From: Antonis.Tsolomitis@MATH.TAMU.EDU
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Subject: Ioustiviavos : Mia dior0wsn (fwd)
Date: 13 Oct 92 03:14:06 GMT
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 Mporei va mnv kserw polla gia va ypostnriksw mia apopsn alla
exw va kavw erwtnseis(kamia fora eivai pio snmavtiko va rwtas para
va apavtas).

>    Edw uparxei la0os. O Ioustiviavos avebnke sto 0rovo tou Buzavtiou
> to 526-527 mX, evw to teleutaio keimevo pou exei grafei stnv Aiguptiakn
> 'dnmotikn' xrovologeitai to 450 mX. H xrovikn diafora einai emfavns.
> O Ioustiviavos, oxi movo dev eixe gevvn0ei akoma, alla to pi0avotero
> eivai oti dev eixe gevvn0ei oute o pateras tou !!!!
>   Ta gegovota sta opoia avaferesai einai progevvestera, kai evdexomeva
> aforouv tov 0eodwsio (375 mX), epi epoxns tou opoiou -av dev me apata
> n mvnmn mou- katargn0nkav oi Olumpiakoi agwves, ekleisav oi filosofikes
> sxoles tns A0nvas kai egive n sfagn twv 9000 stov ippodromo tns
> 0essalovikns.
>    Osov afora twra ta Aiguptiaka ieroglufika, upo0etw oti avaferesai
> stn 'dnmotikn' morfn tous. Oi duo progevvesteres eixav ndn ekleipsei.
> Apo tnv Ellnvistikn epoxn kai meta, oi Aiguptioi eixav arxisei va
> xrnsimopoiouv to koptiko alfabnto,to opoio basizetai sto Ellnviko alla
> periexei merika pros0eta grammata. To alfabnto auto xrnsimopoieitai
> akoma apo tnv koptikn ekklnsia tns Aiguptou. To oti to koptiko alfabnto
> 0a epikratouse telika einai bebaio (3erei mnpws kavevas Ellnvas va
> grafei se grammikn B' ;;)


Erwtnsn 1. Ti evvoeis otav grafeis oti to teleutaio keimevo "xrovolognte"
to 450 mX;Eivai gvwsto oti ta keimeva stamatouv va emfavizovtai s'aftn
tn glwssa aftn tnv periodo,n mexri aftn tn xrovologia yparxouv
tetoia keimeva sta xeria mas;Gvwrizoume epi paradigmati oti o Ioustiviavos
dev katestrepse oti keimevo graftnke meta to 450,kai oti dev sfax0nkav
oloi oi daskaloi apo to 450 kai meta;Dwse mas av eivai dyvatov
tn sxetikn bibliografia sou.

Erwtnsn 2.Giati ntav bebain n epikratnsn tou koptikou alfabntou;Dwse mas
 epixnrnmata.Apla kai movo to mege0os tns dyskolias  dev eivai safes av katastei
aftn tnv allagn bebain.Gia paradeigma oi kivezoi dev exou akoma kai
 snmera dytikou typou alfabnto(grafn 0esns).

Erwtnsn 3.Afou o 0eodosios esfakse 9000 av0rwpous(opws grafeis)giati
tov apokaloume akoma mega;

>   O Ioustiviavos dev exei avakurix0ei agios apo tnv ekklnsia. Htav
> pavtws evas apo tous ikavoterous autokratores tou Buzavtiou (isws o
> ikavoteros...). Ektos apo tis stratiwtikes tou epituxies (apokrousn
> twv Perswn, avaktnsn Italias, B.Afrikns kai tmnmatos tns Ispavias)
> afnse kai snmavtiko vomo0etiko ergo.
>    Telos, gia to 0ema tns morfwsns, einai arketo to gegovos oti epi
> epoxns tou toso n Rabevva tns Italias oso kai n Kwvstavtivoupoln
>gemnsav apo mvnmeia. Suvepeia tns epektatikns politikns tou, ntav
> n snmavtikn au3nsn twv esodwv tou kratous, n au3nsn tou emporiou
> ka0ws kai tns asfaleias pou enoiw0av oi polites tou Buzavtiou...
>    Oso gia tov Iouliavo, eivai pragmati mia pare3ngnmevn morfn
> logw twv 0rnskeutikwv tou pepoi0hsewv. Se polla 0umizei to 0eofilo,
> o opoios ekave diwgmous eikovofilwv gia va diw3ei o 0eos tous
> 'apistous Arabes' pou eiseballav sto basileio...


Erwtnsn 4. O Ioustiviavos ntav "ikavoteros" giati kai gia poiov;
Giati gia paradeigma dev 0ewroume ikavotero tov Iouliavo afou
ksavaavoikse tnv akadnmia prospa0nse va ferei osous ka0ngntes mporouse
epavefere tous olympiakous agwves aksies diaxrovikes,kati pou sigoura
dev eivai oi kataktntikoi polemoi,alla akoma kai av dextoume oti ekeivn
tnv epoxn oi polemoi aftoi eixav aksia giati dev eixe isws megalytern aksia
n prospa0eia tou Iouliavou;Mnmpws ntav ikavoteros gia tnv ekklnsia;
Eivai aln0eia n oxi oti o Ioustiviavos ekave sfodrotatous diwgmous kata
twv Ellnvwv epeidn dev tous evdiefere n dev pei0wvtav apo to veo dogma;
Kati pou o megas Basileios 0a 0ewrouse aparadekto mia kai o idios
eixe spoudasei stnv akadnmia tou Platwva.(to ti 0a oewrouse o Megas
Basileios eivai ypo0esn ,dev gvwrizw)

Erwtnsn 5.Giati eivai arketo to gegovos oti afnse mvnmia;
To prongoumevo keimevo egrafe oti ntav amorfwtos.Aln0eia n psemmata;
Twra av 0ewrouv kapoioi oti afto eivai adiaforo afto eivai allo 0ema.
Telika ntav amorfwtos vai n oxi;
>
>   Giwrgos Sabbopoulos
>  A0erapeuta Povtios...
>
Avtwvns Tsolomitis
Tmnma Ma0nmatikwv
The Ohio State University &
Texas A&M University.
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