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From: Allen Renear
Subject: Re: Wanted: SGML->WAIS tools, introduction to SGML
Organization: Brown University  CIS
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 01:13:40 GMT

Your best bet is *The SGML Handbook* by Charles Goldfarb, Oxford University
Press. It has some introductory and tutorial sections as well as the entire
standard. (There are about half a dozen other introductions to SGML; you can
find them by searching some of the larger library catalogues on the net --
Harvard, Berkeley, Michigan, etc.)

But I must say that I find appalling the prospect of converting an SGML text
into something less useful and accurate simply in order to accomodate an ascii
display. Particularly when the viewer that comes with the Chadwyck-Healy
version is something as stunningly correct and forward-looking as EBT's
Dynatext.  Ouch. The Patrologia Latina in Dynatext is a gorgeous example of the
future. I'd like to see our general client-server tools moving in this
direction rather than encouraging the disassembly, the *gutting* of
high-function structured textbases. And isn't the price of that disk something
on the order of $30,000? You're paying for those SGML tags -- in fact, strip
them out and you won't even have the Patrologia Latina anymore, but just a
low-function, informationally impoverished, ambiguous alphabetic transcript
*of* the Patrologia Latina. 

Well, I guess my stripes are showing. 

In article <By0xu1.5Gt@rice.edu> riddle@is.rice.edu (Prentiss Riddle) writes:
>I am looking for pointers to both software and introductory references
>to help with what I hope will be a simple task:
>
>I've recently learned that our library is considering the acquisition
>of a large collection of literary and historical texts encoded using
>SGML.  I'll be hoping to cobble together an SGML->something filter,
>where "something" is a format suitable for indexing and serving out the
>data via WAIS.  I don't need a general solution, just something that
>will work for the particular collection of texts in question (the
>"Patrologia Latina" published by Chadwick-Healey.)
>
>I, like others, have noticed that it's hard to find a low-level entry
>into SGML lore.  (Hint, hint -- a FAQ file would be very useful.)  Short
>of ordering the standards from ISO, is there a good place for me to
>find an overview of what SGML is all about?  And can someone recommend
>the SGML software I should be looking at (public-domain preferred but
>commercial also considered) for a task like the one I describe above?
>
>Please reply by mail and I'll summarize if there is interest.  Thanks.
>
>-- Prentiss Riddle ("aprendiz de todo, maestro de nada") riddle@rice.edu
>-- Unix Systems Programmer, Office of Networking and Computing Systems
>-- Rice University, POB 1892, Houston, TX 77251 / Mudd 208 / 713-285-5327
>-- Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of my employer.
>


Xref: sparky comp.infosystems.wais:647 comp.sys.sgi:16580
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais,comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Trying to build wais-8-b5 under IRIX 4.05
From: russell@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Russell Fulton)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 07:03:20 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.

mark@alsvid.une.edu.au (Mark Garrett Internet: mark@arvak.une.edu.au Phone: +61 66 20 3859) writes:


>From article <1992Nov10.224905.27758@news.yale.edu>, by dcs@neutron.chem.yale.edu (Dave Schweisguth):
>> Can anyone enlighten me?
>> 
>>         cc -O -cckr -DSYSV -DUSG -DSECURE_SERVER -DRELEVANCE_FEEDBACK -c irfiles.c
>> ccom: Error: irfiles.c, line 924: syntax error
>>         if(0 !=  {link((temp_filename),( filename)); unlink((temp_filename)); })

>If you look at the source code you will find that this line actually says
>if(0 != rename(temp_filename, filename))  
>	Although I find this a little backward, your problem it seems
>is that your rename is being expanded as a macro. You must have a peculiar 
>compiler..?  Check your man pages on rename, see if you really have a libc
>entry for rename. This macro expansion for rename is wrong according to
>my BSD man pages rename returns an error code 0 for success and -1 on failure.
>	If the above failed the first link the unlink would remove the file,
>very bad I would think .... I'd be glad you compiler didn't like it.

The problem is that that define for rename is included by the -DSYSV
swtich and the code is definitely broken.  Just remove -DSYSV and
everything works as expected.

Cheers, Russell.
-- 
Russell Fulton, Computer Center, University of Auckland, New Zealand.
<rj_fulton@aukuni.ac.nz>
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: mcneill@ee.umanitoba.ca (Dean K. McNeill)
Subject: Connect to socket did not work.
Organization: Elect & Comp Engineering, U of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba,Canada
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:50:57 GMT

I installed the wais clients on my system several months back, without incident,
and have used it several times since then.

Recently I have had a great deal of problems connecting to wais servers from
my site. Frequently, while attempt to query a server I get the message back:

Connect to socket did not work (1): Socket is already connected.
Connect to socket did not work (2): Socket is already connected.

This seems to me to mean that the server only allows a certain number (1?) of
connections and is refusing mine. If this is true, the above message to stderr
and the xwais message

Error connecting to <service>.src

is not very clear.

I would assume that the socket messages are coming from the system, and 
therefore can be expected to be less than clear on the cause of the problem.
However, the user interface should elaborate a little more on the nature of 
the communications failure.

Does this make sense, or am I completely off the mark?

BTW, I am currently running xwais from the wais-8-b5 distribution on a Sun 
SPARCstation 2, running SunOS 4.1.2, if that makes any difference to anyone.

-- 
||  Dean K. McNeill                              mcneill@ee.umanitoba.ca  ||
||  VLSI Research Laboratory                                              ||
||  Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering                     ||
||  University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, CANADA,  R3T 2N2          ||
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: suresh@nls2.nlm.nih.gov (Suresh Srinivasan)
Subject: Problem with WAIS indexing (medline format)
Summary: headline table corrupt
Keywords: wais, waisindex, medline
Organization: Management Systems Designers Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 21:52:22 GMT


I'm waisindexing a fairly large file (~5MB) in pseudo
medline format in wais-8-b5.  I'm accumulating the
TI and MH fields into the header (I need them to be
weighted higher). This can cause the header to get fairly
large - over the MAX_LINE_LENGTH(=1000) limit.  So I
accumulate the header in another, larger (8192 byte)
array and strncpy 999 characters to 'header'.

The error I get is "headline table is corrupt" followed
by what looks like an offset.  Here's the log:

---------------------------------
20051: 0: Nov 17 15:46:40 1992: 6: Starting to build database test
20051: 1: Nov 17 15:46:41 1992: 6: Indexing file: test
20051: 2: Nov 17 15:47:10 1992: 6: Flushing 44246 different words, 300000 total words to disk...
20051: 3: Nov 17 15:47:25 1992: 6: Done flushing
20051: 4: Nov 17 15:47:54 1992: 6: Flushing 45697 different words, 300000 total words to disk...
20051: 5: Nov 17 15:48:08 1992: 6: Done flushing
20051: 6: Nov 17 15:48:35 1992: 6: Flushing 42513 different words, 280100 total words to disk...
20051: 7: Nov 17 15:48:48 1992: 6: Done flushing
20051: 8: Nov 17 15:48:48 1992: 6: Merging 3 files
20051: 9: Nov 17 15:48:48 1992: 6: Merging version 0 and 1
20051: 10: Nov 17 15:49:06 1992: 6: Merging version 0 and 2
20051: 11: Nov 17 15:49:29 1992: 6: Merging version 0 into master version and generating dictionary.
20051: 12: Nov 17 15:50:00 1992: 100: Total word count for dictionary is: 880100
20051: 13: Nov 17 15:50:00 1992: 6: Done merging.
20051: 14: Nov 17 15:50:01 1992: -1: headline table is corrupt at 16 in db test
20051: 15: Nov 17 15:50:01 1992: -1: headline table is corrupt at 461 in db test
20051: 16: Nov 17 15:50:01 1992: -1: headline table is corrupt at 954 in db test
and on and on.....


Has anyone experienced this before?  Can you help?
By the way, indexing the same data works when my header
is small, e.g., just the first TI line for example.

Thanks in advance.

--Suresh
-- 
Suresh Srinivasan, suresh@nlm.nih.gov

National Library of Medicine
c/o Management Systems Designers, Inc.
From: brunk@cit.med.upenn.edu (Douglas Brunk)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: WAIS 8b5 and PICT files
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:03:24 GMT
Followup-To: comp.infosystems.wais
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I have installed WAIS 8 b5  and the modified version from Univ. of Indiana
on my A/UX machine and am accessing the files using WAISStation 6.3 for the
Mac.  Both waisservers are working fine with WAISStation for searching text
data but I am having problems with downloading PICT files.

I have ftp'ed two pict files to my server using the MacBinary II format and
them indexed those using the -t pict option with waisindex.  Whenever I try
to retrieve the file using WAISStation I get the following error:

WARNING - read error, the server may be incompatible

What is going on here?  Is the server really incompatible?  Any ideas would
be appreciated.
From: brownd@merrimack.edu
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: wais question
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:39:29 GMT
Organization: Merrimack College, No. Andover, MA, USA

Greetings,
  Does anyone know of a vms client that would work with our school's
TCP/IP UCX implementation?

Doug 
brownd@merrimack.edu
From: 00twgivens@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems
Subject: LOOKIN' FOR A JOB??
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:46:47 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

Where to work with an MIS degree???

        I'm a senior at Ball State University majoring in MIS/CS.

	I was searching for different avenues of job listings for MIS/IS
majors and I came across a CPC Annual printed this year ('92).  There was
a listing of over 80 companies to contact for job placement in their MIS/IS
department.  The downside of this is that the mag. costs $17.95!! But if you
have a Career Services Department at your disposal, you might be able to get
one free, like I did. 

	Just trying to help, because finding a job is a bitch...

	If you know of any other listings, please respond.  The more prospects,
the better.

			GOOD LUCK!!
From: richard@balder.scs.uiuc.edu (Richard A. Goldstein)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems
Subject: Sharing room at HICSS-26
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:19:07 GMT
Organization: School of Chemical Sciences Univ. of Illinois, Urbana IL

Is anyone interested in sharing a room at the Hawaii International
Conference on System Sciences in January?  (Singles and Doubles both
$125/night.) I am a non-smoking male Post-doc in computational biophysics.

                                                  Richard Goldstein
                                                  richard@frej.scs.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs,alt.bbs.ads,alt.bbs.allsysop,alt.bbs.internet,alt.bbs.unixbbs,alt.bbs.waffle,alt.bbs.unixbbs.uniboard
From: buick@belay (Patrick D. Buick)
Subject: Need Multiline Multichat BBS
Followup-To: alt.bbs
Summary: Have ORG that wants worldwide BBS for Info Exchange
Keywords: multiline, rotary dial, multiway talk
Organization: Belay Enterprises Inc. Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 20:11:10 GMT

I have an inquiry from a friend of mine regarding the above.  He has
been approached by an organization which wishes to create their own
BBS whereby people can log on from all over the world and work with
uploading/downloading files as well as multiway talk sessions.

The preferred operating system would be UNIX.  The system is intended
to be hooked up to a rotary line system so that the people only get a
busy signal when there are no lines left to access.

This system must be relatively easy to use and administer.  There may
be more systems brought online in the future, and they also wish to be
able to connect these systems in a manner such that they can all communicate.
(hmmm I need to clarify if that is in "real time" as well)

The hardware underlying the system is not already set, although the
preference is a PC-Compatible type system.

There is some urgency on this matter, since the initial meeting occurs
Tuesday.. (Don't complain to me.. I'm just posting this <grin>)
Thank you in advance for any information you can send to me.
Patrick
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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: KRC@ECLX.PSU.EDU (Keith R. Connors)
Subject: Re: USA Today Online.
Organization: Penn State Engineering Computer Lab
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 07:09:08 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <1992Nov18.163739.26681@netcom.com> ssturgis@netcom.com writes:

> In article <656.493.uupcb@grapevine.lrk.ar.us> jim.wenzel@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (Jim Wenzel)  writes:
> >
> >  well. It was  written for USA Today. I don't  have his BBS number here
> >  but, the program is available on our BBS as well. As for cost you need
> >  to contact  BoardWatch. They sell the  service. Hopefully someone will
> >  post the number.
> >
> 
> You can reach Boardwatch here on the net: jack.rickard@boardwatch.com
> 
> scott
> 

Thanks for the information I have set him E-Mail and I am waiting for a reply.

Keith
Xref: sparky comp.bbs.misc:1273 alt.bbs:7020
From: greg%tcscs@idss.nwa.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs
Subject: Re: USA Today Online.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 19:05:27 CST
Reply-To: srcsip!tcscs!greg
Organization: TCS Consulting Services

KRC@ECLX.PSU.EDU (Keith R. Connors) writes:

> I seem to remember awhile back that there was a door for bbs use that would
> allow you to receive USA Today for online reading.  Could someone give me
> more information on the program and what it costs to receive the service
> for BBS use, thanks in advance!
> 
I'd like to know this as well....



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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs.allsysops
From: jastriet@nyx.cs.du.edu (Julie Strietelmeier)
Subject: Twincom 14.4 modem
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 20:27:04 GMT


I would like to hear from other Sysops out there that have the Twincom
14.4k fax/data external modem. I am running Genesis Deluxe 5.0 BBS
software and find that when I use EMM386.sys under MSDOS 5.0, that my
modem will timeout before connecting when a user calls my BBS. I've tried
using Windows 3.1 EMM386 and Desqview's QEMM programs, but they all give
me the same result. My BBS software is not getting the correct result code.
 
Any one that may also have this modem, I would really appreciate the Init
string that you use and if you use EMM386.SYS.

Julie Strietelmeier --- Sysop of CrossRoads BBS (812)342-7107
julie@cel.cummins.com

Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs
From: jules@kentek.com (Jules Dubois)
Subject: Re: Request for Door programs
Date: 18 Nov 92 10:34:51
Organization: spotty

In article <1992Nov17.105046@shovel.Prime.COM> tim@shovel.Prime.COM
(Tim Cantin) writes:

   Can anyone point me towards an anonymous ftp site where I can find some
   bbs door programs? Anything is fine (games or not) as long as it works with
   MAXIMUS-CBCS v2.00 (MS-DOS based).

zeus.ieee.org has BBS doors.
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: s4uhkm@fnma.COM (Howie Michalski)
Subject: PCBoard, A Defender :)
Reply-To: s4uhkm@fnma.COM
Organization: Fannie Mae
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:14:38 GMT

Just a note:

Out of the TOP-10 BBS systems listed in this year's Boardwatch Magazine
Top 100 BBS contest 3 of them were PCBoard systems.  That is the highest
percentage of any software used by TOP-10 systems.

Of the TOP-100, PCBoard was the 2nd most used software, following
TBBS.  

I am a firm believer that a sysop should choose the BBS package that
best suits his/her needs.  Sometimes that is PCB, sometimes it is not.
One reason the PCB is so widely used is that it offers the functionality
to do just about anything the average sysop would need to do.

As with all products that target a wide user-base, PCB gets a bad rap
just because it is used so much (like MSWindows, for example - I cant
even count the number of anti-windows posts I've read).  

Anyway, I am a PCB sysop - not because I think its the BEST pacakge
in the universe, but because it meets my needs.  I suggest if PCB systems
bother you so much, don't call them.  But, please don't roll us PCB sysops
into a single group of hitler-esque systyem operators.  Some of us do run
pretty good systems.  Despite the fact we chose PCB :)

Cheers,
Howie


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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: POWERBOARD BBS PACKAGE
Organization: The Gator Conferencing System 219-289-3745 
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 10:37:57 GMT

asspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan) writes:

>Note very carefully the originating site.  Yes, boys and girls, Scott
>posted this from a PCBored BBS.  The average person who calls a
>PCBored BBS doesn't believe that any computer system exists other than 
>the IBM PC and compatibles.

>Once again, note that this originated from a PCBored BBS.  This

Let's just put all the PCB systems in the world in a bucket and
ship them to the moon :)


-- 
Larry Snyder                                    internet: larry@gator.rn.com
keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry
From: paul@hsh.com
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: Where to post BBS ads?
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:10:56 GMT
Organization: HSH Associates

In article <e9q6TB1w165w@bluemoon.use.com>, zaphod@bluemoon.use.com (Peter Bierman) writes:
> What newsgroup should BBS ads be posted in? (If any.)
> 
> 
> --
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>     F R E E  D O W N L O A D S      |    people are scum." --Calvin
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Right up the ladder, in ALT.BBS.ADS -- go fer it.

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 Internet: paul@hsh.com     Compuserve: 70410,3507    AOL: HSH Assoc
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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: PCBoard, A Defender :)  
From: Jonathan_Mosen@kcbbs.gen.nz (Jonathan Mosen)
Date: 24 Nov 92 18:07:19 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

s4uhkm@fnma.COM (Howie Michalski) writes:   
>As with all products that target a wide user-base, PCB gets a bad rap  
>just because it is used so much (  
  
I am fortunate in that I don't have this problem.  There are only about   
5 PCBoard systems in New Zealand, and only one other one in my city.  I   
suspect this is because of its price.  We have Telegard and Spitfire and   
Maximus systems aplenty, and if it came to a choice between any of those   
and PCBoard, I know which type of system I would rather call as a user.  
  
Jonathan.  
   
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: jacor@camelot.bradley.edu (James Corbett)
Subject: bbs in 815 area code
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: comp.bbs.misc
Date: 15 Nov 92 23:15:37 GMT



hey, I need some help......

could someone mail me a list of bbs in the 815 area code linked up to 
internet????

thanks!!!




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Xref: sparky comp.bbs.misc:1276 alt.bbs:7030
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs
Subject: USA Today Online.
From: jim.wenzel@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (Jim Wenzel) 
Date: 17 Nov 92 07:00:00 GMT
Reply-To: jim.wenzel@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (Jim Wenzel) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The GrapeVine BBS *** N. Little Rock, AR *** (501) 753-8121


Keith R. * I seem to remember awhile back that  there was a door for bbs
           use  that would  allow you  to receive  USA Today  for online
           reading.  Could  someone  give  me  more  information  on the
           program and what it costs to receive the service
                                 = = =

  There is a  door written by Gary Smith out  of Atlanta that works real
  well. It was  written for USA Today. I don't  have his BBS number here
  but, the program is available on our BBS as well. As for cost you need
  to contact  BoardWatch. They sell the  service. Hopefully someone will
  post the number.

  If you call our BBS join conference #5 and do a 'z'ippy search for USA

*  Jim Wenzel,  SysOp,  The GrapeVine BBS,  (501) 753-8121  5.6 gigs  *
*  RIME, Use-Net, ForthNet, SmartNet, MetroLink, Intelec , RecoverNet *
*  ThrobNet and MediaNet message echos.  Large IBM, Amiga, Adult and  *
*  Programming file areas. PGP 2.0 public key available upon request  *

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: POWERBOARD BBS PACKAGE  
From: Jonathan_Mosen@kcbbs.gen.nz (Jonathan Mosen)
Date: 24 Nov 92 18:07:17 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

s4uhkm@fnma.COM (Howie Michalski) writes:   
>So don't shoot down the folks (like me) who have chosen to run a PC  
>based system, using PCboard.  It is a solid package with great customer  
>support that is flexible enough to do ANYTHING that CAN be done on  
>a PC-based system.    
  
I agree Howie.  I've tried a number of different bbs packages including   
Wildcat, Maximus, Remote Access, Ultrabbs and a few others.  I know that   
I am likely to stay with PCBoard.  Their customer support is first rate,   
not just compared with other bbs packages, but software in general.  The   
third party utilities available add much flexibility both for the sysop   
and the user.  But I guess when someone comes out with a great product,   
there is a certain type of person who will consider it trendy to run it   
down.  But at least you and I and thousands of other customers   
world-wide can be secure in the knowledge that we have a package which   
suits our needs and continues to provide power to its users.  
  
Jonathan  
   
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc