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From: evans-cic-is%micmac@REDSTONE-EMH2.ARMY.MIL (Evans-CIC-IS)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: NCSA Telnet from PowerBook
Date: 5 Jan 93 05:39:53 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Hey all:

If I had a MacTCP/NCSA-BYU Telnet connection established from a powerbook or
even a desktop Mac (lets say IIsi) to a UNIX box and run an application called
Empress ... How do I get the functions key commands to work.  I can see that
the PowerBooks have no FuncKeys, so is there a key combination replacement?   
I have tried this from a IIsi, and get junk when ever I press a Function Key
(lets say F3).  Am I missing something in preferences/window configuration?

Second,  I asked this question about a (1) year and since then my mail account
was removed accidently on purpose and so all my reference address's were lost
forever :-( ...  but there was nice qentleman from BYU that modified NCSA
Telnet to create version 2.5b for me to fix the printing bug from Hp
Deskwriter.  Does anyone know who this person was and maybe someone has his
email address.   Its a shot in the dark, I know...but maybe he still reads this
forum.

Thanx
Troy

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From: mday@pollock.mmwb.ucsf.edu (Mark Day)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Is uab for me?
Summary: Do I need to install uab?
Keywords: uab, cap
Date: 8 Jan 93 23:42:44 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

I currently have CAP 6.0 patch level 126 installed on our Sun 690 MP running
Sun OS 4.1.3.  I am using the native EtherTalk mode, and providing
AppleTalk services via aufs, lwsrv, and papif.

I now would like to use this computer to route AppleTalk traffic across
it's 2 ethernet interfaces.  I've read the CAP documentation, and made
an initial stab at this, but so far it's been a dismal failure.

Our topography:


                       ___________
 EtherTalk Zone "A"    |         |	EtherTalk Zone "B"
------|----------------|Sun 690MP|------------|--------------
      |                -----------    	      |       
 ------------				------------
 |ARA server|				| FastPath |
 |	    |				|	   |
 ------------				------------

My questions:
1. Can I use only aarpd to do this, or must I also install uab?
2. Can I have both uab and aarpd both running at the same time?  I use
   native EtherTalk since zone "B" is EtherTalk Phase II.
3. If not, do I have to abandon the native EtherTalk mode and rebuild
   everything using the uab mode?
4. If so, does the following bridge_desc file look OK:

	picasso.mmwb.ucsf.edu   [elap,le:0]     mkip    [0]
	picasso.mmwb.ucsf.edu   [elap,le:1]     mkip    [10860,A]

5. Any other gotchas I should be aware of?
6. Will Charles and Di ever patch things up for the kid's sake?


The FAQ states that uab is only Phase I, but in the question above that
statement it implies that uab can route between Phase II nets.

Thanks for any pointers you can give me,

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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: frans@fwi.uva.nl (Frans Lotty)
Subject: driver for deskwriter for localtalk pc card???
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:05:36 GMT

Does anyone have or know of a HP dekwriter driver which can be installed
on a PC which carries a localtalk card? There are drivers available
for laserwriter and imagewriters. Or does one have to patch the imagewriter
name into deskwriter?
Much obliged for ANY help


frans

email:frans@fwi.uva.nl
From: yaosenko@acsu.buffalo.edu (Yaosen Ko)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: How to rebuild CAP volumes' desktop?
Date: 5 Jan 93 03:45:55 GMT
Organization: UB


Greetings,

Sorry if this is an FAQ. BUT, how do you rebuild a CAP-mounted
volume from Macintosh?  Our server is a Sun SparcStation 1+ 
running SunOS 4.1.1 + CAP 6.0 patch level 100.

Thankx for any info.
From: sivbl@win4.vut.EDU.AU (Brett L Sivies)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: ethertalk and localtalk at the same time
Keywords: ethertalk localtalk
Date: 12 Jan 93 09:13:36 GMT
Organization: Victoria University Of Technology, Melbourne, Australia

Hello,

I have a delemar...

A staff member where I work has 2 printers, a macintosh with a 19"
colour monitor, which he uses as a server, and a macintosh laptop
which he takes from location to location, and on returning to his
office downloads the information gathered on the laptop into the mac
server.

Now the problem is this.  He now has an ethernet card in his mac
server, which he wants to have connected to the ethernet to receive
mail and take advantage of other equipment on the network.  BUT. he
cannot once he has changed the network software use the laser printers
in his office area, or use the mac server from his laptop because the
appletalk is touted through the ethernet card.

Is there ANY software that will allow both ethernet and local talk to
be send from the same mac??  I remember an apple sales person
mentioning something about using a macintosh as a gateway server from
local talk to ethertalk, but I cannot remember who said it or if it
could be done...

anyhelp would be appreciated..

thanks

bye
Brett Sivies

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From: Firstname.Lastname@anu.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Mac Plus/MacTCP 1.1.1
Date: 5 Jan 1993 07:25:09 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.54.2

In article <BKORT.93Jan4180627@k12-nis.bbn.com> bkort@k12-nis.bbn.com (Barry
Kort) writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.121719.9853@ac.dal.ca> johnmacd@ac.dal.ca writes:
>
>   I'm trying to run Mac System 7.1 on some Mac Pluses. Does anyone know if 
>   the MacTCP 1.1.1 includes the Mac Plus Tool fix or if the 1.1 patcher will 
>   work.
>
>According to advice posted here a week or so ago, MacTCP 1.1.1 already
>has the fix for the MacPlus, and should not be tinkered with by the
>Mac Plus Tool fix.
>

My experiences:

I have  tried MacTCP 1.1.1  with system 7.0.1 (+ Tuneups etc) on a MacPlus
(localtalk connection), with NO SUCCESS.  TCP connections were very unreliable
and often "timed out". It failure similar symtoms to MacTCP 1.1 
Going back to MACTCP 1.1+  resolved all the problems...................... 

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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: rob@leland.Stanford.EDU (Rob Tanner)
Subject: Re: Problem with FileMaker Pro version 2.0v2 on a CAP volume
Keywords: CAP FileMaker
Organization: Stanford University, California
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 18:58:30 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.225458.24150@leland.Stanford.EDU> "Rob Tanner" <rob@sherlock.stanford.edu> writes:
>
>I have an on-going (meaning I haven't been able to fix it yet) with
>FileMaker Pro version 2.0 (both 2.0v1 and 2.0v2) files becoming
>damaged (and sometimes NOT recoverable) when residing on a CAP volume.
>I have not had the same problem with files residing on the Mac.
>

I received the following reply by e-mail:

=>Unfortunately, FileMaker and CAP are incompatible because CAP does not
=>support the Open/Deny modes that FileMaker requires to detect that a file
=>is open by another user.  So when two or more users attempt to open the
=>same file from a CAP server, the file usually becomes corrupted.
=>
=>The only safe way to use FileMaker with a file on a CAP server is to
=>allow only one user to access the file via CAP, and have other users
=>open the file through FileMakers network mechanism.
=>

The proposed solution is not acceptable, which leads me to ask whether
or not there is a work-around, or whether I need to go for  commercial
apple fileserver system like Ushare from IPT?  Any suggestions?

Rob Tanner
Stanford University

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From: jason stewart <jasons@bmc.uu.se>
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: Compiling CAP on A/UX 3.0
Date: 11 Jan 1993 23:34:32 GMT
Organization: department of medical genetics
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: mac2.medgen.uu.se
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d16
X-XXMessage-ID: <A777D18AF6032408@mac2.medgen.uu.se>
X-XXDate: Tue, 12 Jan 93 09:38:18 GMT

In article <9301040912.AA56021@Bigfig.intercon.com> Brian Lichorowic,
brian@intercon.com writes:
>> OK, I know that this is supposed to work pretty much straight out of
the 
>> box, but it isn't for me. Could one of you who's got CAP60 patched to 
>> 126 kindly give mNever mind....

No, wait a minute! I got some real problems with CAP 6.0 patch 126. I did
config and all the makes up to make install, and then suddenly wham! the
makefile doesn't fill all the commands properly (the $PROGS variable is
apparently undefined) so the _strip $PROGS_ becomes just _strip_ when it
executes (ehich generates a nice healthy error. I'm new to this thing, so
I'm sure there was something in the config file that I must have missed,
but I've been over it twice now and I still haven't figured it out.

all kind words of help appreciated.

	dazed and confused.
From: evans@deakin.OZ.AU (Peter Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: tools for monitoring appletalk??
Date: 12 Jan 1993 10:18:58 +1100
Organization: Deakin University, Victoria, Australia
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.deakin.oz.au

Does anyone know of a public utility that will allow me to test the speed
/reliability of the data exchange between two nodes on an Appletalk net.
Also are there tools to plot the trafic on the net.

Thanks for assistance,
Peter Evans (evans@deakin.edu.au)
From: amiller@tasc.com (Andrew Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: AppleTalk Administration Software
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk
Date: 7 Jan 1993 16:38:56 GMT
Organization: TASC
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: b1mac152.read.tasc.com

Greetings,

My company is planning on purchasing some software to allow us to (more
easily) monitor our appletalk network.  

Some of the key features that we need in the software are:
   -ability to EASILY install software to multiple systems via appletalk
   -ability to find out what system ver, etc a system is running
   -some sort of a topology map
   -monitoring printers on appletalk

I am currently demoing Radar 3.0 from Sonic Systems, Inc.  I like the
product a lot, but I wanted to ask around before purchasing it.

Can anyone recommend other software which will provide the features listed
above?

                            Thanks in advance,

                            Andrew

amiller@tasc.com
From: jean@biomac.univ-lyon1.fr (Jean Thioulouse)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: CAP and Solaris 2
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk
Date: 11 Jan 1993 14:14:51 GMT
Organization: Laboratoire de Biometrie - Universite Lyon 1
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: macjt.univ-lyon1.fr

Hi,

    I have seen nothing about the compatibility between CAP 6.0
and Solaris 2. Is it because there is no problem or because nobody
has tried it yet ? I am particularly interested in phase 2 / enet driver
compatibility.

Thanks,
Jean


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From: tgll@datasci.co.uk (Tim Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Stats for NNTP with server addressing
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:55:17 GMT
Reply-To: tgll@datasci.co.uk (Tim Lyons)
Organization: Data Sciences, Farnborough, Hampshire, UK

Summary

Can anyone suggest how to patch nntp so it queries the Appletalk network
for the Mac's Chooser User Name, so that this can be written in the NNTP
logfile. 

Details:

We have a network with many Macs which use what MacTCP calls server
addressing (and some others call dynamic addressing).  In other words,
the Macs do not have a fixed TCP/IP address, but get one dynamically
from some gateway.

The NNTP server runs on a Sun.

When the Macs read news using NNTP, the NNTP log file contains the
TCP/IP address of the user.  However, this is no use at all for me to
try to analyse use of news, because I can't find out who corresponds to
each TCP/IP address, (and the correspondance may change from time to
time).  Most users don't have acounts on the NNTP server, so I can't
user the user facility in the nntp log (since it doesn't appear in most
log entries).

The timeserver for tardis produces a nice log file, just like the one I
want, but I think that it is given the User Name by the Mac cleint end.

I expect I have to modify the NNTP server to get what I want.

Tim Lyons
From: adz@mitre.org (Andrew D. Zenowich)
Subject: Zone name to Net number relationships
Organization: The MITRE Corp.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:07:41 GMT

This may be a FAQ, but I have not seen if answered anywhere.

Can someone give an accurate description of the relationships 
between Network number and Zone name for:
   1) LocalTalk
   2) AppleTalk Phase 1
   3) AppleTalk Phase 2

I thought that I had it down and then I noticed non-consecutive 
multiple network numbers within a single AppleTalk Phase 1 zone.

Either reply to this list or to me. If I get definitive answers I 
will combine and repost.

Thanks in advance,
Drew

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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: webster@bnr.ca (Brent Webster)
Subject: CAP and NIS passwords
Reply-To: webster@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research Ltd
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:18:32 GMT

I have several Mac based (but I'm terrified of UNIX) managers mounting
these CAP created Appleshare volumes.  I got them to setup a UNIX(NIS) userid
and password but now some of these managers want to change their password.
Novel idea but as soon as I mention the words: telnet, login and passwd,
they look at me in disgust.  They ask where is my direct manipulation GUI
with dialog boxes to prompt for this information.

So I'm asking you, are there any little routines out there to get this job done? 
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From: edgar@ms.washington.edu (Edgar Karl Nielsen)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: LW IIg on EtherTalk
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:05:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: shelley.1isnemINNkt5
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: entropy.ms.washington.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Hi,
	I'm trying to change my LaserWriter IIg so it no longer thinks it's a
LaserWriter and instead is a 'LazerWriter' in order to limit access to
the printer. The postscript code I use only works when the printer is
connected via LocalTalk. When it is connected via
EtherTalk, it takes the code with no errors, but it has no effect.
The same code works fine for our HP EtherTalk printer and for a LW IINTX.
The IIg manual doesn't have any information on this behavior - has
anyone else run into this and know of a work-around? 
	I know there is a ROM upgrade one can get to fix various other bugs
with the IIf and IIg, but as far as I know this isn't one of the bugs. I am
pursuing this line with Apple....

All opinions are my own....
---------
Edgar Nielsen
Math Sciences Computing Center					(206) 543-6466
University of Washington,Seattle 98195
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
From: HEEMSTRA@RC.RUG.NL ("Mente H. Heemstra")
Subject: Kerberos outside USA
Reply-To: M.H.Heemstra@RC.RUG.NL
Organization: Internet-USENET Gateway at Stanford University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 10:26:37 GMT

I hope someone can help me on this one.
I fetched the MIT kerberos version 4 patchlevel 10 from aeneas.mit.edu.
I compiled it and installed it on two SUN workstations (one SLC and one
SparcStation 1+).
They seem to be getting along quite well, but here's the catch:
We are testing a PC/TCP package by FTP software, release 2.11, which includes
kerberos version 4 it is said.
However, when I ask my Kerberos server to let me identify myself it sends
back a packet (with my name in it) which as far as I can suspect must hold
my ticket and my password; the Kerberos server doesn't complain, but then I
don't know who should be complaining. My PC continues by asking me for my
password, which gets rejected although it is correct.
Am I having a PC/TCP problem, or am I just having a 'DES outside the USA'
problem.
What we would like to have is some PC/IP package containing applications
like Rlogin or telnet, secured by Kerberos WITH ENCRYPTION !!!
Any encryption will do, as long as all Kerberos's will be able to cooperate
(which, as long as the American government keeps sitting on DES, will be hard
to accomplish I'm afraid).
Anyone have any experience or knowledge about these matters?

Mente H. Heemstra

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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
From: bcn@ISI.EDU (Clifford Neuman)
Subject: Draft paper on use of timestamps
Organization: Internet-USENET Gateway at Stanford University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:50:51 GMT

Stuart Stubblebine and I have made available a draft of a paper we
will be submitting discussing the tradeoffs in the use of timestamps
as nonces in authentication protocols.  We would appreciate any
comments people might have before we submit the final version.
The draft can be retrieved from the machine prospero.isi.edu in the
directory pub/papers/ntn.ps.

	~ Cliff

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
From: rubin@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Aviel Rubin)
Subject: Installing servers and clients in kerberos
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:48:55 GMT

I seem to be having trouble installing and running the sample_client
and sample_server that come with kerberos. I get the following:

barnone.citi.umich.edu# sample_client barnone 343
Setting checksum to 343
sample_client: cannot authenticate to server: Generic kerberos error (kfailure)
barnone.citi.umich.edu#

Does anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong?

e-mail to rubin@quip.eecs.umich.edu
Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
From: hussien@MASI.IBP.FR (Ahmed Hussien)
Subject: removal
Organization: Internet-USENET Gateway at Stanford University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 09:31:53 GMT


	Please remove me from this discussion list!

	Thank you
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
From: rubin@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Aviel Rubin)
Subject: Which directory to run executables out of
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:10:28 GMT

I have just installed kerberos, and I am confused about something.
I have the program kinit in /usr/athena/bin/kinit, and there also
seems to be a copy in /usr/athena/kinit. 

The copy in /usr/athena/kinit does not seem to be accessing the right
database. I always get a password incorrect error when I shouldn't.

When I use /usr/athena/bin/kinit, the wierd thing is that it works for
a while, and then after a while, it says:

[82] barnone:/usr/athena> kinit
Rubin (barnone.citi.umich.edu)
Kerberos Initialization
Kerberos name: dude
kinit: Retry count exceeded (send_to_kdc)


Has anyone experienced this before? 


I guess my questions are: Do I execute the programs from the
[USER] (in my case /usr/athena) directory as described in the
operation notes, or from the /usr/athena/bin directory? What
are the differences, and why are they both there? How come
sometimes kinit works, and then all of a sudden, I get the above
error? Has anyone else encountered these problems?
From: gaf+@pitt.edu (Jerry A Flotta)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
Subject: Are there any MVS implementations?
Date: 6 Jan 93 12:52:38 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: gaf@unixd2.cis.pitt.edu


  Is there a current implementation of Kerberos in any flavor, that will 
support IBM's MVS operating system?  Further, does any Kerberos support
or have "hooks" into any MVS security package like ACF2, RACF or TOPSECRET? 
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
From: khirata@EMULEX.COM (Ken Hirata)
Subject: KDC/Kadmin IP Addr Question
Organization: Internet-USENET Gateway at Stanford University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:57:07 GMT


Is it dangerous to get the IP addresses for the KDC and Kadmin servers
from a nameserver?  Since no secrets are sent in the clear over the
network, I would think that even if somebody managed to redirect your
ticket requests, the information they get would be just as useful as
if they just passively monitored the net.  Am I wrong?  Is the answer
the same for both kerberized clients and servers?  Thanks.

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