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From: amigamat@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Mark Thomas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Any News on the new Motorola Chip?
Date: 25 Jan 1993 03:38:12 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: donald.cc.utexas.edu

In article <1k1bn6INNau@newsman.csu.murdoch.edu.au> meek@csu.murdoch.edu.au (Lindsay Meek) writes:
>won@cs.columbia.edu (Won Y. Kim) writes:
>
>>In article <hanscs.74.727431258@dhhalden.no> hanscs@dhhalden.no (HANS CHRISTIAN SANDER) writes:
>>[stuff deletedp
>>>>
>>>The 68060 will be released(Amiga Computing) late 93. And will do aprox. 100 
>>>MIPS at 25 MHz.
>>>
>>Hmm, How  can this be ?? Is the 060 a multi processor in one?
>>At a clock speed of 25 Mhz, the most a "normal" cpu (that I am aware of)
>>can execute at most 25 million instructions per second.
>
>>The # is usually smaller unless the code can utilize the pipleline 100 % (not
>>bloody likely!!)
>
>	They might have increased the width of the data bus. This would allow
>/explain the 4x speed up at the same clock speed. However, the current state
>of-the-art in VLIW (Very Large Instruction word) designs requires that you
>have a customised code generator on your compiler to schedule the other three
>instruction units correctly. I think some of the new workstations use VLIW (?)./

68060 key features:

* Superscaler implementation of the M68000 architecture
* IEEE compatible floating point
* 8k instruction and 8k data caches
* Branching target cache to minimize branch latency
* Four entry write posting buffer
* Bus snooping to maintain cache coherency
* Full 32 nit non-multiplexed address and data busses
* Low power mode for portable operation

BTC (Branch Target Cache)
The 68060 has a logically addressed 256 entry cache which associates branch
instruction addresses with their corresponding branch target address.
Correctly predicted taken branches execute in 0 clocks.  Correclty predicted
not taken branches execute in 1 clock.

IEC (Instruction Execution Controller)
Has dual integer execution pipelines which allow simultaneous instruction
execution.  Floatint point instructions are passed the the internal FPU.
Most integer instructions are designed to execute in one clock.

FPU (Floating Point Unit)
The FPU is 100% compatible witht the 68040 programming model.

At 50 MHz, the 68060 will offer more than three times the performance
of a 25MHz 68040, but maintains code campatibilty.

(Paraphrased from CTACS Monitor, the newsletter of the Central Texas
Amiga Computer Society.)

Mark
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From: nugget@genesis.nred.ma.us (Ralph Barbagallo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Help with PowerGlove...
Date: 21 Jan 93 08:26:38 GMT
Organization: Genesis Public Access Minix  +1 508 664 0149

In article <1993Jan20.232738.27734@doug.cae.wisc.edu> pochanay@cae.wisc.edu (Adisak Pochanayon) writes:
>
>     I have recently built the |PowerGlove to Amiga connector that's described
>in Amazing Tech.  I have gotten it to work (barely) on my 68000 but it won't
>work at all accelerated.  Please help. I'd like to write my own software.
>I'd appreciate any specs on the PowerGlove etc.  If this project works out, I
>will post a summary for all interested so help will benefit all.
>Please e-mail pochanay@cae.wisc.edu.
>

  Is this in the current issue of Amazing Tech?  I may just pick it up.  BTW
there is a guy on Sci.Virtual-Worlds that is selling a Universal Amiga/Mac/IBM
Power Glove/SEGA Glasses adapter for $95.  However we don't need the SEGA
glasses since we have the X-Specs right?  

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: chsieh@Ingres.COM (Chemin Hsieh)
Subject: HD floppy on A3000 problems
Keywords: HD floppy
Reply-To: chsieh@Ingres.COM (Chemin Hsieh)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:21:56 GMT


I recently bought a HD floppy for my A3000.  After changing the jumper 
on the motherboard and the jumper on the drive itself to be df1, the
machine boots fine and both drives are accessible (the HD floppy and
the regular LD one that came with the 3000).  They both read, write,
and format DSDD floppies fine.  Now for the problem.  I had bought
HD floppies some time ago anticipating this purchase, and had formatted
them with the LD drive.  The new HD drive cannot read these disks,
which is to be expected, as the drive detects the hole in the disk
and expects high density, so it spins at half speed.  But when I try
to reformat such a disk, it either complains about bad sectors and
aborts the format, or finishes (after stuttering on some tracks) but
the disk is only 880K!  What's up?  I read in this group that you just
format a disk and voila!  It's 1.76M.  Is this true (and therefore,
I have a bad drive)?  Or do I need to do something funky with a
mountlist entry?  Or does formatting an HD disk with an LD drive screw
up the disk such that it can't be reformatted with an HD drive?

Of course, the quickest test of the third hypothesis would be to put
a brand new floppy in the HD drive and format it.  Unfortunately, being
the pack rat that I am, I filled all my floppies with stuff.  I just
wondered if anyone had any answers before I go track down some more
HD disks.  Thanks for any help.

Matt (reply to this account or to mguthrie@cedar.az05.bull.com)
From: jperkski@kentcomm.uucp (Jim Perkowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A1200 -IDE Cable 2.5 -> 3.5
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:10:28 GMT
Organization: Privately owned and operated UUCP site.
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1993Jan21.114706.2957@informatik.uni-bremen.de> mk@einstein.informatik.Uni-Bremen.DE (Michael Kloss) writes:
>
>
> HI ALL !
>
> I'm now a owner of a A1200 too !!!!!!
>
> I waited a long time for it, because I can't get one
> in Germany. BUT NOW........ :-)
>
> My first problem is that my A1200 doesn't have a Monitor-
> Cabel from 23 Pol to 15 Pol. WHY ????? Is the Price so high
> for C=, and I must buy this one by myself ? Or can someone
> here descript me the pins ?
>
> Now my second Problem : I have read that I need a cabel
> from my 2.5 IDE Port to a 3.5 HD-Drive. I called a lot of
> people, but no one know that cable !
> So can a people here descript me how I build one by myself, PLEASE !
>

If you have not bought the IDE hard drive yet why not just buy a 2.5" IDE?
Then you will be able to use a standard 44 pin laptop IDE cable. But if you
have already purchased the 3.5" IDE drive you could possibley get a 44 pin
to 40pin adaptor. A friend of mine got one with his Maxtor 2585A. It has a
standard 40 pin IDE socket on it with a standard 4 pin power connector.

Good luck with your endeavor. Jim

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: torrunes@idt.unit.no (Tor Rune Skoglund)
Subject: Re: Kickstart 2.5 ROM chip?
Reply-To: torrunes@idt.unit.no (Tor Rune Skoglund)
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 20:21:10 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.024550.8242@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, larsent@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (LARSEN  TORE HOIVAAG) writes:
|> mchandy@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu writes:
|> 
|> >I have heard that The Grapevine Group, sellers of Amiga custom chips here in
|> >the US, are distributing a Kickstart 2.5 chip.  They claim this chip allows
|> >the use of high-density floppies.  They are selling this chip for $39.95
|> >(as compared to $34.95 for KS2.0).
|> 
|> >My question is: is there such a chip or is this just a new software upgrade?
|> >And if there is such a chip, should I purchase this one in-lieu of a KS2.0
|> >chip? (I am still running 1.3, but will be upgrading in the next month.)
|> 
|>  Could this be the KS2.05 chip in the A600 allowing HD-floppies, PCMCIA's
|>  etc.?

There is no KS2.5, so Mike probably means the 2.05 chip.

|> Does anyone know if this would fit in the A500?

Yes, it fits...

|>  The PCMCIA wouldn't
|>  work, but who cares?

It could work if you had a PCMCIA slot... ;-)

|>  Tore :-)
|>  larsent@ucsu.colorado.edu
|> 
|> >Mike
|> >mchandy@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu
|> 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,misc.forsale
From: jonin@netcom.com (Daniel Joseph Oak)
Subject: Re: Mitsubishi Multisync monitor forsale !!!
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:48:39 GMT

Bjorn Stenberg (bjst@sth.frontec.se) wrote:
: kma1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Kashif M Akhtar) writes:
: >   screen size               : 13 inch
: >   horizontal scan rate      : 15 - 38 KHz   ( auto scanning )
: >   vertical scan rate        : 45 - 90 Hz
: >   max resolution            : 800 x 600
: 
: Are you sure about this?
: 
: Mitsubishi Tech Info Service tells me the specs for a 'Mitsubishi Diamond
: Scan 14 (AUM-1381A)' are:
:           Display size:         14 inch (diagonal)
:           Horizontal scan rate: 30-38.5 KHz
:           Vertical scan rate:   45-90 Hz
:           Resolution:           1024x768 (interlaced); 800x600; 640x480
: ...and thus do *NOT* support all Amiga screen modes!

Specs straight from  the operation manual:
Automatic tracking of wide rage horizontal and vertical scanning frequences.
(h)=15.6 ` 36 KHz  (V)=45 ~ 90 HZ
resolution  (h) 800 dots - 500 tv lines
            (V) 560 lines - 350 tv lines
crt 13" viewable

Hope that clears things up.  you might be thinking of a new monitor as the 1381a
is not being made anymore I believe. :)

Oh yeah - This monitor has been proven to work fine with amiga. :) 
All resolutions - including AGA

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: WALLY@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject: Re: Popping Processors...
Organization: University of Keentookey
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:15:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.170427.29107@ra.msstate.edu>
djm2@Ra.MsState.Edu (Daniel Jr Murrell) writes:
 
>Rich,
>  Has anyone had this problem? Oh yeah!  :)
>I have a Derringer board, and for a while there, i left all the screws
>out of my 500 case so that i could easily plug the board back in when
>it gets popped out of the socket.  Eventually, it seems like the board
>may settle down into the socket, but for now, I'm typing lightly, and
>i have a big glob of the yellow rubbery tack-it putty crushed between
>the case and the problem end of the board.  Hopefully, that'll keep
>the board safely in place.  I guess the material is safe, since it's all
>up against my 68000 chip, and it doesn't seem to have fused yet.. :)
>I'm still trying to decide on the "superglue" fix..  Anyone else have any
>other ideas?  What does CSA suggest?
>
 
I don't understand the problem!  :)  I have a MMR (Not a Derringer, but
I would think they are basically made the same)  with the 2 meg ram board
attached to it's side, which makes it kinda heavy, and I've *never* had it
even get a little loose!  It still takes a good amount of tugging to get
it out..  With no supports, either..
 
Maybe the Derringer weighs 8 pounds or something.. :)
 
>Dan
>
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From: davec@comspec.com (Dave Carlton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A quick '060 question...
Summary: related question regarding Pentiums on PC's soon...
Date: 21 Jan 93 08:27:58 GMT
Reply-To: davec@comspec.com (Dave Carlton)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Organization: Comspec Communications - Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Disclaimer: Comspec Communications knows nothing of what I write.

dtiberio@engws10.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio) writes in article <1993Jan19.082830.25788@sbcs.sunysb.edu>:
| In article <C127w0.7wL@mach1.wlu.ca> mart4678@mach1.wlu.ca (Phil Martin u) writes:
| >Is the moto '060 to be 32-bit or 64-bit?
| >
| >I wonder about this because I have heard that the Pentiums (Pentia?) will
| >be 64-bit...
| 
| 	It sure will scream on those 16 bit clones!

It has been said, that Local Bus, ESIA and possibly an undisclosed other
bus standards will be implemented. It's VERY unlikely that anyone will make
a version with a 16 bit bus. Why? They're working on a lower version 
code-named the P-24T which will handle the mid to low range markets.

The Pentium isn't suddenly going to take the place of the 386-486's.
Actually, it CANNOT. It's not a drop-in situation.
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From: matt-dah@dsv.su.se (Mattias Dahlberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: NEC 3d/4d specifications; AGA compatible?
Date: 27 Jan 93 13:07:30 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

John Fieber (jfieber@sophia.smith.edu) wrote:

: In looking for a new monitor, I've found some good deals on the 
: NEC 3d and 4d.  Will anyone out either send me the specs for the scan
: rates and/or confirm that they works with all the signals the AGA chip
: set can throw at it.

As you probably have heard several times by now - the NEC 3D is perfect,
the NEC 4D is not.

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From: jg003b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Outatime)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: DCTV
Date: 22 Jan 93 05:21:52 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <9301201029.aa18306@Bonnie.ics.uci.edu> xlee@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU (_______________________________________________________________________________) writes:

>What is DCTV?

	Quite simply Digital Composite TeleVision. Digital Creations decided
to create a board that could be considered 24-bit. For around $400 retail
this handy little black box is an external device that will achieve 24-bit
color output. Two cables, one plugs into the Amiga's monitor port (has a
pass-through) the other into the parallel port, feed DCTV with signals
encoded into a standard IFF Hi-res 16 colo picture. To a standard RGB
monitor this display doesn't look like much, however, when a composite
monitor is connected to DCTV itself, 16.9 million colors can be displayed on
a 736 by 482 (interlaced) display.
	DCTV differs from other 24-bit devices in
that the video signal it generates is not RGB, but rather a composite
output. It is full NTSC composite output and can be viewed by any composite
monitor. This makes using DCTV really convenient for videotaping 24-bit
images or animations.
	DCTV creates 24-bit images by real-time manipulation of the Amiga's
standard IFF Hi-res output. DCTV encodes color information in the top and
left borders of the image. DCTV sees this code and presents it as 24-bit
composite video. Because DCTV uses Hi-res screens the amount of memory in a
standard 16.9 million color image is small. In fact only as large as a
standard Hi-res file would be. This ranges from 10k to 150k. Obviously
interlaced images take up the higher end.
	24-bit real-time animations can be created as easily as if a Hi-res
animation were being made. This is because DCTV is essentially using the
Amiga's own Chip Ram as a framebuffer.
	DCTV's software is very good. It can read pretty much any IFF image
(even 24-bit). It can write three types of files. 24-bit IFF (500k+), Raw (a
form used exclusively by DCTV 200k+), and Display (10k - 150k standard
Hi-res IFF). Raw is primarily used by DCTV for exact reproduction in quality
of image. 98% of the time Display is the best and smallest file format.
	If this doesn't make much sense, sorry. I'll summarize.
	DCTV takes the Amiga's display and makes it 24-bit composite video
output. That should do it.
	Let it not be forgotten that DCTV is also a full 24-bit digitizer as
well. Images need 6-8 secs. to ge grabbed from any composite source. And
they don't need to be Time Base Corrected.
	Hope this helps.
							Outatime----->
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: tidedu@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (William T. Dedula)
Subject: A1000 Disk Problems, Replacing existing 3.5" drive
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: 24 Jan 1993 17:08 EDT  

Hello All;
I have an Amiga 1000 system and just recently, I noticed that 
I get a read error message when I try to load just about any 
of my programs. I am using the original Amiga 3-1/2" drive which
came with the system. Is it possible that this may be wearing 
out and not working as well as it used to ? I am able to load 
the Kickstart program as well as the Workbench program so I know
the drive is working to some extent. Anyone have any ideas as to
why the system is suddenly unable to read most of my applications
programs ? 

Also ... Is it possible to replace the existing 3-1/2" drive with
a brand new one off-the-shelf of most computer stores or do I 
have to buy it from Amiga ? In other words ... is there anything
special about the drive which makes it unique ? If I can 
replace it with any other one, can someone tell me how I'd need to
set the jumpers (on the drive unit)? 

Thank You Very Much ...

Tim

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From: bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A quick alpha question...
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:45:13 +1100
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

skank@iastate.edu (George L. Hall-Skank) writes:
> kopnicky@owlnet.rice.edu (Lyle Warren Kopnicky) writes:
>>dcc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (David Crooke) writes:

        Comments about Alpha, CMOS and ECL deleted.

>>|> have seen rumors that CBM is experimenting with these chips for the
>>|> machines which will replace the Amiga range.
>>
>>Yes, I have heard that.
>
>      I too have heard this rumor, it would be AWESOME if it turned out
> to be true...

        I may have had a hand in starting those rumours. Just after the
C= exhibition at Pasadina (California) late last year, someone posted
the highlights of C/A's "Future developments" speech, and RISC was
mentioned. I then started talking about an Alpha Amiga (purely wishful
thinking) and things started to snowball. Hey, if C= really do develop
an Alpha Amiga, you can all thank yours truely for the idea. ;-)

        Then again, the rumours you've heard may have come from a
totally seperate source from the discussion I started.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: "al longtin" <al.longtin@canrem.com>
Subject: help!
Reply-To: "al longtin" <al.longtin@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:39:11 EST


 To anyone who knows the specs concerning the Atonce Emulator for the
500 by Vortex.

 I have recently upgraded my machine with a Dataflyer contoller, a
Quantum Pro 80meg, 2 meg ram dataflyer expansion in the contoller, half
a meg under the mother board (a501), and 1 meg chip soddered onto the
mother board with a Fatter Agnus chip.

 I am having serious problems since upgrading my machine to get the
Atonce chip to work. When I boot up the atonce system disk, the screen
turns blue, instead of doing a memory 'countdown'.. And then freezes.
According to the manual, I must configure the memory.. I have tried
every configuration and still nothing.. Please, help me! Is there
something I should be doing first? Thanks.

Al
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From: nugget@genesis.nred.ma.us (Ralph Barbagallo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: 1200 and 1200HD hits America...
Date: 20 Jan 93 13:19:30 GMT
Organization: Genesis Public Access Minix  +1 508 664 0149

In article <1993Jan20.183933@informatik.uni-kl.de> c_feck@informatik.uni-kl.de (Christop Feck) writes:
>nugget@genesis.nred.ma.us (Ralph Barbagallo) writes:
>
>>HEY!  Just called Tenex...they have both the Amiga 1200 and Amiga 1200HD
>>with a 40 meg IDE installed for low prices...  $849 for the HD version and
>>$599  for the non HD version... !!!!!!!!  Comes with Workbench 2.1, mouse,
>                                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^  ^^^^^
>
>Sorry, A1200 and A4000 come with 3.0. Otherwise the new AGA chips would be very
>useless. It is also *very* exciting that C= now ships mice with Amiga's :-)

  Well that's what I meant... oops! BTW, when's 3.1 coming out?  And how
about an external High Density drive?


>
>Yes indeed, the A1200 is IMO the best computer you can get for your money,
>especially, if you haven't much!
>
>>blah blah blah...
>
>>Tenex -1-800-PROMPT-1 !!!!
>
>
>Christoph
>
>(no .signature yet)
>

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From: jperkski@kentcomm.uucp (Jim Perkowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Tape Backup
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:21:15 EST
Organization: Privately owned and operated UUCP site.

In article <Ahmad_Badr.00x6@amigabw.uucp> Ahmad_Badr@amigabw.uucp (Ahmad Badr) writes:
> HI!
> I`m looking for a tape backup that plugs in the paralell or SCSI ports of
> both my AMIGA & IBM and drivers for both machines, so that i can plug it in
> whichever machine I`m using.
> Is there a standerd filing system for tape backups like the ISO for CDROM
> so that I can use the same cartridges for both machines and exchanges
> data??
>      Thanks....  A.B.
>

 You can pick up an A3070 for $349 from the Software Hut in PA. As to whether
you will be able to connect it to an IBM scsi controller, I haven't the foggiest.
But if you are successful, I think you will be pretty much stuck with TAR. You
see you need a program that works the same on both platforms or you will not be
able to restore the data from on system to the other. (ie. You can not use
Ami-Back to restore a tape made with QuarterBack.)

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