From: wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Patrick Chester)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Gundam 0083
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:24:26 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

SIGH. Do I really want to jump in and continue this flamewar? 

Sure I do! :)

In article <BvrBDs.Fqp@ecf.toronto.edu> linmo@ecf.toronto.edu (LIN MONTEIL) writes:
->Well, first of all, Char didn't care one way or the other about the
->inhabitants of Earth.  His goal was the absolute destuction of the
->Federation government.  The purpose of droping Axis on the Earth is to
->cause a nuclear winter.  Remember, he was putting nuclear material in
->Axis to increase the contamination.  He would not have destroided the
->Earth, just made it uninhabitable.  
-
-That is a matter of opinion Mister. Gee I wonder what kind of missiles the
-Feds were using in the attempt to destroy Axis? was it gunpowder? Get real
If you mean the Lond Bell force in CCA, the nukes they had were obtained 
through er, unconventional means (Cameron Bloom smuggled 15 "museum piece"
nuclear warheads to Brite, knowing he might be prosecuted if they won.)
Also, Char intended to use his warheads to spread radioactive debris around
the globe to assist in sterilizing Earth. The Feds were trying to blow apart
Axis before it hit the atmosphere. After all, would you use gunpowder to 
destroy a multi-gigaton hunk of rock falling towards the only habitable
world in the Solar System? I wouldn't. Nukes detonated in space would not
contaminate the Earth as much as detonating them on the planet, if space-
detonated nukes would contaminate the Earth at all. (Maybe some debris would
reach Earth, maybe not.)

Also, was the Lond Bell Force a regular Fed unit or a semi-autonomous unit?
I got the impression that they had a semi-autonomous freedom of action since
they were engaging the Neo-Jion forces before the regular Fed military was
fully mobilized or even before the Federation declared war. At least that
was the impression I got when I read through the script for CCA. Just 
wondering.
->According to the book MS Era, page 8, in U.C. 0050, there were still 2
->billion people on the Earth.  At about this time, (correct me here, Mr.
->Kim) the emmigration from the Earth ended.  I can't concieve of
->evacuating 2 billion plus people off the Earth before the nuclear winter
->reaches it's fullest.  I don't think it would be possible.
Nope. Not a chance. Especially if you consider that a lot of launch facilities
might be destroyed by debris/tidal waves/etc. from the impact. I figure that
Axis was aimed for an ocean since ocean would be easier to hit and the effects
would vaporize millions of tons of water and wrap the planet in clouds, freezing
it like a similar occurence did 65 million yrs ago. Yes, I also read _Footfall_
by Niven and Pournelle. So Char would be effectively sentencing all those
people to death. I like the ideals of Jion, but can't accept such means of
achieving that philosophy. Sorry, guess I'm too squeamish.
-
-This is the first time somebody is using a Gundam book in their argument. Bravo!I respect your valiant attempt. But you should believe everything in M.S Era
-since it only goes up to 0080. The timeline in the E.B is more informative.
Even so, Earths pop. had to be in at least the tens of millions. My argument 
above still holds.
-You can't be serious!!! He literally jumped on Char the first time he saw
-him in Sweetwater and you're telling me he doesn't hate Char??? Anyways send
-me E-mail, I would be happy to debate the point with you.u
-u
I thought that he went too far also. But then, so did Char when he came up
with that crazy idea of freezing the Earth.

I thought the Feds' major problem was that it was too hopelessly bureaucratic
and not the dictatorship you keep decrying. Of course, a huge bureaucracy can
be damned restrictive in its own right.


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Politically Incorrect      |"The meek shall inherit the earth. The rest of us
Future Lunar Colonist      |  are going to the stars." Anonymous
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