From: matmcinn@nuscc.nus.sg (MAWENZI lieutenant of Kibo)
Subject: Re: zadachka pro sifilitika
Organization: National University of Singapore
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 09:02:22 GMT

zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) writes:
: In article <C0CK4A.J72@max.physics.sunysb.edu>
: LANDSBERG@sbhep2.phy.sunysb.edu (Greg Landsberg) writes:
: 
: >In <1993Jan3.134333.18958@husc3.harvard.edu> 
: >zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu writes:
: 
: >[The correct solution of the problem posted by Yuri Smirnov omitted]
: 
: YS:
: >> >The first correct answerer will be awarded 10-ruble premia ( a wonderful coin ). 
: 
: MZ:
: >> Send my reward to 872 Mass Ave, #707, Cambridge, MA 02139.
: >> 
: >> I would like to see references to the generalized version of this problem.
: 
: GL:
: >It's  very  simple. The  generalized  problem  in which  1 guy  is going to
: >satisfy 2n-1 gals, providing each of these 2n persons are infected with the
: >different  venerial  diseases,  could be  solved by   generalization of the
: >method described in your posting. It  is necessary and sufficient to have n
: >condoms for this.
: >
: >(1) Wear n   condoms while fucking #1
: >(2) Wear n-1 condoms while fucking #2
: >...
: >(n) Wear 1   condom  while fucking #n
: >(n+1)..(2n-1)  without removing the  last condom put  consecutively each of
: >the used condoms, inside out, on the  top of the last one and fuck #n+1  ..
: >2n-1. After each fuck the topmost condom could be removed, if desired -:).
: >
: >It's  obvious that the  number n of  condoms is  really  MINIMAL, because n
: >condoms have  exactly 2n  sides, which is  the necessary  condition to deal
: >with 2n different diseases without transmission of any of them.
: >
: >Because you was the first to post  the answer to the n=2 case, I decided to
: >award you (in addition to the coin, promised by the original poster) with 2
: >(two)  BRAND NEW  condoms. I  don't  include 3 STD  gals, just  because the
: >Cambridge, MA is overstacked with them.
: >
: >And because you were interested in the generalized version of this problem,
: >you are also  eligible to get the  BONUS AWARD, which  is n=3 (three) extra
: >condoms.  However,  because you  didn't solve the  problem  for the general
: >case, these extra condoms are ALMOST NEW (used only once). Original factory
: >package as well as manuals available on request.
: >
: >I'll ship BOTH  the main and the  bonus awards via  first class mail to the
: >Massachussets    address  above  on  your  first  request.  The  awards are
: >non-returnable and could be transferred to the other person only as a gift. 
: >
: >For  those of  you  deep in   mathematics  I'd like  to  suggest  even more
: >generalized  version of the problem  in which m guys  with m' different STD
: >are going  to satisfy n  gals with  n' different  STD. The  total number of
: >different STDs is k <= m'+n'. The question is how many condoms they need to
: >mutually  satisfy  themselves. If  anybody think  that this  is not general
: >enough, I  challenge  him/her to  solve this  problem in the  N-dimensional
: >space where  each condom  has L  different sides.  (Hint: for  Moebius-type
: >condoms  /L=1/ the  problem  could be  solved only  for m'=m,  n'=n, k=1 or
: >m'=n'=k=0. The solution is 1 condom :-) ).
: 
: As a general rule, you may assume that if you can solve the problem,
: it is not general enough.  Your proposed generalization is trivial;
: most people familiar with the combinatorial issues involved would
: immediately recognize your last statement of the problem as the first
: meaningful generalization.  As of a coupler of years ago, the case of
:                                    ^^^^^^^^^                           
  L=2 was not solved in full generality.  But to get a truly universally
: applicable situation, consider a generalization to R different
: genders.
: 
: >> cordially,
: >> mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu
: >
: >Cordially,
: >
: >Greg Landsberg@sbhep2.phy.sunysb.edu
: 
: cordially,
: mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu
: "Le cul des femmes est monotone comme l'esprit des hommes."
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