HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cromwell@spot.Colorado.EDU (CROMWELL JON DAVID)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: How does one use the communication tools from Apple?
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:08:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucsu.1992Apr13.220834.16122
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

I downloaded some of Apple's communication tool extensions from their 
archive (ftp.apple.com) and put them in the system folder where they 
belong, but they don't seem to be doing anything for me. 

They include the Apple Modem Tool, Serial Tool, XMODEM Tool, VT102 Tool, and theTTY Tool.

Any relevant information regarding their use would be appreciated.
(Don't you hate it when you have something neat and can't use it!)

Thanx, mark.
From: time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: tickle, where is it?
Date: 7 Apr 92 06:10:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: tbomb.1CE00001.0d9no6
Reply-To: time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
Organization: ICE Engineering, Inc.
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v5


In article <bob.702512708@vincent1.iastate.edu> (comp.sys.mac.comm), bob@iastate.edu (Robert P Kuehne) writes:
> 	I read a post a while ago about Tickle, a program for
> uncompressing .Z and a few other format files.  Where is it?  I lost the
> address of the FTP site.  Thanks!
> Bob

ftp.msen.com
pub/vendor/ice/


tim endres - time@ice.com  -or-  uupsi!tbomb!time
ICE Engineering, Inc. - Phone (313) 449 8288 - FAX (313) 449-9208
8840 Main Street, Whitmore Lake, MI  48189
USENET - a slow moving self parody... ph
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Mac Classic to Ethernet Network
From: walid@dhvx20.csudh.edu
Date: 15 Apr 92 08:44:34 PST
Organization: CSU, DOMINGUEZ HILLS

Any information regarding hooking up a Mac Classic to a Ethernet Network
without using AppleTalk would be appreciated. Thanks!
Walid
Cal. State Univ. Dominguez Hills
From: Charlie.Mingo@p4218.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Charlie Mingo)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Supra V.32bis (Disappointment)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 19:41:42 -0500

wc7044@writer.yorku.ca (Joel Atkin) writes

  > Wait a minute.  I thought that v.32bis gives 38400, and plain v.42
  > gives 14400 bps. (even modem ads seem to differ on facts, leaving me
  > even more confused) Question:  Is HST (which yeilds 14400 bps...I
  > think), the same or at least compatable with v.42 (or v.32bis which
  > Ray says....or what ever the hell gives you 14400 bps) 

   Nope.  v.32bis has a basic transmission speed of 14400 (however 
data compression may allow a higher effective throughout).

   v.42 is an error correction protocol.  HST is a transmission protocol
which runs at 14400 in one direction and 450 in the other.  HST modems
made after July 1990 have v.42 installed, but those made before do not.
Organization: Johannes Kepler University Linz - Computing Center
Date: Monday, 6 Apr 1992 09:37:01 CDT
From: Norbert Mueller <K360171@ALIJKU11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: EtherWorks SCSI

I am currently facing problems installing a Technology Works EtherWorks SCSI
adapter under System 7 on a MacPlus. It used to work under System 6 but
refuses under System 7. The version of the EtherWorksSCSI Driver is 1.2.
Is there a newer version or does anybody have experience on how to get
that thing to work under System 7 ? Getting a Software Upgrade via our
dealer takes several weeks, but so far he does not even know if an upgrade
exists.

Thanks for any help

N. Mueller, Inst. of Chemistry, Johannes Kepler University, Linz, Austria
From: Charlie.Mingo@p4218.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Charlie Mingo)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Supra V.32bis (Disappointment)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1992 00:40:41 -0500

jsm2r@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (John S. Mitchell) writes:

  > Supra Tech solved my problem but only by dashing my hopes and dreams.
  > Their story was that the Mac serial port can connect to modems at no better

  > than 19200 baud. Turning down the speed indeed solved the dropout problem,
  > but as the Supra guy told me, it effectively eliminated making use of the
  > speed advantage of v.32bis or data compression at high connect speeds.
  > Supra told me that the only way to use that extra speed capability was to
  > buy an add-in card with high speed serial ports. (Said something about
  > needing ports that can do UART [?])
  > 
  > My question to the net is, doesn't this seem a little fishy? I've known
  > people who use Macs with USR HSTs with what seemed like full speed
  > capability.
  
  UART's?  That's a real givaway.  They are chips used to handle serial 
ports on IBM-PC's.  Mac's don't have 'em, and have no trouble driving 
serial ports at 57600 (which is the speed the ImageWriter is driven at).  
I for one have been using my HST at 38400 for years, with nary a dropout.

  The tech doesn't realize that there are computers out there other than
IBM-PC's.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: zkessin@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Zachary 'Lego' Kessin)
Subject: using a 386 as a server
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 00:11:27 GMT

We are trying to get a 386 to act as a file/print server over appletalk
(phone-net). We have the phonenet PC card and the workstation
software, so we can use the 386 to get files from a mac under system
7. But we want to be able to use the 386 as the file server and the
mac as the client. 

thanks in advance!

--Zach
   Zachary Kessin               
 ZKessin@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu  / real.world: I don't think the    |
 (617)736-5878                 /   news server gets that group!    |


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: jstrobel@world.std.com (Jeff Strobel)
Subject: Re: Un-uuencoding files on a Macintosh
Keywords: Macintosh decode decompress uuencode uudecode
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 13:36:18 GMT
Expires: Mon, 8 Jun 1992 04:00:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.021418.1291@gagme.chi.il.us> jasonl@gagme.chi.il.us (Jason Lindquist) writes:
>I've gotten a hold of some files off the net in the uuencode
>format.  Problem is, I'm not running on a direct internet
>connection- this is a remote modem connect from a Mac.  I
>would really rather not waste my site's processor time to
>unencode this stuff (It's rather large).  I'd like to do it
>from home on the ol' IIsi.  Is there a Mac application which
>will handle uuencoded files?  If so, where can I get it?
>
>Thanks!
>
>-- 
>Jason  A. Lindquist           |  "Knight jumps Queen!  Bishop jumps Queen!  Rook
>                              |   jumps Queen!  Everybody jumps Queen!"
>jasonl@gagme.chi.il.us        |              



There are several uudecoders available for the Mac, but the only
"smart decoder" that edits out headers and footers is UULite1.2.  It's
available by anonymous ftp at:

	mac.archive.umich.edu   (in the compressionapps directory)

This is a full featured decoder which concatenates article parts,
does creator/type stamping and handles multiple binaries in a single
file.  It also has help and a Read News download tutorial.

If you have any questions you can mail me at the address below.  I am
the author of UULite.


...Jeff Strobel                                   jstrobel@world.std.com

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: walkerj@math.scarolina.edu (Jim Walker)
Subject: Re: White Knight Updates
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:35:16 GMT

I didn't have any trouble decoding the 11.12->11.13 updater with mcvert.
For your benefit, I posted the binary form for ftp from
bigbird.csd.scarolina.edu in pub/mac.  Remember to use binary-mode ftp.

HOWEVER, think twice before using this update.  Version 11.13 seems to be
broken... it will not switch to the background during a download.  I went
back to 11.12.

Does anyone out there have a GEnie account, so as to get the straight scoop
from Freesoft?
From: rhessjr@darkside.com (Robert Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Request for Information
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:13:39 GMT
Organization: Independent Consultant

In preparation for an article, I'd like to poll those of you using
AFP-compliant file servers on UNIX-based machines for your feedback.

What hardward/software are you running? Why did you choose the system you're
using rather than a Mac-based file server? How many people are you serving?
How hard has maintenance been (have you hired an individual to maintain your
Macs and your UNIX box)? What has response been like (both on the network and
from your users)? What issues have you not seen handled by the Mac media which
would interest you?

Please respond via email!

Robert Hess
Internet: rhessjr@darkside.com -or- 74660.612@compuserve.com
CompuServe: 74660, 612
America Online: RHessJr
AppleLink: ENDPOINT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Stu West <stu@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu>
Subject: More PB 170 Modem probs
Organization: Yale University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 06:27:21 GMT

My PB 170 modem is acting up. Whenever I am downloading a file, it will
on occasion disconnect me from CompuServe. I understand there are some
tweaky differences with the command set Apple uses, but has anyone
figured out what to do to make file transfers work? For the third time it
disconnected me in minuted 27 of a 30 minute download, and I am getting
frustrated. (BTW, CompuServe Customer Support is useless).

Thanks. Reply direct, if possible.

-- Stu West
Stu@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: weiss@ee.su.oz.au (Tony Weiss)
Subject: Hardware handshake cable for Mac
Reply-To: weiss@ee.su.oz.au (Tony Weiss)
Organization: Electrical Engineering, The University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 03:13:36 GMT

I really need to have a hardware handshake cable for my Mac, because the
modem I bought can't quite handle the standard Mac cable.

Can anyone advise me :

1) Of an appropriate international supplier, and/or
2) What pin connections I need.

Thanks :)

Tony Weiss
weiss@ee.su.oz.au
Dept Biochemistry  G08
University of Sydney
NSW  2006
Australia

"usual disclaimers apply" 


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: edcrwfrd@unlv.edu (Edward Crawford)
Subject: Re: Hermes?!  Yech.  WWIV me baby.
Organization: UNLV
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 19:49:46 GMT


Why WWIV? IT was my impression that the mac version of WWIV is not 
even supported anymore, where as nearly ever 3-4 months there is a new
and improved version of hermes, free to registered owners (up to a
point)

Eddie
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: mxb11@po.CWRU.Edu (Marc Buchner)
Subject: New Modems and ARA??? 
Reply-To: mxb11@po.CWRU.Edu (Marc Buchner)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 11:32:56 GMT


I received two Xeba - Quicktel 14.4 V.32 bis modems last week and they
performed reasonably well with straight data communciation and fax (although
the fax features are incompatible with a Quadra), however the modems failed
miserably with ARA - technical support from Logicode was no help,
eg try a new cable, call Apple, wait a month for a script from us, etc.

My question is with all the discussion about the Supra 14.4 modems and the
Prometheus Ultima home office 14.4 does anyone know if these can be used with
ARA.  I have returned the two Quicktel modems (main reason for getting them
was to use ARA), and would like to make another purchase but not get caught
in the same bind.  Any help would be appreciated.

Marc Buchner  
-- 
Marc Buchner
	617 Crawford Hall                    Systems Engineering Department
        Case Western Reserve University      Cleveland, OH  44122
        phone: (216) 368-4096
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From: jade@triton.unm.edu (Eric Jaderlund)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: How do I get a .gif from UNIX to Mac?
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:06:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.c#sj10g
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

Ok, I give up.  I have a .gif image on a UNIX machine that has been uuendoded.
Fine.  I uudecode it and get the .gif file.  Now how to I get it to my Mac?
If I kermit it ( either in text or binary mode ) I get garbage when I view it.

What am I doing wrong?

-Eric Jaderlund
jade@triton.unm.edu
From: 2frgimbibe@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Chris!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Modem Dialing Speed (Q)
Date: 8 Apr 92 10:11:27 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas
Summary: dialing speed
Reply-To: chorcel@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Followup-To: Modem Dialing Speed (Q)
Keywords: Dialing Speed

	Hello, netters.  Is there a way to program into the modem the line
AT S11=50 ? I use Zterm .9 which lets me put that line when the program starts
up but I want to be able to use it with PhoneBook 2.62, a DA that dials the
phone for you.  This program does not allow me to set the speed of the dialing
( S11= ) and it dials very very slowly.  If I can't do anything with the modem
itself, could someone instruct me on how to change the default speed on the
Phonebook program with ResEdit?  Thanks a million.
-- 
 \_\_\_  \_  \_  \_\_\_  \_  \_\_\_  2frgimbibe@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
  \_      \_  \_  \_  \_  \_  \_      chorcel@oread.cc.ukans.edu
   \_      \_\_\_  \_\_\_  \_  \_\_\_  bf546@cleveland.freenet.edu 
    \_      \_  \_  \_\_    \_      \_  "Eu na~o sou cachorro na~o..."
     \_\_\_  \_  \_  \_  \_  \_  \_\_\_
From: Espen.H.Koht@dartmouth.edu (Espen H. Koht)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Handshaking serial cable
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:08:07 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Here is how you would wire a modem cable that will support hardware
handshaking.  For best results you would probably want to make sure the
cable is shielded too:


       Macintosh (DTE)                       Modem (DCE)
         DIN-8 Male                          DB-25 Male
Signal    Pin Nbr.                  Signal    Pin Nbr.
HSKo         1        -------->      RTS          4
HSKi         2        <--------      CTS          5
TXD-         3        -------->      TX           2
GND          4        ---------      signal GND   7
RXD-         5        <--------      RXD          3
TXD+         6  nc               |-- DSR          6
GPi          7  nc               |-- DTR         20
RXD+         8        ---------      signal GND   7
Cable Shield                         Frame Ground 1

  Note: The mac does not provided DTR, but by 'shorting' pin 20 with
pin 6 (see diagram) you can provide the necessary signal on this wire
for the modem if it really insists (basically the modem acknowledges
its own request for a DTR). 
 I guess you could also connect 'Frame Ground' to the 'signal ground'
(ie pin 1 to pin 7 of DB-25).

Espen
From: dplatt@ntg.com (Dave Platt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Zmodem 3.14 stopped working ?
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:46:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: ntg.1992Apr7.174657.3145
Organization: New Technologies Group, Inc.  Palo Alto CA

In article <1992Apr6.204632.17455@ousrvr.oulu.fi> pkor@phoenix.oulu.fi (Pasi Korhonen) writes:

>Zmodem downloads stopped working mysteriously. When I try to start, it takes
>couple of seconds and my term prog says : sending cancel, and aborts.
>I'm not completely sure if this is from the change of sz version round here.
>After troubles I checked and it was 3.14. Now it's 3.17 and it does not work
>either. I heard something about changes in sz.

What I've heard is this: the most recent versions of the "rzsz" program
suite (for Unix) implement the ZMODEM-90 protocol.  This is Chuck
Forsberg's enhanced version of ZMODEM.  Unlike the original ZMODEM
protocol (which was in the public domain), ZMODEM-90 is proprietary, and
its use requires a license from Chuck Forsberg.  

If you take a look at the release notes or source code for the recent
version of rzsz, you'll find that it's free for use with Omen Technology
products (that's Chuck Forsberg's company) but requires a per-port fee
of $20 if you intend to use it with products other than Omen
Technology's.  Your system administrator may not be aware of this.

I suspect that the new version of rzsz your site has installed is trying
to negotiate a ZMODEM-90 session, and that ZTerm is refusing the
negotiation because it doesn't understand ZMODEM-90.

>                                                Anybody got any info.
>I use an SE 4/40, sys 6.0.7., MicroPhone II 3.0. Tried with Zterm .85, no
>success. Tried to ask local administrator, he said that it works with his
>PC and the latest zmodem for PC. Argghh. Any suggestions ?

I'd guess that your administrator's ZMODEM program is one of Chuck
Forsberg's products, or uses a licensed version of his ZMODEM-90
drivers.

To date, I have not heard of any Macintosh telecom programs which have
licensed ZMODEM-90... apparently, the programs' authors haven't felt
that the enhancements in ZMODEM-90 are sufficiently worthwhile to
justify switching from a PD protocol to a proprietary one, and having to
pay a substantial license fee.

I would suggest that you get ahold of the source code for an old version
of rzsz.  I use version 1.36, which dates back to 1987... it works fine
with ZTerm 0.85 and ZTerm 0.9.


-- 
Dave Platt                                                VOICE: (415) 813-8917
              Domain: dplatt@ntg.com      UUCP: ...netcomsv!ntg!dplatt
 USNAIL: New Technologies Group Inc. 2468 Embarcardero Way, Palo Alto CA 94303
From: gaylord@UX1.CSO.UIUC.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: opening tar.Z files
Date: 8 Apr 92 09:00:54 GMT

i have tried opening tar.Z. files that i have ftp'ed to my Mac but nothing
will open them (CompactPro, UnStuffIt, DiskDoubler don't work).

what commercial or shareware or freeware do i need to be able to uncompress
and open these types of files? 

and finally, when i do open them, will they be readable?

thanks for whatever info i receive.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: hshubs@eff.org (Howard Shubs)
Subject: Re: Unpacking ,hqx.Z files
Originator: hshubs@eff.org
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1992 18:02:24 GMT

In article <1992Mar18.050302.11406@leland.Stanford.EDU> austinov@leland.stanford.edu (Andrey Ustinov) writes:
>Hello,
>I downloaded some nice old files from Australian mirror of sumex (shark.mel...) - a very
>useful place. All these files are kept there in .hqx.Z format.
>FETCH gives type ZIVM, and creator LZIV. Can anyone help me with the problem, how
>to decode and unpack those files. Do I need a special application, or I can somehow use
>Stuffit, DeHQX, or the available decompressing programs.
>Please, help me.


First, you need to uncompress the files.  Once you've done that, you
need to unBinHex them.  Stuffit, Compact Pro, and something called
BinHex 4.0 can do the unBinHexing.  Once you've managed those two
things, you'll probably find them more useful.
-- 
Howard S Shubs      hshubs@eff.org      I don't represent the EFF,
The Denim Adept     hshubs@BIX.com      but I do agree with them.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: TheNews news reader
From: jenner@post.ntu.edu.au(Bob Jenner)
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:18:41 +0900
Distribution: world
Organization: NTU

In article <1992Apr7.050729.819@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
jgraham@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (the End) writes:
>In <kga.92@lmsc.lockheed.com> kga@lmsc.lockheed.com (Ken G. Andrews) writes:
>
>>Hello,
>
>>I have heard of newsreaders NewsWatcher and TheNews for Macs. I tried
>>NewsWatcher, and want to try TheNews. Can anyone tell me if it's available
>>via anonymous ftp, and where to get it from?
>
>>Thanks for any help you can provide.
>>Ken G. Andrews  (Ken)
>>LMSC Sunnyvale, CA
>>408-756-9752
>>kga@lmsc.lockheed.com
>
>
>
>Ken,
>
>Watch out for that program "The News". It has so many bugs that things
>like changing active windows will cause it to crash. In my opinion it
>is the most incompatible piece of software I have ever seen on the
>Mac. Even on the most stripped down system, no go. I have tried
>several versions as they have been released over the last year or two.
>
>Flames and minor disagreements welcomed.
>
>Jim
Wow, you must have a different machine to mine! I use "TheNews" every day and
it *never* crashes on me. That is under system 6.x and more recently system 7.
There are some problems with both NewsWatcher and TheNews when the NNTP server
is on a VMS host. Bill Cramer (creator of TheNews) is bringing out a release
soon which will compensate for the brain definciencies of VMS (is that true
Bill?).
To answer the original question, I believe TheNews is available in the info-mac
archives at sumex..otherwise give archie a try.
Cheers...Bob Jenner
From: daf@pacersoft.com (David A. Fagan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: CTB screws up keyboard remapping and pasting?
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:15:42 GMT
Organization: Pacer Software, Inc.

In article <1992Apr3.175637.6321@kth.se>, simon@nada.kth.se (Simon Tardell) writes:
> 
> I have two primary problems with the CTB vt102 tool (and the TTY-tool,
> where applicable).
> 
> 1) The keyboard remapping doesn't seem to anticipate the PB170
> keyboard. For example, the arrow keys doesn't come out correctly and
> the "<" key maps to escape (!). The former is solvable (although
> rather clumsily) by changing the KCHR. The latter is not.
>

It's a bug in the tool, and will be fixed in the upcoming Pacer320. See below.
 
> 2) (worse) The vt102 tool (when set to Swedish national 7-bit
> conversion) correctly remaps incoming braces, brackets etc to the
> appropriate characters as well as it remaps outgoing Swedish
> characters to braces, brackets etc. BUT, it does no remapping of
> pasted text. If I cut/copy some text containg Swedish characters and
> then paste them into my terminal window, they come out as their 8-bit
> Macintosh representations. Which of course screws up my unix box.

If you are using PacerTerm, you can set a preference for whether
pasted text and keymappings are sent as keystrokes through the emulation tool, 
or  directly through the connection tool. Why, you may ask,
wouldn't you want the keystrokes to go through the emulator? For one, as a 
workaround to a problem where the tool interprets ^S and ^Q as 
Xon/Xoff signals. You can map ^S to ^S and the application will send it 
"straight out the wire".

Pacer has licensed the source to Apple's VT320 tool & will be including our
own version, the Pacer320, in a future PacerTerm release. The new tool will
fix the above bug (and others), as well as supporting pass-thru printing and
terminal functions. It will also make ^S, ^Q interpreting switchable.
(Personally, I don't see why flow control is any of the emulator's business, 
that should be left up to the connection tool).

As has been mentioned before, we're looking into the tall screen feature.

Modification will be in the VT320 tool only, NOT 102. As with our other 
tools, there are no current plans to market it seperately.

> Simon Tardell.

Thanks for your interest and support of the CommToolBox.

Dave Fagan.

David A Fagan
Pacer Software, Inc.
daf@pacersoft.com
From: elmar@knipp.en.open.de (Elmar Knipp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Printing to HP 3 Si with ethernet
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:09:28 GMT
Organization: Private/FRG

Hello Netlander,

I have a MAC Quadra 700 and a LaserJet III Si with the new
TCP/IP Ethernet-Card. Is it possible, to configure
the MAC so that the Mac prints direct to the HP? I use
OS 7.0, no tune-up, MAC-TCP 1.0.1.

Elmar
From: Charlie.Mingo@p4218.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Charlie Mingo)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Supra V.32bis (Disappointment)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 19:35:47 -0500

bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser) writes:

  > Isn't a so-called "handshaking cable" just a cable with all (25) lines
  > attached?  Or am I missing something here. --

All twenty-five pins attached to what?  The Mac serial ports have eight
pins, so a little mapping from 25 to 9 is in order.

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