HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Dorn's Undergroud Cavern.
Date: Sat,  9 Jan 93 02:02:49 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Subject: Mitchell Caverns and Dorn Underground Cavern.
   If a person is looking for the Underground City near Cadiz and Danby, 
Calif. it might be good to know a little more about that general area. 
Before hearing about the city I had heard about a person by the name of Mr. 
Dorn who had found a cave opening going down into a mountain that has a name 
 that sounds like Mount Keoweef. It's over close to Cima, Calif between 
Barstow and Needles, Calif. 
  Dorn was doing some prospecting when he went into the moutain and found a 
large inner area with a large open area that had a high ceiling. There was a 
small stream running through the cavern and he panned out some gold, brought 
it out and sold it. He then organized a group to develope the area but 
something happened and someone blew up the entrance a little ways down in 
the cave entrance. A large company was said to have bought the rights to the 
cavern and sealed it off. They also put some guards around the area to keep 
people out for a few years, but it has never been opened up. You should also 
realize that more UFO are seen in this area than any other place I have even 
been in.
  A US government ownes a cavern that takes people into it  and is called 
Mitchell Caverns and it is in that general area.
  My friend Marge Bell used to live just south of the filling station at 
Cadiz. Once she was going to bury her dead pet dog and proceeded to dig a 
hole just a few feet south of her house. She dug down a foot or two and then 
hit a hole.  She then took a 25 feet garden hose and put a weight on the end 
of the hose and let it down into the hole. She couldn't reach the bottom so 
she put on another 25 feet piece of hose and still couldn't reach bottom. It 
scared her so much that she covered up the hose and didn't tell any one else 
about it. She thought the whole area might fall in and take her with it. 
  I have a feeling that the hole is part of an underground cavern that would 
go for miles and maybe connect to the underground city, Mitchell Caverns and 
Dorn's Cavern.
  Marge Bell has now moved away to 29 Palms, Calif. Her husband Mr. Bell died, 
her next husband died but she said that her husbands always died with a 
smile on their face.
John Winston.
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
From: agwing@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (Andrew Wing)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,rec.music.newage,rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: 'Newage' music
Date: 11 Jan 93 18:22:53 GMT
Followup-To: talk.religion.newage,rec.music.newage,rec.music.folk
Organization: Temple University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Daniel Segard (dsegard@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:

:  > Only a druid can send effective subliminal messages in a
:  > language you don't understand. I propose a high tech solution: a
:  > subliminal message speech detector in every CD player and radio,
:  > with language modules to include Gaelic.

:        Let me know if you get one of these developed, I think I want one.
: <grin>  Hopefully it would include reverse logic as well so that we can
: detect any backmasking.  <snicker>

	What?  You mean that this stuff wasn't included in the PASC system
for DCC?  Well I guess Tipper & Co. will just have to lobby some more... ;->

--
v2002a@vm.temple.edu     (preferred)
v2002a%templevm.bitnet@pucc.princeton.edu
agwing@picasso.ocis.temple.edu    (last resort)

Any disclaimer issued by me is subject to change without notice
From: nin15b63@merrimack.edu (The Wolf)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: Abraham's credibility
Date: 7 Jan 93 22:19:12 GMT
Organization: Merrimack College, No. Andover, MA, USA

In article <C0Ft81.E6G@panix.com>, moskowit@panix.com (Len Moskowitz) writes:
> 
> The entity that a person channels reflects the character of the
> channeler.  
> What kind of person is Esther Hicks?  

She strikes me as sincere, honest, and down-to-earth.  

>Is she a person of good character?  

Well, I trusted her when I met her.

> Is she kind?  

Oh yes.

> Are her values to be repsected?  

By whom :)?  I might not be one to ask; I don't put much stock in values.

> Does she have a family?  

A hubby and at least one daughter.  Her husband, Jerry, works with her as she
channels.

> What can you tell us about her that will help us know whether she and
>"Abraham" are to be repsected and trusted?

Well, I can only speak for myself.  I agree that the entity reflects the
channeler (and that, over time, the channeler might be influenced by the
entity).  Therefore, I took it for granted that Esther's character would be in 
line with Abraham's, and I like Abraham.   

The overall message that Abraham delivers is one I want to hear.  Essentially,
each of our thoughts, beliefs, feelings (vibrations), etc. are what attract
events to ourselves.  They emphasize the importance of joy and
self-appreciation, or at least appreciation.  They give me a feeling of power
and calm.

I am a big Seth fan, and Esther and Jerry mentioned having read Seth on their
introduction tape.  If you want a little insight, I would recommend dropping a
note to them asking for info on Abe, and they will send you the intro tape, in
which Jerry and Esther talk for a while and then Esther channels Abe while
Jerry asks the questions.

-- 
-----
 Andy Harrington                      | nin15b63@merrimack.edu
 Computer Geek                        | aharrington@ldbvax.lotus.com
 Merrimack College, North Andover, MA | I'm too sexy for this network.
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
From: a111@mindlink.bc.ca (Anthony J. Lynn)
Subject: taoism
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:22:21 GMT

Does anyone know of any groups or mailing lists that deal with Taoism?

--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Anthony Lynn - (a111@mindlink.bc.ca)

"Get the car, Krantz," he screamed. "Get the car, get the car!..." - L.Cohen
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Present Lives.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 15:19:29 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Dear Folks: This thing about reincarnation really gets complicated.
I know a lady by the name of Sister Thedra who is aware of another 
person who she also is who is a middle aged housewife and another
lady who she also is who comes from Venus and attends UFO study
meetings. In that body she is young and very pretty. To sum it up she
is aware of three bodies that she is in.
John Winston.
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Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Zen And Dannyism
From: <E03SI@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Friday, 8 Jan 1993 09:48:35 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

                   WHAT DO YOU THINK?

   "Every Everyday fact
          of Science or Common Sense
    is a Window
          into the Unknown Source
    of All Things."
                                             Cyberpunk Pouggie
                                             January 8th, 1993
---------------------------------------------------------------------
E03SI@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Keeper ot the Danny Pouget On-going
Biography archival effort.
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From: cwatters@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Coyt D Watters)
Subject: Re: I give up! (was Re: Ancient Atomic Blasts. Part 2.)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:51:49 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.142503.14835@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu> gorski@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (Tom Gorski) writes:
>
>Can somebody email me directions as to how to put all posts from
>J_-_W into my Kill File?  I'm running rn on Ultrix 4.2 or 4.3, for
>what that's worth.

Ok, here's the scoop.

Get into rn, and get to a.a.v.

Enter <ctrl>k

As the last line in the killfile, add

/John_-_Winston/h:=:j

Exit your editor (and save).

This will scan the header for all references to John_-_Winston, display the 
subject lines, and junk the articles.

-Coyt
From: serb@polisci.umn.edu (Scott Erb)
Subject: Re: July 4, 1992 - Global Spiritual Independence Day
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:32:56 GMT

In article <322699264DN5.62R@testsys.isis.org> doug@testsys.isis.org (Doug Thompson) writes:

>Acknowledgements:  Who could even think about Usenet in 1993 without a
>reference to the enormous debt owed by the net to John_-_Winston who,
>in case anyone was wondering, is not really an ordinary human at all,
>but rather is an angel.  I know this is a secret which wasn't s'posed
>to get out, but the devil made me do it.
>----------------------------------------------------------------------

I was watching an old Star Trek show last night, and the actor playing Lt. 
Kyle was named John Winston.  Could Star Trek be real and Winston from the 
future?
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Satan
Date: Thu,  7 Jan 93 02:19:38 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Dear Folks: I just sent the questions off to Satan. We'll now see
if he will answer my in my E-mail.
John Winston.
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors
From: gorski@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (Tom Gorski)
Subject: I give up! (was Re: Ancient Atomic Blasts. Part 2.)
Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, University of Wisconsin
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 14:25:03 GMT

In article <73367@cup.portal.com> John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>Subject: Ancient Nuclear Blasts. Part 2. 
>  Here is some more information about evidence of very hot blasts  of energy 
>in the past.
...

Speaking of hot blasts (of air, that is, as in that electronic windbag,
John_-_Winston), I've finally had enough.

Can somebody email me directions as to how to put all posts from
J_-_W into my Kill File?  I'm running rn on Ultrix 4.2 or 4.3, for
what that's worth.

Thanks--

--Tom Gorski
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Answers.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 09:04:36 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Dear Friends: Someone asked what you should do if you are contacted
by and E.T. The answer is all the above. Only about 5 per cent of the 
aliens are going to have you for dinner. In most cases  a good rule 
to follow is to not fool around with anything that has scales (Reps)
and I don't mean republicans. By their fruits shall ye know them is 
still a good rule. Be a fruit inspector. If you really want to get 
complicated, contact your higher self and bring in the information or
question about whether the E.T. is good or not into your head, let 
it go into your solar plexus and see if you get a good feeling. If 
it is not safe for you to contact the space people you will feel a 
weezy feeling and run to the nearest exit.
John Winston.
From: max@megatek.com (Max Elliot)
Subject: Re: Ancient Atomic Blasts. Part 2.
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:16:02 GMT


  Foolish person includes 500 line reprint just to add his one liner...

>>John Winston., 
> 
> 
> what does this guy take?  DMA??

  That's MDA. And, no, he doesn't. He just plagiarizes people who do...
  Try cutting the followup down to a few lines next time...

-Max
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Astral Train Repair.
Date: Wed,  6 Jan 93 09:53:14 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Dear Folks: Bad news the Astral Train is still in the repair shop. They
can only get that thing to go two times the speed of light and it 
should go at least 6,000 times the speed of light like the space ships
from Legart do in free space. They say that when you get to the speed
of light squared then you can burst through a planet as if it wasn't 
there because you a in another space time continuum. The man we 
called E. should be back then ready to lead the train again on that 
date and be ready to run the train. The lady we call J. has the 
phewmonia and I don't mean pneumonia. From now on out I'm not going
to make anyone mad. I wish Don Showen would explain to us the speed of
the Pleiadian space ships in outter space and the speed they travel
when they are near planets. It is marvelous, marvelous.
John Winston.
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From: jeffp@netcom.com (Jeff)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: They Made Us.
Date: 12 Jan 93 23:48:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1993Jan12.234832.4059
Organization: BeHereNow


Gosh John,

You have outdone yourself with this post...

Thanks so much for posting it, very interesting. I feel sorry for those
with you in thier kill files.

Jeff-
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
From: fretts@willee.enet.dec.com (Carole Fretts)
Subject: Re: Abraham's credibility
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:08:24 GMT


 I liked the tone of Abraham's message.

 Carole
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
From: goff@intruder.navo.navy.mil (Victoria Goff)
Subject: Re: Satans E-mail.
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-26865]: intruder.navo.navy.mil
Reply-To: goff@pops.navo.navy.mil
Organization: POPS Facility Managment
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:23:15 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.010739.26915@tc.fluke.COM>, emery@tc.fluke.COM (John Emery) writes:
|> -------------
|> 
|> At the time of your rebellion, you made the proclamation that you would
|> be like God and your throne would ascend to heaven.  You took 1/3 of
|> the angels in your rebellion.  However, you were cast out, falling from
|> heaven like lightning, you and your angels.  When you saw what had 
|> happened, did you not realize that you did wrong?  Was there no place
|> in your heart to admit your sin and repent in hopes that God might be
|> merciful?  Look at the redeemed.  They, too, have been guilty of rebellion.
|> Yet they admitted there wrong and humbly repented.  Why couldn't you
|> do the same thing?  I know, I know, you hate the redeemed.  But I thought
|> I would still ask.
|> 

He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from
the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that 
he might destroy the works of the devil.  I John 4:8



-- 
-Victoria Day Goff           Disclaimer: my opinions are my own. 
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From: v22964qs@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Mike Cluff)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: Astral Train Repair.
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:20:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <73023@cup.portal.com>, John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes...
>Dear Folks: Bad news the Astral Train is still in the repair shop. 

Good thing I decided to buy tickets for the Astral Plane instead... :-)

******************************************************************************
For God so loved the world that He gave Man Free Will and then got pissed when
we didn't meet his arbitrary standards.  Oh, and he had his Son offed when he
realized how impossible those standards were.  -- Michael 4:23
******************************************************************************
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,alt.religion.kibology
Subject: Operation Awareness.
Date: Wed,  6 Jan 93 02:57:04 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Dear Folks: Someone asked about the TV movie Intruders and Operation 
Awareness. The TV movie was very close to the truth and it may have 
been financed partially by funds from the project that our government
set up called Operation Awareness. That project was set up to supply
funds to promote TV shows, movies and authors to write books that
would tell the truth about UFOs to get the public accustomed to the 
alien presence.
John Winston.
From: fretts@willee.enet.dec.com (Carole Fretts)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: California's earthquake
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:39:38 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1993Jan9.131911.62575@cc.usu.edu>, slsdh@cc.usu.edu writes...
>Did anyone see sightings last night? Apparently there is a prophecy about a
>monumental earthquake (they said f/ Nostradamus) occuring in California on May
>5 of this year at 705 pm. Does anyone know more about this? Was the prophecy
>taken out of context?
> 
>-Austin

I have heard one other prediction close to this.  Gordon-Michael Scallion,
in his publication "The Earth Changes Report", is predicting a 95% 
probability that the mega-quake in California will hit by May 9, 1993.
A few months back, he predicted that if a quake occurred in the Indian
Ocean and caused a tidal wave greater than 50 ft., than the CA mega-quake
would occur within 120 days.  That event in the Indian Ocean did occur
(with a 75 ft. tidal wave) in early December.

In addition to this, I read an article on a research project done by an
astrologer on the connection between eclipses and large earthquakes.
From her study using the eclipse events as well as astro-carto-graphy
charts corresponding the eclipse planetary/angular placements to 
geographic locations, a high percentage of particular planetary/angular
placements occurred over areas where large quakes later occurred,
some quickly - others a few months later.  The lunar eclipse of December 
9th had Pluto conjunct the Midheaven running right through California.

Carole
From: moskowit@panix.com (Len Moskowitz)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: Abraham on the earth changes (Long)
Date: 6 Jan 93 14:50:25 GMT
Organization: Panix Public Access Internet & Unix, NYC



The entity that a person channels reflects the character of the
channeler.  

What kind of person is Esther Hicks?  Is she a person of
good character?  Is she kind?  Are her values to be repsected?  Does she
have a family?  What can you tell us about her that will help us know
whether she and "Abraham" are to be repsected and trusted?



-- 
Len Moskowitz
moskowit@panix.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,rec.music.newage,rec.music.folk
From: james@wrs.com (James Moore)
Subject: Re: 'Newage' music
Reply-To: james@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:32:42 GMT

irilyth@fenris.claremont.edu (Josh Smith) writes:

>What I'm really interested in, though, is why Christian folks mentioned
>Clannad and Enya in their discussion of the evils of "New Age".

What puzzles me is why they think of Clannad as "new age."  Their early
stuff is pretty solidly Irish traditional, and their later stuff seems
to me like a cross between traditional and what an old roommate called
"seventies schlock rock."  (I must admit that, while I think early Clannad
is wonderful, I find their later stuff totally unlistenable.)

If you're going to attach a label to it, what's wrong with folk rock?  I
think groups like Clannad and Capercaille have far more in common with,
say, Steeleye Span and Fairport Convention than with what I think of as
the "new age" sound.  Of course, this is biased by my musical experience;
I haven't really listened to much new age music.

-- 
James Moore                            /|\                        james@wrs.com
Wind River Systems                     \|/                  Alameda, California
	 "Half of what he said meant something else, and the other half
			  didn't mean anything at all"
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
From: dsegard@nyx.cs.du.edu (Daniel Segard)
Subject: Re: 'Newage' music
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 18:24:42 GMT


  dal3@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (dale.e.parson) writes:
 >> With so much of such music being sung in Gaelic I don't imagine that
 >                                           ^^^^^^
 >>anyone could find an objectionable content to most of the lyrics since
the
 >>number of people who understand Gaelic is no doubt a very small
percentage
 >>of those who actually listen to these albums.
 >
 >  The Gaelic's probably it: fear of creeping druidism.

        Yes, I suppose upon giving it further consideration that some might
fear lyrics that aren't in English for fear that the lyrics might be some
sort of incantation or spell.  If there was any real power to a recorded
incantation or spell being played (prayer wheels somehow come to mind) then
I could certainly understand the concern.

 > Only a druid can send effective subliminal messages in a
 > language you don't understand. I propose a high tech solution: a
 > subliminal message speech detector in every CD player and radio,
 > with language modules to include Gaelic.

       Let me know if you get one of these developed, I think I want one.
<grin>  Hopefully it would include reverse logic as well so that we can
detect any backmasking.  <snicker>


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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Satan Information.
Date: Fri,  8 Jan 93 01:53:06 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <73104@cup.portal.com>

1>+					
Dear Folks: Some more things 
have come up that are going to 
have an effect of the operation of the Astral Train. I have recently gone on 
the evening shift and am working from 4 PM till 12 PM. I do have sunday and 
monday nights off so maybe something can be worked out. 
  Let me be truthful now and state that many of you are concerned with me 
sending E-mail to Satan . Let me now confess that I realize that this person 
who says he is Satan is not really Satan. The person who was once Lucifer I 
think is alive and well and living in sunny, southern Calif. and he a good 
person trying to undo what he did in the past. 
    As R. Nixon once said, "I just wanted to make it perfectly clear."
John Winston.
John Winston.
GwG

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Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
From: lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich)
Subject: Re: Present Lives.
Organization: LLNL
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 06:11:11 GMT

In article <73326@cup.portal.com> John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>Dear Folks: This thing about reincarnation really gets complicated.
>I know a lady by the name of Sister Thedra who is aware of another 
>person who she also is who is a middle aged housewife and another
>lady who she also is who comes from Venus and attends UFO study
>meetings. In that body she is young and very pretty. To sum it up she
>is aware of three bodies that she is in.

	Comes from Venus?

	Does she complain that it is too cold here? That the air is
too thin? That our atmosphere's composition is all wrong?

	This is really entertaining.
-- 
/Loren Petrich, the Master Blaster
/lip@s1.gov
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic