From: schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck)
Subject: Re: PBS Special
Reply-To: Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:00:00 GMT

grant_jo@ripple.enet.dec.com (Joel Grant) writes:


>	In fact, JFK was turned significantly to the right.  See,
>	for instance, the photo on the cover of _The Day Kennedy
>	Was Shot_.  It was taken from above the limo though I am
>	not sure just when the photo was taken.  But it is the
>	same men in the same seats in the same limo in positions
>	very much like they were in when CE399 went through both
>	of them.

I'm glad you brought this up Joel. I missed the original post because
our newsfeed was down.

Joel has pointed out one of the biggest flaws in the 'magic' bullet
theory , although not deliberately. If you remember, JFK was
supposedly shot from the right. The entrance wound was claimed to be
the wound only 1.125 inches to the right of his spine. This bullet was
travelling right to left. The exit wound was at the midline or slightly
to the right of the midline of his throat [supposedly].

As Joel points out, JFK had his head turned to the right. The HSCA
says almost 60 degrees. Now, for a demo, turn your head 60 degrees to
the right, take your finger and place it on your windpipe at the
centre. Now turn your head back to the centre, letting your finger
stay where it started. See how far to the right it is. In fact, it's
almost the same distance from your windpipe as the entrance wound
supposedly was in JFK's spine.

What does this mean. If you line up the wounds, JFK was shot from
almost directly behind, about where the Dal-Tex Building is located,
and exactly where Donahue says the head shot came from if you ignore
his thesis of an SS man and extend the line.


>	1. First shot about frame 160.  Connally is seen to turn
>	to his right beginning at frame 169.  Linda Kay Willis
>	(the little girl visible on the south side of Elm, near
>	Houston) is seen to stop running after the limo, stop,
>	and look backward towards the general direction of the
>	TSBD.  Interestingly, in her WC testimony she does not
>	mention this movement, though it shows up very clearly
>	on the z-film.

Actually Joel, she does this starting at frame 189, exactly where
Thompson described her in the NOVA special.

>	2. Second shot frame 225. (!)  This is the one I have
>	trouble with, though they note that JFK's right hand
>	is not moving upwards between 224 and 225, it is moving
>	downwards.  However, I believe this movement is consistent
>	with his right elbow moving upwards. (try it; place your
>	elbow/arm as if waving, and then move your arm/elbow
>	upwards)  They also show there is a drastic change in
>	JFK's position between 225-226. (see, for instance,
>	"Life" magazine, 11/25/66)

What lunacy. JFK is not visible enough at 224 to track changes and he
doesn't change much from 225 to 226 at all.

>	Connally, who is turned slightly to his right in 225
>	is reacting already by 226.  His hat starts to come up
>	in reaction to the wound to his arm.  This "hat flip"
>	reaction lasts only a fraction of a second; they say the
>	hat is knocked out of Connally's hand by around frame
>	234-236.  This I did not believe, having always thought
>	that Connally's hat stayed in his hand well past the time
>	that anyone postulates him being hit, except for those who
>	think his wrist was hit separately, but that's another 
>	story.

Actually thats true. He has his hat in his hand as late as the time he
falls into Nellies lap. I think his wrist was hit by a separate bullet
or a JFK head fragment.


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