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From: orson@bluemoon.rn.com (Craig Smith)
Subject: Re: SNOW WHITEI
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 15:43:56 EDT

> >Well, at least on video, Snow White has not been released, nor will
> >it be.  Ever.
> >
Don't bet the farm on that! They said the exact same thing (in the
same sentence, no less!) about Fantasia!.

Speaking of which, My God, what happened to the sound track of Fantasia?
It sounded AWFUL in that last release!  I remember seing in in the early
seventies (I think it was a pirate, as the theatre showed it every year
during Christmas) and the sound was old, but okay.  The re-recording of
with another conductor and orchestra in the late 70's was okay, but it
did not match the animation as well as the original (especially in Rite
of Spring) but that is to be expected.  But in the last release, it 
sounded like it had been mangled and over-electronicized in many places.
Anyone know what happened?

My guess is something happened to the original soundtrack recording so
they decided to re-record, and when that was panned, went back to the
original and tried to patch it back together.

Anyone else?

 This is from
     orson@bluemoon.rn.com
who doesn't have their own obnoxious signature yet
From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Re: Disneyland - Song in Snow White's Grotto
Organization: Pomona College
Distribution: na
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:15:07 PDT

In article <23637@scorn.sco.COM>, evanh@sco.COM (Evan A.C. Hunt) writes:
> 
> Anyway,  I think they changed it to make it fit, but
> my husband thinks they change it periodically.  Anyone know when/why they
> changed it and if it's been changed before?

Unless my memory is already slipping, it's been "I'm Wishing" for at
least five years now...

|  Greg Orman                               greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
|                      Live to ride, Ride to live                      |
|             Women - can't live with 'em, can't shoot 'em             |
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: sje@xylos.ma30.bull.com (Steven J. Edwards)
Subject: Re: Audio problem with _101 Dalmations_ VHS tape?
Reply-To: sje@xylos.ma30.bull.com
Organization: Bull HN, Worldwide Information Systems, Billerica, Mass., USA
Distribution: usa
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:20:09
	<1992Apr14.170218.6954@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>

In article <1992Apr14.170218.6954@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> srm1@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (steven.r.marcovici) writes:
# In article <SJE.92Apr13110205@xylos.ma30.bull.com> sje@xylos.ma30.bull.com writes:
#> 
#> 	I picked up my pre-ordered VHS copy of Disney's _101
#> Dalmations_ last week.  I got a chance yesterday to view the movie.
#> Unfortunately, there is a significant and persistent problem with the
#> audio.  It seems that a fault with the VHS Hi-Fi recording causes my
#>  [stuff deleted]
#
# I have a couple of tapes that do this. I think it's a combination of poor
# media, bad recording and oversensistive VCR (or some combination of these).
#
# I have had good success with these tapes by making minor adjustments to the
# VCR tracking. I found that I can readjust the tracking just enough to get
# the HiFi Stereo track to play OK, without affecting the video at all.

	The problem was not mistracking, nor was it the media or the
VCR.  Rather, there was some sort of defect in the audio recording
process itself for that particular cassette.  This was confirmed by
numerous tests with the tape in question and other tapes and using two
different VCRs.  I exchanged the tape with the friendly folks at the
local Disney Store where it was originally purchased.  The new tape
works perfectly.

	I noticed during the Aladdin preview that several of the
scenes from the new feature were apparently test animation sequences.
There were noticable amounts of dirt and debris present in some of the
frames.  The particles are more easily seen when using slow motion and
freeze frame.  Fortunately, the main feature _101 Dalmations_ is free
of this stuff.

 [The above opinions expressed are my own; not necessarily held by others.]
      == Steven J. Edwards           Bull HN Information Systems Inc. ==
      == (508) 294-3484              300 Concord Road         MS 820A ==
      == sje@xylos.ma30.bull.com     Billerica, MA 01821          USA ==
"That Government which Governs the Least, Governs Best." -- Thomas Jefferson


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From: bd670@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Russell I. Dyreng)
Subject: Re: Inquiry - Disneyland in mid May
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 20:35:06 GMT


>My wife and I are thinking of taking our three year old to
>Disneyland sometime between May 11 and May 14.  My wife
>is quite concerned that it will be too crowded for our little
>girl to stand in the lines to the things that would interest her
>without getting cranky and restless.

I have taken my two daughters to Disneyland on an annual basis
for the last six years.  They have always loved it!  At age 2-3
they typically needed a nap during the afternoon.  They didn't
seem to mind the lines too much as long as they kept moving.  The
line for Dumbo doesn't.  I'd recommend going there early while
the line is short.

One thing that my children liked best at that age were the
Disney characters.  The young ones sometimes are frightened at
them initially, mostly because of their size I believe.  Before
visiting the park (typically daily for 1-2 weeks ahead of time)
we would discuss with the kids how the characters are big, but
even so, they are nice and love children, and that we aren't
afraid of them.  It seemed to help a little  bit.

>And then, my wife's friends that live in Orange county said 
>that Knotts Berry Farm would be much more enjoyable for 
>our little girl (and consequently for us).  Is this true, 
>or would it be much the same as Disneyland?  (Yes, I've been 
>to both places, but from the perspective of a three year old,
>will it be much the same?)

My kids have always liked Disneyland better than Knott's 
Berry Farm.  I have too.  At that age my kids really enjoyed
Camp Snoopy at KBF, but it tends to get a bit boring for adults
since most of the attractions in that area do not allow people 
over about 4'0" tall on them.  I really like KBF, it is a lot 
of fun and has some great rides, but it doesn't have (IMHO) 
the same "aura" or magic to it that Disneyland has.

Keep in mind everybody's kids and opinions are different.

Russ
From: brianc@jekyll (Brian Colfer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Beauty and the Beast
Date: 9 Apr 92 23:24:04 GMT

gt1293c@prism.gatech.EDU (W. Scott Radeker, IV) writes:
: Beauty and the Beast WILL be released this fall on video.  I know this
: to be true.  Many more will too, after Tuesday!
: 

Set for  October... Just in time for Xmass
From: mousktr@milton.u.washington.edu (Denise Lockner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: How would you rate Disney's Movies??
 I think "lady and the tramp" and "Beauty and the Beast" tie #11
 "The Black Cauldron" gets my vote as #30.>
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:56:44 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

In article <maj1.703369832@Ra.MsState.Edu> maj1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Mark "Beren" Jamison) writes:
>OOPS I guess that should be animated movies.. So How would you rate them
>amongst each other?? Let's take a poll.. You've got 30 votes which do
>you think is the best and which do you think earns that #30 spot??
>
>I'll be happy to post the results
>
>       -Mark
>--
>______________________________________________________________________________
>                       Still looking for Luthien
>maj1@ra.msstate.edu                                  maj1@beren.b17a.ingr.com
>______________________________________________________________________________
From: bd670@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Russell I. Dyreng)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disneyland question
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:57:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr15.195706.20818
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


I believe that Disneyland opened July 17, 1955.
Disneyworld, I don't know.

Russ
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: bwong@beach.csulb.edu (Bradley Wong)
Subject: Re: Beauty and the Beast
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 19:58:06 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.142340.11553@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> nqiy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
>In article <53604@hydra.gatech.EDU>,
>gt1293c@prism.gatech.EDU (W. Scott Radeker, IV) writes: 
>> Beauty and the Beast WILL be released this fall on video.  I know this
>> to be true.  Many more will too, after Tuesday!
>> 
> Finally, some info about the video release! Does anyone have a specific date
>yet? Yes, I know it's early but I'm dying to know. The only info I can add is I
>.
>
>-Brian Soriano
>

The Los Angeles Times Business section says that the BATB release date is
October 30, 1992

Bradley Wong
bwong@beach.csulb.edu
From: mousktr@milton.u.washington.edu (Denise Lockner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: SNOW WHITEI
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:33:53 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Apr9.165541@wolf.ma30.bull.com> bevingto@wolf.ma30.bull.com () writes:
>
>It  is my understanding that, for whatever reason, the Disney will forbids
>the release/re-release of SNOW WHITE ever.


I think it can be released to the theaters, but I remember hearing
somewhere that one of Walt's deathbed wishes was that it never be
released on videocassette or something like that. (were videocassettes
even arounnd when he died???)

-Denise
********
"If you can't say something nice....don't say nothin' at all." -THUMPER
From: barry@varian.com (Barry Nesmith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Audio problem with _101 Dalmations_ VHS tape?
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:38:15 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Varian Chromotography Systems

In article <SJE.92Apr13110205@xylos.ma30.bull.com> sje@xylos.ma30.bull.com (Steven J. Edwards) writes:

>       I picked up my pre-ordered VHS copy of Disney's _101
>Dalmations_ last week.  I got a chance yesterday to view the movie.
>Unfortunately, there is a significant and persistent problem with the
>audio.  It seems that a fault with the VHS Hi-Fi recording causes my
>deck to erratically switch back and forth between standard monophonic
>and stereo.  A somewhat annoying crackle accompanies the blinking of
>the "Hi-Fi" front panel indicator as the playback circuit changes
>state repeatedly.  This problem begins with the start of the tape and
>continues to the start of the film and for several minutes (at least)
>thereafter.

Did you try adjusting the tracking? I've been able to correct this problem
on some other tapes of mine this way. There was nothing wrong with the
picture but apparently if the tracking isn't perfect the deck senses it
and defaults to the non-HiFi mode.

				Barry Nesmith
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: jmb5b@newton.acc.Virginia.EDU (John M. Bozeman)
Subject: Re: How Disney characters are remembered (Was: Little Mermaid TV Series???)
Organization: University of Virginia
Ireallyam: jmb5b
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 01:56:47 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.065944.1696@aero.org> langer@aero.org (John V. Langer) writes:
>In article <1992Mar31.133530.13878@onetouch.COM> csmith@onetouch.COM 
>(Craig Smith) wrote:
>
>>> Does it seem odd to you that many of Disney's favorite characters are
>>> remembered in a state of incompleteness?  For example:
>>> 
>>> The Little Mermaid is remembered as a mermaid instead of human.
>>> The Beast is remembered as a beast instead of a prince.
>>> Pinoccio is remembered as a puppet instead of a boy.
>>> Bambi is remembered as a fawn instead of a deer.
>>> 
>>> Anyone have a counter to this?
>
>Which generated many fine responses, a typical example being article 
><1992Apr1.213842.16674@risky.ecs.umass.edu> in which 
>rkaminsk@risky.ecs.umass.edu (Robert D. Kaminsky) writes:
>
>> This is because, metaphorically speaking, the act of the journey is more
>> important than the destination.  Hence Ariel is remembered for longing
>> to be part of a world bigger than her own and her sacrifices to obtain it,
>> Beast for finding love in his heart, Pinoccio for discovering the essence of
>> humanity, and Bambi for learning of the world and the cycle of life.
>
>But the original posting called for counter examples.  The only one I can 
>think of is Dumbo, who learns to fly only in the last few minutes of
>the film, but is always remembered as the cute little flying elephant.
>
>I'd like to see some other counter examples put forth, and then have the
>essayists revisit the topic with analyses that will no doubt be richer 
>for having considered the exceptional cases.
>
>-- 
>===============================================================================
>| langer@aerospace.aero.org  |  jvl@mickey.aero.org  |  langer@130.221.192.10 |
>===============================================================================
More counters---(well, one more-more of a question than a counter)
   Does anyone even remember what Cinderella looked like before they dolled her up in that fancy gown?  She's always remembered in the ball outfit w/the
glasss slippers and all.
Michelle Carpick
From: ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Sean Alan Squier)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Animations cels
Date: 12 Apr 92 21:53:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: bronze.1992Apr12.165329.18095
Organization: Indiana University

In article <1992Apr12.192814.6948@Princeton.EDU> jdunning@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (John A. Dunning) writes:
>
>There's also a store at MGM in WDW, near the animation tour.  It had
>a wide selection of cels, from about $400 per for newer films, to abuot
>$4000 - $6000 for a film like Pinnochio (no joke).
>
>

The best selection I've seen on display is at Suspended Animation on
Pleasure Island.  But I suppose that anywhere on property has access
to all the cels.  Suspended Animation also offers, conveniently, a
central collection of artwork otherwise spread out throughout the
other stores on property..(does that make sense?)...


Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Co.)
ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Sunday, 12 Apr 1992 20:07:03 CDT
From: Paul Neumann <U44966@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: EuroDisney ceremonies on CBS

In article <6XALYK+@ais.org>, plucky@ais.org (Chris Adamson) says:
>
>        Was switching between the EuroDisney opening and the World
>League of American Football game last night (how's that for irony?!)
>and just had a few random notes to post:

Well, by the time I saw it and scrambled to find an empty video cassette,
I had lost the first half hour  :-(  Oh well, there was plenty of neat
stuff left in the show.  I especially liked the clips of the opening of
the original DisneyLand.

>        * Did anyone else who tuned in think that Don Johnson and
>Melanie Griffith have all the warmth and personality of a salt lick?

Yup.  Don Johnson didn't really seem to have his heart in it.  Melanie
Griffith seemed a bit more enthusiastic to me.  I think they could have
picked better people to host the show.

>        * A section on EuroDisney's plans for future expansion
>included (along with Disney/MGM Studios Europe by '96), theme rides
>for "The Little Mermaid" and "Beauty and the Beast" opening in 1994.
>I do hope we Americans will be seeing similar rides in -land and
>-World by or before then.

With MGM studios doubling in size, new lands planned for EPCOT, I have
no doubt that we have many new rides and attractions planned for
Disney Land and Disney World.

>        * Just what was this bit with "opening" the park?  I mean,
>they weren't really turning on rides and stuff until Sunday morning
>(French time), right?

Don't forget that France is about 6 hours ahead of us. Let's see, that
would make it about 3am Sunday morning?  Wow, no wonder some people
mentioned that the kids were falling asleep.  Somehow, I got the
impression that the park had been open for at least one day and the
ribbon cutting was just a technicality.  After all, you had to be IN
the park in order to stand in front of the castle and watch the ribbon
be cut.

Planning my trip to France,
Paul Neumann        Full time Disney nut
                    U44966@UICVM                    Bitnet
                    U44966@UICVM.CC.UIC.EDU         Internet
From: red@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Floyd Moore)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:58:14 GMT
Subject: Re: Audio problem with _101 Dalmations_ VHS tape?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney

I have seen a similar problem with my copy of "101 Dalmations".  I
believe it could be an artifact of the copyguard system used in the
videos.  My in-laws VCR has a terrible time with the tape;  besides the
audio problem mentioned, the CopyGuard(tm) system generated some
horizontal bars in the upper left of the screen at various points in the
show.  Our VCR (mono, Mitsubishi) does not show either problem.

-----
Floyd Moore                           red@fc.hp.com
Entry Systems Operation               
Hewlett Packard Co.                   Fort Collins, Colorado	

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From: andyi@world.std.com (Andy G Ihnatko)
Subject: Re: SNOW WHITEI
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 06:34:27 GMT

bevingto@wolf.ma30.bull.com writes:


>It  is my understanding that, for whatever reason, the Disney will forbids
>the release/re-release of SNOW WHITE ever.


Actually, to help soften the local bad PR over EuroDisneyland, Disney 
re-released Snow White for the big screen in France.
From: runeba@ifi.uio.no (Rune Bakken)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Eurodisney on CBS
Date: 8 Apr 92 08:28:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: ifi.1992Apr8.082818.20913
Reply-To: runeba@ifi.uio.no
Organization: What? Me? Organized?? You must be kidding!!!
Originator: runeba@kolsaas.ifi.uio.no


In article <1992Apr7.144418.2895@risky.ecs.umass.edu>, krishnan@ganzer.ecs.umass.edu (Krishnan P Viswanath) writes:
> 
>   Just saw on Entertainment Tonight that Eurodisney's opening ceremonies
> or at least part of those will be telecast on CBS on April 11.
                                                       ^^^^^^^^
I know US is "after" Europe in time, but not this much, because 
EuroDisney will open on Sunday April 12.                           
                        
> Apparently Don Johnson, Melanie Griffith, Garth Brooks and a slew of
> others are hosting the opening function. Should be good !

They should have casted R.Reagan just for the tradition :-)


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.rune
-- 
Rune Bakken                   Dept. of Informatics, University of OSLO
email: runeba@ifi.uio.no      Don't blame me: I'm only a student!!
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: Sean Alan Squier <ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Happy Birthday EuroDisney!!!!
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 17:04:47 -0500

	It's Sunday so I can beat the rush of posts about the grand
opening of EuroDisney!!! (oh boy! :-)) Unfortunately (or maybe
fortunately :-), I only caught the last 1/2 hour of the broadcast.
I have to agree that Don Johnson and Melanie Griffith barely kept me 
interested in the show, but the images of the park were worth waiting
for.  The ribbon-cutting was really neat to see, but am I the only one
who thinks Micheal Eisner completely mangled the French language with
his opening statement?  Anyway, it was an historic moment for The Walt
Disney Company, and it was fun to be around to see it. 


Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Co.)
ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: SpectroMagic DL debut?
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 13 Apr 92 09:03:50 PDT

Does anyone know when SpectroMagic will be opening at Disneyland?  If
I recall correctly, they used to start running the Main Street Electrical
Parade on weekends in the spring, usually in April.  Are they going to
do the same with SpectroMagic?  Or are they perhaps going to wait until
May 15th to debut it along with Fantasmic?  If they also made that day
the season permier of the Fantasy in the Sky fireworks, that will be
one hell of a day to be at the park.  Anyone want to join me?  :-)

--
|  Greg Orman                               greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
|                      Live to ride, Ride to live                      |
|        A man's best friends:  a Harley, a Baretta, and a Gund        |
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology-Office of Information Technology
Date: Thursday, 9 Apr 1992 12:48:21 EDT
From: Paul Goodwin <CC100PG@GITVM1.GATECH.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Beauty & The Beast Video Release Set for October 30th
Distribution: na
 <1992Apr8.023327.1517@hobbes.kzoo.edu> <1992Apr8.165453.15797@athena.mit.edu>

I saw that Disney is releasing BatB on videocassette.  Does anyone know if
it will also be out on videodisk?

Paul Goodwin
From: wiehn@gdc.com (John Wiehn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Euro Disney
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:34:42 GMT


Is anyone going over to Euro Disney within the next few months???

Has anyone heard what the crowd numbers will be for opening day?  CBS
plans an opening special show this weekend (April 11).

Has anyone gotten any guide books on the new park?  I managed to get a
copy of the Michelin guide which is given to all Magic Kingdom booked trips.
The place looks impressive.  There appears to alot of room in park for 
expansion.  It reminds me of EPCOT with all the empty spaces in 1982.

Does anyone have a Disney Channel Guide for April?? Are there any specials
planned on the park for April/May??????


John Wiehn
EMAIL: WIEHN@EVAX.GDC.COM
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network
Date: Monday, 6 Apr 1992 20:09:56 CDT
From: <JSMITH@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: aladdin preview question

well, did any one out there catch the aladdin preview where a clip was to
be shown and a song from the film was to be sung from one of the show's
stars? cue us in.






james smith--university of north dakota
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: mit@b11.ingr.com (Timothy A. Turner)
Subject: Newsies Critique
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 14:34:45 GMT

They showed a Newsies Sneak-Preview in Tampa this past weekend.
Beauty and the Beast was thrown in for free - my fourth time.

I can't say I was wow'ed by Newsies. But that doesn't mean you
won't be. I just wasn't enthusiastic about it.

The setting and costume detail are superb. The music (afterall,
it is a musical) is just ok in my opinion.

I wish I could make you excited about seeing it. But perhaps,
this way, you will go with lowered expectations and be pleasantly
surprised. Or maybe not.

Tim
From: 92lemecha@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: BatB seasons, Is Mother nature Insane???
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:42:28 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

I've just seen Beauty and the Beast for the Nth time, and I still can't figure
something out.  If anyone can clarify, please do...

Can anyone figure out what season it is during the movie?  Or is 
Mother Nature having an ID crisis?  

At the beginning, (during "Belle") It is nice, bright, sunny, and apparently
fairly warm.  
While Moris is being lost in the forest, and entering the castle, it seems like
fall perhaps, but he just left for the fair, and should return in a few days.

When Gaston proposes to Belle, it is sunny and warm again.

When belle is enprisoned, it is snowing.

It is snowing when Belle and Beast are playing in the snow.  I know that.

But later, during the rather personal, and intimate Formal, they go out
onto the balcony, and it is a warm, stary, SNOWLESS night.  But then 
Belle looks at her father in the mirror, and he is in a snow drift.  

What is the deal???

Someone please explain, if you can.

Bogdan C. Lemecha
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