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Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Wednesday, 7 Oct 1992 10:03:59 EST
From: <ADMN8653@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject:    GTS Technical Specifications

The local Yamaha dealer's of Toronto  had Yamaha of Japan in on the
weekend to show the new 1993 bikes.  One of the bikes was the
GTS1000A.  The dealer (Cycle World West) had a chance to test drive
the GTS1000A and also received a brochure (spelling ??). Here is a
list of the spec's.

Engine
 type               4 stroke, liquid-cooled DOHC 5 valve, parallel four
 Displacement       1002 cc
 Bore & stroke      75.5 x 56 mm
 Compression Ratio  10.8:1
 Maximum Torque     10.4 kg-m (75.2 ft-lbs) @6500 rpm
 Carburetion        EFI
 Ignition           Transistorized (digital)
 Starter System     Electric
 Lubrication        Wet sump
 Oil Capacity       3.2 litres (2.8 imp qt)
 Transmission       5-speed constant mesh
 Final transmition  Chain Drive

Chassis
 Overall Length     2170 mm (85.4")
 Overall width      700  mm (27.6")
 Overall height     1320 mm (52.0")
 Wheelbase          1495 mm (58.9")
 Ground Clearance   135  mm (5.3")
 Seat Height        795  mm (31.3")
 Dry Weight         251 kg (553 lbs)
 Fuel tank capacity 20.0 litres (4.4 imp gal)
 Front suspension   Swingarm
 Rear suspension    Monocross
 Front brake        Single 320 mm disc
 Rear brake         Single 267 mm disc
 Front tire         130/60 ZR17
 Rear tire          170/60 ZR17
 Colour             Deep Red Cocktail 2


The bike will come equipped with ABS.  I asked about the lack of
hard luggage but the dealer never asked (will find out for me).
His impressions of the bike were very favouable (suprise,suprise).
He said it rode with no vibration with a seating position somewhere
beteween a Katana 1100 and a FJ1200.  The bike will be restricted
to 100 horsepower in both Europe and Canada (ie. we are getting the
European model).  Supposedly the engine has been tuned for monster
midrange power, dealer quote " will beat the FZR1000 in a 0-60 time
trial).  The bike looks the same as the picture in the November
Motorcyclist mag.  Should be available in December, for sure in the
spring.  If any body has any questions I'd be happy to ask the
dealer for you....








Dave Dusseldorp                         | "It's every man's fantasy to
DOD # 4004                              |  be kept by a woman with a
'90 ST1100                              |  skirt as short as the life
EMAIL ADMN8653@RYEVM.RYERSON.CA         |  span of the man she chooses"
RYERSON POLYTECHNICAL INSTITUTE         |     AL BUNDY....
From: tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi <tcora>)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: We are sick and tired!!
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:59:00 GMT
Organization: Electric Armts Div, US Army ARDEC, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ

ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan - Mick) writes:
>In a previous article, tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi <tcora>) said:
>:- ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan - Mick) writes:
>:- >
>:- >	this from a person who isnt even on internet!!! ;)
>:- 
>:- NEWBIE ALERT!
>:- 
>:- Clue? "isnt even on internet"
>:- 
>:- All those .edu, freshman, Internet ignorant newbies think that IP
>:- connectivity brings with it some magical level of importance and basic
>:- superiority.
>
>	sorry... all guesses wrong... finishing grad student soon-to-be
>	non-.edu poster ... thats me. maybe you should go back to school
>	and take a course in logic?? just a suggestion! ;)

non-.edu? Where the hell is wpi.edu, then, schoolboy? Looks like Worcester
Polytechnic Institute to me.

twit.

>:- What the fuck do they know.
>
>	yeah... you tell us! ;-P

At least I know that colleges in the US fall into the .edu domain, hence
the use of the letters 'e d u' to complete their domain addresses.
-- 
 
                tom coradeschi    <+>    tcora@pica.army.mil
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What to do with old battery?
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:39:37 PDT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <1992Oct14.214402.1182@i88.isc.com>, jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
> In article <1992Oct14.122603.671@halfdome.sf.ca.us> bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
>>In article <3880151@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>, aliamus@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Steve Aliamus) writes:
>>
>>> - the left over battery acid from the new battery?  It came in a plastic
>>>   container, and there is still about a cup of battery acid in it.
>>if you are a resident of san francisco, you can bring noxious
>>chemicals to the recycling place near the cow palace, right off 101.
> Or, if you aren't, you can get a big box of baking soda, dump it
> into a bowl, and slowly add the acid.  When it has stopped foaming
> (and adding more baking soda doesn't cause more foaming), you can wash
> it down your kitchen sink.  Didn't the battery instructions say this?

that may neutralize the acidity, but does it detoxify it?

lotto? 

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
--
From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: 80/81 CB750 s
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: 13 Oct 1992 16:24:25 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Oct13.134404.7709@osf.org>, jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John
S. Morris) wrote:
> 
> I'm think of rebuilding the wif's '77 400F carbs this winter. Two questions -
> is there a mail order Honda parts supplier? and is there a manual which would
> describe rebuilding them?

I've had pretty good luck mail-ordering things from Midwest Action Cycle
(see the back o' the MC mags for #) and the clymer (I know, I know) for
the 750's seems to do a good job of describing the dissassembly/reassembly
of the carbs.
 
> OK, one more question - anyone know a supplier who might sell an oil cooler
> for the 400F?
> 

I found one for my 750 out at Sky Cycle in Lunenberg, they're a fair
sized salvage place out near Whalom Park

| Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834 | DoD #207  AMA #573534|
| Case Western Reserve U. Computer E. and Sci.  | KotNML  /  KotB      |
| "You can lead the house to order, but you     | '81 CB750C           |
| can't make it think"  -William Weld (Gov. Ma.)| '88 Bianchi Limited  |
From: tgrupe@watnxt11.ucr.edu (Todd E. Grupe)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Drinking & Helmets
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:45:27 GMT

> -: 
> -: ---I'd drink to that, but this damned face shield is in the way.
> -: --Has anyone come up with any clever solutions to enable them to
> -: --consume liquid refreshments while suited up?
> 
> Use a straw?

Replace your coolant with Kool-Aid and run an extra hose (with on-off  
valve) up through the face-shield.  Just don't drink too much at a time  
without stopping to refill.

TG   DoD #4043
--
tgrupe@watserv.ucr.edu

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From: lotto@lamia.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley Fashionable == Deaths
Date: 8 Oct 92 12:06:23 GMT
	<LOTTO.92Oct7085723@laura.harvard.edu>
	<1992Oct7.203759.13754@megatek.com>
Organization: Chemistry Dept., Harvard University
In-reply-to: randy@megatek.com's message of 7 Oct 92 20:37:59 GMT

>>>>> On 7 Oct 92 20:37:59 GMT, randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis) said:

Randy> In article <LOTTO.92Oct7085723@laura.harvard.edu> lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto) writes:
>>>>> On 6 Oct 92 21:01:58 GMT, randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis) said:
Randy>   I'll take that bet.  The stats show that the death rate for HD is
Randy> higher for miles traveled by each type of bike...

Me> This is a very interesting statistic, especially because it
Me> contradicts most other data that I am familiar with.  Could you please
Me> cite your source in a way that I can attempt to retrieve it?

Randy>   Nope, I made it up.  Just to bug Jim Groh (which it sure seems to

Oh.  Welcome to the Dick Floyd school of motorcycle safety :-(

Randy> Stats can be made to say anything you want...
Randy> Personal experience, friends that are (were) cops and a girlfriend and
Randy> other friends that work at hospital trauma rooms that are aware of
Randy> bikes tend to feel that Harley's are over-represented in the larger
Randy> bike accidents

Have you looked at the market share recently?  They are not
over-represented, there are just more of them.

Randy>   Well, I *do* tend to personally think that a Harley is more dangerous
Randy> in traffic than a more nimble (read: lighter, better handling) bike.

It is no more dangerous in traffic than any other motorcycle,
statistics or no.  Motorcycles are not dangerous, it is the operation
of them which is risky.  Unlike the bike itself, operation is a
continuously variable phenonmenon.  Street motorcycle operation is
mostly a MENTAL skill.  Ignoring the scope and limitations of the
rider, the environment, or the equipment  prevents you from managing
those risks.  No two motorcycles handle the same way.  Harleys tend to
be more visible in traffic, do not bog down under load, provide
relatively even power output and good throttle control.  All of these
things can be used to riders advantage if they are encorporated into
his/her riding style on that motorcycle.  Likewise, a lighter, better
handling motorcycle can be ridden in a relatively safe manner taking
it's limitations into account.  It is a function of the rider.

You may not enjoy the style of riding that (the particular model of)
Harley-Davidson motorcycles (you feel represent the marque) were
designed for.  That does not make THEM dangerous, it makes YOU a
hazard on one.  You accuse Harley riders of being deluded and
narrow-minded, but you demonstrate the same behavior!  If you could
transcend your narrow view of waht makes motorcycling enjoyable,
perhaps you could appreciate all marques a little more.
--
Jerry Lotto <lotto@lhasa.harvard.edu>         MSFCI, HOGSSC, BCSO, AMA, DoD #18
Chemistry Dept., Harvard Univ.  "It's my Harley, and I'll ride if I want to..."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Laszlo's continuing, irrational love of BMW twins
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 00:44:39 GMT

garnett@refuge.Colorado.EDU (Santiago de la Paz) writes:

Welcome back James! Do you still remember how to ride?

>I'll bet
>that even after all of Blaine "Binary-Throttle" Gardner's lawless

That's "Trinary-Throttle": Idle, cruise, and WFO.

>terrorizing of the interstates between here and Utah he doesn't do much
>more than wipe an occasional small animal off a fairing

I think Ed Hackett or Phil Stone is in charge of the small animal
collections. I've only got one unconfirmed jackrabbit kill.

> or recharge the
>batteries in that blindingly-bright imitation-sharkskin suit of his.

Nope, I got the solar-power option for my Aerostich. It also powers the
Interesting Road Finder.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tsuit@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Tom Suit)
Subject: Re: Almost had it stolen tonite!
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA 
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:08:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.101531.1549@bnr.uk>, datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
> John Hamilton (john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG) wrote:
> : Wednesday October 07 1992 09:23, Charlie Smith wrote to All:
> : 

   [Stuff about citizens defending themselves deleted]

> What a lovely country you Americans live in.  How did you manage to get 
> yourselves in such a mess?
  
  The majority of it IS a nice country. As to the mess - (for instance
  DC being murder capitol of the world) we got into it because we
  allowed a vocal minority to decide that we should not teach values
  or morals in our public schools. So now we have  created a couple
  generations of people that have no respect for other's property or
  lives. 
  
> Nick (the English Biker)    MAG 73516    DoD 1069    Concise Oxford

 Tom Suit
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Idiot bicycle races on non-closed courses (was Re: ignore  -  test)
From: cain@silverblue.fac.cs.cmu.edu (Sebastian Nightingale Cain)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 00:50:28 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1992Oct12.232739.23488@microunity.com> ericm@microunity.com  
(Eric Murray) writes:
> In article <1992Oct12.210505.14902@megatek.com> randy@megatek.com  
writes:
> >In article <clayb.19.718508733@county.lmt.mn.org>  
clayb@county.lmt.mn.org (Clay Babcock) writes:
> >[Bicycles]
> [rant deleted]
> >
> >  Just *whose* idea is it to hold bicycle races on public roads,  
especially
> >considering how dangerous it is for the bicyclists on the roads they  
were
> >on (north San Diego County roads, in this instance).
> 
> Dangerous because of testosterone-crazed ZX11 riders, no doubt.
> Have some fuckin' tolerance, will you?  The road's not your
> personal playground, there's other people with different hobbies
> than you.  Deal with it, or you lose the right to complain when they
> try to take away _your_ hobby.
> 
> 
> >  No markers, etc...
> 
> It probably wasn't a race then- most likely a centry ride.
> Most races (and all races put on by good promoters) have vounteers
> stationed at the road junctions, or at least signs, to warn motor  
vehicles
> that there's a bike race goin' on.
> 
> 
> --
> Eric Murray   ericm@microunity.com   Ride fast, die young, wear black  
leather.

YOU have some fuckin' tolerance there dude.  I believe the original poster  
was following all applicable laws concerning the usage of the road.   
Bicyclists on the other hand feel that since they have no motor, and are  
much smaller, they deserve the right of way - regardless of which side of  
the road they are on.  Nobody is trying to take away anybody's hobby, but  
you gotta share the road there numbnuts.  There are other people out there  
who are not as observant  as the ZX11 pilot was, and after they plow  
through the group that was on the wrong side of the road, will probably  
not give a shit - hey - they were on the wrong side of the road after all.
Evolution in action I say.  Those who test their idiocy in public, rarely  
live to regret it.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: Beginner: I Want To Buy A Bike
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 02:47:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.125118.14544@ms.uky.edu> johnr@mik.uky.edu (John S. Roberts, Jr.) writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.203236.631@halfdome.sf.ca.us> bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob  
>pasker) writes:
>=>In article <1992Oct6.161813.22202@ms.uky.edu>, johnr@mik.uky.edu (John S.  
>Roberts, Jr.) writes:
>=>> Now that I finally got a DoD membership, I would like to purchase a bike.   
>I  
>=>> am prepared to spend about 800 dollars, unless of course that is not  
>enough  
>=>> to get started on.  I have seen ads in the newspapers for bikes, but how  
>does  
>=>> a beginner know a lemmon from a lion?  Thanks!!!
>=>
>=>sorry, john, wrong group.  if you got your number from who i think you got  
>your
>=>number from, then you got a membership in the "don't i deserve?" club, as  
>in,
>=>"don't i deserve a bike?" your dod number, john, is not transferable to the
>=>DoD.  once you get your bike, you'll have to start all over again. 
>=>
>=>--
>=>-- bob pasker
>=>-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
>=>--
>say what?
>I wasn't trying to say that I deserved anything, just that I would appreciate  
>some help.  sorry if that came off wrong.
>

*GOTCHA*  No true DoD'er would *EVER* appologize, let alone use 
the S***Y word!  Goes to prove Bob's point, that you (DiD)n't get ahold
of the real DoD KotL, but got ahold of the dod KotL who assigned you a DiD #!



>--
>--==+  John S. Roberts, Jr.  Internet: johnr@mik.uky.edu (NeXT)       +==-- 
>--==+  3466 Flintridge Drive   Bitnet: johnr@ukpr.BITNET              +==--
>--==+  Lexington, Kentucky       Work: (606) 272-1417    Ham: pending +==--
>--==+  40517-1119                Work: (606) 257-6100    DoD: 727     +==--

Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff
            {  Friends don't let friends ride Japanese bikes  }

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Mounting radar detectors on bikes
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:17:41 GMT

In article <DCAMPBEL.92Oct6152725@timshel.austin.ibm.com> dcampbel@timshel.austin.ibm.com (David L. Campbell) writes:
|
|jesse@eye.com (Jesse Lackey) writes:
|>
|>So I know some of you out there must have detectors on your bikes.  And I'd
|>sure like to hear how you did it....
|
|When I bought my bike current bike (used Nighthawk 700S), it already had a
|radar detector mounted on it.  The detector part is mounted using a small
|bracket on the front fender, with a small cable running the short distance
|up the forks, through the fairing, and into a little handlebar-mounted job
|that contains the on/off switch and a speaker for the alarm.  The whole
|set-up is weather proof.  I don't/can't remove it when I park the bike.
|Obviously, this is not optimal to keep away the theives but I've not had any
|problems -- its actually surprisingly unnoticeable -- and its really
|convenient.  I do not know if the relatively low mounting of the detector
|severly hampers its effectiveness, but I suspect it doesn't: One, many radar
|detectors are made to mount in a car's grill area which isn't any higher,
|and two, its saved my butt from numerous tickets...

I have a detector that sounds a lot like that.  It is the Whistler Liberty,
a $100 job that you see in the mag ads (the bike in the ad has no detector
on it. :-)  Mine works very well.  The detector head fits nicely in my
left fairing under the turn signal, and the switch/speaker goes on the
dash.  Very unobtrusive, and loud enough that I can hear it at 80mph on
the Connie with ear plugs in.  People who ride with me the first time 
always ask me what the beeping is--they heard it while riding 10 feet
behind! If you don't trust that, it comes with an earplug that goes into 
the side of the dash mounted unit.

About being waterproof: the detector head is potted in epoxy, and seems
completely sealed, so is vibration and waterproof, but the dash-mounted
unit is not in the least waterproof.  If your bike sits out in a drencher
thunderstorm, and the rain blows into the face of the unit, it fails in
a quite annoying manner: it whistles (not intermittently) whether there
is radar traffic or not, and even when you turn it off!  REALLY annoying.
I usually end up unplugging the dash unit under those circumstances (which
don't really happend too often--the windshield of the Connie curves back
enough to protect the dash from vertical rain).

Dave Svoboda (rubis@gagme.chi.il.us)        | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Looking up!)              |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!)              |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905      DoD #0330    COG 939        |   -- Evo Woman
From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Winter Storage
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: 13 Oct 1992 00:15:57 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Oct10.035554.26605@grebyn.com>, rich@grebyn.com (Richard
Lawrence) wrote:
> Some things never change. I lay off rec.moto for a few months, when I
> come back:
> 
> 1) Ed Green is still reading every damn post
> 

Ya know, it's funny.  Here at school I don't have the time to read
every single post, so I apply some filtering.  Back at work however,
I read them all.  Time to graduate.

| Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834 | DoD #207  AMA #573534|
| Case Western Reserve U. Computer E. and Sci.  | KotNML  /  KotB      |
| "You can lead the house to order, but you     | '81 CB750C           |
| can't make it think"  -William Weld (Gov. Ma.)| '88 Bianchi Limited  |
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Bzzzzt! Was: How to break-in new rings?
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:12:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Oct8.201223.2025
Organization: Washington State University

In article <Qeou1ke00WB=0PurMd@andrew.cmu.edu> Mark Joseph Andy <ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Howdy,
>
>karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish) writes:
>[on Bon Ami tile cleaner]
>> It's made from mostly-decomposed feldspar, a mineral that's
>> slightly softer than ceramic tile but harder than most
>> things that stain the tile.  The feldspar fractures into
>...
>
>
>Jezus Chuck.  Go on Jepardy or something and put that limitless
>knowledge to use!
>
>God damn discourse on TILE CLEANSER! :-)
>
>Mark

So what's your problem.  I'm still waiting for the chemical formula
and crystal structure of the decomposed feldspar.
                                                        :-)
Ride Free,

Bill
________________________________________________________________
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Subject: Re: What to do with old battery?
Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:29:43 GMT

In article <h=rpszl@lynx.unm.edu> tjones@triton.unm.edu (Tom Jones) writes:
>In article <16110230@hpsad.sad.hp.com> frankb@hpsad.sad.hp.com
(Frank Ball) writes:
>>
>>Nice clean dilluted sulfuric acid.  Dillute like hell and flush down the drain.
>>
>The solution to pollution is dilution.  NOT!!!

Baloney.  A little extra sulfate ion isn't going to hurt
anything.  Oceans and groundwater already have it in
significant amounts.

>Take the battery to someplace that is set up to recycle it or is willing
>to send it to someone who is.

Read before you post.  This thread is about disposing of
leftover electrolyte that has never been in a battery.
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@pangea.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: leung@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Bruce Leung)
Subject: Re: walking bike (Was: Re: The Dead Battery Problem)
Organization: Center for Supercomputing R&D, U. of Ill.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 01:55:24 GMT

jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
>leung@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Bruce Leung) writes:
>>cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
>>>If you are so knowledgable about the RSS course, why would you buy a
>>>bike that won't allow you to touch both feet?
>>What does being knowledgable about the course have to do with buying
>>a bike?  And who said one had to touch both feet to ride a bike?
>
>  CVC 27801.  No person shall drive any two-wheeled motorcycle:
>  (a) Equipped with a seat so positioned that the driver, when sitting aside
>      the seat, cannot reach the ground with his feet.

Ah, but it doesn't say anything about touching both feet at the
same time. :-)  I guess I did exaggerate a bit in my original post.
If I really stretch and point both feet I can touch both big toes at
the same time.  So I guess I can still ride to CA one of these days.
In any case, my point was that I can't straddle walk my bike and that
I walk it fron the side every day.  Dave Svoboda had a good reply
about leaning the bike against your body.  That's how I do it too.

>I'm surprised that other states don't have similar requirements. 

Why?  I don't see what being able to touch both feet has to do
with being able to ride or handle the bike.

	Bruce
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