HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: plant root hormones?
Date: 15 Sep 92 23:24:24 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Sep15.174653.6790@iscsvax.uni.edu> klier@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>drewsxpa@salem.intel.com (Paul Drews) writes:
>> 
>> By  the  way, the rooting hormones are dreadfully poisonous.  Read the
>> caution  labels on the containers.  Don't even store them near food or
>> fertilizer and don't use them on stuff you're going to eat.
>
>Uh, could we negotiate this down to "Don't eat it with a spoon"?  NAA
>has an oral LD50 in rats of 1000 mg/kg.  Acetominophen (Tylenol, tm,
>rates 338 mg/kg (about 3x as toxic))  It's never a good idea to store

  Might be thinking about some of the other auxin emulators like
  the infamous 2,4-D (2,4-dichlorophenoxyacetic acid)  and 3,4,5-T.
  Reputed with hot denials from some quarters to be carcinogenic.

>My absolutely top favorite Material Safety Data Sheet was for Sucrose.
>Yep, table sugar.  It wound up with the admonition that if you spilled
>this horrible chemical on yourself you should wash the area in running

   Back when our lab was doing chloroplast isolations, the floors
   were always nasty sticky with spilled sucrose solutions.
   Then, the LD50 referred to the number of falls due to the
   floor sticking on our feet.

   Wayne
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
From: amz@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (Arnold M Zwicky)
Subject: Re: freezing pesto
Followup-To: rec.gardens
Summary: easy to do
Organization: osu, outil, stanford, lsa,...
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:20:56 GMT

yes, we've been freezing pesto (without the cheese) for years.
an ice-cube-sized lump provides a one-person serving.  we usually
use plastic containers of various sizes, for three- or four-person
amounts.

if you have lots and lots of basil - we usually do - these
containers make nice presents for pesto-loving friends without
gardens of their own.

let the pesto thaw to room temperature, and add the cheese,
and you're ready to go.

even when we had quarts of the stuff, it never lasted through
until the next year's crop of basil came along, so i can't say
whether it's reasonable to try to keep it longer than a year.

you should put a thin layer of olive oil on the pesto, or
otherwise make sure it's not exposed to the air in your freezer,
so as to avoid freezer burn.

arnold (enjoying fresh pesto two or three times a week right now)
From: kk@mcnc.org (Krzysztof A. Kozminski)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Wildflowers to Naturalism
Date: 12 Sep 92 05:16:34 GMT
Distribution: rec.gardens
Organization: MCNC Center for Microelectronics, RTP, NC

In article <1992Sep11.231518.6133@rigel.econ.uga.edu> hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes) writes:
>In article <BuFEH7.3xC@well.sf.ca.us> lp@well.sf.ca.us (Lily Pond) writes:
>>
>>I would like to move that Vince Summers be banned from rec.gardens. Is there
>>a way to implement this?
>>
>   Nope, no way to ban him.

Yup. First, this would be censorship, violation of the 1st, etc, and,
second, the software does not support it.  On the other hand, it
ceratinly appears that the following: "How can I avoid reading Vince
Summers' postings" is a FAQ (while never before submitted explicitly,
it was surely subconsciously asked by many), and should be answered by
explaining how to add VS to one's personal kill file.

>   Obgardens:  The tithonia is *still* blooming.  Really fantastic plant.

Hey, so is mine.  Going on it's third month, and not fazed at all by
being broken by strong winds two weeks ago.  Must be having a bloom
persistence contest with the Verbena bonariensis growing nearby.  This
one started blooming in May I think, and not only it attracts
butterflies just as tithonia, it also smells nicely!

Obgardens of my own: anybody got any ideas why most of the flowers on
my formosa lily (Lilium formosanum) shriveled and withered away without
ever unfolding?  This happened only on one stem out of three - the others
bloomed just fine.  BTW, this is one gorgeous lily - 7 feet tall, with a
cluster of >6 inch long flowers ...

KK
-- 
"Legalize freedom.  Vote libertarian"
From: Bob.Batson@mtask.omahug.org (Bob Batson)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Bacillus thuriengsis Resistance
Date: 13 Sep 92 15:09:14 CST
Reply-To: bob.batson@mtask.omahug.org
Organization: Multitasking Systems, Kansas City
Followup-To: rec.gardens

               Now That Insect Resistance to BT is Known...

  ... a U.S. Department of Agriculture scientist is recommending that Bt
(Bacillus thuringiensis) toxins be rotated, used in combinations, and/or
applied with varying dosages to slow the development of resistance. To
date, (some) target insects have developed resistance when Bt was applied
to plants and when Bt was added to the pests' diets, but no resistance has
been observed with genetically engineered plants which produce Bt.
  Reference: Anonymous, "Combining Pest control Tactics," QUARTERLY REPORT
OF SELECTED RESEARCH PROJECTS, April 1-June 30, 1992, 6. (Information
Staff, Agricultural Research Service, U.S. Department of Agriculture,
Beltsville, MD 20705.)
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From: kell@lark.jsc.nasa.gov (TED KELL)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Sensitive plants (??)
Date: 8 Sep 1992 16:03:58 GMT
Reply-To: kell@lark.jsc.nasa.gov
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA Johnson Space Flight Center - Clear Lake City, TX, USA
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4

In article <SHAFER.92Sep4123217@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov>, shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer) writes...
>On 3 Sep 92 19:03:40 -0500, klier@iscsvax.uni.edu said:
> 
>Kay> Are we talking about the same critter here?  My reference books say
>Kay> 3 ft tops for M. pudica (which folds leaflets when touched)-- I've
>Kay> never seen more than 2.5 ft.  There are other species of Mimosa that
>Kay> are trees, but they aren't touch sensitive.
> 
>The common tree mimosa (I can't remember its name) does fold its
>leaves up at night.  It's nice to be up early in the desert morning
>and watch the trees unfold themselves.

Yeah, but they are _not_ touch sensitive.  We have both kinds here in Houston.
The tree is not very desirable, It has the distinction of doing something nasty
12 months a year.  Its _only_ redeeming virtue is the fragrance of its flowers.
There are some that think the fragrance is another nasty - very strong.

> 
>--
>Mary Shafer  DoD #0362 KotFR NASA Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards, CA
>shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov                    Of course I don't speak for NASA
> "There's no kill like a guns kill." LCDR "Hoser" Satrapa, gunnery instructor
>                       "A kill is a kill."  Anonymous
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dud@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (William F. Dudley Jr.)
Subject: Last Posting of Rental List
Keywords: RENT MC
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:42:34 GMT

I`m leaving AT&T as of 5PM today, and hence losing net access.  Here's
the latest version of the rental motorcycle list.  Someone may want to
hang on to this, it'll be a collectors item :-)

I may be back in a month or so, if my job plans work out correctly.  Wish
me luck.

I can still be reached at my compuserve address.

Bill Dudley - Norton Commando, CB400F, CB550F, BSA Thunderbolt - AMA 194723
Moto Guzzi, Benelli, too.                         For Sale: 1650cc VW Trike
DoD #0376 - mail to: 71631.737@compuserve.com
From: jwills@ISI.EDU (Jerry Wills)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: DoD Merchandise
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:41:55 GMT
	<2430@devnull.mpd.tandem.com>
Organization: USC-ISI
In-reply-to: joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com's message of 14 Sep 92 14:28:58 GMT

In article <2430@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner) writes:
   ]: Arnie just posted about DoD zippo keyrings, but how about DoD zippo
   lighters?
   ]: Now that would be cool....
   ]   We had an issue of DoD Zippos last year - unfortunately I couldn't
   ]get the money to Arnie so I don't have one.  
   ]We need to get about 50+ orders to do a (re)run - if there's a bit more
   ]lead time I'll have one.

   if there is a rerun of the lighters, they must be of a different size and/or
   style to preserve the uniqness of the originals.
   Joe Senner                                          joe@zx11.cactus.org


	No problem Joe, the new ones will be gold plated :^)

	JD
From: jwills@ISI.EDU (Jerry Wills)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Blue Book Answer
Date: 12 Sep 92 00:27:14 GMT
Organization: USC-ISI
In-reply-to: csl%swl@swlrei.msd.ray.com's message of 11 Sep 92 17:46:41 GMT

In article <9209111746.AA19528@swlrei> csl%swl@swlrei.msd.ray.com ("Scott Lilliott") writes:
   dbidwa@sei.cmu.edu (Daniel Bidwa) writes:


   >So where is the mysterious Blue Book for motorcycles found? The friendly woman
   >at AAA didn't have one, and didn't know where I should look. (I'm looking for
   >the value of a 1977 Suzuki GS750, in case someone has the book sitting next to
   >his/her terminal.)

   >Thanx,
   >Dan

   I always called my insuranace agent - they seem to have "the book" with
   the values of MC's back about 7-8 yrs. In your case, the bike is off the
   books because of age.  Pick up a used bike classified rag for price compare.
   (In N.E. it's called the Want ADvertiser - I'll try to remember to look it
   up for you).

   S.

		I've waited but no one has thought to point that at that age
Its worth what you can get it for, or no worth worrying about.

	And Paul's isn't a Kelly Blue Book, but the orange NADA copy, does
your NADA say western edition, my Blue Book does.

			Jerry Wills 
I'll have enough POWER when I can spin the tires at the end of the straight!
89 FJ, 83 Le Mans III Kit   DoD#500  KotF (Flag)   Mark Donahue, about 917's
USC/Information Sciences Institute  (USC/ISI)  SoCal (310) 822-1511 x 236

You done violated Physics, BOY!    Assume the position..... (Rider 5/92)
From: cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: SHORT TRIPS AND ENGINE DEATH
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:11:54 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article 18ltpfINN3ll@meeth.hal.COM, ae@hal.COM (Andrew Essen) writes:

>so, i'm moving and my new commute is about 1 mile.  i want to avoid the
>"lots of short trips so your motor never warms up and dies a premature death"
>syndrome on my motorcycle. 

There are three aspects to short-trip -> death. The first is wear due
to running with no oil, esp in the head, before it circulates. The
second is poor oil supply until it warms up (too thick when cold).
The third is attack on metal bits by dissolved water and acids in the
oil, because the oil doesn't get hot enough to boil these off.

The answer to the first (no oil) is to use an oil which sticks better,
i.e., a modern esterised (is this the right term?) synthetic. The
answer to the second (too cold and thick) is to use a wide range oil,
like Mobil or Castrol 5W/50.

The third is an odd one. I've noticed that some engines are _much_
more prone to this than others. For example, after only a week of
short trips in my 450 Duc the oil was beginning to get milky,
indicating water presence, and a good long blast was needed to clear
it. But I can do any amount of short trips on my Guzzi V50 and it
_never_ shows signs of water. I can only presume that there is
something different about the oil circulation pattern and engine
cavity design which means that there is less condensation in the
Guzzi, or a better routing of the oil past somewhere that gets past
boiling point very quickly.  Clearly the Duc was essentially a long
distance machine, whereas the Guzzi is very well designed for short
tripping. [As a matter of fact the Guzzi is a lot better for long
trips too!]

In other words, for corrosion problems, keep looking at your oil. As
soon as it shows signs of milkiness, take the bike for a run until it
clears, or else change the oil.

Finally, use the engine gently until it has warmed up properly.  Judge
this either with an oil temp gage, or simply by noting the mileage at
which the engine performance ceases to improve. With my V50 that means
I restrict myself to mild no-overtaking performance for the first
mile, and then I keep it under half max rpm and half throttle until
I've done about 5 miles.

Short trips don't necessarily mean premature engine wear. Just
_careless_ short tripping. If you take the trouble to understand your
bike it'll live with you a lot longer.
-- 
Chris Malcolm    cam@uk.ac.ed.aifh          +44 (0)31 650 3085
Department of Artificial Intelligence,    Edinburgh University
5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK                DoD #205
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Least Favorite Road Sign
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:44:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <1992Sep10.034559.25537@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>How about California's "End 45 speed" (or whatever) signs? Sky's
>the limit now, right?

I thought those were Libertarian campaign posters?
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Summer Riding Suit Raffle
Summary: Just when you though it was safe to purge your kill file...
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:31:07 GMT

I lost the address for the raffle.  Anyone still have it.

Is it true that Harleys can't countersteer, because the flywheels weigh
about 50 pounds and the rotating mass acts like a gyroscope?  Is that
why a pack of Shriners riding in a parade have to worry about
gyroscopic processions?

Hey, Laszlo, 4 more weeks and our cat gets the pin out of his leg.
It only cost us the price of a used bike we were thinking about buying.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Re: Castrol Syntec (Oh God! Not oil again!)
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 13 Sep 92 15:45:16 PDT

In article <13531@pogo.wv.tek.com>, kevinm@pogo.wv.tek.com (Kevin Mills) writes:
>
>>>  I'm interested in finding out more about the new Castrol Synthetic, also.
>>> Sounds like a mix of Slick-50 and synthetic oil...
>>
>> Anyone who uses PTFE in their oil doesn't get my vote.  but if they
>> use PTFE on their ski bases, I'll buy that...
> 
> There is no mention of Castrol using a PTFE additive in their oil.
> What they use may be similar (I'm not a chemist).

I grabbed one of the little pamphlets from the Syntec display.  It says
"The exclusive Castrol Syntec ester is a precisely engineered liquid
lubricating molecule.  It is *not* a suspended solid like PTFE, graphite
or other non-stick coatings." [emphasis on "not" is Castrol's]

> "I'm convinved, you'll never stop looking for ways to kill yourself."
>                                                             -- My Mom

Yeah, I think I'm going to try hang gliding next.  My mother is just
thrilled.  :-)

--
|  Greg Orman                         greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
|                   DoD #0486 - '82 Vision 550                   |
|     A man's best friends:  a Harley, a Beretta and a Gund.     |
From: sai@formula1.Corp.Sun.COM (S.Fielding-Isaacs [WWFO Pubs Project Lead])
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: AMH foundation letter
Date: 14 Sep 1992 18:17:27 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: formula1.corp.sun.com

In article <1992Sep12.153714.498@halfdome.sf.ca.us> bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
>I got this letter from the AMHA today.  the $$ collected was from the joust. 
>does anyone out there have the name/address of PVO's family? 

 Try his brother Phil at:

       415-747-0821

 He lives in La Honda..

 

 
--
Stefan Fielding-Isaacs     me: (415) 599-4876  me at them: (415) 688-9400  
dba Live-Wire Technologies (a consulting technical writing firm) 
"If you're going to crash, then do it on the first lap because then you
don't wear the engine out for nothing." - Jon Ekerold, 350cc World Champion
From: txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Was: Re: key fobs Now: Jim.harassment...
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:45:41 GMT

jamesf@public.BTR.COM (James G. Franklin  jamesf@btr.com) writes:

>*   Jim Franklin * jamesf@btr.com OR {decwrl,mips,fernwood}!btr!jamesf      *
>*   (insert new bike here)   | Nothing hurts like the loss one feels when   *
>* Triumph 650 (slalom champ) | they lose their first love, get fired from   * 
>* DoD #469          KotP(un) | their first job, or sell their first bike.   * 
                                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Jim's hurting now, as he's fobless, jobless, and bikeless.. (any other
lesses?) ;{> I understand he's trying to figure out how to get that
Cagiva Alazurra (sp?) though... Even at the price of his roommate's good 
will...

Jim, Beth told me yesterday that she had even contemplated offering
you her 250 Exciter for the *Mini Ride and Feed*... It strikes me that
this would have been quite appropriate... :{)

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'72 1000cc Sportster.....'Ol Sport               DoD # 055
^^^^^^^^^^^It *LIVES*!^^^^^^^^^^^^              AMA #524245
                                    Cool as a rule, but sometimes....
Two Jousts and a Gather, *BIG fun!*            (H. Lewis)
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From: steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Radians; BMW helmets
Summary: BMW Helmets NOT DOT approved
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:12:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: isc-br.1992Sep8.151232.5505
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

In article <t8qnvdd.jfh@netcom.com> jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
>Also, one of the MSF instructors had a helmet made by BMW which has a
>fold-up jaw.  It looks much easier than a regular helmet to put on if you
>wear glasses, which I do.  I plan to go to Europe later this year, so I'll
>be able to buy one.  Should I?  Are they as safe as regular helmets?  Are
>they approved for use in the US, California in particular?   
>

BMW helmets such as you describe are no longer imported to the US.  They
are not DOT approved and are therefore illegal in this country.  (The 
new ones, that is.)  Harley Davidson sells a "fold-up" model similar
to the BMW System III.  However, it is expressly marketed NOT as a 
full-face helmet according to the tag on the helmet, suggesting it is not
"as safe as a regular (full face) helmet."  Current Rider magazine (I
believe) has a comparative review of a number of helmets including the
Harley Davidson.  (The review is rather negative as I remember.)

As another visually challenged rider, let me suggest you invest in an
expensive pair of titanium light weight frames.  They can be bent, twisted,
and generally abused without losing their shape.  I've found they are
thin enough to slide on through the front of my helmet without too much
discomfort and strong enough to retain their shape.

Steve


--
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"Bye, George."                         |  UUCP:    ...!uunet!isc-br!thor!steveh
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Castrol Syntec (Oh God! Not oil again!)
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 7 Sep 92 20:56:13 PDT

Has anyone tried Castrol's new Syntec synthetic oil in a bike?  If so,
what are your impressions?  I have two concerns in particular.

 It is only available in 5W-50, but they claim it will replace or
 even mix with any weight of oil.

 The "molecular bonding" shit sounds an awful lot like they're
 trying to get in on the Slick 50 game, which is a game I'm not
 ready to play yet.

So, any Denizens out there with big enough balls to have tried it?

--
|  Greg Orman                         greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
|                   '82 Vision 550 - DoD #0486                   |
|     A man's best friends:  a Harley, a Beretta and a Gund.     |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: Fun with cagers or I'm bored.
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:53:41 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.135513.9357@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:

>My preferred approach, especially with adolescent cagers....
>....find one near a donut shop or with an officer of the law stopped
>at a cross street.

while in pittsburgh over the fourth of july:

i stopped in the right lane, with cage-that'll-blow-my-doors-off in the left
and cages in the left-turn lane.  we're at the heads of our lines.  the guy
(isn't it always?) let it be known he wanted a race.  i blip the throttle a
couple of times while waiting for green.  left-turn gets green.  i race the
engine, give little clutch, move forward as left-turner moves out, then hit
brakes.  jerk in left lane (between us) burns it through his red light.  on
far side of intersection, cops are sitting in shopping center parking lot.
they take him.  i laugh mightily.

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|       Cliff Weston                     '92 Seca II (Tem)                 |
|       DoD# 0598                         [insert witty disclaimer here]   |
|                                                                          |
|  you act like a dick.  jokes are fine, but you have to make some sort    |
|    of motorcycle-related contribution in order to get away with it.      |
|                     -- (DoD# withheld), referring to me                  |
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From: mspencer@apple.com (Mark Spencer)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: La Honda
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:51:31 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
X-XXDate: Fri, 11 Sep 92 22:55:53 GMT

In article <Bu8u44.Fqo@well.sf.ca.us> Robert M. Wert jr.,
rwert@well.sf.ca.us writes:
>Has *anyone* ever made the run from La Honda up to Alice's on Hwy 84
>without having to slow down for a cager?  I had a couple days off a week
>ago, and thought I'd make the run on a weekday when my chances would 
>be better, but over 2 days and 4 runs, I never did it.  I thought I had
>it made once, but just as I came into those last few beautiful turns 
>before Alice's, it was on the brakes, then putt-putt along...   :-(
>What's the secret?

Yeah, we keep running into the same problem...try real early Sat or Sun
am, starting from La Honda around 7 (I haven't managed to get there
before at least 8)..I know what you mean, I love those sweepers!
--
Mark Spencer             
mspencer@apple.com