From: jewell@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Larry Jewell)
Newsgroups: soc.veterans
Subject: 'NamVet Newsletter, Vol.5, no.10 (7/7)
Date: 22 Aug 92 02:25:48 GMT


        opportunity for Mr. Stamaris' talents until he completes his 
        recovery.
          "While  both  you and I are under tremendous  pressure  to 
        contain  costs,  I  believe reducing the pay,  benefits  and 
        stature of an injured war soldier and former prisoner of war 
        is NO place to save money."
     
       The  Army  responded  that the matter was  under  review.  Early 
     yesterday afternoon, Stamaris said all he could do was hope.
     
       "Right now, no news is good news," he said.
     
       At  midafternoon,  the Army office called Miller's office to say 
     Stamaris will NOT be temporarily retired.
       "Why  would  they  retire a war hero who has done  so  much  for 
     them?" Miller said.
       "We're breathing a big sigh of relief," Stamaris' wife said.
       The  Army decision is oral -- not yet in writing.  It didn't  go 
     into  the  reasons.  It  didn't need to.  They  are  obvious.  Why 
     Stamaris had to be put through this wringer is NOT.....
     _________________________________________________________________
     
     Bush  is  very good at sending them there and then when  they  are 
     lucky  enough to come home,  he will not help take care of them... 
                  What a travesty of justice!!!
     
                                     --  Marsha
     











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     ==================================================================
                                 Sister Vets
     ==================================================================

                  Vietnam Women's Memorial Project, Inc.
                              "Sister Search"
                        Submitted by: Martha Green
                        VETLink #1 - Pittsfield, MA
                              (413) 443-6313
     
     The  Vietnam  Women's  Memorial Project's  "SISTER  SEARCH"  is  a 
     program  designed  to locate the military and civilian  women  who 
     served their country during the Vietnam War.
     
     The  goals of "SISTER SEARCH"  are to facilitate hope and  healing 
     among women veterans; to provide a network for them; and to assist 
     research efforts on women who served during the Vietnam War.
     
     Vietnam   era  women  veterans  are  asked  to  provide  as   much 
     information  as they feel comfortable sharing.   Although  "Sister 
     Search" is NOT a locator service,  should an inquiry be made as to 
     whereabouts of a person included in the "SISTER SEARCH"  database, 
     the VWMP will pass the inquiry along in writing to the individual, 
     allowing her to decide whether she would like to respond.   If the 
     individual  is deceased,  the inquiry will be sent to the  closest 
     family member identified by the VWMP.
     
     All   women  veterans  in  the  "SISTER  SEARCH"   database   will 
     periodically  receive  information on the Project's  progress  and 
     ultimately  receive an invitation to the dedication ceremonies  in 
     Washington, D.C.
     
     The  Vietnam Women's Memorial Project is a  non-profit,  volunteer 
     organization  with the threefold purpose of:  educating the public 
     about  the women who served during the Vietnam era;  locating  and 
     providing  a  network  for these women;  and placing  a  realistic 
     representation  of  a Vietnam woman veteran on the grounds of  the 
     Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington, DC.   The Project has the 
     support  of every major veterans group in America,  including  the 
     Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund.
     
     For more information, contact:
     
                              "SISTER SEARCH"
                              Vietnam Women's Memorial Project
                              2001 'S' Street NW
                              Suite #302
                              Washington DC  20009
     










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            Even a small donation
     
                        can make a monumental difference.
     
     
     Efforts are now underway to erect a monument on the grounds of the
     Vietnam Veterans Memorial that recognizes the role played by women
     veterans.  The Vietnam Women's Memorial Project is conducting this
     drive  as part of a  larger effort to  educate all Americans about
     the vital services provided  by over  265,000 women,  military and
     civilian, during the Vietnam War.
                                         O
         O                              O
          O                            O
           O                          O
            O                        O
             O                      O
              O                    O Your contribution, large or small,
               O                  O will help ensure that these women's
                O                O  sacrifices are not forgotten.
                 O __________   O
                  O          ) O
                 /(O)       / O\
                /          / O  \
               / VIETNAM  /      \
              /  WOMEN'S /HONORING\
             / MEMORIAL /\   THE   \
            /  PROJECT /  \ WOMEN   \
           /          /    \ WHO     \
          /          /      \ SERVED /
         (__________/        \      /
                              \    /
                               \  /
                                \/
      _
     /_/ Yes, I want to help honor America's Women Vietnam veterans.
         My tax-deductible contribution is enclosed.
      _
     /_/ Send me more information about how I can help make this dream
         a reality.
      _
     /_/ I am a woman who served during the Vietnam era.
     
     NAME ____________________________________________________________
     ADDRESS _________________________________________________________
     CITY ______________________________________  STATE ______________
     ZIP ____________________ PHONE __________________________________
     
     Clip and mail along with your contribution to:
              VWMP
              2001 S St., NW Suite 710
              Washington, DC  20009
     
                     VIETNAM WOMEN'S MEMORIAL PROJECT
                       A legacy of Healing and Hope
     
     

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                  Vietnam Women's Memorial Project, Inc.
           2001 'S' Street NW - Suite 302 - Washington DC 20009
                    (202) 328-7253  FAX: (202) 328-0063
                        Submitted by: Martha Green
                        VETLink #1 - Pittsfield, MA
                              (413) 443-6313
     
                               SISTER SEARCH
     
     Name:________________________Vietnam Era Name: ___________________
                                  (If different)
     Address:_____________________________________ Work #: ____/_______
     City:________________ State: __ Zip:________  Home #:
     
     Branch of Service or
     Civilian Organization: ___________________________________________
     
                           In-Country (Vietnam)
     Assignment #1: ___________________________________________________
     Start Date: ___________________________ End Date: ________________
     Assignment #2: ___________________________________________________
     Start Date: ___________________________ End Date: ________________
     Assignment #3: ___________________________________________________
     Start Date: ___________________________ End Date: ________________
     
                          Vietnam Era (1959-1975)
     Assignment: ______________________________________________________
     Start Date: ___________________________ End Date: ________________
     
     The  Project  receives inquires from the press and researchers  in 
     search  of  Vietnam  era women veterans who are willing  to  share 
     their experiences.Your participation as a press/research/education 
     contact is strictly optional.
     
     I  authorize  the Vietnam Women's Memorial Project to  release  my 
     name  to individuals or organizations who are seeking  information 
     on  Vietnam era women veterans for press inquirries,  research  or 
     educational activities.
     
     Signature ________________________________________ Date __________
     
     I  authorize  the Vietnam Women's Memorial Project to  release  my 
     name  to the National Associate Volunteer,  Regional and/or  State 
     Coordinator in my area.
     -------------------|
     FOR OFFICE USE     |
     DATE RECEIVED:     |
                        | Signature ___________________ Date __________
     TRANSFER:          |
                        | Please  list  the names and addresses of  any 
     ENTER:             | other  Vietnam era women veterans you know on 
                        | the back of this form.
                        |
     COMMENTS:          |
     -------------------| Thank you for participating in SISTER SEARCH
     



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                       VIETNAM_VETS and NamVet: Where?
                             By Charlie Revie
                    NamVet's KOTL (Keeper of the List)
                    Desert Dolphin BBS - Las Cruces, NM
                              (505) 523-2811
     
     [Note from Joe - The following is a list of where the VIETNAM_VETS 
     echo has been known to be available for users to access and post 
     messages.  Charlie and his team of Angels (Charlies Angels) keep
     a constant monitor on the echo and, should a new entry be noticed,
     it is quickly added to the list.  If you notice that the BBS where
     YOU access is NOT listed, please post a message in VIETNAM_VETS to
     let us - and other vets - know where it is being received.
                                        Thanx - Joe]
     
     AL Huntsville      Gateway               205-880-7723
     AZ Chandler        Hog Trough!           602-899-3386
     AZ Phoenix         NCMC BBS              602-840-4752
     AZ Phoenix         Nighthawk             602-995-3321
     AZ Phoenix         The Ranch             602-780-9180
     CA Anaheim         CA Self Help Library  714-952-2110 NL*
     CA Azusa           Azusa Pacific         818-969-9542
     CA Azusa           Azusa Pacific         818-969-9170
     CA Benicia         Byte Out of the Apple 707-747-5406
     CA Benicia         Byte Out of the Apple 707-747-0306
     CA Benicia         DCC BBS               707-746-6091
     CA Burlingame      SeaHunt BBS           415-344-4348
     CA Castro Valley   Combat Arms           510-537-1777
     CA Folsom          Second Opinion        916-985-4720
     CA Los Angeles     SoCalNet EC           213-874-9484
     CA Navato          Mover Mouse BBS       714-898-2644
     CA Oxnard          SURFBOARD BBS         805-483-1467
     CA Pataluma        Nauvoo West           707-763-4485
     CA Sacramento      Broken Rose           916-971-0589
     CA Sacramento      Now and Zen Opus      916-962-1952
     CA Sacramento      WorldView I           916-739-8386
     CA San Jose        24 Hours A Day        408-448-1126
     CA Twentynine Palm Desert Night RBBS     619-361-3421
     CN Regina, Sask    Holistic BBS          306-789-9909
     CO Colorado Sprgs  Coffee House          719-596-1565
     CO Colorado Sprgs  Electronic Locksmith  719-390-9249
     CO Fountain        Military Connection   719-391-9387
     CT Branford        Alice's Restaurant    203-488-1115
     CT Branford        Fernwood              203-483-0348
     CT Cheshire        Soapbox BBS           293-271-2249
     CT Concord         Online Computer Reso  415-687-0230
     CT Danbury         Treasure Island(E-N*) 203-791-8532 NL
     CT Plantsville     The Pig Pen           203-628-9346
     CT Plantsville     The Pig Pen           203-620-0562
     CT Southington     DownStairs            203-621-1930
     CT West Haven      Ascii Neighborhood    203-934-9852 NL
     DE Dover           DELFIRE               302-739-6757
     DE New Castle      De New Castle BBS     302-328-3993
     FL Clarcona        West Orange BBS       407-293-2724
     FL Kissimmee       The Program Exchange  407-870-2735
     FL Orlando         Digital Connection    407-896-0494
     FL Orlando         Freedom Line BBS      407-423-2111 NL
     FL Orlando         Gourmet Delight       407-649-4136
     GA Albany          2/121st IN-formation  912-430-4543
     
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     GA Athens          Classic City-Node #2  404-548-0130 NL
     GA Athens          Classic City          404-548-0726 NL
     GA Hephzibah       FORT KNOX'S BBS       404-592-6527
     GA Savannah        Night Owl             912-964-4266
     GA Savannah        Night Owl             912-964-1161
     GA Savannah        Night Owl             912-964-2425
     GA Savannah        Night Owl             912-964-1121
     GA Savannah        Night Owl             912-966-1167
     IA Des Moines      FOG-LINE              515-964-7934
     IA Des Moines      KARMA *VS* DOGMA      515-288-7793
     ID Boise           Compulink Northwest   208-375-4073
     IL Chicago         NETWORK Echogate      312-427-1395
     IN Ft. Wayne       Semper Fi             219-424-4292
     LA New Orleans     MUG BBS (Line 2)      504-837-8180
     LA New Orleans     Southern Star         504-885-5928
     MA Amherst         Pioneer Valley PCUG1  413-256-1037
     MA Andover         AEOLUS BBS            508-474-0328
     MA Dalton          Field St.BBS(E-N)     413-684-1938 NL
     MA Lynn            Freedom's Choice      617-593-2605 NL
     MA Pepperell       Region 16 Echo Coord  508-433-8452
     MA Pittsfield      Berkshire Estates BBS 413-499-1327 NL
     MA Pittsfield      VETLink #1            413-443-6313 NL
     MD Baltimore       Jim's Hooch           301-866-8613 NL
     MD Baltimore       PainFrame BBS         301-488-7461
     MD Shady Side      VetLink #4            301-261-5644 NL
     MD Silver Spring   Light Source BBS      301-439-7437
     MI Spring Arbor    The Toy House         517-750-2003
     MO Cape Girardeau  VETLink #3            314-334-6359 NL
     MS Vicksburg       Southern Belle        601-634-1625
     MS Vicksburg       The Wishing Well      601-638-7056
     NC Charlotte       Carolina Forum        704-568-1663
                                              704-563-5857
     NC Fayetteville    Federal Post          919-436-2055
     NC Havelock        Dragon Quest II       919-447-3321
     NC Raleigh         InfoSys               919-851-8460
     NC Raleigh         Shalom-3              919-851-3858
     NH Merrimack       Outer Limits          603-424-4915
     NJ Garfield        Quill & Inkpot BBS    201-340-1340
     NJ Lyndhurst       Starship ][           201-935-1485
     NJ Lyndhurst       Starship ][           201-935-7036
     NJ Passaic         VetLink #5            201-778-1879 NL
     NM Alamogordo      Casa de La Luz        505-437-8267 NL
     NM Las Cruces      Desert Dolphin        505-523-2811 NL
     NM Las Cruces      MelMikes BBS          505-521-1527 NL
     NM Las Cruces      NASW (E-N)            505-646-2858 NL
     NV Las Vegas       Sports_Line           702-565-5271
     NV Reno            Deceiver_System       702-322-6570
     NY Marlboro        ACORN I               914-236-3265
     NY Phoenix         G A L A X I A !       315-695-4436
     NY Rochester       Flower City           716-889-2016
     OH Akron           Buckeye Hamshack      216-867-6984
     OH Cincinnati      KIC-BBS               513-762-1115
     OH Rocky River     Nerd Nook II          216-356-1872
     OH Rocky River     Nerd Nook             216-356-1431
     OK Lawton          DarkStar              405-248-9884
     OR Beaverton       Chess Board           503-629-5473
     OR Portland        Landing Zone          503-254-6819 NL
     PA Bensalem        Backbone Collection   215-638-8367
     PA Butler          Info Exchange Rbbs    412-482-4721
     
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     PA Carlisle        L & T's Spitfire! BBS 717-243-0055
     PA Harrisburg      The Other BBS         717-657-8699
     PA Johnstown       The Family BBS        814-536-7617 NL
     TN Memphis         Memphis Mail Hub      901-763-1427
     TN Nashville       Homestead             615-385-9421
     TN Nashville       Unicorn & Dragon      615-385-2260
     TX Arlington       DD Connection         817-261-6309
     TX Corpus Christi  SEABAT BBS            512-387-6638
     TX Corpus Christi  Ye MailRoom           512-855-7584
     TX Dallas          Chrysalis             214-349-9397
     TX DeSoto          Diamond Lil's Saloon  214-228-9173
     TX Houston         The Fireside          713-496-6319
     TX Houston         LAW=ON=LINE (down)    713-526-0719
     TX Houston         Leaders in Control    713-584-1821
     TX Houston         Texas Fathers For ER  713-376-4767
     TX Houston         TreeShare Genealogica 713-342-1174
     TX Katy            Executive Washroom    713-347-2558 NL
     TX Lake Travis     Crystal Palace        513-335-7949
     TX Missouri City   Soldier's Bored       713-437-2859
     TX Pasadena        Pier 7                713-477-2681
     TX Portland        Garfield              512-643-7858
     TX Rosenberg       Merlin's Keep         713-342-7629
     TX San Antonio     Heidi Search Center   512-659-2305
     TX Universal City  The Ranch House       512-945-9304
     VA Falls Church    Grey Eagle            703-534-0177
     VA Herndon         HBX Veterans Memorial 703-471-8010 NL
     VA Herndon         HBX Veterans Memorial 703-471-8563 NL
     VA Newport News    Brokedown Palace      804-591-8537
     VA Newport News    OBSESSIONS            804-887-2140
     VA Norfolk         Apex                  804-436-3125
     VA Virginia Beach  HandiNet B B S        804-496-3320
     VA Williamsburg    Rainbow's End         804-872-7171
     WA Bremerton       Jimby BBS             206-698-1044 NL
     WA Everett         Mark's Point!         206-486-2415
     WA Everett         Silver Lake           206-338-3723
     WA Everett         Silver Lake Too       206-338-3168
     WA Ft. Lewis       Silent Sentry BBS     206-984-1048
     WA Graham          Last Frontier RA      206-847-8168
     WA Redmond         GreyHounds BBS        206-868-4402
     WA Seattle         Puget Sound TBBS      206-745-6340
     WA Spokane         Think Tank II         509-244-6446
     WA Tacoma          Group Medical BBS     206-581-9088
     WI Milwaukee       PC-Express            414-327-5300
     ** Bremerton, WA   British Hands Off     <Point-Only>
     ** Corpus Christi  Corrosion by the Ocea <Point-Only>
     ** Custer, SD      GOTCHA!               <Point-Only>
     ** Phoenix, AZ     Hirschfeld Law Office <Point-Only>
     ** Pittsfield, MA  VetPoint 707          <Point-Only>
     ** Portland, OR    The Empty Bed Pan    ?<Point-Only>
     ** ............... Any Port in the Storm <Point Only>
     ** ............... OLD Soldiers Home     <Point-Only>
     ** ............... Support our men       <Point-Only>
     ** ............... Vietnam vets, a tough ...-...-....
     ======================================================
     (*) KEY:
     E-N = No IVVEC Echo,but does have Nam_Vet newsletter
     NL  = Carries both IVVEC and Nam_Vet newsletter
     

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         Some Gave ALL ...                      Some Still Give!!!
     
     
     
               O                                      O
                O                    SOME GAVE ALL  ...
         ________O__________________________________O______________
        !         O                                O               !
        ! pow mia pow mia - BRING THEM HOME NOW! - pow mia pow mia !
        !           O                            O                 !
        ! ~~~~~ ~ ~  O~   ~~~ ~~ ~~ ~~~~~~ ~~~~ O ~~ ~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~~ !
        ! ~~~~ ~ ~~   O ~~~~ ~~~ ~~~  ~~~  ~~ ~O~~~ ~~~  ~ ~~~~ ~~ !
        ! ~ ~~ ~  ~~ ~ O~ ~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~~~ O ~~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~ !
        ! ~~~  ~~ ~~ ~  O ~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~ O ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~ ~ !
        ! ~~ ~~ ~~~ ~~ ~ O ~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~ O ~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~ !
        !  ~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~  O ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~  O ~ ~~ ~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~ ~~ !
        ! ~  ~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~  O ~_~_~_~_~_ ~ O ~  ~~~~ ~ ~ ~~~ ~~ ~~  !
        ! ~~~ ~ ~ ~~~ ~~ ~  O          ) O ~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~~ !
        ! ~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ /(O)       / O \ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~~ ~ ~ !
        ! ~ ~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~  /          / O   \~~~~ ~~ ~~~~~ ~~~ ~~ ~ !
        !  ~~ ~ ~  ~~ ~~ / PRISONER /       \~~ ~~ ~~ ~~~ ~ ~~~~~~ !
        ! ~  ~~ ~~ ~~ ~ /          / MISSING \~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~~ ~ ~~ !
        ! ~~~  ~ ~~ ~~ /   OF     /\          \~~ ~~ ~~~ ~~ ~~~~ ~ !
        ! ~ ~~~~ ~~ ~ /          /  \   IN     \~ ~~~~ ~~ ~~~ ~~~  !
        ! ~~~  ~~~ ~ /    WAR   / ~~ \          \  ~~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ !
        ! ~ ~~ ~~ ~ /          / ~ ~~ \  ACTION /  ~~ ~~ ~~~ ~~ ~~ !
        ! ~~ ~~ ~~~(__________/ ~~ ~~~ \       /   ~~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ !
        ! ~~~~~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~~ ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~~ \     /  ~~ ~~~ ~~ ~~~ ~~~ !
        ! ~~ ~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~ ~~~ \   / ~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~~~~~  !
        ! ~~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~~ ~~~ \ /~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ ~  !
        ! ~ ~~ ~~~ ~~ ~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~ ~~~ ~ ~~~ ~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~ ~~ ~~
        !  ~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~~ ~ ~~~ ~~ ~~~~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~ SOME STILL GIVE
        ! ~ ~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~
        ! ~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~ ~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~~~~ !
        ! mia pow mia pow - BRING THEM HOME NOW! - mia pow mia pow !
        !__________________________________________________________!
     
     
     
     
     
     









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