From: j_babylo@oz.plymouth.edu (Jessica L. Babylon)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Picking up the Tab (was: Re: What is gold-digging?)
Summary: Whafuck?
Date: 22 Dec 92 19:03:41 GMT
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, NH.

In article <102594@netnews.upenn.edu> crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.203306.13633@cs.ucla.edu> gds@cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner) writes:
>
>>However I won't say that this is cheesy and classless (because after
>>all, what is chessy and classless is dependent on point of view
>>regarding etiquette, etc.).  I think as we move forward in time and
>>turn our backs on antiquated notions about dating, women can (and
>>should) expect to pay for themselves on a date.
>
>My, this is getting interesting.
>
>OK, here's a scenario.  This happened about a month ago to a friend of
>mine.  Let's call her Jane.  She hadn't dated anyone in a long time.  A man
>she didn't know well but who seemed nice asked her out to dinner and a
>symphony orchestra concert.  Let's call him Sam.  She said yes.  They'd
>never been out together before.
>
>The big evening arrives.  He asks her to drive to the restaurant and meet
>him there (she lives quite far away).  Fine.  They meet at the restaurant,
>and she discovers that another couple will be joining them.  She knows the
>man in the other couple pretty well (call him Joe), and they're friends, so
>she's a bit surprised but thinks it's fine.  They eat dinner.  The check
>comes.  Joe pays for himself and his date.  Sam, however, only pays his
>half of the bill, leaving Jane to pay her half.  
>
>They get to the concert.  "By the way," says Sam, "the ticket is $40." 
>(Joe, meanwhile, has paid for his date.)  So Jane pays that, too.
>
>POP QUIZ:  
>1) When Sam asked Jane out again a couple of weeks later, what do
>you think her response was?  
>
>2) Do you think Jane thought to herself:
>	
>	a. "That Sam, what a prince of a guy!"
>  
>	b. "Sure hope he asks me out again!"
>
>	c. "I feel like a total scumwad and intend to join a convent.
>	    But first I hope he gets incurable hives."
>
In all honesty poor pitiful Jane probably thought along the lines of
letter c, but i think you are a boob merely because you attribute to
Jane the quality of putting down and degrading herself, because some
guy is a dork? If you want to have a movement called Menism, go right
ahead, but until it becomes social standard for women to ask men out
without getting thorough guilt trips about what the neighbors and
friends will think, it should be the responsibility of whomever does
the asking out to either pay for the date or make arrangments for
going dutch, or asking about financial situations. Shit, if you can
spend an evening with someone why can't you ask them if they mind
helping out with expenses? Get off the fuckin dildo. And get a clue
you twit.

- INDEED "post 'em and toast 'em" the Goddess

>
> 
>-- 
>The trick of reason is to get the imagination to seize the actual world --
>if only from time to time.     -- Annie Dillard, "An American Childhood"
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>Lauren Crawford  //  crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu