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From: tcsmith@cdmg-hq.UUCP (Ted Smith)
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes
Subject: California Fault Map     
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 11:08:47 PDT
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From the State of California, Department of Conservation:

August 31, 1992
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

         FIRST QUAKE MAP OF LANDERS/BIG BEAR QUAKE PUBLISHED
         ---------------------------------------------------

Sacramento -- The first and only map which includes recent fault
activity from the Landers/Big Bear eartquake was released today by the
California Department of Conservation.

The map is a vital tool for public and private planners to decide where
and how to develop areas safely.

"The Department of Conservation is committed to improving the safety of
California with the most up-to-date scientific information," said Ed
Heidig, California Director of Conservation.

"We can rebuild a better California with this `roadmap'," Heidig said.
"Californians _can_ live with their state's geology through proper
planning."

In 1987, the Department of Conservation mapped fault rupture zones in
Yucca Valley.  These maps predicted 80 percent of the ruptures created
by the June 28, 1992 earthquakes -- in one case, preventing an
elementary school from being built on the area which ruptured.

"Programs like this not only increase awareness of seismic history of
California, but also remind the public about the need for earthquake
preparedness," said Yucca Valley Assemblyman Paul Woodruff, R-Redlands.

There is unprecedented interest in the new Department of Conservation
map because it includes all known earthquake faults and seismic activity
in the history of California.

The large, color-coded wall map shows faults superimposed on a map of
California's landscape, cities, and most small towns.  An accompanying
text gives information on the fault age, level of fault activity and
other details.

Edward G. Heidig was appointed by Governor Pete Wilson in February 1991
to ensure the conservation and prudent use of California's land, energy
and mineral resources.

To order "Preliminary Fault Activity Map of California," send a check or
money order for fifteen dollars to:

    Department of Conservation
    Division of Mines and Geology
    P.O. Box 2980
    Sacramento, CA 95812-2980

PRESS: Contact Pam Morris at 916-445-0623

                    -----------------------------

INTERNET users please note:

This item will be available for over-the-counter sales about September
11.  Orders by mail only, at this time, please.

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Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes
From: krissie@locus.com (Krissie Griffiths)
Subject: was there a quake out by lax???
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Distribution: ca
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 20:14:32 GMT

ok experts and know alls (and i say that seriously!!!!) this morning i got
the rattling of my life at about l:20 ish sunday morning.  i live in north
inglewood about 4.5 miles n/w of lax.  it seemed that there was a lot of
noise and then very loud rattling and shaking.  enough so that i took off
for the doorway.  i would guestimate it was about 5-l0 seconds in duration
total.

as for getting anything on the radio i was having a problem finding the talk
station that usually says these things.  and there was nothing in the times.

so, was it an e.q. or one of those planes that "don't exist :-)"  my pictures
in the hallway say something happened.

thanks.

kg

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anything i eat or wear and i try to use products that have not involved 
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Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes
From: "David Coursey" <demoinfo@mail.psi.net>
Subject: Moving to San Mateo, but where?
Reply-To: david_coursey@infoworld.com
Organization: InfoWorld News/Dallas
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 18:28:30 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.01)

I am in the process of being transferred to San Mateo and am looking for 
a place to live.

One of my concerns in making the move is that while tornados don't 
frighten me at all (people who get killed in tornados usually did 
something -- like drive -- which prompted their demise), earthquakes 
scare me more than a bit. (If you're not afraid of 'quakes but wouldn't 
want to move into tornado alley you can appreciate -- in reverse -- my concerns.)

Anyway, I would appreciate guidance about choosing a place to live, 
probably within 8-10 miles of San Mateo (south toward Menlo Park and 
Palo Alto) and especially all the secrets a Texan couldn't be expected 
to know.

The life you save could be mine! <grin>

David
From: stead@skadi.CSS.GOV (Richard Stead)
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes
Subject: Re: Questions raised by SoCal Activity
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:19:52 GMT

In article <y5w1PB2w165w@netlink.cts.com>, mystic@netlink.cts.com (Craig Sadler) writes:
>  stead@skadi.CSS.GOV (Richard Stead) writes:
> >Good scarp!  Best vertical motion fault scarp in CA.  (There are better
> >ones in Nevada, Utah, Idaho and Montana, just 'cause they're newer).
> 
>  Isn't the largest vertical motion fault scarp in the world the Sandia
> (Watermelon) formation near Albuquerque N.M. ? A vertical rise of 1 mile
> from the top of the alluvial fan at the base to the peak of the mountain.
>  Though obviously not a new fault can anyone explain the mechanism that
> produced these mountains ?

Hmm, I'm not familiar with that fault, is it a bounding fault for the Colorado
Plateau?

Anyway, I really meant to say regarding fault scarps that the Owens Valley
scarp was the best with recent motion in CA.  The frontal fault for
the Sierra Nevada would easily put a mere 1 mile vertical to shame.
Mt. Whitney stands closer to 2 miles above the valley floor, and that's all
fault scarp (eroded somewhat, of course).  The Owens Valley fault (at the foot
of the Alabama Hills) is related to the Sierran frontal fault, but with much
less total motion, of course.


--
Richard Stead
Center for Seismic Studies
Arlington, VA
stead@seismo.css.gov
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes,sci.geo.geology
From: elesatz@diana.cair.du.edu (Eric LeSatz)
Subject: Re: CALL FOR AMATEUR EARTHQUAKE FORECASTERS
Keywords: ELF Monitoring, Earthquake Forecasting, magnetic
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 20:49:44 GMT


Actually, I saw a thing on CBS This Morning about forecasting
earthquakes. Apparently there is a geiser (think in Yoesmite) that
changes its eruption cycle a few days before an earthquake. Actually,
that kinda makes sense.

FYI,

Eric
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Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes
From: dave@berlioz.nsc.com (David Hawley)
Subject: The Next Big Quake (Was: Moving to San Mateo, but where?)
Summary: Questions about USGS free publication
Organization: National Semiconductor Corporation
Distribution: ca
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:44:16 GMT

After the Loma Prieta earthquake, the USGS created a publication which
was distributed free in the local newspapers called, "The Next Big
Earthquake (in the Bay Area may come sooner than you think)".  At the
time, copies were available by writing to Earthquakes, USGS,
345 Middlefield Rd., Menlo Park, CA 94025.  If they're still available,
they would be an excellent first reference for new arrivals worried
about earthquakes.  Here are the table of contents:

* A major earthquake is highly likely soon
* What to do right now to prepare
* How to reduce earthquake damage
* Why a major earthquake is highly likely
* How to respond to earthquake advisories
* Where to get more information

I happened to find my copy recently, and had a few questions:

(1) Has a similar publication been created for Southern California?

(2) There was a list of earthquakes of magnitude 6 or greater in the
    Bay Area.  Can someone fill in the locations?

Date*	Mag	Location/Fault

1836	6.8
1838	7.0
1858	6.3
1864	6.0
1865	6.5
1866	6.0
1868	7.0
1870	6.0
1881	6.0
1884	6.0
1889	6.3
1890	6.3
1892	6.3
1892	6.5
1897	6.3
1898	6.5
1906	8.3
1911	6.5
1979	6.0
1980	6.0
1984	6.3
1989	7.1	Loma Prieta (San Andreas)

* data incomplete before 1850

The gap between 1911 and 1979 is really amazing!  It appears we are
starting on another sequence of "normal" activity.  The reason I'm
interested in the locations is that is seems that major quakes in the
bay area are preceeded by activity on adjacent faults.  For example,
in the 10 years before Loma Prieta, a series of quakes moved up the
Calaveras Fault from Hollister to San Jose (east of the San Andreas),
then Los Gatos (just north of LP) got a couple of significant quakes
(5.0 in June 88, 5.2 in Aug 89).  Are there other examples of this,
where smaller quakes form a pattern pointing to a later larger one, over
several years?  How about in Southern California, where the situation
is a lot more complex?  Any recent research or developments?

(3) Unrelated, but what ever happened to the "Palmdale Bulge"?

Thanks, Dave Hawley (dave@berlioz.nsc.com) - not speaking for NSC.
From: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes
Subject: Re: Automatic Gas shutoffs
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:52:36 GMT
Reply-To: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.  Engineering

In article <1992Sep1.180938.14619@qualcomm.com>, karn@servo.qualcomm.com 
(Phil Karn) writes:
> Isn't it also true that gas leaks generally occur after earthquakes
> only when a house has shifted sufficiently on its foundation to damage
> the gas lines?

I think so, and if you have flexible couplings like I do in my house
I think it is very unlikely that a leak is going to occur.



Tom Pickett 
tpickett@auspex.com
SHO  GOZE
From: andyp@treehouse.UUCP (Andy Peterman)
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes
Subject: Re: Automatic Gas shutoffs
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:09:03 GMT
Organization: The Treehouse

Organization: The Treehouse
In article <14403@auspex-gw.auspex.com> tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.004759.17271@morrow.stanford.edu>,
>andy@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Andy Michael USGS Guest) writes:
>
>I shut off my gas after the Loma Prieta quake, even though I
>didn't smell any gas, because I thought I should.  The result is
>that I almost joined the 50,000 other people waiting up to 2
>weeks sometimes more waiting to have PG&E turn the gas back on.
>In the end I realized there was no particular problem with turning
>it back on, and I did so.  Cooking was a pleasure after that.

I've always wondered - why doesn't the utility company want you to turn on 
the gas yourself.  Are they simply assuming that most (or some) people are 
too stupid to light their own pilot lights.  Every gas appliance these days
has a safety shutoff if the pilot goes out, so that shouldn't be a problem.
In fact, most appliances (except for water heaters) now have pilotless
ignitions.  So what's the problem - or are they just being very careful and
protecting their liability?
-- 
Andy Peterman                       
treehouse!andyp@gvgpsa.gvg.tek.com  
(916) 273-4569
From: ellon@ADS.COM (Ellon St. Croix)
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes
Subject: Re: Hurricane Andrew's Warning
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:59:37 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Wild Bill & BabyCat's House of Many Pleasures


garyf@cco.caltech.edu (Gary Fuller) writes:
>Hurricane Andrew sent us a warning this week, a warning that
>should be headed by everyone in California.  It shows that, even
>with a two day lead time before the disaster, that aid will be
>slow in coming.
> 
>When we, in Los Angeles, San Francisco or San Diego have a huge
>earthquake, the government isn't going to have that warning.  It
>will be over in minutes, with aftershocks following for days.
> 
>Florida is almost a crystal ball for what California will suffer
>in a major earthquake.  Roads will be closed, supplies will be
>hard to distribute to the most needed areas, fights and looting
>will occur, and most of all - major organized aid will not be
>coming in hours, it will be days.
> 
>Prepare.  Set up plans for communication and meeting places with
>those you love.  Set aside supplies and don't count on anything
>beyond what you have.

Gary, This is soooo true.  Thank you for reminding everyone.  We
started storing supplies after the Big Bear and Landers EQ, because 
I am so paranoid of them.(EQ's that is...) Luckily (for me) the last 
4 big EQ's that occured, did so while we were out of the state.:+)

Don't shrug these suggestions off people...BE PREPARED for when THE
BIG ONE HITS HERE!

Ellon St. Croix
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From: andre@crowe.seas.ucla.edu (Andre Stechert)
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes
Subject: Re: was there a quake out by lax???
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:57:09 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Computer Science Undergraduate Association (UCLA)


	You're not alone.  My two roommates and I felt that "quake" or
whatever it was as well.  Where we were (Palms) it felt like someone had
run into the building with a big truck.  After reading this newsgroup for
three months, I was convinced it was a P-wave from a huge earthquake until
the earthquake didn't come.  It was just a short but strong snap out here.
If anyone else felt it or if anyone knows what it was please post!

	Joe
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Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes
From: rodman@pkr.asd.sgi.com (Paul Rodman)
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes
Subject: Re: Automatic Gas shutoffs
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:32:12 GMT
Reply-To: rodman@pkr.asd.sgi.com (Paul Rodman)
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc.

In article <1992Sep1.222059.25440@morrow.stanford.edu>, andy@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Andy Michael USGS Guest) writes:
|> 
|> I should point out that I was not actually taking a position on the use
|> of automatic shut off valves.  I've seen them, they are interesting
|> devices, but if they shut your gas off, as this poster pointed out, you
|> could be in for a long wait before the utility company can relight
|> your appliances.
|> 

I would not be interested in any such device that I could not reset myself.

My furnance is a piezo-electricically ignited unit with no pilot.  My 
dryer also has electronic ignition.

I am fully capable of relighting my hot water heater and can't understand
how somebody can survive without understanding how to relight it. It isn't
rocket science, ya'know.

I personaly don't like the though of having flame-throwers continue to operate 
in my house during an earthquake. If you've ever looked inside your furnace or
dryer, etc. while it was running you might feel the same....its pretty 
intense in there and the internals aren't built for much shaking!

Anyway, the scoop is that Home Base (formerly Home Club) has a cheap plastic
version for abut 85$ that you reset with a screwdriver. There is a metal version
made by Koso International, Santa Fe Springs that sounds much nicer and is
reset the same way. They trip at about a 5.0 quake.

Both are easy to install yourself on the house side of the meter although you
must level them. (the Koso has a chain-dangling-in-a-hole-through-a-plate built
in for this purpose.) If you hesitate to learn how to play with gas lines (actually easier than water plumbing, if you buy the pipe pre-threaded) you can
get the gas co. to install them for a resonable fee.

2nd question:

What about the high pressure regulator down the street during a quake?
Can it fail such that it allows full pressure gas down the line?  (normal
house gas pressure is very, very small, about 1/4 psi.) Will my earthquake
shutoff valve protect my lines from full high pressure gas?


-- 
Paul K. Rodman
rodman@sgi.com
From: rah@public.BTR.COM (Richard A Hyde  rah@btr.com)
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes
Subject: Re: Hurricane Andrew's Warning
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:10:12 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. Contact: Customer Service cs@BTR.COM

In article <1992Aug28.071926.9817@cco.caltech.edu> garyf@cco.caltech.edu (Gary Fuller) writes:
|Hurricane Andrew sent us a warning this week, a warning that
|should be headed by everyone in California.  It shows that, even
|with a two day lead time before the disaster, that aid will be
|slow in coming.
| 

I just logged on to post this very message when I read your posting!

Replace flood damage with *fire* as the major co-factor and you have
a pretty good idea as to what is in store  :-(

Rick

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From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Subject: Re: More comments on Plate Tectonics and California
Summary: volcanism
Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:27:49 GMT

In article <jester.715314185@crash> lee@bnf.com writes:
>1.  Clarification on the northward movement of volcanism in
>California:  since the source of volcanism of the Cascade Range is the
>offshore subduction of the Juan de Fuca Plate, it is the northwesterly
>movement of that plate and its subduction trench which determines
>where the accompanying volcanism will be found.

This applies to the familiar continental-margin-arc
volcanism like that still going on in the Cascades.

There's also a different sort of volcanism that
seems to be associated with the northward movement
of the Mendicono triple junction.  The rocks
produced by this activity have geochemical signatures
that are quite different from Cascade-style volcanism,
and they're closer to the continental margin (now, anyway).
These rocks are exposed at the Pinnacles, near Parkfield,
in the Quien Sabe valley, and in the still-active
Clear Lake volcanic field.  Pleistocene (I think) basalt
flows in the Palo Alto area may also represent this
phenomenon.
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@forel.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes
From: andy@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Andy Michael USGS Guest)
Subject: Re: Automatic Gas shutoffs
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 00:47:59 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.233234.9670@odin.corp.sgi.com> rodman@pkr.asd.sgi.com (Paul Rodman) writes:
>I was thinking about getting an automatic gas shutoff for my house, and
>the though occured to me why not make it myself?
>
>For the simplest and most foolproof thing I though about just buying a
>solenoid gas valve and hooking it up to a simple 24v transformer. In a big
>quake the power will most likely fail and viola! it shuts off the gas. The
>only thing is I will also lose hot water in a power failure (the furnace 
>needs juice for the blowers anyway and the kit. stove is electric). I could
>always install a manual gas "shunt" valve around the solenoid if I want to 
>override it, I suppose.
As you noted the biggest problem is that every power failure, regardless
of the cause will shut off your gas.  Where we live short power failures
are quite common so this would be a pain.  Also, when the power comes back on
you probably don't want the gas turning back on by itself.  Keeping this
from happening will make your device a bit more complicated.

>I've heard that these gizmos normally cost about $600, (installed?) and
>that you have to have somebody come out to reset them. Is this true? Could
>you reset it yourself? 
I've seen these valves exhibited at a few meetings and earthquake fairs.
You can easily reset the valve yourself as long as you are capable of
relighting your appliances safely.  The assumption is that most people
are not capable of this and thus they reccommend that you have the gas
company come out and do it.  The valve itself is easier to reset than
the average stopcock.

>If they go in-line after the meter can I buy it and install it myself?
>(I've done some gas plumbing). How much do they run?
They are around $400 to $600 if I remember correctly.  I suppose you could
install it yourself although where I live a building permit and license
would be required as it does go on right near the gas meter.  So if you
follow all the rules you might not be allowed to do it yourself.

Andy

These comments have nothing to do with my work at the USGS.
Newsgroups: ca.wanted,ca.news,ba.wanted,rec.gardens,su.market,ba.market.housing,ba.market.misc
From: trish@isl.Stanford.EDU (Patricia Halloran)
Subject: ** PETS NEED HELP IN FLORIDA **
Organization: Stanford University
     ** The message below is forwarded from rec.pets.dogs
	 to get wider distribution/involvement**
     **  Please help!
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 20:31:09 GMT

>In article <1992Aug29.014556.3783@udel.edu> hartman@dewey.udel.edu
(Nancy Hartman) writes:

>Hurricane Andrew has left *MANY* pets hurt and homeless.  Since I'm sure
>that pet care is not eligible for federal help, we all need to chip in.
>
>The North County Humane Society is going to be going down soon to rescue
>and care for as many animals as possible.  This is an extremely dangerous
>task, two humane society workers have already been shot in the all the 
>violence down there.
>
>Lis Roehrich at the North County Humane Society requests mail be sent
>to their PO Box:
>
>        NORTH COUNTY HUMANE SOCIETY
>        P.O. Box 1843
>        Jupiter, FL  33468-1843
>
>Here's an updated list of what's desperately needed:

>        *MONEY*
>        Food
>        cages (all size)
>        leashes, harness, collars (or even ropes!)
>        bowls
>        water bottles
>        medical supplies - especially bandaes
>        towels and blankets
>        flea products
>        kitten & puppy formula
>        hairball remedies
>        litter pans
>        litter
>        toys
>
>        New or used, send it down!!
>
>The humane society is also supplying items to vets who are caring for
>hurricane victims free of charge, and people who are desperately trying to
>keep their pets.  The people desperately need cages, leashes, etc. to keep
>their pets under control, remember they no longer havve the luxury of homes
>and fences.
>
>They will also distribute non-food human care items, so throw them in the
>box too (especially baby & child care products!)
>
>The humane society said that right now most horses and livestock are
>being sent to Burt Reynolds' ranch and Fred Ranson (guess he runs a ranch
>too).  If someone in Floridaa could find out their addresses for me, I would
>really appreciate it.  I'm sure they need supplies, too.
>
>- Nancy
>
>Nancy Hartman					CIS graduate student
>hartman@udel.edu				U. of Delaware
>        President and founder, Delaware Valley Ferret Club
>                      Owner of Percy & Bree
From: BROSE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: ca.wanted
Subject: Hairdresser Wanted
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:39:12 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Does anyone know of someone who would re-braid a Bisque
dolls hair?  I have a very expensive doll which was
on display for a long period of time and her hair has been
messed up with taking off and putting on her hat.
Some doll shops would do it but it requires keeping the
doll for a few days and I would prefer not to do that.

If you know of someone please E-Mail or call (415) 926-2664 wk.
Thanks...