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From: flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal)
Subject: beware the hideous r*b*r b*r*n (more important than shunning the frumious bandersnatch)
Date: 7 Nov 92 04:01:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.195556.3977@cs.wisc.edu>, rbrbrn@picard.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>It's a f**king cartoon!   

This is not a very profound observation.  However, this, um, person has shown a
surprising talent at completely disrupting the Simpsons group on previous
occasions.  Please everybody, just ignore him.  His basic line seems to be that
we're all wasting our time watching The Simpsons, but somehow, he's not wasting
his time doing so nor is it a waste of time for him to read this group, but
it's a waste of time for us to read this group.
From: rickhaan@SKYBLU.CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: maggie driving the car
Date: 5 Nov 92 01:40:43 GMT
Reply-To: rickhaan@SKYBLU.CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona

Obviously a large overlap here between OFF & SNL fans, as lots of people
have been quick to identify the driving cat as Toonces.

But I have to agree that I don't think this was the intended reference.
I seem to recall a scene in the movie _Look Who's Talking_ (with Bruce Wilis
as the baby's voice) in which the baby drives a car around in a similar
fashion to that of Maggie.

One other DYN from I&S: TM

When Marge and Homer are driving to Parent/Teacher night, Marge can't hold
the line with Homer (he gets his own way and gets to see Lisa's teacher, as
he has every year)--maybe the discipline problems with Bart start at a
higher level in their own relationship. :)

[Yes, I am a psych grad student, but don't take that last statement at all
seriously]


"Mmmmm......Soylent Green"

Rick Haan
rickhaan@ccit.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Subject: Re: More I&S -- TM
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:23:33 GMT

nowikoam@ucbeh.san.uc.edu (Tony Nowikowski) writes:

>Another first-time poster here ...

>"Itchy & Scratchy: The Movie" was an excellent episode, but there were a couple
>of things that kinda bothered me ...
>Mrs. Krabapple pulling out these *nasty* weapons ... doesn't seem to be Bart's
>style.  Pranks like switching her birth control pills, or sending her love
>letters from "Woodrow" (a.k.a. Gordie Howe!) yeah, but weapons and violence? 
>Those looked to be more Nelson's speed.
>Likewise, some of the nasty stuff Bart was doing at home seemed out of
>character.  Like hammering packets of mustard while whistling a Christmas tune,
>or tearing up the carpeting for *no* good reason.  Bart's devious, sneaky,
>lazy and underhanded, but completely nihilistic?  Especially when the thing
>that cooks his goose is something as *in*-character as being inattentive to
>Maggie's whereabouts.

I too noticed an uncharacteristic mindlessness to Bart's pranks in this
episode, but I'm more than willing to accept it for the sake of a good
joke.                                      

>Question:  the WWII-era I&S ... did it seem more like Disney, Warners, or MGM
>style to everyone else? (I thought Warners .. but that's my built-in bias...8*)

Actually, the style seemed a lot slicker than any WWII-era cartoon I've
ever seen from any studio.  My guess is we were looking at a parody of
the Warner Bros. cartoons from that period, which did such a wonderful
job of combining mindless violence with socially responsible messages
such as "Buy War Bonds."


                     --Steve "The Frogurt is also cursed" Stelter
                       sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: George.Harris@launchpad.unc.edu (George Harris)
Subject: Re: Marge Gets a Job (11/5/992)
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:30:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov09.185046.28825@sco.com> jondr@sco.com writes:
>
>not at all!  remember "blood feud" (conveniently rerun just a few weeks
>ago)?  burns is going to destroy homer but smithers asks him to relent,
>which he does... and then buys the simpsons a $30K olmec warrior god
>sculpture!!

	No, Desi.  Not Olmec.  Aztec!

>Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ)                 uunet!sco!jondr   jondr@sco.com
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From: dunster@sdsu.edu (mark dunster)
Subject: Re: Halloween Episode - Refs and DYNs
Organization: sdsu
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:24:52 GMT

Nice to see that the Simpsons are politically correct :^)    ........

Lisa: "Bart!! Look!! Zombies!!"
Bart: "Lisa, please, they prefer to be called the living-impaired."

Did you also notice a gravestone at the pet cemetary. One was inscribed:
"Capitol Critters."   Ha! Ha!



Long live the Simpsons, the ultimate in TV enjoyment.
From: AH.PBL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: *MAGGIE SPEAKS-DEC.3 EPISODE*
Date: 12 Nov 1992 13:26:18 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
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In article <YN3SB04F@cc.swarthmore.edu>,
mrapp@cc.swarthmore.edu (Michael Rapp) writes:
>Reprinted (without permission) from an article in today's Philadelphia Inquirer
>by Gail Shister:
>
>SILENT SIMPSON SPEAKS
>
>Elizabeth Taylor (!) will supply the voice when baby Maggie speaks her first
>words on The Simpsons Dec.3.
>What will she say? Creator Matt Groening hasn't even told the folks at Fox what
>profound observation Maggie will offer. And mum's the word among the producers
>at SImpsons-ville. Fox plans to run a promotion about it, inviting viewers to
>guess her first words.

  How about "Kweejibo"? (A big, dumb, balding, North American ape.)

  I hope it's a "swear" word (in keeping with The Simpsons'
brand of "family values").
From: baldwin@csservera.scs.usna.navy.mil (J.D. Baldwin)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Flanders has a Beta, eh?
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:48:14 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dep't., U.S. Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD
In-reply-to: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu's message of 04 Nov 92 13:38:52 -0400

In article <1992Nov4.173852.11751@news.columbia.edu>
egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy) writes:
>Was the escaped criminal coming from that direction with his spoils?

No, I thought of this too, but I'm almost certain that Flanders' house
is to the *right* [from the point of view of someone exiting the front
door] of the Simpson's.  It's certainly that way in the opening
credits.
--
 From the catapult of:              |+| "If anyone disagrees with anything I
   _,_  J. D. Baldwin, Comp Sci Dept|+| say, I am quite prepared not only to
 _|70|___:::)=}-  U.S. Naval Academy|+| retract it, but also to deny under
 \      /   baldwin@usna.navy.mil   |+| oath that I ever said it." --T. Lehrer
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From: wendel@thelonius.tti.com (John Wendel)
Subject: Re: Maggie driving the car: Toonces NOT!
Organization: Transaction Technology Inc.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:55:15 GMT

In article <Bx9AGp.BxK@news.cso.uiuc.edu> g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin) writes:
>People,
>	Maggie driving the car was not a reference to Toonces on
>Saturday Night Live. ................................................

[munch]

>	Attempts to classify this sequence as a reference should focus
>on identifying the music (like "The Great Escape"). I couldn't identify
>it, but after hearing the music I thought, "This must be a reference to
>something." Any ideas?
>
>						Greg Martin
>						g-martin1@uiuc.edu

I thought this sequence was simply an allusion to the oft-scrutinized
opening, where Maggie appears to be driving, until we see that
(of course) it's actually Marge doing the driving.  Worked for me.


John Wendel   <wendel@thelonius.tti.com>
Citicorp / TTI     (310) 450-9111 x2964
From: giovin@medr3.ecs.umass.edu (Rocky J Giovinazzo)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Halloween Episode - Refs and DYNs
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:00:08 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

In article <1992Nov11.230610.20757@news.unomaha.edu> torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair) writes:
>jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu  writes:
>> tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll) writes:
>> 
>> >I'm surprised no one's mentioned the allusions to the old show "Love American 
>> >Style".  For those of you too young to remember, LAS closed each segment by 
>> >framing the final scene in a shrinking heart-shape, with cheesy music similar 
>> >to what they played when the heart enclosed the scene with the Krusty and 
>> >Barbie dolls.
>
>You mean the one that spun off "Happy Days"?  Yes I remember it.  The Comedy
>Channel used to show it.  And of course, who could forget the awful '80's 
>re-make?

Comedy Central (or Comedy Channel or C or Ha or...) did used to show it
but I thought it came out _before_ Happy Days... and what actors 
"spun off" of Happy Days anyway?

Rocky Giovinazzo  
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From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Subject: Re: flamers and two new discussions
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:14:36 GMT

tina@diamond.UUCP (Tina Cacolice) writes:




>2.  I think that we should all get together and agree on an "approved"
>spelling of Homer's favorite noise.  My offer is "Doh-p!"  but I'm sure
>many will disagree with me.

I believe the official spelling is "D'oh!" (although "D'ohh!" is an
acceptable regional variant).


                              --Steve Stelter
                                sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

Xref: sparky alt.tv.simpsons:6089 alt.tv.simpsons.itchy-scratchy:287
From: fjames@CS.Stanford.EDU (Frankie James)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons,alt.tv.simpsons.itchy-scratchy
Subject: Re: Itchy & Scratchy t-shirt
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:24:28 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.

(stuff deleted)
|> Itchy and Scratchy T-Shirt.  It shows the mouse pushing the cat through a 
|> meat grinder.  (Which is which?  The show isn't too clear.)
|> I don't know if they sell this through their catalog, or how much it cost.
|> 
|> Torsten at Omaha	(Anybody see the cartoon segment from Stay Tuned?)


It's easy...Scratchy is the cat because he has claws and, as any cat owner
will tell you, they use them to scratch EVERYTHING!!!  (BTW, I have a black
cat that I occasionally refer to as Scratchy for this reason, and because of
the reference!!!)

                                   ---Psycho
From: baldwin@csservera.scs.usna.navy.mil (J.D. Baldwin)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: I&S: The Movie
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:51:37 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dep't., U.S. Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD
In-reply-to: greg@hal.com's message of 04 Nov 92 16:49:33 -0400

In article <1992Nov4.204933.8498@hal.com> greg@hal.com (Greg Hilton)
writes:
>DYN: Flanders and one of his sons were third in line to see the movie?
>I'm a bit surprised that he doesn't think it's too violent.
>
>Others at the beginning of the queue were:
>   Milhouse
>   Martin
>   Otto with his sleeping bag, lounge chair and walkman.

Yes, Ned was reading to Rod.  Isn't Rod a little old to be read to?
Right after them was some old guy playing checkers with Jasper.  No
one after that was recognizable to me.

There's also a "Life in Hell" reference in this episode, but you'll all
have to wait for the new Itchy and Scratchy Episode Guide (coming Real
Soon Now[tm]) to find out what it is.
--
 From the catapult of:              |+| "If anyone disagrees with anything I
   _,_  J. D. Baldwin, Comp Sci Dept|+| say, I am quite prepared not only to
 _|70|___:::)=}-  U.S. Naval Academy|+| retract it, but also to deny under
 \      /   baldwin@usna.navy.mil   |+| oath that I ever said it." --T. Lehrer
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From: bw462@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bucky Whaley)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: [9F05] Marge Gets a Job - Faves and DYNs
Date: 9 Nov 1992 17:24:08 GMT
Organization: The Lutefisk Watch, Homersexual Research Team
            <1992Nov6.222900.9574@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> 
            <BxFJ6D.12L@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
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jacobw@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jacob Solomon Weinstein) says:

>Steve Stelter writes:
>>
>>A question: Can anybody schooled in such matters list the modern names
>>for all those diseases Grampa listed?  I believe "the grippe" is more
>>commonly known today as influenze, and "vapors" must be...well, I can
>>guess what that is.  :)
>
>You have a sick mind, my friend. The vapors, as far as I know, is an
>archaic term for fainting spells, generally in women, and generally as 
>the result of hysteria of some sort. But you're correct about "the
>grippe"; Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary defines it as "an acute
>febrile contagious virus desease identical with or resembling
>influenza."

My Webster's II New Riverside University Dictionary (what a mouthful)
sez a victim of the vapors may indeed suffer from "hysteria or emotional
depression," OR "exhalations within a bodily organ, esp. the stomach,
held to affect the mental or physical condition."  Eww.  Betcha this
latter meaning's closer to Steve's notion.  :D

>And they said majoring in English would never come in handy...


 -Bucky "You can always depend on the kindness of a stranger" Whaley

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     Mmm... lutefisk!              - Bart, "A Streetcar Named Marge"
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From: phillips@tegra.com (Steve Phillips)
Subject: Re: YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE! YOU CAN FIND A REFERENCE IN ANYTHING!
Organization: Tegra-Varityper, Inc. Billerica, MA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:47:52 GMT

Just an attempt to bring this discussion back to the facts...

As I understood it, the original point of this thread was the
question of whether the writers of the Simpsons really intended
to put in all of the movie takeoffs and other obscure references
we seem to see in it.

Personally, although I've seen some pretty far reaches in this news
group, I think that most of the references we see have been deliberately
placed there by the writers.  I believe that the writers recognize
that the Simpsons has a large cult following of adults, and reward
us for our interest by adding lots of in-jokes, movie references,
and freeze-frame humor.  There's no question that there are many
obvious movie references - i.e. things no one could miss - in
Simpsons episodes.  I'll mention two Hitchcock references that
come to mind just to prove my point:

1.  In last year's "Marge vs. Itchy and Scratchy" episode, the
    "Psycho" shower scene takeoff where Maggie hits Homer over
    the head in the basement, with the musical score and camera
    angles faithfully reproduced.

2.  The "Birds" parody in the Ayn Rand babysitting school, where
    the echoing of all the kids sucking on the pacifiers is just
    like the sound the birds make, and Alfred himself makes a cameo
    appearance walking his dog.

I chose the most obvious examples I could think of so that no one
will argue with me about whether they're really there.  What I
really like about both of these scenes, however, is the respect
that M.G. and company show for Hitchcock as a director.  I think
they're real movie buffs, and they're paying homage to their
favorite classics through these references, as well as sharing
a joke with their more discerning viewers :^)

One of the main reasons behind my own fascination with the
Simpsons is that the episodes hold up so well after repeated
viewing.  Even after watching an episode three or four times, I'm
still laughing at jokes I missed before.  I think that's the true
mark of a quality show.

Just my 2 cents worth...

- Steve
-- 
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tegra!phillips@uunet.com                         - Zippy the Pinhead
From: George.Harris@launchpad.unc.edu (George Harris)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Howard Hughes Ref, Animation Goof in MGA(PP)J
Date: 7 Nov 92 21:54:29 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <BxBz7s.EvF@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jpeg8496@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey P. Elbel) writes:
>George.Harris@launchpad.unc.edu (George Harris) writes:
>
>>	People will probably deride me for saying this, but I think the
>>Spruce Caboose was a ref/tribute to the Spruce Goose, a huge propellor-driven
>>plane built by Howard Hughes a long time ago.  It had something like 12
>>enginges, and only ever flew once, for a few hundred feet.  People said it
>>would never fly because it was too big.  This is v. similar to the Spruce 
>>Caboose, right down to the name.
>
>I'm not sure I understand.  Do you think that people will deride you
>for saying something that everyone already knows, or that people will
>swarm to correct your facts?

	If you've been reading this group for any length of time, you will have
noticed the emergence of two factions.  On the one hand, there is the faction 
which believes that everything unusual is a reference to something else.  We
can call this faction the Toonces faction.  Then there is the faction which 
believes that there are no references, and everything is just a coincidence,
and it's not worth thinking about because it's just a fucking cartoon.  We
can call this the lowbrow faction.

	Now, see if you can geuss which faction I was anticipating in my
previous post.

>Jeff
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From: wagenfuh@huey.udel.edu (Karl Wagenfuehr)
Subject: Re: Halloween Special III
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 20:09:46 GMT

In article <69014@cup.portal.com> DaPete@cup.portal.com (Pete o Wilkinson) writes:
>//What gives? Do I take it this has just been shown in the US?
>\\
>//But we saw it in the UK this Sunday, 1st November.
>\\And we haven't (to the best of my knowledge) had the SECOND Halloween
>//special yet.
>\\
>//This has confused the hell out of me. Anyone explain to me what's going on?
>\\
>Because you live in third world county with tv run by the government you get
>what ever they give you.   Now,  if you lived here in America, the greatest
>country man has ever known you'd get the Simpsons in a timely and 
>organized fashon. 

Right, where they pull out of showing a new episode last minute due to
some fear about ratings, and where they chop up the opening just so they
can get some more ad time in.  Trickle-down televion...  Truly superior.

-- 
                    ' ",      *
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From: eam@mintaka.mlb.semi.harris.com (Ed A. Mills)
Subject: Oprah interview
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:56:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Melbourne FL

Oprah's interview with the Simpson's was smashing! Also, the interviews with
Matt & the players were great.  I learned more about the making of The 
Simpsons in that 15 minutes than in years of reading this group & watching
the show itself..  Must see. 2 thumbs up!!

Is the lady that does Marge the old Brenda Morgenstern from the Rhoda show?
Sure looked like her.

Homer: See 'ya Opee.
Opra : That's Oprah Homer, oooohh  - ppprraaaaa
Homer: OOOOOHHHH-PPPPAAAAAAA?
Opra : No!  OOOOOHHH - PPPRRRRRRRRAAAA
           .
           .
           .
Ed
From: parilis@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Gary Parilis)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: maggie driving the car
Date: 8 Nov 92 19:15:50 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Nov4.234059.22584@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> canderso@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chuck Anderson) writes:

> > sborders@nyx.cs.du.edu (Scott Borders) writes:

> >>teek@flight.uwaterloo.ca (Prateek Dwivedi) writes:

> >>Maggie driving the car is from Saturday Night Live... late seventies

> >Well, you're sort of correct.  It is a takeoff from SNL, but recent SNL,
> >not late 70's/early 80's, as you suggest.  The cat's name is "Toonces,"

> I don't think they were referencing anything.  Toonces always has other
> people in the car with him.  And doesn't he always crash and burn off the

I agree... If they were really referencing "Toonces...", don't you
think Chief Wiggams would have said "...and look!  There's a *cat*
driving a bus..." rather than a dog?

- Gary
From: George.Harris@launchpad.unc.edu (George Harris)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Bart Meets a Babe
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:20:17 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service


	Well, the first thing I thought of when I saw the blackboard was 
"Mary Has a Little Lamb" (It followed her to school one day, ...).

	And don't even bother posting: it *wasn't* a reference to Temple of
Doom!

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From: jrs2@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Jim Smith)
Subject: Re: SIMPSON'S ON CAMPUS
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Distribution: usa
Date:  6 Nov 92 16:34:28 GMT

hickman3278@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>    Does your college campus do something unique when it comes to the
...
>place is packed depending on the show and test schedule's.

Here at Cornell, we started inviting people over to work together on
a big assignment that we have due every Friday morning; now, we have
about 15 people in our living room for the 8PM show, and 25 or so,
(which includes about 10 of the 15) for the 9:30 'rebroadcast' (after 
Cheers, and any exams that might have been scheduled)
The evening has expanded to include dinner (usually tacos or pizza)
between 8:30 and 9 (called Martinizing, even though the TV is 
off) and a drink of the evening (often electric jello shots or 
Whiskey Sours (!) every time Homer goes Do.  We take turns cooking and
making drinks each week, with the sole condition that whatever is cooked
require attention only at 10 minute intervals between 8 and 8:30.  

Everyone from the original study group still appears, but they are
outnumbered 5:1 by newcomers.  The place is packed even when there
are tests the next day... it's considered a most important diversion.

///// jim smith ///// jrs2@cornell.edu ///// masters or ///// or what? /////