HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: diamant@fc.sde.hp.com (John Diamant)
Subject: Re: Bug in BUDDY v2.3?
Organization: HP SESD, Fort Collins, CO
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:54:53 GMT

Jeff Mattox (jeff@vme.heurikon.com) wrote:
: In article <1992Nov13.153529.28384@edsi.plexus.COM> chuck@edsi.plexus.COM (Chuck Tomasi) writes:
: >What I have found is when I hit MEMO-MEMO I am shown the C:\MEMOS\*.TXT
: >files and asked which file to open.  If I scroll down to ".." to tell it
: >to look up one directory (to the root level) it shows me all the
: >directories (since nothing in my root directory ends with *.TXT.)  If I
: >select _DAT, I am brought back to my C:\MEMOS directory.

I recently encountered another symptom of the same problem.  I just tried
changing my default directory and then the txt key (F4 -- which was intended to
bring it back to c:\_dat\*.txt) would get translated back to the default
directory again (so it was non-functional).

: I'm not sure exactly what you find wrong.

I'm not sure why it's not clear to you that something is wrong.  He typed in
a specific directory manually (via navigation) and it got translated to the
default directory unintentionally (which is certainly not desirable, since
he wouldn't have explicitly requested that directory had he wanted the 
default directory).  It is clear how this happened (since you can't tell
the difference between a manually requested use of the default directory
and a "default" use, but it's certainly desirable to fix) and that your options
are limited.  However, you suggest a great workaround below which can be
used to hide, if not fix this problem for everyone.

: You can fool 95BUDDY by typing "**.TXT" on line 2 of the file open menu
: and you will stay in DAT.  Does that help?

Great idea!  In that case, might I suggest that the default bcf file
shipped with buddy (and the built in defaults) use this trick for
specifying all the button directories which now have *.txt as well as
the memo default directory so that when the default directory is
changed, the user will most likely leave the double asterisk, and both
problems will be avoided (the txt button will work as expected and
navigation from one of the other button directories won't cause a
retranslation to the default directory).  It would probably be advisable
to do this with the default directories for the other applications since
they could get into a similar situation via navigation back to the original
default.


John Diamant
Software Engineering Systems Division
Hewlett Packard Co.		ARPA Internet: diamant@fc.sde.hp.com
Fort Collins, CO		UUCP:  {hpfcla,hplabs}!hpfclp!diamant

This response does not represent the official position of, or statement
by, the Hewlett-Packard Company.  The above data is provided for informational
purposes only.  It is supplied without warranty of any kind.
Note: While I do work for HP, I have no connection with the division that
makes the HP95LX other than as a satisfied user.
From: anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Used HP95?
Date: 24 Nov 1992 00:54:44 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <1992Nov23.235930.11324@netnews.synoptics.com> ericd@synoptics.com writes:
>What is the going rate for a slightly used (in well condition) 512K 95
>going for these days?

Well, a brand new 512KB 95 is $369, 1MB 95 is $549 from:
S&W Computers & Electronics
31 West 21 Street
New York, NY 10010
800-874-1235
212-463-8330
212-463-8335 fax, vmail

Sometimes stores will sell shopworn 512KB machines for as little as $300.

I have no connection with S&W, I've seen their ads in Byte.
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From: biere@coffee.fsl.noaa.gov (Mike Biere)
Subject: Problem with HP-95LX Display
Organization: Forecast Systems Lab, NOAA - Boulder CO, USA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:58:55 GMT

The display on my 95LX is starting to go bad.  It flashes briefly when I
turn it on, then goes totally blank.  Flexing the display slightly eventually
fixes the problem, but it is getting worse.  I vaguely remember someone
describing how they disassembled and fixed their palmtop with this same
problem.  Since I'm out of warranty, I'd like to give it a try.  Could someone
who's done this give me some pointers?

Thanks!
Mike
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From: tpb9k@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Thomas P. Bleck)
Subject: Re: Software using Zeos COM port
Keywords: COM Programming RS232 UART Zeos
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 16:27:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.163949.3296@nic.csu.net> swatson@sparc1.csubak.edu (Sean Watson) writes:
>Has anyone out on the net been able to use any RS232 software that wasn't
>supplied in the Zeos Palmtop's ROM (ie, software other than Works, Interlink,

Yes, I've run both Procomm Plus and PCAnywhere 4.5 on the Zeos without any 
problem.  A loaded them onto the PCMCIA card as the a: drive.  To use them,
one has to go into the setup program and turn on the serial port, but other
than this I didn'y experience any problems.

If you have a specific question, I'd be happy to respond via email.


--
Tom Bleck    (Thomas P. Bleck, M.D.)   tbleck@virginia.edu
Departments of Neurology and Neurological Surgery
University of Virginia School of Medicine
___________________________________________________________
From: anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Which palmtop?
Date: 19 Nov 1992 02:26:57 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <1eer54INNj1v@huon.itd.adelaide.edu.au> ptaplin@escher.arch.adelaide.edu.au (Paul Taplin) writes:
>I'm keen on getting myself a palmtop as an organiser and note-taking

>reviews that suggest that the Portfolio is more suited to this task
>than the HP.

Information on various palmtops can be found via anonymous ftp at
csd4.csd.uwm.edu:/pub/Palmtop.  This includes postings to various
newsgroups and information I've culled from various other sources.
Check out pcmcia.machines in particular.

The Portfolio has a bigger and somewhat easier to type on keyboard than
the HP, however, the Fujitsu, Memorex, Sharp, and Zeos machines have
even bigger keyboards.
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From: chuck@edsi.plexus.COM (Chuck Tomasi)
Subject: Re: More thought on Wizard vs. HP95lx
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 19:13:32 GMT

gcs@edsi.plexus.COM (Greg C. Steiner) writes:

:)Another feature I like about the Wizard over the HP is the 
:)availability of program cards (IC's).  I recently purchased (via 
:)the net, thanks Duane) the 8-language translator card.  It's well 
:)done.  If the need arises, I wouldn't hesitate getting other cards 
:)if they are as well done as the language card.

PCMCIA cards are also available for the HP95LX with various programs on
the market.

The bulk of the 95LX doesn't bother me since it fits in my pants pocket
or inside coat pocket just fine and that's alright with me.  The Zeos is
a little large to be called a palmtop or fit in my pocket however.

I think my favorite feature about the 95LX is the capability to add in 
programs (both .EXE and .EXM [sysmgr compliant]).  I have added in 
WEEKABK which is a "week at a glance" program which works in 
conjunction with the built in appointment book program, CLOCK which 
displays the time in a variety of formats, KLONDIKE which is a 
solitaire game, ZIP (not PKZIP) for transferring files quickly between 
my PC and 95LX (much faster than the built in comm program.)  I expect 
to pick up the IR95 program which will make use of the infrared serial 
port to add yet another feature of being a programmable remote control 
for my TV/VCR/stereo to the 95LX.  I keep looking forward to what people
are developing for the machine.

As far as price goes... I didn't consider it as my wife bought me a
Radio Shack organizer for Christmas last year and I "earned" the 95LX
for doing a presentation at an HP Users Group in March.  My wife got the
RS organizer once I manually transferred the data into the 95LX.  Now I
have another chance to win a 95LX in a drawing (hopefully a 1MB unit) in
which case the 512K 95LX will go to my wife.

It should be noted that I don't know much about the Wizard 8000 and
Psion.  Can someone tell me if they can run DOS programs or have add-in
capability?
-- 
Chuck Tomasi             |   Old programmers never die
chuck@edsi.plexus.COM    |   They just branch to a new address
MiSTie #2356             |   
------<Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton Wisconsin>------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: russsan@microsoft.com (Russell Sanchez)
Subject: Re: Psion Series 3 Battery Question
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:02:44 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1992Nov21.115807.88@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> nrf@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (neal.r.fildes) writes:
>From article <Bxyz5A.EGx@fsg.com>, by jeremy@fsg.com (Jeremy C.M. Sevareid):
>> 
>> My new Psion Series 3 (V. 180F/ENG) occassionally flashes
>> a warning message.  It says that the main battery is low.
>> 
>> But, when I check the batteries with the System Info menu
>> item Batteries, it says that the main battery is good.
>> What's going on here?
>> 
>
>in the US, psion recommends that you use only 'copper-top' batteries because
>the contacts are designed for UK batteries, and the only US manufacturer
>whos batteries are similiar is duracell.
>
>nrf

I have used ONLY duracells on my P3 for the three months I have owned it.
However, I get the same contradictory messages.  Even the System Info
will switch back and forth between "low" and "good".
You will find the same thing happens with the backup battery.
It may be that the battery level sensor is so sensitive that even temperature
variations effect it.  I don't mind! The more warning, the better!
In the end, I replace the batteries only when System Info consistently says
they are low.

Russ
From: anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: HP95 scientific calculator
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:30:04 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <20276@acorn.co.uk> asmith@acorn.co.uk (Andy Smith) writes:
>By standard operations, I mean AND, OR, NOT, rotate left/right, shift left/
>right, convert from base to base, etc.

The cmcalc17.zip application on eddie.mit.edu will do the above right
now, but it's strictly integer only.  It uses the same style interface
as HPCalc and is designed to work along with it.

Note that the MS-DOS version of freyja has an HP-45 like calculator
built into it.  The SysMgr freyja doesn't have the calculator as the
Turbo C floating point library uses interupts which are forbidden by
SysMgr.  The MS-DOS version can be configured to use the 95's screen
geometry and keyboard.
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From: gyugyi@leland.Stanford.EDU (Paul Gyugyi)
Subject: Re: HP95 scientific calculator
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 22:48:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.055852.23273@williams.edu>, 93jay@williams.edu (Jonathan Young) writes:
...
|> Since you can't throw a brick on usenet without hitting a few PhD's,
|> EECS' and assorted computer studs I'd like to know what features
|> people would want in such a beast. Post or email, any suggestions or
|> advice welcome...
|> 

I'd like to see a HP15C with one addition:  Have the stack 
displayed on the screen, say at the left side.  I had an MSDOS
program that did that, and my friends found RPN to be *much* easier
to learn/use with the stack visible.

-- 
Paul J. Gyugyi
Grad student, control systems, Stanford University
(and an avid LEGO collector)
gyugyi@earthsea.Stanford.EDU
From: graff@vnet.ibm.com (Michael Graff)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 13:18:26 PST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Resume on HP 95

In <1edoqqINN935@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu> Michael Perelman writes:

>Does the HP 95 have a resume feature, or do you have to reboot each time you
>turn it on.

Gosh yes, it has a resume feature.  And the built-in programs have
task-switching between them (including Lotus 123).

...Michael Graff
From: 93jay@williams.edu (Jonathan Young)
Subject: Re: HP95 scientific calculator
Organization: Williams College, Williamstown, MA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:22:22 GMT

>Providing the functions that are directly accessable from the keyboard of
>the 48 would also be useful, though a number of these are already in the
>19B. As far as the user interface goes, I agree that the menu system can 
>be a pain on the 95, more so than the 48, but the more options you have, the
>harder it is to map them all to keys.
>
>It would be beneficial to stay with the same format as the built in calculator
>and possibly try and interface to it, rather than directly replace it. Or
>is this difficult? It just may save a lot of work if you use whats already 
>there.
>
Actually this would be pretty hard. The built in clalculator uses
proprietary HP math routines which are not directly available to other
applications. It might be possible to have a program call the
calculator and then try to figure out the calls to the calc's
functions but I think it would just be simpler to roll your own as it
were.

>
>Andy Smith  

Jonathan Young

Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: 93jay@williams.edu (Jonathan Young)
Subject: Re: Essential 95LX programs
Organization: Williams College, Williamstown, MA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 09:42:35 GMT

>mjohnson@force.decnet.lockheed.com (Mark E. Johnson) writes:
>
>>I love to try new programs on my PC, however, and I'm anxious to do the
>>same with the palmtop. I've downloaded the index of files at eddie.mit.edu;
>>which programs are the best, which should I try first? I already know about
>>95Buddy, and nothing can stop me from trying the games. But what else? (Not
>>Freyja, since I think Memo is sufficient.)
>
>95Buddy first and foremost. This provides what the 95 would otherwise be
>missing. If your into games then the Chess by Andy Glaister is a must, but
>its a bit heavy on the batteries, so an AC adaptor is wise. 

[stuff deleted]
>
>The other thing that is a definate, is a serial cable or a RAM card to make
>backups, certain pd games can corrupt your RAM disc, so be careful. The Andy
>Glaister ones seem to be safe, but I'm still trying to get hold of him to
>see if he ever finished a system manager compliant version.

He did, I beta tested a suite of games for him which he is now
marketing through Sparcom. Chess, Checkers Backgammon and Space
Invaders all are sysmgr compliant except Space Invaders (which is an
excellent game and draws a crowd like those first laptops.. "You can
plan space invaders on that thing! Let me try! You practically have to
fight people off with a stick." Invaders does disable the light sleep
mode so it drains batteries pretty quickly.

These games are commercial but pretty cheap and should be listed in
the EDUCalc catalog. 

My favorite Shareware game has to be Klondike. I play this for hours
on airplanes till my fingers go numb. I believe that it is on
eddie.mit.edu but failing that the author's address is
	Ed Greenberg
	POB 28618
	San Jose, CA 95159

>
>>-Mark Johnson                             
>>mjohnson@force.decnet.lockheed.com
>
>Enjoy
>
>Andy

Jonathan Young
Williams College
From: cchung@sneezy.phy.duke.edu (Charles Chung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: HP95 scientific calculator
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:11:59 GMT

> In article <1992Nov18.055852.23273@williams.edu>
> 93jay@williams.edu (Jonathan Young) writes: 
> I have long been frustrated by the built in calculator on
> the HP95, too many useless "business" functions and not
> worth the effort for scientific use. I find myself
> carrying around my old HP 42 for lab work when this was one
> of my justifications for one of my favorite toys.

Isn't it nuts to carry around a HP95 and a calculator?

I would say that the most useful functions for me would be:

-Unit Conversions
-Fundamental Constants
-2D graphing
-Could handle complex numbers.

-It would be helpful if the calculator could  multiply out vectors  
and matrices.  Take inverses of matrices as well as finding  
eigenvectors and values.

-A way to input and output fractions would be useful

-Like the constants, a place to store the most used functions like:
	-Bessel Fns
	-Legendre Polynomials
	-Spherical Harmonics
	-Hermite/Laguerre/Chebyshev...
	-etc.
	-Distributions
		-Gaussian
		-Poisson
		-Maxwell-Boltzmann
		-Fermi/Dirac
		-Bose/Einstein
I wouldn't do anything fancy with them, but have them stored so that  
they could be graphed, or so I could get the value of BesselJ[n,Pi]  
(Can you tell that I use Mathematica?)  I guess if there was a way to  
store complicated polynomial expressions and just be able to evaluate  
them would be useful.
Actually, using Mathematica input commands/formats could be good for  
being able to port expressions to that program.

Just a couple of ideas.

-Chuck
Xref: sparky comp.sys.palmtops:3685 comp.windows.x.apps:1513
From: anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops,comp.windows.x.apps
Subject: Re: xcalc in slide rule mode
Followup-To: comp.windows.x.apps
Date: 18 Nov 1992 22:04:33 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <BxxLHL.7By@mail.boi.hp.com> stringha@mail.boi.hp.com (Gary Stringham) writes:
>>an old version of the X Window System xcalc did in fact have an analog
>>mode that popped up a slide rule, pretty accurate too I hear.
>Cool!  How do you invoke it?  There is no mention of it in the man page

Try "xcalc -analog".  At least it worked in X11R2, I think.
Crossposts and followups to comp.windows.x.apps.
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From: ericd@synoptics.com (Eric Davis)
Subject: Used HP95?
Reply-To: ericd@synoptics.com
Organization: Synoptics Inc. Santa Clara, California.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:59:30 GMT


What is the going rate for a slightly used (in well condition) 512K 95
going for these days?

Thanks
Eric


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From: cedler@boi.hp.com (Chris Edler)
Subject: Re: Data Entry on 95lx
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:39:03 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

Hans de Vreught (hdev@dutiag.tudelft.nl) wrote:
: 
: I think they have created a hard link NEW to the inbound directory so
: everything that is send in becomes visible in NEW. The system manager is away
: for a couple of months due to an accident (or something like that). So you
: have to look in the directory distrib/hp95lx/NEW.
: --
: Hans de Vreught                          | John von Neumann:
: hdev@dutiba.twi.tudelft.nl               | Young man, in mathematics
: Delft University of Technology (TWI-ThI) | you don't understand things,
: The Netherlands                          | you just get used to them.

..I just tried getting into the inbound directory on eddie, and got a
"permission denied".  Any ideas?  Any other ftp sites have the new stuff?

Thanks,
Chris  

--
Christopher Edler				Hewlett-Packard Company	
cedler@boi.hp.com				Boise, Idaho USA
From: falk@peregrine.Sun.COM (Ed Falk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Resume on HP 95
Date: 19 Nov 1992 02:35:11 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: peregrine

In article <1edoqqINN935@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu> michael@ecst.csuchico.edu (Michael Perelman) writes:
>
>Does the HP 95 have a resume feature, or do you have to reboot each time you
>turn it on.

Absolutely.  Turn it off any time you want, and it will be exactly
as you left it when you turn it back on.

(Exceptions: after a battery failure.  There are times when it ignores
the ON/OFF key.)

		-ed falk, sun microsystems
		 sun!falk, falk@sun.com
To be loyal to rags, to shout for rags, to worship rags, to die for rags 
-- that is a loyalty of unreason, it is pure animal (Mark Twain).
From: anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Mimimum memory software for palmtops?
Date: 24 Nov 1992 00:47:17 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Keywords: palmtops small programs minimum memory use

In article <eric.722553819@zen> eric@zen.maths.uts.edu.au (Eric Lindsay) writes:

>I'm trying Q-Edit as an editor replacement (VDE wouldn't handle my file sizes)
  I use MG, which is an emacs editor, and Free-VI for short quick
editing.  Check out the MS-DOS editors directory on a SIMTEL20 mirror,
there are some nice, and some very small editors there.  In particular
try terse which is only 4KB.

>but can anyone suggest a suitable spreadsheet, and also a small general 
  There is a "lite" version of AsEasyAs, but I've never used it.

>the same one on the machines at the other end (I'll try Kermit first, but 
>that is nearly 100k, and I can't really spare the space).
  Get MS-Kermit 2.30 and then use PKLite or Diet (my favorite) and
compress it down to about 60KB.  Older MS-Kermit versions are even smaller.
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From: asmith@acorn.co.uk (Andy Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Essential 95LX programs
Date: 23 Nov 92 09:10:28 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Limited, Cambridge, UK

mjohnson@force.decnet.lockheed.com (Mark E. Johnson) writes:


>I love to try new programs on my PC, however, and I'm anxious to do the
>same with the palmtop. I've downloaded the index of files at eddie.mit.edu;
>which programs are the best, which should I try first? I already know about
>95Buddy, and nothing can stop me from trying the games. But what else? (Not
>Freyja, since I think Memo is sufficient.)

95Buddy first and foremost. This provides what the 95 would otherwise be
missing. If your into games then the Chess by Andy Glaister is a must, but
its a bit heavy on the batteries, so an AC adaptor is wise. 

If your into drawing, get a copy of pixer, computing get cmcalc17, or sound
get the HP sound stuff.

If you can't spell, like me, then the dictionary card is a wise move. IT
gives you 116,000 words plus deffinitions in a 2Mb card, you also get
spell checker, thesaurus and a very good hangman game:-)

The other thing that is a definate, is a serial cable or a RAM card to make
backups, certain pd games can corrupt your RAM disc, so be careful. The Andy
Glaister ones seem to be safe, but I'm still trying to get hold of him to
see if he ever finished a system manager compliant version.

>-Mark Johnson                             
>mjohnson@force.decnet.lockheed.com

Enjoy

Andy
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