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From: tperreau@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (The Mad Scot)
Subject: Re: Batman vs. Spiderman
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 08:52:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.071804.5596@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> bcg42647@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Hasaneenee Dingo ) writes:
>agapow@latcs1.lat.oz.au (paul-michael agapow) writes:
>
>><rauser.702945880@sfu.ca> rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser) writes:
>>>
>>>   If Batman fought Spiderman, who would win? Granted Spidey is much stronger
>>>and faster...but Batman's got a wealth of gadgets and his studly armour. 
>>>Both are brilliant (remember, Peter Parker was a science grad student) but
>>>Batman is much shrewder IMHO. More importantly, if these two heroes were to
>>>fight to the death, who would you netters cheer for?
>
>>What i really want to know is, if the Ewoks fought the Smurfs, who would
>>win? Like while the Ewoks are hardened combat veterans, and might have a
>>few ATTs still hanging around, the Smurfs have magic and the wisdom of
>>Grandpa Smurf. And of course they could always distract the ewoks with
>>Smurfette and make a flanking attack. But the Ewoks could probably
>>convince the Care-Bears to join their side which would even up the fight.
>>i'm not sure if ET would join the Smurf side, he/it might hire him/itself
>>out as a mercenary to either side, and since neither side has a monetary
>>system, this would present problems. 
>
>>So what do you think?
>
>I believe the Alliance kept all the AT-ST's for themself, so the Ewoks are
>down, there, and, as you all recall from the Saturday Night Live where
>Sigourney (sp?) Weaver was host, [in the segment entitled "Alienses"], E.T. is
>in fact dead - shot to death by hyperactive over-muscled space marines.
>
>In any event, you forgot the Smurfs' ace-in-the-hole: Ah-nold Smurf.
>							*Heenop!*

Uh-huh.  But you forgot the Ewoks allies - Fuzzy Fuzzy Zarathustra (ie
Little Fuzzies - the _original_ Ewoks from H. Beam Piper's books
"Little Fuzzy" and "Fuzzy Sapiens"), and the Hokas.  The Smurfs wouldn't
stand a snowball's chance.  Rambo Hoka would waste Smurfette - thus ending
her flanking attack, and imagine a legion of Little Fuzzies with their
choppo-diggo's lead by the Napelon Hoka - or is he Alexander Hoka
today?




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From: moscatel@granite.ma30.bull.com (Joseph Moscatelli)
Subject: Alien^3 Article
Organization: Bull HN Information Systems Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 17:09:48 GMT
Originator: moscatel@granite.ma30.bull.com

 
I noticed today that the latest issue of Cinefantastique (Sp?) has about 10-12
pages on Alien^3 with several photos including the cover.
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From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The fox so cunning and free)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Bladerunner Author
Date: 8 Apr 92 11:19:08 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <22560@goofy.Apple.COM>, keithley@apple.com (Craig Keithley) writes...

} I vaguely remember another book (not by Dick), that had a similar plotline.
} That is, biological replicants struggling to be human.  In this book,
} the replicants had serial numbers of some sort tatooed on their foreheads.
} The problem with trying to be human was that they needed to remove the 
} tatoo...  This required surgery, medical instruments, etc. The people
} who supplied the illegal medical instruments were called "Bladerunners".
} I've always thought that Scott got the term "Bladerunner" from that book.

} Unfortunately I don't remember the title or author of the other book.
} Oh well, maybe someday I'll remember or find the book again.

} I apologize if I've not got the other book's plotline exactly right, its
} been 10 years since I read it.

You've not got the plotline right.

What you're looking for is the book THE BLADERUNNER by Alan E. Nourse.
Scott *did* get the term "Blade Runner" from this book. If you read the
end credits of the film, there's even an acknowledgement thanking Nourse
(and William Burroughs, who'd written an unproduced screen treatment of
Nourse's book) for the use of the title.

And note:  Nourse's book is titled [THE] BLADERUNNER (one word)
           Scott's film is titled BLADE RUNNER (two words)

-- 

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	 Downright Twainian in a Hitchcockian sort of way."


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Subject: Re: Batman vs. Spiderman
Date: 11 Apr 92 23:16:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: crash.1992Apr11.231639.3439
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA

In <rauser.702945880@sfu.ca> rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser) writes:

>
>
>   If Batman fought Spiderman, who would win? Granted Spidey is much stronger
>and faster...but Batman's got a wealth of gadgets and his studly armour. 
>Both are brilliant (remember, Peter Parker was a science grad student) but
>Batman is much shrewder IMHO. More importantly, if these two heroes were to
>fight to the death, who would you netters cheer for?
>
My comment is who cares!!!!!! This is one of the most ridiculous threads I've
seen yet. Why not take this stupid conversation over to the comic book group.
Take it anywhere!! Just keep it out of here!!
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From: msandlin@EMAIL.NCSC.NAVY.MIL (Sandlin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: The Rocky Horror Picture Show
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:29:12 GMT


I saw a posting a few days back recommending the Rocky Horror
Picture Show, I definitely agree, it is a movie that should be seen
multiple times, both on video and in the theater.

I find that I still have some unanswered questions, perhaps someone
out on the net may have figured out the answers.

*** Possible Spoilers ***

1.  What was Dr. Frank N. Furter's mission to Earth? Surely he
didn't come here to create Rocky, he could have done that just as
easily on Transsexual and saved himself the trouble of moving the
equipment plus the travel expenses for the conventioneers that came
to watch. Perhaps the mission was to subvert and pervert Earth, the
Floor Show kind of hints at that, and perhaps Brad and Janet were
just the first to fall into his trap, but was Rocky part of this
deviant scheme?

2.  Was Dr Scott truly paralyzed or was that just part of his CIA
cover that he could no longer maintain once he experienced the
deviant rush of wearing a garter belt and black stockings with high
heels? If he was paralyzed, was it this sudden thrill of perversion
that overcame his infirmity or was it due to something done by Dr.
Furter, and if so, why?

3.  Finally, what of the Floor Show? What was its original and,
perhaps, diabolical intent?

4.  Will Brad and Janet ever, perhaps secretly, do the Time Warp
again?

Mike Sandlin
msandlin@email.ncsc.navy.mil
From: scot@catzen.GUN.de (Scot W. Stevenson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Distribution: world
Organization: Little Point of Dharma
Subject: Why not Warrior Queen?
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X-Software: HERMES GUS 0.99 Rev. Oct 12 1991
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1992 12:26:16 CET

Hello there,

Hmpf. I have heard a lot about the film "Warrior Queen," even seen it
quoted in other films, but my trusty Video Movie Guide (1990) is
silent. Depressingly silent. What is with this movie, is it so porn that
the book that put in Gwendoline won't touch it, or is it so bad that
they who reviewed Scream don't want to talk about it?

Thanks for your help,

							Y, Scot
-- 
                     Don't you touch that watermelon!
          Scot W. Stevenson  scot@catzen.GUN.de  Essen, Germany
From: bcushman@lust.reed.edu (Ben Cushman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Mistake at beginning of T2
Date: 7 Apr 92 02:48:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Apr7.024818.9173
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR


> It is also mentioned in the first movie, I believe, that the time travel
> machine was destroyed after Reese came through it.  So another one must
> have been built that would allow non-organic material through it???
> 
> Warrior Queen
> 
> 
> Vampire Hunters Inc.
> jess%miracle@merk.com
> If you have vampire problems, call!!  We'll
> stake your problem right through the heart!!

	I don't think so-- I think that they sent two people through it--  
Reese and the reprogrammed T800-- right prior to its destruction.   
Remember, when playing with time, [almost] anything is possible.

						Ben Cushman		
						Reed College
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From: ss@rugsucker.WPI.EDU (Scott N Streeter)
Subject: Re: Batman vs. Spiderman
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 23:17:01 GMT

>>>>> On Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:44:40 GMT, rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser) said:



rauser> If Batman fought Spiderman, who would win? Granted Spidey is
rauser> much stronger and faster...but Batman's got a wealth of
rauser> gadgets and his studly armour.  Both are brilliant (remember,
rauser> Peter Parker was a science grad student) but Batman is much
rauser> shrewder IMHO. More importantly, if these two heroes were to
rauser> fight to the death, who would you netters cheer for?

Do you mean the movie Batman, or the REAL Batman?

--
                        Scott Streeter
                        ss@wpi.wpi.edu
From: clive@mungarra.asis.unimelb.edu.au (Clive Newall)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Explosive Space Modulator
Date: 10 Apr 92 08:00:15 GMT

Actually, the description is:

<Something> Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator
            ^!!!

Clive Newall			E-mail: clive@asis.unimelb.EDU.AU
Information Technology Services (ASIS), University of Melbourne.
Disclaimer: This is ME talking. Not ITS. Not the University.
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From: jaufrecht@pomona.claremont.edu
Subject: T2: that's not a plot hole!
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:11:52 PDT

Something else to consider:

It was originally intended for audiences not to know which time traveler was
the good and which was the bad.  Thus, Arnold acts pretty brutal in the
beginning, and the T-1000 doesn't do anything onscreen that Reese wouldn't have
done.  Thus, it is implied that the T-1000 punched the cop and stole his
clothing.  Unfortunately, for marketing reasons the fact the Arnold was the
good guy was publicized, and this plot twist was somewhat obscured.  Sigh.  But
give Cameron a little more credit; without prior knowledge, the mall scene in
which Arnold saves John would have been _really_ cool.

-Joel
From: ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: The Blood of Heroes
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:51:22 GMT
Reply-To: ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host)
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC


> Article <js8t3w@rpi.edu> From: cleggp@aix.rpi.edu (Paul Jason Clegg)

> Has anyone besides myself seen "The Blood of Heroes" with Rutger Hauer?

> Do any of the above people actually like it?

No I havent - it looked like a low-budget, martial arts film.

He seems to star with Joan Chen a lot (I like his taste in women)

I recently rented Deadlock and it was pretty good although hardly
as sf as the box tries to make it.   The only "sf" part of it
was the prison (I like it although I see a weakeness in it
that the prisoners could do a mass escape) and manacles.

Anybody know Joan Chen's background?
She seems to be in a number of sf-ish films
(Blood of Heroes, Deadlock, Steel Justice recently)
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From: JMH131@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: T-1000 vs. ???
Date: 12 Apr 92 22:11:36 GMT
Organization: HAM - Hackers Against MUDs
X-Subliminal-Message: IBM/370 assembler is your friend.


 OK, people.  This is getting ridiculous, unless this is alt.pro.wrestling.
 At least have a VALID comparison.  The Batman vs. Spiderman is sort of good,
 because you would at least expect to see them in the same neighborhood.  Why
 would the Blob fight the T-1000?  It eats LIVING things.  The T-1000 wouldn't
 fight the Blob or Batman unless it was programmed to.  Batman would have just
 done the same thing to the T-1000 as what Arnie did to it (if he lived long
 enough).  Why would Batman fight Spiderman?  They are both good guys.  More
 VALID vs. please.  Stuff that you might expect to fight each other.
 --John.
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From: gulisaj@alleg.edu 
Subject: Re: Kenner Star Wars:where's yak face?????
Reply-To: gulisaj@alleg.edu 
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:32:13 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.224011.3644@iscsvax.uni.edu>  
adamson2720@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> Those of you who collected the Kenner line of Star Wars figures may be  
able to
> help me out on this one...does anyone remember a doll getting made of  
YAK
> FACE??  I never saw it in the stores, despite it being pictured and  
named as a
> doll in their line on the back of those packages.  Upon writing a letter  
to

	--Before readers of the movie category start to get upset by these  
postings, perhaps we should move followup discussions to  
rec/arts/sf/marketplace or something.  
	However, while I'm at it, let me say that the Yak Face action  
figure in question was never produced in the United States.  It was,  
however, available in European countries in Tri-Lingual packaging and in  
Australia (and possibly other countries) in "Power of the Force"  
packaging.  Any version of this figure is rare, but the Power of the Force  
packaged varieties are worth considerably more, due to the presence of the  
collector's coin and the flimsy nature of the European Tri-Logo cardboard.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
From: gberigan@cse.unl.edu (Life...)
Subject: Re: Ending of ALIENS...
Organization: Ursa Minor Beta, 402-476-8047 @ 2400
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 18:59:47 GMT

bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:
>gberigan@cse.unl.edu (Life...) writes:

>>They are using the term "bug hunt" in the sense of computers and other
>>electronics.  "Is this going to be a stand-up fight [battle], sir, or
>>another bug hunt [debugging]?"

>Greg, you gotta be kidding.  Do you think "bug hunt" was referring to
>electronics?  No way!!!
>
>I suggest you read R.A.Heinlein's "Starship Trooper".  
>That's what a bug hunt is: Hunting aliens.

Rather not.  Anyway, by the time of ALIEN, they had yet to have
contacted extraterrestrial life (officially... there is the random
meetings of Predators on Earth).  Everyone in the series seems to
believe that man is alone in the Universe, until the derelict is found.
Thus, taken into account that mindset (and that apparently the Marines
hadn't read the disks yet) the interpretation of "repairing a downed
transmitter" would be more likely than kicking some alien butt.  The
most battle I can see the Marines regularly taking part in is repelling
human invaders from colonies that have lost contact with Earth.  Add in
them not knowing what "xenomorph" means, ("Excuse me sir, a what?", and
the lack of visible response to the word, other than Hicks' tone of
voice) and you get why I draw my conclusion.

In short, I don't care what the terms are drawn from.  I keep my view
focused on the timeline we see.

>Greg Bole                     Maid Marian: "Why, you speak treason!"
>bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu         Robin Hood: "Fluently"

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From: jogle@nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Star Wars Series
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:32:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: zia.1992Apr16.233207.2848
Reply-To: jogle@nrao.edu
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory

So has anyone got the Star Wars newsgroup at their site yet?  Wasn't it
supposed to be 'officialized' sometime last week?  (I haven't seen it yet.)

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From: thssapk@iitmax.iit.edu (Al Kwiatkowski)
Subject: Re: Mistake at beginning of T2
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 02:57:14 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.023536.12315@reed.edu> bcushman@lust.reed.edu (Ben Cushman) writes:
>
>Hi folks--
>
>	I have a quick question.  Was the T1000 organic?  If not, how  
>could he be temporally diplaced.  I understood that the reason why no  
>weapons or clothes could be brought back from the future was that no  
>non-living stuff can be displaced (unless it was wrapped in living  
>tissue).  However, the T1000 seemed to be made entirely of liquid metal  
>(that is, no living tissue).  Is there an explanation for this apparent  
>discrepancy?
>
This is yet another one of the 10,001 discrepancies, continuity errors,
and mistakes that can be found in even *1* viewing of t2 8).  There have
been several net explanations (read "blind rationalizations") for this,
but the one I can buy into the most is that Reese probably didn't
know shit about the time travel mechanism.  It was built by the machines,
remember? after maybe trying to send a rock or something back in time and 
failing, the humans probably just assumed that only living tissue can go
through; or maybe Reese just figured it out when he teleported in buck
naked!!!

Later!!!

-------------***
Al Kwiatkowski
thssapk@iitmax.iit.edu

"I believe we should give toxic waste back to the taxpayers!" - Jerry Brown 8)

>					Ben Cushman
>					Reed College


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From: jbh55289@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Josh 'K' Hopkins)
Subject: Re: Mistake at beginning of T2
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 22:45:10 GMT

gberigan@cse.unl.edu (Life...) writes:

>I disagree.  It may be that only living things can be sent back in time,
>but anything can come forward.  If you say Reese is wrong, and inorganic
>material can be sent back in time, why didn't SkyNet know this and do so
>itself?  It certainly should know how it works, and the limitations.

	Oh this makes _lots_ of sense.  A hunk of 'liquid metal' is a living
thing?  More so than a beer can?  Just becuase Aaahnold looks more alive than
his clothes doesn't mean that he is.  Why weren't they wearing clothes?  Where 
does a computer in the Terminator Future find a pair of Levis?  And why didn't
Skynet go itself?  It's got other things to do, and can't take the risk.  
Besides, what is a computer (or worse yet, a network) going to do to kill the
kid?

			Josh Hopkins
From: willimsa@unix1.tcd.ie (Gavin Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Batman vs. Spiderman
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:36:59 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

In <1992Apr14.085200.20105@zia.aoc.nrao.edu> tperreau@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (The Mad Scot) writes:

>In article <1992Apr14.071804.5596@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> bcg42647@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Hasaneenee Dingo ) writes:
>>agapow@latcs1.lat.oz.au (paul-michael agapow) writes:
>>><rauser.702945880@sfu.ca> rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser) writes:
>>>>  If Batman fought Spiderman, who would win? Granted Spidey is much stronger
>>>>and faster...but Batman's got a wealth of gadgets and his studly armour. 
>>>>Both are brilliant (remember, Peter Parker was a science grad student) but
>>>>Batman is much shrewder IMHO. More importantly, if these two heroes were to
>>>>fight to the death, who would you netters cheer for?
>>
>>>What i really want to know is, if the Ewoks fought the Smurfs, who would
>>>win? Like while the Ewoks are hardened combat veterans, and might have a
>>>few ATTs still hanging around, the Smurfs have magic and the wisdom of
>>>Grandpa Smurf. And of course they could always distract the ewoks with
>>>Smurfette and make a flanking attack. But the Ewoks could probably
>>>convince the Care-Bears to join their side which would even up the fight.
>>>i'm not sure if ET would join the Smurf side, he/it might hire him/itself
>>>out as a mercenary to either side, and since neither side has a monetary
>>>system, this would present problems. 
>>>So what do you think?
>>
>>I believe the Alliance kept all the AT-ST's for themself, so the Ewoks are
>>down, there, and, as you all recall from the Saturday Night Live where
>>Sigourney (sp?) Weaver was host, [in the segment entitled "Alienses"], E.T. is
>>in fact dead - shot to death by hyperactive over-muscled space marines.


Obscure:  Who would win, the bottersnikes or the gumbles?? 

--
As usual, JIMHO.
	  Gavin...                  Plus qu'il n'en faut.           
	  willimsa@unix1.tcd.ie
From: joel@upchrch.UUCP (Joel Upchurch  )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Could Batman beat the T-1000?
Date: 10 Apr 92 05:37:36 GMT
Organization: Upchurch Computer Consulting, Orlando FL

rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser) writes:

>     Could Batman beat the T-1000? Certainly in hand to hand combat Batman
> would be in trouble. But using his gadgets and weapons and his computers
> to perhaps figure out some weakness in the T-1000...perhaps he could beat
> the liquid metal monster!
> 
>    Batman vs. the T-1000....who would win??

I can think of several ways the T-1000 could be attacked. You could
spray it with liquid nitrogen, then haul the parts in insulated
containers to the nearest smelter.

Since it is metal, spraying it with acid might be effective.
(That's the ticket, sic an Alien on it.)

Hitting it with a big thermite charge might be effective.


(If your mail bounces use the address below. My map entry is new.)
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From: joel@upchrch.UUCP (Joel Upchurch  )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Terminator, what book?
Date: 10 Apr 92 10:18:09 GMT
Organization: Upchurch Computer Consulting, Orlando FL

dmiller@pop-tarts.ai.mit.edu (David P. Miller) writes:

> In article <1992Apr9.141958.5110@engage.pko.dec.com> boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.c
> 
> >The original TERMINATOR story was heavily influenced by two episodes of the
> >60's TV series THE OUTER LIMITS written by Harlan Ellison, though: "Soldier"
> >and "Demon With a Glass Hand".

Actually in terms of premise, the story that reminds me most of "Terminator"
is "Brother Assassin" by Fred Saberhagen. Intelligent machines are trying
to wipe out humanity and send a killing machine into the past to kill a
seminal figure in human development and a human being is sent back to
thwart the plan. The biggest difference is that Berserkers weren't
orginally built by humans.

(If your mail bounces use the address below. My map entry is new.)
Joel Upchurch/Upchurch Computer Consulting/718 Galsworthy/Orlando, FL 32809
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