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From: joep@brahms.amd.com (Joseph Pawletko)
Subject: Re: Billy and Nantz
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:57:52 GMT

In article <pilhofer.41@edit.mndly.umn.edu> pilhofer@edit.mndly.umn.edu (ARON PILHOFER) writes:
>
>And I guess Rantz wouldn't be so bad if he didn't start on those hokey 
>cliches. He actually said:
>
>With Jalen Rose on the foul line: "It's not the first time a Rose was on the 
>line for a Michigan team." GODDAMN!
>Feel free to add to this list; it is not comprehensive.

Yes, there was also the "classic" (ugh...) when Mich was playing Cinn.
Rose was covering Van Excel, and Nantz said "If Rose and Van Excel went 
to the same school, the it would be a rock and roll back court of 
Exel Rose and Van Jalen."  (give me a break...)

-- joe

Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: lhsux@cellar.uucp (Lorne Schachter)
Subject: Re: The Championship Triangle in N.C.
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 11:12:35 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.90036.8828@ms.uky.edu> morgan@ms.uky.edu (Wes Morgan) writes:
>
>While we're dwelling in the realm of trivia, here's one for you.  Kentucky
>is the only team to win the NCAA, NIT, and Olympic titles in the same year.

Nope, only one team won both the NIT and NCAA in the same year and that was
CCNY in 1950 or 1951.

					Lorne
From: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: 1992 - A Year of Greatness
Date: 9 Apr 92 12:48:27 GMT
Reply-To: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center

In rec.sport.basketball.college, hartigse@fe638.cc.purdue.edu (Scott 
Hartig) writes:
:
:- 1992 was a season stacked with talent.  Any one person could give
:four or five variations of the All-American team.  Shaq, JJ, Miner,
:Laettner, Mourning, Day, MacLean, Houston(s), The Five X'Z.  WOW!!!
:Probably the most talented year since the early eighties. 
:
:- Duke starts out at #1 and finishes at #1.... Christian Laettner lived 
:up to his hype with an outstanding season and earned Player of the Year
:Honors in the ACC and in the NCAA.  Losing only two, Duke participated
:in what I say was the best game of the year, the overtime victory over
:Kentucky (the 1st Michigam matchup wasn't bad either). Congratulations 
:to the two-time defending National Champions Duke
:Blue Devils.

We are also very fortunate in that Duke Coach Mike Krzyzewski scheduled 
outstanding opponents in Duke's 1991-1992 schedule.  Thus, we got the 
opportunity to see Duke play against some outstanding teams such as 
St. John, LSU, Michigan, and UCLA.  Otherwise, we would always have 
nagging doubts in the back of our head, "What if Duke had played that
team? Duke probably would have lost..."

Because of Duke's tough schedule, and also because Duke met outstanding
teams possible in the NCAA Tournament, we can rest assured that Duke
has played against all strongest teams possible, and that Duke has won 
them all, and, therfore, rightfully deserves to be the National Champions.

Duke lost only to North Carolina (by two points) and Wake Forest (by 
four points), and in both games Duke wasn't at full strength.  Also,
Duke wasn't in full strength when it played UCLA during the season and
Michigan both times (in December, and again in the NCAA championship 
game).

If someone told you at the start of the season that Duke would beat
Michigan (twice), LSU, UCLA, Indiana, Seton Hall, Kentucky, and also 
win the ACC Tournament, would you believe him?  I don't think so.

My only regret is that Duke never got the chance to play against
Ohio State University.  It would have been interesting to see how Duke 
would handle OSU's JJ.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Steve Williams
swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil
From: wollum@dryer.ecn.purdue.edu (pack backer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Congraduate to Duke.....NOT!
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:42:33 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

>games, but the refs continued the no-call to Duke fouls.  So many
>times I saw Michigan players got push around under the basketball,
>
What about the time that Hurley got pushed?  CBS made sure that
they showed that instant replay.:^)
>This season's over.  What an ugly finish.  Hope next year will be
>better!  Go Ball State!  Go Hoosiers! and Go Iowa Hawks!
>
It will be if NCSU has finished rebuilding.  Go Wolfpack!
>W.T.L.

Mark
North Carolina State University Class of 1990
_______________________________________________________________
A sign in my office says:

Do NOT turn off cooling system unless the sun goes away or goes
supernova!
_______________________________________________________________
wollum@ecn.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: Re: knight out at IU
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 12:58:24 GMT
Organization: My Daddy, My Doggy, and Me
X-Bytes: 

Let me get this straight: Knight suspends a player for shouting an obscenity 
at someone in authority? Will wonders never cease?
-- 
Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu>  
You know, there's many a damned fool woulda swallered that.
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Gritter's Purdue Hoop Scoop
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:02:57 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin - Madison
Originator: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu

In article <1992Apr14.152752.21456@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler) writes:
>
>	It is being reported this morning by the "voice" of Purdue sports,
>	Larry Clisby, that Travis Trice will be transfering away.  This
>	will make room for new recruit Porter Roberts, who will apparently
>	sign this week.  Clisby got his information from the Princeton, IN,
>	radio station (that's Trice's hometown).  The Indianapolis Star
>	this morning also has a story concerning this...
>
>	I'd hate to see Trice leave.  I'd prefer one of the lead-footed
>	players to leave...  ;-)

This doesn't surprise me at all.  When Travis's playing time dwindled at
the end of the year, and then when the Porter Roberts buzz came out, it
seemed to me like the writing was on the wall here.  I think the sum of it
is that Travis is too inconsistent, yet too versitle, for Gene Keady.  He
is not a roll player, yet is not consistently good night after night.
Those sort of players really don't have a spot on a Keady team.  Yes, we
all probably would have liked to see Darner leave, but the fact of the
matter is that he is a roll player who will do what Gene tells him to.

Travis might be a good find for a smaller division I school, ala Indiana
State, Butler, even Evansville.
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: richter@mcc.com (Charlie Richter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Billy and Nantz stunk it up!!
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:26:16 GMT
Organization: MCC, Austin, TX

> I must say the games Nantz and Packer, especially Packer called
> were poor.  The games were great, but poor Billy just totally messed
> things up.

Packer was awful during the championship game last night, too.  After
a first half in which Laettner loafed, didn't fight for rebounds, and
wouldn't run up and down the court, Packer kept telling me what "great
courage" Laettner showed by actually trying to play basketball in the
second half.  I should try that at work -- loaf for a month, then tell
my boss I'm showing "great courage" after I show up on time for a week
and try to actually accomplish something.

Packer is really awful when any ACC team, Indiana, or Arizona is involved
in the game.  He's awful in another way when UCLA, UNLV, or Michigan is
playing.  He kept babbling during the Michigan-Cincinnati game about how
Michigan was in big trouble because of the change in the Fab Five's facial
expressions.  (This was about the time Michigan started a run to take the
lead.)  I hate to admit it, but I'd rather listen to Bill Walton.
-- 
Charlie Richter   MCC   Austin, Texas
  uucp: richter@milano.uucp     arpa: richter@mcc.com
"The panic ... was not due to anything fundamentally weak in either business
   or finance.  It was confined to the market itself."   - WSJ, Oct. 31, 1929
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: SHAQ to Charlotte?
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:08:43 GMT

saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>Why are you all expecting this to happen?  [...]  In the math that I
>learned, that is only a 1/6 chance.

It's more fun to speculate about a situation that will occur with
probability 1/6, than to not speculate at all.

Now, if the Lakers fail to make the playoffs and win the 2nd pick
in draft....  but that should really be in rec.sport.basketball.pro.


--Gidi

						when does Michigan play?
From: jaykay@orion.oac.uci.edu (R. Jayakrishnan)
Subject: Horns, Trojans, Miners, Tigers, Bearcats and UM... I'm not worthy !..
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 8 Apr 92 12:36:56 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <29DF0E20.21185@orion.oac.uci.edu> jaykay@orion.oac.uci.edu (R. Jayakrishnan) writes:
>In article <29D646DE.4245@orion.oac.uci.edu> jaykay@orion.oac.uci.edu (R. Jayakrishnan) writes:
>>In article <29D48138.20749@orion.oac.uci.edu> jaykay@orion.oac.uci.edu (R. Jayakrishnan) writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>  First I was all for the Horns. They lost..
>>>  Then I was all for the Trojans. They lost..
>>>  Then I was all for the Miners. They also lost...
>>>
>>>  I need a new team to support. One that excites my imagination...
>>>
>>>  I know, I know, I still have one.  Yes, they are the Memphis State
>>>  Tigers. 
>>>
>>  Oh, Lord.. There goes Memphis State..
>>
>>  Heck, I don't know much about Cincinnati to hate them.. So I have to 
>>  just root for them from now on !
>
> Well, that was that for the Bearcats.
>
> I have to support some team..  I guess I have to pick the freshmen to
> support. At least *I* didn't see any of them dancing on some poor guy's
> chest !

   And now Duke takes care of my beloved (:-) Wolverines !

   This means... I'm not WORTHY, I'm not WORTHY....

   I am a distressed, disillusioned man now. Supported one team in each
   round, and didn't get even one of them to win a game. 

   Now, to all those Duke fans.. How much do I get paid ?   :-)

   GO  HORNS !      (Back to my first love.. for next year..)

   Jay
From: koswatta@bgsu.edu (Sunil Koswatta)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Duke (and CBS) sucks!!
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:00:03 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Bowling Green State Univ.


In article <1992Apr6.223107.2238@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> reid@venus.iucf.indiana.edu writes:
>
>Of course I'm surprised Packer can say anything with Laetnerr's
>dick in his mouth.  "Laetneer hasn't touched the ball in xx minutes",
>"Laetneer's been playing so hard he can't run back up the floor", "Let's
>see Laetneer's mom in the crowd".  What is this the all-Laetnerr network?
>I'll be watching the game just to see Webber do a flying-whiribird-
>tomahawk slam dunk on this "Beverly Hills 90210" wanna-be.


Very true.  I got so fed up hearing things such as
"coach K must use Laetnerr more."  "Did you notice that
Latner did not score in y minutes".  "Why don't they pass
the ball to Latener" etc, I used the mute button to shut the ...
off.
If it is going to be another Laitner that Latenar this nite
then I have only one thing to say to all the non-duke (b'ball)
fans.  MUTE it. yes. mute it.



Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: morgan@ms.uky.edu (Wes Morgan)
Subject: Re: National Coach of Year??
Keywords: K, Knight, UMASS!!, UK, UC, Tark, FSU, UM
Organization: The Puzzle Palace, UKentucky
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 12:53:55 GMT
X-Bytes: 

larose@cs.utk.edu (Brian LaRose) writes:
>Who are the nominees for net "National Coach of the Year"?
>
>I'd have to step forward and propose these this list to start with.
>IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER:
>
>1)  Coach K,           Duke 
>2)  The General" Robert Montgomery Knight,  IU
>6)  Steve Fisher,      Michigan.

Too much talent - Dale Brown might have even coached these teams to the
Final Four.

>3)  John Calipari      UMASS!!
>4)  Rick Pitino,       Kentucky.
>5)  Bob Huggins,       Cincinnati.
>7)  Roy Williams,      Kansas.
>8)  Pat Kennedy,       FSU.

Any of these coaches would make a fine COY.  They all took a group of
no-name players (with a few exceptions -- Mashburn of Kentucky is the
notable exception) and did a fantastic job of coaching this year.

Personally, I'd like to see either Calipari, Pitino, or Huggins win a
few COY awards.

-- 
 morgan@ms.uky.edu    |Wes Morgan, not speaking for|     ....!ukma!ukecc!morgan
 morgan@engr.uky.edu  |the University of Kentucky's|   morgan%engr.uky.edu@UKCC
 morgan@ie.pa.uky.edu |Engineering Computing Center| morgan@wuarchive.wustl.edu
        "I was going to rip your head off, but I'm past that now."
From: pistol@bank.ecn.purdue.edu (Peter C Tortorici)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: IU Gets Rematch with Congress Help?
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:58:22 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

A friend of mine came up to Purdue from Indy on Sunday, and told
me there was an article in the Indianapolis paper that a group,
I'm not sure how many, of Indiana congressmen were formally disputing
the officiating in the Duke/IU game.

What a crock of crap!

The only thing I can think of is that these guys must have bounced
a bunch of checks in D.C. and they are up for re-election. So I
guess they figure if they pull this crap people will remember them
pulling for IU rather than bouncing a few hundred checks. (grin).

Seroiously though, what's the deal with this story, and why are
they wasting time doing this?

Pete
From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: knight out at IU
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:55:24 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <1992Apr10.024415.25039@colorado.edu> burtonr@qso.Colorado.EDU (Richard Burton) writes:
>
>I thought that Pat Knight, since his father is a university employee,
>would not need a scholarship. At least that was what I remember 
>hearing o so long ago.
>
>T-Bone Burton

Quite right, oh mighty steak-like one!  You win a cookie (medium rare,
or perhaps, one of the BY Draconis variety).

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^  Dr. J(effrey Neil Burch)                 jb118@prism.gatech.edu    ^
^  Georgia Tech Research Institute                                    ^ 
^  Electro-Optics Laboratory       "UK Wildcats are great,            ^ 
^  Atlanta, Georgia                  They're the toast of the town,   ^
^  30332                            Life's always better,             ^
^  404-894-3628                      When a Wildcat's around."        ^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: You've got to hand it to Christian
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:19:27 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <1992Apr7.162616.4082@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> mrss_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Matt Ross) writes:
******Criticisms of laettner and NBA future deleted******
>And you don't need a crystal ball to see this.

I don't think Laettner will be a huge star in the NBA, but I feel he'll be
better than some of the guys he's being compared to. The one thing that I
thought showed Monday night, was how much easier it is for him at Duke to
be a star than it is for a guy like Shaq at LSU. When you play Duke the 
decision is who will guard Laettner, when you play LSU its HOW many guys
will play Shaq. 

Laettner looked absolutely confused when Michigan sagged off Lang and basically
had 2 guys guard him(instead of just doubling when he got the ball). He didn't
react well and made several bad passes. The same thing happened against IU,   
Billy "Gorbachev" Packer commented in that game that Laettner was used to 
giving it up before the double arrived, and wasn't reacting to the fact that
the double was already there. Now since about midway through his freshman
year, Shaq has been constantly doubled and constantly criticized for not
passing to his teammates to open things up. The last 2 games showed that if
Laettner is truly doubled, his production definitely drops off. Of course
his teammates are good enough to pick up the slack, whereas Shaq's supporting
cast has failed.




Russ Smith
*******************************************************************************
"If this were at all legible, you would see what I'm talking about"

                            Chevy Chase in Fletch 
******************************************************************************
From: alan@acpub.duke.edu (Alan M. Gallatin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Championship Game notes
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:56:51 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Apr7.022430.19056@icf.hrb.com> Michael J. Kelley writes:
>
>In looking at both teams, 9 out of the 10 starters will be back next year. The
                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>only non-returner being Leatner and with Parks taking over for C.L., Both teams 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>should be tough next year. 

Slight correction here...  Brian Davis started all games for Duke this season,
except for the championship game (due to his ankle sprain).

The original starters for Duke were:  Laettner, Davis, Hurley, G. Hill, T. Hill
When Hurley was injured, Grant Hill moved up to the point and Antonio Lang
came in to start.  Grant's injury took him out of the game at the exact time
Hurley return to starting.  The lineup of Laettner, Davis, Hurley, T. Hill and
Lang carried straight through the tournament, except for the final game.

Still, next year's probable starting lineup of Parks, Hurley, Hill (2) and Lang
promises to be quite strong!!  (Just as long as Parks cleans up his game!!!)

-- 
 Alan M. Gallatin <alan@acpub.duke.edu>     |  The opinions contained in this
 Duke University School of Law; Durham, NC  |  post are statements of fact.
From: navarrer@bionette.CGRB.ORST.EDU (Roy Navarre)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Laettner on Arsenio Hall
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:23:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: talon.1992Apr15.202326.410
Organization: Biological Computing Consortium, OSU, Corvallis, OR.

In article <1992Apr15.150535.21861@ms.uky.edu> fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis) writes:
>Normally, the topics to which this newsgroup sinks not only don't disturb
>me -- some of them are actually sophomorically funny. However, the 
>variations on "Christian Laettner is gay thread" are not only unfunny,
>stale and infantile, they betray a nastiness that really should be
>confined, one piously hopes, to the confessional. Gay bashing is not
>just uncool...it's as vile as racism. You may think that there's
>nothing wrong with it: Laettner is obviously heterosexual, it's just
>a little school yard taunting. But intolerance is on the rise in this
>country and I'd hope, at least, that a forum dedicated to sports and
>fun could be a little refuge from it. 
>
>If that is insufficient to stem those posts, then please recall that Laettner 
>is no longer part of the college game....take it somewhere else.
>-- 
>Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu>  
>You know, there's many a damned fool woulda swallered that.

Well the poster did use a lot of smileys and draw attention to the fact
that he used smileys.

Intolerance on the rise? Seemed to me that political correctness and 
multiculturalism are on the rise. Whats on the rise is intolerance for people
who dont speak PC.

Roy (hey wait a minute this is rec.c.b.)
From: ma@bluedevil.Eng.Sun.COM (Shing C. Ma)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Net Basketball Talent (was Re: Duke Tourney Observations)
Date: 11 Apr 92 00:34:45 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: bluedevil

In article <1992Apr10.184028.6292@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>
>This brings up an interesting question:  how good are most of you net.gods
>at playing basketball?  What types of players are you?  And come on, be
>honest - no false claims.

I cannot dribble, shoot, pass nor rebound.  I'm slow and I have a
2in verticle leap.  Other than these deficiencies, I'm a great
player -- NBA quality. :)

-shing
From: horan@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Billy and Nantz
Date: 10 Apr 92 10:52:40 GMT

In article <702752655@bronto.cs.duke.edu>, db@duke.cs.duke.edu (Dov Bulka) writes
> 
> I'm geting real tired with all you guys bithcing and whining about
> everything that moves. No sportscaster and no network is good enough 
> for you. Picking on defenseless sports announcers is a safe way
> to post something without getting flamed. Well, not anymore.
> It's not easy to talk two straight hours with commentary and
> fill the voids when a guy goes to the foul line. So they use
> a few cliches and state the obvious sometimes. Big deal.
> Overall, these announcers are very knowledgable in many sports
> and help pump excitment into the NCAA basketball.


I have to agree with you for the most part.  To sit and talk for the entire
game and say interesting things is probably very difficult, although there are
a number of people who can do it well.

I think everyone can be forgiven for making a few cliches and for saying dumb
stats etc. (but they should cut down a bit).....  BUT!


Did you watch the championship game?

I think Coach K. would have been less biased on the mike.
Please.... I like michigan, and I was sickened by the Duke loving anouncers
I believe it was Billy "Pizza Hut, Toyota, and who ever else is dumb enough to 
think my pin head will sell their product" Packer who was worst.

--on a side note....
I think Al Mguire should sit down before games and learn the players names &
numbers.

 
> Give it a rest.

O.K.

> 
> 
> -- 
> THREEPEAT

Not!

5000
Gregg Horan
From: pistol@bank.ecn.purdue.edu (Peter C Tortorici)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Billy and Nantz stunk it up!!
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:07:43 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

Here's another quote for the Packer Files from last nights game:

"Is it just me, or is Voskuil(sp?) quicker than everyone on the
floor right now?"

It's you Billy.

The best 15 seconds of the game was when CBS cut into the radio
braodcast mid-way through the first half.

Pete