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From: MJSU@jylk.jyu.fi (MARKKU J SUIHKONEN, OPIS)
Subject: what's wrong with Jesus Jones?
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:08:21 GMT
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Mike Edwards is a sort of ideal guy for many ladies!
Why? Well, mainly, Mike Edwards seems to have that "intellectual attitude" 
towards everything. I mean he clearly seems to be aware of what's 
going on in the world (not just in England). He's not one of those
musicians talking all the time about fucking and boozing.
He has something to say (at least he thinks so) and I really find his
interviews rather good and entertaining. 

But I must say that in some of his interviews he has showed that he only
wants money, success and a kind of critically acclaimed status as
the one and only frontman of this new rock'n'roll generation!
And he seems to do anything to make his dream come true. I guess
he thinks he's the most important rock composer ever and takes
himself too seriously but let's face it! - a complete moron just 
couldn't do even that.
  
I'm one of those deceived JJ fans. Like everybody else I loved 
'Liquidizer' and "hated" 'Doubt'. Of course it's great if 'Perverse'
is a sort of ground-breaking attempt to commercialise the marriage of 
computers and danceable popgrunge. Then again, the single seems to
be interesting only because of that. 

So, may be Mike Edwards, as talented as he is, tries to swallow too much
this time. After all, he's only supposed to do 3-minute songs. Although
we know there must be a lot going on inside Mike's head he still seems to
come up with quite ambitious ideas disguised in rather trivial rocketroll 
dress and now more than ever he's in danger of losing that edge 
he's famous for...

Pity.


Mrcl


PS  Thanks for fan mail address 
















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From: jlitchfi@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Jon Litchfield)
Subject: Re: SLOAN
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:43:05 GMT

In article <8fIaJRO00WB70fC3tU@andrew.cmu.edu> Michael Hamilton Walker <mw5e+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>I saw a video from a group called Sloan the other night on 120 min, I
>thought it was pretty good and wondered if anybody had a review of their
>album.
>
>I think it was called "Smear"

Ok, a quick review. Its called "Smeared", and it has some awesome songs and somereally lame songs. I bought after hearing it a couple of times at a friend's 
place, and was disappointed after a closer listening. Lately tho, i've been 
listening to it more and its grown on me a bit. Stylistically (sp?), i would
have to say its "grunge-pop". Lots of guitar, no keyboards, harmonies, etc.
I can't think of a good comparison at the moment except to say i would bet  thatthey are Husker Du/Mould/Hart fans. Great songs on the album are: "Underwhelmed""Take It In" and "Sugartune". They also had an ep out before "Smeared" on an
indie label called "The Peppermint Ep". They are from Halifax, Nova Scotia (or,
they live there now at least) and are grads of one of the universities there
(i can't remember which one). I've heard they put on an excellent live show.
From: gavroche@pwrtools.wariat.org (jamie rishaw)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Mailing list list!
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 00:27:04 EST
Organization: Lud's Powertool Boutique--Lakewood, Ohio

Pulse@sound.demon.co.uk (Kelvin Lawson) writes:

| Could someone please post (or mail me) a list of mailing lists (related to th
| newsgroup of course!)
| 
| Cheers
| 
|                   -//-> Pulse@Sound.Demon.Co.UK <-\\-

 
there is a pretty concise *musical list of lists* available - e-mail
MLoL-request@wariat.org  for the most recent update..
 
-jamie

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From: roadrash@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (The Man With No Name)
Subject: Re: HAPPENING LOCAL MUSIC SCENES
Keywords: USA music scenes
Organization: The Urethane Underground
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:42:32 GMT


I am sick of the Seattle Scene(tm) too, and I actually live here!  ;^P

I lost all hope a few months back when the Lemonheads and Julianna
Hatfield played at the Backstage here.  Evan Dando (I think) had the 
striped shirt and greasy bangs carefully arranged to dangle in front
of his eyes just like Cobain in the silly "Pep Rally Dungeon" Nirvana
video on eMpTyV.  The Lemonheads were something of a disappointment.

Although I originally went to see the Lemonheads, it was Julianna 
Hatfield that made the trip worthwhile.  Three things in her favor:

    1.  She took a bath that day.  
        (Hear that Kristen Berry!  Take a bath girl!)
    2.  Her music and style were original.
    3.  Her music and style were entertaining. 

I bought her album on the strength of her performance that night
even though I paid little attention to Blake Babies in the past.
That was the night I saw that "grunge" was definately dead, 
if it ever really lived or existed.

I think it is pointless to try to guess which city will be the next victim 
of the Mass Media Fame Machine(tm).  The hype always will be the same.

Fortunately for me, the Seattle Scene(tm) is only a small subset of 
the music available in Seattle.  I like to listen to "the Three Man Wall
of Sound", Sadhappy (little or no vocals just "Wailing Fucking Bass, 
Drums and Sax").  Also I like Black Happy.  They are kind of like
Chicago Transit Authority and Tower of Power on acid and speed.
I also like to see hard core punk by Bone Cellar, and SICK AND WRONG!!!
"Hide your Wesson Oil(tm), your Wesson Oil(tm), your Wesson Oil(tm)..."

I think I have some brain damage from listening to Sick and Wrong,
and I LIKE IT!!!

"...your Wesson Oil(tm), your Wesson Oil(tm), your Wesson Oil(tm)..."

But since I am not cool, fashionable,or politically correct; 
my opinions are made to be ignored.  ;^7
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Subject: 120 min 10 Jan
From: wildcard@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 11 Jan 93 18:26:52 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University


Just wondering what people thought of Soul Asylum hosting 120 last night.
Were they drunk, or what?

-Thom
Wildcard@vax.mankato.msus.edu
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Subject: Re: Poppies
From: ibhan@husc8.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan)
Date: 4 Jan 93 23:30:06 GMT

>THE LOOKS OR THE LIFESTYLE (1992) 	rating: 9

>As you've probably read, opinions vary greatly on this one.  I like it,  
>particularly because it's got some guitar on it.  There's less rap and  
>more singing, and the percussion is a hell-of-a-lot better because it's  
>real.  It's also very energetic.  Some people may not like it as much  
>since there's not as much sampling or sound effects.  Decide for yourself.

>HIGHLIGHTS: All except for "I've Always Been a Coward Baby" 

I actually like that song, but it's kinda hard to take seriously.  Do you
think that they were making fun of someone with this song?  It seems like
a parody of Depeche Mode or something...    
-- 
               -  Ishir Bhan -  ibhan@husc.harvard.edu  - 
                                     - - - 
           "The sky and the impossible explode..." -The Cure
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From: jsy@Aig.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Jennifer Yu)
Subject: Re: songs with the title "rain"
Organization: NASA/Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:26:41 GMT

"Happy When it Rains"  - Jesus and Mary Chain


Jen
From: itch@cbnews.cb.att.com (richard.m.brack)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Poppies
Date: 4 Jan 93 13:18:54 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <19208@mindlink.bc.ca>, Judith_Beeman@mindlink.bc.ca (Judith Beeman) writes:
> Somebody asked who the fifth guy on the cover of latest recording is...
> 
> The real live drummer! Yep, they went with flesh for the first (?) time.
> 
> ps. I saw them on the tour of their 2nd last recording...forgive me I've
> forgotten the name (and I do agree it wasn't near as good as "this is the

Cure for Sanity ?

> day...". Live they were wonderous. Any plans on them touring in support?

In the back of a fairly recent NME (the one with the Yello interview) PWEI
was listed as playing somewhere.  That's all I really remember.  It wasn't
in the US so I didn't pay much attention.  If there is interest I could
probably check the mag again to get details.


Rich...
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From: rusty@netcom.com (Rusty Duncan)
Subject: Discography for _The Beautiful South_, please...
Keywords: Beautiful South, Housemartins
Organization: Netcom Services
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:01:11 GMT

Any recommendations on their material would be appreciated as well.
E-mail reply is fine.  Thanks.
-- 
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From: ralph@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Ralph Brandi)
Subject: Re: The Embarrassment
Organization: Democrats for Broccoli
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 22:01:42 GMT

In article <C0nKKD.67G@cscns.com> dmp@cscns.com (Douglas Pacchiana) writes:

>I am interested in information on a band from Kansas called
>The Embarrassment. I know they released two EPs in the early
>1980s (The Embarrassment EP and Death Travels West) and
>broke up in 1983. In 1984 a cassette was released called The
>Embarrassment Retrospective. And then in 1988 they recorded
>God Help Us. Can anybody add to this list? Any information
>would be welcome, for instance how long were they together
>the 2nd time? What are the band members doing now? I know
>one of them was in Big Dipper.
 
You've covered just about everything.  Bill Goffrier told me that
there were a couple of early singles on a local label, but you and I
will never see those....  The first EP was re-released in 1988 or
thereabouts with a second side of rehearsal recordings from 1984.
Bar/None was promising/threatening to release a compilation of early
recordings like the Retrospective tape, but never did.

I don't think they've broken up a second time, just been dormant in
the face of public disinterest.  They're probably working at their
day jobs.

Bill Goffrier, the Embos' guitarist, is guitarist and vocalist for
Big Dipper.
-- 
Ralph Brandi     ralph@mtunp.att.com     att!mtunp!ralph
Lay me in clover and over my head pull a sheet made of mirror so I can see
myself and leave me for long time do not disturb my rest for ages and ages for
I am tired and I need some relaxing my mind is cluttered with the days and the
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: grove@uk.tele.nokia.fi (Paddy Grove)
Subject: Re: Poppies
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications, Transmission Product Development,
	Cambridge, UK
	<1993Jan2.093719.8657@midway.uchicago.edu>
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 13:24:43 GMT


alan> ....... _The Looks Or The Lifestyle_ is, at least from the first
alan> couple of listenings, just boring rap over pure pop music... though that
alan> "power exists in everyone!" sample they use in Karmadrone is funny as
alan> hell, at least to me...

I thought it was "Karma exists in everything"

    Paddy


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From: u920381@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Alexander Lum)
Subject: Re: New Nirvana (Where does this material come from)
Organization: University of Tasmania
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 00:38:33 GMT

In article <C0Cz48.8Fy@cs.dal.ca>, graham@ug.cs.dal.ca (Michael Graham) writes:
> 
> What is "The Mark Goodier Session"? and where do the rest of the songs off
> of Incesticide come from (b-sides? unrelased stuff?)?
> 
> Also - who is in picture 4 and 6 in the cd booklet?
> 
> thanks very much
> 
> mike

The Mark Goodier and John Peel Sessions are BBC-1 radio programs in which
bands record new material or re-record old material. This is why the BBC has
rights on some of the material.

"Sliver" was released as a single between "Bleach" and "Nevermind". "Dive" was
the B-side for this single. "Dive" was also released on the Sub Pop
compilation "The Grunge Years".

"Stain" and "Been A Son" were released as B-sides for a British release of the
single "Blew".

"Turnaround", "Molly's Lips", "Son Of A Gun" and "Aneurysm" were recorded as
Peel or Goodier sessions. Along with "D7" and "Even In His Youth" they were
released on the Australian and Japanese limited edition tour EP "Hormoaning".

"(New Wave) Polly" is a punk version of the song "Polly" on "Nevermind". It
was recorded for the Mark Goodier Session.

I think "Hairspray Queen", "Aero Zeppelin" were released on compilations or
bootlegs. "Big Long Now" was a session.

"Mexican Seafood" and "Downer" are among the first material Nirvana recorded.

On the CD cover:
The first three are obviously Kurt Cobain, Chris Novoselic and Dave Grohl.
The sixth looks like Dan Peters from Mudhoney who did the drums on "Sliver".
The fifth is Jason Everman, the second guitarist listed on "Bleach".
The fourth is one of their old drummers, possibly Dale Crover or Chad Channing.

     - Alex
From: cwvst+@pitt.edu (Charles W Van Keuren)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: who sings ???
Date: 4 Jan 93 23:06:39 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1993Jan4.154338.27189@wam.umd.edu> lucchesi@wam.umd.edu (Rob Lucchesi) writes:
>
>Hi,
>
>I've heard this song a cuople of times on the local college station and I
>was wondering who sang it.  So who sings "She likes to make love to Led
>Zeppelin" ?
>
Ah!  You've been listening to the genius of Fish Karma.  I don't know who
Fish Karma is, but I do know that he records some of the funniest and satirical
tunes around.  The LP that "Led Zep" is on is "Sunnyslope".  His last one before that was "Teddy in the Sky with Magnets".  

His music is pretty simple and folky, but the ideas and the themes are great!

As a general guide, if you like King Missile, the Dead Milkmen, Mojo Nixon, and other groups like them, you'll probably like Fish Karma.  Both albums (that I
know of) are on Triple X records.  Check'em out!

-chuck


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From: kardon@rab.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Re: Mekons: new release "Wicked Midnight"
Keywords: Mekons
Reply-To: kardon@rab.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:45:35 GMT


> The first two tracks "Wicked Midnight" and "All I Want" are from the
> "forthcoming" CD entitled I (heart) Mekons.

The cd is due out before the end of the month.  The band was scheduled
to play Boston a few weeks ago, but cancelled the show.  I'm not sure
why they cancelled, or if they had other gigs set up that they played
or not.

I'd love to see them again soon.

-Scott
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: swight@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: RE: 1992 Readers Poll
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 03:32:05 GMT

OOH, so many things to choose from. Well, here are my picks, although 
the order is debatable.....


1-Ministry-Psalm 69
2-Nirvana - Incesticide
3-All-Dot
4-Faith No More-Angel Dust
5-More Songes About Anger, Fear, Sex, & Death- Various(Bad Religion, 
NOFX, Pennywise, Dag Nasty, etc.)

-Chris Dawe

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From: itch@cbnews.cb.att.com (richard.m.brack)
Subject: Re: Poppies
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 01:05:55 GMT

In article <1id0n8INNgfm@moe.ksu.ksu.edu>, diverson@phys.ksu.edu (David Iverson) writes:
> 
> after it's MLD's release.  Of course the cover is a billion times better
> than the original.  As is Love Missile F1-11 on Box Frenzy which is much
> cooler than the original Sigue Sigue Sputnik version.  A check of my vinyl
> says that the SSS version came out in '86 and the PWEI in '87.

I've never heard SSS's version.  What's it like?  Have you heard the one on
PWEI's _There Is No Love Between Us Anymore_ EP?  Way cool!  It's got more
of a Now for a Feast sound to it.  There is also a "grungier" version of
'Ugly' on there.


My second PWEI question of the week: Who's this Buzzard guy anyway?


Rich...
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From: 900082m@axe.acadiau.ca (KATHLEEN MCLEAN)
Subject: Re: Brave New Waves wanted
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 02:34:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.005854.10484@udel.edu> jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu (have clue, will travel) writes:


>Last summer, while I was relaxing in Philadelphia, a local station
>(WXPN -- 88.5 -- ask for it by name) played a ton of no-commercial
>alternative rock weekday evenings, highlighted by an import program
>from Canada (Toronto, I think) called "Brave New Waves".  


>Anyone else heard of this program, or have any taped excerpts?

	Brave New Waves is a Canadian Institution.  It's on CBC Stereo and 
comes out of Montreal.  The current host is Brent Bambury, and it's on from 
12 to 2 or 3 am maybe, from Sunday to Thursday. They used to play week-old 
repeats after 3am, but I don't know if they do any more.  The weekend 
equivalent is called Nightlines, and has more listener input, less profiles 
and interviews.	Any Canadian could probably tape you a copy.
	The profiles are good to tape.  There was a cool one  on Sebado(h?) 
about a month ago.

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
From: bschlesinger@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Barry Schlesinger)
Subject: Re: WDRE Top 300 Request
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:07:00 GMT

In article <1ii2j7INN5lu@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, dpc2@po.CWRU.Edu (David P. Caldwell) writes...
>				... 
>     'Course, my personal opinion is that "pop" has been vanquished on the
>top 40 charts by Dance and Adult Contemporary.  Nearly any song which is in
>the year's top 100 can be classified as Dance, Adult Contemporary, or else
>a crossover from Alternative (eg Red Hot...).  Unless it's by one of the
>dinosaurs like Genesis etc.  So, my theory is that now, traditional rock
>like Del Amitri and Spin Doctors has magically become alternative because
>no one listens to it anymore.  Or something like that.
> 
>     What the heck, it's a lazily constructed theory but perhaps it will
>spawn some discussion.  On that note...
> 
End of the Road
Under the Bridge
November Rain
Achy Breaky Heart
Life Is a Highway
Damn! I Wish I Was Your Lover
Stay
	?

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From: cei308@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Jet Girl)
Subject: Re: Throwing Muses' old 7"
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:42:29 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.092406.1@acad.drake.edu> js3471r@acad.drake.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.043710.11369@news2.cis.umn.edu>, kill0012@student.tc.umn.edu () writes:
>> Can anyone clue me in further?  WAY back (around 1985) I was at a small
>> liberal arts college and DJed at the radio station there.  It was there
>> that I was alerted to the existence of the fabulous THROWING MUSES.  Since
>> I worked at the station, I couldn't bring myself to steal that first
>> 7-inch bit of vinyl that they had released.  I taped it instead.  
>> 
>> But now I find that I'd sell my mother to own that 7_times_pi bit of
>> heaven.  Any leads?  ... Mind you, this was before any 4AD contracts.
>> 
>> --
>> Jennifer Gibb Killmer (that's Jen to you, bub) University of Minnesota
>> kill0012@student.tc.umn.edu                         Minneapolis Campus
>>   I  a m  w o t  I  a m,  a n d  t h a t ' s  a l l  t h a t  I  a m
>I can't actually help with that.  However, I have a similar question.  Thinking 
>that I was purchasing the single you are evidently looking for, I ordered a 7"
>red disk from a New York company that had three Throwing Muses songs on it 
>(an original version of Santa Claus and two others).  The thing is, while the 
>recordings were different from ones I had heard before and the single was not
>on either 4AD or Sire, it had a cpyright date of 1989 or something (I would
>have to look at the singe to get this right and tell you the names of the
>songs, etc.).  Does anyone know the history of this single or what it is
>exactly?  
>
>John Sloop
>JS3471R@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU

I too have that weird record featuring an original Santa Claus, Dirt Is On
The Floor (Kristin looked VERY amused when someone requested that at the
Clapham Grand concert!!!), The Party, an untitled acid rock instumental and 
Stand Up.  I think it was recorded in about 1985/6 or something.
But concerning the other thing about the first Muses record, if that person
gives me some more details of it (title, lyrics) I'll ask Tanya Donelly 
when she comes over to do some Belly dates in February.  BTW, does anyone
know where I can get the lyrics for The Real Ramona from????

LOve and vibes
Joolz
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From: edklein@well.sf.ca.us (Ed Klein)
Subject: Re: songs with rain..
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:44:25 GMT


Sleeping Dogs Wake - "Rain" (from the album "Threnody")

--------
Ed Klein
4906627@mcimail.com
From: spanagel@husc11.harvard.edu (David Spanagel)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Pet Shop Boys & Cicero & other stuff
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:04:12 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

I've got more questions about PSB!!

Have any of you out there heard any the collaboration(s) between
PSB and Cicero? What did you think of it?

What was the highest chart position in the UK of the following PSB
songs:

       DJ Culture
       Was It Worth It?
       Miserablism

Did any of the three songs above chart in the US?

Thanks again.
From: dmp@cscns.com (Douglas Pacchiana)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: The Embarrassment
Date: 10 Jan 93 19:24:12 GMT
Organization: Community_News_Service
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]


 
I am interested in information on a band from Kansas called
The Embarrassment. I know they released two EPs in the early
1980s (The Embarrassment EP and Death Travels West) and
broke up in 1983. In 1984 a cassette was released called The
Embarrassment Retrospective. And then in 1988 they recorded
God Help Us. Can anybody add to this list? Any information
would be welcome, for instance how long were they together
the 2nd time? What are the band members doing now? I know
one of them was in Big Dipper.
 
Thanks,
 
Doug Pacchiana
doug@unix1.realdec.com
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