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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 02:33:15 EDT
From: <TLS129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: James' finger?????
 <1992Sep1.182857.23699@dvorak.amd.com> <1992Sep3.071613.4950@nmt.edu>

In article <1992Sep3.071613.4950@nmt.edu>, mystical@nmt.edu (Gurupartap Davis)
says:

>BTW, if you didn't know already, he got the burns from the stage pyrotechnics
>and I can see why...even from down on the floor,  those things will give you
>a sunburn.  Just watch out for the verse near the end of "One" where he sings
>"landmine" :)
>All in all, they gave a way better show  than G n' R (Although Axl was cool
>when he chucked his wireless mic into the crowd)
>
>"We'll never stop, we'll never quit 'cause we're Metallica"
>--guess

Yeah, I heard that "Land <BOOM> mine..." part on a tape of a Montreal show.
Pretty neat, but I guess the "landmine" came a little too close to actually
taking his sight, etc.  And of all the MetallicA or Guns N' Roses shows I've
heard on tape, M. always puts on an awesome show and GNR always sucks, mostly
due to the fact that Assl (oops...meant Axl) can't sing for shit live.  And
Slash&Izzy never seemed to be in tune w/ one another (haven't heard anything
with Izzy's replacement except from that Wembley show for Queen in March).
Since I've never been to one of these M/GNR shows, I have one quick question:
Who usually plays first?
                          -Bill
"I was me, but now he's gone"
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From: garyr@athena.ecs.csus.edu (Robert M. Gary)
Subject: Re: Kill 'Em All CD missing songs
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 01:12:22 GMT

In article <92240.171824DTG102@psuvm.psu.edu> Dave Gerber <DTG102@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>I've been gradually trying to replace my Metallica tapes with CDs.  Last
>week my Kill 'Em All tape bit the dust so I picked up the CD on my way home
>from work the other day.  When I got home and opened it, I discovered that
>Am I Evil and Blitzkrieg weren't on the CD.  =( I'm almost positive that one
>of my friends' Kill 'Em All CD has these two songs on it.  Do they make such
>a version?  Why did they drop these two songs???  I know these are the only
>two songs on the album that weren't written by Metallica, so I suppose that
>has something to do with it.  According to the cover from my defunct tape,
>Blitzkrieg was originally recorded by Blitzkrieg in 1981, and Am I Evil was
>originally recorded by Diamondhead in 1980.  Anyways, if anyone knows
>anything about this, please let me know.  I *gotta* get these on CD if they
>exist.  Thanks.
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Hmmm. I don't know why your version didn't contain the songs but my CD
does(the last two songs). My copy is pretty new but its through Columbia
House (if that makes a difference).
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| but I was already there!  |  be judged yourself.|  our thoughts are  |
|             -- AC/DC      |        -- Metallica |  misgiven.-Led Zep.|
From: kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Kill 'Em All CD missing songs
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:47:20 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <Bto9rL.24z@agora.rain.com> hopkins@agora.rain.com (Scott Hopkins) writes:
>In article <92240.171824DTG102@psuvm.psu.edu> Dave Gerber <DTG102@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>I've been gradually trying to replace my Metallica tapes with CDs.  Last
>>week my Kill 'Em All tape bit the dust so I picked up the CD on my way home
>>from work the other day.  When I got home and opened it, I discovered that
>>Am I Evil and Blitzkrieg weren't on the CD.  =( I'm almost positive that one
>>of my friends' Kill 'Em All CD has these two songs on it.  Do they make such
>>a version?  Why did they drop these two songs???  I know these are the only
>>two songs on the album that weren't written by Metallica, so I suppose that
>>has something to do with it.  According to the cover from my defunct tape,
>>Blitzkrieg was originally recorded by Blitzkrieg in 1981, and Am I Evil was
>>originally recorded by Diamondhead in 1980.  Anyways, if anyone knows
>>anything about this, please let me know.  I *gotta* get these on CD if they
>>exist.  Thanks.
>>======================================================================
>>David T. Gerber           \\\\\\\       \     \\    \\  \\\\\\\\
>
>	Well, when Kill 'Em All was first released, it appeared on the
>Megaforce Record label.  Later when Metallica moved to Electra Records,
>they added the two songs from the Creeping Death E.P..  So I assume if you
>check the label, it will say Megaforce instead of Electra!  I would keep it
>if I were you, I had a bitch of a time trying to track down the Megaforce
>copy on tape!  If it says Electra, well... I'm stumped!
>
>				-Casey Hopkins
>			"Look to the skies just before you die,
>			it's the last time you will!" - For Whom the Bell
>			Tolls
From: mike.mendis@madness.network23.com (Mike Mendis) 
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: RE: METALLICA TAPES NEEDE
Date: 30 Aug 92 21:37:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Terminal Madness BBS - Newport, RI - 401-848-9069
Reply-To: mike.mendis@madness.network23.com (Mike Mendis) 

-> Parts of it are ok, other parts suck.
->
-> Okay, whatever.  I can't really say.  I only heard a few minutes of
-> it, just the parts that I heard sucked..

Some of the picture came out a little better.  One was actually kinda
nice.
From: lavonius@kruuna.Helsinki.FI (Ville Lavonius)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Garage Days missing song (was: Re: Kill 'Em All CD missing songs)
Date: 29 Aug 92 08:26:07 GMT
	<1992Aug28.062425.19357@sfu.ca>
	<1992Aug28.162054.928@news2.cis.umn.edu>
	<TOKA.92Aug29043412@phantom.hut.fi>
Organization: Vidal Sassoon's Mosh&Go

In article <TOKA.92Aug29043412@phantom.hut.fi> toka@niksula.hut.fi (Tomi Juhani Kause) writes:

   >P.S. Anyone have a nice copy of "Garage Days RE-RE-Visited"? I had gone
   >through 4 of them, before I got one that wasn't defective, and I hear that
   >that was a common problem. I was buying it on vinyl and one side always
   >skipped...

   Actually, I have two nice but different vinyl copies of the GDRRV:

   I) Mercury
      side 1: Helpless, The Small Hours
      side 2: The Wait, Crash Course In Brain Surgery, Last Caress/Green Hell
      Made in Holland, cover printed in The Netherlands. 
   II) Vertigo
      side 1: Helpless, Crash Course in Brain Surgery
      side 2: The Small Hours, Last Caress/Green Hell
      Neither the cover nor the vinyl contain any info about the country
      of origin.

   Sorry if these are FAQs, but does anyone know the story behind these
   different versions? Was the Vertigo 4-track version released on CD?
   (Please don't flame me to death if all the US pressings of the CD have
   only 4 tracks. :-)

Vertigo-one was released in (at least) in England to get into the singles
list or something. And a requirement was to have only four songs. At least
here the Mercury version came out later, causing some to speak about 
metallica's incredible greed (not a new topic that one). Just my $/50.

   Tomi Kause   Tomi.Kause@hut.fi   "Mark my last words. They might
   Ti III	     toka@niksula.hut.fi  be what I just said."
--
Ville Lavonius	        University of Helsinki, Dept. of Computer Science
lavonius@cc.helsinki.fi : I'm the son of a gun and the gun of a son
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:18:24 EDT
From: Dave Gerber <DTG102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Kill 'Em All CD missing songs

I've been gradually trying to replace my Metallica tapes with CDs.  Last
week my Kill 'Em All tape bit the dust so I picked up the CD on my way home
from work the other day.  When I got home and opened it, I discovered that
Am I Evil and Blitzkrieg weren't on the CD.  =( I'm almost positive that one
of my friends' Kill 'Em All CD has these two songs on it.  Do they make such
a version?  Why did they drop these two songs???  I know these are the only
two songs on the album that weren't written by Metallica, so I suppose that
has something to do with it.  According to the cover from my defunct tape,
Blitzkrieg was originally recorded by Blitzkrieg in 1981, and Am I Evil was
originally recorded by Diamondhead in 1980.  Anyways, if anyone knows
anything about this, please let me know.  I *gotta* get these on CD if they
exist.  Thanks.
======================================================================
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"No one but me can save myself but it's too late" - Metallica
From: WCHE@vm.poly.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: ....
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:36:07 GMT
Organization: Polytechnic University

In article <1992Aug24.082621.1@pomona.claremont.edu>
cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu writes:
 
>        The place i've seen it was on the Japanese One "single," which has
>something like five tracks:  one, breadfan, two live tracks, and the four-track
>demo of One, which has the better lead guitar work, IYAM.  It's about $25 at
>any pretty decent record store.
 
   It's only about $12 here in the Village (New York).  Well, $12 for an used
copy, but it's still in a pretty good condition.   :)
 
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From: adg2@quads.uchicago.edu (andrew david gross)
Subject: Re: "Trapped Under Ice"
Reply-To: adg2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:15:47 GMT

Also, don't forget that "The Shortest Straw" was based on Victor Nevsky's
"Naming Names" and that "Creeping Death" is based on Exodus. (And that "The
Four Horsemen" is from Revelations.)

Also, I don't think Dante's Inferno was a novel, but I don't want to sound
too picky...
-- 
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adg2@midway.uchicago.edu                  - 2 Samuel 6:14
From: v118jxyk@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Live Fast, Die Young!)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Kill 'Em All CD missing songs
Date: 27 Aug 92 23:45:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <92240.171824DTG102@psuvm.psu.edu>, DTG102@psuvm.psu.edu (Dave Gerber) writes...
>I've been gradually trying to replace my Metallica tapes with CDs.  Last
>week my Kill 'Em All tape bit the dust so I picked up the CD on my way home
>from work the other day.  When I got home and opened it, I discovered that
>Am I Evil and Blitzkrieg weren't on the CD.  =( I'm almost positive that one
>of my friends' Kill 'Em All CD has these two songs on it.  Do they make such
>a version?  Why did they drop these two songs???  I know these are the only
>two songs on the album that weren't written by Metallica, so I suppose that
>has something to do with it.  According to the cover from my defunct tape,
>Blitzkrieg was originally recorded by Blitzkrieg in 1981, and Am I Evil was
>originally recorded by Diamondhead in 1980.  Anyways, if anyone knows
>anything about this, please let me know.  I *gotta* get these on CD if they

	You probably got the original Kill 'em All which was released by
Megaforce records, but when Metallica signed with Elecktra, all of the old
Megaforce records were taken off the market, and the new Elecktra version which
includes Blitzkrieg and Am I Evil wqs put on the market.  I have an original
Megaforce copy too, and I think that they may be worth more than the Elecktra
version which has been flooded into the market since Metallica became a major
band and came out from the underground. 
	Hope this was helpful.
					Jason
From: a2824ag@sunmanager.LRZ-Muenchen.DE (Riaan de Jager)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Uh - I like Metallica too.
Date: 4 Sep 92 12:55:32 GMT
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)

Hi   

Bought Metallica's last album. I think it's f* great.

I specially like Nothing Else matters & some other accoustic parts.

My questions are:

How many albums to they have to date?
Which are the good one's (I'm expecting people saying "ALL!" in this group)?

If I like the tracks with some accoustics, which should I get next?

Thanks.
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From: cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: origin of "ride the lightning" & steve king's hairy penis
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 25 Aug 92 20:02:03 PDT

In article <1992Aug25.181758.1@research.ptt.nl>, mschenk@research.ptt.nl (Mike Schenk +31 70 33 23926) writes:
> In article <1992Aug25.063220.1954@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Kevin.J.Feury@dartmouth.edu (Kevin J. Feury) writes:
>> okay true metallica fans, trivia buffs and those with the knowledge,
>> where did the title 'RIDE THE LIGHTNING' come from?? i know damn well
>> what it represents (the electric chair), but i'm wondering about the
>> origin of the actual saying. my interest was sparked because i'm
>> rereading king's THE STAND (the uncut version with 300 more pages) and
>> i know the character randall flagg ("thats with two g's") was the
>> inspriration for the anthrax song "among the living"  and that they
>> give credit on the liner notes for ATL. i was also struck by the fact
>> (for those of you that have read it) that lloyd as in "get pokerized"
>> and his attorney both come to the conclusion that he will be sentenced
>> to death and in the state of arizona he'll "ride the lightning" that
>> phrase is used twice in the book (before flagg rescues him) 
> 
> Hey thanks a lot, I am just reading the book and did not reach 
> that part yet. Now you have spoilt part of the fun.
> 
>     Mike

	Drag.  Anyway, perhpas the phrase "ride the lightning" is a jocular
euphemism much liked "jerked him to jESUS"?
	Just a thought.  But go buy King's "Needful Things."  It's about time
he got his shit together.  

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: Metallica Bootleg ripoff!
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:57:09 GMT

In article <92246.105704TLS129@psuvm.psu.edu>, <TLS129@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>The record store wanted a whopping $52 for it!  The guy working there said it
>had great sound, but I don't trust it unless I hear it first. 

Good strategy.  If the salesman claims to have heard it, there must be an
open copy lying around the store somewhere.  Make him play it.

>is something like 180minutes, how can you fit all that onto one CD (it wasn't
>in the standard double CD case).  Don't CD's have a max time of 85 min. or so?

Something like that.  But it is concievable that it's recorded on both sides
(to save $.05 worth of plastic??).  Money talks.  If the store doesn't want
your $52 bad enough to play it your way, find another store.

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
From: Kevin.J.Feury@dartmouth.edu (Kevin J. Feury)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Creeping Death/Jump in the Fire CD
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:50:07 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <5287@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>
pktst+@pitt.edu (Pat K Thompson) writes:

> Does anyone know anything about the _Creeping Death/Jump in the Fire_
> CD that contains : 	1. Creeping Death
> 			2. Am I Evil?
> 			3. Blitzkrieg
> 			4. Jump in the Fire
> 			5. Seek and Destroy (live)
> 			6. Phantom Lord (live)
> 
> The CD was printed in Germany on the Vertigo label.  Info. on why the
> CD was made, value, and rarity would be nice.
> 
> thanks
this is a compilation of two separate issues. the first is the original
'garage days revisited' release, featuring "creeping death", "am i
evil" and "blitzkrieg". i think it was originally issued in either '82
or '83 after the release of KEA and before RTL. the original KEA didn't
have 'am i evil' or 'blitkrieg' and 'creeping death', while a live
performance favorite, hadn't as yet been released on album, this was a
prime opportunity to release a single with two b-side covers... the
second part, with 'jump in the fire' and the two live tracks was
originally part of the "music for nations" distribution (i have the
original cassette with all three tracks on both sides) and was
metallica's first single (1982) (and far more commercial than anything
off METALLICA might i add!) later, (1990 i think?) some genius got the
two together and relased them on album cassette and cd. i had a friend
of mine in germany send it to me for about $8 (american) but i've seen
it lurking here in import stores for as much as $23.

hope it helps.

-kev.

==========================================
they say that life's a carousel
spinning fast you've got to ride it well
the world is full of kings and queens
who blind your eyes then steal your dreams
it's heaven and hell, oh well!!
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From: donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Kill 'Em All CD missing songs
Keywords: Elektra / Megaforce
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:35:08 GMT
Organization: none

In article <1992Aug31.231823.1487@newstand.syr.edu> bewillia@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Maj. Devon McKnight) writes:
>>
>>The CD I got says Elecktra on its edge, but on the back it has both the
>>Elecktra and the Megaforce logos...maybe Elecktra re-release the old
>>Megaforce version for some reason?  Anyone???
>>
>
>	Back when Elektra took over the rights to Metallica, the agreement
>stated that any release of Metallica material that had been previously
>released by Megaforce would bear the Megaforce logo.  If I remember 
>correctly, anyway.
>	My Kill 'em All disc does not contain the Megaforce logo.  It has the
>two extra songs on it.  Maybe someone could explain that one to me...
>
>				- Dev
>

Two ideas suggest themselves:

1> The agreement expired, and you have a newer copy.

                                       
Waitaminnit. 
Elektra bought the rights to only "Ride The Lightning" when the band was signed.
"Kill Em All" remained with Megaforce. Obviously, Elektra bought the rights.
<The Elektra logo would have gone on older copies, since the band was under
contract to them>
I hadn't heard, but it makes the most sense.

					--Judex--
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From: arny@vesta.unm.edu (L Alan Dye)
Subject: Re: To mosh, or not to mosh
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 17:04:36 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

I saw Metallica bury GnR out in Las Cruces last week and I'm still recovering!!!
In answer to your question, there were no seats on the floor (it was an open stadium, and as someone already mentioned, that may be why....). There were, however, several mosh pits jumpin' all evening. The security spuds kept breaking up the pits while Faith No More was on (a BUFF show I might add), but by the time Metallica was on, there was no way to control the crowd and they just sorta gave up. I moshed for almost 4 straight hours (from the time the show with FNM started until Metallica left the stage 



(for the third time) around 10:15). I left with some girl's hair in my mouth, dripping with sweat, tired and sore in every joint, with an enormous grin on my face (sounds like sex, doesn't it?). Anyway, enjoy the show!!!!

Arny
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From: bewillia@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Maj. Devon McKnight)
Subject: Re: Kill 'Em All CD missing songs
Keywords: Elektra / Megaforce
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 23:18:23 EDT

>
>The CD I got says Elecktra on its edge, but on the back it has both the
>Elecktra and the Megaforce logos...maybe Elecktra re-release the old
>Megaforce version for some reason?  Anyone???
>

	Back when Elektra took over the rights to Metallica, the agreement
stated that any release of Metallica material that had been previously
released by Megaforce would bear the Megaforce logo.  If I remember 
correctly, anyway.
	My Kill 'em All disc does not contain the Megaforce logo.  It has the
two extra songs on it.  Maybe someone could explain that one to me...

				- Dev

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From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx03.louisville.edu (Shaitan)
Subject: Re: Metallica box set
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: University of Louisville
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 02:26:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.000856.6292@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, ehead@nyx.cs.du.edu (eddie head)           writes...

> 
>So, Enter Sandman did not have the crib death lyrics 'cos it was to 'sick'?
>This from the band who released a cover of 'So What'.......

 . .where it would go unnoticed by the majority of Metallica financial
supporters and as a result wouldn't affect the sales in an averse way (what a
coincidence!). . .

--Shaitan--

>Eddie.
> 

Thus Metallica is censoring themselves.  That's okay--it's what they chose to
do, for their own reasons. . .bummer, though, nonetheless.

--Shaitan--

"We march to drums of our own choosing,
 Each of them keeps different time,
 As you are free to live your own life,
 So I am free to live mine."   --Skyclad

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