HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Traffic Peeves
Date: 27 Jan 93 14:57:36 GMT
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Distribution: alt
Organization: New Mexico State University, MetaPhysical Science Laboratory


   [... Geoff's traffic peeve deleted ...]
That's what you get for livin' in Californica, Geoff!

Peeve: Jack's in the Box new Shit Burgers (tm). Rare cooked beef with a 
       tasty E. Coli sauce. 279 people can't be wrong.

Wait.. That weren't Californica, though. 
Oh well..

Never mind!

 (..)
  ~~
L.
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Disclaimer: Opinions expressed here are CORRECT, mine, and not PSLs or NMSUs..
Oh sure, we could do it the _easy_ way. But it just wouldn't be the COWBOY WAY.
From: dre@catnip.berkeley.ca.us ()
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Enough with this Weather; give me back my Climate
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:43:04 GMT
Organization: The San Jose Home for Perverted Hackers

cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf) writes:

>Rick Gordon writes:
>>  Would you complain
>>if your house decided you needed the environment of the Amazonian tree
>frog,
>>and goosed the temperature *and* humidity up to jungle specs?

>I grew up in Southeatern Pennsylvania.  That's a typical August day.

Thus proving that she gave up one peevesom hell for another, all in
the name of love.  This makes her a better person.
-- 
"And tell me, how did you come to have so many children?"
"Well, Groucho, I love my wife."
"I love my cigar too, but I take it out sometimes."
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf)
Subject: Re: Enough with this Weather; give me back my Climate
Organization: /home/ludviga/cindy/.organization
	<1993Jan18.235759.3380@netcom.com>
	<CINDY.93Jan19202316@solan10.solan.unit.no>
	<6002@catnip.berkeley.ca.us>
Date: 23 Jan 93 14:23:42

>>>  Would you complain
>>>if your house decided you needed the environment of the Amazonian
tree
>>frog,
>>>and goosed the temperature *and* humidity up to jungle specs?
>
>>I grew up in Southeatern Pennsylvania.  That's a typical August day.
>
>Thus proving that she gave up one peevesom hell for another, all in
>the name of love.  This makes her a better person.

No, i gave up one peevesome hell to move to a place that is usually
quite nice.  If the storm i mentioned had been the norm, i probably
would not have been so extremely peeved about it, nor about hearing
someone else whine about a storm that seemed so trivial in comparison.
In general, Norwegian weather is wet but far better than its reputation.

Besides, i like the sort of place where, if you run tap water through a
strainer, nothing stays behind in the strainer.  Know what i mean?

ObPeeve: People who, on slippery days, park their car across the one
clear path on a walkway.

-Cindy Kandolf
 cindy@solan.unit.no
 Trondheim, Norway
From: baldwin@carina.unm.edu (Chris Baldwin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: My trip out West (long)
Date: 25 Jan 1993 07:01:17 GMT
Organization: Atheist for the Development of a Better God
NNTP-Posting-Host: carina.unm.edu

In article <1993Jan25.015916.17175@igor.tamri.com> donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin) writes:
>Gun control politics are one things but, if you were to say you liked the
>later (after 1973, excluding "Friday")  Heinlein, you'd REALLY scare me.
>He had some good stuff to say early on but most of what he wrote after
>"Time Enough for Love" was the confused gibberish of a trepanized, horny
>old man.  Probably under the influence of animal tranquilizers.
	Thanks, Don. All this time I thought I was just "missing"
something from some of Heinlein's stuff. After I read "Number of
the Beast" I was just left thinking "Huh?". At least I now know
that this was RAH's fault, not mine.

-- 

"My essential point is that the First Amendment does more for men
than it does for women by protecting speech that supports patrimony"
  -- Law Prof. Mary Becker, U of Chicago Law School
From: booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Cat Peeve
Date: 29 Jan 93 01:35:29 GMT
Organization: The Autodesk Ant Refuge

Well, as you all too frequently hear...I have too many cats.

I have four. They hang out with me in a teeny apartment, sleep on
my furniture, sleep on my freshly laundered clothing and lie on
my pillows when I am trying to sleep.

Every night - well, almost every night - I wake up coughing, have
to get some water, down a half glass for the irritation to go away
and conk out again.

I did not cough last night. I got up feeling rather refreshed and got
harrassed and badgered by Fred(a cat). He was asleep in the living room
and woke me at my usual hour and sang for his breakfast. I did not feel
like feeding him because he should not learn to wake me up for food. I
know that trick. I took him to work, where I have lots of food so he
can spend the day stuffing his face.

I put him in the car and he sat in my lap, rubbing his little snotty
nose on my wrists and making muffins. As I got to the Richmond
Bridge, I started coughing and big welts rose up on my wrists.

Ducky. I am allergic to one of four cats. I did not cough last night
because he was sleeping in another room.

So, poor Fred is going to have to face an unspeakable fate - the one 
that cats fear mightily.

That's right, campers. 



Fred is going to get a bath tonight.
-- 
"God must hate the common people, because he made them so common."
			--Philip Wylie
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Inauguration Parade Coverage (Was: Statistical bullshit)
From: gcombs@parsifal.umkc.edu (Gerald Combs)
Date: 25 Jan 1993 18:22:22 GMT
Reply-To: gcombs@parsifal.umkc.edu (Gerald Combs)
 <C17z08.9ns@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <1jn629INNa38@lynx.unm.edu>
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
NNTP-Posting-Host: parsifal.umkc.edu


In article <1jn629INNa38@lynx.unm.edu>, baldwin@carina.unm.edu (Chris Baldwin) writes:
>(*)For the American football impaired, Joe was the quarterback for the
>Washington Redskins several years ago. His career ended when he was
>sacked and had his leg broken in spectacular manner. Now that was a
>games worth watching. The injury involved his leg flopping around in
>all sorts of unnatural positions. Of course, the TV crew showed it
>about a hundred time from different angles in slow motion. As I
>remember, there was a great deal of blood and might have been a bone
>shard or two visible. This, however, might just be my overactive
>imagination projecting the injury I would have liked to have seen
>on this event. I haven't seen the tape of this in years.


MPEG! MPEG! MPEG!

 - or -

QuickTime! QuickTime! QuickTime!

- Gerald Combs
     _____     __o          Internet : gcombs@vax1.umkc.edu
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From: curtis@cs.berkeley.edu (Curtis Yarvin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: More Gun Control
Date: 28 Jan 1993 20:13:32 GMT
Organization: CS Dept. Snakepit - Do Not Feed.
NNTP-Posting-Host: boa.cs.berkeley.edu

In article <C1Kvz4.Lpx@vcd.hp.com> dmunroe@vcd.hp.com (Dave Munroe) writes:
>
>The issue I'm bringing out isn't whether crime is fun or whether it pays, it's
>that a growing number of people are addicted to a drug to such a degree that
>they will commit armed robbery or assault regardless of gun-control or any
>other laws.

Ah, bullshit.  The media, not because of any inherent political bias but
because people like to read sensational stories, really get off on this
picture of raving drug demons violating anything whether law human or animal
in their path.  

Jesus Christ.  As if crack were powdered Satan or something.  It's just
cocaine, folks; a whole lot of stupid yuppies did it back in the eighties,
and I noted no reports of pink-shirted business geeks raping six-year-olds
for their lunch money or spraying Madison Avenue with machine-gun fire.

Get a grip, okay?  If you quit believing this shit they'll quit feeding it
to you, and we can return to our previously-scheduled reality.

c
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Subject: Famous People Who Don't Post Here
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:31:38 GMT


	From news.groups, we find what our favorite ambulance-
	chaser-to-be occupies his time with, nowadays.....



<	    No. of       % of
<   Rank Articles KBytes Total   User

<      3   259     388.0  0.1%   thf2@ellis.UCHICAGO.EDU  (Ted Frank)
<				 10% alt.conspiracy
<				 10% talk.politics.misc
<				 8% alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
<				 8% alt.folklore.urban
<				 8% rec.sport.baseball
<				 6% misc.legal
From: potler@umbc.edu (Laura Potler)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Orientals . . .
Date: 22 Jan 1993 17:13:53 -0500
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc4.umbc.edu

In article <1jphd1INNclm@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM writes:
>potler@umbc.edu (Laura Potler) writes:
>>related peeve: anyone who gets on the airwaves and claims that they have 
>>the solution to all of our problems but, in reality, does nothing to solve 
>>them. 
>Solving problems is well outside the purview of a radio commentator, whether
>he's liberal or conservative.

my point exactly. 
perhaps if i restate...

related peeve: blowhards!

-l "i just know someone's gonna misinterpret that one, too." p
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From: russ@bbxrbk (Russ Kepler)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Flats
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:08:26 GMT
Organization: russ at home in Albuquerque New Mexico

In article <C1Go4o.LwK@dcs.ed.ac.uk> Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford) writes:
>You *sure* none of you are millionare philanthropists?

I'm sure that there are millionares around alt.peeves, but I haven't
seen a philanthropist here yet.

-- 
Russ Kepler, posting from home   russ@bbx.basis.com, bbxrbk!russ@bbx.basis.com
"It's better to be quotable than to be honest" - Tom Stoppard
From: dre@catNIP.Berkeley.ca.us (Licensed Sex Practitioner)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: FauxNoWhere (Was: Living in the Middle of Nowhere)
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:21:02 GMT

ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy) writes:

><In article <93021.105044SEK@psuvm.psu.edu> Sonja Kueppers <SEK@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

><However, just recently it's been getting on my nerves. 
><I am delighted that my relatives want to give me china, silver, and
><crystal for my upcoming wedding.  

>	ObPeeve: bribes given to post-adolescents so they will
>	get a State-Sex-License.

Now she can ask her mother about the proper way to give a post-partum
blowjob.

!Peeve: Cool mothers-in-law.
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: geoffm@netcom.com (Not Of This Earth)
Subject: Re: Upper Respiratory, USA
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Summary: In the log run, we're all dead.
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 04:44:17 GMT



In article <1993Jan22.185935.28220@twg.com> nolan@twg.com writes:

>I wish I could get rid of this gob of mucous that's stuck at the junction of
>my bronchii. Coughing doesn't work. Decongestants fail likewise. It's been
>there for weeks now. I'm thinking of having my windpipes cauterized.


Getcha one of those grabber things for when you drop the U-jointed twig
down inside the exhaust manifold.  Stick it down your throat, grab onto
the Mother Of All Lungers, and pull it out.  Then mail it to Jenny G, just
so's she knows we're still thinking about her out San Francisco way.


!Peeve: Jenny's visit.  It's been ages since I've had so many fun days and
        nights in such a short length of time.

Peeve:  Where the hell are Dan Hillman and Tim Mefford?



Geoff

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From: dac@prolix.apana.org.au (Andrew Clayton)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Staying back at work.
Date: 27 Jan 93 13:36:31 GMT
Organization: More like Dis~, really.
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00

Peeve: having to stay back at work against one's will.

I'm involved with producing version 2 of our Mickeysoft Lan
Manager based Lan software.  We're migrating from Lan Manager V
1.1 to Lan Manager 2.1a. As well as this, we have redesigned our
server environments, and user environments, upgrading to newer
versions of boring DOS stuff like Windows 3.1, WFW2, Excel 4 and
all that sorta shit.

The headache is going from our locally labelled '1.7' release, to
the new 2.0 platform.

Migration of umpty ump thousand users is a MAJOR PAIN.

I _thought_ I had nothing to do with migration, since I did other
bits and pieces of the system, and was meant to be going on to do
the documentation [major spew avoided there!]. However, the guy
who designed the migration process went on two weeks leave, and
we had to have it NOW. So yours truly had to sit down and work
out how to do this magic automatically.

It isn't straightforward at all. :-(

No thanks to Microsoft for changing the way access information is
kept.

No thanks to Microsoft for having buggy lanmangler code.

No thanks to Microsoft for forcing us to stay with OS/2 1.3 on
our server platforms, because Lan Manager will NOT run with any
version of OS/2 higher than this.

No thanks to Microsoft for their spewable applications, which
insist on hard-coded paths.

No thanks to Microsoft for their lamentable lack of product
support.

No thanks to the thickhead who designed the OS/2 MOVE command.

No thanks to the guy who 'designed' the Migration process, and
left it up to someone else to implement.  Sheesh.

Tonight we tried the migration.  4 hours of fucking around, and
30 minutes of trying my REXX script, and finding that there were
odd cases that were just horrendous catch-22 situations.

Yes, this has been a compunerdygeekism. 

Better than gun lobby taunting. :-)

Dac
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dac@prolix.sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au      Canberra, Australia           \X/ (_](_](_
                    <Using ARN on an Amiga 4000. Yay!>
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: diana@wetware.com (CatWoman )
Subject: Re: More Gun Control
Organization: Castle WetWare MouseCatcher
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:29:17 GMT

bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM writes:

] What gets me is that I can't buy land mines or hand grenades.
] Brian Scearce                                           

Uhh - Brian?

You been hanging out with drieux lately?
(of course he wants mortars and claymores
and a whole bunch of other stuff I can't
either remember or pronounce...)

Diana
From: potler@umbc.edu (Laura Potler)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: take MY half out of the middle, was: King of the Sidewalk Peeve
Date: 24 Jan 1993 21:06:17 -0500
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc4.umbc.edu

In article <1993Jan24.100605.5684@netcom.com> obrien@netcom.com (No parking EXCEPT FOR BOB) writes:
>There's even similar offenses BDI's do with their cars.  sheesh.

reminds me of a friend of a friend who noticed that a lady in a mercedes was
trying to cut into his lane. he leaned out the window and yelled "COMPANY CAR!!
I'M NOT YIELDING!! COMPANY CAR, LADY!!"

-l "she reconsidered" p


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*     "How did Elvis' handwriting appear on his own death certificate?"  *
*		--from "The Elvis Files:  Was His Death Faked?"          *
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Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-)
Subject: Re: Slow moving parodies (was: Inauguration Parade Coverage)
Organization: OFSA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:01:24 GMT

banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking and 2 lbs after
all the hot air has been cooked off) says:

>Steve Salter writes:
>>what would pushup the Neilsen (sp?) ratings!
>

>Guess who you've just prodded.
>
>drew
>banta@abingdon.sun.com

Hmmmm, drew...banta@abingdon....huh? Hmmm, I must have made an
impression on you, drew, but since your name only rings a bell ever so
faintly I imagine I regarded you as one of the usual airheads
infesting the net at the time. 

So I  have prodded you, eh drew? How interesting in a vague sort of
way.

Steve
From: geoffm@netcom.com (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: My trip out West (long)
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:50:53 GMT
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Organization: FizzBall Racing



Transferring his hands from pants to keyboard, banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM
(242 lbs before cooking) writes:

>Actually, I seem to remember the problem being that lipstick wasn't
>fine enough to draw your likeness on a ricecake cum skeet.  

A "ricecake cum skeet?"  I don't recall them being all that goopy.


>That, and Geoff didn't want us to use the last of his lipstick.

I'd already used the last of it myself, to draw a red ring around the
base of my crank so as to make your honey jealous.



Geoff

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From: root@antipope.uucp (Superuser)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Peeve du jour
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:13:01 GMT
X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2)
Return-receipt-to: root%antipope.uucp@ibmpcug.co.uk

mhart@blackjack.dt.navy.mil (Michael Hart) writes:

>General!Peeve: games.  Love 'em; almost any type.
>	Specially Trivial Pursuit, Outburst, cards (hearts, spades,
>		cribbage, gin), Rummy-O, Uno, and on and on.

Um. Do you know "Prisoner's Dilemma?" (The Internet version. Like:
there are two of you and a strange newsgroup. Each of you has to 
post. You've zero'd in on one of the local big machers as a 
target. Do you (a) cooperate and simultaneously flame the shit
out of h[im|er], (b) wait for your opponent to flame then slime 
on them, (c) grovel to the local B.M., or (d) get the hell out?
I think John von Neumann had something to say about this ...)

Peeve: Mornington Crescent. I always loose. Maybe it's because
Croxley Green is closed for repairs on alternate Saturdays and
you've got to divert via Rickmansworth ...

Sorry if this sounds a bit dissociated. I'm missing half the
skin on my hands and it's taking something of an effort to
concentrate on the keyboard, never mind the token peeves.

-- Charlie

   charlie@antipope.uucp/charlie%antipope.uucp@ibmpcug.co.uk
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Subject: Re: More Gun Control
Followup-To: talk.politics.guns
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
	<lluguqINN49r@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:06:30 GMT

<In article <lluguqINN49r@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Scearce) writes:

<What gets me is that I can't buy land mines or hand grenades.

	Why, won't your local police chief sign the appropriate
	Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms sheets? Or
	does Kalifornia law ban those things?

	"Destructive devices" are regulated under the National
	Firearms Act of 1934 and the Gun Control Act of 1968.
	See the "Red book" for details.

ObPeeve: people that don't know what they are writing about, but
	 write anyway.

ObFollowup: OUT of alt.peeves.
From: dre@catnip.berkeley.ca.us ()
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Another "I'm getting old" peeve
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:33:21 GMT
Organization: The San Jose Home for Perverted Hackers

ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-) writes:

>obrien@netcom.com (No parking EXCEPT FOR BOB) exults:


>>?Peeve:  until now, all these age peevers were complaining 'bout being
>>	an age I'm already past.  (I'm vintage 1957)


>Ahh, a veritable 'young whippersnapper'...'54 for me.

You meant '74, right?  Given the way you and Cowshit carry on
over in a.r.c [aids related complex], I'm suprised that you've
reached the Age Of Majority.
From: russ@bbxrbk (Russ Kepler)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: More Gun Control
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:08:14 GMT
Organization: russ at home in Albuquerque New Mexico

In article <1993Jan28.014844.14393@msc.cornell.edu> bickham@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Scott Bickham,C17 Clark Hall,56079,2737038) writes:
>Alas, another one of my idols has fallen.  As soon as it leaves the barrel,
>the only external force acting on the bullet is gravity and air resistance.
>Neglecting the air resistance (ahich is roughly proportional to, and
>oppositely directed to the velocity), the speed will be the same when it
>returns to the same height as the barrel.  Air-resistance will make it
>a little less, but not by much compared to the muzzle velocity.  Hope you're
>feeling better tomorrow Geoff, although I imagine that you're busy reading
>through your AMOK catalog in your spare time.

I think that you need to take a few remedial physics courses, Scotty. 
"A little bit less" in a typical case (say a cartridge from a hunting
rifle) would be something like 10%.  A 150 grain bullet, fired
vertically will leave the muzzle at something like 2700ft/sec and
return to the ground some 55 seconds later at 300 ft/sec.

-- 
Russ Kepler, posting from home   russ@bbx.basis.com, bbxrbk!russ@bbx.basis.com
"It's better to be quotable than to be honest" - Tom Stoppard
From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Inauguration Parade Coverage (Was: Sta
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Date: 22 Jan 1993 18:19:42 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Menlo Park, Ca.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: purplehaze.corp.sun.com



baldwin@carina.unm.edu (Chris Baldwin) writes:

>ObPeeve: Joe [Theismann] went on to become one of the most annoying 
>announcers on TV. 


My dad is a football fanatic extraordinaire, and it's a rare winter 
weekend indeed when he doesn't have the TV tuned to a game.  This is
peevesome because it makes it rather difficult to carry on a conver-
sation, and because being rather hard of hearing due to some radical
kind of ear infection years ago, he always has the volume cranked
way up.  I have very sensitive hearing, thanks in no small part to
taking great precautions to avoid the dreaded Turboprop Ear, so the
volume is particularly trying -- especially for someone who's not a
sports fan.

Being a part-time reluctant football viewer, I can't help acquiring
a basic familiarity with the announcers, and this had led me to
develop a venomous dislike for John Madden.  The guy has an incredibly
irritating, adenoidal voice, and he never shuts up!  He seems to have
a pathological fear of dead air, and will say something -- anything --
to prevent so much as a moment of silence during the telecast. Adding 
insult to injury is the fact that so many of his comments are so inane; 
he contributes little but unnecessary noise.  Whenever I have to listen 
to him, I have an almost overpowering urge to jump up and yell, "Will you 
*shut up* for once in your life?!  Just fucking *shut up!*"  Howard Cosell
annoyed a lot of people with his motor-mouthed commentary, but Madden is
far worse.



Geoff


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