From: ederveen@athena.research.ptt.nl (Ederveen D.)
Subject: ISO 8859-3
Reply-To: D.N.M.Ederveen@research.ptt.nl
Organization: PTT Research, The Netherlands
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:01:32 GMT

Jen kopio de reago de Johan van Wingen, pri letero kiun mi sendis al
li pri la planoj pri ISO 8859-3 [traduko sekvos]:

> Date: 21 Jan 1993 18:06 +0100 (CET)
> From: "J. W. van Wingen" <BUTPAA@rulmvs.leidenuniv.nl>
> Subject: Re: ISO 6937 / 8859-3: Esperanto
> 
> Prettig weer eens iets te horen.
> Olle J%arnefors was niet aanwezig op de laatste vergadering van SC2/WG3.
> Ik heb daar gesteld dat Part 4 nu overbodig is, maar dat Part 3 nog
> steeds nodig is voor Esperanto. Over de toekomst van beide is nog geen
> besluit genomen. De volgende vergadering is in de laatste week van
> April in Geneve, waar ik wel heen zal gaan.
> Mijn verslag is hier bijgevoegd.

Bone denove auxdi ion de vi. Olle J%arnefors ne cxeestis la lastan kunsidon
de SC2/WG3. Mi tie diris ke Parto 4 superfluas nun, sed ke Parto 3 ankoraux
necesas por Esperanto. Pri la estonto de ambaux decido ne jam estas farita.
La sekva kunsido estos en la lasta semajno de aprilo en Geneve, kien mi
iros. Mi aldonis mian raporton.

> REPORT OF THE MEETING OF ISO/IEC JTC1/SC2/WG3
> Geneva, Switzerland, 31 August-2 September 1992
> J. W. van Wingen, Netherlands delegate
> Leiden, 1992-11-17
>  
> 0  Introduction
>  
> This Report summarizes the results of the September 1992 meeting of
> ISO/IEC JTC1/SC2/WG3, Everything but Multiple-octet Character Coding. It
> is structured according to subjects, without mentioning the agenda
> points, but referring to the resolutions by their number (indicated by a
> "R"). It is assumed that the reader is accustomed to concepts and
> terminology of SC2 standards.
>  
> 1  General
>  
> The meeting lasted from Monday 14.00 to Wednesday 15.00, and was chaired
> by its new convener, Mr. Van den Beld, Switzerland, (for the the first
> time). There were 12 National Bodies represented: France(2), Germany(2),
> Egypt(1), Japan(1), Iceland(1), Israel(2), the Netherlands(1),
> Sweden(1), Switzerland(2), UK(1), including two CCITT SGVIII delegates.
>  
> 2  Status of WG3
>  
> This meeting of WG3 was the first after the SC2 plenary in Rennes, in
> October 1991, where its new scope was adopted, merging the work of
> WG1, 3 and 6, and after the transfer of the SC2 Secretariat from France
> to Switzerland, involving appointment of new Chairman and Secretary.
> Both new officials, S. Lindberg and J. van den Beld, were present.
>  
> The list of work items resulting from the merge was checked, and a
> first start was made to clear up the total mess left by AFNOR in SC2.
> The document numbers of SC2 will now restart at N 2351.
>  
> 3  On-going work
>  
> A number of Recommendations were adopted, documented as WG3 N 162. No
> minutes of the meeting have appeared as yet.
>  
> Finalization of DIS's
>  
> The revisions of ISO 6429 (Control functions), ISO 6937 (Coded character
> sets for text communication), and the new part 10 of ISO 8859
> (Scandinavian and Baltic letters) have been approved by letter ballot.
> Comments were resolved during the meeting, and a Final Text will be
> prepared by each Project Editor and sent to ISO/IEC ITTF for publication
> (R4,2,3).
>  
> In the new ISO 6937 the list of short identifiers will be kept, thus
> the votes of Japan and Switzerland will remain negative. Rejected was
> the addition of an Annex stating which characters are in fact non-
> existing and superfluous, and which are still missing (Welsh).
> &
> Control functions
>  
> There are several requests to add new control functions, either to ISO
> 6429 or to ISO 10538 (control functions for text communication).
> Definite proposals are now expected from the National bodies (R5). The
> same applies to those for bi-directional texts (R6). SC18 could not be
> satified unless their proposal was changed technically (R8).
>  
> CCITT Recommendations
>  
> The recent drafts for T50, T51, T52, T53 were presented for comment. T53
> will be aligned to ISO 6429 (R1). T50 corresponds to ISO 646, T51 to
> Teletex (and parallels ISO 6937), and T52 covers (some) non-Latin
> scripts.
>  
> New part of ISO 8859
>  
> A proposal for a part containing technical symbols was not accepted, but
> registration recommended instead (R10).
>  
> Old parts of ISO 8859
>  
> No decision was taken as yet on parts 3 and 4 of ISO 8859. Now we have
> ISO 8859-10 little use of part 4 remains, but, as I had to point out,
> part 3 is still needed for Esperanto (and Maltese, but no more for
> Turkish, disregarding the non-existing letters for Afrikaans and
> Catalan). Withdrawal would also mean revision of ISO 10367.
>  
> Revision of ISO 2022
>  
> Mr. Paterson presented a totally rewritten version of ISO 2022, not
> having changed its contents (WG3 N 145). It is meant to facilitate the
> revision process which will take some time. The old text was thought
> hard to understand, and thus difficult to amend. No discussion followed.
>  
> Other subjects
>  
> Possible deviations between ISO 10367 and ISO 10646 are causing concern.
> The 10646 project editor will be contacted (R9).
>  
> The problem of identifying character sets was put to the attention of
> WG3 by Dr. Bettels. A questionnaire will be circulated in SC2 (R7).
> A small ad hoc group (Lindberg (IBM), Bettels (DEC) and myself) met
> after the meeting to discuss its contents. IBM's CDRA illustrates the
> problems rather well. ASN.1 Object Identifiers are not suitable in all
> contexts where identification is required. Thus alternatives should be
> allowed. Finding good solutions is not easy.