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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: Sherlock's secret love-life Was: So, which Holmes is it?
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 16:22:20 GMT

In article <BuDs0I.8B0@agora.rain.com> trifid@agora.rain.com (Roadster Racewerks) writes:

>As for Holmes' studied disregard for women, women were pretty much disregarded
>throughout the Victorian/Edwardian era (except for the Queen herself) by most
>men when it came to anything more practical than hand-kissing. (This was the
>era of horrible sweat-shops full of women and fairly young children...) Watson
>was an idealist in that regard. 


I liked the touch that was put in the Granada version of "The Abbey
Grange".  At the end of the story, the female client embraces Holmes in
a joyous hug after he pardons her lover for murdering her abusive
husband.  Holmes is visibly disturbed by this and tactfully tries to
remove her arms from around his person without being offensive.  The
scene implied that Holmes didn't even like to be _touched_ by women (or
other people in general).  Was this in the story, or did they take a
little liberty with the character?


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From: Chuck.Lavazzi@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Chuck Lavazzi)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.holmes
Subject: "Crucifer of Blood" (was:Re: So, which Holmes is it?)
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:01:40 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <bxsntfl.dsmythe@netcom.com> dsmythe@netcom.com (Dave Smythe) writes:
>In article <1992Sep9.160010.25061@trentu.ca> ccgwt@trentu.ca (Grant Totten) writes:
[...]
>
>Did anybody like Charlton Heston's recent Holmes?  "Crucifer of Blood" as
>I remember.  Was a "Sign of Four" kind-of...  I haven't decided, but I
>think it was a bit overdone.
	Actually, it's the film version of the Paul Giovanni play of the
same name.  The play was a big hit on Broadway several years ago but hasn't
been produced much since because of it's expensive technical demands (the
Thames boat chase, for example, takes place on stage!).  I enjoyed the
script's artful combination of the basic plotline of "Sign of Four" with
elements of the Victorian chiller tradition, but Heston was woefully miscast
as Holmes.
[...]
>
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Chuck



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From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: So, which Holmes is it?
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 13:59:46 GMT

In article <VSUMMERS.92Sep10081654@polaris.cv.nrao.edu> vsummers@polaris.cv.nrao.edu (Vince Summers) writes:
>     Isn't it just a little silly to psychoanalyze a character from fiction
>to determine if he was homosexual or not?

Not in a newsgroup named alt.fan.holmes.

My negative evidence is from _His Last Bow_, which is set on August 2, 1914,
more than 30 years after young Stamford introduced Holmes and Watson.  They
are still addressing each other by their surnames.

-- Herb Huston
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From: ECZ5SER@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Mike Randall)
Subject: Re: Baker Street Irregulars
Date: 10 Sep 92 08:46:48 PDT

In article <unixwiz.716074742@mcl>, on 9 Sep 92 21:39:02 GMT,
unixwiz@mcl.ucsb.edu (Silk) writes:

>I've heard that there is actually a group of Holmes fans called the
>BSI...Could anyone out there comment on this?
>
>I've not been able to track down any other Holmes group, but I'm not sure
>If its the fact that I'm in the colonies or what...
>
>So, please, I would appreciate it greatly if someone could put me in touch
>with on of these groups.

Besides the Baker Street Irregulars, which Chuck Lavazzi discussed
in a previous reply, there is also a British group, the Sherlock
Holmes Society of London. Among the luminaries accorded Honorary
Membership in the Society are:

Air Cmdt Jean Conan Doyle, D.B.E.
Peter Cushing, O.B.E.

The Society puts out the Sherlock Holmes Journal, which I prefer
to the Baker Street Journal. The British journal is more polished
and erudite. It also benefits from on-site research done by its
contributors into the settings of Holmes's adventures.

Does anyone know of any other good Holmes magazines or journals?
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From: eric_gorr@coglab_psych.uoregon.edu (Eric Gorr)
Subject: Shocked...
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 16:30:35 GMT

Well, after exhausting all of the interesting (IMHO) SF books, I decided to
start reading mysteries and felt that there was no better place to start
then with the master himself.  

When you first started to read holmes, were you as shocked as I was that he
was a drug user (cocane and morphine) in the novel The Sign Of Four?  

This totally blew my whole conception of the man when I read it.  

Yes, I am aware that there is either very little or no mention of it in
later novels and stories - allowing us to assume that he "kicked" the
habit.  Thank goodness.  Did Arthur Conan Doyle use drugs at one time? 
What that the reason for the appearence in the novel?


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From: eric_gorr@coglab_psych.uoregon.edu (Eric Gorr)
Subject: Re: Shocked...
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 19:46:26 GMT

In article <jvsn7a+.tssmith@netcom.com>, tssmith@netcom.com (Tim Smith)
writes:
> 
> In article <1992Sep9.163035.15364@nntp.uoregon.edu> eric_gorr@coglab_psych.uoregon.edu (Eric Gorr) writes:
> 
> I think it is made clear that Holmes was often affected by boredom (not
> enough clever criminals), and that he took drugs to alieviate his
> boredom.  I don't think this would have shocked a 19th century audience.

True.  But still didn't at around the same time Freud use cocane on some of
his patients and wasn't he looked down upon for doing so?

Typically if people are shocked by something in real life, they are shocked
by it in fiction
also...
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From: kathyli@sdcrsi.cray.com (the Rev. Mom)
Subject: Re: List of Brett episodes
Summary: Happy to oblige.
Organization: CRS San Diego UUCP Gateway
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:41:18 GMT

Happy to oblige.  I'm thinking of putting together an episode guide
sometime, but I'm too lazy.  There are 31 episodes.  So far, there have
been five series (or "seasons" if you prefer).  The screenplay writer's
names are in []'s. Dates given are copyright.  Enjoy.

THE ADVENTURES OF SHERLOCK HOLMES (I) [1984]

"A Scandal in Bohemia" [Alexander Baron]
"The Dancing Men" [Anthony Skene]
"The Naval Treaty" [Jeremy Paul]
"The Solitary Cyclist" [Alan Plater]
"The Crooked Man" [Alfred Shaughnessy]
"The Speckled Band" [Jeremy Paul]
"The Blue Carbuncle" [Paul Finney]

THE ADVENTURES OF SHERLOCK HOLMES (II) [1985]

"The Copper Beeches" [Bill Craig]
"The Greek Interpreter" [Derek Marlowe]
"The Norwood Builder" [Richard Harris]
"The Resident Patient" [Derek Marlowe]
"The Red-Headed League" [John Hawkesworth]
"The Final Problem" [John Hawkesworth]

THE RETURN OF SHERLOCK HOLMES (I) [1986]

"The Empty House" [John Hawkesworth]
"The Abbey Grange" [Trevor Bowen]
"The Musgrave Ritual" [Jeremy Paul]
"The Second Stain" [John Hawkesworth]
"The Man With the Twisted Lip" [Alan Pater]
"The Priory School" [T.R. Bowen]
"The Six Napoleons" [John Kane]

THE RETURN OF SHERLOCK HOLMES (II) [1987]

"The Sign of Four" [John Hawkesworth] [2hr]
"The Devil's Foot" [Gary Hopkins]
"Silver Blaze" [John Hawkesworth]
"The Bruce Partington Plans" [John Hawkesworth]
"Wisteria Lodge" [Jeremy Paul]
"The Hound of the Baskervilles" [Trevor Bowen] [2hr]

THE CASE-BOOK OF SHERLOCK HOLMES [1990]

"The Creeping Man" [Robin Chapman]
"The Illustrious Client" [Robin Chapman]
"The Problem of Thor Bridge" [Jeremy Paul]
"The Boscombe Valley Mystery" [John Hawkesworth]
"Shoscombe Old Place" [Gary Hopkins]
"The Disappearance of Lady Frances Carfax [T.R. Bowen]

aired in the UK, but not on PBS:

"The Master Blackmailer" [Jeremy Paul] [1991]
(adaptation of "The Adventure of Charles Augustus Milverton")

They began filming in May on "The Red Circle".

Trivia:
Anybody else notice that the Granada Mycroft is Charles Gray, the
*same* actor who played Mycroft in THE SEVEN PER CENT SOLUTION?

--Kathy Li, aka the Rev. Mom
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------------------------| "...[Costner] is brilliant as Robin Hood, and I'm
kathyli@sdcrsi.cray.com |  afraid Alan Rickman, who plays the Sheriff, is
------------------------| *appalling*." ---Jeremy Brett, ANGLOFILE vol.4, no.2
From: hhtra@usho21.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.holmes
Subject: Re: Conan Doyle and Piltdown
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:42:33 GMT
Organization: Chevron


 But wasn't Sir Arthur Conan Doyle involved in some other hoax concerning
 2 young girls and fairies?

 I think I read about it in the book FLIM FLAM MAN by the guy who
 goes around debunking psychics and spiritualists and such -
 The Amazing Randy.
From: koumis@husc4.harvard.edu (Anthony Koumis)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.holmes
Subject: Re: Shocked...
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:17:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Sep9.163035.15364@nntp.uoregon.edu> eric_gorr@coglab_psych.uoregon.edu (Eric Gorr) writes:
>Well, after exhausting all of the interesting (IMHO) SF books, I decided to
>start reading mysteries and felt that there was no better place to start
>then with the master himself.  
>
>When you first started to read holmes, were you as shocked as I was that he
>was a drug user (cocane and morphine) in the novel The Sign Of Four?  
>
>This totally blew my whole conception of the man when I read it.  
>
>Yes, I am aware that there is either very little or no mention of it in
>later novels and stories - allowing us to assume that he "kicked" the
>habit.  Thank goodness.  Did Arthur Conan Doyle use drugs at one time? 
>What that the reason for the appearence in the novel?
>
>




The 19th C. wasnt involved in the war of drugs.  I believe
They were all legal - though not all respecatabel , look at the
opium dens in Holmes.
Opium was a huge trade item -- witness Britain going to war
with china twice (the first and second opium wars) to ensure a
market.  (the wars I believe were in the 1850s).  Read the _Book
of LIsts_ for some lists of famous drug takers.  Queen Victoira
was supposedly hooked on morphia.  :-)
From: Chuck.Lavazzi@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Chuck Lavazzi)
Subject: Canonical publications (was:Re: Baker Street Irregulars)
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:55:17 GMT

In article <19920910084552ECZ5SER@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU> ECZ5SER@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Mike Randall) writes:
>
[...]
>Does anyone know of any other good Holmes magazines or journals?
	As it turns out, the BSJ always provides a list of Sherlockian
Periodicals Received at the back of each issue.  This would be a good source
of such information.
	There are a mind-boggling number of Sherlockian newsletters,
magazines, and so on in the USA alone, of varying qualiity.


Chuck
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From: jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez)
Subject: Re: Shocked...
Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics, Cambridge, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 06:25:55 GMT

Eric Gorr writes:

>I never once said that I didn't understand all of this or would stop
>reading Holmes because of it.  I just shocked me...that is all...nothing
>more, nothing less.

>But if you are interested, I am totally against the use of illegal drugs,
>like cocaine, as all rational people should be.

"As all rational people should be," eh?  Good thing our government in
its wisdom has made illegal precisely those drugs that all rational
people should be totally against.  Really, if you intend to further
the war on drugs why don't you do it on alt.drugs, where there are
hordes in need of your penetrating reasoning, rather than on this
newsgroup?
 
Okay - while I haven't read all the articles yet, I will risk pointing
out that Jeremy Brett's wife died after the first batch of Holmes
shows was made.  This might account for someone's observation that he
looked older in the second batch.



.



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From: dsmythe@netcom.com (Dave Smythe)
Subject: Re: Nicholas Meyer
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 06:46:06 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Sep10.001350.6263@zip.eecs.umich.edu> stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame) writes:
>In article <mxsna9m.dsmythe@netcom.com> dsmythe@netcom.com (Dave Smythe) writes:
>>What do you folks think of Nicholas Meyer's books?
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  OOPS!

>>The ones I can remember (coorect me if I'm wrong):
>>
>>"The Private Life of John H. Watson"
>
>Hmmmm . . . I've never seen the third one myself but I'll admit I haven't
>been watching that closely.

Mistake.  The author is Michael Hardwick and the real title is:
"The Private Life of Dr. Watson."  The author is well known, so
I gather, for other SH contributions.  The book is an "autobiography"
and covers a lot of ground (literally -- America, Australia,
Afghanistan, etc.).  I enjoyed it...

D

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From: ztsindi@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (The Independents - SUNY Buffalo)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.holmes
Subject: Oh Joy! A Holmes group!
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:50:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	What a pleasent surprise I received today when I went to
VNEWS and was asked if I wanted to subscribe to alt.fan.holmes! 
I've just recently 'discovered' the canon. Odd that Sherlock is
such a part of our cultural heritage yet I haven't actually read
the stories till now. What a strange coincidence that I should start
reading the stories almost exactly one hundred years from there 
writing. The stories have a strangely contemporary air to them in
many ways, like Watson's military experience in Afganistan, a 
country again embroiled in war in our times. 
	The A&E series is wonderful IMHO. Brett is remarkably close
to my mental image of Holmes looks and mannerisms. Is that just me
or is Brett such a method actor that he BECOMES Holmes? Did he
'read up' on Sherlock before playing him? Also, is the series big
in England? The stories themselves have always been popular here in
the U.S., are they popular in the heart of the British Empire?
							- Joseph
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From: tssmith@netcom.com (Tim Smith)
Subject: Re: A&E Sherlock Holmes Week
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 17:25:36 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Sep9.161736.19248@samba.oit.unc.edu> Chuck.Lavazzi@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Chuck Lavazzi) writes:
>In article <1992Sep9.141721.8209@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> tom@arthur.jsc.nasa.gov (Tom Robinson) writes:
>>For all of you rabid Sherlock Holmes fans out there -- this week the A&E
>>network is running Sherlock Holmes EVERY night.  I've always though that
>>Jeremy Brett is the quintessential Holmes... opinions?
>>
>	Well, I don't know about "quintessential"; he's certainly one of
>the better ones to hit the screen, although for me the strongest things
>about the Granada adaptations have been the production values and the actors
>who have played Watson.  IMHO, Brett has tended to play Holmes as just a wee
>bit too eccentric.

Agree, one of the better Holmes'.  Strongly agree on the production
values.  Every time I watch one of these shows I marvel at the care
that the art directors, costume people, etc. have taken with the
production.  They are a feast for the eyes.  Wonderful, simply
wonderful!

Disagree on eccentric.  Holmes is nothing if not eccentric.

>	The quality of the writing on the Grenada series has been pretty
>variable, by the way.  They've done some particularly fine adaptations ("The
>Solitary Cyclist" comes to mind) and some real stinkers as well.  I was
>*very* disappointed by their version of "Lady Francis Carfax", which just
>appeared on PBS this past week.  It was about an non-canonical as you could
>get and didn't improve on the original in any way that I could see.

Exactly.  It was very disappointing.  There seems to be a gap between
the "earlier" Jeremy Brett shows (hair slicked back, Jeremy looks much
younger) and the later ones (older-looking Holmes, hair a bit mussed).
The two shows that seem to fall into the latter category are the
"Hound..." and "The Disappearance...".  Am I wrong? Others?


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From: brian_vickers@isd.jpl.nasa.gov (Brian Vickers)
Subject: List of Brett episodes
Followup-To: alt.fan.holmes
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:10:35 GMT


Can anyone provide the group (and me) with a list of episodes that Jeremy
Brett has done? I have most on tape but I know I have missed some. If you
have this information, it might be good if you grouped it by season (or
year) in preparation for a FAQ (if this group lasts that long).

-- Brian
brian_vickers@isd.jpl.nasa.gov
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From: kencham@ulysses.cs.umn.edu (Deepak)
Subject: Re: So, which Holmes is it?
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:52:04 GMT

In article <BuCnsy.A2s@knot.ccs.queensu.ca>, linley@qucis.queensu.ca (Richard Linley) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep9.232004.20140@news2.cis.umn.edu> kencham@ulysses.cs.umn.edu (Deepak) writes:
|> >
|> 
|> For me, the whole gay issue is a non-starter.  Much better to calculate
|> SH's age, debate the accuracy of his traditionally-celebrated birthdate,
|> ponder the possibility that the post-Moriarty Holmes was a different man
|> altogether, discuss ACD's knowledge (?) of horse racing, and other good
|> stuff like that.
|> 
|> IMHO, of course.
|> 
|> 	Richard.
|> 

Okay !!!!! For starters, here are a couple of Qs. about him

a. What's SH's full name ?
b. SH claims to be related to a famous painter. Name him
c. Holmes was married. ( Yup ! Its implied ). Can you give the approx.
   period when he got married ( i.e before _Study in Scarlet_, between
   the Watson years,or later ..). If anyone knows his wife's name or her
   whereabouts, please expound ..... (I dunno :( )
d. Which of the short stories, was ACD's personal favorites ?


Can think of just these, off hand. More later, if there is enough 
interest.

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From: bgrubb@dante.nmsu.edu (GRUBB)
Subject: Sir Arthur Conan Doyle and Sherlock Holmes
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 04:26:48 GMT

I found a book that others here might find intresting; it is called
The Real World of Sherlock Holmes  The true crimes investigated by
Arthur Conan Doyle by Peter Costello  (ISBN 0-88184-738-0).
As the title suggest this book includes cases done by Sir Arthur
Conan Doyle in the vein of Sherlock Holmes.  While the presentation
of some of the cases is shallow(the Jack the Ripper case)others are
very well written(the George Edalji case).
Since the book is an synopsises of the real cases of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
it lacks the depth of his stories but has the advantage of an extensive
bibliography set out by chapter so that the cases can be studied in depth
if the reader so desires.

If the STORIES of Sherlock Holmes are more to your taste I would 
recomend the very well written -The Annotated Sherlock Holmes- edited by
William S. Baring-Gould (ISBN 0-517-502917).  This book also contains
details on Baker Street, Who Holmes was, and tries to put the cases into
a chronological order for those who believe in Holmes as a real person.

Just something I though you would like to know.

"Eliminate the impossible and what ever remains, no matter how improble,
is the truth" -- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle through Sherlock Holmes
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From: Chuck.Lavazzi@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Chuck Lavazzi)
Subject: The Master on Film (was: Re: A&E Sherlock Holmes Week)
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 18:08:38 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.061539.1228@ultb.isc.rit.edu> rxv9839@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>Surely Basil Rathbone has Jeremy beat by a country mile, or at least
>several hundred feet.
	Well, it's a matter of taste, of course.  Rathbone was a fine actor and
commanding screen presence but his films were hampered (as I noted earlier) by
bonehead scripts and the embarrassing work of Nigel Bruce as Watson (in all
fairness to Bruce, this was just his standard "schtick"; the real culprits
are the Hollywood types who cast him).
	Brett is probably closer to the Canonical Holmes in that he's more
obviously eccentric (although he pushes it a bit much for my taste) but seems
a bit lacking in stature (physical and otherwise) and warmth.  We know from
the Canon that Holmes was quite capable of compassion and wit; I think these
factors have been downplayed a bit too much.  But again, it's largely a matter
of individual preference.
	There have been other fine Holmes portrayls on film.  I mentioined
John Neville's fine work in the 1965 "Study in Terror" earlier.  There's
also admirable work from Ian Richardson in two British made-for-TV movies 
from 1983-84: "The Hound of the Baskervilles" and "The Sign of Four", both of
which also benefit from excellent production values and fairly intelligent
scripts.  And many Sherlockians also swear by Ellie Norwood, in a series of
early British films.
Chuck
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From: misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel)
Subject: Watson's marriages
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 20:40:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.134206.8782@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Chuck.Lavazzi@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Chuck Lavazzi) writes:
> In article <boh.716098226@sfu.ca>, boh@fraser.sfu.ca (Changhao Boh) writes:

>> But where is there mention of his 2nd marriage ?
>
> The business of the second Mrs. Watson is more implied than explicit
> in the Canon.

   The reference is in "The Blanched Soldier", narrated by Holmes and
set "shortly after the conclusion of the Boer War".  Holmes says:
"The good doctor had at that time deserted me for a wife, the only
selfish action I can recall in the history of our acquaintance."

   Watson had previously mentioned the death of his wife Mary Morstan
in "The Empty House":  "In some manner he had learned of my own sad
bereavement..."

   (The above quotations are not accurate -- I'm quoting from memory.)

   I think Doyle intended only one marriage, but commentators looking
at the confused chronology have postulated as many as 6 marriages.
Pretty silly, really.

misrael@csi.uottawa.ca			Mark Israel
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