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Reply-To:     Jason Watson <jwatson@ST6000.SCT.EDU>
From:         Jason Watson <jwatson@ST6000.SCT.EDU>
Subject:      Out of This World

I thought that OOTW was just too short!  The game itself was incredible,
but I finished it in a week of leisurely playing!! What would really be
nice is a VERY LONG CD-ROM version (or sequel).

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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 10:08:42 -0700
Reply-To:     Ken Shaw <kens@CATSEQ.CATLIN.EDU>
From:         Ken Shaw <kens@CATSEQ.CATLIN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: OS/2 2.1 & Windows NT

> On top of that, WIN NT isn't really supposed to do anything in it's wishful
> list that OS/2 doesn't do now.

        I would dissagree, presenting unicode, C2 & B2 security, RPC
support, POSIX support, support for multiple platforms (by the way, NT _is_
currently running on Alpha machines), paths, and many other parts of the
operating system as supporting evidence.

        From my experience, I would say that each has its advantages and
disadvantages.  Windows NT seems to be a "Better" operating system feature
wise, but it is only in beta right now, and requires a considerable amount
of hardware.  OS2, on the other hand, is available now and runs on less
expensive machines, but lacks many of the nicer features of NT.

        What is the operating system of the future?  It all depends on how
Microsoft and IBM play their cards.  I would expect that it will matter
little in the long run, however, as both NT and the version of OS2 based
on the Mach kernal are built on a microkernal arcitecture.  Translation:
If OS2 wins, it will be able to run WIN32 code, and vice versa.

        To conclude this message, I would like to ask that the continued
discussion of operating systems be moved to a more pertainent list.  As a
windows developer, I obviously am interested in this discussion, but I
would guess that many of the other people on this list are not.

                                        -Ken


PS: If you are interested in what the features I've just mentioned mean,
    please write - never let someone silence you just by using terms you
    are unfarmiliar with.
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 10:28:01 -0700
Reply-To:     Ken Shaw <kens@CATSEQ.CATLIN.EDU>
From:         Ken Shaw <kens@CATSEQ.CATLIN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Monkey Island 2 help wanted

On Tue, 22 Dec 1992 BULCA%TRBOUN.bitnet@UTARLVM1.UTA.EDU wrote:
> BTW, if anybody cares to answer it immediatly, I am after Largo`s clothes but
> don`t konw how to beat that babbling cleaner-man.(Yes I`m still there and it
 has
> been almost a month since I started to play this game. This is not like
 myself!)


        Quick summation: get the bucket from the three pirates, fill the
bucket with swamp water, place the bucket filled with swamp water above
Largo's door, and after largo is soaked, get the cleaner's card off of the
back of his door.

        If you need more help with this, such as how to get into Largo's
room etc., please write.

                                                -Ken
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:38:57 EST
From:         LUCKD@APSU.BITNET
Subject:      instructional technology in music education

I am searching for information (books, articles, personal references)
concerning the use of instructional technologies, specifically computers,
CD-computer interfacing, LaserDisk, MIDI, etc. in the area of Music education.

This information will be used by a student in their theses research.

Please direct any responses to me and I will forward them to the student.

Thank you for your time.

Dr. Donald D. Luck
Austin Peay State University
LUCKD@APSU.BITNET
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:15:55 EST
From:         "Michael Gaffney, Dunedin NZ" <EDUCJMG@otago.ac.nz>
Subject:      Re: Hyper Card conversions

To Ken Carr

I have recently asked the same question on edtech myself and the two responses
that seemed to have the most promise was CONVERT IT which will convert a
Hypercard stack for use on TOOLBOOK and and another authoring program called
WINDOWCRAFT which can convert hypercard stacks.  I haven't seen either of
these programmes as yet so I cant comment on their effectiveness.

Michael Gaffney
educjmg@otago.ac.nz
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 09:51:24 EST
From:         Ron Rushing <f_rushingrg@ccsvax.sfasu.edu>
Subject:      SeniorNet ?

Greetings From Nacogdoches--

Can someone put in in touch with the telecommunications folks at SeniorNet ?

We've been working with a local group to establish a connection for these
folks and have not been able to make any headway--

Thanks--



               ---   Ron Rushing ---
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         Stephen F. Austin State University
       Box 6172       Nacogdoches, TX  75962
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From: carson@post.ntu.edu.au (John Carson)
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Subject: Re:Authorware Professional
Date: 10 Jan 93 15:02:51 GMT
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        Reply to:   RE>Authorware Professional
Brett,
I have converted Mac Authorware to Windows no problems, you have to make sure
that you install the macintosh fonts into the Windows program so that it will
recongnise them they come with the APW for windows then any transferr will pick
up these fonts especially if you use the Truetype
fonts.

Hope this helps.

John Carson
Northern Territory University
Darwin Australia
carson@post.ntu.edu.au
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 06:27:44 EST
From:         Gleason Sackman <sackman@plains.nodak.edu>
Subject:      Virtual Reality and Disability (from ALTLEARN)

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Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 18:17:55 EST
From: Joan Winsor <jwinsor@tmn.com>
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Subject: Virtual Reality and Disability

SUBJECT: Virtual Reality and Disability
Date:    Sat, 9 Jan 1993 9:58:53 -0800 (PST)
From: uunet!VAX.CSUN.EDU!VFOAO073 (Harry Murphy (VAXMAILID))
                      Advisory Board Meets
                      for June 17-18, 1993
                          Conference on
                "Virtual Reality and Disability"
(California State University, Northridge (CSUN).  December 15, 1992).

On December 11, twenty-five (25) leaders came together from the fields of
virtual reality and rehabilitation and assistive technology to plan the
June 17-18, 1993 meeting, "Virtual Reality and Disability," to be held at
the Westin Hotel near the San Francisco Airport.

Greenleaf Medical Systems, CyberEdge Journal, Pacific Bell, and the
California Department of Rehabilitation agreed to co-sponsor the
conference.  Dr. Walter Greenleaf has agreed to Chair the Advisory Board.

A Call for Papers has been issued.  Papers are solicited which deal with
applications in the field of disability, access issues, and the potential
of VR to assist persons with disabilities. The purpose of the meeting is to
bring together three groups: the Virtual Reality community, the disability
community, and the rehabilitation/assistive technology community in order
to stimulate new applications of VR, insure that persons with disabilities
have access to VR technologies, and the integrate VR into the
rehabilitation/assistive technology field.

For a "Call for Papers" brochure, or other information, please contact:
Dr. Harry Murphy
California State University, Northridge (CSUN)
18111 Nordhoff Street - DVSS
Northridge, CA 91330
Phone:  818 885 2578
FAX:    818 885 4929
EMAIL:  VR@VAX.CSUN.EDU

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From: pwillott@educ.ucalgary.ca (Peter Willott)
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Subject: Changing Grammar
Date: 10 Jan 93 15:04:35 GMT
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Dear All,
     I have noticed that several members of EDTECH have attempted
to combine the singular with the plural, as in 'to be used by a
student in their thesis.'
     Apparently, such people are trying to avoid what they see as
sexism in language (although that is debatable, as would be the
second stage of the subject of any perceived discrimination).
However, to those of use who read fluently it can be a source of
confusion as well as annoyance.  I believe the simple solution is
to avoid the plural, as in 'to be used by a student in a thesis.'
     Does this not bother anyone else?  If not, I need to know in
order to begin burning my grammar materials ... I teach English
Language Arts at this time ...
P

Peter Willott
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:43:10 EST
From:         "William C. Tippy" <TIPPY@opus.oca.udayton.edu>
Subject:      Re: CAMPUS NETWORKS

Larry,

Here at the University of Dayton we are in the planning (close to
reality) stage of a Campus Video Network over coaxial cable, as
well as a fiber optic backbone for data to make available service
to all residence hall rooms, conference rooms, etc.  Voice over
twisted pair was upgraded approx. 7 years ago.

Vidnet-l (vidnet-l@uga) is a list specializing in the discussion
of Campus Video Networks.  Ohio Northern University, University
of Mass. at Amherst, University of Georgia, Virginia Tech, St.
Lawrence U., Buffalo State College all have or are working on
such systems and have participated in discussions related to such.

Surveys have been done by the College of William and Mary (P.B.
Welbek) on what others are doing also.

I have a list of consultants that have been recommended by others
for campus systems that I can send if you wish.

Feel free to call or email

Bill Tippy
Video Telecommunications Coordinator
University of Dayton
513-229-4847
513-229-4000 fax
internet: Tippy@opus.oca.udayton.edu
bitnet: Tippy@Dayton
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 09:47:20 EST
From:         Ron Rushing <f_rushingrg@ccsvax.sfasu.edu>
Subject:      LaserDisk Player Questions--

Greetings From Nacogdoches--

Can someone tell me if Pioneer makes an RF modulator kit for their 4400
series LDP ?  I've called a few dealers and no one seems to know, nor has
anyone called me back yet...
I could use a third-party box, but the KISS (Keep It Simple...) rule comes
into play--more cables, power, ect required.

ALSO-- have any of you folks had any experience with the Panasonic AG-LD30
LDP ?  I have only heard a little about this unit--and am wondering how it
compares with the Pioneer models.

As of this AM, I am planning to head off to INFOCOM in New Orleans--Hope to
run into a few of you EDTECH-L folks there.  Perhaps an after-hours meeting
place could be found in New Orleans :-}?  Check the message board there (if
available).



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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:43:54 EST
From:         Alain Soucie <acsoucie@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Subject:      Re: Hyper Card conversions

You can try LinkWay by IBM. If you plan on doing multimedia
applications, try LinkWay Live. None of the two are Windows-based.

   <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
                             Alain Soucie
             Educational Psychology: Computer Applications
                       acsoucie@asc.ucalgary.ca
                            (403) 220-5181
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:43:48 EST
From:         Gleason Sackman <sackman@plains.nodak.edu>
Subject:      NEW LIST: SCOLT - Southern Conference on Language Teaching (fwd)

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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 11:42:41 CST
From: Lee Bradley <lbradley@grits.valdosta.peachnet.edu>
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Subject: NEW LIST: SCOLT - Southern Conference on Language Teaching

SCOLT on LISTSERV@catfish.valdosta.peachnet.edu

   The Southern Conference on Language Teaching

   SCOLT is pleased to offer a new service to all its constituents who
   are interested in foreign language education.  The organization is
   establishing an e-mail List to which colleagues in foreign language
   education may subscribe.

   We hope that you will feel free to use this service for disseminating
   professional announcements, presentations, special programs, job
   availabilities, questions, inquiries, searches, informal article
   reviews, etc.

   The SCOLT List is _NOT_, however, a forum for personal
   communications.  Remember that messages on a List are distributed to
   all subscribers!

   Please include a "signature block" (name, full address, phone, fax)
   at the end of your messages sent to the List.

   You may tell your colleagues that they, too, are invited to subscribe
   to this "conference" by sending the following message to
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        SUBSCRIBE SCOLT <your name>

   Once you are subscribed, mail to the List ("conference") is addressed
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From: treeves@moe.coe.uga.edu (Tom Reeves)
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Subject: Position Announcement
Date: 10 Jan 93 15:00:47 GMT
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Associate Professor of Instructional Technology
(Tenure Track Position)
College of Education
The University of Georgia

The University of Georgia invites applications from qualified candidates
for the position of Associate Professor of Instructional Technology.  The
College of Education, with over 200 faculty members, is divided into four
schools, including the School of Professional Studies of which the
Department of Instructional Technology is a unit.  The Department of
Instructional Technology, with ten full-time faculty positions, is one of
the highest rated academic programs in the field.  The department offers
academic degrees at the masters, specialist, and doctoral levels with
emphases in instructional technology, school media, and computer-based
education.

Responsibilities:  Within the Department of Instructional Technology, the
appointee will teach courses in areas such as instructional systems theory,
cognitive science, learning environments, and/or technology futures.  The
faculty member will also be expected to qualify for appointment to the
University's Graduate Faculty, take an active role in advising graduate
students, and serving on or direct doctoral research committees.  The
appointee will be expected to collaborate with other faculty in generating
external funding for research and development projects.

Qualifications/Skills:  Applicants should have an earned doctorate in
instructional technology or a related field.  Evidence of strong teaching
skills, significant research and publication, and successful grant activity
are required.  Candidates with experience and interest in R & D within K-12
or higher education are preferred.  Women and minorities are
under-represented at The University of Georgia at this level and therefore
suitably qualified women and minorities are encouraged to apply.

Salary:  Commensurate with qualifications and experience.

Application Deadline:  February 15, 1993.  Appointee should be available to
join the faculty no later than September 10, 1993.  Send letter of
application, current resume, and the name, address, phone number, and
e-mail address of three (3) references to: Dr. Kent L. Gustafson, Professor
and Chair of Search Committee, Department of Instructional Technology, The
University of Georgia, 607 Aderhold Hall, Athens, GA 30602-7144, USA.

The University of Georgia is an Affirmative Action/Equal Opportunity Employer.


Submitted by Tom Reeves   treeves@moe.coe.uga.edu
From: sdavis@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stephen S Davis)
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Subject: Authoring w/authoring sftwre
Date: 10 Jan 93 15:06:23 GMT
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The following message was created using MS Works and uploaded to OSU
mainframe via modem using Procomm+ and Kermit.  In addition to the
questions contained in the body of the message I would appreciate any
information you could provide on research in progress in theis area
and any other newsgroups that might be of interest.  Thanks.

Message:
Greetings!

        I am about to begin the dissertation phase of my PhD program in Educatio
nal
 Design and Technology at Ohio State University in Columbus, Ohio.  During my
 course work I have become interested in course development software like
 Authorware, Hypercard, IBM Linkway, and Toolbook.  My concern is that, although
 these are great tools for developing courseware, there is a huge bridge between
 the tool and the developer.

        My question then is how does "good" courseware happen?  Is there a taxon
omy of
 competencies that successful programs have in common?  What is most important:
 human-computer interaction, instructional design, pedagogy, cognitive
 engineering, locus of control, screen design, mapping, etc.?  How can this be
 identified?

        With this in mind, I respectfully request your views on how to identify
"good"
 courseware that has been developed using an authoring package and how "good"
 can be (was/is) verified and how to research the question of "How does 'good'
 courseware happen?"  I am reaching out for dialog and ideas in an attempt at a
 kind of brain storming through the network (Netstorming/Brainnetting).

        I am toying with the idea of doing either a qualitative study examining
the
 critical competencies that went into successful programs developed using and
 authoring software or a quantitative study trying to correlate which software
 development tools and education/training efforts yield the greatest benefits
 for development of software.

        Since this is a personal request I would appreciate if you could send yo
ur
 reply to my internet address: sdavis@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu, rather than to
 the newsgroups.  This will also reduce the multiple cross postings that
 sometimes results with this kind of correspondence.  Thank you for your
 considerations in this matter.

Regards, ssd

Stephen S. Davis                   FUZZNAME: Stephen_Davis@osu.edu
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Dayton, OH 45424             Home (513)879-1869
OSU APRTMNT (614)262-3480    OSU Work, Ed P&L (614)292-4872
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Subject:      EVALUATORS WANTED (from ALTLEARN)

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Subject: EVALUATORS WANTED

      EVALUATORS WANTED FOR SOFTWARE DESIGNED FOR DISABLED

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:03:02 EST
From: Master Bob <uunet!sci.ccny.cuny.edu!uccs.edu!rhgattis>

Call for Interest:

   Meeting the Challenge, Inc. is interested in hearing from persons and
institutions who would be willing to participate in a field evaluation of
software developed for an NSF-sponsored project. The evaluation
would be in the Fall of 1993, from about August 93 through Nov 1993.

The evaluation would involve hosting a beta version of our software on a
386 class PC, running Windows, and using the system to identify appropriate
accommodations for students with disabilities.  While the evaluation plan
is not designed yet, we expect to gather information from the participants
on the value of the system in identifying appropriate accommodations in a
variety of situations.

We are most interested in gathering a diverse group of evaluators from a
wide spectrum of educational institutions.  For example, in the current
project, we are working with a 2 year community college and a four year
state university in our local area.  What we are seeking is to expand
the evaluation group to include:

- persons who are very familiar (expert !?) in determining the needs of
students with disabilities and identifying appropriate
accommodations (both assistive technology and other forms of
accommodations).

- persons who are unfamiliar with determining the needs of students with
disabilities and identifying accommodations, but end up doing it anyway.

- educational institutions with a strong science and engineering curriculum
who deal with issues of providing computer access to students with
disabilities.

We are contacting some institutions directly, ones that we know fit these
criteria to some extent.  If you are interested in becoming a test site or
simply would like more information about this project, please send email
to me at the following address:

        rhgattis@uccs.colorado.edu

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