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From: pott@lun.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Ruediger Pott)
Subject: ftp-server for tcsh-binaries
Organization: /home/pott/.organization
Distribution: comp
Date: 18 Dec 92 12:21:47


Hi all!

First of all, I'm posting this for a friend of mine and so please excuse that
I don't know much about apollos :(

My friend is looking for the binaries of the tcsh since in the tcsh
distribution there are no config files for SysV (this is what he told
me). They are using Sr9.? and SR10.? (don't know exactly).

Can anyone tell me if I there excist a ftpsite where I can download
the binaries ???

Thanks in advance

Ruediger
From: ardavan@boris.carleton.ca (Ardavan Tajbakhsh)
Subject: Problem related to NFS?
Keywords: NFS, Process table
 
 
   We are currently running Domain/OS sr10.2.1 and NFS v2.3.  Yesterday
 
 
                                       Ardavan <Ardavan@ccs.carleton.ca>
 
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:52:51 GMT

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: barvian@email.sps.mot.com
Subject: QIC Drive DN4000 -> DN5500
Reply-To: barvian@email.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola SPS
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:47:39 GMT

I am stripping down a DN4000 that I traded in to Sun.  I moved
16MB of memory to a needy DN5500, and now I'm trying to move
the QIC tape.  The DN4000 has a special adapter cable in line
with the normal power supply cable which appears to change the
pin order.  I've tried leaving it in and taking it out on the
5500, but the 5500 still claims "no tape controller in the system".
(Yes, I did run CONFIG.)

For reference, a DN4500 with a tape drive that I also have doesn't
use the adapter cable.

What is even more strange is that the drive whirrs when I insert a 
tape, so it is in fact getting power.

Any ideas?

====== Scott Barvian ========== barvian@email.sps.mot.com =========
====== Motorola SPS =========== Tempe, AZ =========================


Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: conliffe@engin.umich.edu (Darryl C. Conliffe)
Subject: Looking for updated zoo
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 01:52:31 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

I am looking for a version of zoo beyond version 2.1 running on Apollo's.
This version seems to have a problem with timestamps.  Is there a later
version fixing this problem?  Thanks.
- Darryl
P.S. The problem is that the timestamp on the .zoo file is one hour
behind the actual creation time, and it exports files with a timestamp
improperly set (again, one hour earlier than indicated in the V listing).
-- 
___________________

 Darryl C. Conliffe  conliffe@caen.engin.umich.edu  (313) 721-6069
-------------------
From: pkn@lnic1.hprc.uh.edu (Kay Nettle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: printing
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:01:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: menudo.1gii56INNbcb
Reply-To: pkn@uh.edu
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Houston
NNTP-Posting-Host: lnic1.hprc.uh.edu
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


Hi,

I'm going to try and set up lpd on the two Apollo's we have here (a 10K and a 
3500).  They have the most unusual printcap file I've ever seen. :-)  So,
I started looking at the FAQ, but it says see the separate file "printing".
Can someone let me know where to ftp that file from.

Kay

pkn@uh.edu
From: s_rickus@trwvssi.vssi.trw.com (Stephen H. Rickus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: /etc/passwd - name not found?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 21:54:54 GMT
Organization: TRW Vehicle Safety Systems, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: trwvssi.vssi.trw.com

Hi all -

I've got a rather frustrating problem with a small handful of my
Apollo DN3500's running Domain 10.3+. Seems that any file open
calls to the /etc/passwd file return 'name not found' errors even
though the file exists and has read permissions to the world.
Comparing a node that works with one that doesn't reveals no
differences in permissions or files in the /etc and /sys/mgrs
directories. What should I be looking for?

P.S.  My co-worker just told me that after telnet to the offending
      machine, /etc/passwd can be found and read! After that there
      seems to be no problem.

Any wisdom from the net would be greatly appreciated.

Steve
From: johnb@HOBBES.MDC.COM (John Breen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: spice3e2 on hp700
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:18:09 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: McDonnell Douglas Missile Systems Company

Has anyone compiled spice3e2 on an hp700?  I recently tried it, and ran into
a few problems.  I was able to work around all but one:

    When using the X interface (ie, if DISPLAY is set) all commands require
    two carriage returns before they'll execute.

In other words, if I type "help <cr>", it sits there & stares at me; if I
type "<cr>" again, it then gives me help (but echoes two prompts).  I assume
it can be fixed with the proper combination of #defines, but I wasn't able
to hit upon it.

If anyone has any hints, I'd really appreciate it!


-- 
John A. Breen                           |  johnb@hobbes.mdc.com
McDonnell Douglas Missile Systems Co.   | "I have no personal opinions;
Tel: (314)234-4341                      |  I'm a product of my environment."
From: timg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Tim Gallivan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Need DN660 info or FAQ pointer.
Date: 18 Dec 92 23:27:23 GMT
Organization: University of Texas Center for Relativity

Hi,

Someone here is selling an Apollo DN660 ($75) and a Mentor DN600 ($100).
I am not very familiar with these machines, and I don't have alot of
time to research them. Can anyone tell me good/bad things about them,
or point me to an archive with an FAQ file.

I am primarily interested in the following:

1) What speed does the 68020 run?
2) How much memory/disk is necessary to make the system usable.
3) Is unix (and X) available (and usable -- not too slow).
4) Is (possibly used) hardware available (bigger disks, more ram) at reasonable cost.
5) Lots of PD software?

Any information is greatly appreciated. Please send email, since our
news server is very backlogged (and I won't see your message for a
week).

Thanks,

-Tim Gallivan
From: gdonl@sunrise.ssi1.com (Don Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Apollo TCP woes
Date: 17 Dec 92 00:24:18 GMT
Organization: Silicon Systems, Nevada City CA

We are experiencing some severe problems with TCP/IP under DomainOS 10.3.5
on Apollo DN5500, 425s, 425t, and 433s nodes.

Rlogin connections from a node on the token ring to HP 700 and Sun
nodes nodes on our ethernet using an Apollo as a TCP/IP router between
the networks are occasionally dropped.  It appears that the Apollo being
used as a router is sending an ICMP {NET,HOST} UNREACHABLE to to the token
ring only node, which then drops the connection.  We aren't real sure since
we don't have a way to sniff packets on the token ring.  We haven't yet
seen anything suspicious on the ethernet.  The router node shouldn't be
sending these packets, since it is directly attached to both networks.
The other node should not drop an existing connection upon the receipt of
an ICMP UNREACHABLE since this may be a transient condition.

Our ethernet currently carries packets for two IP networks.  The Apollo
nodes on both the ethernet and the token ring see broadcast packets for
the other IP network and forward them to their gateway for this network.
The directed broadcast flag (-b) on tcpd is not enabled.

The TCP/IP software occasionally seems to go semi-catatonic.  If the
node is acting is a router, it continues to broadcast routing updates,
but it can't be pinged.  It may come back to life after a while, or
the node may have to be rebooted.  This problem may only happen on the
token ring side.
-- 
Don "Truck" Lewis              Phone: +1 916 478-8284   Silicon Systems
Internet: gdonl@ssi1.com       FAX:   +1 916 478-8290   138 New Mohawk Road
UUCP: {uunet,tektronix!gvgpsa.gvg.tek.com}!ssigv!gdonl  Nevada City, CA  95959
From: rees@pisa.citi.umich.edu (Jim Rees)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Parallel port driver?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 20:40:44 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan CITI
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Jim.Rees@umich.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: pisa.citi.umich.edu

Has anyone written a gpio driver for the standard IBM pc/at type parallel
port for Domain/OS?  I know Apollo has one, but I'm interested in source.
Xref: sparky comp.sys.apollo:4163 gnu.epoch.misc:1206
From: rees@pisa.citi.umich.edu (Jim Rees)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo,gnu.epoch.misc
Subject: Re: Emacs/Epoch on 10.4
Date: 18 Dec 1992 22:10:07 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan CITI
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Jim.Rees@umich.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: pisa.citi.umich.edu

In article <1992Dec18.135541.21174@ttsi.lonestar.org>, mse@ttsi.lonestar.org (Mark Evans) writes:

      Dumping under names epoch and epoch-4.2.2
      .rwdi section needs relocation - cannot dump Emacs
  
  Could someone tell me what I am doing wrong or how to work around this
  problem?  We greatly appreciate it.

I tried to describe this in etc/APOLLO, but maybe it wasn't clear or you
didn't read it.  Try using shared X libraries.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: pp0s+@EDRC.CMU.EDU (Peter Colin Piela)
Subject: problems with dim color monitors
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:35:08 GMT

We have two DN4000 machines with 1280x1024 8-plane color displays. I am not sure whether there has been degradation over time, but both monitors seem to be very dark. By dark I mean that a dark grey (RGB 86 82 82) looks black. I would appreciate any advice from people who have experienced similar problems. Thanks. Peter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo,news.admin
From: caltrans@netcom.com (Caltrans)
Subject: HELP REQUEST: B-News installation on HP/Apollo 425t
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: bnews help
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 00:35:44 GMT

   I am building B-News 2.11 on an HP/Apollo 425t running
Domain OS 10.3.5.

   When I try to run the postnews executable, it does not
recognize any newsgroups as valid, including "general".

   When I enter "?" at the prompt:

   For a list of newsgroups, type ?
   >

   I get the following error message:

   /usr/lib/news/newsgroups: no such file or directory

   The "newsgroups" file does exist in /usr/lib/news,
and the permissions are:

-rwxrwxr-x 1	news	news	23723	Dec 11 16:00	/usr/lib/news/newsgroups
	
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: caltrans@netcom.com (Caltrans)
Subject: Help request: B-news on Domain SR 10.3.5
Keywords: bnews help
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ca
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:46:28 GMT

   I am building B-News 2.11 on an HP/Apollo 425t running
Domain OS 10.3.5.

   When I try to run the postnews executable, it does not
recognize any newsgroups as valid, including "general".
When I enter "?" at the prompt:

   For a list of newsgroups, type ?
   >

   I get the following error message:

   /usr/lib/news/newsgroups: no such file or directory

   The "newsgroups" file does exist in /usr/lib/news,
and the permissions are:

-rwxrwxr-x 1	news	news	23723	Dec 11 16:00	/usr/lib/news/newsgroups
	
   Pointers and/or suggestions would be most welcome.
From: thompson@PAN.SSEC.HONEYWELL.COM (jt -- John Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: send_alarm information
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:08:18 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Hi all

Does anybody know the calls that are used to find out _WHO_ has opened a user's
(or node's) alarm mailbox?  I have dumped the data that comes out, and there
appears to only be a few bytes of constant (hex) information, and then the
message.  I'd like to be able to grab the name/uid/UID/... of the person sending
the message too.

-- jt --
John Thompson
Senior Engineer / Sys-Admin
Honeywell, SSEC
Plymouth, MN  55441
thompson@pan.ssec.honeywell.com

Resist Continental Drift!
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From: rees@dabo.citi.umich.edu (Jim Rees)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: Emacs/Epoch on 10.4
Date: 17 Dec 1992 23:20:29 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan CITI
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Jim.Rees@umich.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: dabo.citi.umich.edu

In article <1992Dec17.170802.15149@ttsi.lonestar.org>, mse@ttsi.lonestar.org (Mark Evans) writes:

  This was discussed earlier this year.  Could someone in the know tell us 
  the recommended latest versions of GNU emacs and epoch for Apollo 
  Domain OS 10.4?

I'm not sure about emacs, but any epoch 4.1 or later should work with no
patches.  I made the necessary changes and sent them in to the source.  Most
of the changes consisted of yanking out obsolete sr9.7 support code that had
somehow survived into this decade.

  Is there a shrink-wrapped archive that has all the necessary
  patches applied?

I was going to make a binary-only release available for ftp, but the gnu
copyright forbids it.

By the way, I don't recommend running epoch on a dn330.
From: agerhardt@ttsi.lonestar.org (Alan Gerhardt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Running X Applications over serial Link?
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:35:25 GMT
Organization: Tandem Telecommunications Systems Inc. Plano, Tx.

Does anyone have a tried and true setup that will allow a user on
an PC running MS-DOS to dial in to a Domain network and run 
X applications? Specifically, I need to know what PC software you 
are using and what the corresponding piece is on the Domain side.

I have seen ads for one package called Xvision for MS Windows, but
haven't been able to find anyone who has used it. It's a little
pricey ($449/copy), so I'd love to find alternatives.

Thanks,
Alan Gerhardt
Tandem Telecom
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k,comp.sys.os9
From: lydic@ka8lvz.uucp (lydic)
Subject: Re: OS Kernel for 68K? 
Keywords: 68000 68340 os kernel
Organization: organization
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 04:58:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.135406.15996@bcrka451.bnr.ca> sandness@bnr.ca (Glen Sandness) writes:
>I'm looking at writing a simple multitasking kernel/real-time executive
>for a 68340 single-board computer.  Before I spend a month cobbling 
>together my own, is there anything in the public domain?
>
   There is a public domain pre-emptive multi-tasker for MS-DOS based
   machines called CTASK (currently version 2.2).  It should be available
   from some of the BBS's or can be purchased from the C User's Group for
   their $8.00 distribution cost.  The bulk of this stuff is written in
   C and should port fairly well.  The only assembler stuff has to do with
   I/O.  I've used it & it works well, but have not yet ported it to the
   68K family (although I have several VME cards that I'd eventaully like
   to try it on).

   -.. .

   John W. Lydic Jr              lydic@ka8lvz.cmhnet.org

   "We live beyond our means, on other peoples dreams, and that's succeeding"
   Janis Ian 'Between the lines'
   ... -.-
From: likos@clinet.fi (Johannis Likos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
Subject: Motorola Unix Workstation 2nd HD?
Date: 13 Dec 1992 01:18:47 +0200
Organization: Clinet, Espoo, Finland.
NNTP-Posting-Host: clinet.fi

Help,

who can give detailed technical description, how to install a second internal
SCSI hard disk (Quantum ProDrive 425iS) in a Motorola Unix V68 8310 workstation
with a VME147 controller?
The parameters for CDC WrenIV are useless...
...how should I proceed step-by-step?
What must be done on the hw/sw before starting sysadm diskmanagement?

Please, reply to my private email address!

likos@clinet.fi


Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
From: Sandor_Scari@st2.maus.de (Sandor Scari)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
Subject: Re: What is a MC68-705?
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 17:08:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet (Mitglied im IN e.V.)
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.14D/hb

r>Is it [68705] anywhere remotely similar to a 68000?
NO! It es very different. The 68705 is the EPROM-version of the single chip 8
bit cpu 6805.  On the other side it also very different from the Motorola 6800,
6803,6809 family of 8-bit processors.

S\'andor jetzt  @ST2!
From: craig@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Craig Dewick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
Subject: Re: Minix on 68k
Date: 13 Dec 1992 12:08:18 +1100
Organization: Kralizec Dialup Unix Sydney: +61-2-837-1183 V.42bis

knowles@FNALNL.FNAL.GOV writes:

>Does anyone know whether MINIX has been successfully
>ported to the 68k?  Better yet, has it ever been ported
>to a PROM-able version suitable for inclusion into a
>SBC such as the VME133-1?

The system I use (an Applix 1616) is based around the 68k. It runs an
operating system that's sort of Unix but not quite.

About a year or so ago someone ported Minix (version 1.3 I think, but
might have been 1.4) to the machine, although I have never personally
tried it out.

If you want to find out some more about it, write to Applix Pty Ltd at
the following address:

  Applix Pty Ltd,
  Lot 1A, Kent Street,
  Yerinbool, NSW 2575,
  Australia.

I'm sorry that I can't tell you more about it, but I don't really know!
-- 
 Craig Dewick               |        - Railway Preservation Industries -
 Send email to:             |            Supporting the Preservation
 craig@kralizec.zeta.org.au |          of Australia's Railway Heritage
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant))
Subject: Re: Minix on 68k
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 12:43:03 GMT

knowles@FNALNL.FNAL.GOV writes:

>Hello :

>Does anyone know whether MINIX has been successfully
>ported to the 68k?  Better yet, has it ever been ported
>to a PROM-able version suitable for inclusion into a
>SBC such as the VME133-1?

Mac, Aimga & Atari.

Mr.Sai-Kee WONG

>Thanks in advance.

>Rich Knowles    knowles@fnalo.fnal.gov    Fermilab
From: jornmoe@fredrik.atari.no (Joern Moe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
Subject: Busperformance of the 68030?
Date: 13 Dec 92 21:17:36 GMT
Reply-To: jornmoe@fredrik.atari.no
Organization: None
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992

The 68030 have a synchronous mode in which it does bus accesses in 2 clock
cycles. Does this mode have overcapacity? I.e.: Can it fetch instructions 
and red/write data faster from/to the bus faster than the CPU can process
them? (I know this will depend on the instructions but 'in general')?

As far as I can see from the instruction-timing tabels in the manual I think
the bus have overcapacity so that a bus designed to be zero waitstate 
(and synchronous) would cause some CPU-space's to be inserted.
Now to the main question: Is there some 'rule' or 'expirienced factor' by 
which one can reduce bandwith by, and still gain ~100% CPU performance. 
I.e. how much of the bandwith of a zero-waitstate design can be used by 
dma devices (or other processors) without loosing CPU performance? 

Anny (qualified) opinion is appriciated! 

-- 
  _______________________________________________________
 / Joern F. Moe /  All above is my own personal opinion! \
/ Oslo, Norway /  Any lack of opinion above is also mine! \
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From: rfm@frog.CRDS.COM (X)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
Subject: 68040 floating-point traps
Summary: How to resume after repairing X underflow?
Keywords: 68040 underflow
Date: 9 Dec 92 16:38:38 GMT
Organization: Charles River Data Systems

Here's another case that doesn't work as (feebly) documented:
Underflow (and overflow) of the extended format is detected late
in the course of an arithmetic operation, when the next FP instruction
is already beginning and the PC has advanced even further, to a third
FP instruction.  FSAVE gives the long ($60 -- BUSY) format with E3 set
and a variety of info about the two instructions in progress.  The target
register of the failed instruction has already been updated (contrary
to the manual), with a wrapped-around exponent.

I can turn the *flowed result (WBT) into 0 or infinity, as appropriate,
but FRESTORE doesn't continue properly.  The trap merely recurs as soon
as I try another FP instruction (such as what RTE jumps to).  Turning E3
off seems like an obvious thing to try, but then the CPU wedges.

What other mutations should I make to the saved state?  Does it vary with
mask revisions?

email to frog!rfm@eddie.mit.edu.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
From: adams@pdv2.fmr.maschinenbau.th-darmstadt.de (Adams)
Subject: Re: Minix on 68k
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 18:52:48 GMT
Organization: TH-Darmstadt

In article <1gas0cINNjmu@fnnews.fnal.gov> knowles@FNALNL.FNAL.GOV writes:

>   Does anyone know whether MINIX has been successfully
>   ported to the 68k?  Better yet, has it ever been ported
>   to a PROM-able version suitable for inclusion into a
>   SBC such as the VME133-1?

1) Minix has been ported to 68k-architectures:
	-) to Atari ST 
	-) to Amiga
	-) to Macintosh host6ed under System 6 
	(not sure, that System 7 is really supported meanwhile)

2) Currently we are patching 1.5.10 (Prentice Hall) distribution to
1.6.23. It is said by Frans Meulenbrokes some bugs have been fixed.
Indeed it appears to be a major rewrite .....

3) Perhaps Minix may be run solemnly from a ram disk....,
	but there was not yet any effort to make it promable.
	I would not expect, that it is even possible.

best adams
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
From: "Ingo Cyliax" <cyliax@jaws.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: OS Kernel for 68K? 
Keywords: 68000 68340 os kernel
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 09:01:29 -0500

In article <1992Dec16.135406.15996@bcrka451.bnr.ca> sandness@bnr.ca (Glen Sandness) writes:
>I'm looking at writing a simple multitasking kernel/real-time executive
>for a 68340 single-board computer.  Before I spend a month cobbling 
>together my own, is there anything in the public domain?
>
>Anything for an mc68xxx is fine, but because the target system will have
>no (general-purpose) MMU, something like MACH would be overkill.  Something
>about the level of OS9-68k would be dandy, but I don't need disk support
>or anything fancy beyond a task switcher and trap handler.
>
>Any suggestions?

There is always Comer's Xinu. There is a version that runs on Sun3's,
shouldn't be hard to port. I played with it a while back and it's
small and can be made rom'able.

-ingo
-- 
/* Ingo Cyliax, cyliax@cs.indiana.edu, +1 812 333 4854, +1 812 855 6984 (day) */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
From: "Ingo Cyliax" <cyliax@jaws.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Minix on 68k
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:04:23 -0500

In article <1gas0cINNjmu@fnnews.fnal.gov> knowles@FNALNL.FNAL.GOV writes:
>Hello :
>
>Does anyone know whether MINIX has been successfully
>ported to the 68k?  Better yet, has it ever been ported
>to a PROM-able version suitable for inclusion into a
>SBC such as the VME133-1?

I have ported Minix-ST to VMEbus. It runs on the following boards:
	MVME 130/131  (with 68851 support)
	MVME 320A-1
It shouldn't be hard to port to a 133, but you would loose out 
on the protected mode I have working with the MMU.

I suppose a ROM'able version could be done....How small are the
proms ? Send me some E-Mail, I have been thinking about this for
a while in preperation for a project that I'm currently working on.

-ingo
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k