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From: bryanf@hpmcaa (Bryan Ford)
Subject: Re: Smalltalk for Amiga?
Organization: HP Cardiology Business Unit - McMinnville, OR
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 21:56:08 GMT

jmrg9881@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon Reid) writes:
> Is there such a thing?

Sure, it's called "GNU Smalltalk", and it's in an alpha-release stage I
think at this point, it's available on alpha.gnu.ai.mit.edu last I looked,
and I can't remember having any major problems compiling it with Markus
Wild's GCC port.  It was somewhat unreliable, but that's to be expected
from alpha-test software.  In any case, it works.

				Bryan

bryanf@hpmcaa.mcm.hp.com
From: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (rock)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: ClearEOL and SetAPen 
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 19:17:18 EDT
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RJ>From: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
RJ>	For a comparison, in 1.3 SetAPen (et al) took roughly 1400 68000
RJ>cycles to do.  In 2.0, if I remember correctly, they take ~200-700 cycle
RJ>depending on drawmode/etc.  (I did the first cut at optimization of them
RJ>back in the early 1.4 days, later redone by Bart for a few more cycles.)
RJ>

Hmm, the way I understand what you're saying, each call the SetB or SetA or
drawmode, they re-calc the miniterms each time.  Would it then be
acceptable to change the values in the Rport structure for the drawmode and
Bpen manually, then called SetAPen() to collate it all, or is this an evil
thing to do?  (Would it even work, much less be system friendly?)

"Sometimes what you say is going to get right in the faces of the powerful
 people who really run this world, but you don't care....  You know it's
 your place to challenge authority...."

Rockerboy, digital artiste' (rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us)
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From: addison@pollux.usc.edu (Richard Addison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Yet Another SAS/C thread
Date: 31 Aug 1992 15:36:48 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu

In <Btuno8.L61@unx.sas.com> walker@twix.unx.sas.com (Doug Walker) writes:
>In article <la2ipoINNsk6@pollux.usc.edu>, addison@pollux.usc.edu (Richard Addison) writes:
>|> Does the builtin memcmp() work in all cases?  It generally creates code

>Yes, it does.  This sounds like something that should have been reported
>to technical support; did you do this?

Sorry for the confusion.  I was typing this from memory, and it didn't come
out just right.

The bug no longer exists in 5.10b.  It did exist in 5.05, however.

Just for the curious, here is a call to memcmp() and the code generated by
5.05 as reported by omd:

; 916:	 if (memcmp(mid, mend->P, mlen) >= 0)
       | 0EA6  2006			      MOVE.L	D6,D0
       | 0EA8  2B48 FFFC		      MOVE.L	A0,FFFC(A5)
       | 0EAC  2252			      MOVEA.L	(A2),A1
       | 0EAE  6004			      BRA.B	0EB4
       | 0EB0  1218			      MOVE.B	(A0)+,D1
       | 0EB2  B219			      CMP.B	(A1)+,D1
       | 0EB4  56C8 FFFA		      DBNE	D0,0EB0
       | 0EB8  6D04			      BLT.B	0EBE

Here is the same call and the code generated by 5.10b as reported by omd:

; 916:	 if (memcmp(mid, mend->P, mlen) >= 0)
       | 0EBA  2006			      MOVE.L	D6,D0
       | 0EBC  2B48 FFFC		      MOVE.L	A0,FFFC(A5)
       | 0EC0  2252			      MOVEA.L	(A2),A1
       | 0EC2  B341			      EOR.W	D1,D1
       | 0EC4  6004			      BRA.B	0ECA
       | 0EC6  1218			      MOVE.B	(A0)+,D1
       | 0EC8  B219			      CMP.B	(A1)+,D1
       | 0ECA  56C8 FFFA		      DBNE	D0,0EC6
       | 0ECE  6D04			      BLT.B	0ED4

Note that 5.10b includes "EOR.W D1,D1" in order to set the zero flag so that
when "DBNE D0,..." is first executed, it does not exit the loop early.  Those
of you with sharp eyes will notice that I had "DBEQ" in my earlier post by
accident.

Anyway, that bug is no longer, it has shuffled off this mortal coil, it is
pushing up the daisies, it is an ex-bug.

Sorry for dragging it up unnecessarily.

-- 
Richard

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: mike@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Smithwick)
Subject: manx and asl problems
Organization: SF-Bay Public-Access Unix
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 22:02:59 GMT



[]

I am having some problems with the ASL file requester, in that calls
to AllocAslRequest() crash as if the function doesn't exist.  I have been
using AllocFileRequest up until now, but that is being8]xD
phased out.

Does this sound familiar?? The offset for AllocAslRequest() is given to
be 0x30 in the pragmas file, perhaps this is wrong.

mike


-- 
"There is no problem too big that can't be solved with high explosives"-Rush

Mike Smithwick - ames!zorch!mike
From: jamie@cdevil.unx.sas.com (James Cooper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: SAS/C patches.
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:19:03 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Originator: jamie@cdevil.unx.sas.com


In article <1992Aug27.072731.28563@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>, peteru@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU writes:
>In article <BtLEoF.22s@unx.sas.com> walker@twix.unx.sas.com (Doug Walker) writes:
>> There is a patch to the V5.10 CPR 
>
>Where does one get generaly patches for SAS/C? I hope that it doesn't work
>on the principle - you have a problem, you ring SAS, they send you a fix.
>
>I am hoping that there are/will be binary patches available on FTP sites
>to fix up problems.
>
>Alternatively SAS should send them out every couple of months, if they do
>not think that making them available for FTP is a good idea.

You should be able to get specific patches through our new EMITS setup,
as soon as everything is put in place.

EMITS is documented in the V6.0 manuals.

We have not put them up for general FTP access before, but I don't know
about future plans in this area.

-- 
---------------
Jim Cooper
(jamie@unx.sas.com)                             bix: jcooper

Any opinions expressed herein are mine (Mine, all mine!  Ha, ha, ha!),
and not necessarily those of my employer.
From: marco@hpsmeng1.rose.hp.com (Marco Mileto)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:07:44 GMT
Subject: Booting WB1.2/1.3 on 68000/030?
Organization: SMO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer

Hello,

I am trying to set up my system to be able to boot up under WB2.04, WB1.3 
and WB1.2 in either 68000 or 68030 mode (I own an A2500).  My intention
is to be able to use some of the old games I have which only work on the
older O.S.'s and/or only with a 68000 CPU.  I have WB2.04 installed and
it's working fine.

Currently using SetCPU I am able to boot off of a floppy into WB1.3
and WB1.2 on the 68030 but I can't boot into 1.3/1.2 using the 68000 (SetCPU
won't perform a "kickrom" when using the 68000).

I would also like to move KICKSTART 1.3/1.2 onto my hard drive as files since
SetCPU seems capable of being able to boot the system this way.

If you have any ideas or suggestions I would appreciate them.

Thanks,

Marco

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From: faber@loon.cs.wisc.edu (Ted Faber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Disk Problem Solved!
Summary: FixDisk Saves the day
Keywords: FixDisk
Date: 27 Aug 92 02:19:58 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences


	Thanks to everyone who replied with help to my disk troubles.  FixDisk 
	(on a Fish Disk and a comp.binaries.amiga archive) saved the day,
	and even fixed a few other lingering troubles of mine.  Thanks
	again to everyone who helped, the net really is a friendly place.


"It is a rather pleasant experience to be alone in a bank at night."
   -- Willie Sutton

-- 
Ted Faber		Figment at Large		  faber@loon.cs.wisc.edu
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From: jamie@cdevil.unx.sas.com (James Cooper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: C= installer ?  Re: SAS/C 6.0
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:13:38 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Originator: jamie@cdevil.unx.sas.com


In article <1992Aug28.182819.14524@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, kaarts@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Kenneth John Aarts) writes:
>In <Btp8F8.LJt@unx.sas.com> jamie@cdevil.unx.sas.com (James Cooper) writes:
>
>What is Commodore's installer?  Thanks,

It is a new installation program which developers can license from
Commodore.  Several programs have already been distributed with this
program as the main installation program, and many more should use it in
the future.

-- 
---------------
Jim Cooper
(jamie@unx.sas.com)                             bix: jcooper

Any opinions expressed herein are mine (Mine, all mine!  Ha, ha, ha!),
and not necessarily those of my employer.
From: forgeas@swinjm.UUCP (Jean-Michel Forgeas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: ARexx function libraries and per-process data
Date: 3 Sep 92 10:43:47 GMT
Reply-To: cbmvax!cbmehq!cbmfra!swinjm!forgeas (Jean-Michel Forgeas)
Organization: The Software Winery
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 alpha rel2

In article <dej.01e3@qpoint.ocunix.on.ca>, David Jones writes:

> I need to create an ARexx function library.  Sounds simple, except:

Perhaps it doesn't worth it. Look at "Rxgen" from Francois Rouaix
on the Fish disk #459. This allows you to call any function of
any Amiga library from an ARexx program.

Best regards
    Jean-Michel
--
Jean-Michel Forgeas         uunet!cbmvax!cbmehq!cbmfra!swinjm!forgeas
4 rue du General Leclerc                       __
95210 Saint Gratien, France                    \/
From: lordbah@amusing.Bah.Rochester.NY.US (Jeff Van Epps)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: SAS 5.10 fopen weirdness
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Distribution: world
Reply-To: lordbah@amusing.Bah.Rochester.NY.US
Date: 30 Aug 92 21:19:31 EDT
Organization: Bah's News Club

I'm seeing bizarre behavior from fopen() in SAS 5.10.  Trying to open an
unwritable file for writing, I expected an error.  Instead the file is
deleted, then created (as shown by snoopdos).  I consider this just plain
wrong.	It's certainly counter-intuitive, contrary to what UNIX does, and
it doesn't say in the manual that it will do this.

Anyone know why, or if a new version fixes it, or (better yet) if there is
a FREE bug fix?

================ EXAMPLE ==============================

[Temporary:]: ll unwrite
-----r-ed	1	 0  Aug 30 20:33  unwrite
[Temporary:]: cat foo.c
#include <stdio.h>

main()
{
FILE *fp;
extern int errno;

if ( ( fp = fopen( "unwrite", "w" ) ) == NULL )
	{
	perror( "unwrite" );
	printf( "open failed, errno %d\n", errno );
	}
else
	{
	printf( "open succeeded?!?\n" );
	fclose( fp );
	}
}
[Temporary:]: ll unwrite
-----rwed	1	 0  Aug 30 20:36  unwrite
[Temporary:]: chmod -d unwrite
[Temporary:]: ll unwrite
-----rwe-	1	 0  Aug 30 20:36  unwrite
[Temporary:]: foo
open failed, errno 2

unwrite: No such file or directory
[Temporary:]: ll unwrite
-----rwe-	1	 0  Aug 30 20:36  unwrite

====================================================

--------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jeff Van Epps    uunet!amusing!lordbah
                     lordbah@amusing.Bah.Rochester.NY.US
From: clin@zeus.calpoly.edu (Chihtsung Jeffrey Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: GCC and GNU? What are they?
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:29:22 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

Helwo,

Does anybody know what GCC and GNU stands for? What knid of organizations
are they? How do they make money? Do they take from the rich and give to the
poor?

Jeff :)
From: brianr@tekig1.PEN.TEK.COM (Brian E Rhodefer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Smalltalk for Amiga?
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:36:07 GMT
Reply-To: brianr@tekig1.pen.tek.com
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: na
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <Btwrx8.L2p@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jmrg9881@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon Reid) writes:
>Is there such a thing?
>

If there were, would anyone use AREXX?


Brian Rhodefer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: chanson@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Hanson)
Subject: Re: SASC 6.0
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 06:26:57 GMT

jamie@cdevil.unx.sas.com (James Cooper) writes:
>In article <25440014@hpsad.sad.hp.com>, paulc@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Paul Christensen X3073) writes:
>>How about code probe? 
>CodePRobe has changed a *lot*!  What do you want to know?
>...
>What else would you like to know?

  Does it crash less? ;) I've recently discovered a tendency for CPR to up and
exit completely if I try to examine some exotic variables from outside a
function's scope... But I presume you've noticed this long before I...

>Jim Cooper
>(jamie@unx.sas.com)                             bix: jcooper
   Chris - Xenon
--
#define chanson Christopher_Eric_Hanson || Lord_Xenon || Kelson_Haldane 
I work, but you don't know who I work for. And I'm not on their machines.
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::I'm chanson@isis.cs.du.edu || chris@kessner.denver.co.us
From: scroll@sparky.cis.ufl.edu (Steve Croll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Assembler programming.
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:26:29 GMT
Reply-To: scroll@sparky.cis.ufl.edu (Steve Croll)
Organization: U of Florida. Computer Science Dept.

In article <1992Aug21.220718.24365@jato.jpl.nasa.gov>, jdickson@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Jeff Dickson) writes:
|> I stand corrected. Quite unnerving to think that in situations where address
|> register indirect with index type addressing is used (i.e. null terminating
|> a string: move.b #0,(a0,d0.w) ) requires an additional memory read _just_
|> to find out that the displacement value wasn't given (zero). 

Actually, the length of the instruction (on a 68000) does not depend on 
the value of the displacement; there is no additional memory read.
Example:

00000000  13BC 0000 1000              1         move.b #0,0(a1,d1.w)
00000006  13BC 0000 107F              2         move.b #0,127(a1,d1.w)

--
Steve Croll (internet: scroll@sparky.cis.ufl.edu  office: 904-392-1507)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: walker@twix.unx.sas.com (Doug Walker)
Subject: Re: Precompiled Header Prob
Originator: walker@twix.unx.sas.com
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:14:28 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


In article <BtLE5u.1H6@unx.sas.com>, walker@twix.unx.sas.com (Doug Walker) writes:
|> Here's some examples of definitions:
|> 
|>    struct Gadget Gadget0;
|>    int func(int x, char *y);
|> 
|> Here's some examples of declarations:
|> 
|>    extern struct Gadget Gadget0;
|>    int func(int x, char *y)
|>    {
|>       return(0);
|>    }

No! Wait! I reversed the declaration and the definition for the 
function!  Don't send me mail!  Please!  (Thanks Dan Barrett for
pointing this out before I got deluged.)

You can have function prototypes in precompiled header files, 
but not function definitions.  All data items have an implied
"extern" in front of them.

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Any opinions expressed are mine, not those of SAS Institute, Inc.
From: rjw@merlin.cvs.rochester.edu (Robert Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: gameport device vs. input device
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:40:32 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester, Rochester NY

I'm trying to use the input device to pick up character input, and the 
gameport device to pick up mouse input from both ports.  This is for a 
psych. experiment, so the gameports have to be on equal standing: hence
my need for using the gameport device.

Unfortunately, the input device seems to be making things difficult for
the gameport device.

** My question: is it possible to make the input device unaware of the 
gameports?  I want all mouse events to go the gameport device, and only
to the gameport device.

This is all nasty, and un-Amiga-ish, but this is an experiment, so no 
other programs will be running concurrently.

-Robert
 rjw@cvs.rochester.edu
From: mcuddy@fensende.Rational.COM (Mike Cuddy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Double buffering and flicker..
Summary: WaitBOVP is bad, but WaitTOF flickers?
Keywords: WaitBOVP() and WaitTOF()...
Date: 27 Aug 92 05:45:18 GMT

I've got some double buffer routines that I'm putting the final touches
on, but I can't seem to grok what's wrong with the page-flip routine:
In short, I'm using 'view-swapping' (i.e.: two copper lists, one view, and
LoadView()), and just before I do the LoadView(), I do a WaitTOF().  
Unfortunately, when I do this, the double buffering flickers like mad!
(The graphics can't be seen while they're being drawn, so I know I'm
drawing on the right page...)

The catch is, when I use WaitBOVP() with the last ViewPort in my view, 
everything works fine. But, according to the RKM, WaitBOVP() busy waits, 
and that's bad. (I'm trying to be system friendly!)

*HELP*

BTW: I'm on a 68040 based system (RCS FF40), and I thought that the extra
speed might have something to do with it (trying to display more than 60FPS)
but the tearing happens in 68K mode also.

--Mike Cuddy (mcuddy@rational.com, fensende!mcuddy@apple.com)
To Anachreon in Heav'n/Where he sat in full glee/A few sons of harmony sent a 
petition/That he them inspi-re and patron would be/When this answer arrived/
from the jolly old Grecian/"Boys fiddle and flute,/no longer be mute,/
I'll lend 'ye my name/And inspire ya' ta' boot/And besides I'll instruct 'ye/
like me, to entwine/ the Myrtle of Venus with Bacchus' vine!
-- sing to the tune of the star spangled banner... (these are the orig words,
yes folks, our national anthem is a ``let's get drunk and F*** song'').
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: barrett@snoopy.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: SimpleRexx 2.0
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:42:56 GMT
Reply-To: barrett@snoopy.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Organization: BLAZEMONGER INCORPORATED

>In article <1992Aug27.120316.2063@cas.org> vjh21@cas.org (Vince Herried) writes:
>>The native developers disks were screwed up, the invoice said it was
>>supposed to be 2.04 but the disks were all 1.3  Sigh...
>>I'm probably out $20.00 plus shipping.

	Why?  Just call Commodore's main number, ask for Department C, and
explain the problem.  I have dealt with Department C, and they are very
friendly and helpful.  My AREXX guide arrived without a disk.  I called
and left a message on their voice mail.  30 minutes later, I got a call
back, and the problem got solved -- they sent me a disk which arrived
2 days later.

In article <1992Aug27.173706.25284@news.acns.nwu.edu> vsanchez@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Victor Sanchez) writes:
>I have a similar problem. I received the 2.0 Native developers disks
>but did not receive the AREXX guide. Can anybody provide me with a 
>phone number for Dept. C to inquire?

	The book was backordered for several weeks.  I got my copy about
6 weeks after my 2.0 Native Developer's kit arrived.

	Just call Commodore's general number (it's in the 215 area code)
and ask for Department C.

                                                        Dan

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: apel@physik.uni-kl.de (Martin Apel (SAGA))
Subject: Re: Testing a custom trap handler
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 11:39:50 GMT

s442013@nexus.yorku.ca (Ray Frederick) writes:
: I have a custom trap handler that I would like to test in Supervisor Mode 
: on my A3000. I am using Powervisor to step through the code but as soon as
: I move the address of the handler to tc_TrapData, the computer executes
: the code and stops at the RTE. In order to step through the trap handler
: I would like to put my User program in Supervisor mode so I have access to
: the usp and other privileged instructions. I'm also hoping this will allow
: me to step through the code.
: 
: Basically, I would like to set bit 13 of the SR from a user program so
: it will have Supervisor access to the instructions.
: 
: Also, are there any other debugging tools that I can use on 680x0 code?
: I use Powervisor and Monitor 1.54.
: 
: 
: Ray.
:  

As far as I know, there's no task-switching in supervisor mode, so you
can't use a debugger for debugging supervisor mode programs. It simply 
wouldn't run until the processor is out of supervisor mode.
--
Reachable as:				I do hate sums. There is no greater
apel@gypsy.physik.uni-kl.de		mistake than to call arithmetic an
(Martin Apel)				exact science. There are .. hidden
					laws of number which it requires a
					mind like mine to perceive. For
					instance, if you add a sum from the
					bottom up, and then again from the 
					top down, the result is always
					different.
From: paulk@terapin.com (Paul Kienitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: benchmarks: SAS 6.0 vs Aztec 5.2b
Date: 1 Sep 92 08:34:03 GMT
Organization: BBS

> >   #include <intuition/intuition.h>
> >   #include <graphics/gfxbase.h>
> >   #include <clib/alib_protos.h>
 
> > With no GST, SAS/C version 6 takes 5.3 seconds to compile this file
> > (include files on hard disk, A3000/25).  With the GST generated but
> > not loaded into RAM, SAS/C version 6 takes 0.7 seconds to compile
> > the same file.  After the GST is loaded into RAM, it takes only 0.2
> > seconds to compile.
 
> Aztec C 5.2a takes 7.2 seconds to compile without precompiled
> headers, 1.3 seconds with precompiled headers, and 0.9 seconds with
> the compiled header file in RAD:.
> 
> Aztec C is not "resident", so this timing includes the time for
> "cc" to be loaded from disk.  This is on a stock A3000T/25.
 
With the precompiled headers and source in RAM: and the executables
preloaded with Rez 0.5, I get 6.7 seconds without precompilation and
0.33 seconds with.
From: robert@devvax.mincom.oz.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Opinions wanted re: CanDo
Date: 24 Aug 92 06:02:56 GMT
Organization: Mincom, Brisbane, Australia

Hi!

I was wondering, has anyone any opinions about Inovatronic's CanDo product?

Specifically, I see no mention of it in this news group. Is that because noone
considers it to be a programming language? Or, isn't it taken seriously for
some reason?

Has anyone used CanDo?

I have acquired an old version (this came free on the cover of Amiga FORMAT 
June or July issue I think). It seems to be a fully fledged version, it's just
that it is quite an old version (1.02 I think), and there is bugger-all doco
in that issue of the mag for it.

I am a non-programmer type-of-person, and I like the way that you can instantly
(by my comparison with other experiences with AMOS, BASIC etc.) create windows,
buttons etc. Is CanDo taken seriously in 'techo' circles? Or is it ragged and
canned as being a 'pretend' language.

Any opinions would be welcome, as I am seriously considering purchasing the
latest version of CanDo, but I don't want to waste my money.

Many THANX in ADVANX

Robert