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From: pshuang@athena.mit.edu (Ping-Shun Huang)
Subject: Re: Has Colorado created OS/2 drivers?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
	<1992Jul22.125104.2461@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
	<1992Jul22.181240.20232@sbcs.sunysb.edu>
	<Jul23.140301.28666@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 11:00:22 GMT

In article <Jul23.140301.28666@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> greenidd@CS.ColoState.EDU (danielle greenidge) writes:

 > Actually, the software version 2.54 is *NOT* "THE WINDOWS VERSION"
 > Colorado has been advertising. It is only their temporary Windows
 > solutions (they call it their "Windows Launchable software") until
 > the real thing comes out.

I take it then that 2.54 is the same code as the normal DOS version
compiled with a character I/O library to allow it to run as a Windows
program (with frobbing done for hardware access to the tape drive).

Has anyone had experience trying to run one of those under WinOS2, by
the way? I'm somewhat curious because I don't know of any applications
that use them, although I suppose in some ways the libraries that allow
you to recompile your C applications to do this are intended for
vertical market programs for the most part....

--
Ping Huang (INTERNET: pshuang@athena.mit.edu), probably speaking for himself
From: os2man@panix.com (Larry Salomon Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Tetris gripe
Date: 24 Jul 92 02:16:11 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

I have a major gripe to express tonight:

Whilest browsing through one of the trade mags, I noticed a review of 
Desqview/X, while mentioned how it came with the requisite version of 
Tetris.

Time out - didn't OS/2 2.0 beta have a version of Tetris?  Yes, it did;
I know because I wrote it.  IBM Corporate had a problem with paying money
to Spectrum Holobyte (the holder of the copyright) to license the concept
of Tetris so that it can distribute the game with OS/2.  However, Microsoft
never had a problem and now it seems that Desqview's creators (whomever
they are; I never was a Desqview fan) didn't either.

Although I didn't assist in the transformation from its (very humble-looking)
beginnings to what it was in its final distributed form, I was quite proud
to have played a part in its writing mostly because so many people enjoyed
playing it.  Hell, even IBM Legal expressed extreme sorrow when they told me
the final decision, for they played it too and found it highly enjoyable.

Sure, it sounds like I'm griping about losing this simply because I wrote
it, but I'm not really.  What I'm griping about is how this is another
example of IBM playing against itself in the development of OS/2 2.0.
This goes in the catalog of screw ups along with the initial lack of
marketing thrust and other such nonsense that always seem to show up.

To qualm any forays against my integrity, I did not receive any compensation
at all for any of my other contributions to the OS/2 2.0 product.  Thus,
there is/was no financial interest in having Blox/Tetris included.

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From: "stephen dawson" <stephen.dawson@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: os/2's som
Date: 23 Jul 92 09:52:55 EST
Reply-To: "stephen dawson" <stephen.dawson@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

bill.dehaan@rose.com (Bill Dehaan) writes

SD>The WPS has features that I would describe by these terms. Maybe
SD>OS/2's System Object Module has more features than you realize. :-)

BD>We had an IBM  developer up from Boca  going over SOM with  us two weeks
BD>ago. There's a truckload of functionality in there that didn't make  the
BD>documentation.   Some   of   the   stuff   he  showed  us  was  amazing.
BD>Unfortunately, it's undocumented, and not even Cary seems to  completely
BD>understand it yet, so I think I will sit this out for a while.

I haven't received the relevant volume of the Redbooks, but I am
counting on it being fully documented in there!

The volumes I do have are excellent!

    STEPHEN         Look through the Windows and you will see OS/2!
    ^^^^^^^    :-)  Walking and chewing gum at the same time.

 stephen.dawson@canrem.com
 Entered 07-23-92 at 7:36am in Downsview, Ontario

 * DeLuxe2/386 1.25 #3969 * Every culture has myths about creation.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: smsmith@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stephen M Smith)
Subject: Re: Couple of OS/2 problems...
Keywords: OS/2 Headaches
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 01:16:47 GMT

raf4482@rigel.tamu.edu (REID FORREST) writes:

>First and foremost, my IRQs are scribbling all over each other.  I have tried
>everything I know to remap them, and they still are screwed up.  e.g. my Sound
>Master II initializes the printer after DMA playback.  Is there any way in OS/2
>to list the IRQs so I can remap them?

I'm sure you have the problem fixed by now, but you might consider 
getting the msd.exe utility from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.  It's the
Microsoft OS/2 Diagnostic program.  Be sure to run it full screen
(it's a true OS/2 program).  It's the only hardware analyzer that 
I've found that runs under OS/2.  It works great--tells you just
about everything you'd need to know about your system.  Consider
it to be OS/2's equivalent to Quarterdeck's Manifest. :-)

   Steve Smith       | __|__ |    " #*&<-[89s]*(k#$@-_=//a2$]'+=.(2_&*%>,,@
<smsmith@magnus.acs. |   |   |      {7%*@,..":27g)-=,#*:.#,/6&1*.4-,l@#9:-) "
  ohio-state.edu>    |   |   | 
  BTW, WYSInaWYG     |   |   |                           --witty.saying.ARC 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Re: The Ultimate OS/2 FTP Source
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 04:35:28 GMT

rolfe@w3vh.UUCP (Rolfe Tessem) writes:
> 
> (flames to /dev/null please -- whoops, does OS/2 have a /dev/null?)

Yep, but it would probably be called /dev/nul

If you do a COPY CON, it tells you it is copying to /dev/con. I can only
presume that /dev/nul will therefor also exist. (I seem to rememebr it
does).

-- 
Tom J Parry.
Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
From: jot@teak09.cray.com (Otto Tennant)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 Printer Drivers and WINOS2
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:52:41 GMT
Distribution: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.

I have been trying to find the correct printer driver for my HP
DeskJet 500.  (Thanks to the net for providing suggestions.)

After some experimentation, I discover that WordStar for Windows now
thinks that I have five assorted printer drivers --- every one of
which causes WSFW to curl up and die.

One deletes an OS/2 printer driver merely by dragging it to the
shredder.

How does one delete the equivalent thing in WINOS2?
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From: kiehl@ibt013.ibt.kfa-juelich.de (Horst Kiehl)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Current & parent dir entries in HPFS root
Keywords: current & parent, HPFS root
Date: 22 Jul 92 07:28:49 GMT
Reply-To: kiehl@ibt013.ibt.kfa-juelich.de (Horst Kiehl)
Organization: Forschungszentrum Juelich GmbH (KFA), Germany

In my HPFS root directory I have a current and a parent directory entry --
those that are usual in subdirectories but not in parent directories.
(Or am I missing this being different on an HPFS drive?)

These entries are not visible in the various views of a drive's contents
but when I use DIR I can see them. CHKDSK doesn't remove these entries.
They have the same date as the OS2 directory so probably they're as old
as my OS/2 installation.

My disk is a 198 Mbyte SCSI disk through an Adaptec 15xx adapter.
It's partitioned as 100 Mbyte FAT (BIGDOS) (primary), 97 Mbyte HPFS (logical),
and 1 Mbyte for the Boot Manager.

Is there a fix to this problem?

Thanks in advance,

Horst
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: etxlgnn@hfetxz30.ericsson.se
Subject: Re: Grrr...2.0 can't be "this" slow, can it????
Organization: Ericsson
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 05:57:58 GMT

In  <1992Jul30.041907.19373@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>  laird@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Kyler Laird) writes:
  
> At work, however, I decided to install v2.0 on a standalone
> 386DX-25 today.  Mildly:  it sucks!  I've got 8MB, and it's
> awful.  I'm running HPFS and all I see are disk accesses
> when I do anything.  Win-OS2 is a snail.  DeScribe 3.0 drags
> on and on.

This configuration should work OK. I recommend that you get the
new kernal which allows the swapfile to shrink. The cache should
be 512K.
>  
> Some of the workstations on the net are 386SX-20's.  I (quite
> literally) shudder to think about how those will perform.
>  
My experience is that you need at least 12 Mbyte on a LAN workstation
to get acceptable performance especially if you use both Communications
Manager and the LAN Requester.
/Goran
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Trident 8514 compat. drivers
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 19:07:48 GMT

In article <dregeczi.712170884@sfu.ca> dregeczi@fraser.sfu.ca (David Joseph Regeczi) writes:
>Can someone tell me what the difference is between the 8514 compatible 
>1024x768x256 drivers and the actual Trident drivers (of the same resolution).
>Is there any distinct advantage to using the 8514 drivers?

They are not 8514/A compatible drivers, they are 8514/A _style_
drivers, meaning you get larger icons, mainly.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: tedm@agora.rain.com (Ted Mittelstaedt)
Subject: RE: The future of OS/2
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 07:51:55 GMT

I think that the idea that Windows support is only going to last a year or so
based on the non-renewal of the "code-sharing" contract between Microsoft and
IBM is extremely simplistic at best, and destructive at worst.
  First of all, companies make and re-negotiate contracts all of the time.  We
have all witnessed Microsoft's flip-flopping between OS/2 & NT, and even IBM is
guilty of the same.  Just because IBM and Microsoft have parted ways this month
does not mean that this will always be the same in the future.  Trying to pre-
dict whether or not Windows support is in OS/2 in the future is a little like
saying 3 years ago that OS/2 is going to be Microsoft's premiere OS today.
  The real reason that that contact was not renewed is that both parties saw no
advantage to renewing it.  Microsoft, on one hand, is convinced that OS/2 will
fade away.  IBM, on the other, wants to take a shot at the PC based Operating
System market, without Microsoft looking over their shoulder.  Since the
vast majority of PC's today still run DOS as their OS, and also run DOS apps,
there really is no clear winner in the Windows vs OS/2 debate yet.
  However, 5 years or so down the line, when the 386'es and their ilk are
ruling the PC market, and one or the other has turned out to be the clear 
winner, then there will be advantages to code sharing.  By then, there will be
a significant base of both OS/2 and Windows APPLICATIONS owners.  For IBM to
ignore the Windows app owners, or Microsoft to ignore the OS/2 app owners,
is a lot like cutting off one's nose to spite their face.  By then, the
patriotic Rah-Rah my-os-is-better-than-your-os bullshit will have cooled, and
both companies will only really be interested in making a buck, and I will
predict will be code sharing.
  There is a lot of marketing bullshit coming out of IBM these days that seems
to try to make OS/2 the "gateway" drug to an IBM world of computing.  I think
that the idea has finally penetrated the "Big Iron" marketing brains in IBM 
that wow OS/2 is actually a success in the PC market, so now they are going to
try to load their deadweight ideas (like a proprietary "Pink" OS, whatever that
is) onto it so it will carry them.  Well, if IBM wants to make definitely sure
that OS/2 dies, they will follow this path.  I think, however, that there are
enough people with intelligence in IBM nowadays that when they see OS/2 getting
bogged down by Pink, S/36, or whatever, that they will yank OS/2 away from
the "big iron" marketing types.  If this occurs, you can bet that they will
be wanting OS/2 to run the competition's programs, and will once again be 
willing to lay out some cash to do so.  (assuming that NT is actually ever
produced, and doesen't implode into a black hole of it's own deadweight.)


Ted Mittelstaedt
tedm@agora.rain.com
From: bking@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Barry King)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Problem replacing *.DLL files 
Keywords: DLL
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 22:57:09 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

menendez@trantor.harris-atd.com (Rolando Menendez) writes:

> 
> Instead, I copied the new files to root (\) and rebooted. The new files were
> apparently used (the black icons disappeared), but I still was not able to 
> move or erase the new files in the root directory. I was able to copy these
> files to /os2/dll to update the old ones, but I can not get rid of the copies
> in the root.
> 
> Before I try to boot from the distribution disk (and run the risk of wipping
> my boot-up and desktop configuration),
> is there a correct replacement procedure which I have not found?
> 
> Please feel free to point me to any specific reading material in which
> this is covered (if any).
> 
> This issue was addressed a few days ago by someone, but I can not recall
> the specific News item.
> 
 
What you did was not so unreasonable.  Now that you are this far, and do 
not want to boot from your installation disketees, simply go in to your 
config.sys and remove the period from the LIBPATH statement as well as 
C:\; if it is there.  Now reboot, delete the DLLs you need to from the 
root of C:.  Edit the config.sys and replace the period and the C:\ that 
you removed earlier.  Reboot.  You are now in business.
 
An easier way to do this is to boot from your installation diskettes.  
You really won't wipe out your hard drive if you follow these 
instructions.  You will be prompted for Diskette #1 after the 
installation diskette is finished.  Insert diskette #1 and hit enter.  
You will eventually get a blue screen with a prompt at the bottom saying 
hit enter to continue or Escape (or is it F3?) to exit.  Do this - select 
the exit option and you will be dropped to an OS/2 full screen command 
prompt with A: as the default drive.  HPFS is loaded so you have full 
access to your harddrive if it is HPFS.  You can manipulate the files on 
your hard drive as you wish.  When you are finished, remove the diskette 
and reboot your machine as you normally would from the hard drive.
 
As long as you escape to the command prompt at the earliest opportunuty, 
the installation diskettes won't do any harm to the existing 
installation.  You could also prepare a boot diskette for such 
sitruations, or use Bott Manager to set up a small bare bones OS/2 boot 
partition.  (oops, that's 'Boot Manager' not 'Bott Manager'...sorry ;-) )
 
Hope this helps!
 
Regards, 
 
Barry

Barry King              bking@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
Edmonton Remote Systems:  Celebrating 10 years of service to Northern Alberta
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: ae18@iamk4516.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de (Michael Neaga)
Subject: Access denied in DOS-Window Session !
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:37:22 GMT

Hello,

can anybody tell me, what is the reason for the message "Access denied", when
I want to start a DOS-executable just after a new installation of the OS/2 2.0
system? All seems to run well, I start from the Command Prompts a DOS-Window
and from their a DOS-program, but OS/2 does not allow any access to the Program.

Thanks, Michael
From: lynnr@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Lynn Rhymes)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:29:36 GMT
Subject: Re: help with 'turbo' mouse
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc

ndZZ
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Subject: Re: HPFS not finding bad blocks
Reply-To: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 17:38:58 GMT


In a previous article, jar@inel.gov (Jeffry A Rich) says:

>I tried sending this "Cry for help" in the Advocacy group, but, apparently that was the wrong area. I'll try again.
>I have a 130mb hard drive with two known media errors on the disk. I can bypass these errors in dos/windows by using pctools.
>When using OS/2 and HPFS, these errors manifest themselves within applications that I've installed on the disk. I was under the impression that if you format the drive while installing OS/2, the file system automatically detects these media errors and wor
>If anyone has any thoughts concerning this problem, I would be most appreciative in hearing them.
>
> Regards,
>   JR Rich

Try booting from floppy and running chkdsk c: /f:3

It may take a while, but it may fix it.
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From: mss2696@tamsun.tamu.edu (Mark Saum)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: OS/2 and SCSI
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:08:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: tamsun.1992Jul28.170815.17927
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station

In article <1992Jul27.203321.20825@news.columbia.edu> mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green) writes:
>Could someone please offer me some advice about the following setup:
>40 Mb IDE
>200 Mb SCSI (AHA1542b)
>
>I am trying to get OS/2 2.0 to allow me to boot from the second disk, the SCSI
>disk, and allow access to the IDE disk, as well.  I set up a Boot Manager
>partition at the beginning of the first disk, and a 32 Mb OS/2 boot partition

I've got a similar setup on my computer.  I have 120 and 44mb IDE drives and
80mb and 65mb scsi's.  The system MUST boot off of the IDE drives, then use
the SCSIAHA Adaptec drivers to access the SCSI drives.  The CMOS will show
the IDE's, then the driver will show the SCSI.  If you tell the SCSI card to
show the SCSI's, then the IDE's will disappear.  You're only solution is to
install a minimal OS/2 setup on the 40mb, then move some of the OS/2 software
as well as the swap file to the 120mb drive.
Otherwise, buy an 80mb IDE drive, or get rid of the 40meg.

Mark


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2,comp.os.os2.misc
From: jardined@qucis.queensu.ca (Donald Jardine)
Subject: Colorado Mem. Sys. Tape Controller
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: backup tape
Organization: Computing & Information Science, Queen's University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:56:15 GMT

Has anyone been successful in running a Colorado Memory Systems tape
drive with an FC-10 Jumperless Tape Controller in a DOS box in OS2.

I have tried the standard VDM, and DOS booted from Drive A:, and the
CMS tape software reports 'No tape controller detected',
or, it reports a 'Tape controller/software incompatibility'
The tape system works perfectly under native DOS, of course.

I have selected an interrupt that is not in use by any other hardware, so
that the common OS2 problem caused by DOS willingness to share interrupts
is removed. I have changed the device address setting and the DMA channel,
and I have disabled concurrent disk/tape operation in the CMS software.
In short, I've tried many of the obvious approaches.

I realize that CMS tapes are NOT currently supported under OS2, and that
they expect to issue OS2 software 4Q92. I would like a work-around until then.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
From: br568@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rose Marie Smith)
Subject: Help! Mouse droppings!
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 15:38:57 GMT


I've been having a pesky problem with a program I'm writing that
uses a separate thread, with a MouReadEventQue loop, to
respond to mouse movements.  When this program runs in full 
screen mode, I need at times to temporarily turn off the mouse
pointer in response to certain keystrokes.  The problem is that 
when the user is entering these keystrokes, the mouse thread
is blocking on the MouReadEventQue, which means that calls to
MouRemovePtr don't work (they return a 121), and the next time
the user moves the mouse, it leaves a 'dropping' at its old
location.

I had hoped to find a solution by examining the code for the
WORMS sample program that comes with the 2.0 toolkit, but, alas,
WORMS also seems to have this problem!  Start it in full screen,
move the mouse pointer to one of the letters at the top of the
screen, and quit by keying the letter E.  Not only does it leave
a mouse dropping, but you will find that the mouse is locked out
if you try to restart the program in the same session!  The 
second problem is solveable by doing a MouClose in ExitList
processing, but I can't figure out how to eliminate the mouse
droppings.  This isn't a problem if you run the program in
a window, but my users want the option of running in full screen
mode.

OS/2 gurus, can you help this newbie programmer?  I need a 
solution that works in either full screen or windows.  Thanks
in advance!

-- 
Rose Marie Smith // Univ. of Wisconsin - Madison
rose.smith@mail.admin.wisc.edu
From: drkszk@ocf.berkeley.edu (Derek Suzuki)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: EMX/GCC question
Date: 25 Jul 1992 02:26:07 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: lightning.berkeley.edu

	Next question...
	I am aware that the EMX port of GCC does not support all of the
OS/2 API.  I also know about the add-on that allows use of the headers
from the IBM Toolkit.  However, this would require more money than I
have.  Are there any plans to complete the PM headers?  They may not
be necessaary for what I plan to do, but then again they might.

Derek Suzuki
drkszk@ocf.berkeley.edu
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: POSIX?
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:32:04 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Jul27.024029.26334@unixg.ubc.ca> ochealth@unixg.ubc.ca (ochealth) writes:
>
>Did I imagine this, or isn't POSIX support going to be part of OS/2?
>Does anyone know what the situation is? When is it available? Is it
>going to be part of the basic OS/2, or is it an extra option (how much?).
>Will it be a full implementation, or just a subset?

You imagined it.  IBM has made no statement concerning POSIX in OS/2.
Microsoft, on the other hand, has pledged compliance to the POSIX spec
for their NT project (I think it's number 1002.1, but I may have the
number wrong).

You may have gotten confused during the discussion of gcc.  The GNU
compiler, gcc, contains a library of unix-like functions to make
porting code easier.  This is nothing more than a library, though, and
has nothing to do with OS/2 proper.

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