Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.oop.misc,comp.sys.mac.programmer
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From: ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik)
Organization: Odyssey Ultraware, Inc
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 03:18:40 CDT
Subject: Re: Summary: I'm faint! I just saw the price for MPW!


Organization: Apple Computer Inc.
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.oop.misc,comp.sys.mac.programmer

Organization: (Evil Eye Creature from Mars, Inc.)

In article <lsr-221292105437@lsr.taligent.com>, lsr@taligent.com (Larry
Rosenstein) wrote:
> In article <1992Dec22.070755.13175@netcom.com>, nagle@netcom.com (John
> Nagle) wrote:
> > and in order to protect them you may not decompile, reverse engineer, 
> > disassemble, or otherwise reduce the Software to a human-perceivable form.
> 
> I don't have any CDs around to see what the situation is today.  I do know
> that MacApp is not on the Developer CD.  And the versions of the MacApp
> license that I've seen doesn't place any of those restrictions.
 
> Also, all the Tech Notes and DTS Sample Code I've seen has carried an
> explict statement that you can use this and distribute it, provided you do
> not sell it.

Here's the vital part concerning restrictions of Dev. CD use, in
the TeachText file up in the left corner:
2.	RESTRICTIONS.  The Software and Materials contain copyrighted material,
trade secrets and other proprietary material and in order to protect them
you may not decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble or otherwise reduce
the Software and Materials to a human-perceivable form.  You may not
modify, rent, lease, loan, distribute or create derivative works based upon
the Software and Materials in whole or in part.  You may make only as many
copies of the Software and Materials as are reasonably necessary to
effectuate the permitted uses of the Software and Materials as stated in
Section 1.  However, with one exception, you may use, copy, modify and
incorporate into your own programs the Software and Materials found in the
develop folder within the Periodicals folder, provided you reproduce on
each copy the Apple copyright notice and any other proprietary legends that
were on the original copy of the Software. The exception to this is the
Software and Materials for The NetWork Project article in Issue 11 of
develop, which are copyright 1989-1992 The NetWork Project, StatLab
Heidelberg and are for personal, noncommercial use only.

As Larry stated, you could use, copy, modify and incorporate into
your application sample code from the develop folder. I agree that the
statement does not clearly state that the snippets also belong to this 
category, but this is the case as well. So I will talk with the people
downstairs making sure that this is also included to the license in 
future.

As for MacApp, as I know we don't place any restrictions on people
extending
the framework, but we want to control who is porting over the whole 
framework to another platform, and we could make a deal concerning this
as well, so it's not totally verboten.

All in all, I do think we are overstating the issue, really. If someone
really believes that we are sending out lawyers if they copy in code
from DTS.Lib, then I'm afraid we live in a scary society.

Kent
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