From: s9874194@phobos.ucc.umass.edu (s9874194)
Subject: Re: A New Fa-Guo-Nan-Cai Theory :-)  Re: A real story
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:02:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.001353.8157@news.acns.nwu.edu>, usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns) writes...
>In article <26AUG199218420483@phobos.ucc.umass.edu>  
>s9874194@phobos.ucc.umass.edu (s9874194) writes:
>> In article <1992Aug26.182523.1319@news.acns.nwu.edu>,  
>usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns) writes...
>> >In article <BtKLp3.Fr6@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> xiong@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Bo  
>Xiong)  
>> >writes:
>> >> In article <1992Aug25.234727.8644@ulowell.ulowell.edu> 
>> >> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:
>> >> >In article <1992Aug25.222406.6965@ulowell.ulowell.edu> 
>> >> >cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:
>> > 
>> > 
>> >In my opinion, Xiong, you don't have to pay too much attention to this kind  
>of  
>> >people. I guess every society has some people who are not satisfied with  
>> >anything. China certainly has too.
>> > 
>> >Before they came out, they complained a lot about the CCP and CG because  
>they  
>> >were not satisfied. They thought the US would satisfy them. Now they are in  
>the  
>> >US and found that US is far from satisfactory. What can they do? Nothing but  
>> >talking about going back and dreaming of theirs glorious past, and even the  
>> >oppresing CCP becomes a loving party to them. I don't know if they will  
>really  
>> >go back, or just moan around. But one thing seems certain, if they go back,  
>> >they will complain about CCP again. Then they will probably think of leaving  
>> >China and going to the Moon.
>> > 
>> >Carl
>> Carl, you are absolutely right. I just want to point out that there are some 
>> people who are just the oppisite. When they were in China, they were the 
>> "Reddist". They had been saying what ever the Party wanted them to say and
>> doing what ever it was necessary for them to "Claim the Steps (Xian4 Shang4
>> Pai2)". Now, they are in US, they will not only say every thing here is
>> wonderful, but also everything back home is disguesting. The more they "hate"
>> their homes, they feel, the more likely they could grasp a chance to stay  
>here
>> for the houses, the cars and the green currency here. If somebody say that "I
>> want to go home even my mother is not pretty", I do not feel shame for him.
>> If somebody say "I want to stay here because my Mom is ugly", what do you
>> feel, Carl.
>> -- Daniel Yang
>> -- University of Massachusetts.
> 
> 
> 
>First of all, I fully agree with you. There are quite a lot of CSS here were  
>communist members back in China. I have to point out that even back then, very  
>few of them were real communists. They were just opportunists. This is also why  
>I thought and still think CCP is quite stupid. They have been recruiting  
>opportunists for years. These opportunists are really the "tomb digger" for the  
>CCP. Since they are such a bunch of opportunists, it's not so surprising to see  
>their performance here. 
> 
>Yes, if somebody say "I want ot go home even my mother is not pretty", I don't  
>feel shame for him either. In fact I respect them. What I pointed out in the  
>previous post is that there are some people who are just anti-social. They will  
>complain in any kinds of societies. Some of them really even don't know what  
>they are complaining about. I bet you have met this kind of people before. 
> 
>As for the people who want to stay here, I don't think there is anything to  
>blame as long as they are using the right ways. For various reasons they prefer  
>here not because they think their Mom is ugly, but because their Mom is  
>controlled by someone they don't like. They might go back later, or choose to  
>stay here. That their choices, don't you think? I guess this is why the  
>immigration countries like the US, Canada, Australia now have so many people.  
>If all of their ancesters had gone back because they were not suppose to leave  
>their Moms, then there would not have been present US, Canada and Australia.
> 
>Carl 
> 
Carl, I do think that people have the right to chose whether to stay here
or go back. However, my point is that one should talk straight. Do not make
excuses. Do you believe, in your heart that most of us would be punished 
because we are Westernised? Do you realy beleive that we will be seriously
oppressed? Don't you feel some kind (althrough a different kind) of oppression
here?
Daniel
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