HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cfar@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Carol Farquhar)
Subject: Re: Homosexual Adoption
Organization: NASA/MSFC
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:19:32 GMT

Oh great, the annual hsv.general homosexual flame war.

I have been following this thread with interest and I have
a question for all you homophobes out there.  What are you
scared of?  Are you so insecure of your own sexuality that
someone with an alternate sexual preference threatens you?
My gay and lesbian friends would never dream of trying to
convert me to their lifestyle, nor have I have tried to
"cure" them or convert them to heterosexuals.

All this screaming about "godless, un-natural lifestyles" reminds
me of Jimmy Swaggart condemning prostitutes and whore-mongers from
the pulpit.  We all know where he landed. :-)

BTW, Leah, would you rather see all the crack and aids babies waste
away in institutions or be adopted by loving parents even if they
happen to be gay or lesbian?

Carol

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Newsgroups: hsv.general
From: wilsonk@infonode.ingr.com (Keith Wilson)
Subject: Re: Radon Testing Kits Available
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:36:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.150503.7210@infonode.ingr.com>, brantley@infonode.ingr.com (Dwight D. Brantley) writes:
> In article <1992Nov18.135917.4859@infonode.ingr.com> wilsonk@infonode.ingr.com (Keith Wilson) writes:
> >
> >Lab analysis included in price.
> >Kits can be mailed.
> >
> >Test your own house $21.95.
> >
> >Radon Dection Service: 650-0998
> 
> So does anyone have the statistics on what the chances are of having
> unacceptable levels of radon in a house in the Huntsville/Madison area
> given that the house is built on a concrete slab (no basement or crawl
> space)?  Not flamming anyone here, I'm just curious.

    Dwight, 

	I called the telephone number listed in this and the original
	posting for you.  They will call you...  You may wish to verify
	any "quoted figures".  You might have luck with the Bureau of
	Statistics, chamber of commerce, and/or any local library...

	Glad to be of assistance,
    
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Newsgroups: hsv.general
From: shelley@b30!b11.ingr.com (Shelley Read Heard)
Subject: Re: Homeosexuality
Reply-To: shelley@heard.b30.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:22:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.212546.22257@infonode.ingr.com>, puttk@infonode.ingr.com (Ken Putt) writes:
|> margaret@infonode.ingr.com (Margaret Wiginton) writes:
|> 
|> >their eyes.  Homosexualality is not a personality disorder, 
|> >a mental illness, or an identity crisis.  Its a sexual orientation, 
|>                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> 
|> I'm amazed at how easily some people can embrace a simple buzzword and 
|> use it to justify a blatently unnatural act. If only we could come up
                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> with a fashionable buzzword for common sense, perhaps we could get
|> our society back on the right track. 
|> 

I saw a special on dolphin (porpoise) societies on PBS last night.  It showed an 
adult female "teasing" two young adolescent males.  They both got very excited 
(the camera missed nothing) and finally she broke off from them when one tried to
mount her.  Then the two males rubbed their bellies together for a while ignoring
the female.  Then they joined the female, one trying to nurse from her (acting
like an infant).

Of all places for an unnatural act to occur!  In nature!  We never should have 
stopped the Japanese from exterminating those ungodly creatures! 

8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

|> Ken
|> 

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From: Chris.Cancilla@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Chris Cancilla)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Star Trek
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 11:09:37 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2.0 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

I am placing this in the Local Huntsville area echo in hopes to get 
a few fans to see this.
 
If you are a Star Trek fan, and would like more information about 
the Huntsville area fan club, or the international organization that 
we are a part of; please give me a call, VOICE, at 803-1474 before 
9pm any night of the week.
 
If there is no one at home, please leave a message on the machine 
and I will call you back as soon as I get home.  Please remember to 
let me know the latest time that I can call you.
 
I would like this club to be better than the club I started in Florida, 
they are going strong and have fun activities a few times a month. 
 I want this club to be a place that we can get togather and enjoy 

ourselves.
 
For more information.....give me a call.
 
Chris Cancilla, 830-1474. 



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Newsgroups: hsv.general
From: puttk@b11.b11.ingr.com (Ken Putt)
Subject: Re: Homeosexuality
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:57:22 GMT

shelley@b30!b11.ingr.com (Shelley Read Heard) writes:

>I saw a special on dolphin (porpoise) societies on PBS last night.  It showed an 
>adult female "teasing" two young adolescent males.  They both got very excited 
>(the camera missed nothing) and finally she broke off from them when one tried to
>mount her.  Then the two males rubbed their bellies together for a while ignoring
>the female.  Then they joined the female, one trying to nurse from her (acting
>like an infant).

>Of all places for an unnatural act to occur!  In nature!  We never should have 
>stopped the Japanese from exterminating those ungodly creatures! 


ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz...huh? I love that story. Sorry, but I fail to see
the relationship between admittedly infantile behavior and an
honest-to-God pattern of long term homosexual behavior among mammels.
I've seen a dog ride a person's leg before (and even a rubber
ball)...how do you explain these "ungodly" acts. Think about how the
male and female bodies are designed (by nature, not by surgeons) and
explain to me how it can be natural for people of the same sex to mate.
If you're honest with yourself, you'll see the truth. But it seems that
even amongst heterosexuals, homosexuality is "fashionable" and no one
wants to face the fact that this behavior is wrong. So be it. People
learn the truth eventually, but the pill gets bitter with time.

Ken

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Newsgroups: hsv.general
From: tensmekl@infonode.ingr.com (Kermit Tensmeyer)
Subject: Re: Homosexuality
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:11:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.025220.2425@infonode.ingr.com> margaret@infonode.ingr.com (Margaret Wiginton) writes:
>Path: infonode!umagic!p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Leah.Wesolowski
>From: Leah.Wesolowski@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Leah Wesolowski)
>
>TO: margaret@infonode.ingr.com (Margaret Wiginton)
> 
>I do not agree that AIDS is "nature's way" of weeding out
>homosexuals.  

 On another board, someone pointed out that AIDS is _not_ a curse from
 God, It is caused by a virus. It's Bill Clinton that is a curse from God.

 Get your religious and -phobic facts straight people!



>
>I'm glad I'm straight -- there's too much ignorance and hate 
>out there for people who aren't.
>-- 
>___________________
>Margaret Wiginton
>margaret@msw104i.b24b.ingr.com
>


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From: Craig.Presson@f32.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Craig Presson)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Rights
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 22:01:44 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/32

|>    What basic human rights to you refer to. The only RIGHT that I
|>    know of, which every person in the world will experience is
|>    DEATH...and believe it or not, in America there's a law against
|>    it! i.e. Suicide,
|>    Leah
This is a very fundamental point about which you really should not
be flippant. The basic human right is ownership of one's life and
the usufruct thereof, or as Jefferson put it, "life, liberty, and
the pursuit of happiness" (too bad he was away in France while they
were drafting the Constitution. Conspiracy, anyone?). Our present
legal system shies away from certain important consequences of this
Founding Formula (which by the way is straight out of Locke and Hume,
it wasn't just a fever TJ had one day). I could multiply examples.
Making suicide illegal is in fact one example, as is our plethora of
laws that make victimless actions felonies, flying in the face of
the very definition of the word. Practically since the ink was dry
on the Declaration, there has been a War on Common Sense in this
country, in the legislatures, the boardrooms, and the courts. We
suffer daily from the far-reaching consequences of relatively small
philosophical concessions and false turns made long ago -- the
inversion of the Constitution eloquently but wrongly argued for by
Hamilton ("If the end envisioned by an act clearly contributes to a
granted power of the Federal Government, and no part of the act be
specifically prohibited by the text of the Constitution, then that
act should be permitted [paraphrase]"); the erosion of contracts
perpetrated in the name of "the Common Law" by Holmes, and by
many of his aristocratic British predecessors; prepared the way, in
an inexorable sequence, for the tortured logic and cavalier disregard
for common humanity embodied in the Washington, DC of today.
==
Patrick Henry saw his choices clearly because he faced one
overwhelming threat from an overt tyrant. We have trouble seeing
them because the threats are many and subtle; but we are still
trading pieces of our liberty for pieces of our lives, every day.
==
-- Craig Presson
Wow, this prison really _is_ well lit! Are you sure this is only
one idea?

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From: John.Emmert@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Emmert)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Move this to 
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 09:59:31 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2.0 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

 -=> Quoting Dianne Ferrans to All <=-

 DF> Hey!  could we move the homophobe discussion somewhere else?
 DF> let's discuss topics of LOCAL interest, this is cluttering up
 DF> the newsgroup!

 DF> You AREN'T going to change the minds of right-wing,
 DF> ultra-conservatives or religious zealots into thinking that
 DF> homosexuality is not wrong 
 DF> You AREN'T going to convert the homosexuals OR the "breeders"

I'm begining to agree with you. In particular, I would apreciate it
if people would stop cross posting there messages and articles in
much more widespread newsgroups. We really don't need the input
from europe on our elections, or from California on gays posted in
this LOCAL area.


... Don't hit me, Mr. Moderator... I'll go back on topic... I swear!


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From: John.Blumer@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Blumer)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Homosexual Rights
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 09:34:51 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2.0 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

 > in a certian way are entitled to any more rights than the
 > I support the Cracker Barrel not hiring homosexuals. That
 > is the owner's right. No one has a right to be hired because
 > they engage in illegal
 > (in this state) activity.
 >
 
Ther are lots of ridiculous laws still on the book in this state, 
certain sexual acts are illegal even among hetrosexual couples. 
To use a certain law which is generally un-enforcable and may even 
be unconstitutional as the basis for not hiring someone is really 
stretching for a reason for discrimination. 
Maybe Cracker Barrel should question their hetrosexual employees 
on their sexual habits to see if they are breaking any laws?
 
 > Furthermore you must consider the liability factor. We all
 > know that the highest group of people with AIDS is the
 > members of the homosexual community. A restaraunt owner
 > then opens himself up to legal problems when one of his
 > homosexual employees cuts themselves and the cause of AIDS
 > is spread to a customer. A lawsuit I am sure we will se
 > within the next five years.
 >
 
So now we should discriminate aganist someone who has done nothing 
wrong, just because of a group they belong to?
I thought guilt by association went out with the 50's, I guess I was 
wrong. 
I might agree with you someone who is HIV positive should take special 
caution or not perform certain jobs, but to discriminate aganist 
a group because of a "if" goes aganist everything I think this country 
stands for. 



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Newsgroups: hsv.general
From: dianne@dianne.NoSubdomain.NoDomain 
Subject: Re: Homosexual Rights QUESTION
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:10:42 GMT

I have a question:

relating back to the dolphin story, I read a study once where
they found that as they increased the population of white mice
in a cage, more and more began to practice homosexual behaviour.

Might it not be perfectly natural, and also nature's way of 
controling population explosion?

We're going to see definite problems in overpopulation in the
next 100 years ... allowing this as an "acceptable" lifestyle
might not be such an impractical thing.

Has anyone ever done a study to see if the ratio of hets/homos
(10/1) is higher in cities than in rural areas?  This might be
interesting.

Just curious

signed,

"not homophobic"
Newsgroups: hsv.general
From: robichau@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Paul Robichaux)
Subject: Re: Homosexual Rights
Reply-To: robichau@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov
Organization: New Technology, Inc.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:08:17 GMT

In <1992Nov19.171402.14329@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov> mason@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Jim Mason) writes:
>If I assert that some people's obsessive concern with the manifestation
>of sexual diversity, which often boarders on paranoia, is a psychological
>problem, shall we submit those individuals to "civilized and logical"
>treatment?

Hmmm. The idea of boot camps or "treatment centers" for
obsessive-conservatives is certainly appealing. Model them after, say,
the Betty Ford clinics for substance abuse treatment.

More seriously, the set of people who are obsessive-conservatives
seems to correspond to the set of people who are
	-anti-pro-choice
	-anti-First Amendment
	-anti-Fourth Amendment

On the other hand, they *do* tend to support the Second Amendment
pretty well. A silver lining in every cloud...

-Paul
 Don't blame me. I voted for Perot.
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Newsgroups: hsv.general
From: jeff@frodo.b30.ingr.com (Jeffrey A. Johnson)
Subject: Re: need tv repair recommendation
Keywords: tv, vcr, repair
Organization: myself
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:11:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.215329.14010@infonode.ingr.com>,
morgana@infonode.ingr.com (Angela Morgan) writes:
 
> I have never dealt with any TV repair shops in Huntsville, so I'd like
> to hear some recommendations from those of you who have.  Thanks in
> advance!
>
> Angela Morgan, NSS 24044    |  UUCP: ...uunet!ingr!infonode!morgana  |
> Intergraph Corporation      |  INTERNET: morgana@infonode.ingr.com   |


    ***STAY WAY THE HELL AWAY*** from Bell Electronics on Pulaski Pike !!
I took my VCR on a Saturday, and after repeatedly calling and
not hearing a status report or anything, I went back two weeks
later unannounced to find that they had supposedly already
"fixed" the problem.  However, they failed to contact me first
and ask for authorization for the $55 they charged me ( there's
a $25 evaluation fee if you don't let them "fix" it for you ).

    I tried it out in the shop, while I was waiting about an hour
for the manager to come back.  Apparently, he was away on a call,
and the shop was left in the hands of some guy who apparently didn't
have a real function there except to tell people to wait around for
the other guy.  Anyway, after returning, the manager guy took the
ticket and scrawled a few lines about what the technician had supposedly
done to "fix" the VCR.  Since it worked for the 30 minutes or so that
I fooled with it there, I paid the $55 and took it home.  It promptly
repeated the problem less than a week later.  Oh yeah, the joint
screams "unprofessional" the moment you walk in -- I should have known
better than to leave it there in the first place.

    Then, I took it to Sound Distributors on University Drive.  They
have a $10 evaluation fee ( if you don't get it fixed there ).  These
people were very professional.  Less than a week later, they called
and told me it would cost $40+ for parts and $55 for labor, which
I declined, since it's a 5 year old VCR.  They at least seemed to
know what they were doing, unlike the Bell rathole.

    A co-worker has also had a bad experience with Bell Electronics;
they had his VCR there for several months without even examining it.

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"If I were advising a totalitarian regime on how to perpetuate itself,
I would suggest rounding up all the children in the morning and
locking them up in buildings where people would lecture them all day.
Whatever else you do, cut them off from the world."
 - Historian Jeremy Brecher in the 9/21/92 "The Nation"
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From: ed@fhouse.UUCP (Ed Felton)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Homosexual Rights
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:37:8 GMT
Organization: Summa Technology, Inc.

cfar@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Carol Farquhar @ NASA/MSFC) once wrote....
>Leah.Wesolowski@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Leah Wesolowski) writes:
>
>
>
>>If I wanted an illeterate person to come her to receive an
>                ^^^^^^^^^^
>                I bet you just love Dan Quayle. :-)
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                    Judge not, lest ye be judged!!
>
>>education I would have placed my ad to read like that, but my
>>name is not Toney and the ad clearly states "Toney Area". So I
>>discriminate. big deal. It is my perfect right to do so when
>>chosing someone that will come into my home with my children and
>>myself while I work on the computer.
>>Leah
>
>I can't believe Leah would post a paragraph like this and call someone
>else illerate (note spelling, Leah).  I suggest she study the dictionary
      ^^^^^^^^                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      Shall we hang the label "pot" around your neck as well?
            (as in "the Pot calling the Kettle black")

>more and post less.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  Oh, no! should we tell her the proper spelling of "illiterate" gang?

>
>Carol 

   [Note: I like both the people involved in this, and am just 
    having some fun while I'm bored... Please don't take this
    as more than a "childish prank"!  Oh, yeah --> 8-)

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>Opinions are sometimes mine.

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From: Leah.Wesolowski@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Leah Wesolowski)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Presidential talk
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 10:13:18 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2.0 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

I never saw him through a football, last time I checked a
football was a solid object.. If Jack Kemp can through a
football, well that's darned right miraculous (Snicker).
  I guess the Slick one is already doing more harm than good.
All homosexuals are going to join the service so they can get
free AIDS care now.
Leah

 

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Newsgroups: hsv.general
From: dianne@dianne.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Dianne Ferrans)
Subject: Moving Companies? Need Info!
Keywords: don't get fooled again!
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:02:00 GMT


Hello Netters!

As luck would have it (NOT!), during housebuying negotiations, 
my husband and I somehow managed to get a closing date of December 22
....3 days before Christmas!

Not wanting to impose on friends at that late date, we're looking for
a reliable moving company.

Please forward to me all praises/horror stories related to local companies,
so that I can make an "informed" decision. 

Send stories to:  dianne@dianne.b24a.ingr.com

Thank you, and Merry Christmas!

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Subject: Re: Homeosexuality