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From: c9117709@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (THE SKY IS FALLING......NO I'M TIPPING OVER BACKWARDS)
Subject: How we can improve NSWRL Reffing
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 08:15:43 GMT

************************HOW CAN WE IMPROVE NSWRL REFFING***********************

	Well this looks like as good aa place as any to start the topic.
*******************************************************************************

	By the way tips for the finals

Round 1		St George v Illawarra  -  St.George
		Newcastle v Wests      -  Newcastle (changed my mind)


Round 2         Brisbane  v St George  -  St.George
		Newcastle v Illawarra  -  Newcastle

Round 3		Newcastle v Brisbane   -  Newcastle (Virtually home crowd adv)

Grand Final	St.Goerge v Newcastle  -  St.George  (Not in my heart but on
							gut feeling)

	Any others from those raging League punters out there.


Xref: sparky aus.sport:244 aus.jokes:1080
From: ecrjbruce@economics.adelaide.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.sport,aus.jokes
Subject: Re: When hell freezes over...
Date: 20 Aug 92 07:22:03 GMT
Followup-To: aus.sport
Distribution: aus
Organization: Economics, University of Adelaide

In article <1992Aug19.051854.23568@melba.bby.oz.au>, gnb@duke.bby.com.au (Gregory N. Bond) writes:
> There was an article on the back page of The Age (Weds 19/8) about the
> just-announced move of the Brisbane Bears to the Gabba after signing a
> 25 year lease.  A quote from the Rt. Hon. Keith De Lacy, Queensland
> Treasurer:
> 
> ``Obviously, cricket alone could not sustain an upgraded Gabba and we
>   needed a substantial winter tenant.  Now we have one and, hopefully,
>   by the time the Bears' lease expires they will have won an AFL
>   premiership and Queensland will have won the Sheffield Shield.''
> 
> Oh yeah, dream on.

Yeah, no way will Queensland ever win the Sheffield Shield....


regs

Rob
Newsgroups: aus.sport
From: dlyon@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (Darren Lyon)
Subject: Re: How we can improve NSWRL Reffing
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 00:24:32 GMT

c9117709@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (THE SKY IS FALLING......NO I'M TIPPING OVER BACKWARDS) writes:

>************************HOW CAN WE IMPROVE NSWRL REFFING***********************

>	Well this looks like as good aa place as any to start the topic.
>*******************************************************************************

>	By the way tips for the finals

>Round 1		St George v Illawarra  -  St.George
>		Newcastle v Wests      -  Newcastle (changed my mind)


>Round 2         Brisbane  v St George  -  St.George
>		Newcastle v Illawarra  -  Newcastle

>Round 3		Newcastle v Brisbane   -  Newcastle (Virtually home crowd adv)

>Grand Final	St.Goerge v Newcastle  -  St.George  (Not in my heart but on
>							gut feeling)

>	Any others from those raging League punters out there.


Interesting, but I'll make a few changes of my own

Round 1            	St George v Illawarra - Illawarra
			Newcastle v Wests     - Newcastle (I hope)

Round 2 		Brisbane v Illawarra  - Brisbane
			Newcastle v St George - St George

Round 3			St George v Illawarra - St George

Grand Final 		Brisbane v St George - Wouldn't have a clue !!
 

Newsgroups: aus.sport
From: c9117709@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (THE SKY IS FALLING......NO I'M TIPPING OVER BACKWARDS)
Subject: Re: Gary Freeman
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 09:59:28 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.185836.1@cc.newcastle.edu.au>, c9225366@cc.newcastle.edu.au (SHANE JOHNS) writes:
> Well the Roosters season is over (Thanks to that idiot ref at the Newcastle v
> Canberra game who gave canberra no chance of winning after sending off 
> Osbourne), but i'm looking forward to the end of season awards nights.

**  Yes Shane, he was an idiot (and still is for that matter).  But even so
Canberra put up a better effort than was seen on the TV.  Canberra played very 
well for an undermanned side.  But Mark  " the try scoring machine " Sargeant  
gave them curry in the second half.
	 It's a pity your blokes didn't have the same deal going as the Knights
though.  OUr boys got $100 for every point they scored yesterday, to go to the
players club, in first grade and $25 a point for reserves and Pres.Cup.  Easts
would come  close to being the richest club around if they did- grin -.

	Bad luck shane there's always next year.

"Mr Newcastle Supporter"

P.S.  You don't really think that Langer will be beaten for the Rothmans
though, come on the man has a halo round his head, just as referee Haragon.


Newsgroups: aus.sport
From: blip@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Bryan Lip)
Subject: WCE EAGLES - INVINCIBLE 1992
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 04:42:56 GMT

WELL, I AM VERY SORRY TO SAY THAT THE EAGLES ARE GOING TO "WALK ALL
OVER" HAWTHORN THIS WEEKEND AT SUBIACO OVAL... SAD BUT TRUE

(TOO BAD ALL YOU VICTORIAN SUPPORTERS, HAWTHORN CANT EVEN WALK)

THE EAGLES ARE GOING TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE GRAND FINAL AGAINST
GEELONG AND KICK THEM....

(SORRY GEELONG, BUT IT HAD TO HAPPEN)

COMMISERATIONS TO ALL YOU VICTORIANS .....

COMMENTS.... WELCOME?

BRYAN!

blip@tartarus.uwa.ed.au
Newsgroups: aus.sport
From: dlyon@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (Darren Lyon)
Subject: Re: Mr Newcastle Supporter
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 02:22:25 GMT

If you didn't write such shitty personal mail then maybe I wouldn't write
stuff to piss you off, obviously it worked. Now normal stuff.  Personally
I think all of the teams in the finals have a chance of winning.  The only
reason why the Broncos mightn't is if the feeling of a grand final gets
to them. They have proved that they can play football, it will just come
down to who's good enough on the day.  If you want to have another winge
about refs I'll agree but you must admit that the in goal ruling, and the
conversion ruling on the Illawarra try was f&^%ed.  My feelings are that
more consistancy should be brought in.  If any decisions prevail in the
semis then it will most likely effect the game in a mojor way.  They
should start by allowing the touch judges to police the "5 metres" thus 
allowing the ref to police the ruck.  In the play the ball area, players
who kick out and worm around should be penalized, how are you meant to get
off a player if he's acting like that.  My opinions of the stealing ball
rule are still undecided. A player could pull the ball out and might be
penalized, or it could honestly be a knockon on it still might be a penalty.
I know one thing, a lot of pressure is on the refs these days and the use
of the touch judges should be utilesed more.  With competition being so
close these days even little errors on the refs part could turn matches.

Being honest I hope Newcastle beat wests. For mine they are the ones
that piss the broncos off the most.  I'm not sure whether Illawarra will
beat St George, but if they do and perchance happen to beat Brisbane I
don't think the Broncos will make the mistake of losing the second. Sure
I might be a bit biased, but aren't we all. The last time they where in
the finals the got wolloped by Canberra.  As for being a parochial Bronco
sure why not, but I only responded the way I did to your mail. If your
willing I'll cut the team slagging.  Maybe we could set up an interesting
topic, something like what can be done to improve the refferring.  All
of the teams this year have copped their fair share, some more than others.
The number of penalties in the games of late has detracked from the play.

It's a piy to see Wally bow out though, he certainly adds his own touch to
the game.  At least he scored the winning try for the gulls. A fitting way
to end a fantasic career, although NSW supporters mighn't think so. It
just goes to show how tight and competitive this comp is now. No other comp
compares to the NSWRL.


Newsgroups: aus.sport
From: ednclark@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au (Jeffrey Clark)
Subject: Only thing which can stop the Broncos
Summary: Only non-level playing fields can stop Broncos victory.
Keywords: Broncos referees Sydney bias media
Organization: ITC, Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia
Date: 31 Aug 92 05:10:58 GMT

The Broncos are a better football team than any remaining in the
premiership.  They have survived the harder draw, the greater number of
representative commitments, and the medias effects on refereeing
performances. The only teams the Broncos should fear are Illawarra and
Newcastle as these two teams have also come through the difficult draw i.e.
playing Manly,Brisbane,Penrith,Canberra,Newcastle and Illawarra twice.
Everyone else has had the luxury of playing Souths, Parramatta, Norths etc
twice. However the medias effect on refereeing performances is beyond a
joke. A friend of mine from England watched a certain refereeing performance
by Graham Annesley a few weeks ago whilst in control of a Wests-Broncos
match. He was astonished that such poor and (I quote) 'obviously biased'
refereeing could be tolerated. He sincerely hoped that Annesley never had
the opportunity to control an International match. I told him calmly that
though this was worse than usual this is the sort of thing the Broncos put
up with every match. Not a whimper of protest of the refereeing performance
was noted in the media. However when a referee actually allows the same 5m
for the Broncos as a NSW team (i.e. Newcastle), he is immediately dropped to
a lower status in the refereeing heirarchy. Another referee was dropped for
allowing a Bronco's try which when given the benefit of a television replay
one could just tell it was dropped some 5 inches above ground (this event
produced in-goal judges), however when Illawarra scored a doubly knocked on
try and were given a two point conversion for kicking the conversion wide
the cheif referee (I forget his name) says that those kind of things happen.
St. George scored two illegal tries to 'beat' Wests by 1 point. The thing I
am most worried about is the obvious bias referees must show to the old
Sydney clubs (like St.George) to satisfy the media. If it was a level
playing field (which it isn't) the Broncos would win all their finals
matches by 20-30 points, however, given what I have written above, I beleive
that Brisbane will beat Illawarra in the grand final by 6 points.
Newsgroups: aus.sport
From: jkempnic@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (Jason Kempnich)
Subject: Broncos
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 12:51:13 GMT

You have to admit, the Broncos are going well.  Much better than anyone expected
they would.

They should have no trouble in tossing aside the rest of the teams.


-- 
See ya,                                 |    "I thought I was wrong, 
Jason Kempnich.                         |      but I was mistaken."
EMAIL: jkempnic@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au     |                        - Unknown.
Newsgroups: aus.sport
From: ednclark@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au (Jeffrey Clark)
Subject: Re: Tips (Was Re: How we can improve NSWRL Reffing)
Organization: ITC, Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia
Date:  2 Sep 92 10:03:46 GMT

dennis@citr.uq.oz.au (Dennis Remmer) writes:

>c9117709@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (THE SKY IS FALLING......NO I'M TIPPING OVER BACKWARDS) writes:


>>Round 1	St George v Illawarra  -  St.George

>	Illawarra

>>		Newcastle v Wests      -  Newcastle (changed my mind)

>	Newcastle


>>Round 2        Brisbane  v St George  -  St.George

>		Brisbane v Illawarra

>	Brisbane

>>		Newcastle v Illawarra  -  Newcastle

>		Newcastle v St George

>	St George

>>Round 3	Newcastle v Brisbane   -  Newcastle (Virtually home crowd adv)

>		Illawarra v St George

>	St George (although I'd like to see Illawarra v Brisbane final)

>>Grand Final	St.Goerge v Newcastle  -  St.George  (Not in my heart but on
>>							gut feeling)

>		Brisbane v St George

>	St George (possible draw... extra time win)

>Best final five I've seen in many years, very interesting and diverse.

Sorry dudes, you are all overestimating St.George, the only team they might
be able to beat in the five is Wests.

Here's my tips
 Round 1:        St.George v Illawarra  --> Illawarra by 10.
		 Newcastle v Wests      --> Newcastle by 4.

 Round 2:        Brisbane v Illawarra   --> Brisbane by 6.
		 St.George v Newcastle  --> Newcastle by 6 (barring
		                                            Newcastle injuries)
 Round 3:        Illawarra v Newcastle  --> Ummmm Illawarra by 1 (see above)

 Round 4:        Brisbane v Illawarra   --> Cakewalk to Brisbane.

Newsgroups: aus.sport
From: dlyon@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (Darren Lyon)
Subject: Mr Newcastle Supporter
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 09:43:58 GMT

To the supporter at wombat.newcastle.edu. 
Why don't you post your article you sent me so every one can see it, or
are you gutless.  Why don't you admit that Newcastle were thrashed, and
the ref was only doing his job. If Newcastle can only win by playing
offside fouling football then they are fairies. Suck shit for being court
I say. Again regarding rules, if Newcastle can throw the ball forward
like Grid Iron players then Brisbane only needs to put the ball over the
line, and not ground it.

Hang on, here's a better idea. Why don't you post all articles referring 
to Newcastle in alt.stupidity where they belong.

For mine, the Broncos will win the flag, as for Newcastle they will
lose against Canberra and the playoffs to get into the 5. Oh well,
 you will have to wait until next year for your next thrashing.

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		Darren Lyon, Griffith University
		dlyon@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au

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		"That pass must have been at least 2m forward"
- commentator observing a Newcastle pass, which lead to a try. 23/8/92

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Newsgroups: aus.sport
From: c9117709@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (THE SKY IS FALLING......NO I'M TIPPING OVER BACKWARDS)
Subject: broncomania
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 02:30:20 GMT

Mr Parochial Qldr get off your bike
Newsgroups: aus.sport
From: cwalsh@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (Craig Walsh)
Subject: Re: Gary Freeman
Organization: Macquarie University, Australia.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 01:57:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.185836.1@cc.newcastle.edu.au> c9225366@cc.newcastle.edu.au (SHANE JOHNS) writes:
>Well the Roosters season is over (Thanks to that idiot ref at the Newcastle v
>Canberra game who gave canberra no chance of winning after sending off 
>Osbourne), but i'm looking forward to the end of season awards nights.
>
>I'm inviting controversy by saying this, but... Gary Freeman should scoop
>the pool at most of them, primarily the Rothman's medal.
>
>Fair dinkum, if he doesn't pick up at least one award, especially the Rothman's
>the awards will lose a fair deal of credibility.
>
>cheers,
>        Shane

Did Freeman have the oppurtunity to win points when he missed comp rounds to 
play for New Zealand? I am pretty sure Australians were awarded points in the
internationals and State of Origin.

IMHO letting Freeman go, or kicking him out, from Balmain was the worst 
decision Jones ever made. It is totally F**Ked that Balmain have got Jones
for another year. Will I ever be able to talk about finals again.

BTW I agree Freeman should win all sorts of medals for his efforts this year.

Cralg Walsh.

Newsgroups: aus.sport
From: dlyon@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (Darren Lyon)
Subject: Re: WCE EAGLES - INVINCIBLE 1992
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 07:55:03 GMT

blip@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Bryan Lip) writes:

>WELL, I AM VERY SORRY TO SAY THAT THE EAGLES ARE GOING TO "WALK ALL
>OVER" HAWTHORN THIS WEEKEND AT SUBIACO OVAL... SAD BUT TRUE

>(TOO BAD ALL YOU VICTORIAN SUPPORTERS, HAWTHORN CANT EVEN WALK)

>THE EAGLES ARE GOING TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE GRAND FINAL AGAINST
>GEELONG AND KICK THEM....

>(SORRY GEELONG, BUT IT HAD TO HAPPEN)

>COMMISERATIONS TO ALL YOU VICTORIANS .....

>COMMENTS.... WELCOME?

>BRYAN!

>blip@tartarus.uwa.ed.au

OH SHIT, I THOUGHT THE TEAM SLAGGING WAS CONFINED TO LEAGUE. I'm glad that I
don't follow the AFL closely, good luck!!

Newsgroups: aus.sport
From: dlyon@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (Darren Lyon)
Subject: Re: Only thing which can stop the Broncos
Keywords: Broncos referees Sydney bias media
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 08:06:05 GMT

Did you read the Brisbane Sunday Mail a couple of weeks ago. The journos
wrote 10 reasons why the broncos can't, I think what you said was one of them

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		Darren Lyon, Griffith University
		dlyon@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au

	"Living on earth may be expensive, but at least it comes with
	 a free trip around the sun"

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Newsgroups: aus.sport
From: dennis@citr.uq.oz.au (Dennis Remmer)
Subject: Tips (Was Re: How we can improve NSWRL Reffing)
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 01:54:03 GMT

c9117709@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (THE SKY IS FALLING......NO I'M TIPPING OVER BACKWARDS) writes:


>Round 1	St George v Illawarra  -  St.George

	Illawarra

>		Newcastle v Wests      -  Newcastle (changed my mind)

	Newcastle


>Round 2        Brisbane  v St George  -  St.George

		Brisbane v Illawarra

	Brisbane

>		Newcastle v Illawarra  -  Newcastle

		Newcastle v St George

	St George

>Round 3	Newcastle v Brisbane   -  Newcastle (Virtually home crowd adv)

		Illawarra v St George

	St George (although I'd like to see Illawarra v Brisbane final)

>Grand Final	St.Goerge v Newcastle  -  St.George  (Not in my heart but on
>							gut feeling)

		Brisbane v St George

	St George (possible draw... extra time win)

Best final five I've seen in many years, very interesting and diverse.

regards
--
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       Dennis Remmer - dennis@citr.uq.oz.au - DennisR@syacus.acus.oz
    Australian Centre for Unisys Software, Brisbane Queensland Australia
Newsgroups: aus.sport
From: c9117709@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (THE SKY IS FALLING......NO I'M TIPPING OVER BACKWARDS)
Subject: Re: Mr Newcastle Supporter
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 03:12:44 GMT

> To the supporter at wombat.newcastle.edu. 
> Why don't you post your article you sent me so every one can see it, or
> are you gutless.  Why don't you admit that Newcastle were thrashed, and
> the ref was only doing his job. If Newcastle can only win by playing
> offside fouling football then they are fairies. Suck shit for being court
> I say. Again regarding rules, if Newcastle can throw the ball forward
> like Grid Iron players then Brisbane only needs to put the ball over the
> line, and not ground it.

** I don't have what I wrote to you Mothbrains.  Do you have much trouble
understanding the english language.  If you do recall I said that the Knights
were beaten all ends up in the second half, I was making direct reference to
the first half.  I also made mention of the Manly game in Newcastle as well
thus supporting my claim of inconsistency between the referees. **
 
> Hang on, here's a better idea. Why don't you post all articles referring 
> to Newcastle in alt.stupidity where they belong.

** Do you often step on your tongue?  If you weren't so busy bolstering  your
ego through this news group you'd find that you really do make a wanker out of
yourself by saying such inane things about where people should post articles. **
 
> For mine, the Broncos will win the flag, as for Newcastle they will
> lose against Canberra and the playoffs to get into the 5. Oh well,
>  you will have to wait until next year for your next thrashing.

** Once again if you let go of yourself fo a while you'd see that there are
more teams in the competition than your beloved Brisbane Broncos.  If you
weren't so busy tossing off over the fact that they got the minor premiership
you might have seen that there are teams currently in the five weho can match
the Broncos any day of the week.  I don't think that Newcastle will make the
Grand Final, they're not consistent enough in their play.  Equally I don't
think that Brisbane will either.  My tip for this years flag is St.George.
St George by a comfortable margin over whoever they play.

> 		"That pass must have been at least 2m forward"
> - commentator observing a Newcastle pass, which lead to a try. 23/8/92

** I'm amazed at how well you remeber what the commentators say on each
coverage.  Do you write them down as you here them, or what????

** Comments welcome from legitimate fans of the game of Rugby League (or sport
in general really) not piss head one eyed supporters who think they own the
world **

Newsgroups: aus.sport
From: sgccgjc@citec.oz.au (Graeme Cumming)
Subject: Re: When hell freezes over...
Organization: CITEC
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 04:51:31 GMT

s920841@numbat.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (James Smith) writes:

>gnb@duke.bby.com.au (Gregory N. Bond) writes:

>>There was an article on the back page of The Age (Weds 19/8) about the
>>just-announced move of the Brisbane Bears to the Gabba after signing a
>>25 year lease.  A quote from the Rt. Hon. Keith De Lacy, Queensland
>>Treasurer:

>>``Obviously, cricket alone could not sustain an upgraded Gabba and we
>>  needed a substantial winter tenant.  Now we have one and, hopefully,
>>  by the time the Bears' lease expires they will have won an AFL
>>  premiership and Queensland will have won the Sheffield Shield.''

>>Oh yeah, dream on.

>This'll only happen if the AFL sets some program up to develop footy
>talent in Queensland.  NSW and Q will continue to remain in the footy
>mires.

One can only hope so.

>James.

Graeme

Xref: sparky aus.sport:242 aus.jokes:1078
From: gnb@duke.bby.com.au (Gregory N. Bond)
Newsgroups: aus.sport,aus.jokes
Subject: When hell freezes over...
Date: 19 Aug 92 05:18:54 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Burdett, Buckeridge & Young, Melbourne, Australia

There was an article on the back page of The Age (Weds 19/8) about the
just-announced move of the Brisbane Bears to the Gabba after signing a
25 year lease.  A quote from the Rt. Hon. Keith De Lacy, Queensland
Treasurer:

``Obviously, cricket alone could not sustain an upgraded Gabba and we
  needed a substantial winter tenant.  Now we have one and, hopefully,
  by the time the Bears' lease expires they will have won an AFL
  premiership and Queensland will have won the Sheffield Shield.''

Oh yeah, dream on.
--
Gregory Bond <gnb@bby.com.au> Burdett, Buckeridge & Young Ltd, Melbourne 
That's *Mister* Chief Pointyhead to you.
Newsgroups: aus.sport,aus.jokes
From: michael@mlacus.oz.au (Michael Socic)
Subject: Re: When hell freezes over...
Organization: ACUS Australian Centre for Unisys Software, Melbourne
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 05:41:20 GMT

gnb@duke.bby.com.au (Gregory N. Bond) writes:

>There was an article on the back page of The Age (Weds 19/8) about the
>just-announced move of the Brisbane Bears to the Gabba after signing a
>25 year lease.  A quote from the Rt. Hon. Keith De Lacy, Queensland
>Treasurer:

>``Obviously, cricket alone could not sustain an upgraded Gabba and we
>  needed a substantial winter tenant.  Now we have one and, hopefully,
>  by the time the Bears' lease expires they will have won an AFL
>  premiership and Queensland will have won the Sheffield Shield.''

>Oh yeah, dream on.

Actually, they are more likely to win an AFL premiership first.....
 
Michael Socic
ACUS Melbourne