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From: lkoop@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU (LaMonte Koop)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Quick A3000 question
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:00:45 GMT
Reply-To: lkoop@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Organization: SCS GP/Engineering Cluster

In article <1bkpefINNhv2@agate.berkeley.edu>, ghorm@shuksan.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Douglas Ghormley) writes:
>Is the bus 16 or 32 bits wide?

    The motherboard bus is treated as a 32-bit port by the CPU, including
CHIP RAM.  However, the custom chips act upon CHIP RAM as if it was a 16-bit
ported resource.  (The CPU acts on CHIP RAM as a 32-bit port due to some
bit of ju-ju with Gary).  End line: As far as the CPU and components outside
the custom chips are concerned the system RAM is a 32-bit ported resource.

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From: boing@mcl.ucsb.edu (Geff Hanoian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Prac. Periph. Modem and CTS/RTS
Summary: ARGH!!!!!!
Keywords: RTS/CTS
Date: 11 Oct 92 05:35:35 GMT


	HELP!!!!!!  I haven't gotta clue what this means.  I've just
	purchased a 14.4k Prac. Periph. modem and it's telling me 
	that my amiga doesn't have CTS/RTS.  I think?  Here's the
	man page from the manual on the test sequence:

	AT&T19 determines that RS232C modem cable supports the RTS and
	CTS hardware handshake signals.  If so, the modem responds with
	an "OK", otherwise, it repsonds with an "ERROR".  This test 
	self-terminates.


	Does this mean that my cable sucks just like it says or is
	that a misprint???  Or does my amiga not have RTS/CTS.
	It's a B2000.  ANYONE !!!! HELP!!!!!  I'm clueless about this
	handshaking stuff.  Speaking of hands shaking mine are pretty
	much jammin'.  ANother question!  Could I have blown an
	8520???  Whatever that is????


	signed hopelessly clueless

	boing

	BTW - mine responds with "ERROR" or I wouldn't be this concerned.
	I have an Amiga 2000 (rev 6.3), with GVP II FASTROM controller
	with a 52 meg. quantum and 8 megs. of 80 ns fast, if that helps???

	thanx in advance 

	boing
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From: cbenson@cs.strath.ac.uk (Calum F Benson CS90)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: THANKS to all those who helped in my quest for a printer ...
Date: 15 Oct 92 11:44:26 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.


	Just a quick note to say thanks to everybody who responded to
my plea a month or so back in my search for a printer for my Amiga 500+. 
I got around a dozen replies, and not surprisingly everybody had their
own favourite printer. The HP DeskJet came out more or less top, with
the Star and Epson 24-pins close behind. However, sandwiched in between
was the Canon BubbleJet range, and I've eventually gone for a BJ-20,
for several reasons:


	-  High quality printouts
	-  Reasonable running costs (ink cartridge = 700000 chars = #17.95)
	-  Quiet
	-  7 LQ fonts, plus any Amiga (bitmap) font can be downloaded
	-  Purpose-written printer driver, soon to be further upgraded
	-  It's about the only printer that fits my desk !

	So, thanks again everybody.

		Calum.


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From: bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R. Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A4000 graphics
Date: 12 Oct 1992 21:10:31 GMT
Organization: Electrical Engineering Dept. University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.2.33

In article <1992Oct12.095359.15985@ifi.uio.no> nilsco@ifi.uio.no (Nils Liaaen Corneliusen) writes:
>Yep, and that is what I want to avoid. It is still a fact, though.
>The dblpal/ntsc
>does not support full overscan and would be useless in some cases. I
>want all modes
>flickerfree on the 4000, and that is not possible now it seems.

Methinks you've had too much wacky-weed.  DblPAL and DblNTSC both have
overscan capabilities.  AGA will do everything that the Amber chip did
and MORE.  Amber could only handle 12-bit color information, and AGA
will handle 24.

Greg

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From: mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A4000 anim speed
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:49:44 GMT
Reply-To: mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA
Keywords: fps animation

pwappy@well.sf.ca.us (Jeff Walkup) writes:
>
>Michael Sinz said:
>
>> The A4000 can do animations *very* quickly.  In fact,
>> the new function calls in Release 3 can do animation
>> at well over 2000 frames per second *not counting*
>> the time it takes to render the frame.
>
>OK, but *counting* the time it takes to render the frame,
>how fast can it go?  I mean, it surely can't do the
>1.48 Gigabytes/sec required to update every pixel on a
>Superhires-Interlaced-Overscan 8-bit screen at 2000fps??
>
>I'd like to see some real-world numbers please.  Something
>like a 768x482x8 anim with very high Deltas.  "Very high"
>means something close to the 370K maximum (izzat right?)
>Nearly every pixel changing on every frame, anyway...

Well, I have a hard time with that.  My ray tracing software
takes over 10 minutes per frame.  However, an animation program
I wrote can update the display well over 170fps if the display was
that fast.  It all depends on what you are doing.  If you are
just pumping data, it would be that the 68040 can pump as much as
6+ meg/second into CHIP RAM.  (I have not played with exact
measurements here as I have not needed this)

>> Also note that *movies* are only 24fps...)
>
>Yes, but most projectors have a secondary "shutter" that
>effectively doubles that to 48fps, some even quadruple it
>to 96fps.  You still get the same number of *unique*
>frames/sec, but the result is much less flicker.
>Just so you know! ;^)

So?  If I run an animation back at 15fps or 30fps on the Amiga
I get multiple refreshes on the display.  That "secondary"
shutter is like asking for a faster vertical scan rate (such as
going to 72hz or something like that)  So, there are two
different things:  Flicker due to poor animation and flicker due
to slow refresh rates.

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From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Wanted: Info on hardware PAL/NTSC switch for Rev5 A500.
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:28:59 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <jgeorge.0ap9@amiganet.chi.il.us> jgeorge@amiganet.chi.il.us (John George) writes:
> I'm looking for info on how to add a hardware PAL/NTSC switch on a Revision 5
> A500 motherboard.  I know how to do it on a Rev 6 board... JP4 does the trick.
> But there is no JP4 on a Rev 5 board!!  Any help would be appreciated.

The problem is that the PAL/_NTSC pin on the original Fat Agnus chip was
defined as a "test mode" pin, which is always grounded for in-system
operation.  As a result, the Rev 5 PCB has this pin (41)of the PLCC socket
firmly soldered to solid ground plane.

Assuming you've have an ECS Agnus chip, you need to do some surgery to
keep the pin from making contact with the socket - if you want to do
this with the least damage, solder a piece of wire-wrap or other very
fine wire to the top of the pin and file off any bumps, then use a
sliver of Scotch magic tape to insulate the pin.  Of course you can
also nip off the socket contact or the pin on the chip, but these tend
to be irreversible.

Electrically speaking, ground the pin for NTSC, leave floating or pull up
to +5 for PAL.  Void your warrenty either way, of course  8-)

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From: Marcus.Mroczkowski@p5.f509.n635.z3.fidonet.org (Marcus Mroczkowski)
Sender: acsnet@csource.oz.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Spirit IN1000 Clock
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 09:39:06 +1000

To: All

 BC> From: rsc@hao.ucar.edu (Bob Campbell)
 BC> Organization: High Altitude Observatory/NCAR, Boulder CO

 BC> Yes, I have the exact same problem. (In1000 clock 1 day off)  I seem
 BC> to remember a patch for the readclock program, but I may be thinking
 BC> of the Insider board, which had the same problem (?).  Every once in a
 BC> while I look for it, but I can't seem to find one.  Have you checked
 BC> teh Fish disks? -- 

Since my last post on this subject I found the Setclock
program for the Spirit In1000 board on the Fish Disks.
All it is, is a program that behaves like the AmigaDos
SetClock program (Setclock load and Setclock save). It
does not fix the leap day BUG.


HRFNMPM

Marcus Mroczkowski.
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From: Boinger@myamy.hacktic.nl (Paul Kolenbrander)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A4000 graphics
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:59:48 MET
Reply-To: boinger@myamy.hacktic.nl (Paul Kolenbrander)
Distribution: world
Organization: System Information 2.0 Development
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <Bw4A6D.961@lysator.liu.se> boberg@lysator.liu.se (Stefan Boberg) writes:
> nilsco@ifi.uio.no (Nils Liaaen Corneliusen) writes:
> >Yep, and that is what I want to avoid. It is still a fact, though. The 
> >dblpal/ntsc does not support full overscan and would be useless in some 
> >cases. 
> 
>   "Useless"? Can you tell me in what way these modes are "useless"? Because
> you lose 48 pixels horizontally? What applications *require* that you have a
> 724*564 screen rather than a 776*564 ? I know of none.

Neither do I. And I've been looking at a DblPAL screen since the 14th. :-)
Ok, I needed to change some defaults as I really used max overscan on my
A2500. But do I miss 'em. Not really. :-) The best way to get people to
buy an A4000 is to let 'em play with it for a while. Which happened to me
two weeks ago. As soon as I sold my A2500, I ordered me an A4000. Sofar
the only disadvantage of the machine is that the amount of visitors has
increased by a factor of 10. :-) And all wnating to see Amy... 

> >I want all modes flickerfree on the 4000, and that is not possible now it 
> >seems.
>  You can't always get exactly what you want ...

Oh yes. I got me an A4000. Which was what I always wanted. :-)

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>   Yergh! Assembler - I hate it! :-)

C rulez. :-)

> Stefan Boberg - AP & EE student at Linkoping Institute of Technology, Sweden
>     UUCP:  {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmehq!cbmswe!team17!boberg

CYa, Paul

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From: khuynh@triton.unm.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Can you connect 2 Amigas via their SCSI ports?
Date: 9 Oct 92 04:49:50 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Oct8.184821.4778@ncar.ucar.edu> rsc@hao.ucar.edu (Bob Campbell) writes:
>My Xetec controller manual implies that you can (it has a little diagram
>showing such a connection).  However, the context is that you can connect machines to the same drives: ie, you've got two amigas, one with one drive,
>the other with two; connect them all together and on each machine you've got 
>three drives.  I don't know how well it work if you want to, say, make a
>multiplayer game, send data to each machine over the SCSI "net".
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Why would someone want to do that ?  Wouldn't it be alot easier to use
PARNET via the parallel port.  All you need to do is get a DB25-DB25
cable and do some minor adjustment of the cable (I believe you need to
link two of the pins together...Can't remember which two) and then connect
them to the parallel port of the two AMIGAs.  There is a public domain
parnet software that allow Harddrive access, and serial device, etc.
to be utilized by both Amigas.   Excellent for debugging programs, games
maybe ?

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From: agb16@mbuc.bio.cam.ac.uk (Alan Baxter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: CDTV hardware & Commodore UK
Date: 8 Oct 92 07:19:19 GMT
Organization: U. of Cambridge, England

>t CBM UK they have obviously set out to kill the Amiga for 
>good. I can imagine any number of corporate, government or  
>industrial Amiga users being told to contact Dixons. No     
>wonder these people order IBM-PC's.

It doesn't take much to solve this problem really. Just ring up 
and SAY you are from Dixons and you have a tech question. It
worked for me in Australia (in fact I was amazed at how nice the
tech guy was to the apparent complete moron who had someone elses
machine open at the time).

Regards Alan
From: copes@cs.curtin.edu.au (Simon Cope)
Subject: Re: Avoid the Amiga 4000 (NOT!)
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 03:25:13 GMT

keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider) writes:

>>viedo enhancer... What I saw was clean crisp 256 color Ham displays, one on
>>Its fast, powerful, incredible with display (i didnt hear him even mention
>>anything about the 256 THOUSAND colors from a 16 MILLION color pallette
>>with the new HAM mode... nor did he say anything about the 68040...

>Hmmm.. you must have seen a different A4000 than I did.  The one I used had
>many annoying flickers and shimmerings to the video quality.  Only a few of 
>the modes were usable, unless you could tolerate some flicker or shimmer.
>The "shimmer" seemed to result from hig-color modes.  Maybe this was
>just a function of the monitor (1960), but who knows.  The displays I saw
>weren't all that crisp.

The flicker was probably on the interlaced displays (Euro/Super72, Superhires),
the shimmer was more than likely caused by the abundance of jumbled cables 
behind the machines at the show....presuming that's where you saw it.  The
monitor might not have been adjusted properly as well, which could account for
the uncrisp displays.

SuperHires still seems intended for video work, hence its still interlaced and
the really weird resolution.  Most people will only have a 14" 1960 or a
monitor like it, so will be using DblPAL/NTSC or Productivity mode.

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From: Boinger@myamy.hacktic.nl (Paul Kolenbrander)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: I want 736x554 NO-Interlace
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:59:56 MET
Reply-To: boinger@myamy.hacktic.nl (Paul Kolenbrander)
Distribution: world
Organization: System Information 2.0 Development
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1BC216D8TA@tron.gun.de> ludwig@tron.gun.de (Ludwig Kamphenkel) writes:
> Yo!!
> 
>  This question is mainly to the C= developers. I just got my A4000 and I am
> allready mad, because there is still interlace. Is C= going to comme out
> with a flickerfixer (displayenhancer) for the A4000 in about 2 weeks or
> so?? I had a 736x554 workbench on my A500+ thanks to a flickerfixer but now
> I am back to interlace :(I do not want an answer like: 'user the Double Pal
> screenmode' because I am using it. Works great exept that most programs
> with open an own screen are using interlace. This is particular annoying
> when using PageStream.

Go into your preferences drawer and check the ScreenMode editor. There's a
little flag you can set that will give those proggies DBl screens. It works
for PageStream, Imagine and Scala. It does not seem to work for DPaint-IV. 
Nor was I able to test it with other programs. Although if programming was
done according to guidelines, there should not be to big a problem. :-)

CYa, Paul

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From: Tony-Preston@cup.portal.com (ANTHONY FRANCIS PRESTON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: max partition size (1.3 and/or 2.04)?
Date: Thu,  8 Oct 92 08:02:16 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Oct8.014503.22452@rtsg.mot.com>

Well, (1556*7*42/2048) = 223.37 MBs not 340.  If that is what you
bought, I suggest that you might ask whoever sold it to you, it
looks like a smaller drive than 340 Mbs.  
 
Actually, you setup looks ok.
From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Re: A4000/Alice
Date: 13 Oct 92 07:27:01 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <35810@cbmvax.commodore.com> daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:
>In article <1992Oct7.154649.23231@zip.eecs.umich.edu> dburnett@emunix.emich.edu (Don Burnett) writes:
>
>>Also, what are those six or so PINS sticking out of the motherboard near the 
>>custom chips.. 
>
>As explained here before, those are jumpers that can be read through the Lisa
>chip.  The first two, which you don't see, are used by the OS to sense the
>type of bus that this particular AA system implements (in this case, Fast 
>32-bit).  Functions have not been assigned to the remaining six bits.

Hmm, do you say with this that these are unoccupied, *working* input pins?
There are many occasions that some hardware desperately needs one more
input (or output) bit. Can you today read with some software the setting
of these pins? And when they are real *pins*, it would be clean hardware-
wise to just connect a little cable with a decent plug to them, not needing
any soldering.

And, are they strict Input? Or could they also be used for output? Just
imagine a watchdog hardware, where some external monoflop is triggered
by this pin (as long as everything works in the machine), but issues a
reset through a keyboard adapter (that goes between the keyboard plug and
its jack) when the system freezes. This would ne nice for indefinitely
running machines. Only think about the many stories about watching a
Guru meditation for days on some cable channel...

Ok, if it's not possible then please note again my wish for a watchdog
hardware in some future chipset or motherboard hardware. It should be
disabled at boot time and would need software to arm and feed it.
(This should already be in the suggestions database, as I issued an
ehancement request long ago about it.)

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From: boinger@myamy.hacktic.nl (Paul Kolenbrander)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A4000 graphics
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 14:23:30 MET
Distribution: world
Organization: PKS Computer Products.

barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:

>    As I have said, the real fundamental problem with the A4000 is that it 
> does not give you the freedom to choose just the right monitor that you get
> with an A3000.  I looked through a Computer Shopper last night, going through
> all of the ads that list monitors and their specs.  I could only find one
> multisync monitor that could sync down to 15Khz.  One ad listed 38 monitors
> and only one could sync to 15Khz -- and that was an EGA monitor, which could
> only sync to 15Khz.  Another ad listed 20 multisync monitors, and none could
> sync to 15Khz.  I am not saying that no other multsync monitors exist that ca
> sync to 15Khz, as I am sure they do.  But you will have a very difficult
> time finding them.  By comparison, with the A3000 you have the freedom of
> being able to choose between about a hundred times as many monitors to find
> the one that is just right for you.

Jeeez. you must be looking in the wrong ads then. I've called my local
distributor and asked for a price on a VGA monitor and a Multisync. he
came up with two CTX models. The CTX multi has no problems to sync down
to 15KHz and the price diference is only about $50,-. I've done some more
checking and found it easy to get other multisyncs that support 15KHz.
Also the CTX multi and VGA model have exactly the same specs and appearance.
Only the multi has some more knobs and connectors. It's the one I'm looking
at this minute. It works perfectly with an SVGA card on my PC and with or
without a flicker fixer on my Amiga. So please get your facts straight before
you start blabbing next time. :-)

>    If Commodore or a third-party company or an independent hacker can come up
> with a software-only utility which will allow you to use a VGA monitor on an
> A4000 with as few problems as you get when you use a VGA monitor with an
> A3000, then I promise to formally withdraw all of my comments about the A4000
> needing a display enhancer.

You should subscribe to rec.humor. You're such a funny guy...

> | Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu


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