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Subject: Re: Weird Dream (Re: Astral Projection)
From: hcollings@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:40:10 CST
Organization: University of Missouri-Kansas City

In article <2402@keele.keele.ac.uk>, csz55@seq1.keele.ac.uk (Christopher Wrigley) writes:
> From article <1992Mar24.134529.2416@vax1.umkc.edu>, by hcollings@vax1.umkc.edu:
>> 
>> I am curious about the ringing you had in your ears.  I too had a recurring
>> dream in which the ringing was even paralyzing to me. I felt that if I didn't
>> move I would die.  I would struggle against these deafening sounds to wake
>> myself.  There was no visual aspect to this particular dream.
> 
> Hmmmn, were any of you that experienced this 'ringing' exposed to noise
> before you fell asleep?  eg. In the previous post, does your computer
> make 'loud' noises?  If there was, then this 'ringing' is normal.
> 
> With some people, the slightest noises can cause this strange 'ringing',
> however with me, it's only after I come home after a nightclub etc.
> where the music has been loud.
> 
> If you were not exposed to any noises for up to 2 hours before you fell
> asleep, then I really don't know what it is!

Please see the other posting about loud noise, and thanks for your input.
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: mayer@screech.owlnet.rice.edu (Christopher Francis Mayer)
Subject: Just a nightmare
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 03:45:12 GMT

Just a nightmare

This is the first nightmare I've had in a long time, and I was wondering if it meant anything, or if it was just some odd form of stress relief.  Here goes:

Most of the dream was a good one.  A group of friends and I were looking for some keys toa tomb or something, and we had them all except one, which we found out was located in my church.  So we went to my church and found it.  Here's where things got really wierd...

Some old ladies were struggling to get to the back doors of the church, and I mean struggling.  They looked as if they would die at any second.  But they were laughing.  We were kinda frightened so we were going to leave through a side door.  As we were walking up the aisle, the back doors burst open and a huge wind blew out all the candles leaving us in darkness.  I heard screams as the wind rushed up the back of my clothes.  Then there was a thundering voice that said, "This is a bolt of lightning."  And


 it was a bolt of lightning.  There was a huge blue flash and I flew back into the pews.  My body felt as though it had been torn and broken into little pieces, and before I woke, I saw the bodies of my friends.  

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From: norlin@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Norman Lin)
Subject: Re: The T-1000
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:35:50 GMT

mbfeld@amherst.edu writes:


>Just thought this was worth posting...

>I have watched my fair share of movies and TV in my time, but no character
>has worked its way into my dreams like the liquid metal Terminator from
>"Terminator 2" has.  Over the last 9 months I have had maybe 6-7 memorable
>dreams with him in them.

I had an interesting "lucid" dream a while back where I dreamed I *WAS* the
T2, or at least something capable of changing shape as he did.  In the dream,
I was sitting around a table with some classmates trying to explain to them
what a lucid dream was, then decided to demonstrate first by flying around
the room.  Then I shook someone's hand and said, "now watch, see you're holding
my right hand, but watch how without letting go I can suddenly make it so that
you're holding my left hand."  And I did a T2-type morphing-trick, and there
she was holding my left hand instead.

Unfortunately, all during this time, I felt as if I was simply in a role of
explaining to my friends what a lucid dream was like, without realizing
fully that I was actually dreaming myself!  I could have had some real fun
had I made the full realization.

Oh well, maybe I'll be lucid tonight...

>Marlon Feld
>mbfeld@amherst.edu

Norman
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From: lara@sgi.com (Lara J Allen)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Reading in Dreams
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:50:03 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics Computer Systems,  Mountain View CA.


I've read in dreams.  Usually they're very large books
(tomes?)  and I'm sitting in a big leather couch.

I don't remember what I've read after I wake up
but I usually have the impression that it was
rather pornographic :-)


lara

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From: lkoh@elman.austin.ibm.com (Lisa Koh;Austin)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Reading in Dreams
Keywords: creativity
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:08:40 GMT
Reply-To: ...@cs.utexas.edu:ibmaus!auschs!elman.austin.ibm.com!lkoh
Organization: IBM Austin, TX


> Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 199> 
> I've read writing in a dream once. It was a whole sentence. When I woke
> up I could remember only one or two words though, instead of the whole
> sentence. Sometimes one word has been significant and I've seen it written
> on a chalkboard and rembered it; other times I got it scrambled trying to
> remember it later.
> 
> I think anything is possible in dreams, just like in life, even more so.
> -andrea
> kapitan@cs.uwp.edu


I seem to always be very creative in my dreams, whereas I am not in 
reality....for instance, i recall choreagraphing dance combinations,
writing songs, and designing clothes, all of which would
be much more difficult to do in real life, although not impossible....
they are simply easier in my dreams.

and i feel pretty sure that *I* am creating these things, and that they
are not just things that i may have glimpsed or heard that day and
don't remember.

if i create all these things in my dreams,  then would somebody
explain why i don't in real life??


thanks,
Lisa Koh

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From: kapitan@cs.uwp.edu (Andrea Kapitan)
Subject: Re: Message in a dream
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 16:11:28 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.070342.18211@midway.uchicago.edu> bitn@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1992Apr14.050057.257@uwm.edu> kapitan@cs.uwp.edu (Andrea Kapitan) writes:
>>In article <13APR199215271337@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> scandal@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov writes:
>>>My girlfriend was telling me that she had this very scary dream about a 
>>>spirit trying to contact her.  At first she thought the spirit was evil and 
>>>wanted to stay away from it. But something drew her towards it and let her 
>>>
>>>Any ideas???
>>Just let her know that she is equally as powerful as this spirit and that
>>she can accept or reject anything it says or does; also if she believes in
>>spirits she can ask other good ones to come and help her if it happens
>>again. If she doesn't believe in them, then maybe stay away from the
>>situation altogether. If it doesn't go away then maybe she should talk to
>>some people that are really into that. Someone mentioned channeling in a
>>previous article, maybe they could help somehow.
>>>
>>>Renee
>>-andrea
>>
>>-- 
>>kapitan@cs.uwp.edu
>
> While agree that this dream can be awfully frightening, I don't think it's
>a good idea to automatically assume that it has serious supernatural meaning.

I didn't say it was a spirit. I wasn't there I wouldn't know. SHE felt strongly
that it might be. What the dreamer feels is important is a lot more significant
than what I think or don't think.

>this way.  However, the advice is exactly right.  Try to play on the level
>of whatever is bothering you in this dream.  Remember, though, not everyone
>can exercise this kind of dream control.  If you can, however, communication
>will be much easier (whether the communication is with your brain, or a 
>spirit, or *whatever* :) ).  Good luck!
>
I think everyone can try to become more aware of themselves, and gain some
kind of control over their thoughts and dreams with practice. I'm not saying
it will happen in exactly 2 weeks and 3 days or anything. It's important to
replace fear with some kind of insight. It's important to do something, even
if you just calm yourself down and say positive things to yourself when the
dream is over, rather than just laying there in fear wondering what to do and
feeling totally out of control. It is also easier to calm yourself down if
you've planned for it a little in advance. It's like knowing you're gonna
be in a car accident (hypothetical situation only); I think it might be wise
to wear some padding and a crash helmet.

-andrea
>-- 
>"You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you."
>				-Leon Trotsky


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From: mayor@ic14.umeeng (Cam "You didn't see me!" Mayor)
Subject: dream for thursday morning...
Reply-To: mayor@ic14.umeeng
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 03:36:45 GMT

  In this morning's dream that I remember, I was travelling down
the mississippi river with someone else that seemed familiar but
I can't determine who it was.  We were going from town to town
trying to teach people how to fly.  Although the other man was my
'mentor', he never actually did any of the flying.  (fly without
any artificial aid, BTW)  What was the most frustrating about the
whole thing was that nobody wanted to believe that people could
fly, even though I was showing them RIGHT THERE!  Because nobody
would believe that they COULD fly, nobody would.  I was showing
them freedom, but nobody was willing to take it.

comments?

see you in the morning ;)
cam
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From: kapitan@cs.uwp.edu (Andrea Kapitan)
Subject: Re: Dream writings
Keywords: ascii characters
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 01:26:48 GMT

 This had nothing to do with ascii characters themselves. I guess your
 subconscious told you that you could get a C if you really wanted one
 and  you did great! Next time dream a little sooner, at the start of the
 course and change your "C" into an A. :)

 Funny, yes, but anyone with that much creative visualization power
 might as well put it to good use.
-- 
kapitan@cs.uwp.edu

If only GOD would give me some clear sign! Like making a large deposit
in my name at a Swiss bank...
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: gretchen@cco.caltech.edu (Gretchen Millendore)
Subject: Curious but hesitant
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 21:50:36 GMT

Hello, I've just recently started reading "alt.dreams" and I'm enjoying it
very much.  I myself haven't paid much attention to my dreams lately,
waking up to the horrid combination of my alarm clock the snooze button.  By
the time I finally get out of bed to stumble off into the work day, I've
forgotten any tidbits of my dreams that I might have actually had a grasp on.
I was thinking of starting a "dream journal" to record my dreams because I've
heard that in this way one can actually train one's mind to remember more
and more of what was dreamt; I would like to start exploring my own dream
world.  I'm hesistant, however, because I wonder if my normal waking conditions
will affect the part of the dream I remember.  Will the buzzing alarm, which
my mind begrudgingly associates with an day of work, cloud my perception and
cover over other parts of my dream?
Or, heaven forbid, am I just rambling?  :)
I would appreciate any comments, any stories of how others got interested in
and more in tune with their own dreams.

-Gretchen M.

Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: csjan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jan Faires)
Subject: All those leaves . . .
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 13:44:13 GMT

Having discovered some possible meanings for the message "Do not
judge the falling of the leaves by the ripples on the lake," the
next question is, "Do any of these possible meanings have significance
for the dreamer, given what's going on in both his inner and external
lives?"  

Important sounding messages don't always mean anything.  Case in
point:  one morning I woke up laughing from a joke someone had told
me in my dream.  I don't remember the joke, but the punch line was,
"That's why God gave us Trn!"  

Jan

(I tried to email this note to you, Modest Lord, but it bounced.) =-{
From: hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie S. Hammerl)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Dreaming, talking, replying!
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:42:50 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <tdlynch.703282154@unix1.tcd.ie> tdlynch@unix1.tcd.ie (The Dunster) writes:
>
>[ . . . ] During the night, I dreamt my Mum had enrolled me in a
>course 2 weeks before my exams, to which i reacted by saying:
>		"I'm not doing that!"
>Just at that instant, I felt myself coming out of the dream, hearing
>Ann in the bed opposite saying:
>		"Sorry, Donagh, what did you say?"
>to which I replied:
>		"Don't mind me Ann, I'm just talking in my sleep"
>	"Ok, goodnight"
>
>	The following morning, as I awoke to greet a spliting head-
>ache, I referred Ann to our intimate experience only to find out
>that she recalled none of it! We both admitted that we frequently
>talked in our sleep, although perhaps my brain was playing tricks 
>with me! 


Back about five years ago, during freshman orientation, I shared a
room with two total strangers.  One of them stumbled in at three or so
in the morning (according to her, I recall none of this), and I sat up
in bed.  She asked if I was awake, I said yes, but she didn't think
so (I wasn't, btw).  In any event, we had a two hour chat, according
to her.  She didn't remember what we talked about, being too tired
and hung over.  I didn't remember any of it, and wouldn't believe her,
except that whenever my sister wakes me up and asks me something I
give  clear, distinct answers, such as "I don't think so," or "no, I
like the other one better," or "no, I'm too tired to go."  Sometimes
I'll remember (hours later) that I've said this, but usually not.  But
I usually don't talk out loud while I'm dreaming.  It's more like
auto-pilot. :-)

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From: heard@qut.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Reading in Dreams
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:23:13 EST
Organization: Queensland University of Technology

In article <1992Apr9.220840.3716@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>, 
lkoh@elman.austin.ibm.com (Lisa Koh;Austin) writes:
 
> I seem to always be very creative in my dreams, whereas I am not in 
> reality....for instance, i recall choreagraphing dance combinations,
> writing songs, and designing clothes, all of which would
> be much more difficult to do in real life, although not impossible....
> they are simply easier in my dreams.
> 
> and i feel pretty sure that *I* am creating these things, and that they
> are not just things that i may have glimpsed or heard that day and
> don't remember.
> 
> if i create all these things in my dreams,  then would somebody
> explain why i don't in real life??
> 
> 
> thanks,
> Lisa Koh
 
Hi, Lisa,
         There have already been a couple of replies
posted to your question, but I would rather put things
a bit differently to them. 

A fairly common way of speaking of the creative process
is to talk about the left and right halves of the
brain. In this metaphor the left half is the one
concerned with language, linear logic, evaluating, and
keeping in touch with external reality. The right half
is the intuitive, creative part, accepting multiple 
meanings. 

I would say that in your dreams the right side of your 
brain is having a chance to express itself freely, 
without the left side saying "No". There are some books 
such as "Drawing on the Right Half of the Brain", and 
"Writing with Both sides of the Brain" which can help 
you to use both sides of the brain to cooperate in the 
creative process.

I hope this helps

Take Care
Ronno
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Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: mbfeld@amherst.edu
Subject: The T-1000
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst, MA.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 22:05:26 GMT


Just thought this was worth posting...

I have watched my fair share of movies and TV in my time, but no character
has worked its way into my dreams like the liquid metal Terminator from
"Terminator 2" has.  Over the last 9 months I have had maybe 6-7 memorable
dreams with him in them.  These dreams have had nothing in common except
the beforementioned Terminator.  Some, but not all, have been scary.  I
recently had one with him, not having seen "Terminator 2" for 3 months or so
and having entirely forgotten about him in waking life.

Marlon Feld
mbfeld@amherst.edu

P.S. If you haven't seen "Terminator 2", do so.
From: Joel_Davis@dream.uucp (Joel Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Reading in Dreams
Date: 16 Apr 92 02:44:28 GMT
Organization: DreamStates BBS & CyberNet HQ in G'ville, FL   1-904-331-4317


 DOH> I've read (somewhere) that it's impossible to read writing in
 DOH> dreams, yet I've
 DOH> been able to.

 DOH> Any comments...

Yeah - I recently had a dream in which I drove to my teacher's workplace
and then tried to figure out why the hell I drove there, while I was
pondering this, I noticed a large metal sign, hung on a fence (mor elike a
gate, actually) Anyway, I read it, and although I have no idea what it
said, i remember it being slightly wierd, kinda funny. So I read it again.
It said something entirly diffrent, although just as weird. At this point I
remembered that I had read in a book that if you read something twice and
its diffrent, it is a clue that you are dreaming. So then it turned into a
lucid dream, and I started driving toward someplace more interesting
(australia, I think) but on the way there, I woke up.
 
Anyway, I still want to know what that sign said.
 
Armageton


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Organization: Youngstown State University
Date: Friday, 10 Apr 1992 14:43:56 EDT
From: <00124961@ysub.ysu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Reading in Dreams
 <kdsnlIa00UzxA4GGBM@andrew.cmu.edu>
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 <1992Apr10.165311.20929@uwm.edu>

Hey Ernie, I just dreamt that I talked to you about blond jokes.  More on the
more on the way.

Chris
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From: gordon@aero.org (Kenneth J. Gordon)
Subject: Re: Reading in Dreams
Keywords: creativity
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:44:05 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.220840.3716@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> ...@cs.utexas.edu:ibmaus!auschs!elman.austin.ibm.com!lkoh writes:
>
>> Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
>> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 199> 
>> I've read writing in a dream once. It was a whole sentence. When I woke
>> up I could remember only one or two words though, instead of the whole
>> sentence. Sometimes one word has been significant and I've seen it written
>> on a chalkboard and rembered it; other times I got it scrambled trying to
>> remember it later.
>> 
>> I think anything is possible in dreams, just like in life, even more so.
>> -andrea
>> kapitan@cs.uwp.edu
>
>
>I seem to always be very creative in my dreams, whereas I am not in 
>reality....for instance, i recall choreagraphing dance combinations,
>writing songs, and designing clothes, all of which would
>be much more difficult to do in real life, although not impossible....
>they are simply easier in my dreams.
>
>and i feel pretty sure that *I* am creating these things, and that they
>are not just things that i may have glimpsed or heard that day and
>don't remember.
>
>if i create all these things in my dreams,  then would somebody
>explain why i don't in real life??

I once saw an interview with a dream expert on a documentary.  He said
that there is the biological equivalent of a "significance flag"
inside our brains which often get turned on by our dreams.  That seems
to make a lot of sense to me.  I have, in the past, come up with ways
to end world hunger in my dreams.  The next day, when I read what I
wrote down after the dream, I find something like, "Eat more popcorn,
use sugar instead of salt."  I then key into the idea I had, which
seemed significant at the time, but really made no sense.

Then again, I have also dreamed of original ideas which made sense
after I woke up.  The subconscious, it seems, can do problem-solving,
but it doesn't know the definition of a good solution.

Perhaps you dreamed up a dance that you choreographed which was only
as good as one you could think of in your waking life.  In your dream,
though, it just seemed better.

It is also possible that perhaps you have an innate talent for dance
that your conscious side doesn't know about, and you can indeed dream
very creatively.

Oh well, food for thought...

- Ken Gordon
  gordon@aerospace.aero.org
Organization: Youngstown State University
Date: Thursday, 16 Apr 1992 21:18:15 EDT
From: <00087793@ysub.ysu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Just a nightmare
Distribution: usa

could mean that you have seen too many "nightmare on elm street" movies in conn
ection w/ indiana jones and the flash.  could be you dropped some nasty acid, t
oo.  let me tell you one thing, you've probably got a lot of bent up stress and
 should take a vacation this summer.  something adventurous like white-water ra
fting for example.  but, what the hell do i know???  i am not sigmund freud....