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From: fovsutt@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (VINCENT SUTTMILLER)
Subject: Re: Shelf life of beer
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 10 Apr 1992 17:06 EST  

In article <rpaolino.222@polisci.pol.umn.edu>, rpaolino@polisci.pol.umn.edu (Robert Paolino) writes...
>In article <3530@rosie.NeXT.COM> gsure@pragati.next.com (Ganesh Sure) writes:
> 
> 
>>Hi,
> 
>>Does anyone know what shelf life of commercially bought beer (in bottles)  
>>is? I have a few bottles sitting around for a year now. I am wondering if  
>>they are still good enough to drink. How can I tell?
> 
>>GS
> 
>I know I'm walking right into this, but here goes.....
> 
>		DRINK THEM.  If they taste lousy, they're not good enough.

Good advice.  Look at the beer after you open it and see if it looks OK.
I worked in a beverage store for approximately 6 years and we had some 
beers around for over a year that we found out were still good. (The owners
were gonna throw it out and I volunteered to take it off their hands.)
How the beer was stored is the important part.  Was it allowed to get
hot then cold and hot.  Was anything stacked on top of it.  Usually with
bottles the caps become loose due to stuff or other cases stacked on top
of it an air gets in and the beer goes bad.  

Don't know if this will help but the above advice about trying it is 
definitely the best.

Vince Suttmiller
NASA Lewis Research Center - Cleveland, Ohio
From: julkunen@messi.uku.fi (Antero Julkunen)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: EKU 28
Date: 14 Apr 92 11:17:43 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: University of Kuopio, Finland


I've heard about strong beer EKU 28 brewed in Kulmbach(?), Germany.
Has someone visited the brewery? Is it easy to go there? Is it possible
to buy and taste this beer in Kulmbach or elsewhere?
--
Antero Julkunen ----> Acta est fabula, plaudite <---- julkunen@messi.uku.fi
From: binkley@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Jon Binkley)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Malt Liquor
Date: 6 Apr 92 06:08:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: beagle.binkley.702540496
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

filippi1@husc9.harvard.edu (David Filippi) writes:

>What is the exact definition of 'malt liquor'?

Malt Liquor is a term invented by legislators and tax collectors
and, generally speaking, has nothing to do with beer style.
The definition varys from state to state.  Some states require
*any* beer over a certain percentage alcohol (usually 6%, I think)
to be labeled "malt liquor."

>Is there any worth drinking for any purpose besides getting drunk?

The major American brewers call their stronger products malt liquor
by default; e.g., Schlitz, Colt 45, Olde English 800, Mickey's, etc.
Although I'm sure we'll get some dissenting opinions from the peanut
gallery, I'll state that none of these are worth drinking for
any purpose other than getting drunk.

HOWEVER, given that some backward states require any strong beer
to be called malt liquor, some very fine beers occasionally end up
with this lable.  These would include all Barley Wines, Dopplebocks,
Imperial Stouts, and Belgian Tripples, and some Scotch Ales, India
Pale Ales, Bocks, and Belgian Dubbles.  These styles are all well
worth trying, especially since they are robust enough to withstand
the horrors of importing and storage.

They're also very good for getting porcelain-hugging drunk in a
big hurry.

Jon Binkley
Newsgroups: alt.beer,alt.backrubs,alt.sex,alt.sex.not,alt.sex.bondage,alt.sex.bestiality
From: ars@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Ali R. Siddiqui)
Subject: PARTY TIME
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 08:56:44 GMT

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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: farnham@spot.Colorado.EDU (Farnham Dave)
Subject: Re: IF YOU'RE JUST GOING TO POUND BEERS...
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 18:23:59 GMT

Please re-post the answers to: THE DEFINATIVE BEER QUIZ.

THANKS!
From: mchinander@gacvx2.gac.edu
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: In search of New Zealand beer
Date: 8 Apr 92 05:43:52 GMT
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter, Minnesota

Can anyone tell me where I can find some New Zealand beer(besides Steinlager's)
 in the U.S such as Lion Red or D.B. Export? 
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: minich@bucknell.edu (matthew minich `93)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Home brew
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:00:30 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, Pa.

In article <1992Apr6.234859.17289@comp.vuw.ac.nz>, Taron.Moncrieff@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Taron Moncrieff) writes:
> 
> One Hard rock asked the other day for info on how to brew beer

Try rec.crafts.brewing, it is very imformative for all levels of home brewing.  I don't have a FAQ from that group but I know there is one and it is very informative on how to get started brewing.
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Saturday, 11 Apr 1992 12:11:18 EDT
From: Herschel Browne <HERSCH@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Munich beer restaurants?
Distribution: alt
 <1992Apr10.084420.5384@vax.oxford.ac.uk>

In article <1992Apr10.084420.5384@vax.oxford.ac.uk>, nagrwb@vax.oxford.ac.uk
says:
>
>Try the Hofbrauhaus (spelling ?) - authentic atmosphere for sure.

Yeah, if kitschy "Gemuetlichkeit" and a clientele composed mostly
of tourists and German teenagers, all getting sloppy drunk, is
your idea of authentic atmosphere, the Hofbraeuhaus is the place
to go. Matthaeser Bierstadt is marginally less disgusting, although
so large it's like having a beer at the St. Louis airport.

For very good food and excellent beer, and atmosphere that doesn't
club you over the head, I recommend Augustiner Restaurant on
Kaufinger/Neuhauser (the main pedestrian shopping street between
Marienplatz and Stacchus). In the summer they also have a beer
garden, but I've never been there in the summer.

If you want *real* atmosphere, try having a bratwurst and a couple
of beers in the main railway station about 8:30 or 9 in the
morning. All kinds of *authentic* types will likely approach you.

H.
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: kyle@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Kyle Wohlmut)
Subject: Re: Pete's available on draught
Followup-To: alt.beer, kyle@csli.stanford.edu
Summary: Pete's available on draught (ummm...)
Keywords: Pete's, draught, available-- how much more clear can we be...?
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Distribution: public, world, inner planets
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 22:07:13 GMT

In article <m14430.703363898@mwunix> m14430@mwunix.mitre.org (Lawrence
"Don't call me Larry" Larson) writes:

>The current issue of the west coast beer newspaper (Celebrator?) has a full-
>page Pete's ad on the back cover. It states that Pete's is now available on
>draught and has an 800 number you can call to find the nearest location...

Well fancy that!  That's what I call service... 
Thanks, but I've already been inundated with responses of where to get
the Wicked stuff on draught in my area.  Fine, fine, I'm perfectly
happy to eat my words on that one-- as long as I get to wash them down
with a heady draught of Pete's... will post a follow-up after I get
skuttered on the stuff...

-/-/-/-/-/-/
Kyle
'Blues is at once the disease and the cure.' --Unidentified Swabian
 Wise Man
/-/-/-/-/-/-
From: "nick zentena" <nick.zentena@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: canadian beer trade b
Date: 12 Apr 92 12:50:03 EST
Reply-To: "nick zentena" <nick.zentena@canrem.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Canada Remote Systems


KF>If I'm not greatly mistaken, Budweiser is brewed under licence here
KF>in Canada; it is not imported. As for being expensive, *all* beer is
KF>expensive in Canada :-(

        Hi,
                Here in Ontario your both right and wrong.
                Bud is brewed under license but I think some
                is also imported.

                        Nick
---
  DeLuxe 1.21 #9621  I don't need no stinking corn in my beer
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario/Detroit, MI
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: shag@aero.org (Robert M. Unverzagt)
Subject: tewst
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Distribution: la
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 14:40:06 GMT

test test tes


-- 
                          |
      Rob Unverzagt       |     Hey you, Whitehouse,
 shag@aerospace.aero.org  |     Ha ha, charade you are.
                          |                             -- The Pink Floyd
From: nsmcintyre@uwovax.uwo.ca
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Canadian beer trade barriers to be dropped
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:53:13 EST

In article <1992Apr2.060741.22827@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, umcarman@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Chris D. Carman) writes:
> I think the entire purpose of the Canadian Government's decision
> to lower the trade restrictions on beer is to give the Canadian
> brewers a chance to export their product into the much larger
> U.S. market. 
>  
> While I'm not overwhelmed by the thought of the local breweries
> closing down, I hope that this decision will, in time, lower the
> cost of beer imported from overseas.  I'm getting tired of paying
> $5.50 for a pint of Newcastle Brown Ale or Bass Pale.
>  
> Fortunately, we here in Manitoba have the option of purchasing a
> rather nice beer from Saskatchewan that is made by an employee-
> run brewery:  Great Western.  The beer isn't all that bad.  Their
> recent "Christmas Goose" malt beer went over quite well with my
> taste buds!
>  
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: danno@css.itd.umich.edu (Daniel T. Pritts)
Subject: Re: Cheapest Beer??
Organization: U of Michigan, ITD Research Systems
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 03:11:00 GMT

In article <mah2.702285658@Isis.MsState.Edu> mah2@ra.msstate.edu  
(Michael Andrew Hodges) writes:
> Hey, I have heard the best beers and the worst beers but YET have I  
heard
> what the best cheapest beers are!!!!

My personal faves are Black Label (24/12oz longnecks for $7.99) and  
Old Style (lately available: 20/12oz cans for $6.99).  

Mabel...Another Black Label!
--
dan pritts
computer systems consultant
university of michigan itd consulting and support services
dan.pritts@umich.edu    (nextmail ok, but note in subject line)
313/998-6265
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: jburney@seamis1.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jeff Burney)
Subject: Re: Polar Beer?
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 13:28:44 GMT

rpaolino@polisci.pol.umn.edu (Robert Paolino) writes:

> Polar is from Venezuela, a country well known for 
>its cold weather and polar bears!

>It's okay, I guess, for a beer that you can see through, but I wouldn't go 
>out of my way to find it or pay very much for it.

I drank gallons of Polar (pronounced Po-lar) when in Venezuela last year.
Very good quafability factor (that's a technical term so if you're
unfamiliar, don't ask) during those sweltering So. American days.  But
better still is the Polar Bock aka Polar Dark in the States.  Neither beer
has a whole lot of taste and the dark is very sweet.

As for where else to get it...some liquor store in New Jersey (helpful
eh? :)) and at the Brickskeller in DC.

See Ya,
--
Jeff Burney                     | Icky, Icky, Icky, Icky, Ptang,
jburney@seamis1.gsfc.nasa.gov   | Loomfong, Zowzing.
SES, Inc.  301-439-6617         |		- Holy Grail
NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center|
From: cm0o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Craig Arno Mrusek)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: GREAT CHEAP BEERS!
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:17:20 GMT
Organization: Senior, Art, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I've been told by most of my friends that my taste in beer sucks , but
what the hell.  Here's my two cents:

		***My Top Three Penny-Pinching Brands***


3)  Iron City ( Okay, maybe not so cheap, but I'm a native Pittsburgher,
so 	sue me.  I don't know what the distribution is like outside the
	Pittsburgh area,  so someone surprise me and say they've managed 	to
find a bottle in some far flung region.)

2)  Schaefer ( Among myself and my friends, this is the brand that get
	purchased most frequently.  Like someone mentioned earlier, it 	really
is the best combination of taste and low price.  Around here 	we can
usually find a case of 12 oz. for 7 bucks, and 16's usually run 	between
9-11 bucks.)

And the winner is...

1)  GENESSEE CREAM ALE  ( Not quite as cheap as Schaefer in these parts,
but I like it enough to spend the extra dollar or two.  Of course I
realize that I am one of approximately 14 people in the known world who
actually *like* GCA (or at least admit it!), so let the insults fly. 
I'm used to it...)


						Happy Guzzling,



								-Craig
From: mrpabst@blue.ribbon.ncsu.edu (matt)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: re: please repost the DEFINITIVE BEER QUIZ
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:52:16 GMT
Reply-To: mrpabst@blue.ribbon.ncsu.edu (matt)
Organization: NCSU Brewing Department, Cheap Beer Laboratory

for everyone who has been looking for the DEFINITIVE BEER QUIZ:

i didn't save it online :(

does anyone out there have a copy of it?

otherwise, i'll retype it... 

--------------
matt "mrpabst"
From: nagrwb@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Munich beer restaurants?
Date: 10 Apr 92 07:44:20 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Oxford University VAXcluster

In article <JULKUNEN.92Apr8154111@messi.uku.fi>, julkunen@messi.uku.fi (Antero Julkunen) writes:
> 
> I'm interested in information concerning GOOD beer restaurants (houses)
> in Munich, Germany. Has someone visited these?
> --
> Antero Julkunen ----> Acta est fabula, plaudite <---- julkunen@messi.uku.fi 
Try the Hofbrauhaus (spelling ?) - authentic atmosphere for sure.
-- 
** R.W. Brankin -- Numerical Algorithms Group Ltd. -- nagrwb@vax.ox.ac.uk **
**   suggestions for sig. welcome   --   will need   include<std.discl>   **
From: brown@slc8.INS.CWRU.Edu (Dan Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Malt Liquor ** & Beer storage
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:42:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr15.184236.14457
Organization: Subversive Student Publications un-inc.

In an earlier posting <FNOTMAN@ESTEC.BITNET> writes:
> P.S. Chimay is the only brewery to my knowlege who make a standard brew where
>they always put the year (I.E. "VINTAGE") on teh bottle. That particular brew

Oh come on... there are lots of beers that date their beers... Thomas Hardy's
even has serial numbers on each bottle. The date follows the number. For
example, I one labled: No. B82918 1987. The B is printed in bold black ink,
looks like the rest of the lable, as does the date. The 82918 is in red 
ink. I would be interested to know the meaning of the numbers, if any...


>is in large bottles (3/5 litle I think, i.e. wine bottle sized) and comes
>complete with a wired cork (a la champers).

Yes... I like to buy a bottle of Chimay like this, and share it with a bunch
of people. I personally think that it tastes a bit better than Chimay in
small bottles, but it is probably just me. 

-- 
Dan Brown
brown@ins.cwru.edu
From: mbfeld@amherst.edu
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Name a beer! Any beer!
Date: 4 Apr 92 01:17:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: amherst.1992Apr3.211703.1
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst, MA.

I am sure that you beer drinking folks have got this question a MILLION times,
but here it is again:

What is a good beer to drink?

To qualify that statement:

I am looking for a beer which
(1) is no more than $5 per six, maybe less;
(2) is (of course) very good;
(3) has a flavor on the mild side, so that I can drink a few without being
overwhelmed;
(4) is either
	(a) a brand that can be obtained at any well-stocked liquor store
(although it need not be the kind of brand advertised on TV), or
	(b) a brand that would be available in New England (Western
Massachusetts in particular).

Please! Be opinionated.  Mail, post, whatever. Thanks!

Marlon Feld
mbfeld@amherst.edu

P.S. A really good beer to drink is Upper Canada Dark Ale, although it passes
only (2) and _maybe_ (3) of the four criteria above.
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: norm@sdc.com (Norm)
Subject: Re: Per Capita Beer Consumption
Organization: Systems Development Corporation
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 18:44:14 GMT

In article <ooiViB1w164w@xocolatl.com> ssmith@eoin.net.netcom.com (Shannon Smith) writes:
>wardrb@cs.utexas.edu (Richard Byron Ward) writes:
>
>>> In article <1992Apr2.225616.11251@sdc.com> norm@sdc.com (Norm) writes:
>>> Anyone have any stats on tavern density or per capita beer drinking in the 
>>> US?  I've heard that LaCrosse, Wisconsin has the most bars per capita.
>> 
>> Actually, I've heard that New Orleans has the most bars per capita of any
>> city in the world.
>> Rick
>
>Hmmm... little Nederland, Colorado, population ~1500, has 4 bars & 2
>liquor stores.  I wonder how that would compare, on a per-capita
>basis?
>
If you wanted the most extreme example, I saw a TV segment about a town in
Ireland that had about a dozen people but two pubs. -Norm
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: snroettg@faui09.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Stefan Roettger)
Subject: Re: EKU 28
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen, Germany
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 13:59:58 GMT

julkunen@messi.uku.fi (Antero Julkunen) writes:


>I've heard about strong beer EKU 28 brewed in Kulmbach(?), Germany.
>Has someone visited the brewery? Is it easy to go there? Is it possible
>to buy and taste this beer in Kulmbach or elsewhere?
>--
>Antero Julkunen ----> Acta est fabula, plaudite <---- julkunen@messi.uku.fi 

Yes, its from Kulmbach! Visit the brewery as you like
(EKU = Erste Kulmbacher Aktienbrauerei)
But its not worth tasting, strong but incredibly sweet. Uargh!
Besides this EKU beers aren't good beers at all.
If you wanna drink some good stuff I highly recommend
Kitzmann, Lederer, Warsteiner, Hohenschwaerz to name only
some of the most popular beers here in Franken.
--
Stefan Roettger
Student of Computer Science
snroettg@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
Xerox your live! If you lose one it's better to have a copy!
From: ftit@engin.umich.edu (Sergej Roytman)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: storing beer
Date: 4 Apr 92 17:10:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: engin.Jhh+GaA
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <wiley.702319814@crooks> wiley@wiley.b11.ingr.com writes:
|steffy@bnr.ca (David Steffy) writes:
|
|>How long does beer keep?
|
|Very high gravity beers like Thomas Hardy's and bottle conditioned
|beers (meaning bottled with live yeast) generally age much better
|than other beers.  Most commercial beers not fitting into the
|above categories are best as soon as you can get them.  I've had
|good luck storing homebrew for up to two years and tasting the
|better for it, although I know some well respected homebrewers
|who would disagree.  Or at least they wouldn't speak so generally.
|

How about temperature?  At what temperature should the stuff be kept?

Sergej Roytman
From: ssmith@eoin.net.netcom.com (Shannon Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Per Capita Beer Consumption
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:32:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: xocolatl.ooiViB1w164w
Organization: Amethyst Systems

wardrb@cs.utexas.edu (Richard Byron Ward) writes:

> In article <1992Apr2.225616.11251@sdc.com> norm@sdc.com (Norm) writes:
> |I've heard that people in the Queensland area of Australia drink over 60
> |gallons of beer per capita per annum.  Anyone have any stats on tavern densi
> |or per capita beer drinking in the US?  I've heard that LaCross, Wisconsin h
> |the most bars per capita but that was long ago.
> |
> |Cheers, Norman
> 
> 
> Actually, I've heard that New Orleans has the most bars per capita of any
> city in the world.  Oddly enough, they also have the most churches per
> capita...  More New Orleans trivia: Pat O'Briens is the largest bar in
> the world in terms of alcohol served.
> 
> Rick

Hmmm... little Nederland, Colorado, population ~1500, has 4 bars & 2
liquor stores.  I wonder how that would compare, on a per-capita
basis?

And then there's Bond, Colorado, pop 23, way the hell & gone in the NE area
of the state, with The Beanery--live entertainment on Fridays, when
the ranch hands wander in.

A'course, these aren't properly cities--though Nederland is a
Town.:-)

---
Shannon Smith                     ssmith@xocolotl.com

     "For the world trusts us with power... they trust
      us to do what's right."    
                   G. Bush, "State of the Union," 1992
From: colvin@oyster.smcm.edu (Tim Colvin)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Beer Food Recipes
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:25:31 GMT
Reply-To: colvin@oyster.smcm.edu



I am looking for some recipies that include beer.  Is there any in the  
archives, or is there a book, or does anyone have any to post?!

Thanks in Advance
Tim Colvin
Colvin@oyster.smcm.edu

Buuurrrapp!!!!
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From:  ()
Subject: Re: Beer Food Recipes
Organization: Trinity College, Hartford, CT.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 23:15:16 GMT

In article <12542@umd5.umd.edu>, colvin@oyster.smcm.edu (Tim Colvin) writes:
> 
> 
> 
> I am looking for some recipies that include beer.  Is there any in the  
> archives, or is there a book, or does anyone have any to post?!
> 
> Thanks in Advance
> Tim Colvin
> Colvin@oyster.smcm.edu
> 
> Buuurrrapp!!!!
> 
> 
Zymurgy, a publication put out by the AHA ( American Homebrewers Association ) has a section in
every issue called the brewgal gourmet.   In this section they give various recipes for great foods
made with the beers of the season.   If anyone is interested in getting ahold of these I would be
willing to post some of them.   What kind of recipes are you looking for ? there are all kinds. Bread,
Soup, Main courses, etc...

I Brew therefore I am
																																		Tym McDowell
TMCDOWEL@VAX1.TRINCOLL.EDU