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From: kollur@aix.rpi.edu (Ramana Kolluri)
Subject: Re: SEC Championship Game 
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:35:30 GMT

In article <dkm2.722121826@Isis.MsState.Edu> dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee) writes:
>kollur@jec310.its.rpi.edu (Ramana Kolluri) writes:
>
>>Is the SEC championship game on at 12:30 EST or 3:30 EST?
>> 
>>Ramana
>> 
>>.............................................
>
>>Nov. 26th
>>Auburn 999
>>Alabama  0                     
>>.............................................
>
>Woof gods, please forgive her.  She merely mistyped the score.  It was a simple
                           him.   he
>transposition error. Please do not sacrifice her to the great elephant.
>
>
And I did not mistype the score.
Anyway do you know what time the game is on. I have to make travel
plans for that day 
Ramana

>
>
>-- 
>               David K. Magee | "Mandrake! Get over here and feed me that  
>         MIS Graduate Student |  belt boy.  The Redcoats are coming! "
> Mississippi State University |
>          dkm2@ra.msstate.edu |   -  General Jack Ripper, Dr. Strangelove 


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jphillip@comanche.ess.harris.com (John Phillips)
Subject: Re: Miami - Syracuse
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 04:19:15 GMT
Reply-To: jphillip@comanche.ess.harris.com
Organization: Harris Corporation, Government Aerospace Systems Division

>
>....... If Graves did not got trashed at the end
>of the 4th quarter (and if the Orangemen used the clock wisely), well, luck
>will not keep Miami from losing..
- Louis
>>Yes and if Syracuse had not been playing Miami, Graves would not have been hit
>>hard enough to be groggy or have been sacked twice in the final seconds or had
>>his reciever hit and dropped on the last play. In fact, if they had not been 
>>playing Miami, I believe they would have won the game!
>>J.P.

>>>Pal, may be you should tell the people how you could win a game without playing
>>>it.  Wh
- Louis

Do I have to spell this out for you buddy? I suggest you stay away from
viewing films with lots symbolism and stick to reruns of BJ and the BEAR.
What I meant was if Syracuse was playing any other *team* than Miami.

First off, I am an FSU fan, which should give me as much license to bitch
about Miami's luck as anyone. I maintain that FSU has never lost to a Miami
team that was not superior. I site all the talent Miami has put in the NFL 
as proof. What I was trying to say in my 'tongue in cheek' response was that
Miami benefits from its own strength and not luck. Knocking Graves groggy,
the sacks and a safety placed strategically to allow anything but a touchdown,
just examples of the little things that collectively make Miami a champion.
Sure Miami benefited from missed field goals in earlier games, but I believe
that if the situation was reversed Miami would have scored a touchdown. I
hope FSU gets a rematch and kicks Miami's ass, but if Miami win's another
title, its time recognize Miami as the most dominating team in history
( yes GT went undefeated and un-scored upon, but that was another era).
28 game win streak, 48 home win streak and all the national titles, it
takes more than luck for this!
J.P.
From: morse@satie.cs.unc.edu (Bryan Morse)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Holiday Bowl (Re: HAWKEYE BOWL CHANCES)
Keywords: travesty
Date: 18 Nov 92 05:32:41 GMT
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

In article <BxvL2o.E6x@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler) writes:
 [in response to me]
>	You probably don't know this Bryan, but the Holiday Bowl publicly
>	announced either Sunday night or Monday morning that it indeed
>	*would* honor the deal with the Big Ten.  

Thanks for the update Randy--You're right, I hadn't heard that yet.

  [possibilities omitted]

>	I think the Holiday Bowl is
>	simply looking ahead.  Remember, last year they got a 10-1 Iowa
>	team, and they don't want to kill a potentially lucrative
>	arrangement just because of one bad year...

The timing of it also seems to suggest that after Saturday's game between
Hawaii and SDSU, they realized that the likely WAC participant in the 
Holiday Bowl will itself probably only have a 6-4-1 record.  

-- 
Bryan Morse                University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
morse@cs.unc.edu           Department of Computer Science
From: m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Big 8 Bowl paranoia
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:18:57 GMT
Reply-To: m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp. (VMS Software Support - Colorado)

--
>This has been an insane season. Not quite as weird as 1990, when everyone 
>thought that ND-CU would be a shoo-in for the nat'l championshp and ND lost,
>and heck, EVERYONE lost, except Ga. Tech. 

>All I can hope is that Gibbs and Collins play the "game to save the coach's 
>job", that is, beat the living daylights out of Nebraska. And Colorado prove 
>they belong against Syracuse/ND. 

>And if that doesn't happen, maybe a Tokyo surprise???

It's not a good thing to HAVE to depend on other teams. Especially when OU
has 3 losses and 2 ties. We won't talk about KSU yet.

Don't kid yourself. CU is not there YET. I did say "YET" not so don't jump all
over me. If they got spanked, no thrashed and severely punished, 52-7 vs NU
then how do you think they will do against ND or Syracuse? CU has only played
one legit top-10 team this year and they were severely exposed. If NU had not
been upset (and it was a major upset and you know who you are) then the Huskers
would be top-5 right now. By far the best team CU played.

If I were you I would hope CU does not go to the Orange bowl. They would only
be exposed again. They will be better next year though.

OU is toast friday.

Husker Henderson

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 M_Henderson               | "Could you please continue the petty bickering?
 Marty Henderson           |  I find it most intriguing."   ---    Data, 
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Subject: Southerners and Northern football teams
Originator: delarocq@c00523-118rd.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 02:13:20 GMT




    I have to agree with the Notre Dame guy. Living in the South, and being
 a Yankee is really bad. I can't take all of these truly bad fans down here.
 I am originally lived in the heart of football country, around Pittsburgh.
 I miss the sausage grilling outside the stadium, the snow, the cold weather
 where you can see your breath, the general rabid atmosphere. 
 People down here are too laid back. You have got to GET INTO THE GAME!!!

    It's so sad- And this always seems to happen- everytime I go to yell at
 the refs in a tirade for just 15-20 secs, people look at you funny. They are
 just not used to it..
 
    I would love to play any northern team in a bowl game.. Then I could find
 solace among both sides!!! It would be a blast, not a hassle!! :)

    Besides, there is nothing worse than having to watch a game in Alabama,
 South Carolina, or Virginia's stadiums... No respect!! sheesh....

Go ahead, flame away, but I only state my opinion!!!!!!!
-- 
delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu


      
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1988,1989,1990,1991 AFC East Division Champions
1991,1992 AFC Conference Champions

Hungry for some fish.. Monday Night Football, November 16, 1992..

If you are a Buffalo Bills fan, email me at delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu
so we can talk all about the games, insight, etc.
If you are a Packers fan, let me know. I am interested in any news
out of Green Bay...
A PROUD MEMBER OF THE BILLS COALITION TAKING THE BET II.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner)
Subject: Re: All AP & CNN/USA pollsters, read this
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:51:17 GMT

Dave "Lee Corso" Meeks writes:

>Bottom line, the only explanation I can see for this is margin of victory.
>Miami has schedule strength, they have Won/lost/tie total, they have defense,
> etc...  Does anyone out there realize that Iowa, Arizona, FSU, PSU, TCU, 
>and Temple all had their WORST offensive point totals against Miami???
>-- 
>David T. Meeks            || "New shadows tugging at the corner of his eye
>VMark Software, Inc.      ||  Jostling for attention as the sunlight flares
>uvmark!davem@merk.com     ||  Through a curtains tear, shuffling its beams
>davem%uvmark@merk.com     ||  As if in nervous anticipation of another day"

And does anyone out there realize he's wrong?  TCU scored 10 against Miami,
and only 9 against the Mighty Mustangs of Southern Methodist, including a
TD on a kickoff return.  I thought of this one off the top of my head, so
the others may be wrong, too.

GT

Since this is the only common opponent, does this mean SMU's defense is better
than Miami's?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: th9708@meibm8.cen.uiuc.edu (Todd Lee Henderson)
Subject: Re: FSU should remain #4.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: rec.sport.football.college
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:36:47 GMT

jcho@nmsu.EDU (CHO) writes:


>I love the 'Noles....they are my favorite (in case many of you didn't
>know that from my previous posts).  As much as I would love them to
>be up at #3 (which they are in the AP Poll), I think TAMU was wronged...
>just as I felt Miami was wronged after they beat to Arizona... I agree
>that TAMU didn't play like all the hype made them out to be....but to
>be frank, Houston hasn't been terrible...and has shown some semblance of
>brilliance here and there (yes and has gotten massacred by Mich).  The
>point I am making is that I believe FSU should not be polled higher than
>TAMU on account of one game... The Aggies held their ground and they 
>deserve to keep their status...as by now I think all undefeated teams
>have the right to be over teams with one loss... It will become clear
>in the bowls when the teams are put to the mettle... Right now the Noles
>have been steamrolling over some teams...but then alot of teams have been
>running over the last two teams FSU beat.  I personally hope the Gators
>chomp on Bama and get trashed by the Noles... As for TAMU...well, I hope
>they lose to Texas...(though really don't seee how)  A rematch with Miami
>would be most awesome...but I'll probably get an ulcer just from the tension
>of knowing FSU's choking ability.... :)

Probably not, I don't think your Noles choke in Bowl games do they?  Don't 
they have a win streak??

Todd
tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu

>							JCHO@nmsu.edu

>ps How about those NMSU aggies... (5-5) :)

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kollur@jec330.its.rpi.edu (Ramana Kolluri)
Subject: Re: Miami's NYD Opponent
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:54:58 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.160547.19531@makesys.com> john@makesys.com (John Turman) writes:
>
>Since it's obvious to me that there is currently no worthy
>opponent for the Canes to play on NYD I propose that they
>play the NFL teams with the best record at the time on NYD.
>
>This scenario is the only one that will afford the Canes
>any respect from the MENSA crowd here in r.s.f.c. If the
>Canes play merely a College team on NYD they'll be 
>accused of; chickening out to someone else, beating up on
>a patsie, spousal abuse, increasing the national debt,
>or performing cervical cancer research without a permit.
>
>Therefore I submit that the Canes must play the Dallas
>Cowboys, San Fransisco 49ers and the Buffalo Bills all
>on NYD. Finally they'll play teams that no one here in
>r.s.f.c can say is inappropriate as an opponent.
>
>Any objections?
>
>John T.
>-- 
Here we go again......
Once again Miami fans are trying to figure out ways by which U of Miami
can duck playing good teams.
I would suggest you take a look at the records of the teams you have mentioned
and the following teams after 10 games.
Alabama 10-0
Texas A&M 10-0
Florida State 9-1
Syracuse 9-1
Notre Dame 8-1-1
Buffalo Bills 8-2
Dallas Cowboys 8-2
San Francisco 49ers 8-2
What makes you think that an 8-2 team is better than the other teams listed
above it?
Ramana

:-)  for the humor-challenged
......................................................
Nov 26th
Auburn 999
Alabama  0
.....................................................

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college,rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.sport.baseball.college
From: cooperr@a.cs.okstate.edu (COOPER ROBERT BRYA)
Subject: Re: TRIPLE PLAYS (was Re: Help with a trivia question)
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 08:05:51 GMT
Keywords: tiguzz

>>In 1990, MSU (&LSU) won the SEC basketball championship.  MSU had the basketball
>>team post season, the football post season, baseball post season, tennis post
>>season and golf too!  Anyone else had 5 teams in the same year post season?
>>
>>David
>>
>>-- 
>>               David K. Magee | "Mandrake! Get over here and feed me that  
>>         MIS Graduate Student |  belt boy.  The Redcoats are coming! "

Sure, Oklahoma State University does it just about every year.
Golf, Baseball, Wrestling are always de facto post-season for us,
and we usually make it there with two out of the four of men's
and women's basketball, women's softball, or football.

Bryan Cooper, cooperr@a.cs.okstate.edu
ps. peace
From: sfm@manduca.neurobio.arizona.edu (Stephen Matheson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: PAC-10 vs. Big-10 (was Re: Mediocracy vs Money)
Date: 20 Nov 92 03:08:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group

From article <BILLMS.92Nov19185113@gip.eecs.umich.edu>,
by billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith):
> In article <1992Nov19.202837.21682@serval.net.wsu.edu>
> jjungbau@meriadoc.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer) writes:
> 
>    No kidding!  It's especially ridiculous that the Big Ten will probably
>    have as many or more teams in bowls than the PAC-10.  Every time I hear
>    about Iowa going to the Copper Bowl at 6-5 I cringe, knowing that WSU is
>    more deserving.  Even if we lose the Apple Cup, at 7-4, we're still better
>    than Iowa.
> 
> What teams has WSU lost to, and which ones has it beaten?  Iowa has lost to
> several ranked teams, and looked pretty darn good through the year.  They
> gave Miami a game, though not a real scare.

Hey, I think Northwestern lost to some ranked teams, too!  Why aren't they
being considered for a bowl?  In respectable college bowl games (which
the Copper apparently isn't), *winning* games is a fairly high priority.
According to today's Tucson newspaper, Iowa has beaten exactly *one*
team with a winning record all year.  That team?  Illinois.  Another
overrated Big 10 team.  Their record?  5-4-1 [snicker].  Against who?
Why, more of those Big 10 teams!

As for Washington State, I know they've beaten at least one winner:
us (that'd be Arizona).  They beat the Cats in Tucson (only home loss
this year) and scored 23 points, the most scored by anyone against
Arizona this season.  Even if they lose Saturday to Washington, they
will have lost to far better teams than Iowa has...BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Like Jim said, we'd all love to see Washington dismember the perennially
overrated Wolverines again, so we can show again what the PAC-10 is --
and what the Big 10 isn't.

> Bill



--

Steve Matheson   Program in Neuroscience   University of Arizona
sfm@neurobio.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: weyland@sn.jsc.nasa.gov (WEYLAND,MARK)
Subject: Re: AGGIES SUCK!!!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: ghoti hunting
Organization: University of Arizona MIS Department - Mosaic Group
Distribution: usa
Date: 18 Nov 1992 08:00 CST  

In article <1992Nov17.234048.21903@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>, kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado) writes...
>I recently found this definition of the word Aggie in Webster's dictionary:
> 
>Aggie - n. 1. an asshole whose size is so extraordinary that the Eiffel tower
>       fits inside with only moderate lubrication. 2. a large conglomeration
>       of hicks into what has been called a "school". adj. 3 the USUALLY 
>       undesirable condition of a part of the body, especially genitalia.
>       usage: Your penis is Aggie.
> 
>Kevin
> 
> 
   This sounds like some kind of a personal problem, you really should see 
   a doctor.

Gig 'Em

MDW '88
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy)
Subject: Re: Stanford Bowl-bound
Organization: Arizona State Univ, Tempe
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:23:57 GMT

oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day) writes:
> Under the current agreement, wouldn't the Fiesta Bowl have
> to change times to take Stanford?

     Yes.  The game would be moved up earlier in the day.

> I though that no Big10 or Pac10 teams could play in a bowl at the
> same time (or overlapping with) the Rose.

     That is true.  That rule effectively eliminated
the Pac-10 from the Fiesta Bowl in recent years,
because the network holding the current contract had
been unwilling to change the time.  They finally
relented, however, in order to allow the Fiesta Bowl
to became part of the Bowl Coalition.

--Ralph Kennedy      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
                                          ^---------------The Wrong Choice
                             internet: kennedy@asuvax.asu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college,rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.sport.baseball.college
From: esquire@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Scott C. Kramer)
Subject: Re: TRIPLE PLAYS (was Re: Help with a trivia question)
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 17:43:57 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.080422.23220@a.cs.okstate.edu> cooperr@a.cs.okstate.edu (COOPER ROBERT BRYA) writes:
>>Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Arkansas finish #3 in the country 
>>in all   three one year? 
>>I believe that the year was 1977. In this year they went to the Orange 
>>Bowl and shocked Oklahoma. I don't remember them being in the Final 
>>Four that year ( I doremember UNC, UNCC, and Marquette - don't remember
>>the fourth).
>>This could have happened in the late 1960's. I don't know when, but 
>>my dad      brings it up once in a while.
>
>1977 Final Four:  Marquette, UNC, UNLV, UNCC
>1978 Final Four:  Kentucky, Duke, Arkansas, Notre Dame
>
>1977 NCAA World Series:  Arizona STate, South Carolina
>1978 NCAA World Series:  USC, Arizona State
>1979 NCAA World Series:  Cal-St Fullerton, Arkansas
>
>1-2-78 Orange Bowl:  Arkansas 31, Oklahoma 6
 I listened to Lou holtz on a tape mentioning so much about this game
that it just awed me...
   
>
>
>>-- 
>> The 1040 Income Tax form under the           *   The Rickster
>> President Bill Clinton Administration        *   milleman@athena.cs.uga.edu
>> 1) How much income did you earn last year?   *
>> 2) Send it in.                               * 
>
>The 1040 Income Tax form under the
>Bush Adminstration
>1)  Did you make more than 70,000 last year?
>2)  You did?  Shoot you don't owe any taxes then
>
>
>Bryan Cooper, cooperr@a.cs.okstate.edu
>ps. peace

 Scott
From: zcjm0f@wwnv45.uucp (CJohn Mace)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: The NCAA Applies its Double Standard Again
Keywords: n
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:14:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: hou.1992Nov18.191454.14013
Organization: Amoco Production

>>
>>You seem to have forgotten that A&M received a bit more than a slap on the
>>hand for their transgressions.  Yes, I will admit that they did things
>>wrong, and they got caught, but the football team was penalized, including
>>loss of scholarships and post-season ban.  Additionally, they entire
>>athletic program is now under "death-penalty" threat.
>
>A&M went to three consecutive Cotton Bowls while these transgressions were
>taking place.  During the 1988 season, they were penalized by no bowl and loss
>of 5? scholarships.  At that point in the season, they had already been 
>eliminated from the SWC title and wouldn't be going to the Cotton Bowl anyways.
>That's not much more than a slap on the wrist if you ask me, especially when 
>you consider the slaps SMU got in 1984 and TCU got in 1985.  And there is 
>NO WAY the NCAA would ever give A&M the Death Penalty.  I seem to remember
>their basketball team getting caught a couple of years ago.
>
>>Now, what I found interesting was the PAC-10 commission's reccomendation
>>that Hobert's loan not cause any forfeitures, because something like that
>>should have no bearing on "on-field performances".  We are talking about
>
>Yeah, I was kind of disgusted with that concept, too.  That is not the NCAA
>talking, though.  I'm wondering what they're going to say.

SMU got what they deserved...  A&M's violations were really trivial in
football..  It was never released publicly what happened to the basketball
program.  

I am in total agreement that TCU were wronged in a MAJOR way.  Wacker came
in and cleaned up and turned TCU into the NCAA for the violations that he
found...  That was a serious bummer.

>
>GT
>
>>Scott Harper                       Optical Data Systems, Inc.
>>scott@ods.com                      1101 E. Arapaho Road
>> (214) 234-6400                     Richardson, TX  75081

cmuck
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 12:38:04 -0500 
From: "Robert W. Jordan" <rj25+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: HUSKER IRONY

I couldn't believe the score when I saw it on TV:  Iowa St. 19  Nebraska 10.

Now that I'm away at college, I don't hear much about Nebraska football,
except waiting for scores on Sat. and reading the paper on Monday.  This
loss is so disappointing because I really thought Nebraska had a team
that looked like possible national champions.  I thought that both the
Colorado and Kansas games would be close, but imagine the surprise and
delight (for Husker fans like me) as Nebraska dominated both teams!

I figured, "Well, Oklahoma will probably be playing hard to beat us. 
But I think the Huskers can win their last three games, even if they are
on the road."
It looked as if NU would cruise to the Orange Bowl to hopefully play
Miami for the National Championship (provided TAMU and 'bama stumbled).

Well, if anybody was playing like national champions on Saturday, Iowa
St. deserves their place (even though Notre Dame pulled off a great
win).  There is one good thing I'm going to remember about the ISU-NU
game:  Iowa St's field goal kicker, Ty Stewart, kicked four field goals
to beat Nebraska.  Stewart graduated two years ahead of me from Omaha
Westside high school.  He must be feeling awesome after contributing to
ISU's big upset of Nebraska.  I give ISU, and especially Ty Stewart,
congratulations for their performance.  Best of luck to them and the
bowl-bound Big 8 teams.

Rob Jordan
Freshman @ Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh, PA.
Omaha Westside High class of '92.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: ryan@pi.cs.fsu.edu (John Ryan)
Subject: Re: Possible #1 vs. #2 matchup in major bowl games.
Reply-To: ryan@nu.cs.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University Computer Science Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 03:59:12 GMT

In article <BxvvAM.7tL@encore.com> jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich) writes:
>rszczerb@boole.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba) writes:

>>: #1 Miami (11-0) vs. #2 Florida State (10-1)

>>So, if they didn't play a rematch, what would happen? (Assuming Alabama
>>loses)

>Well ... they could always play ND in the Fiesta Bowl ... that is
>if they're not scared.

>		- rob

Scared...  of ND???  Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!!!  Good one, Rob.

ND won't even agree to play FSU on its own home field.

-- 
--------------------------------------------
-John Ryan
ryan@cs.fsu.edu