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From: eam3@po.CWRU.Edu (Eric A. Meyer)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Different Strings
Date: 18 Dec 1992 20:06:09 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: eam3@po.CWRU.Edu (Eric A. Meyer)
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>In article <1992Dec17.171159.12952@wam.umd.edu>
>moleface@next05cville.wam.umd.edu (Ashley Edward Collins) writes:
>
>Alex doesn't strike me as an idiot, either.  He does strike me as
>a really funny guy, in interviews and on stage.  But as to how
>intelligent he is, who knows? 

   I'd say Alex is quite intelligent.  I get this impression from his writings
in various tourbooks, which never fail to amuse.  The average-joe rocker
wouldn't write those things...

		-EMeyer

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From: wipperma9340@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Armagettel revisited
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:41:02 -0600
Summary: Spam
Reply-To: wipperma9340
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

The reason why I posted the "Aramagettel" thing orginially was the fact that
someone wrote in to say that the net was getting rather boring as of late.  Of
course, I agreed with him, so I decided to have some fun.  It is interesting
that a few people immediately jumped the gun and assumed that I was serious. 
Those people are just as scary as the fundamentalist, right-wing, extremist
whackos like that priest who erroneously assumed that Satan gets a cut from
each Rush album.

Yours etc.,

The Analog Kid

P.S.  ". . . Another one of their albums, Moving Pictures, has people moving 
pictures on the cover.  One pictures depicts a man burning at the stake looking
up at the cross . . ."
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From: utdp@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Thomas Prohigh)
Subject: Re: Enough (Re: ) Marillion?
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:38:18 GMT

I know there is some promo out there.  I remember hearing Prime Mover on WNEW in NYC before Hold Your Fire came out.  I remember them saying it was a promo disk
From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: New thread(s)
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:25:44 GMT
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Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <101914@netnews.upenn.edu> ott@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (THE JESTER) writes:

>	I've been flipping through the newsgroup and getting kind of bored.

>	So, I have some things I'd like to know, and see if anyone else is 
>interested.

>	Firstly, what is High Water about?  It seems to allude to evolution,
>going home, and a few other things that I can't remember right now.

I've always thought it is about feeling part of the phenomenon of life
on earth, in which water plays an essential role. 


>	Secondly, what about Prime Mover?  Maybe I'm sick, but I find all
>kinds of sexual connotations in it.

Maybe you _are_ sick :). I interpret it is a song largely about
self-realization, though it seems to touch on the idea of the 
realization of the "mission" of our democracy as well.



Gregg
From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Re:How do you describe Rush?
Date: 19 Dec 92 16:19:08 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <BzH1uH.30E@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast) writes:

>>In article <1992Dec17.182623.17810@wam.umd.edu> moleface@next05cville.wam.umd.edu (Ashley Edward Collins) writes:

>>>Rush are indeed a wonderful band, and Neil is a great lyricist, but it  
>>>pisses me off the way he neglects to site authors whose works he writes  
>           			       ^^^^
>>>songs about.  "Xanadu" was my favorite song until I found out that half of  
>>>it was written by Samuel Taylor Coleridge. 

>	I think the word is "cite."  

Maybe he wants their graves moved to a convenient spot :)

>	Anyway, Xanadu, as written by Coleridge doesn't involve anyone trying
>to actually find the caves of ice and all that.  The song could be thought of
>as an extension of the poem (since Coleridge was supposedly interrupted by a 
>stranger in his inspirational acid trip) where Peart attempts to finish up on
>Coleridge's dream.  Anyway, citation of authors of common books and works isn't
>necessary,

I thought I'd take this opportunity to let everyone interested know that
one can now easily obtain a CHEAP copy of Coleridge's ``Kubla Khan'', as
Dover has just come out with a great new line of classics-for-less which
sell for $3 or less. The book by Coleridge is, I think, $2, and also
includes ``Rime of the Ancient Mariner'' -- an interesting holiday gift
to give to fellow Rush fans (say a brother or sister) when you've blown
all your money on Rush Cds!


Gregg


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Gregg Jaeger (jaeger@buphy)  Dept. of Physics (and Philosophy), Boston Univ.
"You see, the quantum mechanical description is in terms of knowledge" -Peierls
"One can _not_ put the psi-function... in place of the... thing" -Schroedinger
                   _De gustibus non disputandum_, NOT!
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From: jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (John)
Subject: Test- don't read
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:32:47 GMT

 poo

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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Sinead stuff related to Rush
Date: 15 Dec 92 04:03:27 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison

I thought about this a while, and thought I'd attack it from a new angle:
what would you all think if Neil had decided that he did not want a
national anthem played before a Rush performance?  My guess is that somehow
there would be strong support for his actions, and we would not hear all
the complaints from some of you.  I also think Neil has alluded to in his
songwriting the fact that people's attitudes towards religion are the cause
of much pain and suffering in this world, which in a warped way is what
Sinead was doing when she ripped the picture of the Pope.

Of course, Neil would never stoop to such a cheap way of getting attention,
since he doesn't seem the type that likes to stand out.

Just my opinions - flame me if you want.
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
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From: rivit@shell.portal.com (Russell Michael VanTassell)
Subject: Re: Armagettel
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:17:18 GMT


In article <BzDw91.GMC@unix.portal.com> rivit@shell.portal.com (Russell Michael VanTassell) writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.173326.9388@iscsvax.uni.edu> wipperma9340 writes:
>>How about a discussion dealing with the Satanic aspects of Rush.  Come on now,
>>we all know that Rush is simply a cult dedicated to Lucifer.  Certainly, the
>>anti-God lyrics point us toward complete societal decay.  As a great pastor
>>from Michigan once said:

OK, OK... so maybe I missed something -- or ust jumped the gun a bit (yeah,
so maybe I should have finished reading new on the group before I posted).

Oh well... everyone wastes bandwidth once and a while... why can't I,
several times?   <grin>

RiViT
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From: moleface@next05cville.wam.umd.edu (Ashley Edward Collins)
Subject: Re: un: snl?
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:01:44 GMT

 CBS).  Or for that fact how about Arsenio?  I would love to see Geddy  
doing                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^
> some mean funk with the 'Posse' or what ever the heck you call his band.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I realize I'm going to get some lethal flames for this, but I suppose I'm  
prepared.  HUGE Rush fan that I am, I hate Roll the Bones (both the song  
and most of the album).  I admire them for trying to tread new ground, I  
just think that it worked out horribly.  If you want to hear some good  
funky bass playing, check out Flea of the Red Hot Chili Peppers; Geddy  
(and the rest of the band), IMveryHO, should stick to the style he's more  
than proved he's capable of playing, and stop trying to pander to the new  
wave of funk rock that's come up in the last few years.  By the way, Neil  
can't rap, either.
	
So go ahead, drop all the napalm on me that you wish, I've prepared  
myself.  Happy flaming.

Moleface
From: prater-ethan@yale.edu (Ethan Prater)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: RUSH?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 13:42:09 -0500
Organization: Yale University
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In article <BzDysy.KHC@unix.portal.com> rivit@shell.portal.com (Russell Michael VanTassell) writes:

>Does anyone know what happened to Rutsy?
>
>RiViT@shell.portal.com                                      russ@mce.com

This is in the FAQL. Check it out if you're a new subscriber.

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From: rivit@shell.portal.com (Russell Michael VanTassell)
Subject: Re: un: snl?
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Distribution: alt
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 05:48:39 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.180144.16146@wam.umd.edu> moleface@next05cville.wam.umd.edu (Ashley Edward Collins) writes:
>wave of funk rock that's come up in the last few years.  By the way, Neil  
>can't rap, either.

I'm sure someone else has/will post(ed) this but...

The rap you refer to, on Roll the Bones, is Geddy -- not Neil.
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From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Caress of Steel
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:34:29 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article <Bz9M1r.Mr7@udecc.engr.udayton.edu> mmaryo@udecc.engr.udayton.edu (Michael J Maryo (U)) writes:
>In article <104486@bu.edu> jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:
>>
>>Buy it, it's very unlikely that you'll be disappointed. If you like
>>"By-Tor and the Snow Dog" then you'll love "The Necromancer". And half
>>the album is one long song (technically and series of connected songs)
>>If you're into musical "atmosphere" this may end up being your favorite
>>Rush album. It was the last one I bought (in the process of buying them
>>all) and I could've kicked myself for buying it last!

>I must disagree.  CoS is a great album and all, but I can't say that it is 
>a "must have" for an occasional Rush listener.  It is a nice addition to an
>already large collection of Rush albums, but I would put most of the other
>albums ahead of it.  I like CoS, but I think I only really listen to the
>first thre songs when I do... (Bastille Day, I think I'm going Bald, and
>Lakeside Park)  Although I must say that Lakeside park is one of my favorite
>songs.  

Yes, Lakeside Park is truly excellent.

I, too, would choose a different one as a favorite from the older set.  In 
my case, A Farewell to Kings (esp. "Closer to the Heart").
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From: bd6520@u.cc.utah.edu (BALACHANDRA DESHPANDE/MECHANICAL ENGINEERING)
Subject: About Rush...
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Student Mail Machine
Distribution: alt.music.rush
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 03:16:45 GMT


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From: rivit@shell.portal.com (Russell Michael VanTassell)
Subject: Re: Armagettel
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 03:27:01 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.173326.9388@iscsvax.uni.edu> wipperma9340 writes:
>How about a discussion dealing with the Satanic aspects of Rush.  Come on now,
>we all know that Rush is simply a cult dedicated to Lucifer.  Certainly, the
>anti-God lyrics point us toward complete societal decay.  As a great pastor
>from Michigan once said:

Yeah, right.  I don't tend to think so (as I'm sure many posts along this
smae line follow).  Neil has this thing about organized religion -- he
doesn't like it.  Since he writes <all> of the lyrics, I tend to doubt the
other two have decidely voiced their opinion.

He (Peart) explains it in one of his concert notes... I think even as current
as 'Roll the Bones.'  If I can find the direct quotes, I will post them
(although I'm sure someone else here will be able to quote hinm off the top
of their head).

>"Rush is another group that uses the occultic symbol of the five-pointed star. 
>They use it on all of their albums.  One album features a nude man surrounded 
>by levitating brains.  Their songs include The Battle of the Heart and Mind, 
>Apollo Bringer of Wisdom, Armagettel . . . uh, Armageddon, and The Spirit of 
>the Radio.  I bet they know a lot about the spirits of the radio."

Yeah, I've heard the argument about the re-occuring star that they display.
But, is it me or does the man on All the World's a Stage look like he's backing
away from it?

The brain is actually being stood upon by a nude man and a suited man with
a cane.  Neil is also <really> into Astrology and Greek Mythology... just 
look up all the references off of Hemispheres and A Farewell to Kings -- they
should appear in your very own copy of Greek Mythos.

>Now, how can you escape the truth?

Just bring some less-than-informed person in to try to explain it (or hire
a tech writer - HEY!  That's not nice).

>DPW (formerly the Analog Kid, until I reformed myself to the holy life)

Sounds like you reformed into something other than "the holy life."
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From: khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson)
Subject: Re: Advertisements/Endorsements
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	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: Have you seen any with the band-members?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 10:32:04 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.170921.22204@eng.umd.edu> cmermag@eng.umd.edu (Chri
topher Mermagen) writes:
>Neil had endorsed Ludwig drums and Purecussion, inc. rims for his
>drums and ProMark drum sticks from what I have read in MDrummer.
>Alex has endorsed Markeley Strings and PRS guitars (ads in Guitar
>Mag) as well as GK amps/cabs. Geddy has endorsed ROTOSOUND strings
>and Wal basses (from what I just heard, someone said there is
>a ged lee signature wal)...
>
>any corrections anyone???
>
>Hope this helps-
>Chris


There is a Geddy Lee signature Wal?
 
I have two Wal basses myself (4 & 5-string), and I haven't even heard or
an endorsement, yet alone a signature model...
 
Mine are close to what he uses.. At least my 4-string is black, has 19
frets, so it's close to what he used to play (the red one is a little
different)...  I guess a signature would have the same woods and his name
on it...
 
Man, he's the reason I started playing bass..  BTW:  Wal basses average
around $2000.00 each...  Expensive stuff.
 

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From: rivit@shell.portal.com (Russell Michael VanTassell)
Subject: Re: Different Strings
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 05:45:43 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.171159.12952@wam.umd.edu> moleface@next05cville.wam.umd.edu (Ashley Edward Collins) writes:
>In article <1992Dec7.172121.20395@ee.rochester.edu>  
>rasche@ee.rochester.edu (Shorts/Rasche) writes:
>> tunes.  What I find interesting is that Geddy wrote the lyrics - which  
>is 
>> extremely rare.  Since I like this song so much - I wonder why he  
>doesn't
>> write more lyrics than he has...   What other songs did Geddy write the  
>lyrics
>> for?  I know he also wrote Cinderella Man - and possible a few from 
>
>He wrote everything on _Rush_, unless Alex wrote some, too, which I doubt.   
>He's a great guitarist, but I've read interviews, and he doesn't strike me  
>as being terribly bright (no flames, please, but tell me if you got a  
>different impression).  Geddy also wrote some lyrics on FBN, although I  
>can't think which ones offhand--the ones where Neil isn' t given  
>songwriting credit.

They are 'Best I Can' and 'In The End'...

Might also be interesting to note that By-Tor and Snow-Dog are listed
as Geddy and Alex, respectively... maybe Peart's tribute as he came
new to the group?  I forgot where I heard this - maybe on the ESL video
or something...
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From: jason@jarthur.claremont.edu (Jason Merrill)
Subject: Re: Caress of Steel
Organization: Minimal
Date: 19 Dec 92 09:11:58

>>>>> moleface@next05cville.wam.umd.edu (Ashley Edward Collins) writes:

> Just curious, why was only one of these censored?  RCS really offends me.

Well, then, how about SCCS?  CVS?  Sourcerer's Apprentice?
Sorry, sorry, sorry...

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From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Concert Notes...
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:50:50 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <BzDv98.F29@unix.portal.com> rivit@shell.portal.com (Russell Michael VanTassell) writes:

>OK, here's a question that maybe some of you "more hardcore" Rush fans
>can answer...

>I've started trying to collect all of the concert notes from all of
>Rush's past concerts...

>Anyone have any ideas where I might be able to "come across" some of
>the earlier ones?  I've only been collecting these since Power Windows
>or so...


Yes, contact the Rush Backstage Club -- their address is in the FAQ.
The sell old ones, though the supply of pre-PoW programs seems to be
dwindling...



Gregg





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"One can _not_ put the psi-function... in place of the... thing" -Schroedinger
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:16:44 EST
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Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: New thread(s)
Distribution: na

>>>>> jarthur.claremont.edu(Jason Merrill) writes:
>
>Part of Prime Mover is another expression of Neil's Existentialist
> values...

Just in case anyone was interested, I read a Rush fan club newsletter
(from I think around 1985) where he stated that he was NOT an
Existentialist, nor a logical positivist either. (He said something
funny, talking about an "Existerminator.")

Also, another thing that he said which I liked was in a later
newsletter.  When asked, "How do you feel about Ayn Rand and
Objectivism?",  he replied, "Pretty good. How do YOU feel
about them?"   Couldn't have answered that one much better!

    Later!
                             Christopher Downs
                                   Penn State University

"Why do their shadows bow in fear?"
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From: mhatz@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Hatz)
Subject: Re: **QUICK SINEAD SURVEY PLEASE ANSWER**
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	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 17:39:58 GMT


I think Sinead is a fucking asshole and needs to have her cue ball
head shot off by an IRA terrorist!  Take this non-rush SHIT somewhere
else!
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From: larsen@hellgate.utah.edu (Steve Larsen)
Subject: Re: Alex' guitar work on p/g
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 23:43:52 GMT

pga0625@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Paul Ackerman) writes:
: In article <1992Dec14.154822.15763@eng.umd.edu>, 
:     cmermag@eng.umd.edu (Christopher Mermagen) writes:
: >
: >Just wondering how people felt about the guitar work on this album..
: >I was just listening to it last night while studying for a final,
: >and I realized how I really enjoy some of his (I guess the word
: >is) arpeggiated work on the guitar - not the power chords, but 
: >the flowing notes, like on DEW, The Enemy Within (TEW).
: >Don't get me wrong, I love the power chords, I just wasn't
: >talking about them.
: >
: >Also, the solos of Between the Wheels, Kid Gloves, and my personal
: >favorite Afterimage to me are awesome...
: 
:          I agree.  I believe p/g is where Alex started using arpeggios and
:     suspended chords heavily.  His work on the album shows a lot of
:     passion and anger, just the right blend for that album.  His solo on
:     Kid Gloves is his best to date, IMHO.
: 

  Personally, I have always had a certain passion for the first solo in La Villa
Strangiatto, and the outro for Mission.  I think both of these works are just
incredible.  Almost brings tears to the eyes.  Hey, maybe we could start a thread
about everyones favorite guitar solos.

Steve