HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: eijkhout@cupid.cs.utk.edu (Victor Eijkhout)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Lightning TeXtures !!!
Keywords: I am amazed!
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:48:34 GMT
Reply-To: eijkhout@cupid.cs.utk.edu (Victor Eijkhout)
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - Department of Computer Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: cupid.cs.utk.edu

In article <1992Jul31.021545.6738@sunb10.cs.uiuc.edu>, epstein@sparc9.cs.uiuc.edu (Milt Epstein) writes:

|> In <l7e56tINN880@utkcs2.cs.utk.edu> eijkhout@cupid.cs.utk.edu (Victor Eijkhout) writes:

|> >(For those of you who havent' heard of LT: it is a very fast -- assembler ! --
|> >implementation of TeX that continually reformats your input and displays
|> >this in the preview window. Every time you press a key, I think.)
|> 
|> Are there any problems caused when you are in the middle of typing in
|> some block of code, so at some points the file will not be complete,
|> correct tex/latex code, and if tex/latex is run then, you will get
|> errors (and the previewer may barf)?

Yes, you do get errors, and no, the previewer does not barf. Kudos to the
programmers at Blue Sky for this. All errors show up in a log window,
and I found this continuous string of error msgs somewhat disconcerting,
but then I clicked shut the log window, and it didn't bother me
anymore.

|> Currently, I use (Ed Reingold's) tex-mode in emacs, so while I'm
|> editing, I have xdvi running, and periodically run latex on the file
|> from within emacs (xdvi automatically looks at the new .dvi file).

Same idea, only not automatically performed.

|> I was thinking of writing some emacs code that automatically runs
|> latex on the file every so often (perhaps when it auto-saves).  The
|> above situation seemed like it would cause problems, though (e.g. if
|> when it runs latex, I am in the middle of entering a block, so I might
|> not have the appropriate \end or whatever, and latex -- and probably
|> xdvi -- will barf).

Quite likely. On an incomplete TeX file you will simply not get
a dvi file. Another synchronization problem:
The postamble of a dvi file contains a lot of information
and although I've seen some previewers (I remember one on the Atari ST)
that could handle incomplete dvi files, most of them give up.

|> Milt Epstein

Victor.
From: mshapiro@nosc.mil (Michael D Shapiro)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Microsoft Word TeX driver needed
Keywords: Microsoft Word, TeX
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:45:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego


I'm trying to put together a printer driver for Microsoft Word that 
will output a TeX file, similar in concept to the driver that emits
PostScript.  Does anyone know of such an existing driver?  Any 
suggestions, encouragements, or discouragements?

Please e-mail responses.  If there's interest, I'll summarize.
-- 
Michael D. Shapiro, Ph.D.            email: mshapiro@nosc.mil
Code 411, NCCOSC RDT&E Division (NRaD)     San Diego CA 92152
Voice: (619) 553-4080, FAX: (619) 553-5799, Autovon: 553-4080
   (Organization name changed from NOSC in January 1992.)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: robertb@tarski.mit.edu (Robert Becker)
Subject: Re: mathematical symbols?
Keywords: natural numbers, real numbers, LaTeX
Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics, Cambridge, MA
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 15:15:27 GMT

In article <4918@tuegate.tue.nl> johan@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Johan Wevers) writes:
>In article <4330@drsrv1.hmi.de> dej@drsrv1.hmi.de (Andreas Schulz-Dieterich) writes:
>>We're looking for the symbols of natural and real numbers in LaTeX:
>>                              __
>>             | |\   |      | |  \
>>             | | \  |      | |__/
>>             | |  \ |      | | \
>>             | |   \|      | |  \
>>
>Try: \newcommand{\RR}{\mbox{I\hspace{-1ex}R}}
>and \newcommand{\NN}{\mbox{I\hspace{-1ex}N}}
>
>If you prefer the symbols in italics, symply remove the \mbox and
>use them in math mode.
>

That's an ugly way to do it.  Better yet, do this:

	\input amssym.def  % This should be in your texinputs directory
			   % and is part of the AMS-TeX package.

Then you can simply do \Bbb N and \Bbb R and have it look nice.
-- 

---------------
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Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: evan@sil.org (Evan Antworth)
Subject: Mac HC stack for BibTeX biblios
Organization: Summer Institute of Linguistics (Dallas, TX)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 19:02:32 GMT

Macintosh Hypercard Stack for managing a BibTeX bibliography

I have written Yet Another Bibliography Stack for BibTeX, the bibliography
system used by the TeX typesetting language. Called HyperBibTeX, it serves 
as a database front-end for BibTeX and permits the expected functions 
including data entry, sorting, and searching. The stack permits full export to 
and import from BibTeX files (so existing BibTeX bibliographies can quite 
easily be imported). I have paid special attention to safegarding the security
and integrity of the data in the stack. The features that I hope will separate 
this stack from the rest of the pack include:

  * mark/unmark cards using the search function;
  * export all cards or just marked ones;
  * authority lists for fields with recurring data (author, journal, publisher,
    etc.);
  * data entry from authority lists by point and click;
  * commands for verifying field contents against the authority lists;
  * a Keywords field with its own authority list;
  * a pop-up annotation field;
  * full support of BibTeX abbreviation strings.

I would like to give this stack to a few beta testers before I foist it upon
the general public (it will be freeware). Please respond to me directly and
I will e-mail it to you (I can't offer an ftp site).

--Evan

Evan Antworth                   | Internet: evan@sil.org
Academic Computing Department   | UUCP:     ...!uunet!convex!txsil!evan
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Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: James Petts <pettsj@visigoth.demon.co.uk>
Subject: re : TeX grammar question
Organization: No Fixed Affiliation
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 07:28:06 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

The reason is that TeX has two types of control sequences: control words
and control symbols. Symbols consist of a backslash (or whatever you
have defined your escape character to be, and one other single character.
Control words on the other hand, consist of a backslash and a series of
characters terminated by a space or another control sequence. When
TeX sees the space it gobbles it up and uses it as a flag to indicate that
the control world has ended. To avoid this, use a control space (\<space>)
or an empty group ({}) immediately after \TeX
From: me12+@andrew.cmu.edu (Marc R. Ewing)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: LaTeX \newenvironment and \verbatim
Date: 23 Jul 92 07:30:54 GMT
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Is it possible to do something like:

\newenvironment{zcode}{\begin{quote}\begin{verbatim}}%
                      {\end{verbatim}\end{quote}}

It seems that, once verbatim is turned on, it never sees the \end{zcode}

Begin a true TeX/LaTeX beginner, I'd like to avoid writing a new environment
from scratch (since I doubt I could :-).

Thanks,
Marc
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: optkap@hp4at.eunet.co.at (Hochleitner)
Subject: MusicTex
Organization: EUnet EDV-Dienstleistungsgesellschaft m.b.H
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 10:06:25 GMT



I am very interested in the Music Macros for TeX.
As far as I have realised there exist two different versions,
sometimes called MuTeX and MTeX. One thing is a result of a german university,
the other comes from France. I have a full version of the MTeX-package from
Germany and like it very much. The main problem is, that this
version as a very serous problem in setting notes in the wright way. Due
to a failure in the metafontfile (noten16.mf), notes starting at h and higher
are always setted without flags. Is there someone who can help me
with this problem or can give me some hints, how to get information about
that?

Also any comments on the two (perhaps there are more?) versions are
very appreciated.

Andreas Hochleitner                                Tel: +43 1 81111 4139
Fa. KAPSCH                                         Fax: +43 1 81111 4156
A-1120 Wagenseilg. 1                           email: andi@beirut.kapsch.co.at
From: krab@iesd.auc.dk (Kresten Krab Thorup)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: backslash
Date: 17 Jul 92 16:31:04 GMT
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University

>>>>> On 16 Jul 92 21:25:03 GMT, me12+@andrew.cmu.edu (Marc R. Ewing) said:

Marc> How do I get a backslash that looks right inside \tt?  The \backslash
Marc> backslash is too big?  I'm looking for something like the backslash I
Marc> see all over the place in the LaTeX reference manual.

You can say {\tt ...\char`\\ ... }  also underscore in typewriter
looks best this way, i.e.: {\tt \char`\_ ... }.  it is the same with
curly braces.  These things should really be handled automatically by
LaTeX. 

/Kresten
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: hcohl@sunspot.sunspot.noao.edu (Howard Cohl)
Subject: Vertical centering.
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 15:26:10 GMT


   Hi Folks,

   In LaTeX, how do you vertically center text on a page.
   (For title pages, etc.)

   Thanks in advance,
   Howie

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From: bkph@wheat-chex.ai.mit.edu (Berthold K.P. Horn)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: And the fontname with |R and |N is ...
Date: 23 Jul 92 02:54:01 GMT
In-reply-to: jafortun@vela.acs.oakland.edu's message of 22 Jul 92 18:40:11 GMT


In article <1992Jul22.184011.21287@vela.acs.oakland.edu> jafortun@vela.acs.oakland.edu (James Fortune) writes:

   msym

   JAF

Actually, you are a little out of date, it is msbm

Berthold K.P. Horn
Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: rjl@fawlty6.eng.monash.edu.au (Russell Lang)
Subject: help with TeX \@... definitions, please.
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 06:25:43 GMT

I am trying to redefine \@oddpage and \@evenpage in LaTeX.
However TeX doesn't seem to be accepting my definitions.
The example file below works for the two definitions without
an @, and for the last definition with an @.
\@oddhead and \@evenhead get confused with \@ when I try to 
expand them later.
Could someone please tell my why?

How do I make the others work?

\def\defone{first definition}
\def\@oddhead{right head text}
\def\@evenhead{left head text}
\def\@anotherhead{another head text}
\def\deftwo{seconf definition}

\@oddhead

\@evenhead

\@anotherhead

\defone

\deftwo

\bye
-- 
Russell Lang   Email: rjl@fawlty4.eng.monash.edu.au   Phone: (03) 565 3460
Department of Electrical and Computer Systems Engineering
Monash University, Australia
From: hoconnel@physics.adelaide.edu.au (Heath O'Connell)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Feynman Diagrams
Summary: feynman
Keywords: feynman
Date: 28 Jul 92 05:52:22 GMT


I recently aquired a copy of the FEYNMAN program for drawing diagrams in
LaTeX. However it is the first version, and the author, Michael Levine, says
he hopes to include extra features (eg scalar loops) in subsequent editions.
Does anyone have any information about the state of the art?

                                        Thanks.


--
		hoconnel@adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au
From: hashmi@cse.uta.edu (Atiqullah Hashmi)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Can I reduce char size(9pt,10pt) in slides using slitex env.??
Date: 26 Jul 92 20:09:36 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, Univ. of Texas at Arlington


Hi netters,
(1)
I am preparing some slides using slitex env. of latex but the text size
i.e. char size is very large and very little text fits on one slide. I
tried something like this in the root file:

\documentstyle[8pt]{slides}
 but doesn't work. Perhaps slitex doesn't recognize points. How  
can I get more text on the slides.

(2) Another question is that I am including some latex figures in the
slides but since I have used 'idraw' to get 'ps' files of figures, I
can't view them in the 'xdvi' viewer as it simply shows equivalent blank 
space in the view. I wonder if 'slitex' increases the figure sizes also 
like text. If so, my figures will be exapanded over two pages which I 
don't want. If this happens how can I fit my figures on a page.
 
Any  help is appreciated. Please email if you could. I will summarize
if anybody wants.

hashmi 
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Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: rv@cs.brown.edu (rodrigo vanegas)
Subject: Re: lineskiplimit < lineskip ?
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Brown University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:50:12 GMT

In article <FZH57VH@math.fu-berlin.de>, goldstrn@math.fu-berlin.de (Martin Goldstern) writes:

> Does anybody know an example where lineskiplimit < lineskip
> (or lineskiplimit > lineskip)  would make sense? 

i, too, have wondered about this.

rodrigo_vanegas@brown.edu
From: rjc@onion.princeton.edu (Raymond Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: TeX too small, what now? <Solution>
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:26:50 GMT
Organization: Princeton University

Actually, you got the end-of-line rules somewhat confused.

UNIX		LF
CP/M, MS-DOS	CR+LF
Macintosh	CR

So when you moved your file from the MAc to a UNIX machine, UNIX thought
it was one HUGE line because there were no LF's.

>btw, I looked at dos2unix available on wuarchive, but it seemed to only 
>_remove_ the \lf not replace it with \cr\lf.

DOS2UNIX removes the CR, because that is what needs to be done to convert
an MS-DOS file into a UNIX file.

>I am still looking for a better solution -- may hack the dos2unix.c source.
>It would be worth it for the number of these figures I need to do.

Here's an easy solution:

	tr  '\015' '\012' <infile >outfile
From: ky04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (KUN YU)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Jumbo words across pages?
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:05:03 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Can I get a long line of text, 60in, printed on HPLJ III with
TeX/LaTeX?
With \documentstyle[times]{*}, I can use 
\newfont{\jumbo}{ptmr scaled 15000} to make jumbo letters. The problem
is when the letters are so big, I got too many hyphenations on one
page even if I use \special{landscape} and \textwidth 11in.

I guees if I used \textwidth 60in I would get hbox_overfull messages
and would not be able to print out across the pages. How to have TeX
go across pages and forget about line justification or linebreak?
-- 



                                                          _                  
ky04@lehigh.edu                                         / _ \
KYu, BioProcessing Institute                          /\ _|_ /\
111 Lehigh University                                    /|\
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: rjl@fawlty6.eng.monash.edu.au (Russell Lang)
Subject: Re: Help w/ emTeX (actually dvips)
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 02:35:49 GMT

swisher@cs.utexas.edu (Janet M. Swisher) writes:

>I have run dvips with the -d-1 option, and am confused by what it
>tells me.  

>For instance:
>	Trying to open c:\texfonts\lj_0.fli
>	<c:\texfonts\lj_0.fli(rb)> failed
>and so on for the other lj_*.fli files.  Then later:
>	Trying to open c:\texfonts\300\cmr10.pk
>	<c:\texfonts\300\cmr10.pk(rb)> failed

>These files *do* exist, and dvips seems to be correctly interpreting
>the lines in my config.ps on what directories to find them in.  So why
>is dvips failing to open them?  What does the (rb) signify, and does
>it have anything to do with this problem?

These messages are consistent with dvips being unable to open the file, 
either because the file does not exist, or because there are not enough 
file handles.  Since you say the files do exist, try setting FILES=20 
or larger in config.sys.
If dvips successfully opens a font library, it will tell you how many 
fonts it contains.
The (rb) is the mode dvips used to open the file - in this case
"read binary".  This is correct.


-- 
Russell Lang   Email: rjl@fawlty4.eng.monash.edu.au   Phone: (03) 565 3460
Department of Electrical and Computer Systems Engineering
Monash University, Australia
From: llew@coal.WPI.EDU (Lew Yan Voon)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: metafont
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:01:26 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute

i thought i'd try to install mf on my unix machine because
i need to do the conversion .mf -> .gf and inimf doesn't
seem to do it (maybe someone can explain the diff b/w mf and
inimf?). i don't have the metafont book.

anyway, so i went into the uwashington site (byron something)
and the readme file said that the utilityfonts tar file has
the source code for mf.
these are the dir i got by untarring utilityfons.tar:

bases/
black/
committee/
gf/
gray/
half/
list
logo/
manualfonts/
mfbook/
pk/
slant/

it's not obvious to me where the source code is. most of the files are
of the .mf type. can someone explain?
Xref: sparky comp.text.tex:9351 soc.culture.yugoslavia:7285
From: K2GT@UNB.CA (George Bogavac)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Re: Serbian language
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:15:38 GMT
Organization: University of New Brunswick

In article <498@owl.ukc.ac.uk> dat@ukc.ac.uk (D.A.Turner) writes:
>In response to a reference to a message about "Serbian" (language) I wrote:
>>That's interesting - I wasn't previously aware of a language called Serbian.
>>I had been told it was called Serbo-Croat.
>
>To which victor@jezebel.wustl.edu (Victor Wickerhauser) replies:
>>I think it is reasonable to distinguish a language written in one alphabet
>>from one written in another.
>
>I see, so when Serbo-Croat is written in Cyrillic you call  it  Serbian,
>when  in  the  Roman alphabet you call it Croat.  Sounds rather silly to
>me.  Is English a different language when I use shorthand  to  write  it
>down?
>
>The "instructions" referred to (and included) in the message about fonts
>were in the ROMAN alphabet - so how could they be in Serbian?  According
>to your formulation they were in Croat!
>.

Before this gets out of hand, allow me to add my two cents worth:

The language spoken in the majority of ex-YU republics (Croatia,
Bosnia-Herzegovina,Montenegro & Serbia ) is essentially the same
language, meaning that people from these republics can communicate
without any problems. There are different dialects, and some
differences in vocabulary, but again, these differences are minor.
The grammar (including spelling) is the same.
One of the outstanding "features" of the language is that it can
be written using two alphabets - the latin alphabet and the
Cyrillic alphabet. Due to historical circumstances, the latin
alphabet is nowadays used primarily in the western parts, and
the Cyrillic alphabet in the eastern parts.
It is incorrect to call the language Serbian just because it is
written in the Cyrillic alphabet, just as it is incorrect to call
it Croatian just because it is written in the Roman, or latin
alphabets.
During the communist rule, the official name of the language was
"Srpskohrvatski" or "Hrvatskosrpski" (Serbo-Croatian or Croatian-
Serbian). Nationalists prefer to call it Serbian (Serbs) or Croatian
(Croats). It is *esentially* the same language, but we have to respect
each nations right to call it how they wish.

So you can write either "CBAKu CP6uH CEPE CE6E" or "SVAKI SRBIN SERE
SEBE". Likewise, you can write: "VIKTOR JEDE GOVNA"  or "BuKTOP JEgE
TOBHA". You see, it's not the spelling that matters, as long as the
message gets through.

( All references to real Serbs or Victors is totally unintentional :-)

George Bogavac.
From: npreyer@oregon.uoregon.edu (Norris Preyer)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Where to get OzTex: A Summary of Sites
Keywords: Tex, OzTex, Macintosh, Postscript
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:36:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Oregon
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <14o9ggINN77f@agate.berkeley.edu>, sstai@ocf.berkeley.edu (Samuel S. Tai) writes...
> 
>Thanks to all who responded to my original post asking for the location of
>OzTex, a public domain TeX system for Macintosh computers.  Unfortunately,
>OzTeX requires a PostScript printer, which I currently do not own, and
>have no funds available for purchase.
> 
>These ftp sites have OzTeX available--
> 
>1.  midway.uchicago.edu
>2.  giza.cis.ohio-state.edu
>3.  watmsg.waterloo.edu
>4.  ymir.claremont.edu
>5.  niord.shsu.edu (responder wasn't positive)
> 
>I have received assurances that many other TeX ftp sites have OzTeX; please
>bear in mind that this list is in no way, shape, or form a DEFINITIVE list.
>Once again, I thank all who replied, esp. Norris Preyer <npreyer@oregon.
>uoregon.edu>, who gave me names of non-Macintosh sites.
> 
>Merci Beaucoup a toutes personnes qui m'ont aider.
> 
>-- 
>-----------------------+-----------------------------------------------------
>Samuel S. Tai          | Wisdom is supreme, therefore get wisdom.
>sstai@ocf.berkeley.edu | Though it cost you all you have, get understanding.
>                       |                                -- Proverbs 4:7 (NIV)
>-----------------------+-----------------------------------------------------


A small correction--while OzTeX can only print to Postscript printers,
there are other programs at these archives (esp. DVIM72-Mac) that can
print to quickdraw printers (like imagewriters, deskwriters, and
stylewriters).

--Norris Preyer
From: eginting+@cs.cmu.edu (Eka Namara Ginting)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Makers of TeX/LaTeX processors
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:19:07 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

Hi,
I was wondering if any of you would happen to know and would kindly
email me the name of vendors/companies that make TeX/LaTeX processors,
especially for PC platform.

Thanks much,
--Eka Ginting
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From: <sojka%rumil.ics.muni.cs%CSBRMU11.BITNET@SHSU.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Measurement of "document badness"
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 19:50:27 CET
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

Hi TeXers,
is anybody aware of method how to measure something like
"document badness" -- weighted sum of hbadess of lines and
vbadness of pages of the entire document? I would like to measure
effects of changing the \emergencystretch, hyphenation patterns
and other parameters on the document.

Any suggestions?

Petr Sojka                       Internet: <sojka@aci.cvut.cs>
Institute of Computer Science    Bitnet:   <sojka@cspuni12.bitnet>
Masaryk University               or <sojka%rumil.ics.muni.cs@csbrmu11.bitnet>
Buresova 20, 601 77 Brno         Fax: +42-5-750000 Tel: +42-5-757000 ext. 283
Czechoslovakia
From: andrew@phoebe.loni.ucla.edu (Andrew Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: help needed on converting tex to pc or mac word file
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:41:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Laboratory of Neuro-Imaging

Does anyone have information on how to turn a TeX file into either PC or 
Mac Word file.
	                                             Thanks for any infomation.