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From: henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan)
Subject: Re: Fixed amount of paint per player..
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:06:44 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <1992Nov18.040045.879@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> johnm@cory.Berkeley.EDU (John D. Mitchell) writes:
>As for regular weekend fun playing, I'd like to see something similar but I
>don't see as how you'd be able to enforce it effectively.  From my
>experience, there's just too many people who like to hose.

I agrre, and don't forget to include people who feel they have to hose just to
stay in the game.  Almost every new person person I met this year on the field
feel that their first paintgun must be a semi-auto and too many experienced
players (meaning they have their own equipment) rely less on their brains and
more on their equipment to "keep up with the Jones".

-- 
" I am from the planet Larson on the far side of the Galaxy" said the
space cow invading St. Canard -Dark Wing Duck

HenryC@Panix.Com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: bru@chaucer.cc.bellcore.com (25815-leary)
Subject: Remote Setups
Reply-To: bru@chaucer.cc.bellcore.com
Organization: Bellcore, Piscatawy, NJ
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 18:18:00 GMT

I am thinking of setting up my Automag with a remote bottle on the
belt and runnung the 48" hose under my clothing and out the sleeve.
This, of course, is to maintain a "heated" line and allow play in colder 
weather.  A couple of questions:

1. What temperatures should I expect to beable to play in?

2. Does anyone know of a quick release device so that I can easily disconnect
   the hose from the back of the gun?

3. I am also looking for a fitting for the bottle end of the line that has
   an on/off valve in it.  That way I can shut the ait off at the bottle and
   disconnect the gun at the sleeve without having to go through major 
   gyrations.

Incidentally, my Indian Springs 200 loader jams every once in a while since
the Automag has no (very little) kick or vibration when firing.

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*Bruce								*
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From: albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku)
Subject: Re: Fixed amount of paint per player..
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:51:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.040045.879@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> johnm@cory.Berkeley.EDU (John D. Mitchell) writes:
>
>As for regular weekend fun playing, I'd like to see something similar but I
>don't see as how you'd be able to enforce it effectively.  From my
>experience, there's just too many people who like to hose.

What's there to enforce?  After frisking players (at the chrono) and
lketting them onto the field.  If they wanna hose their 40 rounds, let 'em.
After that they can play decoy. ^_^

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku)
Subject: Re: Fixed amount of paint per player..
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:40:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.184828.17069@sbctri.sbc.com> mas@sbctri.tri.sbc.com (Marc A. Sullivan) writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.195141.9273@netcom.com>, albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku) writes:
>
>|> What's there to enforce?  After frisking players (at the chrono) and
>|> lketting them onto the field.  If they wanna hose their 40 rounds, let 'em.
>|> After that they can play decoy. ^_^
>|> 
>
>or you could just rely on the honor system.  Load 40 rounds into your
>hopper and don't reload.  If anyone is consistently cheating it will be
>real obvious.  (Heh, that guy just fired 50 rounds at me!)

It could get really obvious...the entire field is out of paint except for
one guy still blazing away. ^_^
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Organization: Freshman, Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:05:43 -0500 
From: Alexander Franklin Rose <ar2z+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: IRONMAN on other ways to refer to Paintpaball

   I think that this discussion is an important one and definately
should be on the net.  In my opinion any name with "war" or "combat" in
any context to the sport is not a good thing.  These names should be
reserverved for actual military or police training where the attempt to
make killing the issue over the sport.  Names for the sport include
splatball, action pursuit, fun in the woods etc..  The real issue is not
what you call it but what it means to you.

        Zander of the IRONMEN
From: mtnbiker@singletrack.EBay.Sun.COM (Daniel Abernethy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: How do you like your semiauto?
Date: 18 Nov 1992 17:09:27 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Reply-To: mtnbiker@singletrack.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: singletrack.ebay.sun.com

>IMO, the VL 2000 is a cool piece of technology that's not worth the price
>(~ $70 I believe) to me.  I now use the largest size Indian Springs hopper
>(200 rounds or so) and since a) it has a longer neck than a lot of other
>hoppers b) it has that grove/channel and c) the Pro/Am has a fair bit of
>recoil I find that I can blast away (when I want to waste paint of course
>:-) with no problem.  It works beautifully for my normal firing pattern of
>two and three (okay, sometime four) round bursts.  Accuracy is improved and
>paint usage becomes reasonable.


John,

I got a team discount on the hopper ~$60.00 and then removed the
end cap and sealed it off to create a 180rd hopper.

Gun hits count and I have shot at many hoppers my self, so the
smaller the profile the better for me.  The I.S. hopper is 
like having a barrage balloon on your gun, IMO.  In certain
situations having trouble free feeding in order to supress opposition
to aid in a push is necessary.  I tend to use three round bursts, but
in things like speedball, and pushes, I have to let paint fly to aid my team.

On the typhoon subject, I know Bud Orr is a reputable manufacturer and
he stands behind his product much like Tippman does, and that is a plus
in my book.  When spending this kind of money on a toy, I expect more than
an "as is"/"Brakelight" warranty.  Who makes the typhoon??



c-ya 

Danimal

ADG



Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: pan_jt@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jeffery Tai Pan)
Subject: Razorback Classic
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:58:53 GMT

Hi all!
	I was wondering if anyone has or knows anything about the razorback
classic. I bought the gun a couple of months ago at the big game at Jack
Frost mountain. Anyway, I began to have air leaking problems a short while
after I began using it. I brought the gun to a pro shop where they looked at
the cup seal...only to find that it didn't have one!!!
	Instead of the traditional cup seal, it had a funky kinda setup
where the back of the valve stem has a short threaded rod onto which a
teflon or nylon washer is held on by a small nut. The airsmith said I should
just replace it with a new genuine article cup seal. He gave me a temporary
fix by heating the washer with a lighter and then pressing the seal in
place. It seemed to work for a while, but it's leaking again. Especially
after I use the gun on autotrigger.
	Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

					Thanks in advance,
						Jeff Pan
						pan_jt@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan)
Subject: Re: Fixed amount of paint per player..
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:44:53 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <1992Nov17.142001.2373@gacvx2.gac.edu> emiddlec@mora.gac.edu (Eric Middlecamp) writes:
>What do you all think of this? I think it would make the game more fun to
>have a limited amount of paint for each person playing. (Say.. 40 balls 
>per round?)
>
>Opinions?

From the player's point of view, its a great a idea.  Players will be saving
money in paint costs, concentrate more on tactics, and less likely chance of
being lit up.
For the field owner, its a money losing idea.  Players won't be spending as
much money on paint (no more 1/2 case per person sales), have to set up a
separate group for players which require additional referees, and 
administration.
I heard alot about the success of California stockgun games, but none of the
fields up here feel they can make enough profit to implement it on a routine
basis.

-- 
" I am from the planet Larson on the far side of the Galaxy" said the
space cow invading St. Canard -Dark Wing Duck

HenryC@Panix.Com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: agillum@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Aaron C Gillum)
Subject: Re: Price Lists
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:53:37 GMT

In article <gt1158.2bwy@terapin.com> gt1158@terapin.com (Guillermo Talamantes)
writes:
>
>O.K. guys, let's cool it with the Price Posts. Let's not try to turn this grou
p
>into an on-line catalog by different stores and suppliers. I mean, why not jus
t
>start a new gropup called alt.paintball.slaes?
>We could have many companies, stores, suppliers, etc., post their price lists
>and try to out-do each other in a BBS price battle. Yeah, why not invite the
>big guys over, TASO, PMI, AGD, ICS, USI, CCI, WGP, SI, Tippmann along with som
e
>growing stores like Foxhunters, PBSoM, PB Paradise, Petaluma PB, Pacific Suppl
y
>PB, TAPS, Delta Archery, DRACO and have them all beat each others prices.  But
>come on, let's keep this group away from becomming too comercialized.
>Otherwise, this group will be all mixed up between tips, questions, and
>*promotions*. So how about it? Does a alt.paintball.sales soun good? I think w
e
>really need it, Unless we just discourage price post altogether. Oh well
>LATER...
>
>
>
>        KEEP
>              THOSE
>                     BALLS
>                            FLYING!!!

When the talk about prices gets in the way of the normal discussions, THEN it 
will be a problem. Paintball uses your money. This group is about paintball. 
This group is about spending your money on painball.
From: henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: How do you like your semiauto?
Date: 18 Nov 92 01:43:20 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <1992Nov17.164120.8096@eng.ufl.edu> bjs@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian J. Smith) writes:
>the ball up.  PRO/AM + SMARTPARTS = GOOD BUY.... On a side note, AutoMag +
>Smart Parts = Nochange.  I am kinda pissed about this I could have gotten
>a Ultra Dot.

You could always sell off your sp barrel.  BTW if anyone has a sp barrel for
the Pro-Am they want to sell cheap, let me know.

I'm very surprised since I heard alot about All Americans using the Auto-Mag
and how they have made a special am sp barrel that is much better than 
anything else on the market.

>Ya, It would be interesting, don't know if it really helps though, the slow
>part of the Pro/Am is it cycling.  BTW how did you like that honest 
>recommendation from one of the employees of PSofM.

I was thrown off a little when the other Prodigy people pointed out that the
poster works for Prodigy (he didn't mention that in his msg).
On a bright note, Prodigy is suppose to have a mail gateway for the internet
set-up soemtime next year.


>
>Bjs (MJPC20E) on Prodigy
>
HenryC (cjgb44a)>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>-- 
>
>Brian J. Smith           Systems Manager CMT Group   Email: bjs@phys.ufl.edu
>Department of Physics	    283 Williamson Hall      Fax:     (904) 392-0524 
>University of Florida 	   Gainesville, FL 32611     Voice:   (904) 392-5339


-- 
" I am from the planet Larson on the far side of the Galaxy" said the
space cow invading St. Canard -Dark Wing Duck

HenryC@Panix.Com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: iain@ee.ryerson.ca (Iain Campbell)
Subject: Re: Stupid People (Grade crossings)
Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute, Toronto
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:51:36 GMT

In article <1e475kINNc1q@gap.caltech.edu> pvmason@cco.caltech.edu (Peter V. Mason) writes:
>
>BTW, boneheads along the SP cut along Mission going east from LA
>used to throw rocks at the trains.  Since they were about eye-to-eye
>with the cabs, they managed to prang a couple of engineers.  Does this
>happen elsewhere? 
>

I am a regular commuter on the Toronto-Barrie GO train.  We have had
several instances on my train of this.  Going through the Parkdale
area of Toronto, an area politely called "economically disadvantaged",
things (heavy things, by the sound of it) have been dropped on the 
roof of the train from pedestrian overpasses.  Also, I once watched
a kid drawing a bead on us with one of those wrist slingshots.  
You can bet I ducked down below the window mighty quick!!

Iain

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From: Steven.Schultz <Steven.Schultz@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: magazines, books, video for sale UPDATE
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:37:30 GMT

For sale:
 
MAGAZINES:
NOTE: I will look for a specific item or provide an index on request.
 
TRAINS:
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TRAINS ILLUSTRATED:
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PASSENGER TRAIN JOURNAL:
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BOOKS:
Southeastern Wisconsin Regional Planning Commission Community
Assistance Planning Report #30: Whitewater Area Rail Service Plan
 
High Green to Marceline: Santa Fe in Color Series Volume 1 by Joe
McMillan
 
The Lake Superior Iron Ore Railroads by Patrick C. Dorin
 
Milwaukee Road Narrow Guage: The Chicago, Bellevue, Cascade, and
Western, Iowa's Slim Princess by John Tigges and Jon Jacobson
 
VIDEO:
Pentrex Preview Volume 1 and 2, 40 minutes, VHS, 1988
 
Make an offer on these items.

-- 
Steve Schultz     Steven.Schultz@mixcom.com
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: Prime Mover Software Development <U93_PTUPACZE@VAXC.STEVENS-TECH.EDU>
Subject: Re: GE chugging
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Organization: Indiana University
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 05:16:49 GMT
X-Vms-To: IN%"rec.railroad@silver.ucs.indiana.edu"

That funny noise that GE DASH-8's spit out every once in a while (and I notice 
this all the time on the Susquehanna B40-8's) is the air compressor kicking 
in. The radiator fan is usually spinning most of the time (remember, unlike 
EMD's, the GE just has one BIG fan, and it's gotta keep going to keep that 
4000 hp prime mover cool!). The sound is identifiably by a quick two-toned 
"tweeting noise," and then a quick stammering noise for about 10 seconds. If 
anyone's ever used a home air compressor, it's virtually the same sound 
(albeit at a lower pitch, due to the size of this compressor). Another 
annoying thing about GE's (particularly the newer ones, especially ones built 
in the past year or so) is that "rat-a-tat" sound they make 90% of the time, 
letting out built-up air...

GE's exhaust silencer works, but find a big grade and a big train - and it'll 
bring back memories!

   - Paul Tupaczewski
     Stevens Tech
     Hoboken, NJ
     u93_ptupacze@vaxa.stevens-tech.edu
From: wmcfadde@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (William McFadden)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: 717gif
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:43:41 GMT
Organization: Ohio University CS Dept,. Athens

My sysadmin doesn't give us access to the alt.binaries.pictures.* newsgroups.
Can you consider posting this pictures, and others like it to this newsgroup,
or to an FTP site, such as wuarchive?

Thanks.
Eric. 
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From: Prime Mover Software Development <U93_PTUPACZE@VAXC.STEVENS-TECH.EDU>
Subject: Re: GE chugging
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII
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Organization: Indiana University
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:19:14 GMT
X-Vms-To: IN%"rec.railroad@silver.ucs.indiana.edu"

In a previous article, Bill Gripp writes:

>What is really dramatic is to find a U34CH which needs a tune up.  Catch
>one of those accelerating from a station stop and not only do you get
>that chug, but black smoke that almost rivals the best Alcos!

Nowadays, this is pretty much every one of them! I've noticed when I go home 
and look at these beasts leaving town that accompanying the stalk-chopper 
sound is a nice little amount of flame/sparks out the stack (!), bright orange 
shooting out about a foot. This always surprised the hell out of me. 
Unfortunately, their lives are not much longer... I've alreay seen a couple of 
them cannibalized, as well as spare C trucks on flat cars at the MMC...


>Speaking of Alco, ever notice how the older ones idle just above
>"stall"?  I remember listening to CNJ RS3's and NYS&W RS1's idling.
>You'd swear they would stall at any moment.  But they never did, they
>just kept on.

Yeah, the Morristown & Erie Centuries do that too! It sound like they're 
revving up, then slowly die down almost until they stop, then magically, rev 
up again! I'll have to ask my brother the mechanic about that one!

    - Paul Tupaczewski
      Stevens Tech
      Hoboken, NJ
      u93_ptupacze@vaxa.stevens-tech.edu



Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: jadams@vixen.cc.bellcore.com (adams,john)
Subject: Re: Staten Island Rapid Transit
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 14:02:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.192446.5862@news.columbia.edu> brennan@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Joseph Brennan) writes:
>santafe@watserv.ucr.edu (michael a parisi) asked about SIRT on Staten
>Island in New York.
>
>By 1960 the ferry connection from Tottenville to Perth Amboy was abandoned.
>
>It's a nice ride.  Tottenville is small-town America; it's pretty
>weird to see New York City Police cars cruising.  You can eat in a
>diner and go look at the Revolutionary-era Conference House on the
>shore.
>
>--Joe Brennan
>
Thanks Joe. Your account caused me to recall the early 1950's when my mother would 
take me with her into NYC from Morgan, NJ  (On the banks of the Cheesequake Creek)
via the following adventurous route:  CNJ passenger train from Morgan (Yes, Morgan
had a passenger shed) to Perth Amboy, then a vigorous (My Mother was aerobic
before aerobic was in vogue) walk down to the Tottenville ferry. (We took the bus
when it rained since the trolleys were discontinued on Smith Street)  I still recall
the guys who used to play and sing aboard the ferry on the short ride to
Tottenville.  Then the Rat Trap (SI Rapid Transit) ride to St. George (Best part of
that ride was looking out the front of the car at signals, etc.).  NYC ferry to
South Ferry (Battery Park).  IRT subway up 7th Avenue to Macy's.   A couple of
hours of shopping and then the reverse process.  It's been over forty years since
those days :-<, I wonder if the current generation of kids will have similar
recollections of trips to "the mall"?  Oh yes, lest I forget; when we were
particularly flush, we'd take the train ALL THE WAY to Liberty Street terminal in
Jersey City.  
-- 
Jack (John) Adams			| Bellcore NVC 2Z-220
(908) 758-5372 {Voice}			| (908) 758-4389 {Facsimile}
jadams@vixen.bellcore.com		| kahuna@attmail.com
	I used to be lost in the shuffle, now I shuffle along with the lost!
From: romeo@niagara.Tymnet.COM (Michael Stimac)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Maximum Flatcar Length?
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:06:24 GMT
Organization: BT North America (Tymnet)

In article <1992Nov16.144840.6429@newstand.syr.edu> cwebster@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Chris Webster) writes:
>What is the longest load that can be carried on a flatcar?  I suspect
>it's about 90 feet, but I thought I'd check. (North American standards)
>
>This information is for a Civil Engineering Bridge Design Class.  We're
>doing I-beam girder bridges.  If the beam is long enough, we don't have
>to splice it, which is nice.. it makes the calculation easier. :)

Well, your article header asks one question, and the body of your
message asks a different question. I assume from the explanation
about a class that you want to know the longest load that can
be carried by railway in North America.

FYI, a single beam can be carried by more than one car. Several
variations are possible, including bearing the load weight on
one car and having idler cars on both ends to ride 'under' the
ends of the beam sticking out. Another way is to have the load
supported by two 'end' cars with one (or more) idler cars inbetween
the end cars.

Railroads routinely carry lengths of "continuous" rail which are
thousands of yards long (on multiple flat cars, obviously). 

I'm pretty sure you could load up a beam that was a couple hundred
feet long, but you'd have to check with AAR loading rules/techniques.
Check with the American Association of Railroads, or with the
freight service department of a railroad that has a customer service
office nearby.

An upper bound would be when the height of your beam to be
self-supporting (for its length) would exceed allowable RR
verticle clearances, or when its width/length would not
clear side-limits on curves. 

Michael Stimac
-- 
Michael Stimac
(415) 355-8889
romeo@tymnet.com
These opinions are not necessarily anyone's but my own.
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: smb@ulysses.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
Subject: Re: bullet train death
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:28:14 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <1992Nov19.233052.26035@Princeton.EDU>, ctillier@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Clemens Emmanuel Tillier) writes:
> Strange... At least in France, the high-speed ROW is flanked on both sides by
> a fence and a ditch, so that it would be impossible to "run across a field
> and onto the tracks"...

A later article noted that this line, the Yamagata Shinkansen, is
considered by some to be prone to accidents, since it has ~80 ``road
crossings''.

Yah, that struck me as strange, too.
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: anand@watson.ibm.com ()
Subject: GE (and ALCO) chugging
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:51:53 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center


The talk of chugging reminded me that all the diesel locomotives in
India are of Alco design. When accelerating, these engines would make a
loud chak-chak sound.

Incidentally, this engine was I belive designed by Alco for export. I
have seen the same design in photos of Spanish railways and various
railways in South America. These engines look approximately like high-hood
GPs. You can make out their Alco heritage by the design of their trucks
(or bogies).

R. Anand
anand@watson.ibm.com