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Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Wednesday, 2 Sep 1992 20:37:26 EDT
From: <SSRGC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
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Subject: conversion utility?

The Word Perfect provided conversion utility seems to do only a one way conver-
sion of documents between WP and MS Word.  Is there a utility around that will
convert both ways?  Or am I just using the WP utility incorrectly??


Thanks.
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Steve

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MMM     MMM     a     rrrr      a     ttttt h   h  ooo  n   n
MMMM   MMMM    a a    r   r    a a      t   h   h o   o nn  n
MM MM MM MM   aaaaa   rrrrr   aaaaa     t   hhhhh o   o n n n
MM  MMM  MM  a     a  r  r   a     a    t   h   h o   o n  nn
MM   M   MM a       a r   r a       a   t   h   h  ooo  n   n
MM       MM

MM       MM
MMM     MMM     a     n   n   Long Island, May 1991, 3:59:32.7
MMMM   MMMM    a a    nn  n
MM MM MM MM   aaaaa   n n n   New York City, November 1991, 4:07:05
MM  MMM  MM  a     a  n  nn
MM   M   MM a       a n   n   NEXT!
MM       MM

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Steve Sconfienza                   Department of Sociology
ssrgc@cunyvm                       Graduate School and University Center
ssrgc@cunyvm.cuny.edu              City University of New York
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From:         "Henrique L. Barreto, University of Colorado at Boulder,
              Geography/INSTAAR" <BARRETO_H@CUBLDR.COLORADO.EDU>
Subject:      To the Brazilian.....

This is a reply to the brazilian that on 3-SEP-92 wrote:


     " I am a new user of this list and i like very much to use WP51.
But since i am from  Brazil i am looking for a dictionary for portuguese
to use with wordperfect.
      Anybody there knows how can i get and if it exists? Any FTP or
other ways!"


Contact the WordPerfect Corporation.  They have what you want - a portuguese
dictionary.

By the way,  what is your e-mail address?

Henrique

E-mail:  BARRETO_H@CUBLDR.Colorado.EDU
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:41:20 -0400
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From:         "Karl W. Lohner" <KLOHNER@DRUNIVAC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Macro Programming Language

>I wanted to turn off Reveal Codes if it was
>on. I used the following line in each macro:
>
>{IF}{STATE}&512~{Reveal Codes}
>
>WP Support says that this should work--if Reveal Codes is "on" it will be
>turned "off."  If Reveal Codes is not on, it should have no effect.  However,
>when I run the macros with this line included, they "hang" and do absolutely
>nothing IF Reveal Codes is off. If Reveal Codes is "on" when the
>macros are activated, they work fine.  WordPerfect Support says that the
>macros should work with this line included, but they don't.  Can anyone shed
>some light on this?  What am I missing.  Thanks!

   Well, you're missing one vital thing.  You *need* an {END IF} at the
end of that line.  I'm fairly sure that's what your problem is.  I use
that line all the time in my macros and have no problems.

--Karl Lohner.    klohner@drunivac.drew.edu
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From:         Cletus Stripling <CSTRIPLI@UGA.BITNET>
Subject:      Panasonic KXP3131 and Cyrillic

Hi...

I am trying to use WordPerfect 5.1 on a Panasonic KXP3131 daisy wheel printer
with a Cyrillic character wheel.  Unfortunately, WordPerfect does not
include the mappings for the cyrillic print wheel.  Therefore, it is
necessary to use the PTR program and add access to the characters.  Has
anyone else already gone through this task?  I don't look forward to using
the PTR program.  Any hints that can be provided will be GREATLY appreciated.

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From:         "A. Kaniss" <dashiell@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: "Error: Access Denied" message in WP
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No it can hold more.
A root directory on a disk can hold up to 112 subdirectories.
Each one of those subdirectories however have no limits on
how many subdirectories they can hold.

<dashiell@nadc.navy.navy.mil>
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From:         "A. Kaniss" <dashiell@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL>
Subject: Re: conversion utility?
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Yes, it's a commercialware package called word for word.
It can do much more than ms word and word perfect
conversions too.
Cost should be about $50.
<dashiell@nadc.navy.navy.mil>
I majored in programming not typing!
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From: conibear@sol.carleton.ca (Dave Conibear)
Subject: Re: "Error: Access Denied" message in WP
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:39:59 GMT

Also check to see how many FILES your CONFIG.SYS allows for.  WP
generally has a whole bunch open at the same time, so it's remotely
possible that it could write to a BK! file but then be unable to save
the original.

Dave Q. Conibear                           conibear@math.carleton.ca
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Wednesday, 26 Aug 1992 22:07:32 EDT
From: Ryan Robbins <IO20456@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
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Subject: Re: "Error: Access Denied" message in WP

DOS allows only 112 files for a *directory* on diskettes. I believe
this number is larger for 1.44 and 1.2 drives, and I know the limit
for the number of entries on a hard drive is higher than 112.

I just thought I'd clarify this.

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From:         David Ives <ELDJIVES@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: "Error: Access Denied" message in WP
              26 Aug 1992 03:35:31 GMT from <mrosen@NYX.CS.DU.EDU>

It would be rather unlikely that all files on that one diskette are
corrupted.  How many files are on it?  DOS lets you save only a certain number
of files (I think 112) to a diskette, no matter how much space is
available.
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From:         Larry <0084P@NAVPGS.BITNET>
Subject:      pages won't print

We've got a file here where pages 3 and 5, of a total of 12 pages in
the file, won't print or show in view doc. In view doc, the 2 pages
show as blank. In print, the printout goes directly from two to four to
six and seven and so on (no blank pages printed). Same results on
different PCs, different printers (HP, PScript, dot matrix). Adjusting
the file, so that somewhat different material appears on the page
(reducing line spacing, for example) doesn't change things. Deleting
the material on the page in question, saving it as DOS text, and bring-
ing it back in, doesn't help. One of the pages has a table on it, one
doesn't. Other pages, that do print, have tables. Styles are used
throughout the paper. WPerf help had no advice to offer; they wanted a
copy of the file. Tried WPMD2, although you can move freely through the
trouble area, editing normally, unlike problems I've seen that are
helped by WPMD2. WPMD2 didn't help this problem, or find any trouble
spots. Any help? Thanks for your attention!
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From:         Tom Hannah <TOM@CLEMSON.BITNET>
Subject:      Revision Date

Is it possible to put a "revision date" in a document?

What I am getting at is to have a date code of some sort that references
the last time the document was *saved*, rather than the *current* date.

Tom Hannah                            Tom@Clemson.Bitnet
Information Systems Development       Tom@Clemson.Clemson.EDU
Clemson University
Clemson, SC
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From: leffler@physics.ubc.ca (Steve Leffler )
Subject: Re: "Error: Access Denied" message in WP
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 02:05:15 GMT

mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen) writes:

>Today, while trying to save a previously saved file, when I tried to
>write over the file WP responded with, "Error: Access Denied."  Upon
>checking the directory, the file in question was now listed as
>"FILE.BK!" when previously it was only "FILE."  "FILE." no longer is
>to be found on the disk (a floppy, btw) and trying to save "FILE"
>again gets me the same error.  It seems to have changed the file into
>a backup file but still recognizes the file name without the backup extension.

   I assume you are using WP on a MS-DOS machine (with or without Windows). The
error "Access Denied" generally means that the file's read-only attribute has
been set.  To fix this, you need to get to the DOS command prompt and type
"ATTRIB -R FILE.BK!".  Then, "COPY FILE.BK! FILE." (It's not usually safe to
edit a .BK! file from WP, since WP automatically overwrites BK! files.)
  
				      ---Steven Leffler
					 Physics Dept.
					 University of British Columbia
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From:         Rusty Perrin <U7584RT@DOEMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Carpal Tunnel - Keyboards?

From: Rusty Perrin
I'm sure I have seen a list dedicated to carpal tunnel syndrome, but I could
not find it scanning through. Perhaps someone else can help you find it. Is
your keyboard on a low table? Your hands should be about even with your
elbows, and letting your wrists rest on the table in front of the keyboard is
also good. Normal desk height is too high. There are also pads similar to
mouse pads that are about 2 inches deep and as wide as your keyboard, that can
sit in front of the keyboard to make resting your wrists there more
comfortable.
From: HEMEL@RC.RUG.NL (Jan Hemel)
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Subject: Re: printing color postscript
Date: 27 Aug 92 11:28:03 GMT
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> Date:       Wed, 26 Aug 92 13:48:32 PDT
> From:       0084P@NAVPGS
> Subject:    printing color postscript
> To:         Multiple recipients of <WPCORP-L@HEARN>
> Reply-to:   WordPerfect Corporation Products Discussion List <WPCORP-L@HEARN>

>
> Does WP Sun, or WPWin print color postscript graphics? Will WPDos 6?
Yes WP51 (DOS) and WP4WIN do print color POSTSCRIPT files, but only
POSTSCRIPT!


     Jan Hemel                             e-mail: HEMEL@RC.RUG.NL
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From:         Larry <0084P@NAVPGS.BITNET>
Subject:      carpal info

You can send directly to

 Dan Wallach <dwallach@nas.nasa.gov>

to get about 700 lines of info and sources of more info: 8 or 10
keyboard companies, etc. Ask for his FAQ files.
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From:         RANDALLJC@CSOVAX.PORTSMOUTH.AC.UK
Subject:      Re: "Error: Access Denied" message in WP

DOS's restrictions on numbers of files (112 or whatever) only apply to the
root directory, so if a diskette has its maximum allocation of files but
plenty of free space, the answer is to create a subdirectory and to put new
files within that subdirectory.
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From: cczdvh@unicorn.nott.ac.uk (David Valentine-Hagart)
Subject: Re: Macro Programming Language
Organization: Cripps Computing Centre, University of Nottingham
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 12:07:02 GMT

>on. I used the following line in each macro:
>
>{IF}{STATE}&512~{Reveal Codes}
>
>WP Support says that this should work--if Reveal Codes is "on" it will be
>turned "off."  If Reveal Codes is not on, it should have no effect.  However,
>when I run the macros with this line included, they "hang" and do absolutely
>nothing IF Reveal Codes is off. 
>What am I missing.  Thanks!

You are missing a tilde, should be  {IF}{STATE}&512~~{Reveal Codes}
                                                    |
                                                   here

Dave Valentine-Hagart... cczdvh@uk.ac.nott.unicorn  ...WW.Huwow Wittle Wabbit.

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 08:26:25 CST
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From:         "Pamela K. Peters" <IANR020@UNLVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Printing envelopes in WordPerfect directly from letter?
              26 Aug 1992 03:29:02 GMT from <mrosen@NYX.CS.DU.EDU>

Both WP5.1 (DOS) and WP for Windows include a macro to print an envelope
from a standard letter.

The macro for WP5.1 is found under the "Macros" Keyboard. Keyboard macros are
listed in the manual under Appendix H.

Both macros work with the format:

date

name
address
city....

Dear ....


Pam Peters
University of Nebraska-Lincoln

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Subject: wpmacro book supplier
From: C.B.Christie@massey.ac.nz (C.B. Christie)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 01:40:17 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Keywords: wpmacro book supplier
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Can some thoughtful individual post the name  and fax no of a supplier
of Gordon McCombs book Wordperfect 5.1 macros and templates.

Thanks very much

Bruce Christie
Department of Plant Science
Massey University
Palmerston North
New Zealand

email: C.B.Christie@massey.ac.nz
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 08:29:36 CDT
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From:         Tom Dolan <Dolan@ACUVAX.ACU.EDU>
Subject:      Carpal Tunnel - Keyboards?
X-To:         wpcorp-L%ubvm.bitnet@pucc.princeton.edu

Does anyone have the address and/or phone number of one of the companies
selling "Ergonomic" keyboards which reduce carpal tunnel pressure?  Two
persons have told me they have seen ads for them, but I can't find info.
Apparantly they are wedge or cone shaped keyboards that your hands can fit
around more comfortably than a flat keyboard.

This is important since I'm experiencing some symptoms!

Tom Dolan           Dolan@Acuvax.acu.edu
Systems Manager
College of Biblical Studies
Abilene Christian University
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From:         emcnamar%sedofis@SED.BITNET
Subject:      Printing Envelopes in WPWIN

Pam Peters gives the good news about the envelope macro in PW WIN. The bad ne s
is that you can't use the Windows printer driver with the TrueType fonts: y ou
must use the WPCorp drivers. A real inconvenience...
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From:         "Dr. Mary Ellen Murray" <F_MURRAYME@CCSVAX.SFASU.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Carpal Tunnel - Keyboards?
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I'd be interested in that information on carpal tunnel syndrome, too!
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From:         Ian <S4IAN@IMERJ.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: "Error: Access Denied" message in WP
              27 Aug 1992 14:55:00 GMT from <RANDALLJC@CSOVAX.PORTSMOUTH.AC.UK>

On Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:55:00 GMT <RANDALLJC@CSOVAX.PORTSMOUTH.AC.UK> said:
>DOS's restrictions on numbers of files (112 or whatever) only apply to the
>root directory, so if a diskette has its maximum allocation of files but
>plenty of free space, the answer is to create a subdirectory and to put new
>files within that subdirectory.

Does that mean that a disk can hold 112 subdirectories from the root?

Ian

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From:         0084P@NAVPGS.BITNET
Subject:      printing color postscript

Does WP Sun, or WPWin print color postscript graphics? Will WPDos 6?
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From:         "Grace.Rodriguez" <ADP17@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Macro Programming Language

Talk about overlooking the obvious!   The missing {END IF} was exactly the
problem.  Thanks.
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From: mpalmer@encore.com (Mike Palmer)
Subject: Date code to Date text macro ideas wanted
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 16:07:44 GMT
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation

I'd like to have a macro to change the date code in my letters to the date text
so that when the letter is re-printed several months later the date will be 
the original letter date.

I have not found a way to "replace" date code with date text.  Doing a serach
for date code, backspace, then add the date text works, but messes up if
there is no date code found.  I don't know enough about macros to be able to
do conditionals in this way.

Any ideas of help would be appreciated.
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From:         Rusty Perrin <U7584RT@DOEMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Convert Perfect

From: Rusty Perrin
Sorry about the blank mail, I pressed F7 instead of F6 and off it went.
Anyhow, would you happen to know if ConvertPerfect can convert to/from Enable?
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From: mcke@unixg.ubc.ca (William McKellin )
Subject: WP Hypertext?
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 05:16:21 GMT

There are numerous hypertext programs that work with ascii files. Does
anyone know of one that works with WP files?


Bill McKellin                             mcke@unixg.ubc.ca
Department of Anthropology and Sociology
University of British Columbia
Vancouver, B.C. 
V6T 1Z1 

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From: mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen)
Subject: Re: "Error: Access Denied" message in WP
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 03:39:28 GMT

ELDJIVES@MIZZOU1.BITNET (David Ives) writes:

>It would be rather unlikely that all files on that one diskette are
>corrupted.  How many files are on it?  DOS lets you save only a certain number
>of files (I think 112) to a diskette, no matter how much space is
>available.

Yes, I found this out today too.  I hadn't realized MS-DOS had the
same limitations as Apple ProDOS.  1.2 meg floppies have a limit of
224 files and 360K floppies have one of 112.  Putting them all into a
subdirectory solves everything.

Thanks,
Mike
--
Michael Rosen						"Beer - It does
Tau Epsilon Phi - George Washington University		 a body good."
mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu
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