From: niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent)
Subject: Re: James Baker
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 05:49:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.212812.4100@desire.wright.edu> demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes:
>In article <1992Sep14.181807.29941@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>, golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
>> In article <1992Sep14.114727.7279@hemlock.cray.com> rja@redwood26.cray.com (Russ Anderson) writes:

>>>If Bush really needs James Baker to save his campaign (ie create
>>>a domestic program for Bush to run on), why not dump the middle
>>>man (Bush) and have Baker run for prosident.

>> The James Baker who failed to reveal his stock in a major American
>> bank while he was negotiating a bailout of South American debt to
>> First World Banks, 

>	Hasn't JB III had his money in a blind trust since joining the Reagan
>team?

>> the James Baker who was Secretary of the Treasury
>> while nothing was done about the S&L crisis in Reagan's second term,

>	Not his job.

Why not?

>> the James Baker who presided over the Willie Horton campaign, the

>	What Willie Horton campaign?  The media one or Al Gore's?

The one in which Lee Atwater and Roger Ailes said "By the time this
campaign is done, we want to make Willie Horton a household name."  ThAT
ONE.  Lee Atwater apologized for it before he died; why can't George Bush?

>> James Baker who was Secretary of State while the US encouraged,
>> financed, and armed Saddam Hussein, 

>	Encouraged?  How?
>	Armed?  What weapons?

Well, giving them agricultural subsidies when we *knew* they were being
used to buy weapons, as well as allowing exports of military equipment
to Iraq by deleting the word "military" from the required documents.

Not to mention interfering with the prosecution of people involved with
BNL in Atlanta because it would be embarassing to Bush.

(And it isn't the so-called liberal media reporting this.  The NYT and
Washington Post have been ignoring this story.  Only William Safire,
ex-NIXON aide, has been covering these events.)

>> and encouraged Milosovic by
>> saying the US preferred maintaining Yugoslavian territorial integrity,

>	Define Yugoslavia.  Present Serbia, Montengero & Vendjova (sp?) or the
>old pre-fall communist state.

When he said it, it was just before Slovenia and Croatia had seceded.
(Germany was in favor of recognizing these new countries; Baker's speech
encouraged Milosovic to send forces against them.)

>> and tried preventing Gorbachev's Soviet Union from collapsing...
>> this James Baker?

>	Preventing the SU from collapsing?  Explain.

He went to the Ukraine and made a speech about how awful nationalism was,
thereby encouraging the conservatives to use force to prevent the
secession of the Baltics.

And, you forgot, James Baker, who claimed we were cutting ties with
China in protest over Tiennamen when we actually had our National
Security Advisor, Scowcroft, toasting the leadership in Beijing.

-- 
David M. Nieporent   | Orioles 1992 World Series Champions
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