HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: pkarrer@bernina.ethz.ch (Peter Karrer)
Subject: Proteon P1990?
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 22:14:33 GMT

Has anybody had success with the Proteon P1990 token ring card drivers
included in the prerelease?

I realize that the P1990 is not among the officially supported network
card, but still there's a driver for it.

The network item in the control panel gives me an error message when I
hit the Configure... button. The system log shows some PROTEON.SYS
error messages and a message from NBF saying the card is not properly
configured...

The registry knows that the card is in slot 4, but not very much more.
Browsing through PROTEON.SYS, I find strings like "InterruptNumber",
"Card speed" etc. which I would expect to show up in the registry.
(or rather "I n t e r r u p t N u m b e r", is that Unicode?)

Do I have a chance to make the card work when I add these items manually,
using REGEDIT, to the registry?

Hardware is a Compaq Deskpro 50M with 8M, no special cards except the P1990.


-- 
Peter Karrer                                   pkarrer@bernina.ethz.ch
From: sasdxk@skyhawk.unx.sas.com (Dave Kolb)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: Fatal System Errors
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:18:36 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Originator: sasdxk@skyhawk.unx.sas.com


In article <16605@ksr.com>, kenyee@sneakers (Ken Yee) writes:
|> In article <30@hymir.mlb.dmt.csiro.au> gsl@mlb.dmt.csiro.au (Geoff Lamb)
|> writes:
|>
|>  On a different note, have you heard that WinNT won't load at all if you
|>  have OS/2 2.0 Boot Manager loaded anywhere on the disk?  OS/2 2.0 can
|>  be loaded after WinNT, however.  Guess who's in the "we don't have to
|>  be compatible with anyone because we *ARE* the standard" camp?  :-)
|>
|>   ken

Just turn off BM, install NT and then reboot OS/2 from Floppy and
re-install it where the 1M partition was.  Seems to work except that
sometimes both BM and FLEXBOOT don't seem to allow me a choice of OS.

When that happens (usually after a Windows NT shutdoen), I just power
the machine and get my choices no problem.
-- 
David Kolb                    Opinions are my own not SAS'
SAS Institute, Inc.           EMAIL:      sasdxk@unx.sas.com
SAS Campus Drive - J206       Phone:      (919) 677-8000 x6827
Cary, NC  27513-2414 USA      FAX:        (919) 677-8123
From: jyl@burgess.eng.sun.com (Jacob Levy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: Re: Telnet Slow
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:49:06
Organization: What?! Organization???
Reply-To: jyl@toss.eng.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: burgess
In-reply-to: jim@applix.com's message of 12 Oct 92 18:32:35 GMT


>I don't think it's the computer - my 486/50 with a fast VGA and ethernet
>card runs Win-NT Telnet just like the 2400 baud modem you mention.

It seems to be the console or COM API. It is as slow as molasses. I noticed
that scrolls take over 100% of the CPU, so it must be doing some real hungo
mungo computations there :-). Guess it is complicated to scroll a window
after all :-).

--JYL
From: Alistair.Banks@f1.n100.z60.wlink.nl (Alistair Banks)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: NT Under SCO Unix
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 03:10:44 -0100

Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <CHUCK.PHILLIPS.92Oct2083647@halley.FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM> Chuck.Phillips@FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM (Chuck Phillips) writes:
>
>Question: If your hardware has multiple
>graphics screens, can you arbitrarily assign security (i.e., user) IDs to
>each screen?  I'm thinking in terms of a large installation with multiple
>users hanging off a many-processor (or very fast single-processor) CPU.

Although much of the functionality required to do this is in the system,
its not complete in the first Windows NT product release - so the answer
is "No", at least, not yet -- Alistair

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From: daavid@bohra.cpg.oz.au (Daavid Turnbull)
Subject: Re: EISA vs local bus
Keywords: EISA VL
Organization: Computer Power Software
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 11:51:39 GMT


So what ever happened to microchannel.  This thread has being going for weeks
now and I do not think I have seem MCA mentioned once.

My understanding of the situation is that what ever applies to eisa from an
NT perspective probably applies equally as well to MCA.

My prediction is that as software, (particularly something like NT), gets
more i/o intensive then everyone will want eisa.
-- 
	Daavid Turnbull
	daavid@bohra.cpg.oz   +61 3 823 0222    (fax) +61 3 824 8068
	uunet!munnari!bohra.cpg.oz!daavid
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From: jkf@Franz.COM (Sean Foderaro)
Subject: Re: Which LIBs do I need?
Organization: Franz Inc., Berkeley, CA
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:44:49 GMT

Here is something from compu$erve:

Fm: Doug Olson [Microsoft] 72350,2635
To: Richard Spence 100112,304 (X)

Richard:

When using CRTDLL.LIB it is necessary to place -D_MT and -D_DLL on the compile
command line.  Adding these defines should correct the problem you have been
experiencing with the CTYPE macros.

The below table summarizes this information:

 +------------+-------------------------------------+----------------+
 |            |            Program Type             |                |
 |            +------------------+------------------+                |
 | C Run-Time |   Application    |        DLL       | Define Symbols |
 |  Library   +---------+--------+---------+--------+                |
 |            | Single  | Multi- | Single  | Multi- |                |
 |            | thread  | thread | thread  | thread |                |
 +------------+---------+--------+---------+--------+----------------+
 |LIBC.LIB    | *       |        | *       |        | (none)         |
 |LIBCMT.LIB  | *       | *      | *       | *      |  _MT           |
 |CRTDLL.LIB  | *       | *      | *       | *      |  _MT, _DLL     |
 +------------+---------+--------+---------+--------+----------------+
From: Mikael.Wahlgren@f1.n100.z60.wlink.nl (Mikael Wahlgren)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Multiuser NT???
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 10:00:46 -0100

Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

alistair@microsoft.com (Alistair Banks) writes:

>>And if there is no use "quibbling" about 100 USD why don't
>>Microsoft give it for free then?

>There always needs to be a "bar" for people to get over - If its a 100% free
>and open offer, have you considerred how many university walls would be
>plasterred with our cd-roms, just because they look "cool"

Agreed.  I do follow your reasoning...

>We either use non-disclosures as a bar, or else we charge a small amount. The
>third option is to have a "qualification program" but those are a large overhe
>to administer, and are very rarely "fair" to everyone
>We did some research, asked around, and almost everyone agreed that low cost,
>with no other hurdles, was the best route.
>You sound like the exception - or you're simply too used to "the other model"

You are right again.  I am used to the "qualification program" (used by IBM).
But I think the best method would be as IBM is doing, having one qualification
program, that is free, for developers with an interesting product, and one
low-charge program for other developers that don't want to go through the
hassle to be qualified for the free program, or don't know why they want it.

I think Microsofts policy, not to give away the Windows NT SDK to anyone,
is flexible enough.  Of course, if Microsoft finds a project they find
interesting and want to encourage, they should be able to give a SDK away
for free.  Obviously they are either not interested in encouraging my
product (OK, if you say so, I will accept that), or they simply can't
understand the low-budget a shareware-program starts with (yes the budget
can increase dramaticly later on, if the program gets enough interest, like
my OS2You project.  I have no problem buying the development tools I need
for that, but I certainly didn't start the project by buying development
tools for 550 USD).

Sincerely
Mikael Wahlgren

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: alistair@microsoft.com (Alistair Banks)
Subject: Re: Multiuser NT???
Date: 13 Oct 92 00:43:12 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1992Oct9.104010.7972@cam-orl.co.uk> thg@cam-orl.co.uk (Tim Glauert) writes:
>
>I suggest that you take three
>experienced NT programmers and give them the task of implementing telnetd,
>rshd and ftpd respectively. 

>Then announce that these services
>will form part of the base NT product, or release them into the public domain.

>Can't MS afford a few weeks of programmer time to tackle this problem
>once and for all?

Simply, if we do this, then those guys, by definition, are no longer doing the
thing they were doing before - and importantly, if we do this, then at
one blow we'd stop the third party market from doing a better job, since
the revenue opportunity is lost, or considerably diminished - if we're not
motivated to do a great job of something like this, its much better to let
the 3rd party market do a great job, and let them make money - also, Microsoft
is onto a "loser" each time we implement something that's not a "feature"
but rather an imperfect hack, into our core product. 3rd party companies
get great credit for adding onto our products, while we'd get blasted for
not doing it "right" - As I've explained before, while Windows NT has alot
of the functionality needed for multi-user systems, the graphics server
is lacking some functionality, and the security is lacking some extra features
we want, in its first release. I believe that Microsoft should work on doing
things "right" and encourage a healthy 3rd party market to grow by making
money filling in the pieces

Also, it must be obvious, that if we took "three great programmers" to do
each thing that appears "simple & quick" we'd never get any products out!

>Failing that, how about an effort among some developers to get PD versions of
>these services out as soon as possible?

I'm much more in favour of this second route - There should be public domain
versions, and there should be new and even greater "branded" and supported
versions

Let me know about all such efforts, please -- Alistair
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: rrohbeck@kboeng.enet.dec.com (Ralf-Peter Rohbeck)
Subject: Good news on DDK pricing
Keywords: DDK
Reply-To: rrohbeck@kboeng.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Int. GmbH
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 09:31:14 GMT


Hey, I'm the first to spread the news :-)

>>Question for all of you. Would you buy a CD only version of the
>>NT DDK??
>>Let me know.
>
>Ralf-Peter,
>
>Thanks for your comment on our pricing/packaging plans for the Windows
>NT Preliminary DDK. In response to your requests and the requests of many
>others we have decided to lower the price for the DDK, and offer a CD-only
>version of the product. In the US, our  pricing will be  consistent 
>with our SDK
>pricing. Of couse the DDK price will include updates and the
>final version of the DDK.
>
>The DDK will be available around the end of November. You should be able to
>contact MS Germany starting next week for pricing info.
>
>Again, thanks for your feedback.
>
>Dwight Matheny
>Product Manager- SDKs and DDKs

Ralf-Peter
===============================================================================
Ralf-Peter Rohbeck          rrohbeck@kbomfg.dec.com         Product engineering
Digital Equipment Int. GmbH rrohbeck%kbomfg.enet.dec.com       Disk drive plant
Sudetenstrasse 5/POB 1356   ...!decwrl!kbomfg.dec.com!rrohbeck)      Kaufbeuren
W-8950 Kaufbeuren           (+49) 8341 / 91-4473                        Germany
#include "disclaimer.h"
From: dave@rsd.dl.nec.com (Dave Rogers)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: Drivers for CD Technology with AHA-1542B
Keywords: driver, Toshiba, Adaptec AHA-1542B, CD Technology
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:45:44 GMT
Organization: BINJFBA Society

In article <1992Oct7.203241.27106@src.honeywell.com>, dicks@cfsmo.honeywell.com (Richard D. Schlotfeldt) writes:
|> 
|> My questions:
|> 
|>   - Which drivers package(s) do I need to access the CD-ROM
|>     drive (in addition to my hard disk) under DOS?

None for DOS but you MUST have the ASPI4DOS driver for Windows.  This
also provides 32-bit disk access. 

|> 
|>   - Does the software for the Microsoft Developer Network
|>     CD-ROM work under Windows NT without the DOS drivers?
|>     In other words, am I barking up the wrong tree? Can I
|>     just forget about DOS drivers and rely on Windows NT
|>     completely?
|> 

Yes.

|>   - Are DOS drivers needed for use of the CD-ROM drive by
|>     DOS programs running under Windows NT?
|> 

This won't work (currently).

===============================================================================
Dave Rogers                    				       
M & R Software, Inc.
Internet:   dave@rsd.dl.nec.com
On contract to: NEC America, Radio Software Dept

Don't take life too seriously; you're not going to get out of it alive anyway.
From: d9mikael@dtek.chalmers.se (Mikael Wahlgren)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: Multiuser NT???
Date: 12 Oct 92 10:56:45 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

riley@sac.enet.dec.com (Steve Riley (UK Windows NT Program Manager)) writes:

>These sums are undoubtedly just nominal;   which should not
>discourage the serious developers, corporate users etc. In actual

Well, anyhow it discourage me.  I simply won't pay for beta/pre-release
software.  I have no problem paying 1000 USD for a released version (if I need
it), but paying 100 USD for a pre-release from Microsoft, is something I
never will do (again).

>Have YOU considered the cost in other terms of missing out on THE 
>operating system of the future!!!

Well, I am not quite so sure that it is "THE" operating system.  And I won't
miss it, just because I don't buy the pre-release SDK.

Mikael Wahlgren
From: msieber@csghsg5a.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: NT User Beta also on diskettes?
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:10:08 GMT
Organization: University of St.Gallen, Switzerland

Since I got no CD-ROM,  I want to know, wheter MS sells the NT-Beta for
users only on CD, or also on3 1/2 inch Disks.

Please email me at:

MSIEBER@Beta.unisg.ch
From: jyl@burgess.eng.sun.com (Jacob Levy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Problem accessing c: stuff
Date: 12 Oct 92 09:35:16
Organization: What?! Organization???
Reply-To: jyl@toss.eng.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: burgess

OK, I have a strange problem. As of late last nite I am unable to see any
files on the C: disk. Not from the file manager, nor from a command window.
In a command window I just see the prompt (C:\) but trying cd or any other
command says 'file not found'. I don't have access to any file on C:, it
seems. Not even those in /user/default... Not logged in as Administrator,
neither as Joe Random User. I know the files are there, I can see them when
I am booted in DOS (glad I didnt throw it away after all... :_).

Has anyone seen this before? What is the procedure to restore to a sane
state?

Thanks, --JYL
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: cnolan@mee.tcd.ie
Subject: Re: TCP/IP Problems
Organization: Microelectronics Dept, Trinity College Dublin
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:33:07 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.030414.22469@csc.canberra.edu.au>, act@softserver.canberra.edu.au (Cyclops) writes:
stuff deleted ...
> 
> I would be interested in 'me tooing' any e-mail you get and keep us posted.
> 
> Regards


This is a 'me too' NOT!

Using a WD 8013EP (Elite 16) and the updated deiver from Compuserve (actually
ftp.uu.net) I now have the tcpip service going.  So just to let you know it can
be done ... keep trying.

I used the DOS2NT install.  After the copying stage I put the WDLAN driver in
the drivers sub-dir.  After that I followed all the instructions very
carefully. It still took me three complete installs before I got everything 
right.  No magic required.

Conor.
From: Ralf-Peter.Rohbeck@f1.n100.z60.wlink.nl (Ralf-Peter Rohbeck)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Good news on DDK pricing
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 11:31:14 -0100

Organization: Digital Equipment Int. GmbH


Hey, I'm the first to spread the news :-)

>>Question for all of you. Would you buy a CD only version of the
>>NT DDK??
>>Let me know.
>
>Ralf-Peter,
>
>Thanks for your comment on our pricing/packaging plans for the Windows
>NT Preliminary DDK. In response to your requests and the requests of many
>others we have decided to lower the price for the DDK, and offer a CD-only
>version of the product. In the US, our  pricing will be  consistent 
>with our SDK
>pricing. Of couse the DDK price will include updates and the
>final version of the DDK.
>
>The DDK will be available around the end of November. You should be able to
>contact MS Germany starting next week for pricing info.
>
>Again, thanks for your feedback.
>
>Dwight Matheny
>Product Manager- SDKs and DDKs

Ralf-Peter
===============================================================================
Ralf-Peter Rohbeck          rrohbeck@kbomfg.dec.com         Product engineering
Digital Equipment Int. GmbH rrohbeck%kbomfg.enet.dec.com       Disk drive plant
Sudetenstrasse 5/POB 1356   ...!decwrl!kbomfg.dec.com!rrohbeck)      Kaufbeuren
W-8950 Kaufbeuren           (+49) 8341 / 91-4473                        Germany
#include "disclaimer.h"

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From: alistair@microsoft.com (Alistair Banks)
Subject: Re: Multiuser NT???
Date: 13 Oct 92 01:04:37 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <d9mikael.718740193@dtek.chalmers.se> d9mikael@dtek.chalmers.se (Mikael Wahlgren) writes:
>And if there is no use "quibbling" about 100 USD why don't
>Microsoft give it for free then?

There always needs to be a "bar" for people to get over - If its a 100% free
and open offer, have you considerred how many university walls would be
plasterred with our cd-roms, just because they look "cool"

We either use non-disclosures as a bar, or else we charge a small amount. The
third option is to have a "qualification program" but those are a large overhead
to administer, and are very rarely "fair" to everyone

We did some research, asked around, and almost everyone agreed that low cost,
with no other hurdles, was the best route.

You sound like the exception - or you're simply too used to "the other model"

-- Alistair
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: jones@hal.uvm.edu (Mike Jones)
Subject: WndDbg problem
Organization: University of Vermont, EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:35:42 GMT

If I strike up the WinDbg'er from the program manager, I cannot figure
out how to load my executable in and run it.

If I do it from DOS prompt, "windbg prog.exe" it works.  How do I tell
windbg from PM mode, the name of my .exe.

When I select "Load" it askes for my .c file name.  When I press
"Restart" it says "thread no loaded".

Thank you,
  Mike

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From: jones@hal.uvm.edu (Mike Jones)
Subject: re: Win NT on SGI's [was...simple questions]
Organization: University of Vermont, EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:46:39 GMT

>  So for now, no one should make any assumptions about which
> SGI platforms might support NT, or when.  (With the exception of the
> MIPS Magnum and Millenium machines, which are ARC compliant and for
> which NT support has already been announced.)

Oh darn, and I was waiting to put NT on my Crimson.

In my personal opinion, it will be a long while before NT replaces
IRIX (and most versions of Unix).

 Mike
From: brian@jaguar.cs.utah.edu (Brian Sturgill)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: SDK beta mailing from Microsoft.
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:42:31 GMT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
Originator: brian@jaguar.cs.utah.edu


I've seen references to a mailing sent to all developers that
have the SDK, both here and on CompuServe.  As I would normally
see mail for 3 copies of the SDK, I'm a bit confused as to why I've
not received the mailing yet.  CompuServe had an 800 number to
call if you haven't gotten the mailing "within two weeks", but I don't
know when the messages appeared.  When is it time to give up
and call the number?

Brian
-- 
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University of Utah                             United We Stand
Center for Software Science             How we can take back our country.
brian@cs.utah.edu; CIS: 70363,1373  (It's more important than OS/2 vs NT! :-))
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From: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Subject: Re: Fatal System Errors
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.14 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Organization: Techn. Univ. Clausthal
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:46:18 GMT

In  <16605@ksr.com>  kenyee@sneakers (Ken Yee) writes:
> In article <30@hymir.mlb.dmt.csiro.au> gsl@mlb.dmt.csiro.au (Geoff Lamb)
> writes:
> >       *** Fatal System Error : 0x00000069
> >
> >       *** Phase 1 I/O initialization failed
> >
> > Does anyone have any ideas? Or does anyone know what those errors mean?
>     I get the same stupid error.  I wish Microsoft tech support would
>     answer questions on this usenet group instead of requiring CIS
>     access.

Ken, the support from Microsoft employees posting here is not too bad, I
think. The 0x00000069 error is discussed in FAQ, so simply get the FAQ
from ftp.uu.net:/usenet/comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32

>  On a different note, have you heard that WinNT won't load at all if you
>  have OS/2 2.0 Boot Manager loaded anywhere on the disk?  OS/2 2.0 can
>  be loaded after WinNT, however.  Guess who's in the "we don't have to
>  be compatible with anyone because we *ARE* the standard" camp?  :-)

This has also been discussed before, of course you can install NT after
you have installed OS/2 2.0. NT's flexboot just gets a little confused
about the drive letters. So change the x:\WINNT to
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(x)partition(y)\WINNT and flexboot will work perfectly.

Christoph
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From: jerry@marin.uucp (Jerry C. Hudgins)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: FAQ List?
Distribution: usa
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 15 Oct 92 00:22:27 EDT
Organization: Private UUCP Node

Has anyone started a FAQ list for this newsgroup?  If so, please E-mail a
copy to me.  Thanks.

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