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From: ccziec@vax.nott.ac.uk (Stuart Pearce's left foot)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Alex "shit-4-brains" Ferguson
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:08:03 GMT
Reply-To: ccziec@vax.nott.ac.uk (Stuart Pearce's left foot)
Organization: University of Nottingham, UK

In article <1992Nov5.221850.10004@news.nd.edu>, ulick@bernini.helios.nd.edu (Ulick Stafford) writes:
>Warning.  Contains mindless tribalism from a Liverpool fan :-)
>
>While not happy with BELOVED's performance at Anfield, it does cheer me up
>that United fans are as happy as we are about managerial performance.  Was
>it 67 or 68?  Anyone know the words of West Ham's 'tribute' to the Busby Babes,
>about the slippery runway to the tune of 'Blowing Bubbles'?
>

Come on Ulick, you as a scouse lover should know it was Liverpools 'marvelous'
fans who started the 'whose that dying on the runway' song, and only finally
stopped it when they killed their own at Hillsboro'. They sung it often
enough at Old Trafford & banners showing Munich 59 were regularly on display
at other matches the red scouse played. It's taken them nearly 30 years to
stop signing it and then they winge (suprise suprise) about Man Utd fans
taunting them with 'wheres your famous Munich song?'

The main reason we all dance with joy at every Liverpool defeat, sending
off, penalty against, etc etc is because they are arrogant bastards who
think they should win everything, and have everything their own way, and
the fact that the press worship them so much over here. Well this season
(and last FA Cup apart) we're all having a few more dances of joy than
normal, long may the animal Souness continue, and long may the slump
continue.

Cheers - Ian

PS if any of this offends you then I'm sorry, but I dont like Liverpool

     /~~^~~\      Nottingham Forest supporter through all times
   /~~\   /~~\
 /~~\       /~~\  You guys are so unhip its a wonder your bums don't fall
 (             )  off - Zaphod Beeblebrox (Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy)
  (____/ \____)   
       | |        Forest mailing list:  nffc-request@uk.ac.nott.ccc.vme
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 /----\___/----\  email: Ian_Copping@uk.ac.nottingham.ccc.vme
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   F O R E S T    You never close your eyes any more....
 
>
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 
>+ 'There was a  master come unto the earth, + Ulick Stafford, PP-ASEL       +
>+    born in the holy land of Indiana,      + Dept of Chemical Engineering, +
>+ in the mystical hills east of Fort Wayne'.+ Notre Dame, IN 46556          +
>+      Liverpool ... never walk alone!      +    ulick@bach.helios.nd.edu   +
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From: paull@plasma.co.uk (Paul Lee)
Subject: Re: Owls
Reply-To: paull@plasma.co.uk
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:41:39 GMT

Yes it is a bit sad. I actually saw the TV footage of the David Hirst incident. It
really was ridiculous. And the real bad thing is that Sheffield Wednesday can`t even
show the film to UEFA and say "Hey look at this?". That for me stinks.

Having said that we scored two goals, but as usual our defence kept retreating and
allowed two German goals. Just see if you can spot a challenge in either of them,
although Viv Anderson was unlucky when the ball bounced off his heel, and put the
German through.

**BUT** the atmosphere at Hillsborough was electric, and for me that is a night
I shall not forget in a long, long time. I can hardly talk!!!

Hopefully we'll bounce back with a win against (sorry I forget their name) on
Sunday. We're still in the League Cup, and are only ten points off the league
leader's. I am quite sure we'll finish in the top three again. 

Up the Owls - Just watch us go.......

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		Cheers,
			Paul Lee (Hoppy)


			Meiko Scientific Ltd.

			Email: paull@meiko.com

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From: bocmunro@bnr.co.uk (Bruce Munro)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Spurs News - 9th Nov 1992
Summary: Spurs march on!
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:07:32 GMT
Reply-To: B.Munro@bnr.co.uk
Organization: BNR Europe, New Southgate, London.
NNTP-Posting-Host: bnsgs179.bnr.co.uk

The Spurs revival continues with the lads achieving an excellent 2-0 win
away to league leaders Blackburn Rovers. The only downside to this victory
was that it enabled the Goons to top of their league after their defeat of
Coventry. Let's hope Norwich beat Oldham tonight and replace them as
leaders.

Didn't make the game on Saturday, and missed listening on the radio due to
being stuck in a pub all afternoon. So I was reduced to upsetting the
regulars, who were engrossed in the netball international, by flicking
on the Ceefax every now and then.

Anyway, Spurs apparently deserved to win the game, playing solidly at
the back (wonders will never cease!) and attacking well later in the game.
Blackburn did most of initial attacking, but Spurs utilised David Howells,
recently returned from injury, just in front of the back four, to stifle
the attacks of Shearer. This proved effective as Shearer only had a couple
of clear chances, both of which were hit straight at Erik Thorstvedt.
Both goals came in the second half. The first twenty, minutes from the end
was from a Nayim cross to Sheringham at the far post, Sheringham heading the
ball back acroos the goal for David Howells to knock in from close range.
The second was a Sheringham penalty after Gordon Durie made a long run
into the Blackburn area and was brought down by Hendry.

This result puts Spurs into 14th place with 18 points, the same as Leeds.
Not exactly a great placing, but a distinct improvement on a month ago!

There's no game this weekend as England have the World Cup qualifier against
Turkey next week. So the next home game is against Aston Villa on the 21st.
Should be a good game as Villa are playing very well at the moment. Let's
just pray that it's not a repeat of last season's nightmare where a 2-0
Spurs lead after ten minutes turned into a 5-2 gubbing!

-- 
Bruce Munro.  <B.Munro@bnr.co.uk> || ...!mcsun!uknet!bnruk!B.Munro
BNR Europe Ltd, Oakleigh Rd South, London N11 1HB. | Note the change
Phone : +44 81 945 2174 or +44 81 945 4000 x2174   | of e-mail address.
"There are no strangers, only friends we don't recognise" - Hank Wangford
From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Just laughing at England
Date: 12 Nov 92 11:18:36 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen) writes:

>spain@galvia.enet.dec.com () writes:

>>No but the English tabloids had already decided Leeds would destroy Rangers.

>No sentient beings pays any attention to what tabloids write.

Who said English supporters were sentient beings??  :-)

Dave

-- 
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From: 002564r@ace.acadiau.ca (RICARDO FLAVIO ROMAN-CARBAJAL)
Subject: Peruvian Soccer
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:18:13 GMT

It is only one game more to end the soccer season but last
sunday "Universitario de Deportes" won  its game vs "San 
Augustin"  5-1   ......and now is the champion...
........." y dale "U"

     Equipo          Pj  PG    PE   PP  GF   CC    Dif   PTS

1  "U"               29  19     5   5   53   20   +33     43
2 Cristal            29  15     9   5   46   28   +18     39 
3 Melgar             29  13     9   7   46   28   +18     35
4 Sport Boys         29  11    12   6   47   33   +14     34 
5 Alianza Lima       29  12    10   7   33   21   +12     34
6 Cienciano          29  12     9   8   41   35    +6     33
7 U. Minas           29  12     5  12   41   44    -3     29
8 Leon               29   9    10  10   45   40    +5     28
9 UTC                29  12     5  12   38   48   -10     28
10 A. Atletico       29  10     7  12   32   47   -15     27
11 Municipal         29   7    12  10   37   38    -1     26
12 Defensor Lima     29   7    11  11   37   43    -6     25
13 S. Agustin        29   6    11  11   34   45   -11     25
14 Mannucci          29   6    12  11   24   32    -8     24
15 CNI               29   7    10  12   31   53   -22     24
16 Yurimaguas        29   1     7  21   26   55   -29      9


Thank you Alfonso Lino for sending me the information
  
                        Ricardo
                   

       

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From: franck Daphnis <fd10@cornell.edu>
Subject: Suggestion for French National Team
X-Xxdate: Tue, 10 Nov 92 11: 39:35 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: fd10@cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:34:11 GMT

These are some suggestions I have for the French squad that will play
Finland this saturday:


                           Lizzarazu
                                                                    Perez

                                                 Blanc                   
                         
Martini      Sauzee      Boli                                     
Cantona    Papin

                                                 Deschamps
                                                                    
Ginola
                             Casoni                             
(Gravelaine)

That is a 4-4-2, with two offensive mid-fields to provide good
opportunities for Canto and JPP.  I am sick and tired of Houillier and
his 5-3-2 or (5-2-3) where there is no construction in the mid-field and
the entire game depends on sporadic exploits from papin and Cantona. 
From what I have seen in the game against Austria, Sauzee is a libero who
can tackle and pass the ball cleanly.  I would put Casoni on the aisle
instead of Durand or Sassus, because with that kind of line up need,
there should be at least three tough defenders behind (Sauzee, Casoni,
Boli).  Lizzarazu is a new-comer and I think he could be the next Amoros.
In the mid-field I like Blanc because he can "see" the game much better
than such Houiller's inventions as Fournier and Gnako.  Deschamps, of
course, is indispensable for his defensive work.  Christian Perez and
David Ginola could repeat some of the nice stuff they did for Paris at
the end of last year.  I prefer Ginola to Gravelaine or even Vahirua,
because I think that if you have people with the force of penetration of
Cantona and Papin, you need two very technical mied-fielders to give them
the ball in proper conditions (that is what Milan does with its offensive
mid-fields, be they Donadoni, Gullit, Lentini, Evani, Boban or
savicevic).  Gravelaine and Vahirua seem more like forwards and they
could come in during the second half.
Of course we know this would never happen under Houiller.  In fact I bet
you everything I have that the line up will be something like:
Martini, Roche, Boli, Casoni, Sassus, Lizzarazu, Deschamps, Sauzee,
Gravelaine, Cantona and Papin, with Perez coming in for Gravelaine in th
second half.  Pretty much the same players, but a totally different
organization emphasizing defensive play.  No wonder Cantona and Papin
seem lost diring most of the games.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier)
Subject: Re: Cameroon in Italia '90
Reply-To: m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 06:19:05 GMT

In article <92317.133143SCLARKE@ESTEC.BITNET> Sean Clarke <SCLARKE@ESTEC.BITNET> writes:
>
>Cannot remember the other qualifying games, although they did not lose -
>thus making England still the only team to beat the Cameroons in the 2
>finals Cameroon have qualified for (sorry, but we need something to be
>remembered for! :-( )

Cameroon lost to the Soviet Union in the final first round match.  I
believe the score was 4-0.
>
>Overall, they were actually let down by less than adequate international
>defending, and fairly poor discipline, although they probably played
>some of the best football in the tournament. Certainly they (and other
>African teams) will not have to wait much longer for even more success.
>The England - Cameroon game was, incidently, probablt the best game in
>the whole of Italia 90.

Can disagree with any of that.  I'll remember that match for a long time.

>
>Reagrds, Sean

God bless,

-- 
 Michael Le Houllier           *  John 3:16  * Nov 12, 1991 - Dili      
 (m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu.us) *  Remember: June 4, 1989 - Beijing
 Plymouth State Women's Soccer - #2 in the nation (Div. 3)  (15-1-2)
 Great job this season girls.  Get U MASS Dartmouth back next year!!!!
From: craa26@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ( J.McAllister, Computer Centre )
Subject: Re: Rangers Match Report
Reply-To: craa26@ccsun.strath.ac.uk
Organization: Strathclyde University Computer Centre.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:06:02 GMT

In article 5767@spider.co.uk, scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson) writes:
>
>Well I can't say what songs ewes were singing as we couldn't hear you. As
>soon as the goal went it it was silence at the other end. Anyway, the abuse
>is also not welcomed by Rangers themselves who actively discourage fans from
>singing those songs. However, Rangers have no control over the individuals
>that follow them, after all, this is democracy. However, before slagging
>Rangers you should ask yourself why Celtic were flying the Polish and Italian
>flags. That is something they do have control over.

I don't actually recall ever seeing a Polish flag flying at Parkhead, but in any case 
what exactly is your problem with this?

>-- 
> Scott Jackson              e-mail scottj@spider.co.uk abuse  031-554-9424
> Spider Systems Limited     
> Edinburry                               FOUR IN A ROW
> Scotland                   


John McAllister
Computer Centre
From: jcostas@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (constantinos.n.tsioras)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: WC'94 Europe Group 5 standings
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:35:33 GMT
Organization: AT&T

Greece 0, Hungary 0

From what I've heard Greece played very well and should have won this game.
Greece hit the post twice and the Hungarian goalkeeper made many great saves.

It is a rather dissapointing result for Greece, however not all hope for
qualification is lost.

Group 5 standings
-----------------
                    P   W   D   L   F   A  Pts
 Greece             3   2   1   0   2   0   5
 Russia             2   2   0   0   3   0   4
 Hungary            3   1   1   1   4   2   3
 Iceland            4   1   0   3   2   4   2
 Luxembourg         2   0   0   2   0   5   0

Remaining matches
-----------------

Feb 17   Greece v Luxembourg,
March 31 Hungary v Greece,
April 14 Luxembourg v Russia,
April 28 Russia v Hungary,
May 20   Luxembourg v Iceland,
May 23   Russia v Greece,
June 2   Iceland v Russia,
June 16  Iceland v Hungary,
Sept 8   Hungary v Russia,
--"---   Iceland v Luxembourg,
Oct 12   Luxembourg v Greece,
Oct 27   Hungary v Luxembourg,
Nov 17   Greece v Russia
From: scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Celtic & Bulbs!
Date: 5 Nov 92 12:40:20 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, SCOTLAND.

From the Daily Record, 5/11/92:

"FOR IT'S A SECOND-HAND OLD TEAM TO PLAY FOR"

"Second-hand Celtic are set to light up their on the cheap. For the cash
strapped club want to buy the old floodlight bulbs from Hampden Park. The
light pylons are being demolished as part of the national stadium's massive
facelift. And the bulbs, which cost $150 a time when new, were also set to be
smashed until the Parkhead club asked about them. The Celts have a
multi-million pound overdraft, and face a big compensation payout to former
chief executive Terry Cassidy. And Tuesday's defeat by Borussia Dortmund
means no more money-spinning European ties this season."

It could only be Celtic!

Scott
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Euro competion results 4th Nov
Keywords: SOUNESS s***ts his pants.
Date: 5 Nov 92 11:55:24 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.


European Cup:
============

Leeds Utd....... 1 - 2  Glasgow Rangers    Great game. particulary the first 
             Agg(2 - 4)                    half.

Lech Posnan..... 0 - 3 Gothenburg
            Agg (0 - 4)

Marseilles...... 2 - 0 Dinamo Bucharest
                (2 - 0)

Austria Vienna.. 3 - 1 Bruges
                (3 - 3) Bruges win on away goals

PSV Eindhoven... 3 - 0 AEK Athens
                (3 - 1)

AC Milan........ 4 - 0 Slovan Bratislava
                (5 - 0)

Barcelona....... 2 - 3 CSKA Moscow    Shocker of the night. 
                (3 - 4)               Barcelona threw away a 2-0 lead

Porto........... 4 - 0 Sion
                (6 - 2)

Cup Winners' Cup:
===============

Liverpool......... 0 - 2 Spartak Moscow     Woeful performance from Liverpool. 
                  (2 - 6)                   Souness now has 'brown trousers' 

Sparta Prague..... 1 - 0 Werder Bremen
                  (4 - 2)

Steaua Bucharest.. 2 - 1 Aahrus
                  (4 - 4) Steaua go through on away goals

Olympiakos........ 0 - 0 Monaco
                  (1 - 0)

Athletico Madrid.. 0 - 0 Trabzonspor
                  (2 - 0)

Boavista.......... 0 - 2 Parma
                  (0 - 2)

Feyenoord......... 4 - 1 Lucerne
                  (4 - 2)

Antwerp........... 3 - 4 Admira Wein
                  (7 - 6)  After extra time. 
                           Score after 90 minutes was 2-4, tying up
                           the aggregate at 6-6 and equal away goals.

UEFA Cup:
========

Standard Liege..... 1 - 0 Heart of Midlothian    Good performance from Hearts
                   (2 - 0)                       chased the game

Sheffield Wednesday 2 - 2 Kaisrlautrn
                   (3 - 5)
 
Sigma Olomouc...... 7 - 1 Fenerbahce
                   (7 - 2)

Galatasaray........ 1 - 0 Eintracht Frankfurt      Great result for the Turkish
                   (1 - 0)                         side

Torpedo Moscow..... 3 - 2 Real Madrid
                   (5 - 7)

VAC Izzo........... 0 - 1 Benfica
                   (1 - 6)

Dynamo Kiev........ 0 - 3 Andrelecht
                   (2 - 7)

Grasshoppers....... 4 - 3 Roma
                   (4 - 6)

Juventus........... 0 - 0 Panathanaikos
                   (1 - 0)

Ajax............... 2 - 1 Vitoria Guimares
                   (5 - 1)

Paris St. Germain.. 0 - 0 Napoli
                   (2 - 0)
================================

Dave

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From: jcostas@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (constantinos.n.tsioras)
Subject: Greece-Hungary result
Keywords: World Cup '94 - Europe Group 5
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 02:51:01 GMT

Salonica, Kaftatzoglio Stadium: GREECE - HUNGARY 0-0
Attendance: 45,000

RTs  11/11 1525  GOALKEEPER PETRY SAVES HUNGARY AGAINST GREECE

    By Costas Paris
    SALONIKA, Greece, Nov 11, Reuter - Hungary clung on for a 0-0 draw against
Greece in a World Cup soccer qualifier on Wednesday after having Peter Lipcsei
sent off 17 minutes from time.
 Goalkeeper Zsolt Petry was Hungary's saviour, making a series of important
saves before and after Lipcsei's dismissal for a foul.
    The Greeks, with two wins in as many group five matches, set the pace from
the start and repeatedly came close to scoring before 45,000 fans in the
northern city of Salonika.
    An early header from midfielder Yotis Tsalouhides hit the right-hand post
and was saved on the rebound by Petry.
    In the 12th minute a fierce shot by defender Stratos Apostolakis was blocked
by Petry, who then saved headers by Tsalouhides and striker Vassilis
Dimitriades.
    The Hungarians came close to scoring only once -- in the 14th minute when
Jozsef Kiprich missed from 10 metres.
    Kiprich was hurt midway through the half and went off 10 minutes later,
leaving the team without any real pace up front.

    Teams:
    Greece - George Mirtsos, Stratos Apostolakis, Theodore Pahatourides, Stelios
Manolas, Thanasis Kolitsidakes, Yotis Tsalouhides, Tasos Mitropoulos, George
Toursounides (Costas Franzescos, 66th), Vassilis Dimitriades (George Vaitsis,
46th), Nikos Nioplias, Nikos Tsiantakis
    Hungary - Zsolt Petry, Tibor Nagy, Laszlo Disztl, Florian Urban, Emil
Lorincz, Zsolt Limberger, Jozsef Kiprich (Istvan Salloi, 32nd), Tibor Balor,
Peter Lipcsei, Ferenc Meszaros (Zsolt Paling, 78th), Kalman Kovacs
Organization: Computing Technology Services, Michigan Technological Univ.
Date: Thursday, 5 Nov 1992 20:52:01 EST
From: <CMLEE@MTUS5.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Supercopa 92

It's been a week and few days more since the last results for the
Supercopa 92 was posted in this newsgroup. I start to feel anxious,
Marcello, Luis Alberto, What happen!!!!???!??!?!?!.
From a big fan of OLIMPIA!!

Antonio.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: norr@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (neil.orr)
Subject: Rangers March On
Keywords: Hateley,McCoist
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 10:10:18 GMT


Leeds United 1 Rangers 2

Just what the doctor ordered. A magnificent effort from
Rangers and an historic evening for Scottish football.

In terms of ability to score goals this was simply men
against boys. The two Rangers goals were of the highest
order. Hateley's left-foot volley from 20 yards was the
act of a mastercraftsman at work. Someone should have 
told John Lukic to dive before the ball goes in the net.
The second and decisive goal was a classic sucker punch
in the fashion normally associated with the best of the
counterattacking continental sides. Hateley's tantalising
cross met so sweetly by Ally McCoist at the far post.

Leeds huffed and they puffed but they couldn't blow the 
Rangers defence down. Andy Goram defied them time and
time again as they desperately tried to claw their way 
back into the game. Frankly, Leeds should have exploited
the pace of Wallace against Dave "The Giraffe" McPherson
but instead stuck with the Chapman-Cantona combination
that hardly got out of Richard Gough's back pocket all
night.

Walter Smith's inspired use of Dale Gordon to snuff out
Tony Dorigo's darting runs worked very well. This was a
tactical triumph for Smith and a vindication of his big
money purchases in recent seasons. I wonder how Graeme
Souness was feeling last night.

Bring on AC Milan!

Neil Orr
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