HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers

This reminds me of my last band.  I had a drummer friend who had made it
his sacred quest to get me into a band (thanks, Bob;-).  He found a rock
band that needed a lead guitarist and I auditioned.  *That* was awful.
So after I bitch about the audition, he tells me about this reggae band
that would be perfect for me.  It took him at least a week to talk me into
auditioning with them.  This audition went great and I got the job.  So, a
week later, it's time to go to the first gig.  I had never played any of
the songs more than twice at this point.  We get onstage and I'm referring
to my copious notes, so I know what to play.  On the first song, I'm
supposed to play rhythm (chank), so I'm doing my best to remember the
chords.  I look over to the other guitarist and he smiles and nods.  Next
thing I know, it's the solo and he's switched to playing rhythm.  So
I dive in and fake my way through a lead.  The whole night, we're trading
parts and it feels like I've played with these guys forever.  It was
incredible!

Jason

PS - I moved away from town, so I had to quit the band.  I went back to
cover a gig about 9 months later.  They had added a lot of new material
and replaced some members.  It was like I had never left!


Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: acura@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (james.r.feeney)
Subject: Extra verse for "Friends in Low Places"
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:40:41 GMT

Our band is going to do "Friends in Low Places" by Garth Brooks (sp?) but
I understand there's an additional verse to the song that he does live.
Does anyone have those lyrics?

Thanks

Jim Feeney
From: ISTS024@UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU (Leonard Watkins)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: wiring help QUICK
Date: 26 Aug 1992 07:35:52 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I've got a nice Bill Lawrence pickup that has four wires, which i assume
it means it has to ability to be "splitted" my quesition is any details
on soldering these wires to a "push-pull-pot" and should it be the vol
or tone pot and what size pot is recommended 205k/500k i would like a more
gradual change on the tone control. Theres also of course the problem
of wiring to the toggle switch. i've done this work b4 so i'm not really
that new, but any detailed instructions would be very appreciated
qucikly please. e-mail to me Ists024@uabdpo. I know that two of the wires
are ground, but i'm not sure of much else please help. Ists024@uabdpo
From: daveh@xtenk.wpd.sgi.com (David Higgen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Show tips & tricks
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:20:51 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In article <92247.16192332GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>, 32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU writes:
> 
> A joke my band uses occasionaly (this might be old but...)
> 
> "We're gonna do a little Chinese song here, it's called
>  Tu Ning"  then tune your guitars.  Its good for a laugh.
> 
>                   Doc

Uurrgghhh. Good for a groan, IMHO.

Rule (n): don't make jokes with long green hair on them...    ;-)

There's really no need to inflict tuning noises on an audience: electronic 
tuners are cheap these days....


		Dave Higgen (daveh@xtenk.wpd.sgi.com)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: bohdan.kiszczuk@rose.com (bohdan kiszczuk)
Subject: problem with MPU-401
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 20:23:55 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.70)


Date Entered: 09-02-92 15:12
B > From: bierman@davidsys.com
B > Subject: problems with MPU-401 and Windows 3.1
B > Date: 1 Sep 92 14:36:54 PST

B > I can't seem to get Windows 3.1 to recognize my Roland IPC (401) 
interface
B > card...
B > 
B > The card has no jumpers, so it has to be installed at IRQ 2/9.  
B > When I try to install the device driver (MPU-401), the default
B > installation fails and a dialog box comes up to let me choose
B > the IRQ and port location.  As soon as I do this, the machine 
B > locks up, requiring a reboot. (Probably an interrupt conflict)
B > I am running 2 serial ports and one printer, and VGA--no network.
B > 
B > I've already asked the windows news groups, but got no response.
B > If anyone there knows how to fix this (yes, I have thought of
B > punting and getting a real machine...Mac II) *please* let me know.
B > 
B > --andy;
B > bierman@davidsys.com
B > (408) 720-6854

          Is it possible that you have some other device configured to 
also  use IRQ 2/9 ? You can get away with this in DOS but not in 
Windows.
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From: mrk@gvgspd.GVG.TEK.COM (Michael R. Kesti)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: REC.MUSIC.DEMO
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:47:23 GMT
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley  CA

In article <1992Aug25.084917.8779@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com>
                                      ireland@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com writes:

>Yeah, sounds like a good idea to me. REC.MUSIC.DEMO - I like that. It's
>be nice to be able to exchange promotional ideas, too.

Here we go again, creating groups for which there is no traffic, nor any
reasonable expectation that such traffic will suddenly appear, along with
carving up the existing group (I refer specifically to rec.music.makers)
into little instrument specific groups, that serve only to either islolate
musicians from one another or to bring the level of crossposting to a point
where there is little to no distinction between thos groups.

I'd appreciate if this kind of discussion were at least moved to news.groups,
where it belongs and to where I have directed followups.  To those of you
who understand this, I apologize for posting this article to rec.music.makers,
and to those of you who don't, I request that you observe the net.conventions
in this matter.  Thank-you.

-- 
============================================================================
Michael Kesti  Grass Valley Group, Inc. | "And like, one and one don't make
    mrk@gvgspd.GVG.TEK.COM              |  two, one and one make one."
    !tektronix!gvgpsa!gvgspd!mrk        |         - The Who, Bargain
From: aaron@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Hotel California solo: who's playing?
Date: 28 Aug 92 08:58:57 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

A little bit late on the 'Hotel California' thread (had problems
with posting access) but is there any truth in the rumour that
the Eagles based HC on 'We Used to Know' by Jethro Tull from their
1969 'Stand Up' album?

		Aaron Turner
From: stevek@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Steve Kauder)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:44:23 GMT
Subject: Passport Now Provides Real Support!!
Organization: HP Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers


Hi,

I just got off the phone with Mike Higgins from Passport Designs.  He's
just taken over as Customer Support Manager.  He's also got a greatly
enlarged staff: four full time people.

He was responding to my comments in a survey they had sent me about
Master Tracks Pro.  I was very explicit that I would not buy anything
else from them or even recommend them ('though I like their products,
MTPro and Encore) until they fixed their technical support.

Mike assured me that there are new attitudes at Passport and that they
want to do a much better job.

Mike also indicated that he was open to hearing from others (foolish
person!) who were unhappy with Passport's support.  So, he has given
me permission to post his name and phone number:
         
                 Mike Higgins
                 (415) 726-0280 ext. 244

We had a very good chat.  I am cautiously optimistic that Passport
will now provide good customer support.  

R's,

Steve Kauder                        Phone: 303-229-3541 
UTD Support and Learning Products   Unix Mail: stevek@hpfcmgw.fc.hp.com

"Computers, Music, The Course in Miracles, what's next??"

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: stahl@iex.UUCP (Kevin Stahl)
Subject: Oops! I meant Carvin XT112 Amp
Organization: IEX Corporation
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 02:17:44 GMT


This is a followup to my previous post requesting info/comments on the
Carvin XT100 amp... it SHOULD have read XT112... Hope this cuts down
the confusion from the first posting.
From: bayomi@bldghsc.lan1.umanitoba.ca (Dennis Bayomi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Roland KR-500 help
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:10:06 GMT
Organization: Computer Department, Medicine, Univ. of Manitoba

Hello, I recently bought a Roland KR-500 keyboard second-hand, without a 
manual and can't figure out how to record a sequence (not using MIDI yet).

Anyone able to help ?

Dennis
bayomi@bldghsc.lan1.umanitoba.ca
Winnipeg, CANADA
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth,rec.audio.pro,alt.guitar
From: jps@hatch.socal.com (J. P. Scott)
Subject: Re: Best price on Mackie?
Organization: Hatch Usenet and E-mail.  Playa del Rey, CA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 03:17:24 GMT

Nadines.  There is a store in hollywood on santa monica at the corner
of sm and vine.  they always give you their lowest price right off the
bat.  and it is usually the lowest you'll find.

james
From: mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Video taping live bands
Date: 4 Sep 1992 19:13:34 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdacs.ucsd.edu

There's a guy here in San Diego who used to be at 'the Bacchanal' (now
called 'Sound FX'; both incredibly stupid names IMHO).  He showed up on
'local original music night' (every Monday, of course, the slowest night
of the week) and video taped every band that played (usually three).  He
offered the tapes to the bands at $50 (including tape).  He got a feed
from the board, which was decent, and did nice things like precede each
tape with a shot of the marquee.  He shot for the band, not for 'show-
manship'.  In other words, he stuck with shots that included the whole
group, rarely (even during solos) closing in on individual members.


I've got his name and number.  If you'd like, I can check on whether he'd
let you contact him.

Michael Breen
singing and philosophizing
(and wishing I'd bought more of the Modern Zoo tapes he'd made)
From: jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Show tips & tricks
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:26:15 GMT
Reply-To: jonb@ingres.com
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company

In article <DCAMPBEL.92Sep2102254@timshel.austin.ibm.com>,
dcampbel@timshel.austin.ibm.com (David L. Campbell) writes a lot of
stuff that I agree with 100%.  One small point...

>   1.  Keep things moving from one song to the next.  People hate it when
>       you take a minute break between every song to tune your guitars or
>       figure out what you're going to play next, etc.

On the other hand, if you need to tune an instrument, tune the instrument.
Do it as fast as you can, but take however much time it takes.  If you're
capable of engaging in clever banter while getting it in tune, fine, but
if you can't concentrate on both cleverness and tuning, tune, and let
someone else in the band be entertaining.  Or just tune and be quiet.
It will be equally frustrating for both you and your audience if you
just plow ahead on an out-of-tune instrument because of some misguided
idea of pacing.

>   7.  This one some folks might not agree with:  Don't apologize to the
>       audience for your performance....

I, for one, agree with it.  Along the same lines (and I admit to having
a lot of trouble with this one myself): don't, no matter how much you
feel that way, let internal tensions within the band show up on stage.
If a fellow band member blows a solo in exactly the same place he always
blows it, or someone spaces out an arrangement detail that is extremely
close to your heart, or someone's song introduction is excruciatingly
idiotic, smile and forget about it, at least until you're off stage.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
   -__ __ /_   Jon Berger              "If you push something hard enough,
  //_// //_/   jonb@ingres.com          it will fall over."
_/ ---------                              - Fudd's First Law of Opposition
From: hagstrop@oberon.mathcs.carleton.edu (Paul Hagstrom)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Show tips & tricks
Date: 31 Aug 1992 23:24:01 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <1992Aug31.192833.27473@ncar.ucar.edu> kauff@neit.cgd.ucar.edu  
(Brian Kauffman) writes:
> This should be useful.  I'm playing with 3 other guys (mostly obscure R&B 
> covers) who are pretty good musicians, but not so good "showmen".  
> When I make modest suggestions/requests like:
> o look at the audience (most of the time)
> o talk to the audience (at least a little)
> o keep the flow by going right into the next song (most of the time)
> I often get negative responses like "we don't need arbitrary rules" or 
> "you're being anal retentive".  If nothing else, I could present a list
> written by other working musicians so I can prove these suggestions are
> not just some hangup I've got.

Mm.  It is all completely personal preference, but I just don't like watching  
bands that do a lot of "pattering" or stand around going "What should we play  
next -- no we played that already!".  When we play, usually we try to just go  
bang, bang, bang, and then leave (that is, point #3 to the detriment of point  
#2).  It has a fair amount to do with the style of music -- with us, usually  
the only audience interaction is to call them something obscene and if we do  
"look at the audience", its mainly to look pissed off at them, but still..  
although that might be an extreme, any "patter talent" that some musicians may  
have is quite often lost or considered annoying because the people listening  
(unless they're actually close friends or something) are there to hear the  
MUSIC..

Foetus has a show that more bands should strive for.  Act as though you are  
unequivocally far superior to everyone present--be a complete ass; you are,  
after all, the show--who likes to watch boring people stand in one place and  
stare at their instruments, even if the music IS really good?

Now, THAT's an opinion, so feel free to disagree.
--
schmotsignature.
Paul Hagstrom
(hagstrop@carleton.edu)
From: mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Stands needed
Date: 2 Sep 1992 23:45:25 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdacs.ucsd.edu

I've got the top part and 'u' part of a git stand.  Anybody got just the
final part (tripod part) they wanna part with?  I'd hate to just toss
them, even though a stand is only about $15 new.

Also, I've got the base part of a mic stand.  Anybody have just the
tube part?  Same issue, I just don't want to toss a perfectly good base,
since I'm sure someone out there has everything but the base (maybe even mine!)

Michael Breen
mbreen@ucsd.edu
(619) 497-0362
From: treadway@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Karma Farmers Shows
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:48:58 EDT

The following is a list of dates the Karma Farmers have already arranged.  
They would like to add some more shows if possible.  If any of you have any
openings/suggestions let me know.  They would like to limit their weekday 
shows to within 4 hours of Columbus, OH. 

Sat. Sept. 5  Youngstown, OH at Cedars. The Farmers are looking for someone to
play with at this show - maybe a band from Pittsburgh, Ann Arbor or Detroit.

Fri. Sept. 11  Louisville at Tewligan's.
Sat. Sept. 12  Cincinnati at Kilgore's.

Sept. 17-19  Not available to tour/play.

Sat. Sept. 26  Charlotte, NC. 

Sat. Oct. 31  East Lansing, MI.

The Karma Farmers:  Alternative pop.  REM/Smiths/U2 influenced.  4 clean 
cut guys on stage with a vocalist you can hear and understand!  They have 
performed in many of the major cities in the Eastern Midwest, playing with 
such bands as Head Candy, Too Much Joy, the Violent Femmes, the Hannibals, 
the Toll, Steve Wynn and Big Car.  Their EP "Slow" is available on Pencil 
Boy Records.  They would like $100/show, but are flexible.  You can reach 
them directly at 1-800-852-FARM. 

                                                        * ALTERNATIVE *
Have fun, Joel Treadway and Todd Sines                  M  /\   |\  /|M
Alternative Media Alternative Music                     U /__\  | \/ |E
treadway@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu                      S/ /\ \ |\  /|D
tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu                        I /__\  | \/ |I
                                                        C/    \ |    |A
                                                        * ALTERNATIVE *
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: Your Name Here <NetID@cornell.edu>
Subject: Looking for Musicains
X-Xxdate: Thu, 27 Aug 92 09: 52:09 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: wls1@cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:44:47 GMT

Howdy, I'm a drummer in Ithaca NY (I do  get  down to NYC)  whose looking
for serious, competent musicans to play rock, reagge, blues, world beat
etc.  I've been playing drums for 17 years and like music which has space
for improvisation (the whip cream of music  :-) ).  Get in touch if it
sounds like we have  mutual interests.  

ws3x@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: timk@meaddata.com (Tim Klein)
Subject: Re: Rehearsal Space?
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:23:35 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.204911.15778@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, gse9k@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Scott Evans) writes:
|> Ah, as the school year starts, I go in search of rehearsal space for
|> our band.  We're loud.  I'm wondering if anyone's got any success
|> stories on what they've done in a college area to get rehearsal space.
|> Any ideas are welcome.


A scheme I've often seen is to find one of those rent-a-storage-space
places that have popped up lately.  You may have to hunt awhile to find
one that is (1) equipped with electricity, (2) not near residences,
and (3) owned by someone willing to let you play there.

Condition #3 is most likely to be met if you promise not to drink or drug
or litter on the premises.

Condition #2 is necessary because otherwise the locals WILL complain,
causing condition #3 not to be met.  And you have to keep the door open
when you're practicing, because otherwise the reverb will kill ya.
It's going to be pretty bad anyway, so you might consider putting some
old carpeting up on the walls.

If you have a trustworthy lock, you can even leave the drums set up
inside your little home-away-from-home.

Have fun!


===========================================================================
Timothy Klein                 I wish I had a kryptonite cross.  Then I
timk@meaddata.com             could keep both Dracula AND Superman away.
...!uunet!meaddata!timk                               -- Jack Handey
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: richards@mcnc.org (Bill Richards)
Subject: Digitech GFX-1 foot controller info needed...
Organization: MCNC Center for Microelectronics, RTP, NC
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:06:59 GMT

I recently came into possesion of a Digitech GFX-1 foot controller. Looks like
it was made for the GSP21 or TwinTube processors. I have NO info on this thing.
I would like service info (like schematics) to understand what it does. I want
to interface it to some other stuff, if I can. I'd love to have that little
blue flourescent display right under my little piggies while playing... ALSO
I put out a call a while back for anyone wanting to dump a Moog Taurus II. I'm
still looking. They're harder to come by than I thought. Thanks...

-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bill Richards MTS					Phone: (919) 248-1452
Microelectronics Center of North Carolina		Fax:   (919) 248-1455
PO Box 12889
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead)
Subject: Re: Insurance for Working Musicians?
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:43:38 GMT

In article <4030057@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> joncon@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Jon Connolly) writes:

>I'm wondering what kind of insurance there is available to me and
>how much it is ( ball park figures ).  And if anybody is insured 
>this way if they have any tips, experiences, warnings, etc. to share.

   Ask your agent about an Inland Marine policy. (Ask him/her about the
history of the name too.:) It should cover your personal gear while it's
being used outside of your home. Theft, fire, all that stuff, I'm
pretty sure.
From: gse9k@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Scott Evans)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Rehearsal Space?
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:49:11 GMT
Reply-To: thrash@virginia.edu (Scott Evans)
Organization: or lack thereof

Ah, as the school year starts, I go in search of rehearsal space for
our band.  We're loud.  I'm wondering if anyone's got any success
stories on what they've done in a college area to get rehearsal space.
Any ideas are welcome.

scott
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: bussey@meaddata.com (Greg Bussey)
Subject: WANTED: Quadraverb
Followup-To: WANTED: Quadraverb
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 12:10:09 GMT


>Date Entered: 08-31-92 03:17
>>Trying to put a good PA together for my band - will pay $275 for
>>a Quadraverb or $295 for Quadraverb+ in excellent condition, w/manual.
>>Also will pick up shipping (which should be about $5-6 UPS). Quick
>>response needed!
>
>What is the difference between the Quadraverb and the Quadraverb+ ?
>Thanks.
> 
>lawrence.lougheed@rose.com


Apparently, the difference is $20.


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Greg Bussey                                       bussey@meaddata.com
  If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice  (rush) 
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From: gt1827a@prism.gatech.EDU (david daniell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Insurance for Working Musicians?
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:17:01 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <4030057@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> joncon@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Jon Connolly) writes:

>A while back, I remember reading something about insurance for musicians.
>I'm not sure if it he/she was talking about renter's insurance or
>not.

>I am in need of getting some insurance on my equipment. . .
>                       . . .  Since I do make money with my stuff
>I'm wondering what kind of insurance there is available to me and
>how much it is ( ball park figures ).  And if anybody is insured 
>this way if they have any tips, experiences, warnings, etc. to share.

 
I am not to sure (I luckily haven't had a need to make use of insurance
on my equipment), but I believe that most items like this can be covered
as part of homeowner's insurance, at least under some policies.

I would be interested in knowing the truth myself, though.



-- 
David Daniell
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp:	  ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt1827a
Internet: gt1827a@prism.gatech.edu
From: nunis@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Simon NUNIS)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 00:09:28 GMT
Subject: Yamaha Rack Mounts...advice needed
Organization: HP Singapore Notes-Server
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers

Hi everyone...

I am looking out to buy a rack mount sound unit to give me more polyphony and
also to get the sounds my U20 doesn't have.

This time round, I am looking at Yamaha units (the FM ones).  I would like
some advice as to which unit to get for maximum polyphony, sound, and savings.

Well, I definitely would not  need a sampler as I will probably not have the
time to learn sampling and all that jazz.  What I would want is something
with great sounds, or sounds that I can make great...yes...and something
with multitimbral sounds (like the U20).  Drums are not needed here as
the U20 already has pretty good drums.  Something capable of good e.piano
sounds would be GREAT...also good guitar sounds would be perfect.  

So please fire away with your advice and recommendations to:

nunis@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com


thanks folks!

simon ;)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers