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From: Michelle.Walters@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: SWF iso S*M to be SO
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov  5 1992
Date: 09 Nov 92  22:32:36

Newsgroups: alt.personals,alt.personals.ads
Subject: SWF iso S*M to be SO
Distribution: usa

        I'm 35, 5'4", usually < 100lbs.  I have long blond hair,
green eyes and (IMHO) am very attractive, but you be the judge of
that.  I think I have a very good sense of humor and that's one of
the first things I look for in a guy.  I can laugh at myself and I
try never to take myself too seriously.

        I've always been very interested in science and would like
my SO to be as well although that shouldn't be the main topic of
conversation on a date.

        As far as work, I've been a certified electronic technician
for over 10 years but am presently looking for work.  I have my own
computer consulting/installation/repair/programming business called
Tesseract Technologies.  But much of the work I do is for friends,
at cost so it doesn't pay well.

        I'm enjoy cycling, swimming and skiing and am in very good
shape I ride a 12 speed about 46-63 miles every day but am not
particularly athletic, I just enjoy riding to the beach.  I can
tolerate watching baseball or basketball but only if someone I'm
with is interested in it.

I like a guy to take care of all the details of a date and
I'm sensitive to his needs as well.  I don't have expensive tastes
but I really like to try new things.

        I have a wide ranging taste in music, from Bach to Siouxsie
and the Banshees, REM, Crowded House, Enya, Peter Gabriel...  If
your in the S.  Calif.  area then the fact that I listen to KROQ and
KPFK should have some significance.  About the only TV I watch is
STTNG (I used to watch Dr.  Who but I'm burnt out on it.), Melrose
Place, LA Law and anything on PBS that has anything to do with
science.

        I like animals and used to have a mostly arabian mare and at
one time I had a 15' python and numerous other odd pets.  Now I just
have two cats and that's enough.

        I'm presently in the city of tustin in S.  Calif.  but hope
to move to the SF bay area eventually (I'm sick of being one of the
only progressive liberals in orange county.) So if your in ether of
those general areas send me some email so we can get together some
time.

        Send all email to one of the following addresses:
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Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.pagan,alt.romance,alt.sex,alt.polyamory
From: corun@access.digex.com (Corun MacAnndra)
Subject: Re: raising children
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:39:36 GMT

I'd be interested to see an experiment conducted, where two groups of
children, both male and female, are raised in households, one of all
men, and one of all women. A fair mix would include gays as well as
straights on the parent side, in order to give the children as well
rounded a set of experiences as possible.

I've always felt that women make a generally better parent than men, 
though I suspect that this is changing as more men come to terms with
their own emotional needs and such. This suppostition leads back to
an earlier comment I made about roles for men and women. I've felt,
for example, that women make better councilors and psychologists than
men, simply because they deal with pain on a more regular basis than
men (menstruation, labour, etc.), and are therefore better equiped, in
most (disclaimer: this is not meant as a sweeping generalization) cases,
to handle another's pain. Naturally, given the way society tends to
work, this is not always true. But I believe the hypothesis has merit,
and is valid.

Rereading my first paragraph, let me add a third household of mixed
gender to the list. Also, none of these multiple partner households
implies that any of the partners are married, engaged, or even
sexually involved with one another, though that can't be ruled out
either. The idea of partnership should not imply matrimonial ties
of any kind for any of the partners, but won't exclude it either. Nor
do the children have to be related by blood to any of the parents.

Any sociologists out there have any ideas on this? I'd love to compare
the children that would come out of these households.

Bb,
Corun









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From: nehs@romulus.rutgers.edu (-Killer Klondike-)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Top 5 resason...
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:45:20 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Top 5 things a man doesn't want to hear from a woman he's interested in...

5. Why?
4. No.
3. I don't know.
2. You are such a nice guy.
1. I just want to be friends.

-the Perpetual Bachelor-
From: tps@jptcs.COM (Tim Sailer)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: being between "Just Friends" and "relationship" and "kill me".
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:11:06 GMT
Reply-To: tps@jptcs.com
Distribution: na
Organization: JPT Computer Solutions, Port Jeff Station, NY
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

james.j.dutton (jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com) wrote:
: In article <5688@jptcs.COM> tps@jptcs.com writes:
: >james.j.dutton (jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com) wrote:
: >: Which brings up another interesting topic. Why do you think (apart from the
: >: fear and preoccupation) hamsters are usually brown on top and white on
: >: the bottom? Do you think they believe in themselves or figure it's just
: >: an illusion? I'll post a summary starlit night later. 
: >
: >Could it be because I turn the toaster oven on broil instead of toast?
: >I hate it when the bottoms don't get done! :)
: 
: I love their lil bottoms too.

Yeah... they DO have a cute little tail, don't they? :)

-- 
Tim Sailer
JPT Computer Solutions - SCO Sales/Consulting/Administration and Mangling
Port Jefferson Station, NY
(516) 331-9001
From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: That wacky electoral college
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:13:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: grover.MARTINC.92Nov9171344
	<MARTINC.92Nov6110631@grover.cs.unc.edu> <XASY2A=_K@linac.fnal.gov>
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: matt@severian.chi.il.us's message of 9 Nov 92 01:00:46 GMT

In article <XASY2A=_K@linac.fnal.gov> matt@severian.chi.il.us (Matt Crawford) writes:
   I find it hard to credit some of the answers I have read here to the
   question "why do we have the [adjective] electoral college."  Charles
   Martin got half the answer, but for a fuller explanation, look in the
   newspaper.  Specifically, the letter by Alexander Hamilton (writing
   under the name Publius) in *The Independent Journal* of March 12,
   1788 and in *The New-York Packet* two days later.

Any chance for a reference to the Federalist Papers by paper number or
some such -- or even better a gistr of it?  My copy of the Federalist
Papers is in storage, and I lost my collection of the *New York Packet*
in a move some years ago.
--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: PRES DEBATE
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:59:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: grover.MARTINC.92Nov6105938
	<MARTINC.92Nov2092942@grover.cs.unc.edu>
	<1992Nov2.155337.7689@cbnewsd.cb.att.com>
	<MARTINC.92Nov2172556@hatteras.cs.unc.edu>
	<ewright.720905707@convex.convex.com>
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In-reply-to: ewright@convex.com's message of 4 Nov 92 19:35:07 GMT

In article <ewright.720905707@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:

   In <MARTINC.92Nov2172556@hatteras.cs.unc.edu> martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:

   >Then there was Kennedy -- The one
   >whose brother, Bobby, had been one of McCarthy's attorneys on the
   >Communist witch hunts, but who he nominated for Attorney General anyway?

   What's so surprising about that?  Wasn't JFK the only Democratic Senator to
   vote against McCarthy's censure?

I don't know one way or the other ... but if so, it's another of those
interesting things.  One of those things that don't seem to be talked
about since the Beatification.


--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: girl/lady/female boy/guy/male
Date: 13 Nov 92 19:39:30 GMT
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
In-reply-to: jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu's message of 12 Nov 92 20:55:32 GMT


In article <1992Nov12.205532.31624@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH) writes:

   >|> Better than dating a sculpture...

   smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith) writes:
   >HEY! WATCH IT BUD...SOME OF MY BEST FRIENDS ARE SCULPTURES.
   >

   What he said! And my favorite movies are "Mannequin" and "Mannequin 2"! So
   watch it!

Well I'll be stoned!

But isn't it hard being involved with such a stiff and unyielding
personality?


Spidey!!!

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From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: raising children
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:53:45 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

isr@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Michael S. Schechter - ISR group account) writes:

>I see a problem with same-sex parents, it's that the child(ren) will
>-probably- (see, I'm NOT saying WILL) miss out ona wide range of
>emotional responses and thought patterns.. They'll either see all-male,
>or all-female type behaivor. Of course, single-parent child-raising has
>the same problems..  

Children have plenty of opportunities to see peoples' emotional responses
and thought patterns in the world outside their families. If you want to 
expose a child to a wide range of emotional responses and thought patterns, 
you need to expose the child to lots of different people from different 
backgrounds. It is unlikely that two parents of any sex will exhibit a
a wide range of human behavior.

I think the concept of "male behavior" and "female behavior" is vastly
overgeneralized -- there's far more overlap than difference in the behavior
of men and women. But I do think that a child is aware of his/her gender
and needs to have a close relationship with one or more adults of his/her 
sex as role models. They needn't be parents, however. 

Every parent or set of parents will face different challenges and will have
different strengths and weaknesses when it comes to raising kids. We need 
to quit trying to decide what *the best* kind of family is and begin 
examining the *specific* things a child needs -- social contact, appropriate 
challenges, appropriate protection, teaching, and so forth. Then each family 
can decide how best to provide those.

--
Stef
stef@apple.com       Suppose there were no hypothetical questions?
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: PRES DEBATE
Organization: Intergraph
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:52:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.221203.18305@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
> In article <1992Nov4.171823.7753@b8.b8.ingr.com> larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings) writes:
> >In article <Bx5uC3.4LG@access.digex.com>, huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
> >> 
> >> None of these problems (global warming, ozone depletion, rainforest
> >> destruction) can have a lasting solution without human population control.
> >> Since George Bush is one of the two chief obstacles, that's why I voted
> >> against him a few hours ago.
> >
> >Please excuse my Obvious ignorance, but pray tell just how is George Bush
> >one of the "two chief obstacles" in the problems of WORLD OVERPOPULATION???????
> 
> Largely through the simple but effective technique of blocking funding for
> any international aid projects that include the distribution of contraceptives
> or birth control information.  This policy was initiated under Reagan and
> continued under Bush.  Fortunately for the planet, it seems likely that this
> policy will be rescinded early next year.
> 

That is great, Bush has been critized in the news for months for spending too
much money on other peoples problems when we have our own money problems at 
home.  Now he is being roasted because he didn't send more money overseas.
JUST WHAT DOES A POLITICIAN HAVE TO DO?

Larry Billings
---

Well, with the election over it's time for a new .sig [not that the old one
is not appropriate, it's even more appropriate] but let's review it.

Most of us are sad,

[Well, the rest will be soon enough]

No one let's it show,

[And you will have no money to show]

I've been shadows of myself,

[But could still see my position better than most]

How was I to know?

[Can't answer that, but I did know]

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NEWSIG
Wantad: Single White Male "WITH" job seeks Single Female with job and 2 or
more kids.  Object: Marriage so we can avoid Clintons tax increases.
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Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.sex,talk.abortion
From: daniel@clsi.COM (Daniel Barclay)
Subject: Re: Just a Technical Point
Followup-To: soc.singles,alt.sex,talk.abortion
Organization: CAD Language Systems Inc.
Date: 9 Nov 92 10:27:29

> Modern Day Problems:
> Hickory, Dickory, Dock - Three Mice Ran up a Clock
> The Clock Struct one, 
> and the Other Two will be Upgraded In the Next Release.
Or:
...and the other two escaped with minor injuries.
--
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Daniel S. Barclay			CAD Language Systems, Inc.
					Suite 101, 5457 Twin Knolls Rd.
Why can't _I_ think of a signature?	Columbia, MD  21045  USA
From: spetter@photon.swdc.stratus.com (Scott Spetter)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: KILLING  a Poster rather than a Post
Date: 10 Nov 92 23:45:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc., San Jose, CA


"Killfiles don't kill posters .... newsreaders do"

Now not a WORD about the Second Amendment : )
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: schock@flip.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Craig-Richard Schock)
Subject: Re: Education and the Single World
Reply-To: schock@flip.cpsc.ucalgary.ca
Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:47:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.212218.3329@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>  
allisson@turing.toronto.edu (H. Allisson Roome) writes:
> 1.
>   You meet someone who is articulate, [...]
>   A) They have a significant amount more formal schooling (ie,
>      degrees) than you.  
>   B) have approximately the same amount of education as you
>   C) they have never finished college (or for the younger readers
>      high school).
> Do any of those scenarios affect your willingness to date that
> person -- especially given that you already like them.

If the person was, as you said, articulate, well informed, etc then the amount  
of formal education wouldn't affect my decision to (or not to) date this  
person.  There's a lot more to life than text-book knowledge

> 2.
>   You meet someone who has a difficult time expressing themselves,
>   [...]
>   A) They have a significant amount more formal schooling (ie,
>      degrees) than you.  
>   B) have approximately the same amount of education as you
>   C) they have never finished college (or for the younger readers
>      high school).
> 
> Do any of the above affect how you relate to the person as a
> potential romantic interest?

Again, none of the above choices would affect my decision to (or not to) date  
a person.  As long as two people can respect each other for whom they are  
(rather than who has which and how many degrees) I think they both have a  
chance to grow from the relationship.  Having (or not having) a degree says  
nothing about who you are and what your potentials are.  

> 3
>     Now, what if the person in the first scenario never finished
>     college and the person in the second has a PhD.  Which one
>     would you date?  Why?

I would most likely ask both persons out.  I would go out with the one who  
wanted to go out with me.  If both persons wanted to go out with me, I would  
date both of them, but I would be honest with both of them about the  
situation.

> Allisson

Craig
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith)
Subject: Re: WHAT DO AMERICAN MEN THINK ABOUT AMERI
Organization: Gagging Sloth Records
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:37:52 GMT

In article <riaedwards.2.721312688@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au>, riaedwards@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (AUDREY EDWARDS) writes:

|> 2. Spoke funny, compered to whom? Are you an American, by chance? Surely (in 
|> grammatical terms *only*), you mean "spoke in a funny manner". In any event, 
|> the English speak beautiful English (and I should know, for I am one! :-) )

This brings up an interesting, albeit *totally* trivial question. What do 
you English types think of American accents? Most Americans that I know think
English, Irish, etc  accents sound pretty interesting (in a good way, usually!)
but I'm curious if the reverse is true? Or do you just think American accents
are plain and boring?  Just curious...

|> Audrey.

jds

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                               * I won't shut my mouth for less.
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 01:08:00 GMT

>Hanging out in bookstores or libraries is a good sign!  :-)  I also
>tend to look for absence of bad signs such as wedding rings,
>cigarettes, alcohol, slobby appearance.  It's not 100% infallible, but
>I also consider wearing a suit and/or tie to be a bad sign (conformity).

Know what? I hate libraries and bookstores but read HUSTLER,
I smoke, drink, don't shave AND wear a torn construction vest...

And SHEEIT! I was about to ask you out. :+)

dreas

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: golovch@prim.rose.utoronto.ca (Gene Golovchinsky)
Subject: Re: girl/lady/female boy/guy/male
Organization: University of Toronto, Department of Industrial Engineering
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:29:17 GMT

Bathsheba.Grossman@launchpad.unc.edu (Bathsheba Grossman) writes:

>In article <golovch.721359135@prim.rose.utoronto.ca> golovch@prim.rose.utoronto.ca (Gene Golovchinsky) writes:

>All right, I don't disagree with this; I'm not even sure I understand it.  
>But if I am to consider myself included in "Mankind" (and I'd prefer to
>belong to "people"), you will have to accept that I can be a chairman,
>poet, author, sculptor, mailman, waiter, seaman, &ct &ct.  I hope you won't
>find that disconcerting; some people may.

No, I don't find it disconcerting; in fact, that was what I was trying to say. 
Great; we agree!

>In this vein, let it be known that any person who refers to me as a
>"sculptress" will receive a swift boot to the head. 

OK, no flame yet... so far so good!

>>Cannot resist one more thought: If people simply treated others in the
>>way they would like to be treated themselves, we as a society would not
>>need to spend so much time arguing about minority rights, offensive

>Gee, let's all just be nice.  Why didn't I think of it?  
><Flame on>
>Eat incandescent death, non-Aryan mongrel purveyor of idiocy.  How
>does it happen that you sound like a philosophy grad student one
>paragraph and a Compleat Kozmic Nitwit the next?  Could there be a
>connection? 
><Flame off>

>-Sheba

I knew it was here somewhere...

I am neither a philosophy grad student, nor a CKN. The following is bound
to generate some more flames: Philosophically, I lean toward Objectivism,
which means that I disagree less with Republicans and more with the
Democrats.  I mention this because I really have given this issue some
thought and am not the nitwit I appeared to be. 

Now, to the matter at hand:

When someone acts in an offensive manner, he is either aware that he offends,
or not.  If he was not aware of it, is told so, politely, and thereafter
decists, then there is no problem.  If he is aware, then I don't think ranting,
raving, name-calling, etc will change his mind.  Bringing the government into
this only violates the other person's rights, and two wrongs don't make
a right (pun... sigh!).

The bottom line: if the purpetrator of disrespect persists despite knowing
he (!) is being disrespectful, there isn't much you can do. Chances are,
your actions of protest may be construed as childish, etc., and that won't
increase the respect others -- not the purpetrator -- have for you. 

There, that ought to keep me busy answering flames instead of working on
my thesis.

 2
G
From: martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: KILLING a Poster rather than a Post
Date: 7 Nov 92 05:06:39 GMT
	<MARTINC.92Oct31205617@grover.cs.unc.edu>
	<1992Nov1.164254.22832@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
	<1992Nov3.061712.26223@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
	<thurlow.720993030@convex.convex.com>
Distribution: usa
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: thurlow@convex.com's message of 5 Nov 92 19:50:30 GMT

Not the first time I've noticed a use for optical isolation.
--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
Newsgroups: soc.singles,general
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: PRES DEBATE
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 20:48:19 GMT

In article <BxAC0z.Erq@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:
>huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>
>>Nevertheless, the U.S. population uses a disproportionate share of
>>the world's natural resources. 
>
>That's right; we also produce a disproportionate share of the world's wealth.

And in the process produce a disproportionate share of the world's pollution.

>After all, those resources are being used FOR something.

Yes.

-- Herb Huston
Newsgroups: soc.roots