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From: stewarte@sco.COM (just a guy made of dots and lines)
Subject: Mandos [was Re: Mutant Viola?]
Organization: Captain Napalm's Thermonuclear League of Liberty
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:05:29 GMT


After overdosing on Halcion, ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) typed:
>In article <14529@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>I did hear of a string quartet composed of two mandolins, a mandola
>and a mandocello a while back.. they played stuff meant for a re-
>gular string quartet.

That would be the Modern Mandolin Quartet, led by Mike Marshall.
They do perform string quartet works, but also things like a medley
of Bill Monroe tunes.  They have two albums, I think, both on Windham
Hill or some subsidiary thereof.

-- Stewart
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From: miner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Help a novice folkie!
Date: 10 Sep 92 09:13:19 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <92091011349@zone4.ocunix.on.ca>, peter@zone4.ocunix.on.ca (Peter Dubiel) writes:
> Here is my problem: I am an 18 year old student who has just completely fallen
> for traditional Celtic music, and wants to take up an instrument so that I
> attempt to play my favourite music on my own...
> 
> I'd like to hear some recommendations on what a good instrument for a starving
> student whose only previous musical experience is three guitar lessons and
> a brief stint playing rock drums.
> 
> As far as percussion goes, I was considering the bodhran (sp?), since I have
> a decent sense of rhythm and some drumming experience. As for a lead
> instrument, I've been considering the flute, but I can not afford one
> (and from what I hear, it's not the easiest instrument to master), and was
> considering whistle... A friend of mine is taking up harp (having sold his
> mandolin), another friend plays recorder, and we also have interested
> guitar and mandolin players - we were considering forming a band once we
> achieve some degree of proficiency on our instruments.
> 
> I know that this is a VERY vague posting, and probably quite damned naive,
> but ANY feedback would be appreciated. ESPECIALLY for learning traditional
> instruments - any tips, pointers, ANYTHING would be appreciated.
> 
> Price ranges and sources for instruments would be helful; ones in Canada
> doubly so. If you have anything to tell me that you could thing a complete
> musical maroon like myself could benefit from, please follow up or mail!
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help...

Earlier suggestion re the penny-whistle is good; it's sort of basic.
You can play anything on that, learn to play any Celtic tune, even
slow airs; and they're the least expensive (though you want to buy two
or three of them, in different keys).

If you want to stick to strings, guitar is OK but it's pretty hard to
play jigs and reels on guitar, though some do it.  For strings I would
suggest Irish tenor banjo, which I fool around with.  You can play any
fast tune but for slow airs--not so good.

I would imagine the most satisfying in the LONG run would be button
accordion; if I had my life to live over again, that's what I'd learn,
hands down...but you'd have to read real music, rather than tab books.

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From: tzf@csl.biosci.arizona.edu (Theron Friedman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: funny math and physics songs
Keywords: math physics
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:54:40 GMT
Reply-To: tzf@csl.biosci.arizona.edu
Organization: U of Arizona, CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Sep10.180558.7355@schaefer.math.wisc.edu>, pemantle@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Robin Pemantle) writes:
|> 
|> I'm trying to locate some funny songs about math and physics -- in
|> particular the quantum version of Joni Mitchell's "Clouds" and 
|> the version of the song from Pinafore that goes, "... and now I am 
|> the Holder of a Ph.D."  I saw these once posted on an office

Robin - these sound like fun. Would you please post them when you get them?

To add to your collection, the following was up on the bulletin board at
Planetary Geosciences Dept., University of Hawaii (Manoa) a few
years ago:

  (tune: I've been working on the railroad)

I've been working on my thesis
19 hours a day ...
I've been working on my thesis
Wasting all my youth away ...
I hear my committee mumbling
questions large and small
Can't you hear them all a-shouting
"Publish by the fall!"

Data won't you show
Data won't you show
Data won't you show something new-ew-ew
Data won't you show
Data won't you show
Data won't you show something new.

Someone's been fiddling with my data
Someone's been feeling pretty blue-oo-oo
Someone's been playing with the numbers
Now they show something new!

Fee-fie fiddle away
Fee-fie fudge fudge fay
Fee-fie twiddle tweak twee
I'll get my Ph.D.!
                .... author unknown

Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: kdawson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Kathryn E Dawson)
Subject: Still more on Cheryl Wheeler
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 13:55:34 GMT

I must have been asleep the first time I heard, "Circles and Arrows",
because I wasn't overly impressed.  But after hearing so many people
raving about it over the last year or so, I decided to listen to it again.
Whoa!  It's terrific!  Her lyrics have given me shivers, and her voice
has a hundred nuances in it, so it never gets boring (as some folk singers
tend to be after a while).  Like a previous poster, I loved, "Estate Sale."
I have found myself singing the chorus of "Going through dead people's
houses" at the most inappropriate times.  Her more serious songs are
exquisite, like the song, "I wish I could fall in love."  I also bought
"Half a book", where her songwriting ability was even more overwhelming.
One of the best things about her albums is the diversity.  Even the
background instruments are wildly varied, from fiddle to piano to guitar
to saxophone to congas.

I'm so excited that she's doing a concert here in Columbus OH in November.
I can't say enough about her stuff.  Buy it!!
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: bsmart@bsmart.TTI.COM (Bob Smart)
Subject: Re: Frankenfiddle
Reply-To: bsmart@bsmart.TTI.COM (Bob Smart)
Organization: Citicorp+TTI
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 10:02:36 GMT

My profuse thanks to all who participated in the Identify the
Frankenfiddle game.

I still can't explain the weird body shape, with "dimples" at the top
and bottom, but the emerging consensus is that it's some kind of twisted
cry for help from the viol family.

My next strategy, in my never-ending quest to get other people to do my
homework for me, is to run through the lists of likely-looking makers
and restorers listed in "Strings" magazine, and send them pictures of
my...whatever it is.  I've already stumped the guy who reset the sound
post for me.

One thing that I may have failed to mention in my initial description is
that whatever this thing is, it ain't an antique.  There's a rather
elaborate drawing on the inside (I can't make it all out, but it vaguely
resembles a pen-and-ink Harley-Davidson logo as drawn by a junior-high
vandal on a desktop) and a date of 1977.  So whatever it is, it isn't
the Missing Link, although it may be a modern day tragedy brought on by
overexposure to radiation or mutagenic chemicals.

---------

A fanatic is someone who does what he knows that God would do if God knew the
facts of the case.

Some mailers apparently munge my address; you might have to use
bsmart@bsmart.tti.com -- or if that fails, fall back to
72027.3210@compuserve.com.  Ain't UNIX grand?
From: joe@evolution.u.washington.edu (Joe Felsenstein)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: still looking for the authors of these songs
Summary: Would you believe -- a judge?
Date: 10 Sep 92 01:22:14 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <TERRYK.92Sep9122218@fenix.encore.com> terryk@encore.com (Terence M. Kelleher) writes:
>
>In article <1992Sep3.002328.14469@parc.xerox.com> putz@parc.xerox.com (Steve Putz) writes:
>
>
>   Acres of Clams
>	   (I've traveled this country all over...) [Pete Seeger]
>Old music, from the Scotish song, "Acres of Clans"
>New words by Charlie King.

A number of people have commented on this tune and the improbability of this
being where Acres of Clams came from.

I can just add, as a Washingtonian, that the "standard" words to "Acres
of Clams" were written (I think in the 1890s) by Judge Francis B. Henry of
some reasonably high court in our state, and his sheet music version was
said to have been selling briskly back then.  Ivar Haglund, a local
character, sometime folk singer, and owner of fish restaurants, may have
informed Pete Seeger about it when Pete passed through years ago.  Ivar's name
gets mentioned in the Lomaxes book of American Folk Songs.  Ivar even named
one of his restaurants the Acres of Clams, and it's still in business.

Never heard of the Scottish song "Acres of Clans" before.

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From: landauer@morocco.Eng.Sun.COM (Doug Landauer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: funny math and physics songs
Date: 12 Sep 1992 20:25:15 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: morocco
Keywords: math physics

> > ... "Talking Atom Blues" ...
> 
> Unless my memory fails me totally, this is by Sam Hinton.  He's the uncle
> (or maybe the great-uncle) of a friend of mine.

Is Sam Hinton still around?  Still teaching at UCSD?  Another one of
his songs almost fits this thread of "funny <science> songs" --
"Amphioxus".    The only song I know about evolution.

	"... just wait until you see me   in a hundred million years!! "
-- 
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From: dhw@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us (David West)
Subject: Re: still looking for the authors of these songs
Organization: Plex-1, Michigan's Public Access Usenet Gateway  (Ann Arbor).
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 05:23:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.225605.12838@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> thughes@lonestar.utsa.edu (Toby . Hughes) writes:
[re "Battle of New Orleans"]
>No question involved.  Steve's request was for authors, not who recorded it.
>Jimmy Driftwood wrote the lyrics, Johnny Horton recorded it.  

Jimmie Driftwood recorded it around 1960.

-David
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,alt.guitar.tab
From: terryk@encore.com (Terence M. Kelleher)
Subject: Re: still looking for the authors of these songs
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:57:17 GMT
	<TERRYK.92Sep9122218@fenix.encore.com>
	<1992Sep9.204010.29652@pony.Ingres.COM>

In article <1992Sep9.204010.29652@pony.Ingres.COM> jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger) writes:

   In article <TERRYK.92Sep9122218@fenix.encore.com>, terryk@encore.com (Terence M. Kelleher) writes:
   >
   >In article <1992Sep3.002328.14469@parc.xerox.com> putz@parc.xerox.com (Steve Putz) writes:
   >
   >
   >   Acres of Clams
   >	   (I've traveled this country all over...) [Pete Seeger]
   >Old music, from the Scotish song, "Acres of Clans"

   This _has_ to be a joke, surely.  Doesn't it?  It sounds like a
   double-barrelled parody to me, anyhow.  You could make up a lot of these:
   a song about a drummer's convention called "Acres of Flams", or one
   about Spanish cooks called "Bakers of Flans", or ... ok, ok, I'll stop.

It is something of a joke, pun, whatever.  The Acres of Clams version
was written for performance at a meeting, or protest gathering, of the
Clamshell Alliance, an anti-nuclear power group.  Acres of Clans was a
serious Scottish folk song.

   The tune is the ubiquitous "Rosin the Bow", which I've seen almost equally
   often spelled "Rosin the Beau" (but that sounds like yet another parody).

Wheter it was "Rosin the Bow" or "Acres of Clans" first, I have no
idea.  Both go back alot longer than I do.

   It shows up in a remarkable variety of settings; I recall a horrible
   C/W song with the same tune that they used to play all the the time at
   the roller rink I hung out at in my childhood.  The chorus went

      "I've been to St. Louis and Abilene,
       I've traveled to many a town.
       But I got me a woman in Denver, Lord,
       That's where I'm settling down."

   Anybody remember this, or am I hallucinating again?

Never heard that one, but I do have a recording of Bill Croffut(sp?)
where he goes through a run of campaign songs used in presidential
elections, with about half to the tune of "Rosin the Bow", and most
the rest to the tune of "My Grandfather's Clock".  The melody has
definately been around a bit.
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From: ddean@granite.ma30.bull.com (Douglas J. DeAngelis)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Cultural Triage (was Re: John Gorka: Temporary Road)
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:57:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bull HN Information Systems Inc.

In article <1992Sep9.211958.13485@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> stevena@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Steven Alexander) writes:
>In article <1992Sep8.234741.14099@mips2.ma30.bull.com> ddean@granite.ma30.bull.com (Douglas J. DeAngelis) writes:
>
>>John Gorka really needs to learn how to play the guitar.
>>...
>>                                                              I can think 
>>of a 100 people I'd rather see live.  Give some of them a chance.
>
>Is this some kind of cultural triage?
>

Makes you wonder about the english language...I had to read this many
times before I realized that what I had said could have quite a different
meaning...but for folk artists it turns out to not be all that inappropriate...

-dug

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From: david@mobius.msri.org (David Mostardi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Recommendations on the Gypsy Kings
Date: 8 Sep 1992 20:46:04 GMT
Organization: Mathematical Sciences Research Institute, Berkeley
Reply-To: david@mobius.msri.org (David Mostardi)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.188.88


Well, so who *are* the Gypsy Kings?  I've heard good things
about their music.  Were I to try out a CD, which one should
I start with?

Thanks,
David
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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: navy@iastate.edu (Scott V Rivera)
Subject: James Taylor in Midwest!?!
Keywords: music,JT,Concerts
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:31:48 GMT

Could anyone please e-mail me any concert info for James Taylor.  Midwest
dates are all I need.

Thanks in advance,

Scott Rivera
navy@iastate.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: vaisey@cs.sfu.ca (Jacques Vaisey)
Subject: Barenaked Ladies: who is Brian Wilson
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C. Canada
Distribution: na
Date: 9 Sep 92 11:38:49

Does anyone out there know who Brian Wilson is in the song on
the Barenaked Ladies' new album (Gordon)?

Are we supposed to know, or is it perhaps a name that they made up
in order to add mystery?
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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: stewarte@sco.COM (just a guy made of dots and lines)
Subject: Re: Good Ol' Persons
Organization: Captain Napalm's Thermonuclear League of Liberty
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:27:53 GMT


After overdosing on Halcion, rost@rgb.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost) typed:

>I just had my first exposure to the Good Ol' Persons this past weekend and was
>quite impressed.  I know they have a lot of albums dating back to the early
>eighties, where is a good place to start?

They actually don't have all that many albums.  I have their two most
recent:  "Anywhere the Wind Blows" from 1989 and "Part of a Story" from
1986, both on Kaleidescope.  As of last year, only the former was available
on CD.  If I recall correctly, they have one or two earlier albums.
I like both the albums I have; slight preference to "Anywhere...".
A couple of excellent side projects well worth checking out:  singer
Kathy Kallick's duo album with Laurie Lewis, called "Together", also
on Kaleidescope; and dobroist Sally Van Meter's solo album on Sugar Hill, 
"All In Good Time".  Both feature most of the GOP's lineup on various
tracks.

>Also they had a substitute bassist this tour, a woman from Vancouver, B.C. who
>had previously worked with Laurie Lewis and Grant St.  She sang a couple of
>tunes including one that she wrote.   I thought she was great...especially
>since she had to borrow a bass at each gig of the tour!  Anyone know who she
>is?

Hmm...Tammy Fassaert used to play bass for Grant Street, including on
the "Singin' my Troubles Away" album; she does sing but I don't remember
her singing leads when I saw her with Grant Street.  Could that be her?

-- Stewart
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From: romain@salt.eng.pyramid.com (Romain Kang)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Nanci Griffith question.
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:45:30 GMT
Reply-To: romain@pyramid.com
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp, San Jose, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: salt.eng.pyramid.com

In rec.music.folk you write:
| [...] I wonder if she plays all
| those songs herself or does she have some help from her band.  

Most of the songs are accompanied by her band, but the only instrument
in "Love at the Five and Dime" is her guitar.  I've seen a laser disc
from the same series of performances, also titled "One Fair Summer
Evening" -- you'll certainly want to see it.  The video is missing
"Roseville Fair" and "Trouble in the Fields", but has "There's a Light
Beyond These Woods"; maybe it's also available on VHS.  Her stage
presence and rapport with with the audience is impressive in itself.

Can't answer your questions about tuning, since I don't know anything
about guitar technique.
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: judym@col.hp.com (Judy Miller)
Subject: Re: John Gorka: Temporary Road
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:57:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

neverisk@trintex.uucp (Mike Neverisky) writes:
> 	        But, for my $12-$15, Gorka's guitar playing doesn't bother
> 	me.  Let's face it - John Gorka's appeal is his wordplay skill and
> 	an intriguing voice - the timbre of which adds a unique kind of
> 	emotional subtext to his lyric.  

His shy smile and twinkling eyes don't detract either!

I admit it, I'm enamoured by his shy-sexy humor.

Judy
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From: jdhill@star-trek.bbn.com (Jack D. Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,rec.music.classical,rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: train song tape finished (Oh no! it started again!)
Date: 11 Sep 1992 13:35:17 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Reply-To: jdhill@BBN.COM (Jack D. Hill)
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Honegger - Pacific 231
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,soc.culture.celtic
From: witters@tc.fluke.COM (John Witters)
Subject: Tour Schedule: The Tannahill Weavers
Followup-To: rec.music.folk
Keywords: Scottish, Celtic, Music, Tour
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:33:27 GMT


I picked up this updated tour schedule at their concert in Seattle last
Friday.  The concert was pretty good, but they didn't have any copies of their
new recording to sell.  Too bad, I guess I'll have to mail-order it from Green
Linnet.

The typing errors are probably mine.


	The Tannahill Weavers

	* Scotland's finest traditional band *

	North American Tour:	Autumn 1992

	Sept.

	14	N. Newport Beach, CA
		The Patriot Game
		(714) 955-3868

	16	New Orleans, LA
		O'Flaherty's
		(504) 529-1317

	17	Charlotte, NC
		Elizabeth Traditional School
		(800) 822-2420

	18	Carboro, NC
		The Arts Center
		(919) 929-2787

	19	Asheville, NC
		The Biltmore Estate
		(704) 255-1715

	20	Asheville, NC
		The Biltmore Estate
		(704) 255-1715

	23	Columbus, OH
		Stashe's
		(614) 262-2573

	24	Ann Arbor, MI
		The Ark
		(313) 761-1800

	25	Milwaukee, WI
		Centennial Hall
		(414) 372-3060

	26	Chicago, IL
		Old Town School of Folk Music
		(312) 525-7793

	27	Cleveland, OH
		Case-Western Reserve
		(216) 687-0788

	29	Cincinnati, OH
		The Southgate House

	30	Dayton, OH
		Canal Street Tavern (tentative)
		(513) 461-9343

	Oct.

	1	NorthHampton, MA
		The Iron Horse
		(413) 584-0610

	2	Portland, ME
		First Parish Church (tentative)
		(207) 761-2924

	3	Bedford, MA
		The Joyful Noise
		(617) 275-9075

	4	Philadelphia, PA
		The Cherry Tree
		(215) 641-0497

	7	Norfolk, VA
		Old Dominion University
		(804) 427-3561

	9	Colorado Springs, CO
		Colorado College
		(719) 473-4801

	10	Denver, CO
		Swallow Hill
		(303) 777-1003


	If you have any trouble getting information from the telephone numbers
	listed, please contact Green Linnet Records at (203) 730-0333.  For
	information on bookings, contact The Herschel Freeman Agency at (919)
	493-6208.

	For those of you have been waiting, the Tannahill Weavers' new
	recording, "The Mermaid's Song," will be released on Green Linnet
	Records on CD and cassette for this tour!  We hope to see you there;


					Slainte,

						The Tannahills


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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: Re: AMERICAN folk singers
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 02:06:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.143325.1@pearl.tufts.edu>, mweinste@pearl.tufts.edu writes:
> As someone who has listened to folk music since I was an infant, I am
> shocked that I do not recognize any of the names in this entire newsgroup.
> What ever happened to the great American folksingers like Woody Guthrie,
> Pete Seeger, Tom Paxton, Arlo Guthrie, Lee Hays, etc?
=====
Ol' Woody, he died a while back...

skip
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: wcsanil@superior.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad)
Subject: Fairport Convention Tapes Wanted
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 08:02:39 GMT


Howdy,

I'm looking for folks with live Fairport tapes. In particular, I
really want stuff from the Trevor Lucas period (around "Nine").

If you can help, lemme know.

Thanks,

Anil Prasad
wcsanil@ccs.carleton.ca
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,soc.culture.celtic