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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: Prime Directive
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:56:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.165352.28770@no1home.nashvil.ingr.com> puter@no1home.nashvil.ingr.com (PuterDude) writes:
>In article <A57332@HB.maus.de> Sem_Hoelscher@hb.maus.de (Sem Hoelscher) writes:
>>[pos] So, how do they explain the number of times Jamie's done it and gotten
>>      away with it?
>>
>>First you should state, where =you= think, he actually has broken the Prime
>>Directive?!!
>
>Yo Sem,
>	I'm not good with titles, but I remember the episode where Kirk
>was on trial for jettisoning Finney without declaring red alert first.
>In it, he admitted to the blonde_dated_her_prosecutor that he had
>broken the Prime Directive (I forget how many) times.


"I've been jettisoned, and I can't get up!"


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From: jlkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Justin Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: TNG computer screen gifs
Date: 12 Sep 92 01:47:26 GMT


	A while back, someone posted some picts of TNG computer
displays to to ftp site at sumex-aim.stanford.edu.  I was wondering
if anyone had any other PICT or GIFs of TNG computer displays.

Thanks,
Justin

P.S.  I think that the files are still at sumex in the /info-mac/art
directory.  They are (I believe) Mac pict format.
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From: mholmes@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mark Holmes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: When is the first new episode
Date: 15 Sep 92 03:42:13 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

When will the first episode be airing or where can i find this info?

Mark

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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: REQ: PS-drawing of NCC1701 (original)
Keywords: PostScript StarTrek Enterprise drawing request
Date: 15 Sep 92 02:34:03 GMT
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Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
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In article <1992Sep14.125230.16190@fzi.de> dockhorn@fzi.de writes:
<The subject says it:
<I read the FAQ and looked in the places mentioned there but without
<success - I found great drawings of the NCC1701d (STNG), but I'm
<looking for plans of the original ship, the Enterprise (NCC1701).
<I'd appreciate if someone could point me to a site where I could
<fetch such drawings from.
<
<cheers,
<Patsch
<
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From: jwindley%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Jay Windley)
Subject: Re: A Silly Top 10 List
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:28:37 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

greg@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu (Greg Trotter) writes:
>I'm kinda wondering... looking at all the planets TOS visited, and -- more
>importantly -- how many women across the galaxy slept with Kirk, shouldn't
>TNG crew be finding lots of planets with inhabitants (as least a few, anyway)
>who look just like Kirk???  :-)

That's my favorite explanation for why all the TNG aliens look
suspiciously humanoid.

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From: cmhayes@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Purple Hayes   )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Navy in Star Trek
Date: 10 Sep 92 06:07:36 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Sep9.203131.9361@bsu-ucs.uucp> 00rdharringt@bsu-ucs.uucp (Rob Harrington) writes:
>In article <22272@galaxy.ucr.edu>, judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson) writes:
>> Why is it that Star Trek is part of the navy?  Did the army disappear?
>> Do battle ships carry Marine Corps soldiers?
>> It makes sense that the federation should be a part of the navy since they
>> call their vessels ships.  But is the navy really going to rule outer
>> space?
>
>What you just said makes perfect sense...  Space isn't like the ocean
>where land is "relatively" close...  There's a lot of empty space
>out there...  So, you need ships to patrol that space... Hence the
>Starfleet resembling the Navy...
>

I dont know about that.  I figure when Roddenberry was trying to
sell Star Trek he used a means that the American public could realate to.
He used the USN.  Think about it.  Why use the designation "USS"?
Why not use "FSS" for Federation Starship?  Or UFPS? 
And why use the name "Enterprise," "Yorktown" or others from USN
history?  I believe the USS Entrpise (CVN-65) was commissioned about
the same time TOS began her own maind voyage.  The public could preceive it as
the ultimate evolution of the USN.  That's the way I see it and I
hope it evolves.  

Now look at TNG.  They are using more ship names that the rest of
the world can relate to.  "Soyuz" (sp?),  "Berlin", "Melbourne"
(for the rest check out Mr. Carrington's list)  Remember Star Trek
is popular thoughtout the world now.  Wouldn't you want to make our
customers happy?

>sig deleted>--

IMHO
Chris
cmhayes@sdcc13.ucsd.edu
From: mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mike Levis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Mutiny on the Holodeck
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:51:55 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <22289@galaxy.ucr.edu> judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson) writes:
[...]
>Thus, it would theoretically be possible for a mutiny in a holodeck.
>However, it would only be possible if bridge controls were transfered to
>the holodeck, which, I think, can only be authorized by the captain.

I think I remember an episode where Barclay uses the Holodeck to
take control of the Enterprise.

>--
>"I drank what?" -- Socrates
>
>judson@watserv.ucr.edu


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From: techy@iastate.edu (Technobabblonian)
Subject: Re: TV Special hosted by Patrick Stewart
Keywords: Star Trek, The Cage, Patrick Stewart, TV Special, Cast Interviews
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 01:42:44 GMT

In article <BuJL2t.K38@cs.dal.ca> rountree@cs.dal.ca (Eric Rountree) writes:
>
>A year and a half to two years ago a special about Star Trek hosted by 
>Patrick Stewart aired. It contained "The Cage" in its entirety and 
>completely in colour, and also featured interview clips with the casts of 
>the original and Next Generation series.
>
>I would like to know the following:
>
>a) Does anyone out there know the name of this special?
>
>b) Does anyone out there have this special on tape?
>
>c) Would any of those persons who have the special on tape be willing to
>   make a copy of it?

The name was called "Star Trek: From One Generation to the Next"

However, I too am trying to find a copy.. maybe there will be
an official release from PP in the near future.
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch)
Subject: Re: ST: TNG & homosexuality
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 01:21:20 GMT

gt7994a@prism.gatech.EDU (ORMOND,SEAN PATRICK) writes:

Lots of homophobic flamebait.  Folks, if you're going to respond to this in
any terms that don't *directly* involve TNG, then please take it to a more
appropriate group or to email.  The Floating Homosexuality Flamewar has never
been a welcome addition to any group I've ever seen, and r.a.s.* has already
had far more than its fair share.

Thanks for the efforts.

Tim Lynch
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From: eric_gorr@coglab_psych.uoregon.edu (Eric Gorr)
Subject: Re: Inner Light waste of film? (no spoilers)
Organization: University of Oregon
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 01:27:49 GMT

I couldn't agree more...it is my favorite episode of them all...tied with
Yesterday's Enterprise.

In article <BuIynq.K6B@vuse.vanderbilt.edu>, lowerjc@vuse.vanderbilt.edu
(J. Craig Lowery) writes:
> 
> 
> I've just gotten back to reading this group, so others may have already made
> my point...
> 
> Someone posted "Inner Light was a waste of celluloid." (Would attribute
> this to a PERSON if I could find the article.  1200 baud forces you to
> restrict your movements...)
> 
> There has been (and will always be) an going dicussion about how good/wimpy
> ST:TNG is.  I *DO* tend to find the episodes gratuitous towards the
> prevailing politically correct winds.  Often, the scripts are patronizing
> and, therefore, bland and uninteresting.
> 
> "The Inner Light" is an example of an episode where there was the
> potential to fall into that trap.  The writers sidestepped it, though,
> and produced a story comparable to a '50s or '60s sci-fi short story.
> It had a Bradbury touch, was eerie, and really made me feel as if
> Piccard had undergone a significant *personal* experience (rather than
> save the universe again).  The show managed to balance the
> all-too-often-overplayed "human issues" with an intriguing SF story.
From: kinnema@wkuvx1.bitnet (Mark Kinney, Attorney at Chaos)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Navy in Star Trek
Date: 12 Sep 92 14:52:52 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1992Sep11.183221.28035@menudo.uh.edu>, HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:
>  I think
> the idea of a "federation" was a semi-afterthought -- the pilot "Where No Man
> Has Gone Before" and (I think) "Balance of Terror" kept referring to "Earth
> bases" and "Earth colonies" and such.  Coulda been a network thing, though...
> (Kirk did say "United Star/Space Ship" at *least* once, though)
> 
That's okay. I remember the end of one episode (I wish I could
remember which one, though) where Kirk talks about "when we get back
to Space Central"

I kid you not. *SPACE CENTRAL*!?!?!?
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From: mwgertz+@cs.cmu.edu (Matthew Gertz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: DS9: Who will write? (was Re: DS9: Who will star?)
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:25:15 GMT
Organization: Dept. of ECE, The Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon

KELSEY@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (KELSEY, Michael H.) writes:
>In article <65271@cup.portal.com>, Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com says:
>>
>>Just to get it straight early on, the Avery Brooks character is spelled
>>"Sisko."
>>
>>PAD
>
>On a related topic, is there any chance we will get some _good_ writers
>for DS9, perhaps even Mr. David himself, as opposed to the current crop
>of Hollywood writers do TNG scripts?
>                                              -- Mike Kelsey


I dunno, Mike, the way the premise sounds to me, it seems ripe for 
soap-opera drama surpassing even that of TNG, with an aside
to sci-fi in the form of ubiquitous baddies emerging from the wormhole.
In that case, I can't good writers flocking to write for it.  I hope to
high heavens that I'm wrong, but there it is.  Y'know, the more I hear
about the type of writing that Paramount prefers to air, and some of
their reasons for rejecting scripts, the more unlikely I think it is that
really good writing will make it onto the show.  Even the best of TNG
were mostly action shows with a dabble of other stuff (BOBW, YE, QWho).
(Yes, "The Inner Light" was an exception, as were a couple others, but
even they had some nice plot holes.)  I'd like to see several authors
write for Trek, maybe even authors who've written Trek books.  I swore
off reading Trek books about three years back, but everyone has had
nice things to say about Peter David's books so maybe I've got to
get back into them and see what they're like -- they certainly sound
good, from what I've read on the jacket covers and heard here on r.a.s.c.

At any rate, maybe there'll be plenty of pseudo-military protocol in DS9 it 
for us to thrash out with everyone else, though, as in the past...  8^)
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Xref: sparky rec.arts.startrek:14993 rec.arts.tv.uk:5416
From: rkl@csc.liv.ac.uk (Richard Lloyd)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek,rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Don't buy a dish, miss out on ST:TNG, and see if I care
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:31:54 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University

In article <2418.imc@uk.ac.ox.prg>, imc@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Ian Collier) writes:

> Oh come on!  Just because you've got (and I quote a hoary old chestnut which
> I read in the Radio Times) a wok on the wall that gives you pie in the sky,
> that's no reason to deprive the rest of us.

I sense a bit of "I don't own a dish, therefore I'm superior" attitude (check
out the disgraceful Sam Brady on ITV's weekend teletext pages - he has the
same views as you). In fact, you are missing out on some "extra" TV (yes, a lot
of is crap, but then so is a lot of BBC 1 and ITV nowadays).

> I think the BBC *should* buy the rights to repeat the old episodes, and they
> should show them on BBC2 at 9.25pm on Wednesdays (just after M*A*S*H, which
> seems to have gone west yet again, just at the moment), unedited and
> including the banned episode.  You should give the BBC a chance to make up
> for its previous behaviour.

This would be *wonderful* if the BBC did this, but there's no chance on God's
earth they'll ever give a sci-fi series a prime-time slot. They're just a bunch
of censorous scumbags at the BBC ! What you suggest is well served by Sky One's
showings of ST:TNG and if you don't buy a dish or get cable, then that's your
loss. 159 pounds for a satellite dish isn't the end of the world.

Richard K. Lloyd, 
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From: fgodfrey@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Francis N. Godfrey)
Subject: Speed Zone
Originator: fgodfrey@rodan.acs.syr.edu
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 04:09:35 EDT



I am posting this for someone that doesn't have USEnet access.

Mail all replies to: ALDNY@CUNY.BITNET

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

To All Trekkies: 
         This is a general call out to all those with interest in the ways of
intergalatic travels. Question #1 What is the difference between Warp space
and Hyperspace? Question #2  what is the rational ratio on Warp speed (i.e.
Warp one, Warp two, etc. Is it expontentially based and to what degree? 
Question #3 Is Hyperspace a One speed affair or is it expotentially based too?
Question #4 For those ultra-fi fans; Remember Blakes Seven? What is the ratio of 
Speed standard times # as compared to Warp speed and Hyperspace ?
Remember I'll be looking space-bound for your replies.
From: sxr@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (scott.l.russell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: Re: Looking for a TNG Com Badge
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:15:30 GMT
Organization: AT&T

From article <8SEP199216293213@juliet.caltech.edu>, by cecilia@juliet.caltech.edu (Prof. Wagstaff):
> In article <715969872.9881@zooid.guild.org>, jordan@zooid.guild.org (Daniel Baker) writes...
>>>I was wondering where I could find a good quality ComBadge
>>>for a decent price. The Trek shop at the Smithsonian sells
>>>them for $18.00 (!!)
>>>	I really suspect they are gouging big time.
>>>Does anyone know of the going rate?
>>>				Thanks!
>>>					Jeff
>> 
>>I do not know if they are gouging, but I have seen both a full size and half
>>size on sale here Just north of Toronto.  For the full size one it was 18.95
>>Canadian dollars and the half size was 12.95 Canadian (plus any and all taxes)
>> 
>>Catch ya later dude,
>> 
>>Jorddan
> 
> At most conventions you can get a full size communicator for $15.00. 
> Smaller ones go for about $12.00.
> 
> Cecilia
===========================
I would guess that any of these prices are pretty good. I just saw them
being sold on QVC (shopping network) for $19.97!!

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From: dchuk@netcom.com (Denise Chuk)
Subject: Re: Bay Area Trek Stores
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 17:28:08 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

ph111-bx@violet.berkeley.edu (;;;;7202) writes:

>Does anyone know of a store in the San Francisco Bay Area that specializes
>in Star Trek stuff?  I know there was the Federation Trading Post on
>Telegraph in Berkeley, but that was like 15 years ago.  Has anything
>come along to replace it?

I may remember incorrectly, but I think Macys (Union Square) has a floor that
is dedicated to ST stuff.  You can call and ask them about it.

Happy treking!

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From: A410JACQ@HASARA11.BITNET (Jacqueline Cote)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: Re: ST fan clubs in Europe
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:13:04 GMT
Distribution: eunet,ch,local
Organization: SARA - Stichting Academisch Rekencentrum Amsterdam

There are several clubs in Europe that I know of (hey! I **RUN** one, but
that one's in Dutch). One of the bigger clubs is `STAG' in England, and
 
there are several German clubs as well. Please let me know your preferance.
 
JC
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From: jcomer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan C Comer)
Subject: Re: Patrick Steward returns to B'way this Xmas.
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 12:17:49 GMT

In article <92258.225221WITHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <WITHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>Patrick Steward return to the stage in his rendition of "A Christmas Carol"
>from December 15th through January 3rd from the Broadhurst Theatre, reported
>in the New York Daily News(9/14)

The Columbus (Ohio) Dispatch not only reported this, but also that Stewart has 
been given a 4 week leave from STTNG to do the show.  I don't know if this 
means he'll be conveniently "off ship" during episodes filmed during then, or 
whether production will shut down.

Jon
From: jweber@draco.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: Interest in newspaper reviews of Smithsonian exhibit?
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:15:25 GMT
Organization: Rutgers University RUCS-Newark

Over this past weekend, my sister found two articles reviewing the
Smithsonian exhibit.  One is from the March 3, 1992 New York Times (p. C13),
the other is from the Jun 14, 1992 Central New Jersey Home News (p. C11), but 
it's a syndicated column from the Boston Globe.

If there is enough interest, I will post the articles, here on
r.a.s.fandom and on other r.a.s. groups if you guys feel it's 
appropriate.  (I welcome comments as to which groups, e.g. r.a.s.current/
misc/info, *are* appropriate.)

Please e-mail any responses to:

jodiweber@attmail.com

NOT the above address (I *rarely* check that account anymore, and may miss
your responses).

By the way, I saw the exhibit last month, and definitely recommend it if
you're in the D.C. area.

Jodi
From: devaneyb@elmer1.bobst.nyu.edu (Bob Devaney)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: HOLOGRAM CARD FOR TRADE
Date: 14 Sep 92 02:03:13 GMT
Organization: NYU Bobst Library



I've been collecting these Next Generation cards and wound up with a 
duplicate of hologram card 1H (the Klingon Bird of Prey).  I am also
lacking hologram number 3H (the Romulan Warbird).  Anybody out there
got an extra Romulan Warbird hologram and in need of the Bird of Prey?
If so, let's set up a trade.  E-mail me!

devaneyb@elmer1.bobst.nyu.edu
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From: paradis@ERA.COM (Lisa Berkenbilt)
Subject: How to preregister for convention in Baltimore
Organization: Engineering Research Associates, Vienna, VA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:39:43 GMT


How does one preregister for October trek 1992 in Hunt Valley, MD?
The information number has a machine but they only return calls once a
week, I just got the information about this yesterday, and
preregisteration ends in less than a week.

-- 
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paradis@ERA.COM                           
				PICARD/RIKER '92
From: tegammk@prism.gatech.EDU (Mike Kazmierczak)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: TNG Com badge
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:34:42 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


 The above titled item can be bought from Wireless, a company which sells
things from tv and radio. The badge is $16.50 +$4.35 shipping.
write Minnesota Public Radio
Box 64422
St. Paul, MN 55164-0422

or call 1-800-669-9999 24 hrs/7 days to order. Get the catalog as they have 
a lot of neat stuff.


-- 
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