From: faruk@bcars6f5.BNR.CA (Faruk od Bosne)
Subject: Re: Merry Christmas, Argic
Summary: A fool wishing a Moslem Turk Merry Christmas, believes a revisionist 
Reply-To: faruk@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Canada
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 22:17:44 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.224612.5721@bmerh85.bnr.ca> faruk@bcars6f5.BNR.CA (Faruk
od Bosne) wrote:

[F] I would like to extend my thanks to Serdar Argic in revealing us the truth 
[F] about the events in Turkey during WW1. Before reading his articles I have 
[F] suspected (altough never believed) that Turks massacred Armenians during 
[F] a campaign of defending the very existance of their homeland. His thorough 
[F] documentation showed that Armenians were in fact massacreing Turks in 
[F] unprotected villages while Turkish Army was busy defending the country. 
[F] However, for some people the truth seems to be very painful. As the case 
[F] is, Serdar, this (desperation?) is their problem, not yours. Thanks again 
[F] and keep up good work. May I extend very best wishes in upcoming year.

>You sir, were fooled. I personally refuted every bit of his revisionism,
>exposed every one of his omissions, deletions, etc. I guess you never bothered
>to read them, or for that matter, I never bothered to post them to
soc.culture.
>croatia. Well, sir, it's not surprising you were fooled so easily, since you
>wished "Merry Christmas" to a Moslem Turk!

First of all I am not discriminating people by religion or nationality. 
Second I didn't wish "Merry Christmas" to anybody. What you see in a subject 
header is Re to someone else. So my advise to you is to read the article
before jumping to conclusion.

A. >"However, upon the breaking out of the World War the massacres
recommenced with
> such violence that, of the two and a half million Armenians that lived in 
> Turkey before 1914, I believe not even one half million remain, including the
> three to four hundred thousand who dwelt in Constantinople and Smyrna, and 
> who, by means of I know not what miracle, escaped the deportation and 
> lived." [1]

>             -- Inspector General of the Turkish Forces in Armenia,
Nogalas Bey
>
>				 - - - reference - - -

>[1] _Four Years Beneath the Crescent_ Rafael De Nogalas, Inspector General of
>    Turkish Forces in Armenia and Military Governor of Egyptian Sinai During 
>    the War, Translated from the Spanish by Muna Lee, Charles Scribner's Sons,
>    New York, London, 1926, page 17


-- 
>David Davidian <dbd@urartu.sdpa.org>  |B."The Regular Army of the
Ottomans was 
>SDPA Center for Regional Studies      |   entirely innocent of the Armenian 
>P.O. Box 382761                       |   massacres." - Inspector General of 
>Cambridge, MA 02238                   |   the Turkish forces in Armenia, WWI 

Aren't your own two quotes A. and B. conflicting? Serdar most of the time
quotes relevant sources without introducing his personality. Comparing his
sources with yours, the only explanation I can come up with is that at the
begining of the WW1 when Turkey was attacked from outside, Armenians committed
genocide over unprotected Turkish population massacreing (as Serdar said)
2.5 millions Turks. When the Turks gained back the control they retaliated.
Therefore I do not see the parallel between serbs who instigated a conflict
in Bosnia and Turks who were, at that time, defending their country. 	

Faruk.