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From: wlodek@forwiss.uni-erlangen.de (Wlodzimierz Kasprzak)
Subject: Re: Czy nie dosc ? 
Organization: FORWISS, Uni Erlangen, Germany
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 08:39:11 GMT

In article <gapmfw_@lynx.unm.edu> osinski@chtm.eece.unm.edu (Marek Osinski) writes:
>In article <Bs5n02.Ly0@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> wlodek@forwiss.uni-erlangen.de (Wlodzimierz Kasprzak) writes:
>>
>>Osobiscie juz mnie panie Marku zniecheciles do s.c.p. 
>
>Nie zniechecaj sie za szybko. Ja tez musze pracowac ;-) 
>To tylko taki chwilowy pik mojej aktywnosci na s.c.p.
>
>A co Ty bys chcial widziec na s.c.p.? Coz stoi na przeszkodzie, abys
>zainicjowal temat, ktory Cie interesuje? A moze ktos go podchwyci?
>
Polityka jest dziedzina, ktora dzieli ludzi. Natomiast my wszyscy, ktorzy
czytamy i piszemy do s.c.p. w jezyku POLSKIM, stanowimy element polskiej
kultury. W obliczu swiata narodow powinnismy szukac dla siebie tematow,
ktore nas, ludzi polskiej narodowosci lub nalezacych do kregu polskiej
kultury, lacza a nie dziela. 
Jezeli juz mamy dyskutowac cos politycznego, to moze wydyskutujmy droge,
ktora pozwoli Polakom w Polsce zachowac niepodleglosc a Polakom w swiecie
zajac wazne miejsce w zyciu ich spoleczenstw. 
Czego ja sie w Polsce najbardziej obawiam, to obok strajkow jest nim
zaleznosc naszej polityki od roznych grup interesu. Nie boje
sie przy tym w pierwszej kolejnosci komuny,  ale np. mafii wloskiej
czy kokainowego syndykatu. Te przestepcze organizacje dysponuja taka
sila ekonomiczna, ze sa w stanie opanowac w Polsce najwazniejsze urzedy
panstwowe. 

Wlodek Kasprzak
From: marek@masg1.epfl.ch (Marek Swierkosz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: Re>Re: LSCC - Sprawozdanie
Date: 21 Jul 92 10:07:55 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

In article <1992Jul21.085010.17717@fzi.de>, tomaszunas@fzi.de (Jacek Tomaszunas) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul20.134851@masg1.epfl.ch>, marek@masg1.epfl.ch (Marek Swierkosz) writes:
|> > 
|> > Polecam rowniez uwadze Sz. Prezydium klubu muzeum Karola Marksa w Trewirze
|> > (Trier, D). 
|> 
|> 
|> To calkiem niedaleko ode mnie. Zarezerwowac hotel? Poza tym slyszalem
|> ze Trier jest bardzo starym i ciekawym miastem.

Niezaleznie od Muzeum Karola Marksa wszystkim (nawet wrogom klubu) bardzo
polecam Trier - fenomenalne zabytki rzymskie, m.in ogromna bazylika z IV w
i inne b. stare koscioly, termy rzymskie itd. Poza tym b. ladne okolice i
wina mozelskie. Moze na necie jest ktos z rodakow z Trieru i mialby cos wiecej
do powiedzenia ?

|> Moze poprosic Fidela Castro albo Deng Xiaopinga (Chiny) o finansowe
|> wsparcie? Mysle ze ci starzy, ( parszywi?, bez szkieletu?-to pytanie
|> do Jacka) komunisci rozplacza sie z radosci, jak sie dowiedza, ze 
|> ich wrog na smierc i zycie (JJT) przyczynil sie do powstania
|>  nowej partii? :-)

Dla uzupelnienia Trojcy Swietej proponuje tow. Kim Ir Sena (ostatnio zdaje sie
trzeba pisac Kim Il Sung) z Korei. Ten jest zdaje sie pierwszym kandydatem
do fundowania czegokolwiek (przynajmniej symbolicznie). Np. tablice pamiatkowa
na slynnej pagodzie: "Towarzystwo popierania Dzu-Czeizmu im. Jacka 
Tuszynskiego".

Pozdrowienia
                Marek
Marek Swierkosz
Dept.de Mathematiques
Politechnika Federalna, Lozanna, CH
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: jjt@aristotle.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Jack Tuszynski)
Subject: Re: Poland-L
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, NASA/Caltech
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:47:14 GMT


This my friends:
 
>I am not sure we should simply ignore this, as suggested by Pawel Gburzynski.
>It can make Tuszynski believe there is a silent majority which agrees with
>him. I repeat my proposal to take a vote whether he should be left on
>PLEARN-L.
 
>JSB

Is the reason that I stopped writing to PLEARN-L about one year ago in the
first place.  JSB as you have seen in his last posting, was a professor
in Poland since 1963.  I beleive that is what he said in his last posting.  
He must have been red to be in the university at that time.  Although I cannot 
blame him, maybe I would have done as he did if I wanted to keep my job then,
nevertheless, now he should step aside and be quiet.  

As for Zaraska.  The topic of Zaraska (communist mafia) is very extremely
relevent to this list.  The question is whether in a few years, high technology
in Poland is going to be %100 controled by the communist old guard.  So what
could that have to do with a construction company?  After all Zaraska used
the money he stole back in the good old days of the old boy network to buy
himself Exbud, the old Construction company in Kielce.  It could have alot
to do with computers and high tech if that construction company is involved
in technology park and Polish Silicon valley type ventures.  Zaraska's 
company is involved in joint ventures to the order of $500,000,000 near
Szczecin.  This man is going to own all of our butts.  Your butts that is,
I work for JPL in the good ol USA.  
>I am most of the time part of the silent majority who read and learn from
>PLEARN.  I do not believe that anybody should be silenced because of what
>they say is silly or offensive: the punishment outweighs the offence.
>Perhaps I'm speaking for the silent majority when once and for all I say
>NO to deleting ANYONE from this list, as it says in St John, I think:
>jezeli zle powiedzialem, udowodnij ze zle, a jesli dobrze, czemu mnie bijesz?
>(if I spoke amiss cite it in evidence against me, if aright, why strikest
>thou me?)
>Jerzy Kirakowski

>I would concur with Mr. Kirakowski's opinion.  I feel very uneasy about
>a decision to exclude someone on the basis that he or she is
>"obnoxious," particularly when the decision is taken on the basis of
>some kind of informal poll of whomever happens to be standing around.
>Bob Scott
 
Thank you for your support.  You know, I used to like Bien.  For my master's
in Comp Sci several years ago, I used his book Prolog for Programmers.  The
best in its field.  But now I feel otherwise, and I'll restrain myself
from saying how on the network.
From: osinski@chtm.eece.unm.edu (Marek Osinski)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: Ktora partia lepsza? (Bylo: Re: Komuna)
Date: 30 Jul 92 03:00:12 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <84660@netnews.upenn.edu> kkniaz@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Krzysztof W. Kniaz) uradowal moje serce piszac:
>
>Dzieki za cytat Szczypiorskiego, jesli sie z nim zgadzasz, to mozna
>powiedziec, ze doszlismy do porozumienia...

Tak, zgadzam sie z nim. Milo od czasu do czasu dojsc do porozumienia...
>
>Pytanie: ile kosztuje prenumerata GW i jak wywiazuja sie z przesylek?

Nie prenumeruje, niestety, przywiozlem tylko kilkanascie gazet ze soba.
Juz wkrotce zrobia sie nieaktualne i przestane sie wymadrzac, a zaczne
sluchac :-)

Marek Osinski
From: kkniaz@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Krzysztof W. Kniaz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: Zapominanie i przebaczanie (Re: Komuna)
Date: 25 Jul 92 21:20:07 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Jul25.164847.6345@newsroom.bsc.no> henryk@bsc.no (Henryk Modzelewski) writes:

>Czy mozecie mi wylumaczyc co zlego jest w SWIADOMYM zapomnieniu i przebaczeniu.

Oczywiscie NIC, moim zdaniem nalezy bezwarunkowo karac przestepstwa
(prosze o wybaczenie, za te banaly ale Marek bardzo uwaza na szczegoly,
zeby nie powiedziec, czepia sie za slowa) w oparciu o istniejace prawa,
a nie tworzyc prawnicze lapsusy i karac wstecznie. Jesli sadzimy, ze
byla nomenklatura uwila sobie rozkoszne gniazdka w "czerwonych" bankach
i spolkach to czemu nie sprawdzic pochodzenia funduszy? Czemu , korzystajac
z poczatkowej przewagi w parlamencie rzad Olszewskiego nie skoncentrowal sie
na zwalczaniu przestepczosci gospodarczej? Czy slyszelismy o nowej
specjalnej komisji badajacej fundusze spolek i bankow?

Dotarly do nas peany na roztropnosc min. Glapinskiego, ktory
ukrocil byl afery przemytnicze ... powracajac do systemu nakazow i
laskawego rozdzialu. Czy to jest droga do nowoczesnej gospodarki - 
rozdzielanie koncesji wg biurokratucznego widzi mi sie?

>Jak juz mnie zniszczycie na powyzszy temat to osmiele sie zapytac:
>co ma wspolnego walka polityczna czy odwet ze sprawiedliwoscia?
>
>Henryk.
>PS. Oczywiscie nie oczekuje odpowiedzi w sylu: Te SUCKER.

Naturalnie, ze NIC. Jednak strona tymczasowo zwycieska (tzn PC/ZChN)
motywowala swoje dojscie do wladzy glownie wyzszoscia moralna, a nie
przewaga programow (takowych nie majac), czy zrecznoscia w walce propagandowej
(wstydzac sie przyznac). Niestety potem oboz rzadowy probowal swoja
polityczna teze u d o w o d n i c tracac mnostwo czasu i srodkow ... i to
go zgubilo....

BTW wyzszosci moralnej "olszewiakow" nad "udekami": Marek przeciwstawil
trzy anonimy telefoniczne z "Gazety Wyborczej" listowi z "Nowego Swiata" i
zakonkludowal zwyciestwo moralne zwolennikow Olszowskiego! 
Zwroc uwage Marku ,ze to bron obosieczna: mozna przeciez przedstawic
felieton lub list Szczypiorskiego obok szemranej antysemickiej propagandy,
w ktorej zwolennicy PC celuja. I jakby ten "moralny" triumf wygladal?

Sucker
--

Krzysztof Kniaz, University of Pennsylvania | If you can't learn  
Lab for Research on the Structure of Matter | to do it well,
Philadelphia, PA, 19104, USA                | learn to enjoy doing it badly.
From: "peter karwowski" <peter.karwowski@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: polskie nagrania / po
Date: 30 Jul 92 01:05:49 EST
Reply-To: "peter karwowski" <peter.karwowski@canrem.com>
Distribution: soc
Organization: Canada Remote Systems


RR>For some time now, I've been reading the articles in this newsgroup.
RR>Incidentally, I was surprised when I saw that you were writing in Polish.
RR>I didn't expect this because the Polish alphabet differs from the English.
RR>Despite this, you manage somehow.

While I'm reasonably fluent speaking the language, I've never felt
particularly comfortable writing in it.  Although reading this
newsgroup has given me a good taste of the written language, I'm
afraid I'll pick up a ton of bad/wrong habits because of the
limitations of ASCII -- oh well.  Better to have it wrong than not
have it at all.

RR>In any case, I have a favour to ask of you.  I hope that one of can help me.
RR>I am looking for Polish recording on CD.  For example: Mazowsze, Slask,
RR>polkas (in Polish), and various other Polish songs.  (In particular artists
RR>like Eddy B., John Gora, etc).  I can't find anything in the stores in
RR>Toronto or Waterloo.  Do any of you know where I can buy or order such
RR>recordings ?

I have found virtually nothing in the stores either in the Kitchener-
Waterloo area or in Toronto.  The few CDs I have found are outrageously
overpriced!  The only place I've seen any decent selection is Ruda's
record store in Buffalo, NY.
 
For example, I picked up a a copy of the Mazowsze "Ukochany Kraj" CD
(and they did a nice job of re-mastering the old recordings) for
about $15 in Buffalo while the price for the same CD in Toronto 
(at Sam the Record Man) was $38!  

I can understand paying slightly more but that's outrageous.
 
Buffalo is the only place I've seen contemporary polka recordings
readily available.  You may, however, try calling John Gora at
directly to see if he has anything.  He has a daily radio programme
on 530 CIAO weeknights at 7:30  (with polkas on Thursday)
 
I usually manage to make it down to the U.S. several times a year
and make a point of hitting the stores in Buffalo to stock up.
 
Na Zdrowie,

Peter W. Karwowski     USENET:   peter.karwowski@canrem.com
Kitchener, Ontario     INTERNET: peter.karwowski%canrem.uucp@lsuc.on.ca
Canada                 UUCP:     canrem!peter.karwowski

 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #1974 * ...your mileage may vary
--
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World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: fmhv@minerva.inesc.pt (Fernando Manuel Vasconcelos)
Subject: Re: Pub em transmissoes desportivas
Organization: INESC, Lisboa, Portugal
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:45:22 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.124252.1656@inesc.pt> rgc@eniac.inesc.pt (Rui Gustavo Crespo) writes:


>Hoje de tarde, a equipa portuguesa de hoquei em patins joga contra a Italia.

Jogou e perdeu 2-5  :-( :-(

-- 
Fernando Manuel Hourtiguet de Vasconcelos ( INESC ) 
Email:  fmhv@inesc.inesc.pt  Phone: +351 (1) 3100216 Fax: +351(1)525843 
Adress: Rua Alves Redol No 9, sala 208 Apartado 10105 
	1017 Lisboa CODEX - Portugal 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.portuguese
From: rgc@eniac.inesc.pt (Rui Gustavo Crespo)
Subject: Pub em transmissoes desportivas
Originator: rgc@eniac.inesc.pt
Organization: INESC - Inst. Eng. Sistemas e Computadores, LISBOA. PORTUGAL.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 12:42:52 GMT

From: lp1w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Luis Pessoa-Brandao)

> Uma pergunta para as pessoas em Portugal sobre a cobertura dos jogos na
> televisao.
...

>E para acabar, o que e que se passa com os anuncios. De cinco em cinco
> minutos, ou com menos frequencia?

Felizmente com menos frequencia (valor tipico 30 min.), embora continue a
ser demasiado para o meu gosto (>100 anos ja' seria melhor!).

Aproveito esta "deixa" para referir duas noticias `acerca da pub inserida
no meio da transmissao dos jogos olimpicos.

(1) Na TV Senegalesa tb cortam a transmissao com anuncios. O azar foi terem
inserido "spots" publicitarios na altura em que a equipa senegalesa entrava
no Estadio Olimpico na abertura dos jogos.
Como desculpa, a TV do Senegal afirmou que um atentado em Espanha tinha
interrompido temporariamente a transmissao!

(2) Nos jogos olimpicos de Montreal, Carlos Lopes conseguiu uma medalha de
prata na corrida de 10 mil metros. So' que, durante a entrega das medalhas, a
transmissao foi interrompida para a !*%#\ (os caracteres foram censurados)
publicidade!

O corte inconveniente das transmissoes e' um dos (muitos) motivos pelos quais
eu sou ferozmente contra a publicidade comercial.

======================================

Hoje de tarde, a equipa portuguesa de hoquei em patins joga contra a Italia.

All the best...

---Crespo
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.portuguese
From: ma@fct.unl.pt (Manuel Arcangelo)
Subject: De maneira diferente.
Organization: Universidade Nova de Lisboa, PORTUGAL
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:38:43 GMT

Ja' que tem surgido algumas anedotas na SCP, aqui vai
mais uma:

Um fulano* chega a casa `a noite e diz para a mulher:

- "Maria, hoje vai ser de maneira diferente!"

- "De maneira diferente? O que e' que queres dizer
   com isso, homem?"

- "Sei la'... hoje pode ser na orelha."

- "Na orelha nao, homem, que eu ainda fico surda."

- "Ora essa, ve la' se alguma vez ficaste muda!"

--

*leia-se um elemento das tradicionais minoria etnicas
 que se costuma ridicularizar nas anedotas, como por
 exemplo os ... ou os ..., ou ainda os ... !

===================================================================

                                  --- Manuel Arcangelo
					
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From: sldf3@io.ee.usu.edu (beal weston r)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.portuguese
Subject: Re: Receita do Caldo Verde
Keywords: receita sopa caldo verde
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:45:50 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.portuguese
Organization: Utah State University

In article <24023@castle.ed.ac.uk>, emct53@castle.ed.ac.uk (T Matias) writes:
|> Aqui vai agora para todos e completo tudo o que eu sei sobre o caldo
|> verde.
|> 
|> Se houver mais algo a acrescentar nao hesitem e... bom apetite!
|> 
|> Teresa.
|> 
|> --- snip, snip, snip ---------------------------------------------------
|> 
|>                      *** CALDO VERDE ***
|> 
|> Ingredientes (para 4 ou 5 pessoas?):
|> 
|>   180-200g de couve galega cortada em caldo verde (juliana muito
|> fininha)

I've never been able to find couve galega in Logan, Utah, but we use a variety
of other things that work well.  Try  Collard greens, or Chard.

|>   1 cebola
|>   2 dentes de alho
|>   600g de batatas
|>   rodelas de chourica vermelha (chourico de carne)

Finding chourico is another problem.  Try just a little bit of pepperoni.  It's
not the same, but the effect is good.

|>   2 colheres de sopa de azeite


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.portuguese
From: cmsa@eniac.inesc.pt (Carlos Azevedo)
Subject: Re: opera
Organization: INESC - Inst. Eng. Sistemas e Computadores, LISBOA. PORTUGAL.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 11:38:08 GMT

In article <QeRIrdC00Vp842ykcN@andrew.cmu.edu> js56+@andrew.cmu.edu (Joao M. Soares) writes:
>alguem me sabe dizer alguma coisa sobre 
>a opera "the voyage" do philip glass?
>
>a estreia e dia 12 de outubro no met.
>para quem quer bilhetes o telefone e o (212)362-6000.
>os precos sao $20-$135
>
>joao soares

Joao Soares volta a escrever no SCP. Bem vindo de novo ao grupo...

Carlos Azevedo
From: ja2v+@andrew.cmu.edu (Joao S Albuquerque)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.portuguese
Subject: Pittsburgh, Independente
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:23:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.wePqaXW00Uh706PVhx
Organization: Doctoral student, Chemical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

1) Pittsburgh:

Acabo de voltar de Portugal com os sguintes CD's:
- O Lusitano (aquele com o Vasco da Gama na capa). Portuguese
vilancetes,cantigas and romances.
- Fados e baladas de Coimbra.
- O meu bandolim de Julio Pereira
- GNR. Rock in rio douro.
- Madredeus. Existir.

Quem viver em Pittsburgh e estiver com vontade de os ouvir e so apitar
que tenho todo o gosto em empresta-los. Recomendo o Lusitano, que e
musica medieval. Ate tem uma sobre D.Sebastiao (sim,o maluco que nos
tramou por ter levado uma carga de porrada dos mouros).

Vivo na CMU, Doherty Hall 3104 ,Telef 268 2245.

2) Independente:

Volto a escrever os resumos do Independente depois dos meu exames
qualificativos orais (meados de Agosto). Pelo facto a que sou alheio,
apresento as minhas desculpas (desculpa a la RTP).


Yours  Joao.
From: abreu@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Abreu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.portuguese
Subject: Bater em mulheres, hoje em dia, e' um acto de coragem ;-)
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:32:30 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London



E Deus criou Adao. E Adao passeando um dia pelo Paraiso, sentiu-se
solitario, e pediu a Deus que lhe desse companhia.

- "Crio uma mulher para ti" disse Deus, "Ela ha-de cozinhar, e limpar
   e fazer tudo que lhe pec,as. Ela ha'-de adorar-te de joelhos. Sera'
   tao linda que nao vais conseguir tirar os olhos dela. Mas vai
   custar-te os olhos da cara..."

E Adao respondeu:

- "Bem, e por uma costela arranjas-me o que^, pa'?"

____________________

Um casal esta' na cama:

- "Sao muito pequenos." diz ela, "Gostava de ter uns seios maiores."
- "Pega em papel higienico e esfrega-os."
- "Papel higienico? Que e' que isso faz?"
- "Nao sei, mas ve^ o que te fez ao traseiro."

____________________

Quatro irmas vao 'a confissao. A primeira confessa ter tocado as partes
sexuais de um homem com a mao direita. O padre, embaracado, diz-lhe que
lave a mao na agua benta, e reze cinquenta Ave'-Marias. A segunda irma
entra no confessionario e confessa-se:

- "Peco o seu perdao, padre, mas penso que errei porque tive o penis
   de um homem na minha mao esquerda."
   
O padre, ja' ligeiramente zangado, diz-lhe:

- "Vai lavar a mao esquerda na agua benta, e rezar cem Pai-Nossos."

Vendo isto, a quarta irma diz 'a terceira:

- "Confesso-me antes de ti. Nao quero ter que lavar a boca na agua benta
   em que vais lavar o c*."

____________________

Um fazendeiro e esposa estao na cama. Ela tricota, ele le^ o ultimo
numero da "Esposos na natureza". Ele vira-se para ela e pergunta:

- "Sabias que os seres humanos sao a unica especie animal em que
   a femea atinge orgasmos?"

Ela vira-se sensualmente, sorri, e responde:

- "Ah sim? Prova-o."

Ele pensa por momentos. Levanta-se e sai, deixando a mulher com ar
confuso. Meia hora depois volta sujo e transpirando e proclama:

- "Bem, tenho a certeza quanto 'a vaca e 'as ovelhas, mas a porca nao
   parava de guinchar, va'-se la' saber..."

____________________
From: abreu@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Abreu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.portuguese
Subject: Re: Resposta ao Borbinha
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:27:21 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London

In <1992Jul22.103355.14102@inesc.pt> rgc@eniac.inesc.pt (Rui Gustavo Crespo) 
writes:
 [...]
 > (b) Eu costumo mandar noticias desse e doutros assuntos com o mesmo tipo de
 > comentarios. Possivelmente ate' ja' estou inscrito nalguma "lista negra".
 > Sabes que hoje a censura (racismo?) economico ataca a sociedade portuguesa
 > a niveis diversos. Dizer o que se pensa, sobretudo quando se ataca os
 > "podres" desta sociedade, comeca a ser perigoso...

A solucao e' facil. Comecamos todos a mandar bocas a tudo e mais alguma coisa.
Depois mandamos bocas a tudo e todos. Depois concentramos a coisa 
exclusivamente no governo. Arranjamos uma lista de todos os membros da AR, e
ridicularizamo-los todos. A primeira parte ja' no's fazemos :-) Alguem inclui
a lista dos membros da AR (a titulo meramente elucidativo, sem ma's intencoes 
nem nada)?


 > Ultimamente tenho mandado esse tipo de noticias (e comentarios) a um grupo
 > mais restrito de pessoas. Nunca se sabe quem esta' a ler a S.C.P.

A coisa por ai anda pior do que eu pensava, pelos vistos. Por outro lado, se
os comentarios forem debatidos por aqui, vai ser dificil afectarem-nos a todos,
nao vai? Podemos tornar a coisa mais facil:


                   LISTA NEGRA DA SOC.CULTURE.PORTUGUESE
                     elementos de influencia perversa
                ou, de uma maneira ou de outra, agitadores
==============================================================================

 Rui Hamilton Faria Abreu (abreu@dcs.qmw.ac.uk)
   CULPADO - tentou comecar dialogos com teor politico (CE, politica militar
             comum, etc.) Agitador! Ninguem lhe deu ouvidos a nao ser um
             americano. Comunista! Lutaria pela autonomia madeirense se ela 
             estivesse em questao. Democrata o bandido! Racista! Mentiroso!
             Fascista! Foi citado dizendo "se...". PANCADA NO GAJO!
 ... (Agora os outros(as). Talvez ate' acabemos por compilar algo com piada.)


 [...]
 > O que e' curioso e' que apenas (algumas) pessoas do INESC ou a ela
 > associadas e' que escrevem para a S.C.P. Aqui esta' (possivelmente) um
 > tema para o Joao Bilhim tratar...
 [...]

Agora mais a serio. TA'S BRINCANDO, NAO TA'S? E' por isso que praticamente nao
se discute politica por aqui? TA'S BRINCANDO, NAO TA'S? Se os desafiarmos eles
mordem? TA'S BRINCANDO, NAO TA'S? Achas que eles querem manter o tratado de
Maastricht em segredo? Quem quiser copias pode obte-las no soc.culture.europe.
Se ja' nao as encontrarem, posso envia'las para o s.c.p. Alguem quer? Podem
pedir por e-mail se ha' medos. TA'S BRINCANDO, NAO TA'S? TA'S BRINCANDO, NAO 
TA'S? Por favor...

 GOVERNO PA' RUA! ABAIXO A DEMOCRACIA! VIVA A CHINA! ABAIXO O CAVACO! VIVA A
 MONARQUIA E AS OUTRAS IDIOTICES TODAS! VIVA EU!

Vamos a portar-nos como cidadaos de um pais democra'tico, por favor.


Um abrac,o e forc,a
Hamilton