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From: co057@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven H. Lichter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: InnerDrive to a Mac? (CLARIFICATION)
Date: 31 Dec 1992 06:55:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


From what I remember that drive was not SCSI and just plugged into the slot
since it was power supply and H/D. They have been out of business for at least 
3 years.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: GS+Ethertalk
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 08:51:04 GMT

I'm in the process of networking a bunch of computers over Ethernet 
with a NeXT as a server. So far I can use it to send out AFP to Mac's
and PC's via IPT's uShare. This requires no software for the Mac's, just
the Chooser and Ethertalk Level2. Will the GS's implementation of Ethertalk
follow the Level II standards? In particular, are resources on a GS treated
in a similar way to those on the Mac? I find it rather neat that the folders
maintain their colours (record keeping enabled) with the Mac when running
it off a NeXT. Will this also be implemented on the GS?
 
One last item. Most printers are currently Localtalk, serial, etc...Will
Apple's Internet Software provide a similar functionality to say a hardware
bridge (I don't need TCP/IP-> Appletalk packet functionality as everything 
is AFP, and not TCP/IP, based) in terms of dealing with Ethertalk and 
Appletalk simultaneously active in a Mac? I realize there's lot's of Mac 
stuff here but the GS and Mac network very nicely. Now where is that Ethertalk
board?

Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
From: PKBRANDON@MSUS1.MSUS.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: pointless pointers?
Date: 22 Dec 92 19:33:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I received my Pointless update over a week ago; it's version 2.01.
It's definitely an order of magnitude faster!
Now, if the Apple-guys update the StyleWriter driver....;-)
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From: tsavage@ub.d.umn.edu (Tim Savage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Wanted: GS Memory Board
Date: 2 Jan 1993 21:25:54 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: ub.d.umn.edu


First of all, since this is my first post, I would like to say hello to
everyone who is doing so much to keep the II alive! Special congratulations
should go to the entire System 6 development team, as well as the people at
Procyon. Keep it up, everyone!

Now- the meat.

I need MEMORY!!! My rom 1 gs is barely chugging along with 1.25 meg, and
continual problems with my 100 meg Vulcan have left me with not enough. I
want to try out more stuff that came with sys. 6, but 800k disks won't do.

I have a ramkeeper (I know, I know, GET A HD!) and it would be nice to have
4 megs on a compatible board. Can anyone tell me exactly which boards work
with this outdated piece of Applied Engineering? Like, maybe, the Sequential
Systems 4 meg? It fits my budget perfectly!

Or, better yet, does anyone have a used board they would be willing to part
with? Like I said, something compatible with my RAMKeeper would be nice, but
I'm not too happy with AE after paying way to much for a hard drive that
really never worked. I would buy one of their boards used, if the price was
right, but if there are others that will work DEPENDABLY with my RAMKeeper,
I'd just as soon not have ANY more AE crap in my machine. OK?

Sorry to be so chatty-(first post you know). Thanks in advance.

Sincerely, 

Tim Savage                         tsavage@ub.d.umn.edu
From: foegelle@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Michael Foegelle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Turbo mouse
Date: 4 Jan 93 02:10:20 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <C06r6B.4Iy@news.udel.edu> lecates@bach.udel.edu (Roy LeCates) writes:
>
>You can get your Turbo Mouse completely re-fitted with new buttons,
>rollers, and sensors for $35 from Kensington.  E-mail to me and I'll
>supply more information.
>

That's not a bad deal, although it might seem a bit high at first glance.  I
recently had both of my switches die on me, and the replacement Cherry micro
switches run about $6 each through Newark Electronics, so that's $12 just to
fix the switches yourself (plus tax and shipping) if you know how to solder, 
etc.

Michael Foegelle



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From: st1dr@jane.uh.edu (Frankfort, David C.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: GS+ Magazine
Date: 29 Dec 1992 20:25 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: jane.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1992Dec29.084920.29934@rdg.dec.com>, gachot@bonnet.enet.dec.com () writes...
> 
>	Yes for me too, I subscribe last month for one year and I received the
>	September/October issue of GS+ Mag.
>	I'm still waiting for the November/December.
> 
>			-Erik.
Really I got mine today and I just subscribed last month.  The Nov/Dec issue
that is.
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*David F.				No silly quote.			       *
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
(Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0n6HhU-0000cLC; Mon, 28 Dec 92 02: 27 PST
From: bslog@pro-scat.cts.com (Bill Logsdon)
Subject: Re: rom 1 to rom 3 upgrade
Organization: ProLine [pro-scat] St. Petersburg, Florida.
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 02:57:48 EST


I beg yer pardon.... some of the machines sold in Europe and Canada, when
booted, show "Rom 02"..... I have SEEN this... it did exist, and is rare..

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas)
Subject: Re: Fatal Error 0681
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 07:40:45 GMT

In article <1993Jan2.002953.26702@actrix.gen.nz> David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>Error $0681 is "Event Queue Damaged".  It usually means that a program
>has written data into the wrong part of memory and overwrote part of
>the event queue.  Another common error that can occur in this
>situation is $0308 "Damaged HeartBeat Queue".
>
>The most common reason for either of these errors is a program with a
>bug (or a damaged program file), or a conflict between two programs.

I used to have this problem a LOT when trying to view GIF files on my
1.25MB system.  Now that I have a bigger RAMcard (2MB) I don't get
these crashes anymore.
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From: larry@lablues.UUCP (Lawrance A. Schneider)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: CD-ROM usage
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 14:03:55 EST
Organization: L/A Blues BBS - Auburn ME (207) 777-3465 & 7782

I know that there have been a number of querries about CD-ROMs; add
this to the list.

The frequent answer is that there are not many CD-ROMs that are
usable on a IIgs. i.e. there are not many that have programs for
the IIgs.  My question is somewhat different; OR I'M TOO STUPID
TO RECOGNIZE THAT IT ALREADY HAS BEEN ANSWERED.  I want to get
CD-ROMs for use by my children as encyclopedias(?) and dictionaries
and the like.  Thus, were I to spend some of my hard earned cash
on a CD-ROM, would I be able to find the afore mentioned and have
my children use same??                  Thanks     Larry

larry@lablues.UUCP
FidoNet:  1:132/300 Larry Schneider

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From: jimmys@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Subject: Re: a question of storage
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Reply-To: jimmys@ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 3 Jan 93 06:44:20 GMT

In article <9301030143.AA20676@chasm.scar.utoronto.ca> 90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao) writes:

[Some really good insight into flopticals removed (but saved on disk else
where.]

>> and the RamFAST SCSI card rev. B board, with ROM 3.00(something), I
>> will probably need to upgrade the roms again to work with the
>> flopticals.
>
>    Rev B?  Do you mean Rev D?  I have 3.00k which should work OK with a
>floptical drive.  3.00l is the latest, unless there has been yet another
>upgrade.
>

No, I mean "B" as in boy.  My Ramfast's got serial number 83, and I was
one of those people who got to be the first on my block with a RamFast.:)

BTW:  How can I take out a loan with The First National Bank of
Your Dad? :)

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From: bird@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (j.l.walters)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: README files on comp.binaries.apple2
Date: 2 Jan 93 02:21:14 GMT
Organization: AT&T

Folks,

I collect posts to comp.binaries.apple2 and feed them to folks in the two clubs
I belong to. Before I can do this I have to understand just what the post does.
In MOST cases this is very easy since there is a README or FILE.docs file
included in the .shk file. On the other hand, there are a disturbing number of
posts that consist only of a "BIN" file and it then becomes my job to figure
out just what these do. As an example, two files were recently posted, CNSQ1
and CNSQ2. Both were 32K in size which implies some sort of graphic, however, I
couldn't get Platinum Paint to load a recognizable picture for either and
typing: BRUN CNSQ1 from a BASIC prompt put me into the monitor so the BIN
designation was clearly in error. (I assume someone will promptly provide the
perfectly obvious meaning to CNSQ such that I will immediately know how to deal
with the files named in this manner in a rational manner. Oh well.)

The bottom line for these and a number of other posts to the binaries is that
they end up in my bit bucket. This saddens me since I know that folks have
spent a lot of effort on these programs/files and want to share them with
others. The bottom line is, if you don't tell the user community just what it
is you are trying to share and how to use it, it will be thrown away as
either useless or a potential virus.

One retort might be, "I put a TON of comments ahead of the BINSCII file, so
what is your problem?"

My answer is: "Sorry Charlie," I (and a lot of others) run sciibin on my
Unix(R) box and download ONLY the result of this action, so your comments are
never seen at the destination Apple. In addition, the BBS header is
never part of the .shk file I give to my two Apple clubs.
 
Finally, I'm so sorry I didn't vote for the moderated binaries group. I
foolshly thought it coulnd't possibly fail. I won't make that mistake
the next time it comes up for a vote!

Kind Regards,

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn)
Subject: Re: Interplay
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 00:05:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.205838.14504@utkux1.utk.edu> sadasiva@utkvx3.utk.edu (Sadasivam, Krishna Madur) writes:
>Are there any other IIgs programs to be released by Interplay, besides OOTW
>(which I'm still playing!)?? I think that OOTW has got to be the BEST game I've
>played on my IIgs, and that a sequel of some sort should be in the offing!!
>
>Oh, and here's some totally unrelated information. The Transformers are being
>revived...a new cartoon mini-series is in the works, along with new toy
>figures. Just thought I'd share that.
>
>
>Krish


As a matter of fact, there is. OOTW sold far better than anyone expected, so
Burger Bill's next assignment is Mario Teaches Typing GS.

Joe Kohn
From: exuhag@exu.ericsson.se (James Hague)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: problems w/comp.sys.apple2
Date: 29 Dec 92 14:54:21 GMT
Reply-To: exuhag@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Richardson, TX
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

Frank Lowney writes:
>
>(3) The quality of messages here has deteriorated to the point where I
>rarely read any msg that doesn't really grab me with the subject header. 
>The others I delete wholesale w/o reading them.  I am particularly put off
>by the personal attacks that have increased in frequency and pitch lately. 
>These folks need to seek out a counseling forum and learn how to deal with
>their anger and immaturity, this is not the place for it.

Unfortunately, this is true of almost every newsgroup.

>(4) The whining about Apple, Inc. policies is a real "downer" and seems not
>to serve any worthwhile purpose.

I've been through a couple of computer orphanings already and, in
retrospect, all the whining didn't accomplish anything.  It would
have been much better to just support and use the machine than to
rant about how idiotic the parent company's marketing was or to
fanatically go on about how my computer is superior to all others
ever developed.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: Why didn't my apple need a screen saver?
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 07:22:19 GMT

mmelez@vax.clarku.edu writes:

>Date sent:  31-DEC-1992 01:07:47 

>I've been wondering about something for a long time.  Almost every Mac I've
>worked with has had a screen saver installed, ostensibly to prevent screen
>burn-in.  I've had an Apple //e since 1983, with a "monitor ///" monochrome
>monitor attached, and my screen has never been burnt in, even when I left it on 
>for up to 12 hours at a time (usually I would turn it off, but every once 
>in a while I'd forget).  Is it the black-on-white nature of Mac monitors that 
>requires a screen saver, or was I just lucky with my //e?

  Well, see, you're one of the special few who have come to realize that
'screen saver' is a marketing term.  The more appropriate term is
'user bilcher' (No offense, Jim :-).  These days, pretty much all screen
savers do is provide something for the computer to do and for the user
to look at when the computer isn't being used for anything else.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: .QWK readers
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 19:10:22 GMT

90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao) writes:

>The following revelation escaped Soenke Behrens's lips:
>> 
>> No, but you could probably easily write one. The .QWK format does not seem
>> complicated.
>    Aren't QWK packets usually ZIPped?  I think that's the stumbling block
>for most people...

.QWK packets are usually archived with what archiver you specify to the
BBS software. BBS software that does not support it seems obsolete, I'd
say. Update :)

So, lowest common denominator is ARC. GSHK undoes that. Or use ZIP (PMPUnZIP).
Or LHA (LHExt, LHA). Or ZOO (booz, GSHK). Or ARJ (UnARJ). That's no problem,
really.

Soenke
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: Clayten_Hamacher@mindlink.bc.ca (Clayten Hamacher)
Subject: System Error Codes.
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 10:32:35 GMT

Can someone post or mail me a list of //GS error codes (ie 0911 etc)..

I can't use FTP or I'd look on apple.com myself.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: tgeer@pro-gumbo.cts.com (System Administrator)
Subject: Re: Apple II Networks
Organization: Apple Gumbo BBS
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 01:06:23 CST

In <13894.1031.uupcb@satalink.com>
joe.siegler@satalink.com (Joe Siegler) writes:

>Can someone tell me if there is a Proline system in the 214 area code?
>I'm new here, and would like to hit one of these system as well.   
>I've never actually been on one, and wanted to take a look.

A quick glance at the most current site list (Dec 15 1992) produced the
following sites in the (214) area code:

pro-chef      Colony, TX   (214) 370-2433
pro-storm     Dallas, TX   (214) 644-5113


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From: dcgreen@pro-harold.cts.com (David Green)
Subject: Re: Apple II Networks
Organization: The Harold Network -- An Alliance For Creative Communication
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 23:53:32 PST

In <1hbipiINN1g1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
co057@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven H. Lichter) writes:

>You might ask Steve P. He calls a ProLine System in MI that is PCPable. There
>are a couple here and I believe one of them in San Diego is PCPable.

I missed the original question, but ProLines are PC Pursuitable whenever they
are located in cities that PCP serves. That's all it takes. Pro-Harold is
PCPable, but the only thing I did to make that possible was pick a good city
in which to live (San Diego, CA). PCP did everything else.

David ;>

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From: paw@ausom.oz.au (Peter Watson)
Subject: Re: Why didn't my apple need a screen saver?
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 08:43:39 GMT
Reply-To: paw%ausom.oz@sol.cc.deakin.oz.au
Organization: AUSOM - The Apple Users Society of Melbourne

bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:

>mmelez@vax.clarku.edu writes:

>>I've been wondering about something for a long time.  Almost every Mac I've
>>worked with has had a screen saver installed, ostensibly to prevent screen
>>burn-in.  I've had an Apple //e since 1983, with a "monitor ///" monochrome
>>monitor attached, and my screen has never been burnt in, even when I left
>>it on for up to 12 hours at a time (usually I would turn it off, but every
>>once in a while I'd forget).  Is it the black-on-white nature of Mac
>>monitors that requires a screen saver, or was I just lucky with my //e?

> Well, see, you're one of the special few who have come to realize that
>'screen saver' is a marketing term.  The more appropriate term is
>'user bilcher' (No offense, Jim :-).  These days, pretty much all screen
>savers do is provide something for the computer to do and for the user
>to look at when the computer isn't being used for anything else.

While I have to agree that for most people a screen saver is a luxury (albeit
a fun luxury!), I have definitely seen the results of screen burn-in on real-
life screens. Hmmm, but come to think of it, they were mostly _mainframe_
terminals. Maybe there's a connection there.....

But for real people, screen savers are probably only an issue in the type of
environment where the screen is typically left switched on overnight, as many
businesses do to avoid powering machines up and down, or for out-of-hours
backups or dial-ins. I'd be very surprised if there was a genuine need for a
saver for home use.
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From: herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Herbert Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Can't get Mac TT fonts to show up
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 00:40:57 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Previously Richard Sherman wrote:
 
>I'm having trouble getting TrueType fonts from a Macintosh to
>show up on my GS.
>
>I formatted a macintosh disk on my IIgs and brought it to a
>friend's house where he copied some TrueType fonts over to the disk.
>When I put the disk in my machine, the files show up in the finderas an
>"unknown" file type.  What gives??
 
Nothing's wrong. That's the way it usually happens. Pointless will
automaticaly convert the files to the correct file type. Just click on
the Add button in the Pointless NDA. This is covered in the manual.
 
>I'm using a GS with system 6.0 and Pointless installed.  BTW, my
>friend used Fontmonger to convert some of the fonts to TrueType
>although I don't think this should make any difference.
 
There shouldn't be any problems with this.
 
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Edmonton Remote Systems         |   Miracles just make hard work!"
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada       |       The Herbster! 1988

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From: badbunny@tfsp.saic.com (Brendan Hoar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: On the topic of SSC baud rate generators...
Date: 3 Jan 1993 18:27:02 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Sorry that this isn't following netnews conventions (replying to the original
message doesnt work here since I dont get my netnews here).

I picked this up off of comp.dcom.modems and since this question was recently
posed here, I thought people might be interested.


From: gregh@hprnd.rose.hp.com (Greg Holdren)
Subject: Re: BAUD RATE GENERATORS
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 19:42:26 GMT

In article <7521.48.uupcb@uttsbbs.uucp> you wrote:
: Does anyone know how to construct an external baud rate generator for
: the Apple Super Serial Card?
:         - brandon lacava
:
 Couln't email directly, mail bounces.

 The 8116 baud rate generator hip work fine, I use them alot.
 Its a 18 pin device. Hang a 4.915200MHz or a 5.068800MHz crystal
 of it with a dip switch and its done, easy. The out put is 16x
 the desired baud rate. The parts can be ordered through Jameco
 in Belmont CA. 1-800-831-4242.
 Any questions just ask.


 Greg Holdren
 gregh@hprnd.rose.hp.com


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Work|Brendan_Hoar@notes.pw.com|_______so_defined__  | Recognizing our lives as
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