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From: avolio@TIS.COM (Frederick M Avolio)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: Changing icon graphics in motif?
Date: 16 Dec 92 13:40:25 GMT
Reply-To: avolio@TIS.COM
Organization: Trusted Information Systems, Inc.

The bitmap image is tied to the application by the window manager, so
setting the icon resource in the application (xterm) won't work.
Also, it is bound to the application by the resource name or
application program name.

The only way I know of to do what you want is to create a C program
that fires off what you want to do and link that program to different
names, depending on the program you wish to execute.

Fred
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix,comp.unix.misc
From: jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz)
Subject: Ultrix newfs/mkfs -- can't change number of inodes?!
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 05:00:20 GMT

I've been trying to make a filesystem with more inodes (my news partition
is chronically short of them), and can't figure out how to make it happen.
I'm running Ultrix 4.2a RISC on a DS3100 and using RZ57s.  'newfs' is
supposed to take "-i <bytes/inode", but no matter what I specify it always
creates the same number of inodes (4,096 in my experimental 16MB partition.)
I also tried using mkfs directly but no dice...

Is it me or is it broken?  Could someone lend me a clue, please?  ;-)
--
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Academic Systems Consultant  |     Bitnet: JBotz@mhc.bitnet
Mount Holyoke College        |      Voice: (US) 413-538-2375 (daytime)
South Hadley, MA, USA        | Snail Mail: J. Botz, 01075-0629

Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: rick@qucdnee.ee.queensu.ca
Subject: Re: ultrix 4.2: chgrp/chown problems on an NFS client
Organization: Queen's University EE Department
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 05:52:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.214333.10974@ennews.eas.asu.edu>, scowen@wfpc3.la.asu.edu (Paul A. Scowen) writes:
> 
> Isn't this due to the two userid's being different on the two machines - and I
> don't mean the login names but the numerical id's.  Since then the user rick
> is not the same user on both machines, the local one and the host that has the
> NFS disk physically mounted.  Or am I missing the point?

i guess i wasn't explicit: the clients are getting password/uid/gid 
information from the server as well as files (we're using Hesiod). the 
userids are the same.

i've got some mail suggesting that i should examine exporting the 
filesystems with root access; i haven't checked this yet but i 
certainly hope this isn't the solution. (we don't export filesystems on 
our Suns with r=0 access and this problem isn't present there...).

rp
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Rick Pim                                            bitnet:rick@qucdnee
Department of Electrical Engineering         rick@qucdnee.ee.queensu.ca
Queen's University, Kingston                             (613) 545-6772
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
"Love is like pork rinds. At first, it seems disgusting. Then, you try it,
 and it seems okay. Then you find out what goes into it, and you realize
 that you were right the first time. Except love isn't crunchy."
                    -- Pete Granger
From: alan@nabeth.enet.dec.com (Alan Rollow - Alan's Home for Wayward Tumbleweeds.)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: Swap area on Dec5000
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:46:03 GMT
Reply-To: alan@nabeth.enet.dec.com (Alan Rollow - Alan's Home for Wayward Tumbleweeds.)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <16DEC199221211918@csa1.lbl.gov>, tonse@csa1.lbl.gov (Shaheen R Tonse (510)-486-6349) writes:
>
> [ Example partition tables deleted... ]
>
>A colleague tells me that it is useless to just make new b partitions and 
>expect the system to know that they are available for swap area, unless one 
>somehow re-compiles this information into the kernel. Is this true, and if so, 
>is it "easy" to do?

It is both true and easy to do.  Find the config line in the kernel
configuration file (/sys/conf/mips/YOURHOSTNAME).  Observe the "swap on ..."
part of the line.  This is what you modify to add new page/swap devices.
For example, if I want to add rz8b and rz16b:

config vmunix root on rz0b swap on rz0b and rz8b and rz16b dumps on rz0b

Then use "doconfig -c YOURHOSTNAME" to build the new kernel.  It will
say where the new kernel is when done.  Save the old one somewhere and
copy the new to /vmunix and reboot.  Then add lines to /etc/fstab to
let swapon(8) know that it can use those devices.  Such lines would
look like:

	/dev/rz8b::sw:0:0:ufs::
	/dev/rz16b::sw:0:0:ufs::

P.S.  Recently, in answer to another page/swap space question, I had
      wondered at what would happen if the devices were different
      sizes.  Earlier this week, I found it out; it uses the smallest
      size as the limit on the size of all the members.  I haven't
      yet checked to see if the extra space, shows up as "wasted".
 
>				Regards, S.Tonse.
>
--
Alan Rollow				alan@nabeth.cxo.dec.com
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: osyjm@cs.montana.edu (Jaye Mathisen)
Subject:  Replacements for sun pixrect/rasterfile stuff for Ultrix?
Organization: CS
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:10:40 GMT



I have some code that has just a hint of sun pixrect and rasterfile.h
junk in it.  Has anybody seen/written/heard of compatible drop-in replacements
for these that would make this code compile under Ultrix 4.3?

I haven't installed xview yet, is this kind of stuff in there?

Specifically, I need:

cpp: error lecture4.c:32: Can't find include file pixrect/pixrect.h
cpp: error lecture4.c:33: Can't find include file pixrect/pr_io.h
cpp: error lecture4.c:34: Can't find include file pixrect/memvar.h

and a 'rasterfile.h'. 
-- 
 Jaye Mathisen, COE Systems Manager                (406) 994-4780
 410 Roberts Hall,Dept. of Computer Science
 Montana State University,Bozeman MT 59717	osyjm@cs.montana.edu
From: mbeattie@black.ox.ac.uk (Malcolm Beattie)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: Segmentation fault when listing all processes
Date: 18 Dec 92 11:55:57 GMT
Organization: Oxford University Computing Service, 13 Banbury Rd, Oxford, U
Originator: mbeattie@black

In article <1992Dec17.101316.10127@dcs.warwick.ac.uk> rince@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (James Bonfield) writes:
>In <1992Dec17.085159.7728@imec.be> elsen@imec.be (Marc  Elsen) writes:
>y
>
>> 
>>  - In VAX Ultrix 4.2 on a 3900 I sometimes (intermittent) get
>>  
>>    % ps aux
>>    Segmentation fault
>> 
>>   Has anyone seen this before ?
>
>I've seen the problem (and posted it here) before on A Dec5000/240 running
>Ultrix 4.2. It's possible to force the problem too. Imagine the following
>scenario:
>
>jkb@rutland[home3/jkb]& cat a.c
>main() {
>    vfork();
>    pause();
>}
>jkb@rutland[home3/jkb]& ps
>  PID TT STAT   TIME COMMAND
>[ fairly long process list ommited ]
>jkb@rutland[home3/jkb]& cc a.c
>jkb@rutland[home3/jkb]& ./a.out &
>[1] 13671
>jkb@rutland[home3/jkb]& ps
>  PID TT STAT   TIME COMMAND
>Segmentation fault
>jkb@rutland[home3/jkb]& kill %1
>[1]+  Terminated              ./a.out
>jkb@rutland[home3/jkb]& ps
>  PID TT STAT   TIME COMMAND
>[ working process list once more ]
>jkb@rutland[home3/jkb]& 
>
>	Unfortunately I do not know of any solution. The problem you have
>could easily be the same. If, intermittently, other users create processes of
>the same type, and you try to examine their processes using 'ps aux'. I'm not
>sure precisely which status the process is in that causes ps to die. There are
>other processes (eg pagedaemon) in disk wait (D).
>
>
>-- 
>James Bonfield (jkb@mrc-lmba.cam.ac.uk / rince@dcs.warwick.ac.uk)
>Medical Research Council Laboratory of Molecular Biology, Hills Road,
>Cambridge, CB2 2QH, England. Tel: 0223 402499   Fax: 0223 412282

Here's a problem with ps that I occasionally see on our
DEC 5500, Ultrix 4.2: an error message of the form

ps: cant read u for pid 12345 from /dev/drum

sometimes appears, seemingly while file system intensive
processes are running. Is this something that I should
worry about?

--Malcolm

-- 
Malcolm Beattie <mbeattie@black.ox.ac.uk> | I'm not a kernel hacker
Oxford University Computing Services      | I'm a kernel hacker's mate
13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN (U.K.)   | And I'm only hacking kernels
Tel: +44 865 273232 Fax: +44 865 273275   | 'Cos the kernel hacker's late
From: pcl@ox.ac.uk (Paul C Leyland)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: man wanted
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:11:48 GMT
Organization: Oxford University Computing Services, 13 Banbury Rd Oxford OX2
	6NN
In-reply-to: stan@sabaac.NoSubdomain.NoDomain's message of 14 Dec 92 15:13:04 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.151304.20151@bmw.mayo.edu> stan@sabaac.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Andrew Staniszewski) writes:

   I want the source files for man so I can add /usr/local/man to the defualt man
   search path.

   anyone know where I could get them??

Use the Perl version, like we do.  You should be able to find it at all good
archive sites (try asking archie) but in a pinch you could use anon-ftp
to black.ox.ac.uk (129.67.1.165) as /src/man.shar.Z

Not only does the Perl version give you full control of the man path,
it has a lot of extra goodies and runs markedly faster (on our
machine, your milage may vary).

If you're *really* stuck, I could mail it to you, but I don't want to
have to do that until you've tried the alternatives.

Paul
--
Paul Leyland <pcl@oxford.ac.uk>          | Hanging on in quiet desperation is
Oxford University Computing Service      |     the English way.
13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN, UK     | The time is come, the song is over.
Tel: +44-865-273200  Fax: +44-865-273275 | Thought I'd something more to say.
From: mogul@pa.dec.com (Jeffrey Mogul)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: Alpha AXP performance reports
Date: 16 Dec 1992 03:12:14 GMT
Organization: DEC Western Research
NNTP-Posting-Host: jove.pa.dec.com

In article <9212152227.AA01484@TIS.COM> mjr@TIS.COM writes:
>mogul@pa.dec.com (Jeffrey Mogul) writes:
>>[I realize that readers of this list are not likely to be thrilled
>>by OpenVMS benchmarks for Alpha ... but in many cases the performance
>>on these benchmarks are basically independent of the operating system,
>>so I thought these might be interesting to Ultrix users.]
>
>	The performance on the benchmarks is not independent of the
>operating system if the operating system doesn't yet support some
>reasonable kind of multiprocessing.

Yeah, well, "on a uniprocessor these benchmarks are basically
independent of the operating system."

>	When is OSF/1 from DEC going to support multiprocesing?

You probably know the answer to that just as well as I do (and you know
that you probably know the answer just as well as I do), and of course
neither one of us is supposed to talk in public about things that
we learned about unannounced future products while we were employed
by DEC. 

:-)

(At least, I think that it hasn't been announced; someone will no doubt
correct me if I'm wrong.) 

-Jeff
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: cannell@ed8200.ped.pto.ford.com (Larry Cannell)
Subject: Re: Need SET HOST/LAT equivalent for Ultrix
Organization: Ford Motor Co., Powertrain Electronics
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 17:49:02 GMT

Don Katz (dbk@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu) wrote:
: I would like to be able to connect to LAT terminal services from
: Ultrix, as VMS users can now do using SET HOST /LAT. Is there an
: equivalent utility on Ultrix? I am running Ultrix 4.2 on a Decstation
: 3100.

The set host/lat function isn't there.  You can get a little closer to it
by defining a dialout port on a terminal server, map a tty device to
it and then use Kermit.  Nothing there for using other lat services.

--
Larry Cannell (cannell@ed8200.ped.pto.ford.com)
Powertrain Electronics
Ford Motor Company
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (Stew Ellis)
Subject: Re: Whois(1) command.
Organization: GMI Engineering&Management Institute, Flint, MI
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:25:32 GMT

fingerhu@ircam.fr (Michel Fingerhut) writes:

>Przemek Klosowski writes:
>>Actually, you shouldn't bother installing this version of whois, as it
>>is broken (apparently since ultrix 4.0).

>Works fine for me.  Problem is, nic changed.  So if you set an alias
>	alias whois /usr/ucb/whois -h nic.ddn.mil
>it does the right thing.

I edited the nic entry in the binary using emacs.  Works right for all users.


--
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  Humanities & Social Science,  GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst.   /        / /  /  / /
  Flint, MI 48504      ellis@nova.gmi.edu              /________/ /  /  / /
From: rob@icarus.ssd.loral.com (Rob Riepel)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: unix version of VMS EDT??
Date: 13 Dec 92 03:59:11 GMT
	<Bz64Lp.ICq@accelr8.com>
Organization: Space Systems/Loral

In article <Bz64Lp.ICq@accelr8.com> jim@accelr8.com (Jim Reiss) writes:

>>>     Does anyone know of a unix version of the VMS editor EDT. I am working
>>>     on a project which involves typical VMS users working in a unix/X windows
>>>     environment. .....
>>
>>   (this should be in the FAQ if it aint so already)
>>   
>>    contact:  Boston Business Computing,  Andover, Ma.
>Or:
>Accelr8 Technology Corporation
>303 East 17th Ave., Suite 108
>Denver, CO 80203
>(303)863-8088

or: use emacs with any of a number of EDT emulations.  here's the blurb
    on the one I hacked together.

..rob

       **  TPU-edt -- emacs emulating TPU emulating EDT  **

    TPU-edt features the following TPU/edt functionality:

     .  EDT keypad
     .  Repeat counts
     .  Learn sequences
     .  Multiple windows and buffers
     .  On-line help
     .  TPU line-mode REPLACE command
     .  Rectangular cut and paste
     .  Wild card search and substitution
     .  Configurable through an initialization file

    TPU-edt works on any VT-series compatible terminal or emulator, is
    easy to install and use, and even  comes with an UNDO function not
    available in TPU.  Try  TPU-edt today.  We think you'll agree that
    it does a lot better TPU/edt emulation than vi does!

    Please note that TPU-edt does NOT emulate TPU.   It emulates TPU's
    EDT emulation.  Very few TPU line-mode commands are supported.

    TPU-edt  is  available  from  the elisp  archives.  They  are  are
    accessible via anonymous ftp from

        archive.cis.ohio-state.edu:pub/gnu/emacs/elisp-archive

    TPU-edt is in the modes subdirectory with the name tpu-edt.tar.Z.
From: siegel-micah@cs.yale.edu (Micah Siegel)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: SETUID scripts for DECstation running Ultrix V4.2A
Date: 11 Dec 1992 18:51:37 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
NNTP-Posting-Host: zoo-gw.cs.yale.edu

Hello Folks,

We are trying to setup a setuid script on our DECstation 5000/200
running Ultrix V4.2A.  We are having troubles because the (executable)
script doesn't pass root authority even with root ownership and root
group.  Is there some reason this is difficult in Ultrix?  We'd
appreciate replies from anone who have encountered or overcome this
(or a similar) problem.  Please use email and we'll summarize if there
is sufficient interest.

Thanks for your help.

Micah Siegel
(siegel-micah@s.yale.edu)
Yale University


Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: an16@sol.acs.unt.edu (Blair Copeland)
Subject: Silicon Graphics IRIX R4.0.1 Restricting Telnet
Summary: Do not want root to telnet in, console access only.
Keywords: telnet
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:15:15 GMT

We are running a Silicon Graphics station on a Cabletron DNSMIM.
I would like to be able to keep root only accesible from the 
console.  I do not want anyone to be able to telnet to root, 
but I do want others to be able to telnet to their respective accounts.

Any suggestions.  

=====================================================================
Blair Copeland              |
Data Communications Analyst |
University of North Texas   |  copeland@cc1.unt.edu
=====================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix,comp.unix.misc
From: rob@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu (Robert K Shull)
Subject: Re: Ultrix newfs/mkfs -- can't change number of inodes?!
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:49:08 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz) writes:

>I've been trying to make a filesystem with more inodes (my news partition
>is chronically short of them), and can't figure out how to make it happen.
>I'm running Ultrix 4.2a RISC on a DS3100 and using RZ57s.  'newfs' is
>supposed to take "-i <bytes/inode", but no matter what I specify it always
>creates the same number of inodes (4,096 in my experimental 16MB partition.)
>I also tried using mkfs directly but no dice...

This is from memory, so...
I saw this same thing on our Encore Multimax. It appears that there is a
limit on the '-i' option. I believe we ended up reducing the number of
cylinders/group, which effectively increases the number of inodes.

	Robert
-- 
Robert K. Shull, Sr. Applications Programmer, Engineering Computer Network
rob@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu
Disclaimer: OU can't afford opinions, so these must be mine.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix,comp.sys.dec
From: jg@crl.dec.com (Jim Gettys)
Subject: Re: Bug in Xws/HX-card?
Organization: DEC Cambridge Research Lab
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 18:38:05 GMT

It is conceiveable it is a bug.

But arcs (and in fact wide lines in X) are defined poorly, and
sensible people avoid them.  The problem is that we stole the PostScript
round pen definition, and this turns out to both be ugly (lumpy) and computationally
painful, particularly at screen resolutions.  Afterwards we found out that
PostScript cheats (doesn't actually implement their specification as specified),
and it was before Hobby's work on polygonal pens, which give much more aesthetically
pleasing results.
				- Jim

-- 
Digital Equipment Corporation
Cambridge Research Laboratory
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: sfreed@lacerta.unm.edu (Steve Freed)
Subject: Re: showing physical memory size
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 05:58:41 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Dec9.135544.19654@datum.nyo.dec.com> frank@nyo.dec.com writes:
>
>Here's one way:
>
>$ /etc/uerf -r 300 -R | head -20 | grep 'real'
>                                        real mem = 50331648

This works if you have re-booted the machine in the past few months. Before
I got sysinfo, I used to do it this way:

% dd if=/dev/mem of=/dev/null bs=1000k
32+0 records in
32+0 records out

Sysinfo is a whole lot nicer:

% sysinfo

        GENERAL INFORMATION

Host Name           : lacerta.unm.edu
Host Aliases        : lacerta
Host Address(es)    : 129.24.14.70
Host ID             : 00000000
Serial Number       :
Manufacturer        : DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation)
System Model        : DECsystem-5000/100
Main Memory         : 32 MB
ROM Version         :
CPU Type            : mips
App Architecture    : mips
Kernel Architecture : mips
OS Name             : ULTRIX
OS Version          : 4.2
Kernel Version      : ULTRIX V4.2A (Rev. 47) System #1: Fri Nov 20 18:08:36 MST
1992

        DEVICE INFORMATION

Device asc0 is a "SCSI" disk controller.
    Device rz0 is a "RZ56" disk drive.
    Device rz2 is a "RZ23L" disk drive.
    Device rz3 is a "RZ24" disk drive.
    Device rz4 is a "RRD42" disk drive.
    Device rz5 is a "RZ55" disk drive.
Device ln0 is a "DEC LANCE Ethernet Interface" network interface.
Device scc0 is a "SCC".


Sysinfo is avalable via anon FTP from sun.soe.clarkson.edu in /pub/src.
If this does not work for you let me know as we may have made some local
mods to it. (it was written for a Sun)

--
Steve.


-- 

Steve.                    sfreed@ariel.unm.edu

Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: cannell@ed8200.ped.pto.ford.com (Larry Cannell)
Subject: Re: unix version of VMS EDT??
Organization: Ford Motor Co., Powertrain Electronics
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 17:45:15 GMT

We use DEC TPU.  Compatible with the TPU under VMS, including the EDT keypad.

--
Larry Cannell (cannell@ed8200.ped.pto.ford.com)
Powertrain Electronics
Ford Motor Company
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: kdalton@nmsu.edu (Kim Dalton)
Subject: /lib/X11/fonts/decwin/misc/  need these fonts 
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Distribution: comp.unix.ultrix
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:56:34 GMT


I have a dec5000 with ultrix-32 v4.1 and would like to get ahold of
the /lib/X11/fonts/decwin/misc/  font files.  Specifically, 6x10,
6x12, 8x13, 8x13b, 9x15, 6x13, cursor.  
Any place I can get these?

Please respond with email:  kdalton@nmsu.edu

thanks.
From: ajc@pa.dec.com (AJ Casamento)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: Very large file systems ?
Date: 15 Dec 92 14:18:50
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
	<AJC.92Dec9225756@thendara.pa.dec.com>
	<johnd.724286019@cortex.physiol.su.oz.au>
NNTP-Posting-Host: thendara.pa.dec.com
In-reply-to: johnd@cortex.physiol.su.oz.au's message of Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:33:39 GMT



In article <johnd.724286019@cortex.physiol.su.oz.au> johnd@cortex.physiol.su.
oz.au (John Dodson) writes:


In <AJC.92Dec9225756@thendara.pa.dec.com> ajc@pa.dec.com (AJ Casamento) writes:

 >In article <johnd.723948393@cortex.physiol.su.oz.au> johnd@cortex.physiol.su.
 >oz.au (John Dodson) writes:

 >>> I just got a couple of Hitachi DK517C-37 scsi drives to go on my DecStn 
 >>> 5000/200 running Ultrix 4.2
>>		      ^^^^^^^^^^
>>			  |
>>			  |
>>		 I AM RUNNING ULTRIX 4.2 !!!


John,

  You are indeed. My sincere apologies for an incorrect response. I must have
read what I expected to read (since this question comes up so frequently), but
I should have been more careful.

  Fortunately Alan Rollow already caught your repost and corrected my error
(one of the advantage of working with folks of his caliber, my thanks for the
catch Alan).

Anyway, I'll try and be a little more awake (must be my caffeine wearing off).

				Thanx,
				  AJ


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From: ccs@aber.ac.uk (Christopher "Jd" Samuel)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: Anyway to stop X-windows?
Date: 11 Dec 92 12:45:56 GMT
Organization: University of Wales - Aberystwyth - Prifysgol Cymru

In article <4179@wzv.win.tue.nl>
   rob@wzv.win.tue.nl (Rob J. Nauta) doodled:

> jl8p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Joseph C. Lappa) writes:
> 
> >    We want to use a couple 5000/240s for compute only servers.  Does
> >anyone know of way that will prevent users from being able to use these
> >to run xwindows programs?  The servers will not be running any telnet or
> >remote utilites.   There is a queuing system being setup, but we're not
> >sure how to disable the abilit to run xwindows programs. 

> The suits strike again ...
> First, why not ?

Perhaps they have quite a few machines running X already, and they want
to have a machine somewhere that has a reasonable amount of free memory
and CPU so that people can do some real work like running Crack without
it continuously being swapped out... 

> solution ? Delete them. Hang Vt220's on the machines and make people
> use those. Think of a way to keep your job as users rain down
> complaints on your bosses desk.

Whats wrong with VT220's ? Our PC's terminal emulators still emulate
VT100's, and before you say go and get X for a PC, we aren't on the
Internet yet, so that won't help for anything off site. 

There's nowt wrong with a VT220.. :)

Cheers,
Chris
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