From: ronf@panther3.panther.mot.com (Ron Feigen)
Subject: Re: ISLAMIC WORLD NEWS (28th)
Organization: Motorola Panther Project, Chandler, AZ
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 23:21:49 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.031619.454@nysernet.org> astein@nysernet.org (Alan Stein) writes:
>jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000) writes:
>
>>Apparently you don't follow news, have a short  memory, or live in denial.
>>A couple of years ago or so, Arafat did so.  The first day the US said
>>that his  statements were not clear, the next day he was clearer on
>>the issues of recognizing Israel on Occupied Palestine, and on
>>renouncing terrorism. And accordingly the US opened dialog with the PLO.
>
>On December 23, 1988, Arafat said "I didn't change my policy and
>didn't surrender to the American demands and conditions.  The U.S. has
>changed its policy."  Are you accusing Arafat of lying?
>
>(Of course, I know he's a pathological liar, but you're trying to
>defend him.)
>
>Also, the subsequent epidemic of terrorist incidents against Israel
>launched by various PLO factions, including Arafat's own Fatah,
>clearly show that if Arafat actually said he was abandoning terrorism
>then he was either deliberately lying or doesn't really lead the PLO.
>Which is it?
>
>>I hope you can do a little more research before throwing such
>>senseless statements at us.
>
>I've done my research.  How about you doing yours?

I think it is time agai for some actual quotes of the head PLO terrist and some
of his playmates.  Of course these fact will be quickly and conveniently
forgotten/ignored by those such as jle who have no intention of dealing with
any FACTS that might counter their  positions


>	Arafat's support of Saddam Hussein certainly showed the 
>	world their honest intent for peace, all right!
>
>	As for acceptance of Israel's right to exist, let's just
>	peek at what Palestinian and other Arab leaders have said
>	since that momentous day of Dec. 14, 1988.
>
>
>Date: July 25, 1991
>From a Libyan televison interview with Yasser Arafat 7-19-91
>Q: Some people say that the Palestinian revolution has many times changed
>   its strategies and tactics, something which has left its imprint on the
>   Palestinian problem and on the Palestinian Liberation Front.  The
>   [strategies and tactics] have not been clear.  The question is, is the
>   direction of the Palestinian problem clear?  The Palestinian leadership
>   has stopped, or at least this is what has been said in the media, this
>   happened on the way to the dialogue with the United States, the PLO
>   recognized something called "Israel"...
>
>A: No, no, no!  We do not recognize the State of Israel.  We said
>   "recognition" -- when a Palestinian state is established.  It will then
>   decide if to recognize Israel or not.  When it is established, its
>   parliament will convene and decide.
>
>
>December 18 1988: Salah Khalaf (Abu Iyad), Arafat's Number Two
>
>"At first a small state, and with the help of Allah, it will be made
>large, and expand to the east,west,north and south...I am interested in
>the liberation of Palestine step by step."
>
>
>December 21 1988: Sheikh Abd El Hamid Sayekh, speaker of PNC
>
>"We must take and continue to ask for more yet, without offering
>concessions. Nevertheless, we are working to achieve what is possible in
>the present phase, and next we will demand more."
>
>
>Arafat, Jan 2 1989, Quatar News Agency:
>"The land of Palestine is the homeland of the Palestinians, and the
>homeland of the Arab nation, from the ocean to the Gulf.... The PLO
>offers not the peace of the weak, but the peace of Saladin."
>
>
>Jan 3 1989: Muhammed Musawi,2nd Command Leader of PFLP
>"The goal of the PLO is to restore the territories which were included
>within Palestine prior to the establishment of Israel in 1948...The
>Popular Front agreed to the establishment of a Palestinian state in any
>part of the lands which Israel has occupied as a temporary solution."
>
>Jan 23 1989: George Habash, Leader PFLP
>"The establishment of a Palestinian state must not be conditioned upon
>giving up the rest of Palestine. The price for establishing a state must
>not be the recognition of Israel's right to exist."
>
>Jan 23 1989: Abu Iyad
>In response to a request for the removal of article 19 of the PLO
>covenant which calls for the destruction of Israel.
>"We in the PLO do not accept the removal of article 19."
>
>Feb 11 1989: Abu Iyad, "Al-Watan" Kuwait
>"There was no PLO recognition of Israel, neither in the PNC decision in
>Algiers, or in Arafat's address to the UN in Geneva."
>
>April 9 1989: George Habash.
>"The decisions of the PNC did not mention in any manner whatsoever the
>recognition of Israel, and did not mention in any manner whatsoever the
>recognition of Israel's right to exist. We did not recognize Israel."
>
>
>May 21 1989: Nayef Hawatmeh, Leader DFLP (PLO 3rd largest faction)
>"We have recently launched a series of attacks against Israel and will
>launch more. Such attacks are a sacred right for our people"
>
>
>April 6 1990: Arafat talking to Fatah- a PLO faction.
>
>"Open fire upon the new Jewish imigrants - be they from the Soviet
>Union, Ethiopia or anywhere else......It makes no difference if they
>live in Jaffa (Tel Aviv) or Jericho. I give you explicit instructions to
>open fire. I give you my instructions to open fire against these
>imigrants. I will jail whoever refuses to do this. My words are not just
>a threat, they are the reality. From today on, I will incarcerate
>whoever refuses to obey my instructions."
>
>"Whoever thinks of stopping the Intifada before it achieves its goals I
>will give ten bullets in the chest."
>
>-- 
>Ron Evans (revans@math.ucsd.edu)


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Ron Feigen
ronf@panther.mot.com