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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 10:05:22 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: confessions
              3 Sep 1992 10:45:35 EDT from <ghanley@DG-WEBO.WEBO.DG.COM>

On Thu, 3 Sep 1992 10:45:35 EDT Gary Hanley said:
>Lenny remarks:
>
>>Not trying to start trouble but i confess IMHO Stairway To Heaven is
>>one of the most over rated tunes in the history of R&R and
>>Jimmy Page is one of the most over rated Guitarist. Excellent producer/
>>arranger though.
>
>	Well Lenny, you may not be trying to start trouble, but I
>can't think of a better way to than to take a shot at a popular
>band/guitarist.

let me rephrase that i think Led Zep is incredible and Stairway to Heaven
is by far one of the best R&R songs ever and J. Page is one of the best
guitarist i've ever heard BTW could we add a Ray to that Lenny (Lenny Ray)
also we all took shots at Billy Ray and several others and you kept quite
what's the deal are you a fan of Page and the plagerizers (just kidding)
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:30:47 CDT
From:         Debbie Scheibal <DPDS@SIUEMUS.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Another gem from the past...

> of Billy Rae Cyrus for a moment and get to Garth Brooks who is retiring so he
> can rase a family.  So here's your quarter. Call someone who cares punk.
>
> Eddie Armstrong (aisarmstrong%ist%vmi@ist.vmi.edu)

Garth retiring to raise a family?  Hadn't heard that one.
What source did you get your info from?

Debbie
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:48:00 LCL
From:         Kevin Sonney <KEVIN.DAVINCI@MHS.UNC.EDU>
Subject:      To those who can access 'news'...
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Marco -

Having  had much  experience  (now, anyway)  on  List Servers,  I
noticed these newsgroups. How DOES one subscribe to them?

-Kevin
 <<Mostly inexperienced in the FTP/InterNet world, but hanging in
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:52:54 CDT
From:         "The Truth (some assembly required)" <T9AA@SDSUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Fretless Bass Answer

>I have some queries to throw out amongst the upper eschelon
>of the bass playing community.

>How many guitar/bass companies make fretless basses?
>Who makes really good fretless basses at an affordable price?
>Does the body wood really matter that much, in comparison to the
>  material the neck is made from?
>Which sounds better: a wood neck or a graphite neck?
>  (better may be to vague--how do the sounds compare?
>Are there any inexpensive basses out there that have the
>  characteristic Pedulla buzz bass sound?
>Pedullas have coated fingerboards--do other companies have a similar
>  process?
>Is it possible to get a buzz bass sound from a cheap fretless bass that
>  has its fingerboard finished with the same process and has Bartolini
>  pickups installed into it?
>Is ebony a better wood than rosewood?
>Why do some fretless basses use maple fingerboards?

Well, I only say "fretless bass answer" in the subject line. I don't
know. I cannot answer this one.

>If I had the money,I would buy a Pedulla, but they are REALLY expensive
>(almost two thousand sockaroonis for the one I want)
>so I was thinking maybe I could buy a cheaper bass(a Fender PJ or a JJ) and
>take it to a guitar repair shop and have them take the frets out,put on
>a resincote fingerboard, put in some EMGs,Bartolinis or some other actives
>and have a reasonable facsimilie.

I know they make fretless replacement necks for bass. I know this
because I saw them in the back of Guitar for the Practicing Musician
the last time I picked one up (I can't guess how many years it has
been since then, but I think David Lee Roth was still playing with
Van Halen), and I think they would be still available. I don't know.

>What do you think? Ask your friends who play fretless and get their opinion.
>I really appreciate any help on this subject.

>Mike Masuda

>BTW:Who is the fretless bass player for Kate Bush on "Hounds of Love" album?
>    What bass does he/she use?

Depends on the song.
Running up that Hill:          Del Palmer
Hounds of Love:                No Bassist. Cello by Johnathan Williams
The Big Sky:                   Youth (swear to Jah)
Mother Stands for Comfort:     Eberhard Weber
Cloudbusting:                  No Bass
And Dream of Sheep:            No Bass
Under Ice:                     Ditto
Waking the Witch:              Del Palmer on "Fairlight Bass"
Watching You Without Me:       Danny Thomas on Double Bass
Jig of Life:                   Del Palmer
Hello Earth:                   Eberhard Weber
The Morning Fog:               Del Palmer

Dave
t9aa@sdsumus.bitnet
It doesn't hurt me
Do you want to feel how it feels
Do you want to hear 'bout the deal that I'm making
You, you and me
          -Kate Bush, "Running up that Hill (A Deal With God)"
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:42:58 EDT
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Favorite guitar solos, first pass

On Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:44:38 EDT Michael H. Bloom said:
>
>John Cippolina throughout Quicksilver Messenger Service's _Happy Trails_
>   The Rhino two-CD Quicksilver compilation contains almost every important
>   lick. If only they didn't edit "Who Do You Love"...
>
Knowing this (thanx!), I will definitely *not* buy the compilation.

And, I will add Clapton on, say, "Crossroads" or "Sea of Joy"; Duane & Dickie
on the studio "Elizabeth Reed" or "Dreams"; Renbourn on--well, on anything,
actually; and a one-time college friend of mine my freshman year who laid down
some amazing licks one afternoon in my dorm room.  Steve Soar, where are you
now?
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:23:00 CST
From:         WILLIACG@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU
Subject:      Re: Rap

I AGREE JEFF,
I think Miles would have really jammed in the field of rap.
C.G.W-J.
EAST BOOGIE, IL.
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:20:32 CDT
From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Re: Confessions

Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>

>Upon reflection the above confession must be RULED OUT: it's not
>quite... shlock (it's not shock either--we know you too well) (try for mock)
>(or crock)

Nonononono.  That won't do at all.  C'mon ALLMUSICi, let's put some
peer.pressure on Sonia.  Confess, Sonia!  We want all the details!
Confess!

Mine is post-Smiley Smile Beach Boys.  These are vile records, but
I can't help it.  Also, the Association, the Cyrcle (you know,
"Red Rubber Ball"), the Shangri-Las*, the Bangles (blush).

*It's fashionable to "like" the Shangri-Las in the sense that you
get a big campy grin when you hear "The Leader of the Pack".
I, on the other hand, cry.

God! I've got no taste AT ALL!

Bob
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 08:34:40 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: are you Cyrus?

On Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:18:00 EDT EdD tHe MaDd said:
>Ruxpin is gone
>  I must sadly say
>And no plebes about
>  to slam today...
>Exept this guy who
>  who loves Billy Ray...
>                           is he gay?
>
Why doesn't everyone lay off the Billy Ray Cyrus fan there is music for everyon
e and he chooses to like that, and everyone knocking his musical taste is
getting old, he may not like miles or jimi but he's not knocking them all the
time......L.W.
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 10:08:00 CDT
From:         S_YECK@TWU.BITNET
Subject:      RE: KEATS

For Harry--

I'll check into my files and see what this business is.  It looks interesting
and maybe-just maybe-I can get you a copy through our business!! (CD's Plus).

Check ya later.  Call us at (817) 565-0733 and we'll see if we've got an answer
for you!!

Sincerely,
 _
Meshel
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:25:00 CDT
From:         S_YECK@TWU.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Underground/Progressive Music

For some unknown reason, this "type" of music reminds me of the group Men At
Work. (maybe that's because of their song "The Land Down Under" (or is that Men
Without Hats?!).  Well, you can tell I certianly don't know anything!!!!!
Just had to throw my little bit in here too!

Toodles,
 _
Meshel
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:17:53 MET
From:         Stas Philippe <philstas@VUB.AC.BE>
Subject:      Prince and WB

Oops,

how can it be Warner Brothers have enough money to pay 100 million
for a 6 record contract with Nelson Prince.

Is this because amrica is cutting down it's defence funds?


Johor

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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:11:00 EDT
From:         "alt.wasted.time" <TIFFANYDE@URVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Guitar solos

Nice to see this list quite as ever.

>       Now, I like a lot of guitar players, and a lot of different
>solos. But anyone who knows me knows I'm heavily biased toward
>Steve Howe. So, of course my favorite guitar solo is going to be something
>by him! :)

Howe rules, as Gary and I know.  I tend to like fairly simple guitar solos,
such as his "Double Rondo" where he's backed up by an entire orchestra.  Good
stuff from _The Steve Howe Album_ jap. import.

>But I also like some of the
>licks from Al Dimeola

Al's not bad, although a bit flashy.

Check out some of that Tangerine Dream album you just bought, Gary.  Great
stuff.  From Dawn... has some good simple guitar licks.

later days and sunny rays,
                          D.T>
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All the music I listen to is hip, ESPECIALLY the Thompson Twins and Flock of
Seagulls......   no confessions here.
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:04:00 CST
From:         WILLIACG@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU
Subject:      Re: ALLMUSIC confessional: secret loves and hidden desires

I do enjoy lite fm music after a long day of hip-hop.
I also listen to classical music on Sunday's. My husband hates
it, but it get's him out the house. So I guess it has two
motives.


Crystal Williams-Jackson
East St. Louis, IL.
"The real home of Miles Davis."
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 12:00:39 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      EXTREME
X-To:         allmusic@american.edu

I heard a cut from Extreme's soon-to-be-released "Three Sides to Every
Story"--I had never heard of them before (like so much else): I liked it, maybe
not enough to buy but enough to be curious about who they are... very
inventive; fun guitar work... Can anybody fill me in on the details?

I also have been listening to the latest Black Crowes and Metallica albums.
(I like them) Does this mean something (bad)?

Sonia
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:00:36 CDT
From:         "Renato" <U33963@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Yesterday's Ferlinghettinet
              1 Sep 1992 08:54:35 EDT from <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>

On Tue, 1 Sep 1992 08:54:35 EDT Sonia Kovitz said:
>Dark Side Where the Pyramid Meets the Eye
>Surprise Your Pig Frizzle Fry
>Synchronicity Song Remains the Same
>The Planets Blood Sugar Sex Magik
>The Ring Nothing's Shocking Mr. Bungle
>Color Me Baddmotor Finger
>Rage for Order Burning from the Inside
>Floodland Firehouse Hot Rocks
>And Justice For All Thrill Kill Kult Sexplosion
>Electric Ladyland Brandenbergs James Brown is Dead
>White Sport Coat and Pink
>Crustacean Butthole Surfers
>
>
>"That's the way it was, August 31, 1992"
>
>Sonia

Steak Queen: Some primo matches on this list. Kinda reminds me when we played s
omething called the surrealistic game. Quite simple: write a question on a pape
r, fold it over; then ask the next person to write an answer (watch out, no fai
r cheating!) The possibilities are endless and quite fun. You can do it to vi
rtually any set of materials: e.g. string together the senders of your mail (Ro
ck the Vote New El Salvador Today Rim Pacific Wear); match the names of movie h
ouses to the film they're showing or else the films themselves (Husbands and Wi
ves The Thin Blue Line); and so on.

A quick note on Roky Erickson.  When the legendary 13th Floor Elevator was aske
d was psychedelic music was, he replied "Don't you know man? That's where the p
yramid meets the eye!" Can't get much deeper than this.  If you check out the a
rt work on the Elevators' first album you'll understand immediately what he mea
nt.

Good work, queen.

Renato
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 08:16:25 EDT
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: ALLMUSIC confessional: secret loves and hidden desires

On Wed, 2 Sep 1992 09:12:18 CDT Renato Barahona said:
>s a state of mind: Do you have hidden tastes that you don't own up because you'
>re afraid that they'll be considered schlocky, schmaltzy, corny, campy, or down
>right unhip? Do you swoon to the Tijuana Brass. . .

Well, I used to love Sergio Mendes, the Baja Marimba band, et al, but maybe
they don't count, as they eventually led me into Jobim, Bonfa, Byrd, & other
non-schlocky persons. . . . :-)
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 11:53:59 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      4track advice

Someone just offered me a fostex x30 4 track for 225.00 in the box
with warranty what they go for new is this a good price is it a good
one
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1992 21:54:57 MDT
From:         weasels ripped my dress <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      RE: Urban Ambience Blooms Again
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>Lil Miss Missteak Queen reviews FLOW:
>
>Taking our time, everything's cool up here on the roof
>just be careful, wait
>omigod it's the
>MONSTER FROM THE ID
>no it isn't
>yes it IS
>nah it's just some weird party

Gargra Varr the Wench, Custodian of the Total Perspective Vortex
reviews FLOW:

Hurry up, dammit, things are sizzling down in the basement
don't worry, quick!
alright! isn't that the
one-eyed trouser snake?
yes it is
NOT!!
like sure... it's a generic wake

>the little tin men are getting DOWN
>oh god something is crawling up from the cellar
>the dog men are...
>did you hear that?
>that was a REDUNDANT RIFF
>nah that was Brando's snakeskin jacket in slo-mo

the giant plastic blow up dolls are getting bigger
eee haw something white is dripping off the ceiling
the cat women are not...
shit, I heard that you asshole
that was a SINGULAR shot
yes, Brando's son shot his sister's lover

>watch it, there's something dripping
>how'd we end up in the jungle?
>nobody gets out of here alive
>giant chicken heads sucked into a drain
>oop one got caught

hurry, here's some suction
we followed the map to Saskatchewan
everyone cums alive
little penis heads squirting skyward
one by one they were freed

>oh no we're going down too
>fields of crinkling wet aluminum dollar bills
>messages sent by tiny mice from the Planet Droid (1955)
>1962 nightclub afterhours extraterrestrial cricket
>has fallen in pool of spilled beer under the bar

screams of glee as we take off
rivers of smooth golden showers
the massive rats in the White House (1992) have their answering machines on
2010 country pub daytime earthy baseball players
have risen in dust from fields of cocaine

>hulking boogie man plods heavily up the Potemkin steps
>a small slippery creature follows him and mews for a drink
>evil bugs at a disco dance
>they get inspired, change from B&W to color

wee little elf walks lightly under a ladder
he chases a huge crusty human and barks for a green beer
compassionate lions leave the square dance
they became bored watching Billy Rae change from C&W to crap

>girls in off-the-shoulder ruffles dip and sway in
>fibrillating electric breezes
>children's wooden ABC blocks bouncing through the Paris sewers
>the radio is dimly heard through the thick sweating walls
>yow a fight in Apt. 2C

buck naked wrestlers grunt and body slam
sentient natural flatulence
the politically correct in front of PC's have net.sex through Metallica strands
while the CD player blasts through paper thin walls
oh goodie, we can listen to the couple upstairs fucking...

------------------

Gee, that was fun... this exercise stresses the all encompassing nature of Urban
Ambience's music... sort of like an audio black hole.

- Carol and her plaything, Gargra...
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:53:00 PDT
From:         Christopher Harry <IZZYFC1@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Rap

> I DO understand that you don't like R&B because it doesn't appeal to your
> lifestyle--but to say the music doesn't have anything to say is WAY off-base.

       I should have qualified it- doesn't have anything to say to ME. I am
sorry if I offended anybody. :=(

> Ralph Tresvant sings about relationships (something we blacks do have) and
> other R&B artists sing about a wide variety of life experiences.  True, there
> are artists in any genre that may seem incomprehensible to each of us, but
> music is PERSONAL, and each of us likes what we like for our own special

         I agree. Again, I was givving My Opinion (oops, giving) about Rap
and the genres closely related to it. It was not intended to be a personal
attack on someone's own likes or dislikes, but rather a commentary on my
own. Sorry if it came out otherwise.

                                  Chris
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 10:09:41 PDT
From:         Mike <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Primus (was re: Re: other types of music)
              1 Sep 1992 09:22:35 CDT from
              <Lee=Jenkins%Factory=Sup%Mfg=Hou@BANGATE.COMPAQ.COM>

What is Primus like?

Well, it's a three piece band like Rush, but a lot funkier.
The bassist Les Claypool makes it a point to go out of his way to
play his fretless bass like no one else.
If you could imagine Rush playing REALLY groovin stuff (in 4/4)
with a quirky voice (as opposed to a Geddy-type vox)
and a lurching-lopping feel, you have Primus.
Claypool was written up recently in Bass Player Mag as the best
bass player (at least, the most innovative) for 1992.
"Frizzle Fry" is a good first album.
"Sailing the Seas of Cheese" is a good second studio album with a
  killer track, "Jerry Was a Race Car Driver".
"Suck on This!" is a live album (I don't own it).
"Miscellaneous Debris" is a 4 track EP whick includes
  covers of Peter Gabriel's "Intruder", and Pink Floyd's "Have a Cigar".

pretty weird stuff, but I happen to like weird.

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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:58:07 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Confessions
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              scared to reveal my identity" at Sep 3, 92 9:37 am

>
> the Color Me Badd confession didn't come from Carol. . .
> although I felt like I was transformed into a "weasles ripped my dress"
> kind of aura (appropriate Twilight Zone music inserted here)
>
Right you are, you're NOT Carol--once I realized the lewd mystery person was on
Eastern Daylight Time I knew there was another closet weasel...
I think I know who you are but I won't tell.

I think it is quite snooty of the bloom-man NOT to admit to any secret shlocky
tastes... what do we have to do to force this information out of him?  send a
troupie of groupies to the next Urban Ambience Live at Madison Square Garden
and have them rip off his wig?

Rick is probably desperately searching in the Reference Librarian's Astoot
Guide to Poshlust in the Arts (check out THAT word, folks--I guarantee you it's
real)

Leonard, are you SO PURE BLOOZ that you have no confessions to make?  We're
waiting....

Sonia Uberdorfmeistress of Poshlust

P.S. Renato--you gave EXAMPLES but we haven't had YOUR confession yet.  Don't
think you would get away with that.
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 08:49:36 PDT
From:         Mike Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Tim Buckley vs Laurie Freelove

Marco,

If your ear is trained more, maybe you can decipher "Achilles Last Stand"
for me ;)

from Stairway to Heaven: "And if you whistlin at the bar, the Jew will
   bother you a lot."
from Bad Moon Rising:  "There's the bathroom on the right."
from I am the Walrus: "I would like to cunnerd me to Edmund Dunnuk Naught."

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