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From: hacker@access.digex.com (Dark Hacker)
Subject: Dow movements
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 03:54:57 GMT

The Dow and the market in general has been whipsawing back and forth
quite a bit of late.  So does this in itself indicate a future trend?
What is the future of the Dow?  The Washington Post recently predicted
in their financial column that stocks would rise a bit but peak and
then fall at the end of the year in anticipation of higher interest
rates and thus a move from the stock market to the bond and interest
sensative markets.

What do you folks think is the future for stocks?  I'm sure we have
seen the last of the great rises in stock prices and perceived value.
The 80's are over and done with.  But will we see a blow-off?  The
market IS overvalued right now and it amazes me that it is still has
high as it is.  Bouyed by hopes of still higher prices I suppose but
that's a sucker's game.  Stocks in general are overvalued.

And on an unrelated note.... how about precious metals?  Might as well
start buying SOMETHING reasonably stable :-)

- Hacker
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From: scott@geta.life.uiuc.edu (MrHappy)
Subject: Re: comment about fidelity short term bonds
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 03:30:50 GMT

Close, but no cigar. Yields are not the same as interest rates.
If you believe that, I'd love to trade you some HP bonds at par
value for some EE Bonds, if you have them.

Get your facts straught before correcting someone.
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From: fqm6448
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Hot --> Claire's Stores
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:30:00 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota CIS
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Claire's Stores --> I bought it at 7.375 about 6 months ago and now
it's at around 12. I think it should still go up though (it reached
about 22 last year {no big dividends or splits since then}).


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From: rosen@aurora.cis.upenn.edu (Mark Rosen)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Overseas Investing
Date: 8 Nov 92 15:49:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I am interested in investing abroad in the stocks of companies in the
Pacific rim, South America or Europe. However, I am having trouble finding
information on investment opportunities in these areas.  Please tell me if
you are aware of sources of overseas investment information? Can
anyone recommend a good broker?  What sort of fees do brokers
usually charge?
Thank you
Mark Rosen
Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: pao@wam.umd.edu (Nikos Strifas)
Subject: Enviromental plays
Keywords: stocks,enviroment,clinton
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:47:18 GMT

Netters,
I keep on hearing (CNBC/RADIO) that enviroment related stocks will do
great under Clinton. I wasn't convinced until today:
1. AURE @1.75 from 0.625 2 days ago
2. ATCE @3.5  from 1.875 2 days ago

Anyway, does anybody has any suggestions about enviroment related stocks
that trade below $10 & the companies are financially ok.

Thanx,
Takis Vouganis     

PS: For you SUPER-SUPER speculators here's a GREAT play : NEG
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From: lott@bogner.informatik.uni-kl.de (Christopher Lott AGSE)
Subject: Re: Where can I learn more about Futures?
Organization: Universitaet Kaiserslautern FB Informatik
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 11:12:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.182545.7506@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> bmoore@sunfish.austin.ibm.com (Bryan Moore) writes:
>Where can I learn more about Futures? 

Futures on what?  Commodities (orange juice, hog bellies, and Eurodollars)?
Exchange indexes?

Actually, this sounds like a good FAQ addition.  If someone writes
this person an answer, could I please have a copy for the FAQ?

Thanks.

chris...
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Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: fod@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Frank O'Donnell)
Subject: Re: Buy Clucker's Wood Roasted Chicken
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:22:49 GMT

proberts@informix.com (Paul Roberts) writes:

>lib@cbnews.cb.att.com (Lib) writes:
>
>>Buy Clucker's Wood Roasted Chicken (based in California, an
>>IPO from earlier this year). It's cheap and it tastes great.
>
>Buy the chickens, or the stock?

Yes, those certificates usually need a little seasoning ...

Seriously, though, where is this traded?  I've never heard
of the chain either, despite having lived in California
all my life ...

Frank
frank@jplpost.jpl.nasa.gov
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From: clark@soldev.tti.com (Ralph Clark)
Subject: PCFN to MYM9
Organization: Transaction Technology, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 21:54:13 GMT

I'm trying to import stock prices into Managing Your Money, Version 9. I
sent in $5 for MYMIC, their import utility, in the hope that they had just
forgotton to mention that it would accept some kind of text file. Now I
find it's not really a price import utility, but a portfolio importer.
 
Nevertheless, there appears to be some hope to sneak some prices in. They
will import a download file from the Prodigy service, PCFN. This file is
called FINANCE.DAT, and is said to be comma delimited.
 
I figure I can take my prices (1/2 cent a day, from Telechart TC2000's 800
number), export to an ascii file, and massage them with GAWK into the
format of FINANCE.DAT. Then I can import to a hypothetical portfolio in MYM
as purchases on the current date, which will update the prices for my real
portfolios, and then, perhaps, I can delete the PCFN hypothetical
portfolio. (Then I use MYM's report-to-file to export again to my
spreadsheets, but that's another story.)
 
So, what I need from a friendly reader of this group is a description of
the comma delimited format of PCFN's FORMAT.DAT.
 
Thanks --- Ralph
Ralph Clark (clark@soldev.tti.com) {philabs|psivax|rutgers}!soldev!clark
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From: yhari@uncc.edu (Yog Hari)
Subject: Re: A RANDOM WALK DOWN WALL STREET...good book
Reply-To: yhari@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:34:03 GMT

Another good book is Peter Lynch's "One up on Wall Street".  The basic theme of this
book is invest for the long haul and that the small investor can do just as well
or better than the institutions.....

Yog Hari 	yhari@mosiac.uncc.edu		fax 704 553 8795

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From: dfuller@nyx.cs.du.edu (Desi Fuller)
Subject: Capital Gain -- can't put into another home
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 03:12:37 GMT

Here is the scenario:

My girlfriend has sold here home and receive $50K+ from this sale.
She has since moved into one of her father's homes while she studies
for her MCAT.  She does not want to put the money back into another home
because she plans to go to Med school and that will affect where she is
living, plus she would like to use this money to help pay for all of this
schooling.

Any suggestions on what she should do with this money?  Keep in mind that
she doesn't need all of it liquid right now.  She would like to pay as 
little taxes on it while she's at Med School. (ie use little slowly over
time to pay her expenses).

Ideas?  Suggestion?

- Desi

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From: davida@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (David A. Andersen)
Subject: Re: ~~~~~~~ LIST OF NO-LOAD MUTUALS (Phone No.) ~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Reply-To: davida@ics.uci.edu (David A. Andersen)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:39:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.185413.20257@fcom.cc.utah.edu> jli@bingham.utah.edu (Jianliang Li) writes:
>
>	I am trying to find the phone numbers of some no-load mutual fund
>companies.  Does anybody have a list of all the no-load mutual fund companies
>(phone numbers)?  I would appreciate if you could post it or send a copy to
>me?  Thanks in advance.
>

Also, try the Schwab line to see the 80+ that they offer....


David
From: mark.stevens@spacebbs.com (Mark Stevens)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: 401(k) Rollover Advic
Date: 9 Nov 92 07:32:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: spacebbs.11328.951.uupcb
Reply-To: mark.stevens@spacebbs.com (Mark Stevens)
Distribution: world
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193


To: ables@hal.com (King Ables)

> This is wrong.  You can get the check cut with no withholding if you put on the
> form you fill out that you intend to roll it over into another account or another

KA>Well, I've been told that there is a new law taking effective on Jan. 1
KA>where they automatically withhold if you take the check by hand... I *hate*
KA>it when they try to protect us from ourselves.

'They' are not trying to protect us from ourselves.  This is the way
the government is paying for the extention of unemployment benefits.

It really ticks me off when the congress passes a law to cover some
other benefit that they create.  They tried to do the same thing on
helping the LA riot victims.  There really needs to be a line item
veto to correct these type of situations.

On the good side of this particular law is that in addition to the
manditory withholding they are also mandating that former employers
must also deposit directly into a rollover account in addition to
the capability of paying the former employee directly.  At least
somebody was thinking when they invented this cockey change.
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From: bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: Boycott Colorado
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:58:20 GMT
Followup-To: talk.politics.misc
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Nov5.204645.17596@newsgate.sps.mot.com> craigp@dolphin.sps.mot.com (Craig Petty) writes:
>Colorado has become the first to constitutionalize discrimination.  If you
>care about civil rights, please consider boycotting Colorado in all aspects
>(business, travel, etc).

Why stop at homosexuality?  Why not give special civil rights protection
to bestiality, necrophilia, exhibitionists, etc?  Or nose pickers,
cherry pickers, slobs, left-handed people, etc.

Or maybe you like the idea that churches should have to hire
homosexuals, even if this is strongly against their beliefs.
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Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: billd@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM (Bill D'Camp)
Subject: Re: 401(k) Rollover Advice
Organization: Grumman Corporation
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:18:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.153558.24796@hal.com> ables@hal.com (King Ables) writes:
>   From article <prspool.720888204@terra>, by prspool@siemens.com. (Peter Spool):
>   >
>   > The MOST IMPORTANT thing to do, is to arrange a DIRECT TRANSFER of your 401(k)
>   > funds from your previous employer, to your new employer, or to your IRA account.
>
>   It's not that critical, I've accepted checks from two accounts and rolled them
>   over.  You have 60 days to do this with NO penalty.  You lose interest for 
>   each day you *don't* do it, so if you can do a direct transfer, you keep your
>   money working the whole time, but that is the only real advantage.

According to the statement which I received last week from my
company's 401K plan they are now required to withhold at a 20% rate
all pre-retirement distributions which are not transferred directly to
another eligible  type of account (401K, IRA).  I think the importance
of arranging the DIRECT TRANSFER is at the top of the list, unless of
course you're just planning to spend the money.
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From: choo@cs.yale.edu (Young-il Choo)
Subject: Any opinions on Borland?
Organization: Yale Univ Computics
Distribution: misc
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:52:06 GMT

Any opinions on how well Borland will do in the next year or two?  

Their stock at 31 seems to be close to their recent low of 26 and far below
their high of 86 not too long ago.  Any ideas on why the dramatic drop?  Is
it just the economy or the influence of Microsoft?

How are they doing with Paradox, dBase IV and Quatro Pro?  Will their sort-of
alliance with WordPerfect ward off the domaination by the MS and Lotus?

-- Young-il
Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: jain@goliath.Stanford.EDU (The One and Only)
Subject: Low-cost IRA account with a discount brokerage firm
Summary: Seek info about accounts with low set-up and maintenance fees
Keywords: IRA, Stocks, Fee
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 22:56:10 GMT


I am looking for a discount brokerage firm that offers a low-cost
IRA (i.e., low initial set-up as well as annual maintenance fees).
Pacific Brokerage Services sent me their fee structure, but I
was wondering if I can do any better.  Because of the significant
trading I may do, commissions are also important.

Please reply by e-mail and I will summarize.


Deepak Jain
jain@goliath.stanford.edu
From: hajadi@goofy.csd.sgi.com (Ivan M. Hajadi)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: To the dude who inquired about Novell
Date: 14 Nov 92 01:33:42 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <BxoDvy.MFG@cs.uiuc.edu>, watanabe@cs.uiuc.edu (Larry Watanabe) writes:
|> ssr@siberia.cypress.com (Bapcha/FPGA) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> >Hey - Novell has 290 Million (YES I checked with my broker today on that)
|> >outstanding shares at $32 each - a market valuation in excess of
|> >NINE BILLION DOLLARS for a company with revenues in the 800-900 Million
|> >dollar range.....
|> 
|> >Looks like a classic "BORLAND" to me !  Anyone out there bearish on 
|> >Novell ?
|> 
|> >-- 
|> >Bapcha - A very bad boy from Cypress Semiconductor
|> >3901 N.  First Strasse
|> >San Jose,  CA 95134, 408-943-2719
|> 
|> According to these figures, Novell has a  P/E of
|> 
|> 	290 mill * $32
|> 	--------------  = 10.9
|> 	850 mill

can you explain to me how you arrive at this formula?
i thought P/E  is Price/(4 Quarter Earnings).



|> 
|> -Larry Watanabe

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From: smm1@troy.uucp (22142-michelson)
Subject: Re: The death of the Video Store?
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 14:56:26 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.234828.7595@venice.sedd.trw.com> tjio@venice.sedd.trw.com (Lee Tjio) writes:
>
>The initial investment of running fiber optic cables, providing fiber
>optics transceivers to the homes, and replacing the existing twisted
>pair/coaxial and other associated communication equipment is tremendous.
>I personally don't expect to see this happening this decade.  When or
>if they finally provide this service, can they compete with video rental
>stores, i.e. $0.99-$3.99 per movie?  We will have to wait and see ...
>
>Lee 

Technology has been developed (by my company, but not by me :-( ) that
allows a video channel to be delivered to a home via the copper wiring
that is already there. They don't have to have fiber optics all the way
to the home.



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From: m_ander@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Anderson)
Subject: Maytag
Reply-To: m_ander@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Anderson)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 19:41:04 GMT

My broker recently suggested that I but Maytag stock.  
How's the net feel about Maytag?  Personally, I come from the
school of thought that says if he really knew what he was talking
about, he would be retired by now.

-Mike

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From: rangwal@wk56.nas.nasa.gov (Akil A. Rangwalla)
Subject: Strategic metals
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, California
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 18:53:55 GMT

  Anybody heard of Eurocan?  Apparently, they
trade in strategic metals.  Recently a broker
from Eurocan (based in Toronto) called me and
suggested that I trade in Indium.

Any suggestions? Advice? etc...

Thanks.

Akil A. Rangwalla
From: cain@geomag.gly.fsu.edu (Joe Cain)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Oil stock predictions?
Date: 1 Nov 92 10:39:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Florida State University

Am in the process of moving my small (ca $10K) IRA from the clutches of
Merrill Lynch, who have managed over nearly any span of time during
the past decade to turn in a performance under 1% per year, to some
mutual fund like Vanguard Star (other better suggestions are welcome). 

Any comments on the post election future of stocks when Clinton/Gore
get in? I have one specific big loser, Wichita River Oil, but then the
usual things like Wal Mart, GLaxo, Waste Management and Storage Tech
(the last yet after I didn't realize how high it was last spring since
I don't follow the market. An example of how well they look after my
interests) . 

Since any broad mutual fund will likely reflect the market and a
switch will not statistically hurt, I am mainly looking for whether
there is a chance that such oil stocks might have some chance of going
Joseph Cain		cain@geomag.gly.fsu.edu
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From: gene@lgc.com (Gene Lege')
Subject: Re: Offset 401(k) Rollover Withholding
Organization: Landmark Graphics Corporation  Houston, Texas
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 02:12:55 GMT

In article <1dect6INNsic@CASPER.NA.CS.YALE.EDU> chang-mark-yan-ming@cs.yale.edu (Mark Yan-Ming Chang) writes:
>
>When they withhold some of the 401(k) money before giving you the check, can't
>you just decrease your income tax withholding to offset it?

Yes, but you still need to have the extra funds to cover the 20% within
60 days to roll it and avoid the tax + penality on the withholding.

--
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From: loganj@yvax.byu.edu
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Discount broker that deals with options?
Date: 5 Nov 92 12:14:10 -0700
Organization: Brigham Young University

Anyone know of a good discount broker that deals with options?

Thanks and Regards,
Jim Logan
loganj@yvax.byu.edu
From: martinka@aspen.NSA.HP.COM (Joe Martinka)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:01:26 GMT
Subject: Re: The death of the Video Store?
Organization: HP Networked Systems Architecture - Cupertino, CA
Newsgroups: misc.invest

For those so willing to bet on the demise of video stores, might
I remind them of the drumbeat in the late 70's that the advent
of movies on VCR and the nascent rise of video stores were the
death knoll of the cinema movie houses.  Their demise was
grossly exaggerated (or very prolonged).  I am not at all convinced
that video stores nor the theatres are an endangered species.

Joe Martinka
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From: Scott.Johnson@FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM ( Scott Johnson)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: Boycott Colorado
Date: 11 Nov 92 11:05:31 GMT
Organization: NCR Microelectronics, Ft. Collins, CO
In-reply-to: rlcarr@animato.network23.com's message of 9 Nov 92 01:39:47 GMT

>>>>> On 9 Nov 92 01:39:47 GMT, rlcarr@animato.network23.com (Rich Carreiro) said:
>> X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

>> In article <1992Nov5.204645.17596@newsgate.sps.mot.com> craigp@dolphin.sps.mot.com (Craig Petty) writes:
> Colorado has become the first to constitutionalize discrimination.  If you
> care about civil rights, please consider boycotting Colorado in all aspects
> (business, travel, etc).
> 
> I just called Invesco Financial Funds and closed all of my mutual fund
> accounts with them.  
> 
> This is the company that offers the Industrial Income fund, which has
> received extremely positive press the past year in various money magazines.
> 
> Someone also mentioned that Janus is based in Co, so I'll be calling them
> next to cancel.

>> This strikes me as remarkabily stupid and rather irrelevant.  Unless those
>> companies supported the amendment, what is the point of boycotting THEM?
>> They have done no wrong.

While I hesitate to use words nearly as strong as "remarkably stupid and
rather irrelevant" towards people I don't even know (c'mon would you
have used those words if the original poster were face to face with
you?), I have to agree that closing accounts with investment companies
in CO does not have the intended message.  I live in Colorado, and the
biggest hit in terms of boycotts would be to tourism, etc. not to
investment companies that invest in nation/world-wide companies.  I work
with Edward D. Jones, are you suggesting that I close my account with my
local broker then use an out of state one?


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From: bmoore@sunfish.austin.ibm.com (Bryan Moore)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Where can I learn more about Futures?
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:25:45 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin

Where can I learn more about Futures? 
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