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From: jcarr@dbs.com (John Carroll)
Subject: Re: Scores Anyone?
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:15:55 GMT
Distribution: world,usa,alt,na
Organization: D&B Software, Inc.

The Braves won game 7, 3-2.  It was 2-0 Pirates going into the bottom of the
ninth.  Pendleton hit a double, Gant sacrifice flew him home.  Justice hit an
infield grounder, boggled by Lind and was on at first.  Bream walked to load
the bases and then Hunter got the second out.  Two away, bottom of the ninth,
bases loaded, Pittsburgh leads 2-1, Francisco Cabrerra comes to the plate to
pinch-hit.  He loops a base hit to left/center field.  Justice scores easily
from third and Bream, although veeeeeeery slow, beats the tag at home!!!!

BRAVES win the pennant second year in a row!!!

Bring on the Bluejays!

John

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From: jblixt@neon.cdc.com (Jon Blixt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Bonds "choke"?
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:31:15 GMT
Reply-To: jblixt@mips.COM (Jon Blixt)
Organization: People fed up with politicians, not politics

In article <1992Oct8.062405.16969@Princeton.EDU} niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent) writes:
}In article <48354@shamash.cdc.com} jblixt@mips.COM (Jon Blixt) writes:
}}In <1992Oct6.184644.22727@sni.ca} dave@snitor.sni.ca (Dave Till) writes:
}}}In article <48202@shamash.cdc.com} jblixt@mips.COM (jon blixt) writes:
}
}}}}First of all, I'm not saying Barry Bonds choked.
}
}}}}I do, however, have a fairly simple question.
}
}}}}Is there such a thing called choking and does it occur?
}
}}If competitor A consistantly defeats competitor B(
}}don't ask for a definition for consistant since that's my opinion), we
}}have to attribute it to something.  That something usually is will or
}}moral character, in other words, intangibles.  When these intangibles 
}
}I have a better idea.  How about "TALENT"????  Combined with a bit of luck?

In the above paragraph I said they had approximately equal "TALENT".
}
}And the fact that the world is cruel doesn't mean we have to help
}perpetuate that cruelty.
}
IF(and this is a big IF) there is such a thing a choking, people aren't
just perpetuating cruelty they are also perpetuationg the truth.

}Try -- for a change -- just assuming that your favorite team/player
}wasn't quite *good* enough, or that they got unlucky.  See if that
}changes your perspective.

I'm sorry, but I won't change my perspective.  Mainly, because in my
eyes, my favorite team/player ALMOST never chokes.  And if I suspect
that they have/did choke, I hope they won't continue to do so.
Thanks but no thanks for the advice.
}
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}Vote Clinton/Gore '92.   Four more weeks!!!   		"Bloody urine"

-Jon

Vote gore Clinton in '92.  Sorry, I couldn't help it. Just came to me.:)
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From: steph@cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson)
Subject: Re: jack morris, pitching to the score.
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 08:23:21 GMT

In <92281.194556RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu> RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu writes:

>second inning.  nothing apiece.  harold baines singles.  mark mcgwire
>homers.  terry steinbach homers.  willie wilson k's.  mike bordick
>k's.  lance blankenship k's.

>is that great clutch pitching or what! gets to the alcs and strikes out
>three in an inning! jack morris for mvp!

The odd thing is that Jack Morris' line score will look better than Steve
Avery (although they both basically had one bad inning.)  Steve did a
better job of pitching to the score, though :->.

Second inning aside, Jack pitched quite well.  But I don't think he should
have pitched the ninth.  He didn't look *that* sharp.
--
Dale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Baseball fanatic

  "It is considered good to look wise, especially when not 
   overburdened with information" -- J. Golden Kimball
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From: steph@cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson)
Subject: Re: Pitchers' Hitting And Talking
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 07:15:42 GMT

In <1992Oct9.164610.23781@panix.com> spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira) writes:

>First, I made up a list of the best hitting pitchers in the NL this
>year.  Ranked by OPS; Minimum 60 at-bats.


>Pitcher       At-Bats        OPS
[..]
>Glavine         77          .558
[....]
>Avery           76          .427
[.]
>Smoltz          75          .422

And Smoltz picked up a couple hits tonight in the Braves win.

OK, none of these pitchers would be likely to challenge for a DH job.  But
I love to see a pitcher help himself at the plate.
--
Dale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Baseball fanatic

  "It is considered good to look wise, especially when not 
   overburdened with information" -- J. Golden Kimball
From: jrmst8+@pitt.edu (Joseph R Mcdonald)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Pittsburg Fans
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:35:09 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <26285@oasys.dt.navy.mil> kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat) writes:
>Does anyone know what the average attendence per game was for the Pirates
>this year. If the Pitt fans are so great, this better be high.

Their attendance was equivelant (when you adjust for market size) to the Dodgers
and Angels drawing 5.0 million each, the Cubs and Sox drawing 3.5 million each,
the Mets and Yankees drawing 4.5 million each.  None of those teams have EVER
drawn that much.  More Pittsburghers per capita saw live baseball games the
last three years than any team in baseball.



Dean

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From: egj00@cd.amdahl.com (Edward G Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: RE: Freon Deion
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:35:29 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <8OCT199216194389@wild.ucis.vill.edu>,
mcclure@wild.ucis.vill.edu (MCCLURE HAROLD) writes:

>back coverage. He's one of the best in the game and certainly the best on 
>Glavine's roster. Why the Braves need him is another matter. His
>hitting skills
>are okay and only lately and he sees little time in the outfield,
>although he
>does run down everything in sight. In a close series, however, his
>pinch 

Is this true?  The final OPI stats have Deion tied for 14th in the AL.  
On the other hand, someone posted that his defensive
range factor is rather low. 

-Ed
From: kubey@sgi.com (Ken Kubey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Sanders vs McCarver
Date: 17 Oct 92 00:50:08 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA

I have to take McCarver's side on this one.
Sure, dump a bucket of water on him if you want, but to come back
*three* times to *throw* a bucket of water on a guy?  Too much.

Imagine for a second that it was Leslie Visser instead of McCarver.
Mr. Sanders would be accused of harrassment.

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From: anderson@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (anderson peter john)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: John Birch Society
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:20:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw0z5r.G9s
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

If I'm not mistaken, the three Padre John Birchers were Eric Show, Dave
Dravecky, and Mark Thurmond.  I'm absolutely positive about Show.

And don't forget that Bob Knepper was once named "Neanderthal of the Year"
by the Houston chapter of the National Organization of Women.


--Pete  (anderson@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu)
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From: aardvark@locus.com (Warren Usui)
Subject: Re: Entries for the 1992 Baseball Playoff Choke Awards
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 17:25:59 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.202009.29560@Princeton.EDU> richmond@spiff.Princeton.EDU (Stupendous Man) writes:
>
>  From Warren Usui (aardvark@snap.la.locus.com) comes a multipart 
>  definition.  Note that most players are exempted from choking:
>

Wait a minute!!  You left out my corollaries of choke!  They are:

	1.  Anyone can choke on defense (not limited to the best players).
            Bill Buckner was my example (which caused you to not take me
	    seriously).

	2.  There doesn't always have to be a clear cut choke.  I rate
	    4 degrees of chokiness.

		First Degree Choke -- Bonds strikes out against Glavine
		Second Degree Choke - Bonds strikes out against Liebrandt
		Third Degree Choke -- Bonds strikes out against Freeman
		Fourth Degree Choke - Bonds strikes out against Blauser

	or

		First Degree Choke -- Eckersley gives up a home run to Bonds
		Second Degree Choke - Eckersley gives up a home run to Slaught
		Third Degree Choke -- Eckersley gives up a home run to Lind
		Fourth Degre Choke -- Eck gives up a home run to Tim Wakefield

	    In order for these chokes to happen the rest of what was described
	    in the previous message still applies.  There was no third degree
	    choke when Lind hit his homer in game 1 of the NLCS because the
	    Braves still won.

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From: aardvark@locus.com (Warren Usui)
Subject: Re: Ugliest player (res.)
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 17:41:45 GMT

CRAAARB@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes:
>--
>"He throws a mean forkball, complemented with a spoonball and a knifeball,
>bringing new meaning to the phrase, 'setting the table'"- SI on Ruben Dario Per
>ez
 
Yes, but can he get it over the plate?


 


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From: atchison@violin.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison)
Subject: Re: In Defence of Fair-Weather Fans
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:12:42 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.084618.1@uwovax.uwo.ca> jpalmer@uwovax.uwo.ca (The Econoclast) writes:
>In Defence of Fair-Weather Fans
>by John Palmer
>
>There is absolutely nothing honourable about being a die-hard "______" fan,
>cheering for them through thick and thin, especially during seasons when the
>team is losing two-thirds of its games. I don't understand how this type of
>masochistic loyalty came to be elevated to a virtue for so many people.

And you never will understand.  And I *still* despise fair-weather fans. :)

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From: jeffh@pisces.sps.mot.com  (Jeff Heilner)
Subject: Re: YOU make the call! 
Organization: SPS
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:38:46 GMT

In article <Ahn-131092104902@branford-college-node.net.yale.edu>  
Ahn@pop.cis.yale.edu (Eugene R. Ahn) writes:
> I had a dream that I was thrown out at home after trying to score from
> third on a fly ball to the OF. I actually crossed the plate well before  
> the ball came to home, but apparently I had left third too early. On an  
> instant replay, the OF bobbled the ball. The ball hit the palm of his
> glove, bounced down. He reached with his hand and knocked the ball back
> up in the air. Three seconds later, the ball was in his glove without
> having hit the ground. The refs ruled that I had left third right after  
> the ball bounced off his glove but way before he had actually caught the  
> ball. Thus I had left 3rd too early and was out. 

> Were the refs right?


NO.
 
The rule is that you are required to stay on the base until the fly ball  
is TOUCHED (not necessarily caught) by a fielder.

Otherwise, what's to keep dexterous fielders from "bobbling" a fly ball  
all the way into the infield on every sac-fly situation.  

- Jeff

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From: rsparks@boi.hp.com (Rob Sparks)
Subject: Who's winning game #2 - NLCS
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:10:27 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
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From: doli@troi.cc.rochester.edu (David Oliver)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Some thoughts
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:40:20 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

In article <71392@hydra.gatech.EDU> tmiller@prism.gatech.EDU (Thomas Miller) writes:
>
>  It's really amazing how...
>
>*  some people on this group (and others not on the internet) hate the
>     Braves just because they won the NLCS, or the Jays just because
>     they won the ALCS              
>*  others are getting into nationality issues with the U.S. and Canada
>
>





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>
>  These are just ballgames.  We shouldn't drag hatred and bigotry into
>them.
>

"Hatred and bigotry"  Come on!!!  There's nothing wrong with trying to get a little international rivalry.  I, for one, never said, "We can't let _them_ win."  I, personally, have no basis to really favor either team, so I thought, that since a lot of my friends are from Canada and there are a lot of Canadian people reading this on the net, I might as well root for the Braves, being the US team.  I feel no more guilty about this then rooting for the US in the Olympics (of course, that is also probably tabo






o).  Lighten up nobody's trying to start a war.

-David Oliver (doli@troi.cc.rochester.edu)
SIGN KIRBY PUCKETT

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From: exby@pogo.Colorado.EDU (|J| Exby)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: eck chokes again!
Summary: choke
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:11:35 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder


Sure was nice seeing Eck put on the ol choke collar again!
pumpin the fist and growling at the Js bench after top
of the 8th, and then give up the LONG ball to tie the game...
serves him right.

too bad the mvp and Cy votes have been cast, this As jerk
doesn't quite deserve all the credit he's been getting.
Go Js!

::j
From: dcbeck@indyvax.iupui.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: john birch society
Date: 15 Oct 92 10:32:33 -0500

In article <92288.193756RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu>, <RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu> writes:
> no, i don't know what piece of baseball history eric show will always
> be remembered for.  please enlighten me.

Show gave up career hit number 4192 to Pete Rose

DAVE				"Thank God I'm outta there."--Iowa Cubs
				outfielder Scott Bryant when asked by an
				autograph seeker about playing in the
				Cincinnatti Reds organization.


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From: hasch@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Bruce M Hasch)
Subject: Re: Pirates!!!1
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University - HCF
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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:42:00 GMT

In article <4eqrNWe00WBK47o18o@andrew.cmu.edu>, sk4n+@andrew.cmu.edu (Scott Ryan Kirkpatrick) writes...
> 
>inning 2    ANY QUESTIONS?????????????
> 
>PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES
>!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!
>!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!
>!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!
>!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!
>!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!
>PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!P
>IRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PI
>RATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIR
>ATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRA
>TES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRAT
>ES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATE
>S!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!PIRATES!!!!!

You know, you should really try decaf.  Besides, you shouldn't anger the
woofing gods like this... 

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Bruce 'Anyone but Bill Ripken' Hasch   hasch@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu   Go O's in '93!
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From: bernstei@next3.corp.mot.com(Andrew Bernstein)
Subject: Harold Baines
Organization: MOTOROLA 
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:59:01 GMT



I must say that I was overjoyed to see Harold hit that homer..(although it  
didn't seem that he was...does that man ever smile?) he has always been my  
"idol"...I even find myself rooting for slugfests when the A's play the  
ChiSox so that Harold can have a good game, yet the Sox can still  
win.....I'm happy with one or the other however....

I was just wondering if anybody has seen an interview with the man or  
knows where his patience at the plate over the last couple of years has  
come from...I've notice that he walks quite a bit more than he did in his  
early years...is he striking out less as well?   If somebody has his 	 
lifetime stats could you post them or email me... thanks!

Andrew 

bernstei@next3.corp.mot.com
From: gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob Gajarsky)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Looking for computerized baseball sounds,for Mac?
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:07:57 GMT
Organization: Somewhere in Hoboken


Hi - i received a more complete version of the following letter from
 a baseball fan in australia.  if anyone can help him out, please do.

thanks - bob gaj
==============================================
From:  bjf%ausom.oz@sol.cc.deakin.oz.au
 
Perhaps someone on the net can help a fan from DownUnder?
 
I want to put together a set of baseball sounds such as trumpet 
charges, etc for use with a PA system I am writing, based on the Mac 
with HyperCard.
 
Does anyone on the net have a tape recording, preferred, or sound 
samples for Macintosh, of the above?
 
Format of digitized sounds not important, but <snd_> (Resource) or 
HyperCard preferred. Can also handle AIFF, SoundEdit, MacroMind or 
Quicktime but must be Macintosh.
 
I have a super sound management program called AudioShop from Opcode 
Systems of Palo Alto, CA 415-856-3333, which will extract just about 
anything from audio tape, audio CD or microphone sound. Your cost - 
about $100 estimated.
 
For the first time we are getting the LCS games here on delayed replay 
via satellite - I record 6 hours play from midnight to 6 am and watch 
it next day. What a great pair of series. Next, World Series. WOW!!
 
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me.
==================================
From: doctor8@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Jason Abner Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Bonds in Game 4:  The Last Straw
Date: 11 Oct 92 16:24:00 GMT
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	Judging from some of the reactions I've seen posted here during the
NLCS, at least one person is going to post today and say that Barry Bonds'
two walks in last night's Braves victory proved without a doubt that he 
hasn't been choking in this series.  I'd just like to remind everyone that
Smoltz was obviously pitching around him in those at-bats, and those walks
do not represent a "good batting eye" or "getting on base for the team".
	And as for his at-bat against Stanton in the seventh inning:  This
proves WITHOUT A DOUBT that ol' Barry is a Playoff Choker (TM).  This at-bat
was his FINAL opportunity in the NLCS to prove that he doesn't choke in
the post-season, and he once again struck out on some pitches that even
Devon White or Oscar Azocar wouldn't have swung at.  
	In other words:  Never mind the walks, people.  That whiff broke
the back of the Bucs, and if anyone refuses to admit that Bobby's son is a
Playoff Choker (TM), just look at the game 4 final.
	Braves 6;	Pirates 4
	Smoltz: 2 RBI, stolen base!
	Barry: ---------------- [some walks]

	Jason Miller

"I stress that the Cone trade doesn't mean we're rebuilding.  We're merely
reshaping a few aspects of the team for next season. ... We now have a very
talented young infielder in Jeff Kent."
				-	Al Harazin, c. 9/1/92
From: sue@gopher.ccbr.umn.edu (Sue Meger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: batting tips
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:21:11 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis

I am posting the following for a friend:

I'm learning how to bat and have been practicing at a Grand Slam.
Please e-mail (to the above address) or post any batting tips you
want to share.

Thanks, Joe

(e-mail to sue@gopher.ccbr.umn.edu)
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From: MLINDROOS@finabo.abo.fi (Marcus Lindroos INF)
Subject: Re: 15 Years of the Blue Jays
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 12:15:30 GMT
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In <1992Oct15.131527.4678@morgan.ucs.mun.ca> tconnors@morgan.ucs.mun.ca writes:

> In article <Bw5H46.L50@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> desouzmj@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Michael de Souza) writes:
> >In article <1992Oct12.181311.8503@sbcs.sunysb.edu>, schablan@csws2.ic.sunysb.edu (Sanjiv Chablaney) writes:
> >> 	America's Greatest Game will officially be a Canadian Past Time.
> >> 
> >
> >How many Canadiens play for the Jays, and their Canadien past time?
> >
> 
> I'm not sure, but I think the ratio is similar to the number of
> Americans playing for the Pittsburgh Penguins.

Ary you sure about that? The Pens' roster was predominantly American when they
won their first Stanley Cup in 1991, although their superstar (Mario Lemieux) 
is French-Canadian. I know the Penguins have more Canadian-born players
this time, but I would still be VERY surprised if the Jays, percentage-wise,
have as many Canadians as the Pens have Americans. Can someone shed some light
on this? 

  
> tconnors@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
>     Tim Connors
>  

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