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From: ejh@khonshu.colorado.edu (Edward J. Hartnett)
Subject: Re: Bruce Lee on Classical Karate
Organization: Cooperative Institute for Research in the Environmental Sciences
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 04:14:59 GMT

In article <42@motatl.UUCP> billc@atl.mcd.mot.com (Bill Cutts) writes:
>
>In article <1992Apr11.163348.14635@colorado.edu> ejh@khonshu.colorado.edu (Edward J. Hartnett) writes:
>
>  <snip>
>
>>	When I do these one-step sparring things, I'm very often
>>putting myuself through weird contortions to get all the techniques on
>>target. Why would I want to lean down and do an uppercut to someone's
>>ribs, when their face is right at my shoulder level? 
>
>So you can see how awkward that technique is under those circumstances
>and not attempt it when you really need to? :-)

I like this answer. It's funny, but also true in a way. Doesn't
quite fly for me for extended practice. However, I know you ment it
as a joke.

>
>>	Another thing that really bothers me a lot about these
>>one-step things is that you know the exact attack and the exact
>>defense. That is so far from what would actually happen in a fight as
>>to make me wonder what value these one-step things have, regardless of
>>the other things I've already learned. 
>
>What good is kata practice when there isn't even an opponent with
>pre-arranged moves there? (Excluding two man kata of course.)
>I view one-step sparing techniques as being a "step down" from kata
>practice. Most of the combinations which we do in these controlled
>sparring situations are taken from the kata and let the students (and
>instructors :-) ) see how the moves from the kata might be applied to a
>real situation. Having seen an application of a piece of the kata may
>help to perform the kata in a more aware state, i.e. rather than the
>kata being simply move here, do this,  the movements as a whole begin to
>make logical sense. IMO katas form the framework upon which you hang
>your individual interpretation of your art. One-step sparring is simply
>a tool with which to better understand the kata. 
    <snip>
>
>Bill.

I like this answer too, and this is really how I think of them
(one-steps) now. Sort of a mini-kata. I can live with that.
However, one thing that doesn't work for me here is that, in kata,
when and how to apply the stuff is left as an excersize for the
student, whereas in one-step you must apply a certain tech. to a 
certain attack, even if it wouldn't really work for you at all.
A bad habit, IMHO.

But thanks for pointing this out. I is helpful.
		Ed Hartnett
From: gy0e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Gwokang Yang)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Ambujitsu
Date: 16 Apr 92 04:41:47 GMT
Organization: Sophomore, English, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Has anyone heard of the martial art ambujitsu? I just read an article on
it in a magazine.
From: brankin@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (william.t.rankin)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Fashions (was: Black Belt)
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:16:12 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <22570@dog.ee.lbl.gov> jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov writes:

>>a hakama	a hakama	a hakama	a hakama	a hakama
>
>Thanks!  I've always wondered how the chorus to "The Lion Sleeps 
>Tonight" really went.
>
>--Joe,

AAAARRRRGGGGGHHHH!!!! :-)
(Bill crawls up from under his desk)
(His fellow workers wondering what caused the past five minutes of
 laughing fits)
(The department secretary will be calling 911 now and asking for 
 the men in the white suits to come by)

EVERYBODY SING ALONG!!!

(a hakama, a hakama, a hakama,..... :-)

-bill
(walking off into the sunset, singing to himself...)
From: sc1u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stephen Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: novice to master of basics to novice
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:05:23 GMT
Organization: Comp & Comm - Telecommunications, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

lampij@brandonu.ca writes:
>         Those black belts who train
>         regularly are easily seen by the degree of wear of their belts.

	Yeah, everyone says this, so the obvious course of action is
to take your fresh new black belt and run the orbital sander on it.
	I saw a 14-15 year old kid who's black belt was uniformly worn
down to the white. The pattern of wear that I've seen on old black
belts is that the area around the obi is worn out a LOT and the rest
of the belt is usually much less worn - more so on the edges than in
the center.
	What next? Will people put fake bullet-holes in their black
belts???!!!
	Why not just buy stone-washed, acid-streaked, bullet-holed
black belts outright?
	Hmmm...a new item for the Summer '92 Meikdo catalog.

Stephen Y. Chan		Programmer Analyst	CMU Telecommunications
stevec+@cmu.edu		(412)268-5115 [me] 	(412)268-4987 [FAX]
From: doug@eng.umd.edu (Douglas N. Cohen)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: renee warren
Summary: greetings and salutations from renee
Keywords: -=-=-=-=-=-< and now for something completely different! >-=-=-=-=-=-
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:46:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: eng.1992Apr09.004645.6077
Followup-To: doug:  < doug@eng.umd.edu > : < doug@lpf.umd.edu >
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, College of Engineering


hi all,

	i got some snail-mail and two (borrowed accounts) e-mail messages from
our very own (but net-less) renee warren.  she is doing well, and sends her 
regards to all.  she is still net-less, but i can get net-mail to her through
another person who is willing to act as conduit.  i also have her us-mail path
(boy! have i been logged in to long!) make that address.
	she wants to know what's been happening and i should catch her up on
the net-happenings.  (i was thinking about sending her.... nah... i won't start
that here.... {touch bin/smiles/#4})
	she has been training hard, and hopes to attend the NACMAF tournament
this summer. 
	anyone wanting to send their greetings, a message, or e-mail can contact
me for details....
	you know the way.....
	and, as always, i am/at:

             doug:  < doug@eng.umd.edu > : < doug@lpf.umd.edu >

           -=-=-=-=-=-=-< a ghost in the machine >--=-=-=-=-=-=-
From: rja@batcomfs.Eng.Sun.COM (Ninja Squirrel Master)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Which is most effective? Point/Edge weapons.
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:53:59 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: batcomfs

In article <1472@celia.UUCP> celia!neil@usc.edu (Neil Richmond) writes:
>In article <JON.92Apr9140547@zeus.med.utah.edu> jon@zeus.med.utah.edu (Jonathan Byrd) writes:
> 
>>fourth, being poked in the arm is not nearly as devastating as having
>>one's arm completely severed.  a "point" in one style may not be
>>nearly as devastating as a "point" in another style.
>
>I don't expect this would happen often, becuase of the great amount of force 
>required to cut the bone. As I mentioned in an earlier post, the Yagyu style

If you get the right angle, and have a decent blade, you should be able
to cut through the bone, even with a relatively short, say, 9-10" blade,
if it's flat-ground and sharp.  It's been done.

>specialized in slashing the wrists. This would be much more effective than
>slashing the arm because:

    One could sever the arm at any point between the shoulder and wrist,
    and it would still be severing the arm :-).
>
>1) It would cut the ligaments and tendons that support the finger movements
>rendering the attacker helpless and causing the attacker to immediately
>drop the weapon

    *If* you get the right flexors.
>
>2) the speed of the attack could be much faster because of the subtlety of the 
>movement wouldn't require the setup need to exert the force needed to sever
>the arm. Also, it is possible that a slash to the arm be not be enough to
>stop the attack immediately because it would not cut enough tissue and it
>may only render one arm incapable of continuing the attack.

    Yes, but I'll bet that most people would give up if they sustained a
    cut serious enough to disable their arm.
--
    Robert Allen, rja@sun.com		DISCLAIMER: I said it, not my company.

    "Traditionalists often study what is taught, not what there is to create."
			     - Ed Parker, Grandmaster, American Kenpo.
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
From: naldrett@bcarh893.bnr.ca (Steve Naldrett)
Subject: Re: How to choose a Martial Art discipline?
Reply-To: naldrett@bcarh893.bnr.ca (Steve Naldrett)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:47:59 GMT

In article <lqrj++h.dsmythe@netcom.com>, dsmythe@netcom.com (Dave Smythe) writes:
|> The biggest problem with your statements is the characterization of
|> Kung Fu as a single style.  I almost fell out of my chair when you
|> left Kung Fu off the weapons list...

You are right.  I know I should not have classified 
Kung Fu as a single style, but I'm not familiar enough with the
different styles to even know what they are.  I know there are
many, and thier techniques vary widely, which is why I included
it in almost every category.  I fully intended to include it 
under weapons as well, if I did not it was an oversight on my part.

I started studying Kung Fu about 6 months ago.  The classes are
very informal, and not of any particular style.  The only name
I've heard it called is Shaolin, but I realize that isn't very
specific.  My instructor knows many styles of Kung Fu and 
Tai Chi, and teaches us whatever techniques he thinks are best
for a given situation, but he doesn't usually distinguish what
style each technique is.  I classified it according to this
limited exposure to a paticular instructors style.

|> 
|> Yeah, Tiger style is real gentle...
|> 
|> Naw, Hsing-I and Ba Gua have no mental discipline component...
|> 

Don't know anything about Tiger, Hsing-I, and Ba Gua.  Are
these Kung Fu styles?  If someone could post a list of
different Kung Fu styles, and how they differ, I would
like to see it.


|> D
|> 
|> -- 
|> ========================================================================
|> Dave Smythe   N6XLP    dsmythe@netcom.com (also dsmythe@cs.stanford.edu)

Steve Naldrett (naldrett@bnr.ca) | These are my opinions only, nothing else
Bell-Northern Research Ltd.      | expressed or implied.
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada          |
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From: Rupin.Dang@dartmouth.edu (Rupin Dang)
Newsgroups: rec.misc
Subject: Cash paid for video equipment
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:40:13 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH


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contact me if you have something to offer:

Sony Betacam SP camcorder BVW-200/300 or similar models (in PAL.)
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From: gt7219a@prism.gatech.EDU (Christopher Michael Lawyer)
Newsgroups: rec.misc
Subject: Re: this is just a test -- please excuse me
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:04:01 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Apr13.021136.12315@usenet.a.guy.com> rec.misc writes:
>
>
>just a test...just a test
>
>by

OH NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOT ANOTHER DAMN TEST!!!!!!!!!!
I JUST CAN'T TAKE IT ANY MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!

-The Manatee-
From: br762@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tim Werner)
Newsgroups: rec.misc
Subject: this is just a test -- please excuse me
Date: 13 Apr 92 02:11:36 GMT
Reply-To: rec.misc
Organization: guy.misc.com



just a test...just a test

by
From: toby@milton.u.washington.edu (Toby Bradshaw)
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: Re:  Long-range hunting
Date: 17 Apr 92 12:34:24 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

Geoff Kotzar:
>I have not seen the bullet you speak of (300gr .338 MK)
>but given the BC's for some of
>Sierra's other MatchKing bullets the BC should be .600 or better. This is
>a moot point since MatchKings are not GameKings and are not suitable for
>hunting.

Actually, Sierra recommends their Match King .224s for varminting
if shot at high velocity.  I've killed a wagonload of chucks with
them with good results.  Out to a couple hundred yards they'll
blow up even out of a .223.  For big game, using MK bullets would
require some testing.  For sure, MKs are not designed with hunting
in mind.

>The materials used to construct a bullet have nothing to due with
>determining a bullet's Sectional Density (SD). SD= W/D^2 where
>W=bullet weight and D= bullet diameter. My guess at a reason for the
>X-Bullet having a lower BC than the manufacturer claims is the
>relatively blunt meplat.

You're right.

>Does your second sentence mean that the hunter now has two guns, one
>the light weight bench gun and a second stalking model? What does your
>hunter do with the excess paraphernalia like the very expensive range
>finder and the second rifle not to mention the bench? Is he actually
>hunting out of his vehicle?

All the stuff is set up near a vehicle in the pictures I saw.

Toby Bradshaw
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: scott@niwot.scd.ucar.edu (Larry Scott)
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: alt.archery?
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:53:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Apr14.085334.22432
Organization: Scientific Computing Division/NCAR, Boulder, CO
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu


	Alt.archery? Where? I can't find it anywhere!
From: infmx!gregm@uunet.UU.NET (Greg Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: .22 shot shells
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:46:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Apr15.084620.20041
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

Are .22 shot shells harmful to a rifle or handgun ?
Are they even usable in a revolver ?
What game would they be appropriate for ?
What size is the shot ?

       Thanx,

           Greg Mitchell          gregm@informix.com
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: ceng@mdd.comm.mot.com (Curtis Eng)
Subject: Re: How do I catch a woodpecker?
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Date: 8 Apr 92 08:35:04 CDT
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

In article <1992Apr7.120835.7039@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, webdw@mvutd.att.com (Bruce D Woods) writes:
|> 
|> Get up early in the am with your rifle w/ .22 birdshot.  One shot
|> that doesn't make much noise and the problem is gone.  (A termite
|> exterminator ???)
|> 
|> BDW

True, but won't the .22 birdshot make swiss cheese out of my shingles
on the roof?


Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: SCHULTZ@admin1.usask.ca (Robert Schultz)
Subject: 22 center fire and remaining energy
Date: 10 Apr 92 09:20:28 CDT
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

In Saskatchewan we are legislated to calibres greater than 23, i.e.
eliminates all 22's for hunting. The only 25 lb deer we have are the
"young ones", i.e.  bambi's.

However, I was quite suprised by Jonathan Spencer's note that in the
UK they require 1700 ft-lbs @100yds. As some of you may know, I am
PRIMARILY a muzzle loading hunter, and although I do not attempt
shooting at distances over 100 yards (I have shot one mule deer at 110
yd), the remaining energy is far from 1700 ft-lbs. I do not have any
books on ballistics for the older style projectiles (pre 1900), but
the information I do have suggests that a .490" round ball loaded with
70 gr FFFg has about 500 ft-lbs at 100 yards.

Some folks with the NRA suggested that 500 ft-lbs @ 100 yd is a
minimum requirement in the USA. Any comments?

Does anyone out there have good sources for ballistic info (titles,
authors and publisher info would be welcomed).


Rob Schultz.


Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: wybranie@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Suzanne Wybraniec)
Subject: Dryocopus pileatus
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD
Date: 10 Apr 92 09:23:55 CDT
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu


 
Just trying to get attention and impress you with the subject line :-) !

Congratulations on your Pileated Woodpecker.  (This is the big one with
the red crest after which Woody was modeled.)  I'm sure you don't appre-
ciate his hammering, but it will be over in a few weeks.  It's a male
hormone thing: he wants to make the LOUDEST noise possible to attract
a mate and declare his territory.  They will choose hollow trees, alumi-
num siding, satellite dishes, chimney pipes, *your house*, whatever it
takes to be the loudest.
 
You can try scaring him away, hanging strips of sheet metal, covering
that part of the siding with chicken wire, and just waiting it out.

You may or may not be comforted by the knowledge that a lot of people
would love to see one.  I quote Audubon's field guide: "Despite its
size, this elegant woodpecker is adept at keeping out of sight.  Ob-
taining a close view of one usually requires careful stalking."

You can't shoot it.  Almost every one of our birds is protected by the
Migratory Bird Treaty.  This law has extremely severe penalties - if
some idiot shoots a raptor, in particular, s/he will probably go to
prison and will owe a lot of money.  The three birds you can shoot are:
 
   1. European Starling - Sturnus vulgaris - there is usually no mixup
      in identifying this bird.  However, if you are in the habitat
      enjoyed by Red-Winged Blackbirds, do not shoot a female red-wing.

   2. House Sparrow aka English Sparrow aka Weaver Finch - Passer 
      domesticus - there is a very real identification problem here
      (for most people) with respect to our native sparrows.  Our
      native sparrows are highly desirable (and protected) so be sure
      you know what a male (and, much more difficult, female) House
      Sparrow look like before taking aim.

   3. Pigeon aka Rock Dove - Columba livia - this bird is not a protected
      species, but you usually find them in the city, and a city will
      often have an ordinance against shooting within their limits.

 
 Suzanne (Northern Virginia)                       wybranie@oasys.dt.navy.mil
                                                     David Taylor Model Basin
                                              Carderock Division Headquarters
                                                 Naval Surface Warfare Center


Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: fiddler@concertina.Eng.Sun.COM (steve hix)
Subject: Re: Woodpeckers
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
Date: 10 Apr 92 09:24:05 CDT
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

In article <1992Apr9.080422.18933@doug.cae.wisc.edu> hunter@s07.es.llnl.gov (Steve Hunter 423-2219) writes:
>>> I have had flickers hammer my (metal) chimney.  Really wakes you up.
>
>	While walking to my office one morning, I heard this strange
>metalic banging. It would start and then stop before I could locate
>the source of the sound. Not being in a real hurry (I was heading to
>my office remember :-), I waited around until I located the source
>of the sound. Finally, I saw the bird hammering away on one of our
>10 meter satellite dishes.

More evidence that pounding on things with their heads *does* have
lasting effect on woodpeckers.


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From: X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: Re: Long-range hunting
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:20:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Apr6.092016.8721
Organization: Texas A&M University
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

In article <1992Apr3.075939.15074@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
    toby@milton.u.washington.edu (Toby Bradshaw) writes:
>You're a pretty excitable guy, Steve.  Please choose the dividing
>line between an ethical shot and an unethical shot:
>50 yards; 100 yards; 200 yards; 300 yards; 400 yards; 500 yards;
>600 yards; 700 yards; 800 yards; 900 yards; 1000 yards; 1100 yards;
>1199 yards (we know how you feel about 1200 yards).  Would you expect
>everyone who disagrees with your line is unethical?  Would you expect
>that everyone who chooses a shorter range than you is justified in
>thinking that you're unethical?
 
 
    Instead of drawing 1 line in this continuous spectrum, draw 2.
The first is drawn at the furtherest distance at which it is
certain to ethical take a shot (IMHO that would be in the neighborhood
of 250 yards for deer).  Draw the second line at the closest distance
at which it is certain that it is UNethical to take a shot (again,
IMHO that would be somewhere out around 450 yards).  Also, keep in
mind that these numbers are for a specific type of hunting.  If
you're out antelope hunting, the numbers would probably be adjusted
higher.
 
    With this method, I can safely say that *I* wouldn't take a
shot over 250 yards.  But I couldn't critize you for your 400 yard
shot (although I may not want to hunt with you again).  But I would
have no problems critizing the 1200 yard shot.
 
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