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From: wessorh@teal.csn.org (Rick H. Wesson)
Newsgroups: bionet.plants
Subject: Request for jobs in plant identification
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:50:37 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4


 would like to know if there are any jobs dealing with plant identification
I would like to learn as much as I could, pay need only be enough for survival, Feild work a must. If any of you know of any programs where a college grad could be useful to someone in plant identification please drop me a note. 

many thanks,

-Rick
From: DUMENYO@Acd.Tusk.Edu
Newsgroups: bionet.plants
Subject: AGROBACTERIUM OVERGROWTH
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:22:12 GMT
Distribution: bionet
Organization: Tuskegee University

DEAR NETWORKER,

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH AGROBACTERIUM OVERGROWTH AFTER THE CO-CULTIVATION.

MOST OF THE ANTIBIOTICS I USE SEEM TO BE INEFFECTIVE IN CONTROLING THE 

BACTERIA. DOES ANYBODY OUT THERE HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS OF IMPROVED PROTOCOLS

OR ANTIBIOTICS TO EMPLOY IN KEEPING THE BACTERIA UNDER CONTROL? I 

WILL ALSO APPRECIATE NAMES OF SUGGESTED COMPANIES WHICH CARRY 

THESE CHEMICALS. PLEASE REPLY TO MY E-MAIL, FAX OR PHONE.  


                  				C. KORSI DUMENYO
				
					PHONE   205-727-8552
					FAX     205-727-8067
				E-MAIL IN%"DUMENYO@TUSK.EDU"	 
Newsgroups: bionet.plants
From: "tony hall" <tony.hall@canrem.com>
Subject: indoor pine tree - helppp
Reply-To: "tony hall" <tony.hall@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: bionet
Date: 25 Jan 93 23:08:40 EST



Is there anyone out there that can give me some help with, my pine tree.

It is the small now and indoors.  I don't have any idea, about how I
should take care of it.

Is there anyone with some information?



Thanks in Advance.



See Ya,
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: joanie@tigerrr.Eng.Sun.COM (Joan LeFevre)
Newsgroups: bionet.plants
Subject: need orchid help
Date: 27 Jan 93 23:21:15 GMT
Reply-To: joanie@tigerrr.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: tigerrr

I'm hoping someone out there can help me ...


I have a mini orchid plant (I've been told it's called a "Moth Orchid"), and I need
some info on caring for it.

The original shoot that bloomed last summer has long since dropped the flowers, and
at the end, new leaves have grown to look like a new plant. Is there a way I can 
cut the new plant off and root it, or something?

Any help is appreciated - I've really grown attached to the plant and would love
to start a new one!

Reply to joanie.lefevre@EBB.Eng.Sun.COM

Joanie  :-))
Newsgroups: bionet.plants
From: stovin@mackeson.demon.co.uk (Stovin Hayter)
Subject: Transgenic plant projects
Distribution: world
Organization: tK
Reply-To: stovin@mackeson.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:20:43 +0000

This is a reply to Toby Murcott, who asked a week or so ago for info about
the use of transgenic technology to create new plants. Horticulture Week
magazine, of which I am the editor, recently published an article about a
company called David Austin Roses which has commissioned research from a UK
university (I forget which since I don't have it in front of me) to create new,
commercially interesting rose varieties.
	And next week (Jan 29) we will publish an article about a company 
called Southern Glasshouse Crops Ltd, a big chrysanthemum cut flower producer,
which has been bought out by the Japanese brewing company Kirin for the 
express purpose of combining Kirin's biotechnology expertise with Southern
Glasshouse's plant breeding knowledge. Interesting things should come of this.
	If you want to know more, I can e-mail you the text of both articles.
They are a bit long to include here. I can even let you have phone numbers for 
the companies, if you're interested.
	More tenuously, I read somewhere some time ago, New Scientist I think, 
about an Australian company (I think) which has set out to create a black rose
(something of a bizarre holy grail for a lot of rose breeders, for some reason)
using transgenic technology.
	I for one would be very intersted in seeing  a summary of whatever you
manage to get out of this investigation. Good luck

Stovin Hayter
stovin@mackeson.demon.co.uk
Newsgroups: bionet.women-in-bio
Subject: Re: girls and K-12 science education
From: prevmary@otago.ac.nz
Date: 25 Jan 93 14:08:56 +1300
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

>>I have just participated in a study here at MIT concerning this topic.  It 
>>seems that the single biggest factor in our group was having encouraging 
>>parents.  None of the women in the study group (all of us were graduate 
>>students or Post-Docs in science) had parents who failed to ACTIVELY encourage 
>>the pursuit of science.
> 
My parents actively encouraged me and my siters and brothers to be interested
in science and arts as well. Actually to be interestred in the world was their
general principle.
My husband, a scientist also, was discouraged from going to university at all
and made his own way entirely.
> 
>>Many of us also had very encouraging teachers, but often as not there was an 
>>adversarial relationship with elementary school teachers.  The teachers tended 
>>to tell girls they couldn't do well in science and the parents encouraged the 
>>girls to "show them".
> 
My schooling was disastrous with regard to science and math and anything else
really. My parents taught us most of what we learnt at school age and it wasnt
much!1
> 
Im trying to encourage my daughter (9.5 yrs) to be interested in science 
but books win every time!
> 
> This raises another (I think important) point.  I am sure most of you 
> notice how much more verbal participation in seminars, group 
> discussions, etc. comes from the male scientists as compared to the 
> female scientists.  This in itself has got to have a dampening effect 
> on the progress of women in science; we need to put ourselves out on a 
> limb sometimes, and don't do it enough.  Is this something we were 
> taught in school?  Do other (female) readers feel that the above described 
> their schooling?

Actually Ive just given a talk at a seminar on women in science in New Zealand.
We just wanted to show it could be done even with children, though it can be
difficult at times.
> 
Talking of difficult, anyone got 2 positions to fill? One for a molecular
biologist interested in computational modelling and one for a cancer
epidemiologist who would rather be doing genetic epidemiology.
the other thread of employing spouses etc  got me thinking as my husband will
be out of a job in 3 months.

Mary JAne
>
From: N052FG@TAMVM1.TAMU.EDU (MARIVONNE RODRIGUEZ)
Newsgroups: bionet.women-in-bio
Subject: pc language
Date: 28 Jan 93 22:26:34 GMT
Distribution: bionet

By the way, I think s/he stinks! (IMHO) When I talked about a slash in my other
post I was alluding to he/she, which I think was the original usage in the post
by Erika that prompted me to start this whole mess! ;) I think s/he is just too
weird... As Ben Jones said, how DO you pronounce that? :/

I have never had a problem with the conjunction "or", though, as in "she or he"
;) I am willing to put up with a little choppiness in the flow here and there,
because it makes me very happy to see my gender included in things, for a chang
e, SCIENCE OF ALL THINGS!!! ;) Personal preference, of course.

Re: Ben Jones post

After paraphrasing my original statement to: "it will be a sad day when scienti
fic literature accomodates an authors "political" views over its duty to educat
ion and accuracy.", this was followed by agreeing that current usage is not ade
quate.  So should we continue to use "his, "he", in cases where a female person
 could be equally included in the context of what is being said because it read
s better than "he or  she"? That way the author's "political" views are not acc
omodated over what the primary goals should be... Should we continue this pract
ice until the scientific community agrees on what neuter usage it is going to a
bide by? Talk about drawing a line, huh? My point exactly.

And about the erradication of sexism:

I feel that the random usage of either pronoun is still sexist. I see the intro
duction of, for example, only the word "her" just as sexist as the usage of onl
y the word his and I, too, (as I believe Ben Jones stated) find myself having t
o stop and read back because it throws me off, though in some contexts it might
 work. Sexism can work both ways, and if one is wrong, then so is the other.

Neuter pronouns: (again, Re: Ben Jones post)

I think that feminists and chauvinists alike would dislike the usage of neuter
pronouns such as "it" because it makes them feel like objects rather than human
 beings, which is the connotation "it" usually has, although maybe the more rad
ical wings in both camps might dislike such usage  for obvious reasons in addit
ion to the object thing. I think it would certainly be a compromise, though, wh
ich is what it should be all about, that way neither sex gets preferential trea
tment while keeping with the desire to maintain good flow during reading. My na
tive language is Spanish, in which it works out perfectly because we have the p
ossessive pronoun "su" (pl.=sus), absolutely genderless. We actually do not hav
e an "it", though, so when the pronoun is the subject of the sentence, things c
an get a little messy from my perspective. ;)

My original anger stemmed from the referral to his/her political correctedness
as "crap", although the string has now taken an interesting and informative tur
n towards grammatical correctedness. It seems, though, that if there is one thi
ng we have agreed on so far is that the subjeect (be it PC or whatever you want
 to call it) is far from being "crap".

Marivonne Rodriguez
From: bioj294@EMORYU1.CC.EMORY.EDU (nika)
Newsgroups: bionet.women-in-bio
Subject: pc..flame
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:50:05 GMT
Distribution: bionet


	
	I must agree with Marivonne in that Erika's insensitive remark took
away from the context of her letter...must admit that when I read Erika's 
letter I was disappointed. She clearly misunderstands her position in today's
world and just how important it will be to remain aware that her success in
science or any other field will not only be dependant upon her acheivements but
also on the acheivements of women as a whole. I am fighting the urge to flame
at length...so I leave you with that.   M. Palacios 
		(sorry for the typos...typing too fast)
From: IAPROD573%A1%SSCCLU%MR@VAX003.STOCKTON.EDU ("Barbara Byrne")
Newsgroups: bionet.women-in-bio
Subject: Vacancies at Stockton State College
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:36:11 GMT
Distribution: bionet


Stockton State College in Pomona, NJ, has several tenure-track vacancies in 
science and math for next year:

BIOLOGY:  Teaching expertise in neuroscience, animal physiology, animal 
behavior;  will participate in introductory biology and general studies 
courses.  8-person department.

CHEMISTRY:  8-person department seeking individuals with spark, insight, and a 
commitment to undergraduate teaching to teach:
Biochemistry:  Teaching expertise in biochemistry lectures and labs;  student 
based research in modern biochemistry;  introductory chemistry lectures and 
labs as well as general studies courses.
Instrumental/experimental chemistry:  Teaching expertise in instrumental 
chemistry with an emphasis on environmental chemistry;  teach instrumental 
portion of Laboratory Methods, develop student based research, teach 
introductory chemistry lectures and labs as well as general studies courses.

ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES:  10-person Environmental Studies/Geology program seeks 
someone with scientific background appropriate to teach in some of the 
following areas:  ecosystem toxicology; air and water quality; environmental 
engineering; regulation and law; remediation; impact assessment.  Strong 
commitment to undergraduate education and research involving students.

MATHEMATICS:  Seek an excellent, versatile teacher to be part of a strong 
9-person mathematics program;  interest in applications of mathematics will be 
a plus.

Stockton is a young, liberal arts, undergraduate college located in the New 
Jersey Pine Barrens.  It is near Atlantic City and the Jersey shore, about an 
hour from Philadelphia, and about two hours from New York City.  Teaching 
excellence is strongly emphasized, and a productive research program, 
preferably involving students, is expected.  The college enrolls about 5000 
students.

Appointment will be at the Assistant Professor or Instrutor level.  Assistant 
Professor requires a Ph.D. and is strongly preferred;  Instructor requires ABD 
and active pusuit of the terminal degree.  Current salary range is 
$27,430-34,860, may be higher depending on qualifications, experience and 
increases in the NJ Higher Education Compensation Plan.  Screening begins 
February 22.  Send letter of application, resume, three letters of 
recommendation and evidence of completion or expected date of completion of 
Ph.D. to Dr. Barbara N. Byrne, Dean of Natural Sciences and Mathematics, 
Stockton State College, Pomona, NJ 08240.  Stockton is an AA/EOE.  Women and 
minorities are strongly encouraged to apply.


Newsgroups: bionet.women-in-bio
From: ejohnson@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Liz Johnson)
Subject: Re: PC language
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: bionet
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:37:36 GMT

In article <9301251910.AA16365@net.bio.net> MCCAINKW@DUVM.OCS.DREXEL.EDU (Kate) writes:
>
>There's no perfect solution. We need to find a middle ground between the
>perception that the issue is *crap* and the perception that gender-free
>language overrides all other considerations. Pounding on tables and heads
>may change the language in a journal article, but may have the opposite
>effect on perceptions. We all need to lighten up a little.

I agree. I'm just as uncomfortable with the flaming of the original
poster as I am with her characterization of the issue as crap. I'll be
the first to admit that the phrase "politically correct" makes me see
red because it's usually used to denigrate some principle that is
important to me.  Nevertheless, flames won't change things.

A question to those who believe that masculine pronouns are generic: how
many times do you see them used when referring to a traditionally
female profession such as secretary or nurse? I find that in these
cases, the feminine pronouns are used. That says to me that the use of
"he" in referring to other professions is not so generic, but instead
indicates that we tend to think of scientists, doctors, engineers as
male.  Doug Hofstadter, in his book Metamagical Themas, proposes that
one solution is to use the opposite pronoun from what one would expect
so that our mental images are given a shake.  I like that idea.

Liz Johnson
ejohnson@cs.indiana.edu
From: kristoff@NET.BIO.NET (David Kristofferson)
Newsgroups: bionet.women-in-bio
Subject: BIOSCI/bionet Frequently Asked Questions
Date: 28 Jan 93 10:00:02 GMT
Distribution: bionet


New users of BIOSCI/bionet may want to read the "Frequently Asked
Questions" or "FAQ" sheet for BIOSCI.  The FAQ provides details on how
to participate in these forums and is available for anonymous FTP from
net.bio.net [134.172.2.69] in pub/BIOSCI/biosci.FAQ.  It may also be
requested by sending e-mail to biosci@net.bio.net (use plain English
for your request).  The FAQ is also posted on the first of each month
to the newsgroup BIONEWS/bionet.announce immediately following the
posting of the BIOSCI information sheet.

				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

				kristoff@net.bio.net
From: PQQ@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: bionet.women-in-bio
Subject: Re: pc language
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:09:27 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

How can using a plural pronoun to refer to a singular noun
be correct?  This is really torture on the language and makes the
reader think that the author really has no command of what is
being written.  While I agree that using the male pronoun carries
some gender weight that might be misperceived, why not simply recast
a sentence that is problematic?  If our goal is to use accurate, gender
neutral (i.e., unbiased) writing, we should learn to write that way.
I say he and she have precise meanings and should not be used when
they refer to gender-neutral nouns (e.g., scientist).  Writing in this
way can be both grammatically and politically correct.  Writing that
requires abandoning the precision of the language isn't politically
incorrect, it's just sloppy.

Dick Pratt BITNET:pqq@psuvm  INTERNET: pqq@psuvm.psu.edu
7 Ferguson Bldg.
Penn State
University Park, PA  16802   814/865-6942
Newsgroups: bionet.women-in-bio
From: udita@MV3600.BMEN.TULANE.EDU
Newsgroups: bionet.women-in-bio
Subject: pc language
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:34:42 GMT
Reply-To: udita@MV3600.BMEN.TULANE.EDU
Organization: TULANE, BMEN, NEW ORLEANS, LA
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-17768]: mv3600.bmen.tulane.edu

I personally prefer using "they" and "their" even when referring to
people in the singular. Using "his/hers" or "s/he" is disconcerting and
interrupts the flow, or so it seems to me when I encounter such 
constructions. I read somewhere that originally using "they" and "their"
was acceptable use to refer to people in the singular before these words
started being used only in their plural sense (I could be wrong). anyway,
it makes for better writing for me and that is what I use.
Udita Taneja
From: LAURA@UCF1VM.BITNET (Laura Kittleson)
Newsgroups: bionet.women-in-bio
Subject: Re: pc language
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:57:19 GMT
 <93026.210927PQQ@psuvm.psu.edu>
Organization: University of Central Florida--Computer Services

I'm a technical writer who works with university computer users.
I alternate pronouns between "she" and "he" where singular usage is
most relevant to the context (never changing in mid-sentence).  I
use plurals when singular isn't necessary.  In documentation, I like
to use "you" when writing about an action to be taken.

When I taught technical writing, before "politically correct" was
a term or a trend, I tried to teach my students how to think about
their audience.  It was interesting to teach my young male engineers
to be how ridiculous they might feel when they write a resume cover
letter to "Dear Sir" and the head of the big firm they want a job
with is a woman.  Most of my students were reasonable people who
have learned that assumptions can be dangerous.

But we also discussed the fact that grammatical contortions to
avoid using any pronoun that indicates a gender are likely to
draw the reader's attention to the contortion more than the
gist of the sentence.  Not always, but maybe.

My $.02's worth.

--Laura Kittleson
laura@ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu
From: rons@hardy.u.washington.edu (Ronald Schoenberg)
Newsgroups: bionet.women-in-bio
Subject: Re: PC language
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:12:46 GMT
Distribution: bionet
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu

In article <9301251910.AA16365@net.bio.net> MCCAINKW@DUVM.OCS.DREXEL.EDU (Kate) writes:

[...elided material....]

set of expectations. For the "strong constructionist" of the force of
>language and implications of word choice, the answer is usually the
>rhetorically clumsy "his/her, " "s/he" or maintaining the specific noun
>as referent rather than substituting the pronoun.  All of these produce, as

It is much simpler to use "they" as 3rd personal singular.  It has the
advantage of having been accepted usage at one time (the 19th
century). I use it all the time in conversation and no one ever
notices.  People always notice things like "her/his", while "they" is
rarely notice so it puzzles me that "they" as a solution hardly ever
comes up.  
  In writing I make the sentences plural so I have no problem.

-- 
Ronald Schoenberg                    fax: 206-727-6521
University of Washington           email: rons@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: bionet.women-in-bio
From: N052FG@TAMVM1.TAMU.EDU (Marivonne Rodriguez)
Newsgroups: bionet.women-in-bio
Subject: PC his/her crap?
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:33:29 GMT
Distribution: bionet

(Re: Erika L. Jonietz message)

It is the subtle things in life that will never cease to amaze me...

In Erikas message about her formative years and what influenced her to go into
science, an interesting remark was made which took priority over all other
points alluded to in that message, and which showed a lack of interest in
taking the time to make *equal* gender distinctions a part of her life. This
*PC his/her crap* (direct quote from message) is something Erika states she
does not get into. I *have* to say something.

It takes one who can see the wrong in sexism, one who gives a damn about equali
ty to make a point of *getting into* this PC his/her *crap*. One does not go
around saying: Oh yeah, sure sexism is wrong! then turn around and condone its
practices. Learn that fact of life, and learn it quick, kiddo! It is obvious
that as a freshman in biology, you still have much to learn. I suggest you
waste no time and begin now. You choose to remain stagnant and not evolve with
the times and you will forever remain far behind, far, *far* behind. Forward
you will never go.

To many of us the erradication of sexism is not a fad, not light, funny or
cute. It is serious *crap*......


Marivonne Rodriguez