From: music@pubff1.triumf.ca (FRED W. BACH)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Check your temper at the door!
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:24:00 GMT
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In article <1993Jan22.171655.11512@pony.Ingres.COM>, mikes@Ingres.COM (Mike Schilling) writes...
#From article <1993Jan21.182034.13912@rayssd.ssd.ray.com>, by m1b@rayssd.ssd.ray.com (Barone):
#> I have been a firm believer in the quote, "Against stupidity, the gods
#> themselves contend in vain."  No amount of railing will change it.
#> 
#> In article <1j95vqINNng8@gap.caltech.edu>, carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J
#> Lydick) writes:
#>> I, for one, consider it an act of kindness to let someone who doesn't know
#>> what
#>> he's doing know that, and an act of cruelty to let him go on believing he
#>> *DOES* know what he's doing when he doesn't.
#>> 
#>> Analogy:  Would you stand back and watch someone step in front of a speeding
#>> car, just because you didn't want to hurt his feelings by pointing out that he
#>> wasn't watching where he was going?
#> 
#> You're analogy is appropriate but think of it as evolution in action.
#> Just as the stupid pedestrian won't try that stunt again, the "stupid"
#> person who fails to learn will probably lose his job and be slinging
#> burgers at a Mickey D's (without Internet access!).  :-)
#Or be promoted to manager, if his political skills greatly exceed his 
#techincal ones.
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#mikes@ingres.com = Mike Schilling, INGRES, An ASK Group Company, Alameda, CA
#Just machines that make big decisions,
#Programmed by fellows with compassion and vision.	-- Donald Fagen, "IGY"

   Some people think that work is defined as the effort one puts out to
 find someone ELSE to do the job or search the library and pass the
 information and accolades on to you.  You're probably right when you say
 he might be promoted to manager, where he *has* to get someone else to do
 the work for him.   "Hey, don't read, don't think; just look cute and
 get someone else to do it for you."  Seems to be a prevalent attitude.
 I mean, look at the TV shows these days --the emphasis is not on physical
 or mental skills, but on how nice you look, how skillfully you can lie,
 (pardon me, I guess that *IS* a mental skill, and maybe even a physical
 skill in how you hold your facial muscles), and how well you can manipulate
 others.  This is where our kids are coming from.

   Of course, this means that it is (ho-hum, another day, another dollar
 and another pain in the neck) our human duty as older more experienced
 people to warn these folks in a manner consistent with their ability to
 get the message....

   Right on, Mike.

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