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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 11:21:00 EDT
From:         Ron Johnston <ADLB001@MVS.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      conversion to ASCII
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The following line in program LCN070B accomplishes the conversion from EBCDIC to
ASCII.  It immediately precedes label A100.  The MOVE macro will generate
TRanslate instruction(s) due to the I=TR parameter.

         MOVE  (R8),(R1),(15),I=TR

Ron Johnston  McGill University Libraries  Montreal Quebec

voice:        (514) 398-4797               S/390        ES/9000-320
fax:          (514) 398-7356               MVS/XA       CICS 1.7
internet:     ADLB001@MVS.MCGILL.CA        NOTIS 4.6.1 (5.0 in test)
bitnet:       ADLB001@MCGILLVS             GTO 2-Utlas  3-Bibliofile
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 13:00:04 CST
From:         Carolyn Kacena <VB7R1001@SMUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      AMIGOS NOTIS Users - Texas NOTIS Users' Group

AMIGOS NOTIS customers are invited to an informal meeting of the
Texas NOTIS Users' Group on Wednesday, May 13th, 6-8 p.m.  The meeting
will be in two parts:
1.
General discussion of PACLink interests in Texas and the region - local
reports; NOTIS 5.0.2 OPAC changes: pro & con; and, if Anne Highsmith is
there and willing, implications of MARC Integration on the NOTIS products
from the MARBI perspective.
2.
Then, informal discussion groups based on functions...who's doing what and
what problems/challenges have you overcome within these functional modules.

We had Stuart Miller at the official Texas NOTIS Users' Group meeting during
TLA, Houston, Friday, April 10.  There will not be a NOTIS Systems
representative unless someone writes me REAL SOON with a SPECIFIC ISSUE for
NSI to address in this meeting...generally we will wait until the Fall
AMIGOS meeting to invite NOTIS to be represented.  FYI, that will be on
November 18th.

Rooms had not yet been assigned; however, the AMIGOS conference information
desk staff are always able to give up-to-date information to attendees.  I
hope to see many of the Texas and regional members in Dallas in May.
Special note to TEXAS folks:  Please e-mail or send me an up-to-date list
of your LIB1 & TECH1 contact personnel for mailings about the November agenda.
Thanks...

Carolyn Kacena   (Chair, Texas NOTIS Users' Group)
Director, Academic Support Automation
Fondren Library East 328
Southern Methodist University
Dallas, TX 75275-0135

(214) 692-3229             FAX: (214) 360-0609 or (214) 692-4138
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Internet: VB7R1001@vm.cis.smu.edu.
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 14:16:00 EDT
From:         bryan@WILEY.CSUSB.EDU
Subject:      Re: Retention information

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Bev Ryan
CSU, San Bernardino
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:31:00 EDT
From:         "Darren.Meahl" <20676DOC@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      MDAS hook to holdings

Can the MDAS hook to holdings work if MDAS is running in a separate CICS
region?

Darren Meahl
LIB1
Michigan State University
20676doc@msu.edu
20676doc@msu.bitnet
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 11:58:38 EDT
From:         Lydia Pettis <LRP@CORNELLC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: A Group by any name smells.....

Here is my understanding of bill and fine payment groups. They replace
part of the 4.6 location table LOCC function.

In 4.6 our Africana Library, for instance, had LOCC=AFRC defined for
each of their locations. This pointed to the LOCC section of the table
where the circulation values were defined...billing group, home service
unit, search parms. The billing group portion of this section might be
BGRP='A'. This BGRP code, in turn, was used in the security tables with
RECORD=BILL...CODES='A' to indicate that, in this example, our Africana
security sign-ons could post payment to Africana related bills.

In LSYS I have defined the bf payment groups to use the same codes as
were used in 4.6 LOCC=. That is, I have define AFRC as a payment group
with the Africana locations assigned to it.

The place where this code is used then, in LSYS, is in the work unit
security section where you define the bill and fine payment groups
this particular sign-on can access. The question is, what libraries,
or group of locations, should this staff member be able to update bills
for. We have 16 libraries and an annex. Each of these units has a specific
and discrete set of locations associated with it and we have one bf payment
group defined for each unit. All our security is set up so that individual
library staff members can accept fine payments for their library and the
annex. (On the security page relating to this I would enter the codes
AFRC ANXC). If you are approved to update the bills, the '-' appears on the
bill and fine screen allowing you to <tab> down. If you are not authorized
to access the record no '-' appears and you cannot move inot the body of
the record.

I hope this is what you were trying to figure out. I seem to recall that
I did not understand the documentation either and I approached it on an
intuitive level and thankfully it worked...
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*  Lydia Pettis                    PHONE:  (607) 255-9477   *
*  Programmer/Analyst              BITNET: LRP @ CORNELLC   *
*  501 Olin Library                                         *
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 10:27:23 EST
From:         Tari Keller <KELLER@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Assigning new barcodes

We weren't far enough along to do the requesting, but might consider using
it for materials that are charged to the Bindery Department.  We would
want these to stay charged to that unit until the materials get back to
the owner service units.  Meanwhile, the Binder is removing the old bar code.
The Bindery Department could go ahead and assign the new bar code while the
item is charged to their unit.

We are thinking of charging the materials to the Bindery Department as they are
sent to that unit.  The Bindery Department should be able to anticipate the
need to remove the covers where our bar codes live and add new bar code numbers
to the NOTIS item record as they clip the new bar codes to their "Return From
Binder" slips.  When the book comes back, they put the new bar codes on the
new inside covers and return them to the service unit.  The service unit
discharges the books with the new bar codes.

Maybe there are better uses, but I think this would solve one of our problems.

Tari Keller -- Systems Librarian (LIB1)          UU   UUUUKKKKK  KKKK
University of Kentucky Libraries                 UU   UUUU KKKK KKK
127 King Library North, Lexington, KY  40506     UU   UUU   KKKKKK
(606) 257-2643           FAX (606) 257-8379      UU   UU  0  KK KKK
KELLER@UKCC    INTERNET: KELLER@UKCC.UKY.EDU      UUUUUU     KK  KKKK
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 12:15:07 EDT
From:         Irene Pelak <pelak@PILOT.NJIN.NET>
Subject:      EASYTRIEVE+

I gather EASYTRIEVE+ is an alternative to SAS.  Do a lot of sites use it?
What are its advantages and disadvantage
IRENE PELAK  TECH1  BERGEN COMMUNITY COLLEGE  201-447-9236
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 14:47:00 CST
From:         VAUGHAN@VUCTRVAX.BITNET
Subject:      LB020 problem

   The problem with the worksheets was corrected in 5.0.2.
It doesn't look like you could easily modify an earlier version
of the program. The new version calls a new program in 5.0.2,
but you might check with NOTIS to see if there's anything
else you can do to get it working.

Maryanne Vaughan
Vanderbilt University
VAUGHAN@VUCTRVAX
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 09:41:00 EST
From:         TOM SCHNEITER <SCHNEITE@IUBACS.BITNET>
Subject:      NOTIS workforms

I had a request from one of our service units for information about a NOTIS
item record workform that could include data that is repeated for many
separate items.  Apparently, in a collection in this service unit
circulation is by unlinked item record and all items carry much of the same
bibliographic info. or call numbers.  The staff are seeking ways to avoid
the repetitive keying of the data.

I am not aware of anything in NOTIS that would help them out.  Macro's,
maybe?  Anybody else have ideas?   Thanks, as always.

Tom Schneiter/CIRC1/Asst Head, Access Services
Indiana University Libraries, Bloomington IN 47405
SCHNEITE@IUBACS.BITNET / (812)855-2304
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:54:59 PDT
From:         Jim Cruse <CN.NX8@STANFORD.BITNET>
Subject:      LSYS question

Here's an LSYS question.  Under Work Unit Security, Service Unit
profile, Circulation Request, one of the fields listed for the CHARGE
transaction is  "Accept Payment for Overdue Fines".  Under DISCHARGE
there is a similiar "Accept Overdue Fines".

I know that when an item is discharged, if there is a fine, the
operator can mark if paid/forgiven/error or just let it be posted to
the patron's B&F record.  I assume that this is controlled by the
above parameter under DISCHARGE.

I can't figure out why the similiar parameter exists under CHARGE.  In
those cases where an item is on loan to patron A and patron B brings
it to the desk and a charge is attempted, the operator only sees an
alert that the item is "already charged to another patron, type y to
discharge."  If the operator does type y to discharge from patron A
and complets the charge to patron B, there is no opportunity to pay
the fine as in the DISCHARGE case.  So, what does the "Accept Payment
for Overdue Fines" in the CHARGE transaction do?  What am I missing?


Jim Cruse                          cn.jmc@stanford.bitnet
Assistant Chief                    cn.jmc@forsythe.stanford.edu
Access Services                    FAX:      (415) 725-6874
Stanford University Library        VOICE:    (415) 723-1491

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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 12:50:10 CDT
From:         Mary Burgett <BURGETT@LIBRARY.RICE.EDU>
Subject:      Texas NOTIS Users' Meeting

For those of you who have not left for the Texas Library Assoc. Meeting
yet, I was told by NOTIS that the Texas NOTIS Users' Meeting will be in
Room 304 A-B of the Convention Center tomorrow morning at 7:30 am.

See you there.

Mary Burgett
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 08:11:33 -0500
From:         J-VON@UMINN1.BITNET
Subject:      New Member Orientation

 The CUMREC Member Participation Committee is planning a new member orientation
 session for the upcoming CUMREC conference. I'm interested in hearing from
 anyone--longtime attendees or people who plan to attend for the first time in
 Miami--with suggestions for things to include in that half-hour session.

 Jeff von Munkwitz-Smith
 Membership Participation Committee Chair
 Telephone:  (612) 625-1800
 BITNET:     j-von@uminn1
 Internet:   j-von@vm1.spcs.umn.edu
 Fax:        (612) 624-9584
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:15:09 MST
From:         BOB STRINGFIELD <bstring@MAINZ-EMH2.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Re: INFOR on EUROPE
X-To:         "CUMREC-L Administrative computer use" <CUMREC-L@VM1.NODAK.EDU>
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Ernie -- Passing info on Kidcafe.  Perhaps you can use them to
establish some contacts for your daughter (files passed privately.).
--bob

***********************************************************************
Robert (Bob) L. Stringfield      Mainz Army Depot
UNIT 24218  P.O. Box 52:  APO AE 09185
COML (No ETS or Autovon available): 06131-696328 (Germany)
FAX: 06131-696467
bstring@mainz-emh2.army.mil or bstring%mainz-emh2.army.mil@vm1.nodak.edu
                   Truth:  IGNORANCE hates knowledge....
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 16:45:28 EDT
From:         Janet Terry <TERRYJ@VTVM2.BITNET>
Subject:      records management

I am searching for information on pc packages designed to manage and
maintain vital paper records.  The capabilities for securing access to
the paper records, tracking the records, maintaining an accurate account
of who accessed the records and when, and providing identification for
records which are eligible for destruction are some of the features
that a system to meet our needs must have.  Until it is possible for
us to move into imaging and electronic storage of these records, we
must provide an efficient system to process these records.

If you have any information about such systems, please advise.  Right
now we are in the project definition stage and are considering all
options, so any suggestions will be welcomed.

Thanks in advance......see ya in Miami!

Janet Terry
University Systems Analysis & Services
Virginia Tech
TERRYJ@VTVM2
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:18:00 EST
From:         LEDUCA@FIRNVX.BITNET
Subject:      Conference News Flash

                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:     09-Apr-1992 02:06pm EDT
                                        From:     Albert L. LeDuc
                                                  LEDUCA
                                        Dept:
                                        Tel No:   305/237-2208

TO:  Remote NJE Network User              ( _JNET%CUMREC-L@NDSUVM1 )


Subject: Conference News Flash

Monday afternoon at the CUMREC Conference//this means May 4//between 4:30
and 6:00 pm attendees will have several options.  First of all, there will
be an opportunity for "birds of a feather" sessions, where inidviduals can
reserve a room and host informal discussion sessions.  At present, no
topics are selected, but, for instance, data base administrators have
discussed the possibility of a get-together at that time.
Secondly, a group from Stanford University will have a special live demo of
their student access to information systems.
Third, CAUSE is planning a special focus group meetin to which some CAUSE
members have been invited.
Additionally, we have been asked to see if there would be interest in a
campus tour.  The Wolfson Campus of Miami-Dade Community College is quite
close to the headquarters hotel.  That campus would like to host interested
people during the 4:30-6:00 time period for a guided tour emphasizing the
Phase III plans for that campus.  Those plans imply an electronic campus
for a large new building involving extensive access to information
technology by instructors as well as the construction of 26 multi-media
classrooms.  The proposed tour will include a terrace reception at the
close and you will have plenty of time to return to the hotel for the
Monday night activity.  Interested?  note to CUMREC@FIRNVX.
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 11:37:06 EDT
From:         Earnie Dyke <EARNIE@COMP1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      Appointment Scheduling

    Our Student Health Center is in need of a PC based package that
will allow them to schedule student appointments.  This system should
run under a Novell Network.  Does anyone know of a system that I
could investigate for them?

    Thanks in advance!

    Earnie!


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* Systems Analyst                  *  TSO/E 2.0                     *
* Computer Center                  *  CICS 1.7                      *
* The College of William and Mary  *  DB2 2.2                       *
* PO Box 8795                      *  INQUIRE Release D             *
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 17:22:38 CST
From:         Richard Yantis <MIS0005C@TCUAVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Transfer Transcript Evaluation

On Mon, 6 Apr 1992 10:44:51 EDT Don Dunlap said:
>Here at East Carolina University we are about to begin a major conversion of
>our Student Administration System from a UNISYS 2200 to an IBM ES9000.  We will
>convert from the UNISYS network type database to DB2, using CSP and some tools
>from BACHMAN.  Now, our Admissions Office has asked that we develop a method to
>evaluate transcripts for transfer students.  As we are going to be very busy
>with conversion, we hope there is a way - perhaps software package for a micro
>- to do this easily.  We would also be interested in something that would work
>on the IBM computer.  I certainly would appreciate any ideas or experiences
>that you can share.  My phone number is (919) 757-6401.Please send e-mail or
>call.  Thanks.
>Don

We have looked at a PC transfer equivalency package from Concise Systems Inc.
I understand it was written by David Stones of UT Austin and is being used
at UNC-Charlotte (among other places). You can reach David at (512)244-0556
or (512)471-0281.
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Organization: Emory University - Atlanta, Georgia, USA
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 15:33:13 EDT
From:         NICOLE GREGG <ISNBG@EMUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      IBM TO UNIX

Are there any other University Data Centers considering going from an
IBM mainframe to Unix, and if so where did you start, and how did you
evaluate the feasibility and cost of doing such a migration?

Thank you,
Nicole Gregg                     BITNET: ISNBG@EMUVM1
Student Systems Lead Analyst     PHONE:  (404) 727-2870
Emory University
Atlanta, GA 30322
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 16:07:58 PDT
From:         Audrey Lindsay <USERAMAL@UBCMTSA.BITNET>

  We are looking at ways to improve the utilization of classroom
  space and were wondering if any institutions are charging
  individual Faculties and Departments for the use of classrooms
  for normal credit courses.  Under such a scheme, the funds would be
  distributed to the faculty or department and they would pay
  for rooms based on the criteria such as:  classroom size, features
  and possibly prime or non-prime meeting time.

  Has anyone incorporated a system of charging?  What problems or
  benefits have resulted from this?
  Thanks for any advice that you may provide.

  Audrey Lindsay
  Associate Registrar Systems
  University of British Columbia
  Vancouver, B.C.
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 09:36:00 EST
From:         LEDUCA@FIRNVX.BITNET
Subject:      Conference Hot Flash

                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:     14-Apr-1992 09:31am EDT
                                        From:     Albert L. LeDuc
                                                  LEDUCA
                                        Dept:
                                        Tel No:   305/237-2208

TO:  Remote NJE Network User              ( _JNET%CUMREC-L@NDSUVM1 )


Subject: Conference Hot Flash

The Hotel InterContinental, the CUMREC Conference hotel, is mostly sold out
at this point and some registrants are in the Hyatt Regency.  For those
people, please note that the Hyat Regency Downtown/Knight Center is your
hotel.  It is *not* the Hyatt Regency Coral Gables.  If there is any
cojnfusion about your hotel registration you may contact Jose Toro (305)
237-2703 or Al LeDuc at (305) 237-2208 and we will help you.
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 16:44:51 EDT
From:         NICOLE GREGG <ISNBG@EMUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      FOCUS REPORT WRITER

Here at Emory University, we have purchased FOCUS for end-user ad-hoc
reporting.  Does anyone know of any LISTSERV bulletin boards for sharing
problems with FOCUS, or ideas for using FOCUS?  Also, is anyone else
planning on using the FOCUS gateway for running applications on the PC
which access data on a mainframe?

Thank you,
Nicole Gregg
Lead Analyst, Student Information Systems
Emory University, Atlanta GA 30322
BITNET: ISNBG@EMUVM1     PHONE: (404) 727-2870
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 14:59:00 EST
From:         Karen Lee <DEV_KLEE@JMUVAX1.BITNET>
Subject:      Envelopes in volume

Pitney-Bowes offers high-speed laser-quality envelope
printers that will also print the postal net barcode.  They
can operate from the vendor's PC system or from your mini
or mainframe if programmed properly.  University of the
South currently uses this solution using an HP3000 running
Software Research Northwest XRM software.  JMU hopes to
do this soon also.

Hope this helps what you are needing at Colby College!
---------------------------------------------------------
Karen Lee                      BITNET: dev_klee@jmuvax1
Administrative Computing
James Madison University       phone: 703/568-3891
Harrisonburg, VA 22807
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 10:44:51 EDT
From:         Don Dunlap <CISDON@ECUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Transfer Transcript Evaluation

Here at East Carolina University we are about to begin a major conversion of
our Student Administration System from a UNISYS 2200 to an IBM ES9000.  We will
convert from the UNISYS network type database to DB2, using CSP and some tools
from BACHMAN.  Now, our Admissions Office has asked that we develop a method to
evaluate transcripts for transfer students.  As we are going to be very busy
with conversion, we hope there is a way - perhaps software package for a micro
- to do this easily.  We would also be interested in something that would work
on the IBM computer.  I certainly would appreciate any ideas or experiences
that you can share.  My phone number is (919) 757-6401.Please send e-mail or
call.  Thanks.
Don
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