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From: smith@acpy01.att.com (Bob Smith (CXNIXPT1))
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Subject: Rascals: How did their clothes change size?
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:51:47 GMT
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How did the clothes change size when they became children and then adults?
Was there n electronic tailor hiding in the background?
When they showed how the plants had changed, the pots they were in didn't
change size.

It would have been better to have the children characters materialize
in the transporter with full-sized clothes hanging from their small frames.
But then again, there were so many inconsistencies
with this episode that one more shouldn't matter. ;')

Bob Smith
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From: runyan@cup.hp.com (Mark Runyan)
Subject: Re: Rascals: Have a heart?
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:47:58 GMT
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Charles Hessenius (CH8305A@auvm.american.edu) wrote:
>     Picard's artificial heart does present a poser.  While I've
>never been one to let the techo-babble get in the way of a good
>story (and Rascal's was not THE worst), Dr. Crusher's genetic message
>inserted into the transport beam MAY have caused Picard to have a new
>human heart IF they rapidly aged in a normal but accelerated way in
>the beam.  

  At first, I thought you had one, but it isn't a problem.  The energy
field masked sequences and caused the current body to be returned as
a child.  It did not add/delete anything, just reversed the aging
process.  In other words, the young Picard's heart must have been
just as artificial (it had no age) as the older Picard's heart.  A
new heart was not regenerated during the original transporter beam
across because their bodies were not regrown from scratch, they were
merely shifted.
  Now, does the size of the heart matter (i.e. does the heart grow
considerable between 12 years old and Picard's age/size).  This doesn't
matter as much if the artificial heart that was put into Picard was
smaller than a normal heart to begin with.  Since no problem arose
with regard to his chest organs, we can assume that the artificial
heart is smaller and can easily fit in a 12 year old body.  Ain't
24th century technology wonderful?

Mark Runyan  {r.a.s. random rationalizer}
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From: bdennen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Dennen)
Subject: Patrick Stewart on Broadway - Question
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Quite a while ago, I saw a post about Patrick Stewart doing "A Christmas
Carol" on Broadway again this year. I sent in for tickets and have not 
heard back from them yet. I've called, and they said that I do not have
tickets... yet.

Anyone else getting the run-around?


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From: YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: Cloaking devices (Spoilers) Rascals
Organization: Yale University
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 21:29:31 EST

In article <1992Nov7.055857.23693@netcom.com>
moe@netcom.com (Morris Bisted) writes:
 
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>Spoilers for Rascals
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>Now that the Enterprise has caught 2 Bird of Prey, hopefully the
>Federation will have the forethought to try and figure out how this
>technology works.  Then we won't repeatedly be pummeled with the
>tired plot device of the Bird of Prey de-cloaking in front of the
>Enterprise while its shields are down and immediately
>blasting away causing the injury of the enterprise and requisite
>heroic acts and "victory snatched from the jaws of defeat" endings
>that this theme has brought about.
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>But no!!  The Federation has only had knowledge and actual possession
>of the cloaking device since Kirk stole it in TOS (Did IBM get the
>development contract or what?).
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>Morris
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   Not only in TOS "The Enterprise Incident", but also in STIV:TVH when they
took not only the cloaking device, but an entire Bird of Prey itself.
   On the other hand, in an aborted scene to STVI:TUC, there was to be a
scene showing Scotty at Starfleet Academy trying to see how the cloaking
device worked, but he and his research assistants could not understand the
principles of the cloaking device.
    Junsok Yang
 
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From: gvelden@ccs.northeastern.edu (George E Van Dervelden)
Subject: Rascals: What a Joke!
Organization: College of CS, Northeastern U
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 03:04:18 GMT



Well, what an episode! Surely Rascals was the best of TNG ever. NOT!

I can not believe what I have seen. This episode was an absolute disgrace.
How in the Galaxy can the flagship of the Federation, who single-handedly
damaged 70% of a Borg ship in 'Q Who', fought 3 BoPs and destroyed one
in 'Yesterday's Enterprise', and was prepared to destroy a Ferengi
Marauder in 'Menage a Trois", be defeated so easily?

I guess ship's security was on vacation when the ship was boarded. The
same security that train against invincible opponents in the
Holodeck (Code of Honor) and kidnap a member of the Borg crew (BOBWII).

What ever happened to photon torpedos and maybe even the utilization
of the main deflector? No, I can't blame it on Riker, I have to blame
the writers who apparently can't think of a good plot to render the
Enterprise helpless. A plot could have 2 BoPs and a Marauder. With the
Enterprise firing back until shield loss. I would also blame the producers
who apparently are too cheap too add a few new FX and only used recycled
clips.

I guess when Picard became smaller his cloths also went through that change
as well as his artificial heart. Oh well, sorry to be complaining for all
Die Hard fans who don't like to read criticisms but I just had to get
this off my chest. I hope we will learn in the future what happened to the
two BoPs. I think its time for more FX and maybe a little more aggresion
on the part of the E. Up to now the Enterprise has never fought a major
battle, other than in BOBW and not counting 'Yesterday's Enterprise'. Anyway,
may the force be with the writers of TNG.
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Subject: Re: ---< Fistful o' Datas >--- Synopis & *S*
From: mneylon@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Michael Neylon)
Date: 11 Nov 92 08:30:37 EST
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hillel@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (hillel.e.markowitz) writes:
: In article <1992Nov10.073856.11079@uoft02.utoledo.edu> mneylon@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Michael Neylon) writes:
: >I'd reckon there be spoilers here,....sir
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: >Troi and Worf discuss the plans for the shutout, when Annie returns with
: >parts that Worf requested.  Within 1.5 hrs, Worf creates, from a
: >communicator, a very temporary shield that should block one bullet from
: >Mr. Hollander, but only one.  They leave for the shoot out.
: >
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: .
: 
: >The streets are mighty empty as the son and Worf get to their predefined spot.
: >Mr. Hollander enters, with Alex, and stares intently.  Worf releases the
: >son, Hollander Alex, but in mid-path, Hollander draws and yells at his son
: >to duck.  Worf quickly activates his shield which reflects the 6 shots from
:                                                                 ^^^^^^
: 
: THis makes its own comment on the quality of the writing and the
: editing.

Hey, give me a break....I write this AS I WATCH THE SHOW, and I usually
forget to proofread my work.  Also, I have to second guess myself sometimes
( I though the shield might actually block one shot...who knew ).  
Remember, Im not doing this so that I knock Tim's out o the picture, this is
only a service for the few that would like to know what the heck is going
on  in the episode.  And, no , I dont have a VCR either, so I really cant
double check all the plot elements. :)
: 
: BTW, was calling Troi "Trio" deliberate (for a grin) or just a typo?
: 
Yep, just a mistake.  I DO know how to spell Troi (see! its T-R-O-I-.....ummm.
....E?)


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From: thogek@cco.caltech.edu (Thomas G. Kiefer)
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Subject: Re: Picard's Aunt Odell and Continuity
Date: 12 Nov 1992 23:23:53 GMT
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In article <1992Nov12.185503.17096@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> lgraham@aldo.srnr.arizona.edu (Lee Graham) writes:
>The only problem with the Aunt Adele continuity reference is that Bev
>should not remember Picard's aunt's drink, since she was given the
>drink during one of the unremembered time loop sequences in Cause and
>Effect.  At the end of that loop, all was forgotten and new time
>events sequences were gone through, but she never had the hot milk
>drink, or even private discussion with Picard in any of them.
>Maybe they're getting together at night drinking warm milk on other
>occasions, but given TNG's stiff attitudes about the fraternizing
>too chummily, I would doubt it.

And she's never had or heard of the drink since then?  Anytime after
"Cause and Effect"... say, between episodes somewhere?

(C'mon; they shouldn't have to spoon-feed us *everything*.)
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From: hrsn@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Daniel Harrison)
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Subject: SPOILERS Rascals: Riker should be shot.
Summary: Riker should be court-martialed
Keywords: Rascals Riker
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:11:13 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

Spolier for Rascals. I've never posted anything with spoilers in it
so don't flame me if this goes wrong.

Again?

The Ferengi take over the Enterprise? It was ridiculously easy. Riker
manages to fire off *one* phaser shot that does some piddling damage,
but the Ferengi blast away, destroy the shields and start boarding. 
Apparently, they take over the ship within seconds.

Worf? expert marksman... MISSES the Ferengi on the bridge, but gets
blasted himself.

If a couple dozen Iraqis had taken over the carrier Independence in like
fashion, there would be court-martials aplenty.

Riker, to the brig.

Daniel Harrison
hrsn@uhura.cc.rochester.edu

And to think that in Yesterday's Enterprise, they showed more fight. (But
then again, on Darmok, they reverted to military incompetence... Go figure.)

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Subject: Kiddie Clothing *Rascals SPOILER*
From: jbarron@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:34:34 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City



Just thought I would try and point out a few things for those who are still
not convinced that the children changed clothes after shrinking.  If any of my
facts are incorrect,  mail me if you feel the need.   It is just a tv show.


1.  The first thing I recall is a line of Ro's that said something to the
effect that she would like her own uniform back, and tugged at her collar. 
This is from memory, so please forgive.  
2.  The reason that you didn't notice the size difference in Picard's suit
while he was on the transporter waiting to be enlarged, I am guessing, was 
that the boy who played the young Picard was almost as tall as Picard him-
self.  I had asked myself this question, and made some height comparisons.
The boy was as tall as Troi, and I have a feeling that the height difference 
between young P. and Riker was exaggerated by the camera angle.  On the
transporter pad, P.'s pants are a little baggy, and the shirt is not as snug
as it usually is.  

Just a few things I noticed,   Thanks
Jen

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From: liebea@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Adam Fred Lieberman)
Subject: Re: Holodeck Programming
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 09:03:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.224444.3794@wkuvx1.bitnet> pattecd@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>
>     Okay, what would happen if someone, let's say Geordi, went into
>the holodeck and asked it to recreate the current Enterprise
>(NCC-1701-D).  Then, he goes aboard THAT Enterprise, and does the same
>thing, and he does this, say, 20 times.  Now, let's have each
>Enterprise on a totally different mission.  What could possibly
>happen?

     Good idea.  I actually thought of this sort of thing before you posted
your article.  Of course, one could program the computer to provide all the
devices needed to navigate through multiple levels of unreality.  One would
need some verbal escape sequences to control whether the real or simulated
computer intercepts your commands.
     Of course, on board a starship, one must ALWAYS be able to tell whether
a situation requiring attention is real or simulated.  This goes vigntuply
for your example.  In fact, one of the first things I've realized about
virtual reality in general is that one must have a system for recognizing
real emergency situations regardless of what simulated emergency situations
may occur.  Every room needs a fire exit.

					-Adam Liebeman
					 liebea@rpi.edu
From: mwalker@novell.com (Mel Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: ** SPOILERS ** Rascals -- the new all-time trek low
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:26:23 GMT
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In article <1992Nov10.183044.1@vms.cis.pitt.edu> TJ Wood,
tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu writes:
>Do you think the Klingons will buy this "non-aligned" Ferengi BS?  Or
will
>they wipe those "monkey-boys" off the face of the galaxy?  At least, will
>the Klingons extradite them and make them stand trial for stealing
Klingon
>ships?

They were surplus ships, probably refitted with Ferengi weaponry. _This_,
at least, isn't a plot hole.

--Mel Walker
mwalker@novell.com
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From: Alice.Cramer <Alice.Cramer@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Re: Keiko/Rosiland Chao trivia ?
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:20:20 GMT

In <Nov.9.15.55.21.1992.15680@gandalf.rutgers.edu> finifter@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Tracy E. Finifter) writes:

>sstephen@us.oracle.com writes:

>>Quick note, while reading through List of lists for STNG and STDSN, posted by
>>mholtz@sactoh0.sac.ca.us :

>>Also, does anyone know about Rosiland Chao ? 
>>The last name is probably Chinese, but not likely to be Japanese.  (Don't flame
>>me, it seems perfectly acceptable to have a Brit play a Frenchman (Picard) --
>>I'm just curious about the actress.

>Rosiland Chao (sp?) is indeed of Chinese, not Japanese, descent.

>>From my reference books, Rosiland Chao had major roles in "The Terry Fox Story"
>>and "White Ghost" (1988, William Cat as Rambo -> turkey).  Looks like she might
>>get more exposure in ST:DSN.

>Don't forget that she played Soon-Lee (I think that was her name), Max
>Klinger's Korean wife during the last season of M*A*S*H and in AfterM*A*S*H.

She was also in a VERY GOOD movie called "1000 Pieces of Gold" or something
like that.  I saw it on PBS a few months ago.  I think it was a couple of
years old.  It was about a Chinese women whose father sells into slavery who
is then brought to America during the gold rush. She is then bought by a pimp
to be his 'wife' but she eventually finds love and freedom. I believe it is
based on a true story.  This isn't a very good description but I hope you get
the idea.  She was excellent in it!!  


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From: FisKer@cup.portal.com (Scott M Martin)
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Subject: Re: Rascals SPOILERS
Date: Wed,  4 Nov 92 23:47:24 PDT
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This show was very good from a strict entertainment point of view.
Seeing the four adults as children was fun; I though kid-Guinan was the
BEST younger version, then RO, then Picard, and finally Keiko. Yes,
Guinan's lines seemed poorly dubbed, but let's forget the minor technical
glitches!  Her character was VERY believable as a child, as was Ro's
arrogance. 
The Ferengi exist ONLY to be obnoxious. Nothing more. And seeing them 
swarm all over the Enterprise gave me the willies. They're living proof that
morning breath can evolve (devolve?) into something even nastier.

I give this one 7.874 / 10.000 on my arbitrary scale of Trekness.
From: det@phlan.sw.stratus.com (David Toland)
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Subject: Re: TNG Grade Report: "Rescals"
Date: 10 Nov 92 12:52:34 GMT
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In article <rawdon.721347375@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>In <griffita.721295053@sfu.ca> griffita@fraser.sfu.ca (David Stuart Griffiths) writes:
>>I'm sort of wondering why Riker had to re-establish the computer connection
>>for Picard in the playroom.  Doesn't the captain have the authority to do
>>this on his own ship?
>
>I was wondering about this, but I can see reason for it.  If RIKER is the
>one who locked out the command functions, then only RIKER can reinstate
>them.  That way they don't have several officers who can reinstate them
>trying to second-guess each other without being able to confer (which is
>a strong possibility).

I'm sorry, but that doesn't make sense to me.  If Riker were killed, or if
he had snapped and taken over the ship for his own purposes, then no one
else would be able to restore control.

What is much more likely is that a computer lockout can only be
countermanded from a bridge station.  This makes sense, especially if you
consider that the bridge is ordinarily the most secure area of the ship.
The conditions for reenabling computer control would be that an officer
of command rank is present on the bridge and consents with the request.

There is precedence for this in the series.  In "11001001", Picard and
Riker initiate the autodestruct sequence from Engineering, but will only
be able to abort it if they retake the bridge.  In "Brothers", Picard's
final attempt to regain computer control after Data commandeered the ship
was a command override AFTER THEY REGAINED ACCESS TO THE BRIDGE.  It
only failed because Data slapped on an even higher level of security
posing as Picard, with a passcode that Picard could neither know or guess.












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From: judson@watserv.ucr.edu (Michael Judson)
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Subject: I liked Fistful of Datas
Date: 10 Nov 92 23:59:27 GMT

Yes, I did like A Fistful of Datas:
Spoilers ahead:

















I liked the fact that Data's experiment didn't lead to a ship wide disaster
near an exploding star which was going to destroy the Enterprise.  I liked
that it was a rather simple episode.  I liked that it showed Data's
emotions in his characters.  I especially liked that Data was the (what's
her name) character, and how Worf reacted: "Computer, END PROGRAM!!!"
Did anyone else like anything about it?  Or did anyone adamantly hate it
for the above reasons?

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From: gt0552c@prism.gatech.EDU (PILCHER,DAVID ANDREW)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Picard's background
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:29:41 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


	Okay, this episode (RASCALS) brought up a question that I've had for
a long time.  I'm an huge ST:TNG fan, but I don't read these r.a.s.* things
very often, so I hope this ain't a FAQ.

	Jean-Luc Picard, both in geezer and rug-rat form has a distinctively
british accent (especially as a kid).  Yet, his name is inherently french.
Why?  Was he born in France but grow up in England?  I know somebody knows
the answer to this out there.  Of course the REAL answer is obvious: Patrick
Stewart was the best choice for the part, and he IS brittish.  So why didn't
the ST folks just rename Jean-Luc Picard as John Pickard?

							Pilch 
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From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: taken too quickly
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:47:40 GMT
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In article <1992Nov9.211346.1416@cbis.ece.drexel.edu>, jpw@lorelei.ece.drexel.edu (Joseph Wetstein) writes:

> Yep. The ship was taken too quickly. Ricker was apparently out of it.

> In TOS "Errand of Mercy", the E was being fired at by many klingon ships...
> a FLEET of them were involved in the struggle. Sulu followed his orders, and
> after returning fire, he WARPED out of ORBIT!!!  

> SULU did not have his ship taken. RIKER did. I think it's time to suspend
> his holodeck privledges for a while...

Sulu later became a Captain.  We'll see if Willy makes it.  Right now, he
looks like a weenie.  Maybe Wesley Crusher DID make all the big decisions
and Riker's lost without him.

Terry
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From: cedler@boi.hp.com (Chris Edler)
Subject: Re: SPOILERS Rascals: Riker should be shot.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:16:35 GMT
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The crew sheepishly crowding onto the transporter platform to relinquish
the ship made me laugh.

The Klingons would rather destroy their ship than let it get in the hands
of an enemy.  Klingons...real men (?) for a real universe!


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