From: sergio@Ingres.COM (Sergio L Aponte)
Subject: Re: 1980 P.R. elections
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company, Alameda CA 94501
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Date: 9 Nov 92 21:49:01 GMT

Mario Alejandro Hidalgo (mh6i+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:
: In a recent posting I stated:
: 
: >While being Governor from 1976-1980, Carlos Romero Barcelo cheated in
: the 1980 elections and was re-elected. 
: 
: While someone answered:

	This someone been the famous Edelmerio, I believe...

: 
: >You are lying, and thus should susbstantiate your accusation with proof.
: 
: Here is the proof:

	Before we go into this, let me say that I am a PPD follower, and CAN'T
	STAND Barcelo, also can't believe we the people of P.R. elected him
	to ANYTHING!!

: 
: 1. On election day, 1980, Carlos Romero Barcelo gave his victory speech
: many hours before the official results came in, when the vote count was
: pretty much even.  Do you think he had a magic intuition that he was
: going to win???

	That happened here just last week. Before 50% of the precints
	closed Clinton "knew" he had won... This is more painfully obvious
	here in California, were by 5:PM most everybody knows who won...

	Does this mean Clinton cheated?

: 
: 2.  The official election results were not known for over 9 months (Yes,
: 9 months) after the election day.

	That is no proof of wrong doing, only burocracy in accion...

: 
: 3.  It is well known in Puerto Rico that many votes were trashed during
: that 9-month period.

	"Well known" does not qualify as "proof".

	It was well know at a time that the earth was flat, but was it?

: 
: 4.  After 9 months of waiting, the results given out were suspiciously
: close to one another.

	Interesting. It would seem the first results were correct?
	This is as much proof as of one side than the other...

: 
:    Also, Romero is thought to be behind a major government cover-up in
: the killing by police of two independentist supporters late in the
: 1970's while he was in his first term as governor.  (Ever see the movie
: "A Show of Force"?).

	But was never indicted. Found guilty? What does this have to do with
	the eleccion. This is another "well known" fact?

: 
: Anyone who knows anything about P.R. politics knows that Carlos Romero
: Barcelo is not a trustworthy person.  In the recent elections, he only
: won by 18000 votes, compared to the big margin for governor.  Many of

	Again, how does his margin proves that he cheated before?
	I agree with you in that I don't find him trustworthy, but
	apperantly 18,000 people found him MORE trustworthy than his
	oponent...

: the PNP supporters know that Romero cannot be trusted, so they voted for
: Antonio Colorado for Resident Commissioner.  That's why the margin was
: so slim.  Also, look for some differences of opinion between
: governor-elect Rossello and Romero, because many
: differences between them surfaced during the campaign.

	Yes, seems not 100% of the PNP was behind Barcelo. He still managed
	to get more votes than anybody else.

	Again, I agree I don't like him, I think he is guilty of a few
	sins, but you have not shown any proof. If actual, veridic proof
	existed, it would come up and he would be indicted for his crimes.
	If this proof exists, I hope it comes up to view and used properlly
	to rectify this shame.

	For now, Barcelo represents P.R. in Washington. God help us all!

: 

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