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From: WMONROE%USMCP6.bitnet@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU (WILLIAM MONROE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: SOCCER WORDS
Date: 11 Nov 1992 13:54:24 -0600
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Here is an update as to the languages that have been sent in so far.

Full means a more or less complete list of words.  Other means only the word for
"soccer" or Humorous responses.


 Full                        Other
=======                    =========
Arabic                      Tumbuka  > African Languages
Chinese                     Chewa   /
Dutch
Finnish                     Venezuela
French
German                      British       \
Greek                       Liverpool :-)  \____ English
Hebrew                      Australian :-) /
Italian                     American      /
Malaysian
Portuguese
Romanian
Spanish

Well that's it so far.  I am going to ask my roomate for Russian, he lives near
Moscow.  Anyone from Japan??  Having won the Asian Cup perhaps some one would
like to let know some Japanese soccer words.  I will give this another week to
see if anymore come in, then post the first `International Soccer Dictionary' in
a few weeks as soon as I sort thru all the responses.   Thanks to the folks who
have sent in a list.  If _your_ language isn't listed, and you want it in the
final post, just send to me a list of soccer words, (ex. soccer, referee,
players, field markings, or whatever)  and I'll be sure to put it in.

Thanks,
Bill Monroe

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From: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Subject: Re: English Fitba' Crisis
Keywords: No teams in Europe
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Date: 5 Nov 92 18:52:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.111508.3963@spider.co.uk> scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson) writes:
>The so called "best league in the World" can't produce teams that get past
>the second round of European competitions. Not one of their teams competing
>last night won a game, and they were all at home. Of course Leeds Utd. were
>beaten by the British Champions, who of course come from Scotland. Liverpool,
>well a 2-0 defeat at home does little for Souness and Sheffield Wednesday,
>well they're Gladys anyway so no excuses there. However, this so called
>"Premier League" consists of very average teams, most of which would struggle
>in the Scottish league.
>
A quick glance at an FA Premier League table would have given little
cause for optimism for the three remaining English teams:- all are
currently languishing in the bottom half of the table. Given that
they're struggling against domestic opposition, it's hardly surprising
they struggled in European competition. Clubs that do well in Europe
are (obviously) very often ones that maintain their domestic standards
from the previous season. Unfortunately for England, none of this trio
is playing anything like they did last season when they qualified for
Europe. 


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From: marco@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Marco Petroni)
Subject: Re: WC:Squads;Italy,Belgium,N.Ireland,Scotland
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines, Montreal, Canada
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 01:19:58 GMT

In article <9211101521.AA26051@garnet.berkeley.edu> shadlin@garnet.berkeley.edu writes:
>
>Why does Sacchi leave Zola out of the team?  Does anybody else find
>that as strange as I do?

I also do, as I especially like the way that Zola plays, but then again,
I'm not the one making the decisions. Surprising that Sacchi capped
Mancini instead of Zola, as Zola has perhaps been the only consistent
player for Napoli in recent weeks, and Mancini, actually, all of Samp,
IMHO is missing *something* compared to last season.

Marco...
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From: yu030@cucs18.cs.cuhk.hk (Yu Wai Leung)
Subject: Asian Cup semi-finals
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 01:54:03 GMT

The two semi-finals will be:

Japan v China
UAE   v Saudi Arabia

That's all
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Subject: Neil Webb news
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 09:12:37 +0000







 Neil Webb is on the move. Man Utd and Nottm Forest have agreed a 
 fee believed to be in the region of #750,000. Half the price Man 
 Utd payed for him when they bought him from Forest. Yesterday Webb 
 and Forest agreed personal terms, so I believe it is simply a case 
 of signing on the dotted line now.
From: schraag@fwi.uva.nl (Joost Schraag)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: UEFA Cup results, second leg of second round.
Summary: played 3/11 and 4/11/92.
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:47:38 GMT
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Tuesday:

KV Mechelen (Belgium) -Vitesse (Holland) 0-1
   74' Cocu
  Vitesse wins on 2-0 aggregate.

Real Zaragoza (Spain) - Frem Copenhagen (Denmark) 5-1
    7' Mateut  1-0
   38' Mateut  2-0
   39' Seba    3-0
   66' Seba    4-0
   74' Colding 4-1
   83' Mateut  5-1
  Real Zaragoza wins on 6-1 aggregate.

Celtic (Scotland) - Borussia Dortmund (Germany) 1-2
   13' Creany    1-0
   53' Chapuisat 1-1
   58' Zorc      1-2
  Borussia wins on 3-1 aggregate.

Wednesday:

Ajax (Holland) - Vitoria Guimaraes (Portugal) 2-1
   25' Bergkamp 1-0
   47' N'Dinga  1-1
   60' Alflen   2-1
  Ajax wins on 5-1 aggregate.

Galatasaray (Turkey) - Eintracht Frankfurt (Germany) 1-0
    6' Ugur
  Galatasaray wins on 1-0 aggregate.

Sigma Olomouc (Czecho-Slowakia) - Fenerbahce (Turkey) 7-1
    9' Hanus    1-0
   12' Kerbr    2-0
   34' Barborik 3-0
   38' Aykut    3-1
   51' Marosi   4-1
   76' Fiala    5-1
   80' Vadura   6-1
   90' Hanus    7-1
       Ismail of Fenerbahce got a red card in the first half.
       Gerson of Fenerbahce got a red card in the last 15 minutes.
       Hakan of Fenerbahce got a red card in the last 15 minutes.
  Sigma Olomouc wins on 7-2 aggregate.

FC Copenhagen (Denmark) - Auxerre (France) 0-2
   64' Cocard
   88' Bonalair
  Auxerre wins on 7-0 aggregate.

VAC Izzo (Hungary) - Benfica (Portugal) 0-1
   13' Schwarz (penalty)
       Bereckzi of VAC Izzo got a red card in the second half.
       Puglits of VAC Izzo got a red card in the second half.
  Benfica wins on 6-1 aggregate.

Torpedo Moskou (Russia) - Real Madrid (Spain) 3-2
    8' Zamorano   0-1
   12' Talalajev  1-1
   57' Hierro     1-2
   61' Tisjkov    2-2
   75' Moedrasjov 3-2
       Sanchis of Real was sent of after his second yellow card just
       before time.
  Real wins on 7-5 aggregate.

Dinamo Kiev (Ukraine) - Anderlecht (Belgium) 0-3
   20' van Vossen
   61' Nilis
   67' Nilis
  Anderlecht wins on 7-2 aggregate.

Sheffield Wednesday (England) - Kaiserslautern (Germany) 2-2
   27' Wilson   1-0
   63' Witeczek 1-1
   65' Sheridan 2-1
   76' Zeyer    2-2
  Kaiserslautern wins on 5-3 aggregate.

Grasshoppers (Schwitzerland) - AS Roma (Italy) 4-3
    7' Rizzitelli 0-1
   30' Caniggia   0-2
   36' de Vicente 1-2 (penalty)
   49' Sutter     2-2
   58' Ga"mperle  3-2
   68' de Vicente 4-2
   89' Rizzitelli 4-3
       Zuberbu"lher of Grasshoppers got a red card.
  AS Roma wins on 6-4 aggregate.

Standard Luik (Belgium) - Heart of Midlothian (Scotland) 1-0
   62' Wilmots
  Standard wins on 2-0 aggregate.

Juventus (Italy) - Panathinaikos (Greece) 0-0
  Juventus wins on 1-0 aggregate.

Paris Saint Germain (France) - Napoli (Italy) 0-0
   PSG wins on 2-0 aggregate.

joost.

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From: mppu3@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Conor McMenamin)
Subject: Re: IRAE READ THIS!
Organization: University of Sussex
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:42:55 GMT

mcsbc2gw@dct.ac.uk writes:
: and were then ejected when McCoist flicked on a Goram punt down the park to
: Hately, whose freak goal soard over 'Mr inert' in the Leeds goal after only 2
: minutes.

Lukic - The Krypton Factor (sad joke for all you chemists out there...)

Conor
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From: JI.RCB@isumvs.iastate.edu (Robert Bergmann)
Subject: Re: Just laughing at England
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:20:15 GMT

In article <9211121420.AA15454@picard.cam.nad.northrop.com>,
tedwards@cam.nad.northrop.com (Tony Edwards) writes:
>
>OK which league is better the Scotish Premier or the English Premier
>Well since they dont play each on a regular basis, how about we compare
>the past history in Europe lets say over the last 20 years. That should give
>us a real idea on who has the better overall record.

What your suggesting will not prove anything about the relative
strengths of the leagues currently.  The point that is being
suggested is that English teams arn't any good anymore.  History is
not a good measure of this.
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From: louis@aie.nl (Louis Kossen)
Subject: Draw EC1 poules.
Organization: AI Engineering BV, Amsterdam, Netherlands
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 10:58:12 GMT

At this moment the draw of the EC1 poules is started. Each match starts
at 8.30 european time. Its broadcasted live on television.

POULE 1: BRUGGE, MARSEILLE, CSKA MOSKOW,  GLASGOW RANGERS.

POULE 2: AC MILAN, PORTO, GOTEBORG, PSV

first matches:

BRUGGE - MOSCOW 
RANGERS - MARSEILLE

AC MILAN - GOTEBORG
PORTO - PSV

Louis Kossen




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From: gharpure@power.psl.ee.vt.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Liverpool-Blackburn...When ?
Date: 8 Nov 1992 08:57:22 -0600
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Can someone please post the dates of Liverpool-Blackburn matches?

Vasudev

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From: cpalmer@dingo.rtp.dg.com ()
Subject: Re: Klinsmann 
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 92 15:08:19 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, Westboro MA
Keywords: penalties, dives etc

In article <1992Oct27.221602.28953@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jcostas@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (constantinos.n.tsioras) writes:
>Pretty interesting I thought - here's a case where a player (Klinsmann) that's
>been crying wolf too long too often is punished for it. 
>I'm trying to think of other players around the world that are so well known
>for their theatrics, that even when they're really fouled there's immediate
>disbelief. Any help ?

Well, one who WAS notorious a few years ago was Billy Bremner.
He seemed to love to hack other people but would collapse like
a bag of bricks whenever somebody even ran close to him.
But it all came back to haunt him in the one big game :-)
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From: SYSMAINT%BRUFBA.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU (Luiz Alberto)
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Subject: Championship of Sao Paulo - Br
Date: 13 Nov 1992 06:22:32 -0600
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 Championship of state of Sao Paulo , Brazil
 *******************************************
 Group 1
 -------

(Nov. 11st)
  Place - Pacaembu     Att. - 40.000
  Santos         0-3   Sao Paulo
                       Palhinha (1)
                       Toninho Cerezo (1)
                       Vitor (2)

  Place - Moises Lucarelli  Att. - 17.127
  Ponte Preta    0-1   Portuguesa
                       Adil 44(2)

 Group 2
 -------

(Nov. 12th)
  Place - Wilson de Barros
  Mogi Mirim     2-2   Corinthians
  Valber 20(1)         Neto 6(1)
  Chiquinho 34(2)      Nilson 42(2)


  Place - Parque Antarctica  Att. - 31.897
  Palmeiras      1-0   Guarani
  Evair 16(1)


Group 1
-------
Team            G    W   D   L    GF-GA  Points
------------------------------------------------
Sao Paulo      02   02  00  00    05-00     05 (*) Because First
Portuguesa     02   01  00  01    01-02     02
Santos         02   01  00  01    01-03     02     Group A
Ponte Preta    02   00  00  02    00-02     00

Group 2
-------
Team            G    W   D   L    GF-GA  Points
------------------------------------------------
Palmeiras      02   02  00  00    02-00     04
Guarani        02   01  00  01    03-01     02
Corinthians    02   00  01  01    02-03     01
Mogi Mirim     02   00  01  01    02-05     01
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From: leeh7@fel.tno.nl (Ed van Leeuwen)
Subject: Re: rec.sport.soccer.referee?
Organization: TNO Physics and Electronics Laboratory
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 12:47:52 GMT

jwk@sequent.com (John "Just Say Noe" Kramer) writes:

>Thanks Ed "High Moral Ground" van Leeuwen. I'd be happy for refs to have
>their own group if they don't have any humour (note the above smiley). 
>If you've never attended an English League match then you might not
>understand but I do not have to apologise to you. Lighten up!

If humour is 'hearing the same joke over and over again' I do not
think it is my type of humour, even if a smiley should excuse it.
If you do want to be original, make a list of all refs nicknames
and post it to the group. This would be sort of a 'Referee Nickname
FAQ'. If I can, I would be happy to contribute as well...


					This time regards,

					Ed.

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From: rolls@cis.umassd.edu (Frank Pinto)
Subject: BRAZIL in 94
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:14:36 GMT

Hello all

Look out for Brazil in 94. They are goingo to come
out screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeming. :-)

Frank Pinto
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Subject: Re: Rijkaard to Blackburn?
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:57:11 +0000







In article <1992Nov9.150153.3678@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
marco@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Marco Petroni) writes:

>In article <1992Nov9.133817.7525@fwi.uva.nl> schraag@fwi.uva.nl (Joost Schraag)

>writes:
>>
>> [stuff deleted]
>>
>>Just this week Rijkaard (and van Basten) signed new contracts with AC
>>Milan, extending them to august 1995. And most likely a raise in salary
>>an bonuses.
>>Gullit is the man with the undecided future at AC.

>I would think, though, that Gullit will also have a new contract with
>Milan, even if there are some doubts about his future. In the past,
>there were also doubts and speculations as to whether Gullit would be
>dropped, but in the end, he was always signed.

I read somewhere this week-end that Gullit would like to go to Real Madrid.
He said something along that the lines that he is 30, in his prime, and would
like a new challenge. Real have been making overtures for 2 or 3 years and he'd
like to help them regain the European Cup.

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From: chicco@leland.Stanford.EDU (Motlatsi M. Mokoena)
Subject: test
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 02:26:51 GMT


test,
From: mcsbc2gw@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Calling all DUFC fans and ARABS!!!!
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:33:38 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

Looking for Arabs out there, dundee united f.c. fans

If anyone is out there at all, incl. George from Bath
then please get in touch with me at the above address
I need you as you need me.


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From: altizer@figaro (Robert Altizer)
Subject: Re: CALLING KEEPERS
Reply-To: altizer@chdasic.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola SPS
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 00:39:52 GMT

In article 17899@syma.sussex.ac.uk, janm@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Jan Metzger) writes:
>In the league I play in there is a ref. who is constantly is awarding indirect
>free kicks against me for shouting "keeper's" to loudly.(I'm a GOALKEEPER)
>He says it puts the strikers off and is against the rules !  He claims I
>should call for the ball but not to loudly, I supposedly call for it to
>aggresively.  Well what I am I supposed to do when I'm in the middle of 3
>strikers, two defenders and everybody wants that ball? Say "please could I
>have that ball".  I do admit that I make my call loudly but I don't scream.
>
>Is there some rule that he can apply against me in such a case ?

If you call out to an opponent just to distract him, then you are guilty of 
ungentlemanly conduct and should be cautioned.  If you are calling to your
teammates, then it's part of the game and there's no infraction.  The ref
awarding the IFK against you (presumably for dangerous play??) should be able
to tell the difference, but seems to have made up his own interpretation of
Law XII (Fouls and Misconduct).

>In the following case with the same ref. I'm quite sure that there is no such
>rule but if somebody can prove me wrong I'll find it every interesting:
>
>The ball is out of play, the other team is going to take a corner, somebody is
>just going to fetch the ball.  I start yelling encouragement and instructions
>to my defense in German.  The league I play in is in the south of England.  I
>got a yellow card and the club the subsiquent fine.  (... more deleted...)

Not only are the ref's knickers too tight, he's got a bad case of Xenophobia!
Here in Arizona I regularly referee games between Spanish speaking teams, as
you might expect.  But I also get Farsi (Iran), Serbian, Croatian, German, 
Russian, Laotian, Korean, Italian, Scottish, and other bizarre dialects.  He's
obviously using his own bigoted view of the game, as FIFA (a French acronymmm)
has nothing to say about what language shall be used.  What a git!

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From: kgamble@OES.ORST.EDU (Kevin Gamble)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Polls (was ACC Soccer Update)
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:25:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bx8yq2.2EC
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oregon State University Extension Service, Corvallis, OR

In article <1992Nov4.214327.27512@SSD.intel.com> jimd@ssd.intel.com (Jim DePorter) writes:
>In article <Bx7FLA.IMt@news.orst.edu> kgamble@OES.ORST.EDU (Kevin Gamble) writes:

>>Duke is now ranked #2, and Virginia has moved to #3...

My source for this was an article in our local paper. I suspect that 
they had Virginia and Portland reversed. I'm going to the ACC
tourney today and they will list the polls in the program. I'll
post a follow-up with the correct info.

>In the Wednesday edition of The Oregonian (Portland, OR), dated Nov 4,
>there are two polls for mens Collegiate Soccer:
>
>Soccer America
>1. North Carolina State (11-2-3)
>
>ISAA MEN
>1. Portland			452
>
>  Anyway, I'm curious what the date of the SA poll you have. I sure
>wish there was a way of getting more information about who and how
>the polls are run...   

The date of the poll was November 3. I too am quite curious about
how the polls are run. I've been watching them quite closely this
year, and from all of the teams I've seen I trust the SA poll more.
This is mostly from watching the women's rankings. I've seen teams
hammered only to see them move up, and the team that beat them
move down. For example, NC State moved up the week that they
were beaten by UNC Willmington (unranked). 

If anybody knows about these polls I'd love to hear more.

BTW, I'd love nothing more than to see the Pilots in the final four.

Kevin Gamble (kgamble@ces.ncsu.edu)
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From: dwb@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Dave Baines)
Subject: Re: European coefficients
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Edinburgh University
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:54:12 GMT

In <MARTIN.92Nov10170337@kilo.inferenzsysteme.informatik.th-darmstadt.de> martin@inferenzsysteme.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Martin Protzen) writes:


> * Wal    -     9.00   7.00   1     -     -    -   -   -    -   1    1.00   8.00
>* Wales only competes in the CWC, I'm not sure whether Israel and Liechtenstein
>Comments, corrections, questions welcome.

The current season is the first season of the Konica League of Wales and I
think I am correct in saying that the champions will be admitted to the
European Champions Cup and another side may get a UEFA place. This is one of
the reasons why Cardiff City are thinking of leaving the English League to
join the Konica League of Wales. I suspect some of the other clubs which
refused to join this season and are groundsharing with English clubs will
return as some are having financial problems.
Dave
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Fri,  6 Nov 1992 12:14:31 -0500 
From: Saverio Cittadini <sc4n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Dunga

Ok, *now* I can say it... Dunga *has* finally signed with Pescara ! He
might play his first game of the season next Sunday in Parma...

                                                               Saverio

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