HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: G.M.Suddes@newcastle.ac.uk (Gareth Suddes)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: HAL becoming HOLLY
Date: 18 Nov 92 12:59:23 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

richard@gecko.ee.byu.edu (Richard Christensen) writes:

>When did HAL become HOLLY?  I remember that they met each other
>when the parallel universes met, but the transfer has
>let me baffled.

 I think you've got your wires crossed. HAL is the computer from 2001/2010
(Arthur C. Clarke) Holly has been and always will be Holly. True he had a
head/sex swap to take the form of Hilly, the computer from the Red Dwarf in the
female oriented Parallel Universe but that's another story. See the FAQL for
more detailed info, or the beginning of the third season Backwards story.

  BTW Can you imagine what impact HAL 9000 would have made with the dulcet
tones of Norman Lovett!!???!!!   :-)

  Picture it...
  2010: Dr Chandra arrives on the Discovery after 9 years and re-meets HAL...

HAL 9000:    "Good morning Dr. Chandra."

Dr. Chandra: "Hello HAL, how are you?"

HAL 9000:    "Well I think I've gone a bit peculiar to tell you the truth."

   :-)  :-)  :-)

Gareth
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From: ins769v@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Veltyen)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Kryten
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:29:53 GMT
Organization: Monash University
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mckenna_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz wrote:
: Small querie really! As Kryten(?) is an Android. He is programmed to obey humans above all else. How is it then that he is also required to obey Rimmer? 
: Rimmer being just a Hologram, why then does Kryten not tell him to shove off!

If I remember right(small chance that) Kryten has to obey Rimmer as an 
ex-human but only if the commands don't conflict with a humans (say.. Lister)

-Veltyen
From: cs_d604@ceres (David Scutt)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Video's - Which Series?
Date: 16 Nov 1992 15:44:15 GMT
Organization: Kingston University
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chore@neumann.une.edu.au (Prince Of Darkness) writes:
: 
: I've seen the videos in Australia, but they only seem to be for
: series 3, can somebody tell me which other series are available, 
: not only here in Oz, but anywhere, and if possible when the other
: series' are coming out on video..
: 
: Thanks
: -Chris
	
	Over in the U.K we have got Series 2,3, and 4, with Series 1 on the
way (hurry up, I want series 1)
From: hilp@hfglobe.intel.com (Robin Rosenbaum)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Orders on Red Dwarf (was Re : Kryten)
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:43:19 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation

In article <11031@baird.cs.strath.ac.uk> jd@cs.strath.ac.uk (John W. Daly) writes:
>[Kryten]...tells the pleasure GELF that
>he`ll always be thinking of her and although it breaks his heart
>to see her go she must, aka Gone With The Wind, Red Dwarf style.

Casablanca.  Wasn't the whole episode a Casablanca takeoff?

>He then proceeds to tell Rimmer he is a total smeg head, the reason
>for which escapes me just now ( probably for being Rimmer :-).

Rimmer down-put Kryten's parting scene with Camille.

The "beginning of a beautiful friendship" was also a Bogart quote, I think.

Now I'll have to go watch Casablanca again...

Robin Hilp
What?? *Who* borrowed my RD tapes? GRRR...*Gotta* have my RD (da-*dum*)
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Opinions, beliefs, and attitudes expressed herein are mine, and some might
even be mistaken.
From: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Orders on Red Dwarf (was Re : Kryten)
Date: 20 Nov 1992 22:16:21 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
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In a previous article, hilp@hfglobe.intel.com (Robin Rosenbaum) says:


[original text deleted to save bandwidth]

>
>Casablanca.  Wasn't the whole episode a Casablanca takeoff?
>
>
>Rimmer down-put Kryten's parting scene with Camille.
>
>The "beginning of a beautiful friendship" was also a Bogart quote, I think.
>
>Now I'll have to go watch Casablanca again...
>

It definately IS a Bogart quote. In fact, it's the last line from
the movie "Casablanca" (as it's also the last line from "Camille").
Alot of the lines in Camille were borrowed in some form from
"Casabalnca" i.e.

Kryten's line to Camille; "We'll always have Parrot's"
Bogart's line to Bergman; "We'll always have Paris"

I think that the exact last line from Casablanca is;
"Louie, this looks like the beginning of a beautiful friendship"

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From: cs_d604@ceres (David Scutt)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Rimmer & Polymorph (was Re: Kryten)
Date: 23 Nov 1992 16:57:26 GMT
Organization: Kingston University
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Steve.Lake@brunel.ac.uk (Steve M Lake) writes:
: As much as I hate to say it, the PolyMorph COULD zapp rimmer, because it's a 
: polymorph. This means that it has complete comtrol over it's physical state, and could therefore morph into a hologramatic polymorph creature. (Probably)
: 
: 
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	Also, Rimmer does have a physical presence (see MeltDown).  The Poly.
could have attacked Rimmer's Light Bee.....
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From: D.G.Legros@bradford.ac.uk (DG LEGROS)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Holly - Who is he/she???
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:06:50 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
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David Scutt (cs_d604@ceres) wrote:
: 
: 	Can anybody _please_ explain why Holly was a middle-aged balding man
: in Series 1 and Two, and then suddenly had a sex change in Series 3???
: 
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: \-----------------------------------------------/
: 	"If you don't care where you are, you ain't lost...."

Read the scroller at the start of series 3 (you'll need a good VCR)

Dommy the Mouse
From: ensalada@cats.ucsc.edu (Kevin Charles Rubio)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Kryten
Date: 19 Nov 1992 10:16:24 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
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NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


In article <1eclu2INNg0g@golem.wcc.govt.nz> mckenna_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>Small querie really! As Kryten(?) is an Android. He is programmed to obey humans above all else. How is it then that he is also required to obey Rimmer? 
>Rimmer being just a Hologram, why then does Kryten not tell him to shove off!


In `White Hole', Kryten says to Rimmer when casting his vote as to whether
to go with Lister's idea to have Lister do the planet-potting or to go with
Rimmer's idea to let Holly do it, "I'm afraid I have to side with the human.
It's in my programming -- a living human outranks a hologram."

(Note: Do not put this quote into a quote list.  This is purely from
       memory, so the wording is not to be trusted.)

But when there is no question of whether to obey Rimmer or Lister, Kryten
does obey Rimmer at all times, as described by this line from `Meltdown':
"I'm programmed to obey, no matter how psychotic the human order."

(Don't use that, either.)

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From: D.G.Legros@bradford.ac.uk (DG LEGROS)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: HOLOGRAM QUERY
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:48:58 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 92356597@ccw201
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Another reason the rest of the crew can't be brought back
is that Rimmer has hidden the discs, and would appear to
have copied his own disc over any that can be found, and
he won't tell Lister where the real discs are.

Dommy the Mouse

D.G.Legros@bradford.ac.uk
From: G.M.Suddes@newcastle.ac.uk (Gareth Suddes)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: More Hologrammatic inconsistency
Date: 23 Nov 92 09:46:16 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

axg708@cscgpo.anu.edu.au (Ashraf Ghebranious) writes:

>Ummm Isn't Kryton part human?
                ^
 No, KrytEn is not part human, although his Back to Reality counterpart was. ie
Jake Bullett, (Cybernautic's Division) or... ("That's traffic control!!!!")

 Gareth



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Subject: MOD files
From: parnell_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 16 Nov 1992 03:36:25 GMT
Reply-To: parnell_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
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	Well this is the first time i'v posted so lets hope it works

	 any-one out there have any MOD files of RD?
for those who don't know MOD files are music files that started out
on the amiga, as the music on games....

Also, any word on series 6?

Paul

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From: andrewc@spider.co.uk (Andrew Cannon)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: "Lise Yates", Suzanne Rhatigan, Claire Grogan
Keywords: Lise not Lisa
Date: 19 Nov 92 09:22:21 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

In article <1992Nov18.112422.26603@netcom.com> sasse@netcom.com (Ellen Sasse) writes:
>And, just renewing something interesting that someone posted a while
>back, Suzanne Rhatigan who played Kochansky-Camille in "Camille" is
>apparently Craig Charles' girlfriend. Does anyone know if he has
>gone out with Claire Grogan as well? I always thought it strange that
>she left in the middle of an episode. They clearly have a stand-in in
>parts of one of the episodes she's in - I think it was Stasis Leak but I
>haven't had a chance to check recently. One of the scenes I had in mind
>is one where she comes in to a room arm-in-arm with a-future-Lister; it
>is clearly not Grogan's build or hair and they had to put the hat at
>a strange angle to hide her face so it wasn't as obvious she wasn't
>Grogan. Can anyone confirm or deny? Did anyone else notice this?
>

I don't think Craig Charles went out with Claire Grogan (I'd sell my
left testicle for a date with her !)

Apparently they 'forgot' Claire was supposed to appear in that last sceane
because she did'nt have any lines to say.

They got a studio assistant (or something like that) to stand in...hence
the huge hat and the unshown face....

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From: rturnerj@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: is rimmer famous
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 12:02:33 GMT

Is the guy who plays Rimmer someone famous in the UK?  He gets first billing
as if he is someone, even though IMHO Lister is a far more interesting and
prominent character.  Of course Cat is my favourite.

JulieT
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
From: sasse@netcom.com (Ellen Sasse)
Subject: Red Dwarf Season III to be shown in Bay Area
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:31:25 GMT


That censors-programs, veeyjays-yammer-at-you-constantly, always-talk-over-
end-credits-constantly piece o' crap public tv station channel 54 is showing:

Red Dwarf Season III in its entirety (with plenty of channel 54's commercials
in between eps you can be sure) on Sunday Dec. 6. See you there. One warning:
when they showed seasons I and II for their begathon they had really bad
conversions that shifted in and out of focus on a once-every-few-seconds
cycle.

PS: Some video stores sell T-180 tapes which nicely hold a standard
uk series of 6 1/2-hour eps at SP.
From: dme@dstos3.dsto.gov.au (Mark Evans)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: HOLOGRAM QUERY
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:36:04 GMT
Organization: Defence Science and Technology Organisation

I have a question about Rimmer the hologram. In the epsiode "Holoship" in
series five Rimmer decides to join the crew of the Holoship so the Red
Dwarf crew decide to bring back a member of the dead crew as a hologram
to replace Rimmer. 

QUESTIONS
---------

1) If all of the dead Red Dwarf crew are still on the ship why don't
   they bring back more of the crew as holograms ? In Red Dwarf science
   can only one hologram exist at a time ? Is their only ONE light bead 
   therfore only ONE hologram ?

2) I realise that the Red Dwarf series has all of the regular characters
   it needs but it seems a bit mean that all of the dead crew have to
   remain "dead".

3) Why was Rimmer the hologram when it could have been any one of the
   dead crew ?

4) I know that holograms can't touch anything so bringing back an Engine
   Mechanic might seem to be useless but he would certainly be able to 
   tell people what to do.

5) What happens to Rimmer when he has to recharge his light bead ?

6) A hologram is a dead person in hologram format. Is the only possible step
   after death to become a hologram i.e hologram status is the equivalent
   to the so called afterlife ? I take it that once your dead you can come
   back as a hologram at any time in the future ?
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From: brown@dgaust.dg.oz (Fred Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: RED DWARF SERIES 6 ?
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:49:34 GMT
Organization: Data General Australia, Melbourne


Does anyone know how far into production series 6 is ? Have they
finished it ? Has it been released in England ? 
Signed
Fred AAAUUUGGHHH THEY SHOWED THE LAST OF SERIES 5 ON TV LAST NIGHT AND 

NOW THERE'S NO MORE RD Brown.....
From: ajmorrison@happy.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Red Dwarf USA..IS IT ON YET?
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:51:24 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <Bxx1LF.G56@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jasstev@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (stevens jason) writes:
>    
>    As a concerned dwarf Fan, ie how are the Americans going to screw up RD,
>    has the new series finished production/ been transmitted?
>    I heard about htis briefly and I am deeply concerned. After all, since when
>    has there been a decent American comedy since Sledgehammer?
> 
>    Jason.
> 
Well, so far as I know, NBC shot a pilot for it, but it was so horrifically
awful that they shelved the project. Apparently Lister came out as a
well-dressed, non-slobby white guy, Cat came out as a female (I can hear you
choking from across the Atlantic and half of America), and Rimmer instead of
having an H on his forehead has a glowing red dot, which someone I forget who
said made him look like "ghandi in space".  I had heard rumors that they were
going to re-think and try again, but not sure what happened with that...

                    -=Fenchurch, a hoopy frood=-
From: mirsjf@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Craig Charles pops up again !!
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:41:37 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology


	For British viewers........

	has anyone seen Craig Charles on the "Environment" program

	thats on BBC1 about 5:30 on Sundays.....?

	just for all the C.C. fans out there it is some of the straight

	stuff that he has been doing for years now on Aunty Beeb
From: axg708@cscgpo.anu.edu.au (Ashraf Ghebranious)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: re: More Hologrammatic inconsistency
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 06:14:04 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.56.5.23

In article <1ehua4INNn8q@manuel.anu.edu.au> David.Berriman@anu.edu.au writes:
>From: David.Berriman@anu.edu.au
>Subject: re: More Hologrammatic inconsistency
>Date: 20 Nov 1992 05:49:56 GMT
>In article <9232417.3593@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> rns@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Robert Noel STURROCK) writes:
>
>>Why were Rimmer (and to some extent Kryton) affected by the "Despair
>>Squid?"
>
>Yeh!
>
>Was Holly affected by the 'squid' - because she (he?) is the computer, and
>the computer controls the actions of the hologram (ie Rimmer).
>
>Cyalodin
Ummm Isn't Kryton part human?

Since Holly is unstable, it is possible that the despair squid DID work, but 
achieve nothing.

I would have assumed that a hologram program could not be affected by the 
computer running it, otherwise, the Holly would end up running the show. 
Since Rimmer "thinks" he exists, would it not also be possible  for a 
hologram to then "think" it was affected?


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From: esrag@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr W M D Wright)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: I have this rabbit...
Date: 16 Nov 1992 08:53:14 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
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Keywords: Kochansky and Hilly are out.

In article <lg0bnlINNrl3@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> narad@nonsequitur.Eng.Sun.COM writes:
>
>Kristine Kochansky and Hilly have  been rejected by the lady of the house as
>names for this thing.  Any other ideas for a name for a Red Dwarf Rabbit?
>
>

	How about...
		Smeghead
		Dinosaur Breath
		Molecule Mind
		Smeg for Brains
		Polariod Head

Just an idea!

Cheers,

Bill

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From: cs_d604@ceres (David Scutt)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Holly - Who is he/she???
Date: 17 Nov 1992 17:01:33 GMT
Organization: Kingston University
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	Can anybody _please_ explain why Holly was a middle-aged balding man
in Series 1 and Two, and then suddenly had a sex change in Series 3???

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From: zoltar@amigans.gen.nz (Grant Thoms)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Oh dear...
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 22:02:31 GMT+1
Organization: Wanganui Amigans, Wanganui, New Zealand

Well, wev;e just come to the last episode in the current series of red 
Dwarf here in New Zealand. There's been such episodes as `Backwards' and 
`marooned'... truely a gruesome prospect lies ahead while we wait for 
another series..   Hopefully this comedy will last as long as the 
`Soapies' that invade our TV screens here (about 15 years I think the 
grand total is) as I have become (I confess) a `Red Dwarf' Junkie... 
 
Is there any official Red Dwarf Fanclub anywhere in the world?? or even 
on the usenet? Where can I get such stuff as posters etc??
 
Hmm, all these questions are probably answered in the FAQ, but never 
mind, it's a long boring thursday night and I have nothing else to do.. 
:)
 
So whats the verdict with the dude who plays `Rimmer' the hologram on the 
seires, Radio djing??? Has anyone over there in England heard him? I 
heard that he was embarking on doing some Radio work..
and seeing as I am in the same field, it's quit einteresting..

Oh well, I have dribbled on long enough.. time for me to smeg off..
 
peace and Salutations!
 
Grant

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From: D.G.Legros@bradford.ac.uk (DG LEGROS)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: TESTING PLEASE IGNORE
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:43:51 GMT
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Testing sig please ignore
From: cs_d604@ceres (David Scutt)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: MOD files
Date: 17 Nov 1992 10:44:48 GMT
Organization: Kingston University
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parnell_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
: 
: 	Well this is the first time i'v posted so lets hope it works
: 
: 	 any-one out there have any MOD files of RD?
: for those who don't know MOD files are music files that started out
: on the amiga, as the music on games....
: 
: Also, any word on series 6?
: 
: Paul
: 
: 	We gaurantee fast service, No matter how long it takes...
: 		PARNELL_P@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

	Well I got one of the theme music.  It ain't brilliant, but it is
a MOD, and it is Red Dwarf.   E-Mail me if you want a copy, and I'll _try_ to
mail it back (hey, I'm new to this kinda stuff....)

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