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From: jeremy@classic.asd.sgi.com (Jeremy Higdon)
Subject: Re: CalTrain Article
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:08:13 GMT

In article <1561@dosbears>, mikel@dosbears.UUCP (Mike Lipsie) writes:
> In article <C1DHH1.7yz@news.fai.com> vaughnw@hadar.fai.com (Vaughn Wolffe) writes:
> >
> >[Discussing having BOTH CalTrain and BART on the Peninsula]
> >
> >There two things wrong with this. One, you would appreciate as an
> >engineer, is that railroad engineering is an established field that
> >has developed techniques and methods that allow not only redundacy 
> >but fast recovery. For the 89 quake CalTrain was up and running
> >almost immediately with enough capacity to handle the surge of 
> >people that missed the earlier train and those who decided to leave
> >earlier than scheduled. It continued on schedule without the rapid
> >deterioration of equipment that BART experienced. 
> 
> EXCUSE ME.
> 
> When the 89 Loma Prieta earthquake struck, I was at the Castro
> station waiting for the [slightly] late train.  After about an
> hour, I (and another fellow) decided to walk the short distance
> to El Camino and take the bus to SF.  (There was only one transistor
> radio among the people waiting and we never heard any announcements
> about any services.)  This was at rush hour.  We were expecting
> trains in both directions.
> 
> As I recall, neither train system began running until after
> midnight (for the newcomers to the area (especially those who 
> are not baseball fans), the earthquake was at 5:04pm).
> 
> Over the next few weeks, there were many significant aftershocks.
> After each, both CalTrain and BART had similar policies.  STOP,
> proceed slowly (examining by eye the track) to the next station,
> wait for clearance from Central.  (Basically, wait for all trains
> to get to a station and gather any other information, such as
> police, fire, ...)
> 
> Then both systems seem to feel that they could not trust the tracks
> until a train had gone over them.  Note that for CalTrain this takes
> hours.
> 
> To claim that CalTrain was "on schedule" in the period after the
> earthquake redefines "chutzpah".

In fact, for many hours after the quake, the only transit in SF was
the good old diesel bus.

jeremy

Newsgroups: ba.transportation
From: frankm@resonex.com (Frank Muennemann)
Subject: Re: Pushbuttons at crossings (was Signal Synchronization) 
Organization: Resonex Inc., Sunnyvale CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 05:40:30 GMT

In article <C16tzF.HDz@queernet.org> rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese) writes:
>When most bicyclists actually start *stopping* at red lights and stop signs --
>a full, no-motion stop -- then we can worry about how to make this more
>convenient for them.
>-- 
>ROGER B.A. KLORESE                                              +1 415 ALL-ARFF

When most MOTORISTS actually start *stopping* at ... stop signs --
a full, no-motion stop -- then we can worry about how to make this more
convenient for them.

I take it you're a motorist who stops at stop signs and is always
courteous to cyclists and pedestrians.  Let me tell you something about
typical motorists' habits:  For about 6 years, I had an office with a
clear view of the Foothill Blvd/Hillview Ave./Miranda St. intersection
in Palo Alto.  Less than 5 per cent (I ACUTALLY counted them for some
time!)  of motorists crossing the Foothill/Miranda offramp intersection
actually stopped at the stop signs at Miranda.  Most didn't even SLOW
DOWN to cycling velocities (10 MPH).  Motorists frequently ignored red
lights (I typically saw several per day).

(* flame on! *)

IMHO ANYONE who believes that motorists are more law-abiding than
cyclists/pedestrians hasn't taken an objective look at the behavior of
real people on the streets.  I hate to think how often I've been run off
the road by a road warrier with his middle finger sticking out, in a
hurry to make a right turn or unwilling to make the effort to pass me
when I'm riding a bicycle in the slow lane.

IMHO ANYONE who believes that motorists deserve more respect than
cyclists/pedestrians or that they deserve more convenience or govenment
resources (read "tax money") just because they own and operate private
automobiles has his head screwed on backwards.  In too many respects,
motorists already get a free ride from the rest of us.

As a cyclist (and motorist!)  who obeys traffic laws, I'm frankly pissed
off that Mr. Klorese thinks I have to convert cyclists to perfect
compliance with laws which were written to disadvantage them before
he'll even WORRY about my safety and convenence.

(* flame off! *)

Let's try to be sane about this issue: If govenrnment is going to 
spend money to make motoring more conveneient, let's at least bring
cyclists up to a comparable level of convenience and safety.  Marking
trip wires, and keeping them calibrated so that a bicyle can trip
them would be the MINIMUM!  Special lights for cyclists or laws which
permit cyclists to safely cross the street (e.g. at T-intersections)
against the light can't cost very much compared to what 5-lane freeways
cost to build.

To motorists who bellyache about benefits for cyclists:  Give us a safe,
decent network of bike paths; keep your cars off them, and we'll keep
our bikes off the freeway!
Newsgroups: ba.transportation,ba.politics,ca.environment
From: adrian@ntmtv.UUCP (Adrian Brandt)
Subject: Re: SPUR meeting on SF Transbay Terminal
Keywords: CalTrain extension Transbay Terminal
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:51:20 GMT

In article <1jr143INNh7l@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, fuzzface@cats.ucsc.edu (Aaron Priven) writes:
|> I've written before that I think it makes more sense for Oakland to be
|> the rail hub of the Bay Area;

It's going to be San Jose.  That's where Amtrak will be moving over
the next several years.  A state-of-the-art joint Amtrak/CalTrain
maintenance facility is going to be built near Lick (a couple miles
south of Tamien CalTrain station in San Jose).  It is likely that
Amtrak will extend the Zephyr and San Joaquins to San Jose too.


|> but I doubt high speed rail and light rail could coexist on the same
|> track.  (Different electrification modes, for example.)

Technically, it's quite possible.  FRA regulations and such might have
to be bent/modified a bit.  In Germany, they are now sharing a piece
of DB mainline with light rail equipment that is equipped for dual
voltage running and has the appropriate signalling stuff installed to
ply the mainline.


|> The whole idea of BayLink isn't that likely because a car lane would
|> have to be eliminated; is it likely that *two* lanes would be given up?

One lane on each deck would be converted to rail use.  This issue is
one of the potential "killers"--even though the project can easily be
shown to increase total bridge capacity dramatically.


|> A new rail line up the Peninsula would be very expensive since there
|> are few rights of way, whereas there are several in the East Bay.  

There is one RR right of way running along the peninsula, but for most
of its length, it is wide enough for 4 tracks.  Some parts are a bit
tight, but adding tracks is considered quite "doable".  (All of the
tight spots that come to mind are in San Mateo county.)   Remember
too, that the Dumbarton Bridge rail line is a nice unused right of way
just waiting to be bought for something like $12 million.  It connects
Redwood City/Menlo Park with Fremont/Union City.

-- 

Adrian Brandt (415) 940-2379
UUCP: ...!ames!ntmtv!adrian
ARPA: ntmtv!adrian@ames.arc.nasa.gov
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From: forags@smokey (Al Stangenberger)
Newsgroups: ba.transportation,ba.politics,ca.environment
Subject: Re: SPUR meeting on SF Transbay Terminal
Keywords: CalTrain extension Transbay Terminal
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:59:47 GMT
Organization: U.C. Forestry & Res. Mgt.
NNTP-Posting-Host: smokey.berkeley.edu

In article <1993Jan22.225817.20544@s1.gov> lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes:

>There is the question of how much room there will be at the TT: there
>are four lanes inside, and a CalTrain and a CalSpeed train would
>occupy one lane/track each, and would possibly be long enough to
>occupy some of the access track.
>
For railroad operations, Transbay can (did) support six tracks.  Each of
the three vehicular lanes had two tracks, and some trains loaded from
the left side of the train.

-- 
Al Stangenberger                    Dept. of Forestry & Resource Mgt.
forags@violet.berkeley.edu          145 Mulford Hall - Univ. of Calif.
uucp:  ucbvax!ucbviolet!forags      Berkeley, CA  94720
BITNET: FORAGS AT UCBVIOLE          (510) 642-4424  FAX: (510) 643-5438
From: jim@specialix.com (Jim Maurer)
Newsgroups: ba.transportation
Subject: Re: Pushbuttons at crossings (was Signal Synchronization)
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:48:47 GMT
Organization: Specialix Inc.

rnewman@athena.mit.edu (Ron Newman) writes:

>I've never understood why there is so much emphasis put on getting
>bicycle-friendly detector loops.    I can think of at least two
>approaches that cost less and are better for the bicyclist:

>(a) Put a sign at the intersection reading, "Bicycles Need Not Stop
>At This Light"

>(b) Get your town or city to pass a resolution saying that no municipal
>funds will be spent to enforce any traffic laws against bicyclists.

>In Massachusetts, we effectively have (b).   The result is that
>bicycles can get where they want easily, often faster than cars,
>and no money is spent at all.

Who scoops up the smooshed bicyclists when they go through intersections
without stopping?  And what about the smooshed pedestrians when bicyclists
go barreling through an intersection when pedestrians are crossing?
Come on, there have to been some traffic rules for bicycles, even if
they are just for safety's sake!
Newsgroups: ba.transportation,ba.politics,ca.environment
From: adrian@ntmtv.UUCP (Adrian Brandt)
Subject: Re: SPUR meeting on SF Transbay Terminal
Keywords: CalTrain extension Transbay Terminal
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:25:55 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.021918.3182@s1.gov>, lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes:
|> But there's still a jag from the Bay Bridge to the TBT.

So?  (I'm assuming jag == curve.)  What's your point?

|> >cars run by the Sacramento Northern.  TGV equipment is limited to
|> >17 tons per axle and the TGV locos only weigh 67 tons.  TGV cars are
|> >in the 30 ton range.
|> 
|> 	So a 2-loco, 10-car TGV trainset would weigh about 430 tons.

Yes, doing the math would indicate that. Thanks.  Are you making a point?


|> >There is nothing stopping several 40 ton trucks from driving near each
|> >other on the bridge!
|> 
|> 	But they are only 8 tons/axle if they have 5 axles (standard
|> for 18-wheelers).

The point was that there isn't anything preventing several 40 ton trucks
driving across the bridge together.  You could have 2 or 3 driving near
each other in each direction.  That would be 160 to 240 tons all in
one very short segment of the bridge as the east and west-bound group
of trucks passed over/under one another.  With a TGV trainset, the 430
ton total train weight would be spread out over it's entire length.
Certainly, the weight issue is something that would have to be carefully
researched before any project gets built.  I'm merely arguing that given
that there were two tracks on the lower deck in the 40's with 90 ton
interrurbans passing one another alongside two or three lanes reserved
for trucks and other special traffic, I think it's premature to start
handwringing about how the bridge might not be able to handle the 
TGVs or proposed BayLink equipment.


-- 

Adrian Brandt (415) 940-2379
UUCP: ...!ames!ntmtv!adrian
ARPA: ntmtv!adrian@ames.arc.nasa.gov
From: vamsee@abgen.tamu.edu (Vamsee Lakamsani)
Newsgroups: ba.windows.x
Subject: =======  The Free Widget Foundation(FWF) ======
Date: 21 Jan 1993 03:01:36 GMT
Organization: Center for Macromolecular Design, Texas A&M University.
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: abgen.tamu.edu



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From: dgm@garnet.berkeley.edu (D.G. Meads)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: In the Life
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:52:22 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu


So, did anyone catch the "In the Life" show at around 11:30pm last night
on KQED?

I was quite surprised to see a lesbian/gay show while flipping through the
channels.  Has this been on for awhile and I've just been checked out or
what?

Debbie Meads
Newsgroups: ba.motss,soc.motss
From: michaelk@netcom.com (Michael Kronstadt)
Subject: Rainbow Flag pin
Organization: Abbott Critical Care Systems, Mountain View CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:10:33 GMT

I think this was a thread here or in soc.motss a while back, but of course
I wasn't paying attention ;-)

Can anyone suggest a Peninsula or South Bay place to buy a small rainbow
flag pin or sticker.  (I'm thinking of putting one on my badge for an
upcoming recruiting open-house, though I may well wimp on it.)

Please e-mail me.  I'll post a summary if I get any answers.

Thanks.


-- 
Michael Kronstadt         michaelk@netcom.com                       __o
Abbott Critical Care Systems       ____    "Ride the bike,        _`\<,_
Mountain View, CA                  \  /      ride the bike,      (*)/ (*)
(my opinions, not Abbott's)         \/        ride the bike." -- Fausto Coppi
From: jav@rhiannon.sitka.sun.com (Joyce Vanderpoorten)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: downtown Oakland
Date: 28 Jan 93 19:36:19 GMT
Reply-To: jav@rhiannon.sitka.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: rhiannon.sitka.sun.com


I am native to this area and a long time Oakland resident -
I live right along the lake and I get to enjoy
the necklace of the lights around the lake every evening
from my apartment window.  That string of lights originated
pre WWII but was forced to be turned out furing the blackouts
that came with that war and due to years of neglect were
finally removed.  The Lake Merritt Breakfast Club - a group of
Oakland Business owners raised close to a million dollars 
a few years back to install the original lamp post and that
is what is on display around the lake now - it is a beautiful
sight.

As for restaurants:  Right along the lake is ZZA's - a fine and
very loud Italian Restaurant.  They are very MOTSS friendly.  

I find many great eating establishments in this city and recently
have gotten so involved with diwcovering different neighborhoods
in this beautiful city that I rarely go to SF any more.

Joyce
From: TBECKMAN@cup.portal.com (Tom J Beckman)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: AIDS Research Immuno-Enhancement Study
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 15:21:14 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

         The AIDS Research Immuno-Enhancement Study #2
           Session One: February 26 - March 1, 1993
                Session Two: May 28 - 31, 1993
              Session Three: August 27 - 30, 1993

The Institute of HeartMath is a non-profit educational and 
research organization located in Boulder Creek, CA. HeartMath 
is a process of self-empowerment, mental and emotional self-
management, that has been researched, proven out and 
practiced for more than a decade and is taught in seminar 
format. This study will research the effectiveness of the 
HeartMath system in enhancing immune system function and 
improving the quality of life. Participants will receive 
techniques for self-maintenance of a healthier immune system. 
Guidance will be provided for physical, emotional, mental, 
and spiritual self-healing and well-being. The Institute has 
several projects under way to research the beneficial effects 
that self-generated feelings of love, care and appreciation 
have on the immune system. Your participation will help you 
to:

* Integrate your heart with your mind and emotions to produce
  more balanced and efficient actions and reactions
* Access intuitive intelligence with reliability, not just in
  flashes
* Learn how to listen to and follow your heart
* Empower your system on physical, mental, emotional and
  spiritual levels
* Achieve coherence of your cardio-electricities, resulting
  in inner peace and harmony on all levels

HeartMath researchers have been able to measure, record and 
correlate the human electrical system to different mental and 
emotional states. The research has shown that when 
individuals self-manage their mental and emotional energies, 
it beneficially affects their heart and brain electricities 
which in turn affects hormonal secretions and their 
perceptions of life. The Institute is also involved with the 
development of tonal patterns that appear to harmonically 
link with the DNA to enhance T-cell strength in people with 
AIDS and other immune disorders.

The work of the Institute and its founder, Doc Lew Childre, 
was described in a half-page article in 1/6/93 issue of USA 
Today.

If you would like to participate in Study #2, please call the 
Institute to obtain an application which is due by February 
17, 1993. For more information, call Wendy Rickert or 
Euphrasia Carroll at (408)-338-8700. (Participants must make 
a commitment to attend all three sessions.) 
Newsgroups: ba.motss
From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Subject: Re: downtown Oakland
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 05:45:29 GMT

In article <28550@sybase.sybase.com> black@sybase.com (Chris Black) writes:
>I just made a WONDERFUL discovery in downtown Oakland, so I thought I'd
>share it, and a couple of my other downtown faves, in the interests of

[About the Oakland museum]

>	and give you video snippets of oral history (one of them from a
>	gay rights activist, Serria I think)

Jose Sarria, perhaps?  He's appearing at The Blue Muse on Gough in SF on
Sundays through February. 

>	Th Paramount Theater, Broadway near 20th -- An absolutely
>	astonishing Art Deco movie palace.  Many, though not all,
>	Friday evenings they show a classic film complete with a cartoon
>	and an old newsreel.  Not to be missed!  Motss relevance:
>	camp-a-rama.

You said it, sister. 

>I'd be delighted to hear other folks' recommendations in the area.

Ratto's food market, a few blocks to the (northwest?) of what used to be
the Hyatt.  Lots of interesting groceries, and they sometimes serve meals.
If you like food, or you like to look at food, it's worth a visit. 

-- 

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Jack Hamilton   jfh@netcom.com   P. O. Box 281107   SF, CA   94128-1107
From: rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: downtown Oakland
Date: 28 Jan 93 23:59:01 GMT
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, California

> dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>Chinatown may not count as downtown, but Oakland has a fantabulous
>Burmese restaurant which should not be missed.  I wish I could
>remember its name.

Obmotss: fine Dim Sum can be found at Tin's Tea House (around
10th & Franklin, I think) and Jade Villa (Broadway @ 10th)...
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From: minman@csli.stanford.edu (Michael Inman)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: March in SF: Wed. 1/27
Date: 27 Jan 93 07:10:49 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: CSLI, Stanford University

There will be a march tomorrow (WEDNESDAY, Jan. 27th) from the Castro
in San Francisco to the Veterans' War Memorial on Van Ness (via
Market) to show support for President Clinton's announcement of the
first phase of his plan to repeal the military's ban on homosexuals,
expected tomorrow.

The march will begin at 7:30pm PST.

Please spread the word!

Mike



-- 
Michael Inman
Linguistics Department
From: AT.PLC@forsythe.stanford.edu (PCURRY (415)723-0730)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: SF March This Week on G/L Military Ban?
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:30:58 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <1993Jan26.184642.6567@PacBell.COM>,
rjwill6@pbsdts.sdcrc.pacbell.com (Rod Williams) writes:
>
>I'm hearing rumors that a march and rally are being
>planned for this week in San Francisco to *celebrate*
>the lifting of the G/L military ban -- in the
>expectation that Clinton will actually sign an
>Executive Order some day this week, possibly Thursday.
>What do the organizers know that I don't know?  Has
>anyone else heard anything about this?
>--

Isn't it a bit early to march and rally?  Support, letters, and
phone calls to Congress, the President, and the Pentagon, yes, by
all means.  But this is looking to become a troublesome political
engagement, Executive Order or no, and the anticipated Clinton
action may yet prove Pyrrhic.
From: olmedo@leland.Stanford.EDU (Reynaldo Alberto Olmedo)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: travel certificate (oops)
Date: 27 Jan 93 03:48:44 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA

In article <1993Jan26.002258.4463@netcom.com> jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
>I found, this morning, a travel certificate from Southwest which expires on
>January 31.  It's for $50.  If anyone wants it (free), let me know.  This
>isn't much notice - travel must be completed by January 31, 1993, next
>Monday.  Not the ticket purchase, not the first leg, but the whole thing,
>so this would be for flying to LA for the weekend or something.  
>
>Happily, it didn't cost me anything - it came as part of a promotion they
>were having.  I haven't made it down to LA for a long time.  I might go
>down in April, but by then it will be too late to use the certificate.
>
>If you're interested, leave a message on my answering machine at 415/647-2438.  If you live in San Francisco, Sunnyvale, or points in-between I can drop it
>off. 
>

Gee Jack, what a nice guy.
Newsgroups: ba.motss,soc.motss