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From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Stupid Houston releases Bailey
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:48:17 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <4933@sumax.seattleu.edu> jorgand@sumax.seattleu.edu (Dave Jorgan) writes:
>	5. Ricky Proehl of the Cardinals is another example. Many people
>blasted the Cardinals when they made him a 2nd round pick. They said he
>was too small, slow, etc. to justify such a high selection, and the Cards
>reached when taking him. Yet, he has proved to be a excellent WR, well worth
>a #2 selection. If conventional wisdom had prevailed, perhaps Proehl would

Proehl was taken in the 3rd round, not the second. Anthony Thompson was
the Cards first pick that year, but he was in the 2nd round because they
lost their first pick by taking Rosenbach in the supplemental draft. 
Proehl was their 2nd pick, but int the 3rd round. Who complained when
they picked him? Sporting News had him as one of the sleepers of the draft,
and he was considered a steal.



Russ Smith
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From: robertd@ecs.comm.mot.com (Robert Day)
Subject: Re: Bears stuff...
Organization: control_centers
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:35:46 GMT



In <1992Sep3.085249.746@calmasd.prime.com>, wwr@calmasd.prime.com writes:

>> signed C Jay Lewenburg (out of COlorado,  don't know who cut him).
>He was the starting center at KC for the last God-know how many years.  A very
>good pick up by the Bears.  Gives Thayer some room to breath & if Fontenot
>should get hurt this guy has plenty of playing experience.

I thought Tim Grunhard from Notre Dame was starting for KC.  Was
this only for the 1 or 2 KC games I saw last year?  I also 
thought Lewenburg was a fairly recent graduate of CU.  Does anybody
have the definate info?  (year graduated, etc.)

>	Somebody mentioned on this net about making Zorich a backer.  I'd
>thought this myself & think it would be a *great* move!  What does anyone else
>think?

Zorro was a LB coming out of high school, but Notre Dame turned 
him into a lineman.  I don't remember why - I think that when 
he arrived ND had lots of quick LB's and not enough linemen.  

Rob

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From: scott@ods.com (Scott Harper)
Subject: Re: The beginning of the end of the 49ers
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:41:15 GMT

According to todays _Dallas_Morning_News_ "sources" (neither of the JJs)
said the draft picks were as follows:

Cowboys gave up their #2 pick in 1993 (no conditions)

The "conditional" part is that the 49ers have the option of either

   - *swapping* draft positions with the Cowboys in the 1st and 3rd
     rounds of the 93 draft

   - if swapping is not advantageous, the 49ers can take the Cowboys
     #3 pick in 94

I'd say it sounds like a pretty good deal for Dallas, assuming Haley
isn't injured or something...

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From: gordons@coopsol.com (Gordon Storga)
Subject: Montana asks to be traded (was Re: Joe (Toast?) Montana
Organization: Stay Awake Software
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 18:20:33 GMT


Just heard on the local radio station:  Montana is very upset about being
put on IR for the first 4 weeks.  He has publically suggested that the
9ers trade him to a team where he can play.  That's all I heard so far.


Gordon
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From: tim@ial7.jsc.nasa.gov (Tim Sullivan)
Subject: Re: Rison/Dishman?
Organization: nasa-jsc
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:01:45 GMT

While there has been trade talk, I dont think Houston has taken it 
seriously.  A high draft choice AND an All-Pro CB for Rison, Houston 
wont do it.  Dishman is an impact player, and generates a lot of 
turnovers.  I think a fair trade would be Dishman and a 3rd round pick,
or I think DE William Fuller for Rison straight up would be fair.
From: kday@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Kevin Day)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: NFL Rosters, quick!!!
Date: 26 Aug 92 12:40:16 GMT
Reply-To: kday@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Kevin Day)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD


  I am in immediate need of a list of current NFL rosters. If anyone
has them on-line, I would appreciate it if you would e-mail it to me.
Let me express clearly, I need them now. I'm thinking of getting into
a Fantasy League, but I need to submit my draft list today. Thanks for
your help.

K. Scott Day   (kday@oasys.dt.navy.mil)
Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center
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From: dmercer@oracle.com (David Mercer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: games changing in history, question??
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:16:47 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corp., Belmont CA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <9209021340.AA06380@tiger.tcom.stc.co.uk.cwm01> coombes@tiger.tcom.stc.co.uk (Philip Coombes) writes:
>What with hurricane Andrew visiting upon the Fins, and causing
>the Patriots game to be rescheduled, I was wondering when this had
>happened before. In recent years I can only think of the 9ers game
>a year or two before, when the Pats visited San Francisco and 
>because of Earthquake Norman (or whatever) the venue was changed 
>to Stanford. Apart from that, I can only think of various Fog, Flood,
>Snow Bowls etc where a venue change may have not been a bad idea.
>
>So apart from the obvious fact that having the Pats visit town
>is a potentially rather hazardous exercise, does any one remember 
>any other game time or venue changes, especially this late in the 
>year???.

I remember that game quite well.  Patriots executed that *awesome*
flea-flicker play to score a TD.  Also, one of the 49er's broke his
neck.  Anyone know what became of him?  Was he paralyzed?  I was
talking about this with someone the other day, and neither of us knew
what ever happened to him.

---David B. Mercer

Prediction: Patriots will win the Superbowl.
From: brian@baja.Corp.Sun.COM (Brian Edge)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Whats up DeLong???
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:14:40 GMT
Reply-To: brian@baja.Corp.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: baja.corp.sun.com

If DeLong waits much longer he should be out of a job.  Who does
he think he is...a Jerry Rice??  

Wasn't last year really the first year he got alot of playing time?
Sounds like it went to his head.  With Eddie D. having to pay the
likes of Montana, Rice, Taylor, Young, and the list is growing..
DeLong may be left out in the cold.

Brian 
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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: Hilgenberg Trade Official
Organization: University of Michigan
	<1992Aug28.224347.9217@meaddata.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 12:50:13 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.224347.9217@meaddata.com> johnm@meaddata.com (John Manley) writes:

   In article <1992Aug28.124255.8813@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com>, mocnik@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com writes:
   |> Hilgenberg Update
   |> -----------------
   |> 
   |> 
   |> 
   |> Any comments from some Bear fans?

   Yeah. You're welcome, Cleveland!

Cleveland!  Hell, who got helped more here, Cleveland or Detroit?

Bill
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From: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Subject: BENNETT SIGNS! YES! YES! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originator: delarocq@c00075-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:22:39 GMT




  ALLRIGHT, BILLS FANS!

  NOW, IT'S TIME TO ROCK AND ROLL INTO THE BOWL
  WITH BENNETT SIGNED, WE'RE NOW RIGHT IN LINE!

  HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  NOW, SIGN MCKELLER, AND THE BILLS ARE IN BUSINESS!!!!!!!!
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Subject: CHRISTIAN OKOYE SIGNS W/ CHIEFS!
Originator: delarocq@c00090-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
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Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 21:56:33 GMT




 On Sunday, Christian Okoye signed with the Chiefs for an undisclosed amount.
 This leaves Stephone Paige still unsigned.


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From: GC.JAB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tony Bechtold)
Subject: Re: Bucs coach
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:30:27 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.205105.9239@wl.com>,
wyborsr@wl.com (Russ Wyborski) writes:
>
>Does anyone know who the new coach of Tampa Bay is? Not that it will make
>a whole lot of difference.
>

Yeah, Sam Wyche (sp?)  And I actually do think it will make a
difference.

                                                Tony
                                             GO 49ERS!!!
From: kk18@prism.gatech.EDU (Kelly Kenion)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Glanville/Falcons image ?
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:01:45 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In <1992Aug26.144523.25847@das.harvard.edu> vreddy@das.harvard.edu (Venkatesh Reddy) writes:
>PS: Perhaps YOU can tell me... what happened to Bartkowski? Where is he now?
>DO they ever mention his name down there? Thanks...

He has an outdoors (FISHING!) show on (I think) SportSouth.                





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From: larry@aecom.yu.edu (Larry Simmons)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Browns News (Giants)
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:43:36 GMT
Organization: Albert Einstein College of Medicine

In article <1992Aug24.110146.8769@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> Don writes:
>Browns News - August 24th
>--------------------------
>3. The following players have been listed as day-to-day with varying degrees
>   of injuries: (they all practiced Thursday Aug-20)
>	- Mark Bavaro (TE), knee
>                ... He
>					needs to ice down his knee after any
>					practice and game.

Which is exactly why the Giants released him. Bavaro has the same degenerative
disease in his knee that Bo has in his hip.  Mark required the same type of
surgery. I wish him well, but I hope he doesn't ruin the rest of his life
(walking) just to play an extra year or so.

IMO, the Giants did the right thing. Same thing with Jim Burt, and Andy Headon.

>55	Anthony Moss	   OLB		Anthony played in the Giants game,
>					but I don't know anything about him.

Also an exGiant player picked up by Belichick from Plan B.  Moss was a 5th
round draft pick in 1991 and played on special teams. He didn't work out as
well as the Giants 6th round pick that year - Corey Miller.

>That's all for now. I'll post more later.

Good, and give us some details next time, will ya? :-)
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From: cooperr@a.cs.okstate.edu (COOPER ROBERT BRYA)
Subject: Re: Dallas *iced Notes*
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 19:17:31 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.134415.4184@bnr.ca> emilio@crchh444.BNR.CA (Emilio Rivera) writes:
>In article <1992Aug26.001310.11281@aero.org>, mas@aero.org (Marcus
>A.Shaw) writes:
>|>Lots of Dallas news to go over, so let's get on with it!
>|>
>|>1) First and foremost, Carlos Huerta was released in San Diego today, and I 
>|>can imagine where his first stop might be!  I am excited about this 
>|>possibility, I enjoyed seeing him kick in Miami and win games for them.  
>|>He may not have Daluiso's cannon, but he has kicked under heavy pressure 
>|>and is ready for the NFL.  Another possibility is Ian Howfield (formerly 
>|>with the Oilers et al.) but he is far from a proven quantity.
>
>   Listened to Jerry Jones on the morning Talk Show with Norm.  Jerry
>   said that with Lin Elliot on the roster they would not pursue Carlos Huerta.
>   Jerry thinks that Elliot is better than Huerta at this time.
>
>|>
>|>2) As far as the kickers that the Cowboys already have, I thought it 
>|>interesting that Daluiso kicked extra points and kicked off, and that Elliot 
>|>got a try at FGs.  JJ looked very supportive of Elliot after he missed
>his 43 
>|>yarder, but not supportive AND enthusiastic.|
>
>    The news media in Dallas is speculating that perhaps both Daluiso
>    and Elliot will be replaced by a better kicker picked up from the waiver
>    line.   The name of Blanchard was mentioned.
>
>
 Jeez, I hope Blanchard isn't stupid enuff to go back to the team that
screwed the beginnings of his kicking career in the first place.
He is obviously a quality kicker as he has demonstrated with the
Saints, he was never even given a chance to compete for the job on 
his first trip thru Dallas.  Dallas cut him after all the other
teams had their kicking roster worked out, giving Blanchard a one
way ticket to the WAFL where he proved he was a better kicker
than the WAFL deserved.
 He is hot property in a year when good kickers are either scarce or 
holding out.  So why go back to a team that has already mistreated him,
when he may have better choices?
 
Bryan Cooper, cooperr@a.cs.okstate.edu
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:05:35 -0400 
From: "Joseph E. Beck" <jb8n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Top 5 Defenses?
	<1992Aug26.185352.22049@henson.cc.wwu.edu>

>>I'm curious about peoples view on the best DEEE's this year.
>>
>>I'd say:
>>1. Houston
>>2. Denver
>>3. Chicago
>>4. Washington
>>5. New Orleans

2 questions: 
What are Houston and Denver doing 1st and 2nd?
Where's Philadelphia?
From: rc@hal.COM (Rolland Crunk)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Keith McKeller
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:16:05 GMT
Distribution: na
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Does anyone know the status of Bill's tight end Keith McKeller?
Has he signed yet?

rc
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From: rlopez@loanstar.tamu.edu (Robert Lopez)
Subject: Re: News on...
Organization: Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 23:37:55 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.223944.10456@uwm.edu>, paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes:
|>    Is Fuad Reveiz still kicking in Minnesota?

yes.

|>    Who will be starting in
|>    Dallas at REC? Will Kelvin Martin start?
|> 

Martin and Harper.  Until Irvin signs.  Wright will be in on third
receiver situations.  Until Jim(m)y Smith's leg is healed.

Novacek is back, so he's a receiving threat too. 

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From: dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: NFC Central Prediction
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:45:39 GMT
Organization: Bradley University

martens@python.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens) writes:

>calliesl@columbia.dsu.edu (Lonnie Callies) writes:
>
>>              5.  Buccaneers...they suck
>
>A lot of people seem to like the Bucs; I don't yet understand why.
>They've shown nothing offensively, and their defense is about average
>for the division, above average for the league (Yeah, I think the NFC
>central is above avg. defensively, but there are no top offenses in
>the division).

I think the first few weeks will bear out quickly enough whether or not the
offense has improved.  They still make a lot of mistakes, but they looked
good against the Falcons a couple weeks back, and the score against the
Browns is deceiving when you consider that they ran all over Cleveland in
nearly every offensive stat except scoring.  (Testeverde completed 60
percent of his passes and threw for over 200 yards.) Fumbles and penalties 
can undo a lot.  Of course, like spring-training baseball, I don't put 
much stock in the NFL preseason.

My own NFC Central prediction:

1. Detroit
2. Chicago
3. Tampa Bay
4. Minnesota
5. Green Bay
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From: bieber@felix.filenet.com (Douglas Bieber)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Tampa Bay: status of Ron Hall??
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:08:00 GMT
Reply-To: bieber@fritz.filenet.com (Douglas Bieber)
Distribution: usa
Organization: FileNet Corp., Costa Mesa, CA

What is the status of Ron Hall?  I had heard that
he was injured?  If he is injured, what is his
expected return?  thanks.

Doug
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From: cbarthol@ssf-sys.DHL.COM (Cris Bartholomew)
Subject: Re: NFC EAST- GET OFF IT!
Reply-To: cbarthol@bart.ssf-sys.DHL.COM (Cris Bartholomew)
Organization: DHL
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:31:49 GMT
Keywords: Satellite

In article <1992Aug25.061847.5761@ncsu.edu>, delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu
(DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> 
|>   What is the fascination with the NFC east?
|> 
|>   OK, so they've won two or three Super Bowls during 1980-1992, but I
|>   have the following to say:
     Try 6 Super Bowl appearences  (HALF) with 5 victories.
     If that is not enough proof then you are a confused person.
     And how about the fact that the NFC East will send three teams to the
     playoffs this year!!!
|> 
|>   1. New Orleans has an NFC East type defense, but they are "irrelevant"?
      How many playoff victories do they have?
|> 
|>   2. The 49ers have won four Super Bowls, but they are "irrelevent"?
     What have you done for me lately?
|> 
|>   3. Buffalo only lost to the Giants (who beat the 49ers) by one point,
|>      but they are "irrelevant"?
     Buffalo is just the most recent version of the Denver Broncos (Can't
     win the big game!)
|> 
|>   4. Kansas City is fast becoming an awesome power in the AFC, but they are
|>      "irrelevant"?
     I guess Len Dawson is pretty good! What decade are you in?
|> 
|>   5. Detroit reached the NFC Championship (unlike Dallas), but are
"irrelevant"?
|> 
     and they were CRUSHED by Skins (NFC East)
|>    
|>   It's time that all those who go for teams outside the NFC East to finally
|>   stand up and defend their team. I happen to like Philadelphia not because
|>   they are in the NFC East, but because I admire their CLASS. CAPICHE?
|> 
|>   To me, a certain football team is my favorite because:
|> 
|>      1. They have class.
|>      2. They are not overblown by the media to epic proportions.
|>      3. The fans that follow the team are not so obnoxious that you get sick
|>         of hearing the name!
|>      4. The team is not one that has a huge bandwagon filled with
"wagoneers"!
|> 
|>    
|> 
      GO SKINS!!!!

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From: melissa@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Melissa C Merrill)
Subject: Re: Moran signs
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:27:52 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.162259.27764@uwm.edu> paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes:
>   Man, what's up with Minnesota??!! I thought the Pack's first game, at home
>   against the Vikes, would be a very possible win. Now I just don't know.
>   Hopefully, they're using up all their points now and will be the same can't-
>   score-inside-the-20-and-end-up-kicking-a-few-FGs-every-game Vikings that
>   us Packer fans know and love. ;)

	No way! We got rid of can't-score-inside-the-20 Walker. Now when we
	get inside the 20, we'll give it to Allen or Craig, and they;ll punch
	it in. I hoping for a thrashing by the Vikes, but know that the Pack
	usally play Minnesota very well whenever. Great story on Minn on ESPN
	last night. Told about the new team concept, and alot of the new
	players and veterans are getting excited about the new season and
	the new start. Hopefully, this preseason is a preview of things to 
	come. :)

							Mark Gresbach
							GO VIKINGS!
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