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From: edbruij@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (edgar.de.bruijn)
Subject: Re: 'Open' vs 'Closed' competitions?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 09:30:05 GMT

In article <2472@voodoo.UUCP> das@voodoo.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz) writes:
>Please forgive my ignorance, but what is the difference between 'open' and
>'closed' ballroom competitions?
>

The difference between 'open' and 'closed' ballroom and latin competitions
is that in open competitions foreign couples are allowed to join the
contest.

To determine the nr one of a country (or maybe a state in the USA)
the competition is mostly closed --> closed for foreign couples.

Edgar de Bruijn       (edbruij@hvlpb.att.com)
AT&T Network Systems
Hilversum
The Netherlands.
====================
From: jql@cypress.com (Julie Lewis--Applications)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
Subject: Re: Art & Technique (was about the Nutcracker)
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:29:23 GMT
Reply-To: jql@cypress.com.UUCP (Julie Lewis--Applications)
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor, San Jose, CA

I said:
>>Performed by somebody competent it is incredibly beautiful to watch.  
>>And being a frustrated dancer and choreographer, I can appreciate the technical
>>skill it requires as well.

Someone disagrees:
>>> I disagree with what you said. Ballet is not only made of technical
>>> skillness!  Technique is only an instrument on the service of the
>>> art, nothing more. 
>>> Art is not  technique!

Someone else gives us their thoughts:
>I think both previous authors might mean about the same thing.
>How about this: You need a certain level of skill to perform, but in a
>performance something else than the technique should come across. 

I say:
This is exactly what I meant.  I mean certainly anyone up there on stage
has better technique than I ever did! :}  In fact, my strength as a 
performer was more connecting with the audience and creating a mood than
actual flawless technique.  I would never presume to call what I did art,
but believe me when I say that performance can be as important as technique.

My point is that having an appreciation for how difficult ballet is to 
perform enhances my enjoyment of the art. 

 Jeez, my only criterion in the original post was competence. 
(and please, I don't care to get into a flame war about "what is 
competent technique?")

Anyway, the point of the original post that started this thread was
that some poor deluded soul on rec.music.classical said thay the Nutcracker
and therefore all ballet was vapid, self-indulgent trash.  My reply was
that ballet is beautiful regardless of whether the actual story, if there
is one, has deep meaning or not.	
-- 
Julie Lewis                                    jql@cypress.com
"it's a disgrace to the entire nation"
	hunter s. thompson
	on clinton's comment that he smoked pot but didn't inhale.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
From: Shahrukh Merchant <merchant@mvuxd.att.com>
Subject: New Ballroom Supply store in Boston (Patterson's Dance & Ballroom)
Gatewayed-From: ballroom@athena.mit.edu
Reply-To: Shahrukh Merchant <merchant@mvuxd.att.com>
Organization: None
Distribution: ne
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 23:46:00 GMT
Keywords: ballroom, mailing list

Patterson's Dance and Ballroom Shop has just opened (4 April) a
branch of their Ballroom Supply store in Boston, at 181
Massachusetts Avenue (2nd floor), above Choice Mart and across from
the Ballet Theatre.  This should be a lot more convenient for many
of us than their other stores in Burlington and Lowell!

Excerpts from their "News Release"/Ad:

- One of the largest distributors in New England for Dance shoes including
  Ballroom, contra, round, squares, etc.
- Imported in-stock ballroom shoes
- Dance Shoes Re-soled, dyed
- Freed/Coast/Champion/Werner Kern/Supadance/Capezio/Repetto/Gamba/Bloch/
  Diamant/Danstar/Promenaders
- Ballroom accessories (brushes, heel grips, bags, creams)
- Dance Lesson videos
- Dance costumes and evening wear, rental of dresses and dancewear
- $5 discount coupon available at store for purchases >$25 (1 per
  customer)

Their telephone number is (617) 536-2281 and their hours, according
to their recording:

		M-W	11:00 - 5:30 
		Th	11:00 - 7:30
		F-Sa	11:00 - 5:00
		Su	12:00 - 2:30

					Shahrukh Merchant
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
From: ST801593@brownvm.brown.edu (Anujeet Sareen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
Subject: BROWN'S ANNUAL DAFFODIL DANCE
Keywords: ballroom, mailing list
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:12:13 GMT
Reply-To: Anujeet Sareen <ST801593@brownvm.brown.edu>
Organization: None
Gatewayed-From: ballroom@athena.mit.edu

Hi!  For all ye out there lookin' for another fine ball to attend, Brown
University is holding its annual Spring Daffodil Dance on Saturday, May 2 at
Sayles Hall from 8pm to 12pm.  The prices are as follows:
     $5 with student id
     $10 without student id

At this year's ball, Gary and Cathy Jasperson, an excellent amateur ballroom
dance couple, have generously offered to give a brief performance!

Refreshments will also be served.

For further information, please call Anujeet at (401)-863-4788 or Abbey at
(401)-863-6025.

I hope to see you all there!

                                              -Anujeet
From: wernercg@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Craig Werner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
Subject: Teaching Dance to the Blind
Date: 12 Apr 92 01:00:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I wonder if any of you have had success in teaching dance,
especially modern or ballet, to blind people.  Do you know of any
research being done in this area?  I have heard of programs in
New York and Washington, D.C., that have been quite successful,
but I have no specific information on them.

As a blind person, I am intrigued with the idea of making all
the arts in some way accessible to people without sight.  I
should think that dance, besides being fun, would help a blind
person better understand movement and spacial relationships and
would also aid physical co-ordination.

Please post any information here or via e-mail.  Thanks for all
help.

Craig Werner <wernercg@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu,
wernercg@ubvms.bitnet>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
From: eaustin@ll.mit.edu (Eric J. Austin)
Subject: Ballroom dance competition results
Originator: eaustin@ll.mit.edu (Eric J. Austin)
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory, Lexington MA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 13:05:28 GMT


Here are the results of the Amateur Standard Championship competition
from the Massachusetts Closed Amateur Championships held in Dedham, MA,
on April 3, 1992.

	1 Thomas Keller and Evelyn Lafferty
	2 Mark Sheldon and Yanina Kisler
	3 Bill and Sara Song
	4 Patrick Martone and Nancy Chin
	5 Jeff and Ginelle Alexander
	6 Steve Borth and Louisa Cynimon
	7 Herbert and Joan Gillis

-- 
 Eric J. Austin                       EMAIL: eaustin@ll.mit.edu
From: levinson@garnet.berkeley.edu (Ronnen Levinson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
Subject: Dance music
Summary: Looking for good dance music albums
Keywords: music,cha-cha,tango,samba,swing,salsa
Date: 7 Apr 92 06:43:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.rrgadINN8tn
Distribution: nj
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

Howdy.

Today I had the misfortune to buy a pair of truly horrible albums of
dance music:  "Ballroom Dancing Cha Cha / Canadian Ten Dance Competition /
Francisco Montaro Ensemble" and a triple-swing album from the same folks.
Well, they're going back to the store tomorrow, but...

Can anyone recommend good albums meant for cha-cha, tango, swing,
samba, salsa, et al?  I have this fantasy that somewhere out there
someone has collected real music for these dances.  To give you an idea
of what I mean, I've put together a few swing songs myself, including
Jennifer Holliday singing "In the Mood" and Madonna's "Hanky Panky."

Ideally, said albums would be available by mail order, as I do not
expect to find them in local stores.

Thanks,
Ronnen Levinson.
From: ddrumm@amiganet.chi.il.us (Daniel Drumm)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: New James Bond?
Date: 16 Apr 92 06:05:09 GMT
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

John Meseke:
 
I think Mel could do Bond. I thought Timothy Dalton was the best Bond other than early Connery. He seemed pretty SAS-like. Which I thought was good, I think Bond becomes somewhat more believeable the more you actually think he could be a Navy Commando. If Mel did do Bond, here's my idea of who the rest of the cast should be:
 
Miss MoneyPenny: Joan Severance
M: Lee Iacocca (In espionage, you either lead, follow or get outta the way)
Q: Benny Hill
Felix: Jonathan Frakkes
Evil Japanese Investment Banker that threatens the welfare of God fearing 
WASPs all over the globe: Pat Morita
 
Assorted Bond-Bimbos: Kathy Ireland (as Squeeky Lushe)
                      Sharon Stone (as Francine Vulva)
                      Jessica Hahn (as Silvia Connimplant)
From: jon@cyclone.MITRE.org (J. E. Shum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Need 3rd Cannibal movie
Date: 1 Apr 92 01:25:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: linus.1992Apr1.012536.17300
Organization: The MITRE Corp. McLean Va.
Originator: jon@cyclone


In article <1992Mar31.073518.25687@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, cec35848@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chuck Carroll) writes:
> I'm thinking of making a collection of movies on tape, and I'd
> like to have a running theme of cannibalism.  I'm going to include
> _Silence of the Lambs_ and _The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, and Her
> Lover_, and I'd like to find another **GOOD** movie involving
> cannibalism to complete the set.  Any suggestions?

Two words: _Eating Raoul_   Absolutely marvelous film.
-- 
<jon@mitre.org>


I think, therefore I am...     DANGEROUS!
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Sanjiv Sarwate)
Subject: Re: T2 is crap!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 14:20:04 GMT

madkiwi@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Eade) writes:


>T-1000, once he has touched a person, can simulate that person and their voice.  Once he touched Sarah, he would've offed her.  

But can he simulate that "pained" feeling?  I don't think so.  Sarah calling
out when she's in incredible amounts of pain sounds so much more convincing.

>Much too civilized for a machine that hates humans, don't you think?

It doesn't hate anyone or anything.  It's a machine.  It doesn't love, it
doesn't hate, and it doesn't stop until its target is dead.  'Nuff said.


-- 
Sanjiv Sarwate		sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu	SANJIV@UIUCVMD
"We all thought one could treat history like one experiments in physics. The
difference is that in physics one can repeat the experiment a thousand times,
but in history, only once."  -Arthur Koestler, DARKNESS AT NOON
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Darkman - Crap (YES!)?
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:16:34 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <4585@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil>, jxxl@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil 
(John Locke) writes:
> I think we all agree that "Darkman" was just a movie. No one has said
> it was something other than a movie. What most of us are complaining about
> is that it was just a bad movie. Bad, recall, is the opposite of good and
> usually attracts more complaints than compliments.

Complaints?  Sure!  

A bad movie in some people's opinion?  Why not!

But "unacceptable"?  And "it made me sick"?  C'mon.

That's taking things entirely too far!  (Even if they were just figures
of speech...let's tone things down and stop being so superlative)

Greg Bole	                    Maid Marian: "Why, you speak treason!"
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu         Robin Hood: "Fluently"
                                    From _The Adventures of Robin Hood_
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Subject: Re: Who's Spider-Man? and Highlander wanted
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:10:33 GMT

<RHK106@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>Everyone probably knows about the Spider-Man movie that James Cameron is
>gonna do but if anyone can find a better actor to play Spider-Man than Keanu
>Reeves, you gotta tell me.  He's got the right build, the right Peter Parker
>looks and the only minus is the funny way he talks but I'm sure most people
>overlook that, Schwarzzenegger talks kinda funny too.

I still think that Ray Liotta would make a terrific Peter Parker, but
Keanu Reeves would have to be a close second.

                                                  --Steve Stelter
                                                  sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

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From: hudson@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu (David Hudson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Jennifer Connelly
Organization: UCLA Dept of Astronomy
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:38:29 PDT

In article <1992Apr7.105314.1@skcla.monsanto.com> jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com writes:
>In article <1992Apr3.213535.23560@cs.cornell.edu>, parekhs@cs.cornell.edu (Sujay S. Parekh) writes:
>> Hello, movie-lovers!! Those of you who have seen Rocketeer might
>> remember the heroine Jennifer Connelly. One of my friends has an
>> incredible crush on her, and I was wondering how to find out her
>> address? Would Walt Disney studios tell me if I asked?
>> 
>> Also, out of curiosity, has she appeared in other movies?
>> 
>
>Jennifer Connelly debuted in "Labyrinth", the George Lucas/Jim Henson
>fantasy film featuring David Bowie, many muppets, and lots of great sets and
>characters designed by Froud and inspired by "Where the Wild Things Are".
>
>A Must See (IMHO)
>
	Actually, Jennifer Connelly debuted in _Once Upon a Time In
America_(1984?), directed by Sergio Leone. 
	In the movie, she portrays a young girl (around 12) that 
appears in a flashback of the main character (played by Robert 
De Niro as an adult, but I forget the child actor's name).  

				Dave Hudson

-- 
David Hudson                         hudson@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu
"Society is a hole. It makes me lie to my friends." - Sonic Youth
"Hate was just a failure of imagination." - Graham Greene
"Dear Baby, Welcome to Dumpsville.  Population: You." - Homer Simpson
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney)
Subject: Re: SHATTERED
Date: 08 Apr 92 19:27:41 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Windows/DOS Users Ed Group
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Mar31.142228.16673@yang.earlham.edu> uril@yang.earlham.edu writes:
>In article <1992Mar28.113341.13084@hemlock.cray.com>, jeffy@cray.com (Jeff Neau) writes:
>> In article <1992Mar27.202142.28214@ll.mit.edu> davew@ll.mit.edu (Dave A. Witonsky) writes:
>>>
>>>Has anyone seen this movie?
>>>I was told by a friend to read the book because the movie
>>>does not measure up.
>>>What's the consensus out there?
[deletion]
>> 
>> I saw 'Shattered' in the local $1 theater and it was one hell of a movie
>> for a dollar.  I was in suspense throughout the entire movie until about
[deletion]
>> 
>> 
>> This movie was much better than a similar mystery/twisty-plot flick which
>> came out at about the same time:  'Deceived'.  I never heard of 'Shattered'
[deletion]
>> 
>> It is amazing why some movies do better than others when they aren't as
>> good.  Is it all marketing?  Is it the cast?  Why?
>> 
>Just to add my two cents, I think that Wolfgang Petersen (Neverending Story
>Das Boot) did a damn fine job with this film.  I recomend it strongly.  

I cannot help but wonder if we saw the same movie. The SHATTERED I saw
was a poor-man's retread of WITNESS FOR THE PROSECUTION, DEATHTRAP, and
OBSESSION, trying to run a con on the audience. I guessed the trick
early on. It's a very slick, handsome movie that doesn't so much
telegraph the ending as it faxes it. Most of the blame, I thought, went
to Wolfgang Petersen's direction, although his script certainly has
enough holes in it to attract even this lazy viewer's sceptical
attention.

On the other hand, Tom Berenger and Greta Scacchi did bang up jobs in
their roles, while Joanne Whalley-Kilmer was mostly wasted.

As for Bob Hoskins, his character was as preposterous as it was
overacted.  Hoskins can be one of the worst hams in Hollywood or one of
its best character actors. Here he indulged himself beyond the limits
of even bad taste in his penchant for eye-popping as he reprised his
role from ROGER RABBIT.

SHATTERED was a fast moving movie, with very handsome photography and
production designs. I was constantly aware of the beauty of the
individual shots, but alas it is more show than blow.

However, if you liked it, great; maybe you saw something I missed.

-- 
Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
	"Only the mediocre can always be at their best." -- Mencken
For an average time write uunet!microsoft!frankm
For an even more mediocre time try frankm@microsoft.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: ckt4x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Curt Tsui)
Subject: Re: Info on Michael Biehn?????
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:31:21 GMT

00kacolson@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
> After watching Aliens for the 10th time this weekend, and then renting
> Navy Seals I have to ask...
>     DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY INFO ON MICHAEL BIEHN (Hope I spelled that right!)???
> 
> Also, if anyone knows where I might find a copy of the Navy Seals movie
> poster I'd greatly appreciate it!
> 
> 			Thanks!
> 			Kim Colson

He was also in a movie directed by William Friedkin (of
Exorcist fame) called Rampage in which he was looking for a
psycho killer or serial killer or something.  I've seen the
soundtrack everywhere but never the movie.  It was supposed to
have been released years ago, right after Aliens, but I never
saw it.  Never saw the one where he was a deformed veteran who
fell in love with a girl next door (I can't remember the name
of this movie though) either.
--
-------------------------------------------------------------
Curt Tsui                  "Exterminate all rational thought"
ckt4x@Virginia.EDU                    NAKED LUNCH
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From: russest@ampex.com (Steve Russell)
Subject: Re: Photo of minor: Re-establishing thread
Organization: Ampex Corporation, Redwood City CA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:24:27 GMT

In article <2587@number1.dwrsun2.UUCP> perl@dwrsun2.UUCP (Robert Perlberg) writes:
>In article <1992Apr6.195032.2289@ampex.com>, russest@ampex.com (Steve Russell) writes:
>> Vaguely remember hearing on the clock-radio this morning that the
>> Supreme Court tossed out the case against that guy in the mid-west (?)
>> who was set-up and eventually tempted to purchase kiddy porn from the
>> Post Office (under cover, of course).
>> 
>> Could this be true? Is there really justice in the highest court in the
>> land? Did the FBI and the Post Master of that little town in the middle
>> of no-where really spend two years or so trying to solicit this guy to
>> buy kiddy porn only to have their best layed plans come afoul of true
>> justice?
>
>That depends on how you define justice.  Was the man compensated for
>his legal expenses?  Loss of work?  Damage to his reputation?  Waste of
>his time?  Were the Feds punished in any way for this crime they
>committed?  I don't throw around the word "justice" in cases where the
>only thing that was accomplished was that an innocent person managed to
>avoid going to jail.  As long as the authorities can bring false
>charges against someone, force that person to defend himself at his own
>expense (i.e., prove his innocence), and not compensate him in a
>reasonable fashion, there will continue to be a situation where the law
>does not count as much in determining our personal safety from
>persecution as the prejudices and ethics of the bureaucrats in charge.
>
>Robert Perlberg
>Dean Witter Reynolds Inc., New York
>{murphy | philabs}!dwrsun2!perl
>	-- "I am not a language ... I am a free man!"

Point taken.

It's like that lady last nite on 20/20 (?) asking the IRS to apologize for
her husband killing himself for the insurance money to pay back taxes which
they didn't owe.

-steve
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: john@spss.com (John Przyborowski)
Subject: Re: Point Break - Coherent?
Date:  7 Apr 92 14:12:38 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: SPSS Inc.

kamorgan@athena.mit.edu (Keith Morgan) writes:


>Spoilers - 




>^L



>I saw the Keanu Reeves and Patrick Swayze movie _Point Break_ this
>weekend and I'm puzzled about both the timing and what I saw as a
>suddenly introduced character inconsistency. Has anyone else noticed
>this? 
>First, the cassette says the timing is 117 minutes and my Leonard
>Maltin guide says that it's 122 minutes. (I know, Maltin can be wrong
>but bear with me)

>Second, the inconsistency is in Bodhi, the character played by Swayze.
>According to the FBI analysis of their robbery m.o. they are so
>successful at robbing banks because they're in and out and they never
>touch the vault. Well, in the last robbery they do rob the vault and
>chaos ensues. As well, their motivation for robbing banks is
>attributed by the FBI agent played by Gary Busey to their desire to
>have enough dough to go away for the winter to surf, and attributed by
>Bodhi to their desire to screw the system. So, why did Bodhi decide to
>go into the vault? This was over the objections of Presidents Nixon
>and Johnson as I recall. Finally, why didn't he tell Rosie to let the
>woman go when he was in the plane? All of sudden he turns into a real
>hard case and this is somewhat at odds with the supposedly spiritual
>thrill seeker of the first part of the movie. So it seems to me that
>the missing 5 minutes might have had a scene that accounts for Bodhi's
>change of attitude. I really like Kathryn Bigelow as a director and
>think that problem resides with the screenplay.

>'Nuff said. Any comments?

>Keith

Let me preface this by saying that, IMHO, this was probably the worst film
I've seen since Howard the Duck. Now that that's out of my system, on to 
bigger and more important matters!

Timing....I don't know. I'm not sure about those tape covers--they might 
include the FBI prompt as well as the flick or some other oddity(the same
way magazine publishers have to recognize the covers as a page for the 
postmaster).

Bodhi and his crew have devised a modus operandi--they're in and out before
the police get there. One part of that is avoiding the time consuming
and unnecessarily greedy act of trying to empty the vault. They also operate
on a non-violent basis--"No one gets hurt".  Now that last robbery repre-
sents a lot--Bodhi bucks his own "clean" robbery method by trying the vault
(both for kicks and greed)--breaking this system he kills time. Time brings 
police and a chance for the bank occupants to think. This ensues attempts
to stop the Ex Presidents, which create violence.  In other words Bodhi
even broke his own "system" for kicks, make him a big, dumb and, eventually
dead, doo-doo.

john
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