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From: diana@wetware.com (CatWoman )
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: dry food,distilled water
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:24:26 GMT
Organization: Castle WetWare MouseCatcher

whitman@watson.bms.com (Debra Whitman) writes:

] Can I ask why you give your cats distilled water as compared to city water?
] Also what brand of cat food do you consider 'good' that you use?

IAMS is a good food.  Almost anything you get at a 
pet-store is probably "good" if your cat doesn't
have any pre-existing problems.

I have a problem with FUS with all my cats.  Males
AND females.  I feed them any food that has
dl-methionine listed on the label, at the 
recommendation of my vet.  This includes Whiska's
EXPERT, usually found at chain-store supermarkets,
and Science Diet.  Friskies does not qualify, and
it is sold at pet-stores.

I have been feeding them exclusively on Science Diet
lately because the taste is the same for the S/D and
the C/D that the vet provides for FUS attacks, so they
don't have a problem switching between the varieties.

The reason for the distilled, or purified, water is
that magnesium, and other minerals, are present in
tap, spring and "drinking" water - which if not an
active cause of FUS will certainly add to the problems.
I discovered this problem when the youngest cat, who
was then under one year old, came down with FUS after
the other cats had started back to recovery - and the
only difference at the time in what they were eating
was that she was drinking water from the tap.

It DOES depend on where you live - my mom's water is
fairly pure, whereas mine will leave a mud residue,
but if there is any question at all, my advice is to
just be sure that one last possible source of magnesium
and whatnot is taken away.

Diana
From: nvonstein@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: calico
Date: 6 Jan 93 17:25:49 -0600
Distribution: usa
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <6JAN199315233878@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>, mpmarie@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (MARIE HUCOVSKY) writes:
> Is it true that calico cats are always female and never male?
> 
> Thanks
Male calicos are extremely rare and are sterile.  I have notes about this from
my biology class - I'm not sure if I kept them, but I will try to find them. 
It has to do with an extra X chromosome (as I recall it's the X).  

Nancy

> 
> Marie, Spike and Harry 
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From: davidl@flounder.ratsys.com (Dave Lane)
Subject: FIP?
Organization: Rational Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:52:00 GMT

Hello.  One of my cats recently tested positive for FIP.
Is there anyone else out there who has had experience with
this virus?  As I understand it, this virus usually kills
the cat within a month or two, but we've had our cat for
almost four months and since she's never gone outside, she
must have contracted the virus before we adopted her.

She's doing pretty well overall, except for occasional diarrhea.
Are there other viruses that might cause the same test (titer?) 
to come back positive?

Any info on FIP would be greatly appreciated -- I've already 
read the FAQ, and there seem to be gaps in the information 
there.  

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From: danr@grex.ann-arbor.mi.us (Dan Romanchik)
Subject: Re: Cats and TV
Organization: GREX Public Access Unix +1 313 761 3000
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:31:05 GMT

We don't let our cats watch TV.  :)

Dan
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From: npm@dale.cts.com (Nancy Milligan)
Subject: Re: help!!!
Organization: Titan Linkabit Corporation
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: rec.pets.cats
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:37:54 GMT

Susannah E Biles (sbiles@nmsu.edu) wrote:
> 
> Help kitty friends! I need a lot of advice and facts/figures.
> 
> As far as the facts and figures I wanted....well, he is of the idea
> that he can get diseases, or sick from a cat. Is this true? 

There are very few diseases that can be passed from cat to human.  And
as long as he isn't pregnant, he should be just fine.  :)  There are, though,
parasites like worms and fleas that can be passed.  Just keep the kitties
worm and flea free.

>Does
> anyone have any documented evidence on one side or the other? I don't
> mean deathly illnesses, he isn't that silly, but he doesn't want to
> even get a common cold from a cat. 

You can't catch a cold from a cat.  (Are you sure he's all that logical???)

You might want to just have him write down a list of his worries about
cats.  I'll bet you anything, whether he admits it or not, he's jealous
of them and the attention you give them.

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Titan Linkabit					cts!dale!npm
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From: sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu (   Wilde Dame)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cat static!
Date: 6 Jan 1993 12:43:38 -0800
Organization: Seattle University
NNTP-Posting-Host: sumax.seattleu.edu

In article <C0FC8y.CqD@news.iastate.edu> bron@iastate.edu (bronwyn) writes:
>Wilde Dame (sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu) wrote:
>> really bad, and that's the only time I do it.  You might feel silly
>> chasing your cat around with a sheet of Bounce (Hemingway thinks I'm
>> subjecting him to some weird torture by doing this), but she'll be
>> happier, I guarantee it. :)
>
>Please note that cats *do* wash themselves, and there *are* some 
>fabric softener sheets out there that would harm the little loveys if
>some of the nasty stuff got into their innards.  Might want to consult
>a vet about the active/inactive ingredients.

Yes, thanks, I'm quite aware that cats wash themselves, and that some
fabric softeners contain chemicals.  Few of them contain even remotely
toxic chemicals, which is a requirement for the very type of product that
they are.  I use Bounce unscented un-everythinged fabric sheets for myself
(and consequently on Hemingway) because of my own allergies, and I *did*
check with a vet about household products in general a few days ago
because Clio got sick--and specifically asked about fabric softener--and
was told that as long as I kept an eye on buying the least offensive, it
certainly was no more of a problem than the cat licking clothing which had
been washed in it (which happens all the time).
-- 
       Sheryl Stover  %  If you ask me what I have come to do in the world,
  & Hemingway & Clio  %  I who am an artist, I will reply: "I am here to
sstover@seattleu.edu  %  live aloud."                    -Emile Zola
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From: tcs@ll.mit.edu (Tom Sefranek)
Subject: Re: is it too cold?
Reply-To: tcs@ll.mit.edu (Tom Sefranek)
Organization: "Group	47"
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 15:35:03 GMT

My "Black" a barn kitty abut 15 years old has no aversion to going out in the
coldest weather here.  He has this thing about being Top Cat in the area, and
must guard his turf/keep the birds in check/rodents eaten/next door neighbor's
"Yellow" well played with...
He gets his Ice hairs, and full fur each year.  Now I'm not saying he stays out
for all that long, but he has stayed out all night with just our chimney for
some relief from the bitter cold.
Also, he is a cat! so he like to snooze on the basement steps where all the WARM
air is going by from the wood stove.  And when mother is not looking, sleeping
on the kitchen table in the sun.  (Mother is my wifes "other" name.)

Tom, owned by "Black"
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From: maxfield@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joan C. Maxfield)
Subject: BABIES!!!!
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:55:48 GMT

YEAHHH! I can post again!!

I just wanted to tell the world that Angelica had her kittens.
Three of them, and they are beautiful!
Two girls (all black, some white on belly & armpits.  Kay called them
bikini kittens) Practically twins.  I can't tell tham apart!
and a boy (definate jellicle, white mittens in front and white boots
in back, little white blaze on his nose, white all over his tummy.)
They were born on December 31, 1992 starting at 2am.  

Happy Birthday Babies!

Joan  (who will repost the phone # for Master Animal Care soon!)
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From: au500@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Linda Zinn)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: kneading
Date: 13 Jan 1993 00:35:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: au500@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Linda Zinn)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I've heard that cats knead because they have scent glands in their
paw pads and they're "marking" whatever they're kneading as *their* 
territory or property. Any truth to that?

As to the previous poster's question about breaking your cats of this
kneading behavior, good luck! I've never had a cat that didn't
have this tendency. Annoying, isn't it? :-) Once I got one of my cats
to "rub" my back this way, but he soon decided it was just a little
bit *too* uncat-like to bestow such pleasure on a mere human.
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From: emlee@sun.com (Edward M. Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Things my strange cat likes to eat!
Date: 10 Jan 93 00:39:43 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

My cat Felix eats roaches... that one fact alone endears him to my
father, who thinks that cats are wimps and real men have dogs.  (I
can't keep a dog in my apt. ;-P)
From: emilio@acupain.UUCP (Elizabeth Milio)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: RE: Cats and Whistling
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:11:06 GMT
Reply-To: emilio@accurate.com.UUCP
Organization: ACCURATE Information Systems, Eatontown, NJ

From Message-ID: <93004.172612SAS15@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: 4 Jan 93 22:26:12 GMT
writes:
>I happen to have a rather shrill whistle.  One day I was whistling along
>merrily when my cat Marti (female tabby) came up and started sniffing my
>I am wondering why Marti is doing this!  Is it that the sound hurts her ears

>Susan Stoner

Everyone is a *critic*  :-)

Sorry, Susan, I couldn't resist!!!  It has been a very long day, so I must
thank you for the laugh.  I love the picture of your cat going for your nose
to stop you!  She might also like it.  My two come running (as much as a cat
will run to answer your call) when I whistle for them -- and each one has
his or her (there are only 2) call.

Liz
owned by Allegro and Mimi
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From: npm@dale.cts.com (Nancy Milligan)
Subject: Re: Cats and whistling
Organization: Titan Linkabit Corporation
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:58:44 GMT

John Grabowski (zorro@picasso.ocis.temple.edu) wrote:
> Mine just looked up and me and seemed annoyed when I tried it, so I stopped.
> 
> John
> zorro@picasso.ocis.temple.edu
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Mine too.  He twists his ears around and glares at me.  He does the same
thing when I sing.  Sheesh!  Everyone's a critic!!! :>

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: linnco@microsoft.com (Linn Compton)
Subject: Re: calico
Date: 08 Jan 93 19:51:34 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Distribution: usa

In article <1993Jan7.181420.3798@zia.aoc.nrao.edu> rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu wrote:
 
> This may be an English naming convention; I got it from my dad, along with
> "loaf of bread position".
>
Gee, I always thought that was the "meatloaf position."
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes)
Subject: Re: Kitty Valium
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:44:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.171333.2640@mtu.edu> jclannom@mathlab.mtu.edu (Joe Lannom) writes:
>
>My cat just went into heat and someone here a work suggested I ask the Doc for some  
>tranqs, since I had already scheduled her surgery appointment for Friday.  (3 days!)  
>and then I get some peace and quiet!  (yeah, right.  She'll be back to dancing on my  
>face when I'm sleeping like normal)
> 
>Is this a good idea, or should I just sit back and wait it out?
> 
   
   (Push return after every 75 characters or so, rather than letting
   your lines wrap of their own accord)

   You can ask, but if you've scheduled her for surgery your
   vet probably won't want to give her anythiing that might 
   complicate a general anesthesia in a few days.

   Just wait it out.  (Actually there is something you can do
   with a rubber policeman, but it probably isn't worth the effort.)

   Wayne
From: jeffp@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (Jeff Parke;S10000)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Amputation
Date: 10 Jan 93 06:59:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1993Jan10.065948.9080
Organization: Washington State University

In article <93008.132436FHSKRS@BYUVM.BITNET> <FHSKRS@BYUVM.BITNET> writes:
>...  The vet thinks we need to take off the paw.  I find this
>quite distressing!  I know it's probably for the best, and since the
>crippled paw hasn't slowed her down, I doubt that losing it altogether
>probably won't either....

In fact, not dragging the crippled appendage around will probably speed
her up some.  Cats and dogs do amazing well with three limbs.
---------------------
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also:   jeffp@WSUVM1.bitnet   AOL: JeffParke
Washington State University College of Veterinary Medicine class of 1994
Pullman, WA  99164-7012
From: zari@ee.fit.edu (Kevin Zari)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: ear infection
Summary: anyone had this problem?
Date: 10 Jan 93 05:25:45 GMT
Organization: Florida Tech, CP/EE Dept.

My 8 month old female siamese went to the vet 3 months ago. The
vet found an ear infection (bacteral). After a week of drops, it
cleared up. A week later I noticed some excessive wax and fluid discharging
from her ears again. I was in NY (I live in FL) so I called up the vet
and asked him for the name of the medicine, so I could purchase
it in NY and apply it . I did that, but the discharge still persisted.
First thing I did when I came home to FL, was to take her to the vet.
He inspected the ears and found excessive wax and fluids. He took a sample
of the tissue and sent it to be cultured. The results came back negative.
The vet also noticed scar tissue on the walls of the ear canal and even 
on the ear drum. The only thing that the vet could tell me was that some
cats just produce more wax, and that I should keep after cleaning her ears
more often. My house in immaculate, and the cat never goes out. Anyone
ever had an experience like this happen? 

please email any responses and comments to  zari@ee.fit.edu 
because my server is usually down (23 hrs a day !)
.
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From: LJ01066@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: getting kittens -- advice sought
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 08:09:56 PST

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: fahn@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Paul Fahn)
Subject: getting kittens -- advice sought
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 01:07:54 GMT

My wife and I are planning to get two kittens soon, and we were wondering:
should we get littermates (siblings) or not? What are the advantages
and disadvantages?

Thanks,

Paul

Advantages: I have two cats slightly less than a year old.  It doesn't
matter if they are littermates really as lon as they are close to the
same age.  Littermates may make some difference but this is doubtfull.
Having two cats is a better option than one if you can since their lives
tend to be more fulfilled, especially when you don't have time to play
when they want to.  A pair of cats will be easier on your furniture too,
as they don't get as bored.  I have no problem with my cats not being
affectionate, other than the fact that cats are independant animals and
all are different.  One of my cats, called "creamy" does not like to be
held very much at all, the other, "snowy", likes it when you pick her up
and pet her. I prefer females best as they seem to be more docile and
in some cases more affectionate, though many males are very affectionate
also.

Disadvantage: Having two costs more than one.  Litter cleanup is a bigger
job, but I think people should use a scoopable cat litter wich is really
a lifesaver for cleanup and it's environmentally sound since it is made
of recycled plastic (AMAZING). Finally if you don't own a home it can be
dificult to find places that allow two, let alone one.

************************* HAPPY CAT HUNTING *****************************

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From: kkv@inel.gov (Jamie J Ferguson)
Subject: Re: The Sacred Halogen Torchiere
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Laboratory, Idaho Falls, Idaho
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 17:02:28 GMT

We have 2 of these lamps and our cats could care less.  However,
we do lock the lamps away when we go on vacation because the
cats tend to knock them over (only when we're gone for a week
or so).  

Jamie


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From: ac999257@umbc3.umbc.edu (ac999257)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Timing
Date: 7 Jan 1993 20:28:48 -0500
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
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Keywords: Heat, vet, hell.

In article <1993Jan7.182718.5108@oracle.us.oracle.com> schiles@us.oracle.com writes:
>
>Wasn't this topic addressed and answered a couple of days ago?  Some
>cats do; some cats don't.  

We don't all get the same postings at the same time. When I made my comment
on the posting about the guy who said his vet told him cats stay
in heat until they mate, no one else had responded. Also, people sometimes
respond to a note without finishing reading their un-read notes and
often make the same response that someone else has already made.
I'm guilty, I admit it. But I'm working on it.

Mary



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From: ramirez@julia.math.ucla.edu (Alice Ramirez)
Subject: The Sacred Halogen Torchiere
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 22:14:57 GMT

A poster described the cat's worshipful attitude toward a new halogen
torchiere and wondered.

Cats are a mystery. We are always grateful when someone's chance observation
illuminates some small, dark corner of the greater mystery.  Thanks to this
poster, we now know the outward aspect of at least one of their gods.

But what does this particular diety stand for, the one whose outward aspect
takes form as a halogen torchiere?  What ancient memory does its shape
spark in the feline brain? Does it stand for abundant sashimi?  Power
over all other species?  Domination over the earth taken form as a shape
embracing aspects of darkness and light?  Awakening recollections of the
goddest Bast?

Has this cat, this worshipper of the Sacred Halogen Torchiere, offered up
sacrifices to its god?  has the poster found small freshly killed rodents,
newly deceased parakeets, laid at the foot of this Sacred Image?
From: julie@eddie.jpl.nasa.gov (Julie Kangas)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cat freezing its little buns off in a 63F basement?
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:25:26 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA

In article <lkppm2INNf4p@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> assana@polkadot.Eng.Sun.COM (assana) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.160915.12791@math.ucla.edu> ramirez@julia.math.ucla.edu (Alice Ramirez) writes:
>>      >So don't you all agree that it is cruel and unusual punishment 
>>      >for my cats to have to spend the night in 63 degrees?
>>
>>Given the fur growing all over their bodies, I suspect they get quite
>>uncomfortable when it is too warm.  But I don't like the idea of banishing
>>them to the basement.  If you must, I'd give them a pillow to sleep on, 
>>some books to read and a blanket to crawl under in case your cats are more
>>hothouse than mine.   
>
>Although I agree with the theory that "cats must get how with that fur coat",
>I have seen them act differently. I've never seen a cat that does NOT like
>a warm spot (like the top of the fridge, or a running dryer)! As a matter 
>of fact, kit kat, a semi long-hair, with a TON of fur, would sit soooooo 
>close to the fireplace that the hear from the fire would move her fur all 
>over the place. I don't know how close she would have got had it not been 
>for the screen blocking her!

I collect rocks and knew a guy who took his cat with him.  His cat
was a large long-hair and would spend the days in the back of the
pickup (which had a shell).  One trip was to the desert and it
was at least 90 degrees.  We all wanted to see his cat again
but all he could do was show us the lump in the bottom of his
down sleeping bag.  That was one warm kitty.

I've known cats to get into warm places until they are uncomfortably
hot to the touch.

I think the question warm/cold depends on the cat and what it's
used to.  I don't think that a house cat that spends its days 
inside a warm house will not have grown enough fur to be suddenly 
placed in a cold area at night.  It could easily adapt, but I
think that would take being put in the basement during the
summer and fall so it could adapt to the seasons.

Julie
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