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From: firestar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Lipton Ann Meredith)
Subject: Re: QL: "DUfE": observations
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 09:32:44 GMT


I had mixed reactions about the EL as well -- I liked the idea of her, but I
have to say I am not crazy about the actress who plays her.

The previous poster said she was not evil or threatening enough, and with that
I must disagree -- that scene where Frank comes home (I won't write anymore,
if you've seen the episode, you know what I mean, if not, there are no 
spoilers) was wonderfully chilling.  I just wish they could recast the role.
I dunno -- something about her bothered me.

How did she manage to crash airplanes and cause floods?  Or was that Ziggy
going nuts?

Firestar
-- 
I don't bite, you know.    | Find me and turn thy | It is better to have loved 
Unless it's called for.    | back on heaven.      | and lost than to have your
-- Audrey Hepburn, Charade | -- R. W. Emerson     | finger caught in a blender.
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From: eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: the EL came, the EL went, and now I'm confused
Date: 12 Nov 1992 16:15:19 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine) says:

>Oooops.  I mean Spoilers ho....
>I hope that worked, but some how I doubt it.
>


Actually, it worked, but just in case.
>
>
>"DAughter of SIn"?  Kinda makes everythign sound... cheap doesn't it?

Very cheap.  I nearly gagged when I heard that.  Doesn't really have 
anything to do with the episodes, but it sounds good and maybe it'll
get ratings.  We can only hope.  Five years isn't long enough.

>
>They're not going to show all 3 on one night, are they?
>
>Sally, Beth, Tracy, Terri?  Somebody tell me? I can't AFFORD a tv guide!
>

Part one on one night--parts two and three on another as a two
hour special.
-- 
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From: bsp1mh@surrey.ac.UK (Mr Manuel Hernandez Perez)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: (none)
Date: 8 Nov 92 15:30:27 GMT

unsubscribe sf-lovers manolo hernandez
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From: abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick)
Subject: Question on Deliver Us From Evil (and Ziggy)
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:14:00 GMT

	I made the mistake of NOT taping this episode so I can't back up
the following question and comments with actual quotes but at least I
watched the whole episode!

	During the show, the Evil Leaper makes reference (atleast TWICE)
to the fact that the "evil" computer L(something) controls her leaps!
Meaning, decides where she goes and what she does. I forget the quotes but
she made it out that she may not know where she's heading but L(something)
does.
	The evidence to this effect is that she didn't leap when
everything she needed to do was done because the "evil computer" wanted
her to kill Sam as a "bonus". There was no reason for her to kill Sam,
(Even the Evil Leaper and companion said that) since she leaped anyways
when she decided not to do it. Unless she wasn't leaping and was just
being punished...But this again brings up the fact that something (in this
case, the computer) is directly control her because it can leap/punish the
Evil Leaper whenever they choose.
	Is it possible that Ziggy can (or could) also control Sam's leaps?
If the Evil Leaper knows who pulling her strings, shouldn't Sam?

Alan Bick

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From: ied1@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ingrid de Beus)
Subject: Re: QL: Two-Faced Reviews: Deliver Us From Evil
Keywords: Evil Leaper From Hell
Reply-To: ied1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 01:57:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.142724.7653@ultb.isc.rit.edu> mdp2842@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.D. Perler) writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.023308.7401@grebyn.com> billones@grebyn.com (Jeremy Billones) writes:
>>
>>This post contains spoilers for the 11/10 episode of Quantum Leap
>
>And a few comments by a new QL poster.
>
>
>
>(1) What time period is the evil leaper project from? It would be interesting
>    if they are from after 1999, as that would mean Alia could leap into
>    someone at the project. Or what if she leaped into Sam before he used
>    the accelerator, and stopped him from leaping at all?

Now *that* is a scary idea.  Alia leaps into Tina!  oooohh, boy.  
>
>(3) How many evil leapers are there? I wonder about this because of my
>    interpretation of the "hell" line. If Alia and Zoey aren't handling
>    the really dirty jobs, then who is?

You know, this only just occured to me, too.  Notwithstanding whether
"hell" is a metaphor for a sh*tty job, or not -- there was competition
implied, and that means there might be others.  And Sam's all alone. No
wonder there were 17 floods and 3 earthquakes!

>
>(4) How did the evil leaper project start? My guess is either the tape
>    from Star Light, Star Bright, or, if their project started after 1999,
>    they somehow got their hands on Project QL's equipment.

I wish they could have said something about this, but I guess it will
be saved for another appearance.. hopefully a better handled one.  

>(5) About the distorted leap out by Alia: is this normal, or does it only
>    happen if she fails to accomplish her mission? If it's normal, would
>    the same thing happen to Sam if he failed?

Yow! I hope not.  I got the impression that it was a regular leap for
her, made more painful by Lothos as punishment.
>
>
>(7) What if one of Sam's future leaps coincides with one of Alia's past
>    leaps? The thought of this one gives me a headache. :-)

me too.  let's stop investigating this, hm? yeah, right.
>
>Mike P.

ingrid-


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oracle@usite-next.uchicago.edu			you've got no soul     
eyes of green smoke and hair of gold		only rips in your eyes
From: cardinal@informix.com (Edward Cardinal)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: QL: Deliver Us (Spoilers)
Summary: QL DELIVER US (SPOILERS)
Keywords: QL evil
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:11:51 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

SPOILER ALERT for Quantum Leap "Deliver Us From Evil"...

(I hope my ^L here works right)

Check me if I'm wrong, but everyone seems to be talking about how Sam
leapt AHEAD two days.... I thought when Al said "We lost two days," he
meant that they leapt BACK two days, as if none of the episode had ever
happened, that Frank wasn't cheating, and Sam/Jimmy had never even
crashed the forklift yet. In a sense, he leapt out (finally) before he
ever lept in (initially), so the whole timespace of the episode was no
more than a private battleground; no real events were effected at all.

Ok, on to the rest of the episode -- I liked it, in general; however, I
thought the ending was getting a little preachy. Maybe. We can't tell
if Zoey (Zooey? Zoe?) said "Hell" or "hell", that is, the metaphysical
dwelling place of The Evil One, or just a personal really bad
situation, like a dictatorship or something.

** SPECULATIONS AHOY **

My guess it is P:EQL (Project: Evil Quantum Leap) is not a government
sponsored thing, but privately funded. I think Alia and Zoey (or at
least Alia) are just people who were blackmailed or kidnapped into
participating, and Zoey really got into it. I don't think their evil
deeds are evil just for the sake of evil, but are part of a vast plot
to enrich or empower the P:EQL funders. Maybe Frank, Jimmy, or Connie
is destined to stop them from doing/getting something they want. Think
about it; a carefully planned assasination of a rival's grandfather would
make the rival simply never have existed. Moving money or holdings into the
right investments means instant wealth and power. It's not necessarily
inherent, pure Evil, just human greed.

Until we see more, I don't think we can say definitively. I hope that
the EL plotline doesn't become too regular, because it would get old
very fast... they should keep it an infrequent, unwelcome guest thing,
like "Q" on ST:TNG.

P.S., the F/X were killer on the Evil side. (pun intended...)

P.P.S. What was the Evil "Ziggy's" name? I couldn't catch it; I think it
started with an "L"...
-- 
[ Ed Cardinal                   An English major from Berkeley  ]
[                               Who sold out to programming     ]
[ cardinal@informix.com         Because it pays more.           ]
[          DISCLAIMER: My Opinions. MINE! MINE! MINE!           ]
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From: balbes@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: X-Men:  The Animated Series
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:12:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: ohstpy.14581.2afa613b

In article <1992Nov6.143230.17349@sinkhole.unf.edu>, kmeyer@unf6.unf.edu (Karl Meyers) writes:
> Ahem...
> 
> (1) X-MEN, as seen on Fox, is an animated series.
> (2) This *is* rec.arts.animation, last time I checked.
> 
> Conclusion: If anyone wants to talk about the animated series X-MEN here, they
> can do so.  And they have.  That's like saying discussion on BTAS belongs
> on r.a.comics.misc instead of here, which is ALSO false.

Interesting that everyone is talking about where the X-Men cartoon
should be discussed but no one is talking about the cartoon itself.
I read this in racm, by the way.  If this thread were dropped
the problem would take care of itself.  But far be it for me
to put a damper on such lively discussion.  :-)

Mark Balbes
From: ramsey@cua.edu (Betsy Ramsey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: B7 Mailing List
Summary: Off to a flying start
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:58:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcon.1992Nov10.225805.7179
Organization: The Catholic University of America

The new B7 mailing list that Calle Dybedahl proposed and started is
off to a flying start.  There are several interesting topics being
discussed there right now, including

  o digitized B7 music for microcomputer/workstation use
  o the use of first names versus last names on the show
	(e.g. Blake, Avon vs. Vila, Gan)
  o lack of emphasis on Jenna's character
  o commentary on "Avon - A Terrible Aspect"

While I wish that this discussion would take place here in news, there
are apparantly more than a few people who feel more comfortable with
the mailing list format and/or who do not have access to news.

I'd like to encourage those of you who do have access to both forums
to consider sending your material to both places: e-mail it to the
mailing list, and post it to newsgroup rec.arts.sf.tv.

The mailing list was announced on Nov 6th in rec.arts.sf.tv article
<1933@lysator.liu.se>.  The address of the list is
blake7@lysator.liu.se.  The address for subscriptions requests and 
other administrative issues is blake7-request@lysator.liu.se.

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   Betsy Ramsey, The Catholic University of America, Washington, DC
	    Internet: ramsey@cua.edu   Bitnet: ramsey@cua
		 Opinions expressed here are my own.
From: mre@kepler.unh.edu (Michael R Escutia)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: QL: AAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!
Date: 13 Nov 1992 03:08:47 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

Awright, this is getting ridiculous!  I have now lost *two* sig files to the
news server while going into RAST.  The first (mis)quoted Gushie and said
"The Evil Leaper is coming...", and the second said "Alia was here".  Both
lost to rn.  Both lost while I was going into RAST.  Both had references
to DUFE.
Do you smell the curse at work, too?
					--MikE
Pretend this is my sig file.

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From: @apollo.HP.COM (Jennifer E. Levine)
Subject: Babylon 5 my impressions...
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:58:05 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA

Hi all,
	I attended a presentation on Babylon 5 this weekend. The show has
	potential. What I saw was incomplete but I am looking forward to 
	seeing the finished project.
	
	The alien space ships were really cool!
	
	The characters were fairly 3-d. They had good and bad sides. Not all
	of the main type characters were on friendly open terms. But they still
	had to stay together.
	
	The creators paid attention to their Science fiction details. (The 
	spaceship spins to give gravity. Not all aliens breath Oxygen nitrogen.)
	
	The actors are still a tad stiff, but I think after an episode or two,
	the kinks will be worked out.
	
	--Jennifer
	jlevine@apollo.hp.com
From: jasstev@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (stevens jason)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Highlander - TV Series
Date: 6 Nov 92 23:35:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxBIuI.966
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

rogrif@SNLL-ARPAGW.LLNL.GOV (griffith richard o) writes:

>I greatly enjoyed the original Highlander movie, and managed to avoid
>seeing the second film, Highlander 2: The Sickening based on the extremely
>negative reaction here on the net.  Perhaps it is the fact that I missed
>the second movie, or perhaps I am merely starved for a continuation of the
>Highlander theme and storyline, but I find myself REALLY liking the series.
>Quick, someone provide a reality check:  is the series actually decent, or
>should I go off and slap myself silly?
  
  I also saw The Sickening and basically I just try to ignore the fact it actually happened. Thank God i didnt have to pay to see it. This does not detract from the fact that the series is EXCELLENT and I love evry minute of it.
  Bias or what? That Queen music is superb, we even had Dont lose Your head in
  Free Fall

>As long as I am writing, *** SPOILERS ***

>Someone just mentioned that in the Joan Jett episode, Duncan lets her keep
>her head at the very end, when he had ample justification to whack it off.
>This gives the impression that he is a "nice" guy.  However, in the "DIE
>HARD 3" episode in the courthouse, he gleefully chops up multiple badguys
>without even atempting to "take them alive".  I wonder if a previous poster
>was on to something:  it's ok to kill MEN, but not to off ladies, no matter
>what the provocation.  If I may widen the discussion, I am having trouble
>thinking of occasions on TV or in movies where a male hero actually kills
>a female villain, rather than defeating her and then having mercy.  Lots
>of female heros kill MALE badguys...  is this some kind of strange reverse
>discrimination in our society?

 Duncan spares Felicia because richie (the lucky brat- did you see how many
 times he kissed her?!) stopped Duncan from releasing the Sickening from her.
 So yes, he is a nice guy, and lets face it, only him and Connor have been the
 good guys this series immortal wise.
 And I dont blame him for popping off the terrorists (Duncan McClane!) - I 
 would also be pissed off if somebocy shot me and threatened my loved ones, and
 innocent people.
 I think also this was a conscious decision not to kill off to many immortals,
 and give her the chance to return one day. I hope so.

 Roll on Axl Rose as an immortal (it is planned) and lets see how he acts.!
 Jason.
>richard griffith
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From: schenker@sunburn.ec.usf.edu. (Adam Schenker (GE))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv,rec.video.releases
Subject: Is "Something Is Out There" out there?
Date: 1 Nov 92 13:40:18 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Univ. of South Florida, College of Engineering


Hello,
	I'm trying to locate a video tape of the NBC mini-series called
"Something Is Out There". It originally aired in 2 parts several years
ago. It was rebroadcast on May 24th, 1991. However, the rebroadcast is
missing some scenes/footage, so I am trying to find the 'complete' version
(the original broadcast). Please send me e-mail if you know where I can
get this. I believe the original aired about '88 or '89 (if that helps).

	For those of you reading this from rec.video.releases, I always
try to find extended/directors releases of movies (those with extra
footage that was cut out of the theatrical/video release). Does someone
have a list of all the movies released that include "extra" footage?
(I finally managed to get a copy of the director's cut of "Aliens" after
many months of searching). E-mail, please. I generally don't read these
groups on a regular basis.

	Thank you for taking the time to read this!
--
Adam Schenker                  Department of Computer Science & Engineering
schenker@suntan.ec.usf.edu     University of South Florida
                               College of Engineering
From: bdsm@poincare.WPI.EDU (Billy Don McConnell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: Hooray, the UK Season has started!
Date: 5 Nov 1992 19:52:00 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: poincare.wpi.edu
Originator: bdsm@poincare.WPI.EDU



|> imc@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Ian Collier) writes:
|> 
|> >1. So who invented the string theory first - Sam Beckett or Mo Stein? :-)

Actually, we may well assume that Mo Stein developed the string theory first.
He certainly had the looped-string theory down perfectly.  And who's to 
say that he couldn't have made that 'leap of logic' (pardon the pun) to the
balled-up-string theory.  It is entirely possible that in the 'original history',
young Sam wrote in his letter and as Mo was considering explaining the Theory, he
came upon the notion of balling up the string.

It is not at all unlikely that this would happen. I am a Mathematician, and I 
have long since ceased to be amazed that the theories I may have derived are not
entirely new, having been previously developed by many other Mathematicians. If
you study the same problem, chances are you'll come up with (essentially) the 
same solution. Mo studied Time Travel like Sam, came up with the basic string
theory like Sam's, and even had a virtually viable machine like Sam's (heck, it 
even emanated the 'LeapLight', for goodness' sake)...I sincerely believe that Mo 
may well have developed the whole balled-string theory first.  And he might have 
given this theory to young Sam, who meditated on it from then on and grew up to 
make good on the idea...just like Mo (almost) did.


Of course, Sam also Heimlich'd the choking Dr. Heimlich...did he 'teach' the 
Doctor the maneuver?  Well, maybe, maybe not.  You'd think that Dr. Heimlich 
would have studied various methods of dislodging obstructions of the windpipe...
pushing up on the diaphragm makes good logical sense, and the Doctor probably
would have looked into this option.  The only thing Sam might have done to 
influence the development of the maneuver is to have given the Doctor actual (and 
personal) experimental evidence of the viability of the procedure.

But then, there are other leaps in which Sam's interactions with 'famous folk'
cannot necessarily be explained away like this.



I enjoy arguments that will never be settled!

B.D.S. "Don" Mc Connell
From: mre@kepler.unh.edu (Michael R Escutia)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: New Blood requests
Date: 9 Nov 1992 22:33:02 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

In article <1dm3ieINN2d6@bigboote.WPI.EDU> jtruss@planet10.WPI.EDU (Free the Expo 67!) writes:
>In article <1992Nov8.182234.27800@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> jenkirtl@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Jennifer Kirtley) writes:
>
>>"Theorizing that one could travel through Boston on the MBTA,
>>Dr. Sam Beckett stepped onto the Green Line... and vanished!
>>Trapped on the `T', Dr. Beckett finds himself leaping from
>>station to station, using `T' Passes that are not his own..."
>
>As someone who's been on the `T', I think I can safely say that this
>*wouldn't* be a fictional show...
>
>But considering the QL f/x, shouldn't it be the Blue Line? ;)
>
>*ducks the impending projectile barrage*
>
FIRE!
Just kidding.
Waitasec, there's a line missing:

	"His only guide on the journey is Al, who appears in the form of a tic-
ket checker that only Sam can see and hear."

And then there's the title....

			Boston Leap

:)					--MikE


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From: driskill%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Hank Driskill, GSH3D)
Subject: Re: Panzer's HIGHLANDER goof!!!
Date: 5 Nov 92 11:47:33 MST
Keywords: There should have been only one
Organization: Grad Student From Hell (in 3D)

In article <Bx7K5I.22y@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jasstev@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (stevens jason) writes:
> The latest Starlog magazine carries an article on the new Highlander series
> (december 1992)...while it is interesting reading, Panzer the producer has
> made the ultimate cock up.
> Here  we go:
>
>  "...which takes place sometime between the conclusion of the first Highlander
>  movie and Highlander 2 : the Quickening.."
>
>  OOOOPS. so how do you work that one out? Do you disregard the all the modern
>  day sequences in Highlander movie as a dream (because in the series Connor
>  is still immortal, and there are loads of other immortals all very old 
>  running about the place)  or
>  do you regard the series as complete nonsense? (which actually it is not)
>

I read this a few weeks ago... and decided very quickly that Panzer has no
clue what he's talking about.  There, problem solved.  :)

Hank.

PS: I scanned the two pix -- Duncan and Slan, and Duncan and Connor... they
make great root windows!
From: 01lucas@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Trek TNG's Dyson Sphere
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:47:52 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <9211051441.A13841@mail.lib.duke.edu>, rkk@MAIL.LIB.DUKE.EDU (Randy Kloko) writes:
> 
>           1. Is Scotty's Dyson sphere going to be the "abandoned alien
>           space station" rumored to appear in "Deep Space Nine"?

Deep Space 9 will take place on a run down, old, badly constructed Cardasian 
space station.  The Dyson sphere will probably never be heard of again.  For
more info look at the ST:DS9 list of lists which was recently posted in 
rec.arts.startrek.current. 

>           2. If Troi can empathically detect deception and Geordi can
>           tell with his visor when a human is lying, how can Ryker
>           consistently beat them at Poker?

R_i_ker, not Ryker... Anyway, Troi can "turn off" her emotion detectors, which 
she does to make the game fun.  I don't know about Geordi, but he probably just
ignores those frequences.  After all, poker wouldn't be much fun if you knew 
who would win beforehand.

BTW, questions such as these should really be posted in 
rec.arts.startrek.current.

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