From: minhaszt@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Iraq combats Iranian sorties, violates peace treaty
Date: 12 Apr 92 18:48:01 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <1992Apr12.215459.21039@watserv1.waterloo.edu>, arash@sunee.waterloo.edu (Arash Jahangir) writes:
> I never thought I'd say anything nice about the regime in Iran, but compared to
> that in Iraq, the regime in Iran is a very reasonable and democtratic regime,
> which should just tell you how bad the one in Iraq really is.
> 
> In article <2522@keele.keele.ac.uk> phd21@seq1.kl.ac.uk (A. Jaber) writes:
>>
>>		This is How Neo-Khomeinists think...
>>
>>	I have received this message of hate from Mr Muhammad Taqwaa
>>	Mr Black Jack at university of Nevada RENO in a private E-mail.
>>	Mr Taqwaa who is either an Iranian or an Arab Shia Ne-Khomeinist
>>	shows the world how he and he Khomeini gangs conduct business
>>	withe the people who disagree with thyem.
> 
> If he is an Iraqi Shia then it is his right to say and do wahtever he feels is
> best for Iraq.  Iraq has never had a popular base among its people with the
> exception of the brief period of Abdul Karim Qasem.  No country can ever force
> an uprising in Iraq if the Iraqi people had been happy with their regime.  The
> magnitude of those uprising and their intensity stems from the cruelties of the
> Ba'thy regime.  Assuming that your comments re. Iran's help are correct, then
> Iran only helped the rebels i.e Iran did not (and never could) cause the 
> rebellion if people in Iraq had nothing to rise against.
> 
>>
>>	Mr Taqwaa was responding to my article in which I highlighted
>>	the situation where Iran is hosting terrorist groups that caused
>>	a lot of damage to Iraq specially during and after the war with
>>	the USA. If it was not for the Terrorist action by those
>>	criminal gangs based in Iran and now in Saudi Arabia Iraq will
>>	never host the Mujahedee Khalq, it is the Terrorist nature of
>>	the Neo-Khomeinists that brings the trouble to the region.
>>
>>	A Jaber
>>
> 
> First of all see my answer above.  Secondly, what you call terorist, others
> call freedom fighters.  It is the same old story, one man's terorist is another
> man's hero.  You could only claim they are terorists if and only if there were
> democratic avenues available to them and they had chosen to use force instead.
> Perhaps you need a little memory refershment about Sadam's life, who he was,
> what his political activities were which brought him to power, and how he runs
> the country, to remind what terorism really is.  That is not a problem at all.
> I can tell you from his illegal activities prior to Iraq's revolution, to how
> him and 3 others attempted to assasinate Qasim, to how he burnt members of
> Iraqi opposition alive in front of each other in the x-royal palace to force
> false public confessions from them, to how he has bombed his own cities to has
> terrorized the general public to ....  But I think you already know these.
> Don't talk about terorism as if you are supporting a democratic or at least a
> semi-decent guy.  Iraqies have lost far too much to the Ba'th party.  Perhaps
> I should read you some of that parties constitution and beleifs by its 
> originators to show you what a pro-facistic party it is.  But then again why
> state the obvious.  You notice that none of my critisisms have anything to do
> with the inhumane and beastly behaviour of your troops.  People kill each other
> in a war but even then there are limits to what they would not do.  You people
> have stooped lower than the lowest animals.  But that is an entirely different
> story.
> 
>>>From: taqwaa@edu.unr.equinox (Muhammad Taqwaa)
>>>Subject: Re: Iraq combats Iranian sorties, violates peace treaty
>>>Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
>>>Organization: University of Nevada, Reno
>>>
>>>
>>>You better shut your ... dirty nationalist.
> 
> Of course he is wrong here.  A nationalist is one who holds his nation above
> all else.  Ba'thies however hold thei dirty lives and high paying positions
> above all else.  So Mr. Taqwaa is wrong here; you are not a nationalist.
> 
>>>You don't have brain. At 80 iran was in very critical position 
>>>after it's grate ISLAMIC rev.  and every country was supporter of criminal s
>>>sadam yazid 
>>
> 
> What is wrong with that.  Sadam did have a lot of supporters then, and there 
> are records that show he had been preparing for war since two years prior to
> his attack (which is to say as soon as Iran started to have domestic problems).
> The arguement that he attacked Iran just doesn't hold.  Just as the German's
> arguement that they started WWII because Polland attacked a German boarder town
> does not hold.
> 
>>>now stupid sadam and you are in bad condition ready to be kiled by US
>>>                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>	Mr Taqwaa is threatening my life, to your knowledge Mr Taqwaa
>>	your name will be handed to the police both in the UK and USA.
>>
> 
> No he is not.  He just said that yourown stupidity is getting you killedby 
> the hands of Americans (and not his).
> 	
>>>(MOSLEM IRANIAN AND MUSLEM IRAQies BR.
>>
> 
> That is pure bull shit.  There is no brothership between us except perhaps
> with the Kurds that are suffering inside Iraq (who are Iranian anyways) and
> some of the Shia's in South-East Iraq, who seem to be the only civilized people
> in Iraq.
> 
>>>shut up for ever dirty BASI
>>>ANd tell Rajavi shut up too.
> 
> You should listen to him.  He is right you know.  You Ba'thies are dirity.
> 
> 
> Arash


There is no need for this crapola on the net. There should be some level of
civility.

zafar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian