From: kstewart@ptdcs2.intel.com (Kent Stewart)
Subject: Re: Some Warriors jokes
Organization: Intel Corporation -- Aloha, Oregon
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:29:42 GMT

>
>What do earthquakes and Warriors first round playoff losses have in
>common?
>
>Both are relatively frequent Bay Area occurrences but everyone
>seems surprised when they happened.


Quick quiz, Chuckie:  How frequent have these 1st round losses been
                      since Nelson joined the organization?



BZZZZZZZTTTT!!!

Okay, Chuckie, we'll tell you. The Warriors have made the playoffs 4 of the
5 years since Nelson joined the team, and they've lost in the first round
*once*.

87-88  Warriors d. Jazz in 5
88-89  rebuilding year (everybody but Mullin gone, doomed Samson trade),~37wins
89-90  Warriors d. Jazz in 3  
90-91  Warriors d. Spurs in 4
91-92  Sonics (Hedgehogs? 8^) d. Warriors in 4


Look, we've got enough real troubles without revisionist history. Being
good without being great or extremely deep is the hardest position to 
improve from in the NBA.  Not enough expendable depth for major trades
and consistantly poor draft position.  And a salary cap which prevents
you from simply waving a lot of money at the free agents would could 
make the difference.

Even this year, when we're so decimated with major injuries that we
shouldn't be able to match up with teams, we probably won't lose enough
games to get a lottery pick.  I almost wish we would.

I'm getting tired of hearing this myth that Nelson is such a fatally flawed 
coach.  One of his biggest weaknesses has been overachieving consistantly 
with a roster with a lot of marginal talent on it. When a rebuilding team 
plays over .500 behind the likes of T*m T*lbert, Manute Bol, Jim Peterson,
Alton Lister and ? Mokeski, you never get the high lottery picks rebuilding
teams need, because you keep making the damned playoffs.  The only
year we *did* make the lottery, we won enough games to be in the 10th
slot out of 11, and then got bumped down to 11 in the lottery! 

I wouldn't even answer this flame-bait in the guise of humor if it
weren't admitedly frustrating to be a warrior fan during this disasterous
season.  Still your "jokes" have little basis in reality.

a) Mullin can't get the ball

   Chris is having one of his best seasons, even though teams are keying 
   on him.

b) Hardaway won't pass the ball

   It's just a fluke that he's consistantly in double-figure assists
   this season?

c) Nelson can't coach.

   Tell you what.  Take a good look at the rosters of the Warriors and
   the Utah Jazz.  Both at the bigging of the year when we opened in Utah
   and a week or two ago when we played in Oakland.

   I look at those two rosters and I can't give you a reasonable
   scenario in which the warriors win those games. We simply should not
   be able to match up. 

   How do the Warriors win this kind of game, when the advantage in raw
   talent clearly belongs to the other team?

   How do they also win this sort of game two out of three years in the
   first round of the playoffs?  (Anyone who believes last year's Warriors
   team was deeper than last years Seattle team is delusional)

   They win these games because of the environment Nelson creates and the
   efforts of a handful of fearless overachievers he acquires to play in it.

It's true that overachieving gets you to the 1st round of the playoffs
a lot more frequently than it will get you to the finals.  But to call
someone a loser for consistantly overachieving under trying circumstances, 
even under the guise of "humor", seems extremely clueless.

--humorless warrior fan 
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