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From: randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis)
Subject: Re: Radar Gun For Sale
Reply-To: randy@megatek.com
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:47:04 GMT

In article <1700@tekgen.bv.tek.com> tkpowell@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Terry Powell) writes:
|Its really hard for me to believe there are lots of cages traveling over
|100mph down any road in America, especially one that is heavily used.  Me
|thinks you are exaggerating.

  Methinks you are naive, Terry.  I used to do the Austin to Oklahoma City I-35
drive that Kent is referring to (and back) about once a month.  Kent is not
exagerating, at least not by much.  There were usually about four cars during
the trip that would fly by me when I was traveling 70 to 80.  I would say that
his estimate is not far off.  There are always a few that feel that it is
their right to sit five feet off your bumper although the lane to the left
IS empty.

  For that matter, Mr. Powell, you have obviously never driven in any of the
desert areas.  For instance, while driving up to/from Las Vegas last weekend,
the average speed in the desert was in the 80's, with at least 25% going over
90 and at least ten cars I estimate that were over 100 (two I stayed with for
a while in the more desolate areas)...

|  Sounds like you need to pay more attention
|to your mirrors or get with the program irregardless of the speed.

  Such self-righteousness...

|  And as
|far as fucking with traffic by using radar... you're no better than the
|jerks who park in the left lane. 

  I disagree...  It all depends on how he uses his radar.  I know of a number
of instances where such a device would have come in handy, myself.
  
|SLOW TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT

  And make darn sure you live by this...

Randy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy

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From: pooder@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Don Fearn)
Subject: Re: <None>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:13:32 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <1992Dec16.001524.1@cua.edu>, 43wendel@cua.edu writes:
|> 	Does anyone have any information on Dennis Kirk catalogs.  The reason
|> I ask is because I have heard different opinions as to whether they're products
|> are worth ordering.
|>        Thanks for any information
|> 				My address is 
|> 				43wendel@cua.edu
|>                                  Gregory Wendel

I've had good luck with them.  The tend to be a bit more pricey than some,
but they will meet the prices in other's magazine ads.  I also have to pay
state sales tax, but that's only a problem if you live in Minnesota.  


   Pooder  -  Rochester, MN   -  DoD #591  -  LotN (Loser of the Number) 
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From: djm@morpheus.wustl.edu (David Maconochie)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Date: 12 Dec 92 01:50:35 GMT
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
Distribution: usa
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>  I do not think you will find any state where insurance costs have
>gone *down* because a helmet law was enacted.  And we are talking about
>*legislation* here, not helmet use.  Your argument is specious.

Sorry did I miss something, did someone expect motorcycle insurance rate to
go down in states with a helmet law?

If medical insurers assessed helmetless m/c riding as a risk, then the
*medical* insurance rates sure as hell would go up.  Come to think of it, if
medical insurers assessed the risk of riding a motorcycle they would
probably charge more too.  Trouble is that I believe that it is reasonable
to have ones fellow man pay for the increased cost/risk associated with
merely riding a m/c, but not for the increased cost/risk involved in doing
so while not properly clad.  So long as a visible proportion of m/c riders
continue to exercise their right to live dangerously, the whole m/c ing
public will continue to be threatened with legislation to force them to be
responsible.

Thought of taking up rock climbing or potholing?  Both risky pursiuts.  Both
have something else in common.  Anyone doing either of these without
adequate safety gear is ostracised by the rest of the group, and heartily
pisses off the emergency crew who have to come out and pick up the remains.
-- 
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David Maconochie
From: tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi (FSE) <tcora>)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Unleaded petrol
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:28:58 GMT
Organization: Electric Armts Div, US Army ARDEC, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ

marrevola@rediris.es writes:
>My ZX-11 owners manual says that I can put unleaded petrol in my bike but,
>I've heard that it will damage valve seats in few years. Is this true?
>Here in Spain unleaded petrol is cheaper than leaded petrol (spanish unleaded
>petrol is 95 octane RON).
>Cheers...

I'd suggest that the owner's manual is correct. Certainly more correct
than heresay. I'll probably be flamed for saying this, but every
motorcycle on the market today (possibly excepting the DNEPR) has
hardened valve seats. This is specifically to avoid the problem you
describe. Don't worry.

And be glad that unleaded is cheaper than leaded. Back when we could get
leaded, the opposite was true. (Not to mention the environmental aspects
of the situation...)
-- 
 
                tom coradeschi    <+>    tcora@pica.army.mil
                            Loud Pipes Suck
From: robinson@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU (Michael Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: a few questions from a wanna-be owner.
Date: 19 Dec 1992 00:54:15 GMT
Organization: Institute of Cognitive Studies, U.C. Berkeley
Distribution: na
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In article <JET.92Dec18130804@boxer.nas.nasa.gov> jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>wilsont> 2. a good cc range to 'start out' with would be??
>wilsont> (commute/Bay area freeways)
>
>500-750cc would be my advice.  Don't worry about enough power to carry
>passengers until you learn to ride reasonably well.

Huh?

All my bikes so far have been in the 400-550 range.  They have all had
enough power to carry passengers on Bay Area freeways (in fact, I almost
lost my brother off the back of my Seca 400 when I had to accelerate
out of a traffic situation at 65mph).  You just have to downshift a lot.

Wouldn't part of learning "to ride reasonably well" include learning how
to work a power curve?

My personal opinion is that for beginners, lighter is better.  Actual
displacement should be a secondary consideration.


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From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Bike hire in the USA
Date: 19 Dec 92 16:47:54 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Dave Williams (dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us) wrote:
: 
:  I've never seen a standard US policy that applied outside the
: boundaries of the USA.  State Farm is very wishy-washy on Canada, and
: Mexico is right out.  Same with the policies from other companies I've
: had, like Geico.  (didya ever wonder why they make the print so light
: and tiny on the policy?  That's to discourage people from reading them)
: 
:  Like I said, though, this might be a local thing.  Insurance regs and
: policies seem to change every few miles.
:
I had occasion a couple of years ago to go to France and I checked with
my insurance before I went in case I rented a car.  According to the agent
I would be covered.  Also recently I talked to a BMW dealer about taking
a test ride.  He asked if I currently had a motorcycle that was insured.
I said "yes" and he said that was fine since in Virginia insurance covered
a driver when riding other peoples equipment.  As you stated, this may be
a Va. regulation issue.  I still say, it's worth a call to the agent
to find out.                                                                                                            
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger)
Subject: Re: First ride in rain almost first dropped bike, too
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:12:48 GMT

In <1992Dec11.173106.29806@znext.cts.com> erika@znext.cts.com (erik astrup) writes:



> ==============================================================================
>  Erik Astrup                   DOD #683                            AFM #422

>  1993 CBR 900RR  *  1990 CBR 600  *  1990 Concours *  1980 GL1100 Interstate

>      "This one goes to eleven" - Nigel Tufnel, lead guitar, Spinal Tap
> ==============================================================================

Erik;

  A sig. like that just pisses of the rest of us.  :-)


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From: pooder@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Don Fearn)
Subject: Re: Choke Question ?
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:08:52 GMT
Distribution: rec.motorcycles
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester
Keywords: Choke

In article <Bz3t8F.HpA@inews.Intel.COM>, rbodepud@sedona.intel.com (Ramana Bodepudi) writes:
|> 
|> Hi,
|>  I have CBR 600, and have noticed that with the bike on its side
|> stand and the choke on the RPM does not go up, but does so as
|> soon as I straighten the bike up. Why is this ??
|> 
|> Thanx
|> Ramana 

The change in RPM is from higher friction in the engine's crank end 
bearings when it's leaned.

It's generally not a good idea to let your engine idle while it's sitting
on the side stand.  Most motorcycle oil systems depend partially on the
engine being vertical* for correct distribution of the oil, especially to 
the crank end bearings.  Start your engine as you straddle the motorcycle
holding it vertical.  Turn it off if you want to leave it sitting on its
side stand.   



*When the motorcycle is leaned at speed, the force
of the turn makes it equivalent to being vertical.  



   Pooder  -  Rochester, MN   -  DoD #591  -  LotN (Loser of the Number) 
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From: djm@morpheus.wustl.edu (David Maconochie)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Date: 12 Dec 92 01:38:40 GMT
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
Distribution: usa
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bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby) writes:


>Since helmets do lessen the severity/frequency of head injuries
>and head injures are very expensive, then the price of my
>insurance (and everyone else's) is adversley affected by people's 
>lack of helmet use.

>The point (IMO) is that this increased cost is a reasonable
>price to pay for increased freedom.  

So long as it is you that pays the extra $10,000 per year to cover the
potential health risk you incur by riding without a helmet. Damned if I se
why I or anyone else should pay it for you.

So how about this idea?  In the land of the "free" (market) it should be
possible to arrange special medical insurance for those who wish to ride
without a helmet,  so it could be made illegal to ride without this special
coverage. I think that thsi could kill all the dirds with one stone.  This
in many ways resembles the extra coverage that you would (or used to) need
if you went skiing in the Alps. The insurance ran to about $200 per week,
and covered you if you broke a leg, neck, or some other vulnerable bit of
anatomy, and got you flown home on a special ambulance plane.  Actually, the
more I think about it the more I like this idea.  The US is the place where
money speaks, and if you aint got the dough, you dont get a piece of the
action.

Of course, those riding without helmets, even legally, might just get tired
of being asked to show their insurance certificate, and decide to wear a
helmet anyway. 
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David Maconochie
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: New owner of Yamaha Seca II looking for advice
Keywords: Yamaha, newbie, Seca II, clueless, help
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 01:55:46 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.102207.19520@muddcs.claremont.edu> tgroner@jarthur.claremont.edu (NecroPuke) writes:
>I have been in Russia for the last six months and while I was gone

  ***   bleating about personal problems deleted   ***

>Anybody who wishes to attack the monstrous task of decreasing my 
>ignorance will have my gratitude.
>    I hereby claim the DoD# 9689.
>
>Todd Groner, DoD# 9689, Yamaha Seca II (Scotia)     "Spoon!"  ---Tick

Pfthfthfthfth <!>

To decrease your ignorance: 
       one does not "hereby" claim DoD numbers <!!>

One has to beg, grovel, and plead to *THE* right source, and then one gets
one's own DoD number.  No other way.  Yup.  Sez so right here.

   you then ask:  [So who's *THE* right source] <?>

Ah yes, thought you would get around to that.  There's a list of DoD numbers.
There is.  Who you have to ask, is the Keeper of the List (KotL) {tm}.

There.  So now you know.  Whether you realize it or not, that does decrease
your ignorance level.  It does.

Charlie Smith   DoD #0709

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tomes@iastate.edu ()
Subject: Re: Durability
Keywords: why
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:28:15 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.150458.28795@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>'86 Renault turns 100k next spring, I'll invest $1k into drive axles,
>new brakes (still on the original disk pads and second set of shoes),
>struts and shocks, an 02 sensor, and a new interior light switch.
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Mine is an '85 Alliance and it's worth exactly what I paid for it: $1
These things like to eat timing belts, and then (almost instantaneously) munch
at least four valves before coming to a grinding halt.  Replace that belt and
the idler pulleys (both of them) before the idlers seize and cut the belt.

I did everything except head machining/valve installation myself, and it cost
over $650 before it ran.

CP "Frog Mobile Hater" Tomes
Torque?  I don need no steenkin torque!!
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tomes@iastate.edu ()
Subject: Re: Radar Gun For Sale
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:51:00 GMT

In article <1700@tekgen.bv.tek.com> tkpowell@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Terry Powell) writes:
>Its really hard for me to believe there are lots of cages traveling over
>100mph down any road in America, especially one that is heavily used.  Me
>thinks you are exaggerating.  Sounds like you need to pay more attention
>to your mirrors or get with the program irregardless of the speed.  And as
>far as fucking with traffic by using radar... you're no better than the
>jerks who park in the left lane. 

I get just as irritated at left lane hogs as you do, but I think what the
complaint was about is the speed differential between the slow drivers
(not necessarily Mr. Radar: he was probably trying to pass a slower cage
when the followin idiot crowded him) and the speeders.  I think 100 mph is
reasonable for the interstate, since the original specs on the interstate
system were written for 100mph max speed, but if the difference between the
slowest vehicles and the fastest is too great, closing speed would make
rear-end accidents more likely on roads that didn't have lots of lanes to
separate the slowest from the fastest vehicles.

When I drive on the east coast, five lanes of traffic is more than enough to
safely separate 90mph traffic from 35 mph traffic most of the time. In the
midwest where interstates usually have <4 lanes, I get nervous at on ramps
and merge areas because some bonehead is dinking around and I have nowhere
to go.  The traffic on I-80 usually stays <80 mph due to cops and the fact 
that the people in the fast lane get bottled up behind legal-minded cage
and semi drivers.

Something to think about: while speeding is not the boogeyman that will kill
you, it will reduce the time available to you to do ANYTHING.  Since reaction
time is fixed, there is a point where some nasty event will happen and you
simply will not react to it before the Big Nasty bites you and your machine.
This may be something as simple as a semi tire turd in the middle of your lane
that cages and trucks don't brake for because it's small and not in the wheel
tracks, but in yout path of travel.  At 90 mph 2 sec is 260 feet.  Do you 
folks who like to speed in traffic leave that space?  If other vehicles crowd
in ahead and reduce your following distance, this is probably a good sign that
finding a less heavily travelled road to work is a good idea.

Yes, I keep up with the flow of traffic when it is faster than the posted 
limit, mostly because I want to avoid getting rear-ended by a braindead cager.
I have never had a ticket under those circumstances, and I doubt any cop would
try to give me one.

Getting off the road and waiting for a few minutes for a gap in traffic
(there's gotta be a reference to packets somewhere in here!) usually helps,
and doesn't cost as much in time as it saves in annoyance.  It also gives
me another chance to test my 0-60 time.....

CP Tomes
Radar detectors=doughnut proximity detectors
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Keywords: car phone 
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:44:34 GMT

In article <Bz9H6D.7v9@wilber.rich.nt.com> jcombs@nrchh023.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Jim Combs) writes:
>Sign me up!  Where's the group that's yelling that car phones are dangerous
>when driving?   Most car phone users need to be slapped. B-)
>Car phone users are *too* dangerous. It's bad enough they're typically the sort
>that is braindead to everything that goes on outside of their own little worlds,
>but to add an element that is actually a hallucinogen to these people ("I'm not
>driving my car,  I'm in the Boardroom negotiating a deal.") is horrifying.  :-O
>
>Let's pass a law banning car phones.  No,  let's pass a law that bans everyone
>that's ever used a car phone while driving from ever driving again.
>NO! How's this-?--- Let's pass a law that bans everyone that has *ever* thought
>of using a car phone while driving from ever driving again.  =8-)
>
>Yea,  that's it!  Where's that group?  Sign me up already! 
>I *have* to save the world!  ;^)

 Radio's, Cd players. Cassette players, 8Tracks(Hah), Speakers yes speakers
of any kind. Seat belt buzzers, door jam buzzers. Dome lights.
For Gawd sake STOP THE CARNAGE.
 
For more information write:
Craig Shergold
I'm OK, Your stupid but I'll think for you foundation.
Multiple whoopee Utah.
                      666something something.
 
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: 43wendel@cua.edu
Subject: <None>
Organization: The Catholic University of America
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:15:24 GMT

	Does anyone have any information on Dennis Kirk catalogs.  The reason
I ask is because I have heard different opinions as to whether they're products
are worth ordering.
       Thanks for any information
				My address is 
				43wendel@cua.edu
                                 Gregory Wendel
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: Federal extortion nets helmet law!
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 03:33:45 GMT

ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed Campbell) writes:

>    If I remember right, the constitution says something about the
>congress shall establish and maintain a federal highway system.

	I just checked my on-line copy, and didn't find it.  It does
say something to the effect of regulating interstate commerce, but
I don't interpret this as allowing any federally-mandated helmet laws.

>I don't remember anything about "only in states that pass laws that
>are mandated by the congress but they have no authority to pass
>themselves." Why doesn't some "letter of the law" cop start busting
>politicians on the RICO act? You'd have to hunt a long time to find
>another organisation more into racketeering and corruption.

	Could it be that the cops swear to uphold and protect the
Constitution, just as I did in the Navy and just as politicians do
to this day?  It would be a crying shame to have to bust yourself
for participating in a RICO raid, wouldn't it?

< Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu viking@iastate.edu >
<  ISU only censors what I read, not what I say.  Don't blame them.  >
<  "This isn't an answer, it's a pagan dance around a midnight fire  >
<   written in intellectual runes." -- Rich Young                    >
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