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Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: NOTICE:"Bigfoot/Sasquatch" Sightings Request
Date: 14 Sep 1992 03:01:39 GMT
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From: hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Natural snail controls
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:27:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: rigel.1992Sep14.222743.25793
Distribution: rec.gardens
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Sep14.220813.17062@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> jern@visual1.jhuapl.edu (Bob Jernigan) writes:

   [.....]
>have slug farms there.  I supposed many of us have slug farms - they just know
>what to do to prepare them for the sauce. 
>
>Does anyone know how to prepare them?  I'd like to know because I have a slug of
>them.
>
>bob jernigan

   I think they're great just fresh off the plant!

   Wayne
   (with a little sweet and sour sauce)
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From: moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com
Subject: Re: Raccoons in the Corn!
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date:  8 SEP 92 11:46:56    

In article <1992Sep8.144452.7665@ryn.mro4.dec.com>, fease@dkas.enet.dec.com (Andrea Midtmoen Fease) writes...
> 
>     Over the weekend a raccoon hit my corn.  At least I *believe* it was a 
>raccoon - many (about 30) ears had the green sheath ripped down, then two or 
>three rows of corn were eaten.  This corn was just about ready to be picked, 
>in fact I was going to pick it this weekend.  The raccoon (is that what it 
>was???) beat me to it.

I also have problems with racoons in the corn.  My garden is surrounded by a
fence, it just climbed it.  I installed an electric fence on this fence and
it's effective at keeping it out.  Except the one day I forgot to turn it on,
the critter got in and knocked over several stalks and sampled a couple
(rather unripe) ears.

-Mike
From: lindsay@sesame.lbl.gov (Lindsay Schachinger)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Botanical gardens in and around SF
Date: 4 Sep 92 22:46:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: dog.26106
Reply-To: lindsay@sesame.lbl.gov (Lindsay Schachinger)
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley
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In article <Bu2Lvw.Esz@news.orst.edu> listona@bionette.CGRB.ORST.EDU (Aaron Liston) writes:
>The Berkeley Botanic Garden and the Strybing Arboretum are must
>see gardens.. 

Actually, there are two botanic gardens in Berkeley. One is the
UC Botanic Garden in Strawberry Canyon east of campus. This is an
international garden, with plants from all over the world. The
other, and to me more interesting, one is the Tilden Park Botanic
Garden which is devoted to California native plants. 

Lindsay


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From: bednarek@picard.med.ge.com (Dennis Bednarek Mfg 4-6971)
Subject: Cookbook
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 07:01:36 GMT


With all the cooking, canning instructions maybe we should dedicate this
board to recipies, and start posting the gardening info on the cookbook
boards.  It starts getting a hassle when you only have limited time to 
review a board and most of the articles are on another subject then what
the board is about.  Don't you think all the recipies should be on a
different board?

Dennis


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From: Lawrence.London@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Lawrence London)
Subject: Re: Naturalism---could we have a group?
Summary: alt.naturalist, alt.sustainable.agriculture 
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: rec.gardens
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 17:59:18 GMT

In article <VSUMMERS.92Sep7092233@polaris.cv.nrao.edu> vsummers@polaris.cv.nrao.edu (Vince Summers) writes:
>     This is probably not the place to ask the subject question, but then
>I don't know proper procedure.
[controversial text deleted and hopefully forgotten & forgiven by all in
the interest of forming this interesting new newsgroup :-)]
>     Not one to wildflowers, birds, trees, naturalism (I think).
>We have chem and mol bio, but have you gone out and admired the chem or mol bio
>of plants on a sunny day?  Couldn't someone, perhaps from rec.gardens(?)
>who is familiar with the computer system, has the interest if not the knowledge,
>and who has the time, pursue this for us?  Not legal efforts at environmental
>control.  There is already a sci.environment.  Politics, etc., needn't
>be a part.  That could be up to the one initiating the group, of course.
>Please think about it.
Great idea and hopefully as good as done. I will, if there are no
strenuous objections, originate alt.sustainable.agriculture. One of
my host systems will be doing the technical part. I will submit a
proposal/mission statement. I think that it would be possible to
start alt.naturalist (or alt.naturalism, if you prefer; I was hoping to
avoid any connection with naturism with this name change). If you
and/or someone else will e-mail me a proposal/mission statement to submit
in alt.config (at some point discussion of pros & cons of the newsgroup
should be crossposted or followed-up to alt.config.) I will start the ball
rolling. There will soon be alt.herbalism which might be of interest to
folks here. 
I will crosspost my comments on these 2 new groups to rec.gardens,
misc.rural, alt.co-evolution and alt.config. There has been expressed
support for alt.herbalism and alt.sustainable.agriculture (for all you 
organic gardening and farming enthusiasts) thus far and I am sure there
will be same for alt.naturalist.

Comments?

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From: cusanell@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Dominic Cusanelli)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: freezing pesto
Date: 9 Sep 92 10:48:44 GMT
Reply-To: cusanell@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Dominic Cusanelli)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

FREEZING PESTO (AND KEEPING ITS COLOR):

As I wrote before - freezing complete pesto in good tupperware or
any brand of tight sealing containers - helps to keep the
pesto in good shape and consistant color.  A few years back, I
would also freeze pesto in whatever discarded plastic containers
I had around (butter, cool whip, deli, etc.) but the pesto
always ended up with frost on it - a "freezer taste" - and a
loss of color.  So I got a large set of pint-sized tupperware
(12 of them) and I'm going to by more.
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From: hertzber@spot.Colorado.EDU (HERTZBERG JEAN R)
Subject: Asparagus xplant? 
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:26:08 GMT

I started some asparagus from seed this year. I know that I should
dig them up, and replant them in a ditch, and gradually fill in
the ditch as they grow, but when should I replant them? Now, in the
fall, or early next spring? BTW, I live at 7000 feet in the Rockies,
so the ground does freeze.

-Jean H
hertzber@spot
From: tching@target.water.ca.gov (Tracy Ching <SysAdmin>)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Anyone at UC Davis know where I can get a Ph test for my soil?
Date: 8 Sep 92 05:25:44 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: California State University, Sacramento


	I'm in Sacto so somewhere close would be nice.  Also, what is the
$$$ for such a service?  Please e-mail... Thanks.
tching@water.ca.gov
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From: bednarek@picard.med.ge.com (Dennis Bednarek Mfg 4-6971)
Subject: Re: Sod 'gaps'
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 06:42:13 GMT

Duane Jacobson (duanej@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM) wrote:
: >I've recently moved into a house with new sod. Lots of water and sunshine
: >later, it seems to be doing very well - except for large (typ. 1") gaps between
: >many of the
: >'sheets' of sod. I'm wondering what I can do to fill these in (if anything). I
: >was thinking about pouring a nice topsoil mix into these gaps and hoping the
: >grass will grow in, how does that sound?
: 
: Sounds like a good plan to me.  The grass will fill in pretty quickly.
You might want to add a little seed if the bare areas have any size to them.
that will speed things up a bit.
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Subject: Re: Deer vs. lilacs?
From: kguyre@cabell.vcu.edu (Kenneth C. Guyre)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:51:10 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Virginia Commonwealth University

rogerv@sco.COM (Roger Vortman) writes:


>What has been the experience of folks with deer eating or not
>eating lilac bushes?  I have just planted a lilac bush, and am
>wondering if I need to sit up nights to shoo the deer away from 
>it...

I don't know if deer will eat lilacs or not but if you are concerned,
do what we do with our roses (deer do eat them).  Spread some human
hair around the base and the deer will stay away.  You can usually
pick some up at a hairdressers or a barber shop.
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From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: cheese in frozen pesto?
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:59:31 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

> In article <1992Sep9.204512.772@calmasd.prime.com>, jhb@calmasd.prime.com (Jim Bishop) writes:
> |> One final question, is there anybody that reads this news group that
> |> doesn't grow basil and make pesto?

I grow basil, hate pesto, and give mine away (assuming the whitefly
doesn't carry it off ahead of harvest).  I'd much sooner have a nice
alfredo sauce without that stinky basil!  (And I grew up in an
Italian neighborhood!)          --Kay
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Sensitive plants (fire fern)
Date: 8 Sep 92 00:57:54 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <79031@ut-emx.uucp>, gene@shallot.ots.utexas.edu writes:
> I have a plant I was told is called a fire fern. It has red/orange  
> leaves a little smaller than a dime and an occasional yellow flower.  
> Its about 7 inches tall right now ( I got a 4 inch cutting 5 months ago  
> ) and has around 50 leaves. It too will close (fold down) its leaves  
> when touched anywhere. It also folds its leaves down at night. Its neat  
> to touch a stem and watch 2-3 seconds later for leaves on various parts  
> of the plant fold down. The leaves are more diamond shaped than heart  
> shaped. Anyone know anything about this plant?

Offhand, sounds like an oxalis, which also will close its leaves
at night... Are the leaves composed of 3 or 4 leaflets that are
+/- heart shaped, with the leaf stalk essentially emerging from the
soil?  Are the flowers tubular or bell-shaped, and with the petals
fused together like a petunia, rather than separate like a rose?

Other possibility is Biophytum sensitivum, but it has once pinnately
compound leaves, with narrow leaflets.

Kay
From: fease@dkas.enet.dec.com (Andrea Midtmoen Fease)
Subject: Re: Raccoons in the Corn!
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp., Marlboro MA
Date: 11 SEP 92 12:59:09    


     Thank you everyone for responses and e-mail.  Although a few people
suggested radios left on at night or interplanting, the majority suggested (and
said they had success) with an electric fence.  I've priced one around here at
about $100 - too much for me to afford now and a little late in the season. 
But ... I have all winter to save up ;^) !

     As for the previous post that suggested that I remove attacked ears
(sorry, can't remember your name), I had an interesting thing happen.  After
the first attack, I removed all damaged ears (I keep a clean garden, so there
is no debris).  That night I was hit again.  This time, instead of removing the
damaged ears, I left everything as it was.  I think I've been hit once, but the
damage was to already-damaged ears, not new ones!  Last night I found *3* ripe
ears which I prompted harvested before my little "friend" could come back.  So
for the moment I'm leaving the damaged ears, which look terrible and some of
which have bugs in them (yuck!), but so far the remaining ears are being left
alone.

     By the way, I've also had two butternut squash disappear.  Don't know if 
it was the raccoon (there's a lot of space between leaves so that prickly 
leaves need not be stepped on), a woodchuck or groundhog or perhaps even a 
human pest.  Again, a couple days before being perfect :-( .

     Thanks again for all of the wonderful help!

					- Andrea
From: frosty@med.unc.edu (Steve Loechel)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Grape Hyacinths
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:37:19 GMT
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine

In article <22517@nntp_server.ems.cdc.com> joannek@ems.cdc.com writes:
>
>Three or four years ago I planted a bunch (total about 60 bulbs from 2 sources)
>of grape hyacinth (Muscari).  They are planted in group of 10-15 bulbs in
>several different spots in my garden.  The first spring leaves appeared but no
>flowers.  The leaves stayed green for a long time (longer than my other bulbs,
>tulips, daffs, crocus) then finally died back.  The next spring when the snow 
>melted ther were mats of new leaves(about 4-8 inches long each) under the snow
>as it melted.  They bloomed later that spring.  They then died back (again 
>later than other bulbs) and towards fall sent up leaves again.  These leaves
>remained throughout the winter and eventually the following (late) spring they
>bloomed.

This is not unusual behavior for grape hyacinths. Most of mine act the
same way, although different varieties start sending their leaves up at
different times in the fall or early winter. I also grow a variety of
daffodil that sends its leaves up in the fall instead of waiting for
spring like all "normal" daffodils do. I panicked the first time this
happened, because I figured the winter temperatures would destroy the
leaves. Ha! This daffodil scoffs at winter temperatures. I've learned not
to be surprised when plants do not conform to human expectations. Just as
I don't demand that all humans conform to what "right-thinking" people
think they should be. I, for example, prefer to use strapping tape with my
hamsters, but I don't look down on you people who use duct tape. You just
don't know what you're missing.

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Date: Tue,  8 Sep 1992 10:13:45 -0400 
From: Linda_Walmer@transarc.com
Subject: freezing pesto



I have an abandance of basil in my garden.  We decided to learn to make
pesto this year, and someone told us we needed a lot of basil.  So, we planted
A LOT!  Anyway, I was told that I could make pesto without the cheese added,
and then freeze it in ice cube trays.  Then during the winter, I could
add the cheese and presto, pesto.  Has anyone tried this?  Do I thaw the
cubes?  to room temp?  before adding the cheese.  How long are these cubes
good?

Thanks,
Linda
From: das@voodoo.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: More (hot) pepper questions
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:08:25 GMT
Organization: Yet Another Graphics Project, Bellevue, WA

In article <6889@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM> thomase@tekig5.pen.tek.com writes:
>In a previous post to this topic, Judy Karpen asked if there would
>be any interest in a gardening newsgroup. I tried to respond directly
>to Judy but the mail bounced back. I would like to see such a group,
>perhaps rec.gardening and if there was enough interest then maybe 
>the subgroup that Judy suggest could be rec.gardening.organic.
>
There already is a gardening newgroup called rec.gardens.
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From: tony@nexus.yorku.ca (Anthony Wallis)
Subject: Re: Raccoons in the Corn!
Organization: York University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:13:53 GMT

One recommendation is a radio (battery-powered, inside a plastic bag)
tuned to an all-night lots-of-talk station.

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From: chrisda@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (David Christensen)
Subject: Re: morning glory seeds
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 05:13:30 GMT
From: Bob.Batson@mtask.omahug.org (Bob Batson)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: What is Beifuss?
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:11:02 CST
Reply-To: bob.batson@mtask.omahug.org
Organization: Multitasking Systems, Kansas City
Followup-To: rec.gardens

bobw@csg.uwaterloo.ca (Bob Wildfong) writes:

 > I was looking through a 1907 Ontario Seed Company catalogue and
 > found a vegetable listed as "Beifuss".  Just one line of print, no named
 > varieties, no description, no picture.

According to my reprint of the English-language version of _The Vegetable
Garden_ by Vilmorin-Andrieux (1885), "Beifuss" is the German word for
Mugwort (Artemisia vulgaris).

  "Native of Europe---Perennial.---An exceedingly hardy plant, forming very
long-lived tufts or clumps. Leaves dark green on the upper surface, whitish
underneath, pinnate, with oval-lanceolate segments, the lower ones stalked,
the stem-leaves sessile and auricled; stems from 2 to over 3 ft. high,
reddish and furrowed; flower-heads small, greenish, in large, erect,
pyramidal, irregular clusters on the ends of the stems and branches; seed
very small, oblong, grayish, and smooth. A gramme contains about 8000 seeds
and a litre of them weighs about 600 grammes. Their germinating power lasts
for three years. CULTURE.---Exactly the same as that of Wormwood (see
Wormwood). USES.---The leaves have a strong, bitter, aromatic taste, and
are sometimes used for seasoning."


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From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Saving Tuberous Begonias
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:07:18 -0500
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

gwb@cbnews.cb.att.com (gregory.blum) writes about tuberous begonias:
> However, I've begun to wonder what (if anything) can be done to
> carry them over the winter.  Do you dry them out and/or dig up the
> tubers (ala dahlias, glads, etc.)? 

You can.  I usually just drag the pots inside after frost and
let them dry off down in the basement.  I water every couple
of months or so, just to prevent total dessiccation.

> Can I just keep them growing all year by dragging them indoors and 
> making room at my already crowded windowsills?  

You can, but doesn't sound like you want to...   ;-)

>Do I quit fertilizing soon?

Yep.  Preferably when night temps dip into the 45oF range.  But this
has been a strange year, and your begonias may be a bit more cold-hardened
than usual already 

> How cool of nights can they stand without and adverse effects (we're 
> already getting some upper 40s here in central Ohio)?

Tops seem to freeze on mine when it gets about 30, whether or not
I've remembered to drop an old bedspread over them...  I usually let
the tops frost before I bring them in, but if the first freeze of
the season comes as one of those Canadian Arctic Surprise Presents
(temps fall from high 30's for lows to 15o!), you may lose the tubers.

Kay Klier
From: louiset@informix.com (Louise Twiggs)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Natural snail controls
Date: 15 Sep 92 09:44:54 GMT
Distribution: rec.gardens
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <2538@cronos.metaphor.com> falcao@felix.metaphor.com (Ronnie Falcao) writes:
>In article <1992Sep11.231518.6133@rigel.econ.uga.edu> hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes) writes:
>>   Obnaturalism:  I found a DeKay's snake, or little brown snake,
>>   _Storeria dekayi_ (at least it was years ago, maybe it's changed?)
>>   while digging out for a pond.  One of my favorites, I used to
>>   keep them as a kid.  Eats SNAILS and SLUGS!
>>
>>   Wayne
>
>Eats SNAILS and SLUGS!?!  Really!?!  Gophers, too?  :-)
>
>What are other natural snail and slug controls?  I've heard
>of ducks or geese, and copper, but the snake's new for me.
>

Hedgehogs are really good at slug control because 1. It's their favourite
food (my best friend's a hedgehog, and he has some great recipies for
slug souffle) and 2. They eat at night when the slugs are out partying.

So try and encourage hedgehogs (not easy).

>I live on the southern end of the San Francisco peninsula.
>Could I keep a DeKay's snake?  Given that someone else
>mentioned that they eat earthworms, do they have a net
>benefit or detriment in the garden?  Would the snake and
>my cats bother each other?
>
>Thanks,
>Ronnie
>
>falcao@metaphor.com


Louise
From: dmiller@theory.lcs.mit.edu (Dick and Jill Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Basil & Pesto
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:16:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: mintaka.1992Sep10.181606.18769
Organization: Laboratory for Computer Science, MIT

>
>One final question, is there anybody that reads this news group that
>doesn't grow basil and make pesto?
>
>Jim

I have never made pesto.  Used to grow basil, but the surrounding trees 
(not on my land) have grown too high and I don't get enough sun for 
veggies. :'(

--Jill
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