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From: keulen@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Splash!)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Conflict (was Re: God and Science: The Ramblings of The Nightstalker)
Date: 14 Dec 1992 18:40:25 GMT
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ajm@wag.caltech.edu (Abner J. Mintz) writes:

>Hey!  I don't think you're boring!
Ditto!

>>i just HATE conflict....so much.  i want life to
>>be like a science fiction convention...

>*chortle*  Um, have you ever helped run a science fiction convention?
>It's not something to do unless you *thrive* on conflict.  You see, all the
>people who volunteer to run a con are the ones with *very* strong opinions
>on how it ought to be done ...

Actually, doesn't that apply to most people who volunteer to run anything
... seems that to want to volunteer you've got to have strong feelings
about it; the ones who are dragged in kicking and screaming are the ones
who usually don't have really strong contentious opinions on it, and seem
to get the job done best. (Splash puts in his $.02, based on years of
committee experience.)

Splash!

--
		Splash!		*To love is to LIVE!*
   (aka Mike van Keulen -- e-mail: keulen@csuvax1.murdoch.edu.au)
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Tuesday, 15 Dec 1992 10:03:50 EST
From: Philip J. Comins <PJCHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Arrival of a stranger

    Philip, standing near the bar wondering what kind of appendage the Dalek
should have, just noticed the arrival of someone new! He turns and sees the
elf (he recognised the species immediately as some of his best friends once
were elves) the beautiful wolf accompanying the elf, and Thyra talking. He also
`hears' Thyra say something to Galan (yes, he is nosy too). He waits until she
has introduced herself before approaching, with the  hint of a smile on his
face.  "Hello there, Galan," says Philip as he bows formally to the elf. "Hello
Greywolf ..." he looks at the wolf. "That is one of the most exquistite wolves
I have ever seen ..." Philip grins a bit and extends his hand to the wolf in
hopes that he will realize that Philip is indeed as friendly as he appears.
    Philip straightens up. "Welcome to the Place. We're all friendly round
here." As he turns towards the bar where Mike is filling glasses, Philip
notices that the elf has dropped into a chair and is reading a magical book.
"Ah yes," Philip whispers to himself. "I remember how that works ..."
    Philip thinks to the elf in a tongue he hasn't used in a long while,
<<When you get through studying and replenishing your ability, I'll be glad to
buy you the first drink>>
                                                        -- Philip J. Comins
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: maryb@cix.compulink.co.uk (Mary Branscombe)
Subject: Re: I'm back!
Reply-To: maryb@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 12:30:00 +0000


hi there!
Mary's tail would be waving if it wasn't wrapped around her neck as a 
scarf... it's cold and crisp and clear and gorgeous here... 
yellow-gold-pink sunrise as I wake and Kateri plus friend downstairs 
on the new futon on their whistlestop tour....
welcome back Wolf
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| Organisation: Me? You're joking, right?   |maryb@cix.compulink.co.uk |
|                                           |maryb@cix.compulink.uucp  |
|I know I type "teh" for "the" My fingers have their own accent ;-)    |
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From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Pair-allel Universes
Date: 17 Dec 1992 01:32:06 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <sa3kVB1w165w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>, ekho@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (amanda rothman) writes:
=  Ekho listens to Blake's corollary, makes a sound, and looks up from the 
=chess board.  "Of course you believe that you live in the best of all of 
=the possibilities... It's somewhat like being loyal to your school, 
=state, or country in this time.  (I say in this time, because it is quite 
=different from when I come from.)  But think.  In exactly one-half of
=infinite dimensions, you have found the Place.

Er, no.  Not necessarily.  Remember, the number of ways of finding the place
need not be the same as the number of ways of not finding the place.  Just
because there's a binary decision doesn't mean the odds are 50/50.  Also, the
number of states accessible to the universe may depend on the state that it's
currently in.  So the number of possible states in a universe in which Blake
found the Place need not be the same as the number of possible states in a
univrerse in which which Blake didn't find the place.
From: HC61@lafibm.lafayette.edu (HC61000)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: prejudice
Date: 19 Dec 92 22:00:00 GMT
Organization: Lafayette College
Originator: news@lafcol

In article <105254@bu.edu> mjmh@crsa.bu.edu (Michael J M Holmes) writes:
>In article <1gpg8kINNc9n@gap.caltech.edu> ajm@wag.caltech.edu (Abner J. Mintz) writes:
>
>>Abner nods.  "Just heard one a few days ago.  I think it's funny, but
>>there's definitely a few sharp edges to the joke ...
>
>>WARNING:  If you are easily offended, stop listening now!
>
>>'Did you hear that the gays in San Fransisco are organizing themselves
>>to defend each other from attack?  They're going to call themselves the
>>Pink Panthers!'"
>
>/* scratches his head, mussing up the violet hair.
>
>"Uhm, Abner?  Is that really a joke?  Just a week or so ago
>I saw a report on the local (Boston-area) news about a real
>group of gays and lesbians who were an anti-gay-bashing group
>modeled on the Guardian Angels, and they really did call
>themselves the Pink Panthers.  At least, I think that's
>what the report said."
>
>"Can anybody else confirm/refute this??"
>
>.
I can confirm that. I remember reading about it in the Voice.
>.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: u906451@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Damien Saunders)
Subject: A leaving for good
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:17:50 GMT

Due to my marks this year I will not be returning to University in the 
foreseeable future. So this is goodbye to all the friends I have here in the bar (To many to name without missing someone and offending anyone)

So I would like some letters from anyone who would be interested in hearing
from me on an ocassional basis like a letter every other month. To contact
either Bear, Alfvaen or kitten because they have my snail mail address.

Yes I will finish off the christmas cards I promised to send to some of the
patrons tonight when I get home.

DM please save a copy of the upcoming filk songs and include on that disc.


Mike a dragon's breath please. [ I am going to need it]

"A toast"

"To friends gone but not forgotten!"

<<CRASH!!>>


Damien.

BTW My account goes today, so this is final. :(
--
"The best defence against the atom bomb is not to be there when it goes off."
                British Army Journal 1949
Damien Saunders (Gunnar Njalsson SCA) Email:u906451@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: jpalmer@onetouch.COM (John Palmer)
Subject: Re: Unbe Awakens
Organization: MCS/OneTouch, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 18:52:06 GMT

mjmh@crsa.bu.edu (Michael J M Holmes) writes:

>In article <1992Dec09.222152.14771@onetouch.COM> jpalmer@onetouch.COM (John Palmer) writes:
>"Anyways, Bob does not believe in any God, god, Goddess, goddess, or
>any deity whatsoever.  He does not believe in any form of afterlife
>or reincarnation.  Even my very nondeist, mostly philosophical form
>of Buddhism is too much of a 'religion' to him.  He believes, very
>firmly, that we are simply a higher order of animal, we have a 
>purely physiological existence, and when we die that's it."

>"Is Bob a moral person?  I tend to think so.  He is honest,

    Okay, I agree, he's 'moral' by the particular belief system *I* hold.

>"But he is not religious, nor does he believe in a religion.
>I truly believe, even by your terms, that to call him immoral,
>or amoral, or even non-moral, just doesn't fit.  He can speak
>about his actions meaning something to the physcial universe,
>or to the 'universe' of people, but is still not religious."

    Hmmm.  If he thinks that his actions mean something to the universe, if he
thinks that somehow, his actions would still mean something to the universe
even if the next day the earth crashed into the sun and destroyed all evidence
of humanity, if he believed that even THEN his actions still meant something to
the universe, I would call that a religious belief.  (Even though it doesn't
follow any established religion. . . )  I am NOT saying that he is or should be
a christian, a buddhist, a (fill in the blank), etc, just that this belief is
one that should be labeled religious.

   A person can be moral without being religious. . . but morality does not
lend itself to 'science' as we understand science today.   IF there is a
morality that has that transcendent quality that, even if all evidence of a
good action were wiped away immediately, the 'universe' would still 'care',
that morality would not come about as the result of logic or science (again, as
we understand them.) but as a result of 'religion' (which may well not be the
thing we call religion right now.)
   
    I think the problem is that I'm probably saying NOTHING AT ALL with lots of
words. . . 

    Nothing I've meant (as opposed to 'said') attacks anyone's morality, it
only points out that the basis for that morality might well vanish or change,
or whatever. . . if the BASIS for that morality is some great constant
somethingorother, well, that basis seems to be outside of science and logic,
and thus, 'religious', kindasorta.

                                          John 
-- 
John Palmer					jpalmer@onetouch.COM
Columbus, OH					...!uunet!onetouch!jpalmer
From: JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Thyra)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Arrival of a Stranger
Followup-To: alt.callahans
Date: 15 Dec 1992 00:52:38 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon, Architecture
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aaa.uoregon.edu

In article <1gj3faINNkai@phazer.ksu.ksu.edu>, ffej@phazer.ksu.ksu.edu
(Jeffery Dean Rankin) wrote:
>     "Hello.  My name is Galan and this is my faithful pet Greywolf.  We have 
> heard many things about this place in our travels and decided to come see it 
> for ourselves."  He pats the wolf lovingly on the head.  "I do hope that we're
> not intruding." 

Thyra turns to the new elf in the crowd and smiles. He sees her as a tall,
humanoid woman, with feline ears whiskers and tail. <<Greetings Galan>> her
voice rings sweetly in his inner ear. <<Can you send, as some of the elven
kind do?>> "Hello Galan, I'm Thyra. Welcome to Callahans. There are several
of the elvenkind here, from several worlds. I'd introduce you to Melandra,
from the world of Two Moons, who is another newcomer here, but she seems to
have gone off somewhere. Perhaps she went to get some dreamberries." Thyra
gets down on one knee and looks Greywolf in the eyes. <<Hello wolf-friend!
Warm hearth to you. Friend am I, though form be strange. Welcome Friend
wolf.>> She looks down, not to challenge, and offers him a paw to sniff.
She allows it when he takes her paw in mouth. Then she pets him lightly
behind his ears.

>     He smiles and retreats to a corner table and takes a seat.  Greywolf 
> follows him and lies down at his feet.  Galan makes a sign in the air and
> mumbles a few words and a spellbook appears on the table in front of him. He
> carefully opens the book and becomes absorbed in his studies.

Thyra calls out to him as he is seated. "Can I buy you a drink, friend?"

Purrs,
Thyra
.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: youngj4@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Jeffrey 'Taldin' Young)
Subject: Leaving Takings...
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 16:02:44 GMT


Taldin mumbles to himself anout keeping this short...

He taps out a series of by now familiar commands, and
an Xterm opens up, with an image of himself, sitting
in his room.   Packing crates are scattered about,
and the room is nearly done packed.  

Taldin cashes a buck for a drink, and gulps it quickly.

Toes the line, feels the real tears coming.

"To the home I've called home for the past 3 and a half
years... may the Outpost never fall into enemy hands.
I'll miss this place...
 
To Outpost Xanadu, and RPI...I think I've gotten out in one piece!"

>>CRASH!!!<<

He finds real tears, now.  I need these.  

P.S.  I'll be home this evening, and my net access shouldn't
go away til sometime n January, I expect.  Will be back later.

Taldin

-- 
TTTTT AA    LL DDDD   II   II NN      "I don't believe in a religion
   TT  AA   LL DD  D  II   II NNNN      that doesn't believe in me."
  TT  AAAA  LL DD   D   II II NN NN        Taldin The Blue Unicorn
 TT  AA  AA LL DDDDDD IIIIII  NN  NN          youngj4@pawl.rpi.edu
From: bwinton@leibniz.uwaterloo.ca
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ...
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:48:42 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo

Blake lowers his head, while groaning at Splash's puns, and the water 
sails over his head, and into the shadowed corners.

Then he hears
>"Mike!  This guy's drink is on me!" Big Al states.

"Well, if you say so..." Blake says,

<splash>

BTW, where are the towels, and other drying paraphenalia (sp.)

						Blake.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Subject: Re: Pizza Party
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 06:57:27 GMT

 (Abner J. Mintz) writes:
>Yum!  Spinach, brocolli, asparagus (OK, I'll stop drooling), cauliflower,
>brussel sprouts, green beans.  Even peas arent bad if theyre hot or frozen
>or fresh (nothing is as slimy as cold cooked peas, except maybe okra - bleah!)
>
>Maybe you're not weird.  Either that, or you have company!
>

 Um. Only overcooked okra is slimy ! Myself, I rather like fried okra
thats crunchy { fried after rolling the okra in corn meal... }
    Jim.

-- 
         Jim Pierce Bach. of Sci. in Applied Computer Science USM 
             jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu  Disclaimer: Standard.
                   Video. Cher: Love and Understanding.
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From: gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon)
Subject: Re: It's a girl!
Organization: Open Age, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:51:42 GMT

pechever@phakt.usc.edu (The Heckler) writes:

>In article <1992Dec11.164234.14971@muddcs.claremont.edu] uribe@jarthur.claremont.edu (Lydia Uribe) writes:
>]In article <brumby.724083394@nella7.cc.monash.edu.au] brumby@nella7.cc.monash.edu.au (Stephen McNamara) writes:
>]]   At one minute to eight this evening, Friday the eleventh of December,
>]]Jennifer Rhiannon McNamara was born, after thirty two hours of fairly
>]]difficult labour by Robyn. At the moment she is in a humidicrib, because
>]]she found this breathing business a bit difficult for a two and a half week
>]]premature baby. However, she seemed to have gotten the hang of it when I
>]]left the hospital.
>]
>]Soprano jumps up and heads for the bar.  Placing a rather worn dollar bill
>]on it, she gets a hot buttered rum from Mike and approaches the chalk line.
>]
>]"To Jennifer Rhiannon McNamara and her parents:  may your lives be filled
>]with wonder!"
>]
>]>>>crash<<<
>]					Soprano
><Krash!>
>					Impu-Sebek
>-- 

<<<<CRASH>>>>  YEEEHAAAA!!!!!  It's a Girl!!!

-- 
The Golden Gryphon 				gryphon@openage.COM
"Mad Scientists seeks mindless brawny assistants, good pay, quiet location."
"They're not ghosts,  they're metaphysically challenged." - Me
Openage - The Premier SCO UNIX integrator in the Washington D.C. area
From: ekho@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (amanda rothman)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re-pairs
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:53:36 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida


  Amanda and Ekho reappear from where they had vanished, but no one 
(including themselves) saw them leave.  Amanda gasps, "Ack!  Cybernet's 
been down from Friday until this morning (Monday).  I just know I've 
missed something... If someone said something to us while we were gone, 
we weren't ignoring you.  Ekho's not saying anything right now, because 
she is concentrating on keeping our tenuous link up and running."  Both 
of the women look slightly bedraggled, and Ekho is holding some sort of 
tool that emitts a small laser beam up to a box of wires and flashing 
lights.  "That should do it."

  Fetching drinks for them both, Amanda shouts "To the affirmation of 
life in the form of a baby girl, and to the healing of life for the Didi 
Sprite.  They both have our well wishes and help through the spirit 
world!"  >>CRASH<<       >>CRASH<<

          Yours in Time and Space
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: uribe@jarthur.claremont.edu (Lydia Uribe)
Subject: Re: Arrival of a Stranger
Organization: Claremont Shelter for Maladjusted Singers
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:49:50 GMT

In article <Dec16.072445.69058@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> arsmith@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Alan Smith) writes:
>
>Big Al.  Am I the only *human* in here?

Soprano grins at Big Al as she returns from the chalk line (collecting
another hot buttered rum from Mike -- great cold medicine, y'know!).  "Nope,
I'm very much human, too.  My VR persona here is merely an amplification of
one aspect of my RL one...."

And she goes back to a table covered with vocal scores and starts rummaging,
muttering "now *where* did I put that 'Alleluia'?"

					Soprano

"You're more than beginning -- you're learning to fly;
 You feel like you're falling, but it passes in time...."
			"From Me to You", Janis Ian
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Soprano (Lydia M. Uribe)                      uribe@jarthur.claremont.edu |
| Claremont, CA                                  uribe@hmcvax.claremont.edu |
|           Cats, quilts and diving -- what more could anyone ask?          |
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From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Subject: Re: INTRODUCTION: Knight and day
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:05:33 GMT

henry@netcom.com (Henry Polard) writes:
>A Falstaffian knight clanks down from the Lurkers Gallery and
>squeaks stiffly to the bar. He puts a gleaming  silver silver
>dollar on the bar. RMike, a snifter of Baron Otard cognac from any
>pre-phylloxera year, please.S While waiting for the cognac, he
>leans his sword against the bar and takes off his irony. RIron
>Johns,S he says. RTheyUre COLD.S *thud* *scree* A circular file
>reduces the armor to dust.
[ snip ]
>He writes:
>Henry Polard, born May 11, 1947  henry @netcom.com.
>Suddenly overcome by shyness, he spots an unoccupied chair by an
>empty table, goes there and sits down.

   "Hmm. Someone older than me, but younger than Nick Chopper ! Welcome
to The Place ! I'm a June, 1947 person myself..." DJ.

-- 
 Jim Pierce Bach. of Sci. in Applied Computer Science USM - Gulf Park Campus 
             jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu  Disclaimer: Standard.
             Video. Cher: Love and Understanding.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Confusion reigns...?
From: mcspikgfm@dct.ac.uk
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:46:40 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology



	Melandra looks sadly at the back of her new friend leaving the Bar and
sips on her drink to regain some composure. Then just as suddenly he runs back
in yelling "I'm back...I'm Back!!!!!".....at the same time a shout of its a
girl goes off in the background and a general clamour cause her to shift
herself in the chair to look behind. BANG....as she slips of the chair and
lands with a thudding noise on the floor...."oh boy......what a confusion a
messed up connection can make.......excuse me...what is today......I think I
may need medical help.....oooowwwww what a headache!!!!!! Well done to both of
the parties in question.....Rhiannon.....great name......& alfvaen...nice to
see you again.....Mike!....another....but make it water this time...I dont
think I can trust myself with anything else!

							mel.
From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Subject: Re: INTRODUCTION: Knight and day
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 06:26:27 GMT

 (Henry Polard) writes:
>Thank you! 
>It looks like 1947 was a good year indeed! 
>And we've lived long and well enough to experience this place.
>Henry goes to the bar, puts a dollar on it and asks for a bowl of kumyss. 
>"ANY drink for a dollar - they weren't kidding. Thank you," he says. He drinks 
>the kumyss, wrinkling his nose, and muttering "Hmmm..." thoughtfully at 
>the intriguing new taste, and walks to the chalk line.
>
>A toast - the the wisdom and folly of age! *crash*
>
>DJ, may I buy you a drink? And is there a Keeper of the Ages here,
>so that we may know if there are other ancient ones here?

   "No idea if there is a Keeper of the Ages or not, most of us in RL are
  in our twenties or forties. Now for VR ages... I have no idea !" DJ.
 
>l'chayim

   "Certainamente ! <chuckle> Thats some garbled version of me saying
'certainly' and I have no idea when I started saying it... Mike, I'll
have my usual ice water, " DJ.

-- 
         Jim Pierce Bach. of Sci. in Applied Computer Science USM 
             jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu  Disclaimer: Standard.
                   Video. Cher: Love and Understanding.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: tjl9@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Thomas J Lee)
Subject: Re: Arrival of a Stranger
Reply-To: tjl9@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Thomas J Lee)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:33:52 GMT

Galan writes:

G>"Hello.  My name is Galan and this is my faithful pet Greywolf.  We have
G>heard many things about this place in our travels and decided to come see
G>it for ourselves."  He pats the wolf lovingly on the head.  "I do hope that
G>we're not intruding."

	People start to notice that the streetlamp outside Callahan's Place
is now emitting red and green light, and has a wreath made of holly and pine
cones hung upon it.  The Lamplighter comes back inside after decorating it
(and visiting Maxwell) and sees that the Place has a new patron!

	"Hello, Galan," says the Lamplighter, "and welcome!"

---==--===-+===++==+++=*+++**++***+****#****+***++**+++*=+++==++===+-===--==---
The Lamplighter             |"Se esmera, cora,c~ao ("Do your best, heart
(Tom Lee)                   | E confia               And have trust
                            | Na for,ca do amanh~a"  In the power of tomorrow")
tjl9@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu | - Milton Nascimento & Paul Simon, "Spirit Voices"

Current Listen:  _Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, Howe_
Current Read:  _Linguistics_, by Akmajian, Demers, and Harnish
From: keulen@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Splash!)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: "Humor" and real humor
Date: 18 Dec 1992 08:34:16 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au

maryb@cix.compulink.co.uk (Mary Branscombe) writes:

>Ditto on Some Mothers... but with Fawlty Towers you weren't *supposed 
>to sympathise with BasilFawlyt. Doesn't mean it's OK ot laugh at him, 
>but it was set up as a parody of a type, not of an individual and it 
>was *much funnier than Some Mothers... as well. IMHO. The disasters 
>befell other people usually and there wasn't too much long drawn out 
>stuff...  It was surreal, whereas Michael Crawford's Frank Spencer 
>was trying to real and being humiliated and humiliating.... You 
>always felt Basil was basically strong enough to cope but Frank might 
>give in pathetically any moment ( *I always felt...). I did enjoy 
>Fawlty Towers and I *didn't enjoy Some Mothers... Does that make 
>sense or am I inconsistent?

Not at all ... I see your point about Fawlty being stronger ...
unfortunately I wasn't  :-)

--
		Splash!		*To love is to LIVE!*
   (aka Mike van Keulen -- e-mail: keulen@csuvax1.murdoch.edu.au)