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From: cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Price of train from Gatwick to Lond
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:18:04 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, Scotland
In-reply-to: dhyams@autelca.ascom.ch's message of 28 Jul 92 10:59:57 GMT

In article <dhyams.712321197@sun11> dhyams@autelca.ascom.ch (David Hyams) writes:

   >The price of the express train from Gatwick to Victoria Station
   >is 8 pounds.

   Just out of interest, how much is the return fair? Surely not 16 pounds - I
   remember paying 10 pounds a few years ago.

Most British Rail single fares are almost as expensive as a full-price return
fare, which means that they're a lot more expensive than a discount saver
return fare (for which you have to book in advance and meet lots of
conditions).   British Rail lives in its own little universe.  Whenever you
travel on a British Rail train, just keep saying to yourself "their
government investment money is only a quarter of what it used to be".
--
	-- Chris. 	cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk   (on Janet, cc@uk.ac.ed.dcs)

		
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From: mtume@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu (Annette Bernhardt)
Subject: ticket chicago->boston, 1-way, looking for
Organization: U of Chicago, SSPPCC
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 18:32:50 GMT



I am looking for one-way ticket, chicago -> boston,
around the middle of August (15th and after), preferably
for a male. A cheap two way will do fine.

If have one, write to :   mtume@sam.spc.uchicago.edu







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From: kester@mte.ncsu.edu (Dan Kester)
Subject: Re: Disney World (FAQ?)
Organization: Mat. Sci. & Eng., NCSU
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 15:19:45 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.135324.25451@vuse.vanderbilt.edu> dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu
(David A. Braun) writes:
>If there is a Disney World FAQ, will someone please either forward it to me
>or else point me to it?
>
>If not...
>Are there any "deals" to be had on accomodations AT Disney World?
>Ditto air fares TO DW.
>
>Thanks in advance for your assistance.
>
>David Braun aka dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu
>"Sit down and SHUT UP!" - George Bush to his constituency
>
>
>
Read the group: rec.arts.disney.  

They discuss it all the time
From: elm@cs.berkeley.edu (ethan miller)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Help with Yosemite plan
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:32:07 GMT
Reply-To: elm@cs.berkeley.edu
Organization: Department of Diabolical and Unauthorized Research
NNTP-Posting-Host: terrorism.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: klee@wsl.dec.com's message of Wed, 22 Jul 92 00:23:28 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.002328.896@PA.dec.com> klee@wsl.dec.com (Ken Lee) writes:
=>Yosemite is a huge park with tons of things to do.  Your "must do" list
=>will depend heavily on your interests.  Fit hikers will want to hike
=>the trail up to the summit of Half Dome, argueably the most famous hike
=>in the United States.  Even if you aren't that fit, the lower (and
=>flatter) few miles of the trail are extremely scenic.

Actually, the climb up to the top of Nevada Falls (which is on the
trail to Half-Dome) is close to 2000' vertical gain from the
trailhead.  Hardly the 4000' of Half-Dome, which, but respectable
nonetheless.  Then there's always the climb to the top of Yosemite
Falls, which has a 2500' gain in a 3.5 mile trail.

=>Less energetic people usually wander around Yosemite Valley floor,
=>admiring the cliffs and rock climbers.  Perhaps they'll drive up to
=>Glacier Point, or out to one of the giant sequoia groves.

Tuolomne Meadows is nice as well.  The climb to the top of Lambert
Dome at the east end of the meadows isn't too difficult (less than
1000' vertical), and provides an excellent view over the meadows.

ethan
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From: rclark@alcor.concordia.ca (Richard Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Young homeless in Canada?
Keywords: Canada Toronto Montreal homeless
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:00:38 GMT
Organization: Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec

I don't pretend to be an expert on this topic either, but I live in
Montreal and I know there is a program so that homeless people can
receive their welfare checks at city hall (you need to have an address
to collect a welfare check) until they can get straightened out.  In
the province of Quebec however, people under 30 years of age, unless
they have children, receive very little money from welfare unless they
either go to school or accept work (when available).  I have also
heard (and seen) numerous instances of people panhandling in order to
make some quick money.  Montreal, in addition to being the 2nd largest
french speaking city in the world (so many people from the rest of
quebec end up there), is also a gateway from Canada's Maritime
provinces to the rest of the country, thus attracting many people from
the hard-hit east coast.  Sadly, many young people turn to
prostitution to make money.  If the area of St. Catherine street
described was near Boul. St. Laurent or St. Denis, these are
Montreal's "red-light" district.  St Catherine street is fairly long
and runs through both the richest community in Canada (Westmount), and
some of the poorest.

rick clark

-- 
rick clark   (rclark@alcor.concordia.ca)
             (CIS 70272,3270)
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From: rjm1@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (bob.j.mohorek)
Subject: Ohare/Midway Bus
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:46:37 GMT


	I'm looking for information on a bus that takes you from
	Chicago's Midway Airport to O'Hare Airport. I know of one
	for about $10 (CW Transportation CO.), however I seem to
	recall seeing one for about $5. Does anyone have any info 
	regarding this? Thanks in advance.


					Bob Mohorek
Newsgroups: rec.travel,ne.general
From: llew@wpi.WPI.EDU (Lew Yan Voon)
Subject: Bahamaian Consulate phone no.
Organization: WPI
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:27:27 GMT

Anyone knows the phone number for the Bahamaian consulate in the
From: davelett@athena.mit.edu (Richard Sun)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Beaches In New York, New Jersey, New England
Date: 24 Jul 92 01:44:23 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Jul23.194242.21342@cbnews.cb.att.com> lib@cbnews.cb.att.com (Lib) writes:
>  
>Can anyone suggest some areas in New York, New Jersey or New England with
>a bunch of nice oceea eor lke beaches within a reasonable driving distance
>of each other? 
>  
>Thanks in advance.
>   
>P.S. What about Long Island? I've never been there. What about the Jersey 
>Shore? Is it one long beach or what?
> 
>

The best beaches in the area are in New Jersey and New York, since it gets much
colder in New England.  In New Jersey, the Jersey coast is generally pretty
good, but it is better towards the south, like around Atlantic City.

New York City beaches are overcrowded and not too clean, but Rockaway is good
(in Queens).  Long Island south shore beaches are probably the best in the
northeast, like Jones Beach.  But beware the beach crowds on nice days;
traffic is backed up on the LI Expressway and other main routes starting
at 10 AM on nice (esp. weekend) days.  A good idea is to visit for breakfast;
the air is refreshing in the early morning.  And then you can make fun of the
people who are backed up for 5 miles on the expressway as you leave before
noon.

Connecticut has nice beaches, though they are generally pretty pebbly.
Rhode Island has some nice beaches, but I'm not that familiar with RI.

Massachusetts has many good seashore areas on the Cape (Cape Cod).
From: pabo@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Eric Pabo)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1992 21:33:45 GMT
Subject: Re: TRAIN travel
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: rec.travel

I have done the Denver to Glenwood Springs and back on the Zephyr and the
scenery is great!  Make your dining reservations early as the dining rooms were
very busy when  I did this.

Also, if you are not in a hurry you might spend a night in Glenwood Springs and
swim in the pool there.  I think it is the largest outdoor pool heated by hot
springs.  Anyway, I think it is a lot of fun.  The pool is an easy walk from
the railroad station in Glenwood; less than a mile and some of the hotels 
run a shuttle if you want a ride.  If you would like more infor e-mail me.

Regards,

Eric F Pabo
pabo@hpsmpa.lvld.hp.com
303-679-3947
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From: ninneman@mari.acc.stolaf.edu (Ex-Twin Peaks actor seeks employment)
Subject: Re: Mission Bay, San Diego
Summary: Good beaches. (Where the locals won't give you dirty looks, too!) 
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN  USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:22:20 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.202700.19554@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov> frisbee@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Tyler Brown) writes:
>We (2 adults, 2 young kids) are going to Mission bay for a mid-week vacation
>next month. We are staying in a hotel on Mission Beach. Need opinions on
>restaurants/sights/good beach zones for the family.
>
>		frisbee@devvax.jpl.nasa.gov
>
>

I grew up in the San Diego area, and the two beaches I loved best as a child of
about 8 were in La Jolla, I believe about a 10 minute trip north of MB. 

Torrey Pines State Park/Beach is really popular, located between Del Mar and
La Jolla, but if you walk about 10 minutes south along the beacn you can get
away from the crowds. Nice sandy beach, with these magnificent Torrey Pine-
topped cliffs rising 100 feet up behind you. To get there: take I5 north,
go west on Carmel Valley Road, cut south about 100 yards on the Pac. Coast Hwy
and you'll be right there.

Even more interesting for the kids (my fave, anyway) are the tide pools, which
are somewhere in that La Jolla area. It's a mile-long stretch where these 
long, flat rocks stretch out into the ocean, and they have these pools worn
into them, from 1 to 6 or so feet wide, and many have anemone, mollusks, etc.
living in them that the kids can check out up-close at low tide. 

It's been about four years since I've been out there, so you'll probably want
to double-check my directions with the locals first. Hope it's fun!

					-scot ninnemann
					ninneman@stolaf.edu
Date: Wednesday, 22 Jul 1992 14:52:43 EDT
From: <34AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Air Couriers

Could someone please repost, or send me privately, the names,
addresses, telnos, etc., of the air courier companies that have
appeared here from time to time? Any extra info about any of
said companies, who can fly as a courier, how, prices, etc.,
would also be welcome. Thanks.

W. K. Gorman
From: gessner@stars.gsfc.nasa.gov (Susan E. Gessner)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Belize/San Pedro
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:18:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: stars.29JUL199212182439
Organization: Hughes STX
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1


   I will be leaving next week for Belize and staying on the Island of San
Pedro. We are staying at a place called "Ramones" which sounds pretty neat..
grass huts right on the beach! Any recommendations for the trip would be
appreciated:

  -places to eat
  -things to see
  -travel tips

Thanks!
Susan
From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: *NEW* TRAVEL ADVISORY -- Congo
Date: 21 Jul 1992 10:20:32 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL ADVISORY - Congo
============================================================
CONGO - CAUTION
 July 20, 1992

The Department of State advises U.S. citizens to exercise caution 
when traveling to the Congo.  Although the situation remains 
outwardly calm, tensions in the recently-named transition government 
have created the possibility of civil disturbances in Brazzaville, 
the capital.  Elections scheduled for June have been postponed to 
mid-August at the earliest.  Visitors should be aware that they may 
be caught up in mass demonstrations, which may obstruct normal 
services, including airport operations.

Travelers to the Congo should register upon arrival with the 
Consular Section of the U.S. Embassy in Brazzaville, on Avenue 
Amilcar Cabral, B.P. 1015, telephone 83-20-70.

 No. 92-146

This advisory replaces the previous advisory, issued March 18, 
1992, to advise caution due to the possibility of civil disturbances 
in Brazzaville, and to inform of the postponement of elections.

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From: staggers@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ken Staggers)
Subject: Re: Re: World Airline Rankings?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 21:29:57 GMT

In article <9500004@hpysora.tky.hp.com> shin@hpysora.tky.hp.com (Shinichi Saito) writes:
>  This survey from Japanese Travel Magazine (Frequent traveler answered.)
>
>                 xxxxxxxxx The worst Airline xxxxxxxx
>                  1st.  PK  : Pakistan Airline
>                  2nd.  NW  : NorthWest Airline

Is that Northwest airlines, the Minneapolis based company?  Or the
NorthWest airlines, which is part of the Chinese govt's airline group?

--Ken

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From: rama@ms.uky.edu (Sivakumar Ramamoorthy)
Subject: Ride offered/Wanted Lexington to Indianapolis in August.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 00:26:13 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

I plan to take a trip from Lexington To Indianapolis in August probably
on the 12th or so.I may go after the 21 st also.Willing to adjust dates 
a bit.
I plan to rent a car.Anyone willing to share?
Siva R
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: giand@opencon.com (Deepak S. Gianchandani)
Subject: Re: Diabetic Insulin Carrier
Followup-To: giand@opencon.com
Summary: Insulin Carrier
Keywords: Medicool Insulin Protector
Organization: OpenCon Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:11:14 GMT


Over three weeks ago, someone has posted a request for information on
Insulin carrying device that would keep the insulin cool.  Sorry for
delay in the information -- hope people out there still need the information
as I did not see anybody responding to it.

	The Insulin carrier I have is made by Medicool, Inc. out of Torrance, 
California. The name of the product is, "The Medicool Insulin Protector".
The carrier has a dispenser which is filled with "blue ice" which is reusable
-- just like your ice chest cooling "blue ice" products which are frozen in
your freezer and re-used. The dispenser allows two insulin bottles to be kept
in the "blue ice" holder -- which is inserted into a insulated cover.  This 
cover has pouches for needles, Alcohol Swabs.  My wife had ordered it through
adds in the Diabetic Magazines (you should be able get copies of magazines 
at your local library or give your doctor a call). 

	Personnally, I have not used it a lot.  The trips I make are not camping
trips and the insulin can stay in room temperatures up 90 degrees F. I do not
store my day to day insulin in the refrigerator.  I do store the additional
supply in the refrigerator. I had learned this when I went to a Diabetic camp
almost 14 years ago -- where the day to day insulin was not stored in the
refrigerator. (Additional note, back then we did not have Human-lin Insulin.)

	The product, Medicool is a good product -- especially if you are 
planing to take the insulin on hiking trips where the insulin might get hot
through indirect sunlight. The Medicool comes with two "blue ice" trays --
but the insulating pouch can only hold one of "blue ice" trays.

	Deepak (giand@opencon.com)
Organization: Office of Planning & Budget, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 09:14:17 -0400 
From: Karin Berger <kb42+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: ticket Pitt=>San Francisco

Sell one way ticket:

American Airlines
Pittsburgh to San Francisco via Dallas
for a female
24.August (can be changed for $25)

I paid $250, please make me an offer.

Karin

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: AS.GGG@forsythe.stanford.edu (Gwyn Gordon)
Subject: driving from NM to CA?
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:14:18 GMT

HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP
HELP                                                        HELP
HELP                                                        HELP
HELP  ARE YOU DRIVING TO CALIFORNIA FROM NEW MEXICO?!?!?!?  HELP
HELP                     **********      **********         HELP
HELP                                                        HELP
HELP                                                        HELP
HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP


I need to find someone who is driving from New Mexico to California,
preferably in a motorhome or some other largish truck.  I am
purchasing an old Porsche from a friend near Albuquerque, and cannot
afford to have it professionally shipped all the way to San
Francisco ($700+!)

Instead, I want to find someone to hitch a tow-bar or flatbed to.
I'll pay something decent (a couple of tanks of gas?) for the
trouble, and insure the thing against accident or somesuch.

If you know anyone who's about to take a trip through the Southwest
and California, and who is responsible and friendly, PLEASE PLEASE
PLEASE contact me:

Gwyn Gordon
415-723-1785 work
415-321-8051 home
gwyn.gordon@forsythe.stanford.edu

Thank you!!
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From: gjidi@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (John Idicula)
Subject: Morgan City, LA
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 10:37:12 GMT

Hello there!

I want to have information on Morgan City, LA. I hope to
receive anything and everything on Morgan City.

My friend is planning to live there for at least 6 months.
Any help would be appreciated.

Please post or e-mail.

Thank you.
John Idicula			gjidi@ntu.ac.sg
				gjidi@ntuvax.bitnet
-- 
------------
John Idicula
GINTIC Institute of CIM
Nanyang Technological University
From: kb42+@andrew.cmu.edu (Karin Berger)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: ticket Pitt=>San Francisco
Date: 30 Jul 92 13:26:29 GMT
Organization: Office of Planning & Budget, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Sell one way ticket:

American Airlines
Pittsburgh to San Francisco via Dallas
for a female
24.August (can be changed for $25)

I paid $250, please make me an offer.

Karin
From: tzung@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (tzung-i.lin)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Good B&B in/around Smokies Mountain NP?
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:53:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

Hi,

I'm planning to have a trip to Smokies Mt. NP.  I'll be leaving from
Atlanta, GA to Smokies Mt. and stay one night in that are, then 
come back to Atlanta the next day.

I would appreciate any recommendations about good B&B and
places I should not miss in Smokies Mountain.

Thanks.

Tzung-I
tzung@hugo.att.com
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From: TAJVAR@Zeus.unomaha.edu (Hadi Tajvar)
Subject: wanted: nice California beach(es)?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 00:53:00 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.11

Greetings,

Would anyone please tell me about beaches in California?  I will appreciate
your response.  Please Email directly to 
			"TAJVAR@zeus.unomaha.edu" 
			or
			"tajvar@odin.unomaha.edu".

thank you very much,
Hadi




Xref: sparky rec.travel:10933 co.general:1077
From: jennings@lhotse.stortek.com (Jeff Jennings)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,co.general
Subject: Re: Trip around CO, NM &AZ. Where to go?
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:49:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Storage Tek

Mesa Verde National Park, between Durango and Cortez in Colo, has a great
campground, some wonderful scenery, and the cliff dwellings.  It's an all
around cool place.  The campground has 500+ spaces and never fills up (well,
twice in the history of the park, last I knew).  The park itself (and the 
campground) are on the Mesa Verde which is at ~7000 ft, and consequently 
much cooler than the surrounding desert.  (Those Anasazi were no dummies.)
Highly recommended.

- jeff

BTW - I used to be a Park Ranger there, but maybe you could tell that.

--
--
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Jeff_Jennings@stortek.com  | Judging from realistic simulations involving a
Storage Technology         | sledge hammer and a common laboratory frog, we
Iceberg - LSVL 2A          | can assume it will be pretty bad. -- Dave Barry
From: dmk@noho.Eng.Sun.COM (David Kahn)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: New York, New York....
Date: 21 Jul 1992 19:58:13 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: noho

In article <BrJ2rw.AnL@cck.coventry.ac.uk> ccx009@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Adam Bentley) writes:
>
>Hi there,
>	I'm going to be in New York, sometime during August, but only for
>	between 7 and 10 days. I want to get the maximun experience from 
>	the visit so I was wondering what places I should make a point
>	of visiting whilst there. 


I highly recommend a visit to the New York Port Authority Bus Terminal --
this place is so interesting, it desreves a newsgroup of it's own. :-)

[ If you have not been following this newsgroup, ignore this message. ]

-David

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: dik@cwi.nl (Dik T. Winter)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: InterRail - 5 nations exit
Date: 25 Jul 92 00:43:46 GMT
Organization: CWI, Amsterdam

In article <1992Jul24.164209.9756@colorado.edu> citrin@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Wayne Citrin) writes:
 > In article <CC.92Jul24125649@arran.dcs.ed.ac.uk> cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke) writes:
 > >In article <1992Jul23.172209.6882@colorado.edu> citrin@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Wayne Citrin) writes:
 > >   >I just got back from Portugal and I know that Spain was charging InteRail
 > >   >passengers 5000 pesetas if they stopped over in Spain.  I met dozens
 > >   >of people who had ridden straight through to Portugal in order to avoid
 > >   >the fee.
 > >
 > >   How can they tell?  What's to prevent you from getting off the train in
 > >   Spain without paying the fee?
 > >
 > >Ticket inspectors at ticket barriers in the railway station, I'd imagine.
No ticket inspectors at ticket barriers in Spain (and in most of Europe; the
last one I met was in the UK, perhaps they are still there).
 > 
 >                                                          Every train ticket 
 > I've seen gives the passenger the right take the train to a given destination
 > within a certain amount of time, with the right to get off at any intervening
 > stations. The only exceptions I've seen have been immigration-related(getting
 > off in East Germany when one only has a transit visa for Berlin,for example).
There is one other exception, and that is Spain.  If you get off the train
your ticket has to be marked at the station.  I admit, this rule is not
strictly enforced.  But in general the marks used in Europe to cancel train
tickets indicate train number and date, so that will tell the story.
-- 
dik t. winter, cwi, kruislaan 413, 1098 sj  amsterdam, nederland
home: bovenover 215, 1025 jn  amsterdam, nederland
dik@cwi.nl
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From: slyin@engin.umich.edu (Shanliang Yin)
Subject: Car rental below 21
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 17:34:16 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa
Keywords: car rental

Hi everyone! 
I'm younger than 21 (19 actually) and would like
to rent a car. 
From what I know, most car rental companies
only rent car to people 21 or older. While others
charge a very high extra fee ( I think Budget charges a
$25/day "young-drivers surcharge").
Does anyone know of car rental companies that
i) rent to people <21yrs
ii) do not add a surcharge or at least something more
    resonable.

I'm particularly interested in car rentals in the Boston
or New York City areas as I will be visiting there .
Any suggestions for national car rental companies or
car rentals in other part are welcome too , never know when
I'll be visiting ;).

Thanks in advance

					S L Yin
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