From: CCHB@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CCHB000)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: 2267 Performance Rating for 10-year old in Montreal
Date: 3 Jan 93 19:13:48 GMT
Organization: McGill University

In article <1993Jan2.130353.14810@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> pmbarlow@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Pete Barlow... 'The Candy Guru') writes:
>In article <31DEC92.15661460.0064@VM1.MCGILL.CA>, CCHB@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CCHB) writes:
>> Here is a CHESS-related item:
>>
>> Ten-year old Lefong Hua scored an impressive 3.5 out of 5 in the
>> Open section of a tournament in Montreal (Canada) which ended
>> yesterday. His results were as follows (he was ranked 45th out
>> of 49 players at the start):
>[results deleted]
>> His performance rating was 2278, raising his rating to 1947.
>> After adjusting for the "deflated ratings" of Canadian players, his
>> USCF rating would be somewhere around 2100 (published USCF rating is
>> in the 1600's, based on 6 games).
>> His photo was on the front cover of the February 1992 issue of CHESS
>> LIFE (upper right, holding trophy), after winning the Grade 4 section
>> of the National Elementary School Championships (Nov. 1991).
>
>Wow.
>
>> His brother, age 6, wants to play in tournaments too, but is just
>> learning to write, and cannot record his moves!
>
>Easy enough.  If the kids parents are coming along to the tournaments, just
>have THEM record the moves until the kid is old enough to write for himself.
>That'd come under the "appointing a deputy" clause, in the rules for
>handicapped players section of the ORC, and not knowing how to write would
>certainly be a valid reason to have someone else record the moves.

I had suggested this, but the parents have decided to wait until this
summer before entering him in an adult tournament. The father plays
regularly and has a 1350 rating.

>
>> Does anyone know if a ten-year old has ever had an expert (or a master)
>> rating before? (Fischer became a master at 13).
>
>Uh... I don't know if Jorge Zamora made expert before his tenth birthday or
>not... or if he's even gotten there yet.  But aside from him, no one comes to
>mind.
>
>TCG, pb.
>.
>.

Someone posted a table a few months ago with the approximate ratings
of some strong players (past and present) at different age levels.
Here is a quick summary (age at which rating level was reached):

Name        1800 1900 2000 2100 2200 2300 2400 2500 2600 2700
--------------------------------------------------------------
Short         9   10   10   11   12   12   14   15   20
Fischer      10   12   12   13   13   14   14   14   16   20
Kasparov      9   10   10   11   12   13   15   15   16   20
Karpov        8    9   10   11   12   14   15   19   20   23
Mecking      10   11   12   13   13   13   14   15   21
Spassky       9   10   11   12   12   14   15   16   18   28
Alekhine     11   12   13   14   14   15   16   19   25   28
Capablanca    9   10   11   12   13   16   17   18   20   24
Pomar         9   10   10   11   12   13   19   28
Adams        10   10   11   12   13   13   16   17   19
Reshevsky     7    7    7    8    9   11   19   23   26

Now to add some Canadian players:

Spraggett    16   16   17   17   18   19   22   24
Lesiege      12   13   13   13   14   14   16
Lefong Hua   10   10   10

(Lesiege should pass the 2500 mark very soon at the age of 17).


Hugh.