HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rkf@wildrose.infoserv.com (Ray Fink)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Lurkers...
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 23:21:56 MDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Wild Rose Refugee Camp

Another reason for lurking, that I haven't seen anybody mention yet:

Some organizations have newsfeeds that are "for official purposes only",
and the existence of non-technical groups is tolerated under the
tacit agreement of "we don't post here".  I know of some companies
where read-only is standard even in technical groups.  (And no, I 
didn't say fascist or stone-age.  Nobody here but us chickens, boss!)
Given some companies' policies against use of company computers for
personal activities, even *reading* soc.singles might be a risk.

Lawyers can be a problem, too (heh, do I get the Understatement Award?).
When my employer's legal dept. found out about the Net, the price we
paid for continued Net access was an obnoxious 15-line disclaimer 
tacked on the end of all posts.  A major waste of bandwidth, and 
particularly obnoxious in a social discussion.  Life was so much
easier when we were UUCP outlaws :-)

Speaking for myself, I've been on the Net for six or seven years,
reading and occasionally posting in technical newsgroups.  I've been
lurking in soc.singles for about 3 years, and it wasn't till I got a 
private feed for my home system that I started posting here.

-- Ray
From: pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Open season on straight lines (was Bananas)
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:47:36 GMT
Organization: Trivializers R Us

In article <1992Aug28.140247.15277@news.acns.nwu.edu> drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max) writes:

>Boy have you got me pegged wrong.

So, Max, how should I have you pegged? A little to the left, perhaps?
You're gonna have to help if you want the job done right.

paul
From: pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Desperation Explained
Date: 4 Sep 92 00:22:36 GMT
Organization: Trivializers R Us

In article <1992Sep3.060123.17116@samba.oit.unc.edu> Bathsheba.Grossman@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Bathsheba Grossman) writes:
>But I don't approach such a rel. reasonably, because the rest of the social
>network has broken down: any intended has to cope with the whole package. 
>The last possibility, I came down on like a ton of bricks; exeunt with
>alarums.  I guess that will tend to go on happening.
>
>The solution: USENET.  There are so many of you (bless you all), and only the
>faintest of heart can be overloaded at 9600 bps.

Lots o' them out there, just try :-\

>Why not get a real social life, given a solid theoretical grounding in how
>they work?  The usual reasons.  Startup expenses.  I'm far enough along to
>want old friends, not the casual, hit-or-miss acquaintances they start out
>as.  Schedule trouble.  I'm into things that are not done with people; how
>otherwise?  Once bitten.  It never worked out before, or it didn't last,  
>and I am become like a bottle in the smoke.

But But But 
Sheba, you don't seem to unnastan' or if you do, you just like the
sense of head pounding against the wall. No single human being can
be the sole recipient of anyone else's other-human-being directed
intentions and activity. Take it from someone who's tried. It don't
work. If not firmly anchored, they slide away; if rooted in place
they bend, buckle or snap under the pressure, and if structurally
sound both of you fuse till white hot, then oxidize leaving mostly
slag. You're gonna hafta develop other outlets than whatever putative
sweetie (umm, maybe that's not the term to use for someone who would
be SO to you).
...
>it was so fine to feel that
>someone was on my side, in here with me, that I must try again.  I'm trying to
>change those emotionally monogamous habits, because inadequate is better than
>none, but it's uphill -- I'm a one-serial-port machine.  

It takes work, but as you know (and as other people on the net have
tried to explain ad infinitum to all comers and others) that's the
way it goes. And putting together a circle, tedious and annoying
though it may be in the early stages, is worth it, not merely for
the pride in craft when it fits right, and for relief from the chore
of periodically carting out the cindered husk of one's all-but-current
lover, but also for all kinds of serendip support that you wouldn't
think you could rely on.

OK, it must be the sugar.

paul   off to plan a dance party in Brooklyn
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: Re: The Dawn of Suckups (Was: Re: Bananas)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 01:10:03 GMT

>markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark) writes:
>>The best way to do a suckup big time is to ask around, find out the person's
>>real address or work address and then send them a bouquet or some other
>>suprise.

rock@medch.b17b.ingr.com (Chris Hudson) writes:
>I have to agree here.  Just receiving flowers out of the blue from an unknown
>person could be terrifying to some people.  Especially if they were received 
>at their home.  With the problem of "stalkers" nowdays, having a

I agree. That was _really_ BAD advice, Mark. Really really REALLY bad.

You've been around long enough to know better.
-- 
Kiran Wagle     <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>     (812) 335-0420
From: keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: How'd You Get Here?? (Was:Lurkers)
Date: 1 Sep 92 22:16:52 GMT
Organization: California-Nevada Methodist Homes

This is a very interesting thread.  It is quite interesting 
reading how some of the more famous and not-so-famous net
people got started on soc.singles.  However, I am most
anxious to read the life story of Angelwing.  Enquiring
minds want to know!!!
--Keith


Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: hays@TECHNET.NM.ORG (Larry 'Purple' Hays)
Subject: Re: Where the best posts come from
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 22:17:22 GMT
Organization: New Mexico Technet   Albuquerque, NM
Distribution: na
Reply-To: hays@TECHNET.NM.ORG

In article <1992Sep1.193918.12045@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
>In article <14405@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>>In article <gwjn7=j@lynx.unm.edu> hays@TECHNET.NM.ORG writes:
>>>
>>>Well, *I* think that it's pretty hard to beat that 'Purple hays' guy...
>>>He's really entertaining.
>>
>>Anyone that has the balls/gall/chutzpah/ability to suck up to himself 
>>deserves a perfect 10.0 on the suckup scale.
> 
>And the judge from chicago concurs.
>What precision. What flair. What ambidextrousity.

Well, Hell.  Nobody *ELSE* was gonna do it.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Larry 'Purple' Hays                                       hays@technet.nm.org

"I'm too sexy for your post, too sexy for your post, too sexy for most...
 I'm too sexy for your group, too sexy for your group, too sexy to dupe...
 I'm too sexy for your net, too sexy for your net,  toooo sexy, you bet..."

(I suppose I should apologize to 'Right Said Fred' at this point, but I
  just can't bring myself to do so, after all they've done to me...)
From: wjb@moscom.UUCP (Bill de Beaubien)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Powerful forces of nature conspire
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:06:31 GMT
Organization: Moscom Corp., Pittsford, NY
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Emma Williams (ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie) wrote:
: In <1992Aug27.104954.26803@uwm.edu> markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark) writes:
: 
: 
: >It was 60 in February and it doesn't snow much here anymore.
: 
: >And that's no joke.
: 
: 	No snow???  Well, that's another one crossed off my list 
: of places to live!

Try Northern Michigan.  Almost always get at least 300 inches / year.
-- 
"Bless me, Father; I ate a lizard."
"Was it an abstinence day, and was it artificially prepared?"
-------------------------------------------------------------
Bill de Beaubien / wjb@moscom.com 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: hi you all!!!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:57:08 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.164417.4271@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> smaus@nyx.cs.du.edu (Scott Maus) writes:
>
>Just thought I'd let all the women know that there is a lonely heart
>waiting for a name to be put on it!! Would love to hear from all you
>lonely ladies out there!! My interests include movies, reading, spending
>time together with that special person, and meeting and making new
>friends!!
>
>If you are interested and would like to communicate through the Postal
>System, email me at smaus@nyx.cs.du.edu and I'll give you my address and
>phone number to that special lady!!
>
>Sincerely,
>
>" Mystery Man "

Got any Mystery sisters?
james(p.p.p.l) dutton
Just trolling.

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams)
Subject: Re: The Dawn of Suckups (Was: Re: Bananas)
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 10:37:49 GMT

In <thurlow.715104029@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:

>In <1992Aug29.125914.18314@uwm.edu> markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark) writes:

>>Yes!  Ho. Ho.  Yes!  You too can be a recipient of a major suckup.  Just check
>>for my name on the package.  One of YOU, will receive a delivery in the mail
>>before the end of the month.  Yes!  Ho. Ho.

>Will it come with a custom form letter direct from Las Vegas?  :-)

>(Yo, Emma!  How was that?)

	The earth moved this time! :-) 


Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Kiran Wagle
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:01:19 GMT

In article <386@asylum.UUCP> pbreton@asylum.UUCP (Peter Breton) writes:
>In article <1992Aug24.232723.26512@fid.morgan.com> sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug24.035919.6460@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
>>oldman@coos.dartmouth.edu (Prakash Das) writes:
>>>
>>> kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:
>>>>
>>>But that's exactly it! Your posts very often read like a manual
>>>written as a law text. If you haven't been everywhere, perhaps
>>>you should learn to sound less certain. You can opine on various
>>>topics as you want, but please make opinions sound like, well,
>>>opinions and not like the gospel. That is irritating to say the least.
>>
>>If you don't like the way his postings read, perhaps you shouldn't
>>read them?
>
>  This is, in my opinion, bullshit.net.political.correctness. No one
>disputes Kiran's write to post whatever he wants to (as he, in fact,
>does). Don't presume, then, to tell Prakash that he can't post that
>Kiran's posts irritate him. It's *just* as legitimate. Or perhaps Mr.
>Prakash is being given a hard time because he's not an old crony??

}}}} [something]
}}} You can't write that.
}} You can't write that he can't write that.
} You can't write ... that.
This is getting silly.

I never told Prakash that he can't post what he wants, I pointed out
that he's wrong in what he posts.

>>At least Kiran uses proper grammar.  Perhaps that's what you're
>>objecting to?
>
>  This is, quite bluntly, nit-picking. Prakash's posts were perfectly
>lucid.

No, this is a mild singeing.  I prefer the tone of Kiran's posts to
that of Prakash's, and I gave one reason why.

>  This is exactly the heart of the matter. What all this advice
>basically boils down to is: Don't rock the boat. Fiddlesticks, say I.
>"If you don't like my stuff, don't read it" ISN'T VALID. That's a
>worthy attitude to take with regard to censorship, but this ISN"T
>CENSORSHIP, because NO ONE is saying Kiran shouldn't post, it's a
>criticism of style! What if Prakash WANTS to read his posts and ALSO
>bitch about them publicly? It's his damn right to do so!!!

Don't I have the exact same right with respect to Prakash's posts?

>>If reading this newsgroup upsets you, perhaps you should find another
>>hobby.
>
>  (See above comment) 

>   Now why in hell did that get everyone so riled? Who out there is
>actually liscensed to give out advice, anyway?

I am.  There's a copy of the license in Washington.  You've
undoubtedly seen it many times; it begins "Congress shall make no
law..."

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Oh, no! Statistics! Run!! :-)
Date: 25 Aug 92 16:57:42 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Aug24.180946.10319@walter.cray.com> cfg@cray.com (Cindy Glass) writes:
|Does a Lotus fit your lifestyle John?  Would you be 'spending thousands
|of dollars for something a small portion of the female population might
|like'??  Or, would it be to fulfill a lifetime dream??  If it is for
|the dream rather than to please someone else - *GO FOR IT*!!!!

That was my point.  Actually a Lotus would require more maintenance than
I'd prefer to do.  Now if I could find an older Porsche 911S all I would 
need is a Range Rover and I'd be happy.  Actually, when I was married I
had something similar.  I had a Toyota 4runner and my ex had a 944.  My
ex got the Porsche and the 4runner got stolen.  Since I do a lot of snow
skiing in the winter and like to go into the backcountry in the Sierras 
during the summer, a 4WD vehicle is almost a necessity for my lifestyle.


-- 
+============================================================================++
| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
+============================================================================++
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Ring for sale (The ballad of a Guy & Girl)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 17:37:26 GMT

In article <4132@moscom.UUCP> wjb@moscom.UUCP (Bill de Beaubien) writes:
>nastasi@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (joseph.l.nastasi) writes:
>>The price paid for the ring and the new mount were $1600 and $800
>>for a total of $2400.  I am willing to have the ring appraised
>>for serious buyers.  I was offer $800 over the counter at two
>>local jewelers.  I am looking for the best offer in about a 
>>week's time over $1200.  I will work with someone out of state
>>as long as it's a serious buyer.
>
>10 bucks, and that's my final offer.

Every once in a while, I scan through the classified ads looking for 
interesting things that I don't own and I occasionally check the "for
sale or trade" section.  Now, most ads in this particular section tend
to read like "1971 pickup truck; will trade for guns" or "pool table,
perfect condition; will trade for guns" with firearms serving as the
principal units of currency.  My favorite, though, was "Engagement 
ring, appraised at <somethingorother>; will trade for guns."

Trygve
From: mike.mcaulay@spacebbs.com (Mike Mcaulay)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: RE: WHERE THE BEST POSTS
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:14:00 GMT
Reply-To: mike.mcaulay@spacebbs.com (Mike Mcaulay)
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193

barry@netcom.com writes:

-> Sheba's the best poster in the newsgroup (though she doesn't post
-> enough).

Here here!  Flash and finesse.  Her posts make my toes tingle.

There are many strong posters here on soc.singles -- a lot more than
any other group I've looked into and I've trekked rather extensively
through the net.hinterlands.

M.
                                         
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: schock@flip.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Craig-Richard Schock)
Subject: Re: Las Vegas
Reply-To: schock@flip.cpsc.ucalgary.ca
Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:38:35 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.212538.27393@zooid.guild.org> Ross Ridge  
<ross@zooid.guild.org> writes:
> Bah, I'd take Northern Ontario (or even any place north of Barrie), over
> the Rockies.  I've never understood the appeal of mountains like that,
> they're so dead and lifeless.

Which Rockies did you go to cause the ones I live by are wonderful! :-)

> Ross Ridge - The Great HTMU					     l/	 //

Craig
From: lana@magenta.corp.sgi.com (Lana Mountford)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Tallllll women....
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:35:44 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <14480@auspex-gw.auspex.com>, johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
|> 
|> Another nice about being with a woman that you are the same height as is
|> that your lips are both at the same altitude so that kiss on the first
|> date is a little less awkward.  Should things progress a bit other strategic
|> parts are within easy access while you are both are standing.  Imagine if
|> you will, a 6'3" man trying to grab the butt of a 5'1" woman without going
|> through major contortions.  It might be easier for the shorter person to
|> get to strategic parts but when you're both the same height things just
|> "fit" a little better.  We'll most things.
|> 

Sheesh!  Where *WERE* all you guys when I was a tall skinny high school kid
who was *constantly* made fun of because I was so tall??  I topped 5'7" in
6th grade, and ended up at 5'10" when I graduated (geez -- I just realized 
I've got another HS reunion coming up pretty soon -- 25 yrs).

John, I agree with your point about comparable heights providing a better
"fit."  I happen to prefer men who are 3"-5" taller than me, and I've gotten
a lot of flack from shorter guys who feel that I'm "discriminating" against
them. (I don't, really -- I've dated guys as short as 5'7".  I just *prefer*
guys who are taller.)  My father was 6'4" and my mother was 5'2" -- I often
wondered how  ... er ...  well, never mind.  (It's always a strange feeling
to think about parents actually "doing it," for me anyway.  Don't mind me,
it's Friday before a long weekend, I've got my guitar in the car to get
restrung, and I intend to spend the weekend relearning how to play it!)

<wandering off muttering to myself ..... >

-- 

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
|    /)                      | Lana Mountford    
|   / /  __    ___    __     | Silicon Graphics  
|__(_/__(__)\__/  )__(__)\__ | Mountain View, CA 
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: Commitment--The C-word?
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 08:25:04 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.024159.29664@dgbt.doc.ca> michele@dgbt.doc.ca (Michele Guillet) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.211554.5168@zooid.guild.org> ross@zooid.guild.org (Ross Ridge) writes:
>>michele@dgbt.doc.ca (Michele Guillet) writes:
>>
>>>I have been living alone since I can afford it and there are a lot of things
>>>I like about living alone. I have a house and a dog and have never been married
>>>or in a bad relationship.
>>
>>'Course the question is, have you even been in good relationship?
>
>I have been in good relationships not great but ok, I have trouble in making
>them last. I don't think I am very good at romantic relationships.
>I have very good at friendships cann't win at everything.

Same here (except I don't have a dog).  As I've become older, I find that I
prefer the single life more and more.  It seems far less aggravating.  I've
got lots of CDs plus the time to listen to them while reading books.  With
eight nieces and nephews I've got the statistical equivalent of four kids,
but someone else has to rear them.

-- Herb Huston


Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: Homesickness!
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 16:18:48 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <14348@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:

>Are these from the town of Nanaimo (east coast of Vancouver Island)?  I was
>there once.  Did I miss something by not getting a Nanaimo bar?

Yup.  They're a wonderful confection with three layers.  Something
like a brownie forms the bottom, a rich creamy filling goes on next,
and a top layer of pure chocolate forms the top.  They're rich and
sinful.  I'm pretty sure I don't have a recipe :-(

>Actually I did hit one Nanaimo bar.

Well, it's nice that you survived the experience :-)

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
Across the evening sky, all the birds are leaving
But how can they know it's time for them to go?		- Sandy Denny
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: cocoa@iat.holonet.net (little 'e')
Subject: dating as kids see it
Organization: The Chocolate Factory
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 02:36:11 GMT


I got this through the e-mail grapevine and was so amused I wanted to
share it.

>> What Do Most People Do on a Date??
>
>    "On the first date, they just tell each other lies, and
>     that usually gets them interested enough to go for a 
>     a second date."
> 			-Martin, 10

Smart kid huh?

Just me,

little 'e'

"Remember, everything I say is a lie.  Including that." -- Bedazzled



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Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.men,soc.women,soc.motss,soc.couples
From: barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry)
Subject: Re: Where the best posts come from
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 17:46:36 GMT
Organization: QQQCLC

Sheba's the best poster in the newsgroup (though she doesn't post
enough).

Hey, aahz, what's my suckup score on this one?

						Kayembee
From: diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Desperation (was Re: Commitment--The C-word?)
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:38:21 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <kiran.715589791@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:
>>Awww.  So, what city are you in? :-)
>
>*humph*  I said it first.  
>
>Guess I'll cancel the order for the flat of raspberries & the Valrhona 71%.

Kiran, don't be insulted!  I did say I was going to take you up on your
dinner offer... I've just been ridiculously busy trying to create a life
for myself here in a brand new city.  Don't cancel out on the raspberries,
puhleeze!

>Kiran Wagle     <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>     (812) 335-0420

				--Diamond
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.)
Subject: Re: Lurkers...
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 05:47:18 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Aug26.191952.21779@cs.hw.ac.uk> neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite) writes:
>In article <pban8+_@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
>>Did the regular people of this group realize that there are over 100,000
>>people who read this here very group?
>I've heard this 100,000 readers claim for the group mentioned before. Is
>there any reasonable proof for this or is it an educated net.guess ?????

Its an estimate, but a reasonably close one. Read news.groups for detailed
details, but, basically, there is a polling of pre-selected sites across
the net- the number of users who read news, who read each group, etc. This
number is extrapolated for the entire network (some 13,000+ sites).
The current number of readers for soc.singles is about 100,000, making it
about the 40th most popular (out of 1000-1500 groups) group. The number
of readers will go up dramatically, as it usually does, now that schools
are starting back into fall sessions....
r.