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From: mattsq@microsoft.com (Matthew Squires)
Subject: Re: PenWindows Recognition Speed
Date: 03 Oct 92 23:19:05 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1992Oct3.015716.27160@iti.gov.sg> yklo@iti.gov.sg writes:
>Hi:
>
>I am currently using the PenWindows on the NCR3125 and on an
>average it takes about 3-4 secs for the machine to translate
>handwriting to digitized form.   Initially, I thought it was 
>because of the program that I've written, but the same speed
>goes for MS Word.   Could someone out there verify this?
>(I've only 4M on the RAM).

The default character recognizer for Windows for Pen Computing
is faster than real time, i.e. it has decided what you have
written by the time you finish writing the character.

Two things that can slow down recognition speed.

One, if your computer is swapping a lot, system performance
will suffer.  Adding more RAM will fix this.  The hard disk
on a 3125 is audible, you should be able to tell if it is
swapping a lot during recognition.

Two, if your timeout delay is set to 4 seconds, and you end
recognition by waiting for results, then there will always
be a delay of 4 seconds before you get recognition results.
The recognition timeout value can be adjusted by going to
the control panel, in either the "pen" or "handwriting"
applet (I forget which one).

Matt Squires
mattsq@microsoft.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
From: mattsq@microsoft.com (Matthew Squires)
Subject: Re: Microsoft Pen Windows
Date: 30 Sep 92 07:03:51 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <36123@twerp.ease.arco.com> cahuja@twerp.ease.arco.com (Chander Ahuja) writes:
>On a slightly different aspect of Pen Windows, what is the ability for the user
>to swap the recognition engine in Windows for a 3rd party one...(say CIC's).
>From the off the cuff comparisons, the Windows recognizer is not very good
>at all and if i was stuck with that recognizer, i'd rather give
>up the pentop except for critical stuff (drawing diagrams). Guess basically
>the question is, as an end user how does one (or can one) swap the recognition
>engine in Pen Windows for a half way decent one without having to depend
>upon Microsoft or manufacturer or ........
>
>-chander

Microsoft Windows For Pen Computing fully supports adding and
removing recognizers.  For example, the notebook app that ships
with pen windows machines includes a shape recognizer as well
as the default character recognizer.  The Windows SDK includes
sources to a sample recognizer that recognizes compass directions.
At '92 Windows World when Win4Pen was released, I saw at
least three other character recognizers, including a cursive
recognizer and a math/equation recognizer.

If you already have a "half way decent" recognizer that you
would like to use in W4PC, chapter 7 of the Windows for
Pen Computing Programmer's Reference, titled "Replacable
Components: Recognizers and Dictionaries", should explain
how to turn your recognizer into a W4PC recognizer DLL.

>PS>> along the same lines, how abouts GO....

From what I understand, PenPoint supports adding and removing
recognizers too.

Matt Squires
mattsq@microsoft.com
From: cahuja@twerp.ease.arco.com (Chander Ahuja)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
Subject: Re: Microsoft Pen Windows
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:43:35 GMT
Reply-To: cahuja@twerp.ease.arco.com (Chander Ahuja)
Distribution: world
Organization: Atlantic Richfield Company (ITRD), Dallas , TX



On a slightly different aspect of Pen Windows, what is the ability for the user
to swap the recognition engine in Windows for a 3rd party one...(say CIC's).
From the off the cuff comparisons, the Windows recognizer is not very good at all and if i was stuck with that recognizer, i'd rather give
up the pentop except for critical stuff (drawing diagrams). Guess basically
the question is, as an end user how does one (or can one) swap the recognition
engine in Pen Windows for a half way decent one without having to depend
upon Microsoft or manufacturer or ........

-chander
PS>> along the same lines, how abouts GO....

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
From: koziarz@chinet.chi.il.us (Louis Koziarz)
Subject: Re: Dylan? (Dylan FAQ)
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:49:08 GMT

There is also an article on Dylan in the October 1992 Dr. Dobb's Journal,
pp. 50-57.

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From: osg@aeglos.hanse.de (Oliver Giessler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
Subject: Re: Pen Macintosh
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 09:08:34 MET
Reply-To: osg@aeglos.hanse.de (Oliver Giessler)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <1992Sep29.185831.2489@gallant.apple.com> (comp.sys.pen), arno@apple.com (Arno Gourdol) writes:

|
|This said, would you find any use in a Desktop Pen Macintosh?
|

No, a Desktop Pen Macintosh (DPN) ist in my opinion not verry
usefull. I can write faster with my keyboard. A PowerPenBook could
be more usefull. Only the size of the screen, but full Macintosh
functionality. This should be the product between the "normal"
Desktop Mac and Newton. For word processing it should be possible
to add a keyboard in the way that it than looks like a PowerBook
as we know it now.

Oliver

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"Der Schwache stirbt taeglich mehrmals, der Mutige stirbt nur einmal
Giovanni Falcone 1938-1992
From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen,msen.events
Subject: complete liquidation of momenta / 14 Oct 1992, MT View CA
Date: 30 Sep 1992 15:50:50 -0400
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: nigel.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

electronic news, 28 sep 1992, p23 (the "auction" page) reports 

 Major Public Auction
 by order of
 Momenta Corporation
 subject to US Bankruptcy Court Approval

 Complete Liquidation of pen-based computer company, featuring

 Computers: Over 100 New and Demo Momenta State-of-the-art Pen-based
  Computers with Microsoft Windows for Pen Computing Software [...]

Weds, 14 Oct 1992, 10 AM, 295 N Bernardo Ave, MT View CA.

Call +1 800 445 DOVE for a free color brochure.

------------------------------------
this is not an ad for ROSS-DOVE, just to let you all know.

Reading the auction page is a very quick way to find out who's no longer
in the game.

Electronic News, ISSN 1061-6624, by Electronic News Publishing,
subscription phone # is +1 215 630 0951.

  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
        Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 998 4562


Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
From: yklo@iti.gov.sg (Lo Yoong Khong (SE))
Subject: PenWindows Recognition Speed
Reply-To: yklo@iti.gov.sg
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, S'pore
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 01:57:16 GMT

Hi:

I am currently using the PenWindows on the NCR3125 and on an average it takes about 3-4
secs for the machine to translate handwriting to digitized form.   Initially, I thought it was 
because of the program that I've written, but the same speed goes for MS Word.   Could
someone out there verify this?  (I've only 4M on the RAM).

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Email  : yklo@iti.gov.sg  or yoongkhong@itivax.bitnet
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From: rdavis@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: is ispell compilable on the 3b1?
Date: 26 Sep 92 07:55:22 GMT
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore

In article <1992Sep23.001222.9086@ceilidh.beartrack.com> dnichols@ceilidh.beartrack.com (Don Nichols (DoN.)) writes:
>
>	/usr/dict/words exists on v7 systems, and BSD, but not on the 3B1,
>or other SysV examples which I have encountered.  (This is not a definative
>sampling of SysV, so some *may* have it. :-)

Looks like time to re-install the hard disk containing V7 (actually more like  
a V7/System III hybrid) on one of my workstations and transfer that file
to the 3B1...

>2)	Rip one off from a nearby BSD system (like a friendly Sun). (I'm not

Or a friendly PERQ (the Sun's predecessor) running V7/Sys. III :-)

>	sure what the copyright status is on a spelling-checker dictionary
>	of alphabetically-sorted words.)
>

Anyone know if it would be legal for me to distribute this file?  Anyone
interested in a copy of it if I can get that that hard disk containing it
to boot?



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: frank@halcyon.com (Frank Higgins)
Subject: Thanks WorldBlazer problems
Keywords: Telebit WorldBlazer thanks problems
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 04:17:03 GMT


Thanks to Floyd Davidson and Dave Van Cleef for the ,M suggestion to solve
a WorldBlazer problem I was having. I could have thanked them (belatedly)
directly but there was one other person who also sent me the fix and I've
lost his name. Thanks to you too. Incidentally, although the ,M helped, and
I DID get a copy of the "scruffy" Rev. 2.00 from Telebit covering the same
thing, I STILL have to have &C2 in order to get into and out of the WB via
cu for setting/changing parameters of the configuration.

Since your help, I've had several HOURS of consultation from Telebit's
hotline and we haven't been able to soleve my remaining difficulty(ies) of
just getting a message to go out. It'll send one and then won't take a
second message right behind it to the same addressee without changing a
single parameter. Modem just sits there looking dumb. I've done everything
Telebit has told me to do. I've checked and rechecked. We've gone over the
config several times. We've checked and rechecked the Systems file, Devices
file and Dialers file.

Telebit hasn't given up - yet - but has anyone else gone through this
problem? Would appreciate ANY suggestions. Even naive ones might trigger a
line of thought that is productive. Thanks.

Frank        

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: cwr@crash.cts.com (Will Rose)
Subject: New old motherboards
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 28 Sep 92 06:16:55 PDT

I've been trying to contact dl@yenta about the partial motherboards
he was advertising, but mail bounces: could he please get in touch
with me at cwr@crash.cts.com if any are still available?

Thanks - Will
cwr@crash.cts.com
From: rhg@cpsolv.CPS.COM (Richard H. Gumpertz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: TEAC Combo 3.5 & 5.25 FD drive
Date: 7 Oct 92 03:10:58 GMT
Organization: Computer Problem Solving, Leawood, Kansas, USA

In article <1992Oct5.105449.10588@cbnewsi.cb.att.com> adh@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay) writes:
>In article <91099@rphroy.ph.gmr.com> rhaar@albert.cs.gmr.com writes:
>[]
>"     But *some* 1.44M 3.5" drives can be jumpered to operate 
>"like 720K drives.
>
>1.44M drives are DSQD 80TK; 720K 3.5" drives are SSQD 80TK, not DSDD
>80TK.

No, 720K 3.5" drives are DSDD 80TK.  They electrically match 360K 5.25"
drives exactly except for having 80 tracks instead of 40.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: hhc@athena.mit.edu (Hong-Hsiang Chen)
Subject: Voice Power stuff wanted
Keywords: voice power 3b1 software wanted
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 05:40:29 GMT

Does anybody out there have the Voice Power development software & is
willing to sell/copy for me?  I'm willing to trade it with other Voice
Power software: Answering Machine, etc. (I have versions 1.0-2.0).

I have a development set but it's pre-release 0.831.  

Please e-mail reply.  Thanks.



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: wouk@alumni.cs.colorado.edu (Arthur Wouk)
Subject: Re: problem installing an expansion rs232  port
Summary:  fixed
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:13:15 GMT


i fooled around and found, in /etc/ .rs232_00[1,2] and set them up as
they should be at then end of a proper install. when i next went to
install, i was told that the expansion drivers were not installed.

since the RS232 Expansion set 3.51 had been installed, i de-installed
it, and then re-installed it.

after that the installation when the right way. i can only conclude
that something was contaminated in the install programs when i moved
from os 3.51 to 3.51m (after the expansion set had been installed.)


anyone have any other suggestions?
-- 
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internet: wouk@alumni.cs.colorado.edu
From: kupiec@hp800.lasalle.edu (Bob Kupiec)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: a file on my machine..
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:25:31 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: LaSalle University, Philadelphia, PA

In <1992Sep30.140011.20092@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, jbunch@nyx.cs.du.edu writes:
>Howdy all,
>
>I have a bit of a problem..  I have this file in my home directory on my
>unixpc and I can't remove it.
>
>I tried rm -i clinton.* and it just said rm: clinton.t xt non-existent.

I thought it was Perot we couldn't get rid of.  Try: rm perot.*

(Sorry, it was just too tempting to pass up a reply on this! ;-)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: mulvey@world.std.com (Richard K Mulvey)
Subject: Emacs problem on 3b1
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:39:01 GMT

Hello!

   I recently purchased a 3B1 with system software 3.0 on it.  I downloaded
a copy of GNUEMACS from OSU, and installed it on my machine.  However,
whenever I attempt to execute emacs, it returns me to the shell with
the message 'Cannot open termcap database.'  I've set the TERMCAP
variable to /etc/termcap, but to no avail... does anyone have a pointer
or two as to what I need to do to get the editor running?

Thanks,
   - Rich


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: k2ph@dxis.att.com (Bob Schreibmaier)
Subject: osu-cis archive question
Organization: QRM Central, Kresgeville, PA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:26:12 GMT

This is probably going to be a touchy question, but...

Is there any way to get anonymous UUCP access to osu-cis
at Telebit PEP speeds?  I know there used to be a Telebit
access number, but then it went away.

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: cwr@crash.cts.com (Will Rose)
Subject: Re: silly questions re: Ethernet
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:52:32 PDT


: Don't short STARLAN!  I've seen many offers of Starlan boards for the
: 3b1 around $100.  There's only the version 1.0 software as far as I know,
: but it works!  AND, if you can land one of the IBM-PC-type Starlan boards
: you've got a pathway to the outside world.  Actually, I use mine to back
: up my PCXT's monster 10MB disk to my dual-75MB 3b1.  Of course, those
: disks don't get backed up (hey this is a hobby, remember!)
: 

I bought a 7300 STARLAN board with that very idea, but could never lay my
hands on the MSDOS end.  Does anyone have a source for DOS cards or
software?  Odd to find Unix cards more common than IBM PC cards.

Will
cwr@crash.cts.com

Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1,misc.forsale
From: mkawecki@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (michael.kawecki)
Subject: 7300's For Sale
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:23:25 GMT
Followup-To: poster

Selling two PC 7300's.

First PC: Works great, 2 Meg Ram, UNIX 3.51, 20 Meg HD, Extra Serial Port,
          Development Set, various manuals and documentation.

Second PC: Works but needs hard disk.

Extra stuff: (2) WD1010 controllers, (1) WD2010 controller, Extra Power Supply,

Must sell all of the above.  Best offer takes it.
Will discuss shipping arrangements.

Call Mike:  (908)-805-2496   (Somerset, NJ)
From: rhaar@albert.cs.gmr.com (Bob Haar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: TEAC Combo 3.5 & 5.25 FD drive
Date: 6 Oct 92 11:56:12 GMT
Reply-To: rhaar@albert.cs.gmr.com
Organization: G.M. Research and Environmental Staff

In article 2472@uts.cc.wayne.edu, rwilson@uts.cc.wayne.edu (Ron Wilson) writes:
|>In article <1992Oct5.105449.10588@cbnewsi.cb.att.com> adh@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay) writes:
|>>In article <91099@rphroy.ph.gmr.com> rhaar@albert.cs.gmr.com writes:
|>>[]
|>>"     But *some* 1.44M 3.5" drives can be jumpered to operate 
|>>"like 720K drives.
|>>
|>>1.44M drives are DSQD 80TK; 720K 3.5" drives are SSQD 80TK, not DSDD
|>>80TK.
|>
|>I just looked inside a 720K only 3.5" drive: There are 2 heads inside - one
|>for each side of the diskette.  When I dosconnected each head - only one
|>disconnected at a time - only half of the tracks on the disk were readable
|>(either the odd or the even numbered tracks depending on which head I
|>disconnected.
|>
|>This strongly implies that the 720K 3.5" drives ARE DSDD rather than SSQD.


And also, I have a bunch of 3.5" 720K floppies that are pre-formatted
for IBM PS/2's that all say "DS".


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DISCLAIMER: Unless indicated otherwise, everything in this note is
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From: krf1061@ultb.isc.rit.edu (K.R. Flanagan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Hanging on the boot problem...
Summary: fsck is bombing...
Keywords: oh $h!T
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:56:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: ultb.1992Sep30.145605.25917
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Originator: krf1061@ultb

This isn't one of the RTFF (read the faq) questions.
	I'm having one of those problems that looks like ones covered in the
  faqs but on closer inspection its not. My machine, an ATT 7300 with 1.5 meg, 
  a .5 meg on the mother board and 2 .5 meg cards along with a DOS73 card and
  a 40meg st251 drive is hanging up on boot up.
	So you say grab the FAQ and look for a corrupt inittab or utmp.lck file.
  Ahh heres the problem, I start though the instructions in the FAQ on this;
	# umount /dev/fp002
	# fsck -s /dev/rfp002
		BANG BOOM Sizzle FRY;
	The Fsck comes back like this;
		
		/dev/rfp002
		File System: Volume:
		
		** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes

		CAN NOT READ: BLK 2
		  CONTINUE?Y

		CAN NOT READ: BLK 2
		  CONTINUE?

	Any one see the problem, Or a way to get around this? Last time this 
 occurred (last summer) I rebuilt the harddrive from scratch... A great time 
 to find out your back ups are corrupt :) Also if I do have to reformat the
 hard drive how can I enter this block in the bad block table or reallocate
 it some way, the last time I had this problem it was the exact same block!!!
 Any and all reply's received by the weekend would be greatly appreciated, If
 I'm still clueless by then I'm reformatting (aaaargh...). Thanks in advance
 for any clues they would be appreciated.

			/nev/dull
			    Kevin Flanagan
			    krf1061@ultb.isc.rit.edu
			    krf1061@ritvax.isc.rit.edu

p.s. does any one have any 1.5 meg combo or 2 meg mem. boards that there willing to dispose of cheaply? 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: vlirner@prism.poly.edu (Vladimir Lirner)
Subject: DOS-73 board for sale
Organization: Polytechnic University, New York
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 08:48:14 GMT


I have a DOS-73 board for sale. It is in excellent condition and used it
for about 5-6 months. The board comes along with manuals and software
(system drivers and diagnostics disk). Also this board has a serial port
which accessible from dos environment as COM2: port. Loopback tester is also
enclosd.
Originaly I am asking $150 for the whole package, but it is negotiable.
I also would like to hear your offer.


If you are interested about it please write back. 
E-mail (internet): vlirner@prism.poly.edu

				Vladimir
From: steve@zero.com (Steve Urich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: test
Date: 5 Oct 92 06:06:41 GMT
Organization: Beyonet - Zero Network


	Testing distro problems please ignore.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: crtb@helix.nih.gov (Chuck Bacon)
Subject: Re: silly questions re: Ethernet
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:58:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.111020.12272@ohare.Chicago.COM> kls@ohare.Chicago.COM (Karl Swartz) writes:
>In article <1992Sep17.031729.22583@ceilidh.beartrack.com> dnichols@ceilidh.beartrack.com (Don Nichols (DoN.)) writes:

	[ stuff deleted ]

>>	Anyway, if you have other machines with ethernet, than the card is
>>well worthwile.  I wouldn't be without mine (except on a machine with the
>>Voice Power board alwo running. :-)
>
>While there are a few things I'd still wish for (a more modern TCP/IP
>with subnet masks and all-ones-broadcast plus a uucp that knew how to
>run over TCP/IP being tops on my list) it's been nice having both of
>my machines Ethernetted together.  The uucp problem, at least, may be
>fixed with Taylor 1.04, which supposedly will have TLI support.  Yes,
>I tried building Taylor 1.03 using the LOSE/TCP sockets but for some
>reason the socket() call to establish an outgoing call fails.  :-(
>
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>"Unix is a fractal thicket." (Mark Barnett)

Don't short STARLAN!  I've seen many offers of Starlan boards for the
3b1 around $100.  There's only the version 1.0 software as far as I know,
but it works!  AND, if you can land one of the IBM-PC-type Starlan boards
you've got a pathway to the outside world.  Actually, I use mine to back
up my PCXT's monster 10MB disk to my dual-75MB 3b1.  Of course, those
disks don't get backed up (hey this is a hobby, remember!)

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