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From: 34AEJ7D@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu (Bill Gorman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: NRA Disabled Shooter Services
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:18:14 GMT
Reply-To: 34AEJ7D@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu (Bill Gorman)
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25437

For those who may find it of interest, the NRA has services
available for the disabled hunter/shooter. For information, call:

Mr. Dave Baskin,
NRA Consultant
Disabled Shooter Services
(215) 379-2359

You can verify this by calling the NRA at its main number, (202) 828-6000.

W. K. Gorman   <bj496@Cleveland.Freenet.Edu>
From: Carol.Ashland@p0.f319.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Ashland)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: bluewave!
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:38:07 GMT
Reply-To: Carol.Ashland@p0.f319.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/319.0 - Mostly Mail, Aloha OR
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25458

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 GP> Shhhh.  Don't let the various gov't agencies hear that, then they
 GP> won't spend money needlessly.  <grin>

 I used to work for a government agency.  They were always looking for
 the least expensive option to buy for clients.  Unfortunately, the
 agencies are not usually exposed to programs like TinyTalk.  I would
 have been happy to recommend it had I known about it - and known that
 it would work in the situation for which the client needed it.  Some
 of the "spending money needlessly" is due to the fact that the bigger
 companies are the ones that the personnel in the rehab agencies see.

 Carol
 ex-rehab teacher

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From: Jennifer.Satterwhite@f8018.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Jennifer Satterwhite)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Education
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:07:04 GMT
Reply-To: Jennifer.Satterwhite@f8018.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/8018 - The Ratiocination B, Carrolton TX
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25487

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Howdy All!

I was just wondering if I could pick your brains for a while. <grin>

I would really like to get some opinions on some educational
philosophies that I am learning.  It is very easy to get swayed one
way or another unless you have a variety of opinions.  What so you
think about
1) Oralism
2) Total Communication
3) Bilingual/Bicultural?

I can form my own opinions, but I am hearing and I haven't been in
the situation.  So, I can't very well make an education opinion
about any of them (unless I want to rely on what the "researchers"
say --which I do not!)

So, I would appreciate any feedback on any of these.  Even just a
brief little comment would help me.

Thanks!!

Jenn

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From: Bill.Koppelmann@p0.f809.n104.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Koppelmann)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: chattin'
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:39:34 GMT
Reply-To: Bill.Koppelmann@p0.f809.n104.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/809.0 - Fantasy Mountain, Golden CO
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25469

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 JD> bit taxing and novel, it will become so second nature in no time that
 JD> you'll think you've had your pooch for years!
 JD> It goes by very fast as well.  It seems like just last year that Joy
 JD> first came home, but she just turned four a couple of weeks ago.
Wow, the time sure must go by mighty fast if you can say that.
My interesting challenge now is my housemate's cat.  Both animals are
testing the waters now, and it's gonna be interesting to see who wins.

By the way, did you hear that Seeing Eye has done some updating of
their building?  Yes, theysure have, and they are really making it
look nice.

                        Bolder bill

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From: Phillip@hikssrv.lib.purdue.edu (Phillip White)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: UNIX breakthrough
Date: 12 Nov 92 02:47:31 GMT
Reply-To: Phillip@hikssrv.lib.purdue.edu (Phillip White)
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25556

Great news everyone, I was able to track down a solution for the
Unix environment.  It is still in the developmental stages, but
Dr.  Ephraim Glinert of RPI (Troy, New York) has been working on a
software solution to enlarging the unix-based graphical user
interface.  (NSF is funding this work (good work!!!!), so I have
cc's for those of you working with and for NSF who also helped me
track down this information.)

He has been given the addresses of EASI member (especially Dr.
Norman Coombs and Dr. Harry Murphy).  I encouraged him to write
EASI about his work since so many of us could use a solution on the
unix platform.  I hope he is able to make a presentation at the
next CSUN convention as well!

Again thank you all for your help in this research.  I have over
twenty or so notes which contain your suggestions and comments.
Dr. Glinert will speak for himself and his work, but I an thankful
someone has been diligently working on this major problem.  (Now
someone needs to tackle the speech-synthesis output solution for
these machines.)

Thanks again for all your help in this matter!

Phillip White
Alps Program Specialist
Purdue University
phillip@hikssrv.lib.purdue.edu
From: joep@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Joe Pizzirusso)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Guide dogs - is this normal?
Keywords: woof....
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:57:10 GMT
Reply-To: joep@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Joe Pizzirusso)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25503

> I thought it was REAL strange, and potentially dangerous. I got

very dangerous...i had a bad moment this morning. Misty, my
Rottie/shepherd mix was home with me. I thought i try to see how
she was off lead going to the car..  she's been iffy now and then
sometimes running off.  I tried to keep her focused, but then she
spotted a squirrel and was off...  after it got away she decided
while she was free to visit some neighbors, and ran into our
(luckily non-busy) street. not a lot of fun...  back to work on
this one...

> a note or two from guide dog users who all said their dogs
> would not come reliably when called when "out of uniform".

i'm far from an expert at this stuff...only been at it for a year
or so, but it seems to be a problem with either the training or the
dogs selected, but i'm not in any position to criticise....
Luckily, both my collies, my golden, and a number of the other dogs
we've placed were the type that wanted to be right next to you at
all times...leash or no leash...  Happy, our greyhound was the most
amazing at this... hmm...i seem to be suffereing from proud-daddy
syndrome...sorry...back to the point.

> Geez, what happens if some circumstance causes a GDU to
> become dogless in a dangerous environment?

bad news...they're gonna need some help.

> With the PETA and ALF
> terrorists around, I could see a dog being forcibly "freed" in an
> urban environment.

i've been out of the loop on this one...i've heard about this, but
never heard any confirmation of this ever happening. Has it? how
prevelent is this?  How real is the threat?  I've talked with some
serious animal rights folks, and none considered this life to be
slavery for the dog...  i won't get started on why i think these
dogs are more lucky and more loved and cared for than any other
dogs...

> Or maybe I'm just paranoid and suspicious.  :-)

nah...just healthy and cautious...its a weird world out there...

Would it be out of line for a person to train or get help training
their dog on improving its recalls? sounds like the solution, plus
a note to all recipients to insist that their pup has solid
recalls...

well..i've gotten long winded enough for now....

later...

joe
From: 34AEJ7D@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu (Bill Gorman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Guide dogs - is this normal?
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:27:07 GMT
Reply-To: 34AEJ7D@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu (Bill Gorman)
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25438

In article <25397@handicap.news>, joep@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com
(Joe Pizzirusso) says:
>Index Number: 25397
>
>AACK!
>
>This sounds very weird. I train wheelchair service dogs. We don't
>demand as much from a dog when they're out of harness...they're
>sorta off duty. They can get away with more, BUT we insist and work
>hard to make sure they can be recalled by voice at ALL times....
>...
>sounds odd...
>

I thought it was REAL strange, and potentially dangerous. I got
a note or two from guide dog users who all said their dogs
would not come reliably when called when "out of uniform".
Geez, what happens if some circumstance causes a GDU to
become dogless in a dangerous environment? With the PETA and ALF
terrorists around, I could see a dog being forcibly "freed" in an
urban environment. What's to do if the dog is loose but
won't come when called?

Or maybe I'm just paranoid and suspicious.  :-)

W. K. (Bill) Gorman
From: Les.Kriegler@f207.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Les Kriegler)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Help needed for the Macintosh
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:05:32 GMT
Reply-To: Les.Kriegler@f207.n260.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/207 - The Recovery Room, Rochester NY
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25477

A friend who is new to computers must learn the Macintosh
environment for her job.  She has acquired OutSpoken, but is having
difficulty in understanding and learning the product.  Any
suggestions regarding resources and organizations that she might
contact for assistance would be appreciated.  Any comments on the
product itself, both pro and con would be helpful as well.

 Thank you.  Les

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From: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com (Bill McGarry)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: October and November issues of Braille Form uploaded
Date: 5 Nov 92 03:58:06 GMT
Reply-To: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com (Bill McGarry)
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Fidonet:    The Handicap News BBS (141/420)   1-203-337-1607
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25434

The following have been uploaded to the Handicap News archives:

BF1092.ZIP      Braille Forum, October 1992
BF1192.ZIP      Braille Forum, November 1992

Directory: /pub/forum

Issues of the Braille Forum for the past two years or so are
also available here.

Table of contents for the October issue:

President's Message
Bush and Clinton Speak on Disability Issues
News Briefs from the ACB National Office
ACB 31st Convention Summary
ACB Members Elected to Directors and Publications Board
Positions
Looking Forward to ACB's 32nd Convention
Warnings:  Inaction May be Hazardous
New ACB Position Available
ACB Awards Announced
Thirty Years Ago in the "Forum"
Here and There
High Tech Swap Shop
ACB Board of Directors and Board of Publications

Table of contents for the November issue:

President's Message:  Preparing For The Challenges Ahead
News Briefs From The ACB National Office
Congress Passes Reauthorization Of Rehabilitation Act
Highlights Of A Russian Visit
Braille Literacy Week Resolution
Board Elects Budget Committee, Approves Mid-Year Meeting Schedule Make Plans
Now For Mid-Year Meetings
These Talking Toys Can Help You Create A Novel Holiday Season From Her Heart To
Your Mailbox
Affiliate News Roundup
A Multi-Media Approach to Braille Literacy
Here  and    There
High Tech Swap Shop

This file is available via anonmous ftp from the Handicap News
archives, "handicap.shel.isc-br.com" (ip address of 129.189.4.184).
Login in "anonymous" using your e-mail address as your password.
Type in the command "binary" or files transferred will be corrupted.
"cd" to the appropriate directory and do a "get" of the file.
This is also available via dial-up from the Handicap News BBS
(1-203-337-1607) or by file request on Fidonet (1:141/420).

                                Bill McGarry
                                (203) 337-1518

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From: Phil.Scovell@p0.f810.n104.z1.fidonet.org (Phil Scovell)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Cw Magazine
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:36:59 GMT
Reply-To: Phil.Scovell@p0.f810.n104.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/810.0 - Electronic Library, Denver CO
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25450

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Debbie,

CW Magazine stands for Continuous Wave.  It's a new little recorded talking
magazine I'm trying by and for blind hams or anyone interested in the hobby.
 The subscribers make the magazine work by recording things in their areas
of interest and I edit the recordings to make a single monthly tape.
October was the first issue.  It wasn't very good because I got stuck doing
most of the talking the first time around but I've gotten several recordings
back so far so the November issue will be more of others talking rather than
me, haw.  I know you've been interested in the hobby, and by the way, I have
a study book with questions/answers in Braille if you are interested in
getting the no code license.  Steve Gomes had it Brailled recently and just
got his license about three months ago.  Our ham club put the test in
Braille for him and he passed with flying colors.  It's fun to be able to
talk with him every day on the radio now.
If you wish to listen to the first tape, give me your address.
It's free and there are no subscription fees.  Shoot,  now I'll never get
rich off the blind.

Phil.

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From: Dan.Dunfee@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Dan Dunfee)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Treehouses
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:40:06 GMT
Reply-To: Dan.Dunfee@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25473

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

PHIL.

 PS> Dan,

 PS> I am forty years old and lost my sight due to detatched
 PS> rettinas when I was eleven.  After going to the school for the
 PS> blind, I of course made friends with several blind kids who had
 PS> never seen.  I found some with difficulties in preseptional
 PS> things such as shape and the like while others had no such
 PS> inabilities to comprehend.  My wife has been blind since birth.
 PS>  She too has no such problems but, as you described in your
 PS>  message concerning driving nails, has a natural built in
 PS>  something or another which allows her that type of sixth
 PS>  scense.  What I have noticed is that it depends on the blind
 PS>  persons childhood and how the parents allowed them to function
 PS>  as a normal person but just without sight.  In ever case I
 PS>  found at the school for the blind, those blind kids who had
 PS>  what you were talking about had parents who allowed them full
 PS>  access to everything around them and even helped them with
 PS>  whatever they wanted to try.  My wife, for example, was raised

 THIS SUGGESTS THAT WE ALL HAVE AN INHERENT CAPACITY TO STORE AND UTILIZE
 INFORMATION IN THE BRAIN TO OPERATE IN OUR ENVIRONMENTS. WITHOUT SIGHT,
 THIS INFORMATION IS INPUT BY THE OTHER SENCES BUT IS USED BY THE BRAIN
 IN A SIMILAR FASHION. THOSE KIDS WHO WERE NOT PERMITTED TO EXPLORE DID
 NOT GET THE INFORMATION NOR DEVELOPE THE COGNITIVE PROCESSES TO USE IT.

 PS>  course, but I my point.  How long have you been blind?

    I HAVE RP, WHICH AS YOU MIGHT KNOW IS PROGRESSIVE SO THAT IT IS
 DIFFICULT TO PICK A TIME WHEN I BECAME BLIND. HOWEVER I HAVE BEEN
 WITHOUT THE PRACTICLE USE OF SIGHT FOR ABOUT 8 YEARS.
    THIS BRINGS UP THE SUBJECT  [FORGIVE ME WILLIE IF I BRING UP A TOPIC
 WHICH HAS BEEN BEATEN TO DEATH BEFORE IN BLINKTALK! ] ABOUT THE ADAPTIVE
 AND PSYCHOLOGICAL PRO AND CONS OF LOSING SIGHT PROGRESSIVILY OR AT ONE TIME.
 FOR ME, I WAS ABLE TO GRADUALLY LEARN ADAPTIVE SKILLS WHICH IS PERHAPS
 OF BENIFIT WHEN LOSING ONE'S SIGHT.  ON THE OTHER HAND IT WAS
 PSYCHOLOGICALLY WRENCHING BECAUSE IT WAS ALSO A LOSS OF THINGS WHICH I HAD
 TAKEN FOR GRANTED BEFORE.  THUS, ONE AT A TIME I HAD TO GO THROUGH THE
 LOSS AND GRIEF PROCESS TIME AND AGAIN AS I LOST THE ABILITY TO DRIVE,
 READ, DO CERTAIN HOBBIES APPRECIATE ATTRACTIVE MEMBERS OF THE OPPOSIT
 GENDER,ETC. I HAVE A BROTHER WHO ALSO HAS RP LIVING IN DENVER.HIS NAME
 IS MARK.

    ITS TIME TO STOP THIS RAMBELING AND GO TO BED.

DAN

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From: Carol.Ashland@p0.f319.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Ashland)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: dog's names
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:38:14 GMT
Reply-To: Carol.Ashland@p0.f319.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/319.0 - Mostly Mail, Aloha OR
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25459

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 DH> I heard another great story the other day about a guide dog's name.

They do think of the weirdest names for guide dogs, don't they!  I was
always a bit worried about what my dog's name was going to be.  I was
delighted when I heard Vanessa's name, and also Frosty's.  I thought
Sony's name a bit odd, but got used to it quickly enough.  I do take a
lot of kidding from people who make cracks about Japanese-made dogs and
TV's and the like.

I have heard some truly awful names though:  Washone, Wallaby, Wampam,
Santa, ... and I can't remember any others.

Carol

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From: Laurel.Gealt@f201.n273.z1.fidonet.org (Laurel Gealt)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: ACTORS
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:06:56 GMT
Reply-To: Laurel.Gealt@f201.n273.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:273/201 - US Telematics, Yardley PA
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25486

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

I sent this message before, and I got no replies.  I don't know
whether this is because no one is interested in the subject, or
whether my message just got lost.  So I am sending it again.

What does everyone think about deaf protests against the use of
hearing actors in deaf roles?  The Asians also do this.  They
recently mounted a big campaign against a play that planned to cast
a white person in an Asian role.  I think that this is incredibly
stupid.  Don't these people understand what an actor is?  The whole
job of an actor is to play people who are different from what the
actor really is.  If you carry this out all the way, you could only
have a married actor playing the role of a married man, and you
could only have a divorced actor playing the role of a divorced
man.

And, if there is a role for a character with a 12 year old son and
a 9 year old daughter, you could only cast an actor with a 12 year
old son and a nine year old daughter in the role.  I don't think
that these Deaf and Asians actors are really idealists fighting for
a cause.  They just want jobs.

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From: Glen.Sepke@f2.n348.z1.fidonet.org (Glen Sepke)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Free Matter For The
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:37:07 GMT
Reply-To: Glen.Sepke@f2.n348.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:348/2 - Man-Net-EC, Winnipeg MB
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25451

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

WW> GS> anyway.. What is your personal "tin cup" price.  How much of a
WW> GS> "handout" can you or do you accept when offered because of your
WW> GS> disability.

WW>Glen,
WW>    Oh yeah...this one came up a few years ago, and it caused a little
WW>unrest with the natives, but probably not as much as you might have
WW>expected.

Far be it from me to cause "unrest" (grin).

WW>     Personally, the pity offer hasn't occured to me much, but when it
WW>did, some poor sole pushing a bill in my hand as they passed me in
WW>departing the bus we were both riding, I suspect it wasn't a large
WW>denomination.  I know that when I crumbled it and tossed it back towards
WW>them, nobody dove for it when it hit the floor, and my judgement of the
WW>general character of the passengers tells me there would have been a
WW>free for all had it been more than a single!

I wasn't especially refering to "pitty gifts" but rather taking
"advantage" of such things as income tax breaks, free movies (when
accompanied by a sighted person), free or low cost bus fares and the like.

I will admit my views of such things swings dramatically from day to day
depending on my mood, and of course the monetary value of the "perk".
It is an interesting question, as I am lucky enough to be fulltime employed,
and contribute my share via taxes, should I use the "perks" that others
(blind or not) could use more than me.
Of course, there is no final answer, but pondering is kind of fun.

- Glen -
___
 X SLMR 2.1a X BNS - more than a notetaker.

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From: Carol.Cunningham@f8017.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Cunningham)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: HELLO
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:05:39 GMT
Reply-To: Carol.Cunningham@f8017.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/8017 - Lou Gomez, The Colony TX
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25478

Hi Friends,

Let me introduce myself. I am Carol Cunningham from Irving, Tx the
home of the now 7-1 Dallas Cowboys!!! Can you tell that I'm a very
proud fan? :)  I have a congenital bone condition known as
Osteogenesis Imperfecta or Brittle Bones. Any other OI'ers on the
Net? In 1964 I graduated from  college with a degree in English.
For the past MANY years I have  been a private tutor working from
my home. I teach all ages from Kindergartners to adults in the
areas of reading, phonics, math, English, GED etc. Love what I do
very much.

I share a home with my mother, aunt, and adorable 5 year old
Chihuahua Kelia who is the light of my life.

Many things interest me including people, laughter, reading,
science, medicine, animals, etc.

Any one out there who is a member of the Osteogenesis Imperfecta
Foundation as am I ?

    Will close for now.  God bless and take care.
                              Carol Cunningham

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From: Richard.Fleck@p0.f420.n141.z1.fidonet.org (Richard Fleck)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Portable shower chairs
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:09:05 GMT
Reply-To: Richard.Fleck@p0.f420.n141.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:141/420.0 - The Handicap News, Shelton CT
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25501

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

Hi There

I'm new to this so forgive me any mistakes.

I'm a C6-C7 Quad since 88

What I'm looking for is a portable shower chair
that I can take traveling.  Basically something
like the Active Aid tubby II but more compact
when packed.  Like the size of a small suitcase.

Anybody out there have any recommendations?

Thanks

Rich Fleck

fleck@sybil.cs.buffalo.edu

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