From: krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us (D. 'krikket' Krick)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: BofA and UW can now support discrimination against blacks and Jews
Date: 7 Sep 92 11:20:54 GMT
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

In article <mccalley.715646775@topaz1>, mccalley@rtsg.mot.com (Phil McCalley)
writes:
>kutem@grouper6.Berkeley.EDU (Jon Kutemeier) writes:
>>In article <mccalley.715623076@lead16>, mccalley@rtsg.mot.com (Phil
>>McCalley) writes:

>Or say... A man and his dog?  Or maybe a man and a young boy of say... 
>six to twelve years old who is in the Boy Scouts of America.  They didn't
>have Boy Scouts, but the Ancient Greeks had no problem with this.  They
>used to have it set up whereby an older man, a mentor, would take on one
>or several young boys and teach them the ways of the world.  One of the
>ways was sodomy and the likes.   Homosexuality was common.

STOP THERE!  First off, there are worlds of difference between Homosexuality
and Child Molestation.  Would it be all right for a father to molest his
daughter or her friends?  It is no more right for a Homosexual to molest a
child.  It is the EXACT SAME THING.  CHILD MOLESTATION. AND THAT'S NOT THE
ISSUE!

>Woman were
>treated like second class citizens.  And everything was hunky dori.
>That is, until the Romans came and conquered them.  And yes, they all
>"loved" each other.  The point is, everyone sees the love.  People just
>don't want adults to "love" their children sexually when they go camping.  
>Camping... I used that one a few times.  It works real good!  The Black and 
>Jewish thing is another story.  So maybe a homosexual and a petafile (sp?) 
>are two different things, but HOW different?  I certainly don't know.  They
>seem like the same league to me (non-reproductive sexual behavior).

They are VERY DIFFERENT THINGS!  Just because a man decides to love another
man, does not mean he is going to rape a child!  No more than a hetrosexual man
is going to rape a female child!

>But... I digress.  My original argument was on deselection, not "why people
>do not want homosexuals to be scout leaders."  Personally, I never liked
>the Boy Scouts.  There were no girls to go camping with.

>><Deleted>
>>As for risk, why would the risk be any greater for a homosexual monogomous
>>couple, or do you still believe AIDS is primarily a "gay" disease, 
>>primarily caused by their "behavior"?

>It wouldn't.  But now you still have the problem of reproducing.  We look
>for success in our mates.  Whether it be good looks, good social skills,
>intelligence, or whatever.  That is what attracts us.  That is what will
>be carried into the next generation.  Homosexuals do not get this.

STOP!  WRONG!  Homosexuals are just as capable of falling for "selective
breeding" instincts as a hetrosexual.  Check your "facts" with reality
sometime!

>What
>attracts you is not something that will be carried into the next 
>generation.  So suppose you have some kind of good taste in mates despite
>your sexual preference (but since you don't have to live with the mate for
>a long period of time, you really cant know if they are good), and you 
>decide on a surrogate.  I guarentee you will be limited in that such a 
>mate would be much harder to find.  

Once again, check your "facts" please...  Do you know how many Gay/Lesbian
couples out there WANT to ADOPT children, but aren't allowed to?  (For that
fact the U.S. now has it's first REFUGEES!  The Govt. decided to try to break
up a family just because the mother was a Lesbian living with her lover, so
they took off to Denmark.)  And besides, take a look at the mericles science is
comming up with, it may not be that much longer now before a man can carry a
child as well as a woman, with some surgery...

><Deleted>
>
>And maybe AIDS can strike anyone, but it mainly strikes homosexuals.

STOP!  WRONG!  Check your "facts" again!  AIDS is being spread faster in the
Heterosexual community than the Gay community right now...

><Arguments based on this incorrect "fact" have been deleted...>

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