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From: ctrbdo@iapa.uucp%mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu (bryan d oakley)
Subject: Performa version of system 7
Organization: FAA / Mike Monroney Aeronautical Center
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:37:46 GMT

I've read several places (net, magazines, etc.) that claim the system
7 shipped with the performa is 'watered down', 'crippled',
'brain-dead', or otherwise less than that delivered with other
systems.  Is this true, or are people just showing their prejudices
and ignorance (and envy?).  It all seems to work just fine.

I have a performa 600CD.  When I am at work (on my Sun), reading the
news or a trade publication, I get bummed about the "crippled"
performa line, the "ugly" performa line, the "soon-to-be-obsolete"
performa line, the "still-more-expensive-than-a-peecee" performa line,
the "can't-find-software-locally" performa line, etc. ad.  naseum.  I
really feel either jerked around or stupid depending on the weather.
Then....

I get home and work on the performa and, shazaam, I couldn't be
happier.  Adequate memory (5 meg), a nice size disk (160 meg), the
great built in CD ROM, plenty of room for expansion, a good, sturdy,
long lasting metal case, and (IMHO) good looks to boot.  And the grand
total of time spent configuring the system, printer, modem, software,
etc.  is probably, oh, 15 minutes (counting the time to read the quick
references).

So what if not one more Performa 600 rolls off the assembly line a
month from now? So what if other Mac users think it's crippled -- I've
got mine and it'll keep me happy for a long time.  And when technology
marches by, I'll just by an accelerator and keep on goin'.

I think one of us is schizophrenic :-\

As an afterthought, Didja ever notice how stoopid (sic) peecee sales
people are?  All buzzwords and goofy smiles.  Ever notice that Apple
sales people are even STOOPIDER?  Geez.  Every sales person I ever
talked to about the mac didn't even know the right buzzwords, much
less anything about the machines.  *sigh*

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: michaelg@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Michael Greenwald)
Subject: Re: Mounts second time only...
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:41:14 GMT

Ken_Bell@mindlink.bc.ca (Ken Bell) writes:

>When you fire up the external hard drive, it takes some time before it can be
>registered on the SCSI bus. In the meantime, you internal hard drive has done
>its thing and has failed to recognize the external.  On the re-boot, you've
>now allowed enough time to go by for the external to send out it's "I'm here"
>message, so you see the drive.
>As for solutions, definitely the best fix is the program SCSI-Probe which can
>be set up to go out to the SCSI bus during the boot and to locate - and mount
>- any SCSI devices it finds.

I guess I wasn't clear.  I'm aware of all this.  When I said I start
up the external drive and wait "a while" before booting the IIsi, I
meant a >>long<< while, sometimes around twenty minutes!  The behavior
is the same: the IIsi doesn't find the SCSI device while booting (the
drive is almost certainly spun up) but immediately after booting, SCSI
probe (or restarting, or GCC Disk Manager) finds the drive and can
mount it.

No matter who quickly I boot the IIsi after turning on the external
drive, it >will< mount the second time.  No matter how long I wait
after turning on the external drive before booting the IIsi, there is
a reasonable chance of the IIsi >not< mounting the drive during the
first boot.

The fix I'm using >is< the SCSI probe init: not because the drive
hasn't spun up when I first boot, but because SCSI probe causes a
>second< try at mounting, which always succeeds.

But my worry is that this behavior is the symptom of something else
that is wrong.  So I ask, does anyone know why this is happening, and
anything I can do to remedy the situation?
From: Treble@asc.slb.com (John Treble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Dieing Mac?????
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Date: 22 Jan 1993 14:31:55 GMT
Organization: ASC-Austin
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: asc438.asc.slb.com

In article <1993Jan22.032250.15913@penny.cs.fredonia.edu>,
rich9256@mary.cs.fredonia.edu (Devin   Richards) wrote:

> My question is that sometimes when I start up my Mac Plus I get a 
> "frowing" Mac and it gives the number 0200FF or 020044.
> It will not boot up or do anything until I "play" around with it.
> Any ideas whats wrong?

The 0200FF indicate a RAM test failed.  It's actually the bus test, and the
last two digits indicate which chips are to blame.  I suggest you open your
Mac and reseat ALL of the memory SIMMs.  If this doesn't fix it, then
you'll need to replace the faulty SIMM.

treble@asc.slb.com "My humble, but accurate, opinion does not necessarily
reflect that of my employer. I get full credit for my insightful and witty
comments!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: revatt@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (robert.s.evatt)
Subject: Mac II Freezes with Sounds HELP?!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 05:08:44 GMT
Keywords: macintosh sound crash freeze

THE SYMPTOMS
Since I upgraded to System 7.0 with Tune-Up 1.1.1, my Mac II freezes
randomly apparently when two or more sounds occur too closely
together.  I can almost always make the system freeze by opening the
sound control panel and clicking rapidly for a while on the volume
slider or sound choices.  It can freeze at other times as well.  I have
experienced freezes when I got mail during a MacX session.  The Sun
mailtool rang 2 1/2 times and the system froze.  Some other
applications seem to have problems with sound as well (e.g. After
Dark).  I can bring up the system monitor with the programmer's switch
after the freeze.  I have avoided freezes for a day or two by turning
the volume for the system alert and and other sounds I can control to
zero.  It seems to make no difference whether or not I have extensions
on or off.

I have tried most of the motherhood and apple pie fixes like
reinstalling the system, zapping PRAM, etc. to no avail.  The problem
does not seem to occur with System 6.0.7 with limited testing.  About
the only thing I haven't tried is pulling my Dove Marathon 030 and
trying the original 68020.  I hope that's not it because I don't think
I could stand to go back to a slower machine.

MY CONFIGURATION
Mac II with Dove Marathon 030 card (replacing 68020)
System 7.0 with TuneUp 1.1.1 
	virtual memory--off; 24b addressing
Dove Marathon 030 software 2.4

THE SOLUTION
???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
?Any suggestions for what to try next would be appreciated?


Thanks very much.  Please reply by email and I will report the
resolution if it appears that others could learn from it.



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AT&T Bell Labs                        uucp:  aloft!revatt
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: hue@pro-freedom.cts.com (Scott Hudziak)
Subject: Re: Can you salvage damaged suitcases?
Date: 29 Jan 93  1:41:52 GMT 
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

Hive you tried usign the Font/DA Maver?
                        ....er   Mover
 
scott hudziak

ProLine:  hue@pro-freedom
Internet: hue@pro-freedom.cts.com
UUCP:     crash!pro-freedom!hue
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: eepmatt@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Matthew Friedman)
Subject: damaged suitcase: Is FONT resource cause?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 02:43:36 GMT


Involving those damaged font suitcases: I tried two things, neither of which
worked. First, I tried the Font DA mover v. 4.1. It consistently "unexpectedly
quit." (Apple needs do design a new dialogue box for that-- after three or
four tries it was not so unexpected after all... :)   )

Then, I tried ResEdit. I verified the files, and they checked out okay. So I
copied the resources from the damaged suitcase to a new empty one. When I
tried to open this new suitcase, same deal. Damaged. If I tried to open
anything inside the FONT resource, ResEdit--- you guessed it-- "enexpectedly"
quit. Uncannily predictable, eh?

Then I noticed that all my damaged suitcases had FONT resources, while all the
functioning oned had NFNT resources. What's the difference here? Could that be
the problem. 

Curious,
Matt
From: eggert@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (lars eggert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: What is RadiusMath good for?
Date: 21 Jan 1993 15:14:01 GMT
Organization: TU Darmstadt
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rbhp43.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de

The subject says it all: What is RadiusMath good for?
I installed the latest version but couldn't measure any
speed improvements with Speedometer. (In fact, the performance
decreased slightly.)

Am I missing something?


Confused,
Lars Eggert (eggert@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de)
"Good food, good meat, good god - let's eat!"
(Prayer by Homer Simpson)
From: Don Lee <DL10@cornell.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: How to LOCK Volume Name?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 17:42:15 GMT
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cu-dialup-0112.cit.cornell.edu
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17
X-XXMessage-ID: <A7859CEDEB01EC16@cu-dialup-0112.cit.cornell.edu>
X-XXDate: Fri, 22 Jan 93 12:45:33 GMT

As sort of a reverse spin on the frequently asked question of how
to unlock volume names, I am interested in how to intentionally
lock it without the use of filesharing.  I'd appreciate all ideas
sent to:

Don Lee (DL10@cornell.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: a-kraus@uiuc.edu (Albert L. Kraus)
Subject: 2m vram = faster 16bit display ?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: PES
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:23:01 GMT

I have 1m vram and Iwould like to know if my diplay faster in 16 bit mode
if I upgrade to 2meg vram ?

Thanks!
Have a nice day!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: proesmsf@esat.kuleuven.ac.be
Subject: (Q) Sys7.1 on LC ?
Organization: K.U.LEUVEN, Belgium
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:20:48 GMT

hi,

Any problems running System 7.1 on a LC( not II,neither III) ?
Found out that the system enablers aren't explicitly written
for the LC model- stumbled on that in some recent digest - ? 
Should i take the enabler 001 ...

Thanks in advance

frank ( proesmsf@esat.kuleuven.ac.be)

Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.system:16666 comp.sys.mac.comm:13474
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: uucp on A/UX
From: scasterg@waltham.columbus.oh.us
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 05:28:50 -0500
X-Mailer: rnMac Buggy, I mean Beta, Test Version

I know this should probably go to comp.unix.aux, but I don't get that group 
here, so I hope nobody minds....

I remember hearing that in early versions of A/UX there were problems with uucp. 
Is this true of 3.0 or have the problems been fixed?

Thanks for any info,

Stu Castergine
scasterg@waltham.columbus.oh.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: lsr@taligent.com (Larry Rosenstein)
Subject: Re: Interface disimprovement: A simple no would suffice
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Taligent, Inc.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:11:36 GMT

In article <antjcb.728134553@gsusgi1.gsu.edu>, antjcb@gsusgi2.gsu.edu
(J.C.Burns) wrote:
> 
> I didn't realize there was this epidemic of baffled people when a
> dialog with "Yes" and "No" came up. But hey, it's not that I object

The point is that Yes and No can be answers to a lot of different
questions.  If you're in a hurry, it's easy to answer the wrong question
and lose work.

> to the terms "Save" and "Don't Save"--I object to the haphazard way
> it gets implemented by developers--because, I contend, Apple didn't

I think Apple published a Human Interface Note about this.  I know there
was a lot of detail there, but perhaps it didn't emphasize the exact
spelling enough.

> For a company that makes this big a deal about interface consistency,

There's 2 issues.  First, Apple did change their recommendataion, which is
why some programs use Yes/No and others use Save/Don't Save.  That's a
trade off they made between improving the interface and sticking with the
old standard.

But to a user it doesn't much matter what kind of quote is used for an
apostrophe.  You're complaint is because QuicKeys isn't smart enough to
recognize that they are the same.

Larry Rosenstein
Taligent, Inc.

lsr@taligent.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: wondertr@fraser.sfu.ca (wondertree learning center)
Subject: Re: A program like Applicaon that also hides programs?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:42:52 GMT

Applicon does hind windows when you switch between applications...

all you have to do is hold down the option key when you select theo 
other application's icon.... and presto.... the current application
disappears.... its magic....

TED

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jhh7@midway.uchicago.edu (Jing He)
Subject: World Script
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: university of chicago
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:46:08 GMT

I am looking for a copy of World Script of system 7.1. Does anyone know
where I might find it? Any help would be much appreciated.
From: rich9256@mary.cs.fredonia.edu (Devin   Richards)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Dieing Mac?????
Date: 22 Jan 93 03:22:50 GMT
Organization: Math / CS, State Univ. of N. Y. College at Fredonia
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3




My question is that sometimes when I start up my Mac Plus I get a 
"frowing" Mac and it gives the number 0200FF or 020044.
It will not boot up or do anything until I "play" around with it.
Any ideas whats wrong?

Thanks in advance.
(please respond via e-mail   :) )


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   It rolls down stairs alone or in pairs it runs over your neighbor's dog.
   It fits on your back it's great for a snack it's Log Log Log. 
   It's Log Log it's big it's heavy it's wood.
   It's Log Log it's better then bad it good!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: hue@pro-freedom.cts.com (Scott Hudziak)
Subject: Tiger software bundle (good deal?)
Date: 27 Jan 93  0:21:59 GMT 
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

I just got this bundle offer a few days ago from Tiger Software. It comes
with EKG. This thing supposedly is a semi-diagnositc app that does
benchmark testing and looks at your extensions. There's the second one that
looks trhough your system and supposedly finds incomapatbilities and
misplced files and conflicts. The last one is a collection of sys 7
extensions which are really of no use to me because Speedy Finder 7 meets
all and more than what this thing offers. So does anybody know if it's
worth it? I allready have norton Utilites, and I really doubt this Help
thing is gonna make any differnce. The biggest problem I have with my mac
is conflicting extensions that cause me to bomb about three times a day.
Thanks for any comments. 
 
scott hudziak

ProLine:  hue@pro-freedom
Internet: hue@pro-freedom.cts.com
UUCP:     crash!pro-freedom!hue
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: djk@world.std.com (Dan J Keldsen)
Subject: offline USENET newsreader
Summary: Looking for an offline news reader for the mac
Keywords: mac usenet news offline
Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:04:19 GMT

Hi folks,

My newest internet/usenet connection doesn't have "nn" and I refuse to have to deal with "rn." I've been looking for newsreaders for the mac, but they all require a TCP/IP or SLIP connection. Can anybody help me out with an offline reader?

I found Eudora (an e-mail program for the mac, and a hack for getting it's requirement to be directly connected to the net), but can'tfind a similar thang for news reading.

Also, if this isn't the right group to be posting about this question, please point me in the right direction.

--
dan keldsen
djk@ccwf.cc.utexas.edutt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jeffries@iastate.edu (Anthony G Jeffries)
Subject: Re: SuperClock 4.0.1 oddities.
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:50:22 GMT

In <iscjcw-220193104805@ajax.ucop.edu> iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu (Jerry Wilcox) writes:

>In article <C19DJ6.DH7@newcastle.ac.uk>, A.G.Poole@newcastle.ac.uk (Alex
>Poole) wrote:
>> 
>> On a Mac Plus 4MB, 52MB external drive...
>> SC crashes on startUp (Unimplemented trap)
>If I recall correctly, there was some mention earlier of a bug in SC 4.0.1
>that wouldn't allow it to be run on 68000 machines, like the Plus.

I recently tried to install SuperClock 4.0.2 on my 1 meg, 6.0.8 Mac Plus, 
but it too crashed on startup (all it gave me were, depending on the system
extensions installed, a system error or a memory manager error.  

If anyone can help others and myself on this one, I'd really appreciate it.  

-- 
Anthony Glen Jeffries N0NRO  ><>   Amazing Grace, How Sweet The Sound!   ><>
Journalism and Mass Communication student  Iowa State University  Ames, IA
"For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to 
save the world through Him." John 3:17 (NIV)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jonesbr@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Brian R. Jones)
Subject: My Alias is rebelling!!
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 17:36:46 GMT

	I have an alias for MacWrite II in my Apple Menu Items folder and
recently it started to act funny.  Originally, it simply refused to open
MacWrite II, now it not only refuses to open the application, it will run
the "Get Info" command on any item that happens to be highlighted!  What
is happening?  I am constantly trying new inits and control panels, but
this problem doesn't correspond to any new installations.  (The two most
recent were SuperClcock 4.0.1 and Deskpict 1.1)  The funny thing is, by
brother just described the same thing occuring on his IIsi 5/80 with the
Control Panels alias and I know he isn't running these two inits.  We are
both running system 7.1.  I have an LC 4/40.  Has anyone had this happen?
I haven't tried reinstalling the system software but rebuilding the desk-
top has no effect.  Any information on what my be causing this would be
very appreciated!!  Thanks.

-Brian
From: craig@hyperion.loni.ucla.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: QT Info wanted
Keywords: quicktime summary
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:51:37 GMT
Distribution: usa


	Can someone point me towards a description of Quicktime:
	I am particularly interested in compression rates (e.g. 
	how much disk space is used per second of video) and 
	cross-platform compatibility 
		(can I use S.G.I. QuickTime movies on a Mac, Windows..)
	
	Thanks,
		Craig Schwartz
		craig@hyperion.loni.ucla.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: eepmatt@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Matthew Friedman)
Subject: Purgeable bit in fonts and 7.1
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:33:34 GMT


I heard someone mention on this group once that there was a problem in
something that 7.1 installer did or did not do to the purgeable bits in fonts,
and that it caused a lot of memory loss or something. Does anyone remember
this? What exactly does it mean? How can it be solved/prevented?

Thanks,
Matt
From: chh9@ellis.uchicago.edu (Conrad Halling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: My Alias is rebelling!!
Date: 23 Jan 93 22:29:23 GMT
Reply-To: chh9@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago

In article <1993Jan23.173646.20085@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> 
  jonesbr@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Brian R. Jones) writes:

>	I have an alias for MacWrite II in my Apple Menu Items folder and
>recently it started to act funny.  Originally, it simply refused to open
>MacWrite II, now it not only refuses to open the application, it will run
>the "Get Info" command on any item that happens to be highlighted!  What
>is happening?

I don't know what is happening, but I can suggest a solution.  Open the
Apple Menu Items folder and throw the MacWrite II alias into the Trash.
Then open the folder containing MacWrite II, click once on the icon, and
choose "Make Alias" from the File menu.  Drag the alias icon into the
Apple Menu Items folder.  The new one should work correctly.


-- 
Conrad Halling
c-halling@uchicago.edu
From: diessel@marthe.informatik.unibw-muenchen.de (Thomas Diessel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Serial LW driver
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Date: 25 Jan 1993 12:47:50 GMT
Organization: Federal Armed Forces University, Munich
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: macthomas.informatik.unibw-muenchen.de

I'm looking for a serial LW driver. I want to connect a LaserWriter to a
Mac
on the Ethernet without using the Apple Internet Router. I already got the
DMM package but I failed modifying the driver. Has somebody a working
serial
driver that he/she can send to me?

Thomas Diessel
Federal Armed Forces University, Munich
Computer Science Department
Werner-Heisenberg-Weg 39, W-8014 Neubiberg, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: Stewart Walker <swalker@mta.ca>
Subject: 6.0.8L on Apple Canada Price List
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A78C480EC4010163@acim.mta.ca>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 27 Jan 93 14: 09:18 GMT
Organization: Mount Allison University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:02:58 GMT

Date: 26 Jan 93 13:16:04 GMT This is an exerpt from the Canadian
Educational price list as of January 6, 1993
  B9100	System 6.0.8L Group Upgrade Kit			39	
  For use only with Classic, Classic II, Mac LC and Mac LC II
  and PowerBook 100.
From: lreiter@jade.tufts.edu (Lowell B. Reiter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: SuperClock4.0.2
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:47:19 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

I've seen v4.0.1 but where can I find v4.0.2?
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From: chh9@ellis.uchicago.edu (Conrad Halling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: StyleWriter II
Date: 23 Jan 93 22:19:13 GMT
Reply-To: chh9@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago

In article <1jn15sINNaks@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> 
  pas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Peter A. Simmelink) writes:

>Does anyone know when the SW II is going to come out?

It's out.  It was first available on Monday the 11th.  I was literally the
first one on my block to get one -- I bought one that Monday at 10:00 a.m.  
(I am the Jones you have to keep up with.)

Get one.  You'll love it.

-- 
Conrad Halling
c-halling@uchicago.edu