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From: geffy@access.digex.com (Geff King)
Subject: Re: Same person?
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Distribution: Does this thing REALLY post to the "civilized" world?
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 15:50:22 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.235813.6258@eos.arc.nasa.gov> shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum) writes:
>
>Are Billy Ray Cyrus and Crush from the WWF the same person?
>Never seen them together!
>

And while we're on the subject - what ever happened to John Cowan of the
New Grass Revival? Is is just a coincidence that 1) Billy Ray Cyrus' 
producer is the same guy that used to produce NGR; and 2) NGR broke up within
less than a year of Billy Ray's 'discovery'; and 3) never seen the two of 
*them* together either.....?

So what gives here? Inquiring minds want to know....:-)

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From: millia@athena.cs.uga.edu (David W. Millians)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Anybody heard of a singer named "Ivory Jack?"
Date: 7 Sep 92 06:44:53 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens


Well, has anybody? He's here in Athens and I was curious if anybody
-- 
normally, mild-mannered David W. (Stimpy) Millians, millia@athena.cs.uga.edu 
but now, "Yes, dear"-Man. Able to fix sinks, move boxes and write thank you
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: rosesha@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Sharon E Rose)
Subject: Reviews--Reba, Travis Tritt, and more
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 00:14:23 GMT


This year the New York State Fair was fortunate enough to book a
number of very popular country acts to perform.  I attended all of
them and thought you all might be interested in a few comments.

Aug 29-- Vince Gill and Reba McEntire

Vince Gill's opening of about 6 songs was enjoyable, but he was not
the best at working the audience.  He stayed in basically one place
on the stage and sang his popular songs.  I saw him earlier this year
at the Jamboree in the Hills and he was much more lively there.

Then....a monsoon hit.  I have never seen it rain so hard even in
Syracuse, NY.  People ran for cover for an hour and a half and waited
for an update about Reba.  Finally she came out, and sat it a little
make-shift tent on the stage.  She was unable to use ANY of her band
or equipment, so she sang a-capella.  She only did 4 songs (3 from her
latest album and one older) and she was wonderful.  I was absolutely
thrilled that she came out in the pouring rain to sing in front of
10,000 people with only the help of a microphone.  IMHO the $19 for 
the ticket was well worth it, though a lot of people in the Syracuse
area are complaining about being ripped off.  I had a once in a lifetime
experience in that I saw a very talented country singer performing all
by herself.  I really respct Reba for that.

Sept 2--Martina McBride and Garth Brooks

Opening act Martina McBride was okay (I won't elaborate because she
is not my favorite singer) but the audience was on edge that whole
time waiting for Garth.  This is the second time I have seen him, and
he is a wonderful performer.  Even those of you who complain about his
lack of traditional country style would enjoy watching him in concert.
He really knows how to work a crowd (sold out 16,000 here).  My one
complaint is that he spent much of his 1-1/2 hour concert collecting
the flowers that people were handing him and throwing to the stage.  I
would have preferred him to ignore them or just take a few, and continue
with his act.

Sept 3--Country Jam--Marty Stewart, Tanya Tucker, Travis Tritt, and
			The Charlie Daniels Band

The performers went in just that order, and I enjoyed all of them.  Tanya
Tucker is a very talented singer, and Travis Tritt had a great time
performing (including dumping a can of beer all over himself).  My only
disappointment here was that Marty Stuart had to hit the road immediately
after his performance, so he and Travis Tritt didn't sing anything
together.  I was surprised, considering their No Hats Tour just ended.
The Charlie Daniels Band seemed good, but unfortunately I had to leave
after only 3 songs.  (Didn't even see "The Devil Went Down To Georgia" :(   )


Well, that's all folks.  Have a good day.
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From: jalapeno@leland.Stanford.EDU (J. Bradley Materick)
Subject: In search of U2 Zoo Station promo disc (Please Help!)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 20:56:55 GMT

Hello All!

Forgive me if this post seems out of place, but I am posting this message to
many different newsgroups in hopes of a positive response.

I am looking fo a rare U2 single, a DJ/collectors white vinyl 12" single of
Zoo Station.  The single contains 3 songs:

			Zoo Station
			Lady with the Spinning Head
			Zoo Station (UV1 remix)

If you have this single, know someone who has it, or have seen the single
anywhere (I think it was released only in the U.K.), PLEASE respond to me
personally via e-mail (as I probably do not regularly read this newsgroup)
at the following address:

			jalapeno@leland.stanford.edu

ANY information on the whereabouts of this single, no matter how insignificant
it may seem, will be GREATLY appreciated.

Taanx in advance,
Jalapeno

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From: malman@bbn.com (Joel Malman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Kathy Mattea
Keywords: country western music
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:54:39 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com




> Jim Moody       jmoody@netcom.com says...
> I saw Kathy Mattea in concert at the Circle Star in Redwood City last night.
...
> Well for all you Mattea fans out there...rest easy.  She sang better
> than ever, including some material from a new CD due out in October, and
...

Quite true. I saw her in concert in Westbury (Long Island, N.Y.) Aug 23 and
she was quite wonderful. The show included many songs due in the Oct release
as well as many old favs, including Harley, From a Distance, and others from
"Time Passes By". BTW, the first act was the Dirt Band, which I thought was
somewhat less than wonderful.

/joel

malman@bbn.com
From: billd@informix.com (William Daul)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Kathy Mattea
Keywords: country western music
Date: 9 Sep 92 00:11:45 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In <nyrn0tq.jmoody@netcom.com> jmoody@netcom.com (Jim Moody) writes:

>I saw Kathy Mattea in concert at the Circle Star in Redwood City last
>night.  She is back from laser surgery for a vocal problem and so,
>being a big time fan of her big beautiful voice, I had some trepidation
>when I went to hear her.  Maybe she'd be easing off, maybe have lost 
>something.

>Well for all you Mattea fans out there...rest easy.  She sang better 
>than ever, including some material from a new CD due out in October, and
>gave a zesty, good-natured, high-spirited concert that made me laugh and made
>me cry and everything in between.

>If you get a chance to hear her on this tour, do it.  


>-- 
>Jim Moody	jmoody@netcom.com	(415) 978-3289
>===================================================================


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From: geffy@access.digex.com (Geff King)
Subject: Re: Jimmy Buffett concert review
Keywords: Unaussprechlichen
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Distribution: Costing the net hundreds if not thousands of dollars
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:24:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.105358.15951@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bh419@cleveland.
Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel) writes:
>
>Don't trust musicians who have lines of clothings endorsed under
>their imprimature. (Unless y'all buy some Speck Rose overhauls 
>and some Jimmy Day boxer shorts). (;-)
>-- 
How about kd lang cologne? Or John Duffey hair care products?

>Ted....

geff(y@access.digex.com)
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Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: jmoody@netcom.com (Jim Moody)
Subject: Kathy Mattea
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 19:09:12 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Summary: Kathy Matteas concert
Keywords: country western music

I saw Kathy Mattea in concert at the Circle Star in Redwood City last
night.  She is back from laser surgery for a vocal problem and so,
being a big time fan of her big beautiful voice, I had some trepidation
when I went to hear her.  Maybe she'd be easing off, maybe have lost 
something.

Well for all you Mattea fans out there...rest easy.  She sang better 
than ever, including some material from a new CD due out in October, and
gave a zesty, good-natured, high-spirited concert that made me laugh and made
me cry and everything in between.

If you get a chance to hear her on this tour, do it.  


-- 
Jim Moody	jmoody@netcom.com	(415) 978-3289
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         "nor is it bought by going to amazing places"*
                                                          Rumi
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From: barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: A few of _my_ favorites
Date: 16 Sep 92 01:17:27 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

Anybody out there _really_ like:
  Billy Dean?
  Aarron Tippin (I mean "I Wonder Just How Far...", "You've Got To
Stand for Something", etc.,  NOT "There Ain't Nothing Wrong..."
  OR
  Restless Heart?

E-Mail and intelligent comments welcome.  Flames will be returned.

                                         -Drizzt
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: wes@ice.stx.com (John Shepherd)
Subject: Songwriter Info Needed - URGENTLY!
Reply-To: wes@ice.stx.com
Organization: Hughes STX, Lanham, MD
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:21:38 GMT

I need to know who wrote the following songs (both old and obscure):

  "Straight A's in Love" recorded by Johnny Cash.
  
and 

  "Sparklin' Brown Eyes" recorded by Wanda Jackson.



We've recorded these, and are putting them out on a CD (D.C. Jamboree).
We need the names to include them on the cover and we're getting close
to the release date. Please hurry if you know. E-mail to:

  wes@ice.stx.com
      ^^^
or

  wes@ian.stx.com
      ^^^            

Thank you much.
- John
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Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: grumpy@jpradley.jpr.com (Jeff Markel)
Subject: Re: song title
Reply-To: grumpy@jpradley.UUCP (Jeff Markel)
Organization: Unix in NYC
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:22:16 GMT

In article <199209021953.AA04461@tuna.wang.com> YVONNE.ZEMOTEL@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Yvonne Zemotel") writes:
>I just heard a song on our local country station that I thought was really
>lovely.  Of course they didn't give the title or artists.  It sounded like
>a male/female duet and one of the lines was something like:
>         Too much to hope for but not too much to ask.
>
>Help please.
>
>
>
>

Mary Chapin Carpenter & Joe Diffie -
	 title (I might be off on this) "Too Much To Ask"
	on MCC's latest album.

                        Jeff Markel

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Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell)
Subject: Re: "Watch Me" and "Chipmunks" release dates ?
Organization: Bush in 92 ? NOT!
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:48:13 GMT

tom@sparky.imd.sterling.com (Tom Theel) writes:
: In article <1992Sep6.234658.5599@news.ysu.edu> doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell) writes:
: >I've heard two songs that are getting air-time and bar play in NE Ohio,
: >and the music store didn't have release dates - any ideas ?  They are:
: >
: >"Watch Me" - Lorrie Morgan (nice video, incidentally)
: >
: 
: Lorrie Morgan said on "Crook & Chase" that the release date would be Oct 9
: 

And for those interested in the other one ("Chipmunks in Low Places"),
a record store in a different city said 9/29.  
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From: dkozak@cray.com (Darryn Kozak)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Minneapolis/St. Paul Fair
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:59:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: rhea.DKOZAK.92Sep4155936
Organization: /home/dione2/dkozak/.organization
In-reply-to: morgan@nd.edu's message of 1 Sep 92 19:27:07 GMT


In article <morgan.3.0@nd.edu> morgan@nd.edu (Lori J. Morgan) writes:

   In article <morgan.2.0@nd.edu> morgan@nd.edu (Lori J. Morgan) writes:
   >From: morgan@nd.edu (Lori J. Morgan)
   >Subject: Minneapolis/St. Paul Fair
   >Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:19:34 GMT

   >Have any of you ever been to this particular fair???  I am flying from 
   Indiana to attend...word has it that it is one of the biggest and best fairs 
   for country music fans???  Would be interested in hearing anything you have 
   to offer!!!

   Some of the acts that will be performing are:
	Wynona
	The Oak Ridge Boys
	Chris LeDoux
	Darryl & Don Ellis

   Besides the fair, I can't wait to see this shopping mall with the amusement 
   park inside...it must be absolutely fabulous!!!

   Thank you in advance for your input!!!!!



Off the top of my head I also remember Garth Brooks, McBride & the
Ride, and Riders in the Sky.  I know there are others too, but don't
have the list handy.

The mall is big!  It's ugly from the outside, ok on the inside, and
did I mention big!  They don't have a decent book or store though.

By the way, the Gatlin Bro' have a club at the Mega-Mall.  In the last
month I recall Marie Osmond and Ronnie Milsap appearing there.  Others
too, but again I don't have the schedule in front of me.


dk


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From: tbromley@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Thomas Bromley)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Want help identifying/locating song
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:55:54 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

Can anyone provide information about a song I have heard performed by 
George Jones (on Austin City Limits) and by the Geezinslaw Brothers (on 
Texas Connection)?

The song is about a man whose wife or girlfriend has left him, and he is 
drinking from whiskey from an Elvis Presley decanter out of a Fred 
Flintstone jelly glass.
The chorus includes the line "Yabba Dabba Doo, the king is gone, and so 
are you."

What I'm wondering is: 1) who wrote/originated the song -- Jones, the 
Geezinslaws, or someone else?
  2)  What is the title, and what album(s) can it be found on? (Either 
artist)

Thanks in advance

Tom
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: M15841@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: Garth Brooks
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:40:12 GMT

This may be a hopeless request, but I have to ask anyway.
 
Does anyone have 1 or 2 tickets to the Garth Brooks concert at the
Capital Centre (Lanham, Maryland)?  I would be willing to take them
off your hands . . . if the price is right!
 
Mary Brick
e-mail:  m15841@mitre.org
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: morgan@nd.edu (Lori J. Morgan)
Subject: Billy Ray Cyrus
Keywords: Fan Club
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Dept. of Human Resources
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:39:56 GMT

I would like to find out who the opening act is for the BRC show on 
Thursday, November 5 at the J.A.C.C. at the University of Notre Dame.  I 
figured the best way to find this information out was to call the "fan 
club".  If anyone has any information it would be very much appreciated.  
Thank you in advance!!!  

Feel free to either post or E-Mail replys!!
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From: hart@arch.uwa.oz.au (Colin 't Hart)
Newsgroups: rec.music.early,rec.music.classical
Subject: Organ mailing list set up !
Date: 15 Sep 1992 07:03:44 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
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Summary: Organ mailing list at hart@mullet.gu.uwa.edu.au
Keywords: organ mailing list

Hello all ye organ lovers ...

An organ mailing list has been set up. I propose to run it as a
moderated list, i.e.: in digest format. For this reason, please send all
articles to me in a format that would apply to a magazine, e.g.:
letters, articles, CD-reviews, etc.

If someone wants to design a `cover' for the digest please feel free to
do so. Also suggestions are welcome. Perhaps discussion type material
could go to the unmoderated list(?), etc.

Oh yes, the address:

Send all material to: hart@mullet.gu.uwa.edu.au
with subject: For inclusion in organ.list (or similar subject).

If this address bounces, send to: hart@arch.uwa.edu.au


To be included on the mailing list, mail me at either of the above
addresses.


Looking forward to lots of input!

Colin 't Hart
hart@mullet.gu.uwa.edu.au

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From: sommerfeld@apollo.hp.com (Bill Sommerfeld)
Subject: "duodecimi toni"?
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:53:26 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard

This is something of a novice question..

I have a recording by the Taverner Consort of a number of works of
Gabrielli.  One of them is titled "Canzon in echo duodecimi toni (a
10)".  It's obviously a ten-part echo canzon, but what the "duodecimi
toni" refer to?  (I keep wanting to read it as "twelve tone", but the
music is about 350 years too early for that.  :-) ).

The program notes of another CD I have (which, coincidentally enough,
contains another recording of the same work on modern instruments by
the Empire Brass and friends..) equates the "toni" to church modes,
and gives an example of "septimi toni" == Mixolydian (sp?).

What's the complete list, and how do the numbers relate to anything
concrete?

Thanks in advance.
From: alves@calvin.usc.edu (William Alves)
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: Re: "duodecimi toni"?
Date: 11 Sep 1992 12:54:31 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: calvin.usc.edu

In article <1992Sep11.182330.17529@ccu.umanitoba.ca> sbloch@silver.cs.umanitoba.ca (Stephen Bloch) writes:
>sommerfeld@apollo.hp.com (Bill Sommerfeld) writes:
>>I have a recording by the Taverner Consort of a number of works of
>>Gabrielli.  One of them is titled "Canzon in echo duodecimi toni (a
>>10)".  It's obviously a ten-part echo canzon, but what the "duodecimi
>>toni" refer to?

>>The program notes of another CD ... equates the "toni" to church modes,
>>and gives an example of "septimi toni" == Mixolydian (sp?).

>>What's the complete list, and how do the numbers relate to anything
>>concrete?

>I believe the usual list of Church modes is
>
>1 Dorian                           2 Hypodorian
>3 Phrygian                         4 Hypophrygian
>5 Lydian                           6 Hypolydian
>7 Mixolydian                       8 Hypomixolydian

>I'm not acquainted with any traditional Church modes beyond 8, but if one
>extrapolated the same pattern one would get
>
>9 Aeolian                         10 Hypoaeolian
>11 Locrian                        12 Hypolocrian
>13 Ionian                         14 Hypoionian

The person who first extrapolated the old modal system was Glarean in
the first half of the 16th century. However, neither he nor any other
writers of the time recognized the Locrian scale, at least in its
modern usage. I believe that the Locrian scale (B to B on white notes)
is a 20th century invention.

Therefore, you're right except that your table should read:

>9 Aeolian                         10 Hypoaeolian
>11 Ionian                         12 Hypoionian

Thus the "duodecimi toni" is the hypoionian mode. The real question is
the very messy business of trying to reconcile the old modal nomencla-
ture with polyphonic music that is, in practical terms, already more or
less major or minor. Gabrieli, I think, used the 11th mode to refer to
what we would call F major and the 12th mode to refer to C major. The
reasoning, I suppose, was that if a voice had a range of roughly F to F,
then the vocal part would have a final on the lowest or top note in the
range in F major (thus an authentic mode) and in the middle of the range
in C major (thus a plagal mode). Of course the voice ranges varied as
did their final pitches, and from this messy attempt at reconciling these
theories arose a great debate in the 16th century - are polyphonic pieces
really in one mode or a mixture of modes?

Bill Alves
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From: rsd@sei.cmu.edu (Richard S D'Ippolito)
Subject: Re: madrigal (?) source
Organization: The Software Engineering Institute
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:02:59 GMT


In article <1992Sep7.150753.12367@timessqr.gc.cuny.edu>, Robert Braham writes:
|> 
|> >In article <1992Aug28.150355.11602@sei.cmu.edu>, Richard D'Ippolito writes:
|> >
|> >Sorry, I can't help with the above, but "Tant que vivray" has different
|> >meter and words.
|> >
|> >Rich
|> 
|> Response a) What a faux pas!
|> Response b) "Different meter?  Different words?  Tush-tush!  It's
|> well known that the processes of transmission and attribution were
|> complex in the Renaissance . . . Taking the ideas of Atlas, Boorman,
|> and Bent, we can see that it is possible to posit the notion that
|> 'tant que je vivre' may be related to Sermisy's work (and conceivably
|> 'Baci soave' and 'Verklaerte Nacht' . . . ." [AKA Cover-your-ass response]
|> 
|> Robert Braham

Uh, what's up here, Robert? -- What info are you seeking?

a) is proof by assertion and b) is proof by invoking the divine!   Anywho, if
you have access to that material, you also have access to the Opera Omnia
editions.  Let us know what you find.

What I did off was run through the song in my head and decided that ten or so
additional syllables in "...je vivre" was too much to account for.

Rich


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   reproduction of art, and that the invocation of science, while a neat
   parlour trick, is often unnecessary, flawed, and unreasonable."
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