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From: oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: What does SerSetBuf actually do?
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:43:36 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware

d88-jwa@hemul.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte) writes:
: .nih.gov> mvivino@helix.nih.gov (Mark A. Vivino) writes:
: 
:    I understand how to use SerSetBuf, but I am a bit confused as to how data
:    actually transfers to the buffer after you make the call. For
:    example, when I make the call:
: 
:      SerialErr := SerSetBuf(SPInputRefNum, Ptr(InputbufP), BigBufferSize);
: 
:    I would assume that data starts tranfering out of the default 64 character 
:    hardware buffer and into the base adress of my Inputbuffer by using
:    some sort of interrupt mechanism. I obviously do not make any calls
:    to copy the data into my software created buffer, but the data gets
:    to the buffer without any trouble. The actual tranfer mechanism
:    is not discussed in IM, or I haven't seen it. If it is interrupts, then
:    when do they occur?
: 
: Why should you look at the serial ports internal buffer.
: For all you know, the data there is XOR-ed with a large prime number...
: You get at the data using FSRead and FSWrite.
: 
: Anyway, yes, the serial port chip generates an interrupt when it
: receives characters. Exactly when and how is hard to tell, since
: the circuitry changes between models. The IIfx and Q900 even have
: a separate CPU handling the serial ports !
: 
  I've had the oppurtunity to write a driver for the Z8530, this is the
  Serial Communications Controller used in the Mac (SCC). The serial
  IO drivers in the Mac provide Asynchronous communications, that means
  that the interrupts are generated once there is a character in the
  SCC input register (reciever). BTW, the "hardware" buffer is NOT 64
  characters wide, it's 3 or 4 chars max. The 64 chars buffer is the
  standard buffer allocated by the system at the bootstrap. SerSetBuf
  just changes the pointers, that's why you don't have to worry about
  it. But pay attention about what you are doing, a big buffer can
  resist better against the overflows, but on the other side, you
  may recieve too many chars before you "notice" that you don't need
  them.

  I don't know about the IIfx and Q900, but normally when a separate
  CPU handles the serial communications, it doesn't change the
  interrupt moment (ie, there will always be an interrupt when the
  SCC has "matched" a character on the input serial line). It's
  not the CPU which is interrupted anymore but rather the auxiliary
  CPU. The aux CPU informes the main CPU using shared variables. 

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From: layw1@phx.cam.ac.uk (Lorenzo Wood)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: SE/30 video cards
Date: 12 Apr 92 18:23:30 GMT
Reply-To: layw1@phx.cam.ac.uk (Lorenzo Wood)
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Follow-up-to: <1992Mar25.002735.23700@cl.cam.ac.uk>

> This seems to have been asked a few times, but in the absence of any
answers..
> Does anyone know of a video card for the SE/30 that will drive (say)
the Apple
> 16" monitor to either 8/24 bits?

Thanks for several replies. I haven't chased any up yet, but everyone has
either suggested Lapis Technologies Inc., Almeda, CA or Micron Technology,
with Lapis being more common. I'll post another summary if I have some
more definite results with either of these.
From: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: RE: Sony 1304 Monitor Not All That Great
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 01:00:16 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.18 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH


smisra@eos.ncsu.edu (SAURABH MISRA) writes:

SM> The Sony 1304 Monitor that was recently picked by MacWorld 
SM> as the best color monitor buy, even better than Apple's 13 
SM> RGB, is really not all that great. Infact, Apple 13 RGB if 
SM> FAR better, and even the Seiko, which MacWorld seemed to dislike, 
SM> is better. I found this out first hand, and thought I would 
SM> save people some shipping costs...not all that MacWorld says 
SM> is true. Maybe they thought Sony was the best because they 
SM> advertise in their magazine a lot or something like that. 

I just picked up a local superstore ad, and they have a page on monitors and
compatibility, along with some specs.  With all the hoo-ha about the Sony 1304
 I took a look at it.  This flyer said it had a dot pitch of .28mm, same as
your garden variety DOS box SVGA setup.  But I remember that the Apple 13" RGB
has a .25mm dot pitch.

If indeed these factoids are true, then the Apple 13" RGB would seem to be
just a little bit superior.

--Adam--
 
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From: lkress@reed.edu (Lucien Kress)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Advice wanted: keyboards
Summary: How do clone keyboards compare?
Date: 15 Apr 92 04:06:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Apr15.040611.7346
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

I'm thinking about buying a IIsi, and have had dealers recommend
various keyboards in substitute for Apple's extended keyboard.

Has anyone used and liked (or disliked) the MacPro Plus or the
DataDesk (not the Switchboard)?  I'm especially concerned about
tactile feedback; I need clicky, snappy response.

Are there other comparably priced keyboards which are better
than these, and comparable to or better than Apple's?

Please email replies -- will post summary if requested.

(Is this a FAQ?  If so I apologize.)

Lucien <lkress@reed.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.unix.aux
From: mann@intacc.uucp (Jeff Mann)
Subject: Re: How to write 250MB with A/UX and an Archive Viper 150 drive?
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:32:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Inter/Access Artists' Centre Toronto

In article <ktaqudINNrvu@spim.mips.com> jrg@mips.com (John Galloway) writes:
>I have been using 6150 cartridge tapes in my Archive Viper 150 drive with
>no problems.  However, now I wish to use 6250 cartridges (as the manual
>says will work), however A/UX seems convinced that this is a 150MB drive
>and hence bombs out when that limit is hit.  The parameters show below

I encountered the same thing with the FWB tape drive for their Hammer 250
drive. The limit was in fact built into the driver. They were able to 
simply change the driver, recompile and send it to me. But now it can't
work with 150 meg tapes (or maybe it can; I haven't tried).

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: exby@pogo.Colorado.EDU (J.'Doc' Exby)
Subject: PwrBook RAM and modems
Summary: info
Keywords: RAM modems
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 04:11:46 GMT


RAM:
I'm still leaning towards the PB140 folks, looking to get a factory
2Mb config and a 3rd party RAM add-on.  Question:  in MacWarehouse
they have:  Mac Powerbook Upgrades  CHP0047 4Mb  $399
            Mac Powerbook Upgrades  CHP0048 6Mb  $499
(both 1 module)
later in catalog:
            Mac Powerbook Memory    CHP0063 4Mb  $699	
(1 module)

what could possibly make up the $200 price diff??
an explanation of DRAM or psRAM?  (btw, DRAM is the more expensive right?)


Internal Modem:

I'm looking for 9600 internal modem for the PB140.  It would be nice
if it had 9600fax too but not neccessary.  I havent seen anything in
various Mac mags about PB 9600bd modems, do they exist?  Info?
Most i've seen are 9600fax/2400data.   can't believe there's no 96/96.

Thanks for any info, I can summarize if anyone wishes.

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From: d88-jwa@hemul.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Expansion board
Date: 12 Apr 92 10:11:19 GMT
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Originator: d88-jwa@hemul.nada.kth.se

.edu> am3f+@andrew.cmu.edu (Alex S. Margita) writes:

   items mentioned was that it had an expansion card in it.  A Macintosh
   SE/30 internal Video, made by Apple computer in slot 14, board ID of 12.
    Part number of 341-0650.

   Can someone enlighten me as to what the card does???  

No problem.

It shows pictures.

If you look right above the Floppy Port, you'll see this 9"
black-and-white screen. If programmed properly, your macintosh
will draw pictures, text, and windows on that screen, using
the built-in black&white video card.

Sorry, couldn't resist :-)

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.wanted
From: brownp@viper.rtp.dg.com (Peter Brown)
Subject: Hyperdrive 2000
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 14:05:20 GMT
Reply-To: brownp@dg-rtp.dg.com (Peter Brown)
Organization: Data General Corporation, Research Triangle Park, NC

I picked up two circuit boards at an electronic flea market yesterday.
One was a working MAC 512 motherboard, and the other was something
called a Hyperdrive 2000.  I am looking for information on the hyperdrive
2000 board.  It appears to be an 12 mhz speed up board with coprocessor.
It also appears to have a connector for an MFM type hard drive.  It 
has a clip that snaps onto the 68000 processor, and a 4 pin D type
connector for power.  I hooked it up to the MAC motherboard, but all
I could get after that were the black and white vertical "dead mac"
bars.  Does anyone have any hookup info/ pointers for software, or
a name / address for the company that made it?  Thanks.

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From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: 13" v. 16"
Keywords: 13" 16" RGB Monitors
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:56:09 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

putzolu@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (David Putzolu) writes:

>Well, I have finally decided to upgrade to a Quadra, taking advantage
>of the student prices I can get while I am here. I am still unsure,
>however, if I should upgrade the montior I have as well. I currently
>have an Apple 13" RGB, and was wondering what the cumulative net
>intelligence thinks about the idea of selling the 13" used to buy
>and Apple 16". Is it worth it? Any opinions from people who have
>and do use both for nearly anything (programming, dtp, games) would
>be very welcome and helpful as well. Thanks!

    I used to have the 13" on my Quadra, but a couple of months ago I
got the Apple 16". Personally I love it. I think it is one of the best
monitors in its class on the market. I also really like the extra ADB
and sound in/out ports. Basically Apple designed the 16" with the Quadra
in mind. They were made for each other. And they work really well
together. Especially if you have the full 2MB of VRAM installed ;->.

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From: rrp@cfm.brown.edu (Bob Petrocelli)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Mac LC Video
Date: 10 Apr 1992 17:13:33 GMT
Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: dam.brown.edu
Originator: rrp@rufus

Hello out there..

I have a question concerning built in video on the Mac-LC...
With 512k of vram the LC can drive a 13" rgb at 640x480x8bits
and a 12"rgb at 512x384x16 bits: It is my understanding that
the onboard video hardware detects the type of monitor attached
by checking id-lines in the video cable...I would like to
achieve the following:

Drive a multifrequency monitor at EITHER 640x480x8 OR 512x384x16 without
resorting to switching cables. We see this type of thing in
the IBM world with SVGA cards which support multiple
reolutions under software control. Does anyone know of a CDEV which
changes resolution on-the-fly?...

Thanks

Bob
Petrocelli
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: bld2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Brent L Daniel)
Subject: Quadra v. IIci w/Daystar-Recommendation needed
Reply-To: bld2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Brent L Daniel)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 06:53:39 GMT

Hi.  I just need a recommendation or two or three.

I'm considering getting a IIci with a Daystar Digital 40MHz
accelerator, but when I compared it in price to the Quadra 700, I
found a $600 difference or so, including the money I'd save on
Ethernet.

Question: is the $600 worth it?  I've heard of problems accessing the
newfound Quadra speed and I don't remember what kind of impact that'll
have on me.  I seem to remember something about the caching, and
32-bit dirty software...

Also, where can upgrades for the IIci, IIcx to the Quadra 700 be
found, and for how much?

Thanks,

->Brent



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From: marc@porsche944.Eng.Sun.COM (Marc)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: VideoSpigot
Keywords: framegrabber, supermac, video
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:31:05 GMT
Reply-To: marc@porsche944.Eng.Sun.COM
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: porsche944

In article 1094@taniwha.UUCP, paul@taniwha.UUCP (Paul Campbell) writes:

>Strictly speaking no one can do 24-bit video from video, there's just not the
>bandwidth there

 Thats rather a generic claim. There have been in the past, analog solutions which
decode the signal down to it's RGB componet, then digitize the signal with three
8-bit ADCs. The Parallax VideoView for the VME bus utilized this process. Although
it requires a great amount of real-estate, it does deliver a 24bit digital video
stream to the framebuffer.

> the chipsets most people use produce 16-bit (actually less
>than 16-bits) of digital data stored in YUV format, when this is converted
>to RGB you end up with whatever your framestore supports (ie 8/16/24 bits)

 Ah yes, the Philips solution. Very nice indeed. One question though: why did 
SuperMac leave off a full (FRAM) framebuffer?

 When we designed VideoPix(sun) we found that the lack of a full frames
buffering, although saved a couple of dollars, didn't make up for the 
advantage of being able to capture a complete frame of quality video. 

 I have seen the Spigit, unfortunatly as far as still frame capture, 
the Mass Microsystems board does a much better job, and that using
the older SAA9051 7-bit part. That's just too bad. 

 With the volumes you guys do, there should be no reason that you can't get 
good pricing on the FRAM and still keep a under $500 price. Even VideoPix
is discounted down to $500 when sold with a Sparcstation in most cases.

BTW- Take a look at the Pixel Semiconductor CL-PX0070 Video Window generator,
it's rather a fun part and can do really fun things. When used correctly it
make VRAM un-nessary.

Regards,

-Marc Schneider
 Multi Media Products Engineering
 Sun Microsystems Computer Corp.



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Stu West <stu@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu>
Subject: PB 170 Modem Disconnects during file transfer
Organization: Yale University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 15:49:37 GMT


Organization: Sophomore, Social & Decision Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:59:27 -0400 
From: Peter Ng <pn0o+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Spigot and Output


I am interested in editing movies. I know that the Spigot can have
various input sources such as from a camcorder or VCR.  But can it
produce output to a VCR so that I can record it on a VHS tape?  If it
can't, is there a video board that can edit movies (does not necessarily
have to be in Quicktime Format, but preferred) and can output to
external sources?

Thanx...
Pete
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From: jm602s1066@sycom.mi.org (James Mallory)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: SE -> SE/30 Upgrade
Date: 12 Apr 92 15:34:19 GMT
Organization: Michigan Information eXchange

dougs@eng.umd.edu (Douglas W. Sauder) writes:
>If Apple discontinues the upgrade, you may be stuck with an SE.  I 
>would much rather be stuck with an SE/30.

Or how about a third party upgrade?

-- C-UseNet V0.55c
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  '...I wanted to have real conversations with people with bubbles on their
 heads...I want to sit next to Wookies...jawas...and all kinds of robots." --
   Carrie Fisher on "Star Wars"  (Even though I would of swore that she was
                           referring to the 'net!)
From: npl@lingo.psych.rochester.edu (Nicholas LaMendola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: SE/30 and PDS Adaptor Question.....
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:59:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: galileo.1992Apr13.165943.6751
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)



I have an SE/30 at home with a Micron Xceed Video Card installed in my PDS.
I recently saw a thread on the net about a PDS adaptor which would allow
the PDS slot on the logic board be able to support two cards. I know they
have these for the IIsi's PDS but can it also be done on the SE/30, given
the physical architecture of the insides of each Mac. Has anyone out there
added an adaptor and two boards to it? Or does anyone know if you can hook
up the adaptor plus a video card and a Daystar Digital 40 Mhz accelerator?
They sell you a PDS adaptor with the accelerator. Will that combination
work with any putative PDS adaptor for the SE/30.

Please e-mail any information on this PDS dilemma,

nicholas lamendola
npl@lingo.psych.rochester.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: yosinaga@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Naoko Yoshinaga)
Subject: Re: SE30 Noise (only on the desktop)--any info?
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 06:04:23 GMT


I too, have this phenomena happening on my SE30. It started when I installed
4 1Meg SIMMs that I ordered from MacConnection. The sound level and
frequency change, depending on what application is running and where my
arrow is and whether or not the mouse button is pressed.

Anyone else with comments, info?

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: denault@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Tony Denault)
Subject: Question on upgrading a Mac Plus
Organization: Institute for Astronomy, Hawaii
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 05:23:36 GMT


Hello,
 
A friend asked me about upgrading a mac plus. I not familiar
with macs so I asking for advice from the net. We would like to
extend the life the this computer a couple more years, and have
a college student's budget.
 
Current Mac Plus configuration:
 
   1 Meg memory
   External floppy disk.
 
I'm suggesting adding a ~50 meg hard disk and 3 more Megs of 
RAM. 
 
Since the mac plus has a scsi port, am I free to purchase 
any scsi disk advertised in a mac computer magazine? Any suggestions?
 
I don't know what kind RAM it take? SIMMs or a special board?
Can you suggest what to purchase to bring it up to 4 meg.
 
One final question, what is the best system to run on a mac plus?
6.?? Can system 7 work for pluses? 
 
Can you email me (denault@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu) , since I not 
a regular to this newsgroup.
 
Thank you.

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From: su0z+@andrew.cmu.edu (Sherman Uitzetter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: 24-bit color on a Quadra
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:32:23 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


    I know this was discussed at length a while back but I wasn't paying
attention.  I have a Quadra 700 and an Apple 16" monitor and I want 24-bit
color.  You need VRAM you say.  I have two VRAM kits from Apple (512K each
I think).  My question is how much VRAM do I need (I thought two kits would
be enough) and is there any special way to install the VRAM.
    I tried connecting the Quarda to a 13" monitor with the VRAM installed
and still only got 8-bit color.  Also, the 16" monitor works fine in 8-bit
with no VRAM installed.

As all this is probably old rehashed stuff please send e-mail

Thanks,
-Sherman.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: mmehall@mentorg.com (Mark Mehall)
Subject: Re: Driver for a Toshiba CD-ROM
Organization: mktg
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 20:03:06 GMT

In article <167BED802.M23198@mwvm.mitre.org> M23198@mitre.org writes:
>Does anyone have or know of the location of a driver for a Toshiba CD-ROM drive

Toshiba America Disk Products division sells a driver.  The part number is
CD DVR-MA1 the price is $54 plus shipping.  The phone number is (714) 455-0407.

(standard disclaimers apply)
Mark Mehall                            
Mentor Graphics Corp.            mark_mehall @mentorg.com
8005 S.W. Boeckman Road          Work: (503) 685-4745
Wilsonville, OR 97070
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From: daan@cwi.nl (Daan Otten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Inkt/Bubble/Laser printers for Mac and PC: which one to buy
Date: 6 Apr 92 12:43:43 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: CWI, Amsterdam

Hello,

I wonder whether someone has experiences with inktjet, bubblejet or 
laser printers that can be connected to a Macintosh and a PC. Of these two 
computers is the Macintosh the most important one. Quetsions are:
- what is the best buy for around $1000-$1250
- when I buy the correct cable can I send PC-output directly to for instance a
  Mac Personal Laserwriter? Or do I need special converters? 
- The same quetsion for when I would buy a more PC-oriented laser printer?

Please send replies by email to daan@cwi.nl. Thanks in advance.


Daan Otten
Centre for Mathematics and Computer Science
email: daan@cwi.nl
From: ebido@bio.vu.nl (Etienne Bido)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Grayscale on HP Deskwriter (not -C)?
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:44:33 GMT
Organization: VU Biology, Amsterdam, The Netherlands

Will grayscale, either with the DW-C- or the new DW-driver, also
be possible from a Plus/SE?
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