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From: IFCSS HQ <ifcss@WAM.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      IFCSS HQ NR-4008: Bill Indeed Passed the House
Reply-To: IFCSS HQ <ifcss@WAM.UMD.EDU>
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 02:12:46 GMT
Comments: To: ccnl@utarlvm1.uta.edu, china-nt@uga.cc.uga.edu

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IFCSS Headquarters News Release No. 4008       August 20, 1992
            PROTECTION BILL INDEED PASSED THE HOUSE
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Independent Federation of Chinese Students and Scholars (IFCSS)
   733 15th Street, N.W., Suite 440, Washington, D.C.20005
         Tel. (202)347-0017  Fax: (202)347-0018
                Email: ifcss@wam.umd.edu

            Protection Bill Indeed Passed the House
            =======================================

Dear IFCSS Members:

    The suspension concerning the status of the protection
bill now should come to an end. Mr. Hou Junwei has just
released the newest result of his research which confirms
that the Protection Bill (S.1216) has indeed been passed
by the House. The Bill now is waiting for the concurrence of
the Senate.

    Obviously, Mr. Hou has put a lot of time and energy
into the investigation of the situation. He has provided
valuable help to the campaign in the past. We should thank
him and wish he will continue to help us in the future.

    The protection campaign is a learning process for
all of us. We are learning the functions of democracy and
we are learning how to use our rights to protect our
interests.

    The HQ understands that the whole CSS community is
waiting for intructions from D.C. That message has been
conveyed to our people in charge of the lobby activities
and the HQ was told (on the past Monday) that a report
would be released soon.

    Thank you for your attention.

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         IFCSS Headquarters Office    Signature
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Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: mzhao@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Min Zhao)
Subject: Re: Eveready
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 01:23:19 GMT

In article <mcline.14rs@terapin.com> mcline@terapin.com (Matthew Cline) writes:
>
>        I don't know if this is the right place to post this, but I can't think
>of any better place.  I recently bought some stuff made by Eveready, and I just
>noticed a marking that said it was made in China (the product in question is a
>battery recharger).  Does anyone know if that particular prdouct was made uisng
>prison labor?  Thanks in advance.
>
>Matthew Cline
 
    When you purchase a garment made in USA, have you asked yourself if it
was made using child labor ?  When you eat fruits from California, have you
thought maybe they were picked by underpaid illegal Mexican labor ?  When 
you enter a highrise building, have you ever wondered if organized crime
had something to do with the construction of it ?  
  
    To me, there are more morally and legally wrong things than prison labor
produced goods.  I will be more sensetive to issues such as child labor,
organized crimes, etc... than prison labor.  In fact, it is my belief that
prison should be made productive instead of punitive, so a prisoner can
make his or her retribution to socity rather than taking up the resources
of socity.  If I were to set laws or rules, I would emphasize more on 
community service than jail terms.  What is better for the socity and the 
offender both, having him produce goods or service the socity needs or
lock him up in a cell, watching him, feeding him and destroying him ? 
My choice is the former.  
 
    Let me also ask, assuming prison labor is wrong,  what is the difference
of forced commnity service (so infrequently ordered by judges in my opioion)
in this country and forced prison labor overseas (so hypocriticly complained by
politicians and unsophisticated populace) ?     NONE !   

      
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: SHEN@JUNO.PHYSICS.WISC.EDU (Weimin Shen)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
Subject: Wang Juntao Starts Hunger Strike
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:49:00 GMT
Reply-To: Weimin Shen <SHEN@JUNO.PHYSICS.WISC.EDU>
Organization: Indiana University
Comments: To: CHINA-NT@uga.cc.uga.edu

This is an excerpt from CND-Global, 8/15, 1992.

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3. Wang Juntao Starts Hunger Strike .................................... 39
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From: A CND Reader
Source: South China Morning Post 8/13/92
By: John Kohut

Beijing -- Dissident Wang Juntao, serving a 13-year prison sentence on
charges of sedition, began a hunger strike yesterday, according to his wife,
Ms Hou Xiaotian.

Ms Hou, who visited her husband at the Yanqing prison hospital 70 kilometres
from Beijing on Tuesday, said Wang told her he planned to begin the hunger
strike yesterday unless officials from either the National People's
Congress, the Justice Ministry or the procuratorate came to hear his
complaints.

"I asked him to put it off for two weeks," she said.

"But he said, `I can't put it off. I said in March, then in May that I would
go on a hunger strike. I can't put it off any longer'."

Early this year Wang unsuccessfully tried to sue Beijing's Qincheng prison
for detaining him illegally after the 1989 massacre, and allowing him to
contract hepatitis B.

Among Wang's latest complaints is that he is not being given proper
treatment for his hepatitis, and that he has not been able to pass on
certain written material to his wife.

The prison had given him permission to hand the material to his wife last
March, but was overruled by the reform-through-labour bureau.

"Wang knows there is a process, but there must be a beginning," Ms Hou said.
"Already it's been more than half-a-year, and no one has begun."

Ms Hou said her husband was being kept alone in a room 10 to 12 square
metres in area. He is allowed about an hour outside in the hospital
courtyard each day.

Meanwhile, the trial of Wu Jiaxiang, a dissident political scientist, could
begin as early as today.

Relatives of Wu said he would be charged with making "counter-revolutionary
propaganda and incitement". Court proceedings were imminent and could begin
today, they said.
From: asuncion@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
Subject: Pol Pot, China and some Arrieres-Pensees
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:20:00 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Cambodia: The Khmer Rouge: The Arriere-Pensees of Pol Pot

 Why has the peace plan in Cambodia been nothing short of a
disaster ? To put it simply, peace plans only work if those who
signed them really mean to do something. Unfortunately for UNTAC
(UN team) and the Cambodians, when Pol Pot told his
representatives to say yes to the Paris Treaty, lasting peace was
not one of his motives. No kidding. What's more, the Un operation
, owing to its mandate as a peace-keeper only, will not be able
to do much about the fact that the Khmer Rouge are beginning the
first phase of their real agenda: absolute control over Cambodia.
 The reasons behind such a double-cross are pretty clear. Under
the terms of the Paris treaty, the Hun Sen government is to
dismantle itself which would certainly make it easier for Pol Pot
, who is lounging around in a jungle condo on the Thai border, to
simply stroll into Phnom Penh  and sit in the driver's seat. 
Supposedly, the K.R. are to be  completely disarmed by the time
that the Hun Sen government has disappeared. However, given that
the K.R. have recently stopped handing over weapons kindly supplied 
by China among others (which leaves some 187,300 fighters to be 
disarmed according to one English journal) the notion of lasting 
peace in Cambodia is ridiculous if not  a tasteless joke. 
                Now what ? This is probably
the question that confronts the head UN bureaucrat in Cambodia,
Mister Akashi. Answer: Make noises and hope for the best. That
is, the UN as usual is more or less helpless as far as
enforcement goes. Assuming that this is so, and that the K.R.
continues to carry out their real agenda, the UN might as well
start packing their bags now to avoid the line-up at the airport
which will surely follow in the coming months.
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: thuang@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Tze-yau Huang)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
Subject: Re: Maoist view of cooperative world trade--a response
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:56:18 GMT
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley

In article <77527@ut-emx.uucp> joe@astro.as.utexas.edu (Joe Wang) writes:
>Again, followups to this should go to talk.politics.whatever.
>
>Why exactly are Taiwan and S. Korea special cases in development?  The
>"Taiwan model" is being followed with roughly the same results in
>Latin America and Mainland China.  

Hello Joe, how does your summer go?

What is special is the bless from the US under the circumstances of Cold
War.  Unfortunately/Fortunately, Cold War is over now and both USSR and
USA lost on their economic front.  Both Taiwan and Korea were partially
industrialized as parts of Imperial Japan's war machine while Latin
American was satisfied with their agriculture and natural resources
output.  Most colonies in Asia and Africa were truely messed up by
Europeans.  Latin American are special too in the way that they failed
to industrialize at the same time with her North American sisters.
Maybe because they did not practice slavery or colonialism, or something
else split the Western Hemisphere into half.

Can China continuously grow on mostly export profits?  Who is going to
pay for those profits to raise GNP per capita tenfolds for the Chinese
population sixty times that many of Taiwanese?  I even have doubt on
wether we are going to destroy biosphere before all Chinese can live as
an average Taiwanese now.  US life style for all human beings might
simply be impossible for the limitation of our Earth.  It is time to
change old development theories and that will just make Taiwan and S.
Korea special cases in a special period of human history.

TY Huang
Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs
From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Re: Open container law -- intent (was Re:
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:49:03 GMT

In article 6822@linus.mitre.org, lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis) writes:
>It's not that easy.  Factory seal broken == open.  You have to put it in the
>trunk.  I don't know what they expect you to do if you're driving a station
>wagon or van.

And it's even worse than that.  Empty, dry, never-been-used beer
bottles (like the ones I buy at the homebrew supply shop) in the
passenger compartment can get you busted.

After all, they _are_ "open containers"...

---
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Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs
From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel)
Subject: Re: Home Seized/Returned in AL (was Re: Cars seized in Oakland)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 23:59:33 GMT
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting

My gues is that the civil seizure was made because some DEA agent
wanted to buy the house cheap at auction.
-- 
Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>
---
Given Civil Seizure, from the DEA's point of view, winning the War on
Drugs would be killing the Goose that lays golden eggs.

It's also hard to tell which group is up to more no-good: cops or
crooks.
From: booloo@framsparc.ocf.llnl.gov (Mark Boolootian)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: New Book on Legalization (correction)
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:31:12 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

In article <1992Aug19.184021.25408@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> rwilson@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Randy Wilson) writes:
-I just received a new book that attempts to give the best arguments
-both for and against drug legalization.  It is:
-
-	"Drug Legalization, For and Against", 
-	edited by Rod Evans and Irwin Berent,
-	with a foreword by Linus Pauling and introduction by Hugh Downs, 
-	331 pages, 1992, $12.95.
-	from Open Court Publishing, La Salle, IL, 61301
-	ISBN 0-8126-9169-5 (paperback)  (0-8126-9168-7 cloth)
-
-	Toll Free Number for Open Court:  800-435-6850
-

I just called and ordered this book.  The ISBN numbers and price are 
incorrect according to the person who took my order.  Here are the correct
numbers:

	ISBN 0-8216-9184-9	$14.95	(paper)

	ISBN 0-8126-9183-0	$32.95	(cloth)


Thanks for bringing the book to our attention.

regards,
mb
-- 
Mark Boolootian		booloo@llnl.gov		+1 510 423 1948
Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs
From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Re: Cannabis/Cannabalism
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:43:19 GMT

In article 713691879@camms1.caos.kun.nl, tmiller@camms2.caos.kun.nl (Todd M. Miller) writes:
>If you believe that marijuana should be legal in the US because it doesn't
>belong in the same class as other illicit drugs (as it now stands in the
>law) then why haven't you suggested that it be discussed in a different 
>newsgroup than these other drugs?

That's not the reason.  I believe that marijuana should be legal in the
US because the government has no business telling me what I can and
cannot put in my body, and that goes for ALL of the illicit drugs as
well.

BTW, that last post of yours was one of the most incoherent ones I've
seen in a long time.  Congratulations.

---
gak
107/H/3&4
From: tms@cs.umd.edu (Tom Swiss (not Swift, not Suiss, Swiss!))
Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs,alt.drugs
Subject: Re: AA (Was Re: Definition of an addict.)
Date: 18 Aug 92 01:57:45 GMT
Followup-To: talk.politics.drugs
Organization: The Reality Liberation Front (pixels to the people!)

al037@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dave Polewka) writes:
>
>In a previous article, pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) says:
>
>>...go ahead and repost the (12) steps.
>
>In a nutshell: 1.  Trust God.
>               2.  Clean house.
>               3.  Help others.

     Judge for yourselves.

     The Twelve Steps of Alcohlics Anonymous: (from _This is AA_, 1984)

     1.  We admitted we were powerless over alcohol - that our lives
had become unmanagable.

     2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore
us to sanity.

     3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the
care of God _as we understood Him_. [Emphasis theirs.] [This one
alone should qualify AA as a dangerous religious cult.]

     4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.

     5. Admitted to God, to ourselves and to another human being the
exact nature of our wrongs.

     6. Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of
character.

     7. Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.

     8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing
to make amends to them all.

     9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to
do so would injure them or others.

     10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong
promptly admitted it.

     11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious
contact with God, _as we understood Him_, [guess this leaves Goddess
worshipers out] praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the
power to carry that out.

     12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps,
we tried to carry out this message to alcoholics, and to practice these
principals in all our affairs.


===============================================================================
Tom Swiss/tms@flubber.cs.umd.edu| "Born to die" | Keep your laws off my brain!
     "What's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding?" - Nick Lowe 
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"Duty then is the sublimest word in the English language.  You should do your
 duty in all things.  You can never do more, you should never wish to do less."
 -- General Robert E. Lee
From: atfurman@cup.portal.com (A T Furman)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: CLINTON NEW TEXT: AIDS
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 13:46:42 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

> [collect more taxes]
>
> [impose more regulations]
>
> [hire more bureaucrats]
>
> [jack up the national debt even faster]

No mention whatever of clean needle exchange.

The Libertarian Party has been on the record from the beginning in
favor of repealing the prohibition of nonprescription clean needles.
A couple of years ago, the San Francisco Libertarian Party succeeded
in getting an initiative passed to that effect (Proposition O).

So where does Clinton stand on this issue?  Or does he stand at all,
or does he cower in fear of being labeled Soft On Drugs, thereby
missing his big chance to be Your Boot Camp President?  Is he
willing to sacrifice the lives of human beings who are, or who have
sexual contact with, IV drug users on the alter of political
expediency?


    Alan T. Furman         | VOTE LIBERTARIAN!!  Marrou/Lord in 92!!
---------------------------+----------------------------------------
  atfurman@cup.portal.sig  |   (800)682-1776 for more information
From: booloo@framsparc.ocf.llnl.gov (Mark Boolootian)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Two observations about the Republican Convention
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:59:40 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

I apologize for the lack of t.p.d. content, but I had to find somewhere to 
mention this (actually, I also sent it to rec.humor-funny, but there's no
telling what will happen to it there).

I have two observations to make about the Republican convention:

- The convention took place in the Houston Astrodome, a well-known baseball 
  stadium.  Interestingly, the podium was in left field.

- After the speech nominating George Bush, some unusual (from my perspective) 
  music was played.  That music was from Le Cage Aux Folles (Birds of a 
  Feather), a play/film about two aging gay men.

Are these subliminal messages?  Someone's idea of subtle humour? An active imagination on my part?

Go figure.
-- 
Mark Boolootian		booloo@llnl.gov		+1 510 423 1948

"I don't know that atheists should be considered citizens, nor should they be 
considered patriots.  This is one nation under God." - George Bush 8/27/88
Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs
From: silly@harry.ugcs.caltech.edu (Brad Threatt)
Subject: Dateline: Hollywood -- The heathens are slow to catch on
Summary: Hollywood and cruising
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 06:19:20 GMT

Recently, I was part of an incident that made me realize how clueless
government can be when it tries to forcibly change human behavior.  The
incident did not involve drugs, but parallels can readily be drawn.

This Saturday evening, I was with two friends in Hollywood, where we
went to a restaurant and then planned to go to a movie.  On the way
to the movie, we encountered a traffic nightmare which, even in LA, seems
a bit extreme.  In order to control the 'cruisers' on Sunset, Hollywood,
Vine, and other major streets, barricades were set up by the division
of "Parking Enforcement".  There was gridlock and chaos as some people 
sped past the barricades, while others waited in turn lanes, trying to
turn onto a barricaded street.  While cruising proves a minor nuisance for
some, this solution was far worse than the problem -- people attempting
to reach open businesses were unable to because of the barricades, and
the cruisers cruised one block away from the barricaded roads, further
aggravating the traffic problem.  This has been going on for some time, and
it seems that city government is out of touch with the impact of their
traffic policy.

--
Brad Threatt | MISSING! Single white male Jesus look-alike in blue 
             | Members Only jacket.  Answers to the name 'Dave Gillespie'.
Safe sex is  | Last seen with roller-skating couple in Pasadena.  
for wimps.   | If found, please return to the cs10 lab immediately.
Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs
From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Re: Marijuana: Don't barbecue your brain
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:30:47 GMT

In article 35H@wrs.com, gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven) writes:
>In article 18453@linus.mitre.org, lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis) writes:
>>In article <Bt6v7o.4H@wrs.com>, gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven) writes:
>>>	joint,_part_of_your_brain_actually_catches_on_
>>>	fire_and_burns,_leaving scars that impair
>>
>>Come on, Gak!  This is too ludicrous even for the PTFA.
>
>Anyway, like I said, it's good for a laugh regardless of who wrote
>it...I've sent email to the guy who sent it to me, asking if he knows
>the source.  He says he has one on the subject of acid, also...

OK, OK...it's a spoof.  It's a good one, though...the best ones are
always the ones that are closest to the truth!

have fun
gak			Der Herr Buergermeister gibt bekannt, dass ab
gak@wrs.com		Donnerstag Bier gebraut wird und deshalb ab
attmail!gakhaus!gak	Mittwoch micht mehr in den Bach geschissen
107/H/3&4		werden darf.

Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs
From: tmiller@camms2.caos.kun.nl (Todd M. Miller)
Subject: Re: Cannabis/Cannabalism
Organization: University of Nijmegen
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:04:17 GMT

lee@muppet.bt.co.uk (Lee Sanders) writes:

>I don't wish to seem picky but where one inaccuracy lurks ...

>In article 713793006@camms1.caos.kun.nl, tmiller@camms2.caos.kun.nl (Todd M. Miller) writes:
>[stuff deleted]
>>"Early Diffusion and Folk Uses of Hemp" by Sula Benet contained
>>in the book Cannabis and Culture; Rubin, Vera ed., Aldine, Chicago, 1975
>>ISBN 90-279-7669-4 (Mouton publishers).  
>[more stuff deleted]
>>	Herodotus, in the fifth century B.C., observed that the Scythians 
>>	used the plant to purge themselves after funerals by throwing hemp 
>>	seeds on heated stones to create a thick vapor, inhaling the smoke 
>>	and becoming intoxicated.  "The Scythians howl with joy for the 
>>	vapour bath" (Herodutos,IV:142).  To the western world, Herodotus' 
>>	account is the earliest source of knowledge of the ritual use of 
>>	cannabis".

>No, I'm sorry but hemp/cannabis seeds contain NONE of the active ingredients
>THC,CBD,CBN. I can assure you that many an attempt has been made to get high
>by using seeds and it absolutely, definitely does nothing.

"becoming intoxicated" and "Howl for joy" at a funeral?  And you still 
don't believe it?  You expect one ancient historian to record every detail 
of use when they were just learning how to write?  O.K., so we go father back.
6000 years ago the Chinese listed cannabis as one the five magor "grains" 
(the seeds).  The Pen-ts'ao Ching, generally attributed to Emperor Shen-nung of 
about 2000 B.C., was compiled in the 1st and 2nd centuries A.D..  "It states 
that "ma-fen (the fruits of hemp)... if taken in excess will produce 
hallucinations (literally "seeing devils").  If taken over a long term, 
it makes one communicate with spirits and lightens one's body."  

Now if they knew that in 2000 B.C. then how careful do you think they were
to remove the buds from the seeds before they heated them?  Could it be
that we only find the seeds in these once heated rocks because the fruiting
bodies have burned off?  And what happens when you burn/heat marijuana seeds?
They explode, right?  So how come we still find them in archeological sites?
And where did this vapor come from, because heating seeds hardly produces
any significant vapors and destroys the seeds?   And you yourself said they
would not get intoxicated from seeds, how do you explain the intoxication?


							Yours,

							Todd M. Miller

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