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From: rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Making Waffle Fido-compatible?
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 06:31:39 CDT
Organization: Network XXIII - +1 608 222 9253

jabr@ra.cs.umb.edu (John M. Abreau) writes:

| I'm running Waffle 1.65 as a UUCP hub for the Boston Computer Society,
| and I need to connect to our various Fido-based BBSes. I looked at
| UFGATE and FredGate, but I haven't been able to make much sense of them;
| they seem to assume that they're running on the Fido end, not the UUCP
| end.
| 
| Has anyone else successfully done this?

I've written software to do this.

However, I've not been able to verify that my Fidonet packets are valid
and contain valid messages etc etc.  I have been, however, receiving
Fidonet echos on my BBS for some time.  I could release that half of
the gateway, I suppose; but I hate to release only part of my gateway.

I'm currently looking into finding a Fidonet host to test my packets on.


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From: bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: replies going to wrong address, vms list
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:15:53 GMT
Organization: Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA

kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle) writes:

> > VMS-Daemon.  Is this a feature?
> 
> Another feature I have found... when I get a mail message from
> Vmail with "Re:" in the subject line, and then reply to that
> message, yet another "Re:" is added to the subject line.
> 
> "Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:".. well, you get the idea.

Sounds like an Aretha Franklin tune. All it needs is the '...spect.'
:-)

--- 
Bob Kirkpatrick <bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us>
Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA
From: vds7789@aw2.fsl.ca.boeing.com (Vincent D. Skahan)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Unix vs. DOS version...
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:23:12 GMT
Organization: none

elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) writes:

>VMS -- is there a *nix version of the mail server, or one of the other ones?  I
>like the fact that VMS handles both file server and mailing list functions.  If
>no *nix version, I'd like some suggestions on a replacement.

there are dozens of unix mail servers, though none (IMHO) with the ease of
setup and use of VMS.  A couple/few weeks ago I asked and the question was
that VMS was dos-specific at this time.

Most of them seem to run off of a system alias or a pipe through your .forward
file, which is no big deal if your *nix can handle it.

I have 'linux' (public domain unix) up at home and have Waffle compiled and
working fine there.  Problem is that its uucp/mail functionality doesn't appear
to handle .forward files, so I can't run any of the mail/fileservers I can find
under that variant of *nix.

>WafMail -- I've got lots of users who like the convenience of using QWK
>packets.  Back when I was a fidonet node, I didn't bother with the offline
>readers, and just told everyone who wanted that luxury to become a point
>system.  I suppose I could do something similar, but if there's a *nix version,
>I'd like to retain the feature.

I'm pretty sure there is one...just can't remember the darn file name.

>My problem here is that I'm familiar with *nix as an OS, but not as a medium
>for news/mail.  All of the sites I've worked on have never bothered with mail,
>so this is a new world for me.  TIA for any advice, suggestions.

Tom might hate me for this, but there's really no reason to run Waffle on a
personal-only system under unix because almost all of its functionality is
easily available with *nix.

You can grab C-news/uucp/elm/smail pretty easily and get a 'real' unix system
compiled and up under most *nixes.

Now if you want to run a *nix BBS, Waffle is a great choice...
 
-- 
   ---------   Vince Skahan   -----------   vince@atc.boeing.com   ---------   
	I've finally realized that if you throw enough money and bodies
	at non-existant problems, that they really do appear...
From: stu@valinor.mythical.com (Stu Labovitz)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Running a "setup" job after new user signup
Keywords: 1.65, signup, *DO
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 13:42:47 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: (What? Organized??) - Mythical Computer Systems

Once again, I find myself trying to solve a problem that I _know_ was
discussed in c.b.w earlier this summer....

After a new user completes the questionnaire found in
/waffle/system/signup, I would like to invoke a batch file to send the new
user a mail message (and other things).  The *DO !doscommand structure in
the signup file gives me some of what I need, but if I use something like
  *DO !setup %A    I find that %A evaluates to "default" (just like the
documentation claims).  I would like to pass the `true' values of the
variables %A and %W to my batch file --- how do all of you other Waffle
Wizards do this???

Many, many thanks in advance!

   Stuart L Labovitz                    Internet:  stu@valinor.mythical.com
    (insert standard disclaimer here)       UUCP:   uunet!valinor!stu

   Duct tape is like the force.  It has a light side, a dark side,
      and it holds the universe together.      --- Carl Zwanzig
=============================================================================
From: Bob Van Cleef <revc@Garg.Campbell.CA.US>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: I/O redirect
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 21:06:41 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Land of Garg

A quick question:

I have some batch files that I envoke with CRON. In the schedule
file I have the output redirected to logfiles.

58  * * * * expire -t -k	> c:\waffle\admin\expire.log
58 14 * * * filelist		> c:\waffle\admin\filelist.log
58 10 * * * clean-up		> c:\waffle\admin\clean-up.log

The log files for the binary program "expire" is updated in a
normal fashion. However, the log files for the batch files
"filelist" and "clean-up" are "touched, but left empty.

CLEAN-UP LOG         0 09-13-92  10:58a
EXPIRE   LOG      4297 09-13-92   8:58p
FILELIST LOG         0 09-13-92   2:58p

I seem to remember that this worked under 1.64, but something changed
with the upgrade to 1.65.

Bob

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The Land of Garg BBS             /|\               BBS (408) 378-5108
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From: fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: RWMAIL Avail in US?
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:49:12 GMT
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

In article <jbla02582920815115402@giraffe.in-berlin.de> jbla@giraffe.in-berlin.de (Johannes Blankenstein) writes:
|walsh@cbnews.cb.att.com (john.p.walsh) writes:
|> Are the files for RWMAIL(146 & 216) and NN271 available for
|> FTP capture within the US?
|
|I'm sorry! As we don't have FTP access we can't load it up to a FTP
|server.

I uploaded nn271.zoo and rwm216.zoo to halcyon.com:/pub/incoming .
I got them last night from mail-server@giraffe.in-berlin.de .

  Bill
From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: A handy fast hack
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 13:49:15 CDT
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

If you're running 1.65 with 4dos, here's something you can do with the
'C' command from the 'Awaiting Call...' screen.

Change the 'CHROME' in RUN.BAT to 'CALL CHROME', and put the chrome.bat
below in your /waffle/bin directory.  Then, make a textfile called
'util.lst' in /waffle/bin that has the names of utilities you'd like to
call from the waiting screen.  I use this to pull up a fast uuq, or
diskfree, or to see the last uupoll summary.  It will call exe's,
aliases or batch files.  No extensions needed in the util.lst file.  (if
your /waffle/bin isn't on drive c:, edit the path in the %@select
command)

Enjoy!

---- cut here for chrome.bat ---
setlocal
set response=%@select[c:\waffle\bin\util.lst,10,10,20,25,Utilities]
iff isalias %response then
    %response
else
    set cmd=%@search[%response]
    iff %@ext[%cmd] == "bat" .or. %@ext[%cmd] == "btm" then
        call %cmd
    else
        %cmd
    endiff
endiff
---- cut here for chrome.bat ---

---- cut here for util.lst---
uusum
ddf
uuq
---- cut here for util.lst---
--
              Villa CyberSpace, virtually yours since 1988
                         roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu
       "In cyberspace, nobody has to clean the hot tub."
                                                       -- me
From: morpheus@entropy.mcds.com (morpheus)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: UUCICO is confused.
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 09:20:56 EDT
Organization: Whoever you vote for, the government still gets elected.

roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes:

> in UUSHELL.BAT.  So how come UUCICO is seeing 19200?  I've kluged a
> solution with 'uucico -b2400 -r0', but I'd rather have this work as the
> manual specifies.

I dunno, but my uucico says 600 bps over here.. Locking at 19200 with X00.

Relax... it works, right?  ;-)

Speaking of bps kludges, if anyone's running waffle under Binkleyterm 2.50+ with
Lockbaud /Arq enabled on an HST or Telebit, this works great in spawnbbs.bat...

(translating X00 commands to BNU commands may be necessary, of course)

xu lock:0:%1
waffle online %2 limit %4
xu lock:0:OFF

This gives an accurate bps-rate to waffle for the caller list, and allows you
to only lock the port high if it's an error correcting call (straight 2400 bps
callers will love being able to abort text displays again!)

Just in case you want to know what the hell I'm talking about, spawnbbs is
called with  (in 2.50 and up)

  %1 = speed of the computer-to-modem link rate in bps
  %2 = caller's connect rate reported by the modem
  %4 = time to next event
  %5 = extended information in the modem connect string (/ARQ, etc)

It'd be neat to be able to pass %5 to waffle, just for the hell of it.  Maybe
put it in a %variable.  Could have a "Connection at 14400/Arq/V32/Lapm/V42bis"
type line in your welcome file.  It'd be useful for remote callers debugging
their el-cheapo BOCA modems, at any rate...

maybe change the command line parms to something similiar to

waffle online [bps] limit [time] result [string]

waffle online 14440 limit 666 result /Arq/Hst/Hst



--
  "The Hell Law says that Hell is reserved exclusivly for them that believe in
  it. Further, the lowest Rung in Hell is reserved for them that believe in it
  on supposition that they'll go there if they don't."-the Principia Discordia

         morpheus@entropy.mcds.com  /\/\/\/  f208.n2606.z1.fidonet.org
From: mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: "orphan" folder
Summary: A work-around and some helpful bat files.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 19:35:33 PDT
Organization: Muth Valley Seismic Control District, San Diego, CA / Port2

amillar@bolis.SF-Bay.Org (Alan Millar) writes:

> kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle) writes:
> 
> > I just noticed a bounced email message, and tried to go into
> > the "orphan" folder via SYSMAIL to look at it. There was no
> > new mail, so I got the "To:" prompt. Exited, and tried SYSMAIL *
> > to get a list of folders. I got a list of my OWN folders, not
> > system's folders. Is there something I am overlooking here?
> 
> I just asked about this last week.  Nobody has responded with an
> answer of how to do it with waffle.  A few mentioned dos tricks,
> but most don't seem to care about bounces.  I'll post my trick pretty
> soon.

I use RWMAIL to look into the system and root folders.  More
convienent and gets around the sysmail * problem.  I run them
generally inside a seperate Desqview window which is very
simple and quicker than logging in as root or system.

I use a bat file (called sysadmin.bat) that does amoung other
things, looks for various abnormal files.  If it finds
\user\system\orphan.i, it will email my account a notice of that.
Same with \spool\lost\*.D, \spool\unbatch\*.*, and a few others.
This is called via the scheduler each night.

Another bat file runs once weekly and send me stats on the sytem,
free space, diskhog, etc.  It's nice to have the system generate
this stuff automaticly rather than the ole manual file
lister/shell method when you finally realize that something is
amiss.

If anyone would like to see the bat files for some ideas, lemme
know.


btw--I'm not sure my posts are making out into the real world.
Would appreciate an acknowledgement from either of the above
quoted authors...thanks

--
     Mike, WB6WUI   //   INET:  mikey@slic.cts.com   //   GEnie: SLIC
From: dawson@willard.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Problems with NEWSdir
Date: 5 Sep 92 15:58:12 GMT
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

mvdl@et.tudelft.nl writes:

> We're having a little trouble with subdirectories created by UUXQT for the
> NEWS-directory... somehow this is not very stable in DOS, and as a result we
> often have many lost- en crosslinked clusters...

I'd say you've got some problems.. but I wouldn't blame Waffle for them.
I've never had a lost cluster nor any crosslinked clusters in any file or
directory associated with Waffle.  But, I don't use Stacker.

> I wonder: could this problem be solved by using a fake-volume for this news-
> directory... Just a file that pretents to be a drive ? (somewhat like a 
> stacker-volume, but UNcompressed and very good at subdirectories etc.)..

Actually, the problem could be solved quite easily, by treating the cause.
You've not shown the cause (Waffle is NOT the cause).  Unless, that is, the
real answer is "Stacker."  (This is not a flame of stacker.  It is a weak
defense of MS-DOS and Waffle.  Caveat emptor.)

> Is there such a program ? (which ?)
>  
> TIA,
>  
> Michel.

-- 
dawson@willard.UUCP (Willard Dawson)
Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814
From: dkw@wolferts.ka.sub.org (Klaus Wolferts)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: sig length in waffle
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 12:10:54 MESZ
Distribution: world               
Organization: Ing'Buro f. EDV + Elektronik, D-7500 Karlsruhe 31

donal@brewich.hou.tx.us (Donal) writes:
>
> dkw@wolferts.ka.sub.org (Dr. Klaus Wolferts) writes:
> 
> > Is there any restriction in the length of a sig in waffle (1.64)?
> > ....
> > and I registered in the mean time, that the last line is omitted when 
> > waffle sends postings or mails (look at the sig at the end, inserted 
> > from Waffle). I even included another CR/LF at the end of the sig file 
> > but it doesn't help. 
> > Will Waffle restrict or cut the sig length to 4 lines? 
> > 
> > Any ideas?  Klaus.
>
> Do you perhaps have an imbedded ^Z in your SIg after the 4th line?
> All file reads done in waffle use ^Z as end-of-file. This is a problem
> in some places because waffle's builtin editor inserts a ^Z at the 
> end-of-file, but most editor's do not, so it is possible to leave an 
> imbedded ^Z in the file.
> 
There is no ^Z in the sig file, not even at the end.

Klaus


Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Re: "Queued for Internet %-Route delivery"
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:34:03 GMT

In article <Roq5qB2w165w@ruth.UUCP> rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt) writes:
|What is the significance of that line?  I got it a moment ago in mail.
|Just curious is all.  Never seen it before.

Probably because you've never sent mail with no @-sign before.  Waffle prints
that message when you send mail to someone like "fenner%cs.psu.edu", with
no @ sign.  This isn't technically a legal address, but lots of sites happen
to accept it.

  Bill
From: system@precipice.chi.il.us (Vikki Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: auto-ata: ATA
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 08:05:04 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Welch Research

Hi Again,

  Finally got the system online full time and REALLY liking the
auto-ata idea, I implemented it.  However when I get a call it
barfs on a CATA to the modem (the auto-ata: is set to ATA not
CATA).  With all the problems with box of rocks 2400s <>
v32bis/v42 modems I set the call in line to an old (box of rocks)
2400 - it DOES support ATA.  Have I found a bug here ? Is anyone
else using this feature ?

  Here in the land of pounds of gold for phone service I cringe
whenever I hit a modem using the S0=1 with the computer down, so
I would like to do this for my own convience as well as in
consideration to my users.  I know I can do the AT COM2: H1
thing, but like the other idea as I don't have to put that in all
my various scripts that poll off com1.

Thanks in advance, Take care, Vikki.
From: kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Vacation program
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 13:13:44 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Public Access Usenet/UUCP, Clive IA USA.

roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes:

> kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle) writes:
>
> > Did you find any obvious differences between your set up and your
> > beta tester's that might contribute to that happening?
> 
> I didn't.  His setup is very ordinary.  It's interesting that it should
> show up somewhere else.

Well, for the record, I'm running Waffle 1.65 under Desqview on a
Gateway 386sx/16, using DOS 5.0 . I can't say I am doing anything truly
wierd that would cause problems.

--
Kevin Houle     kjhoule@iowegia.uucp
From: rick@vsystem.wimsey.bc.ca (Rick Vandenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: replies going to wrong address, vms list
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 21:08:09 PDT
Organization: Vandenberg Systems Research, Vancouver BC

bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick) writes:

> > 
> > "Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:".. well, you get the idea.
> 
> Sounds like an Aretha Franklin tune. All it needs is the '...spect.'
> :-)
> 

That's a good one :)


--
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From: peters@beltrix.guild.org (Peter Sleggs)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Problems with NEWSdir
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 22:42:31 EDT
Organization: Bellatrix Systems Corp., Mississauga, ONT Canada

dawson@willard.UUCP writes:

> mvdl@et.tudelft.nl writes:
> 
> I'd say you've got some problems.. but I wouldn't blame Waffle for them.
> I've never had a lost cluster nor any crosslinked clusters in any file or
> directory associated with Waffle.  But, I don't use Stacker.

I had all sorts of problems with waffle and Hyperdisk and batch 1.64a, I
dropped the cache as I needed 1.64a and it went away [ never had the
time to try it again ], with the 1.64 batch it was stable under desqview
for months...

I _assume_ the batching was the cause as thats what had changed, and the
corrupted files were news ontop of other files.

I'll have to try with 1.65, and see what happens.

--
Bellatrix Systems Corp. Mississauga, Ontario Canada
peters@beltrix.guild.org or beltrix!peters
From: system@micromed.com (Duane Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: QWK, Mark Mail Doors
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 21:42:42 PDT
Organization: Micro-Medic BBS - +1 408 279 5240 - Public Access

at595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Garrett Laska) writes:
> 
>     The QWK docs say that the numbers in the .ndx files are MSBIN or BasicRea
> format, and that I have to convert them to/from a Float format??? why would
> they be floating point numbers anyways, a Long int (4 odd million) would seem
> sufficient, but anyways, here is a routine I pulled out of the docs..
> 

Try using the following converter:

   /* converts 4 byte Microsoft MKS format to long integer */

   unsigned long mbf_to_int (m1, m2, m3, exp)
   unsigned int m1, m2, m3, exp;

   {
        return (((m1 + ((unsigned long) m2 << 8) + ((unsigned long) m3 <<
        16)) | 0x800000L) >> (24 - (exp - 0x80)));
   }

I got this out of a QWK definition file that I have. I don't know if it
will work but it's worth a shot. Let me know if you want the file and I
will mail it to you uuencoded.




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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: sig length in waffle
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 05:27:43 GMT

jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin) writes:

>> Keep in mind, also, that the '--' is in actuality a '-- ' and that

>I wasnt aware there was a space in there. Regardless, who ever listens to
>the purists? ;-)

Rule No. 6:  There is no Rule No. 6
From: Alan Millar <amillar@bolis.SF-Bay.Org>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Disabling autoanswer
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 22:47:00 PST
Organization: The Bolis Group, San Jose, CA

bob@1776.COM (Robert Coe) writes:

> otto@jybox.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) writes:
> > Works like a charm, but of course there is the possibility that Waffle may 
> > crash leaving DTR up (has happened a couple of times, though quite rare).
> 
> But neither AUTO-ATA nor any other user-controllable setting can prevent
> that, right?

Wrong.  That is exactly the situation that AUTO-ATA was designed for.  

You don't want the modem to pick up the line if Waffle crashes or isn't 
completely ready to answer, right?  The whole point of AUTO-ATA is that
the modem will only answer the phone when Waffle EXPLICITLY tells the
modem to pick up the phone.  The modem doesn't answer by itself using
its autoanswer mode.

So, with AUTO-ATA turned on and the modem's autoanswer turned off,
there is no way the call will be answered unless Waffle is in complete
control and tells the modem to pick up the line.  The line CAN'T be 
picked up if Waffle crashes, because there won't be a program to respond 
to the ring signal and tell the modem to answer.

- Alan

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From: bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: FernMail???
Date: 12 Sep 92 06:09:21 GMT
Organization: Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA

One of the Waffle sites I support has a feed user with a program 
called FernMail. Messages from this {unique} software manages to
generate mail that gets out of his system ok, but freezes the
Waffle site. 

The messages come with no c/r's, and so the whole message appears to
Waffle as one long header.

From: user@site.out.thereDate: Sat Jan 33, 1992 PDTSubject: Some crud...

The system reports a floating point exception error (!) and drops 
dead.
    thud

Has anyone else dealt with FernMail? What is it? How can it be killed?
Does it take garlic, silver bullets, or what?

--- 
Bob Kirkpatrick <bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us>
Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA