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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:53:05 EDT
From:         elaine moore <MOORE2@WKYUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Professional Staffing

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I would like to add some additional information regarding staffing at
our reference desk to clarify my response of July 21 to Todd Yeager's
July 15 request.  Maggi Joseph also pointed out that I did not indicate
the number of staff serving at the desk, although this was not specific-
ally asked for by Todd.  I've been unsuccessful sending mail direct to
either Todd or Maggi so will send to the list.

We had a total of 13 staff serving at the desk last spring, 3 less than
during the fall.  This was due to the department head's decision to
eliminate Library Assistants at the desk except for the reference LA.
The total includes 4 reference librarians (including the supervisor);
2 coordinators; 4 librarians from other units; the department head (for
2 hours/week); one retired librarian as volunteer for 3 hours/week; and
the reference LA.

Out total desk staff numbers therefore breakdown to:  11 professional;
1 paraprofessional; and 1 volunteer.  We also have student assistants
as backup during busy periods; they also serve alone at the desk during
slack periods (last hour during the evening; dinner break) for up to
12 hours per week.
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From:         RANDALL BRINKHUIS 202-260-3944
              <BRINKHUIS.RANDALL@epamail.epa.gov>
Subject:      Hazardous Substances Data Bank

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          HSDB - Hazardous Substances Data Bank is available through the
          National Library of Medicine's TOXNET system.  You can contact them
          at 1-800-272-4787.  You will reach an automated voice mail system.
          Press 4, then 2, then 3 to talk to a staff specialist about HSDB
          and TOXNET.

          HSDB is also available on SilverPlatter's CHEM-BANK CD-ROM along
          with RTECS (Registry of Toxic Effects of Chemical Substances -
          NIOSH) and a couple of other databases.

          Randy Brinkhuis
          Reference Librarian (Contractor)
          U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
          Office of Pollution Prevention and Toxics Library
          TS-793, Room NE-B002
          401 M St., SW
          Washington, DC  20460
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 08:50:54 EDT
From:         II13@UNTVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: your favorite for core list, please

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You probably already have all the following authors, but here it is anyway.
A list of writers I believe to be essential to Native American Literature.

Louise Erdrich (The Beet Queen, Tracks, Love Medicine...)
Michael Dorris (Yellow Raft on Blue River, Columbus's Crown (?)...<- co-written
                with his wife, Lousie Erdrich)
Leslie Silko (Ceremony, Storyteller, Almanac of the Dead (?))
N. Scott Momaday (The Way to Rainy Mountain, The House Made of Dawn)

Hope these are helpful!
-mark main-
From: strickle@charon.usc.edu (David Strickler)
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Subject: Multimedia Packages
Date: 21 Jul 1992 13:49:19 -0700
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Keywords: MUltimedia

Please pardon cross postings to PACS-L and LIBREF-L.

     Having acquired new multimedia equipment, we are exploring
new products to run on it.  We are especially interested in
packages dealing with aspects of the humanities or social
sciences.  We are aware of the product line from Voyager and
Warner New Media, and have consulted with the Optical Publishing
Association.  (The latter told us that few computer-based were
being developed for the humanities, because humanities people
were very rarely computer literate.  Glad he cleared up that
confusion.)
     If any libraries are running multimedia products in the
humanities/social sciences, involving sound, graphics, and text,
or if you know of interesting new products, we'd appreciate you
dropping us a line.

Dave Strickler                     STRICKLE@USCVM
Doheny Library Reference           (213) 740 4039
University of Southern California
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:02:35 EDT
From:         ninadm@Athena.MIT.EDU
Subject:      Re: Publishing credit

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The question of how, whether, and when to walk the fine line between editing and
rewriting is one that I thought about a lot during the five years I served as
editor of the music review section of Music Library Association's quarterly
journal, _Notes_.  [And if there's anyone out there who is interested in things
musical and bibliographic, think about subscribing, or better yet, joining MLA!]
As far as I know, there are no universally accepted "ethical guidelines."  I
 know
that I was very concerned with preserving an author's "voice," for example.  On
the other hand, some of my reviewers were extremely well-known performers whose
writing really could use some sprucing up.  Doesn't it make them, the journal,
and the editor look bad if mistakes, or even just bad prose, creep into a
scholarly/professional journal?  On the other hand, I would NEVER tamper with
the contents of a review.  Matters of opinion should be left as the author has
stated them.  If the editor takes exception to a statement of fact, she/he
should either negotiate with the author prior to going to press, or print some
editorial disclaimer -- even a simple sic -- which is clearly recognizable as
emanating from the editor, not the author.

I took great pride in the number of thank-you letters I received from
contributors, who felt that my editorial changes improved their work.  But no, I
never considered myself a second author.  The editorial function is an important
one, and a challenging one if you do it right, but it is NOT the same as writing
the article!

Nina Davis-Millis
Associate Humanities Librarian, MIT
ninadm@athena.mit.edu
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 09:42:42 EDT
From:         Lynn Tinsley <lt0m+%ANDREW.CMU.EDU@CARNEGIE.BITNET>
Subject:      Reserve reading rooms
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I am interested in hearing from the community any ideas/experiences
with locating a Reserve Reading area outside of library buildings.
A fantasy proposal could be to locate reserve materials in a student
center facility.  Is anyone currently doing this?  If so, I would appreciate
hearing from you.  All pointers appreciated.

Lynn Tinsley
Carnegie Mellon University
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:17:00 EDT
From:         Lori Robare <lrobare@Willamette.EDU>
Subject: Re: Need Advice

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I'd suggest consulting with chemistry faculty before withdrawing the
*Beilsteins*.  We were considering moving our copy out of reference,
as it didn't seem to be used at all.  We found that one faculty member
felt very strongly about retaining it in the reference collection and
actually did refer his students to it, primarily for citations to
literature pre-Chemical Abstracts.

It seems unlikely that this type of use would justify retaining it
in a small junior college library, but some chemistry folk still
find *Beilsteins* useful.

Lori Robare
Willamette University Library
lrobare@willamette.edu
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 09:44:24 EDT
From:         Diana Boardman Houston <dhouston@tenet.edu>
Subject:      Conservation DistList

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I am interested in subscribing to Conservation DistList.  I'd appeciate
the address, if readers know!

Please respond to me directly at dhouston@tenet.edu.  Thanks!

Diana Houston
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 08:05:00 EDT
From:         MARIE@rpii.ie
Subject:      Re: De Selby

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John R. Likins (jrlikins@colby.edu) writes:

> "I'm looking for info on the little-known Irish scientist Thomas de Selby
> (1862-1939?).  All I have to go on is this brief entry from the Dictionary
> of Irish Biography (Dublin: Maunsel & Son, 1940):
>   DE SELBY, Thomas.  Thomas deSelby was perhaps the greatest scientific
> mind ever produced by Ireland -- but unfortunately, he was also one
> of its most eccentric and difficult.

... [ lots of stuff deleted ] ...

> >>>>>>>>Above is a query I received; can find no trace of this guy
>         in our ed of Dictionary of Irish biography (Dublin: Gill &
>         Macmillan, 1978), the NUC, or OCLC. Care to give it a try?
>

Thomas de Selby is a fictional character who appears in the novels
of Flann O'Brien ("The Third Policeman", "The Dalkey Archive").

Flann O'Brien (real name: Brian O'Nolan) was a well known Irish
novelist and columnist and wrote under the pen-name Myles na
Gopalleen for The Irish Times.


Marie Kelly (marie@rpii.ie)
Radiological Protection Institute of Ireland.
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 11:03:36 EDT
From:         QUINN@GONZAGA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: How to spell fascism

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So a book containing "fascisms" might include reproductions of
propoganda posters from Mussolini's Italy?

We have a common cataloging typo in the law library world that is almost
as good.  In the LC system (as everyone on THIS list undoubtedly knows),
American law is KF, and the law of any given U.S. state is, e.g., KFA
for Alaska or KFW for Washington.  Since the overwhelming majority of
the books in any U.S. law library are on American law, shelvers and
typists of every description are continually zoning out and placing
materials from other classes in KF.  This is particularly ironic
when materials dealing with the European Economic Community show up with
call number labels reading KFE (instead of KJE) -- implying that the EEC
is essentially the 51st state!

YIPEE!!!  RIDEM COWBOY!!!!  YAHOO!!!

James Quinn
Gonzaga University Law Library
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:04:37 EDT
From:         R James Tobin <tobin@csd4.csd.uwm.edu>
Subject:      Re: Reserve reading rooms
              22, 92 9:42 am

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One important consideration to put into the decision hopper:
if large numbers of books are going to have to be transported
across campus two or three times a year, in all weather
possibilities, do you have safe, sheltered loading access
at both ends?
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:01:47 EDT
From:         "Cynthia A. Hodgson 412-337-2434" <HODGSON1%A1@ALFIE.BITNET>
Subject:      Consultants Use of Library Services

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Ken Grabach writes in regard to the ethical use of information services:


<Another type of precedent can be in research contracts.  This might apply more
<in special libraries than academic.  When an institution with a library
<contracts with outside consultants to conduct research, the consultants are
<usually expected to find their information on their own efforts and from their
<own sources.  It is not considered proper to use materials from the
<institutions own library for the contracted research.  The result would be a
<form of double-taxation or payment.


Not necessarily.  When companies hire a consultant, they are hiring his/her
technical expertise not necessarily his/her information services and abilities.
In many cases, due to special contracts or volume discounts, our company can
get the same materials, database access, etc. less expensively than an
independent consultant or a small consulting firm.  (But not less than academia
since you guys get those BIG educational discounts.)  Since those costs would
just be passed on to the company anyway (sometimes with a profit margin added),
it is not at all unusual to allow the consultant to use the company's library
services and save the company some time and money.  The double payment would
only apply if the consultant's rate had information services and materials
built into it. This may be true if the consultant is a university, but not
generally with other types of consultants where those costs are in addition to
their hourly fee.

Cynthia A. Hodgson
Aluminum Company of America
Alcoa Technical Library
hodgson@alcoa.com
(412) 337-2434
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:59:38 EDT
From:         JBRUNVAN@UTAHLIB.BITNET
Subject:      Re: disposal of discarded materials horror stories

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We don't have any horror stories down here but Bob Holley had a good one
about science fiction paperback gifts at Yale.  I don't have his e-mail
address - if you do pass the message on to him.

                                                 Judy
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From:         JMONTAG@WITTENBG.BITNET
Subject:      RE: disposal of discarded materials horror stories

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When I was at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln in the early eighties, the
Documents Librarian got permission to dump older issues of Congressional Record
(that were also available in microform) to acquire aditional space in the
documents stacks.  A clerical staff member alerted the History Department about
the CRs in the dumpster behind the library, and students and faculty had their
pictures in the school newspaper the following week retrieving the discarded
items and hauling them to a room up in the department's office area.  More than
a year later the Dean of Libraries resigned his title in an unrelated matter
and was succeeded temporarily by a former Chair of the History Department.  The
documents librarian was long gone to a more prestigious university.  Some
months after taking over, the acting Dean announced the impending return of the
CRs to the stacks, and when that finally occurred, more than one and half years
after the initial event, staff discovered that the vacated shelves were still
empty and the former residents were put back where they had been without
requiring a major shift.

I was always struck by the multiplicity of planning and public relations errors
that characterized this series of events, and your request for horror stories
brought it once more to mind.  If anything is unclear, or you would like
additional detail, please let me know.
matter and the University appointed a former chair of the History Department as
the acting Dean.  We also had a different documents librarian, the former one
having moved elsewhere to a more prestigious school.  Some months after the new
dean arrived, he announced that the CRs would be returned to the stacks.  Aft
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:44:50 EDT
From:         Raleigh Muns <SRCMUNS@UMSLVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Query: users of Micrologue College Catalogs?

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We have been using Micrologue's College Catalog collection on microfiche
for about 2 years here in the Reference Department. I am seeking others
opionions about the product and experiences with the company.

Please respond directly to Raleigh Muns at SRCMUNS@UMSLVMA.BITNET

Raleigh Muns / Reference Librarian / Univ. of MO, St. Louis
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:58:20 EDT
From:         G_BRUCE@TWU.BITNET
Subject:      your favorite for core list, please

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I am assembling a core list of multicultural readings for curriculum
development purposes.  I would appreciate your input.  This list is not
limited; that is, I am including writings representative of all ethnic
groups, not just the "major" ones. At the moment, I am in need of
Scottish, Irish, Welsh examples.

The restriction is that the writers must reside in the U.S.; that is,
a book of Australian stories written by Australian writers living in
Australia will not be included.

If, for example, the writer is ,say, Armenian and writes of the
Armenian experience in and of the U.S.----perfect!

Greatly appreciate your help!        --------->-------@

Mary Jo

Mary Jo Bruce, m.s.
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From:         VKENAUSIS@FAIR1.BITNET
Subject:      Old Microfilm readers

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----------------- Message requiring your approval (34 lines) ------------------

I am posting this message for a colleague.  Please respond to him directly,
not to the list.  Thanks!

Here's a problem I'm hoping someone out there can give me som help with.
Here at Fairfield, we still rely on a number of Kodak MPE-1 Recordak
microfilm readers, which we purchased in the late 60s.  We've done alot of
searching, but have been unable to find anyone who still makes parts for
these machines.  Our questions are:

        1. Does anyone on the list know of a source for parts for these
        readers?

And, since I'm assuming no-one does,

        2. Does anyone have any old Recordaks in a closet from which they
        might be willing to sell/trade/give some parts?

Any positive responses can be directed to Jay Rozgonyi,
by mail at

        Nyselius Library
        Fairfield University
        Fairfield, CT  06430

by phone at

        203/254-4044

by e-mail at
        jrozgonyi@fair1.bitnet

Thanks in advance for your help!
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:35:28 EDT
From:         HH9503@ALBNYVMS.BITNET
Subject:      MANDARIN: Opinions please

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I have the honor of working for a small, foundation funded library attached
to Rockefeller College of SUNY at Albany. It's a very small special library
(and, sadly, a very temporary job). T
They have just signed a purchase order for
a LAN license to MANDARIN, the library d
database management program (circulation to nuts)
uts) of a Canadian company (which goes by a fist-full of names, including Melchi
   or
Management Systems Inc).

I'd like to hear from anyone who has had any experience with this package. Do
you like it? Can you compare it to another program intended for small libraries?
Is it too much for a library that is so small it does not use MARC format? All
input graciously accepted
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 09:41:39 EDT
From:         Diana Boardman Houston <dhouston@tenet.edu>
Subject:      Newspapers on CD vs. Newspapers on Microfilm

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Last month I asked for comment on the film vs. CD format for newspapers.
Thanks to all who responded!  This message is intended to serve as a summary
of comments received.

The overwhelming opinion was to purchase both formats when possible.  And
if it's not, go with the film.

Concerns expressed about maintaining CD ONLY included the unproven
archival quality of the CD and the exclusion of wire service stories,
graphics, illustrations, obituaries and even crossword puzzles.
Exclusion of these types of information make it impossible for the reader
to obtain a sense or feel for the time period.  The idea relative importance
is lost with the usage of uniform type.  The reader cannot visualize the
actual layout of the paper itself.  As one person wrote, "It is not the
same product."  Full coverage is simply not provided.

The advantage of keeping the newspaper on CD ONLY was that of space.

Although no one suggested tossing the film in favor of CD almost
EVERYONE suggested tossing the printed index in favor of CD.  The ease
of use and ability to search free text were the most frequently cited
advantages.

The CD certainly has a place in the newspaper section--right next to the
film!

Diana Houston
Texas State Library
INTERNET:  dhouston@tenet.edu
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