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From: trat@amiganet.chi.il.us (Thomas Reamer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: WHICH IS THE BEST FAX MODEM?
Date: 11 Sep 92 06:36:44 GMT
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

In article <6207@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil>, westreic@oc.nps.navy.mil (Eric
Westreich) writes:
>I will need to get a FAX modem by this December. I know that GVP and Supra
>are working on these. Does anyone have a recommendation on which one to 
>get?
>
>-Eric
> westreic@oc.nps.navy.mil
If U are looking for just FAX, I'd go for the GVP Phone Pak VFX.....Man, it;s
packed with features!   It's a FAX machine, answerinf machine, voicemail and
more all in one!!

Any specs on this baby?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: antunes@astro.psu.edu (Sandy Antunes)
Subject: Virtual Memory Exists (GigaMem)!?!
Organization: Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics, Penn State University
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 05:12:55 GMT


So, at my local Amiga store (in Japan), there was a product called
"GigaMem", selling for around $150, which was software virtual memory
for any amiga that has an MMU (A3000 or accelerated other w/MMU).

Straightforward (no point look for tech info on the back of a box), used
the harddrive as memory, says it works well with large animations and such.

This is the first I'd heard of it, anyone out there try it?

sandy

que sera c'est la via
alex@astro.isas.ac.jp
From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: WHAT is THIS?! (bizarre error)
Date: 15 Sep 92 00:03:52 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

In <kehBjuG00WB_0b24UB@andrew.cmu.edu> Steve Neas <sn15+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>>In article <9209131139.AA23562@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> z3kpw@TTACS1.TTU.EDU
>>   ("Wheeler, Kevin") writes:
>>>Argh.  The weirdest thing happened yesterday.  I was trying to connect an
>>> audio cable behind my Amiga setup and in the process I wiggled the monitor
>>> cable amongst the nest of cables.
>>>The screen become "garbled" and the 'puter locked up, so I had to reboot.
>>>Lo and behold, BOTH of the disks in my floppy drives had been corrupted!
>>>So if anyone can please tell me a) what the hell happened
>>>
>>>I've had heaps of experience with Apple IIs, IBM PCs and Macintoshes for
>>>10 years and nothing like this has ever happened.  Guess it is true,
>>>"Only Amiga makes it possible."  Argh.
>>>
>>
>>What happened is that you decided to hook a device up to a computer while it
>>was powered up.  Not a very smart thing to do, and you probably deserve what
>>happened.

>I've heard this warning many times (and occasionally not heeded it).
>So what would this actually do to harm the computer?

>Just curious,
> -Steve-
>sn15@andrew.cmu.edu

I think it causes a power spike of some sort.  (Sort of a mini-surge)  Ever
notice the sparks fly from the plug/wall socket when you forget to turn the
vacuum cleaner off before unplugging it?  Same thing, but to a minor degree.
Computer chips are extremely sensitive to abrupt voltage changes since most
commands are simply combinations of ON/OFF electrical impulses.  When you
disrupt a cable to any i/o device, the computer will detect the change and
ignore it, or get angry and get even. (I think it's part of the union contract
between inanimate objects)

I have noticed that IBM's and Apple ][+'s seem to be less vulnerable to
simple monitor cable switching (used to do it all the time with mine on),
but the Amiga is *extremely* sensitive to such things - like even the modem
being on when it gets unplugged (my IBM clone - no problem) but on Ami - I
thought I killed the serial port.   Again, rebooting was all that was needed
to clear the stray "command" out of the circuit, but *geez* I gotta be more 
CAREFUL!

So there's the non-compu-nerd version of Computer Science... (See Larry Gonick's
books for more detailed information! *grin*  I've learned a lot from him!)
 
Crystal
  ;>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: dusek@rtsg.mot.com (James Dusek)
Subject: Re: More AmigaWorld Lies
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:45:16 GMT

barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
>   I will apologize for stating that the CDTV is dead if and when Commodore
>gives me convincing proof that the CDTV is still alive.  With the two people
>most responsible for the CDTV gone from the company, and with the way the
>CDTV is being marketed (hardly at all), one can hardly call the CDTV 'alive'.

	Like a poor archer you just keep on missing the target. You'll
never apologize, even if commodore comes out with a CDTV-II. You'll
find some way to flame it.

>   You state that I am probably wrong in my statement that there are less
>than 1000 Amiga dealers in the U.S., and then artificially inflate the

	You are wrong in your assetment. You said at the most it was
several hundred, and the way you proved your "fact" was with BS.

>number in order to prove me wrong.  A number of people from various parts
>of the country have come to my defense on this one.  I now have solid enough
>information that there are no places in the U.S. where the Amiga is thriving.

	Wrong, try the subburbs of Chicago, there are alot of Amiga 
dealers out here. 

>For there to be 1000 dealers in the U.S., there has to be someplace that 
>has a whopping hell of a lot of them, and no such places have been named.

	see above.

>and software is sold.  I am not talking about mail-order houses and I am
>not talking about K-Marts and Toys-R-Us's.  

	There are only a few clone dealers out there. Less than 10! I'm
not including those who sell cheap imports. Or those who also sell others
platforms. And I am excluding those whose name began with A-Y, real
store names begin with Z! The IBM is dead because there are less than 10
stores that sell it.
> 
>   What I want is a better Amiga.  I can more honestly call myself an Amiga

	Than buy the hardware for it. You whine about vidio, get a 24 bit
card. Why is it ok for IBM people to use 3rd party harware, and not Amiga
people?

>There are probably plenty of people at Commodore who ahve not been using 
>Amigas as long as I have.

	And what have you put out for it? Where is your contribution to the
Amiga market?

James
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: Jay Miner
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:56:19 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.224340.20024@ncar.ucar.edu> rsc@flower.hao.ucar.edu (Bob Campbell) writes:
>Also, Defender of the Crown on CDTV SPEAKS with a digital recording instead
>of telling you things through requesters - but that's not all: depending on
>your preference setting in WB, it will SPEAK to you in most of the European 
>languages.

Hmm...is this available to the public? Upgrades from the original?
 
Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt Bose "of Biscayzee")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: A4000 problems
Date: 13 Sep 92 14:42:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Sep13.130454.7670@sarah.albany.edu> hibrown@thor.albany.edu (Herb Brown) writes:
>In article <1992Sep13.075420.7780@sbcs.sunysb.edu> dtiberio@libws2.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio) writes:
>>
>>	I am having some trouble with my new Amiga 4000. It doesn't run
>>some programs that ram on my A3000/16, such as Populous II, Deluxe Paint II,
>>Fighter Duel II, Leisure Suit Larry II, Where in the Hell is Carmen Sandiego?,
>>Amiga BASIC, Sybil, some of U4ia's music modules, Notepad 2.0, etc. Running
>>Kickstart 1.1 and 1.2 didn't help either. Also my MAST floppy drive seems
>>to not work very well anymore. If anyone has any suggestions please email.
>>
>>
>>	Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>>-- 
>>      //   David Tiberio  SUNY Stony Brook 516-473-5156 AMIGA  DDD-MEN   
>>     //  bounce-resistant:    dtiberio%libserv1.ic.sunysb.edu@sunysb.edu
>>   \X/	 "Who will PROTECT TRUTH when I no LONGER HERE?!!"  - Jeff Young
>>
>> 	PPPP  EEEEE RRRR   OOO  TTTTT    IIIII N   N      999  2222
>>	P   P E     R   R O   O   T        I   NN  N     9   9     2
>>	PPPP  EEEE  RRRR  O   O   T        I   N N N      9999  222
>> 	P     E     R R   O   O   T        I   N  NN         9 2
>> 	P     EEEEE R  R   OOO    T      IIIII N   N     9999  22222
>
>It's because of your .sig. It's outdated!!! Try updating it by eliminating
>the bottom 5 lines. Now all of those programs will run properly.
>
>Herb
>

And if that doesn't work, your computer may be broken.  I suggest posting an
article to the net asking for donations to purchase a new one...

-- 
Kurt Bose (as in Daisy, not Rose) *  kbos@carina.unm.edu * Make outs, not walks!
Keeper of the R.S.BB FAQ, and Junior Stathead {tm} * OK, so I AM the AntiChrist.
Be kind...don't disillusion the RBI-lovers. * Net.Agent, "Doublin" David Rossing
Less widely published as Noel Steere; less likely to rampage than Gary Huckabay.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: andrey@cco.caltech.edu (Andre T. Yew)
Subject: Re: World of Commodore summary, 9/12, part 2 (LONG)
Keywords: new chipsets, WOC
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:15:43 GMT

sevigny@vlsi.polymtl.ca (Benoit Sevigny) writes:

>Did anybody talked about 16-bit sampling?

	No, they just said sound.  This of course doesn't
preclude sampling at that rate.  I think that if you
want any sort of quality sampling, be prepared to
pay for it.

>I think they should consider an alpha channel, especially if they plan real
>time video play back along with enhanced genlock capability.

	The AGA chipset has 25-bits, 24 for color and one genlock
bit which they said is just an alpha bit.

>Any hint about the functionnality of these processors?  Will they be used
>as general purpose coprocessors or they will port AmigaOS on RISC
>processors?

	Nothing.

>Did you hear about virtual memory and multi-processor support?

	Peter Cherna said they'd like to get together with the people
who make VM stuff right now and try to work out some kind of
solution, however, I think everyone can just about forget
something on the order of MEMF_VIRTUAL.  Nothing on multiprocessor
support, although if they supported some kind of RPC protocol
on their 3.1 network extensions, that'd be just dandy.

>I would also like to know if the 4000 will be upgradable to that 'high-end
>chip set' or if it will be part of a brand new machine?

	Louis Eggebrecht (the person who made the presentation) seemed
to imply that the A4000 is modular to the extent that you will
be able to upgrade your chipset.  Perhaps a Commodore engineer
could comment on the modularity of the A4000 (please)?

--Andre

-- 
Andre Yew                             andrey@tybalt.caltech.edu (131.215.48.100)
From: kensaga@diku.dk (Kenneth Fribert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: SiliconMenus and ToolsDaemon...NOT
Date: 10 Sep 92 08:47:17 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

kensaga@diku.dk (Kenneth Fribert) writes:

>I just installed it last night, and used it with Toolmanager 1.5 without any
>problems yet, I tried with ProPage, Foozle (Fido-tosser/editor), and some more
>and it worked ok, no alert yet for me.

The above needs a correction, SilliconMenus seems to have problems with quick
presses on the right mouse-button, If the button is flicked it sometimes
allert's. This is without the IRIS option, maybe that should be tried out?

Best regards
-- 
|/                 Fido-net: 2:230/41.14    Phonenet: (+45) 31 743 455
|\enneth  Fribert  Snailnet: Nedertoften 39, 1tv,  Dk-2720 Vanloese, Denmark
System currently in use: Amiga 2000, GVP Series II, Quantum 105S, SupraFax v32b
                         10 mb ram, MultiVision2000
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: weigand@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Steve Weigand)
Subject: Mathematica/Derive
Reply-To: weigand@pecan.cns.udel.edu
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 05:07:56 GMT

Just wondering... Does anyone know if there's a public domain/freeware/
shareware program for the Amiga that is similar to Derive or Mathematica?
I'd like the ability to plug in some calculus formulas into it and have
it simplify the expressions I give it and possibly solve them. 

Thanks, 
 - Steve
  (weigand@ee.udel.edu)


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: eas3714@ultb.isc.rit.edu (E.A. Story )
Subject: Re: AA Chipset and NEW Amigas
Originator: eas3714@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:32:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.130735.4241@rdg.dec.com> cadwallader@forty2.enet.dec.com () writes:
>> >>The AA Chipset IS a reality, highest resolution is 640x512x256 (Pal) and
>> >>640x480x256 (NTSC). These new chips willl *ONLY* go into the NEW Amigas and
>> >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >Huh?  So C= has decided to drop the SuperHire modes?
>> >I do not think so.
>
>As hinted, the highest AA res is 1280*512 (8 bpls), being SuperHires 
>interlaced. Needs X4 bandwidth though (top models only?)...
>
>								- JIM CAD*

What about 1024x480 x 4bpls or 1024x768 x 2 bpls?.. Wouldn't something
like that be possbile (I'm talking noninterlaced here), just like the
ECS can change scan rates?
-- 
"THAT is a DRY turtle.  That turtle is NOT moist!"
Ezra Story, a student at RIT, and
eas3714@ultb.isc.rit.edu, his trusty(?) mailing address.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: cs902125@ariel.yorku.ca (SHUK C YIP)
Subject: Re: DCTV - RGB converter?
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 17:38:49 GMT

In article <trat.0775@amiganet.chi.il.us> trat@amiganet.chi.il.us (Thomas Reamer) writes:
>Hey hey!  
>
>     Any news on this handy piece of hardware?  The DCTV to RGB converter is
>supposed to allow DCTV to be used as any standard and 24 Bit display would
>be--Genlocking, etc.  But there is one problem with this great asset to DCTV
>users...The price!  Why is it selling for $225!  Can it be found for cheaper? 
>I think that is outragious!  Two Hundred and Twenty Five dollars!  I am sure it
>did not cost anywhere near that to make.
>
>I love DCTV except for the sloppy composite gadgets, color bleeding in the
>paint program etc.  I would like nothing more than to own the DCTV to RGB
>converter.....Can I get one used?  Is there someone out there that knows where
>they sre selling for a cheap price?
>

Don't buy the converter, it is worthless. It doesn't help the quality of
picture. All the NTSC problem will remain the same. It is good only if
you want to use one monitor instead of two.
From: trat@amiganet.chi.il.us (Thomas Reamer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: HELP!  1960, Flicker Free Video 2
Date: 12 Sep 92 07:34:38 GMT
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

Hey hey!  I own a 1960 multisynch and I purchased and installed the new Flicker
Free Video 2.  Well, everything looks awesome except a couple things...I am
using Jr-Comm now and am in interlace---Heres the problem

The scrolling is giving me a headache!  No joke, I never get headaches, but my
eyes just can't handle the jump jittery scrolling!  Not to mention the font
that is way to small and hard to read!

Everything just looks so bright it hurts!  What can I do?  Is there something
out there that smooths the scrolling, yet doesn't slow down anything?

Thanx!  I waited so long for this FFV2!  Although everything is so sharp..I may
just stop using interlace mode!
From: sest03@csc.liv.ac.uk (Mr. C.B. Cupples)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Disk Mags
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:07:51 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University

Are there any disk mags available via anonymous ftp?

If so, which are the best ones and where can I find 'em?

Cheers.

Chris.
From: h08f@alf.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Faroul)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: PowerPacker
Date: 7 Sep 92 16:53:40 GMT
Organization: Univ. Bremen, Informatik

RPG104@URIACC.BITNET (Don Mac Phee) writes:

>   Here's a silly question.
>   How does PowerPacker operate? Does it:
>  a) decrunch the whole file into memory?
When I use PP, and look at its mem-free, it loads the whole file, allocates
a buffer for (de)crunching and starts its work. The size of the buffer
can be set up in one of the menus (little/normal/large).
>  b) decrunch the file sequentially, not killing my precious 1M. :)
It will only use the mem that is not allocated by any other program.
>  c) Eat small gerbils for breakfast, and do nothing at all...

	Faroul
--
		Henning Peters (h08f@alf.zfn.uni-bremen.de)
	or	Faroul (in Nemesis or PaderMud)
	****	P.O.S.T - People Of Slow Transport    ****
From: terje@light.fipnet.fi (Terje Bergstrom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: ARn100B2
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1992 16:07:16 GMT
Organization: Lightning Inc's Development Corner. Espoo, SF
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

In article <ianm.02st@laghey.UUCP>, Ian Moran writes:

> Has anyone managed to get ARn working with Matts UUCP 1.16D and WB2.04.

  I have.

> I find that although I can post articles I cannot read any. ARn returns
> by simply telling me that the newsgroup is empty (which it is not).

  Did you run Arnmaster ("Arnmaster -A") before running Arn?


  Terje Bergstr|m           Internet:   terje@light.fipnet.fi
  Jukolanahde 4 D 15        FidoNet:    2:220/550.3
  02180 Espoo
  Finland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: torrunes@solan.unit.no (Tor Rune Skoglund)
Subject: Re: Virtual Memory Exists (GigaMem)!?!
Reply-To: torrunes@solan.unit.no (Tor Rune Skoglund)
Organization: University of Trondheim
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 19:57:58 GMT

In article <BuJvpq.88@cs.psu.edu>, antunes@astro.psu.edu (Sandy Antunes) writes:
|> 
|> So, at my local Amiga store (in Japan), there was a product called
|> "GigaMem", selling for around $150, which was software virtual memory
|> for any amiga that has an MMU (A3000 or accelerated other w/MMU).
|> 
|> Straightforward (no point look for tech info on the back of a box), used
|> the harddrive as memory, says it works well with large animations and such.
|> 
|> This is the first I'd heard of it, anyone out there try it?

There was a test of it in Amiga Magazin (German), and it worked pretty well.
Also, there exists a SCSI controller called Evolution/Multi-Evolution for the
2000 and 500 which includes a virtual memory system. Of cource, one will need
a MMU to get it working. 

Feel free to e-mail to me if you want more info about it. 
 
|> sandy

TRS    __
      /// E-mail: torrunes@solan.unit.no
     /// Postal: Tor Rune Skoglund, Linerlevn 7B, N-7022 Trondheim, Norway
__  /// ----------------------- Calvin`s wise words # 1 -----------------------
\\\/// 'Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists
 \/// elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.`
From: stuart@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Lharc for UNIX
Date: 11 Sep 92 09:15:17 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

csirigna (csirigna@thunder.LakeheadU.Ca) wrote:
: I am looking for a LHA UNIX program I could get for UNIX.  There are some
: text .lha files I wish to dload from a ftp site and I don't want to dload
: them to my Amiga.  Is there a better way of extracting the archives with a
: .lha extension.  Also a .lzh .zoo .arc.

Try grind.isca.uiowa.edu /pub/arc-progs

	Zoo210.tar.Z	.ZOO
	lha-0.04.tar.Z	.LHA and .LZH	
	arc-5.21.tar.Z	.ARC
	unzip42.tar.Z	.ZIP
 
: Carmine Sirignano
: csirigna@thunder.lakeheadu.ca

Stuart
(stuart@minster.york.ac.uk)
From: RPG104@URIACC.BITNET (Don Mac Phee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Have you ever noticed...
Date: 15 Sep 92 04:55:10 GMT



   Have you ever noticed that the Amiga crowd is a unique one?

   There is no other platform where one gets to bash, ridicule,
 applaud, whine, snivel, grovel at the engineers who created the
 machine you type on, and still have them come back, unoffended
 and post intelligent replies, to what seems at times to be the
 most unintelligent bunch of hicks in the entire comp.sys newsgroups.

   What surprises me most however is that Marc Barrett let the
 world know he has a friend. One can only wonder at strangeness
 of the Universe. The mind boggles at the concept. But then again,
 Dan Quayle actually made it to VP.

   One other rambling before I head off to slumber...

   Looking at the picture of the A4000, I was wondering where the
 custom chips were mounted. The machine appeared to look like this:

    Front View
+--------------------------+     A=Drive Cage
| B>      =|               |     B=Card Slots
| B>      =|        +-----+|     C=CPU Board
| C> ______|        +-----+|     D=Backplane
+----------+---------------+
           ^           ^
           D           A

   It appeared that the design allows for the upgrade of the backplane.
 My questions are: Is this going to be the future upgrade path for the
 4000? Will I be able to migrate the CPU board and drives into a 4000T
 box that contains nothing but a modified backplane, and larger power
 supply? (Sort of like the Hi-Q Tower, but better.)

 Where are the Custom Chips mounted? CPU board? Backplane, Or did I miss
 something in the cheesy photo (Thank You, to the photographer!), that's
 my only source of contact with what may prove to be a wonderful machine.

   Of course, all of this may be a dream, and the only way I'll find out if
 it's a reality is when =MB= gives me the obligitory snub. *Sigh*

Don Mac Phee
p.s. PLEASE reply to the list, or to PERSONAL_09@Ecl1.Uri.Edu. My account
    administrator has decided to purge this account for a brief amount of
    time, and I may not get your reply! Or you could get lucky.....

p.p.s. Say 'Hi' to my cat, as he loves the flashing screen generated by
      the GURU messages I get from this ^&*(%&^*(& Term program! Sigh.
From: gs@TEETOT.ACUSD.EDU (Greg Simon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: SiliconMenus and ToolsDaemon...NOT (my $.02)
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:56:11 GMT

From teetot.acusd.edu!network.ucsd.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcsun!news.funet.fi!funic!nntp.hut.fi!taltta.hut.fi!s36399s Wed Sep  9 12:46:26 PDT 1992
>I've had some strange lockups & gurus (81000000f and the like) since i installed
>siliconmenus. These don't seem to relate to any single application, but
>the gurus have happened always when either closing or opening a new
>window (quite rarely though). My friend reports enforcer hits every now
>and then.
>In addition to that, gadtoolsbox menus don't seem to work at all with SM
>(no gurus, they just do nothing), and the workbench menu item 'backdrop'
>seems to be the same way.
>I'm not junking SM yet, but soon will if the lockups become less rare.
>(which would be a shame, SM is great esp. on a 1000*1000 workbench)
>
>--
>Harri Holopainen
>s36399s@taltta.hut.fi

Hmmm...ToolsDaemon2.0b has given me nothing but grief--to the point of
which I don't even use it anymore!

When I had it running (even with NO custom tools items albeit
toolsprefs...) it seemed to slow down the whole system.  The most
noticeable effect was when I attempted to drag windows or icons; there
would be a momentary delay and then they would snap into place !!  I
think I may go back to the old ToolsDaemon or ToolManager.

oh--I have WB2.04, A500 68000 w/GVP Q52LPS but who's counting :-)

Greg


Greg Simon
<gs@teetot.acusd.edu>
Electrical Engineering / University of San Diego

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