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From: richardr@vast.unsw.edu.au (Richard Vander Reyden)
Subject: Re: A4000 available in OZ.
Organization: University of New South Wales
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:20:25 GMT

Hi All,
	Just want to clear up a few misconceptions which have been
talked about here.

1) Amitech and Sigmacom are 2 SEPARATE companies which operate out of
the same office.

2) Sigmacom is a Commodore dealer, and does not buy amiga's off amitech.

3) The A4000 is the property of Amitech and was not imported by
Sigmacom.

So if you are going to enter a discussion you should get the facts
straigh first.

richardr@vast.unsw.edu.au
From: matth@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Matthew Hannigan)
Subject: Re: unix compress -> amiga decompress?
Keywords: archive compress memory
Organization: AODC, though I don't speak for them.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 07:48:26 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.233601.3606@hades.ausonics.oz.au> andrewl@hades.ausonics.oz.au (Andrew J Lockwood) writes:
>
>If you must use compress, be sure you get a version which is compiled
>with the 16BIT define defined (a way to decide how much memory is used).

Only useful to define 16bit IF you actually have the memory, yes?
If you don't have the memory, and try to (un?)compress a file,
you could just run out of memory.

Someone please confirm or flame me.

Regards,
	-Matt
matt@aodc20.aodc.gov.au
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
From: sci227d@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au
Subject: RE: FOR SALE: A2000, Phoenix board, etc..
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:43:27 GMT


Dear amiga seller,

 The $1750 dollars for your Amiga 2000 may be a little too much !
I'll offer $1150 for the A2000 + 3meg ram + 2 hdrives + 2 fdrives + monitor

                                          name : george ganakas
                                          email: sci227d@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au


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From: geoffo@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Geoff Oakley)
Subject: Re: unix compress -> amiga decompress?
Organization: none
	<1992Nov20.074826.13932@ucc.su.OZ.AU>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 01:22:39 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.233601.3606@hades.ausonics.oz.au> andrewl@hades.ausonics.oz.au (Andrew J Lockwood) writes:
   
   If you must use compress, be sure you get a version which is compiled
   with the 16BIT define defined (a way to decide how much memory is used).

In article <1992Nov20.074826.13932@ucc.su.OZ.AU> matth@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Matthew Hannigan) writes:

   Only useful to define 16bit IF you actually have the memory, yes?
   If you don't have the memory, and try to (un?)compress a file,
   you could just run out of memory.

16 bits is only a limit on machines like the PDP-11 which you will
recall had an address-space of 64k.  It is absolutely no problem on an
Amiga.  Remember, (un)compress is a filter, it does not store the
entire file in memory.

geoff o

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Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
Subject: Re: A1200????
From: sbiddle@aviate.welly.gen.nz (Steve Biddle)
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:39:48 +1300
Organization: Steves Amiga - Wellington, New Zealand.
X-Newsreader: Ann 0.9

In article <1992Nov11.011851.16230@bohra.cpg.oz.au>,
	fisherc@bohra.cpg.oz.au (Craig Fisher) writes:
>In article <> sbiddle@aviate.welly.gen.nz (Steve Biddle) writes:
>> In article <1992Nov4.140357.164984@dstos3.dsto.gov.au>,
>>	bennett@dstos3.dsto.gov.au writes:
>>>So, what is an A1200 ?
>>
>> An AGA '020 based machine to replace the 500..
>
>No, actually the A600 is the machine which is replacing the 500.
>The A1200 is more likely to replace the A2000.

No, the 1200 is the 500 replacement. The 600 replaces nothing, just adds a
low end machine. Expect the 2000/3000 replacement to be an '030 based 4000..


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Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
From: nikola@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Nikola Vukovljak)
Subject: Re: A4000 available in OZ.
Organization: /etc/organization
Distribution: aus
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:35:38 GMT

In article <1e1jteINNejg@huon.itd.adelaide.edu.au> jpotter@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au (Jonathan Potter) writes:
>In article <1992Nov13.022034.11299@metapro.DIALix.oz.au> bernie@metapro.DIALix.oz.au (Bernd Felsche) writes:
>>You're very generous to the tax man!
>>
>>When did sales tax change to being based on the retail price
>>and not the last wholesale price?
>
>Sorry, that calculation was intended to show what it would cost an
>individual to import the computer himself. Unless you could convince
>an overseas supplier to sell it to you at wholesale price, that would


You would pay that much if the price in the US was $3800. But, that is the 
RRP. The price from all the reports I hear is between $3000 and $3200. Quite
a bit cheaper.

Nik.


>be what you'd pay.
From: mclean@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Stewart McLean)
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
Subject: A4000 at show???
Date: 16 Nov 1992 00:16:25 GMT
Organization: Deakin University, Geelong, Australia
Distribution: aus
NNTP-Posting-Host: aragorn.cm.deakin.oz.au


In article <thecure.721639859@munagin> matthew aardvarkious writes:
> Am I the first ?
> 
> Well, it was smallish, not as big as some shows have been.
> 
> There were plenty of reps around, but nothing amazingly wonderful.
> 
> No, there was no 4000, maxwells had a 3000T displayed. Lotsa
> nice demos running, and not that many IBM clones actually. Tonnes
> of software, etc, and a few user groups. 

Well I went up on Friday for the sole reason of getting a first hand look
at the A4000. Where was it, well according to Maxwells, it was on its way
(this was at about 1pm). Apparantly, the 4000 was supposed to be there in the
morning, but, again according to Maxwells, the courier had LOST IT. That's
right, I was told that the courier has lost it. If I was lucky, it would 
arrive Friday night, definitely Saturday. Well to anyone who went to the
show on Sat or Sun, was it there?

I can tell you all one thing, the salesman I spoke to was as keen as ever
to take a deposit on the 4000. 

"So Sir, would you like to leave a deposit now". Politely, I said, "I'd rather
wait until I see the machine first". Of course I has no intention to leave a
deposit there and then. Anyway, I didn't have enough money on me, nor did I
want to leave a deposit with Maxwells. Anyway, I played along just to get
as much as I could out of this salesman.

Me: "So, how much for the 4000?"
Salesman: "$4795 Sir"
Me: "Is that with Commodore's 12 month warrantee?"
Salesman: "Yes Sir"
Me: "So you're getting the machines through Commodore, then?"
Salesman: "Yes Sir"
Me: "So when will the machines be available?"
Salesman: "In the last week of December"

So everyone, according to this salesman, the you can have the machine for $4795
if you leave a deposit NOW. Otherwise, as he later told me, the machine will
sell for $5500. This price of $4795 is a special introductory price, which 
the salesman told me wont last for long.


All in all, I was very disappointed with Maxwells. They promised the A4000 but
never delivered.

Stewart (mclean@cm.deakin.oz.au)
From: s892031@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Pumpkin Power)
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
Subject: Re: A4000 at show???
Date: 18 Nov 1992 00:50:13 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
Distribution: aus
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au

mclean@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Stewart McLean) writes:
>Well I went up on Friday for the sole reason of getting a first hand look
>at the A4000. Where was it, well according to Maxwells, it was on its way
>(this was at about 1pm). Apparantly, the 4000 was supposed to be there in the
>morning, but, again according to Maxwells, the courier had LOST IT. That's
>right, I was told that the courier has lost it. If I was lucky, it would 
>arrive Friday night, definitely Saturday. Well to anyone who went to the
>show on Sat or Sun, was it there?

Well at 8pm on Friday the excuse was "It was at a show in Adelaide, and
somebody broke it, we're trying to get another one, definitely be here
Saturday!".  Yeah, right, somebody broke it.

Peter Barton : s892031@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
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From: rjpogain@socs.uts.edu.au (r j pogainis)
Subject: Re: AGA chipset
Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
Date: 23 Nov 92 07:46:08 GMT

barham@qut.edu.au writes:


>>   +-----------------------------------------+   //
>>   | Real Life  |  Robert Pogainis           | \X/Amiga - The Ultimate!
>>   | Email      |  rjpogain@socs.uts.edu.au  |
>>   +------------+----------------------------+ Free Latvia! Russian
>> Army out!!

>When I first read this I thought "Hmmm, 'Army out!!' must be some
>new phrase, kinda like 'Pig out'".  Took me a while to figure it
>had wrapped around from the previous line and so really reads "Free
>Latvia! Russian Army out!!".  That has a bit more punch %^)

Yep, that's what it is supposed to say, and I mean it sincerely!
I've shortened the width of my sig, so this won't come back and haunt you again in the future!

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Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
From: bernie@metapro.DIALix.oz.au (Bernd Felsche)
Subject: Re: unix compress -> amiga decompress?
Keywords: archive
Organization: MetaPro Systems, Perth, Western Australia
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 01:34:29 GMT

In <rjpogain.722087899@syzygy> rjpogain@socs.uts.edu.au (r j pogainis) writes:

>Does anyone know of an Amiga archiver that will decompress 
>the standard Unix compress command?  

What about compress? It's on Fish disks and I believe that
the mainstream version of compress have all the necessaries
to be compiled on an Amiga.

>What I am trying to do is reduce the time it takes to download 
>stuff from uni through my modem.  Maybe someone knows a better 
>archiver for this purpose?

Compress is _not_ an archiver. You may be able to get lharc for UNIX.
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From: andrew@teslab.lab.oz.au (Andrew Phillips)
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
Subject: Re: unix compress -> amiga decompress?
Date: 23 Nov 92 03:14:34 GMT
Organization: Technology Services, Chief Secretary's Dept, Sydney

rjpogain@socs.uts.edu.au (r j pogainis) writes:
: Does anyone know of an Amiga archiver that will decompress the standard
: Unix compress command?  

compress -d is the only way.  If you have a C compiler I believe the
source was on a very early Fish disk (and perhaps later ones also).

: What I am trying to do is reduce the time it takes to download stuff
: from uni through my modem.  Maybe someone knows a better archiver for
: this purpose?

I have used zoo, zip and lharc.  All work well.  Mail me if you want
the Amiga binaries or UNIX sources.
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Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
From: birjt@cc.newcastle.edu.au
Subject: Is C=oz a listed co.
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:29:15 GMT



Does anyone here know if CBM Aust. is a listed company, as in stock exchange.
If it is what is it's name as I can't find it.


Ta,

Russell
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
From: matth@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Matthew Hannigan)
Subject: Re: unix compress -> amiga decompress?
Organization: AODC, though I don't speak for them.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 06:54:46 GMT

In article <GEOFFO.92Nov23112239@crimson.spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au> geoffo@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Geoff Oakley) writes:
>
>In article <1992Nov20.074826.13932@ucc.su.OZ.AU> matth@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Matthew Hannigan) writes:
>
>   Only useful to define 16bit IF you actually have the memory, yes?
>   If you don't have the memory, and try to (un?)compress a file,
>   you could just run out of memory.
>
>16 bits is only a limit on machines like the PDP-11 which you will
>recall had an address-space of 64k.  It is absolutely no problem on an
>Amiga.  Remember, (un)compress is a filter, it does not store the
>entire file in memory.

I just thought it needed the memory proportional somehow to
the BITS define (p'raps for a (de)coding table; I knew it wasn't
required for the file)

If not, why did compress when I got it for my amiga way back
only come compiled with BITS =13?  (It seems a big cost in
incompatibility with compress on unix, for the small benefit
of not taking up much memory)

Anyway, enough speculation on my part; I must go and see the source!

Regards,
	-Matt
matt@aodc20.aodc.gov.au
From: axg708@cscgpo.anu.edu.au (Ashraf Ghebranious)
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
Subject: Computer Games for sale (canberra)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 04:18:13 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.56.5.23

Hello people,

	A few months ago, I abandoned the Amiga for an IBM. I sold the Amiga 
but still have approx. 50 boxed titles for sale.

	These include
                       Title             Retail             My Price
		Dungeon Master	          $70                $35       
		Rise of the Dragon        $90                $49
		Loom                      $70                $35
		Wings                     $60                $30
		TV Sports Football        $65                $29
		TV Sports Basketball      $60                $35
		Leisure Suit Larry II     $50                $20
                Kings Bounty              $60                $35
                Falcon Mission disk 1     $60                $30
		Lords of the Rising Sun   $80                $49
                RailRoad Tycoon           $80                $49
                Budokan                   $50                $30
                SimAnt                    $80                $45
                Pro Tennis Tour 1         $50                $30  
                
	ALL include original Disks
	ALL are in original Boxes
	ALL have original Documentation

Like I said this is only SOME of what I have at home. These prices are dirt 
cheap and NON negiotiable. If you no wanna buy, then dont. Interstate buyers 
please note that these prices do not include shipping and handling. First in 
first serve. E-MAIL ONLY!!!!!!!!
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
From: nudd@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Nai Ying Kwok)
Subject: Canon BJ-10 Driver Help!!
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 04:51:34 GMT

Hi,

I got the canon BJ-10e Printer driver and installed it and I am now
running it off my copy of excellence. Now, while it prints text
brilliantly, I have been unable to get it to do a print of the wysiwyg
screen. (Using the graphic print capability on excellence). So, is there
a problem with getting it to print graphics or am I doing something
wrong either with the env: or the dipswitches?

Nudd
From: barham@qut.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
Subject: Re: AGA chipset
Date: 23 Nov 92 10:30:54 EST
Organization: Queensland University of Technology

rjpogain@socs.uts.edu.au (r j pogainis) writes:
> Will there eventually be a board of some sort that will give my
> Amiga2000 the full AGA chipset?

I believe the correct response to this is "Not from Commodore there
wont be".  It MAY be possibile to produce some sort of AGA board for
lesser machines, but according to Commodore engineers it would be very
difficult and very messy.  Some brave third party people may attempt.
Probably it wouldn't provide you with all the features of AGA (I'm no
hardware person, so I can't give any specifics).

> Is it available in Aus yet?

Nope - it aint available ANYWHERE %^)

> If not, how long till it will be?  Will it be years?

Probably.  I'm almost tempted to sell my A2000HD now before the AGA
machines get generally known about, and then get a crappy little
A1200 when they come out.  I got the A2000 to replace my A1000 for
expandabilty, which gets a LITTLE restricted in the A1200, but I
figure the only expansion I'm likely to need on my budget for a while
is memory and a hard-drive.  6meg of 32 bit memory and an internal
2.5inch harddrive of some indeterminate size should be enough for me
for now.  Then I will have AGA and a little extra burst of speed
(should be nice with that extra fast mem).

>   +-----------------------------------------+   //
>   | Real Life  |  Robert Pogainis           | \X/Amiga - The Ultimate!
>   | Email      |  rjpogain@socs.uts.edu.au  |
>   +------------+----------------------------+ Free Latvia! Russian
> Army out!!

When I first read this I thought "Hmmm, 'Army out!!' must be some
new phrase, kinda like 'Pig out'".  Took me a while to figure it
had wrapped around from the previous line and so really reads "Free
Latvia! Russian Army out!!".  That has a bit more punch %^)

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Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: [*] Review Home Computer Show. (Melb, Australia)
From: fulton@latcs2.lat.oz.au (John R Fulton)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 02:28:10 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

In article <1e5madINNfqf@escargot.xx.rmit.OZ.AU> s924666@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Voyager 666) writes:
>thecure@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (matthew aardvarkious) writes:
>
>>Am I the first ?
>
>Yep. I went on Friday and was going to put up a review but
>minyos blew up ... again.
>
>>Well, it was smallish, not as big as some shows have been.
>
>It was very smallish. The map in the Green Guide was a bit of a deception.
>I planned with some friends that it would take some 1.5 hours to go through
>the whole show, it took 40 mins, and seemed as though there were a few things
>missing. The stands were a bit small, even the larger areas were cramped
>and not because of the excess amount of people.
>
>>There were plenty of reps around, but nothing amazingly wonderful.
>
>That's for sure. I mean, how many of them knew what they were on about?
>You could just see their looks, greedy for sales, "I wonder how much
>commission I would get" type of look. Service was, umm, err, well ...
>tucking ferrible.
>
>>No, there was no 4000, maxwells had a 3000T displayed. Lotsa
>>nice demos running, and not that many IBM clones actually. Tonnes
>>of software, etc, and a few user groups. 

	They did have an A3400 [what the hell is one?], which was a beta 
machine running wb3.0 [this was on saturday], It had ham8 and 256 colour stuff, I didn't get the chance to see what was the CPU, cause another guy was using it to check out the colours and stuff.
	From what the graphics of the Falcon 030 looked like [some where between lo-res and hi res on the amiga] I don't think it will be that much of a worry to amiga people.


		John
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
From: andrewl@hades.ausonics.oz.au (Andrew J Lockwood)
Subject: gcc-2.2.2
Keywords: gcc
Organization: Ausonics Pty Ltd 61-2-428-6444
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 01:24:16 GMT

I'm using gcc-2.2.2 on my Amiga with WB1.3 (to try to learn C++).

Q/ What version of WB are the include files set up for?

Q/ What trouble will I have by using WB1.3?

Q/ Is there an easy way to put CHIP structures into CHIP RAM
	(like the Lattice 5.04 -ad option)?

It's easy to do non-Amiga stuff with gcc-2.2.2 but I'm having trouble
with the file requestor from the C-Manual stuff which I have not tracked
down yet.

Can anyone suggest a better newsgroup to ask these questions (I have write
but not read access to the comp.sys.amiga groups but don't actually have
an update list of the groups)?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Andrew Lockwood
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From: Kevin.Tankard@f550.n635.z3.fidonet.org (Kevin Tankard)
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
Subject: Melb Pc Show
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 11:50:02

Hi Everyone,
            Who went to the PC Show at the Exhibition buildings in Melbourne
this weekend ?? What was your opinion ??

I personally was pretty dissappointed. No A4000, no technical people for
advice, and closing at 7.00 pm (!!!) on Saturday night.

As a marketing exercise it was OK, I suppose !! I thought that the computer
Swap Meet at Malvern each month was better - at leats there is no pretence
there !!

Kevin







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From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
Subject: Re: unix compress -> amiga decompress?
Date: 23 Nov 92 08:25:42 PST
Organization: TAP

Quoted from <1992Nov20.074826.13932@ucc.su.OZ.AU> by matth@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Matthew Hannigan):

> Only useful to define 16bit IF you actually have the memory, yes?

> Someone please confirm or flame me.

    You might run out of memory, but it isn't all that much that's
    required. On the Amiga, you're better off with the 16bit version.

> 	-Matt
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From: millar_gf@med.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
Subject: RE: Connecting IDE Harddisk to Amiga 500
Date: 24 Nov 1992 02:10:48 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ
Reply-To: millar_gf@med.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: blade.wcc.govt.nz

In article <PDC.14.722494212@basil.eng.monash.edu.au>, PDC@basil.eng.monash.edu.au (Paul Cuthbertson) writes:>
>WOOPS!  I goofed...  That Should Read
>
>        Connecting MFM/RLL Harddisk to Amiga 500.
>                   ^^^^^^^
I think that I may have goofed also... I have XT ST-506 type drives.
:-( 
Anyway if you are still interested I will dig out the address for you.
>
Cheers.... Gordon.

Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga
From: rjpogain@socs.uts.edu.au (r j pogainis)
Subject: unix compress -> amiga decompress?
Keywords: archive
Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
Date: 18 Nov 92 11:58:19 GMT

Does anyone know of an Amiga archiver that will decompress the standard Unix compress command?  
What I am trying to do is reduce the time it takes to download stuff from uni through my modem.  Maybe someone knows a better archiver for this purpose?

Rob.
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