HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Re: ali baba the tough guy
Originator: sehari@vincent2.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 18:42:38 GMT

In <28600035@hplred.HP.COM> moussavi@hplred.HP.COM (Farshid Moussavi) writes:


>>P.S.
>>Due to aid disease, bring your own (baadkoonek) for protection and
>>Use the back-door as an emergency door in case of police raids or
>>Sogholi's arrival.
>>
>>	    ************************************************
>>	    * ALI BABA, not a legend, but the shining      *
>>	    *       star of the 1996 olmpic                *
>>	    * **********************************************

>Who's your role model, asshole?? Mike Tyson??

>If Salman Rushdie's punishment is death in Islam, what does Islam prescribe
>for Ali Baba's highly intellectual post?  I guess if it's a non-believer
>then any crap can fly, huh. Is this the "effat" and morality that your Islam
>aims to achieve by covering women?  I marvel at its success. 

>Now we know the real source of your logic.  It's much smaller than you think,
>and that's why your logic is so weak.  Put this newsgroup to good use, and 
>get your brain out of your pants!!

>Agha Javad
>(closed today out of disgust)

Hey, you get insult for insult.  Our way is always, to answer an eye for
an eye.  When people insult our secret religious leaders, we do answer back.
As we said before, if you do not want to be a fair game, do not start.

                                 With highest regards,
                                      Babak   Sehari.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala)
Subject: Re: What is MKO position on the Islands?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:29:03 GMT

saied@cwis.unomaha.edu (Saied*) writes:

>yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala) writes:
>>ghbr@fmg.bt.co.uk (Hossein Bagherzadeh Rafsanjani) writes:
>[Rafsanjani's excellent article removed]
>>>Let's put people before land.  Then call ourselves true patriots.

>>Which people?
>>Does Iranian mean anything without Iran?
>>How is what you are saying different than what QAAJAAR did to Iran?
>>According to what you say we should quickly submit any peice of land claimed
>>by others in order to make peace.  Imagine Iran without Azarbaijaan,
>>Baluchestaan, Turkaman sahraa and Kurdestaan.
>>I never said that we should go to war with different countries over land.
>>In this case Arab states are too weak to count for anyhting.  In fact this
>>is Americans that claim the Islands not the Arabs.
>>Should we submit to them to make peace?
>>What should we submit after Persian Gulf?
>>You just seem to be so peacefully submiting to the will of superpowers.

>Ala, I really feel sorry for you to have such an interprtation
>of Hossein's article. Where did Hossein conclude or implied that
>"you" should submit land to make peace?

HB Rafsanjaani (HBR) says:
Iranians in its internal or external policies.  Even with a democratic
government, force (and possible) war is no way of solving territorial
disputes of these kinds.  Instead, international bodies (such as the
International Court) should be used for these and other international
disputes.  They may arbiterate aginast Iran in this or that dispute,
but that is the price we should be ready to pay in exchange for peace
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~				~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Saeid bee setaareh:
Did you read the above sentence?  If you did
What is your interpretation of the above statement?

>You really sound like the Khomeini regime (or actually you are
>re-echoing them) when you use words like "American", "superpowers",
>etc. Hossein is not "peacefully" submitting to superpowers; it is
>people like you who easily fall into the trap of (and submit to)
>dictatorial regimes like those of Pahlavi and Khomeini.

I did not know about American and superpowers when I was born.
I learned them from such people like Mohammad Haneef, Sa'eed Mohsen,
and Ahmad Rezaa'ee.  Are these people also falling into Khomeini trap?!
Or they were with the Pahlavi dynasty?

I still think the way they used to think.  This is you and your devious
friends who are now fallen into the trap of the US and other dictatorial
regimes.

Feel sorry for yourself.
I feel sorry for you too.

Ala
From: NTH, Dep. Inorganic Chemistry,7034,Trondheim,Norway (Ramin Shamsili)
Subject: Re: Shahrokh's apology
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 15:38:57 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.010409.12704@wuecl.wustl.edu>, seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian) writes:
> 
> In article <ldmpjtINNmbv@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi) writes:
> 
> >ooooh!  have i made the emaam angry?  well hazrate seyed, i sincerely
> >apologize from the very heart of my bottom :).
> 
> Since you are an Abelian group of junk, there is absolutely no difference
> between your "heart of the bottom" and your "bottom of the heart".
> Therefore your apology is accepted! And no problem! I know that you are 
> very sincere and don't intend to make me angry. After all, you are a very 
> good clown. If you keep working hard like this, you may even become
> "sar dalghak". And best of all, it doesn't need brain! So you see, you
> have all the qualifications! I will recommend you for this job, but I
> don't promise anything.
> 
> Seyyed.
> 
>

Doostan!
As far as I have seen,all of you are good entertainers!
But couldnt you instead of arguing about the status of your hearts and bottoms 
find something else to discuss?  
Ithink, so far, most of you have failed in discussing social,cultural or religious matters in a 
mature way.I hope that you could solve your personal problems via e-mail and that
that you could leave this forum for more costructive discussions.
My regards;
ramin  

Ramin Shams ili
e-mail : ramins@kjemi.unit.no
From: navab@tasmanie.inria.fr (Nassir Navab)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Physics-1A Question
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:32:30 GMT
Reply-To: navab@sophia.inria.fr
Organization: Inria Sophia Antipolis

In article <1992Oct6.163641.3227@wuecl.wustl.edu>, seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct6.135048.18308@Princeton.EDU> bsadeghi@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Behzad Sadeghi) writes:
|> >In article <ld22tlINNrff@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi) writes:
|> >
|> >you pick #3, because the probability for the prize to be there
|> >is %66 vs %33 for door #1.
|> >
|> >behzad
|> 
|> Wrong! "Given that #2 is empty", #1 and #3 are again equiprobable, and this is
|> consistent with intuition, because your first choice (of #1) doesn't affect
|> anything. For a simple proof of this, consider x1,x2,x3 as three random 
|> variables representing the state of the doors. x1=0 means no prize behind
|> door #1, x1=1 means there is a prize behind door #1, and so on. Obviously
|> x1+x2+x3=1. Now P(x1=1,x3=0 | x2=0)=P(x1=1,x2=0,x3=0)/P(x2=0). P(x2=0) is
|> the "apriori" probability, therefore P(x2=0)=1-P(x2=1)=2/3
|> P(x1=1,x2=0,x3=0)=P(x1=1) because x1+x2+x3=1, therefore it equals 1/3.
|> So the final "conditional" probability is equal to (1/3)/(2/3)=1/2, which
|> is the desired result.
|> However there is a good probability that shahrokh is just joking. I tell you,
|> this man can't ever be serious. It's an advantage you know, whenever you fail,
|> you say that it was a joke!
|> 
|> >
|> >p.s. okay, where is my prize?
|> >
|> 
|> Your prize is a golden passe-gardani which will be given to you in MehrAbAd
|> airport.
|> 
|> Seyyed.

I am sorry Seyyed, but it seems that you didn't understand the "conditional"
probability. The choice of the door to be opened after your first choice is 
also conditioned by your first choice!!
Behzad answer is correct. 
Keeping always your first choice means betting on the correctness of your 
first choice of probability 1/3.
Changing always your choice means betting on your wrong first choice of 
probability 2/3. 
And  therefore Behzad is correct. 
If you need more explanation here are all the different possibilities:
    First choice             Change/Keep             Prize/empty
     Prize	        	Change			Empty
     Empty1			Change			Prize
     Empty2			Change			Prize
     Prize			Keep			Prize
     Empty1		        Keep			Empty
     Empty2		        Keep			Empty


Result: over six situation 3 are winning and 3 are not; but
2/3 of situations are winners if you always change your choice and
1/3 of situations are winners if you always keep your first choice.

Did you understand Seyed ?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Khuzestan
From: desert@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (Desert Man...)
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:11:51 MST
 <1992Oct8.023140.1@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu> <1992Oct8.235943.12113@netcom.com>
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Univ. of Arizona...,TSN, AZ...
Nntp-Posting-User: desert

In article <1992Oct8.235943.12113@netcom.com>, bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi) writes:
> In article <1992Oct8.023140.1@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu> desert@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (Desert Man...) writes:
> 
>>Here are a few more... See if you can guess them...
>>
>>	o  Oolaa	o  A`cheh	o  Le-Vaa	o  Kanee-saa
>>	o  Eelaa	o  Mooflangi	o  Harrysaa	o  Kelek
>>	o  Mi	     XX	o  Dolabb	o  ShavAdoon	o  Reet
>>	o  Shoomee	o  Sar Oo	o  Gajjdoom
> 
> Not that I know anything about dezfuli, but could this word mean 'komod'
> or as they say drawer?  We used to say 'doolAb.'
> 

You're perfectly correct... I left an `o' out...  We had a few komods in the 
house... But there was this one main komod that my brothers and I would try
very hard to get access to it (lots of cookies, sweats, and etc were kept there)
but we were NEVER successful!!!  And now when i think of it, I STILL wonder HOW
in the world, MOTHERs can out smart their kids!!!  you know!?   *grin*

Best wishes...

Ali...
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ccit.arizona.edu!desert@netcom.com
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From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Kazakhstan Official Denies Nuclear Warheads Sold To Iran
Date: 14 Oct 92 05:15:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: class1.sehari.719039723
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Originator: sehari@class1.iastate.edu

---
10/13 (DJ) Kazakhstan Official Denies Nuclear Warheads Sold To Iran 

    ALMA-ATA, Kazakhstan -AP- Government officials denied a report by an
Iranian opposition group that Tehran had struck a deal to buy four
nuclear warheads from this former Soviet republic.
    The report also was dismissed by a spokesman for the Moscow military
headquarters of the Commonwealth of Independent States.
    Yesterday, Mohammed Mohaddesin, director of international relations
for the People's Mujahedeen opposition group, said in Washington that
its agents inside Iran had obtained information about the deal.  The
warheads have been paid for but not delivered, he said.
    Seitkazy Matayev, press secretary to Kazakhstan President Nursultan
Nazarbayev, denied such a deal had been made.
    ''This is not the first time such reports have appeared in foreign
newspapers,'' he said. ''We are sick and tired of such reports.  The
president pays no attention to such reports.''
    Matayev said Kazakhstan signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty
in May, and ''we are obliged not to sell warheads or technology in
accordance with this treaty.''
    10:12 AM
                                 -END-
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mahin@reg.triumf.ca 
Subject: A sad sad situation
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 05:06:00 GMT

My favourite mosalmoon writes:

>Now back to your kind tebAbat for mahin, I don't think that your diagnosis
>is correct. She doesn't need help in "language". After all,
> 
>kal agar tabib boudi         sare khod davA nomoudi
> 
>But she still needs your help. You see, I was wondering what's wrong with
>this female; even if she had eaten "maghze khar", she wouldn't behave like 
>this. Now I think that I have a working theory; she needs a husband !!!
> 
>in zabAne harzeh rA taghsir nist      darde bi darmAne ou bi-shoharist!
> 
>Other animals also have similar strange behaviour when it's time for pairing.
>So my suggestion is that you ask her to marry you! I am serious. Don't be so
>shy, because there are lots of other koor-o-kar-o-cholAgh-o-kachal who are 
>potential candidates, and if you delay, you might loose this incredible 
>opportunity.  So be self confident, don't panic, wear your best suit, don't 
>forget atr-o-odkolon, buy her ye joft kafsh, az oun kafshAye melli-o ... and 
>ask: ... hAlA rAzi shodi ?
> 
>Seyyed

You know, I almost died from laughter as I was reading this masterpiece.  I
could not for, the life of me, figure out what the relevance was between my
articles and marriage.  I meant to write and ask about it but after
thinking about it for a while the reason for such response and a few others
like it dawned on me.

I recall having heard that back in Iran or generally among the Iranian society
anywhere, there seems to be a tendency to oppose any peculiar idea or behaviour,
especially if it's coming from a female.  Now, there are a few rather effective
methods to intimidate these females such as throwing sexual remarks, use of 
foul language or, as we have read above, suggest flirting for marriage.  Of 
course, any of these methods is sure to intimidate most Iranian women causing
them to continue mainstreaming.  Personally, having left Iran at a young age
I was never exposed to these attitudes and remarks, but I do find them 
interesting, funny and sometimes silly.  Although, there is one thing that I
find very sad and that is the fact that many people, Iranian females in
particular, are reluctant to express themselves in fear of being treated as 
such, resulting in a very stagnant and conservative culture.

And as for you Seyyed joon, well, these conventional methods don't work on
me dear.  You'll have to use your brain, for a change.  

Mahin
            *** Bandwidth, a terrible thing to waste ***

                                       - H. Zainab


Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: Re: Monty Hall Paradox (was Re: Physics-1A Question)
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 16:40:51 GMT

seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian) writes:
>mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack) writes:
>
>> => ...  The basis to my solution is that Monty Hall knows which box
>> => contains the prize and when he can open either of two boxes without
>> => exposing the prize, he chooses between them at random ...
>
>kalak zadi nAgholA !!! I supposed that everything is done randomly!

Then you didn't read the problem very carefully. Shahrokh, in his
original post stated the problem as:

 => i open one of the other two doors, say door #2, and show you that 
 => there is no prize behind it.

"...and SHOW YOU that there is NO PRIZE behind it...".

And in my post, I stated the problem as:

 => You pick one door, but before you open it, Monty opens one of the two
 => remaining doors and shows that it hides a goat.

"...and SHOWS that it hides A GOAT..."

Do these imply that Monty is opening the door at random? What if
there is a prize behind it?

>Nobody
>said that the boxes are oppened according to a particular strategy.

See above.

>Seyyed.
>
>p.s. you are late mack jAn, Reza Modarres gave a similar explanation
>before you!

So sorry for being late. I have a life, you know. By the way, I like
RezA's explanation better than mine. Afterall, he is the "ostAd" and I
the "shAgerd". But even his explanantion indicates that depending on
Monty's strategy, by switching you will increase the probability of
winning the prize to *at least* a half. This is far from what you
wrote.

    --mack

--
She's closing her eyes, then she takes me away,
and she's pulling the strings, when she's playing with love.
She's playing with love.                       --Alphaville
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Fred Rice)
Subject: Re: hejab question
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 09:58:59 GMT

In <28600033@hplred.HP.COM> moussavi@hplred.HP.COM (Farshid Moussavi) writes:

>Dear fellow netters,

>A while back when the hejab issue was being "discussed", a few of our
>friends explained that a rationale for enforcing hejab is that it minimizes or
>lowers the probability of acts of lust in society.  I then asked this forum
>why, then are not bullet proof vests enforced to minimize or lower
>the probability of murder in society?  No one has responded to this question,
>yet, and I am seriously interested if our pro-hejab-enforcement friends
>have an answer to this.  Until now, the only explanation I have heard
>besides the above rationale is that it is a divine ruling, which I cannot 
>argue with.

>If the only explanation is a divine ruling, then don't give us such rationales.
>And if you do give us such rationales, I would greatly appreciate an answer
>to my question, thank you.

One can take your argument to any extreme.

There is a possibility that a swarm of bees may sting you, killing
you, hence, you should always wear bee-protective clothing.

Perhaps you prefer to argue in the other direction.... in which case, 
there should be no required safety regulations at work, for you would 
laugh at the possibility that someone could get injured.

etc.

There are various degrees to which you can take anything.  Islam specifies 
a particular degree.

 Fred Rice
 darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.arabic
From: farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri)
Subject: Re: Seyyed's view of exiles
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:31:52 GMT

In article seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian) writes:
|> In article farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri) writes:
|> >In article seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian) writes:
|> >|> 
|> >|>Farshid, you and lots of other people, are always welcome back to your
|> >|>country.
|> >|>Just stop mocking people, and don't get involved in political issues.
|> >|>Keep your opinion for yourself. How do you know, maybe you are really
|> >|>wrong! Don't destroy all the bridges behind yourself. Stick to your
|> >|>field of knowledge and try to build your country. Look, your country
|> >|>will not be built by accusing its political leadership and insulting
|> >|>them in a foreign country. Don't choose the easy way of just "objecting".
|> >|>Go to your country, and try to deal with real problems, and try to be
|> >|>positive.
|> >|> 
|> >|> Seyyed.
|> >
|> >
|> >What he means is,  be a SHEEP and do whatever your masters say.
|> >
|> >Baa aaa aaa aaa aaa aaa aa
|> >
|> 
|> I am not suggesting EVERYBODY to stay away from politics. This is my sincere
|> suggestion to YOU, because you don't know how to play with fire and you'll
|> get burnt.
|> 
|> Seyyed.

Why not?   Please elaborate on this!  What do you mean by burnt?
           ( embarrassed, murdered, labeled kAfar,spy...)

What you say is,  go ahead do politics but try not change the system 
no matter how corrupt and destructive the system is.  

--

You really don't know the meaning of freedom, do you Seyyed?  


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From: hossein@nu.Berkeley.EDU (Karbalie Hossein)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: HAVE YOU NOT HEARD OF EMAIL???
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:22:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucsbcsl.5930
Reply-To: hossein@nu.Berkeley.EDU (Karbalie Hossein)


Doostane Aziz,
	Once again I wasted a good 10 minutes of my time
browsing the headings of the SCI. I dare say that over
70% of the material were personal and had little ot do
with anything Iranian or Cultural or even Social. Just
trying to remind all netters that this is a forum for 
discussion of materials related to Iran and its culture,
hence the name soc.culture.iran. Please use email (It is 
another form of communication suitable for insults, 
sexual desires, fantasies, frustrations and back stabbing) 
for personal communication. As said by a fellow netter

	*** Bandwidth is a terrible thing to waste ****

--Kal Hossein

	*** Time is a terrible thing to wase ***
	*** specially if it is mine and you ***
	*** are wasting it ***
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian)
Subject: Shame on you Zafar!
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:20:19 GMT

In article <Bw2n6H.A58@ucunix.san.uc.edu> minhaszt@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Zafar T Minhas) writes:

>to all you dumb shits out there. i think that your sexual slurs against a female
>are totally repulsive, and even though i think she is an arrogant dumb shit
>who thinks she is always right and likes to put down others who disagree with
>her, i don't think it is appropriate or very islamic for the defenders of
>islam to use non-islamic tactics to get a point across, in islam the end does
>not justify the means. 
>to our intellectual atheists, science is not the end all be all of knowledge
>or existence. science is only the beginning. you guys should know better.
>i'll talk to you later.
>
>zafar

Shame on you Zafar! All this mess happened because of YOU and your awkward
discussion with Mahin. How dare you condemn others while you called Mahin
"honey" and still are using bad words. Shall I remind you of your words of
wisdom:

> I see myself as doing Da'wah, and I am doing Da'wah the way the Prophets did,
> the way the Quran did. "Do it in a way that is better than the rest." To get
> mad, to get upset, be sarcastic, etc. is not the way of a Da'i.

I see! Is this the way the Prophet(s) did Da'wa?!!!
Shame on you and your logic and your personality.

Seyyed.
From: hrostami@dhvx20.csudh.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: An observation
Date: 16 Oct 92 22:50:33 GMT
Organization: CSU, DOMINGUEZ HILLS

SalAm doostAn-eh hamvatan,

As a new reader of SCI, I was happy to find a newsgroup to which I could
relate. However, I found some of the postings here inappropriate and 
irrelevant to what the real purpose of this group might be.  Unless I am
wrong, I think that the ultimate goal of this group is to share ideas of a
more profound nature.  But then again,  nothing is perfect. 

Hamid Rostami
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: hrostami@dhvx20.csudh.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: TEST
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:37:32 GMT
Organization: CSU, DOMINGUEZ HILLS

THIS IS A TEST
From: taqwaa@equinox.unr.edu (Muhammad Taqwaa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Do we have this group any more?
Date: 13 Oct 92 03:00:50 GMT
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno

Dear Friends,
I cant receive articles on this group any more.
If we have S.C.I send E-mail to me.
With high regard
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.rights.human