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From: D.G.D.Clark@GDT.BATH.AC.UK (Douglas Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Headingley - tea
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:43:00 GMT

Rain came at 3.25 to save Pakistan who were struggling at 68 for 4.

Aamir Sohail  c Atherton  b Mallender  23 (34)
Ramiz Raja                b Pringle   17
Asif Mujtaba              b Mallender  7
Javed Miandad  c Smith  b Pringle  6 (68)
SAlim Malik    not out 5
Inzamam-ul-haq  not out 0

Extras  10

1/34  2/54  3/60  4/68

Lewis  6 2 13 0
Mallender  13 5 32 2
Pringle  8 2 23 2
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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 13:51:35 EDT
From: Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Pakistani Players Use Filthy Language!?
 <92206.095447SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu> <1992Jul25.000220.14580@access.usask.ca>

In article <1992Jul25.000220.14580@access.usask.ca>, sundaram@skorpio.usask.ca
(Meenakshi Sundaram) says:
>
>                 Heading and contents do not have any relevance.

so sue me :-)
personally, i don't look at the headers at all, but just read all articles and
follow up whenever i have something to say.

Stay cool,
The Thinker

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 10:14:21 EDT
From: Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Double Internationals
 <1992Jul22.201053.9409@julian.uwo.ca>

In article <1992Jul22.201053.9409@julian.uwo.ca>, raza@surya.ccs.uwo.ca (Mr.
Raza Syed) says:
>
>I think that Viv was at one time heavy weight champ of Antigua
>and Micheal Holding was athelete (1500 m ?) and infact got some
>medal at olympics for jamica but iam not sure about this.
>Can anyone confirm/correct this?
>
michael holding was never an athlete at olympic level. in fact, i don't think
he took part in athletics after college/university. i remember an interview
in which he was asked if he was the 100 m champion of Jamaica and his reply
was "no maan, i just play cricket and run very fast" or words to that effect.

Stay cool,
The Thinker

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From: Sanjay.Naik@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Sanjay Naik)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Double Internationals
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:49:34 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <24JUL199211594460@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu> diwadkva@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.eduVaibhav A. Diwadkar) writes:
>
>	- Apparently Linekar made his debut against the Germans (not sure of
>	this) in '87 and scored 70.  Not bad I must say.  This particular
>	game was a oneday/one innings affair which ended in a draw with the
>	Germans 180+/9.  
>
>						- Vaibhav.

Yeah, Linekar's supposed to be a pretty good player. He follows cricket
with an interest and often plays in 'village cricket type' matches
(whenever he gets the time, I suppose). I once saw him at Edgbaston - I
think it was in the ROW vs. Prince of Wales X1. Anyway, with his upcoming
departure to Japan, he's not going to get much of a chance to either play
or watch cricket.

Some nettors mentioned Denis Compton as a double international. I never
knew he played for England (in football, that is). Compton played for the
Arsenal, one of the most famous football teams in the world (although not
in the same league as Aston Villa :-) :-) ).

Reading about the double internationals reminded me a guy called C. Aubrey
Smith. I think he played for England in tests (he was definetely a first
class cricketer) in the 20's/30's (??). He later went to Hollywood and
starred in a lot of movies, including the  classic '39 version of 'The
Four Feathers'. Now there's a few Indian cricketers who have attempted to
act, but not with the success of good old C. Aubrey ;-)

Bye,

Sanjay Naik. 

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From: x90mumtaz@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: info needed
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:12:36 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Jul22.174946.17755@vela.acs.oakland.edu>, mkyeddan@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Murali Yeddanapudi) writes:
> Hello netters, 
>                Does someone remember the breathtaking one-day match
> (IND-PAK) at Sharjah, in which Miandad hit a sixer off the last ball
> from Chethan Sharma ? I was wondering if PAK needed only 4 runs off the
> last ball or more in order to win. Could someone post the info ? Thanks
> in advance.
> 
> vijay
> 
> 
In that classic one-day match Pakistan needed 4 runs off the last
bowl which Miandad got by hitting a memorable six.

Atif Mumtaz
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From: shiv@rs.com (Shiv)
Subject: Re: Pakistani Players Use Filthy Language!
Reply-To: shiv@rs.com
Organization: Renaissance Software, Inc.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 10:22:10 PDT

In article 095447SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu, Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu> () writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.213153.2012@leland.Stanford.EDU>,
>arkay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Abdur Khan) says:
>>
>>also how come no one talks about gavaskar's hundred against New Zealand,
>>which would have been the fastest if he had not slowed down near the hundred
>>mark.
>>
>no. he was pretty quick till 95 (71 balls) but then he slowed down and got his
>100 off 85 balls. however, the record (62 balls) by azharuddin was never
>seriously threatened.
>
>Stay cool,
>The Thinker
>
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Azhar's fastest century off 62 balls was scored much after the World Cup. It
was at Baroda against New Zealand, when Vengsarkar was the captain. So there
was no question at that time, of Gavaskar threatening Azhar's record. 

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From: dgrove@axion.bt.co.uk (David Grove)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: LBW rules: Expert Opinion needed
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:03:56 GMT
Reply-To: dgrove@axion.bt.co.uk (David Grove)
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs


 kre@cs.mu.oz.au (Robert Elz) writes:

>I can't believe how many people can't understand such a simple rule
>(which has been posted already so I won't repeat it).
>
>But for those who have difficulty with that, here's how it works.
>
>1) if its not a legal delivery its not out
>2) if it pitches (lands) outside leg stump, its not out,
>	otherwise you *totally ignore* where it pitches.
>3) if it hits the batsman outside the line of off stump, then
>	its not out if (s)he was playing a shot.
>4) if you get this far, then the only question left is whether the
>	ball was going to hit the stumps, if no, then not out,
>	if yes, out (unless the ball then went on to break the
>	stumps, in which case the batsman is out bowled).
>
>Simple?   (perhaps not always to apply in a particular case, but
>its certainly suimple to understand).


Despite ignoring the fairly essential bit about the batsman having hit the ball first, this is probably the most easily implemented interpretation of the LBW law you can hope to receive.  It took a bit of time for me to convince myself that it meant the same as the rule book but now Iknow it does then it's certainly the way I'll consider any appeals (well, depending on who's batting anyway!!!!!!).

Thanks Robert for clearing it all up,

Dave.
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From: shamim@.bellcore.com (Shamim Naqvi,MRE-2E342,829-4813,,21272)
Subject: Re: English Umpiring, hello Rajeev
Reply-To: shamim@.bellcore.com
Organization: Bell Communications Research, Morristown, NJ
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 16:48:08 GMT

In article 17513@Princeton.EDU,  sguha@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Saumyen Guha) writes:
>
> One name comes into the mind: Derek Underwood.
>Can somebody post his records against India and Pakistan?
>
>later,
>-Saumyen



Not really. Underwood was deadly on wet wickets but quite ordinary otherwise. 
Against India and Pakistan, Underwood has one 10 wicket haul in a test match: 
Lords in 1974 vs Pakistan on a wet wicket where he was virtually unplayable. 

	--SAN

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From: ravikane@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ravindra Shantaram Kane)
Subject: Re: Sunil does not read the headers anyway : -)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 18:52:28 GMT


What % of India's total did Kapil make during his legendary knock
of 175 n.o. vs. Zimbabwe ( I have a feeling it could be more than
71% of India's total)
From: jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: T4 D4 25 min after tea
Date: 31 Jul 1992 14:07:06 -0500
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England are 50/2 chasing 99 to win.

Both Gower and Gooch have played some chancy shots after tea.
Mushtaq had Gower in all sorts of trouble in his last over.

Gooch is now on 35, Gower on 8

j n a
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 10:21:00 EDT
From: Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: English Umpiring, hello Rajeev

In article <01GMZN31QJMQAKVSYT@ccmail.sunysb.edu>, ABEGLEY@ccmail.sunysb.edu
(Anthony M. Begley) says:
>
>The point is we will NEVER know because in pakistan/India you dont get
>bowlers swinging and seaming the ball late. Thus no side of this touchy       t
>
bzzzzt! wrong answer!
it pretty obvious that you haven't seen imran khan demolishing india with his
inswingers in lahore, or kapildev early in the morning in calcutta, sarfraz
nawaz at his peak or even manoj prabhakar's "banana" in- and outswingers.
the last named, in fact, swung the ball as much as anyone i have seen. a bit
too much, however, because he kept missing the edge.

Stay cool,
The Thinker

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From: jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: first hour
Date: 23 Jul 1992 05:56:54 -0500
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After about an hour, Pakistan are 34 for no loss, after having
won the toss.  Pringle just bowled a maiden to Rameez.

That is about all that I can make out from the radio.

j n a
From: jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: T4 D3 80 minutes after lunch
Date: 25 Jul 1992 09:06:29 -0500
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Pakistan, chasing a first innings deficit of 123, are 15/1.

I have better reception now.  The pitch is beeing described
as "tricky".  Aamir misjudged the bounce of one wide outside
the off stump.  Miandad is going to chew his but for this.

Waqar had the figures of: 30-3-5-117 this is the 9th time he
has taken 5 wickets in an innings.

Rameez and Mujtaba are in.

j n a
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From: shamim@.bellcore.com (Shamim Naqvi,MRE-2E342,829-4813,,21272)
Subject: Re: England 2nd Innings
Reply-To: shamim@.bellcore.com
Organization: Bell Communications Research, Morristown, NJ
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 15:26:24 GMT

In article 27256@cs.su.oz.au,  tom@cs.su.oz.au (Thomas James Jones) writes:
>In article <1992Jul27.182953.23617@walter.bellcore.com>, shamim@.bellcore.com (Shamim Naqvi,MRE-2E342,829-4813,,21272) writes:
>
>|> Two years ago when Gooch was LBW to Terry Alderman in almost every innings, 
>|> I heard several people making the preposterous claim that English umpires were so
>|> fair that sometimes visiting teams got the advantage over England. 
>
>	I do not see why the claim was so 'preposterous'.  There is no 
>	doubt that the fairness of the Umpires was an important factor
>	in rewarding the Australian bowler.
>
The claim is preposterous because if "English umpires are the best in the world" then 
nobody, visiting or home, should be able to get an advantage. Hope that is clear now. 

>	I have not seen very much of Waqar, but Alderman is the

In that case, my posting may not be very instructive to you. 

>                      The subtle and not-so-subtle implications
>	that the English Umpires have been cheating to favour the
>	home side is a disappointing response from the Net, and 
>	people should be careful not to let (a) there emotions,
>	and (b) the reactions of the players affect their judgement.
>	It seems almost that people are encouraging each other
>	in their frustration, so what was something small to 
>	begin with grows into cheating - as all the references
>	to 'neutral umpires' shows.  I am not against neutral umpires
>	- I think it is unfortunate, but necessary simply to
>	remove such accusations.  However this does not give
>	anybody the right to start talking about netural umpires
>	on the Net, implying that there has been dishonesty.
>
>	tom

Nobody is talking about  English umpires cheating: the original
postings all talked about the English Cricket establishment's claim
that English umpires are the best in the world, that TV replays 
show that they do make mistakes as everybody else, that if a Pakistani/Indian umpire
makes a mistake it is dubbed as cheating by visiting Aussie and English
sides, their estab and their media, and that this duplicity generates ill-feelings
in players which can be removed by employing third country umpires.

Allow me to quote a passage from Jawad's posting that is relevant:

>The complaint is not against English umpiring, but against the duplicity
>with which such matters are handled.  The standard of English umpiring
>has nothing to do with racism, but the one sided complaints of cheating
>do have something to do with colonial and racist attitudes.


	--SAN

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From: gkb1@chempc1.york.ac.uk (Graham Barlow)
Subject: Hick gets 4 th catch
Organization: University of York, UK
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 11:08:42 GMT

End of innings came at 11:59
Pakistan score 197

9th wicket partnership, 64 in 90 minutes, completed 1000 runs vs. England

Mushtaq Ahmed : b. Pringle		 11      90 mins,  64 balls
Salim Malik   : not out			 82      226 mins, 164 balls
Ahked Javed   :	ct. Hick b. Monkton	 0       3 balls

Total					197

Hick 26 catches in 13 matches! ... shame he can't score more runs

Graham

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From: pkohli@cc.gatech.edu (Prince Kohli)
Subject: Re: England XI v Rest of World 1992 July 29
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:17:28 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.162858.14313@cs.umn.edu> karnik@cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik) writes:
>In <1992Jul29.234219.2903@st-andrews.ac.uk> cdcs@st-andrews.ac.uk (Colin D. C. Steele) writes:
>
>>England XI v Rest of World
>>55 overs per side
>
>>REST OF WORLD
>
>>  DL Haynes     c Lewis    b Malcolm    28
>>  MJ Greatbatch       run  out          43
>>  PV Simmons    c Lewis    b Malcolm    10
>>  RB Richardson c Rhodes   b Fraser      6
>>  MD Crowe      c Cork     b Tufnell    56
>>  SR Tendulkar  c Broad    b Lewis     100
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>	Wheeeee! At last! He just needed some distinguished company to
>	bring out the best in him :-)

Tendulkar is the antithesis of Hick - "fails" at the county level and
succeeds (brilliantly) at the international level. What I wouldn't give
to see an innings of his. America is getting to me, I have started to
like (actually, watch) baseball :-( I need a strong antidote and soon....

Cheers,

-Prince



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From: venkat@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (mu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Double Internationals
Date: 25 Jul 92 17:51:53 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

hasan@vxcrna.cern.ch writes:
>C.B.Fry, England's captain around 1910 was also a double international. He 
>played rugby (?) at an international level and was also a noted long jumper.

avs4700@zeus.tamu.edu (ANAND SRINIVASA) writes:
> Probably true. Legend also has it that the king of some African country
>(Monrovia?) was so impressed by Fry's feats that he offered Fry the
>presidentship of his country. Of course, the cricketer-rugbier(?)-
>long jumper-gentleman that Fry is, he quietly declined the invitation.

Amazing, but its all true.

The country in question was Albania.  There were many great cricketers,
and are tons of stories from "cricket's golden age".  Definitely the stuff
that legends are made of.

Now if only I could have seen Victor Trumper bat ... :-)

murari venkataraman
venkat@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
From: ravi@wti.com (Ravi Raj)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: 2ND DAY SCORE
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:52:44 GMT
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X-Disclaimer: Not a spokesperson for Wavefront Technologies, Inc.

In article <0095E0B1.98700880@vms.csd.mu.edu> 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>Heard on the Beeb
>-----------------
>Pakistan all out for 197 an hour before lunch on the
.
.
>
>In reply
>England 76 for no loss shortly after lunch.
>Gooch and Atherton both in their mid-twenties.
				  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>bye,

Mid twenties? I thought Gooch was in his mid-thirties!
He has been around for quite some time now, hasn't he?
If I'm not mistaken, Gooch has been playing test cricket
for some 17 years now. So he couldn't be in his mid-twenties.
Unless he started playing test cricket when he was 8 years old
or something!
:-) :-)
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From: shamim@.bellcore.com (Shamim Naqvi,MRE-2E342,829-4813,,21272)
Subject: Re: Pak vs India, Sharjah 1986
Reply-To: shamim@.bellcore.com
Organization: Bell Communications Research, Morristown, NJ
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 01:52:24 GMT

In article 14kuneINNh3r@agate.berkeley.edu,  aim@ocf.berkeley.edu (Ali Mirza) writes:

>Also, can someone from England state the number of first class matches the touring
>side needs to win in order to qualify for the bonus?
>
>Thanks.
From hot and humid New Jersey:

Pakistan now need to win one from two remaining first class fixtures.  The last game 
they played this week was interestingly poised when the rains came and put an end to the match. 
(Aside: The umpire for this game gave a "very good" to the Pakistanis for their conduct during the 
match. He is also going to be the referee for the upcoming 4th test. )
The last two matches are against Essex and Gloucestershire. 
--shamim



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From: jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: T4 D2 Lunch (or thereabouts)
Date: 24 Jul 1992 07:06:48 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


It must be lunch.  I have not been able to make out any of
the commentary for the last hour or so.  Stewart and Gooch
came in to bat after Pakistan were all out for 197. My guess
is that Gooch is thrashing the Pakistani bowling, since I 
keep hearing his name after loud roars.  I am giving up 
for now.  Anyone out there having better luck?

j n a
From: jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: HISTORY of LBW Rule Required
Keywords: History, Leg Before Wicket
Date: 31 Jul 92 04:37:39 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico

In article <9221309.5464@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> rakesh@ecr.mu.oz.au (Rakesh DESAI) writes:
>.  I just wonder the simulation technology
>which these days Michael Jackson uses in his video (i am not sure the
>name but may be called Morphism), can be applied to simulate the
>trajectory of ball from a real life situation to adjudge whether ball
>would have hit the stump or not by removing batsman from simulated
>picture.

I am not in favour of technology based solutions, especially those that
disrupt the game, such as replays.  But as school childred we would 
sometimes draw lines on the ground joining the off and leg stump.  This
helped me a lot in judging where the ball had pitched when judging LBW
decisions.  I dont know how feasible this would be on a 'real' pitch.

j n a.
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From: raza@surya.ccs.uwo.ca (Mr. Raza Syed)
Subject: Re: Neutral Umpires ---> Pick your own !
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:22:51 GMT

In article <9207290711.AA25160@vassal.cm.cf.ac.uk> Carl.M.Jones@cm.cf.ac.uk (Carl Jones) writes:
>|Another example in 1987 world cup semi final two bad decisions by umpire
>|non other then shepard and dickybird cost pakistan the match against Australia
>|(not to take credit from Australia), but no untoward incident took place in
>|that matche also...
>|
>|
>
>Yes, but did David Sheppard or Dickie Bird have a previous (criminal)
>record as Roy Palmer now has ?
>
>Carl


I dont think Umpire palmer was notoroius before Old trafford test,
but now (in your words) he has a criminal record, which is mainly
because match was being played b/w Pakistan and England. Incidents
like Aqib-Palmer or Gatting-Rana could have been avoided if some third 
country umpires were used, examples of two world cups and some test serieses in Pakistan are there.

S.R.Raza.
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