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From: meb@sally.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Brodsky)
Subject: Re: Paramount Press Release - TNG - #238: Ship In A Bottle
Reply-To: mark-brodsky@nwu.edu
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 19:05:33 GMT

In article <4735@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
> 
> 
> Ship In A Bottle
> _P_R_O_G_R_A_M_ _H_I_G_H_L_I_G_H_T_S
> 
> 	STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION: "Ship in a Bottle" -- A calculating
> 	Sherlock Holmesian character traps Picard and others in a holodeck
> 	simulation.
>
Araggggg, another Holodeck show. Why don't they just seal the damm thing up,  
it's caused far more problems then the Romulan's or the Borg. I for one am  
tiered of this plot device. Along with "Fist Full of Datas" this makes two  
holodeck shows in three months! They should be original or just show reruns!
--
"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not  
sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
-Richard Nixon 
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From: gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (just another theatre geek)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: People who like Kira
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:52:57 GMT
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Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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In article <1993Jan12.180300.8337@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> wc9583@writer.yorku.ca (J.Marc Chabot) writes:
>
>The one comment that seems to come up again and again about her
>performance was that she "overacted" the "freedom fighter bit".  I
>have to disagree.  I have personally known active members of three
>separate liberation movements (the IRA, PLO and FLQ) and let me tell
>you, they often tend to act like that.

	Hmmmm.....this might be the key, then.

	Having done more than my share of time in radical and fringe
movements, I've seen A LOT of people who are shrill, strident, on the edge
and overplaying their role. Not everyone's like that, of course, but
radical movements do tend to attract people who go "over the top."


-- 
Roger Tang, gwangung@u.washington.edu
Producer Emeritus, Asian Theatre at the UW, Uncle Bonsai Memorial Fan Club
	"The definition of balls is for a non-singer to go karaoke singing
with the cast of a musical revue."
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From: charles@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Charles Jacob Cohen)
Subject: Re: The Counselor in Uniform
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:43:36 GMT

Hey, here is a novel concept.  Why doesn't Troi wear what ever it is
*she* wants to wear, if the Captain lets her during duty.  Let it
be *her* choice, after all, she is the one wearing the clothes.

- Chuck

-- 
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reason, and intellect, had intended for us to forgo their use." - Galileo
"I'm an engineer, not a dictionary!" - Me
From: clippy@bnr.ca (Dwayne Clipperton)
Subject: Re: Replacement for Picard
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:25:32 GMT

In article <ewright.726169263@convex.convex.com>, ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
|> In <jgasaway-010193123121@mac20-152.ncsa.uiuc.edu> jgasaway@ncsa.uiuc.edu (James Gasaway) writes:
|> 
|> >The reason has been mentioned before, and it answers your question very
|> >well.  The Enterprise is the flagship of the federation--it would be
|> >ridiculous to put someone in command of this ship who has *never* been a
|> >captain before.  
|> 
|> It has also been mentioned that Riker *was* a Captain before.  Of the
|> Enterprise, no less.  In Best of Both Worlds, he was promoted to the
|> rank of Captain and give command (not "temporary command") of the Enterprise.
|> 

May be a petty point, Riker has been second in command for several seasons
(some number of years).  I haven't been watching with enough criticism to
note if he has the talent to act lead role.  (is his acting inferior to Mr.
Stewart's or does he play-down the character?)

|> 
|> >Career-wise, Riker was stupid to refuse three offers for a
|> >captain's position on other vessels.  
|> 
|> Agreed.  It would be interesting to see the writers incorporate this
|> into the show, with Riker getting passed over for command because he
|> waited too long, getting increasingly anxious, etc.
|> 

I would like to offer a different point of view regarding Riker's turned
down offers.  Patience is probably high on the list of a requirements.
Such a strong show of patience could be what it takes to get the job.

Don't you think that Q would make an interresting captain?


Dwayne Clipperton.
clippy@bnr.ca
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From: Kevin.Karmann@bridge.omahug.org (Kevin Karmann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Picard's Book.
Date: 05 Jan 93 16:32:20 CST
Reply-To: kevin.karmann@bridge.omahug.org
Organization: The Bridge, Bellevue, Ne
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current

>         My last question was answered so well, that I  
> decided to ask another -- What is the book in Picard's 
> Ready Room?  Twice I have seen direct reference to it - 
> in "Chain of Command" the replacement captain gives it 
> to Picard, and in the episode of the phony historian  
> time travelilng. 
 
The Complete Works of William Shakespeare.
From: odlin@reed.edu (Iain Odlin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Deep Review 9: "The Emissary" (SPOILERS)
Date: 8 Jan 93 00:30:31 GMT
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In article <1993Jan7.215630.3192@cci632.cci.com> tvf@cci632.cci.com (Tom Frauenhofer) writes:
>Lessen the mass using a shield of some kind?  Sorry, I don't buy it.

  Watch the TNG episode "Deja Q" and all will be explained.  I thought it was
  a nice bit of continuity.
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From: tvf@cci632.cci.com (Tom Frauenhofer)
Subject: Re: Deep Review 9: "The Emissary" (SPOILERS)
Organization: Northern Telecom, Network Applications Systems, Rochester, NY
Distribution: world,local
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:37:29 GMT

In article <79387@hydra.gatech.EDU> ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:
>In article <1ihmedINNkvp@shelley.u.washington.edu> gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang) writes:
>
>>	Besides, if it was selfish, it's a character flaw....which makes
>>her an IMPERFECT character. Thought we wanted that....
>
>I don't mind greedy, like Quark.
>I don't mind immature, like then new doctor.
>I don't mind selfish, even, if it's not going to put the entire space station
>   at risk.
>
>But this?  Keep that up, Kira dear, and the show won't last to the end of
>January.  She'll get them all killed.
>
>Even Kirk had a back door.  What would have happened if the wormhole hadn't
>opened up at that moment?  The station and everyone in it would have been
>destroyed.  And for what?  Nothing except the need for revenge of one woman.

BZZEEP!  In "the Corbomite Manoeuvor" all Kirk was doing was buying
time.  If Balok had been a nasty it would've been over.  And the same
thing for (I forget the name of the episode, the one where Kirk,
McCoy, Spock, and Scotty age real fast) when he used the Corbomite
trick on the Romulans in the neutral zone.  And don't forget, the
Enterprise at least had the possibility of outrunning any nasty
problem (Warp Engines help).

>True, they were saved, but through no action of hers.

She did as much action as Kirk did, above.

--
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From: dkrause@miami.acs.uci.edu (Doug Krause)
Subject: Re: Comments on DS9 "Emissary" **SPOILERS**
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 6 Jan 93 11:43:29 GMT

In article <1993Jan05.200231.16391@watson.ibm.com> kehleyr@vnet.ibm.com writes:
#The character reminded me of the Shadout Mapes (or something like that) from
#Dune - might even be the same actress.  All mysterious and vague 
#and short and vaguely funny looking.

The DSN woman was not Linda Hunt.  But I did hear that Linda will be
in "Space Rangers".

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From: wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Patrick Chester)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Shuttle craft on DS9
Date: 8 Jan 93 00:32:40 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <SS.93Jan6140716@wpi.WPI.EDU> ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) writes:
]>>>>> On Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:40:44 GMT, tarun@psyclops.psyc.queensu.ca (Tarun Kripalani) said:
]
]tarun> The shuttle craft that was in DS9 seemed a bit larger than the
]tarun> ones on board the Enterprise. Are they much bigger?  How do
]tarun> they compare with the other shuttles that we have seen before?
]
]I got the impression it wasn't a shuttle, but a fully capable warp
]driven ship. Notice how it had large warp engines on it, that look

They were called "runabouts" or something like that.

]like the Enterprise engines. Not like the shuttles. Do shuttles even
]have warp power, or impulse, or both?

Some are impulse-only. Others also have a small warp drive.

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From: demillo@juliet.ll.mit.edu ( Robert DeMillo )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Odo in DS9 (**MINOR SPOILER**)
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:13:50 GMT
	<1993Jan7.120841@usho72.hou281.chevron.com>
Organization: M.I.T. Lincoln Lab: Fine Food and Coffee

In article <1993Jan7.120841@usho72.hou281.chevron.com> hhtra@usho72.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock) writes:
>|> 	
>|>  1) If he's only imitating human form (humanoid isn't his natural
>|>  shape I'm told) why isn't he more human looking??

> I wondered about this too.  He even says he just assumes his (humaniod)
> appearence just to fit in.  If so, then why doesn't he look Bajorian (sp?)
> or Cardassian or handsome?  No one else looks like him, so that isn't 
> trying too hard to fit it, is it?

I remember reading an article that said that he is "trying" to 
look humanoid, but he can't quite do it. There are too many 
humanoids with different facial features around him and he 
can't quite pull it off...so his face is featureless.

I get the impression that he's not really good and pulling his 
form together for very long and that he hasn't quite "got the 
hang of it."





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From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Subject: Re: Troi Smut????
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:39:11 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

Ok, to clear up my role in this.. I have had the "other" smut pictures ID'd
and after some detailed analysis by a professional graphic artist, they are
(to no surprise to some here, I'm sure) FAKED.  The are very good fakes, as
it was not noticed a couple years ago when I first came accross them.  It
appears, then, I was caught up in this hype as much as anyone.  The nude in
one is actually her (from Death Wish III, I believe) with another person
placed in the picture to make it appear porn..  Sorry for getting anyone's
hopes up... and don't bother to flame me, I'll just ignore anyone who can't
understand a mistake or thinks that they don't make any.

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From: zing@wilber.rich.nt.com (Leon Z. Lee)
Subject: Ceslla 3 Massacre in DP9 ?
Organization: Northern Telecom, Inc.
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:24:00 GMT

After watching DP9 last night...I got a question.  When the 3 Cardasian
warships were about to attack the station...I believe Doc. Bashir asked
whether it would be good idea to surrender...O'Brian replied that
"have you ever heard of the Ceslla 3 massacre". This implied that the
Cardasians were responsible for the massacre instead of the Gorn.  

I thought the Ceslla 3 massacre was shown in the 1966 ST espisode titled
"Arena" when Kirk met the Gorn for the 1st time.
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From: bf911@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David J Mulligan Jr)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The worms within...
Date: 4 Jan 1993 23:06:28 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bf911@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David J Mulligan Jr)
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Possible Spoilers.....


In a previous article, mcelroy@bu.edu (Carl Mackin) says:

>U15289@uicvm.uic.edu wrote:
>: In DS9, Lt. Dax's backstory states she is a wormlike species squatting in a
>: humanoid body.  Does anyone know if the worm, in this case, is the same species
>: that figured in an episode of TNG, in which Dr. Crusher was romantically in-
>: volved with a man who was also a host for a wormlike creature (an ambassador
>: of some sort), who had to be parked in Riker's body temporarily until the
>: new host (a woman, who ended the episode by saying she loved Beverly) arrived?
>: 
>:                                               Mitch Pravatiner
>:                                               U15289@uicvm.uic.edu
>
>
>could this be a SPOILER
>

Could be, but not to me.  I'd say it would be a spoiler if you haven't read
anything prior to the the premiere.  Of course, we won't know if we're are
supposed to know this beforehand until we see the episode, but.....it is
supposed to be a Trill, the same species as was in the TNG episode, to
answer the original question.
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From: ac999239@umbc3.umbc.edu (ac999239)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Shuttle Craft Warp??
Date: 6 Jan 1993 19:22:16 -0500
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
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>> In Relics Scotty gets a shuttle craft to wander in.  Does it have warp
>> abilities or is it going to take him forever and a year to get anywhere?

> In all likely hood its one of the crafts that is capable of warp 2, however,
> in the next gen tech manual, most of those shuttles can maintain warp 2 for
> no more than 48 hours...

If I know Scotty he'll have it going Warp 3 or better for as long as he needs
it ;)
From: alyon@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (arthur alexander lyon)
Subject: Re: Female CO for the E II
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 18:40:15 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.174426.15714@panix.com> fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller) writes:
>In <890091b.34.726241029@axe.acadiau.ca> 890091b@axe.acadiau.ca (HEIDI JILL BURKHOLDER) writes:
>
>>>I know there have also been plenty of men shown as idiots on the show, but
>>>I'm trying to remember when a woman was portrayed as *REALLY SMART* or
>>>competent or a good female role model.  Can anyone help me with this?
>
>>	Do you watch the show? I think that having a woman design the ship's 
>>engine system and that having a woman in charge of security are two 
>>excellent examples of female role models. Then there is Dr. Krusher who can 
>>heal anything and her entire medical team (or so it would appear) of women.
>>I  don't feel excluded and don't understand why you do.
>
>Let's not forget that the show has portrayed many ADMIRALS as women.
>One of them was even BLACK.
>
>The show very very clearly makes the point that women have made it in the
>24th century.
>
>
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All I can say is that I was really dissapointed in Roddenberry, et al,
when Next Generation premiered and they couldn't even swing a female
second-in-command, especially twenty-some odd years after the test
audiences and the network blew the Majel Barret as Number One idea out
of the water back in '65. You'd think they would have gotten around to
it by now. Grantedm they finally got around to it in DS9, I guess, but
sheesh-how long did it take, 28 years?
From: ac999239@umbc3.umbc.edu (ac999239)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Keiko?
Date: 7 Jan 1993 14:56:54 -0500
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
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It's clear O'Brien is now on DS9, but where is his wife and kid? Are they
staying on the Enterprise or are they with him and jyst haven't been seen.

I don't remember any mention of this during the episode unless I wasn't paying
close attention.
From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Question about DS9: Emissary
Date: 11 Jan 1993 18:10:02 GMT
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In <1993Jan11.092133@is.morgan.com> davidk@is.morgan.com writes:
SPOILERS...

.

> I have 1 interesting question..........		
> 
> Toward the end of DS9, the part when the 3 Cardassian warships were
> going to destroy the Space Station and the order was given for the 6 Photon 
> torpedoes from the Station to be fired across the bow of one of the Card-
> assian ships.......	
> Since these Photon torpedoes could be fired with such accuracy,	
> why not 2 to each Cardassian ship. That would have destroyed them	
> easily. After all, the Station was being fired upon.

  1.  The station was not being fired upon when the torps were shot off.  It
    WAS being threatened.
  2.  A photon is not the ultimate weapon.  It is quite nasty, but I think two
    would not have been enough to destroy the Card ships, and there is no
gauruntee (sp) that all 6 would have hit their various targets, considering the
shape of the station.  The Cards did have shields up, I believe.


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
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From: paul@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Paul Beatrice)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:09:56 GMT
Subject: Re: DS9 - in San Jose (bay area) - Where ??? When ???
Organization: the HP Mtn.View Resp. Cntr.
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How about this thursday jan 7th at 8pm on KBHK, TV 44.

Paul Beatrice
From: tallman@ailanthus.com (Robert Oliver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Vulcan Captain??? (Major Mistake!!!)
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:42:31 GMT
Reply-To: tallman@ailanthus.com (Robert Oliver)
Organization: Ailanthus Project

abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick) writes:

> In <1ihv50INNeg1@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> holland@geop.ubc.ca (Stephen Holland) writ
> 
> > 
> >In article 726386491@cunews, abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick) writes:
> >>
> >>Now how the hell did the captain die at Wolf 359 and then show up at the
> >>Academy. I find it hard to believe that anyone escaped Wolf 359 (The Borg
> >>were pretty thorough.) but Emissary made it pretty clear that the Vulcan
> >>was dead. Have I overlooked anything?
> >>
> >Well... Spock died and then came back to life.  Perhaps the Vulcan captain
> >did the old mind meld thing with one of the Saratoga's crew before he was bl
> >into little pieces.  That crewmember escaped and managed to return to
> >Star Fleet HQ.  Star Fleet then used the transporter trace to construct
> >a new body for the Vulcan, took the crewmember and the new body to the
> >Vulcan temple in Star Trek III, and voila!  Vulcan reincarnation!  
> 
> I would almost buy that (this is Science Fiction after all) except that the
> Captain died VERY suddenly. (In mid-speech in fact.) Now if you were to say
> that before Wolf 359, the Captain visited the planet where Roger Croby made
> his robotic clones, made one of himself which either died at Wolf 359 or
> ended up at the Academy then I'd accept that!
> 
> No I wouldn't!!! But it would at least be "possible". :)
> 
> Alan Bick

The Vulcan captain in "The First Duty" and the Vulcan captain of the 
Saratoga in "Emissary" were played by *2* different people. Check out the 
end credits of "Emissary" and the TNG companion for the names of the 
actors.

........
Robert Oliver, tallman@ailanthus.com
via Ailanthus Project +1 207-989-6562 - Brewer, Maine.
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From: ternent@oima2.oim.uiuc.edu (John Ternent)
Subject: Re: `Cheers woman
Organization: Office for Information Management, University of Illinois
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 20:25:20 GMT

In article <C0K76w.277@world.std.com> mdm@world.std.com (Michael D Meachen) writes:

>Cheerswise I can remember two other instances where cheers cast members
>have appeared in episodes.  Dr. Strernan-Crane played the podded role of
>Riker's alien lover if I remember correctly.  And didn't Frazer Crane have
>command of a star ship at one point??
>Any appearances from Norm you can think of?
>mm

Yes, wasn't Crane the captain of the starship that comes through a rip in 
the continuum and destroys the Enterprise, which then gets caught in the 
time loop?

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From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: Replacement for Picard
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 06:54:07 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1993Jan09.055545.3719@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu> msmallwo@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (M. Lee Smallwood) writes:

>That was EXACTLY my point in saying that he was 'stripped' of
>his rank. (IMHO) He *certainly* was stripped of the rank. No
>one freely gives up rank. 

So?  Are you saying James T. Kirk was a nobody?

>Of course, all of these would need major plot developments
>before they happened. Also, Roe would not be bad. 

Never cared much for caviar myself. :-)


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From: Douglas B. Johnson <djohnso@staff.tc.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: DSN uniforms
Organization: CIS-WBCS U of Minnesota
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