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From: wies@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Rene Felix Wies)
Subject: **!** Critics/Comments and a Request for Help **!**
Keywords: SLS linux ghostview ghostscript printer hp transfig
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:55:27 GMT
Summary: **!** Critics/Comments and a Request for Help **!**


Hi all,

I managed to install linux (SLS 0.98) with X11, TeX and xfig. 
Its ok to read dvi-files with xdvi, but I realy would like
to get my postscript files out on my printer:

     Printer: HP DJ500C

So I'm looking for someone who has been able to compile
 
     ghostview
     ghostscript
     transfig

PLEASE mail me your makefile or any other information on how
to set up my printer.

THANKS IN ADVANCE,
		    Rene'


BTW: I posted a similar article a few weeks ago and 
received a number of replies from people telling me 
that they had NO problems compiling ghostscript and 
ghostview. 
-- Great, BUT I AM having problems and need HELP.

BTW2: Posting my first article and mentioning that 
I had the SLS release running resulted in a vast 
number of mails, asking me how I got X11, SLS and 
the rest running. I replied to all these mails - 
most of the problems are explained in the FAQ or 
were already answered in some other postings. So 
please read the news before asking questions. "I 
know its somewhere in the FAQ, but...." is no longer 
an excuse - READ the FAQ and the news - that's what 
they're there for. Scanning approx.14000 articles 
is a lot, but its not getting less if people keep 
on posting old questions - AND many of the linuxers 
will stop reading all articles if only old stuff 
crops up. Splitting the group (into beginners and 
advanced users) makes little sense, but a little 
more patience and discipline would help. (Maybe 
we could have comp.os.linux.X11 ..TeX ..Emacs 
..Ghost ..Printing ..GCC. and keep the installation 
news in comp.os.linux.)

Despite the above discussion, I need HELP with 
ghost* and my HP DJ500C printer.
--Rene'

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: hpa@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin N9ITP)
Subject: Re: Does Linux use segmentation?
Reply-To: hpa@nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
Organization: You must be kidding!
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:12:46 GMT

In article <1dpov0INNqcu@agate.berkeley.edu> of comp.os.linux,
  curtis@cs.berkeley.edu (Curtis Yarvin) writes:
> In article <1992Nov11.011359.27473@cbnewse.cb.att.com> sph1@cbnewse.cb.att.com (stephen.p.hill) writes:
> >
> >I get the impression that Linux uses combined paging and 
> >segmentation, in fact that nearly all modern OSs use 
> >the combination.  Is this true?(the part about Linux)
> 
> Like most modern OSs, Linux uses paging and avoids segmentation
> (for the most part) like the plague.  This is because modern
> processors do not have segmentation, and it does not fit well
> with modern operating systems design.
>

However, the 386/486 DOES support segmentation.  REAL segmentation, not the
crock used by the 8086/80286 to get around the 64K limitation, but
segmentation used for object isolation.  It would be feasible, for example,
to have open() assign a segment descriptor and map a whole file into a
segment (using paging).  Regular pointer constructs would then be used to
access the file (on disk) and close() would unmap the file.  This idea was
incorporated in MULTICS, for example.

Under no circumstances would you need to use different segment descriptors
to access different part of the same data element or structure.  That
defeats the purpose of segmentation, and all you have left is a hideously
complex memory model.  That is, array1[] and array2[] can be in different
segments (a pointer would include the descriptor and an offset), but
array1[0] and array1[1000000] should differ only by their offsets.  No
pointer arithmetric should ever involve the segment descriptors, except
comparison.  (array1 != array2 is TRUE, array2 - array1 = ERROR)

On the other hand, this technique is not the way UNIX and C likes to do it.
They prefer a flat virtual memory space, and use system calls for file
access.  This is also the way Linux does it... almost.  The Linux memory
model uses one set of segment descriptors for user mode and another for
kernel mode.  When running in user mode, all segment registers contain the
user mode descriptors.  In kernel mode, CS, DS, ES and SS contain kernel
mode descriptors, while FS contains the user mode data descriptor, so the
kernel easily can access user space data.

> You will hear the word "segment" kicked around in a lot of
> places and a lot of different ways; be careful.  Just because
> you have, say, a "text segment" doesn't mean you use
> segmentation.

Agreed.  "Text portion" would be more accurate, but I assume this term came
to UNIX from Multics, which *did* support segmentation.  By the way, does
anyone know what BSS stands for?  I have only seen "for historical
reasons"...

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From: johnsond@columbia.dsu.edu (Dan G. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Wow...  This is GREAT!
Organization: Dakota State University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:38:19 GMT

In article <1992Oct29.205103.13292@sun1x.actc.res.utc.com> scottb@sun1x.actc.res.utc.com (Scott Brewster) writes:
>From: scottb@sun1x.actc.res.utc.com (Scott Brewster)
>Subject: Re: Wow...  This is GREAT!
>Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1992 20:51:03 GMT

>shanks@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com (Mark Shanks) writes:
>: In article <1c6ngnINNbke@uwm.edu> rick@ee.uwm.edu (Rick Miller) writes:
>: >Oh, the *THRILL* !!
>: >
>: >This may not seem like a big deal to most UN*X-users out there, but right
>: >now I'm running Linux (ver 0.98.1, a free UN*X-clone) on my IBM-PC clone.
>: >Even as I type this article (using kermit5A to connect to UWM.EDU), my
>: >feeble little i386/16 with only 2 Mb of RAM is re-compiling its own kernel
>: >on another virtual console!  My poor 40 Mb hard-drive is swapping like mad,
>: >but you should see the grin on my face!!!
>: >
>: >Once all the 'extras' (SCSI drivers, extended file-system, kernel TCP/IP)
>: >are compiled-out, I'll have a smaller kernel and more RAM... less swapping.
>: >
>: >I was just a 'user' until about six months ago, and knew *nothing* about
>: >getting a UN*X-style system up and running.  I *still* don't know much,
>: >but by gosh...  It's running anyway!  What more could anyone ask?
>: >
>: >It's a POSIX-compliant, multi-user, multi-tasking, networkable OS for FREE!
>: 
>:       OH HAPPY! HAPPY! HAPPY!
>: 
>:       **JOY! JOY! JOY!**
>: 
>: Don't take much to make some folks giggly.
>: 
>: Mark Shanks

>Mark, wanna buy some rubber nipples?

>another R&S fan
>Scott Brewster
>scottb%nw8550@utrcgw.utc.com
From: ee89jje%ee.surrey.ac.uk (Ed)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: SIMM Prices
Date: 6 Nov 92 12:03:24 GMT
Organization: University of Surrey, Guildford, England
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Just out of interest - can anyone in the States tell me how much SIMMs
cost over there?

Cheers,
Ed
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: alsaggaf@athena.mit.edu (M. Saggaf)
Subject: Re: XView3 Source
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 15:34:35 GMT

>>>>> On 6 Nov 92 10:46:18 GMT, simonich@uservx.plk.af.mil said:
s> Article-I.D.: uservx.1992Nov6.104618.36403

s> I am looking for the source for XView3.  I know that it exists in
s> contrib-3 on export.lcs.mit.edu but I'm not quite desperate
s> enough to down load 15M+ just to get it.

s> A previous post announced that it also existed at XView3.ucdavis.edu
s> but the NIC doesn't recognize that host.

s> Does anyone know the numeric host name where XView3 exists as
s> a separate file?

s> Thanks

It's in /contrib/xview3 on export.lcs.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: bhenning@wimsey.bc.ca (Bill Henning)
Subject: badblocks
Organization: BC News and Mail
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 06:55:10 GMT

I need to find and map out bad blocks - I am trying to set up my 386/40
as a Linux-only computer but the RLL drives have some bad sectors... I
seem to remember 'badscan' or something...
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jem@calypso.uucp (Jonathan Magid)
Subject: Re: Some interesting Novice Questions (not found in FAQ)
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:58:08 GMT

In article <dingelde.720952611@jocki> dingelde@igd.fhg.de (Dennis Dingeldein) writes:
>1) Would you state that Linux is good enough to buy a PC just to run
>   Linux/X11 on it ?

It was the only reason I bought a PC.  Until Linux, I had no plans to buy
a micro-computer (until I could afford a Next that is.)

>
>2) Is a 15'' Monitor (1024x768ni, >80Hz) "good" enough to read the X11
>   default fonts of X11 ? Or is 15'' a pain ?

Depends your VAR rating (Video Anal Retension). I make do with a good
CTX 14'' monitor, and i am quite pleased with the picture I get... a 17''
would be better though, and I would make the jump to 17'' and forget 15''.
IMHO the difference betwen 14 and 15 is not terribly significant.
>
>3) Does Linux support Local Bus Architectures ?

The answer to this for both IDE and video seems to be an overwhelming yes.
I have yet to see any reports of troubles, and have seen many reports of
success, including my own system which has a local bus ET4000 card.
>
>4) There is a S3 X Server 0.0. Is it a good idea to buy a S3 card 
>   or will this server work only with some (a few) S3 cards, but not with
>   the most/all cards ? (the low speed of 0.0 would be no problem, I believe
>   that will change in the next months)

As you say the S3 server is still in progress and seems to be in the
process of many speedups (when putting it on sunsite, I looked at it briefly
to see that much of the 8514 code can be improved to take advantage of the S3.
But as the authors say, it will never support Diamond cards under their
tutoring...
>
>5) Is it a good idea to use one singe efs-partition of lets say 200 MB
>   for all the Linux stuff ? Are there disadvantages for this efs solution
>   (efs=extended file system) compared to a set of "usual fs" partitions ?

Hmmm. This may be a religious question.  I use two partitions.  One for system
level utilities (/bin, /usr/bin, /etc). This is for purposes of speed and
reliability.  My user partition (/u) where my own directory is is extended,
for reasons of having a big partition and to have long file name support.


jem.

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From: bhenning@wimsey.bc.ca (Bill Henning)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: (*) ##Graphic Cards supported by Linux##
Date: 10 Nov 92 06:24:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: wimsey.BxHLsv.C3p
Organization: BC News and Mail

In article <1992Nov04.202003.8345@rz.uni-jena.de> pfk@rz.uni-jena.de (Frank Klemm) writes:
>
>Which graphic card are currently supported by Linux. Which information
>is neccesary to support a special graphic mode. First a function initializing
>the selected mode... and then???
>
>Is there an driver for the SS24???
>
>Frank
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>

I use both 'Tricom Mega 1024' TSENG 4000 (with a bunch of crystals on it)
and the new Genoa 7900 'Multimedia' SVGA (also TSENG 4000) based with
great success... now if only I can talk some tech documentation out of
Genoa (it has 800x600x64k color, and 640x480x16M color modes as well)
The genoa uses a programmable clock, but shows 16 clocks to Xfree, up
to 92Mhz - the 1152x910 non-interlaced (80Mhz clock) mode from the 
vga database works!
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: drew@ladymacb.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: Shoelace...
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 07:35:37 GMT

In article <yiVsTB1w165w@wefunk.rent.com> ludwig@wefunk.rent.com (Mitchel F. Ludwig) writes:
>OK...  I'm getting crazy here...
>
>Finally got .98p1 up and running.  It's way keen...  I'm trying to
>set the bad boy up to boot from my hard drive.  I'm using shoelace.
>What I do is.....
>
>My config file looks like :
>
>   boot		/vmlinux
>
>it's in /etc/config
>
>I run
>   laceup /dev/hda1 wini
>
>and then
>   laceup -w 1 /dev/hda
>
>Then I sync and reboot.  The WINIboot menu comes up, I press 1 to
>boot partition 1, and the machine hangs.  My /vmlinux is the same
>bootimage.98 that I use to boot from floppy, and I've changed 508/509
>to reflect the hard drive being the place to look for root.
>
>What's going wrong?

Sparse files.  Linux, like other unices, allows you to create "holes" 
in files by lseek()'ing beyond the end of them.  To save disk space,
the GNU cp takes advantage of this, and will lseek() when it sees 
a block sized set of 0's.  Under Linux, this is fine.  However, Shoelace
pukes on this.

Don't use cp to write /vmlinux.  Instead, use dd or cat Image > /vmlinux.

Also, / must be a MINIX file system.  

>If no-one has any clue, what are you all using?

Shoelace.  

You could also use LILO - it will work with any filesystem, handles 
holes, but can be difficult to use on SCSI systems, and you have 
to create maps for each kernel you wish to be able to boot.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Thomas.Peikenkamp@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Thomas Peikenkamp)
Subject: Re: Linux version 0.98-pl4
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 12:07:52 GMT

Hi,

After reading its init file, emacs is stopped by signal SIGIOT.
0.98-4 is the first Linux version showing this behaviour. Any clues?

Thomas

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: browland@nyx.cs.du.edu (Brent Rowland)
Subject: umount fd01200: device busy or something like that
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 05:35:38 GMT


I just got the 0.98.1 SLS package, and tried to install it on
a friend's machine.  I keep getting this error message when 
it goes to umount the floppy drive saying that it's busy or
something.  This happens after it installs the contents of a2.
It then tells me to insert a3, but it won't recognize it.
Setup:
  386-33, 5 Meg RAM, AMI BIOS, 120 Meg hard drive (60 Meg Linux)
I've tried installing with and without the extended file system,
with and without a swap partition, and even with and without
the swap partion turned on.
Once, with a 5 meg swap NOT turned on, it got clear through 
the entire installation without error, but when I tried to boot
with the new boot disk, I got an "out of memory" error.
So, I tried it with the swap partition turned on.  No luck.
I tried several different combinations.  Then when I tried the 
same setup again it didn't work.

Earlier this evening I successfully installed the base system 
on a 386sx with only 2 megs of memory.  The only difference
I think was that then I was using a .96 version of the a2 disk.
When I realized that, I made a .98 version, but I no longer have
the .96 version to go back to.

Anybody have any ideas?

Brent Rowland           browland@nyx.cs.du.edu
Q
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: drew@ladymacb.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: linux and > 64meg partitions?
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 06:57:36 GMT

In article <3uJyTB6w165w@student.business.uwo.ca> mark@student.business.uwo.ca (Mark Bramwell CS STAFF) writes:
>I have been using 386bsd at work (very stable) and want to install something
>at home.  I have a 200meg scsi drive at home.  I would like to setup
>a 160meg partition.  Can linux handle large partitions yet?

No problem.  

>I know there is/was an EFS, but 2 months ago, people were complaining it
>was unstable.

Linux evolves very rapidly.  Bugs are fixed as soon as they're discovered,
often with new kernel releases following within days.

>Also,  I have TCPIP running at home with a few other machines, so I would
>want ftp/telnet and nfs.

Test versions of Linux TCPIP code, and NFS are available.  Personal
experience with TCP/IP shows that it's fairly stable if you've 
compiled the clients with a "recent" GCC/libs, NFS is allegedly 
stable.


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IBM for AIX (appropriately called Aches by those having to administer it), but 
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Boycott AT&T for their absurd anti-BSDI lawsuit.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: cheng@iesd.auc.dk (Ivan Cheng)
Subject: Re: X with ATI Graphics Vantage
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University
Date: 13 Nov 92 14:22:35


Try compressing the fonts in /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc
From: sdh@po.CWRU.Edu (Scott D. Heavner)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Why can't I compile anything? (GCC v2.2.2d JT4.1 -- xv and sc)
Date: 11 Nov 1992 23:37:50 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: sdh@po.CWRU.Edu (Scott D. Heavner)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


	I have been having trouble compiling things with GCC 
lately.

For example: when I try to compile xv-2.20, I get the following:

gcc -m486 -traditional -O6          -DHAVE_JPEG -Ijpeg     -DHAVE_TIFF
-Itiff -DHAVE_PDS -o ansi2knr ansi2knr.c
In file included from ansi2knr.c:190:
/usr/include/string.h:21: warning: conflicting types for built-in
function `memcpy'
/usr/include/string.h:35: warning: conflicting types for built-in
function `strlen'

If I get rid of the -traditional it doesn't report these errors but it
gets stuck later.  When I am done, it produces a binary which will
run, but won't work to view graphics, it shifts columns around.

	A E I M			B H J M
	B F J N		==>	C E K N
	C G K O			D F L O
	D H L P			A G I P

The same think happens when I use the binaries for xv-2.21 from sunsite.


	Also,wWhen I try to link sc (from sunsite),
I get the following message:

        sc.a: undefined symbol _setjmp referenced from text segment

I am using gcc 2.2.2d with jumptable 4.1 which I obtained from tsx-11
in early September.  I did a quick grep of the files in my /usr/lib and
found that it (_setjmp) is referenced in libc.a, so why doesn't this
work?


					Scott
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ayre@fraser.sfu.ca (David Ayre)
Subject: HELP ME PLEASE! :)
Keywords: mouse logitech mouse busmouse
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 09:14:46 GMT

Hi, I am still having troubles getting my Logitech Busman working with X11.

I have the SLS 0.98 dist. of linux.

Going on what I have read, everything is in order.  My mouse is on IRQ 5,
/dev/mouse has been "mknode 10 0", but X11 keeps either freezing up or
panicking on me! 

Has anyone been able to get there Logitech Busmouse to work under X?


In dire need of assistance,


Storm D. J. Petersen
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: a590700@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk (USS Account Creation account)
Subject: S3 VGA on linux
Organization: The Chinese University of Hong Kong
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 01:24:29 GMT

I'm using a S3 based VGA card on a 486 machine, and I would like to use
X together with linux.  Is there any implementation of X for linux supporting
S3?  Where can I find it (any ftp site)?

Regards,
Stephen Wong.
From: hnht@stein.u.washington.edu (H.N.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: WYSE termcap emulation?
Date: 13 Nov 92 07:08:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov13.070832.11070
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


Hi Netters!

I want to hook up a WYSE-50 terminal through my serial port
but I don't have the emulation in my termcap.
Would some kind souls give me some pointers?
And how fast can I set the terminal, 19200?
If this is a FAQ, I am sorry.

Thanks.
From: makisara@vtinsx.ins.vtt.fi (Kai Makisara)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: ups (the X-based debugger)
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:56:19
Organization: Technical Research Centre, Instrument Lab., Espoo, Finland
NNTP-Posting-Host: vtinsx.ins.vtt.fi
In-reply-to: davem@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU's message of Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:40:21 GMT

I like ups very much, too. So much that I tried to compile it in Linux.
It won't compile "out of the box" and I ran into problems in the code
which is extracting information from the running program and dealing
with signals. I won't say that it can't be ported but that it requires
more effort than I was prepared for. xxgdb is not so bad after all.

	Kai
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Bash help
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 07:04:31 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)

In article <chengb.721589790@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> chengb@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Bruce) writes:
>Hi, I need to know how to get a type of alias to work in bash:
>
>like in csh, you can do: alias dir 'ls -laF \!* |more'
>	to pass the parameter
>in bash, I tried: alias dir='ls -laF $* |more'
>and it wouldn't take the parameter correctly.


You can do:

function dir
{
	ls -laF $* |more
}

Put this in the same file with your aliases.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tfoley@r-node.gts.org (Tim Foley)
Subject: Installing a New kernel
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX Information System (416-249-5366)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:16:28 GMT

  I need some help on installing a new kernel.  It turns out the mods
that were recommended to remove the SCSI drivers messed up my cc job,
but by restoring everthing to the Makefiles, it compiled cleanly after
that.
  Now that I have a Image file and I did the Make Disk and have a boot disk...
Whats the next steps?
 
  Do I copy the Image to the root dir and then reboot with the new boot disk?
  Does the new boot disk have to be modified to tell it what boot device 
  (Partition) to use?  I did specify this in the Make file though.
 
Thanks Guys
 
							Tim

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