable resource 
of American culture!  To me it is of equal importance to anything
else the Smithsonian preserves.

I worked at the Arhive of American Folksong (its previous name)
as a student intern back in 1976 under Joe Hickerson and Gerry Parsons.
Of all the educational experiences and opportunities I have had
as I collected academic degrees over the years, this was 
A-number-1.  As an undergraduate, I had the opportunity to
prepare a bibliography for the Archive (all Interns did) which
they published and distributed for years.  (My topic was women
in folk music.)  When I assisted in the reading room, I had
the opportunity to wait on people such as Charles Seeger, although
I didn't know who he was until afterwards.

The book and print collection is excellent, but the heart of
the collection is the one-of-a-kind field recordings.

The collection includes wax cylinders made in the field by
very early 20th century folklorists as well as an
enormous number of tape recordings.  A great deal of work has
been done to preserve and protect the fragile media; if the
funding gets pulled, much of the non-print material is likely to
be lost forever.

The collection includes original Woody Guthrie letters, many of the
Lomax field recordings, a great deal of Appalachian music, native
American music, and much much more.  

Much of the collection had been catalogued on cards by interns
like myself; when I visited a few years ago, I was glad to see
that much of the data was being transferred online.

The Archive serves the public through correspondence, phone 
inquiries, and research opportunities.  Numerous bibliographies
on folk subjects were mailed out every day when I was interning
there.

If you are in the habit of communicating with your congresspersons,
please put this on your list well before it comes to vote in the fall!

Holly
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   hendricks@cdrom.enet.dec.com
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From: leighann@alpine.sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: "Queen of Argyll"--words needed
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:41:31 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc., Emeryville, CA

THE QUEEN OF ALL ARGYLL

Gentlemen, it is my duty
to inform you of one beauty,
though I'd ask of you a favor no' to see her for a while.
Though I own she is a creature,
of character and feature,
no words could paint the picture of the queen of all Argyll.

Cho:	And if you could have seen her there,
	boys if you had just been there,
	the swan was in her movement and the morning in her smile.
	All the roses in the garden,
	they bow and ask her pardon,
	for not one could match the beauty of the queen of all Argyll.

On the evening that I mention,
I passed with light intention
through a part of our dear country known for beauty and for style,
being a place of noble thinkers,
of scholars and great drinkers,
far above them all for splendor shone the queen of all Argyll.

(cho)

Now my lads I needs must leave you;
my intention's no' to grieve you,
nor indeed will I deceive you, no, I'll see you in a while.
I must find some way to gain her,
to court her and obtain her,
oh I fear my heart's in danger from the queen of all Argyll.



----------------
Leigh Ann Hussey 		leighann@sybase.com
"They're mine!  All mine!  And what's mine is mine!" - Daffy Duck
From: wald@theory.lcs.mit.edu (David Wald)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: What ever became of Uncle Bonsai?
Date: 10 Oct 92 17:56:39 GMT
Organization: Laboratory for Computer Science, MIT

In article <1992Oct10.000740.11373@col.hp.com> judym@col.hp.com (Judy
Miller) writes:
>> Their album "Boys Want Sex in the Morning" is still listed in
>> PhonoLog as being in print on LP and cassette, but not CD.  Does
>> anyone know if it is in fact available (in any format), and if so
>> where?
>
>I just bought a copy on CD about a month ago.  It's great!

Is this still without a lyric sheet and with an incorrect playlist?  I
was very disappointed when I picked this up, and it would be nice if
they've fixed it.

-David
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Xref: sparky rec.music.folk:6881 rec.music.misc:25004
From: swf@teradata.com (Stanley Friesen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Steeleye Span Song
Keywords: Usenet Artists Polls
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:26:00 GMT
Reply-To: swf@tdat.teradata.com (Stanley Friesen)
Organization: NCR Teradata Database Business Unit

In article <24155@sybase.sybase.com> leighann@alpine.sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey) writes:
|In article <1992Sep22.215729.12043@pony.Ingres.COM>, jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger) writes:
||> 	Oh, when I was a tailor, I carried my bodkin and shears.
||> 	When I was a weaver, I carried my rood and my gear.
||> 	My temples also, my small clothes and reed in my hand.
|           ^^^^^^^          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
||> 	And wherever I go, there's the jolly bold weaver again.
|
|I sing it as "templates" and "shuttle" (why would this guy be carrying
|around his underwear, after all... ;-).
|
Hey, how about that!  An argument on one of the phrases I was unsure about
when I posted the request for the words!

Now, which is correct?
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  or
Stanley.Friesen@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com
From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Help me, please
Date: 14 Oct 92 05:29:11 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

In article <2651@tymix.Tymnet.COM> filfeit@rael.Tymnet.COM (Fil Feit) writes:


>2.Title/Artist for a song where they rattle off, at high speed, music-related
>   bits, with a chorus that goes something like,

	       Life is a rock,
	       But my radio rolled me.
	       Gotta turn it up louder,
	       So my DJ told me.
"Life Is a Rock (But the Radio Rolled Me)..."   recored by Reunion
N Dolph/ P DiFranco J Levine- Crazy Chords music, B.M.I

I love my old 70's K-Tel Records! This one's called "Out of Sight"
20 Original Hits 20 Original Stars! Came out in 1975.
(Saturday Night's All Right for Fighting, Beach Baby, After the
Goldrush (the Prelude version), Kung fu Fighting....and don't forget
the DeFranco Family....
   


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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: dhw@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us (David West)
Subject: Re: another odd word
Organization: Plex-1, Michigan's Public Access Usenet Gateway  (Ann Arbor).
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 04:43:43 GMT

In article <6107@dove.nist.gov> cst@bork.nist.gov (Charles S. Tarrio) writes:
>Since we're increasing our vocabularies, I thought I'd ask about the
>Silly Sisters song, "Doffin' Mistress".  I've looked up doff in a few
>dictionaries, and all I've found is the current meaning, to err.  I
>presume from context that it has something to do with weaving, but if
>anyone could verify this, it would ease my mind.

To "doff" means to remove (from "do off"); it is the opposite of to "don"
(from "do on").  Doffing in this context is the removal of spooled thread
when the spools have become full.  The Doffing Mistress was in charge of
the workers ("Doffers") who did that.  The exhortation in the song to
"tie up your ends" is to prevent the thread from unwinding from the spools.
 
-- 
-David West            dhw@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us

"Ce n'e'tait pas un empire comme il faut, mais nous nous sommes diablement
bien amuse's."  -Col. Fleury, aide-de-camp of Napoleon III
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: danube@max.physics.sunysb.edu (Dan Koller*)
Subject: Postcrypt Cafe at Columbia U.
Organization: Institute for Theoretical Physics
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:03:17 GMT

     I have been told that the person who runs the Postcrypt Cafe at
Columbia University has an E-mail account somewhere.  If anybody knows
it, please forward it to me.  Some friends and I would like to know
what's going on there via E-mail if possible.
     Thanks.
						Danube

Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: anda@ahpcrc.umn.edu (Andrew A. Anda)
Subject: PBS Civil War Series Theme: request for info
Organization: University of Minnesota, AHPCRC
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 02:09:27 GMT


I am looking for information on where to find the transcription for violin of the 
PBS Civil War Series Theme (Ashoken ... ?).  Any clue as to author, publisher,
complete title, etc. (or if it's in a compilation) would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

&y&a
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: bosak@netcom.com (Jon Bosak)
Subject: Re: Robert Johnson - "President McKinley"
Organization: Netcom, a Commercial Internet Service in San Jose
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 04:28:13 GMT


Nathan Tenny (tenny@euclid.uucp) writes:

NT> In the liner notes to the Robert Johnson collection, someone
NT> mentions that Johnson, before he recorded, used to play something
NT> called "President McKinley," "a slide song derived from 'Frankie
NT> and Johnny.'"  Has anything about this song survived---did anyone
NT> else record it, or anything?
NT> 
NT> I'm not too sure how one would derive a slide song from "Frankie
NT> and Johnny," nor what President McKinley would have to do with
NT> it.

I'm not sure what the connection with "Frankie and Johnny" is, either,
but the song is probably related to one known variously as "McKinley" or
"White House Blues" or "Buffalo to Washington" that has been recorded by
a number of country and bluegrass bands over the years.  It is, of
course, about the assassination of President William McKinley, who was
shot by Leon Czolgosz at the Pan-American Exposition in Buffalo on
September 6, 1901.  McKinley didn't actually die until September 14, and
the song presumably refers to his trip back to Washington.  The first
couple of verses (quoting from memory) go something like this:

  Hey, Mister McKinley
  Why didn't you run
  When you see that man a-coming
  With a Johnson forty-one
          (alternatively: With that Ivor Johnson gun*)

    From Buffalo...
    To Washington

  Doctor comes a-runnin'
  Takes off his specs
  Says, "Mister McKinley
  You done cashed your checks"

    From Buffalo...
    To Washington

Perhaps someone can post the whole song; it's been a long time since I
heard it.  I seem to remember that the Carter Family did one version.  I
have never heard of a blues version of the song; does anyone know more
about the "McKinley" mentioned in the Robert Johnson notes?

* The Ivor Johnson company can claim credit for building the revolvers
used in at least two famous American assassinations in this century, the
other being, I believe, that of Robert Kennedy.  Strangely, the company
has never used this fact in their advertising.  Too bad, the song would
make a great jingle.

+----------------------------------------------------------------------+
 Jon Bosak  Sunnyvale, California : bosak@netcom.com  jbosak@novell.com
+----------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: rsk@gynko.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Ian Matthews - career summary
Date: 7 Oct 92 12:16:22 GMT
Organization: Cardiothoracic Imaging Research Center

I'd like to recommend two of Matthews' albums from the 70's to
interested listeners.   "Somedays you eat the bear...Somedays
the bear eats you" is difficult to find, but worth the search.
"Valley Hi" is a wonderful album, which includes "Seven Bridges Road",
a track made somewhat popular by the Eagles.

One other Matthews' track of note is "Gimme an Inch" from "Stealin' Home";
I believe that the latter was released in the mid-80's, but I could easily
be wrong.  "Gimme an Inch" received some FM airplay, and still turns
up from time to time.

---rsk
From: ndrose@husc8.harvard.edu (Nathan Rose)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Andy's Front Hall address
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:02:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Oct7.160249.16148
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

Andy's Front Hall
P.O. Box 307
Wormer Road
Voorheesville, NY 12186

ORDERS: 1-800-759-1775

service: (518) 765-4193


Great place. Ever been there? I was driving through once and decided to stop.
took me an hour to find the place, circling Albany county. It was worth it, though.

Nathan Rose
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: byau@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ben Yau)
Subject: HELP with song lyrics/name/artist
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 08:32:09 GMT


Hi.
i hope someone can help me out with this.

there is a song that is really strange lyrics that was played to me when I 
was a kid a lot..
i just remember the chorus kinda goes something like this:

smoke coca-cola cigarettes
drink wrigley spearmint beer
.....  (don't remember)
makes your wife's complextion clear

midasize your tires with a Hersheys' candy bar
......  

help?  please?

thanks much!
ben
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: hookman@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Andrew R Hill)
Subject: FAQ? fpt site?
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 00:44:41 GMT


sorry if this is a FAQ, but what IS the node address for the music
archive ftp site?

-Andrew