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From: priceje@cs.aston.ac.uk (Jason Price)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Mac memory questions
Date: 5 Jan 93 11:57:35 GMT
Reply-To: priceje@cs.aston.ac.uk
Organization: Aston University (Comp Sci)

In article 2468@vixvax.mgi.com, eiswirth@vixvax.mgi.com (Steve Eiswirth) writes:
>After a co-worker installed 7.1 and was appalled at the memory hogging going
>on in his 8mb IIsi, we're looking into buying tons o' memory.  My questions are:
>
>	1.  Can System 7.1 be set up to use less than the 5 megs that my
>	co-worker says it uses?
>
My SE with 4MB runs system 7.1 at a RAM usage of around 1.4MB.  That's without
things like virtual memory though ('cos it's still only a 68000).

Jason
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:21475 comp.sys.mac.system:15879
From: bredell@tdb.uu.se (Mats Bredell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: disabling extensions:  extension manager
Date: 5 Jan 93 10:04:20 GMT
Reply-To: Mats.Bredell@udac.uu.se
Organization: Uppsala University Computing Center (UDAC)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

greg berryman (gpb@gpb-mac) wrote:
: Mats.Bredell@udac.uu.se writes:
: : 
: : The original question was about finding a way to force an extension to be
: : loaded even if the shift key is being held down. The answer is simple: when
: : the Mac boots, it checks to see if the shift key is down. If so, it doesn't
: : load any extensions or control panels. You can't change this behaviour.
: : 
: : Under system 6, the extensions checked for a key combination themselves, but
: : system 7 has made the shift key as an override that will disable everything.
: : 
: : One way to force an extension to be loaded is to write a device driver to
: : do all the job. Device drivers are always loaded at startup. The driver colud
: : be very simple, it's enough if it simply loads the extension code and starts
: : executing. As far as I know, no one has done it yet (except for Apple
: : themselves).
: : 
: 
: MacPassword does it.  Change the behaviour, that is.
: 
: Greg.

Do you know how it does that? I've seen some security products that simply
install code into the hard disk driver.

No extension or control panel will be loaded by the system 7 if the shift
key is being held down. You have to write something else (like a device
driver) that will load the code.

/Mats
-- 
Mats Bredell                                   Mats.Bredell@udac.uu.se
Uppsala University Computing Center (UDAC)     Ph:  +46 18 187817
Department of medical systems                  Fax: +46 18 187825
Sweden                                         Think straight - be gay!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Ray Zimmerman <rz10@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: NSI 1.3: Where?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7705C83B801E0B5@ziklag.ee.cornell.edu>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 6 Jan 93 14: 53:07 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: rz10@cornell.edu
Organization: Electrical Engineering, Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d16
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:44:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.231725.581@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu> ,
Hammond@biomail.sjsu.edu writes:
>I'm looking for the Network Software Installer 1.3, and I can't find it
on
>ftp.apple.com. Any info as to it's whereabouts would be appreciated,
including
>directory path.

Try ftp.apple.com at dts/mac/sys.soft/netcomm/net-soft-install-1-3.hqx.
I just got it there yesterday.

:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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                          \ Cornell University, Ithaca NY  14853
 Ray-Zimmerman@cornell.edu \ Phone: 607-254-8819  Fax: 607-255-9072
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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                    Rotate phone 90 degrees and try again."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: sgrenander@NASAMAIL.JPL.NASA.GOV (Sven U. Grenander)
Subject: Re: inside mac stack?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:35:01 GMT

In article <wondertr.726343620@sfu.ca>, wondertr@fraser.sfu.ca (wondertree
learning center) wrote:
> 
> Regarding your query about Think Reference... I have the program and have
> found it to be very useful and quit in depth for an online reference.
> I only covers Inside Mac Vols I-V and reflects changes from Tech Notes
> 1-293... so if your heavy into System 7.x then you'll still need the
> Inside Mac books.
> 
> The code samples are of great help BUT the can't be cut and pasted into
> your apps ... a serious flaw in the program ...
> 
> I hope that it will be updated soon as this is version 1.0 and could use
> the improvements mentioned...
> 
> All in all though a good buy for the money.
> 
> TED

Last night on CIS, Symantec issued a press release describing version 2
which includes ALL the IM volumes and then some. If I remember right, the
list price was ~120, which is less than the paper version.

-Sven
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: tjs@earth.wustl.edu (tom sullivan)
Subject: Substitute Fonts for HP DeskWriter?
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 04:04:55 GMT


I just picked up an HP DeskWriter for my Macintosh today... I'm
really happy to have replace my ImageWriter I with a really
nice home printer, but I have a small hacker kind of question that
I was hoping somebody out there could answer.

If the printer doesn't have the font installed, it likes to generate a
screen bit map. Generally this doesn't bother me, as I only use Times
and Symbol in real documents, but when working on source code and raw
LaTeX, I use the editor Alpha and a font called "VT Alt Plain" which
is from the VersaTerm distribution. It's a really nice,
non-proportional font for editing. Easy to read and 0s and Os as well
as 1s and ls are different, but it looks lousy when bit mapped to the
printer. Is there a way to tell the printer driver (say with a ResEdit
hack) that when "VT Alt Plain" is called for, "Courier" should be
substituted?

Thanks,

tom sullivan
tjs@earth.wustl.edu
From: povlphp@uts.uni-c.dk (Povl H. Pedersen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Difference between 2400, 2400 v.42, and 9600 baud?
Date: 10 Jan 93 19:37:15 GMT
Organization: UNI-C, Danish Computing Centre for Research and Education

Things are ver easy.
V.32 is true 9600 bps
V.32bis is true 14400 bps
V.42/V.42bis Error correction and datacompression. Gives up to 4 times gigher
    thru-put.
MNP-5 with MNP 1-4 error correction. Compression up to 2 times higher thru-put.

All the data-compression is worthless if you download compressed files.
That is fiules already compressed with Stuffit, Compact Pro etc.

SO if you get a 2400 baud modem with V.42 you will get the same download
speed you always had. But text screens will update faster.

I say, get a V.32bis modem. They have all V.42 too for thru-put of
57600 bps. And they can download at around 1650 chars/sec. if you
uses the Z-modem protocol.

2400 baud modems is a thing of the past.
-- 
Povl H. Pedersen   -   Macintosh specialist. Knows some DOS and UNIX too.
pope@imv.aau.dk    -   povlphp@uts.uni-c.dk
From: sk3@doc.ic.ac.uk (S Karathanos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Smalltalk/V from Digitalk wanted
Date: 8 Jan 1993 01:41:10 -0000
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
Distribution: World
NNTP-Posting-Host: oak50.doc.ic.ac.uk

Hello Friends,

I'm looking for Smalltalk/V from Digitalk for the Mac, the 68000 Version.
The price in the States is said to be $80 (educational), but here in 
England the only vendor I could find wants 135 Pounds - that's more than
$200! Does anyone want to sell his old Smalltalk to me, or can tell me
a mailorder company to order from, if possible with price and fax-number?

Thanks, Stephan
From: Terry.Dailey@p0.f222.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Terry Dailey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: AMIGA 2000
Date: 4 Jan 93 05:12:19 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:125/222.0 - Macademe/Emma, San Francisco CA


                                FOR SALE
                              -----------
Amiga 2000 rev.6.2
OS 2.04 ECS chip
1 meg chip ram. 6 megs fast ram.
Supra Ram 2000 card  8 MEG capacity
Supra 2000 SCSI card with word sync.
Segate ST277N1 5.25" internal 60 meg SCSI drive.
2 Chinon 880k internal 3"4 drives.
1084S Color Monitor.
-------------------------------------------------
Software........
 
Amiga Vision
Quarterback Tools
DJ Helper
Where in the World is Carmen Santiago?
Lots of Utilities.
 
$975.00 with monitor.  U.S. Dollars
$825.00 with out monitor. U.S. Dollars
 
The price also inclueds UPS Shipping to anywere in the U.S.A.!
 
Please leave Email if interested...
Great for seting up a video toaster
                              Thanks
 
                                   Terry.....



--  
Terry Dailey - via FidoNet node 1:125/555
    UUCP - ...!uunet!hoptoad!kumr!fidogate!222.0!Terry.Dailey
INTERNET - Terry.Dailey@p0.f222.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac
From: abl9y@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Andrew B. Lederman)
Subject: Upgrade SE--->SE/30
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 00:20:48 GMT

I have a faulty logic board in my SE and need to replace it.  

1) Can I simply buy and SE/30 logic board and FdHD  H and use that to upgrade my system?

2)  Can I buy a FDHD SE logic board and FDHD floppy drive and upgrade to from 
    my 800k drives.  

Any advice would be appreciated


Thanks, Andrew

abl9y@virginia.edu     
.
From: ratcliff@ucsd.edu (John Ratcliff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Looking for Mac postscript previewer
Date: 6 Jan 93 23:02:41 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: ucsd

Are there any good postscript previewers available for the Mac
that can display any laserwriterable file?

Thanks for any pointers, public domain or commercial.

John Ratcliff
UCSD Engineering
ratcliff@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: west@ntmtv.UUCP (Andrew West)
Subject: Re: TimesTwo disk doubler???
Originator: west@herald
Organization: Northern Telecom Incorporated
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:16:29 GMT

From article <104061@netnews.upenn.edu>, by warden@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Robert T Warden):
> 
> I saw an ad for a new program from Golden Triangle called
> TimesTwo which claims to double your HD's space
> WITHOUT using file compression.
> 
> Does anyone have any experience with this program, or
> know how it works?  Thanks...
> 

I can't comment on this program (I haven't seen it yet although GT has
been hinting at it for the last year) but I saw a competing program at
the MacWorld '93 Expo.  It's called Stacker and works in about the
same way as TimesTwo.  The company indicated it would be available at
the end of the first quarter of '93.  I believe is a Mac version of an
IBM version of the same name ("over 4M users...").

I *think* TimesTwo replaces the harddisk drivers to do the
compression.  The rep showing the Stacker demo claimed that Stacker
was "next to" the drivers so that you can continue to use any driver
software.  The Finder window showed the disk space at the compressed
value (e.g. 120M before "stacking," 220M after stacking).  They also
indicated that the disk could be moved to other machines without
putting a new copy of Stacker on each machine (since the compression
was at the driver level) or decompressing files in advance.  They also
said you can use it in parallel with AutoDoubler, Disk Doubler, etc.
although you won't see any additional space savings.

Andrew West
Northern Telecom    UUCP: {ames, amdahl, hplabs}...!ntmtv!west
Mt View, CA   USA   Internet: ntmtv!west@ames.arc.nasa.gov

Mann - "So you don't know everything?"
Eve  - "It would be impractical to know everything.  Access time would
	be enormous..."

-Mann & Machine
From: planting@cs.pitt.edu (Harry Plantinga)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: History was made today...
Date: 5 Jan 93 20:59:43 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,misc.invest
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Dec22.170550.11690@Celestial.COM>, bill@Celestial.COM (Bill
Campbell) wrote:

> I have one major problem with Apple.  I refuse to buy from companies
> that figure to make money through litigation rather than innovation.
> This is also why I don't have any Lotus products on my system.
> 

I hope you don't own any Intel products . . .

--------------------
Harry Plantinga
planting@cs.pitt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Subject: Re: SCSI id of a Laser Writer IIg
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 23:28:36 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <w3XmwB6w165w@theporch.raider.net> rowley@theporch.raider.net (Michael Rowland) writes:

>Some hard drives let you change their ID's by software...avoid them.

Why?  There's nothing wrong with such drives (which include the
Quantum Prodrive series, for instance), provided they ALSO let you set
them to respect the jumper positions.  I've found the software change
ability comes in handy when I want to temporarily move an internal
drive elsewhere.  
-- 
Matthew T. Russotto	russotto@eng.umd.edu	russotto@wam.umd.edu
Some news readers expect "Disclaimer:" here.
Just say NO to police searches and seizures.  Make them use force.
(not responsible for bodily harm resulting from following above advice)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: ron_b@apollo.hp.com (Ron Buttiglieri)
Subject: Help needed with ext.HD and IIsi
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:42:29 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA



Okay, here's the situation: I bought an Ehman ext. HD several
years ago for my SE. Worked fine. I then attached it to a Mac II
I have (on loan) and it's worked fine for a few years now. I 
just recently bought a MacIIsi (good deal) and tried hooking
it up, but I get a sad (dead?) mac error (I think it was
00000000F 000000001). I tried several different arrangements,
changed the SCSI ID, I *believe* it's terminated correctly.

I've also got a Logitec hand scanner that hooks up to the 
SCSI port. I hooked that up to the si with no hardware complaints
(I didn't actually try it, though). Since I know that *it* has
terminating resistors in it (that I had removed because it was hooked
up to the middle of the SCSI chain), I put in the resistors and 
tried the theory that the HD wasn't terminating properly.. no help.
Still sad mac.

For further clues, in the previous setup (with the Mac II), if the 
external HD wasn't powered on (didn't have to be ready, just turned on)
the Mac wouldn't boot, just sit there with a grey screen and wait.
The IIsi acts much the same.

The si does access the ext. HD just before dying (the access light
blinks once).

I *know* there's someone that can help me. I'm not great with 
SCSI termination setups (like, is there something I have to do 
inside the si??)..

Any and all help is appreciated.

Thanks,

Ron
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:21514 comp.sys.mac.apps:19492 comp.sys.mac.system:15913
From: lam@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Lam)
Subject: Re: Mac to Sun
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:19:13 GMT

mlbelan@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Mark Belangee) writes:

>I'm interesting in porting some text files from a macintosh to a sun using
>only disks.  Question: What's the best way to do this?

>I've tried saving the files to disks on my mac using MS-DOS format, but 
>I don't know how to tell the sun to read a MS DOS disk. I've heard that it
>is possible.

>Is there another way? Or, does anyone have a sol'n to this problem.

Yes, SUN Sparcs can write/read msdos floppies.  If you save your mac files as
msdos format.  Then you can either 

1) if you have superuser privs, type mount /pcfs
   and the disk will appear under the /pcfs directory

2) have the sys-adm install mtools which allows non-superusers to access
   ms-dos floppies.

Other way is to ftp/mail them to the sun.

I prefer ftp myself.  it is quicker.
--
Ken Lam                                                     (803)-884-7615 (H)
System Administrator                                        (803)-792-4969 (W)
Integrated Techinical Systems                               (803)-792-5446(FAX)
UNIX/Netware/Multimedia                                      lam@jove.cofc.edu
MultiMedia Works & Video Productions ======= Teaching the world in better ways

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: cole@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Sandra Stewart-Cole)
Subject: Re: good mac magazines
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 07:22:05 GMT

In <1993Jan9.225118.15026@samba.oit.unc.edu> Chris.Hynes@launchpad.unc.edu 
(Chris Hynes) writes:


> Does anyone out there know what the best mac magazine is for
>the business community.  MacUser and MacWorld seem more geared to the
>individual user, but I don't read either of them regularly enough to know
>if this is relly true.  I am looking to start up a small bookstore in the


(more stuff I am not up to answering deleted) 

Unfortunately, the only widely available Mac monthlies are MacWorld and 
MacUser. There perhaps SHOULD be a business-oriented one, but there is not at 
this point any that could substitute for either.  I think the business user is
likely to be more pleased with the orientation and depth of MU over MW, which 
tends to be more prone to error and even silly sensationalism (like a cover 
story 2 years ago on the coming crop of Mac Clones)  and is often still locked
into the concept of the business Mac being a graphics and DTP machine.

That's all pretty subjective of course. Try investing the $40 or so in a year's
subscription to both (MU goes for $19.99 or so to new subscribers, I assume MW
does as well) and read them for a while to get a good sense of what appeals to
you. A cursory look at one or two issues of either can be misleading. It is 
often useful to get the different views of the two.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: ryeh@athena.mit.edu (Richard C Yeh)
Subject: shareware
Keywords: shareware, freeware
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:15:48 GMT

Is there someplace that keeps track of and distributes shareware/freeware
for the mac?  I want to be able to get this stuff through the mail since
I don't have a modem and don't wish to purchase one at this time.

Please email me at ryeh@athena.mit.edu since I don't often read this
newsgroup.  Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: manacsa@l13ff.jsc.nasa.gov (Gerry Manacsa)
Subject: Re: Experience with SoftPC
Organization: Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Co.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:35:43 GMT

In article <C0C9F7.Iw6@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay) writes:
> 
> hackett@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Mike Hackett) writes:
> 
[stuff deleted for brevity]
> 
> He will need to use the "Apple File Exchange" that comes bundled with the
> Mac O/S disks.  It works but is slightly awkward and reminds many folks of
> teh Font/DA mover.  I suggest that you buy "Access PC" for about $55-60 and
> use that instaed of the free Apple File Exchange as it is more elegant
> and transparent than Apple File Exchange.  DOS disks act just like
> MAc disks and appear as icons on the screen. 
> 

[more stuff deleted]

I concur with your opinion of Access PC.  I've been using it for over a year
on my Mac IIci, and it has worked flawlessly and transparently the whole time. 


=====================================================================
Gerry Manacsa (manacsa@l13ff.jsc.nasa.gov)
Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Company
---------------------------------------------------------------------
These are my opinions and nobody else's... etc.
=====================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Distribution: world
From: peter_S._Kang@bmug.org
Organization: BMUG, Inc.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:01:15 PST
Subject: Re: SE--->SE/30 upgrade

IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN SELLING YOUR MOTHERBOARD, PLEASE E-MAIL ME.

**** From Planet BMUG, the FirstClass BBS of BMUG.  The message contained in
**** this posting does not in any way reflect BMUG's official views.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: johnson@ssvax1.ssd.loral.com (Christopher Johnson)
Subject: Re: A list of important share/free ware inits for a new user
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: Space Systems/LORAL - Palo Alto, CA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:06:15 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.151438.17346@rtsg.mot.com>,
lamont@catfish16.rtsg.mot.com (Bradley Lamont) wrote:
> 
> What inits/cdevs would you reccomend to a new user of a macintosh.
> I am trying to help several people and am making up a list of what I
> feel is improtant to have but is relatively cheap.
> 
> SuperClock
> DepthGuage (for color machines)
> 
> What else do you think is essential?
> 
> Brad 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Bradley H. Lamont                email:  lamont@rtsg.mot.com
> Wireless Enterprise Systems              lamont@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
> Motorola, Inc.

Generic
-------
Facade       - Disk Icon based on name of disk
SuperClock   - Menu Bar clock and timer
Switch-A-Roo - Screen depth changer
Flash-It     - Screen capture utility
PopChar      - Pop up character selector
MaxAppleZoom - Makes 13" monitor a little larger
WindowWizard - Gives pop up menu of all open apps and windows
SCSIProbe    - List of SCSI devices and Cmd-key will mount devices
Save a BNDL  - Actually a program. Allows the reset of the Desktop files
with 
               an option of restarting the finder.

System 6
--------
Kolor        - Set colors of various parts of windows
Color Finder - Allows color Icons on the desktop
TrueType     - Allows TrueType fonts to be used 
Layout       - Application - Change Icon spacing and other stuff under
Finder

System 7
---------
Helium              - Balloon Help toggle
Default Application - Set the default program for file types
AKA                 - Create an Alias by Control dragging
Folder Icon Maker   - Actually a program but very nice. Will create a
folder 
                      Icon with a small icon in it.
FinderEdit          - Application - Allows editing of Sys7 finder settings

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: jgraham@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (the End)
Subject: Apple warantee transfers ?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:31:38 GMT


I am about to by a second hand Apple monitor that is a mere month old. Can the
11-months remaining on the warantee be transfered to me ? This is not an 
educational discount buy.

Thanks much,

Jim

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: worman@skink.cis.ohio-state.edu (robert worman)
Subject: Re: A list of important share/free ware inits for a new user
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:37:55 GMT

>> What inits/cdevs would you reccomend to a new user of a macintosh.
>> I am trying to help several people and am making up a list of what I
>> feel is improtant to have but is relatively cheap.

	Helium and Speed Beep, both shareware by Robert L. Mathews, are very 
handy.  I also like Soundmaster (of course).

rob
From: anderson@Apple.COM (Clark Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: ImageWriter II for Sale
Date: 7 Jan 93 04:21:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

ImageWriter II For Sale

Excellent condition, low miles,
comes with cables for a Mac.  
$175, you pay the shipping
Call or e-mail.

----------------------------------------------------------
Clark Anderson                 BellNet: 408-974-4593
Apple Computer, Inc.         AppleLink: C.ANDERSON
                              InterNet: anderson@apple.com
I speak only for myself...
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc