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From: jmmannin@eos.ncsu.edu (James M Manning)
Subject: NFS from Novell to AIX 3.2.2
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:37:04 GMT

I'm trying to mount a Novell server's directory from rs6k running AIX 3.2.2
Any idea what's wrong?

I can ls the files, but try cat, cp, or anything else that actually accesses the file,
and the process locks.
I'm confused.  Also, do you know where I need to set perms at on either end?
the novell server is defined in /etc/hosts, though I prob. will need to define it elsewhere.
I tried man mount, but got confused.
Oh, well.
Thanks in advance for the help, fellow AIXers.
James Manning

Please mail to root@bas1.bas.ncsu.edu, ok?

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From: jgc@stc10.ctd.ornl.gov (Jack Craven)
Subject: using mksysb to backup remote systems
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 00:22:26 GMT

Instead of pushing mksysb data to a tape drive on a remote system I
used mksysb as a template mounting the filesystems on the system
with the tape drive then dumping those filesystems to the tape.

Are there disk blocks restore from the tape files that are written
before the filesystems?
Thanks - jgc@ornl.gov

Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: shair@barolo.cso.uiuc.edu (Bob Shair)
Subject: Re: tn3270 *into* rs/6000?
Reply-To: shair@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Champaign
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:30:07 GMT

csfed@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Frank E. Doss) writes:

>We currently have a need to permit users to connect to our rs/6000 using
>tn3270.  Is this practical/feasible?  What do I need to do to do this?
>

Are you SURE this is what you want to do?  It doesn't sound as if it would
have much application, except for running programs on the 6000 which 
expect 3270 datastreams.

CICS/6000 (available at the end of June) will offer this facility, for
that very reason.  What we're doing there is to provide a solicitor
which accepts telnet sessions (on a different port from the normal 
telnet port) and expects 3270s.  You could write something similar 
yourself, or perhaps use that of CICS when it becomes available (and
if you can justify a license).
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: mcguire@selway.umt.edu (Charles J McGuire)
Subject: tape copy without 2 drives
Organization: University of Montana
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:21:50 GMT

Is there any way to duplicate a tape (8mm -> 8mm)
without having the two drives attached to the same 
machine? I have 2 drives attached to different machines.

I need to duplicate the bootable 3.2.0 AIX distribution
tape and others.  

Thanks.

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From: merrick@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Tom Merrick)
Subject: Re: xlC++ Severe Compiler Error
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:02:22 GMT

In article <19930122.052714.669@almaden.ibm.com> kraemerf@franvm3.VNET.IBM.COM writes:
>.
>
>One of my customers (University of Kassel) send me the following
>small C++ program and complained that the xlC++ compiler does
>not work as it should be. He is running on AIX 3.2.3 level.
>
>Yes, I'm the proud owner of a C++ book, bought at Palo Alto
>in march 1991 - it's a nice looking book but I never touched
>more than the table of contents with my eyes, but my friends
>are very impressed.........
>
>So the question to the audience is, is this real good C++ style or
>is our comipler buggy.......
>
>
>> ////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>>
>> #include <iostream.h>
>> void main()
>> {
>>   double a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h;
>>   a = 0.0;
>>   b = 0.5;
>>   c = 1.0;
>>   d = 1.5;
>>   e = 1.0/2.0;
>>   f = +0.5;
>>   g = 5e-1;
>>   h = 1/2;      // this is no mistake, just a well known
>>                 // C trick for testing purposes
>>
>>   cout << "Variations for 1/2 (in C++):\n\n";
>>
>>   cout << " a = " << a << " should be 0.0 \n";
>>   cout << " b = " << b << " should be 0.5 \n";
>>   cout << " c = " << c << " should be 1.0 \n";
>>   cout << " d = " << d << " should be 1.5 \n";
>>   cout << " e = " << e << " should be 0.5 \n";
>>   cout << " f = " << f << " should be 0.5 \n";
>>   cout << " g = " << g << " should be 0.5 \n";
>>   cout << " h = " << h << " should be 0.0 (!)\n";
>>
>> } // main
>>
>> ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>>
>> That's the output:
>>
>> Variations for 1/2 (in C++):
>>
>>  a = 0 should be 0.0
>>  b = 0 should be 0.5
>>  c = 1 should be 1.0
>>  d = 1 should be 1.5
>>  e = 0.5 shoulbe d 0.5
>>  f = 0 should be 0.5
>>  g = 0.5 shoulbe d 0.5
>>  h = 0 should be 0.0 (!)
>>
>> ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>
>thanks for your comments
>
>-frank-
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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With xlC at level 1.1.2 running under aix 3.2.2 I got the following:
	Variations for 1/2 (in C++):
	
	 a = 0 should be 0.0 
	 b = 0.5 should be 0.5 
	 c = 1 should be 1.0 
	 d = 1.5 should be 1.5 
	 e = 0.5 should be 0.5 
	 f = 0.5 should be 0.5 
	 g = 0.5 should be 0.5 
	 h = 0 should be 0.0 (!)

Make sure that you are running the current xlC as the latest release came
out in late 92.

Tom Merrick
Ohio State University
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: tkevans@fallst (Tim Evans)
Subject: Re: NIS(YP) and AIX
Reply-To: tkevans@eplrx7.es.dupont.com
Organization: Tim Evans
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:23:02 GMT

kate@wavefront.wti.com (Kathy Samec) writes:

>I have heard that AIX 3.2 has some problems with NIS. What have any of you
>seen with regards to serving or as a client?

For one thing, the aliases map isn't supported.  There's a PTF that
purports to fix it, but it didn't work for my 3.2.x systems.  I
rdist a real /etc/aliases from my NIS master machine (a Sun).
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: curt@ekhadafi.austin.ibm.com (Curt Finch 903 2F021 curt@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com 512-838-2806)
Subject: Re: NFS File locking in AIX (bug)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:48:53 GMT
Organization: IBM AWD, Austin

>jer@stiatl.salestech.com (John Ramspott) writes:
>>We cannot
>>get file-locking working when two different processes are trying to
>>append to the file from two DIFFERENT machines via NFS. 

Here's what the NFS person who's worked on these problems said:

	You have to make sure you have two important fixes on the
	machines...
	ix27205  NFS NEEDS TO CHECK ATTRIBUTES OTW WHEN CHECKING A
		 LOCKED FILE
	ix25573  VNOCACHE writes should not write full pages                       

	If you are on a 3.2 version machine, you can get both in either
	one of these two PTF's:
	U405261
	U409759

	If you are using 3.1 machines, contact the service line and ask
	for 3.1 efixes for NFS locking apars listed above, or the
	upgrade level needed to obtain them.


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: stritzi@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Peer Stritzinger)
Subject: Printers and AIX
Keywords: aix printer
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:46:50 GMT

I'm trying to use the AIX queue from an lpd client (PC/TCP). The
printer is a DeskJet 500 or HP4M, the virtual printer a HPII.

Printing from WinWord and other programs, I only get junk on the printer.

Is there a device "parallel port" I can send data out unmodified for testing?
/dev/lp0 e.g. does NOT do this.

How can I stop the printer subsystem corrupting my output?

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: afx@muc.ibm.de (Andreas Siegert)
Subject: Re: Printers and AIX
Followup-To: comp.unix.aix
Keywords: aix printer
Reply-To: afx@ibm.de
Organization: IBM AIX Field Support Center, Munich
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 09:43:32 GMT

In article <stritzi.727656410@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE>, stritzi@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Peer Stritzinger) writes:
>I'm trying to use the AIX queue from an lpd client (PC/TCP). The
>printer is a DeskJet 500 or HP4M, the virtual printer a HPII.
>
>Printing from WinWord and other programs, I only get junk on the printer.
>
>Is there a device "parallel port" I can send data out unmodified for testing?
>/dev/lp0 e.g. does NOT do this.
>
>How can I stop the printer subsystem corrupting my output?

Peer,
use splp to set the lp0 device to passthrough. Looks like the passthrough
entry is ignored when configuring the device. splp will do it right,
but you have to call it each time you boot the machine.
And setting -dp on piobe in /etc/qconfig will tell the queue to keep its dirty 
fingers of the printed data.

cheers
afx

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: peppe@ipgaix.unipg.it (G. Vitillaro)
Subject: Re: Legalities of making PTFs available for ftp?
Organization: Universita' di Perugia
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:50:37 GMT

svpillay@.crs4.it (Kanthan Pillay) writes:


>Greetings

>What are the issues involved in my setting up a repository of AIX PTFs
>for anonymous ftp?

>Patches from other vendors (Sun, SGI) are available from archive sites.
>Does IBM have any objection to similar practice?


I completely agree with you and with the other IBM people here
about the fact that IBM should provide anon ftp distribution
of AIX/6000 PTFS and APARS, if this have not legal or economical
implications.

It is only my personal opinion, but maybe I may help to get IBM
attention on this topic.

The idea is that some non-IBM people here may get e-mail
about the fact that IBM should ship PTF via anon FTP (both
positive and negative please).

After a reasonable amount of time (30 days?), the same people
should summarize the answers and send the summary to this
group and the summary, with the complete file of answers,
to some IBM people. 

The summary may be posted to the IBM Internal AIX community,
and the complete answers file sent to the interested IBM people.

Using that way, we may be able to recall the IBM attention
about this fact (remember IBM is an abstraction, the important
thing is that IBM key people will be pointed on this problem
by a reasonable amount of customers).

I'm interested on opinions about this strategy (that is a
personal idea, not an IBM idea, neither related to my job
in IBM) both from non-IBM people and from IBM people reading
this post. 

For IBM people wishing to write me about that, my VNET ID
is <75819593 at ITHVM06>.

Thank for the attention, I hope this may help all of us,
Regards    Peppe
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Xref: sparky comp.unix.aix:13752 bit.listserv.aix-l:2133
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:40:20 CST
From: Prasad Ravi <U21709@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix,bit.listserv.aix-l
Subject:    Running Borland's PARADOX on pcsimulator

Hi,

Does anyone have any information on whether the PARADOX database
package can be run on the PC simulator (on the RS6000 320H with AIX v3.2.3)
How about other applications such as Windows, Borland C, and Foxpro?
Any information will be appreciated.

Prasad Ravi.
Email:  u21709@uicvm.cc.uic.edu
From: Mickey_Coggins@vnet.ibm.com
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 17:08:37 CET
Cc:   feats@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: Backups for RS/6000
Reply-To: Mickey_Coggins@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.1

In <11283@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> Steve Greenfield writes:
>I have no tape drive attached to my machine.  I can rdump to a RS/6000 in
>the machine room that has an 8mm tape drive /dev/rmt0.  But when you rdump
>you can only dump one filesystem at a time.  I would assume that you can
>piggyback/stack the filesystems on a tape but I don't know how to set this
>up and to use the tape to restore in case of an emergency.
>Are there any other possibilities that other RS/6000 users have implemented?
>
>Stephen L. Greenfield                     Bitnet:   FEATS@VTVM1
>Virginia Polytechnic Institute   ,/\      Internet: feats@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu

Here's a trick.   Create a named pipe on your system called /tmp/.fs.size
with the following command:   mknod p /tmp/.fs.size
This name is used because the mksysb script won't back up any files called
.fs.size (which is probably a bug, but let's not worry about it now).

Do the mksysb to this named pipe:   mksysb /tmp/.fs.size

Now, just use rsh to copy the data from the named pipe to your remote
machine with a command like this, all on one line:

dd if=/tmp/.fs.size ibs=10k obs=512 | rsh RemoteMachine "dd ibs=512 obs=10k
of=/dev/rmt0"      #this must be all on one line, obviously

Of course, this requires that you have rsh working, and that your tape
drive is set to a block size of 512 bytes.  (chdev -l rmt0 -a block_size=512)
You'll also need to create the 4 boot/install diskettes to use with this
tape.  Type egrep "bosboot|dskt" /usr/lpp/bos/README | tail -4 to find the
correct commands.

Pretty easy, huh?
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: mcguire@selway.umt.edu (Charles J McGuire)
Subject: color table problem
Organization: University of Montana
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:55:37 GMT

I have several 220's with GT-3 adaptors in them. They're
configured as diskfull machines. All of them were installed
from the same "template" tape I had made. They've been
running for several months now (3.2.2).

The problem: When starting X on one of the machines, the
colors are screwed up - that is blues are brownish, etc.
I ran lscolor at the hft on the troublesome machine and
the color table ordering is different than the others.
The rgb.txt files on all of the machines are identical.
The /usr/lpp/colormap files on all of the machines are
identical.

Info has descriptions on changing the colortable using
chcolor (or smit), but...

1. I can't find a way to determine where/which colortable
   the system(s) are currently using?

2. Because of 1, I can't figure out what changes to make
   or where.

3. Info seems to indicate that changes users make to the 
   table are temporary and reset on logout. I haven't
   found this to be the case. Changes don't seem to reset
   unless I reboot, and then they're back to their 
   original screwed up state.

Can anyone provide me with possible approaches to solving
this problem?

Thanks for any info.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: jochenr@neuro.informatik.uni-kassel.de (Jochen Ruhland)
Subject: Re: Printers and AIX
Keywords: aix printer
Organization: FG Neuronale Netzwerke - Uni Kassel
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:58:37 GMT

In article <stritzi.727656410@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE>, stritzi@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Peer Stritzinger) writes:
|> I'm trying to use the AIX queue from an lpd client (PC/TCP). The
|> printer is a DeskJet 500 or HP4M, the virtual printer a HPII.
|> 
|> Printing from WinWord and other programs, I only get junk on the printer.
|> 
|> Is there a device "parallel port" I can send data out unmodified for testing?
|> /dev/lp0 e.g. does NOT do this.
|> 
|> How can I stop the printer subsystem corrupting my output?
|> 
|> --
|> Peer Stritzinger
|> stritzi@physik.tu-muenchen.de

We are using the same config (Windows/PCTCP/HPDJ) without problems.
Look if you set the DOS LPR-prog to send the printfile as "binary"!
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From: mcbryde@navier.math.uh.edu (Jack Mcbryde)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: AIX Function Equivalent To VM's "RETRIEVE" Function
Date: 26 Jan 1993 16:11:46 GMT
Organization: UH Dept of Math
Distribution: na
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In article <93025.145117SYST8103@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca> Ron Wigmore <SYST8103@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca> writes:
>
>Is there a way of having AIX (or an xstation) put the entire contents
>of the command just entered back onto the command line *AND* then let
>me change it slightly.  It would have to allow for 'backspacing' and
>'forwardspacing' over the contents of the command line without having
>what is already there deleted or blanked out.

Well, as of this posting I've seen four responses of 'set -o vi'/'set -o emacs'.
These both work for ksh. Each requires nasty contortions to do simple things.

My favorite solution is to run tcsh (infinitely superior as a user interface:-).
Then you have a VMS-style line editor. You use the up/down cursor keys to scoll
through old commands, and the left/right keys to move around within a command.
None of this strange <esc> <was it the j or the k?> (and god forbid that you
hit a cursor key!) ...

jack
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From: A9000005@tscc.macarthur.uws.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: top command on aix?
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:41:36 GMT
Organization: University of Western Sydney, Macarthur

In article <01050810.om6677@mbeckman.mbeckman.com>
mbeckman@mbeckman.mbeckman.com (Mel Beckman) writes:
 
>
>
>In article <1993Jan26.141611.19688@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> (comp.unix.aix), jwang@sys.toronto.edu (Jingwen Wang) writes:
>>
>>    Is there a command similar to "top" on aix?  This command is useful to
>> find out which processes are consuming most of the cpu time.
>
>
>You can make an alias for the Korn shell to do this:
>
> alias top = '(ps u | head -1; ps aux | grep -v PID | sort +2r)'
 
Great idea!  Works well except for one problem.  I (AIX 3.1.5) find
that when a process has more that 9.9% CPU (ie 3 digits), the PID
and the % CPU become one field and hence, sort puts them at the bottom
of the list.  I pipe this to "head -23" so I only get the 23 most
hungry processes, this meant that I lost all the big ones!
 
I replaced the "sort +2r" with "sort +0.14r" to sort from column 14
on.  Column 14 is the first one after PID.
 
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From: mcbryde@navier.math.uh.edu (Jack Mcbryde)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: Experiences installing AIX 3.2.3
Date: 27 Jan 1993 17:07:24 GMT
Organization: UH Dept of Math
NNTP-Posting-Host: navier.math.uh.edu

In article <1k5fp5INNsf6@mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE> woks4000@mailszrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Wolfgang Ksoll) writes:
>In article <1k51igINNh9m@menudo.uh.edu> mcbryde@navier.math.uh.edu (Jack Mcbryde) writes:
>...
>>I would venture that the break point for one day falls about at a 530-530H.
>>If your machine is faster, you should be able to completely install and update
>>in in a day. If its slower it can take two. This, of course, get shaded for
>>how much you are installing. (HINT: *don't* choose all when it asks you what
>
>Thank you, Jack, for your informations. We installed some 200 systems in 1992
>at about 40 customer sites. My problem is that a regular installation 
>take too long. So we decided to create a bootable image to install new
>machines. This images is with AIX, AIXwindows and FORTRAN. All known and
>necessary patches are incorporated. This takes down the installation
>time to two hours on a desktop model and to 50 minutes on a 580.

This is what I do. I have a network install machine with each of the images
(dd'ed from the install tapes) on disk, and image backups for 3.2, 3.2.2,
3.2.3, and stripped versions of each. I choose the one that fits best
and then do any minor customizing. You could do something similar on tape.
I find it strange that it takes 2 hours on a desktop and 50 minutes on a 580,
though. In my experience it takes something on the order of 45 minutes
regardless of model (with the exception of 220's, which is another story
altogether). Are you using different media?

>Even preloaded machines are no progress because you have to install
>most of the software yourself from disk. This takes too long.
>
>In 1992 we saw five upgrades: 3.2.0, 3.2.1, 3.2.2., 3.2.3 base, 3.2.3 extended.
>In a worst case estimation this would mean on a desktop model 10 days downtime
>(not counting the necessary phone calls and additional downtimes for
>essential fixes like the qdaemon patch introduced with 3.2.3). This is not
>acceptable.

The worst case I have seen is the 220. If you are installing enough lpp's I
can see it taking as much as 3 days. (It seems like it took about 16 hours
straight the last time I did it from scratch - and it had AIX and X11, not
much else. The majority of the time was waiting for the ptfs to install and
rebuild the kernel many many times.) This doesn't include any fixes that
aren't on a distribution tape.

jack
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