HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: md@theory.esm.rochester.edu (Mike DeMurga)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Top Ten
Date: 20 Dec 92 03:12:54 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester Computing Center

Mike's top ten for 1992 in alphabetical order:

Arrested Development-3 years, 5 months & 2 days in the life of
Harrison Birtwistle-Earth Dances
Don Byron-Tuskegee Experiments
Brian Eno-Nerve Net
Laibach-Kapital
The Orb-U.F.Orb
Kaija Saariaho-Verblendugen, Lichtbogen, Io, Stilleben
John Scofield-Grace Under Pressure
Strafe FR-Lufthunger (may be 1991, but I couldn't find it here until '92)
Iannis Xenakis-Phlegra, Jalons, Keren, Nomos Alpha, Thallein

Stuff that would probably have made it had I bought it already:
Betty Carter-It's Not About the Melody
Elliott Carter-Violin Concerto, etc.

My two-cents worth,

Michael DeMurga

p.s.  I would love seeing others.
Xref: sparky rec.music.misc:29339 rec.music.folk:8529
From: spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Anyone heard of the group "Black 47"?
Date: 15 Dec 1992 03:21:32 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
NNTP-Posting-Host: zion.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Dec14.202038.1@gallua> CADS_COLE@GALLUA.BITNET (Kevin Cole; Washington DC) writes:
>Can anyone tell me more about a group called "Black 47"

Yeah, I heard these guys at the San Francisco Celtic Festival 
earlier this year.

They are a concept band from New York; their leader has a
very intense performance/vocal style; they are one of
the few band I've seen that have both two drummers AND
have a drum machine going during their performance.

"Black 47" refers to 1847, the year so many Irish people 
starved under the weight of English opression.  (no flames
on this one please.)

I understand they have a cult following in NYC.

Steve
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: boarjas@elof.iit.edu (Jason Boardman)
Subject: *** UPDATE ON SINEAD SURVEY ***
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 21:44:43 GMT

For those of you who have replied so far, thank you.
I have received over 600 replies but the race is still
very close.  If you have not replied, please do so.

Also, for those of you who saw this post in many other
groups as well, please understand I was trying to get
every person's opinion, whether they listened to Sinead
or not.

To those people who thought you could not answer with just
a yes or no: I agree it is tough..but what I wanted was for
you to weigh out everything, politics, music, and all and try
and make a yes or no desicion overall..if you can't just tell
me what you do or don't like.

I apologize for using the word "still" for still supporting Sinead.
This wasn't my intention- it must have missed me.  Anyway, here's the
question again:


*****  SIMPLE SURVEY -- PLEASE READ *****

I have seen much talk about Sinead on the net lately, 
and was wondering what the general opinion of Sinead
was.  Please take the 20 seconds it takes to reply to
this question and answer it.  (A simple Y or N will do).
Please use your newsreader's reply option or regular
email to submit votes -- do not post your answer.

Question:
Do you support (or have a general good opinon of)
Sinead O'Connor?

If you wish to send detailed replies as to why or why not,
please do, but they are not required.  Thanks in advance!

Jason Boardman
boarjas@elof.iit.edu
From: dmb@case.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Johnny-boy wants to play too! (was Re: Baggett goes Ballistic)
Date: 17 Dec 1992 01:20:19 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: case.ai.mit.edu

In article <malcolm.724548071@wrs.com> malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:
>>Read my post and learn that I was simply answering a
>>question:  who plays bass for Animal Logic.
>
>Actually, I don't think you read the original post you followed up to, 
>which I had posted - my question was something like: "Doesn't some famous
>jazz bassist play in Animal Logic?"
>
>The answer is, of course, simply: YES. 

Ha!  Man, you're TOO funny, Malcster!  (Can I call you Malcster?)
YES!  I love it!  Ha ha ha!

Dave Baggett
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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Best record of all time(repost)
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:30:56 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

You know it's really sad when in a best record of all time poll when something
like:

|(109) Electric Ladyland - Jimi Hendrix		

comes in 109th and is beat out by 49 places by something like:
 
|(60)  Groovy Hate Fuck - Pussy Galore				

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From: jdliss@unix.amherst.edu (Jeff Liss)
Subject: Re: Richard Thompson on Tour
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:06:22 GMT


C Revie (cir@festival.ed.ac.uk) wrote:
> jdliss@unix.amherst.edu (Jeff Liss) writes:
> 
> 
> >a band tour but doesn't always have the resources.  I suppose he is supporting
> >the release of his box set. 
> 
> >Jeff
> 
> 
> Box Set!!!! Who What Why Where and When?
> 
> I'd heard rumours about this last spring, but nothing since. When is it
> coming out? How big is it? Tell me more!
>  
All I know is that it's 3 CD's and according to New and Upcoming it will
be out in Februrary.  I guess I'm not all that excited, because his recorded
work hasn't done much for me until Daring Adventures.  So as far as tapes
from the vault are concerned, I'm not too excited.  What I want is a live
solo acoustic album recorded recently!!  It would be a cruel stroke if such
a disc were one of the three.  I'm alot more excited about the prospect of
seeing him play (I last saw him do a show on a bill with Roger McGuinn and
blew him away).  I thought such a live album was forthcoming (there were
live b-sides to the "Read About Love" single) but maybe not.  And if he comes
around I will more likely to take my tape along if a live recording doesn't
get released.

Shoot out the lights...
Jeff

Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll,junk
From: rcj@engin.umich.edu (R o d Johnson)
Subject: Re: Bands with black bassists
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 16:05:04 EST
Organization: Lost Tribes of Gazebo

In article <1992Dec11.183505.17042@ee.gatech.edu> wung@eecom.gatech.edu non-sequiturs:

>Um, are we feeling particularly inadequate today?  Maybe you should lay off the saltpeter.

No way!  It's helping me get control of my sexual appetites, and the
warden says I can have yard privileges back real soon if I keep taking
it. 

Too bad such a simple treatment isn't available for your
joke-blindness, though.  "Boosty" indeed.

-- 
       Rod Johnson  *  rcj@caen.engin.umich.edu  *  (313) 764-3103
    
                "What I do doesn't happen in a warehouse"
                                          --Jim Dickinson
Xref: sparky rec.music.misc:29274 rec.music.cd:8355
From: jsl@kepler.unh.edu (Chau)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: NEVERMIND's 13th track??
Date: 14 Dec 1992 06:33:11 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu
Keywords: nirvana, nevermind


TThe Nirvana CD's with the 13th track are the ones that are rare.  It was  
something like one in very seven had the extra track of 'garbage'.  They
CD's that have been recently in the stores do not have the extra track.  It
was only released a the first hundred thousand or so albums that were first
released.  From what i here.. the extra tracked albums should be worth more
in the long run.  When buying the album there is NO way to tell which one
has the extra track.  I guess it is a stroke of luck.


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From: warkent@ltisun14.epfl.ch (Ken Warkentyne)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: A Ray Shea Wannabe?  (was Re: Bands with black bassists)
Date: 14 Dec 92 11:30:12 GMT
	<1992Dec13.174714.1812@Csli.Stanford.EDU>
	<1gh6s6INNndi@life.ai.mit.edu>
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne---Laboratoire de
	Teleinformatique
In-reply-to: dmb@case.ai.mit.edu's message of 14 Dec 92 05:42:30 GMT

Uh oh, it looks like someone is going to go ballistic again.

Dave Baggett suggests that C. Glad and R. Shea have not been reading their
"Emily Postnews".  Well, below is an excerpt from the "Netiquette" posting
in news.announce.newusers.  Given that Dave Baggett's sarcasm and irony
detector seems broken (esp. with respect to Malcolm Humes's question about
Animal Logic), I have grave worries over his ability to understand it.

				------
    Q: I read an article that said, "reply by mail, I'll summarize."  What
    should I do?

    A: Post your response to the whole net.  That request applies only to
    dumb people who don't have something interesting to say.  Your
    postings are much more worthwhile than other people's, so it would be
    a waste to reply by mail.

				------
    Q: What about other important questions?  How should I know when to
    post?

    A: Always post them.  It would be a big waste of your time to find a
    knowledgeable user in one of the groups and ask through private mail
    if the topic has already come up.  Much easier to bother thousands of
    people with the same question.

				------
    Q: Somebody just posted a query to the net, and I want to get the
    answer too.  What should I do?

    A: Immediately post a following, including the complete text of the
    query.  At the bottom add, "Me too!"  If somebody else has done this,
    follow up their article and add "Me three," or whatever number is
    appropriate.  Don't forget your full signature.  After all, if you
    just mail the original poster and ask for a copy of the answers, you
    will simply clutter the poster's mailbox, and save people who do
    answer the question the joyful duty of noting all the "me (n)s" and
    sending off all the multiple copies.

--
Ken Warkentyne - warkent@ltisun.epfl.ch
                 Laboratoire de Teleinformatique, EPFL, Suisse.
Xref: sparky rec.music.misc:29334 rec.music.cd:8378
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: NEVERMIND's 13th track??
From: kmagnacca@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:14:00 EST
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <1gh9r7INNqoc@mozz.unh.edu>, jsl@kepler.unh.edu (Chau) writes:
> 
> TThe Nirvana CD's with the 13th track are the ones that are rare.  It was  
> something like one in very seven had the extra track of 'garbage'.  They
> CD's that have been recently in the stores do not have the extra track.  It
> was only released a the first hundred thousand or so albums that were first
> released.  From what i here.. the extra tracked albums should be worth more
> in the long run.  When buying the album there is NO way to tell which one
> has the extra track.  I guess it is a stroke of luck.

   There is a way if it's a used copy and they'll let you open it.
I compared my copy without it to a friend's with it, and on the one
with the track the blue print on the CD extends all the way to the
hole in the center; on the one without it stops about 3/8" out, like
most CD's do.  They also have completely different pressing numbers,
the ones on the CD.  On the disc with the track it is read from the
bottom because of the printing and has quite a lot of numbers; without,
it reads from the top and only has four or five numbers.

Karl
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From: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Human League
Date: 18 Dec 92 15:17:01 GMT
Reply-To: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Organization: The University Of Edinburgh - Department Of Computer Science

And lo, climiepd@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Delbert ( Peter Climie )) spake unto the masses saying:
>
>> Whatever happened to the band the Human League????
>
> Last LP : Romantic? flopped a year or so ago now. 2 singles - Heart Like
> a Wheel & Soundtrack to a generation.

I'd be very surprised if it turned out to be the last (not sure if you
meant Last Ever or Most Recent there) - Phil seems pretty determined that
one way or another there'll be ten Human League albums. So far we've had,
erm, six (seven if you include the greatest hits disc).

Given the lack of success of _Romantic?_ (which was hardly surprising,
falling as it did halfway between trying to recapture their old sound and
fiddling around with a more modern dance aesthetic) I'd be pretty surprised
if they lasted much longer on Virgin though. I think their best chance of
dragging themselves out of the wilderness is to a) bring back Martin
Rushent as producer (the tracks he produced on _Romantic?_ were, surprise
surprise, the best ones) b) get back Jo Callis and Ian Burden neither of
whom seem to be doing very much these days anyway c) dump the two anonymous
nobodies they got to replace them and d) stick to trying to recapture their
old sound. If they go for a modern sound they'll only look silly and, given
the lack of "depth" that the post Marsh/Ware Human League had, their only
real hope is that there'll be an early 80s revival sometime soon (it seems
to be about the only period that we *haven't* had a revival of yet).

-- 
			Al Crawford - awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk
	  Department Of Computer Science, The University of Edinburgh
   Rm 1410, JCMB, Kings Buildings, Mayfield Rd, EDINBURGH, EH9 3JZ, Scotland
	     Tel: +44 (0) 31 650 5165  Fax: +44 (0) 31 667 7209
From: boek@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Christopher Boek)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: They're Coming To Take Me Away ...
Date: 20 Dec 92 23:59:36 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia

hirschgm@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:

>> --
>> |  ||| |||  |  ||| ||| |||  |  ||Christopher Boek - boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au
>> |  ||| |||  |  ||| ||| |||  |  ||  Dept Elec Eng Univ of Melbourne Australia
>> |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   | /  "Anybody remotely interesting is mad in
>> |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| \_/\_/\_/\_/\__/(:*-  some way or another"

>I don't have anything to offer, I just really dig this keyboard sig.   

>					--Joachim

Oh. Ta *:)

Chris.

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|  ||| |||  |  ||| ||| |||  |  ||Christopher Boek - boek@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au
|  ||| |||  |  ||| ||| |||  |  ||  Dept Elec Eng Univ of Melbourne Australia
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   | /  "Anybody remotely interesting is mad in
|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| \_/\_/\_/\_/\__/(:*-  some way or another"
Xref: sparky rec.music.misc:29208 rec.music.folk:8474
From: zen@death.Corp.Sun.COM (d)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.music.folk
Subject: Billy Bragg mailing list
Date: 12 Dec 1992 06:22:16 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: death.corp.sun.com

 Hello -- this is one of many periodic announcements of the Billy Bragg
mailing list -- "billy-bragg".  You can get on the list by mailing to:

billy-bragg-request@death.corp.sun.com

  You should get some kind of moderately timely response; if not, feel
free to mail to me -- zen@death.corp.sun.com.

  What is the list all about?  Basically, anything relating to Billy
Bragg is fair game.  Concerts (reviews and dates), recordings (albums,
cd's, promos, bootlegs, etc.), blathering fandom, personal quips, quotes,
and stories, etc.

  FYI, there are about 80+ people on the list, and the volume is
light.  If you desire to see the old articles posted since the list
started you can send me mail at "billy-bragg-request" (along with your
request to join, if you desire.)

  Welcome in advance!

 -- dan
From: ajd@oit.itd.umich.edu (Arthur Delano)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Albums you can't BELIEVE you bought... but liked!
Date: 13 Dec 1992 21:42:35 GMT
Organization: finchhaus
NNTP-Posting-Host: helen.oit.itd.umich.edu

In article <1992Dec13.195201.3623@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> prs9k@brain.med.virginia.edu (Phil Scarr) writes:
>In article <Bz5x5K.AA2@cs.dal.ca> lazarus@ug.cs.dal.ca (Chuck Turner) writes:
>>I don't think I'll ever crack the country barrier though =)
>I thought that too... And then along came Lyle Lovett...  The Johnny
>Cash Boxed Set on my shelf attests to the crumbling of THAT musical
>wall...  Be careful, or the same might happen to you!  :)

Hank Williams (Sr.), Patsy Cline, and Bob Wills are all great places
to start.  At least two of the three have excellent box sets out.

AjD
-- 
                       ajd@oit.itd.umich.edu
    "Whatever makes the most money will happen." -- Eleanor Glyn
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Bands with black bassists
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:06:57 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <4362@unisql.UUCP> ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:
>In article <1gbpd7INNmqi@life.ai.mit.edu> dmb@case.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett) writes:
|>In article <4345@unisql.UUCP> ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:
|>>Probably; there's lots of famous jazz guys on bass, though I can't think 
|>>of any.
|>
|>Stanley Clarke
|
|
|Why, thank you, Dave.  I had the Mingus turned up so loud that I really 
|couldn't think of a single jazz bass player.

I still had some stuff by Ron Carter and Ray Brown to listen to first
before I could think of one.

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From: David Brady <Brady_David@Tandem.Com>
Subject: Re: A wacky new look (was Re: David Byrne, new group?)
X-Xxdate: Wed, 16 Dec 92 23:40:02 GMT
Organization: Tandem, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d15
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:38:15 GMT

In article <1gl1d7INN115@smaug.West.Sun.COM> jim hori, jimh@pongo.Eng.Sun.COM
writes:
>Yeah, that was probably him since he played the KROQ acoustic
>Christmas party in LA the same weekend. The Times reviewer mentioned
>his set included covers of Prince's "The Future" and Crystal
>Waters' "Gypsy Woman". Would love to hear those.

He did those same songs at KITS (S.F.) acoustic thingy last weekend along with
a Neil Young and Richard Thompson cover.  Nice of the radio station to air the
concert live - made a nice 45 minute tape.  :-)  Oh yeah.  He also did Road to
Nowhere, Psycho Killer, Girls on my Mind, (a new one), and Flowers.
--
email: Brady_David@Tandem.Com
(Note: This message is from me, not my employer.  React accordingly.)

Always remember -  David Brady IS Lee Harvey!
From: tcw@kepler.unh.edu (The Meathead)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Bands with black bassists
Date: 15 Dec 1992 03:53:20 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

In article <4377@unisql.UUCP> ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:
>In article <15880@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>>
>>I still had some stuff by Ron Carter and Ray Brown to listen to first
>>before I could think of one.
>
>John, it's people like you who are ruining this newsgroup for David Baggett.
>Do you have to be so rude and mean-spirited?  Besides, Ron Carter is a *rap*
>bassist, and everyone knows that means he's not a musician.

  You know, sometimes it's difficult to tell if people are being sarcastic
or they just don't know what they're talking about. I hope this is sarcasm!

-- 
|    Tim Webb               |    cold summer listening                      |
|    tcw@kepler.unh.edu     |      hot color melting the anger to stone     |
From: v115p8d6@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (she listens like her head's on fire..)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: The Story of My Life: name that tune
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:50:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1gdsarINN49e@agate.berkeley.edu>, ellen@opua.Berkeley.EDU (Ellen M. Sentovich) writes...
>The words "the story of my life" are repeated in a song
>I heard today on Live 105.  Anybody know the name/artist?
> 

Sixteen, clumsy and shy
thats the story of my life

if that sounds anything like it, it is a Smiths song from Louder Than
Bombs. Can't remember the song title though. ugh.

>-- 
>Ellen M. Sentovich
>Dept of EECS
>UC Berkeley
>ellen@ic.Berkeley.EDU
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From: stewarte@sco.COM (nothing a bullet in the belly couldn't cure)
Subject: Slam Stewart (was Re: TOP TEN FAMOUS JAZZ BASSISTS)
Organization: Captain Napalm's Thermonuclear League of Liberty
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:36:52 GMT


Joan of Arc was burned for claiming that malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) said:
 
>** Bonus points to anyone who knows who Slam Stewart is and who can identify
>any recordings he is on.  

Why, Slam Stewart was one of the first jazz bassists to hum along with
his bowed solos (actually, as far as I can think he was one of the
first jazz bassists to play bowed solos at all).  The Swedish label
Tax has released two volumes of Slim & Slam recordings, this being
Stewart and the great Slim Gaillard.  I also have a 1981 Delos album 
Stewart did with Major Holley, another bassist who hummed (unison, rather 
than Stewart's octaves) along with his arco.  Very tame compared to the
extra-hip Slim & Slam material.  Historically Slim & Slam are, I think,
a significant link between the big-band hipsterism of Cab Calloway
and the R&B that formed the basis of rock & roll;  Louis Jordan is
another link, whose influence on rock & roll is more tangible.  

For those of you who don't give a tinker's damn about history, the
Slim & Slam material is fun and shows off Gaillard's invented slang,
"vout" (or "McVouty" or some variation).  The first Tax volume includes
a couple versions of their hit "Flat Foot Floogie" (or is it Flat Feet
Floogie -- ah, it's not important).

He's also recorded a duo album with guitarist Bucky Pizzarelli, and
appears on recordings I have by Lester Young and Art Tatum (separately).
But that's cheating, because I had to look in my database for those
last three.

-- (just call me Slam) Stewart
-- 
"A cold noodle is like a dog without fur...recognizable, 
 but very unpleasant."
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