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From: tarokh@server.uwindsor.ca (TAROKH VAHID             )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: International Copyright Laws
Summary: more about copyrights
Date: 31 Aug 1992 21:01:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.152350.20633@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>, paran_p@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Pirouz Parang) writes:
> 
> 	I have heard that Iran has not signed International copyright agreements and thus, Iranian publishers are not protected or restricted by them.
> Does anyone know more about this?
> 
> 					                          	

As far as I know, when the book `roots' was publishe in Iran, the author
said in an interview that he had to have to get paid less in order to have
the price feasible to Iranian reader. Since the author I think 'Alex Hailey '
(if I have the spelling right) is American, I would imagine that the 
copyright laws applied to Iran in pre-revolutionary era. However I recall
that 'Jahad daneshgaahi' was publishing American books at a very low price
(actually even lower than the prices before the revolution), therefore
I do not think that we pay copyright to Americans anymore.

In my opinion, copyright and asking money for a book reprint is
ridiculous. People should be able to access scientific literature
at affordable price. Nowadays some authors and publishers are worse
than Mafia in ripping off the people. 

I hope that this has helped.

Vahid
From: hermi@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Lotfi Hermi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: King Fahd protests 'no fly' policy against Iraq
Date: 1 Sep 1992 18:51:51 -0400
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: function.mps.ohio-state.edu

Subject: King Fahd protests 'no fly' policy against Iraq
Date: Mon., Aug. 31, 22.30 +2 GMT
Slug-word: King Fahd, Saudi Arabia, Iraq
Format: regular


(DWYA)-Riadh, Saudi Arabia-- In a news conference held at a tent in the 
outskirts of Riadh, the Custodian of the two holy shrines, King Fahd al-
Saud denied reports by the American ABC station that the U.S. and its allies
are using its bases in Dahran and Tabuk to monitor Baghdad's compliance with
the latest 'no-fly' restriction imposed on Saddam's regimes.  The news
conference was held following reports by international news agencies that 
Russia is sending two navy ships to help implement the U.N. resolution. "I
personally called Saddam this morning to wake him for Fajr prayer, and told
him that Saudi Arabia and the Arav States are '100 %' behind president Saddam
and brotherly Iraq," the King said."  

The King's shift seems to be at odds with reports by international 
wires that the Kingdom along with other Gulf States want a 'clean job' 
from Western powers. The King added that " we are not a US protectorate 
as might Arab masses think. We have about ten thousand we helped train 
in the Hindukush mountains during the Afghan Jihad and we are going to 
use them whenever needed. We learned the Egyptian experience with the U.K. 
and the Tunisian one with France at the end of the 19th century and we will 
not repeat the same mistakes," the King emphasized. 

Observers in the region recorded massive regroupings of troops on 
the Jordanian border, near the port city of Aqava.  They see it as a major 
intimidation of the only democracy in the middle east, so far unchallenged 
by Arav States. 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala)
Subject: Re: Nuclear Bomb Testes & Earthquakes
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 01:16:36 GMT

alim@woodman.mips.com (Ali Moayedian) writes:


>I thought this article may be interesting to you, since there is a also 
>a reference to the Tabas quake in it.  I think they have the date wrong 
>though.  They refer to it as the 1978 Tabas quake.  I believe 1968 sounds 
>more correct.

78 is correct.
It was right before (or during) revolution.

>        Geophysicists in Germany and England believe the 1978
>        earthquake in Tabas, Iran, in which at least twenty-five
>        thousand people were killed, may have been triggered by an
>        underground nuclear explosion. . . .  British seismologists
>        believe the Tabas earthquake implies a nuclear test that has
>        gone awry. . . .  Moreover, a seismic laboratory in Uppsala,
>        Sweden, recorded a Soviet nuclear test of unusual size--ten
>        megatons--at Semipalitinsk only thirty-six hours before. . .
>        .  One German scientist specifically implicated this test in
>        the origin of Tabas disaster.

With the Soviets gone what can we do about it?
I remember there were rumors that Americans caused the earthquake.

Who knows this theory may be correct.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: akbar@fnalo.fnal.gov (MOKHTARANI, AKBAR)
Subject: Revised Retirement Plan
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4  
Reply-To: akbar@fnalo.fnal.gov
Organization: FNAL
Distribution:  world
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:56:55 GMT

 Hi guys,

 I found the following in my mail box at work. I thought it was funny and 
 like to share it with you. More sensetive audience may wish to exercise 
 their 'n' key. 

	Have a nice weekend
********




	May 1, 1992

	To: All Employees

	Re: Revised retirement plan

	As a result of the reduction of money for the departmental areas,
	we are forced to cut down on the number of personnel.

	Under this plan, older employees will be asked to go on early 
	retirement, thus permitting the retention of younger people who 
	represent our future plans. Therefore, a program to phase out older 
	personnel by the end of the current year, via retirement, will be 
	placed into effect immediately. This program will be known as RAPE 
	(Retire Aged Personnel Early). Employees who are RAPEd will be 
	given the opportunity to look for other jobs outside the company.
	Provided they were RAPEd, employees can request a review of their 
	employment records before actual retirement takes place. This 
	phase of the operation will be called SCREW (Survey of Capabilities 
	of Retired Early Workers).

	All employees who have been RAPEd or SCREWed may file an appeal 
	with upper management. This phase is called SHAFT (Study by 
	Higher Authority Following Termination). Under the terms of the new 
	policy, an employee may be RAPEd once, SCREWed twice, but he or 
	she may be SHAFTed as many times as the company deems appropriate.

	If an employee follows the above procedures, he or she will be 
	entitled to get HERPES (Half Earnings for Retired Personnel's 
	Early Severance), or CLAP (Combined Lump-sum Assistance Payment), 
	unless he or she has AIDS (Additional Income from Dependents or 
	Spouse).As HERPES and CLAP are considered benefit plans, any 
	employee who has received HERPES or CLAP will no longer be 
	RAPEd or SCREWed by the company.

	Management wishes to assure the younger employee who remain on 
	board that the company will continue its policy to assure that 
	employees are well trained through our Special High Intensity 
	Training (SHIT). The company takes great pride in the amount 
	of SHIT our employees receive. We have given our employees 
	more SHIT than any other company in the area. If any employee feels 
	he or she does not receive enough SHIT on the job, see your 
	immediate supervisor. Your supervisor is specially trained to 
	make sure that you receive all the SHIT you can stand. 

                                                 The Management.   
Xref: sparky soc.culture.iranian:7655 soc.culture.french:6372 talk.bizarre:28313
From: reese@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.french,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Mack--toi qui est ignorant..!!
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:18:36 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <1992Aug25.163224.677@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri) writes:
> In article <17c4cmINN4k0@shape.mps.ohio-state.edu>, hermi@shape.mps.ohio-state.edu (Lotfi Hermi) writes:
> |> Mack toi qui est ignorant,
> |> Je parle trois langues qu'est ce que tu en dit ?
> |> 
> |> You poor little american you doesn't have a history and probably cannot
> |> locate North Dakota on the map, Faris or bilad Faris is what is known now 
> |> as Iran. There will come the time when soon (insha Allah) our flags will
> |> be raised high in Paris and we will crash this agonizing culture of  yours
> |> after all the east is waking up. The Muslim Draggon has awaikened and soon
> |> will take back Andalucia and submit Rome to the Rule of Islam. Until then 
> |> enjoy and have your respite. "Likulli Ajalin Kitab" May be you should try 
> |> a dictionary or as one of your friends what this last statement means.
> |> Capito!

... OK everyone, he's given us a head start... let's start running ...

Jason

> 
> 
> Dear my,
> 
> You English Learn First before TALK.  NAANO NAANO!
> 
> SAyAnArA  Baby!
> 
> 
> waiting for  you in Paris!  Oh I meant Faris!
> 
> -- 
>          +----------------------------------------------------+
>         /   Farhad  Shakeri         E-Mail:                  /
>        /  Stanford   University     farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU  /
>       / Computer Science Department                        /
>      +----------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: Re: Joke (was Re: Mac--toi ...)
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 18:58:18 GMT

saleham@cauchy.mcs.clarkson.edu writes:

>  This is just a joke:
>  
>  An Iranian with American citizenship, made up his mind to 
>  vote for President Bush. And when he was asked why? his
>  answer was:
>  
>  Because Bush is a vice(wise) president. :-)

Great joke. If I were David Letterman, you'd be on my hit list.

>  Anwar Saleh

    --mack

--
When I kiss your lips, I feel the rolling thunder to my fingertips.
And all the while my head is in a spin. Deep within, I'm in love.
You're my everything...                       --Santa Esmeralda
Xref: sparky soc.culture.iranian:7550 soc.culture.arabic:3433 soc.culture.pakistan:14216
From: aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Modda'iyeh har hAzer va Vakileh har ghAyeb)
Subject: Re: Lotfi joon get a life was: Re: Mack--toi qui est ignorant..!!
Originator: aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU
Organization: VezArateh Addliyyeh 
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:02:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.172435.10720@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> 
erfani@tramp.Colorado.EDU (Hassani) writes:
>
>In article <17c4cmINN4k0@shape.mps.ohio-state.edu> 
>hermi@shape.mps.ohio-state.edu (Lotfi Hermi) writes:
>>Mack toi qui est ignorant,
>>Je parle trois langues qu'est ce que tu en dit ?
>
>So what you speak three languages? At least one, your English, is
>in dire need of upgrade. Kam Lotfi nakon lotfi joon. :-)

Hassani joon,

His (so-to-babble) French is wrong too. Heehee. :-)

>> There will come the time when soon (insha Allah) our flags will
>>be raised high in Paris and we will crash this agonizing culture of  yours
>>after all the east is waking up. 

AghA Lotfi, Assodeh bekhAb ke mA bidArim :-) East has not been sleeping. East
has been fighting within itself for silly little things. Folks like you 
contribute to this stupidity. And of course, the results are just too
obvious to mention.

>>will take back Andalucia and submit Rome to the Rule of Islam. Until then 
>>enjoy and have your respite. "Likulli Ajalin Kitab" May be you should try 
>>a dictionary or as one of your friends what this last statement means.
>>Capito!
>
>Hey baby, you worry about your own sinking ship and leave Rome to the
>Romans, as they saying goes. 

I think you mean "as the saying goes", don't you? Yeah, I know. These
typos. :-)

>And of course, your Islamic behavior here really shows what a wonderful 
>cultural upbringing you must have had and gives us all something to 
>really look forward to.

He is not trying to get you to see his view point, because after all
he is right. You are plain wrong. You don't know anyways. what he says
and thinks is right for everybody. Can't you understand that?

Asghar AghA

>As a Greek friend used to say: (Phonetically) Mallaga!
>Maybe (and not may be) you should try a dictionary or ask (not as) one
>of your friends what this last statement means.
>Putana! :-)

Shamsy khAnoom: vA, khodA margam bedeh. Boro zabooneto gAz begir mAdar.
                In harfA chiyeh, khejAlAt ham khoob chizieh bAbA. 




From: moussavi@hplred.HP.COM (Farshid Moussavi)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:56:43 GMT
Subject: Re: Farhad filio del...Mister smart Ja'ba
Organization: Hewlett Packard Labs, Palo Alto CA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian

As an Iranian living abroad (and I think most of us out here will agree),
European racism in Europe and religious fundamentalism at home is one
and all the same.  In both cases, a bunch of people are trying to tell us
that they are better than we are and therefore we should submit to their wishes.
They are both different forms of the same thing: ignorance.  Other forms
of ignorance you may have come by are Iranians thinking they are better than
Arabs, Arabs thinking they enlightend all lands they conquered with Islam,
Israelis thinking that the land they reside on is theirs by divine decree,
and the list is endless ....

The fact is, ignorance is the greatest threat to humankind.  One does
not give up ignorance by getting degrees, but by making the commitment
to open his/her mind.  (I am not referring to the "open" as in the opening
of Faris, Paris, Panama, Afghanistan, etc!!)  Like many Iranians abroad, I
left my country due to unfavorable conditions at home.  Sometimes I am
comfortable here, sometimes I am not.  Just because I may dress or think 
differently than IRI's preferred style doesn't make me gharbzadeh and 
countryless.  Gharbzadeh or not, religious or not, whether we like it or not, 
we are all Iranians.  More importantly, we are all human beings.  Until
our government and its followers recognize this, things will not get any 
better for anyone.


nokar and chaker -e- shoma,


Agha Javad
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: How could we help the victims of Andrew.
Originator: sehari@vincent1.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:57:11 GMT

---
I heard the news that there was natural disaster in Florida, and neighboring 
states.  In line with our tradition of good deeds for people in need, I would
like to donate money to the victims of this natural disaster. I also know
that many Iranians have the same feeling for the victims of this natural
disaster and would like to help.  Nevertheless, Most organizations set up
for this purpose do not carry an Iranian representation, and it is better that
our help carries our name, Iranians, with it.  Therefore, I encourage people in
Florida to set up an account for helping the victims of this natural disaster,
which represent our community's intent to help. Names like Iranian good will
fund for the people of Florida might be a good representation of our society
intent to help.  Off course, the help should be given to all human beings,
regardless of race, national origin, or religion of those people.

                     With highest regards,
                          Babak   Sehari.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala)
Subject: Re: Rafsanjaani urges NAM to save women from Western values
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 00:42:46 GMT


>	JAKARTA, Indonesia (UPI) -- Iranian President Ali Akbar Hashemi
>Rafsanjani called on the Non-Aligned Movement Wednesday to save Third
>World women from the ``evil consequences'' of the spread of Western
>values.
>	In a speech at the 10th NAM summit, Rafsanjani said the spread of
>Western-inspired feminism and materialism had damaged the family
>structure and ``severely impaired women's growth and progress.''
>	With the growth of the middle class in many developing countries --
>especially in Asia -- women are increasingly demanding rights and
>privileges their Western counterparts won decades ago, including having
>their own careers.
>	Rafsanjani warned leaders of the 108-member NAM that the trend could
>alienate women from their traditional role in families, and from what he
>called their true inner selves.
>	``I wish to recommend NAM member states to find ways and means of
>consolidating the foundation of the family, creating a suitable climate
>for the elevation of women's real personality, and resolving problems in
>order to save them from the evil consequences that have befallen Western
>women,'' he said.

Is Mr. Rafsanjaani refering to the status of women in Iran?
Is he recommanding other nations to follow suit?

Ala
From: sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: back with a few jokes , hi all
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:38:49 GMT
Organization: UB


Hi Guys and Gals , 

Missed me ? I know you did.  :-)

Well, I decided to kick off with a few jokes ... here they go :

*** No intention to insult any race or nationality , if any ***

1) one day one Arab guy was walking and someone threw a piece of ice 
at him and he turned around and said :

	" Ki Bah Yakh Sang Zad?? "

2) a rashti wrote a letter to his girlfriend who lived next door and 
put the letter on the wall that both houses shared , and underneath
the letter he wrote :

	" NAmeh Ro Gozashtam rooyeh deevAr , bro BardAr "

3) Someone asked a rashti about his nationality:

	-"Ahleh Koja Hasti ??"

He replied :

	-"Mageh Rasht Chesheh??"

4) An Arab wrote a letter to Saddam Hossein after invasion of Khoramshahr
and he wrote :

	" Saddam , Ageh tA farDah Khoramshahr rah pass dAdee , keh dAdee.
	  Ageh nadAdy  , pass kay mikhahi pass bedee ? "

---------------------------------------------------------------------
Hope you liked them , again no intention to insult other races ...
It's human's dirty nature to make fun of other people specially races...
so take it easy. it's not because I am Iranian, it's because unfortunately 
I am human.
 
Ramin

*****************************************************************************
* "We hate it when our friends become successfull. And if we could destroy  *
*  them , you bet your life we would ....   "   The Mozzerman               *
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri)
Subject: Re: About arab invasion of Bilad Faris...
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 01:00:53 GMT

In article minhaszt@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Zafar T Minhas) writes:
|> 
|> oh in another followup, farhad talks about paris. actually, paris, pars,
|> erin iran, all have a direct link. the same huns that went into northern
|> europe were the aryans of iran and even india, the ones that set up the
|> caste system and messed up the poor peoples lives there as well
|> 
|> zafar


Zafar AhgA,  Actually  everything that starts with letter P has 
something to do with Iran.    PeiAz, Paneer, Polo, PeePee, Paris...

We Iranians invented the Letter 'P' and now we are claiming back
everything that starts with P except 'Ford Pinto'. We will save the
Peshkel for Josephine.

You know I was just telling Mack that you are an OK guy!


-- 
         +----------------------------------------------------+
        /   Farhad  Shakeri         E-Mail:                  /
       /  Stanford   University     farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU  /
      / Computer Science Department (415) 723-0009         /
     +----------------------------------------------------+
Xref: sparky soc.culture.iranian:7542 soc.culture.arabic:3430 soc.culture.pakistan:14199
From: jamshid@socrates.ucsf.edu (J. Naghizadeh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Stop the Racist Articles
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:15:54 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab


In recent days a number of articles have appeared in soc.culture.iranian (SCI)
with explicit anti-arab tone. This attitude reflects the dominant thinking
in Iran which emerged during Phalavi dynasty where the problems within the 
Iranian society were seen as resulting from the 1400 year old Arab 
invasion. This thinking still persists specially in the younger 
generation. We must however note:

SCI is not the school yard where people can throw around ethnic or 
racist jokes  for laughs or enjoyment. This is a powerful medium 
with over 20000 subcribers many of them non-Iranains. These jokes 
and racist remarks create ill feeling between us and our Arab 
neighbors. Please note that the present Arabs in the middle east had 
nothing to do with the Arab invasion of Iran which happened 1400 
years ago. 

The Arab conquest of Iran happened 1400 years ago and has little 
relevance in todays politics. In the New World Order the former 
colonialists are exploiting the ethnic and religious tensions to 
impose their political will. This is specially true in the middle east. 
Arabs are not our enemy today, they are suffering the newly 
emerging colonialism just like we Iranians are.It is just these ill 
feelings which are exploited by the outside powers to create wars 
such as the eight year Iran-Iraq war with immense cost and 
suffering to both Iranian and Iraqi people.

We must wake up from the 1400 year old sleep and stop blaming 
Arabs and Islam for our problems. The Iranian culture of Sassanid 
Dynasty is totally irrelevant to todays Iran. It is impossible to know 
what would be the state of present Iran if the Arab invasion of 1400 
years ago had not happened. We would probably be in a similar state 
as todays India. The social structure in ancient Persia was the cast 
system which still survives in India.

The anti-Arab peotry in Ferdowsi's Shahnameh was relevant about a 
1000 years ago when Iran was struggling to free itself from Arab 
domination and revive the Persian language. It is absolutely 
irrelevant and harmful today.

--jamshid
From: kambizm@fidibus.uio.no
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: A WORD OF CAUTION
Date: 30 Aug 92 12:47:07 GMT
Reply-To: kambizm@fidibus.uio.no
Organization: University of Oslo, Norway



>>If someone expresses a question such:
>>     Why some Persians hate Arabs?
>>     ;Why Arabs hate Iranians?
>      
>      Watch your mouth. You say *some Persians* hate Arabs, 
>      then *Arabs* hate Iranians. It is the difference between
>      some and all.
> Anwar      

I think Anwar missed the point, pointed out by the first writer.
The first writer meant that one should suspect the one who
makes these kind of questions. That such a questioner is maybe
there to create discord. He did not mean that anybody hates 
anybody but it was the sincerity and the purpose of the hypothetical
questioner which is under question.


                                  Kambiz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: ahriman@wam.umd.edu (Ahoora Mazda and I are just kidding around!)
Subject: Food for evil thought
Originator: ahriman@rac1.wam.umd.edu
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 04:09:19 GMT


Well I'm finally here, the devil himself. I'm having a grand opening special
Get twice the riches and fame at the low price of your sole. What a bargain!

Anyway, how many of you guys agree that religion and the worship of God (or 
yours truely :) is a private matter, and is none of anyone elses business?

-- 
ahriman

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