From: ibm01@acci.com.au (William Lo - Elvis? I am!)
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japan
Organization: IBM/Australia/Australian Computing and Communications Institute
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 03:36:20 GMT

MISPOST a couple minutes ago:
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Sorry, the other one which doesn't seem to have an author, is honestly mine. A mistake again,
and I really wasn't putting things on - so, my apologies here. Lots of them...


In article <92Aug20.102845edt.160@orasis.vis.toronto.edu>, liuyh@vis.toronto.edu (Yuanhui Liu) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug20.003556.16931@gibdo.engr.washington.edu> tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu writes:
|> >In article <4329@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> news@comlab.ox.ac.uk writes:
|> >>>In article <FELIX.92Aug16112918@crowfix.com> felix@crowfix.com (Felix Finch) writes:
|> >>>I also missed the more recent apologies of the Chinese
|> >>>rulers to their own people for Tianmen (sp?) Square.
|> >>
|> >>So Chinese people should accept both massacres because two governments
|> >>refuse to apologize.  Remarkable.
|> >>
|> >>-- T.H. Tse
|> >
|> >No. I think the point is that Chinese should demand change (in the
|> >form of apologies, revised textbooks, etc.) from their own gov't just
|> >as much or more than they do of Japan. Japan won't listen and won't
|> >apologize if China's position appears to be hypocritical in such
|> >matters. If your position is consistent I have no problem with it. If
|> >you apply Japan to a different standard than your own country I do
|> >have a problem with it.
|> >
|> >In fact, the point is that you *shouldn't* accept either massacre.  It
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	Quite apparently because we *CANNOT*.


|> >appears the Chinese people have silently accepted the Tianmen Massacre
|> >because I don't see any public movements to demand an apology for that
|> >atrocious act of the Chinese Gov't. In that light it appears somewhat


	This isn't true. The Chinese people haven't accepted (and never will) 
the Tianmen Massacre. The majority remain silence obviously because they've
become more cautious, and are under coersion. 


|> >hypocritical to put so much effort into changing the policies of a
|> >gov't that isn't even your own when you appear to have plenty of work
|> >to do at home in China.


	Regretfully, I admit, that we now have a downright defective gov't
running by some("a small number of") absolute deadshits who can do nothing but
botch things against the people, don't and won't believe in people's rights.
These all add up. And sure we need a change(a drastic one you know) as quickly as
possible - not in a day or 2, we know it's probably gonna take some time.
	Yes, we've got some nasty work to do at home, but I don't like your
supposition that we have to preclude doing anything else that we deem to be
important. Justice and truth are truly important - in every sense. If you don't
understand which is quit improbable...dunno, but you may as well call yourself an
outsider you know.

 
|> Okay then, so put of the apology to China.  I didn't hear any 
|> Japanese apologies to North & south Korea, Chinese government in Taiwan, 
|> the Philippines, Malaysia, Burma, Vietnam, Laos, Indonesia, Camboalia[sp?],
|> Singapore, Hong Kong, Indonesia, the hundreds of thoudsands of kidnapped
|> military prostitutes from all over East & South East Asia, and from
|> Japan herself.  the hundreds of thou
	The impenitent Japanese gov't is just too embarrassed to recommit anything.
But you can't just hide youself away forever, or you're a bloody idiot for sure. 
Everything they did was, is, and still WILL BE there - it is the fact. Time will tell.  


---Good on you mate,
	Bill
	 
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dsands POWs in death camps from US, Canada,
|> Britian, the non-white POWs it masscared(you guys really got off easy,
|> don't you know that?)  the millions forced laborers from all over 
|> East & South East Asia, the people they used for live germ-warfare experiements,
|> the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor.  
|> 
|> Let's face it, they just won't apologize to ANYBODY.  Who's
|> being hypocritical?   
|>