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From: brkirby@mothra.syr.EDU (Bruce Kirby)
Subject: For Sale: 92 Nissan Sentra E
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 03:27:53 EST

I am looking to sell a 1992 Nissan Sentra E (4dr, 5sp, a/c,
am/fm/cass) with 17000 miles. Excellent shape. 5+yr manufacturer's
warranty. Must Sell.

The car works great, but I am approaching the end of a PhD in Syracuse
and planning to move back to Canada. The Canadian government doesn't
like the automatic seatbelts and won't let me import it. More dumb
government rules.

Send email or call (315) 425-9959.

	Bruce Kirby
brkirby@owl.npac.syr.edu
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From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Best Car ads (was RE: Lexus Commercials)
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:12:15 GMT
Organization: Delco Electronics Corp.

In article <1993Jan27.163753.560@osf.org> kenny@osf.org (Kenneth Crudup) writes:
>Sure. What do you make of those 100 dB "Toyota Sell-A-Thon" commercials
>complete with "Hey East, how many ya sellin' today" bullshit like this is
>a live show?

About as much tasteful as the "I'm buying an Accord" Nissan (?) commercials,
in which various young people were trying to convince other young
people to buy their car; the only argument was "I'm buying an Accord"...

Range Rover seems to have a few good ones, I'm surprised noone has
mentioned them...

Spiros
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From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Sunbird a la 400ci)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: slick 50
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:23:10 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article <C1F2JG.A9B@trc.amoco.com> zrol01@trc.amoco.com (Richard O. Lindsay) writes:

>You don't need Slick-50 or STP or any of the additives.  If they were
>needed the oil companies would have incorporated them long ago.

>Mr. Wade's comments are correct.  Just change your oil and filter
>every 3000 miles and cool your jets.  I've heard others that
>suggest using a synthetic oil such as Mobil 1 changed every 10,000
>miles BUT change the filter every 3000 miles.  The filter change is 
>an overlooked but VERY important step.  It is a very inexpensive
>replacement step to throw away all of the abraided metal and junk
>that get traped.  Oil stays cleaner, filter throughput is higher,
>engine lasts longer...

Hmm.  I use a 'viscosity improver' on my chevy small block.  It's probably 
in need of a ring job, but my compression *has* improved with consistant use 
of the additive.  Maybe I could just go to higher weight oil, but somehow I 
think what I'm doing is the best move.

BTW, does anyone know what a good "normal" oil pressure range should be?

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From: andrew@frip.WV.TEK.COM (Andrew Klossner)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: best car ads
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:58:33 GMT
Reply-To: andrew@frip.wv.tek.com
Organization: Tektronix Color Printers, Wilsonville, Oregon

My favorite: the National Lampoon ad for Volkswagen, showing a Beetle
floating in the sea.  "If Ted Kennedy had been driving a Beetle at
Chappaquidick, he would be president today."

  -=- Andrew Klossner  (andrew@frip.wv.tek.com)
                       (uunet!tektronix!frip.WV.TEK!andrew)
From: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: SHO Problems
Date: 28 Jan 93 19:18:23 GMT
Reply-To: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.  Engineering

In article <93Jan27.151507.37542@acs.ucalgary.ca>, parr@acs.ucalgary.ca 
(Charles Parr) writes:
> I think you'd be justified in expecting them to replace it
> without charge to you...Six failures, to me, indicates the
> machinery must be fundamentally fucked up, and that strikes
> me as Ford's problem (not really the *dealers* problem, the
> *manufacturers* problem.)


I took their bait and the A/C is still working now, a full 1.5 weeks 
after the fact!  A new record for Ford Reliability!!!!!!!!

If this keeps up, my Ford will equal the reliability of a Ferrari
within a couple of months, although I suppose it would have to go
trouble free for a quarter before it equals the reliability of old
Fiats... :-)

No denegration of Ferraris or Fiats intended... :-)


Tom Pickett 
tpickett@auspex.com or 74616.2237@compuserve.com
SHO  GOZE
From: aland@informix.com (Colonel Panic)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Honda expectation management
Date: 26 Jan 93 05:50:12 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Helen Keller Bondurant's Performance Driving School for the Blind

In article <ELI.93Jan21085011@glare.cisco.com> eli@cisco.com (Steve Elias) writes:
>good luck with it!  
>do you pay sick amounts for insurance for the Probe GT?  

Not at all.  Adding the Probe GT (fully loaded) costs me an additional $85
per 6 months.  (The MX-6 LS would have cost and additional $175 per year.)
(The Saturn SC, in contrast, would have cost an extra $46 per year!)

>   None of the 7 Hondas bought new in my family in the last 11 years qualifies.
>   Three ate one or both front rotors, for example.
>
>hmm.  that sounds suspiciously like normal wear and tear,
>for someone who uses the brakes a lot (city driving?).

"Normal wear and tear" to eat rotors within 30K?  Are you NUTS?!  Man, them
Honda dealers really have you under their spell.  I've got 115K on my Toyota
Celica GT-S with 4-wheel disks, all *original* rotors.  Maybe, if you
drive bumper-to-bumper traffic on a steep hill every day, 30K would be
"normal wear and tear", but we're talking level ground and mostly freeway
driving.  One of my AMC's ate one rotor at 70K, but that was caused by a frozen
caliper -- otherwise, I've never had to replace a rotor on any of our cars
(except the Hondas) before 80K or so.

>i bet the dealer gave you grief on that one if you tried
>to get it fixed under warranty though.  or was it that they kept
>getting warped.  improperly torqued?  whatever, point taken anyway.

Nope -- that's the first thing I suspected on the first occurrence.  All
wheels kept properly torqued from then on.

>   >i bought 2 new GM products, each had thousands
>
>   What year(s)?  What models?
>
>85 Z28, 89 Z28.  the 85 was more reliable, actually.
>(it was carbed.)  the 3rd gen f-body cars had the worst
>reliability in all of GM, so i realize i was at the bottom
>of GM's barrel with respect to reliability.  that's why it
>...
>actually it does make a trend.  a trend of 2.

Your specific cases are hardly reflective of the complete GM product line,
or American cars in general.  (I always thought the Camaros and Trans Ams
were comparative lemons, anyway.)

>   If your sole interest is anecdotal flamage, take this to email.
>
>no, no.
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From: groves@noao.edu (Lee Groves)
Subject: Re: best car ads
Originator: groves@yam.tuc.noao.edu
Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson, AZ, USA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:06:25 GMT

> Ob best ads:  
> 
> VW's ads a few years back showing Jetta's and Golf's speeding and
> stopping within inches of lab-coat clad "technicians" lined up
> on a test track.

This was done first for the Audi 5000 in the late '70s.  The
dialog was something like, "Our engineers are so confident in
our new car that they not only stand behind them, they'll stand
in front of them..."  --rather humorous when one thinks about
the sudden acceleration farce.  Actually, i am shocked that no one dug
up that old ad and sold it to the media.

Another favorite of mine (and another Audi ad) was one in which a
BMW and a Mercedes were parked beside each other, facing the camera,
with a gap between them big enough for another car.  In the background,
a third car is rushing towards the camera (aimed between the to cars in
the foregraound).  The first instinct is to think,  Ok, so they're
going to pull the Audi up between the BMW and Merc. and make their
remark about them all being in the same league.  --but just before the
Audi gets to the empty space, it spins 360 deg, comming back
into perfect alignment with the empty space, and *then* pulls into
it without really slowing down.  I'd love to know how many times
they had to practice that one with boxes painted on the road first...
From: ilh@lcs.mit.edu (Lee Hetherington)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: best car ads
Date: 27 Jan 93 12:39:04
Organization: MIT/LCS Spoken Language Systems
	<1993Jan26.202333.2895@osf.org>
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In-reply-to: kenny@osf.org's message of 26 Jan 93 20:23:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.202333.2895@osf.org>
kenny@osf.org (Kenneth Crudup) writes:
   One of the most interesting ads I've seen was the Volvo commercial
   for what I guess was the (just introduced?) 7X0-series, where they
   drive a Volvo off the end of a raised road, and it lands on it's
   nose, turning it into an accordion (but only for about a foot),
   slides about 10 feet, and comes to rest on it's (intact!) wheels.
   It looks like you could have re-started it and driven away.

Or how about that Volvo ad after that where they drove a monster truck
over one with no apparent damage.  Too bad that they were later sued
(and lost) for having beefed up the interior with wood beams and
braces before the stunt.  I'll never trust another Volvo add again.
--

                                Lee Hetherington
                                ilh@lcs.mit.edu
From: cshafai@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca (Cyrus Shafai)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: 1993 Camaro
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:57:22 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada

rremaley@bcm.tmc.edu writes:

>Does anyone have any info such as pricing on these jewels?

I think the full blown Camaro Z28 is about $17500 US.  
This is increadibly cheap for a 280 HP car, 6 speed standard, dual airbags,
ABS, and polymer body.


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From: rjwade@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J. Wade)
Subject: Re: Speeding ticket in OKlahoma --- what's SP8?
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:05:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.191153.6674@borland.com> dave@borland.com (Dave) writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.174211.14992@microware.com> troyf@microware.com (Troy Frericks) writes:
>>There are two schools of thought when it comes to fighting speeding tickets:
>>1) pay it, it's not worth the time to fight.  Consider it random road-use-tax.
>
>	It isn't the price of the ticket this gets me going. I consider
>	the whole idea of speeding tickets as revenue enhancement at the
>	cost of the average joe citizen. The things that really kills me
>	is that the price of the ticket is usually the least of my worries.
>	I worry about how many YEARS I will pay HUNDREDS of dollars to the
>	insurance company all because some town/state needed some money so
>	they sent the tax troopers, exceuse me .. police, out to raise some
>	money.
>
so carry a box of creme/jelly-filleds with you at all times!!
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From: pacyga@rtsg.mot.com (Jim Pacyga)
Subject: Re: Where is the new Toyota Supra?
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:15:09 GMT

In article <wood.727972718@siemens.com> wood@siemens.com (Jim Wood) writes:
>The subject heading asks it all.  I have been looking for this
>car to debut for quite some time, expecting it in January of
>this year.  Where is it?
>
>

The new Supra debuts at the Chicago Auto Show in early February.
As usual the show is held at McCormick Place and tickets are $5.00
per person.

Enjoy...
From: eliot@engr.washington.edu (eliot)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: goodyear eagle ga's vs gt+4 revisited
Date: 25 Jan 1993 06:36:30 GMT
Organization: skulls 'r us
Distribution: na
Reply-To: eliot@engr.washington.edu (eliot)
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would those of you who have goodyear eagle ga's care to comment on its
wet performance?  also, are they M+S rated? 

a more general question: does M+S mean the same thing as "all-season"
or is one the subset of the other?

tire rack has a really wierd ad out for the eagle ga.  there are two
prices for 215/60VR15's.. $93 and $122 (or something like that).
i called them up and asked them and i basically got incoherent BS
about one being different from the other...  anyone know the
true story?  i am considering buying this tire quite soon.

thanks

eliot
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From: R2MSM@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU
Subject: relay problem???
Organization: The University of Akron
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:40:05 GMT

Hi Folks,
 
Any experts who could help me on this?......
 
I had been out of town for a month and I disconnected the cable
from my battery when I left. I reconnected it back y'day. Everything
seemed to be allright for a few hours and then the problem started.
At idle speeds and only when I am not using any lights,indicators,
brakes or heat, there is a clicking noise and panel lights (fasten
seat belt light, oil light etc.) keeps going on and off. Happens only
below 1000rpm and when no battery power is being used as mentioned before.
 
Could it be a relay problem? If so how much wud it cost me? Does it have
anything to do with the reconnection of the battery?
 
Thanks in advance.....
 
Madhav (r2msm@vm1.cc.uakron.edu)
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Subject: Advice wanted on minivans
From: C741SCB <C741SCB@SEMOVM.SEMO.EDU>
Date: 21 JAN 93 09:03:10 CST
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
NNTP-Posting-Host: semovm.semo.edu

I'm thinking of buying a new minivan.  A local dealer offers a
Plymouth Voyager for about 14,000; I'd be interested in information
about this and other minivan makes.  Didn't Voyager have some
problems a few years back?  Have they been fixed?

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From: lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Before Buying Japanese.
Date: 22 Jan 93 03:21:48 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Distribution: na
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation

In article <1993Jan21.182820.796@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jnielsen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John F Nielsen) writes:
>Checking the 1993 Buying Guide I find . . .
>
>The Mazda MX-6 and Ford Probe were essentially idenitcal except for
>the 91 model. 
>
    Read it a bit more carefully.  The Mazda and Probe have pretty
    different suspension tunings.  The Mazda actually handles just
    as well as the Probe in normal commuter style driving, but it's
    suspension is definitely much softer.  

    The Probe is calibrated more for very hard driving on very
    SMOOTH roads...a bit like the traditional US pony car.
From: goble@hardy.u.washington.edu (Brian Goble)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Looking for info on 83-87 Chevy S10 Mini-Blazers
Date: 28 Jan 1993 18:51:33 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu

My girlfriend is in the market for an 83-87 Chevy S10 Mini-Blazer and I'm
seeking any information about them...especially what to look for when
looking at one.

Her requirements are that it's got 4wd and the V6 (2.8L or 4.3L).  She'd
prefer an automatic but would take a 5sp.

She's looking to spend about $5,500 max.  In the Seattle area, that seems
to be 84s and 85s mostly.

Please email or post anything that you think would be of help...thanx!

-Brian
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From: nau@ssesco.com (William Nau)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Worst Car Award
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:07:11 GMT
Organization: SSESCO

bsmg9810@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Bhaskar S.Manda) writes:

> Before we go overboard on this, recall that even the Eagle Premier
> has a drag coefficient that bests that of the Ford Taurus. 
> Speaking subjectively, I think the Taurus ranks right up there with the
> Caprices and Roadmasters, surpassed only by the Sable in ughness. Atleast
> the Caprice looks impressive or at least deterring as a cop car.
> The profile of the Taurus, especially the lines of the rear doors, is the
> mark of a design team in an unholy hurry.
> Well anyway, the first thing I said here is not subjective.

I suppose it's unwise of me to respond to this unless I'm looking
for a debate, but I've never claimed to be wise.

Never did I say that the Taurus is a good looking car.  Never did I say
that the Taurus is the current leader in areodynamics.  What I did
mean to say was that it started a trend.  When the vehicle first came
out, it caused a lot of followers.  Many areodynamic designs today
have been influenced by the early Taurus.

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From: rjwade@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J. Wade)
Subject: Re: best car ads
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:40:44 GMT

In article <ILH.93Jan27123904@chicago.lcs.mit.edu> ilh@lcs.mit.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.202333.2895@osf.org>
>kenny@osf.org (Kenneth Crudup) writes:
>   One of the most interesting ads I've seen was the Volvo commercial
>   for what I guess was the (just introduced?) 7X0-series, where they
>   drive a Volvo off the end of a raised road, and it lands on it's
>   nose, turning it into an accordion (but only for about a foot),
>   slides about 10 feet, and comes to rest on it's (intact!) wheels.
>   It looks like you could have re-started it and driven away.
>
>Or how about that Volvo ad after that where they drove a monster truck
>over one with no apparent damage.  Too bad that they were later sued
>(and lost) for having beefed up the interior with wood beams and
>braces before the stunt.  I'll never trust another Volvo add again.
>--

not wood...but a complete metal roll cage inside...
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From: porta@wam.umd.edu (David Palmer)
Subject: 323, interior room
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 23:08:30 GMT

 I own a 1990 Mazda 323.  I find the room inside quite adequate
 For a small car the seats and seating room are quite big for a small 
car; more comfortable in fact than many larger cars that I have seen.
Not all small cars have inadaquate seating.
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From: zrol01@trc.amoco.com (Richard O. Lindsay)
Subject: Re: slick 50
Reply-To: zrol01@trc.amoco.com
Organization: Amoco Production Company, Tulsa Research
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:47:39 GMT

You don't need Slick-50 or STP or any of the additives.  If they were
needed the oil companies would have incorporated them long ago.

Mr. Wade's comments are correct.  Just change your oil and filter
every 3000 miles and cool your jets.  I've heard others that
suggest using a synthetic oil such as Mobil 1 changed every 10,000
miles BUT change the filter every 3000 miles.  The filter change is 
an overlooked but VERY important step.  It is a very inexpensive
replacement step to throw away all of the abraided metal and junk
that get traped.  Oil stays cleaner, filter throughput is higher,
engine lasts longer...

Rick

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From: ssr@cypress.com (Bapcha/FPGA)
Subject: Re: Lotus Elan in 'Basic Instinct'
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 00:51:07 GMT

In article <1jjl26INN5jh@phantom.gatech.edu> grahamt@phantom.gatech.edu (Graham E. Thomas) writes:
>grego@bit.UUCP (Greg Sanguinetti) writes:
>
>>Not to mention the old James Bond movie (thunderball?) that featured
>>the amphibious Esprit. I think it was even sumbersible!
>
>The amphibious Esprit appeared in two Roger Moore Bond films of the late
>70s I think. I don't remember the titles. The Lotus was blown
>up in the first 10 minutes of the second one. Another Moore film has him
>driving a red Lotus at a ski resort. Does anyone know these titles?
>

The one at the ski resort was also white - the movie was FOR YOUR EYES ONLY.
This was the one that was blown up.

Thunderball had the amphibious esprit in it... it was a car/sub/hovercraft in one...
cool eh ?

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From: SCHEER@BEATE.RZ.FH-ULM.DE ((T. M.))
Subject: HONDA '92 and other stuff
Organization: Germany sucks
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 12:02:47 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.22

HEY Whats up ?? ...

Sorry but I'm kinda new in this group and I've got some
questions...
Because I'm livin in f****ng Germany I can't get a third
breaklight for my new '92 CIVIC Hatchback. Does anyone know how
much it would be if I would order it in CND or US ??

I would also like to know if any '92 CIVIC owner has got
problems with noise inside the car (especially when it's
really cold outside)  ...

and I just wanted to say that the VW GOLF SUCKS !!
because over here in Germany every third car is a GOLF
or do you think it is cool if everybody drives the same car ...
Japanese cars have got much more Style etc..
But in my opinion the American ones are #1 
(what the hell would I give if I could drive a 5.0 over here)

any opinions would be nice ...    (e-mail)


JaCaRu
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