From: jodar@aludra.usc.edu (Nicholas Jodar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Subject: Re: Hatred? What Hatred?
Date: 15 Dec 1992 19:12:51 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu
Summary: Let's stomp hatred out of existence....
Keywords: Jihad


Assalamu Alaikum....

Auzu Billahi Min Ash-Shaitan Nirajeem.  Bismillah...

In article <1992Dec15.184717.21513@dxcern.cern.ch> nils@suca01.cern.ch (Nils-Joar Hoimyr) writes:
>
>Victor W.:  (And Khalid S.)
>
>Do you think we ever will get peace if you judge people by nationality and 
>not for their behaviour and opinions?

Of course we won't.

>I do indeed agree that war-criminals in Bosnia-Herzegovina should be stopped 
>and punished for their crimes.  I do also consider the Milosevic regime in 
>Serbia and his puppets in Bosnia responsible for plenty of the horrible things 
>going on.  But most Serbs are normal people like you and I, and would like to 
>stop this war and punish criminals as well. (if they know what is really going
>on.)  

Some of the Serbs DO know what's going on, AND are against the
actions of their government.  However, these are the same Serbs 
who are 'disappearing'....

>Be reasonable and do not stir up the hatred even more!
>
>Croatia is not exacly innocent in this war either, 

There are two kinds of guilt:  Those who do the dirty deed, and 
those who refuse to fight it.  Both kinds will be answered for 
on Judgement Day.  In full....  

>and if one looks at some 
>of the postings with Croat origin in this newsgroups, it is easy to become 
>frightened when  you see that educated people with access to a University 
>network have such primitive views.   It looks like some of you would be more
>than happy if Serbia was bombed to pieces, and thousands of civilians were 
>killed.  

Rationality?  Whassat?

>The "Hate mail" sent to Jovan Popovic by Khalid Shah is containg the same 
>Jihad (holy war) stuff as Serbian Warlords use to justify the war in Bosnia.  

>>BUZZ!<<

Sorry.  Not true.

Jihad:  striving (in the Cause of Allah); specifically, to fight
for Truth, Justice, and Freedom from Oppression; main objective
being to establish an Islamic government to oversee the
protection of Muslim and Dhimmi (non-Muslim) rights.

Nothing in there about hate....  In fact, if a person kills
another out of hate, even for a 'valid' reason, they go to Hell.
ESPECIALLY Muslims.  (They know better than that.)

>I'm sure Kahlid Shah
>is not Bosnian, and we all know that claims that the official B-H government 
>has had a policy of "jihad" towards Serbs is basically Serbian propaganda 
>bullshit. 

Bosnia currently has no policy of Jihad.  At least, they didn't
two nights ago, when I heard from President Itzebegovic.

Of course, there are currently over 3000 Mujahideen in Bosnia,
and hundreds of thousands in waiting.  It will soon reach the
point, inshallah, where the Serbs will force the issue.  (Any
day, now....)

The only thing that has kept the Bosnian Muslims from declaring
Jihad is the fear of the non-Muslims.  But the Serbs (and Croats)
are killing off all of those who object to Jihad....

>Any attempts to defend such attempts to increase the hatred even more are 
>disgusting, nothing else.
>
>Professor Victor Wickerhauser, you should be ashamed of yourself!

I'd say that we all have much to be ashamed of....  I, for one,
am sitting in a cozy environment, eating real food, while people
all over the world are being tortured, slaughtered, and starved.
My only consolation is that I'll be able to leave for Bosnia
soon, inshallah.

>p.s.   Thanks to Ana M. Shane for trying to establish a more reasonable 
>discussion on this group.  

Ditto.

>Are anyone aware of efforts from Western countries to help the Serbian 
>opposition to establish alternative TV-senders to Milosevic-controlled 
>TV-Serbia? 

I haven't heard anything in the past week or so, but there's
always hope....

-AQ