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From: apj003@cch.coventry.ac.uk (James W Bottomley)
Subject: Re: Coventry vs. London/etc (was Re: humor in England)
Organization: unorganized
Distribution: uk
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:02:00 GMT

In article <D2150050.j2ov50@nan.network-analysis-ltd.co.uk> sw@network-analysis-ltd.co.uk writes:
>
>In article <BxyH0o.9Ms@fulcrum.co.uk> (uk.misc), davidw@fulcrum.co.uk (David Wilkinson) writes:
>
>> I can think of many places I hate driving much more than Coventry ring road.
>

How about Swindon!?@#$## All those dinky little mini-roundabouts! They even
congregate in little groups - roundabouts of mini-roundabouts... I mean, is
Swindon Town Council wierd or what?

>The main problem with it, I think, is that people treat it as a 2-lane
>highway instead of a ring road. They should be using the left lane for
>entry/exit and the right lane for continuing on the ring road (think of
>it as a giant roundabout), but of course if you try to do that the X3is
>will give you the finger.

This is very true. But an even bigger problem is that on certain exits, for
example the Knowle road clockwise exit, you can't see very well into the
road you are exiting into. The system is designed so that as you leave the
main inner ring road, you travel directly into a road that other traffic is
hurtling along. If visibility is limited, this can be very nasty, given that
you are also trying to judge vehicles weaving in and out in front and behind
you at the same time.

I think the whole thing must have been designed with very many fewer vehicles
running at much slower speeds in mind. At least, that's Coventry's excuse - 
I wonder what Swindon's is?

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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: johnk@harlqn.co.uk (John Kamp)
Subject: Off Site Tape Storage
Organization: Harlequin Limited, Cambridge, England
Distribution: uk
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 12:28:29 GMT

I am currently looking into storing computer tapes off site for
disaster prevention. I am looking into all areas of storage; from
storing tapes at peoples houses, bank safety deposit boxs,
professional computer media storage etc..

I am curious to know what other people are doing to store computer
tapes off site. Do you use another office within the company, take
things home? What sort of cycle period do you use? I will summarize
any results on the net.

For those in the UK:

Basically I am having trouble finding people who provide a full
archived storage system and who can keep track of all that goes in/out
and can provide transport. Is there anyone out there that use's such a
company? The only one I can track down is Group 4 Securitas who
provide environmentally controlled storage, security, pickup/delivery
etc...

We are based in Barrington, about 7 miles out of Cambridge, so
somewhere local would be useful, but any information or contacts for
such a service anywhere in the UK would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

John Kamp
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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: cei352@cck.coventry.ac.uk (The Freak)
Subject: Re: humor in England 
Organization: Coventry University, Coventry, U.K
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:08:16 GMT

In article <BxwuA9.DMv@cck.coventry.ac.uk> ljp@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Guido) writes:
>In article <721948469snz@kram.demon.co.uk> mt@kram.demon.co.uk writes:
>>In article <BxtIsn.JE0@cck.coventry.ac.uk> gdg019@cch.coventry.ac.uk writes:
>>>>Not that I'm biased or anything, but I reckon England starts at Watford Gap.
>>>>Heading north.
>>>
>>>I'm afraid you'd have to stop when it becomes Scotland, though, or they won't
>>>be very happy at all.
>>
>>:) Couldn't agree more.
>>
>
>I thought they had sold Scotland to England in the 18th century!
>
> One of the worst decisions ever made in the entire history of man ,me thinks

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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
Subject: Re: Was: Re: 29 Feb 2000?, Now: 2000/2001
Reply-To: gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:36:46 GMT

In article <CC.92Nov17175024@arran.dcs.ed.ac.uk> cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke) writes:
>
>   In <721949208snz@muir.demon.co.uk> malcolm@muir.demon.co.uk ("Malcolm S. Muir") writes:
>
>2000 Anno Domini ought to mean that it's 2000 years since Jesus Christ was
>born.  When he was born, it was no *years* since he was born, therefore his
>first year of life was spent in AD 0, surely?  His second year of life was
>therefore AD 1, and so on - so 2000 AD ought to be the start of the 21st century.

No, Anno Domini 2000 means "in the year of our Lord 2000".  Thus AD 1 was
the first year of our Lord, AD 2 was the second and so on -- except of
course that Christ was actually born around 5 BC, making the whole thing
meaningless...

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From: aw@bnr.co.uk (Alan Wilkinson)
Newsgroups: uk.telecom
Subject: What exactly is PCN? (Was: Cordless...)
Date: 23 Nov 1992 11:21:33 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd
NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.100.101.77

In article <1992Nov20.135112.10903@unipalm.co.uk>, 
keith@unipalm.co.uk (Keith Mitchell) writes:

 made some very interesting observations about CT2 technology/ Rabbit,
including:

> - Rabbit/Hutchinson have a PCN licence. They have a commitment to builing
>   a market share, and an infrastructure, some of which it makes sense to
>   be shared between PCN and CT2. I would like to think there will be some
>   upgrade path from CT2 to PCN, especially if the former fails.

Can anybody enlighten me about exactly what PCN is/will be, and how it differs 
from technologies used in current cellular or CT2 systems? 

Is it just the next generation of cellular but using digital technology? If so,
what extra features will be available to users beyond better audio quality? 

Thanks...

Alan Wilkinson.
From: ma_blase@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Fox)
Newsgroups: uk.telecom
Subject: Re: Sunday cheap calls
Date: 23 Nov 92 12:06:46 GMT
Organization: University of the West of England, Bristol
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Grahame Davies (grahame@demon.co.uk) wrote:
> Doesn't anybody observe the nettiquette of only 4 lines for a .sig? :)
> 
> Grahame

I thought it was only three lines?

Fox
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Newsgroups: uk.telecom
From: mandarin@cix.compulink.co.uk (Richard Cox)
Subject: Re: Charge advice has changed ?         
Cc: mandarin@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: mandarin@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:18:00 +0000

evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans) writes:

>>  This looks like a software bug (or maybe a feature). A conditional is
>>  missing preventing the charge advice module being called if the cost of
>>  the call is free. (the designer of the code module giving the message
>>  appears to have taken this into account, due the the different message)

I have asked the question in the right part of BT and will report back in a
few days when I get the answer.  There may have been a slight mistake here,
but if there has been, I understand that BT would regard it as being of the
highest importance to get it put right before customer confidence is damaged!

Richard Cox

Mandarin Technology, Cardiff Business Park, Llanishen, CARDIFF, Wales CF4 5WF
Voice: +44 222 747111      Fax: +44 222 711111      VoiceMail: +44 399 870101
E-mail: mandarin@cix.compulink.co.uk     Not diallable on 511 in mainland USA
Newsgroups: uk.telecom
From: mandarin@cix.compulink.co.uk (Richard Cox)
Subject: Re: OFTEL number changes                
Cc: mandarin@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: mandarin@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:18:00 +0000

evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans) writes:

>>  Consider the group 021 359 6531, there are infact 5 lines numbered
>>  consecutivly 021 359 6531 ... 021 359 6535.
>>  Only the first number in the group can be dialed, and will get the first
>>  free line, dialing any of the other 4 numbers will get an unobtainable
>>  message.

Ah - a fallacy here.  021 359 6531 used to be one line, with "hunting" to the
other four numbers (which existed and could be dialled in their own right).
But when the exchange was modernised, the four lines 021 359 6532-5 became
021 359 6531/2 to 021 359 6531/5 respectively and, as a result, can no longer
be dialled (unless you specially asked BT for that facility - in which case
the numbers allocated for you to dial NEED NOT be the original numbers).

>>  The DTMF (touch tone) maps to a 4 bit code, so you could in fact use
>>  hexadecimal rather than decimal for the numbering anyway.

No you couldn't, as that would conflict with CCITT recommendations !


Richard Cox

Mandarin Technology, Cardiff Business Park, Llanishen, CARDIFF, Wales CF4 5WF
Voice: +44 222 747111      Fax: +44 222 711111      VoiceMail: +44 399 870101
E-mail: mandarin@cix.compulink.co.uk     Not diallable on 511 in mainland USA
Newsgroups: uk.telecom
From: aemmerson@cix.compulink.co.uk (Andrew Emmerson)
Subject: Re: How to change phone ring tone?      
Cc: aemmerson@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: aemmerson@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 16:42:00 +0000

BT still supplies phones with neon lamp ringing indicators  -  the Tribune.
They be shown only in their Aids for the Disabled catalogue but they are
available.
Andy Emmerson.

>>>MATRIX version  1.21c
Newsgroups: uk.telecom
From: jeremyf@cix.compulink.co.uk (Jeremy Folkes)
Subject: Re: OFTEL number changes
Reply-To: jeremyf@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 14:48:00 +0000


Mr Cox writes:

> "home banking" terminals.  These lines do need to be identified by numbers
> even if they do not receive incoming calls.  So home banking does create a

This is something I always wondered about.  Although I can see very
good administrative reasons for *all* PSTN lines having a national
number, it isnt *really* necessary. Now that BT (and I presume other
PTOs) have introduced separate account numbers, which at least for
residential customers are allocated one per line, it should be
possible to separate the "account" designation from the "port"
designation from the "directory number". After all, we are only
talking about the "customer visible" number..... the PTO can do
whatever they like internally.

A non-dialable number (eg containing alpha characters) could be used
if a phone number-like designation is needed (eg to identify the
"line" for emergency calls).

Not that I think it'll ever happen, but worthy of some thought!
Lots of good reasons why not but we seem to use the DN for more than
we should.

Jeremy


Newsgroups: uk.telecom
From: keith@unipalm.co.uk (Keith Mitchell)
Subject: Re: Cordless Phones recommendation provided 
Organization: Unipalm Ltd., 216 Cambridge Science Park, Cambridge CB4 4WA, UK
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:50:54 GMT

mandarin@cix.compulink.co.uk (Richard Cox) writes:

>You certainly want CT2, for range as well as versatility.  We *do* recommend
>Rabbit (we would ... we sell them !) and several readers of this group would
>probably confirm the quality of Rabbit speech.   Unless you knew anyway, you
>might not realise that someone to whom you were speaking was using a Rabbit.

I'll certainly vouch for the speech quality, (provided there are no
moving metal objects, e.g trains, around :-) and I have definitely
used it to people who have no idea I am using a cordless phone. In
fact, better quality than the non-cordless phone I have on my desk
right now.

Keith Mitchell

Public IP Exchange             keith@pipex.net
216 The Science Park           keith@unipalm.co.uk
Cambridge, UK                  keith@uk.co.pipex	(non-IP JANET sites)
Phone: +44 223-424616
Fax:   +44 223-426868
From: jrg@doc.ic.ac.uk (James Grinter)
Newsgroups: uk.telecom
Subject: Details/ instructions wanted for Racal Vadic VI 2422S and MSI 2123 Modems
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:37:18 GMT
Organization: Dept. Of Computing, Imperial College of STM, UoL, UK
Distribution: uk
NNTP-Posting-Host: oak26.doc.ic.ac.uk


Two modems, as follows. Operating instructions/ hints and details
would be appreciated:

Racal Vadic VI 2422S. (10 buttons at front, labelled Data Voice, Ans
Orig, V.21, Lease PSTN, FB, Option, L2/Opt Set, L3/^, Rdl/Opt Sel,
ET/v; each with corresponding LEDs. ^ and v are up pointing and down
pointing arrows respectively)

MSI 2123 - Master Systems (Data Products) Ltd. (model 21/23 SA;
revision 2; 8 dip switches at rear labelled function, rotary dial at
front with 0 to 9, three buttons Loop, Data, Voice)

James.
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"If it ain't broken, don't fix it!"
Newsgroups: uk.telecom
From: evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans)
Subject: Re: 02 numbers                              
Organization: Aston University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL241235]
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:27:59 GMT

Richard Cox (mandarin@cix.compulink.co.uk) wrote:
: guy@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Guy Barry) writes:
: 
: >>  I'm getting more and more astonished by all this.  If that's the plan,
: >>  then why not leave all numbers as they are at the moment, and bring in
: >>  "01" numbers to provide relief and for additional services?  The number
: >>  of possible eleven-digit "01" numbers is exactly the same as the number
: >>  of possible eleven-digit "02" numbers.
: 
: That is what a lot of people are thinking right now.
: Except BT and Oftel, of course.

there are quite a few 10 digit numbers starting 01...
like in the order of 50 million
which are not currently used (which have been free since London finished
going to 071/081)

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Newsgroups: uk.telecom
From: mandarin@cix.compulink.co.uk (Richard Cox)
Subject: 02 numbers                              
Cc: mandarin@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: mandarin@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 12:22:00 +0000

guy@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Guy Barry) writes:

>>  I'm getting more and more astonished by all this.  If that's the plan,
>>  then why not leave all numbers as they are at the moment, and bring in
>>  "01" numbers to provide relief and for additional services?  The number
>>  of possible eleven-digit "01" numbers is exactly the same as the number
>>  of possible eleven-digit "02" numbers.

That is what a lot of people are thinking right now.
Except BT and Oftel, of course.
Richard Cox

Mandarin Technology, Cardiff Business Park, Llanishen, CARDIFF, Wales CF4 5WF
Voice: +44 222 747111      Fax: +44 222 711111      VoiceMail: +44 399 870101
E-mail: mandarin@cix.compulink.co.uk     Not diallable on 511 in mainland USA
Newsgroups: uk.telecom
From: esuln@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J S Murray)
Newsgroups: uk.telecom
Subject: Charge advice has changed ?
Date: 23 Nov 1992 13:32:31 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk
Summary: Am I being charged 5p for free calls?


It appears that charge advice changed on Friday.
On the phone that I share with 5 others, we always have charge advice enabled
so that we may split the bill correctly.

Before Friday, if the call was free (in BT's eyes) eg. Mercury, 0800 ...
the exchange did not call back - ie it only called you if your call was
chargeable - the minimum charge it reported was 10p (for a 2 second call)

Since Friday, it always rings back - if it was a 'free' call, it makes the
stupid noise you get when you dial into a payphone and then 'the woman' says
'there was no charge for your call'.

This can be a little irritating, especially if you call a number via Mercury
which is engaged and keep retrying, for the charge advice messages can stack
up and it keeps calling you back.

My main question is whether I am being charged for this service or not.
I rang BT this morning and they were totally unaware of any change to their
system. Nor were they able to tell me if I was being charged 5-6p a time for
my free calls. Their only advice was to turn off charge advice each time.
I'll have to do this even though it is a pain.

They did not seem certain of the exact operation of the system, claiming that
the cost reported by 'the woman' does not include the charge for the service
itself - although my minimum 10p reported seems to indicate the reverse.

Can anyone help me with this question?

thanks

jsm
Newsgroups: uk.telecom
From: grahame@demon.co.uk (Grahame Davies)
Subject: Re: Sunday cheap calls 
Distribution: world
Organization: Demon Systems Ltd.
Reply-To: grahame@demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.18)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:56:48 +0000


In article <1992Nov23.120646.14178@csd.uwe.ac.uk> ma_blase@csd.uwe.ac.uk writes:

>Grahame Davies (grahame@demon.co.uk) wrote:
>> Doesn't anybody observe the nettiquette of only 4 lines for a .sig? :)
>> 
>> Grahame
>
>I thought it was only three lines?
>
>Fox
>-- 
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> 
> \O O/ O   if it's wrong.  The act of pronouncing it wrong's a form of caring.'
>  \o/  X        Robert M. Pirsig - Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance   
> 
Possibly.

As it happens, your first line has an extra space after _know_ and my
viewer wraps that round an creates an extra blank line - making your
sig 4 lines :)
Grahame
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From: peter@serdlm34.essex.ac.uk (Peter Allott)
Newsgroups: uk.telecom
Subject: Re: Sunday cheap calls
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:57:41 GMT
Reply-To: peter@essex.ac.uk (Peter Allott)
Distribution: uk
Organization: University of Essex, Colchester, UK

Can someone tell me is the Sunday call offer
(1) Until Christmas    OR
(2) Every Suday in November and December

i.e. What about Dec 27th?
Xref: sparky uk.telecom:37 uk.misc:381
From: ken@aiai.ed.ac.uk (Ken Johnson)
Newsgroups: uk.telecom,uk.misc
Subject: Most expensive phone service in Europe
Date: 17 Nov 92 14:02:55 GMT
Followup-To: uk.telecom
Distribution: uk
Organization: Bugs-R-Us


Searching around for evidence that BT offers the most expensive
telephone service in Europe (the conjecture comes originally from
Private Eye, and I have no doubt that it is true) I turned up the fact
that, with a fair wind, a three-minute LOCAL call can cost you \pounds
1.81.

The trick is to reverse the charges.  The call, of course, involves
exactly the same amount of work as setting up any other operator
connected local call (20p), but since the caller is likely to be in
difficulties or urgent need, BT multiplies the price by about nine. 

exorbitantly, Ken Johnson




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From: nib@crosfield.co.uk (nigel bromley)
Newsgroups: uk.telecom
Subject: Re: Cordless Phones recommendation provided
Date: 23 Nov 92 08:05:40 GMT
Organization: Crosfield Electronics, Hemel Hempstead, United Kingdom.

In article <BxznzL.71E@exnet.co.uk>, s0gwb@exnet.co.uk 
(George Battrick) writes:

> Hang on:-)  are you saying that if I buy a Rabbit
> handset-plus-base-station, and an extra handset, then I *can't* talk
> through my base-station from one handset to the other?  That was going to
> be one of the main reasons for buying it for my elderly parents (mum in
> the house, dad in the greenhouse, one of them falls...).  I was fairly
> sure that the earlier Ferranti offering (Zonephone?) *did* allow this.
> 
> And are they both CT2?  I thought this version was supposed to be a
> technical improvement on the previous three.

You can do this without needing CT2 technology. I have an Ascom cordless
phone set, with base station and two handsets, that does intercom between
handsets or handsets and base station (up to 8 handsets possible), call
transfer between handsets, ringback on one handset when the other hangs
up... just like a home exchange.

It uses ordinary analogue domestic cordless phone technology, with some
noise reduction. Available in Dixons. I think it's called Ascom CT128 (for
'one to eight' handsets?!).

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Newsgroups: uk.telecom
From: peterco@eff.org (Peter Cohen)
Subject: UK phone wiring vs US?
Originator: peterco@eff.org
Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:07:44 GMT

Hi.  Please help me.  I'm trying to find out what the technical
differences are between UK phone wiring and US phone wiring.  If someone
can assist me with the following questions, I will be eternally grateful
and buy them plenty of beer the next time they're in the states (in
Boston, MA):

Are RJ-11 jacks used, or commonly available in the UK?

If not, is there an easy adaptor or change that can be done to facilitate
a conversion?

Will US modems work overseas without any changes (except PS)?

Please email me with answers, as I don't normally read this newsgroup.
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Newsgroups: uk.telecom
From: dsg@impmh.uucp (Dave Gordon)
Subject: Re: Delaying TAM Answering
Organization: Integrated Micro Products Ltd
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:44:51 GMT

In <Steve.00jt@donald.demon.co.uk> Steve@donald.demon.co.uk (Steve Gilbert) writes:
>
>My answering machine currently answers after 4 rings. I want to delay the
>answer so that it answers after 7-8 rings.
>
>Is there a device that I can plug between the answering machine and phone
>socket that will do this for me?

I would like this information too, as I also think 4 rings is too short.

I have a suspicion that the chip in the answering machine may be able
to do this already, but the switches on my answering machine allow
only selection of 2 or 4 rings before answering ... someday I'm going
to take it apart & find out what chip it is, so I can get the full
spec - or I might just try connecting up any unused pins & see what
happens :-)
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