From: c60a-zg@volga.Berkeley.EDU (Martin Guerrero-LabA)
Subject: Right to Choose to Kill (Was Re: Abortion Rights)
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 07:14:25 GMT

In article <athos-170792113154@athos.apple.com> athos@apple.com (Rick Eames) writes:
>In article <1992Jul11.180611.17679@ntmtv>, jazanopa@ntmtv.UUCP (Patricia
>Jazanoski) wrote:

(written by athos@apple.com):
>Fine, but abortion is not, contrary to whatever the Supreme Court says, a
>fundamental right set out in the constitution.  I have a copy right here in
>front of me, and it is simply not in there.  Period.
>

Actually, it is in the constution if you want penumbras and emanations.
C'mon now.  Lawyers, judges, stretching the meaning of the Constitution to
allow the Right to Choose to Kill?!?

>> Many women living in rural areas would be forced to make two longs
>> trips. Women would be forced to take 2 days off from work. Women with
>> children would be forced to find day-care for 2 days. Oh yes, 
>> many (to most) women that get abortions already have other children.
>
Also, 40% of all abortions are performed on women who have had an abortion
previouslyand LOTS of the cases involved abortion out of wedlock.

>Oh, gosh.  How dare us put the mother out of her way in destroying a life. 
>Man, why don't we just hand out abortion at home kits?

Heh.  But there probably already is?  Not only do some people consider
killing the unborn a right, they want the government to pay for it?!?!???
This makes no sense at all.

> 
>> ********************************************************************
>> Most people don't know:
>> 
>>    Having an abortion in the first trimester has less health risks 
>>    associated with it than carrying a baby full term and giving birth.
>> 
>> ********************************************************************
>
>Except, of course, the baby's health.  I think their health is rather
>snuffed, eh?

baby's health?  What health?  All it is is a bunch of cells which acts as
a parasite in the mother's womb, sucking the life out of her.  Parasites
are evil and what's wrong with exterminating parasites which live
ona person's body?  Exterminate all cancerous parasites!

> 
>> It really irks me that pro-lifers insist on pushing their morality on 
>> other people: people they don't know anything about and people that are
>> in situations they could never imagine. The hard-core pro-lifers should 
>> be directing their efforts to make it easier for women to have their 
>> babies: provide them homes, clothing, food. And don't forget, having a 
>> child is forever, so let's provide reasonable schools, cities without
>> crime and access to higher education to everyone.  And then let
>> women decide.
>
>This is what bothers me: pro-choicers do not seem to realize that we view
>that "thing" you are aborting as a full human life: as much of one as a
>baby.  I would stop you from killing a baby too!  Why?  Because it angers
>me in the same manner.  It's not "forcing a morality."  Don't you
>understand that when we hear about an abortion, it's like telling us "I
>just shot my baby."  That's how we feel.  I think the debate makes more
>sense when you understand that thinking.
>
>--
>Rick Eames
>athos@apple.com
>My opinions are my own, thank you very much!

Yes, it isn't a question of morality or religion or anything like that.
There are many athiest women who are staunchly pro-life.  They are not
imposing their morality but rather, they too, like many pro-lifers are
really concerned about OUR children who will take on OUR traits, our 
personality, our hair color, our taste in food, etc.  We must cherish
human beings once again as human beings, rather than some parasite or some
economic liability.  Behind all the $$$, and the abortions, are real
human beings.

Abortion is an act of violence.  Choose love of life instead.


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