HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: page@nightshade.cs.odu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.discordia
Subject: primetime news
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:39:57 GMT
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, Va


i don't watch the news after all as soon as they
have some good news on they follow it up with
some plague or flood or something i don't like 
that *can you* it gets me depressed there's just no
use in even trying to keep up in *can you see them?*
modern society SHUT UP SHUT UP theres just too much
bad stuff not enough good stuff know what i mean
at the drop of a hat *can you see the fnords?*
someone dies and probably gorily anyway SHUT UP SH-
-UT UP SHUT UP and one of these days it will be me
*it will be you*  oh god oh jesus oh anybody with
any mite of power please listen to me except George
Bush why is the *ross listens* no he doesnt hes just 
another politician world this way is this because of
some secret society *no, we do not exist* of course
you dont or maybe because or the malicious creation
or order or is it just eris talking to me using the
world as a mouth *is it really a mouth?* am i going
crazy or am i going sane everythings relative i know.
-- 
"You wake up in the morning, get something for the pot, wonder
why the sun makes the rocks feel hot, draw on the walls, eat, 
get laid, Back in the good ol' days" --R. Waters
page@offa.cs.odu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.discordia
From: holt_c@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: Fun stuff to do..........
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:54:26 GMT

In article <92278.130831IO10184@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, <IO10184@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
> Greetings and Halucinations,
> 
>   Fun things to do number one.
>        If you have a Campus Crusade for Christ chapter in
> your school or area, change their signs to read Campus
> Crusade for Chaos, and doctor it up appropriately.
> 
> Pat
> Keeper of the Golden Apple
> 
>                        *********************************
>                        *Nuke a gay whale for christ!   *
>                        *Pat is IO10184@MAine.Maine.edu *
>                        *********************************

Some things that people have done on campus here is refer to them as the Kampus
Krusade for Krist (KKK).  They have even been called Campus Crusade for
Cthulhu.  

One really fun thing I did once was to actually infiltrate another group called
the Church of Christ for a few months when I had too much spare time on my
hands.  I'll tell you about it later, I have too many things to get finished
right now.
						Sincerely
						Lieutenant Wilkes
From: sa114984@longs.lance.colostate.edu (Steven Arnold)
Newsgroups: alt.discordia
Subject: Re: Eris and God!
Keywords: FNORD
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:23:17 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1992Oct3.004553.19323@news.columbia.edu>, mac20@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Michael A Cecere) writes:
|> 
|> -Servants of Cthulhu

	Has anybody ever seen that bumper sticker, "Campus Crusade for Cthulhu"?

convictions make convicts, eh?
Newsgroups: alt.discordia
From: page@nightshade.cs.odu.edu (D.)
Subject: Too much Zents
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, Va
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 15:29:08 GMT



What is the sound of one Eris discording?












Help I've tunnel vision and i'm claustrophobic!
-- 
"Please hand me that refrigerator." 
			--G. Carlin

page@chrysanthemum.cs.odu.edu
From: eddie@hermes.oit.unc.edu (Edward M. Averett)
Newsgroups: alt.discordia
Subject: Cabals
Summary: Let's popularize our cabals....
Keywords: Stuart Little Cabal
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:28:27 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill

The Stuart Little Cabal

there are only two rules to be a member of the Stuart Little Cabal: 

1) Absolutely No Being Mean. 
2) Nix on Swiping Anything. 

if you repeat these two rules to anyone (even your dog) and even partially
believe them, then Welcome to the Cabal.   If you don't and want to still be
a member of the Cabal, then we'll make an exception.

(With all due respect to T.E. White and his wonderful characters and books.)


				-eddie@legba.oit.unc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.discordia
From: mwlucas@vela.acs.oakland.edu (The Panicked Hamster)
Subject: Pranks?
Organization: jOakland fUniversity, Rochester MI.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:36:43 GMT


	Okay, world, let's get a good thread going here?

	We need some good mind-opening pranks to pull on the University here.
Anybody got any ideas/suggestions?

	Also, has anyone else seen _Reality is what you can get away with_
by RA Wilson?

-- 
Michael Lucas				mwlucas@vela.acs.oakland.edu
Doom?
From: al677@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jerry Cosyn)
Newsgroups: alt.prose
Subject: Figments
Date: 29 Sep 1992 13:49:05 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


                           FIGMENTS
 
 
Said she: "Let us fuck."  And we did.
 
Said she: "Let's listen to Mahler while I go down on you and you slide
this inside me."  And it was so.
 
"Eat me with a mouth full of horseradish," she said, "while the
camcorder runs on the dresser."  And the camera whirred while she
squirmed and kicked till my eyes watered and my jaw was nearly
unhinged.
 
"Let's drive to Mexico," she simpered, "and find adventure and
excitement in a foreign land."  So we lived in a Honda for a week and
a half, saw tin roofs and squalor and pock-mark faced whores, spent
three weeks pay on a pound of brown grass, and came home with a dose
of the clap.
 
She said: "I'm bored.  Let's try something new."  So we both quit our
jobs, and hitched to Nevada with a van full of coke-snorting dykes.
There was nothing new to be found in the desert, but she learned what
a superfreeze was.
 
"I'm leaving you," she said, with a self-righteous pout.  "You just
don't know how to satisfy my needs."
Newsgroups: alt.prose,alt.non.sequitur
From: exs16@po.CWRU.Edu (Eugene Shumulinsky)
Newsgroups: alt.prose
Subject: Chaos
Date: 29 Sep 1992 19:03:07 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: exs16@po.CWRU.Edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu




     CHAOS               (Circles of the Mind)
     ~~~~~
               by Nighthawkk

   Twisting, turning...

   Another sleepless night as I lay
in bed thinking of her.  Will she ever
stop haunting my thoughts, my dreams?
   I can't continue on like this.
   I sit up in bed and look out my
window at the still winter night.
   The full moon is setting in the
western skies.  It shall be morning soon.
   Clouds are rushing in from the east,
slowly devouring the pulsing stars.
   There are still lights blinking and
flashing on nearby houses, even though the
holidays are over.
   No cars pass by, no wind disturbs
the picture painted outside my window.
   And as I sit staring out at the
sleeping world, it gently starts to snow.
   Snow.
   It brings back memories of her, and the
reminder that once again I sleep alone...

                      twisting, turning...


(c)  December 1991
-- 
   Nighthawkk   | "No one holds command over me.  No man.  No god.  No Prince.
       of       |  What is a claim of age for ones who are immortal?  What is a
 NIGHTMARE Inc. |  claim of power for ones who defy death?  Call your damnable 
                |  hunt.  We shall see who I drag screaming to Hell with me."
Newsgroups: alt.prose
From: weed@venus.ycc.yale.edu
Subject: a plea for understanding
Organization: Yale Computer Center (YCC)
Date: 4 Oct 92 19:29:40 EDT

Before this new story becomes a focus for a flame war ...
To  Ms. Rolling:
It is possible that the person who flamed you didn't know that you have a
learning disability.  I, too, am disabled, in that I can not see, and so many
of my errors slip by me as i type.  I have been flamed, but I remember that
they don't know that I can't see, and so I just let them bounce off without
comment.  Be patient with people who don't know you, his intention probably was
not to insult you personally, (yes, I am interpreting here),  but to remind all
of us to do what we can to ensure that errors are corrected before they're
posted.
To James?:
Please don't post things to the net about people's spelling/grammar,  unless
you don't know what conditions they're writing under.  Everyone is not "normal"
and they may not have all of the physical advantages that you may have.  Why do
I post this?
Simple:  It is a request that both writers, and readers, do what they can to
keep such flame wars off of the net, as we are all different, and I doubt
seriously that we can all demand perfection here all of the time.
Matt
PS keep  the stories coming!!!!!
From: curtis@cs.berkeley.edu (Curtis Yarvin)
Newsgroups: alt.prose
Subject: Re: New Three Word Story Game (10/2/92)
Date: 3 Oct 1992 01:16:17 GMT
Organization: CS Dept. Snakepit - Do Not Feed.
NNTP-Posting-Host: adder.cs.berkeley.edu
Keywords: ditch that masked sandwich.


Keep low, boy.  You gotta keep low.  When they're after you
there ain't no substitute for keepin low.

Stuck my head out of a culvert once, in KC.  I was young and
stupid, feelin my oats.  Growler charged me.  Things go about
six times faster n' you can run.  Missed me by about two feet;
I was cleaning shit off my pants for the next month.

Nosirree bob.  Gotta keep low.  Keep low and they won't see you.
Not even the walkers.  Truth be told I think they really are
people; but they're even more dangerous than the growlers.
Once they get your scent they won't hold off; and they hunt in
packs.  One time I had about ten of them chasing me - the blue
ones.  Nasty fuckers.  Finally hid in a ditch, and after a
while they went away; but you never know.  Could be after me
still.  Sticky lot.

Have a sandwich, boy.  Gum sandwich.  Swear to god you've never
tasted nothing like it before.  Got it in this cave downtown;
lot of walkers and they run real big growlers through every
once in a while, but it ain't so hard to hide.  Sometimes you
can even pick up food.

Well, I think that's what it's called.  Don't know for sure.
You pick up some things hangin around the walkers, but never
really enough to understand them.

No, it just ain't possible.  You'll learn.  They say my
grandfather was kind of interested, studied them, tried to find
out things.  But he got cocky - thought he was too good.  One
day he was down in the cave when whole hordes of them came
marching in, all masked.  There-

Yeah, masked.  Long black masks, they say, kind of pointy, like
rats' heads.  Never seen nothing like it myself, but, hell,
anything is possible.  Anyway, there was no place to hide, so
he thought he'd bite the apple, steal a mask and try to mix
in.  The family jumped a bunch of them that were cut off from
the rest and got masks enough for everyone.  It worked perfect -
but after two hours the place cleared out, and nobody knows
what was going through grandpa's head but damned if he didn't
go with them.  Up outside.  Ditched his family without a word.
Nobody ever saw no hair of him again.

c
Newsgroups: alt.prose
From: txdv1@isuvax.iastate.edu (Angela KAY Rolling)
Subject: reply to James K Earp
Reply-To: txdv1@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 22:09:04 GMT

1: A spellchecker was run over the text befor it was posted.
 The spellcheacker that I have must recognize a word as looking wrong or
it wont singal it out.
 The spellchecker that is on the sistem that I am working of from I havent
been able to git to work right.
2: I have a learning disability. Its called Disgafea and efects -the grafical
presentation of writen languige-.
	If it intrages you so much then it should me worth reading.
3: You show a good deal of intolerince for the limatations of uthers.
It is times like this that I hope that the Laws of Karma are corect.

ELF-KIN
Newsgroups: alt.prose
From: kswazey@nyx.cs.du.edu (Kyrsten Swazey)
Subject: Hallucinations
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 23:44:46 GMT


~v
Hallucinations

Hallways shrouded in mist.  Memories fogged by hallucinations.  She knew
by the drugs coursing through her system that this, despite the apparent
solidity of being, could not be real.  And her memories?  Though few and
fleeting, these were all she could cling to.
A darkened room, a whispy woman, secured to the sterile linens by illusory
bonds.  Shonti covertly slid an emaciated arm beneath the covers of her
bed, down between the mattress and box-spring.  There, the two bony
fingers alit upon the cold of steel and, with them, she slid the prize
into the open air.  Into her vision.
It swam before her, the lovely carving knife, worn black handle and
glittering steel.  Brown and black flakes smattered the surface, adding a
richness of texture.  A personality.  Shonti wept; *this* pain was hers
and it was her secret, one of both joy and sorrow.  How else, in a room
not her own, in a land she had not asked to enter could she know?
Every day and evey night Shonti screams to awaken, for she knows that it
is *they* who make her sleep.  In her meals and in her drink they secret
potions.  And this is why she mutilates herself - to *know*, to let them
know she knows.
She rolls closer to the nightstand, placing her right hand on the
varnished surface.  With her left, she wields the carving knife, first
resting it delicately upon the last finger of her right hand, her ring
finger.  In sorrow she sighs - she had meant to save this last one for the
ring she knew the doctor would give her.  With a faint exhalation, she
jerks her arm and knife collides with bone.  It is well-honed and severs
the finger with a snap; steel contacts wood in a chopped-off thump.
Shonti gazes numbly as blood first triskles then rushes from the stump of
finger.  Languidly, she reaches for a tissue.  Enwrapping the finger, she
slides open the night stand drawer and drops it inside.  In its bloody
blanket, it nestles beside seven others.
"Pigs in blankets," she muses to herself, and then, "I'm going to have to
think of another way."  But as she loses consciousness she smiles, assured
of her own reality in a realm of mists.

A woman in white, the night attendant, strides in.  She glances at Shonti
and "tusks" under her breath.  Silently, she straightens the covers.  Upon
the nightstand is a magic marker; she drops it into the drawer, which
holds eight Crayola crayons, and gently closes it.  With one last look,
the attendant notes eight black marks at the base of Shonti's fingers.
As she exits the room, the attendant mutters, "We're going to have to get
her some paper."

                                                      XTC
From: dsimon@informix.com (Don Simon)
Newsgroups: alt.prose
Subject: Re: reply to James K Earp
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:39:12 GMT
Reply-To: dsimon@informix.com
Organization: Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory


Bull...

If such a worthless spell-checker exists, why would anyone buy it?  A learning
disability is not a license to be lazy...if you are unable to proof your own work
then ask a friend to do so for you.  You showed a great deal of your own 
intolerance by lambasting James Earp for not accepting your limitations; unless I
missed it, your original post made no mention of the fact that you have 'Disgafea',
nor that you were unable to get your spell-checker to work.  And why did you post
to alt.prose if you were not ready to accept criticism of your work?


Just some thoughts,

Don Simon
From: jfarmer@fraser.sfu.ca (Jason Michael Farmer)
Subject: USS Cavalier
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:04:48 GMT

ould someone please send me the complete USS Cavalier story.

Jason Farmer
jfarmer@fraser.sfu.ca
From: william@cs.arizona.edu (William E. Hertling)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: Warp Speed
Date: 3 Oct 92 19:21:23 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <MenPcH200awME22kUw@andrew.cmu.edu> saavik+@CMU.EDU (Elizabeth Amy Mcgovern) writes:
>The warp speed equation is x raised to the 10/3.
>This is for STTNG...
>The resulting number is how many times c you are going.
>Hope that helps some...

This does seem to work for the values given, but somehow, it's just not
correct. Warp 10 is supposed to be infinitely fast, and even Warp 9.99999
should be really really fast (as stated in the ST:TNG Tech manual, where
they talk about Q throwing the ship around....). Inputing Warp 9.999999
into your equation doesn't give a really huge number though...

william@cs.arizona.edu

	-	D	R	A	G	O	N	-
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: wales@valeria.cs.ucla.edu (Rich Wales)
Subject: Re: Two-script limit (was Re: FAQL: HOW TO SUBMIT CREATIVE MATERIAL)
Reply-To: wales@CS.UCLA.EDU (Rich Wales)
Organization: UCLA CS Department, Los Angeles
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 06:23:27 GMT

Otto Heuer wrote:

	Paramount now has a limit of two speculative script sub-
	missions per writer (or writing team).  If you submit a
	third script it is returned unread.  The form attached to
	such scripts states that if you are submitting through
	an agent, they will consider any number of scripts.  How-
	ever, at least one person has posted to r.a.s stating that
	despite having an agent, they are not allowed to submit
	more than two scripts.

I believe this "one person" was me.

Initially (about a year ago), when I went to my agent to give him my
third ST:TNG script, he was told by Paramount that they wouldn't take
it because of the two-script limit.

However, when I asked Paramount again (myself) last June, I was told
that the two-script limit was =not= being enforced against scripts sub-
mitted via agents.  I dusted off my third script, made a few revisions,
and gave it to my agent (explaining to him what the Paramount person
had told me).  Since he hasn't gotten back to me to chew me out for
making a fool of him :-}, I assume the script was not summarily bounced.

The supplementary script guidelines as of a year ago made no exception
to the two-script limit for agented scripts.  If (as Otto reported)
this exception is now included in the guidelines, I must assume that
Paramount initially imposed the limit on everyone but then changed its
mind.

Has anyone else with an agent been rebuffed on "two-script-limit"
grounds?  If not, then I propose that the last sentence in the above
quote from Otto's FAQ list is obsolete and should be deleted.

BTW, I'm still waiting to hear back regarding my 2nd and 3rd scripts.
Paramount has had #2 for somewhat over a year now, so I assume it's at
least made their "first cut".  They've only had #3 for two or three
months so far, so I wouldn't expect to hear back from them for a while
yet.  (My first script was rejected after about five months.)

--
Rich Wales <wales@CS.UCLA.EDU> // UCLA Computer Science Department
3531 Boelter Hall // Los Angeles, CA 90024-1596 // +1 (310) 825-5683
From: rahayden@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Robert Hayden)
Subject: Re: There are 4 other Star Trek Groups!
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 22:13:10 GMT

scduncan@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Sean C. Duncan) writes:

>This is *really* getting on my nerves.

>This group is not for talking about Riker's rank, warp speeds, or anything
>not related to the posting and discussion of Star Trek stories.  I hate to
>be a d*ck, but this has been a recurring problem and is one that needs to
>be rectified *now*.  

>There are several other groups in which to discuss these matters.  Please
>go to r.a.s.current, r.a.s.misc, r.a.s.fandom, or r.a.s.tech.

>Don't even try to flame me,

I sense great distress..... :)

-- 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 Robert Hayden                  | Black holes result    | My views do not 
 rahayden@UMAXC.WEEG.UIOWA.EDU  | from God dividing the | reflect the views
 AQ650@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU    | universe by zero      | of my employer.
From: ie98@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: Re: Warp Speed
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 01:05:30 GMT

In article <Bv4Ku6.AwM@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, hartlemp@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Michael P Hartley) writes:
> In article <N1ymRB4w165w@bluemoon.rn.com> tunal@bluemoon.rn.com (Atul Varma) writes:
>>        Well, somebody asked exactly how fast warp speed was. Well, 
>>according to the ST TNG technical manual, Warp Factor 1 is light speed. 
>>Warp factor 3 is 39 times the speed of light, and it keeps on increasing 
>>faster and faster. Buy the ST TNG tech manual. It's the only canon book 
>    Is it a linear relationship, quadratic, or what?  We just need one more
> relationship, like warp 2 is, what, 13c, or 19.5c, or ....

It's an exponential one. In the first generation, the speed is the warp factor
cubed. With 'present' technology, it was thought that 1000c was the top speed
that could never be passed. Therefore, they assigned warp 10 to this value.

In the next generation, they have figured out how to go to almost 10000c, so
the speed is the warp factor to the fifth power.

Here's a comparison table:

1st generation speed		Warp factor	Next Generation speed
1c				1		1c
8c				2		32c
27c				3		243c

and so forth.



> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>        "I don't know what's in there, but it's big, and it's PISSED OFF!"  
> ---------------------------------------|---------------------------------------
>    Michael P Hartley                 #           |  Physicist by Choice 
>                       ****           |           |  Mathematician by Accident
>    Purdue University (====()---------\---------| |  CS student by Mistake
>                       ****           |           |  Brilliant by act of God
>    hartlemp@mentor.cc.purdue.edu     -           |  Poor by act of Congress 
> 
> 
roger
From: g92n3258@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR RL NICOL)
Subject: Star Trek Voyages????
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 12:36:15 GMT

Perhaps, I'm missing something, but I don't have the faintest idea what STV 
is.  If someone would like to fill me in....

Thanks.
Ryan.
From: william@cs.arizona.edu (William E. Hertling)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: Warp Speed
Date: 3 Oct 92 00:15:24 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

[A great deal deleted to save bandwidth]

>Here's a comparison table:
>
>1st generation speed		Warp factor	Next Generation speed
>1c				1		1c
>8c				2		32c
>27c				3		243c
>
>and so forth.

According to the ST:TNG Technical Guide, these are the speeds for the
various Warp Factors:

Warp 1: 1c
Warp 2: 10c
Warp 3: 39c
Warp 4: 102c
Warp 5: 214c
Warp 6: 392c
Warp 7: 656c
Warp 8: 1024c
Warp 9: 1516c

Accordingly, at Warp 9, it would take 26 hours to reach Alpha Centuri,
our nearest neighbor. This is pretty interesting, because the general
impression I get on the show is that they are zipping around rather 
rapidly. When they show a view out a portal, and you see stars warping
by, that just isn't realistic. They aren't really moving fast enough that
stars would be passing by that rapidly. For the most part, stars are
really far apart.

My estimate for Warp 9.6, the fastest speed the Big-E can manage, is
about 2500-3000 times c. (This is an estimate because I don't know the
actual algorithm used in determining the Warp speeds, I'm just reading
them off the chart, and the chart isn't all that exact.
So, even at Warp 9.6 (assuming a value of 3000c), it would take 13.1
hours to reach Alpha Centuri. The Enterprise isn't even capable of
maintaining Warp 9.6 for that long.

Assuming that not every star has planets (as we do indeed scientifically
know today), and that not every world is capable of sustaining life
(as the crew of ST:TNG remind us from time to time) we can see that 
traveling from one populated planet to another could easily take
many days of travel time at Warp 9. On the show, we see commonly see
the Enterprise lazily drifting through space at Warp 2, 3, 4 or even 5.
That translates to MONTHS of travel time. It all just doesn't fit
together very well.

william@cs.arizona.edu

	-	D	R	A	G	O	N	-