From: eshin@ddsw1.mcs.com (Eshin-Fun)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Re: Ceremony Suggestions?
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:29:31 GMT
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago IL
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i>>post@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (David Post) writes:
: May I have some guidance, please?  I think I could use some.
: 
: The short story is a boy is about to be born and I have been asked to do a
: ceremony for his circumcision.  Neither of his parents are Christian or have
: spiritual purposes in mind for doing this.
: 
: It is to be done for hygenic, aesthetic and medical reasons.<<

According to Pagan tradition, circumcision is considered barbaric and only
in a few isolated instances does it seem if at all practiced.

There are >NO< hygenic, or aesthetic or medical reasons to induce this
custom that *was* practiced by the ancient Egyptians for certain religious
purposes. Yet the greater number of Ka statues of kings remain
uncircumcised. It is traditionally thought that this practice was initiated
by Abraham as a covenant with his god. Thus the Islamic cult follows this
practice.

In the early annals of conversion into Christianity it was a stipulation
along with learning how to read and write that did not go over very well and
when both reading/writing and circumcision was abolished as a prime
prerequisite of becoming a Christian it was then and only then that it
allowed Christianity to become popular.

From a Pagan point of view it seems that having the choice it is better not
to mutilate the body as it is an offense to the gods' creation and it
further would identify the child to a group that would not be favorable to
Pagan beliefs. 

This is a generality not a law written in stone so save your *flame* fuel.

It seems that in ancient times the beauty of a boy was his uncircumcised
penus and to mutilate it would be unattractive. If the parents worry that
the boy would grow what is commonly called a closed penus, they should teach
the child how to cleanse himself and learn how to pull the foreskin back a
little at a time.

Unfortunately today, a lot of men are homophobic and dread the idea of
talking to their child about such things let alone showing them what to do
which they usually dump on the mother's lap's responsibility. Also there is
an attitude that if the child has a foreskin and the father does not they
can't identify. This is a lot of bunk!

In the ministry of Venus, the unmitigated penus has a greater sensitivity
for sexual pleasure than those that are circumcised and provide a preseminal
fluid that assists in its entry along with its female partner's'. The danger
is in that this preseminal fluid, which can exist without sexual intent, can
become lodged inside the foreskin, and if the male does not wash, pulling
the foreskin back, it can in time become curdled and giving off an acrid
smell as it putrefies. The circumcised penus looses this preseminal liquid
as it has nothing to retain it and in time of rubbing against clothes
desensitizes its response to it being touched.

In the art of Love or as the Greeks called it "Indulging Sports" the penus,
the vagina, clitoris and anus are places where hygene is paramount. This is
the reason for a bidet in the bathroom that is practically unknown in the
United States. Its popularity, however seems to be coming back as numerous
of bathrom fixture stores now carry them. But washing, or douches are still
a good alternative.

Eshin-Fun
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