HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: pt@geovision.gvc.com (Paul Tomblin)
Subject: Computer disguises (was Re: Jackpotting Vending Machines for Candy)
Reply-To: pt@geovision.gvc.com
Organization: Not officially GeoVision Systems Inc., Ottawa, Ontario
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:18:21 GMT

mdw@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh) writes:

>I also stole one of the plastic price labels from the inside of the machine
>for $.55, and taped it to my bitty box at home (looks like a miniature
>Coke machine, anyway...)

I've also disguised my computers.  My Tandy 1200HD at home has an authentic
"Watstar PC Network/Faculty of Engineering/University of Waterloo" sticker
on it - some clueless people has asked me how I get connected to that
network while living in western Quebec.  My VT220 has an "HP Apollo Series
700" sticker.  I'm looking for something appropriate for my Sparcstation at
work.  Perhaps an IBM-PC/RT label or something.

I remember when some product - I can't remember whether it was a Cobol
compiler or a PC version of SPF (sorry - ISPF now-a-days) - came with a
little sticker to replace the "IBM PC" sticker with one that said "IBM 370".


-- 
Paul Tomblin, pt@geovision.gvc.com
(This is not an official opinion of GeoVision Systems Inc.)
A man is rich in proportion to the number of things he can afford to let alone
  -- Henry David Thoreau.
From: nickel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Juergen Nickelsen)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Computer Superstition
Date: 19 Nov 92 10:38:01 GMT
	<BxxKM0.H4r@unx.sas.com>
Reply-To: nickel@cs.tu-berlin.de
Organization: STONE Project, Technical University of Berlin, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: desaster.cs.tu-berlin.de
In-reply-to: sasjaa@morticia.unx.sas.com's message of Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:20:24 GMT

In article <BxxKM0.H4r@unx.sas.com> sasjaa@morticia.unx.sas.com (James
Adams) writes:

> If a program quits working, first try re-compiling it. It probably just
> needs to be refreshed...

Yeah, software rots. Recompiling often helps -- but not always,
sometimes you actually have to change the source to make it work
again.

--
Juergen Nickelsen
From: comrade@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Peter Cooper)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: sync; sync; sync; was Re: Computer Superstition
Date: 24 Nov 1992 09:20:47 +0800
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: uniwa.uwa.edu.au

Wasn't there a really cool rhyme based on the Lord of the Rings "One
Ring, in the Darkness, to bind them"?

Could someone repost it?

Peter
-- 
email:  comrade@uniwa.uwa.edu.au   snail:  Peter Cooper
fax:    +61 9 380 1041                     Guild of Undergraduates
phone:  +61 9 380 3929                     University of Western Australia
"It was the banana that did it!" - Julia Marley
From: chapman@cs.cornell.edu (Richard Chapman)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Ackermann's function
Keywords: Ackermann's function, recursion, primitive-recursive, FORTRAN, COBOL
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:37:34 GMT
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853

ken@us.oracle.com (Ken C. Stewart) writes:

>Can anyone remind me (ahem) of the definition of Ackermann's function (a pair
>of mutually-recursive functions I think?)?  

The Ackermann function: 

	f(0,y)  = y + 1
	f(x+1,0) = f(x,1)
	f(x+1,y+1) = f(x,f(x+1,y))

>I saw it on the 'net years ago
>that it was one of the simpler examples of a recursive function that was not
>"primitive recursive", meaning, I think, that it could not be evaluated
>by iterative means, as the terminating condition for the loop to evaluate it
>depended on evaluating Ackermann's function ... I also seem to remember that
>since it required the programming language it was expressed in to support
>recursion, and since COBOL and FORTRAN (or at least some standard flavour
>thereof) don't, that COBOL and FORTRAN are not general purpose programming
>languages, whereas, say, vi macros are (see articles passim concerning
>Universal Turing Machine simulation using vi macros).

The Ackermann function is total recursive but not primitive recursive. The
primitive recursive functions are the smallest class of functions
containing the constant function f(x) = 0, the successor function f(x)
= x+1, projection functions for all arities to select each argument
(e.g.  a function of 4 arguments that returns its second argument),
and closed under the operations of substitution and recursion.

The proof that Ackermann is not p.r. is rather long, and is based on
showing that it grows faster than any p.r.  function.

If you augment the class of p.r. fun's by making it closed under the
operation of unbounded minimization (given a function, return the
least argument value for which that function returns zero) you get the
class of partial recursive functions, which is the same as the class
of Turing computable functions.

While recursion is not allowed in FORTRAN, you can implement it
yourself in a FORTRAN program by explicitly implementing a stack and
handling it all yourself. Now, whether or not FORTRAN has recursion
has little to do with the expressive power of the language; since
on-line storage and memory are finite, the most you can implement in
any language on any computer is a function that could be implemented by
a finite-state automaton (which is a far smaller class than the Turing
computable functions). However, barring the finite memory limit. If
you assume you have infinite memory size, and each location can hold
an arbitrarily large integer, all you need to implement all the
computable functions are: load a memory location with zero, increment
contents of a memory location, conditional jump, and transfer contents of one
memory location to another. All these are operations which FORTRAN and
COBOL are both capable of.
From: doctor@k9.UUCP (Paul Broe)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Confessions of a Commodore Junkie (Was: Re: SMART DRUGS2
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:33:23 GMT
Organization: Mostly Harmless...
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16g (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <17687@mindlink.bc.ca> Jeremy_Reimer@mindlink.bc.ca (Jeremy Reimer) writes:
> >
> > HI !  CAN I BUY YOU"RE C128 FROM U!!!
> > KIB0 WON"T LET ME BORROW HIS ! !!!!!1
> >
> > DO YOU HAVE SUPER PITFALL OR GALAGA 4
> > IT! !! I"LL TRADE YOU FOR MRS PAC MAN
> > IT SUCKS!!! WHAT WAREZ DO YOU HAVE?!
> >
> > BIFF
> > --
> >
> > BBBBBBB   IIIIIII  FFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF
> > B      B     I     F        F
> > B      B     I     F        F
> > BBBBBBB      I     FFFFFF   FFFFFFF
> > B      B     I     F        F
> > B      B     I     F        F
> > BBBBBBB   IIIIIII  F        F
> 
> 
> Is this the real BIFF, or just some nasty cheap BIFF substitute?
> 

A substitute. Notice the use of O's (capital o) instead of 0 (zero).

-- 
----
Paul Broe
Internet: broe@plains.nodak.edu
UUCP: uunet!plains!prototype!k9!doctor (My Amiga 2500/20)    AmigaUUCP 1.16D
BIX: pbroe Compu$erve: too expensive.                        AmigaOS 2.05
Xref: sparky alt.folklore.computers:16421 alt.sys.pdp8:90
From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,alt.sys.pdp8
Subject: Re: Any need for a Ti-994a?
Date: 19 Nov 92 05:27:32 GMT
Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens

My daughters still use our TI-99/4A daily to play games and run some
elementary school math tutorials.

It was my first personal computer and was largely responsible for a big
change of career direction on my part.  Instead of being a linguist who
dabbles in computers, I became a computer specialist for the humanities,
and then a computational linguist.

-- 
:-  Michael A. Covington     internet mcovingt@uga.cc.uga.edu 
:-  Artificial Intelligence Programs       phone 706 542-0358
:-  The University of Georgia                fax 706 542-0349
:-  Athens, Georgia 30602-7415 U.S.A.     amateur radio N4TMI
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: alderson@elaine46.Stanford.EDU (Rich Alderson)
Subject: Re: PDP ftp archive
Originator: alderson@leland.Stanford.EDU
Reply-To: alderson@elaine46.Stanford.EDU (Rich Alderson)
Organization: Stanford University Academic Information Resources
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 23:54:04 GMT

In article <13632@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, Toby Russell <tar90@ecs writes:
>I've just opened an ftp archive for PDP software so that all us PDP collectors
>can swap software with one another. There currently isn't a huge amount of
>stuff ( kermit, and a few games ), so it's up to you lot to upload anything
>you feel might be of use.
>
>If you have any large uploads ( > 1mb ) please mail me before you upload as
>disk space is very tight !
>
>The address is
>		bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk    or
>		152.78.64.201
>
>Directory /pub/pdp
>
>Please feel free to mail me with any comments or suggestions.

One feels compelled to ask, "PDP-*WHAT*????"

;->
-- 
Rich Alderson   'I wish life was not so short,' he thought.  'Languages take
                such a time, and so do all the things one wants to know about.'
                                                        --J. R. R. Tolkien,
alderson@leland.stanford.edu                              _The Lost Road_
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: dagbrown@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Computer Superstition
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:53:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.174914.28632@osf.org> dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks) writes:
>In article <10292323.7317.11306@kcbbs.gen.nz>, Murray_Moffatt@kcbbs.gen.nz (Murray Moffatt) writes:
>|> We've all heard of common superstitions such as not walking under ladders 
>|> and throwing salt over your left shoulder if you spill some, but are 
>|> there any superstitions to do with computers?
>
>I may be the only one to do this, but I sometimes bang on the Return key a
>few times when I want something to hurry up (that is if the Return will be
>harmless when eventually read).  This goes back to the days of using an OS
>(Primos?) that gives you scheduling preference when it sees a CR.

I dunno about that <RETURN> to speed up the system--one of our sysadmins
where I work was reported to have hit <RETURN> no fewer than 50 times
to speed up the login procedure (VMS)--but then again we have a fairly
involved login for all users here....but it doesn't run any faster with
a stream of CR's coming in.....

-- 
Dave Brown
dagbrown@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca
Phone: (519) 438-0530
"What God want, God gets.  God help us all."  --Roger Waters
From: IEGS@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA (IEGS)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: ASSEMBLY LANGUAGE IBM
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:20:33 GMT
Organization: McGill University

HOW COULD YOU SOLVE THIS:
DETERMINE HOW MANY MICRO-INSTRUCTIONS ARE REQUIRE TO PERFORM
THE ASSEMBLY INSTRUCTIONS WITH OPERATION CODES FROM 0 TO 4.
  WRITE A (MAC-1) ASSEMBLY IBM PROGRAM TO COMPUTE X = MIN(A,B)
{IF (A<B) X=A ELSE X=B}
PLEASE REPLY TO MC.BER
From: mcastro@rediris.es
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: computers & garbage
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:29:54 +0100
Organization: REDIRIS, Red Nacional de I+D


Walking -to buy a new modem >9600, btw- a dificult to forget color 
catched my eye, and there it was, a good-looking C64 in a waste basket!.
Even the transformator was there!. Being an old friend, the least I 
could do was to take it with me. I don't know if it works, but at least 
the red led lights when I connect it. Old times!.
This remember me the old old vax here, serving as an ashtray in one of 
the corridors. (It serves it right!). Someday someone will find a vax
in the garbage!.

						man
man@taf.fundesco.es
mcastro@iris-dcp.es
From: okes@essex.ac.uk (Simon Oke)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Sync Three Times...
Date: 20 Nov 92 13:46:22 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Essex, UK.
In-reply-to: peter@NeoSoft.com's message of 19 Nov 92 12:14:18 GMT

In article <Bxypzx.L4p@NeoSoft.com> peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
| I feel a song cue coming on...
|
|	 "Sync Three Times on the console if you waa-aaa-aant me...."
|
| Cut, it's a wrap.

Interesting that you _can_ sync 3 times. On the sparcstations we have here,
if you L1-A them and sync, it just does a single sync and reboots
automatically, with never a hitch.

--
Simon Oke, 3rd year Computer Science
undergraduate at the University of Essex, UK.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks)
Subject: Re: Computer Superstition
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:49:14 GMT

In article <10292323.7317.11306@kcbbs.gen.nz>, Murray_Moffatt@kcbbs.gen.nz (Murray Moffatt) writes:
|> We've all heard of common superstitions such as not walking under ladders 
|> and throwing salt over your left shoulder if you spill some, but are 
|> there any superstitions to do with computers?

I may be the only one to do this, but I sometimes bang on the Return key a
few times when I want something to hurry up (that is if the Return will be
harmless when eventually read).  This goes back to the days of using an OS
(Primos?) that gives you scheduling preference when it sees a CR.
-- 
David Brooks					dbrooks@osf.org
Open Software Foundation			uunet!osf.org!dbrooks
Allberall und ewig blauen licht die Fernen!  Ewig... ewig... earwig... O!
From: pt@geovision.gvc.com (Paul Tomblin)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: ASSEMBLY LANGUAGE IBM
Date: 17 Nov 92 14:21:23 GMT
Reply-To: pt@geovision.gvc.com
Organization: Not officially GeoVision Systems Inc., Ottawa, Ontario

IEGS@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA (IEGS) writes:

>HOW COULD YOU SOLVE THIS:
>DETERMINE HOW MANY MICRO-INSTRUCTIONS ARE REQUIRE TO PERFORM
>THE ASSEMBLY INSTRUCTIONS WITH OPERATION CODES FROM 0 TO 4.
>  WRITE A (MAC-1) ASSEMBLY IBM PROGRAM TO COMPUTE X = MIN(A,B)
>{IF (A<B) X=A ELSE X=B}
>PLEASE REPLY TO MC.BER

Please stop trying to get the net to do your homework for you.

If you don't know how to do your assignment, talk to your TA - you might
actually learn something other than how to cheat.

-- 
Paul Tomblin, pt@geovision.gvc.com
(This is not an official opinion of GeoVision Systems Inc.)
"Usenet is like Tetris for people who still remember how to read"
 -- Joshua Heller (heller2@husc.harvard.edu) on rec.humor.funny
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
Subject: Re: base -2 arithmetic (was: Re: Trinary)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:23:02 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.141833.8753@geovision.gvc.com> pt@geovision.gvc.com writes:
>exspes@gdr.bath.ac.uk (P E Smee) writes:
>>In the referenced article, hees@cubic.com (Phil Hees) writes:
>>>pete@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
>>>>In article <3ug2TB6w165w@mertwig.UUCP> xyzzy@mertwig.UUCP (Daniel
>>>>Drucker) writes:
>>>>[signature claiming he's a genius]
>>>[Comment that he's not a genius, and he's probably offending those who are]
>
>>Close.  I'd claim that REAL (TM) geniuses *knew* COBOL, realised why
>>they wished they didn't, and promptly forgot it, retaining only the  
>>memory that they weren't supposed to learn it again.
>
>Actually, I'd claim a real genius is someone who _doesn't_ post a claim that
>a base `n' number system means that it uses the digits `0' through `n-1',
>and that therefore base `-2' is impossible, as our budding boy genius did a
>week or so ago.

As long as you have some number of digits to work with, all you need is
a consistant rule set I should imagine. Long ago I came up with the
idea of a base-1 computer (as a project for my write-only memory, perfect
for secure military applications :^).

Yeah, it's all been done before, but some wheels are so much fun to
re-invent.

 
>I've made a few factual errors on the net myself, but at least I never did
>them in a post with a sig claiming that I was a genius!
>
>-- 
>Paul Tomblin, pt@geovision.gvc.com
>(This is not an official opinion of GeoVision Systems Inc.)
>A man is rich in proportion to the number of things he can afford to let alone
>  -- Henry David Thoreau.


Rich

payner@netcom.com
From: xyzzy@mertwig.UUCP (Daniel Drucker)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: linux
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 17:34:02 EST
Organization: Odd Parity Hacker's Group

Is linux any good?

--  "Xyzzy T. Plugh"                               mertwig!xyzzy@jaflrn.uucp
                     Amateur radio callsign pending
        Daniel Max P. Drucker, the 14 year old networks wizard.

"Difficulty! It's the single simplest machine in the entire Universe!" -HHGTTG
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: pt@geovision.gvc.com (Paul Tomblin)
Subject: Re: ASSEMBLY LANGUAGE IBM
Reply-To: pt@geovision.gvc.com
Organization: Not officially GeoVision Systems Inc., Ottawa, Ontario
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:04:32 GMT

azog@spatula.rent.com (Billy D'Augustine) writes:

>In article <1992Nov18.134855.28580@geovision.gvc.com> pt@geovision.gvc.com writes:
>[ stuff about IBM S/370 ]
>>From this I infer that you consider it a ``bad thing'' that an IBM mainframe
>>(or PC) user can upgrade his hardware without buying new versions of commercial
>>software?

>You can apply the same arguement to the whole world, and where would we
>be? With 100MHz Intel 80586s, 64mb of RAM, all running MS-DOS 3.3. 

You misread me.  I don't think progress is a bad thing.  I just think that
there is a time and a place for backward compatibility, and a time and a
place for progress.  If I have something that is on the bleeding edge of
technology, like a GIS, then by all means I'm gonna want it on the latest,
hottest Unix box, and I'm going to be buying upgraded software far more
frequently than hardware.

If, on the other hand, I'm doing something boring, predictable and stable
like running SAS or accounting software, or filling in blanks on a form, then
all I want is compute cycles, and I don't want to have to buy the same damn
package over again when I want some more compute cycles.

I suppose you think I'm some horrible technophobe because I use a vt220
terminal to dial into work instead of using the latest, hottest PC with the
latest terminal emulator, or because the computer my kids play with is an XT
running DOS, rather than a Mips box running Windows NT.

-- 
Paul Tomblin, pt@geovision.gvc.com
(This is not an official opinion of GeoVision Systems Inc.)
I've always wanted to know what's around the next bend
   - Herman Smith (Jackrabbit) Johansen. 1875-1983
From: okes@essex.ac.uk (Simon Oke)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: command abbreviation
Date: 16 Nov 92 12:58:18 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Essex, UK.
In-reply-to: hees@cubic.com's message of 13 Nov 92 19:02:08 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.190208.17876@cubic.com> hees@cubic.com (Phil Hees) writes:
| In addition, the standard C library routines use the same ordering.
| For example:
|
|       strcpy(dest, source);
|
Blurgh! This is one of the things about the libraries that I *HATE*.
I find it much easier to remember "copy src (to) dest" than the other way.
Makes programming a 68000 fun.

| I always use the (dest [,dest], src [,src]) ordering for my own function
| calls, and really get locked into this mindset, to the point that I often
| find myself checking the man page to reassure myself that I am using the
| correct order for the cp (Unix) or copy (VMS, DOS) commands.
|
You are seriously deranged!

--
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like it and keep a copy for your own use, you owe me $20. Please pass it on
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.sys.cbm,soc.culture.nordic,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.french
From: dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks)
Subject: Re: 8-bit news (was Re: Commodore keyboard layout.)
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:40:05 GMT

tt@tarzan.jyu.fi (Tapani Tarvainen) writes:
|> I don't know how much this has been discussed in the other groups
|> this has been cross-posted to, but we experimented with it in
|> soc.culture.nordic some time ago (was it last spring?) and
|> discovered that news goes 8-bit-clean to more or less every
|> country...

I remembered the particular issue with Nordic countries after I posted
the original of this thread.  There is a *large* installed base of
character generators and keyboards that use the 7-bit ISO-646 variants,
where [\]{|} are used for marked vowels (did any Norwegians read that as
a prolonged wail?).  If that's so, is there any concerted attempt to Do
Something about it?  I was part of several efforts to solve this problem
at Prime, as part of the much bigger problem of curing the high bit
disease.  We failed and, in the case of converting local-646 to 8859,
even failed to show that it was necessary to solve the problem.

|> Anyway, here's a sample of umlauts &c: .

From which I, at least, can tell that mcsun, uunet, cs.utexas.edu,
sdd.hp.com (all major gateways) and think.com (important to us!) are clean.
-- 
David Brooks					dbrooks@osf.org
Open Software Foundation			uunet!osf.org!dbrooks
Allberall und ewig blauen licht die Fernen!  Ewig... ewig... ewig...
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: 19 inch racks (Re: WANTED: PDP-10 or 11)
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 09:50:29 GMT

Speaking of 19 inch racks... anyone know where I can get one cheaply? I have
a 19 inch rack mount expansion unit that I'd like to use, but not enough table
top space for it, and it's top-access. It's a four-bay unit from Sigma, but
unfortunately it's top-access not front-access like the Sigma two-bay units.
-- 
Peter da Silva.  <peter@sugar.neosoft.com>.
 `-_-'   Oletko halannut suttasi tnn?
  'U`    
Tarjoilija, tm ateria el viel.
From: lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: ASSEMBLY LANGUAGE IBM
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:31:50 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

In article <16NOV92.12143038.0072@VM1.MCGILL.CA> IEGS@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA (IEGS) writes:
>COULD SOMEONE HELP ME TO SOLVE THIS:
>WRITE AN (MAC-1) ASSEMBLY IBM PROGRAM TO COMPUTE X= MIN(A<B){ IF (A<B)
>X=A ELSE X=B}
>PLEASE REPLY TO MC.BER

  Stuck on your homework assigment?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks)
Subject: Re: Re:help friendly alien...
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:17:39 GMT

pvs9@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (Praktikum Verteilte Systeme) writes:
|> }>i am glorp of planet x. my starship has crashed landed on earth.
|> }>since there are so many smart earthings here, perhaps one of you
|> }>can fix a fleeblebrox generator (model z9999-q) that is on the fritz.
|> }>any help will be appreciated.
|> 
|>           ->Xandribuuu = (Rtoff*)malloc(sizeof(h_andrx));

If I were you (which I'm not, having an invalid arm count), I wouldn't
trust flight-critical software that doesn't test the return value from
malloc.  Just a minute...

|>           jogg = (GnoBr (xuuuuuuuu, U_XXilef (_Xanshbr_tvn))?xuuuuuuuu->Zu:0);
|>           xuuuuuuuu->_nHung.MxT->rt->Z_7->__0b->XanBr_->iu[0] = (jogg%37);
|>           xuuuuuuuu->Shra = Ndelsef (v_78_K);
|>           return xuuuuuuuu;

Unles you can prove it is checked after returning from all calls to this
procedure.
-- 
David Brooks					dbrooks@osf.org
Open Software Foundation			uunet!osf.org!dbrooks
Allberall und ewig blauen licht die Fernen!  Ewig... ewig... earwig... O!