HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,alt.religion.kibology
Subject: Re: Big Bird
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 06:45:04 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <By03Ms.5B0@world.std.com>

Subject: Big Bird. Part 2.
  As I was saying before my psychic advisor suggested that I not go looking 
for this thing alone or at dark. I counldn't  get anyone who would go with 
me so I struck out by myself. 
  This place turned out to be up a certain canyon on Mission Peak near 
Fremont, Calif. It turned out to be that this nest was made out of a large 
tree that had been knocked down and then something had trampled down the 
large branches of the tree and had placed smaller pieces of branches on top 
of that. It finally looked like a nest. Around this nest were a bunch of 
bones as if something had been eating things and then throwing the bones out 
of the nest. Some of the bones were cattle and then there were also bones of 
living creatures that were smaller. It was not apparent whether they were 
dog bones or something young about our size.  It was getting dark so I left.
End Part 2.
John Winston.
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,alt.religion.kibology
From: boesch@cs.washington.edu (Eric Boesch)
Subject: Re: Big Bird
Organization: professional xenobiologist, PhD, U. of Southeast Idaho, 1974
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 16:34:03 GMT

John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>Subject: Big Bird. Part 2.
>  As I was saying before my psychic advisor suggested that I not go looking 
>for this thing alone or at dark. I counldn't  get anyone who would go with 
>me so I struck out by myself.
[...] 
>It was getting dark so I left.

I didn't always live in the city, you know, and I've seen this all
before.  Back in the summer of 1957, it was.  A new family had moved
into town.  They had two small children, a boy and a girl.  The mother
was a school nurse and the father was a wildlife photographer.

The father went exploring and found what he first thought was a burial
ground.  The old-timers told him to stay away, but he wouldn't do it.
That man was my father --

Oh, sorry, I was getting carried away.

Hi, I'm Eric.  I'll be replacing you as the main character after you
are eaten.

Your psychic advisor doesn't stand a chance either.  Psychic advisors
are new-fangled, and this thing is ... old.  You'd better get that sex
scene over with quick; you don't have much time.  In case you don't
remember, your psychic advisor is a stunning female, 28, with long
brown hair, and you are going to make Seventies Luv with her.

Keep up the good work, and remember to narrate your dying breath,
Eric "I have spent my whole life learning how this monster thinks" Boesch
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
From: grante@aquarius.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: July 4, 1992 - Global Spiritual Independence Day
Reply-To: grante@aquarius.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards)
Organization: Rosemount, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:52:21 GMT

gpalo@digi.lonestar.org (Gerry Palo) writes:

: Scientific skepticism about astrology has never been based on solid 
: scientific investigation.  It only is based on  a revulsion against the 
: essentially non-scientific methodology of astrology and the often crude 
: application of it in a superstitious way.

Sorry, there have been plenty of double-blind tests whose protocols were
approved by astrologers in advance.  The results were ALL negative.

--
Grant Edwards                                 |Yow!  this must be what it's
Rosemount Inc.                                |like to be a COLLEGE
                                              |GRADUATE!!
grante@aquarius.rosemount.com                 |
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From: ath@linkoping.trab.se (Anders Thulin)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: Dolphin-Aliens?
Date: 22 Nov 92 08:05:33 GMT
Organization: Telia Research AB, Teknikringen 2B, S-583 30 Linkoping, Sweden

In article <stone.722110468@cwis> stone@cwis.unomaha.edu (Travis Stone) writes:
>John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:

>>Even now, friendly dolphins are being 
>>used to help heal mentally handicapped children. I have found these less 
>>fortunate kids relate more to the friendly dolphins than humans.
>
>Really?  Interesting.  When did he do this research?  Where?
>Whom did he do it with?  Where did he publish his  findings?

Research on treating autistic children along these lines is done at
Florida State University, unless my memory serves me wrong.

I've seen the names of two therapists, but I can't quite recall them.
One is a pychologist (Nathansson?), the other a professor (Betty
S...?)

This is off the top of my head - the article I read this in is at
home.  If someone's interested, drop me a line, and I'll try to find
more specific info.

-- 
Anders Thulin       ath@linkoping.trab.se 	013-23 55 32
Telia Research AB, Teknikringen 2B, S-583 30 Linkoping, Sweden
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From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: Past Life regression - the proof (was GSI Day)
Date: 19 Nov 1992 03:26:09 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <mark.722078548@uk96sup>, mark@uk96sup.uk.haus.com (Mark Aggar) writes:
=The only way, at this moment that you are going to prove for _yourself_ 
=whether or not the "past life experience" is a reality, is to go and have 
=yourself hypnotically regressed into a previous incarnation.
=
=With everything that I have read on this subject, each subject who has
=undertaken this regression *knows* that the images they are seeing or
=remembering are _NOT_ produced due to a vivid imagination - they are
=memories.

Yup.  That's a characteristic of hypnotically-induced memories.  They look and
feel just like REAL memories.  The subject is usually incapable of
distinguishing the hypnotically-induced memories from memories of actual
events.  That's why courts these days won't allow testimony that involves
memories that were elicited by hypnosis.

=With this in mind, I am going to get myself regressed shortly and I will 
=give you an honest account of what happened (barring all the gory and
=personal details).

And that personal account won't be worth the electricity it costs to send it
out over the net.

=So go on, you skeptics, If you don't believe a word of what is being written,
=either butt out or go and do some personal research!

Why must we do personal research when REAL research has proven that "real"
memories of things that never happened can be produced via hypnosis?

=>I'll leave the ad hominem out this time, but you've opened
=>holes so big one could route an interstate through them.
=
=..but to construct an interstate, you normally have to do some surveying
=of the land first.

Yeah, but you're about to sink some pylons in some quicksand.
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Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
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From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: Past Life regression - the proof (was GSI Day)
Date: 20 Nov 1992 19:02:22 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Nov20.012854.16274@unislc.uucp>, erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp) writes:
=Scott C DeLancey (delancey@darkwing.uoregon.edu) wrote:
=
=: their minds can do to them while they aren't looking.  Your memories--even
=: ordinary memories of everday pedestrian reailty--are
=: not factual records of objective truth, however much they may feel like
=: it.
=
=Unless backed up by a sizeable body of evidence.  If I say that I have been
=to location X, and seen Y, and ten people also go to location X and agree
=that they see Y, I'd think that's pretty convincing evidence that what we
=have here is a factual record.

Suppose you're then presented with evidence that you, personally have never
been to location X?  But you've still got the memory?e
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Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
From: kish@kish.rutgers.edu (Kish)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: absolutes
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:08:26 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Swain Martin Thomas:
> However, I must disagree, on point, not principle. John, consider the
> word "universe". Are you up on your latin at all?  Loosley translated,
> I think universe means, like one-word.  Now is that absolute or what?

Have you ever tried to precisely define the notion of "word", even in
the sense of ordinary everyday speech ?  I don't think it can really
be done.  You can have provisional definitions that work well in
particular contexts, but that's all.

-Bill
-- 

PHONE: (908) 932-5026
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INTERNET: kish@jove.rutgers.edu
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Tea.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 06:33:32 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Dear Deep Thinkers: How about all of you people coming over to my
house 100,000 years from now. We'll laugh about all of this and 
drink some bubble up and eat some rainbow stew?
John Winston.
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: July 4, 1992 - Global Spiritual Independence Day
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 17:30:36 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Dear Folks: I have been reading all the comments of all people concerned
and you people better watch out because I just may take you off my 
christmas present list.
John Winston
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Dolphin-Aliens?
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 18:21:36 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Subject: Dolphins.
   There is a name that strikes hatred in some of the people who read this Net 
and hear a certain person's name. They really fly apart and raved for a long 
time.  Thit name is Uri Geller.  The only thing that will calm them down is 
to tell about some of the exploits of The Amazing Randy.
  Now at the cost of maybe starting a rior, I'm going to mention a few things 
that Uri Geller has to say about Dolphins, so here goes; Uri claims Flipper 
is really an alien from outer space and is here to share the secrets of his 
own highly advanced extraterrestrial civilization with humanity (Well I 
don't know about that. I've never seen a Dolphin driving a flying saucer, 
have you?)
  Uri claims he once worked with the U.S. Navy in a hush-hush experiment to 
turn dolphins into living torpedoes. 
  Their brains are much bigger than the human brain, and they can communicate 
with each other even when they're thousands of miles apart .  They can smile 
and make facial expression to each other. 
 It is well-known that dolphins want to communicate with man-experiments have 
already proved that. 
  Once they learn to share their secrets with humanity, we'll understand the 
miracles Geller says they can perform. Even now, friendly dolphins are being 
used to help heal mentally handicapped children. I have found these less 
fortunate kids relate more to the friendly dolphins than humans. 
 Dolphins, swim with mentally handicapped youngsters in pools under the 
supervision of doctors.  Amazingly, after each session, the kids show marked 
improvement-and researchers are convinced the children are being healed by 
sound waves transmitted by the gentle, caring mammals.  
 Their highly developed sensors can instantly detect even the most minor 
physical disorder.  When a dolphin looks at a person underwater, it 
automatically gives him a complete scan-better than a hospital ultra-scan 
examination, believe me.  It's like an X-ray with souund waves,
 Instead of trying  to unlock the incredible scientific and medical knowledge 
stored in dolphins' brains, scientists are spending more time training them 
to kill than they are doing research into how dolphins can be used to help 
mankind.  
  I once went to a secret training institute where dolphins were being geared 
to carry deadly weapons. 
 Scientists there even nicknamed them Kamikaze Dolphins because of their 
ability to aim themselves at ships, then there would be no trace of them 
after the explosion.  
 The gentle creatures are being used as aquatic midwives to swim with mothers 
during childbirth and help relax them.
  This is me (John Winston) talking now. That would be all well and good but 
some people wouldn't believe anything Uri Geller says.
John Winston.
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From: mark@uk96sup.uk.haus.com (Mark Aggar)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Past Life regression - the proof (was GSI Day)
Date: 18 Nov 92 09:22:28 GMT
Organization: Harris Adacom Corporation.

In <BxK8r5.6MG@acsu.buffalo.edu> v462etnn@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (David L Anderson) writes:

>In article <69301@cup.portal.com>, John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes...
>>Subject: Where We Came From. 
>>  I have found out what I have been it more than 14 lifetimes. One was as an 
>>American Indian and one was on the planet Venus.
>>John Winston

>You offer so many points to refute.  I'll start with this one:
>do you have anything other than anecdotal (ie. empirical)
>evidence to indicate that you've lived past lives?  Are you
>aware of studies done by scientists into past lives and the
>lack of empirical evidence to support this kooky hypothesis?

The only way, at this moment that you are going to prove for _yourself_ 
whether or not the "past life experience" is a reality, is to go and have 
yourself hypnotically regressed into a previous incarnation.

With everything that I have read on this subject, each subject who has
undertaken this regression *knows* that the images they are seeing or
remembering are _NOT_ produced due to a vivid imagination - they are
memories.

With this in mind, I am going to get myself regressed shortly and I will 
give you an honest account of what happened (barring all the gory and
personal details).

So go on, you skeptics, If you don't believe a word of what is being written,
either butt out or go and do some personal research!

>I'll leave the ad hominem out this time, but you've opened
>holes so big one could route an interstate through them.

..but to construct an interstate, you normally have to do some surveying
of the land first.

Mark Aggar

>David Anderson
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From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: Dolphin-Aliens?
Date: 18 Nov 1992 20:06:57 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <stone.722110468@cwis>, stone@cwis.unomaha.edu (Travis Stone) writes:
>John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>>Even now, friendly dolphins are being 
>>used to help heal mentally handicapped children. I have found these less 
>>fortunate kids relate more to the friendly dolphins than humans.
>
>Really?  Interesting.  When did he do this research?  Where?
>Whom did he do it with?  Where did he publish his  findings?

Isn't it obvious?  John_-_Winston was the subject of the research.  Too bad it
didn't pan out.
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Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,alt.religion.kibology
Subject: Re: Bigfootf spaceman?
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 17:47:47 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Dear Serious Question Askers: I have not been hit upon by the large bird
in question. In regards to whether I now anyhone but the unusual the 
answer is "Yes my wife". 
John Winston.
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Cayce's Pyramid
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 21:50:55 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Subject: Cayce's Pyramid.
  In the last month I have read a book called Discovering The Lost Pyramid by 
G. Cope Schellhorn. I don't recommend the book very highly but if you are a 
person who is already interested in the Edgar Cayce material then I think it 
would be of interest to you.  It tells of a person's search for a small 
place that was made underground very near the Great Pyramid of Egypt that 
has a lot of records that contain information about Atlantis and a little 
bit about Lemuria. It gives the exact  location of this material. I bought 
the book in the East West Book Store in Palo Alto, Calif.
John Winston.
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: UFOs and Newage
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 07:29:01 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Subject: Wolf 359.
  In checking out the other planets and the people you will find that most of 
them are ahead of us in their developement. The people from Venus are 5,000 
years ahead of us and in the 4th dimension.  They are ahead of us because we 
wipe ourselves  out every so often and start over again.
  There is one planet behind us and I'll now tell you what the space people 
have to say about it. 
  Now, as we rise slowly above this planet's circle and again gaze out into 
the depths of utter darkness, we shall pick another place of interest. your 
music proclaims a somewhat  martial air, so let us take a look at those who 
enjoy themselves in the practice of military tactics.  Does this sound 
strange, my brothers and sisters? Well, knowing of evolution, it should not 
be so.  We approach now one known to your astronomers as a little planet, 
and a very dim one.  We shall go now to one known as Wolf 359 and here we 
find the pagentry and color, the way of life prevalent upon your planet 
during what you called your Middle Ages.  For here, my brothers, we find a 
planet whose scale of evolution is no higher than this. One, who is actually 
behind you (behind the earth in evolution).
  We look down from our heights carefully so we won't attract their attention, 
and we look as we surround our craft with a heavy fog to simulate their 
cloud formations.  We see castles and indeed, an evolution similar to that 
which transpired upon your planet in early days. Gallants mounted upon 
horses carrying their lances and going forth to meet perhaps, a dragon.  A 
feudalistic world--one knowing naught but the power of might.  Indeed, one 
which has yet much to learn. Yet, my brothers and sisters, how can we from 
loftier heights not look upon this budding one and realize, that all who 
have evolved have experieced similar moments?  MAN's striving attempts again 
to ever reach upwards and outwards towards that goal which he knows exists 
in infinity. 
Source of Information, Star Wards by Richard Miller, page 55.
John Winston.
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: July 4, 1992 - Global Spiritual Independence Day
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 18:54:53 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Subject: 1800s Encounter:
 One time I was calling into the telephone talk show called The Herb Jepko 
Show and I told Herb that I was going to play a little trick on him so he 
said, "Go ahead, be my guest". 
   I told him the following story; Once upon a time a person saw a light come 
down out of the sky and some people got out of a vehicle and come over and 
talked to him. What Herb, do you think that was. Herb answered that it 
sounded like  any another story of a peson coming in contact with the beings 
from a UFO. I then told him the rest of the story and that is the beings had 
shining apparel and showed him some golden tables that had writing on them. 
Herb then said, "Oh but that was the angels of the Lord coming down and 
dealing with Joseph Smith".  I then agreed with him and referred him to a 
small book by Joseph Smith that told of his experience. I've forgotten the 
name of the book but it had a name like Pearl of Great Price or Golden 
Jewels. Maybe some of you can remind me what the name of the book is. Herb 
Jepko's Show was broadcast from Salt Lake City. Utah.
John Winston.
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,alt.religion.kibology
Subject: Re: Big Bird
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 08:18:16 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <By03Ms.5B0@world.std.com> <70026@cup.portal.com>
  <1992Nov22.184423.1029@geovision.gvc.com>

Dear People: Can anyone enlighten me on the proper spelling of the 
word Forengi, the type of people who are shown on Star Trek the Next
Generation who are traders. For some reason or another when I hear the 
comment from the Kiboites I think of these type people.
John Winston.
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage