HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jbs@watson.ibm.com
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 13:56:48 EST
Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks
Subject: lorenz.c (was Alpha, Risc/6000, HP benchmarks)

         Steve Thompson posted:
>Having just received a DEC 3000/400-AXP, I have had time to run one
>benchmark. This is written in C, and solves the lorenz equations
>using a Runge-Kutta 4 algorithm. Here are the CPU times, using the
>highest optimization level in each case, on some machines that we
>have:
and
>The compiler for the RS6000 should have been XLC 1.2, not XLF 2.2. I
>can also add a time for the RS6000-350: 10.74 seconds.
         You are not compiling this optimally for the RISC/6000.  Adding
-Q (to enable inlining) improves the 550 time from 10.74 seconds to 1.60
seconds (real time).  Adding -qhsflt as well (changes /3. to *(1./3.))
further improves the time to 1.31 seconds (but changes the answers
slightly).
                          James B. Shearer
Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks
From: rajiv@random.oerth (Rajiv Thomas - Sun Ottawa SE)
Subject: LINPACK1000 benchmarks	
Reply-To: rajiv@random.oerth
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:21:10 GMT


Does anyone know of a ftpsite that has listings of recent benchmarks
using SPEC92_int, SPEC92_fp, and especially, LINPACK1000 performance
benchmarks?

-Thanks in advance,
Rajiv 
Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks
From: daya@ncb.gov.sg (Thayalam Chinnayya)
Subject: Benchmarking software
Keywords: software benchmarking
Organization: National Computer Board, Singapore
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 02:55:28 GMT

Hi people,

	I need more information on the following benchmark software. Anyone
who has a write-up on them could please mail a copy to me. Also I need to know
who are the distributors for the software in this part of this region ( I live
in Singapore). Any help would be very much appreciated. Thank you.

1. Qaplus 5.03
2. Winbench
3. Benchmark
4. Wintach
5. Landmark 
6. Coretest
7. Checkit

PS : I understand that most of these s/w are shareware. Anyone got any idea 
where I can the latest versions from ?

Name 	 : Thayalam s/o Chinnayya Pillai
Org 	 : National Computer Board, Singapore
Internet : daya@ncb.gov.sg
IDNET    : chinnaya@ncboa
Tel      : (65) 7720281
Fax      : (65) 7790519
Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks
From: Mark Kovarski <kovarski@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Alpha benchmarks vs other
Organization: ZOOiD BBS
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 17:06:25 GMT


According to the July issue of "IEEE Spectrum," Digital's Alpha running at
200 MHz produces 400 MIPS peak or 200 Mflops. IBM's RIOS (32-Bit) at 50 MHz
produces 200 MIPS or 100 Mflops. I don't know why they include MIPS since
there are a number of manufacturers who do not use this cathegory any more
(Motorola, for one, does not use any longer).

Mark K.
From: Thomas.Herlyn@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Thomas Herlyn)
Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks
Subject: Source for KhornerStones
Date: 21 Dec 92 13:57:04 GMT
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany

In an info from Silicon Graphics i read about an application oriented
benchmark called 'KhornerStones'. It tests CPU-, memory and IO- per-
formance. Does anybody know where I can get the sourcecode for it ?
Is it for free ?

       Thomas Herlyn
Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks
From: eugene@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: [l/m 12/1/92] TPC Transaction Processing Council   (21/28) c.be FAQ
Keywords: business, online transactions processing, database,
Organization: NAS Program, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 12:25:07 GMT
Reply-To: eugene@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)

21	TPC						<This panel>
22
23
24
25	Ridiculously short benchmarks
26	Other miscellaneous benchmarks
27
28	References
1	Introduction to FAQ chain and netiquette
2
3	PERFECT
4
5	Performance Metrics
6	Temporary scaffold of New FAQ material
7	Music to benchmark by
8	Benchmark types
9	Linpack
10
11	NIST source and .orgs
12	Benchmark Environments
13	SLALOM
14
15	12 Ways to Fool the Masses with Benchmarks
16	SPEC
17	Benchmark invalidation methods
18
19	WPI Benchmark
20	Equivalence

OLTP (On-Line Transaction Processing): Jim Gray, DEC, was Tandem, was IBM
	Has a new book out on the subject.  Also O. Serlin follows this.

TPC A and TPC B benchmarks are well documented, audited by outside firms,
and the results kept by the Transaction Processing Council.
The TPC administrator is:

   Shanley Public Relations
   777 N. First Street
   Suite 600
   San Jose, CA 95112-6311

TPC/A TPC/B
Location: FTP from DG.COM (128.222.1.2), login anonymous, directory tpc.

Name            Description

Results-text    Results spreadsheet
                (format: tab separated text)
                (size: 15KB)

Results-sylk    Results spreadsheet
                (format: SYLK spreadsheet interchange format)
                (size: 26KB)

TPCARev1.1      TPC Benchmark A Standard Specification Rev 1.1
                (format: Macintosh Microsoft Word)
                (size: 153KB)

TPCARev1.1-PS   TPC Benchmark A Standard Specification Rev 1.1
                (format: Postscript)
                (size: 816KB)

TPCARev1.1-RTF  TPC Benchmark A Standard Specification Rev 1.1
                (format: Rich Text Format - interchange format)
                (size: 243KB)

TPCBRev1.1      TPC Benchmark B Standard Specification Rev 1.1
                (format: Macintosh Microsoft Word)
                (size: 126KB)

TPCBRev1.1-PS   TPC Benchmark B Standard Specification Rev 1.1
                (format: PostScript)
                (size: 993KB)

TPCBRev1.1-RTF  TPC Benchmark B Standard Specification Rev 1.1
                (format: Rich Text Format - interchange format)
                (size: 194KB)

As for the code, the benchmark specs have sample SQL codes, but they may not
help you very much. Every implementation is going to be different. 

After all:
	what is a "transaction?" (but an arbitrary definition.)

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From: olin@vger.cheme.cornell.edu (Steve Thompson)
Subject: Re: Alpha, RISC/6000, HP benchmarks
Reply-To: olin@vger.cheme.cornell.edu
Organization: Chemical Engineering, Cornell University, NY
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 11:37:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.204830.12667@zooid.guild.org>, Mark Kovarski <kovarski@zooid.guild.org> writes:
>
>Does anybody have a list that contains the benchmark results of the DEC Alpha
>vs. other processors? I want to see how it performs against other high-end
>processors offered by HP, Sun, IBM etc. Also, does anyone know the base-price
>for a Alpha based system and the price of the equivalent from the other
>manufacturers?
>
>Mark K.

Having just received a DEC 3000/400-AXP, I have had time to run one
benchmark. This is written in C, and solves the lorenz equations
using a Runge-Kutta 4 algorithm. Here are the CPU times, using the
highest optimization level in each case, on some machines that we
have:

IBM RS6000-530H, AIX 3.2, XLF 2.2:		13.29 seconds

VAX 4000-500, VMS 5.5-1, FORT 5.8:		 9.85 seconds

HP 9000/720, HPUX 8.07:				 7.55 seconds

DEC 3000/400, OpenVMS AXP 1.0, DEC C 1.1:	 2.79 seconds

I like my alpha box! BTW, delivery time of the alpha after receipt of
order by my local DEC office was 9 days.

-Steve

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Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks
From: caldana@ing.puc.cl (Claudio Aldana)
Subject: q
Organization: Pontificia Universidad Catolica de Chile
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:31:26 GMT


Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks
From: Brandon.Vanevery@launchpad.unc.edu (Brandon Vanevery)
Subject: 486 DX2/66-based system benchmarks?
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 17:53:57 GMT


I'm looking for benchmarks of 486 DX2/66 systems from Dell, Gateway, and
Zeos.  Something like PC Benchmarks 7.0 would do wonderfully.  Anyone have
such info?

Brandon Van Every

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Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks
From: eugene@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: [l/m 4/28/92] References	(28/28)		c.be FAQ
Keywords: who, what, where, when, why, how
Organization: NAS Program, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 12:25:12 GMT
Reply-To: eugene@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)

28	References						<This panel>
1	Introduction to FAQ chain and netiquette
2	Benchmarking Concepts
3	PERFECT
4
5	Performance Metrics
6	Temporary scaffold of New FAQ material
7	Music to benchmark by
8	Benchmark types
9	Linpack
10
11	NIST source and .orgs
12	Measurement Environments
13	SLALOM
14
15	12 Ways to Fool the Masses with Benchmarks
16	SPEC
17	Benchmark invalidation methods
18
19	WPI Benchmark
20	Equivalence
21	TPC
22
23
24
25	Ridiculously short benchmarks
26	Other miscellaneous benchmarks
27

References
	Pending publication of Miya, Saavadera-Barerra, and Smith.

@article{LeCl82,
author="H. M. Levy and D. W. Clark",
title="On the Use of Benchmarks for Measuring System Performance",
journal="Computer architecture news",
month=dec,
year=1982}

@article{CoHw91,
author="T. M. Conte and W. W. Hwu",
title="Benchmark characterization",
journal="IEEE Computer",
month=jan,
pages="48-56",
year=1991}

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From: eugene@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: [l/m 3/17/92] PERFECT CLUB (3/28)	c.be FAQ
Keywords: who, what, where, when, why, how
Organization: NAS Program, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 12:25:09 GMT
Reply-To: eugene@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)

3	PERFECT	Club/Suite 				<This panel>
4
5	Performance Metrics
6	Temporary scaffold of New FAQ material
7	Music to benchmark by
8	Benchmark types
9	Linpack
10
11	NIST source and .orgs
12	Measurement Environments
13	SLALOM
14
15	12 Ways to Fool the Masses with Benchmarks
16	SPEC
17	Benchmark invalidation methods
18
19	WPI Benchmark
20	Equivalence
21	TPC
22
23
24
25	Ridiculously short benchmarks
26	Other miscellaneous benchmarks
27
28	References
1	Introduction to FAQ chain and netiquette
2	Benchmarking Concepts

PERFECT
(post-facto acronynm:
PERFormance Evaluation for Cost-effective Transformations)
Contact:	J. Larson (jlarson@csrd.uiuc.edu)
		Center for Supercomputing Research and Development
		305 Talbot Laboratory
		104 South Wright Street
		Urbana, Illinois 61801

PERFECT is a UI research effort oriented to supercomputers and parallel
processing.  It seeks real applications.

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Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks
From: Mark Kovarski <kovarski@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: SPECmarks....
Organization: ZOOiD BBS
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 22:07:32 GMT


I have read a few results about the PowerPC 601 processor, the one developed
by Motorola and IBM. The SPECmarks are based on the SPECmark '89 benchmarks.
I would like to know, is there any way to convert SPECmarks to MIPS or other
unit. I would like to know how fast the processor is when compared to others.
Here are the results:

50 MHz PowerPC 601 Processor  Integer Performance= 40
                              Floating-Point Performance= 60
66 MHz PowerPC 601 Processor  Integer Perf.= 50
                              Floating P.= 80

The claim that those figures are equivalent to the 66 MHz Pentium came
forward. Can anyone expand on that and ellaborate on this matter?

Best Regards,
Mark K.
From: uzun@crash.cts.com (Roger Uzun)
Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks
Subject: Re: Alpha, RISC/6000, HP benchmarks
Date: 31 Dec 92 04:50:07 GMT
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA

In article <1992Dec30.113719.4722@tc.cornell.edu> olin@vger.cheme.cornell.edu writes:
>Having just received a DEC 3000/400-AXP, I have had time to run one
>benchmark. This is written in C, and solves the lorenz equations
>using a Runge-Kutta 4 algorithm. Here are the CPU times, using the
>highest optimization level in each case, on some machines that we
>have:
>
>IBM RS6000-530H, AIX 3.2, XLF 2.2:		13.29 seconds
>
>VAX 4000-500, VMS 5.5-1, FORT 5.8:		 9.85 seconds
>
>HP 9000/720, HPUX 8.07:				 7.55 seconds
>
>DEC 3000/400, OpenVMS AXP 1.0, DEC C 1.1:	 2.79 seconds

I ran the lorenz pgm mentioned above on my Amiga 4000 which
uses a 68040 at 25 Mhz, using SAS/C 6.2 and on a 486/66DX2
using Unix System V (SCO) cc (cc -o newlorenz -O newlorenz.c)

Amiga 4000 : 37 seconds
486/66DX2  : 35 seconds.

Neither is much of a workstation, I guess.

-Roger
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NET: uzun@crash.cts.com
From: tim@Apple.COM (Tim Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks
Subject: Re: SPECmarks....
Date: 31 Dec 92 00:06:13 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Dec24.220732.11056@zooid.guild.org> kovarski@zooid.guild.org (Mark Kovarski) writes:

|I have read a few results about the PowerPC 601 processor, the one developed
|by Motorola and IBM. The SPECmarks are based on the SPECmark '89 benchmarks.
|I would like to know, is there any way to convert SPECmarks to MIPS or other
|unit. I would like to know how fast the processor is when compared to others.
|Here are the results:
|
|50 MHz PowerPC 601 Processor  Integer Performance= 40
|                              Floating-Point Performance= 60
|66 MHz PowerPC 601 Processor  Integer Perf.= 50

Note that these performance figures are very conservative *estimates*,
based upon simulation and existing RS/6000 compilers.  More realistic
SPEC results should be forthcoming as the parts are built into real
systems...



-- 
	-- Tim Olson
	Apple Computer Inc. / Somerset
	(tim@apple.com)
Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks
From: johnn@eskimo.com (John Navitsky)
Subject: Re: [l/m 12/1/92] TPC Transaction Processing Council   (21/28) c.be FAQ
Keywords: business, online transactions processing, database,
Organization: =>ESKIMO NORTH (206) 367-3837 SEATTLE, WA.<=
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 01:09:57 GMT

In article <...> eugene@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) writes:

[...]

>TPC/A TPC/B
>Location: FTP from DG.COM (128.222.1.2), login anonymous, directory tpc.
>
>Name            Description
>
>Results-text    Results spreadsheet
>                (format: tab separated text)
>                (size: 15KB)

Hello, I tried ftp'ing to DG.COM and could not find this file.  The rest were
there but this is the one I really wanted.  Anyone know whats up?

Thanks!

[...]

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From: hollaar%basset.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Lee Hollaar)
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk,alt.suit.att-bsdi
Subject: Re: BSDI lawsuit
Keywords: copyright, notice
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:31:53 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

In article <bhayden.725648522@teal> bhayden@teal.csn.org (Bruce Hayden) writes:
>hollaar%basset.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Lee Hollaar) writes:
>>Not quite so simple.  It depends on two facts -- when was the code first
>>fixed in a tangible medium and whether the code was published.  Publication
>>generally means sale or other transfer of ownership, rental, lease, or
>>lending.  It would probably not be code licensed with restrictions on
>>further distribution.
>> ...
>>So, if 32V is an unpublished work, it is likely protected either under
>>state copyright law (if written prior to 1978) or federal law, even if
>>it has no notice.
>
>Again, I think that you are too quick to jump to the conclusion that
>the work was "unpublished". 

Actually, I didn't jump to the any conclusion, but was pointing out that
just because there was no copyright notice doesn't mean that it isn't
protected by copyright.

I agree (and stated) that the situation is fact-intensive, depending not
only on the date of the writing to determine the applicable law but also
whether its distribution under the license agreement or otherwise
constituted a publication.
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From: an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne)
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk,alt.amateur-comp,soc.culture.usa,alt.activism
Subject: Re: [misc.activism.progressive]  Clinton Office Requests Comments
Date: 26 Dec 1992 23:03:58 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Distribution: inet
Reply-To: an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, ae547@yfn.ysu.edu (Ronda Hauben) says:

>
>In a previous article, Barry.Kapke@f33.n125.z1.fidonet.org (Barry Kapke) says:
>
>>Hello Chris!
>>
>>Monday December 21 1992 13:48, Chris Fedde wrote to All:
>>
>> CF> I take it from this post that our president elect's transition team
>> CF> does not have an email address?
>>
>>Of course, they do.
>>
>>Jock Gill
>>Public Access Email
>>Office of the President-Elect
>>75300.3115@compuserve.com
>>
>>The Clinton E-Mail Team was incredibly effective as a two-way feedback loop in the election campaign. Hopefully, the groundwork laid will expand and we can get email access to ALL government representatives. <grin>
>>
>>Ciao.
>>Barry (1:125/33, 8:914/133, 88:881/172, 93:9050/0, 94:5100/1, 96:101/33)
>>
>>--  
>>uucp: uunet!m2xenix!puddle!125!33!Barry.Kapke
>>Internet: Barry.Kapke@f33.n125.z1.fidonet.org
>
>Is there any E-Mail address for Congress? I was told by Senator Paul
>Simon's Office that The U.S. Congress has email communication 
>internally among Congress but that the public is NOT ALLOWED to
>have access to it.
>I want to be able to send E-Mail to Simon's Office. Does anyone
>know of any way to do so?
>It seems archaic that there is no electronic access via email for
>the public to the U.S. Congress. 
>-- 
>Ronda Hauben                    email address:ae547@yfn.ysu.edu
>Amateur Computerist Newsletter              or
>P.O. Box 4344                   rhauben@heartland.bradley.edu
>Dearborn, MI 48126
>

        Archaic?  Typical is what I would say. 
        Why would congress want to deal with the people?


Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
From: dman@netcom.com (Dallman Ross)
Subject: Re: WELL anonymity policy
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Distribution: inet
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 03:22:25 GMT

Steve Pope (spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu) wrote:

: <Mega-flames deleted>
:
: Discouraged to the extent that well below 1% of WELL subscribers
: have pseudonymous privileges.  To me this is the same
: as "unavailable".
:
: <etc.>

Steve, just why in the hell are you getting so worked up over this?
I've been on The WELL for 3 years (come March), and I can safely say
that this is not a problem.  I have never seen a serious controversial
discussion about this issue on The WELL; and, believe me, the (over
6,000, now) members do indeed argue and make controversies over just
about anything you can imagine.

So, what would you *like* the WELL management to do?  If Jerry Garcia
wants to troll around on The WELL and discuss guitars or family or
cooking in (as jfw@neuro.duke.edu so articulately put it) the rare kind
of quietude that just about only this medium can allow, and if he's not
yanking people's chains online while doing this, what's the problem?
WELL staff don't keep a secret of the fact that some -- what, handful?
Handful-and-a-half? -- of these otherwise-very-recognizable names are
around.

I don't get what you want to have happen.  Suppose this hypothetical
Jerry Garcia called up the WELL office and said he wanted an account,
but really didn't want to be hounded by virtually-panting fans every
time he'd try to post to a conference.  Suppose he asked for a
"celebrity" account, as we might as well call them.  Do you want
management to say, "No, sorry, Jer, ol' buddy, no-can-do -- you'll just
have to go over to Compu$erve, or AmeriKa-Online, or (God forbid)
Plodigy.  Can't have you rubbing virtual elbows with the plebes, after
all."  Wouldn't the WELL community be the loser in that scenario?  Part
of what makes The WELL a different (better) place than USENET or CI$ is
that it does draw an extraordinarily high number of proven-creative
people.  The signal-to-noise ration is high.

Anyway, I can name 20-or-so honest-to-God celebs who are online there in
the emporer's new clothes, as it were; i.e., fully revealed.

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