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From: Joel.Orleck@p5.f41.n116.z1.fidonet.org (Joel Orleck)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: ACOT
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 14:48:33 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:116/41.5 - Metro-Net, Nashville TN

  BL> ^AEID:C65F 83FE0001
  BL> Hope I'm not intruding, but I am very interested in what you are doing
  BL> with Macintoshes also.  I have come to the conclusion that computers
  BL> are better suited as tools rather than teachers likewise.  If you
  BL> could send some info, my address is:
  
  Hi Brian,

     I haven't forgotten you...just been very busy!  The info is on its way.

  Regards,

  Joel



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From: Joel.Orleck@p5.f41.n116.z1.fidonet.org (Joel Orleck)
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Subject: APPLE SCHOOLS OF TOMORROW
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 19:13:12 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:116/41.5 - Metro-Net, Nashville TN

 
  KS> Is this offer open to anyone?  I will be in a new school with 20 Macs
  KS> that are networked. My address is: Ken Schlender 13828 - 86 st
  KS> Edmonton, Alberta Canada T5E 3C1
  KS> 


  Hi Ken,

    Well, I am about two weeks behind on responding to you...but I have put
some info in the mail to you!

Regards,

Joel Orleck



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From: Sheldon.Billard@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Sheldon Billard)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: COMPUTER COSTS
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 92 21:45:04 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

Thanks for the info.  A little bit of conversion after looking in the 
financial
section of the paper and I'll be all set.
Do you think the prices will go down any after the intro of the '586 in a
supposed few weeks?
sheldon

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From: Jason.Edens@p0.f14.n279.z1.fidonet.org (Jason Edens)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: help !!!
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 92 01:31:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:279/14.0 - Project Enable, Dunbar WV

 -=> Quoting Dana Aberle to All <=-

 DA> Does anybody have the toll free bbs number for Hayes?  I know
 DA> that they have a large listing of bbs around the country.
 DA> I would really appreciate it!  Also, if anyone knows of any
 DA> toll free bbs I would appreciate hearing about it!  I live in
 DA> a very rural area and rake up huge phone bills!

 DA> Thanks alot!
 DA> =>Dana<=
 DA> s


 DA> -!- QM v1.00
 DA>  ! Origin: Bink of an Aye - Portland, OR US - Randy Bush (1:105/42.0)

Here are two of my favorite 1-800 BBS Numbers

T.I.M.E. 1-800-247-3261
OERI ed. 1-800-222-4922

You are welcome to the numbers. You will need to leave messages to get full
access.


... Open mouth, insert foot, echo internationally.



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From: Kevin.Mccluskey@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Kevin Mccluskey)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: FAST PACE
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 18:53:29 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

Thank you for your comments.  I think we almost agree.  What I did not add 
was I can not afford to wait for the SX to run Windows at work.  Not enough 
time.  We are expected to do more with less...the only way to catch up a 
little is to have state of the art equipment.  You can't have new 
positions(additioanl) but you can get $$$ for equipment at times.  I haven't 
loaded Windwos at home but I sure do love Wordperfect for Windows at work.  I 
guess it's a trade off... you think your on the edge with equipment until you 
read the next PC Magazine offering yet another new.......

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From: Joel.Helton@p1.f41.n116.z1.fidonet.org (Joel Helton)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Mac Qwk Mailers
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 09:42:27 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:116/41.1 - Metro-Net, Nashville TN

In a message dated 7/18/92, Grant Kwai wrote to Joel Helton about Mac Qwk Mailers
. . . 
  > He claims Freddie lacks features and is slow due to bad
  > programming structure or otherwise. Anyway, he's programming his up now
  > and says so far, in terms to speed it is way ahead of Freddie. In the
  > mean time, everyone is using Freddie. I'll drop you a line when he
  > finishes it, if you like.      

I would appreciate that.

Joel






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From: Sean.Willmore@p2.f17.n3400.z1.fidonet.org (Sean Willmore)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: HELP !!!
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 92 15:18:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3400/17.2 - MET NET BBS, Helena MT

DA->Does anybody have the toll free bbs number for Hayes?  I know
  ->that they have a large listing of bbs around the country.

1 800 874 2937 is the number.

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From: Byron.Hynes@f30.n3402.z1.fidonet.org (Byron Hynes)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: SYSTEM 7
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 17:25:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3402/30 - The Really Board, Yellowknife NWT

Joshua --

 JK> Yeah, but... if you want to be in control of your computer, you will
 JK> *NOT* buy a Mac.  You can do MUCH more with an IBM/c than you can with a
 JK> Mac.... heck, you can do MUCH more with Windows than you can with even
 JK> System 7...

If you want to be "in control" of your IBM then you don't want Windows. Any GUI removes a layer of access from the user -- thats what it's SUPPOSED to do. The Macs, under system 6 or 7, have always been more seemless. Printers, fonts, SCSI device plug in much more easily.

We bought a $3,000 mac to do certain things, and we bought 286's and 386's to do others. And we only run Windows if we absolutely have to. If I could only have one, I'd buy a high-end mac and emulation software.

  - Byron Hynes
    Yellowknife, NWT, Canada


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From: sackman@sendit.NoDak.edu (Gleason Sackmann)
Subject: Re: COOPERATIVE EDUCATION
Reply-To: sackman@sendit.NoDak.edu (Gleason Sackmann)
Organization: North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:30:11 GMT


In a previous article, David.Wills@f385.n322.z1.fidonet.org (David Wills) says:

>>>the cooperative education phone number for the US bbd.
>>1-800-457-7277
>
> Is this a bbs or does bbd stand for something else?  Is this a closed
>board?

Oops, that should have bbs, and yes, it is an open board.


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From: Justin.Streufert@f455.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Justin Streufert)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: COMPUTERS
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 11:31:54 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:109/455 - Odysseus Board, Silver Spring MD

        I'm looking for a good Notebook/Laptop computer. If you have any advice on what to buy, please tell me. Thank you.

I'm looking for one with:
VGA Monochrome monitor
4mb RAM
80mb Hard Drive
20MHz Clock speed
3 1/2 inch floppy drive
32kb Cache memory
(please write back in ENGLISH... me no habla espanol, etc...)


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From: Grant.Kwai@f729.n713.z3.fidonet.org (Grant Kwai)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Apple Computers
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 92 14:15:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:713/729 - TETIA Service Info , Baulkham Hills NSW

>see if I can get any current information on him and Fruity Dog?  It appears
>from the posts I have seen to work quite well.  I think, but cannot be real
>sure, there is another type of linker program called Tuna Fish which is sold
>and supported by a another gentleman on the echo too.  I check in on that
>also.

 Any information you could get would be much appreciated. What is it
with Apple programs and strange names? Fruity Dog, Tuna Fish, on the
Mac, Freddie, Alice, Macwoof... <Grin>

 I have not heard of Tuna Fish at all. With a bit of luck, I may have
access to internet soon, so hopefully I will be able to hook into the
Apple // echo there.

>Almost true.  I just recently read, on the Apple echo I believe, that Nibble
>is no longer sold on the newsstands but is still sent to subscribers.

 Strange. I person down here was subscribing to them and he received a
notice saying it will no longer available and that the remainder of his
subscription would be transferred over to A2-central. Perhaps they've
changed there policy since then.


Re: Apple // programs

>That sounds interesting, what kind of programs are you talking about?  I do
>a lot of Apple IIGS HyperStudio stack writing and have a collection of stacks.
> If interested I could send you a couple of them for your user group.

 Well, as for programs, there are a few new programs he writes. A lot of
them are patches for certain programs to enhance or expand the
capabilities. There are also a couple of people writing stacks as well.
I'm sure the user group would be very interested in getting a swap
going as new software is always wanted.

 What formats can you handle? I was thinking, since we want to send as
much as possible with as little weight as possible, can you handle Mac
high density disks? As long as we pack each program with say Shrinkit,
we could economise on the number of disks required. (more 'bangs per
buck' compared to a standard Apple // disk). If this is too much
trouble, I'm sure we could use normal Apple // disks.

Cheers,
Grant



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From: Billy.Nulf@p0.f11.n356.z1.fidonet.org (Billy Nulf)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: SYSTEM 7
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 09:16:04 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:356/11.0 - The College, Coos Bay OR

I find your observation about Mac people to show rare insight.  I would say however that much much of the Mac usage is in the printing/publishing business where the high graphic quality gave macs an edge.  With the current technology used in MS-DOS machines the differences in quality are now slight ... but the perception continues ... People in printing still like Macs.  I was talking to the people at Aldos (Pagemaker) the other day and they said that the new IBM platform was just as good as the Mac platfo
rm.
 
Again I appriciate your observation ...
 
Billy



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From: David.Wills@f385.n322.z1.fidonet.org (David Wills)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: SYSTEM 7
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 13:39:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:322/385 - Natick High BBS, Natick MA

>Yeah, but... if you want to be in control of your computer, you will
>*NOT* buy a Mac.  You can do MUCH more with an IBM/c than you can with a
>Mac.... heck, you can do MUCH more with Windows than you can with even
>System 7...

 I thought this was just a System 7/Windows flamer war...  ;)

 Ok, what more can Windows 3.1 do over System 7?

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From: Brian.Lovik@f33.n214.z1.fidonet.org (Brian Lovik)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Word vs Nisus
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 23:58:03 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:214/33 - TCOE BBS, Visalia CA

I prefer Word 5.0 also.  Nisus cant handle varying number of columns nor
does it come with the capability of making tables.  I use both of these
features often.

The Nisus rep told me that their program handles larger documents that
cause Word to crash.  I dont know how big a Word document has to be to
crash.  I am working on a 600+ page single spaced story with my
father-in-law and Word is still functioning.  It has slowed down a bit,
but it still works.  I am always wondering if the next page is going to
be the straw that breaks the camels back.

Thanks for your response.



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From: kmoch@whscdp.whs.edu
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: SYSTEM 7
Date: 25 Jul 92 18:01:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: whscdp.1992Jul25.120142.512
Organization: Washington HS, Milwaukee, WI

>  > It's too slow and most the functions it provides are just not required
>  > other than by power users.
I don't know about this - I just concluded a class involving teachers and even
the beginners found System 7 easy to use and pretty useful in itself!

>...  Additionally, System 7 needs more than an
>  > average CPU to drive at a speed you can live with. 

I'm using System 7 on my Mac Plus with 2.5mb of memory and a hard disk.  I
rather like it.  It is somewhat slower, but I can deal with it - it's not
crawling by any means.  I'm glad I'm using it!  Sure beats Windows 3.1 on
a few of the 386 clones I have worked on.

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From: Joyce.Somerwill@f470.n161.z1.fidonet.org (Joyce Somerwill)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Welcome
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 92 07:42:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:161/470 - IISME-NET, Berkeley CA

Hi Ann--
Just a short message to let you know that this thing really works!
Your're doing an EXCELLENT job at PG&E .
Joyce

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From: John.C..Mickelson@f80.n343.z1.fidonet.org (John C. Mickelson)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: RE: Xapshot?
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 14:41:07 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/80 - Auburn Ed-Net, Auburn WA

Scott,

Thanks for your reply of June 28.  I will look for a Dycam Digital Camera  before
we make a decision to purchase a camera for our school.  I liked the part about
it being user friendly.  Working with a video camera (such as a video cassette
machine) has always been a pain for me...and then one has to edit the results
to make it presentable. The video stills  are much easier to handle and edit,
I think.

Again, thanks for your reply.

John Mickelson
Auburn, Washington


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From: tphilleo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Tom J Philleo)
Subject: Grade book for Mac?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 01:25:59 GMT

   Can anyone recommend a grade management program for the Macintosh that is 
shareware?(inexpensive)



       Tom Philleo
From: Don.Kauffman@p0.f45.n342.z1.fidonet.org (Don Kauffman)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: System 7
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 92 09:28:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:342/45.0 - SPQR, Edmonton Alta

 > HF] The system 7 can run on any Macintosh. I
 > personally run
 > HF] System 7 at home, in France, on a Macintosh
 > Classic, and I
 > HF] am very satisfied.

 > I find that System 7 ISN'T for some people but it is
 > for most.
Have you tried "System Picker".  With this utility from Apple you can have more than one system folder on your hard drive.  Because I have a music program that does not work under Sys 7, but I like to use the features of Sys 7 for most of the things I do with my MAC, I have installed TWO systems on my hard drive.  To use : run SYSTEM PICKER, select the system that is to be active, do a RESTART, and presto - you are running under the corect system for the software that is needed.  I know of some bilingual s
chools which are setting up with SYS.Picker to have an English system folder and a French system.  Works fine.
System Picker is available from Apple dealers. I have also seen it on GENIE, most commercial outfits that have MAC files to download will have it, or your local user group is worth a try.
Just for the record, I don't agree with you that Windows is so bad, Windows 3.1 works quite nicely.  The MAC people have a big head start with their windows, but WIN 3.1 is a vast improvement in the DOS world for ordinary users.  Let's not start a religious war over this issue, there are strengths and weaknesses in all systems.  The system that does what I want it to do, is the best system for me.



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From: Paul.Clothier@f111.n213.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Clothier)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: COMPUTER TRAINING
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 22:49:23 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:213/111 - The Daily Planet, Reno NV

I want to speak to someone in England (London is my old home town) about Computer Training over there and what is taught.  I have a computer training business in Reno Nevada, USA




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From: Edward.Dunagin@f540.n226.z1.fidonet.org (Edward Dunagin)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: MetNet
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 06:29:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/540 - The Tele-Forum Netw, Columbus OH

CL>`                           -----Chad Lowe

CL>--- GEcho/beta
CL> * Origin: The MetNet BBS, Helena, MT.  (406) 444-2068 (1:3400/17)

Hi Chad, I noted the above^^^which let me to a question or two. Several
         months back I logged onto MetNet with the 800 and then, later,
         when I called back, the 800 no longer worked.

         I assume the outofstate 800 got to be too expensive. Was that
         the case and were you getting a lot of calls on MetNet's 800?

         I noticed also, that apparently MetNet was using Trainers to
         send around teaching telecommunications or how to use MetNet.
         Was that the case? If so, is it still working, cost effective
         wise?

Thanks........................Ed

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From: John.C..Mickelson@f80.n343.z1.fidonet.org (John C. Mickelson)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: RE: XAPSHOT
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 17:21:59 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/80 - Auburn Ed-Net, Auburn WA

David,
 
Thanks for your comments about the Daycam, Xapshot, and using a Sony 8mm
camera.  I will do my homework about the Video Spigot.  You are the
second person to mention it as a better alternative to digitizing the
images for the computer.  A couple in my neighborhood run a publishing
company called Scratchgravel.  They do the typesetting on their Macs for
many publishers and universities out of their home.  They suggested Video
Spigot as well.  These people are terrific to have as neighbors (and
there daughter is in my sixth grade class).  A few years ago, I was
having a problem with my Mac Plus display.  It would shrink down to an
inch high picture or go blank.  It I applied pressure to the cabinet with
my hand, all would be well...for a moment.
 
This Scratchgravel man said he had encountered a similar problem when he
had a plus, and proceeded to tear my machine apart on my dining room
table.  An hour later and two soldering jobs later, we had the problem
solved.  A plug assembly going into the side of the powersupply board was
the cause of the intermittent display glitch.  It has bee over two years and
so far the machine has not given up.

Thanks for your advice.

John Mickelson
Auburn, Washington


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From: David.Wills@f385.n322.z1.fidonet.org (David Wills)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Turbo C++
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 92 12:05:04 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:322/385 - Natick High BBS, Natick MA

>I need some help!!!!  I was trying to run Turbo C++ in my Tandy TX 1000 after
>I installel the TC++ and I received this error message that said "cannot
>enable A20".
>Can anybody tell me how to correct this problem?  I will appreciate any help

 The A20 line is used to access Extended memory and HMA.  Put the device
HIMEM in your config.sys file to enable the A20 line.

Note: the line...

        DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS

...or some other memory manager must be _before_...

        DOS=HIGH

 [Also see the README.TXT file if you have DOS5.0 installed]

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From: Grant.Kwai@f729.n713.z3.fidonet.org (Grant Kwai)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Mac Qwk Mailers
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 92 14:48:01 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:713/729 - TETIA Service Info , Baulkham Hills NSW

>Besides Freddie there is MacWoof point software.  I am using it now.  It is
>shareware ($25.00).  It is very easy to use and pretty easy configure (in my
>opinion).  Included are complete docs also.  I have not used Freddie so I
>can't give you an opinion on it.  It may not be the best but I like
>MacWoof and highly recommend it.  The author supports it via a Fidonet
>MacWoof echo.  An evaluation copy can be obtained from the major
>online services and many local BBSs.

 Yes, I believe we can get Macwoof down here as well. I was really after
just QWK offline mail readers like Freddie for the local Mac sysop.
There is a bloke in the user group who is in the process of writing a
QWK mailer. He claims Freddie lacks features and is slow due to bad
programming structure or otherwise. Anyway, he's programming his up now
and says so far, in terms to speed it is way ahead of Freddie. In the
mean time, everyone is using Freddie.
 I'll drop you a line when he finishes it, if you like.

Cheers,
Grant



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From: Byron.Hynes@f30.n3402.z1.fidonet.org (Byron Hynes)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: APPLE SCHOOLS OF TOMORROW
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 17:23:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3402/30 - The Really Board, Yellowknife NWT

Joel --

 >> research. If you'd like to leave me your postal address, I'll be happy
 >> to send you an information packet about our program.

Me too, me too!

  - Byron Hynes
    71 Gold City Court
    Yellowknife, NWT
    Canada X1A 3P6


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From: Jim.Lagerquist@f80.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Lagerquist)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Mac Info
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 07:56:06 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/80 - Auburn Ed-Net, Auburn WA

> I work at a school (grades 5-8) and we have a hundred or so Macintosh
  > computers. However, we do not use the machines to teach. Instead, we
  > teach our students how to use the computer as a tool for writing and
  > research. If you'd like to leave me your postal address, I'll be happy
  > to send you an information packet about our program.
Joel - I would also be interested in this info.  I will be providing tech  support
to a grades 3-6 school this coming school year.  The school currently has 90
+ Macs distributed in classrooms and one lab.  My mailing address is Shadow
Lake Elementary, 22620 Sweeney Rd. S.E., Maple Valley, WA 98038.
Thanks - Jim


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