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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:36:54 BST
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject:      re: Tushar's Test
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On Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:38:35 CDT, tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU wrote:
> >I remain not-so-faithfully yours,
>
> This is the posting which made Graham wonder whether abh had learned about
> "mconnect". Gentlefolk, behold the unimaginative newbie, G Toal.

Actually, no - the one *below* is the posting that prompted that remark - I
wanted to see if tushar could resist crowing about how wrong I was.  I
consider his response makes it about 90% likely that Santa Claus is Tushar...

> tushar
>
> And it's always good to decide first on a coherent tone to take. The
> slightest hint of bragging and the game is given away.


G
PS Tushar, I already *knew* Anne knew about faking SMTP mail - we discussed
it some time ago.  She also mentioned that she'd passed on some hints to you
about how to fake internet mail from Steph...
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Date:         Sat, 3 Oct 1992 01:23:21 MED
From:         "(Graham Toal)" <gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL>
Subject: Re: Mama Judith
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:, since I've never seen
:any List--even Notabene!--or newsgroup where people were gratuitiously
:"nice")

Ah! - you must be the token member of words-l who *doesn't* lurk soc.bi...

:Who are you behind the logname and cute *signature* by the way?

Ken!?!??!  Joke, right?

G
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:09:20 EDT
From:         EL406041@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (62
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Posted on 5 Oct 1992 at 05:34:32 by torkel@SICS.SE
>  Well no, I was actually intending to put forward with humorous
>bluntness a steely determination to write in nothing but peculiar
>Japanese.

I understood it that way.

>wakaru nihongo o kaku no wa mada watashi ni wa muzukashisugiru deshoo...
                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Nihongo no benkyoo ni mi o motto irenakereba narimasen yo!
                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^

Much better...distal instead of direct.:)

Karen
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 03:46:37 +0100
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: loser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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              05 Oct 92 22:40:35 -0400. <9210060242.AA16277@sics.se>

 >Get a life!  If you hand any common sense you would realized you can't
 >stand too close to a howitzer when it fires much less touch it.

  This expert information establishes what we have long suspected, that Marty
has no common sense whatever. I think one more exclamation mark is called
for.
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 10:36:00 EST
From:         "Alec D. Plotkin" <185422285%VUVAXCOM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Bush Bashing

>From the 10-05-92 issue of TIME:


>White House Salaries 1991

>Gary Foster, dep. press. sec.  $85,000
>Alixe Glen, dep. press. sec.   $60,000

>Steve Hart, asst. to the Pres. $115,300
>Judy Smith, asst. to the Pres.  $70,000.

>"Sighed one of the well-paid men, 'It's not gonna look so good that the
>guys are making so much more.  But I'll bet there's a similar gap on
>Capitol Hill.'"

>As usual appearance is more important than reality.

>Anne Kearney
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 23:42:10 EDT
From:         IDISAVINOH%1994B%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
Subject: Re: still a loser
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Interesting concept!!!  I agree.

              Howie-D
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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ@ZENO.MSCD.EDU>
Subject: Re: still a loser
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Sayeth "(Natalie Maynor)" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

> Meanwhile, if you can bear with the brats tonight, I think the problem
> will go away sometime tomorrow.  Action has been taken.

     Damn it, go to work one day and a list war erupts and is
(hopefully) quelled before I can en-list.  And now wome namby-pamby
list owner is attempting a rational solution.  Last I heard, Banyan
SMTP software was a little weak and could be induced to have a nervous
breakdown if it was shown the full force of true BWP's.  Oh well.
Such tactics shall have to wait for another day.  And tomorrow is
another day, boys.

Bob
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
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Subject:      Re: Mama Judith

*** Resending note of 10/02/92 15:04


>this <world>.  Don't worry, JM -- I voted for you as "dullest" just for
>old-times sake!

Alright!!  My faith in mankind (oops, better make that womankind), is
restored!!!!!

Don, the JM you never knew

PS.  I would be working, but MVS side of mainframe has died.
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:20:54 +0100
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: Induction (was Mensa)
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              06 Oct 92 12:57:00 -0500. <9210061800.AA16644@sics.se>

  >Is there anything you could add to that?

  Not as far as explaining mathematical induction is concerned.

  >The formula is a good simple example for producing the basic step
  >and the induction step, which is what I had in mind, but did not
  >phrase accurately, when I made that earlier statement.

  It's a good example to those who already understand mathematical induction.
People who don't tend to assume, on the basis of such examples, that
mathematical induction must be associated with 1) a "formula", and 2) a
way of manipulating formulas so as to get the formula for n+1 from the
formula for n.

  In my opinion, a much better introduction to mathematical induction would
be a proof that every natural number is a product of primes. And, for the
interested students, a proof that every natural number is a product of primes
in essentially only one way.

  >Chess may be silly, but you're free to delete the game posts

  I don't mind the game posts. What I dislike is the idea that chess is
somehow a more noble or intellectual pastime than eating donuts. I have
encountered this attitude: "You like mathematics, so you must really
enjoy chess, right?"

  I've only played chess three or four times in my life, with a girl I
was in love with. She explained the rules; I smiled at her. The game
began. I moved pieces at random, looking at her face. At some (to me)
arbitrary point, she declared that I had lost. I suggested another game.
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:09:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      I CANT BELIEVE THIS
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I cannot, for the <life> of me, believe this.  Are you people
*really* upset about this dumb game?  I really thought it would
be fun hearing what people have to say, a sort of everybody gets
a chance to flame everybody else.
Anyway, I have just reviewed the results, and want to assure
everyone that I don't think anyone will be surprised about
anything, and the WINNERS in the less-than-attractive categories
would probably be the first to vote themselves in, and maybe
even proud of getting chosen.
.
Sometimes, I don't understand how the world works, you know?
.
And, if something looks embarrassing to someone, I just won't
post it....  I do have a little sense, you know?
.
--ggs (misguided maybe, but mean *NOT*....)
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: He's baaaaack!
Date: 2 Oct 1992 03:48:11 GMT
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In a previous article, "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 " (815) says:

>If anyone hasn't yet heard, Ross Perot is back in the race.
>
>Steve Karlson
>
Steve, Arsenio just did his monologue and mentioned it - and would not
have been surprised if H. Ross had been back *out* of the race by air time.
<grin>
Do you think he has a chance of winning, or is he just going in as a 
spoiler?  The question being, who's he spoiling things for?  

Besides the late night talk show hosts, who have to  throw out a lot of
political material?:-)

-- 
		###	Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###
			- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
	      Where anything can happen, and it usually does
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Date:         Sun, 27 Sep 1992 10:17:54 -0500
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Blinking Lights
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On Sun, 27 Sep 1992, Entropy Warrior wrote:

> > In my experience, there are no faster drivers than attorneys, unless they
> > are attorneys who are also politicians.
> >
> > -abh
>
> Gotta drive fast to get to the hospital before the ambulance.

Next time I'm feeling expansive, I'll tell you about the time I got a ride
back to Edinburg from San Antonio (where I had been attending the wedding
of an Episcopal priest) with an attorney who was a former state senator
and how he managed to, with the aid of a 500 c.i.d. Cadillac Sedan de
Ville, set a new land speed record, turning what is usually a 4.5 hour
trip into a 2.5 hour one. And no, we never saw a cop, but his traveling
partner, equipped a similar Cadillac, did.

-abh
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:34:00 CDT
From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
 <TA0SHK1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: banned computer material (long)

Thanks for the information about the e-thought controllers, Marty.

"disusered???"  "Disusered??"  Pah.

Steve Karlson

Luff 'em and leave 'em
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 08:27:38 -0500
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Question for Ronin re: VMI
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Ronin, dear, what were those little pointers you had for me when writing a
message to VMI's postmaster? I think I'm about to step down off my
pedestal and take your advice. Do us a favor: post them to the list.
We can all benefit from your experience.

-abh
*oink*
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 02:05:12 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject: Re: I *KNOW* WHO YOU ARE

> (hmmm, might be a good name for a horror flick:
> Night of the Unread.
>
> Marty

Have to go over to LITERARY for that horror flick, Marty.

-Mka
From: haycock@marley.think.com (Anne Haycock)
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Subject: Re: borders
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:27:37
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In-reply-to: The Ronin's message of Fri, 2 Oct 1992 10:27:35 -0600

Pearls of wisdom from The Ronin:

   Tattered Cover, a local independent, but not exactly small.  When a
   near-by department store left its building, TC moved in and filled all
   four floors.  It is run the way a book store should be.  Regular
   signings and readings from local and national authors.  Chairs so that
   one can browse the books.  An incredibly knowledgable staff with a
   well-done computer system for tracking availibility.  Just make sure
   you never let your checkbook/chargecard/wallet make the trip with you.
   It would be a very expensive mistake.

The minute I saw this thread I wanted to post what the ever-vigilant Ronin
did above...but I couldn't remember the name.  

The Tattered Cover is a book-lovers paradise.  You can ensconce yourself in
one of the many chairs which beckon you to them, losing track of time and
troubles.  It's easy to lose track of $$ as well, as you gather rosebuds
where you may only to find the thorns as you total up the bill...my father
won't let my mother go alone.  (need I mention who ends up with most of the
books at the end????!!!!)

Besides the Tattered Cover in Denver, there is Aion in Boulder, across the
street from The Sink (which used to be Herbies, which used to be The
Sink...)

Bye,

//anne//
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:34:53 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject: Re: ATEP (31 - 32)
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              92 12:08 am

	Fascinating!  Nico will be thrilled to find out that he got
a vote for most interesting pet.. I was hoping to place higher for
nastiest to newbies..  I mean, I practically campaigned for it.


Rita
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:33:28 CDT
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Semaphores

"Semaphores", by extension of meaning, refers to certain variables used for
communication between processes. I don't know too much about this, but
basically they are used to prevent undesirable conditions in a timeshared
system.

When several processes are sharing a CPU, you cannot just stop a process
at any time for the next-in-line process to take over. There are certain
portions of processes which have to be completed within a single time slice
(so time-sharing processes don't get CPU times assigned in clockwork
regularity). Semaphores are one way of getting the "critical" portions of
a process done in one contiguous slice of time. I suspect they are variables
which essentially signal something like "not to be interrupted" vs "can be
interrupted" although of course the real thing must be more complicated.

tushar
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Date:         Sat, 26 Sep 1992 11:16:04 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Contrapositives

> Pure-dee truth!  the man *and* his supervisors (I can't bring myself to
> call them 'superiors') should have been court-martialed.  Then shot.  Or
> at least staked out in Saharan anthills.
>
> --bayla

But only for obstruction of justice.  The Reagan administration should have
simply come clean about it all--with pride, even.  It was a very clever plan
that was probably quite legal--we'll never know what the courts might have
said about the Bolen Amendment, the private/Israeli financing arrangements,
in short, everything.  Arms for hostages?  Bibles and birthday cakes?  Swiss
bank accounts?  The only thing that really looked bad was that most of the
money raised by Secord et al was still sitting in Switzerland--only about 2
mil ever made it to the Contras?  17 just lying around?

-Mka
The difference between America and Europe is that America has no professional
criminal class--except for Congress.
                         -Mark Twain

Let us be thankful for the fools, but for whom the rest of us could not
succeed.
                         Ibid.

<:-]
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:40:51 EDT
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: Strange news

On Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:22:00 PST Lobstrosities Unite said:
>
>Please say it isn't so!  There are few, if any, people who could play a
>convincing Lestat.  Actually, Daniel Day Lewis could probably do a very
>convincing job, or maybe Christopher Lambert.  He has the correct accent.
>
>Chris

Who would be a good Louis?  I'm hoping that Kyle MacLachlan will play him.

Evelyn
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:48:19 CDT
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (61)

>Mabon is the name given by Wiccans to the holiday celebrated on the autumn
>equinox.  The standard explanation for the name is that it is from the
>Welsh for "son." (Any Welsh-speakers who can confirm that?)

Then what was it doing in the thread on male bondage? I thought "mabon"
was a short form.

tushar
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
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Subject:      Reverse E-Opps

Think I just sent something private E-Mail I meant to go to WORDS-L.

That's OK, Ruth's a good sport.

                            Peace,
                                  Don
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Date: 26 Sep 92 14:27:40 GMT
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I agree with Ruth about Baptist churches:  They won't let women preach
or teach adult Sunday school classes.  I used to be a Baptist.

Evelyn
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 07:17:00 PDT
From:         Emily Horning <ECZ5EJH%UCLAMVS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (61)

> 'Maseu ka' is an old-fashioned way of writing.  It reminds me of a
> seventy-year-old man :-).
>
> Keep up your good work, <Bernard-chan>.
>
> Now, Gleanings (61).  Yoroshiku onegai itashimasu. (I hope you will
> kindly answer my Gleanings.) :-)  <<<<<<<<<<Thank you>>>>>>>>>>
>
> Last Week's Mail
>
> 23) CD'A Press (Elwood)

The local newspaper in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho.

> 30) ODCC (Marilyn)

Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church



Emily <ecz5ejh@mvs.oac.ucla.edu>
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:59:47 CDT
From:         "(Natalie Maynor)" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      re: Tushar's Test
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> it some time ago.  She also mentioned that she'd passed on some hints to you
> about how to fake internet mail from Steph...

Not that anybody asked my opinion, but I believe that faking mail from real
people is a BIG net no-no -- maybe the biggest -- unless it's being done for
some clearcut reason at that person's request.  I've faked mail from real
people on a few occasions when helping them with listserv commands (in
relation to other lists obviously) -- e.g., when somebody is desperately
trying to sub or unsub from a list and can't seem to manage sending the
simplest of listserv commands.  Other legitimate uses of faked mail are
things like the time I realized that I had forgotten one list when unsubbing
from lists the day my userid was about to change from nm1 to maynor.  After
the change, nm1 could not, of course, send mail (but could and still can
receive mail because of an alias file).  When I realized that I had forgotten
to unsub from one list, I faked mail from nm1 to take care of it.  Otherwise,
all my faking is very clearly and jokingly fake.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
From: haycock@marley.think.com (Anne Haycock)
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Date: 29 Sep 92 10:52:16
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In-reply-to: tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU's message of Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:21:10 CDT

Tushar asks:

   In what situations can one open the trunk from the inside of a car
   and not need to get out of the car?


When you have someone else to get the stuff out of the trunk for you.  You
drove, they unload.  Fair's fair.

//anne//
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Date:         Sat, 26 Sep 1992 17:26:00 EST
From:         "(Alec D. Plotkin)" <185422285@CATS.UCIS.VILL.EDU>
Subject: Re: A Bigger Carrot
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>>
>> icons.  Maybe I'll get into icon-clicking if technology develops enough
>> that clicking an icon will cause a naked man to hop out of the computer.
>> But not just *any* naked man.
>>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

>Yup, he's gotta be SENSITIVE.

>rashmi

All real words-l men are sensitive. Right guys?


later

alec
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:24:44 CDT
From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      If it really was Chris
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...I'm just a-gonna lay myself down and cry. But I still don't believe it
was anyone but Tushar.

-abh
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Greetings, Ronin,

Well said.

Marty
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Date:         Sat, 3 Oct 1992 07:31:23 -0500
From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: A Story Coming Up
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On Sat, 3 Oct 1992, (Bayla Singer) wrote:
>
> A <bitter> brew with a *grandchild* in it??!!  Oh, Nooooo, say it isn't so!
>
*I* don't believe it...not for one minute!
ndh (who is just leaving to go see the granddaughter who laughed for the
first time yesterday)
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
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>> P.S. I am looking forward to meeting Karen, Karsten and Marilyn Garber this
>> Friday for dinner at the Border Grill in Santa Monica - any wordslers in the
>> LA area are welcome to join us!!
> And the rest of us will be expecting a full report!

No chance.  I'm bringing Beano.

--karsten

(Any sonic booms will be from that secret aircraft that keeps
 flying near LA.)
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