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From: donal@brewich.hou.tx.us (Donal)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Initialization problem.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 08:09:32 CDT
Organization: The Brewer's Witch BBS, HouTx, +1 713 272 7350

carolyns@cityzen.UUCP (Carolyn's Fingers) writes:

> Hello.  I did actually now set up a Waffle BBS, and have successfully 
> gotten a feed going through, etc.  (many thanks to john at jwt.uucp)
> 
> I have one small problem that is documented in the DOS.DOC, but I'm 
> having some time finding a solution.  
> 
> When a USER logs off, it just gets to either [dropping connection] or 
> Calls:xx and freezes.  It DOES drop the carrier, but doesn't initialize 
> for next caller.  I checked my init string, and it looks fine.
> 
> It's as follows : "AT H0 M0 S0=1 V1 E0 X4"
> 
> So to see if it just needed some extra time, I added two ~~ before the 
> string.  I have yet to see if this works, as I'm doing this about ten 
> minutes before I have to leave for work for the day.
> 
> The modem I'm using is a borrowed internal Tandy bought 2400.  Not sure 
> if this could have something to do with it, and I don't have any 
> documentation with it to look for any commands or anything.
> 
> PLEASE HELP! :)  My BBS takes one user then sits on its butt! :)
> 
> - Erik

I am actually having a similar problem. It seems to happen when a poll tries
to call my smarthost and fails. Upon returning to Waffle, the init is sent
and the program then waits for an OK, and never sees it. It just cycles 
forever. try debug:modem and you will see ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|||||||||| etc, forever. Just screen after screen of it. Pressing any key 
will stop it, but does NOT cycle the modem,using P to do a normal poll DOES
reset it, but that hardly helps if I am not here. Several times I have come     
home to find it doing this.


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Donal, Sysop of The Brewer's Witch BBS -- +1 713 272 7350
(Internet) lobster.hou.tx.us!brewich!donal 
(SCA) Ld. Donal Dubh, IC of Dun Bruddair, B of the Stargate, K of Ansteorra
From: murph@buscard.fidonet.org (Brian Murphy)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: "To:" line
Keywords: To:
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 11:46:07 EDT
Organization: The Business Card (BBS), Lawrence, MA - Data: 508-682-5329

Hey, my "To:" line is screwed up somehow.  Thanks go to Mr. Mike 
Batchelor for pointing it out to me.  My line is showing up as 
murph@buscard.UUCP.buscard which is clearly and painfully WRONG-O!  Where 
do I look for this, static file, right?  I have:

node     : buscard.fidonet.org
alias    : buscard.UUCP
uucpname : buscard

And THEN...

netnews  : %A@buscard.fidonet.org (%W)
netmail  : %A@buscard.fidonet.org (%W)

Now, I know that it should be something like "%A@%n" or something but I 
seem to remember some external program or something saying that I should 
specify exactly what I wanted there because something would have trouble 
otherwise.  Man, I wish I could remember where I read that.  Still, you'd 
think that what I have there would work, wouldn't you?

Anyone got a clue?

                                - - - Murph

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: bbs-morpheus@jwt.UUCP (Erik Dahlberg)
Subject: Questions from a Greenie.
Reply-To: bbs-morpheus@jwt.UUCP
Organization: The Matrix
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 23:58:39 GMT

Hi.  I'm looking into running Waffle (DOS) 1.64, and had a few questions 
that I'm hoping may be able to get answered.

(background: I've run a BBS before (WWIV <ugh>), have a good idea of how 
to use DOS, and have been BBSing for seven years.  Intermediate, I 
guess.)

1) Is it possible to put ANSI colour codes in prompts, etc?  Is there a 
way to give an ANSI toggle for users?  (like have two separate menus - 
one ANSI, one ASCII?)  As you can see, that's a leftover thing of mine 
from WWIV... I do like making ANSI artwork, but I don't want to scare the 
fertilizer out of non-ANSI users with buckets of garbage.

2) Is there a call-back verifier available?

3) What about full-screen editors?

4) Is it possible to run doors (commercial online games) with Waffle?  In 
specific, Tradewars 2002 and Operation: Overkill ][.  I have quite a few 
users who like these games, (many over the age of 15, yes. <grin>) and 
yes, I admit, I like them too.  Main problem seems to be that these games 
look for a 'door drop file' such as DOOR.SYS or CHAIN.TXT for user info 
when 'shelling' out.  Has anyone made any of these or similar programs 
run with Waffle?

5) Are there off-line mail readers?

6) If any of these programs or help with them are available via other 
BBSs (say for downloading the programs), what is(are) the number(s)?  

  Many, MANY thanks for any help.  I really like what I've seen of 
Waffle, and am just seeing if it'll make me LOVE what I've seen. :)

- Erik


Erik D. Dahlberg  (bbs.morpheus@jwt.UUCP)
".. some say pushing is better than shoving but I'd rather know a shover 
 than a pusher 'cos the pusher's a jerk." - De La Soul.
From: elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle/Coherent?
Keywords: coherent
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 22:13:38 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS, New Orleans, LA

aaron@spectrx.saigon.com (Aaron Anderer - System) writes:

> elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) writes:
>
> > Was wondering if anyone has successfully compiled/installed/run Waffle unde
> > Mark Williams Coherent?
> >
>
> The only way waffle could be compiled under coherent, is to do so under
> coherent 4.0, since that is a 386 version and gets rid of the 64kcode+64kdata
> thing that the 286/coherent "small memory model version" loved so much.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Aaron Anderer, System Operator                aaron@spectrx.saigon.com
> SPECTROX SYSTEMS +1 408 252 1005              szebra!spectrx!aaron

Well, I'm aware of that, so I guess I'm still wondering if anyone has *done*
it.  Coherent isn't a bad idea, since it's a hundred dollar investment, but
another $150 for Waffle isn't such a good idea until I can confirm that someone
has tried it.



|Edward J. Branley                         elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us|
|Seashell Software                                UUCP:  rex!mintir!elendil|
|3508 North Woodlawn Avenue                          Compu$erve: 71237,2227|
|Metairie, LA   70006       voice: +1-504-455-5087     bbs: +1-504-455-8665|
From: dawson@willard.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Modem_w/FAX_CallerID_LCD_Display_up_to_16800cps
Date: 27 Jul 92 11:13:53 GMT
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

sp@questor.UUCP writes:

MANY, MANY lines of pure commercialism.

Look, man.  We all know you got your stinking Zyxel, and some of us know what
they expect of their sysop program participants.  I for one am tired of seeing
this drivel.  If I want to read about the technical whiz-bang features of new
modems, I'll read comp.dcom.telecom and comp.dcom.modems.  And, I do.  But I
see little need for posting that stuff here.

Thank YOU for your consideration.


-- 
dawson@willard.UUCP (Willard Dawson)
Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814
From: murph@buscard.fidonet.org (Brian Murphy)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: WafMail
Keywords: Out the door, QWK
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 11:54:52 EDT
Organization: The Business Card (BBS), Lawrence, MA - Data: 508-682-5329

I have another question, too.  It looks like all the email my users are 
uploading to me through the WafMail QWK off-line message reader is going 
out the door and to my host.  Has anyone seen that phenomenon?  I can't 
quite figure that one out.  Hmph.  Maybe it has something to do with my 
"To:" line situation?  :--)

                                        - - - Murph

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From: knox@tmk.mlb.fl.us (Tom Knox)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: 1.65 folder problem....
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 17:40:31 EDT
Organization: Tom's House BBS

Ralph Sims <ralphs@remote.halcyon.com> writes:

> cybrspc!wwiv!52-500@cs.umn.edu (system#freds.cojones.com (George W. Hayduke) 
> 
> > On another note, where does one find the Chrome beast?
> 
> One doesn't.  One waits.  One is used to waiting.  Good things come
> to one who waits.
> 

 -- The Zen of Waffle --

--
 Tom Knox                |  Internet:    knox@tmk.mlb.fl.us 
 Tom's House             |  UUCP:        ...!uunet!tmk!knox
 Indialantic, FL         |  MIL/BITNET:  knox%tmk@UUNET.UU.NET
From: ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle File Server
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:46:01 GMT
Organization: Ian Justman's pitiful excuse for an AT clone

vince@halcyon.com (Vince Skahan) writes:

> nobody in their right mind would sign anything like the garbage
> that came with WFS112.zip.

Hell, this guy's greed is evident even in version 0.93 which I
have on archives (but for not much longer!).

> I got so pissed off when I read that stuff that I not only went and
> deleted it from the system (too bad, next month when I turn the second
> phone line on and leave the system up, I was gonna register it)
> that I deleted the .zip file too...what nerve...

He ain't got nerves.  He's got balls!  :-)  And I'd like to spend
some time with him in a room with no escape alone for half an
hour while I beat the crap out of him!

> Save yourself the blood pressure...try 'vms112.zip' (V-mail).
                                          ^^^^^^^^^^
> It's every bit as powerful with respect to mail based file serving
> as WFS, and it adds incredible functionality with setting up mailing lists,
> automatic file responses to mail to a specific request, etc.

Vince, the file is "vms122.zip".  I use it here for my
distribution of my E4W100.ZIP program.

Incidentally, if you want a complete list of what I have, which
right now encompasses Waffle (soon to be minus WFS093.ZIP, so
fall in a hole, Larry Hardiman-type being), UUCP in general, and
stuff mainly geared to the folks in rec.video.satellite, send a
request to one of the following addresses:

mail-server@ijpc.UUCP
ijpc!mail-server@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US

and include in the body of the message:

index

or just send a message (no content really needed; just needs to
leave your site) to the same addresses, but replace "mail-server"
with "allfiles".  For just the satellite-related files, replace
"mail-server" with "satfiles".

As far as my blood pressure is concerned, I'm not worried.  I
love to berate WFS and its lowlife scum of an author like I did
in a message or so ago.

> Far more powerful...at least as easy to use (I like it better),
> and the author has a clue.

And the author is VERY helpful!  Yakked with him on the phone,
with a few questions, and he was very forthcoming with his
answers.

As for WFS, I've never used it, and after what I heard about some
of Hardiman's licensing terms, I never will use it!  I can't
dignify this lifeform by trying his "scareware".  VMS works well,
so I'll stick with it, and Rick is infinitely more reasonable.

Before I forget, Larry Hardiman, please let us know when you've
come back to this planet and have become a human being again.
From: fenner@cmf.nrl.navy.mil (Fenestro)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Bug with Incoming Calls.
Keywords: dos waffle 165 beta 9
Date: 30 Jul 92 13:42:02 GMT
Organization: NRL Connection Machine Facility, Washington, DC

In article <DVkNoB2w165w@willard.UUCP> dawson@willard.UUCP writes:
>frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton) writes:
>
>> I believe that once a 'Ring' is detected, Waffle should cool its jets for 
>> awhile and make sure incoming calls are given a chance to succeed (if a 
>> caller was calling long distance they would have to pay the minimum 
>> charge because of this).
>
>I believe that once a RING is detected, Waffle should provide an option...
>to ignore or not.  AND, it already does, I think.  If you put uu.drops:RING
>in the static file.

Willard, I think Steve was talking about Waffle itself, not UUCICO.  The
situation that Steve described was that the modem rang, Waffle heard RING,
then Waffle decided to go and perform an event.

>Do I dare mention that I believe that Waffle's handling of uu.drops : RING
>is broken!?  My modem has echos RRING on the remote ring detection.

Isn't there an ATXn that you can set the modem to when dialing out that
disables the RRING?

>Perhaps, as Waffle is preparing
>to call out, it should FIRST disable auto-answer.

There's still a race condition involved.  What if Waffle exits to DOS, then
the modem answers the phone as UUCICO is loading?  If Waffle answers the
phone itself, instead of relying on the modem to do it, then you don't
have the same race condition (you get ring-no-answer instead of ring-answer-
hangup).  There's a patched 1.64 EXE on halcyon.com that does this, and
1.65 can do it via a setting in the Static file.

  Bill
-- 
Bill Fenner                  fenner@cmf.nrl.navy.mil
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: patrick@actrix.gen.nz (Pat Cain)
Subject: Re: Waffle File Server
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 00:45:01 GMT

In article <eNRFoB1w165w@ijpc.UUCP> ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman) writes:
> He ain't got nerves.  He's got balls!  :-)  And I'd like to spend
> some time with him in a room with no escape alone for half an
> hour while I beat the crap out of him!

This is getting stupid.  If you don't like it then no one is forcing
you to use it.  Larry has written some useful freeware software for
Waffle and it's HIS choice which terms he attaches to WFS and your
choice whether to use the package.

The registration for a normal BBS is US$17 which is reasonable.
The registration fee for other organizations seems a lot, but
that's his choice -- it may cost them several thousand dollars
if they hired a programmer to write a similar package.  Or they
could of course use ASER or VMailServer.  The conditions
attached that you may not modify WFS are fair and you'll find
they are attached to most software, though it seems a bit silly
that he put the $127,000 and $147,800 figures in -- surely that
would put more people off using the package than leaving them out
would.

Anyway, I still think that it's his right to attach whatever
restrictions he likes to the software, and saying you want to
"beat the crap out of him" is not very intelligent.


Pat.
-- 
Pat Cain, PO Box 2060, Wellington, NZ  ()  em: cain_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
From: fenner@cmf.nrl.navy.mil (William C Fenner)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: A /dev/nul simulation in DOS Waffle.
Keywords: dos waffle 1.65 beta 9
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:04:11 GMT
Organization: NRL Connection Machine Facility, Washington, DC

In article <XT7qoB2w165w@clubzen.fidonet.org> mwallis@clubzen.fidonet.org (Michael Wallis) writes:
>frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton) writes:
>> Next, make a usenet newsgroup called 'dev_nul' and add this line to
>> the USENET file:
>> 
>> dev_nul  /junk
>
>This will only work if you DON'T create a junk directory

Really?  Experience shows otherwise... and so does the documentation.

From /waffle/docs/forum.doc:
        /junk           Throw away articles as they arrive -- no copies
                        are saved, and they are NOT placed in the junk
                        newsgroup.

  Bill
-- 
Bill Fenner                  fenner@cmf.nrl.navy.mil
From: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Problems With Bang Paths.
Keywords: dos waffle 165 beta 9
Date: 29 Jul 92 02:34:30 GMT
Reply-To: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
Followup-To: comp.bbs.waffle
Organization: Vicuna Systems, Kingston, ON (613) 547-5066

Hi everyone:

Just a quick question regarding DOS Waffle 1.65 beta 9:

I've got a new neighbour, his site name is not yet registered, so he 
refers e-mail replies to 'his_site!userid@mysite.registered.domain'.  
Therefore all replies will first come to my site which is in the 
registered domain and then bang off to his site.

This works wonderfully.  RMAIL does what it is supposed to when he has 
incoming mail.

Problem is, it is a real pain for my users here who want to reply to his 
users there!  For example, 'king!root@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca' would get mail 
to root@king via my site, but if he sent mail to one of the users here 
and they tried to use the follow or reply commands, Waffle would say, "No 
such user king!root."

The way around this, of course, is to capture his original message, 
manually add, 'John Doe (king!root) writes' and the prepending '>' and 
then send a message to 'king!root'.

IMHO this is a bug.

----------------------------------------------------
frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
Vicuna Systems BBS - 613/547-5066 [9600 v.32/.42bis]
From: phaedrus@unkaphaed.UUCP (James Hartman, Sysop)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Zyxel Modems
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 23:20:03 GMT
Organization: Unka Phaed's UUCP Thingy

tps@jptcs.UUCP (Tim Sailer) writes:

> Has anyone been able to get Waffle to work with the Zyxel v.32bis modems?

Yuppers.  Unkaphaed runs using one of them beasties - and I connect using
v32bis/v42bis on a regular basis.  If I can help out in any particular way,
please Email me.
--
phaedrus@unkaphaed.UUCP (James Hartman, Sysop)
Unka Phaed's UUCP Thingy, (713) 943-2728
1200/2400/9600/14400 v.32bis/v.42bis
From: rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Budi Rahardjo)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle File Server
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:03:54 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada

rick@vsystem.wimsey.bc.ca (Rick Vandenberg) writes:

>larry@Birdsong.Suvl.CA.US (Lawrence T. Hardiman) writes:
...
>> To meet my competition,
>> specifically V-Mail, I am working on mail-server features now. 

>Mail-server features?  Oh oh...  I guess I'll have to get cracking at
>finishing the next version :)

Yikes ... I should go back to DOS and update ASER then :-)
I am having ( too much ) fun with 'linux' and forgot DOS :-)

-- budi 
   <budi@bison.mb.ca>
-- 
Budi Rahardjo <rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Unix Support - Computer Services - University of Manitoba
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: by355@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael P. Otto)
Subject: Re: Questions from a Greenie.
Reply-To: by355@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael P. Otto)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 04:55:04 GMT


In a previous article, pdivine@unixg.ubc.ca (Patrick Devine) says:

>Great, but where do we get it?  I have a copy of DoorMaster, but it doesn't
>support Waffle.
>

Patrick,

The current release doesn't support Waffle internally, but can be used
with Waffle using the /F=PARMS:<parms> mode.  This does require you to check
the term type and bps in your batch file, however, and complicates things.
I should be releasing 5.8 in a couple of days, which will include a
/F=WAFFLE:<parms> mode.  I'll try to get it out to SIMTEL and ZEUS once I
get it released.


-- 
================================================================     /|
| Michael Otto                                                 |  \`o.O'
| by355@cleveland.freenet.edu                                  |  =(___)=
================================================================     U
From: Ralph Sims <ralphs@remote.halcyon.com>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: anonymous ftp with 1.65b10
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 07:26:28 PDT
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service

vikki@precipice.chi.il.us (Victoria Welch) writes:

>   I am trying to get the anonomous ftp set up here and am not real
> sure what I am doing here.

I think you mean anonymous UUCP, not ftp.  If your Waffle is on
the Internet, you can share its file section with the anonymous
ftp section quite nicely.  The Waffle users on our Internet site
have access to around 6 gigabytes of files to download, with the
DIRS file pointing to the ftp partitions.

>   I copied the UUCP account over to anonymous with no password (just
> one space).  This I am not clear on (lots of that going on at the
> moment <g>).  Should the password also be "anonymous" ?

Almost.  Copy the UUCP account to, say, nuucp and give it the password
nuucp. Create the login shell in the account to execute uucico whenever
anyone logs in with the userid 'nuucp' by using the line:

$uucico -r0 -panonymous -uany -d%d

-panonymous sets up a 'group' as such, and -uany allows anyone to
be in that 'group'.  The -d%d picks up the port they're using (may
not be needed for your configuration).  Whenever any site calls
with the userid nuucp and the correct password, Waffle exits and
calls uucico which then checks the permits file to see what it
can offer that caller.

Here's my setup...  We run a meg or so a day in anonymous uucp out
of here...

;  Neighbors are allowed to execute RNEWS and RMAIL. Also they can access
;  the anonymous UUCP directories if you uncomment the up and download lines.

default     /system=known
            /account=any
            /commands=rnews,rmail
            /download="g:/public"
            /upload="g:/public/files/hold"
            /time=any

;  For anonymous UUCP login. Provide a "uucp" account calling uucico with
;  -panonymous -uany to access this permit if you want anon uucp.

anonymous   /system=any
            /account=any
            /commands=rmail,rnews  ; not for the faint-of-heart
            /download="g:/public"
            /upload="g:/public/files/hold"
            /time=any

> are these literal or are they aliased out to "spool/public".  I would

literal, as you surmised.  Even if they were based on the static file,
I'd hard code them.  Remember that files can be acquired from subdirectories
by asking for ~/subdir/subdir/filename.txt".  The download directory sets
the root directory (~/) for the downloads, e.g. g:/public == ~/.

WARNING:  *** DO NOT ENABLE ANONYMOUS UUCP WITH WAFFLE 1.64 ***

(A devious person is able to get ANY file off your system).

NOTICE:  ***  ANONYMOUS UUCP IS SECURE IN UPCOMING WAFFLE 1.65 ***
From: murph@buscard.fidonet.org (Brian Murphy)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Funneeee!
Keywords: Elvis, Junk
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 11:28:42 EDT
Organization: The Business Card (BBS), Lawrence, MA - Data: 508-682-5329

Gotta love what RNews does with the junk groups:

alt.sex.aluminum.baseball.bat gone to live with Elvis

Boy, was that a riot when I first saw it!!

                                - - - Murph

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