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From: hcollings@vax1.umkc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Pat Buchannan Convention Speech
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:00:43 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

In article <1299600063@igc.apc.org>, Christic Institute <christic@igc.apc.org> writes:
> 
> The quote was more like:  "The Russians have got rid of their
> left-wingers.  Why can't we get rid of our left-wingers?"  And
> it was Pat Roberson's speech, not Buchanan's.
> 
> Andy Lang
> 
> 
Well does it really make a difference which one of those radical right wingers
said it.  The point is that if Bush has croneys like this speaking at his
national convention then with friends of the country like this who needs
enemies.  Sounds like they want to bomb here as soon as they are finished with
Saddam!!
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From: mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Rely on science not on purposeful environmental hysteria
Date: 29 Aug 92 23:37:26 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corporation
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In article <1992Aug29.162731.5885@dscomsf.desy.de> Hallam@zeus02.desy.de writes:
>-In article <1992Aug26.160653.12333@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>, |>In article
><mqa4PB1w164w@cellar.org>, techie@cellar.org (William A Bacon) writes:

>|>> Sources:1) Sherwood B Idso, PhD, Carbon Dioxide and global change, IBR Press
>|>|>> Tempe, Arizona 1989
>|>> 2) Access to Energy newsletter, Petr Beckman, PhD Boulder Colorado

>|>	4)  There are more CO2 resevoirs than just the atmosphere.  The oceans,
>|>the biosphere, and the very rocks of the earth serve as CO2
>|>resevoirs.  right 
>|>now the CO2 in the earth is being released into the atmosphere at a
>|>very high 
>|>rate, which in turn affects the other CO2 "sinks".  These do provide
>|>something
>|>of a buffering effect, but not a great deal is really known about their
>|>interaction and how it relates to global warming.  

>The only real conclusion that can be made is that we are probably
>increasing the 
>amount of CO2 in the atmosphere at a dangerously high rate. 

Mind telling us where you get the 'probably' from?  Also, we need a
definition of 'dangerously' for this statement to make sense.

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From: pierres@microsoft.com (Pierre Stromberg)
Subject: Re: TELEVISION: The Ultimate Weapon of Mass Enslavement 
Date: 02 Sep 92 16:14:05 GMT
Organization: Sausage, SPAM, Baked Beans, and SPAM Incorporated.
Distribution: na
Keywords: television, mass hypnosis, mass hysteria, mass enslavement



In article <1992Aug28.194436.14810@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> you write:
>
>Our citizenry's growing allegiance to a strident, militaristic state
>power structure is the fruit of television's systematic, perennial
>inculcation of guileful mythology upon the American psyche.
>
>[delicious rant deleted for brevity]


     Hey John, I showed this around at work and here's what one person
asked me to post for him.


A coworker writes...


I realize now that GILLIGAN'S ISLAND is much more than it appears.
It was obviously conceived and produced by someone who could see
this mass-enslavement going on and wanted to warn us, but could
only do so in a way that would be transparent to The Establishment.

On the surface, it appears as merely a light and harmless form
of mass entertainment.  I now realize its deeper symbolism:

*That Lovey and Thurston Howell, III, represent the exploitive
upper-class industrialists;

*That Mary Ann represents the powerful rural farmers and landowners;

*That Ginger represents the forces of the Ministry of Information, which in
America calls itself "Hollywood";

*That The Professor represents the intellectual establishment that exists
only to continuously validate the status quo through new "scientific
discoveries";

*That The Skipper represents those of the subjugated masses who conspire
with their masters to betray and rule the rest of us in return for a
few extra saccharin tablets;

*That Gilligan represents Everyman, who, at the hands of the powerful
surrounding him on the Desert Isle (obviously a metaphor for planet Earth),
is reduced daily to a bumbling, impotent, pacified know-nothing, just waiting
to be trampled upon.

I think this is worthy of further discussion, but not openly!  We must not
let THEM know that we're aware of anything out of the ordinary.  See you
later during the Three-Minute Hate...




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From: B645ZAW@UTARLG.UTA.EDU (Stephen Tice)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Television: (The Gilligan's Island Story)
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:38:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep02.161405.23220@microsoft.com>, 
pierres@microsoft.com (Pierre Stromberg) forwards...
 
[ an explanation of the Gilligan's Isle parable, for an un-named 
  coworker, detailing the roles played by each of the characters
  and a reference about the setting....]
 
Which I could swear I read in MadMag as a kid, though the connection
with the SS Minnow remains unexplored. No doubt this will be of some
relief to the members of the Science, Space and Technology Committee
of the House ("The" SST), which presides over other projects such as
the Space Station Freedom, Space Shuttle Atlantis..., Superconducting
Supercollider, and similar SS() projects.
 
It seems that at the time of the magazine article a major project was
the Super Sonic Transport if anyone cares to track down the reference.
(Also see _The Peter Presciption_, re: Super Sonic Zeppelin, chp. 6)
 
>I think this is worthy of further discussion, but not openly!  We must 
>not let THEM know that we're aware of anything out of the ordinary...  
 
THEY likely won't care -- those without wealth are safely ignored -- 
such as anyone who's fixed on television.  
 
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From: lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard)
Subject: how do you start a religion
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:15:54 GMT

I've been thinking of starting a religion :-)

Does anyone know what the legal requirments are and what paper work
has to be filled out? (I'm in Mass)


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From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.alien.visitors,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: FILE: UFO OCTOBER SURPRISE - C.A.C. part 2/2
Keywords: NAZI WORLD TAKEOVER PLAN - NEW WORLD ORDER
Date: 31 Aug 92 23:36:42 GMT
Followup-To: alt.conspiracy
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Aug29.193917.15933@bilver.uucp>, dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen) writes:
> ----UFO NAZI OCTOBER SURPRISE - CAC part 2--------------------------------

>                  Ones of the Nazi's many propaganda posters
>       chose over as long a period of  time  as  they  desired,  thus,
>       this Doctor,  working  with  300  elite  scientists  on  these
>       projects, developed a  certain  drug  that  could  be  used  on
>       children, whereby severe pain  and  torture,  where  the  child
>       would  normally  black  out,  and   become   unconscious,   the
>       doctor could  administer  or  inject  the  drug  and  it  would
>       keep  the  child  from  blacking  out,  and  thus  the   doctor
>       could then inflict greater pain, going far beyond the thresh-
>       old  of  human  endurance,  which  in  turn  would  allow   the
>       mind of the child to become totally wiped out, a  total  blank
>       so that the child forgot identity,  forgot  personal  identity,
>       forgot even how to add or subtract or  carry  on  conversation.

Forgot how to punctuate, how to avoid run-on sentences, forgot even how
to communicate ideas coherently.

>               Flea or Fight.  That is the Question

I suspect a bath is the answer.

> It is
> important to you  all  to  review  what  Awareness  indicated  in  the
> "Gathering  Storm"  material,  in  regard  to  the  consequences   of
> your  soul,  should  you  willingly  accept  the  mark   of   the   Beast.
> The true nature of the Beast is revealed:  it  is  the  Reptoids  from
> Draco who will  attempt  to  enslave  mankind  and  our  Earth,  with
> the aid of the Nazi conspirators.

Tune in next week for our exciting conclusion.

> "A democracy cannot be both ignorant and free"  - Thomas Jefferson

And yet, by inspection, it's apparently happened.
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From: dabbott@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (Derek Abbott)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.conspiracy.jfk,sci.skeptic,misc.legal
Subject: Re: Marilyn Monroe
Date: 24 Aug 92 01:19:49 GMT
Organization: Electrical and Electronic Eng., University of Adelaide

In article <1992Aug21.084349.4203@fys.ruu.nl> sdevries@fys.ruu.nl (Sjoerd de Vries) writes:
>In <1992Aug21.015623.26998@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU> dabbott@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (Derek Abbott) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Aug19.211557.2331@CERIS.Purdue.EDU> jheath@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Jim Heath) writes:
>>>From article <1992Aug19.051348.8800@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU>, by dabbott@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (Derek Abbott):
>>>> I was just wondering if there is any news regarding public response
>>>> to the book & Bill Bixby documentary called the "Marilyn Files."
>>>>
>>>> The CIA and RFK were implicated in a cover up of her death/murder.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What is the likelyhood that a body exhumation or a Grand Jury hearing
>>>> will take place??
>>>
>>>Little and none and little just caught the last train for the
>>>coast.
>>>
>>>After 30 years, what could be determined and would there be much
>>>left of the body besides the hair and skeleton?
>
>>Them expensive polished wood coffins last a long time. Especially if the
>>ground is fairly dry. What's the winter weather in LA like?
>
>>An exhumation would establish whether the story of a snapped syringe needle
>>stuck under her left breast is true or not.
>
>As far as I know, MM wasn't burried at all. She rests in peace in one of
>those 'wall cemetries'.

Arrrrgh! You mean they cremated her?
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,talk.politics.misc
From: hallam@zeus02.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker)
Subject: Re: Rely on science not on purposeful environmental hysteria
Reply-To: Hallam@zeus02.desy.de
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 16:27:31 GMT

-In article <1992Aug26.160653.12333@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>, |>In article
<mqa4PB1w164w@cellar.org>, techie@cellar.org (William A Bacon) writes:

[garbage]

|>> Sources:1) Sherwood B Idso, PhD, Carbon Dioxide and global change, IBR Press
|>|>> Tempe, Arizona 1989
|>> 2) Access to Energy newsletter, Petr Beckman, PhD Boulder Colorado

The bit that gets me about the pseudnynonymous poster of this Bircher stuff is
the use of "Scientists Respond". The only support given is a couple of articles
in non scientific publications!


|>	4)  There are more CO2 resevoirs than just the atmosphere.  The oceans,
|>the biosphere, and the very rocks of the earth serve as CO2 resevoirs.  right
|>now the CO2 in the earth is being released into the atmosphere at a very high
|>rate, which in turn affects the other CO2 "sinks".  These do provide
|>something
|>of a buffering effect, but not a great deal is really known about their
|>interaction and how it relates to global warming.  

The only real conclusion that can be made is that we are probably increasing the
amount of CO2 in the atmosphere at a dangerously high rate. It is the rate that
is the problem, sharp changes in non linear feedback systems can cause
oscilations, particularly if there are aspects of positive feedback.

Global warming is a hotly disputed subject right now. The Birchers attempt to
hijack this debate to support their ludicrous conspiracy theory that all
environmentalists are engaged in a comunist plot to destroy capitalism is just
plain ludicrous. Still it's less odious than their attempts to persecutre Gays
and mount Mcarthyite witch hunts that they started with.


-

Phill Hallam-Baker
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From: hcollings@vax1.umkc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Pat Buchannan Convention Speech
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:33:42 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

In reference to Mr. Pat Buchannan's (sp?) speech at the National Republican
convention, though I did not see the complete speech there was a blurb on CNN
where he stated that "we have finally gotten rid of the left wingers in Russia
and now it is time to do the same here"  (not exact quote).  Anyone know what
this means or the method he might employ to accomplish this?  Is this the new
"World Order"?  Where will all the us leftists go?  Can we seek asylumn (sp?)
somewhere, say Tahiti or some other southsea island?
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: A Real-Life conspiracy...
Keywords: conspiracy, Fabrikant, Concordia, science
Date: 3 Sep 92 21:02:19 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <cburke.715452542@yorku.ca> cburke@nexus.yorku.ca (Carolyn Burke) writes:
>geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks) writes:
>
>>In article <cburke.715365402@yorku.ca> cburke@nexus.yorku.ca (Carolyn Burke) writes:
>>>Read the releases of Dr. Fabrikant as posted by Dov Bai during the past
>>>week.  The Doctor has documented, fictionally or not, the evidenciary
>>>accounting of unversity and research fraud that lead him to last weeks
>>>multi-murders.  Fascinating reading!
>
>>It's also a good lesson in how the paranoid mind works.
>
>Are you so sure that the guy was merely paranoid?  He's seems so coherent
>and ableto justify his position.  Certainly not all people who see
>evidence that there is an active conspiracy somewhere are wrong.  The doctor
>was able to offer transcripts of other profs admitting that there was a 
>conspiracy-like atmosphere in the mech eng department of Concordia.  And
>Fabrikant was on the way to jail for trying to speak out about it.
>

Well, I don't know what you mean by "merely", but he certainly
seems paranoid.  Standing outside the chairman's office where
a meeting is being held (on him, of course) "looking at pictures
of old graduates" as was his custom?  Then he writes that they
were spying on him through the door.  All those in the meeting?
Also, his history of multiple lawsuits over damaged luggage from
the airlines, his insurance company over a car accident, his
bank over a few dollars of interest.  Quite typical for such people.
What this case shows you is how a very smart paranoid can link things
together pretty tightly and even convince outsiders that they are
right.  Of course there were problems at Concordia.  I've never been
in an institution where some of the stuff Fabrikant talks about
didn't occur, but his reaction to it was craziness.
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From: rogue@ccs.northeastern.edu (Free Radical)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: The Rapture!
Date: 2 Sep 92 09:23:20 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Comp. Sci. @ NU

There's a bunch of big (8 1/2 x 11) stickers being stuck on everything
in the Boston/Cambridge area that's too slow to get away.  Text follows.

	RA


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			Are You Ready for the

			       RAPTURE?

			  Jesus is coming on

			     Oct 28, 1992

                                                      1 Thessalonians 5 (16-18)
                                              For the Lord Himself will descend
                                             from heaven with a shout, with the
                                            voice of an archangel, and with the
                                        trumpet of God.  And the Dead of Christ
                                    will rise first.  Then we who are alive and
                                        remain shall be caught up together with
            [not shown - a big cross     them in the clouds to meet the Lord in
             with the word 'RAPTURE'                      the Air.  And thus we
             inside it]                                shall always be with the
                                                       Lord.  Therefore comfort
                                                               one another with
                                                                   these words.




                                                    MISSION FOR THE COMING DAYS
                                                 P.O. Box 146 * Derry, NH 03038

[on my copy at least, the address has been carefully blacked out, using 
what appears to be tar]
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From: mol@jyu.fi (Mika O. Latokartano)
Subject: Re: The Necronomicon and H.P. Lovecraft
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 11:27:35 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.111912.6051@jyu.fi> mol@jyu.fi (Mika O. Latokartano) writes:

>
>	Science-fiction writer L. Sprague de Camp (who published an excellent
>biography of Lovecraft in 1975) is said to have acquired an Arabic manuscript
>from Baghdad titled Al Azif.  The British occultist Robert Turner, after
>researching in the British Museum Library, claimed that the Alkindi work was
>known to the famous magician John Dee (1527-1608) who had a copy in cipher
>manuscript.  This book, known as Liber Logaeth, was recently examined by
>computer analysis, and so The Necronomicon : The Book of Dead Names has now
>been published, edited by George Hay, introduced by Colin Wilson, researched
>by Robert Turner and David Langford (Neville Spearman, U.K., 1978; Corgi
>paperback, 1980).
>
>	No doubt other recensions of The Necronomicon will be discovered in
>the course of time.  Meanwhile, librarians need no longer be embarressed by
>requests for this elusive work.
>
>(End of excerpt)
>---------------------------------
>
>  So, who knows what the true story is.  
>

   Just want to comment myself to present my own view on the matter...:)
   I believe the Necronomicon was only the product of the great literary mind
   of H.P. Lovecraft, and no such book actually exists.  Lovecraft created
   a unique world of mythos so bizarre and horrifying by cleverly mixing
   fact and fiction.  He's stories are just fantasy, products of his
   wonderfully imaginative mind.

	- Mika



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From: lpb@florida.swdc.stratus.com (Len Bucuvalas)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: INVASION!!!
Keywords: aliens,invasion,stollman is cia
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:43:28 GMT

Gary......you are CIA....I am accusing you directly of
propagating and implementing a massive disinformation campaign
designed DIRECTLY to induce a fear state in conspiracy
theorists such that they will be prompted .. thrugh fear...to
arm themselves and perhaps snap under the pressure causing
them to rampage similar to the Stockton Killer.

Gary...I am completely aware of the Tavistock Institute
philosophy, aware of NSC 68, Global 2000, and the think tank
in santa Barbera which is responsible for penning the
"spurious constitution" that will take the poriginal
document's place if this country allows it's corrupted
government to call a Constitutional Convention.

I've read enough of your trash and I will oppose you
regardless of where you publish, where you speak, on which
networks you publish on or which documents.

YOU are in the employ of the CIA....admit it. 

Len

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From: cldavies@nyx.cs.du.edu (cindy davies)
Subject: Re: LIBERAL INTOLERANCE
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	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 21:45:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.164406.11510@ncsu.edu> dsh@odin.ece.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
>
>Democrats HAVE to loose this election for two reasons: we need to rebuild
>the country, and the Democrats need to rebuild their party. 

HUH???  The Republicans have been in the White House for 18 of the last 
22 years.  You think four more year of bush/qualyeee will rebuild the 
country?  Hah.  Lets try something a little different.  A leader who has
balanced a budget.
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From: af052@yfn.ysu.edu (Richard A. Marshall)
Subject: Re: Marilyn Monroe
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 04:17:58 GMT


Yup.  Ashes.

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