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From: janus@magnusson.uucp (Janus International Inc.)
Subject: Re: Series' beginnings (was something about 3 in 1 review)
Organization: Salt Lake City NeXT Users Group
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 18:28:18 GMT

In article <9204120533.AA22655@rachael.CFSMO.Honeywell.COM>  
ottoh3@CFSMO.Honeywell.COM (Otto Heuer #3) writes:
> On the other hand, at least 90% of the TOS episodes were better
> than WNMHGB.  From such a lame beginning, it was extremely hard
> for them to come up with a worse piece of dreck than the opener.
> The only ones that come to mind right now are "Charlie X",
> "The Doomsday Machine", and "And the Children Shall Leave."
> 
> 		--Otto "HACK-MAN" Heuer

Gosh. I thought that "The Doomsday Machine" was a hell of a good episode. I  
still get riled up when I watch Decker take command of the Enterprise and  
about kill off the crew, probably just as much as when I watch the Ent-D take  
on the Borg and rescue Picard in BOBW pt.II. I think that the only thing  
wrong with "The Doomsday Machine" was the paper-mache look of the  
planet-killer, and that was forgivable due to the state-of-the-art of special  
effects at the time. Hell, I'd like to see another, updated, "Doomsday  
Machine."

And I thought "Encounter at Farpoint" was one of the worst episodes of Trek,  
with a contrived premise and an unnecessary tie-in with McCoy that exposed  
the frantic attempt to pacify diehard TOS Trekkers. To say that 1/2 of TNG  
episodes were better and 1/2 were worse gives "EaF," in my opinion, far more  
credit than it deserves. Off the top of my head, and though I may be  
persuaded otherwise by cogent argument, the only episodes I considered worse  
than "EaF" were "The Game" and that "Troi-loses-her-powers" kludge. But  
charitably I can forgive "EaF" for some of its probs, as it was the  
introductory TNG episode.
From: benjamin@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Propaganda in "A Matter of Time"
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:22:57 GMT

In article <9204062319.aa09869@truffula.portal.com>, cls@truffula.portal.com (Cameron Spitzer) writes:
Lots and lots of alleged propoganda and a little misinformation deleted.

I think it is much more likely that instead of an attempt at propaganda,
this represents only the time-honored "writer who doesn't know what he's
talking about" which ST watchers get to put up with.  In the future, ST
will no doubt only consult with experts in the field of climatology, such
as Carl Sagan ;-)

But considering the sheer amount of speculation being put out on enviro
issues, and the general anti-industrial bent of Hollywood in general, such
a move by various industry groups to influence Hollywood would be a) expected
and b) of no practical use whatsoever.  The typical writer knows about as
much about industry as he knows about science i.e. not much.

David Benjamin
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From: sdavey@triton.unm.edu (Sean Davey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current,comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Announcing the Star Trek-TNG Episode Guide stack
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:18:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.77qj3hq
Distribution: world,public
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Apr7.232528.18784@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.221927.16236@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> scasterg@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stuart M Castergine) writes:
>>>Except that real computers have OFF switches.  When a Mac locks up (and they
>>>do this often!) it has to be unplugged.
>>
>>Ever hear of the reset button? Most Macs have them. I hate the ones
>>that don't -- the key combination that gives the same effect doesn't
>>always work.
>
>Some have them, some don't.  I work mostly with the newer ones, which have 
>neither switch nor reset button.  Ctrl-Cmd-trianglethingy usually doesn't 
>work, and the power cord must be disconnected.
>

this seems really silly.  every mac has an on off switch.  it's usually a
button in the back.  may not look like a switch, but it is.
	Sean
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From: steve@sep.Stanford.EDU (Steve Cole)
Subject: Re: the Star Trek-TNG Episode Guide stack (REALLY!)
Organization: Stanford Exploration Project
Distribution: world,public
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 21:17:52 GMT

This stack is really great. Thanks for putting it together.
I saw a play with Amanda McBroom, and the program listed ST:TNG
among her credits. Who did she play? No problem; go home, bring
up the stack, and use "Find".
For trivia fans, the answer follows this control-L.

She played the JAG officer (darn, now I can't remember her name,
Phillipa somebody) who had to decide whether or not to allow Data
to be disassembled in that great episode, "The Measure of a Man".
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From: s892024@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Richard A. Muirden [GA])
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Using Old trek stars on new trek holodeck!!!!!!!!
Date: 16 Apr 92 06:34:38 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

st185@jane.uh.edu (Roche, Robert F.) writes:

>Or better yet Can you imagine Riker talking tactics with an image of Kirk!

Yes...

Riker: "So do you go for the blondes or the redheads?"
Kirk: "All types. But I must say a blonde isn't too bad..."
Riker: "What is your best maneuver?"
Kirk: "Well...."

*grin*


>the possibilities are endless.  I am sure that Sulu would just love to appear
>on one of the Next Gen. shows....

Sulu slices up O'Brien with his sabre B-)

-richard

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From: asweeney@camelot.sw.stratus.com (Andrew Sweeney)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Cheers==TNG Crossovers
Date: 10 Apr 92 13:28:05 GMT
	<1992Mar29.220712.16229@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
	<1992Mar29.223150.23216@midway.uchicago.edu>
	<1992Mar30.005011.20923@Princeton.EDU>
	<1992Mar30.041448.440@seq.uncwil.edu>
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc., Marlboro, MA.
In-reply-to: session@seq.uncwil.edu's message of 30 Mar 92 04:14:48 GMT


>bskendig@rise.Princeton.EDU (Brian Kendig) writes:

>>Me, I'm just waiting for Norm and Cliff to make a cameo in
>>10-Forward...  ;)

>Heh, heh, yeah, and I'll bet that when Norm walks in, everyone will
>look in his direction and yell in unison, "NORM!"

	I would like to see a Cheers episode where some of the TNG or TOS
	are in Boston for a convention and they go to Cheers for a drink
	and of course the whole bar makes a big deal!
	Ya know, Cliff with tons of ST trivia or even have Cliff wearing a
	TNG uniform and have Stewart ball him out and storm out of the bar.


	Anyway there isn't a Cheers list to post it on maybe someone from NBC
	reads this net.

Andy
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From: hamilton@ecfa.jsc.nasa.gov (Jackie D. Hamilton)
Subject: Re: Announcing the Star Trek-TNG Episode Guide stack
Organization: NASA/JSC Engineering Computation Facility
Distribution: world,public
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 15:06:45 GMT


*sigh*  I came in late on this thread... and am not interested in the
useless flame war going on here...

Could someone please re-post or email me the location of the Hypercard
stack with the TNG episodes?  I would be most grateful.  :)

-j.
hamilton@smd.jsc.nasa.gov
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Subject: Re: preponderance of humanoids
From: jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com
Date: 16 Apr 92 12:35:47 GMT
Organization: Searle, Skokie, IL
Nntp-Posting-User: dmmatt

In article <odvOVo200WCTA19WF=@andrew.cmu.edu>, 
   "Thomas W. Pope" <tp1l+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>   Has a canon (or even non-canon) explanation been given for the
> plethora of humanoid, english speaking aliens in the Star Trek
> universe.  It seems that most of the aliens we meet look  like humans
> with funny faces (wrinkled noses, big ears, etc...)  They also have an
> annoying tendency to speak perfect english with a slight Midwestern
> accent...  
>   Is there a reasonable explanation for this, or is it just a matter
> of cost effectiveness?  
> 

FLAME ATTRACTION WARNING

What he forgot to list is "... and can cross-breed with humans."
I'm so ever sorry somebody let Spock be half-vulcan, because it let the
bag open for absolutely idiotic biology to run rampant:  half Romulan, half
Klingon, half of each, a little more of another...

Probably this has been done to death on this discussion.
If I have violated anyones trust, I apologize.
Please don't e-mail to me to tell me I shouldn't bring this subject up.
I already regret it, but it had to be said.
From: eahu059@orion.oac.uci.edu (A. Stevenson)
Subject: Looking for uudecode...
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 15 Apr 92 01:39:56 GMT
Distribution: usa

 I intend to view the much-publicised pics of Troi on a Macintosh. However,
I do not know of the uudecode program. I am assuming it is something akin
to BinHex or the MacBinary formats that are frequently seen on the Mac ftp 
sites. If this is so, where can I ftp it? (I tried sumex-aim.stanford.edu,
but no luck.) Is uudecode simply another way of referring to BinHex/MacBinary?
I dunno. I just want to look at the GIFs.

Much thanks in advance,
Andrew Stevenson
eahu059@orion.oac.uci.edu
From: cseaman@sequent.com (Chris "No problemo" Seaman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current,comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Announcing the Star Trek-TNG Episode Guide stack
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:45:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Apr9.204515.6317
Distribution: world,public
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

davids@c3.lanl.gov (David Simmons) writes:

[ Reams of junk about Macs... ]

< Sheesh!  The power switch is listed in the manual.  Or don't you
< know how to read?

PLEASE!  Get this discussion OUT of this group!  I don't CARE
whether you (or anyone else) feels indignation when the Mac is
slammed, this is not the appropriate place to respond.  If you must
followup, then do so in one of the *.mac.* groups, or, better yet,
take the bloody discussion to e-mail.

Regards,
Chris

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From: jasonl@gagme.chi.il.us (Jason Lindquist)
Subject: Re: Intermix Columns on STII vs. TNG, STVI
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 23:25:48 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.164640.2020@neb.uucp> janus@magnusson.uucp (Janus International Inc.) writes:
>This may seem like a minor point, but I noticed that on STVI, the intermix  
>column was exactly like the one on TNG, which was that serial neon  
>flash-tube thing.

If you look closer, A LOT of the sets in STVI were redressed TNG sets!  The
transporter room is another prime offender.  I was somewhat annoyed that
Paramount did this.  They could've just dug up the old sets, couldn't they?

I liked the old intermix column, too.

>Now back to your regularly scheduled Usenet.
>
>Kris

Jason
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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Occurance of 18 in ST: TNG
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 00:32:44 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.231550.26671@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> mbrockma@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Matt Brockman) writes:
>>>>>Hey, in "Cause and Effect", it was *36* seconds to a particular critical
>>>>>event.  Twice 18.  :-)
>>>Yep--and look!  Adding up the digits in 4077 gives you...18!  :-)
>>Don't forget Deep Space Nine... Nine being half of 18. :^>
>And the normal compliment of "major" charatcters on the bridge
>is 6! 1/3 of 18!
NCC 1701 ---->  17 01  ---->  17 + 01 ----> 18 !!


-- 
   And thither came Conan, a thief, a reaver, a slayer, to tread the jeweled 
   thrones of the Earth beneath his sandaled feet.  --THE NEMEDIAN CHRONICLES 
hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu                                Gene Roddenberry 1921-1991

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From: rll1@kepler.unh.edu (Robert L Lamothe)
Subject: Re: And the Oscar goes to...Star Trek VI...
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:33:14 GMT

In article <92095.011602WITHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> WITHC@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:
>In article <1992Apr1.165346.13653@spool.cs.wisc.edu>,
>rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) says:
>>
>>In <1992Mar31.175030.6271@panix.com> jsblau@panix.com (Jonathan Blau) writes:
>>>NOT!
>>
>>>ST VI lost out to Terminator 2 in both categories in which it was
>>>nominated, Makeup and Sound Effects Editing, on last night's Academy
>>>Awards presentation.  Oh well.
>>
>>Doesn't surprise me.  As far as SFX and make-up go, Terminator 2 was a class
>>act.  And Trek VI, well, was not.  Pretty standard stuff, all told, I think.
>>
>>--
>>Michael Rawdon
>
>Well T2 had the morphing scenes which is technological , but that was done in
>
>Willow (The bird) morphing to a princess.  STVI used that morphing technique
>later after T2.  But I agree with everyone, the makeup is a plus!

	I think T2 deserved it,  even though the makeup for TUC was excellent
it was nothing we have never seen before and don't see weekly on TNG.  With all
the practice Paramount and crew have had at making Klingons it is hard to
imagine the Academy would be willing to give them an award for something they
do all the time.
						-Bob
From: tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch)
Subject: Re: Bizarre standards (was Re: Grading scales)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:46:43 GMT

kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes:
>In article <1992Apr10.012648.11509@cco.caltech.edu> tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes:
>>kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes:
>>>In article <1992Apr9.173030.27081@cco.caltech.edu> tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes:
>>>>kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes:

>>[whew!]

>Indeed. 

Yep.  (So how long will we keep THIS little cascade up?)

>>>>>Fine. I, however, *do* hold TNG to be A Towering Pinnacle of Television
>>>>>Drama (note I changed the phrase a bit, but the idea still holds I think.)
>>>>
>>>>In other words, you hold TNG to higher standards than the makers do.  It's
>>>>no wonder you disagree with them; you're demanding perfection.
>>
>>>Wait a sec, you're equating "higher standards than the TNG makers" to
>>>"perfection". That's a bit binary (no pun intended), don't you think?
>>
>>Look.  From the standpoint of any creative person worth his/her salt, 
>>saying "this is the goal I set for myself and the best I can do" is success,
>>pure and simple.  

>It may be so from the standpoint of said creative person, but I'm
>talking about success from *my* standpoint. And that the creator calls
>it a success doesn't make it a success for *me*. I find that an extreme 
>position which I disagree with. Are you willing to accept *any* goal a 
>creative person sets for himself and call it a success if he achieves that? 
>Did you consider Q-PID a success because it succeeded in giving Stewart 
>and Hettrick a chance to lipmash on screen? DISASTER was an attempt to 
>lampoon Irwin Allen and did pretty much that; I didn't hear you applauding. 

I see your point, but I think you're slightly misinterpreting mine.

On some scale, you're going to hit granularity and the "intent" goals
will fall flat.  I take it as the boundary between individual shows and
the series as a whole.  Thus, I think their stated goals for each individual
show are far less important than their stated goals *in general*.  (There's
also the question of whether I think those goals make any sense; the goal
of "bring in Stewart's girlfriend for a guest role" is one I'll disagree
with.)  

But on a larger scale, if their goals are X, Y, and Z, I think it doesn't
quite seem fair to take them to task for failing to do W.  There's room for
maneuvering, but it's liable to fall into the trap of "the only way this show
will satisfy me is for it to be some other show."

>The other point of contention is that I don't think they've done the
>best they can do regarding even their own stated goals, but it's old
>news that we disagree on that.

Aye.  It's also the stronger leg to stand on, IMO.

Tim Lynch
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From: tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch)
Subject: Re: more Kobiyashi
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 00:39:48 GMT

cortese@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese) writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.224459.6974@cco.caltech.edu> tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes:
>>cortese@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese) writes:
>>
>>>But, here, he was faced with a situation that he could do absolutely
>>>nothing about.  Spock was going to die, and he could do *nothing.*
>>>Here, he could only watch and feel the worst emotion possible for him --
>>>helplessness.
>>
>>That helplessness--namely, the "there's nothing I can do, and nothing I 
>>*could have* done" feeling--is precisely what I think the KM test is 
>>supposed to get across, and Kirk apparently didn't get it.

>It's almost impossible to get that feeling across deeply into one's
>bones until a personal loss is suffered.  No matter how graphic they
>make it, KM is still a simulation and all cadets know it.  

I can agree with that; deep, deep down, one can't really get it ingrained
until it's been experienced.  But that doesn't mean you should do everything
to avoid immersing yourself in as good a simulation as possible, IMHO.

Now if Kirk had said something like "It was just a simulation, and I knew it'd
never get across a *real* no-win scenario to me, so I didn't feel it was
relevant", I think he'd have a case. (I'd think he was wrong, but at least
it's a real stand.)  But "I don't like to lose" is refusing to accept the
terms of the game; and I think that illustrates a flaw.

Tim Lynch
From: cortese@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese)
Subject: Re: yet another Galaxy-class ship name
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:21:34 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.201116.618@en.ecn.purdue.edu> hayesd@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Daniel R Hayes) writes:
>In article <1992Apr4.030553.6652@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> cmeadows@isis.cs.du.edu (Christopher Meadows) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr02.185857.18301@CS.ORST.EDU> johnsos@prism.CS.ORST.EDU
>>(johnson scott andrew) writes:
>>>In article <29DA437A.27735@orion.oac.uci.edu> cortese@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu 
>>>
>>>U.S.S.  Ishtar????????????????
>>>
>>>Puh-leasse!   (even if the name comes from somewhere else, the movie sti
>>l 
>>> spoils it for me.)    
>>>
>>> /sj/
>>
>>
>>
>>Ishtar was the name of an ancient Babylonian (?) or other eastern deity.
>>At least, that is if A. Merrit had it corectly...(I'm referring to the 
>>pulp novel, _The_Ship_of_Ishtar_)...

Ishtar was a seriously important Sumerian/Babylonian type goddess who
was pretty much queen of everything and head-honcha.  There's some
really good poetry type stuff and songs written to her in the old
literature that stress her importance as Queen of Heaven, Mistress of
All, Celestial Goddess etc. etc. etc. 

>Yes, and isn't this where we get our word "Easter" since the festival for
>for Ishtar was celebrated in Spring (as is Easter)?
>

I had understood that this was from another old goddess names Eostre.  I
could be wrong; many of those old mythological names are cognate with
each other.

Regards,
Janis C.

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From: tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch)
Subject: Re: Kirk and the Kobayashi Maru (was Re: Locarno = Kirk)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:54:00 GMT

jasonl@gagme.chi.il.us (Jason Lindquist) writes:
>In article <1992Apr10.220351.29527@cco.caltech.edu> tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes:
>>kyle@uunet.uu.net (Kyle Jones) writes:

>>>Now if you're trying to say that taking the unaltered Kobiyashi
>>>Maru would have helped Kirk face the loss of Spock I think you're
>>>out of your mind.  
>>
>>I think it would have helped somewhat.  The shock would have been the same,
>>at least initially, but can you really see Kirk *that* dead-to-the-world
>>and "it's all just words" to David if he'd finally admitted *beforehand*
>>that the good guys don't always win?  

>I dunno.  I doubt that Kirk took the Kobayashi Maru only once.  

We know he didn't, in fact.

>think that the lesson to be learned from the test registered itself in Kirk's
>head, but he chose to ignore it, whether it's cockiness, hubris, recklessness,
>call it what you will.  He only came to terms with the truth attached to that
>lesson following Spock's death (The "I cheated death, and patted myself on the
>back" speech he gives to David in his quarters).

I completely agree.  Er...what were we disputing here?  :-)

Tim Lynch
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From: jasonl@gagme.chi.il.us (Jason Lindquist)
Subject: Re: Appearance/Lighting of Star Trek: TNG
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 02:39:11 GMT

In article <92101.140637NHT@psuvm.psu.edu> Windsor A. Morgan <NHT@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>
>I don't know if this has been discussed before, but I have noticed
>what seems to be a ... difference in the filming of Star Trek:TNG this
>season as opposed to early seasons...
> ...Things seem to be too dark; there seems
>to be a 'haze' over the picture (especially in 'dark' scenes).

I've noticed that, but has anyone ALSO noticed an annoying tendancy for the
AUDIO to drop out?  On occasion, the dialogue will drop, while the music and
sound effects (bridge noises, etc...) remain.  It might be my local station
(WPWR-TV 50, Chicago), but I'm not totally sure.


>'Verily, there be no leader as wise as the Vision!'
>                         Windsor Morgan (wmorgan@stsci.edu OR NHT@PSUVM.BITNET)
>                         Space Telescope Science Institute
>                         Baltimore, MD   21218


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                              |   --Construction worker in Chicago Loop
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From: cortese@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese)
Subject: Re: Why New jersey?
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:41:50 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.191104.1@zodiac.rutgers.edu> patel@zodiac.rutgers.edu writes:
>
>In article <7APR92.21583411@umbc2.umbc.edu>, noel@umbc2.umbc.edu writes:
>> 

[about Jersey] 

>> 
>> 3.  Will Data be going there in this seasons cliffhanger?
>> 
>Yes, the cliffhanger will take place in Jersey City, New Jersey.  They 
>will be filming in a dangerous area known as the Marion Projects. The plot
>revolves around Data being mugged by two men whereing masks. These two
>thugs are found to be none other than Kirk and Spock, who apparently
>got trapped in future earth.  They don't have a job and don't get welfare, so
>they have to resort to the 'old-earth' method of survival.  This is
>where the cliff-hanger comes in.
>

Nah.  Put him in Camden.

Regards,
Janis C.


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