From: andy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Andrew Hackard)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: twisting (Thans for life)Read!
Date: 24 Nov 92 03:14:21 GMT
     <1992Nov18.012733.8794@iscsvax.uni.edu>
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

I tried, I really did, but it just slipped out...

"KEN[T].  THIS IS GOD."

clifton9220@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>decay@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dean.kaflowitz) writes:
>>clifton9220@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

>Also, those raped can still go and remove the sperms before they form with the
>egg or shortly thereafter.

Actually, Ken, in most cases authorities tell women who have been raped
NOT to do that; semen is useful evidence in a rape trial. (If I'm
offbase, please gently correct me -- I'm going by what I've previously
read.)
 
>> Why do so many good Christians initiate wars?  Just wondering.
>> It's a question that's come up before.

>Because we are the only ones to stand up for right.

Ken, I completely resent that statement.  THAT is the sort of attitude
which fosters bigotry, hatred, and genocide.  "We're right and they
aren't, so let's kill them."

Ken, I don't believe in your God.  Any God whom I could believe in would
list tolerance among His virtues.  Your God simply kills those who
disagree.
 
>> How do you know what your god wants?  How do you know it is any
>> more correct than those who are equally sincere and equally
>> certain about what their god wants and their god wants something
>> different from your own?
>
>As the bible says, there is one God,  the others are deamons.

(Daemons?  Deacons?  Huh?)

"There is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is his prophet."  Why is that
wrong and your interpretation right?  Or is Allah the same as your God,
and if so, why does He need two names?
 
>Oh?  If it is human to love, why do we kill?

You're the one initiating the jihads here -- you tell us.

No, that's a copout.  We kill because people sometimes threaten the
things we love, whether it is justifiable or not.  And not *everyone*
kills, Ken -- I seriously doubt whether I could or not.
  
>> Are you saying divorce is immoral?  Please elaborate on that notion.

>I am saying that exactly what psych. says.  We often lead ourselves into
>problem relationships.  If we would only slow down and think, this wouldn't be
>true.

Says the relationship counselor.  I disagree.  Even people who have
thought about themselves and their loved ones can be deceived or can
deceive themselves.  Sometimes love simply isn't enough, and sometimes
love isn't there anymore.  Not all divorces come from hasty decisions.
  
>> I disagree entirely with this.  Do you think there should be
>> legislation against my differing viewpoint?

>Don't you get it.  I don't care about laws.  God wants you not your agreement.

Well, now, *that's* certainly a nice attitude.  Does God want his people
to be brainwashed if they won't come willingly?  (I know -- "God wants
crusade, God wants jihad, God wants good, God wants bad."  Thanks, Rog.)
 
>> And I say your god clouds your mind and keeps you from learning.
>> Okay, so we have disparate views.  Now, can you defend your original
>> assertion, or are you going to play "True because I say so"
>> forever?

>Believe what you will.  I don't care.  I am only obligated to tell you the
>truth.  The rest is up to you and God.

The truth as YOU perceive it.  I don't think God (if He exists) is nearly
as narrow-minded as some of his faithful.

"OH, AND KEN[T] -- STOP PLAYING WITH YOURSELF."
"It *is* God!"

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--Andrew Hackard                                 If I spoke for UT, this post
  andy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu                        would make even less sense.
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