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From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: leg shave shacks
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:36:42 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

In article <BtuwI5.6J1@acsu.buffalo.edu> v008pcqu@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Patrick E Tuxbury) writes:

	 Is it true that after you shave your legs for the first time it grows
>back thicker than it was in the first place.  Girls have told me so and I
>suppose they're the experts.  Anyone know otherwise?

TOTAL MYTH. Beleived for two reasons:

1) when you don't shave, your hair tapers naturally at the end.
Shaving makes a thick, rough cut edge which FEELS thicker and rougher.

2) If your first experiences with shaving are in adolescence, your
adult hair will be thicker, but you might not notice until you stop.

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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: praetzel@marconi.uwaterloo.ca (Eric Praetzel)
Subject: Re: leg shave shacks
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:36:27 GMT

In article <la4pv1INN88@cypress.cs.utexas.edu> varvel@cs.utexas.edu (Donald A. Varvel) writes:
>In article <1992Aug30.025502.504@vms.huji.ac.il> oren@coma.huji.ac.il (Oren Mitz) writes:
>>So what should I do?  Should I shave and hope that it won't grow longer?
>I have been told that "the hair grows back longer" is a myth.
  It is a myth.  The shape and type of hair is governed by the pore size of the
hair folical.  The length of the hair is genetically determined.  Basically the
folical will only grow hair for so long and then rest.  That growth phase 
determines the ultimate length of the hair.  The the growth rate is determined
by the folical as well and it does not know if the hair is cut or not.
  - Eric
From: jym@mica.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: MTB: Re: Frequency of flats
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:24:48
Organization: The Naughty Peahen Party Line
	<l+dnj!=.akkana@netcom.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: akkana@netcom.com's message of 28 Aug 92 03:49:22 GMT

> Speaking of frequency of flats, it's gotten rather thorny on
> the local trails lately.

=o= I don't know where Netcom is (or where you are), but the 408
area code gives me a pretty good idea.

=o= I was having major problems with thorns when I lived (and
biked, off-road and on) in Fremont (which is near the 408 area
code).  The solution:  Mr Tuffys.

=o= Since putting Mr Tuffys in my tires three years ago, I have
had only one flat, and that was from a 1.5" nail that somebody
had left pointing upwards in my path.
    <_Jym_>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: mccalley@rtsg.mot.com (Phil McCalley)
Subject: Re: My Pants Leg is Dying...
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:16:48 GMT

ccoprbm@prism.gatech.EDU (Bruce Mccullough) writes:

>I say to hell with it ride nude!! That ought to be good for a lot of looks
>and laughs (nothing personal). Might get a couple of tickets but might
>be worth it. Nude riders unite and fight against chain ring paint tear!! 
>-- 

I beleive there is such a thing in England.  I saw a picture of it on the
insert for a compact disk (Queen - Jazz).  All women.  Anybody know where
and when this is?
-- 
....................................................... Phil McCalley
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: rlewis@muskwa.ucs.ualberta.ca (Robert Lewis)
Subject: Re: Ding resistance of 26x1.4" tires?
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:21:17 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.195441.27208@leland.Stanford.EDU> pcl@leland.Stanford.EDU (Paul Chiao Liu) writes:
>Hi,
>I've been thinking of switching from Ritchey Quad 1.9" tires on my mtb
>to a narrower, lighter, road-style tire, maybe a Ritchey Tom Slick 1.4".
>
>My question here concerns rim dings.  How hard can you ride 1.4" tires
>without getting dings?  Is pumping them up to max pressure (maybe 90-100
>psi) sufficient to avoid dings on curbs, large potholes, or when offroad
>traversing small rocks or ruts? Does it almost guarantee no dings? I
>weight about 150 lbs, in case that matters, and carry another 10-15 lbs.
>of water, tools, food, etc. typically, and I'm not especially a
>"power" mountain biker, hanging air, or anything like that.

We've ridden Specialized Fatboys, 26" x 1.5", on our loaded touring
bike, total load 300-350 lbs, without ever suffering either snake bite
flats or rim dents.  Mind you we never ride on them at less than
100lbs/sq", often higher.  We've also riden on 27" x 1 & 1/8", same
weights, without ever suffering either snake bite flats or rim dents;
these were pumped to a 130 lbs/sq".  While we never ride off-road
hitting pot-holes at 40 mph is a pretty good test of tires.  If you keep
your tire pressures up (which also reduces rolling resistance) you
shouldn't have any problems with dings.


Robert M. Lewis
Department of Sociology
University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: blagdon@engin.umich.edu (Kenneth James Clark )
Subject: Re: traffic rules (was: Hints on commuting by bike?)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 10:53:43 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.soc

In article <1992Sep1.142442.25412@cbfsb.cb.att.com> weird@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (john.t.erhardt) writes:
>It really is true, the bike paths weren't made to give cyclists a safe
>place to ride (they don't) they're to get bikes off the road.  

Yup, and discussions like this don't really belong in r.b.misc.  They're
supposed to be in r.b.soc.  

Ken
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: praetzel@marconi.uwaterloo.ca (Eric Praetzel)
Subject: Re: collarbone rehab??
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:39:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.153943.6744@javelin.sim.es.com> rpetty@mu.enet.dec.com (Rich Petty) writes:
>--rich---
>Congratulations on your first broken bone! I broke my collar bone in a
>skiing
>accident some years ago, and I can't believe your even thinking of
>moving that arm,
  What?  A mere broken bone got you off the bike.  When I broke mine for the
first time I was off the bike for 4 days while some other associated stuff
healed.  The 2nd time I just kept on riding.  Of course it depends upon the
type of fracture and you should listen to your doctor but mine did not seem
to go into fits when I mentioned that I wanted to keep on riding.
  Of course MTB'ing was out of the question (too much jarring) and I could not
really put weight on the arm or use it in fast motions but that never stopped
me from doing some easy 2+ hour rides for the month it took to heal.  The 2nd
time also took exactly one month to fuse.  I was doing handstand pushups a few
weeks after that without problems.
  Actually I was in a few other crashes (those trees do move quickly) and at
times I have needed crutches to walk but could keep on riding.  Just be sure
that you know what the injury is and make sure that cycling will not aggrevate
it.  If you experience pain then do listen to your body and back off.  

>except I had to modify my golf swing. How do you feel today? My guess is
>pretty sore
>after the pain killers wore off.
  I never had much pain except when I moved the arm quickly.  Actually the
road rash (back, legs, arms) was the worst (middle of summer, lots of heat
and sweat) so I never noticed any pain at the fracture.  As a general rule
I don't take painkillers and would rather live with the pain than take drugs.
  - Eric 
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: aviator@athena.mit.edu (Joakim Karlsson)
Subject: Mountain Bike Magazines
Organization: Flight Transportation Associates, Cambridge, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:38:24 GMT

OK, so I'm now hooked on mountain biking and want to read as
much about it when I'm not out on the trails.  I'm looking
for a mountain bike magazine geared towards *recreational*
mountain biking.  My options:

Mountain Bike Action: Geared heavily towards high tech mountain
bikes and pro competition, but they do have good articles for
novices as well.  Rebelious and opinionated; entertaining (although
not always intentionally).  Hard core mountain bike enthusiasts.
[They have a $25 subscription price for 24 issues which I could not
refuse, so I'm already getting this].  Lots of advertising.

Mountain Biking [?]: Geared towards competition, didn't inspire
me, but I've only paged through it.

Dirt Rag: Black and white, don't know much about it, but didn't
seem to have many articles geared towards recreational riding.

Bicycle Guide: Not a mountain bike magazine, but reflects the
current make-up of the market (51% mountain bikes).  I bought
one issue, and it seemed pretty good, but still not geared towards
mountain biking.  Relatively little advertising.

Bicycling plus Mountain Bike: Bycycling is an entertaining magazine with
a little bit for everyone, including recreational mountain bikers.
I read this at the librar; unfortunately they don't get the "Mountain
Bike" supplement, is this any good?  Subscription price is a bit
steep ($29.95 for 10 issues, but you get 2 magazines essentially).  Any
way to just get the Mountain Bike insert?  Bicyling magazine itself
is more geared towards road bikes.

Mountain and City Biking [?]: Know nothing about it, I can't find it at
any news stands or bike stores around here.

What does the net recommend?  Thanks!  ...Joakim
--
Joakim Karlsson            | aviator@athena.mit.edu
Flying Fanatic in Training | Air: PP-ASEL  CAP: Freedom 110 Mobile  FCC: N1JHW
                 "Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth
                And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings"
From: rhlu@ux5.lbl.gov (richard lu)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: HYBRID BIKES
Date: 27 Aug 1992 23:48:19 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: rhlu@ux5.lbl.gov (richard lu)
NNTP-Posting-Host: ux5.lbl.gov



|>My riding companions
|> average around 15-17 mph, and I can just keep up.  If I switch to a
|> hybrid, will I notice a big difference in my ability to keep up?

From my experience, yes.  I once went riding with my friend and his dad.
My friend rode a true MTB (heavy, 26" wheels), his dad rode a true road-
bike (Trek 2300, which is carbon fibered and runs on 27" wheels, I think),
and I used a hybrid (with 700c wheels, Cr-Mo frame).

We all carried computers that day, and we all went down a steep hill 
together.  After the ride, we all compared our max speed (which we assumed
was achieved during the steep descent).  The road bike hit 36, my hybrid
hit 33, and the MTB maxxed out at 30.  I thought this was quite indicative
of the three kinds of bikes.  Of course, I'm not presenting this info as
being all scientific and all, but something to be taken with a grain of NaCl.

Personally, I love my hybrid.  Although every bob and his uncle tells me I
should be riding a road bike, I can't imagine riding in the "drop" position.
I like being upright (and being able to shift without reaching down towards
the tube).  Also, I ride in a very hilly area, so I do _alot_ of shifting.
Sure, the MTB-style handlebar that originally came with my hybrid nearly
broke my back on long rides...so I chucked it in favor of AT-4 bars.  All
better now  :)   Besides, now that I'm bike-commuting more now, I find myself
enjoying the stability my hybrid offers, yet it is still light enough ( ~26
lbs.) for me to ride easily and to carry up/down stairs.

Oh yeah...hybrids only cost 1/2 as much as a "good" road bike, and about
the same as your "avg" MTB, but you can ride wherever you want (assuming
you're like me:  too chicken to go on loose gravel and too wimpy to go
near 40 mph).  ;)  I've done all my riding on paved roads, except for once,
when I did a stint on a firetrail (the bike was coated with a fine layer
of dust afterwards, but it carried me like a champ).  Did I fail to say
I love my hybrid?  ;)

-rich
Happy Cycling, all!  "AND _HEY!_ Be careful out there.

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: weird@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (john.t.erhardt)
Subject: extinction (was: Re: Saddle sores)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 13:58:05 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.193157.26001@Happy-Man.com> Joshua_Putnam@happy-man.com writes:
>In <0095FEC4.E9C47820@FHYDRA.FYSEL.UNIT.NO> dahls@fhydra.dnet.unit.no (Joern Yngve Dahl-Stamnes) writes:
>
>At least in the U.S., there are still plenty of real
>chamois-padded shorts available.  The trend does seem to
>favor synthetic chamois.
>
>Performance mailorder sells several house-brand styles of
>shorts with the option of real chamois.  It looks like
>these are only available in black, not fancy colors,
>suggesting that real chamois may be headed the way of
>friction shifting and leather saddles.
>
>-- 

Wait a minute.  Who ever said leather saddles are dissapearing.
I have a Turbo special on my bike, the standard when it comes to saddles.
In the Cannondale catalog the top few bikes hjave leather saddles.
It only the cheaper ones, where maybe they're trying to save some money,
that have gel/lycra or lycra only saddles.  I think the same goes for Trek
and a bunch of other companies.  
What about the Flite saddle?  That's leather, and it's pretty new.  So
are a bunch of other saddles that have come out in the past year.s

As for friction shifting it's never going to totally disappear.
In a race suppose you flat and get a new wheel.  What if it's not the same
as your old one? Then your index shifting won't work.  Most USCF teams
can't afford for every to use the same eequipment.  Even the pros in Europe,
who either use Shimano, Campy, or Mavic, might get a wheel from neutral
support which is usually Mavic.  That's just one example, and I know
that not everybody races.  
Ok fine what if your out riding and you drivetrain isn't up to par.
Are you going to go right home and fix it then continue your ride?
No, your going to put it in friction mode and keep riding.
This is why I would never get STI shifters.  Ther's no friction option.
If those things aren't set just right all the time, you can't ride.
I don't know if Campy's Ergo levers have frition.

REAL (tm)Cycling shorts are either going to be black black or black.
Maybe they'll  have a colored stripe down each side but that's usually
for advertising a sponsor or team name.  Then there's the jean shorts.
Hey does anyone have a pair?  I think they look cool, but I don't own
a pair.  If shorts do come in some other color, they probably are also
made cheaply and have an inaduquate chamios (syn or not) or not at all.
By the way, if you ever show up to a race in something othe than black 
shorts, you'll probably get laughed off the start line.

I realize there's a lot of tradition in cycling, and people like me
saying it has to be done this way.  Usually theres a reason behind everything
though.  I probably will always wear black shorts, so I have a place to wipe
my hands if they get greasy.

John

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: s882916@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au (Vikki POLLARD)
Subject: bike messengers
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.
Date:  3 Sep 92 08:38:41 GMT
Keywords: australian bicycle messenger

I'm a bicycle courier in Melbourne, Australia- a really wet and smelly one at the moment- and I'd love to hear from other messengers/couriers anywhere. How do  you keep dry? What do you ride? Any tips, stories, ideas? I'll gladly tell you all sorts of stuff about the couriers life in Melbourne- although I can't tell you how to keep your butt dry. Thats a trick I haven't quite mastered. Here is my address to send me stuff or post to this group.   s882916@disinformation.rmit.bf.oz.au s
From: shenry@cs.rice.edu (Sam Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: Hybrid Bikes?
Date: 2 Sep 1992 18:47:19 GMT
Organization: Rice University, Houston

>In article <Btv365.4IM@rice.edu> shenry@cs.rice.edu (Sam Henry) writes:
>>[riding off-road with road tires]
>>would you believe 25 mm?  Slicks!  On a Bianchi road bike?
>>
>>Yes we have no mountain bikes today.

In article <1992Sep1.164843.1794@sun44.synercom.hounix.org> maxwell@sun44.synercom.hounix.org (Allan Maxwell) is content-ious:

>No I would not -- Not anywhere close to Rice U., where your posting
>seems to have originated:^)  

Not the limit of my universe.

>If you really want to test your assertion, then try
>Cambodia trail (not to be confused with Ho-Chi-Min trail) at Memorial
>Park. 

Hardly to be touted as the nth degree of difficulty or challenge or
anything else related to off-pavement riding.

There is stiffer stuff to be found around Canyon Lake (vic. New
Brunafels), Garner State Park (vic. Leakey), and Towne Lake, for
Pete's sake (vic. Austin).


-- 
sam henry <shenry@rice.edu>
Wanna ride?
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: fraser@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Fraser Wilson)
Subject: Re: Cycling Gives Me A Neck Ache -- Recommendations??
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:17:21 GMT

M23231@mwvm.mitre.org writes:

>A recumbent is a bicycle on which you ride in a supine position. It is like
>sitting in an easy chair--maybe a recliner--pedaling away with your neck in a n
>ormal position instead of cocked backwards straining to see the road ahead. You
>sit cradled in a sort of mesh bucket seat with your feet about in line with you
>r waist height-wise. See the FAQ for more about them. It sounds like your best
>solution to me.

While a recumbent is a lovely way to ride, they're not so good at climbing,
they're rather pricey and if you want to do any racing, you pretty much
have to have a standard bike.  Does anyone know of organised recumbent
races?  What about recumbent races in Oz?

Fraser.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: pete@pez.csd.sgi.com (Pete Sullivan)
Subject: Re: Cycling Gives Me A Neck Ache -- Recommendations??
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:41:01 GMT

I have the same problem.  

The neck muscles have to do more work to hold your head up when
you lean forward.

What about raising the handlebar position ? (Or different handle bars)
If you're doing serious racing, this may not be an option, but
if your riding casually....


In <PHILG.92Aug25152632@zug.ai.mit.edu> philg@zurich.ai.mit.edu (Philip Greenspun) writes:


>In article <1992Aug25.012051.18138@indetech.com> lzs@indetech.com writes:

>   I have a problem that is interfering with my enjoyment of cycling. If
>   I cycle for more than about 2 hours, my neck and (esp) shoulder muscles
>   start to KILL me!! And for the next several days, I have to take anti-
>   inflammatories and pain killers. Not good!!!
--
Pete Sullivan 		
Customer Support	
Silicon Graphics			pete@sgi.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: starkid@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Lance Sanders)
Subject: Re: Hints on commuting by bike
Organization: EnviraForm
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:05:36 GMT
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On Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:19:01 GMT, miket@unislc.uucp (Michael Thompson),
in Message-ID: <1992Aug31.211901.9888@unislc.uucp> writes:

>>The most effective deodorant you can use is a mineral crystal/stone; 
                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>I've never heard of this.  What is it, how does it work, and where are they 
>available? 


   I'll list the info from an inclosed card that came with my rock:

   "Nature's Pure Crystal Deodorant is composed of natural mineral salts 
normally found in our bodies. The possibility of allergic reaction is 
extremely remote. CONTAINS NO ALUMINUM CHLORHYDRATE.
    The ingredients work by inhibiting the growth of bacteria that inhabit 
our skin and cause body odor."

   "Either the crystal or skin must be moist; it will not activate without 
the addition of water."

   PRODUCT OF THAILAND
   HarGen Distributing Inc. 
   308 N. 56th Street
   Phoenix, Arizona 85034
   (602) 275-2029


   One thing I liked about this brand, is the replacement policy. If you 
break the stone (fairly easy to do), you can mail the remaining pieces in 
(plus $3.95) and get a new crystal.

[the whole problem could be avoided if the manufacturers embedded a thin 
 nylon string in the rock, so you could wrap it around your wrist in case 
 of a drop] 

   As I mentioned before, the crystals are quite effective. I've showered 
and applied it in the am, worked-out w/ weights and a hard bike ride (90 
min. total) in the pm, cooled-down and could redress with absolutely no 
underarm or crotch odor.

   They can be found at most health/sports stores. A large one will last 
you a year or more, assuming daily use.

---------
Lance "CarboMeister" Sanders
starkid@ddsw1.MCS.COM / GE Mail: L.Sanders6 / Vox: (312) 667-5958
From: nho@bragg.bio.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: wrong way riding (was Re: Hints on commuting by bike?)
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:13:01 GMT
Reply-To: nho@bragg.bio.purdue.edu
Organization: Purdue University, Dept. of Biological Sciences

On a totally different subject, last night when I was out riding
I almost collided with two kids (~15 years old) cycling against traffic.

I wanted to say something like "wrong side of the street" but
I didn't want to sound obnoxious.  Suggestions on what to say?

I usually say something to the "wrong-way riders".  They are endangering
our safety and they need to know that such riding is unacceptable.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: bgeer@javelin.sim.es.com (Bob Geer)
Subject: Re: Cycling in the buff - Was: My Pants Leg is Dying...
Reply-To: bgeer@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 22:24:39 GMT

gorrie@hercules.cs.uregina.ca (Dennis Gorrie) writes:

>In article <2564@tau-ceti.isc-br.com> cecilw@access.isc-br.com (Cecil Williams) writes:
>>These days I never ride in long pants.  It's shorts, lycra, or nothing!

>It sounds like fun, but doesn't your but get chaffed after a while?

Not to mention what happens to your "or" & "and"...

(Hopefully your keyboard just ran out of t's.)
-- 
<> Bob `Bear' Geer | bgeer@beorn.sim.es.com                        |_______| <>
<>      lift-holic |  (this *often* works)        _O_    |___O___| | |_O_| | <>
<> Salt Lake City, | speaking only for myself, |_|_|_|_| | `'|`' |     |     <>
<>          Ootah  | one of my many tricks     |  / \  |    / \       / \    <>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: ronf@panther3.panther.mot.com (Ron Feigen)
Subject: Re: MTB: Re: Frequency of flats
Organization: Motorola Panther Project, Chandler, AZ
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:14:34 GMT

In article <JYM.92Sep1182448@remarque.mica.berkeley.edu> jym@mica.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer) writes:
>> Speaking of frequency of flats, it's gotten rather thorny on
>> the local trails lately.
>
>=o= I don't know where Netcom is (or where you are), but the 408
>area code gives me a pretty good idea.
>
>=o= I was having major problems with thorns when I lived (and
>biked, off-road and on) in Fremont (which is near the 408 area
>code).  The solution:  Mr Tuffys.
>
>=o= Since putting Mr Tuffys in my tires three years ago, I have
>had only one flat, and that was from a 1.5" nail that somebody
>had left pointing upwards in my path.
>    <_Jym_>



Do these tire liners add a lot of weight/rolling resistance? 

-- 

>
Ron Feigen
ronf@panther.mot.com