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From: harris@bedford.progress.com (John Harris)
Subject: Ileaf 5 X11 Resources
Reply-To: John.Harris@progress.com
Organization: Progress Software Corporation
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 20:15:14 GMT

Is there documentation on what X11 resources are available for use in your
.Xdefaults file for Interleaf 5.3 running on Sun Sparcs and OW 3.0?
Appendix A in the User's Guide doesn't say anything about them....

Thanks in advance,

John

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Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: gottlieb@apollo.HP.COM (Robert Gottlieb)
Subject: New Head of Interleaf
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:20:57 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA

I believe I read in the Boston Globe today that the head of
Interleaf (I do't remember his name) is stepping down. I wonder
if any change in marketing strategy or pricing for Interleaf will follow?

				-- Bob Gottlieb
From: ram@cs.umb.edu (Robert Morris)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Re: What kind of University support is this ?
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:58:03 GMT
Reply-To: ram@cs.umb.edu
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

In article <DBLD.92Jul22094930@oz.oz.plymouth.edu> dbld@oz.plymouth.edu (d^2) writes:

   Well, I recently purchased InterLeaf for a DECStation workstation, and it is
   for my department in the University here.

   We paid $300.00 for 4 TK50 media tapes and the Full set of documentation.
   One license.

But it should be a network license enabling all the DECstation's on
your network (or maybe any network on your campus(?)), with the
license manager running on whatever hosts you told them when you
placed the order [assuming Interleaf DEC licensing operates the same
way as its Sun licensing].

   Support for a year is of $400.00+ though.
   *shrug*

$400 sounds pretty reasonable to me if it includes telephone consulting
beyond installation problems. If all it includes is upgrades, North
American universities may better off just buying upgrades
if/when they want them. (All of ?) those university licensies who got
5.2 were given a free 5.3 upgrade. As I recall, the literature
accompanying the upgrade order form implied that this was that DTK was
improved for 5.3. Interleaf has been showing native GUI versions at
trade shows and has announce(?) it expects ship a native OpenLook
version this year(?) and a Motif and other versions early next year, I
think. If the support pricing includes them for free, it well might be
that in the next 12 months some sites, especially Sun sites running
both OL and Motif, would come out ahead with a support contract or
else waiting until enough releases are made to go around again.

It is too bad that many of the foreign subsidiaries take a more
conservative view than the hq of the value university users can bring
to the document processing community. This is ironic, since
conventional wisdom is that American firms always take a short-term
profit over long term benefit view, while non-American firms do the
reverse. The AT&T Unix experience should be a lesson in regard
supporting universities for the benefits which accrue many years
later.


Bob Morris
Professor and
Director, Digital Typography Research Group
University of Massachusetts at Boston


(disclaimer of objectivity: I'm an occasional Interleaf consultant,
former employee, grateful recipient of some assistance from them in my
document processing research and general Interleaf fan).
From: nparent@larrybird.prime.com (Nicole Parent)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Grammar/style checkers
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:29:33 GMT
Organization: Prime Computervision, Bedford MA



Is anybody familiar with grammar/style checkers that work with 
Interleaf?         

Any recommendations?

Thank you!

Nicole
From: esrmm@warwick.ac.uk (Denis Anthony)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Interleaf failing to see new files created outside of Interleaf
Date: 27 Jul 92 08:36:46 GMT
Organization: Warwick University, Great Britain


I find that any files created (in the desktop directory) outside of
Interleaf (e.g. from Unix prompt) while Interleaf is running are not
found by Interleaf, and any files deleted outside of Interleaf are
still displayed as existing. I do not get this problem on my Apollo
system, but only on Suns. Is this a local problem, or does anyone else
note this?

Denis
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: reuver@mikro.ee.tu-berlin.de (Dirk Reuver)
Subject: What kind of University support is this ?
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 12:51:55 GMT


we are in Germany (Europe) and we have one license of Interleaf
TPS Version 4. That's the status quo

I called Interleaf (Germany) to ask for an upgrade from Version 4
to Version 5. The answer was:
"How many?"
"One"
"4500 DM (3000 US$) plus 821 DM (547 US$) for media plus 844 DM
 (562 US$) for documentation"
That's a total of 6165 DM (4110 US$) for the upgrade, the 
*same* price as a new license.
The salesperson told me that a discount is only possible with
a larger number of licenses.

Is there no upgrade path for universities ?

I remember someone on the net saying that a license in the US
is 300 US$ including media and independant of the hardware
platform.

What kind of University support is this over here anyway ?

The PC version of Interleaf comes *much* cheaper. It is
770 DM (513 US$) for the license, 450 DM (300 US$) for the
media (disks of gold ?) and 143 DM (95 US$) for the
documentation.

Since the docu for the workstation is 6 times as expensive
as the docu for the PC, I guess it holds 6 times more
valuable information (keeping in mind that the software
has identical functions - BTW, the license is 6 times as
expensive, too).

So what's this all about ? What *does* a US University pay ?


Dirk




__________________________________________________________________________
Dirk Reuver    DD6RE                  Phone:  +49 30 314 26705
Institute for Microelectronics        FAX:    +49 30 314 24597
Technical University Berlin           Email:  reuver@mikro.ee.tu-berlin.de
                    "You say tomato, I say tomato"
From: tarsa@elijah.mv.com (Greg Tarsa)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: LaserJet III printcap entry: Postscript
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:25:36 GMT
Reply-To: tarsa@elijah.mv.com (Greg Tarsa)
Followup-To: comp.text.interleaf
Distribution: na
Organization: Contract Software Services, Inc.


Does anyone have a printcap entry for a LaserJetIII running Postscript that
does not require Transcript to print?

We have just moved from a Sun3 to a Sparc and our transcript package is now
useless. 

Any help would be appreciated.

Greg

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Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: rich@coco-cr.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Christian Rich)
Subject: Bibliographic Database
Keywords: Bibliographic Database UNIX 
Organization: University of Ulm, Germany
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 16:07:09 GMT


Can anyone tell me, how to use my UNIX bibliographic database for
Interleaf documents as well? I really like the UNIX utilities like
addbib, roffbib, lookbib, and refer, to find and insert references from
my bibliographic database. How can I make use of it in Interleaf
documents?  Is there some other possibility to use a bibliographic
database in Interleaf?

Please send information preferably by e-mail.


Christian Rich

 	e-mail: rich@informatik.uni-ulm.de

Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: todd@draco.macsch.com (Todd C. Williams)
Subject: Re: Site wide mouse button defaults
Organization: MacNeal-Schwendler Corp.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 18:50:01 GMT

In article <1992Jul15.195657.27608@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com> c23cjc@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Chris Cleary) writes:
>
>Is there any way to change the default mouse buttons on a site basis?

I don't know the answer to that one...

>We are running Interleaf 5.3 on Sun workstations. By default Interleaf is
>using the middle button for the menu and the right button for extend.

I think you are mistaken.  We are running Interleaf 5.3 on Sun workstations
here, and by default ileaf uses the RIGHT button for the MENU, and the
MIDDLE button for EXTEND, just like OpenWindows.  I'm painfully aware of
this because all my OpenWindows SUN users like it this way (me too!), but
the die-hard TPS 4.0 veterans want things back to the way they're used to,
with the menu button in the middle.

-- 
Todd Williams    UNIX Systems Coordinator     todd@macsch.com    (213) 259-4973
MacNeal-Schwendler Corp. ("MSC"),  815 Colorado Blvd.,  Los Angeles, CA   90041
"The Democrats stand for nothing except 'I wish I was a Republican' and the
Republicans stand for raw, unbridled evil and greed and ignorance smothered
in balloons and ribbons."  -Frank Zappa, 1991  (Zappa for president!)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: todd@draco.macsch.com (Todd C. Williams)
Subject: Re: Ileaf 5 X11 Resources
Organization: MacNeal-Schwendler Corp.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 02:03:49 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.201514.27096@progress.com> John.Harris@progress.com writes:
>Is there documentation on what X11 resources are available for use in your
>.Xdefaults file for Interleaf 5.3 running on Sun Sparcs and OW 3.0?
>Appendix A in the User's Guide doesn't say anything about them....

See chapter 1 of the Interleaf 5 System Administation manual.
Startup options start on page 1-8.
Xresources are on pages 1-14 through 1-16.
-- 
Todd Williams    UNIX Systems Coordinator     todd@macsch.com    (213) 259-4973
MacNeal-Schwendler Corp. ("MSC"),  815 Colorado Blvd.,  Los Angeles, CA   90041
"The Democrats stand for nothing except 'I wish I was a Republican' and the
Republicans stand for raw, unbridled evil and greed and ignorance smothered
in balloons and ribbons."  -Frank Zappa, 1991  (Zappa for president!)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: djg@genrad.com (Deborah J. Graham)
Subject: Re: Creation of Fixed-Position Graphics Frame
Organization: GenRad, Inc.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:28:04 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.175615.99820@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> wca0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Konsultant Cody A) writes:

>OK...I am currently laying out an internal newsletter.  I would like to create
>a frame which will appear in the lower left-hand corner of the page, offset
>1.5" from the bottom of the page and .5" from the right of the page.
>(WordPerfect can do this...so I'm SURE Ileaf can!).

It depends, are you just trying to place a frame with text above and
below it, like this:

      texttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttext
      texttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttext
                       FRAMEFRAMEFRAME
                       FRAMEFRAMEFRAME
                       FRAMEFRAMEFRAME
      texttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttext
      texttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttext

Or trying to shape the text around the frame, like this:

      texttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttext
      texttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttext
      texttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttext     FRAMEFRAMEFRAME   
      texttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttext     FRAMEFRAMEFRAME   
      texttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttext     FRAMEFRAMEFRAME   
      texttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttext
      texttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttext

For the first, use an AT ANCHOR frame in a separate component.

For the second, use the Misc->Shape command. Unfortunately, it is
harder to get text to shape on BOTH sides of the frame (you need to
use two columns, and then you have trouble since the text doesn't go
all the way to the right side of the page, but to the end of the
column, and straddle doesn't let you shape four sides...it's not
easy).

The Misc->Shape command produces gray bars that you can click on. Then
select Set and move them to the new location. The changes show up in
the Profile part of the component Props sheet. But, making changes on
the profile sheet is the hardest way to shape a component, unless you
want many lines the exact same width. Misc->Shape has a "snap" feature
that you can turn off (default is on) called Gravity. This allows all
the lines to be the same value if they get close enough. You cannot
specify "close enough" like you can for gravity in a frame. 

>I TRIED making the frame placement underlay and overlay in the frame
>properties sheet, HOWEVER this allows text to be typed under/over the graphics
>frame.  I want the text to go AROUND the frame, while keeping the frame in a
>fixed position (i.e. I don't want the text to push the frame into the next
>column, onto the next page, etc.)

This should do it, as long as you only want text to go around the
frame on one side. 

Let me know if you have any other questions.

deb
founder, GR Interleaf User's Group; writer & editor, GR Interleaf Newsletter
(djg@genrad.com)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: vanguard@midnight.bellcore.com (Mark Schlagenhauf)
Subject: Smartleaf, anyone?
Keywords: Smartleaf
Reply-To: vanguard@midnight.bellcore.com (Mark Schlagenhauf)
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 20:08:20 GMT

Hello:

I just received an evaluation copy of a program called Smartleaf.  It's 
a third-party program that allows SQL calls to be embedded into
Interleaf components.  If it pans out, I'll use it to pull info from 
databases into a formatted Interleaf document.

Does anyone have any experience with this program?  Especially, does anyone
have experience using it to access databases residing on systems other than 
the one that Smartleaf/Interleaf is running on?

I'm interested in any info/opinions at all, really.  

Thanks in advance.

Mark Schlagenhauf
vanguard@midnight.bellcore.com


Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: steves@socrates.umd.edu (Steven Sonnenberg)
Subject: Tiff 2 Ileaf filter Question
Summary: Problem with Tiff 2 Ileaf converter
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 23:53:25 GMT

I'm trying to use a clip art package I got for DOS to create
clip art images for Ileaf.  In the DOS package I export the
image using black&white only.  I have tried 150dpi and 300dpi
but Interleaf filter complains "too much data in a row".

Can anyone explain why and what are the limits?

I was also using compression when I exported it.

I am using Ileaf 5.2.01 on DOS.

-steve
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Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: eekl@cc.newcastle.edu.au (Kim LAW, Dept. E.E., Uni Newcastle, NSW, AUSTRALIA)
Subject: Re: Table of contents:  How to set up the masters how I want them
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 02:06:12 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.162507.24523@rtsg.mot.com>, wolfmc@rtsg.mot.com (Michael Wolf) writes:
> I would like to have the table of contents use the masters I have
> set up.  Each time the TOC is generated, it forgets my changes to
> the masters in the previous TOC.
> 
> This is causing problems because I have tabs som of the TOC entries
> and it screws up the tab formatting in the generated TOC.
> 
> All help is appreciated
> 
> TIA
> 
> Michael
> 
-- 
I would like to have information concerning this too.
Thankyou.
==============================================================================
Kim LAW                               email=eekl@cc.newcastle.edu.au
Electrical & Computer Engineering     phone: +61 (049) 215 466
University of Newcastle
NSW, Australia
==============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: wolfmc@rtsg.mot.com (Michael Wolf)
Subject: Table of contents:  How to set up the masters how I want them
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:25:07 GMT

I would like to have the table of contents use the masters I have
set up.  Each time the TOC is generated, it forgets my changes to
the masters in the previous TOC.

This is causing problems because I have tabs som of the TOC entries
and it screws up the tab formatting in the generated TOC.

All help is appreciated

TIA

Michael
From: zitt!joe@dogface.austin.tx.us (Joe Zitt)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Re: Stopping Wrap Prompts
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 01:00:36 CDT
Organization: Metatron Press / Human Systems Performance Group, Austin, TX

ram@cs.umb.edu (Robert Morris) writes:

> We use
> 	(stk-intercept stk:doc-wrap-search-fwd   '(lambda (&rest bogus) nil))
> 	(stk-intercept stk:doc-wrap-search-back '(lambda (&rest bogus) nil)))

Thanks. Another writer had also suggested this in email.
 
> At least in 5.3, and probably earlier, all of this is deducible from
> "apropos wrap" and "apropos stk".

Hmm... I shoulda thought of that. I made the mistake of looking in the 
hardcopy book. I also didn't guess that the stick-up would have its own
function name. I had grepped the /interleaf/ileaf5/lisp directory for
"Wrap", looking for the windo text, but without success.

--
"Go to an extreme and then retreat to a more useful position"  --  Brian Eno
Joe Zitt 	       ...cs.utexas.edu!kvue!zitt!joe  	       (512)450-1916
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: snowden@cray.com (Jim Snowden)
Subject: Large monitors for use with Interleaf on DOS
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 23 Jul 92 08:22:47 CDT

Hi,

Is anyone using Interleaf on an IBM PC (under DOS) with a large monitor (
displaying a full page)?  I am looking to see what card and monitor I should
get.

I have the chance of getting a Wyse 7190 two page monitor and I notice
the DOS Interleaf spec says this is supported.  Does anyone have any experience
with using this monitor and DOS Interleaf?

Jim Snowden
snowden@hemlock.cray.com
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: dbld@oz.plymouth.edu (d^2)
Subject: Re: What kind of University support is this ?
Organization: Plymouth State College
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:49:30 GMT
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In article <reuver.711723115@tubue> reuver@mikro.ee.tu-berlin.de (Dirk Reuver) writes:

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   we are in Germany (Europe) and we have one license of Interleaf
   TPS Version 4. That's the status quo

   I called Interleaf (Germany) to ask for an upgrade from Version 4
   to Version 5. The answer was:
   "How many?"
   "One"
   "4500 DM (3000 US$) plus 821 DM (547 US$) for media plus 844 DM
    (562 US$) for documentation"
   That's a total of 6165 DM (4110 US$) for the upgrade, the 
   *same* price as a new license.
   The salesperson told me that a discount is only possible with
   a larger number of licenses.

   Is there no upgrade path for universities ?

   I remember someone on the net saying that a license in the US
   is 300 US$ including media and independant of the hardware
   platform.

   What kind of University support is this over here anyway ?

   The PC version of Interleaf comes *much* cheaper. It is
   770 DM (513 US$) for the license, 450 DM (300 US$) for the
   media (disks of gold ?) and 143 DM (95 US$) for the
   documentation.

   Since the docu for the workstation is 6 times as expensive
   as the docu for the PC, I guess it holds 6 times more
   valuable information (keeping in mind that the software
   has identical functions - BTW, the license is 6 times as
   expensive, too).

   So what's this all about ? What *does* a US University pay ?


   Dirk




   __________________________________________________________________________
   Dirk Reuver    DD6RE                  Phone:  +49 30 314 26705
   Institute for Microelectronics        FAX:    +49 30 314 24597
   Technical University Berlin           Email:  reuver@mikro.ee.tu-berlin.de
		       "You say tomato, I say tomato"

-----
Well, I recently purchased InterLeaf for a DECStation workstation, and it is
for my department in the University here.

We paid $300.00 for 4 TK50 media tapes and the Full set of documentation.
One license.

Support for a year is of $400.00+ though.
*shrug*

Duane Dixon                     *  `Happy, Happy, Happy..Joy, Joy, Joy'      
Office of Continuing Education  *           -- CrokoStimpy
Plymouth State College          *                           
Internet: dbld@oz.plymouth.edu  *  I'm off to feed my pet CrokoSteeempy.   

`Battle ye not with monsters, lest ye become a monster' - Nietzsche
d^2
From: tw@sics.se (Tommy Wallo)
Subject: Re: Ileaf5.3 and X11R5
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 14:52:11 GMT

>>>>> In article <1992Jul25.174327.8092@sics.se>, tw@sics.se (Tommy Wallo) writes:

tw> I have a irritating problem with Interleaf5.3 runnning under 
tw> MIT X11R5. Interleaf doesn't refresh the screen after popup menus, 
tw> the menus leaves a white area on the screen until you manually give 
tw> a refresh command. 

The solution is to set the X resource Ileaf.popup.saveUnder to "true".
X resources supported by Interleaf 5 can be find in 
	/interleaf/ileaf5/data/x/Xres

Thanks to John Ziegler who came up with the solution.

--
Tommy Wallo                                     Internet: tw@sics.se
Swedish Institute of Computer Science (SICS)    Tel:      +46 8 752 15 53
PO Box 1263, S-164 28 KISTA, SWEDEN             Fax:      +46 8 751 72 30
From: briand@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Brian D Diehm)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Re: Interleaf failing to see new files created outside of Interle
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:49:26 GMT
Reply-To: briand@tekig5.PEN.TEK.COM
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

]]I find that any files created (in the desktop directory) outside of
]]Interleaf (e.g. from Unix prompt) while Interleaf is running are not
]]found by Interleaf, and any files deleted outside of Interleaf are
]]still displayed as existing. I do not get this problem on my Apollo
]]system, but only on Suns. Is this a local problem, or does anyone else
]]note this?

]Choose the Custom->Rescan option from your desktop.  Interleaf only "notices"
]files that were on your desktop and its subdirectories at startup.
]
]As for the difference between the Suns and Apollos, I imagine that automatic
]rescan must be an installation option.

Automatic rescan can be set in your profile using the profile tool. It
normally defaults to off at Interleaf installation.
--
Brian Diehm                              Interleaf Site License Program Manager
Tektronix, Inc.                (503) 627-3437         briand@tekig5.PEN.TEK.COM
P.O. Box 500, M/S 19-286
Beaverton, OR   97077