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From: bmadsen@supernet.dallas.haus.com (Brian Madsen)
Subject: GEDCOM 5.0 (was: What is current GEDCOM spec?)
Organization: Harris Adacom Corporation, Dallas, Tx
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 20:27:11 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.032605.8770@demon.co.uk> Trevor Jenkins <tfj@cix.compulink.co.uk> writes:
>What is the current version of the GEDCOM specification? I have a
>copy of release 4.0 of the document dated August 1989 and have
>identified many errors and ambiguities in that particular text.
>It would be useful to know if it has been updated before I submit
>my comments to the LDS.

They're currently reviewing GEDCOM 5.0, which should be released
officially any time now.  As a "recognized GEDCOM software developer",
I've seen a draft of 5.0, and it looks GREAT.  I'll bet real money
that many or most of the ambiguities that you've identified have
been resolved.  I noticed a lot of them too, and 5.0 addresses all
the ones that I've seen.

>By the way, is there anyway to address electronic mail to the
>Family History Department in Utah? It seems a shame, for me to
>have to print the text out and snail mail it to them when I could
>email it instead. It has been suggested to me that there is BBS
>sysop somewhere who has offered to forward mail to them but I was
>looking for a more direct route.

There's a way to get to them from CompuServe.  It's like GO GEDCOM
or something.  If you're really interested, and if no one else 
responds to this with more details, let me know, and I'll look it
up for you.  (I don't know for certain because I don't use Compu-
Serve, so I've never done it.)

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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 15:02:31 EST
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From:         "Bill Veselik WCVESEB@VCCSCENT" <WCVESEB@VCCSCENT.BITNET>
Subject:      E-mail address for Urbana Technologies, Illinois

Hello all,

A few weeks ago, there was a posting to the list concerning research in
the former Soviet Union.

The firm in the U.S. that acts as the go-between for research is
Urbana Technologies
2011 Silver Ct. E.
Urbana, IL 61801

There was a reference to e-mail, but no address. I believe this company
may be on CompuServe. Can anybody locate an e-mail address for
Urbana Technologies?

Thanks,

Bill Veselik   .nl
From: kloe@fys.ruu.nl (Jos de Kloe)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Any europeans on soc.roots?
Keywords: european
Date: 8 Apr 92 09:46:21 GMT
Organization: Physics Department, University of Utrecht,  The Netherlands

Hello everybody,

I'm watching this newsgroup for several months now and I have the impression
that 99 percent of all readers are from the USA.
Since I live in Europe (The Netherlands) I would like to ask: 
are there any europeans on this newsgroup? 

Jos de Kloe.

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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 16:29:53 PDT
From:         lane@ELWOOD.ENET.DEC.COM
Subject:      digest
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Anyone interested in receiving a digest of roots-l/soc.roots traffic should
contact lane@bot000.enet.dec.com. Digests are mailed every couple of days
and do not contain material without "reference value".
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From:         "Bill Veselik WCVESEB@VCCSCENT" <WCVESEB@VCCSCENT.BITNET>
Subject:      Shotwell book

Hello again,

Just received a bit of information. The book I am looking for is entitled
"Annals of Our Colonial Ancestors and Their Descendants" by Ambrose M.
Shotwell.

Anyone know where a copy might be?

Thanks,

Bill Veselik
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:50:21 -0400
From:         gagnon@BU-PUB.BU.EDU
Subject:      mission to NEHGS
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   If NEHGS is interested in an internet connection, they would be wise to
contact the Boston Computer Society.  Their recent newsletters have been
talking about their experimentation with an internet link, and they might
consider providing NEHGS with a link to internet.

						>David<
gagnon@bu-pub.bu.edu
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 10:13:19 PDT
From:         Linda Erkelens <LINDA@UCSFVM.BITNET>
Subject:      History of Ontario Co, NY 1876

Does anyone have access to the 1876 History of Ontario County, New York ?
Published Philadelphia, Everts, Ensign, & Everts, 1876.

The All Name Index that I have also has the date "1788" in the title.

I would like a photocopy of page 251 for Peter Cameron.

The other pages that would be nice to have (I don't yet know if they are
related) are:
           pages 21,31,104,107   Charles Cameron
           pages 148,157         James Cameron
I will reinburse for photocopy and mailing costs.  Thanks in advance.

Linda Erkelens
826 Alvarado Street
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:08:54 EDT
From:         Gary Steiner <STEINER@MUPPET.DNET.GE.COM>
Subject:      RE: PAF
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MacPAF will import/export both GEDCOM files and DOS PAF files.

If you have a SuperDrive (standard on the Mac Classic, SE/30, IIcx, IIci,
IIsi and LC) then you can read/write DOS 3.5 inch floppies.

I've imported and exported files from DOS PAF, as well as GEDCOM files from
other programs with no problem.

Gary Steiner                     STEINER@Muppet.dnet.GE.com
West Berlin, NJ                  CIS: 70272,2771

**************************************************************************
Researching:  South NJ   Phila. PA    Ireland    Germany    Austria
              HAND       BUFFINGTON   LANGSHAW   MOHR       GABRIEL
              LUDLAM     COUNTRYMAN   MCKAIG     SIEGHART   STEINER
              MCKAIG     LANGSHAW     MURROW
              MOHR       LOWER        WALLACE
              WALLACE    WALLS        WALLS

and related families:  HAYES, MORRIS, PARKS, PURDEN, SAWYER, WILLIAMS
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 12:42:27 LCL
From:         Alf Christophersen <achristo@ULRIK.UIO.NO>
Subject:      Re: Duplicate Roots Surname Lists
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Comments: cc: postmaster@f170.N771.Z3.FidoNet.Org,
              Marty2 <INFO@Vm1.Nodak.Edu>,
              Hans Petter Holen <h.p.holen@usit.uio.no>

>Hi guys,

>I don't HAVE a FIDOnet account, and have no idea HOW the duplicate
>posts of the Roots Surname List (from
>karen_E._Isaacson@F170.N771.Z3.FIDONET.ORG) are happening.  If someone
>understands what is going on, let me know?  Please?  (And why
>only my RSL, instead of all the ROOTS-L traffic????)

>Karen
>karen@rand.org (karen%monty@rand.org, but accept no other substitutes!)

I have observed this mysterious 'happening' now and then. To me it seems
like it happens only to files of a certain size. Therefor, I would guess
this is an advanced bounce made when files posted to FidoNet is to big for
the net to handle. Then it bounce with a very dangerous nameshift, probably
an error on the node F170.N771.Z3 (which I believe is in New Zealand.)

I hope people at this node read this note and do some changes to the
software.
Otherwise I have to asc the Internet people to close the Fidonet feed.

Alf Christophersen
Roots-L list owner.
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 18:29:07 EST
From:         "Matt Adair" <MLADAIR@MTUS5.CTS.MTU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Genealogy software with sound and photos?
Comments: To: ROOTS-L Genealogy List <ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU>

You probably won't find any genealogy software with sound.
The way things work right now, digitizing sound on to a computer
takes TREMENDOUS amounts of space.  I can't remember any
specifics right now, but it is easy for a 30 sec sound clip to
fill up probably close to  1 megabyte of disk space.  Personally,
I wouldn't advise trying to do it.


- Matt Adair    mladair@mtus5.cts.mtu.edu

  Campus:  168 DHH MTU                Home:  409 Bent Oak
           1700 Townsend Dr.                 Fenton, MI 48430
           Houghton, MI 49931-1194

Searching: ADAIR, BAUSERMAN, BRADLEY, BROADHEAD, CARD, CARTER
           GARDNER, GLASSMIRE, GOETSCH, MCWILLIAMS, O'TOOLE
           OWEN, PERRY, SISCO, WARREN
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:20:33 CDT
From:         Gordon Seyffert <C2200L@UMVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      looking for J. Corcoran

Can someone tell me where John Corcoran of Portland, Maine,
disappeared?  He used to be a subscriber to this list....

Gordon Seyffert
C2200L@UMVMA
C2200L@UMVMA.UMSYSTEM.EDU
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From: aa581@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Sandra Rozhon)
Subject: RE: CHICAGO - research suggestions (temporary / current)
Reply-To: aa581@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Sandra Rozhon)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 00:08:28 GMT


In a previous article, "Kathy O'Meara Magnuson 1825/A-1W 708/982-4596" () says:

>I offer the following as related info.  (From reports this morning, I gather
>the flooding of the Loop tunnels from the Chicago River breakthru has gone
>broader than just local news.)  The 10pm (full coverage) news last night
>showed a worker at City Hall (the poor man looked almost in tears) patting
>and stroking stacks of ledgers piled in the City Hall Lobby with tarps thrown
>on them.  He was saying they'd managed to get them above before they were
>destroyed.  He described them as "invaluable, priceless and irreplaceable"


I wondered whether the flooding had gotten to any of the old records.  Looks
like  there might be some chance of that once all the news gets out.  I sure
hope not, though.  What a quirky disaster!

Sandy
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From: dkrause@miami.acs.uci.edu (Doug Krause)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re:      SIMTEL120 Problem
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:18:23 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <01GIN4KLOFGG90MVFH@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU> FAC_DBOYDRUS@JMUVAX1.BITNET writes:
#Douglas Krause was nice enough to tell me that software to transcribe cemetery
#inscriptions (CRD301.ZIP and CRDLT11.ZIP) can be obtained from Simtel120.  My
#problem is that I cannot access Simtel120.  Is there another source?  I have
#to both BITNET and INTERNET but the directions in the FAQ file does not work.
#Any ideas and/or suggestions.  Thanks so much.

Doug again.  Try wuarchive.wustl.edu.  It would be in

mirrors/msdos/genealogy

Good luck.  BTW, if you don't have anonymous ftp access at all I could
probably get them and mail them to you.

Douglas Krause                      One yuppie can ruin your whole day.
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University of California, Irvine    Internet: dkrause@orion.oac.uci.edu
Welcome to Irvine:  Yuppieland USA  BITNET: DJKrause@uci.edu
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 07:53:20 EDT
From:         Dick and Jill Miller <dmiller@IM.LCS.MIT.EDU>
Subject:      Your-Name products
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Chuck Klein < klein@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Charles A Klein)> asks:

>   Recently I received a catalog featuring sweatshirts that have
> Klein Biergarten  on them.  Since my name is Klein I first thought it was
> a coincidence but now I'm not sure. (In fine print the catalog says
> that there is no such place.)  Several days later I got an advertisement
> for the Klein family Visa card.  Have other people received ads
> for products with their last name?  Is marketing able to make custom
> catalogs like this?

I have seen a *magazine* (sent to a Dr. friend of ours) with similarly
'customized' ads and cartoons.  I guess this is the newest marketing
gimmick.

--Jill Miller


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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:55:00 EDT
From:         DEIS@ZODIAC.BITNET
Subject:      Re: PAF Interchangability between MAC & DOS

Hi All,

     Bill Silverthorn is indeed correct that PAF GEDCOM will easily move
from one computer to the other (for example DOS to MAC).  And it is also
true that if you can make the standard PAF DOS files available (perhaps
by uploading and downloading them or via Apple File Exchange) MAC PAF
will be able to read them even though the file format is quite different
on the two machines.  I've done it both ways.

                        Frank

               DEIS@ZODIAC.BITNET
From: thomase@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Thomas Stan England)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: HPGL Ahnentafel
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:52:19 GMT
Reply-To: thomase@tekig5.pen.tek.com
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

What is HPGL?     It stand for Hewlett Packard Graphics Language.
I have found that files of this format can be inserted into document your are
creating using word processors such as Word Perfect or Microsoft Word.
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From: jime@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41)
Subject: TT matching BBSs
Organization: MIT Lincoln Lab - Group 41
Distribution: soc.roots
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:12:39

Where can I get a list of BBSs that support the Tiny Tafel matching
service?  I have a TT that I'd like to upload, preferably to a
Boston area BBS.
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              Kalooky, Kindler, Nehring, Nershi, Re(h)winkel,
              Schall, Schreiner, Span(n)uth, Ullmer, Ziemke 
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:33:15 LCL
From:         Alf Christophersen <achristo@ULRIK.UIO.NO>
Subject:      Re: Any europeans on soc.roots?
Comments: To: ROOTS-L Genealogy List <ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU>

>Hello everybody,

>I'm watching this newsgroup for several months now and I have the impression
>that 99 percent of all readers are from the USA.
>Since I live in Europe (The Netherlands) I would like to ask:
>are there any europeans on this newsgroup?

Yes, we are some, btw. them the Roots-L List owner:-)

Alf Christophersen
Roots-L List owner

Alf.Christophersen@nutri.uio.no

(Dep. of Nutrition Research
POBox 1046, Blindern
N-0316 Oslo
Norway
From: CREECH@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Teresa Creech)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: HULSAVER and the Erie Canal
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:47:18 GMT
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering

Is anyone doing research on the HULSAVER (or possibly HALSAVER or HULSHAVER)
family?  I am having trouble tracking them down and am too far from NY to
do any local research.
 
Here's what I have:
 
My Great-Grandmother Catharine HULSAVER Adams was born on a barge on the
Erie Canal and lived on this barge until she was about 7 years old.  The
barge was the New Brunswick.  They left the boat when their parents died.
Catharine and John were sent to live with their mothers family.  I don't know
about William and Leander.  Catharine had three brothers: William HULSAVER
(a bachelor, lived in Michigan), John HULSAVER (settled in Watertown NY and
committed suicide at age 72 (the ONLY reason that I know as much as I do
is because of the newspaper artical about his death!!), and Leander Douglas
HULSAVER (died young, approx age 22).
 
Catharines parents were William H. HULSAVER and Mary Jane DOUGLASS.
I BELIEVE that William's parents were Henry HULSAVER and Catharine.
 
The HULSAVERs seemed to have been from around Montgomery CO, New York.
 
I have tried contacting the Erie Canal museum in Syracuse, New York
but they don't have any indexes either by boat name or by family name.
They are working on it (with volunteers).
 
If my house and family would quit costing money, I could afford to
go to NY and do some detective work, but right now it is impossible!!
 
Thanks,
Teresa
 
PS I have thought of something I might be able to do to help some
   of you.  I subscribe to the Genealogy Journal of Jefferson County,
   NY.  It is a small publication, published about once every two months
   and contains a wide variety of information.  If anyone needs any
   info about families in Jefferson County, let me know and I will check
   the Journal for you.  I have several years of issues laying around.
 
   Also, the ladies in the Genealogy Department of the Flower Memorial
   Library, Watertown, NY 13601 are very helpful and will answer a
   mail query.  I always enclose a small check to cover copying and postage
   fees.  They have quiet a number of notebooks with newspaper clippings
   sorted by family name.  They had the HULSAVER clippings.
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 12:42:28 EST
From:         "Matt Adair" <MLADAIR@MTUS5.CTS.MTU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Genealogy software w/sound and music
Comments: To: ROOTS-L Genealogy List <ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU>
              14 Apr 1992 01:28:59 GMT from <fcackows@GATOR.RN.COM>

I don't know how many have been keeping up with the Mac scene, but
with Apple's new QuickTime, it is possible to digitize picture and
sound and paste them into ordinary wordprocessing, etc, documents.
It's very impressive to see a digitized video clip run on computer.
I just recently saw a demonstration of it where the put color pictures
into Hypercard.  The file contained about 25 compressed pictures and would
fit onto a single floppy disk.  I am seriously thinking about the
possibility of using this to make a family album that would work on
computer.

- Matt Adair    mladair@mtus5.cts.mtu.edu

  Campus:  168 DHH MTU                Home:  409 Bent Oak
           1700 Townsend Dr.                 Fenton, MI 48430
           Houghton, MI 49931-1194

Searching: ADAIR, BAUSERMAN, BRADLEY, BROADHEAD, CARD, CARTER
           GARDNER, GLASSMIRE, GOETSCH, MCWILLIAMS, O'TOOLE
           OWEN, PERRY, SISCO, WARREN
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:28:15 CST
From:         Georgia Riley <WAYNE@UWF.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Cassidy family

Hi Sandra,

I saw your posting regarding Cassidy in Alabama and remembered some
Cassidys in a book I have "History of Henry County, AL".  Upon checking,
found a couple of Alexander Cassidys, among descendants of Hugh
Cassedy, "a Scotchman of South Carolina".  If you think you would be
interested in reviewing this information, please provide US Mail address
and I will photocopy the pages for you -- a couple of pages.

Let me know --

  Georgia
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 12:42:00 EDT
From:         GRANADAM@CITADEL.BITNET
Subject:      reaves family

I'm new to the listing and I am researching the family history of Andrew Reaves
of Marion County, South Carolina.  He belonged to Reaves Township.  He was born
in 1847 and died in 1932.  He was a slave until he was 18 years old and took
his last name from the Dr Willie  Reaves.  Dr. Reaves's father was the late
George Washington Reaves.  GWR was married 4 times. Dr. William Reaves mother
was named Emma. If you have any information or other sources that can lead
to the parents of Andrew Reaves, please send.


Thanks Pat
From: kem@csri.toronto.edu (Kem Luther)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Looking for Williamson genealogy
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:15:15 GMT
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto

I'm looking for a copy of a genealogy which is no longer "published."  The
author has told a contact of mine that no more copies are available from
him.  It is a genealogy of Alden Williamson, who lived in the Clinch River
Valley of Tazewell County, Virginia.  Anyone know where a copy of this can
be located?


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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:05:27 GMT
From:         VIVIEN HICK <HICKC89@IRLEARN.UCD.IE>
Subject: Re: AFRO-AMERICAN ANCESTORS
              9 Apr 1992 16:37:11 EDT from <rformic@APG-9.APG.ARMY.MIL>

Thank you for the Hitchhiker's Guide. It arrived in Dublin safely.
Vivien Hick
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 14:16:00 MST
From:         MARLEYT@ARIZVMS.BITNET
Subject:      mclaughlin

Apologies to others.


Judy Mclaughlin
   I know you are out there. I have info on origin of Mclaughlin name.
If interested. Email me with Hard copy address<lost it> and i will get
it out to you.

marley@ccit.arizona.edu
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