HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Nicolai.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Dan Flahive's Space Wolf
X-Sender: newtout 0.06 Jan  3 1993
Date: 20 Jan 93  19:10:39

On <Jan 18 10:36>, Fuzzy Fox (1:103/208) wrote to All:

 FF>I'd estimate the traffic on FurNet is about 10 times what it is 
 FF>on this
 FF>newsgroup.  Nah, make that 20.

The daily traffic on FurNet comes to about 180 messages per day,
total traffic on all conferences (this based on the echomail
inbound traffic report at the Aerie during the period
1/9/93 - 1/16/93).  Total of 1233 messages inbound during
that period.

The traffic on alt.fan.furry that reached the Aerie during the
same period?  Forty-five messages.

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From: peacock5293@iscsvax.uni.edu (Greywolf)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: FUR-losophy
Date: 22 Jan 93 10:09:19 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <93021.223935IO10716@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, IO10716@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Jason McIntosh) writes:
> In article <1993Jan21.185020.8016@rei.com>, fox@rei.com (Fuzzy Fox) says:
>>How can one explain a blonde-headed red fox character?  It just doesn't
>>seem to make sense.  It seems to me that the head-hair color should at
>>least be the same shade as the rest of the fur.  I can't imagine why a
>>furry would want to bleach their hair, either.

Well, the way *I* see it is that it can be any blasted color the artist
*wants*.  We *are* talking about fictional characters here, no?  All the gripe
about furries not acting enough like their "species", or that they *should*
only have 3 fingers per hand ... well, I just think it's silly.

> Actually, just the fact that female furries have 'hair' is buggy enough,
> at least to me. Is that just really long and differently textured fur, or
> separate hair? And why dont the males ever get it? They'd all be bald as
> cues in human parallels, by this standard.

For me, it's because they *look* neater when I draw 'em.  Incidentally, I'll
stick head hair on the males, too, and even on my reptiles.  =)  (Maned
dragons...)  Heh. I think I even sometimes stick hair on some of my avians,
too.  Oh boy, I just *know* that'll make some of those furry-bird-advocates
upset, eh?

> But then, there's so much more stuff about furries I've never seen covered.
> Like... do they shed regularly, or go to full-body barbers, or what?
> It's reasons like these that make me group all of furrydom with 'toons in
> my mind and leave it at that.

So, are we supposed to be apologetic for not going into the nitty-gritty about
all the little details about furry life in every story?  I know good and well
that some authors have covered such things to one extent or another in their
stories, and I'd be happy to leave it at that.  If I'm writing a story that's a
thriller, a fantasy adventure, or whatever, I *really* don't feel like being
compelled to have to sit down and explain all of my characters' hygiene habits
in great detail before I can get on with the story.

Now, I *must* concede that some things still strike me as strange for furries
... such as panty hose.  =,  Weird.
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From: mauser@intercon.com (Richard Chandler)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Off Line and News
Date: 25 Jan 1993 15:15:59 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Subject: Re: Off Line and News

Taral.Wayne@f432.n250.z1.fidonet.org writes:
 
> >The art shows a skunk-like character called a Teh Langgi, riding a pony-
> >thing, kneedeep in water, beach toys floating around their legs. 
 
> I download just about everything that ever crosses into Tezuka, and I 
> have not seen a picture that looks like this.  Perhaps it was not 
> scanned and uploaded after all. 

The problem is, Taral seems to have been singled out for
massive copyright violation by some jerk with a scanner.
This is particularly rancid because it really cuts into 
what little income he can make over his meager payments 
from the Canadian government.






Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
From: fuzzy@netcom.com (Fuzzy Fox)
Subject: Re: FUR-losophy
Organization: Foxes 'R' Us - Seven locations to serve you
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 04:18:06 GMT

peacock5293@iscsvax.uni.edu (Greywolf) writes:

>Well, the way *I* see it is that it can be any blasted color the artist
>*wants*.  We *are* talking about fictional characters here, no?

Just 'cause it's fictional doesn't mean it needn't make sense.  When
things make sense, it contributes to that quality called "suspension of
disbelief," which is a good thing to find in a story.

>So, are we supposed to be apologetic for not going into the nitty-gritty about
>all the little details about furry life in every story?

No, but think how much more realistic (maybe even interesting) your
story might be if you just sat back and thought about it for a bit, and
maybe dropped an occasional hint or two about such things, just to get
the reader thinking about such things.  Fun stuff.

Sheesh, don't be so defensive.  :)

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
From: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk (Clive Grace)
Subject: Re: Dan Flahive's Space Wolf
Reply-To: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:12:00 +0000


> Are you sure?  The reason I left Fur-Net many months back is that there
> is TOO MUCH to read!  I already waste plenty of time on UseNet and MUD's
> and other stuff.  I could probably read Fur-Net if I gave up sleeping.  :)

Well, the Signal/Noise ratio here is pretty good, I assume that it's 
as high on Fur-Net no?

<grin> I know what you mean though. I have had to get a V42bis modem 
simply to travel at 19,200 baud (around 1,900bps) in order to keep up 
with Usenet traffic -- perhaps an ISDN line should have been a better 
bet.
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From: Paul_Trauth@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Paul Trauth)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Gender of Furries
Distribution: world
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:24:52 CST
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

In a message dated Tue 26 Jan 93 22:11, Peacock5293@iscsvax.uni.edu (greywo
wrote:

 P> Now, I *might* contend that things are a bit too much on the
 P> cheesecake side in
 P> furrydom for my personal tastes, but that's about it.  I'm inclined to
 P> think
 P> that a lot of writers have had it hammered into them so many times
 P> that it's a
 P> bad thing to give all the good parts to males that it's probably
 P> likely there
 P> are a lot of writers who are consciously putting a female in the lead
 P> role in
 P> order to offset that.  Of course, it could be just that Jim Groat
 P> likes to draw
 P> scantily-clad warrior-mares.  {shrug}

That last sounds just as likely as any other reason. I enjoy drawing
scantily clad females. So i draw a lot of 'em, and several of my sort of
continuing characters happen to be well-built females of varying species.
(No, you haven't seen 'em anywhere yet...)
Sexist? Well, quite possibly. None of the women i know have ever objected
to the fact that virtually all my female characters are stacked. (grin)

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
From: bmarcum@world.std.com (Bill Marcum)
Subject: Re: FUR-losophy
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:03:53 GMT

In article <1993Jan17.134403.9920@iscsvax.uni.edu> peacock5293@iscsvax.uni.edu (Greywolf) writes:
[Someone else said the part  after >>.  I'm not going to undelete all those
lines just to get the name]
>
>> She really hate the latest Furlough which has a blonde vixen that is the
>> typical airhead sterotype. :O
>
>Which story & character was that?  (and which issue?  #5?)

It's in issue #6, in a story called "Hairlift" by Toivo Rovainen, inked by
James Ernest and lettered by Carol Monahan.

SPOILER WARNING


 A female fox dries her hair by sitting on the wing (or whatever you
call it, anyway, on the outside) of a helicopter gunship, wearing only
a towel.  She then falls off, and so does the towel.  The copter crew
have to fight off enemy helicopters before going down to save her.  The
pilot says "It'll be alright.  Blondes fall real slow."

I can see why some readers might be offended, but I liked the story.
That was one cute fox.  Drying her hair that way may be dumb, but
we see other characters doing the same thing.

Bill Marcum  bmarcum@world.std.com
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From: dagraf@pro-amber.cts.com (Dean Graf)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: ConFurence 4 - Retrospect
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:14:27 GMT
Organization: ProLine [pro-amber] -- Spring Valley, Ca

Well, another ConFurence has come and gone.  Who attended?  What did you
think?  I enjoyed myself, but then again any weekend away from the normal
routine when I make a profit is enjoyable.  Can we have some responses on
(1) the hotel, (2) the cabaret that almost wasn't, (3) the art show, (4)
the con in general?
        Just to start things going, here are my sentiments on the above.  I
like Red Lion hotels, and this one was no exception.  I'm pleased to hear
that ConFurence 5 will be held at the same place.
        I didn't make the cabaret (it was sold out and then some by the
time I thought about getting tickets).  I did hear plenty of horror stories
about the run-in with security (just one of a few incidents), the
over-selling of the room (oops), and the two-hour late start (oops again).
It's a shame things went as rough as they did.  There'
there's always next year.
        The art show was an art show.  John Stanley did his usual
competent-if-stressed job of handling it.  Kudos to he and his staff.
        Overall, as I said, I enjoyed the con.  I'm looking forward to next
January.  And I understand that management plans to have words with
security so they'll be a bit more tolerant and less draconian.
        Those are my thoughts.  Next?

ProLine:  dagraf@pro-amber
Internet: dagraf@pro-amber.cts.com
UUCP:     crash!pro-amber!dagraf
From: co252@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Craig F. Aoki)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Zoomorphica
Date: 22 Jan 1993 01:22:32 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Does anyone know what happened to Zoomorphica and Watts Martin?
(That's the guy that was publishing it right?)
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
From: duehara@yosemite.math.ucla.edu (Dana Uehara)
Subject: ConFURence -- address changes
Organization: Toonaholics Anonymous
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 22:25:51 GMT

When I went to ConFURence over the weekend, I filled out a registration
form with my name, address and telephone number.

However, since I may be moving in the next few weeks, I'll be changing
my address and phone number as well.  Does anyone know who I can or should
write to when I change my address and phone number?  (I do know my new
address, but as of yet do not know what my phone number will be).

I only registered for a two-day period (i.e. I'm not a sponsor or anything).

Personal email is preferred, but I do read this newsgroup on a semi-regular
basis...

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
From: bmarcum@world.std.com (Bill Marcum)
Subject: Re: FUR-losophy
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:15:39 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.185020.8016@rei.com> fox@rei.com (Fuzzy Fox) writes:
>
>This is something that's always kinda bugged me about some furry art.
>How can one explain a blonde-headed red fox character?  It just doesn't
>seem to make sense.  It seems to me that the head-hair color should at
>least be the same shade as the rest of the fur.  I can't imagine why a
>furry would want to bleach their hair, either.
>
One thing that I envy about animals is that they have such a variety of spots,
stripes, two-tones and other color schemes while humans mostly have
one color hair and one color skin (per person).  A horse's mane is
often lighter or darker than the rest of its coat.

Bill Marcum  bmarcum@world.std.com
From: nschnep@gamma.DOMAIN.NOT.SET (Neil Schnepf)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: New address for FurryMUCK?? ********
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:20:56 GMT
Reply-To: nschnep@gamma.DOMAIN.NOT.SET (Neil Schnepf)
Organization: Clemson University



Greetings all. I once played on Furry some months ago and have noticed that is 
has moved a few times since I was last there :) The most current MUDlist on caisr
has an address that isn't valid. Could someone post the new site for old
times sake? Thank you in advance :)
Xref: sparky alt.fan.furry:2810 rec.arts.comics.misc:13122
From: matwood@labhp12.cs.utah.edu (Mark Atwood)
Subject: Re: Life on FurryMUCK returns to normal
Date: 25 Jan 93 14:01:39 MST
Organization: University of Utah

In article <eyBHXB4w165w@runic.via.mind.org> thantos@runic.via.mind.org (Paul Williams[SysOp]) writes:
>
>  ... The only furry with workable tentacles...

There is a PamThreat / Displacer Beast running around on FurryMuck.

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
From: cinnibar@netcom.com (Jeff Wood)
Subject: Re: Furry centaurs
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:43:03 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.125125.24461@netcom.com> foxen@netcom.com (Foxen) writes:
>michael.armstrong@homebase.com (Michael Armstrong)  writes:
>>
>>Approxiately how old is these furry'taurs?  There was a lynx?'taur on
>>the cover of Epic magazine February '85.  It was done by Michael Wm.
>>Kaluta about 1979.  I just wonder how old the concept of alternate
>>centaurs is?
>>
>
>'Taurs of various types and species have been around for years and years
>and years.  I won't even TRY to guess when this all started.  I do know
>that the Centaur's Gatherum has had them for many years.  And if you get
>into Mythology, there've probably been various other 'taurs (other than
>minotaurs and centaurs) for a few thousand years.  Hmm.  I seem to recall
>some sort of 'taur type statue from babylonia.
>
>	- Foxen
>

<grin> Already we're getting into the Ancient Furries...just in time for CF4.
Great timing guys & gals & other_assorted_furballs. :X)

I'm looking forward to the SIG..*if* you don't exhaust the subject in the next
24 hours. ;X)

-- Cinnibar

Jeff Wood
cininbar@netcom.com
"There is no such thing as the beginning of a story"
From: mauser@intercon.com (Richard Chandler)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Life on FurryMUCK returns to normal
Date: 21 Jan 1993 10:01:16 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

> PW>  You know, I'm going to be in *real* trouble soon with questions 
  like 
  this floating to Furry players, especially as I run the (now furry) 
  incredible confused and condemned Tentaclees...  The only furry  with
   workable tentacles...  ;) 

> I guess the MUCKers will have to tackle that problem when they get to it 
> (or you. A real gripping problem.) ;) Okay enough puns. 
> 
> How can a furry have tentacles? 

Read the Journal Entries.  Elf has a race of characters called Tindals they 
have tentacles then end in boneless "mittens".
From: tmorgan@astro.as.arizona.edu (Tad Morgan)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Gender of Furries
Date: 22 Jan 93 06:49:14 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <570.472.uupcb@homebase.com> michael.armstrong@homebase.com (Michael Armstrong) writes:
>Can you list any furry/funy animal where the
>lead character is a female character? 

Well, off the top of my head I can think of at least three -- 
"Erma Felna, EDF", "Omaha, Cat Dancer", "Red Shetland".  They're all title
characters, even.  There's Beatrix Farmer, also.  Hepcats to me is an 
ensemble cast, so there isn't a lead character, but Erica's narration bits
qualify her as far as I'm concerned.

Tad
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
From: fuzzy@netcom.com (Fuzzy Fox)
Subject: Re: Dan Flahive's Space Wolf
Organization: Foxes 'R' Us - Seven locations to serve you
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 04:22:15 GMT

cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk (Clive Grace) writes:

>> The traffic on alt.fan.furry that reached the Aerie during the
>> same period?  Forty-five messages.

>Waah! I want in!

Are you sure?  The reason I left Fur-Net many months back is that there
is TOO MUCH to read!  I already waste plenty of time on UseNet and MUD's
and other stuff.  I could probably read Fur-Net if I gave up sleeping.  :)

Nicolai used to post the Fur-Net list every month or so...I would like
to see him post it one more time; that way we could find out for sure if
there is an evil net.person out there who messes around with that post
of his.  :)

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From: fuzzy@netcom.com (Fuzzy Fox)
Subject: Re: ConFurence 4 - Retrospect
Organization: Foxes 'R' Us - Seven locations to serve you
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 05:36:28 GMT

dagraf@pro-amber.cts.com (Dean Graf) writes:

>        The art show was an art show.

Can you be a bit more vague?  :)

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From: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk (Clive Grace)
Subject: Re: Colour FUR-losophy
Reply-To: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:11:00 +0000


> Most likely, yes.  The question is hairballs a major medical problem
> with feline morphs?  ALBEDO showed Erma 'washing' the cub.  Grooming
> could be achieved with brushes.  Maybe Kirby got a special attachment
> for furries. ;)

Well, with the amount of technology going around -- and looking at 
their paws, a hairbrush would be likely, but I felt that Erma's 
"grooming" Ro was more of a "bonding" thing than anything else.

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From: Nicolai.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Dan Flahive's Space Wolf
X-Sender: newtout 0.06 Jan  3 1993
Date: 20 Jan 93  19:07:42

On <Jan 17 15:07>, Randy Sopicki wrote to All:

 RS>What is FURNET?

FurNet is a loosely connected collection of FidoNet technology
BBSs with a common interest -- "anthropomorphics", or furry
animal fandom.  This tends to center around costuming and science
fiction stories with a "few" comics (USAGI YOJIMBO, OMAHA THE CAT
DANCER, HEPCATS, etc) thrown in for good measure.

This is not about beastiality and it's not about childishness.  It's
about being childlike, and retaining a certain sense of innocence.

If this is all just a little bit too weird out there for you, take
a look at one of the "saner" nets out there; we're only going to get
crazier as time goes by.

There are a bit over two dozen stations scattered across the
continental US and Canada on FurNet.

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From: bmarcum@world.std.com (Bill Marcum)
Subject: Re: Beatrix (Is it potter of farmer?)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:36:42 GMT

Steve Gallacci's rabbit character is Beatix Farmer.  Beatrix Potter is the
author of _Peter Rabbit_ and other children's books with animal characters.
Other than Albedo #7, the only other places I've seen Beatrix Farmer were in
Wild Kingdom and the Amazing Heroes Swimsuit Issue.

Bill Marcum  bmarcum@world.std.com

Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
From: bmarcum@world.std.com (Bill Marcum)
Subject: Re: Life on FurryMUCK returns to normal
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:11:37 GMT

In article <eyBHXB4w165w@runic.via.mind.org> thantos@runic.via.mind.org (Paul Williams[SysOp]) writes:
>
>  You know, I'm going to be in *real* trouble soon with questions like
>  this floating to Furry players, especially as I run the (now furry)
>  incredible confused and condemned Tentaclees...  The only furry with
>  workable tentacles...  ;)
>
You sure you're the only one?  I'd think someone would have a character the
same species as P'nyssa  (What was that species called?  Time to read the
Journal Entries again!)

Bill Marcum  bmarcum@world.std.com



Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
From: kmeyers@nyx.cs.du.edu (Karl Meyers)
Subject: Re: Furry Mecha pix?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 15:56:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.004516.17019@netcom.com> fuzzy@netcom.com (Fuzzy Fox) writes:
>Oh ye of little faith.  While I don't know of a specific site, I am sure
>that there is a site for Japanese Animation fandom (probably several),
>as I recall a friend of mine mentioning this fact.  You could probably
>find out about such sites by asking in a few newsgroups, such as:

>alt.manga
>rec.arts.manga

Another idea is to check the FAQ for rec.arts.anime; I believe there's a
Anime/Manga FTP site listed there.

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