HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: crussell@samson.hac.com (Chris Russell)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Schlage Electronic keys
Date: 10 Sep 92 01:20:33 GMT
Reply-To: crussell@samson.hac.com
Organization: Hughes Training Incorporated, WCO

I just got one of those credit-card style keys for the electronic doors
at work.  You don't have to insert the card into a slot or slide it
through a reader --- the key is recognized by simply placing it FLAT against
a detection plate.  (The plate can even be in the other side of a window.)

The system is made by Schlage Electronics.  Does anyone know how it works?


Chris.
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Tuesday, 8 Sep 1992 22:46:44 EDT
From: The Computer.... <MABBC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: what do you think??


Alright folks:

    It only took them 3000 years but i got the catalog.  Now I was
looking at the lockpicks and I see that they have an automatic gun
type one and the regular pick set.  I'm probably gonna play it safe
and get the pick set but tell me what do you think of the gun...
Also, they are selling a book on How to Pick.  Do you think that
it is a worthwhile venture??  Should I just get a cheap lock and
learn the old-fashioned way or buy the book (* it's only $16 *) ??
My thoughts on the book is that it had better be a damn good book.
But tell me what do you think about it??

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: cliftonr@netcom.com (Pope Clifton)
Subject: Re: Wasted
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 08:42:39 GMT
Organization: t.b, t.p.d, & a.d
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Raa Lopez (raa@guild.socal.com) wrote:
: Hahah ... the Only drug Mixing I did was Smoked some acid spiked Canabis 
  ... and it induced an exotic form of brain damage causing you to always
  type your entire post on one line!!!

  OK, I'm sorry.  But your editor is not doing auto line-wrap and neither 
 does my current newsreader.  A word to the wise should suffice.

  -- Clifton

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: procha@titan.ucc.umass.edu (PAUL ROCHA)
Subject: Re: UPDATE: F*** You All UPDATE!
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:39:44 GMT

bhoughto@sedona.intel.com (Blair P. Houghton) writes:
>
>>Aren't you over-reacting just a bit? The best way to handle such creeps
>>is to just ignore them.
>
>Both sort of creeps.
>
>				--Blair
>				  "Net.Commish"

I have to disagree with that... Creeps who just spout their ignorance are
best ignored, but creeps that insist on restricting OUR rights through their
ignorance can NOT be ignored.


A side note:

Someone mentioned that they thought that a person drove better under the
influence of a marijuana.  A) I find that VERY hard to believe.  B) Under
any circumstances, driving is a dangerous proposition.  Why make it hard on
yourself (and the people you are driving past) by dulling your senses?  It 
just doesn't make sense.

Later,

P. Rocha

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: eepee@polaris.utu.fi (Esa-Pekka P{lvim{ki)
Subject: Re: MAOI & shrooms
Organization: University of Turku, Finland
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 14:22:08 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.202318.7177@mits.mdata.fi> jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen) writes:
>haba@lesti.hut.fi (Harri "Haba" Suomalainen) writes:
>
>>The effective substance in the shrooms is psilocin. Psilocin, however, is
>>only mildly effective. Psilocin is metabolized into more potent psilocybin
>>Using MAOI would slow/stop metabolism of the effective substance. Therefore,
>>using MAOI would make psilocin *less* potent. 
>
>   You've got it a little backwards. Psilocybin is the phosphoric acid
>ester of psilocin (4-OH-N,N-dimethyltryptamine). Psilocybin is metabolized
>into psilocin. As far as I know, MAO has nothing to do with this.

Just to complicate things more, I would think, since psilocybin is a monoamine,
MAO inhibitor should slow down its metabolism.

/ep
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Subject: Re: Heroin
Organization: Western Washington University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 04:05:05 GMT

jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen) writes:

>n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:

>>	I've read it as being 1.5 to 2.5 as potent.   I believe the 
>>reason is that is crosses the bb barrier faster and more effeciently.

>   The standard dose of morphine i.v. is 10 mg. The same for heroin is 2 mg.
>I've read it being even ten times more potent. Don't believe everything
>you read.

	Ah, but are the standard doses regarded as _eqivalent_ doses?  
I suspect a patient accustomed to 10mg of morphine would _not_ be fully
satisfied with 2mg heroin.

In medical literature I have seen quite a variety of morphine eqivalence 
figures given for heroin over the years, but 2.5x seems to be the most 
common one.  I've seen as high as 3, and as low as 1.5, but I have _never_ 
in my memory seen 5 or 10 given.

	Jim Del Vecchio
From: jscsp@acad3.alaska.edu (PARKER CHRIS S)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Pot Talk
Summary: Some people are so bull-headed.
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:47:00 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska - Fairbanks
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAC


>Try this whilst having a toke: Hold your breath for at least 1/2 min
>(this may take some practise!). Let it out and just relax for a bit.
>Close your eyes and visualise a square. See if you can turn it into
>a triangle. Play with this shape for a while. Rotate it, translate it,
>etc. Open and shut your eyes quickly. You'll be left with a "burnt"
>image of the room in your head. Try manipulating this image as you did
>with the shape. This will take a bit of practise. Recall images from
>memory and play with these. After a while, your thoughts will connect with
>the images, and then your thoughts will free-form. Then just sit back and
>enjoy the ride (or have another toke...).

I tried to turn some friends on to trying this, but their immediate response
was "All you inhale gets absorbed after 15 seconds", they never though of the 
possibility that I wasn't talking about trying to squeeze more power out of
the punch. I personally think its the only way to fly the friendly skies, but
some people aren't into that sort of thing, I guess.

>Does anyone out there play around like this, or do most people veg out?

Its a waste to veg out, (IMHO) whats the fun of lying there like a wet noodle?
I mean, if all you do is veg out, why even take a toke? If I was just looking 
to veg out, I'd get some valium. 

>Shckwish!
Shckwash!
From: tcederqu@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Trevor Cederquist)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Inderal + ....
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:53:25 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego


	I've been wondering why one would use propranolol (Inderal)
with indole or mescaline-related hallucinogens.  Any answers?

	If anyone has _Pihkal_ part one, can he or she do a    
"propranolol" or "Inderal" search.  I think the reference is in
one of the "Ann" segments. 


	Thanks.


Trevor Cederquist
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: bruceg@Cadence.COM (Bruce Gustifson)
Subject: Datura spp.
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:37:10 GMT

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Datura spp.
Distribution: world
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
  Does anyone have any data on the effects of Datura (a plant). Also,
is this drug illegal to ingest or posess (obviously, it is illegal
to be intoxicated outside). One other thing, has anyone ever tried
it, and if so, what was it like? How did you use it? I happen to
know where there is a ton of this stuff.
				-bruceg-


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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: noah@Cadence.COM (Noah Ruiz)
Subject: Re: I was wondering if anyone here knows of any virtual reality group
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:51:15 GMT

Huh? Reminds me of "LAWNMOWER MAN" which is an excellent movie!!!

noah
From: accom@terapin.com (Andrew Ross)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: chrysalis by Peter Reich
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:51:46 PST
Organization: BBS

Um... I wonder if any of you can tell me about a little thingy in the first
issue of Mondo 2000 about the little machine that they talked about (brain
enhancement) called the God Box... Just wondering... L8r!
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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.society.civil-liberty,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: JDs (was Re: Clinton in _Rolling Stone_ ...)
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:44:12 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA

frazier@kona.cs.ucla.edu (Gregory Frazier) writes:
: bill nelson (billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com) wrote:
: : frazier@kona.cs.ucla.edu (Gregory Frazier) writes:
: : : Trust an Angelino - they do have automatic weapons.  So does
: : : everybody else around here; show up on New Years, when everybody
: : : gives their arsenal some celebratory exercise...
: : 
: : OK - maybe I should have been clearer. Please define an automatic weapon.
: 
: One that goes rat-a-tat-tat much quicker than I think they
: can move their trigger fingers.

Good, at least you got that right. Now, the only thing to do is show that
is what they actually had, rather than just being called that in the "news" 
or by the police.

The point is, it is relatively easy to get a semi-automatic weapon. Automatic
weapons are far harder to obtain - I suspect many of them are stolen from
military armories. Also, you can fire a semi-automatic almost as fast as an
automatic weapon - it is just tiring on the finger.

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Subject: Re: MAOI & shrooms
Organization: Microdata International Telecomm Service, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:41:30 GMT

eepee@polaris.utu.fi (Esa-Pekka P{lvim{ki) writes:

>Just to complicate things more, I would think, since psilocybin is a monoamine>MAO inhibitor should slow down its metabolism.

   That's exactly where this thread started from... What I'm wondering is that
do 'shrooms or fungi in general contain some nasty monoamines, e.g. tyramine.
-- 
Jani Heinonen                    "Tonight when I chase the dragon,
jah@mits.mdata.fi                 The water may turn to cherry wine
                                  And the silver will turn to gold
                                  Time out of mind."
From: goddard@cae.wisc.edu (Goddard Denis)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: When is Madison's Harvest Fest???
Date: 6 Sep 92 15:35:20 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering


    Can someone please email or post the date of this year's
great midwest harvest festival in Madison? I know it's usually 
the last weekend in September... What date is the march on the
capitol?

  THANKS!!!!

goddard@cae.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.society.civil-liberty,talk.politics.drugs
From: tkirby@nyx.cs.du.edu (Thomas Kirby)
Subject: Re: "War Against Drugs a Failure"
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 07:01:42 GMT

wdstarr@athena.mit.edu (William December Starr) writes:


>In article <v7vn2mn.feustel@netcom.com>, 
>feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel) said:

>> After hostilities cease we can release all of the prisoners that we
>> have taken during the war.

>Can we also have Nuremburg-type war crimes trials in which the
>soldiers and politicians who executed the atrocities of the war are
>tried for crimes against humanity?  Please?

>-- William December Starr <wdstarr@athena.mit.edu>

>                   (No, I'm _not_ joking.  Indulging in wishful
>                          thinking, perhaps, but not joking...)

     Oh, yes, please!  There have been SO many crimes committed against
the citizens of this country and other countries by the drug Gestapo.
 
     Wasn't chemical warfare made illegal by the Geneva Convention?  Then
what was this paraquat spraying of Mexican crops in the late 1970s?
 
     The Constitution forbids the seizure of property without due process
of the law.  Was that amendment repealed when they passed the forfeiture
laws?  If so, why did no one tell me?
 
     Blanket searches are also illegal.  Why is more energy now given to
random stop and searches on the highways now than is given to finding
homes for the homeless?
 
     Involvement with any type of Prohibition makes crooks out of the law
enforcement personnel.  I think George Bush knows this.
 
     When an open, democratic society becomes corrupted enough, and the
so-called preservers of democracy become corrupt, expect people to come
out selling a more repressive form of government, e.g. four more years of
Bush.



Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jorngh@dhhalden.no (JORN GUNNAR HALONEN)
Subject: Sleepless nights ...
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:36:37 GMT


I recently saw a movie called 'Monkey Shines' by George A.Romero
In one of the scenes a doctor injected himself with a drug (?)
to keep himself awake over the night. (he had to, since he had
already been awake several nights)

Any ideas what he might have injected himself with ?

Just curious ...
From: mccalld@vax.sonoma.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: War on Drugs
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:07:06 GMT
Organization: Sonoma State University

I know this person, who, being born with chronic asthma and a wide array
of allergies, is now 37 years old and has been on "DRUGS" of every sort
for most of his life. Now it is true that the wrong drugs in the wrong
hands can create some serious and life threatening consequences which
may or may not involve some inocent non-participant, but this person has
made a conscious effort to find the right 'DRUG' and or combination of
'DRUGS' to first sustain a reasonably normal life style, and second to
be able to enjoy the little things you and I take for granted.........
Now the drugs which he gets are 1/2 prescribed by physicans and 1/2
found on the underground market....His explaination is that the legal
drugs do an adaquate job of maintaining his health, however there are
some side affects which are undesirable and sometimes greatly interfere
with his social life, work, and etc...so he has had to experiment and
explore the illegal side of the substance-extraordinairium to find the
desired end result which makes his life worth living to him.........
This individual has a good job, is married, has a few children, a house,
and appears to be very well adjusted to our society at large.........
but the fact remains, that when there are people in the world who are
suffering even to the slightest degree, and they take it upon themselves
to better their immediate conditions, and if it happens to be with drugs,
then you have extablished a valid demand and such a demand should be
fulfilled and enjoyed......so I tell you, his perspective, the war
on drugs must fail if he is to live his life in a mannor of his free
chosing.......
eom
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, English, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: Sun,  6 Sep 1992 01:39:19 -0400 
From: "David F. McWade" <dm3o+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Stupid question about LSD


I am told that LSD will "go bad" after a certain period of time, unless
it is frozen, in which case it will keep for months.  Can anyone
explain/confirm/refute the above assertion?

I would also like a copy of the LSD FAQ so please forward that as well
as any response to this to:

dm3o@andrew.cmu.edu,

as I don't read this list regularly.

Thank you,

David McWade

Your eyes are weary from staring at the CRT for so long.  You feel
sleepy.  Notice how restful it is to watch the cursor blink.  Close your
eyes.  The opinions stated above are yours.  You can't imagine why you
ever felt otherwise.
From: voss@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (stephen voss)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Hmmmm...
Date: 13 Sep 92 18:47:42 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

I know this has nothing to do with the topic but speaking of draft 
dodgers where was Ronald Reagan during world war ii
From: Craig_Code@mindlink.bc.ca (Craig Code)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Dutch Hydroponics
Date: 7 Sep 92 01:35:28 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

On the news the other day I caught the tail-end of a report on activities in
Holland involving hydroponically grown mj. We all know the Dutch are more
open-minded in regard to "soft" drugs, yet the twist on this particular story
is that commercial enterprises have been established to cultivate and offer for
sale genetically superior stock of these plants. They carefully tend their
gardens to develop, as the newscaster reports, "mj with twice the potency" of
that obtained throughout their country, but that they also select the choicest
of their plants and propagate them to obtain seeds which they then offer for
resale. Although I did not catch the whole report, it seemed odd that the
government over there would take _that_ casual an attitude to people doing this
locally, or perhaps exporting internationally. I regret not having heard the
whole report, and wonder if anyone knows the correct context of such a report.

Thanks.
From: v085r6qm@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Erin D Markle)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: mushroom cultivation
Date: 8 Sep 92 08:20:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


I know there are several books on the market (via U.S
Post Office) that explain rather well how to grow
mushrooms. Myself; I am broke and paranoid when it comes
to ordering any of these books. I know that careful 
attention should be paid to a sterile enviornment, and
have heard that rice can be used as a growth medium (white
rice, brown, long grained, short grained, converted, wild,
Uncle Ben's, Rice'A'Roni??????), or a very rich soil,
but other than these few facts -vague at best- I'm at a
complete loss.
     Does anyone have enough cultivation knowledge here
to help a guy that would really like to meet some of Terence
McKenna's friends? LSD is too uncomfortable for me....
Chapel Perilous????... 
     I know that it might be a rather involved post, but
I bet that oh so many people would be more than interested.
---- especially those, who like myself, are looking to go
organic.
     I've been happy as a lurker at this news group until
now. I would just like to say that it's shamefully wonderful
that there can be so much communication going on here.
                         It's very late and I've been talking
                                              out of my butt,

                                          Friend of Erin
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lamontg@carson.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: MDMA
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:29:39 GMT

lamontg@carson.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist) writes:

>u8951608@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:
>>I keep hearing rumours of such arcane syntheses. Lamont occasionally
>>trots out one involving minced liver or some such. I am highly
>>skeptical. I repeat my plea for a real reference to anything even
>>vaguely indicating that ammonia can aminate an allyl-benzene.
>
>Its the rabbit liver that aminates it.  And there really is a reference
>to the production of MMDA from mysristicin this way.  I have a photocopy
>of the article... if I remember it, I'll bring it tomorrow...
>
>[They don't mention yeild in this article, but I imagine its utterly
> worthless other than as a curiosity...]

I got it today actually...

Braun-U, Kalbhen-DA, "Evidence for the Biogenic Formation of Amphetamine
Derivatives from Components of Nutmeg".  Pharmacology 9:312-316(1973).

Based on the lengths they went to in order to identify it, I doubt they
got more than a few mg of MMDA out of it.  Looks more like a chemical
curiosity rather than a method of synthesis.  Unless of course you were
actually good enough to isolate and synthesize the enzyme in the liver
that did it -- mass production of that enzyme would be interesting...
From: liron@CCSG.TAU.AC.IL (Liron Kapara)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Psilocybe cubensis
Date: 15 Sep 92 05:28:08 GMT
X-Unparsable-Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 7:26:43 IST

Hello
I was wondering if there is anyone out there with a good soul :-) that
is willing to send me a small amount of Psilocybe cubensis spores.
my address is:
PO BOX 1525
Rehovot
ISRAEL 

If anyone agreed to send me some please let me know at liron@ccsg.tau.ac.il

Thanks!..
  -liron

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: tkirby@nyx.cs.du.edu (Thomas Kirby)
Subject: Re: "War Against Drugs a Failure"
Keywords: interesting facts
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 06:53:14 GMT


     The "War on Drugs" was contrived to be a failure.  Targetting
individual users and even people who were not actually suspected of a
crime (forfeiture laws) are just a couple of the present problems. 
Historically, for the first few years after the Harrison act was passed,
the federales attacked treatment clinics exclusively.  They came up with
some mumbo-jumbo to explain that attitude, but the fact remains that the
first application of the anti-drug statutes was to interdict treatment for
people addicted to cocaine and opiates.
 
     This is a catch-22 that seems to only be resolvable by the ones with
the biggest guns.  They can plead incompetence and ignorance and be
believed, then in the next speech they (government forces) say they are
competent to decide how everyone must live their lives, and say they are
more competent than the doctors to treat illness.  If the truth comes in
conflict with this, the government can just point guns and either scare
away or blow away the people who speak the truth.
From: blosser_cy@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: STOP THIS THREAD!!! (re: Fuck You All)
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:38:50 GMT
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC

The best and most approprate way to deal with this kind of bullshit is to
ignore it...

As for Hugo, god...I hope somebody only messed with his terminal while he
left it unattended.

You'd think Darwin's process of Natural Selection would have rid humanity
of homo-sapiens THIS fucking stupid.

If you want to flame him, do so privately. Else let's return to topics of
a more relevant nature to this newsgroup.

Thank you,

Christopher
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