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From: rcosby@bcm.tmc.edu (Randy C. Cosby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: TOKEN RING vs. 10BaseT -- HELP!
Date: 27 Jan 1993 22:28:09 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: bcm.tmc.edu
Summary: What about cost?

In article <1993Jan27.163741.2588@ucbeh.san.uc.edu>, domet@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
> 
> I planned on using Ethernet but she told me that with a llarge database and a
> SMALL number of workstations that Token Ring may be a better possibility...
> She said it runs a lot more constant pace than 10BaseT. She also mentioned that
> with 10BaseT, when more and more workstations are added, it really gets bogged
> down YET Token ring will still run at a relatively constant pace..(A slow pace
> bbut a constant pace!)
> 
Well Luke,

It is true that in theory (understand?) Token Ring is a constant 4 or 
16 mbps throughput network, however, that factual theory (get it?)
only applies if you have a small(define please) number of workstations.

Once the workstation count grows significantly, you will see degrading
token passing.  I know I will get flamed for this!  

First of all, 10BaseT is Ethernet... That's what we campus Network
Managers call it anyway.  Ethernet can be degraded by large numbers of
workstations.  However, Ethernet specifications state larger numbers
than Token Ring...

Let's face it Luke, Networks grow... .Ethernet cards and hubs are
cheaper than Token Ring... More products to support Ethernet are
available... and it can be bridged simply and safely with ease.
Just remember, it may be a small Network now... but it will 
grow......and grow... and grow......

Other factors relate to Network slowness besides topology.
Protocol, Ethernet board types and sizes (be safe by 3Com,
their founder invented Ethernet and their boards are guaranteed
for life! ) can significantly effect performance.  Get a 32 bit
board for the server and Etherlink III's for workstations.....

But, if you want to buy Token Ring, like perhaps you need to 
connect to an IBM system (they only lost Billions this year,
and they invented Token Ring). Jesus, I better stop....


	LET THE ANTI-ETHERNET/PRO-TOKEN RING FLAMES BEGIN!!!!



Randy Cosby
Network Manager
Texas Children's Hospital

P.S. I have a combination FDDI and Ethernet backbone supporting
over 1800 workstations..... works for me!!!
From: cranch@novell.com (Christopher Ranch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: What happend to ftp.novell.com??
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:58:29 GMT
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia

In article <1993Jan21.140948.254@indyvax.iupui.edu> harvey@indyvax.iupui.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.192023.27292@cs.yale.edu>, mikef@som.yale.edu (Michael Fanara) writes:
>> In article <Jan20.180249.29860@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> pruett@CS.ColoState.EDU (J. L. Pruett) writes:
>>>Anyone know what happened to ftp.novell.com??
>>
>> Try ns.Novell.com (137.65.4.1). There was an anouncement about this the
>> other day.
>cd to the ~/netwire/novlib directory and all the usual stuff is there.

	You can also still get to the machine that ftp.novell.com used
	to point to.  It's real name is ftp.is.sandy.novell.com, and
	ftp.novell.com was just an alias to it.

	Chris
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From: uhubb@mcl.ucsb.edu (Richard Hubbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: novastor DAT software
Date: 23 Jan 93 06:24:10 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.novell

Anyone had any experience with Novastor backup software? I have and it has been
mostly bad.  It just doesn't seem to be very robust. Can someone tell me what
the trick is with this software? i.e. What is a btree error? (yes btree)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: mcollins@db (Marty Collins)
Subject: Re: FF prblem printing from UNIX to NOVELL??
Organization: Novell, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:36:59 GMT

howardl@wb3ffv.ampr.org (Howard Leadmon - WB3FFV) writes:
: 
:     Hello,
: 
: I am working with a customer that is currently running Netware 3.11 with 
: the NFS 1.2 package, which is connected with an SCO UNIX (3.2.4.1) machine 
: running TCP/IP 1.2.0.  The problem I can't seem to figure out is that when
: print job is queued on the UNIX machine that will be printed from the 
: NW3.11 print queue, it always seems to get an additional form feed when
: the job is printed, needless to say this wastes a LOT of additional paper.
: 
: On the unix side, rlp seems to just hand the job off the the NW3.11 system,
: so I don't see how I can change things on the UNIX side.  What I need to know
:  is if there is some option or flag on the UNIX or NOVELL side I can use that
: will supress the additional formfeed.  Any help with this would be most
: appreicated...

THe suppression of formfeeds and banners are strictly controlled from the
Unix/LPD client. Therefore you must issues a lpr -J/nff if you want
to suppress FormFeeds from an LPD client, check with SCO documentation
to be sure of the correct syntax.

Also make sure that when you configured PLPDCFG, the print queue you are
using doesn't have a MODE defined that would introduce a FormFeed
at that point. Best way to go about this is to leave the MODE line blank
under PRINT QUEUES FOR USE.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: pjh@mccc.edu (P. J. Holsberg)
Subject: SLIP
Organization: The College on the Other Side of U. S. 1
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 19:15:37 GMT

Does the UnixWare Apps Server software include a SLIP program?
From: hgpeach@ms.uky.edu (Harold G. Peach, Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Wanted - CRON/Scheduling NLM
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:25:52 GMT
Organization: University of Kentucky

We are looking for a reliable CRON/scheduling package for our NetWare 3.11
server.  While it would be nice to find somthing that can be FTPed, we are
certainly willing to pay for a commercial package if anyone knows of one.
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  (Opinions above are expressed as a student of the University of Kentucky)
From: GREENA@UK.AC.BHAM.IBM3090
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Screen Saver
Date: 22 Jan 93 10:23:45 GMT
Organization: The University of Birmingham, United Kingdom
NNTP-Posting-Host: ibm3090.bham.ac.uk

>In article <s1110238.727532517@giaeb> s1110238@giaeb.cc.monash.edu.au (Lee Hollingworth) writes:
>>Does anyone know of a NetWare compatible TSR screensaver.  That is
>>one that does not stop the background process.  The problems associated
>>with a screen saver that does stop background processes is obvious if
>>installed on the server!

I'd love to find a Netware-compatible screen saver; not for the
file server, but for our DOS workstations.  A problem occurs
when our tape streamer software (Cheyenne ArcServe) tries to back
up a machine which is switched on, but unattended.  Normally this
would work, but if our screen saver (Explosiv) has cut in, the
back-up process stalls until ArcServe gives up waiting for the
workstation to be free.  If you are lucky, you realise what has
happened, and press a key on the workstation.  If not, no backup...

Intrigued by it all,

Allan Green
(still trying to decide where the flame goes when you blow a candle out)
Queen Elizabeth Hospital,
Birmingham UK
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From: rcosby@bcm.tmc.edu (Randy C. Cosby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: Re: Stupid G%#@(*@ Electricians!
Summary: Re: Stupid Electricians... kill em
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:12:42 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: bcm.tmc.edu

In article <1993Jan27.184040.15296@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>, ejhupper@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Eric Huppertz) writes:
> 
> Yesterday, some electricians installed an alarm system in our
> building, and today we get wildly unpredictable results from the
> network.  Lightning quick for a while, then slow as
> molasses for a while, then okay again, then "error receiving
> from network", ad nauseum. No pattern, and it's difficult to
> catch because so many people are logged in all the time.
> 
> I strongly suspect that these bozos yanked hold of something
> they shouldn't have while they were messing around in our
> ceiling.  
> 
> This is not the first time this has happened, and it always
> causes a heap of trouble.  Can someone recommend some device,
> e.g. one of those hand held jobs that with a BNC connector, 
> that will tell me what's going on when these problems occur?
> We have a 100 user Netware 3.11 network on thin ethernet.
> Or maybe there's a software package that will do the trick,
> though I don't see how one could run such a program when 
> the net is locked up.
> 
> Many thanks in advance!
> 
> -E. 
> -- 
> -  ()()    ()()  ()  ()()()    Eric J. Huppertz             ejhupper@ilstu.edu
Eric,

80% of all network problems can be directly related to the media(wire).

Go out and spend the bucks for a NEXT Scanner from Microtest.
Anixter sells them, Kent Electronics sells them.... hell, everybody
sells them.  That is the handheld device....... It will even
print out certifications.....

My guess is your problem is related to loose connectors or kinked
cable.... I HATE COAX... budget for 10BaseT as soon as possible and
switch to it...... 

If you cannot find the problem with a NEXT scanner, you may have to start
isolating pieces of cable until the problem goes away..... It will
give you a starting point... I know this seems obvious.... but sometimes
when all HELL breaks loose the obvious is soon forgotten.....

Good Luck......


I've been there man, and sympathize.... 


Randy Cosby
Network Manager
Texas Children's Hospital
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,comp.unix.aix
From: hesse@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (BJ Cameron - DCS)
Subject: NetWare print problems
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:24:46 GMT


We are running NetWare v3.11 on an RS6000 with a bunch of PCs and
two printers defined.  These printers are actually hanging off
the AIX side of things and are gotten to by the pc users via the
PSERVER and RPRINTER processes.

The problem we see is that a user tries to print a job but the
queue is stalled.  A quick check shows that the PSERVER process has
gone away, and in some cases the RPRINTER process has also gone bye-bye.
Restarting these processes does not seem to be good enough; the queue
is still stalled, and the first job shows some very large record count
and a garbled name.

We have tried killing off all of NetWare on the 6000 but this does not
work.  What does work, but is unacceptable is that we must purge all
print files and then restart all of Netware.

Q: Has anyone else seen this problem?

Q: Who is killing off the PSERVER process?  Actually, one of the log
   files shows that WATCHDOG has killed PSERVER on occasion.  Can
   WATCHDOG be trained not to do this?

These are low-usage printers (a couple of jobs a day) but this problem
happens several times a week.  Our last attempt to correct this problem
was to simply find the queues on the AIX side and kill off the print files.
We won't do that anymore!  After doing an "rm" on the files the queues
were unusable; we have actually had to define two new queues in order to
print.  Misplacing our Netware for AIX printer manual hasn't helped much
either.  On the topic of books, are there any *good* books (red or otherwise)
that give a good in-depth understanding of the internals of Netware?

Thanks in advance...

Bri
From: mcollins@db (Marty Collins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: *.QDR*.SRV files, what are they?
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:25:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: novell.1993Jan26.182542.532
Organization: Novell, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

gregw@hspice.portal.com writes:
: Under my SYS:SYSTEM directory, I see a number of subdirectories
: of the form ????????.QDR.  These in turn have files of the form
: ??????.SRV.  Any ideas what these are?  Whenever I restart the
: server it complains about these files.

These are for print queues. Remember this as it is a question on
the CNE 386 Advanced System Manager!!!!!!

: 
: -- Greg
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: silver@xrtll.uucp (Hi Ho Silver)
Subject: Re: Burst Mode IPX
Organization: What you won't find on my desk.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:55:27 GMT
Keywords: BURST

Sayeth drews@engr.wisc.edu (James Drews):
$Quick question for all you out there.  We are considering useing BURST
$mode IPX on our network and I had a few questions:

   Actually, burst mode does nothing to IPX; it works one level higher,
at the NCP level.  It happens that NCP uses IPX as its transport
mechanism, but IPX itself is unaffected.

$  1) what kind of performance increase can I expect?

   It depends on your network.  On our Ethernet, I find 30-50%, depending
on the network card and the speed of the machine in question.  I have not
had a chance to try it on other topologies, and I've heard that if you're
running Arcnet with TRXNET, you won't see a difference.

$  2) what problems have people had using the PBURST.NLM/BNETX?

   BNETX 3.26 is not compatible with Windows, despite the fact that
it ships as part of the DOS/Windows Workstation Kit.  BNETX 3.31
is quite stable, in my experience.

   PBURST 1.00 seems to work fine for me.  PBURST 2.00 requires that
you add an additional SET parameter to your AUTOEXEC.NCF if you're not
using packet signing.  It is reported to clash with some NetWare patches;
don't ask me which ones.

$  3) If I were to decide to use the burst mode, where/what do I need
$     to do to get the NLM?

   It's on Compu$erve, in NOVFILES, under DOSUP6.ZIP.  I don't know if
it's legal to simply grab a copy from there, or if you're required to
buy the Workstation Kit and then grab an upgrade.
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From: wjh0265@tamsun.tamu.edu (William Hobson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: CHARON gateway crashing - HELP!!
Date: 22 Jan 1993 08:40:05 -0600
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamsun.tamu.edu

I forgot to mention - I am using version 4.0 of Charon.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: Steve.Bauer@launchpad.unc.edu (Steve Bauer)
Subject: Is it possible to turn off ipx routing on the server?
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 05:12:48 GMT


I was wondering if it is possible to turn the ipx routing that a file
server that has multiple nics will do?

Thanks in advance!!

Steve BAuer

sbauer@silver.sdsmt.edu

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From: rdb1@herahera.cc.bellcore.com (bond,robert d)
Subject: LAN WorkGroup- Rapid Filer
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: us
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 13:44:50 GMT
Keywords: ftp

Is the "Rapid Filer" ftp application provided with Novell's
LAN WorkGroup package identical to the "File Express" ftp
application found in LAN WorkPlace for DOS?

Thanks in Advance!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,wheaton.talk
From: bob@david.wheaton.edu (Bob)
Subject: Re: Getting, changing and restoring "capture" information
Organization: Wheaton College, IL
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:38:07 GMT

In article <GMRIBEIR.93Jan21145122@david.wheaton.edu> gmribeir@david.wheaton.edu (Glauber) writes:
>
>	That i want to do: to able to, from within a program
>that i write, print to any specific queue or to the local
>printer, independently of how the "capture." is set. For
>instance, i need to be sure that a certain program prints to
>a specific printer because of printer setup, codes, etc. I
>can envelop the program in a batch file that sets capture to
>the queue i want, but then i have to reset it to what it was
>before. As we add users, it gets harder and harder to
>antecipate what printer is the preferred one for each user.
>
>	Can i ask Netware if lpt1 is being captured, where
>to, settings, etc., save it, change the parameters to what i
>need, than reset them to what they were, from within a C
>program?

the best way i can think of is just to print directly to the print queue
regardless of the capture status.  i can give you a demo program to get you on
your way on this one.  it is documented in the programming reference, but they
don't tell you the format of the header info.

bob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: lb00197@Corlac (David Porco)
Subject: Re: printing out rights and trustee assignments
Organization: Lockheed
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 15:50:01 GMT

In article <C1JnIx.8Kt@news.udel.edu> jtmorgan@chopin.udel.edu (James Morgan) writes:


>Again I am asking about printing out a list of rights and other information
>that is stored in the bindery.
>Some back ground:
>When you go into syscon you can look at lists of users and groups.  Also you can
>display the member list of groups and the trustee rights of users.   This seems
>to be a process that is using the three files of the bindery:
>Net$obj.sys, Net$prop.sys, and Net$val.sys.   Is there a way of dumping the 
>information into a file by using some command at the prompt level with
>dos redirection? 

>The purpose of all of this may seem to be trivial but it is a real need and
>if it can't be done this way then it will just have to be done manually by
>seeing the info on a screen and then recapturing the keystrokes all over again.

>Can anyone give me some assistance on this?

There is a program called BINDERY.EXE.  I think you can get it on NETWIRE.
It will display the bindery objects.  If you run this program and re-direct
the output to a file IE: BINDERY > bind.fil  you should get what you need.
I think it is a shareware program, so make sure it gives you what you need.
I recall some verbage in the .DOC that says it prints all the bindery 
objects it knows about, so the program may not give a complete listing
if you have a bindery object it doesn't know about...  In any event
it looks like a pretty good program.

Hope this helps.
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From: hosmjl@usho92.hou281.chevron.com (M.J.Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: <Netware 3.11 and Windows 3.1
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:44:18 GMT
Organization: Chevron

I've been able to login and out of NetWare from within Windows 3.1 by creating
and executing PIF files for login and logout.  One must have at least netx loaded
prior to entering Windows to allow the NetWare functions to operate.  One should
not login or out from the Windows DOS prompt; this causes all sorts of problems 
that are avoid by utilizing the PIF files.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: millerje@CS.ColoState.EDU (Jeff Miller)
Subject: Server backup drive recommendations?
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:10:31 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

Can someone give a recommendation for a Netware 3.11 compatible tape backup
drive (for the server)?  I would like it to be compatible with nbackup, or
come with it's own backup software (esp. if the backup software will run
unattended in windows!). Furthermore, I would be looking for a large storage
device, most likely 4mm tape.

If you use something at your site that fits my description, please drop me a
line.  Please mention what software is packaged, if there's windows support
(unattended), and the interface it uses (SCSI, etc.).

Thanks much!


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: itan@IASTATE.EDU (Idarto Tan)
Subject: Re: Pmail question
Reply-To: itan@IASTATE.EDU (Idarto Tan)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:38:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.022556.28872@nmsu.edu>, smccann@dante.nmsu.edu (Stan
McCann) writes:
>      I have more than one login name on our local network and would like some
> way of getting mail delivered to only one of my login names.  I do not use
> my supervisor login name every day and when I do login under that name,  I
> usually have several messages that I did not see.  Can anyone tell me a way
> to have mail redirected to the name that I use everyday?
> 

	You should be able to use either 'Autoforward' or 'Internet
Autoforward' or even both of them. I believe this feature can be set
thru Preferences and Extended features menu.

Note : This depends on your setup configurations during pconfig.

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