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From: ravalent@mothra.syr.EDU (Bob Valentine)
Subject: Re: Mounting tires--ride control process
Keywords: scam?
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 20:00:01 EST

In article <1dnn6sINNbh9@cairo.crhc.uiuc.edu> peercy@crhc.uiuc.edu (Mike Peercy) writes:
>ravalent@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Bob Valentine) writes:
>
>| peercy@crhc.uiuc.edu (Mike Peercy) writes:
>| >I just ordered some tires from Tire Rack.  One of the places
>| >I'm thinking of having mount them recommends something called
>| >a "ride control process", especially for alloy wheels, for
>| >$6.50/tire.
>
>| Sounds like regular spin balancing to me.  BTW, if they
>| ask you if you want the weigths on the inside of the rim,
>| say no.  THis type of balance yields a less than perfect
>| (if there is such a thing) balance.
>
>It wasn't regular spin balancing.  This place was going to charge
>$16 (double the cost they charge if you buy tires there) to mount
>and balance each tire, then tack on $6.50 apiece for "ride control
>process".

   Ok, so what then is "ride control process"?

>By weights on the inside of the rim, I assume you mean hidden
>weights.
>
>The place I did have mount these tires (at $11 apiece), only put
>weights on the inside edge of the rim.  (Nothing on the outside,
>nothing hidden.)  The balancer was set up to measure only one side
>(dashes appeared in the outside edge display).  I asked about this,
>and the guy said that the balancer accounts for both sides in
>figuring where the weight should go on the inside.
>
>Did I get a less than perfect balance?  (BTW, the tires required
>very little weight.)

   Technically, you don't get a PERFECT balance, but I personally 
have found that if a wheel takes a lot of weight, with the machine 
set to "inside balance", it will not feel right.  So I guess that
you did get a perfect balance, if there is such a thing.  
   I've mounted and balanced many a tire.  The only ones (2) that 
came back were Perelli (sp?) P600's, 13", and the customer INSISTED 
on inside balance.  Took 3 oz. of weight.  He came back after a 
week bitching-and-moaning.  I re-balanced the tire "normal", and 
he came back to say thanks. 

  Cavat Balancer.

>Mike Peercy
>peercy@crhc.uiuc.edu

-->Bob
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Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
From: eliot@chutney.rtp.dg.com (Topher Eliot)
Subject: Lunk, lunk, lunk -- wheel bearings?
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 16:13:40 GMT
Reply-To: eliot@dg-rtp.dg.com
Organization: Data General Corporation, Research Triangle Park, NC

My 80 Civic with 100K miles has started making a little lunk, lunk, lunk
sound when turn I left through an intersection (i.e. at greater than driveway
speed).  As I recall this is a sign of wheel bearings starting to go.  True?

If so, do I need to worry about it?  Is there any reason not to just let it
go until it becomes really obvious?  Will my wheel come off and leave me
dramatically stuck in the middle of an intersection (not to mention having
an interesting effect on the underside of my car :-)

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From: greg@cherokee.b23b.ingr.com (Greg Moritz)
Subject: Re: ECC-IV codes?
Reply-To: greg@cherokee.b23b.ingr.com (Greg Moritz)
Organization: Dazix, An Intergraph Company
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 14:03:09 GMT

dilmore@cray.com (Robert J. Dilmore) writes:
> I have been working on a freinds 87 turbo coupe for the last few days
> the car has 100+ miles on it and he has done nothing ...
> ...  an air cleaner with a dead mouse in it, ...

That's your problem!  Replace the dead mouse with a *live* mouse and
your driveablility problems will be solved.

Note:  I *always* replace *my* mouse at 25,000 miles or two years,
       - whichever comes first.
From: peercy@crhc.uiuc.edu (Mike Peercy)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
Subject: Re: Mounting tires--ride control process
Date: 10 Nov 1992 01:09:16 -0600
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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Keywords: scam?

ravalent@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Bob Valentine) writes:

| peercy@crhc.uiuc.edu (Mike Peercy) writes:
| >I just ordered some tires from Tire Rack.  One of the places
| >I'm thinking of having mount them recommends something called
| >a "ride control process", especially for alloy wheels, for
| >$6.50/tire.

| Sounds like regular spin balancing to me.  BTW, if they
| ask you if you want the weigths on the inside of the rim,
| say no.  THis type of balance yields a less than perfect
| (if there is such a thing) balance.

It wasn't regular spin balancing.  This place was going to charge
$16 (double the cost they charge if you buy tires there) to mount
and balance each tire, then tack on $6.50 apiece for "ride control
process".

By weights on the inside of the rim, I assume you mean hidden
weights.

The place I did have mount these tires (at $11 apiece), only put
weights on the inside edge of the rim.  (Nothing on the outside,
nothing hidden.)  The balancer was set up to measure only one side
(dashes appeared in the outside edge display).  I asked about this,
and the guy said that the balancer accounts for both sides in
figuring where the weight should go on the inside.

Did I get a less than perfect balance?  (BTW, the tires required
very little weight.)

Mike Peercy
peercy@crhc.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
From: dhepner@cup.hp.com (Dan Hepner)
Subject: Re: '83 Volvo diesel. HEEEEELLLLLLLPPPPPP.....
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 00:57:30 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1scd1 PL4

From: ehawrysh@bnr.ca (Evan Hawrysh)

>If it was an unusally cold night (unusual in terms of the season), perhaps
>it is your fuel. Most service stations use two grades of diesel, winter and
>summer, and switch when the appropriate weather approaches. If you had summer
>diesel, it is quite conceivable that it gelled up, preventing you from starting
>it. Try some methyl hydrate (fuel-line anti-freeze) and try starting it on
>a warmer day. Whups! I see you're in TX. Forget everything I just said.
>
>BTW, this would be a problem around -15C (about 0F).
>
>Evan

You can't commonly get methyl hydrate in the US.  But a story ...

For no particular reason at all I was cruising north toward Prince George, 
BC, one mid January in my Datsun diesel pickup.  Heading north toward Prince
George (center of BC), one travels from moderate to cold winter climate.
The temp lowered to about -10F, and my pickup started sputtering, a bit,
and then worse, and it finally quit about 5 miles from Prince George.  
It did start right back up, though.  Thinking that surely these Canadians 
would have a proper fuel additive to address whatever problem I was
having, I asked the service station which sold diesel.  They sold me
a $5 small (200ml) can of something, which I poured about 1/3 into the tank,
and headed on north.  I had no problems for about 200 miles (the
distance towns are apart in this country), and stopped for the night 
at a small town.  The next morning, thinking that if I had to use this 
kind of stuff, maybe I could at least find something cheaper, I went into 
the grocery store.  There they were, about 500ml bottles of methyl hydrate 
for $1.69.  I bought two, and headed on north. 10 miles, and sputter. 
I poured in the rest of the $5 can, and headed off again.  10 more 
miles, sputter.  So I poured in a bit of the methyl hydrate.  Not a 
single sputter in over 1500 more miles in such a climate (and Alberta 
was colder then BC).  Good stuff.

Canada, is a great place in the winter.  I drove the entire length
of a major freeway between Edmonton and Calgary without seeing a
single license plate from other than Alberta.  Talk about no
tourists.

We do have alcohol based fuel additives in the US, and I suspect they're
chemically similar to methyl hydrate.

Dan Hepner
From: sheriffp@Software.Mitel.COM (Peter Sheriff)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
Subject: Re: Does anyone change PS fluid?
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:20:19 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.


    I did this once. I wouldn't remove a hose though. You may end up with
a leak and you still wouldn't get all of the fluid out. I just siphoned
out all of the fluid I could get and replaced it with new. I then ran the
car for a few miles and repeated the process. The fluid was pretty clean
after that so I left it.

                                 Pete
Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
From: djr48312@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (X X)
Subject: 89 Mustang 5.0 GT manual wanted
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:57:47 GMT

If anyone has a Chilton's or any other manual for a 5.0 ('89) laying
around I would like it.  Please rply with a reasonable deal.
From: carlos@atherton.com (Carlos Chang)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
Subject: K&N filter fluids
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:20:56 GMT
Organization: Atherton Technology, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

I'm using K&N filters.  Are there any substitutes to the solvents
they sell or do I have to buy their stuff?


	Carlos
	carlos@atherton.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
From: marcus@vestek.com (Mark Stephen)
Subject: 1981 Honda Accord Questions
Organization: Vestek Systems, San Francisco
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 23:49:52 GMT

     First of all I was wondering if anyone out there has a factory
service manula in good cond that they'd like to sell

     Secondly, a question for people in San Fran and abouts, I would like
to know a good place to buy new parts for my Accord cheaper than the dealer.
I have had bad luck with 'Grand AUto'. 

     Thanks, Marcus
From: vbreault@rinhp750.gmr.com (Val Breault)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
Subject: Re: Coasting with auto tranny's...
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:58:22 GMT
	<1992Nov5.010310.1804@osf.org>
Distribution: usa
Organization: General Motors Research Labs
In-reply-to: kenny@osf.org's message of 5 Nov 92 01:03:10 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.010310.1804@osf.org> kenny@osf.org (Kenneth Crudup) writes:
   In article <VBREAULT.92Nov4100112@rinhp750.gmr.com>
   vbreault@rinhp750.gmr.com (Val Breault) writes:

   >This is similar to some folks practice of downshifting a standard 
   >transmission to save brakes.  Clutches are a bit more difficult and
   >expensive to replace as well.

   Yeah, but when I do it, it's for *control*; I wanna be able to pull out in
   a hurry if I have to. Certain situations dictate this.

	   -Kenny
Yeah, I can appreciate that Kenny.  I guess I wasn't quite specific
enough.  The folks I had in mind were the ones that downshift when
approaching a stop sign or a line of backed up traffic.  I agree that 
there are times when you'd want to preselect a lower gear.  I don't
believe that they occur very often under normal commuting.

-val-



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From: pwu@ai.mit.edu (Peng Wu)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
Subject: Re: What is current wisdom on rotating tires (tyres)?
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:04:20
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
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In-reply-to: johnl@SDFSERV.hac.com's message of 5 Nov 92 02:57:39 GMT

I think newer radial tires should be rotated diagnally but older ones should
keep their rotation direction.  I do not know since when radial tires should
be rotated diagnally.  Car owner's manual should be correct.  When you buy new
tires, the shop should tell you how to rotate them.  For older tires, I was
told to call the tire manufacture to find out how to rotate them.
From: roger@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Roger Petersen)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Flashing Fog Light humor
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:48:04 GMT
Organization: MID, Home of the Happy Dinosaurs


This one made me laugh...

I saw a car last night with the fog lights wired to the turn signals!

When the driver signalled to turn left, the fog lights came on
and flashed out of sync with the turn signals.

Innovative!
I pictured the driver bragging proudly, "Yep, I wired 'em myself!"
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: mshar@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Mshar)
Subject: Re: cold mornings stalls
Keywords: sentra 85
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:38:54 GMT

> phalke@pepper.rutgers.edu (V. Phalke) writes:

>Here I go again with my regular once-in-six-months posting. Any help
>would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Here is the problem :
>
>        When its cold or I start after couple of days, the car starts
>        up fine (high RPM etc.). But sometimes  when  I press the gas
>        immediately, instead of the engine revving(sp?) up, it just
>        shuts off !! After that it runs at a very low RPM.

Assuming that your car is carbureted, I would say that the choke needs
adjustment. Either the choke is heating up and opening too fast, or the
vacuum break adjustment is off and it is pulling the choke too far open
on startup. Either problem will cause the stalling you are talking about.

What kind of car is this?? If I knew, it would help me give a better
answer.

Mike

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From: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Are there any Luxary AWD?
Date: 12 Nov 1992 06:49:03 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
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In a previous article, KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu (Karl Nordstrom) says:

>eliot@lanmola.engr.washington.edu (eliot) says:
>>
>>mchaffee@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu () writes:
>>>
>>>Porsche 911 is available with 4wd.
>>
>>now you're talking.  here's a sophisticated and complex system that's
>>actually better than Audi's.
>>
>>Audi quattro!!  the cars that started the ball rolling.  The company
>>with the most experience with the most refined AWD system your money
>>can buy.
>
>Well which is the better system, Porsche's or Audi's?
>
the article i read on the new porsche system said that for a true
perfomance driver, it sucked! not that it did not do what Porsche
designed it to do, but unfortunately, that was an attempt at keeping
themselves from being sued by idiots who would not learn to drive the 
rear engined monsters before(or during or after) purchasing one, and
apparently(the article goes) someone sued, and won, that because the
porsche did something different than what is considered "normal"
that the car was at fault, and not the peckerhead at the wheel who
didnt' bother to learn how his car was SUPPOSED to be driven and
how it handled BEFORE wrapping it around a tree...so..Porsche designed
into their new AWD..whatever the call it.system so that it would 
reduce the understeer(is that right??..i can't ever keep the two 
straight...)..well..at any rate..the mag said that,even though it
cannot be turned off, that the system is incompatable with the 
braking system so that the differentials release completely upon
braking..so..they took it out, tossed it into the turns like a 
normal porsche, only they lightly touched the brakes, to turn off
the differentials, and they said it drove like a REAL 911 improved..
so..they didn't agree with the all wheel drive setup for race tracking
it..but i dunno about tracktion, etc....depends on what YOU want with
it, i suppose....
good luck!(sorry to be biased and not say anything about the audi..but 
i know virtually nothing, except i can't see why more of them aren't on
the road!..they have the power, the all wheel drive..good looks..i dunno..
seems they'd be real popular in places like CO..)
DREW 
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From: tedebear@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen)
Subject: Re: CONSUMER REPORTS
Followup-To: alt.flame
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 02:14:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.012103.19921@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>Most of Teddy's post have a singular theme:  Buy American.
>But Teddy himself bought an Acura Integra.

as i said before, i don't think that pointing out that the saturn SC
won the firestone firehawk series last year translates into a Buy American
theme.  nor does talking about the sierra cosworth, or the BMW M5 touring.
i hardly think any of my posts exhorts people to buy american
cars at all costs.  if you have difficulty understanding that, your
grasp of the english language is quite limited.

this has gone on long enough, and i don't care what slants you
choose to place on my posts.  just put me in your kill file.
followups to alt.flame.
-teddy
From: gmk@cs.bham.ac.uk (Gideon M H Kay)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Car Statistics
Date: 12 Nov 92 11:47:51 GMT
Distribution: rec.autos
Organization: School of Computer Science, University of Birmingham, UK


 HELP!!

 I am currently in the middle of an undergraduate software project to
model traffic flow on high speed roads / Motorways (Freeways). This is a very
simple model of a car and its attributes. What I need are some basic
statistics about cars in general. If anybody can help me please email
me as I cannot check this newsgroup regularly.

 1. The range of acceleration rates for normal cars (preferably in
miles per hour) i.e. 40% of cars have accn rate of 14 secs for 0-60
etc

 2. The range of speed preferences for drivers i.e. 30% of drivers
drive 10mph under the speed limit, 30% at the limit etc.

 3. The range of top speeds for cars in production. i.e. 70% of cars 
    have top speed of 120mph etc.

 4. Any other statistics, however rough they may be about car
characteristics would be a great help.

 I am sorry that all my figures are in mph, if you send me details in
kph I will convert them for my own use. 

 If you can help please email me on the address below. Thanks for your time.


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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: kenny@osf.org (Kenneth Crudup)
Subject: Re: Analog Brake Light
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:13:56 GMT

In article <3850@key.COM> srj@key.COM (Scott R. Johnson) writes:
>So epileptics having seizures from the high-speed blinking are stupid?

Tell me where you heard this. I don't buy it.

I thought the "resonance frequency" for epilepsy was around 3HZ for >20 
seconds.

	-Kenny
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