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Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #209
Date: 31 Aug 92 23:56:24 GMT
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Info-Mac Digest             Mon, 31 Aug 92       Volume 10 : Issue 209

Today's Topics:

      [*] Accelerating an SE: Report
      [*] CTB Kermit Tool
      [*] Lucrece.1.cpt.hqx
      [*] Microcosm-demo.hqx
      Accelerator for LC
      Bridge Game (Another Comment)
      Complete Guide to Mac Books
      damaged file?
      data acquisition (A)
      Dust cover for Color Pivot/LE (A)
      Dust Covers (R)
      Ethernet QUADRA and Localtalk Printer (Q)
      Excel 3.0 printing problem (A)
      File transfer speeds over Internet (2 msgs)
      Importing a Mac (Help!)
      internet news readers
      Kermit
      Labels (Easter Egg)
      LC speaker problem (R)
      Mac-like Internet access via modem
      Mac advertising
      Mac Plus with System 7 dies (Q)
      more info on faulty ThoughtPattern file
      Network mail
      Odd screen sizes (C)
      Personal Internet Access
      Portrait Prombles (sic) (Q)
      Price for StyleWriter Suomissa:
      Problems with Norton file recovery
      Quadra 700 Overdrive now shipping!
      SE/30 Sound Problem?
      Sharing phones with faxes and FPU's (Q)
      Soft-PC (Warning) (A) (A)
      Sound troubles on LC
      type and creator help
      Typing tutors (Q)
      White Knight
      Word 5 Bug with MacPlus (Q)
      WordPerfect and equations
      XLISP: An Object-oriented Lisp (Q)

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 18:52 EST
From: Carlo Fusco <G1400023@NICKEL.LAURENTIAN.CA>
Subject: [*] Accelerating an SE: Report

In info-mac #201 I posted question concerning the acceleration of an SE.  I
have recieved a number of replys to my queries.  I have put my findings into
report form so that others in the info-mac can have access to this
information.  It is a 20K text document.

Carlo Fusco
g1400023@nickel.laurentian.ca


I suggest that it be placed in
info-mac/report/accel-SE.txt
Please leave the other report concerning the acceleration of SE's, it
deals with combination accelerator/video board, where this report does not.

[ Archived as /info-mac/report/accel-se.txt; 20K ]

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 20:08 CST
From: HOWES@bert.chem.wisc.edu
Subject: [*] CTB Kermit Tool

The enclosed is an implementation of the Kermit File Transfer
Protocol for use with Communication's Toolbox Compliant
Applications. Good Luck.

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/kermit-tool.hqx; 38K]

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 13:09:33 PDT
From: zimm@alumni.cco.caltech.edu (Mark Edward Zimmerman)
Subject: [*] Lucrece.1.cpt.hqx

appended below is a binhex'd compact'd HyperCard 2 stack "Lucrece - v.1.0",
the full text of William Shakespeare's poem "The Rape of Lucrece", with
glossary and notetaking enhancements thanks to Rand Valentine of UWO ...
free software under GNU GPL.  --- ^z

[Archived as /info-mac/card/lucrece-10.hqx; 121K]

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 13:28:49 EDT
From: udhenry@mcs.drexel.edu (David Henry)
Subject: [*] Microcosm-demo.hqx

  In Microcosm, you pilot a microscopic robot around a maze while trying to
destroy  the nasty viruses that are trying to destroy you. In order to kill a
specific type of virus,  you must shoot at it with a specially encoded strand
of DNA. You can either rely on trial and error to find the correct DNA
sequence, or you can pick up the computer chips that appear in the maze. These
chips add functions to your robot and may make it easier to kill the viruses.
Meanwhile, the viruses' DNA sequences can change due to mutation, and enemy
robots roam the maze, performing such helpful tasks as knocking down the walls
or trying to steal your computer chips.
  The Microcosm demo runs in monochrome or color and requires at least system
6.0.7. There is online help contained within the demo. Note that since this is
a demo, some functions have been disabled. For the nominal fee of $15, you can
get the full version which includes  network functions, more levels and a way
cool level editor. See the demo for more details.

--
Dave Henry/DGS
udhenry@mcs.drexel.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/demo/microcosm.hqx; 607K]

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 12:48:44 CDT
From: Graeme Forbes <PL0BALF@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU>
Subject: Accelerator for LC

I'm interested in buying a 33MHz or better accelerator for my LC. The
prices on the Daystar Power Cache and the Applied Engineering Transwarp
seem reasonable. Does anyone have any advice to offer me?

One more specific question. I have a QuickMath/LC FPU already occupying
the PDS slot. I suppose it has to go. Could I get an accelerator
without an FPU, and transfer the one I already have onto it?

Thanks,
Graeme Forbes

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 13:19 CDT
From: "Richard Z. Toptani"
<XM0SRZT%LUCCPUA.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Bridge Game (Another Comment)

I agree with the earlier comments about Bridge 6.0. It Stinks.
As far as its never being updated, it was at least once, because
it was preceded by Bridge 5.0, which was even worse, if you can
imagine that!

The only other Bridge game for the Mac I have seen is
one called Micro Bridge. Which is pretty bad as well.
The publishers of both Bridge games should be ashamed if
themselves!

Does anyone out there know of a decent Bridge game
for the mac?

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Date: MON, 31 Aug 92 09:03:19 EDT
From: "Louis_Bergeron"%UQAT.UQuebec.CA@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: Complete Guide to Mac Books

A few weeks ago, someone asked for a guide to Macintosh books. I found one
in MacWorld January 1992. Eleven books are covered including all the classic
ones. Even if the article is eight months old, it's good anyway since some
of these books have been replaced by a new edition or will be soon.
For someone on a tight budget it's a good review since *lemon* or out of date
books are mentionned. Recently, there was a new edition of DrMacintosh by
Bob Levitus. In the first edition, he warmly recommended Jasmine. I hope he
will do better this time.
Coming this fall is The Macintosh Bible highly recommended in the MacWorld
article. Don't buy an older edition.

Louis Bergeron ORPBERL@UQAT.UQUEBEC.CA

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:24:42 ADT
From: John Corbit <corbit@esseX.stfx.ca>
Subject: damaged file?

Hi. I have downloaded a file several times and it seems to be damaged.
A CRC error occurs in Binhex 4.0.

The file is thought-pattern.hqx located in info-mac/demo.

Please let me know if the file is damaged or OK.

Thanks,  John

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Date: 28 Aug 92 19:27 GMT
From: KEE@AppleLink.Apple.COM (Kagi Engineering Inc, K Nethery,PAS)
Subject: data acquisition (A)

>Does anyone have experience using Macs for data acquisition in science
>teaching labs?  I am trying to get as much info as possible, and am
>starting with no experience in this area.

We have a product that might fit your needs, the CNX Common Sense Node.
It has:
4 analog inputs, 0-5 Vdc, 8 bit resolution
1 analog output, 0-5 Vdc, 8 bit resolution
8 discrete I/O ports, TTL compatible, 5Vdc, 25 milliamps output
4 relays, 120 Vac 10 amps
1 builtin LocalTalk connector (RJ11 jack)

It attaches to a PhoneNet network and can be anywhere on the network. You
communicate with it through a HyperCard stack preconfigured interface from any
Mac.

The manual has quite a few circuit diagrams showing various ways the CNX can
be
connected into real world situations for sensing and control.

Although there are no sample interface circuits for the some devices you
mentioned (EKG, myograph transducers, blood pressure, spectrophotometers, pH
meters, oxygen meters, etc.) we would be willing to work with you to develop
interface circuit diagrams for those applications. We're creating a library of
interface circuits.

Don't know if I can mention it's price so I'll just say that it is less than
what mail order places charge for a QuickMail 10 user pack.

Contact us directly for more information.

Kee Nethery
Radiant Enterprises Inc.
1714 Stockton Street
San Francisco, CA 94133
415-296-8040 voice
415-392-6860 fax
radiant@applelink.apple.com


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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 20:05:08 GMT
From: hilmantl@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com (Mark A. Hilmantel)
Subject: Dust cover for Color Pivot/LE (A)

>Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 06:59:03 PDT
>From: jbthoo@ucdavis.edu ( John Thoo )
>Subject: Dust cover for Color Pivot/LE (Q)
>
>Does anyone know where I might buy a dust cover for a Radius
>Color Pivot/LE?  (mail-order preferred)
>
>Thanks much for your help.
>
>Cheerio!
>--John.
><jb2@math.ucdavis.edu>

CO-DU-CO, 4802 W. Wisconsin Ave., Milwaukee WI 53208, makes dust
covers for a large variety of computer equipment. Ask them for their
list. They also make custom covers if what you need isn't on the list,
and the price is very reasonable. They advertise in the MacUser
classifieds. Phone: 800-735-1584, 414-476-1584, FAX: 414-476-9329.
--
INTERNET: hilmantl@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 08:05 CDT
From: "Dwight Lemke @ Wisconsin Oshkosh" <LEMKE@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU>
Subject: Dust Covers (R)

There is a company in Milwaukee which claims to have dust covers for
"every make and model".  In fact, in addition to their large selection,
they will also make up a custom cover to your specifications.  I have
their covers for my Mac at home and am very pleased with the quality.
They are:
	CO-DU-CO
	4802 W. Wisconsin Avenue
	Milwaukee, WI 53208
	(800) 735-1584
	(414) 476-1584
	(414) 476-9329 FAX

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 11:21:44 -0400
From: kroeger@foca.DNET.NASA.GOV
Subject: Ethernet QUADRA and Localtalk Printer (Q)

Help needed: What is the status on this subject? We have a QUADRA
connected to Ethernet and a Laserwriter NTR connected to the LocalTalk
outlet of this QUADRA.
Switching forth and back with the NETWORK Control Panel is a pain.

Software solutions which were mentioned in earlier Digests were:
"Internet Router", "Laser Bridge" and "Liaison".
I would highly appreciate any recommendations from those who have
solved this problem. In particular I would like to know whether the
"Internet Router" is fully QUADRA (32-Bit + Cache = on) compatible.

Thanks for your help!

Hans Kroeger
kroeger@fn.dornier.de
kroeger@foca.dnet.nasa.gov

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 08:03:29 -0800
From: Mike_Dustan@sfu.ca
Subject: Excel 3.0 printing problem (A)

Don Webb describes microscopic Excel output on a StyleWriter...

You may have already tried this, but doing Page Setup before printing
usually fixes a whole lot of problems. It's one of those mystery commands
that doesn't do anything visible but fiddles around a whole lot behind the
scenes to make your application understand what kind of printer you have.

PS: "squunched" is spelled correctly; it's in my dictionary between
"squirkle" and "Squunk Water".
Mike Dustan, Computing Services, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, BC Canada

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 11:47:36 -0400
From: Dave Saunders <inter01@worldlink.com>
Subject: File transfer speeds over Internet

> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92  17:55 BST
> From: RICHARD LIM <RTL%SIVA.BRISTOL.AC.UK@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
> Subject: File transfer speeds over Internet
>
> I'm curious to know what kind of speeds one can typically expect for file
> transfers over Internet.  It's only recently that our Ethernetted Macs have
> acquired Internet ID's and so we are now able to utilise the marvels of
> file-grabbing programs like Fetch.  However I've noticed that the transfer
> rate can vary from anything between 500k/sec and a whopping 9 Mb/sec at
> its very best.  What are the major causes of the rate slowing and which are
> most important - eg traffic on the network, demand on the remote server or
> maybe even traffic at the local host end?

Read "Internetworking with TCP/IP" by Comer. When you FTP, your packets
bounce from one IP gateway to the next. Sometimes, the "distance" between you
and your destination is a only a couple of T3 hops. Other times, your packets
might end up going though several dozen hops which may include 56K links or
even an X.25 satellite (sp) hop. Also some days, FTPing to the same site may
involve radically different routing because a shorter path may be down or
just too busy. Of course the destination machine could also be overloaded.

Dave Saunders

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 17:50:19 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: File transfer speeds over Internet

On Sat, 29 Aug 92 17:55 BST you said:
>It's only recently that our Ethernetted Macs have acquired Internet ID's
>and so we are now able to utilise the marvels of file-grabbing programs
>like Fetch.  What are the major causes of the rate slowing and which are
>most important - eg traffic on the network, demand on the remote server
>or maybe even traffic at the local host end?

Network traffic certainly has an impact, but the greatest source of
difference probably is the fact that not all links are the same speed.
Naturally, the maximum transfer rate is limited by the slowest link that
happens to exist between you and the host you are transferring from.
The slowest link may not be the same one (or the same speed) for
subsequent connections to a particular host.  Part of the Internet's
reliability occurs because individual hosts generally have more than one
connection; hence, there is more than one path that might connect two
hosts depending what hosts and communications links are operating at the
time a connection is attempted and what the existing loads are on those
links.

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 9:19:35 BST
From: Jonathan AH Hogg <jahh1@forth.stirling.ac.uk>
Subject: Importing a Mac (Help!)

People,

I have been subscribing to this list for a while now and It seems there's a
lot
of knowledgeable (sp?) out there.  I live in Scotland, a most wonderful place
except that the Apple dealers here work on that famous electrical goods import
principle of "change the dollar sign into a pound one, and then add some more
on".  This means that the cheapest LCII I can get here is 1004 pounds! WHOA!
Hey, isn't the exchange rate about 2:1 right now?  That's $2000!  Crazy huh?

Anyhow, I have read that it's relatively simple (from who's perspective I
don't
know) to import a Mac for a whole hell-of-a-lot less.  What I want to know
is:
Is there a mail order company that is willing to put a Mac on a plane across
to
Glasgow for me?  It would have to be switched-mode supply (50Hz, 240V) I
guess,
and I hear that 60Hz monitors don't work too well over here, so I'd be willing
to buy the monitor here - but I don't know too much about it.  Alternatively,
is there anyone on this side of the pond who has done something similar?

Please don't hog the board - reply direct to me and I'll post a summary if
anything useful crops up.

Jonathan.

--
Jonathan AH Hogg,
Asst. Chief Cook & Bottle-Washer, Systems & Networks Group.
Computer Services, Stirling University, Stirling FK9 4LA, Scotland.

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 16:19:34 PDT
From: bandris@netcom.com (Robert P. Andris)
Subject: internet news readers

I think this topic is an important one for those reading news
groups on the internet.  I subscribe to a commercial internet
service (netcom.com) which does an excellent job of providing news
to their subscribers.  They offer as news-readers "rn", "trn",
"nn", and "vnews".  However, they all pale in comparison to
something like Steve Falkenburg's "NewsWatcher" which is now being
upgraded under the coordination of John Norstad at Northwestern U.

The difference is the windowed graphics interface that "NewsWatcher"
provides.  I can skim the titles of dozens of news articles using
"NewsWatcher", in the time it takes to cover just one with "rn".
Since "NewsWatcher" uses the AppleTalk serial link, I started
looking into how to use it with a modem.

Finally, I got a message from "gustilo@POBOX.UPENN.EDU" suggesting
the use of "MacSLIP" from Hyde Park Software.  I immediately called
my service, netcom, to ask if they supported SLIP (Serial Line Internet
Protocol).  They said they did, so I ordered MacSLIP from Hyde Park.
Being a TCP dummy it took me a week, with the help of Rick Watson,
MacSLIP's author, to get the MacTCP addresses and the MacSLIP settings
right.

After establishing the SLIP connection I proceeded to attempt to
configure "NewsWatcher".  No luck!  A call to "netcom" revealed
that they do not support connection with an "NNTP" server from their
SLIP server, which of course, is required for "NewsWatcher".

Now for a couple of questions:

1. Does anyone know of a workable solution for people who hook up
to the internet using the internet?

2. Are there other news readers which you can install on your Mac,
or in your account on the remote host and on your Mac?

If I can come up with a workable solution I'll post it here for all
info-mac readers.

Bob Andris can be reached at "bandris@netcom.com"

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 13:03 EDT
From: CAPTANSKI33%SNYCORVA.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: Kermit

I attempted to download something yesterday using MacKermit. As a preference
I selected data fork as the transfer mode. Then when I was finished
downloading
I attempted to unbinhex it. However BinHex didn't acknowledge it as a binhexed
document. Should I have downloaded it with the resource fork. If so, how do
you
know whether to download with data fork or resource fork? If this is an FAQ
please reply directly to captanski33@snycorva.bitnet. Thanks.

Chris Tanski

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Date: 30 Aug 1992 20:56:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: usr4818a@tso.uc.EDU (Robert E. Winston)
Subject: Labels (Easter Egg)

In # 208, vturner@nmsu.edu writes:

 > I have various letters as "placeholders" in the label menu.
 >  The letters are:l a n j e r, I think. Not doubled is the
 > first label. Maybe it spellssomething, but I don't know what
 > it is...

The letters are alanjef. So who wrote the Labels CP?
Alan Jef or Al and Jef?
Put a space in each box to get rid of the letters.

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 08:23:19 -0500 (CDT)
From: Larry Rymal <lrymal@tenet.edu>
Subject: LC speaker problem (R)

Francois Brillon <FBRILLON@UDESVM> writes:

>  In a previous digest, I read that the Mac IIsi have some problems with
> the speaker/power light wire. In this, I found the answer of my question.
> My mac LC have the same problem as described... but nobody at my Apple
> dealer told me about the corrosion problem. They just say : "No, there's no
> problems we check all the thing and it's ok." Oh yeah! it's ok, but I
> know that it's not.

	I am quite sure that the LC has the problem.  Look at the new
speaker/fan "assembly" of the LCII vs that of the LC "Classic".
	At any rate, I'd suggest to not fight it.  Go to a Radio Shack
or Tandy store, buy the cheapest stereo amp that can be found (about
$25.00 U.S.A.), and purchase a desktop speaker (also $25.00 U.S.A.).
Take your Mac LC's manual with the port pin-outs to the Tandy dealer,
and have the salesperson get you a suitable cable to hook all this
together.
	The sound from the Mac is marvelous, provided you get the audio
away from the tiny internal speaker.  And the small amp and small speaker
will not take up that much space on the desk.  Note that since the
speaker is cheap, it will not be shielded and will have to be kept
about two feet away from the monitor.

--Larry Rymal <lrymal@tenet.edu>

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 12:26:55 CDT
From: gray@cmgroup.engr.wisc.edu (Gary L. Gray)
Subject: Mac-like Internet access via modem

This may be a FAQ, but I have not found a definitive answer anywhere, just
allusions to the answer.  I often use a modem with my Mac IIci at home.  I
am able to login to the UNIX workstations (Sun and HP) at school through
the modem and do all the command-line UNIX stuff I care to (ftp, finger,
telnet, email, etc.).  What I would like to be able to do is use programs
like GopherApp, XFerIt and NewsWatcher to take advantage of a more Mac-like
interface to to do all of these things.  Is it possible to do that via
modem?  If so, what additional software do I need?  Is there any additional
hardware required?  Does anyone have any recommendations?

Thank you.

Gary L. Gray                 *   Engineering Mechanics and Astronautics
gray@cmgroup.engr.wisc.edu   *   University of Wisconsin-Madison

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92  12:04 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <RTL%SIVA.BRISTOL.AC.UK@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Mac advertising

The current UK issue of MacUser mentions in passing that recent US Mac
advertising features the statement, "I wanted to make my work simpler, so I
bought Windows".  I was curious to know the punchline to this assertion - it
seems to me the more gullible or PC-sympathetic folks out there might take
it literally and get the wrong idea!
By way of contrast, all that Apple UK seems able to muster recently has
been a dismal full-page ad in the national press featuring a huge photo of a
tortoise attempting to, er, mount an army helmet.  The accompanying blurb
assures readers that, unlike the tortoise, they needn't worry about
compatibility because (I quote from memory) "Apple Macintosh.  We're
compatible with everything".  The text then goes on to stress how Macs can
cheerfully accept data from MS-DOS.  I thought it was pathetic.  With
advertising like that, who needs detractors?

PS: Regarding my query about data transfer rates over Internet (issue 208):
yeah, I've been made aware I typed "9 Mbytes/sec" rather than 9k/sec - sorry
about the ridiculous slip

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 16:36:16 EDT(-0400)
From: ed@titipu.meta.com (Edward Reid)
Subject: Mac Plus with System 7 dies (Q)

I have a Mac Plus with a Cutting Edge (aka Ehman) hard disk (Seagate
ST138N version lj mechanism).  I want to run System 7 on the Plus.
(Please don't argue with my decision.  It will make life MUCH easier
for me, and won't hurt the performance of the only application that
runs there.)  The problem is that after I install System 7, the Plus
quickly halts.  It halts with the disk in-use light on and the cpu in a
two-instruction loop doing a test.  The location of the halt is not
consistent -- usually it halts some (varying) place while rebuilding
the desktop, but occasionally that completes and it halts doing
something else a short time later.  System 6 runs perfectly -- it
doesn't get rebooted for weeks at a time.

I've tried:

   Re-installing System 7 -- five times.

   Re-formatting the disk -- several times.

   Re-installing the disk driver -- several times.

   Using a different disk driver (replaced the Cutting Edge driver with
     Disk Manager Mac).

   Calling Ehman (last year, before they went belly up).

   Calling On Track (makers of Disk Manager Mac).

Both vendors disclaimed responsibility, which seems reasonable given
that two different drivers yielded exactly the same result.

About the only thing I can think of that I haven't tried is changing the
disk interleave -- it is, and always has been, the recommended 1:3.

Does anyone have any idea what is wrong, or what else I might try?

I would appreciate email, or email copies of, replies, as
comp.sys.mac.digest has not been reaching this site reliably.

Edward Reid  (8*}>
  eel:   ed@titipu.meta.com  or  nosc.mil!titipu.meta.com!ed
  snail: PO Box 378/Greensboro FL 32330

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 18:00:35 ADT
From: John Corbit <corbit@esseX.stfx.ca>
Subject: more info on faulty ThoughtPattern file

Hi again. I downloaded the thought-pattern.hqx file from info-mac/demo
again and found it to be faulty again in the same way.

I get a CRC ($7A29) eror in Binhex.

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 17:44:13 EDT
From: Michael Pieper <PIEPERMW%DUVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Network mail

We are looking for a good mailer program to run on a local LAN.  We
have used Quickmail in the past which we have found very good.  But
alas it does not work in system 7 and untill we can afford the upgrade
we would like to get a cheap substitute.
Respond directly to me and I'll sumerize.
mike "P".....thanxxx

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 11:04:34 +0300
From: eyler%trbilun.bitnet@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU (Akif Eyler)
Subject: Odd screen sizes (C)

Al Bloom said in Info-Mac #206:
> I did not, however, swear at any software publishers because they didn't
> account for every odd screen size Apple came up with.

On the contrary. The software publishers should never assume "standard"
screen sizes. This is a strong point made by Apple in the original
documents as early as 1984. Considering the fact that it is very easy
for the programmer to get the screen size from the operating system, I
would consider the opposite an important programming error.


Akif Eyler
Bilkent University
eyler@trbilun.bitnet

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 16:26 EDT
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <JNeedleman@MCIMail.com>
Subject: Personal Internet Access

James Milles has compiled a very comprehensive listing of ways individuals
can access the Internet. It's much better than the one I offered here a
month ago (got a few DOZEN requests for that). Here's the table of
contents:

> INDIVIDUAL ACCESS TO INTERNET
> August 21, 1992
>
> Compiled by James Milles
> Saint Louis University Law Library
> millesjg@sluvca.slu.edu
> (314) 658-2759
>
> PART I         Daniel Dern's Short Answer to "How do I get a list of
Internet
>                Service/Access Providers for Individual Accounts"
>
> PART II        NETWORK PROVIDER REFERRAL LIST, NSF Network Service Center
>                (NNSC)
>
> PART III       Internet-access-providers-US.txt
>
> PART IV        Public Dialup Internet Access List (PDIAL)
>
> PART V         nixpub long listing--Open Access UNIX (*NIX) Sites

You can get it by anonymous ftp at liberty.uc.wlu.edu,filed as:
/pub/lawlib/internet.access

Jeff Needleman  <JNeedleman@MCIMail.com>

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 18:10 BST
From: cyk10@cus.cam.ac.uk (C.Y. Khoo)
Subject: Portrait Prombles (sic) (Q)

Hi Netters!

My Apple Portrait Monitor has suddenly decided to misbehave - The entire
image seems to be rotated a couple of degrees counterclockwise
(with respect to the casing). It's mainly a cosmetic problem, but a
quite irritating one (unfortunately). I don't mind opening up the thing
to try to adjust the controls, but haven't a clue where the controls are.
If anyone out there has done this before, I would be grateful for some
pointers!

Thanks,
Chong-Yee Khoo
(no relation)
Wellcome/CRC Institute
Cambridge CB2 1QR
England

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 13:55:06 GMT
From: Michael Everson <EVERSON%IRLEARN.UCD.IE@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Price for StyleWriter Suomissa:

How much does a StyleWriter cost in Helsinki? I have an Estonian friend
who wants to buy one and we want to compare prices between Ireland and
Finland.

Michael Everson
School of Architecture, UCD, Richview, Clonskeagh, Dublin 14, E/ire
Phone: +353-1-706-2745  Fax: +353-1-283-7778

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 01:09:50 EDT
From: maynard@helios.TN.CORNELL.EDU
Subject: Problems with Norton file recovery

I agree with you completely. I've tried to get Norton to save files about
three
times. Every time I had FileSaver installed, and tried the save RIGHT after
I trashed the file (and suddenly realized "Oh my God"). And all three times
I saw a long list of files to be resurrected, not one of which was what I
wanted. Just one more data point in my continual disappointment with Norton.
My next disk utilities package will NOT be Norton 3.0

Maynard Handley

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 13:04:13 EDT
From: mem@jhufos.pha.jhu.edu (Mel Martinez x8378)
Subject: Quadra 700 Overdrive now shipping!

I just recieved a message from Newer Technologies announcing that the Quadra
700 version of their Quadra/Overdrive clock speed accelerator started shipping
a few days ago.  They expect to take about 2 weeks to clear out back orders
for
it before filling out new orders.

For those that don't know what it is, this is a small card/fan combo that
plugs
into the unused ROM slot on the motherboard.  It includes software for varying
the clock speed of the cpu up to around 33 MHz.  Actual maximum speed will
vary
depending on the exact tolerances of each system, but NT expects the vast
majority to be able to reach 33 MHz just fine.  This works with 80ns RAM and
100 ns Video Ram (What you should already have installed) so you won't have to
upgrade your memory.  The list price should be the same as for the Q900
version
which is $349, however, look for 'street' (mail order) prices as low as $239
or
less.

Also, I am not 100% sure of this, so check it out with Newer Technology or
DayStar before you try it, but the Overdrive should work with the faster
(Q950)
version of Daystar Digital's FastCache PDS card for Quadras.  The cheaper
version for Q700/900 machines does not have static ram chips that are rated
fast enough for the higher clock speed access.  It might work, but probably
won't give you any benefit.  The faster board works with both the Q700/900 as
well as the Q950 though so it is the one to get if you foresee boosting your
clock speed.  This paragraph is based on rumour & educated guesses so please ,
check it out for certain with Daystar or Newer.  If someone has more concrete
info on this, please post it to the digest.

Disclaimer:  I have no relation to either DayStar or Newer except as a
potential customer.

Mel Martinez
The Johns Hopkins University
Dept. of Physics
mem@jhufos.pha.jhu.edu

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 18:15:33 EST
From: lingeke2@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Ken Linger)
Subject: SE/30 Sound Problem?

In a continuation of my efforts to have everything go wrong on
my Mac within a month of each other, I have come up with another
problem.

The sound in the right channel has stopped working.  I have
speakers plugged into the SE/30 and sound only is coming from the
left (yes, it did work before and nothing was changed).  Programs
like Sound Trekker, when on stereo, only make sound from the left
speaker.  When I unplug the speakers, the sound naturally comes
out of the Mac speaker, but at around half the normal volume (ie,
the startup beep is fairly quiet).

Also, plugging headphones in also yields sound only from the left.

I've read several threads on bad sound on the SI.  Has anyone
experienced something like this on an SE/30?  I've opened it up
and all obvious wires are still connects (including the speaker).

Ken Linger
Lingeke2@mentor.cc.purdue.edu

{ A recent attempt to post this apparently failed.  Still, if it
shows up twice, please forgive me. }

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Date: 30 Aug 92 11:28:24 U
From: "bnhirsch" <bnhirsch@wiccmail.weizmann.ac.il>
Subject: Sharing phones with faxes and FPU's (Q)

Hello,

I would like to get information on boxes that allow you to use a fax, modem
and
a telephone on the same line.  I have heard that incoming calls can be routed
to the telephone fax or modem automatically.  Is anyone using the Easy Connect
Line Sharer or the FMX Fax Modem Switch from VSI telecommunications?  They are
advertised in MacWarehouse.  Will they do the job?

I would like to also get some information on FPU's.  An LC is being used for a
lot of graphics work.  If I install a FPU will it run faster?  There are
several clock speeds of FPU (16Mhz, 33Mhz, etc.)  Is there an anvantage to
using faster speeds on an LC?  How much improvement can I expect?

Sincerely,

David
bnhirsch@wiccmail.weizmann.ac.il

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 12:13:17 -0500
From: baim@aaec1.aaec.com
Subject: Soft-PC (Warning) (A) (A)

smwall@cor4.pica.army.mil writes:
>I think the various folks that have defended Insignia's implementation of
>the zoom box in SoftPC are letting Insignia's programmers & tech support
>people off the hook much too easily.  Using the Gestalt Manager in System 7
...
>a more friendly response would be to put up
>a dialog box saying something like 'Zooming to this size will make the
>window larger than your monitor.  Are you sure you want to do this?
...
>IMHO, what Insignia did is brain dead.  To compound matters, they didn't
train
>their phone support people to recognize what must be a common complain,
>and to gracefully tell people what's wrong.

Insignia's implementation is in keeping with the Apple Human Interface
Guidelines.  An additional dialog annoying the user over such a trivial
inconvenience as clicking the zoom box again would be much more intrusive.
As for confused users calling to complain, they should RTFM!  I can't
believe this  has caused such venomous rage in people.  Get a grip for
crying out loud!  With so much software crashing and burning when you try
to save or print or perform some other basic activity, there are plenty of
real bugs to worry about!

Paul Baim

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:28 EST
From: Carlo Fusco <G1400023@NICKEL.LAURENTIAN.CA>
Subject: Sound troubles on LC

Hello,

I have a question from a friend who has an LC, but no internet access.
He has an LC that has stopped producing sound.  He told me, before it went
completely it used to fluctuate.  Well, now there is no sound at all.  Is it
the same problem as on an SI?  I tried turning the volume to full and nothing
happened.  Does he have to clean the contacts?  Or, are LC sound problems
linked to some other factor other than oxidizing contacts?

Thanks
Carlo Fusco
g1400023@nickel.laurentian.ca

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 04:14 EDT
From: M94JHINSON@Ruby.VCU.EDU
Subject: type and creator help

Can anyone tell me what application creates documents with the following type
and creator: DMd3/DART?
						Thanks,
						Greg Hinson

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 12:33:39 PDT
From: lsil!mhost!osast8!mintz@fernwood.mpk.ca.us (Doron Mintz)
Subject: Typing tutors (Q)

Can anyone recommend a typing tutor for the Mac?
Please include comments about features and the lack of.
I will post a summary if I get any responses.

Thank you

Doron Mintz

mintz@lsil.com

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 16:29 EDT
From: CAPTANSKI33%SNYCORVA.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: White Knight

If this is an FAQ please reply directly to captanski33@snycorva.bitnet. Does
anyone know if there are any communication programs available via FTP
other than ZTERM and Mackermit? Thanks.

Chris Tanski

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:32:06 -2300
From: cl7841s@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU
Subject: Word 5 Bug with MacPlus (Q)

I have a few users who are having problems accessing keyboard command-key
equivalents in Word 5.  Has anybody heard of any problems like this with
Word 5 and a Mac Plus?

Colin Lamb - MacMeister 8-)>  -  Drake University  -  Des Moines

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 11:08:04 CDT
From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez)
Subject: WordPerfect and equations

WordPerfect and equations
In Info-Mac Digest #207, gfoster@darpa.mil (Glen Foster) writes:
>I am supporting a user who has a requirement to prepare mathematical
>equations for technical reports. The user has to be able to deliver
>formatted documents in WordPerfect for Mac ver. 2.0.3 so using Word or
>another equation-capable wordprocessor is not a realistic option

Neither is WordPerfect. You can paste in equations as PICTs from
Expressionist or MathType, but WP has no way to adjust the baseline of the
equations. You end up with equations that sit several points above the
baseline of the surrounding text. I've been on to WP several times about
this over the past year, but while they always smile and nod, they have yet
to address this issue.

Of course, you can avoid this by avoiding in-line equations.

Have you considered FrameMaker?

David Gutierrez
Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 08:06 EST
From: "Robert S. McLean" <R_MCLEAN%UTOROISE.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: XLISP: An Object-oriented Lisp (Q)

I am looking for a Mac version of XLISP: An Object-oriented Lisp,
originally by David Michael Betz, and implimented on many platforms.
I'd like to be able to recompile the Mac version so I can add some
extensions to it. The only version for the Mac I've found so far is
XLISP-STAT, written by Luke Tierney at the University of Minnisota in
1989. Any pointers to other Mac versions would be appreciated.

Robert S. McLean, OISE/MECA, 252 Bloor St. W., Toronto Canada M5S 1V6

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