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From: rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu (Rao V. Akella)
Subject: Davis Cup: India vs. Britain
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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:10:00 GMT

India vs. Britain (in New Delhi, India):
	Leander Paes, India, def. Jeremy Bates, Britain:
		6-2, 6-7 (3-7), 7-5, 6-1
	Ramesh Krishnan, India, def. Mark Petchey, Britain:
		6-3, 3-6, 6-3, 6-7 (2-7), 6-1
	Ramesh Krishnan and Leander Paes, India, def.
	Mark Petchey and Neil Broad, Britain:
		6-4, 3-6, 6-4, 6-1
	Chris Wilkinson, Britain, def. Gaurav Natekar, India:
		6-3, 6-1
	Leander Paes, India, def. Mark Petchey, Britain:
		6-2, 6-4

India def. Britain 4-1

-- Rao Akella    <rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu, rao%moose@umnacvx.bitnet>
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From: clc5q@hemlock.cs.Virginia.EDU (Clark L. Coleman)
Subject: Re: ATP Rankings (was: Tournament Results)
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:42:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct06.190651.9340@eng.umd.edu> clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin) writes:
>
>   Rankings are one of the things I don't really understand that well.
>I had thought that there was a best of 14 ranking system.  So,
>therefore, if you look back over 12 months, even if tournaments did
>drop off, you would still have 14 there, and could divide the result
>by 14.  So, even though some points drop off, you wouldn't count
>that tournament toward the average.  

The rankings are based on 52 weeks of results.  Edberg won the Australian
Indoor last year (53 weeks ago, because they moved the tournament date back
this year --- the problem discussed earlier.)  So, a week ago, his title
in Sydney last year was his 3rd or 4th best result in the last 52 weeks.
Now, it drops off (being 53 weeks ago) before he can defend it.  So, his
15th best result a week ago is now his 14th best result, and is no doubt
worth a lot fewer ranking points than winning the Australian Indoor. So
his ranking goes down.

You don't divide by 14, you just add up points, although the rankings would
be in the same order even if you did.

This week, Edberg's title from the Seiko Super Tennis (Tokyo-indoor) will drop
off the computer.  If he wins the Australian Indoor, that will just about leave
him with the same points. But, next week, nothing drops off the computer --
he took a week off after Tokyo a year ago --- and his Seiko Super Tennis points
will be added in if they are enough to be in the top 14 results for Edberg.
So it evens back out.  Last week, he lost points while not playing. In 2 weeks,
the 1992 Seiko points are a freebie.

Notice that Ivanisevic lost some good points from last year's Sydney indoor
and dropped a few places (from #5 to #8) this week, also.



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From: shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung)
Subject: Offensive Articles in the Group (was: Steffi Graf ...)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 18:58:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.123014.10649@wam.umd.edu> haas@wam.umd.edu (The Future Mr. Graf) writes:
>In article <1992Sep25.203612.3241@onetouch.COM> phil@onetouch.COM (Philip D. Turner) writes:

>>It's sad to see someone who has made positive contributions to a
>>newsgroup drop it because of all the idiots out there that don't
>>want to talk about the tennis the sport but instead want to speculate
>>about the personalities of tennis.

>I'm happy with 
>my strings, so should I unsubscribe to this group because I'm sick and
>tired of hearing about whether VS Gut is better than Prince Topspin?

I think there is a major difference between articles on topics
that one is not interested in and articles that are sexually
explicit and therefore offensive to some, women in particular.

Recently, there have been quite a few articles on women players.
They started with their height and weight, then their appearance,
then it really started getting worse and worse, dealing with topics
such as "vital statistics" and others that I won't even mention.
Some of these topics may be OK during a conversation in a bar
in the evening, but this group is rec.sport.tennis and a public
forum with readers of both genders and different backgrounds.
There are actually news groups for those topics, but certainly
not here.

Rec.sport.tennis is still an unmoderated group and we are basically
free to post whatever we want. Again, for those of us who are
fortunate enough to have been born with a brain, use it when posting
articles. Advoid sexually explicit remarks and totally unsubstantiated
attacks/flames on players and fellow netters.
-- 
-- Shun Cheung,    electronic: shun.cheung@att.com    voice: (908) 615-5135
     HR 1A-304, AT&T Bell Labs, 480 Red Hill Road, Middletown, NJ, 07748 USA
From: MTED356@UTXVM.CC.UTEXAS.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Who won between Martina vs Jimmy ??
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:47:57 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin

Hi guys,
 
I missed all reports on that match. Could anyone please post the results ? I
would be grateful if you could add a few spices.
 
Thanks
 
Bordy
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From: shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung)
Subject: Re: Davis Cup Final USA - Switzerland
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:15:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.124941.19213@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> mzedtwit@iiic.ethz.ch (Maximilian Joachim Paul Zedtwitz) writes:

[ Head-to-head statistics between Swiss and US players deleted. ]

>Gorman would be crazy to choose a fast surface for the final.
>Courier/Sampras/McEnroe have just won the semi's against Sweden
>on clay, so I think Gorman will choose this surface.
>On the other hand, Rosset beat Courier on clay, and Hlasek/Rosset
>won the French Open on clay this year.

Tom Gorman had already chosen Fort Worth, Texas, to be the site
for the Davis Cup final a week BEFORE the semi (a little too confident
IMO); that is, before he knew for sure who the other team was.
I think that will be on hard courts. Anyone knows for sure?

I agree that clay seems to be the logical choice. But then,
Agassi won Wimbledon and Sampras was a semi-finalist; I guess
you can argue it any way you want.
-- 
-- Shun Cheung,    electronic: shun.cheung@att.com    voice: (908) 615-5135
     HR 1A-304, AT&T Bell Labs, 480 Red Hill Road, Middletown, NJ, 07748 USA
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From: vinlai@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (vincent.lai)
Subject: Re: sneakers for tennis
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:14:07 GMT

From article <1992Sep28.155921.18839@midway.uchicago.edu>, by j-nolan@uchicago.edu (John Nolan):
> In article <1992Sep28.093114.4832@hplb.hpl.hp.com>, rik@hplb.hpl.hp.com
> (Richard Beckett)
> 
> 
>>In article <Bv6AvD.8Iz@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, ac@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
>>(ac) writes:
>>|> Hi, folks:
>>|> 
>>|> I'm going to buy a pair of sneakers for playing tennis. My problem is: 
>>|> I play on hard courts for twice a week and my shoes are worn out quite
>>|> soon, especially at the area under the big toes. Could someone 
>>|> recommend me a model/brand which is more durable. I prefer high-top.
>>|> Thanks!!
>>|> 
>>|> Alex Chou
>>|> EE, Purdue Univ.
>>
>>	Personally, I don't think that you can beat Wilson Pro-Staff tennis
>>	shoes for performance. They're also cheaper than these flash looking
>>	Nikes and other stuff.
> 
> Do they last longer?  I'm not the original author, but I have the same 
> problem.  I wear New Balance 500's and they die every two or three months.
> Is this planned obsolesence?
> 
> Just wondering,
> john 
> 
> University of Chicago
> 
The pair I have now I bought two months ago, and they are holding up
fine.  They were recommended strongly by my teaching pro.  He felt that
way so much he said he would get me pair at cost.  I took him up on his
offer, and so far he's right in terms of wear.  They seem to last.  I
have a problem with quite a bit of room in the toe box, almost as if my
shoes were a half size too big.  Another pair of socks seems to
alleviate the problem, though.

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From: j-nolan@uchicago.edu (John Nolan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: sneakers for tennis
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:59:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: midway.1992Sep28.155921.18839
Organization: University of Chicago

In article <1992Sep28.093114.4832@hplb.hpl.hp.com>, rik@hplb.hpl.hp.com
(Richard Beckett)


>In article <Bv6AvD.8Iz@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, ac@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
>(ac) writes:
>|> Hi, folks:
>|> 
>|> I'm going to buy a pair of sneakers for playing tennis. My problem is: 
>|> I play on hard courts for twice a week and my shoes are worn out quite
>|> soon, especially at the area under the big toes. Could someone 
>|> recommend me a model/brand which is more durable. I prefer high-top.
>|> Thanks!!
>|> 
>|> Alex Chou
>|> EE, Purdue Univ.
>
>	Personally, I don't think that you can beat Wilson Pro-Staff tennis
>	shoes for performance. They're also cheaper than these flash looking
>	Nikes and other stuff.

Do they last longer?  I'm not the original author, but I have the same 
problem.  I wear New Balance 500's and they die every two or three months.
Is this planned obsolesence?

Just wondering,
john 

University of Chicago
From: mliu@ucsb.edu (Liu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: The Book "Tough Draw"
Date: 4 Oct 92 16:10:00 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara


A while back someone posted a note to ask if anyone has read the new
book "Tough Draw" by Eliot Berry.  I have since, so here's my opinion.

The book is somewhat in the vein of John Feinstein's "Hardcount": both
are about the Pro Tennis tour, and both wrote about the same bunch of
top name players.  I am sure the publication of the book is helped by
the popularity of "Hard Count," which has become a best seller.

The writer of this book, Eliot Berry, is himself a player, and seems
to have more empathy with the tennis pros that he wrote about.  Feinstien
was more sacrastic by far and seemed more interested in the moneymaking
process of the ATP tour.  Berry also has an academic background and 
is more literate: parts of the narration read more like a novel than
a documentary.  

If you are interested in the personalities of the players, this one
is more interesting.  For example, Feinstein characterized Edberg
as very blonde and very bland, case closed; Berry explores in greater
depth, going so far as travelling to Edberg's hometown to meet his family 
and taking time to point out the enigma of the opposite personna of
Edberg on and off court.

I enjoyed reading about some of the matches described.  Berry went into
considerably more details of the games than Feinstein.    

In hardcopy, the book is a bit expensive ($25).  But there is so 
little of this kind of writing around that I bought it out of appreciation,
and will have to skip breakfasts for many days to pay for it.  No regrets,
though.

M. Liu
From: gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: WTA Women's Ranking: September 27
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:26:43 GMT

The WTA top 50 ranked singles players
      (Through September 27th):
 
 1. Monica Seles, Yugoslavia, 277.5235
 2. Steffi Graf, Germany, 242.6071
 3. Gabriela Sabatini, Argentina, 189.8235
 4. Martina Navratilova, United States, 172.3077
 5. Arantxa Sanchez, Spain, 169.0275
 6. Jennifer Capriati, United States, 110.6528
 7. Mary Joe Fernandez, United States, 108.6450
 8. Conchita Martinez, Spain, 90.6020
 9. Anke Huber, Germany, 83.0833
10. Manuela Maleeva, Switzerland, 81.9732

11. Jana Novotna, Czechoslovakia, 70.4283
12. Nathalie Tauziat, France, 68.2003
13. Helena Sukova, Czechoslovakia, 63.4147
14. Zina Garrison, United States, 61.2106
15. Katerina Maleeva, Bulgaria, 59.6173
16. Mary Pierce, France, 59.2500
17. Amanda Coetzer, South Africa, 55.4000
18. Sabine Appelmans, Belgium, 54.6278
19. Lori McNeil, United States, 53.5510
20. Amy Frazier, United States, 51.0650
 
21. Magdalena Maleeva, Bulgaria, 50.9357
22. Kimiko Date, Japan, 49.5357
23. Leila Meskhi, Georgia, 48.1643
24. Julie Halard, France, 47.7905
25. Judith Wiesner, Austria, 45.8889
26. Natalia Zvereva, Belarus, 41.4167
27. Naoko Sawamatsu, Japan, 41.3333
28. Barbara Rittner, Germany, 39.9375
29. Radka Zrubakova, Czechoslovakia, 38.5619
30. Patricia Hy, Canada, 36.3571

31. Brenda Schultz, Netherlands, 36.3333
32. Sabine Hack, Germany, 33.5882
33. Pam Shriver, United States, 31.7353
34. Sandra Cecchini, Italy, 31.0000
35. Laura Gildemeister, Peru, 31.0000
36. Gigi Fernandez, United States, 30.4105
37. Natalia Medvedeva, Ukraine, 30.1389
38. Emanuela Zardo, Switzerland, 28.9286
39. Andrea Strnadova, Czechoslovakia, 28.7111
40. Manon Bollegraf, Netherlands, 27.4167

41. Karina Habsudova, Czechoslovakia, 26.8188
42. Ann Grossman, United States, 26.7824
43. Nicole Provis, Australia, 26.2900
44. Robin White, United States, 24.1071
45. Linda Harvey-Wild, United States, 23.6591
46. Ros Fairbank, United States, 23.6389
47. Barbara Paulus, Austria, 23.3167
48. Yayuk Basuki, Indonesia, 22.8500
49. Wiltrud Probst, Germany, 22.3800
50. Rachel McQuillan, Australia, 21.9875

==================
WTA RANKING METHOD
==================

Players are awarded round points for each round they win plus 
bonus points for each win over a player ranked in the Virginia Slims
Top 500. Total points (round + bonus) are divided by the number of
tournaments played (minimum divisor of 12) to arrive at an average.
Points stay valid for 52 weeks from the date of the tournament.
Players must have at least 3 tournament appearances to appear in the
rankings.

GeSS
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From: cf947@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Chun-Hung Wan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Tennis Raquet reccomendations
Date: 28 Sep 1992 02:59:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cf947@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Chun-Hung Wan)
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I'm going to buy a new tennis raquet soon and I'm thinking of either the
Prince Graphite of the Wilson ProStaff (Edberg's)  Does anyone use either
of these, and if so so what are your opinions of them?  I used to use the
ThunderStick but after a while I hated it.  My shots flew everywhere, and
I lost control.  So I've decided to go for something more less extreme like
the Graphite or Prostaff.  How about the Prince Synergies?  
Your opinions would be much appreciated, thanks.
-- 
A motion picture major at the Brooks Institute of Photography, CA
Santa Barbara and a foreign student from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

"The mind is the forerunner of all states."
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
From: mcortes@shearson.com (Mathew Cortes)
Subject: need advise on raquet grip
Reply-To: mcortes@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:27:56 GMT



I am new to tennis and am interested in buying a raquet. Can anyone please let me 
know how to determine the correct size grip.

					Thanks,
					Matt Cortes
From: clc5q@hemlock.cs.Virginia.EDU (Clark L. Coleman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Tournament Results (was: did Graf win in Zurich?)
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:38:35 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department

In article <1992Oct5.121641.13970@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung) writes:
>Swiss Indoors:  Becker d. Korda  3-6, 6-3, 6-2, 6-4
>
>This is Becker's third title this year. Becker seems to be motivated
>to compete again since the latter part of the summer, which is a good
>sign. But Becker fans don't needs to get overly excited; Boris has yet
>to win a major title (e.g. Championship series or Grand Slam) this year.


Actually, Becker won the Donnay Indoor Championships in Brussels on February
16, and either the Eurocard Classic in Stuttgart on Feb. 23 or the ABN/AMRO
Wereld Tennis Tournament in Rotterdam on March 1.  The Donnay and Eurocard
are Championship Series events; the ABN/AMRO and Swiss Indoors are World
Series.

You were probably thinking about the distinction between Single Week and 
Double-Up Week Championship Series events. If only one Championship Series
event is held in a week, that is a Single Week Championship Series event
(Indian Wells, Key Biscayne, Monte Carlo, Hamburg, Rome, Toronto/Montreal,
Cincinnati, Sydney-indoor, Tokyo-indoor, Stockholm, Paris, ATP Championships).
If there are two held that week, they are called Double-Up Week events,
like when the Eurocard and U.S. Pro Indoor in Philadelphia are held in the
same week.  It is harder to win when the top players are not split between
two different tournaments like that. The ranking points are strictly
based on prize money, and the ATP schedules the higher prize money events
as Single Week so they won't have big competition.

The Australian Indoor this week, the Seiko Super Tennis (Tokyo-indoor) next
week, and the Stockholm and Paris Opens in a few weeks, are the last 4 Single
Week events.  A lot of changes in the rankings are coming up soon.
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From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Subject: Re: Pros Stringing at Wimbledon
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 23:55:18 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Originator: clin@periodic.eng.umd.edu


In article <1992Sep29.174504.10856@bnr.co.uk>, pmv@bnr.co.uk (Paul M. Venkatesh) writes:
>I seem to remember a discussion a while ago on string tensions
>various Pros use so I thought some of you folks would be interested
>in the following. I presume the tensions are average tensions but its
>a little unclear due to the listing for Woodforde. I shall let some
>of the more knowledgable folk identify the players (since I haven't
>heard of a large number of these), racket and strings used. 
>
>The information comes from a newsletter from Bow Brand (who
>did most of the stringing at Wimbledon) so I claim no responsibility
>for any inaccuracies in it (apart from typos anyway - its been a hard
>day).
>
>Hopefully, it might stop Charles (Lin) posting lots of Technical
>trivia quizzes which I'm sure he'd get onto soon :-) :-) (sorry Charles -
>couldn't resist). (Incidently, how is the new racket coming along now
>you've had time to get used to it?)
>
>

   Moi?  I haven't posted a trivia question in ages.  I used to know
some tensions, but your list seems to be at odds with the one produced
by Tennis magazine.  I recall Courier having a very high tension (almost
70 pounds) but yours lists it as much lower.    I can think of several
reasons.  Some players play with different tensions on grass than on
other surfaces (perhaps loosening the tension).  Also, player's
taste in tension may change.  Or possibly some of the values are
in error.

   It's amazing that Woodforde can string the racquet at that high
a tension.  I've heard that strings are stronger these days due
to the oversized racquets form fifteen years back which required
higher tensions to maintain control.

   As far as my Donnay is concerned, once I lowered the tension and
played with a while, it seems to feel quite nice.   I also liked
the Academy Pro, but after already abandoning one racquet (which I
sold at a fraction of the original price), I thought that going
to a third would be a mistake, but I am now pretty happy with my
new racquet.

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu
From: B536HIND@UTARLVM1.UTA.EDU (Sudarshana Bhat)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: More Davis Cup news please!
Date: 26 Sep 1992 09:45:55 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Could someone please post news on the other Davis Cup matches please?
Even Gess Shankar has been unable to do that thus far :-(.  From what I
heard on the local "Select Talk", India led Britain 1-0; and I don't even
know who is playing for the two countries.  Also, Germany were 2-0 up over
their opponent (who?).

From a newspaper clipping:  When asked by Allure magazine to finish
the sentence "Plastic surgery is ...", Steffi Graf had this to say:
"... unnecessary.  I think that one ought to respect oneself and accept
what one was born with."  [So much for the nosy (nosey?) fans ;-)]
From: ab29+@andrew.cmu.edu (Anil N. Balchandani)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: WANTED : DONNAY ALLWOOD R
Date: 4 Oct 92 21:06:44 GMT
Organization: Junior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

On 28-Sep-92 in WANTED : DONNAY ALLWOOD R    
user Jeff Kling@brent.uucp writes:
> 
>-> I'm looking for a Donnay Allwood tennis racquet, in reasonable shape.
>-> This is an old, old racquet.  I'm sure many of you have one lying
>-> around and don't want it.  If you want to give it to someone who
>-> values the sentimenta value of this racquet, then please consider
>-> donating it to me and I'll give it a good home.
> 
>This may be of help to you.  Bjorn Borg had approximately 80 or so
>remakes custom made for him when he tried his come-back.  He has since
>switched over to a graphite as these woods were not adaquate in todays
>game.  You could try writing his fan club (if he has one) or his
>management company (he certainly has one of these) and put in your
>request.  Or, alternately, he had all these racquets built by a small
>company in Britain.  In one of the '91 issues of Tennis, it is named.
>Try them too.  Good luck.
>                                                          
> 
Hi there Jeff,
    I am also looking for a racket like this.  I could not locate the
sender of the original message.  
    Could you help me in 
-Getting the original senders name and e-mail address.  I would imagine
him/her having more information by now
-Where I can get more information on the fan club.

Thanks in advance.


Best Regards,
Anil N Balchandani.

(363-2729) || (ab29@andrew) || (samy@ece.cmu.edu)
|| (anilb@frc.ri) || (aneel@arc.cmu.edu)

Best Regards,
Anil N Balchandani.

(363-2729) || (ab29@andrew) || (samy@ece.cmu.edu)
|| (anilb@frc.ri) || (aneel@arc.cmu.edu)
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