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In comp.sys.mac.hardware, wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes) writes:

> Well, just flipping thru the latest Mac Zone catalog, they have a 5 GB
> hammerDAT 5000 for $2594.  MacWarehouse has a 2 GB PowerUser Pro DAT
> drive for $1799.  I don't know how much DAT tapes cost, but they use just
> regular audio DATs, don't they?  I can't imagine them being more than $10,
> max.
> -- 

Depends how much you value your data.  The HP guys in the building next
door build HP's DAT mechanisms, which are OEM'ed (i.e. bought in) by many
suppliers.  They do more testing than you'd readily believe on the tapes.
The authoritative word is that it *is* worth paying the price premium (say
$18/tape instead of $10/tape) for the "DDS" grade tapes.  As I remember it,
one of the significant reasons is that the mechanics of the tape (case,
rollers, etc.) are made to stricter tolerances; the medium itself is also
less prone to dropouts and other tape nasties.  Using lower-quality tape
can wear the heads on your pricey drive faster than you'd like.

Now, these considerations matter a lot if you're backing up a server with
many people's work on it.  You may enjoy explaining that you can't recover
the files after a disk crash 'coz you decided to pay $200 for 20 tapes
rather than $360; I wouldn't.  Media might be less critical for a little-used
DAT mech --- but I can't see many people spending 1.5 or 2k$ for a 2GB+
backup device for their 80MB single-user Mac.

Several users (over in comp.sys.hp) have reported audio-grade tapes working
just fine in their HP DAT drives.  It's simply that you've a higher, though
still quite low, *probability* of a Nasty at exactly the time you don't
want one.  The DDS grade is certainly *not* a conspiracy by Sony, HP, or
anyone else, to con you into paying more for your media.

Cheers, Stefek
From: tims@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Trackballs
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:52:43 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

In article <72826@apple.Apple.COM> anderson@Apple.COM (Clark Anderson) 
writes:
>geno@arco.com: >>experience with trackballs?:
>>Trackballs seem to have a love/hate relationship with their users.
>>I don't like them, the tension from keeping my hand over the
>>ball makes my hand sore.



Check out the MicroSpeed MacTrac trackball.  The ergonomic design gives the 
user a sloped angle from the desktop to the ball.  I can use mine for hours 
without any problems.  My hand rests on the slope, so there is little 
stress.  I have used the Kensington, Stingray and the Silhouette and like 
my MacTrac the best.

TIMS@BVC.EDU
From: gggj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: HELP! 3MB after 2MB upgrade PB100?!!?
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:54:12 EDT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Cornell University

I just installed what I thought was a 2mb upgrade card into my PB100, and when
I boot, it says Total Memory: 3072 K.  Now, shouldnt I have 4048K?  Did this
person sell me a 1MB card ??  Do 1MB PB RAM cards exist?

Please help asap!

Scott
607-256-4217

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: leonard@cs.UAlberta.CA (Leonard Harris)
Subject: PB100's where is stock? (again!)
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 03:50:49 GMT

Hi - Does anyone know of a place that has PB100's 4/40's in stock! Anywhere!
I need either an ad or a quote from a place that sells them.  There still
is plenty of them in Canadian stores but they want $1750 for them.  Some
stores say they will match U.S. prices but the stores must have current 
stock.
Thanks
/Leonard
From: de19@umail.umd.edu (Dana S Emery)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Whatdya think of a vendor who
Date: 4 Oct 92 08:45:41 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Personal

The following is hypothetical:

You see an add for a refurbished Mac, and since it is out of state, you
contact the store by phone.  They say its got a new HD, new 1.44 floppy,
and some software, would you like system 6.0.8 installed?
You pay by plastic, and the unit arives by ups in good time.

It fires up, and the internal HD works (at first), but the floppy is real
fussy, even with virgin disks.  The external SCSI port doesnt like your Ext
HD, which works just fine on systems elsewhere.  After a bit of fussing
about, the external decides to mount, and then the internal drops out,
things are flakey for a while, and finally neither show.  All this during
the first 2 days of ownership.

You call up, and they say, okay, send it back, well reimburse the UPS. 
BUT, we would like to have the external also, so we can do a full system
integration :-o

After some discusion, and some queasy fealings, you pack it all up and send
it back.  After diagnosis, they say the problem was a bad internal cable,
and return it fixed.  They say the external was ok, and they install common
drivers on both HD.

Upon receipt (UPS again), the CPU and internal HD is fine, dependable even,
as is the floppy.  but the external HD fails its self test, in a manner
which the manufacturor proclaims fixable only at the factory.  In a fit of
paranoia, you check the serial, and it is the same unit you sent.

Oh, and of course the store wants to take another wack at the ext HD :-(

?????

so, since everything was done by phone, very little paper exists, all
concerning the HD was verbal.  The HD ain gonna be cheap to fix, and I have
this sinking feeling that the cost may be difficult to recover.

As I see it, the store had no buisness asking for the external, and
certainly no buisness volunteering the systems integration.  It remains to
be seen if the damage to the HD will be attributed to physical shock, or to
clumsy techs.

If the HD had been purchased from them, the law certainly would allow them
to decide repair/replace, but since it was purchased elswhere, that seems
unclear.  Also, the manufacturor of the drive recommends against allowing
anyone else (especially them) to attempt repair, so one wonders if the
manufacturors statement would override any legal claims they might have.

the floor is open for commentary.

--

Dana S Emery <de19@umail.umd.edu> | "Novo, de Novo,
                                  |     de novo, de no-o-o-o-o---, 
                                  | Novemba come an' dey gonna go home."
From: oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Performas by Mail-order?
Date: 25 Sep 92 16:43:06 GMT
Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

David Blackburn (dblackbu@carr11.alleg.edu) wrote:
: 
: Does anyone know if the Performas will be sold thru mail-order houses like  
: MacWarehouse, MacConnection,  etc? If Apple's getting looser about  
: distribution, we could see some good bargains on these.
: --
:
	I've tried to answer by email, but it bounced twice. Anyway, here are
my $0.02.
	As you know, the Performas are marketed thruogh the US only, noone
here in France seems to have heard about them. Needless to say, they seem to
be real bargains (esp the Perf600). To make a long stroy short, i looked
thruogh MacUser for mailorder houses which have free international number,
i found only ONE house. Guess which one ?, MACCENTER, the infamous MacCenter
which has been flammed to death during the last week. Well, i called them
and the guy on the other line didn't speak French, but he could understand my
English. He said that they didn't have Performas in stock, that they would
have them sure in a month, but that he couldn't give me a firm price. BUT,
he said that the P600 would ship for $1700-$1800, it seems compatible with
the price suggested by Apple for the P600-CD (~2500).
	Needless to say, i'll NEVER deal with them. I'll by more than happy
if MacConnection sells them, even for $200 more the price will still be VERY
attractive.
From: resch@TEETOT.ACUSD.EDU (Keith Resch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: NEC MacSync problem...
Date: 30 Sep 92 04:13:37 GMT

I seem to be having a problem with my 2 year old NEC MacSync HC monitor.
I have it hooked up to a Mac II with an Apple 4%8 video card.  I seem to
be noticing more and more that my black in the displayable part of the
screen seems to be turning a more brownish color every day.  I've always
had After Dark on a screensaver that does infact save you screen opposed
to those that just look cool.  I have been using MaxApple Zoom for about
1/2 year and I notice now that the "black" on the screen gets more brown
when it's on.  i.e. the screen "black" is darker when MAZ is off?  what
could be the problem?  I've tried adjusting the contrast and the
brightness and that seems to have no effect on getting it darker even
when both are turned all the way down.  Has anyone else expreienced
anything like this?  I do notice that in the desktop when I open a large
window (a lot of white showing) the brightness of the screen seems to go
down. is that normal?
thanks
_____________________________________________________________
Keith Resch  -  University of San Diego School of Engineering
		(resch@teetot.acusd.edu)
From: markwang@athena.mit.edu (Mark Y Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: SE to SE/30: Worth It?
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:02:37 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Sep26.145809.1136@doug.cae.wisc.edu> jimy@vlsidsp.ece.wisc.edu (Jim K. H. Yu) writes:
>But a SE/30 with additional video card would have cost (before it
>became obsolete) more than a IIsi today (at least here in the US).

Why the comparison to past prices (a mac plus used to cost more than a
IIsi today also)?

The current cost for a used SE/30+video card+monitor is a couple hundred
less than a new IIsi+FPU+monitor (same monitors/keyboards with equal
ram/hdisk configurations), but the onboard video will slow the IIsi
down.  If you want to speed up the IIsi with a video card or cache card,
sure it'll be faster than a SE/30, but it'll also be several hundred
more expensive.

For SE/30 owners wanting color, they should get a video card and color
monitor.  I doubt that anyone would suggest selling their machine and
spending a couple hundred more to buy a slower and less portable IIsi.
Or spending many hundreds more on gizmos to make the jump from 16mhz to
20mhz when a Daystar 33mhz PowerCache (that doesn't use the PDS/video
slot) is available for about the same cost.

Mark


--
Mark Wang   (markwang@athena.mit.edu)
From: mirsky@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (David Joshua Mirsky)
Subject: stylewriter & grayscale
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 23:18:15 GMT


Is it possible to printimages in grayscale with a stylewriter. What additional
software or hardware is needed?
 
Thanks
David Mirsky
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: mwnorman@bcarh929bnr.ca (Michael Norman)
Subject: Performas, LCII's and questions!
Keywords: Performa, LCII, fpu, orphan-computer
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:46:48 GMT

I've been thinking about getting my Dad a Mac LC-type
computer (he currently has a Apple IIe clone, so the
LC's IIe-card is attractive).  The newly-announced
Performa 400 is supposed to be a re-packaged LCII,
right?  Has anything been 'fixed' in this version?
Like memory past 10Megs, sound, 32-bit clean,
floating-point co-processor, etc, etc???

How far apart is this Mac from other Macs - if I
bought, say a Performa 600, will there be any
'gotchas' with respect to my machine and Dad's
machine sharing data and/or applications?

Another question is 'Are any of the current line
of Macs going to become "orphan" Macs?'
------------
Mike Norman,c/o Bell-Northern Research 
P.O. Box 3511 Station 'C' Ottawa 
Ontario Canada K1Y 4H7 M/S 115      Internet: mwnorman@bnr.ca
tel: (613) 763-7717 (FAX:613-763-7742) 
"Hasta la vista, Baby!" A. Schwarzenegger
From: claudio@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Claudio S. Nascimento;E303)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Mac LC II - What is going on??
Date: 28 Sep 92 09:50:14 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London


Hi,

I have purchased a Mac LC II 4/40 a month ago, and have
experienced some strange problems. I would really appreciate if
somebody could throw some light on these..

These problems happen with and without extensions/cdev/inits
loaded (I have pressed the shift key to disable them). They
also happen whether the monitor (a 12" color) is in b&w or
color mode.

I also have been unable to repeat them consistently (i.e. they
happen at no specific way, I mean, they may happen any
time, whether I have just turned the machine on or have been
using it for hours).

I must say that it does not happen very often, but just enough
to get worried.

problems:

1) Quite often, I get the message "application unknown
unexpetdly quit. Error of type 1 has occurred".

What does it mean? How to solve it? (once I got the same
message but with a 90 instead of 1).

If I run the same application again, it usually run ok. This
problem happened with the shareware game Susan and with the
comercial game Mutant Beach (among other applications)

2) This problem really worries me. When using an application,
sometimes the screen freezes up. When i move the mouse, I can
see it (the mouse) on one portion of the screen and on the
other portion it just disappears. For example, it happened to
me yesterday, and at about half of the screen I could not see
the mouse.

When this happens, I have to restart the machine.

It happened to me using the game Mutant Beach and (gasp!!!!)
using Microsoft Word 4 (and I lost some typing on that).

What is going on?

Claudio
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Andreas Wuertz <wuertz@tik.ethz.ch>
Subject: Re: Two pixels contineously lit in PB100....
Organization: Federal Institute of Technology
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:14:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.135359.5068@ecl.psu.edu> Aravind Melligeri,
ASM@snowyt.me.psu.edu writes:
>I bought a new PB100 couple days back. Today when i was looking at it
closely, 
>I realised that two of the pixels on the screen [ one below other] are
on all 
>time. Is it some kind of defective??. It doesn't bother me much but,
still when
>i buy something new everything should be perfect right!.
>please let me know what i can do about this. 
Give it back and have it mended. There are limits for defects of a new
LCD. I'm not sure, but I think there may be up to 5 pixels that are NEVER
black, and up to one that's ALWAYS black (but i maybe up to three). Find
this out and if you're beyond limits, have the LCD replaced under
warranty.

Andy (wuertz@systech.tik.ethz.ch)

========================================================================
The only person who got all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: rlw@elan (Robert Wald)
Subject: Re: Cache Card Sizes
Organization: Princeton University, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: 28 Sep 92 05:25:30 GMT

kayser@nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov (Susan E. Kayser NSSDC/STX (301)513-1673) writes:

>In article <0ehDejS00WBL46lltJ@andrew.cmu.edu>, Eric Andrew Morgan <em31+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes...
>>I have a Mac IIci with 8megs of memory and would like to buy an
>>unaccelerated Cache card, e.g. no PowerCache, etc.  Is there any real
>>performance difference between the 32k, 64k and 128k cache cards?  What
>>are some reliable, and CHEAP cache cards?  Thanks in advance.

>There isn't supposed to be much difference in performance for the larger 


  I got a 64K LogiCache for $129 (+$8 shipping) from a place in the back of
MacUser. But as far as I can tell, it is making no difference (and it
should). Specifically, I've run Speedometer tests, and except for one
or two video tests, it's actually running slower with the cache card
installed. Is there another utility which can tell for sure if the card
is working? Is Speedometer reliable (I downloaded the latest version in
one of the archives)? 


Also, I fooled around with setting the RAM cache to 1024K so that applications
would all run in Bank B, but this also had no effect. Is there another
way to force stuff to bank B?



Thanks
From: mr@delfin.com (Mark Rosenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Is This Mail Order Dealer OK?
Summary: Good/bad experiences with Computer Design and Graphics Systems (FL) requested
Keywords: mail order dealers
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:41:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: delfin.1992Sep30.224153.14571
Organization: Delfin Systems, Sunnyvale, CA.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Computer Design and Graphic Systems in Ft. Myers, FL is quoting some very
good mail-order prices. Has anyone dealt with them? Are they trustworthy?
From: craig_williams@qmgate.fnal.gov (Craig Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: New Mac Price Cuts
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Date: 2 Oct 1992 18:39:22 GMT
Organization: Fermilab @ Batavia, IL
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnpm02.fnal.gov

In article <10554@baird.cs.strath.ac.uk>, cr@cs.strath.ac.uk (Chris Reid)
wrote:
> 
> Does anybody know whether Apple plan to cut prices in the UK as well?
> 

I know they *were* fairly good, but what about the education prices?? I
mean now, the Sears price is only a couple hundred more than the Education
price on a Classic II (according to my newspaper this morning and my NIU
price sheet)
Does anyone have a date for new ed prices?

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From: ford@euclid.uoregon.edu (Benjamin J. Ford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Powerbook 100 Prices
Keywords: Twin Cities, Knoxville
Date: 27 Sep 92 00:27:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: nntp.1992Sep27.002708.3265
Reply-To: ford@euclid.uoregon.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services

I know this is getting old, but....

Could anyone who knows of places that still have the PB100 cheap
in either Mpls/St. Paul, MN, or Knoxville, TN, or places that do mail
order, please e-mail me the store names?  I'm in Oregon, and don't have 
access to papers in those cities (if you know of a source near Eugene, OR, 
let me know that, too, though I've looked a bit...).

Thanks.

Ben Ford
ford@euclid.uoregon.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: andreasm@cs.tu-berlin.de (Andreas Mueller)
Subject: Looking for best buy in Ney York
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 11:09:57 GMT

Hi,
I am looking for the address of a mac selling store, which is really cheap 
in Ney York. My girlfriend is in New York now and I would like, that she brings a Quadra back to Germany. It is very urgent. I would appreciate any hints.

Thanks in advance.

andreasm@cs.tu-berlin.de (Andreas Mueller)
Technical University of Berlin, Germany
From: shu@uicadh.csl.uiuc.edu (Tzi-Hsiung Shu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: New Mac Price Cuts
Date: 28 Sep 1992 21:23:03 GMT
Organization: Coordinated Science Lab., University of Illinois
NNTP-Posting-Host: uicadh.csl.uiuc.edu

This surely is a good news for a student like me in the
market for a MAC. :)

Anyone care to comment how long it will take for the price cut
to be reflected in the asking prices of Apple dealers?

shu
From: stine@jeeves.ucsd.edu (Blaine Stine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Do you think a Color Pivot/LE will work with a PB 160?
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:14:28 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Well the subject about says it. I know that nobody has their 
hands on a PB 160 yet but it seems like it would be a great
match if it works!

Blaine Stine
stine@jeeves.ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: lukel@ecs.comm.mot.com (Luke Lin)
Subject: Dead Powerbook Battery
Organization: Motorola Independent Test Team
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:34:27 GMT

I have a PowerBook 140 which dies as soon as you unplug the power from
the back.  I suspect that I have a dead battery.  The question is: Is
it healthy to keep the battery inside the machine even though it doesn't
charge?  I don't know how long it's going to take for me to find the time
to buy another battery.  Would it be better for me to yank the battery out
and use the PB without a battery?  

Luke
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From: flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip Russell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Let's talk Performas, Boys and Girls
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:05:35 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <DRAND.92Sep29110437@spinner.osf.org> drand@spinner.osf.org (Douglas S. Rand) writes:
>In article <1992Sep27.005645.2541@daffy.cs.wisc.edu> howes@cat13.cs.wisc.edu (Glenn Howes) writes:
>
>   In article <1992Sep26.235148.4790@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung) writes:
>   >edcrwfrd@unlv.edu (Edward Crawford) writes:
>   >>I doubt the performa 600 is mono, it may be but i doubt that.
>   >
>   >I could be wrong, but I think I read it (600 having mono sound) in the 
>   >latest issue of MacWorld...
>
>
>   On page 115 of the November 1992 issue of MacWorld 
>    ...There are the standard mono sound input and stereo sound output.
>					 ^^^^^                  ^^^^^^ 
>
>In MacUser the sound was listed as monaural input and output with
>stereo output from the CD player only.

This is something I've never considered before.

Do any other Macs have stereo input?

flip


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From: tjfs@tadtec.uucp (Tim Steele)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: New PB100 2/20 external floppy won't read HD disks properly
Date: 28 Sep 92 00:53:12 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Tadpole Technology plc

Well, my local Apple dealer warned me the external floppies weren't
very reliable and it looks as if he's right.

Maybe it has something to do with Apple not shipping them with the
yellow shipping disk like they used to?

Anyone else had this problem?

I'll ask my local dealer tomorrow to fix it.

Tim
From: weihmayer@gte.com (Robert Weihmayer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: NEC CDR-74 info wanted (bad experiences ?)
Date: 6 Oct 92 01:40:39 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware

In article <1992Oct1.174456.9774@news.columbia.edu>,
spr@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian P Ruta) wrote:
> 
> I realize that this topic was recently covered, but I was not in the
> market for a cd-rom unit then.  I am looking at the nec 74, but recall
> reading news about problems netters were having w/ them.  
> 
> Since I am getting this for my work, we need it yesterday, and cant
> wait for the next generation of PhotoCD (multisession) drives.

I like the CDR-74. With the new 2.25 driver problems with some
games (e.g. Spaceship Warlock) have disappeared and I can even mount 
a PhotoCD (single session) and read (when I get the SW from Kodak)
the images. Its fast and quite compatible with most SW out there.
I will try A/UX this week to see if I can do the install with the new
drivers.

Robert Weihmayer
GTE Laboratories Inc.
From: gregoret@celeste.mmwb.ucsf.edu (Lydia M. Gregoret)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Anyone get a Apple Scanner working under 7.x?
Keywords: System 7, scanner, drivers.
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:00:03 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay) writes:

>Bizarre as this sounds I'm running my Apple Scanner on 7.0.1 with driver 
>1.0 from 1988 with no problem.  Guess I should upgrade, but I wanted
>to let folks know it's possible. 

You might still have 32 bit addressing turned off.  Our
scanner worked fine until we upgraded our mac to 20 MB.
Then we needed driver version 2.0

Lydia Gregoret
lydia@rosa.mit.edu