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From: terrih@mcnc.org (Terri W. Hardwick)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: I need info on breeds
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:11:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: mcnc.1992Sep28.171124.4747
Distribution: usa
Organization: MCNC Center for Microelectronics, RTP, NC

In article <1992Sep22.164505.3084@menudo.uh.edu> st1pt@Rosie.UH.EDU writes:
>
>This summer I started volunteering at the Houston SPCA. My main job
>is to assist potential adopters pick out their dog. 
>My problem is that I don't know enough about all the
>different breeds to help them pick out the right dog for their needs,
>preferences, and lifestyle. So, I'm trying to compile a collection of
>basic info about each breed.
>
>GROUP, HEIGHT & WEIGHT (typical or average), COLOR(S) & COAT TEXTURE,
>ORIGINS (where the breed came from, what it is/was used for),
>GENERAL PHYSICAL APPEARANCE ( so I can recognize it when I see it),
>GENERAL TRAITS (temperament, special abilities/needs, good with kids/pets?,
>		special grooming/exercise?, indoor/outdoor/either, 
>		anything else someone should know before adopting this breed)
>PRONOUNCIATION ( so I don't make a fool of myself ;)
>
>Amy
>
There is an excellent book that was put together by a very caring person
several years ago, specifically to help animal shelters.  It is the
Project BREED Directory (BREED = Breed Rescue Efforts and EDucation).

There is a section on each breed (over 100).  Each section lists specific
breed rescue organizations and individuals throughout the country.  There
is also a section that describes the dog's appearance, origins, traits,
and the most common hereditary health problems for that breed.

It does not have photos, but it is a source book that I would personally
love to see in every animal shelter.

One word of warning - be careful about guessing what breed a dog might be.
Many mutts resemble purebred dogs as far as appearance, but are VERY
different temperment wise.

There are many mixed breeds that look like Tervuren, but a Husky/Chow cross
would have a VASTLY different temperment.  Another example is Fibber, one
of my previous students.  I thought he was a typical backyard-bred black
Labrador Retriever - until we started training.  I found out then that he
was a Beagle/Golden Retriever cross.  (He was definitely part Beagle!  :^)

If you aren't sure, get assistance from an experienced person.

Project BREED Directory
published by 
Network for Ani-males & females
18707 Curry Powder Lane
Germantown, MD 20874
(301) 428-3675


Terri Hardwick 					(terrih@mcnc.org)
   	Apropos My Tigerlily PT CGC     (Terv)
   	Apropos My Marco Polo CD HT CGC (Terv)
	Meg (Border Collie)

Gone but not forgotten - Siegfried Von Der Niebel CDX            (GSD)
		 U-CD CH Fierami's Magical Mischief CDXTD HT CGC (Terv)
		 U-CD    Calais de la Zia CDX HIC                (Terv)
From: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com (Dillon Pyron)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Please tell me my dog is not stupid
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:34:33 GMT
Reply-To: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com
Organization: TI/DSEG VAX Support


In article <1a9q57INN970@rodan.UU.NET>, lorelei@rodan.UU.NET (Lorelei Horner) writes:
>|I have a siberian husky.  My roommates are convinced she is retarded
>|because she does not always come when told or sit when told.  I think
>|she is just very independent.  So who is right?
>I have the same dog...do we share?? I am convinced that Sasha is not
>stupid, just TOO smart for her own good. I have had huskies in the
>past and it was my experience that until they are about five or six
>years old, they will do what you ask when they want to or ONLY if
>they feel dominated........
How sad, your dogs both suffer the same disorder as mine, Selective Hearing.

"Ivan, come.  Ivan, COME.  Ivan, %$#@&!!! COME!"  ("Oh, me?")
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From: mark@visix.com (Mark Myers)
Subject: Re: Has anyone else experienced something like this?
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:02:02 GMT
Reply-To: mark@visix.com (Mark Myers)
Organization: Visix Software, Reston, Virginia

In article <1992Sep28.051634.8743@csc.canberra.edu.au>, Stacey Curtis <sec@softserver.canberra.edu.au> writes:

[clothes burying incident omitted]

|> Other than this incident, Malibu's pushed me out of bed on countless
|> occasions, jumps on the chair that I'm about to sit in and pushes between
|> me and Hubby when we hug.  I've grown used to the fact that she doesn't
|> like me.  Has anyone else experienced something like this?
|> 
|> Stacey.

Our year-old Yellow Lab "Nemo" exibits similar behavior vis a vis 
"Mr. Ed," our cat. Nemo and Ed really like each other (Ed's a 
rough-and-tumble 20-pounder and actually plays with Nemo 
sometimes), but when I brush Ed or get real affectionate with 
him, Nemo gets jealous and tries to get in between us, even to 
the point of trying to get in my lap if I'm lying on the floow! 
When this happens, I  put Nemo in down-stay mode and he just 
has to tough it out. He also exhibits the pushing between behavior 
when my wife and I hug, especially if one of us has just come in the 
house. I think this kind of self-centered behavior is normal, though 
the clothes-burying incident is a new one on me!
-- 
Myers, Mark - Product Manager/Designated Scapegoat
(mark@visix.com)  Visix Software Inc.  703 758 2725
From: srj@key.COM (Scott R. Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Help!  Bark Bark Bark Bark Bark
Date: 29 Sep 92 05:29:16 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Advanced Systems, Fremont CA

Hello again,

I'm back, with more questions about my Spitz/Border Collie cross.  It seems
she has a couple annoying habits, and I'm trying to correct them; what's 
the collective net.wisdom on my methodology?

1)  insists on being watched while eating
    (she only insists this of me, not my SO)
    Giving her food, giving her 15-30 minutes to eat (taking care to NOT
      be in the area during suppertime) and retrieving the 1/8 to 1/4 eaten
      bowl of food afterwards.  If I'm in the area, she comes and stares at 
      me-- when I come in view of the food bowl, she beings chomping with a
      vengeance...
      - I figure she'll eventually *have* to eat, in order to stay alive, 
        and that'll be the end of the problem.  Whaddya think?  Am I missing
        something in canine psychology?
2)  woofs and barks in order to get our attention
    When she decides she wants attention (she only wants it about 23 hours/day)
    she finds a window that she can see us at, or hear us, or a light is 
    shining through, and barks and barks and barks and barks until she gets
    our attention.  I don't know how to punish her for this (the minute we hove
    into view, she's got what she wanted, and she stops barking) and I've just 
    resorted to ignoring her (hoping the neighbors are understanding)

Any ideas?

thanks,


  

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From: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Kleenex-eating Poodles
Date: 25 Sep 92 16:17:43 GMT
Organization: Stakeholder Relations, NCR Corp in Dayton,OH

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Reply-To: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
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In article <eme-240992161416@eerwin.uoregon.edu> eme@oregon.uoregon.edu
(Elaine Erwin) writes:
>In article <1992Sep24.184612.15124@gvl.unisys.com>, pastor@prc.unisys.com
>(Jon Pastor) wrote:
>> Katie, a 1-1/2-year-old Standard Poodle, will occasionally take tissues,
>> cotton balls, and cotton swabs out of the trash in the bathrooms and shred
>> them.  ............
>> Our friends have a 5-month-old Standard who does the same thing.
>
>Is this a standard poodle fettish thing?  I have an 8 month old standard
>who
>just loves to EAT tissues.  .....................................

Nope. Two of my Newf bitches are always trying to sneak into the bathroom to
empty the trashcan of Kleenex, soap wrappers (Ivory is a favorite), and
other paper products. These two girls are both 7 years old, and certainly know
better! Solution? Keep the bathroom door closed. (Obvious, but effective).
********************
Marget Johnson







-- 

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From: rhh@alice.att.com (r hardin)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Pet Population Legislation
Date: 5 Oct 92 11:32:21 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ



Jon Krueger writes:
>> Thought question: if there were no shelters, what would
>> the figures be for euthanized dogs?

>Down.  By about the same numbers as the increase in abandoned dogs.
>Anyone unclear on the concept here?  How abandoned dogs die?

There's another concept, that having a ``humane'' society sanctions
the disposable dog, it's institutionalized.  That it affects our
relations to our dogs.  Kindhearted people are attracted to it
by the name.  Donations flow in to handle the ``dog problem'' that's
created.  An institution grows, goes into politics.
From: BWARREN@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: why is my dog dusty?
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:34:02 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

My lab-mix is currently in one of her 'dusty phases.' Her entire coat, along th
e back, looks like it is covered with dust.  I comb and comb but this phase usu
ally runs about l or 2 weeks, then goes away.  Food hasn't  changed, she's on n
o medication . . but the weather has certainly changed.  Could that be it? coul
d it just be dry skin? When I rough up her coat, there is not an abundance of f
laking evident along the skin, though.  Could this be a symptom of something mo
re serious internally? I'll just keep combing and combing my mean-and-lean-hair
-machine .. but did wonder if any of you could shed (no pun intended) any light
 on this curiosity.
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From: smm1@troy.uucp (22142-michelson)
Subject: Re: AKC Papers
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 12:32:38 GMT

In article <15843@mindlink.bc.ca> Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop) writes:
>> Chris D Iacovelli writes:
>> I committed the sin of buying a Boston Terrier from a pet shop. Before I
>> get flamed, yes he was overpriced, yes I did not see the breeding parents to
>> determine the temperment, and yes I know I probably have supported a
>> puppy mill, BUT, he is so cute and affectionate that when I looked at him all
>> of my defenses and sensibilities crumbled.
>
>>
>> Not being a previous pedigree owner, I was wondering what these
>> papers will represent?

First, a "pedigreed" dog simply means a dog with parents. It has nothing to 
do with being purebred or mixed breed, though people often think it does.
I believe you mean you've never adopted a purebred dog before. Second, the
papers, in your case, probably don't represent anything, because it's likely
that the puppy mill/breeder from which your puppy came will forge them anyway.

I hope that, on top of a good temperament, the parents of your puppy were
healthy, so that you aren't facing possibly expensive health problems later
on in your dog's life. Best of luck to you and your new friend. If you decide
to get another dog in the future, I hope you will more seriously consider
either a reputable breeder or an animal shelter.



_______________________________________________________________________________
Steve Michelson                |   Paying tolls is like throwing money out
Bell Communications Research   |   the window.
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From: us267384@mmm.serc.3m.com (Steven M. Anastasi)
Subject: Simple pleasures 
Organization: 3M - St. Paul, MN  55144-1000 US
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 03:24:42 GMT

I just had to post this for some unknown reason.

I think one of the best things is falling asleep with your dog
curled up next to you.  She is calm, peaceful and totally 
happy to be sleeping by your side.  

(OK, so its getting below freezing here in MN and a warm dog
in bed is nice.)



-- 
........................................................................
Steve Anastasi	        "Give a man a fish, and you can feed him for
smanastasi@mmm.com       a day.  Teach him to fish and you can tax him!"
St. Paul, Minnesota                 - hey, I wrote it!
From: rhh@alice.att.com (r hardin)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Raising dogs vs. children
Date: 30 Sep 92 12:11:20 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ



Dogs, when they grow, also grow in their relationship to you.
It's a complete relationship, not a substitute for something else.

The kid is looking for a way out.
From: williamsk@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (It always scares me when something looks easy to do.)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Change subject of loose kids to loose dogs
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:49:36 EST

In article <168708957.CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu>, CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes) writes:
> In article <1992Sep25.112445.8946@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com>
> williamsk@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (It always scares me when something looks easy to do.) writes:
>  
>>In article <lc4epgINN7n9@thor.cs.utexas.edu>, clancy@cs.utexas.edu (Daniel J. Clancy) writes:
>>> I also will say that I feel strongly that if you have a dog that has
>>> ever had problems relating with other dogs, then you should keep him
>>> on a lead at all times.  This includes dogs that insist on dominating other
>>> dogs and might scare the owner even though they have never attacked another
>>> dog.
>>>
>>But what about the dog that is friendly,  and runs up to the dog that is
>>on the lead that has problems relating with other dogs? There can still be
>>a problem.
>  
>  
> The friendliness, or unfriendliness, of the dog is irrelavant.  The
> dog shouldn't be running up to other people or other dogs.  If he (the
> dog) does, he is out of control and shouldn't be off-lead.  Period.
>  
Obviously you misunderstood my post.  All I was trying to say was that if 
only those dogs that have problems relating with other dogs (by this I mean
that they are dog agressive) are required to be on lead, then the problem
hasn't been solved because the non-dog agressive dogs who aren't required to
be on lead can still run up to a dog on a lead.  The problem still exists -
unless both dogs are under reliable control off or on lead.  Same thing you
said, only you said it more efficiently.  

Doesn't matter anyway, I'll still probably bother someone when I let my 
golden off lead.  He could care less about other people in the park, but
if there's another dog there that he can romp with, he wants to. However,
if you ever are in the neighborhood and want to come to our park, let us
know, and I'll be glad to put him on a lead.  Don't want to offend you ;-)

Kim

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From: jkjncs@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: kimbertal dobermans
Reply-To: jkjncs@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 19:11:19 GMT

In article <1487@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM>, mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM 
(Marget Johnson) writes:
>>In article <92269.182548CR7709A@auvm.american.edu> Christine R.
>>Rasmussen, CR7709A@auvm.american.edu writes:
>>>Does anyone know anything about the Kimbertal Kennel?  I have read their
>>>advertisements in the back of DogWorld and was highly impressed with
>>their
>>>guaratees.  I'm going to write them a letter, but in the mean time, does
>>>anyone have anything to say about them?  How much are their dogs - show
>
>No doubt you'll hear this from others on the net, but Kimbertal is nothing but
>a very expensive puppy mill for Dobermans & Rottweilers. They have been around
>for at least 20 years that I know of, but are interested in only one thing:
>making mega bucks from selling "protection" dogs to the unsuspecting public.
>Although AKC registered, their dogs do not compete in AKC conformation events
>because they do not meet the standard for the breed in appearance or
>temperament. Investigate this outfit thoroughly before investing any money.
>The charge a significant amount for their dogs, and I've never heard any
>one say that the extra money was worth it!

I've seen 1 dobie in the area at local obedience matches & shows; his
breeding is Kimbertal (both sire & dam). The owner is a real jerk and
the dog hasn't qualified in so much as a match in years, but the dog
is a real pussycat. He is also easily the *biggest* dobie I have ever
seen - well over the standard (he is about the same size as the
average Great Dane bitch!). I have also heard that Kimbertal is a
puppy mill, but have no evidence but hearsay.

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* jane jackson and murphy b. lab, Am/Can CD, WC, CGC, TDI  *
* jkjncs@ritvax.isc.rit.edu                                *
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* standard disclaimer applies...                           *
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From: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Subject: Re: Raising dogs vs. children
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Reply-To: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Organization: ICS Dept., UC Irvine
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:28:55 GMT
Distribution: na


Someone wrote:
> 1) You can't leave a kid alone in a crate for 4 hours at a time and
> not get arrested.
> 2) You can't take off for most of the day and just leave the kid a bowl of
> food and a big bowl of water (this is after puppy has grown up, of course!).
> 3) It takes more than a few weeks to potty train a kid.
> 4) Dogs grow up and are nearly mature after a year.
> 5) Dogs don't beg for fancy clothes, car keys, or money.
> 6) Dogs don't have to go to school  or college.
> 7) Dogs don't talk back!
>
> Those are a few, we have a whole list. Mind you, we don't mind kids,
> we just dont' want any right now!!! :) Lots  of smiles included for
> the humor impaired....:-) :-)

In <1992Sep29.235741.24609@odin.corp.sgi.com> bglazier@buffalo.asd.sgi.com (Bill Glazier) writes:

>Reasons why dogs are neat but kids are much better

>10)  Dogs don't smile at you and make your heart melt
>9)   Dogs don't look like their owners (at least mine don't)
>8)   Dogs play a lousy game of baseball (they're great fielders but lousy
>     at the  plate)
>7)   Dogs can't speak English or discuss politics
>6)   Dogs can't have grandchildren
>5)   Dogs can't attend your alma mater
>4)   You can't go out for a beer with a dog
>3)   You have no genetic similarity to your dog
>2)   Dogs can't take care of you in your old age
>1)   Dogs don't like being dressed up in cute outfits

Well...actually...my dog DOES smile at me.  We've got the same color
hair.  She howls when I say Bush'n'Quayle.  She can have grandchildren
(well, until she's spayed of course).  I would hope you wouldn't go
out for a beer with your kids (!).

;-) ;-) ;-)

--Cindy
--
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From: seale@bcserv.wustl.edu (Seale (Jeff))
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Help with neighbor!!
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:18:08 GMT
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bcserv.wustl.edu

We had an incident with one of our neighbors last evening and
need help/advice. We have two male Afghan Hounds ages 2 and 1 1/2.
We recently moved to St. Louis where the only house we could rent
has a nice large yard but only a four foot fence. We have gotten 
along nicely with the neighbors so far. As a result of only having 
a four foot fence we have had to keep our dogs on a 15 foot lead while
we are not at home. The younger one has already jumped the fence. At any rate
a couple of weeks ago the teenage neighbor boys threw a kitten in our
backyard. I saw them and asked them not to do it again. The neighbor
made his son apologize and all was forgotten. Yesterday upon returning 
home, we found that the same kids had thrown green tomatoes at our dogs
because they were barking. My wife went to ask the neighbor about it and he
proceded to curse at her. He threatened to call the Humane society
because they were kept on there leads during the time we weren't at
home. He then said he would call our landlord(the same as his) and have
us thrown out. He then said the next time he would just get his shotgun
and shoot them. We don't like keeping them on leads during the day. 
However, we can't afford an invisible fence right now. Our dogs only
bark at strangers or when they are being provoked(a quality I would like
for them to keep). He also complained that they never had any food or
water. They are fed at night(the only time they'll eat) and they have free  
access to water, unless they tyurn it over. What would the Humane society
say about the leads? How long should they be? These dogs get plenty of
exercise during the evenings and are treated better than most children.
We are really quite stressed about this whole thing and would appreciate
any advice. Post or email to jeff@grserv.wustl.edu  
Thanks,
   Jeff (Sorry this got so long!)
 
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From: paigen@tfs.com (David Paigen)
Subject: Re: Slow Sits
Organization: TRW Financial Systems
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:24:09 GMT

There is another method that I learned to cause a dog to sit.

Use your thumb and first finger to pinch the dog in a tickle spot.
The spot to use is around the spine a few inches forward of the tail.
This medium prevents me from showing you, but put your thumb and finger
on either side of the spine and lightly pinch downward.  I suggest
you experiment some to find the right place.

This causes no pain, but my dog will sit in a flash when I have the
right spot.  I can just imagine his thoughts, "Dad, you're tickling
me again!"

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