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From: rost@tecrus.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost)
Subject: Re: Solid State Tube emulator
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 20 NOV 92 12:08:30    


In article <By0FE9.90q@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>, dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning) writes...
>dag@tc.fluke.COM (David Gunderson) writes:
> 
>>According to an article in a recent issue of EE times, there is now a valid
>>solid state replacement for those old 12AX7 vacuum tubes in your Fender amp.
>>Eric Pritchard of Berkeley Springs, W.VA (Metif Corp) has invented a 
>>transistor-based circuit that is an exact emulation of the performance of
>>the vacuum tubes in a Fender guitar amp. This took him six years of research
>>and lots of, what he calls, the equivalent of wine-tasting sessions where
>>professional musicians tested amps made with the circuit against their tube
>>amps. So, expect a "Fender effects" switch to appear on the really expensive
>>amps. in the near future.
> 
>Wasn't there something called a 'Fetron' about 12 years ago that claimed
>something like this?
> 

Yep, a friend of mine had a Boogie he bought in 1980 that had a FETtron
supplied with it (also came with a 12AX7 so you could use either).  The manual
recommended using the FETtron when you needed real low noise (recording) and
the tube other times (live). 

Dunno whatever happened to the FETtrons, a few years later, Mesa had stopped
using them.  

					Brian Rost @tecrus.enet.dec.com

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From: franko@cco.caltech.edu (Frank Filipanits)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: On tubes vs. transistors; a few misconceptions revealed
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:02:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: gap.1eb8j7INNl2e
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: alumni.caltech.edu

There has been much banter on the subject of tubes vs. transistors here;
I noticed a few things that I think need some clarification.  I have been
repairing amplifiers for a number of years, and have seen plenty of tube
AND transistor amps.

The most common failure of a tube is for the vacuum to be breached (the
gases which enter the tube then glow purple, and the tube is "Gassed")

The other common failure mode is a short, caused by mechanical failure
of the structure inside the tube.  

It is patently untrue that a tube has a finite number of particles that are
being boiled off, the idea being that once you run out the tube dies.
Those particles are electrons, and they are supplied by electrical current.
You will not run out of electrons.

While on the subject of failure modes, I'd like to make an observation
based on my experience:  IN GENERAL, when a tube fails, it will either
stop making sound (gassed) or blow a fuse (short) but in general replacing
the bad tube and possibly fuse will remedy the problem.  When a transistor
fails (and oh, yes, they DO fail) it tends to be a more catastrophic failure,
often taking out multiple other components.

And let's talk about prices here, too.  A tube generally costs around $15.
A power transistor costs about half that ($5-$10); a matched pair 
(which is necessary for many transistor amp designs) costs about $30.

It is important to keep perspective on other things too; most tube amps were
built back in the 60's and 70's - transistor AND tube amps from that period
were far less reliable than modern counterparts.  Look at the circuit
construction back then - circuit boards as we know them were non-existent.
Actually, tube amps from that period seemed to weather the years better than
their contemporary transistor counterparts.

One thing tubes don't like is being moved alot;  this comes from the inherently
physical nature of the tube.  But modern tubes are getting better about that,
utilizing mica spacers to keep everything in its place even as it's being
bounced off the back of the band truck.

I realize this sounds like a very pro-tube statement; I don't mean it that way.
But alot of people have misconceptions about tubes.  Yes, you will probably
replace tubes more often than transistors.  But over the long run, you will
probably wind up spending just as much on repair because when your transistor
decides to go, it's gonna take a bunch of other things with it.

For the record, I prefer transistors for bass, tubes for guitar, and the
jury's still out on home stereo...


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From: asarris@engws5 (Alexander Sarris)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Changing the neck...Can I ?????
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:04:20 GMT
Organization: Institute For Theoretical Physics
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Hello everyone....

I have had a Japanese Squire Strat by Fender for about 

4.5 years now...The guitar sounds ok...I never considered changing

anything electric on it (not even installing a Floyd...) 

ANYWAY, I kinda feel that the neck SUCKS !!! I know this for some 

time now, but I wasnt' THAT concerned with it...Speed playing is

not among my interests....But having a  neck from hell really 

constrains me... I found that out last semester, when a friend of

mine living next door, let me play with his Ibanez (Gambale model..) 

WOW ! Was that ME playing ??? Where was all *that* hidden ???

It came down to :" If you manna grow as a giutarist/musician you gotta

                   get a decent neck for your guitar....."

Changing the neck, though is not like installing pickups....

At least in the sense that I dont' no DIDDLEY about it....

FOR ALL YOU PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT KNOW *ANYTHING* ABOUT IT:

1) Can it be done ??

2) Do I need to send the dimensions of the heel cavity to one of the 

  guitar HardWare suppliers ??

3) Any suggestions for a supplier ??

4) Anything else I need to know ????



Please all you people with the Jacksons and the Hammers and the Ibanezes..

Help this guy (and all the other ones like him) get a LIFE !


Thanx a lot .....

Eg: Any Jimi fans out there ???
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: esl10@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ernest S. Lai)
Subject: Re: Finger noise on strings
Reply-To: esl10@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ernest S. Lai)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 20:12:49 GMT

I've found that string lubricants help somewhat in reducing finger noise. 
There are many types out there, though I've only tried Fingerease.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 19 Nov 1992 20:01:51 CST
From: Paul A. Larson <U37673@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: ?: Joe Satriani tour dates

I just recently found out that Joe Satriana is coming to Chicago on Dec. 18.
However, I will be out of town until the 20th and would REALLY like to see him.
So, any info on where and when he will be *near* Chicago would be appreciated.
I would be willing to drive to such places as Milwaukee, Detroit, Madison,
Indianapolis etc.    Thanks in advance-    Paul
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: scotts@cpqhou.compaq.com (Scott Shaffer @ Compaq Computer Corp.)
Subject: 1948 Tiesco DelRay value?
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 23:36:01 GMT

I inherited a '48 Tiesco DelRay about a year ago, and although it sounds
and play fine, I just don't play it enough.  I was wondering, is this
worth anything to anybody?  I heard there was a blues group out of Austin
who called themselves the DelRays (or something similar) after the company,
so I thought maybe it might more valuable than I thought.  The guitar has
a nice neck (no idea on the wood) and body, with dual floating pickups, and
2-way rocker switches for each one (plus Bass and Treble pots).

Any ideas?  

I also inherited a 1952 Fender Champ Amp (black face) that
is in totally mint condition besides the speaker (it just couldn't take
the ages and crumbled).  I replaced it with a spare I had, and the amp
sounds really nice.  It even has the (hard to believe) ORIGONAL tubes!
I'd never think of selling this, as it has too much sentimental value, but
if anybody knows what this would be worth, I'm curious. 

Thanks!

+ Scott Shaffer @ Systems Div. @ Compaq Computer Corp.       +
+ scotts@cpqhou.se.eng.compaq.com + "Flee to me remote elf!" +
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From: ray@eecs.nwu.edu (Jim Ray)
Subject: tube distortion
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:59:02 GMT

Does the tube warm sound come from single-ended preamp distortion or
dual-ended driver/high gain distortion?

If I have a preamp grid at -36V and have a positive excursion of 37V,
then I have single-ended preamp distortion of the positive half cycle
of the input.  Is this what creates only odd harmonic distortion?

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From: dweber@lark.qualcomm.com (Dan Weber)
Subject: RE: Gibson Oddity
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:27:25 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.201232.22509@qualcomm.com>, dweber@lark.qualcomm.com
|>    make and model were produced. Does anyone know how to find out? Also
|>    were there any other Gibson guitars with 3 P-90s as opposed to 3
|>    single coils?
|>    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^--- OOOOPS! I mean Humbuckers! P-90s are single coils!
                       Sorry about that!

      Dano
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black)
Subject: Re: Finger noise on strings
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 17:05:29 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

In article <TMR.92Nov21125331@fat-controller.bham.ac.uk> tmr@cs.bham.ac.uk (Tim Read) writes:
>I have a small problem I was hoping someone may have a solution to.
>
>The problem is that when I am playing certain quiet bits of music on
>my acoustic guitar, that involve a lot of left hand finger movement up
>and down strings, there is an associated squeaking noise made by my
>fingers rubbing against the metal strings. I can limit it a bit by
>licking my fingers before playing the piece, but it is a pain. How do
>others get around this problem? It is not always possible to remove
>my fingers from the string, because the music is to fast.

    If you figure out a sure-fire way to do this, open a guitar school and
make a million!
    Seriously, I don't know of a technique to eliminate finger squeaking
other than to try to lift my fingers from the strings as much as possible.
Even the great classical guitarists like Segovia were/are unable to avoid
it entirely, as listening to quiet pieces will attest.
 
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From: cooper@kdx200.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Re: Changing the neck...Can I ?????
Reply-To: Cooper@KDX200.enet.dec.com
Organization: DIGITAL Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:50:57 GMT


Umm, yeah - you can change the neck....  But if you don't put an Ibanez neck 
on it, it won't feel like your buds guitar.  Ibanez are notorious for having
BLAZING necks on 'em.   Strats is strats is strats.  If you like the Ibanez,
buy one of those.  A strat does not an Ibanez make, IMHO.

jc (With Two Ibanez, One strat and a Gibson)


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From: n8946631@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Keith Kaplan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Keith Richards' tuning
Date: 21 Nov 92 21:01:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Nov21.210105.18308
Organization: Western Washington University

holtslander@skyfox.usask.ca writes:

>Keith Richars uses open G alot (DGDGBD) don't know if he uses
>it in Brown sugar but worth a try.

As an aside--DGDGBD tuning used by Keith Richards is also the way a banjo is
usually tuned (of course, just 4 strings of it).  So next time you're in Jed's
Banjo Shop, pick one up and play "Satisfaction".  They'll love you for it. :)
Xref: sparky rec.music.makers.guitar:351 alt.guitar:10127
From: jmgst26+@pitt.edu (Joseph M Goodwin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar,alt.guitar
Subject: Danny Gatton:  Anything forthcoming?
Date: 23 Nov 92 00:42:07 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.makers.guitar
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: jmgst26@unixd2.cis.pitt.edu

I'm looking forward to a new Danny Gatton release.  Is he working on anything?
Does he have anything besides 88 Elmira St. ?

Mike
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: shinyash@fraser.sfu.ca (Kazuya Shinyashiki)
Subject: Re: YNGWIE MALMSTEEN
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 04:00:24 GMT

Yngwie.  Fuck, can he play fast.  It's too bad people tend to overlook the
other aspects of his playing though.  I mean he plays some slow and melodic
stuff as well.  And when he plays fast, it's melodic as well.  He's been
criticized for not playing with feeling, but how do you guage that?  For me,
when I hear someone play with feeling, it just hits me in the gut, and when
I hear Yngwie play, it does that and it does it hard.  As for his atitude
problem, I know he's said a few things but I don't think it's as big as a
lot of people say.  A lot of interviewers are biased against him and write
negative things about him in guitar magz (the opposite is true too).  So
anyways, the whole point is, Far Beyond the Sun is a completely bitchin'
tune.  Fuck.
-- 
Kaz Shinyashiki                       "If I know I'm going crazy, I must not be
shinyash@sfu.ca                        insane." - Dave Mustaine
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: g_house@goes11.enet.dec.com (Greg House)
Subject: Re: Question about recording a guitar track...
Reply-To: g_house@goes11.enet.dec.com (Greg House)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Colorado Springs CO
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:05:41 GMT


I think a big part of being able to get a good guitar sound on tape directly
from a preamp is using some sort of speaker simulator.  I know someone that
records all his stuff direct using Soldano and ENGL using a speaker 
simulator (sorry, I've forgotten the brand) and it sounds excellent.

I've tried going direct with some things I used to use (ADA, line out of
a Marshall) and it always sounded harsh and thin.

A friend of mine also has a Soho preamp and it definately does *not* sound 
anything like a Boss stomp box when run through a decent poweramp and speaker
cabinet.  I could believe that it might running direct into a board without
any processing.

I saw something from ADA once about how to set an EQ to get the MP-1 to sound
more like it was going through a cabinet when recording direct with it, but I
don't remember any of their recommendations.

You might try something like an H&K Red Box, which is a line or speaker level
direct box that has speaker emulation.  I've heard nothing but good things 
about them from a lot of different people.

Greg
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: andyb@andyb.mentorg.com (Andy Bishop)
Subject: Re: Damage to a tube Marshall?
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:28:49 GMT
Organization: mentor
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

I've owned my JCM900 2x12 50W combo now for about 2 years and I love
it.  I've owned other Marshalls and this is by far the best sounding
Marshall amp I've ever owned.  I've had guitarists come up and ask
what the hell I'm playing through, and who mod'd my amp.  Everyone
that's heard it loves it.  I did replace the 75W speaks with 2 25W
Celestions greenbacks, as well as replace the power tubes and have
the amp re-biased. (The tech had to add some resistance into the
bias circuits to make things happen)  I've also replaced the three
12AX7s, but since they're class A, there's no need to re-bias.

As for you...it would be hard to say what might have been damaged if
anything at all.  I would suggest that you take you amp directly to
a competent technician and have him check out everything from the
pre-amp (12AX7s) to the outputs.  

Give the amp a chance after you know that everything is ok.

Lesson #1: always take a new amp directly to a competent tech
for a pre-use check-up.  This way you won't risk any damage.
("new" amp is this context may also be a new "used" amp.)

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From: larryh@cabezon.uucp (Larry Huntley)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: 1948 Tiesco DelRay value?
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:59:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: cabezon.1992Nov20.165925.10049
Organization: Logic Modeling Inc of Beaverton Oregon

In article <1992Nov18.185111.10839@odin.corp.sgi.com> archer@elysium.esd.sgi.com (Archer Sully) writes:
>In <1992Nov17.233601.18005@cpqhou.compaq.com> scotts@cpqhou.compaq.com (Scott Shaffer @ Compaq Computer Corp.) writes:
>
>*I inherited a '48 Tiesco DelRay about a year ago
>*
>There's some decade deviation here.  The DelRay can't be a '48.  The
>only solid-body being made at that time was the Fender Broadcaster 
>(later renamed to the Telecaster).  '68 or '58 are much more likely 
>for this guitar, assuming that the year for it does end in an 8.

    I'm suffering from either confusion or ignorance, here.  I was under
    the impression that Teisco DelRays were a mid-sixties arrival, during
    the "Everybody wants a guitar; let's sell this one at K-Marts" era.
    Please, someone set me straight - I may have been bad-mouthing a ven-
    erable member of the guitar history, but then examples I have seen
    deserved the bad-mouthing they got.

    What's the truth?

    - Larry Huntley

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From: g_house@goes11.enet.dec.com (Greg House)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Question about recording a guitar track...
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:23:56 GMT
Reply-To: g_house@goes11.enet.dec.com (Greg House)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Colorado Springs CO


In article <1eed4pINN6mm@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ak845@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
 (Ward C. Akins) writes:

|>Personally I prefer to mic my cabinet, one close and one one far
|>to give it that room abiance.  The problem with running direct is
|>you don't get anywhere near the same the tone as a speaker, but,
|>if you have to: you can use the line-out from your amp (NOT the
|>ext spkr out!) if you have one 

There are compelling reasons for many people to want to record direct 
though.  If you live in an apartment, you will undoubtedly want to reduce 
the volume significantly.

|>or you could invest in something
|>like the SansAmp (my friend swears by these) which is a DI box
|>something like Sholtz's PowerSoak or the Hughes & Kettner RedBox
|>Cabinet Simulator.

I believe you're mistakened, the Sansamp is not a direct box.  It is
an amp "emulator" (a distortion box).  Totally unrelated to a Powersoak
or a Redbox, which require an amp.

Greg
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From: bsercomb@neumann.une.edu.au (shadow,,,)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.gnr
Subject: Re: Sounding Like Slash
Date: 17 Nov 92 05:08:33 GMT
Reply-To: bsercomb@neumann.une.edu.au
Followup-To: rec.music.makers.guitar
Originator: bsercomb@neumann.une.edu.au

From article <1992Nov10.154756.21791@lmt.mn.org>, by alexa@county.lmt.mn.org (Alex Alexander):
> A while back, someone posted on alt.rock-n-roll.metal.gnr a response to
> a question about how to sound like Guns N' Roses' Slash when you play the
> guitar.

In Nov. Rain he uses a huge amount of sustain/feedback and non "striking"
techniques.... like instead of playing the string with his right hand, 
he uses hammer-ons [hitting the string hard with the right hand fingers]
or pull-offs [similar, but involves a semi-plucking movement] to make
the note changes sound very smooth. Lots of sliding between notes too. 
I know there is a style which is Slash, but, compare it with other stuff..
It just depends [IMHO] on the song he is playing. A fair bit of the stuff
was written by Izzy so I wonder just how much influence Slash has put into
his interpretation of the music. Just compare, for example with the part
of Break Like The wind [Spinal Tap] that Slash plays... you KNOW it's
Slash, but it's not that definitive. He also uses more than one guitar!
And hence probably changes amp combos when he changes guitars.
From: g_house@goes11.enet.dec.com (Greg House)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Sounding like Slash:
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:33:59 GMT
Reply-To: g_house@goes11.enet.dec.com (Greg House)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Colorado Springs CO


FWIW, I've seen several interviews with Slash, and despite his reputation
for excessive alcohol and drug use (well earned, no doubt), he seemed
soft spoken and intelligent.  He does tend to use an inordinate amount 
of profanity as he speaks, but he still seemed like a gentle easy going
person to me.

I also enjoy his guitar style, but I know it's not for everyone.

Greg
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