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From: ruslan@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Robin C. LaPasha)
Subject: Pece Atanasovski in NC!
Keywords: Sept 18-20, this weekend, Macedonian dance
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
Distribution: nc
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 03:40:39 GMT

			Folk Dance Workshop 
				with 
			Pece Atanasovski

Macedonia's greatest gajda player teaches dances from that region,
here in Carolina's Triangle area.

Friday Sept 18, 8pm, at Glen Eden Pilot Park, Raleigh - $5.

The Friday session in Raleigh is expected to have easier
dances.

Saturday Sept 19, 2-5pm, Edison Johnson Recreation Center, Durham - $5.

Sunday Sept 20, 1-4pm, Edison Johnson, Durham - $5.

People can email Judy at staff001@dukemc.mc.duke.edu, or
(voice) call Judy for more details/directions - 383-7172.
Bring clean dance shoes.  

Pece will be available for other things, like music lessons on gajda,
kaval, and tupan (especially BEFORE the workshops i.e. Thursday).

-- 
Robin LaPasha              |Keeper of the Amiga
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From: dalton@epoch.Geop.UBC.CA (David Dalton)
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: Re: Where is contra/folk dancing in Seattle/Vancouver?
Date: 9 Sep 92 23:31:09 GMT
	<1992Sep8.220847.5726@canada.ceo.dg.com>
Organization: Dept. of Geophysics & Astronomy, UBC, Vancouver, Canada

The Rogue Folk Club puts on monthly country dances at the W.I.S.E.
hall at 1882 Adanac in Vancouver.  Their number is 604-736-3022
although that is an answering machine.  The people at the
Acoustic Connection, 732-1305, would also know.  I think the 
dances are early in the month.  Also, there are
usually Irish Ceilis at the W.I.S.E. hall just after the middle of the
month but they may not start until October.
From: david@mobius.msri.org (David Mostardi)
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: Re: 5/4 Waltz
Date: 12 Sep 1992 00:44:35 GMT
Organization: Mathematical Sciences Research Institute, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: david@mobius.msri.org (David Mostardi)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.188.88

In article <1992Sep11.182338.1969@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> caldwell@astro.as.arizona.edu (Nelson Caldwell) writes:
>This change made it possible to waltz in the usual 3 step pattern.
>There is a very famous waltz *intentionally* written in 5/4:
>the second movement of Tchaikovsky's 6th Symphony.  He wrote
>that piece mostly to show off, but I wonder if anyone has figured
>out how to dance to it.  Anybody ever tried it?


The five-step waltz I've seen goes like this:
Couples in regular ballroom position.  This is
the man's step: the woman's would have L/R reversed:

  1   2   3   4   5   1   2   3   4   5

  L   R  hop  L  hop  R   L  hop  R  hop

and so on.  Such a waltz was in Westwind's New England suite
(that is, the San Francisco-based Westwind International Folk
Ensemble).

David

-- 
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Systems Administrator                     the cat is good-looking, 
MSRI, Berkeley CA          and all the theorems are above-average."
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
From: David Ruggiero <osiris@halcyon.com>
Subject: Re: Where is contra/folk dancing in Seattle/Vancouver?
Originator: osiris@halcyon.com
Reply-To: David Ruggiero <osiris@halcyon.com>
Organization: [none - why fight entropy?]
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:07:48 GMT

>bach@swe.uni-linz.ac.at (Bob Bach) writes:
>: 
>: I will be attending the Visual Languages workship in Seattle Sept. 15-18.
>: I arrive in Seattle late Sept. 13. and will go to Vancouver for a few
>: days after Sept. 18.
>: I would like to join in on some contra dancing or other folk dancing in
>: the evenings.

There are contras in Seattle both Monday and Thursday nights every
week (at the New Melody Tavern and the Ballard Eagles Halls,
respectively; both are in the phone book). In addition (are you ever in
luck!), Wild Asparagus is playing for a dance at the Trinity United Methodist
church at 8pm on Saturday the 18th. There are other Cajun/swing/tango events
going on that weekend, as well.

All of these dances are in the Ballard area of Seattle, just a few minutes'
drive north of downtown. You can always call the Seattle Folklore Society
(206.782.0505) for a recording of all that's going on in town during that time.

See you dancing....
-- 
David Ruggiero  (osiris@halcyon.com)      Seattle, WA
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
From: trb@ima.isc.com (Andrew Tannenbaum)
Subject: Re: remedial waltz (was Re: waltz: how fast is danceable?)
Organization: Interactive Systems, Cambridge, MA 02138-5302
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1992 23:50:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.191517.5046@walter.bellcore.com> spiegel@song.bellcore.com (Murray Spiegel) writes:
In article <1992Sep02.224241.4642@ima.isc.com>, trb@ima.isc.com (Andrew Tannenbaum) writes:

|> A balkan dancer dances for show also...

> I can take issue with this.  I recognize the dichotomy you're trying
> to set up between dance for show and dance for feel, but I don't think 
> all Balkan dancers dance only for show.   There are many times I get
> into dancing, even, or especially, just to let off a lot of steam.
> Do you think all of the people dancing at Hora Keff last week were
> dancing just for show?  No - they were having a great time and could'a
> cared less whether someone was watching them or whether they were
> retaining a long-standing tradition of the exact angle of Moshiko's 
> dance steps.   I'm sure you know what I mean.

You're right, Murray, I wasn't as careful as I should have been with my
comparison.  I intend to emphasize the aspect of feel in couple (like
Scandinavian) and contra dancing, not just "I feel like I'm having lots
of fun," not just "gee, I'm happy to be dancing with a fabulous babe,"
but the good physical feel of moving with your partner, the give and
take, the balance, the mutual kinesthetic thing.

I find this most prevalent in contra dancing, a bit less so in
Scandinavian dancing; it's a cultural thing, they look at each other's
shoulders while they dance!  In Scandinavian dancing, there's a matter
of technique to get in the way of the interaction, with contra dancing,
the motions are much more intuitive to the casual dancer, so they can
move on to the interactive flow with less time spent learning.

The interactive flow between couples is less common in Israeli or
international, where line dances and specific choreography are
emphasized.

But speaking of Moshiko, he's certainly a master choreographer and
teacher, and very precise about style, body, and foot position.  I have
an image of him teaching his Shatiach Parsi (Persian Carpet) dance
where it's all in the body attitude and foot motion - it's a feel
thing, but very different from the interaction of couple dancing.

	Andrew Tannenbaum   Interactive   Cambridge, MA   +1 617 661 7474
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
From: htr@world.std.com (Helena T Robinson)
Subject: Re: dance flyer/announcement
Summary: flyer hints
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 01:31:44 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.201047.493@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> pollansw@cse.fau.edu (Warren Pollans) writes (in part):
>We're trying to start a new contradance series here (Boca Raton,
>FL).  Our first dance is October 3rd.  My question has to do with
>stuff to put on the flyer.  We will have some experienced dancers
>coming from Miami (50 miles away).  A good portion of our "crowd"
>my be first timers.
>
>What should go on the flyer besides:
>
>Wear comfortable clothes and comfortable low-heeled shoes.
>All dances taught.
>Not necessary to come with a partner.
>Dance to live old-time music.
>American folk dance - contras, squares and waltzes.
>Obvious stuff: time, date, place, cost, directions/map

Looks like the basics are there!  You might want to add a contact name/phone 
number in case someone might want to call for more specific info (just a first 
name will do - some folks like to be able to ask for a particular person).

Since we've come to that time of year where dance groups (esp. WSD) are 
gearing up for fall, here are some more hints for flyers...

1. If you're not using computer-generated print, be sure it's neat and 
   legible.  If you are, beware of getting "font happy" - too many different 
   styles only confuses the reader.
2. Be sure all your information is accurate - especially dates!  Be extra 
   careful if your group lists dates that cover more than one calendar year.  
   You'd be surprised how many flyers I've seen that have printed (for 
   instance) Friday nights for the wrong year...
3. If you merely edit the previous season's flyer and include directions, take 
   a dry run and make sure the landmarks still exist or haven't changed names.  
   You might also want to check for any additional traffic lights or other 
   changes in highway patterns - especially if a major road might be under 
   construction/renovation.
4. Although brightly colored paper might help distinguish your flyer from 
   others, choose your paper with care.  Some folks like to duplicate flyers to 
   send to other dancers that might be interested in a particular group/event - 
   and some colors don't photocopy well (certain blues and esp. bright red 
   immediately come to mind).
5. Finally, here's something clubs in our area are beginning to do with more 
   regularity.  Consider inserting an "expiration date" at a bottom corner of 
   your flyer - "Expires xx/yy" or something to that effect.  Who wants to 
   get his/her hopes up for an event that already took place?

Good luck!
Helena Robinson
htr@world.std.com
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
From: spiegel@song.bellcore.com (Murray Spiegel)
Subject: Alternate (popular) music for IFD 
Keywords: IFD, alternates, halloween
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 14:28:28 GMT


I'm interested in gathering a list of popular songs that 
can be used as alternate music for International Folk Dances.
The alternates work because they have the right rhythm, tempo, 
phrasing, and "feel."  Good ones are pretty hard to come by.

Each year in my group I program Halloween night, 
saying "the music is in costume too," and use some old favorites.
Some examples, so you know what I'm talking about:

  Sweet Girl == A little help from my friends
  Ali Pasa == Take 5

A fun cross-dance-cultures one is:

  Hambo == Pundak Ha'ava (an Israeli folk dance)

I already know about Yves Moreaux's 3 cassettes of alternate Balkan music,
some of which is usable by mainstream groups.   
I am definitely NOT interested in alternate music for contras 
(of which there are clearly thousands) or other dance types, 
just International Folk Dances, please.

Some groups have developed a favorite or two - I'd appreciate hearing
about anything that people have tried.

Either post to the newsgroup, or send mail to me directly at
	spiegel@bellcore.com.   

Thank you very much!
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
From: jsivier@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jonathon Sivier )
Subject: Urbana Country Dancers' Fall Contra Schedule
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:08:31 GMT

   Here is the Urbana Country Dancers Contra Dance schedule for September,
October, November and December.  Our dances are held at the Leal School,
312 W. Oregon, Urbana, IL. at 8:00 p.m.

Day  Date	Band				Caller
---  ----	----				------
Sat  Sep 12	Bent Nickel*			Kath Tallichet*
Fri  Sep 18	Cradlerockers			Martha Tyner
Fri  Sep 25	Indian Creek Delta Boys		Tom Anderson

Fri  Oct 2	Peppermill String Band		Dave Cottle/Jonathan Sivier
Sat  Oct 10	Pat and Mark*			Michael Stiffman*
Fri  Oct 16	Cradlerockers			Aaron Weiss
Sat  Oct 17	Illinois All Night Dance in Mclean, IL
Fri  Oct 23	'Tater Patch*			Keith Berland
Fri  Oct 30	Indian Creek Delta Boys		Martha Tyner

**Tue  Nov 2	Coastbusters (Randy Miller)*	Lausanne Allen*
Fri  Nov 6	Peppermill String Band		Mark Richardson*
Sat  Nov 14	Critter du Jour*		local callers***
Fri  Nov 20	Cradlerockers			Martha Tyner

Fri  Dec 4	Peppermill String Band		Martha Tyner
Sat  Dec 12	Snakeroot			Eric Zorn*
Fri  Dec 18	Cradlerockers			Aaron Weiss

* All bands and callers are local except:
Bent Nickel - W. Lafayette, IN
Kath Tallichet - Louisville, KY
Patt and Mark - Chicago, IL
Michael Stiffman - Columbia, MO
Tater Patch - Danvers, IL
Randy Miller and Coastbusters with Lausanne Allen - New England
Mark Richardson - Bloomington, IN
Critter du Jour - Indianapolis, IN
Eric Zorn - Chicago, IL

** Special Election Night Dance, 7:30 - 10:30

*** In remembrance of Orace Johnson, local callers will call dances he composed

For more information contact:
	Jonathan Sivier - home: 359-8225  work: 244-1923

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From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: Advanced contra & square Dance in Columbus, OH: Kathy & Ron
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 06:49:54 GMT

The Big Scioty Barn Dance will be hosting an afternoon and evening of
advanced contras and squares in Columbus OH on November 7, '92.

The incomparable Kathy Anderson & Ron Buchanan will be calling 
with music by Uncle Gismo and Turkey in the Straw.

(I've never heard Ron call, but Kathy is the best there is.)

It is sugested that "you should ...at least have heard of contra
corners.  A solid year of dancing should qualify you."

2-3p Swing dance workshop with Scott Roberts
2-3p Round singing with Kathy
2-3p Shape note singing

3:15-5p Killer (but fun) squares with Ron, Kathy and the Turkeys

5-7p Dinner break (See you at Spagio for incredible pizza & other neat stuff)

7p-midnight Advanced contras & squares with Ron, Kathy, the Turkeys
            and the Uncle.

$12 for everything, $8 for the evening dance

Accomodations: Roberta (614) 237-4323 (As available, call early)

Info: (614)
Andi  258-1118
Fred  299-0651
Kathy 276-6315
Pat   881-5032
-- 
Kiran Wagle <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
From: schillinger@a1.mscf.upenn.edu (Don Schillinger)
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: RE: Israeli FD in Baltimore/D.C. area?
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:06:53 GMT
Followup-To: rec.folk-dancing
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


> I am planning on attending a conference at the end of October in 
> Baltimore, MD and am interested going folkdancing while I'm there.
> I will have access to a car, so the D.C. area is also acceptable.
>
> Can anyone provide me with the following information:
> - location(s)
> - evening of the week
> - contact name and phone number
> - typical size/level of the group

I forgot to include my e-mail addresses:

     schillinger@a1.mscf.upenn.edu
     don@cit.med.upenn.edu

Thanks.

               -- DON --
From: bradl@informix.com (Brad Levy)
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: Re: dance flyer/announcement
Date: 6 Sep 92 06:15:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

pollansw@cse.fau.edu (Warren Pollans) writes:

>We're trying to start a new contradance series here (Boca Raton,
>FL).  Our first dance is October 3rd.  My question has to do with
>stuff to put on the flyer.  We will have some experienced dancers
>coming from Miami (50 miles away).  A good portion of our "crowd"
>my be first timers.
>
>What should go on the flyer besides:
>
>Wear comfortable clothes and comfortable low-heeled shoes.
>All dances taught.
>Not necessary to come with a partner.
>Dance to live old-time music.
>American folk dance - contras, squares and waltzes.
>Obvious stuff: time, date, place, cost, directions/map

I think those are the essentials for the flyer, but you might want
to have a sheet like one local group (here in Kansas) has at the
door.  It is a brief description of what to expect, the layout
of the contra set, and other helpful notes that facilitate
B
The sheet also is useful for newcomers to take home with them, helping
them to sift out what they did, and reinforcing what they learned.

I've been trying to get around to cleaning up the sheet to give it to
several other callers. I'd be happy to send a copy to anyone who
asks.

- brad levy  (bradl@informix.com)

teaching (and understanding by those "just watching") at the dance.
and also
From: sandell@chowning.CNMAT.Berkeley.EDU (Gregory J. Sandell)
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: Re: dance flyer/announcement
Date: 7 Sep 1992 05:51:09 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: chowning.cnmat.berkeley.edu


> pollansw@cse.fau.edu (Warren Pollans) writes:
> 
> >What should go on the flyer besides:
> >
> >Wear comfortable clothes and comfortable low-heeled shoes.
> >All dances taught.
> >Not necessary to come with a partner.
> >Dance to live old-time music.
> >American folk dance - contras, squares and waltzes.
> >Obvious stuff: time, date, place, cost, directions/map

> - brad levy  (bradl@informix.com)

Sound pretty complete to me!  As a musician I have a reaction to the  
description of music as "old time."  To many people (or perhaps mostly to  
musicians) "Old-Time Music" designates a particular subset of the many  
kinds of music that appears at contra/square dances.  Since a lot of  
people who like to dance play folk music too, you might want to be more  
precise in your advertisement about what music can be heard at your  
dances.

An Old Timey band consists of fiddles and guitars, and often banjo,  
mandolin and/or double bass.  The repetoire is almost entirely  
southern-USA in origin, but excludes Irish, French Canadian, Cape Breton  
and New England tunes.  An example of a famous Old Time Band is the  
Tompkins County Horseflies.  You will never (except in the case of  
progressive extensions of the concept) see a piano, accordian, or dulcimer  
in this style music.

If your dance will include bands that feature the more "northern" styles  
mentioned above as well as Old Timey, you might want to say

    Dance to live Old-Timey, Irish and New England fiddle tunes

..or something like that.


--
Greg Sandell
Research Fellow, Center for New Music and Audio Technologies (CNMAT)
sandell@cnmat.cnmat.berkeley.edu
From: reid@sdd.hp.com (Bruce Reid)
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: Re: Zwie(ei)fache(r)
Date: 15 Sep 1992 20:25:16 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
Distribution: world
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In article <BuMGzI.1Bp@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress) writes:
|> 
|> The word "zwie" is a southern German variant of the high German "zwei" (= 2).
|> It is used in some idioms like "Zwieback" (bread, baked twice). 
|> Der Zwiefache, ein Zwiefacher, zwei Zwiefache, etc. comes from "zwei-fach"
|> = two-fold ("...know when to pivot and when to waltz...")

An old Austrian friend of mine always called Zwiefachers "two-timers" in
English.  Perhaps this is the best idiomatic translation.  I could never 
find out if there was any connection to the English phrase "two-timer"  
meaning an unfaithful lover.


 


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From: nmrdb@vms.macc.wisc.edu (BEVERLY SEAVEY)
Subject: Re: The Folk Process Lives On; or, They Don't Call 'Em "French Fries" in France...
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date:  9 SEP 92 09:37:35    

In article <16370@pitt.UUCP>, dan@codex.com (Dan Breslau) writes...

>While my wife and I were on vacation in Scotland a couple weeks ago, we went
>to a ceilidh in Orkney.  After some music performance, they started the
.
.
.
> 
>Oh, and the dance we'd never heard of?  They called it "The Boston Two-Step".
> 
>(now just watch... I'll bet all of you know it but us... :-)
Well Boston, Mass *is* named after Boston England... I just heard a tape of
a Jean Ritchie concert this weekend on the radio. When she was growing up in the
Appalacians, her mother occasionally worked as post-mistress for the area,
because she could read. Jean said once her mother came home all excited and said,
" Guess what?! There's a Boston in this country too!". So the play-party
dance-song, "Good bye girls, we're going to Boston"  must refer to the
Boston in ENgland!

  (--Beverly, born in Taunton, MA, not England)
From: sutin@helios.ucsc.edu (Brian Sutin)
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: Re: Alternate (popular) music for IFD
Date: 10 Sep 1992 20:57:07 GMT
Organization: Lick Observatory UCSC
NNTP-Posting-Host: helios.ucsc.edu
Keywords: IFD, alternates, halloween

In Santa Cruz, the Hambo is often done to the Steve Allen theme song, 
or the "Steve Allen Hambo" as it's called.  Once when I was in Mountain
View for Israeli dancing, I noticed that many of the tunes were syrtos
or coceks.  And you can always waltz to almost any Israeli couples dance.

For real strangeness, try the Texas two-step to almost anything in 4/4.

Brian Sutin				sutin@helios.ucsc.edu
Lick Observatory, UCSC			Santa Cruz, CA 95064
    Fred:   "May I rescue you?"
    Ginger: "No, thank you.  I prefer being in distress."
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From: rlw@IDA.ORG (Richard Wexelblat)
Subject: Re: 5/4 Waltz
Organization: IDA, Alexandria, VA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 12:26:05 GMT

5/4 waltz sounds to me like an oxymoron.  

(BTW: the word oxymoron is an oxymoron)
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From: gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress)
Subject: Re: Zwie(ei)fache(r)
Reply-To: gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:47:41 GMT

In article <photo.10@ccmail.orst.edu> photo@ccmail.orst.edu (Peter Freeman's  
Research Group) writes:
> Our dance list shows zwiefache, zweifache, and zwiefacher, I suppose, 
> depending upon who produced the record.  I don't know German, so I will bow 
> to the prior response on this.  They are fun to dance, though.  Just have to 
> know when to pivot and when to waltz.  
..someone's concerned about correct spelling...
I always flinch when people use the word "dosido" or get a hot dog in
"Der Wienerschnitzel".

The word "zwie" is a southern German variant of the high German "zwei" (= 2).
It is used in some idioms like "Zwieback" (bread, baked twice). 
Der Zwiefache, ein Zwiefacher, zwei Zwiefache, etc. comes from "zwei-fach"
= two-fold ("...know when to pivot and when to waltz...")
--
Gottfried Mayer-Kress
Center for Complex Systems Research, Department of Physics
3025 Beckman Institute, 405 N Mathews, Urbana, Il 61801
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