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From: twetzel@ucs.indiana.edu (Tom Wetzel)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Corvetts
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:10:15 GMT
Organization: Indiana University
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In article <1993Jan25.205352.22572@sequent.com> Jim
Duckering, jd@sequent.com writes:
>What years of corvetts are worth looking at and which
ones should 
>you avoid?  Any infomation on corvetts would be
appreciated.

Since you haven't expressed any preferences the following
is pretty general.
If you just want a Corvette you might look at the 78
through 82 models.
In each year the creature comforts became a little better
but of course,
the price went up.  The models from 1980 on had less
weight and therefore
got better gas mileage.  A broad price range for cars in
the 78-82 model
years is $6,000 - $12,000.  There are a few special cars
in this group
including the 78 Pace Car, 78 25th Anniversary edition and
the 82 collectors
edition that will be much more expensive than the price
range mentioned
above.  Naturally a low mileage well kept car will command
a premium also.
Earlier cars are a possibility but you may not be
interested in maintaining
a car that is over 15 years old.

The current body style was introduced in the 84 model. 
(There are no 83
model year Corvettes)  The 84+ cars have computers which
make them more
expensive to fix than the earlier models.  Insurance costs
are a factor
too.  

The general answer to your general question:  Buy an 80 or
81 Corvette
with the smaller HP engine (L-48), your choice of auto or
4-spd,  A/C
is nice because Vette cockpits can get warm since you are
sitting right
behind the engine, next to the tranny, in front of the
diff. and right
over the exhaust system - all in a small cockpit.  There
are no 
convertables made between 1975 and 1986.  All models
starting with 76
through 1982 have T-tops.  84+ have a solid one-piece lift
off roof.  

Good Luck!!!
From: mps1@cec1.wustl.edu (Mihir Pramod Shah)
Subject: Re: Buying a Saturn
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 01:13:56 GMT

In article <1js6neINNklk@gizmo.usc.edu> kimd@gizmo.usc.edu (Kim Daugherty) writes:
>
>Is the rumor true that Saturn dealers will not bargain off the sticker price?
>If anyone has got one below MSRP, could you please share your story?  I'd 
>like to buy an SL as a cheap reliable car.  Thanks.
>
>
>-- 
>+---------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
>| Kim Daugherty                   | PhD program in Computer Science   |
>| kimd@gizmo.usc.edu              | University of Southern California |
>+---------------------------------+-----------------------------------+

Kim,
     Yup....you got it....It's called the "No-Dicker-Sticker" concept, and 
Saturn has done it well.  Of course, it seems from your point of view that
you are disappointed that they don't negoctiate the price.  Trust me, Saturn
makes the car-buying experience a much more pleasant episode.  They treated
me much better than the nearby Honda dealer who wouldn't even begin to 
quote a price or negotiate until we COMMITTED to buying a car.  That to me
was harrassing and brash.  (While Hondas are great cars, the fact that they
are such good machines makes some dealers push the customer around because 
they know the car will sell - I've heard of other Honda dealers that have
also treated their customers the same;  Please note that not all Honda dealers
act this way, as this was an isolated incident).

     The folks at Saturn simply let the car sell itself, and since the prices
are so low already, sticker-haggling is meaningless and unneccessary.  You 
can probably pick up a well-equipped Saturn SL for around $10,000 (base price
is $9195).  I'm almost sure you'll be happy with both the dealer and the car.


Sincerely, 
Mihir Shah
mps1@cec1.wustl.edu
Happy owner of a 1991 SL2

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From: chris@lightnin.Columbia.NCR.COM ()
Subject: Re: Is it OK to wash off the engine?
Organization: NCR Corp, E&M-Columbia, Columbia, SC
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 14:51:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.170501.21253@netcom.com> derich@netcom.com (Scott A. Steinbrink) writes:
>gregb@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Greg Begay) writes:
>
>
>>On my two Toyota's (4cyl Camry and 4cyl truck), it is *VERY* 
>>difficult to not get oil on the engine block when changing 
>>oil filters.  This, later, leads the that disgusting burnt 
>>oil smell.
>
>>When is it ok to wash off the engine block?  Are there
>>precautions that should be taken?  Should you wash the
>>engine at all?
>
>In my heartful opinion, you should not wash the engine at all,
>but steam it.  Water will cause rust, but steam wouldn't.
>
>I'm sure you can find someplace that has steam hoses.
>
>- Scotty

   I was told to be careful about steam cleaning the engine, for it may
dry the rubber hoses and eventually cause them to crack.  Don't know if
this is true, though.
From: meb4593@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com (Michael Bain)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: 4WD's
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:15:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Boeing Commercial Airplane Group, Seattle


Never pay sticker!  I paid $300 over invoice on my Cherokee.


-- 
Michael Bain                                            (206) 234-6942
Boeing Commercial Airplane Group           meb4593@icdfs.ca.boeing.com
Seattle, WA 98124

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From: sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund)
Subject: Re: Oakland Roadster Show
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 21:25:54 GMT

I tried to respond to  Dan Jones but it's not going through, plus I 
don't know which group he responded from,

so, if you're out ther Dan, here's my response:


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From: danjones@xploit.eng.pyramid.com (Dan Jones)
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To: sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund)
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Subject: Re: Oakland Grand National Roadster Show

|> for Bob Kehoe, a big "HI" from Linda, she was at the show signing posters

Sharen,

I'm assuming you're speaking of Linda Vaughn.  Would you know how old she is, I
saw a picture of her recently that was taken in 1966.

Dan Jones

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From: "Sharen Rund" <sharen_rund@ecmail.is.lmsc.lockheed.com>
Subject: Re: Oakland Grand National 
To: "Dan Jones" <danjones@xploit.eng.pyramid.com>
Return-Receipt-To: "Sharen Rund" <sharen_rund@ecmail.is.lmsc.lockheed.com>

        Reply to:   RE>>Oakland Grand National R

A gentleman should never ask a lady her age - But....

Although Linda looks like she's in her 30s, she is over 50, don't know how far
over and don't really care - she's a dynamite lady regardless of her age - I
only hope I can look that good then

-- 
________________       __        ________________   "They that can give up
\_________      \     /_ \      /      _________/  essential liberty to 
 \_________      \_____/  \____/      _________/  obtain temporary safety
  \___________________      __________________/  deserve neither liberty 
                     /______\                   nor safety."  
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From: tedebear@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen)
Subject: Re: Before Buying Japanese.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 22:05:35 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.142044.20423@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jnielsen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John F Nielsen) writes:
>In article <1993Jan21.194635.7009@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com> c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) writes:
>>
>>'CR Statistics' is an oxymoron.
>>
>>Unless CR can prove that they have used a sample population
>>representative of the actual population of course...
>
>Why is that necessary for what they are trying to show. Unless the
>people answering the questionaires are morons or like to lie, the
>data is useful, it is not that hard to know when you got a repair.

i was going to stay out of this one, but this seems painfully obvious.
CR is trying to rate the cars relative to each other in a number of
areas, by using data obtained from questionnaires.  you need a
certain sample size in order to be mostly certain that your results
are representative of the population as a whole.  to use an extreme
example, i'm sure you would reject a rating based on a single
survey response.  how about two?  how about three?
as you increase the sample size the probability of incorrect results
decreases (which means that the probability of correct results increases).
at some arbitrary level we say we're satisfied and use that as our
minimum sample size.  in practice, people more than the minimum sample
size because they usually have to throw some of the responses away
(invalid responses).

the point is, even if the people are perfectly truthful and unbiased
in their response (and i am dubious about this), random chance may
cause their results to be wildly different from the results of the
whole group.  this is a critical issue in the reliability of CR's
ratings.  if the sample size is too small, it's not going to be much
more reliable than asking one or two people.  the information they
give may still be useful, but it will be lacking in authoritativeness.

-teddy
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From: morton@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Brent Morton)
Subject: Re: BMW M3 Inquiry
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:32:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.130807.1@sdl.ug.eds.com> richardk@sdl.ug.eds.com writes:
>...great gobs of hot air deleted...
>
>> it was the 190E 2.3-16, which had the 2.3 liter 4-cylinder
>> with a 16 valve cosworth head.  the 2.6 liter is a shrunken version
>> of the 3 liter inline-6 and has only 2 valves per cylinder (and
>> would not have 16 valves in any event).  the 190E 2.3-16 is no
>> longer sold in the U.S., but it's still available in europe.
>> didn't sell too well because of the 300E, which was bigger, faster,
>> and cost less.
>
>
>You may be correct about the US Merc 190's, but in Europe (or at least the UK)
>there is no such thing as a 2.3 Merc 190. There _IS_ a 2.6 16v which must
>simply be a big(ish) 4 cylinder job. 
>
>I dunno why I'm mailing this really - hope someone's suitably fascinated! :-)

Here I am! Let me clear something up that this first guy said: The 190E 2.3-16
is no longer sold in Europe. It was dropped with the advent of the 190E 2.6,
not the 300E, because customers weren't interested in the 2.3 when they could
buy the 2.6 with only slightly less power for much less money.

Now for you: The 190E 2.3 obviously didn't make it to the UK, but it was
definitely sold in the rest of Europe -- my neighbour in Wiesbaden, Germany,
has one. The 16V you're talking about is the 2.5-16, not a 2.6-litre, which is
the six-cylinder. An F-reg. 190E 2.5-16 goes for about #19000, and a G-reg.
2.6 for about #15000.

-- Brent
morton@artifis.gaul.csd.uwo.ca

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From: nau@ssesco.com (William Nau)
Subject: Re: Worst Car Award
Organization: SSESCO
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:50:31 GMT

> Why has nobody mentioned what, to me, seem like the quintessential ugly
> cars: the AMC Matador, the AMC Gremlin, and the AMC Pacer?  I don't think

The origional poster requested that they be cars still made today.
However, we could start our own thread.
-- 
William R. Nau
Supercomputer Systems Engineering and Services Company (SSESCO)
511 11th Avenue South, Suite 216
Minneapolis, Minnesota 55415-1536
(612) 342-0003

nau@SSESCO.com
From: shaikh@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca (SHAIKH/AMIR/MR)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Dodge Omni 89
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:49:24 GMT
Organization: EE Lab, McGill University EE Lab, Montreal

I was wondering...it's rumored that the Dodge Omni series has
starting trouble in winter...is this true???

It is also said that the 89 model of this doesn't have starting troubles...
can anybody confirm this??

late,r
Amir
shaikh@pooky.ee.mcgil.ca
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.auto.tech
From: bing@jazz.concert.net (Carter E. Bing)
Subject: 1-800 for Ford
Organization: MCNC Center for Communications -- CONCERT Network
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:05:06 GMT

	 Greetings,

	Could someone pass the 1-800 number for Ford to me.

				Thanks,
				Carter 

--

                           "Black music is in, Black culture is in, 
                            but Black _people_ will never be in."
                                             -Kyle Baker, Why I Hate Saturn
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From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: Re: Before Buying Japanese.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:30:48 GMT

In article <1jkteoINN6uh@male.EBay.Sun.COM> elkinbar@filly.EBay.Sun.COM (Greg Elkinbard) writes:
>In article <1993Jan19.083408.4345@informix.com>, aland@informix.com
>(Colonel Panic) writes:
>> 
>> Actually, that's not a bad example.  A recent CR rated the Probe GT and the
>> MX-6 LS in the same article.  As for repair ratings, they characterized the 
>> past years' models of the Probe as "worse than average" but of the MX-6 as 
>> "better than average".  Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm sure somebody will [-:),
>> but even in 1992 and previous, weren't they the SAME DAMN PLATFORM with the
>> EXACT SAME MOTORS?!?!
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Alan Denney      aland@informix.com      {pyramid|uunet}!infmx!aland
>> 
>The same platform and the same engine, doesn't mean that the cars are the same.
>As my parents found out when they bought a British "clone" of an Acura
>Legend,  the Sterling.   And while the engine, transmission, and the suspension
>peaces on the Sterling are still functional, everything else fell apart.
>The interior electricals failed often enough to push the reliablity rating
>of the car far down.
>
>Greg

	Yes, Greg, but you forget, the Sterling was made in England, where
reliable cars are only made by GM (Vauxhall) and Rolls Royce.  The Legend was
made in Japan.  The Probe and MX-6, and 626 for that matter, are all made in
the same plant in Flat Rock, MI.  Obviously the same car made in different
factories by different companies could, and probably would, have dissimilar
repair records, but cars made in the same plant by the same workers won't...



-- 
 Chintan Amin  The University of Illinois, Urbana Champaign  c-amin1@uiuc.edu
  "Public speaking is very easy!" <-- Quayle 10/88  ;-)
  "Unfortunately, the people of Louisiana are not racists" <-- Quayle, 10/12/90
NeXTMail Accepted at cka52397@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu  Go Illini Holiday Bowl 1992
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From: hellmann@cs.scarolina.edu (Doug Hellmann)
Subject: Re: Insurance rates?
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:48:03 GMT

James Edward Burns <ddujeb@arco.com> writes:

>Re: Insurance rates?
>Ive got a 75 Stingray right now which I pay $175 a month for full
>converage.  I was looking to buy a 90 ZR1 Corvette.  My  insurance agent
>gave me a quote for $600 a month full converage w/ $1k deductible.  23yr
>old w/ no tickets.  I guess State Farm just does not like this car.  
>J.B

I notice that a lot of the people posting about their insurance rates
are with State Farm.  I'm with State Farm in Columbia SC  and I found
them to be the cheapest around. I'm 21, female, clean record and I only
pay $161.00 / 6 months.  Of course I drive a 68 Nova, but is insurance
really that much more expensive for men? Also, is State Farm the
cheapest you've found for these outrageous prices?

-Samantha (posting from my man's account till my own is up...)
.
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From: jmh@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Jeffrey M. Hoffmeister)
Subject: Re: 1993 Camaro
Organization: Free Software Foundation
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:06:53 GMT

In article <C1I72A.9KG@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chintan Amin) writes:
>In article <1k4j9uINNreu@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> rremaley@bcm.tmc.edu writes:
>>Does anyone have any info such as pricing on these jewels?
>>
>>
>>rremaley@bcm.tmc.edu
>>
>
>	Around 20K according to C/D's comparo test between the 'stang Cobra, 
>Firebird Formula and Camaro Z28, which it won...
>


Too bad its so damn UGLY.  The hood that blends into the mirrrors is the
most god awfull looking affect since the caprice.  And the front end looks
like they combined the old camaro with the Geo Storm *gack*.

Jeff
jmh@gnu.ai.mit.edu


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From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: Re: Lexus Commercials
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:50:10 GMT



	Speaking of Lexus Commercials, what about that raindrop add, which 
extolls the fact that the LS400 is weatherproof.  For $50K it had better be
weatherproof.  Damn, I thought Lexus learned about stupid luxury car ads
from Infiniti.


-- 
 Chintan Amin  The University of Illinois, Urbana Champaign  c-amin1@uiuc.edu
  "Public speaking is very easy!" <-- Quayle 10/88  ;-)
  "Unfortunately, the people of Louisiana are not racists" <-- Quayle, 10/12/90
NeXTMail Accepted at cka52397@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu  Go Illini Holiday Bowl 1992
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From: phr@telebit.com (Paul Rubin)
Subject: Re: Lexus Commericals
Organization: Telebit Corporation; Sunnyvale, CA, USA
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 07:40:51 GMT

In article <C1AKqn.M7K@acsu.buffalo.edu> v064mb9k@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (NEIL GANDLER) writes:

     I think Lexus commercials are so unique and successfull that many
   automakers including Chrysler with their Lh commericals are doing 
   the same. Instead of Lexus talking about how great their cars are
   they demonstrate their technology with interesting special effects
   and crazy apparatus like they used when doing the pinball test
   and with the alarm clocks with the baby sleeping in side. 

I haven't seen these commercials but Chrysler (or maybe it was Ford)
did something similar about 15 years ago.  They had a series of ads
for some luxocruiser where they did things like serve tea in the
back seat.

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From: coriale@casper.serum.kodak.com (Matthew Coriale (x37975))
Subject: Have YOU driven a Probe lately? (wuz Re: Probe GT suspension)
Organization: Clinical Products Division, Eastman Kodak Company
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:32:59 GMT

In article <bob1.727651905@cos> bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw) writes:
>In <1993Jan19.222331.17633@ulysses.att.com> jdt@ulysses.att.com (Jonathan D. Trudel[ftd]) writes:
>
>>In article <107308@bu.edu>, heiser@acs.bu.edu (Bill Heiser) writes:
>>|> In article <C0tr2p.MyL@wiretap.spies.com> jcmiller@wiretap.spies.com writes:
>>|> >I really like the Probe GT except for the harsh ride. During a test
>>|> 
>>|> Then why don't you get the regular Probe?
>
>>Well, I'm not the original person, but since I test-drove a new GT, I
>>can venture a guess -  the Probe doesn't "stay put" on the road. 
>>Instead, it reacts to every change in the road and the body is
>>almost constantly moving as a result.  I don't care that the ride
>
... <stuff deleted> ...

I own a "regular" '93 probe.  I have driven both mine and the GT.  I have
also logged a few miles on my sister's 91 Probe.  Here's _my_ take on what
I've been reading (IMHO):

The older probes (GT and regular) don't hold a candle to the new ones in
terms of handling and power.  I used to think that they were a "toy"
sports car...  They've definitely moved up a notch or two.  No torque-
steer in the regular or the GT that I drove.

The regular probe does handle phenominally (I wonder how long before the
struts loosten up...)  I've had several people in my car for test drives
who have replied "if I did that with MY car, I'd end up on the roof!"
The GT is pretty stiff, but it depends upon whether you like a rough ride
or not.  (BTW, I took my probe for a 7 hour, non-stop road trip and I was
very comfortable when I finally got out.  No backaches... quite nice.
'twas also nice to get about 37 MPG for a change)

The only 2 complaints I have with my probe: power at 65 MPH for passing is
only so-so.  You get adequate to pass, but doesn't compare to my Mustang.
The other is the location of the @#$@#$ oil filter.  It's @#$@#$ impossible
to change without getting the car up on lifts of some kind.  "I can see it,
but I can't get a wrench on it..."  Oh well, I guess I'll just have to resign
myself to taking my car to the Marx Bros.(TM) Oil & Lube from now on :(

- Matt

p.s.  The probe was actually my "compromise" car... I was sure I would be
disappointed.  I'm surely NOT disappointed after 8000 miles.
From: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Lotus Elan in 'Basic Instinct'
Date: 25 Jan 1993 18:23:03 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) says:

>In article <1993Jan18.150855.667@pencom.com> stecz@pencom.com writes:
>>I watched "Honey I blew Up the Baby" this weekend, and there was a Lotus Elan  
>>(new one) in that movie, it doesn't get smashed, but it does get put in the  
>>baby's pocket, and then later in the movie is shrunk.  Lotus must like giving  
>>it's cars to movie companies.
>>
>>Esprit		Basic Instinct
>>Elan		Honey, I Blew up the Baby
>>Esprit		Pretty Woman
>>
>>There was also another moving (Action/Mystery) that had a chase scene in an  
>>Esprit in it...I can't remember the name though (several years ago).
>
>There was the film "If Looks Could Kill", where Richard Greco plays a student
>on a field trip in France who is mistaken for a spy and is given all the 
>standard spy stuff, including a Lotus Esprit.

most definately a kick A movie!!! i have rented it and watched it 4 times
(after my initial "say WHAT???!" when my GF bought tickets to the movie)
just to see how many nifty cars i could spot! of course, i don't write them
down, but what i can think of right now is: lotus esprit(my #1 car!!), Nissan
300ZX Biturbo(my #2 modern car), porsche of undeterminal(to me eyes) 
designation, but definatley of the 911 family, looked like a 930turbo to me..
mercedes limo(eech..but if i didn't feel like driving...:-), nice saab(9000
turbo? 900 turbo? something like that), and a couple i think i am forgetting..
(of course, three of the above are shot in an extended chase scene!!!!!!!)
hmm..Do i recall a land rover, too? not sure..
ok, enough babbling!

BOTTOM LINE:

DEFINATE MUST SEE, JUST FOR THE CHASE SCENES AND THE LOTUS, IF NO OTHER REASON!

best of luck!
DREW
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From: rjwade@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J. Wade)
Subject: Re: HELP!!VOLVO TURBO NEEDED
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:47:25 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.202656.4366@osf.org> kenny@osf.org (Kenneth Crudup) writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.150240.27338@tin.monsanto.com>
>wchutt@alex.monsanto.com (Bill C Hutton) writes:
>
>>Does anyone know a source for a replacement turbo for a Volvo 740?
>>I would prefer a rebuilt turbo with a warranty.


how about one of xlers new lh sedans?  oh...just the turbo...well ok...