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From: sassan@locus.com (Sassan Behzadi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Seyyed
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:39:03 GMT
Organization: Locus Computing Corp, Los Angeles

In article <10NOV199209182802@rosie.uh.edu> cosc186y@rosie.uh.edu (92F06787) writes:

> To all you goddam, western loving, feminist, exiles out their, Kiss
>my ass! Seyyed is brave enough to stand up to all of you, even though
>he is out numbered. I glad that Seyyed is here to express the views 
>most Iranians have.
>
>ShAYton. 
>(The Devil.)
>


Dear Mr./Ms. 'shAYton',

We regret to inform you that the above phrase cannot be copyrighted
due to its length. However we have substituted the phrase: 

	"I'm an idiot - and I know it"  

in its place. You may use this phrase instead of your regular signature 
in all your future correspodence.

Sincerely yours,

Sassan Behzadi
Copyright Office - SCI Division


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: hrostami@dhvx20.csudh.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Women in Iran
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:06:46 GMT
Organization: CSU, DOMINGUEZ HILLS

In article <1992Nov9.095756.203232@uctvax.uct.ac.za>, snggab01@uctvax.uct.ac.za writes:
>> In article <1992Nov6.192738.6666@athena.mit.edu> lking@athena.mit.edu (Loren King) writes:
>> 
>>> stuff deleted
>>>Loren King
>>>MIT
>> 
>> Seyyed.
> Dear Loren,I am a non-Muslim European who has come to admire the Islamic
> republic of Iran for 
> 1)The fact that a woman can walk the streets there without a fear of being
>   raped

    Sure, They (Gov't Officials) only rape virgins before they hang them.
    Because, according to Islamic Laws, a virgin cannot be executed. How's
    that for upholding justice?

> 2) The fact that minorities ARE REPRESENTED in the Iranian parliament

     If you take into account the ratio of the minorities, you'll find that
     they are under represented.

> 3) Alcohol is banned there.No alcohol,no alcoholism.It's that simple!

     Alcohol is as popular and in demand as ever.  It's probabely one of
     the most favorite pass times of all.  You just have to know where to
     look for it.  All major brands (western brands) are available in 
     addition to home made versions.

> 4) The general atmosphere there is absent of the pervasive Western materialism
>    of societies such as America.
> 5) The poor are cared for by the charitable institution of Zakaat.What have Bush
>    and Reagan done for the masses of poor in America.

     Money still talks.  The rich are richer and the poor poorer.  With
     the sky-rocketing rate of inflation,  the majority cannot afford all
     the materilistic aspects of life, not that they don't want it.

> 6) Criminals such as drug dealers are promptly dealt with there.No Pablo
>    Escobar situations.

     Without a fair trial and right to an attorny.  Drugs are still a 
     major issue and becuase of lack of things to do, many young people
     are drawn to it.  
> 
> Long live the Islamic Republic ! Death to Yankee Imperialism !
> 
> -- 
> ----------------------------------------------
> University of Cape Town, South Africa 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
  If you like it so much, and since you live in one the most racist 
  countries in the world,  why wont you go to Iran and try living there
  for a while?  I am sure you'll have a lot of stories to tell.
From: scemg@thor.cf.ac.uk ("M.G")
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Ms King Is this your real name
Date: 12 Nov 92 12:50:47 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff, Cardiff, Wales, UK
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From: COSC186Y@EDU.UH.Jetson
Subject: Re: Ms King Is this your real name???
To: scemg@uk.ac.cardiff.thor
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In article <19154.9211111335@thor.cf.ac.uk>, you write...
|To Ms L.King,
| 
|Is this your real name??
|I am sure you are a jew so your name has to be something like
|KAHAN, KHIEEM, or MENAHIM.
|That is the practice of all the jews they change their names
|claim they are christians
|then they start attaking ISLAM and the MUSLIM regadless in the
|name of FREEDOM.
| 
|Why do not you attak the Turkish Govenment who ban the Hijab
|and SADDAM who killed thousands of innocent people. 
| 
|NO OFF COURSE NOT 
| 
|The Turkish gov. doing a very good job especially their are thousands of
|jews (every single jew is a spy for Israel) in Turkey
|and Saddam is a great man in your eyes
|and most of the American and the jews where else they can find
|an evil like him
|This the truth ms King or what ever your name is.
| 
| 
|M.G
|CARDIFF, WALES, U.K

 I like to say I agree with you a 100%! 


Satan.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: javad@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Agha Javad)
Subject: Re: KURDS KILL SEVEN IN MISSLE ATTACK ON TURKISH TOWN
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:30:57 GMT
Organization: LabaniyyAtee-e-Sar-e-Koocheh

In article <12NOV199206532838@rosie.uh.edu> cosc186y@rosie.uh.edu (92F06787) writes:
> I am so happy! As a Kurd I'm sick of us trying to work things
>peacefully or asking other countries to help us. What we need
>to do is to kill all those goddam Arabs and Turks that act nice
>as individuals, but are monsters when they're with their own

Notice how conveniently he left out Iranians.  Whose payroll is this guy
on?

>kind. Those Pesh Madgres are the only true heores left in the
>Middle East!
>
>
>Satan.
>

Isn't there a conflict of interest with Ahoora Joon here? hmmm..


Agha Javad
From: mahin@reg.triumf.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: *yawn* tired of Seyyed Joon
Date: 10 Nov 1992 18:53 PST
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: reg.triumf.ca
Summary: *yawn*
Keywords: *yawn*
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <lfvtqkINNq6j@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi) writes...
>In article <1992Nov9.224821.28120@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com> javad@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Agha Javad) writes:
> 
>[ picteresque slinging of water+dirt mixture deleted ]
> 
>>
>>peace and non-violence, things you not surprisingly have difficulty 
>>understanding, given the steroid level in your blood and the Folger's crystals
>>[(c) 1992 Shahrokh] content of your head.  
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> 
>javaad, relax, no one takes these guys seriously anyway.  their pooch
>arguments, repeated over and over and over again, have become more 
>predictable than the Circuit City once-in-a-lifetime weekend sales.
> 

This is to Agha Javaad, Lorne King and whoever else that spends their precious
time explaining such trivial matters like the absurdity of "hejaab", and the 
obvious rights of women, down to such detail that any 10 year old with half an
ounce of brains would understand and agree.

Let me tell you, if you haven't noticed already, Seyyed Joon and Ali Abgooshti
do not have the capacity to understand such simple matters nor to respond
with healthy and challenging arguments.  If you look at all the previous 
articles you'll notice the more logical you became, the more illogical 
they became.  So I suggest that you treat them as a couple of zits. 
Ignore them and they'll go away, and if you keep picking at them you'll 
experience even grosser excretions.

Mahin, (can't-bear-another-S.J.-nor-A.A.-article)

p.s. don't you all think this "hejab" argument has been beaten to death?
     4 months and still going at it!
From: scemg@thor.cf.ac.uk ("M.G")
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Ms(mr)King real name(The jews)
Date: 13 Nov 92 13:23:21 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff, Cardiff, Wales, UK
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

Ms Mellisa Namazi writes in her article that I am ANGRY???

YES oh YES I am ANGREY

I beleive A MUSLIM should care about his fellow muslims

I am very angry when I see:

-the jews on this net attaking I.R.IRAN with or without reason just
 because it is an Islamic state 
(during the shah these scums use to appraise Iran)

-the jews helping and arming the serbs to kill muslims in thousands

-your so called freedom lovers the SCUMS American killed thousand
 of Iraqi people and even they buried the ingured alive during the
 gulf war

-The economic sanction by the order of the (the jewish loby)
 against the I.R.Iran just because the Iranians had their freedom 
 in 1979
 
-The muslims in south Lebanon who have been bombarded daily by 
- the jews
- and more and more examples about the suffering of the muslims
  all over the world

If you are not angry and happy with the suffering of the muslims 
then I realy feel sorry for you.


                         *** AS LONG AS THE MUSLIMS FOLLOW THIS BOOK ***
                            ((he was holding the QUR'AN in his hand))
                                   ***  WE NEVER DEFEAT THEM ***

                                        A British M.P
                                        speaking in the parliaman 1920



M.G.
Cardiff, Wales, U.K
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Clinton - Foreign Policy -3: Statements Made To Bolster Bush
Originator: sehari@class1.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 06:10:24 GMT

11/04 (DJ) Clinton - Foreign Policy -3: Statements Made To Bolster Bush

    Clinton suggested that he has little inclination to be drawn into
foreign policy matters before he is sworn into office next January. The
short, blunt statement seemed designed to bolster President Bush on the
world stage despite his lame duck status.
    ''America has only one president at a time,'' said Clinton, urging
U.S. allies to ''continue their full cooperation with'' Bush.
    ''American foreign policy remains solely in his hands,'' Clinton
said.
     4:27 PM
                                 -END-
------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: manizh@eng.umd.edu (Reza Shahidi)
Subject: Re: Women in Iran (technology vs lifestyle)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 21:56:20 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity von Uniland, College Park
Keywords: Politics, Difference
Originator: manizh@nyquist.src.umd.edu


In article <1992Nov7.040957.20138@wuecl.wustl.edu>, seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian) writes:
j>
>They fly to explore the wonder of western life :-) You may wonder if I tell
>you that in Iran, western culture is considered a "backward" culture. The only
>thing good about the west, is its technology and science, and we are following
>that. But we certainly are not going to follow the philosophy and lifestyle of
>the west.
>
j>
>Seyyed.
I do not think that lifestyle and technological growth are independent as
some want to believe.  Prior to Renaissance, west was a backward culture
from all points because of their lifestyle. About a month ago, I heard
a funny news that after centuries the Pope declared that Galilee was right
and the church was wrong (this is in reference to the fact that earth is round
and is not the center of the world). Now, as soon as, western culture changed
from having the church running their lives and thinking for them, they started
to grow. In order to achieve an excellence in intellectual activities, one needs
to have a free environment to flurish. This is recognized in theoretical teachings
of Islam as well. 

We know that West provides the environment for intellectual growth. This is
because in the west you can openly discuss, object, or move in a new direction
without any unwanted filters. There is no one who can claim what is right and
what is wrong. A professor learns with his/her students. There is no absolute
authority figure. You can challenge anybody freely.  This is the lifestyle that
promotes growth, to listen and learn. If we just learn how to listen and how
to decide freely and objectively, we have learned a lot. In our culture, interaction
is not encouraged. You often hear things like: tou bache-yee, nemee-fahmee.
AghA bozorgtarant, behtar meedonand. You learn to move with the flow and there
will be no growth from generation to generation. Learn tolerance and teach it
to others. Once you understand the impact of freedom of choice, then you'll
understand why west is where it is and we are where we are!!!...

-Reza
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.arabic
From: hhamouda@unity.ncsu.edu (Hechmi Hamouda)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re:CONVERSION US & INTERN'L VIDEOTAPES
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:38:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: ncsu.1992Nov10.193816.16802
Organization: North Carolina State University Project Unity

Hi,
 
Because of sevral e-mailrequests, I am posting again this message here for the
benefit of others who might need such service.

There is a service in Raleigh, NC where video conversion from any country format
to any format can be made (VHS, VHS-C and 8 mm types of cassettes).
This will allow playback of videotapes made overseas, here on U.S. TV's and VCR's
(NTSC System). The service will also convert the other way around, from
U.S. system to any of the systems used anywhere else in the world (PAL,
SECAM, etc..) 
 
Mailing Address:  INTERNATIONAL VIDEO CONVERSION
                  520 Harvest Lane
                  Raleigh, NC 27606-2217
 
Phone:            (919) 233-8689
 
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                  (Price of a High Grade Cassette Included, 2hrs or less)

Delivery:         Mailed back the next day, express shipping at request. 
 
Payment: 	  Cheque, Cash or Money Order mailed with tape.


Regards,
Hechmi.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.turkish
From: ramin g. shamsili <ramins@kjemi.unit.no>
Subject: a test
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A72599DC2B012796@pca20.kjemi.unit.no>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 10 Nov 92 15:54:52 GMT
Organization: Dept. Inorganic Chemistry, Norwegian Inst. Technology
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 15:54:00 GMT

testing
From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: You make the call (Iran vs. Japan - Asian Cup)
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:59:08 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: handel

In article <sehari.721270915@class1.iastate.edu> sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:


>
>>>British are nothing but a third world country these days.  Like other
>>>Empires before it, it has gone with the wind.  However, it might be a
>>>"towte'e" by Japanese.  Off course, our great friend U.S. might have
			   ~~~~~~~~~~

that, you are.  waaaay off course.  lets blame *everything* on the
west, shall we?

>>>something with it, too. The victory would have given Iran more popularity
>>>in the Republics.
>>>       ^^^^^^^^^
>>>                    With highest regards,
>>>                         Babak   Sehari.
>
>>Now if we only knew what the Republics is.
>
>>Regards,
>>Hooshyar F. Naraghi
>>bavafa@netcom.com
>>(415) 322-8056
>
>The farmer Soviet republics.
     ~~~~~~

farmer???  ah!  another freudian slip: you miss home!  moooooo.

>
>
>--
From: nadja@jetsun.weitek.COM (Nadja Adolf)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Hmmmph...
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:36:09 GMT
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA


In article <4NOV199211354484@utrcv1> ali@utrcv1 (ALI BABA) writes:
>
>You might be excellent as you mentioned it in your article in getting down
>but you sound to me like a chicken cheer leader in wrestling game who doesn't
>have the guts to wrestle but sit down out side the mat and shuts (sheer Ali
>lengesh kone).
>(oone mamah ra looloo khoord ) or say it in American way you missed the
>boat buddy, Where were you when the real man came and changed Iran ? maybe
>you were down booging.

And where were you? Obviously not on the front lines.
Here's a song that fits the occasion: 
It's an old one circa WWI; I don't remember the title,
but I've nicknamed it the 'Dan Quayle and Ali Baba theme.'

I love my flag, I do, I do, which waves upon the breeze.
I also love my arms and legs and neck and nose and knees.
One little shell could spoil them all, or give them such a twist
That they would be of no use to me, I guess I won't enlist.


 
>It needs a man to change a society and I don't see that character in you.
>For me America is my country but I admire the faithful people where ever
>they are and my duty is to help good and faithful American people to bring
>this country back to god where it be a safe place for my kids to live.

Thank you so much. My ancestors had been here for a few dozen thousands
of years with no problems, no contagious epidemics, a lot of regular 
bathing and real sanitation and then the crazy and filthy 
European Christians arrive and ban our religions and our associated 
'heathen' practices, such as not defecating in the water supply and
taking regular baths. According to the Christian fanatics bathing and
cleanliness were signs of savagery.

We've had 500 years of Christian crazies trying to make us dress in
uncomfortable clothing because Christian men can't control themselves;
now we get a bunch of Muslims who appear to have even less self control
if one uses the dress code as any indication.
 
Ali Baba - I've got a great idea that should make us both happy  - why don't 
you go home and become a martyr and go to heaven and take all your 
fellow fanatic friends with you. 

>For you I don't know what you are waiting for If you think it's time to
>change why don't you go back and help. Maybe you are too scared. You will
>learn alot from the 12 years old kid back home. They will teach you what
>guts and glory is about .

Why don't you go home and enlist. Although I'd use goats as minesweepers,
I understand that in a theocracy where there is no birth control that
goats are probably harder to find than twelve year olds. I'm sure the 
Iranian Army is taking enlistments. You're much bigger than a twelve 
year old, and could probably take out a whole bunch of mines with one step.
-- 
The Earth Pig Bourne....

nadja@node.com (prefered email address)
nadja@weitek.com
From: cosc186y@rosie.uh.edu (92F06787)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: RE:Culture and Women
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:03:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: rosie.10NOV199209034964
Organization: University of Houston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


 Regarding this bitch Loren "I wish I was Iranian!" King,

  Get the hell off of soc.culture.iranian! You don't know what the fuck
you are talking about?            ^^^^^^^

Satan
From: mojgan@orion.oac.uci.edu (Mojgan Bonakdar)
Subject: Re: Shah-nama Ferdawsi
Summary: more info please...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 13 Nov 92 05:59:01 GMT


In article <1992Nov9.203500.3917@donner.SanDiego.NCR.COM> zamie@zamiepcSanDiego.NCR.com (Zamie Mehraz) writes:

	{Great adventure stories deleated....}



Would you please be so kind as to provide a bit more information on
"ShAhnameh" and its heoros.

Which books are you using?


Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: lking@athena.mit.edu (Loren King)
Subject: Re: still looking for answers
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:11:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.231519.11619@wuecl.wustl.edu>, seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov5.034645.6626@athena.mit.edu> lking@athena.mit.edu (Loren King) writes:
|> 
|> >In article <massoud.11.720903231@chemteca.sdsu.edu>, massoud@chemteca.sdsu.edu (Massoud Ajami) writes:
|>  
|> >|> No, you are wrong. The intensities are not the same.
|> >
|> >What rubbish!  You just stated in an earlier post that "there are lots
|>                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> >of things that men don't understand about women," but now you're an 
|>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> >authority on general patterns of sexual arousal?  What makes you think
|> >that there are any general truths about what counts as erotic to whom?
|> >At least any that are of any interest?
|> 
|> If I am not mistaken, you are confusing Massoud Ajami with me! Those are
|> my words, and are under copyright law. If you refer to them, you should
|> state my name, otherwise I and Mortazavi publishing company are going to
|> sue you.  :-)


Sorry about that.  I mixed up the headers to a bunch of files
when I saved them to read.


_________

Loren King
MIT
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: 9999sc01@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu (Alexandre Khalil)
Subject: Re: Farsi Word processors for the MAC?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41A   
Organization: University of Houston-Downtown
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 05:26:00 GMT

In article <tooraj.721195832@daneel.rdt.monash.edu.au>, tooraj@daneel.rdt.monash.edu.au (Tooraj Enayati) writes...
>mehdi@admin.kth.se (Mehdi Alipour) writes:
> 
>>In article <Bx0GoA.BDL@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>, mehran@monet.uwaterloo.ca (Mehran Farimani) writes:
>>>Hi all,
>>>
>>>Could anyone give me information on Farsi word processors available for
>>>MACs? Things like the name and address of the company would also be helpful.
>>>
>>>Thanx in advance ...
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>--Mehran
> 
>>I'm interested to such informations too.
> 
>>mehdi/      mehdi@admin.kth.se
> 
>There are a few around (no public domain or shareware one as far as I
>know). The  best known for Persian is Al'KAteb. Your Apple dealer should 
>be able to help you with that. I will try to find the address of the 
>company. They also publish the Windows version called Vajeh-Negar. 
>They each cost about $400.

  Is there any thing wrong with aria - from tehran.stanford.edu - ?

>For the Mac users, there is always the cheaper alternative of getting the
>arabic system for afew dollars and editing/adding fonts and making any
>word processor write in Persian. That is if you can handle the menubars
>in Arabic :-) Of course  you can chnge those with ResEdit and make them
>write Persian. 

  The Arabic system 7.1 is available by anonymous ftp from 

 -  bric-a-brac.apple.com   (130.43.2.3)   in  /dts/mac/sys.soft.intl/arabic

 -  quepasa.cs.tu-berlin.de (130.149.17.7) 
                       in  /pub/mac/mirrors/apple/dts/mac/sys.soft.intl/arabic

  Did any one bothered modifying System 7.1 into Farsi ?
  Maybe that person could then post the modified system on some friendly ftp 
site.  
  BTW, Arabic 6.0.7 is also available.

>God, I wish I had a Mac :-(

  Same here.  :(

>Regards.

>Tooraj Enayati     Melbourne     Australia     tooraj@daneel.rdt.monash.edu.au
>Monash University       Robotic and Digital Technology       (Graduate/Alumni)

alex@dt.uh.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.african