HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Is ZMODEM in the public domain?
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:43:27 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Schlumberger Technologies, ATE division, San Jose, Ca.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Cliff Sharp (clifto@indep1.UUCP) wrote:
: In article <68945@cup.portal.com> Robert_N_Brauer@cup.portal.com writes:
: >For everyone who is interested: ZMODEM was created for and remains in
: >the public domain. Later versions of the zmodem protocol are proprietary
: >and are offered by Chuck Fosberg at Omen Technology.
: 
:    As I understand it, the protocol still remains in the public domain, but
: the _implementations_ of it produced later by Chuck are proprietary.  Am I
: right and just making a picky little distinction, or is the protocol itself
: now proprietary?
:    In any event, from what I understand, old protocol implementations will
: still work with new ones, they just don't have all the bang-for-the-buck
: that the newer stuff does.

Copyright notices in the UNIX rzsz package state that versions of rzsz prior
to like 1987 are public domain. After that, Chuck Forsberg owns the copyright.
The rzsz package may be used when communicating with other licensed Omen
Technology products. The rzsz source may be used for non-commercial
or educational purposes, as long as the copyright notices are retained.

Russ Poffenberger               DOMAIN: poffen@sj.ate.slb.com
Schlumberger Technologies ATE   UUCP:   {uunet,decwrl,amdahl}!sjsca4!poffen
1601 Technology Drive		CIS:	72401,276
San Jose, Ca. 95110             Voice: (408)437-5254  FAX: (408)437-5246
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
Subject: Re: Info on: Infotel, Zoom, or Zyxel
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 01:39:17 GMT

dwinters@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (The Lorax) writes:

>I would also ask if anyone knows if the Zoom VFP/VFX V.32bis modem uses a
>16550 UART.  Has anyone had good or bad luck with this modem?


I swore off Zoom modems after I tried the "V.32 turbo" model.
Now I've re-tried them, using the VFXV32BIS model.  It seems to work
fairly well, but has problems ANSWERING in V.42bis mode, and doesn't
seem to always reset properly.  NOT the modem of choice for a BBS.

I'm going to dump them and get Telebits ... something I can Trust.

-- 
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5 High-Speed Lines  V.32bis/V.32/PEP/V.42bis, etc.   Located in Natick, MA USA
From: braden@lincoln.diag.stratus.com (John Braden)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Magazine reviews?
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:16:47 GMT
Followup-To: comp.dcom.modems
Distribution: na
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <wlh1a=j@rpi.edu>, night@acm.rpi.edu (Trip Martin) wrote:
> 
> Can anyone point me to recent magazine reviews comparing modems (or better
> yet fax/modems)?  I'd like to get an idea of what all is on the market,
> and how each compare feature-wise.  Thanks.
> -- 
> Trip Martin
> night@acm.rpi.edu
> --
> Trip Martin
> night@acm.rpi.edu

The November issue of MacUser magazine has an excellent report on V.32bis
modems, and did tests using PTT telephone network simulators.  They found
top performance by the Motorola UDS V.3229 and almost equivalent
performance
for a lot less money by the Supra FaxModem v.32bis.  Close behind was the
Practical Peripherals PM14400FXSA.  Zoom did well on clean lines, but
could not connect over impaired long subscriber loop (rural) lines due
to high attenuation distortion.  For others, see the article.  Hope this
helps!


        John Braden
        braden@lincoln.diag.stratus.com
*****************************************************************
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 of a long time.  It's like a year in a dog's life."
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,misc.forsale.computers,comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: mac1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Mubashir Cheema)
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Supra V.32bis faxmodems for $149.90 !!!
Keywords: announcement
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:03:51 GMT

jcburt@gatsibm.larc.nasa.gov writes:

>In article <mac1.721393012@Ra.MsState.Edu> mac1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Mubashir Cheema) writes:
>>
>>   Hello netters,
>>		today on Nov 9th 1992 I have succefully sold the 300th
>>  Supra V.32bis modem over the net to Bert Lindgren of Georgia. Thanx for
>>  your continous support and trust. As some of you already might know that
>>  Supra has announced a couple of new modems. 
>>

>Hmmm...wasn't somebody just recently complaining of the blatant commercial
>use of this newsgroup for *free* advertising ?


 Well my main intention was to let people know about the New Modems from Supra.
 And since I was selling the modem for alot less than anybody else on the 
 Globe, I thought I'd let people know about that too. I am sorry if my post
 sounded more like a commercial. Guess I got a little carried away. I'll try
 to be more careful in the future.

 Thanx for pointing that out.

 Mubashir.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Mubashir Cheema: Computer Engineering student at Mississippi State University.
Amiga User and Star Trek Fan (me too :)
I can be reached at phone : (601) 324-6433 
US mail  : PO Box 4887, MSU             UPS/FedEx: Greentree T.H. # 33D 
           MS State, MS 39762-4887                 110 Lynn Lane  
                                                   Starkville, MS 39759 
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From: Robert_N_Brauer@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Is ZMODEM in the public domain?
Date: Thu,  5 Nov 92 13:59:12 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: na

Oops, I must plead confusion. I have received posts that name the
creator of ZModem as Chuck Fosberg and as Chuck Forsberg. It is
probably just a typo, but I don't know which one is correct. If
Mr F. is reading this newsgroup, no insult was intended.

Regards, Bob.     Robert_N_Brauer@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.dcom.fax
From: sl@wimsey.bc.ca (Stuart Lynne)
Subject: Re: posting press releases
Organization: BC News and Mail
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:40:01 GMT

>do yall recall the stooge for FRIA (companies who won't license faxback)
>who put out a posting quoting parts of their <expletive-deleted> press 
>release about faxback?  or the pointers to various faxback companies?
>this is all useful info!
>
>i wonder if anyone would be interested in reading the brooktrout
>press release in response to FRIA's legal maneuvering and press release.
>i've got a printout of it somewhere...

No one would object. Especially if you posted both. Would give a bit more
balance. I havn't seen either. 

-- 
Stuart Lynne <sl@wimsey.bc.ca> ....................... UNIX Facsimile Software
Wimsey Information Technologies ................... moderator biz.sco.binaries
uucp login:nuucp passwd:nuucp .................. ftp.wimsey.bc.ca:~ftp/ls-lR.Z
PD Software for SCO UNIX .................. ftp.wimsey.bc.ca:~ftp/pub/wimseypd
Xref: sparky comp.dcom.modems:16403 comp.bbs.waffle:3868
From: carvalho@tribiet.maintech.com (joe carvalho)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Scout+ retraining when connecting to Telebit WB
Date: 2 Nov 92 03:57:01 GMT
Organization: Tribiet: A city much like hell.

Using a Scout+ on a Waffle v1.65 connecting to another Waffle v.165 with 
a WorldBlazer. The Scout dials and connects into the WB fine. When I try 
to connect the WB into the Scout+ the Scout repeatedly(spell?) retrains.
Anyone have acceptable modem dumps for either modem under Waffle v1.65 
please e-mail a copy...

ThanX.

Joe Carvalho
Beacher Tool & Die...A Hughe Jorgen Company
1106 2nd Street, Suite 316
Encinitas, CA. 92024
From: jam@jammys.ocunix.on.ca (James McOrmond)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: ZyXEL sometimes suddenly hangs up
Distribution: world
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:50:55 EST
Organization: Jammy's Amiga Corner BBS - Ottawa, On, Canada

In article <1992Nov2.221530.2696@gamelan> thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke) writes:
>
>Sometimes my ZyXEL (V4.09) just hangs up without any obvious reason. It happens  
>when I'm connected to an USR HST Modem. It sometimes works, sometimes it'll  
>hang up after a few minutes, sometimes even after 10-20 Minutes or so. 

Actually, as funny as it would seem, the problem is on the end of the
USR modem.  USR uses a non-standard destructive break, which is used for a
re-sync.  If you change the setting on your ZyXEL to non-desctructive,
then your system shouldn't hangup anymore.  I used to own a USR Dual, and
thats what I did when connecting to the ZyXEL's that were calling me.

>------------------------------------------------------------------
>Thomas Funke  ** E-mail: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de
>NeXT-Developer * Unix-Consultant
>------------------------------------------------------------------

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Fidonet#1:163/165.0 - (613)521-0648 - VBBS Amiga Intuitionized BBS
UUCP: Jam@Jammys.OCUnix.On.Ca - Amiga 3000T/25/5 - 383Megs
From: kontio@niksula.hut.fi (Ari J Kontiainen)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: SupraFax v32bis and BUSY tone
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:23:32 GMT
	<JESPER.92Nov4210330@elixir.elixir.e.kth.se>
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

In article <JESPER.92Nov4210330@elixir.elixir.e.kth.se> jesper@elixir.e.kth.se (Jesper Karlsson) writes:

   I got the same sympthoms when I "upgraded" my modem from 1.2C to 1.2H. The
   BUSY detect used to work in the old ROM's, so I guess it's a feature. 8^)

I really hope, that it is a feature, because I want the better busy 
detection back (on Finnish telephone lines)!  

	Ari
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 /  puh 90 - 468 2165                       /  
/  e-mail ari.kontiainen@hut.fi            /          - Mikko Kuustonen - 
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: Supra flame
Organization: The Gator Conferencing System 219-289-3745 
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 13:14:34 GMT

bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser) writes:

>That is a problem.  This is why I've been waiting for a couple of years to
>upgrade all of my lines to Telebit.  However it is worth the wait becuase
>the cheapos just aren't worth the aggravation, unless you happen to have 
>lots of time to play around babysitting your modems.

You could always jump on the USR bandwagon.  I put the USR V.32bis
Courier modems as the same class as the Telebit 3000 -- but the USR
has FAX, where as the Telebit's don't -- but then again, I haven't
used the FAX. 

-- 
Larry Snyder                                    internet: larry@gator.rn.com
keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry
Xref: sparky comp.dcom.modems:16458 comp.dcom.fax:2054
From: u7824501@cc.nctu.edu.tw (Wei-Jou Chen)
Subject: Fax software ftp site ?
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 03:07:42 GMT

Hello ! netters,

     Do anyone know where I can find software of Fax in ftp site ?

     If you know, please email to me. I would be very appreciated.

     email address: u7824501@ccsun8.cc.nctu.edu.tw

     Thanks!


Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: alansar@ccs.northeastern.edu (Mohammad Al-Ansari)
Subject: Re: Supra won't connect
Organization: College of CS, Northeastern U
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 03:55:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.010156.3381@unixland.natick.ma.us> bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser) writes:
>David_Hunter@mindlink.bc.ca (David Hunter) writes:
>I have a downstream system who polls my system for uucp mail and usenet
>news.  He has trouble connecting reliably to my Zoom V32FX units ... 
>he unpredictably connects at either MNP-5 or V.42bis .. and at unpredictable
>speeds.  He has much better luck connecting to my T2500's, but even with
>those his Supra fails to make reliable connections.
>
>BTW, he just upgraded to the latest PROMS.  Since upgrading, he has trouble
>connecting to FAX machines he could previously connect to.


Just in case your friend is using WinFax and was using a fix file that was
needed for the previous ROM's called MOD.EXE, he should go back to the old
MOD.EXE now that he has upgraded the ROMs. I had problems after the upgrade
until I reverted to the old file. It now works flawlessly.

I just thought this might be the problem.

>
>-- 
>bill@unixland.natick.ma.us                      ESIX Mailing List Moderator
>Public Access UNIX/USENET/E-MAIL!  UUCP Accounts Available!  (508) 655-3848
>5 High-Speed Lines  V.32bis/V.32/PEP/V.42bis, etc.   Located in Natick, MA USA


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From: a9@btr.BTR.COM (a9  a9@btr.com)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Wanted: 9600 modem
Keywords: 9600
Date: 10 Nov 92 11:16:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. For info contact: info@BTR.COM

wanted 9600 baud modem V.32
send mail to  a9@btr.com

-ashar
a9@btr.com
Xref: sparky comp.dcom.modems:16725 comp.sys.mac.hardware:21359 comp.sys.mac.misc:19059
From: hans@smab.se (Hans C Larsson)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Supra modems only for USA ?
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:46:37 GMT
Organization: Saab Missiles AB, RLD-Gbg, Sweden

I wrote:

>Also note that this modem (and my own Logicode on my Mac that
>I use for calling the Supra at work on a Sun) have a feature where
>you can adjust the signals levels for your particular TeleCom's
>standards.Set S-register 37 to the desired dBm's *below* US-levels
>(-10 dBm in Sweden, i.e ATS37=10).

Oops, to much Spectre - make that S-register 91 !!
-- 
------------------------------------------------------------
        Hans C Larsson			Email:	hans@smab.se
	Saab Missiles, Sweden		Motto:	"keep it short"
From: hzink@alchemy.UUCP (Harald K. Zink)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Illegal Sales from Mark Margolis
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:51:35 GMT
Reply-To: hzink@alchemy.UUCP (Harald K. Zink)
Organization: Alchemy Software Designs

In article <BxAvJD.73p@fig.citib.com> ghica@fig.citib.com (Renato Ghica) writes:

>|> other areas.  I think this activity by Margolis, even if it is commercial
>|> in nature, is not worth the time you have spent to try and stop it.
>|> 
>|> Go clean up a park or something.
>|> 
>|> -- 
>|>     geoff hart ghart@ems news@ems library@ems   x4273   s/ems/ems.cdc.com/

>....

>If the activity is not "worth the time you have spent to try and stop it",
>then why are spending even more time on this issue. Are you trying to save
>people's time? Very noble activity indeed.

>Maybe *YOU* should go clean up a park. :-)

>Then again, everyone is entitled to their own expression, no matter how
>wrong (ie US Presidential elections; ready for "Operation Saxophone"?)


Chill out, man.  By now, more bandwidth has been taken up by this topic, than 
Mr. Margolis probably causes with his posts - and for what purpose, I ask?  At 
this point, the discussion of the issue harms the net more than the actual 
transgression.  Is it worth killing 1000 people to stop one thief?  Harsh 
comparison, but I hope you get the point.

'nuff said from me.,
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.sys.mac.comm
From: huntting@advtech.uswest.com (Brad Huntting)
Subject: Re: Set up for a USR 14.4 Sportster
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:37:01 GMT

Vladimir Vukicevic writes:
> I had this same problem before... I think that Hardware Handshaking isn't
> enabled on the unix side. On SysV, try 'stty rtscts'. I'm not sure of the
> BSD equivlent; it doesn't have rtscts.

Vic Serbe writes:
> Sure it does. It's just called crtscts.

This option is only available on the later Posix versions of BSD
including the all powerfull BSD386 from BSDi.  The old 4.2BSD line
discipline didn't support hardware flow control.

What you really need to use is both CRTSCTS and CRTSOFLOW (in the
termios->cflags word), otherwise the modem can overflow the kernal
buffers in the serial port.  Unfortunatly, the CRTSOFLOW flag is not
supported by the stty, and is not a standard Posix option.

I'm not shure wheather SVRx will support the use of RTS as "Ready to
Recieve" (The DCE (the modem) should only transmit characters when RTS
is hight) to throtle the dataflow from the DCE.  This is the only
useful thing to do with RTS these days (IMHO).

I heard somewhere that using RTS as a "ready to recieve" signal will
probably be incorporated into RS232-E.  Does anyone know anything more
about this?


brad
From: jj@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Jimmy Johnstone)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: HELP! How to switch from data to voice ??
Date: 12 Nov 92 11:18:53 GMT
Reply-To: jj@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Jimmy Johnstone)
Organization: Univ of Edinburgh Dept of Computer Science

In article <a07VTB1w165w@halcyon.com> puma@halcyon.com (puma) writes:
>zzang@stat.ufl.edu (zzang) writes:
>   ...
>> the call. I wonder if there is any
>> Hays modem command which allows me
>> to switch from data to voice without
>> DISCONNECT the data line, so I can go
>> back when I finish the call.
>> I have call-waiting and 3rd-party call
>> services on my phone.
>> 
>Unfortunatelly, you can't usually talk on a line to one party
>and still expect the modem to maintain a connection to a computer
>on the 'other half' of a call-waiting call.
>Certainly, it's possible to do that by adjusting the 'loss-of-
>carrier-to-hangup-time' parameter on the modems on BOTH ends of
>the call.  But in most cases, if you answer the voice call both
>modems will disconnect due to loss of carrier.  In fact, on many
>telephone systems the 'call-waiting-beep' is enough of a disruption
>to cause YOUR modem (and sometimes the one on the other end) to
>disconnect.  Increasing the time mentioned above is used sometimes
>to prevent a disconnect and ignore the voice call, but you will
>still get an error burst (unless the modem is an error-correcting
>one).   
>In any case, you really can't take the voice call and still 
>maintain the data call.

I recently was involved in developing a Modem based on Rockwells RC2324ACE
chipset. This allows use of a Voice/Data arrangement which maintains the
connection.
Historically, I suspect that a connection was established by manually dialling
the other party and once connected, some discussion took place between the
individuals involved (speech) which terminated in "switching to data now",
agreement having been reached on which end was to be in ORIGINATE mode and
which in ANSWER mode. A switch attached to the Modem marked Voice/Data was
switched to data and thus a data link was established.
With the RC2324ACE chipset it is possible to switch between voice and data
connections using the Hayes commands ATA, ATO and ATD to switch to data and
the escape sequence and ATH to return to voice. Provision is made for voice/
data using a Front Panel switch and Indicator.
The RC2324ACE chipset (I think the suffix "E" stands for European but I'm
sure versions exist that will cover your particular area : contact your local
Rockwell Comms support Distributor for details if this is of interest to you)
is a 2400bps Quad Modem with V42/V42bis facilities for Error Correction and
Data Compression. For those not so familiar with such facilites this includes
MN5 data compression and I think it must also include MN4 error correction.

Hope you find the above information useful.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: alex@newcom.kiae.su (Aleksey Rudnev)
Subject: Re: T2500 as a leased line modem?
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:40:21 GMT
Organization: KIAE

In <1992Nov3.153614.168@hsh.com> lee@hsh.com (Lee Havemann) writes:
>I thought that I had read in the Telebit T2500 reference manual that you 
>could configure them to operate as leased line modems, but I seem to have 
>misplaced my book. 
>  We want to use them on a leased line to do UUCP transfers.
>Can we do this, or do I have to buy 2 modems? (I already own a T2500 :-)
Read manual, page 5-68, S101 (3 - answer mode, 4 - originate mode),
and (I don't found during 5 minutes, but it exists) exists some register
to prevent abort of handshake if you host would write to modem
in handshake time /I can't found this register quickly every time as I need it,
but it Exist -:)/.

Only don't set Spoofing in V32 mode. Spoofing and Leased Line have problems
if connections of UUCICO die, but spoofing does'not die (CLOSe packet lost,
for example). But we used 2 T2500 in PEP mode + uucp + spoofing +
(S120, S121 setting) on the very bad leased line.
>If I have to buy 2 of them, what is a good (inexpensive, used) brand
>that would be readily available?
T2500 LeasedLines mode is compatible with the other modems (for example,
MicroCom).

>-- 

> Lee Havemann, Sys_op       HSH Associates          (201) 838-3330 
> Internet: lee@hsh.com    Compuserve: 70410,3507    AOL: HSH Assoc
> "Any opinions expressed are not necessarily those of anyone else, 
>  including myself."                     
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,misc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers
From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Subject: Re: Illegal Sales from Mark Margolis
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 20:59:51 GMT

jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan) writes:
>You don't quite understand one of the basic tenets of the Net.  No
>commercial ventures are alloed, except isolated positngs in
>well-delineated groups set off for new product aznnouncements and the
>like.
*----
Ok.  But it's not clear what "isolated postings" are.  I haven't
seen daily, or even weekly ads from this guy.

>Now, if Joe Shmoe can advertise here, why can't Fred Shmed Inc.?  Why
>not Sears?  Or Tandy, CompUSA, and IBM?
*----
I agree.  But it's not too easy for me to distinguish between a personal
ad that MIGHT be somewhat "commercial" in nature and a genuine personal
ad.  I KNOW that an ad from Tandy, CompUSA, and IBM is commercial.

>Plus, there's the question of the legality of running a "business"
>over the net without paying business taxes, being licensed, etc. (not
>that I'm implying any specific person is unlicensed, but the
>possibilities exist).
*----
Now you're being ridiculous.  Who are you to question whether somebody
is running a business illegally or not?  Tax evasion is a serious charge.
--
	Mike Berger
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: bentley@hellgate.utah.edu (Adam Bentley)
Subject: Have BOCA and running a BBS
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 03:29:49 GMT

	Would somebody be willing to send me their initialization string?

	Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: RE: Buying a modem....HELP!!!!
From: aleung@uwpg02.uwinnipeg.ca
Date: 9 NOV 92 21:06:29 CST
Organization: University of Winnipeg

You can try to see ZyXel.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems