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From: egev05@castle.ed.ac.uk (B A Page)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Cryin' baby express ... what to do?
Date: 22 Jul 92 12:04:41 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <l6oeelINNcr@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:
>In article <1992Jul17.193722.27915@parc.xerox.com> dourish@EuroPARC.Xerox.COM 
>(Paul Dourish) writes:

[lots of ranting about smoking]

Just to throw my oar in, as it were, I am proud to inform the Peevetown
residents that I have, for the third time this year, given up smoking. 
This time it's gonna WORK!  6 days already and no cravings!  Already
passed the first pub test!

Filthy habit.  

Actually the main impetus I have found for stopping is the thought of
all those rich tobacco company executive GITS getting fat off my meagre
grant cheque, my poorly lungs, cheap Third World labour and the addiction
imposed by their crafty, insiduous marketing.  Sucker no longer.  Put that
in your pipe and smoke it.  

6 days and I already DETEST the smell of smoke in public places.  I have
a nasty suspicion I'm going to be one of those REALLY obnoxious
ex-smokers that I used to hate.

Peeve;  That I didn't give up 3 years ago.

BiggerPeeve;  That I started in the first place.

!Peeve; at least I had a good reason for starting.

Babs
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way)
Subject: Re: Self-serve gas stations
Organization: New Mexico State University, MetaPhysical Science Laboratory
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:57:56 GMT

In article <2tmmwmg@lynx.unm.edu> hillman@carina.unm.edu (Dan Hillman) writes:
   [...]
  Big thoughts here, 'drew. Close your eyes for a moment and think to yourself,
  "I want to put something in there that will hold the handle up." Good. Now
  open your eyes and look for something that will do the trick. Maybe using
  your gas cap top-to-bottom instead of sideways will do the trick. Maybe
  there's a handy rock nearby. Use the head of the squeegie from the next
  pump island over. Use your tire pressure indicator thingie. Use your brain.

The rock is a good idea. For a "serious" practical joke, get them to
automatically shut off the pump at $10, and leave your rock in position in
the handle - for the NEXT person.. (Imagine his surprise when they turn on
the pump for him and wa la! - five gallons of gas poured out before he can
get the pump handle near his gas tank.. Har har har!)

Using one's brain might not be a good idea, Dan. For one thing, it may not
be large enough to hold the pump on. For another, one might drive off and
leave it..

Unrelated Peeve: Magnificent Adminstrative Leechdom. Now that NMSU is
charging a full $5 for staff parking privileges, it takes over an hour to
get a sticker through the processing line at the NMSU Business Office. It
got a little faster after they put the forms out in the lobby where people
could start filling them out. But the multiple computer station visits
didn't help. 

Wonder why our enlarged NMSU Parking Department couldn't handle this? (I
guess they don't trust those folks to collect money..)

Having a resource like parking at our state university doled out in this
manner is a peeve in itself. But when we are forced to wait over an hour
to receive a paid permit for such, well, that really frosts me. 

L.
"Yeh, Buddy..            | larry@psl.nmsu.edu (Larry Cunningham)|  _~~_
 I've got your COMPUTER! | % Physical Science Laboratory        | (O)(-)
 Right HERE!!"           | New Mexico State University          |  /..\ 
 (computer THIS!)        | Las Cruces, New Mexico, USA 88003    |   <> 
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Disclaimer: Opinions expressed here are CORRECT, mine, and not PSLs or NMSUs..
Tularosa: tullies, roses, lava, white sands, and home of THEM! (atomic ants).
From: melindac@thedarktower.Corp.Sun.COM (Ugga de Boogidie)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: BDI On Board
Date: 22 Jul 1992 17:36:47 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: thedarktower.corp.sun.com


	Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford) :
	> Today I saw a new twist - a car with a "Dog On Board" sticker 
	> in the back window. 

A few weeks ago I saw this on a jeep ... "Girlfriend on Board. Drive
carefully."

Like Hell I will.


	Melinda
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: yarvin@highlite.uucp (Curtis Yarvin)
Subject: Re: Cryin' baby express ... what to do?
Organization: Gotham Communications Research
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:52:25 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.164415.29767@tdb.uu.se> t88swa@tdb.uu.se (Sven Wallman) writes:
>:
>: This would fit quite nicely with the usual Swedish style, prevalent
>: ever since Gustavus Adolphus bought up the national gonad supply
>: and lost it all in the icy Volga, dooming Sweden to eternal neutrality
>: but bringing joy to caviar-lovers in the centuries to follow.
>:
>Eh, I think you are thinking of another historical event. Gustavus Adolphus
>was shot on the battlefield of Lutzen (he was quite fat), but the battle was
>won. It was Charles the 12th who lost lots of swedish territory, mainly
>because the russians got organized.

Shit!  

And the worst thing about it: I've _made_ this mistake before, and I _knew_
it when I posted, but I thought the error had been substituting Charles XII
for Gustavus Adolphus.

Peeve: dead Swedish kings.

c
From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Subject: Another Enema Zoo Blunder (Was: Self-serve gas stations)
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:34:07 GMT

<In article <LARRY.92Jul29075756@peak.psl.nmsu.edu> larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way) writes:

<   Unrelated Peeve: Magnificent Adminstrative Leechdom. Now that NMSU is
<   charging a full $5 for staff parking privileges, it takes over an hour to
<   get a sticker through the processing line at the NMSU Business Office. It<
<   got a little faster after they put the forms out in the lobby where people
<   could start filling them out. But the multiple computer station visits
<   didn't help. 

	Well, at least you went to Ed Services...SOME folks (not
	me) went to the parking department, filled out all the
	forms ("drivers license, vehicle registration, campus
	id, blood type, DNA structure, retina prints PUHleese)
	and then found out they had to stroll up to Ed Services
	ANYWAY!!!!

	I note that SOMEONE (not me...) took a spray can to
	the building that Parking lives in....the slogan
	"F*CK THE PARKING DEPT.", while not very original,
	is quite pithy and au courant.

	Wanna know how the Parking Dept. picked 5$ as a fee for
	parking stickers? D'yah spose they actually sat down
	and looked at their budget, figured out what they 
	needed, asked the B'dness Office for suggestions?

	Naaaaaaaaaaaaah.......THAT would make SENSE.
	
	5$ is a number pulled out of thin air...or
	out of SOMEwhere....

	So, Larry, properly speaking one should write it dis way:
	"Enema Zoo parking stickers cost 5$ *THIS* year"......

<Wonder why our enlarged NMSU Parking Department couldn't handle this?

	Because it's a training ground for future Department of
	Motor Vehicle personnel?
	
<(I guess they don't trust those folks to collect money..)

	Damned straight they don't, and with good reason!!!

<   Having a resource like parking at our state university doled out in this
<   manner is a peeve in itself. But when we are forced to wait over an hour
<   to receive a paid permit for such, well, that really frosts me. 

	Stick around (like you have a choice, with that crummy
	airconditioning in the New PSL-East Annex....); 
	the Legislature may well decide that since Enema Zoo 
	is collecting all those bucks for parking, the general 
	appropriation for this place can just be cut by 
	exactly the same amount....
From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Male bonding
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Date: 29 Jul 1992 18:56:31 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Menlo Park, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: purplehaze.corp.sun.com



In article <1992Jul29.171016.12169@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu
(Bill Berbenich) writes:

>Peeve:  This whole "male bonding" pop-psych thing.  What the Hell is it about
>        some women who figure that just because I like drinking beer with and
>        playing sports (like bowling and golf :) with my male buddies, that
>        also means I want to tie them up with leather or handcuffs (or
>        whatever)?


Well, all I know is that when I first read,

>        playing sports (like bowling and golf :)

I thought you'd written "*blowing* and golf."


Geoff "Dyselxics Untie!" Miller


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Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: hillman@carina.unm.edu (Dan Hillman)
Subject: Re: Micro Beards (was something else entirely) 
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 13:39:34 GMT
Organization: Holy Order of Quadra 950 Lust

In article <1992Jul26.203118.5046@news.iastate.edu> z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
>In article <+jkmyra@lynx.unm.edu> hillman@carina.unm.edu (Dan Hillman) writes:
>
>>Wait a minute, wait a minute. All of that stuff is *60s*. Sure, it existed
>>in the 70s, but it didn't have the same tackiness as the "Ten-four good
>>buddy; keep on truckin'" t-shirts which karma-jockeys prize.
>
>	This reminds me: the 70's Preservation Society is an *actual* group,
>and will sell you compilations of 70's music.  They do not, however, sell
>8-tracks, only cassette, LP, and CD.  What's the point?

Peeve: The new (advertised on TV) "Best of the 70s" music set. The ad
features a male and female dork in their natural habitats (phones held 
firmly to ear, call-waiting in the background, no doubt) talking about
this great collection of music "...from the 70s, all those *great*
songs you've been looking for!"

The commercial itself is a !peeve as it features such fine straight lines
as "I've heard that disco is making a comeback!" and "Hey, bay-bee, I'll
hustle right over!"

The peeve is that the set is only available on cassette or CD. Jeez, where's
the *album* where's the gawdamn *eight-track*! ObSheesh.

Peeve: What do you call a collection of music. It's not necessarily an
"album" any more. It might not be on a "disc" format. So what the hell is
the generic term for it?
-- 
Dan Hillman                  "If all the poetry and nonsense that have been
hillman@carina.unm.edu       discharged upon the bland scenery of this region
University of New Mexico     region were collected in a book, it would make
Land of Enchantment          a most valuable volume to burn."--Samuel Clemens
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: adwright@iastate.edu ()
Subject: Picnics
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 10:02:22 GMT

Peeve: That one person at a picnic who who says something about the
"extra protein" when a bug flies into the food.


Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu (Jenni Sheehey)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Drug testing and welfare
Date: 28 Jul 92 23:00:46 GMT
 <14omq0INNltd@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <92206.093638JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu>
 <1992Jul26.232402.27100@highlite.uucp>
Organization: Penn State University

yarvin@highlite.uucp (Curtis Yarvin) says:
>In article <92206.093638JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu> Jenni Sheehey
><JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>
>>Peeve: People who think that people have a *right* to indulge in illegal
>>activities.  You have a right to try to change the law.  You don't have a
>>right to disobey it.  If you can get away with it, fine, but don't get
>>all huffy if you get caught.
>
>The wisdom of the sages.  Duh.
>
>"Why is doing drugs wrong?"
>        "Because it's illegal."
>
>"Why are drugs illegal?"
>        "Because, uh, they're _wrong_."

No.  "Why shouldn't people use money to buy illegal drugs?"
         "Because they're illegal."

     "Why are drugs illegal?"
        "Because people who are now probably dead, but were
         elected by citizens of this country, made a law against
         it.  I don't think it's wise to use them, but if you
         think they're ok, you're welcome to try to change the
         law."

>Peeve: people of such feeble moral sense that they have to latch onto their
>neighbors', like ants in a flood-ball.  Look, peaches, _you_ might think
>everything that's legal is right and everything that's illegal is wrong,
>but some of us have a less sheeplike view of life, and we don't appreciate
>being sheared along with the rest of the flock.

Peeve: People who assume that everyone who disagrees with them has
poorly thought out views.

>When I think the law is wrong, I _break_ it.

Peeve: People who think that disobedience is better than reform.

>The company, after all, will be first-rate; could I
>mind a spot in the same infernal circle as Samuel Adams, Nat Turner, Henry
>David Thoreau, Martin Luther King, and Edward Abbey?

Well, I think you'd have to call Samuel Adams more of a reformer, and,
as I recall, the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. was not remiss in
"rendering unto Caesar".  It is possible to fix a situation which you
feel to be intolerable by means other than self-righteously doing
whatever you like.

                                                 --Jenni
From: pwg@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Goldberg)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Oh, and one more ...
Date: 24 Jul 92 11:25:06 GMT
Reply-To: pwg@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Goldberg)
Organization: blood-suckers of the taxpayer

In article <39544@skye.dcs.ed.ac.uk> Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al
Crawford) writes:

>We're getting a new building on campus here too (Peeve: they're building it
>on the sight of Ye Olde Scenic Carpark, one of the few sizeable areas of
>clear ground left on campus). The major antipeeve though is that they seem
>to be dropping the building quite neatly into the carpark site without
>damaging any of the surroundings. There's some rather nice gardens about 2
>metres from where the corner of the new building is going to be, and they
>haven't been touched.

What peeves me about that building is that it has no basement. Now the
King's Buildings site has been cluttered up with architectural junk
over the years, a process that continues without any obvious signs of
planning or attention to overall layout. This process has continued
during my own sojourn in Embra, and includes most notably the new
halls of residence which occupy what used to be tennis courts.
Basically, the KB site is getting overcrowded. Now given that space is
supposedly at a premium, since they had to destroy some perfectly good
tennis courts to put up a hall of residence, it would make sense to
use the space you do have available efficiently. It should be standard
for all new buildings here to have basements, given the extra indoor
space you get at no extra cost to what remains of the tastefully
landscaped grounds (as it happens, the gardeners at KB do a good job.
If the architects were as good, it would be an excellent place.)
Besides, it's not as if the lack of natural light would be such a
problem in this place, considering how little of it there is available
most of the time.

The reason why the new buildings in this place do not have basements
is due to the perennial, pandemic problem of short-termism. Because
it's cheaper to just build them above ground, in the long run everyone
suffers more. You'd have thought that a bit of long-term planning and
foresight would be prevalent in a university, but apparently not.

yours peevishly,
Paul.


Voltaire to Rousseau, on reading Rousseau's "Ode a la Poste'rite'":
"Mon ami, voila une lettre qui ne sera jamais recue a son addresse"
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: hillman@carina.unm.edu (Dan Hillman)
Subject: Re: Men's Cologne and Other Proof of Satan's Existence
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 02:33:05 GMT
Organization: Holy Order of Quadra 950 Lust

In article <LARRY.92Jul21135958@peak.psl.nmsu.edu> larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way) writes:
>
>There's a good short book around called Class (can't recall the author)
>which talks about such things, in a very interesting fashion.

Fussell, Paul (1983). *Class*. New York: Ballantine Books.
ISBN 0-345-31816-1

A must have for any peever. A modest excerpt:

	To achieve even greater ugliness, the prole will sometimes wear
	his cap back to front. This places the strap in full view
	transecting the wearer's forehead, as if pride in the one-size-
	fits-all gadget were motivating him to display the cap's
	"technology" and his own command of it. President Reagan wore
	a prole cap while in performance once atop a tractor in Peoria.
	It looked natural.

Last year Fussell also came out with the book *Bad*. It's pretty good,
particulary in the way in which peevesome and tacky things are
arranged for easy reference, but for the most part it comes off as
a watered-down version of *Class*.

--------

>And, I had this suite-mate
>in college, who used it as "instant shower", as he called it. He put on
>his shirt of three days, with the armpits rotting out, and proceeded to
>drench the armpits with Right Guard, sprayed on the outside of the shirt.
>Instant shower. Rotten.

Hmmm. I've always heard that's called a "cowboy shower."

-- 
| _   ;/                                                          Dan Hillman
|(")_/   "I'm right and you're not."                   hillman@carina.unm.edu
|~~/                                                 University of New Mexico
|~/                                               Land of Fucking Enchantment
From: Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Newbie Alert!
Date: 30 Jul 92 07:51:01 GMT
Reply-To: Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford)
Organization: Penicuik People's Revolutionary Sheepdog Liberation Front

And lo, sac@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu spake unto the masses saying:
>
> No, Jen. Both you and dan quayle are light-weights who hold politically
> outmoded opinions

Hmmm....

different political views = politically outmoded opinions?

So much for political pluralism. If you don't agree with me, your opinions
are outmoded. Nice one.

> and justify those opinions with "That's just the way it is."

Heh. I've been sitting out this little quarrel since my opinions on the
subject differ substantially from both the main viewpoints that've been
expressed and I have no intention of airing them, but of the two sides I'd
say it's the side of Jenni and that guy in Canada whose name I forget that
*has* been making a decent attempt to justify their opinions. Unlike some
of the PC-er than thou rantings coming from certain individuals on the
other side. Remind me for a moment Scott, just which side was it that
brought Nazis into the debate?

Just my 0.02 ecu. Given that both sides seem to hold their opinions fairly
solidly (i.e. nobody is about to change their minds) and that the
entertainment value of this thread, never high in the first place, has
dropped to somewhere just below nil, rendering any further "debate" a
complete waste of time and bandwidth, 0.02 ecu is all I'm going to give it.

--
		Not Al Crawford - Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk
     "The water shines/A sheepdog skips across the face/A dozen times"
From: dre@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (Please Fondle My Buttocks)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: BDI On Board
Date: 23 Jul 92 23:56:41 GMT
Organization: The San Jose Home for Perverted Hackers

hillman@carina.unm.edu (Dan Hillman) writes:

>In article <39563@skye.dcs.ed.ac.uk> Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford) writes:
>>
>>Dog on board, sheesh. What next, special safety seats
>>you can strap Fido into?

>Um, !Al, I hate to break the news to you (heh heh heh) but here in 'Merika,
>the land of the free and the home of the brave where the streets are
>paved with gold (they're a bit slippery in the rain, but what the hell),
>these things *have* been for sale for years.

Haven't seen any safety seats, but have seen plenty of dog seatbelt harnesses.

My dog is smart - she sleeps when she's in the car and lies on floor
behind my seat.

Btw, !Al, if you ride your pooch in the back of your pickup truck, it
needs to be strapped in or tied down so it won't flop over the side.

-- 
"If I had killed her when I had first thought about getting divorced,
 I would have been out of jail by now."
	-- A newly-divorced guy I met at a block party
From: Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Newbie Alert!
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:01:38 GMT
Reply-To: Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford)
Organization: Penicuik People's Revolutionary Sheepdog Liberation Front

And lo, sac@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu spake unto the masses saying:
>              			
> obpeeve: Or how about this one? The ever popular waking up after sleeping
> and your hair's all messed up. I hate when that happens.

Yeah, I can go with that one. The only way that's ever *not* going to
happen to me is if I shave my head or my hair all falls out. How long the
hair is doesn't seem to matter. If it's anything over about 4cm long I end
up looking like the lead singer of A Flock Of Seagulls (now there's an
obscure reference for those readers of this newsgroup whose musical tastes
aren't centred in the early 80s like wot mine are), albeit considerably
less photogenic and a lot less blonde. If it's anything less, I end up
looking like the lead singer of A Flock Of Seagulls after he's had a
haircut.

Given the hassle it causes, I think shaving my head might be the best
option. *Every* morning without fail, I have to wash my hair, since my
dog-brush just can't cope with the strange geometric shapes my hair gets
slept into. Now I wouldn't really have to wash my hair any more often than
every second day otherwise but...

On top of that, the fact that my hair has to be washed daily causes other
problems. Shampooing it daily means that unless I use an anti-dandruff
shampoo, I have a problem with dandruff. The problem with that is that
there's only one anti-dandruff shampoo known to man that actually works on
me. Which is a) expensive and b) (according to a source in the industry)
causes your hair to thin.

So I guess the problem will solve itself one of these days, when the hair
gets so weak that it won't have the rigidity to get pushed into strange and
unusual shapes.

AntiPeeve: it got cut yesterday and is now at its shortest. While I still
have to wash it daily, at least it dries naturally in about five minutes
flat.

> Am I a peevetown member yet?

No, I'll resist the opportunity to make any word play here, I will, I will.

--
		Not Al Crawford - Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk
     "The water shines/A sheepdog skips across the face/A dozen times"