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From: dlee@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (David Lee)
Subject: UC or not UC - NOT! (Should be: Class of '96) (Was: Andrea gets into Yale!)
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 12:19:38 GMT

In article <1gro9eINNrri@agate.berkeley.edu> wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell) writes:
>In article <1gr1ulINN7d3@athena.sdsu.edu> larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel) writes:
>>ROBERT MACKENNA (rjm1@acpub.duke.edu) wrote:
>>
>>>               but I was sure she'd be rejected so she could just
>>> "happen" to wind up at the University of California (a thinly-disguised
>>> Berkeley, I think)
>>
>>Fortunately it's not.
>>
>>Larry

It's not.  At least the "around campus" scenes are shots of buildings around
UCLA.  Besides, they called it something like Clarington Univ. or College, not
California.

>
>Larry:  :P
>
>By implication, University of California without a suffix to it like
>"Santa Barbara" or "Davis" or saying UCLA, means UC-Berkeley.  The sports
>teams at Berkeley usually have the word "California" on their jerseys and the
>football team has the script "Cal" on their helmets.  

If you ever visit the East Bay, you'll find that the Berkeley Campus of the 
University of California is quite often referred to as UC or the 
"University of California".  I'll just leave it at that.  For now (8-).

>
>--WFT
>GO BEARS!

Couldn't the Cal Bears beat Stanford just once at the "Big Game"?  Ah well.

David

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From: warren-matthew@cs.yale.edu (Matthew S. 'Opie' Warren)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210,yale.opie
Subject: Re: Favorite lines from Heathers
Keywords: opie opie
Date: 13 Dec 92 21:58:37 GMT
Followup-To: alt.tv.bh90210,misc.test
Organization: Mail Forwarding Department, Yale College

In an article with a compressed message-Id,
larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel) writes:

>Having forced myself to suffer through this thing thinking it must have
>some sort of redeeming quality (silly me), here's my favorite line
>contribution, from Winona to Shannen:
>
>  "Heather my love, there's a new Sheriff in town."
>
>Why?  Because it was the last line in the movie.  I can't believe I made
>it through the whole miserable thing.

Well, not quite the LAST line.  Veronica walks down the hallway to
Martha "Dumptruck" Dunstock's weelchair, tells her that her prom date
"kinda flaked out," and asks her if she'd like to watch some videos that
night "or do something lame like that?"

Martha herself actually gets the last line (also her first and last
in the movie):  "I think that'd be nice."


And the movie really is brilliant, 90210 goes to hell, or more accurately
a John Hughes flick on LSD.  It's got all these P.C. silly morals, like
Cliques are Bad and Sacrificing Your True Friends for Social Prominence
is Bad; at the same time, though, the equalizing force that rights the
wrongs is two adolescent lovers, one insane and one confused, brutally and
gruesomely murdering their fellow students and making it look like suicide.

The genius of the movie is in its ability to kill people and have us laugh;
as Heather Chandler groans "Corn Nuts" and expires in her oh-so-pristine
glass coffee table, there is nothing the audience can do except stare,
shocked, and try to fight the irresistable giggles that possess them. (And
after watching the movie a few times, you notice that Heather ordered
Corn Nuts at the convenience store before going to the party the night
before; does this make her utterance more, or less, meaningful?)

Like 90210, Heathers is too unreal to hurt us, and this allows the movie
to go beyond the bounds of all reality and into a world we can laugh
at, but would never want to become.

Whooh.  Was that serious enough for you?  I've been writing papers for
a week; I guess it shows.


-- 
Matthew S. "Opie" Warren     warren-matthew@yale.edu
"It wouldn't have been anything, even if it were gonna be a thing."
From: news@netnews.upenn.edu (USENET News System)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: AIDS ON THE SHOW
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:43:28 GMT
Followup-To: alt.tv.bh90210
Organization: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My brother said that he heard on the radio that it would be David (Brian
Austin-Green) who would get AIDS on the show.  Brian said that he wasn't
interested in doing the show anymore.  It was not Dylan.

I do believe they can kill off David and still have a good show.

moe
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: st923377@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: Re: missed episodes
Reply-To: st923377@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 23:39:18 GMT

Sorry to be about non-bh90210 stuff (then again, what's all this UC Berkeley
		stuff about? No one cares!! Back to 90210!), but....
To the nameless person from McGill:
	What's your name and do you happen to know a freshman from Vancouver
named Leanne Lieberman? E-mail me to st923377@pip.cc.brandeis.edu, or 
whatever it says my address is above. Thanks, looking forward to hearing
from you. Bye!

To Everyone else: Look, who cares about all this technical UC stuff? This
is an escapist show where details are not important. Drop the discussion!
Here's a new topic for you: I hear Vanilla Ice is coming out of "forced
retirement" to play David Silver's real, not adopted, father who gave him
his voice. Shocker to anyone? Not to me?

plus.....IIIIIIIIIIIIIII EEEEEEEE-IIIIIIIIIIIIIIII happen to think that
Whitney Houston song is pretty. So there! Bye!
From: shalom@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Laura Fefferman)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: FAVORITE LINE FROM HEATHERS
Date: 14 Dec 1992 21:39:07 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee, WI
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

OK  one of the best lines in my opinion;

I LOVE MY DEAD GAY SON!

Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: ikuz@cs.vu.nl (Kuz I)
Subject: Are you serious
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:52:37 GMT

I've read a whole bunch of postings from people who sound like
they really think that this is a GOOD show!  Is this  REALLY 
true?  I don't mean to put anyone down but I find it hard
to beleive that college students could take the show seriously.

The only reason why I watch it is because it's the funniest show 
on tv now ( especially when they're trying to be serious ).  Well here
in Holland we're still pretty far behind but maybe in the newer 
episodes ( I hope not ) the acting will get better and I'll have
to find another comedy show to make me laugh.  

ciao
	Ihor.
From: larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: Steve in detention
Date: 18 Dec 1992 20:53:07 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
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Lesley Bride (lbride@eniac.seas.upenn.edu) wrote:
> 	My point is that, normally, Steve in detention is doing nothing. We
> weren't even allowed to do homework.

I doubt that we could ever know what Steve is doing in detention every
minute, but as far as I know, no one (particularly me) ever said that he
would never be sitting doing nothing.  Personally, I said that detention
could be considered equivalent to community service, for various reasons
I explained at the time which weren't dependent on what we saw Steve
doing on the TV show.

It might be analogous to jury duty (in California).  When I've been on
jury duty, I sat on my b*tt in a room all day, I never got on a jury,
and it's the same for the majority of people that get jury duty.  I
don't think I as an example would be proof of a claim that what a
person does in jury duty is sit on their b*tt doing nothing all day,
even though I guess that's what happens most of the time.


>                                       Because he committed a crime, Steve 
> should have also been sentenced to community service, besides his dentention,
> maybe on the weekends.

I respect that opinion.


Larry
From: detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu (David De Trolio)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: Where is the heights?
Date: 19 Dec 92 18:13:12 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

My understanding is the show has been cancelled, and the remaining
episodes will be shown at a later date.

It was a ratings disaster for FOX, and some affiliates were making
plans to drop it before the network made its decision.



-- 
David De Trolio - (detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu)
--------------------------------------------------
Reagan-Bush 1981-1988 + Bush-Quayle 1989-1992
An Era of Strong American Leadership
From: larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: Heathers quiz
Date: 16 Dec 1992 23:46:31 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
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Christine (durrant@mentor.cc.purdue.edu) wrote:

> With the recent rash of Heather's comments on the net--I have to try out my
> new trivia quiz on you.  This is by no means complete, but I've seen the
> movie about 100 times now so I know more trivia about it than I should. 

I like it!  What's the prize for getting all the answers?

Do you have a quiz for the "Friday the 13th," "Police Squad,"
"Halloween," and "Airplane" movies too (including all the sequels
of course!)?  How about "Student Bodies?"  All these brilliant movies
should have trivia quizzes, but I just don't have time to write them.
Oh, and Texas Chainsaw Massacres too!  The subtle nuances and quotable
quotes from those could fill a library!  Here's one from the most
recent Chainsaw movie: "Bone patrol for the stupid fuck-face!"
Brilliant movie.  I especially like the Chainsaw movies because the
characters are so hyperbolic that I can vicariously experience their
actions without feeling guilty!


Larry
From: linda@linda.intel.com (Linda Harbin)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Next Year
Date: 19 Dec 92 02:00:31 GMT
Reply-To: linda@linda.intel.com (Linda Harbin)
Organization: Intel Corp.

Why is everyone so concerned about what will happen next year.  Remember, the
show's name is Beverly Hills 90210 - NOT West Beverly High 90210.  Could it
be that they all go to UC (and maybe UC is in the same zip code?)  Maybe
next year it will be call Beverly Hills 90210 - The Freshman Year.

Just my thoughts.

***************************************************
	Linda Harbin       Hillsboro, Oregon 
	503-696-2261       linda@littlei.intel.com
***************************************************
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: st923377@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: the Heights: RIP
Reply-To: st923377@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 18:39:10 GMT

To the (stupid) fan of "The Heights":
	Thank God, that stupid show was cancelled. It was dumb from the start
and from what I can see, the only people who miss it are the top 40 radio 
DJ's with nothing new to play.......Of course, there's always Whitney Houston!
From: larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: are they serious?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 20:01:26 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
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X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Neal Cohen (ncohen1@cc.swarthmore.edu) wrote:
> Was that episode for real? It was the absolute cheesiest thing that I've
> ever seen.

No, it wasn't for real.  The holiday episodes, and especially the
Christmas episodes are supposed to be sentimental and surreal.


Larry
From: lbride@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Lesley Bride)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Steve in detention
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:45:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	I hate to beat a subject to death, but Steve was not supposed to
be at any school activity, including visiting the kids.  He snuck out
of detention, unknown to Mrs. Teasley, and figured she would change her mind
about letting him go if he was already there (which she did).  
	My point is that, normally, Steve in detention is doing nothing. We
weren't even allowed to do homework.  Because he committed a crime, Steve 
should have also been sentenced to community service, besides his dentention,
maybe on the weekends.

Lesley
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210,yale.opie
From: warren-matthew@cs.yale.edu (Matthew S. 'Opie' Warren)
Subject: Re: FAVORITE LINE FROM HEATHERS
Followup-To: alt.tv.bh90210
Organization: Mail Forwarding Department, Yale College
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:23:33 GMT

In article <emjfox-121292214131@branford-college-node.net.yale.edu> 
emjfox@pop.cis.yale.edu (Emily Fox) writes:
>FIRST OF ALL, EVERY LINE FROM HEATHERS IS MY FAVORITE LINE FROM HEATHERS.

Damn straight.  But the best one is Veronica writing in her diary:

"Are we going to Prom or to Hell?"


Matt
What's the difference anyway?


-- 
Matthew S. "Opie" Warren     warren-matthew@yale.edu
"It wouldn't have been anything, even if it were gonna be a thing."
From: phoebe@pop.cis.yale.edu (Phoebe Moore)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: Favorite lines from Heathers
Date: 11 Dec 92 23:44:40 GMT
Followup-To: alt.tv.bh90210,alt.tv.90210
Organization: Yale University

ooops, I'm repetitive.  Sorry all!
____
Phoebe Moore                  phoebe@pop.cis.yale.edu
"What fun is it being 'cool' if you can't wear a sombrero?"
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: night@acm.rpi.edu (Trip Martin)
Subject: Re: How do we redeem Shannon?
Reply-To: night@acm.rpi.edu
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:07:23 GMT

In <phoebe-141292114054@branford-college-node.net.yale.edu> phoebe@pop.cis.yale.edu (Phoebe Moore) writes:

>You know, I might be the only one in the universe, but I don't hate Brenda.
> Yes, she is whiny.  But I think, in the whole situation with Kelly and
>Dylan that Kelly was the villain.  It's one thing to have a short, random
>hookup with a cool guy in a foreign country when you are otherwise
>committed.  It's another to get together repeatedly with your BEST FRIEND'S
>BOYFRIEND.  I think both things are dishonest and hurtful, but Kelly's
>seems worse to me; her action hurts Brenda in two ways, not just one.  Does
>anyone else feel this way?

Not really.  True, Kelly deserves some blame, but I think Dylan deserves
most of it.  Kelly kept trying to Dylan at a safe distance, but Dylan
kept pushing the issue anyway.  He never once bothered to consider how
his actions might affect Brenda.  Kelly, on the other hand, was very 
concerned about how it would affect Brenda.  The fact that she ultimately
gave in was because a) Dylan was so persistent, and b) she's only human.
It doesn't absolve her from guilt, but it does put things in perspective.
--
Trip Martin
night@acm.rpi.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: grisha@athena.mit.edu (Grigory Golberg)
Subject: Re:   the video
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:21:23 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.203507.19219@leland.Stanford.EDU>,
Scot Gibson writes:

>the time.  There's a linguistics class here at Stanford called
>"African-American Vernacular English", and it's what most black people

I know this does not really belong in this newsgroup,
but I'd really like to know - what can they teach in 
this course?


>Of course, 'African-American' is just as acceptible as 'black'.  But I
>feel that the two terms carry different connotations, culturally.

Would a white citizen of, say, South Africa,
who moved to USA be considered African American?
If no, thn why?

-GG
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: dlee@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (David Lee)
Subject: Re: UC or not UC - NOT! (Should be: Class of '96) (Was: Andrea gets into Yale!)
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 20:09:38 GMT

In article <1gt6h4INN505@agate.berkeley.edu> wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell) writes:

>>>GO BEARS!
>>
>>Couldn't the Cal Bears beat Stanford just once at the "Big Game"?  Ah well.
>>
>>David
>
>No, but Cal has beaten the UCLA Bruins for 3 years in a row.

I'll not disagree.  I was just noting the expectations, especially last year,
when Cal played Stanford that the Bears were going to stomp all over the 
Cardinals (I was up in Berkeley that weekend staying at the Hotel Durant and
expecting all hell to break loose).  Besides, we've been able to handle U$C 
in spite of ourselves during the same time frame.  (And which is probably why
Larry Smith is not looking so good right now - especially having continuing
a decade of '$C losing to Notre Dame.)

David

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From: st923377@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: BH not Heathers
Date: 13 Dec 92 17:36:35 GMT
Reply-To: st923377@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University

I can't believe I'm saying this, but can we please stick to 90210 on this
network? If you want to discuss Heathers, find a new network, even if Shannen
Doherty was in it. 
To state my pov on the subject, I might not like the show, but like probably
75% of everyone who watches it, I'm addicted. I do have my own views on shows
of the future. One, I don't think BH can tackle a topic like AIDS very well.
I say this because their "issues shows" all wrap up in an hour. A show like
Life goes On was very courageous and smart to keep their story going this 
long. It's realistic and well done. Plus, we all know none of the "big stars"
will get the disease, even though we all could name someone we want to get
it. Remember when they advertised for that big death episode a couple years
back and then they copped out and had David's friend, who nobody cared about
anyway, die? What a let down it was for me. The least they could have done
was kill off Brenda and not have her be a total self-centered bitch through
the entire Dylan/Brenda/Kelly/(whatever that other guy's name is) quadrangle.
Dylan should realize that he doesn't deserve Brenda's attitude, and should
either stay with Kelly (he obviously likes her more) or stay stag. Plus, when
are they going to learn that David 
Silver was cool before he could rap/sing/warble whatever you want to call it
and now that he has this "band", his image is shot to hell. And why didn't
they just expell Steve while they could. Another let down by having him 
allowed back into West Beverly. I still don't see what Brandon sees in that
sophomore chick. Give him a real girl to go out with, not some starry-eyed,
immature, flirtatious sophomore. Know what? Why don't they just shoot Steve
and get him off the show? Yes, that's the only real way to solve that one.
	Well, again, I can't believe I'm writing this, but what can I say? I
guess I care more about the show than just an addiction. It's an excellent
mid-week diversion. It's escapist trash in the highest way. Thast's why I 
and so many others enjoy it so much. adios guys!
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: med50003@nusunix1.nus.sg (WANSAICHEONG KHIN-LIN)
Subject: Re: FAVORITE LINE FROM HEATHERS
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 09:41:26 GMT

'Why are you being a bitch?'

'Because I can.'

gervais

Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: durrant@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (unknown)
Subject: Heathers quiz
Keywords: Heathers, Trivia, Very
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:51:38 GMT


Thanks to all the responses I've gotten so far--even you, Larry!  I don't have
time to check everyone's answers individually so I'll just post the answers!
Now, I (stupid me) didn't keep a copy of the file so I'm trying to remember
what questions I actually asked.  If I leave any out, let me know, and I'll
get the answers to them out too before I leave for the holidays on Saturday.

1.  What is the commercial food or drink product that appears throughout the
    movie?  CARNATION MILK--appears at least five times, while Slushee appears
    only twice.
2.  What flavor of Slushee did Veronica order?  CHERRY
3.  What flavor of CornNuts did Heather want?  BAR-B-QUE
4.  What was the name of the movie company JD and his father used?  BELKINS
5.  What was served for lunch the day of the first sequence of scenes in the
    cafeteria?  POT PIES
6.  What was the Cliff Notes on the table Heather crashed through, and why was
    that significant?  THE BELL JAR, by Silva Plath.  Plath committed suicide.
7.  What the mascot of Westerberg High?  THE ROTTWEILERS
8.  Where was the party held?  REMMINGTON UNIVERSITY
9.  How long was school let out for Heather's death?  ONE HOUR  For Kurt and
    Ram's?  ONE DAY
10. What was the order of the people at Heather's coffin?  HEATHER, HEATHER,
    GEEK WHO WANTED INTO HARVARD, RAM, VERONICA
11. What famous acting family does the actress wh plays Betty Finn come from?
    SHE'S CHARLIE SHEEN'S DAUGHTER
12. What is unusual about Martha Dumptruck's character, and what was her real
    last name?  MARTHA DUMPTRUCK, WHILE APPEARING THROUGHOUT THE MOVIE, ONLY
    HAD ONE LINE.
13. What was Heather doing when she heard about Martha Dumptruck's suicide?
    CHINESE AT THE FOOD FAIR
14. What was the name of the DJ on Hot Probs?  THE DOGCATHCER
15. Who actually sang the song "Teenage Suicide--Don't Do It" by Big Fun?
    BIG FUN  (groan, groan)
16. Who sang the version of "Que Sera, Sera" at the end of the film?  SLY
    AND THE FAMILY STONE

	I know I forgot four questions--could someone let me know what they
        are?
QUOTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1.  Fuck me gently with a Chainsaw!
2.  Greeting and Salutations
3.  No, you took this as yet another opportunity to play another round of
    "let's laugh at the hippy!"
4.  Suicide is a very personal thing.
5.  Ram and Kurt had a little swordfight in your mouth last night.
6.  Are we going to prom or to hell?
7.  Chaos is what killed the dinosaurs, darling!
8.  Veronica, why are you pulling my dick?
  
	Hopefully, someone could help me remember the last two quotes, too.

Have a merry X-mas, and stay away from those stupid angels that were on 90210
tonight!

Christine

Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: grisha@athena.mit.edu (Grigory Golberg)
Subject: Re:  the video
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:38:33 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.195031.16657@leland.Stanford.EDU> Scot N  Gibson
writes:

>I personally think that the more diversity that a show shows, the
>(potentially) better the show is.  It just opens the script writers
>door a bit more for other viewpoints and storylines.  Not that a
>"diverse" show has to mean that every plot line is racially/culturally
>tilted, but only that there is a broader spectrum that can be
>considered.  I really like this show, but I think it would be better
>with a little more cultural diversity.

Not really. After all, this is much like a soap opera, so diversity
or no diversity, the authors will find storylines.


>Please don't argue that this "is not realistic" for some reason or
>other; it may or may not be realistic as far as Beverly Hills is
>concerned, but who ever said the show was "realistic" in the first
>place?

Never said that


>What's stupid about it?  You're just saying that you don't prefer the
>term.  Others don't prefer other terms.  The term "African-American"
>is a pretty well accepted, mainstream term.  Just because for some
>reason you personally don't like it is no reason for you to label it
>PC and call it a "stupid" term.

O yeah? How mainstream and well accepted is it?

-GG