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From: wmartin@STL-06SIMA.ARMY.MIL (Will Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
Subject: Call Letter Meanings
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:03:09 GMT
Organization: US Army
Originator: wdp@gagme

Every now and then people mention this or that station's call letters and
how they were derived, such as from the owner's initials or a company or
location name.  I heard a nice one mentioned in passing during last night's
Radio Nederland's Media Network program, which was a retrospective on the
private SW broadcaster WRUL/WNYW over the decades of its operation:

WATD, an FM in Marshfield, Mass. -- the "ATD" stands for "At The Dump",
since the station is located at the Marshfield town dump...

(I assume they meant the transmitter site... :-)

Regards, Will

[Moderator's Note:  In Chicago, there are some notable call letter meanings.
WGN - World's Greatest Newspaper (Tribune)
WLS - World's Larghest Store (Once owned by Sears)
WIND  Indiana (once licenced to Gary Indiana, transmitter still there.
WCFL  Chicago Federation (of) Labor
WJPC  Johnson Publishing Company
WBBM  We Broadcast Beautiful Music (previously We Bcast (frm the) BroadMoore)
WMBI  Moody Bible Institute
WOPA  Oak Park Arms
WVON  Voice Of (the) Negro  (A very old acronym :-) )
In Milwaukee, there is WTMJ - The Milwaukee Journal.  How about some others?]
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From: steveh@grafex.cupertino.ca.us (Steve Harding KA6ETB) 
Subject: Re: *** WHAT WOULD __YOU__ DO? ***
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: The GRAFex Company
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 06:11:10 GMT

tom@spud.Kludge.COM (Tom Lemos) writes:

]...[
 
> well...that's what KSJX in San Jose < same town as KEEN > is kinda/sorta 
> doing... they are going Asian languages.. rather eclectic if you ask me, 
> but as the sunday SF Examiner pointed out, there are 6 Spanish language 
> stations in the Bay Area, yet, the Asian population is larger and they 
> don't have quite the radio coverage.. this is an interesting idea.
>  
> < KSJX is at 1500 am, by the way...  >

Used to be KXRX.  If you are a HUNTER fan, these call letters showed up
quite regularly.

steve

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From: sjsobol@wariat.org (Steven J. Sobol)
Subject: Re: AM DX
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: The Tiny Software Co.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:46:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.023649.12899@gagme.chi.il.us> you write:
>
>This is a list of stations that I listen to
>more or less all year round. Reception here in
>Toronto varies somewhat for Chicago and NYC.
>I am posting this to receive updates and corrections.

>760     WJR     DETROIT

This station is pretty consistent in its signal, which is pretty strong. Of
course, Detroit is only a few hours from Cleveland...

>1120    KMOX    ST LOUIS  sometimes

Generally, it is not hard to get this from Cleveland (about six hours' 
distance) if you've got a good tuner, and you're not driving through a
thunderstorm.

>1100    WWWE    CLEVELAND
>1130    ?       CLEVELAND
>
>[Moderator's Note:  The 660 spot in NYC is WFAN, and what IS this 
>1130 in Cleveland?  I know there is a 1130 in Detroit, but Cleveland?
>Didn't think they could squeeze another station into that frequency.]

There is no 1130 in Cleveland.

I don't think so, anyhow.

I'll have to check on this.... I might be wrong, there have been
several changes lately...
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From: lagnaf@camelot.bradley.edu (Jeremy Styninger)
Subject: REQUEST:  Conversion chart for _Radio_Waves_ 
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Bradley University 
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:51:46 GMT

Could somebody please repost the list of real life names to go with
the characters in Jim Ladd's book?

Thanks.

Jeremy Styninger
lagnaf@camelot.bradley.edu
			
		Stand on your own head for a change.

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From: kovatch@compuserve.com  (Scott Kovatch)
Subject: Re: AM DX
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: CompuServe Incorporated
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:46:54 GMT

In a previous article wern\@zoo.toronto.edu (Wern Thiel) writes:
>
>1130    ?       CLEVELAND

Could you possible mean WRVA in Richmond, VA?  They're at 1140.
Have you tried 1 tried KYW 1060 in Philadelphia?  That comes in fairly
clear at night in Cleveland and Columbus, OH.

>1180    WHAM    ROCHESTER
>1190    WOWO    FT WAYNE  difficult
>1210    WCAU    PHILADELPHIA varies
>1520    WWBK    BUFFALO
>
>[Moderator's Note:  The 660 spot in NYC is WFAN, and what IS this 
>1130 in Cleveland?  I know there is a 1130 in Detroit, but Cleveland?
>Didn't think they could squeeze another station into that frequency.]

Since this is Toronto, 1130 is most likely WNEW New York.  I heard
Talknet (Bruce Williams?), and then a Larry King ad where Larry gave
the call letters as part of the ad.

To answer your question, WWWE is the closest station to 1130.  Cleveland
doesn't have any stations at 1130.

-- 
Scott Kovatch					s.kovatch@csi.compuserve.com
CompuServe, Inc.				sak@po.cwru.edu
If bread always lands butter side down, and cats always land on their feet, 
what happens if you tie a buttered piece of bread to the back of your cat?

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From: tom@spud.Kludge.COM (Tom Lemos)
Subject: Re: O-day!  Dung's back!
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Tater Tot Liberation Front, San Francisco CA
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:42:29 GMT

lgold@callahans.Cadence.COM (Lynn Gold) writes:
> The new morning team are a couple of guys who go by "Blake and B.J."
> >From what I've heard of them, they hadn't met before they started
> doing the show together,

 Gawd... I hope they're temporary... please! 

> M. Dung is the 10am-2pm DJ.  There are rumors that "Howard Stern is a
> possibility."  They have the same news guy as before, and I don't know
> who (if anyone) is doing traffic for them.
 
Dung would be a better morning man... I tuned into KFOG the other 
afternoon and was shocked to hear them doing something they called "Your 
Three Songs" which is a take-off on Dung's "My Three Songs" contest in 
the morning....

But, all i can say is, I wish they'd play more music. 
 
[Moderator's Note:  Just heard an aircheck from 98.9's morning team.  I
cannot see what the big deal is.  Sounds like a typical morning zoo to me.
Certainly not all that alternative, IMHO.]

Tom

Tom@spud.kludge.COM                 Tater Tot Liberation Front
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From: john@zygot.ati.com (John Higdon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
Subject: Re: infinity buys stations
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:03:59 GMT
Organization: Green Hills and Cows
Originator: wdp@gagme

scott@asd.com (Scott Barman) writes:

> I recently heard that Infinity Broadcasting, which owns Howard Stern's
> home base of WXRK in New York (among others), has bought several other
> radio stations.

And would anyone venture a guess as to when, if, and what station
Infinity will acquire in San Francisco? Currently, Infinity's Bay Area
presence is its first station ever acquired, KOME. Now that the duopoly
rules have dumped and the handle pulled, you can bet that the Double 99
will not be the only north/south bay game around.

BTW, Infinity has owned KOME nearly twenty years, taking control of the
station in May of 1973. How time flies.

-- 
        John Higdon         |   P. O. Box 7648   |   +1 408 264 4115
    john@zygot.ati.com      | San Jose, CA 95150 |       M o o !
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From: sdc.com!kenk@uunet.UU.NET (Ken Konecki)
Subject: Re: WLS changes formats... Again
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Systems Development Corporation
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:10:27 GMT

>Any comments?

Sure,  I'm glad to see WLS talk radio go for good.  Their issues
oriented talk radio was more emotion than intellect and as such served
only to elevate my blood pressure rather than provoke thought on any
given subject.  I think they completely missed the boat on what talk
radio should be.  I said it once before; it's damn hard to compete with
WGN in the format that WGN created.  WLUP AM is a strong competitor
against WGN, but their format is not talk radio.  It's listen and (for
those who share the same sophomoric sense of humor as Steve Dahl et al)
laugh.  The audience is not as vital to the programming as it is to WGN
and as it was to WLS.

I think what WLS may be doing (at least on the AM side) is to recapture
what WMAQ used to be before they went to an all news format.  WMAQ at
one time claimed to be the most listened to radio station in the
nation.  The overnight show was quite popular with truckers and when
WMAQ switched formats, quite a large void was left.  It seems to me
that WLS is trying to fill that void.  They even announced that the
overnight show would be geared toward truckers.

What saddened me about the format switch was the decision to go with a
satellite feed for the AM.  By doing so, the station is refusing to
adopt its own identity.  Without identity, the station can never hope
to achieve any kind of specialness and listener loyalty.

I think the memories of what WLS used to be are all that are left of
the once mighty big 89.  The current people running the operation seem
content to let WLS sink into the quagmire.  It kind of reminds me of
the WKRP in Cincinnati episode where Mrs.  Carlson wanted to switch to
an all talk format so that she could write the station off as a loss on
her taxes.

Cheers,
    -Ken K
-- 
Ken Konecki
e-mail:kenk@sdc.com    -or-    ...!uunet!tellab5!sdc!kenk
"I just found out that the brain is like a computer.  If that's true,
then there really aren't any stupid people.  Just people running DOS."

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From: price@nosc.mil (James N. Price)
Subject: Re: AM radio dying?
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego 
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 05:33:48 GMT

I want to add my $0.02 here.  I, too, am bummed by the overall
demise of AM radio, the satellite feeds, loss of local
personality, simulcasting with the FMs, etc.

BUT AM stations can still make money.  Here in little ol' San
Diego, KFMB on 760 is doing just fine, thanks.  They've been in
the Top 10 of the ratings for as many years as I can remember--
certainly more than 20.  They have a solid line up of
"personality" jocks (as opposed to "shock" jocks), some of whom
have been with the station for 20 years, mild-mannered music, a
fair amount of sports including the Chargers and/Padres depending
upon contracts, and some talk show stuff at night (Bill Balance--
it's awful but some folks love it!).  They have a good solid
signal, of course, but would still have good ratings if they were
elsewhere in the band.

Meanwhile we have KKLQ AM-FM whose AM is on 600.  This was KOGO
years ago, also one of the highest rated AMs.  Now it's completely
simulcast with the FM, and in fact is virtually never mentioned.
It's just a repeater for "Q-106" (cf. the recent comment from
someone about a Program Director not knowing the frequency of his
AM!  Might have been this station!).  Why do they even bother to
pay the electrical bills to keep the AM on the air?   Or better
yet, why doesn't someone make it a separate station and make some
money with it?

--Jim, K6ZH

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From: rcoryell@well.sf.ca.us (Roger Coryell)
Subject: Re: 98.9 FN San Francisco Followup
Originator: @gagme
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:04:52 GMT

re: discussion of "talk-rock " format on KDBK, 98.9 San Francisco.

Y'know, it *could* work, but it won't with
a) the management that they have in place
b) the staff that they have in place, which ain't bad but...
c) all the other factors.

I give it less than six months, to be replaced by country.
they just don't "get" the Bay area, despite hiring some local talent.
the morning show, co-hosted by my friend Blake Lawrence, is too
much chatter and not enough substance... and they just ain't funny.
If KFOG goes country first, KDBK will probably try some other variant
of AOR.


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From: lightw@cetra.trl.OZ.AU (Liron Lightwood)
Subject: Re: 98.9 FM San Francisco
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:13:00 GMT

bri@nic.cerf.net (Brian Rice)  writes:

>In article <1992Aug12.065856.1466@gagme.chi.il.us> ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed
>Suranyi) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug7.174930.316@gagme.chi.il.us>
>mark@attain.ICD.Teradyne.COM (Mark Guidotti) writes:

 >>>It's another hard rock station in a market with five others (KSJO, KOME,
 >>>KUFX, KRQR, KFOG). 

Just out of interest, how many Top 40 type hit muisc stations that play
pop and dance music are there in the bay area?  I would be interested in
the comparison.

Liron Lightwood                     Internet : r.lightwood@trl.oz.au
Telecom Research Laboratories       Phone : +61 3 253 6535
770 Blackburn Road                 Snail : P.O. Box 249 Clayton 3168 Australia
Clayton  Vic. 3168 Australia        Disclaimer : My views are not my company's

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From: yag@eng.umd.edu (Eric Funk)
Subject: "Part 15"
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:06:49 GMT

Does anyone know where the infamous "Part 15" of FCC rules and regs can be
found? 

Part 15 describes rules regarding unlicensed, low power emissions. It
allows operation of ``Mr. Microphone'' as well as wireless telephones etc.
I understand that FM broadcast band emissions were recently included. I also
believe the 100 mW power limit is on INPUT power to the final stage RF amp.
Can anyone verify this?
 I am specifically interested in starting a low power unlicensed station, and
am wondering if there are any rules governing program content or modulation
mode (ie  is music officially allowed, is SSB modulation allowed). I've
also heard that there is a longwave experimenter's band allowing up to 2 Watts
unlicensed emissions. I'm intent on keeping the operation legal. Hopefully
I can use a good high gain antenna and efficient modulation method such as SSB
to get a good range. Any help would be appreciated.


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From: VOYKHANS@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Subject: Info needed, eastern europe
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 06:07:29 GMT

If you have or know how to obtain information about permited
frequencies in the Countries of Eastern Europe and Russia.
PLEASE contct me at:
voykhans@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
fax: 913-832-2417
tel 913-749-5792/913-832-0600
ask for Grigory Voykhansky or Marc Joseph
Thank you 

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From: ampex!newsq@decwrl.dec.com (Stan Busby)
Subject: RF shock & interlocks
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Ampex Corporation, Redwood City CA
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 06:10:03 GMT

In a recent posting, someone described the result of 
high-voltage shock.  The results might have been very
different had the voltage been DC or 60 Hz.  RF tends
to flow on the surface of a conductor.  The higher the
frequency, the thinner the surface.  This is why many
waveguides are silver-plated inside.  Since the current
doesn't flow so much through your internal guts, especially
the heart, it is unlikely to kill you.
 
It happened to me when I was adjusting antenna phase at
WTAR (now WKTR), Norfolk, Va.  5KW into a four-wire open-
wire transmission line.  I think this figures out to be
5KV, more when modulating.  790 KHz.  I brushed something
with my thumb.  I didn't feel it so much as I heard it and
later smelled it.  A couple of years later, over a period
of only a week or so, I grew an inverted wart at the site
of contact.  It stayed there for over five years, then
as suddenly as it appeared, it went away.  Mysterious!
 
I have grabbed ahold of 450 volts DC and I can verify that
DC is harder to let go of than AC.
 
While on the subject, a current through the chest of less
than one milliampere usually does no harm and may not even
be felt.  Between 10 mils and one amp, electric shock can
cause fibrillation of the heart, from which you can die
quickly.  Somewhere between 1 amp and 5 amps, the heart
freezes up and stops, but generally starts up ok when the
shock is over.  Emergency rooms have at least one
"defibrillator".  If you go into fibrillation for natural
reasons, they put the paddles on your chest and discharge a
great whacking capacitor through you.  Think of it as
a kind of one-time sync pulse.
 
Another thing to remember about high-voltage RF.  The thick
rubber gloves often worn by power company linemen is no
good at all at 5KV of RF.  After a hurricane, we hired
a line crew to retighten our transmission lines.  Before
I had a chance to switch towers, one of the linemen put
up a ladder and tried to shake the line.  His glove, and
hand, looked like somebody took a Chinese meat cleaver to it.
 
The only time I ever shorted out the cabinet interlocks, 
(This at WTAR-TV), the FCC inspector showed up, caught me
and wrote me up. 
 

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From: joeisham@sdf.lonestar.org (Joe Isham)
Subject: Re: WLS changes formats... Again
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Lonestar
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:07:24 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.012926.19890@gagme.chi.il.us> William Pfeiffer  writes:
:I hope I am proved wrong, but if the President of Cap-Cities is so confident
:that his orginization 'knows how to do country', why is he plugging his
:50,000 watt clear-channel blowtorch into Satellite Music Network?  Doesn't
:smack of too much confidence to me.  Better that he leaves the talk format on
:AM and puts local origination country on the FM, but then again, HE is the
:big radio executive, and I am but the moderator of a broadcasting newsgroup,
:what do I know?
: 
:Any comments?

I don't know about the people who're running 'LS, but CapCities'
co-owned WBAP (AM)/KSCS (FM) here in Dallas is riding a high crest right
now.

KSCS hired morning man Terry Dorsey from competitor KPLX about four
years ago, and he's helped pull the station up from an also-ran to the
top station in the market for five or six consecutive books.

WBAP, the "traditional" country station, has a loyal audience, averaging
at least a 5.0 and consistently in the top five.  They also carry
Rangers baseball and Mavericks basketball, but this year, that hasn't
seemed to help. :(

They also spend quite a lot of money on promotions.

I agree with you that it's a STOOPID move to put WLS-AM on Satellite,
probably the blandest country format I've heard in years.  They'd do
much better to research their sister clear-channel station in Fort
Worth.

-- 
_ __/|  Joe Isham - joeisham@sdf.lonestar.org, joeisham@chinet.chi.il.us
\'o.O|  
=(___)= "As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!"
   U         -- Arthur Carlson, "WKRP in Cincinnati"

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From: wa2ise@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (robert.f.casey)
Subject: Re: *** WHAT WOULD __YOU__ DO? ***
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 06:59:39 GMT

If I had an AM radio station in New York City area, or Silicon Valley....

Go for a special market.  In the NYC area, there is no commercial station
serving the Chinese community.  Granted, there is not a huge lot of them,
but the ones that are here are mostly professional "white collar" level
and get good salaries.  Which (if true) is attractive to advertisers.

A complication is that there are, at minimum, two mostly incompatable
spoken Chinese languages (Cantonese in the Hong Kong and southern China
area, and Manderin in the northern China).  Assuming you only have one
station to use, you'd have to figure out when to use eighter language.
Alternate every hour? day?  

And you'd have to figure out what the listeners what to hear (music
(what type?), news, talk, etc).  There are some TV channels in the
New York City area with Chinese programming, but you can't watch
TV when driving your car!  Drive time is probably the main ethnic
radio market.  

But if your station is in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, this ain't gonna fly...

Suppose one could do a market survey on soc.culture.china, or elsewhere
to see how much interest would be generated...

Bob

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From: ckukkone@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (CK3)
Subject: All rap stations
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 06:59:07 GMT

Could someone give me the call letters and the address if possible
of any "all rap" format stations especially the new AM station
in Chicago.  Thanks

Carl

[Moderator's Note: The calls are WJPC (owned by Johnson Publishing), the 
frequency is 950-AM.  They have studios in Lansing (a south suburb) and have
a omni-directional daytime site in the middle of the city (1kw) and a 5 tower
night site near their studios, on the Indiana border with a straight north
pattern.  I heard their night power is 5kw but that is unconfirmed.  They
used to simulcast with their class-A FM (106.3) using a Urban/soft AC format.
The FM does not cover well in the north half of Chicago due to low power and
bleedover from class-B 105.9.  When 'JPC first went all rap (a couple of weeks
ago) the audio was _HORRIBLE_, sounded like a cheap boom box turned all the
way up.  Lately, the sound has improved. If they keep the audio clean, they
might do well with the format.  I still think they should dump the
soft-urban-ac from the FM and simulcast the rap.  The FM covers well in the
core markets of the south and west side neighborhoods.  Their brand of rap is
very hard-edged and very street. I have heard several explitive-deletive
words buried in the tracks, although the obvious ones are bleeped out. 
All-in-all, I think they have a good chance. The address is 2915 Bernice Road
Lansing Il 60438. General office phone number is (708) 895-1400]  
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