From: jdporter@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.games.tiddlywinks
Subject: Re: New group
Date: 25 Jan 93 10:47:56 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <SACHS.93Jan24001910@rr5.FID.Morgan.COM>, sachs@FID.Morgan.COM (Josef Sachs) writes:
> In case anyone didn't see the newgroup control messages, here they are:
> 
>   From: daveh@vax.ox.ac.uk (Dave Hastings, OUCS)
>   Newsgroups: alt.games.tiddlywinks.ctl
>   Subject: newgroup alt.games.tiddlywinks
>   Message-ID: <1993Jan20.163138.2862@clts1.comlab.ox.ac.uk>
>   Date: 20 Jan 93 16:31:38 GMT
>   Control: newgroup alt.games.tiddlywinks
>   Sender: Malcolm.Harper@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Malcolm Harper)
>   Organization: Oxford University Computing Services, UK
>   Lines: 10
>   Approved: news@comlab.ox.ac.uk
>   Originator: malcolm@clts1.comlab
>   Nntp-Posting-Host: clts1.comlab.ox.ac.uk
> 
>   Charter:
> 
>   To promote discussion about the game of tiddlywinks, enable announcements as
>   to forthcoming tournaments, descriptions of tournament results and general
>   discussion as to the rules and nature of the game.
> 
>   For your newsgroups file:
>   alt.games.tiddlywinks : All aspects of the game of Tiddlywinks
> 
Right, I'll admit it, I got my local news manager to send that one, and he very
obligingly did so.

> and:
> 
>   From: news@signal.dra.hmg.gb
>   Newsgroups: alt.games.tiddlywinks.ctl
>   Subject: newgroup alt.games.tiddlywinks
>   Message-ID: <news-alt.games.tiddlywinks-21-Jan-1993-143616-WET@signal.dra.hmg.gb>
>   Date: 21 Jan 93 12:36:16 GMT
>   Control: newgroup alt.games.tiddlywinks
>   Lines: 8
>   Approved: news
> 
>   The idea behind having a group for winks on the NET is to allow for the
>   following:
> 
>    - Publication by the national organisations of their tournaments
>    - Posting of tournament reports, as well as articles from journals of
>      the national organisations
>    - To allow general discussion of the game, proposals and counter-
>      proposals about its rules, etc.
> 
> Would the authors of the above messages care to introduce themselves to us?
> I was wondering whether the two messages were the product of collaboration.
> It's just a bit weird -- I don't recall ever before seeing a USENET newsgroup
> newgroup'ed by multiple parties.
> 
> I'm a bit irked to see a winks newsgroup in the alt.games hierarchy.  Wouldn't
> alt.sport have been far superior?  As it is, I believe a.g.t to be the first
> group in alt.games or rec.games for a game which requires physical activity
> in any real sense (no offense intended to players of board games, video games,
> and computer games).

Yes well, the history of the thing is that once I had decided to try and start
a group and got the go ahead from the ETwA council I mailed off to alt.config
saying something along the lines of `hey, why don't we start a group called
alt.tiddlywinks?' and got the instant response from various quarters of `call
the thing alt.games.tiddlywinks instead' and so it came to pass and so it was,
so that's why.

>  Can we agree on rec.sport.tiddlywinks if we ever go
> "mainstream"?
> 

If you like, but I don't suppose that'll happen for a bit really.

> In any event, I'm looking forward to new avenues of interaction with winkers
> and winker-wannabes around the world.
> -- 
> Josef Sachs                     \     Morgan Stanley & Co., Inc.
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Julian Porter