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From: Tuya@ccmail.uoregon.edu (Tuya)
Subject: Two puzzles
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:22:34 GMT

          If you can answer the first one in 10 senconds you are in
          good shape.  If you can answer the second one in 1 hour you
          are in better shape.

          1.  John starts to walk at
              5 miles/hour from point A to point B which are 10 miles
              apart.  The problem is his dog, which runs twice as fast
              as he does, starts with him and go back and forth in
              between him and point B during his walk.  Now the
              question is:  By the time John reaches point B, how many
              miles has his dog run?

          2.  A guy is told to draw one note from a box containing
              two.  One note is supposed to write "live" and the other
              "die."  But someone told him that his enemy has put down
              "die" on both of these notes.  When he hears this, he
              said: "I am saved!"  Why?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: Everyone should change his major to Qi Gong major
Keywords: Qi Gong
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 20:45:20 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.191658.18531@schaefer.math.wisc.edu> zhao@schaefer.UUCP (Kang Zhao) writes:
>In article <1i7bdpINN9rp@crcnis1.unl.edu> tchen@hoss.unl.edu (tianan chen) writes:
>>     Frankly, I am really confused about Qi Gong. If Qi Gong masters can do 
>>     everything they want to do, why all of us, stupid guy, are still busy
>>     with something else. We should change our major to Qi Gong major. Ops,
>>     I forget something. May be it's too late for us to learn Qi Gong. I 
>>     heard that one should go to a very remote mountain, find a very strange
>>     master, start practice Qi Gong at his very young age. So, how about next
>>     generation? People should send all their children to The Qi Gong University
>>     of Remote Mountain at China. Then, hundreds or thousands of "A" students
>>     would become new Qi Gong master and control the nature.
>>
>>     My former advisor at China is a professor and a director of a institute. He
>>     practice Qi Gong for years. He strongly believe some day he could see the 
>>     atoms and molecules in a flask by his naked eyes and control the chemical  
>>     reactions inside. This make me don't know whether to laugh or to cry, Ku(1)
>>     Xiao(4) Bu De.
>>     
>>     C
>>     I really hope someone can tell me the truth of Qi Gong.
>>     .ek
>>
>
>I cannot tell you the truth but I can tell you a story. One of my officemate
>found a job in the past summer after he practiced Qi Gong for about 6 months,
>although he failed finding job in 90 and 91. When he began practicing Qi
>Gong, I asked him why he spent his time on QI Gong not on his research. He
>answered that Qi Gong can let you achieve anything you want. At that time,
>the most he needed was a job. My reaction was a laugh. But a few months later,
>he got what he wanted. Amazing? I have to claim that not everyone can succeed
>practicing Qi Gone. So I never believe it and never try to.  
The two events may be just coincidence. I felt embarassed about my fellow
"educated" comptrotes are still advancing those rumers.
It is just against everything we learnt. Hard, scientifici, extensive  evidence
have to be shown.
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Subject: what is this
Date: 24 Dec 92 01:55:59 GMT
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From: huangs@ecf.toronto.edu (HUANG SUNG CHING)
Subject: Re: Looking Back From 2992 - The disastrous 21st century
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 22:01:21 GMT

In article <1993Jan2.013943.14016@leland.Stanford.EDU> lee@umunhum.stanford.edu (Fung Fung Lee) writes:
>
>The other new great power was the oil-rich Muslims.

     It cannot be them because by 2992, their oil would have been used up by 
the world.
From: stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: The depreciation of RMB
Date: 21 Dec 1992 17:56:36 GMT
Organization: Sun
NNTP-Posting-Host: stevelin

In article <1992Dec18.232327.14763@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> (Weimin Liu) writes:
>>If you have noticed, the value of RMB is going down and down.
>>It has been depreciated many times since the China door is open.
>>It has been in flexible rate day to day, city to city (I wonder
>>why it changes city to city).
>>
>>It may go down 10:1 against the US dollar soon!
>
>IMHO, the true value of a RMB is about $2 USD (that's right, $1 US is about
>worth 0.5 RMB), but it may take years to actually get there on the market. 
>
>Weimin (wliu@lando.hns.com)

The blank talking does not help. This is the second reminder. In September
while I was in China, the exchange rate was 1:5.6, Now it is 1:7.X.
It is your own decision to save your money, or to depreciate your RMB
in your own pocket.:-(
From: songhua@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu ([hello])
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Car forsale!!!
Date: 30 Dec 92 16:41:41 GMT
Reply-To: songhua@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu ([hello])
Distribution: austin
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: songhua@happy.cc.utexas.edu



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From: dliu@ark.njit.edu (Dong Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Two puzzles
Date: 22 Dec 92 02:39:14 GMT
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, NJIT
X-News-Reader: GNUS 3.14.1 for GNU Emacs 18.59.5

>>>>> On 22 Dec 92 00:22:34 GMT, Tuya@ccmail.uoregon.edu (Tuya) said:


Tuya>           If you can answer the first one in 10 senconds you are in
Tuya>           good shape.  If you can answer the second one in 1 hour you
Tuya>           are in better shape.

Tuya>           1.  John starts to walk at
Tuya>               5 miles/hour from point A to point B which are 10 miles
Tuya>               apart.  The problem is his dog, which runs twice as fast
Tuya>               as he does, starts with him and go back and forth in
Tuya>               between him and point B during his walk.  Now the
Tuya>               question is:  By the time John reaches point B, how many
Tuya>               miles has his dog run?

Tuya>           2.  A guy is told to draw one note from a box containing
Tuya>               two.  One note is supposed to write "live" and the other
Tuya>               "die."  But someone told him that his enemy has put down
Tuya>               "die" on both of these notes.  When he hears this, he
Tuya>               said: "I am saved!"  Why?

That's too easy!

1. his dog has run 20 miles, details left as an exercise.
2. he destroyed the note he selected and read the other one then claimed
that the note he selected is "live".

--dong
--
Dong Liu  <dliu@ace.njit.edu>
Electrical and Computer Engineering Department
New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, NJ 07102
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: uphhswh@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Subject: Re: old man cross river
Reply-To: uphhswh@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 03:44:10 GMT

In article <009657A3.B52FE8A0@Msu.oscs.montana.edu>, uphhswh@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes:
>an old man in his 70s crossed a river without bridge.  the river is wide and
>deep. he wears a long scarf. there is a tree at the other side of river.
>how come?
>W.Huang
>
answer: it is winter.
W.Huang 
have fun in dull work, keep sharp in dull enviroment, merry Xmas
From: yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: A fun story
Date: 23 Dec 92 19:46:20 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

This happened to a friend of mine:

Their grandpa is going to visit them.  He told his son: "you will call
him ye2 ye5, and he will call you sun1 zi5".  His son then ask: "What is
sun1 zi5?".  He replied "sun1 zi5 is er2 zi5 de er2 zi5".  

The son thought it must be something nice.  He yelled to his mother as
she came into home, "sun1 zi5!"  The father immediately stopped the son
and said: "You can't say sun1 zi5 arbitrarily as it is a ma4 ren2 de
hua4".  His son said, "Then why you call me sun1 zi5?"!

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From: liuyh@vis.toronto.edu (Yuanhui Liu)
Subject: Re: World Journal
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Distribution: na  
Date: 21 Dec 92 23:19:10 GMT

In article <ljcai7INNoh6@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin) writes:
>
>In the late 70's the World Journal was based in Hong Kong and owned by Hong Kong
>finance group. The United Daily News of Taiwan took over and then the news 
>publication was reorgnized. Instead of reporting Hong Kong news only, the World
>Journal expanded to report: world news, Taiwan news, mainland news, Hong Kong
                                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
They beefed up mainland news pretty recent, i remember 4-5 years back 
they had not much mainland news.  

>news, and south east Asia Chinese community news. It has published over 40 some
>pages since then. In Chinese news publication, it is number one in the US 
>Chinese reader market.

well, that really depends on the local chinese populations from, mainlanders
and people from TAiwan tends to buy WJ, but here is Toronto it's been
out sold 3:1.  

Granted in my opinion it is a better newspaper than some of the Hong-kong
oriented paper here.  
>
>Though the owner is a KMT, the WJ apparently has no dedication to KMT. Though
>it is emphasized on Taiwan news, it is not a pro-KMT newspaper in general.
>
I heard the owner was on the KMT central committee.  
it has moved somewhat to the center in recent years, ie not so pro-KMT
on demand.  

>Recently, the TIers in Taiwan accused that the United Daily and World Journal
>as a message passer of People's Daily. No matter what the accusation was, is
>there any basis to say so?  Isn't that funny to say so?  Or TIers just try
>to blacken everything that does not work in the same line as TIers want to be?
>
it does use quite a lot of "XinHua" or "Zhong Xin" news piece especially
on its mainland coverage, but I fail to see how it is a message passer,
it remains a center-right newspaper.  I was surprised a couple of weeks
ago to see its editorials cited the failure of Boris Yeltsin's reform, and
listed the successes of his CCP counter parts, that's giving credit
when credit is due, it's quite fair and hardly CCP's mouthpiece.    

>If WJ is a pro-CCP newspaper, I would think that there is no newspaper in 
>Chinese community is a neutral one. What do you think?

I don't think there's a "truly" neutral one, each is slanted one way or
the other, but WJ has come closer to the center now.  

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: Be realistic (Re: Newwer China)
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:14:40 GMT

In article <lk4c91INN2l9@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin) writes:
>In article <C03GM9.82G@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> bihkyan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Yang Yuanxin) writes:
>>In article <9212301920.AA21214@gandalf.gso.uri.edu_> (Jean-Francois Cayula) writes:
>>
>>     American have a treaty with Taiwan, and F-16 is out of date, but
>
>Be realistic, folks! The other story that showed how the US shifted the
>diplomatic relationship to PRC while the US had treaty with ROC. The US
>broke the treaty purely based on what the American interest. It was so
>unfriendly treatment that ROC president was waked up in the midnight
>because the US wanted to cut the diplomatic relationship.
>
>> how about the French, it recognize the PRC as the only Government of
>> China including Taiwan province, but it sells  most advanced weapons
>> to one of it's province, what's more, the weapons' only target is
>> the reat of the PRC. 
>>
>Be realistic, Taiwan is not a province under PRC, the P'ROC has no control
>to Taiwan. As long as ROC has money to buy, what CCP can do about?
>The F-16 is out of date. But it is not too much out of date to CCP.
>The flight was designed 30 some years ago, but the equipment on the
>F-16 has been up-to-date many times (yes, many times) since then.
>
>ROC remains active, and more active in recent years. It is a sign the 
>tyrant dylnasty is over and soon will be fading away from the history!
>The Qin Shi Huang showed his example, the one killed millions of Chinese
>people will not be long in the world! The killers have to go to hell!
>
>>    Just think about it! Do you still thing the French is doing anything
>> right? it's really a shame. what kind of people would do anything only
>> for money? (I did see a lot of this kind of people in certral Paris,I 
>> was really surprised) 
>>
>The people who should feel shame are those supporting CCP to hell. While
>the CCP keep killing people year by year, many of netters have relatives
>been killed by the CCP, some day it will be your turn if it is not today.
>Some day, the CCP supporters will have to go to labor camp to be the slaves
>of Chinese killer. Your gands experienced that, and so will you guys if
>you people can not wake up! Shame! Why the Hong Kong people want to go
>away from CCP control? Doesn't it give you guys something to think?
>
>
CCP certainly had it's problem before and now. But KMT bad mouth played
important role in the perception of China among Tawanese. West will always
trash China, Chinese, unless China has a puppet Government.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: a joke
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 05:31:16 GMT

"Each year, there are hundreds of  Chinese risk their lives in order to get 
into the land of opertunity via boat." One asserted.
"yelp, there are more than thousands of Chinese give up their lives in order
to go to hell by committing suicide each year."
From: zshi@acsu.buffalo.edu (Zhixin Shi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Where is the GB for the new HXWZ ?
Date: 2 Jan 93 04:10:01 GMT
Organization: UB

Hi there,
I usually get HXWZ (cnd-cm) gb file from ftp site 192.55.187.25 under
/gb/cnd-cm/.  But these two weeks I couldn't find the gb files in there. 
Could anyone tell me why or how to get the gb file instead only the ps
ones? 
Thanks. 
Happy New Year to all of you there!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: Newwer China
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 23:18:53 GMT

In article <C03GM9.82G@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> bihkyan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Yang Yuanxin) writes:
>In article <9212301920.AA21214@gandalf.gso.uri.edu_> cayula@gandalf.gso.uri.edu (Jean-Francois Cayula) writes:
>>|>    they would not been offered a chance to take the contract of $billions
>>|>    Guangzhou subway project, according to instructions from CG.
>>|> 
>>|>       -- I feel better now.
>>
>      Me too.
There are more to come, according to People's Daily. It said something like
Frence will be ultimate loser. I am not soure whether the threat is going to
be carried out. I think it should. I Watch out there might be a West
conspracy, Given the time conincidence among Patten, F16, Mirage issues.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: fengxi@prancer.eche.ualberta.ca (Fengxi Zhou)
Subject: Re: [news] fan3 gong4 yi4 shi4
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 23:48:38 GMT

yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding) writes:
: Zuo2 chang2ren2, Jiang1 Hong2jun1, Si1 xiao3ling2, got death penalty in
: Taibei Dec 29, 1992.  Kind of ironic, isn't it?
:

Please forgive my ignorance but what is the charge?


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From: wshi@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Weiping Shi)
Subject: Re: How can you win?
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 04:22:13 GMT

>In article <92352.193240XXX100@psuvm.psu.edu> XXX100@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>I am going to G-city in a few days.
>Would you netters  kindly suggest some strategies to win,
>so that I can get money donated?
>And hope other people win more then donate more.
>X Xu

Go get some books on blackjack, or read the newsgroup
rec.games.gamble.
From: john@jho.com (John Ho)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Release data TOEFL/TSE, GRE Physics
Date: 24 Dec 92 03:39:03 GMT
Organization: JHO Company, Dallas, Texas USA

huss8397@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

>>         Educational Testing Service (ETS) reserves the right to cancel
>> scores for tests it administers whenever there is substantial basis
>> for questioning the validity of test scores.  Although we recognize
>> that not all examinees at the test centers in question were involved,
>> ETS has decided to cancel the scores of all examinees in China in
>> order to ensure the valildity of all GRE and TOEFL scores and the
>> fair treatment of all examinees.  It is ETS policy to do so when
>> individuals with questionable scores may be indistiguishable from
>> others whose scores are valid.

>        If believe that this is an American company.  They should have to give
>a detailed and written explanantion complete with test data to the public.
> 

ETS is a very reputable organisation and they will not cancel all the
test scores unless they have concerte evidences.  The fact is that it is 
better for ETS to cancel the score right now than cancel the scores a year
from now - I have seen that happened one time myself - a friend of mine
cheated in the TOFEL examin by asking another friend to write the TOFEL
exam for her.  The score was 650 compared to the previous 430 she was 
getting.  She got admitted into the university but ETS came back a year
later and informed the university of possible fraud.  Result. She got
thrown out of school and she was already in her second semester.
-- 
John Ho from Dallas, Texas USA. (john@jho.com)
From: zxia@aris.ss.uci.edu (Zehue Xia)
Subject: Chinese word processor
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 31 Dec 92 06:53:32 GMT

	I am looking for Chinese word processor. The Ping1Yin1 input is
too slow. I would like to try some software designed for professionals.
I wonder if there is some Chinese word processor that can let an experienced 
person typing Chinese as fast as typing English. Any kind of information 
is welcome. 

				Thank you very much. 



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From: jamesou@zygote.hsc.usc.edu (James Ou)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Hus Fu and the Japanese
Date: 24 Dec 1992 12:05:47 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In <1992Dec24.002348.7263@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
(Nelson Lu) writes:

>I really haven't seen much concrete evidence to support the
>contention that Hsu Fu's expedition landed in Japan.

Most of the evidence are circumstantial. For example, there is a
port in Japan which is named "Qin2 Jin1". (Jin1 as in Jin1 Jin1
You3 Wei4 [tasty]). That port was suspected to be the place where
Xu2 Fu2 and his people landed. Another piece of evidence came
from the observation that there was a significant improvement of
farming technology in Japan about two millenia ago. It was
suspected that the new technology was brought into Japan by Xu
and his people.

>This is a problematic point; the emperor of Qin, Yin2 Jen4, was not really
>more tyrannic than most of the emperors who came later;

True, but he was more tyrannic than the kings of the other
warring states before the unification of China. He was tyrannic,
because he was the first person to set up the law to execute
anybody who dared to mention anything about the government on the
street (Yu3 Yu3 Qi4 Shi4 [death penalty for talking on the
street]). He was also the person who slaughtered all the people
of a village only because someone casted on a meteorite a sentence
cursing him. From what people casted on that meteorite (Shi3
huang2 si3 er2 di4 fen1 [when the first emperor dies, the land
will be divided/the earth will crack]), it was quite clear that
people at that time did not like him much. (You can't blame this
on Confucians. :-) ) Also look at the Palace (A1 Fang2 Gong1) and
the tomb he built, hundreds of thousands of people were enslaved
to do these two jobs. There was no question that Ying Zheng was a
tyrant. However, IMO, the worst crime that Qin2 Shi3 Huang2
committed was to burn books and prevent ordinary people from
learning.

>however, he got most
>of his blame unfairly from Confucian historians due to the fact that he
>favored legalism (and not Confucianism).

No, historians blamed him because he was indeed a tyrant.

>Therefore, if Yin Jen was not
>particularly a bad emperor, why would Hsu Fu even think about "saving the
>Chinese people from ruin" if he's not ruining them?  This is one thing that
>I feel skeptical about this study.

I am skeptical, too. It is hard to believe that XuFu left China
only because he wanted to save Chinese people from being ruined.
At that time, the warring states had just been unified. The
concept of "one country" was still vague to most of the ordinary
people.


*****Da4 Zi4 Bao4 on TianAnMen sqare on 4.5.76

Qin2 shi3 huang2 de0 shi2 dai4 yi3 jing1 guo4 qu4 le0
Ci2 xi1 tai4 hou4 de0 shi2 dai4 yi3 jing1 bu2 zai4 le0.
(The era of Qin-shi emperor is gone.
 The era of CiXi empress is gone.)

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