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From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: HK High School CS syllabus
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:17:23 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

yyeung@cory.berkeley.edu (Yat-Chi Yeung) writes:

>Howdy,

>	I am just curious what HK students get to learn from their so-called 
>"Computer Studies" classes nowadays.  I remember back in 1987 my high school 
>taught basics, which "might" be quite useful now, huh?!   ;-)

>	Have they switched to anything like Pascal or C?  Or are they still
>teaching basics?  Also, in general, what kind of hardware and equipments 
>do they have?

>	Just wondering...

When I was studying CS in high school (in Hong Kong--which was 5 years ago), 
the education dept. was still using Commodore PC (an IBM XT clone) and 
BASIC to teach.  The syllabus was quite intense (I don't know if it was
just because of my teacher...) as one has to learn a lot ranging from
programming, computer history to computer architecture.  (in 2 years of high
school).  I didn't take my O-level examination (as a matter of fact, I didn't
go onto form 5), so I couldnt' tell you what topics did it cover.

(I do remember we have to study things like 2's compliment though).

Yours sincerely,
Kelvin
e-mail: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu
From: cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Color Wolf
Date: 9 Oct 92 00:51:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Cheung's Funky Shop, Inc.

Funky Cheung salutes William Lo!

Yes, there was one word missing.  After City (Sing), there should be another
word city (sih).  Thank you.  I thought I posted another one right after I 
found the mistake.  Well, in any event, thanks.

Cheung's Funky Shop, Inc.
From: yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:35:52 GMT
Subject: Re: Traditional vs Simplified Characters
Organization: Hewlett-Packard ISG-SBU-PWD, UK.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong

A lot of simplified Chinese characters have been used in hand writing for a
very long time as we can find in paintings (for more than thousand years).
But some of the simplified characters are nonsences at all. e.g. The side of
Yang in Tai Yang is different from the one in Yang tree. I belive we should
printed newspapers, books etc in traditional characters while accepting
writting in simplified. I think (no proved) that traditional characters are
easiler to remember because most of the characters having meaning from the
word itself. I read from Ming Pao monthly sometimes ago. An acticle said
that in a movement to teach people to read in early 50s. More people learned
to read (not write) traditional characters than simplified. And it said
that the goal for simplifed characters was to transform chinese characters 
into Latin characters by Mao. Of course we still have trouble in entering
chinese characters into computer. From the speed of computer development, we
should be able to enter information in speaking in the near future.
 
From: yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:43:08 GMT
Subject: Re: Oh NO! not (New Topic: Chinese Christians)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard ISG-SBU-PWD, UK.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong

>soc.culture.hongkong / chuan@stein.u.washington.edu (Chuan Lee) / 12:26 am  Oct 14, 1992 /
>In article <1992Oct13.212701.22897@oracle.us.oracle.com> glo@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (George Lo) writes:
>>
>>I saw that several people that I known who went to Christian
>>fellowship for the purpose of meeting guys/girls and as soon
>>as they achieved their purpose, they quitted.

>I don't disagree with what you said there, mostly.  But what is the
>meaning of that "purpose"?  I would think, as soon as "they quitted",
>the persons they are after are also devoted Christians will quit them
>too.  So what is the point?  I think it is much more productive, in

Morelikely, they quited too (if both of them have same purpose).

I know a lot of guys goes to CCF because there are more "pure" girls.
Those girls might think that there are less "colour wolves" in a beliver's
meeting. (Mum told me not to go to disco, bar, party etc. because there are
so many "colour wolves" out there. But it is boring, Christians, sounds good,
and mum would not objected.) No, there are "colour wolves" too. They just
don't show their tails. (Underline, some only). But it is very clear, there
are more girls (married or unmarried) in a CCF meeting than Students meeting,
party or disco.

>terms of knowing more people (gals/guys if you prefer), to joint
>school/community functions.  Just hope you won't be stuck with the
>one that you will regret, not because of himself/herself, but because
>of yourself!  Just think about the situation that you are not
>interested a bit in religion at all, but that you have to fake to be
>one everytime you are with that person.

No, you don't need to fake. Just tell her/him you are still in doubt. But
never say no or picking mistakes (very difficult if you really look at it)
in the bible.

>
>Chuan Lee
>U of Washington, Seattle.
>
>PS. But if you are truly and unexpectedly enlightened by Him one of
>    those I-think-I-am-still-pretending days, praise the Lord.
>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: afung@world.std.com (Al K Fung)
Subject: Re: Search a way to give birth to a son?
Keywords: method, son
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 04:23:27 GMT


There are a few things that you can do. 

However, the most important thing is for you to consult a fertility 
expert first. Your local medical board or your family doctor should 
be able to refer you to a reputable one. The expert is the only one 
who is qualified to give you detailed technical advices. Among other
things, he/she has to determine whether you have an unbalanced X, Y 
sperm ratio and if so, why.

You may already know these, but there are a few basic facts that you 
should keep in mind. The sex of your offspring is determined by you,
not your wife. Your X sperms produce girls and your Y sperms produce 
boys. They have different survival characteristics under different PH 
conditions.  All sex selection strategies revolves around this basic 
theme.

The complexity and success rates are different for different techniques.
Artificial insemination and in vitro fertilization rank highest in 
success rate and complexity (and hence cost). 

Good luck. I hope you'll get what you wish! In the mean time, please 
give your girls all the support that you can give them and let them 
know that you love them and respect them. Prepare them well to face 
what this male dominated culture of ours has in store for them .... :)

Regards,

Al Fung
SoftFab International Ltd. 
One Kendall Square, Suite 2200, Cambridge, MA 02139
E-mail:  afung@softfab.com
Voice :  (617) 621-7014
Fax   :  (617) 577-1209

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: bi_kin@uxmail.ust.hk (HoiFung JACK @>-`)
Subject: Re: Help! 3 lhDr(s) (Dr. Dog's View)
Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 12:35:23 GMT


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In article <9228618.27440@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William Lo) writes:
>
>	Yes yes yes, hey, here I am, this's Dr Lo whom you might've known
>	already... Call me Bill or William or Billy or Elvie(preferred) or
>	whatever whatever...
> 
hmm...you seem not belong to the 7 LHs in ILHC....?!
>
>Thanks for Dr Dog's dog view.
>   
>And please go get some better food to eat... Recommended: POLO(Cantonese)
>or PAL(tm)!
hahahahaha....u know, i have a twin brother who studies in CUHK, his name is
"Pal", u ask me to eat him? :|
>Your wires are twisted a bit("Chi Sin") I'm afraid, so go see the doctor, too,
>won't you? Hmhmhmhm :-D
oOOhhhh...!!!!!  Wwahhhh...i can go to see "doctor"- Miss HK doctor in HKUST!
thanks for your reminder!  yeahhhh!!! go now...fly...fly ....flyyyyyy!!!!

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From: stevew@helios.unl.edu (Steve Wu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Help! 3 lhDr(s) (Here goes...)
Date: 8 Oct 92 03:02:13 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln

bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu (Billy H. Chan) writes:

>In article <1992Oct7.235532.4380@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> 
>cfs2b@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Chun Fai Szeto) writes:
>>	My friend (let's call him Peter) is going to be a fourth year 
>>student and the girl (call her F.S.)  is 3rd-year student and I think
>>her personlity of F.S. is pity agressive (I mean she welcomes all boys 
>>dating her) and is also active in any activity.  On ther other hand, 
<<DELETE>>
>>with F.S.. So what does Peter need to do in order to possess F.S.'s love?

>First of all, Peter should try to ask her out to lunch or dinner again
>this semester, if he has the time.  Since F.S. welcomes all boys dating
>her, as you said, getting her to go out with Peter shouldn't be tough.
<<DELETE>>
>Wonder what the other Dr's have to say about this one...
>-- 
>----------------------------------------------------------------
>Billy H. Chan 	<bhchan@ocf.berkeley.edu>   "Life: a strange new

  If I were Peter, I will forget about this girl and try to get
some more meaningful things done.

  Reason:
  (1) Having a agressive friend is bad, and having a agressive lover
      is a nightmare.

  (2) Even if the termpery result turns out to be good, (Peter dates
      F.S successfully), they will probabalily break up very soon.

  I have friends they chased a girl (three of my best friends and five
others) was chasing a same girl at the same time, and the story was
not so good. The finall result was, one of my friend got success but
they broke up after two years. Although all of them are ok now, during
that "Dark age," many of them got heartbreak, tears, angury and
misunderstanding. Perhaps, these are what we call growing pain.

  So, forget about the girl, and learn some builtiful things like
Group theory, coding theory and combinatorics. That would be more
interesting.

  steve
--
stevew@helios.unl.edu  |=| \ Fender / |=| ... smoke on the water, fire in
                       |=|   \    /   |=| the sky...   Smoke on the water.
stevew@hoss.unl.edu    |=|     \/     |=|     (36 bars guitar solo)
		      Deep purple, the best
From: cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: One Joke A Day, No More Girls Say No Way
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:03:58 GMT
Organization: Cheung's Funky Shop, Inc.

Article: 19150 of soc.culture.hongkong
From: g25@vax1.mankato.msus.edu wrote

>I wrote this short prose for a friend's birthday, just for fun.

Else removed.  Refer to article 19150 for the original poem.


"What is this?" Funky Cheung asks.  "Is this poetry time now?"
O.K.  Funky Cheung also has a poem in this fall season.  It is
dedicated to a friend whom I met in early summer this year.  

"Don't flame me," Funky Cheung cautions, "consider that I have
only a few years of informal Chinese language education."


       | |                            /__    /--/--   \  ___ 
     --|-|-   ----    -----   |---|  / \/     \  \  ---- _|_
       / |   __|_|_   __|__   |-- |    /___   --+-    --  | |
      /| |/    | |      | |   |-- |   / \ /  ---|---  ----+-+-
       | |_|   / |   ---+---  /  \|    __/     / \    []  [ ]

                         ____                   +---+ 
       | ____     /     ___|__  ^-- ^--  -----  |-- |   ----+
     --|-|-- |   /_/---  / | \  |-+ +-+   /|\   |-- |  ---|-|-
      /|\|[|]|   /_\ |   __T__  |=| | |  / | \ _|___|   --|-+
     / | /-+-|_| \\\_|__   ]    |_  |\|    |     / |__|  /[ ]
                         

      |----/   |----/  __|__|_     \      /         |-     
      |\-/ -+  |\-/ -+  +----+  -------- /------- |-----   |  /    
      | X  _|  | X  _|  |-+--|    ----    -|-|-|- |--|-- --|-/___\
       _____    _____   +-|--+    ----   -------- |  |--  / \  __
      | | | |  | | | | |--/---|   |---|   | | | | |/z/_/  \ / |  |
     ------------------| /--\ |   |___|           / /\/___ X  |__|

          -+-+
        |  |-|     | ---        --|--|--   ---|--     |
        |  |-|   --|-|||        -|-|-|-     --|-  ____|__       
      --|- -----  /|__|__ -----  |_____    ---+---  \ |   /| V   \
        |  |/\   / | /|\        ----|---     /|\/     |  / |____|
     ---+- |---    |/ | \         / | \     / | \_   \|



Once again, don't flame.  It is a funky poem from Funky Cheung, just
like the "Color Wolf" published several days ago.

Funky Cheung is a romantic, occationally, in an awkward, silly and 
nerdy manner.

Cheung's Funky Shop, Inc.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.hongkong:12329 soc.culture.china:27565
From: bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu (Billy H. Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: cxterm: Help me please
Date: 12 Oct 1992 18:00:17 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Oct12.072231.11394@ucc.su.OZ.AU> ta_k@maths.su.oz.au (Katya Ta) writes:
>Hi,
>
>Has anyone got cxterm running on the Apollos? If so would you be willing
>to help me, as I'm having problems :-(.
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Katya
>
Hmmm, I'm not sure, but ocf.berkeley.edu are apollos and I think they are
running xterm or sorts.  The new Domain/OS just came out (10.4 I think)
and they've been redoing the whole system, so I'm not sure anymore.  How-
ever, I'm sure they'll be happy to help if mail them your problem and the
full details to staff@ocf.berkeley.edu.
-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------
Billy H. Chan 	<bhchan@ocf.berkeley.edu>   "Life: a strange new
Just Babbling   <bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu>   state of confusion"
Disclaimer 1:   I'm actually a really nice person. (sorta) :) ;)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: dteng@cmcvx1.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: The fifth tin wong
Organization: Claremont McKenna College
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:20:29 PST

In article <1992Oct9.083535.7743@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>, u1040448@keystone.arch.unsw.edu.au (C Ma) writes:
> I think Jimmy (Lam Chi Wing) can sing better than Aaron Kwok.
> 
> Chibi
> 
> 
> 
You/He can kiss my rear end anytime you/he want/wants!
						BusterR
From: s907459@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Ka Wo Anthony Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: HK comics: Tin Ha
Keywords: Tin Ha, comic, wind, cloud
Date: 13 Oct 92 07:51:43 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au

jfong@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (John Fong) writes:

>Have you read the "Wind, Cloud" novel?  Ma Wing Shing already wrote the ending
>there (When that fortune teller met Wind, Cloud, and Wave, he told them what
>their future will look like.)  I don't want to talk too much, since I don't
>want you lost interest to "chase" the story :)

I reckon most readers prefer to have an ending to all the characters. It does
not matter whether the ending is really dramatic, the most important point is
to keep the story much more lively.  Stretching the story like most Jademan
comics is extremely boring. You won't see much novel written this way.  
The story started when Fung Wun were little kid and both of them grow up
as the story progress, it's really no point freezing them in time. 
Mao Ming (Anonymous) is probably 42 to 45 already. Oh, he might be fifty
already because he was in his thirty's when he attended the "tournment"
with Poor Kwan.

The only exception is James Bond movie which presented in chapters. However,
at the moment Tin Ha is a continuous story. I think it would be refreshing
to have more new characters (major one) to join the story. Let Fung Wun
grow old and becomes legendary heros...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mkwan@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Michael C. KWAN)
Subject: Advices for Peter (Dr. Feelgood)
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 02:37:30 GMT


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                          Advices from Dr. Feelgood
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"Chun Fai, thank you very much for posting to the "New 3 Lonely Hearts
 Club", also please reply if my advices work well for your buddy Peter.
 First, because P. knows F.S. such a long time, therefore, P. needs to do
 something special to 'break the ice' such as send 11 flowers to her on
 on birthday; tell her a funny, but scary ghost story on Halloween Day (*),
 or the third Superprofessional Skill: ask P. to pretend not knowing how to
 dance, rollerskate, cook (if she cooks well), and ask F.S. to teach P.
 Or in the other hand, if P. knows how to ski, offer to teach F.S.  those
 are just some examples, P. may do any similar things to get closer to F.S.
 Another element determining how fast P. should go is: depends on how well
 P. & F.S. friendship is right now.  Remember: Gentleman is the one to step
 forward to ask, don't be shy!  Hey, I wonder why P. waits until his 4th yr. 
 to date a girl; anyway, 'Nothing is worse than giving up', so don't give up
 until the last moment which I can't help you, O.K.?  Also please let me know
 what 'll be goin' on later....." from Dr. Feelgood


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    *     *  *     *  *     *               Dr. Mike
     *   *    *   *    *   *                mkwan@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au
      ***      ***      ***                 Dr. Sleeping Beauty
     New 3 Lonely Heart Club                shsieh@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: rchoy@clarify.com (Raymond Choy)
Subject: Re: New Topic: Chinese Christians
Organization: Clarify, San Jose
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:43:15 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.072138.23399@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> ins882e@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr B.C. Tay) writes:
>What I think is:
>Non-religion side: (1) people tend to get lonely at oversea as there is a new
>environment to live in and one have to get to know new friend. Unfortunately,
>The people oversea tend to have more christian than non-religion people..

Not True. There are definition more non-Christian there (note that a person
who attend the fellowship not necessarily be a Christian).


>thus one people may contact with a christian first and get influence by them.
>(ii) christian tend to help other people a lot than the non-religion people,
>this make the non-religion people think that christian is good and thus their
>god.

I see no relation between religion and people eagerness to help others. It
depends more on personality.


>(iii) One may not cope with the work load of a uni/school, and in order to get
> through this abnormal period, 
>, he/she have to depend on something that may help them(i.e. god),the reason
>why people may turn up to believe in christ not alah(islam) or buddha is
>because the christian oversea is more active, they tend to have more activities
>and know how to promote the bible...
>

Do you mean that if you cannot handle your class, you are going to pray and
ask God to help you? (I used to do that when I was in my primary school :-))


>
>Finally, my point of view:
>It doesn't matter that whether a person believe in a religion or not.
>the most important thing is, they know how to care and want to care from the
>deep of their heart, that is, with love, one doesn't need to have a god to 
>believe in because their heart is already settle down; with peace and loving.
>If every people in this world is kind and lovely, then we won't know what is
>war and what is bad, right? Thus what is the difference between a christian
>and a non christian, as long as they are the same(have the same behaviour)?
>Actually, what is the horrify part of dead any way? If you think you have
>done enough........what is the different between forever life in heaven and
>totally vanish in this world?

Christian looks for everlasting happiness (before and after death). Non-
Christian looks for short term happiness (during their life). Of course there
is a difference if there is an after-death life and totally vanished after
death. If there exist an after-death life, it means that you will have to 
suffer for an indefinite amount of time (under the final judgement days) 
in the hell if you do not choose to believe in God (no matter how much 
good thing you've done before your death). If it is the case, then the
choice is obvious. If one will be totally vanished after death, then the
choice would become fair. 


-Raymond Choy-
From: ylnwai@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Newton Wai)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: New Topic: Chinese Christians
Date: 12 Oct 92 00:52:00 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo

In article <Bvx9zw.KB5@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, rhc52134@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Richard) writes:
> 
> It seems that girls like to go to fellowship, therefore, guys go to fellowship.
> So everyone goes to fellowship.
> 
> I don't mind people go to fellowship, but why does it have to be on Friday 
> nights? It is Friday night, when all your troubles are gone, people should go
> out to have fun, instead of talking about God.

	Maybe because people are too busy with assignments/midterms during 
weekdays that they don't have time to go to fellowship.

	And, is talking about God really boring?
	Maybe I should stop to avoid another religious flame wars.
> 
> Richard

								Newton Wai
From: C.H.Ka@bradford.ac.uk (CH KA)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: err...
Summary: Free SEXXX
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:25:29 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 90495480@ccw312

This is only a joke...
take it easy.....
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong