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Subject: .
From: <VABHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Friday, 22 Jan 1993 15:05:14 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

Ha-ha, vot opyat' cheshuyu zdes' rasprostranyayu. Hottsa cho-to takova

otchibuchit' ot dushi, da netu sil v set' vlezt'. Potomu divu dayus',

zachem vu stol' mnogo prostranstva v seti ispisyvaete. Davalsya ya divu, davals
ya, da i reshil sam pozagazhivat' mesto v seti. Dumayu daj-ko pozagazhivayu
yamesto v seti, a tam vidno budet.

Inogda chitaesh' kaku-nibud' cheshuyu v seti, i tak nastroenie  eto vse

delo uluchshaet, chto hot' poj gimn velikomu gorodu i sovetrskomu soyuzu.

da ladno uzh, konchayu, zhdu vashih rechej.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: LANDSBERG@sbhep2.phy.sunysb.edu (Greg Landsberg)
Subject: Re: Need help on Odessa addresses!
Organization: SUNY at Stony Brook
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:32:32 GMT
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In <93025.103213BAV2@psuvm.psu.edu> Boris writes:

> In article <1993Jan24.195645.4222@socrates.umd.edu>, okner@socrates.umd.edu
> (Benjamin Okner) says:
> >
> >I searched the list for Odessa
> >addresses and sent a message to 5 Odessa internet addresses.  These were:
> >
> >        postmaster@iitc.odessa.ua
> >        ...
> >Each message was returned almost immediately with "Returned mail: User 
> >unknown"
> >
> To address mail to RELCOM sites you must remember that it is relayed through
> Finland, and you should tell this to mailer. It is done easily by '%' method.
> For example to send post to postmaster@ics.odessa.ua you must just type
> in the From:_line: postmaster%ics.odessa.ua@relay.ussr.eu.net.

Your  advice is  irrelevant. Most of  the  servers nowadays  are capable of
decoding the direct Internet address  of Russian sites. Ben told us that he
got  "User  unknown"  error,  which  means  that  the  message  REACHED the
DESTINATION node (unless he has some very weird server). In the case his
server doesn't resolve address he'd have got something like "Unknown node"
or "Unresolved address" error.

Greg
From: Ruslan <ruslan@ars.udmurtia.su>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: ZAGADKA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 15:44:35 +0400
Distribution: world
Organization: Scientific & Production Firm ARSENAL
Reply-To: ruslan@ars.udmurtia.su

>   bullsh@bull.bull.fr (Tol') writes:
>
>   > Nu razve eto zagadka.
>   >Poprobuite otgadat' vot eti, iz zhurnalov
>   >Vesiolye Kartinki i Murzilka.
>   >Use rot-13 to get the answers.
>
>   >         4. Pozhmesh' v ruke nemnozhko -
>   >            Stanet tverdoi kak kartoshka.
>   >
>   >                          Farmubx

              5. Chto ty smotrish' na menya
                 Razdewajsya, ya twoya!

                               Krowatx.


--- 

 Internet: ruslan@ars.udmurtia.su  FIDO: 2:5050/7.9 Ruslan Grabar
From: vinita@redbird.pa.dec.com (Vinita Bhatia)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Survey of international students
Date: 25 Jan 93 07:11:00 GMT
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This is a request for help in a survey of facilities provided to internation
students on different campuses.  I need the information for a class project.

I will appreciate you sharing your experiences of the International Students
Offices in your university with me.  Please let me know of any program that
you thought was useful to you when you joined the school.  Also, if you felt
there was something for which you really needed help and was not addressed
before or after you joined the school.

Thanks for your help.

Vinita
-- 
Vinita Bhatia
vinita@redbird.umsl.edu
From: samborsky@skyfox
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Cyrillic font module for 'Word'?
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:11:39 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
NNTP-Posting-Host: sask.usask.ca

Hello!
     Does anyone know of any font modules for Microsoft Word which include
Cyrillic characters?
     If so, could I get the particulars on them so I could order one?

Thank you.    Mark       samborsky@sask.usask.ca
From: HAUGLAND@NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU (Laurie Haugland)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Travelling to Russia
Date: 28 Jan 93 03:55:31 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU>

When I was in college, all students travelling to Russia wanted to take Levis,
nylon stockings and Beatles tapes to barter with.  Are these items still
so popular or is this a kind of out-of-date approach?
From: pv02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (PETER VOROBIEFF)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Moya militsya menya berezhyot (Was: Crime and punishment/CH(G
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:53:12 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1993Jan26.030217.8627@news.nd.edu>, alexei@cartan.math.nd.edu (Alex Strouwe) writes:
>
> Gospoda,
>
>After the long discussion about Crime, I think we should talk a little bit  
>about Punishment.
>
>I'd like to know what do you think of cops here and "mentah" there.

Well... Menty ZARAZY! And the cops are usually very reasonable and
polite. If U R not in NJ, however. But even there they are not VERY
nasty, there are simply too many of them with radars on the road...

-- 
---
Thus spake Kalmoth the Dreaded, Bane of the Forests of Gnoy.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: LANDSBERG@sbhep2.phy.sunysb.edu (Greg Landsberg)
Subject: Re: Moya militsya menya berezhyot (Was: Crime and punishment/CH(G
Organization: SUNY at Stony Brook
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 05:38:49 GMT
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In <1993Jan27.002421.86230@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> pv02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu writes:

> 
> BTW, here the Soviet driver's license (especially one in Russian) may
> prove very helpful. U show it 2 the cop who is going 2 write U a
> speeding ticket and start talking about politics or the I-have-just-
> arrived-in-your-marvelous-country stuff. Sometimes it helps the cop 2
> 4give U the violation. Usually they are not mean here, and feel 
> pity 2 a stranger.
> 

Soviet  drivers license  really helps here.  But it has  nothing to do with
cops "feeling  pity" and almost  absolutely irrelevant  to what you tell to
the cop. It has  to do with the fact  that they just  don't know what to do
with  international license.  They can't  enter it in the  computers - they
have to get  you to the  police department  and all this  crap. Most of the
cops just don't want to waste the time on such a paperwork and pain in ass.
Why to do this when within 5 minutes he'll stop someone with US licence and
will joyfully make his dirty job!

That's why the soviet licence is very popular among short term (say, half a
year or so) soviet visitors, even if they have valid US license.

I never  used one,  but I know  a lot of  people who  got rid  of fines and
tickets by  showing it  to cop,  sometimes just  with some  phrase like ``I
SPEAK NO ENGLISH.''

Gol' na vidumki hitra...

Cheers,

Greg
From: shimkevi@acs.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Crime and punishment/CH(G)...
Date: 23 Jan 93 18:03:14 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <ALEXEEV.93Jan22220306@solitude.math.utah.edu> alexeev@math.utah.edu (Valery A. Alexeev) writes:
>On 23 Jan 93 01:13:52 GMT, pv02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (PETER VOROBIEFF) adds:

>> (didinsky garry) writes:
>>>Can anyone express personal impressions/comparisons of individual safety in 
>>>Russia and US?

Well, I remember the F******o village near Kaluga. In every second household
someone either was in prison or has been there. A typical story: a grown-up
son comes to his father and demands money for vodka. The father answers with
a string of expletives. The son goes into the backyard, takes an axe and
splits his dad's head in two.

As for individual safety, it looks like in the US there are safe areas and
areas that should be avoided. There is no such distinction in Moscow (although
crime rates do vary according to the neighbourhood).

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
// Ryan: What is it to you, demon?       //// Sergei Shimkevich             //
// Lune: It is Sir, Demon to you, worm!  //// shimkevi@acs.bu.edu           //
// -Phantasy Star III                    //// shimkevich@A1.tch.harvard.edu //
From: sergei@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu (Sergei Borodin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Moya militsya menya berezhyot (Was: Crime and punishment/CH(G
Date: 27 Jan 93 03:51:17 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1993Jan27.002421.86230@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> pv02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (PETER VOROBIEFF) writes:
>In article <106643@netnews.upenn.edu>, sergei@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu (Sergei Borodin) writes:

>BTW, here the Soviet driver's license (especially one in Russian) may
>prove very helpful. 

  Right. But you can't tell the story (I'm-just-arrived)
  for two years. Besides, in most states you're required
  to obtain a valid state licence within a couple of months.
  (I know of PA, IL, and CA)

>Thus spake Kalmoth the Dreaded, Bane of the Forests of Gnoy.

 S.B.
From: bullsh@bull.bull.fr (Tol')
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.russia
Subject: Re: ZAGADKA
Date: 23 Jan 93 19:13:15 GMT
Reply-To: No reply
Followup-To: soc.culture.russia


 Nu razve eto zagadka. 


Poprobuite otgadat' vot eti, iz zhurnalov
Vesiolye Kartinki i Murzilka. 
Use rot-13 to get the answers.

          1. Krasnaia golovka
	     Rabotaet lovko.
	     
	                   Qlngry.
			   
	  2. Belaya prostynia -
	     Dva chasa udovol'stvia.
	                   
	                   Xvab
	  
	  3. Tuda, siuda, obratno -
	     Tebe i mne priatno.
	     
	                   Xnpuryv
	    
	  4. Pozhmesh' v ruke nemnozhko -
	     Stanet tverdoi kak kartoshka.
	     
	                   Farmubx
From: sasha@LDGO.COLUMBIA.EDU (Alexander Krupitsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: What does "sanatsiya" mean?
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:47:40 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU>

Apparently Russian language develops quite quickly in 90-s. Three
years ago I understood it very well. Not anymore. Yesterday I was
reading a text where the word "sanation" ("sanatsiya") was used not in a
dental context but was meant to be some part of the enterprise
reorganization process as a result of bankruptcy. Could anybody
provide a synonym which I would understand or explain what it is
supposed to mean?

                   Sasha
From: pscotto@MtHolyoke.edu (Peter J. Scotto)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Question about Russian word "fosfat"
Date: 27 Jan 1993 17:06:52 -0500
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
NNTP-Posting-Host: slab.mtholyoke.edu
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Do  anyone out there in netland know whether Russian "fosfat"
was ever used as English "phosphate" sometimes was, that is
to mean "an effervescent drink of carbonated water with a small
amount of phosphoric acid or an acid phosphate flavored with
fruit syrup" (in other words "soda").

--Peter Scotto
From: BAV2@psuvm.psu.edu (Boris A. Veytsman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Mail to Russia. Shit!
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:59:54 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

In article <107844@bu.edu>, gdr@acs.bu.edu (Dmitry Goldenberg) says:
>
>I just received a letter from a friend in St.Petersburg. He says he just
>recently received mine, which was sent to him last summer.
>
>My letter was sent to my friend from Moscow by a truck driver whose name is
>A.Zakharov. He found a huge pile of opened letters from abroad in a garbage
>lot and mailed off all he could.
>
>Thank God there are still good people like this guy in Russia but I was really
>pissed off by those assholes that open people's letters searching for enclosed
>dollars (?!) and finally dumping them all. I heard the rumors of that a while
>ago
>but I couldn't believe such a blatant (and stupid) thing could be actually
>happening. However, with Sovok (even renamed in Russia) you never get tired of
>its new surprises.
>
>I guess for many sovoks it's a golden time now: they never cared for such
>luxuries as elementary ethics, and now they can even stop pretending they
>have any brakes in their rotten minds. They enjoy their newly attained freedom-
>freedom to fall as low as they want.

I agree with Dmitry. Of course, postal clercs are desperate and poor;
one can understand this, but what they do is abominable.

And advice to those who want their letters delivered. Convince
postal clerks that there are no $$ in it. To do this make yor letter
official-looking. Use stationery from your work (envelopes with
return address of your university/company printed on them).
Never write address by hand - only printer! (Preferably good
laser one). Never do this in Cyrillic!

I checked this - it helps!

-Boris
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From: J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.misc
Subject: Re: Ignorants from Kiev follow ignorants from Tallinn
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:18:58 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0b1@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <93027.100308BAV2@psuvm.psu.edu>
BAV2@psuvm.psu.edu (Boris A. Veytsman) writes:

> Dear netters!  We must counter-attack!  Let the American netters write to
> their Congressmen urging them to pass a law on Ukrainian spelling and
> prononciation!  The Ukrainians must say and write 'state [TEksas]',
> '[KhAdsonova protoka]', 'state [MishIgen]' etc!  Let the British netters
                                  ^^^^^^^^
Actually it's "MISH-i-gen"
> urge their Parliament and Queen!  The Ukrainians must say and write '[Landn,
> yakyy ye stolytsya Inglendu]'!  Dear French, Austrian, Italian and Portugal
> netters!  Would not it be pleasant for you to hear [Pari, Vin, Rom, 
                                                                 ^^^
This one's 'Roma'
Lizhbon]
'Lisboa' according to my sources
^^^^^^^
> from a passing-by Ukrainian?
> 
> It's time for action!

What about the capital of Turkmenistan, which changed its name from
"Ashkhabad" to "Ashgabat"?


--Ted Schuerzinger
email: .zed@Dartmouth.EDU
"I should have known it would be bad vodka when all the label said was
'Russian Vodka'."
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:12414 talk.politics.soviet:10731
From: alexei@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Alexei Moiseyev)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Chill!
Date: 25 Jan 93 00:20:22 GMT
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK

I remembered a couple of old jokes.  One dates back from my school
days in Russia; the other is from my school days in England:

1).Sidit Vasili Ivanovitch v izbe, vdrug zakhodit Pet'ka:
-Oh, poidu I sosnu, Vasili Ivanovitch.
-Nu sosni, Pet'ka, sosni...

-Da net, Ia v smysle polezhu!
-Nu polezhi, Pet'ka, polezhi...

2). Two nuns were sitting on a bench,
Suddenly, a naked man ran past them.
One had a stroke;
But the other couldn't reach.
                                                Chill, everyone,
                                                             A.M-T.
From: muh@physics2 (Yury M. Mukharsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: HARM missile for sale (real bargain)
Date: 27 Jan 1993 07:10:45 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics2.berkeley.edu

In article <C1Hz79.LM0@max.physics.sunysb.edu> LANDSBERG@sbhep2.phy.sunysb.edu (Greg Landsberg) writes:
>
	I have one for  sale! Really cheap!  I can deliver it  within 20 minutes to
	any place within NY Metropolitan area. Sorry, no COD...
>
	Get closer, send check or money order and wire your coordinates ASAP!

Should not I buy radar and life insurance first?

Yury M.
From: q06467@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de (Enri Konradi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: >help
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:10:12 GMT
Organization: Uni Paderborn FB 17 Informatik GERMANY
NNTP-Posting-Host: pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de
Keywords: Pjatigorsk e-mail adresses

 Hier is the adresses your looked for :

1)
	Pjatigorsk
	postmaster@fomi.pyatigorsk.su
	Firma "Fomi-Serwis"

2)
	Pjatigorsk
	postmaster@impuls.pyatigorsk.su
	Factory "Impuls"

3)
	Pjatigorsk
	postmaster@skfgvc.pyatigorsk.su
	Computer Minenergo USSR

Have a nice E-Mailing  :)

===============================================================================
Konadi Enri					! "Gore! Maly' ja ne sil'nu'.
e-mail: q064672pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de		! S'est ypur' menja sowsem!"
Phone : there isn't any 			!
 						!	A.B.Strygatskie
From: muh@physics2 (Yury M. Mukharsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Crime and punishment/CH(G)...
Date: 24 Jan 1993 06:11:16 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics2.berkeley.edu

In article <1jsp4iINN8kc@shelley.u.washington.edu> nobby@stein.u.washington.edu (Vitaly Shmatikov) writes:
>
>NYC without a tinge of doubt. I rode NYC subway many times, occasionally
>as late as 2am, and hardly felt any jeopardy. When in Moscow "metro", one 
>should be always prepared to confront a pack of leather-clad fellows requesting 
I like it. Notice this "I rode" and "one should always be prepared". 
Was you attacked? My very very very limited experience in NYC and not-so-limited
exp. in Moscow (but two years ago) and in Berkeley, including nights are both negative:
no attacks. My opinion is that I would not left my car unattended on the 
street at night in Moscow (would I have one there), but I would not be much
affraid to walk at night whereever. Opposite for America. (Some people will
definetely say that both leaving the car here and strolling at night there
is foolish. Maybe.)

Actually what you may get from opinion of people on the net is mostly personal
luck, possibly dependent on one's face, weight etc...

One story, one of x-Soviets guys here had farther visiting him from Israel.
This old man was trying to persuade me that it's impossible to walk on street
of Moscow after 5 pm. This was couple of week after we came from there. He was
quite convinced. On the question what the situation with terrorism in Israel,
he answered only "Well, it's temporary...". 

>
>Since I can barely conjure up a situation that would necessitate 
>one's presence on the 125th street after the dusk, the scary

Isn't it were Columbia U located? Boy, I would love to get a job there. Just
imagine, no working after a dusk.

>
>America beyond inner cities is not even worth talking about. My own
>experience is that in countryside Russia after 5pm it's an arduous task
>to find a sober male who is older than 14. Juxtapose it and any American 
>suburb. 

Again, I love it. Just compare American prison and concert in the Chaikovsky
Hall, and you may judge for yourself.

In fact, if one excludes inner city ghettos from the statistics, 
>the American crime situation appears quite decent.

Yury M.
From: sergei@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu (Sergei Borodin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Moya militsya menya berezhyot (Was: Crime and punishment/CH(G
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:20:31 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1k5cda$405@agate.berkeley.edu> muh@physics2 (Yury M. Mukharsky) writes:
>In article <106748@netnews.upenn.edu> sergei@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu (Sergei Borodin) writes:
>>  Right. But you can't tell the story (I'm-just-arrived)
>>  for two years. Besides, in most states you're required
>>  to obtain a valid state licence within a couple of months.
>>  (I know of PA, IL, and CA)

>Your knowledge is wrong. 

  Let's see. 

>You may use license issued by your other country or state as long as they aree
>valid in that country or state (CA driver's handbook). It is widely spread
>misunderstanding.

 First, the above mentioned CA driver's handbook talks about 
 INTERNATIONAL driver licenses, as an example a US intnl
 driver license is written on some 20 languages. If we take
 our "Permis de condeur" then your old "komsomol'skii bilet"
 wouldn't be worse. Besides, how do you tell a cop that it's
 not been expired ("deistvitel'no do"). However, I agree that
 for short period of time it works.

 Next. Residents of CA are required (under threat of not a small
 fine) to exchange out of state driver licenses within 10 days
 from arival. People are considered as residents if: a) their
 kids are attended to school, b) they rent an appartment, and
 some other stuff.
 Besides all I said, I'd look at you when you'll try to insure
 your car having "international" driver license (even out of
 state won't work - tried).

 Of course, the reason a cop won't bother you (as Greg correctly
 pointed out) is that there is no point to give you a ticket
 since you won't pay it, 'coz you have no record - no nothing :-).
 And, btw, no insurance (short term "komandirovochnye" usually
 are provided with paid off and insured car), which premium
 increase is the main reason to pay a ticket.

>Yury M.

  S.B.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: didinsky@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (didinsky garry)
Subject: Re: Crime and punishment/CH(G)...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 16:49:29 GMT

muh@physics2 (Yury M. Mukharsky) writes:
>affraid to walk at night whereever. Opposite for America. (Some people will
>definetely say that both leaving the car here and strolling at night there
>is foolish. Maybe.)

I don't completely understand, when you say America do you mean America or
do you mean NYC or Berkeley?  I agree with your "Opposite for America." 
My impression, since we are working with impressions, is that it is safe to 
leave your car on the streets, in America, but could be more dangerous to
walk the streets.

>Actually what you may get from opinion of people on the net is mostly personal
>luck, possibly dependent on one's face, weight etc...

Back to the stories I hear (and you are probably getting impression that I 
hear too much), a lot of them are about these big guys, often some boxers,
being beaten up.  But then, those stories are also mafia related :-)

>One story, one of x-Soviets guys here had farther visiting him from Israel.
>This old man was trying to persuade me that it's impossible to walk on street
>of Moscow after 5 pm. This was couple of week after we came from there. He was
>quite convinced. On the question what the situation with terrorism in Israel,
>he answered only "Well, it's temporary...". 

Most people that have visited Israel say that it is very safe there. My 
girlfriend felt that one of the great things about Israel is that one does
not have to worry about children playing somewhere from dawn to dusk.

---Garik.