HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem)
Subject: Re: Support for the resistance
Reply-To: hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:54:27 GMT

In article <assist.713229815@unocss>, assist@unocss.unomaha.edu ( ) writes:
> 
>   
> i found the following in the NYT of wednesday, july 29, 1992:

What you fail to mention is that this was a PAID ADVERTISEMENT and not a
news article.

> -------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> House Majority Declares Support for
> Iranian Resistance Led by Massoud Rajavi
> 
> 219 U.S. Lawmakers, including 13 Committee Chairmen, 8 Committee
> Ranking Members and 52 Subcommittee Chairmen, Urge UN Security
> Council to Impose Oil and Arms Embargo on Rafsanjani Government
> 
> In similar statements, 1,500 parliamentarian in 20 countries
> condemns mullahs' human rights abuses, April 5 air raid on an
> NLA base, and declare their support for the Iranian Resistance
> 
> MPs are from Austria, Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Greece,
> Ireland, Italy, Jordan, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Norway, 
> Pakistan, Portugal, San Marino, Spain, and Sweden.
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> see the NYT or the WP of july 22 for the text of the letter. the letter
> was co-sponsored by mervyn dymally (D-CA).

I am still waiting to see the lists of names of people who signed this
statement. Perhaps the support that the Mojahedin-e Rajavi claim is not
great enough to afford to pay for the extra newspaper space to include
the names :-). Or maybe the supporters are too timid to allow their
names to be associated with this scurrilous organization :-).

Brad Hernlem (hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU)
From: ali@utrcv1 (ALI BABA)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Hezbe Kharan
Date: 17 Aug 92 13:00:07 GMT
Organization: United Technologies Research Center

In article <1992Aug15.133143.29744@ulrik.uio.no>, kambizm@fidibus.uio.no writes...
>
>Be sar tavileye hezbe kharan neveshte be zar
>                  Ke nist hezbi az in hezb dar jahan behdar
>
>The poet of this line ofcourse were clubbed to death by
>Hezbollahe hamishe dar sahne, who meant that Hezbollah is
>ofcourse a better Hezb. Hazrate Emam once magnificiently
>said that : Aghle aghaye Rajayi behtar az elmeshan ast.
>The recent discussions on relativity proved that Babak
>has more Elm than Aghl. Also Farzin has got a 99.9% support to
>continue its special mission in life as Keyhane Havayi
>correspondent, Barekate Elahi bar oo bad. Va Amma baba Ali
>(molaghab be Ali Eslami) is the one who has stolen
>everybody's heart recently by his frankness, and elequent
>rudeness, his intellectual capacity is also unrivaled by
>any known and unknown thinker. I have a special mission
>to invite him to join as the honourly member to Hezbe Kharan
>and as Khare Bozorg. His personality and his faithfulness to
>human principles is of greate calibre.
>
>He is a jolly good fellow and he is a jolly good fellow and
>he is a jolly good fellow and nobody can deny that.
>
>                                                Kambiz
>

Dear Kambiz;
I will gladly accept your invitation on one condition that you take some
time off your masterbating and work on your expression and poetry. I
expect bad english from all of us, but when it comes to persian there is no
excuse.  I hope your parents weren't hoping for you to become the next
persian poet because you would have disappointed them so badly.  With all
the good Iranian expression and poetry yours is a masterpiece.  Maybe (as
tarse regime zabonet gerafteh) try pigeon eggs or take Noushin's Uncles'
advice before (bereene be tamameh zabaneh farsi)

 ***************************************************************         
 *  What we call the ills of life is due to our own ill-deeds  *
 *  And many of them are forgiven by god. This life is a stage *
 *  of convenience; Live true and resist all wrong, but learn  *
 *  the best way to do it so. On god rely; else no protector   *
 *  will you find. God revelation comes as a guide and mercy:  *
 *  It shows the straight way the way of god all-wise.         *
 *************************************************************** 

Internet = Ali@utrc.utc.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: news@fmiapd.com
Subject: TEST
Organization: Fujitsu Microelectroics Inc
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 21:42:50 GMT

TEST TEST TEST
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian)
Subject: Re: Mo'afi , another way of making money
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 19:48:48 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.085958.17324@fmg.bt.co.uk> ghbr@fmg.bt.co.uk (Hossein Bagherzadeh Rafsanjani) writes:

. . .

> The same again.  Remember, in the Shari'ah law they have introduced, even
> murderers (yes, not only manslaughters but murderers too) can escape punishment
> by paying money to the victims families.  

The above information is wrong. The victim's family has one the following
choices:
1) kill the killer
2) one degree forgiveness: accept an amount of money instead of killing.
3) forgive totally and just let the killer go!
The decision is up to the family of the victim. Now if the killer is a 
professional killer who threatens the security of the community, he is 
"mofsed fel-arz" and he will be executed.(I am not sure, he might even 
have to pay the victims' family too, if they claim!).
This seems fair to me. DO YOU HAVE A BETTER SUGGESTION?

>                                           Those who cannot pay, have to pay
> with their lives.

Oh my god! Now what's going to happen to those poor murderers?

> 
> -hossein

Seyyed.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: ohrd!rdowlati@cs.toronto.edu (Ramin Dowlati)
Subject: Re: Khomeini the SCUM
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 92 16:46:46 GMT

In article <17386@autodesk.COM> mickw@autodesk.com (Mick Washbrook) writes:
>In article <3675@keele.keele.ac.uk>, phd21@seq1.keele.ac.uk (A. Jaber) writes:
>> 
>> 	It will always be either the US or UK behind any figure that 
>> 	tries to distort Islam. They brought Khomeini to power in Iran
>> 	and they protect the Wahhabis un Arabia.
>
>But I trust that your distaste of the British Government isn't sufficient
>for you to leave the UK until you get the benefit of a British education,
>right?
>
>--
	Touche!!

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: bahman@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bahman Khamneian)
Subject: MoAfee (Exemption from Military Service)
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:33:22 GMT


I got the following info from the Iranian interest section (202)965-4990.


To obtain your exemption from M. service (MoAfee) you need to do the
following prior to the March of 1993: 


- Validate your degree through the interest section. they have a
  special validation form (Taeed-e Madrak) referred to as form 54.
  The representative connected me to an auto-answering system
  that asks for the form number and the destination fax number and then
  automatically faxes the from to you. I did not get the direct phone number for
  this system. 

- Send a letter indicating that the the degree you are validating is
  your highest/latest/last degree.

- Have someone in Iran to pay the required amount of money.
  The interest section does not handle the financial part.
  He said that for one or more B.S. it costs 1,000,000 tomans.


Bahman Khamneian
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: koohi@crchh46.BNR.CA (Shane Koohi)
Subject: Re: Conscription/Cambridge History of Iran
Reply-To: koohi@crchh46.BNR.CA (Shane Koohi)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:03:14 GMT


To Reza Shadmehr, Ph.D.,

Could you write some more info about the book 
"The Cambridge History of Iran".. i.e. Publisher, and/or
where one might be able to order one, cost, etc...

High regards,  Shane

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: alireza@eng.umd.edu (Alireza Karimzadeh-Rad)
Subject: Re: photo-bank of all SCI poeple
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 06:15:48 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Aug10.144022.12245@ra.oc.com> karim@hp835.mitek.com (Karim Sharif) writes:

>
> I only have one concern and that is how can you prevent people like
> Babak, Jabar, ..... from modifing these GIFs files.  Before you
> know it you could end up with 3 eyes, a different body, have sex
                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> with animals, have a different body, and the list could go on.
>               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>

Hopefully, the rest of the list will be somewhat less repetitiuos than
the example that you've given here. :)

Payandeh Baad Iran
Alireza
From: farzin@apollo3d.apollo3.ntt.JP (Farzin Mokhtarian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: BBC Unveils CIA Monetory Support for Iranian Opposition
Date: 21 Aug 92 00:32:25 GMT
Organization: none

In article <1992Aug20.150252.21668@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi) writes:

 &> This report is based on interviews with CIA operatives in Europe.
 &> Apparently people like Reza Pahlavi, General Madani, former Iranian
 &> president Bani Sadr and Manoochehr Ganji the manager of radio DERAFSHE
 &> KAAVIANI are among people who have been under CIA payroll.
 &> The report also unveils the friendship between William Casey, the former
 &> CIA director, and Reza Pahlavi, the son of deposed Shah of Iran.  In a 
 &> party Casey is heard to say that Reza Pahlavi will return to Iran with
 &> CIA help.Ganji, the director of a costly radio broadcast into Iran has contested
 &> the BBC revelations.  He has indicated that he has accepted the money only
 &> for the rescue of Iran (NEJAATE IRAN)!
 &> This piece of news was from an Iranian broadcast in D.C. area.
 &> Does anyone have any more info. on this (how about U.K. ahaali?)
 &> 
 &> ************************************************
 &
 &There was a series of programs on CIA and its activity
 &running for the past 5 or 6 weeks on BBC exploring the 
 &type of activities they under went in the last 60 years 
 &or so. Like Italy, Yougoslavia, and ... etc.
 &The last episode was the involvement of the CIA Operatives
 &in pre- and Post revolutionary era.  They were saying exactly
 &the same thing that you have quoted, That CIA is currently
 &paying Mr. Ganji about $100,000 dollars to run his radio
 &show and he was saying himself that I am not ashamed to
 &receive this money and his justification was that did
 &General Dougole refused Help (I don't quite know at what
 &periode?). 

One again, the US gov. has unwillingly and substantially
helped the Iranian gov. By placing these "opposition"
groups on their payroll, they have effectively destroyed
any credibility they may have had. It's a strange world!
                             
Well, as long as the US gov. feels like wasting its money ...
                                          
It's amazing how many of the hostile actions they have taken
against Iran have actually backfired against them! 
  
How does one explain it?
                           
 - Farzin
            
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.afghanistan
From: minhaszt@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Zafar T Minhas)
Subject: Re: IRAN in FARSI = IRAQ in ARABIC ???
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 06:10:05 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.230814.6737@eng.umd.edu> alireza@eng.umd.edu (Alireza Karimzadeh-Rad) writes:
>In article <1992Aug15.213850.29545@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> lhermi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Lotfi Hermi) writes:
>>
>>I read in some history book entitled " Ajjaib al-makdur fi nawaib taymur" 
>>by a Turkish writter ( the book is about tamerlane) that the word 
>>Iran is the Farsi equivalent of the word Iraq in arabic ? any enlightment ??
>>Iraq means in arabic either the root (Irq) or the nectar of Palm trees ( Araq).
>>Also, history books talk about iraq arabi and iraq ajjami, and may be some
>>iranian can shed light on this .
>>
>>Ba Ihtiram, Tashakur'am
>>
>>DAR BILAD ARABSTAN :Lotfi 
>>
>
>
>I don't know what Iraq is in Arabic , but Iran = Land of the Aryans,
>and this leads me to believe that the names Iran and Iraq are
>unrelated, not to mention the fact that Iran is spelled with an "alef"
>and Iraq, pronounced "Aragh", is spelled with an "ain". Also, while
>Iran has been in existance for around 2500 years, Iraq is a 20th
>century British creation, after WWI and the fall of the Ottoman Empire
>to be exact.
>
>I hope this has helped.
>
>
>Payandeh Baad Iran
>Alireza

Iraq and Iran might not be the same country, but Iraqis and Iranis are 
ethnically the same (very similar) people. One form of similarity is the way
of speaking. The way an Iraqi would speak Arabic is very similar to the way an
Iranian would, kind of like speaking Arabic with a Persian accent. There are 
many expressions that are direct translations into Arabic from Farsi (Don't
know any off hand). The type of Arabic that Iraqis speak has many words of 
Farsi origin as compared to the spoken Arabic of other countries. Also the
food of Iraqis is similar to that of Central and Western Iran. I guess you 
could say that Iraqis are Persians who took on the language and the mores of 
the Arabs, Persians who became Arabized.

zafar
From: yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Azad University
Date: 15 Aug 92 23:50:38 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

farzin@apollo3d.apollo3.ntt.JP (Farzin Mokhtarian) writes:

>In article <Bsz4rx.Ko1@news.cso.uiuc.edu> yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala) writes:

> @Yes it is 10 hours per week of teaching.  Those people who have taught
> @before now that for every hour of teaching you usually need to spend
> @another 3 hours for preparation for class.  This includes office hour,
> @homeworks, exams, updating the notes and etc.  So in effect that 10 hours
> @is equivalent to 40 hours per week which is a full time job.  In double
> @or even triple load there is no time to be spent for class preparation
> @and the instructor does not even get the time to update himself/herself.
> @Then class becomes like a dukkaan-baghghaali. You pay money for a service.
> @and the instructor becomes more like a dureh-gard going from one city
> @and school to another to repeat the same thing.

>I have taught courses before. I don't believe someone who has taught the
>same course in the past needs that much preparation time. What you say
>makes sense for an instructor who is teaching a course for the first time.
>   
> - Farzin
>   
How about office hours?  Are they also only for the first time!?
How about homeworks, tests?

How many hours of instructiosn do you think is reasonable for a professor?
10, 20, 30 or more?

In my school assistant professors are expected to teach ONE undergraduate
and ONE graduate course.  The full professors teach only ONE course
per term (sometimes one per year.  Are you suggesting that they are
doing it wrong?  and Iranian universities are doing it right?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: hosseini@rtsg.mot.com (Kamran Hosseini)
Subject: Re: Iran/Ireland
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 08:32:56 GMT

psc@sei.cmu.edu (Peter Capell) writes:


>How interesting... Ireland and Iran.  "Halle shoma chetoureh, me laddy..."

>Anyway, more interesting is that in his book, "Autobiography of a Yogi,"
>Paramahansa Yogananda mentions (citing Kant among his sources) that the Aryans
>may have spread their influence in music and in symbols.  He says that the
>scales used in bagpipes (an Irish and Scottish instrument) are very similar to
			     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Indian ragas (and by extension almost certainly dastgah).  He cites the
>eastern swastika as symbol among the Basque people as well.  Of course we know
>that the gypsies have many Persian words in their vocabulary as well.  They
>use the word "kard" for knife, for example.  Pretty neat stuff.  I have always
>wanted to do a word trace of Persian to American Indian words.  I was tipped
>off primarily from the eskimo word for boat being "kayak" not terribly
>dissimilar from the Persian "qayek."  I wouldn't doubt that the early
>migrations of peoples across the Bering Straights could have included some
>"Iranians," eh?

In fact it seems that persian(Iranian) mercenaries in the Roman army brought the
bagpipe to Britain from Iran, where it could have originated from.

Now...i might be wrong...but i doubt it....

		Kamran
From: ramin@crchh467.BNR.CA (Ramin Moshiri-Tafreshi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: republican convention
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:52:57 GMT
Reply-To: ramin@crchh467.BNR.CA (Ramin Moshiri-Tafreshi)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

I disagree.  Pat's message was full of hate and ... .  He might be
able to mobilize everyone under his hate message.  But it will have a
distructive result in the long run.


Reagrds;
Ramin Moshiri
From: farzin@apollo3d.apollo3.ntt.JP (Farzin Mokhtarian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Mo'afi , another way of making money
Date: 15 Aug 92 04:20:38 GMT
Organization: none



In article <Bsxto6.IKL@acsu.buffalo.edu> sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.) writes:
 @
 @ Here is another first class news from Iran. People get arrested on the
 @ streets for wearing colorfull and happy clothes specially women. and they
 @ take them in and people have to pay fine according to their fanciness,

Well, should be better than getting lashed ... I think ... :-)
  
 - Farzin
              
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: farzin@apollo3d.apollo3.ntt.JP (Farzin Mokhtarian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: PERSIAN WordProcessor, To Be or Not To Be
Date: 23 Aug 92 03:11:57 GMT
Organization: none

In article <1992Aug22.060815.28864@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> kbahrami@lonestar.utsa.edu (Kambiz J. Bahrami) writes:


 +  I like to know if there is a shareware Persian wordprocessor out there
 +  or not.  You see, in the past few weeks, to break the monotny of
 +  studying for my finance and accounting classes, I have been trying out
 +  my Pascal and C++ compilers.  The end result is that I ended up writing
 +  a set of programs that with some modifications can be turned into a
 +  Persian wordprocessor.  Thus, my question, is there a shareware
 +  Persian wordprocessor out there?  If the answer is no, then I will
 +  finish up with my coding, otherwise this has been just a practice
 +  in coding for me.  The following is a list of specifications and some
                                     
                                                
You might want to check out the following:
                                     
> From KayhAn HavAee # 994:
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  From the ad section: The best Persian/Multilingual document
>  processor available! Now for your IBM PC compatible with 
>  Microsoft Windows (TM). Call (801) 377-4558 today!
>  Eastern Language Systems, 39 West 300 North, Provo, Utah 84601
>  Fax: (801) 377-2200.

                      
 - Farzin
               
              
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem)
Subject: Articles About Iran
Reply-To: hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:54:16 GMT

 
The Summer 1992 issue of the Middle East Journal is devoted almost
entirely to Iran (4 long articles). These include analysis of Iran's
foreign policy, economic policy, land reform, and handling of opposition
groups. I have not read them all but they look interesting.

Brad Hernlem (hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.afghanistan,soc.culture.turkish
From: hamid@McRCIM.McGill.EDU 
Subject: Re: News of Iran
Originator: hamid@helios.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
Organization: McGill Research Centre for  Intelligent Machines
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 01:36:54 GMT


>>News briefs from Kayhaan Havaii # 993:
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >  
>>MKO cooperates with Iraqi gov. in murder of shi'a in south Iraq
>>

>Such accusations are totally false and baseless. Internal
>affairs of Iraqis are their own business. Iranian people
>have enough troubles of their own.  Mojahedin's goals are
>very clear; get ride of the current regime in Iran and ...

Of cource with any price, even serving Saddam or U.S.!

Hamid
From: kambizm@fidibus.uio.no 
Subject: Hezbe Kharan
Organization: University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 13:31:43 GMT


Be sar tavileye hezbe kharan neveshte be zar
                  Ke nist hezbi az in hezb dar jahan behdar

The poet of this line ofcourse were clubbed to death by
Hezbollahe hamishe dar sahne, who meant that Hezbollah is
ofcourse a better Hezb. Hazrate Emam once magnificiently 
said that : Aghle aghaye Rajayi behtar az elmeshan ast.
The recent discussions on relativity proved that Babak
has more Elm than Aghl. Also Farzin has got a 99.9% support to
continue its special mission in life as Keyhane Havayi 
correspondent, Barekate Elahi bar oo bad. Va Amma baba Ali
(molaghab be Ali Eslami) is the one who has stolen 
everybody's heart recently by his frankness, and elequent 
rudeness, his intellectual capacity is also unrivaled by
any known and unknown thinker. I have a special mission
to invite him to join as the honourly member to Hezbe Kharan
and as Khare Bozorg. His personality and his faithfulness to
human principles is of greate calibre.

He is a jolly good fellow and he is a jolly good fellow and
he is a jolly good fellow and nobody can deny that.

                                                Kambiz
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi)
Subject: Happines (was Re: Mo'afi , another way of making money)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 05:15:03 GMT
Organization: khosh/nakhosh

In article <Bsxto6.IKL@acsu.buffalo.edu> sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.) writes:

[ mo'afi subject deleted for it ain't apply to me :-) ]

>Here is another first class news from Iran. People get arrested on the
>streets for wearing colorfull and happy clothes specially women. and they
>take them in and people have to pay fine according to their fanciness,

Welcome back Ramin!  While you were out there was this discussion whether we
Iranians are any happier than pre-revolution time of the ex-Shaw [(c) 92 BS].
Another opinion was offered that apparantly the lack of happiness in Iran is a 
cultural 'thing,' dating back to years before.

It seems we are paying the price of our ancestors way back.  So my question is
'hAlA momkeneh mA az injA be-ba'd khosh-hAl beshim?'

BTW, how did you hear about this first class news?


Regards,
Hooshyar F. Naraghi
bavafa@netcom.com
(415) 324-1055

PS.  Farzin, now that the consensus here is to get KH news, has KH made any 
reference about this news?  Or, maybe KH is "mo'af" of reporting first class
news. :-) :-)  If yes, how much?



Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: jkhodada@eng.auburn.edu (Jay M Khodadadi)
Subject: Re: Historical question
Reply-To: jkhodada@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:58:49 GMT

How about MAAD?

My rusty recollection of history tells me they were the dynasty before the Hakhamaneshi.


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