From: iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy)
Subject: Re: Dan flipped through an AmigaWorld, and:
Date: 13 Dec 92 23:13:53 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1992Dec13.063021.28547@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:

>1) Apps have private screens.  This shoots to hell an enforcement of
>commonality between apps.  What a wild blend of software that designs its
>own interface.  Woo woo.

You fool. This keeps us from running out of screen real estate.
I don't have to close windows to do other stuff. And UI compliance is up
to the programmer, no the OS. If you think otherwise you are an
idiot. If you comply to the Amiga User Interface Style Guide
then your apps look fine. All UI resources are available on
any screen so an app does not have to be on the WB to utilize
the feature of the GUI API. And I could write a Windows app that looks
like it came off a Apple II if I want. If you want non-compliance in
Windows programms just look at Codeview for Windows that shipped with
MS C 7.00. Yikes!

>2) It seems beyond me that Amigaworld, *AMIGA*World, wouldn't have shots of the
>Workbench.  Think about it.  What a farce that the Amiga GUI is so irrelevant,
>being some kind of program loader, that it isn't touted.  Sheesh.  You can't
>do that with Windows or OS/2.  The basic structure of windows are all the same.
>You can't help but see the basic of Windows/OS/2 by looking at screen shots of
>Windows or OS/2 screen shots.

The Wokbench is merely a Graphical Shell. The GUI extends to whereever
programmers want. On the Amiga all windows look the same too. Again, it
is up to the programmer to follow the rules. And why should a magazine
tout the Graphical Shell? It's the apps that are important. Oh, you're
an OS/2 user, and the Shell is all you have to talk about since all your
apps are really Windows apps. Oh well. It must be frustrating using
OS/2 as a device to merely launch Windows and DOS. Might as well
just run Windows on a 286 for the same performance...

>Hopefully, HOPEFULLY, hires and HI color workbenchs are worth using.  And some
>Amigans tout the BLAZING SPEED of the WB?!  Good grief! I sure would hope so,
>to lauch a program to be able to stop looking at it.

You idiot. The ablity to run the Workbench in a 4 color mode is a strength.
It allows us to conserve memory and video bandwidth. After all, you don't need
256 colors to just look at a file listing do you? And if you do need 256
colors then you just open another screen for as long as you need, then close
it thus conserving system resources. The Wb is primarily a tool to manage
your Amiga environment. Some people run applications on it. Other do not.
Some people think it is silly to lock the user into one place to run your apps.
Like Windows and OS/2 do. The Workbench is akin to the Program Manager
under Windows yet you do not need the Program Manager to use Windows. Just
like you don't need Workbench to run the Amiga.

The Amiga has a highly flexable and dynamic OS and GUI.

I get the distinct feeling you know nothing about the Amiga. Use OS/2
Windows and the Amiga for a few years (as I have) then maybe you will
understand their differences, stregths and weaknesses.

Ian.
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