HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Re: the purpose of soc.motss (was: off-topic discussions)
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 04:59:27 GMT

adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:

I have become a not-so-bad cook.  
>My secret?  The fabulous cookbooks _Cucina Fresca_ and _Cucina 
>Rustica_ by Vianna La Place and Evan Kleiman.

But... but...

>_Cucina Fresca_, 
>in particular, could have been designed for people just beginning 
>to cook.  The recipes are clear and not at all tricky, and the
>food is wonderful.

But... Joan! What about Joan! She was your mentor! How... what...

>Six months ago I didn't know how to make
>mashed potatoes.  Now I'm making things like pan-steamed sage
>potatoes, salmon scallops in peppercorn vinaigrette, pollo 
>tonnato.  I'm making aioli.  Lemon mayonnaise.  My favorite
>dish so far?  It's a pasta dish that, if made for 4 people, calls
>for *twenty* cloves of garlic.  Sheer heaven.

Father! What about the bacon? All that nummy lard! I was *so*
hoping when the family finally got together we'd cozy up with
a big plate of cholesterol and bond around a hog... Oh, how
could you do this to me?

John, world crumbling to Bac-o's around him

--
John Dorrance        * Sexyfunky Motherfuckerdiva *   thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu

		I bet if you threw that ass into the air
			It'd turn into sunshine!
From: AH.PBL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Thugsy twins to run against each other!
Date: 20 Nov 1992 16:02:18 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <RHAYDEN.92Nov18141200@hqsun2.oracle.com>,
rhayden@oracle.com (Ronald Hayden) writes:
>In article <1ebcukINN27k@morrow.stanford.edu> AH.PBL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark) writes:
>
>   In article <RHAYDEN.92Nov14150853@hqsun2.oracle.com>,
>   rhayden@oracle.com (Ronald Hayden) writes:
>   >I don't know, I thought Herschonsohn was amazingly candid.  He said he
>   >wanted to get rid of the dept of education, believes the school
>   >breakfast program is a plot to destroy the family, wants MORE defense
>   >spending, believes anyone should be able to carry an uzi anywhere, etc
>   >etc etc....
>   >
>   >How much more candid could he be about his real agenda?
>
>     These were things that the Boxer campaign brought to
>   the attention of the voter.  Herschie didn't advertise
>   these ideas himself.  He spent his campaign money telling
>   us that he would run his own elevator in the Senate and
>   pay for his own parking at the airport.  Of course, he was
>   spending $5000.00 for each 30 second TV commercial to say this...
>
>Well, Hersch didn't do ADS on those things, but he did say them in
>public, on talk shows, and during appearances.  He wasn't hiding his
>point of view (at least on those things).

  Please, please!  I'm grasping at straws here!  I'm hoping
that there's some reason (besides Boxer herself) that Herschonsohn
was able to do as well as he did.

Newsgroups: soc.motss,soc.bi
From: seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore)
Subject: Re: Oprah 11/19
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:58:48 GMT

In article <ROBERTL.92Nov19231203@luciano.Stanford.EDU> robertl@luciano.Stanford.EDU (Robert Lodenkamper) writes:
>In article <1992Nov20.040700.26375@col.hp.com> smithw@col.hp.com
>(Walter Smith) writes: 
>
>   1) I believe that whether a person is gay or straight depends on
>   genetics.  Therefore, when a person is born, it has already been
>   determined...being gay is not "learned behavior that one can
>   change" as the religious fanatics would have us believe.  Is this
>   belief correct?
>
>Probably.  But it doesn't matter.
>
>- Bob
>
In order to apply Jeffersonian government to the movement,
It does matter.
If you don't follow, write me @ dilmore@colburn.che.udel.edu
thanks
-- 
Jim Dilmore - seamus@brahms.udel.edu    
               SILENCE = DEATH    
This is not a black and white world,
to be alive I believe the colors must be swirled- Live.
From: owen@autodesk.com (D. Owen Rowley)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: The Hate Gene (was Re: Social Democracy)
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:22:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.235855.24673@netcom.com>, solovay@netcom.com (Andrew M. Solovay) writes:
> In article <1992Nov9.034058.24485@tc.cornell.edu> shore@dinah.tc.cornell.edu (Melinda Shore) writes:
> >you ignorant slut.
> 
> Let's see. Mr. Nimble said something you disagreed with, so you
> compared him to a promiscuous woman. Isn't that special.

> Do you use woman-hating terms whenever you insult a man, or only
> when he's gay?

> I guess I'm not the only misogynist on soc.motss...

Like the rest of her ilk, Ms shore never speaks directly to individuals 
or issues which offer substantive differences of opinion from her own.

> -- 
> Andrew Michael Solovay    
> "We know that Solovay is a misogynist and an idiot..."
>                 --Melinda Shore

A lovely .signature, it certainly got me to pay more attention to you :-)

LUX .. owen

--
D. Owen Rowley {uunet,fernwood,sun}!autodesk!owen

  " It will be a cold March 17th that I celebrate the imposition of
	Romes rule, on Pagan Ireland. Erin go ppphhhhhttttttt! "
From: aberson@enh.nist.gov
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: RE: Evian (was The Hidden Sailor)
Date: 16 Nov 92 01:30:41 GMT
Organization: NIST

In a previous article, xtkmg@trentu.ca (Kate Gregory) wrote:
> 
>Colour me intensely dense, but what aspect of sexually-active-female
>health care does Evian cover?

In the intense South Florida heat, one shouldn't get dehydrated from
all the exertion.

;-)>

Sim Aberson   Ft. Lauderdale, FL   aberson%3328.span@sdsc.edu

Hate, bigotry, and discrimination are not family values, even in
Colorado and Tampa.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: ECL4JN2@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Jack B. Nimble)
Subject: Re: Nimble Stumbles
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:41:13 PST

In article <69576@cup.portal.com>, on 15 Nov 92 22:54:39 GMT,
Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) writes:
>
>Jess Anderson writes:
>[About one "Jack B. Nimble"]
>>Tell us what the B stands for and maybe we can do better.
>
>"Butthead," quite obviously.  ;-{)##]
>
Actually, to you, Fuzzball, it stands for Bearbuster. (snicker)

        =Jack=
---

Jack B. Newsbaum             You, sir, too, sir?
Library Information Systems  How about a shave?          .
University Research Library     -Sweeney Todd, the Demon
ecl4jn2@mvs.oac.ucla.edu          Barber of Fleet Street
From: jf@threel.co.uk (John Fisher)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Religion in UK and US
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:16:56 GMT
Organization: 3L Ltd, 86/92 Causewayside, Edinburgh EH9 1PY, UK

Social and Community Planning Research, a non-profitmaking
institute, has just published it four-yearly British Social
Attitudes Survey.  I thought people might be interested in
the following figures from it, which were printed in the
Guardian today.  The survey work was done in 1991.

                                         Britain   US
%age who believe in:

God                                         69     94

That God is concerned personally
with people                                 37     77

Life after death                            55     78

Heaven                                      54     86

Hell                                        28     71

The Devil                                   28     47

That the Bible is the actual or the
inspired word of God                        44     83

%age who:

Are affiliated with a denomination          64     93

Attend a service > 2 times monthly          16     43

Have had an intense religious experience    28     33

=============================================================

I think I may lash out and buy this book, even though it
costs 19.95 pounds :-(  One of two other bits and pieces:

=============================================================

                                                %age agreeing
                                                1983    1990
"The law should allow an abortion if a couple
agree that they do not wish to have the child"    46      62

"The law should allow an abortion if the woman
decides on her own that she does not wish to
have the child"                                   38      56

"Neither Russia nor America is a threat to peace"  5      28

"Having our own nuclear deterrent makes Britain
a safer place to live"                            61      54

Support membership of the European Community      48      76

"Racial prejudice in Britain is now worse than
in the past"                                      43      23

"There is a lot of prejudice against blacks"      50      50

=============================================================

What should be done about the economy?

Cuts in interest rates                     90
Government job-creating projects           84
Controls on credit and hire-purchase       81
Govt. incentives for job-sharing           70
Cutting down on foreign goods              67
Price controls                             60
Increasing subsidies for private industry  58
Cuts in defence spending                   55
Wage controls                              33
Reducing health & education spending        7

--John
Xref: sparky soc.motss:48582 talk.politics.misc:61029 ca.politics:9736
From: cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss,talk.politics.misc,ca.politics
Subject: Re: A Strand of Bigotry
Date: 20 Nov 92 00:27:41 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <1992Nov19.005034.5803@oracle.us.oracle.com>, mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman) writes:
> In article <1992Nov17.210333.2428@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gsh7w@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Hennessy) writes:
> >In article <13208@optilink.UUCP> cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:
# ##So why is there a right to practice sodomy?
# 
# #Because it is a private matter between consenting adults. Didn't you
# #know that?
# 
# So is prostitution.
# 
# (The money involved clearly does not take it out of the private
# sphere.  After all, abortion is protected under the privacy theory but
# people pay for abortions.)

Complete agreement.
-- 
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
We could say that Congress spends money like drunken sailors.  But that would
be unfair -- to the sailors.  They, at least, are spending their own money.
From: jhb@calmasd.prime.com (Jim Bishop)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Bear Crap
Date: 20 Nov 92 07:32:55 GMT
Organization: -

In article <69735@cup.portal.com>, 
Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) growls:

> Mike Hennahane whines:
>>the point of my
>>posting (and melinda's i think) is that i get crabby sometimes reading
>>yet another GDM whiny evangelical hell-fire bears uber alles posting.
>>he really alienates me
> 
> Awwww... POOR **BABY**!  I'm only buried under disillusioning,
> disenfranchising images of nothing but an *exceedingly* narrow
> band of physical type in the gay media, absolutely NONE of which
> I can identify with in the slightest.  Forgive the FUCK out of me 
> for being pissed off that our supposedly more "enlightened"
> community is as fucking bigoted against Persons of Fur as a lot
> of WASP society is against Persons of Color or QueerFolk.
> 

Well, whether you like Furrball's whines or not, you've got to admit
he is a trained bear - he always performs on cue.  Now if someone
could just teach him some new tricks.

Jim
From: Minotaur@cup.portal.com (A Frank Swilling)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: FAMOUS GAYS from GAYNET (fwd)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 19:40:45 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <69720@cup.portal.com> <1992Nov18.064707.6927@reed.edu>

Nelson Minar enlightens this enquiring mind:

>In article <69720@cup.portal.com> Minotaur@cup.portal.com (A Frank Swilling)
>writes:
>>What lawsuit?

>The lawsuit Tom Selleck successfully prosecuted against some magazine
>or newspaper that claimed he was gay.

Sounds like Liberace!  Anyone ever see the two of them together?

>>[About Arnold Schwarzenegger]
>>Now I saw that photo in Spy, but this is the first I've
>>heard about Honcho.  When did this happen?

>mid-70s, maybe? I'm not sure. I think the photos in Spy were actually
>from his Honcho spread. At any rate I saw the Honcho issue with my own
>two eyes in a queer bookstore in Houston (Lobo). I'm just sorry that I
>didn't buy it - it was only $10 or so.

>(I'm slightly worried that it wasn't Honcho, but some other similar
>gay porn magazine. It's been awhile since I saw it.)

>nelson@reed.edu

Well, whatever mag it was, somebody find it, scan those pix, and upload
them to every Gay BBS you can find.  We have to do our part to ensure
that Conan the Republican remembers the days when he couldn't even afford
lederhosen.

:-)

Frank
Minotaur@cup.portal.com
From: markm@ogicse.ogi.edu (Mark Morrissey)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: bear vs. twink
Date: 24 Nov 92 03:23:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.46306
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR

In article <17161@umd5.umd.edu> jns@elea.umd.edu (J. N. Shaumeyer) writes:
>
> [about Jeff Norris]
>
>As a hint for readers who are enticed but have limited
>travel budgets: long-distance telephone is reasonably
>economical, and Jeff's is a voice to *die* for.  Be
>prepared for meltdown.
>
>So there.

No disagreement there.  How do you think I felt when Jeff and Dur hit
town for hours of conversation!  They are the ``voice boys'' those two
are.  Gifted with hands as well (at least Dur is, Jeff appeared reluctant
to do those things in a crowded bar :-).

And as for Jeff's looks: hubba hubba.  Definitely hubba hubba.

Maybe they are the ``hubba hubba voice boys'' ??

--mark
who is still waiting for our scanners to get back from Comdex so that
I can get those beard pics scanned.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: emcmanus@gr.osf.org (Eamonn McManus)
Subject: Re: Cheese-Louise
Organization: Open Software Foundation Research Institute, Grenoble
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:04:57 GMT

nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
>To the rest of you, who are probably feeling skeptical, let me say
>that Oregon does indeed have some very nice wineries. And if this
>stupid trade war with France continues, you'll soon be glad that you
>can get a bottle of anything other than California wine.

What's this "you" business?  I for one would be rather surprised if I
couldn't get as many bottles of French wine as I liked, trade war or
no trade war.

Yours for a global soc.motss,
,
Eamonn
name no one man
From: owen@autodesk.com (D. Owen Rowley)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Inconsistency re CO boycott
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:26:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.120330.5296@macc.wisc.edu>, anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
> Laura writes as though the only ideas of merit were those
> she advances.  The discussion of relevant issues she finds
> worthy of scorn, scorn sufficient to trivialize the cares of
> others sincerely expressed.  She's serving notice that
> thinking aloud is disallowed.

I am astonished that you can write this about someone else.
I've watched you fill this newsgroup with the official 
Anderson line for a few years now, and have also watched you
heap your special brand of creamed scorn on those who dare to think
aloud outside of your accpted gnorm.
Oh, you are always so sincere in expressing that the offendors
must be morons though. 

> You think all the self-righteousness is out here, huh?

another gem!


LUX ./. owen

--
D. Owen Rowley {uunet,fernwood,sun}!autodesk!owen

  " It will be a cold March 17th that I celebrate the imposition of
	Romes rule, on Pagan Ireland. Erin go ppphhhhhttttttt! "
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: cc4507@u.cc.utah.edu (Chucki Carpinello)
Subject: Re: Gay Games contact info?
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Student Mail Machine
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 18:43:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.173846.8232@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> psp@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (P.S. Powledge) writes:
>
>I'm looking for contact information for the '94 Gay Games, to be held 
>in New York City. Can anybody here give me a pointer? I'd prefer email,
>rather than a followup here.

I wish I cold help, but I dont know what they are.  Sounds interesting!

-Chucki

-- 
Chucki Carpinello --------------------------------------------------------
		  Chucki.Carpinello@M.cc.Utah.EDU  <=>  chucki@acm.rpi.edu
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
	"I have nothing to say....So I won't."
Newsgroups: soc.motss,alt.politics.homosexuality,co.politics
From: s0gwb@exnet.co.uk (George Battrick)
Subject: Re: New Catholic Catechism
Organization: ExNet Systems Ltd Public Access News, London, UK
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:11:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.155832.7684@spdcc.com> rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue) writes:
>>I'm mildly curious if anyone has a more complete copy of this text
>>-- I'd like to see what this section is about...
>
>	It's still only in French...
>
OK: let's see it in French.  Pas de proble`me...
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: dgilly@us.oracle.com (Daniel Gilly)
Subject: Re: Letter from my father
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA 94065
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:32:28 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Nov18.055342.4959@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>
>If you were reading this newsgroup in mid-June this past,
>you would have seen some writing I did about my mother at
>the time of her death.  

Sorry to hear about that.  I was off the Net for about 
4 months while relocating to California.  But ...

>It told how very close we had become
>over the past 17+ years, how keen a fighter she was for LGB
>civil rights, and how few children probably could hope for a
>more loving, more *friendly* parent than she was to me.  It's
>possible she knew me much better than I did (or do).

... but I've been reading soc.motss long enough to remember
your making occasional references to your mother.  If I recall
correctly, you would frequently describe her as someone who
was remarkably PC for her generation.

>was as yet *very* far from where your father seems to be,
>Dan.  
 ^^^

[small point:]
I appreciate the familiar address, but I go by "Daniel."

>My further point, then, is that from the sound of his
>letter, your father is making what could be seen as a rather
>rapid adjustment, which I'm sure would delight anyone to
>whom it happened.

Indeed it does, particularly since last year at this time,
my father was adamantly opposed to my bringing Bob to our
Thanksgiving gathering.   My mother persuaded my father to change
his mind -- twisted his arm somehow-- boy, would I have 
liked to witness *that* drama -- and that's how Bob first 
met my parents.  It turned out to be a remarkably positive 
experience for all concerned.

I can't think of anything to add about the remainder of your article.
It was quite interesting to read, and it's clear from your vivid
recollections that those events mean a lot to you.
-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------
Daniel Gilly                                 Oracle Corporation
dgilly@us.oracle.com                         Redwood Shores, CA
Xref: sparky soc.motss:48114 talk.politics.misc:60646 ca.politics:9633
From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss,rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Neutering Question
Date: 20 Nov 1992 14:51:53 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

In article <By1B5q.M78@wrs.com> 
jessica@wrs.com (Jessica Hart) writes:

> Thanks to everyone who replied to my question about whether the vet should
> keep my male cat overnight after neutering.

I meant to reply, but I couldn't make up my mind.  I'm
sorry, Jessica, but that's just the way I am.  "Where oh
where oh where", I asked myself, "should Jessica's cat
spend that first crucial post-op night".  I think I 
finally decided that the vet should keep him overnight.
Think of the many role models -- older cats who've 
experienced the knife and have adjusted to their new 
selves -- who'll be there for your kitty cat.  Besides,
I'm sure your vet will be able to immerse your kitty
in gay culture.  I hear he cranks up the volume whenever
he puts Lisa Kirk Live at the Plaza on the turntable.
Hobbes is gonna do just fine.

Arne


Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: mchaffee@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (REAL LIFE?!?!  HA!!)
Subject: Care to flame a bigot?
Summary: Person is just asking for it!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:39:45 GMT
Keywords: bigot flame prejudice homosexuality

OK folks, here we go!

I got this on Email from someone who saw my .sig in rec.humor.  I already sent
an appropriately bitchy reply, but I thought some other insight on the topic
might be fun.  Don't bother posting; just email any response you might happen
to have to:  keyser@ab.wvnet.edu

Have fun!

Michael T. Chaffee        |******BOYCOTT COLORADO******|  ______    
mchaffee@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu | Professional Slapthologist |  \    /     HATE
Member, Universal Life Church, Sect of Loons           |   \  /  can never be
Annoyance Theatre Platinum Member |     Evil Genius    |    \/  a FAMILY VALUE

-------CUT HERE-------

 FIRST ANWSER ME A FEW QUESTIONS BEFORE I ANWSER YOURS IF YOU WOULD BE SO KIND
 SIR.  (1) HOW CAN A MAN LOOK AT ANOTHER MANS HARRY ASS AND FIND LOVE AND
 THEN CLAIM TO BE MENTALY STABLE.  (2)  HOW DO YOU THINK AIDS STARTED.  
 GRANTED, NOW YOU CAN GET IT BY HETROSEXUAL MEANS, BUT THATS JUST BECAUSE
 OF BYSEXUAL PEOPLE GIVING IT TO THE OPPISITE SEX.  (3) SO GIVEN THAT STATEMENT
 WHY SHOULD WE LET HOMOSEXUAL PEOPLE LIVE LET ALONE GIVE THEM RIGHTS IN OUR
 (BY OUR I MEAN EVERY SEXUALY NORMAL PERSON) COUNTRY.  NOW FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.
 HOMOSEXUALITY CAN'T BE A FAMILY VALUE BECAUSE; (1) IT IS MORALY AND ETHNOTICALY
 WRONG, (2) IT GOES AGINST THE WORD OF GOD. ( I'M NOT A BIG CHRISTION BUT I HAVE READ SOME E
 READ SOME OF THE BIBLE.  ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT IT GOES AGINST ALL CHRISTION 
 BELIEFS.  SO IN A COUNTRY WHERE CHRISTIANITY IS THE MAIN RELIGION WHY SHOULD
 WE, BEING GOOD CHRISTIONS, LET IT CONTINUE.
                                      PRESIDENT OF P.A.F
                                       JOHNITHEN SCOTT KEYSER III
P.S. P.A.F  (PEOPLE AGINST FAGS)
From: rcrice@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (roger.w.crice)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Human Rights Ordinance in Cincinnati???
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:14:09 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Nov23.151245.21197@tc.cornell.edu>
shore@dinah.tc.cornell.edu (Melinda Shore) writes:
>[]
>What ever happened with the O'Banion incident?  Were the
>police involved disciplined?  (I'm assuming charges against
>O'Banion were dropped - is that correct?)

When O'Banion was cuaght jaywalking, he was apparently drunk
and not very cooperative with the police.  He was originally
charged with felonious assault, assault with a deadly weapon
(spit, HIV-laced), but that was dropped and he was found
guilty of 3 minor assault charges.  O'Banion filed a counter-
suit, charging mistreatment and that his civil rights were
violated - specifically that he was denied medication while
under arrest.  

Because his case is under appeal, his sentence has been sus-
pended.  He is currently living in Hawaii.

Roger Crice
AT&T, Cincinnati