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From: alin@nyx.cs.du.edu (ailin lin)
Subject: Re: For Sale: Minolta 35mm SLR w/28-70: $180
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 01:55:32 GMT

alin@nyx.cs.du.edu (ailin lin) writes:

>Minolta X-370 N: Auto & 1-1/1000 shutter, Bulb; absolutely mint condition.

>Prospect (=Sigma) 28-70mm f:3.5-4.5 Macro lens for Minolta; absolutely mint.

>Braun Hobby 17BC electronic flash (gn=55); average condition, automatic, work.

>Minolta strap.

>Camera w/original manual.

>Camera + lens = $180, flash free

>Will give one week warranty.

>Ailin
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To the person who are interested in this camera:

This is not an autofocus camera. 2 days old. List price for the body is $291
( Dec. 1992, Consumer digest, p. 103).

Ailin, 

will sell it for the first confirmation.
From: agosta@mred.llnl.gov (Keith Agosta)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Film Reccomendations Summary
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:17:23 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

Recently I posted an article requesting film suggestions for 35mm twilightlandscapes in both B&W and color. Following are the only two responses I have received, any others would be greatly appreciated.

< Response #1:
< If you like Kodachrome, use Kodachrome 25.  You'll need a tripod anyway,
< probably, and K25 has much kinder reciprocity characteristics -- with long
< exposures (1/10 of a second or more), K64 goes greenish, but K25 doesn't.

--name withheld

< Response #2:
< You didn't mention what format you're using so I'll assume that it's 35mm.
< In thinking of doing b/w landscapes it's important to remember that Ansel
< used mainly an 8x10 view camera.  His smallest format for landscape was the
< 6x6 Hasselblad.  So sharpness and lack of grain will be very important in< choice of film for using in a 35mm camera.  There are really only 2 choices:
< Tmax 100 and Agfapan 25.  I've not used the Agfapan.  Tmax 100 will give you
< reasonably sharp and grain-free enlargements up to 8x10.  It'll go to 11x14
< with marginally acceptable sharpness and noticible, but not too bad grain.
< I'd suggest using D76 or ID11+ developer instead of Tmax developer if you
< do your own developing/printing:  Tmax developer gives less sharpness and
< mushy grain which detracts from the impression of sharpness.

--name withheld

I would like to thank those who replied.

Keith Agosta
From: fiddler@concertina.Eng.Sun.COM (steve hix)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Rollie S?000 (was: Re: Nikon F3)
Date: 21 Jan 1993 22:22:52 GMT
Organization: Sun
NNTP-Posting-Host: concertina
Keywords: Nikon F3 interchangeable film cassettes

In article <1993Jan21.094930.23574@eye.com> paul@eye.com (Paul B. Booth) writes:
>In article <1993Jan19.215038.1109@dragon.acadiau.ca> 871323o@dragon.acadiau.ca (Oliver Oey) writes:
>>
>>Somebody did make a body like this.  However, I don't remember the
>>exact brand name, could have been Minotla or Mamiya.   I can recall
>>about ten years ago a shutterbug friend of mine brought me along to a
>>camera distributor when I was living in Hong Kong to see that camera.
>>That particular model was newly introduced and being displayed at the
>>distributor's office at the time.  The body looked very much like a
>>Hasselblad.
>>
>That would have to be the Rollie S3000 (S2000 maybe?).  Set up to work pretty
>much like a classic 2.25x2.25.  

Rolleiflex SL2000, later followed by the 3001, 3003, (and 3002?).

I used to have an SL2000 with a few lenses.

>A motorized "cube" body onto which you clipped lens, finder, and film magazine.  

Yep.  Supported TTL flash, too.  The finder(s) were built in.  Eyelevel
telescope finder, with diopter adjustment, and a removable flip-up waistlevel
finder, that could be replaced with a magnifying finder for microscope use.

>It was pretty much designed for studio work, and was supposed to be a
>very well designed camera.

Worked just fine in the field, although better than most 35mm cameras in
the studio.  Especially with the 300x, a side-mounted strap made it the
most comfortable 35mm camera I've ever used at eyelevel, similar to one
of the better 8mm video cameras.  If it had just been made as an AF...

>Unfortunately, it's heavy,
>balky, and $$ compared to conventional 35mm's for field work, and 35mm just
>doesn't resolve like 2 1/4 in the studio, so it didn't do very well in the
>market.  

I found mine to reliable, easy to handle, and about as heavy as a Nikon or
Canon professional 35mm system (but a bit more compact).  Not real easy to
find support, though.

Word is that it was pretty popular in Europe, but then, Rollei probably
gives better support over there.

There was a pretty extensive system of lenses (good ones) and accessories
for the camera...but the lenses are *really* expensive.  Essentially no
support from the imported, either.  Which is why I eventually, regretfully,
abandoned it.

>KEH and others have plenty of used ones around at decent prices if
>you're interested!

They're pretty much overpriced.

Considering the support given customers by Rollei in the U.S., it's no
wonder that it failed to sell well here.  Everything is horribly expensive,
and the number of good Rollei dealers can probably be counted on the fingers
of one's foot.

Did I mention that support was not too good?

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From: wtyler@adobe.com (William Tyler)
Subject: Re: Testing shutter speeds.
Followup-To: rec.photo
Organization: Adobe Systems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:49:50 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.111516.5922@spider.co.uk> mikec@spider.co.uk (Mike Coren) writes:

>This implies that leaf shutters will not pass a slit, i.e. they will be
>fully open for all shutter speeds.  This means that with a leaf shutter,
>you can have flash synch at all shutter speeds.  Is this true?

Yes, it's true, and it's one of the principal advantages of leaf
shutters.

- Bill


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Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: mada@electrum.kth.se (Marcus Davidsson)
Subject: REQ:CONTAX
Organization: The Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:34:22 GMT

Hej!
I wonder if anybody could tell me the differences between the two Contax
models: RTS II and 167
And what's the price difference?
Are there any other interesting Contax models?

Thanks!

Marcus Davidsson
mada@it.kth.se
From: titan@carina.unm.edu ()
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Cokin "A" and "P"
Date: 22 Jan 1993 20:33:06 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
NNTP-Posting-Host: carina.unm.edu

what are the actual dimensions of the Cokin A and P series?
3x3 and 4x4? any thoughts on how to put a 4x4 on a lens with
a 105mm filter thread? 

michael collier
titan@carina.unm.edu
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: tonyp@cs.umr.edu (Tony Phillips)
Subject: Arista films
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:25:19 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla
Originator: tonyp@mcs213e.cs.umr.edu

Has anyone ever used Arista brand films?  The ONLY place I've ever seen them
advertised is from Freestyle in LA.  I'm specifically interested in the
Aristachrome films, but would also be interested in information on Arista's
print films.

The price of these films in 100' roles is quite aluring to me.  I'm a hobbyist,
so I DON'T need the absolute best quality, but likewise I'd like realistic 
rendition of the scenes.

Thanks for any info provided, and, if possible, reply to my e-mail address 
below.


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From: az1@ukc.ac.uk (A.Zafar)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Paint on Nikon N6006 peeling
Date: 23 Jan 93 02:16:18 GMT
Reply-To: az1@ukc.ac.uk (A.Zafar)
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

In article <EXJTMM.93Jan20154326@ida28.tts.lth.se> exjtmm@tts.lth.se (Thommy M. Malmstr|m) writes:
>>>>>> "M" == M18709  <M18709@mwvm.mitre.org> writes:
>
>M> My N6006 is peeling as well.  Mainly where my right thumb holds the back.  My
>M> camera is a little more then one year old and receives average use with very
>M> little ruff handling.  I have not noticed any of the flakes.  Certainly none
>M> have found their way into the inside.  I love the camera except for its battery
>M> drain.
>
>Same problem with peeling for me... Is this a problem on the F8008 and
>F90 too?
>
>/Thommy M.
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	I was told by a Nikon rep that this is the problem with some of the
earlier 6006s. Is your one of the early ones?

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From: nbeck@weber.ucsd.edu (Nathaniel Beck)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Maxxum Zoom xi lenses
Date: 26 Jan 1993 16:24:57 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu
Summary: Are they worth the price


Hi

(I am new to this group, sorry if this is a faq)

I have decided to join the 20th Century, that is, upgrade from a
Nikon F that sits in my closet. The camera that seems to work best
for my budget and needs is the Minolta 5xi.

A few questions. Do 5xi owners regret not having bought a 7xi? 

I am going to run with one telephoto lens (70-210) as my only lens
(I don't want to carry a bunch of lens). The Tamron for the Minolta
is a whole lot cheaper than the Minolta lens. But then Minolta has
their zoom xi lenses, with a few features not available through the
vanilla af lens. Do folks with the zoom xi use the special features
of the zoom xi, and am I making a mistake going with the Tamron. 

Thanks in advance

Neal

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From: schen@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu ()
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Avoid FOTO CELL!  Avoid FOTO CELL!  Avoid FOTO CELL!
Date: 26 Jan 1993 06:11:47 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: bashful.cc.utexas.edu

In article <1993Jan25.160423.2565@ucbeh.san.uc.edu> yuanj@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
>Do not order any thing from FOTO CELL of NYC!
>
>I ordered some Tiffen filter from them and a Canon lens.  In 7 days, the lens
>and one of the filters came.  There is a wrong filter in the package.  I had to
>send back for replacement.  I put in writing that this filter was wrong and
>must be replaced.  10 days later, the same wrong filter came to me again and I
>have to send it back.  I put in writing that I do not want to buy these filters
>from them and would like to get refund for the remaining items.  It has been
>two months since my last letter.  I called them more than 5 times and ask for
>refund.  They always told me to wait for another week and the back-ordered
>filters will come.  Nothing ever came.  The shippings plus the phone calls is
>getting out of control.  FOTO CELL sucks!  Very Badly!  I still have more than
>$75 in their hands.  What can I do?  BTW, I charged to my Discover card.  The
>Discover card representatives told me to write letter to FOTO CELL and did not
>know anothing else to do.  Discover card is helpless!
>
>Remember, do not order from FOTO CELL!
>

I agree. I have had a similar experience with FOTO CELL about two years
ago. I ordered five items from them at the time totaled about $150. They
charged to my Discover card in about one week. They started shipping the 
first two items after I waited about three weeks. The third one after I 
waited about 6 weeks. The last two items never showed up. I called them
about every three weeks. The answer was always "it is on back order", 
"it will be here any time", "we will ship it tomorrow", then after 
several weeks, it would be "on back order".
I wrote to Popular Photography twice with no response at all. I called my
Discover card, they said they were going to check on it. Finally, after
6 months, (YES, half an year) I asked the student attorney(they are real
lawyers working for students at UT) to write a letter to demand the money
back. They almost immediately credited the money back into my credit card
account. It was not my first time order to them, but it was the last and
also I always tell my friends to avoid them.

FOTO CELL really sucks! They also rarely sell items at advertised prices. 

schen@microbot.me.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: acs@csri.toronto.edu (Alvin Chia-Hua Shih)
Subject: Re: Canon EF teleconverters (was Re: When does price beat out the best choice for you?)
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:40:18 GMT

In <PD.93Jan27121129@horus.sics.se> pd@sics.se (Per Danielsson) writes:

>In article <1993Jan26.113934.14097@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> acs@csri.toronto.edu (Alvin Chia-Hua Shih) writes:

>>Canon's TCs (for better or for worse) do not fit on
>>any lens except those for which they are designed.

>How is this done?

The front element of the TC protrudes a little in comparison to the
body of the TC.  Similarly, only certain lenses have recessed rear
elements.

Thus, on a lens without a recessed rear element, the TCs front element
protrusion prevents the TC from mating with the lens.

ACS
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From: mic@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Marc Clarke)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:27:17 GMT
Subject: Want PC Cataloging & Label Printing Software
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, CO
Newsgroups: rec.photo

I am just starting to wrap my head around the problems involved in cataloging
negatives and prints.  I want to use a searchable computer file set to hold
information about exposure, subject, camera and lense used, time and place,
etc., etc.  I want every image (negatives, transparencies, and prints) to have
a unique identifier so I can go from image to computer or from computer to
image.

I want to be able to search for images (negatives & prints) based on subject.
One image will certainly have multiple subject headings.  I fully expect to
expand the subject headings for one image over time, as I come up with
different ways to categorize the same image.

As I publish (and hopefully sell) images, I want to be able to keep track of
to whom I sold the image (with one image potentially sold to multiple buyers,
which issue of the publication my image was published in, etc.).  I would also
like to track how much I got paid for each sale of each image.  I think you
get the idea.

I want to print labels for my negatives, transparencies, and prints on my
Laserjet-III.  I would prefer to have the cataloging program do the printing
rather than my having to re-type label information into a label printing
program.

I use a PC clone with MS DOS 5.0 and Windows 3.1.  My spreadsheet is Lotus
1-2-3 for Windows and my word processor is Ami Pro 3.0.  I am willing to pay
shareware or commercial fees.  I am willing to write my own, if I can not find
an existing solution.  I bet I am hardly the first person to confront or
attempt to solve this problem.

1) Is there already an industry standard for image cataloging and label
   printing for DOS or Windows?   I bet professional photographers and stock
   houses already have this problem well under control.

2) Are there already existing (shareware or commercial) solutions using
   templates for the Lotus 1-2-3/W spreadsheet or Ami Pro 3.0?

3) Can someone please point me to publications containing advertisements for
   such products, or to an organization of photographic professionals that
   keeps track of such things?

This problem may require the use of a relational database, since I want so
much expandability over time and I want to do what sound like relational
queries (which images has this stock agency purchased from me since 1992, how
much did they pay me, and what was the most common subject type).  If I can
find a set of specifications for what such a relational database ought to do,
I am willing to buy myself a copy of Paradox for Windows and do the interface
and schema myself.  I understand Chen diagrams (also known as entity
relationship diagrams and have used Unix relational databases before).  But I
would rather pay someone else for a solution that someone else has developed
and tested so I can spend my time photographing.  Suggestions are welcome.
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: picheny@watson.ibm.com (MA.Picheny;340090)
Subject: Copying Old Photographs
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:16:16 GMT
Reply-To: picheny@bellini.watson.ibm.com (MA.Picheny;340090)
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

I have some old photographs (b+w) of my family I would like to copy. Some 
I only have access to for brief periods of time (like if I visit a relative).
I have a Canon Elan and a 430 EZ flash. What is the proper procedure?

Michael Picheny
From: lakhindr@ESD.3Com.COM (Lakhinder Walia)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: slide/print color films..
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:07:21 GMT
Distribution: rec

Feb 93 issue of Popular Photography:  on films..
Why does classification of Sharpness has different scales for slides and 
films:
e.g  (page 41) 
                    Print           Slide
Extremely High      above 50%      above 30%
..
High                35-44%         21-25%       
..

Also, ditto question for Granularity issue, page 145..

Thanks
-lakhinder Walia
From: krehbein@ub.d.umn.edu (kevin rehbein)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Comp.Imaging student has quest.
Date: 22 Jan 1993 10:59:15 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: ub.d.umn.edu

		Hello, 

         I'm a graphic design senior who has taken interest in the area of
	 computer imaging using photos and found imagery. I use Photoshop (on
	 the Mac system) quite extensively along with other programs such as
	 Macromind Director, Swivel 3d, and others. The reason why I'm
	 posting this is to find out if anyone else out there is dabbling in
	 the world of comp. imaging and photography. Are there many students
	 (such as myself) experimenting with this? Is there anyone out there
	 who gets paid to do this stuff? Are there many companies,
	 corporations, or small businesses using the technology of imaging or
	 animation? Hmmmm....

				Looking forward to 
				Hearing from 'ya,

				Kevin


Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Subject: Re: EPZ, EPP, RFP, VPS, CIA, IRS, FBI, KGB, etc
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 15:43:59 GMT

Oops - I gooofed.
100 ASA sounds good, yes.
:-)

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Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: arora@sje.mentorg.com (Arora Amitabh @ PCB x3080)
Subject: WANTED: Canon EOS equipment ...
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:31:18 GMT
Reply-To: arora@sje.mentorg.com
Organization: Mentor Graphics Inc.
Keywords: wanted canon eos
Followup-To: 

Wow! I had posted the article some time back and no one had
responded.  Seems like people really like their Canon EOS
line of equipment.

My request once again for any of the items below:

Cameras:	630, Elan, 10S
lenses:		50mm, 35-105, 35-135
flashes:	200E, 300EZ, 430EZ

Thanks,

-Amitabh Arora
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: acs@csri.toronto.edu (Alvin Chia-Hua Shih)
Subject: Re: New Nikon AFD lenses to anticipate.
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:07:52 GMT

For a second there, I thought you were going to say Nikon is now going
to use Canon Arc-Form Drives!  I think you meant "AF-D".  (Those nasty
TLAs! :-)

ACS
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Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: alloyd@uva386.schools.virginia.edu (April Lloyd)
Subject: Re: When does price beat out the best choice for you?
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Charlottesville)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 04:12:18 GMT

	If you really liked the 80-200 f2.8, you should
strongly consider buying it from your friend.
The $475 price quoted to you is a great price for a great lens.
So what if it is a little on the heavy side, you have to pay a
small penalty for the fast constant aperture. And if you wanted
to extend the focal range of this lens you could later purchase
a Nikon teleconverter which would give you 280 mm. or even
400 mm.  Just my opinion.


Mike Lloyd

GO WAHOOS!
From: mikec@spider.co.uk (Mike Coren)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Is there a new Minolta Camera?
Date: 26 Jan 93 11:52:15 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

In article <1993Jan24.112036.4276@ira.uka.de> danisch@ira.uka.de writes:
>Hi,
>
>here in germany the price for the Minolta
>Dynax/Maxxum 9xi was constant DM 1995,- for long time.
>Now it is going down fast, i have seen DM 1600,- and
>DM 1400,- .
>
>Could this be an early sign for a new Minolta (higher
>than 9xi) ?
>
>
>Hadmut

I don't know about a new high end, but I've heard that in Japan you can buy
Minolta Dynaxes with a special "panoramic" option that lets you take panoramic
pictures.  I suspect it's like the disposables, where you only get a narrow
exposure in a standard 35mm frame.  In any event, last I heard they weren't
being sold outside of Japan, but I suppose it's up to the individual distrib-
utors whether they feel it's worthwhile to import or not.

Mike

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Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: bob@hpwin052.uksr.hp.com (Bob Easton)
Subject: Re: Is there a new Minolta Camera?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 10:05:58 GMT
Organization: the HP UK Response Centre
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Hadmut Danisch (danisch@ira.uka.de) wrote:
| 
| here in germany the price for the Minolta
| Dynax/Maxxum 9xi was constant DM 1995,- for long time.
| Now it is going down fast, i have seen DM 1600,- and
| DM 1400,- .
| 
| Could this be an early sign for a new Minolta (higher than 9xi) ?

Same has happened in the UK - the price has dropped from 800+ pounds to
549 pounds (lowest). Perhaps they just weren't selling at the higher
prices - I seem to recall reading somewhere that the 9xi was the last of
the xi's (but that was before the 2xi came out!).

Bob
From: mikec@spider.co.uk (Mike Coren)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Canon EOS A2 or A2E?
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:08:06 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

In article <1993Jan25.021717.28954@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> acs@csri.toronto.edu (Alvin Chia-Hua Shih) writes:
>
>The only difference between the A2 and A2E is the eye-controlled
>focusing.
>

I believe the A2 also has a built-in *adjustable* diopter eyepiece, which
the A2E does not.

Mike

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Temporarily at Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, Scotland, UK.