From: harryo@cbnewse.cb.att.com (harold.r.holm)
Subject: Re: Flash! Environmentalists switch off Earth's volcanoes (was: The Fr
Organization: AT&T
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 04:56:18 GMT
Summary: Read...his...words...

In article <92347.033853MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu>, Mark 'Mark' Sachs <MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> In article <1992Dec12.023549.763@cbnewse.cb.att.com>, harryo@cbnewse.cb.att.com
> (harold.r.holm) says:
> 
> Oh, boy. This one was a real humdinger...
> 
> >In article <1992Nov28.200433.27906@seq.uncwil.edu>, session@seq.uncwil.edu    k
> >>
> >> What on earth are you talking about. The unusually cold summer was
> >> acurately PREDICTED by several leading atmospheric scientists. The
> >> reason is simple. Ashe from Mt. Pinatubo shielding the earth from the
> >> sun. However, these scientists also said that this effect will be short
> >> lived (after all the ashe does eventually wash out) and it will back to
> >> business as usual with temperatures going back on an upward trend,
> >> which they have been on for over 100 years.
> 
> >So, once the ash washes out of the atmosphere, global warming goes
> >right on its merry way, never to be interrupted again??
> 
> Clue: who said it wouldn't be interrupted again? Reading the quoted
> text very carefully I saw no assertion that there would be no more
> volcanoes or other processes interfering with the greenhouse effect.
> The following inferences come from no source but a fevered imagination.
> 
OK, now scroll up and *read what he said* again: back to business as
usual, with temperatures going back on an upward trend.  Now you tell
us:  how does that assertion *allow* for any more interruptions of
the sort being discussed here?  "Business as usual" means just that...
merrily the warming trend just rolls along, and no interlopers such
as volcanoes allowed.  Sheesh, not only do some of YOU PEOPLE read into
some of these things what's not there; in cases when it *is* there, 
you can't see the forest for the trees.  No wonder Rush (and I) have to
attach the meaning *for* you, as he so often states....

>   Yes, folks,
> >after a couple of billion years' worth of volcanic eruptions, the
> >environmentalists have suddenly declared that Mt. Pinatubo will be
> >the *last one ever*, and that from now on, no other active volcanoes
> >will be allowed to interfere with the big, bad global warming boogeyman
> 
> I'll be as clear as I can: Mt. Pinatubo caused a TEMPORARY reduction
> in temperature due to the ash it threw into the atmosphere. Gradually
> this ash settles out, stops reflecting away sunlight, and whatever
> long-term atmospheric processes (such as, say, the greenhouse effect)
> return to their charted course. Let's say in a few years another big
> volcano goes up. It'll throw ash into the atmosphere, which will reflect
> sunlight and cool things down for a few years until it settles, and then
> back to ol' Mr. Greenhouse. Is that simple enough to comprehend?
> 
Attach meaning mode on:
Mt. Pinatubo is only one of a *number* of active volcanoes on the Earth
today.  Did you *know* that?  What, Pinatubo is supposed herald some 
sort of swan song on the geologic front?  You seem to imply that this
is a kind of two-steps-forward, one-step-back process.  Are there
any studies that postively prove that?  And what about the volcano(es)
after that, and the one(s) after that, etc, etc.???  How has it been
demonstrated that the Greenhouse Effect *will* ultimately prevail?  
This is climate and atmoshpherics balancing each other, not a doggone
celestial arm-wrestling tournament with a clear-cut predictable champ.  

> >(which actually plays right into the hands of the environmentalist
> >tree-hugger agenda, ironically.)

> No! Comrades, we have been found out! Retreat to Havana!

Good luck finding anything to eat there...I read recently that 
grapefruit steaks have become the latest rage, for lack of anything
else to fry up.  That reminds me, gotta get that article off to 
Rush.....

>  How great to know that the environ-
> >mentalists secretly have the power to switch off some of the strongest
> >forces in nature---at will, and forever!!!   After all, they can't
> >allow nature itself to get in the way of their *plans* for regimenting what
> >humanity does economically now, can they???
> 
> You forgot the bit about how the environmentalists have planted hidden
> cameras and microphones in your house, and follow you everywhere you go.

Guess you picked that up from one of those secret cabals in the CIA which
have been keeping tabs on you all these years, eh??

> >Yup, no more volcanoes to worry about--ever--now that the 'Cause-We-Say-So
> >Environmentalist Movement is exerting its secret power over the biosphere.
> 
> Watch it or we'll vector a tornado right down on your head. Don't mess with
> the Omnipotent Evil Environmentalist Conspiracy.

So then what's keeping you from stopping the Greenhouse Effect all by
yo' little 'ol  selves??  "Whahhyyy Magnolia, ahhhh doo de-CLAY-uh, we
have us a little ol' teas-uh hea-ah!!" 

> >This is is an obvious example of what Mr. Limbaugh means when he talks
> >about the arrogance of liberals, i.e, to make such sweeping, baseless, PHONY
> >presumptions.

> This is a classic example of posting with the brain still in neutral. Maybe
> even in reverse.

Ba-dum!  Suggestion:  *don't* give up your day job for a stint at stand-up
stardom.  That one won't even make it past Jay Leno's page-person.  Just
remember also that Nature's been doing volcanoes *a lot* longer than 
you've been making feeble stabs at Comedy Tonight.  Got the feeling 
that Nature will continue to be a lot better at the volcano bit than
you'll be on the amateur laffs circuit or at environmental soothsaying...... 

                                                    H.R. Holm
*comment my own; standard disclaimers;
pls post replies to the group only*
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                                   It's almost time for below-zero temps;
                                   environmentalists, do you know where
                                   your Greenhouse Effect is tonight?
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(attach meaning mode off..for now...)
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