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From: karloey@aahs.no (Karl Anders Oygard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Mouse Walk
Date: 14 Sep 92 08:07:28 GMT

Mark Hughes (mhughes@comtch.spk.wa.us) writes:
>  Some fascist sources like Webster's dictionary, various grammer guides,
>and Dan Quayle, will tell you the plural of Mouse is Mice.  They LIE.

Well, all the dictionaries I have seen tells me that the plural of Mouse is
Mice. Where do I get a more reliable dictionary?

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From: hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra)
Subject: Re: auto program/acc selection
Organization: Department of Philosophy, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:12:17 GMT

selbyr@meena.cc.uregina.ca writes:

>Is there some software that will allow selection of memory resident
>and/or desk accessory files loaded into memory when booting (or which
>files not to be loaded)?

Superboot, Xboot, DeskManager, ....  (many names deleted). Take a look at
atari.archive. Recommended are the first two programs.


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From: brown@dgaust.dg.oz (Fred Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: IBM Emulators
Date: 16 Sep 92 03:01:09 GMT
Organization: Data General Australia, Melbourne

The Supercharger is a stand alone 4.77 Mhz IBM XT emulator. Condor Trading 
U.K. were the world wide distributors for the Supercharger range. In June
'91 Condor announced the Supercharger SC286Plus 16Mhz IBM emulator, only a
few of these units were ever released for sale. The Supercharger ranger are
no longer supported as Condor Trading went into liquidation in April of this 
year owing thousands of pounds to customers, advertisers & staff. I should 
know as these bastards ripped me off $920.00 !!! The Fraud Squad in England
investigated this company for me but they could do little apart from giving
me the German address of the listed owner of Condor Trading. I'm going to 
ask my brother who lives in Germany to look him up...
Rgds
Fred Brown
From: cs2531av@vesta.unm.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Hard disk Defragmenters,  any suggestions?
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:48:28 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <168608AD1.C556212@mizzou1.missouri.edu> C556212@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Jeoff Hines) writes:
>     I have a friend with an IBM that swears by his H.D. defragmenter.  I
>think he uses every day (sometimes twice).  Says that it speeds up his
>read times.  Could this be true?  Is it a good idea to defragment my Hard
>Drive once in a while?
>     If so, where could I find a RELIABLE defragger?  I saw a.a has one,
>but it didn't mention hard disks in the description......
> 
>Thanks.    J.H.              c556212@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu

Defragmenters are mostly marketing hype that your friend seems to have
swallowed whole. Do defraggers make reads faster? They can. It really depends
upon your usage of your HD. If you create and delete lots and lots of files
often, then a defragger might help. All it really does is make sure reads
are done in a contiguous block, instead of taking the time to step here and
step there and thrash all over your drive. If you've the room on your drive,
you can achieve the same thing for NOTHING by copying all your files to a 
partition, deleting all the files from the destination, then copying from the
partition back to the destination. 

CF
From: Curt.Fluegel@f47.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Curt Fluegel)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Mac OS vs. TOS (was Re: Falcon Graphics
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 23:05:04 -0600

 Odd, since the Falcon is official at RETAILING at $799 for the 1 meg no HD
version, seems your math is off...  and the big thing, the mac you are comparing
it will be slower, we have all seen MAC drive access, I dont want to get into
flaming (too late) but the Falcon has true color and DSP, it should not be
compared to a MAc Classic.  Curt

 * Origin: FlightLine BBS {MSP} MN USRdual 612-544-5118 (1:282/47.0)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Hard disk Defragmenters, any suggestions?
From: rfritz@eis.calstate.edu (Ryan Fritz)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 05:27:46 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

sm86+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stefan Monnier) writes:
> I personnally tried such a defragmenter on my HD after
> 1 year of use. I didn't notice any speed difference !
> 
> I think that most of the files you have don't move that much
> (applications, libraries, ...). So that defragmenting a HD
> is only useful once in a while (if it ever is !)
> 
> 	Stefan Monnier

I ran a BBS and have 135 megs worth of hard disk space.  I remember once
running a defragmenter on a drive that had about a thousand files which
had been moved quite a few times.  It sped it up quite a bit, but the
everage user probably does not have that much to speed up.  I also
remember on one occasion crashing my boot C: drive with some lame PD
defrag program.  Just be careful on what you do because it screws with the
FAT sectors...

Ryan Fritz
rfritz@eis.calstate.edu
From: mforget@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Michel Forget)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Communications Software
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 16:52:39 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

joeadato@tcpbbs.pcn.org (Joseph Adato) writes:

- virus@maple.circa.ufl.edu writes:
-
- > Can anyone tell me where I can get communications software that will run on
- > a 1040ST without a hard drive (just one floppy)?  If there is a shareware o
- > public domain program available, please tell me where I can get it.  Please
- > tell me if there is an FTP site or a phone number where I can download.
- >
-
- Have you tried FreezeDried (FZDTerm)?  I don't know if it support Kermit
- but I know it supports just about every other type of down/upload
- protocall.  Also, since the transfer protocall are not built into the
- program but are external modules, any stand alone tranfer protocall can
- be used.
-
You might also want to try ShadowTerm II, which is availableon GEnie.  It is
Shareware, but costs less than Freeze Dried Terminal, and it also supports
external protocols.  It will run on a 520ST, so memory is not a problem.  The
demonstration version available on GEnie has everything enabled so that you can
look around, and a thirty minute time limit.  One of the main advantages that
ShadowTerm II has over Freeze Dried Terminal is a GEM interface.  It is easy to
get at your accessories.  I would say that it matches up with Freeze Dried
Terminal in all other areas with the exception of emulations.  ShadowTerm II
does not do any yet.

If you do not have a GEnie account, you can get the program directly from me.
E-Mail me for information on that.

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<<               Michel Forget                  >>
<<   The Key:  Spirit over mind over matter.    >>
<<  ------------------------------------------  >>
<<  *Author of ShadowTerm II for the Atari ST*  >>
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From: Terry.Soderman@f47.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Terry Soderman)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: I GIVE UP --- HELP
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1992 03:41:02 -0600

I've been out of touch for a while and now I see there is a new
LZH out there (lh5).   How does one get a LZH file that will un-LZH
a lh5 file.
 
I have LZH201J.lzh that is supposed to achive this goal except that
it is a (lh5) file and I can't un-LZH it.
 
What file out there does this that is not in (lh5)?  such as a tos or
ttp or arc or zip etc. etc.
 
I'm running a 1meg 520ST w/2 double floppies if that makes a dif.
 
Any help would be appreciated.  THANKS IN ADVANCE
 
                                 
                                 T.S.

 * Origin: FlightLine BBS {MSP} MN USRdual 612-544-5118 (1:282/47.0)
From: gaertner@rz-berlin.mpg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Tek terminal emulation program?
Date: 6 Sep 92 18:54:34 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum MPG Berlin

In article <LMH.92Sep6003506@luke.lcs.mit.edu>, lmh@medg.lcs.mit.edu writes:
> 
> Does anyone know if there exist any terminal emulation program for the
> ST/TT that does Tek terminal emulations?
> 
> Thanx in advance,
> 
> - Minghsun Liu
>   lmh@MIT.Edu

Uniterm 2.0e has a Tektronix emulation built in; you should get it from
atari.archive.umich.edu  .

Ralf

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  Ralf Gaertner    Gaertner@rz-berlin.mpg.de
From: kjohnson@castor.cs.uga.edu (Kristopher Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Mac OS vs. TOS (was Re: Falcon Graphics
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:51:37 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <2AAC7AAE.22683@news.service.uci.edu> jvance@maxwell.oac.uci.edu (Joachim Vance) writes:
>  You are, of course, comparing the street price of the Mac with the
>suggested list of the bare bones Falcon.  
>  I predict that a good street price of the 4meg 65 HD Falcon will be
>less than $1199.  Or you could do it yourself for about that much.  Now
>for about the same price and same storage space, which one is better?
>  I'll pick the one with built-in DSP, amazing sound, and a *lot* more
>colors than black and white.  Plus something that's not limited to a
>16-bit bus.  Granted, to make it fair you have to toss in the cost of
>a monitor for the Falcon (let's say ~$300).  But you can't get all the
>built-in features of the Falcon for the Classic II for even double
>that amount.
>  The Classic II loses in hardware features against the Falcon hands
>down.
>
>  Software may be a different story, but I'm expecting to see some
>pretty neat stuff coming out soon to take advantage of the Falcon's
>features.

I agree and have to say that I'm getting sick of hearing people
compare SELLING prices of one computer with LIST prices of 
another.  It doesn't make any sense.  The Mac Classic II 4/40's 
retail price is $1499, which is $100 more than the Falcon030 
4/65's retail price.  Try THAT for comparison! <grin>

Steve
From: ralph@laas.fr (Ralph P. Sobek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Errors when dumping EMACS 18.58
Date: 5 Sep 92 15:39:55 GMT
	<1992Sep3.075541.12348@hasler.ascom.ch>
Organization: LAAS-CNRS France
In-reply-to: PAULETTI@biel.be.tech.ascom.ch's message of 3 Sep 92 07:55:41 GMT

Woe!  Partner!

>>>>> On 3 Sep 92 07:55:41 GMT, PAULETTI@biel.be.tech.ascom.ch (Pauletti Andreas) said:

AP> As I only have the binaries I don't know if and how I must specify the
AP> PURESIZE parameter. I hope first method with copying the *.elc files into
AP> the e-bin directory works.

The *.elc files *should* be in the e-lisp directory, where the *.el
files are.  Remember that *.elc files are portable between Ataris and
Unix boxes like Sun's.  That way no need to recompile for most the
stuff.

Enjoy,

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: marsh@gwdgv1.gwdg.de
Subject: Can Falcon do that?
Reply-To: marsh@gwdgv1.gwdg.de
Organization: GWDG Goettingen, F.R.Germany
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 15:25:22 GMT

Hi netters,
  I have been reading this group for I while now and followed the
discussion on the Falcon. I am wondering if the following idea could
be realized on the Falcon:
  I heard that some of the new CD-ROM players, in addition to the higher
transfer speed due to SCSI-II and photo CD support, will also be able
to read normal audio CDs and send the digital audio data through the
SCSI-II port towards the computer. Than one could let the DSP to operate
on the incoming audio data in real time and than send it to the built in
DA converter, or an external one through the DSP interface, than to the
HiFi amp. Or, alternatively, one could send the data still in the digital
domain to a DAT recorder interfaced to the DSP port. To my knowledge there
should be no quality loss since the DSP can be sync-ed to an external
oscillator (if my understanding on its connector is right) like that of
a DAT.
  I see no reason why this should not work. And if it does than the Falcon
will really revolutionize the music industry. The question is wether there
is good software available before others wake up. The idea of having DSP,
SCSI-II, DA/AD combined with multitasking and ST compattibility is as an
important milestone as the built-in MIDI was.
  Possibilities include realtime multiband filtering/equalization. Or I
can imagine a software which inputs the frequency response curve of your
HiFi loudspeakers and corrects for that, still in the digital domain and
in realtime, making the final response as flat as possible. This is the
principle how the new Philips DSS digital speakers work (for above $5000).
Or one can make various spatial simulations. I think anyone could
continue. To start you only need, in addition to the computer, a modern
CD-ROM player and later if someone is going into that direction you can
gradually build up a fully digital sound editing mastering system by
adding a digital DAT/DSP interface, 1 or 2 DATs (with high quality AD/DA
converters, sync option, and copy protection control options), and
data storage devices of course. And all this is to be combined with the
existing MIDI arsenal. I beleive this will be reality.
  But, Atari please get cracken beacuse Apple is also working on a machine
with DSP/SCSI-II/DA/AD capabilities (rumored as Cyclon) and probably C= is
also trying to follow this neat idea.
  I will change location very soon and I don't know when I have access to
the net again. So please forgive me if I can't reply to the replies of this
message within the usual and acceptable period of time. I will try to join
to this group as soon as possible.

  Tibor.

P.S. Has anyone ever compared Cubase ST and Cubase Windows? I have the
impression that Cubase Windows on 33MHz 386 PC with SVGA is much much
less capable than Cubase ST on my good old 8Mhz 1040STFM concerning
especially realtime related functions.
From: hrs@aber.ac.uk (Herbert Martin Sauro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon Graphics
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:56:26 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

In article <5pyyc3q@rpi.edu> oyakea@vccsouth04.its.rpi.edu (Amalaye Oyake) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.124510.2938@aber.ac.uk> hrs@aber.ac.uk (Herbert Martin Sauro) writes:
>>Having now seen the Falcon at first hand (ie at the show) I was a bit

...loads of stuff...

>Falcon. And don't expect superior Pc emulation or 386+387 combination, remember the ABAQ, cp/m for 8-bit, TT unix ( not yet released), and the STT no dealer in the U.S. knows what it is and what means to a local harry.
>c) Pray for a multiprocessing feature on the Falcon040 e.g. (68000+486 with VMe
>+ EISA), also realise the Falcon has no external floppy port ( as noted in the sept issue of Atari advantage). Commodore is going to see hell (A600 and A500 are well behind the times sorry to say
>from Rensselaer Poly NY. 
Please  also send info on all ST ftp addresses and somexplanation 
on WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PARSEC GRAPHIC INTERFACE.
>
>AMAL THE ACE 

I think the PARSEC Graphics board got juncked and they prodcuced instead
a cheaper mono graphics card called reflex board
which I think is doing ok. 

Herb
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From: dud@hardy.u.washington.edu (Daniel Aylward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: TT030 & DynaCADD
Date: 10 Sep 92 02:51:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Sep10.025154.24824
Organization: University of Washington

My Uncle uses Drafix for a huge amount of CADD work he does on his Mega
ST.  He shelled out $700 for DynaCADD, but it was MUCH slower than Drafix
(even though he has a math coprocessor), so it's just collecting dust. 
When I got my Mega STe, he tried running it on it.  I didn't have a
coprocessor, so it was even more unbearably slow than the mega!  Funny
thing was, it ran without the dongle in the cartridge port!  Now that I
have my TT, my uncle tried running it on it.  It should be MUCH faster;
faster & better coprocessor (68882 instead of 68881), and a 32 MHz 68030. 
BUT... it didn't run!  It thought the dongle wasn't there!  Weird that it
ran without the dongle on the MegaSTe and didn't run even with it on the
TT!  I've heard rumors that the cartridge port on TT's is a bit different
from that of ST's & that cartridges need to be modified before they will
work.  How would one go about doing this on the DynaCADD dongle?  Anyone
have similar experiences?

Dan Aylward
dud@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra)
Subject: Re: selective accessories at boot
Organization: Department of Philosophy, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:06:18 GMT

selbyr@meena.cc.uregina.ca writes:

>Is there some software out there that will allow me to select which,
>if any, of the memory resident programs and desk accessories I want
>loaded when booting the computer from the hard drive? If so, is it pd?
>Shareware? Where can it be obtained? Thanks.

Ha! This is serious, isn't it? :)
Yes, there are tons of programs that do exactly this - and lots of them are
pd. two programs I have a lot of experience with are 'Superboot' and Xboot'.
Both do a very good job and I don't know which one I prefer.
Take a look at atri.archive.umich.edu - I'm sure they have the thing you're
looking for.


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Department of Philosophy              -------------------------------------
University of Utrecht                     All opinions expressed above
The Netherlands                               are pure coincidence 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: oddjob@oz.plymouth.edu (Andrew C. Stoffel)
Subject: Re: IBM Emulators
Reply-To: oddjob@oz.plymouth.edu (Andrew C. Stoffel)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 02:39:00 GMT

Does someone have a list of IBM-"emulators" for Atari ST series
computers ? Is there a portion of a FAQ that mentions them ??

Prices (list/market) would be nice also.....

Specifically...... what can one stick in/attach to a Mega ST or a Mega
STe to get it running MS Windows (I'd be happy with 3.0)....

Someone here has a Mega ST 2 and he'd like to run some MS-DOS stuff
and I'd like to be able to run some MS-DOS stuff on my mega STe.....

WHat ? Well, I can't speak for the other person..... but for myself...
I'm working with DEC's All-in-1 product and I'd like to try out their
All-in-1 Desktop For PC's so I can send mail to/from my ST at home...
without having to get UUCP running on a machine at work & on my ST...
and since the chances of DEC ever writing/supporting a similar product
on the ST are slim to none I'd like to use a PC emulator on my ST and
save the Powerbook I plan on getting for Hypercard and other innocuous
activities 

(Can we say "We live in a multivendor environment :-)so why not take
advantage of it ?" ???)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: dbruyne@reks.uia.ac.be (Karel De Bruyne)
Subject: PD CAD-package
Organization: U.I.A.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 06:52:07 GMT

Hi there,

I'm looking for a small CAD-package for an ST. PD or Shareware if possible.

thanks,

Karel De Bruyne
Computer Centre
University of Antwerp (UIA)
Belgium
From: michael@dime.cs.umass.edu (Michael Kieras)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: superior designs? (was Re: Falcon Graphics)
Date: 4 Sep 92 23:44:31 GMT
Reply-To: michael@dime.cs.umass.edu (Michael Kieras)
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

In article <52982@dime.cs.umass.edu> michael@dime.cs.umass.edu (Michael Kieras) writes:
>let's me throw all of the cables behind my desk, I wouldn't even have an
 ^^^^^

Ack!  This, of course, should be "lets."


michael@cs.umass.edu
From: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: PERFPICH.TOS v1.1 posted to a.a
Date: 9 Sep 92 01:10:53 GMT
Reply-To: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au

In <laq50iINNa5e@aludra.usc.edu> baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer) writes:

>	Nearly every self-extracting archiver 
>out there is one that was ported from other systems (ie zip,etc.).  And most
>of them can still be extracted/viewed as a normal compressed file (ie you can
>unzip a zipped .sea on your UNIX host).  So using a .sea is not a bad idea.

And exactly how are we supposed to know which archiver to try to use on the

	"PERFPICH.TOS"

file?  "lha"? "zip"? "zoo"? "lharc"? "arc"? "arj"? "UNTOS"?


Let's face it, anyone with access to these distributable files will have
access to programs to extract them.  Adding to the download time by including
all the code to un-LHARC or un-PKZIP (UNCOMPRESSED) to all of these Self
Extracting Archives is not just a pain in the neck, but also a waste of
storage space, bandwidth and time.

Let's all use ZOO, LHA, LHARC, ARC, ZIP, TAR, COMPRESS, etc.

ie. standard formats that can clearly be extracted on-site.



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