From: jerry@lds-az.loral.com (J Barbera)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Wins, Questions, and Comments
Date: 16 Nov 92 08:43:21 GMT
Organization: Loral Defense Systems Arizona

In article <1992Nov15.130302.4086@memstvx1.memst.edu> isds11990012@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov13.070934.2775@lds-az.loral.com>,
>   jerry@lds-az.loral.com (J Barbera) writes:
>>
>> Where will your mission be?
>
>   It will be here in Memphis Tennessee USA.  I just want to put the mission
>here so that Scientology will be available in the area.  I just want to
>work it long enough that it can become a Class V org.

A very good game indeed.  I was talking with a SMI staff member once (when
I was at Flag Bureaux) and we discussed the significance of the flows: how
the ideal scene ten missions flow their public up to the org, etc.  At the
time it kind of hit me: SMI and the missions are playing the *same* overall
game as Flag Bureaux and the service orgs.  Previous to that, I always
thought that orgs and missions sort of competed.  (Now I know better.)

>
>> {I wrote...}
>>>Have you ever noticed, that if you are exterior and you look at your
>>>body it feels... well (sickening?)  I seem to remember LRH writing
>>>somewhere that auditors should not make the PC put his attention on the
>>>body while exterior.  Anyone know the exact reference for this?  Also, any
>>>source data on why it occurs would be especially apprecited.
>>
>> I recall the reference.  I've been looking for it, but still haven't
>> found it.  I read it in Creation of Human Ability pertaining to what
>> to do when the pc does exteriorize.  The same data should also be in
>> Scientology 8-8008 and possibly Dianetics 55!
>>
>> [interesting experience omitted]
>>
>> How do you go exterior?  I have a friend who has and whenever he begins
>> explaining the experience and drawing little diagrams, I feel like I'm
>> beginning to exteriorize (this has happened on three occasions).
>>
>
>    Usually I just go exterior by deciding to go exterior.  Sometimes I

I should have realized.  I guess anything is done by deciding or postulating
something will be done. 8-)

>can't do it, because I'm still near the bottom of the bridge, but it really
>isn't mysterious or anything like that.  Sorry I can't help you more, but
>mostly I go out by going out.  I don't think there is anyway it could hurt
>you as long as you're moving up the bridge.

I find it interesting how early Scn stressed exteriorization (as in the
book, The Creation of Human Ability, etc.) where it was the goal of
that processing.  Now we have such *big* goals like true OT and beyond ...
when someone does go exterior on a level, it's almost not so much a big
deal anymore.  (Not put down exteriorization, but comparing its magnitude
next to OT and above.)

>    Personally I think the best way to get out is to go up the bridge.  I'm
>very actively pursuing this, and I hope you are to.  I've heard of KTL
>completions going exterior after reading the Factors.  I tried doing some
>clay demos of the Factors, and had some cool cognitions.

The Factors.  I'll have to give them a re-read.  (And I'll be sure to
re-read them again after KTL!)

>Much Love,
>-John Holifield
>
>ps.  Everyone is a scientologist, some just haven't cognitied yet.
>
>
>

Jonathon
Barbera
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