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From: jwblesi@iastate.edu (Jonathan W Blesi)
Subject: Wyoming Bowhunter Weekend in Curt Gowdy Park
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 21:40:49 GMT

Just want to let eveyone know that the Cheyene Field Archers are having
thier annual Outdoor shoot at Curt Gowdy State Park on August first and
second.  Have to register by 12:00 noon and is $15.00 dollars single. 
Can't remeber for sure but think family is $20.00.  
 
40 3-D targets each day.  Camping is free for particapants. Second day
is flighted and shotgun start at 8:00 am so awards can be given on Suday
afternoon.  It's a lot of fun, lots of doorprizes and good payback.  If
you just want to check it out stop by and chat.
Newsgroups: alt.archery
Subject: BOWFISHING
From: csc1210212@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Date: 30 Jul 92 13:11:11 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

Does anyone out there do any bowfishing or am I the only crazy?Comments?
Ive been at it seveeral years and enjoy the sport and the fact that Im
cleaning the lakes up!The pictures turn out good too!



                                           David -SFA



Try it youll like it
Mikey does!
From: ajcd@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Angus Duggan)
Newsgroups: alt.archery
Subject: Re: Sight Marks
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:53:12 GMT
Followup-To: alt.archery
Organization: Edinburgh University Fried Brain Carry-out

In article <54060001@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>, mock@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Steve Mock) writes:
> I am interested in writing a program to set my sight marks.  Ideally,
...
> Does any one know what function, equation, or formula I might use
> to accomplish this?

Depends on the drag of your arrows. I find that a plain linear interpolation
works for me between about 25m and 100m.

a.
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From: akarpowicz@mta.ca (Adam Karpowicz)
Subject: Re: Journal of the Soc. of Archer Antiquaries (was Re: Hungarian bow)
Reply-To: akarpowicz@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 23:52:36 GMT

In article <BrsyF6.L47@knot.ccs.queensu.ca>, lalonde@qucis.queensu.ca (Paul Lalonde) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.002343.14199@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> akarpowicz@mta.ca writes:
>>There was an article in the Journal of the Society of Archer-Antiquaries
>>in 1984, by Dr.Fabian Gyula. He describes an Avar bow from 6th-8th centuries
>	
>	Can anyone give me some contact information for this group?
>I've been looking for something like this for a while...
>
>	Paul


To become a member of the Society of Archer-Antiquaries contact:
Douglas Elmy, Honorary Secretary, 61 Lambert Rd., Bridlington, E.Yorks,
Y016 5RD, UK.  For a yearly subs. of 7 pounds you get an issue of the
Journal + contacts with (very) knowledgable people, especially
in history of archery of all countries of the world.
(If this is what you mean by "contact info for this group")
Adam
From: ajcd@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Angus Duggan)
Newsgroups: alt.archery
Subject: machined risers/olympic teams
Date: 21 Jul 92 11:00:23 GMT
Followup-To: alt.archery
Organization: Edinburgh University Fried Brain Carry-out

The local expiry on this newsgroup is too short, so I can't follow up properly
to these articles properly.

UK Olympic team:

        Gents                           Ladies
        Steve Hallard                   Alison Williamson
        Simon Terry                     Joanne Edens
        Richard Priestman               Sylvia Harris

Machines vs. Cast risers

There are quite a few machined risers coming onto the market in Britain, both
compound and recurve. The UK bows with machined risers I can think of are the
Stylist and Stylist Star (from High Quality Joinery, shot by Steve Hallard,
Simon Terry, and Sylvia Harris), the Advantage (from Pro Shop, shot by Richard
Priestman), the Monarch (from Marksman), and the Merlin Omega compound. There
are also machined risers available from Atletic in France, and shortly from
O.K. in Germany.

Most machined risers are stronger than cast risers, but slightly heavier. They
also seem to fail in a different way, with the riser bending and then tearing
rather than bursting, so there should be more warning of when a riser is about
to break. I'm not a metallurgist, but I do know that the quality of the
billets from which they are machined varies greatly from model to model; I've
heard the developer of one of the risers passing comments about the (inferior)
quality of another's aluminium!

One of the other interesting bows I've seen, but not had a chance to try, is
KG Archery's Nemesis.  This is a carbon fibre/wood laminate riser; I know
someone who has shot it, and it is reported to be *extremely* fast.

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From: SHAFFER@NCST (KELLY SHAFFER)
Newsgroups: alt.archery
Subject: BOWHUNTING JAMBOREE
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:16:58 GMT
Organization: EUTAW FOREST ARCHERS


Eutaw Forest Archers, Inc located off of Route 228 Southern Maryland 
(Charles County) is holding a Bowhunter Jamboree on August 14-16.  
$5.00 per person entry fee will allow registration and entry to live 
demonstration.  There will be Alot of booths and setups for bowhunting
and archery.  If anyone is interested in setting up a demostration or
attending this event Please contact me on 202-767-6553 or (home)
301-753-6448 evenings.

Also, we have Bowhunter Shoots every Thursday with 3-D life size targets.


Life size 3-D targets are used, we also have professionals that can help
and assist you with any questions.

Thank You!!
From: csc1210212@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.archery
Subject: bowfishing
Date: 22 Jul 92 09:26:46 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

Is there anyone out there who is an avid bowfisher like myself?
How about dropping me a line and shooting the bull or buffalo.
List your largest fish of each species.
From: lee@deneb.jsc.nasa.gov (Darrell Lee [MDSSC])
Newsgroups: alt.archery
Subject: "Best" Hunting Bow for the Money??
Date: 23 Jul 1992 14:53:17 GMT
Organization: Software Technology Branch - NASA/JSC
Originator: lee@deneb


I have been bowhunting since I was 15 on a regularly irregular basis. The last year I hunted was 1986 and did very well. Then I went back to college and got a degree, changed jobs, moved to another city and three years ago, got married. Now I believe my life has settled down and I want to get back to enjoying some of it, my new wife agreed 100% and gave me some money to replenish my archery equipment. So I did and have been practicing very consistently for the last month. I am at this point shooting as wel




l as, or better than in 1986, but I found that equipment wise alot has changed. The bow I have now is good but was only considered moderate quality even in 1986. I am planning to hunt with it this one last season and then buy an new for next year.

So that leads to my question. Out of all the hunting bows on the market which ones are considered "best"? I would like to keep the retail value under $600.00. I asked this guy at the local archery shop the same question and he immediatly showed me a Hoyt, Supreme. Is this a good suggestion or was he trying to make a sale on his most expensive?

I understand that the selection of a bow and what is considered "best" will be different for alot of people, so I am not asking for personal opinions. I was hoping someone would be able to recall a comparison they read in an archery magazine, or something like that.
From: acecoder@umiacs.umd.edu (Pierce Leonberger)
Newsgroups: alt.archery
Subject: Starting over..
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:40:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742

When I was younger I was really into archery, mostly recurve though.  I
am interested in starting over.  I would like to purchase a decent compound
bow that will be reliable for hunting and have a maximum pull of about
85 lbs.  I would probably work my way up from 60 lbs.  I've seen several
articles in the past, and I've looked at some bow's in the local stores.  
Browning sticks out in my mind as a decent bow.  I'm not looking for the
state of the art compound bow, but it should be durable and accurate. 

How much should I expect to pay for such a bow and which brand would you
suggest?  I'm not looking to spend a furtune..

Thanks,
Pierce
From: shawn@ut-emx.uucp (Shawn Boyd)
Newsgroups: alt.archery
Subject: Re: Olympic opening ceremony
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:55:27 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin; Austin, Texas

In article <1992Jul27.122822.8523@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> (J. Hamilton) writes:
>I just wanted to say THANK YOU to whoever posted the note about
>the Olympic torch being lit by flaming arrow... that was really
>the only reason I tuned in to watch the opening ceremony, and it
>was really something to see, really incredible. Wow.  Thanks! :)
>
>-j.

 It was a beautiful shot.  I heard that they gave the arrow to Jim Easton,
 and that Easton Inc. provided the arrows for the practice shots.

 I wish I had a tape of it.

 Shawn
Newsgroups: alt.archery
From: sdh@po.CWRU.Edu (Scott D. Heavner)
Subject: Archery on NBC???
Reply-To: sdh@po.CWRU.Edu (Scott D. Heavner)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 03:11:26 GMT


	I have heard a rumor that NBC will broadcast a full
twelve minutes of archery during their coverage.  Has anyone else
heard such a rumor, and even better, does anyone know when those
twelve minutes will be aired?

				Scott

-- 
"Then they always say things like that after a winter storm      {Ogden Nash}
 The snow is a white blanket.  Oh it is, is it, all right then, you sleep
  under a six-inch blanket of snow and I'll sleep under a half-inch blanket
  of some unpoetical blanket material and we'll see which one keeps warm,"
Newsgroups: alt.archery
From: daryl@dman.b24a.ingr.com (Daryl Owens)
Subject: Long Bow Sales
Organization: Intergraph Corporation
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:15:56 GMT

I have been following this group for a few weeks now and am trying to 
get back into the swing of things after a fifteen year absence from
archery.  My officemate has asked me to post the following request for 
information.
                      * * * * *

Does any know where we can get the names of manufacturers and/or stores
that sell Long Bows (preferably all wood construction) in the 50-60 lb
range.

BTW, thanks for posting the information on the Society of Archer-
Antiquaries.  I will probably be writing to them this week.

Thanks in advance,

 - Daryl -

From: mock@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Steve Mock)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:51:50 GMT
Subject: Sight Marks
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: alt.archery

I am interested in writing a program to set my sight marks.  Ideally,
I would like to sight in at two distances, say 20 & 69 yards, and then
input these distances into the program which would then print out the
appropriate sight settings for all of the field and hunter distances
on a field archery range.

Does any one know what function, equation, or formula I might use
to accomplish this?

Thanks,

steve

Newsgroups: alt.archery
From: ajcd@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Angus Duggan)
Newsgroups: alt.archery
Subject: Re: Olympic opening ceremony
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:27:36 GMT
Followup-To: alt.archery
Distribution: uk
Organization: Edinburgh University Fried Brain Carry-out

In article <1992Jul28.114427.236@dcs.warwick.ac.uk>, arf@maths.warwick.ac.uk (Anthony Iano-Fletcher) writes:
> Does anyone know if/when the BBC are going to show any archery in the UK?

Radio Times lists the team competition on Tue 4th August.

a.
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From: tang@akofin.enet.dec.com (Gabe Tang)
Subject: Re: Slapping forearm
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 31 JUL 92 12:49:40 EST


re: (Tim Rigg) 

>I was trying to get tighter groups and wondered if I was hitting my
>forearm.  So I took off my arm guard and proceeded to make a pretty
>nice bruise on my forearm with the bowstring.  
>What sort of measures are recommended to fix this problem?  I already
>use a bow-sling which I thought was supposed to help.
>Any suggestions would be appreciated.  There are only 50 days 'til
>archery season opens...

tim,
	More than likely, you are suffering from the problem most archers
	experience at one time or another in their shooting career. The
	arm, from the elbow up to the shoulder is rotated in such a way
	that the elbow is pointing downward. Many experienced archers
	therefore learn to turn their arm in such a way as to have the elbow
	face outward, parallel to the ground. The secret is to rotate the
	shoulder, not the wrist,in order to get the elbow to rotate and
	allow more string clearance. If you have initial difficulty in doing
	this.....put your hand against a wall and lean on it so that the
	hand/wrist cannot rotate. Then, do what must be done to have the
	elbow rotate. By default, your should/rotator cuff has to move.
	When the elbow rotates that 40 degrees or so, you may find that
	might give you just enough clearnace to shoot without an arm guard
	and not get slapped by the string. of course, practice is necessary
	to get used to the new movement. You will notice that many of the
	better archers do this also. otherwise, keep on wearing the arm guard.

ttfn,
Newsgroups: alt.archery
From: frederic@atdiodie.cern.ch (Frederic Saunier)
Subject: Re: Olympic Opening Ceremony 
Keywords: Archery!
Organization: CERN (European Laboratory for Particle Physics), Geneva, Switzerland
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 09:45:04 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.083854@hlrz24.hlrz.kfa-juelich.de>, melin@hlrz24.hlrz.kfa-juelich.de (S. Melin) writes:
 So if someone from spain is reading this, is it true or have I been
> dreaming that an archer gets prime time on the TV?

Ya, i have heard the same. But let's notice, that this is a
fair compensation for this sport. i learnt yesterday that archery
will be removed from the next Olympic Games !
can someone confirm ? does anyone know what has motivated this
decision of the Olympic Committee ?

Regards,
----  Frederic Saunier
email:  saunier@vxeng.cern.ch  or: saunier@cernvm.bitnet
Phone: +41 22 767 5949           Fax: +41 22 783 02 21
Snail: CERN, Division AT, CH-1211 GENEVE 23
or: CERN Site de Prevessin, Division AT, F-01631 CERN CEDEX
--
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     the interval.
                -- G. Santayana
From: ajcd@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Angus Duggan)
Newsgroups: alt.archery
Subject: Re: Long distance record
Date: 23 Jul 92 08:49:09 GMT
Followup-To: alt.archery
Organization: Edinburgh University Fried Brain Carry-out

In article <1992Jul22.234107.22139@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>, akarpowicz@mta.ca (Adam Karpowicz) writes:
> In article <RIGG.92Jul22095842@osnome.che.wisc.edu>, rigg@osnome.che.wisc.edu (Tim Rigg) writes:
> >Amazing.  I was just browsing through a Guiness Book of World Records
> >this weekend and noticed this record.  The maximum distance is
> >something like 2300 yards using a "footbow". They had a picture of
>
> How about a "hand" bow?

I don't have the reference to hand, but one of the US Archer magazines last
year (I think) had a report on the US National Flight Championships. The
longest shot with an unlimited flight compound bow was over 2km. (The bow was
a very short axle compound with a massive overdraw, and a peak weight of >100
pounds.)

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Newsgroups: alt.archery
From: melin@hlrz24.hlrz.kfa-juelich.de (Stephan Melin)
Subject: Re: Slapping forearm
Organization: Forschungszentrum Juelich GmbH (KFA), Germany
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:49:47 GMT
X-Posted-From: hlrz24.hlrz.kfa-juelich.de
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu


In article <RIGG.92Jul30134516@osnome.che.wisc.edu>, rigg@osnome.che.wisc.edu (Tim Rigg) writes:
|> I was trying to get tighter groups and wondered if I was hitting my
|> forearm.  So I took off my arm guard and proceeded to make a pretty
|> nice bruise on my forearm with the bowstring.  
|> 
|> What sort of measures are recommended to fix this problem?  I already
|> use a bow-sling which I thought was supposed to help.
|> 
|> Any suggestions would be appreciated.  There are only 50 days 'til
|> archery season opens...
|> 
|> tim
[stuff deleted]

It's a little bit difficult giving suggestions how to fix this problem 
without being able to see how you shoot, but I'm going to try anyway.

After clearing the arrow the string oscillates a bit back and forth, so
if it slaps your bowarm then, this doesn't affect your shooting.

If this is not the case, then I suggest:
a Check the bow-arm's elbow. It should point outside (at nine o'clock for
  a right hand archer).  (very likely)
b Check how you position your hand on the bow. The wrist and the hand should
  be aligned with your bow-arm, if you grip your bow too much inwards (in the
  direction of the arrow) the bow gets a kick upon release which causes it to
  turn right (string goes left). Also you put your forearm even closer to the
  string...  (unlikely, but not impossible)
c If all of the above doesn't help, ask an experienced archer to look...
   
I hope this helps....
 

Good shooting
 
Stephan Melin

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Newsgroups: alt.archery
Subject: BOWHUNTING FOR DUCKS???
From: csc1210212@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Date: 30 Jul 92 13:17:57 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

Has any one tried archery for ducks?Ive had opportunities before and
believe it can be done- Of course a line may have to be attached to the 
arrow,but I see this as a challenge.Anyone interested in planning a trip
in Texas.               
                          David-SFA




Back to the basics-Indian Style!!!!!!
From: acecoder@umiacs.umd.edu (Pierce Leonberger)
Newsgroups: alt.archery
Subject: Ok.. here are some bows..
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:09:51 GMT
Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742


Ok..  I've thumbed through a couple of magazines and finally found one with
some decent information on Compound Bows.  Here they are.  I'm only listing
the ones that were in my price range.

Golden Eagle "Predator TS" $159.99
   65-80# 
   Length : 41"
   Weight : 4 lb 2 oz.
   Draw   : 29" - 31"
   65% let off

 PSE "Polaris" $114.99
   60-70#
   Length : 41"
   Weight : ??
   Draw   : 30" - 32"
   AMO String length = 35"
   65% let off

 Browning "Huntsman" $149.99 
   55-70#
   Length : 40.25"
   Weight : 3.7 lbs
   Draw   : 28.5" - 31.5"
   recurved, 65% let off

 Browning "The Bridger" $169.95
   45-70#
   Length : 42"
   Weight : 4 lbs 8 oz
   Draw   : 29" - 32"
   65% let off

  Bear "Super Mag 44" $154.99
   55-70#
   Length : 44"
   Weight : 4.3 lbs
   Draw   : 30" - 32"
   Posi-lock, recurved, 60% let off
  
  Bear "First Strike" $154.99
   65-80#
   Length : 42"
   Weight : ??
   Draw   : 30" - 32"
   Posi-lock, 65% let off


Well there they are.  I'm kinda skeptical of BEAR bows, mostly because of all
the bad comments I have heard about them.  The PSE Polaris is really cheap, but
it is hard to believe that it's a good bow (because of the price).  I'm kinda
leaning towards the Predator TS (Golden Eagle) or the Huntsman (Browning).  
I've never owned either one of these bows before so all comments/suggestions
will be appericated.
 
Thanks,
Pierce
 
P.S.  is there any benefit or disadvantage to having a recurved compound bow?
Newsgroups: alt.archery
From: akarpowicz@mta.ca (Adam Karpowicz)
Subject: Long distance record
Reply-To: akarpowicz@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 00:34:03 GMT

Hi,
Does anyone know what is the recent record in long distance shooting?
What was the type/construction of the bow used?
Thanks
Adam
From: lee@deneb.jsc.nasa.gov (Darrell Lee [MDSSC])
Newsgroups: alt.archery
Subject: Bows and more Bows
Date: 31 Jul 1992 13:26:21 GMT
Organization: Software Technology Branch - NASA/JSC
Originator: lee@deneb


Well, last week I posted a general question about the "best" bow on the market 
today, because I have been out of bowhunting for about 5 or 6 years. I recieved
several very helpful replies, my thanks to those that took the time to write me.

All of the replies mentioned that the selection of a bow is a personal choice and the wise buyer shoots before he buys. I saved off these replies, at the time, because I was planning to buy the new bow next summer.

Last Tuesday night, after I finished shooting in a local bowhunters tournament
I discovered that the limbs on my bow had splintered and cracked near the end
where the limb forks for the cam. So, the bow shopping began, at a heated pace,
a year early.

I when to two different shops in my area (Houston, Tx) and shot many different
bows, making the salesmen set the draw weights exactly the same for all bows.
I brought four to five into the range at one time and shot one after another,
eliminating the ones that didn't feel right, or were too loud, etc., etc. Until
I would have a "winner" out of that group of bows. I would then get another group and do the same thing. Etc., etc,.

At each shop the "winners" were made by Alpine Archery. The two models were the Rebel and the Serria Magnum. Quick shooting, comfortable anchor, smooth draw and very quiet. I could not tell the difference between the two bows, and I liked the "Mossy Oak" camo job on the Rebel better than the "Grey Ghost Camo" on the Magnum, so it was my final choice. The best part, I was perpared to spend as much as $370.00 for a bow, the price at my archery shop for the Rebel is $255.00.

Conclusion, well I'm happy becaause I got the one I liked without price becoming a problem, and my wife is happy...for the same reason.



Thanks again for the replies, good luck and good hunting,

Darrell
Newsgroups: alt.archery
From: tang@akofin.enet.dec.com (Gabe Tang)
Subject: Re: Waterproof Fletching
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 29 JUL 92 12:48:30 EST


In article <1992Jul28.100707@deneb.jsc.nasa.gov>, lee@deneb.jsc.nasa.gov (Darrell Lee [MDSSC]) writes...
> 
>This hunting season I am planning to switch from plastic vanes to feathers
>on my hunting arrows. Can any one tell me a good odorless way to waterproof
>them?
> 

Darrell,

	Is Silicon considered odorous? Spray or bottle-liquid might do the
	trick. and a lot cheaper than most brand-name applications that
	contain mostly silicon and then the extra whatever that distinguish
	it at the higher prices.

ttfn,
Newsgroups: alt.archery