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From: rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Royal Albert Hall (was: "Rare & Unreleased: Vol. 4-7")
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:51:12 GMT
	<1992Jul22.131403.4228@riacs.edu> <14kir8INNe9n@agate.berkeley.edu>
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In-reply-to: Christian Ullsperger's message of 22 Jul 1992 21:10:00 GMT

In article <14kir8INNe9n@agate.berkeley.edu> Christian Ullsperger <ullsperg@enz.berk.edu> writes:
   the bootleg series, including some very interesting "wish lists". The
   Royal Albert Hall show, or the show that's supposed to be Royal Albert
   Hall, is near the top of the list. I've paid too much money for a cruddy
   recording of this show



Which one did you buy? Let the Net benefit from your misfortune :)
There are lots of unofficial releases of this around, some awful, some
ok, some excellent. For better or worse, people do buy bootlegs; we
might as well use this forum to let each other know which ones to
avoid.



   looking forward to the CD release.

Me, I'd love to see a clean analog release of this analog recording.
But I doubt that will ever happen. An official cd release would be
acceptable, so long as Sony doesn't NoNoise it or otherwise "fix" it.
If a complete acoustic set from the same tour was included in the same
package, even better. In the meantime, the Swinging Pig cds are a
reasonable substitute, though they did use some kind of noise
reduction on the acoustic disc.

rs
From: Christian Ullsperger <ullsperg@enz.berk.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: "Rare & Unreleased: Vol. 4-7"
Date: 27 Jul 1992 23:39:51 GMT
Organization: UC-Berkeley, Dept. of Mol. and Cell Biology
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>Which one did you buy? Let the Net benefit from your misfortune :)

Yes, of course. The crappy sounding Royal Albert Hall CD was part of a
"Twenty Years Ago Today" series issued by Bulldog Records.

Stay away from this dog.
From: 6145goldino@vms.csd.mu.edu (Owen Goldin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: Info on new ambum
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:08:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: vms.0095DF3F.E0E7A960
Reply-To: 6145goldino@vms.csd.mu.edu
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services

In article <3987@news.duke.edu>, trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH) writes:
>In article <14f39hINNdk5@agate.berkeley.edu>, berger@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu (Daniel Berger) writes:
>>- Produced by David Bromberg
>
>What else has he produced?  Has he worked/played with Bob before?
>
>Robert Clough, DUMC      


Bromberg plays some very nifty guitar on Self Portrait and on New Morning.  
He may well be on the SP outtakes from Dylan too, but I don't know this.  As
far as I know Dylan and Bromberg have never performed live together.  If they
were to tour together after the release of the new album this would be truly
memorable.  Bromberg has always come off much better live than in recordings.

I know that Bromberg has produced some of his own stuff; I don't know if has
produced anyone else.  His approach to production seems to me to get clear
sounding takes of tracks basically performed live.  More or less the approach
Dylan favors, but without the occasional murky sound.


Owen Goldin
From: ajs@jloda.cci.com (Alan Sodoma)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Bootleg Series
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:37:59 GMT
Reply-To: ajs@jloda.cci.com
Organization: The Internet

This just found on rec.music.misc.  It was on the Recent and Upcoming
Releases list.

Feb *  Bob Dylan                    Rare & Unreleased: Vol. 4-7  [BD]


The * means it's a new entry and the BD is some guys initials.


Al Sodoma
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: jroberts@fhr.ma30.bull.com (John Roberts)
Subject: Re: Tour info request
Reply-To: jroberts@fhr.ma30.bull.com (John Roberts)
Organization: Bull HN Information Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:27:41 GMT

In article <9207291444.AA27745@ray.met.fsu.edu>, dave@RAY.MET.FSU.EDU (Dave Faciane) writes:
|> 
|> Is Dylan on tour? Is he coming to Florida? Inquiring minds need to know.
            ^^^^^^^^
         The Never Ending Tour.
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: farowich@guiduk.enet.dec.com (STEVE FAROWICH)
Subject: BoB CD
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 30 JUL 92 15:31:34    

I understand that there is more than one version
of Blonde on Blonde out on CD.  From what I 
understand there is an "older" version that
was released that cut some of the selections
short due to space problems with early CDs.

Does anyone know how one can tell the 
difference?

Steve 
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: georger@utoday.com (George Rothe)
Subject: Re: "Rare & Unreleased: Vol. 4-7"
Organization: UNIX Today!
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 12:53:56 GMT
Keywords: Really?


well, then what was all that talk in the bootleg booklet?
From: ryanr@beethoven.beethoven.CS.ColoState.EDU (richard ryan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: "Rare & Unreleased: Vol. 4-7"
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:41:43 GMT
	<1992Jul22.131403.4228@riacs.edu> <14kir8INNe9n@agate.berkeley.edu>
	<xxgmtjj.michel@netcom.com>
Organization: Computer Science Department, Colorado State University

>>>>> On 23 Jul 92 15:31:11 GMT, michel@netcom.com (Steve Michel) said:

Steve> Christian Ullsperger <ullsperg@enz.berk.edu> writes:

>certain that within the next twenty years, and certainly after Dylan's
>death, a lot more stuff is going to be made generally available. NONE of
>Dylan's stuff really sells, relatively speaking, so I don't think that's
>such a big issue here.

Steve> Well, sure, we're certainly going to get a lot of stuff out
Steve> within the next twenty years, and especially after Bob's gone.
Steve> But I'll stand by my source that says "no more Bootleg Series"
Steve> in the foreseeable future.  -- "When I need a little free
Steve> advice about Saddam Hussein, I turn to country music." --
Steve> George Bush, 10/2/91, presumably talking about the song "Stand
Steve> By Your Man."

Y'all are talkin' about Mr. Z as if he was serously ill or something.
Is he?
Pretty scary talk, but I guess I'm just being a wimp.
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: johnm@meaddata.com (John Manley)
Subject: Re: Baseball Organ Music
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 02:55:24 GMT

In article <RMURA.92Jul7211817@world.std.com> rmura@world.std.com (Ron Mura) writes:
>I tried to ask this question in rec.sport.baseball but didn't get a
>definitive answer.  Does any reader of this newsgroup know about it?
>I only heard a couple of seconds of music, when they came back from
>a commercial, so it may not even have been "Thin Man."
>
>For non-baseball-fans, Bobby Thigpen is a relief pitcher on the
>Chicago White Sox professional team.  
>
>I have learned that the organist is a "she" and that she reportedly is
>very talented and has a good knowledge of popular music.
>
>
>In article <RMURA.92Jul5211942@world.std.com> rmura@world.std.com (Ron Mura) writes:
>> 
>> I was watching the Red Sox vs. the White Sox at Chicago this
>> weekend and when Thigpen came into the game it sounded like
>> the organist was playing Bob Dylan's "Ballad of a Thin Man."
>> 
>> Does he play that song every time Thigpen comes into a game?
>> How did it get associated with him?
>
>-- 
>- Ron Mura, Boston, Massachusetts              rmura@world.std.com


Nancy Faust has been the White Sox organist for years. She typically
picks a song that fits a player's name/personality and plays a short
sample at appropriate moments ie: when he comes to bat or in to pitch.
I haven't been to many games this year so I don't know what she has
played for Thigpen...though something like "Blowin' in the Wind" seems
appropriate for the long balls Thiggy has been offering up!!

Faust's most notable contribution was the creation of the now-traditional
"NA NA NA NA, NA NA NA NA, HEY HEY HEY, GOODBYE" chant she adapted back
in the late `70s from the 1969 Top Ten hit by the band STEAM.


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Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: mktjadx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Jeff A. Dilcher)
Subject: Re: Anti-censorship T-Shirts
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 04:25:59 GMT

farowich@guiduk.enet.dec.com (STEVE FAROWICH) writes:
>In article <wVk4NB10w165w@midiline.la.ca.us>, fiddle@midiline.la.ca.us (frank hoppe) writes...
>>I've found a source for T-shirts that say, "I BUY MUSIC FOR MINORS."
>>The Washington Music Industry Coalition is fighting recent restrictive 
>>legislation and is selling these shirts as fundraisers. If you can get 
>>behind the message, they come in black or white and cost $12.50pp.
>>Write to: WMIC, 300 Lenora St., Box P120, Seattle, WA 98121.

That sounds politically correct enough!  I guess "I BUY PORNOGRAPHIC MAGAZINES
FOR MINORS" probably wouldn't sell as many, though.  Same thing, only we're
dealing with ears instead of eyes! .
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: CSMSAXS@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (CSMSAXS (Arnie Stodolsky))
Subject: RUMOR CENTRAL: 30th Anniverary Concert?
Date: 29 Jul 92 09:10:18 PDT

In the Los Angeles Times Calendar section of July 27th as a side bar
to the Wallflower article was the following:

Plans are being made to celebrate Dylan's 30 year anniversary as a
recording artist with two all-star concerts in mid-October at
New York's Madison Square Garden.  The idea is to bring Dylan together
with musicians associated with and/or influenced by the icon.

Heading the long list of guests are presumably such names as Bruce
Springsteen, U2, Neil Young, Joan Baez, Johnny Cash, Roger McGuinn,
and fellow Wilburys Tom Petty and George Harrison.  A live album, a
theatrical film or pay-per-view television special are being discussed.
(The article was written by Steve Hochman)

Does anyone have any other info to add about this?
From: berger@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu (Daniel Berger)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: Info on new ambum
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:05:27
Organization: School of Education, UC Berkeley
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In-reply-to: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu's message of 21 Jul 92 19:55:31 GMT

In article <3987@news.duke.edu> trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH) writes:

   In article berger@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu (Daniel Berger) writes:
   >- Produced by David Bromberg

   What else has he produced?  Has he worked/played with Bob before?

   Robert Clough, DUMC

He worked with Dylan on New Morning

dhb
From: akp1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Adam K. Powers)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: r.m.d survey
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:43:59 GMT
Reply-To: akp1@midway.uchicago.edu
Distribution: rec.music.dylan
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations


	OK, folks, this is meant to be a quick survey of r.m.d posters/lurkers.
As this is a low-volume newsgroup and most of us want to keep it that way,
please respond by e-mail only!  I'll post the results in a week or so.

I am interested in determining how long we've been listening to Dylan, and in 
which particular "phase" of his music we became fans.  So, here's the info I'd
like you to mail:
	1. Your age.
	2. When (approximately) you started listening to Dylan.
	3. What album, song, or live performance got you interested in Dylan's
	   music.

For example, here's me:

	1. 20
	2. 1986
	3. _Empire Burlesque_

Maybe now you know why I'm curious!  Anyway, you can be more descriptive if you
like, but I'm only planning to post a minimal list of stats as of now.  Again,
please send all replies by e-mail only to: akp1@midway.uchicago.edu
Thanks for your time!
						-Adam K. Powers
From: Christian Ullsperger <ullsperg@enz.berk.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re:
Date: 22 Jul 1992 20:57:06 GMT
Organization: UC-Berkeley, Dept. of Molecular and Cell Biology
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From: howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John Howells)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Lost Dylan tapes to be made legally available?
Summary: Bob Johnston tapes sold at auction, ready for release
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:01:18 GMT
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035

From the nationally syndicated newspaper column EAVESDROP by
DiGiacomo/Molloy, as seen in the San Francisco Chronicle on Monday July
27, 1992:

=======================================================================

Two years ago, a couple who bought some cartons at a warehouse auction
in Tennessee for $50 realized the boxes were filled with rare
recordings. Brenda and Doug Cole learned that the tapes were master
reels cut by Frank Sinatra, Tony Bennett, Bob Dylan, Paul Simon and Art
Garfunkel, Jonny Cash, Tammy Wynette, Roy Orbison, Marty Robbins and
dozens of others. Three weeks ago, the Coles sold their treasure trove
to Clark Enslin, owner of Bullet Records, a small New Jersey label. Now
Enslin is in a legal rumble with heavyweight Sony Music.

Sony says the tapes are stolen goods; Enslin says the tapes are legally
his and that the Japanese-owned giant is trying to "hurt a little
American company. There are cuts of Dylan doing 'Wild Thing' and 'Mr.
Bojangles' that have never been heard, and I have four or five versions
of 'Lay Lady Lay,'" says Enslin.

=======================================================================

--
                                        John Howells
                                        howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov 
                                        howells@earth.arc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John Howells)
Subject: Re: "Rare & Unreleased: Vol. 4-7"
Keywords: Really?
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 13:14:03 GMT

michel@netcom.com (Steve Michel) writes:

<I have it on very good authority that there _will be no more_ bootleg series from Dylan. The fact that the first series was chronological is certainly an indication that they never even planned any more, otherwise they would have put it together more logically. Don't get your hopes up.

But if that's the case, why title the set "Volume 1-3"? That would
indicate more volumes to come, otherwise why not simply "The Bootleg
Series"? In fact, the existence of the word "series" is another tipoff
that there are additional releases planned.

In any case, it appears that the whole project has been abandoned,
either by Dylan himself or by Sony (not enough sales?).

--
                                        John Howells
                                        howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov 
                                        howells@earth.arc.nasa.gov
From: Robert_Broughton@mindlink.bc.ca (Robert Broughton)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Royal Albert Hall, 1965
Date: 29 Jul 92 06:04:57 GMT
Reply-To: Robert_Broughton@mindlink.bc.ca
Organization: The Internet

I read here recently about a CD of this concert that was pretty bad. Has a
decent quality CD been released? If not, how does the "low quality" CD compare
to the vinyl bootleg version that was around during the 70's?
--
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

Robert Broughton    Robert_Broughton@mindlink.bc.ca

"We calm and reassure. We embrace people with the message that we're
all in it together. That our leaders are infallible and that there is
nothing, absolutely nothing wrong." - Miles Drentell, _thirtysomething_
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: hubcap@hubcap.clemson.edu (System Janitor)
Subject: Re: ROLLING STONE RANDOM NOTES
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:56:04 GMT


 * Now for extra points:  Can you pick out young Dylan from the other
 * band members without benefit of the caption?  HINT: You are allowed to
 * use any early Dylan album cover. 

I haven't seen the picture, so I am going to guess what it is 
that makes (Jakob/Zach) stand out: he rolls up the ends of his guitar
strings like his dad does?

-Mike
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: I could be arguing in my spare time <Y79@ucc.uwindsor.ca>
Subject: (none)
Reply-To: Y79@ucc.uwindsor.ca
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 10:39:45 GMT


Some people on the Bruce Cockburn list were discussing how sometimes
the transfer of an artists back catalogue to CD may result in some
tracks getting "faded out" prematurely, or might not sound as good
as the original format. I was wondering 1) Is Dylan's catalogue
now entirely available on CD? (I'm not part of the CD revolution
YET), and if so, have any of these problems occurred with the transfer?
I recall reading of, I think it was the Band's CD package _To Kingdom
Come_ on which apparently a few tracks were cut short or something.

and, 2): (assuming the transfer has been done) Do the Cd's of his early
albums include the liner notes which adorn the vinyl's sleeves and back
covers, etc.

=======================================================================
Jim Kelly                      |
Dept. of Communication Studies |
University of Windsor          |   "Life is a foreign language;
Windsor, Ontario, Canada       |    all men [sic] mispronounce it."
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From: fenick1@husc10.harvard.edu (Sharon Fenick)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: "Rare & Unreleased: Vol. 4-7"
Keywords: Really?
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:03:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Jul21.110311.14018
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Jul20.182401.4171@en.ecn.purdue.edu> prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Dave) writes:
>I just saw in the latest new albums release schedule (posted in 
>rec.music.misc and .info) that "Rare & Unreleased: Vol. 4-7" is
>scheduled for release in February '93.  Anyone else heard anything
>about this?  Any idea what's supposed to be on it?
>
>-- 
>David Prokopy - prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu
>"So walk tall ... or baby, don't walk at all."
> -Bruce Springsteen, "New York City Serenade" (1973)

My resident Dylan expert explained to me that the Bootleg
Series was intended to be a continuing thing, so basically,
these are the next few cd's in the Series.

I'm just wondering - the first 3 were completely chronological,
so adding another 4 is going to mess this up, unless all the material
is from after the last song on the 3rd bootleg cd. 

Any thoughts, information?

Sharon
From: david@cats.ucsc.edu (David Wright)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: INFO on FTP
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:18:28 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
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In article <1992Jul30.184048.25160@ll.mit.edu> nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith) writes:
|In article <schweda.712454612@vincent1.iastate.edu> schweda@iastate.edu (Christopher Schweda) writes:
|>In <1992Jul29.232044.11439@rose.com> paul.fletcher@rose.com (paul fletcher) writes:
|>>Date Entered: 07-29-92 19:16
|>> The archives are at dec2.wu-wien.ac.at
|>
|>Paul,

At the risk of beating a dead horse, you can save your self a lot of
trouble by making a .netrc file, which has the following:


machine dec2.wu-wien.ac.at
login anonymous
password david@cats.ucsc.edu

replace david@cats.ucsc.edu with your own email adress. Then you can probably
log on automatically!
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From: olof@enea.se (Olof Bj|rner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: "Rare & Unreleased: Vol. 4-7"
Keywords: Really?
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:16:20 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB, Sweden

In article <1992Jul21.110311.14018@husc3.harvard.edu> fenick1@husc10.harvard.edu (Sharon Fenick) writes:
 >In article <1992Jul20.182401.4171@en.ecn.purdue.edu> prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Dave) writes:
 >>I just saw in the latest new albums release schedule (posted in 
 >>rec.music.misc and .info) that "Rare & Unreleased: Vol. 4-7" is
 >>scheduled for release in February '93.  Anyone else heard anything
 >>about this?  Any idea what's supposed to be on it?
 >>
 >>-- 
 >>David Prokopy - prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu
 >>"So walk tall ... or baby, don't walk at all."
 >> -Bruce Springsteen, "New York City Serenade" (1973)
 >
 >My resident Dylan expert explained to me that the Bootleg
 >Series was intended to be a continuing thing, so basically,
 >these are the next few cd's in the Series.
 >
 >I'm just wondering - the first 3 were completely chronological,
 >so adding another 4 is going to mess this up, unless all the material
 >is from after the last song on the 3rd bootleg cd. 
 >
 >Any thoughts, information?

Well, according to the liner notes to Vol 1-3, the next volumes are planned
to contain live material. Royal Albert Hall is mentioned ...

 >Sharon
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From: msv@unlinfo.unl.edu (mark vanroojen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Kansas City?
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:32:09 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln

Any more info on that Kansas City festival on September 6 I think it 
was?  What is it?  Where can one get tickets? etc.? etc.?

Thanks!


Mark
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: michel@netcom.com (Steve Michel)
Subject: Re: "Rare & Unreleased: Vol. 4-7"
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 15:31:11 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

Christian Ullsperger <ullsperg@enz.berk.edu> writes:

>certain that within the next twenty years, and certainly after Dylan's
>death, a lot more stuff is going to be made generally available. NONE of
>Dylan's stuff really sells, relatively speaking, so I don't think that's
>such a big issue here.

Well, sure, we're certainly going to get a lot of stuff out within the next
twenty years, and especially after Bob's gone. But I'll stand by my source
that says "no more Bootleg Series" in the foreseeable future.
-- 
"When I need a little free advice about Saddam Hussein, I turn to
country music." -- George Bush, 10/2/91, presumably talking about
the song "Stand By Your Man."
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan