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From: bicker@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (The Resource, Poet-Magician of Quality)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.couples
Subject: Re: Sanctity of relationships
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:37:08 GMT
Reply-To: Brian.C.Kohn@att.com (The Resource, Poet-Magician of Quality)
Followup-To: alt.romance
Organization: The Internet

In article <1992Apr8.060127.7034@u.washington.edu> hevern@cac.washington.edu (M. Hevern) writes:
>In article <4068@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu>, 6500ursa@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Disco Junkie) writes:
>> 1)  Live by the sword, die by the sword./What goes around, comes around.
>Ten points for accuracy, style, and form. This is *REAL* good explanation.

Yes...I must agree...

>People don't just change there stripes. The ever popular "I would
>*never* do that to you." defense is a bunch of s**t. What you see is
>what you get.  

People *can* change their stripes....it does take time and some serious
personal work.  I do most heartily agree with your assertion that
people can't change *overnight*.

-- 
Brian Charles Kohn             AT&T Bell Laboratories Quality Process Center
ISO Certified Lead Assessor    E-MAIL: att!hoqax!bicker  (bicker@hoqax.ATT.COM)
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                   Stamp Out "SO": "RP" = "Romantic Partner"
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: puter@no1home.nashvil.ingr.com (Software Dude)
Subject: Re: yoohoo hi
Organization: WHAT?
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 15:34:43 GMT

 grx0262@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
>yoohoo? hi?
>i am sorry?
>are you?
>???
>
Nope. I'm Puter. Pleased to meetchya, sorry.
--
Puter		puter@no1home.nashvil.ingr.com		Go UofL Cardinals!
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: karleen sue davis <ksdavis@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Do You Remember - early '60s edition
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:14:15 -0500

ken@batman.austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach) writes:

>Toggles - They put Legos to shame! Multi-colored cubes with holes and
          pegs, girders, motors, air bladders, and funny animal heads.
          (everybody looks at me like I'm insane when I mentione these!)
          Did anyone else have these?
 
This is BLASPHEMY!!  Pure, utter BLASPHEMY!!  I'll defend Legos to my death! 
Love your inferior building toys as you will, but never touch my Legos!!!!!!

*snicker*
Karleen

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"Truth emerges more readily from error than from confusion." -- Francis Bacon
From: erc@pogo.Corp.Sun.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Ed and Teresa (Carp ????)
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:03:39 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: pogo.corp.sun.com

In article <16APR199216563964@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison) writes:

>.. no, you're a *blond* !!! You'll *never* get it ! :-)

If she's a blonde, chances are that she WILL get it...<evil grin> :)
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From: erc@pogo.Corp.Sun.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: a question
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:09:49 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: pogo.corp.sun.com

In article <6APR199211450499@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison) writes:

>(...and don't think I didn't already consider *and* reject the Jack-In-The-Box 
> joke.  It was too tasteless even for *me*... oops.)

[popping in from porting-software-to-linux-land]

I didn't know that ANYTHING was too tasteless for you, Stephen! :)
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From: schoonjans@katk.Helsinki.FI (Schoonjans Daniel)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Getting friends with your SO
Date: 6 Apr 92 11:09:55 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki, Computing Centre

To:       stefanos
Subject:  RE : Remaining friends with an ex SO
Reply-to: daniel.schoonjans@helsinki.fi
Date:     6 Apr 92 13:57:29
Hello!
Y> I think we are doing the right thing ( but i'm not totally
Y> sure ).
Y> and have both decided to remain friends.
Sounds somehow very familiar. Anna and me decided last summer to
stop our engagement and to keep seeing each other as friends.
Until now it has worked out, but easy is a different thing (at
least for me) Anna found a new boyfriend in the meanwhile, they
are getting married next summer (destiny can go strange ways).
The new guy doesn't have anything against it that the two of us
see sometimes, keep in touch and things like that, but I never
met him in person and I'm not sure he knows that Anna and me had
something in common before.
The relation somehow seems to stay, we both try to build it in a
different way than it went before, and I guess as long as we
keep on trying, it will go on. But I have of course no idea how
it will go between the two of you.
I have to say it was the worse as long as I was not totally sure
it was the best and right thing to do, but now that I got
convinced that it was the right thing to do, things happen
easier. Guess it is necessary to accept first that the one thing
stopped, before you can start building on the next one.
Hope this helps you somehow.
You can always contact me through the net, if you want to know
something more.
Daniel
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Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles,soc.couples
From: stcroix@ultra.com (Bill St. Croix)
Subject: Re: Sanctity of relationships
Followup-To: soc.couples, alt.sex.wanted 
Organization: Ultra Network Technologies
Distribution: world,soc
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 19:49:53 GMT

In article <RMELVIL.92Apr13154028@hughes.hacgate.UUCP> rmelvil@hughes.hacgate.UUCP (Richard Melville) writes:
>In article <92098.220232SEK@psuvm.psu.edu> SEK@psuvm.psu.edu (Sonja Kueppers) writes:
>
>> I think everyone should remember that not everyone who is married
>> *objects* to being wooed.  Indeed, not everyone who is married has a
>> spouse who objects to them being wooed.
>
>That sounds like me and my RP.  Woo away, I have no objections
>whatsoever.

And what exactly do extra-maritial affairs have to do with ROMANCE?  There
is nothing romantic about extra-maritial affairs, whether or not it is
an "agreement" between the parties 'involved'.

Take this discussion/solicitation to soc.couples and alt.sex.wanted

	Bill

---
I don't believe in the stars or the planets or angels watching from
above, but I believe there's a Ghost of a Chance, we can find someone to
love and make it last...
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: charon@diana.cair.du.edu (Chuck Haron)
Subject: The Wall
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 22:03:42 GMT

It has been said that "we must ever be on the search for some persons whom we
shall love and who shall love us in return;  for if good will and affection aer
taken away every joy is taken from life."

Doesen't ther come a time when one gets tired of beating his/her head against
The Wall, and the search just doesn't seem worth it anymore?
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: aatresa@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Teresa Kline)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Hello new found friends
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:27:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: lims02.17APR199213273669
Organization: Yeah, *right* !
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <17APR199212100471@rigel.tamu.edu>, dwb4025@rigel.tamu.edu (BARTEK, DAVID WINFIELD) writes...

>Who are Teresa and Ed?  *confused*

Two fellow romantics who met each other on alt.romance.  

And, howdy, ya'll!!

-- Teresa

		Life -- just for the FUN of it!!!!
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles,soc.couples
From: intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing)
Subject: Re: Sanctity of relationships
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: world,soc
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 15:19:24 GMT

In article <CSUAT.92Apr8011953@lily.warwick.ac.uk> csuat@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Pete "Ganders" Favelle) writes:
>
>on 7 Apr 92 05:59:29 GMT,
>rnjx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu said:
>
>> The question is this.  Is it ever morally and/or ethically O.K. to actively
>> try to woo one member of an existing relationship from that relationship so
>> that you may start one with her/him?  
>
>  As a general rule, I consider _anybody_ currently involved in a relationship
>to be `off limits'. My view is always that if _I_ were the one whose SO was
>being `wooed' from me, I'd be _seriously_ pissed off, and I wouldn't ever want
>to do that to someone.

Oh but dear boys, what about free will here?  You *can't* take anyone away
from somebody else.  Impossible.  This isn't the dark ages, you know.  I
am with who I am with purely from free choice.  There is no way anyone
could "woo me away" because I know what I want and I have it.  The only
way someone could be tempted away (or something like that) would be in the
case where the relationship was on rocky grounds anyway.  Don't flatter
yourselves, guys.  

>  As for someone who's engaged, I can't see _any_ way of justifying trying to
>start a relationship there. To me, engagement is a commitment to marriage, and
>my attitude is that marriage (and, therefore, engagement) is something I'd
>_never_ attempt to disrupt.

Again, it's not just a case of seeing a women you're attracted to and
deciding that you're going to make her forget her husband.  Good heavens. 
If you can "start a relationship" with a woman who's engaged you might ask
yourself just what's she's engaged in.

Angelwing  - Go ahead ...*try* to steal me.  Hah!

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* U. of Washington| play - therefore, he seeks woman as the most   *
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Xref: sparky alt.romance:6921 soc.singles:10935 soc.couples:2040
From: hevern@cac.washington.edu (M. Hevern)
Subject: Re: It's Whine Time Again...
Keywords: When
Organization: U.W. Information Systems
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 00:44:49 GMT

In article <ku6ktgINN9f2@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, erc@pogo.Corp.Sun.COM (Ed Carp) writes:
> Why so much worry about how long one has been dateless/SO-less?  Smacks of the
> old "I want somebody - anybody, just so I don't have to be alone, or be
> teased about it by others, or so they can bolster my own self-esteem."  Society teaches
> that you are absolutely worthless unless you "have someone".  Thank goodness, THAT
> myth is starting to be seen for the Madison Ave. marketing hype it truly is...

Geeze! Get an attitude adjustment. Some people have had good relationships and hope to have them again. You know the healthy kind that feel good to those involved. Crying in ones beer is perfectly acceptable, on occasion.

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From: erc@pogo.Corp.Sun.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Ed and Teresa  (Carp ????)
Date: 16 Apr 92 01:50:19 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: pogo.corp.sun.com

In article <15APR199218054633@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> aatresa@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Teresa Kline) writes:

>Glad you're enjoying it.  I think maybe we'll keep it up.  What do you 
>think, Ed?

I think so, too :)
--
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From: eva@bill.astro.uu.se (Eva rndahl)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: a question
Keywords: query
Date: 12 Apr 92 19:44:59 GMT
Organization: Astronomical Observatory, Uppsala, Sweden

OK. I'm new to the net, and I'm also not born to the english language. 
There's one thing that's been bugging me, and I hope someone will help me out.

WHAT DOES "SO" MEAN?????

I've been trying to crack that one for days now. Please don't laugh,
just tell me!


			-Eva
From: aatresa@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Teresa Kline)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Ed and Teresa (Carp ????)
Date: 17 Apr 92 12:58:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: lims02.17APR199207583583
Organization: Yeah, *right* !
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <kurudrINNcof@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, erc@pogo.Corp.Sun.COM (Ed Carp) writes...
>In article <16APR199216563964@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison) writes:
> 
>>.. no, you're a *blond* !!! You'll *never* get it ! :-)
> 
>If she's a blonde, chances are that she WILL get it...<evil grin> :)

Promises, promises.
-- Teresa

		Life -- just for the FUN of it!!!!
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: scott@phylo.life.uiuc.edu (Scott Howard)
Subject: Re: A Question for Females
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 21:04:38 GMT

<32DPO6T@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:

>If you do
>go out with someone who you were first friends with, and you break up for some
>stupid reason, you're out of a relationship and a friendship.

Wait, you mean you can't be friends with someone you sleep with?
I can't imagine doing something that intimate with someone I didn't
have a good friendship with.

--
	    "Language is a virus from Outer Space."
				    - William S. Burroughs

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft)
Subject: Re: Smilemakers
Keywords: Smilemakers request
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 19:23:54 GMT

In article <1992Apr17.184523.11704@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jshg1134@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey S. Hoeft) writes:
>
>Smilemakers has asked for assistance in making a little boy's dream
>come true.
>
>Seven year old Craig Shergold has an inoperative brain tumor and has very
>little time to live.  His wish is to collect the most business cards 
>received by an individual in order to be included in the Guiness Book of
>World Records. 
>

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!

He got better ages ago.  This is totally obsolete.  Stop it!

RNA


Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: bd427@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David J. Babinsky)
Subject: Re: What is love really about
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 18:44:46 GMT


In a recent post, Mick said:

Hi guys, just a little drunk.  My first post to this group, and I was
wondering what people really think this love thing is all about.  I have
been involved in a few quite pointless short relationships where there seemed
no real motivation, just a desire to get to know someone gone a little too
quickly.  What does it really mean to love someone, and does anyone know how
it really all happens, and is there any point going out looking for it or
does it find you.  Indeed, what does it mean to say that love has found you??

Sorry if this is a little philosophical, but I am wondering a little about how
it all fits together, since I have just moved cities, after a seemingly fairly
pointless relationship, where real love (whatever that means, i am after any
opinion) was absent and commitiment a dream.

Yours wearily,

Mick....


Well Mick, this is what love is all about.  Take all your feelings and 
emotions inside of you and express them.  Open up to someone who you 
feel close to.  But the key is listening.  Listen to their hopes and 
dreams and be there for them.  Love starts out as a friendship and grows
into something wonderful.  Soon you find yourself thinking about that
someone.  You are so in love that you literally can't eat, sleep, or
study without thinking about this person.  Then it grows more.  
Eventually, you can eat and sleep, but your thoughts keep thinking of
her.  In absence, your heart really does grow fonder and you find 
yourself writing poems, buying thoughtful cards, and doing whatever 
you think will make that someone special happy.  You get enjoyment
out of making your loved one happy.  It's like everyday is Christmas
and it is the most wonderful feeling in the world.  You can't wait
to be with her.  Even when you're out with the guys, you wonder what
it would be like if SHE was there with you to watch that movie or 
go bowling.  The true test is when you bring her to hand out with
your friends.  Because, Let's face it, you act differently with your
friends than with your girlfriend/spouse.  I find myself acting 
crazier with the guys.  Well, not anymore because I've been in
a relationship for 3 years now and my girlfriend has found out 
the truth about me.  I am crazy.  But getting back to love.  Love
is out there.  It starts with being happy with yourself and then
sharing that happiness with others.  And I can tell you from 
experience that it will happen someday (even when it seems like
it never will) and it is the best feeling you'll ever have!!
---The Love Doctor
-- 
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Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Wednesday, 15 Apr 1992 14:48:52 EDT
From: <32DPO6T@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: A Question for Females

     In response to the question you asked, I just have to tell you that I as a
 female would love to get involved with a friend.  Think of all the advantages,
1) you already know the person.  2) You most likely feel comfortable with the
person, of you wouldn't be friends with them.  I do know, however, that
relationships with friends are more trouble then they are worth.  If you do
go out with someone who you were first friends with, and you break up for some
stupid reason, you're out of a relationship and a friendship.  This is the way
I've lost many friends.  In my estimations, it makes more sense to be friends.
I hope you can understand where we're (women) are comming from.
Xref: sparky alt.romance:6741 soc.singles:10630 soc.couples:1942
From: SEK@psuvm.psu.edu (Sonja Kueppers)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles,soc.couples
Subject: Re: Sanctity of relationships
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:02:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92098.220232SEK
 <75nG027bc0Nq00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> <1992Apr7.214508.28116@csi.uottawa.ca>
Distribution: world,soc
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Apr7.214508.28116@csi.uottawa.ca>, tcl@csi.UOttawa.CA (Tim
Lethbridge) says:
>
>In my opinion the main things that should stop someone from 'wooing'
>someone else are 1) the potential SO has said *no*, or 2) the potential
>SO is *married*. Just being in a relationship is not enough.

I think everyone should remember that not everyone who is married
*objects* to being wooed.  Indeed, not everyone who is married has a
spouse who objects to them being wooed.

Admittedly, this is not the norm, and I am not trying to encourage you
to ask out people in this situation unless you're willing to accept
that you can't "steal them away".  However, if what you're looking for
is not a monogamous relationship, you may be perfectly happy with
this arrangement.

-Sonja
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From: michael@gandalf.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Michael Haardt)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: OVER EXITED *8) (was Re: End of Story (Was Re: OVER EXCITED *8))
Date: 15 Apr 92 11:45:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: gandalf.92041535
Reply-To: u31b3hs@messua.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Michael Haardt)
Organization: Gandalf - a 386-20 machine

To continue the original thread: I wrote that me and my net.romance will
meet in a few days.  Wowowowow -- now are sitting here together and it
is wonderful.  If you are in a net.romance and doubt about meeting, then
stop worrying and *meet soon* :-))) !

*very happy smile*

Michael and Mary (aka root and Twiggs in IRC)
--
PS: Lisa is right: Heaven is a hug and a smile :)
From: jodar@girtab.usc.edu (Nicholas Jodar)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Is this a common thing?
Date: 15 Apr 1992 07:39:53 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu
Summary: Down to the Wire....
Keywords: Abortion

In article <43483@as0c.sei.cmu.edu> kochmar@sei.cmu.edu (John Kochmar) writes:

>I don't fully understand the dynamics of why it all happens, but the
>introduction of an unexpected child tends to break up a lot of
>relationships that weren't really serious.  It seems a lot of it is
>caused by the emotional trama ...
[munch]
>Then again, I've
>seen a lot of serious relationships turn into marriages once an
>unexpected child was brought into the picture.

Exactly!  Trauma!

An abortion, as with any other major kind of trauma, puts the
relationship to a major test.  Those with problems get dashed to
pieces, and those that are long-term draw the couple firmly
together.

What's a real mess, though, is when the relationship gets dashed
to pieces, but the couple gets married ANYWAYS....  ARRRGGHH!!!

In any case, I agree with Chocolate John.  If you're gonna be
sticking it out, you'd better disabuse your girlfriend of her
misconception....

-Nick

'Aw, comon...  I'm tired...  Can't we skip the quote thingie today?'
From: erc@pogo.Corp.Sun.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Ed and Teresa (Carp ????)
Keywords: Let's mind our own business
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:52:06 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: pogo.corp.sun.com

In article <15APR199212144202@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison) writes:

>Ed's right ... 30-45 seconds of passion and it's all over. :-)

Yeah, that's about how long her orgasm would last...45 seconds of pure
pleasure...:)

>Better to stretch the anticipation out over, say, 2-3 years. 

Yes! :)

>*NOT* !

Oh, where's your spirit of fun, Stephen? :)
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