HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: nelson@palmerc@abulafia.b21.ingr.com (Nelson Jordan)
Subject: Re: SHE LOVES YOU #1 ???
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 20:39:35 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.031700.10827@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> ostroy@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (Dan Ostroy ) writes:
>
>N. Jordan writes:
>>
>> I can give you #2 (from Billboard).
>>
>>RELEASE DATE  CHART PEAK  TITLE
>>------------  ----------  -----------------------------------------------------
>>  12-63           1       I Want To Hold Your Hand
>>   3-64           1       Can't Buy Me Love
>>   7-64           1       A Hard Day's Night
>>  11-64           1       I Feel Fine
>>
>
>Can it be that "SHE LOVES YOU" was not released as a single in 1964.???
>I have no real reference material at hand, and I am speaking only from personal
>memory, but I distinctly recall that SLY knocked IWTHYH out of the number one
>position in early spring of 64 and went on to set a record for consecutive
>weeks at #1 as well as being the monster-hit of the year.   (According to the
>1992 Hallmark Beatles calendar hanging on my wall, SLY hit #1 on March 21.)
>
>(Our European friends will recall that in the US, SLY was re-released after
>IWTHYH, the original release having flopped.)
>
>Maybe Billboard was sleeping ?   There were far more than 4 Beatles songs in
>the top 40 in 1964. 
>
>Or maybe 40-year-olds really can't remember.
>
 Don't worry, those brain cells are still working. Sorry I didn't clarify this,
but these are the Beatles GOLD singles. To qualify for a gold record, one has
to pay an application fee of $450. George Martin obviously didn't apply for 
gold for all of their #1 hits.


>
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Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: afcanav@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (VIC CANACCI)
Subject: Travelling Wilburys Vol IV??
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 14 Apr 1992 09:07 EST  

Hello all, I have heard that there is a CD called TW Vol IV, that I'm sure 
has alternatives/extras of leftovers/other cuts. Could someone either post 
or email me as to what is on this CD? Thanks, V

Also, I have heard that there is a live Eric Clapton/George 2-CD going 
around. If someone could post that, or post, I would also appreciate it.


Vic Canacci, Sverdrup Tech., NASA Lewis Cleveland
From: ehenry@hydra.unm.edu (Elizabeth Henry CIRT-IRC)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Eight Arms to Hold You
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:49:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.dprjjxq
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque





Joe
"All Together Now"
"
From: weiss@mott.seas.ucla.edu (Michael Weiss)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: SHAVED FISH
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:17:07 GMT
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles

In article <1992Apr7.103740.22430@actrix.gen.nz> ahoney@actrix.gen.nz (Allan Honey) writes:
>I've just noticed that SHAVED FISH and JOHN LENNON/PLASTIC ONO BAND have
>both just turned up in local (New Zealand) shops - on CD that is.
>Is this international or is it just EMI dumping in New Zealand???

I bought Shaved Fish about 9 months ago in West LA.  Love it!
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From: brennan@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Joseph Brennan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Lennon/McCartney
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:29:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: cunixf.1992Apr10.172941.27924
Reply-To: brennan@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Joseph Brennan)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Apr9.153851.4034@verifone.com> kent_f1@verifone.com writes:

>Speaking of songwriting pressure, that's where 'Only A Northern Song'
>came from.  They were one short and George wrote it just to fulfill 
>the contract... hence the title.  Not a great song, but still interesting
>and a good example of the very experimental stage they were into at the 
>time.

Speaking of myths, this is one of them.  See Lewisohn for the true story.

Joe Brennan
From: barry@varian.com (Barry Nesmith)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Ringo's upcoming tour
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:10:15 GMT
Organization: Varian Chromotography Systems

In article <1992Apr8.174529.2496@watdragon.waterloo.edu> kjmcrae@trillium.waterloo.edu (Who wants to know?!?) writes:


>Word is that BURTON CUMMINGS (ex-lead singer from the Guess Who) is also 
>included on the bill...

I don't think my last posting on this subject ever made it out of here.
Sorry if this is a repeat but Beatlefan magazine also reports that Jim
Keltner would also once again be in the band. Since he is now a part of
Little Village (they were on Rockline the other night,btw) I wonder how
real that will be. Also, Beatlefan says that Billy Preston *will* be in
the band. I wonder if he'll have the time what with all his other
activities of late...  :^)

Last year on the tour that didn't happen Keith Emerson was also supposed
to be in the band! (this was before the reformation of ELP so I doubt that
it will happen now) I think that would have been real interesting. Maybe 
it might have proven my earlier assertion that Abbey Road *did indeed*
have an influence on Progressive Rock. (albeit miniscule)   :^)

				Barry Nesmith
From: hs@cns.umist.ac.uk (Harold Somers)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Derek and Clive, a.k.a....
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:24:34 GMT
Organization: UMIST, Manchester, England.

In article <1992Apr3.234500.28648@leland.Stanford.EDU> raindrop@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nathaniel Michael Pearson) writes:
>Saki says that Derek and Clive were really Peter Cook and Dudley Moore...
>
>Isn't there another Beatles connection here?  I think Dudley Moore was one

Well I missed the beginning of this correspondence, but one OBVIOUS Beatles
connection with Pete and Dud is that John appeared (as a non-speaking
doorman) on one of their "Not Only ... But Also ..." TV shows. I remember it
well....
From: simmonsb@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Dazed and Confused)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Lennon/McCartney
Keywords: Get Bent.
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:39:01 GMT
Followup-To: suckmycock@where.ever.edu
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


>> In <1992Apr3.090946.14746@cc.uow.edu.au> u9236686@cc.uow.edu.au (Robert Carl Michael Svensson) writes:
>> 
>> >  But who was best? 


Andrew White was the best!
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From: Brian.A.Gordon@dartmouth.edu (Brian A. Gordon)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Hey Jude, the album
Date: 11 Apr 92 18:08:44 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

I was curious as to the history of this album, which I believe is
American-only?  It contains: 

Can't Buy Me Love               Hey Jude
I Should Have Known Better      Don't Let Me Down
Paperback Writer                Old Brown Shoe
Rain                            Ballad of John & Yoko
Lady Madonna
Revolution

Was it released during the time the Beatles were still together?  I
have a tendency to file it chronologically before Abbey Road, and I was
wondering if anyone out there in r.m.b-land had any insights.

Brian

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From: dennis@hpwrce.HP.COM (Dennis Alstrand)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: BeatleTrivia
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:00:10 GMT
Organization: the HP Mtn.View Resp. Cntr.


>
>      O.K.  Since you're all Beatle experts out there, answer this one:
>
>           How many holes does it take to fill the Albert Hall?

The interesting part about this is that Lennon DID mean how many 'assholes'
it takes to fill the Albert Hall.  The line is taken from an article in,
I believe, the London Daily Mail from 1967.  The article stated that there
was about one pot hole in Blackburn, Lancashire per person - or four thousand.

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-Dennis
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From: ehenry@hydra.unm.edu (Elizabeth Henry CIRT-IRC)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: test
Date: 11 Apr 92 02:37:51 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

this is a test





atest
From: steven@jaynes ( Steve Novak  #3000  x2110 )
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Whoa/hello it's me
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:29:25 GMT
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies

> = Deryl writes:

>Bah, humbug... I'm the only sucker on the net! :->

No way.  I just caught up with r.m.b. backlog today - I read it and
believed it.  It was the little touches like all the Britishisms
that nailed me ("scrum"?).

I'd already saved this "historic" posting, had *almost* written an
incredulous reply but didn't, then continued on through the next
postings where I realized my mistake.

Saki: we'll get you, we'll get you in the end.

I think I'll save it ANYway.  Great stuff.

>So, it's true what they say about New Zealand and all its sheep...

Hmmm...what is it they say, exactly?  Does it have to do with four
of fish and finger pie?

>Thanks, Saki for your mail message of consolation. 

Saki's a sweetheart that way.  

>I look at it this
>way..someone had to get sucked in, or it would'nt have been any fun..
>..right???!! (Please say yes... sigh..)

Try mention colorizing A Hard Day's Night - Bruce and everyone will
make you feel like the Dunce *and* the Heretic of the YEAR :-).

>And so I sign off, dunce of the week on the rmb..

Here, give it to moi for *this* week.



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From: kp@cc.uow.edu.au (Karen Pepper)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Beatles influence on REM?
Date: 9 Apr 92 02:38:38 GMT
Organization: University Of Wollongong

prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Dave) writes:

>Uhh... actually I remember reading once that Pete Buck (guitarist for
>R.E.M.) said that he HATED "Sgt. Pepper..."  I would say that both the
>Beatles and R.E.M. were heavily influenced by the Byrds, however.
>("If I Nedded Someone" aounds strickingly similar to the Byrds (earlier)
>release "The Bells Of Rhymny".  I think George admits this, too.)

...... and the Byrds have admitt their trademark jangly
guitar sound was originally inspired by the jangly guitar bit at 
the end of "A Hard Day's Night".

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Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Thursday, 16 Apr 1992 13:11:01 EDT
From: <BFANTLE@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject:    george at albert hall

What songs did George play lead on in the above performance?

barry
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: jpisano@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (joseph.pisano)
Subject: Re: Shared Vocals (was Re: Lennon/McCartney)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 02:14:15 GMT

In article <kub428INNgpf@news.bbn.com> rgranvil@vax.bbn.com (Robert A. Granville) writes:
>Well, nobody's mentioned "You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)". And
>doesn't the lead shift back and forth several times in "Magical
>Mystery Tour"?

Ones I can think of:

"Birthday": John sings "Yes we're going to a party party"
"Anytime at All": Paul sings echo line
"Little Child": Paul sings second "Oh yeah!" at end
"Hey Bulldog": Conversation at end (does that count?)
"Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill": shift from John to Yoko!!
"With a Little Help from My Friends": the question is sung alternately
                                      by Ringo and John/Paul (that's why it
                                      doesn't count as a backing vocal!)

That's all for now,
Joe
From: hartigse@fe521.cc.purdue.edu (Scott Hartig)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Shared Vocals (was Re: Lennon/McCartney)
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:41:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.44650
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Apr9.170841.27700@pellns.alleg.edu> mccombj@reis4.alleg.edu (Joseph McCombs) writes:
>In article <1992Apr9.150619.562@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>  
>rgp39716@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Rahul G. Patwari) writes:
>
>> In how many Beatles's songs was there a sharing of lead vocals, i.e. 
>> "A Day In The Life" where Paul get's to sing the middle section?  I  
>can't
>> think of any others (I only have _Help!_ and beyond, though).
>
>Let's see... Just off the top of my head:
>"I've Got a Feeling" (at least that last part...)
>
>Shoot!  I'm stumped on this one!
>Can anyone else out there help?
>

Well, John, Paul, and George all sang on "Sgt Pepper's Lonely
Hearts Club Band (reprise)".  I'm pretty sure that's it.
If you wanted to stretch it you could include "Revolution 9".
But I think we can leave that one off the list.  Also,  (although
it is not one song) the three song combo of "Mean Mr. Mustard",
"Polythene Pam", and "She Came in Through the Bathroom Window".
But that's probably stretching it too.  I'm thinking that there's
something on "Rubber Soul" as well.

_______________________________________________________

Scott E. Hartig
Purdue University Schools of Engineering
West Lafayette, IN


"The sum of the world's intelligence is a constant.....
                ....the population is growing"       

                        -H.L Mencken


GO HOOSIERS!!!!!

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From: chelle@cats.ucsc.edu (Mavourine Tesoro)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Beatles influence on REM?
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:58:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: darkstar.32304
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz


on a nostalgia kick for the past few days, i've been listening
fairly continuously to ``Rubber Soul.''  whatta great album!

anyway, i was noticing that some of the guitar riffs --
particularly on _If I Needed Someone_ -- sound particularly
REM-ish.  'anyone know if the guitarist in REM has ever
confessed to have come under the influence of the Beatles?

and here i always thought of REM as being *totally* original... ;-)

michelle
From: brennan@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Joseph Brennan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: STONES Rock N Roll Circus (was Re: Beatles and The Who)
Date: 6 Apr 92 04:36:21 GMT
Reply-To: brennan@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Joseph Brennan)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Apr3.034044.27041@cc.uow.edu.au> kp@cc.uow.edu.au (Karen Pepper) writes:

>Name-dropper.
>If you keep this up I shall be forced to tell the story about
>the time my grandmother wore Little Richard's pyjama top.

Unless my memory is really going, Karen, you're the one who told me
about your father selling the old family station wagon to the Bee
Gees' father in 1959?  And the best I can come up with is e-mail from
Shel Talmy...

>* Karen Pepper                  *                                     *
>* Moth Wrangler and Stylist     *  " Oh my God - the chips ! "        *
>*                               *      - The Reverend Edward          *
>* kp@wampyr.cc.uow.edu.au       *          Lambert-Carter & Reggie    *

Since the above is on my screen-- perhaps I should ask the question on
so many rmb minds these days, viz. who are The Rev Lambert-Carter and
Reggie?  Folks worth knowing about in the Northern Hemisphere, or am I
perhaps better off in my ignorance?  

Joe Brennan
From: knotts@hpl-opus.hpl.hp.com (Tom Knotts)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:16:57 GMT
Subject: Re: Moonlight sonata/Necause
Organization: HP Labs, High Speed Electronics Dept., Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles


>	I wonder where Beethoven took it from....

From the depths of his great genius, I would imagine.

Tom

Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: fanyl@vms2.iscs.nus.sg (FAN YENG LOON)
Subject: Re: SHAVED FISH
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: National University of Singapore Dept. of Computer Sc.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:09:00 GMT

>In article <1992Apr7.103740.22430@actrix.gen.nz>, ahoney@actrix.gen.nz (Allan Honey) writes...
>> 
>>I've just noticed that SHAVED FISH and JOHN LENNON/PLASTIC ONO BAND have
>>both just turned up in local (New Zealand) shops - on CD that is.
>> 
>>I thought SHAVED FISH was deleted years ago in favour of THE JOHN LENNON
>>COLLECTION!!
>> 
>>Is this international or is it just EMI dumping in New Zealand???
>> 
>>PS Both releases are from the UK.

I've gotten mine on US longpacks less than a year back.  

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"I've got blisters on my fingers!" - Ringo
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Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: lorne.murphy@rose.uucp (lorne murphy)
Subject: Genesis doing Beatls?
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:46:28 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.2)


Date Entered: 04-08-92 14:32
Has anyone heard Peter Gabriel's version of "Strawberry Fields Forever"
on the LP "All this and World War II"?


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From: nahas1@husc9.harvard.edu (Stephanie Nahas)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Hey Jude, the album
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:00:56 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Apr14.034748.14666@cs.mcgill.ca> timelord@cs.mcgill.ca (Jeffrey JACOBS) writes:
>In article <1992Apr11.180844.4670@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Brian.A.Gordon@dartmouth.edu (Brian A. Gordon) writes:
>>I was curious as to the history of this album, which I believe is
>>American-only?  It contains: 
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Funny, I bought mine in France, where it had been sitting around since
                                                                  ^^^^^
>1967, if you can believe it.  It was in fact printed by EMI in England.
^^^^^^
>>Can't Buy Me Love               Hey Jude
>>I Should Have Known Better      Don't Let Me Down
>>Paperback Writer                Old Brown Shoe
>>Rain                            Ballad of John & Yoko
>>Lady Madonna
>>Revolution
>>

WOW!! The Beatles really WERE ahead of their time! Releasing songs
before they were even recorded! :-)


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From: bad@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Holly 60's releases (was: Re: 50s versus 60s)
Date: 6 Apr 92 12:42:13 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering

In article <randall.702347375@woof> randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea) writes:
>bad@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes) writes:
>
>>What songs were release in the 60's?  Buddy was *well* established, and 
>>the material for which he is remembered was most definately released during
>>his lifetime.  
>
>Some of the posthumous releases were "Peggy Sue Got Married", "Brown
>Eyed Handsome Man", "Love Is Strange", "Slippin and Slidin", "Bo Diddley"
>and "That Makes It Tough".   Some were major hits in the UK.  For some
>reason, Holly was more popular in the UK than he was in the US.  He 
>certainly had a major influence on the Beatles.
>

Looking at the songs you've listed here, I think you've made the point
I was trying to make.  These songs are not the ones for which he is 
generally noted or remembered, at least in the US.  As saki already 
pointed out, Buddy's popularity in the UK was more of a Sixties thing.  
However, there is the famous story about John being broken up at Buddy's 
death, so even in 1959, there was at least *some* Buddy Holly influence
in England.  ESPECIALLY considering the fact that "That'll Be The Day" 
was the first record made by the Quarrymen!!  (Keeping in that OBC !! :-)

As far as Buddy Holly record recommedations, the best collection IMHO is
the 6 record set put out about 10 years ago on MCA.  It has a lot of VERY
early C&W stuff, as well as some live radio.  It also comes with a very
nice booklet with lots of pictures and good stuff.  Of course, my favorties
are my orginals on Coral, but those are getting hard to come by! :-)

Bruce


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From: shroymp@wkuvx1.bitnet (Mike Shroyer Western Kentucky University)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: "Because" rumor
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:15:34 CDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1992Apr6.162850.10000@cbnewsi.cb.att.com>, jpisano@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (joseph.pisano) writes:
> In article <1876@transfer.stratus.com> bad@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes) writes:
>>
>>It might be that John was *inspired* by the backwards (I heard upside down, 
>>but whatever it is) version of "Moonlight Sonata" and he is being modest 
>>about his actual "composing" part of it.
>>
> 
> 
> Actually, the chords in "Because" are different from
> those in "Moonlight Sonata."
> 
> 
> Because:
> 
> C#m C#m D#m7-5 G#7 A C#m A7/9 ...
> 
> Moonlight Sonata:
> 
> C#m G#7 C#m F#m/A B7 E ...
> 
> 
> I think the chords in Chopin's "Fantasie Impromptu are more like
> the ones in "Because" (the first few are exactly the same!):
> 
> Fantasie Impromptu:
> 
> C#m C#m D#m7-5 G#7 C#m C#m6 ...
> 
> 
> So, maybe Yoko was playing Chopin & John didn't realize what
> piece it was!  Unfortunately, the whole thing about playing
> the song backwards would trash this whole thing since the
> two pieces sound identical played forwards!
> 
> Joe

I don't think it was the chords that he was trying to copy as much the style.
'Because' has that arpeggeio beginning like Beethovans 'Moonlight Sonata'
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