From: falcon@camelot.bradley.edu (D. Nathan Hood)
Subject: Re: Ray Shea Goes Ballistic (was Re: Top 10 bands of all time)
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 21 Nov 92 01:47:10 GMT

In <4238@unisql.UUCP> ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:

>In article <falcon.722284661@camelot> falcon@camelot.bradley.edu (D. Nathan Hood) writes:
>>yes... you are one of those closed minded people i was talking about
>>earlier... _how_ can you think that Mr. Shea's opinions are more valid that
>>Mr. Silverman's... probably just because you agree with Mr. Shea's... i
>>feel sorry for you... _every_ opinion is jsut as valid as any other... 

>But that leaves absolutely no room for disagreement, and without disagreement,
>there is no purpose in discourse, and without discourse, what the fuck is
>rec.music.misc *for*, besides top-10 lists and scariest-song lists and
>who-did-this-song requests?

that is fine... discourse is good and important... but expressing your
opinions under the impression that they are the only 'correct' opinions is
very closed minded...

>>i am just
>>stating that i don't see how you can say that Mr. Shea's opinions are more
>>valid than Mr. Silverman's and expect us to believe you... 

>I didn't just proclaim "my opinions are more valid"

i know that... the person who wrote the post that i responded to did...
> I asked silverman 
>to back up his opinions with some sort of argument, some reason, something
>other than "these are my favorite artists IN MY OPINION" or "black music
>isn't that important IN MY OPINION".  I mean, in my opinion, Silverman
>is probably a grotty little dwarf with green skin  and 18 fingers, IN MY 
>OPINION.  See how useless any kind of discussion becomes if we all go
>around justifying any and every inanity by "IN MY OPINION"?

no.. that isn't true at all... opinions can be changed... i have a fairly
extensive music collection (compared to most that i know) and the music i
listen to tends to shift from time to time.. this means that my opinions
are changing and when people are exposed to new forms of music (or other
ideas for that matter) they might find one that they like... that is tha
validity of discussion...

>>you can do what
>>you want but when _you_ start expressing things like that for us to accept
>>as 'univeral truths' then the problems start because they are not...

>I don't express anything as a "universal truth", I back up my assertions
>with facts.

there are no facts Mr. Shea... only perceptions...

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