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From: carl@sscl.uwo.ca (Carl Kaufmann)
Subject: Re: Which is worse??
Organization: Soc.Sci.Comp.Lab., U.West.Ont.
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 05:33:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.222131.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu>, 11jcollins@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes:
> 
> Well, we've been hearing all this discussion about TALLLLL Women - so here's a
> question just to give the thread a new twist:
> 
> Which is worse  A) being a tall woman? (..lets say around 6')
>                 B) being a short man?  (..lets say around 5')
> 
>                                     {Penguin}
> 
> P.S. Yes, I am short (5'2"), how else would I get the name {Penguin}?     
>      (Then again I *do* waddle sometimes and I look great in a Tux!)
> 
> P.S. No height complexes here - I love the double-take I get when I go out with
>      a lovely lass of 5'9" (without heels!)!! 

*Only* 5'9!  You should try 5'2" (me) vs. 6'1" (her).

CatGuy
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Believe in youself, dammit! (was: Re: Singles Bar)
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 02:03:15 GMT

In article <kiran.716377022@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:
>kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown) writes:

>Kevin, where have you been?  Everybody knows the woman always makes
>the first move,

We just discussed this.  The woman makes the first move, the second
move, the third move, the fourth move, and maybe the fifth move.
After than, the man makes the first move.

>I'm glad that sonebody is willing to defend this unpopular view.  I
>wonder, if certain ppl applied the same techniques to job-hunting that
>they advocate for relationships ("Do what you like" for instance, or
>"Don't _try_ to find one and one will come along") how many of these
>ppl would be employed.

Well, it worked for me :-)

>>Next time I'm giving them my phone number if I find them interesting
>>enough.  Then they can call me, or not.  Their choice, but at least
>
>Ya shoulda done it this time.  Or asked for hers.  (Giving a woman
>your phone number is only effective if you live on a street where
>women call men and *gasp* even ask men out sometimes.)

You should ask for hers.  Women are very unlikely to call men (that's
my experience; Trygve's may differ).

>>then the chance will be there, and *they* will have the comfort of
>>having control (this is very important).
>
>Important to whom (and according to whom is it impportant?)

No, the person being called has the control:  A calls B, and asks for
a date.  B now controls whether or not a date happens.

>>way.  I will learn how to converse with others.  I'll maximize my exposure.  
>Expose yourself only in New York. 

That's only legal for women, and only above the waist :-)

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
From: dy@depsych.Gwinnett.COM (Dr. Yes)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Singles Bar (Why would you want one?)
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:32:51 GMT

jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond) writes:

> 
> In article <1992Sep10.034510.27780@csi.uottawa.ca> misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Ma
> 
>    In article <JMD.92Sep8114709@lion.bear.com>, jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond) w
>    > My suggestion to the original poster is to avoid singles bars like the
>    > plague.  Try getting involved in some group activities instead.  You
>    > are much more likely to meet someone and create a relationship there
>    > than in the "meat market".
> 
>       Has that actually worked for you?
> 
> Definitely so.  Not only did I meet my SO in this way, but also
> (perhaps just as important) I met many of my closest friends in such
> organizations.  How better to meet people with similar interests?
> 
> Note that I said "try getting involved in... ".  I did not say "try
> becoming obsessed with..." :-) :-) :-)

Could you go into a little more detail about the mechanics of what
you did?  I've never been able to make organizations work for me.
I never see the same person in two different organizations so it
never rolls over into any kind of a network.  (It's like stepping
into separate puddles that never merge into a pond. And as soon as
I stop going every minute of time and every erg of energy I
invested in that organization is instantly irrelevant and down the
drain.)

I've tried several computer users societies.  All guys.

I've tried several churches.  Nobody talks to you except old men
who already have as much of a network as they need.

I've tried Mensa.  Nice people but they all have lives of their
own outside Mensa and use Mensa as a way of getting their needs
for intelligent conversation met.  (If everybody in Mensa
discovered Usenet, I think Mensa would die as an organization
because nobody would need it.)

I've tried political campaigns.  All that happens is that you find
yourself doing unpaid work and interacting superficially with
people who are oriented only toward the task at hand.

I've tried professional organizations.  People are afraid to get
involved at a personal level for a variety of reasons, not least
of which is that lonely losers have already tried to hit on them
in the past and they are suspicious of anyone who tries to move a
relationship in a more personal direction.

What organizations have you joined and how did you move inside
them to make them work for you?

--
Still Using Waffle 1.64!    | Wafffle, QEdit and Webster's
                            | NewWorld -- one great menage a
                            | trois!
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: The Engaged Psychobitch from Hell Syndrome
Date: 15 Sep 92 12:53:25 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Sep15.005935.25638@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> helz@ecn.purdue.edu (Randall A Helzerman) writes:
>Has this ever happened to you???
>
>You meet this new girl.  A quick finger-scan for rings gives you an all-clear
>signal.  You ask her out.  A real nice date or two.  Then right before
>things get too serious, she tells you she's engaged.
>
>I can't tell you how many times this has happened to me.  I've even given
>it a name:  The "Engaged Psychobitch from Hell" syndrome.
>
>Can "you all out there in netland" explain to me what would cause a woman
>to do this?  And how can I avoid such sillyness in the future?
>
 
So you've met my sister.

 
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer)
Subject: Re: Cooking for 1!
Date: 07 Sep 92 10:16:49 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1992Sep3.180657.29641@odin.corp.sgi.com> lana@magenta.corp.sgi.com (Lana Mountford) writes:
>In article <4127@moscom.UUCP>, wjb@moscom.UUCP (Bill de Beaubien) writes:
>|> 
>|> Why don't I ever find people who love to cook?  I don't really mind cooking
>|> per se, but after 8-10 hours at work, I certainly don't want to spend an
>|> hour cooking.  I'd rather sit here and read soc.singles :-)
>
>Actually, I find cooking incredibly relaxing.  Creating the menu,
>shopping for the ingredients, organizing the "schedule" so that 
>everything comes out at the right time -- these are preludes to the
>*real* fun!  I select the wine, get 1 extra bottle of it, and start
>the "main event": the actual preparation.  It's such a trip to see
>everything coming together!  Eating is almost an anti-climax.  :-)
Well, I like this too...but not when things are messy.
Basically I'm a slob and I hate my apartment because
it's so dark, yucky, and messy.

Yeah, I know : some cleaning, some paint, and new furniture
would help.

Bleah.

any other ideas? 

-jen

maybe I'll just move my futon into the office....

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle)
Subject: Re: A lurker goes to California
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 00:28:09 GMT
Organization:  The VAX ate my Brain
Distribution: usa
Keywords: Good luck !!

In article <14525@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <ntsnctq.tyger@netcom.com> tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle) writes:
>|In article <BuB1sn.FpE@acsu.buffalo.edu> v105l4lg@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (c pierre) writes:
>|>
>|>	Greetings there good buddy !!
>|Put the CB *down*, C!
> 
>There's an old CB joke that goes...
>
>Q: What is a good buddy?
>A: A good buddy is a guy that goes out, gets two blow jobs, and comes back
>   and gives you one.

*groan* John, that was terrible! :P

>|>	If you can, try and rent a car and buy a map in the process, because	
>|>that place is quite treacherous. Yes, in the blink of an eye you would be
>|>naked and broke around those folks. Party animals you see !!
>|That's a flaming lie! We only want his money! :)
>|
>There may also be some ProblemOlderWomen around that would prefer that
>he was naked as well.

I suppose so, but as a net.toddler, I've no interest in that sort of stuff.
;)

>|>	 I again suspect that you would be looking for an eyeopener too, so
>|>drive to Navada and look for the M. Ranch. 
>|Now if only it hadn't been shut down by the IRS for tax infractions...
>                                                         ^^^^^^^^^^
>Are you sure this is spelled correctly? 

I am pretty sure it's spelled right, but it *could* be the wrong word, I
suppose. The IRS was involved in the demise of the aforementioned Ranch, 
but I didn't think the issue was tax *evasion*. I might be wrong, but I
hardly ever am...;)

>| John Fereira  

   Tyger


-- 
      Kristen Kohlbecker    And I would choose to be with you
      tyger@netcom.com      That's if the choice were mine to make   
                            But you can make decisions too
      A Tyger and a Lady    And you can have this heart to break
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: 'What the hell kind of a world do we live in...'
Date: 12 Sep 92 07:14:40 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:

>Prompted the one with cervical cancer to say 'What the hell kind of a world
>do we live in where 25 year olds get cancer?'
>Any answers? Didn't think so... (1/2 :)

Sorry to hear about your friends' health problems. One answer to the
question is: a world where some kinds of cancer (including cervical) are
much easier to detect and cure at early stages than they once were.

Stef
stef@apple.com
--
Freedom is what you do with what's been done to you. - Sartre  
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel)
Subject: Re: "want" vs "need"
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 20:40:07 GMT

   I posted a followup to Diamond's latest article in this thread, but
it went into a local black hole, and now Diamond's original article has
expired. :-(   Seems I'll have to save a copy of everything I post from
here.

   Anywhey (that's a deliberate misspelling, newbies), the topic was
my thought-experiment where I imagined that "... any time you wanted, 
you could enjoy the company of a desirable MOTAS."  Diamond said 
"My!  How peculiar! :-)" if I didn't mean sex by that.  I say:  Such an
interaction might well include sex, but certainly wouldn't be limited to
that. :-)

   She wondered if I was describing my "ideal world".  I wasn't.  I was
merely suggesting *other* (not necessarily *better*) ways of being   
happy than having an SO.

   She wondered if I thought "lack of omniscience" was a reason to avoid
SOships.  Au contraire!  I am seeking an SO, and I encourage others
(especially women :-) ) to do likewise.   This is an issue on which I'm
"very binary" (as one Net.goddess put it).  I would not accept an 
unsatisfactory SOship.  And if I had a satisfactory SOship, that would 
be it -- I would *never* consider a "step up".

   My point in this thread was simply:  *If* there's *no* satisfactory 
SOship in sight, *then* the statement "I *need* an SO in order to be 
happy" might bear some re-thinking.

   Finally, she recommends a Heinlein book.  Thanks!  I'll read that,	
when I have Time Enough.

misrael@csi.uottawa.ca			Mark Israel
Sunbeams brightly play, where Fancy's fair pavilion once is pight.
From: coen@ab.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: menu
Date: 14 Sep 92 23:22:08 GMT
Organization: Alderson-Broaddus College

<<  Your friend is not being cruel.  Any friend tries to help another one. 
But, this is not necessarily the only and best way to meet people.  Get out
more and become involved in activities and such, give that a try.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: david@donald.concordia.ca (David Gaudine)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: Rocker, Tell that to My ProblemOlderWoman
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:32:08 GMT
Followup-To: soc.singles
Organization: Concordia University

In article <thurlow.715661671@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:
>
>Actually, that reminds me of the article in misc.handicap the other
>day about electroejaculation.  A fellow was describing how the little
>electrodes were taped to the penis with things that looked like
>Band-Aids, and how the current could stimulate the organ to have the
>desired effect.
>
Believe it.  I had physiotherapy on my knee once, and the electrodes that
they placed on my upper leg were "interesting".
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: liz@prc.unisys.com (Liz Loquacious)
Subject: Re: Tallllll women....
Followup-To: soc.singles
Organization: Paramax Systems
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:14:56 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.162939.29487@linus.mitre.org>, wtr@mitre.org (Bill Ralston) writes:
|> liz@prc.unisys.com (Liz Loquacious) writes:
|> 
|> >For dresses and skirts I don't seem to have a problem although it sure 
|> >looks like a lot of leg sticking out beneath some of my minis sometimes! 
|> 
|> Thank you! thank you!  [for reducing me to a drooling nerd, that is :) ]
|> 

Anytime Bill, *wink*

Liz
From: pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Leg shaving (was Re: Desperation ...)
Date: 12 Sep 92 18:49:12 GMT
Organization: Trivializers R Us

In article <1992Sep11.161935.16021@gvl.unisys.com> liz@prc.unisys.com (Liz Loquacious) writes:
>In article <1992Sep10.210248.26905@panix.com>, pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich) writes:
>|> In article <1992Sep10.150745.12405@gvl.unisys.com> liz@prc.unisys.com (Liz Loquacious) writes:
>|> >
>|> >Well, in addition to the mess in the sink you get the same, but larger,
>|> >mess in the tub!  (Yes, women shave their legs too but we don't leave
>|> >a mess in there, perfect creatures that we are. ;-))  And you get to feel 
>|> >those nubbies growing back in too!  Never an issue in the relationship; just 
>|> >one of those things....
>|> 
>|> And you get to have twice as many hassles over who uses whose
>|> razor for what :-)
>|> 
>|> paul   scarred for life
>
>Spoken from experience Paul?  Can I see those legs? ;-)

Depends on how tall you are and whether you look down, or whether
you coerce me to walk up stairs in front of you ;-)

*Humorless pedant mode*
It's a bleak monday morning, about a half hour before dawn. A light
ugly drizzle covers the small harbor, muffling the wave sounds that
can usually be heard from the front porch. You pry your eyes open
to shower and dress for the two-hour train ride back to the city and
your dead-end job. Mostly awake by now, you apply the razor to your
throat only to discover that your beloved used it just yesterday on
the unbestockinged portion of her anatomy. Blood streaming from your
wounds, you grope for the medicine cabinet and the agonizing surcease
of the stypic pencil.
*End humorless pedant mode*

paul
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Tallllll women....
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:06:27 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.150027.12199@gvl.unisys.com> liz@prc.unisys.com
(Liz Loquacious) writes:

>  For dresses and skirts I don't seem to have a problem although it sure 
>looks like a lot of leg sticking out beneath some of my minis sometimes!  

Is that a complaint?  Looks fine from here :-)

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: loosemore-sandra@CS.YALE.EDU (Sandra Loosemore)
Subject: Re: Tallllll women....
Organization: staff hacker @ Yale Haskell project
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:36:57 GMT

wtr@mitre.org (Bill Ralston) writes:

   Liz, you terrible tease, luring us drooling nerds to the Boink and then 
   wearning pants all weekend!  :)

Hey, speak for yourself, Bill!  I may be a nerd but I don't drool. :-)
(Or at least not over Liz's legs....)

-Sandra
From: rkf@wildrose.infoserv.com (Ray Fink)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Wolf Park? (was Re: Desperation)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 10:17:00 MDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Wild Rose Refugee Camp

kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:

>c71@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Francesco Tarantelli) writes:
>>Personally I prefer wolves. They have an undeserved bad reputation. 
>Wolves are mondo cool.  The Wolf Park near Lafayette, IN had _CUBS_
>this year.  Wolf puppies are the cutest, most cuddly critters...one of
>these days i hope to be able to volunteer to raise the pups.  

Hey, what's the story on this Wolf Park?  Back in my Purdue years
(early 70's) there was a professor named Klinghamer (??) who studied
wolves, and had a fair-sized research facility on his property in
a little town (Battleground?) near Lafayette.  Is the Wolf Park an
evolution from this?

Yeah, wolf pups *are* mondo cool, but I could never understand why they
wanted to chew on my belt buckle.  Alas, the knockout blonde grad
assistant that worked there didn't have any similar interest :-)

BTW, there was a confirmed (professional videotape) sighting of a wolf 
in Yellowstone Park this summer.  They're coming back!

-- Ray
From: wtr@mitre.org (Bill Ralston)
Subject: Re: Flirting.
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:13:15 GMT

[thread history deleted]

The original poster that started this thread (long lost at this site) 
mentioned the problem of not recognizing when a MOTAS is flirting with them until either several hours later or when someone else pointed it out.  I've had the same problem, and in thinking about it came up with one possible answer.

Sometimes the best flirting is when one (or both?) parties don't realize 
they are flirting because it all comes so naturally.

---------------
wtr@mitre.org
** Opinions are mine only, and not my employer's **
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Where the best posts come from
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:25:03 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.025912.7778@oracle.us.oracle.com> wkaufman@us.oracle.com (William Kaufman) writes:
>In article <la4pdaINNl25@news.bbn.com> dhardin@spcink.bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
>] 
>] Isn't anybody going to mention any men?  How about the sensitive james
>] dutton?  Or Steve Swann?  Or James Nicole?  Or.... whoops, I guess it's 
>] a waste of time to suck up to the men, huh?
>
>    Not at all.  I'm available for being sucked up to anytime.
>
>    Well, OK, I'll start:
>
>    james, Im constantly amazed by you're eloquent discourses on men in
>the 90s.  You're sensitivity really speak's to me, as a man destroyed by
>the ravages of female hormones.  You're quirky use of apostrophe's
>excite me.  Nowaday's, even a simple, over-heard "sesquipedalian" can
>make me tumescent.  I feel empowered, and I have you to thank.
>
>    On behalf of our brothers everywhere, I hope you get your sisters.
>
>                                           -- Bill K.
>
>Bill Kaufman               | "The nimrod writing that issue couldn't write
>wkaufman@us.oracle.com     |  evil if he had the whole year and a bathtub
>                           |  full of flayed babies."      -- James Nicoll
 
Bill,
 You strike me as an intelligent, sincere, aware, extremely sensitive
new age kind of a guy.
Perceptive? Some would say. I'd just like to add(2 + 2 = 4.5) that soc.
singles could always use more positive role models. Enough with the
nit picking. The bring us all down mentality. Lets all join hands against
THEM. The scum sucking maggots who but there for the grace of god...
 
 Sorry I was up most of the night during a thunder storm because
my 2 year old insisted a tomato was going to get her.
 
 Anyways, Bill is cool and a very hard worker.

 
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 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
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From: haight@gemini.cs.nps.navy.mil (timothy haight)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: SHOULD I CALL MY EX-GIRLFRIEND?
Date: 13 Sep 92 18:19:58 GMT
Reply-To: haight@cs.nps.navy.mil (timothy haight)
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA

Don't call your ex.  It's very hard for lovers to return to just being
friends.  You must realize that even though you may have accepted the
change, perhaps they haven't.  Contact can be very painful -- for both
of you.

It's best to just get on with your life.
From: ron@turing.toronto.edu (Ron Wessels)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: The Amazing Banana-Swallowing Allisson
Summary: And now that I've got your attention ...
Keywords: Allisson, banana, attention, message
Date: 6 Sep 92 03:17:08 GMT
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto

Allisson asked me to post the following message for her, since she
is temporarily without net access.  The message (including subject
line) is Allisson's (dictated), and any grammatical and/or spelling
errors are mine.  :-)

------------------------- Begin Forwarded Message -------------------------

Hi all -

Ok, *maybe* the boink pictures will be made into gif's.

Now that I've got your attention (I always was a bit of a tease),
sorry to all of you who've emailed me or responded to my posts
in the past few weeks.  I've been unable to access my account due
to the fact that I am nowhere near a computer (on a regular basis)
and Trygve hasn't found one for me yet (we hope to remedy this
*real soon*).  You will be hearing from me again in 3-4 weeks as
I should have acquired a computer and a way to access my account.
'Till then, hang in there and don't flame each other too badly
(or at least save me some marshmallows - I've got the chocolate
and graham crackers).

If anyone *REALLY* needs to talk to me, please email Paul Wallich
(pw@panix.com) or Ron Wessels (ron@turing.toronto.edu) - as these
are two of the people I talk to on a regular basis off the net -
and they will relay a message to me.

Thanks for your time.  Maybe you'll see me in digital form soon.

Allisson   (I'm getting REAL tired of the dreaded H____ word and
	    it's only been 4 days)

-------------------------- End Forwarded Message --------------------------

-- 
Ron Wessels		University of Toronto		ron@turing.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: soc.singles