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From: narten@cs.albany.edu (Thomas Narten)
Subject: weather and fishing
Originator: narten@percival.albany.edu
Organization: Computer Science Department, SUNY at Albany, Albany, NY 12222
Distribution: rec
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 14:09:36 GMT

Can someone summarize the conventional wisdom regarding best weather
for fishing?  Specifically, I have read reports (usually lacking in
either detail or concrete evidence) that indicate that fishing for
bass and walleye picks up as a front starts to move through an area
and the barometric pressure falls.  In contrast, high pressuse tends
to disfavor good fishing.  Can someone recommend a book that describes
the affects of weather on fishing in a fair amount of detail?
-- 
Thomas Narten
narten@cs.albany.edu
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From: jfc@salmon.sea.macsch.com (Jack Castro)
Subject: Weyerhaeuser - Snoqualmie Tree Farm
Originator: jfc@salmon.sea.macsch.com
Organization: The MacNeal-Schwendler Corp. (MSC) Seattle Technical Office
Distribution: wa
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 03:16:42 GMT


Does anyone know if the Snoqualmie tree farm will be opened on the
weekends soon? I hope to take some day trips to the numerous lakes up there
before fishing season ends. 

Otherwise, has anyone fished Rattlesnake (Northbend), Pine  or
Beaver lakes (Samamish Plateau) lately?

-- 
 
Jack Castro                  E-MAIL: j_castro@macsch.com
(All opinions expressed are my own and not my employers.)
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From: rpark@stam.QE.Bell.CA (Richard Park)
Subject: Ontario Salmon Run Info Update Wanted
Keywords: Salmon
Reply-To: rpark@stam.bell.ca
Organization: CER, Bell Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:39:43 GMT

Has anyone been out to any of the rivers for salmon fishing. Would like to know
how they are running as I plan a trip up to Huron/Georgian Bay rivers soon.

I was at the Beaver River last friday evening and saw a few people fishing. Water
was dirty green. Did not see fish near the mouth or people hooking any so I was
about to leave. I stopped the car near Hwy 26 as I saw people looking down from
the bridge. Could see chinook (fairly dark) swimming around at the top pool. So
I put on my waders and got my rod out. I got into a few but could not hold on.
Saw a Skamania (spelling) hooked and landed. Boy, that fish, when hooked, fought
like no other fish. It cleared the water by 3 feet high and 10 feet across, then
after swimming around the pool a bit, it headed straight down river. 
Talked to the fellow that landed the fish and he said the chinook just started
to come up a week ago.
-- 
Richard Park	
From: glenn@hplred.HP.COM (Ed Glenn)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:54:41 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: kite-fishing
Organization: Hewlett Packard Labs, Palo Alto CA
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing

/ hplred:rec.outdoors.fishing / swood@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Scott Wood - EVENSONG) /  8:20 am  Sep  4, 1992 /
My brother and I have played quite a bit with our kites in the past.
We have done everything from running antennas up the string, or using
a wire string as an antenna for radio operation, to fishing of the string.

What we did, was modified a technique from Poland used in balloon fishing.
The baloon fishing involves filling a small balloon, and connecting it to
your line with a thing rubber band.  Then dangle bait or a lure at whatever
height you feel is necessary.  We also made up special rubber bands connected
to a small washer to allow the string to slip for a small amount of depth
control thought this works much better on the kite than with the balloon.

The balloon would then be used to carry the line out away from the peer
(in the direction of the wind of course)  When a fish hits, either the
rubber band breaks or the balloon bursts, and you real em in.  The balloon
also works as a bobber.

In the case of the kite, we let out enough line, till the kite refused
to take any more vertically, then connect the rubber band (and optionally
the washer that goes around the fishing line - ie you don`t lose your washer)
let the kite string out to where you want to fish, and have fun.  The kite
string will usually react to a hit rather visually, and you can even control
the position of your bait reasonably well down wind.
With the washer on the line (if it doesn't decide to twist up on you - I
highly suggest the use of a swivel) gives you control over the whole system
rather effectively...

swood

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From: peder@tamarack.cray.com (Peder Sterling)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: weather and fishing
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:03:44 GMT
Reply-To: peder@cray.com
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Originator: peder@tamarack


In article <1992Sep10.181020.13860@ll.mit.edu>, roe@ll.mit.edu (Ted Roe) writes:

[excellent book report deleted]...

> My own experience last week in central Maine was poor bass fishing
> during several days of windy, sunny, steady high pressure. A low
> pressure front moved in with some rain one afternoon, and the fishing
> remained poor while it rained. The next morning the low was still
> there with overcast skys, and the fishing was excellent.

I went fishing this past weekend in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area, and
pretty much got skunked on Sunday, which was a cool, bright sunny day, I
believe on the tail end of a cold front that passed through on Saturday.
I went out (to a different lake) early Monday morning, which was overcast
with a few sprinkles, and the Bass were jumping all over the place.

> I expect that there are too many factors (pressure, light,
> temperature, terrain, food supplies, etc.) involved to make any easy
> rules of thumb. My experience tends to make me believe that light is a
> strong factor, i.e., bigger bass during dark or overcast conditions.

I agree - there are too many factors involved to generalize when the best
time is to go fishing. My next door neighbor believes that fishing is at its'
best during low pressure or steady pressure, and that it's probably not the
best during high pressure, during and after cold fronts pass through, and
right after a big thunder storm. I have also heard, in the midwest at least,
that when the wind is from the west the fishing is the best, and when the wind
is from the east, the fish bite the least.

> That doesn't stop me from going out on bright days, as getting out
> on the water with a rod in my hands is more important than bringing
> back a big one :)

I think that is all that matters - I don't really care if I catch any fish,
I'm there just to be with nature. I do hate it though when I lose lures and
don't catch anything :-)

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From: jmc@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (John M. Connors)
Subject: Re: What kind of line to use - pros and cons
Originator: jmc@moose.uvm.edu
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:24:27 GMT

From article <1992Sep10.180809.6973@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM>, by kevin@cadzook.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Kevin.Dailey):
> : (Don't worry...I change my line every spring...I'm not that frugal contrary
> : to my New England yankee upbringing.  :-)   )
> : 
> : JC in VT.
> : 
> 
> 
> 	I wish I could "afford" to only change my line 'every spring'.  This
> 	year has not been as much so, but usually I fish 2-3 times per week
> 	and may have to change line once a week depending on the cover I
> 	am fishing and the abrasions the line has to survive.
> 	Always remember: "The monofilament is the weakest link between you and
> 	your fish - So choose it well".  Someone else said that one time - I
> 	don't remember who who it was but it's good advice.	
> 
> 							Good Fishing!

Your implied advice that an angler should change his monofilament line
frequently (after 3-4 outings) is inarguably sound and prudent.  In my
case, I average about 3-5 angling outings per month when my job and 
studies permit.  If I use high quality fishing line, my experience indicates 
that replacing my line once a year is sufficient.  More often is better 
without question.  I believe I am saving more money now since I started 
fishing from a canoe (instead of from shore) leads to far fewer snags, 
far fewer lost lures, and no fighting for that really prime real estate on 
the popular bridge.  

JC in VT.

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From: kevin@turbo.Columbia.NCR.COM (Kevin Ormerod)
Subject: Re: Sharp teeth
Keywords: leader, sharp teeth
Organization: NCR Corp, E&M-Columbia, Columbia, SC
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 17:45:02 GMT

In article <8SEP199210335569@wccf.mit.edu> buzz@wccf.mit.edu (Sheila Gay Buzzee) writes:
>
>	I am new to the game, and am learning to use lures instead of bobber 
>fishing.  I have gotten the hang of it well enough to have a new problem.  
>This weekend I stumbled onto a lake full of very aggressive, healthy pickeral, 
>and found that the teeth on a 3lb fish will easily cut the 6lb test line I was 
>using.  After the first one did that, I put on a saltwater metal leader.  The 
>frequency of catches went way down.  We had been pulling one in every 3rd cast 
>or so, then we went without one for almost 30 minutes.  We took the leaders 
>off, and boom, the fish started biting again.  Any advice for a novice?  How 
>can I keep from losing the fish (and my favorite Meps) but not use the metal 
>leader, which clearly deterred the fish from biting?  
>
>	How's that for a good problem to have?  
>
>	I decided fishing is pretty darned exciting, after all.  And to think 
>I wasted all that time waiting for the bobber to move, when I could have been 
>fighting these monsters...  Oh well, better late than never.
>
>	Buzz
>
>	PS  Sorry I can't tell exactly where this lake is, but I'm sworn to 
>secrecy and my fishing partner would KILL me and use me for bait.  It is 
>somewhere in eastern Mass, though.  Fish on!


My advise is to try a monofilament leader.  Use a surgeons knot and tie
on about 18" of 15# test line.  A properly tied surgeons knot is very
strong and will pass through guides easily.  You'll probably have to
experiment with leader strength to get a good compromise between lost
fish and added thickness. I've used this method for 'cudda, kings and
other saltwater fish (leader material up to 60 lb. test with 15 lb.
test main line).  I always liked mono instead of steel except in the
case of blues or sharks!

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From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Subject: Re: weather and fishing
Organization: American Math. Society
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:52:11 GMT

Organization: Macquarie University, Australia.
Cc: 

>In article <18g1adINNbdt@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> russell@skid.uk.sun.com (Russell Bentley - Sun UK - Regional Support Engineer - Watchmoo) writes:
>
>   >My experience is that high pressure dampens the fishing too, but is
>   >this due exclusively to pressure or the attendant hot weather ?
>
>   >I have read (in more than one source) that fish tend to go off the feed
>   >if the water temperature gets to 23 degrees C (73 degrees F), and that
>   >seems to make sense as the oxygen content of the water will then be
>   >lowered, making the fish sluggish.
>
>I don't know how big the body of water you fish is, but in general a
>hot high pressure day doesn't warm the water up much.  It takes quite
>a while for water to warm up due to the weather.  So unless you're
>fishing a mighty small pond, air temperature warming up the water in a
>single day wouldn't be a factor.  But fish do seem to bite better in
>the spring and fall, when the water temperature is cooler, so you're
>right about the water temperature affecting their feeding patterns.

For some strange reason here in Australia, particularly the East Coast,
we find that for some reason the high pressure can put the fish off.
Don't ask me why, but it happens down here, and I've heard about it in 
several places about how it can put the fish off.

One other piece of information you might like to pass on to the person in
need is that high wind will also put the fishing off down here as they don't
like the water being stirred up and also very clear water will ruin a good
days fishing where I fish any day.

Happy Fishing.
Rob.

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| Rob McNaught.                     | I'm not crazy, It's just the rest of the |
| s3022832@hardy.ocs.mq.edu.au      | world that is insane.                    |
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From: smmyers@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (Sean M. Myers)
Subject: Re: Fishing Report:  West Virginia
Reply-To: smmyers@PacBell.COM (Sean M. Myers)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:17:21 GMT

In article <Sep15.201540.20856@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU (wayne trzyna) writes:
>In article <1992Sep15.095123.119267@marshall.wvnet.edu> pro016@marshall.wvnet.edu writes:
>>
>>PS How many other states have a YEAR ROUND TROUT SEASON ?  
>Colorado does.
>-Wayne Trzyna
> trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU

California does.
-Sean Myers
 smmyers@pbhyg.PacBell.Com


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From: jessie@IASTATE.EDU (Brent Danielson)
Subject: Re: Fishing Report:  West Virginia
Reply-To: jessie@IASTATE.EDU (Brent Danielson)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 23:04:38 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.221721.10294@pbhyg.PacBell.COM>, smmyers@pbhyg.PacBell.COM
(Sean M. Myers) writes:
> In article <Sep15.201540.20856@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU (wayne trzyna) writes:
> >In article <1992Sep15.095123.119267@marshall.wvnet.edu>
pro016@marshall.wvnet.edu writes:
> >>
> >>PS How many other states have a YEAR ROUND TROUT SEASON ?  
> >Colorado does.
> >-Wayne Trzyna
> > trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU
> 
> California does.
> -Sean Myers
>  smmyers@pbhyg.PacBell.Com
> 
> 


The Great Smokey Mountain National Park in Tennessee and North Carolina does,
although outside the park seasons are almost certainly different - I've never
fished those states outside the park.
Brent Danielson
jessie@iastate.edu
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From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Subject: Re: weather and fishing
Organization: American Math. Society
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:12:36 GMT

In article <18g1adINNbdt@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> russell@skid.uk.sun.com (Russell Bentley - Sun UK - Regional Support Engineer - Watchmoo) writes:

   >My experience is that high pressure dampens the fishing too, but is
   >this due exclusively to pressure or the attendant hot weather ?

   >I have read (in more than one source) that fish tend to go off the feed
   >if the water temperature gets to 23 degrees C (73 degrees F), and that
   >seems to make sense as the oxygen content of the water will then be
   >lowered, making the fish sluggish.

I don't know how big the body of water you fish is, but in general a
hot high pressure day doesn't warm the water up much.  It takes quite
a while for water to warm up due to the weather.  So unless you're
fishing a mighty small pond, air temperature warming up the water in a
single day wouldn't be a factor.  But fish do seem to bite better in
the spring and fall, when the water temperature is cooler, so you're
right about the water temperature affecting their feeding patterns.
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From: heeswyk@sce.carleton.ca (Frank van Heeswyk)
Subject: Re: weather and fishing
Organization: /usr/local/organization
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:12:41 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.192053.7436@draco.macsch.com> jfc@salmon.sea.macsch.com (Jack Castro) writes:
>
>Changing the subject once again, I am personally not very fond of the
>Hallmark fishing calendar. It contains too many pictures of people fishing,
>and not enough pictures of actual fish in the hands or on the line. I recall
>seeing other calendars with many for "fish pictures". I don't recall the
>publisher, but I hope I get one of these this Christmas. I seem to get at
>least one fishing calendar every christmas from friends who think I was a fish
>in a past life, because of my fishing obsession.
>
>-- 
> 
>Jack Castro                  E-MAIL: j_castro@macsch.com
>(All opinions expressed are my own and not my employers.)

I agree.  I've been looking for a calander with pictures of fish (esp. trout)
in their natural habitat and/or on the line for the past few years with no
luck.  I like to see pictures of fish, not other people fishing.

Frank van Heeswyk
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From: rtaylor@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Roger Taylor)
Subject: Re: weather and fishing
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:20:13 GMT

plh@eos.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron) writes:

>In article <Sep11.163336.67788@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, kjun@typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu (Pat Fitzpatrick) writes:
>|> 
>|> Again, this is for warm-blooded fish in freshwater. 

>and I thought that the bass-alope was either a myth or a new type 
>of mellon... 

	I would love to see the fur coat and water repellant barrier
	on a warm blooded fresh water fish from Minnesota.
From: rh2y+@andrew.cmu.edu (Russell E. Hoffman, II)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: weather and fishing
Date: 13 Sep 92 12:32:07 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Well, in my experiences, while fishing for bass in Southcentral PA on lakes,
cool, overcast, and no wind generally produces the best fishing day. I
fish rattle-traps, tube jigs, and worms mostly. You don't stay out for
12 hours if you aren't catching fish all day!
On the other hand, on warm sunny days, in my experience, the fish aren't
biting as much, especially if it is particularly warm. Early morning
seems best on these days, before it's gotten a chance to warm up much.


Cheers,
Russell Hoffman                 |  
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From: RAYSTOUT@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Cshell fishing script.
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:13:54 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A COPY OF YOUR CSHELL. SOUNDS VERY GOOD.

RAY STOUT
UNIVERSITY OF MAINE SYSTEM
107 MAINE AVENUE
BANGOR, MAINE 04401
From: David.T.Greenfield@dartmouth.edu (David T. Greenfield)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: What kind of line to use - pros and cons
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:28:47 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

This thread (no pun intended) has got me wondering what materials were
used for fishing line and fly line before the synthetics came into use?

David
david.t.greenfield@dartmouth.edu
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From: bc@col.hp.com (Bryan Call)
Subject: Gunnison River Info
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:05:43 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

Last month someone asked for info on the Gunnison River in Colorado.  I 
sent him email and promised to send him a trip report after Fleck and I 
completed our trip.  Well, somehow I have mis-filed both his original 
request and my email to him.  I can't remember his name (old age creeping
in).  If you are still out there, give me holler and I'll send you the 
info you requested.  If I recall correctly, the person planned a trip to 
colorado in late September or October.


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From: plh@eos.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron)
Subject: Re: weather and fishing
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:55:18 GMT

In article <Sep11.163336.67788@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, kjun@typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu (Pat Fitzpatrick) writes:
|> 
|> Again, this is for warm-blooded fish in freshwater. 

and I thought that the bass-alope was either a myth or a new type 
of mellon... 


|>And there are certainly
|> too many other factors to go by the pressure rise/fall rule alone. However,
|> in general, fishing is best before a cold front when the skies are cloudy
|> and the pressure is falling, and the fishing is worst after a cold front
|> when the pressure is rising and the skies are clear.

I agree that this is the gospel in fresh water lakes, if you are fishing 
for fish (or mammals?).

			-Pat.



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From: danderso@bambam.es.com (Derek Anderson)
Subject: Re: Fishing Report:  West Virginia
Organization: Design Systems Division, Evans & Sutherland, SLC, UT
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 20:56:20 GMT

In article <Sep15.201540.20856@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU (wayne trzyna) writes:
>In article <1992Sep15.095123.119267@marshall.wvnet.edu> pro016@marshall.wvnet.edu writes:
>>
>>PS How many other states have a YEAR ROUND TROUT SEASON ?  
>                                  
>Colorado does.

So does Utah.

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