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From: paul@cs.su.oz.au (Paul Craig Tyler)
Subject: Re: Cost of Living in Australia??
Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 06:53:28 GMT

In article <13AUG199201042019@erich.triumf.ca> ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid) writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.014455.14561@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>, escmar@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Mar Siew Cheong) writes...
>>I'm curious after looking thru' the costs comparison to find 
>>that a month's bus pass is cheaper in Finland than in Oz, given
>>the higher fares for a trip.     
>> 
>>Is it due to less Finns using the bus system?  
>	It's probably due to subsidies, to encourage people to use public
>transport.  When I was in Zurich, a single fare was SFr2 while a month's pass
>was SFr45.  That was three years ago; a single is now 2.40 and I suspect that
>the Regenbogenkarte is now 50 or 55.

Although subsidies would be a significant factor, I suspect that distance
would also be another.  The fare quoted ($60 per month) would be for travel a
reasononable way out of the city centre, about 10 k.m.  If you travel by
train, this fare will get you about 20 k.m. from the city.

The fare structure for busses is a zone system (like the London tube) and if
you restrict your travel to within the city centre, it will be significantly
cheaper than $60 per month.

--
Paul Tyler       paul@cs.su.oz.au
University of Sydney, Australia
From: merlin@neuro.usc.edu (merlin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: P Halasz or P Martin @ Univ New South Wales Sydney AU
Date: 13 Aug 1992 18:22:33 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: neuro.usc.edu

Could some provide an email, telephone. or smail address for these researchers?

We are very interested in their Magellan image analysis software.

Thanks, AJ

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From: robrod@buengf.bu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: life in aus
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:24:50 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: robrod@buengf.bu.edu

I am interested in finding out what is the inter-racial social standings in
Australia: particularly Sydney/Camberra/Melbourne.  What is the Australians
feelings towards Asians, Blacks, Americans, etc.  

Also, I would like to know if Australia has good relations with its
neighboring countries:  China, Japan, Taiwan, Indonesia, etc.

Thanks.

send comments to:  robrod@csa.bu.edu
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From: woodhams@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Michael Woodhams)
Subject: Re: How did Australia and New Zealand Decimalise?
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University Observatory
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:48:14 GMT

In article <BspsDD.GoD@newcastle.ac.uk> w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk writes:
>    In Australia and New Zealand was decimalisation done by messing
>about with the value of the currency unit (eg the pound) or with the
>value of the sub-units (eg the penny).  In other words did they do it
>by letting one cent = one penny 
>       or  one dollar = 1 pound.

In fact, 1 shilling=10 cents was used. (1 shilling = 12 pennies = 1/20th
of a pound = 1/21 guinea = 1/5 crown = 48 farthings. If this is
confusing to any Americans, look who's still using 63360 inches to the
mile.) 

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From: ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid)
Subject: Re: Cost of Living in Australia??
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 08:04:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.014455.14561@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>, escmar@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Mar Siew Cheong) writes...
>I'm curious after looking thru' the costs comparison to find 
>that a month's bus pass is cheaper in Finland than in Oz, given
>the higher fares for a trip.     
> 
>Is it due to less Finns using the bus system?  
	It's probably due to subsidies, to encourage people to use public
transport.  When I was in Zurich, a single fare was SFr2 while a month's pass
was SFr45.  That was three years ago; a single is now 2.40 and I suspect that
the Regenbogenkarte is now 50 or 55.

	BTW, can anyone tell me why the Aussie buck has dropped this week?
Combined with the drop in the $US, it's now down to SFr0.95 compared to 1.17
a short while ago.

Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.     			ivan@cvax.psi.ch
From: moorerr@msu.edu (richard r. moore)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Cordless phone in Oz
Date: 14 Aug 92 23:40:39 GMT
Organization: Computer laboratory, michigan state university

>Your biggest problem will be getting it through Australian customs!
>If my memory serves me correct, these devices are prohibited imports.
>On the customs declaration you sign apon entering, there is specific
>mention of cordless telephones (and cell-phones I think).

>-- 
>Michael Katzmann          >     Broadcast Sports Technology Inc.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~         <      Crofton, Maryland. U.S.A
>Amateur Radio Stations:   >
>NV3Z / VK2BEA / G4NYV    <      opel!vk2bea!michael@uunet.uu.net

Does this imply that a notebook micro with an internal modem would be 
stopped by customs?  If not, (or rather if it was successfully brought into 
the conuntry) would it be possible to use the modem?
From: little@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Littlejohn Tim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Oznews, 8th of August, 1992.
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:41:05 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

In article <11AUG92.20272940@skyfox.usask.ca> devonr@skyfox.usask.ca writes:
>----------
>
>"Union fund to fight Libs"- Victoria's ,main public sector union yesterday
>set up a $500,000 fighting fund to finance militant action against an
>administration run by the Leader of the Opposition, Mr Kennett, having
>virtually written off any chance of the Kirner Government being re-elected.
>  The vice-president of the 34,000-member State Public Service Federation,
>Mr Bill Deller will urge members to support selected Independents against
>Liberal candidates in the October poll...
                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^

Does this mean that there will be a Victorian state election in October?
If so, does anyone have any information as to how us overseas people can     
vote in it?

Thanks,

Tim

 
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From: sp@mirabeau.osf.fr (Simon Patience)
Subject: Re: Manifesto: New Hope for Unitied Britonnic Nations (DSY)
Reply-To: sp@mirabeau.osf.fr (Simon Patience)
Organization: OSF Research Institute
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 05:30:43 GMT

In article <RN.4129@mts.ucs.UAlberta.CA>, userLIBE@mts.ucs.UAlberta.CA
(unknown) writes:
>   We are common people under the crown of her majesty Queen 
>   Elizabeth II.  As we venture into the 1990's, I propose we
>   venture together as one nation equally represented in government
>   instead on 20 nations split apart.  I present to you my manifesto
>   for a unified country and hope that this would be objectively 
>   debated and that any other pertinently related manifesto will
>   also find its way to the newsgroups.
>  
>   A Hope for a Better Future United Together
.....
>    That is all at this time.  IT is time to consider this seriously
>    and look at its merit.  So UK  reject Maastricht, Canada  reject
>    the Rebluican US ideology of FTA and NAFTA, let us as Britonnic 
>    countries unite at this time.  Thank you for your time
>  
>    Dave Shariff Yadallee 

This man is clearly off his trolley, but from his previous posts, I
guess you already knew that.

Simon.

  Simon Patience
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From: brad@winnie.cs.adelaide.edu.au (Brad Alexander )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Oznews, 8th of August, 1992.
Date: 19 Aug 92 00:20:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.164105.4349@cc.umontreal.ca>, little@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Littlejohn Tim) writes:
|> In article <11AUG92.20272940@skyfox.usask.ca> devonr@skyfox.usask.ca writes:
|> >----------
|> >
|> >"Union fund to fight Libs"- Victoria's ,main public sector union yesterday
|> >set up a $500,000 fighting fund to finance militant action against an
|> >administration run by the Leader of the Opposition, Mr Kennett, having
|> >virtually written off any chance of the Kirner Government being re-elected.
|> >  The vice-president of the 34,000-member State Public Service Federation,
|> >Mr Bill Deller will urge members to support selected Independents against
|> >Liberal candidates in the October poll...
|>                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> 
|> Does this mean that there will be a Victorian state election in October?
|> If so, does anyone have any information as to how us overseas people can     
|> vote in it?....


Yes, there will be a State Election for Victoria in early October. I don't know
the exact date offhand. There are rumblings of a Queensland poll about the same
time. 

Theres likely to be a lot more about it cropping up in "The Australian" so it is
likely to rate a mention now and then in  oznews. I think there might be
something about it in this weeks "Budget Special ('cause the Weekend Australian
didn't make it on time to SA)" edition of oznews. 

I wouldn't know about the voting. Have you asked the consulate?
----------
Brad Alexander
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From: s8923098@macnab.mqcs.mq.oz.au (Josef WIDJAJA)
Subject: Re: life in aus
Organization: Macquarie University, School of Mathematics, Physics, Computing and Electronics
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 07:15:41 GMT

In article <ggm.714272508@brolga> ggm@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (George Michaelson) writes:

    .....
|
|Lots of confusion about the chinese. Resentment about the large numbers
|of students given extensions to their visas from people expecting to
|get cousins in on family reunion program. Mutterings from the right-wing
|about it all. I don't see what the problem is, this place can stand a lot
|more growth yet. (green movement blather about sustainable population is
|way way off the limits yet.)
|

I don't think the Chinese in Aust. resent the students because they are in
the way of sponsoring families from o/seas to come to Aust. The crux of the
problem is many of those students were bogus students and can be classified
as illegal migrants. Many Australians resented them, but unfortunately many 
Chinese Australians are tarred with same brush. The bigotry against chinese
in Aust. seem to increase in direct proportion to the number of the 
chinese students. That's the reason.


--
 _________Josef Widjaja____________  
|  s8923098@mackay.mpce.mq.edu.au  |
|  Macquarie University, Australia | 
|__________________________________| 
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From: martin@lillee.cs.curtin.edu.au (Martin Dougiamas)
Subject: Re: Cost of Living in Australia??
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 12:19:48 GMT

huumala@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi writes:

>Weather: winter (Jun, Jul, Aug):  Teens and windy
>         summer (Dec, Jan, Feb):  20-35C and humid
>         spring and fall:         somewhere inbetween.

You really can't generalise this much on the weather... Australia is a very
large country and its climates range from winter snow in the mountains of the
south to extremely dry deserts in the centre and tropical jungles up in
the north... 
--
,------------------------------------+----------------------------. ~   _ .
| At first there was nothing.        | Martin Dougiamas.          |~ _r' Ll\ ~
| Then god said "Let there be light!"| martin@cs.curtin.edu.au    | |       \ ~
| Then there was still nothing.      | Curtin University          | \  ._   /
| But you could see it.              | Perth, Western Australia --+->x~  `-' ~
`====================================+============================'    ~  V   ~
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From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.celtic,soc.culture.caribbean,soc.culture.brit
Subject: Re: Manifesto: New Hope for Unitied Britonnic Nations (DSY)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 06:11:29 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

richard@csi.on.ca (Richard Martin) writes:

- Do you mean `Britannic' or `Britonnic'?
- =)
- PS - I don't suppose you've told 10 Downing St. about this, have you?
- --
- Richard Martin                richard@csi.on.ca
- If I had anything witty to say, I wouldn't put it here.

  I might have the wrong word.  The reference I use is that of the nations
founded by the British Empire and still retain loyalty to Her Majesty.

   Well, if I do give no 10 notice, I don't think PM Major would be too happy
finding himself Premier of England!

   BTW, if anyone thinks I am loopy, ridiculers, mockers, and even satirists, I
challenge you to come up with a better alternative!

Dave Shariff Yadallee
yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca, userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All!
cowboy (n): A 20th Century extension of  the neanderthal caveman.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: barth@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (barth.richards)
Subject: Re: Cordless phone in Oz
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:04:50 GMT


In article <richard.713604860@mulgulgum> richard@asis.unimelb.EDU.AU (Richard Begg) writes:
>kothav@jaeger.geog.ubc.ca (Zavareh Kothavala) writes:
>
>|There is a possibility of me doing a year-abroad program in Australia
>|and would prefer to use my (cordless) telephone rather than rent one
>|there.
>
>|I was told that the phone jacks in Australia are different from the 
>|modular (snap-in) jacks used in the US and Canada.  
>
>|Does anyone have any experience in this matter.  Would I be
>|able to get the necessary adaptors or would I have to splice
>|the telephone cable. 
>
>Sorry, no dice.  Cordless phones are now prohibited imports into
>Australia.  There are several reasons for this:
>
>1)  Telecom Austraila (at the moment the only phone company) do not
>    like people connecting non-approved devices to their phone lines
>    (This is supposedly to protect their exchange equipment and the
>    techs who work with them).
>
>2)  The Department of Transport and Communications do not like people
>    using unlicensed radio trasmitters exceeding a certain output power
>    (several imported phones exceed this limit).
>
>3)  The state energy authorities aren't too keen on non-approved
>    equipment either.


4) The jacks are different.

5) The telephone switching equipment in North America may very well
   use different signals to commmunicate with your phone than the switching
   equipment in Australia.  (I seem to remember a discussion of this in
   this group a while back by people who seemed to be a lot more knowledgable
   about this sort of thing than I am.  I seem to remember something about a
   completely different set of dialing signals, so that dialing a 4 on an
   American phone sent a completely different signal down the line than
   dialing a 4 on an Australian phone.)


I think the short answer to your question is "Don't bother."

Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: kym@bingsunl.cc.binghamton.edu (R. Kym Horsell)
Subject: Re: Going to Cairns from Sydney
Organization: State University of New York at Binghamton
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:48:02 GMT

In article <129@elli.une.edu.au> dmiller@elli.une.edu.au (David Miller) writes:
>Congratulations on your fine taste.  Northern Queensland has got to be
>one of the most beautiful places on this planet.

Talking about Qld -- some contest recently aired here regarding
a ``world's biggest cockroach'' competition out of California. 

I'm sure Qld-ers will be amused to hear a 1.5 inch (I'm not getting confused 
between feet and inches here ;-) specimen won.

-kym
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From: richard@csi.on.ca (Richard Martin)
Subject: Re: Manifesto: New Hope for Unitied Britonnic Nations (DSY)
Organization: Carp Systems International, Kanata, ON
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:03:33 GMT

Do you mean `Britannic' or `Britonnic'?
=)
PS - I don't suppose you've told 10 Downing St. about this, have you?
-- 
Richard Martin               	richard@csi.on.ca
If I had anything witty to say, I wouldn't put it here.
From: apl@st-andrews.ac.uk (Andrew P Leech)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.celtic,soc.culture.caribbean,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.new-zealand,can.politics,can.general,aus.politics
Subject: Re: Manifesto: New Hope for Unitied Britonnic Nations (DSY)
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:17:09 GMT
Organization: St. Andrews University, Scotland.

In article <RN.4129@mts.ucs.UAlberta.CA> userLIBE@mts.ucs.UAlberta.CA (unknown) writes:
>This is aimed at the citizens of the following countries:
>   United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland...
 
>  Agriculture: Once united, we would hold many resources... 

>  Employment, Equal opportunities, Public Works and Immigration:...
 
>  Social policy: The nation should try to consult with its religious...

                                             ...etc

>   Dave Shariff Yadallee 

>> [various scathing comments]


It's been well scoffed at, but has anybody read the kind of stuff churned
out by the EC lately? Brussels is full of people who think like this
...except in French, of course.

--Andrew
.sig? No thanks, I've given up.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: miw@cc.uq.oz.au (Mark I. Williams)
Subject: Re: Cordless phone in Oz
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 01:15:45 GMT

richard@asis.unimelb.EDU.AU (Richard Begg) writes:

Some very outdated and erroneous information about communications
regulations in Australia. Mind you, he wasn't the only one.

>1)  Telecom Austraila (at the moment the only phone company) do not
>    like people connecting non-approved devices to their phone lines
>    (This is supposedly to protect their exchange equipment and the
>    techs who work with them).

Write 50 times after school: Telecom Australia does not regulate the
telecommunications industry any more. This function is done by an
independant body called AUSTEL. Also, AOTC (What was Telecom and what
was OTC, now combined) is no longer the only phone company in Australia.
There is in fact a company called OPTUS, but they haven't started
offering any services yet.

>2)  The Department of Transport and Communications do not like people
>    using unlicensed radio trasmitters exceeding a certain output power
>    (several imported phones exceed this limit).

This is somewhat closer to the truth. While connecting non
AUSTEL-approved devices to the telecommunications network without an
isolating device is an offence (if you use an approved isolating device,
you can connect what you damn well please), it is not an offence to own
or import same. DOTC, on the other hand, control radiocommunications
(which by legal definition does not constituete telecommunications!) and
can and do prohibit the ownership, use, and importation of certain
classes of equipment. Unapproved cordless and mobile phones (which means
any of this equipment bought outside Australia) are prohibited imports.

>3)  The state energy authorities aren't too keen on non-approved
>    equipment either.

This may depend where you are. It may well be bollocks. Certainly you
need no approval to connect imported equipment in Queensland.

cheers,


--
Mark Williams         The University of Queensland       miw@cc.uq.edu.au
+61 7 36 54012   (w)  Prentice Centre
+61 7 36 54477  (fax) Qld 4072  Australia
Nullum magnum ingenium sine mixtura dementiae fuit.  -- Seneca
From: w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Olympics: When did Oz 1st compete?
Date: 3 Aug 92 09:58:11 GMT
Reply-To: w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk
Organization: Chemical & Process Engineering Dept, University of Newcastle, UK.


  A book on the Olympics said that in the first Olympics in 1896
only 9 countries competed, one of which was "Britain (with Australia)"

  As Australia did not exist at this time I assume it means that the
British team was made up of British, Irish and Australian athletes.

  Did the separate colonies which made up Australia until 1901 (?)
have their own National Olympic Associations or were they part of 
the British one?   Was 1904 the first that separate teams from
Australia competed in?


                                         W.P.Coyne@newcastle.ac.uk 
...........................................................................
Dept of Process and Chemical Engineering,+|If builders built buildings the 
Newcastle University, United Kingdom.    +|way computer programmers write  
                                         +|programs,                       
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UUCP : ...!ukc!newcastle.ac.uk!W.P.Coyne +|came along would destroy        
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From: pviswana@uceng.UC.EDU (Prashanth V.)
Subject: Accurate description of the Recession in Australia..
Keywords: money,jobs,recreation,racism
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Cincinnati
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 16:47:46 GMT


Hello:

I am trying to find out from the horses mouth what the situation in
Australia really is?? Is the recession really bad out there.
What about Jobs for the new immigrants. I particularly interested
in information regrading Job oppurtunities for people in the
field of Architecture (Civil and and Computer :-)) and in the
business adminstration.

My newly wed sister (an arch) and her husband ( an MBA in Intl finance)
intended to migrate to Australia by dec. They have all their
paper work done. 

THe question is to all the people out there in the various parts of
that the great country to enlighten me and give me an accurate 
description of the recesssion and the conditions of the job, people
and money matters (buying power, rent ranges for middle class living etc.).


If I get enough enpugh responses, I will summarize and post. Please try to
mail me at my address. I appreciate all the information that you may divulge.


Thanks. Have a great day, mate!

-- 
Prashanth Viswanath				 Elemental empathy
pviswana@uceng.uc.edu				 A change of synergy
pviswana@thor.ece.uc.edu			 Music making contact, 
					 	 Naturally
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