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From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Dragons' deaths & *between*
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:55:55 GMT

In article 5136@zooid.guild.org, Mother Nature <gaea@zooid.guild.org> () writes:
> jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca (Joshua Bell) writes:
> >ATWOP Spoilers ho!
> 
> >In article <memo.721878@cix.compulink.co.uk> starhunter@cix.compulink.co.uk writes:
> >>Ok so here's another thought:  When a dragon goes between he takes
> >>everything in contact with him, rider, passengers, fighting straps, etc,
> >>between with him. In Dragonflight Lord Meron's 'mountain assault team'
> >>were grabbed and taken between hanging from the dragons claws. So p'raps
> >>the reason dragons become airbourne before going between is so they won't
> >>take part of the ground they were standing on between with them.  Lumps
> >>of rock suddenly appearing in mid air and dropping to the ground is a
> >>hazard the Pernese can do without!
> >
> >But they do transfer directly from the ground in ATWOP. Its part
> >of 'doing what they think they can do' - they take what they want
> >to take with them.
> 
> Yes, but how far does this extend? Could a dragon who went between before
> taking off theoretically take all of Pern with him? (as opposed to just a
> chunk of ground).
> 
> ---
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i have a problem with a dragons teleport being compared to warp or hyperdrive tech.
i really doubt this will happen.
it has to do with the psyhic link. and also knowledge of what is going.
could u imagine next u gonna have them find records of earth and either all teleport to earth at the time the took off to get to pern or one mass teleport and theres pern where earth used to be ... 
hmmmmm wait a second ..
thats one way of getting rid of the red planet .. hehehe 

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
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From: Mother Nature <gaea@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Dragons' deaths & *between*
Organization: ZOOiD BBS
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 04:07:34 GMT

jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca (Joshua Bell) writes:
>ATWOP Spoilers ho!

>In article <memo.721878@cix.compulink.co.uk> starhunter@cix.compulink.co.uk writes:
>>Ok so here's another thought:  When a dragon goes between he takes
>>everything in contact with him, rider, passengers, fighting straps, etc,
>>between with him. In Dragonflight Lord Meron's 'mountain assault team'
>>were grabbed and taken between hanging from the dragons claws. So p'raps
>>the reason dragons become airbourne before going between is so they won't
>>take part of the ground they were standing on between with them.  Lumps
>>of rock suddenly appearing in mid air and dropping to the ground is a
>>hazard the Pernese can do without!
>
>But they do transfer directly from the ground in ATWOP. Its part
>of 'doing what they think they can do' - they take what they want
>to take with them.

Yes, but how far does this extend? Could a dragon who went between before
taking off theoretically take all of Pern with him? (as opposed to just a
chunk of ground).

---
Gaea (Mother Nature)                     gaea@zooid.guild.org
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"It's lost scent, you really feel bowls."
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:21:14 EST
From: Me, silly! <JAP8@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: Robinton & Film Comments

In article <BxMB8L.Btw@andy.bgsu.edu>, jkiley@andy.bgsu.edu (James H. Kiley)
says:

>        Yeah, from what I remember, and this would support the O'Toole idea,
>while Robinton didn't get too drunk with Lytol that evening, he did one hell
>of
>a credible job of seeming to be drunk, until F'lar needed to speak with him
>after Lytol had passed out.

>jk

Actually, he asked Lessa if he could accompany her to the Grub Room to
talk to F'lar after Lytol had passed out.
Ref:  Dragonquest...and I just read that bit this afternoon...honest.
Varoni
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From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: dragon names
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:33:48 GMT

In article 1841@cs.uow.edu.au, u9042067@cs.uow.edu.au (Lee Lorraine Smith) writes:
> scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis) writes:
> 
> >In article 23828@cs.uow.edu.au, u9042067@cs.uow.edu.au (Lee Lorraine Smith) writes:
> >> 
> >> >Xanth - the myth understood dragon 
> >> 
> >> What has the land of Xanth got to do with Pern?
> >> 		     \_ Pier's Anthony	  \_ Anne McCaffrey
> 
> 
> >it was a joke ... ]
> >oh boy u try to get a little pun on the thread and forget it people flambe' u.
> >geez i give up. 
> >---
> >Steve C. 
> 
> Hey it wasn't a flame just a simple inocent question :-) honest.
> 
> --
> Lee.


o.k. u are forgiven just this once .. 
hehe 

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
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From: IO20902@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: Robinton & Film Comments
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:55:29 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

Re: Robinton's drinking..
Well, you're right there, he never did drink to excess, at least to my recollec
tion, but he did -act- in such a way a few times, I remember another I think,
with his acting a lot more drunk than he was in actiality.. I think he was
drinking w/Fandarel on one occasion. Dunno.
:)
"My .sig is a small .sig but a .sig is supposed to be just a .sig. Dig?"
-=* Joshua Johnston io20902@maine.maine.edu *=-
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From: jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE)
Subject: Re: PernMUSH players: The Old Days Were Good!
Originator: jagreath@c00058-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:51:10 GMT


In article <95781@netnews.upenn.edu>, lwl@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Lydia Leong) writes:

|>6/23/91   Mass Netdeath. Er, Hatching. The queue froze, too. *sigh*
|>          The last two hours of this Hatching log are _unedited_. If anyone
|>          wants to edit it, be my guest.
|>          Tabbifli: "I think now is what 'we pause for station identification.
|>            Please stand by, as we are having technical difficulties."

That was one for the record books...Every other thing we saw was * has
disconnected.  And to think that I impressed the last hatchling in the clutch..
:) :)

R'han, rider of Bronze Vargath
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From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: moreta and orlith
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:36:08 GMT

oh really ? 
thats right .. so who was it that used a fire lizard and visualized the mass and the lizard freaked aand blinked out (to hide) and came back a little later scared to hell. 

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
---------------------------------------------------------------
From: kruegek@stein.u.washington.edu (Kirby Krueger)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: Can you access PernMUSH from a telnet system?
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:02:05 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <92316.175307JAP8@psuvm.psu.edu> Me, silly! <JAP8@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.212200.28468@u.washington.edu>,
>dunk@carson.u.washington.edu (John Dunkelburg) says:
>
>>I am currently operating from a telnet system, and I tried to
>>get into the PernMUSH but the system wouldn't even acknowledge
>>that such an address existed.   Is PernMUSH inaccessible from
>>a telnet network, or am I simply out of luck?
I tried to send you mail, but it kept bouncing.  Alright, I'm at the same
university, and I imagine what your problem is is that you are trying to use
the "Telnet" program on the terminals in the lab to connect.  These have site
restrictions, and can only connect to the university mainframes.  What you must
do is get into your account first, blip down to the Unix shell, and then
type 'telnet pern.pc.cs.cmu.edu 4201'.  Trust me, it really does work.  Also,
you should seriously look into your mail forwarding setup - I think it is
misconfigured so that nobody can send you mail.  (fmail on the UW machines).

Sorry for posting this to the whole group, most of whom are not interested.
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From: stanley@plains (Brian Stanley)
Subject: Re: PernMUSH: The Return of Brendon
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 19:49:15 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

morpheus@cco.caltech.edu (Kynn Bartlett) writes:
: 
: That's 'Holder Malachite' now.
: 
: 
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:      |  '"""'  |                 Brum Hold                   |  '"""'  |
:      |  """""  |                                             |  """""  |
:       \'"""""'/           morpheus@cco.caltech.edu            \'"""""'/
:        \_____/   "Yo he yo!"                 "Rice is Nice!"   \_____/

Yes, sir, Master Holder Malachite, sir!  :)

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From: morpheus@cco.caltech.edu (Kynn Bartlett)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: PernMUSH: The Return of Brendon
Date: 7 Nov 1992 06:20:36 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu

In article <Bx99vK.A1t@ns1.nodak.edu> stanley@plains (Brian Stanley) writes:
> [...]
>'Master Malachite!  How ...uh... nice to see you again!  Well, gotta run!'
> [...]
>But even if you don't miss me enough to help me rejoin you, I still miss
>you all (even Master Malachite, for some bizarre, masochistic reason I
>cannot fathom).

That's 'Holder Malachite' now.


     ___________                                             ___________
     |         |             M A L A C H I T E               |         |
     |   '"'   |                                             |   '"'   |
     |  '"""'  |                 Brum Hold                   |  '"""'  |
     |  """""  |                                             |  """""  |
      \'"""""'/           morpheus@cco.caltech.edu            \'"""""'/
       \_____/   "Yo he yo!"                 "Rice is Nice!"   \_____/
From: v115p8d6@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (she listens like her head's on fire..)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: Film possiblitiy???
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:50:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct29.203044.21341@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn) writes...
>In article <1992Oct29.104347.15996@nmsu.edu>
>gorsha@acca.nmsu.edu (Gorsha) writes:
> 
> 

I have some ideas here for casting..:-)

Lessa-Mary Elizabeth Monstrontonio (how d'you spell it?)

kylara-Kim Bassinger

Robinton-Peter O'Toole

F'lar-Gabriel Byrne

F'nor-Keanu Reeves

Brekke-the girl who played Nyssa in Doctor Who.

I have problems with Menolly. Someone suggested Winona Ryder, which is
okay, but I always pictured her as being somewhat tall and thin and
rather shy. 


> 
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From: IO20902@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Poll: To create pern.UUCP@<Whatever> or Somesuch
Date: 7 Nov 92 18:19:55 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

Well, well.. It seems that my incessant urge to run a BBS of -any- type is
kicking in, and merging with BitNet and Pern, perhaps. I am offering to
set up a bitnet node for Pern players to have EMail only access to, including
mailing lists etc.. Basically, a reroute site, or a backup mail drop. I figure
that I've got 6 megs free on my D: partition, and perhaps a mail site may be
useful. I do plan to try and get a node set up, and perhaps relay a.f.p here
to my home machine. And if so, setting up a mailing list server, may not be
all that difficult. Rules on it would be basically this:

People would request accounts VIA Email to me at the site, from current address
es, and  I would assign them a random password which would be sent VIA page to
the person asking for the account. Nobody would be denied an account, and multi
ple accounts per person (for multi-characters) would be acceptable. I would
arrange things, if possible, for maximum privacy. No real names would be kept
anyplace except on my server, to keep my butt in the clear, and everyone elses
confidential.

 If this sounds like an acceptable proposal, please let me know. I'm going to
be mucking about with BBS server types quite a lot for a while, and if this
sounds good.. I'll be able to limit my choices of software to play with to the
bitnet and usenet compatibles.

Note: If you think this may have been an inappropriate place for this, sorry.
but the only purpose said site would have, is for Pern players from any `
of the current MUSH and MUSE's with a Pern theme. Gripe in Email please :)

=-_____-= Joshua Johnston (Packell@PernMUSH) io20902@maine.maine.edu
==-___-== "The opinions and comments made by Mr. Johnston are not necessarily
===-_-=== those of U. of M. Computer Center Staff. If they were, all the world
==-___-== would be in deep ca-ca."
=-_____-=                   -Joshua Johnston, man of the never good nuff .sig
     "I just flipped off President George, I'm going to Disneyland!"
"My feet they can't move, under moon and star. Where am I to go, now that I've
   gone too far?"
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From: chris@keris.demon.co.uk (Chris Croughton)
Subject: I can't get into PernMUSH! 
Distribution: world
Organization: Keristor Systems
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 00:39:51 +0000


In article <92313.134150JAP8@psuvm.psu.edu> JAP8@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

>I tried getting into PernMUSH today on the new machine...it gave me a new
>screen...something to the effect of Pern MUSH MUD Server and the version and
>a login prompt.  I typed in my character's name and my password, and it would
>not let me in...did I do something wrong or is the new machine just acting up?

Well, I got in (the first time I've tried it) fine at around 18:00 GMT
and again around 23:00 GMT.  It told me to say 'create name password'
for a new character, or 'connect name password' for an existing one.

Incidentally, someone posted that PernMUSH is unfriendly - I haven't
found anyone like that so far.  Thanks to Shandra and Ariella for
help...  And Music_Librarian and Artin at the Harper Hall.  And
apologies to R'till, who I just found in my log - the message managed to
scroll off my screen...

Hopefully I'll be back on in a few minutes...

Keris
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From: jtraub+@CS.CMU.EDU (Joseph Traub)
Subject: Re: I can't get into PernMUSH!
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:22:32 GMT

Jean,
it sounds as if you forgot the port number there :)

You got the machine's standard login prompt.

Try it again with port number 4201

--Monochilde
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From: IO20902@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Movie - MUSH Address - Deaths - UUCP
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:06:54 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

Well, In response to someone having problems connecting to the PernMUSH site,
perhaps they may not have a functional nameserver. I have a pretty glitchy
nameserver (Especially with port numbers) so instead I use the numerical name
for pern.pc.cs.cmu.edu which is 128.2.250.30 4201

 As to a possible Pern based movie, I must cast my vote in for live action. I d
on't really think animation of any quality could really capture the people that
make Pern such an appealing place. If not for the dragons, and the types of peo
ple Pern generates, all we've got is a tiny world with slightly different flora
 and fauna. I was visiting a friend last night, and we watched a laserdisc call
ed 'The mind's eye' which was forty minutes or so or computer animation and sou
nd. *amazing* is all I can say. After seeing that, I must say, budget be damned
, that a combination of live action, and computer graphics is -definitely- the
best bet. For actors, go with 98% unknowns. For music, don't ask me ofr opinion
s.. I'm a 'Talking Heads' fan. :)

 As for the death of Robinton, and the self-deletion of AIVAS in ATWoP, I
literally cried over that one myself. It was a real pity to see the way Robinto
n was treated in that book, I was shocked to think the McC. could even consider
having him treated like that. Using that as a base, I'd likely cast my lot ther
e that it was written by a ghost writer.

 And on an AIVAS note of sorts, I have already requested a bitnet node which wi
ll be an anonymous mail forwarding site for PernMUSH/SouConMUSH/DragonsFire/Dra
gonsDawn players. I have gotten base approval from the local node to set up my
site, which may be known as aivas.UUCP and will hopefully begin operation withi
n two weeks of this posting.

=-+-="Now I'm steppin into the Twilight Zone, This is a madhouse, feels like
==-== bein home. My feet they can't move under moon and star.. Where am I to
=-+-= go now that I've gone too far?" - Twilight Zone, by Golden Earring
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From: jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca (Joshua Bell)
Subject: Re: Dragons' deaths & *between*
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 05:40:05 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Nov5.225555.2981@shearson.com> scarrobi@shearson.com writes:
>In article 5136@zooid.guild.org, Mother Nature <gaea@zooid.guild.org> () writes:
>> jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca (Joshua Bell) writes:

>> >But they do transfer directly from the ground in ATWOP. Its part
>> >of 'doing what they think they can do' - they take what they want
>> >to take with them.

>> Yes, but how far does this extend? Could a dragon who went between before
>> taking off theoretically take all of Pern with him? (as opposed to just a
>> chunk of ground).

Recall WHY they did all that training in the cargo bay and space
- to convince the dragons that things in space are weightless.
Once they 'thought' the ship was weightless, they could take the
engines Between to the Red Planet, even though they still would
have weighed several million Newtons in the Red Planet's low
gravity. You'd have to convince a dragon that it _could_ take the
planet with it... which I think would be tougher than moving the
planet itself. 

>i have a problem with a dragons teleport being compared to warp
>or hyperdrive tech.  i really doubt this will happen.  it has to
>do with the psyhic link. and also knowledge of what is going.
>could u imagine next u gonna have them find records of earth and
>either all teleport to earth at the time the took off to get to
>pern or one mass teleport and theres pern where earth used to be
>...  hmmmmm wait a second ..  thats one way of getting rid of the
>red planet .. hehehe

Take a laptop computer, feed in star maps, hop in a space-suit
and get one for your dragon, Between into space, dial up a view
from Earth orbit, and spend several days in Between, with no
sensations, on your way to Earth. I think it'd work. :) You'd
want to make small (say, 10ly) jumps of a few hours, so as not to
go completely nuts. But I think its a reasonable post-AWTOP
future.

>Steve C. 

PS: Steve, please try to word-wrap before you hit the 80 column
mark. Also, capitalizing and writing out 'you' will vastly
improve the perception of you by readers of your posts.

Joshua
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From: quirk@pioneer.unm.edu (Gym Z. Quirk)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: PernMUSH players: The Old Days Were Good!
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:02:05 GMT
Organization: Nit-Pickers for a Better Tomorow Afternoon

In article <1dbhurINNjcr@gap.caltech.edu> julius@cco.caltech.edu (julius yang) writes:
>lwl@stipple.seas.upenn.edu (Lydia Leong) writes:
>>I'm somewhat tempted to write up "The First Year of PernMUSH", as told
>>by my collected logs. If there's sufficient interest, I'll get around to
>>doing it, one of these days (Winter Break?)
>
>Sufficient interest exists on my part. :) Seriously, I think that one of 
>the best aspects about PernMUSH is an actual history (both player-created
>and of course Anne-created) which defines a lot of the atmosphere.  Having
>something like a chronological outline of Pern's 10th Interval (izzat right?)
>would go a long way towards developing newbie interest, in my opinion.
>And it would make for downright amusing reading in parts, if your log quotes
>are any indication!

Of course, the next question is whether or not we want these
chronicles coded into the PernMUSH Harper Hall archives. ;-)

Kurion@PernMUSH, ArchiveMaster and Fort WeyrHarper ;-)

-- 
Capt. Gym Z. Quirk  (Known to some as Taki Kogoma)  quirk@pioneer.unm.edu
 I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to
                          what I have now...
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