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From: cal@ee.ryerson.ca (Calvin Henry-Cotnam)
Subject: Re: flamers and two new discussions
Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute, Toronto
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:54:19 GMT

tina@diamond.UUCP (Tina Cacolice) writes:
>
>By the way, in my own defense, I maintain that he closes his mouth at
>the end of the noise, hence what I wrote as a "p" in "Doh-p."
>I guess the "l" thing would be similar.  He used to always slap his forehead,
>too, but now he doesn't.
>

All this discussion about what Homer actually says when he says "D'oh!"
reminds me of the arguement about whether the honking noise that the
Road Runner made was "Beep beep" or "Meep meep".

It's interesting to listen to, but people will hear what they want
to hear and a solid arguement regarding thier perception simply cannot
be made.


Calvin Henry-Cotnam, CATE          |     MY CANADA INCLUDES CANADIANS!
Ryerson Polytechnical Institute    |
Toronto, Ontario, Canada           |              'nuff said.
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: "john russell" <john.russell@canrem.com>
Subject: titles with names
Reply-To: "john russell" <john.russell@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 7 Nov 92 16:07:41 EST

When Flanders Failed == "In Flanders' Fields", a poem about WWI.

John
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From: bj835@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tim Connors)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Question about the Head...
Date: 11 Nov 1992 23:59:15 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Here's my guess, based on an unscientific survey of Central
American names, and probably subject to the vagaries of 
competing transliteration systems:
	XTOPOLOPLCOATL.
-- 
TJC
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Smithers Choice (was Marge Gets a Job (11/5/992))
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:34:12 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

tina@diamond.UUCP (Tina Cacolice) writes:

>>--On the Smithers/Burns relationship: this episode has confirmed for
>>me what I suspected all along...that Smithers' view of Burns is
>>NOT a manifestation of a general attraction to men, but rather a
>>particular attraction to Burns.  In other words, Smithers isn't
>>homosexual, he's Burnsexual (or whatever).  The distinction is,
>>I think, an important one...as nonsensical alt.Simpsons hair-
>>splitting goes, anyway.
>>--Rich Stoller, Dickinson College

>I agree!!  He seems to really HATE Homer, as well as anyone else
>who at any point in time gets ANY attention from Mr. Burns.

Hey! If *you* were a gay man, would *you* be interested in
*Homer* ??
(Seems only logical to me.)

>(By the way, that's a good word, "Burnsexual."  I like it.)
(Yeah, it's an interesting word, but I think "Homersexual"
 is closer to the truth.)

				James Willer
[any opinions above are already registered with the federal government]
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Date: Thu,  5 Nov 1992 13:04:00 -0500 
From: "Adam K. Rixey" <ar2w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: I&STM reference help

	Argh!  There was one scene that seemed VERY familiar to me, but I can't
for the life of me place it - it was when Grampa was trying to take the
other man's teeth and had a gun pulled on him.  Can anybody place the
reference???

	- AkR
	- ar2w@andrew.cmu.edu
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From: tina@diamond.UUCP (Tina Cacolice)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: flamers and two new discussions
Date: 10 Nov 1992 10:42:07 -0500
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
Distribution: world
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>
>tina@diamond.UUCP (Tina Cacolice) writes:
>
>>***commentary***
>
>>I know I'm new to this group, but, in reference to:
>
>>>Do you honestly think that the writers for the show shrewdly insert
>>>references to TV movies from the mid-seventies so that only you and the
>>>five other people who saw the film could recognize that?
>>>Use your head!  These things are cliches, spoofs, genre references, etc.
>>>Not specific references to little teeny world you've built for yourself. 
>>>If this is all wrong, then Homer himself is a reference to Roseanne Barr,
>>>because she's fat too.
>
>>If these people don't LIKE this stuff, why do they waste their time
>>reading it?
>
>>I enjoy this stuff, but I do find it very difficult to go through 100's
>>of mail messages a week.  If I didn't enjoy it, I wouldn't do it.
>
>>I know its been a while, but I seem to remember this newsgroup called 
>>"flames" or something similar, where people who just hated other people
>>or liked to complain or whatever could go and be themselves.
>
>I think you just made the author of the original post's point very well. 
>If you would have taken time out to actually *READ* the original post, you
>would have noticed that he never said anything at all about not liking the
>SImpson's. Rather, he argued that these "references" as being discussed on
>this group are perhaps more the product of a broader culture as opposed to
>isolated incidents in you & your sheltered friends lives.  The point is,
>if you like the stuff *THAT"S GREAT*.  If you like the way the Simpson's
>mirrors our cultural heritage *THAT"S EVEN BETTER*.  Now, instead of
>worrying about how to pigeon-hole isolated incidents in the series, why
>not just go live ?
>

Pardon me, but I *DID* in fact, read the whole message.  And I STILL maintain
that if you don't like to pick things apart and discuss them, then
you shouldn't be reading this bboard/mailing list.

Or, at the very least, you have entirely NO business flaming those who
DO like to pick things apart.  This is the best mode we have in which
to do this.

Perhaps we need to make sure some word or phrase appears in the subject
line, like "Detailed Reference -- those who tink they have more of a life
than me need not read."



-- 

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					-- responses to tina@rjlg.com
From: wagenfuh@huey.udel.edu (Karl Wagenfuehr)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: DYNs for "Halloween Special" and "Itchy & Scratchy The Movie"
Date: 7 Nov 92 19:57:57 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark

In article <Jym.6Nov1992.1327@naughty-peahen> jym@mica.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer) writes:
>=o= Didja notice...
>   ...that Snowball died four years ago, but her gravestone
>      lists 1990 as the year of her death?  (Oops!)
>   ...the wooden tombstone for Snowball (as depicted in the
>      _Uncensored_Family_Album_) has been upgraded?

As I recall (and I'm too lazy to cue up the ol' VCR to confirm this,
but I recall *pretty* strongly...), Bart and Lisa use the male pronoun
when refering to SBI in this episode; they also use the number I in
refering to SBI...

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From: trey@godzilla.larc.nasa.gov (Trey Arthur)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Oprah interview
Date: 5 Nov 1992 17:54:24 GMT
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In article <1dbc3gINNppp@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen) writes:
|> 
|> Ed A. Mills writes:
|> 
|> >Oprah's interview with the Simpson's was smashing! Also,
|> >the interviews with Matt & the players were great.  I learned
|> >more about the making of The Simpsons in that 15 minutes
|> >than in years of reading this group & watching the show
|> >itself..  Must see. 2 thumbs up!! 
|> 
|> Agreed. Did you notice that when Oprah was driving in the
|> car to the Simpson's house she said she was in "Springfield,
|> U.S.A."? I think this reveals that Groening does not intend
|> us to know what state Springfield is in.
|> 

Well, we know Springfield is not in Canada.  

|> Homer & Bart:  "Oprah."

and Lisa!  (hard to believe)

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From: c8923075@mystra.newcastle.edu.au (Chris Baird)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Itchy & Scratchy & Paul,,
Date: 10 Nov 1992 06:53:38 -0500
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
Distribution: world
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Summary: Oh hell; yet another newsgroup has gone the way of rec.arts.startrek


Uh-oh,,

Apparently our Australian Prime Minister, Paul Keating, had his
interest sparked while watching[?!] ``Itchy & Scratchy & Marge''...
that episode's commentary on just how far censorship should go,
primerly in the family viewing hours.

The Oz media has only shown a minor interest in the renewed TV
violence debate [invested interest?], and I only found out by chance.
Has any one else heard more about this?

(I wonder if PK's aware of the `kindler, gentler' censored episodes
that are shown over here?  If enough attention is drawn to the fact,
it'd be just what I need for the campaign to have the show's
classification bumped up from "G" to "PGR", heh heh.)

BTW, [this is sorta privileged info..]  Network Ten's programming
department is in complete organizational disarray,, No one knows when
the 4th season (or the late 3rd season) episodes will air in
Australia.

-- 
Chris Baird,,  <c8923075@mystra.newcastle.edu.au>
From: bj835@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tim Connors)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: I&S: The Movie : The times they are a changin'
Date: 12 Nov 1992 00:11:53 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Here's something I don't think anyone has mentioned about the
sequence where Homer picks a number between 1 and 40...

	I don't have the FAQ in front of me, but I seem to recall
that Homer was born in 1955.  In other words, Homer has picked
his own age, 37, as his "random" number.  Thus, Marge picks the
number not by luck, but because she knows how Homey's "mind"
"works" ... much funnier than if she just happened to stumble 
on the number.  Also consistent with the fact that Marge goes 
along with the "pick a number" game because she knows Homey
won't think to lie if she picks correctly...
	Typical of the multi-layered humor that makes 
this the best show on TV.

-- 
TJC
bj835                     Gabba gabba hey!
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: djm0238@zeus.tamu.edu (Heath "H-man" Allyn)
Subject: Oprah interview
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 08:42:00 GMT


	When was this on? Was it just a normal Oprah with the simnpsons on or 
some kind of special? Where might I see it? Tapes anyone???
		
		H-man


Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: mah@cs.UAlberta.CA (Dean S. Mah)
Subject: Zombies
Keywords: Sisyphus
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 00:43:22 GMT

   Did anyone else catch the refernce to Sisyphus?  The zombies are all
 returning to there graves and one zombie says: "Still pushing that
 rock?"

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Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Power Goes And My Tape Goes...UGH!
From: ngsippel@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu
Date: 4 Nov 92 10:32:00 EDT
Organization: Watch Ren And Stimpy or Else!

I set up my tape for the Simpsons last night and went to my University
to take a test.  Horror of horrors!  Power went out in my hometown and
my tape got 30 minutes of fuzz!  What am I going to do now?

UGH!

Does someone know if I can convince the local FOX affiliate to play
it again sometime or something?  BTW, I live near Cincinnati, Ohio.

P.S. I wanted to see I&S!  Wah!

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From: tina@rjlg.COM (Tina Cacolice)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: mmmm....Soylent Green...
Date: 5 Nov 1992 17:42:46 -0500
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
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>
>This was in the Election Day special.  I think it's the best quote I've heard
>from the Simpsons in a long time!!
>
>Although no one I watched with got it... so if anyone DIDN'T get it, go rush
>out and see the movie Soylent Green.  It's fairly old, and VERY good.  I 
>don't want to spoil the joke by giving away the ending, but trust me, it
>was indeed an excellent line!
>
>-Dres


Hardly anyone I knew got it, either!  I had to explain it to them!
Pity, too, because it just isn't the same to hear it explained as to
actually SEE the movie.


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Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: astrotte@unix.amherst.edu (ADAM SOMERS TROTTER)
Subject: Re: Who was playing air-hockey with Hendrix
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 04:50:44 GMT

I know this topic has almost been run into the ground, but...
I distinctly recall that God told Homer "Don't worry, most religions
fail in the first five years anyway" right before the air hockey scene.
So in trying to determine who the eighteenth-century gentleman is, one
should investigate founders of failed religions.
My first guess was Calvin, but then Calvinism lasted a lot longer than
five years.
..Not my field, but maybe someone has a different suggestion than
Bach or Franklin (the guy looked like *neither* of these, and neither
founded any religion that I know of)

					Adam Trotter
					astrotter@amherst.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: lyford@dagny.webo.dg.com (Lyford Beverage)
Subject: Re: [9F04] Treehouse of Horror III
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 18:05:16 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, Research Triangle Park, NC

In article <1992Nov10.065545.6250@news.unomaha.edu>, torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair) writes:

[Much reposting deleted]
 
|> > >> Mosi Tatupu
|> > A brief career summary provided by (jpl10@duts.ccc.amdahl.com):
|> >     Mosi Tatupu was an all-state fullback in high school and then went on to
|> >     USC and was their premier running back in the late 70's.  Afterwards he
|> >     joined the NFL and was in the league for about 10 years, last playing
|> >     for the N.E Patriots.  He retired a couple of years ago.  Mosi Tatupu,
|> >     he being a native of Samoa, I guess sounds like a tribal phrase if your
|> >     not aware that it's actually someone's name.

Actually, he spent all of his career with the Patriots except for his
last season, finishing up with the LA Rams.

[More Deleted]

|> > Krabappel orders him to find another book to review.  In the school library
|> > Bart fails to be impressed with the latest `Where's Waldo' book 
|> 
|> picture of waldo standing on a blank page
|> 

Waldo was alone on a beach with a palm tree.  (There may have been someone
sitting on the beach with a treasure chest, I'm not sure.  The page was not
empty.)

|>   (``Man, he's
|> > not trying anymore!'').  He looks around further and notices the Occult

[And still more deleted]

|> > Ned:     Well Sui Doloks; you rascal, [chuckle] I thought you were dead.
|> 
|> What is meant by "Sui Doloks"?
|> 

I was pretty sure that what he said (I thought it was Sue) was the name of
the person that the Zombie he was addressing had been.  I think it's a
reasonable assumption in the context.
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From: oppedahl@panix.com (Carl Oppedahl)
Subject: Re: Steamboat Itchy
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 05:24:15 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <1992Nov9.235323.6631@sj.ate.slb.com> poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger) writes:

>Ron Carter (rcarter@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:
>: rhogan@aludra.usc.edu (Ronald Hogan) writes:
>: 
>: >Loved Itchy and Scratchy the movie.  But I would be really surprised if
>: >the Disney people don't say something about Steamboat Itchy, one of the
>: >deadliest parodies of a Disney cartoon ever.  Dead-on imitation of the
>: >first Mickey Mouse, probably close enough to a copyright violation for
>: >a lawsuit.
>: 
>: I would guess that `Steamboat Willy' (the original Disney/M. Mouse
>: cartoon) is so old that it is in public domain; even if not (and I
>: am sure there are people who will tell us all...) it probably lands
>: in the area of satire far enough to get away with...
>: 

>I am not an expert in copyright law, but copyright protects an expression of
>an idea. The copyright is valid for as long as the holder is alive/in business
>plus something like 50 years. I am sure that the copyright on Steamboat Willy
>is still valid, but there are fair-use clauses that allows a little leeway.

Depends when the work was published ... for works before the 1978 revision
of the Copyright Act, the term was 28 years, renewable to 56.  Lots of 
things have moved into the public domain recently because of the 56 years.
I don't know when the 56 years will be up for Casablanca, but you can bet
the owners will promote it vigorously in the months before expiration.


Carl Oppedahl AA2KW  (intellectual property lawyer)
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New York, NY  10112-0228
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From: tina@diamond.UUCP (Tina Cacolice)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: mmmm....Soylent Green...
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:15:55 GMT
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.widener.edu

>
>In article <1dc816INN3rk@cs.widener.edu> tina@rjlg.COM (Tina Cacolice) writes:
>=>>Although no one I watched with got it... so if anyone DIDN'T get it, go rush
>=>>out and see the movie Soylent Green.  It's fairly old, and VERY good.  I 
>=>>don't want to spoil the joke by giving away the ending, but trust me, it
>=>>was indeed an excellent line!
>
>=>Hardly anyone I knew got it, either!  I had to explain it to them!
>=>Pity, too, because it just isn't the same to hear it explained as to
>=>actually SEE the movie.
>
>And if you read the book _Make Room, Make Room!_ (by Harry Harrison)
>that the movie is based on, you'll understand the *true* meaning of
>soylent green (as opposed to brown, red, or blue-green).  The movie is
>quite different from the original book, and the book does have the
>"correct" meaning for soylent green.  Besides, the movie scriptwriters
>should have thought about it for a minute -- shouldn't it have been
>"Soylent Red" or "Soylent Brown" instead?
>


Well, don't keep us all in suspense!  I don't want to have to read the book 
now!  tell us!  tell us!

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Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: djm0238@zeus.tamu.edu (Heath "H-man" Allyn)
Subject: Re: Oprah interview
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 09:04:00 GMT

	When was this on? Was it just a normal Oprah with the simpsons on or 
some special? When might I see it? Tapes anyone???


			H-man
From: tina@diamond.UUCP (Tina Cacolice)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: marge gets a job, or whatever it's called
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:16:28 GMT
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.widener.edu


>
>One wonders what story Kent Brockman was relating which concluded, "... leaving
>the vice-president in charge."  This may have been a reference to one of the
>more humour-oriented reasons for voting against Bush, namely that when (...
>alright, IF...) he was assassinated, Quayle would be president.

Rewind it!  I'm almost CERTAIN I saw the white house on FIRE in the
little picture on the upper right of the screen!

>
>Ms Krabappel: Have you ever read the boy who cried wolf?
>Bart: I'm halfway through it, I swear!

Don't you want to list the mere fact that everybody KNEW Bart was going to
get into REAL trouble and no one would believe him, and then the
actual REAL trouble he got into required him to ACTUALLY cry "Wolf"?!!??!!
As soon as I saw the wolf on Crusty's show, I KNEW what was going
to happen, and couldn't stop laughing until after it did!


>Krusty: Loud?!??!?  That's our secret word for the day!
>and lights start flashing, etc.  I believe that this is a reference to Pee-Wee
>Herman's show, Pee-Wee's playhouse.  In this show, which I was a minor fan of
>(unfortunately cancelled due to the bizarre social pressures of the world in
>which we live), each week at the beginning of the show the secret word would be
>revealed.  Then Pee-Wee would remind everyone in the show and at home that
>whenever you hear this word, all day, you should scream!  It had somewhat of a
>Simpsons-esque subversive flavour, in that I'm sure many kids went around
>screaming and pissing off parents, etc as a result.  Then during the show, a
>few times someone would say the word (often someone not privy to the revelation
>at the beginning of the show), and everyone would scream, and then Pee-Wee
>would grin and confide in the unfortunate victim that this was the secret word
>of the day.  Usually someone would then say it immediately after so that the
>new person could join in the fun too.


Did you see the look on the wolf's face???  PRICELESS!



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From: c8923075@mystra.newcastle.edu.au (Chris Baird)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: AUS 15 NOV 92 episode will be...
Date: 9 Nov 92 12:58:16 GMT
Organization: Club Simpson Intl.  Put your membership form in today!
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.widener.edu


Damn; Ron's beaten me to the draw again this week..

This Sunday's episode*s* for us Aussies are ``Bart the Lover'' and
``Lisa the Greek''.  Neither episodes were butchered on their
premiere, but I wouldn't put it past Network Ten...

For anyone who has yet to realise the answer to the question in the
9f04 capsule (check out the header), a hint: ``I Married Marge''.

-- 
Chris Baird,,  <c8923075@mystra.newcastle.edu.au>