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From: puri@enel.ucalgary.ca (Ruchir Puri)
Subject: Re: Nobel Prize & IITs
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 05:32:00 GMT
Organization: ECE Department, U. of Calgary, Calgary, Alberta, Canada

In article <23379@optima.cs.arizona.edu> lal@cs.arizona.edu (The New Sun) writes:
>
>First of all I am not sure what private colleges and Govt.engg. colleges Vikas is refering to. I can say once again that the education I have recieved so far for my B.S. at CSUS and at Arizona is much better than any IIT.
>The practical training and the equipment is vastly superior. Where in India would you be able to work with Intel beta test versions of their products, Workstations, Vax clusters, IBM PCs, Macs, IBM minis, have CAD VLSI design software, Digital and Analog circuit design tools, 24hr lab access, get the newest products from the market to work with (Xilinx 4000 series FPGAs)?
>	(In an Undergraduate program)
>	If you would get all these facilities in an Indian Undergraduate program, please tell me. I would like to transfer there to finish my education, if transferring is not possible then go for my Ms. there. Of course the M.S. program must have twice as many facilities and resources available as compared to the undergraduate program.
>	IIT be loved.
>
>Thanks
>
>Abhinav Lal
>

Well.. in IIT Kanpur, The main system is HP 9000 series 800 (the first 
installation in Asia) It can be accessed from diff. departments on the campus...

There are 16 HP high resolution graphics work stations...
There are number of appolo's and SUNs(wipro) 
SPARCs are being procured from wipro.... 
not to mention the PCs :-)

Oh yes... 24 hrs lab access... (Graduate/Senior Undergrad doing major projects 
get keys to labs)...

CAD Tools : VTI IC Tools and NELSIS IC Design system from Delft Netherlands... 
and a number of Inhouse PLA/FSM design tools....

There is a CAD center as well.... 

+ Access to an educational FAB. lab.. where you can start from wafers (unpolished)
Do diffusion etc. and make some real circuitry with your own hands...
(do you have that :-)

+ The theoretical emphasis is high.... 

One negative point is that there is no central facility to get chips fabricated
like Candian Microelectronics Corp. (does it for free for Univs.) and
like MOSIS (fab. at nominal costs).  
The efforts for that are being made to get fab. facility from 
Semiconductor Complex Ltd at Chandigarh.

--Ruchir

-- 
Ruchir Puri                    VLSI Gp., Dept. of Elect. & Computer Engg.
puri@enel.UCalgary.CA          The University of Calgary, Calgary, CANADA - T2N1N4
403-220-4870 (Dept Ph.)        403-284-5825 (Home Ph.), 403-282-6855 (Dept FAX)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: porayath@IASTATE.EDU (Rajiv Porayath)
Subject: Re: UN map sans Kashmir
To: v122npej@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Sareer A Fazili)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:55:05 GMT

There is only one problem in Kashmir that is a part of it is illegally occupied
by pakisthan and called POK(Pakisthan Occupied Kashmir),the only solution is
the
meager of that region with the state of J &K.This land was illegally occupied in
1948 when pathan raiders along with pakisthani troops attacked the kingdom
of Kashmir.On request of the King the Indian army defended the state against
the attackers and spilled their blood to prevent the plunder of Kashmir which
includes the famous rape in baramulla of a convent housing nuns.Over the years 
J & K has received central government money and sent representatives to the
lok sabha.Besides this the GOI has protected the Kashmiri culture and prevented
outsiders from buying land or moving into Kashmir whereas in POK ,sindhis  and
Punjabis own most of the business and form a major portion of the population
with Kashmiris working as menial workers in the slums of Karachi.

           Kashmiri referandum does not hold any more as the time as passed
and the very fact of holding a referandum has never been legitimised,the
discussion between Nehru and Lord Mountbatton is debatable and does not hold
anymore.The only truth that holds now is that either Kashmiris and wake up from
 their daydreaming and end supporting terrorists so that their children can
lead
fruiyful lifes or be condemned to a situation similar to North Ireland the
only people who suffer are the Kashmiris.For the GOI and the so called Nehru
socialists it is a lesson that good deeds do not pay always,if they had allowed
outsiders to buy land and property in Kashmir the problem would not have risen 
as in POK,It is not too late we can still resettle the valley with those who
are willing to take the risk by giving them arms and training and providing
land (the israli style),slowly the demography can be changed.

_RAJIV PORAYATH
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: cpatil@cse.uta.edu (Chetan D Patil)
Subject: SOME BABY JOKES
Organization: Computer Science Engineering at the University of Texas at Arlington
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 11:22:27 GMT


Hi Fellow netters,
	These jokes are from some coverless book :

	1) What is red and bubbling and scratches at the window ?

	A baby in a microwave oven.


	2) Why do you put the baby feet first in the blender ?

	So that you can watch its expression.


	3) What is the perfect gift for a dead baby ?

	A dead puppy.

	4) What is the difference between a truckload of dead babies and
	   a truckload of bowling balls ?

	You can use the pitchfork with the babies.



	The following joke is not to be taken as demeaning etc..


	A Pole and an Italian were having an argument about who folds
	a parachute bests. It was decided to settle the matter by
	judging the mid air performance of the parachutes.
	So they hire a plane and set off to high altitudes.
	The Pole jumps first, pulls the cord, the chute opens and he
	slowly drifts down.
	The Italian jumps next, pulls the cord and nothing happens.
	He pulls the safety cord and still nothing happens and he
	plummets down towards the earth like a stone.
	The Pole sees him passing by,says " so you wanna race eh !"
	and pulls off his chute.



	Have funnn....

	Chetan
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:33057 soc.culture.pakistan:15479
From: merchant@davidsys.com (Rukhsana Merchant)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Islam and Science 
Date: 5 Oct 92 11:45:20 PST
Organization: DAVID Systems Inc, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Oct3.162231.7382@sarah.albany.edu>, ys3359@thor.albany.edu (Yazmasterj) writes:
> In article <1992Oct2.124531.30546@davidsys.com> merchant@davidsys.com (Rukhsana Merchant) writes:

>>	On the authority of Abu Huraira 'Abd ar-Rahman ibn
>>Sakhr (may Allah be pleased with him), who said: I heard the 
>>Messenger of Allah (may the blessings and peace of Allah be upon
>>him) say:
>>
>>	What I have forbidden to you, avoid; what I have ordered 
>>	you [to do], do as much of it as you can.  It was only their
>>	excessive questioning and thier disagreeing with their 
>>	Prophets that destroyed those who were before you.
>>
>>	It was related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.
> 
> Just one question.  When does questioning become 'excessive', and at which
> point does lack of questioning result in a closed mind?  (so it was a two
> parter; sue me)
> 
The hadith was something to ponder upon.  You have to answer the question
(two parter) for yourself.
> 
> Khudahafiz
> 
> Yasmin

Assalamu Alaikum, Wa Rahmutallah, Wa Barakatu...

-Rukhsana
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rgopu@cs.tamu.edu (Rangarathnam Gopu)
Subject: Re: World Culture and Western Culture
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:00:37 GMT

In article <JMC.92Sep29124216@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU writes:
>I think I can agree with all that Brijnandan S. Dehiya posts.  I didn't
>know that the British ban on sati was instigated by Indian reformers.
>I didn't even realize there were Indian reformers so early.
>
	18th century is early???? Hey we are talking Indian history here. :-)

>Let me return to the original questions.
>
>1. Is there a world culture today?
>
	Dont think so, far too much diversity. There are IMHO certain
	aspects of culture that are global - to a great degree at least.
	Among these would be Hollywood and Bollywood movies, Coke,
	clashes between tradition and liberalism / modernity, the
	mix of religion and politics, and interest in certain major
	sports and a growing awareness of the environment's importance.

>2. Is it substantially based on European culture?  The non-European

	I doubt that there is something that can be called European
	culture that could distinguish itself from say, Latin American
	and North American culture (no comments on their diversity). 

>influences on European culture are secondary to this question.
>Benevolence or greed or lack thereof also have nothing to do with it.
>
>3. Assuming there is pretty much of a world culture, what are the
>exceptions to its prevalence in various countries, e.g. India, that
>seem destined to survive?
>
	India should be viewed more as a threat to other cultures than
	as a possible victim, IMHO. Till the 16th century at least, the
	impact of Indian culture was tremendous in most of Asia. Today,
	India is feeling the impact of a Westernized elite and
	extreme urbanization, but still there is so much to "Indian
	culture" and it is still so prevalent, that I doubt very much any
	major damage in the near or long term future.

	One thing must be noted. Culture is pretty dynamic. It keeps
	evolving, borrowing and adapting all the time. Closed minds
	can harm a culture more than any external influences, which actually
	just add a few more facets to what's already there. Regionalism
	and xenophobia are more to be feared than globalization.

>The reason for raising these questions is the American debate about
>basing required college courses on "western civilization".
				     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
				     beautiful oxymoron. ;-)
>--
>John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
>He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.
>

Gopu
--
rgopu@cs.tamu.edu			ParukkuLE nalla naadu
Texas A&M University			EngaL Baaratha naadu
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:32514 soc.culture.tamil:2548
From: hdeshma@eos.ncsu.edu (HARSHAVARDHAN  DESHMANE)
Subject: Re: Mailing discarded journals to India
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:35:16 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.125852.17478@news2.cis.umn.edu> crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD)) writes:
>In article <susanc.718308886@keckiris> susanc@rice.edu (susan chacko) writes:
>>Anyone have any information about mailing discarded journals to India?
>>I know I've seen at least one post in the past with the addresses of
>
>So what do you do, fish through the dumpster for discarded journals and 
>send them to India?  Seems like an expensive way to dispose of garbage,
>wouldn't it be cheaper to send it to Canada, they have lots of room for
>landfills.
>
>>Susan.
>>
>
>Ed
>


oooh! what a cruel barb, how enerringly you find the exact ways that indians
operate. Man, ed, you are to be highly respected for your awesome knowledge
of things/behaviour indian, as well the tremendous attempts at wit..

btw, you jerk, this was what you were fishing for, wasnt it?
like clinton would say " it's so pitiable"..

-harsh
-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
Harshavardhan Deshmane, ECE Dept.                   hdeshma@croc.ece.ncsu.edu
North Carolina State University.                    hdeshma@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Atharvan)
Subject: Re: soc.islam
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 06:25:38 GMT

In article <92269.135222U11983@uicvm.uic.edu> Shyamala Parameswaran <U11983@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
[...]
>>
>
>Yes, but without the swipes taken at Nagarajan or Shakil - their
>differences in points of view notwithstanding. It didn't help
>your arguments at all.
>
>Shyamala Parameswaran


1] Say: O unbeliever, 
   You have your reasons, I have mine.
   
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From: rohan@nmc.cit.cornell.edu (Rohan Oberoi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Looking for a suitable bride for my friend
Date: 4 Oct 92 14:44:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: tc.1992Oct4.144433.8946
Organization: Cornell Network Management Center

In article <BvG7nv.2Bp@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v999ryyy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Rajiv Misra) writes:
|> LOOKING FOR A SUITABLE BRIDE FOR MY FRIEND
|> Hindu match for Kayasth(North Indian),completing Ph.D in Computer Science
|> from one of the top universities,30,permanent resident,has been in US for
|> the last 7 years, financially secure, has worked as Systems Analyst for a
|> Fortune 500 company, Indian values/culture, non smoker/drinker,polite and
|> easy going, open on settling in India/US.
|> [Girl should not be more than 5'2" tall.]

 [ stuff deleted]

Help !!  It's the invasion of the Times matrimonials !

*;-)

Rohan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: parmar@ntmtv.UUCP (Amrik Parmar)
Subject: Punjabi Fonts
Originator: parmar@pytha
Reply-To: parmar@ntmtv.UUCP (Amrik Parmar)
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:21:54 GMT

    I am looking for Punjabi Fonts software for Mac or PC.
    Could someone who knows where to get them please let me
    know.

    Thanks in advance.

                                  amrik parmar

                                   415 940 2297

Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:33128 soc.culture.pakistan:15493
From: prem@cs.montana.edu (M.P.Premkumar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
Subject: STUDY ONE GET ONE FREE - SPOOF
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:33:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: coe.1992Sep29.173357.22015
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717

Hi Nettors,

I was just wondering how the ads in the US look like if fields like EDUCATION   were completely commercialised. Here is how I think they would look like:

	"STUDY ONE GET ONE FREE"

		You have been wondering if any institution ever thought about   	the poor people's education in the USA. Your dreams come true in the
	new, innovative and highly beneficial "STUDY ONE GET ONE FREE" program
	of the People's College of North Dakota.

		In this wonderful program you can study for a degree and get 
	another degree ABSOLUTELY FREE. No quizzes, no exams and no term papers
	for the additional degree program. But the best part is you need not 
	even attend classes for this additional degree. Isn't that wonderful ?

		If you are surprised just come on over to PCND and get ready to
	be amazed. Just look at what our successful students tell:  
	
	"It's kinda cool ya know. I studied Law and at the same time I got a 
	degree in forgery. Not only it saves you money but it saves you effort.
	Now I practice forgery pretty well and all the time I always have my Law	degree to help me out of problems."
						- Gary Forger (NH)
	
	"I got degrees in Medicine and Adulteration. Now I am going to college
	again to pick up my Masters in Adulteration. And they also have some 
	good Doctoral programs in this area. I guess I will go on for a Ph.D in
	adultery. There are very good internship oppurtunities in leading crooks	like the Chicago Real Medicine, Miami All-Cure and you get hands on 
	experience out in the real world. And they have good Placement too."
						
						- John Doctor (TX)

	"I thought like er It was just another scam untill I actually studied in	PCND. The dudes out there are er easy goin' and they really help you out	when you have problems like pregnancy, AIDS etc. I really really enjoyed	the college and the courses. They have facilities like an 800 number for	your sexual needs and what not. It's quite an experience. You gotta go 
	there and experience it. See yaa."
						- Jennifer Blonde (CA)
 		
	For more information and application materials call now
	1-800-FREE-DEGREE and give your credit card #. Or write to
	People's College of North Dakota
	P.O. BOX 4687-222
	Sioux Falls, ND 4687	

Sincerely yours,
M.P.Premkumar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bsind@cutie.acns.nwu.edu (Brijnandan S. Dehiya)
Subject: Re: World Culture and Western Culture
Keywords: To Ashmeet
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:11:35 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.204911.11132@odin.corp.sgi.com> as@sgi.com (Ashmeet  
Sidana) writes:
> mece21x@elroy.uh.edu (Yesudas, Michael) writes:
> 
>   > > bsind@speedy.acns.nwu.edu (Brijnandan S. Dehiya) writes:
>   > >
>   > >on India by introducing the Rail system.  The British judical  
system
>   > >says that a person is guilty till proven innocent (I may be wrong),
>   >
>   >You are. There can be no judicial system which can hold one guilty  
till
>   >proved innocent.(Except the one that pertains to ragging in IIT  
Kharagpur)
>   >As you can see a simple accusation is enough to make somebody's life  
hell.
> 
> Actually you are both wrong (or right:-).
> 
> There are *certain* parts of the Indian judicial system where you are
> guilty unless proven inoccent.
> 
> It used to be only under civil codes like the Income Tax Act, but now
> crimminal codes have also been added. The most recently famous (or
> infamous) being TADA.
> 
> ---Ashmeet


Ahem.. , please try to edit the messages carefully.The lines quoted under  
my name were NOT typed by me.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ta-vg11@muddnext26.cc.columbia.edu (Vikas Gupta)
Subject: LOOKING  FOR  SANTOSH KUMAR(VIKAS GUPTA)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:55:08 GMT




I am looking for SAntosh Kumar from BOSTON (???)
who was supposedly looking for me.


This is VIKAS GUPTA . I am at Columbia Univ. 

I am from IIT Bombay.Class of 91.
Metallurgical Engg.

My telephone # is 212 662 3027.

My e-mail is ta-vg11@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: fkhurshi@crc.ac.uk (Ms F. Khurshid)
Subject: Asian models?
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Keywords: modelling agencies and advertising
Organization: MRC Human Genome Resource Centre
Distribution: world,na
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:27:38 GMT

There has been a lot of publicity in the press here over the lack of
interest from Asian girls to enter the modelling business. Top modelling 
agencies are now actively seeking the first Asian supermodel to rival the big
names like Naomi Campbell, Linda Evangelista etc....as the few who have made 
it have been half-castes ((Yasmeen Ghauri -Asian/Canadian).

Well WE KNOW there are a lot of beautiful, exquisite asian women out there
and I have seen some advertising, well  ....Basmati rice :-), ....gold ..and
the latest fashionable 'shalwar kameez'. Haven't they been stereotyped in 
the kind of modelling they do?  I've never seen a 'strong' image come across 
by the advertisers of any Asians (male or female) .....could it be a case of 
white skin sells and black doesnt? 

How does it compare to how they are portrayed in advertising in Asian countries
themselves?


-- 
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Farha Khurshid                               email: fkhurshi@uk.ac.mrc-crc
Imperial Cancer Research Fund                     : f_khurshid@icrf.icnet.uk
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From: prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: test
Date: 6 Oct 1992 18:34:10 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Reply-To: prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem)
NNTP-Posting-Host: prem.lbl.gov

In article <1992Oct6.175755.22035@samba.oit.unc.edu> das@physics.unc.edu (Rupak Das) writes:
>
>	This is a test.

	Earth to dork, Earth to dork,
		It worked. But, here is the reply....

______________________________________________________________________________

				THIS IS A FLAME
______________________________________________________________________________

 Dear
    [ ] asshole [ ] fag         [*] ignorant snot       [ ] prick
    [ ] nerd    [ ] Elvis       [ ] lonely masturbator  [ ] computer geek
    [*] retard  [ ] sycophant   [ ] Samuel Stoddard

 You are being flamed because 

    [ ] you continued a boring useless stupid thread
    [ ] you repeatedly posted to the same thread that you just posted to
    [*] you posted a "test"
    [ ] you used vi and left a whole bunch of editing garbage on the
        screen
    [ ] you posted a request for an article which was posted three times
        in the past week
    [ ] you claimed to have the original GGBJ
    [ ] you posted some sort of religious crap that doesn't belong in this
        group
    [*] you mailed an article that was not funny, unoriginal and very
        boring
    [ ] your mother dresses you funny
    [ ] you are wrong
	
 To recant, you must

    [*] actually post an interesting article
    [ ] give up all your worldly possessions and become a Tibetan monk
    [ ] hang yourself by the big toe for 72 hours
    [ ] abstain from sex for a month (shouldn't be too hard for you)
    [ ] shave your head, paint a target on it, and go to Iraq
    [ ] give your MP (Congressman in U.S.A., I guess) a donation of three
        hemp plants to decorate his office
    [ ] become politically correct and demand that manholes be renamed to
        peroffspringopenings
    [ ] cut your balls (or breasts, if you're a woman) off 
    [ ] _________________________________________________

Thank you for the time you have taken to read this, and please desist from
the offending behaviour that led to this flame.

_____________________________________________________________________________

				END FLAME
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:33071 soc.culture.usa:7637
From: haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: FBI-seized cars ---- worth buying ?
Date: 6 Oct 1992 05:16:52 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes.ucsc.edu
Keywords: Sale, Used cars, FBI, US.


In article <1992Oct5.014615.21375@usl.edu> sgs@ucs.usl.edu (Sudhindranath SG) writes:
>Hi, 
>
>I have come across ads here in which the advertiser offers to
>sell "FBI/US seized cars" at very low prices (sometimes
>starting at $ 25 (yes, $ 25 !)). I am sure at least some

Usually what is offered in ads like that is information on how to bid on
seized cars and other property at government sales.  The same information
is available free from the General Services Administration.
-- 
haynes@cats.ucsc.edu
haynes@cats.bitnet

"Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an Art."
        Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle
From: shrirang@Autodesk.COM (Shrirang Moghe)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Job in UK
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:18:28 GMT
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA


Fellow Netters,

Can some one tell me what is involved in getting a work permit
to work in UK ?

The company that might employ me does not know and neither do I.

Some of my questions:

(1) How does one get a work permit
(2) How long does it take 
(3) What papers need to be presented and where ?

Btw, I am a resident of US, will that help in hastening the 
process ?

Thanx for your time and help.

Shrirang