From: tom@tredysvr.Tredydev.Unisys.COM (Tom Albrecht)
Newsgroups: alt.messianic
Subject: Re: introduction and questions
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:42:18 GMT
Organization: Unisys, Applied Technology, Malvern, PA


Bill Carlson wrote:
> 
>          -=> Quoting Malachi Robertson to All <=-
>  MR> --What is the MJs view of what will occur during the Millenium?
>       Basically the same as the Baptist, AoG, and Orthodox Judaism;
>       that Messiah will reign over the Nations with a rod of iron from
>       Yerushalayim.

I'm a little surprised at this answer for several reasons.

First of all, I was not aware that Messianic Jews were this united on their
view of eschatology.  We have often been told in the newsgroup that the
UMJC, for instance, is a collection of independent thinkers.  Is there an
"official" MJ position on the Millennium that one must subscribe to in
order to be considered an MJ?  How can you be sure that Messianic Jews hold
this vision of the Millennium?  Are you aware of the existence of other
Jewish Christian who hold to another view of the Millennium (if you aren't,
you should be)?  Are they not counted as Messianic Jews?

Second, there are many Baptists who do not hold to this Jewish view of the
Millennium.  In fact, there is no official Baptist position on
eschatological questions.  Many Reformed Baptists, like Spurgeon, were/are
non-millenarians (Spurgeon was a postmillennialist).

Finally, while the AOG is the only denomination that is "officially"
premillennial, they represent a minority within biblical Christianity.  And
not even all AOGers subscribe to the Jewish Millennium theory you've
outlined.

>  MR> --Do MJs believe that Jesus will conduct the antitypical Day of
>  MR> Atonement just as he is conducting the antitypical daily
>  MR> sacrifices?
>       The Prince, as mentioned in Tanakh, being Messiah; will re-
>       establish the Temple Ordinances, as we see Tanakh declare.

Well, sort of.  It's hard to take the prophecy of Ezekiel "literally" since
it also says that the "Prince" will make a "sin offering" for himself as
well as for the people (cf. Ez. 45:22).  We know from Hebrews that unlike
the earthly priests, Jesus was without sin and therefore did not need to
offer up an sin offering for Himself (Heb. 7:26-28).

>  MR> --What are the MJ views concerning what happens after death?
>       To be absent from the body is the be present with the L-rd;
>       speaking of the spirit of regenerated man.  The body & soul
>       sleep awaiting the Day of the Resurrection and Judgement.

Is that the resurrection and judgment before the Millennium or after? 
Where are these folks during the future Millennium when Christ is reigning
on the earth?  Have they been resurrected, and united body and soul?   Are
they on earth with Jesus living as immoral men among the moral?

>  MR> --Do the MJs have any views concerning the apocalyptic prophecies
>  MR> of Daniel and Revelation?
>       The senerio is about the same as Baptist, AoG, and Rabbinic lit.,
>       as to the the time of Ya'akov's trouble, the final battle; etc...
>  {These answers are brief; and don't completely answer the questions}

See my comments above.

-- 
Tom Albrecht