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From: kemp@uiatma.atmos.uiuc.edu (John Kemp)
Subject: PATCHES & DEVICES (?)
Organization: University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 04:31:22 GMT

2 Crucial questions:

1.  Is there a way to check if a patch is really in the kernel?

We have applied any number of patches.  Is there a way to be sure that
a patch is actually part of a new kernel?  Does it just boil down to 
the idea that anything in the "/system" dir will always be included
in the new kernel? 

Or do you have to look at "libhp-ux.a", extract the affected object
code, and compare it with whatever came with the patch???  Yes?

2.  Is there an easy way to reset all device file permissions?

I don't see "mkdev" or "insf" on our system (HPUX 8.07).
I assume either of those are the recommended scripts to use, 
but they ain't here.  I can do a file-by-file comparison to 
one of our other systems, but that seems a little tedious a
one of the other systems.

(If you're nice, I'll let you know if PHNE_1440 cures the freeze
problem or not. ;-/)
Thanks in advance! 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: filipi@cebaf9.cebaf.gov (Adrian Thomas Filipi-Martin)
Subject: Building MIT-X11R5 on a 735 w/8.0
Reply-To: filipi@cebaf9.cebaf.gov (Adrian Thomas Filipi-Martin)
Organization: CEBAF (Continuous Electron Beam Accelerator Facility)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:13:15 GMT

--

	I've been trying to build the MIT distribution of X11R5 using the 
R5.HP.SRV patches from export.lcs.mit.edu. 

	1. Has anyone who has tried this had any problems? xterm won't compile
	   because of some conflicting #defines  in <stdio.h>. Is there a patch?

	2. Has anyone taken the time to get imake & xmkmf to work correctly
	   under hpux 8.0 on either 700's or 300's? I used the hp.cf from
	   R5.HP.SRV as a basis, but I can't compile things like xphoon.tar.Z
	   manually without adding some #defines. Even then it won't link because
	   this code calls some code in libraries which aren't available.

Any and all help will be greatly appreciated.
	Adrian.
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From: "richard hajinlian" <richard.hajinlian@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: passing sock des/w ix
Date: 6 Jan 93 09:02:38 EST
Reply-To: "richard hajinlian" <richard.hajinlian@channel1.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

I'm trying to convert my netipc program to work on an ix platform.

How would I pass my socket descriptor to a process I have created?

Thanks in advance.

Rich.....                                    Billerica, MA usa
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From: stevewi@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Steve Witten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: cc(1) bug in 9.0
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:37:40 GMT
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA

Do you have the CCOPTS environment variable set with these options?

===============================================================================
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Network Test Division           ...!hplabs!hpspd!stevewi
Hewlett-Packard Co.             stevewi@hpspd.spd.hp.com
From: arons@tyfon.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Tom Arons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Problems with HPterm and tcsh
Date: 6 Jan 93 00:35:03 GMT
Organization: University of California at Davis
In-reply-to: bouyer@babette.ensta.fr's message of 4 Jan 93 19:38:14 GMT

In article <1ia3n6INNqnm@ensta.ensta.fr> bouyer@babette.ensta.fr (Manuel Bouyer) writes:

   I have some problems with HPterm (Xwindow) amd tcsh: HPterm uses itself the 
   arrow keys and don't send the sequences to tcsh. I'd prefer not to use xterm,
   because HPterm has some usefull options (as -map). Is there a solution to have
   the advantages of HPterm AND tcsh ?

This is what works for me:

alias precmd 'echo -n `tput smkx`'

in my .cshrc.  The tput smkx makes the cursor commands do the right thing.  Aliasing it to precmd
assures that if some program you run resets the tty modes the damage will be undone by the
time you give the next command to the shell.  I think I picked this fix up in this newsgroup
a while ago.
  Tom Arons
From: mjo@iao.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP Workstations for EMail use.
Date: 12 Jan 1993 19:46:13 GMT
Organization: Not an official spokesperson for Ford Motor Company
Reply-To: Mike O'Connor <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: ope001.iao.ford.com

In article <1993Jan12.181533.12932@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca>
khindria@maccs.mcmaster.ca (Vivek Khindria (CSU)) writes:

:   Our group will be setting up an HP workstation ?(725)
:  for 1200 user email system using Pine.  Does anyone have any experience or
:  comments about system requirements, performance, etc..

How many users wil lbe on simultaneously?

How will they be accessing the system?

What sorts of email traffic will you be handling?  

Will you be doing other things on the workstation?

As phrased, it's difficult to comment on what you want.

						...Mike

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: munir@fc.hp.com (Munir Mallal)
Subject: Re: maximum file size
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:56:11 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

Pierre Infelta wrote:
: I would like to be able to create a single file that could grow to 5MBytes.
: On a system 735 with a number of 2GB disks , does any one know out there if
: this is possible? 

No, it is not possible.  The maixmum allowable file is 2GB.  Filesystems
and raw device I/O can approach 4GB.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: berry@socrates.umd.edu (Joseph Berry)
Subject: What is pcs?
Summary: What is pcs?
Keywords: pcs performance
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:47:44 GMT

Does anyone have any "real" information about what pcs is?  I understand
that it's a daemon (yes?) associated with GlancePlus/UX (yes?) and/or
PerfView (??).  

Joe

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: paulleo@comet.med.utah.edu (Paul Leo)
Subject: dump/rdump settings for dumping to an exabyte 8500 5 GB 8mm tape drive
Organization: Department of Human Genetics, University of Utah
Distribution: comp
Date: 11 Jan 93 18:52:04


Could someone tell me the settings used with dump under HPUX 8.07 for
writign to an exabyte 8500 5 GB 8mm tape drive?

thanks,

Paul Leo
paulleo@comet.med.utah.edu
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From: mario@cad4.lbl.gov (mario aranha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: clusters, etc.
Followup-To: comp.sys.hp
Date: 7 Jan 1993 21:47:26 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.252.177
Keywords: logins, servers, clusters


I've been experimenting with a 705 cluster server
with the clients being more powerful 710s, 730s, etc.
The reasoning is that the server needs little CPU and
graphics and is in a public area so why waste a better
machine. The b&w screen also discourages "squatters" from
starting X-windows on the display.  This has been
working well so I'd like to take this one step further
and limit (r)logins to the server which may hog vital
server CPU. I suspect this question has come up a lot
before, in which case e-mail me directly if you have
the answer. Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.sgi
From: richard@fc.hp.com (Richard Artz)
Subject: Re: why does hpux tset always prompt for term type and not irix???
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:50:45 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

fish@daacdev1.stx.com wrote:
: 
: isn't it supposed to be smart enough to go look in the termcap or
: terminfo file to try to figure it out and then only ask if it has
: a problem
: 
If you have the "ttytype" command found on 8.07 an 9.0, you might try
something like this (from my ksh .profile):

   eval `ttytype -s -tANSI -thp`   # find terminal and set TERM and ERASE
   eval `tset -Q -e ${ERASE:-^H} $TERM`

 Richard Artz / OSSD Learning Products / 303-229-2036 / richard@fc.hp.com
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From: ken@sdd.hp.com (Ken Stone)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Synchronize time?
Date: 8 Jan 1993 17:13:08 -0800
Organization: Hewlett Packard, San Diego Division
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpsdlz.sdd.hp.com

>># Use ntp to set the clock
>
>You didn't say where one can get ntp for the HP's. The stock code does

Howard is talking about really ancient stuff ... notice the "ntp" ...
so just ignore him :-)

What you want is on louie.udel.edu in /pub/ntp/xntp3.tar.Z ... works great
on most all forms of HP-UX.

  -- Ken
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: howeird@hpl.hp.com (Howard Stateman)
Subject: Re: How does HPUX find name server?
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:06:53 GMT
Organization: HP Research Grants Program
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL7]

Michael Smith (p00004@psilink.com) wrote:
: I have the ARPA services up and running and I can ping anybody in the 
: world, do Telnet and FTP, etc., as long as I have the Internet address 
: (i.e. the numeric form) of the host address. It can't deal with domain 
: name addresses and doesn't seem to be even trying to get to a domain 
: name server. I have the internet address for the DNS we use, and I've 
: created a resolve.conf file in the usual way with this address in it, 
: but this doesn't seem to help. Can this revision use the DNS? If so, how 
: do I call its attention to the existence of the service and the location 
: of the server?

It sounds like you may not have specified a default gateway, and/or you
don't have your default gateway's info in /etc/hosts. If your machine is on
the other side of a gateway from the nameserver, this would keep you from
resolving any network names. 

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From: stroyan@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Mike Stroyan)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:33:20 GMT
Subject: Re: How to play sun audio (.au) files on a HP700 ?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

In comp.sys.hp, lallemen@moselle.loria.fr (Yannick Lallement) writes:
> .......                I've another question : what is the name of the
> frame buffer (/dev/fb on sparcs) on these hosts ?

The "frame buffer" is accessed by the /dev/crt device file.

I am concerned by your question.  There are very few reasons to access
/dev/crt directly.  All current displays have sophisticated graphics
controllers that are much more than simple frame buffers.  The interface to
these devices differs for each display type.  The portable way to use
these devices is via X windows or one of the graphics libraries such as
Starbase or HP-PHIGS.

Some of the newest displays are only supported by X and by the graphics
libraries within X windows.  If you describe what features you want to
use, I could suggest the easiest approach.

Mike Stroyan, mike_stroyan@fc.hp.com
From: sas@baffin.aruba.UUCP (Steve Sciandra)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: getting avail memory amount on HP
Date: 4 Jan 93 17:41:18 GMT
Reply-To: sas@opl.com
Organization: Marcam Corporation

Hello,

Does anybody  out there know how to obtain the current available amount
of memory that is available to a process on a HP 700.  An associate of mine
came up with an implementation that works for SunOS but that doesn't
compile under HP, no wonder...  below is the SunOS implemtation with hope
that it jogs somebody's knowledge of HP memory stuff

	SUNOS implementation
	-------------------
	struct rlimit r1;			// declare struct
	getrlimit(RLIMIT_DATA, &r1);		// populate struct 
        return(etext + r1.rlim_max - sbrk(0));  // get remaining memory

thanks in advance. 

sas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: dave@hp1.holl.com (David Vrona)
Subject: Re: UUCP and callback modems
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:31:03 GMT
Organization: Hollister Incorporated,  Libertyville, IL

In article <1993Jan4.211512.11769@zephir.boa.ch> bj@zephir.boa.ch (Beat Jucker) writes:
>For security reasons we have to use callback modems. But of course (?)
>UUCP doesn't know anything of a callback facility.
>
>Is it somehow possible to configure UUCP that it know's there is a callback
>modem on the other end?
>

I believe Taylor UUCP does callback.

dave
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: dan@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Dan Freedman)
Subject: Re: Batchjob que for hp700
Organization: Freedman Sharp and Associates Inc.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:57:04 GMT

In article <1ickjuINNl1f@transfer.stratus.com> dean@nassau.hw.stratus.com (Dean Markarian) writes:
>Has anyone out there installed MDQS, QBATCH, or any batch job que on a 
>700 series HP.  If so could you tell me what software you used and
>where you got it? thank you

We have a product called "Load Balancer", that does network-wide batch
queueing and load balancing on Sun, HP, DEC, IBM, and SGI UNIX
platforms. Please send e-mail to dan@newt.cuc.ab.ca or phone for more
information (sorry for the commercialism ;-)

Dan Freedman, Director
Freedman Sharp and Associates Inc.
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
(403) 251 2729
dan@newt.cuc.ab.ca
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: sieler@shell.portal.com (Stan Sieler)
Subject: Re: question about HP700 models and memory
Organization: Portal Communications Company
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:53:53 GMT

Walter B. Ligon III (walt@eng.clemson.edu) wrote:
: I have two HP700 series workstations that I inherited.  I'm not exactly
: sure which models they are.  They are both desktop models, and one has
: the model number:
: 
: A2263A
: 
: while the other is:
: 
: A1094A
: 
: Can anyone tell me whether these are 720, 730, 750, or what?

Gee... "What If" HP actually put model numbers on the front of the computer!
I've called for this before.  Maybe we need to refuse to purchase computers
that don't have model numbers clearly posted?

: The next question concerns memory upgrade.  I would like to expand the
: memory in these to the maximum.  Can anyone tell me how much these beasts will
: hold, what size SIMM's I need to use, and whether these are standard SIMMs or
: proprietary?
: 
: Walt

Here are some memory limits, using third party memory (I got the
information from Kelly Computer Systems at (415) 960-1010):

    CPU model   Max MB     Memory Array sizes available
   ----------   ------     ----------------------------
   750, 755     768 MB     128, 64, 32
      735       400             64, 32, 16
   720, 730     256             64, 32, 16
      725       256             64, 32, 16
      715       192             64, 32, 16
   705, 710      64                 32, 16
   745, 747     128                 32, 16
      742        64                 32, 16

Note: some of these limits are above the amount "officially" supported
by HP.  

Stan Sieler
sieler@allegro.com

From: kev@hpcpbla.bri.hp.com (Kevin Jones)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:45:58 GMT
Subject: Re: Fbackup to compressed DAT drive
Organization: HP Computer Peripherals Bristol, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

> However
> when using fbackup the tape does not appear to operate with compression
> enabled.  Does anyone have any ideas?

I am not sure why you think compression is disabled with fbackup. The 
application itself excercises no control over compression.

I will guess you're suspecting no-compression due to reduced performance levels 

Try putting the following in your fbackup configuration file:

blocksperrecord   256
checkpointfreq    512

These are "realistic" values (the man page specifies '32's which are likely 
to hit performance).


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: pdg@cup.hp.com (Paul Gootherts)
Subject: Re: HP-UX version of setpriority/getpriority
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:35:37 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

> Please, what is the HP equivalent of BSD's setpriority
> and getpriority.

Release 9.0 (both Series 700 and 800) has getpriority and setpriority.
(Earlier releases do not.)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: peja@ise.fhg.de (Peter Jaegle)
Subject: Re: C2 level security on HP9000/827s
Keywords: security, trusted systems
Organization: FhG-ISE - Institute for Solar Energy Systems
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 00:04:47 GMT

prs9k@brain.med.virginia.edu (Phil Scarr) writes:

>We are considering a conversion of our system from standard /etc/passwd
>file to the /.secure/etc/.passwd (shadow password) format. 

Some programs will not work with shadow password on HP-UX  because
HP forgot rpc.pwdauthd :-(  e.g. xlock, vue (yes, in old vue-version
you can lock the screen but never unlock, in new versions you cannot
lock the screen). The response center told us there's no fix for
that problem so we dropped our plan to use shadow passwords.

Peter
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: quenton@Cherniak.ON.CA (Dennis Smith)
Subject: /bin/sh on HP-UX on HP-9000, case problem
Organization: Cherniak Giblon
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:46:06 GMT



I just started using an HP-9000.  I had to port a few hundres
utilities, some C and some shell scripts.  I found that most of my
shell scripts failed.  The problem appeared to be statements of the form:

	case "abc?def" in
	   *"?"*) echo OK;;
	esac

This should echo "OK".
It does on ksh.  It does on /bin/sh on 8 other platforms including AIX.
It does not on /bin/sh on the HP.

For now I have replaced /bin/sh with /bin/ksh.  I had to actually replace it
because I have things run from cron which were failing too.

Anyone run into this before?  Anyone think I will have problems using ksh
as /bin/sh?
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From: bs@Germany.EU.net (Bernard Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: PCL to PostScript translator
Date: 11 Jan 1993 10:56:10 GMT
Organization: CS Department, Dortmund University, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: qwerty.germany.eu.net

In article <1il3udINN3lq@hpscit.sc.hp.com>, dave@hpdstma.ptp.hp.com (Dave Waller) writes:
.> In article <1993Jan7.181926@IASTATE.EDU>, cupples@IASTATE.EDU (Robert L Cupples) writes:
.> |> I have an opposite problem.  Does anybody have a ps2lj?
.> Yes - pick up a copy of the GNU GhostScript package. Among many other goodies,
.> it includes a driver that will allow you to print to HP LaserJets, and produces
.> acceptable output (the fonts don't look quite as nice as real PS, but I think
.> that is intentional to avoid violating copyrights).

Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be able to process the output from dvips
to printable file; just to the display.

-Bernard
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey)
Subject: Re: cc(1) bug in 9.0
Reply-To: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:56:33 GMT

In article <C0Jzwp.DAt@hpuerca.atl.hp.com> mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike Reaser)  
writes:
>In <1993Jan8.122700.18581@julian.uwo.ca> zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R.  
Bailey) writes:
>
>>since updating to 9.0 on my 822/S, I have found the c compiler to complain
>>about options which i do not use:
> ...
>Please issue the commands "uname -a" and "what /bin/cc".  If the uname
>command correctly indicates you are on 9.0, and if the what(1) shows
>the version of /bin/cc to be A.08.xx (most likely, A.08.17), please
>get in touch with your HP support contact -- probably the Response Center.
>
>This problem has been reported to HP under service request 5003-102673.
>If the versions identify as above, the Response Center should be able to 
>help you with this problem.

BINGO! 
$ uname -a
HP-UX ctrg A.09.00 E 9000/822 781116191 8-user license
$ what /bin/cc
/bin/cc:
        HP92453-01 A.08.17 HP C Compiler
$

thank you Mike.
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