HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
Subject: Re: multiple slip links
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:26:20 GMT

In article <3016@contex.contex.com>, james@sam.contex.com (James McQueston) writes:
> ...
> I need the highest possible bandwith between two workstations for the
> purposes of file transfer between Cherry Hill, NJ to Antwerp, Belgium.
> V32bis/V42bis modems and switched (dial) circuits look more attractive
> than Ethernet Bridge,DSU/CSU, and leased 56Kbit/sec circuit from a cost
> and complexity point of view. We need the bandwith only periodically.
> But when the files are ready, we want as much bandwith as possible to
> drive the transfer time down.
> 
> Could a sleazy trick like the following get us partway there until/if
> slip can handle multiple serial lines? A) Configure both systems to 
> look like gateways, i.e. two network addresses. B) split files to be
> send into equal parts. C) rcp one part to REMOTEA and one to REMOTEB.
> D) rsh a command to REMOTE to re-assemble the pieces.

Yes, that is a good and easy hack.  It is possible to do the whole
thing with shell scripts, hiding all of the ugliness.


However, if all you want to do is move files over the ocean, then
I would use UUCP.  The fastest and cheapest way I know of to move data over
ad hoc, dial up circiuts is with pairs of Telebit "WorldBlazers".

Do just as you wrote, but with `split` and uucp, over several simultaneous
dialup lines.  Such a kludge should take less than a morning to
set up and cost less than $1200/pipe, with each pipe yielding about
to 1800 Bytes/sec net throughput.

However, the cheapest and almost the fastest way might be a courier service.
(I don't know--are there still customs problems with shipping tapes?)


> It means a multi-million dollar per year contract to the end-user who
> needs this capability to conduct its business.

That big a contract should be able to justify commercial "reverse
multiplexors".

> ...
> What about the limits on the serial port speed itself.  When V.FAST
> modems become available will the current uart speeds (19.2K or 38.4K)
> be too slow to allow for full throughput?

The fastest way to move data through modems is now and will be for the
foreseeable future, to pre-compress.  If you pre-compress, then even
whatever eventually follows v.32bis ("v.fast") will work fine at 38.4.
I understand that the v.fast talk is for raw speeds of <= 28K.


Vernon Schryver,  vjs@sgi.com
From: montnaro@spyder.crd.ge.com (Skip Montanaro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: rpc/xdr dumps on sgi, works on hp,sun,ibm malloc?
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:24:27 GMT
Reply-To: montanaro@ausable.crd.ge.com (Skip Montanaro)
Distribution: comp.sys.sgi
Organization: GE Corporate Research & Development, Schenectady, NY

In article <UNILRH.92Oct1171706@uts.uni-c.dk> unilrh@uts.uni-c.dk (Leif R|dgaard) writes:

   but here sgi crashes in malloc called by fwrite. We can print the string 
   with printf, so string should be ok. The debugger tells us,

Sounds like somebody's wandering into the malloc header information. You
might try getting a copy of Purify from Pure Software for your Sun and
running the dumping program purified there. It's very good at locating
various sorts of memory access violations.

(I have no connection with Pure Software other than as a satisfied
customer.)


--
Skip (montanaro@crd.ge.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: oster@well.sf.ca.us (David Phillip Oster)
Subject: mail to workspacetags@sgi.com bounces
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: comp.sys.sgi
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 05:03:50 GMT

The man page for    tag(1)   suggests that you mail to workspacetags@sgi.com
to be assigned a tag value. This mail addresses bounces.  Where should I
mail to be assigned a tag value?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: ib@ivan.esd.sgi.com (Ivan Bach)
Subject: Re: Math symbols in showcase - bullet
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:59:43 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.091902.25496@news.uni-stuttgart.de> 
andreas@awstar.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Andreas Wierse) writes:
> I'm not quite sure about what a bullet is :-)
'bullet' is the PostScript name for the character with the octal code 267 in
the Adobe character sets for text and Symbol fonts (see pp. 596-604 in the 
Adobe PostScript Language Ref. Manual, Second Edition).  I think that it is 
called that because it looks like a black bullet hole.  That character is 
similar to the character 'periodcentered,' but its black dot is larger.  It 
is usually used to start each entry in a list of topics or items in a 
presentation slide.

The bullet character is not included in the ISO 8859-1 character set.  When
an X font uses the ISO 8859-1 character encoding, X font utilities let you 
access only those characters in that font which are in the ISO 8859-1 
character set.  If you use, for example, the X utility xfd to display 
characters in a text font with the ISO 8859-1 encoding, you will not see the
bullet character, although that character exists in most of the text fonts
shipped by SGI.

Showcase is able to access all characters in a bitmap font.  For text fonts,
Showcase uses an extended ISO character set which is defined in Appendix E in 
recent editions of the IRIS Showcase User's Guide (Doc. No. 007-1303-020).  
You can see in that appendix that you can get the bullet character by pressing 
the Alt+Ctrl+8 keys at the same time. 

Ivan Bach, ib@sgi.com
From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: R4k Indigo memory
Date: 4 Oct 92 05:09:40 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Oct3.204732.16090@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, senseman@ricky.brainlab.utsa.edu (David M. Senseman) writes:
> ...
> To be honest, I didn't realize the degree to which "standard" memory
> varied from vendor to vendor in the "PC world" since most of my money
> has been shipped to Mountain View to purchase a small flock of Indigos :-)


Just to beat the dead horse ... I don't know much about PC memory, but
I do know modern PC-clone SIMS come in (at least) 128Kx9, 1Mx9, and
4Mx9.  It comes in speeds of seemingly every even (at least) multiple
of 10 ns from 50 ns (at least) to 100 ns (at least).  Of course Apple
and other guys have their own sizes and speeds, and there are always
people eager to sell you 8-bit (Apple) memory for your standard (hah!)
PC motherboard.

And when thinking about PC mother board memory, you must worry about
cache RAM's, where there is more chaos, and the cheap vendors generally
don't know what they are selling (or so it seemed to me).

PC clone mother boards tend to have jumpers to accept several
combinations of sizes and speeds of main and cache RAM, but never the
sizes and speeds that are cheapest this week.

And the cheap memory vendors say "sure, it'll work" or "don't ask me if
it works, either give me your credit card number or stop wasting my
time."


That's what makes PC's so much fun.  If your montage of parts doesn't
crash with an NMI in the first 15 minutes after you power it up, you
feel a deep sense of accomplishment.


vjs
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: tndoma@ddpi6 (Thompson Doman)
Subject: Where are preferences stored in Showcase?
Organization: Monsanto Company
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:44:27 GMT

I've checked the written and internal documentation for Showcase
and I just can't seem to find where the preferences (e.g., for
color) are stored.  A coworker of mine has made some nice changes
to the color palette in his version of showcase and I'd like to
use that palette, but I have no idea how to get the color
preferences from him.  Anybody have any ideas?

Thanks!
Tom Doman
tndoma@ddpi6.monsanto.com


Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: gjbertin@cayley.uwaterloo.ca ()
Subject: Graphical tools for SGI boxes
Keywords: Source code needed, Graphical tools
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:40:43 GMT

To Anyone In The Know:  I am currently in search of graphical design tools
                        for SGI's Irises and/or Indigos.  If you know of any
                        such tools that make design on these machines more
                        friendly (and source code is provided!!), please e-mail
                        me at "tbertin@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca".
 

Thanx,

T. Bertin
From: davidb@gdfwc3 (David Brynell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: HELP!  Trying to config kernel for VME device
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:22:48 GMT
Organization: General Dynamics, Fort Worth Division

In article <1992Oct1.192256.15752@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> barrett@ial3.jsc.nasa.gov (Jim Barrett) writes:

   After making this entry I ran lboot, copied the new kernel to
   /unix.install, and rebooted.  Then I ran my program, which invokes
   the following function:  

	   #include <stdio.h>
	   #include <fcntl.h>
	   #include <sys/mman.h>

	   void
	   Init_Board(void)
	   {
	       int  fd;
	       extern vmic3111  *board_ctl;  

	       fd = open("/dev/mmem", O_RDWR);
	       if (fd < 0)
		   Err("could not open /dev/mmem (errno %d)", errno);

	       board_ctl = mmap(0, 32, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE, fd,
		   0xbd106000);
	       if (board_ctl == 0)
		   Err("could not mmap the a/d board (errno %d)", errno);

	       printf("board_ctl == 0x%08X\n", board_ctl);
	       board_ctl->csr.fail_led = 1;
	   }

   The printf produces "board_ctl == 0x00600000" every time I run the
   program.   My program drops core on the "board_ctl->csr.fail_led = 1"
   statement.   Attempting to read from the board also causes core
   dumps.  


   Well, if you read thru all that and are still with me :-), do
   you have any idea what might be wrong?  Ideas, anyone?  


You are soooooo close.  I compared your init with mine and the
differences are as follows:

   1)  on the call to mmap() I cast all values appropriately --
       this shouldn't make a difference.

   2)  I use MAP_SHARED (not MAP_PRIVATE).  MAP_FIXED looks even
       better though I haven't tried it.

   3)  I check for a return value of -1 not 0 because that's what
       the FM says it returns on error.

   4)  AND, I think your problem is what was alluded to in a
       previous reply -- you are probably performing a 32-bit
       operation instead of a 16-bit.  You don't list what
       board_ctl looks like but I would bet that your csr is
       being treated as an int or unsigned int.  I would 
       suggest declaring it as an unsigned short and saying 
       something like "csr | FAIL_LED_ON".  I had the same
       problem using bcopy().

Hope that helps.  Don't dispair -- if I can do it with virtually
no knowledge of VME stuff, I'm sure you can.


Good luck.


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From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: 4D35 doesn't start up automatically...
Date: 2 Oct 92 02:43:46 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <12975@ecs.soton.ac.uk> tpm@ecs.soton.ac.uk (TP Monks) writes:

| I recently swapped my system disk over on my 4D35.
| In order to minimise problems, I just removed the old disk and
| replaced it with a new one with the same SCSI number, and re-installed
| the system from scratch.
| 
| Everything works fine, except when I turn the system on it doesn't
| come back up automatically, but sticks me into the miniroot after
| giving the error:
| '/' not a directory.

Into the Miniroot, or the PROM monitor?  It sounds like perhaps
the volume header isn't set up correctly, or one of the NVRAM
variables (try 'printenv' in the prom monitor).  You could also
try 'resetenv' to reset to the factory default, but then you 
should explictly reset your netaddr, if you are on a network.

If the nvram is OK, then try using fx on the root disk and see
if it complains (you can boot the standalone version, or use
it once the os is booted).  In particularly, look at /label/sho/boot,
it should show something like:

	----- bootinfo-----
	 root partition = 0     swap partition = 1    bootfile = /unix

--
Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
From: pj@sam.wpd.sgi.com (Paul Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Problem with awk?
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:55:50 GMT
Reply-To: pj@sgi.com
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Research & Development

In article <1992Sep28.214844.25844@cc.umontreal.ca>, gaumondp@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Gaumond Pierre) writes:
|>      Print fields in reverse order:
|> 
|>           { for (i = NF; i > 0; --i) print $i }
|> 
|> I assumed that all fields would be printed on the same line but, when I tried
|> it, it prints only one field on each line.

Each invocation of "print" emits a trailing Output Record
Separator.  To get fields on a single line, try something using
"printf":

    { for (i=NF;i>0;--i) printf "%s ", $i; print ""; }

-- 

				I won't rest till it's the best ...
				Software Production Engineer
				Paul Jackson (pj@sgi.com), x1373
From: kamemoto@spf.trw.com (Kenneth Kamemoto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: FAQ
Date: 4 Oct 92 17:42:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: TRW Sensor Data Processing Center, Redondo Beach, CA

Is there a FAQ for this news group to be posted soon or
available via anonymous ftp?
-- 
Kenneth I. Kamemoto
kamemoto@spf.trw.com
From: portuesi@tweezers.esd.sgi.com (Michael Portuesi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Where are preferences stored in Showcase?
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:51:20 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA


In article <1992Oct6.204427.19223@tin.monsanto.com>, tndoma@ddpi6 writes:
> I've checked the written and internal documentation
> for Showcase and I just can't seem to find where the
> preferences (e.g., for color) are stored.

All of the showcase preferences are kept in a file in
your home directory, called .show_pro

> A coworker of mine has made some nice changes
> to the color palette in his version of showcase and I'd like to
> use that palette, but I have no idea how to get the color
> preferences from him.  Anybody have any ideas?


To get just the colors, copy every line that begins
with "color" from his .show_pro file into yours.


--
Michael Portuesi   Silicon Graphics, Inc.   portuesi@sgi.com
From: jdh@bu-pub.bu.edu (Jason Heirtzler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: 3.1 compilers (was: On-line manual browser)
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:50:45 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Information Technology

>| Finally, is the old(er) 3.1 compiler CD equivalent to the new 4.1
>| development option CD?
>
>I've never seen a CD labeled 3.1 compilers.  The compilers shipped
>with 4.0.5 (maint_dev, maint_c) are the 2.20 (also known as 2.40)
>compilers, which are bug fixed versions of the 4.0.1 compilers, with
>additions/changes for r4k systems.
>
>The 4.1 IDO has the 3.10 compilers on it, and is more ANSI compliant,
>etc.  I suppose that some beta copies of this may have gone out with
>a label that said 3.1, but I don't think so.

While we're on the subject..

1. Are the 3.1 compilers available for 4.0.5?  I tried to ask the
hotline (call ID 124525) last week, but never got a call back, and
my sales rep doesn't know.  If they are available for 4.0.5, will
customers recieve them automatically, or do we have to beat on the
hotline for it?

2. Are the compilers (C, FORTRAN, PFA?) all provided on one media?

3. Is there really a 4.1 release coming soon?  I had kind of thought
the next release would be the S5R4 release (Irix 5.0?)

4. Would anyone using the 3.1 compilers care to comment on how well
they work?  Some comments here tended to indicate they were a little
more buggy than the 2.20 ones.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: fish@daacdev1.stx.com
Subject: what is the best method to lock a file on an IRIS? (flock, or usnewlock)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:07:18 GMT

what i want to do is set up a lock on a DEVICE file so that only one process
can use it at a time and if another tries it will get an error

has anybody tried this? i've never used flock() but it looks like it may work
even though there are quite a few caveats in the bugs section of the man page

and i've never seen these us*() functions before {usnewlock, usinitlock, etc}

p.s. it'ld be nice if SGI would have an AUTHOR section in the man pages - its
nice to know if something is BSD, AT&T, or SGI or mixed - i'm used to HP's
man pages because they do it

			fish
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From: jeff@hobbes.contex.com (Jeff Carey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: bug in SCSI tape driver or tps man page ?
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:37:23 GMT
Organization: Xyvision Design Systems

In article <qnjuo2c@sgi.sgi.com> jeremy@classic.asd.sgi.com (Jeremy Higdon) writes:
>In article <3007@contex.contex.com>, jeff@hobbes.contex.com (Jeff Carey) writes:
>>...
>> Logically, it seems I would end up between the last two ending filemarks.
>> But, in practice it seems I am after the last of both filemarks.
>
>I would have said between the last two filemarks.  How do you determine
>that it is after the last two filemarks?  I refer you to the man page:
>
>     1.  If the first read after an open or following a BSF encounters a
>...

I am determining it to be after both ending filemarks by doing a read which
returns a -1, "No space left on device."  The read immediately follows the
FSF sequence (no impinging close, open, or BSF), which is not included in
the cases above that would cause it to skip the filemark.

>That said, there is a bug in the tpsc driver (fixed in the next major release)
>that makes the behavior more like the following (oops):
>
>     1.  If the first read after an open or following a BSF encounters a
>         filemark before transferring any data,                              
>                                             the filemark will be skipped, and
>         the read retried.  Any further errors will be reported exactly as
>         they occur.
>
>I.e. It doesn't check for BOT of Top of Filemark.  Perhaps this is what
>     you are seeing.

No, see above.

So far I tally the following problems:
1. "man tps" "TAPE MOVEMENT CRITERIA" note 4. inconsistency.
2. your above-mentioned tape driver bug which makes it act inconsistently
	with "man tps" "TAPE MOVEMENT CRITERIA" note 1.
3. my above-mentioned "what-I-believe-to-be-a-bug" bug concerning the FSF
	to the end of a tape.

Thanks again,

-jeff


-- 
Jeff Carey
jeff@contex.com       (or: contex!jeff@uunet.uu.net)
From: mmcohen@cats.ucsc.edu (Michael M Cohen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: HELP:how to record image in window by VCR ?
Date: 27 Sep 92 03:33:47 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


In article <32759@adm.brl.mil> macleod@vissgi.cvrti.utah.edu (Rob MacLeod) writes:
>Do other folks have more to offer in the way of control software for the
>video framer?

Sample code comes with the framer. See
/usr/video/vfr/src/*.c

In that dir is also vlan.demo, a shell which dumps
.rgb files to a vlan controlled vcr.

We use a Videomedia MICRON edit controller which receives
VLAN from our framer to control 2 PANASONIC AG-7750 svhs
vcrs. It can control a wwide variety of machines and
works in stand alone mode also wwith it's own display,
dial, buttons, etc. Also can be expanded to A-B roll
with an additional VLAN receiver.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: xie@enel.ucalgary.ca (Jingping Xie)
Subject: test, please neglect.
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 01:22:20 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.sgi
Organization: ECE Department, U. of Calgary, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
From: jrh@de.deere.com (John R. Howell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Rotate in tops ????
Date: 1 Oct 92 13:13:14 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.sgi
Organization: Deere & Company

Is it possible to get tops to print in landscape format???

This is a trivial PostScript operator, but I haven't seen anything about
this in the tops man page.  So far I have had to create new image files
with iflip before sending them to the printer with tops.

I suppose another option would be to write a filter that would stuff the
appropriate rotate transform in the PostScript code and do something like:

tops imgfile | RotateFilter | lp

but this seems awfully messy for such an obvious feature.

Perhaps I'm missing something?

John Howell
Deere & Company
(The Big Green Tractor People)
jrh@de.deere.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: senseman@lucy.brainlab.utsa.edu (David M. Senseman)
Subject: "fsr" misses second drive
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 02:56:23 GMT

After reading "man fsr" I was under the impression that "fsr" would
defragment all the mounted file systems in /etc/mtab. A look a
the mtab file shows:

         ricky 145$ cat /etc/mtab
         /dev/root / efs rw,raw=/dev/rroot 0 0
         /dev/dsk/dks0d5s7 /usr3 efs rw,raw=/dev/dsk/dks0d5s7,fsck 0 0
         /dev/dsk/dks0d4s7 /usr2 efs rw,raw=/dev/dsk/dks0d4s7,fsck 0 0
         /dev/usr /usr efs rw,raw=/dev/rusr 0 0
         /debug /debug dbg rw 0 0   

However "fsr" shows the following result:

          fsr -m /etc/mtab -t 7200 -f /usr/tmp/.fsrlast
               %frag  after   %free  after  npass  fs
                1.78   1.77    0.22   0.22      8  /dev/root
                0.73   0.73    0.14   0.13      7  /dev/usr

while /usr/tmp/.fsrlast shows:

         ricky 146$ more /usr/tmp/.fsrlast
         /dev/root 0                        

As far as I can tell "fsr" never tries to optimize either "/usr2"
or "/usr3". Is that because it runs out of time (-t 7200)? Or
is their something else I need to do? 

BTW, this is running on an Indigo XS24. Uname -a gives: 

           IRIX ricky 4.0.5 06151813 IP12 

so I guess that I'm running just 4.0.5 not 4.0.5A (or higher)?

Thanks.
-- 
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(senseman@lonestar.utsa.edu)  |   from a freight car; but if he has a university
Division of Life Sciences     |   education, he may steal the whole railroad.
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From: bob@caw2.4950tw.wpafb.af.mil (Bob Plested)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re:  3rd RFD: comp.sys.sgi reorganization
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:12:56 GMT

Brent L. Bates ViGYAN AAD/TAB writes...
>      Is it easy to automate the addition and deletion of mailing list members?

I've heard that some folks have determined to build a portable listserv, like
the ones found on VM machines. This would handily automate the list, and
the package would not be machine specific. I don't know how far the project
has gone.

Bob
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