From: lemoine@chemvx.tamu.edu (Brett G. Lemoine)
Subject: Re: Subject?
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 04:18:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug23.211418.29467@ncsu.edu>, cmgrawbu@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRISTOPHER M GRAWBURG) writes...
} 
}To further explain and discuss the issue of homosexuality and to respond
}to some of the letters I have received.
} 
}I would first like to thank the people who have the ability to discuss
}something in a mature fashion when the sides are strongly opposed and
}I would ask the people who wish to hurl insults to please stop sending
}me letters.
} 
}1) Homosexuality is a choice, consciousness or sub-consciousness. At any rate
}   can be changed.

Asserting this as often as you like won't get us to accept it.

}1a) As someone metioned to me, social, conditions also affect a persons sexual
}    desires. A friend of mine is an admitted homosexual. It is quite obvious
}    where it comes from. He was picked on throughout shcool because of a
}    physical problem. Being in high school, and seeing people being picked
}    on girls had nothing to do with him. His parents, especially his father
}    had nothing to do with him when he was growing up, therefore he lacked
}    a male figure. The only friends he had were younger boys (6 years younger)
}    who accepted him. My friend needed someone to have a relationship with
}    and that was all that was there.
} 
}    Now that he is 22, he is coming to terms with his childhood, although
}    he is still very bitter, and is moving away from homosexuality.
} 
}    It must also be stated that medicine has NOT PROVEN that homosexuality
}    is genetic. There is no stronger basis for that than there was that
}    oat bran lowered blood pressure. (Remember, at one time not long ago, that
}    was scientifically "proven" as well.)

I also have a few friends who claim to have turned to other men because of
some trauma. I have many more friends who say that they used to go out with
girls alot... it never felt right for them. Personally, I don't think it makes
much difference how people come to be homosexuals. Giving homosexuals equal
protection under the law is _not_ going to cause more people to be gay --
it will probably result in more people being truthful about their orientation,
but isn't that better than so many being forced to livce a lie?

}4) Homosexuals were the firing gun for AIDS.

and again, only in _this_ country.

}4a)  NOW, heterosexuals are as much to blame as homosexuals for the spread
}     of AIDS. Homosexuals are moer promiscous(sp) than heterosexuals, probably
}     b/c gay marraiges are not allowed. Nevertheless, it is this promescuity(sp)
}     that caused AIDS to spred so quickly

"Homosexuals are moer(sic.) promiscous(sic.)"? Hardly an accepted statment
regardless of how often the preachers shout it from the churches. From
personal observation, I'd say that _men_ tend to be more promiscuous (probably
from a long period of society winking at male infidelity while severly
punishing similar actions by women) so that when you have two men in the same
relationship, there would likely tend to be more acceptance of straying. That's
no great moral statment... it's math. Also, what so many anti-gay-rights
spokespersons seem to convieniently forget is that lesbians have almost no
chance of contrating AIDS, and by the same argument as above, I'd surmise
that lesbian couples are probably more faithful than heterosexuals. If you
are _really_ concerned about the spread of AIDS, I suggest you attack the
_actual_ behaviors that pass the disease: unprotected sex, promiscuity, and
shared needles... the orientation of the person that has or passes AIDS is
hardely relavant.

}5) Looking at the make up of a man and a woman, it is quite apparent that they
}    were made to go together sexually. Not so with male-male or female-female.
} 
}5a)  I was referring to sexual compatibility as far as intercourse in concerned.
}     It is quite apparent that the male penis has a purpose, that is to fit
}     into the female vagina. 
} 
}Someone also said that no one knows the reason God made people homosexual.
}My point is this: he obviously didn't make them that way--if he did-- why
}is it spoken against in the Bible?

No one knows _that_ God made homosexuals. No one _knows_ that God exists no
matter how much so many people believe. Regardless, religion has absolutly
_no_ place in legsilation. There is a constitutional dictate separating church
and state. What you believe, or even argue for on a moral basis is not
interesting to me... what is being legislated is.

}If I missed a point that some one asked me and you'd like a responce,
}please post again. As you can imagine----I got a lot of mail from this.

and for good reason. You have still failed to give a good reason why
homosexuals are being discriminated against legally. As you hinted at,
then skirted above, giving homosexuals legal status as couples might
help in giving another good reason for people to make long term commitments
to those they love.

}Chris
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