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From: emp1@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Ernest M. Paik)
Subject: Re: XTC Recommendations
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 14 Oct 92 05:14:55 GMT

stuarts@carr55.alleg.edu (Scott Stuart) writes:


>	Dear XTC fans (especially Lisa) -

>The reason I didn't include WaxWorks and the Compact XTC is that they  
>don't include songs not on Rag and Bone Buffet or the albums so ther's no  
>reason to buy them.  

Just to clear things up, Waxworks DOES have stuff unavailable on the albums.
The XTC completists will want "Wait 'Til Your Boat Goes Down", and at least
one other song is a different version than the album version (the Waxworks
"Senses Working Overtime" has an abbreviated "Doo-doo-doo-doo" section).
The Compact XTC has all of Waxworks plus six more songs, from "Mummer" and
"The Big Express" (I believe the songs are "Great Fire", "Wonderland",
"Love on a Farmboy's Wages", "Wake Up", "All You Pretty Girls", and "This
World Over")

>The Dukes of Stratospear album was reissued on Geffen  
>America as "Chips From the Chocolate Fireball" replacing the EP entitled
>"Psychic Psunspot" I beleive, or something along those lines.  I'll check.   

Close.  "Chips from the Chocolate Fireball" includes the 1985 EP 
"25 O'Clock" along with the 1987 album "Psonic Psunspot".  An excellent
tribute to the psychedelic sixties, with convincingly authentic music.

Personally, I think there's no such thing as a bad or even mediocre XTC
album.  For the budding fan, "Skylarking" and "English Settlement" are
definitely MUST-BUY's...their first two albums are excellent, but may
shock someone who is only familiar with their more refined stuff.  

"I was lucky to remain beguiled
 Grown to child since mermaid smiled"

I think "Rag and Bone Buffet" is worth the price just for "Mermaid Smiled",
a truly sublime song.  Makes me want to quit school and run around in a
grassy field.  >sigh<

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From: glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gordon Locke  )
Subject: Re: Joy Div trivia
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 22:24:59 GMT

	I heard that New Order got their name from the name of a youth
wing of the Nazi party, a sort of Hitler youth thing.  I _severely_
doubt that they're fascist or Nazi themselves, though!

	- Gord
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From: kimp@rs6407.ecs.rpi.edu (Phil Kim)
Subject: Barbra Streisand?
Reply-To: kimp@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:33:35 GMT

Well, I am sure most people using this conference don't listen to Babs, but for those people who do, I need recommendations on good Babs CDs.  Thanks
From: kwelch@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Kevin C. Welch)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: REM (again) 4/R question
Date: 10 Oct 92 02:24:53 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <92283.214634EMC110@psuvm.psu.edu> EMC110@psuvm.psu.edu (elissa cunniff) writes:
>Ok, so we know that there are 4's over the R's on Green.  But what about
>this one: I recently bought Life's Rich Pageant on cd.  On the cd itself,
>where the songs are listed (and numbered), there's an R instead of the
>number 4 for the 4th track.  The cd was most likely manufactured after Green
>came out, which would kinda explain this allusion, but I was just wondering
>if anybody else had noticed this on their cd.  No comment about the number
>conspiracy theory....

I think the R on Pageant is there for perhaps the same reason the 4 is
superimposed on the R in Green - a typo.  It could also be just a
little quirk REM added, like not putting "untitled" rather a blank
for song 11 on Green.  They're weird that way.


>                                      -=-=-=-elissa.
>              "baby, instant soup doesn't really grab me"
>                                         -j.m. stipe
>
>     p.s. does anybody out there know what the 'j' stands for????

john michael stipe.

kcw


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From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Subject: Re: Whatever happened to....
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:33:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.193324.3745@news.Hawaii.Edu> mwasson@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Michael Wasson) writes:
>Elliott Sharp?

   His latest album is called _Toc'sin_.  More straightforward but not bad
   at all.

>UT?
>
  I wish they had something new out. But they don't.

>Scrawl?

     They have a 7" on Sol records called "Just Plain Bad".  VERY good.

>
>Have any of these people done anything lately (like, in the last year or
>so)?  Note that they have almost nothing in common, I just found myself
>wondering ....
>

   Look above.

                                                                K!z!K
From: mchi@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Michael M Chi)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: erasure, new order, morrissey tour dates
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:41:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


Does anyone know if erasure is currently on tour?  I'm at Penn in
Philadelphia, and a lot of groups come here, but I have yet to 
hear of Erasure, New Order, or Morrissey.  If anyone knows of them,
can you email me?  mchi@eniac.seas.upenn.edu

Also, any info on Erasure, (like anything new released or anything)
would be appreciated....

					Michael Chi
From: Nathan.H.Saunders@dartmouth.edu (Nathan H. Saunders)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: R.E.M. countdown theory
Date: 9 Oct 92 11:33:25 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu


Am I the only one who thought that Document was labeled number 5
because it's R.E.M. fifth full-length original release (i.e., not
including _Chronic Town_ or _Dead Letter Office_)?

The 4 on _Green_ I took as just an inside joke I'll never understand
and left it as that.

_Out of TIme_ has three words?  Now you're pushing it.

No...  Wait...  I was wrong!  I found the number 2 on _AFTP_!  Really! 
Grab your copy!  

On this album - this is only on cassette and vinyl copies, mind you -
the album is presented to the consumer in TWO SIDES.

One more album to go...

 - nathan
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Subject: Re: Sinead does SNL
From: djperry@husc11.harvard.edu (Lord of deXness)
Date: 13 Oct 92 03:30:12 EDT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Oct12.113713.19581@hemlock.cray.com> jrn@redwood21.cray.com (Jim Nemmers) writes:
>
>
>This is not the issue though. The issue is using SNL's invitation to entertain
>an audience to voice/display her religious convictions. I vote no!
>

Why not?  It was her performance.  It might not have been the WISEST thing to 
do, true, but if (the old) Amy Grant or Michael W. Smith were up there, we
would've heard happy-God songs.  Would you tell THEM to sing something else?

deX!
 


-- 
Hate is a fuzzy puppy.

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From: cashaw@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Craig Shaw)
Subject: Re: Primus Sucks!
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:12:24 GMT

In article <08OCT92.19015025.0130@VM1.MCGILL.CA>, BFA0@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA (BFA0) writes:
> 
> Has anyone heard the new Primus EP? Is it as amazing as it should
> be?
> 
> later..
Which ep are you referring to?  I know they have released a couple of them a while back, "Miscellaneous Debris" and another which I can't remember the name of right now.



					Craig.
From: a0s5102@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Mitchell R Dickerman)
Subject: Re: Beautiful South/Housemartins QUESTION
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 04:26:43 GMT

>> I guess I'll just take this opportunity to start a thread for Beautiful South
>> fans.  Does anyone know if they released any other songs off 0898 besides "We
>> Are Each Other"?  I think they could make a pretty amusing video for "Some-
>> thing That You Said".
>I think they released "Old Red Eyes Is Back."   

They also released "Bell Bottomed Tear" and just recently "36D" (my personal
favorite).

Mitch
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Subject: New Charlatans?
From: Christopher John Cenkner <cc6f+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 15:50:21 -0400 
Organization: Sophomore, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I heard a rumor on Pittsburgh radio that the CharlatansUK have a new
album out.  Is this true? Thanx, 



						-Sergeant Pepper
___________________________________________
{Christopher J. Cenkner<cc6f@andrew.cmu.edu>}

"Well it was twenty years ago today,/
  Sergeant Pepper taught the band to play..."   -Lennon/McCartney
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From: schansen@amc.com (Scott Hansen)
Subject: RAMONES/SOCIAL D.
Organization: Applied Microsystems, Redmond, WA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:33:54 GMT

>was just wondering if anyone out there knew where and when the proposed
>Ramones/Social D. tour was kicking off and dates places etc. please
>post if have any information.

Well, I saw the show here in Seattle last Wednesday (10/07/92), but
I haven't seen a tour schedule around...

1-2-3-4!

-Scott
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From: Christopher.Carne@brunel.ac.uk (Christopher J Carne)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Have the Orb used Floyd samples ?
Date: 12 Oct 92 10:24:02 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK

Anybody fancy a really pointless favourite Orb samples thread.

Or maybe just a few notables.

Steve Reich's  Electronic Counterpoint provides the main theme for
Little Fluffly Clouds.
Victor Lewis-Smith does all that phone stuff at the start of Towers of
Dub.
The 'Hello I'm Rags' line in Towers of Dub is from Woody Allen's Sleeper.

I've not noticed any obvious Floyd samples, though I've by no means heard
all the Orb's stuff and I'm not *that* familiar with Floyd. ['So it's a
bit of a waste of time you replying to this question then']  

BTW The Orb did a really naff cover of 'No Fun' on their recent Peel
session. Which must rank up there with Chumbawamba's cover of Viva Espana
as the most bizzarre cover of the year.  Though The Jesus Lizard covering
Little Fluffy Clouds might be even more odd. Hmmm


'The sky starts at your feet,
Think of how brave you are to walk around.'

Be seeing you,


CHR$
From: x3460afe@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: smashing pumpkins
Date: 12 Oct 92 08:12:30 GMT
Reply-To: x3460afe@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: University of Florida - CIRCA

well, the peel sessions are , well, just peel sessions, and the "i am one"
ep is , i believe, a reissue of their very first singels	sorry, 
single because the song "i am one" is on the 7 inch i have, which is 
their first
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From: dhoffman@spot.Colorado.EDU (David Hoffman)
Subject: XTC recommendation
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:19:48 GMT

For my money, "Black Sea" is one of the best albums Andy Partridge and Co. have
released, even after putting out "Skylarking" and "Oranges & Lemons"...songs
like "Respectable Street", "Living Through Another Cuba" ("put your head
between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye"), "Generals and Majors", and
"Sgt. Rock (Is Going To Help Me)" are absolute classics.  It's not as refined
as their latest material, and it's not as quirky as "Go2" or "Drums and Wires".
Highly recommended material!!

Dave Hoffman
University of Colorado, Boulder

(John Denver SUCKS!)
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Subject: Re: Cure: I Wish...
From: ibhan@husc8.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan)
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:46:28 GMT
 <u882517.718937555@bruny> <Bw1KJ8.BxM@acsu.buffalo.edu><u882517.719045441@bruny> <werKyk_00WDKI1oohu@andrew.cmu.edu>

Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>>>
>over, and the Cure just can't keep pace.  Sad, but true...even Robert says
>Ride is his favourite band.  (Need I say more?)
><<

>and that's supposed to prove....what? Robert also says the only Cure album
>he listens to is "Mixed Up" which most Cure fans abhor with a passion.

Where did you get the idea that most Cure fans abhor it with a passion. 
It's a great disc, in my opinion.  It's nice hearing new versions of the
old songs, especially since some of them give the song a new flavor (the
Caterpillar - more dreamy, Close To Me - closer to what it should have
been).  In fact, I like many of the remixes better than the original
mixes.  
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From: v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Warlock Pinchers
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:02:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I was wondering if anybody had some information about the WarLock Pinchers.
They did songs like "Morrisey Rides a C0ckHorse" and "Where the Hell is
Crispin Glover?".


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From: peters@convex.COM (James Peters)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: joy division
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:44:11 GMT
Reply-To: peters@convex.COM (James Peters)
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Originator: peters@mikey
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In article <37326@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> x3460afe@maple.circa.ufl.edu writes:
>j.d. went on to form new order when the lead singer ian curtis died
>( suicide) and the members of new order are currently doing solo things
>like revenge, electronic, and the other twwo....

as an aside joy divison is mentioned in gregg araki's film "the living end".
the main characters discuss suicide and the method employed by ian curtis,
standing on a block of ice with his head in a noose. btw the sound track
is exclusively wax trax artists. i recommend the movie highly, but anytime
i hear tkk's sexplosion i have flashbacks.

regards,
james, peters@convex.com
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From:  (J Klein)
Subject: Re: Joy Div trivia
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Organization: Public Macs, Academic Computing, Yale University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:23:03 GMT

> during world war ii the nazis had several 'divisions' in the death camps. 
> one of these divisions dealt with sexual experimentation performed on 
> inmates of the camps. they would remove womens' breasts, mens' penises, 
> etc... they wanted to see how people reacted. this was called the 'joy 
> division'. also, hitler proposed what was translated as a 'new order'. 
> what do you make of this?

		You are correct about the origin of Joy Division's name.  They took it
from that part of the death camps where prostitutes were.  The group, I
believe, has fully explained the derivation of their name, and was simply
another ironic twist on the utter desolation and depression of their songs.
		With the name "New Order," there unquestionably seems to be a pattern
emerging, and the group has been accused of neo-nazism more than once for
this "coincidence."  However, the members have vehemently denied any truth
to this rumour and there is little evidence in their music, lyrics, or
personal statements/lifestyle to corroborate any such claims.
		It would be silly to argue their intent in self-naming, and speculation
would probably be a dead end street, with no one satisfied in the end.
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From: s14182sm@UMASSD.EDU
Subject: REM Songs
Reply-To: s14182sm@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:29:03 GMT

If anyone has a tape or song that I need, please get in contact with
me for a COPY of what you have.Fee.
Here's the albums I have:
chronic town
murmur
life's rich pageant
fables of the reconstruction
reckoning
document
green
dead letter...
out of time
automatic...                             Steve
From: kwelch@stipple.seas.upenn.edu (Kevin C. Welch)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: R.E.M. breaking up -- maybe a rumor, but what if...?
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:08:00 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Oct9.135801.2558@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> ctatro@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher D Tatro) writes:

>     Okay, people, okay!  I was only joking when I put the "5,4,3,2,1" 
>hypothesis out there!  I certainly don't take it (or myself, for that matter) 
>seriously, and neither should you!
>     It seems to be established that they'll be kicking about until 2000 in one
>form or another.  Sorry if I sent anyone into severe depression!

Well, the number theory is a huge debate, but it means nothing.


>ps. I still think they should have kept the name "Buckets of Piss", or maybe 
>even made their temporary stints as "Bingo Handjob" or "Beastpenis" permanent.
>But then these guys won't even call it "Fuck me Kitten" on the album cover.  Oh
>well.

Bingo Hand Job was a pretty neat name to keep, but I think if they were
to change their name, or for that matter keep a temporary name,
they should have kept:  Hornets AttaK Victor Mature from the Fables-Pageant
days...

Fuck me Kitten was changed to Star me Kitten to avoid those little
"Parental Advisory" stickers.  Besides, good ole southern band like
rem "KUSS" ???!?  Nahhh...

kcw
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From: chc30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Have the Orb used Floyd samples ?
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:29:13 GMT
Reply-To: chc30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com ()
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

I was wondering with the Battersea Power Station on the cover of Beyond
The Ultraworld and the Orb saying how they like Pink Floyd whether any
Floyd samples have been used. I know I have heard a sample from the
computer game Captain Blood on one of the Ultraworld tracks, it's the
"speech" of one of the aliens in the game. The track Backside of the Moon
has Apollo samples from a BBC documentary about Apollo (a friend has it on
video). Little Fluffy Clouds has speech from a documentary but I forget
who it is, she wasn't too happy anyway since they aren't meant to be
allowed to use it again.
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From: kbennett@milton.u.washington.edu (K. Lena Bennett; Slacker Goddess)
Subject: Re: XTC <--- Recommendations?
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:32:11 GMT

English Settlement is one of the most classic "alternative" albums
of all time.... Somehow I didn't like them as much when they got
more "polished", more "mature," less "punk" -- even though they were
still very good.

Anyway, I'd recommend highly.

Lena
From: cc647@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Cornick)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: New Mudhoney
Date: 12 Oct 1992 01:25:31 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cc647@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Cornick)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, mw5e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Hamilton Walker) says:

>Is the new Mudhoney out yet?
>
>I heard it was supposed to be out on the 6th, but the person at the
>record store said the date had been pushed back
>
My radio station got it this week, which means 2 to 1 that it will be in
the stores on Tuesday.

BTW, it RAWX. No sell-out. No compromise.
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From: dupham@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (David Upham)
Subject: Help Me Name this Tune...
Keywords: WRXT, House of Love
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:34:16 GMT

Having never posted before to a.m.a., apologies if this violates protocol.
Anyway, I have had a tune running through my head for a good month now; while
normally this could be a good reason to seek professional help, I happen to know
that there is a real song attached to this tune.  I know that about this time
last year, WXRT played a song regularly that told a story about a man hiking
through the hills -- the only lyric fragments that I can remember are...

	"This pack on my back is breaking..... walking through the hills 
	 for 15 days...."

That's it.  I really like the tune, but by the time that I actually bothered
to buy the thing, I couldn't remember who did it anymore.  The singing style
vaguely reminds me of House of Love, and those are the only clues that I have to
go on.  Many thanks to whoever can help me get this song out on my head and
down onto CD.... 

Dave Upham
N.U., Evanston, IL

dupham@casbah.acns.nwu.edu

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From: grey@bnr.ca (Grey)
Subject: Re: I need help finding Canadian Bands: all help appreciated!!
Reply-To: grey@bnr.ca (Grey)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:28:17 GMT

mecca@acsu.buffalo.edu (Starkitty) writes:
|> 
|> I already posted this under my "Tragically Hip" article last week.
|> I am looking for suggestions to play on my Canadian Feature show
|> 8-9pm on Sunday nites on WFFT (104.9FM SUNY @ Buffalo). I already
|> got lots of help but I also want names, addresses of unsigned artists
|> too. All help appreciated!!
|> 
|> --Renee C. Mecca
|> mecca@acsu.buffalo.edu

Check out 'Sing Along With Tonto' from Toronto.
They have an independent 6-song cassette. I can check out
their mailing address at home.
Fav song - 6+6+7

I'm also a fan of 'Thomas Trio and the Red Albino'.
They have a full length ind. cassette, and promise a CD
release sometime soon (mentioned at bar I saw them at a
month ago)
Fav song - Cry


Grey
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