HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ohs@ring (Oh Hee Soo )
Subject: han.test
Organization: Korea Telecom. Researcher Center, Seoul, Korea
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 05:10:53 GMT

Xref: sparky alt.activism:21234 talk.environment:5669 ne.politics:3244
From: wish4408@elan.rowan.edu (MICHAEL WISHNICK)
Subject: Clinton/Gore E-mail?
Organization: Rowan College of New Jersey
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 19:40:22 GMT

COULD SOMEONE PLEASE SEND ME THE CLINTON/GORE E-MAIL ADDRESS!  I WOULD LIKE 
TO GET ON THE MAILING LIST..

THANKS 
MIKE
ROWAN COLLEGE
FORMERLY GLASSBORO STATE COLLEGE OF NJ..
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.usa.misc,talk.politics.misc
From: matt@cray.com (Matthew Marchese)
Subject: Re: CLINTON: The Majority of Americans Didn't Vote for Me, Anyway.
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 21 Jan 93 03:10:45 CST

In article <C13st9.14y@panix.com> jak@panix.com (Jack Krueger) writes:
>In <C13ACA.ED7@newsserver.technet.sg> ipser@solomon.technet.sg (Ed Ipser) writes:
>
>
>
>>Having found that the "changing circumstances" excuse for a record-breaking
>>breaking of campaign promises wasn't washing very well with the American
>>voter, Slick Willie's apologists in the media are offering a new explanation:
>>Namely, that a majority of Americans didn't vote for Slick Willie and his
>>various campaign promises, anyway, so he should feel free to dispose of them
>>as he pleases.
>
>>Is it any wonder Americans have become so cynical about politics?
>
>Any individual, no matter how obscure, who knows what being responsible 
>*is*, knows the distinction between a promise and a goal.
>
Trouble is, Clinton doesn't seem to know the difference and
neither does his staff. They've been scrambling to redefine his
promises as "goals" for a couple of weeks now. Where was this
loving, forgiving attitude when George said, "Read my Lips"?
This kind of mealy-mouthed grovelling to cynical politics
doesn't play too well after 12 years of acknowledged masters
of the art in the Oval Office.

>Clinton seems to know the distinction and there are many who have not 
>evolved, not even through the generous help of cyberspace.
>
Clinton seems to be willing to change his definition of promise at
the drop of a hat. It's his disingenuous rationalizing of his
backtracking that's so irksome, not the fact that he backs off
of campaign promises.


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From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Not a Boomer)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: Libertarians and Labor Unions
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:11:22 EST
Organization: ACME Products

In article <C1C0yv.MKB@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Timothy.J.Young@dartmouth.edu (Timothy J. Young) writes:
> In article <1993Jan23.021457.7705@midway.uchicago.edu>
> sals@florimel.uchicago.edu (red-head fancier) writes:
> 
>> Huh?? The Libertarian party is always underfunded and most of their money  
>> comes from individual donors.
> 
> Well, they'd have to have a good deal of money to regularly get on the
> ballot in all 50 states. In many states, it's hard to get on the ballot

	A) Volunteers.

	B) 50 states has only been achieved in 1980 and 92, I believe.

>... 
> In some ways, the fact that the Libs and Perot can break the two-party
> monopoly is good. I think it's possible that we in the U.S. could be
> moving toward a multi-party system.

	As long as we don't get a parliamentary system.  I'd hate to see the
"major" parties fighting over the nazi's 1 seat or the christian extremists 1
seat or the communists 1 seat in order to get a working majority.

>  As far as I know, and I haven't seen any stats on this, the
> Libertarian Party is comprised primarily of wealthy people who don't
> want the government to stop them from doing harmful things (e.g.
> environmental degradation) with their property.

	Untrue.  If you don't have the stats, why make that assumption?

Brett
________________________________________________________________________________
	"There's nothing so passionate as a vested interest disguised as an
intellectual conviction."  Sean O'Casey in _The White Plague_ by Frank Herbert.
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.society.anarchy,alt.society.revolution,alt.society,libertarian
From: darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Fred Rice)
Subject: Creation of alt.society.socialism
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 09:39:10 GMT

After talking to a few people, I think there is a need for a socialism
newsgroup -- alt.society.socialism.  What do others think?

Kind regards,

 Fred Rice
 darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
From: Harel Barzilai <harelb@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Date: 20 Jan 93 19:10 PST
Subject: CALL CLINTON 1/21 RE CUBA
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1296500486:000:1510
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!harelb    Jan 20 19:10:00 1993


/* Written  5:59 pm  Jan 18, 1993 by lang@igc.apc.org in igc:misc.activism. */
/* ---------- "CALL CLINTON 1/21 RE CUBA" ---------- */
/* Written  2:16 pm  Jan 18, 1993 by peacenet@igc.apc.org in igc:pn.alerts */
/* ---------- "CALL CLINTON 1/21 RE CUBA" ---------- */
From: <peacenet>
Subject: CALL CLINTON 1/21 RE CUBA

From commonground Mon Jan 18 06:10:05 1993
From: Merri Ansara <commonground>

THE CUBA INFORMATION PROJECT HAS ISSUED THE FOLLOWING CALL:

            NATIONWIDE PHONE-IN DAY ON THURSDAY, JANUARY 21
                 Call the White House Comment line at
                             202-456-1111

- End the economic and trade blockade against Cuba
- Lift all travel restrictions to Cuba
- Normalize diplomatic relations with our neighbor
- Close guantanamo naval base

During the presidential campaign, Clinton expressed support for the so-
called "Cubn Democracy Act".  This bill, which was approved by Congress
last September and was signed into law by Bush in October, is designed to
tighten the economic and trade blockade against Cuba.  As president,
Clinton will have the authority to decide how rigidly to enforce this law. 
As president, Clinton will have the authority to issue executive orders
which could end the blockade and lift travel restrictions to Cuba.  As
president, Clinton can take the steps necessary to finally bring sanity to
our nation's relations with Cuba.  

The Cuba Information project distributed this call for the National Network
on Cuba:  718-601-4751.  

Xref: sparky alt.activism:21323 alt.drugs:21377 talk.politics.drugs:8233 news.answers:5419
From: maxwell@deep-13.gizmo.com
Subject: Windy City Weedfest is May 8!
Keywords: Windy City Weedfest, IMI, rally.
Followup-To: talk.politics.drugs
Organization: Gizmonics Institute Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:34:00 GMT
Summary: Rally at Montrose Harbor, have fun.
Reply-To: mmonningh@igc.org
X-Posted-From: vango.fnal.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Announcing the 1993 Windy City Weedfest.

Sponsored by the Illinois Marijuana Initiative.

Saturday, May 8 1993 at High Noon.

Cricket Hill park at Montrose Harbor (Montrose and LSD)

Chicago Illinois.

This is just a preliminary announcement-- more details will follow in the next
few weeks-- but Mark Your Calendars Now!

Much fun will be had.

If you would like to help out, or if you just want some more information,
contact mrosing@igc.org or mmonningh@igc.org or call (708)859-0499.

Hemp-Hemp-Hooray.max
mmonningh@igc.org
IMI member.
From: ndallen@r-node.pci.on.ca (Nigel Allen)
Subject: Coal Mining Negotiations: UMWA Extends Contract for Four Top U.S. Coal Producers
Organization: Echo Beach, Toronto
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:32:55 GMT

Here is a press release from the United Mine Workers of America.

 UMWA Extends Contract for Four Top U.S. Coal Producers
 To: National and Business Desks, Labor Writer
 Contact: Jim Grossfeld of the United Mine Workers of America,
          202-842-7240; or
          Jim Strickland of the Independent Bituminous Coal
          Bargaining Alliance, 205-945-6580

   WASHINGTON, Jan. 25 -- With only one week remaining in 
the national contract between the United Mine Workers of
America (UMWA) and the nation's unionized coal operators, union
president Richard Trumka and representatives of four major U.S.  coal
producers have announced a 60-day extension of their current
agreements.
   The National Bituminous Coal Wage Agreement (NBCWA), set to expire
at 11:59 p.m. (EST) Feb. 1, will be extended for 60 days at Drummond
Co. Inc., Jim Walter Resources Inc., U.S. Steel Mining Co.  Inc., and
Westmoreland Coal Co., Trumka said.  The four coal producers together
comprise the Independent Bituminous Coal Bargaining Alliance (IBCBA).
   "The discussions between the UMWA and the IBCBA have been
constructive.  In that light it's in everyone's interest that the
current contract be extended as we continue our negotiations on a new
agreement," Trumka said.
   "Given that the UMWA and IBCBA are examining issues that have
never been addressed in any set of contract talks before, these
negotiations are taking a little longer to complete," Trumka said,
adding, "However, they are taking place in an atmosphere of good
faith with both sides committed to seeing this process through and
reaching an agreement that makes sense for both sides."
   Trumka added that the IBCBA "was formed out of the recognition
that both labor and management must redefine the traditional
relationship between workers and coal operators if American coal is
going to compete globally in the years to come."
   Trumka said that the 60-day contract extension applies only to the
affiliates of the IBCBA and does not affect other coal operators
currently bound to the NBCWA.  The IBCBA began talks on a new
national labor agreement with the UMWA on Oct. 5.
 -30-
-- 
Nigel Allen, Toronto, Ontario    ndallen@r-node.pci.on.ca
Xref: sparky alt.activism:21432 alt.activism.d:4561
From: GCTHORNE@idbsu.idbsu.edu (Broward Horne)
Subject:      Re: Privitization
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 17:18:27 MST
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From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.activism,alt.conspiracy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Privatization
Date: 24 Jan 93 01:19:16 GMT
>No one says the deficit doesn't matter.  What we've been arguing is
>for attacking the problems that are causing this particular deficit,
>rather than just have people recite the catchphrase "The deficit is
>bad" without any understanding what *makes* a deficit bad.  And not
>all deficits are bad.

          CHRIST!  You've shown me the light here, Ted.  Blame it
    on my upbringing.  I agree wholeheartedly.  We should concentrate
    on boosting the economy and worry about the deficit after every-
    thing's running right.

          In fact, I'm sending a letter to Clinton's e-mail address
     and his snail address, urging him to concentrate on his economic
     plan.  I'll forward a copy to this newsgroup.

          Here's a joke which changed my life.  Maybe you'll appreciate
     it...


      Poor man -  " Preacher, preacher, I got really big problems! "

      Preacher - " What kind of problems? "

      Poor man - " I owe the bank $10,000 dollars! "

      Preacher - " Well, I don't see the problem here "

      Poor man - " But it's DUE TOMORROW! "

      Preacher - " Son, son.  Don't worry.  It's not YOU that has
                   the problem.  It's the bank! "


      I need to keep the gravy train going for another 3 or 4 years.

      I can't believe I'm worried about convincing anyone to fix
      it!  It's not *me* that's got the problem.  I don't have any
      children!
From: pierce@CS.UCLA.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: Rocky Flats:Pollution Conspiracy
Date: 28 Jan 93 02:25:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:5sX1XB9w165w@nyxfer.uucp:-988243955:9301272144.AA00106@lanai.cs.ucla:1618238609:000:196
Nf-From: CS.UCLA.EDU!pierce    Jan 27 18:25:00 1993


From: pierce@CS.UCLA.EDU (Brad Pierce)
Subject: Re: Rocky Flats:Pollution Conspiracy

Please consider posting your article to the USENET newsgroup
"alt.conspiracy". Thank you.

-- Brad Pierce --
From: wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Nobody of Consequence)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: Turn Off Your TV: part 12
Date: 24 Jan 1993 21:59:21 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: doc.cc.utexas.edu

In article <C1C26K.E4@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Timothy.J.Young@dartmouth.edu (Timothy J. Young) writes:
]There were 11 other parts to this "TV as leftist propaganda" thing? Who
]is this guy anyway?

'Bout as amusing as the one who thinks TV is right-wing propaganda.


Subject: Patrick Chester            |Words to live by:
Age: NOYB                           |"Military action is important to the     
Address: A place                    |nation--it is the ground of death and     
Email:wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu    |life, the path of survival and destruction
Political Views: Somewhere in orbit |so it is important to examine it."-Sun Tzu
Blackmarks: Politically Incorrect   |Famous Last Words:                        
(hobbies)   Anime Otaku/Trekker     |--If you cut me down, I will only become
            Technocentric           |more powerful...  
            Netrekker (claypigeon)  |--Shhh!! There it is again....           
            Whole bunch of -isms    |--Use the bazooka to open the door...
     Won't remove Sun Tzu quote to  |--I cut the red wire...
     make the Greens happy ;)       |--I have a *very* bad feeling about this
-- 
<***** INSERT LAWSUIT DEFLECTION TEXT*****> 

I speak (type actually) for myself only. Even if I did decide to 
speak for UT, no one would listen. 

Flame away, I don't bleedin' care...
From: Ira M. Weinschel <IW9705A@auvm.american.edu>
Subject: REQ: Current Legislation?
Followup-To: alt.activism.d
Originator: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:59:54 GMT

Can anyone out there tell me if there is a source of information (preferably
free) accessible online that could tell me what legislation is currently being
considered by Congress?  I'm in a student environmental group in DC and it
would make my life a lot easier.  Thanks.

                                            IRA

Internet address: IW9705A.AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU

Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: Robert.Vienneau@launchpad.unc.edu (Robert Vienneau)
Subject: Test
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:28:10 GMT

Only a test. Do not bother reading.


--
   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
           internet:  laUNChpad.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80
From: harelb@math.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Date: 20 Jan 93 16:52 PST
Subject: Re: MAP/MIM: AI on Sendero Lumenoso (SL
Nf-ID: #R:9301202341.AA03342@poly.math.cor:2110577882:9301210049.AA03602@poly.math.cor:217864246:000:2101
Nf-From: math.cornell.edu!harelb    Jan 20 16:52:00 1993


From: harelb@math.cornell.edu (Harel Barzilai)
Subject: Re: MAP/MIM: AI on Sendero Lumenoso (SL)


Dear Hank,

To: pnews@igc.org
Subject: 
--text follows this line--

I ask that the four items posted to gen.socialism today, particularly
the AI excerps in the first, which I urge you to read, be forwarded to
the PNET.

Moreover, and after you're read the documentation: 
  
** The impetus behind Harel's [et al] decision to ban MIM from  
** further posting on M.A.P. (misc.activism.progressive) is MIM's  
** support for Shinning Path's alleged human rights abuses.  

No longer just "alleged"

Number two, there is not "paternalistic" who dicides "what is "left""
-- rather, as I worte in one of these gen.socialism posts/replies, "we
are, yes, "biased" -- against *any* cheer-leading for
systematic-murderous-repression"

** Harel accuses Shinning Path of human rights abuses against women. 

Number three, I didn't just "accuse of..abuses against women" in fact
*explicitly* I contracted "some human rights abuses" in my "reply to
MIM" (forwarde to pnet I hope) as "type (I)" with "systematic
murderous campaign..." or, type (II).

As you see the AI documention not only back that up, but shows how
much MIM can be trusted as they convenient reply to the Americas
Watch post in a way that PRETENDS that "10 women in 7 years" is
remotely, *remotely* representative of SL terror -- see the Amnesty
excerpt for the actual figures for the order of magnitude of SL
attrocities, and judge how much you trust MIM now.

**     "...Marxism leads us to Leninism and Leninism to Maoism. Of  
To which Marx replied...
** all these three, Maoism is principal. Moreover, Maoism leads us  
** to Gonzalo Thought, which is the universal truth specific to the  
** concrete reality of Peruvian society and specific to the concrete  
** conditions of the class struggle today." [From a speech given by  
** Guzman to the Central Committee of CPP] 

To which Marx replied "I am not a Marxist"

The rest of the trash hardly merits rebuttal.

Harel

##################################################################


Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: pciszek@nyx.cs.du.edu (Paul Ciszek)
Subject: Re: Libertarians and Labor Unions
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 15:30:09 GMT

dliebman@terapin.com (David Liebman) writes:

>In article <1993Jan16.174034.7296@netcom.com>, nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle)
>writes:
>>       If you're allowed to non-violently obstruct a business, you can
>>win.  Martin Luther King borrowed this tactic from the labor unions.
>>Operation Rescue uses it today.

>i was not aware that verbally and physically harassing abortion
>providers and clients and bombing clinics are considered nonviolent.

Why not?  These techniques are considered acceptable when used by labor
unions.  Well, not bombing per se, but shooting at scab bus drivers
while the bus is moving is almost as bad, IMHO.


Paul Ciszek                      When we are planning for posterity, we
                                 ought to remember that virtue is not
pciszek@nyx.cs.du.edu            hereditary.     --Thomas Paine
Xref: sparky alt.activism:21288 alt.politics.usa.misc:932 alt.politics.media:10
From: wish4408@elan.rowan.edu (MICHAEL WISHNICK)
Subject: SEND INAUGURAL SPEACH
Organization: Rowan College of New Jersey
Distribution: WORLD
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 19:44:49 GMT

DOES ANYONE HAVE A COPY OF THE INAUGURAL SPEECH THEY COULD SEND ME?
THANKS MIKE
Xref: sparky alt.activism:21233 talk.environment:5668 ne.politics:3243
From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Not a Boomer)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: Rush Myth #93{
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:20:57 EST
Followup-To: alt.pc
Organization: ACME Products

In article <21710@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>, ez012344@chip.ucdavis.edu writes:
> Rush Myth #930: His Audience is Individualistic, Attractive and Diverse
> 
>         As I watched Limbaugh's television audience blow two "applause 'n' 
> smile" cues I got a good laugh at the demographics as the camera panned across 
> the audience, who were trying to sneak looks at the monitors to see if they 
> could see themselves (in the fashion of drunk football fans at large arenas and 
> religious fundamentalists at large churches).
>         Male. White-bread.
>         Goofy white-bread.
>         Goofy glasses, goofy hair-cuts.
>         Dateless men.
>         Womenless men.
>         Women who look like goofy white-bread men.

	What a very un-PC thing to say!
:)

	Funny, but all of the audiences I've seen have included people from all
walks of life.
	And the last people I saw craning to see the monitor for their mug
shots were attending...the inaugural ball(s).  Where, btw, the clientel
definately was lily-white, dateless, and not-so-desperate (after 12 years).
	Unless, of course, you were at the designated "black" function.

Brett
________________________________________________________________________________
	"There's nothing so passionate as a vested interest disguised as an
intellectual conviction."  Sean O'Casey in _The White Plague_ by Frank Herbert.
From: Timothy.J.Young@dartmouth.edu (Timothy J. Young)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: Turn Off Your TV: part 12
Date: 24 Jan 93 00:47:07 GMT
 <21523@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

There were 11 other parts to this "TV as leftist propaganda" thing? Who
is this guy anyway?
From:  luda@irtysh.pavlodar.su (Truhina L.)
Subject: HELP! I do want to make contact with David Haburchak ("Eisenhower Army Medical Center", Fort Gordon, Georrgia, USA). What me did?
Reply-To: luda@irtysh.pavlodar.su
Organization: Irtysh-Relcom
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 14:40:25 -0330 

-- 
 "-Relcom" , .    |   E-mail : luda@irtysh.pavlodar.su
                     |   Phone  : (3182) 723580

		       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: smith@ctron.com (Lawrence C Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: Turn Off Your TV: part 13
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:42:10 GMT
Reply-To: smith@ctron.com
Organization: Cabletron Systems, Inc.

In article <239-PCNews-124beta@ccs.covici.com>, covici@ccs.covici.com (John Covici) writes:

>For more than 50 years now, parents have taken millions of their 
>young to see Walt Disney productions, believing them to be wholesome 
>representations of ``American values.'' All the while, they 
>have been subjecting their children and themselves to some of 
>the most vile and effective mass brainwashing in modern history. 
.
.
.
>         John Covici
>          covici@ccs.covici.com

John, you are a very sick puppy and your grasp of objective
reality is very, very weak.  All the while you rail about
irrationality and brainwashing while you, yourself, stand
as the first and most obvious victim of both.  You are a
sad, sad, excuse for a human being, lacking in even the most
basic intellective ability, lacking in emotion, and you're
certainly the worst revisionist I've seen since arf.  Your
grasp of history is the most pitiful, you obviously have no
idea where Disney adapted his material or why it was done
the way it was done.

Anyone for alt.trash?

Larry Smith (smith@ctron.com)  No, I don't speak for Cabletron.  Need you ask?
-
Liberty is not the freedom to do whatever we want,
it is the freedom to do whatever we are able.
From: bdellert@nic.gac.edu
Subject: Greenpeace KILLS baby seals
Followup-To: alt.activism.d
Originator: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:36:43 GMT

In the past month, 3 people have told me that Greenpeace sprayed baby seals  
with a dye, so trappers wouldn't kill them (their fur became useless).  But it  
turned out the dye was toxic and killed the baby seals.

**What the HELL!**  Is their any truth to this, or any idea where the story  
started?  Are there any references to it in the media?

Thanks,
Brian
--
"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he
 does not become a monster.  And when you look long into an abyss,
 the abyss also looks into you." -- Nietzsche