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From: shelley@b30!b11.ingr.com (Shelley Read Heard)
Subject: Re: Bela Fleck and the Flecktones
Reply-To: shelley@heard.b30.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:43:51 GMT

In article <92344.164655JMCLAUGH@MIAMIU.BITNET>, <JMCLAUGH@MIAMIU.BITNET> writes:
|> I am a network novice, so forgive any glaring errors in my postsing but I don't
|>  think the Bela Fleck /Flecktones thread has refered to some of these albums:
|> Natural Bridge (his first album on Rounder, and essentially a Bluegrass album),
                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I think Bela's first Rounder album was  _Crossing The Tracks_.  I recall
that it has tunes like Chic Corea's _Spain_, _Cold and Frosty Morning_, and 
Earl Scruggs's _Dear Old Dixie_.  Russ Barrenburg, Sam Bush, Jerry Douglas, 
and others played on that project.  I first saw it in 1981, I think.
_Natural Bridge_ came out a year or so later.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: positron@leland.Stanford.EDU (Anjen Chen)
Subject: Re: Shawn Colvin in Seattle, 12/14/92
Organization: DSG, Stanford University 94305
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 20:30:36 GMT

well, after reading the account of SC in Seattle, I have to also
second the seconded recommendation.  She was just amazing, no superlatives
left out!  She was backed up by Larry Klein and Stuart (last name
escapes me now, due to too much work in lab), and as the poster from
Seattle noted, the sound was much more exciting than on her albums.  She
played most of the songs from "Fat City," and about half of the
songs from "Steady On," (most of those solo).  
Summary:  voice great, guitar playing also great.  Get the albums,
try to see live.  An energetic program.

I think I'm in love...

-anjen
-- 

"Have you considered stupidity?"             - Lucy Van Pelt
From: tenny@euclid.uucp (Nathan Tenny)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: The Great Selkie of Sule Skerrie
Date: 13 Dec 92 03:38:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: pith.1geb7lINNevl
Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Oregon
NNTP-Posting-Host: euclid.uoregon.edu


Does anyone have a working melody for this song?  There's one in the Viking
Press collection of ballads, but it's kind of clunky and obvious to my
ears.

Thanks

	NT
From: lcornel@eis.calstate.edu (Louis Cornelio)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Laura Nyro
Date: 19 Dec 92 22:37:49 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

Just found this thread & wanted to join in: I love her music! It was a
thrill to get her last live album a after such a long time with no music.
Can't wait for the next one!

Louis  lcornel@eis.calstate.edu
From: stegner_g@cubldr.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Laura Nyro
Date: 18 Dec 92 20:45:00 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <92353.134129U15289@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U15289@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
> Anybody know if _Mother's Spiritual_ is still available as a cutout tape,
> CD, or otherwise?  It was her last album for Columbia.
> 
>                                                   Mitch Pravatiner
>                                                   U15289@uicvm.uic.edu

You have to go to the right record shop to find it.  Regular commercial stores
normally don't carry her work, partially because they can't pigeonhole her into
a category, but largely because she's such an obscure artist.  Whether or not
Columbia is still renewing CD's of "Mother's Spiritual" I can't say.  Cutout
tapes could be found, but you have to hound it down in the cutout racks,
where tapes are almost never stored alphabetically.  Your best bet would be to
go to a used record/tape/CD shop - whether or not one exists in your area I
don't know.  Then you should be able to find a used record, CD or tape.

To clarify your last statement, it was the latest album she put out on
Columbia, but it won't be the last.  According to inside sources, The Goddess
is just finishing up an album of new songs in the making for years.  It'll be
coming out on Columbia (long-suffering supporters of Laura, huh? - even
Columbia's patience with Tom Scholz [Boston] doesn't compare), and release
should be sometime around spring or summer of '93.

Christmas in your souls...

Glen Stegner
Keeper of the Chinese Lamp
stegner_g@cubldr.colorado.edu
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From: rmura@world.std.com (Ron Mura)
Subject: Seeking Peter Himmelman Album
Organization: The World
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:03:41 GMT

I'm looking for Peter Himmelman's first album, called _This Father's
Day_.  I believe it was issued on a small (Minneapolis?) label.  Does
anyone know where I can get a copy or, failing that, have more
information on the label?

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- Ron Mura, Boston, Massachusetts              rmura@world.std.com
From: olson@husc9.Harvard.EDU (Charles Olson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Lyrics
Date: 18 Dec 92 01:34:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Dec17.203445.18643
Distribution: world
Organization: Spam-On-A-Rope Inc.

In article <BzFD9n.Kp@world.std.com>, jcf@world.std.com (Joseph C Fineman) writes:
|> bulger@ug.cs.dal.ca (Fred Bulger) writes:
|> 
|> >   I haven't been able to find the lyrics to these songs anywhere on the net,
|> >so I would greatly appreciate it if anybody could help me out :
|> 
|> >  "Galoway Races "   Irish folk song
|> 
|> "Galway Races" is No. 168 in _The Oxford Book of Light Verse_, edited
|> by W. H. Auden (Oxford U.P.; not to be confused with the more recent
|> book of similar title edited by Kingsley Amis).  Like many Irish
|> things, it is a little bit of paradise.  The first stanza is:

[..]

|> I have never heard or seen a tune for it.  If you know one, I'd be
|> much obliged.

Just as a reference, the Pogues included several verses of it in "Medley",
on the album _If I Should Fall From Grace With God_.

-- 
-Chip Olson. | olson@husc.harvard.edu | ceo@{gnu.ai,silver.lcs}.mit.edu 
"These are the days you might fill with laughter until you break. These days
you might feel a shaft of light make its way across your face... And when you 
do you'll know how it was meant to be..." -10,000 Maniacs, "These Are Days"
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: riordan@moose.uvm.edu (Gerard Riordan)
Subject: REQ: Seven Bridges Road
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 01:49:37 GMT

Greetings,


	 I am cross posting a request for any one of Steve Youngs versions
of the song Seven Bridges Road. I am interested in getting either the chords or
tab to this song. I know it was covered by the Eagles, Ian Tyson, Joan Baez, to
name a few.

	I am usually not the type to recommended any album to anyone but if
any one has never heard Steve Young or may have caught him some years ago, he
has a album out called "Steve Young/Solo" , some of the best song writting,
acoustic playing, vocally appealing stuff I have ever heard. Does some cover 
stuff of others as well as his own. The only place I was able to find the 
album was mail order from HEAR music. They are also carrying a 1969 release
on CD called "Rocksalt and Nails". Made overseas and alittle pricey, but well
worth it.

Thanks for any help with the song - Seven Bridges Road 

Jerry Riordan
riordan@moose.uvm.edu
From: symonds@kodak.com (F. Peter Symonds)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Bela Fleck and the Flecktones
Date: 15 Dec 92 12:38:39 GMT
Organization: Eastman Chemicals Company
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d13
X-XXDate: Tue, 15 Dec 92 12:41:55 GMT

FYI - Bela Fleck and the Flecktones are scheduled to appear on NPR's
Mountain Stage this coming weekend.  As they say -- check your local
listing.
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: freewill@carson.u.washington.edu (William Kaufman)
Subject: Shawn Colvin in Seattle, 12/14/92
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:47:47 GMT



Someone posted earlier about seeing Shawn Colvin perform and recommended
her highly. Well, I second it. The 1st of 2 Seattle shows was really
great; everyone in the audience seemed to agree as it was the loudest
standing ovation I've ever experienced at the Backstage. A solo artist
can perform some unique magic and she sure did. Don't know if it's a
vulnerability thing or all the attention focused on one person; maybe
when just one person sounds as "big" as she did (she did have her own 
sound guy applying generous vocal effects), it's pretty amazing. But
the songs are great, the voice is great and the guitar playing is the
same. She has really worked out some excellent tunings that don't
sound "drony", since she capos most (all?) of the time. The result is
that she sounds more exciting playing solo than on record with umpteen
tracks accompanying her. I'm sure there have been other musicians whose
recordings don't do them justice. My assumption is that she is at a
peak right now and performed exceptionally well on top of that.  freewill








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From: jmf@endor.harvard.edu ( ghost )
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Modes; was: Re: Reading music - book sought.
Date: 19 Dec 92 00:24:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: das.1992Dec19.002432.20909
Organization: DAS Purchasing, Harvard University

In article <BzH0v6.JnH@spss.com> bartley@spss.com (Dennis Bartley) writes:
>5 note scales are Pentatonic. Kesh jig es an example. 6 note is
>heptatonic. Can't remember the name of the heptatonic I learned this
>week. 

I know the terminology, but wanted to know which, if any,
of those named modes only allow 5 notes in their scale.  
Reason is that stuff I like as often gets labelled generically
'pentatonic' as 'modal'.
Thanks for the example.  All named examples welcome.
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: hjwulfso@unix.amherst.edu (Harris Wulfson)
Subject: Re: Bela Fleck and the Flecktones
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 21:01:45 GMT

The Flecktones are playing here tomorrow. Can't wait.

--
Harris Wulfson
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From: ugo@eng.umd.edu (Ugo Piomelli)
Subject: And the Band Played Waltzing Mathilda
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 19:55:03 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity von Uniland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Originator: ugo@maserati.eng.umd.edu


In article <1992Dec15.090627.13036@bsu-ucs>, 00rdharringt@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Rob Harrington) writes:
>
>Hmmmm if memory serves me correct the song is actually
>"And the band played Waltzing Mathilda"
>about Anzacs in WWI... 
>
>great song...
>
>Pogues do a version too!
>
>-- 
>/---------------------------------------v-------------------------------------\
>|  Rob Harrington                       |              Ball State University  |


There is a line I could never figure out.  Could anyone help?

Now those that were left, well we tried to survive
In a mad world of blood, death and fire
And for ten weary weeks I kept myself alive
Though around me the corpses piled higher
Then a big Turkish shell knocked me ass over head
And when I awoke in my hospital bed
I saw what it had done, and I wished I was dead
Never knew there were worse things than dying
For I'll go no more Waltzing Mathilda
All around the green bush far and near
... a man needs both legs
No more Waltzing Mathilda for me



Ugo

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Dept. of Mechanical Engineering	     I could skate away on
University of Maryland		     Because I made my baby say goodbye
College Park, MD 20742			         Joni Mitchell
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From: 00rdharringt@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Rob Harrington)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Makem & Clancy, Waltzing Mathilda
Date: 15 Dec 92 14:06:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Ball State University

In article <1992Dec15.094854.8168@teetot.acusd.edu>, jerry@teetot.acusd.edu (Jerry Stratton) writes:
> Okay, here's a lyric question for y'all. I've got an ancient Makem &
> Clancy tape; in the song 'Waltzing Mathilda' (which is not the standard
> Waltzing Mathilda previously posted), there's the following lines:
> 
> "Waltzing Mathilda, Waltzing Mathilda,
>  Who'll come a Waltzing Mathilda with me?
>  and their ghosts may be heard
>  as they march by the temenole,
>  who'll come a Waltzing Mathilda with me?"
> 
> Okay, what are they marching by? It sounds sort of like what I've
> written, but this poor American boy can't quite make out what they're
> saying.

Hmmmm if memory serves me correct the song is actually
"And the band played Waltzing Mathilda"
about Anzacs in WWI... 

> Jerry Stratton
> jerry@teetot.acusd.edu
> -----
> "And the young people ask, what are they marching for....
>  and I ask myself the same question.
>  And the band plays Waltzing Mathilda;
>  and the old men still answer the call
>  and year after year, the numbers get fewer...
>  someday no one will march there at all."
>                      -- Waltzing Mathilda
>                         Makem & Clancy

Ditto... see above...

great song...

Pogues do a version too!

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From: agauld@gssec.bt.co.uk (Alan Gauld)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,rec.folk-dancing,soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Adam Rennie [Scottish Dance music] info?
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:30:44 GMT
Organization: BT Glasgow Engineering Centre, Scotland.

In article <1992Dec10.064813.2295@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us>, dhw@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us (David West) writes:
> Can anyone tell me who Rennie was/is and when he was active?  
I believe Adam Rennie is still alive and still leading a Scottish Country
Dance band. 

Beyond that I know nothing, has anyone else heard of him recently?  How
prolific a composer is he? I wasn't aware that he wrote tunes. Or is this a
different Adam Rennie???

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From: dschatz@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dan Schatz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: David Wilcox
Date: 14 Dec 92 08:00:18 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Dec10.013322.19164@nysernet.org> alan@lpl.org (Alan Rowoth) writes:
>You can also order shirts and his impossible to get,
>cassette only, first release "Nightshift Watchman" thru the club.
	NIGHTSHIFT WATCHMAN was also released on LP and can probably still be
ordered in that format.  My understanding is that it is/was due to be released
on CD.
	The label that produced that record, by the way, is Song of the Wood, anexcellent independent label run by Jerry Reed Smith.  The album "Strayaway
Child," a collection of hammered dulcimer music, is wonderful.
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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,soc.culture.german
From: michael@chpc.utexas.edu (Michael Lemke)
Subject: "Ich armes welsches Teufli", was: Looking for German lyrics of "Die Gedanken Sind Frei"
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 00:02:37 GMT

In article <roh.724712738@gmd.de> roh@gmd.de (Peter Rohleder) writes:
>
>Here comes the whole text:
>
>        ---- Die Gedanken sind frei ----
>
[excellent quote of lyrics deleted]

As we are at it:  Can someone give me the lyrics for the 
canon `Ich armes welsches Teufli'?

Thank you very much,
Michael
-- 
Michael Lemke
Astronomy, UT Austin, Texas
(michael@io.as.utexas.edu or UTSPAN::UTADNX::IO::MICHAEL [SPAN])
From: David.T.Greenfield@dartmouth.edu (David T. Greenfield)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Stephen Foster
Date: 18 Dec 92 15:10:52 GMT
 <1992Dec16.202824.10781@sequent.com>  
 <0fA=8h_00iV4I1jhpc@andrew.cmu.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0b3@newshost.dartmouth.edu

Does anyone have a recommedation for a good bio on Stephen Foster?

Thanks.

David
david.t.greenfield@dartmouth.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: Lyrics wanted - Whiffenpoof Song
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:58:42 GMT

In article <1992Dec9.084008.27@pasadena-dc.bofa.com> franceschi@pasadena-dc.bofa.com writes:
>I have a 45 record of the Whiffenpoof song at home; it was
>originally a college drinking song, became a popular song
>in the military during the Second World War.

>You can probably hear it sung in the movie "Twelve O'clock High", in the
>bar scenes in the Officers Club. (An excellent movie, B&W, came out fairly
>soon after WW II, available in VCR rental stores)

>First verse starts:

>From the tables down at Morey's to the place where Louie dwells

Aha!!!!!!

Thats where the lines in Tom Lehrer's "Bright College Days" comes 
from!!!!

	To the tables down at Morries (wherever that may be)
	We'll drink a toast to all we love the best
	We'll sleep through the lectures, and cheat on all the exams
	And we'll pass, and be forgotten with the rest.




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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: jcf@world.std.com (Joseph C Fineman)
Subject: Re: Lyrics wanted - Whiffenpoof Song
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:06:14 GMT

ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:

>Aha!!!!!!

>Thats where the lines in Tom Lehrer's "Bright College Days" comes 
>from!!!!

Right.  But the chorus may be traced back as well as forward.  It is
taken, with slight alteration, from Rudyard Kipling's lugubrious poem
"Gentlemen-Rankers" about officers who have been busted to the ranks
in the British army:

We're poor little lambs who've lost our way,
  Baa! Baa! Baa!
We're little black sheep who've gone astray,
  Baa-aa-aa!
Gentlemen-rankers out on the spree,
Damned from here to Eternity,
God ha' mercy on such as we,
  Bah! Yah! Bah!



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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: jcf@world.std.com (Joseph C Fineman)
Subject: Re: Words to Songs
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:35:40 GMT

servant@cheshire.oxy.edu (Jedidiah Jon Palosaari) writes:

>Hello.  Was interested in getting ahold of a soft copy of the words to
>Where Have all the Flowers Gone

I do not have soft copy of the songs you mention, and they are both
widely available in print (e.g. in _Rise Up Singing_).  However, you
might be interested in having Pete Seeger's original version of "Where
Have All the Flowers Gone?", which is now rarely seen, and which is
short enough to be no trouble to type out:

Where have all the flowers gone,
	Long time passing?
Where have all the flowers gone,
	Long gone away?
Where have all the flowers gone?
The girls have picked them, every one.
Oh, when will you ever learn?
Oh, when will you ever learn?

Where have all the young girls gone,...?
They've taken husbands, every one.
Oh, when will you ever learn?...

Where have all the young men gone,...?
They're all in uniform.
Oh, when will we ever learn?...

The tune changes for the line "They're all in uniform"; it is just a
downward scale from mi to sol.

I gather that it was Joe Hickerson who first expanded this into a
meaningless cycle of posies, and that Seeger accepted the change.  Two
mistakes, IMHO.  The original version is a stylized, ironic dialog
between parent & child; in the expanded version the questions &
answers are disembodied.  Also, there is the subtlety of the change
from "you" to "we" in the last line.  The original says: war shows
that grownups are at least as foolish as children.  The expansion
says: life is one damn thing after another.  Both important truths, no
doubt; but in a song I would rather have the former.
-- 
        Joe Fineman             jcf@world.std.com
        239 Clinton Road        (617) 731-9190
        Brookline, MA 02146
From: nitsche@carson.u.washington.edu (Gregor Nitsche)
Subject: Re: Looking for German lyrics of "Die Gedanken Sind Frei"
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:38:43 GMT

In article <icking.724676872@gmd.de> icking@gmd.de (Werner Icking) writes:
>In <92352.151533U15289@uicvm.uic.edu> <U15289@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>
>>For some time, I've been trying to track down the original German lyrics of
>>the old university song, "Die Gedanken Sind Frei," [...]
>
>I try --- from memory:
>
> Die Gedanken sind frei,
> wer kann sie erraten.
> Sie fliegen vorbei,
> wie naechtliche Schatten.                       (ae = \"a = a-Umlaut)
> Kein Mensch kann sie wissen,
> kein Jaeger erschiessen:            (ae = ...)  (ss = sz = \"ss = Eszett)
> Es bleibet dabei,
should be: "mit Pulver und Blei".
> Die Gedanken sind frei.
>
The "Es bleibet dabei" belongs into the second verse:
Und sperrt man mich ein
In finstere Kerker
Das alles sind rein
vergebliche Werke  -- not a very good rhyme here :-)
Denn meine Gedanken
Zerreissen die Schranken
Es bleibet dabei:
Die Gedanken sind frei.
>Werner
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