HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: yehavi@vms.huji.ac.il
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: HISTORY is OFF, can HISTORY.V60 be deleted?
Date: 28 Jan 93 20:58:23 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem

  I set the HISTORY to OFF inside NEWS (the chance to get an expired article
here is small and I want to save disk accesses). Can I now delete safely
the HISTORY.V60 file?
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Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: NNTP client users see only last 5 READ entries
From: spb@ntrs.uucp (Steve Bonine)
Date: 23 Jan 93 17:25:33 GMT
Organization: Northern Trust Company
Nntp-Posting-User: spb

I am using NNTP with version 6.1 to serve my users via DECnet.  When the users
on the client system enter a conference, they are presented with the last five
items which they have read, plus any that they have not read.  In other words,
if there are 150 items in the newsgroup and I yesterday read through item 100,
I will see items 95-150 on the client.  They are all alive and well on the
server system if I invoke NEWS there.

Is this behavior set by the value of a logical?  I'd like to present my users
with more than five READ notes.
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Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Problem adding new server 
From: bthomas@Outlaw.UWyo.Edu ()
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:41:53 MST
Reply-To: bthomas@drifter.uwyo.edu
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Wyoming

I am adding a new server running ANU-News which is being feed by
our current server also running ANU (both ver 6.0) . I have the 
feed going to the new server working but the new server is then trying
to "reverse post" all of the news items it gets from the old server back to
the old server. 

Does anyone have an idea why the new server is do this? 

Many Thanks in advance  



 The configuration of the servers is as follows:

   CSN.ORG <---> NEWS.UWYO.EDU <---> ROPER.UWYO.EDU

Roper is the new server, News was the existing server. The
NEWS.SYS file for NEWS is:

\# First do us
me:local,alt,bit,biz,bionet,comp,gnu,ieee,info,k12,misc,ncar,news,nyu,pubnet,\
rec,sci,soc,talk,trial,usa-today,vms,vmsnet,!junk,control:N:\
NEWS_MANAGER_DEV/[IHAVE_CSN]COLLECT.IDS:*
#
# Test feed to ROPER
#
roper:misc,soc,!junk,control,!local:\
        N:NEWS_MANAGER_DEV/[IHAVE_ROPER]COLLECT.IDS
#
# Now for our "reverse-feed" site at CSN.ORG
#
csn:alt,bit,biz,bionet,comp,gnu,ieee,info,k12,misc,ncar,news,nyu,pubnet,\
rec,sci,\
soc,talk,trial,usa-today,vms,vmsnet,!junk,control,!local

NEWS.SYS for Roper is:

#
# First do us
#
me:local,alt,bit,biz,bionet,comp,gnu,ieee,info,k12,misc,ncar,news,nyu,pubnet,\
rec,sci,soc,talk,trial,usa-today,vms,vmsnet,!junk,control:N:\
NEWS_MANAGER_DEV/[IHAVE_NEWS]COLLECT.IDS:*
#
# Now for our "reverse-feed" site at NEWS.UWYO.EDU
#
news:alt,bit,biz,bionet,comp,gnu,ieee,info,k12,misc,ncar,news,nyu,pubnet,\
rec,sci,\
soc,talk,trial,usa-today,vms,vmsnet,!junk,control,!local

The NEWS.DISTRIBUTION file on NEWS is:
#
# Distributions for NEWS.UWYO.EDU
#
        csn     roper
        roper   csn


The NEWS.DISTRIBUTION file on Roper is empty. 
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From: ssurguine@cudnvr.denver.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: <None>
Date: 22 Jan 93 08:52:06 GMT

I am trying to set up NNTP.  How is this accomplished for ANU-NEWS running
on a VAX running Multinet?  My goal is to accomplish:

1) News Feed For Our Site.
2) Feed our News to another site.

I know this is accomplished with NNTP-XMIT & NNTP-XFER. But I'm not exactly
sure how.


As Always Thanks For Sharing Your Experience And Insight

Scott A. Surguine
Xref: sparky news.software.anu-news:1770 vmsnet.mail.misc:102 vmsnet.misc:1188
From: hruska@bmcw.com
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news,vmsnet.mail.misc,vmsnet.misc
Subject: How to restrict access to news by group
Date: 26 Jan 93 09:42:00 MST
Organization: BMC West Corporation

Hello all,

I have recently installed ANU-News (v6.0-1) on our VAX/VMS system
(V5.5-1) and have not been able to resolve a problem.

The purpose of installing News on our system was to provide an
additional resource for the MIS department in staying on top of the
industry, and resolving problems with the computers.  A _secondary_
reson for News is to provide bbs services for general users of the
computers.

My problem is this:  I don't want the users to have access to
newsgroups other then those that have been defined as $local.

I initially went through and set up membership lists for all of the
groups that I wanted to be 'protected' and everything seemed to work
OK untill new newsgroups started to appear in the system
("NEWS_AUTO_CREGRP" = "Y").  I don't neccessarily want to disable the
auto-create function since new and/or related news groups could prove
to be important.

My question is this:

  o  Is there a provision for restricting a user to $local groups only?

  o  Can the restriction be done using an ACL or something else the user
     will have NO_ control over?


Any assistance or insights would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

        paul


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Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: ANU NEWS on Alpha; where?
From: spain@hms.ug.eds.com (Harrison Spain)
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:17:36 PDT
Organization: EDS Unigraphics, Cypress CA
Nntp-Posting-User: spain

As I recall, someone posted a newsitem saying ANU NEWS had been successfully
ported to Alpha.  Could someone point me to where we can obtain the source?

Thank you very much! :-)

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From: bailey@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Set Display/UnSeen* v VMS CLI
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:32:23 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In following up a question previously posted here, I discovered a bug in the
Set Display command, because of which the /UnSeenItems and /UnSeenStack
qualifiers are not handled properly.  Specifically, because the CLI routines
match against only the first 4 chars of a qualifier, specifying either of these
qualifiers with the Set Display command will be interepreted as if /UnSeenItems
were present, and /UnSeenStack were not (because UnSeenItems appears before
UnSeenStack in the Display_Options type definition).  Since fixing this will
require a change in the News command set, I'm posting to get opinions on the
best way to go about this.  As far as I can see, there are two options:

1. Don't worry about it.  The best workaround at present is to set UnSeenStack
in the profile, and then exit and restart News, and then do a Show
UnseenStack=n, if you want other than 5 read articles to appear.  (The
distinction between UnSeenItems and UnSeenStack is preserved in the profile,
since the Set Profile and profile reading routines don't use the CLI facility
to parse the /Display values.)

2. Change /UnSeenItems to /UnReadItems (or to anything else unique, or change
/UnSeenStack to something else).  This can be hacked into place by simply
changing the NewsCmd.Cld line
qualifier UNSEENITEMS  nonnegatable
to
qualifier UNREADITEMS  label=UNSEENITEMS,nonnegatable
but it would likely be better to change the string throughout the source, in
order to make future upkeep simpler.  This is not a major effort in the code (a
bit more effort in the docs),but would change the present command set.

Of course, there's always option 3: A perfect fix which hasn't occurred to me.

I'll summarize replies next week, and post backa patch to implement whatever
fix appears to be the consensus.

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From: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bob Sloane)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: POST scratchfile problem
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:42:38 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <19JAN199323022959@eql.caltech.edu>,
 rankin@eql.caltech.edu (Pat Rankin) writes:
>      There wasn't any ``delete_file_versions'' function in 6.0; that was
> something I added to 6.1 to eliminate lots of inline loops.  For the older
> version that should be something like
>         if ( fd != -1 ) while (!delete(Post_file)) continue;

oops. Well, the patch I put in V6.1 seem to work, anyway.
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From: sysnett@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au (Tony Nicholson)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: Client operation and moderated groups
Date: 25 Jan 93 03:21:58 GMT
Organization: Uni of Newcastle, Australia
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Bob Sloane (sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu) wrote:
: In article <1992Dec4.152238.21199@c1.nkw.ac.uk>,
:  k_ejm@c1.nkw.ac.uk (Ed Marchewicz) writes:
: > I have successfully installed ANU-NEWS on a VAX to run as a client
: > of unix system running C-news and an nntp server. Posting from the
: > VAX to unmoderated groups works fine but if I attempt to post to a
: > moderated group which I moderate the article is mailed to me.

: There really isn't any provision in the NNTP protocol for remote
: moderation of group.  In a Client only configuration, the mailpaths
: file isn't used. Instead the article is simply sent to the server, who
: deals with it appropriatly. Since the current NNTP protocol has no way
: of telling who you are, it can't handle the article differently for
: the group's moderator than it does for any other user.  Your best bet
: is to get an account on the system where the moderated group resides.

We have the need for one of our admin users to be moderator of a campus 
research information newsgroup.  This user only wants to use ANU-NEWS 
(which he is relatively familar with) rather than get access to our 
campus nntp server machine to do his postings (IE: learn to use Unix, vi 
etc...).

Does anyone know of any programs or shell scripts to run in conjunction
with c-news on our nntp server (running Sun-OS 4.1.1) that could 
"automatically" approve his postings?  I think it should be possible to
forward the mail message generated as a result of a posting to the newsgroup 
to a program which checks the originator, adds an "Approved:" header and
invokes rnews to add the message to the news database.  Has anyone 
already written such a script/program?

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From: tto@aspentec.com
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: How to create system defined classes?
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:20:38 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Aspen Technology, Inc. Cambridge, MA.

In the version 6.0 hard copy manual, under ADD ENTRY, it states that

  ...there are facilities to allow system defined classes, and news does
  also support a number of pre-defined classess which newsgroups are
  assigned automatically.

Does anyone know how to create system defined classes? (We are running
version 6.1-3.)  And what are the pre-defined classes besides $local
and $net?

Also, where can I find the update notes (if any) to ANU NEWS?  Better still,
is there a manual more recent than the one dated 12-OCT-90?

Thanks in advance.
Tak.

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From: quodling@stimpy.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: ANU NEWS on Alpha; where?
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:15:39 GMT
Organization: SPR Alpha Migration Centre

In article <1993Jan22.181736.1@hms.ug.eds.com>, spain@hms.ug.eds.com (Harrison Spain) writes:
> As I recall, someone posted a newsitem saying ANU NEWS had been successfully
> ported to Alpha.  Could someone point me to where we can obtain the source?
> 
> Thank you very much! :-)
> 
> -- 
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>  |    VMS Platform Manager  |      Fax: (714) 952-5758                   |
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>  |    Cypress, CA  90630    |     UUCP: {uunet,uupsi}!ug!spain           |
> 

I did a compile of 6.1B5 on a 3000/500 running FT4 of OpenVMS AXP, and an early
version of the C Compiler. I works just fine (I am posting this entry with
it...)

I am in the process of building it with V1.0 OpenVMS and V1.12 (I think) of the
C compiler.  I will be passing the mods back to Geoff to merge with the master
kit.) I didn't encounter any significant problems. You may want to just try
compiling the sources, yourself....

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From: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bob Sloane)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: Broken pipe (URGENT !!!)
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:47:55 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1440@se.alcbel.be>, mvbr@se.alcbel.be (Marc Verbruggen) writes:
> However we have some users with a VT terminal and we want to give them ANU-News
> with the same news server. However, if they startup NEWS 6.0, they do not
> receive all newsgroups, but have an output with just a few dots :

Try putting:

#define DECNETSTREAM

at the beginning of NEWSREMCLIENT.C and rebuilding NEWS.
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Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Question concerning creation of newsgroups via fist nntp receive.
From: John Charles Ring <RING@JUNCOL.JUNIATA.EDU>
Date: 25 Jan 1993 16:15:53 -0500
Reply-To: John Charles Ring <RING@JUNCOL.JUNIATA.EDU>
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Vmsmail-To: SMTP%"anu-news@vm1.nodak.edu"

   Ok, so I've called a local site for a feed, and I'm ready (I hope).  I'm a
little confused about if there is an -easy- method to automatically create the
newsgroups that will be sent to us (almost the full feed.)  Does such a method
exist, since all the control messages for group creation will be non-existant,
or I'm I going to have to do it manually, the first time through?

   Please reply, cc, to me directly, as I don't (yet) read this group.

      Thanks in advance,

         John Ring
         Ring@Juncol.Juniata.Edu
From: ssurguine@cudnvr.denver.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: NNTP & NEWS.EXE: INSTALLATION PROBLEMS
Date: 23 Jan 93 14:25:44 GMT

DAMN!! I'm still TRYING to Load this BEAST!! My Problems revolve around 2
points:  NNTP, and NEWS.EXE:

SYSTEM: Micro VAX running 5.4 : Multinet = TCP Protocol

1) I have configured nntp into Multinet as instructed in Chapter 14 of the DOCS
   Everything appears to be correct.  My problem is whenever I test the connxn
   via "telnet 128.180.200.30/port=119", My connection is rejected:

   For Example:

    telnet 128.180.200.30 119
    Trying 128.180.200.30 ...
    Connected to 128.180.200.30
    Escape character is '^]'.
    Connection closed by foreign host.

2)  My other problem revolves around NEWS.EXE.  When I run it I am prompted for
    my tcp protocol: DEFAULT = DECNET.  I enter multinet, or multinettcp. 
    Either attempt is rejected.  After looking at the source code, it appears
    the program wants 'multinettcp'.  Nonetheless when I enter this it just
    spits it back at me.

HELP!!!

Any Insight Here is most GREATLY appreciated!

Thanks,

Scott A. Surguine
From: kmoch@whscdp.whs.edu
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: skip/pointer vs skip/upto
Date: 25 Jan 93 23:20:16 CST
Organization: Washington HS, Milwaukee, WI

I'm using V6.1 and noticed in the help files that skip/pointer and skip/upto
are supposed to do the same thing.  Skip/pointer does what is described, but
skip/upto only marks the current item as read and moves the pointer to the
next item if there is one.  Is this a bug or is the help file wrong?  Seems
like the former.

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From: ophof@SERVER.uwindsor.ca (Scott Ophof)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: TIN interface suggestion.
Date: 21 Jan 1993 12:59:18 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


On 20 Jan 1993 08:36:35 GMT Iain.Lea@anl433.uucp said:
>Kent C. Brodie (kcb@post.its.mcw.edu) wrote:
>: I have the best interface suggestion of all.   Simply provide
>: the news manager with a include file (or config file, or whatever)
>: and let THAT PERSON decide how the key-mapping should be done.

>I am working on the rebindable key/function problem (albeit slowly).
>...
>Until the keymap code and tin are totally happy with one another
>there is no way they will be having a public outing together.

Iain & Steve, my fervent hope is that you both are implementing it
so that your utility can (without real difficulties) be used as
"front-end" for (virtually) any application (ie. not only tin).
And hoping even more that it will allow binding of a key to a
*sequence* of functions.
And hoping *still* more that it won't necessitate re-compilation by
the user (though *very* nice as extra!).

"Now I lay me down to sleep,
 Hoping for good news from Iain & Steve.."  ;-)


Regards!
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From: middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: tin Questions/Suggestions
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:48:26 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: poincare.ucsd.edu
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

[ Just want to say thanks to Tom for letting me use his account ]

westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) wrote:
:
: I just started using tin, and while I'm very impressed by it, I do
: have a few suggestions and questions:

Glad to hear it!

: 2) When i c)atch up inside of a newsgroup, I frequently ended up
: at the newsgroup level, but the screen would not re-draw.  I had to
: explicitly hit ctrl-l to re-draw.  I gather this might be a bug.
: This is on a SunOS 4.1 system.
 
This has been fixed in the upcoming release. I integrated the patch
that was posted to the net by Per Headland.

: 3) I was not able to deduce how I might be able to pass through
: multiple pages of posts, mark just those that interest me, and then
: read all of them at once.  How do you do this?  Thanks!

If using the most recent release (v1.1 PL8) you can:

1. Use the auto-selection feature (^K) to mark articles that interest
   you. Read the section in the manual page for more details.

2. Use the '.' command to mark articles & threads as selected and than
   reduce the number of articles to the selected articles by the 'X'

   command.



Iain
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: schwartz@ipx22 (Privataccount Roman Schwartz)
Subject: tin: ...subscriptions
Reply-To: schwartz@ppgfr.uucp
Organization: PPG Hellige GmbH, Freiburg, GERMANY
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:24:21 GMT

Hi there,
I liked to use the feature described in the tin manual, to make a file
/usr/lib/news/subscriptions. This makes aa automaticall subscription of
some newsgroups to new users of tin.
But how is the format in that file? We use NNTP, but I didn't find 
any NNTP LIST SUBSCRIPTIONS patch. 

Who to shoe the human newsreaders using tin, that there is one or more
new newsgroups?

Thanks in advance 

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From: ophof@SERVER.uwindsor.ca (Scott Ophof)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: FAQ's and how to get people to read them (Our answer)
Date: 21 Jan 1993 13:08:02 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


On 19 Jan 1993 17:54:47 GMT stefan@stefan.spn.com said:
>> In <1jd39dINNam1@huon.itd.adelaide.edu.au>
>> pharris@roseworthy.adelaide.edu.au (Paul Harris) writes:
>> >I think making it easier is a good approach, I am afraid I baulk at reading
>> >several parts of 1700 +lines. It is also sloww to access these large items.
>> >( I usually do not bother looking at items over about 50 lines. )
>> ]...[
>> Indeed.  I believe that the size of many FAQs it the problem.  On one of
>> the groups I subscribe to the FAQ is published full sized monthly.  This
>> is the FAQ that is pushed off to the archives.
>> In addition, a different portion is published weekly just to the news
>> group.  Makes it much easier for new folks to digest.

>Do you really think that it is asking too much to read a faq ONCE, even if
>it's a bit longer?

YES!  1700 lines is not "a bit longer" than 100...
It's not fair to simply assume that all people can remember all the
stuff all the time.  So why not reduce the retention requirements??


Regards.
$$\    F. Scott Ophof

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