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From: tjj@lemma.Helsinki.FI (Timo Jokitalo)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.windows.x.i386unix
Subject: Can one combine Linux + X + WD90C30?
Date: 21 Dec 92 11:09:14 GMT
Reply-To: tjj@rolf.helsinki.fi (Timo Jokitalo)
Organization: Rolf Nevanlinna Institute, Helsinki University, Finland


I know hardly anything about this stuff, but let's ask!
We are possibly buying a new 486 machine, on whose motherboard
there is a Western Digital 90C30 or 90C31 display adapter with
Paradise chips. I wonder, whether this kind of hardware would
be supported by Linux and X?

	Thanks a lot,
	Timo
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: dosburn@cwis.unomaha.edu (Don Osburn)
Subject: SLS INSTALLED (Finally.) Thanks!
Summary: SLS finally installed Linux. Thanks.
Keywords: installed rootimage 0.97
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 04:34:12 GMT

Hello everyone, 

THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP.  I finally got Linux installed (Tiny base
system a), using the SLS distribution.  Now I can move on to b, and c.

I never did figure out what was wrong, but using the bootimage-0.98 /
rootimage-0.97 disk combo would boot ok, but for some reason it would
NOT install using the install script.  After many tries, I have come 
to the (unscientific) belief that there was something wrong with the 
mount program I had because everytime it would mount the /dev/hda1 to
mnt and begin the copy process, it would copy everything to /dev/fd0,
and consequently I would get a No Space Left on Device error after the
disk filled up.  I did notice an occasional "Could not umount /dev/fd0"
error while running the script, but could never pin it down.

Anyway, the SLS release seemed to fix all the problems.  Thanks a 
bunch to everyone that replied to my posting.  Happy Holidays.

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: splee@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Seng-Poh Lee)
Subject: Re: Kernel build benchmark
Organization: Alchemy International
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 21:23:20 GMT

Terje Vernly (terjeve@ifi.uio.no) wrote:
> In article <1992Dec22.143145.24737@infodev.cam.ac.uk>, tjrc1@cus.cam.ac.uk (T.J.R. Cutts) writes:
> 
> My 486DX/50 also with 8Mb RAM completed the same compilation in only
> 7 minutes and 10 seconds (with X and a few other clients running).

Whats your hurry, guys. My antique 16 Mhz 386 with 3 Meg of memory, and a slow
hard disk ONLY takes 2 hours 40 minutes to make the kernel, with NOTHING
else running :-)

--
Seng-Poh Lee    <splee@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: taudas@ais.org (Tony Audas)
Subject: Re: POV with linux 0.98.5
Organization: UMCC
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 02:05:35 GMT

someone on the pov mailing list told me to comment out module 'matherr'
which worked for me.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: cromack@goloso.enet.dec.com (Dean S. Cromack (NM Contractor))
Subject: Industrial Strenght Linux
Keywords: reliability
Reply-To: cromack@tcpmgr.lkg.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:51:03 GMT


I'm interested in using Linux to help local small businesses
get computer resource and function without the expense of some
of the current operating environments (ie. MS. Windows).  The
businesses I am thinking of would not likely need a GUI (or at
most one console).  The rest of the user's would do just fine
with terminals.  What I am looking for is reliability information
on Linux.  I see a lot of hackers on this conference are happy
with Linux, I would like to hack with it too.  However if I were
to have to support this for a business I would like to know I
could rely on the system.  Here are some questions to which I am
interested in getting some answers.

1. How long does your system stay running at any given boot?

2. How reliable is the file system.  Do files/filesystems get lost
	often (how often).

3. How well does the system stand up to large numbers of processes
	running?  How does it respond in low resource conditions?

4. I have used other Unix systems with X Windows and found that 4MB's
	is woefully inadequate.  What is needed to run Linux with X?
	What is needed to run several (10 or so) terminal sessions?

5. I am interested in writing a character cell windowing system so that
	terminal users can still get some of the multi-window advantages
	without the X Window overhead.  Is anyone else working on such
	a system?  I was thinking about Alpha Windows as a basis for this
	software.

Sorry if some of this information is found in the FAQ, but I have been
unable to get the FAQ off tsx...

			Dean Cromack

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From: yves@eastwind.mcds.com (Yves Eynard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Video cards
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 15:05:14 EST
Organization: The East Wind  +1 201 875 7063


I am interested in getting x up and running on my system.  I currently have 
a Diamond card (I know, our favorites), but I just got a Trident card
that I am not happy with at all.  Question is, should I switch back to 
the Diamond (it is much faster in dos) or stick with the Trident.

The Diamond is a speestar with tseng et4000 chips and the Trident has
a TVGA8900C chip.

Another question is that if I find the money to buy a new card for linux
and x, what should I get.

I have a run of the mill 386/33, if that makes a difference.

Can't live with DOS... Pass the beer nuts.

Thanks in advance.


Yves Eynard            |
yves@eastwind.mcds.com |    Sequentially monogamous
                       |
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: messina@netcom.com (Tony Porczyk)
Subject: Suitability of hardware for Linux serial term server
Organization: Messina Software
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 23:37:10 GMT


Hi, I read the FAQ (thanks for posting it, Lars!), but I am not 100%
clear on certain bits, so I would like to ask for advice from the
Linux users.  Here are the specs of the hardware i want to use as a
platform, with questions following it:

Motherboard     Micronics Gemini 486/33 w/16 MB of memory (ISA bus)
BIOS            Phoenix 80486 ROM BIOS Plus Version 0.10 G17-2
Disk Controller SCSI Adaptec 1542B
Disk            340 MB SCSI Maxtor
Video           Oak 512 + VGA B&W monitor
Keyboard        Northgate Omni Key 101

It was planned as a terminal server, so video was of secondary
consideration. 

1. Will Linux run on it?  Is anyone running it in a similar
   configuration?  Any suggestions for changes (not too
   extensive, hopefully)? 
2. I need to find (hopefully, as inexpensive as possible) a
   spreadsheet and a database (up to 20-40 MB total table size) that
   would exchange data nicely (from database to spreadsheet essential,
   the other way is an icing on the cake).  Any recommendations? 
   Costs involved? 
3. Does troff come with Linux?  Support for HP Laser Printers PCL?
4. Can it be installed from floppies?  
5. How much space is required to install Linux?
6. Does it have support for SCSI tape?


Thanks a million,

Tony

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: pfau@coffee.enet.dec.com (Thomas Pfau)
Subject: Re: Partial install of a series
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 16:10:01 GMT


In article <1992Dec24.095749.17604@nwnexus.WA.COM>, danubius@halcyon.com (Joseph R. Pannon) writes...
>I need urgent help to recover from the partial install of the series 'b'
>disks.  Apparently the 6th floppy was either of marginal quality, or not
>seated quite right in the drive sending sysinstall into a seemingly
>infinite loop displaying some error message about not being able to read
>it.  So, I had to stop it with Ctrl-C.  But then, when I wanted to
>reinstall the series, it would not recognize the first (b1) disk and
>kept asking for it every time I hit the Enter key.

sysinstall wants to mount the disk to /user which didn't exist after I
installed from SLS.  Try 'mkdir /user' and invoke sysinstall again.

tom_p
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius)
Subject: Re: "the `gets' function is unreliable and should not be used"??!!!
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 22:44:10 GMT

dld54032@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dave Dribin) writes:
>I am using SLS Linux v99.0.  Did I install anything wrong, or is the function
>really unreliable.

You didn't install anything improperly (or at least this warning is
not due to installation problems).  The fact is that gets is
unreliable.  Period.

For an explanation of why gets is unreliable, read the comp.lang.c
FAQ, or think about this: what happens if the input contains a line
that is longer than the buffer you gave to gets?

If you can't find out the answer any other way, I'll be happy to mail
it to those interested.  But the exercise is a healthy one, and
teaches you something about designing good function interfaces.

> I would think that all the standard ASNI functions would be
> reliable!

Hardly.  After you're done with gets, think about scanf("%s",buf).
(Using sprintf, strcpy, and strcat without thinking properly can also
cause unreliable problems, but gets and scanf are _inherently_
unreliable, whereas the others are only dangerous if used improperly;
a bit like a large enough mass of uranium is inherently unreliable,
but a large mass of steel is dangerous only if dropped on somebody's
head.)

--
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   MS-DOS, you can't live with it, you can live without it.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: deutsch@lagrange (jesse deutsch  )
Subject: ex bug(?) and DR DOS workaround
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 18:27:45 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins

When I invoke ex on my linux parition, it appears to believe
that it is like vi - my prompt is on the bottom of the
screen and the information line is on the top of the screen.
Can this be fixed?

I tried to reinstall and repartition my hard drive with DR DOS
and linux.  There were many problems until I made the linux
partition have type 80 old minix.  Then DR DOS finally believed that
this was a filesystem it should leave alone.

Using 0.98.5 SLS distribution of mid November with a 386/25 DX
and a coprocessor.  83 meg hard drive.

Can't wait for 1.0!!

Jesse
#include standard disclaimer

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From: marc@r-node.gts.org (Marc Fournier - Admin)
Subject: Re: UUCP 103 (taylor)
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX Information System (416-249-5366)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 15:55:18 GMT

In article <72424@cup.portal.com> Dave-Nuttall@cup.portal.com (David Dave Nuttall) writes:
>I am also having difficulty compiling Taylor UUCP 103 under Linux 0.99pl1.
>Commenting out the line:
>	#define strncasecmp strnicmp
>
>does not fix it....rather it results in an error pointing at line
>1182 which is apparently:
>
>	extern int strncasecmp P((const char *z1, const char *z2, int clen));
>
>If you comment out that line, it just gets worse!
>Any constructive comments would be appreciated.
>Thanks.
>
>(And "Read the FAQ" is cute, but no always instructive or constructive.)

Don't comment out the line...go into 'conf.h' and there is a line in
there that defines...HAVE_STRNCASECMP, I think.  Change it from 0 to
1, or vice versa.  That was the only problem I had with compiling it
:)

Marc

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From: zdenek@ksr.com (Zdenek Radouch)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT [BUG in 0.99] Re: [ANNOUNCE]: linux version 0.99
Keywords: kernel linux 0.99
Date: 22 Dec 92 17:46:25 EST
Organization: Kendall Square Research Corp.

>>>>In normal C programs, yes, but the kernel is a bit special.  Like, for
>>>>instance, who is going to do the initialization?
>>>
>>>Why couldn't the first thing in the kernel be a zeroing of bss?!
>>
>>Well, how about the kernel runs in 32bit mode, while the init stuff is
>>done in 16bit mode.
>
>Hm.  How about, the first thing in the kernel _after_ transition to
>32-bit mode?

What am I missing? Why is the mode significant and how does it affect
writing bunch of zeroes in memory?

Also, why does the init code run in 16-bit mode? I'd assume that the first
five instructions in the boot code would put the processor in some
reasonable mode.
-Z
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mnl@dtro.e-technik.th-darmstadt.de (Michael N. Lipp)
Subject: libc.so.4.2 Caveats!
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 00:29:19 GMT
Organization: TH-Darmstadt

I have experienced two major problems with the new libc.so.4.2. (Note that
I started my Linux with SLS .98p5)

1) The new library has an improved "gethostbyname". A new file
   /usr/etc/inet/host.conf is used to set options. If this file is missing,
   a file containing a single line

     order bind

   is assumed. This means that ONLY DNS is used to resolve hostnames. Your
   /usr/etc/inet/hosts is never consulted!  As I don't have the named
   running, I had to create a file /usr/etc/inet/host.conf containing
   the line

     order hosts

   Actually, you can have

     order hosts nis bind

   or any other combination. I did not try to find out about the other
   keywords that can be used in host.conf from the source. Perharps
   whoever wrote the new version can post a little doc.

2) sed doesn't work any more. I have recompiled it using FSF sed-1.13.tar.Z.
   Strange enough, although I removed the sed-local regex.o getop.o and
   getopt1.o (thus using the functions in libc.so.4.2) and compiled with
   -O2, my new sed is about twice as large as the old one. Was it not
   FSF sed-1.13 in the SLS distribution?

Hope that helps.

Michael
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From: wong060@cs.cuhk.hk (Lewis S.H. Wong)
Subject: Re: Support for DTC-3192 SCSI adapter? It worked before...
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 08:45:04 GMT

ghod@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:



>Season's greetings:


>(Note: I tried posting this earlier, but my newsreader was having problems so
>I don't know if it got out.)

>I have a problem I'm hoping someone can help me resolve. I've been trying to
>install Linux 0.99 on a freind's computer. This machine is a 486 33Mhz with
>16 Megs RAM and a Data Technology Corp. DTC3192 SCSI host adapter with a
>Seagate ST3283N drive (250 megs). The problem is that while the kernel on the
>a1 SLS distributution disk seems to correctly recognize his SCSI set up, 0.99
>doesn't. For that matter, neither did 0.98 pl5. I've noticed in the kernel

>sources that support for a number of different adapters is included, but I'm
>wondering if they're all compiled into the standard setup.

>What I did for now was to create a modified version of the a1 disk and use that
>as the system boot disk instead of the one generated by the SLS doinstall
>script. This is enough to get the system running for now, but the a1 kernel
>doesn't have TCP/IP, which means the current X distribution won't work.
>Does anyone know the difference between the a1 kernel and 0.99 that's
>responsible for this SCSI card/disk combination not working?

>Also, on a related note, I ran into a small snag while trying to compile a new
>kernel on his system. irq.c tries to include a file called linux/interrupts.h
>which seems to be missing. I have it on my system at home, but I suspect this
>is because I had it left over from when I installed the header files from
>0.98 pl5. Can anyone verify that this file is missing from SLS? Better still,
>does anyone know where it can be found on the net? Any help or comments would
>be greatly appreciated.

>-=Bill Paul
>Assistant System Administrator

Well, you must choose Adaptec 1542 host adapter when you "make config".

Lewis
(wong060@cs.cuhk.hk)
>New Windsor Associates L.P
>ghod@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu   or   ghod@drycas.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: danubius@halcyon.com (Joseph R. Pannon)
Subject: An X386 question
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 09:06:32 GMT

After LILO, installing the X386 was the most time consuming task I had
with Linux, but at the end it was worth it!  My problem was the lack of
enough information about my video setup, but that was pretty much solved
after I discovered that MS DOS utility on tsx-11, the clock.exe.  Without
it, the thing was hopeless.  Another crucial piece was the sc
spreadsheet with the two samples for multi-sync and fixed freq
monitors.  Those were real time savers and at the same time they
presented the whole problem in a more understandable manner than some of
the longish documents. 

So, once I had those two tools, calculating the proper video mode
figures for Xconfig was a piece of cake.  ... and what a pleasant
surprise it was to see that X server come alive! Wow!  Very impressive.
Not just the loks of it, but how fast that thing was! Those pop-ups
really popped up!

I do have one question though (as the Subject line suggested ;-).  I
noticed that while my 640x480 resolution screen is nicely centered on
the screen (though the clock could be more circular!), the 800x600
screen is very much in a right-shifted position. To a lesser degree, so
is the 1024x768 screen, too.  Since I calculated the Xconfig modes
figures right "by the book" and even tried to play with the 
pre-sync and post-sync figures somewhat, I haven't had much luck to
bring that display to the center of the screen from that right side.
Can somebody give me a hint what I might still try to accomplish that?
It seems that the documents on this subject contradict each other on
which way the horizontal frame is being traced; whether it starts from
the left or right (when facing the screen), so I am not even sure which
side of the screen has the horizontal sync pulse.  In case somebody
might want to be able to help me with this, here is the relavent line
from the Xconfig file:

 "800x600"   50     800  832 1008 1040    600  609  619  667

As I mentioned, the window looks OK and proportionate, just shifted
entirely to the right edge of my screen.

Thanks,
Joe Pannon
From: hlu@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: libc.a errors with gcc 2.3.3
Keywords: gcc, 486
Date: 1 Jan 93 07:37:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1993Jan1.073740.17721
Organization: Washington State University!

In article <1993Jan1.013916.26835@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> wyvern@gnu.ai.mit.edu (The Wyvern) writes:
>I just installed gcc 2.3.3 (The 486 version) and everything seems
>fine except for one problem. When I try to compile hello.c
>with the -static option, I get these errors:
>
>/usr/lib/libc.a(printf.o): Undefined symbol _stdout referenced from text segment
>/usr/lib/libc.a(printf.o): Undefined symbol streambuf::vform(const char *, void *) refer
> *) referenced from text segment
>/usr/lib/libc.a(atexit.o): Undefined symbol _malloc referenced from text segment
>/usr/lib/libc.a(exit.o): Undefined symbol __cleanup referenced from text segment
>
>This is using the lib486-4.2.TZ from tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/GCC/486
>and 486 compiler. When linking with shared libs, jump or nojump, it works
>fine. The problem seems to be only with the static version of 486 libc.
>How can I fix this?
>
>-->Configuration
>i486-33 system
>8mb RAM
>200mb IDE HD
>Linux 0.99.1, GCC 2.3.3-486
>libc.so.4.2 compiled from jump-4.2.TZ sources
>

Blamed me not using 486 :-). Please do

cd /usr/lib
ar -t libtermcap.a

If you don't find __.SYMDEF, please do

cd /tmp
rm -rf usr
tar xvvvofz lib486-4.2.TZ
cd usr/lib
ranlib *.a
cd /tmp
cp -av ./usr /

The one on tsx-11 is fixed.

>Also:
>  Is it safe to delete /usr/lib/shlib/jump and nojump?
>  I believe these are the gcc 2.2.2d directories for
>  the jump libraries and have been replaced with
>  lib*.ca and lib*.sa in /usr/lib. Is this correct?
>

Yes.

>

H.J.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: Offline Mail Reader for Linux?
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 08:35:13 GMT

Jay Anderson (anderson@zymurgy.bms.com) wrote:
: >>>>> On Tue, 22 Dec 1992 08:02:04 GMT, erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp) said:
: Ed> Savio Lam (lam836@cs.cuhk.hk) wrote:
: 
: Ed> : Can anyone suggest an offline mail reader for Linux that supports
: Ed> : the QWK format?
: 
: Ed> Yes.  ATP QWK 1.3 is what I'm running - apparantly, there is a 1.4, but I
: Ed> don't have it.
: Ed> -- 
: 
: Where can this package be found?  Archie came up empty for me looking
: for it.

Well, I *thought* it was on tsx-11, but I can't find it.  I will look on
wuarchive for it when I get back from vacation.  In the meantime, if you
want ATPQWK 1.3, email me and I'll shar it up and send it to you.  It
isn't nearly as nice as SLMR, but it serves... :)
-- 
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Who and what would you be if you went beyond your deepest fears?
From: iarit@slate.mines.colorado.edu (ARIT ISMAIL)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Unix sockets
Date: 3 Jan 93 21:57:50 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

If you want to use UNIX sockets ;

..
int sock=socket(....)
address.sun_family=AF_INET;
strcpy(address.sun_path, "/pipe");
bind(sock, &address, sizeof(address));
..

change ;
address.sun_family=AF_INET;
to;
address.sun_family=AF_UNIX;

AF_INET is for TCP sockets.

ismail
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: wonge@fraser.sfu.ca (Edmund Wong)
Subject: Re: Getting lpr/lpd to work
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 06:00:27 GMT

In article <1992Dec27.093240.1@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu> cvadr021@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu writes:
>In article <Bzw8pz.EM5@utdallas.edu>, ramesh@utdallas.edu (R. Ramesh) writes:
>
>> I can lpr files (as root) which get moved to appropriate directory. As
>> ordinary user, I cannot even lpr files as I get
>
>> lpr: cannot create /usr/spool/lp/.seq
>> 
>	If /usr/spool/lp/.seq does not exist, lpr creates it.  Unfortunately,
>it belongs to the user not the daemon.  (is this a bug?) When you lpr 
>something as root, you create the .seq file as owned by root and no one else 
>can print.  Go into /usr/spool/lp and chmod 666 .seq

  I only just a few days d/led lpr.tar.Z from tsx-11.mit.edu, and only
just installed it; but the problem is I get the following error:-

  /# lpr
  lpr : cannot create /usr/spool/lp/panasonic/.seq

  In fact, I don't even have a ~/lp directory.  I guess this means,
I installed  lpr in the wrong fashion right?  *sigh*.

  There was a diff file ('lpr.diff') in the ~/tmp file, but I don't 
know what to do with it.  Can you please enlighten me on what I do?

  Thanks

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