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From: evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: FLAME! Only a Manual!
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:03:49 GMT
Organization: Somewhere just far enough out of Toronto

In article <1992Nov8.003638.12735@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA writes:

>Even if you have synchros, double clutching is easier on your drive-train
>and your clutch takes longer to wear down if you know what you're doing!

And if you don't? :-)

-- 
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         evan@telly.on.ca / uunet!utzoo!telly!evan / (416) 452-0504
         "IBM's three letters are probably EBCDIC for CYA" - Nik H.
From: andrew@frip.WV.TEK.COM (Andrew Klossner)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: saturn/OLDs speculation
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:41:37 GMT
Reply-To: andrew@frip.wv.tek.com
Organization: Tektronix Color Printers, Wilsonville, Oregon

There's an interesting article on GM, with discussions of Saturn and
Olds, in the 9 Nov 92 issue of Time magazine (in the U.S. at least).
One fascinating tidbit: Saturns are priced *below* their burdened cost
in an effort to jump-start the market.  ("We lose money on every sale,
but we make it up in volume!")  This from a company that files suit
whenever they perceive "dumping" by foreign competitors.

  -=- Andrew Klossner  (andrew@frip.wv.tek.com)
                       (uunet!tektronix!frip.WV.TEK!andrew)
From: lmcstst@noah.ericsson.se (Stamos Stamos)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Air bag tests
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:49:33 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Communications Inc. Montreal, Canada
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              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.





From a local paper: Air Bags offer best protection, test show

Automobiles equipped with air bags generally afforded drivers much better
protection from head injuries than those with only seatbelts, according 
to the latest US gov. crash test results

Seventy-one vehicles, all 1993s were crashed into a cement barrier at
56kph to simulate head-on collision of two cars [each car traveling at
28 kph, pretty slow isn't it?]

Thirty-four of the cars had air bags and in each test, seatbelts were
in place to protect test dummies.

Of teh 15 cars in which the dummy drivers sustained the least severe
injures, 13 were equipped with air bags. No air bags were in  any of
the 11 cars in which drivers had the most severe and probably life-
threatening head injuries.

The test were conducted by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

The car with the worst crash-test results was the two-door Oldsmobile
Achieva, in which the dummy driver sustained a head impact twice as hard
as is needed to cause serious brain damage or death [at 56kph? what a crap
car]. A similar result was recorded in the Chevrolet Astro Van.

A level of 1,000 head-injury criteria(HIC) is considered severe enough 
to cause serious and perhaps fatal brain damage, while one of less than
500 is not expected to inflict serious injuries.

The car with the best test result was the four-door Volvo 240 sedan.

Over-all, the 37 cars that had only seatbelts had an average HIC of 931
while the 34 cars with driver side air bags had an average of 592.

[Achieva HIC=~>2000, Volvo HIC=~<592, what a difference!]






--
Stamos <lmcstst@noah.ericsson.se>            ZZR11            Ellas
Ericsson, Cellular Design
Montreal, Canada.
From: awelker@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca (Andrew Welker)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.vw
Subject: 1993 VW GOLF
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:57:37 GMT
Followup-To: rec.autos
Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine

Hello all! I just saw the new VW Golf on the weekend and it looks wonderful!
I am interested to know if anyone has driven one yet and what is it like?
I own an Audi 5000S (1984) and I am thinking of getting a new car.
Thanks in advance!

Andrew Welker

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From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
Subject: Re: Saturn Polymer Side Panels - How tough ??
Date: 10 Nov 92 04:12:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux1.BxHFpF.I6r
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In article <1992Nov9.145458.29662@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> bqueiser@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Brian J Queiser) writes:
>mshar@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Mshar) writes:
>
>>> bqueiser@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Brian J Queiser) writes:
>
>>>What do you expect from him anyway?  He's in the ME school at Purdue.
>>>I did my undergrad in the Aero school there, and I know what those
>>>ME guys are like, I roomed with one.  They barely teach those guys
>>>statics.  Bwahahahahahahahaha!  Flame away, Mike!  Stick to thermo!
>>>(God, I hated ME200 so much, I took it twice.)
>>
>>At least I will have a job when I graduate...
>
>Don't count on it.  You may have to consider grad school at some other
>TOP TEN university.  Oh, I forgot, you'll be going back to Gary.
>I feel bad for you.  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
>
>Regards,
>
>Brian
>

	The point is moot, boys, we school both of you!  A friendly message
from the College of Engineering, The University of Illinois, Urban-Champaign.

	And you can't even beat us in football!

	;-)

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From: dtg@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Tempos and Loyales, Info needed
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:40:54 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

I'm in the market for a 4 WD car with a good bit of space.  I would like some
input on the Ford Tempo ('85, 24K mi).

Also, I noticed a Subaru called the Loyale??  It's like a mini-wagon type of
car.  I'd never heard of it before.  Anyone know anything about these???

I am unexpectly having to get a car in the very near future (like a week and a
half) and saw these models in a dealer's lot during my first tour.

Thanks
Dave
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From: wesf@boi.hp.com (Wes Fujii)
Subject: Re: OLDsmobile sales plunge
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:39:35 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
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Robert J. Wade (rjwade@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu) wrote:
: speculate that olds won't be around much longer in it's current form...

I'd better hang onto my Hurst/Olds a little bit longer.  Sounds like the
value could be going up... (or down, you can't ever tell these days)

Wes Fujii

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From: lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Annoying film on windshield
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:52:02 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Distribution: na
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Nov5.163932.12201@infonode.ingr.com> jjolly@jjolly.b24b.ingr.com (Jack G. Jolly) writes:
>I had problems with the wipers "chattering" on my '72 vette.
>
>Was told that acetone is the strongest thing you can use to safely clean
>the glass.  Bought some at K-Mart and cleaned glass.  It removed the
>Rain-X I had applied earlier.  What happens now is that when first turned
>on, the wipers chatter for the first few passes, then "settle down."  I
>expect the chattering on the first passes will go away as the blades
>get broken in.
>

    May also want to try CAREFULLY using fine grit wet/dry sandpaper
    along the wiping surface of the wiper blades.  Sunlight,
    pollution, etc. build up a crust on them fairly rapidly.
From: andyh@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Andrew J. Huang)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: big alternators - tiny belt
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:09:45 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University

In article <921109.110252.amiller@almaden.ibm.com> amiller@almaden.ibm.com (Alex Miller) writes:
>blu@cellar.org (Dan Reed) writes:
>
>Right now I limit myself to 100w/150w H4s in my main headlights and
>130w in my fog lamps.  When I add Rallye-2000 cornering lights with
>130w  bulbs my voltmeter starts reading below 12V.  By the way, there
>are 100w/170w H4 bulbs and 160w H1/H3 bulbs available - you'll need
>10g direct wiring with relays unless you want to burn up your dashboard.
>
>Alex
>amiller@almaden.ibm.com

Does anybody else feel that for on the road use that 100w is a bit
obnoxious?  Yes, its true that if you get good lenses and are careful
about aiming, the light will mostly be low and not glare too much, but
there are such things as hills, dips and etc.

Secondly, putting 130w into fogs is basically saying I have bigger
balls.  The more light you put into fog the more it will come back
into your eyes and both ruin your night vision and obscure the road.

If you want useful extra lighting, put lots of wattage into pencil
beams as high as possible.  Keep fog wattage low.  Keep low beams
wattage low as a matter of courtesy.

-andy
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: barr@tramp.Colorado.EDU (BARR DOUG)
Subject: starting and running a diesel rabbit in winter
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:23:28 GMT

I own a diesel rabbit, 1979, with a add-on turbo. It works OK but is
hard to start (getting harder as it gets colder) and smokes quite a bit.
Any suggestions on how to improve starting and reduce smoking?
 
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: lagrangj@unvax.union.edu (Joshua C. LaGrange)
Subject: I'm willing to start an air-cooled FAQ
Summary: I'll do it - with your help.
Organization: Union College, Schenectady, NY
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 05:10:17 GMT

I'd be willing to put together an FAQ for air, but I need people to put together questions/problems/answers/solutions and email that sort of stuff to me.  If I don't get this help, then there is no way I could do this.

-- 
Josh LaGrange                  *                    
Email: lagrangj@unvax.union.edu*                                               Phone: (518) 370-6908          *
My views may not represent the *
views of the Union College     *
From: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: big alternators - tiny belt
Date: 5 Nov 1992 22:53:24 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, amiller@almaden.ibm.com (Alex Miller) says:

>I already have a 90A Motorola alternator on my '83 GTI and I'm
>thinking of getting a higher power unit so I can run ALL my
>lights when I'm on private roads.  I think Motorola has a 110-120A
>unit that will fit.  I wonder, will the standard V-belt will
>still work?  I've seen several rallye cars that use two belts
>in parallel or use a wider cog-belt - like a timing belt or dry-sump.
>
>Has anyone any experience with this?
>
>Thanks,
>Alex Miller
>amiller@almaden.ibm.com
>

Novemeber issue of EC has an article abt how they put one into their
project  cabriolet.  I guess a 120 amp.  they said the one out of the
Alfa romeo 164 fell right into the 16v....they also plug away on a "new"
thing from some company to adda  ground stap...whatever..any help?
look for the article..it'll help you more than i can, but as near as
i can figure, it is a direct replacement, with nothing else required..i 
don't know for sure!..they also did a thing on putting in a 90 amp..i can
look for that one as well if you like..email or post..i'll find it when i
have time if you ask!
DREW
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From: hersh@expo.lcs.mit.edu (Jay Hersh)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Drivers Seat for 86 GTi??
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:59:41 GMT
Organization: X Consortium, MIT Laboratory for Computer Science

anyone out there have a spare drivers seat for an 86 GTi???
 or at least a spare frame??

Otherwise anyone know a good place to get one?
The dealer wants $315 for just the frame.  Recycled Inc.
is trying to find  an entire seat, this would be $250 IF
 they can find one.

I found a rabbit in a junkyard, they didn't tell me what
they wanted for it, but I don't know if I can use it.
Certainly the upholstery doesn't match, so if the frame is
the same I would have to remove it from that seat in order
to install it on mine.  This is more work than I want to do.

The frame on mine has sheared as well as th welds on the post
where the seat latch mechanism is have failed.  I am pretty sure
my present frame is not salvagable.

My goal is to find  parts or a rebuilt seat such that I will
still match the upholstery in the car, and also still have a
drivers seat with a height adjustment.

So if anyone can make any helpful suggestions I appreciate it.

	JaH

--
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From: haskins@mipps.myapc.com (Robert D. Haskins)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Timing belts and 16v engines
Summary: Replacement of timing belt necessary at 60k miles?
Keywords: VW engine, belts
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:15:41 GMT
Organization: Maine Yankee, Wiscasset, Maine  USA

I was told by a reputable service manager that the timing belts of VW 16-valve
engines need to be changed at 60k miles.  Has anyone had a timing belt go on
them this soon?  The service manager indicated that the belt is spec'ed only
to 60k miles.  I would think that VW would spec it for more like 100k miles.

Is this guy telling the truth?  The vehicle in question happens to be a '90
Passat, but he indicated that it was the same for all VW 16-valve engines.

Bob Haskins
haskins@mipps.myapc.com     <---work (preferred)
haskins@maine.maine.edu     <---play
From: milo@dorm.rutgers.edu (james mielo)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: re: grinding 1-2 shift
Date: 6 Nov 92 03:37:30 GMT
Followup-To: rec.autos.vw
Organization: rutgers university

I have a 90 GTi 8V. The tranny grinds on the 1-2 shift eventhough the
clutch is fully depressed and no matter how slow the shift is done. The
second gear slot feels like shifting into marbles. It is almost like
feeling the gears trying to mesh. The clutch is self adjusting so I assume
the clutch is properly engaging.Also it doesn't occur in any other gear a
nd occurs wether I shift at 2000rpm of 5500rpm. This problem occurs when
the car is off and idle usually overnight. It doesn't seem to be temp.
dependant since it occurs in the winter and summer. Recently my pinion gear
came loose and chewed up some gears. VW replaced 1st gear and 2nd
gear+synchro and other assorted clips, etc. The problem still exists so
this rules out synchro/internal damage. What could be causing it? It has
been going on for about a year so I really need help!!

James Mielo
Rutgers College of Pharmacy '94
milo@dorm.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: squiec@vccsouth14.its.rpi.edu (Craig L. Squier)
Subject: Re: What uses the 2.0L 16V engine?
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 21:47:20 GMT

In article <92318.142939KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu> Karl Nordstrom <KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>What VWs use the 2.0 liter 16 valve engine?

   Simple.... THe 92 Jetta GLI and Golf GTI and the Corrado in Europe has
     a 2.0 16V variant(no G60 supercharger)
                                                 -Craig

Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: david@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH WAYNE DAVID)
Subject: Re: Lead Additive
Originator: david@c30003-2410br.mae.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: david@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH WAYNE DAVID)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 12:48:25 GMT


Michael,

Your '67 VW bug has hardened steel valve seats and will tolerate
unleaded gas well. You might need to use the 89 or 92 octane to 
eliminate spark knock, but otherwise no problem.

I have used unleaded gas in my bugs for several years. Anything from
a stock 1600cc to a 2180cc stroker. Upon disassembly, I could not tell
any difference in using unleaded gas.

Forget the lead additive and enjoy your bug.
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: macklowj@infonode.ingr.com (Jim J. Macklow)
Subject: Smoky Gasoline Heater... Repairable?
Keywords: Van, Heat, Gasoline, Fumes, Boom!
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 03:02:08 GMT


Are the gasoline heaters in vans servicable?  My '79 puts out
hot smoky air, and I'd like it to put out hot, smoke-free air.
This van has leaked a lot of oil in the past (and even a bit
now) into the heater boxes, so I'm not sure if the smoke is 
the heater not completely combusting and leaking, or if the
oily air the heater boxes are feeding the furnace has coated 
its innards with sludge, which burns off.

The amount of smoke put out isn't much;  when in motion on the
highway, I can smell it.  If I turn on just the heater with the
engine off (and van parked),  it takes about 10-15 minutes to get
the van filled with smoke that's visible.

Anyone have any ideas?  I have visions of turning this van into a
four-season tripmobile, and the heater is central to comfort in one
season and parts of two others, so I'd like to fix this problem, not
disconnect it.

Does Bentley have any info in the Van manual?

Any info greatly appreciated.

-Jim Macklow
From: kerila@hal.com (Larry Kerila)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: 3-4 point belts/harnesses for Golf?
Date: 10 Nov 1992 23:39:19 GMT
Organization: HaL Computer Systems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: kerila@hal.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: spiff.hal.com

Try APS in anahiem or New Dimensions in Santa Clara.  I have a
friend who has Schroth (sp) belts in his Scirocco and he likes
them (he is a driver, going over the hill, 17, a lot).

-Larry K

Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: msirota@ee.rochester.edu (Mark Sirota)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: Boge TurboGas Rear Shock ALERT!
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:57:24 GMT
Reply-To: Mark Sirota <msirota@socrates.ee.rochester.edu>
Organization: University of Rochester Department of Electrical Engineering

In article <5a0yTB2w164w@cellar.org> blu@cellar.org (Dan Reed) writes:
> Boge TurboGas rear-shock warning.
>
>   I had to WELD the small "C" clip, and washer in place.. that fixed it.
>  
>   Just thought I'd let you all know about this... I had HEARD of this
> happening before, but never knew just what the problem was with the
> Boge's, but this weld has seemed to fixed it.

Yep, this is a common, known problem with Boge rears.  Get Sachs instead,
that's my solution.

Mark
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University of Rochester, Rochester NY
 Internet: msirota@ee.rochester.edu
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Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: squiec@vccsouth14.its.rpi.edu (Craig L. Squier)
Subject: Re: Timing belts and 16v engines
Keywords: VW engine, belts
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 21:17:59 GMT

In article <110@mipps.myapc.com> haskins@mipps.myapc.com (Robert D. Haskins) writes:
>I was told by a reputable service manager that the timing belts of VW 16-valve
>engines need to be changed at 60k miles.  Has anyone had a timing belt go on
>them this soon?  The service manager indicated that the belt is spec'ed only
>to 60k miles.  I would think that VW would spec it for more like 100k miles.
>
>Is this guy telling the truth?  The vehicle in question happens to be a '90
>Passat, but he indicated that it was the same for all VW 16-valve engines.
>
>Bob Haskins
>haskins@mipps.myapc.com     <---work (preferred)
>haskins@maine.maine.edu     <---play

   Your local service manager is a crack smoker!!!!!!!! Unless you want to 
 buy a new head , you should replace the timing belt at 40000 miles. 
 Any time over that and you're asking to have the God of Bent Valves rain
 fury upon your poor VW. There are special belts I've heard of that have
 wires embedded in the belt to keep it from breaking off(sure destruction)
 but if these come into play you nay lose enough cam timing to still bend a 
 valve or too, these belts just increase the safety factor to keep various
 parts from going ballistic through your hood....
 Follow the most conservative guide available when it comes to mainteneance.
 i.e. the BEntley Manual. They say 40,000, therefore I'd pay attention to 
 their experience, eh???
LATER>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  -Craig


Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
From: ludeman@astroatc.uucp (Weekend Pilot)
Subject: Re: Boge TurboGas Rear Shock ALERT!
Organization: Astronautics Technology Cntr, Madison, WI
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:33:22 GMT

In article <5a0yTB2w164w@cellar.org> blu@cellar.org (Dan Reed) writes:
>Boge TurboGas rear-shock warning.
> 
>the spring was moving, not the strut...  I saw that the washer that goes
>against the "cap" of the spring, was not seated and could slide all the
>way down the shock stud.  Seems there is a small brass "C" clip, that
>mounts in a tiny groove on the shock stud, and when the clip popped down,
>[...] 
> 
>  I had to WELD the small "C" clip, and washer in place.. that fixed it.
>I took the car out for a test drive.. and POP!  

Ahhh, do not try this at home, kiddies.  First off, attempts to weld brass
to any sort of ferrous alloy are bound to result in something quite a bit
less than roadworthy (half :-)).  I installed these shocks on my 86 GTI
last May and have accumulated about 12k miles since with no problems
whatsoever.  I suspect your problem is related to improper assembly rather
than an inadequate design but I can't prove it from here.  

I think the circlip you are referring to is a cadmium plated steel part.
Cad plating gives a sort of brassy yellow look to steel hardware and is
characteristic of most aircraft hardware.
When you weld something like this you a) generate a lot of very unhealthy
cadmium rich fumes and b) destroy the corrosion resistance imparted by the
cad plating.  You run a significant risk of having this patch job rust out
and fail in a most unfortunate manner.
-- 
Evan Ludeman   
astroatc!ludeman@spool.cs.wisc.edu 
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