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From: e90pr@efd.lth.se (Per Rauer)
Subject: mail-order
Reply-To: e90pr@efd.lth.se (Per Rauer)
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:50:54 GMT


         Hi,

         I'm looking for a paintball mail-order company that takes international orders. Any information i.e. faxnumber, snalimail etc. will do.

	Thanks  --Per
                    
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From: jseymour@medar.com (James Seymour)
Subject: Re: F1 vent hole
Organization: Medar, Inc.     Farmington Hills, MI
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 23:06:44 GMT

In article <BvFy4C.JHz@wilber.rich.nt.com> aalder@nrchh088.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Al Alder II) writes:
>>bottle's valve has closed, of course).  Excess gas is vented
>>through this.  It's a lot more "comfortable" than having it
>>wildly vent all about and it helps preserve CA tank O-rings.
>>Been playing with the idea of providing my F1 with a similar
>>feature, but haven't worked-up the guts to go drilling into
>>it :-).
>
>>I wonder why the other manufacturers haven't picked-up on this
>>neat little feature.  Every player I've seen that has a
>>Spitfire, has used one, or has seen this feature in use, likes
>>it a lot.
>
>
>I don't know what version of the illustrator you are using, but 
>my illustrator has a vent hole as you are talking about.
>
>

Hmmm...  I suspect one that's somewhat older than your's.

>Al Alder 
>

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From: kunz@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (kunz peter)
Subject: Re: CA Tanks available
Keywords: CO2 CA Paintball
Organization: Informatik Club Uni Zurich
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:42:54 GMT

In article <BvKIsq.J0K@medar.com> jseymour@medar.com (James Seymour) writes:
>>>
>>will they also handle calls on broken connecting pins? we kill one every
>>outing or so.... any solutionm to the problme yet?
>
>Whoa!  You're talking about the pin that connects the lower and upper
>bolts?  Sounds like something is seriously wrong here.  I'm not saying
>it doesn't happen from time-to-time, but *I* don't know of a single
>person that it has happened to.  I'll have to ask around about that.
>
well, next to orings, they're the most wanted f1 spare part.



cu
-pete



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From: albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku)
Subject: Re: paint use
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 07:26:53 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <selt=z_00iUz87IowN@andrew.cmu.edu> ar2z+@andrew.cmu.edu (Alexander Franklin Rose) writes:
>
> On an average day of practice I wll shoot 2000-3000 rounds with my
>Bud Orr pump gun, it has a hand built auto trigger but other than that
>it is essentially stock.  I don't know why other people use more, it may
>be due to the terrain in New Mexico, but I am not sure.  I know my paint
>consumption doubled when I had a sponsor picking up the tab.  At a
>tournament I will shoot over a thousand rounds in a single game and
>maybe get one elimination.  However the two crawlers that I am covering
>may get the crucial three eliminations that blow a side and win the
>game.  Something to think about.
>                                Alexander Rose of the IRONMEN
> 

Hee, if I had someone bankrolling the paint supply, I'd be a tad more
"liberal" with the paint too. ^_^  2000-3000 rounds during practice, eh?
So, your the one driving up the paintball prices. ^_^
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From: johnm@cory.Berkeley.EDU (John D. Mitchell)
Subject: Re: Pro Am Info Request
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:13:33 GMT

In article <1ad96uINN4u2@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> mjc5@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael J.
Cavotta) writes: 
>
>	I am the owner of a new Tippmann Pro Am, and am seeking information 
>from those in the know on how to make my gun as reliable and accurate as
>possible, within financial reason.
>
>	Could you please include, if you can:
>
>	* What brand of paint, if any, performs the best in the Pro Am
>	* Are there any worthwhile modifications that can be done
>	* What is the best barrel-length for this gun
>	* Anything else you can think of

My setup:
	Ditched the plastic foregrip for the aluminum one.
	200 round Indian Springs hopper.
	12 Oz. CA tank
	Everything else stock.

Paint:
	Mine and a friend's both do well with Lemon or White Trracer and
with the black shelled with yellow filling Zap.  We've tried other colors
of Trracer but had higher breakage rates.  We also tried RP Premium and my
gun seemed to like it fine but my friend's gun broke a lot of balls.

Potentially cool modifications:
	Armson or Smart Parts barrels.  We still use the stock barrel and
are happy with that (for now anyways).  The Smart Parts equipped Pro/Ams
that I've seen are a good bit quieter than mine but don't seem to shoot any
better (farther or more accurately).  As for barrel lengths, I'd stick with
something around 11 to 12.5 inches.  Anything longer becomes unwieldy at
any kind of close up action and the couple of Pro/Ams with 14+ inch barrels
didn't shoot much farther than my stock barrel.

	Hose-fed back-bottle setup (i.e. you carry the CA tank on your back
and have a hose to your gun.  This makes for a very agile system.

Hope this helps,
	John
From: henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: paint use
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:43:57 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <selt=z_00iUz87IowN@andrew.cmu.edu> ar2z+@andrew.cmu.edu (Alexander Franklin Rose) writes:
>
>
>
>
> On an average day of practice I wll shoot 2000-3000 rounds with my
>Bud Orr pump gun, it has a hand built auto trigger but other than that

Whats the difference between a hand built auto-trigger and the aftermarket one?
Is the hand-built auto-trigger more gas efficient?


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space cow invading St. Canard -Dark Wing Duck

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From: albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku)
Subject: Re: paint use
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 04:00:25 GMT

In article <EemBy3S00iUz085Zhc@andrew.cmu.edu> ar2z+@andrew.cmu.edu (Alexander Franklin Rose) writes:
>Hey you guys got uptight over that amount of paint.  Blaming me for
>driving up prices, don't you think that is a little silly.  Paintball

Just a little bit of humor there...very little. ^_^  Sorry for the
misunderstanding.

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From: kunz@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (kunz peter)
Subject: Re: Information needed
Organization: Informatik Club Uni Zurich
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:56:42 GMT

In article <glock.74@chip.cba.ufl.edu> glock@chip.cba.ufl.edu (Joe Granto) writes:
>
>Question to everyone in general (yeah I know it's an old one...):
>What CA pump out there is VERY easy to take care of AND is of HIGH quality?
>
STERLING
-brass
-silver
-stp

>**     "When the going gets tough, the tough get a GLOCK."    **

does glock make PB guns??? :-)


cu
-pete



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From: dwj0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DAVID W. JONES)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Phantom Semi-Auto?
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:58:59 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

From what I uunderstand the Phantom semi is in the works. Guestimated time of
delivery is "awhile". Update for our mate across the lake.
 
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From: christos@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Lord Foul)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Black Balls
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:43:24 GMT
Reply-To: christos@ics.uci.edu (Lord Foul)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.

In article <1992Sep29.193022.1637@ifi.unizh.ch> kunz@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (kunz peter) writes:
>In article <3276@isgtec.isgtec.com> robert@isgtec.com (Robert Osborne) writes:
>>henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan) writes:
>>> >Both of these had bright tracer shots mixed in, and both were absolutely
>>> >impossible to track anyhow.  It's even worse if you're in shadow or it's
>>> >overcast... the balls come out of your gun and vanish.  I'd never use
>>> >them again.
>>> Are you sure they are impossible to track?
>>
>>I've used black balls in two types of terrain (light forest and
>>heavy brush) and the balls just vanished into both.
>>
>
>and they come out of nowhere when you're the target :-)
>2 sides to everything

True, they are next to impossible to track, but it's so rewarding
to have your paint dissappear and then suddenly explode on your target! ;-)

Chris
From: wb9omc@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Crosman Guns..
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:43:35 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

tha54178@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Hordemaster ) writes:

>I have heard that Crosman Airguns made a .68 cal paintball conversion barrel
>for their model .357 pellet pistol.  I was wondering if this was true, and 
>if so, where I could buy/order one in the Champaign-Urbana area (University
>of Illinois).  Any information would be welcomed...Thanx...
>			T.	

	I'd think your best bet would be to check in Action Pursuit Games
or (oh, shit....what the heck's the name of the other magazine.......).
there are generally oodles of advertiser listings.

	Seems to me that there were a couple places in Illinois that
sell paintguns, don't recall specifically the Crosman 3357, which I think
is the right model number.  I think it was called either "Spotmarker" or
"Spotmaster" or something like that.  I believe, however, that it is
a .50 cal gun, not a .62 or .68.  If you are playing on a field that
doesn't sell .50 and doesn't allow "walk-on" ammo, that might leave
you with a bit of a problem. (although I can't imagine a field owner who
isn't losing money anyway by not selling you .50 who wouldn't at least
agree to let you use it after they inspect it first.....)

	Uhhhhh...Paintball Mania Supplies I think is in St. Louis,
MO if memory serves correctly.  Some folks have bitched about them but I
have not had troubles with them at all, bought from them about 3 times
I think.  Biggest reason I bought there for some stuff was they had
way lower prices than a lot of the other mail order houses.  If you look
at the ads, you will find some incredible variations in prices on 
the exact same item.  I had good shipping from them, reasonable time of
delivery.

	I know that there was SOME supplier in Illinois but the name and
location totally escapes me right now.  Their ad was in one of the mags,
I'm pretty sure, so check it out....

Duane
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From: richhg@hsv3.lsil.com (Rich Henderson-Gragg)
Subject: Re: CA Tanks available
Keywords: CO2 CA Paintball
Organization: Headland Technology
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:19:08 GMT

in an article kunz@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (kunz peter) writes:

>the f1 works fine with standard bottleds, but is more consisten if used
>wiht a siphon, although it's a pain top get it below 300fps on siphon.

   I just checked with the mfg. and they said that though the illustrator
   was NOT designed to work with liquid CO2 that it was ok to do so
   when you need to (ran out of CO2 and friend only has a siphon bottle
   to lend.).  It will reduce efficency and increase recock margin and
   increase wear.  The minor improvement in shot to shot consistancy is
   not worth the wear.  If someone is having trouble with consistancy
   first verify the gun is properly cleaned and lubed with a thin oil
   that doesn't harden with cold.  If still having trouble call the 
   help line at 503)667-3705.

       -Rich-
 

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From: sh666@selway.umt.edu (Jim Neighbors)
Subject: Re: whine whine
Organization: University of Montana
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 05:31:03 GMT

Spraying and Precesion shooting... they're just two different ways
of playing the game.  Spraying is the easiest for beginners and for
those who have alot less patience than your 'precision' (btw: thats
supposed to be 'precision' in the first line also) shooter.  Where
I play the trends seem to switch in and out.  Some seasons spraying
is king the next season it might be stealth and accuracy.  I always
respect a guy who can put me out in 1 shot over the guy who has to
shoot 100 rounds at me.  Oh well...

							Dave
From: mjc5@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael J. Cavotta)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Pro Am Info Request
Date: 30 Sep 1992 22:20:14 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


	I am the owner of a new Tippmann Pro Am, and am seeking information 
from those in the know on how to make my gun as reliable and accurate as
possible, within financial reason.

	Could you please include, if you can:

	* What brand of paint, if any, performs the best in the Pro Am
	* Are there any worthwhile modifications that can be done
	* What is the best barrel-length for this gun
	* Anything else you can think of

Thanks in advance!
-- 
Michael J. Cavotta

"You either ride the steam-roller, or you stand there whining and die..."
From: tazumar@bcsaic.boeing.com (Ronald Tazuma)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Reasonable rate of fire??
Keywords: Paintball hits
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:41:30 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services, Seattle

I'd like to hear from other people about their experience with hostile
players.  I played in a walk-on game and opponent was pinning down a 
player of my team.  The opponent was down on the ground behind a large
stump.  I could see where he was firing from but I couldn't see him. 
I was creeping up close to the ground, when I did see his feeder, I was
~40 feet away with weeds and brush obstructing my vision from the prone
position.  I wasn't going to stand up and give away my position so I
decided to guess where his body might be and lay down a 6-8 round burst
which probably took 1 second to do in order to cut through the brush.

Now this guy gets pissed and claims that I fired him up!  He claimed
that he got 6 shots to his mask and he called out on the first one.

Now I didn't think that this what I did was very unreasonable or malicious
as I have been in situations where I was raising my arms and calling out
but shots were in the air and I received 5-6 extra hits before. 

After that particular game, I seeked out this fellow to apologize for
the extra hits but he was really worked up, claiming "I'll get you back,
revenge is a bitch!"  i.e. not accepting apologies.  The ref that was
watching the firfight said to him, "Knock it off, he was only cutting
a hole throgh the brush and You didn't yell LOUD enough."  I told him
that he had a real bad attitude and walk away.  Later I asked some team
mates to watch my rear cause of this guy acting that way.

So, has anyone else had these types of problems before and what do you
think, was my ROF to excessive in this situation?  Was he just a sore
loser?  How do you turn these types of vengeful players around?  
-- ron
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From: henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan)
Subject: Re: paint use
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:45:06 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <1992Oct1.081612.24317@netcom.com> albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku) writes:
>
>Heh, supply and demand.  He's using up the existing supply and prices go up
>becuase there is less paint to go around. ^_^
>

I don't think so.  Paintball Manufacturers are like the Dorito Chip company.
Shoot all you want, they'll make more.  
I can forsee paintball prices rise if the price of raw material goes up or one
dominating company decides to buy/drive out the competitors.  From the looks
of it, R.P Scherer (holder of the patents for gel encapsulating machines) could
drive out the competition if it want to.



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HenryC@Panix.Com
From: z_hiltoncc@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Another request for info...
Date: 1 Oct 92 03:52:38 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

Hi...just stopped in for a silly question.

I live in the Nacogdoches and Lufkin area of East Texas and would like some
information on games in the area. Two friends and I have never played before,
but would like to get into a few games and try it out. E-mail would be
appreciated.

Thanks,
Chris Hilton
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: bbs.rchen@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Rodney Chen)
Subject: paintball on a budget
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 04:40:55 GMT

Hello...I'm a little low on $$$ so I can't spend much.  With CA, 
Pump/Auto-Trigger, Bulk Loader, etc...for around $250, can I get a 
reliable gun?  Please e-mail any reponses...thanks in advance.

--
Rodney Chen (bbs.rchen@tsoft.sf-bay.org)
From: shimizu@unix.SRI.COM (Dan Shimizu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: INFO: IMP from Cooper-T
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:14:04 GMT
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, California


   I'm trying to get some information on the IMP from Cooper-T. For those who
don't know, the blurb in the October '92 APG sez that the IMP is a semi-auto
conversion for Sherdians and WGP Snipers. It uses direct blow back operation
firing from an open bolt using liquid C02. It has a semi-external velocity
regulator and a field strip bolt. One of the suprising claims was that it would
add 50-75 feet in range!
   I talked to Chauncey at Cooper-T (714-549-5730) and
of course he gushed on about the kit. He said that for the Sniper you have to
drill a hole in the recever opposite the feed port to put an "anti-doubling"
device in. He said that the Sniper needs one anyway...You also have to file
down the sear (? maybe some other part) to allow clearance for a new spring
that you install. The cost is around $185. Oh, he said the increased range was
due to "backspin" put on the paintball so it will sail like a golf ball!?!
   I'm thinking about converting my Sniper II to semi-auto, but have been
warned away from the finicky auto-cocker conversion, I wanted to see if anyone
has heard anything about the IMP. How easy is the conversion? Is there really
an increase in range? How accurate is the gun compared to preconversion (note
it's changed from close-bolt to open-bolt operation?) I have had good luck with
Cooper-T's other products (their namesake bolt for example) and I tend to
expect good things from them...is this a new quailty product or APG hype?

post or email, I will summarize if there's interest.

Thanks,
DAN

shimizu@unix.sri.com

ps... a What's Up! to any of the BA Lost Boys reading this!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: agillum@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Aaron C Gillum)
Subject: Automag
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 22:57:34 GMT

Ok, I started out in paintball thinking I could buy a $160 Trracer and be 
happy. Then I walk into a shop and see the VM-68, few days later, the 
illustrator, now, I just test fired the automag. Seems I jump a couple of 
hundred bucks every visit.

What I'm trying to say, is.... Are there any drawbacks to the Automag (besides 
the $530 w/powerfeed and crownpoint price tag -OUCH)? If anyone can find a way 
to convince me its not worth it, my wallet would be much happier.


Thanks,
Aaron Gillum
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From: sew@philabs.philips.com (Scott E. Wakeman)
Subject: Re: Rifled barrels
Originator: sew@condor
Keywords: barrel
Reply-To: sew@philabs.philips.com (Scott E. Wakeman)
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff, NY 10510
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:51:59 GMT


In article <1992Sep30.164056.20518@newstand.syr.edu>, aktan@rodan.acs.syr.edu (My name is Andre...) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep30.125958.25048@philabs.philips.com> sew@philabs.philips.com (Scott E. Wakeman) writes:
|> >|> 
|> >|> on a nother note, i've heard smart parts barrels, and they silence the
|> >|> gun quite a bit...
|> >
|> >   definately. With an extra silencer on the end they're REAL quiet.
|> 
|> Are you serious??? You have a silencer on the end of a Smart Parts barrel??
|> What is the overall length of your gun???  Just seems to be slightly silly
|> to me...  Doesn't the silencer affect your accuracy too???  No offense... just
|> curious...
|> 
|>  - Andre

     I don't always use it , but I have. I'm not sure of the overall length,
 but the barrel is 14.5" and the silencer is roughly 6". Accuracy is still
 great. Also , in the morning when it's cold, the gases that shoot out the barrel
 stay in the silencer(most of the gas), so there is no cloud of spent Co2.
     Many times I have sat very quiet, waiting & waiting, while my friends
 flush the other team over to me. It takes them a long time to figure out
 just where exactly I am. I limit my shots to single shot bursts so they have 
 a harder time. 
     
     Works for me.


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