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From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes)
Subject: Re: HELP: Signatures
Originator: guckes@medusa
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 15:10:17 GMT

mncmic02@uctvax.uct.ac.za writes:

>In article <AFA5CEU@math.fu-berlin.de>, guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) writes:
>> frsdav04@uctvax.uct.ac.za writes:
>> 
>>>This could be a FAQ but what the Hell.
>>>
>>>How do you possibly change your signature or if you prefer attach it.
>> 
>> "This could be a FAQ" ? It COULD be a FAQ ? Hell - it IS a FAQ! Argh!
>Jeez, so it is an FAQ. SO BLOODY WHAT?! We're pretty new to this, ya know.
>Either send a decent reply or stop wasting bandwidth (or alternatively,
>explain FAQ's and their locations, and how to get them!!).

Create/Change the file "$HOME/.signature" to change your signature.
FAQ  := "Frequently Asked Question"
FAQL := "Frequently Asked Questions List"
Read group "news.answers" to find FAQLs.
Read group "alt.fan.warlord" to find out about signatures.
RTFM := "Read The Friendly Manual"
SWMTWF := "Stop Wasting My Time With Flamewars"
DNFTTPOE := "Do Not Follow-Up To This Posting - Or Else ..."
From: asylvain@felix.filenet.com (The Chipmunk)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Talk
Date: 15 Aug 92 07:14:23 GMT
Reply-To: asylvain@fritz.filenet.com (The Chipmunk)
Organization: Foundation for the Increased Wealth of Chipmunks

Written in article <1992Aug12.210035.1980@eos.arc.nasa.gov>
 by shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum):

: What is the difference between the "talk" and "write" commands.
: I've read the "man" deffinitions, and they sound basically the same.

talk is two-way, write is one-way.

-- 
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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (J Lee Jaap)
Subject: Re: which group to ask for a bibliographic tool ?
Organization: AS&M Inc
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 02:47:56 GMT

In article <4101@seti.UUCP> ziane@nuri.inria.fr (ziane mikal -) writes:
   I am looking for a tool to help me manage bibliographic references
   but I do no know on which group I should ask.
   I will try comp.unix.questions and comp.sys.mac.wanted since
   I'd likethe tool to run on mac or unix.

Try the comp.text groups.
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From: rone@alcor.usc.edu (Ron Echeverri)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: clari...
Date: 16 Aug 1992 14:57:07 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: alcor.usc.edu

In article <1992Aug16.200020.10703@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> af322@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kevin Adams) writes:
>In the list of usenet groups I notice one that starts
>off with "clari" yet is not available from the reader.
>Are these private or is there some other reason they
>are not showing up.

The clari groups are from ClariNet, a newsfeed that gets its articles directly
off the UPI wire.  Since you're at the FreeNet, i doubt they'll get a clari
feed because it costs money to subscribe.  But you could ask them if they're
thinking about it.

5150
usc got a clari feed less than a month ago, and it's great
From: ekman@netcom.com (Crossly the Glad-Eyed Bear)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: I Give Up!!
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:53:07 GMT
Organization: Home for the Terminally Infirm

In article <g49m0db.lindae@netcom.com> lindae@netcom.com () writes:
>
>
>Well, for several days now I've been trying to get help in placing
>an expires header line in my postings to alt.missing-kids.  These
>are postings that have to do with locating missing kids and posting of
>safety tips, education information, etc.  
>
>Thanks to many of you who tried to help, but it just doesn't seem to
>work.  I've tried all of your suggestions, but I just can't seem to
>get that darned expiration line in there.  So, I give up.  The
>postings will disappear when they must and we'll just leave it at that.

It works just fine.  Your latest posting to alt.missing-kids has an
"Expires:" line in proper form.  If you didn't see it,  it's because
your newsreader is hiding it from you.  If you're using rn, press the
"v" key; in nn, press the "h" key to see the full header, including the
"Expires:" line.
-- 
Crossly the Glad-Eyed Bear              ekman@netcom.com
Home for the Terminally Infirm, Redwood City, California
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: mgfrank@avernus.com (Marc G. Frank)
Subject: Re: Articles I Post are Being Deleted Too Quickly!
Organization: Maryland Appreciation Society
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 03:57:05 GMT

In article <992Aug6.2245.574@nwnexus.WA.COM> ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) writes:
>an 'extended' length of time.  If netcom nukes the messages after
>a week, that's their business, of course, but ensuring that the
>posts stay around with the EXPIRES: header is preferable to having
>their admin extend the expiration flag for the newsgroup.  At least
>the EXPIRES: header sort of controls the length of time it remains
>on ALL systems flag.

This isn't entirely true.  After the purge period the article will be
deleted irrespective of it's expiry header.  Most newsgroups I pick up
have a purge period of seven days.  I doubt that's a representative
period, though.

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From: kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan (KD1HZ))
Subject: Re: Articles I Post are Being Deleted Too Quickly!
Organization: The Rhode Island Internet Systems Cooperative Network
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 20:52:03 GMT

lindae@netcom.com () writes:

>Why are they being deleted?  And what can I do about it?

Add an Expires: header.

MD
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From: ivory@e7sa.epi.syr.ge.com (John Ivory)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Lexis/Nexis please...
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:48:06 GMT
Reply-To: ivory@e7sa.epi.syr.ge.com
Organization: Tower Concepts

Apology: I had no place else to turn.

Question: How do I get in contact with the Lexis/Nexis service?
Who do I write to?  Who do I call?

Thanks: As always.

John Ivory
From: mgflax@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Marshall G. Flax)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Single Source For FAQ Lists?
Date: 14 Aug 92 22:56:19 GMT
Organization: Princeton University

In article <595m!1_.westes@netcom.com> westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes:
>Is there a single place where all FAQ lists are stored, or is there at
>least a master list that tells the FTP sites for each FAQ list?

Not every FAQ is stored centrally.  For instance, I have a FAQ list
locked in a safe in the center of the planet -- it's so secret that even
I've never read it.  But I believe that you are looking for
pit-manager.mit.edu, aliased to rtfm.mit.edu (i.e. read the ____ manual)
and mirrored on ftp.uu.net as well as many other self-respecting sites
throughout the world.

marshall
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From: grimaldo@tokyo.seri.philips.nl (Emilio Grimaldo)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Help!!! missing postings
Date: 19 Aug 92 07:27:47 GMT
Organization: Philips Semiconductors, The Netherlands
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Hi,
     I am becoming veeeery annoyed by the fact that all my postings disappear
after the first or second day! it is time consuming to request the info.
again and again, I have been posting in SCI.ELECTRONICS and REC.TRAVEL. I
tried by inserting an 'Expires: ' header myself but...obviously it does NOT
work.
      Can anybody help? and PLEEEEASE do it before this posting also 
disappears into the dark depths of Internet and TIN.

	Thanks in advance,
			   D.E.G.T.
P.s.
    I guess if you email me there will
    be better chances of getting it right...


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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: mgfrank@avernus.com (Marc G. Frank)
Subject: Re: Articles I Post are Being Deleted Too Quickly!
Organization: Maryland Appreciation Society
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 04:00:36 GMT

In article <992Aug6.2245.574@nwnexus.WA.COM> ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) writes:
>an 'extended' length of time.  If netcom nukes the messages after
>a week, that's their business, of course, but ensuring that the
>posts stay around with the EXPIRES: header is preferable to having
>their admin extend the expiration flag for the newsgroup.  At least
>the EXPIRES: header sort of controls the length of time it remains
>on ALL systems flag.

This isn't entirely true.  After the purge period the article will be
deleted irrespective of its expiry header.  Most newsgroups I pick up
have a purge period of seven days.  I doubt that's a representative
period, though.

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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (J Lee Jaap)
Subject: Re: uncompress and ununecode?
Organization: AS&M Inc
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 02:45:19 GMT

In article <8277@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au> zebee@ucs.adelaide.edu.au (Zebee Johnstone) writes:
   I've seen a file I want that has been posted to a newsgroup
   in what is advertised as "compressed and uuencoded".

   How do I reconstitute it?

Save it to a file (however your newsreader allows - RTFM).
(I use <something>.uu .)

Use your favorite editor to delete any headers and trailers
on the message.  Final file should have `begin <file> <perm>'
on the first line and `end' on the last.

uudecode <saved-file-name>
uncompress <uudecoded-file-name>

RTFM for more info on these commands.

Of course this assumes a UNIX system.  You should always
mention your operating system and version and newsreader
and version in a request.  We're not mindreaders.  But
these useful utilities have been ported to many other
OSs.  If you need help finding them, post again and help
us help you by supplying enough info.
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From: walker@Ingres.COM (Lynn Walker)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: posting to more than one newsgroup
Keywords: posting startrek tv
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:23:11 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

POSTING TO MORE THAN ONE NEWSGROUP--

	Example
	------
	I want to post something related to STAR TREK. I would like to post
	it to both "rec.arts.tv", and "rec.arts.startrek". When I use the "p"
	command it lists in square brackets the group I'm in, but that's it.
	I'm not sure where I should be inserting the other groups. Perhaps
	there is a default command.

	Any feedback would be helpful,

		Lynn Walker
		walker@ingres.com
From: lwall@netlabs.com (Larry Wall)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Articles I Post are Being Deleted Too Quickly!
Date: 17 Aug 92 08:32:29 GMT
Organization: NetLabs, Inc.

In article <1992Aug17.064021.16386@ennews.eas.asu.edu> sridhar@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman) writes:
: date '+Expires: %a, %d %b %Y %H:%M:%S GMT' 
: 
: I am sure someone can offer a one-liner in perl. 

If you really want it in one line, I suspect something resembling the
following would work...

    do "ctime.pl";@x=(split(' ',&ctime(time+604800)))[2,1,4,3];print"@x GMT\n";

Larry Wall
lwall@netlabs.com
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: ralphs@halcyon.com
Subject: Re: Articles I Post are Being Deleted Too Quickly!
Originator: ralphs@halcyon.com
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 00:04:53 GMT


In <Bt5sCy.167@xcluud.sccsi.com> paul@xcluud.sccsi.com (Paul Hutmacher) writes:

>And we (site admins) do decide how long something stays in /spool.  We
>use the cnews bounds line in /usr/lib/news/explist to control it.  Expires
>lines do not supercede bounds lines.

Would you (and other admins) consider extending the limits on
alt.missing-kids to, say, 60 days?  Mark off the lost spool
space as a public service, perhaps.

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From: phil@eecs.nwu.edu (William LeFebvre)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domains,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: domain name servers and resolvers questions
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:02:52 GMT
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University

In article <1992Aug13.140126.7239@dlpinc00.rn.com>, dlparker@dlpinc00.rn.com (David L. Parker) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug12.155252.26870@eecs.nwu.edu> phil@eecs.nwu.edu (William LeFebvre) writes:
|> >
|> >I would also also recommend waiting until some time at the end of
|> >this year when O'Reilly releases its DNS book.  I'm reviewing it now
|> >and it looks very good (at least, so far).
|> >
|> Are you referring to TCP/IP Network Administration??

No, although that is a good source of DNS information as well.  I'm
referring to (I don't remember the exact title, but this is close)
"Domain Name System in a Nutshell".  It is an entire book on DNS.
It is due out by the end of the year.  It is NOT out yet.  And yes,
this book is *very* thorough, including an entire chapter on figuring
out who to apply to for a DNS name (and how to do it).

		William LeFebvre
		Computing Facilities Manager and Analyst
		Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science
		Northwestern University
		<phil@eecs.nwu.edu>
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: pwilson@admin.acadiau.ca (PETER WILSON)
Subject: How to become an Internet Site
Organization: Acadia University
Distribution: global
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:16:24 GMT

I just recently learned of a document on how to become an Internet site.  
Does anyone know the name of this document, and where I can find it?  If 
anyone has this or other documents similar in content to this, I would 
really appreciate it if you could e-mail me a copy(ies).  If this document 
is available via anonymous FTP, could someone tell me where I can obtain 
it, and what directory to look in (if possible).  Feel free to send me 
e-mail at pwilson@admin.acadiau.ca

If anyone else is interested in this information (and I find what I'm 
looking for) drop me a line and I'd be happy to forward the information to 
you.  

Thanks in advance,

Peter Wilson
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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: mgfrank@avernus.com (Marc G. Frank)
Subject: Apology
Organization: Maryland Appreciation Society
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:05:11 GMT


Yesterday I sent out an article (re news expiry) some three times.
There's a bit of trouble with emacs at this site that occasionally
causes such things to happen.  I cancelled two of them, but they appear
to have snuck out.  My apologies if you had to read it several times.


Marc G. Frank                                      mgfrank@avernus.com
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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: d_jackson@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au
Subject: Re:RE:zipfiles THANK U!
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 08:16:29 GMT

Yo people,beaytiful people,

Thanks for ALL the replies I think a have found the problrm.YES not setting
BINARY.Thanks for the response and sorry to send AROUND the woeld as one person
told me BUT i don't any other way.YES I am a new-user!Now that i know where the 
helpful people are ,how do i subscribe?Please no more replies but mail is always
welcomed! 
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From: lindae@netcom.com ()
Subject: Re: Articles I Post are Being Deleted Too Quickly!
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 01:08:19 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Aug16.221345.15734@nwnexus.WA.COM> ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) writes:
>kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan (KD1HZ)) writes:
>
>>lindae@netcom.com () writes:
>
>>>Why are they being deleted?  And what can I do about it?
>
>>Add an Expires: header.
>
>This is the BEST way.  The 'criticalness' (subjective, of course)
>of this sort of group demands that the messages stay around for
>an 'extended' length of time.  If netcom nukes the messages after
>a week, that's their business, of course, but ensuring that the
>posts stay around with the EXPIRES: header is preferable to having
>their admin extend the expiration flag for the newsgroup.  At least
>the EXPIRES: header sort of controls the length of time it remains
>on ALL systems flag.

  Sorry to be so ignorant but how do I add an expiration line?  When I
type "Pnews" to post my articles, the only questions it asks me are:
Subject line and "are you sure you want to do this?"  It never offers me
a place to put an expiration date.  Am I missing something here?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Linda
lindae@netcom.com


Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes)
Subject: Re: Including a file in a posting
Summary: This is a flame. Hit "n" now. (You have been warned.)
Originator: guckes@medusa
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 15:43:35 GMT

naffara@crc.ac.uk (Dr. N.A. Affara) writes:

>As you can see I have finally been able to squeeze my sig into 4 lines!!!
>You won't believe how long it took :-]

Here is Docs sig :
>Kryten (When Cat says why don't we raise the defensive shields?) "A superlative
>suggestion sir,with only two drawbacks: one,we don't have any defensive shields
>and two,we don't have any defensive shields.I know that,technically,that's only
>one drawback,but it was such a big one I thought I'd mention it twice".

Now, I must say, he must have woven his name most cleverly into those
lines - and I'm still searching for it. Not to mention his address, of
course. I wonder what his friends do if they want to send him some mail.
Maybe they put "When Cat says ..." as an address ? Or is that the "we
don't have any defensive shields" part ? I don't know. Do you ?

>I need DETAILED STEP BY STEP instructions as I am not very good with this sort
>of thing!

Who gave you an account ? Ask HIM ! (Or is it "HER" ?)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: mgflax@ernie.Princeton.EDU (Marshall G. Flax)
Subject: Re: Internet History?
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:22:27 GMT

In article <uX9PPB2w165w@wuntvor.norman.ok.us> kilgore@wuntvor.norman.ok.us (Stan Hall) writes:
>    Can anyone point me a to a reference to the history of Internet?
>    I started explaining to one of my users and figured out how much
>    I reallt don't know (not to mention that I am throughly confusing).

By Ftp:
	weber.ucsd.edu:/pub/usenet.hist

marshall

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From: u912080@daimi.aau.dk (Rune Bang Lyngs|)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: HELP! UNIX to Macintosh how is it done (bin to mac?)
Date: 19 Aug 92 02:26:11 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

ftp HELP!
I have big problems transfering Macintosh programs from UNIX to Macintosh. Whenever I try to unpack the Binary files that I get from UNIX, I get an error saying that the archive is bad. What do I do wrong? I use the decode Bin/hex command in stuffit deluxe and then I just use the normal Stuffit command "unpack file"
I really hope that someone can help me with this problem!!!

Please use E-mail
From: twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Talk
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:12:14 GMT
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA

In article <1992Aug12.210035.1980@eos.arc.nasa.gov> shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum) writes:

>What is the difference between the "talk" and "write" commands.
>I've read the "man" deffinitions, and they sound basically the same.

Have you tried to use them?

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From: dman@netcom.com (Dallman Ross)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: .sig files
Date: 22 Aug 92 20:10:19 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S. Morris) writes:
:                                          If you are unsure, type
: 
: cd '$HOME'

Or just "cd" <Enter> should do to get you there.

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