From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: re: computer terminology in Greek
Date: 5 Nov 1992 14:56:52 -0600
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filippou@cs.mcgill.ca (Dimitrios FILIPPOU) writes:
> >	English			Greek
> >	-------------------	-------------------
> >	Editor                  EKDOTIS KEIMENOU
> >	Font                    GRAMMATOSEIRA
> >	Desktop Publishing      O KASES 'i TO FTIAXIMO TOY KASE>
> 
> Oi oroi aftoi hrisimopoiountai apo tous ellines tipografous
> Tous gnwrizw apo proswpiki empeiria stin ekdosi epistimonikou periodikou
> stin Ellada (douleva ws diorthwtis otan imouna proptihiakos foititis sto
> E.M.P. :-))
 
Dhladh an o pateras mou einai typografos kserw thn orologia, alliws
thn kaname apo koupes.  kathimerina. Prosekse oti edw milame
typorgrafous, oxi ypologistes.  Eimai sigouros oti oi typografoi exoun
ELLHNIKH orologia pou einai akatalavhstikh stous koinous Ellhnes...
Kai eimai bebaios oti lekseis opws "Margin, galley, underline, bold,
italic, klp" oles exoun nohma kai sta ellhnika.

H idea tou FONT san Grammatoseira einai lathos. To parakatw einai
gramatoseira: anciuynunlqsuiodioliwqjhldoih. Auto einai font: 9x15b.

> Loipon, kai i paragrafos pou dineis ws paradeigma mi-metafrazomenou 
> keimenou, nomizw pws metafrazetai.  To pws kati graftike se mia 
> glwssa me kapoio tropo, den simainei pws prepei swnei-kai-kala
> na metafrastei kata lexi se mia alli. (Elpizw pws tha vrw to hrono gia 
> na epanelthw shetika :-) )

Den eipa na metafrasth olh sta Agglika. Kala tha eitan na kseroun oloi
kai oles Agglika wste na mporoun na to katalavoun sta Agglika. An oxi
oso poio kala kseroun toso kalutero, kai emeis FrangoVlahika Galore.

Dhmhtrh, to vasiko provlhma pou exw einai oti ta Ellhnika einai poly
polyplokh glwssa me thn opoia thelei megalh prosoxh gia na ekfrasteis
un-ambiguously. (:-)). Mia kai den uparxei akribhs kai safhs orologia,
kai oloi empistevomaste mia kapoia morfh FrangoVlahikwn, to perithwrio
lathous logw miscommunications einai terastio. Grafw software 10
xronia plhrwtos twra kai vlepw ti ginetai otan kapoios skeftetai se
polyplokh glwssa kai grafei program specifications. 

Auto einai pio geniko flame sta Ellhnika. To megalutero provlhma pou
eixa kai exw akoma sta Agglika einai oti grafw megales protaseis tis
opoies einai duskolo na katalavoun oi akroates/anagnwstes. Kai den
eimai mono egw. An exeis software san "Grammatic" upologise to "fog
index" enos Ellhna kai enos MH Ellhna kai tha deis ti lew. 

Dhladh den milaw mono gia provlhma orologias, alla gia provlhma swsths
ekfrashs. Vale auto me to gegonos oti POTE den didaxthkame (Gumnasio,
KATEE, EMP) na GRAFOUME panw apo 1 selida th bdomada TEXNIKO keimeno
kai tha katalaveis ti akrivws lew. 

Epishs einai kai (prwsopiko) thema sunhteias. Prin 3 xronia phra thn
Giagia (wife, non-Greek) kai episkefthkame thn Ellada. Ekei eixa thn 
apolaush na milhsw magazi (talk shop) kathws enas eksadelfos mou molis
teleiwse to Masters Statistikh/Oikonomia sthn ASOEE (arketo apo auto
sta Agglika). Enw egw kai autos den katalavainame ti elege o allos sta
FrangoVlahika (regression, ANOVA, :-) h syzygos ta katafere poly
kalutera sta Agglika. Den lew na gurisoume to EMP sta Agglika alla
kalo tha eitan na mporoun oi neoi episthmones/episthmonises na
synenoountai se ikanopoihtiko vathmo se mia EOK-ikh glwssa. (EOK jobs,
joint ventures, foreign companies, etc). 

> Siggnwmi, kale mou pappou!  Sighwra me pou tolmisa kai 
> 
>    (i) xehasa t' onoma sou kai s' apokalesa <<kapoion>> 
>       dihws onoma, kai 

Yes. Being the resident delcoelect.com USENET personality, 'kapoios'
den einai appropriate re paidi mou opws kai na to kanoume.

>   (ii) apokalesa ta sofa sou logia <<ilithia>>.

Ditto. 

> Omws kale mou pappou, me nevriazeis otan milas allampournezika kai
> den mporw na se katalavw.  Me kaneis kai tarazomai pou den mporw na
> metafrasw ta koutsavakika pou 'mathes apo ton ipologisti kai totes... 
> Totes, xehnw, mperdevomai, sigheomai kai lew -- 'i kalitera, grafw --
> pragmata gia ta opoia tha 'prepe na mou valeis piperi sto stoma :-)

Tote xrhsimopoihse Agglika :-) 

> >Spiros "English or Bust"
>
>Ola xekinoun apo to athwo <<data structures>> pou kapoia stigmi to 
>afisame na glistrisei sti glwssa mas hwris na to metafrasoume ws
><<domes dedomenwn>>...

Kai "Trapezes Plhroforiwn"..

> Pappou, sighwra me kai pali an afthidiasa :-(

Not this time. :-)

> O eggonos sou,
> 
> Dimitris

Thanx,

Spiros (33 and a Grandfather already!)
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Spiros Triantafyllopoulos                    c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com
Software Technology, Delco Electronics       striantafyll@kosds1.gm.hac.com
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