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From: claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss)
Newsgroups: fj.misc,fj.jokes
Subject: How to create a newsgroup in FJ
Date: 3 Sep 92 06:01:26 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Matsushita Electric Works Ltd., Tokyo, Japan.


ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz.....

This is Claude from my hibernation. Is it only my impression, but someone
put a CFV and there wasn't objections to fj.life.in-japan? Geez..Whatta
miracle! :-)

I proppose the following new scheme to create newsgroup:

--------------------
Network Mismanagement Procol Ver. A to Z

1) When someone posts "Call for Discussion", please post as soon as possible
   some messages like: "Hey, I don't like it!", "I will never use this
group, then it's not useful for me.".

2) If the people disagree upon creation, then you post: "Call for Curse".
Curse everyone who was against the newsgroup. 

3) If two week period expires and everybody doesn't want to curse anymore,
then you can post "Call for Discussion" again.

4) If someone send objection now it's because he was sleeping during all
that time and only now notice about the discussion. Send "Objection to
Objection" to him and ignore it.

5) If everybody "wants the newsgroup, but....", then make a "Call
for Ethernal Discussion" (TM: Rafael Santos). If the discussion last
more than 1,000 years then make another one.

6) If someone agrees that he only wants to disagree, then make a
"Call for disagreement" and continue with you "Call for Discussion"

7) If someone hasn't expressed objection, then... It's very strange!
How could it be possible?? Probably the feed to Titech is down!

8) You can "Call for Vote" after the all volume of discussions exceed
300 Gbytes.

9) If someone is against the CFV, you can send all those 300 Gbytes to
him.

10) The votation can be done by the following methods:

      a) On-Line jan-ken-po
      b) Bribe
      c) Hanafuda
      d) On-line russian roulette
      e) Normal vote, but in this case everybody will complain about.

11) If numbers of votes > 1 vote (Yours, of course) then ask your mother
and sisters to vote more somes.

12) If numbers of votes > numbers of members in your family, the newsgroup
is approved....

-----------------

Any suggestions to improve mismanagement in FJ? :-)


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From: okamoto@earth.chigaku.souka.osakafu-u.ac.jp (Kenji Okamoto)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: Endless discussions?...[ISO376 ENGLISH] [+JAPANESE]
Summary: I got much tired.
Date: 27 Aug 92 03:37:46 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Univ. of Osaka Prefecture, Dept of Earth Science, Sakai, Japan

In article <CLAUDE.92Aug26152355@tokyo.trc.mew.mei.co.jp>, claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss) writes:

> btw, where is everybody? :-)

Here, I am :-), who got much tired to read many 'discussions' 
only for 'defensive' and not creative.

Where is wise (or just grown-up) person in this NG ?

I suport Mr. Kuno's efforts, please begin CFV.
PLEASE go on, because 'everybody' doesn't care any details of the NG. ^_^
$@;d$N$h$&$J(J everybody $@$K$O2?$@$+NI$/J,$+$i$J$$$1$I!"(J
$@5WLn$5$s!"(JCFV$@$@$+2?$@$+$rAa$/;O$a$^$7$g$&!#(J

Any details on the NG should be discussed after it could be built.
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From: claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: Buy books from Japan.
Date: 28 Aug 92 02:04:27 GMT
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Organization: Matsushita Electric Works Ltd., Tokyo, Japan.


Thank you for the information. I'll try to contact it.

Seiji> A typical "fj.life.in-japan" question :-)
Well, if WE had it... :-(


#just say YES to fj.life.in-japan! (would this be ASKA or Bush??:-) )


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Newsgroups: fj.misc
From: inagaki@aclab1.resrch.anritsu.co.jp (Shintaro Inagaki)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: Endless discussions?...[ENGLISH]
Date: 28 Aug 92 01:08:47 GMT
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Distribution: fj
Organization: Research Lab., Anritsu Corp., Atsugi-shi, JAPAN
In-reply-to: claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp's message of 27 Aug 92 05:45:50 GMT

In article <CLAUDE.92Aug27144550@tokyo.trc.mew.mei.co.jp> claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss) writes:
    >>
    >>removed than direct voice contact, and so rage and frustation
    >>						-------------------
    >>tend to emerge..."
That's it.  The author knows the issure well.
A few comments:
1) Everyone has some frustration; those netters who post harsh comments does
   not necessarily has ligh-level of it.  Otherwise, I do not like to
   talk to such FJ people.
2) I believe electric communication has amplification or positive feedback
   effect; you read postings with rage and get angry and post more harsh stuff.
   In fact, I always take a deep breath before opening my news reader to avoide
   to get mad and post bull-shits.
3) So, "be calm" is a good advise to netters.  I tried to be calm and found out
   that a quite number of "let us vote ASAP" posting in fj.news.group in
   a couple of days.  Those who take temporary place here in fj.misc,
   say loud now that we should vote for fj.life.in-japan; you have the right to
   speak up.

Bye for now.
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Newsgroups: fj.misc
From: mtachiba@rkna50.riken.go.jp (Masahiko Tachibana)
Subject: Re: YES: Summary: CFV for fj.life.in-japan [CCITT8273.2 ENGLISH][+J]
Organization: Institute of Physical & Chemical Research (RIKEN) Saitama,Japan
Distribution: fj
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 09:54:43 GMT

In article <CLAUDE.92Aug27172257@tokyo.trc.mew.mei.co.jp> claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss) writes:
>
>Yappari dame ka?... :-) 
>
>Only a detail: A russian roulette is NOT a ROULETE! Hmmm. too hard
>to explain, could you see in the dictionary?

Only a complaint: Who don't know what it is. :-p
But I could have choose words.  How about this?
$B$A$g$C$H$@$1J86g!'$\$/$@$C$FCN$C$F$i$$!#(B
$B$G$b!"$b$&$A$g$C$H9)IW$G$-$?$+$b!#$3$s$J$N$G$I$&!)(B

5) Attempts for making pachinko newsgroup in fj were failed.  No hope
   that roulette is allowed as means to decide a newgroup to be dead 
   or alive.
   fj$B$K%Q%A%s%3%K%e!<%9%0%k!<%W$r$D$/$m$&$H$9$k;n$_$O<:GT$K=*$o$j$^$7$?!#(B
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   $BA4$/$"$j$^$;$s!#(B

Instead, I have new suggestion which you hoped.  
$B$+$o$j$K!"$44uK>$I$*$j!"?7$7$$Ds0F$r$7$^$9!#(B

6) Go to shrine and buy Omikuji.  If it says "Good luck", then make it.
   $B?@<R$K9T$C$F$*$_$/$8$rGc$&!#!V5H!W$H$G$?$i:n$k!#(B

7) You throw up your shoes.  If it falls ground as up-side-up, then make it.
   $B7$$rEj$2$"$2$k!#COLL$KMn$A$?$H$-$K>e8~$-$K$J$C$?$i:n$k!#(B

8) In a rainy day, you pray to Teruteru-Bouzu.  If it's fine next day....
   $B1+$NF|$K$F$k$F$kK7<g$K5'$k!#<!$NF|$,@2$l$?$i!E!E!E(B


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From: inagaki@aclab1.resrch.anritsu.co.jp (Shintaro Inagaki)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: How to survive in Japan [English]
Date: 4 Sep 92 08:28:23 GMT
	<CLAUDE.92Sep3165937@tokyo.trc.mew.mei.co.jp>
Distribution: fj
Organization: Research Lab., Anritsu Corp., Atsugi-shi, JAPAN
In-reply-to: claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp's message of 3 Sep 92 07:59:37 GMT

In article <CLAUDE.92Sep3165937@tokyo.trc.mew.mei.co.jp> claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss) writes:
    >>
    >>That reminds me when I came to Japan, and my boss that time said 
    >>(When I showed my project):
    >>-Muzukashii desu ne...
    >>Then, I thought that would be difficult and I made more and more
    >>plans and all the time I heard:
    >>-Muzukashii desu ne...
    >>Then, at last I understood that "A Japanese never says NO, he
    >>will make you tired to death before you can got an answer...."
    >>
et tu Brute.
It is quite common to misunderstand indirect Japanese nagations.

We Japanese had better be more direct when we talk to Americans.

So here are five advices for Japanese when he talk to foreigners:

a) Be more direct than you usually are.
   Suppose an American friend likes to talk about internationarization of
   Japan too much because the Japan Times tends to overstress that issue
   and he thinks it is a common subject in Japan but you are bored.
   State simply "Let us change the subject," instead of indirectly saying
   "Well, ah, uh, it's interesting."
b) Be less apologetic.
   When your American friend complains Japanese trains are too crowded,
   never explain the situation of Japanese transportation infrastructure.
   He would be puzzled and wonder if your father is the president of JR.
c) Avoid to talk much about history/background of the subject.
   Your friend is mostly interested about now and the future
   instead of the past.  Present your main point first and then
   add a little background if necessary.
d) Say simply "What's new," or "How are you today," instead of
   "What are you going to do this evening," according to Japanese convention.
   Otherwise you look too contradictious or argumentative.
e) Avoid common subjects such as "How unique Japanese culture is," and
   "How high Japanese technology is."
   These subjects are too magnanimous; remember the Americans are
   proud of their nation naturally.

For foreigners, these lead to another hint on
how to survive in Japanese working environment:

4) Be patient to above five tendencies of Japanese colleagues;
   take the tendencies in account when you talk to them;
   and avoid misunderstanding carefully considering what they really mean.


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From: inagaki@aclab1.resrch.anritsu.co.jp (Shintaro Inagaki)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: How to survive in Japan [English]
Date: 3 Sep 92 03:13:24 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Research Lab., Anritsu Corp., Atsugi-shi, JAPAN

There was a post on "how to survive in Japanese working environment (1),"
how about another one.


2) Be extremely careful not to use bad Japanese, when talking about your boss.

   One of my foreign friends meant "I do not like the way my boss does things,"
   or "I think my boss has bad attitude."
   He accidentally use the direct translation of this:
   "Boku no joushi wa taido ga warui to omoi masu."
   This sounds too magnanimous, and is very impolite Japanese;
   probably this is the last thing to say.
   This was so surprising that no one dared to correct his wording.
   He left my company soon.

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From: inagaki@aclab1.resrch.anritsu.co.jp (Shintaro Inagaki)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: Working in Japan [English]
Date: 2 Sep 92 01:55:14 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Research Lab., Anritsu Corp., Atsugi-shi, JAPAN
In-reply-to: claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp's message of 21 Aug 92 08:42:08 GMT

In article <CLAUDE.92Aug21174208@tokyo.trc.mew.mei.co.jp> claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss) writes:
    >>
    >>1) Never ask your boss first if you REALLY want to do something.

	I am waiting for your 2) and 3); your 1) was very interesting.
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Newsgroups: fj.misc
From: toho@parc.xerox.com (Masato Toho)
Subject: Re: Endless discussions?...[ISO376 ENGLISH]
Reply-To: toho@parc.xerox.com
Organization: Xerox PARC, Palo Alto, CA
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:59:30

In article <CLAUDE.92Aug26131544@tokyo.trc.mew.mei.co.jp> claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss) writes:

   ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz... Wake me up when the "lords" of FJ decide
   to vote something and end up all those divagations...

Yes, I will wake you up, if I still be up at that time.

I've learned they had not even decided how to decide whether they make
a newsgroup or not. They argue how to make a newgroup along with the
argue of the newsgroup itself. I can't believe this.
In addtion, some of them also say they won't vote until they agree.
Is there any reason to vote when they reach an agreement?

   Here is some interesting stuff I got from soc.culture.brazil
   about some Monty Python scene (Doesn't it look like some
   newsgroup in FJ??? :-) )

	[Interesting discussion deleted]

Yes, it does :-)

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From: claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: Endless discussions?...[ISO376 ENGLISH] [+JAPANESE]
Date: 26 Aug 92 06:23:55 GMT
	<1992Aug26.053754.3651@rkna50.riken.go.jp>
Distribution: fj
Organization: Matsushita Electric Works Ltd., Tokyo, Japan.


mtachiba>     Replacing theology to theory or standpoint, etc., isn't it hold 
mtachiba> true on the network communications?
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mtachiba> $@$3$lA4(J$@It@52r$8$c$J$$$s$G$7$g$&$+!)(J

How true.. How true... (Unfortunately.) :-(

btw, where is everybody? :-)
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Newsgroups: fj.misc
From: araki@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Sumio Araki)
Subject: Re: How to survive in Japan [English]
Organization: Keio University Shonan Fujisawa Campus.
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Distribution: fj
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:22:46 GMT

How do you do?  This is Sumio Araki@Keio University.

In article <CLAUDE.92Sep4170018@tokyo.trc.mew.mei.co.jp> claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss) writes:

 | |I really tried to adapt to Japan, and I think I was very
 |successful on it. However, after sometime I had the following
 |psychological dilemma: 
 |   "How to be an adapted person when everybody is expecting
 |    to you act 'as a foreigner'"? 
 |
 |Think about:
 |
 |   -> How a long a foreigner can stay here? 
 |   -> What are their limitations?
 |   -> Don't Japanese stereotype foreigners?
 | 
 |Since I had some very serious problems here, I gave up and now
 |I'm trying to me RE-adapt to my original values. (now I cannot
 |speak well neither my mother languages nor japanese... :-) ).
 |

Basically, almost all of Japanese companies are exclusive for
foreingners who have another physical conditions, another cultural
backgrounds and another mother languages.  You may consider you are
always 'a foreigner'.  You may consider you often miss communications
with your colleagues.
Remember, at the immigration desks in Narita Airport, the indications
were 'Japanese' and 'Alien' (recently, changed into another word).

Maybe, we Japanese expect Sigourney Weaver beats you.. :-)

 |Kenji> How wrong the Jpanese way ?  It's our custum.
 |Kenji> I don't think it's wrong.
 |
 |Well, I don't know what would be "wrong" or "right" in this case.
 |
I think so, too.

Even the Japanese, Japanese community has many stressers.

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Newsgroups: fj.misc.handicap
Subject: Re: One Side Deaf
Date: 31 Aug 92 05:18:38 GMT
Distribution: fj
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From: ben@it3.crl.mei.co.jp (Ben Reaves)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: Working in Japan
Date: 24 Aug 92 03:45:47 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Matsushita Electric Industrial Co.,Ltd.
In-reply-to: claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp's message of 21 Aug 92 08:42:08 GMT

> It [is] much easier to do something first and after that say "sumimasen
> shiranakatta." (Sorry, I didn't know.)

How true, how true.  Perhaps common knowledge among Japanese, but this is
foreign to us.  Is this Matsushita only, or other large Japanese companies
too?  I find Japanese people around me always applying this method.  Just
before my deadline, they shut down the computer with all the disk space and
they move it.  When I figure out why I get so many NFS errors, they say
to me "ah- gomen nasai" but it doesn't boot back up and I'm here all night
to make the deadline.

And now for my contribution:
	"Working In Japan" by ASME (Associated Students[?] of Mechanical
                                    Engineering)
        lists various people's experiences; there's an especially informative
	one on "How to get a job in a Japanese University".  Great book;
 	informally written.

--
==== Ben Reaves ============================= ben@it3.crl.mei.co.jp ====
From: m-ikeda@win.juice.or.jp (Makoto Ikeda)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: About expire program for news system (In Japanese/Kanji)
Date: 23 Aug 92 06:39:39 GMT
Organization: win-system., Tokyo, Japan


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