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From: yaom@phyast.la.asu.edu (MINGHUI YAO)
Subject: Re: HXWZ permission mode!!
Organization: National Center for HREM
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 16:47:00 GMT
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In article <1hitqhINN60h@miles.mps.ohio-state.edu>, ren@miles.mps.ohio-state.edu (Liming Ren) writes...
>Whoever manages the IFCSS ftp site:
> 
>	You put the permission mode as
> 
>-rw-r-----  1 1102       266954 Dec 25 21:17 HXWZ91_1.tar.Z
>-rw-r-----  1 1102       289495 Dec 25 21:18 HXWZ91_2.tar.Z
> 
>This makes the files inaccessible to many readers. Please CORRECT it!
> 
> 

It is corrected now.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: liuyh@vis.toronto.edu (Yuanhui Liu)
Subject: Re: DATA: largest world economies
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:30:16 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.165855.18631@zip.eecs.umich.edu> cyc@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Yi-Chieh Chang) writes:
>>>Taiwan belongs to ROC and the people lived in Taiwan.
>>>Why Chinese are so addicted to force other people to become Chinese 
>>>while so many Chinese want to be American ? That's I called fuck!
>>You will hard time to convince we Chinese on that, you may have to hear sound ofbullets, if you refuse to listen to sound of  Chinese voice. That is all.
>
>Sounds stupid. Usually, I don't listen to stupid sounds, thats all.
>
>Yi-Chieh

then STOP making them.
From: zli@duke.cs.duke.edu (Zhiyong Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Looking for friends
Date: 1 Jan 93 18:51:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.


Hi, everybody,

I am looking Mr. Huang Kanglin and Mr. Liao Hanzhong.

Mr. Huang graduated from Department of physics, Peking University  in
1984. He came to Michigan Techinical University in 1985 pursuing Ph.D
degree in the Dept. of Physics.

Mr. Liao graduated from Huazhong University of Science and
Technology, Dept. of Computer in 1984. He came to USA in 1989. 

Please send email or call to me if these two guys read this news. If
anyone knows anything about these twos guys, please let me know.
Thanks a lot.

My phone number :  (919)383-4235

Happy new year and good luck for all of the Chinese!



--Zhiyong LI


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From: x0y3510@tamuts.tamu.edu (Xuejun Yang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: chinese manifest destiny
Date: 3 Jan 1993 22:34:48 GMT
Organization: ~/lib/organization
Distribution: soc
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In article <1993Jan1.4298.41393@dosgate> "micky wong" <micky.wong@canrem.com> writes:
>China is doing fine on the GNP part, not the school part..... wonder why?

FYI, China is also doing fine on education considering the economic
status of current China. The recent US ETS test results of most countries
put China first with an average of 80 points out of 100, Tainwan and
South Korea 2nd with 78 points. USA 15th with 55 points. This is a test
of average 13 year old math aptitude. The other example is last year's
Math, Chemistry and Physics Olimpics gold medals ALL went to China's
students!!! You may say that's just special case. Well for one thing
the elementry education is madatory in China. With a population of
1.2 billion, the literay rate is > 75%. The majority of the illiterate
are people older than 60 years olds. What's remarkable about this is
the fact that China is the only 3rd world economic country to be ranked
high in those test and we only used a fraction of the cost to achieve
this result. Do not equate government expenditure on education to 
emphasizing education! Its the result that counts. I think you probably
become too much of a "Banana"!!!
Happy New Year!

Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:33751 soc.culture.taiwan:16686 soc.culture.hongkong:16728
From: gang@ms.uky.edu (Gang Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Looking Back From 2992 - The disastrous 21st century
Date: 2 Jan 93 03:54:45 GMT
    <C07173.7x3@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <C077KL.2xp@cs.psu.edu>
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

wang@math.psu.edu (Feng Wang) writes:

>The issue is also presented in the TV show
>Star Trek series.  Any SF fans out there?

Yehp, there is one. But I always wish that I could get a chance to watch it
when I was a teenager.
Happy new year every one, which means that we have one less year to go on
the earth.
New years always make me sad, maybe, perhaps, who knows...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: 90908648@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: Re:The Second Austrilia Satellite Has Been Launched Successively
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:55:21 GMT

  Good news... because those Xichang people will enjoy a happy,
  peacful New Year with their families, they won't need to 
  send their children to their grandmas, no need to JiaBan, and
  may be they'll get some jiangjin after this launch and buy
  their children some new year presents. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: comfort girls?
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Distribution: soc
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 21:37:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.4298.41328@dosgate> "micky wong" <micky.wong@canrem.com> writes:
>In Article: <1992Dec28.143403.8912@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>
>   Subject: Comfort girls?
>      From: bgt@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (barbara.tongue) writes:
Is it funny that those who sided withy Birtish on HongKong issue are
ultra-active in revealing WWII Japanese autrocities, and  comdamning CCP
siding with "Japanese militarists".
To tell you people truth, I havbe strong suspection and circumstance evidenc
that Japan's invasion of China was encorage quietly by West, to stare away
the anguish Chinese harbored against West.
This new wave to compaign may serve the similar purpose.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:33776 soc.culture.usa:9419
From: zdchang@coos.dartmouth.edu (David Z. Chang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.usa
Subject: To Those at Univ. of Chicago
Date: 2 Jan 93 22:05:33 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Hi, are there anyone out there can tell me the detail mailing address of Univ. 
of Chicago, specificly, Dept. of Pharmacology? What is the zip code? What is 
the department telephone number if anyone knows by any chance?

Please respond to my own account rather than posting here. Thanks!

David
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: stacc0@quantum.fiu.edu (Ye)
Subject: Re: Another situation puzzle
Organization: Florida International University, Miami
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:05:00 GMT

In article <102838@netnews.upenn.edu>, hxie@dps91a.cis.upenn.edu (Hong Liang Xie) writes:
|> In article <1034@blue.cis.pitt.edu>, yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding) writes:
|> |> In article <BzL2HE.Bq3@nic.umass.edu> s9874203@titan.ucc.umass.edu (s9874203) writes:
|> |> >
|> |> >He is too short to reach the button.
|> |> 
|> |> I guess on a raining day, he can reach by his umbrella.
|> |> 
|> 
|> So the puzzle is solved, quickly.  Here is another one.  Have fun.
|> 
|> ***************************
|> A man is sitting in bed in a hotel room.  He makes a phone call,
|> saying nothing, and then goes to sleep. 


One of those 976 calls.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: guo@borneo.gmd.de (Guo Shuwei)
Subject: Re: Two puzzles
Organization: GMD
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 13:32:08 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.094119.17293@dxcern.cern.ch>, sijin@dxcern.cern.ch (Sijin Qian) writes:
|> In article <wshi.724998309@ponder> wshi@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Weiping Shi) writes:
|> >Here is a not-so-easy one:
|> >
|> >Given two points on the plane, use ONLY a compass
|> >(yuan2 gui1) to find the center of the two points.
|> >NOTE: You cannot use straight edge (zhi2 chi3).
|> 
|> Easy! Do the following:
|> (1) Draw 2 circles with centres at the 2 points by the compass; the radii of
|>   the circles are the same and larger than the half of the distance between
|>   2 points.
|> (2) Draw a straight line between 2 intersections of the 2 circles.
|> (3) Draw a straight line between 2 centres of the circles.
|> (4) The intersection of the lines in (2) and (3) is the centre you want!

here you cannot use straight edge (zhi2 chi3), how can you draw the straight
lines?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: jli@udecc.engr.udayton.edu (Jinghong Li)
Subject: Re: Another situation puzzle
Organization: Univ. of Dayton, School of Engineering
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 14:49:38 GMT

>>***************************
>>A man is sitting in bed in a hotel room.  He makes a phone call,
>>saying nothing, and then goes to sleep. 
>>***************************
>As other netters have mentioned, there are too many possibilities here.
>One possibility is that he made a call to his office phone number to
>see if there were important messages. Apparently there were not, so he just
>went to sleep.
>Meng

He called his girlfriend to arrange the run-away, but the girl's mother
picked up the phone and yelled to tear him into peices ... He was 
surprised, scared, passed over.
 


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to understand the game but not smart enough to lose interest.
From: lix@thames.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Gi Gong:  scienceor religion?
Date: 4 Jan 93 01:53:00 GMT
Organization: Boston University

In article <1993Jan3.143417.4203@vax.cns.muskingum.edu> jfeng@vax.cns.muskingum.edu writes:
>an insult to our intelligence.  If we think Yan's Gi Gong as a kind of
>religion, let's leave it alone and not make a big fuss over it.  

Neither. Even not magic, which honestly tells you that is magic.
The magic kind of QiGong, is nothing more than cheating.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yidao@cae.wisc.edu (Yidao Cai)
Subject: Re: Wei Qi News
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 23 Dec 92 09:30:49 CST

In article <1108@blue.cis.pitt.edu> yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding) writes:
>Chinese ming2 ren2 Ma xiaochun has defeated Japanese counterpart
>(Meijin) Xiao3 lin2 guang1 yi1 by score of 2-1. 
>
>All three games are won by white.
>
>-- 
>//Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh //Go your way, be happy.

Congraduations ! This is the first time that the Chinese side won in such 
an event.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: Tuya@ccmail.uoregon.edu (Tuya)
Subject: Re: A not-so-fun question
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 23:11:17 GMT

          Ok.  Let us put it this way:

          You have M projects to invest in, each requiring a given
          amount of money, no more, no less.  But you only have N
          dollars which can only cover some of the projects.  Now,
          which of these projects should you invest so the total
          investment is maximized?

          Put yourself in the position of a central planning economy
          leader who has the glorious responsibility to plan the next
          year's guo2 min2 jing1 ji4, such as Stalin and Mao zhuxi,
          and think hard -- only socialism can save China.

          Tu Ya
From: wang@dorrit.as.utexas.edu (Bubba Qiangguo Wang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: test 1 [1/1] {other}
Date: 30 Dec 92 22:06:55 GMT
Distribution: ut

Please ignore, this is a test posting.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.japan
From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Hus Fu and the Japanese
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 00:23:48 GMT

In article <ljhfrkINN5cm@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin) writes:
>
>It is interesting question about where did the Japanese come from.
>Japanese scholars tend to deny their connection with China and Chinese.
>As well as some other race, people like to claim the vague relationship
>with white people. KAL described in airplane brochure: Though Korea is
>located between China and Japan, Korean people have no relation with
>Chinese and Japanese. ..............

Some scholars dispute this point.  John W. Hall, a well-known historian, for
example, suggested that the Japanese imperial house might have been foreign,
probably Korean, in origin.

>The author was in a trip of official business to Gang-yu County of Jiangxu.
>He was told by the local people there is a Hsu Fu village in the north of
>the county, at the border of Shangdong. Later the author had been in that
>village many times with the local Ling-dao, so he has collected much first
>hand valuable information. The author then started to checked with the
>Chinese historical writings. The "Shi Gee" written by Shi Ma-Chien has 
>pretty much information matched with the story that common people in the
>Hsu Fu village like to talk about. Also there are many historical items
>left over thousand years supporting the story.

Which are?  I really haven't seen much concrete evidence to support the
contention that Hsu Fu's expedition landed in Japan.

>The author found that Hsu Fu had been in Japan many times and very familiar
>with the the sailing routes and weather before he presented his idea to
>the emperor of Qin. He was a thoughtful man, mainly tried to save Chinese
>people from ruin by the tyrant.

This is a problematic point; the emperor of Qin, Yin2 Jen4, was not really
more tyrannic than most of the emperors who came later; however, he got most
of his blame unfairly from Confucian historians due to the fact that he
favored legalism (and not Confucianism).  Therefore, if Yin Jen was not
particularly a bad emperor, why would Hsu Fu even think about "saving the
Chinese people from ruin" if he's not ruining them?  This is one thing that
I feel skeptical about this study.

The theory that Hsu Fu went to Japan might very well be a Confucian invention
later on as well, to both help villify the Qin and to reduce the status of
the Japanese.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xhlin@brahms.udel.edu (Xuhua Lin)
Subject: help
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: us
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 21:04:34 GMT

I have a friend coming from mainland China Jan. 15, 1993. He will go to
State University of New York at Binghamton for Spring semester. Is there
anyone who could kindly send me some information about housing in Binhamton
area? Thanks.

Xuhua Lin 
(xhlin@brahms.udel.edu)
(Tel. 302-737-0931)
From: zzhang@soliton.rutgers.edu (ZhiZhong Zhang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: old man cross river
Date: 26 Dec 92 20:43:58 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

uphhswh@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes:

He swam across the river!
ZZZ
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yz@ee (Yang Zhang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Help: Chinese Regulation on FAX Machine
Date: 23 Dec 92 19:41:12 GMT
Originator: yz@ee.egr.duke.edu

Could you please tell me the Chinese Government regulation on importing
FAX machine?  I am going to visit China soon, and want to take a FAX machine
with me. I wonder what the current regulations on this matter.

Thank you very much for your help.

Yang
yz@ee.egr.duke.edu
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: Negroes. I urge everybody ignore this racist, to avoid flames.
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 20:57:12 GMT

In article <1992Dec27.165529.22322@fuug.fi> an3879@anon.penet.fi writes:
>I have been watching the images from somolia on TV recently
>and I noticed one thing.  The black people in Somolia actually
>had facial and other body features that made them more like
>human beings than the black people that lives in the United
>States (mostly of the Negro race).  The Somolians seems to
>have narrower noses and did not seem to sway from sided to
>side when they walked.  The Negroes on the other hand have
>large wide noses with huge round nostrils which makes them
>look like gorrilas.  And when the Negroes walk they seem to
>sway from side to side like gorrilas do when they walk.
>
>I have noticed this difference among Chinese too.  It seems 
>like that the Chinese from the more civilized part of China
>seem to have narrower noses whereas the Chinese from the
>less developed part of China seem to have large flat noses
>with huge round nostrils similiar to that of the Negroes.
>
>Also have you noticed that all of the movie stars from Hong
>Kong, Taiwan, and Japan seem to have small narrow noses.  This
>could only mean that civilized society as a whole subconciously
>believes that large flat noses with huge round nostrils are 
>ugly and are associated with lower forms of life and gorrilas.
>
>Also, have you noticed that the artists' perception of the 
>cave man and prehistoric man that you always see in Museums
>and science books always show the primitive man as having
>wide, flat noses with huge round nostrils.
>
>Also, have you noticed that Michael Jackson keeps getting
>plactic surgery to shrink his nose and make it more narrow.
>Have you noticed that when Michael Jackson was young, he
>had a huge flat nose with huge round gorrila like nostrils?
>This means that even, Michael Jackson himself was forced by
>the civilized society into believing that the huge flat nose
>with huge round gorrila nostrils is ugly.
>
>
>
>  
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: becker@shell.portal.com (CELIA TONY BECKER)
Subject: Re: Mongolia
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 10:48:36 GMT

In my previous article:  becker@shell.portal.com (CELIA TONY BECKER) 
I wrote:

>Shouldn't a plebiscite among
>Mongolians determine any merger with China?  That so many people
>in this discussion argued so strongly for "taking over Mongolia,"

Xiaowen Li <lix@thames.bu.edu> responded:

>Well, I did not notice that, how many? There are always a few to stir
>this or that. But among all Chinese I know, none has any interest to
>take over Mongolia -- though the most feel sad to the way those
>revolutionaries in KMT and CCP to sell it. 

First, I responded to five earlier discussions by Chinese about Mongolia
that ranged from not recognizing Mongolian independence under old 
ROC policies and laws, to re-establishing unity or control.  Not one of
the five articles respected the right of Mongolians to determine for
themselves their own fate.  The series of articles seemed to be 
prompted by a Mongolian named Olej, who wondered what the Chinese
thought of Mongolia.

I also wrote:
>>Recall that it was the Chinese government's murder of Genghis Khan's
>>father that prompted him to take over China.

To which Li responded:
>Well, that is very interesting. You seem having read a lot of history,*
>could you please enlighten us when the Chinese government murdered
>Genghis Khan's father and when he took over the China?

A very good source is _The_Empire_of_the_Steppes:_A_History_of_Central_Asia
by the French historian Rene Grousset.  If it's not in your library it might
still be for sale by the History Book Club.  Pages 198-199 refer to the 
Chinese emperor about 1161 A.D., appealing to the Tatars for help in
Chinese disputes with the Mongols, and using the Tatars against the Mongols.
Within this alliance, about 1167 A.D., the Tatars lured Ghengis' father
to a banquet and "succeeded in poisoning Yesugei at a meal in the steppe."
I have several other references, but won't bore you with the repeats.

* Thank you for the compliment, I have a double degree in history and
anthropology--with four completed fields of history, including East Asia--
from the University of Minnesota.  I studied under Professors Farmer, Poor, 
Wright, Kopf, Taylor, etc.  At the time I graduated, the U of M was one of 
only three universities in the U.S. to retain complete Asian Studies and
Asian history departments.  Nixon didn't appreciate the efforts of we
Concerned Asian Scholars to end the Vietnam war...
From: zyan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Zhongcheng Yan)
Subject: Math(or Geometry) problem
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:26:06 GMT

Inspired by the discussion of "math problem", I post here a problem I 
encountered in my research to ask for help from the mathematicans. BTW,
I am studying mechanical engineering. 

Here is the problem:

It is understood that arbitrary 5 points(excluding some special cases such as
colinear or coplanar,etc) can uniquely determine a cylindrical surface(its 
axis and radius). Is it possible to use the given 5 points to figure out
the cylindrical surface parameters(axis position and orientation, radius)?
If yes, how?

Currently, I am using 9 points to get the coefficients of a general quadric
equation,

    Ax^2+By^2+Cz^2+Dxy+Eyz+Fzx+Gx+Hy+Iz+J=0

then get the axis and radius from the coefficients.

Any comments and suggestions on using less than 9 points are appreciated.

Thanks in advance.