HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: flloyd@l1-a.West.Sun.COM (Fred Lloyd [Phoenix SE])
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Tandy Bashing
Date: 16 Dec 1992 23:25:20 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Phoenix, AZ
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: l1-a.west.sun.com

In article <1992Dec16.150649.17513@pool.info.sunyit.edu>
gpmh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Patrick Hurley) writes:
>First my question:
>
>     Does anyone know of an address and/or name for the Tandy
>corporation where an unhappy customer can send a complaint??

Sure:  One Tandy Square, Fort Worth, TX  76100

Also try  /dev/null...

>
>Now my complaint:
>
[ deleted ]
>
>     I now agree wholeheartedly with many of the opinions
>that were expressed here.  I recently had the privilege of
>visiting a local Radio Shack and receiving assistance from a
>rude, unprofessional, discourteous, and technically
>incompetent salesperson.  The mere fact that this person was
>incompetent did not bother me as much as the fact that he
>insisted on proving it to me in a rather boisterous fashion.
>All of this in front of a co-worker and a store full of
>people.... at no additional charge!!!

It's called mass merchandising - deal with it.   :-)

I only ask two questions:  1) do you have <item>?, and 2) how much does
<item> cost?  Ask any more than that and you're overstepping the bounds
of MacMerchandising.  "I'll take two cheeseburgers, fries and a coke.
Oh, and by the way, do you have any which are prepared without
monosodium glutamate and are completely free of nitrides?"  What do you
mean "What is monosodium glutamate????", "Bozo!"  "I wann'a talk to the
manager....."

Hrrumph!  I'm eating at Burger King from now on......


-fred  "Make that TWO fries and a DB-25!"

-- 
[ Fred Lloyd, AA7BQ                             Fred.Lloyd@West.Sun.COM ]
[ Sun Microsystems,           Southwest Area Solaris Transition Manager ]
[ Phoenix, AZ         - The future starts today! -       (602) 275-4242 ]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: mellob@cary104.its.rpi.edu (Bugs Bunny)
Subject: scanner news group
Reply-To: mellob@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:30:25 GMT



> From: LAPORTEJ@wl.aecl.CA
> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
> Subject: Scanner news group
> Date: 14 Dec 92 17:50:31 GMT
> Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
> Lines: 9
> Message-ID: <01GSB1GZV2SY95NNDC@wl.aecl.ca>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
> Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

> I recently saw reference to a news group alt.radio.scanner.
> I have no access to this group it seems. There is no such listing
> for this newsgroup on my system. I have full Internet capability
> ie FTP /Telcom etc. Can anyone advise if this group exist?
> Is it archived on a machine I can FTP to? Who may be the moderator?
> Who could I e-maul inquiries to? Tnx for any help in advance.
> As this is outside the scope of this digest possibly the best would 
> be to respond via e-mail to Laportej@wl.aecl.ca .I do read the disgest
> for this newsgroup daily..

 I think everybody wouldbe interested in this info and i know I would,
	I apparently do not have the option to subscribe to alt.radio.scanner 		         either. So please POST it if you GOT it.



      -Brett      N1LAG
From: rab@hal.CWRU.Edu (Roger Bielefeld)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: DX Bulletin 60  ARLD060
Date: 14 Dec 1992 02:01:56 GMT
Organization: CWRU Epidemiology & Biostatistics
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.cwru.edu

In article <1992Dec11.053116.1236@n8emr.cmhnet.org> gws writes:

> <lines deleted>
>
>WALLIS.  FW/Y31OO and FW/Y58IO have been reported on 40 meter CW
>between
>NIUE.  JA3JM and JA3JA are active as ZK2XI and ZK2XJ.  Check around
>
> <remainder deleted>

This DX bulletin arrived with the info for Wallis truncated.
I worked FW/Y58IO on 13 Dec 92 at 2122z on 10m CW.  Does
anyone have the QSL information?  (There's no Y58IO in my 91 CB.)

Thanks and 73,
Roger AA8DV

--
Roger Bielefeld     Case Western Reserve University
rab@hal.cwru.edu    Cleveland, Ohio  USA
From: oler@rho.uleth.CA (Cary Oler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Daily Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for 19 December
Date: 20 Dec 92 00:18:56 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

!!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 353, 12/18/92
10.7 FLUX=149.8  90-AVG=136        SSN=157      BKI=2111 1121  BAI=007
BGND-XRAY=B6.2     FLU1=1.1E+05  FLU10=9.5E+03  PKI=2112 1222  PAI=005
  BOU-DEV=012,006,008,009,21057,006,012,21536   DEV-AVG=-2861 NT     SWF=00:000
 XRAY-MAX= C1.5   @ 0443UT    XRAY-MIN= B5.8   @ 2224UT   XRAY-AVG= B7.4
NEUTN-MAX= +002%  @ 0840UT   NEUTN-MIN= -003%  @ 0450UT  NEUTN-AVG= -0.2%
  PCA-MAX= +0.1DB @ 0905UT     PCA-MIN= -0.4DB @ 1315UT    PCA-AVG= -0.0DB
BOUTF-MAX=55422NT @ 0318UT   BOUTF-MIN=55398NT @ 1815UT  BOUTF-AVG=55414NT
GOES7-MAX=P:+099NT@ 1849UT   GOES7-MIN=N:+004NT@ 0908UT  G7-AVG=+074,+037,+008
GOES6-MAX=P:+120NT@ 1847UT   GOES6-MIN=E:-010NT@ 0113UT  G6-AVG=+092,-002,+042
 FLUXFCST=STD:150,155,165;SESC:150,155,165 BAI/PAI-FCST=020,015,010/020,015,010
    KFCST=3443 3334 3333 3333  27DAY-AP=008,014   27DAY-KP=4320 0011 1124 4333
 WARNINGS=
   ALERTS=
!!END-DATA!!
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: rrgd50@email.sps.mot.com (Chris Terwilliger)
Subject: inverted Vee
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Organization: Motorola
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:02:19 GMT

According to theory, an inverted vee has added reactance when compared
to a normal dipole and therefore needs to be about 6% shorter for a
given frequency.  Question is, is this reactance due to the proximity
of the end points to ground (usual installation of a vee) or to the
angle formed by the vee?  How will this be affected by moving the whole
vee up about 20 feet (rooftop)?


* Chris Terwilliger, KB7PPT                rrgd50@email.sps.mot.com *
* Motorola                        "And now, the sequence of events, *
* 2100 E. Elliot Rd. EL374         in no particular order."         *
* Tempe, AZ  85284                                     - Dan Rather *
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: harp@bnr.ca (Alan Harp)
Subject: Re: Postage for Russian QSLs: Help!
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Research Triangle Park, NC
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:21:40 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.172849.24490@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> lkay@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (leonard kay) writes:
>Can anyone who has sent direct QSLs lately to anywhere in the former
>USSR tell me what they used for return postage (if anything)?
>I haven't sent a direct QSL there in about a year and recently 
>worked a UF8 and a 4K2 both with UA9 managers.

>I've heard rumours from friends ranging from 'everything gets 
>opened up and pilfered' to 'direct works OK, just don't
>trust the buros'.

>Anyone wanna please give me some hard facts?

>Thanks & 73,

>Len 


>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Dr. Leonard Kay, KB2R               | "But we are not dealing with the
> Electrical and Computer Engineering |  normal world. We are chasing DX."
> Northeastern University, Boston     |    -- W9KNI, 'The Complete DXer'
> NU ARC: W1KBN 145.31(-)             |
> Packet: KB2R@K1EA                   | #include <disclaimer.h> 
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
I have had problems communicating by mail With UC2AAA.  He says that
Mail comes to Moscow.  Mail gets delivered within the Moscow area without
to many problems.  However if the mail gets on a train and is from a foreign
country it is likely to get pilfered.  Most mail from the USA has a few
dollars in it.  $5 is equal  to about a week's salary to the average 
russian.  Most mail never reaches it's destination.  They have a saying
that goes something like "All  thieves aren't postal employees but all
postal employees are thieves".  The people are defenseless from this problem.

People who receive mail from outside are getting it sent via messengers who
travel between countries.

Many amateurs in the CIS have QSL managers outside the country.  The best
path is via these managers.  The bureaus aren't working right now either.

This is a sad situation.  I don't expect it to change very soon either.

****************************************************************************
* Alan Harp K4PB     *     Bell-Northern Research      *   CW FOREVER      *
* mail: harp@bnr.ca  *   Research Triangle Park, NC    *                   *
****************************************************************************
From: alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:47:45 GMT
Subject: Re: Longwires at VHF
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

In rec.radio.amateur.misc, 9210466@ul.ie writes:

>    Anyone out there used longwires on VHF and above?
>    I am interested in hearing other peoples experiences 
>    with this. Our club used one for a VHF field day and 
>    as far as I heard they were quite pleased with the results.
>    Only problem was changing the directivity..

A rhombic is basically a 4-element longwire.  I have heard of people
successfully using rhombics for VHF TV reception.  The disadvantages
are (of course) that they are not directional and their size.
6 wavelengths per leg works out to something like 180 feet from
end to end.

AL N1AL

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: woodward@bert.eecs.uic.edu (Jeff Woodward)
Subject: HF/SSB/CW rig for sale
Summary: TEN/TEC OMNI-D for sale
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:40:03 GMT

i have a ten/etc omni-d ssb/cw tranceiver for sale.  if you like
cw, there isn't a rig in the world that offers a better cw qso.
rig/power supply/mike/etc/external vfo all for $700.  just
back from $150 factory overhaul/alignment, so everything is
in perfect working order.  

73's,
woody wb9cyi 708-658-6436
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel)
Subject: HAM Radio Clubs/Organizations in Boca Raton?
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 15:26:11 GMT

I just moved to Boca Raton and am interested in joining local ham radio
clubs/organizations. Can someone send me addresses/phone #s of clubs
in the area? Thanks.
-- 
Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>
 
The Columbia River is now the most radioactive river in the U.S.

This environmental/nuclear nightmare, one of a series, brought to you
courtesy of Westinghouse and General ("We Bring Good Things to Life")
Electric.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: brewer@anarky.enet.dec.com (John Brewer)
Subject: Re: FCC woes, what can be done?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: 16 DEC 92 19:33:51    


In article <1992Dec16.220752.27420@wam.umd.edu>, ham@wam.umd.edu (Scott Richard Rosenfeld) writes...
> 
>I have only been a ham for 8 years, but I have heard the stories.
>People having to travel to New York, or Baltimore, or D.C. on a day
>scheduled every couple of months, to take an examination given by
>FCC examiners.  The exams were apparently very stressful, and quite
>a bit more difficult than they are today.
>
	You got that right! In NM there was 2 exam sessions a year.
	Taking a CW sending test was also a special treat in front
	of 40 other people and the FCC guy! :-)

>do a good job on...what?  DATA ENTRY.  How hard is it to do?  This is
>one of those areas where putting more people on the job will result in
>a direct performance improvement.
> 
	Might be an interesting idea to write some code to reclaim some
	of the 1x2 and 1x3 calls that the FCC software doesnt seem
	to be able to handle.
	/john


      -------------------------------------------------------
      | John Brewer | Internet: brewer@anarky.enet.dec.com  |
      |   wb5oau    | Packet  | wb5oau@wb2ars               |
      -------------------------------------------------------
From: tskelton@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Tom Skelton)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: QSL practices F6FNU, FR5DX
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:44:03 GMT
Reply-To: tskelton@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Tom Skelton)
Distribution: world
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

Third time I've tried..hope it works this time.  Any whoooo
Would all you netters who have any experience (good or bad)
getting QSLs from FR5DX or stations managed by F6FNU please
forward to me.  Many of the local packet users and DX'ers
have complained vehemently about F6FNU and FR5DX.  This is not
a flame, just a survey.  As a baseline, we all need to remember
that overseas postage to USA is very expensive and a *green
stamp* probably does not cut it anymore.
Thanks in advance for any info. 73, Tom WB4IUX
ps:  I got my cards from FR5DX (80 - 10 meters), but I had to send
5 green stamps .... and I got the card back promptly thru the buro!


--
From: leec@ncatfyv.uark.EDU (Lee Clanton)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: longindex
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:10:15 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

longindex
From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Subject: Re: Is the ICOMR1 a good receiver
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 02:05:27 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <1992Dec19.234258.12779@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> laborde@oak.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Gregory R. LaBorde) writes:
>
>No, unfortunately this sort of behaviour is not an intermod problem. I know
>because the R1 _also_ has an intermod problem.

Bill Cheek (of scanner modification fame) did a lengthy analysis of the R1
before deciding he wasn't going to try upgrading it.

First, there is no front-end AGC.

Second, there seem to be internally generated spurs from some time base
(the CPU?) which produce mixing products, generating the false signals
you notice. The now-defunct Raycom filter upgrade fixed this ...
it sure did on my R1.


-- 
_______________________________Mike Schuster________________________________
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The Portal (R) System: schuster@shell.portal.com | MCI Mail,GEnie: MSCHUSTER
From: oo7@ut-emx.uucp (Derek Wills)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: DXers
Keywords: rude? never!
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:46:54 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas

zslf08@trc.amoco.com (Steven L. Farmer WA5RPF) says:

In article <BXTJVB2w164w@ham.almanac.bc.ca>, emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca writes:
[stuff deleted...]
> DX'ers are pests. They are noisy, rude and inconsiderate. (And that's not 
> even mentioning the cheats who use lists).

You simply don't hear the dxers who refrain from boorish behavior.  We are
most assuredly in the majority, and it's a mistake to generalize from the
rudeness of a few to insult all of us.  Our world has an ample supply of
bigotry already.  Please don't add more.
---------------------

Steve is right.  You hardly ever hear Real[tm] DXers on the air.   They
lurk, listen, tune around, pounce, then repeat ad lib.  I spend perhaps
2 mins out of every hour actually transmitting, and the rest listening.

What I find inconsiderate is the people who get on 20m SSB in the morning
to discuss the weather with friends in the next state, right on top of a
DX station that you can only hear for half an hour at that time of day,
and then many dB below the chattering.  It's so depressing to tune the
band for Asian stations, and have to listen to OFs ragchewing over their
first cup of coffee.

I would love to see a band plan that restricted same-continent QSOs to
one section of the band, leaving another part for intercontinental QSOs.
I'm not optimistic that it would ever work, of course.

Anyway, as Steve says, it is ridiculous to judge a whole class of people
by the excesses of the few.  I wonder what has happened to logic when I
read the periodic posts that say "all the people causing trouble on 14313
are Extras, proving that the cw tests are meaningless".  It's like he
Europeans believing that all Americans are rich, simply because the only
ones they see are the ones rich enough to travel to Europe.

Anyway, the Real DX is done on cw, so nyah nyah.


Derek Wills (AA5BT, G3NMX)
Department of Astronomy, University of Texas, 
Austin TX 78712.  (512-471-1392)
oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu 
oo7@emx.utexas.edu
From: bennett@erich.triumf.ca (P.Bennett)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Morse code upgrading
Date: 16 Dec 92 06:33:00 GMT
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: erich.triumf.ca
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <14570562@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com>, alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom) writes...
>In rec.radio.amateur.misc, gcouger@olesun.okstate.edu (Gordon Couger) writes:
> 
>>Learning code for me was very difficult. Actually using code is a lot
>>more fun to me than listing to a computer spew out code. 
> 
>A key point.  CW tapes are probably the best way to go from 0 to 5 wpm,
>but they sure do get boring after awhile.  I recommend you get on the 80
>or 15 meter Novice band as soon as you have the privileges, and get

I would strongly recommend NOT aiming for 5WPM, to get a novice license, then
trying to work up.  You should start at 10 - 12 WPM, learning a few letters at
a time.  It will be little harder to learn this way, but you will have (nearly)
full priveledges immediately.

At 5 WPM, you can copy by essentially "looking it up in a table", even if the
table is all in your head. This method won't work over 8 - 10 wpm, so you have
to re-learn the code, with a new method, to get over this speed.  Learning
initially at the higher speed avoids the need to re-learn as you speed up
(although there may be another transition at a higher speed).  The only problem
with learning at a high speed, is that it may be hard to copy 5 wpm!

Peter Bennett VE7CEI                | Vessels shall be deemed to be in sight
Internet: bennett@erich.triumf.ca   | of one another only when one can be
Bitnet:   bennett@triumfer          | observed visually from the other
TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., Canada     |                          ColRegs 3(k)
From: groverc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Grover Cleveland)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: CT BBS Phone Number Please
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:54:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

Can someone provide me with the tel number of the CT BBS?

Also I'd like to know if this is only for registered users.
I haven't been able to get my earlier version to work properly
so I haven't yet decided to register.           

thanks,

Grover  WT6P
From: miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ky Scanner Law - Update
Date: 12 Dec 92 05:36:24 GMT
    <1992Dec8.130631.12903@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> 
    <1992Dec10.220007.24637@ttinews.tti.com>
Organization: University of Kentucky, USA. -5 GMT

sorgatz@avatar.tti.com (sorgatz) writes:

> Is that before or after one goes a round with a stupid jerk with a 
>badge-on that rips a radio out from under your dashboard? ;-)
> All of which is a symptom of the sad state of affairs that typifies
>backwoods law enforcement in general. Bunch of uninformed bozos with
>the right to harrass and confiscate...jeez! If the cops in Los Angeles
>tried anything like that the Courts would burn them at the stake! I'm

 you mean like they did in the Rodney King trial?
    
>glad I don't live in Kentucky, the temptation to provoke an incident
>with every ignorant hick cop that didn't read his mail from HQ would 
>be too much to resist.

 here in lexington kentucky, you better have a college degree if you want
 to be a cop. the state police go through a fairly decent training process.
 as well. there are assholes, but those are in every state... yours too.

>( "Los Angeles, CA. The NIGHT-CLUBBING Capitol of America!" -R. King )
>-Avatar-> (aka: Erik K. Sorgatz) KB6LUY           +-------------------------+
From: a-kevinp@microsoft.COM (Kevin Purcell, Rho)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: INFO-HAMS is a bogus list?
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:59:33 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

SM7LEK says:

Is this list just a bogus list
made and sent out by someone for his own amusement?

I say, I say, I say:

I think they finally found out.

OK, I'm not really a ham I'm just the alpha version of a new 
intelligent agent product from Microsoft. They fed me all the ARRL 
technical publications and I just spout out what is needed. You should 
have guessed it from the call. The beta should be released in June and 
will come preset with the call W7BG. The voice and CW modules will be 
released at a later date. The spelling mistakes are all deliberate, 
they're just to make me seem more human.

I beleive Al N1AL is a similar construct from Apple (the name is a give 
away) running on a Quadra under Pink.

And Gary I beleive is a university research project, he still seems a 
little buggy ;-)

IBM is beleived to be working on an SSB operator simulator called 
FooBARF for 14313 to run under OS/2 (it is said to be indistingushable 
from the real thing) but it'll probably never ship. Their model just 
mutters JCL error codes to occupy the frequency (IEHFONPT -- Patch not 
legal in this context. Dump follows).

N7WIM -- Now 7 Work In Microsoft
G8UDP -- Grr 8 Unusual Damm Phonetics

Merry christmas, happy hannuka, happy solstice, happy kwanzaa to all 
our readers. Beep.

73 de Kevin Purcell N7WIM/G8UDP (Seattle, WA)          a-kevinp@microsoft.com
Do your interests match mine? If so call me. I'd like to hear from you.
QRP, Packet, TCP/IP, Digital voice, Macintosh, Spread Spectrum, Homebrew,
Satellites, Antenna design, Propagation, VHF/UHF weak signal, Microwave, QEX


Not enough memory to complete this operation. Close some windows and 
try again.

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: 5rtrtrt@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (richard.e.stealey)
Subject: Re: DX Etiquette (an oxymoron)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:27:09 GMT

> 
> Chuck Harris - WA3UQV
> chuck@eng.umd.edu
> 
> ps.  If you were just kidding (and I hope you were); never mind.

Maybe you should find out if he's kidding first before you post such
a blast of someone (and possibly end up with your foot in your own 
mouth, Chuck).
Lighten up, and have fun.  Isn't that what this is all about?

Incidentally, I have been on a DXpedition (Navassa 1988) and I can tell
you that with advanced planning one of the highlights of the DXpedition
was being able to keep short skeds with the families back home.  One of
the greatest thrills in my 28 yrs as a ham was hearing my daughters 
voice on a phone patch from Navassa.  I will also tell you that we 
purposly limited the amount of time that we devoted to such activities.
Those skeds are VERY important.  One of our skeds was with a doctor on
Jamaica, 6Y5EE, and we needed to talk with him urgently when one of 
the guys helping us unload got burned with battery acid.
So, give the DXers a break.  Follow their instructions, and requests, 
and it will work out best for everyone.

The American ops are fantastic.  I remember many times that there 
were huge pileups of mostly Americans, and we'd ask them to QRX while
we listened for Europeans or JA's, and 99% of them would.  Of course
there are exceptions, but they can be dealt with.  One effective technique
is to work them and not write the call in the log ....   

Rick    KT2Q