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From: tom@cs.su.oz.au (Thomas James Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Re: No reports from GF??
Date: 6 Oct 92 02:13:42 GMT
Reply-To: tom@cs.su.oz.au
Organization: Basser Department of Computer Science

In article <jodi.7.0@arbo.microbiol.uwa.oz.au>, jodi@arbo.microbiol.uwa.oz.au (Jodi Lindsay) writes:
|> I don't know about everyone else, but I thought Ablett's treatment of Don 
|> Pyke was pretty severe........four weeks I would have thought.
|> 
|> Or am I just a biased Eagles supporter??
|> 
|> P.S. when are they going to bring in tougher penalties for this sort of 
|> thing in the GF?  

	Ask Terry Daniher.  His career was practically ended after the
	'90 Grand Final - suspended for half a season, from which he
	never really recovered.

|> Jodi Lindsay
|> Department of Microbiology

	tom
From: sloan@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Davin Sloan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Re: Matera v McGuane
Date: 28 Sep 92 02:54:11 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

In article <3231@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU> cde@mulka (Colin Entwisle) writes:
>
>
>		WHO THE HELL IS MATERA?
>
>				CE
>

I think he played in the Grand Final, didn't he??!! :-)



1993: The year of the Magpie,

Davin                                  e-mail: sloan@latcs1.lat.oz.au
From: jodi@arbo.microbiol.uwa.oz.au (Jodi Lindsay)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Re: Mark of the Year
Date: 2 Oct 1992 04:41:18 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: cns.microbiol.uwa.edu.au

In article <Mark.11.717918926@espionage.curtin.edu.au> Mark@espionage.curtin.edu.au (Mark Ridge) writes:
>From: Mark@espionage.curtin.edu.au (Mark Ridge)
>Subject: Re: Mark of the Year
>Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 05:55:26 GMT

>In article <1992Sep30.043207.12589@cs.su.oz.au> tom@cs.su.oz.au (Thomas James Jones) writes:
>>From: tom@cs.su.oz.au (Thomas James Jones)
>>Subject: Mark of the Year
>>Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 04:32:07 GMT
>>               	
>>       Also, what happened to Paul Peos + Daniel Metropolis?
>>
>>       tom

>Firstly, I think John give us a terrific coverage of the football this and
>I would like to thank him for that,  well done John.  One thing though while 
>your in the habit of making accurate predictions are we going to win back-
>to-back premierships :-)

Agreed

>Paul Peos played a number of games with the Eagles but spent a lot of time 
>at his WAFL club East Perth (I can't remember if he was injuried at any 
>stage of the year).

I watched Peos play in the semi-final match against East Fremantle.  East 
Perth lost by 4 points, but EF went on to blitz South Freo in the final.  
Peos played fiarly well, the EP players were very conscious of feeding the 
ball to him, but he was heavily marked for much of the game.  He's obviously 
a strong player in the local comp, but if he can be held back that easily it'
s a bit of a worry.  The local papers have listed him as a strong contender 
to be picked up in the draft though......

>Daniel Metropolis played the following couple of games with the Eagles then 
>injured his knee and was out for the rest of the season.

>Mark.
Jodi Lindsay
Department of Microbiology
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From: Mark@espionage.curtin.edu.au (Mark Ridge)
Subject: Re: Ha
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:34:45 GMT

In article <3232@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU> cde@mulka (Colin Entwisle) writes:
>From: cde@mulka (Colin Entwisle)
>Subject: Re: Ha
>Date: 25 Sep 92 07:59:28 GMT
>ford_c@cs.uwa.oz.au (Pugs) writes:
>: cde@mulka (Colin Entwhistle) writes:
>: >ford_c@cs.uwa.oz.au (Pugs) writes:
>: >: load of bullshit which some idiot decided to dream up. Put it this way, if
>: >: Micky coaches the Demon spawn next year I might just barrack for the Bears
>: >: and fancy my chances. 
>: >        
>: >        looks like we'll be barricking for the same team if that
>: >happens
>: >        I thought Glendening was the worst possible outcome -
>: >now I have to rethink.
>: 
>: Actually i think GLENDINNING would make a very good coach (as a
>: West Australian and former Brownlow Medallist). I think I'll just 
>: keep on barracking for the soon-to-be reigning premiers, EAGLES!
>: (Although I don't like the term 'premiers', it makes the best team
>: in the competition sound like a bunch of women politicians, and I 
>: mean whoever are premiers at the time, not just the Eagles.)
>
>	At the risk of being flamed,
>	there are more important things than winning.
>
>	And not having any reject WA whingers involved in the club
>is just such a thing! 
>
>					CE

Oh Well, that will put Neale Balme out of the running also :-)
From: jodi@arbo.microbiol.uwa.oz.au (Jodi Lindsay)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Re: Eagle parade
Date: 30 Sep 1992 05:20:59 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
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In article <EVAN.92Sep30105705@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU> evan@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Evan Harris) writes:
>From: evan@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Evan Harris)
>Subject: Re: Eagle parade
>Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:57:05 GMT

>On 29 Sep 1992 07:39:18 GMT, jodi@arbo.microbiol.uwa.oz.au (Jodi Lindsay) said:

>Jodi> The introduction of a second team from WA is considered
>Jodi> inevitable.

>Yup.  A Good Thing.

>Jodi> West Australians are very keen to ensure that local talent plays
>Jodi> for local-based teams.

>In the long term, the draft doesn't really allow that.

You're right unfortunately, it will become more like the American Football 
System which is very effective, but destroys player loyalties.

>Jodi> The introduction of the West Coast Eagles means we get to see
>Jodi> top- class football live every fortnight, which is what we
>Jodi> deserve when you consider how many West Australians play in the
>Jodi> AFL.

>Hmm.  That's the stuff you see live on TV is it?  Aren't most games in
>Perth horribly boring one-sided no-contests by quarter time?  8-)

We lost two good games at home to Geelong and Collingwood this year.  Surely
I don't need to tell you the difference between a game on telly and a live 
game

>Admittedly, they weren't that bad this year, but they were in 1991.

>--
>Evan Harris                                     evan@cs.mu.OZ.AU
>Dept of Computer Science, The University of Melbourne, Australia


As for the Eagles jumpers - what's wrong with them????  Better than those 
Adelaide eyesores!!!

A second team in WA should be based in Fremantle, that seems to be where 
negotiations are heading.  Much of the talent in the Eagles line-up comes 
from the Fremantle area, and the most popular match-up in the WAFL is the 
East Fremantle vs South Fremantle derby.  Since Fremantle is south of the 
Swan River, and Subiaco is north, having a Fremantle team lends itself to a 
splitting of the city by the river boundary.  Already there is a north-south 
rivalry in the city, albeit not large.  Once a second team becomes 
competitive (we're probably looking at a few years down the track), 
supporters may be biased to the team on "their side of the river".  Sounds 
great to me!!!


Jodi Lindsay
Department of Microbiology
From: AJP@buc.edu.au (Alan Penhall)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: The mood in Geelong
Date: 28 Sep 92 02:38:15 GMT
Organization: Ballarat University College
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While driving through a blue and white bedecked Geelong late yesterday I 
couldn't help but notice this sign : `THE EAGLES STINK', which was attached 
to a toilet bowel and cistern mounted 5 foot up a power pole.
I think that it just about sums up the mood in Geelong.

- Al.
 
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From: mathers@sibelius.trl.oz.au (Steven Mathers)
Subject: Re: Eagle parade
Reply-To: s.mathers@trl.oz.au
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 00:48:18 GMT

In article <3258@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU>, cde@mulka (Colin Entwisle) writes:
|> jodi@arbo.microbiol.uwa.oz.au (Jodi Lindsay) writes:
|> : 
|> : As for the Eagles jumpers - what's wrong with them????  Better than those 
|> : Adelaide eyesores!!!
|> :
|> 
|> 	nice one!
|> 	I dont think anyone considers adelaide's jumper to be a
|> football jumper either - although at least it vaguely mantains
|> a traditional stripe orientation!

Adelaide jumpers are proper footy jumpers, they just use unfortunate
colours.  The bears old jumper was horrible, with the bear and the big
'BB' on it or something like that.  I think West Coast having a jumper
of vertical blue and yellow stripes or somesuch would change the West
Coast pysche a little bit.  Perhaps the players would feel more like
they were part of the Aussie rules tradition and less of a bunch of
wankers from WA with something to prove.  I think the publics perception
of them might change a little bit as well.
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From: justin@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (Justin Ridge)
Subject: Re: Final loc'n (was: Congratulations Eagles)
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 23:47:03 GMT

dunleavy@acsu.buffalo.edu (Houston Dunleavy) writes:

>	Couldn't agree more with either sentiment. Congrats should also go to
>channel 7, who gave their usual great coverage of the game. The feed to Prime
>was marvellous and did the game and the city of Melbourne proud.
>	Now all the competition needs is a couple more 100K+ stadiums in Perth
>and Adelaide and we could talk about spreading the Grand Final around! Mind
>you, I'm a Melburnian and love the 'G. Any thoughts about the grand Final being
>held in other cities anyone?

(Melbournian?)

1) Channel 7 are a joke... well, their commentators anyway.  Most people
   that I know watch the TV with the sound turned down and listen to 3LO.
   Bring back the ABC!
2) From memory, the AFL have signed an agreement that guarantees that
   the Grand Final will be played at the MCG for the next 25 years, although
   I couldn't be 100% sure of this...

JR
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From: marcus@iiasa.ac.at (Marcus SCHNELL)
Subject: Re: Second WA Team!
Organization: International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 12:35:24 GMT

ANDREW DOCKERY (10764380@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au) wrote:
[stuff deleted]

: Yes, I agree, it is the only way it can develop. A solution to this 
: problem to me is:
: FUCK THE NATIONAL COMPETITION!!!!!!!!!!!
: BRING BACK SYDNEY TO SOUTH MELBOURNE WHERE IT BELONGS!!!!!!!!!!
: GET RID OF WEST COAST, ADELAIDE AND BRISBANE ( NEVER WANTED THEM IN THE 
: FIRST PLACE )!!!!!!!!!
: RENAME THE AFL TO VFL!!!!!!!!!
: In case you hadn't guessed yet, I happen to be a fan of a team that 
: nearly got merged a couple of years ago ( Fitzroy ), and so probably is
: one of the prime candidates for merger if your plan goes ahead. And, yes,
: I'm going bananas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Such a narrowminded point of view, I really pity you !!!

Marcus

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From: moonunit@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Benjamin Ruse)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Eagles win the F*** and tame God
Date: 26 Sep 1992 16:48:59 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au


	As a Geelong supporter, the saddest moment was watching the cameras
go back to their locker-room after the final whistle, and focusing on
that disheartened lot of players. Talk about rubbing salt into their
wounds, after the beating they took.
	Where does this Grand Final leave God now?
From: dunleavy@acsu.buffalo.edu (Houston Dunleavy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Re: Final loc'n (was: Congratulations Eagles)
Date: 1 Oct 92 19:47:18 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <justin.717810423@tasman> justin@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (Justin Ridge) writes:

>
>1) Channel 7 are a joke... well, their commentators anyway.  Most people
>   that I know watch the TV with the sound turned down and listen to 3LO.
>   Bring back the ABC!

>JR
	Obviously you've not had to deal with US sporting coverage "en masse". 
I've been here over four years and anything dished up by American sporting 
commentators can't hold a candle to their Australian counterparts......even the
guys on channel 7. Too bad we never get to see the ABC here though.
Cheers all,

-- 
Houston Dunleavy, single Aussie composer-in-exile. Peace, light and love to you
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." Dr. Martin Luther King.
	"It is better to write for yourself and not have a public, 
than to write for the public and not have a self" Cyril Connelly.
From: martin@megadata.mega.oz.au (Martin Corr)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Re: No reports from GF??
Date: 6 Oct 92 01:57:39 GMT
Organization: Megadata P/L, North Ryde, Sydney, Aust.
Originator: martin@job

From article <Mark.12.718082070@espionage.curtin.edu.au>, by Mark@espionage.curtin.edu.au (Mark Ridge):
> In article <jodi.7.0@arbo.microbiol.uwa.oz.au> jodi@arbo.microbiol.uwa.oz.au (Jodi Lindsay) writes:
>>From: jodi@arbo.microbiol.uwa.oz.au (Jodi Lindsay)
>>Subject: No reports from GF??
>>Date: 2 Oct 1992 08:30:46 GMT
..........
> 
> While we're on the subject of the finals isn't funny how now some DH from 
> Hawthorn is whinging and complaining about Subiaco oval. Never heard a 
> whisper last year and the ground was in much better condition this year.  I 
> suppose he thinks they would have one another one if they beat the Eagles in 
> the elimination final. 
> 
Who would argue. I thought the AFL wouldn't play a GF interstate. They certainly
did this year. Having said that, the ground was OK. The opposition was better.
>>Jodi Lindsay
>>Department of Microbiology
> 
> Mark.

Martin
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From: Mark@espionage.curtin.edu.au (Mark Ridge)
Subject: Re: No reports from GF??
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 03:14:30 GMT

In article <jodi.7.0@arbo.microbiol.uwa.oz.au> jodi@arbo.microbiol.uwa.oz.au (Jodi Lindsay) writes:
>From: jodi@arbo.microbiol.uwa.oz.au (Jodi Lindsay)
>Subject: No reports from GF??
>Date: 2 Oct 1992 08:30:46 GMT
>I don't know about everyone else, but I thought Ablett's treatment of Don 
>Pyke was pretty severe........four weeks I would have thought.
>
Ablett although he is a talented player,  he has a habit of using his knees 
and elbows and my memory serves my right,  wasn't it his knee who injured 
'Dipper' (I can't spell his name) in the 89 GF.

>Or am I just a biased Eagles supporter??

Yer, you probably are, but then so am I.

But in trying not to be unbiased, I believe there were a number of incidents 
which in a normal home and away games may have been picked up.  But neither 
the Eagles or Geelong will complain because they both could possibly lose 
players early next season if they did and none of their players were 
seriously injured.

There are 4 incidents in the game where it was possible that there could of 
been a report(s).

1)Ablett elbowing Pyke
2)Brownless kneeing McIntosh
3)Kemp and Wills (I think it was him) at each other
4)Bairstow was also decked while sheperding

While we're on the subject of the finals isn't funny how now some DH from 
Hawthorn is whinging and complaining about Subiaco oval. Never heard a 
whisper last year and the ground was in much better condition this year.  I 
suppose he thinks they would have one another one if they beat the Eagles in 
the elimination final. 

>Jodi Lindsay
>Department of Microbiology

Mark.
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From: mathers@sibelius.trl.oz.au (Steven Mathers)
Subject: Re: Eagle parade
Reply-To: s.mathers@trl.oz.au
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 05:58:57 GMT

|> Just a couple of points - their psyche doesn't need to be changed, they're
|> the best team in the league and also the premiers. I very much doubt that
|> they themselves feel like a 'bunch of wankers' and they certainly wouldn't
|> want to change the public perception of them over here in Perth (where it 
|> matters). Besides, the League Cup has TRADITIONALLY been won by victorian
|> teams, so who gives a fuck if a few traditions are chucked out the window?
|> (certainly not me anyway)

Yo, awesome thinking, dude!  Let me just put on my weagles baseball cap
backwards, slip on some high-tops, and throw out all those gnarly
australian football traditions.

Eagles - Coca Cola futureball cup winners 98, 99, 2000...
From: cde@mulka (Colin Entwisle)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Re: No reports from GF??
Date: 5 Oct 92 01:14:58 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

jodi@arbo.microbiol.uwa.oz.au (Jodi Lindsay) writes:
: I don't know about everyone else, but I thought Ablett's treatment of Don 
: Pyke was pretty severe........four weeks I would have thought.
:

	looked like GA was just holding his line and if anyone
	was aggressing it was Pyke.

	Absolutely unreportable incident!
	not even freekickable!

: Or am I just a biased Eagles supporter??

	Yes
: 
: P.S. when are they going to bring in tougher penalties for this sort of 
: thing in the GF?  I watched an interview with Blight before the game, and 
: some comic asked him who would pick up Matera.  When no definate reply was 
: forthcoming, it was suggested it would be the trainers 30 secs after the 
: bouncedown.  Yeah yeah, we all took the joke, but if Ablett or someone was 
: decked, I think they'd still be screaming..........
: Jodi Lindsay
: Department of Microbiology

	I think you thinking of basketball

				CE
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From: gilstrap@sbctri.sbc.com (Brian R. Gilstrap)
Subject: Need a copy of the Final on VHS
Organization: Southwestern Bell Technology Resources
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 21:11:40 GMT

Can anyone provide me with a VHS tape of the Grand Final if I pay for the
tape and the shipping?  I would appreciate it to no end!

By, the way, I don't know the outcome (I'm not reading this group so I can see
the Final without knowing the results), so please don't tell me!

Any help would greatly appreciated...

Thanks,
Brian Gilstrap
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From: 10703950@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (BENJAMIN CUTLER)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: some premiers
Date: 6 Oct 92 07:21:35 GMT
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University


 - In the VFA this year the Sandringham Zebras defeated the Williamstown 
Seagulls in the Grand final. Joe Rugolo (sand) was voted B.O.G.
 - The Prahran 2-blues came in third and guess who got reported in the 
prelim final. None other than Brian Taylor (surprise surprise).
 - Box Hill Mustangs finished 4th in a rather spiteful 1st semi-final 
against Williamstown which led to many reports and suspensions.

Im not sure who finished 5th and from there on, but Oakleigh took the wooden 
spoon for the second year running.

In the SANFL Port Adelaide magpies trounced Glenelg Tigers in the 
grandfinal (unusual to see port win a grand final!!).
Not sure of anything else in the SANFL

Also for those who care, in the Melbourne Metro Eastern Districts Football 
League
Division 1 - East Burwood rams defeated the Mitcham Tigers
             Vermont Eagles finished 4th asfter losing to Ringwood in the 
             first Semi

Division 2 - Montrose demons won the grand final over a spiteful Clayton 
             side.
             Blackburn 3rd and Lilydale 4th
             Montrose will replace Doncaster in division 1 next year.

Division 3 - Donvale's unbeaton run this season continued in the Grand Final 
             They will find it more interesting in division 2 next year when 
             they replace Coldstream.
             Warrandyte 2nd  Forest Hill 3rd and Kilsyth 4th

Division 4 - Financially troubled club Surrey Hills showed great commitment 
             this year in winning the grand final over a premiership 
             unlucky Heathmont. No Surrey players received a cent for 
             playing this year. They won from 4th on the ladder.
             Heathmont 2nd (again) Waverley 3rd and Nunawading 4th.
             
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From: ajd@DIALix.oz.au (Anthony Doig)
Subject: Intelligent, noteworthy, post Grand Final comment
Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Western Australia
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 13:59:41 GMT





YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




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From: gmathers@trl.oz.au (Geoff Mathers)
Subject: Re: No reports from GF??
Reply-To: gmathers@trl.oz.au
Organization: Telecom Research Laboratories
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 03:56:04 GMT

In article 3292@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU, cde@mulka (Colin Entwisle) writes:
:
>
>	looked like GA was just holding his line and if anyone
>	was aggressing it was Pyke.
>
>	Absolutely unreportable incident!
>	not even freekickable!
>
Bloody oath mate, young Gary was just casually running along,
minding his own busines, when that dirty Pyke oaf, comes charging
at him. So what does he do??, what anyone else would do and thats
protect himself. If Pyke is  so stupid as to run into his elbow, he
deserves everything he got.

play-on is the call.

geoff
			



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From: ford_c@cs.uwa.oz.au (Pugs)
Subject: Re: No reports from GF??
Organization: Dept. Computer Science, University of Western Australia.
Distribution: world 
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 00:53:22 GMT

In <1992Oct3.004117.6815@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> CS19241099G@LUST.LATROBE.EDU.AU (CRAWFORD, TROY) writes:

>Well I hate to sound  like a Geelong whinger, but I didn't hear any weagles
>supporters showing any signs of sorrow when robust Kenny Hinkley was decked
>twice!  Sure Ablett plays hard, but don't Worsfold and Langdon?  If it had
>have been Hinkers who was shepherding and Worsfold or Langdon, would Hinks
>have come off any better?  
 
There is a difference between an elbow to the head and a fair hip and 
shoulder. I really admired Ablett as a footy player before the GF but
that's changed a bit.

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