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From:         Angus Orde <A.Orde@LMU.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: NOT-LOGGED-IN - Where is it from?

Ricard Wolf writes....
>
>
> All this is great, but what causes NOT-LOGGED-IN to appear in the first
> place?
>

You get the NOT-LOGGED-IN users if they have:

1. loaded NETx and found your fileserver, but not yet logged in anywhere.
2. logged out of all fileservers, and yours was the last.
3. attempted to login in to your fileserver incorrectly (this logs them out
   of all other fileservers and makes yours the NOT-LOGGED-IN default).

You do NOT get it if:

4. they are still logged in to another fileserver somewhere, whether or not
   they have logged in/out of your fileserver.
5. they have followed either 1,2 or 3 and then unloaded NETx (NETx /U or
   NETx /F).

Obviously, you can try to enforce 4 or 5 to prevent these unwanted
NOT-LOGGED-INs from using up your limit.

Cheers,

Angus
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From:         "A.J. Sheehan" <GRG1678@VAX2.QUEENS-BELFAST.AC.UK>
Subject:      RE: "ATPS: Printer unexpectedly not hidden"

The problem of Laserwriters `unhiding' themselves has been a minor nuisance to
me for some time. One reason for upgrading to Netware Mac 3.011 was that I
expected it would solve this once and for all. What causes the problem no-one
seems to know: at one time Novell and Apple disputed the matter and I fear they
have not resolved it between them yet. Anyway, I just hide the printer again
as soon as I see it's visible - `atpshide xxxxxx' at the server console. Not
dramatic and not a permanent solution but it does work - temporarily!

Tony Sheehan
grg1678@v2.qub.ac.uk

Queen's University, Belfast
Northern Ireland
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 11:11:51 EST
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From:         Bill Chen <chen@WATSUN.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      Routing Bug - cisco or Novell or 3com ?
              6 Jan 93 14:32:15 GMT <199301061432.AA16790@spot.Colorado.EDU>

Here at Columbia, we noticed the same thing happen when we went from
8.2.7 to 9.0(1-12). Cisco suggested that we upgrade to 9.0(3-3). We
had tried 9.0(3-0) before we noticed the Novell problem, but we had a
multibus timing problem with CSC-R token ring boards in the router, so
we dropped back to 9.0(1-12).  We're in the process of setting up
downtime to try out 9.0(3-3).

Bill Chen
Columbia University
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:58:33 -0800
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From:         Henry Unger <hunger@HITECH.COM>
Subject:      Deleting files from a Novell Volume
              7 Jan 1993 23:25:18 GMT <9301080138.AA12902@hitech.com>

Paul's right.  I did not consider the possibility of physical
access to the server and/or the drive itself.  You could boot the
server under DOS and recover the deleted information.  You could
remove the disk from the server and hook it up to a device which
will even allow the recovery of overwritten information.

Henry
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From:         John Hendriks <JDH@MEDICINE.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU>
Organization: University of Newcastle
Subject: Re: Low Radiation screens

Members of the List,
    As the poser of the original question, I would like to add some
points to the issue. I'm not sure what the MPRII standard is
(possibly a US standard) for starters. Other problems that come to
mind relating to monitors are:-
      activity - a bit like the old Repetative Strain Injury (RSI)
that all Australian seem to be susceptible to. This may be related to
the mind unconsciously registering screen refresh - hence one gets a
little tired after prolonged periods in front of the screen, and over
the years eye sight will suffer. This is not so much of a problem
with long persistance phosphors.
      exposure - the cornea suffers damage with prolonged exposure to
UV, and therefore probably other emissions. There is research from
somewhere (cannot for the life of me remember where) that indicates
that exposure to EM (ie living under high KV power lines) does cause
measurable problems. So the causuality has been indicated as being
stong, until the next research proves otherwise.

      So are there any standards US or otherwise that address the
issues of:
     acceptable radiation from monitors?
     period of attendance at the computer?

> >        One question: When measuring radiation from an evenly-emitting
> >point source, the intensity would decrease with the square of the
> >distance.  How close is this for something in which energies are focussed
> >in one direction?  I don't even know if monitors tend to throw all
> >their harmful radiation towrads the user (hence the MPRII standard
> >measures radiation in several directions--don't want to make your
> >co-worker glow).
> >-Case Kim
>
>
> Actually it is mu understanding from what I have read on the subject
> that the most of the radiation comes out the back of the monitor.
>
> Ray Todd Stevens
> Ray@safety.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil
> (812) 854-3292  854-3294  854-3289
>       854-3293  854-3482
>
>     If we don't start our children out right they may go wrong.
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From: brian@SJF.Novell.COM (Brian Meek)
Subject: Re: lan workplace and gateways
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:12:37 GMT

"Howard A. Rollins, Jr." <HOWARD@FS1.PSY.EMORY.EDU> writes:
>I am trying out lan workplace for dos.  Would like to use our gateway
>to access by anonymous ftp various remote sites.  Can't seem to get
>this to work.  Is there a place to enter the name and ip address of
>the gateway device that provides access to the internet?  Does the
>domain name server provide this service?

The install program asks you for a default router IP address.  It then
writes that info to NET.CFG:

	Protocol TCPIP
		ip_address	89.1.1.1
		ip_router	89.1.1.254
		[...]

Note that the "ip_router" address must, of course, be on the same
network segment as your PC. 

The install program also asks if you're using DNS, and if you answer
"yes", prompts you for your domain name and the IP address of your 
primary DNS server.  It then writes that info to the file "RESOLV.CFG" 
in the following format:

	; DNS resolver file
	;
	domain SJF.Novell.COM
	
	nameserver 130.57.4.1

Additional nameserver IP addresses for secondary name servers can be added 
to this file manually.

In v4.01, the RESOLV.CFG file is placed by default in \XLN\TCP, and this 
location is pointed to by the "EXCELAN" environment variable.  In v4.1,
the RESOLV.CFG is placed by default into \NET\TCP, and is located by the
"PATH TCP_CFG" declaration in the NET.CFG "Protocol TCPIP" section.  

-- brian
___________________________________________________________________________
Brian Meek                            Novell, Inc. -- Desktop Systems Group
                                      Internet mail:  brian@Novell.COM
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From:         Patrick POLLET <ppollet@CISMIBM.UNIV-LYON1.FR>
Subject:      Re: ODIPKT and XT Keyboard Problem

In article <"d00d(8A000000000*"@MHS> you write:
>Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:40:00 +0000
>From:         wyland@MCIS.MESSIAH.EDU
>Subject:      ODIPKT and XT Keyboard Problem

>I am setting up one of our labs (the only one still on Arcnet) to use ODI
>drivers.  The lab is 90% 286 but has a couple of XTs in it.  I am using the
>same configuration for both types, but the 286s work fine and the XT have the
>following problem.  Immediately after loading ODIPKT (V1.1), the keyboard
>goes dead.  The machine is still running, but the keyboard stops responding.
>I know the machine is running because my batch file continues on and connects
>the file server and loads up our menu.  I know that ODIPKT is the culprit
>because when I load the drivers by hand that is when the keyboard stops
>working.

>Here's the order I'm loading drivers:
>  LSL
>  SMCARCWS (Odi driver for the Arcnet Cards)
>  IPXODI
>  ODIPKT
>  NETX

>My NET.CFG has the following:
>  Link Driver smcarcws
>    INT #1 2
>    PORT #1 300
>    MEM #1 CC000

>The cards have been configured this way for a long time without any problems,
>so I don't think its a card conflict.  It seems that ODIPKT is doing something
>that disables the keyboard.  Is there something that should be in NET.CFG or
>is there a newer version of ODIPKT that might work?  Again, the problem only
>occurs on XTs, 286s work great.

>.......................................................................

>Item Subject: signature
>  --------------------------------------------------------
>  |      xx                          |  Network Manager  |
>  |     xx  Tony Wyland              |  Messiah College  |
>  | xx xx   wyland@mcis.messiah.edu  |  Grantham PA      |
>  |   xx                             |  (near Harrisburg)|
>  --------------------------------------------------------
the latest version (23/12/92) ith source code is at
  hsdndev.harvard.edu
 Check it out ?

also I am surprised that you do not specify in your batch file
  ODIPKT x nn    X= protocol number (defaut 0)
                 nn = interrupt Pkt ( default 69 I guess ?)
   there is may be a collision between the interrupt ansd some XT
specific interrupt.
ppollet@cismibm.univ-lyon1.fr (Patrick POLLET)
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:21:00 EST
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From:         "Bob.Cowling" <23130MGR@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Any good PD network monitoring o

there is a program called the Gobbler.  You should be able to get a source
from Archie.

It's good for PD stuff.
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From:         "DCOULTER@NTET.NCTR.FDA.GOV" <DCOULTER@NTET.NCTR.FDA.GOV>
Subject:      Re: Two servers, two ABENDS!

Date sent:  4-JAN-1993 08:58:14
>
>"deactivated due to drive failure " .. the infamous deactivation message. I
>have seen it twice: on internal IBM SCSI drives, which can be fixed by updating
>their old scsi adapter to their new one with internal intermination and by
>changing from ibmscsi.dsk to ps2opt.dsk (available on the novell ftp servers
>and compuserve).
>I have also seen it on Core external scsi drives, but alas! no resolution is
>in sight.

Yes, these are Micropolis drives. It did come back up though.
Just worried about the error message I get upon loading the
.dsk driver...


     Dan Coulter
     National Center for Toxicological Research
     Jefferson, Arkansas
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From:         GRG1678%UK.AC.QUEENS-BELFAST.VAX2@V2.QUB.AC.UK
Subject:      RE: Can't set Use Interrupt to NO in Pconsole

You can't switch off interrupts for a remote printer - pconsole insists on them
and forces you to have one even if you try to delete it. The solution to your
printing problem is to fit the computer with the remote printer attached with
a new parallel port or ports, make them lpt2 and lpt3 respectively, and give
them interrupts 7 and 5 respectively. *Do not* connect the old lpt1 port on that
 atmachine to anything: if you do it will block the new port or ports.
Alternatively, replace the existing port with a new one. If the monitor port and
 ndlpt1 are on the same card of course, this may not be possible in which case
the first solution is the best.

Tony Sheehan
grg1678@v2.qub.ac.uk

Queen's University, Belfast
Northern Ireland
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From:         Jim Aagaard <AAGAARD@NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU>
Subject:      INVALID COMMAND.COM

It's not likely this is your problem, but we had some IBM 8535's with
preloaded software with copies of COMMAND.COM in C: and C:\DOS, and
they were different.
                            Jim Aagaard
                            Northwestern University Library
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From:         "Marv Quick, Rm 212 510 642-7885" <MGQ@UCBDO1.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      mirroring disks/diskdrives(maybe duplexing)

All

Im setting up a server using two UltraStore 12f hdiskcontrollers and
two MaxStor 620 meg drives.

I have used the info sheet that UltraStore puts out and have talked
to UltraStor Tech help but.... I cant get the second drive to show
its partition when I try to setup the mirroring.

When I load isadisk for the first hdcontroller I use port =1F0
interupt=E
and for the second hdcontroller I use port=170 intterupt=f.

All appears ok except that , as I said above the partition for the
second drive doesnt show up when I attempt to setup  the mirroring.

I have swapped both the controllers and drives and when they are in
the primary set they work just fine...

Any thots would really be appreicated.

marv q



Marv Quick (510) 642-7885
University of Calif.
Development Office
2440 Bancroft Way , Rm 212
Berkeley CA 94720
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:09:00 EST
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From:         Fund@RELAY.PROTEON.COM
Subject:      re: dosup6.zip, winup7.zip and 311ptb.zip... found !

>Is there REALLY a dosup6?  I find dosup5 and winup6, but I've never seen
>a dosup6.  Jan, could you verify that the file you're describing is really
>named dosup6?

>Thanks.
>Philip H. Kachelmyer

   OK folks.  It is confusing but here is the scoop.  Their is a DOSUP6.ZIP
   and a WINUP7.ZIP and a 311PTB.ZIP that were all uploaded very recently
   to the NOVELL.COM.

   They are not in the standard \NETWIRE\NOVLIB\01 directory as you would
   expect.

   They are in \NETWIRE\NOVLIB\NOVFILES.

   Since the FTP server is a mirror of CompuServe, and that excessive
   CIS traffic caused the temporary creation of a new library forum...
   you guess it NOVFILES,  the Novell folks decided to carry this over
   to their FTP server as well.

   Unfortunately, no one made much of an effort to tell folks about them.

   PS... If you are going to NetWorld, I have downloaded each of these fiies
   and you can pick them up in the NUI booth 620.

   PS... Just to confuse everyone.  There is a \NETWIRE\NOVFILES directory
   on NOVELL.COM that must have been a mistake.  There is nothing
   there.  Make believe it does not exist.

   Enjoy.

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From: donp@novell.com (don provan)
Subject: Re: TCP-IP problems with Proteon boards
Organization: Novell, Inc., San Jose, California
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:07:06 GMT

In article <MAILQUEUE-101.930111112932.448@dsu1.dsu.NoDak.edu> Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET> writes:
>I am using 134x Proteon Token Ring network boards in Gateway 2000
>386sx computers on my Token Ring network.  After TCP-IP was
>installed, the computer will hang at indiscriminate times in any
>application.

I don't think anyone here can help you much without knowing what
TCP/IP implementation you're talking about.  If it's Novell's LAN
WorkPlace for DOS, then your simplest solution is indeed to convert to
entirely ODI and get rid of what ever it is that's still trying to use
packet drivers.  If your TCP/IP is some packet driver based
implementation, then you need to find someone that understands that
implementation, which is probably neither Proteon nor Novell.

						don provan
						donp@novell.com
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From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Netware and VMS

>>----------
>>        Yes, we have been running it for years. It used to be NW/VMS and
>>after the political waves settled it is as you see it now. It works, on
>>the main campus VAX and on my VAX, and looks like regular NetWare to the
>>user. Interconnections Inc is actively enhancing things in the backrooms.
>>        Joe D.
>>Disclaimer: some of my stuff comes in their box. The nicer version would
>>be their things in my box, sigh.
>Question Joe, By using File Sharing Services, is it possible to backup a
>Netware v3.11 fileserver to a tape drive on the VAX?  We are looking to
>purchase a 8mm backup system for the VAX and was hoping we could kill two birds
>with one stone and use this system to backup the fileserver too.
>
>Any information on this is greatly appreciated.
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> I speak for myself ONLY! Who in their right mind would let me speak for them?
> Eric Harper                         Internet: harper@pembvax1.pembroke.edu
> Pembroke State University           Bitnet:   harper@pembvax1.bitnet
> University Computing and
> Information Services
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        Yes, of course. The NW/VMS (File Sharing Services) creates files
under VMS and hence they are backed up by normal VMS procedures. The bindery
is that way too: VMS files. They have a pgm to create instances of the bindery
which can be copied while the real files are locked open by use. I just use
BCK to a DAT or TK50 from the VMS side.
        Joe D.
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From:         Bob Smith <LBBSMITH@ECUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Gopher

I'm attempting to set up a client gopher (IBM) station
through a Novell 3.11 network.  My MAC works fine with Turbo
Gopher installed, however, the IBM can't seem to get through
the gateway.  Using ne2000 card here and server is WD.  The
guys at Boombox seem to be busy right now, so any help from
anyone would be appreciated.

Bob Smith
Academic Communication Support Services
East Carolina University
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Date:         Sat, 9 Jan 1993 14:32:31 +1100
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From:         Iain Brown <igb@LIBSERVER.CANBERRA.EDU.AU>
Subject:      3.11 WSGEN Problem

I am new to Netware and am currently attempting to generate DOS workstation
Netware services using WSGEN (136-001182-001 Rev. A).
Selecting the network board driver and configuration option all appear to
function as specified but after selecting the "Generate Workstation Software"
option the system replies with :

Novell Linker, Version 2.1
Linking WSGEN:IPX.COM.
Insert disk SHGEN-1 in any drive...

A disk with that label wasn't included with the original 3.11 diskettes
received. The versions of WSGEN.EXE and NLINK.EXE I have are :

          WSGEN.EXE    135904      02-01-91
          NLINK.EXE     38177      10-26-91

Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you for your time.


Iain Brown
University of Canberra
Internet : igb@libserver.canberra.edu.au
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