From: bewillia@mothra.syr.EDU (Brad "Boomer" Williams)
Subject: Re: Rumeal to Nets
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 02:09:13 EST

Christopher T Chiu muses on Roy Hinson:

>Please don't compare Hinson to Daugherty.  You're referring to that
>awful, awful deal that the Sixers made--trading away Moses Malone
>and their draft pick Brad Daugherty for Jeff Ruland, Hinson and some
>other journeyman....

	No, you're referring to two very different deals.  Both of them went
down on the same day - June 16, 1986, but were independent.  In the first deal,
The Sixers traded Moses Malone, Terry Catledge, and 1986 and 1988 first round
draft choices to Washington for Jeff Ruland and Cliff Robinson.  In case you're
confused about Robinson as well, this is not the Cliff Robinson currently with
the Blazers, but the Cliff Robinson who disappeared from the league for a few
years, only to reappear with the Lakers last year.
	Anyway, the pick sent to Washington was not the #1 overall pick.  That
pick was sent to Cleveland for Hinson and "other considerations" on the same
day, as I mentioned before.  That pick, of course, became Brad Daugherty, and
the rest has been history.

>it set back Philly for decades, for it left
>them without a center.  Ruland only played a handful of games for 
>the 76ers because of injuries, 

	In my opinion, the Sixers had no reason to deal Moses for Ruland in
the first place, especially along with Terry Catledge, the solid power
forward they were looking for when they acquired Hinson, and two first round
picks.  It was a horrible trade even if Ruland doesn't get hurt.  Just a little
less horrible.
	The deal itself, though, didn't leave them without a center.  The fact
that Ruland's knees weren't up to snuff did.

>and Hinson was a complete disater- unable to play under the pressure of being
>a starter.  He scored around only ten points a game, got four or five 
>rebounds... 

	Actually, he averaged closer to 15 points a game, and around 7
boards in a season and a half with the Sixers.  And don't forget that he
scored 19.2 points a game, and pulled down 7.8 boards the year before with
the Cadavers, as a *starter*, and the number two option on O behind World B.
Free.  He didn't show any signs of not being able to handle the pressure of
being a starter there, and I really don't think that he wilted under the 
pressure in Philly.

>...and never lived up to the expectations that the 76ers had.  

	Agreed, but I think that it's because the Sixers had unrealistic
expectations of him.  At 6'9 and about 220 pounds, Hinson is a little bit
small for a power forward in this league, and that's what the Sixers were
looking for.  He's not a good outside shooter, and not quick enough to be
a small forward, either.  He's the classic 'tweener.
	To quote Cavs GM Wayne Embry on Hinson:

	"In my opinion, Hinson is a 6'9 small forward who is not a good 
outside shooter.  I really don't know if he can play power forward in the
league, considering how it keeps getting bigger and bigger."

	So why did the Sixers make the deal?  They expected a proven
forward who could score and pull down some rebounds.  He could do those 
things, but not to the degree that Philadelphia wanted him to.

>In disgust,
>the Sixers traded him away for Mike Gminski--and Philly won the Atlantic
>Division soon after getting the G-man.  

	Right.  But don't blame Hinson himself for the fact that they didn't
have a center, which is what they desperately needed to win. 

>...basically, don't expect anything great from him, considering his abysmal 
>record to date.

	Abysmal record to date?  Sure, if you take only the past three years.
Before that, though, he was a solid, solid player.  He was good enough for the
Cavs to call him the cornerstone of the franchise before they dealt him.  Yes,
he has been wracked with injuries the past three years, but to call his record
abysmal is a gross misstatement of fact.
	For his career, Hinson has averaged 14.2 points and 6.8 boards a game.
To be sure, those aren't spectacular numbers.  However, they are not 'abysmal'
as you call them.
	I'm not sure he can come back from the injuries and be the player he
was.  If he can, the Hawks got a steal.  If not, they got what they expected.
Either way, they don't lose.

>
>From a curious basketball lover,
>Genghis

From a Roy Hinson supporter all of a sudden.  Don't ask me why.

				- Boomer