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Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: "Alt.angst angst" angst
From: hobbs_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Anthony 'the Bard' Hobbs)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 01:31:27 GMT
Reply-To: hobbs_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
 <1992Aug17.234051.22594@samba.oit.unc.edu> <1992Aug18.230350.9392@peponi.wcc.govt.nz>,<1992Aug19.234525.6357@samba.oit.unc.edu>
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ

In article <1992Aug19.234525.6357@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Bruce.Tindall@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Bruce Tindall) writes:
>In article <1992Aug18.230350.9392@peponi.wcc.govt.nz> hobbs_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>>BTW, when did Muldoon get trademarked?
>
>When he died, same as the Queen (tm).  Of course, she died a long time
>before Muldoon did.  Fishface Charles (tm) just hasn't caught on yet.

Dead? She can't be. She's still on the coins.

>I feel sorry for you guys.  Now that your national joke is dead, the rest
>of the world will have to go back to the sheep jokes.

If you think our country only has one national joke, you have a lot to learn.
For example, our prime minister looks like a potato so mouldy it sprouted legs. 
Of course, our politics are better than yours in one way. When David Lange 
dumped his wife and ran off with his speechwriter, no-one cared.

I think there's a lesson in that for all of us.

anthony
--
Anthony Hobbs             the Bard                hobbs_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz    
OverPope, First Holy and Unreformed Church of Frozen Yoghurt - romantic poet - 
synth player extraordinaire - kate bush is goddess - hail Eris - praise "Bob"!
DISCLAIMER: I am not Romanian and was not head of the Securitate for 15 years.
From: kovarik@utkux1.utk.edu (SaintMeechTheChaste)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: fat smelly boyfriend
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:40:35 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center

In article <1992Aug18.085902.1364@acme.gen.nz> kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I) writes:
>kovarik@utkux1.utk.edu (SaintMeechTheChaste) writes:
>
>>             I mean we all encounter someone of the appropriate gender
>> every once in a while whose clothes we would like to rip off, and
>> whose body we would like to have our way with for days if not weeks,
>> verily in an orgy of savage, unrestrained, sweaty lust.
>
>What's this "once in a while" shit?!
>
>

Ok!!!  Ok!!! When I said that, I was showing self-restraint!!!!

Geez!!!  Even the groundhogs around here have to keep their backs to 
a tree!!!1
					Meech
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: "Alt.angst angst" angst
From: hobbs_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Anthony 'the Bard' Hobbs)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 01:07:32 GMT
Reply-To: hobbs_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
 <1992Aug17.135341.20729@linus.mitre.org> <1992Aug18.225029.8617@peponi.wcc.govt.nz>,<1992Aug19.101901.498@acme.gen.nz>
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ

In article <1992Aug19.101901.498@acme.gen.nz>, kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I) writes:
>hobbs_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:

>If she's depressed far too much of the time, I'd guess she just defines angst
>in a different way than most.
>
>> She defines angst in a slighty different way to most. She says she has no
>
>See?!

Very perceptive. Ten points.

>> expectations, and thus has no angst that things will turn out all right... she
>> just takes things as they come. I wish I had that attitude.
>
>So how come she's depressed. C'mon man, we need *answers*!

Well, she's failing half her courses, she can't afford to leave home, and her
eight siblings all have personal vendettas against her.

>> DISCUSSION TOPIC: Can we separate the concepts of "angst", "depression" and
>> "weltschmerz"?
>
>Welt-who? Sheesh.

World-weariness, in German. I thought I saw someone mention it once...

anthony (hallucinating? you be the judge!)

ObBah: mega-bah.
--

Anthony Hobbs             the Bard                hobbs_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz    
OverPope, First Holy and Unreformed Church of Frozen Yoghurt - romantic poet - 
synth player extraordinaire - kate bush is goddess - hail Eris - praise "Bob"!
DISCLAIMER: I am not Romanian and was not head of the Securitate for 15 years.
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: money angst
From: hobbs_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Anthony 'the Bard' Hobbs)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:54:23 GMT
Reply-To: hobbs_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ

In article <1992Aug13.130437.11782@spuddy.uucp>, mak@spuddy.uucp (Mark Kellaway) writes:

>you mean only newbies have sig's bigger than 4 lines ? oops - Aaaaa

I wouldn't let Leader Kibo hear you say that, friend. :-)

ObAngst: I'm too boring for my SO. She's paranoid that she's too boring for me.
Therefore, we keep assuring each other how boring we are, and thus we get even
more boring than we were before. It's a vicious circle.
--
Anthony Hobbs             the Bard                hobbs_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz    
OverPope, First Holy and Unreformed Church of Frozen Yoghurt - romantic poet - 
synth player extraordinaire - kate bush is goddess - hail Eris - praise "Bob"!
DISCLAIMER: I am not Romanian and was not head of the Securitate for 15 years.
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: jennyb@triton.unm.edu (Jenny Ballmann)
Subject: Re: National Lab Syndrome 
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 01:12:06 GMT
Organization: UNM Janitorial Staff
Keywords: fat fat fat smelly smelly (perhaps grotesquely rotund, spheroid)

In article <1992Aug15.183152.9348@bnlux1.bnl.gov> schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
>In article <1992Aug14.185247.22624@utkux1.utk.edu> kovarik@utkux1.utk.edu (SaintMeechTheChaste) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug13.161152.17612@bnlux1.bnl.gov> schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
>>>In article <1992Aug12.173356.24284@utkux1.utk.edu> kovarik@utkux1.utk.edu (SaintMeechTheChaste) writes:
>
>>>>This is something I don't understand.  It happens, and it's totally weird.
>>>>I have this female friend who is very intelligent, who just got a Master's
>>>>degree in an engineering field.  She's physically attractive, and not just
>>>>bright, but when she tries to meet men, they seem to go out of their way 
>>>>to ignore her.  
>
>>>Gee, how can I meet this friend of yours?
>
>>Come to Oak Ridge, TN.
>
>Say, you wouldn't happen to be talking about ORNL, now would you?  This
>sounds way too much like being at Brookhaven.
>
Or Los Alamos.  I'm mostly lurking, but to all the angsters:  Is there
an angst reality completely disjoint from "normal" life?

Jenny, convinced that depression is merely clear assessment
-- 
"Feet disgust me.  I would've cut mine off, except that I like kicking things."
-R. Hep (nj)
From: boesch@cs.washington.edu (Eric Boesch)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: fat smelly boyfriend
Date: 14 Aug 92 01:17:44 GMT
Organization: Bull Milking Dept., Special Sauce Bureau, McDonald's

jethro@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mary Ellen Paul) writes:
[well, never mind the formalities.  Let's get to the meat of this.]
>I'm tall, smart, and don't have big boobs.

These are grave problems, but they all have the same solution.  As my
mother always said, "A lemming that dreams of flying like an eagle
just ends up plummeting to a horrible, grisly death."

Let's look at some of the likely causes of the third and most serious
problem.  Concentrate on fixing this handicap and the other two will
take care of themselves.

The usual reason for inadequate breast size is insufficient frequency
of reproduction.  But you're not married, so that's not the reason.
So try these explanations on for size:

constriction: have you been doing silly things like wearing lingerie?
Or perhaps even reading, and resting books in improper locations?

insufficient blood flow: there are many ways this can happen.  For
example, shoes often restrict the wearer's circulation; I recommend
that you go barefoot.  Thinking too much can also drain blood from
where it's more needed.

harmful effects of gravity: avoid sitting, sleeping or lying on your
back unless a man specifically asks you to.  Second, spend a few hours
each day hunched down over the furniture or kneeling on the floor with
a dustrag or disinfectant, doing what comes naturally.

Thermal contraction: Spend a few hours each day leaning over a hot
stove, doing what comes naturally.

In other words, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK LIKE A WOMAN, ACT LIKE ONE!

Anyway.  Judging people's lives like a shell-less hermit crab judges
mansions is a fun game.  But it's not a way to make someone leave
this newsgroup.  For that, compliments probably work better.
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: boesch@cs.washington.edu (Eric Boesch)
Subject: Re: alt.angst angst
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 23:39:10 GMT

In article <77719@ut-emx.uucp> llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine) writes:
>hmmm. it's weird to have angst about angst, but this group inspires
>it. after six years of calling bulletin boards all over texas and
>never hesitating to express opinions loudly on just about anything, i
>find myself having a hard time jumping in on this newsgroup. 
>
>some of it's a feeling that new angsters aren't wanted or encouraged.

That must be Steve and Rachel's fault.  They're very close, so they
seem insular.  They have seven close relatives in common, you see --
and Lassie is all seven.

If people are wanted or encouraged, they go somewhere else.

The turnover in this group is very high.  After a month or two, you
too can march around like a little dictator.  Hell, you can start
marching around like a dictator immediately.  Just send a
followup to someone who you think wouldn't know any better:

*This* isn't angst!  You're not wanted here.

If things go well, he'll decide that you speak with the Voice of
Authority.  That's the wonderful thing about the net: its rules can't
be guessed, but only learned.  I can be a fool and pretend I'm not one
because I know the rules.  And I can often make someone with more
sense than me look silly by exploiting that knowledge.

That's probably the real reason this seems insular: it's not angst any
more, it's a ritual.  I'm a deeply happy person who once wasn't, but I
haven't left yet because of inertia.  So it's all form now:

"Shitty day, Beth."
"Shitty day, Bill."
"How's the Void today?"
"Dismal, Bill, dismal."
"Die a slow painful death, Beth."
"Die a slow painful death, Bill."

-- emb
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: fat smelly boyfriend
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 00:07:07 GMT
 <1992Aug11.180759.10380@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> 
 <1992Aug15.040354.891@acme.gen.nz> <1992Aug17.155119.15023@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Keywords: fat fat fat smelly smelly

rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins) writes:

> kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I) writes:
>
> >First Rachel says this:
> >
> >> hmmm. the fat part probably wouldn't bother me.
> >
> >and then she says this:
> >
> >> i'm tall, smart, and i do have big boobs.
> >
> >It must be density, clearly she is my DreamGoddess! Rachel, I want to have
> >your children and run away with you to a small unpopulated sub-artic
> >isle.
> 
> coming to the mini angstcon, craig?

Alas, no. After my last jaunt overseas I am still so extremely broke I can't
even think about it in the next 24 months. I am doomed it seems to merely
worship you from afar.

ObAngst: of course, as I've mentioned previously, I've got an extremely bad
	case of the travel itch and the temptation to flog off my personal
	possesions and trudge around the world for a while. It's mostly
	escapism combined with the sheer drudgery of a normal job, but I
	still long for it.

						- k
-- 
Craig Harding            kilroy@acme.gen.nz             ACME BBS +64 63 3551342
"Jub'f Xvob?"
From: steve@cse.fau.edu (Steve Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: a girl in McDonalds
Date: 13 Aug 92 03:55:33 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA

PS: I have more than 2 friends.
-- 
      ___________________________________________________________
     (_____    |   (______    Internet: steve@cse.fau.edu
___________)___|__________)   Bitnet:   S_SMITH@FAUVAX
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: fat smelly boyfriend
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:02:53 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.160650.15173@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins) writes:
>In article <1992Aug16.014418.16237@peponi.wcc.govt.nz> hobbs_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:

>>'All you sailors... (get out of the waves, girl, get out of the water...)
>> All life savers... (get out of the waves, girl, get out of the water...)
>> All you cruisers... (get out of the waves, girl, get out of the water...)
>> All you fishermen, wait for him,
>> Go to sleep, little earth.'
>>
>>I think Kate Bush should be required listening for all angsters.


Who was it that said: Rush fans wonder why all the world dosen't love
Rush and Kate Bush fans talk about peace and love and secretly plot how
to kill each other at night.  There's one more group to it, but I can't
recall the whole thing.


-- 
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schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov         |  .sig may cause retinal damage and 
Brookhaven National Laboratory  |  blistering skin rashes.
From: rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: alt.angst angst
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:25:10 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <1992Aug18.010438.7028@beaver.cs.washington.edu> boesch@cs.washington.edu (Eric Boesch) writes:

>
>I was incapacitated by happy drugs.  Holly Hobbie came riding her
>unicorn down the side of a rainbow, and I wanted to flee but I slipped
>in a puddle of urine and then the Care Bears charged at me but I was
>paralyzed and just lay there excreting things all over my nice new
>clothes.  Then Glinda the Good Witch walked up to me and *sob* pulled
>down the top of her *wheeze* dress, and I was horrified but she picked
>me up and hypnotized me with them and she forced me to *sob* *pant*
>*moan* and and and it made me drunk and she made me cancel my followup
>to Rachel's terribly hurtful and unjust accusations and made me write
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>something else instead and then they disappeared and I was struck by
>self-loathing and and then strangely excited and back and forth and my
>mouth my whole mouth is numb I think it's cancer.


which accusations were those? i'd hate to have insulted someone and not
even know it...

oh bah.



--
		-just give me what for,
	rachel perkins =  rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu
      "Chastity..the most unnatural of all the sexual perversions...."
					-Aldous Huxley
From: rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: fat smelly boyfriend
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:06:50 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <1992Aug16.014418.16237@peponi.wcc.govt.nz> hobbs_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>
>'All you sailors... (get out of the waves, girl, get out of the water...)
> All life savers... (get out of the waves, girl, get out of the water...)
> All you cruisers... (get out of the waves, girl, get out of the water...)
> All you fishermen, wait for him,
> Go to sleep, little earth.'
>
>I think Kate Bush should be required listening for all angsters.


indeedy...

"as the people here grow colder, i turn to my computer, and spend my evenings
with it like a friend..
"i was loading in your program that i ordered from a magazine..

..."hello...i know that you've been feeling tired..i bring you love, and deeper
understanding.."


ObAngst: my parents arrive today, bringing my brother to the university. all
his bills are paid, they're giving him a car, and buying him food and books,
when i can't even afford to pay my bus fare.
i hate this bitter feeling. it's not his fault.

bah.
--
		-just give me what for,
	rachel perkins =  rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu
      "Chastity..the most unnatural of all the sexual perversions...."
					-Aldous Huxley
From: kovarik@utkux1.utk.edu (SaintMeechTheChaste)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: National Lab Syndrome  (Score update)
Keywords: (perhaps grotesquely rotund, spheroid, fragrant and radioactive)
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:34:17 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center

Score:      Vultures   Ravens   Deer/Ticks    Barbie/Ken    Rednecks  
								      

Los Alamos   N/A        x        N/A           N/A           N/A    
Brookhaven   N/A        N/A      x             x             x
Oak Ridge    x          x        x             x             x

            Radioactive
            Wildlife
Los Alamos   N/A
Brookhaven   N/A
Oak Ridge    x (frogs,
             anything 
             herbivourous)

Any additions?  Perhaps someone from Hanford or Savannah River might like
to add their 2 cents?

Oh.... One other incident here at Oak Ridge.....  Last year, an experiment
heavy-ion type of physicist was working late, calibrating a detector with
a radioactive source.  Well, somehow he got some of it on the floor of his
lab, and thence onto his shoes, and made it past the geiger counters at
the entrance to his lab without it being immediatedly spotted.  Well, the
poor bozo was having an affair in town.  So after work he went to her 
place, and did several of the usual things people do when they are having
affairs.  Well, the next morning, someone at the lab discovered a trail
of radioactive footprints all over the building, and Health Physics (hah,
what a misnomer) were called.  They figured out who'd been there the
previous evening, and where he might have gone, and then the men in the 
radiation suits showed up at the lady's apartment to give it, and the
conjugal bed a thorough sweep with their geiger counters.  I am not sure
what they found there, but I am sure the reaction of the loving couple
would have been most amusing to see.

And over the next few days, those same lads in their white suits
went over our parking lot with a fine toothed comb, and on more than one
occasion I saw them excitedly point at what appeared to be nothing more
than a tiny oil stain on the pavement.  But the next day, the top 1/8 of
an inch of pavement at that location was removed.  

Oh, and there are places on the floors in some of the older buildings where
there are circles drawn on the floor with chalk where you are not supposed
to step because someone spilled something bad which nobody cleaned up.
And the tiny fenced off areas of grass, like a square yard or two in
size, with warning signs attached.  Clouds of steam emanating from pipes
which have radioactivity warning signs on them.  

Sound good so far?


						Meech
From: mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S. Morris)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Accents
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:06:35 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

: And here I thought I was the only one with foreign-language angst.  The USA'n school
: systems are generally terrible, and they have to stress trying to make people literate
: in ENGLISH, let alone the foreign languages.  I personally am a bit resentful that we
: weren't required to take a full course of at least one language.  Yes, I had the option,
: but try to explain to a stubborn high-schooler (me) that it is important.  No chance.
: If our schools stressed foreign languages, like civilized countries' school systems do,
: then I could at least read/speak German at a better level than that of a 3-yr old.
: 
Get real, my school wouldn't even consider letting me take a 
foreign language until my English (including grammer) was up
to snuff. Funny thing, I understood more about the English
languague once I had something else to study, like Spanish.
I'm still trying to figure out what a school is for if they
try so hard to prevent you from learning anything significant.



--
Mary E. S. Morris    |  The future exists first in imagination, then
mesm@netcom.COM      |  in will, then in reality. -- Galivan Burwell
=====================================================================
Netcom - Online Communication Services San Jose, CA
From: ABienek@acorn.co.uk (Alex Bienek)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Rebel without a grant (was fat, smelly)
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:30:56 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England

In article <1992Aug17.160650.15173@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins) writes:

>indeedy...

Been watching Red Dwarf have we ?

>
>ObAngst: my parents arrive today, bringing my brother to the university. all
>his bills are paid, they're giving him a car, and buying him food and books,
>when i can't even afford to pay my bus fare.
>i hate this bitter feeling. it's not his fault.
>

It may not be his fault but he should surely feel extremely guilty about
the bias shown by your parents, and tell them so. Unless ofcourse he
agrees with them, but that is unlikely as this is mainly a generation
thing with perhaps a little bit of class thrown in.

I have a friend who has (or had) exactly the same problem. Her parents
intended her to marry a doctor or lawyer, have kids etc. Instead she
moved into rented accommodation and did a PhD. They wouldn't speak to
her for the first six-months, even now (eight years on) they will not
visit her, she must go to their house.
Fortunately, being in England, she got a grant and wasn't dependent on them
for money.

Being a British citizen I would have thought that you would have been
entitled to a grant in this country, is that not so ?

ObAngst: Milk producers putting half a litre of milk into a pint carton
         and charging the same price. Look, instant profit increase !
         In the UK our pints, pounds and miles are under constant attack
         from those nasty metric foreigners.

Alex.
From: reinstat@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Reinstatler)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: a girl in McDonalds
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:40:11 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Aug19.100710.159@acme.gen.nz> kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I) writes:
>zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd) writes:
>
>> ObAngst: just had my photo taken for the company files.  Expecting a stream 
>> of dis-satisfied users screaming 'It was HIM!' any day now....
>> It's one of these cameras that write to floppy disk, so I may post the .GIF 
>> to give you all nightmares.  If I can work out how to trim my moustache 

nonononononononononononono
Too many gifs on our uniform access computers got several
alt.----  newsgroups removed here at the UW.  Please don't, I'd
miss alt.angst way too much (so I'm an engineer, not an english
major (or general either)).
 
>Omigod. Alt.angst posters start exchanging GIF pictures of themselves. The
>mind boggles.
>
No kidding.

bahphooey (with thanks to Rachel)

Bob Reinstatler     reinstat@u.washington.edu
From: Bruce.Tindall@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Bruce Tindall)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Angst comparison (was Re: money angst)
Date: 19 Aug 92 23:33:52 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <1992Aug18.130234.12025@bnlux1.bnl.gov> schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
>What the hell is it about being 25 that causes this!?!?!
>Post-college/real-job Trauma Stress Syndrome?  I'm 25 and I've got it,
>too. 

It's a foretaste of real angst.  I turn 25 IN HEX next year, which I hadn't
realized until I read your post.  

I assure you, it doesn't get any better, to say the least.

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