From: li@sicvax.enet.dec.com (Tong-Kang Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Question about TI
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:52:50 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Sep4.133004.9857@linus.mitre.org>, 129.83.161.10 (H. Chao) writes...
>In article <3SEP199218385488@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu>, laiichung@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu
>(L. D. ROPER) writes:
>> 
>> In article <22146@galaxy.ucr.edu>, lulu@ucrengr.ucr.edu (david lu) writes...
>> >In article <1992Sep2.012328.7757@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pchang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Pei-Yuan Chang) writes:
>> >>
>> >> Hi, I am not asking for arguments
>> >> OK, let me get this straight: I wrote a long paper this qaurter about TW
>> >>arousing discussions on TI in the class.  I'm just curious about the following
>> >>statement in the whole TI idea: why "mainlanders" should be kicked out of the
>> >>island after TI?
>> 
>>  = Well , I am a TI supportor and I know quite a lot people support TI , but
>>    based on what I know : none of them claimed that TI will kick out of 
>>    mainlanders . If you really heard of such kind of saying , please tell me 
>>    where did you hear that . I keep hearing people talking about that TI will
>>    get rid of mainlanders but none of my TI friends said that and I don't see
>>    any TI organization announced that . But I just keep receiving those message
>>    from KMT's publications , especially during election days .
>>    TI won't kick out mainlanders because they thought they are also Taiwanese .
>>    People in Taiwan are in the same boat , share the same fate . TI is the way
>>    for the better future of Taiwan . That's what I know why those people ( me
>>    also ) support TI .
>> 
>Well, I WAS a TI supportor.  Maybe I was too young.  I used to support
>Dang3(party)Wai4(outer) and donate my money to them back to the 70's.  When
>I came to U.S. I still jointed TI meetings. Ironically , I found a rule
>"CCP= KMT= TI".  
>It is strange they fight each other, but they are so similar.  They are so
>narrow minded, they are so power hunger, and they are so blood thirsty. 
>Somebody tell me it is Chinese nature, and they are Chinese so they share
>the same character.  Somebody say it is human nature.  People got to "eat"
>people that is the way to eliminate the "weaker" and keep the society
>stronger.  Somebody say it is animal nature.  See even monkeys in the zoo
>will fight for power.
> 
>To those minorities (mainders, Hakkas, and Native Taiwanese) in Taiwan, my
>suggestion is that vote for your own independence from TIers and build your
>own country/countries.  Do NOT expect TIers will treat you fair.  That is
>my experence, a costly experence.  Good Luck.

I had the same experience and would like to share:

I had voted for many Dang3Wai4 during the 70's although I was a KMT "member" 
(I joined KMT at my second year of college, one of reasons KMT was chasing 
after me during my course registration each semester, so finally I gave up 
and joined...) but I always see myself politically independent. At the time, 
I thought (and still think) those Dang3Wai4 are much better than most KMT 
candidates. Those Dang3Wai4 are truly main contributors to political reform 
in Taiwan (History will remember these people, I think).

But recently I found that some of TIers often label people who have different
opinion as "Taiwanese Traitor" (Tai2Chien1), etc nasty words. Chiu Chuang-Hwan 
(former governor of Taiwan) is an example because of his support of indirect 
Presidental election. These make me wondering what difference between KMT 
character and TI character and whether after KMT is gone, other KMT-like 
will come.

But I also feel confident about majority people on Taiwan. People these
days are much better educated and more politically independent than before. 
They will make a right choice. 

Tom