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From: operbwt@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu (Barry Trottier)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Shaq:  the next Wilt
Date: 12 Dec 92 19:33:05 GMT
Reply-To: operbwt@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
NNTP-Posting-Host: yellow.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

In article <42471@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> cs161feu@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff)  
writes:
> In article <1gaa5hINNam3@transfer.stratus.com>,
> halpin@sw.stratus.com (Jim Halpin) writes:
> >Orlando has come back to earth after their fast start. Shaq is a
> >great player, but as a team Orlando still has a ways to go.
> 
> This is all second-hand info (I didn't see the game myself), so the
> info may not be 100% reliable.  But what I heard was:
> 
> Orlando lost tonight to Phoenix, 108-107.  With Orlando trailing,
> 108-106, with under a second to play, Shaquille went to the line to
> shoot two free throws.  Made the first.  Missed the second.
> 
> He'll never be a superstar until he can learn to make those free
> throws.  :^)
> 
> Tony

Well, he will be a super "Wilt" play-a-like, Wilt could never hit the darn free  
throws very well either.

Hey, free throws aren't everything! :)
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Barry Trottier
e-mail:  operbwt@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
From: ron@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Ron Boerger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Tark is out of San Antone
Keywords: sad no chance meddling owner frustrated long-time fan
Date: 19 Dec 92 04:53:14 GMT
Reply-To: ron@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Ron Boerger)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tandem Computers; Austin TX
Originator: ron@plight

Briefly heard on the local TV news:

Jerry Tarkanian has been fired as coach of the San Antonio Spurs.
Surprise!  Meddling owner Red McCombs strikes again.  While it's no
secret that Tark wasn't having a lot of fun in SA, 20 games into the
season is a bit early to press the panic button, even if they are a
couple games under .500.  Any team with the amount of injuries the
Spurs have had (starting F Anderson, Cummings out for entire season
so far, and backup starting F Carr out too), and NO point guard (thanks
AGAIN Red) would be hard pressed to do better.

I didn't hear who the replacement coach would be, but it could be
(AGAIN) Bob Bass, who has had stints following Doug Moe, Mo McHone,
Larry Brown, Cotton Fitsimmons, and others after THEY were canned.

Ya know, Red owns a bunch of car dealerships.  Maybe that's why he
makes so many trades :-p  Anyone want to buy a like-new Spurs parka?

Well, the bright side is that you might be able to walk up and buy tickets
the day of the game again if this trend continues.
-- 
Ron Boerger        Unix System Admin, Tandem Computers, Austin Texas USA 78728
+1 (512) 244-8414  ron@mpd.tandem.com  -or-  cs.utexas.edu!halley!ron
Hornist Ordinare   Next AHC performance:  Jan 24, St Martin's Lutheran Church
From: oz@hpkslx.mayfield.HP.COM (Kent Ostby)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 23:58:10 GMT
Subject: Re: Warriors down the tubes....
Organization: HP Response Center Lab
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro

>/ hpkslx:rec.sport.basketball.pro / cs161feu@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff) /  9:20 am  Dec  9, 1992 /
>In article <1g48euINN5n9@network.ucsd.edu>,
>erwin@bend.ucsd.edu (Sean Erwin) writes:
>>In the Warriors' loss to Indiana yesterday, Billy Owens was injured and will
>>be out 10days-2wks.  This is just getting uglier and uglier....
>
>This is getting ridiculous.  They ought to change their name to the
>Golden State Clippers.  Or maybe the Cavaliers.
>
Hey look on the bright side....at this rate we will still have a number pick
next year and it will be a good one at that.

Oz
From: davidy@sumax.seattleu.edu (Stimpson J. Cat)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: new jimmy jax rumor?
Date: 20 Dec 1992 02:42:44 -0800
Organization: Seattle University
NNTP-Posting-Host: sumax.seattleu.edu
Keywords: Jimmy Jackson

In article <1992Dec16.172332.17195@micom.com> jscott@micom.com (James Scott) writes:
>on KMPC (LA) last night i heard the following ...
>
>seattle has a deal on the table which sends payton and doug christie's
>rights to little D for JJ's rights.
>
	This one would be hard to believe, since Payton is having a excellent
season and is doing what Seattle expected him to when they drafted him #2.
I don't think they'll part with him just when he is showing what he can do,
especially since it would mean trading a point guard for a shooting guard.
Seattle does need to bring along a 2-guard for the future, but for now
Seattle could not afford to have only one true point guard (Nate McMillan)
on its roster. More likely would be Benoit Benjamin instead of Payton.




					David L. Yee
				email to:davidy@sumax.seattleu.edu


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From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Re: Lane Violations (was Re: Jordan and Drexler)
Organization: Blue Riddle Productions
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:43:54 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.004105.17286@sequent.com> gsmith@sequent.com (Greg Smith) writes:
>I think you can get in the lane right after the ball leaves the hand IF you
>are lined up on the side of the key. However the shooter and anyone else
>on the floor behind the foul line can't enter the key until the ball hits
>the rim. Jordan wasn't lined up on the key but came flying in from above 
>the free throw line about the same time the ball was releasing. Pretty 
>good trick if you can get away with it. (which MJ obviously did)

This will sound very naive of me, but did Jordan step into the lane?  I'm
guessing that he did (the legs can't really be all that anymore), but if
he didn't and just managed to fly *over* the lane, that probably wouldn't
be a lane violation.  Of course, I'm sure he and the people jockeying for
position in the lane would be quite prone to injury, but something like that
would be possible, wouldn't it?

>-- 
>******************************************************************************
>Greg Smith - x84364					gsmith@sequent.com
>Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.				!sequent!gsmith
>______________________________________________________________________________

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From: edrury@3cpu.rain.com (Ed Drury)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: PORTLAND INJURED PLAYERS
Date: 20 Dec 92 12:39:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: 3cpu.4329
Reply-To: edrury@3cpu.UUCP (Ed Drury)
Organization: Garden Lane Software

In article <BzIvM2.JMz@news.iastate.edu> swindoro@iastate.edu (Subianto Windoro) writes:
>I'd like to know about the injured players of the Blazers. How are they doing ?

 I'll take a stab. These are not ranked in any particular order :

 Jerome Kersey. Patellar Tendinitis ("Jumpers Knee"). Has missed 10 games,
eight consecutive, since jamming his knee after a dunk in practice. Portland
is exactly 5 and 5 for those 10 games. Has practiced this week , it is
not known at this time if he will play Sunday night against the Golden
State Warriors. It has been reported that the knee is better, just hasn't
been tested enough to see if he his ready to play.

 Kevin Duckworth. "Sore Knees" , bilateral. Played against Seattle two
nights ago. NMRI scan shows no cartilage damage.

 Mario Elie. Severe sprain left ankle. Has been playing through the
injury. Tried one game with a special double ankle brace. He's had
limited mobility and shooting percentage from both the floor and FT line
is WAY down. Seems to be moving much better, shooting is still way down.

 Cliff Robinson. Bursitis (left?) hip. Also playing through it. At times
visibly limping. Major change for him has been precautions to avoid his
hip stiffing up. Once he comes off the bench, he's got to stay in the
game. For that reason, he has been starting and playing the entire second
half of games. As a result, since the injury he is leading Portland in
minutes.

 Clyde Drexler. Recovering from arthroscopic surgery to the right knee,
tendorness on the left ball of the foot. The team Physician feels that
the right knee is still about 3 weeks away from having 100% strength.
Like anyone recovering from such a procedure, has good days and bad.

 Rod Strickland - Sprained fingers, both hands. Most severe on left.
As a result, his turnovers are way up and his assists way down. His
shooting though is great. Maybe he should keep all that tape on.. He's
had back to back season highs in scoring this week.

 David Johnson. Moderate sprain right ankle.


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From: daveyang@next06cville.wam.umd.edu (God'sservant)
Subject: Re: Who are Wingate (cha) and Young (det)?
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:18:16 GMT

In article <1gn2e5INN1a1@mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE> belo@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de  
(Bela M. Voigt) writes:
> robinr@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (ROBIN RYAN NEIL) writes:
> 
> >I need help figuring out who "Young" is off of Detroit and who  
"Wingate" is 
> >off of Charlotte. If anyone knows I'd appreciate it if you dropped me a  
line.
> >Thanks in advance.
> >
> >Ryan N. Robin   (robinr@prism.cs.orst.edu)
> 
> David Wingate is the former Spur and the former Washington  
Bullet,released prior to the regular season. He attended Georgetown, and  
played with Reggie Williams(Den) I forget which years...teamate Alonzo  
Mourning is from the same school only he is 4 yrs younger or so.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: swenson.rtsg.mot.com (R. Scott Swenson)
Subject: Pooh
Organization: Motorola
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:15:03 GMT

What is up in Indiana?  Pooh has seen no action in the last 2 games.  
Is he hurt or riding the pine?
I see Detlef is starting and taking away some of the point duties.  




Please post or e-mail me at swenson@marble.rtsg.mot.com
From: robert@aero.org (R. S. Statsinger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Lakers 118, Bullets 93
Date: 12 Dec 1992 23:35:22 GMT
Organization: None to Speak of......
NNTP-Posting-Host: uniblab.aero.org

Well. Nice to see the Lakers beat a sub-.500 team for a change.
I mean, it's fine toying around with Portland and Chicago, but
stuff like that gets boring after a while.....

The Lakers put together their second straight OUTSTANDING game.
Seven men in double figures (just like against Portland), 50-39
rebounding edge. Perkins was the man, hitting 12-24 for 25 points,
seemingly doing whatever he wanted. Vlade Divac: 15 points, 12 boards,
4 assists, and a career-high SEVEN blocks. That's 12 blocks in the
last 2 games for him; as a team the Lakers have out-blocked their
opponents massively in the last few games.

Hey, it wasn't just the competition; the last couple of games, the Lakers
could have probably beaten anyone in the league - maybe even Sacramento.

Anthony Peeler continues to improve; he's very talented and seems
fearless out there. He thinks he can play against anyone, and if
he keeps improving at this rate, he will. He is still in the process
of mastering his talent, and as long as he isn't too prideful and
stays in control, he's gonna be a super player.  The Lakers
played Dewayne Cooper for 13 minutes, but have been using Green
and Worthy alot as big guards since Scott and Smith were hurt. The loss
of those two hasn't hurt alot (yet - look for this to change when
the team hits the road again), and has in fact provided all this playing
time for Peeler.

James Worthy? Well, these are strange new times for the Lakers. James
played 20 minutes for 9 points on 4-12 shooting. The team offense seems
to be evolving in ways that don't favor his game anymore. I think his
game is missing Magic's game, more so than Vlade's is now (again, credit
Edwards for helping Vlade). Worthy is healthy physically, and I
really don't think it's a matter of him being over the hill. Sure, he's
lost a step (maybe two), but the team dynamics are more responsible.
He may be a bit down about the way things are going for him, but
Ilook for him to hang in there and do whatever it takes to help the
team keep on winning - even if it means sitting on the bench. The upside
of course is that if the team makes the playoffs, James will have had
more rest than in many previous years. Look for Big Game James to come
through when the team needs him.

For the Bullets, I thought Ellison and Gugliotti played well. I like
those two, and Rex Chapman is also solid, though his defense could be 
better. Don MacLean played 5 minutes in garbage time for 2 points
and 2 boards. Got a terrific ovation when he came into the game. If 
he can get some more minutes, he's gonna be a player........

			R.S.
From: robert@aero.org (R. S. Statsinger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Scott & Smith ??????
Date: 14 Dec 1992 17:02:15 GMT
Organization: Your Guess Is As Good As Mine...
NNTP-Posting-Host: itro7s.aero.org

In article <1992Dec13.212718.32489@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> ism1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (IAN SETH MILLER) writes:
|What's going on with Byron Scott?  I thought his injury was day to day and he
|has been out for quite some time.  Now Tony Smith is out for I don't know how
|long.  With Peeler now starting, I expected to see Duane Cooper get some
|action, but the last boxscore I saw had only Green, Campbell and Edwards
|coming off the bench.  I guess Worthy was getting time at guard and I believe
|he dished out 12 assists.

Both Worthy and Green have been seeing alot of time in the backcourt
lately. Hey, neither one is Magic, but it's nice to have a 6'9" out
near the top of the key who can see over the defense, the way Magic
used to....   Cooper is being used, but is being brought
along more slowly than Peeler. Cooper is starting to look more comfortable
out there, though.....

Scott has had several NMR's on the sore foot - so far they've found
"nothing". Tony Smith has a pulled hamstring. Hope he's back soon.....

		R.S.


Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: klerk@wsbs03.bs.win.tue.nl (Andre Klerk)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: NBA tickets
Date: 15 Dec 92 07:52:25 GMT
Reply-To: klerk@bs.win.tue.nl


Hi there, my name is Andre Klerk and I live in the Netherlands. I am a great fan
of the NBA. Every week I watch NBA Action on Sportsnet and I must say : NBA I 
love it. Unfortunately, there is no highlevel hoop here in Holland (the local competition is very weak; the Dutch national team has to compete at C-level).
So in the first week of March I'm planning on flying to New York for a short holiday and during those days I want to visit some games.
The big problem however is that there is no way to order any tickets for NBA-
games here in Holland; neither via travel-agencies nor via the Dutch Basketball
Association.
So, I was wondering if you can tell me what to do and where and how to get 
some tickets. Please help an, almost desperate, baskeball fan.
You can contact me by (replying to this message on nn (or trn) or by) sending 
me some mail.
My e-mail address is : klerk@bs.win.tue.nl
Many thanks in advance and sincere greetings from Holland.

Andre.
From: reille85@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: WHO IS MO YASIN???
Date: 20 Dec 92 01:14:35 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

WHO IS MO YASIN???
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: roh@spot.Colorado.EDU (ROH JOHN J)
Subject: Re: David "The Agent From Hell" Falk
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 13:00:06 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.151618.2332@ll.mit.edu> nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith) writes:
>In article <1992Dec10.215040.6820@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> ogrady@iies.ecn.purdue.edu (Michael P. O'Grady) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec10.193154.11929@ll.mit.edu> nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith) writes:
>>>top athelete take in 1992, including endorsements:
>>>  michael jordan      $35.9 million   (according to Forbes)
>>>if you really really really think about it...its mikey -
>>>by definition.
>>>
>>>- nate
>>	Why?  You just said "including endorsements".  How do you factor
>>Nike, McDonald's, GM, Gatorade, et. al. into all this?  I would go along
>>with you on this, if you can get the advertising directors for these
>>companies to.
>>
>>Mike
>
>hey, i dunno who/what the endorsement picture is, but i think the
>question was who was overpaid the most - not some index of NBA
>contract divided by MyFavoriteValueStatToTheTeam.  i still go with MJ.
>
>- nate

 Hey, I think he deserves every penney of that plus more! Think what the
league would be like without Michael.  I only got into basketball because
of Jordan.  Like it or not, he consistently draws good crowds where ever
he goes and makes money for the opposing teams.  He's the numero uno
in ANY sports right now in terms of popularity.  He brings in LOTS of
money for the league and advertisers.  Therfore, in my opinion, he's not
overpaid at all.  

-John

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From: nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: David "The Agent From Hell" Falk
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:40:18 GMT
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory

In article <57337@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith) writes:
>
>But what makes you think that any of that is the fault of the players and
>their salaries? The salary cap is a percentage of revenues, before  that
>there was no requirement by the owners to disclose how much they were making.
>The salaries have skyrocketed recently but ticket prices have always gone
>up regardless of players salaries. Ticket prices reflect one thing, what
>the consumer will pay. The instant the demand for NBA tickets drops, ticket
>prices will stop rising. Until the salary cap, the owners were making more
>money and telling the players they were struggling, now the players salaries
>are being used to blame the higher ticket prices? If I remember correctly,
>there is not one team in the league that cannot pay its payroll just off
>the tv contracts, so ticket money is just extra to pay employees and 
>pocket what is left over.
>Russ Smith

i didnt say it was MJ's fault, did i?  hey - the whole NBA machine will
inexorably get whatever the market will bear.  it's not just his NBA
salary - he wasnt paid that 38.9 million or whatever by salary.  by far
the most of that was endorsements which then get trickled down to shoes
and wheaties and underwear...i mean, how much extra am i paying for a
box of wheaties because they have famous athletes on their boxes?
perhaps not all that much, because they sell a lot of wheaties, but what
they pay michael has to be in their cost analysis.

and then you say the owners cant pay the payroll by TV contracts alone,
so they raise the ticket prices...the way the NBA is arranged, with the
owners and players, its all one big Octopus, to use Norris' term.
indeed, its like the end of Animal Farm, where the other animals peer
through the window from the outside and look at the pigs making deals
with the humans - the more they look at the pigs and the more they look
at the humans, the more they cant tell which is which....whatever the
market will bear....

all i'm saying is that when you take into account that Michael is the
extremely splendid basketball player he is and subtract out the very high
fair shake for his ~2 hours of work per night, you will still have so much
left over that even guys like koncak, ferry, douglas et al cant match
it, despite being almost 100% inflated NBA grand falloons.

if you want ratios, then - hey it aint mike - but the original issue,
i think, was "who is the most overpaid?".      :-)

- nate, an NBA fan anyway
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From: mbn@greyskul.hf.intel.com (Mike Northam)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: SUMSTATS Cleveland Cavs through Dec 12
Date: 16 Dec 92 15:48:31 GMT
Reply-To: mbn@greyskul.hf.intel.com (Mike Northam)
Organization: Shorter Software Solutions
Cc: cle-list@tribe.b17d.ingr.com

The first 20 games, including vs. Seattle on Dec 12:

name   gms   m/g   p/g  r/g  a/g   fgp   3pp   ftp or/g  s/g to/g  b/g pf/g tc
battle  10  11.5   5.3  0.6  0.7 0.425 0.000 0.731  0.0  0.2  0.6  0.1  0.6  0 
brandon 20  21.6   8.7  1.9  3.9 0.441 0.214 0.875  0.6  0.9  1.4  0.3  1.9  3 
daugher 11  34.9  19.5  8.5  4.5 0.577 0.000 0.770  2.0  0.8  3.0  1.0  2.4  0 
ehlo    20  32.2  11.6  6.0  3.8 0.493 0.339 0.632  1.6  1.9  1.5  0.2  2.3  0 
ferry   18  18.2   7.4  3.9  2.0 0.545 0.333 0.852  1.2  0.4  1.0  0.7  2.4  0 
guiding  6  12.3   2.2  3.8  1.5 0.400 0.000 0.250  1.2  0.5  0.7  1.2  2.8  0 
kerr     5   8.2   2.4  1.4  2.2 0.500 0.000 1.000  0.0  0.4  0.4  0.0  0.4  0 
lane     1  17.0   5.0  6.0  0.0 0.111 0.000 0.750  4.0  3.0  0.0  2.0  4.0  0 
nance   20  35.8  16.9  9.2  2.7 0.498 0.000 0.920  2.5  0.5  1.6  2.6  2.5  0 
phills   6   5.8   3.3  0.5  0.3 0.350 0.000 0.667  0.2  0.3  0.7  0.2  0.8  0 
price   17  30.2  19.2  2.9  6.2 0.480 0.424 0.955  0.8  1.3  2.7  0.1  1.2  0 
sanders 20  24.4   9.2  3.8  1.9 0.510 0.000 0.773  0.9  0.8  1.1  0.5  3.1  0 
wilkins 20  23.2   8.2  2.1  2.3 0.410 0.000 0.800  0.8  0.8  1.3  0.1  1.9  0 
william 19  31.4  12.8  6.6  2.2 0.472 0.000 0.701  2.1  0.5  1.7  1.7  2.3  0 
team    20 242.5 105.7 42.2 27.6 0.482 0.338 0.802 11.9  7.8 14.3  7.1 19.9  3 
opponen 20 242.5 103.2 42.3 27.2 0.478 0.384 0.769 12.7  8.1 14.8  4.7 23.1  5 

Per 48 minutes
name      pts   reb   ast   fga   3pa   fta    or    pf    st    to    bk
battle   22.1   2.5   2.9  16.7   0.0  10.9   0.0   2.5   0.8   2.5   0.4 
brandon  19.2   4.2   8.5  17.8   1.6   3.5   1.2   4.1   2.0   3.2   0.7 
daugher  26.9  11.6   6.2  17.1   0.0   9.2   2.8   3.2   1.1   4.1   1.4 
ehlo     17.2   9.0   5.6  15.1   4.2   1.4   2.5   3.4   2.8   2.2   0.3 
ferry    19.6  10.4   5.3  14.5   1.3   4.0   3.2   6.3   1.0   2.6   1.8 
guiding   8.4  14.9   5.8   9.7   0.0   2.6   4.5  11.0   1.9   2.6   4.5 
kerr     14.0   8.2  12.9  11.7   2.3   2.3   0.0   2.3   2.3   2.3   0.0 
lane     14.1  16.9   0.0  25.4   0.0  11.3  11.3  11.3   8.5   0.0   5.6 
nance    22.8  12.4   3.6  18.2   0.2   5.0   3.4   3.3   0.7   2.1   3.6 
phills   27.4   4.1   2.7  27.4   0.0  12.3   1.4   6.9   2.7   5.5   1.4 
price    30.6   4.6   9.8  23.0   6.2   6.2   1.2   2.0   2.1   4.3   0.1 
sanders  18.1   7.4   3.7  14.4   0.0   4.3   1.8   6.1   1.5   2.2   1.0 
wilkins  16.9   4.4   4.7  17.1   0.7   3.6   1.8   3.8   1.5   2.7   0.2 
william  19.5  10.1   3.3  14.3   0.0   8.6   3.2   3.5   0.8   2.7   2.6 
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: swindoro@iastate.edu (Subianto Windoro)
Subject: PORTLAND INJURED PLAYERS
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 20:01:14 GMT

I'd like to know about the injured players of the Blazers. How are they doing ?

Thanks.
From: nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: K
Keywords: 'K'
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:44:39 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory

In article <1992Dec14.172149.29222@micom.com> jscott@micom.com (James Scott) writes:
>grubin@rap.ucar.edu (Rick Grubin) writes:
>> ... Kenon was aa better scorer and all-around
>> player, though his defense was a bit lax as well.  A good player though,
>
>hmmm.  well, he DOES hold the nba record for most steals in a game (11),
>doesn't he?  in all honesty though, he was probably alvin's defensive
>ancestor ... the ultimate gambler.
>
>james

yeah - special K holding the record for steals has to stick in the craw of
the better examples of defensive players...how many years did Bird lead
the Celts in steals?  and we all know what a defensive player he was.:-)

- nate
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