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From: w_mf@athalia.unibw-hamburg.de (Fred Hantelmann)
Subject: Linux + PEX again
Organization: University of Federal Armed Forces Hamburg
Distribution: comp.os.linux
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:04:20 GMT

I posted this question a week ago, but I'm missing it in the news list
and therefore I put it again.

I tried to recompile X11R5 with XFree-1.1 patch to enable PEX. Now I have
a libphigs.a and all PEX-Demos may run under Linux if the output is
redirected to a Sun. I also got a new X386, but this server is not able
to find the default PEX font Roman_M. Is there anyone around who got
PEX running under Linux with output on the local screen?

I could not compile the PEX fonts under Linux because to_wfont breaks
with a float exception. I just took the PEX fonts from a Sun hoping
the output is what even Linux would create if to_wfont could work
under Linux.

Besides, if you are interested in graphics, xgks is running well under
Linux. It does not compile out of the box, but only minor changes are
needed to use xgks with it's C language binding.

If you know how to get PEX running or if you are interested in xgks
please send mail to

w_mf@unibw-hamburg.de

Fred Hantelmann
Universitaet der Bundeswehr Hamburg
Holstenhofweg 85
D-2000 Hamburg 70
Phone: 040 6541 2819 (Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: cummings@hammer.prime.com (Kevin Cummings)
Subject: Re: Boca Sirrus Card?
Organization: Prime Computer, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:13:57 GMT

In article <taudas.724130874@ais.org>, taudas@ais.org (Tony Audas) writes:
> the cirrus logic chipset in the boca card is not et4000 compatible.  the
> word is that it is very fast (faster than the wd chipset in the diamond
> speedstar24x)  i wouldn't buy a trident.  get a fast et4000 like the
> speedstar vga 1m (about US$135).  an s3 based card will be more like us$240.

Try around US$199 for a Fahrenheit 1280-24.  That's with the S3 86C928!
Cards based on the S3 86C911 are hereby obsolete, since the 24 bit version
basically costs the same as the 16 bit one.  (Prices based on Jan '93 Computer
Shopper.  shipping/sales tax extra)

> the cirrus logic chipset has integrated 24bit DAC for truecolor, and has
> been chosen by ibm and compaq for some of their new systems.  it might not
> be long before linux supports this chipset.  there is a new version of the
> s3 chipset (89c928) that is _very_ fast (nth graphics advertises 40M
> winmarks) don't know if it is shipping yet.  ati graphics pro is fast (27M
> 
> 
> speedstar 24x)  

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From: ellmenre@homer.uni-passau.de (Nils Ellmenreich)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: EXT fs
Date: 14 Dec 92 13:51:16 GMT
Organization: University of Passau, Germany

In article <1992Dec11.160639.25907@klaava.Helsinki.FI>, wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius) writes:
|> dd435157@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Dan Doner) writes:
|> >Why does the FAQ still call the ext fs beta?  Is it any more beta than the
|> >rest of linux?
|> 
|> The author of the extended filesystem calls it alpha (there was just
|> recently an announcement for version alpha 11).
|> 

Unfortunately, I have to call it ALPHA, too. Last week I switched to extfs
with 89pl5 and found lots of errors. Sometimes efsck reports an error
while counting the inodes (one was missing), and after a system hang-up
( with X ) even efsck wasn't able to repair the file system again.

I use MINIX fs again and wait until extfs is reported stable.

-- 
Nils Ellmenreich                         University of Passau, Germany
ellmenre@kirk.fmi.uni-passau.de		 ellmenre@forwiss.uni-passau.de
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan)
Subject: Re: Optimal Partition Sizes
Organization: Vince and Suzie's Underpowered PC
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:28:23 GMT

becker@super.org (Donald J. Becker) writes:
>Sun's implementation had some flaws (like, their install only works
>with a layout very close to the "suggested" layout) and history has
>forced them to support some arcane cruft (like, the 'c' disk partition
>is really the whole disk -- which often lead to "gee we're not using
>the biggest partition, I'll make it swap") but with the added tables
>it's better than the way linux currently does 'fdisk'-related
>configuration.

ultrix has the same stuff, which isn't bad at all in real use.

/dev/XXXXa is /
/dev/XXXXb is swap
/dev/XXXXc would be the whole disk (excluding swap)
/dev/XXXXd-h are various combinations of defaults that you can pick
	and choose from and also override.

>I've been rambling a little bit so I'll conclude: the linux community
>should be able to come up with something better than printing out the
>FAQ and typing in values verbatim.

ultrix also has a nice set of docs that includes the space requirements
in the / and /usr partitions for each 'kit' you can pick and choose from
(excluding /var)...something like that with a canned "one from column-A,
one from column-B" installation like SLS would be a great aid for folks.



-- 
     ---------- Vince Skahan --------- vince@victrola.sea.wa.us ----------
"USENET is not an obsession. It's just something I have to do all the time."
					quote from Jan'93 Unix World article
From: mykee@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marco Scheibe)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: NEEDED: mprotect()-systemcall
Date: 20 Dec 92 19:18:45 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany

Hi hackers,

I noticed something is missing in linux....
What about the mprotect-systemcall ? mmap()/munmap() are existent, but
mprotect() is missing. I think it should not be too difficult to implement,
or am I wrong ?

Please let me know if someone did it - or tell me how to do it. I reall
need that call !

Regards,
 Marco
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: joel@wam.umd.edu (Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Re: Crossposting of Announcements
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:12:35 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.015807.22210@tc.cornell.edu> mdw@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.012306.22022@sfu.ca> rchen@fraser.sfu.ca (Robert Chen) writes:
>>I read comp.os.linux.announce
>>because I don't want to miss the announcement of any new toys.  Then I
>>have to read the same damn articles again in c.o.l!  How can any sane
>>person say this is an improvement?!
>
>At the moment, this is my fault. I intentionally crosspost articles
>between the two groups for those sites that don't get c.o.l.a (and for
>FidoNet). We plan to change this soon once c.o.l.a is more widely
>distributed (and once Fidonet can pick up the new group). This should be
>soon. If you have problems with this, please let me know.
>
I use trn, and it seems to magically skip articles in c.o.l. that I've
already read in c.o.l.a.

-Joel
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: Weird corruption w/0.99
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:48:42 GMT

Denise Tree (tree@midget.towson.edu) wrote:

: BTW The new kernel compiled easily with Linus's changes.... the little 
: config script seems like it would be pretty handy for Kernel-Kompiling
: newbies who don't know yet where all the little bits to change reside 
: in the kernel src.

It would also be nice if "make config" did the little things, like ROOTDEV and
KEYBOARD, too... :)

: A couple more weeks and Treehouse will be celebrating her one year 
: anniversery as a "Real Computer with a Real OS (tm)"!!

I think I started playing with Linux in November 1991, so that makes it khijol's
1 year anniversary since I gave SCO the boot... :) :)
-- 
Ed Carp			erc@apple.com, erc@saturn.upl.com	801/538-0177

Who and what would you be if you went beyond your deepest fears?
From: jem@sunSITE.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: How much can Linux do?
Date: 11 Dec 92 22:16:52 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill

In article <1gb1epINNpu8@s850.mwc.edu> bfornshe@s850.mwc.edu (Ben John Fornshell) writes:
>

everything including the dishes.

"answering the questions before they open their mouths."
jem.
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From: probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Is >4Mb essential for X?
Date: 20 Dec 1992 21:21:09 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu
Keywords: RAM X 4Mb

philipr@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Philip Rhoades) writes:

>I have installed the SLS version (from Bond Uni) on a 486 with IDE
>drive with some minor prob's starting X but I have also installed
>it on a 386DX with SCSI drive (a few hassles there) - this machine
>only has 4Mb ram. Is it essential to have more than 4Mb to start X
>even if you are not compiling?
>-- 
>Philip Rhoades
>First Year Biology
>University of Sydney
>phil@biox.bio.su.OZ.AU or philipr@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU

You should be able to get my with 4M. However, I would have a swap file or
partition in place. X will use gobbs of memory if you open lots of windows
or run things that want to display graphics (like xv).

James
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: srheintze@happy.colorado.edu
Subject: Wanted: help getting faq
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 11 Dec 92 13:26:17 MDT

Someone from another news group told me about the FAQ for Linux.  I've never
used ftp before but, armed with my "Zen and the Art of the Internet" I gave it
a try.  At the VMS prompt I typed 

$ ftp kirk.bu.oz.au
 <at which point I logged in anonymously>
dir   <this did not work>
ls  <this did not work - permission denied or something like that>
cd /pub/OS/Linux   <this looked like it worked>
get faq    <it said it successful, but I was skeptical>
mget *faq*  <this would not work - permission denied or somethinglike that>
^Z <I exited ftp>

I look in my directory, but I could not see any file that looked like a faq.
                                   
Can someone help  me get a FAQ?

				Thanks,
					Sieg
From: higgins@birke.uni-paderborn.de (Frank Westheider)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: How to get a BJ300 to work under Linux (printcap) ?
Date: 19 Dec 1992 10:51:00 +0100
Organization: Universitaet Paderborn, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: birke.uni-paderborn.de
Keywords: printer,BJ

Hi Linuxer !

Is there anybody out there, working with a BJ3x0 under Linux.
How should the printcap look like. How can i print ps-Files or
Tex-output (gs only supports EPSON, i suppose).
I want to use the BJ in IBM- not in EPSON-MODE. Otherwise
i had to switch between the modes, because Windows-BJ-Driver
uses the IBM-Settings.

Please help


   and merry X-mas

      Frank  (higgins@uni-paderborn.de)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius)
Subject: Volunteers for Meta-FAQ and INFO-SHEET?
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 14:23:05 GMT

I would like to hand over the task of maintaining and posting the
Meta-FAQ and the INFO-SHEET to somebody else.  Preferably somebody who
has been using Linux for more than the past week.

What is required of the maintainer of them is to keep post them
periodically (this can be automated, I do it via my crontab), and
keeping them up to date.  It isn't all that hard, but I have a few
other things that require my attention and feel that I can't do it
well enough.  (I am also getting a bit tired of postings that ask for
things expressly covered by these documents, and if nothing else, this
makes me feel less than enthusiastic to devote more energy to them, if
they are going to be ignored by so many people.)

If you are interested, mail me, and tell me why you want to do it.

--
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   MS-DOS, you can't live with it, you can live without it.
From: craig@adikia.sccsi.com (Craig Groeschel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: mailpak success and question
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 08:35:22 CST
Organization: Craig Groeschel's system, Houston, TX

I got mailpak 1.1's mail and rmail to compile under 0.98.5 / gcc 2.2.2d7
by adding -fwritable-strings to the CFLAGS.

Question: how do I set everything up to recognize Internet addresses?
Or is that what I need smail for?

--
"Do not play this piece fast. It is never right to play Ragtime fast." Joplin
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
From: danh@quantum.on.ca (Dan Hildebrand)
Subject: Re: Mach vs. NT?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 02:45:40 GMT
Organization: Quantum Software Systems

In article <J8DNVB1w165w@bluemoon.use.com> wjg@bluemoon.use.com (william grimm) writes:
>Well, NT also uses a microkernel, upon which many operating systems can be 
>built.  It is indeed quite similar to mach.  And, I believe MS hired the 
>developer of Mach- not sure about this, though.

At the USENIX Microkernel workshop in Seattle, April/92, Dave Cutler himself
stated that NT was not a microkernel OS, but belonged in the "other"
category. The Microsoft marketing folks might like to use the latest buzz
words, but I'd be inclined to trust Dave Cutler. :-)

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From: vladimir@Eng.Sun.COM (Vladimir Ivanovic)
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
Subject: Re: Mach vs. NT?
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:57:59
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: cocteau
In-reply-to: cwilder@eis.calstate.edu's message of 11 Dec 92 00:59:33 GMT

Windows NT is described in

	"Inside Windows NT"
	Helen Custer
	Microsoft Press, Redmond WA, 1993
	ISBN 1-55615-481-X
	pp. xxiv + 385, $24.95

This book .. is for the rest of us, those who know something about
computers and who want to understand the internal design of this system in
order to write better applications or to simply demystify that black box
called an operating system."

-- from the Preface


It seems quite good, despite the rampant split infinitives.  No code is
presented.

-- Vladimir
--
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(415) 336-2315                                  MTV12-33
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From: pjotr@ludd.luth.se (Peter Sj|str|m)
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
Subject: Re: AMIGA MACH ? Worth using ?
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:44:29 GMT
Organization: Lule} Tekniska H|gskolas Datorf|rening - Ludd

In <1gi05uINNgpm@coli-gate.coli.uni-sb.de> leibrock@fsinfo.cs.uni-sb.de (Gerhard Leibrock) writes:

>Hello,
>I did see that there exists a port of MACH for the CBM AMIGA.
>I do use an AMIGA at home equipped with 68030 and SCSI hds.
>Is it possible to run this port and of course is the port useable
>or just an early alpha release ?

	It is still not much more than the kernel. We can expect some sort
of single RSD server within 6-12 months depending on how dedicated people
are. :) Kludgemach 0.007 has just been released. It has the kernel and
some SCSI drivers now (3000, 2091, GVP) plus some other stuff.

		/Peter
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
From: jhenshaw@microsoft.com (Jeff Henshaw)
Subject: Re: Mach vs. NT?
Date: 12 Dec 92 00:02:50 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation


In article  <Bz2LFA.7qM@eis.calstate.edu>,
cwilder@eis.calstate.edu (Charlotte Wilder) writes...

| reissell@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Juhani Reissell) writes:
| > Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I had the impression that Windows NT
| > was at least loosely based on mach. The meaning of this is a bit vague
| > to me, maybe it just means that NT is a microkernel based OS? I too
| > would like some poijnters on this.
|
| I don't know if NT is "loosely" based on Mach, but I do know that NT will
| be a microkernel based operating system.  

I think it would be safer to say that NT is "loosely based on
Mach concepts" since some of the ideas (like a microkernel
architecture) carry over.  NT also has a variety of subsystems
to deal with specific modes of operation.  For example, Win32
governs, while subsystems to handle Win16 (windows 3.x) apps,
OS/2 1.x character-mode apps, and POSIX apps are handled by
their respective subsystem.  

A book entitled _Inside_Windows_NT_ is available at bookstores
and covers many of the NT concepts pretty well.  Some may want
to have a look at it.


       ,       |
               |/\
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      \|                   not a microsoft spokesperson
From: aa713@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John Brooking)
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
Subject: JOB: Unix system programmers for South Florida
Date: 17 Dec 1992 22:33:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


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From: schnee@sail.ncsl.nist.gov (Rick Schneeman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
Subject: Re: Mach vs. NT?
Date: 16 Dec 92 13:24:11 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

Charlotte Wilder (cwilder@eis.calstate.edu) wrote:
: reissell@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Juhani Reissell) writes:
: > Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I had the impression that Windows NT
: > was at least loosely based on mach. The meaning of this is a bit vague
: > to me, maybe it just means that NT is a microkernel based OS? I too
: > would like some poijnters on this.
: 
: I don't know if NT is "loosely" based on Mach, but I do know that NT will
: be a microkernel based operating system.  

Where did you get that info from - the trade rags; tisk tisk, you should
not believe everything you read unless its from the horses mouth as below:

NT is *not* a microkernel-based OS; NT is *not* based on Mach, nor is
it blah blah blah; You ask how do I know such things, well, Dave Cutler
(Microsoft Corporation), and the architect of NT made this observation 
in a speech at the Micro-Kernel Workshop on Monday April, 27 1992. Maybe
your confusing the Cairo project that Rick Rashid (from CMU, now with
Microsoft) is currently working on - why don't we speculate on that some
now....

--
=======================
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Building 225, MS-B266
Gaithersburg, MD 20899
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From: trt@duke.cs.duke.edu (Tom Truscott)
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
Subject: Re: Mach vs. NT?
Date: 13 Dec 92 19:58:04 GMT
Organization: IBM RTP

>3. NT is a micro-kernel architecture ...

Since when?  A micro-kernel is not merely modular,
it also enforces (e.g. via the MMU) a separation between
itself and other parts of the OS.  For example, networking
and file systems are implemented with user-mode processes.
Some UNIX implementations dynamically load (and unload)
those pieces into the kernel, but the result is a modular and flexible
traditional kernel -- not a micro-kernel.

When David Cutler presented NT at the
Usenix Workshop on "Micro-kernels and Other Kernels Architectures",
he opened his talk by saying he was there as one of the "Other Kernels".
Was he mistaken?

Tom Truscott
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
From: pauld@cs.washington.edu (Paul Barton-Davis)
Subject: Re: Mach vs. NT?
Organization: Precipitating Pendulums Postal Party Poopers
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 17:27:29 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.102359.27514@microsoft.com> edwardj@microsoft.com (Edward Jung) writes:
>Some facts to clear up some misconceptions:
>
>1. NT now stands for "New Technology". It did not originally
>   stand for "New Technology", but what it used to stand for
>   had nothing to do with VMS-. Dave Cutler, the software
>   "father" of VMS and DEC (as well as lesser-known projects),
>   is the chief architect for NT.

And for those wondering just what's New about the Technology in NT,
here's Cutler himself, answering the question himself:

	"If you've seen the insides of DOS, you'll know why
	 NT is 'New Technology'"

-- paul
-- 
hybrid rather than pure; compromising rather than clean;    | Militant Agnostic
distorted rather than straightforward; ambiguous rather than| I Don't Know
articulated; both-and rather than either-or; the difficult  |   and You Don't
unity of inclusion rather than the easy unity of exclusion. |   Know Either
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
From: hfcalx@techunix.technion.ac.il (Alexander Heifetz)
Subject: Help in netmemory server.
Organization: Technion, Israel Inst. of Technology
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 16:11:57 GMT

  We are trying now to make some example programs with netmemoryserver,
which provides shared memory for several tasks, and came across some problems.
After we have created netmemory object with the help of netmemory_create call,
we try to check_in with the help of netnameserver ( netname_check_in call ),
but can't success. We receive netname_check_in (ipc/send) error: invalid port
right and netname_look_up error: name not checked in.
Each task must find its local netmemory server with the help of netname_look_up
call, parent task then must success in check_in, and if it happens, each task
must call netmemory_cache on the local server with the netmemory object to
obtain a local mach memory object corresponding to the netmemory object.
After that each task must be mapped to the virtual memory by vm_map call.

  If somebody knows how to solve our problem, please help us. We would very
much appreciate this and would be also very thankful if somebody can send to
us more manual or other guide literature on netmemoryserver.

  Alex Heifetz.

 
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
From: pkc@scs.carleton.ca (Peter Choynowski)
Subject: XFree86 with PEX on a laptop ?
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:53:35 GMT

  I am looking for information on any good laptops that can run Mach with
Xfree86 and PEX.  If you have a laptop with Mach and Xfree please let me
know how well it works for you, and if you had any problems getting Mach ( 2.6
or 3.0 ) working on it.  If you have PEX working on a laptop I REALLY like to
hear from you :-)  

In addition if you know of any PD SQL databases that work under Mach please
let me know ( for example does anyone have Postgres working under Mach ).

Thanks,
Peter
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach