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From: andyh@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Andrew J. Huang)
Subject: Re: Help with slipping transmission
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:44:34 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.180444.23014@scott.skidmore.edu> wwein@scott.skidmore.edu (warren wein) writes:
>
>	Saturday morning I took my 1990 Mitsubishi Eclipse gsx out for
>a drive.  I went to pass someone in 4th gear and the engine started
>reving but I wasn't moving any fater.  Then the revs dropped and I
>started accelerating.  I was worried that the clutch might be going
>but clutch take up in all gears was normal.  I tried flooring the car
>in 5th gear and the same reving and then drop in revs , acceleration.
>This did not happen in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd gears.  Last night I took the

>wwein@skidmore.edu 

Classical slipping clutch problems.  However, in 2years I'm surprised
it's worn.  Check clutch adjustment if any - this could be as easy as
loosening a cable adjuster, 5 mins.

If you've been hard on the clutch (city driving or frequent visitor at
dragstrips) maybe this is expected.

As for safety, it's not an issue.  It will not explode or cause you to
go off the road.  You should assume you have less accelleration.

Damage to the car will be minimal even if the clutch is badly worn.
Extreme wear results in a scored flywheel and pressure plate.  In
general the flywheel would be machined and the pressure plate replaced
during a clutch job.  (However, if you do catch it early you might
be able to save both).

Sliping in 4,5 but not 1-3 is expected.  The torque transmitted
through the clutch gives more accelleration in lower gears so you
don't notice the slipping as much.

-andy

Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
From: sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund)
Subject: Re: Window tinting
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 16:16:37 GMT

In article <kj74425@pro-haven.cts.com> shadow@pro-haven.cts.com (Blaine Hufnagle) writes:
>
>Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 15:01:38 CST
>From: shadow@pro-haven.cts.com (Blaine Hufnagle)
>Subject: Re: Help... Tinted Windows
>To: out!rec-autos-tech
>Message-Id: <1992Nov17.150138.6682@pro-haven.cts.com>
>References: <1992Nov17.011831.17719@sco.com>
>In-Reply-To: danielle@sco.COM (THE RED NINJA)
>Organization: ProLine [pro-haven] - Pariahs' Haven BBS, 409/693-8262, 9600-300
>
>In <1992Nov17.011831.17719@sco.com> danielle@sco.COM (THE RED NINJA) writes: 
>% I violated section 26708A of the Vehicle Code and that I 
>% must remove the tint from both of my doors as I cannot have
>% ANY kind of tint on the doors.
>
>>From what I understand, it is against FEDERAL law (_not_ state) to have the
>front-most driver side and passenger side windows tinted.  Something having
>to do with visibility, if memory serves.  I've never heard of this being
>actually enforced, except for the fact that if you've ever noticed, when you
>order "tinted windows" on your new car, the drivers and front-seat
>passenger's windows are never tinted.  I see lots and lots and lots of cars
>and trucks around here with all the windows but the windshield tinted,
>including my truck.  No problems with the cops.
> 

When I lived in MN I knew of a number of people who tinted their windows
all the way around with no problem - I understand in TX you can do all 
the windows too - in CA, the windshield and two front (driver & passenger)
cannot be tinted - the CHP likes to be able to see into the car when 
they are approaching it - so, it seems to me, the 'safety factor' involved
is the CHPs not mine.....B-)


>For what its worth, I think the "reduction in visibility" arguement holds
>water like a sieve, as I find I can actually see _better_ with the tint than
>without.  However, I might add that I am about the world's most glare
>sensitive person, and the tint helps by cutting out the glare.  YMMV.
>
>-blaine
>
>
>          a.k.a. The Midnight Shadow    |  1979 Chevy Urban Assault Vehicle
>Texas Aggie Bus Driver and proud of it! |  1982 Thomas Transit Liner bus
>Another Bodybuilder from HELL!!         |  1982 Yamaha Vision   DoD #7192
>        "Mine is not to wonder why, Mine is but to look and cry....."
>


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From: ravalent@mothra.syr.EDU (Bob Valentine)
Subject: Re: ********************* HELP NEEDED!!! *****************************
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 00:57:20 EST

In article <1992Nov22.202305.4656@cc.umontreal.ca> cholette@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Cholette Martin) writes:
>Hello everyone!
>
> I have a 1988 Honda Civic DX with 1.5 litre engine. My clutch is pretty
> worn out and needs to be replaced. 

> I have a friend who gave me a clutch
> from an 88 civic, he told me that the car had 5000 km when it got scrapped.
> However, I find that the clutch looks pretty thin, But I have no idea how
> thick a clutch should be, I had never seen one until today. Can anyone tell
> me how thick a clutch for my car should be??? That way I can mesure it
> and see how used my spare clutch really is. Also is there any other way to
> make sure the clutch is good? How about the pressure plate, he gave me that
> also. Should I go ahead and get it installed?? I know a mechasnic who will
> do for me for about $100 on his spare time.
>
> Please help, I would aprreciate any suggestion via E-mail.
>
>Thanks a million!
>Martin Cholette
>cholette@jsp.umontreal.ca
> 

Installing a used clutch?  You've got to be joking.  Anyway, either 
look it up in the manual, or go to the auto store, ask for a new one,
and take out your handy caliper/micrometer/ruler and measure the 
store-new clutch.

Really, is is worth installing a used clutch?  Not IMHO.

I hate to sound insulting, but is the clutch adjusted right?

Personally, I'd feel awful stupid replacing a out of adjustment clutch.

-->Bob
  --->ravalent@mailbox.syr.edu
From: hstark@caip.rutgers.edu (howard stark)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
Subject: Car Computers/Modified Chips
Keywords: computers, chips, controllers
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:34:43 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.




  I would like to experiment with re-programming automobile computers.
I have seen ads for high performance chips in various
auto mags which claim to increase a cars performance through
the use of a new chip for the auto's computer.

My questions include:

Do these chips have industry standard
   EPROM or PROM configurations?

Do these chips contain merely a list of parameters for your engine
   or is this info a real program?

What kind of CPU's do they use? Is it an ASIC or do car manufacturers
   like to use standard microcontrollers (ie: the PIC series)?


If you have an answer to one or more of these questions, or
   you know of where I can obtaian more info about this
   topic, please post or Email.

           thanx
                                     howy
                                     hstark@caip.rutgers.edu
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From: jws@billy.mlb.semi.harris.com (James W. Swonger)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech,rec.autos
Subject: Re: bearings
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:02:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: mlb.1992Nov17.210236.9492
Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne FL


 Solid-axle rear bearings are typically permanently-lubed and just get
replaced. To get 1/2" wobble is pretty bad. Pulling axles varies from 
type to type. Brute force was necessary for me (brute force and a
crowbar, that is). The parts ought to be pretty cheap - a bearing and a
seal. If you have the 9" Ford rear, it was pretty much made to come apart
from what I gather, so you might have a pretty easy time of it.

 If you beat the truck on rocks or something, there's the possibility of
a bent wheel or axle. When you pull the axles you might have them checked.
Also, R&R of the wheel bearings may need the services of a press. I saw an
ad the other day for Pep Boys where they'll replace them for $10 an axle
labor - beats cutting them off with a chisel and paying to have them 
pressed on anyway. 
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From: chedley@carthago.intel.com (CHEDLEY_AOURIRI)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
Subject: Overheating engine
Date: 14 Nov 92 01:59:35 GMT
Reply-To: chedley@carthago.intel.com (CHEDLEY_AOURIRI)
Organization: Intel-Corp,_Hillsboro,_Oregon

Is it normal for a newly rebuilt engine to overheat?

I had the 425 V8 engine of a 1977 Cadillac-DeVille rebuilt and ssince
last summer. Since then, I have noticed that it really overheats. 
I've checked the cooling system and replaced a worn water pump, to no avail.

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Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
Subject: FOR SALE: Factory repair manual for '83 Honda Civics
Date: 22 Nov 92 00:25:14 GMT
Organization: UCSB Physics Department

Factory Repair Manual for 1983 Honda Civics
 o includes Station Wagon & Hatchbacks
 o good condition

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From: svissa@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Sirish Vissa)
Subject: Re: Jag auto trans
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:15:52 GMT

In article <Mf37Jey00VI=423EY3@andrew.cmu.edu> Paul M Taylor <pt1e+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
{ stuff deleted }
>Yep.  It's called most any automatic.  The Jag uses a GM TH-400 
>last time I checked.  Later models have the 4L80, a HD, OD version
>of the regular 400.  Also shift kits set to street-strip will overide
>the default upshift.
>
Sorry Paul,
   Just could not resist.
  Last time I checked, Ford owned Jaguar....
    What would a GM transmission be doing in a Ford car.....
just my $.02 worth.
                  sirish


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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: luoni@jasper.mlb.semi.harris.com (Perry Luoni)
Subject: Re: Whining about buying American cars
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:33:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne FL

In article <1992Nov16.175954.9892@athena.mit.edu> tgardner@athena.mit.edu (Timothy J Gardner) writes:
>In article <uznerk.721888494@mcl> uznerk@mcl.ucsb.edu (Andrew Krenz) writes:
>>In <1992Nov14.163136.24473@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> kiel_jeff@macmail1.rtsg.mot.com writes:
>
>...
>
>>>7.  Putting US auto-workers out of work is good for America.  Let's say a US
>>>auto plant goes under.  A few workers loose their jobs.  So what!  First of
>>>all, they were making bad cars anyway - they do not deserve to work!  Second,
>>>they are going to collect unemployment anyway.  They can spend this money on
>>>the economy which will definitely HELP the U.S. economy.  Eventually they 
>>>will find one of those new "service" jobs like working at McDonald's.  
>>>Besides, if enough people loose their jobs we would need to open another 
>>>unemployment office which means we need to hire more people to staff the 
>>>office which CREATES jobs.  You see?  This definitely helps the economy by 
>>>creating jobs and putting more money into the economy.
>Manufacturing equals national prosperity.  You may have your ass covered for
>now in the service sector, but as we lose manufacturing jobs, our standard of 
>living declines, and your children are going to live in smaller houses, drive
>junkier cars, and have fewer electonic toys than we do.  That is the 
>consequence for sending wealth out of our country.  I'm tired of hearing 
>people trying to rationalize their way out of this responsibility.  It's
>time we grow up as a nation and accept the consequences of our actions.           

Speaking of American cars.  GM is releasing a almost totally redesigned
f-body line, Camaro and Firebird, Z28, Trans Am ... in Jan 1993 that 
promises to deliver a 280 HP V8 with a 6 speed manual that lists for
under 25k with all the options.  I was wondering if there are any other
cars out there in this price range that can compete with the power
that this line will deliver.  I don't want to get into a discussion
about how GM is unreliable or that insurance will cost a fortune.  I
am looking for a sports car with some muscle and for the bucks I just
don't see any competitors.  How about you
From: philg@zurich.ai.mit.edu (Philip Greenspun)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Ford kicked my ass in court
Date: 18 Nov 92 11:26:15
Organization: M.I.T. Artificial Intelligence Lab.
Distribution: rec
Reply-To: philg@martigny.ai.mit.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: zug.ai.mit.edu


I promised to let you know how my motion to compel discovery went and
here is the somewhat sorry tale...

The judge, a 50ish woman in a bad mood, (not the same judge who denied
Ford' motion for summary judgment) came in and was upset because the
requests for documents and responses were not "filed with the court",
i.e. in front of her.  Although Ford's attorney and I gave them to
her, she was sour.  She clearly did not read the legal arguments in
either my motion to compel or Ford's opposition memo or my reply to
their opposition memo.  Obviously, she did not look anything up in a
law library since she decided the motion on the spot (judges who wish
to give an appearance of fairness usual say "I'll take the matter
under advisement")

She asked us to orally argue each point, and she only allowed me
points 1,4,5, and 12:

1) more paperwork between Ford and the dealer who sold me the car

4) more complete production of correspondence between me and Ford

5) more complete production of internal documents relating to me or my
particular car

12) documents relating to service procedures for my car

Ford's lawyer made weak, vague objections and kept talking about my
"conspiracy theory" and how they couldn't produce advertisements, for
example, because they were now on microfilm.

In short, I was railroaded, and I didn't get documents to prove my
contention that Ford concealed likely problems with this car.

On the bright side:

This will be grounds for appeal if I lose my case or don't win as much
as I think I should.

I can ask for a lot of the same information in interrogatories and
requests for admissions.  Ford will object but my motion to compel
will almost certainly come up before a different judge who may be more
pro-discovery.

Finally, the judge mentioned in an aside to Ford's attorney that "I'll
bet that you will rue the day you had this transferred from the small
claims docket."  Ford's attorney said "We already do, your Honor."


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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: jbii@HDFS1.acd.com ( John O. Bell II )
Subject: Re: Whining about buying American cars
Summary: What's all the fuss?
Keywords: take chill pill get clue everyone
Organization: Applied Computing Devices, Inc., Terre Haute IN
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:44:40 GMT

You know folks, this is America, and you are entitled to you opinion, but
can't we get off the "dumb/lazy/stupid American pig/dogs can't build cars",
which is invariably followed by the "japanese cars stink, etc." reply?
It's your money, you earned it, BUY WHAT YOU WANT.
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: Re: Whining about buying American cars
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:50:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.230642.17579@bnr.ca> dclayton@bnr.ca (Don Clayton) writes:
>In article <By301s.ABC@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast) writes:

>|> 	C'mon Don, wouldn't you rather feed a kid from Halifax NS than 
>|> Halifax, NC?  All else being equal.  I would certainly favor kids in the US
>|> to Canada in this case, all else equal again.  Nothing personal, just gotta
>|> look out for #1 and all that.
>|> 
>|> 			Chintan Amin
>
>Onto the soap box :
>
>No, I'd rather feed all the kids.  Failing that I'll let the system (i.e. Capatalism
>with some social programs) handle it.  I'm not going to selectively choose which ones
>live and which ones die based on what flag they live under.  Look out for number one
>means you, your family, your relatives, your friends, etc., not those that fly the
>same flag.
>
>Patriotism sucks!  It leads to wars, hate and racism.
>
>Getting of the soap box.
>
>Don Clayton

(ON SOAPBOX)
	Thanks for the soapbox:

First notice no ignorant attacks on your flag/baseball joke.

	Well, I guess you are entitled to your own opinion, and, I agree that
patriotism maybe bad, but here in the US, and I'm sure in Canada, we're faced 
with
our companies shipping jobs to foriegn soil, and our workers sure can't go to
Mexico or Taiwan or Germany et. al. to work.  It just isn't feasable, so when
you see a good car, produced in the US by US workers and a US company, and it
is competetive with foreign products, (such as Saturn, Taurus, Mark VIII, STS,
to name a few) you should buy it over the Japanese/German/Korean/Mexican/
Australian/Canadia/Britsh... You get the picture, car.  It is an added 
incentive to buy.  

	Frankly, I'd like to think that is what everyone does.  Now, since
you said that patriotism starts wars...  and you're Canadian:

"Better the pride that resides in a citizen of the world,
	Than the pride that divides when a colourful rag is unfurled."
				----Neil Peart---

	Ah, but only if life were as simple as a song...

(OFF SOAPBOX)
Anyone want this soapbox...?

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From: dclayton@bnr.ca (Don Clayton)
Subject: Re: Japanese Full Size Trucks
Reply-To: dclayton@bnr.ca (Don Clayton)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:50:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.142912.38332@watson.ibm.com>, born@scepter.raleigh.ibm.com writes:
|> Has anyone seen the commercial advertising the new full-size truck
|> made by Toyota? (I believe it was Toyota.)  I've read in the past that
|> this is a VERY profitable market segment for the U.S. manufacturers.
|> It will be very interesting to see how they (Ford, GM, Chrysler) respond 
|> to this new entry.

It will also be interesting to see if the explode when hit on the side (re : GM :):)

Seriously, is that rn news reader you're using a PM application, or just a line-by-line
one?

Don Clayton
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From: eliot@stalfos.engr.washington.edu (eliot)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: CONSUMER REPORTS
Date: 19 Nov 92 03:56:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: engr.Nov19.035232.24496
Organization: clearer than blir

In article <lglq9kINNs18@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> tut@cairo.Eng.Sun.COM (Bill "Bill" Tuthill) writes:
>1.  The Mazda Navajo is "more reliable than average" while the Ford
>Explorer has "average reliability", despite the fact that they are the
>same vehicle, made at the same factory.  How could this be?

care to respond to this, john?  :-)

>2.  CR always complains about spare tires underneath the rear of a car,
>because "your hands get dirty".

they also complain about lots of other petty, unimportant stuff.
sometimes their ignorance is amazing.  e.g.  they really bashed the
alfa milano (hello, richard!) for pedal location without realizing
that one wonderful feature of italian cars is the ease of
heel-and-toeing.  i suppose given the "ideal family sedan" standard
that they follow it is valid criticism.  but the least they could do
is to mention that this is because of a different design philosophy as
opposed to incompetence or bad design.  lots and lots more examples
when i remember...

>3.  This month's report on sport utility vehicles misses an important
>point about off-road driving: low range.  As someone who spends lots of
>time on dirt roads, I can say that low range is more important than 4WD
>under most conditions.  CR didn't say anything, and from what I could
>see in the pictures, the Montero didn't even have low range, and it was
>missing in Jeep Quadratrack.  Anyway, the SUV report was obviously done
>by somebody who never goes off-road.

heh!  after all like they say, they are testing to see how good the SUVs
would serve as "ideal family sedans"... what on earth would an ideal
family sedan be doing off road??  :-)

>4.  I hate automatic and CR hardly ever tests manual transmissions.

see above.  :-)


eliot
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: quadrun@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jason G Velasco)
Subject: Re: Fast Japanese Sports Cars
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 00:36:43 GMT


I would also like to point out that the original poster is from CANADA.

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