HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: erika@znext.cts.com (erik astrup)
Subject: Re: Uneven Front tyre
Organization: pnet
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:35:30 GMT

blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
: erika@znext.cts.com (erik astrup) writes:
: >joe@rider.cactus.org (Joe Senner) writes:
: 
: >: so your michelin's were underinflated and the ME33's weren't. 
: 
: >	*Not*  Sorry, try again oh overinflated one. The tires were kept
: >inflated to the recommended pressures in both cases.
: 
: "THE" recommended pressure? Who's recommendation? The factory's for the
: stock tire, or the tire manufacturer's for their tire on your bike?
: -- 
	Yes, "THE" recommended tire pressure. "Who's recomendation"? A
Michelin Tire rep I asked while spectating at a race at Sears Pt. Is
that a reliable enough source for ya? Jeeezus. 


 ==============================================================================
  Erik Astrup                   DOD #683                            AFM #422

  1993 CBR 900RR  *  1990 CBR 600  *  1990 Concours *  1980 GL1100 Interstate

      "This one goes to eleven" - Nigel Tufnel, lead guitar, Spinal Tap
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From: ward@cs.uiuc.edu (Christ Ward)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BMW R80/6 manual
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:48:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.BxnyoM.1JF
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL

jimbes@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (james.bessette) writes:

>In article <1992Nov11.151638.13012@bmers95.bnr.ca> quiniou@bnr.ca (Henri Quiniou) writes:

>I own a Haynes manual.  My dealer recommended it over the BMW shop manual
>because he said it would be easier to understand. (Less technical?)  That's
>fine for me.  I think he said it explained things better and took less for
>granted (BMW motorcycle knowledge wise).

I got a question about the Haynes.  I just ordered one and am picking it up 
soon.  The one I ordered covers many years (BMW).  I read on rec.cage that
Haynes makes ones for specific years...is this true for motorcycles?  I 
I think I'll pick up the multi-year one anyway, but, should I get the year
specific one also? (if they exist)

ward DoD#0710

P.S. this is for a 1974 BMW R60/5.

>>Henri Quiniou
>>(no e-mail!!)

>Henri, please use e a carriage return after 80 characters if you could.

>Jim Bessette
From: hesh@cup.hp.com (Chris Steinbroner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: *** '74 KAW MACH II ***
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:24:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: cup.BxKM4L.2wG
Reply-To: Chris Steinbroner <hesh@cup.hp.com>
Organization: HP-UX Kernel Lab, Cupertino, CA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

got this from a clymer and  Kaw. shop manual:.

-- hesh

-----

1972:	S1		250cc
1973:	S1A		250cc
1974:	S1B		250cc
1975:	S1C		250cc
1976:	KH250-A5	250cc
1976:	KH250-B1*	250cc
1977:	KH250-B2*	250cc
1978:	KH250-B3*	250cc
1979	KH250-B4*	250cc
1980	KH250-B5*	250cc

1972	S2		350cc	Mach I
1973	S2A		350cc

1974	S3		400cc	Mach II
1975	S3A		400cc
1976	KH400-A3	400cc
1977	KH400-A4	400cc
1978	KH400-A5	400cc
1979	KH400-A6	400cc
1980	KH400-A7	400cc

????	H1		500cc	Mach III
????	KH500		500cc

????	H2		750cc	Mach IV

* European model
Lines: 40
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 07:58:39 MST
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: 2-strokes (was:Re: REQUEST: short fella has a question or two...
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
From: bigdog@bones.et.byu.edu (Dan Canfield)

In article <1992Nov12.215739.10125@rd.hydro.on.ca> jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:
>
>Flame me if I'm wrong (or even if I'm right, if that turns you on) but I
>believe that 2-strokes pollute because of the unburned mixture that winds
>up in the exhaust at low rpm, and that the oil has little to do with it.
>In fact, catalytic converters easily take care of these large-particle
>emmissions, and 2-strokes produce less noxious gas, which is harder to get
>rid of. The environment is one reason why the car makers are putting 
>research efforts into 2-stroke technology these days.
>

No flames Jody, atleast not now.:-)

Actually your exactly right, the problem with the 2-stroke and the epa is
the unburned fuel in the exhaust at any speed which contributes to terrible
emmisions.  I did my senior thesis on 2-strokes and fuel injection.  The
current research is looking into direct fuel injection into the cylinder
after the exhaust ports have closed.  A group in Australia did some wokr
with this and were able to obtain a 70% decrease in large-particle 
emmissions.  Their idea involved a second hole in the head next tothe
spark plug which had an injector tapped into it.  The computer waited until
the exhaust port closed then injected the gas cloud.  They and IRS in 
Colorado also found that gas cloud shape and density had a large affect
on emissions.

Basically what it boils down to is that with the advent of fuel injection
and computer controled spark and injection, there seems to finally be a
conceivable solution to the 2-strok emmissions problem and thus streetable
2-strokers are hopefully on the close horizon.


Dan Canfield
bigdog@bones.et.byu.edu

DoD #0071,RP90
'89 FJ1200
'89 Indy707
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: robert@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Robert Kennedy)
Subject: Re: I fought the law and won (again)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 06:18:06 GMT

In article <1dq74tINN65m@west.West.Sun.COM> gaijin@ale.Japan.Sun.COM (John Little - Nihon Sun Repair Depot) writes:
> %  ...they were travelling at a uniform distance of 10 yards behind
> %  each other 
> Now this I'd -really- like to see!!!

You've never seen a bike with a reverse gear?

Now you know why they put them on leadwings and comparable bikes.

	-- Robert

Robert Kennedy					(415) 723-4532 (office)
robert@cs.stanford.edu				(415) 322-7367 (home voice)
Computer Science Dept., Stanford University	(415) 322-7329 (home tty)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: L629159@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: Please respond (I suspect something is wro
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 23:43:50 GMT

Ed Green, former Ninjaite  responds:

Loud and clear in North Carolina, USA!

Also comprehensible on the West Coast.

Al Moore    DoD  734
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: pooder@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Don Fearn)
Subject: Re: Long winter's nap . . .
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:57:23 GMT
Reply-To: pooder@msus1.msus.edu
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <61876@mimsy.umd.edu>, leavitt@cs.umd.edu (Mr. Bill) writes:
|> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
|> >The latest Road Rider winter storage guide said to drain the old filter
|> >and return it to the bike for the storage period, replacing it in the
|> >spring.  The justification given was something profound, like "trust me."
|> 
|> You, of course, know what "trust me" is a synonym of...  ;^)
|> 
|> >Why?
|> 
|> Too cheap to "waste" a new filter, perhaps?  What about the oil?  That
|> costs as much or more than the filter.  Do they recommend using the
|> storage oil upon returning the bike to service?  I sure hope not.
|> 

Why not?  It's clean oil (unless you started your motorcycle in the winter)
and I use the same type of oil for storage as I do during the riding season.

I just return the motorcycle to service and change the oil at the next 
change interval timed from when it was put back into service.  Am I missing
something here?  

I *always* change the filter when I change the oil.  I have no idea why 
Road Rider would suggest otherwise for winter storage.  I haven't seen the
article; what exactly did they say? 

-- 

   Pooder  -  Rochester, MN   -  DoD #591  -  LotN (Loser of the Number) 
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
  "What Do *You* Care What Other People Think?" -- Richard Feynman 
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
   I share garage space with:   Gretchen - '86 K75   Harvey - '72 CB500  
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From: tomes@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: what is Too Much Power?
Keywords: this is not bait
Date: 11 Nov 92 02:41:17 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA

In article <1992Nov10.233404.21848@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> harsh@inetnode.austin.ibm.com (Harsh Sharma) writes:
>
> I think I am ready for a Advance Course now. But I know, I have to use
>my own bike for this course. That kind of makes me nervous, would the
>test really push hard? What does it involve? I know, I rather find out
>what I can/ can't do under controlled conditions than on the freeway, but
>I still would not want to risk damaging my bike in the Advanced Course.

At no time is a MSF student required to complete an exercise if he/she
feels that they cannot do it.  The Experienced RiderCourse is not a pass/fail
course, and the evaluations of rider skill are provided for the self-assurance
of the rider.

I feel that the ERC is actually MUCH safer than the Basic course because the
riders are on a bike that they know.  The safe limits for you and your machine
have already been established, and you probably already have all of the skills
taught.  All the ERC is for is to reinforce those skills and provide a forum
for experienced riders to share their cumulative skills and experiences in
a semi-structured environment.  If this sounds like an organized bull session
with a MSF certified Instructor present to keep the discussion close to
reality and some really fun range exercises, you get the idea.

I had lots of fun when I took it on my GL1100.  The instructor didn't even
push the cones out for the bigger bikes...made it more of a challenge for
us (3 full dress HDs, 2 'Wings and some smaller stuff).

The only exercise I bagged was the rear wheel skid: I had just dropped $200
on new Metzelers. 'nuff said?

The nice thing  about the ERC was that you didn't have to deal with people who
were required to be there to get a license, or had been pressured into it
by husbands/wives/parents/anyone.  Everyone was there to have fun.

Short version: don't worry, be happy.

Every ERC is different (different students=different experiences) so it
is more fun to take multiple times than the MRC:RSS, imho.

BTW, most administrators/instructors will not allow you to use your own bike
in MRC:RSS (Beginning RiderCourse) because of insurance liabilities.  The
ERC has some of the advanced range exercises from the basic course, and
some that are not in the basic course.

CP Tomes
Straight, and damn sick of everyone telling everyone else what is RIGHT.
Vote the bastards out and junk the stupid laws.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: L629159@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: Space Oddity
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 23:28:16 GMT


John Osborne asks in part:

What are good bikes for tall people?  My lover is about 6'3" or so
and he occasionally talks about getting a bike.  Personally, I
think he should get a Buell RSS1200 or a Harley Springer and let me
ride it all the time, but that probably won't happen as price is
a consideration. :)

I'm about 6'3", and I'm pretty comfortable on my Guzzi 850 T3,
but with a passenger, I sometimes worry about my knees and the
heads.

(Think of the Guzz as a proud BMW R-bike -- It holds its heads up)

Al Moore  DoD 734
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: British rides
Date: 12 Nov 1992 16:53:28 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 23787@acs.ucalgary.ca, parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes:
>In article <1drdatINNfh@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>>
>>In most states in the US, statutory rape laws forbid consentual sex
>>with any minor female (ie, under 18), and one can obtain a motorcycle
>>license at ~16.
>
>I thought the age-O-consent was 16 down there? 

It varies by state.  A recent talk show had a 17 year old guy being
convicted due to consentual sex with a 14 year old girl.  He pointed
out the interesting fact that in FL, a 14 year old girl can legally
have an abortion without her parents' consent, but cannot legally have
sex.  Nobody ever said our laws have to make sense!

>I prefer my women old enough to make interesting
>conversation.

Um, under the circumstances being considered, "ooh, ooh, baby, baby"
generally qualifies.  :^/

>What are the legal biking ages? 

It varies by state.  The feds are extorting the states to increase the
age, the way they did with the drinking age.  In *most* states, I
believe it is 16.  Some states (I believe TN) have "daylight-only" or
"home-to-work/school-only" licenses for younger people who can prove a
"hardship" necessity.


---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: mikesteg@syclone.detroit.sgi.com (Mike Stegbauer)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: High speed in USA?
Date: 13 Nov 92 19:51:48 GMT
Reply-To: mikesteg@syclone.detroit.sgi.com (Mike Stegbauer)
Organization: sgi

In article <1992Nov12.231716.27@iris-dcp.es>, marrevola@iris-dcp.es writes:
|> I have just read the review about '93 ZX-11 in our best spanish magazine:
|> Motociclismo. Our pressman was arrested cause he was riding at 80 mph.
|> He could not tell his readers how the bike is, but He told us many things
|> about that fuckin'jail.
|> 

That's the problem with going 80 mph, the cops can catch you.
Seriously, no one gets arrested for going 80 mph, unless you're in a school
zone. 

|> Do you think that Kawasaki had a good idea by showing its new bike in US?
|> 
|> Do bike-riders go fast in US? How many of you have been arrested?
|> Cheers,

As fast as is moderately safe, I am personnally more concerned about killing 
someone else than myself, at least I have a choice.

Never been arrested, like I said, they can't get your plates at 130mph.
It seems to me, that if you are safe, most cops don't really care how fast you
go, I've past cops at 25 over (80 mph) and they don't care.  They have their
detectors set to 90 mph, cause they can catch some stupid f**k five minutes 
later anyway.

One of my aquaintances claims his buddy was arrested, but he ran about 20-30 miles,
and dumped his bike into a cop car (stopped).  I'd arrest him too.
|> 
|> manolo@taf.fundesco.es
|> ZX-11
|> DR-600-S
|> DoD? Waiting the K...
|> 
|> 
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: chris@neon.rain.com (Chris Perez)
Subject: Re: K75 or K100 (why 100?)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:01:44 GMT

blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:

>bergman@panix.com (Mark Bergman) writes:
>>I'm considering one of the following for my new spring bike:
>>	FJ1200
>>	K75s
>>	R100RS

Yeeeoooo. 

>>                                            Would the k100
>>offer significantly easier cruising or passing ability with
>>passenger and luggage?

What?  No.  The K100 _does_ give a good vibra-sag (just like them
beds in those sleezy hotels I know nothing about.  K100s vibrate like
pigs.  Paint quality sucks.  They're slow.  They have less torque than
an FJ.  And they wobble around corners. 

>                                          Shout if you want about 200K
>of net.wisdom on the FJ.

Actually, look into a new Ducati 907.  You'd have more smiles per mile
and touring comfort to spare. 


Christopher Perez - chris@neon.rain.com
"Do NOT use this brain.  Abnormal."  The warning Igor ignored...
From: leavitt@cs.umd.edu (Mr. Bill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: *** '74 KAW MACH II FOR SALE ***
Date: 12 Nov 92 01:33:21 GMT
	<1992Nov11.173241.29436@microunity.com>
Organization: The Cafe at the Edge of the Universe

john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton) writes:
>The Mach III was the H1 500 triple, the Mach IV was the H2 750 triple, and
>I don't remember anything at all like a Mach II 400 triple in '74.

ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) replies:
>The designation I remeber for the 400 was S3.  The 350 triple was
>called the S2, and I have no idea what the 250 was called (S0.5 perhaps?).
>The 400 was a nice bike in it's era; I had two of 'em.  They were made
>from '74 to '77.

The complete breakdown on the Kawi 2-stroke triples:

	Displacement	Designation

	250cc		S1, KH250
	350cc		S2
	400cc		S3, KH400
	500cc		H1, KH500
	750		H2

I don't know what the differences are between the S/H and the KH models.
I can also never keep straight which are the "Mach Whatever."

Mr. Bill
-- 
Bill Leavitt  DoD: #224  Domain: leavitt@cs.umd.edu  UUCP: uunet!mimsy!leavitt
1982 CBX (White Lightning), 1982 GS850G (Suzibago), 1976 CJ360T (Little Honda)
"Due to circumstances beyond your control,                               =o&>o
=o&>o                   you are master of your fate and captain of your soul."
From: marrevola@iris-dcp.es
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Break-in (what is it?)
Date: 6 Nov 92 10:06:43 +0100
Organization: REDIRIS, Red Nacional de I+D

In article <RTARAZ.92Nov5123720@bigwpi.WPI.EDU>, rtaraz@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz) writes:
> 
> I was asked by somebody about why a motorcyle has to be broken-in.
> Although I kinda know why, I couldn't give a good answer.
> Can you guys give a good convincing answer?
> 

Even the best finished part of a bike's engine needs a braking in period. The
finish of some parts (crankshaft, connecting rods, pistons, etc) is almost
perfect, but not perfect at all. They need a time where their own friction give
them this "perfect" finish and then, everythig will go smoother.

manolo@taf.fundesco.es
ZX-11
DR-600-S
From: cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Passenger Clothing (how fascist are YOU?)
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:50:58 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Nov7.071302.13943@panix.com> bergman@panix.com (Mark Bergman) writes:
>My wife rides with me as a passenger, usually on balmy summer weekends.
>She prefers to wear jeans and sneakers. I bought her a nice leather
>jacket, and a good helmet. She strongly resists wearing gloves, boots,
>or more protective gear.

>I'm loathe to refuse to take her as a
>passenger due to her lack of protective gear for some of the same
>reasons I continue to ride. I feel she is aware of the risks, and she
>chooses to respond as she does.

>How do you deal with your passenger's clothing choices?

My SP (Significant Pillion) used to strongly resist wearing the
thermal long johns, big boots with double socks, heavy gloves with
overmitts, woollen shirt, heavy jumper, lined jeans, neck sock, and
winter-lined oversuit I advised her to wear. She thought it made her
look fat. "Hell!", I said, "if you _weren't_ fat you'ld have to wear
even more!" She didn't seem to appreciate the logic of this at all,
and insisted on selecting her own gear.

So we set off in the dark black cold of a winter night to reach the
Oban ferry by 8am. After an hour of 70mph at zero degrees C we had to
stop for an extra breakfast to thaw her out. Which made us miss the
Oban ferry. So we decided to go through the pass of Glencoe, after
checking with the local police that the snow hadn't made the road
impassable, to reach the Lochaline ferry which ran more frequently.

Sweeping through the deserted Glen with stunningly vast snow covered
mountains rearing all around us, lit by the limpid early sunrise, was
an extraordinary experience. Yet the SP was so cold that despite her
normally cautious nature she asked me if I couldn't go a little
_faster_ on these frost-sparkling and snow-dusted roads!

As we waited at the quayside for the Lochaline ferry, thawing in the
mild winter morning sun over a third third breakfast of Scotch Broth
and Venison burgers, she decided -- after the power of speech had
returned -- that in future she would take my advice about what to
wear.

But what about _summer_ wear I hear you cry? Yes, she did like to
sport flimsy elegant stuff. Until we fell off the bike into a pile of
steaming sheepshit on a single track Highland road.
-- 
Chris Malcolm    cam@uk.ac.ed.aifh          +44 (0)31 650 3085
Department of Artificial Intelligence,    Edinburgh University
5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK                DoD #205
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Subject: Re: Helmet Laws
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Distribution: ca
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:57:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov05.215950.8010@gecko.uucp> ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed Campbell) writes:
>
>>Is it true that the California helmet laws will be null and void come the first of the year? I swear I've heard that from more than one person and never heard a word of it on the news or in the papers. If anyone has info please enlighten me. Much thanks!
>>
>>--  
>>Jeff Martin
>
>
>   ABATE, MMA, and others are working on it. The state has made
>about as much money on it as they can, other politicians are probably
>a little nervous about supporting this BS now that motorcycles
>deaths per accident are *up* some 8%, and Dick(head) Floyd has
>been fired by his once trusting constituancy. So, maybe...
>
>

Ted Lyon, asshole originator of the Texas helmet law, also got the boot 
this last election. Maybe there's hope here too.

Jeff Achenbach
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: druth@erg.sri.com (Doug Ruth)
Subject: Does ba.motorcycles exist?
Keywords: Honda
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 20:31:21 GMT

I've seen references to the newsgroup ba.motorcycles, however I can't
get it here at my organization.  Does it exist?

Thanks.

-- 
-- Doug Ruth         | druth@erg.sri.com  | SRI International
-- '91 BMW R100GS/PD | Work:(415)859-3860 | 333 Ravenswood Ave.
-- AMA #: 197665     | Home:(415)962-9808 | Menlo Park, CA 94025
--
From: marrevola@iris-dcp.es
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: high mileage
Date: 10 Nov 92 09:39:40 +0100
Distribution: rec
Organization: REDIRIS, Red Nacional de I+D

In article <1992Nov9.130407.27680@lth.se>, henrik@tde.lth.se (Henrik B|rjeson) writes:
> I saw in the paper yesterday an advert for an old Honda CB 750 at a
> very affordable price. The problem is that the bike has run approx. 
> 18000 miles which seems to be a rather high mileage compared to
> others.
> 
> Does anybody have any experience on how many miles one may assume that
> an engine will last. Are there models more prone to wear than others ?
> Which parts wear out and what should you look for
> buying such a high mileage bike? Is it at all recommended ?
> 
> Ideas and opinions appreciated

A friend of mine sold one with 45000 miles, and the only problem was that the
engined wasted 1 litre of oil per 500 miles. New piston rings and gas!!

manolo@taf.fundesco.es
ZX-11
DR-600-S
Waiting for a DoD.