HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: "bill dehaan" <bill.dehaan@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: ati ultra
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:14:55 EST
Reply-To: "bill dehaan" <bill.dehaan@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

RF>Others who use the ATI 8514a boards, using IBM 8514a drivers, claim
RF>lightning speed!

BD>Really? At  our site,  we find  them identical  to the  IBM boards  when
BD>running OS/2...

RF>The original message was from a user who went from VGA to ATI 8514a,
RF>and found the ATI 8514a to be slower.

Ah, I misunderstood.

RF>I was not making a comparison with IBM boards or any suchlike....and,
RF>the claims of lightning speed are, of course, also in comparison to
RF>VGA and SVGA.

Again, the way it  was worded, it sounded  like you meant that  using an
ATI board with an IBM 8514A driver delivered better performance than  an
IBM 8514A board with  the same driver. I  guess we don't disagree  after
all.

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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Switching display modes more quickly (probably a FAQ)
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:50:33 GMT

In article <92238.104019ANDY@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> ANDY@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Andrew T. Robinson) writes:
>Is it possible to quickly change the OS/2 configuration to a high
>resolution mode (8514, XGA) and back to VGA?  Fast, as opposed to
>plugging the last 10 installation disks in so OS/2 can load files
>which are already on the system!

Yes.  You can simply change CONFIG.SYS.  The IBM OS/2 Installation and
Planning Guide (IGUIDE for short) contains quite a bit of useful
information which should help you get started.

It is possible to get fancy.  For example, you might be able to devise
a system which would prompt for the display resolution at bootup.  I
leave it to the reader to implement, but if anyone would like to
continue this thread with their favorite methods (I've seen it done
many ways), feel free.

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From: clemens@faui8a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Clemens Beckstein)
Subject: Re: using .zoo files?
Organization: Regionales Rechenzentrum Erlangen
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 11:42:49 GMT

sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:

>The ftp-os2.nmsu.edu site is very friendly.  (I helped make it that
>way.  :-))  Read the 00ReadMe file in /pub/os2 and all will be
>revealed.  :-)

Not really that friendly --- if only dir listings would be with file
dates;  everybody would know then whether a file has been replaced, is
new and so on...
this little feature alone (I bet) would save several megabytes
of wasted downloads a day...

This is the only ftp server I know that does not show file dates
when doing ls -al or dir!

- Clemens
Organization: University of Central Florida--Computer Services
Date: Monday, 31 Aug 1992 10:36:32 EST
From: Chris Chew <CCHEW@UCF1VM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Difference between DOS upgrade and full version
 <1992Aug31.095400.13874@actrix.gen.nz>

In article <1992Aug31.095400.13874@actrix.gen.nz>,
Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz says:
>
>In article <1992Aug31.011021.15753@r-node.gts.org> singh@r-node.gts.org
>(Rajendra Singh) writes:
>
>With the DOS upgrade, it gets a bit silly. If you want to re-partition
>your disk for OS/2, you have to do it first with DOS FDISK and re-install
>DOS.....then install OS/2 over the top.......
>
I don't remember having to do this. I just used the FDISK from OS/2 that
was part of the installation process. The FDISK step was an option, and
was necessary if boot manager was used, as far as I recall.


Chris Chew.
cchew@ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu
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From: jjm13@po.cwru.edu (Jeff Murphy)
Subject: Was there ever a REAL fix for the Tseng et3000 problems?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 20:22:25 GMT



I've been gone for the summer, so I was wondering if anyone ever came
up with a fix for the problems with the Tseng et3000 based video adapters.

I'm not talking about all the little tricks with the DOS session settings.
I've already tried all of those, with limited success.  My DOS sessions
are usable, but they still crash if I do something they don't like (like
switching back from graphics mode to text mode).

I also want to know if there's anything that will get rid of the line
of trash at the top of my screen.  It doesn't affect usability, but 
it really looks bad, and gets pretty annoying after a while.

So, were these problems ever fixed?  Will they ever be fixed, or should
I buy a new VGA board?  Are there any recommendations for a good, fast, 
and cheap (< $100) VGA board that will work well with OS/2?

Thanks.

Jeff
From: HARPER@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU (Scott Harper)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: RE: Stuck keys in OS/2
Date: 28 Aug 1992 13:57:39 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

On 28 Aug 92 16:12:09 GMT,
   baldwin@csservera.scs.usna.navy.mil (J.D. Baldwin) said:

>
[...]
>Does anyone else have a "stuck" key problem in OS/2?  I've seen this happen
>in PM, OS/2 full screen, DOS full screen and various apps.  The system
>suddenly behaves as if one or more of Alt, Shift and/or Ctrl are being held
>down.  The keyboard is not sticking physically, and I am certainly not holding
>these keys down at the time.
>

I seem to be having the same problem on my Gateway 2000 486/33c.  The Alt
key occassionally ends up stuck.  I can 'unstick' it by tapping the key,
but that first suprise Alt command can be rather annoying.

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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS2 TO SUN
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:29:49 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <14761.1321.uupcb@compart.fi> mike.walsh@compart.fi (Mike Walsh) writes:
>Thanks to all those who send me replies or mail on my question of
>how to connect OS/2 workstations to SUN machines.
>The answer appears to be IBM's TCP/IP for OS/2 although one person
>(who hadn't used it) also suggested FTP's equivalent product.
>.
>Now for the follow-up:
>We need probably to do this connection to a remote SUN. I get the
>impressions TCP/IP can handle this, is this true and are there
>any problems with remote connection.
>One question that comes to mind is will we need some form of
>X-Windows emulation on the OS/2 side ? Answers to this and any questions
>I've not posed gratefully accepted.

IBM's TCP/IP package includes an X server.  So you'd set your DISPLAY
environment variable to point to your IP address (that you installed
OS/2 TCP/IP with), and X apps will run, with their output on your
desktop.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jeffgus@netcom.com (Jeffrey Gustafson)
Subject: OS/2 and Tseng ET 4000 problems, Help!
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 11:20:22 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Summary: Monitor won't sync to text modes when OS/2 is running the show
Keywords: ET 4000 OS/2


	I'm having trouble with OS/2 going into text modes.  This
happens when I want to run anything full screen (OS/2 prompt,
DOS-OS/2, and Win-OS/2).  The monitor doesn't sync... even when I type
'exit'.  I've run a program call "vdiag" in DOS and the monitor syncs
to all the modes with no problem.  I have a Tseng ET 4000 generic SVGA
board and "Multiscan" (Shamrock) monitor.
	Does anyone have any idea what is wrong?

	Please e-mail suggestions:
			jeffgus@netcom.com
From: mani@linc.cis.upenn.edu (D. R. Mani)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Standard Computer (and os/2)
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:59:13 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <cro.714936834@ennews!socrates.ed.asu.edu> cro@socrates.ed.asu.edu (C. R. Oldham) writes:
>In comp.os.os2.misc you write:
>>I am trying to decide if I should buy this system for use with OS/2 2.0:
>
>>  Standard Computers - Windows Workstation Plus
>
>AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
>
>This machine does NOT work with OS/2--no matter how much Standard
>tells you it will, they are LYING!
[ details about bad experience with Standard Computer deleted ]
>

	I have a 386-33 with 120MB Maxtor HD, diamond speedstar+ (1
MB) and Viewsonic 6 monitor I bought from Standard Computer.  One
aspect seems to be common in all the dealings I've heard of with
Standard Computer Corp.: they lie shamelessly.  I've also had a few
such unpleasant experiences with Standard.

	But the system I have works well and has been running OS/2 2.0
with no problems since May 1992.  I added an extra 4MB to the original
4MB I got with the system.


- Mani

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From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Re: UPCOMING POSTS TO COMP.BINARIES.OS2 (WEEK OF AUGUST 23 - AUGUST 29)
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 00:09:50 GMT

The Genie (genie@netcom.com) wrote:
> >YES IT IS! I am running Telix right now with OS/2SPEED and except for
> >during downloads and big screen redrawrs, the line is very flat and low.
> >It pulses with comm actvity as you would expect an OS/2 aware program to
> >be. Telix has been DV aware for years now.
> >
> 
> That's strange.  I've installed OS/2 Speed and am running Telix,
> but the pusle line stays a flat line at the top of the chart,
> meaning most of the cpu is working on Telix.  What DOS
> settings do you have on exactly?  I've been fiddling with all
> the options but can't get that line to come down at all.

I am not at my PC now, but in all likelihood, i would have background
exec on, comm hold on, IDLE sensitivity and the other idle thing set so
the time is 0 and the limit is set to allow OS/2 to drop the priority
(not sure of the details but read the descriptions and the meaning is
pretty clear). Apart from that, a little memory fiddling and stuff but
nothing that should effect Telix. 

-- 
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From: glenn.frasier@cutting.hou.tx.us (Glenn Frasier) 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: "STUCK" KEYS IN OS/2
Date: 1 Sep 92 03:02:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: glenn.frasier@cutting.hou.tx.us (Glenn Frasier) 

TO: baldwin@csservera.scs.usna.navy.mil

JB>Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
JB>Subject: "Stuck" keys in OS/2
JB>Date: 28 Aug 92 16:12:09 GMT
JB>Organization: Comp. Sci. Dep't., U.S. Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD


JB>Does anyone else have a "stuck" key problem in OS/2?  I've seen this happen
JB>in PM, OS/2 full screen, DOS full screen and various apps.  The system
JB>suddenly behaves as if one or more of Alt, Shift and/or Ctrl are being held
JB>down.  The keyboard is not sticking physically, and I am certainly not
holding
JB>these keys down at the time.

Yes it happens to me too.  please keep me posted to what you find out I
will do the same.

E-mail to stdjtk@shsu.edu or glenn.frasier@cutting.hou.tx.us


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From: stacyl@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Stacy Brad Lacy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: using SHARE under OS2 Dos sessions
Date: 26 Aug 1992 10:21:08 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

I have some software that needs to use SHARE  in a dos window to
allow correct processing of data files.  I have noticed that no
SHARE command is available in the \OS2\MDOS directory.  Compounded wiht
the fact that I can't get my DOS 5.0 SHARE command to work since I
get "incorrect dos version messages" I haven't found a solution to the
problem.

I have looked through nearly all of the on-line help in OS2 and came up
empty handed.

Is there a way to replicate the dos SHARE command in a OS2/dos window?

Thanks in advance!
Stacy
stacyl@matt.ksu.ksu.edu


Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Is this system sufficient to run OS2 well???
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:15:37 GMT

In article <9209031725.AA23913@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu> brown-sh@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (shawn c brown) writes:
>	I have this system and wondered if it would be good enough to run
>OS2 well, not just acceptably.
>	386-33 w/64K RAM cache
>	8 megs of RAM
>	120 MB ISA hard disk (reasonably fast)
>	Trident SVGA display card
>	Non-interlaced monitor
>	mouse (of course)
>	I benchmarked the system board against a PS/2 Model 80 and it blew
>it away, so I guess it's pretty fast...

In a standalone environment, absolutely.  You've got a great system
there for OS/2 2.0.  Trident drivers are available via anonymous ftp
from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: Out of memory error. 6M left though. HELP!
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 12:26:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.082801@axion.bt.co.uk> djackson@axion.bt.co.uk (Dave Jackson) writes:
>
> Yeah, I know - however as I said my swapper.dat absolutely
> refuses to grow
> above its' initial size of 2 Meg, and this is the cause of
> the "Out of memory"
> errors on MY system with the new kernel.
> 
> My swapper.dat usually grew to 4 Meg with the old kernel
> therefore I tried initialising swapper.dat to 6 Meg (bigger
> than I've ever
> "grown" it normally) and the error messages didn't pop up.
> Starting it as 3 Meg
> produced the error message when I opened winos2 and two other
> apps. Restoring
> the old kernel (and swap file size set at 2 Meg)  allowed me
> to open 25 apps
> before I got fed up (by then swapper.dat was 8 Meg in size) -
> and no error
> messages. (Same first three apps used). I therefore concluded
> that the new
> kernel was the cause of the fixed size of swapper.dat on my
> PS/2 - this was
> the only change made.
> 
> I would therefore advise anyone else getting "Out of Memory"
> errors to try
> reinstalling their original os2krnl to see if the problem
> then goes away.

I just tried it. My swap file's initial size is 8Megs. I opened DeScribe,
Bitfax, Excel 4.0, several icon windows and was downloading a file at the same
time.......my swap file grew to 9.5 megs. I then closed down a few of these
tasks and it shrank back to 8 megs. 
 
Seems to work as designed on my hardware......
 
386dx/40 with 8 megs of Mitsubisi 1x3 simm RAM (70ns).
Connor 120 meg hard drive. 
Trident 8900c with 1 meg.
5/5/91 AMI BIOS
 
 
Steve
 
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From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: OS/2 Win3.1 support *better* than MS!
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 12:47:41 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.180325.6305@njitgw.njit.edu> dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
> In article <1992Aug27.141834.18096@ludd.luth.se> bjorn@ludd.luth.se (Bjorn Fahller) writes:
> >In <1992Aug27.122649.21603@actrix.gen.nz> Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
> >>Also, the CSD will be shipping "real soon now"..........:-)
> >                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >My only problem with this is that in my experience, "real soon now" doesn't
> >mean the same in the computer industry as it does elsewhere.
> 
> But in this case, "RSN" wasn't a statement by IBM, but one by Mr.
> Withers.  IBM has stated "Fall", which means (to me) any time between
> September and November.  Unofficial rumors out of IBM are saying
> September, but I disbelieve unofficial rumors from any source.

I *was* joking about the *real soon now*..........

IBM is keeping the release date close to it's chest. The people I talk to say
they have no idea...though the have the CSD on thier machines at work.

Testing. It's a dirty job, but someone has to do it. Also, I gather that a lot
of the OS/2 programmers at Boca have moved on to other things.......that will
not help the speed of development.
  
Steve

 
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From: djackson@axion.bt.co.uk (Dave Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: What has happened to Hobbes?
Date: 2 Sep 92 11:33:06 GMT
Reply-To: djackson@axion.bt.co.uk (Dave Jackson)
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs


Thanks to everyone who replied to my original posting - it
seems that the 
service interuption was only temporary, I can now get at
Hobbes again , as 
hobbes, ftp-os2 and from its address number.

Thanks again for your time,



David J Jackson   Telephone +44 473 645805
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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: OS/2 v2.0 & S3 Card
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:55:37 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.161951.16650@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> ba014@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Matthew C. Brinkhoff) writes:
>Are there any Seamless SVGA drivers for S3 cards out yet?

Not yet.

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From: kenyee@ksr.com (Ken Yee)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Os/2 and Jpeg, viewers available?
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:16:21 EDT

mm459504@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Michael Miller) writes:
>Winjpg crashes when it tries to load big pictures (even if I set DPMI_MEM_LIMIT
>to 10+ meg) so I'm stuck with jpg2gif in a dos box.
  Have you tried sending a bug report to the authors as mentioned in the
  documentation?  I've heard that they've been helpful and responsive to
  customer questions :-)  They can be reached at:
    nyee@osiris.ee.tufts.edu
    kenyee@ksr.com

  Generally, a problem report of the form, "it crashes...it's useless" is
  not too helpful and *posting* such a vague report is misleading to others.
  What kind of system were you running?  What were you doing?  What was
  the test picture?  The documentation has information on filing a proper
  bug report.

 ken

p.s., WinJPEG works for me under WINOS2...although bigger pictures can be
viewed under Windows 3.1.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Problem with new comm drivers
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:18:11 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.104255.13517@donau.et.tudelft.nl> linstee@dutecaj.et.tudelft.nl (Erik van Linstee) writes:
>I tried the new comm drivers and had the following problem. It seems
>that the drivers do not propagate the Carrier Detect signal properly.
>My communications program did not realise it was actually connected.
>Could be I have to change a setting in the drivers' set up, but
>when I reinstalled the old drivers it worked fine again.
>Anybody else experienced this problem?

The MODE command may help you here -- it controls how the various
asynchronous lines behave.  Look in the online Command Reference for
details.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: grichard@swimming.cis.ohio-state.edu (Golden Richard III)
Subject: Re: How do I make OS/2 wait for my HD to spin up?
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 18:01:27 GMT

In article <laird.715538985@stable.ecn.purdue.edu> laird@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Kyler Laird) writes:
[question about laptop hard drive spin-up deleted]


On a related note, does anyone know of 386SL notebooks whose suspend
mode works under OS/2?  Or is there an inherent problem that prevents
this sort of thing from working?


--Golden
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