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From: mat@cypress.com (Mat Clayson/VDSP)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Wedding cake figures
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:07:29 GMT
Reply-To: mat@cypress.com.UUCP (Mat Clayson/VDSP)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor, San Jose, CA

>I remember reading about Disney characters wedding cake tops. Are they still
>makeing them? Of even more interest would be any Robin Hood and Maid Mariam/fox
>figures. If they make them are they availible at the Disney Store?

In response to my own post. I called the local Disney stores and they 
didn't have the cake top in stock, and probly wouldn't for some
time, and there aren't any Robin Hood figures at all. They did however give 
me the toll free number to Disney merchandiseing, (800)362-4533. I called 
and they are sending the cake top within 14 days. I can't wait to see it
all togather, the cake is a tall thin castle.

"Mat Clayson, you just got married, now what are you going to do?"

I'm gonna go to Disney World!

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From: langer@aero.org (John V. Langer)
Subject: Re: How Disney characters are remembered (Was: Little Mermaid TV Series???)
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 06:59:44 GMT

In article <1992Mar31.133530.13878@onetouch.COM> csmith@onetouch.COM 
(Craig Smith) wrote:

>> Does it seem odd to you that many of Disney's favorite characters are
>> remembered in a state of incompleteness?  For example:
>> 
>> The Little Mermaid is remembered as a mermaid instead of human.
>> The Beast is remembered as a beast instead of a prince.
>> Pinoccio is remembered as a puppet instead of a boy.
>> Bambi is remembered as a fawn instead of a deer.
>> 
>> Anyone have a counter to this?

Which generated many fine responses, a typical example being article 
<1992Apr1.213842.16674@risky.ecs.umass.edu> in which 
rkaminsk@risky.ecs.umass.edu (Robert D. Kaminsky) writes:

> This is because, metaphorically speaking, the act of the journey is more
> important than the destination.  Hence Ariel is remembered for longing
> to be part of a world bigger than her own and her sacrifices to obtain it,
> Beast for finding love in his heart, Pinoccio for discovering the essence of
> humanity, and Bambi for learning of the world and the cycle of life.

But the original posting called for counter examples.  The only one I can 
think of is Dumbo, who learns to fly only in the last few minutes of
the film, but is always remembered as the cute little flying elephant.

I'd like to see some other counter examples put forth, and then have the
essayists revisit the topic with analyses that will no doubt be richer 
for having considered the exceptional cases.

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From: Sean Alan Squier <ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Mickey's Kitchen
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 15:59:09 -0500

Well, it looks like Mickey's Kitchen is no more.  I read this a few
days ago but forgot to post it, and I haven't seen it mentioned
since. Apparently they were barely breaking even, and weren't
attracting EXTRA customers to the stores to which they were attached.
I guess it's the end of the Mickey-shaped french fry (unless someone
knows if they can be found on property..??) 



Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Co.)
ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
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From: alberti@ux.acs.umn.edu (Timothy Fay)
Subject: Re: LaserDisc release lag vs VHS (was 101 Dalmations)
Organization: Revolutionary Anarchist Bowling League
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 06:33:35 GMT

In <1992Apr9.161501.24704@cco.caltech.edu> tll@cco.caltech.edu (Tal Lewis Lancaster) writes:

>I'm not sure why there is such a lag between the VHS release and the LD 
>release. Maybe it is because they want to saturate the VHS market so there 
>will be less bootleging VHS copies from LaserDisk?

The reason for the delay is simple:  Special factories are required to make
laserdiscs, and there are only a handful of them in the entire world.  With
video, all you need is two or more VCRs, and you're in business.

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From: srm1@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (steven.r.marcovici)
Subject: Re: Audio problem with _101 Dalmations_ VHS tape?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:02:18 GMT
Summary:  Try adjusting the tracking

In article <SJE.92Apr13110205@xylos.ma30.bull.com> sje@xylos.ma30.bull.com writes:
>
>	I picked up my pre-ordered VHS copy of Disney's _101
>Dalmations_ last week.  I got a chance yesterday to view the movie.
>Unfortunately, there is a significant and persistent problem with the
>audio.  It seems that a fault with the VHS Hi-Fi recording causes my
> [stuff deleted]

I have a couple of tapes that do this. I think it's a combination of poor
media, bad recording and oversensistive VCR (or some combination of these).

I have had good success with these tapes by making minor adjustments to the
VCR tracking. I found that I can readjust the tracking just enough to get
the HiFi Stereo track to play OK, without affecting the video at all.

Try it.
-Steve  srm@garage.att.com
From: e49113459@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disneyland question
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:42:01 GMT
Distribution: rec,local

In article <14090@acorn.co.uk>, kmorris@acorn.co.uk (Kay Morris) writes:
>  
> I need a bit of info.
> 
> Does anybody know when Disneyland and Walt Disney World opened?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Kay

Ok, here goes:
                What    		When
	 	Disneyland		July 17,1955
		Disney World            Oct 1, 1971
		  Epcot Center		Oct 1, 1982
		  MGM Studios		May 1, 1989
		  Typhoon Lagoon	June 1, 1989
          	  Pleasure Island	May 1, 1989
		Tokyo Disneyland	April 15, 1983
		Euro Disneland		April 12, 1992
		Walt Disney Company 	Oct 16, 1923

	Enjoy!
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From: nqiy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Need Walt Disney Home Video address...
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:15:06 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

 If you have the snail mail address, could you please e-mail it to me? I bought
the Fantasia CAV version(the deluxe edition, on laserdisc) and sent in the
survey included in the package. I was supposed to get the free laserdisc, but
it hasn't arrived yet--that was five months ago! Given the price, I want to
take advantage of the bonus offer. Thanks in advance.

-Brian Soriano

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From: gds@crosfield.co.uk (gary stamp)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Beauty and the Beast
Date: 8 Apr 92 10:54:02 GMT
Reply-To: gds@crosfield.co.uk (gary stamp)
Followup-To: rec.arts.disney
Organization: Crosfield Electronics, Hemel Hempstead, United Kingdom.

In article <1992Apr6.040711.28583@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> fag2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Farul A Ghazali) writes:
>In article <53604@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt1293c@prism.gatech.EDU (W. Scott Radeker, IV) writes:
>>Beauty and the Beast WILL be released this fall on video.  I know this
>>to be true.  Many more will too, after Tuesday!
>>
>>
>I'm not sure if this has been asked before or not, but when the video
>comes out, where can I get the PAL version? 

Good point, we here in the UK require PAL. When will Jungle book, plus
many others, be released in the PAL format ?



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From: ss1@bofur.unh.edu (The Rink)
Subject: Re: SNOW WHITEI
Organization: Turkey Hall
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:46:11 GMT

>I'll raise my hand to that.  It seems every time you turn your head, Walt
>Disney is doing something spectacular.  I sometimes wonder when they'll start
>doing things like the EuroDisney 3rd and a half week Anniversary : Win a free
>loaf of french bread...  Where I really notice it is in the animated films.
>No sooner did Ariel walk off the screen then Belle danced on.  Though I haven't
>seen Beauty and the Beast yet, the immediate impressions I got from seeing the
>previews was that there was a VERY tangible similarity between the two movies,
>I think primarily in the style/feel/look of the artwork.  What I mean is that
>the animation in Snow White has a very different look than Cinderella (sorry if
>the difference in release times makes this an bad comparison, it's the first 
>that came to mind).  I'm thinking that Disney should take a little time out
>between big productions and take some time to do some really spectacular/unique
>work that can be really appreciated.


First, I believe work was started on Beauty and the Beast long before the
Little Mermaid came out.  Second, HAS EVERYBODY FORGOTTEN THE RESCUERS DOWN
UNDER??????????????????

That's as big a film as TLM & BatB!!  And quite different, I might add.
I don't know what Aladdin's going to be like.  But anyway, IMHO, Disney is
doing just fine....
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From: ras@controls.hccd.harris.com (Russell Soule)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Mickey Mouse Club (1970s)
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:13:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Mickey Mouse Club...NOT!!!

In article <1992Apr11.232217.1519@gossip.urich.edu>, helen@nomad.urich.edu (Helen C. O'Boyle) writes:
|> In article <1992Apr9.160714.160@ncsu.edu> swimmer@catt.ncsu.edu (Jennifer Bouck) writes:
|>I was wondering if someone else remembers a Mickey Mouse Club back in 
|>the 1970s.  I remember watching it when I was little, and I think I 
|>might have even had a lunch box with the mouseketeers on it.  I believe 
|>Lisa Welchel (from Facts of Life) was one of the mouseketeers.  Does any 
|>one else rememebr this?  And if so, do you rememeber who any of the 
|>mouseketeers were?  
|>
|>
|>			-Jennifer
|>

I remember that show vaguely. I seem to remember having a crush on one of the
Mouseketeerettes. I remember feeling sorry for her when she tied a tent rope to 
someone's camper bumper which then proceeded to drive away dragging their tents
with it. I guess that was a special on the Wonderful World of Disney.

I live in Central Florida and remember reading in the local paper something
about the 70's MMC when the current MMC was being organized. It was something
about how the original Mouseketeers (Annette, Cubby, etc.) really hated that
70's MMC because they were completly ignored as consultants for that show (which
is not the case for the current MMC, where they are used as consulants).

Sorry, that's about all I remember about the 70's MMC, except that they wore
really colorful uniforms sometimes. But other than that, I guess I filed it
away with other 70's things like disco and polyester suits.

I hope this helps,

Russg
From: VIRGINIA.A.GINNY.V.TRAVALINI@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Ginny Travalini")
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Broadway Show at the Contemporary
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:30:44 GMT
Reply-To: virginia.a.ginny.v.travalini@office.wang.com
Organization: Mail to News Gateway

My girlfriend and I are going to be in WDW the first part of December.  We
would like to go to the Broadway Show held at the Contemporary.  However, we
know nothing about it.  How's the food?, what to wear?, (dressy or casual),
price, etc.  We've been to the Hoop-de-doo (wonderful, funny show), and the
luau at the Polynesian (fabulous), so now we want to try the Broadway show.
Is it worth going to?  I hear its a lot more money than the other two.  Would
appreciate some input.  Thanks in advance.
From: tanida@forseti.css.gov (Tom Tanida)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Little Mermaid/BatB similarities
Date: 17 Apr 92 00:19:04 GMT
Reply-To: tanida@esosun.css.gov (Tom Tanida)
In-reply-to: tlin@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Tony Lin)

In article <44211@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>, tlin@gandalf (Tony Lin) writes:
>Well, I'm a latecomer to the Beauty and the Beast/Little Mermaid rivalry,
>but I'm going to chip in my two cents worth anyway ... =)

It'd be pretty boring subscribing to rec.arts.disney if nobody had
anything to say... :-)

>It seems to me that BatB is more of a love story, in the sense that the
>protagonists actually KNOW each other.  Belle at first fears the Beast,
>but then, as she gets to know him, learns to love him.  Similary, the
>Beast learns to love Belle, though he had never felt that way before.
>
>Contrast this with Ariel and Eric:  Ariel is a young (mer-)girl of 16, who 
>apparently has only seen Eric for the first time aboard his boat.
>Ariel is shockingly naive; she remarks before the song _Part_of_Your_World_
>that "I don't see how a world that makes such wonderful things could be bad."
>In her song, she says, "Bet you on land / They understand / Bet they don't /
>Reprimand their daughters ..."
>
>And what about Eric?  We know very little about him.  He knows very little
>about Ariel, since she couldn't talk to him; he was in love with "that voice,"
>and almost married Ursula becaus Ursula was using Ariel's voice.

This is interesting.  Makes the Little Mermaid seem kind of
superficial- based on looks and voices- kind of "love at first sight"
for Ariel.  Don't get me wrong- I like the films equally (perhaps
Mermaid a little more- I'll wait for B&tB on video and watch them back
to back and see) and understand that in the Disney realm things are just a
*little* :-) idealized.  Ariel didn't even talk to Eric up until the showdown
with Ursula- then again, it's not clear how much time elasped between
Ariel becoming a human at the hands of Triton and her marriage to
Eric- maybe they dated for a couple years. :-)

On the other hand, Beauty is the complete opposite in a way- based on the
premise that it's not looks that are important; it's what's inside
that counts.

In the end, TLM is concerned with Ariel's trials en route to
becoming human (not her relationship with Eric), and B&tB is
concerned with Prince Beast's :-) trials en route to becoming human,
which is more of a love story since falling in love is a prerequisite
and Belle and Beast had more time to spare.
Ariel needed the "kiss of true love" and only had
3 days to get it, whereas the Beast had 10 years- like me, he sure
waited to the last minute to get things done. :-)

-Tom
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From: jmoulton@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Yer mom)
Subject: Re: Polynesian Resort 
Keywords: Let's see what I remember....
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 92 13:00:47 EDT


In article <4059@sumax.seattleu.edu> agrubbs@sumax.seattleu.edu (Hmmm) writes:
>I just made my reservations to stay at the Polynesian Resort in June.
>This was not my first choice, but I wanted something quieter than the
>Contemporary.  Has anyone stayed at the Plynesian before, who would
>be willing to divulge some of its secrets?  Surprisingly little is
>written about it in the guides. 
>

Well, Andrew, let me see if I can help a bit...
I stayed there several years ago, when my family went for a trip back in 
high school. It was a very nice place. The rooms were a good size, and ours
was facing the lagoon--a VERY nice view, especially at night. Most, if not
all rooms have balconys outside. The resort is set up in different buildings,
or 'houses' may be a better way to put it. It was a very quiet place. The 
grounds were my favorite part. With all the different buildings, there are 
paths and walkways that wander all through the grounds. It was nice to take
a quiet stroll at night....
Let's see what else...There were two pools there. One regular large pool, 
and the other was made to be a stone waterfall, with a slide. (I remember
my younger brother LOVED that one.) There's also a white sand beach behind
the resort, on the lagoon.
There were several restaurants there--I can't remember the names, however.
The one that was in the main building (which is a beautiful place, btw) was
a bit expensive, but very nice. I remember having several great breakfasts
there. They did have a luau at night that you could go to. We went one night.
It was kind of cheesy, but fun. The food was great--served family style, and
they had some great polynesian dancers in the show.
I did like the resort a lot, and would recomend it to people. It seemed a
nice, quiet place to stay, but the service was still excellent.
Hope I helped out some. If you have something else you wanted to know, feel
free to e-mail me, and I'll try to answer it. :^)

-Jen
From: deitch@gisatl.fidonet.org (David Deitch)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: EuroDisney Stock
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:24:31 GMT
Organization: Galaxy Information System (GIS) 1:133/411 Atlanta, Ga

On Wed, 08/Apr/92 at 17:45, UUCP said this to All:

 U> I am planning to purchase some EuroDisney stock that is traded on the Paris 
 U> Exchange.  Does anyone have any information about EuroDisney?  I have heard 
 U> that EuroDisney's hotels have been booked five years in advance. (That's 
 U> kind 
 U> of hard to believe, especially when it's coming from a stock broker.)  If 
 U> EuroDisney takes off like DisneyLand and DisneyWorld and Disney in Japan, 
 U> the stock could be a real winner.  Last I heard it was trading around 26 in 
 U> US $.

     If they can overcome the labor gripes (Disney is non-union according to 
the news) and the French purists (US culture invasion) and take their case to 
the people of Europe, then they will do well.  The big worry for the opening 
is the transit strike threatened.

          David Deitch, (GIS) Atlanta
 

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From: wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (August Paul Yang)
Subject: Re: The Disney Stores List (03/02/92)
Keywords: disney stores list compilation monthly
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 19:19:38 GMT

In article <Apr.7.14.11.06.1992.16189@pilot.njin.net> mla@pilot.njin.net (Marc L. Appelbaum) writes:
>I have one addition to the list:
>
>State	Location
>NJ	Quakerbridge Mall, Lawrenceville - OPENING SOON -date not
>	known.
>
>MICKEY FOR PRESIDENT IN 1992!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>

One more.
There's a Disney store that going to be opened
in Garden State Plaza in New Jersey (New Joisey :) heh heh)
From: caladan!seanews!monorail@seattleu.edu (Brannon Boren)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Hidden Mickeys I know
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 10:47:02 PDT
Organization: SEANEWS - Seattle Public Access News & Mail

        At the Great Movie Ride:  In the scene out of
Raiders of the Lost Ark (the underground templle).  If you
look closely at the heiroglyphics (sp) on the wall to your
left, just before you exit this area you will see that one
of the pictures is of Mickey and Donald sitting at a
table wearing birthday hats.

        Of course the greatest hidden Mickey IS the Studio.
The entire park is constructed to appear as a trademark
Mickey head.  Just turn the park brochure map upside-
down to see the design!  Many people can't figure out why
the pavement suddenly changes color for no reason from
area to area.  That's why.   Pretty neat.

        I know I'll think of more later.

                        Monorail Green
                          aka B-Man

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From: andyi@world.std.com (Andy G Ihnatko)
Subject: Re: Age of the prince when turned to beast?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: rec.arts.disney
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 07:40:23 GMT

The sloppy chronology is the only big goofup of the flick, IMHO.  FWIW, the
first draft of the script specifies that the Prince dude is indeed eleven
when the spell is laid on him (originally that short, stained-glass opening
was supposed to be a long, fully-animated scene that added a lot of
unnecessary details).
From: evanh@sco.COM (Evan A.C. Hunt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disneyland - Song in Snow White's Grotto
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 23:38:15 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.



Well this is weird. The general consensus - and who am I to argue with
people who go to Disneyland every year? - is that the song has always been
"I'm wishing" from "Snow White". But we *know* we heard "I wonder" from
"Sleeping Beauty".  That is a really unmistakable song, especially if
you've heard Yma Sumac's version. ;-)  Could it have been coming from the
Castle itself?
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