From: behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna)
Subject: Re: Thanks a pant's full, DoD...
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: NEC Systems Laboratory, Inc.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 18:41:25 GMT

In article <secCo6G00iUxM1hYNg@andrew.cmu.edu> "Peter A. Simon" <ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>The banana writes:

	You insist on using "banana" as if you thought it was original or
clever.  That name is older than you are.  Give it up.

>>>  Now it's Harley's turn to get its cues from
>>>the japs.
>> 
>>	Speaking as one scarred over the "jap" flamewars, I like Japanese
>>motorcycles.  At least the ones with original styling.  Yours ain't one of
>>those.
>> 
>>>   Read the book, asshole.
>> 
>>	What book, asshole?
>> 
>>>>	Your righteous indignation deserves to be flamed.  Goddamn newbie.
>>>
>>>Newbie to what, dickhead?  I've been riding longer than you've been
>>>alive.
>> 
>>	Doubtful.  
>
>Doubtful?  I bought and sold my first three motorcycles before you were
>born.  A single-cylinder, 250 cc Ducati, a BMW R57, and a Matchless CS
>650 (brand new).

	Now why on earth would you give up a Matchless?  Other than Lucas, I
mean.

>>On second thought, you *do* look older than dried-up batshit.
>
>Would someone please help the newbie poser out?

	As I've said before, your choice of riding attire screams "poser."  I
*ride*.  I *always* wear my leather, my gloves, and my boots.  Especially since
it was emphatically proved to me that "It _can_ happen to me."  I lost
absolutely no skin, which I credit to proper attire.  You could learn from
that.

	Newbie my ass.  I may not have been riding as long as you have
(judging from your comments, most people in this group haven't either), but I
have taken care to learn to do it right.  

>These older than
>dried-up batshit brains of mine don't retain useless information anymore
>(like the titles of books I'm not going to read a second time).  To wit:
> Some dude wrote a book about Harley's revival.  The author had access
>to Harley's top executives and was very sympathetic to the company.  It
>presented Harley as a shining example of turning a company around by
>dropping what is bad in America's mfg. attitude and technology and
>adopting whatever is useful from the Japanese.

	The book is _Well Made in America_.  The techniques are not Japanese:
they were conceived by an American named Deming.  U.S. manufacturers ignored
him in favor of quick profits and they're now paying the price.  The Japanese
took him to heart and are now reaping the profits.

>It's an interesting book.  It's a pity that the IQs of some Harley
>riders, like our yellow fruit friend here, isn't sufficient to enjoy
>written material.

	Fuck you.  This "discussion" we're having has nothing to do with
Harley vs. Yamahondakawzuki.  It has to do with your crybaby whining when no
one replied to your original query.  Stunning silence has happened to my
queries too, but I don't whine about it.

>>>You know, bandangle, we were discussing you at a club meeting a
>>>month or so back and several people said, "Oh, he was all right, we
>>>guess, until he got that Harley.  Now he's got some sort of an attitude.
>>> Well, what we mean is, he's been fucking insufferable since then."
>> 
>>	You mean you actually SHOWED UP for a meeting?  Attitude, shmattitude.
>>What the hell do you think _you're_ shoveling?
>> 
>>	That club denigrated into a worthless pile of shit in a hurry when
>>the folks who actually ride instead of talking about riding left.  I really
>>don't give two shits about your opinions.
>
>Thanks for making my point for me.

	What point is that?  That the CMU Riding Club degenerated into a bunch
of "let's talk about doing stuff" people instead of people who actually do
stuff.  My problems with that organization root from wanting to go ride and
see some nice places that might be (gasp) more than 50 miles away from
Pittsburgh.  The membership made excuses ("I don't have time."  "That's too
far."  "Can we go 50mph?"), I got pissed, and that was that.  Once again,
there is nothing in that conflict that has anything to do with Harley vs.
whatever.

	I think I should point out that the club took delight in poking fun
at my oil-dripping, difficult-to-start ride, and I took it well.  But let ME
make fun of your Japanese rides, and OH BOY HERE'S ANOTHER HARLEY RIDER WITH
AN ATTITUDE.  No, there's no double standard there.

	Go pose with your bike, Pete.  I want to *ride* mine.

Chris BeHanna	DoD# 114   1983 Harley-Davidson FXWG Wide Glide (She lives!)
behanna@syl.nj.nec.com	   (I need another bike for this space!)

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Chris BeHanna	DoD# 114   1983 Harley-Davidson FXWG Wide Glide (She lives!)
behanna@syl.nj.nec.com	   (I need another bike for this space!)

Disclaimer:  Now why would NEC agree with any of this anyway?
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