From: lix@thames.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: FWD for Mr. H. Anonymous - Gen. Ma Yuan (1)
Date: 20 Nov 92 03:30:02 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Organization: Boston University

This is another forwarding from Mr. H. Anonymous.

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  Re: General Ma Yuan (I)   

In article <17537@mindlink.bc.ca> Sanyee wrote:

>I no longer admire [Ma Yuan's] glory in the civil war, in the wars with the
>west and south minorities, and in his conquest of Vietnam.  But his wish

I would very much like to comment on Sanyee's learned application of the 
term "conquest".  But that has got to wait because I am puzzled by the
strongly familiar echo I seem to hear from Sanyee's statements.

Then, all of a sudden it dawns on me.  What I just heard from Sanyee is 
exactly what I once learnt in the CCP's history class.

Please do not ever think I'm pulling our veteran CCP-fighter's legs.  No,
don't get me wrong.  I am "quite serious" about this very "big picture".  
We have all seen, heard, and smelt, if not touched by, that extraordinary 
sense of smug superiority, that self-assumed aura of nobility, and that 
indescribable disdain for "junk history" when Sanyee steps on his soapbox 
and starts preaching to some "narrow-minded nationalists", unrepentant 
"teenager chauvinists", and what-not.  Well, it all sounds too good \(em so 
good that it is just like what a former political instructor of mine used
to preach.

Yes, we have learnt that there was nothing "glorious" whatsoever until 
humankind was blessed with by the invincible Marxism and/or scientific 
communism.  In the rare exceptions where "glory" could be granted prior to 
that all-too-important milestone, they could only be various cases of "the 
oppressed rising against their oppressors".  Well, at least ever since man 
emerged from what they call "primitive communism", Marx' version of Eden.

By now, everyone can see Sanyee has taken this noble line to heart and 
reproduced it almost verbatim, after replacing communism with the most 
modern and the noblest "humanism", or "humanitarianism", Sanyee's brand.  
Thus, most of the old "glories" are nothing more than "junk".  General 
Ma Yuan's feats would become crimes against "minorities", if not humanity.  
Geshu Han would become "juxtaposed" with "hooligans", etc, etc.  Yue4 
Fei1 then should perhaps be also condemned, as he was during the CR by 
the CCP, for "having suppressed" some "peasants uprisings", and Chancellor 
Qin Hui/Gui/Kuai somehow "rehabilitated".  The best Sanyee would 
condescend occasionally to offer is naturally something not much 
different than the CCP's "kindest" catch phrase: Li4Shi3 Ju2Xian4Xing4.

Such is Sanyee's perfect hindsight and self-righteousness, in spite of 
numerous "big deals" and non-existent "messes."  Or we can call it
another "milestone" in the familiar "theory": "all human history had
just been like a perpetual dark night until the good Heaven bestowed
upon us Johnny/Marx/our enlightened older chap...."  No wonder Sanyee
has now turned his attention to torches and candles, :-).

(To be continued)

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