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From: engp1222@nuscc.nus.sg (Big AL)
Subject: Re: *** DR DOS 6.0 NOW WINDOWS 3.1 COMPATIBLE ***
Keywords: DRDOS DR DOS WIN3.1 DRDOS6 DRDOS6.0 6.0 3.1 WIN WINDOWS WIN31
Reply-To: engp1222@nuscc.nus.sg
Organization: Dept of EE, National Uni of Singapore
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 05:36:21 GMT

In article <11APR199213523093@vms.huji.ac.il>, gilf@vms.huji.ac.il (GIL FREUND) writes:
> In article <SSJHBL3Y@dri.com>, btannen@dri.com (Bob Tannen) writes...
> >The Novell Desktop Systems Group (formerly Digital Research) is committed to
> >bringing you the very latest features for your DR DOS 6.0 operating system in
> >the form of free quarterly updates.  The Business Update Service for the month
> >of April includes all of the files necessary for Windows 3.1 support.  These
> >files and the information needed for Windows 3.1 support are AVAILABLE NOW!
> >The FULL update will be sent to registered users shortly.  To download the
> >Windows 3.1 specific files NOW call: 408-649-3443 (96/2400 N81) and for a
> >limited time only (to support the large volume of calls): 408-649-3516 (24/1200)
> >They will also be available on Compuserve (GO DRFORUM) shortly.
> >
> >
> I am currently using Windows 3.1 and DR-DOS 6.0 and I havn't noticed any
> problem. I also use QEMM 6.01, and 4DOS 4.0. Is there any specific danger?
> 
> Gil.
> 
> P.S. Will these upgrades be also availble through Internt routes? I am
> in Israel, and dailing to the US is an expensive bussiness.
> 
> Gil
The DrDos 6.0 update for windows 3.1 has been upload by some kind soul
to  tamsun.tamu.edu as pub/drdos/dr6win.zip. It updates 5 files, ie
ibmbios.com, ibmdos.com, emm386.sys, hidos.sys and sstordrv.sys.

Could sombody please upload the initial DrDos 6.0 that was sent to US
registered users last December somewhere? I am a registered user in
Singapore. I called Process (DR software support here) since December
and until now they said that they have no instruction/news of for
registered user here. I am really fed up with the kind of crap that they
gave. I really wish I have not gotten the original software. I could
have saved S$60 off the price of my PC without the original dos. The
leson here is : IT DOESNT PAY TO GET ORIGINAL IN SINGAPORE!

I would appreciate if somebody upload the December DrDos 6.0 update
somewhere. Or maybe send it to me and I'll pass post it to local board
here. You will do registered DrDos users in Singapore a great favour
:-)

Alan

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tuesday, 14 Apr 1992 08:21:29 EDT
From: Carl Fago <CDF1@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: $50 for an UPGRADE!!!!!

Considering the sales of Windows 3.1 I think the question should be phrased
a bit differently... "When are the _consumers_ going to realize they've
been had?"

Microsoft seems to be doing a good job in that they are making good money
on the "$10 patch" for $50.

 *-=Carl=-*  INTERNET - cdf1@psuvm.psu.edu    | Be wary of strong drink.     |
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From: gtj@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (Glenn T Jayaputera)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.windows.ms,comp.windows.ms.programmer
Subject: MS C/C++ v7 - need info
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:45:10 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: RMIT Department of Computer Science

Hi..
  I am thinking to buy MS C/C++ v7.  I would like to program in C++ and for
  windows apps.  I am wondering if MS C/C++ v7 contains EVERYTHING that one
  needs to build a windows program.
  Do I need to buy SDK again??
  What is the latest version of SDK?? v4 or v3.1?

many thanks in any kind of pointers


 _--_|\     Glenn Jayaputera
/      \    gtj@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au 
\_.--._/    Dept. of Computer Science, Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology 
      v     Melbourne, Australia 


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From: calb@edsi.plexus.COM (Calvin Bolwerk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.misc
Subject: Re: DR-DOS Installation HORRORS! HELP....
Keywords: dr-dos, hell, ...
Date: 13 Apr 92 10:10:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: edsi.1992Apr13.101026.13079
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI


When I first got my disks (3-1/2) my A drive was a 5-1/4.  I 
thought about using the assign command but then realized that as 
soon as I rebooted the assignment would be gone.  So, I was 
thinking that it would be a real hassle to move the cables.  I 
thought about requesting the 5-1/4 disks but really didn't want to 
wait.  I decided to swap the cables on the disk drives and run the 
BIOS setup during boot-up.  The whole process was rather simple 
and didn't take much time or effort.

What I am trying to say is, why don't you save yourself all the 
headaches with trying to get the correct files on the different 
floppies and just change the cables and BIOS setup?  I think that 
this would be MUCH easier!
From: barstad@plains.NoDak.edu (Dwayne Barstad)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Looking the 'BEST' software disk cache around...
Date: 16 Apr 92 02:19:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.16850
Distribution: usa
Organization: North Dakota State University, Fargo

Anyone out there have reasonable 'proof' of what cache might be the best...
I have tried several but haven't found one that really turns my crank.
  Thanks for any info...

Dwayne
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==  Computer Engineering (Student)                 barstad@plains (BITNET) ==
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From: briggs@progress.COM (Scott Briggs)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.windows.ms,comp.windows.ms.programmer
Subject: Re: MS C/C++ v7 - need info
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:03:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: progress.1992Apr14.140311.20551
Organization: Progress Software Corp.

dea@informix.com (Robert Dea) writes:

>In article <3535@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us> aki@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us writes:
>>
>>
>>The best part about MS C/C++ 7.0 is the UPGRADE PRICE.  $139.  I asked
>>Microsoft if they wanted a disk or a manual page;  the answer to which was NO.
>>According to the MS salesdroid all you need to do to certify an upgrade is to
>>sign a (postage paid) card and send it back to them.  Cool.  The Win<>OS/2
>>wars are making it cheaper for us regular guys to hack around the PC.
>>
>>Aki.
>>-- 
>>/  Phone: 408-662 9664 Fax: 662 9676  |  "Aki" pronounced: Ah-Key. I know  \ 
>>\  GENIE: A.KORHONEN  Home: /dev/nul  |  what I'm doing most of the time.  /


>They did not tell you that if you want printed documentation you need
>to come up with an additional $150.00. So if you add the two together
>it comes out to $279.00. Not such a good deal after all!!!!

I'm sorry, but your wrong, the $149 (US) upgrade includes ~25 lbs of
doc.  This includes, C++ Programmers Guide, C programmers guide, C++ Class
library reference, C Library Reference, C tutorial, C++ tutorial, a "Tools" book,
etc.

A lot of reading, and from what I've read, extremely well written.

Scott
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
From: jayb@cpqhou.compaq.com (Jay Brinkmeyer)
Subject: MAC apps on DOS? 
Organization: Compaq Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 17:14:25 GMT

  Are there any tools available that allow IBM compatible machines to 
run MAC applications under DOS?

Jay Brinkmeyer

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Subject: Re: Atari ST disks <----> IBM DOS disks ???
Reply-To: 70465.203@compuserve.com
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 05:05:09 GMT

CADS_COLE@galluk (Kevin Cole; Washington DC) writes:

>Greetings.

>I'm looking for software to either read and write IBM disks on an Atari 1040 ST
>or read and write Atari ST disks on an IBM PS/2.  Does any such product exist, 
>and, if so, could anyone here point me towards a source for such a product?

if you have a double-sided drive on the Atari, just format the disks on
a PC as normal 720k disks. The Atari will have *no* trouble with them.
If you have a single sided drive, the person with the PC needs to add
the following to their CONFIG.SYS (assuming the 3.5" drive is drive b:)

	device=driver.sys /d:1 /f:1 /h:1

This creates a "new" drive letter for the B: drive and tells the
system that it is a single sided 3.5 drive.

This all works because the Atari uses MS-DOS directory structures!
The only catch is that DOS requires the first sector after the index
hole to be sector 1. The Atari ignores the index hole. That's why
you need to format the disks on a PC...

I "converted" files to PC format for a friend with an Atari for 
years. His editor never complained about the disks with the manuscripts
on them...
-- 
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CIS: [70465,203]			 70465.203@compuserve.com
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
From: zlraa@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Ross Alford)
Subject: Quattro Pro 4.0 BPS spooler query
Summary: Can you make it spool to a RAMdisk?  If so, how?
Organization: James Cook University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 03:31:06 GMT


I just upgraded to Quattro Pro 4.0, which has several nice new features and
seems less prone to produce memory exceptions that crash Desqview.  It comes
with the BPS print spooler, which seems to be only very minimally documented
in the manual, though I'll admit that with about 900 pages of manuals, I
haven't read every page yet, nor do I expect to.  

By default, BPS creates a spool file in the Quattro Pro directory on the hard
disk.  It does this regardless of whether that is the logged directory when it
is run.  It also does not work to copy BPS.COM to another directory and run it
from there--it still uses the main \qpro directory on the hard disk for its
spool file.  I would like to create this file on a 3 meg RAM disk I normally
have available.  As it is, it takes about 1/2 to 2/3 as long to spool a
laserjet graph to disk as it would to just print it out and be done with it. 
If it was spooling to the RAM disk, it should be considerably faster.  I have
tried all sorts of things with command-line parameters that seemed likely
(none for this purpose are documented in the manual, at least under the
indexed entry for BPS), for example saying 'BPS D:\', 'BPS D:\SP0.SPL', 
'BPS /h' (to get help), etc, etc,... None of this has accomplished anything. 
Doing a string search through BPS.COM produces references to a SP2.HLP file or
something like that, which didn't come with my copy of qpro.

SO, does anyone know of a way to convince BPS to use some other directory for
the spool file?  

Thanks,
Ross
-- 
Ross A. Alford
Department of Zoology                      Internet: zlraa@marlin.jcu.edu.au
James Cook University                      Phone:    +61 77 81 4732
Townsville, Qld 4811 Australia
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
From: jknepley@isis.cs.du.edu (Ranseus (Jim Knepley))
Subject: Re: HOT NEWS! DOS 5.1 + STACKER....
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 18:20:20 GMT

In article <cee1.702675355@Isis.MsState.Edu> cee1@ra.msstate.edu (Charles Evans) writes:
>Microsoft has announced it will add stacker to its MS-DOS 5.1 which should
>be rolling out Sept/Oct 1992.
>
>They said, they are because that it 'runs so well with DOS 5.0'

They meant "Because Digital Research is kicking our ass at our own game."  :)

>... maybe they will also add little novelties like renaming directories..
   Hmm, that sounds familiar, ah yes, RENDIR in DRDOS 6.0

>... true moving of files
   Hmm, that sounds familiar, ah yes, REN in DRDOS 6.0 (like UNIX "mv")

>... change to any subdirectly without haveing to type a long path
   Hmm, DR DOS doesn't do that.  (yet)  

>... end the 640K barrier
   Oh, so DOS 5.1 will be protected mode?  Sorry, not gonna buy it.

>... [seems like DOS might be doing this just to catch up with DR-DOS 6.0
>     and its data compression on the fly.]
   Seems that way, doesn't it...

>... countless other things that DOS should have.. how about a REAL
>    ANSI.SYS driver
   Just what constitutes a "REAL" driver?  Every ANSI.SYS I've seen works
   fine.  I use Ziff Davis' because it can uninstall, but that's trivial...

>chuck

Chuck, I'm not attacking you or intending to flame you in any way.  Just
Microsoft.

Later,
  Jim
From: thomasg@epx.hscs.umn.edu (Thomas Gasser)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Windows 3.1 and Packet drivers
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:55:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: epx.thomasg.462
Organization: Department of Neurosurgery, University of Minnesota

Hello all in Windows 3.1 land
I have received my copy of Windows 3.1 :-).  My question has to do with the 
IPX.OBJ that comes with it.  
I am running on a Novell Netware 2.2 network using Ethernet cards and version
of the packet drivers.  Is there a way to make a new packet driver IPX with
this OBJ or has someone already done this.  I am currently using the PDIPX 
from INTEL.  When I set up Windows it told me that there are compatabilty 
problems with my version of IPX and 3.1.
Thanks alot for your help.
 

Thomas Gasser                                          
(612) 624-4427
Dept of Neurosurgery     
University of MN      
THOMASG@EPX.HSCS.UMN.EDU
From: UCSKJM@ucs.UWPLATT.EDU (KURT MILLER)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: random dot stereograms?
Date: 7 Apr 92 05:58:00 GMT


        I am looking for a program that can generate and output randomdot
stereograms on an msdos based system.  I've seen a demo for one, but I am
looking for an actual program.  Please mail me any info.  Thanks.
 
        =================================================================
        |  Kurt Miller                          UCSKJM@UCS.UWPLATT.EDU  |
        |      The Future is DIGITAL            UCSKJM@UWPLATT.BITNET   |
        |              University of Wisconsin Platteville              |
        =================================================================
From: gold@ilp.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Seeking Scheduling software
Date: 10 Apr 92 05:37:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: ilp.1992Apr10.003736.1
Organization: MIT Industrial Liaison Program

I am interested in obtaining "scheduling" database software for a 
small community college.  The "scheduling" database is to be used to 
schedule classes for the college.  The database software must be 
MSDOS compatible.  It also must be able to help schedule daily 
classes by tracking:
                        Teacher Availability
                        Required Courses
                        Classroom Space Availibility
                        Groups of Students by
                            Graduation Date (we have
                            one group starting every
                            1-1/2 months -- nine/year)

Preferably, the database should be written in something like dbase or 
Paradox or some other popular PC database package, although we would 
look at others too.  We would like to either purchase the source code 
with the software or the software must allow some customization.

IF ANYONE KNOWS of any companies that sell scheduling databases for 
schools (or hospitals), PLEASE let me know the company's name and 
phone so I can contact them for more information.

Thank you inadvance for your assistance.
		 - Mark Gold
		GOLD@ILP.MIT.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
From: jliddle@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Jean Liddle)
Subject: OS/2 2.0 (was Re: $50 for an UPGRADE!!!!!)
Summary: Superstore with OS/2?
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:56:27 GMT
Organization: Illinois State University

>
>Well, you *could* always say F*&^ Microsoft and pay $49 for an upgrade
>to a GUI that doesn't have that 640KB limit lurking at the bottom of
>it and somewhat hidden by the memory manager...:-) Just remember...
>IBM has been offering FREE upgrades from its OS/2 v 1.x to OS/2 2.0
>and you get an ENTIRE operating system thrown in! Not saying you
>should switch, just saying OS/2 looks like a *good* alternative to
>the Microsoft rut...(not to mention that it can run and pre-emptively
>multitask DOS, Windows and OS/2 programs at the same time...)
>

Just out of curiosity (I may upgrade to OS/2 but will _not_ upgrade to
windows 3.1), can Superstor, stacker, etc. be used with OS/2 - or are
there OS/2 versions of such disk compressors?  The idea of upgrading to
OS/2 is tempting, at least until I can get a machine that LINUX will run
on, but I'd hate to give up my disk compression!

Jean.
-- 
Jean Liddle
Computer Science, Illinois State University 
e-mail:  jliddle@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu
         jliddle@katya.acs.ilstu.edu
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From: kjb@calmasd.prime.com (Ken Brucker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.windows.ms
Subject: Address book software for Windows
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:18:55 GMT
Organization: Computervision - A Division of Prime Computer

I'm looking for a good shareware/freeware address book to run under Windows. 
Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Ken


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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tuesday, 14 Apr 1992 23:26:23 EDT
From: Carl Fago <CDF1@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: $50 for an UPGRADE!!!!!
 <92105.082129CDF1@psuvm.psu.edu> <1992Apr14.155205@IASTATE.EDU>

In article <1992Apr14.155205@IASTATE.EDU>, btd@IASTATE.EDU (Benjamin T Dehner)
says:

>In article <92105.082129CDF1@psuvm.psu.edu>, Carl Fago <CDF1@psuvm.psu.edu>
>writes:
>> Considering the sales of Windows 3.1 I think the question should be phrased
>> a bit differently... "When are the _consumers_ going to realize they've
>> been had?"

>        I think I was had.  I'm not impressed (with Win 3.1), and may start to
>seriously consider OS/2.  The only problem with that is that it is an IBM
>product, and they have a horrible track record where operating systems are
>concerned.  (How many failed RISCs?)

>Benjamin T. Dehner          Department of Physics and Astronomy

Amazingly, I am running Windows 3.0 on my 486 box and it doesn't do so bad
on the whole.  But then I have thrown a 486/33 with 200 meg HD and 8 meg ram
at it.  It should do better for the resources I give it.

But, the only reason I am using it is because it was free.  Bundled with the
machine (and no discoutnt if I told 'em to keep it.)  I'm getting 3.1 free
because I got my machine after 1 March.

As is said in the Pacific Northwest, "Free is a very good price!"  And I
wouldn't turn it down.  Otherwise I might be thinking OS2.  But, as Benjamin
mentioned, the IBM stigma is still there.  I still can't understand why
the university allows IBM to advertise to gullible students about the "great"
PS2 prices.  I got my machine for less than a comparable 386sx 16 Mhz PS2 at
student prices!  And I got a more stable machine!


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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
From: eletanjm@nuscc.nus.sg (Tan Jin Meng @ NUS)
Subject: REDUCING .EXE file size
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:11:19 GMT

Is there any application out there that will reduce an executable's file
size?

My application exe is ballooning in size.

HELP!!

ps. I am using MSC6.0


Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.misc
From: wentzel@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Kevin Wentzel)
Subject: Re: DR-DOS Installation HORRORS! HELP....
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:47:29 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories Palo Alto,CA
Keywords: dr-dos, hell, ...

Re: DR-DOS discs.  I tried just copying the discs from 3.5 to 5.25.  The
installation worked fine.

Kevin

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
From: jay@astro.as.utexas.edu (Jay Boisseau)
Subject: DJGPP and VOGLE
Organization: Univ. of Texas McDonald Observatory
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:36:34 GMT

I run DJGPP v1.05 on my 386sx notebook pc-clone. I have been trying to
install a graphics library call VOGLE, but I can't seem to get it to
work, even though it installs on RS6000s, Suns, and PCs. The problem is
this: the makefiles in VOGLE are set up to build a library called
VOGLE.LIB for Turbo-C or Microsoft C, and to build LIBVOGLE.A for Unix
systems. Well, DJGPP wants "unix-like" libraries, i.e. lib______.a, and
yet I can't seem to create such a library ON MY PC. (I have no problem
doing this on a Unix system.) Does anyone know how to do this? Alternatively,
does anyone know how to convert a library such as VOGLE.LIB to the form
LIBVOGLE.A on a pc?

Jay Boisseau
Astronomy Dept.
UT-Austin
From: jwl3885@zeus.tamu.edu (THIS SPACE FOR RENT)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: Re: HOT NEWS! DOS 5.1 + STACKER....
Date: 11 Apr 92 18:45:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr10.141839.10454@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, btf57346@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Bohr) writes...
>>>... end the 640K barrier
>>   Oh, so DOS 5.1 will be protected mode?  Sorry, not gonna buy it.
>I agree!!!!  How wants a protected mode os.  I have enought problems
>with that running Qemm, now the operating system would run like that TO!?

Try OS/2 2.0!





Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps
From: kevins@primitives.inslab.uky.edu (Kevin Solie)
Subject: Re: HOT NEWS! DOS 5.1 + STACKER....
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:42:05 GMT
X-Bytes: 

> 
> I agree!!!!  How wants a protected mode os.  I have enought problems
> with that running Qemm, now the operating system would run like that TO!?
> 
> No way.  Sorry
> 
> Byron
> -- 
> Question:  What's the fastest way       Internet:  btf57346@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
> 	   to run Windows?                         btf57346@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
> Answer:    Turn the computer off.                  Byron "Bohr" Faber

How else would you have a "real" operating system if not in protected mode?
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