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From: 01fortec@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Name This Movie
Date: 22 Dec 92 20:00:55 -0400
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1992Dec22.134412.2966@news2.cis.umn.edu>, donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
> In article <1992Dec21.162223.21292@telesciences.com> ciacovel@telesciences.com (Chris D Iacovelli) writes:
>>
>>I am looking for the name of a sci-fi/horror movie that I saw in the early
>>to mid '80s.  It had erin moran from happy days starring.
>>
>>The story goes:
>>
>>
>>a group of space explorers go to a dead planet. (suckers)
>>one by one each member is killed off by the thing they fear the most,
>> i.e. erin moran killed in a small area, she was claustrophobic.
>>      martial arts weapons master killed by his own weapons.
>>
>>
>>Can't really remember the rest of the plot, i.e. who survived.
>>
>>
>>ADthanksVANCE
>>Chris Iacovelli
>>ciacovel@telesciences.com
> 
> Galaxy Of Terror, under one of it's many titles. Sid Haig gets my vote for
> most memorable performance for slicing his arm open to get at a little
> glass thing that is burrowing under his skin!
> Pax
> 					--Judex--
> 


Wow! I've seen this movie. It was interesting, but I thought it had one of the
dumbest plotlines going.

Joe
From: 01fortec@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Speaking of dumb movies
Date: 22 Dec 92 20:04:11 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

And speaking of dumb movies, the dumbest I've seen was "Voyage of the Rock
Aliens", with Pia Zadora as an upgraded Annette Funicello. That's right. If
you haven't seen it, it's a mixture of old surf/musicals and B grade scifi,
and they all sing, too.

Truly schizophrenic.

Joe
From: presto@chopin.udel.edu (Jason Y Nocks)
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Re: How to handle I.T.?
Date: 28 Dec 92 19:27:09 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <1992Dec28.162013.12157@cs.wisc.edu> so@brownie.cs.wisc.edu (Bryan S. So) writes:
>In article <BzyFx6.Lty@csn.org> van@teal.csn.org (Claude W. Van Horn) writes:
>
>>I do not use much I.T. myself, but a friend of mine does, and he 
>>tells me the torpedo loader is the best way to carry it.  He
>>is rigged ALL THE TIME and is ready for a demo on demand.
>
>It sounds wonderful.  But this is really the first time I 
>heard of a torpedo loader.  Can you elaborate a bit about 
>what it is?
>

I would also be interested in any info on a torpedo loader. Is that like a
wand reel (I've seen those advertised, but haven't shelled out the dough. After
all, I AM still a college student)?
later,
-Jason
-- 
| presto@brahms.udel.edu       | A senior E.E. at the U of D with a side order
| presto@freezer.cns.udel.edu  | of stage and close-up magic. The views
| nocks@snow-white.ee.udel.edu | expressed are exclusively my own (etc).
Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: fmah@mta.ca
Subject: Re: Who was that man?
Reply-To: fmah@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:04:09 GMT

In article <BzM8Ls.5Hr@math.uwaterloo.ca>, rbutterw@math.uwaterloo.ca (Ray Butterworth [MFCF]) writes:
>The other night on a ten year old Paul Daniels TV show
>there was a very talented magician.  Unfortunately I missed
>his introduction and the closing credits.
>
>He spoke with a very heavy Spanish accent (possibly South American)
>and performed card tricks entirely with his left hand (he was
>possibly missing his right hand).  These all involved various
>shufflings and rearrangments of the positions of cards within
>a deck.   One trick in particular consisted of three black and
>three red cards that he would arrange into one order and then
>display as being in a completely different order.  He repeated
>the trick several times, each time more slowly, and each time
>exposing more of the cards as he placed them to ensure that
>everyone knew for sure which card was which.
>
>Does anyone know who this performer was?

I don't know who he was, but I was impressed.  Does anyone know how that
routine is accomplished?  If you'd like to enlighten me, I'm FMAH@mta.ca.  
Any general direction pointing would suffice.  Thanks!

A guy up north (east of Ontario),

Frank
Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: van@teal.csn.org (Claude W. Van Horn)
Subject: Re: How to handle I.T.?
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 05:43:53 GMT

so@brownie.cs.wisc.edu (Bryan S. So) writes:
: 
: Does an I.T. Reel help?  It is very expensive, so I really
: want to know it is worthwhile before I order.

I do not use much I.T. myself, but a friend of mine does, and he 
tells me the torpedo loader is the best way to carry it.  He
is rigged ALL THE TIME and is ready for a demo on demand.

says the trouble is worth it because he is asked a LOT.

Van!!
.

-- 
Claude Van Horn :  Magician, man about town, philosopher, Perot Supporter
                   Voice Mail Expert, and general good guy.
Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: hes@ncsu.edu (Henry E. Schaffer)
Subject: Penn & Teller
Originator: hes@sparcler.cc.ncsu.edu
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 03:40:37 GMT

  I just watched a 1/2 hour TV program in which P&T basically
do items from their new book (How to Play with Your Food) and
push the book.  With respect to one of their tricks they said
"It's so easy that even Copperfield could do it ..." and then
in a fast undertone added "without camera cuts."

  Later the host asked if they were worried about magicians
getting upset about their explaining magic in their book, and
the reply was along the lines of, "So they get upset, what can
they do - they're a bunch of magicians.  Now if the Hell's 
Angels got upset about something in the book, we'd take it out
right away."

--henry schaffer
Newsgroups: alt.magic,houston.general
From: geoff@pmafire.inel.gov (Geoff Allen)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 20:22:00 GMT
Organization: WINCO
Subject: Houston magic shops and shows?
Followup-To: poster
Reply-To: geoff@pauling.inel.gov
Distribution: usa
Organization: WINCO
Keywords: 


I'm going to be in Houston soon (which is why I'm crossposting to
houston.general, which we actually get here in Idaho!), and was
wondering if anyone knew of any places to catch magic live. 

Also, if there's more than one magic shop in town (dunno), does anyone
have any recommendations?

Thanks,

Geoff

--
Geoff Allen          \  What's the difference between a garden slug and
uunet!pmafire!geoff   \   a two-inch long, living booger?
geoff@pauling.inel.gov \                    -- Calvin
Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: presto@chopin.udel.edu (Jason Y Nocks)
Subject: Re: magic and religion
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:37:49 GMT

Just catching up on the group after finals and semester-long projects. You may
or may not be familiar with Andre Kole, but he often performs what I guess is
called "Gospel Magic". I saw him last year, and he did a segment with a light-
bulb that was supposed to represent Jesus. He went through some patter about
death and re-birth,etc. I am not too familiar with the story, being Jewish and
all. His magic was pretty good. Some of his illusions were quite excellent.
Apparently he is one of the guys that worked on the statue of liberty effect
that was done by DC. I would recommend doing some research on Kole in regards
to performing magic with messages.
Hope this info is helpful.
-Jason
-- 
| presto@brahms.udel.edu       | A senior E.E. at the U of D with a side order
| presto@freezer.cns.udel.edu  | of stage and close-up magic. The views
| nocks@snow-white.ee.udel.edu | expressed are exclusively my own (etc).
From: jti01@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Jeff Isozaki)
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Re: Who was that man?
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:40:10 GMT
Reply-To: jti01@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Jeff Isozaki)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <BzM8Ls.5Hr@math.uwaterloo.ca> rbutterw@math.uwaterloo.ca (Ray Butterworth [MFCF]) writes:
>The other night on a ten year old Paul Daniels TV show there was a very
>talented magician. Unfortunately I missed his introduction and the
>closing credits.
>
>He spoke with a very heavy Spanish accent (possibly South American) and
>performed card tricks entirely with his left hand (he was possibly missing
>his right hand). These all involved various shufflings and rearrangments
>of the positions of cards within a deck. One trick in particular consisted
>of three black and three red cards that he would arrange into one order
>and then display as being in a completely different order. He repeated the
>trick several times, each time more slowly, and each time exposing more
>of the cards as he placed them to ensure that everyone knew for sure which
>card was which.
>
>Does anyone know who this performer was?

 His name is Rene' Lavand from somewhere in South America (Argentina,
 I think). He performed and lectured at Steven's Desert Magic Seminar
 last year and was superb. He is also scheduled to perform at a couple
 of conventions in 1993 but I don't remember which ones (either SAM, IBM,
 Hank Lee's or NYCAN).

 He has only one hand (I don't remember when or how he lost the other).
 The routine (red and black cards) is explained in his book and video
 called, "Slow Motion Magic". The routine that I saw him perform last
 year was very charming and funny. He would mix up the cards and then
 one-by-one, show how the cards re-arranged themselves into red and white.
 He would explain that he couldn't do it any slower but he would try
 and then in a slower pace/rythmn, he would still mystify the audience.

 He also performed a shell game effect using a tea cup and 3 peas.
 The story he used for patter was the most touching and beautiful story
 that I've heard done with magic. Briefly, he explained how he was one
 of three good friends (the sun, the moon and he). And they always did
 things together, and no matter how they separated, they always remained
 together. The story was so touching, he had many of the women in the
 audience in tears (most of the men were magicians and were too busy
 trying to remember the routine to get emotional about it).

 I would strongly recommend seeing him live. When I saw him, Tina Lennart
 did the translations. She did a wonderful job and you could see the
 love and respect she had for Lavand. When he performed the shell routine,
 she was not able to translate because of the tears.
From: so@brownie.cs.wisc.edu (Bryan S. So)
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: How to handle I.T.?
Date: 25 Dec 92 18:25:14 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.

Just got my floating dollar bill trick from a mail order
co.  This is the first time I try to handle an I.T.  It
is soooo very difficult to handle.  Can't even find a good 
way to carry it from place to place.

Does an I.T. Reel help?  It is very expensive, so I really
want to know it is worthwhile before I order.


Bryan
From: pbaker@tbag.tscs.com (Pete Baker)
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: A Word on Magic Stores
Date: 22 Dec 92 07:12:18 EST
Organization: Tampa Bay Amiga Group

Magic stores, have gotten the reputation of being akin to the kitchen at a
 party.  By that I mean that whenever you throw a party most folks congregate
 in the cramped little kitchen because they feel comfortable in there.  It is
 easier to chat and build friendships in the kitchen.  In the same manner,
 many magic shops are a place to gather and show off the latest finger
 flicking or review the latest adverts in the Linking Ring.  Unfortunately,
 like kitchens, most magic shops are small cramped places without a lot of
 room to congregate. 

I mention this because I have read about so-n-so's magic shop and how the
 owners were rude or ignored you..  They refused to sit and visit.  By gosh,
 they virtually ran their shop like a business!

Folks, keep in mind that when you are the proprietor of a magic shop... You
 love magic, but, you also still need to place food on the table!  I have seen
 shops with the regulars that come in and BS the day away and spend not 1
 dime. and I have seen shops where the owner will demo a couple effects at
 your request and then disappear behind the curtain after your purchase to
 work on some mail order stuff (leaving you thinking he went to bed back
 there).

When you go into a magic shop have an idea of what you want.  If you are
 unsure tell the owner what your experience level is and in what circumstances
 you wish to perform the effect. and what results you want to happen.  If you
 have 20 packet tricks at home gathering dust, dont buy another one! 
 Routining is what seperates a magician from a trickster. So tell the shopkeep
 what you are going to do before and after the new effect and see if they have
 any ideas on continuity for the transition.  Just don't expect this guy to
 spend all day showing you everything on the wall and in the case.. He doesn't
 need the practice and on average, folks that make him demo every little thing
 spend about $5.

--- Via UCI v1.02 (C-Net Amiga)

            _
Pete Baker { }
          ( V-) -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
pbaker@tbag <or was it> tbag!pbaker@uunet.uu.net <maybe> pbaker@tbag.tscs.com
============================================================================= 
Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: presto@bach.udel.edu (Jason Y Nocks)
Subject: Re: How to handle I.T.?
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 05:14:39 GMT

In article <Dec26.022903.49983@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> knepley@CS.ColoState.EDU (Ranseus (Jim Knepley)) writes:
>In article <1992Dec25.182514.27725@cs.wisc.edu> so@brownie.cs.wisc.edu (Bryan S. So) writes:
>>Just got my floating dollar bill trick from a mail order
>>co.  This is the first time I try to handle an I.T.  It
>>is soooo very difficult to handle.  Can't even find a good 
>>way to carry it from place to place.
>>
>>Does an I.T. Reel help?  It is very expensive, so I really
>>want to know it is worthwhile before I order.
>
>If you get an I.T. reel, be sure it's the type that will go both ways, the
>kind that only go out aren't worth the money, IMHO.  How much are you looking
>to pay?  There's a local shop that has reels for $40 that come with "the stuff"
>and work exceptionally well.  EMail me for more info.
>

Or, instead of using I.T., you could try a gimmick that CSI (Jay Scott Berry)
sells for $9.95. ($14.95 with a companion booklet for routine suggestions) I
owned one and thought it was great. Like many of my personal favorite gimmicks,
it seems to have disappeared with no help from me. CSI's address, as far as I
know, is:
6040 Verner Avenue
Sacramento, CA 95841
P&H is $3.00 for orders up to $20; $4.00 up to $50.00; and 10% over %50.00.
I am in no way connected with CSI or Jay Scott Berry and assume that it isn't
a problem to post this info (Maybe CSI could be added to the list - I think
there's a list of businesses in the fact ?? - they sell a lot of Sword &
Sorcery genre magic).
	Anyway, for floating a bill under most circumstances, this gimmick is
pretty cool. It can't stray too far from one of your hands, though (wink, wink,
nudge, nudge, no what I mean?).

later,
-Jason
-- 
| presto@brahms.udel.edu       | A senior E.E. at the U of D with a side order
| presto@freezer.cns.udel.edu  | of stage and close-up magic. The views
| nocks@snow-white.ee.udel.edu | expressed are exclusively my own (etc).
Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: sammy@world.std.com (Samuel Murphy)
Subject: Re: Gimmick problems
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 05:12:59 GMT


A partial defense of gimicks, not having the right tools I once
made many worthless (ahhem) thumb-writers, frustrating myself totaly!
But as the previous posts pointed out first I spent time with some
excelent books and knew what I wanted.

I also found that the more expensive versions were not the best
in every case.

Sam Murphy
sammy@world.std.com



Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: garyb@hprnd.rose.hp.com (Gary Berard)
Subject: Who was that man?
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:18:54 GMT
Organization: HP - Systems Technology Division
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

The man was Rene Lavand.  He is from South America and does only have one
hand.  He lost his right hand in an accident when he was eight years old.
He has a book out  and I believe that Joe Stevens has made a video of his
work.

I had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Lavand and watching him work at last
year's Desert Seminar in Las Vegas.  His performance was one of the most
moving magical performances that I have ever witnessed.  The man is truly an
artist.

Regards,
Gary Berard
From: grego@netcom.com (greg huff)
Subject: Re: Penn & Teller
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 09:05:54 GMT


Just got How To Play With Your Food for Christmas.  If any magicians
get upset they are very silly, you can find all the same information
at the local library!  The fortunes and phoney labels are worth
the price of the book.  What people should be harping on is the
recall on the NON TEAR sugar packets.  Just call the 800 number
and ask for the new "SUGAR" and they'll mail it out FREE!
By the way anyone catch Penn & Tellers 900 gallons of Champage
"trick" on New Year's?  Magicians should be more upset with
the lack of magic on the television then anyone doing anything
magic related on the tube!
Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: mike@vpnet.chi.il.us (michael kamlet)
Subject: Re: How to handle I.T.?
Organization: Vpnet - Free Usenet access
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 14:38:59 GMT

In article <BzyEKF.EEo@news.udel.edu> presto@bach.udel.edu (Jason Y Nocks) writes:
>In article <Dec26.022903.49983@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> knepley@CS.ColoState.EDU (Ranseus (Jim Knepley)) writes:
>
>Or, instead of using I.T., you could try a gimmick that CSI (Jay Scott Berry)
>sells for $9.95. ($14.95 with a companion booklet for routine suggestions) I
>owned one and thought it was great. Like many of my personal favorite gimmicks,
>it seems to have disappeared with no help from me. CSI's address, as far as I
>know, is:
>6040 Verner Avenue
>Sacramento, CA 95841
>P&H is $3.00 for orders up to $20; $4.00 up to $50.00; and 10% over %50.00.
>I am in no way connected with CSI or Jay Scott Berry and assume that it isn't
>a problem to post this info (Maybe CSI could be added to the list - I think
>there's a list of businesses in the fact ?? - they sell a lot of Sword &
>Sorcery genre magic).
>	Anyway, for floating a bill under most circumstances, this gimmick is
>pretty cool. It can't stray too far from one of your hands, though (wink, wink,
>nudge, nudge, no what I mean?).
>
I assume you're talking about his Genesis device -- I bought one - and never
had much luck with it -- I haven't played with it too much -- but I really
like the flame bit he does with the dollar bill.

Mike Kamlet
mike@vpnet.chi.il.us


Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: knepley@CS.ColoState.EDU (Ranseus (Jim Knepley))
Subject: Magic stuff for sale
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 04:04:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Colorado State University

I'm cleaning out some stuff I don't use and thought I'd give all of you
a crack at it...

John Bannon's _Smoke and Mirrors_:  John's newest book.  Deals mostly with
	cards.  $30
_The Topit Book_: The definitional book on topit use and fabrication.   You
	should at least be familiar with these techniques, even though you
	may not wish to use them (depends on the performer).  $40
U.F.O. : Sold by Chazpro as the ultimate (?) floating effect.  Very clean,
	very pretty, very hard to do well.  Uses PK gimic (included).  $15
Cups & Balls: Never used.  Copper cups, typical C&B balls.  No instructions
	came with them, so you'll need to reference other books.  $20
Bloody Good Point: Bizzare mentalism from the king of Bizzare mentalism
	Joe Givan (second only to Eugene Burger?  maybe).  Must be seen
	to be believed, strong impact.  I love this effect, but it's really
	not my style.  This appeared in Genii a while back as well.  $15
Silk to egg:  Never used.  I was going to do the Ammar routine (excellent
	routine, BTW) but never got around to it.  Sells new for $10, asking $8
Mental Photography: Highly visual gaffed card routine.  Easy to do.  "Print"
	the image of a card on a previously blank pasteboard.  Good opening 
	effect.  $5

All items are in excellent condition.  Prices negotiable.  Buyer pays shipping.
Specific questions should be directed to me via EMail.  Instructions included
for everything except the books (duh!) and cups & balls.

Happy magic,
  Jim

-- 
----- knepley@cs.colostate.edu --------------- Boycott Colorado -------------
 Jim "Ranseus" Knepley |  Avoid rectal-cranial inversion. 
 Programmer, magician, |  "Gun's don't kill, it's those bullet things"   
 computer geek.        |
From: mohit@eos.ncsu.edu (mohit bhatnagar)
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: info for an excited new comer
Date: 29 Dec 92 06:15:24 GMT
Reply-To: mohit@eos.ncsu.edu (mohit bhatnagar)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Originator: mohit@vayu.psrc.ncsu.edu


ho! ho! so i got my best x-mas gift(albeit late). i have found a perfect
companion for all my magic books and props and tapes - a newsgroup!!  in
retrospect i wunder why have i been trying only rec.magic???

could someone please tell me  if for this newsgroup there is a 

**	FAQ
**	any help-files at a FTP site
**	list of books and tapes on various subjects
**	list of addresses and dates for magic conventions
**	or any other info/protocol that might be of help

**	is there any other newsgroup that deals with magic?

please e-mail (and please don't assume that someone else will!!).  

Thanx for all the info in advance

mohit
 
  
 
Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: knepley@CS.ColoState.EDU (Ranseus (Jim Knepley))
Subject: Re: How to handle I.T.?
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 02:29:03 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University

In article <1992Dec25.182514.27725@cs.wisc.edu> so@brownie.cs.wisc.edu (Bryan S. So) writes:
>Just got my floating dollar bill trick from a mail order
>co.  This is the first time I try to handle an I.T.  It
>is soooo very difficult to handle.  Can't even find a good 
>way to carry it from place to place.
>
>Does an I.T. Reel help?  It is very expensive, so I really
>want to know it is worthwhile before I order.

If you get an I.T. reel, be sure it's the type that will go both ways, the
kind that only go out aren't worth the money, IMHO.  How much are you looking
to pay?  There's a local shop that has reels for $40 that come with "the stuff"
and work exceptionally well.  EMail me for more info.

Until you get a reel, try draping it over your shoulder, it'll be out of the
way and easily accesable.  I personally put it on my top shirt button and
on an object (such as a pen) in my shirt pocket.

Good luck,
  Jim
-- 
----- knepley@cs.colostate.edu --------------- Boycott Colorado -------------
 Jim "Ranseus" Knepley |  Avoid rectal-cranial inversion. 
 Programmer, magician, |  "Gun's don't kill, it's those bullet things"   
 computer geek.        |  
Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: so@brownie.cs.wisc.edu (Bryan S. So)
Subject: Re: How to handle I.T.?
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 16:20:13 GMT

In article <BzyFx6.Lty@csn.org> van@teal.csn.org (Claude W. Van Horn) writes:

>I do not use much I.T. myself, but a friend of mine does, and he 
>tells me the torpedo loader is the best way to carry it.  He
>is rigged ALL THE TIME and is ready for a demo on demand.

It sounds wonderful.  But this is really the first time I 
heard of a torpedo loader.  Can you elaborate a bit about 
what it is?

THANKS.

Bryan