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From: popovich@cs.columbia.edu (Steve Popovich)
Subject: Re: Format of Code Exams?
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 03:29:33 GMT

> Questions that require perfectly spelled answers (such as calls) 
> should be multiple choice.  The rest should be fill in the blank.

Huh?  They ALL require perfectly spelled answers.  Misspelling an
answer means that at least one character in the answer was mis-copied,
thus no credit for the question.

> Multiple choice allow for a marginal error in copying callsigns 
> and such (they are sent only ONCE).

Most, if not all, code tests seem to follow this basic pattern:

VVV VVV
CQ CQ CQ DE <SENDER> K
<SENDER> DE <RECEIVER> KN
<RECEIVER> DE <SENDER>
<QSO MATERIAL>
AR <RECEIVER> DE <SENDER> SK

Maybe not exactly, but you get the idea.  You get four cracks at
copying the sending call, and three at copying the receiving call.
Callsigns are perhaps the ONE item that you would have NO excuse for
not copying properly on a Morse code exam ;-).

> Fill-in-the-blanks test comprehension and minimize passing with pure luck.
> Just a thot.

Yeah, but then again, what's wrong with passing with pure luck?  It
sure beats failing with pure luck, like you can do by dropping the
wrong few characters on a code test (say, one character in each of
four words that turn out to be answers to the fill-in-the-blank
questions and enough other randomly spaced characters to keep you just
below a minute of solid copy).  IMHO, code tests are a rather bogus
licensing criterion in any case, so I would tend toward leniency
within the allowable testing guidelines.  As far as I, as a VE, am
concerned, as long as the FCC and my VEC allow multiple-guess ;-)
tests, why not use them?
	-Steve, WB3I
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: harp@bnr.ca (Alan Harp)
Subject: Re: DRAKE TR-7(A) XCVR
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Research Triangle Park, NC
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:00:36 GMT

In article <#602qxh@rpi.edu> root@june.cmp.rpi.edu (J.R. Ordon) writes:
>Has anybody out there owned or used the Drake TR-7(A) xvcr???

>I'd like to know it's good and bad points & How would it compare
>in performance to rigs like the Icom 751A & Kenwood TS-830s..

>Any comments would be appreciated...

>thanks,
>--------------------------------------


>Email: root@june.cmp.rpi.edu
>Jeff Ordon WV2N
I own a Drake TR-7 tranciever.  I've had it since it was new.  It was
considered by many as the best when it came out.  I have an IC761.  I have
them set up so they can both recieve at the same time.  I work split with
the TR-7 receiver in one ear listening to the DX station and the IC761 is
used to find the station he is working.  The TR-7 receiver in my opinion
is almost as good as the IC761.  The TR-7 will go on the WARC bands but
not as nicely as the newer rigs.  Drake still provides service for them.
If you get a chance to buy a one at a good price it is a good choice if
you can't afford several $K for a new one.  I don't have any plans  to 
sell mine.

****************************************************************************
* Alan Harp K4PB     *     Bell-Northern Research      *   CW FOREVER      *
* mail: harp@bnr.ca  *   Research Triangle Park, NC    *                   *
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From: tedwards@eng.umd.edu (Thomas Grant Edwards)
Subject: Yugoslav hams?
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 11:23:55 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

What is the current status of hams in Yugoslavia, especially
arround the Belgrade area?  Does the U.S. have a third-party
agreement in effect?
From: rc@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov (Robert Carpenter)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Public Message to Mike Owen, W9IP
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:23:32 GMT
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology
	formerly National Bureau of Standards
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

I see the signature:

Michael Owen W9IP (a youngster despite the callsign)
			^
			|
			+-- maybe, compared with me, but you'll find
			    a lot of people who read this Group who
			    think that 40 is OLD...

Sorry, Mike, just couldn't resist.  Maybe you'll remain "39 amd holding"
like Jack Benny did for many years.

73 and Best Wishes,
Bob W3OTC
From: kurt@cs.tamu.edu (Kurt Freiberger)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Who do repeater coordinators represent?
Date: 5 Jan 1993 22:04:58 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Texas A&M University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: dsls1.cs.tamu.edu
Keywords: trunk, trunks, trunking

In article <1993Jan5.211735.11844@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, cep4478@ultb.isc.rit.edu (C.E. Piggott ) writes:
|> Sounds neat, I'd like to hear more about these potential trunked ham
|> experiments.  It'd be nice if someone would post a description of
|> these trunking systems in commercial use (how they acquire a free
|> channel, when they give that channel up, how a receiving radio knows
|> that it's group is on a particular channel, etc.)
|> 
It'd never work.  Some bozo would exercise his rights and start a simplex
conversation on the admin channel....

I'd like to score the description of that myself.

-- 
Kurt Freiberger, wb5bbw	  kurt@cs.tamu.edu   409/847-8607  fax:409/847-8578
Dept. of Computer Science, Texas A&M University      DoD #264: BMW R80/7 pilot
"We preserve our freedom using three boxes: ballot, jury, and cartridge."
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From: dannyb@panix.com (Daniel Burstein)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: NASA Project Dante; why fiber cable?
Date: 6 Jan 93 13:37:04 GMT
Organization: Panix, NYC

In <POPOVICH.93Jan5211354@morningside.cs.columbia.edu> popovich@cs.columbia.edu (Steve Popovich) writes:

<lots of good stuff deleted>

>The radio was not used was due to a combination of factors, primarily
>driving us was time, the amount of information, the amount of
>available power on the Dante, the fact that we were not line
>of sight and the desire to only put computers on Dante that we were
>used to programming (again the time factor) and could withstand -40C.
                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
hmm, -40C.  I wonder what that is in F??   <g>

danny (brrr, is it really summertime in antarctica?) burstein

dannyb@panix.com
From: headrick@radar.nrl.navy.mil (James M. Headrick)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 1200 MHz is not microwave etc.
Date: 8 Jan 93 13:46:29 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

K4DII said:

"By the way, these letter designations were apparently originated by the
old Sperry Electronic Tube Division, when they arbitrarily chose them to
indicate the frequency range of their microwave tubes.  This was probably
over 40 years ago, before they moved to Florida"

My memory is that we used the letter designators K, X, S, L, P as early as
1941 when I attended the MIT Radar School.  King Xerexes Seduces Lovely
Princess was a memory aid used.  The actual frequency bands used by specific
equipments was classified, so the letter designators were handy.  Actually
the word radar was classified in 1941 - so the school was called Instruction
in Ultra High Frequency Techniques or something like that.

            73 Jim W3CPB  headrick@radar.nrl.navy.mil
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From: glenne@sr.hp.com (Glenn Elmore)
Subject: Re: [Re:] Microwave Ovens as Transmitters
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:59:18 GMT
Organization: HP Sonoma County (SRSD/MWTD/MID)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

  I don't know whether n6ca built a transmitter or not but I'm pretty
sure that Chuck Swedblom, wa6exv phase locked (injection locking?)  an
oven and managed to use rectangular downspout drainpipe for waveguide to
feed an antenna. I think he was trying to do EME with the thing.

  There was also an article in one of the trade journals, Microwaves&RF,
Microwave Journal or something where someone had injection locked an
oven (for an ATV final,as I remember). I think that the 73 mag article
was about that same time.

  Chuck would no doubt be a good one to talk to since I think he is now
retired and fulltime hacking on such things.


Glenn Elmore n6gn

amateur IP:	glenn@SantaRosa.ampr.org
Internet:	glenne@sr.hp.com 





Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,comp.sys.atari.st
From: schumann@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Johann Schumann)
Subject: F3C Radio-FAX with atariST?
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 17:22:53 GMT

Is there any program (ftp ?) for receiving F3C Radio-FAXs on the
atari 1040ST (or IBM PC)? Where can I find circuit-diagrams for an 
adaptor radio-atari?

Thanks
Johann

------------------------------------------------------------
Johann Schumann
Intellektik -  AI Research Group at the Chair of Computer Architecture
Institut fuer Informatik
Technische Universitaet Muenchen
Augustenstr. 46 RGB
8000 Muenchen 2, Germany
email: schumann@informatik.tu-muenchen.de
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From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: ARRL 10 meter preamp help?
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:21:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.160549.3344@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> little@nuts2u.enet.dec.com (nuts2u::little) writes:
>I just finished building a bread board version of the dual gate MOSFET 10 
>meter preamp described in the ARRL Handbook.  My problem is that I can't
>get the thing to function properly.  At the moment it operates more as an
>attenuator than an amplifier.  
>
>I can peak the variable capacitor, but find very little change in signal
>strength when adjusting the slug tuned coil.  The coil is one I wound
>myself on a form a salvaged from another coil.
>
>The write up describes circuit placement as not being critical and this is
>after all only 28 MHz.  I'm at a loss to figure out how to "debug" the
>circuit.  Any suggestions?

I'll take a guess and say your salvaged coil's core is the wrong material
for this frequency range. It's probably resonant at a grossly different
frequency. As a quick check, wind an air core coil for the proper inductance,
consult the front of the Handbook for the formula, and see if the preamp
works. If it does, then the core's the culprit.

Gary

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From: rick@cs.sunysb.edu (Richard Spanbauer)
Subject: Re: Anybody want to talk about Clover?
Organization: State University of New York, Stony Brook
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:25:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.103227.7760@walter.cray.com> jwl@ferrari.cray.com (Jim Lynch) writes:

	[edited]

>I think that there is the necessary talent hanging around to come up with a decent
>design.  Hams aren't suppose to get rich from their hobby.  Helping each other is a way
	  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	Is this written down somewhere, Jim?  It takes talent and resources
	to build modern engineering projects.  Some folks, to the benefit of
	us all, have chosen to make their work available for "free".  Others
	chose to be compensated for their efforts.  It doesn't dimish HAL
	and/or Ray Petit at all in my eyes that they chose the latter option.

>of life for us.  We could do it if we wanted to.  I can't, I'm too stupid.  But there are
>folks reading this that can.
>
>Jim Lynch, Sales Analyst,  Cray Research, Inc. / ARS: K4GVO

				Rick Spanbauer, SUNY/Stony Brook, WB2CFV
From: labelle@hfglobe.intel.com (George La Belle)
Subject: Aluminum tubing availability?
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:17:53 GMT


	Is there a mail order source for al. tubing of the 6061/6063
	variety used in commercial antennas?

	George
	WB6YZZ
	Portland Oregon
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: rosenaue@mpr.ca (Dennis Rosenauer)
Subject: Spectrum Allocation
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B. C.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 20:28:50 GMT

>>Band Designations
>>-----------------
>>  0 Hz- 20 KHz --- Audio
>> 20KHz- 540KHz --- VLF
>>540KHz-  30MHz --- Radio
>> 30MHz-   up   --- Voodoo
>
>Naw...you're incomplete:
>
>   0 Hz-  20KHz: audio
>  20KHz- 540KHz: VLF
> 540KHz-  30MHz: slow waves
>  30MHz- 512MHz: radio
> 512MHz-1300MHz: nosebleed
>1300MHz-  10GHz: voodoo
>  10GHz- 300GHz: pixie dust and mirrors
> 300GHz up: daylight

Well if you are an RF/Microwave type you get .....

   0 Hz-  20KHz: DC
  20KHz- 540KHz: DC
 540KHz-  30MHz: DC
  30MHz- 512MHz: audio
 512MHz-1300MHz: VLF
1300MHz-  10GHz: radio
  10GHz- 300GHz: VHF
 300GHz up: UHF

-- 
Dennis Rosenauer VE7BPE                  rosenaue@mprgate.mpr.ca
MPR Teltech Ltd.
Radio & Satellite Network Development    "For every vision there is an
Burnaby, B. C.                            equal and opposite revision"
From: eahu099@orion.oac.uci.edu (Asako Mariather Kurosaka-Black)
Subject: New car causes RFI on 2M - Help!
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 5 Jan 93 08:39:39 GMT

I just bought a 1993 Chevy Astro Van with a digital insturment panel.
Unfortunately, I am an T-hunter, and my car puts out a birdie? on 
146.565, or there abouts.  That is the local hunt freq, so I do
have a problem.  I pick it up with the installed FT5100 as well as
an on an HT with a rubber duck while sitting in the driver's seat.
Sometimes it is stronger 5 or 10 kc up or down from 6.565, but
it's almost always there.  It appears when I turn on the accessories,
even before then engine is running, and persists while driving.
I tried pulling fuses, and found the problem went away when I pulled
the fuse marked "BRAKE" which, I believe feeds the anti-lock brake
computer and the digital speedometer.  Thats what I have learned so far,

Any suggestions?  Thanks!

73 de KD6BCH eahu099@orion.oac.uci.edu

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: chuck@eng.umd.edu (Chuck Harris - WA3UQV)
Subject: Re: Morality vs. THE LAW
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 18:39:38 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, Department of Electrical Engineering

In article <9301062036.AA25759@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil> mgb@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil writes:
... A bunch of stuff about courteous ham behavior, and closed repeaters...

>There are GIVERS... and there are TAKERS... there are NICE PEOPLE and

The problem is that there are a large number of us folks that consider
operators of closed "vanity" repeaters to be "TAKERS" of our public
frequencies.

We would much rather that these closed "vanity" repeaters be on shared
frequency pairs, so as to free up space for other more effective public uses.

>there are ASSHOLES.   I personally would like to be remembered as a nice

Remember!  Nice people don't call other people "assholes".

73,

Chuck Harris - WA3UQV
chuck@eng.umd.edu
From: aargyle@sobeco.com (a.argyle)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: old QST's and old QSL cards
Summary: what are old qsl cards and qst's worth?
Keywords: QST, QSL RADIO amateur
Date: 8 Jan 93 05:16:22 GMT
Distribution: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Organization: Sobeco Ernst & Young

My grandfather was a radio amateur (he got his license in 1913). I have a collection of QST's from the 1920's and a bunch of QSL cards from the same period. Are these worth anything? Many of the Qst's still have their covers but most have either lost their covers or the covers are loose.

                -aargyle-
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: mikef@pacifier.rain.com (Mike Freeman)
Subject: Re: Online Repeater Directory! Watch For It!
Organization: Pacifier BBS
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 05:26:33 GMT


I again request (plead) that, either in addition to or as a
substitute for the Windows or NT version of the On-line
Repeater Directory software, a version be built for MSDOS or in
portable C without fancy pictures so that we blind amateurs
could use it without hassles.

Thanks in advance.
-- 
Mike Freeman <K7UIJ>    |       Internet: mikef@pacifier.rain.com
301 N.E. 107th Street   |         or freeman@watsun.cc.columbia.edu
Vancouver, WA 98685 USA |       GEnie: M.FREEMAN11
Telephone (206)574-8221 |       I doubt, therefore I might be!
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White)
Subject: On private repeaters
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:05:32 GMT

This subject surfaces every few years, and becomes a Big Issue for 
a while.  Here's my  $ 2e-2 worth:

Repeaters are private property, and are used by the general
ham population only with the permission of the owner.  However,
there is no such thing as a private frequency; all ham frequencies
belong to all hams, all the time.  Repeater coordination is
a voluntary gentleman's (and woman's) agreement to avoid
the input and output frequencies so as to allow the repeater
operator to better serve the needs of the amateur community.
The holder of a coordinated freq is, I feel, a steward of the frequency, 
and
has an obligation to use it in a way that supports and betters the
local amateur population.  If an operator want's to have a private
repeater, that's fine with me; I certainly have no right to use his
repeater against his will.  In that case, however, I feel he has
abbrogated his end of the gentleman's agreement, and I am free to
use the repeater frequencies for my own purposes, subject only
to the rules and customs about interference; in other words, when
the closed repeater is not actually on the air, the freqs are fair game.
If I'm using the freq, in my opinion the closed repeater users have 
to wait till I'm done before they key up; they have no right to
ask me to reserve the frequency for their exclusive use.

Just one hams opinion...

Mike, N4PDY

************************
* These are my opinions only.*
************************
From: pryack@MtHolyoke.edu (Paul Ryack)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Logging software
Date: 8 Jan 1993 19:38:07 -0500
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
NNTP-Posting-Host: slab.mtholyoke.edu
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

What MS-DOS logging programs do people like, and why?  The one I've been
using for the last year doesn't know how to sort without corrupting the
QSO data (ouch!). 

--
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				|W1ETH@K1MEA.#WMA.MA.USA.NOAM
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From: rrgd50@email.sps.mot.com (Chris Terwilliger)
Subject: Re: 1200Mhz is not a microwave band!
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Organization: Motorola
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:02:58 GMT

> In article <9301051454.AA02438@tix.timeplex.com> taylor@tix.timeplex.COM (Seth Taylor) writes:
> >Since so called "microwave ovens" operate in the UHF designation
> >frequency range why don't we call them a "UHF" ? Think about that
> >one.
> 

by the way...has anyone ever used tried to modulate old oven parts???
Seems like a good project for someone with an oven they don't use any
more...


* Chris Terwilliger, KB7PPT                rrgd50@email.sps.mot.com *
* Motorola                        "And now, the sequence of events, *
* 2100 E. Elliot Rd. EL374         in no particular order."         *
* Tempe, AZ  85284                                     - Dan Rather *
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: rice@ttd.teradyne.com
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Organization: Teradyne Inc., Telecommunications Division
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 01:11:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan2.194732.25170@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>, laborde@oak.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Gregory R. LaBorde) writes:
> interference. Period. A local repeater I use is co-channeled with one in San
> Diego. Interference is not normally a problem, but during late summer ducting
> some outlying users of that repeater are annoyed when they receive trans-
> missions from our local one (weather and topography conspire). One guy 
> repeatedly gets on our repeater (using his beam) and politely informs users
> that they are using an "uncoordinated and illegal" repeater. So what, as I 
> can choose to ignore him, right? Problem is, he will continue to break, over
> and over, politely repeating the same comment. He never transmits a carrier or
> tones or anything, but his persistence has made it difficult to continue a
> QSO. I checked with a representative of the coordinating board, and he said 
> that regardless of whether or not there is a legitimate interference issue, that
> guy is guilty of malicious interference if he prevents us from completing our
> QSO. I chose not to pursue it because the ducting is temporary and the problem
> goes away until next summer. 
> 
> -grl.
> -----

We have a similar situation with ducting, in our area (Chicago). In the summer,
ducting between the Chicago/Milwaukee areas and northwestern Indiana is a
common occurrance. Over the years a simple arrangement has arisen for open
repeaters in both areas. In each area, all 'open' repeaters are equipped with
an area wide 'common' P.L. tone. When the duct opens, the open repeaters turn
on P.L. Bingo - no more interference on the inputs. Since the P.L. tone is
common to all local systems, it presents little problem for everyone to equip
their radios with one frequency.

This solution has been working very well in this area for years.

   John Rice        K9IJ  
   rice@ttd.teradyne.com  


From: tcline@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Ted Cline)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 05:15:08 GMT
Subject: Origin of "88's" and "73's" ?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc


Speaking of the meaning of "72":

> And George_Noyes said:
> 
> I believe it is just a "low power version" of 73's.  (If I recall 72
> really did have a totally different meaning in the old spark days, but
> it has fallen to disuse.  Most of the conventional numbers such as 73's,
> 88's were part of a larger list of messages at one time, no longer
> used.)


I'm interested in these _old_ number codes.
----> What _is_ the origin of "88's" and "73's" ?
----> Were there others, now no longer used?

Email or post responses.


73's

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Organization: very little
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 23:42:15 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.151546.17029@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) writes:
>In article <8309@lib.tmc.edu> jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan02.200308.16355@eng.umd.edu> chuck@eng.umd.edu (Chuck Harris - WA3UQV) writes:
>>>If you still can't deal with your
>>>"great act of charity", then take your repeater down, and let someone else use
>>>the allocation.  There are plenty of hams out there who would love to put up an
>>>open repeater on your pair!
>>
>>Fortunately for reason, the FCC disagrees. I suggest you reread 97.205(e).
>
>What does limiting user control of ancillary functions have to do with 
>anything in this discussion?
>

Yeah, I wonder why it keeps getting brought up?  The rule does not say
that you can only limit users control of ancillary functions.



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