From: el27166@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (This Space for Rent)
Subject: Re: Magic throw help please.(I know the de-cuffs)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 10:47:20 GMT

robs@hardy.u.washington.edu (Robert Suh) writes:

>I personally don't find much difference in the two.(Throwing out of 'cuffs,
>and doing the Magic Throw.)  Though, I believe the slight difference is 
>that when doing the Magic Throw, you have to take that extra 'step',
>before pushing roundhouse-Fierce.  Throwing 'em out of the 'cuffs, I believe
>that the extra 'step' forward doesn't have to be as long.

>Case in point, I was trying to teach a newbie Guile player the Magic Throw.
>I was giving him rounds against the computer, and he couldn't do a Magic
>Throw if his life depended on it.(Even after ump-teeth times explaining, 
>and ump-teenth times playing the computer.) Anyways, so I get the computer
>opponent dizzy, and then into the 'cuffs.  I hand it over to the guy, and
>he Magic Throws the computer out.  hmm.. So I put the computer back into
>the 'cuffs, and hand it over again, and he still magic threw the computer out.
>I think the timing for magic throwing out of cuffs, is just a tad shorter,
>thus sometimes, it screws me up.  (Sometimes I'll magic throw out of cuffs on
>the first try, and other times I just get freeze and freeze.)

Getting out of handcuffs is easier than doing a magic throw.

>P.S. How does that 'Magic Throw, after Magic Throw' go like. (Is
>there such thing as Magic Throw Infintum??

After Guile's strong throw, you are charged!  If you don't believe me
then keep tapping jab after your strong throw or magic throw.  you'll
throw a sonic boom (if you kept the joystick forward).  Hence, you can
repeated magic throw someone in the corner if you can time it right.

>P.P.S. Another point, I've heard people stating that you can Magic Throw
>Blanka out of the ball, or Honda out of the torp', is it true?  I personally
>think it's B.S., my theory is that you can Magic Throw a Blanka when they
>are standing on the ground, and thus move into the 'magic throw sequence'
>while Blanka is 'balling' your _"throwing" body_. I've done that before, but
>haven't seen a Guile Magic throw someone already in the projectile position

If you can do the magic throw as quickly and consistently as the razor
kick, then you should be able to do this.  I haven't tried it yet, but
it sounds like fun, so I'll try it the next time.  What I _HAVE_ done
is magic throw Vega as he's coming from the wall at the very last possible
moment.  I mean, Guile starts the magic throw motion as Vega is right above
him.  What happens is that Vega just lands on the ground and starts doing
a few attacks on the invulnerable Guile until he gets thrown out of it.

It looks better when you do it slightly earlier so that Vega gets thrown
away JUST before he's about to hit you.  It's funny how he does a 90 degree
turn from going straight down to being whipped horizontally, and then 
falls down.

Also, I've found that I don't have to take that extra step to do the
magic throw.  Maybe it's the version I'm playing on, but I can do a
magic throw as a tick.  If you block, you're magic thrown immediately.
When I first learned the magic throw, I couldn't do this tick because
Guile had to walk forward a little bit and risked getting footswept.  No
longer!  I think I compensated the walk forward delay in between hitting
roundhouse and fierce.
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Eu-Ming Lee (aka CyberGeek)                      el27166@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
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