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From: tdy3835@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.diplomacy
Subject: Re: CALL FOR PLAYERS IN THE TORONTO AREA (user testing for MSc)
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:50:02 GMT
Reply-To: tdy3835@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology


We at RIT indeed HAVE a VaxDiplomacy game..in fact there are usually two at a time.  It was written by Steve Schultz.  I dont know that I should give out his email at this time so I will not.  However if you are intrested in his programs mail me and I'll contact him for it.

It is the standard Diplomacy game..with map and all.  Mostly all things work..once in a while we get a nasty in there...alot of times the game forgets to cut a support..or a nation dislodges its own unit.  These can be manually fixed by the gamemaster and the game shouts out Panic! when this happens.

We also have a manual copy of the Youngstown version of the game....but Youngstowns offboards are too hard to play...and alot of the islands are rather unfair...such as Formosa (yes youngstown adds in China Japan and India as nations..and adds many spaces to Europes board....which RUINS Austria..as Montenegro sits just under TRieste and just noth of Albania not allwing Austria to get Greece in first year as stadrard game does)...

For anyone intrested in our Vax version of the game...or Youngstown and how it works..mail me.  I have played and worked with the game many times.

	--Darkwolf 
        aka Comrade Viteski of the Great Russian Expansionist empire of Doom
                               (G.R.E.E.D.)
From: markhof@ls12r.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Ingolf Markhof)
Newsgroups: rec.games.diplomacy
Subject: I need a map!
Date: 10 Nov 1992 11:19:41 GMT
Organization: CS Department, Dortmund University, Germany
Distribution: world
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Keywords: Diplomacy


Hi there!

  I've got the maps from the juge. They are really good. But I'd like to
have a map for a pbm-Zine to include unit positions. In the maps from
the judge, all sea areas are gray. As the Zine is printed and copied in
black & white, it's hard to see any sea units in the gray backgound.

  So, what I want is a map without any gray sea areas. I'm not a PostScript
freak and I don't know how to delete the fill pattern commands from the
judge's PostScript map.

  Can anyone give me a map without gray sea areas?

Regards,
Ingolf!

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From: mappler@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Matthew A Appler)
Subject: Map scaling
Organization: /usr/users/user4/mappler/.organization
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:56:05 GMT

I noticed a few posts about this, but couldn't find a deffinative
"this is what you do" answer.  I don't know post-script, but is there
an easy way to scale up the standard variant's map?  It's currently on
a single page, which makes england and italy a little on the small
side.  Thx....

  Matt
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From: kpearce@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (BULLDAWG)
Subject: Re: Play by net game
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:14:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.004613.23661@griffin.itc.gu.edu.au> Danny@sct.gu.edu.au (Danny James) writes:
>
>Has anyone thought about a play by net Diplomacy game?
>
>Danny 


If anybody cares, that has been going on for a long time.  I used to play
dip fairly frequently... in fact a lot of the games got started in 
rec.games.board.

Curious, I haven't seen the new faq, but was this group created for the 
benifit of those who used to use r.g.b???  Back when I played, at least 30-50%
of the traffic on that group was for dip.

Anybody up for setting up a dip adjucator on their machine????

Anybody know of any active one???

questions, questions.

Ken


>
>-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.games.diplomacy
From: jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com
Subject: Re: What functions would you like in a "judge output parser"?
Organization: Searle, Skokie, IL
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 11:44:13 GMT

In article <BxKDFz.F40@world.std.com>, kovar@world.std.com (David C Kovar) writes:
>   Well, I started out on this project so I could feed the results from
> a "list" command into some code and get out a PostScript map with the
> unit positions marked. That's actually complete, as of this morning.
> It'll tack the country and unit type onto the end of the location
> name. For example, a Germany army in the Ruhr would cause the
> "Ruhr" label to be "Ruhr -GA". (Wish I had color.) It also labels
> the map with the game name and move because I play in too many
> games at once and it's hard to keep track.
...
>   Any ideas would be most welcome.

Optimally, I'd like to see a mapper program that was on-line, and didn't
require PostScript output, for Mac or Windows.  Something like BeyondMail could
feed it Judge output, right?

There should be some graphical convention to display what the moves were, like
an arrow into a country for a move, a line with a box at the end listing the
supported action, a box for convoying, etc.  This would be a royal pain,
especially for small regions like Albania or anything near Belgium.

The closest thing I have is a schematic map I drew in MacDraw II, which uses
a rectangle for each country (a topological exercise), in the proper
relationships.  I cheated in that the seas are not rectangular.  I use MDII's
slide show feature to have the map in the background, and the pieces and supply
centers are color coded and on each slide.  I use F's and A's for fleets and
armies.

I'm planning on re-doing this for my next game, using letters for the
countries, since I don't have access to a color printer.  This makes it harder
to track the status of a supply center, though, as I have to keep re-typing.

Anyone interested in this?

Joel
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From: positron@engin.umich.edu (Jonathan Scott Haas)
Subject: The Rules
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 08:03:40 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

Hi all...

I played Diplomacy once or twice about ten years ago, and don't remember
much about the rules. I'd like to learn how to play and start getting into
playing games on the Judge. Can anyone give me detailed info on how to
play? The Judge's file server says that it doesn't have permission to
send out copies of the rules, but that doesn't prohibit someone from just
telling me how to play.

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From: velardeb@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (VELARDE BRANDON CRAI)
Subject: Replacement for France needed (Locust)
Summary: game stopped, need replacement 
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:09:08 GMT

The game locust is currently stuck because France dropped out.  We could really
use a replacement.  If anyone is interested in controlling France in it's
difficult but not impossible situation, please sign on.  France is/was fighting
Germany only, and Germany is moving on Russia, so France will be his second
front.  Do a list of the game and if you have any questions, let me know
by email or here.

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From: starkey@netcom.com (Sean Starkey)
Subject: Problems printing Youngstown map - solution!
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 07:33:49 GMT


This is a followup article to a posting a few days ago.  I lost the original
post, so this will have to do...

I had problems printing out the original Youngstown map on my printer also.
The heap ran out of memory...  I hacked at the postscript code to cut down
on the memory usage (it works now).  The only problem is that the new code
is not scalable to any size.  It's fixed to 1x1 (1 piece of paper).  Better 
than no map at all.

If whoever has had problems with the original Youngstown map would like my
modified copy, send me some Email and I'll rush you off a copy.


	Sean Starkey			starkey@netcom.com
Home:	444 Saratoga Ave.	Work:	Process & Cryogenic Services, Inc.
	Apt. 19K			2220 Martin Ave.
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	(408) 985-1454			(408) 727-3700

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From: 93jay@williams.edu (Jonathan Young)
Subject: Brief map question
Organization: Williams College, Williamstown, MA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:27:20 GMT

We have just started a Play by campus mail diplomacy game here, using
a board traced from the original and mounted and cannot determine from
that if it is possible for an army to move from Spain <-> North Africa
From a reading of the rules it would appear not, but there are little
arrows on the (traced) map.

Thanks
Jonathan Young 
Williams Association of Role Players
Newsgroups: rec.games.diplomacy
From: dsinger@trentu.ca (David Singer)
Subject: Re: CALL FOR PLAYERS IN THE TORONTO AREA (user testing for MSc)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Trent University Computer Services Department
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:58:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.225002.27156@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, tdy3835@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes...
> 
>We at RIT indeed HAVE a VaxDiplomacy game..in fact there are usually two at a time.  It was written by Steve Schultz.  I dont know that I should give out his email at this time so I will not.  However if you are intrested in his programs mail me and I'll
> 
>It is the standard Diplomacy game..with map and all.  Mostly all things work..once in a while we get a nasty in there...alot of times the game forgets to cut a support..or a nation dislodges its own unit.  These can be manually fixed by the gamemaster an
> 
>We also have a manual copy of the Youngstown version of the game....but Youngstowns offboards are too hard to play...and alot of the islands are rather unfair...such as Formosa (yes youngstown adds in China Japan and India as nations..and adds many space
> 
>For anyone intrested in our Vax version of the game...or Youngstown and how it works..mail me.  I have played and worked with the game many times.
> 
>	--Darkwolf 
>        aka Comrade Viteski of the Great Russian Expansionist empire of Doom
>                               (G.R.E.E.D.)
Darkwolf:
	The game sounds really interesting, but I know very little about 
it.  Could you please send me more info?  Thanks
David Singer
From: 2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.diplomacy
Subject: Newbie.
Date: 10 Nov 1992 03:07:23 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu

howdy folks....

I have played Diplomacy a coupla times in real life...it is unfortunately
very tough to get a group together..I would like to play via internet/email
but I dont know how...I saw the Internet users guide post..but this account
is too small to open it (and it would bounce if it were mailed here) so
could someone email me a reasonably brief (less than 500 lines 8-) ) idea
on how to get involved...I loved the game and I would really like to get 
involved...(I should mention that I have a much larger account at another
university..this group just isnt on their newsfeeder and their mailer is a 
real dog...thus I use this one for those purposes)...

Thanx in advance.
-justin.
Newsgroups: rec.games.diplomacy
From: c85perwe@IDA.LiU.SE (Per Westling)
Subject: Re: Reading Material
Reply-To: c85perwe@und.ida.liu.se
Organization: CIS Dept, University of Linkoping, Sweden
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 09:02:29 GMT

In-reply-to: arkoff@sun.lclark.edu's message of 10 Nov 92 06:44:31 GMT
> Can anyone reccomend any good reading material about Diplomacy?  My copy
> of The Gamer's guide is really beat up from being read so often.  Also, any
> suggestions for good Diplomacy magazines?  Addresses would be appreciated
> and prices if available.
>
> -Gary

Soon the new "Gamer's Guide" will appear but until then there are some
publications you can read.  First there are those "novice packages"
(which I can't remember the address to, but see DW below).  Then there
are the hard copy book about Diplomacy!  Well, it has been sold out
for ages but due to an agreement between the author (Richard Sharp)
and a hobbyist in the states copies (photocopied) may be ordered.  I
think the price is $6 or so.  Address:
	Fred C Davis Jr
	3210 K Wheaton Way
	Ellicott City
	MD 21043
	USA

Regarding magazines I can recommend one as a starter, namely
"Diplomacy World"!  This quarterly publication is the closest thing to
semi-pro fanzine the hobby has (at least in the states) and cost (I
think) US$3 per issue.  I think the editor, David Hood, will send you
an free issue if you ask him.  His address?  Well he has moved....
but before this he lived at 2905 20th Street, NE Hickory, NC 28601,
USA.  The latest issue (Fall 92) gave good pointers to fanzines and
other publications, for example Sharpe's book above, the novice
packages and more.  There are also a list (although a bit dated...)
with available openings, but also a plugg of the monthly "available
openings" list: PONTIVEDEIRA (or something like that).  

There are back issues available of Diplomacy World, among them one
containing an interview of no other than Eric Klien (who? ;-).



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From: Danny@sct.gu.edu.au (Danny James)
Subject: Play by Mail (E-Mail)
Originator: Danny@tomahawk.me.gu.edu.au
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 03:24:15 GMT


PBM diplomacy is available on judge@shrike.und.ac.za

mail with subject or body HELP


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From: minelson@nyx.cs.du.edu (mark nelson)
Subject: Re: Practice with PRESS on judge
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 22:47:49 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.161323.395@odin.diku.dk> jkut@diku.dk (Jonatan Kutc
insky) writes:
>On the games running in Washington, what is the most common practice
>on sending personal messages to the other players?
>
>Do you send the messages via the judge, or do you mail them directly to 
he
>receivers e-mail address? Of course, both is possible, but maybe the
>moderator want the pleasure of following the negotiations between the
>combatants.
>
>************************************************************************
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>        Jonatan Kutchinsky, Copenhagen, Denmark. E-mail: jkut@diku.dk
>************************************************************************
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I send all my email direct to the players rather than 
signing on to the judge, it's easier and I'm laaazy!

I do keep a copy of everything that I send out though.

Mark Nelson <amt5man@sun.leeds.ac.uk>


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From: irilyth@fenris.claremont.edu (Josh Smith)
Subject: Re: Post Script Map for Youngstown Vartiant
Originator: irilyth@fenris
Organization: HMC Academic Computing Services
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:39:17 GMT

In a prior article, Sean MacIntosh (casmacin@atlas.cs.upei.ca) writes;

> I have a slight problem.  I have access to a post script printer
> but unfortunately I can't seem to print the copy of the youngstown map
> which it `got' from the judge@milton.  I looked at the file and it looks to
> be in a type of TEX language which I can't figure out how to compile.  

Actually, it's just plain Postscript, so you should be able to send it to
your Postscript printer via any of the usual methods. If you need help
downloading a Postscript file, either ask someone at your site, or send me
e-mail and I can try to help. You shouldn't have to compile or otherwise
mess with the file, though--it's already plain Postscript.

Note that you can set the size of the map in the first few lines of the
file. You might want to edit those before printing. I've found that Europe
is too small on a 2 x 2 map for units to fit in easily, but that 3 x 3 works
well for that purpose (though Asia becomes truly huge). 1 x 1 is good for
conference maps, or for marking on with colored pens or pencils. I haven't
tried N x M, N != M.

Good luck!
-- 
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From: arkoff@sun.lclark.edu (Gary Arkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.games.diplomacy
Subject: Reading Material
Date: 10 Nov 92 06:44:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Nov10.064431.10600
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

Can anyone reccomend any good reading material about Diplomacy?  My copy
of The Gamer's guide is really beat up from being read so often.  Also, any
suggestions for good Diplomacy magazines?  Addresses would be appreciated
and prices if available.

-Gary

-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.games.diplomacy
From: casmacin@atlas.cs.upei.ca (Sean MacIntosh)
Subject: Post Script Map for Youngstown Vartiant
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:26:24 GMT


Greetings Fellow Diplomats,

	I have a slight problem.  I have access to a post script printer
but unfortunately I can't seem to print the copy of the youngstown map
which it `got' from the judge@milton.  I looked at the file and it looks to
be in a type of TEX language which I can't figure out how to compile.  

	My question (or favor) is thus:  Is there anyone out there who
might be able to send me the compiled version of the youngstown map?  My
mailer is MIME capable so you can send it to me as an attachment to a
message or (if you don't mind) you could uuencode it and send it through
mail.  

	Any help would be appreciated!!  

Sean MacIntosh

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From: irilyth@fenris.claremont.edu (Josh Smith)
Subject: Re: Play by net game
Originator: irilyth@fenris
Organization: HMC Academic Computing Services
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:13:18 GMT

In a prior article, Ken Samuel (kbs@cs.utexas.edu) writes:

> I've always wanted to play a live dip game on a mud...

Stay tuned: I'm working on designing such a beast even as we speak. I'll
post more information when I have more time.
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Harvey Mudd College, Claremont CA     ::  consult(std-disclaimer.pl).
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several of us died of tuberculosis." -Jack Handey, Deep Thoughts
From: nautilus@lachesis.acm.rpi.edu (John M. Twilley)
Newsgroups: rec.games.diplomacy
Subject: Judge & time?
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:43:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: rpi.hdr1_v=
Organization: The Voice of Fate


How long should it take for me to get a response from judge to
a SIGNON ? xxxxxx -- HELP was fast.

Jack.
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From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Subject: Re: What is it all about?
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:01:09 GMT

<In article <1992Nov9.203533.14175@cbis.ece.drexel.edu> jpw@lorelei.ece.drexel.edu (Joseph Wetstein) writes:

<Could somebody please explain the game for those of us who don't already
<know??

	Certainly. 

	Rule Number One: "Nosy" always gets to play Britain...

	Rule Number Two: "Nosy" always is your friend....just follow
	all suggestions & you'll do fine....

	I believe that about sums it up, yes?

	Anyone else have anything they'd care to add to this?

	<stepping back from the virtual avalanche....>
From: patki@khaldhun.soc.duke.edu (Phillip Atkison)
Newsgroups: rec.games.diplomacy
Subject: Game Boyne needs one more player
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:44:10 GMT

Forgive me if this is redundant. Boyne, an 1898 variant game, is currently
begin formed on the u.washington.edu judge. Only one more player is needed. 
Please join the fun and signon today!


-- Phillip Atkison
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