From: Adam Costello <nnffnn@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,talk.philosophy.misc,sci.philosophy.tech,alt.individualism,alt.politics.libertarian
Subject: RESULT: talk.philosophy.objectivism fails 173:78
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Date: 6 Jan 1993 19:38:47 -0500
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I am sorry to inform you all that the proposed newsgroup

    talk.philosophy.objectivism
    unmoderated
    For the discussion of all topics related to Objectivism (the
    philosophy of Ayn Rand).

has failed the voting process.

There were 173 yes-votes and 78 no-votes, a ratio of about
2.22 yes-votes for each no-vote.  This satisfies the requirement
that at least 2/3 of the votes be yes-votes.  However, the
number of yes-votes exceeded the number of no-votes by 95, which
falls short of the required 100.

Editorial note:  I am quite surprised that only 251 people in
usenet.land cared enough to vote on this group.

Included below is a list of all the voters, first the no-voters,
then the yes-voters.

AMC

no-voters:
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"(Magnus Kempe)" <Magnus.Kempe@di.epfl.ch>
"Dave V. Schaller" <schaller@hsi.com>
"Eric J. Olson" <ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu>
"JEWELL CURTIS S" <ASCSJ@acad2.alaska.edu>
"James E. Ferguson CSC Sydney, Australia.  10-Dec-1992 1655" <ferguson@gidday.enet.dec.com>
"James M. Leithead" <JMLEITHE%MTUS5.cts.mtu.edu@WUVMD.Wustl.Edu>
"Jason A. Pociask" <POCIASK@maricopa.edu>
"John Berryhill"@udel.edu, "Ph.D." <berryh@udel.edu>
"Kenton A. Hoover" <shibumi@net.bio.net>
"Ronald V. Dziuk Jr." <dziuk@hsi.com>
"Thach H. Pham" <thach@vnet.ibm.com>
Brian Kenney <kenney@saturn.hsi.com>
Charles Shub <cdash@moet.cs.colorado.edu>
Eric Brown <ericbr@microsoft.com>
Erik Naggum <erik@naggum.no>
Jean-Marc Bonnaudet <Jean-Marc.Bonnaudet@ap.mchp.sni.de>
Jimbo Wales <JWALES%IUBVM.bitnet@WUVMD.Wustl.Edu>
Jimgw@sound.demon.co.uk (James Goldwater)
Joel B Levin <levin@BBN.COM>
Karl Tombre <Karl.Tombre@loria.fr>
Kevin THEOBALD <theobald@duke.cs.mcgill.ca>
MORROW@FNAL.FNAL.GOV (Greg Morrow)
Marc Moorcroft <smarry@zooid.guild.org>
Mark Reinhold <mbr@larch.lcs.mit.edu>
Matt S Chamberlain <mchamber@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Michael Quinn <MJQUINN%PUCC.bitnet@WUVMD.Wustl.Edu>
Mike Miller <mmiller@wtcp.DaytonOH.NCR.COM>
Ozan Yigit <oz@sis.yorku.ca>
Patrick May <may@apple.com>
RAVEN Winter <raven@lclark.edu>
Richard C. Dempsey <lrul00@euler.kodak.com>
Scott Michel <scottm@intime.intime.COM>
Simposium Internacional de Sistemas Computacionales <sisc@academ01.mty.itesm.mx>
The Thieving Magpie <MPELATH@ucs.indiana.edu>
andy@homebase.vistachrome.com (Andrew Finkenstadt)
ask@cblph.att.com (Arthur S Kamlet)
berend@contrast.wlink.nl (Berend de Boer)
betsy@quake.sylmar.ca.us (Betsy Speicher)
brent@myka.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Brent J. Krawchuk)
bretth@ecn.purdue.edu (Brett A. Hoffstadt)
brian@audiofax.com (Brian TroxeLL)
carr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Dave Carr)
ch305@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William C. Schirado)
champine@apollo.hp.com (Mark Champine)
deforest@sunny2.dab.ge.com
delaney@xn.ll.mit.edu
dmandl@shearson.com (David Mandl)
emcguire@intellection.com (Ed McGuire)
gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca (Guy R. Thomas)
hurtta@cc.helsinki.fi (Kari Hurtta)
jack@myamiga.mixcom.com
janzen@mprgate.mpr.ca (Martin Janzen)
jbuck@ohm.Berkeley.EDU (Joe Buck)
jduncan@jupiter.nmt.edu (John Duncan)
leonard@bostech.com
lvix00@newton.kodak.com (David S. Ross)
marek@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marek Lugowski)
maus@fid.Morgan.COM (Malcolm Austin)
mcastle@cs.umr.edu
mhpower@stan.mit.edu
mjones@fenway.aix.kingston.ibm.com (Mike Jones)
mozes@wisdom.weizmann.ac.il (Mozes Eyal)
ndallen@r-node.gts.org (Nigel Allen)
ng4@husc.harvard.edu
pauls@css.itd.umich.edu
plutchak@porter.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak)
pseudo!mjn@uunet.uu.net (Murray Nesbitt)
ray@rgm.com (Ray Mendonsa)
raymie@larch.lcs.mit.edu
rdd@cactus.org (Robert Dorsett)
rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
roberson@hamer.ibd.nrc.ca (Walter Roberson)
rwallace@Athena.MIT.EDU
sotero@cs.purdue.edu (Jose O. Sotero Esteva)
sseida@trident.datasys.swri.edu (Steven Seida)
sxn@rand.Eng.Sun.COM (Steve Nahm)
tonyp@ucthpx.uct.ac.za (Tony Putman)
weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)

yes-voters:
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"ANTHONY A. TRIOLO" <aat3720@tesla.njit.edu>
"Bartosz M. Blacha" <bb2q+@andrew.cmu.edu>
"Christian Gustafson" <gus3@midway.uchicago.edu>
"Christopher D. Jensen" <Chris.Jensen@m.cc.utah.edu>
"DiscMan, Sony Fan  " <U28802%UICVM.bitnet@WUVMD.Wustl.Edu>
"James F. Hranicky" <jfh@beach.cis.ufl.edu>
"Karleen S. Davis" <ksdavis@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
"Mark B. Kaminsky" <mbk@fasfax>
"Ole-Ronny \deg}rd" <oleronny@ifi.uio.no>
"Richard J. Betts" <RBETTS@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>
"douglas p martin" <dpmartin@midway.uchicago.edu>
"michael shalom kochin" <koc5@midway.uchicago.edu>
(UMBRA) Black as midnight@iastate.edu,
5G72WHEELERJ@VMS.CSD.MU.EDU
88opensi!sartin@uunet.UU.NET (Rob Sartin)
ACPS7204%RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca@WUVMD.Wustl.Edu
Aaron R Wininger <arw4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu>
Allen French <ICSAFF%ASUACAD.bitnet@WUVMD.Wustl.Edu>
BARANSKI@VEAMF1.NUSC.NAVY.MIL
Bernard Lam <blblam@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Brian E Watkins <watkins@ws5.eecs.uic.edu>
Brian.Hawthorne@East.Sun.COM (Brian Holt Hawthorne - SunSelect Engineering - Norwood)
Chuck Phillips <chuckp@bach.ftcollinsco.NCR.COM>
Craig A Aumann <aumann@unixg.ubc.ca>
Daniel Brown <brown@pollux.cs.uga.edu>
Daniel Faken <absinthe@u.washington.edu>
DaviD W. Sanderson <dws@ssec.wisc.edu>
David Chalmers <dave@cogsci.indiana.edu>
Evan James Torrie <torrie@CS.Stanford.EDU>
Evan Kirshenbaum <evan@hplerk.hpl.hp.com>
Franz Marcolla <ele9102@cdc835.cdc.polimi.it>
George Daicos <george.daicos@canrem.com>
Jan.Broegger@avh.unit.no
Jeff Jackson <jackson@daimler.ucs.indiana.edu>
Jeff Olhoeft <jolhoeft@access.digex.com>
John G. Otto <otto@garnet.acns.fsu.edu>
John Simms <johns@mscs.mu.edu>
Jonathan Dwyer <jonathan@psych.psy.uq.oz.au>
KENNON_LARRY@tandem.com
Ken Knudson <KNUDSON%CERNVM.bitnet@WUVMD.Wustl.Edu>
LOGIN@quake.sylmar.ca.us
Lance_Neustaeter@tvbbs.wimsey.bc.ca (Lance Neustaeter)
Marble <robertee@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
PMSC13SG@umassd.edu
Peggy Beck <beck@math.psu.edu>
ROEKD@morekypr
Richard Carey <carey@dnu3.dev.cdx.mot.com>
Robert Sterling <RSTERLI@american.edu>
Roger Collins <rcollins@encore.com>
Ronald V Picard <picard@engin.umich.edu>
SECSU@ARIEL.LERC.NASA.GOV
Sentinel@cup.portal.com
Special K <urico@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu>
Statistics 445 <stat810@unixg.ubc.ca>
Stephen Dawson <stephen.dawson@canrem.com>
Stephen M Conley <sconley@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Stephen Speicher <sjs@oldhood.hood.caltech.edu>
Steven M Casburn <scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Stupendous Man <BKOTTMANN@FALCON.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL>
Tak Kak <KAK%IBM-B.RUTHERFORD.AC.UK@WUVMD.Wustl.Edu>
Thomas Gramstad <thomas@math.uio.no>
Tom Limoncelli <tom_limoncelli@Warren.MENTORG.COM>
Tomas Ryan  <tryan@Gaillac.McRCIM.McGill.EDU>
Too Cute <michele@wam.umd.edu>
Torkel Franzen  <torkel@sics.se>
UC482529@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu
Vegard Martinsen <simstim@smaug.uio.no>
Xolf-LordOfTheNeverKnown <msubu@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
amc@cics.wustl.edu (Adam M. Costello)
amendola@scf.usc.edu (Dante Alighieri)
atfurman@cup.portal.com
avonisak@mhc.mtholyoke.edu (Princess Amy)
bagwell@ecn.purdue.edu (Philip F Bagwell)
bai@msiadmin.cit.cornell.edu (Dov Bai-MSI Visitor)
bethmo@microsoft.COM
billm@Synopsys.COM (Bill Mullen)
blade@dorsai.com (Terry Hoffman)
bob@esdzap.att.com
bright@hound-dog.cs.unlv.edu
buraas@oslo.sgp.slb.com (asbjorn buraas)
caplanjr@fiu.edu (James R Caplan)
caseys@Athena.MIT.EDU
cc935@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gerrold T. Sithe)
cdt@rocket.sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
cl836@cleveland.freenet.edu (Geoff Stark)
cmcdowel@ecn.purdue.edu (Charles E. McDowell)
cmd1@wuecl.wustl.edu (Chris Dunphy)
cmk@Athena.MIT.EDU
cs177wbn@sdcc5.UCSD.EDU (Powdered Toast Man)
dagny72@acpub.duke.edu (Dagny de la Pena)
damiens@cco.caltech.edu (Damien Sullivan)
dennisbi@tekig5.pen.tek.com
dev@ecn.purdue.edu (Larry Weeks)
dhart@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
doug eastwood <eastwood@brahma.uwyo.edu>
doughe@zigsuni.rain.com (Douglas E. Helbling)
dvoelker@leland.stanford.edu
ets1@cec2.wustl.edu (Eric Thomas Stuebe)
gag65@cas.org (Gary Gorka (gag65 x3514) LIBRARY)
gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
gamble@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bruce Gamble)
gep@boomer.kai.com (Greg Perkins)
ggw@wolves.Durham.NC.US (Gregory G. Woodbury)
gstark@muug.mb.ca (Geoff Stark)
gt7244c@prism.gatech.edu (John G'alt)
gupta@eng.buffalo.edu (vijay gupta)
haney@husc.harvard.edu
heilmayr@math.berkeley.edu (Stephan Heilmayr)
hhuang@Athena.MIT.EDU
hilmera@ucs.orst.edu (Andrew Hilmer)
jcc@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jeremy Caplan)
jeff cook <jeffc@pigpen>
jeff@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jeff Williamson)
jelliott@Athena.MIT.EDU
jg@hope.mtview.ca.us (John Giannandrea)
jjd@teak.cray.com (Jeff Drummond)
jsteiner@anwsun.phya.UTOLEDO.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner)
justice@panix.com (Michael Justice)
jxxl@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke)
kai@ncsa.uiuc.edu (kai -Visitor)
ken@lechter.wustl.edu (Ken Krieger)
kieran <kieran@cmatter.physics.indiana.edu>
lee r vanhorn <lrvanh00@mik.uky.edu>
les@ulysses.att.com
lonesome.com!linimon@uwm.edu (Mark Linimon)
manuel@space.ualberta.ca
mcpherso@macvax.UCSD.EDU (John Mcpherson)
michael@rosebud.llnl.gov (Mike Slominski)
mir@wucs1 (Miranda Galadriel Flory)
miron@extropia.wimsey.com (Miron Cuperman)
mitch@novavax.nova.edu (Mitch Silverman)
mmadsen@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU
moa@leland.stanford.edu (Moa Bones)
mporter@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mitchell Porter)
mrh@centerline.com
musumeci@gpx.lis.uiuc.edu (Gian-Paolo Musumeci)
nancy@genie.slhs.udel.edu
nathan marsh <ST201026@BROWNVM.brown.edu>
pandit@iWarp.intel.com (Milind Pandit)
paul@panix.com (Paul Gatker)
peter@ficc.ferranti.com (Peter da Silva)
pevzner@Athena.MIT.EDU
phillips@bright.uoregon.edu (Chris Phillips)
plucky@ais.org (Chris Adamson)
qarl@wuecl.wustl.edu (Karl Stiefvater)
quinlan@lick.UCSC.EDU
rich@genie.slhs.udel.edu
rjk@world.std.com (robert j kolker)
ronb@meaddata.com (Ron Bauer)
rseymour@reed.edu (Robert Seymour)
rv@cs.brown.edu (rodrigo vanegas)
sageman@cup.portal.com
sas@conceps.att.com
scs@adam.mit.edu (Steve Summit)
sean@cae.wisc.edu
semonche@panix.com (Doug semonche)
shaji@stat.Berkeley.EDU (Shaji Sebastian)
simona@panix.com (Simona Nass)
siphon@momad.li.ny.us (Stimpson J. Katz)
sjsmith@cs.UMD.EDU (Stephen Joseph Smith)
solan@math.uio.no
spurrett@superbowl.und.ac.za
tava@leland.stanford.edu
tom@cpd.tandem.com (Tom Herdan)
truth@sage.cc.purdue.edu (me)
tyadav@Athena.MIT.EDU
uiunix!donz@uunet.uu.net
warlock@esds.mdc.com (Dale Walker)
wchen@math.berkeley.edu (william chen)
weekslb@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Larry Weeks)
whitaker@eternity.demon.co.uk (Russell E. Whitaker)
wtinney@nis.naitc.com (Wilfred Tinney)
zapot@leland.stanford.edu
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