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From: ap.6372@cupid.sai.com (Anonymous)
Subject: [anonymous] Bad Trips and their affect on normal
Originator: lamontg@hardy.u.washington.edu
Keywords: anonymous
Reply-To: ap.6372@cupid.sai.com
Organization: Somewhere
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:53:26 GMT



I am posting this anonymously because my employer (though they claim to be
liberally minded) would hardly approve:


In May of 1991, and again in June, 1991, I had bad trips.  These were my
last and second to last experiments with LSD.  Since then, I've noticed
that occasionally I see little visual disturbances (dark items leave
"light" remnants for a few seconds), and that late at night I see little
pink dots sometimes on walls, etc.

I am near-sighted, and attribute a general (fades in and out throughout the
day) feeling of "being out of touch sometimes and unable to concentrate" to
both this (I tend to ignore rather than squint (hurts my head)), and maybe
the fact that I did acid.  I'd say I've done it about 15 times (don't
remember).

I have heard that doing acid can bring on hidden symptoms of schizophrenia.
 While I have really weird thoughts at night (like conversations I have
(simulated) with myself, but not really -- nothing I actually "hear," but
it's weird), and sometimes I see little visual disturbances for an instant
(I notice the little floaters in my eyes more and see a tiny dot of blue
every once in a while), I don't think I'm going crazy or anything.

I'm level-headed, and all.  Guess I'm just a little worried.

My first bad trip was pretty terrible.

My second, terribly unreal, and something that haunts me to this day.


I can't handle even smoking pot really, anymore. :(


It's really too bad.  All I'm asking is -- out of all of you who have had
"bad trips," does it get better?  I mean, will I stop (not having
flashbacks) remembering some of the images and being scared by them?  I'm
really sorry I ever tried acid now -- though at the time, I thought I was
learning a lot about myself and perceptions of things.

So, hey -- we're all human.  I tried it, used it a bit, and that's over... 
So if someone from my work sees this and decides to do something uncool
(despite the claim that this is anonymous), then so be it, there's nothing
I can do.


To those out there who have had bad trips, am I just being paranoid, or
does it really affect your life?  I guess I "unlearned" some visual things
that I used to ignore...?  Whatever it is, I hope it goes away...


Anonymous


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From: dbt@cellar.org (Marquis de Freud)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Butyrophenones and Phenothiazines
Date: 12 Nov 92 06:18:06 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

Re: Eric Snyder's post about the difference between the two classes of drugs.

Are there any *clinical* differences between Haldol-class (butyrophenone) 
drugs and Thorazine-class (phenothiazine) drugs? I have only heard, and 
mainly anecdotally from physicians I have worked with, that Haldol is "less 
toxic" and has fewer of certain side-effects. 

I also have heard, anecdotally, that Haldol has either less OR more of a 
propensity to bring on Parkinson-like symptoms!

Haldol seems much more gram-potent than any of the phenothiazines. Since I am 
a neurology tech, and NOT a pharmacologically-trained psychiatric tech, I 
have very little contact with such patientes except when they develop 
seizures, or can't sleep at night.

        MdF. You've Read The Post -- Now Laugh At The Clever Pseudonym!

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From: news@fcom.cc.utah.edu
Subject: vitamin C
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{from: melbarbari@vx9000.weber.edu (Mansour Elbarbari)
Organization: Weber State University - CompSci
Date:  5 Nov 1992 11:38 MST  

This article was probably generated by a buggy news reader.
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From: malcolm@cltr.uq.oz.au (Malcolm Gillies)
Subject: Re: [anonymous] nitrous oxide
Organization: Centre for Language Teaching and Research, Uni of Queensland, AUSTRALIA.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:57:13 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.152500.10206@u.washington.edu> ap.6372@cupid.sai.com writes:
>
>In article <1992Nov03.211814.5096@ux1.cts.eiu.edu>, cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu 
>(Howard Black) writes:
>> In article <1992Nov3.172421.9687@uvm.edu> fduross@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP 
>(frank d.....) writes
>>
>>>One of my biggest pet peeves is when I see people, usually at concerts, 
>>>wearing
>>>a 'save the environment' shirt, and holding a big fat nitrous balloon.
>>>Nitrous oxide is responsible for about 6% of global warming.  The global
>>
>>     Where did you get this incredible (literally) gem of factoid data?
>>
>>>warming from each molecule of nitrous oxide is about 230 times that of a 
>CO2
>>>molecule.
>>
>>     Ditto.
>
>I don't have a reference for this, but I have certainly read it
>(or similar figures) in a textbook of atmospheric chemistry I was
>reading for an essay I was writing on the topic earlier this year.
>
>The suggestion that breathing nitrous from a balloon could have
>any effect whatsoever on global climate is of course ridiculous.
>
>The fact remains however that atmospheric nitrous oxide, both of 
>bacterial origin and as a result of human activity (biomass burning, 
>from memory, in particular) is one of the fastest increasing 
>greenhouse gasses and is significant.

Well, A few months ago I sat down and did some back of the envelope
calculations and worked out the one nitrous bulb contributes to global
warming about as much as burning one litre of petrol in your car. As an
avid cyclist, that's pretty bad IMHO. So I reckon the solution is recycling
- anybody tried this? Can you exhale back into the balloon? Obviously it
won't be 100% efficient (apart from anything else, it can take quite a
while for all the N2O to diffuse back out of your body again), but it seems
to be you ought to be be able to at least "double your pleasure, double
your fun".

>Jeremy
>(jeremy@rsc3.anu.edu.au - forced to post anonymously because
>of NASA pressure on AARNET to censor this newsgroup thus
>causing local posts to remain local)

Actually, I don't think that it's pressure on AARNet that's causing the
censorship; it's more the paranoid desire for all the various
net.authorities to cover their arses, and also not to be seen as promoting
such undergraduate frivolities ;-)

Malcolm
(P.S. lamont, if you see this, could you mail me? I'm not sure if my posts
are making it out of the country)
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From: donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Have a marijuana...
Organization: none
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:16:02 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.002135.20667@rtfm.mlb.fl.us> john@rtfm.mlb.fl.us (John Blasik) writes:
>mdavie@elaine.ee.und.ac.za (MARK DAVIES : THIRD) writes:
>>I have an album from 1968 on tape (name of album is"Have a marijuana!"), 
>>the songs are all about smoking pot, dropping acid, STP, amphetamines, etc
>>
>>Does anyone out there know what group released this album? It is live.
>>
>>Mark
>
>Standing on the corner
>Just me and Yoko Ono
>We was waiting for Jerry to land
>Up come a man with a guitar in his hand
>Singing, "Have a marijuana if you can"
>His name was David Peel
>And we found that he was real
>He sang "The pope smokes dope everyday."
>Up come a policeman shoved us up the street
>Singing, "Power to the people today!"
>
>			John Lennon, "New York City"
>
>The LP you are refering to is
>"Have a Marijuana, Recorded live the streets of New York"
>by David Peel & the Lower East Side.
>
>They came out with another LP, I think it was called something like
>"The Pope smokes dope, Recorded lies on the streets of the vatican"
>which had that great ballad "I'm proud to be a New York City hippie"
>sung to the tune of "Okie from Mastokee" (sic?)
>
>This was all happinin' c. 1970-72, not 1968 b.t.w.
>
>OBsynchronicity: CNN showing a Clinton bash with some cover
>of "Power to the People!" blaring over the P.A. system as I
>am about to .sign this post. YOW!
>
>
>-- john
>"Don't think they didn't know about Hitler" -- joko
>

Ads for bopth of these, and at least one more, used to be all over
High times, and I bet he still sells them.
If you can find him...

					--Judex--
From: qually@utopia.hacktic.nl (Qualtinger)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: N2O
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 15:53:40 GMT
Organization: U.T.O.P.I.A.

Hi,
I've discovered the N2O cartridges in Holland,
and I want to use them, I understand you have to use a balloon,
but how do you get the N2O from the cartridge into the balloon?
Just smash the top or something and then pull the balloon over?
Is it dangerous to inhale N2O?
--
Qualtinger

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From: Eric Sterling <esterling@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: 12 Nov 92 06:15 PST
Subject: Intl Drug Policy Conf - DC
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1301300198:000:713
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!esterling    Nov 12 06:15:00 1992



Greetings:

Today is the first of three days of the International Conference for
Drug Policy Reform being sponsored, once again, by the Drug Policy
Foundation in Washington, D.C.  The conference is being held at the
Loew's L'Enfant Plaza Hotel in Washington, D.C.  Tel. 202-484-1000.

To reach any of your favorite drug policy reformers from around the
world, call and leave a message.

At 2:15 p.m. EST, the National Drug Strategy Network will be holding 
a demonstration on the use of PeaceNet and email for organizing for
drug policy reform.

Eric Sterling
Coordinator
National Drug Strategy Network
2000 L Street N.W.
Suite 702
Washington, D.C. 20036
Tel. 202-835-9075
Fax  202-223-1288
email  igc:esterling

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From: cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black)
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:25:53 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

In article <rda767f.721066604@nella8.cc.monash.edu.au> rda767f@nella8.cc.monash.edu.au (Mark Leighton) plays chemist: 
>
>I hate to say this but you have your facts mixed up!!
>Those little cannisters contain Nitrogen Dioxide which is NO2. Nitrous
>Oxide is NO and is known as laughing gas, hence the high that is achieved.
>There is also Dinitrogen oxide N2O which is obtained when heating NO.
>Be warned!! N2O is highly poisonous ie LETHAL.

    Amazing.  Every single assertion above is dead wrong.  Where *do* you
get this kind of misinformation - just make it up???

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     Department of Chemistry                  Eastern Illinois Univ. 
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From: ap.6396@cupid.sai.com (Anonymous)
Subject: [anonymous] DMT (what plants?)
Originator: lamontg@hardy.u.washington.edu
Keywords: anonymous
Reply-To: ap.6396@cupid.sai.com
Organization: Somewhere
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 06:43:23 GMT


The subject of DMT came up, and in a previous post it was mentioned that
it was available in some plants and could be extracted.  Does anyone have
a list of the more common of these, and references for extraction?

Also, what is the preferred route of intake?


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From: smith@adlibv.adelphi.edu (Jim Smith)
Subject: Re: [anonymous] Mail-Order Head Shops
Organization: Adelphi University Swirbul Library
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:42:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.134930.26607@linus.mitre.org> lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis) writes:

>In article <1992Nov10.073049.16789@u.washington.edu>, ap.6330@cupid.sai.com (Anonymous) writes:
>>
>>Hello, I was wondering if there are any mail-order head shops anywhere
>>in the US or abroad who will ship to the US. If this is as stupid a 
>>question as asking for drugs over the internet, please tell me.

>Five years ago, I came across a catalog from an outfit called "Mellow Mail".
>They sold some pipes and stuff, but what I remember best was the lingerie
>section.  Does anybody have the address for Mellow Mail?

>Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
>I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
>The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.

A friend of mine used to get Mellow Mail.  It had tons of dope stuff: 
papers, pipes, bongs, screens, etc.  Then they started getting into 
lingerie.  About two years ago their catalog had NO dope stuff in it 
anymore.  Just sex stuff: crotchless panties, candy pants, dildos, 
inflatable dolls, dirty videos and t-shirts with nasty stuff printed on '
em.  Yeah, I was shocked.  Capitalism!
Jim
smith1.franklin@panther.adelphi.edu
From: 00rggraham@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: acidwarp again...question...
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:32:28 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

i know this regard an old post...but i just got my hands on a copy of
pkunzip...sooo...
whoever the kind sir was that posted the locations of ACIDWARP...please post
again...or contact me by e-mail...

thank you very much..
ross graham
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: Mon,  9 Nov 1992 23:21:01 -0500 
From: "Bartley R. Troyan" <bt26+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: ULTIMATE ACID MOVIE!!
	<1992Nov9.215124.28392@psych.toronto.edu>

Well, while we're still on the subject of Ultimate Acid Movies, I would have
to suggest the video by Soundgarden for their song "Break My Rusty Cage"

...trails going every which way...
Bart
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From: braindl@uhura.aston.ac.uk (DL BRAIN)
Subject: Re: More misinformation????(X-stasy)
Organization: Aston University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:35:54 GMT

I've got _no_ experience of X at all, but from what I've read MDMA is
not all that toxic (MDMA is X), but its long term effects are unknown.

If there is any truth in this report I would suspect that what she took was
not MDMA.  A program on BBC2 (a tv channel in Britain for all the others out
there in netland, and not the kind of channel to put about too much propaganda)
bought several tabs of what were sold as X and none of them actually contained
MDMA.  The tabs contained anything from MDA, MDA/Aphetamine, LSD/Aphetamine to
pure cafine...(geees what would 2g of cafine do to you)

I have also heard a story via a few friends about someone who bought some
X and their parents found it, and due to the fact that their dad was into
chemistry and had the contacts, sent it off to be analysed, it came back as
having been pure caffine in a capusle.

I should imagine that some of these combinations could make you feel pretty ill
and possibly hospitalize you, add to that a bit of press hype and I should think
thats where the story comes from.

There have been a few cases in Britain of people dying of brain heamorages and 
the like after aledgedly taking X.

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From: cliftonr@netcom.com (Pope Clifton)
Subject: Re: HELP fast with farming
Organization: t.b, t.p.d, & a.d
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 05:52:03 GMT

Michael Breen (mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu) wrote:
: Both of these remedies were applied.  Root rot was not apparent, but soil
: was saturated from remedy to #1.  The plant is still wilting 48 hours after
: remedies were applied.  It still looks healthy and green, but is drying out
: quickly and shoots are bending over.
: 
: Michael
: mbreen@ucsd.edu
  A couple of years ago (about 12 actually -- time flies) I lost a batch 
of those kind of tomatoes.  It was a year or two before I learned that
they had had aluminum poisoning.  You aren't standing their pots on an
aluminum tray are you?  I was told that if you have them on an aluminum
tray when you water, stray aluminum ions will migrate up into the soil
and gradually poison the plants.
  -- Clifton

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From: hl27+@andrew.cmu.edu (Haw Juin Lin)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: ULTIMATE ACID MOVIE!!
Date: 8 Nov 92 23:57:23 GMT
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>There has been a discussion on here about what movies to watch while
>on LSD. Well from personal experience I would say the best movie for a
>"pro tripper" would be "Altered States". 

What about "Naked Lunch"??


merlin
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From: cm31255@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Christopher Matthaei )
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Bong ideas
Date: 5 Nov 92 02:53:01 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

fasano@venus.iucf.indiana.edu (Matthew John Fasano) writes:

>I'm wondering if any one has thought of puting a screen at the end of the
>stem sticking in the water. I'm guessing this will make the bubbles smaller
>and therfore better cooling. 
What about using one of those airstones from an aquarium? This would surely
make the bubbles smaller and provide better filtering. I wonder if this
would clog with resin or something over time. Has anyone tried this?


>	Somebody mentioned better draw is good for a bong, but I find 
>I get the biggest hits using a small bong drawing very slowly.
-- 
Chris Matthaei
cm31255@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
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From: jjj@mits.mdata.fi (Joni Jarvenkyla)
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:12:31 GMT

In article <rda767f.721066604@nella8.cc.monash.edu.au> rda767f@nella8.cc.monash.edu.au (Mark Leighton) writes:
>Be warned!! N2O is highly poisonous ie LETHAL.

Yeah. Sure.

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From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Info needed on Spanish Fly !!!!!
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:16:43 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <BxHGBp.1Kt@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> app45293@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (ZUSS) writes:
>ath@linkoping.trab.se (Anders Thulin) writes:
>
>
>>Actually, chickpeas or oysters are just as good, and not quite as
>>dangerous.
>"rocky-mountain oysters."  I'll be honest and tell you I don't really know 
>a chickpea is, but it sounds like something that resembles a very small 

Chickpea => chick pee ??? => golden showers ????

If a good looking chick peed all over me, I'm afraid I'd have to  
nail her repeatedly and see if she'd do it again :-) :-) :-)
 (but she'd have to do the laundry afterwards)
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From: misd1cp@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: SKINNER IS SAD
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:21:31 GMT
Summary: ITS UP TO U
Distribution: world
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

EVERYONE SHOULD BE FREE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO..TO BE WHAT THEY WANT TO BE.
SOME DRUGS ARE OK,OTHERS ARE WRONG,WELL THATS WHAT THE GOVERNMENT
SAY...........BULL S**T.
TOBACO USED TO BE ILLEGAL,SO DID ALCOHOL,LOOK AT THEM NOW...BIG BUISNESS
SOONER OR LATER THINGS WILL CHANGE.DONT LISTEN TO SAD MAN SKINNER-
MCSDC1RS@DET.AC.UK..LOAD OF LIES...AT OUR LAST RAVE WELL THATS ANOTHER STORY



"NEXT TIME U FANCY A TRIPP TO THE MOON FLY M.D.M.A-IR,ITS FASTER."

TRIPPER.
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From: Marc_North@mindlink.bc.ca (Marc North)
Subject: Re: Acid activities (Vitamin C)
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:29:18 GMT

> Aaron Brashears writes:
>
> ALD costs $900 a gram and LSD costs $2000-$3000 a gram.  A medium level
> dealer could buy a half of a gram of LSD and a quarter of a gram of ALD
> with
> a total cost of aound $1500, but have close to $2000 worth of saleable
> product.  ALD causes many of the bad feelings associated with bad acid,
> including cramping, confusion, and delerium at levels under 100ug.  This is
> because even though ALD has similer effects as LSD, ALD is toxic.
>
> Just a reminder: if you have clean, pure acid, you feel good, have a very
> natural feel about yourself, and you can sleep.


Hi Aaron,

You've got me really scared. When I read your message, it got me wondering
about the level of toxicity in ALD.

It seems that the acid I've taken HAS caused me to have sleepless nights, has
caused me to have, on occasion, intense bowel movements, but not really
cramping. I now think that the acid I've taken, and that I may be in
possession of, is either ALD, or a mixture of ALD and LSD.

How concerned should I be? I have Dr. Hofmann's book, but unfortunately it's
not indexed, so I can't look up what he says about ALD. Do you have reliable
information that you can give me about ALD and it's long term effects?

Many thanks,

Marc North.


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From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: Intro to Extasy
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 00:47:05 GMT

ulma@coli.uni-sb.de (Ulrich Mayring) writes:
: 
: Come on, give the guy a break. If he doesn't know about X, then maybe, just
: maybe, he may think it's OK to plug his girl. Maybe now that he has heard
: what X is and what it does he is ashamed. I think one of the reasons for the
: existence of alt.drugs is to tell people like him about these things. I have
: had gross misconceptions about drugs, too, at one time. It can be hard not to
: believe what you've heard from "reliable" sources if you know next to nothing
: about the subject.
: 

Ulrich, it doesn't matter whether we are talking aspirin or heroin.  One
does not dose.  If he didn't realize *that* then the harsh, pugnacious
responses should help with that realization.

Bob
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         break that solitude, even briefly, and one must start all
         over again."

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