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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: *BAD* music group reorg will not be honored 
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 02:15:41 GMT
Organization: None for me, thanks . . . I'm driving.

smithj@sr.hp.com (Jim Smith) writes:

> Gee, then I wonder how the creation of rec.music.banjo slipped by the
> net-dogooder talons. 

"rec.music.banjo"?  No such monkey here, Charlie.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
From: smithw@hamblin.math.byu.edu (Dr. William V. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Joe Walsh, Glenn Frey, etc.
Date: 7 Nov 92 22:21:47
Organization: Brigham Young University-Math. Dept
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sofya.math.byu.edu

Sorry if this is the wrong group, but I was just wondering
what the former members of the "Eagles" are doing now? If
you have info, would you mind sharing it with me?  Thanks-
-Bill
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Xref: sparky rec.music.makers:10923 alt.emusic:376 rec.music.synth:18347 rec.music.marketplace:2223
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,alt.emusic,rec.music.synth,rec.music.marketplace
From: eoates@us.oracle.com
Subject: Re: TASCAM MS-16 FOR SALE
Organization: Oracle Corporation, USA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:48:02 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Nov12.002034.867@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com>, g_house@goes11.enet.dec.com (Greg House) writes:
> 
> In article <dave.24@scrc.umanitoba.ca>, dave@scrc.umanitoba.ca (Dave McCrea) 
> writes:
> 
> |>>For Sale:
> |>>TASCAM MS-16 1 inch 16 track machine $5800.
> |>>includes:
> |>>       - TASCAM DBX
> |>>       - Autolocator with roll around cart
> |>>       - original packaging material
> |>>       - custom desk to house MS-16, a board, and effects racks
> |>
> |>> stuff deleted
> |>
> |>Isn't this getting close to the price of 2 new Alesis ADATS with better S/N 
> |>and cheaper tape costs? How long will it be before good taperecorders such 
> |>as the MS-16 are sold for their scrap metal value?
> |>
> |>Just curious.
> |>
> 
> I wouldn't exactly say it's that close.  An ADAT is still going for $4k (ok,
> $3999) and the BRC controller (which would give you the functionality of the
> Autolocator in this ad) goes for $2k, so that's $10k for equivalent ADAT 
> functionality and it doesn't include the rollaround cart or the custom
> desk.
> 
> Besides, you're comparing apples to oranges, some people prefer the sound 
> of analog recorders.
> 
> Greg

Just an additional comment: I have and use the ms16 with a tascam 520 console. 
With the dbx on the tape, you get 107db s/n if everythingis adjusted and
calibrated correctly, vs. about 90 - 95 for adat.  In addition, analog tapes
allow for splicing, so if you know what you are doing, you can rearrange a song
(gee, I decided I want the chorus to lead into the song and I don't want to
rerecord everything).  A good splicer can do wonders.  Nearly every recording
of any significance used the scissor method to put together the final songs. 
Check out the Beatles Recording Sessions book, or read about the production of
Good Vibrations by Brian Wilson.  

In order to duplicate that functionality (actually, improve on it), in addition
to adat, you need a disk based sound editor: add another 20K or so for the Mac,
disks, and software.  So, if you will do ANY after the fact rearranging of the
order of passages within a song on the 16 track master, analog recorders are a
must if price is a consideration.
-- 
Ed Oates (my opinions, not Oracle's)
 
*** Holy ozone, Batman, what a sunburn! ***
From: bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Farrington (?) guitar book
Date: 9 Nov 1992 11:40:49 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Last thursday on NPR's all things considered had a segment on a
a custom guitar maker (Farrington?) who work has been documented
in a large format slick graphic type book. Anyone have any info
as to publisher and price?????
-- 
Ted....
Xref: sparky rec.music.makers:10829 rec.music.synth:18121 news.groups:20884
From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth,news.groups
Subject: Re: *BAD* music group reorg will not be honored
Date: 9 Nov 1992 22:43:40 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.makers
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <1992Nov9.203151.3252@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov writes:
>Anything that I can find of substance. My central point still stands.
>R.m.s readers do not want their name changed. 

They had their chance to stop it. They didn't. They lose.

...but they don't lose much, if folks just go ahead and make the trivial
changes needed to keep the gateways running.

>Not entirely correct. The point has been made that the CFV was not entirely
>clear. 

Horse pucky. They made the process as open as every group creation and reorg
done in the past two years, at least; there is no substantial difference
between the way this reorg was done and the way the rec.ham-radio ->
rec.radio.amateur.* reorg was done, and that one started about this time in
1990.

>>and you (David) have been jumping from argument to
>>argument in a desperate attempt to make your point come trough. 
>Damn straight. 

The admission of someone who keeps getting shot out of the saddle, but keeps
getting back up and trying again. I bet your doctor is getting tired of
patching all those bullet holes.

>>   a) Issue a formal CFD on the appropriate groups for renaming 
>>      r.m.m.s back to r.m.s.
>Done.

OK...if this one is accepted as being in accordance with the Guidelines, then
I'll campaign against it.

>>   b) Shut up and accept the vote 
>Never. My site will not rmgroup r.m.s.

Well, then, you will be responsible for causing that which you so loudly
decry: the splintering of the group.

>True. SYNTH-L goes to a lot of places. That would truly be a shame that a
>few control freaks have ruined it for the rest of that list. 

You and Joe, true. I am not a control freak; I merely wish to see working
processes kept intact.

[about the maintainer of SYNTH-L, who refuses to fix his gateway]
>Not true. He didn't do anything to break it. 

Sure he did: he's refusing to maintain it to keep up with changes in the
network it's gatewaying from.
-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
     We survived Jimmy Carter; we'll (probably) survive Bill Clinton.
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,alt.emusic,rec.music.synth,rec.music.marketplace
From: dave@scrc.umanitoba.ca (Dave McCrea)
Subject: Re: TASCAM MS-16 FOR SALE
Keywords: tascam ms-16, multitrack, recorder
Organization: Physiology Department, University of Manitoba
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:33:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.174048.28265@kodak.kodak.com> axman@acadia.Kodak.COM (Mike Axman) writes:

>For Sale:
>TASCAM MS-16 1 inch 16 track machine $5800.
>includes:
>       - TASCAM DBX
>       - Autolocator with roll around cart
>       - original packaging material
>       - custom desk to house MS-16, a board, and effects racks

> stuff deleted

Isn't this getting close to the price of 2 new Alesis ADATS with better S/N 
and cheaper tape costs? How long will it be before good taperecorders such 
as the MS-16 are sold for their scrap metal value?

Just curious.

|  dave@scrc.umanitoba.ca         Dept. Physiology
|  Vox: 204-788-6770              University of Manitoba 
|  Fax:204-786-0932               Winnipeg, MB.  R3E 0W3, Canada
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth,news.groups,news.admin
From: chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg)
Subject: Re: *BAD* music group reorg will not be honored
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:18:05 GMT
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL

According to dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov:
>chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg) writes:
>>Those who don't [keep well informed, including reading the guidelines],
>>obviously care little enough that it's reasonable to ignore their mewlings
>>about having missed the discussion.  Seriously.
>
>Ok, Mr. Logic. PROVE that assertion. I challenge you.

Okay.  Those who care, will find out what they want to know.  Those
who don't care, won't.  Therefore, those who care _will_ know how to
involve themselved in the process.

Perhaps this line of reasoning does not seem compelling to you.  But
it is quite compelling to me, and I believe it completely.

>It's not necessarily ignorance born out of hypocrisy. Some people are so
>overwhelmed by 2500 newsgroups (and growing) that they'll be on this net
>for months before realizing any such thing. 

Oh, come now.  You mean that if you were a new user, the newsgroup
names "news.announce.newusers" and "news.newusers.questions" wouldn't
jump out at you?

>And anyone who asserts that "the ignorant deserve what they get" is 
>ignorant AND inconsiderate of the unwillingly ignorant.

Yet I stand by that position, despite your opinion that it shows me
to be ignorant and inconsiderate.

>That's an inconsideration I'm not willing to tolerate. 

"Tolerate" is a strong word, Dave.  It implies that you have means to
eliminate the "inconsideration" from your world.  So do you intend to
leave Usenet, or to take over?  There's not much else you can do.
-- 
Chip Salzenberg at Teltronics/TCT  <chip@tct.com>, <73717.366@compuserve.com>
   "I am truly as big a genius as all other Rush fans." -- Bruce Bufalini
From: etsang@skat.usc.edu (Eric Tsang)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Question:Where to mail order cheap DAT
Date: 12 Nov 1992 09:54:12 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu

Hi, Does anybody know any mail order for cheap DAT machines ?
I am looking for a non-PRO and non-portable one.
Any suggested model ?

Please reply to my email address.
Thanx in advance

etsang@skat.usc.edu
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From: rsk@gynko.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth,news.groups,news.admin
Subject: Re: *BAD* music group reorg will not be honored
Date: 6 Nov 92 00:06:50 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.makers
Organization: GSP Whitewater Slalom Racing Team

In article <1992Nov5.203852.29784@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov writes:
>There now appears to be a consensus of evidence that implies that the
>discussions WEREN'T posted to rec.music.synth.

I'm not sure where this "consensus of evidence" comes from, but I'd
like to introduce the facts by reproducing the relevant headers
from the three calls-for-discussion.   They're enclosed below.

Note that the first one was not crossposted to rec.music.synth,
because the proposals outlined *at that time* did not affect it.
Note that the next two *were* crossposted to rec.music.synth,
because the proposals outlined did affect it.

---Rsk

==========
CFD #1 headers
==========
	From: rsk@aspen.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec)
	Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.music.misc,rec.music.makers,alt.guitar,alt.guitar.bass,alt.guitar.tab
	Subject: RFD: several instrument-specific rec.music groups
	Message-ID: <Bt7pr0.3G7@uunet.uu.net>
	Date: 19 Aug 92 03:59:17 GMT
	Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
	Followup-To: news.groups
	Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net

==========
CFD #2 headers
==========
	From: rsk@gynko.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec)
	Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth,alt.guitar,alt.guitar.bass,alt.guitar.tab
	Subject: RFD: rec.music.makers.* groups
	Message-ID: <BtpH40.2Mx@uunet.uu.net>
	Date: 28 Aug 92 18:09:29 GMT
	Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
	Followup-To: news.groups
	Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net

==========
CFD #3 headers
==========
	From: rsk@aspen.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec)
	Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth,alt.guitar,alt.guitar.bass,alt.guitar.tab
	Subject: 3rd RFD: rec.music.makers.* groups
	Message-ID: <BuBy7w.C0C@uunet.uu.net>
	Date: 9 Sep 92 21:26:19 GMT
	Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
	Followup-To: news.groups
	Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: jmfuchs@unix.amherst.edu (JESSE MICHAEL FUCHS)
Subject: Re: Creating Song Lyrics
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 06:58:59 GMT

	Not THE "Harris n' Dave?"

	The ones that performed with rock superstar John "Yngwie" Rudolph???

	Wow!

	Hi Harris. Just figured I'd say howdy.

						-fuchs
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: plyall@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Pete Lyall)
Subject: Hammond organs (was: Re: Leslie speaker questions)
Organization: U S WEST Information Technologies
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:48:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.021732.17019@wisper.com> dowd@wisper.com (Kevin Dowd) writes:
>mjs@sequent.com (Mike Spitzer) writes:
>: I recently purchased an old Hammond M-3 organ with a Leslie speaker
>: (labeled "Leslie type 147 power amplifier").  

Perfect timing for my question:

I'm a long time guitar player, but I have ALWAYS been in love with the
Hammond organ sound. I vowed that one day when I had a place to put
one, that I'd have one of my own. 

My DREAM would be a B3/Leslie combination, and I recently saw one
float by at $1000 in the paper. Still a touch rich for my blood.

I recently also saw an M-3 and an M-100, both with benches and
leslie's for reasonable prices. 

The question is: which one is more B3-like? Do they both have 
drawbars, and that lovely Hammond sound (including the precussive
tones)? Is either more favored or more reliable than the other?
Lastly, will both fit through a conventional doorway?

I did read the Hammond/B-3 issue of keyboard last year, but alas, I
threw it away when I moved as part of the household weight reduction
program.

Any tips/hints gratefully accepted!

Pete Lyall


-- 
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: chrisk@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Chris Kennison)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:20:11 GMT
Subject: Re: Farrington (?) guitar book
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers

In rec.music.makers, bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel) writes:

> 
> Last thursday on NPR's all things considered had a segment on a
> a custom guitar maker (Farrington?) who work has been documented
> in a large format slick graphic type book. Anyone have any info
> as to publisher and price?????
> -- 
> Ted....

saw a small article on it in the recent GP - read it.
From: tac@icf.hrb.com (Timothy A. Cowfer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: The band "Boston"
Date: 6 Nov 92 00:21:20 EST
Organization: HRB Systems, Inc.

If any of ou are familiar with the band "Boston", could you tell 
me if they ever had a guitar player named "Al Miller" ?   My reason
for asking, is that he lives in my area, and I've heard that he was 
in "Boston",  and I just wanted to know if it was fact of fiction.


Tim
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: jimbo@socrates.umd.edu (Jim Bogard)
Subject: Cheapo mikes for drum use... how bout this?
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:40:43 GMT

Enter the poor starving college band.  Needless to say, cash is at
a premium.  I ask:

Has anybody tried using those $2 microphone elements from Rat Shack
(or the like) for drum miking?

I know, I know, but we're talking _cheap_ here.  I just need something
that'll make a noise.  Err... well, maybe a little better than that, but
you know what I mean.  Drunk greeks don't hear too well. :-)

Alternate suggestions read with interest.  Thanks! 

J-.

-- 
----
Jim Bogard  (jimbo@socrates.umd.edu)
                                            "Implement now, tweak later."
Tech at large
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth,news.groups,news.admin
From: chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg)
Subject: Re: *BAD* music group reorg will not be honored
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 23:55:04 GMT
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL

According to dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov:
>Just what percentage of people on the net make an effort to keep so well
>informed that they dig through the guidelines to find this out?

Those who don't, obviously care little enough that it's reasonable to
ignore their mewlings about having missed the discussion.  Seriously.

>You are showing your lack of concern for net.people here.

I am showing a lack of respect for hypocrisy.  Hypothetical
net.person: "No, I won't spend my valuable time reading
news.announce.newgroups -- but if you rename my newsgroup I'll ...
I'll ... I'll hold my breath until I turn blue!"  Yeah, right.
-- 
Chip Salzenberg at Teltronics/TCT  <chip@tct.com>, <73717.366@compuserve.com>
   "I am truly as big a genius as all other Rush fans." -- Bruce Bufalini
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,alt.emusic,rec.music.synth,rec.music.marketplace
From: slug@engin.umich.edu (Scott Vanornum)
Subject: WANTED: Yamaha TG-33 Sound Module
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 09:09:19 EST
Organization: University of Michigan, Ann Arbor


I am searching for the Yamaha TG-33 Sound Module. It was made for a short 
period of time a year or two ago and then disappeared from the market (it
seems...)

Any info on new/used TG33's are appreciated.

Thanks, and please E-Mail to address below.


           -=sVo=-
Scott_VanOrnum@um.cc.umich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth,news.groups
From: chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg)
Subject: Re: Dave Hayes will not quit
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:54:27 GMT
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL
Followup-To: news.groups

Just so everyone knows what they're getting into:

According to dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov:
>R.m.s readers do not want their name changed. 

As long as Dave incorrectly believes that he speaks for the People, he
will not be persuaded.
-- 
Chip Salzenberg at Teltronics/TCT  <chip@tct.com>, <73717.366@compuserve.com>
                 just another elitist Usenet administrator
From: ps2o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Paul John Sollimo)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: *BAD* argument
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:57:07 GMT
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA



You know, I subscribed to this bboard to learn something about music. 
When I was working on a MIDI guitar system for my senior degree project
last year, I was able to get a lot of helpful and useful information
from people who knew a lot more than I did.  

This bboard does not seem to be focused on learning anymore.  It seems
to be focused on arguing about what to call itself and whether or not to
subdivide the board into more specific area of interest.  Personally, as
a guitarist and musician I am interested in what other musicians are
doing regardless of their chosen means of expression.

I've read Chip Salzenberg's arguments and I have to say I disagree.  I
am not very familiar with how the networks work.  That doesn't mean I
don't have an interest.  Quite frankly, if I wanted to know something
about the policies of reorganizing a bboard, I wouldn't even know where
to start looking for information.  It's disappointing to hear that
people who evidently know more consider themselves superior instead of
consider themselves as a resource for those who could learn from them.

The bottom line is, the focus of this bboard is no longer on teaching;
therefore, it is no longer useful to me.  As a result I've decided not
to subscribe to it anymore.  I don't know if I'm the only one that feels
this way, but you have to ask yourself  "Is the argument of
reorganization who knows more about networks really more important than
learning about music?"

I don't think so . . . bye.

Paul J. Sollimo
From: agr00@ccc.amdahl.com (Anthony G Rose)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: PC and MIDI Keyboard (ROLAND) to trade for Laptop
Date: 13 Nov 92 04:58:45 GMT
Reply-To: agr00@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (TONY ROSE)
Distribution: ba
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA


I need a laptop computer.  Preferrably a 386 that is not huge.
I have the following items that I am willing to work out a trade of some
kind if anyone is interested.  This a a good MIDI setup, with a Peavey
amp, and ROLAND D-5 Keyboard, and a 286 IBM comp. system.  Please let me
know if anyone is interested in this sort of an offer.

ROLAND D-5 MULTI-TIMBRAL KEYBOARD
-Great MIDI Instrument!

PEAVEY KB 60 KEYBOARD AMP
-50W High/Low Gain
-2 Channel Input
-Equalization
-And More!
-Used rarely and in excellent condition

IBM PC Compatible with:   42M Hard Disk Drive
                          80286 12MHz upross
                          3.5 1.44M HD Disk Drive
                          5.25 1.2M HD Disk Drive
                          VGA Monitor
                          1MB RAM
                          101 Key Keyboard
                          2400 External Modem
                          Panasonic Dot Matrix Printer
                          MPU-401 Roland MIDI Card
                          Mouse Systems Mouse
                          Parallel & Serial Card
                          Software & More!
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From: jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (J Lee Jaap)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth,news.groups,news.admin
Subject: Re: *BAD* music group reorg will not be honored
Followup-To: news.groups,rec.music.makers
Date: 6 Nov 1992 15:42:25 GMT
Organization: AS&M Inc
Reply-To: J Lee Jaap <J.L.Jaap@larc.nasa.gov>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cmb00.larc.nasa.gov
In-reply-to: system@cyberden.uucp's message of Thu, 05 Nov 92 02:31:46 PST

In article <NRHRTB1w165w@cyberden.uucp> system@cyberden.uucp writes:

   Perhaps this already has been settled... I don't know. I didn't realize
   this was happening until tonight as I'm not interested in subjects that
   don't have anything to do with synths in a r.m.s. group until I say that
   damn Subject taking up 45 msgs in a row of BAD NEWSGROUP...etc...

This has been settled, IMO.  One claim by Dave H that the RFDs and CFVs
weren't posted to r.m.s has been proven false (in the case of the RFDs;
I haven't seen the CFVs reposted).  The rest is unsubstantiated garbage.

As has been previously posted, readers of the net ignore RFDs and CFVs
crossposted to their groups (as these (apparently) properly were) at
their own peril.  Ignorance of the procedures is no excuse.
--
J Lee Jaap <J.L.Jaap@LaRC.NASA.Gov> +1 804/864-2148
    employed by, not speaking for, AS&M Inc, at
         NASA LaRC, Hampton VA 23681-0001
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: neale@cc1.unt.edu (Eriq Oliver Neale, ACS)
Subject: ASIA Touring?
Organization: Computing Center, UNT
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:43:15 GMT

I thought I saw a week or so ago a post about ASIA touring in Europe. Can 
anyone confirm/deny this? Does anyone know if they plan on touring in the US 
for this album? I've been a fan for years, but I've never been lucky enough 
to learn of tour dates far enough in advance to catch a show. Any and all 
information is greatly appreciated!

-Q

 Eriq O. Neale                              BITNET : LIPS@UNTVAX
 Lab/Network Manager                      Internet : neale@unt.edu
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