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From: rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu (Robert Fentiman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: LucasArts Games
Date: 18 Dec 1992 13:15:00 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
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Well, as promised, here is the response from LucasArts Games concerning
the Amiga (IE Amiga and X-Wing and such).  The said they don't mind
questions or comments sent to the Internet addresses given.

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From: "Khris Brown" <khris_brown@inbox_router.kerner.com>
To: rfentima@ua.d.umn.edu
Cc: wallace_poulter@inbox_router.kerner.com,
        kelly_flock@inbox_router.kerner.com
Subject: Amiga Support
Status: OR

Hello Robert! Thank you for your letter. We are currently supporting
CompuServe, GEnie, America Online and Prodigy, and often get messages from
people on the internet, so I am familiar with your questions.

Although we are impressed with the Amiga machines, we unfortunately can't sell
enough units to justify the expense of converting the games.  This decision is
nothing personal against the Amiga; We hope the new models do well.  For the
past five years, though, the Amiga decision has been based on the success of
the Amiga in Europe, particularly in the U.K. and Germany.  Both countries now
believe that Christmas '92 will be the last full price year for Amiga products.
 Therefore, Indy Atlantis is our last planned Amiga title. Often a software
group will like a machine but just not be able to get the sales to support
itself from that particular machine.  In the future, we will only consider more
Amiga conversions if and when the market for these products rebounds.

I know this is a disappointment, but hopefully people will be able to accept
our position and still play Indy Atlantis and our other games for the Amiga
with as much satisfaction as before.

Thanks again for your letter!
Best Wishes,
Khris Brown
LucasArts Games Product Support

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I appologize to all those who think this is a wast of bandwith, but for
some people, it's not.  Anyway, you at least got LucasArts E-mail
address for Internet.

	Thanks
	Robert Fentiman

UseNet: rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu
At: University of Minnesota, Duluth
From: lyon@egr.msu.edu (Scott Lyon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Star Destroyer question
Date: 16 Dec 92 03:53:01 GMT
Reply-To: lyon@egr.msu.edu (Scott Lyon)
Organization: Michigan State University
Originator: lyon@frith.egr.msu.edu

In article <lii3meINN1v3@rub-al-khali.cs.utexas.edu> hofle@cs.utexas.edu (Andrew
 Christopher Hofle) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.135032.22235@Virginia.EDU> qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T.
McCord") writes:
>>
>>    Can a death star house a star destroyer?  I know star
>
>
>Sure they can.  Remember in RotJ when that Star Destroyer
>plunged into D.S.?!?!  :)
>

Seriously, does anyone remember the scene(if I'm remembering correctly, and if
not, I'm sure I'll hear the flames... :), from ANH where a Star Destroyer is
seen approaching the Death Star, and seems to get (in my opinion) a bit too
close to merely launch shuttles.

If memory serves, it is either right before the scene where all the imperial
officers are sitting around (and includes the first scene of Vader choking
someone with the Force). Or perhaps it's right before the scene where Vader
goes to torture the Princess.

Can anyone shed a little light on this? (I can't find my copy of ANH right now,
or I'd check myself... You can be sure I will check when I *DO* find it...)

-Scott Lyon
  "Never tell me the odds..." -Han Solo-SW:TESB
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:27:22 EST
From: <DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Current SW?
 <1g19q7INN9q9@bigboote.WPI.EDU> <92345.193604DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu>
 <Bz2swv.HsG@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>

In article <Bz2swv.HsG@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, vaughanj@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jake
Vaughan) says:
>
>In article <92345.193604DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu> <DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>> ----- Folks, I don't want to burst anyone's bubble here, but
>>    Star Wars is not meant to be taking place in our past.  The
>>    usage of the phrase "a long, long time ago" is not in reference
>>    to our real-world present time; it implies that the narrator
>>    is a person living in some post-StarWars era.  This concept
>>    might be kind of hard for some people to grasp, but think
>>    about it for a while.
>>
>
>After many sleepless nights and long hours of research, I have yet to         d
>understan
>such an intellectualy challenging concept.  Who is this narrator guy any way
>--
>I don't remember him in the movie.  My bubble is done burst.  This makes me   .
>sad
>
>Jake
>

       That's right.  The narrator was not "in" the movie.  The
   events in the movie take place before the narrator's time.

   However, possibly the narrator IS someone who was in the films
   but is REALLY old when the phrase "a long, long time ago" is
   delivered.  So the narrator must be someone who can survive
   for extended periods of time beyond all belief....

   How about Wedge Antilles?

       But seriously, this can be a difficult concept, so put
   on your thinking caps and remember to take all your smart drugs.
   And when your bubble bursts, try to take it in stride.

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From: trogers@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Re: why don't all you star wars fans get a life
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:43:42 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: trogers@yktvmv.vnet.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In <sf_IZ2W00iV105mfBi@andrew.cmu.edu> John Michael Santore <jsbh+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Just a random comment....
>
>What if they guy accidentally left himself logged in.... HEY it happens....
>He could currently be in deep shit for something he didn't even do.
>
>I think that it's mighty harsh for anyone to send mail to his
>administrator, at the very least on the first time he was being a
>schmuck.  Also, who are any of you to play God anyway... are you gonna
>yell at me because I say 'shit'?  or 'damn'? or 'fuck'? or whatever? 
>Where's the line drawn, and WHO draws it?  I don't support the guy who
>caused this, but I support the reaction against it even more.  
>
>Besides, his post was just flame bait anyway... why even give it that
>much attention.  IF you didn't realize that than you ARE pretty clueless.
>
>
>Any comments or flames are welcome.... BUT keep em to email.
>
>                            -John Santore
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Sorry, not a good argument.

What if the guy had left himself logged in, and I as a malicious jerk
used is account to start a tape-worm or computer virus on a rampage.
You don't excuse it then either.

If this were truly the case where some bozo left himself logged in, then
the college will reprimand him for that action.  Either way, the college
should be notified, and the student reprimanded for his actions.

Regards,
Tom Rogers
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 15:10:19 MST
From: julie@alaska.et.byu.edu (Julie Gritton)
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Is there an "Imperial Anthem" ? What about the Alliance?
Reply-To: julie@bones.et.byu.edu

Darth Vader's theme serves as the Imperial anthem, hence its title
"The Imperial March".  The Alliance anthem seems to be kind of a
mixture of Luke's theme and the Force theme, with a little dab of
whatever was going on in the particular scene (Yoda's theme, perhaps,
or the love theme, etc.)  They don't really have a particular theme.

"You could use a good kiss!"		JULIE
From: redrum@carson.u.washington.edu (Joe Stremick)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Favorite Star Wars Moments
Date: 12 Dec 92 02:02:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Dec12.020221.12864
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


	Here's a question:
	What is your favorite Star Wars moments?
	Like a scene, a line, a situation, etc. that you find
particularly appealing or meaningful.

	Example: Luke and Leia's swing across the chasm on
the Death Star in ANH.

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From: joshuali@sal-sun55.usc.edu (Joshua Ling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Imperial Shuttles
Date: 14 Dec 1992 10:58:30 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <Bz9Hs0.733@news.cso.uiuc.edu> caine@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dark Lord of the Sith) writes:
>
>Correction---> X-Wing fighters do not have hyperspace capabilities.  However,
>they can be fitted with the hyperdrive engines.  As far as I know, Luke's
>X-Wing is the only one with hyperdrive.  It's in the Star Wars Sourcebook
>and in the Timothy Zahn books Star Wars: "Heir To The Empire" and "Dark Force 
>Rising."

They sure look like they have hyperdrive in ROTJ. I think it's standard.
I think it would have been rather expensive for the rebellion to fit ALL
of it's fighters with hyperdrives for the attack on Death Star #2.

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From: smp@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Samuel Penn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Favorite Star Wars Moments
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:08:11 GMT
Reply-To: smp@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Samuel Penn)
Organization: Laboratory for the Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh U

I think my favourite moment in Star Wars is the beginning of ANH. It must be
the best start to a film that I've seen. Rebel (sorry, diplomatic) ship
flies past tatooine, laser fire exploding around it... nothing much special
about that... then the star destroyer comes onto the screen, and onto the
screen, and onto the screen.... In just a few moments we get a pretty good
idea about what the rebels are up against - a small insignificant rebel
ship against the huge might of the destroyer gives a far better impression
than, well, better than anything else I can think of.
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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Do Vader know Yoda?
Date: 18 Dec 92 07:52:00
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
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In-reply-to: 's message of Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:47:48 EST


DCC117> Do we know for certain that Yoda "turned down", or even met,
DCC117> Anakin Skywalker?  Couldn't one just assume that Ben simply
DCC117> started training Anakin without Yoda's approval?

I would say that Yoda did not know about Ben training Anakin. If he
had, he probably wouldn't have allowed it. Of course Yoda may have
forseen the entire think, and allowed Ben to get away with it, so Luke
could forfill his destiny. 

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Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 10:15:19 MST
From: julie@alaska.et.byu.edu (Julie Gritton)
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Lucas the literary genius? (LONG)
Reply-To: julie@bones.et.byu.edu
	<1992Dec19.004041.21732@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>

Just because reviewers call something a classic doesn't mean it is...

"You could use a good kiss!"		JULIE
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From: nnhill@david.wheaton.edu (Nathan N Hill)
Subject: Imperial Shuttles
Organization: Wheaton College, IL
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:43:38 GMT

In article <20114.2b26110b@ul.ie> 9225803@ul.ie writes:
>In article <92341.200031GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu>, GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>> I think we only see them when the Empire is chasing the Millenium Falcon in
>> asteroid field during TESB.  A couple of them are shown bombing the exterior
>> and craters of the asteroid in which the Falcon resides.
>
>Although this is undoubtably open to interpretation,I think we see one coming
>out of the "hanger" of a star destroyer right after Captain Nida (sp?) says 
>for his shuttle to be readied.So it could be that they were intended for use as
>shuttles as well.But like I said, the way it appeared on film could be seen
>differently.
>
>Paul Dix
>9225803@ul.ie      "It's a piece of junk"
>                             Luke Skywalker

I think that was Captain Needa's shuttle...not as cute as a lambda class
shuttle, but it served the story of ESB. Incidentally, the lambda shuttles
(ala RotJ) seem to be kind of a classy make, used for formal or expensive
purposes. It still seems odd to me (though not unbelievable) for shuttles to
be hyperspace-capable....

						local Star Wars guru
____________________________________________________________________________

NEW SIG COMING SOON, I HOPE....   
				 Nathan Hill (nnhill@david.wheaton.edu)
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From: dkemper@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu (David Kemper)
Subject: Re: Current SW?
Organization: University of Administrative Incompetence
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 16:10:46 GMT
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In article <92345.193604DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu>, <DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu> writes...
> ----- Folks, I don't want to burst anyone's bubble here, but
>    Star Wars is not meant to be taking place in our past.  The
>    usage of the phrase "a long, long time ago" is not in reference
>    to our real-world present time; it implies that the narrator
>    is a person living in some post-StarWars era.  This concept
>    might be kind of hard for some people to grasp, but think
>    about it for a while.

Interesting theory, but there's no indication of its validity--or 
invalidity, for that matter--in the trilogy (nor any any supplementary 
material I have seen.

Lucas put that introduction in to give the story a fairy-tale quality 
(along the lines of "once upon a time..."), so I'm not sure how literally 
we should take it.  The original introduction to the movie was a bit longer, 
explaining that the story has no relation to earth, and could take place in 
the future or the past, in our galaxy or another.  His main goal was to 
disassociate his story from earth as much as possible.

--Gallandro

    "Take it easy, kid.  It's only a movie."   --Ham Salad, "Hardware Wars"
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Hamill the comic collector (was: Hamill's Movie Career...Anyone?)
Date: 18 Dec 92 07:42:04
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
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In-reply-to: 's message of Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:39:33 EST

>>>>> On Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:39:33 EST, <GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu> said:

GPS108> Mark Hamill *really* has his heart in his Feb. 7 guest stint
GPS108> as The Trickster supervillain on CBS's The Flash.  The "Star
GPS108> Wars" hero has been a comic-book collector for 20 years (he
GPS108> recently sold, along with two partners, an $80,000 Detective
GPS108> Comics issue No. 27, which introduced Batman), and The Flash
GPS108> is one of his favorites.  

Mark also wrote a one page introduction to the Batman hard cover
grahpic novel Son of the Demon, telling how much he loved the
charector and comics in general.

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From: bssbc3gsd@dct.ac.uk (Grant Doig)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Upcoming comics./Dark Empire #6
Date: 15 Dec 92 11:40:20 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <1992Dec14.135831.1476@uvm.edu>, cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise,Finger me - I love it.) writes:
> From article <1992Dec14.011237.13605@njitgw.njit.edu>, by bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler):
> 
> 	On the subject of SW comics, I recently re-read Dark Empire and have
> changed my mind about it - it certainly could been done better.  While I 
> really thought the story was fresh and exciting, most of Veitch's 
> characterizations really turned me off.  For instance, issue #4 when
> one of the Emporor's guards is holding back Han, Leia slashes "it's" hand
> and shouts "Let go of my husband, you overgrown freak!"  I have to question
> what the hell happened to such a powerful figure in ANH and ESB.
> 
Personally, i thought it was good until issue six, when it went downhill.

******spoiler coming up(in case you've not read it yet..AND WHY NOT!!)
























































































The end, where Luke, Leia and the unborn sprog turn the emperors force storm
against him was awful.


And i would have thought it would take more than someone saying "you've turned
too far to the dark side" to make luke return to the light....


it was very "oh you've turned to thedark side"


" oh!! so I have, Leia! I think i'll turn back now."



What did everyone else think of the ending...????

>  TTYL
>  Chris
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From: DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: New Questions
Date: 18 Dec 92 02:50:20 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Dec15.194801.8651@uvm.edu>, cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris
Blaise) says:
>
>        I've always thought AT-ATs were sinister, evil looking - I like em!
>I think the best one is the Excelsior (the super star-destroyer)...just
>so huge and looked so cool plowing into the DS in ROTJ!

  Sorry, but the Excelsior is from Star Trek.  However, it still
 would have looked cool plowing into the DS.  The Super Star
 Destroyer was called the Executor.  And by the way, it wasn't an
 AT-AT!
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From: goldfoot-josh@yale.edu (Josh A. Goldfoot)
Subject: Re: John Williams
Organization: Yale University Science & Engineering UNIX(tm), New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:55:24 GMT

wag5@quads.uchicago.edu (john peter wagner) wrote:
"""
        To an earlier writer; Wagner's opera is indeed dramatic, and maybe
ride of the Valkyries/Flying Dutchman/The Ring/etc. can be fun, but
Wagner's music is more oriented toward the pathos.  The Stravinsky/Williams/
Grieg/etc. pieces are more light-hearted and frivolous-a shadow of the
guy we know of as Han Solo, the shadow of a bunch of guys driving 90 miles
an hour down a dark road at night without headlights for the thrill of it,
the shadow of exploring some new land and the mystique and excitement it
brings.
"""

I really have to disagree if what you're saying is that Wagner was primarly "serious"
and Stravinsky was primarily "light." Stravinsky's ballets made some very
profound points -- it's possible to see similarities between the FIrebird and
ANH, for example. And Wagner's music could also give "mystique and excitement."
I say that Williams took heavily from Wagner because Wagner's music uses very
easily recognizable techniques, some of the same techniques which WIlliams
employs heavily. Wagner, I believe, was the first composer to seriously
connect a phrase of music to  a particular character or idea.
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Vaders TIE
Date: 16 Dec 92 08:23:37
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
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In-reply-to: dl91@ecs.soton.ac.uk's message of 16 Dec 92 12:49:37 GMT

>>>>> On 16 Dec 92 12:49:37 GMT, dl91@ecs.soton.ac.uk (D Lewis) said:

dl91> Whoops. That'll teach me to read all the way through my RPG
dl91> books.  In the Death Star Technical Manual there is a vehicle
dl91> list which gives the stats for Vaders TIE fighter. And no, it
dl91> doesn't have a hyperdrive. Which leads to the question: what
dl91> does a bored Dark Lord do to pass the time?

Uses the Force to out himself into a meditative state.
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