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From: phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson)
Subject: Re: AM/PM boundaries
Organization: Famed Parquet Floor
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 00:46:52 GMT

In article <1992Mar31.231251.24627@anasaz> morris@anasaz (Bob Morris) writes:
>
>I'm a [non-European] computer person,
>but I prefer am/pm/m/n  (midnight/noon if you haven't been following)

You may prefer it, but it's wrong, and if you use those abbreviations you
will confuse people.

The 24-hour clock solves all the problems, but Americans in general seem
uncomfortable with it.  Perhaps the safest solution for AM/PM times is to
always use 11:59 or 12:01 -- better to lose a minute than twelve hours.

Phil

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From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (99E99)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: PepsiCo UL
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:01:26 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; Open Access Computing


In article <1992Apr9.113711.29249@alf.uib.no> paulo@eik.ii.uib.no (Paul Olav Tvete stipendiat) writes:
}When Pepsi Free (without caffeine) was introduced, they switched over to it. Suddenly
}everyone experienced caffeine withdrawal symptoms; workers were sleeping over their
}machines, executives fell asleep during meetings.

	[Helpful hint.. Please try to keep your lines 80 chars or less]

	Usually, the biggest symptom of caffeine withdrawl is a MASSIVE 
headache..  It might make you more sleepy for a day or so, but not a long
time.
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From: pfalstad@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Paul Falstad)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Falling Bullets
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:31:47 GMT
Organization: League For Fighting Chartered Accountancy
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU

billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) wrote on Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:35:30 GMT:
>Which goes to show that speed of sound in a substance is density related.
>Within limiting values, temperature has little effect on density for solids
>or liquids. This is not true for air - assuming the air is allowed to
>expand/contract with temperature changes, temperature changes have a great
>effect on the density.  However, this does not change the fact that the
>speed of sound in air is related to its density - not its temperature.

Right, according to my physics book ("University Physics", 2nd ed, Sears,
Zemansky, and Young), p487:

"c = sqrt(B/rho) (longitudinal wave).  The speed of propagation of a
longitudinal pulse in a fluid therefore depends only on the bulk modulus
[reciprocal of the compressibility] and the density of the medium."

For air, the bulk modulus is equal to 1.4 times the pressure, and the
density can be approximated using the ideal gas law.  Thus, we can write
the speed of sound in air as sqrt(1.4RT/M), where R and M are constant;
so the speed of propagation is proportional to the square root of the
absolute temperature, if we assume air is an ideal gas.

Sorry to clutter up this newsgroup with citations. :-)

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From: morris@anasaz (Bob Morris)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Baby swimming UL (was Re: De-ionized water mishap)
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:14:28 GMT
Organization: Anasazi, Inc.  Phoenix, Az

A commonly believed UL about teaching babies to swim at a tender young
age is that there is a reflex action that causes them to close their
mouths when they are immersed so they don't swallow or inhale any water.
This reflex, the story goes, goes away after a few years, making it
harder to teach babies to swim.

The result is public pools full of moms (and sometimes dads) and little
(under one year) babies taking swimming lessons where the parents dunk
the babies and move them along under the water.

Conversly, I heard from a nurse that there is no such reflex and the
babies swallow enormous (for a baby) amounts of water during these lessons.
This can be fatal, as posters for the deionized water thread have stated.

Both are widely believed.  I suspect one is true and one is not, but I'm
not sure which is which.

Bob "don't drink the water and don't breath the air" Morris
aka morris@anasazi.com  (new address)
anasaz!morris@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (old address still works)
My opinions only, of course...
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: david.lloyd-jones@rose.uucp (david lloyd-jones)
Subject: Lemurs
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 11:11:43 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.2)


Date Entered: 04-06-92 22:27
F(>Subject: Lemurs

F(>Any variants on this out there?  Any other Lemur-related urban legends
F(>that anyone knows of?

In an article in about the Spring 1965 "Psychedelic Review," this Dr.
Timothy Leary of Harvard suggested that a human being who ingested LSD
might have brain function, and perhaps consciousness, resembling that of
a/the lemur.

In succeeding years there was widespread debate about whether this was
an argument for or against ingesting LSD.  However I do not know of
anyone actually questioning the suggestion itself.

                                        -dlj.
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From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (resU nwonknU ehT)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Japanese law monsters
Date: 17 Apr 92 12:22:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: darkstar.33161
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; Open Access Computing


In article <1992Apr17.091111.3384@rose.com> david.lloyd-jones@rose.com (david lloyd-jones) writes:
}All this crap about what the nasty Japanese do is the best candidate for
}Current Mother Lode of American urban legends.  They won't import
}anything.  (Hunh?  They're supposed to rush out and buy two ton cars
}with the steering wheels on the wrong side?)  They speak an impenetrable
}language.  (Actually an effective number of them speak English...)

	Well, this is getting too in depth for this newsgroup I guess...
but since nobody else seems to stay on the topic and serious, I won't bother
taking it to e-mail.. (In reference to the "I thought we wouldn't have to...."
zillions of posts)

	Rice, as one good example.  US Rice would be 1/10 the price of 
Japanese rice, even after shipping costs.. BUT NOOOOOOO.. they won't let it 
in..  (they harrassed/arrested/embarrassed (pick any/all) someone for even
_showing_ a bag of US rice at some kind of convention).

	I'm not saying I think any of them will _buy_ US cars.. But they
definitely do not play fair on letting the cars (or other foreign merchandise)
come into the country as easily as we let foreign stuff come in our country.
That's why I proposed the "Eye for an eye" law..  We behave with respect to
merchandise from a certain country exactly the way they behave to merchandise
from OUR country..  If they have big import taxes, we will have big import
taxes.

	I think it would _hella quickly_ improve the situation all around.

	But again, as I said before, it would never pass because it is
"unfair" and treats different countries differently, something we are probably
not allowed to do. (except in extreme conditions, like when the UN votes for
sanctions)
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From: dsc@gemini.tmc.edu (Doug S. Caprette Bldg. 28 W191 x3892)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Today's conspiracy theory
Keywords: that's an old joke, sonny.
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:38:03 GMT
Organization: NASA GSFC CDP VLBI

In article <uspam.702715034@mcl> uspam@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (Tom Maynard) writes:
>In <ku1q2tINN2ma@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> linden@positive.Eng.Sun.COM (Peter van der Linden) writes:
>
>...
>>---------------- start of today's conspiracy theory -------------------
>>I believe that the two principal causes of higher cancer rates are nuclear
>>radiation and chemicals in the food supply.
>
>One significant cause of "higher" incidence of cancer is the significant
>increase in life-span.  When people don't die of heart disease or tuberculosis
>or some other disease, you see cancer at later ages.  This doesn't mean that
>there _has_ to be an unnatural cause of this cancer, just that it was
>previously masked by early death.
>
Let's not forget the role that nicotine abuse plays here.  Although up to 
half the lung cancer from smoking is attributed to radiation exposure.
From: johana!tsw@apple.com (Tom Watson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Polio immunizations
Date: 17 Apr 92 02:22:57 GMT
Organization: FBN/GRQ Ink.

Just think today...
Instead of having Salk or Sabin vaccines (the shots are painful if you are 
a 5 year old kid!) today we would have a microprocessor controlled iron 
lung.  It would be micro size and everything.  Aren't lawyers and 
insurance companies wonderful.

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From: morris@anasaz (Bob Morris)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Whacky Flakey License plates
Keywords: licence
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:22:15 GMT
Organization: Anasazi, Inc.  Phoenix, Az

In article <1992Apr8.212355.17008@berlioz.nsc.com> worden@bouncer.nsc.com (Dennis Worden) writes:
>California license plates have "evolved" over the years...Prior to about
> 1958, the plates were ... black on yellow.  Around 1958... 
> the plates went to ... yellow on black (basically a color inversion).

And don't forget that sometime even earlier than that, the plates were
yellow on black background.  They underwent an inversion twice.

Bob "10-4 2150 bye" Morris
aka morris@anasazi.com  (new address)
anasaz!morris@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (old address still works)
My opinions only, of course...
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.mcdonalds
From: rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu (Eric Rescorla)
Subject: Re: McMouse!
Organization: Rescorla for himself.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 12:28:30 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.115705.4701@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au> jbrunton@esk (Jason Brunton) writes:
> Another gruesome tale from Maccas is that once a guy cooking burgers
>over the grill (217 Degrees C) slipped on a pickle and his hand went
>straight palm side down, onto the grill. His hand was also stuck but it 
>was removed more effectively using a meat pattie spatular. They shoved 
>his hand into the ice machine (-6 Degrees C) to ease the pain.  
>     But he live another day to cook a BIG MAC .      
Hmm....It's this sticking thing that surprises me....
Meat shouldn't stick that well to hot metal. Certainly, my hand didn't
stick too well when I thought it would be good to grab my motorcycle header
pipe.

Ekr "too stoopid to be alive."
-Ekr



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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Falling bullets on Marilyn's Parade
Organization: Hewlett-Parkard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 23:55:44 GMT

: >> >>[Personally I believe MvS is really a pseudonym Isaac Asimov, who 
: >> >Well MvS did marry Dr. Jarvik of the famed "Jarvik" heart.  
: >> One or two years ago a correspondent asked her how she got her appropriate
: >> surname.  She said that it was actually her husband's, that he was a Dutch
: >> businessman.
: >
: >I didn't know that Dr. Jarvik was a Dutch business man.
: 
: Well, people do get married twice.

Yep, and sometimes they get caught and arrested for bigamy.

Bill "Cheaper, but not more peaceful, by the dozen" Nelson
From: smb@ulysses.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Polio immunizations
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:37:35 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.205944.3429@anasaz>, morris@anasaz (Bob Morris) writes:
> I heard that the Sabin oral polio vaccine was a live virus and as such
> was contagious.  The Sabin vaccine is the one administered on sugar
> cubes.  If enough people in an area received the vaccine orally
> (75-80%?), they would pass it to the others so everyone would be
> vaccinated.

I believe that that's true.  In fact, there are several more facts and
factoids about the Sabin vs. Salk vaccines.  First, it's possible to
develop polio itself from the Sabin vaccine -- second-hand.  For example,
before my kids were given the vaccine, the doctor verified that no one
with a compromised immune system would be near them, as they would shed
live virus for a while, especially into their diapers.  The injected
Salk vaccine doesn't have this problem, since it uses a killed virus.
Public health authorities know this -- that is, they know that by
standardizing on the Sabin vaccine, they are, in a statistical sense,
causing a (very small) number of cases of polio.  However, I think that
the Sabin vaccine is more effective, and hence prevents a greater number.
There's also the effect that you noted -- that one can ``catch'' the
immunity.  This, too, prevents some number of cases.

Here's another polio story I heard -- that polio is a disease of improved
standards of cleanliness and hygiene.  In earlier times, kids would play
in the dirt a lot more, and be exposed to the virus in very low doses.
As a consequence, they built up a natural immunity to the disease.  In
the 20th century, cleanliness became a fad, depriving kids of this early
exposure, and putting them at risk from polio epidemics.
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From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: Pleonasm
Keywords: I don't read headings very carefully
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:58:36 GMT
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <ku6jr3INN72o@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> linden@positive.Eng.Sun.COM (Peter van der Linden) writes:
>Please write that in big letters in your
>red books and don't forget it.  PLEONASM, peons.

Look, Peter, if you're going to talk about pleonasms, do it in alt.sex.
This is a family newsgroup (it's true!  it's got a husband newsgroup and
two little baby newsgroups at home!)

-- Ted "Dave Barry also has two first names, so it's okay when I steal
   from him" Frank
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From: folse@crs.cl.msu.edu (Mark Folse)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: FCC Call letters
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:49:13 GMT
Reply-To: folse@crs.cl.msu.edu.UUCP (Mark Folse)
Organization: Michigan State University

The overlap of the TV audio band into the FM band also applies in the
U.S.  The audio signal for VHF Chanel 6 can also be received on a
standard FM receiver, at the low end of the band.

Mark "This is a silly thing to do to your name, isn't it" Folse                N
From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Genuine cow tipper
Date: 10 Apr 92 08:52:21 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

jrd5@po.CWRU.Edu (Jacob DeGlopper) writes:


>In a previous article, rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu (Eric Rescorla) says:

>>Target: A Cow (Never a BULL!!!!), asleep in the vertical position.
>>Action: Good running start if your small like me. Lower shoulder into
>>shoulder of cow (or rump if you prefer). Some people can simply approach
>>cow slowly and tip. Never hit cow in the midsection as ribs may be 
>>delicate (for the safety concerned tipper).
>>Result: Cow on ground in vertical position...many times STILL sleeping!
>>
>>Anne notes that it should read "horizontal" not "vertical."
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Why?  The given result sounds perfectly correct to me; you'll stand there
>looking like a fool while the cow stands there and sleeps on...

Aww! you've gone and spoiled it now.
I had this vision of a cow lying on it's back with its legs in the air
*STILL* sleeping, hence vertical.

Dave
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From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.science
Subject: Re: Bakker and LaRouche
Date: 11 Apr 92 23:21:17 GMT
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung) writes:
>>Now, is there any truth to the UL started by _The Nation_ that Bakker
>>and LaRouche *are* sharing the same cell?  What does LaRouche think of
>>Dershowitz defending Bakker?  Has anyone smuggled in a lemur to them?

>	Jim Bakker and Lyndon LaRouche *did* share the same cell.  However,
>after about three months, LaRouch asked to be transferred out.  Kinda tells
>you what kind of @$#^ Bakker was.

I would imagine that LaRouche would get tired of drinking coffee like
mad to stay awake, finally falling asleep, and waking up with a sore
ass.  But what if they moved him in with Dahmer?  Sore ass and a
missing ear...
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson)
Subject: Re: FCC Call letters
Organization: Famed Parquet Floor
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 23:15:15 GMT

In article <cfO602cs0fva01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> tjc50@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll) writes:

>Someone also asked if the assignment of "N" to the US has to do with the
>fact that aircraft numbers also begin with "N".  I doubt it.  All the
>aircraft call letters begin with K or W, too.  Unless I missed something
>in the list, "N" is restricted to amateur radio.  However, an alternate
>call sign for an "aircraft telephone"  is the registration number,
>preceded by the type of aircraft.

I've used "aircraft telephones" many times, and the registration number is
the expected ID.  If you're in N3FUK, you'll call the tower as "Cessna
three foxtrot uniform kilo" and the tower will, barring clashes, call you
as "foxtrot uniform kilo" from then on.  Commercial flights are called
by their companies and flight numbers, as "American two three niner".

If there's a K or W call, it's buried in the paperwork in the glove
compartment that nobody ever looks at.

I've seen movies where the plane identifies itself as "Cessna November
three foxtrot, etc" but never heard this on the air.

Of course, given the state of the liability laws, all this will become
obsolete as the planes wear out.

"Smilin'" Phil Gustafson
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From: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (JOSEPH T CHEW)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: other fun mistranslations..
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:08:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: dog.22587
Reply-To: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.198
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4

Comjohn@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Mr. John T Jensen) asks what you've always
wondered about low-riders:
>Why?

Well...I guess they think it's cool.  "They" being mostly urban
teens-and-twenties Hispanics, with some imitative blacks and Caucs.

For the benefit of the large international audience that plainly
doesn't know what the devil a low-rider is, we're talking about a
car lowered to within scant inches of the road, often fancifully
customized inside and out, sometimes equipped with a pneumatic
suspension that lets the driver make the car hop up and down, an
amazing sight.  Lately the fad has been to add a stereo system
optimized for thundering bass, and they go up and down the street 
emitting a bullfrog mating call of attitude and territory that can 
be heard for blocks around.

Large GM products from the 60s and 70s seem to predominate, but
we also see a lot of Japanese mini-pickups.  Many of them appear
to be shaded over towards the hot-rod/sports-car end of things
(with correspondingly vestigial utility functionality), whereas 
the low-rider cars often appear to be barely roadable.  For instance,
the trucks get wide performance tires and wheels, whereas the cars
get the smallest tires that the law allows.  The trucks often get
the sabre-saw-convertible treatment and/or a hydraulic strut that 
pushes up one side of the loadbed on command.

Some of the better low-rider mini-trucks are actually kinda neat,
but the look does not scale up gracefully.  A low-rider full-sized
American pickup somehow looks like it's sitting on concrete blocks
in somebody's front yard even when it's moving.  Fortunately, you
don't see many of them.

To each his own,
Joe "My car is shaded more towards the kids/dogs end of things" Chew
From: neil@robots.oxford.ac.uk (Neil Townsend)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: some old uls
Keywords: return of the canuck, eh?
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:02:23 GMT
Organization: Robotics Research Group, Engineering Science Dept, Oxford, UK.

Phil Gustafson writes:
>Reminds me of _The Salvation Army Song_.  I don't know who wrote it, but
>someone out there does:
>
>  We never eat cookies because they have yeast,
>  And one little bite turns a man into beast.
>  Oh, can you imagine a sadder disgrace,
>  Than a man in the gutter with crumbs on his face?
>
>  A-away, a-away, with rum, by gum,
>  With rum, by gum,
>  With rum, by gum,
>  A-away, a-away, with rum, by gum,
>  That's the song of the Salvation Arrr-Meee.
>
>Phil "Gimme another gallon of that OJ" Gustafson

I don't know if he was the original author, but my parents (age
disclaimer) have a recording by Mike Harding - a (northern) British
comedian - on which he sings the song Phil quotes. From what I can
remember it's a funny album. I also happen to know that he's written
at least three books:
	The Armchair Anarchists Almanac,
	You can see the angel's bum, Mrs ?,
	The Day the Martians landed in Huddersfield(?).

	For my money, the first is by far the funniest.	

ObUL Manufacturers of washing powders add chemicals to the powder
which makes the water go brown to give you the impression that your
washing has been really well cleaned.

Neil "Grammar? she's doing the washing sir." Townsend
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