From: jjprice@eos.ncsu.edu (JEFFREY JAMES PRICE)
Subject: Re: TOO YOUNG TO CHOOSE
Originator: jjprice@c00069-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jjprice@eos.ncsu.edu (JEFFREY JAMES PRICE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:49:34 GMT


In article <1992Nov5.164425.16148@nas.nasa.gov>, dking@raul.nas.nasa.gov (Dan King) writes:
|>In article <1992Nov3.210902.3556@ncsu.edu> jjprice@eos.ncsu.edu (JEFFREY JAMES PRICE) writes:
|> 
|>>On this point we are both right. There are always exceptions and always rules.
|>>I favor a 24-hour waiting period. This will give those that did not do
|>>enough "soul-searching" time to do so and for those that already have while
|>>a minor inconvience it will not change the desicion they have come to.
|> 
|>Heres a better and easier to implement solution Jeffrey.  Why don't we
|>just ask the woman, "have you carefully considered this decision?" when 
|>they go to procure an abortion?
|> 
|>>Also fully inform the female of the Pro's and Con's of the issue. This
|>>would allow the uneducated to know what they are doing while those that
|>>have already come to a thoughtful well informed decision it would only
|>>be a minor inconvience.
|> 
|>I have a better solution here to.  Why doesn't the clinic ask them 
|>when they show up, "Have you made a thoughtful and well informed 
|>decision?" 
|>
Unfortunately everyone is not honest and these minor inconvience should be
no problem to those that want abortions.

|>>One way to at least partially solve the problem would be to get better
|>>conselors from clinics.
|> 
|>Do you have specific problems with the current counselors?
|> 
If you had not deleted some of the text that I was refering to it would have
made sense.I was talking about 2 underage females I knew that got abortions and
were not properley counseled about abortion.

|>>True. Education is a primary step to solving the problem because most
|>>abortions are performed because they are unwanted pregnancies.If we
|>>educate people on where babies come from we could cut down on the number hopefully
|> 
|>Do you really believe that their are that many woman that don't know
|>where baby's come from?  
|> 
Again if you had not edited the relevant text my reply was to someone saying
that there are people out there that believe you won't get pregnant if you
don't swallow or if you didn't really enjoy or if its your first time.
Yes I really do believe there are some people out there that don't know
where babies come from, but this is a small minority and I was only
reply to the person that replied to one of my articles.

|>>Concerning the rest of your question about an wanted pregnancy becoming
|>>unwanted I would absolutely keep this woman from having an abortion unless
|>>it threatened her life. When she intentinally got pregnant she did it
|>>for the sole purpose of bringing life into this world and now that she is
|>>carring and nurturing that life inside her womb she wants to kill it and
|>>snuff out its life because she's having second thoughts. How  cruel
|>>can you get?
|> 
|>Have you ever talked to a woman that got an abortion?  I have talked
|>to a few and I have yet to meet one that got an abortion because
|>she wanted to kill and snuff out the life of the fetus.  As far as 
|>my own personal research goes, the women that I know that procured
|>abortions did it because they did not want to be pregnant.  Care to
|>elaborate about these women that get abortions because they want
|>to kill.
|> 
Again you edited out the relevant discussion earlier. We were talking about
a woman who intentionaly got pregnant and then later decided she wanted
an abortion.

|>Jeffrey, I'd advise you to talk to women.  You seem to be having
|>a difficult time seeing them as fellow human beings.  The ones
|>I have known are perfectly capable of making major life decisions
|>without your, mine or the government's help.  The ones I know are
|>not as flightly as you may think.  They don't go down to the
|>abortion clinic on a whim.  By the time they get there, the ones
|>I have known have already given the decision a lot of consideration.  
|>
I have talked to women. I think you should find out more before making
accusations. Most of my feelings about stricter abortion laws are based
on my talks with these 2 young women. Unfortunately not all woman give
the issue as much thought as the women you are talking about. So we have
to make sure they know what they are doing.

|> 
|>>-Jeff Price
|> 
|>Dan King
|>
-Jeff Price

	"What is legally permissible rapidly comes to be seen as
	 morally acceptable" 
			- Cardinal Cahal Daly of Ireland
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