From: 891078p@ace.acadiau.ca (Trevor Perkins)
Newsgroups: rec.games.board
Subject: Re: A&A: Allies buy how many dice?
Keywords: A&A
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:54:11 GMT
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Organization: Acadia University

In article <obbe.717939575@galaxy> obbe@ph.tn.tudelft.nl (Obbe Vermey) writes:
>From: obbe@ph.tn.tudelft.nl (Obbe Vermey)
>Subject: Re: A&A: Allies buy how many dice?
>Keywords: A&A
>Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 11:39:35 GMT
>Hello Dewey,
>
>>strategy.  I simply don't like it...   But.  If no technology is
>>attempted, the UK and US can each buy 2 more bombers in the first round.
>>Also, the UK can raid on turn 1.  Now, assuming that turn 1 is one of
>>the 5/6 chance that the AA misses, the UK bomber survives and takes out
>>3.5 IPCs (you have 3,5 -- a typo I assume?).  So, the German player has

A 5/6 chance that the AA will miss do seem like good odds for success, but 
in my experience the AA are incredibly accurate when the chips are down. 
(luck ?)  I have found I usually lose more than I gain. I am still crazy 
enough to keep trying this strategy, though.  When it works, the results are 
fantastic

>>lost 1 infantry, perhaps an armor by not having those IPCs.  For round
>>2, there are 4 bombers (3UK, 1US) to raid.  Also, the UK gets at least 1
>>more, the US 2 more.  Let's lose 1 bomber now to AA.  Three get through,
>>taking out (about) 10 IPCs.  Next round, there are a total of 6 bombers
>>available, 5 get through, (about) 17 IPCs gone for Germany.  So, by
>>round 4, Germany has most likely lost Ukraine, Finland, maybe East
>>Europe.  Let's have UK abandon India to strengthen Africa (thus, a
>>"Germany first" aproach) from the start of the game, so Africa is lost
>>as well for the Germans (I suppose we'll have wiped out the German Med
>>fleet with the UK fighters by now).  So, Germany has an income of 22, 25
>>if East Europe is still theirs.  So, the Germans are operating on (at
>>best) 25 IPCs, minus the raids, which come in around 17, so there are
>>only 8IPCs to work with per turn.  And, as more bombers come in, the
>>numbers fall quickly.  Under this kind of pressure, the Germans will be
>>hard pressed to mount an offensive against the USSR.  In fact, the USSR
>>will probably be mounting an attack of their own.  If this continues,
>>the Germans will have no production and will fall fairly quickly.
>
>The Germans can still conquer Africa even if the Brits move in
>their indian troops.(The Germans will have to take the 2 italians
>to Africa the first turn and another 2 the in the 2nd).

If the British use the battleship and sub in round one to take out the 
German navy in the Med ( provided Germany hasn't already taken these out ), 
the German supply line to Africa will be cut off after round one and the 
British can clean up Africa at their leasure.


>If the Brits move out there is no stopping Japan. It's the question
>whether Germany can hold Europe long enough. With no British/USA
>troops coming in by boot that shouldn't be much of a problem I think.
>The first 2 turns germany has all its money to spend (exept 3.5)
>so germany can buy around 20 soldiers. This should be a barrier
>big enough to stop the Russians for a while.
>
>>I think the key here is that even with average losses of bombers on the
>>part of the Allies, they can better afford those losses than the
>>Germans can afford losing the IPCs.  After all, if you do it this way,
>>it's 3 on 1 and you can afford such losses.
>
>Don't forget that the bombers the USA buys in the 1st turn costs
>Germany production in the 4th. (2nd turn to fly them to England,
>3rd turn to bomb and since Germany proceeds USA, Germany loses
>tanks in the 4th) That gives Germany time to buy men to dig in and
>wait for Japan.

One US bomber can fly to the UK in the 1st round and be ready to strike on 
the 2nd.

>Maybe it's better for england to buy 2 bombers in the 1st turn and
>transporters in the 2nd (if they've got a Battleship left). You
>need to get in there and destroy the German groundforces. Russia
>won't be able to do that on it's own I guess.

Very true.  You still have to get rid of the troops already there, unless 
Germany was crazy enough to move them all to meet the USSR


>Next time I play the Allies I'll try something like this. But I'm
>not so sure. Isn't there a cheap way to block Japan for a while ?
>
>						Obbe.

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