From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: Re: Net Shills for Bush-Quayle: Caught Ya, Guys
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:58:03 GMT
Organization: Austerlitz, Gershovitz, and Carmichael

Stupendous Man writes:
>
>	Eileen is apparently one of those people who believe that Reagan must
>have stolen the 1980 election, that the 1980s economic boom never happened and
>that Bush was the only candidate in 1992 to lie.
>
>Brett
>===============================================================================
>80s: 18 million new jobs, deficits down (%GNP), tax rates down, tax revenues up
>GNP up, inflation down, unemployment down, interest rates down, cold war won
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Ahem....
 
  I've previously posted a refutation of your assertion that the
budget deficits of the 80s went down as a per cent of GNP using your
own data. Why do you bring it up?

  The tax rates which you posted also only show a significant decrease
below those of the Carter years for 2 of the Reagan years (1983 and
1984). Using the data which you posted, the Carter tax burden
was below 19% of GNP for all but the last year of his term and then
went to 19.3%. The tax burden for the Reagan years amounted to
20.1, 19.7,18.1, 18.1, 18.5,18.4, 19.2, 19.1. So, significant  
variation in tax burdens between the administration shows slightly
higher initial tax burdens during the Reagan years, a dip during
1983 and 1984, and then a return to levels commensurate with
those of previous administrations. I'm just quoting from your
own data.

The tax revenue dipped in 1983 and rose slightly in 1984. This 
can be accountable for lots of reasons: most glaring of course
could be the easing of the recession. Tax revenue increases
following then can be directly attributable to tax rate
increases.

The rate of job creation under Reagan and Carter was almost
identical. Under Bush, of course, the less said the better.

Inflation easing can be entirely attributable to the head of the
Federal Reserve, a Carter appointee. No one I've asked has
ever said what policies of Carter aggravated inflation.

Real interest rates throughout the 80s remained ruinously high. 

Winning the cold war as a solo Reagan/Bush accomplishment is 
ludicrous on its face. As for Bush's role: ask the citizens
of the Baltic states whose independence was discouraged by
George Bush.

Also, factor into the ordinary bozo's "net worth" his share of
the 3 trillion in debt added during the Reagan/Bush years
and then ask if the ordinary bozo did ok during the last 12
years. 

That said...

However, I think the idea that was originally advanced that
people on the net needed prompting from the Bush/Quayle 
organization to attack Clinton was something of a reach.
Misguided though they may be no one has ever suggested that
the Reagan/Bush supporters on the net need anyone anywhere
to provide them stones to throw.

As for lying, this Clinton supporter was dismayed by his habits
of wiggling around, yes. In the voting booth, I held my nose, squinted, and 
then pulled the rooster by the tail. Then, hope for the best.
Or even just better. Personally, I liked Jimmy Carter
and wonder what he'd have done without the damn hostage crisis.
-- 
Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu> My bad.