HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sdoki@cs.WPI.EDU (Suresh Doki)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: bike for sale
Date: 13 Jan 1993 02:05:42 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, WPI
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Originator: sdoki@ivy



i am sorry about the previous post. it got mixed with some joke i
wanted to mail to a friend.

anywayS coming to the point, i have a bike for sale: 1989 suzuki
gs500e white with blue stripes, hardly ridden, with only 7000 miles on
it and is owned by an old lady. send me email if you are interested. i
would appreciate it if you kept this to yourself.

thanx in advance,

suresh
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bruce@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Bruce Krueger)
Subject: Re: More amusing BMW trivia... (christmas continues)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 02:20:45 GMT

chris@triage.UUCP (Wheres my 650TT2 Ducati) writes:
>"You mean like admitting to the fact that nothing in this world is more
>passionate, more soul stirring, more FUN over a twisty road than an Italian
>motorcycle?"
   *******
   try doing a thousand mile day on a japanese bike.  ..or, for that matter,
   going a thousand miles without needing a tuneup on a duc.  a fully loaded
   R60/5 was just fine on the blue ridge parkway (speaking of twisty roads),
   as well as a lot of stuff that made that look like an interstate in 
   west kansas.  also, I've got news for you:  you don't need a PD to go
   off-road on a beemer -- I've done the ski slope at alpine valley on the 
   same afore-mentioned fully loaded R60 (..granted, it was on the way down,
   but have you ever done moguls on a duc or RD?  I rather doubt it).

>"Yes. Yes, YES!  You have it, my son!"  This guy was truely excited.  I had
>passed the first step.  And I wasn't even trying.

>Understanding and truth can be terrible things.
   ******* ah, I see.  ..and I s'pose you have a monopoly on both?
   (you might learn when to apostropit's and when not to <e.g. the
   possessive form>, and it's "greeted."  PYN,A


>Christopher Perez - chris@triage.rain.com
>The List->  Ducatis: 650TT2, 500SL, 860GT
>	    Yamaha: RD400F (for sale - to make way for an NCR-replica Ducati)
   *******
   hey, chris -- I've got a *real* NCR for ya, you don't have to get a
   replica.  this one has real metal gears, two drawers, and a bell.
   you'll love it.  why, it's even lighter than any of my beemers, 
   though not as easy to pick up, and you'll need an awfully long
   extension cord -- it's electric.

   my list: '82 R65LS(main), '76 R90/6, '72 R60/5, '65 R60/2, '63 R50/2
   '62 R60/2...  well, at least that's most of the cycles.  then there
   are the fiat spyders, the VW microbuses (sliding and barn doors), 
   and the racing sloops....
   *plpplpplpppp*

   no, not a member of the BMWMOA, nor, for that matter, the DoD.
   who has the time?


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Subject: Re: I'm gonna git me that bra!
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 07:35:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.165118.24408@rd.hydro.on.ca> jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:
}He's neither offended nor surprised, and thinks that the charity
}thing is a good idea. Too bad he doesn't have net access, he's missing
}a lot of fun. Are there any spousal pairs on the net?

Lots of us. In fact, my wife and I "met" on the net when I was living
in NC and she was living in NJ. She doesn't ride (yet), but we did get
her her very own form-fitting RF-200 the other day and she's being
measured for custom chaps at Just Leathers tomorrow. Soon she'll at
least be a pillion queen.

}The highest bid I've seen is from Laz at $61. I'll continue watching.

$64 sounds like a nice even number to me -- I'll bid it.
-- 
Curtis Jackson			'91 Black Lab/Blue Heeler "Studley Doright"
cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com	'92 Collie/Golden "George"
DoD #721			'91 Hawk GT	'81 Maxim 650
"I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead." -- J. Buffett
From: tkpowell@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Terry Powell)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CBR600F2 dethroned by '93 ZX-6. Whine......whimper!
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:13:40 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc.

In article <645.2B4F9858@kennel.FIDONET.ORG> john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton) writes:
>
->A hair dryer and a little rubber cement thinner does just fine.
>
>

Say John, how about a report on the Super ZX11 from Hell?  
-- 

Terry Powell       Email - Terry.K.Powell@tek.com       Portland,Or

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: Lowering the top revs of BMW R100RT - can it be done?
Keywords: BMW
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 04:12:08 GMT

In article <9300813.5870@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> mtc@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Michael Trevor CUTTER) writes:
>Gudday All,
>	I am thinking of changing the gear ratios on my BMW R100RT. It revs
>3650 at 100k and 3000 at 80k in 5th gear, and 3250 at 80k in 4th. I think there
>is plenty of power there to drop the revs to 3000 at 100 in top, maybe keeping
>4th where it is to retain acceleration for overtaking. The revs diff between
>4th and 5th hardly seems worth it. I never go over 160 (on rare occasions), and
>prefer cruising at 80-90 to maximise fuel economy (18k/l on my last tour) (or
>5.5l/100k for everyone else :-). Will it work? Is it possible? Is it worth the
>fuel savings? 
>
>Michael Cutter                        email: mtc@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au


You need to post the current gear ratio in your rear axle, that will let 
people figure if they can find you a better rear ratio.  The current ratio
is stamped on the outside of the rear drive assembly, most probably on the
top of the middle part.  You will see the ring and pinion gear teeth numbers
something like 11/33; the US ratios are:

		R80/7	R80/7*	R100T	R100S	R100RT	R100RS

Std  # teeth	10:32	11:37	11:33	11:32	11:33	11:33 
Std  Ratio	1:3.2	1:3.36	1:3.0	1:2.91	1:3.0	1:3.0

Spec # teeth	11:37	11:37	11:32	11:33	11:32	11:32
Spec Ratio	1:3.36	1:3.36	1:2.91	1:3.0	1:2.91	1:2.91

* Low compression version



The internal 5 speeds are probably these ratios:

	Standard		Competition (special order only) 
1st	4.4:1			3.38:1
2nd	2.86:1			2.43:1
3rd	2.07:1			1.93:1
4th	1.67:1			1.67:1
5th	1.50:1			1.50:1


From this, you can see that changing the internal rations won't slow the
engine down in 5th gear.  If you now have an 11:33 (1:3.0)  you can change 
to a 11:32 (1:2.91); you'll have to calculate out what that will do to 
your engine speed percentage wise.  Be aware, that there were different 
speedometer heads for each different read gear ratio!  :-(  If you don't 
also change the speedo, it will read wrong by whatever % you made a change ...

It is possible that some of the specialty hot rod shops have longer gears,
I know Luftmeister does for the K bikes - so when you put their turbo kit
on, you can get more MPH before you hit redline in 5th gear!!


Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
               BMW K1100-LT, R80-GS/PD, R27, Triumph TR6
                           Columbus, Ohio

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: Charlie!!!!!!!!
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 14:41:08 GMT

In article <1790@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) writes:
>
>
>	Thank you, thankyou, thank you!!!!! Charlie....or maybe
>	Chuck?>???
>
>
>
>		I have the Damn FAQ ok?
>
>					Ryan
>					DoD# 0780

Wonderful!  Now that you have an official DoD membership, you do realize,
don't you that you are required to join the rest of us net-monitors in
watching for some hapless newbie who ask questions about the DoD?

You did keep carefull notes of the process, did you not?

:-)


Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
               BMW K1100-LT, R80-GS/PD, R27, Triumph TR6
                           Columbus, Ohio


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tony@morgan.demon.co.uk (Tony Kidson)
Subject: Re: New Fund/Conscience-Raising Idea 
Distribution: world
Organization: Not much.
Reply-To: tony@morgan.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.18)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 23:51:02 +0000


In article <726439730snx@swamp.demon.co.uk> Neil@swamp.demon.co.uk writes:

>In article <1ictqcINNb58@mirror.digex.com> jimb@access.digex.com writes:
>
>>WARNING:  Health Hazard
>>Climbing on or touching this motorcycle can result in serious
>>bodily injury including, but not limited to, broken bones, lost
>>teeth, fractures, contusions, lacerations, and, in some cases,
>>death.
>
>PRINT IT! PRINT IT! I WANT ONE!!!!
>
>   Neil

Hear Hear! Me too, Do you think we could get a UK Version made. Could even 
Sell.


Tony



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From: jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CBR600F2 dethroned by '93 ZX-6. Whine......whimper!
Date: 11 Jan 1993 15:03:10 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, robinson@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU (Michael Robinson) says:

>In article <1993Jan9.131137.20938@osf.org> jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris) writes:
>>I don't mind the bloated look, but that stooopud NINJA decal! How can anybody 
>>over 25 years of age feel like an adult riding a bike called NINJA?  (Oh I 
>>forgot, the target market isn't adults.....)
>
>Funny, I was in the grocery store just last night and noticed a review of
>the new ZX11-D.  I swear the first thought through my mind was, "nice looking
>bike...I wonder how hard it is to get that juvenile Ninja decal off."
>
>From an engineering, ergonomics standpoint, you would think the ZX11 is 
>supposed to fit in the "sport-touring" niche.  Is it really the case that
>they are consciously marketing the ZX11 as some sort of adolescent
>penis-extender?  Or are they really that clueless about the tastes of the
>"not ready for Goldwings" crowd?

My guess is that they're just plain clueless.  I'm not yet 25 and I still
don't want some stupid Neon "Ninja" sticker plastered on the side of my
MC.  A simple and small "DUCATI" will do.

-- 
-------------------->DarkMan<--------------DoD #650-----------------------
BSME no longer seeking employment: Found it.  Who would have ever though that
I could get paid to live a childhood dream?
From: leavitt@cs.umd.edu (Mr. Bill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Honda CX500 Turbo
Date: 8 Jan 93 04:05:13 GMT
Organization: The Cafe at the Edge of the Universe

achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach) writes:
JA>There was a very nice, low mileage original Honda CX turbo sold at the 
JA>auction when I bought the Morini. I thought it was a 650. It went for 
JA>around $1100.

brady_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Brady) replies:
PB>It may have been a 650. Honda did have a CX650 Turbo for at least on[e]
PB>year in the States.

The CX650s, turbo and non-turbo, were sold in the US for precisely one year
(expect for the samples that took the dealers multiple years for to unload).
I think it was 1983.  The CX500 turbos were made for two years, maybe three.

PB>I think that it had more of a cafe fairing than a full engine-coverer.

The fairing didn't cover the entire engine, a la modern sportbikes.  It
would be difficult with the transverse-V jugs.  Other than the missing
side panels around the engine, the bodywork didn't look too far removed
from what you see on a lot of today's bikes, IMHO.

Neat bike, but I'd suggest a more capable (ie: faster/quicker/smoother)
non-turbo bike than a mid-range bike with a steroid injector.  Turbos
are too quirky (_very_ uneven power flow) and too fragile as an everyday
ride.  Might make a nice trophy bike to roll out a couple times a year
for show, but not much more than that.  Still, I wouldn't mind having one
to sit next to the CBX.  "The Garage of Honda Experiments Run Amuck," I
could call it.  Might give some competition to Groucho's Desmodrome.  8^)

YMMV.

Mr. Bill
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| UUCP: ...uunet!mimsy!leavitt | AMA 0313707 | ==82 Suzuki GS850GZ Suzibago== |
 \ Domain: leavitt@cs.umd.edu / \  DoD 224  / \ 76 Honda CJ360T Little Honda /
From: ravi@cs.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: The DoD Enquirer (was Re: Buckeye Beemers?)
Date: 7 Jan 1993 07:20:32 GMT
Organization: Woopie Tech
Distribution: world
Reply-To: ravi@cs.wpi.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: ivy.wpi.edu


in a strange and bizzare twist to an already intriguing series of
developments, in the DoD Bra Mystery, charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie
Smith) writes:
=
=	a.  It never was a fine art - therefore I didn't give it up!

    i guess you will have to get here to the glorious land of
    massachussetts and ride with the infamous nedod, to realize the
    artistic elements of the motorcycle riding business ;-) ;-).

=	b.  I *NEVER* wander around the countryside!

    you should ... you should ... nice twisty roads ... not to mention
    the rustic attractions!

=	c.  I've never had a BMW cage, let alone a "bmw 934232isl".

    well now, we have established then that you do drive a cage, but
    not a beamer... (***FLASH***) ... a volvo perhaps??

=	e.  Amassing great wealth?  Ladies undergarments?  You sir, clearly
=	    have mistaken me for two other people!

    do you deny then, that you were caught red handed in the act of
    encouraging members of a notorious outlaw biker organization (name
    withheld) to donate large sums of money towards purloining a
    particular lady's undergarment? is it not true, that after enticing
    said organization members through such false promises, you used the
    misappropriated funds to purchase a Volvo three-wheeler, an
    inflatable doll, a llama and a set of tennis balls?

=Ravi's next claim is probably going to be that he didn't post this, that
=it's really a ghost post  ...

    but of course! in fact even this post is not mine!

    peace,

    - ravi


    OBMoto: sorry for wasting all this bandwidth. here's a piece of
            useful advice to people with absolutely no senses (such as
    	me):

    	if you have had 31 inches of snow a few weeks ago, and if
    	the temperature is 55 outside, DO NOT park your bike on any
    	kind of ground however hard it is (park it on asphalt,
    	concrete ... something man made). snow has a tendency to
    	melt, becoming water, and soaking into the ground, turning
    	it into a fine slush providing a favourable situation for
    	your stand to sink into... what follows after that requires
    	a stronger man to describe...

    	and to all of you who offered me winter riding advice: YES,
    	I AM STILL RIDING! ;-) ... it was 55 outside the last two
    	days and glorious!


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.sig (n): a piece of mail with a fool at one  | Ravi Narayan, CS, WPI
          end and flames at the other. (C).   | 89 SuzukiGS500E - Phaedra ;)
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Corporate logos (was: Re: Dealer won't budge on '91 ST1100)
Organization: Lachman Technology, Incorporated, Naperville, IL
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 21:20:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.193554.15836@leland.Stanford.EDU> karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.210325.17361@elektro.cmhnet.org>
>charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan06.223154.8479@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com
>(Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>>>Jonathan E. Quist                           Lachman Technology, Incorporated
>>>jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
>>
>>Hey, Jonathan -
>>
>>When did INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation   change to  Lachman Technology, Inc.
>><??>
>
>Interactive has owned Lachman for several years.  This is
>all a matter of terminology.
>
>Sun now owns Interactive.  Don't be surprised if Jonathan's
>.sig says "SunSoft" some time soon, instead of "Lachman".

BZZZT! Thank you for playing.  See the other post for more info.
Interactive owned Lachman Associates.  Lachman Technology is a new company.

SunSoft only bought a portion of Interactive, and that was over a year ago,
so you'll never see SunSoft in my .sig.


-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              Lachman Technology, Incorporated
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
 __       There's nothing quite like the pitter-patter of little feet,
 \/                   followed by the words "Daddy!  Yay!"
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: Hurray!
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:32:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.182335.15385@noao.edu> morin@noao.edu (Meg Morin) writes:

>Just wanted to proclaim my membership to the DoD! Yeah!
>My number: 0788
>Thanks, Ed!

Ryan, are you listening?  Could this be Ed, as in Ed Hackett, perhaps?

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dmunroe@vcd.hp.com (Dave Munroe)
Subject: Re: Anti Biker Crap From Boss...
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:03:26 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard

It might be worthwhile to see what's necessary to have these convenient spaces
designated for bikes.

-Dave
From: dlady@duncan.cs.utk.edu (Don Lady)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: To KotL
Date: 13 Jan 1993 02:42:52 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - Department of Computer Science
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dlady@duncan.cs.utk.edu (Don Lady)
NNTP-Posting-Host: duncan.cs.utk.edu

In article <1993Jan12.134016.13402@elektro.cmhnet.org>, charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan11.193056.15988@ncsu.edu> kegunn@eos.ncsu.edu (KAY ELLEN GUNN) writes:
|> >
|> >Dear Kotl,
|> >
|> >Please issue me a DoD number. I have been reading this group for a month now,
|> >and I think I am finally ready to be initiated into this estimable group. I
|> >can flame with the best of you.
|> >
|> >Kay Gunn
|> >'88 Yamaha
|> 
|> Pftpftpftpftpft <!>   That ain't the way it works.
|> 
|> You'd think if she's been reading wreck.moto for a month, she'd know about the
|> gang-FAQ attacks that happen to people who make posts like this <!!>
|> 
|> On the count, 1 .. 2 ..  3 ...
|> 
|> 
|> Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
|>   DoD #0709   doh #0000000004  &  AMA, MOA, RA, Buckey Beemers, BK Ohio V
|>                 BMW K1100-LT, R80-GS/PD, R27, Triumph TR6
|>                           Columbus, Ohio USA
|> 
Naaah, 3 is way to low of a number. More like 3K!

-- 
Don (dlady@cs.utk.edu) Lady
AMA #162364    
Suzuki GS850GX, GS750EN  Yamaha DT175E for the cowtrails!
Honda TR200 (used to be the ex's)
From: ggrevera@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (George Grevera)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Know of any motorcycles movies?
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:22:55 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I'd like to compile a list of motorcycle movies or movies with good or
significant motorcycle action in them.  Then I'd like to add the list
to the FAQ if possible.

So far I can think of

	Easy Rider
	On Any Sunday
	Roadside Prophet	(or is it "Prophets"?)
	Terminator II
	The Wild One

I also remember one with a lot of motorcross in it but I can't remember
the name of it.  I'd appreciate any suggestions.  Thanks.

George
ggrevera@gradient.cis.upenn.edu
From: sdoki@cs.WPI.EDU (Suresh Doki)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: bike for sale
Date: 13 Jan 1993 01:54:09 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, WPI
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ivy.wpi.edu
Originator: sdoki@ivy



if there are any bikes for sale and if anyone is interested in buying
such bikes then please be on the lookout for such ads...  ;-)




suresh


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~mujhe is raaste mein khoon hi khon nazar aa rahaa hain                ~
~				- Amitabh Bachchan in kasme vaade      ~
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Subject: Re: Dear Abby sez "Don't let kids get on motorcycles" 
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:20:30 GMT

In article <726107313snz@morgan.demon.co.uk> tony@morgan.demon.co.uk writes:
>
>In article <1993Jan3.220835.14637@leland.Stanford.EDU> karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU writes:
>
>>In article <1992Dec31.163245.120@cs.cornell.edu> karr@cs.cornell.edu
>>(David Karr) writes:
>>>In article <1992Dec31.013913.9438@leland.Stanford.EDU>
>>
>>>The point is the *only* comment she had was to advise the biker to get
>>>liability insurance.  In the absence of any other comments, I take
>>>this to mean that it *is* the biker's fault if someone else gets hurt
>>>while in the process of messing around with the biker's property
>>>without permission.
>>
>>Whatever Abby thinks about the ethics of messing with someone else's
>>bike, she's correct about the liability issue.  Her advice was
>>correct and to the point, even if it didn't explore all aspects of
>>the problem.
>
>
>Sheesh you poor guys. In this country (where we obviously don't have as many 
>lawyers as you do), anybody trying to claim damages for injuries suffered 
>while in pursuit of a tresspass would be laughed out of court, unless they 
>could show that you maliciously set a trap designed to injure them. What kind 
>of legal system rewards the malefactor against the innocent party?
>
>
>Tony
>

Actually it is directly descended from English common law. With some silly
permutations picked up along the way.

Jeff Achenbach
From: tkpowell@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Terry Powell)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CBR600F2 dethroned by '93 ZX-6. Whine......whimper!
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:45:09 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc.

In article <1993Jan12.171429.899@osf.org> jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris) writes:
>
->P.S. Nope - I don't define "adults" as BMW riders. Motorcyclists are all 
->kids at heart - just not all of us aspire to be NINJAs and some don't
->like being associated with those who do.

So.. buy the Ninja, replace the fairing with one from a beemer or plaster
on a BMW decal and wha-la, you're a responsible adult with a fast motorcycle.

-- 

Terry Powell       Email - Terry.K.Powell@tek.com       Portland,Or