From: Mike_Whalen@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Mike Whalen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ah.. the welcome voice of HAM
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:22:18 GMT
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.


  I recieved this message in my mailbox earlier today. I am clearly not a
person who understands, fully, the way that the 9600+ market works. 

  To the best of my knowledge, although my "friend" here has me pinned as
someone who listens to "weenies", if you have a modem that is v.32
specifically, you can't call v.32bis.. and vice versa. Hey.. this all comes
from operators mouths and heresay so it could be wrong. At least I CAN
admit that to everyone.

  Now, my beef with this message which you are about to read, is this
person is a HAM and he really insulted me. Told me to shut up.

  What I want to know is.. are a lot of hams like this? I mean no
disrespect at ALL! But so far I have been told that I shouldn't have said
anything and that I am ignorant and should shut up.

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[From    ] Doug Faunt N6tqs XXX-XXX-XXX 
[To      ] Mike Whalen
[Date    ] Thu 16 Apr 92 11:59
[Subject ] (now) standard modems
 
 
Excuse me, but you keep talking about standards, about which you are
remarkably ignorant.
 
There is a modem standard for greater than 9600 bps transmission.
It's called V.32bis.  There are also protocols for greater than 9600
transmission, that are not standard, but manufacturers would like you
to believe are.  One of these is the USR HST.  It's NOT a standard,
and if you think it is, you're gullible and ignorant.
 
BTW, V.42 has NOTHING to do with transmission speed, despite what the
marketing weenies seem to have you believing.
 
There is a proposed standard, called V.FAST, that is still a
proprietary protocol, but may become a standard, that calls for 24k to
28k transmission speeds.
 
You've been listening to too many marketing types, which is fine if
you're going to keep your ignorance to yourself, but when you state
their assertions as facts, you're opening yourself up for the kind of
derision that you so rightly deserve.
 
You're much better off keeping you mouth shut, and be thought
ignorant, then to open it and prove you are.

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  WHOA! What a warm welcome from the HAM community. Take this to heart,
guy! It's much easier to sit there in the comfort of your own home or
office and type a hate-message to a guy than tell him to his face. 

  I don't get this. I am sorry I am misinformed on this subject. I take
back everything that I said about the bloody topic. This message was
clearly uncalled for and I wish I wouldn't have recieved it. 

  Look, guys.. I know that all of you aren't like this. I have been talking
with some really nice people in Mail about different subjects... on the
other hand.. you had one person last week who was complaining that new
people didn't know "dung" about HAM and that they were idiots and shouldn't
be in the hobby.

  Now, you have this guy who is acting as "fact police" running around mail
telling people they are IGNORANT and telling them to SHUT UP!?!?

  Pardon me, guys.. but what the ^$%^ is this?! Everyone here is so
concerned about people being welcomed into HAM.. but then stuff like this
occurs.. 

  There's really nothing more to say on this. I haven't really talked to
enough peopl to say that I am getting more negative than good.. I am trying
not to believe that this is a reflection of a lot of people.

  If enough of you have the attitude of that guy up there.. you can be
assured that not many are going to want to join the hobby.

Mike..

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