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From: kbass@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ken Bass)
Subject: Re: HELP: Where OS/2 2.0 CSD?
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:39:10 GMT

In article <Bu0AJI.23s@news.cso.uiuc.edu> btf57346@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Byron "Bohr" Faber) writes:
>Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>
>>In article <Btwsvx.LHK@news.cso.uiuc.edu> btf57346@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Byron "Bohr" Faber) writes:
>>> Ok.  With all this talk about the CSD I would like to know:
>>> 
>>> Is this something I have to call IBM about and get or will
>>> this be one of those files on hobbes I could grab.  
>>> 
>>> Or even worse.  Will it cost $$$$. 
>>> 
>
>>As OS/2 is projected to sell 3 million copies by years end, I wouldn't blame
>>IBM for getting a bit shakey about a totally "free" upgrade. I don't blame
>>them. I wouldn't mind paying a few dollars for the major improvements the CSD
>>will include.
>> 
>>Perhaps someone closer to the "centre" can clarify this?
>> 
>>Steve
>
>
>> 
>
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>>**** Happy user of OS/2 v2!! ****       | Give yourself a vote that *counts*!
>
>
>Your going to pay for something that fixes a program you already bought?
>
>Smart.
>
>Byron
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Sound a lot like  most other companies. MicroSoft? for example? Borland?

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From: joiner@myria.cs.umn.edu (Jay K. Joiner)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Read only files, HPFS, wrong, wrong, wrong
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:03:18 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In <1992Sep10.050559.5642@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry) writes:

>After playing with GNU RCS for a while I have come to the conclusion that
>the DOS System/Hidden/Read Only attributes for files are a little stupid.

>DOS style (and hence HPFS), you check out a file, but then can not compile
>it because it is read only. This is especially painful when using GNUMAKE

I was under the impression the problem was with GCC not being able to
open read-only files.
From: gjocc@brt.deakin.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 2.0 Backup?
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:29:34 GMT
Organization: C&CS, Deakin University

I am after some recommendations on backup devices and software
for OS/2 2.0

I have considered getting a Insite floptical drive, because it makes for
easier archiving
(you can access data without having to restore it to the HD).
The down side is that you need to swap media during a full backup.
(the floptical media holds about 20MB right?)
What can anyone tell me about OS/2 support for flopticals?

What are the options for cheap cartrige tape drives for PCs with >= 85MB
capacity? OS/2 support? Software?

What about backup software? The OS/2 backup command doesn't really seem
adequate when compared to UNIX dump/restore or VMS backup.
Does IBM have more fully featured backup software for their own tape drive
products? Does IBM have any tape drive products for ISA bus machines?

Greg O'Sullivan
(gjocc@brt.deakin.edu.au)
From: reimert@mamacass.etdesg.trw.com (Scott P. Reimert)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: v13i299: zip19x32.zoo, Info-ZIP Zip 1.9 - OS/2 2.0 version (part 01/05)
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:05:17 GMT
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA

Part 3 of Info-ZIP Zip 1.9 never made it this far. Would it be possible to 
get it reposted please?

			Thanks

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From: mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mike Levis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: FTP addresses
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:20:58 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <1992Sep9.021514.3156@wyvern.twuug.com> bcook@wyvern.twuug.com (Buddy Cook (488-9310)) writes:
>Someone please provide the numeric FTP addresses for the OS/2 archives.
>There's three "hobbes" ftp sites in the list I have, and only one has
>just a few OS/2 files.  Would also like the numeric address for 
>"ftp-os2".  
>
>Thanks...

The following is from the OS/2 FAQL (maintained by the Great TFS).
In order to save time and bandwidth, every OS/2 user should
retrieve the FAQL.  This way, if you have a question, and it is
already answered in the FAQL, then you immediately have the
answer! :-)

:
:ftp-os2.nmsu.edu            128.123.35.151     pub/os2
:mtsg.ubc.ca                 137.82.27.1        os2:
:access.usask.ca             128.233.3.1        pub/archives/os2
:luga.latrobe.edu.au         131.172.2.2        pub/os2
:funic.funet.fi              128.214.6.100      pub/os2
:ftp.urz.uni-heidelberg.de   129.206.100.126    pub/os2
:software.watson.ibm.com     129.34.139.5       pub/os2
:novell.com                  130.57.4.1         pub/os2
:

As you can tell, there are no "hobbes" ftp sites in this list.
ftp-os2 used to be called "hobbes".

ftp-os2 has lots of OS/2 stuff.  While you are there, get the
OS/2 FAQL (filename faq20e.txt) from directory /pub/os2/all/faq .
Get OS/2 2.0 stuff from /pub/os2/2.0 and /pub/os2/all .

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From: hafting@Lise.Unit.NO (Helge Hafting)
Subject: Re: WIN OS/2 and Speed
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 12:39:51 GMT

In article <vanpatjm.716301403@craft.camp.clarkson.edu>, vanpatjm@craft.camp.clark
son.edu (Joker) writes:
 > 	I am pleased to see that there is such a wealth of information concerning
 OS/2 out here in the news! I have a question for all you OS/2 gurus: I run mostly
 Windows programs, and I run them in separate sessioned windows. When I click on 
the icon, it takes >  'forever' for the program to load. The application alsotends
 to run a bit sluggishly.
 > 	I am currently running OS/2 on a 486/33DX with 8 megs of RAM, 256 KB mem.
 cache, and a 210 meg disk. I realize that OS/2 must have a lot to do when one
 requests a Windows program, but the slowness is rediculous. My question, will 
the upcomming CSD possib > ly fix this? It looks as though it will include 
WIN 3.1 code, which is MUCH faster than 3.0.
 > 	Drop me a line, I'd love to hear from all of you.
 > 						- Jason
The reason that it takes 'forever' to start is that you use separate sessions
for all the programs.  Os/2 has to start a windows kernel each time you
start a windows session.  This takes some time, and eat a couple of megabytes
as well.  Using a lot of memory will make everything sluggish, because
of the swapping.
The only reason I know of to run win-programs in separate sessions, is to protect
them from each other.  This can be useful when developing or dealing with
buggy apps, as one nasty windows program is capable of messing up all 
windows programs in the same session.
If your programs usually don't make trouble, run them in the same session.
That way, only the first win-program will take a long time to start.
The other programs won't need to start a kernel, so they will start in
a few seconds.  You will also get less swapping, as you will need less memory.
Use separate sessions only if you have a program that usually mess up
win-os2.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: goyal@utdallas.edu (Mohit K. Goyal)
Subject: Novice user has questions about upcoming CSD
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 00:12:12 GMT

Hello.  I have been reading the messages from people stating that the
upcoming "CSD" might be released as soon as Sept. 21 or at least by
the first week of October, this is much better than the time frame I
previously believed where IBM would release the CSD at the next Comdex,
which is in November I think.

Anyways, I want to know how I will be able to obtain the CSD.

I bought a copy of OS/2 in May and promptly registered it.  I have
received nothing from IBM since then.

Is their a number I should call?  Should I wait for something in
the mail?  Should I wait for something to be posted here?

Thanks.

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: JACKW@lexmark.com
Subject: Win-OS2 causes problems on Gateway 486/33
X-Disclaimer: These views are the poster's and not necessarily those of Lexmark
Organization: Lexmark International, Lexington, KY
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:29:39 GMT

 
I have a Gateway 486/33 system with 8MB Ram and the ATI Graphics Ultra
card.  When I start a Win-OS2 session strange things begin to happen.
Namely, when I return to the desktop from Win-OS2 and try to start an
OS/2 full screen -or- a DOS full screen session, the system takes me
to a DOS full screen session (I see the DOS help line across the top).
When I try typing, nothing appears, but I think that the system is
getting input since I can type 'exit' and return to the desktop.
Even after I stop the Win-OS2 session, this continues to happen.
 
Has anyone else had this problem?
 
Jack Whitford   jackw@lexmark.com
 
 
 
 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: bgraham@yoda.wsu.edu (Brooks Graham )
Subject: Which video card??
Originator: bgraham@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu
Organization: Washington State University!
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 21:45:51 GMT

I am currently using a Diamond Speedstar+ and have available an Orchid
Farenheight 1280.

Which card would you guys recommend for OS/2?  I understand that the
Tseng4000 line of cards aren't currently supported in hiRes modes.  I've
used the Orchid ProII beta drivers with the Speedstar+ and found them to
be buggy.  Is there going to be better support (or better yet, is there
*now* better support) for the Farenheight 1280?  I'm not sure what
chipset it uses and really don't know that much about it.

Any responses (e-mail please) would be greatly appreciated.

thanks

Brooks Graham
bgraham@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: undocumented calls
Date: 4 Sep 92 23:26:15 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <19923.1480.26368@dosgate> "richard anstruther" <richard.anstruther@canrem.com> writes:
>In the article, MS seems to be back tracking a bit.  While at first
>they denied the behaviour, now they seem to be admitting it, while
>maintaining that the undocumented calls weren't all that important
>anyway.  It would be breathtakingly arrogant if it weren't
>so sleazy.

They're not admitting it to be nice.  They're admitting it because
there are now a few books out that document the calls that MS
wouldn't.  MS now doesn't have an advantage in keeping the calls a
secret. 
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From: gregory@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Greg Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: What is a "CSD"?
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:18:14 GMT
Organization: Boeing

>
>I was trying to get away from the notion that the "CSD" part of the release
>would be anything to write home about, so I overstated the case. Yes, there
>are several patches that are still not finished - commga and hpfs come to
>mind. But the point was that we are going to be getting *more* than a 
>"corrective" package; it includes new things, hence a better name.
>
 Just as a piece of info:
    I called IBM support this morning and had a very nice chat with them.
I was told that the "UPGRADE" (not CSD!) should be out later this month
or early October. The lady said that it could be out as early as a week
from now! She also gave me a list of some of the stuff that was included.
    -32 bit HPFS
    -32 bit Graphics Engine
    -Seamless SVGA support
    -Win 3.1 support
    -etc.

I was interested that she said they are calling this an upgrade an not an
CSD. In the same breath she also said that the 1.3 people recieved a free
*UPGRADE* to 2.0....Hmmm She had no knowlege of the FTP suff.....

greg.

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From: jclei@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jason Lei)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: ATI Graphics Vantage related problems.
Summary: 1. errors in diagnostic testing; 2. modem interference??
Keywords: ATI Vantage problems
Date: 6 Sep 92 04:51:34 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

I have two questions about the ATI card I just purchased and would appreciate
any comments.

1.  When I used the accompanying diagnostic program ("test") in a DOS full
    screen session, it reported 3 error messages: subsystem (14203), ram
    (14206) and post ram examination (14216) failures.  Is this normal when
    the test is under OS/2?  The self-testing during system boot-up is O.K.,
    however.  Oh, I did run SVGA ON first before the testing.

2.  I installed the bus mouse coming with the card and set every IO bus to
    16 bit (or auto selection) for power-up settings.  After that, the 
    modem, which used to work with another SVGA card (Zymos), failed to
    respond.  I know this could be due to address or interrupt conflicts
    although OS/2 did not report this kind of error.  Adjusting the 
    switches on the modem to set it from com3 to com1 did not help.  Now,
    the temporary solution to this is to pull out the multi IO card,
    which provides 2 com port, 1 game port and 1 parallel port. Although
    I don't need this IO card now (since I use the bus mouse), I may
    need it for a printer in the future.  

BTW, I am very impressed by this ATI card's performance.  The Zymos card is
simply no comparison.


Jason
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: cnadler@vnet.ibm.com (Cliff Nadler)
Subject: Re: Loading device drivers for DOS mode program
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 00:21:57 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.11b by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: cnadler@vnet.ibm.com (Cliff Nadler)
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

In  <1992Sep14.184035.22832@ra.msstate.edu>  mrr1@Ra.MsState.Edu (mark r rauschkolb) writes:
> 
>   I'm sure this is in one of the manuals somewhere, but I haven't found
> it yet.  I have a program that runs under DOS and has two device drivers
> (that are usually loaded from config.sys).  How do I get these loaded
> if I run it from a (full-screen) dos window under OS/2?

Note: This is for character-mode device drivers only

Copy the Dos Full Screen Object to your desired folder (or the Desktop),
changing the name to whatever you want. Open the Settings dialog, click on
the Session tab, select Dos Settings.

One of the settings is DOS_DEVICE. In the Multi-line edit field on the right
side, put the name of the device driver (and path). DO NOT PUT "DEVICE=" in
there. You can put as many as you like (one per line).

If you want this device driver loaded for ALL DOS sessions, put it in your
CONFIG.SYS and reboot.

FOR BLOCK-MODE DEVICE DRIVERS:

You must boot an image of DOS (or a diskette) with the correct DEVICE=
statement in the DOS's CONFIG.SYS

--
Cliff Nadler (cnadler@vnet.ibm.com)
IBM Federal Systems Company - TEAM OS/2

Disclaimer: This post represents the views of the poster, not IBM Corporation.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: TW.FY4@isumvs.iastate.edu (Timothy I Miller)
Subject: Re: Can I boot off 2nd HD?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 01:56:06 GMT

In article <mdmnhw=.genie@netcom.com>,
genie@netcom.com (The Genie) writes:
>
>I was wondering if I could boot off of a second hard drive.
>I have OS/2 2.0 installed in my 120 meg ide with only one HPFS
>partition, but I would like to install linux to my computer.
>The easiest way of doing this seems to be buying another HD.
>So I'd like to install linux into drive d. Of course, drive
>d would have to be flagged active since I would have to boot into
>linux.  Can Boot Manager boot into drive d?  Thanks in advance.
>
>Gene

    I currently have OS/2 on my second hard drive, and use boot
manager to boot to the partition on which it is located.  It's
formated HPFS, and is 110 M.  I think the thing to worry about is
not boot manager, but whether your new system (linux) can be booted
from something other than the C: drive (for example, DOS can only be
booted from drive C ).  I don't know much about linux, but what you
want to do can be done from the boot manager point of view.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: wjb5106@zeus.tamu.edu (Walter Barnett)
Subject: Re: using .zoo files?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:25:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.142646.8558@riacs.edu>, roelofs@pan.arc.nasa.gov (Cave Newt) writes...
>xtifr@netcom.com (Chris Waters) writes:
> 
>>Having a zoo that runs in a dosbox may be nice for some, but having a
>>(presumably much faster) 32-bit version might be nice for others....
> 
>The Zoo on Hobbes is not a DOS app; it is a 16-bit OS/2 app.  Recompiling
>it would probably boost the performance by about 50% or so (judging from
>Zip).

Actually, the zoo program on hobbes is a bound application.  It can run 
as a DOS program or as an OS/2 program.

_______________________________________________________________________
Walter Barnett        Aerospace Engineering        Texas A&M University 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: eletanjm@nuscc.nus.sg (TAN JIN MENG)
Subject: Re: OS/2 wants to boot from A: every time??
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 16:35:14 GMT

pprior@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul A Prior) writes:
: >
: >I haven't tried this yet. But to cure this and to prevent further occurrences
: >of this, you can also try modifying the  "AUTOSTART" in the config.sys.
: >
: Do I do this -every- time or just the first time?
: 
: 
: >hope this helps
: >
: Thanks.
: 
: 
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: Paul A. Prior    Ban anchors, not reef tanks   "With friends like this,   
: 3rd year medical student		          who needs anemones?"
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Yes, always. Putting just Folders should be OK.

jin meng
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: So what about the Sound Blaster Drivers?
From: cvadr014@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:45:22 PST
Distribution: usa
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-User: cvadr014

In article <1992Sep7.171049.18422@news.iastate.edu>, TW.FY4@isumvs.iastate.edu (Timothy I Miller) writes:
> In article <5SEP199202214228@venus.tamu.edu>,
> tcf9033@venus.tamu.edu (FREY, TONY C) writes:
>> Did anyone find anything about the release of the Sound Blaster drivers?
>>I haven't been able to get on their board yet to ask myself.
>>
>>TCF9033@venus.tamu.edu
>>Tony Frey
> 
>   Well, I've called creative labs quite a few times (1-800-998-5227)
> but it's nearly impossible to get through.  They've told me that
> they are "being worked on," but they don't know when they will be
> done.  That's the best they could do.  Sorry.
-- 

	As I understand it - there is somekind of legal dispute over the 
drivers - with creative labs and who i don't know - but its begining to 
piss me off

---
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Email: cvadr014@vmsa.is.csupomona.edu
Phone: 714-869-7696
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Change fonts in windows
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 17:28:01 GMT

In article <Bu55rB.3DM@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ffujita@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Frank Fujita) writes:
>Okay, how do you change the color in a DOS Window?

Why, as you always did, using ANSI escape sequences.

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Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | Or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP").
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: pprior@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul A Prior)
Subject: Re: OS/2 wants to boot from A: every time??
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 04:05:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.020857.14466@nuscc.nus.sg> eletanjm@nuscc.nus.sg (TAN JIN MENG) writes:
>pprior@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul A Prior) writes:
>: I have a problem with my newly configured OS/2 system -- every time
>: I start it it will load about 1/2 of the desktop and then it will 
>: access the a: drive for about a minute or so before continuing.
>: If I open up the prompts window it has the "boot dos from a:" highlighted
>: but it is not in the startup folder and I tried doing a "refresh"
>: before a shutdown.  
>
>Try doing a left_contrl - left_shift - F1 when the initial desktop
>background comes up and hold it down. This should disable any automatic
>startups.
>
>I haven't tried this yet. But to cure this and to prevent further occurrences
>of this, you can also try modifying the  "AUTOSTART" in the config.sys.
>
Do I do this -every- time or just the first time?


>hope this helps
>
Thanks.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: ant@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (Anthony Murdoch)
Subject: Application to open serial connection and leave it open
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 06:05:15 GMT


Hi,

I was wondering if anyone had a method of making a modem connection to a
service and then leave it open after it exited (ie not dropping DTR).  My
reason for asking is to allow IBM's TCP/IP's SLIP to work with the SLIP
Terminal Server at my site.

I need to be able to make the connection, log into the service, disconnect
from the comms application and then run the SLIP command to make the slip
connection.  Unfortunately IBM's TCP/IP doesn't have any provision for
this (at least not that I can see).

Does anyone know of something that would do this for me ?

Thanx in advance
ant
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc