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From: tt@wag.caltech.edu (Toshi Takeuchi)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: 4th Density Relationships <repost> complete article
Keywords: channeled
Date: 5 Nov 92 06:00:27 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: sgi1.wag.caltech.edu

This channeler is real as far as I can tell.

The first thing I noticed as I began to read the article:

Boom, pop, a shift in my energy upwards.

Throat comes on, heart comes on, crown comes on, there's ALOT of gonad-throat
energy there.

I am not normally affected in that fashion unless I get around my teacher,
who balances out my energy, or else I get around or feel someone else
who has consciousness.

I really shouldn't say stuff like this, but I am hoping that the only 
people who read this are the people who can use this information.

Please, start to become aware of your energy.  Focus through the
heart and above the head, the best you can!

All right folks, I've already dug a hole for myself, so I'll continue 
to talk about this stuff.  (I know this sounds freaky, but...)

People who have awareness will test your awareness.

First, they'll focus on you and then focus on their chakras.  

Second, they will observe what happens to the energy in your being
as it is transmitted to you.

--This can happen when someone is next to you or miles away!!!

If your solar plexus is open, then it will flow up through your
heart and up through the brow and up.  

The person who transmitted the energy will feel it move up your
body because it will transmit back to the sender.

A similar reaction will occur in the gonads and root if your chakras are
open on that level.

HERE'S THE KICKER,

If a person knows that you are not too aware of solar plexus energy, then
they know that they can MANIPULATE you in the solar plexus.  The same is
true of the gonad and root systems.

(One who is in tune with higher energies would never manipulate for
 their personal use.)

WE ALL NEED AWARENESS so that we won't be manipulated.  If everyone could
feel solar-plexus energy, then no-one can manipulate each other or
hide because we know what's going on by what we feel is transmitted
from the other people.

--So how does this apply to what you read etc.?

Well, you can focus, literally, on the information you are reading.

If there is conciousness in the words, then it will flow through
your body in the capacity that you are capable.

This means that you can evaluate things BASED UPON WHERE YOU ARE.

Explicitly, this means that we can only evaluate from a limited
perspective, so we often miss the whole picture.

I have a limited awareness; I desperately need others, like this
channeler, or like my teacher to help me to focus for growth.

Please, please work on your awareness and help me grow.

It is very easy to get lost and forget about what's really important.

Toshi
tt@wag.caltech.edu
From: rjp1@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (be here now)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: What's your SIQ?
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:53:15 GMT

Yes.  

Besides, many of my own illusions are now being broken.
So I'm not about to quit now.

) Spiritual Intelligence Test.
) 
) (Please answer each question in 25 words or less)
) 
) 1) What is the soul?

No.  The question is a concept in search of (yet) more concept.
Let it go.  Be without descriptions, concepts, and beliefs.
Transcend all mindstuff.  Shpoobda.

) 2) What is the purpose of human life?

Today, I re-entered the waking world from the state of sleep.
Dreaming, within the dreamtime it occurs to me.  As within
all lifeforms, to be.

Or to quote John Lennon:  Life is what happens to you while
you're busy making other plans.  Ah, answering this article
is not the testing of SIQ.  Don't be ridiculous!


--
Bob Pietkivitch     | "Moon, my long lost friend, is smiling from above."
rjp1@ihspa.att.com  |  -- Genesis, Stagnation 1970
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Subject: Re: what the hell
From: emiddlec@mora.gac.edu (Eric Middlecamp)
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:42:45 -0600

In article <101107@bu.edu>  writes:
>what the hell does bigfoot have to do with religion???????
>
>Please enlighten me!!!!!!
>
>           Viper1

"Boot to the head!" <whap!>
From: kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: What's your SIQ?
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 04:03:46 EST
Reply-To: kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us
Organization: Kalki's Infoline BBS, Aiken, SC, USA

farris@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Lorenzo Farris) writes:

> So, Kalki, does Krsna frown on having a sense of humor?  And the test
> should probably be renamed Ability-to-memorize-ancient-dogma Test.
> do you ever actually laugh? I mean besides at how spiritually ignorant
> the rest of us are.

Thought you weren't going to respond to us any more.

Sincerely,
Kalki Dasa

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      |  Don't forget to chant:   Hare Krishna Hare Krishna   |
      |                           Krishna Krishna Hare Hare   |
      |                           Hare Rama Hare Rama         |
      |                           Rama Rama Hare Hare         |
      |                                                       |
      |   Kalki's Infoline BBS Aiken, South Carolina, USA     |
      |        (kalki33!kalki@lakes.trenton.sc.us)            |
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From: pul@hardy.u.washington.edu (Arbaline)
Subject: Re: What's your SIQ?
Summary: Questions, questions :)
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 06:29:49 GMT

In article <VyJoTB3w165w@kalki33> kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us writes:
>(Please answer each question in 25 words or less)
>1) What is the soul?

The immortal upper mental/causal body of Man from which each
personality incarnation descends, send forth to store all positive
experiences for fulfillment of the Plan.

>2) What is the purpose of human life?

To experience our and God's Creation by necessarily separating away
from the One Light and then evolving through soul growth back to union
with THAT.

-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-
|      Walter D. "Cruiser1" Pullen     -     pul@milton.u.washington.edu      |
-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-
|   "Who am I, What am I?  As I am, I am not.  But as we are, I AM.  And to   |
-   you my creation, My Perfect Love is your Perfect Freedom. And I will be   -
|   with you forever and ever, until the End, and then forever more." - GOD   |
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From: gpalo@digi.lonestar.org (Gerry Palo)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: God
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:54:36 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

>From: mirage@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dean Joseph Sanvitale)
>Conclusion:  If God isn't, then we sure have made a mess for nothing haven't
>             we.
>             
>             If God is, then we sure have made a mess for Something haven't
>             we.
>
>I don't know which is worse.  Maybe I should ask God.

Consider a third possibility, that God has let us go on our own as you
let a teenager go on his own.  We are removed from him for a while, at
least in the sense that we are not consciously sitting in his lap.  
Adolescence is a dangerous and lonely (but also challenging and exciting)
time in which one often becomes distanced from ones parents, and wise 
parents will not interfere.  They know that you will never become your
own person if they keep the strings tied. Some things you have to learn
by yourself.  Not everyone survives, but most do, and when you do come 
into your own as an adult it is a wonderful thing rediscover the real
humanity of the adults you once rejected and that you have grown
up too.

Our whole human race is going through something like adolescence now.
The world political and cultural stage is full of the same kinds of
chaos, rebellion, confusion, and denial -- but also the hope, excitement,
exhileration and idealism -- that accompanies the individual's coming
into adulthood.  The old drug dealer devil is lurking around the campus
determined to snatch us away, but we will survive.  We have not been 
abandoned by the angels.  But they are waiting for us to call on them.
And they expect great things from us, things that were never seen before
in heaven or on earth.

You can always ask God, even if you haven't phoned home for a long
time.  And read and meditate on the holy books.  They are good medicine
and good food.

Gerry
From: farris@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Lorenzo Farris)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: Really?
Date: 11 Nov 92 13:55:16 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Nov11.081055.3753@news.unomaha.edu>, phoenix@cwis.unomaha.edu (Shannon Chris Saltzman) writes:
:Perhaps you did not look in the"holy pages" under covenants.
:God made and agreement with us.
:In jewish times he was with us through the arc of the covenant.
:When Jesus died he no longer was just with us,he came to live inside
:us.
:This is what My bible says.If yours reads differently then maybe we
:should get together and see which is right.

Do you believe everything you read? And if not, why the Bible and not
something else. It might be better to describe how and where you see
God than to resort to holy books that purport to describe the
omnipotent being. Otherwise, how do I distinguish it from all the
other religions/mythologies I can read? What does God call you to do,
and how does doing that impact your life? Don't tell me what some book
says. If a science fiction author can invent a religion that people
really believe, why should I take any religion on faith?

:It is my belief that God is within us now. The Bible also says that
:Jesus knocks and if we answer he will come into our lives and NEVER
:leave. Maybe you dont call that a calling.

What if you don't want Jesus in your life? 

:Sorry to disillusion you with my opinions but maybe you need to be
:woken up if you think that you are alone spiritually.

More evidence of the power of Eris! How on earth could the statement
of a belief in god disillusion an atheist!? And how do you really
expect to wake anyone up by just saying 'Wake up!'? To convince a
rational person to change their beliefs, you have only two routes:
provide rational arguments and evidence, or give them an experience
which forces them to reevaluate. Relying on a book that has gone
through millenia of a monastic game of telephone will only convert the
gullible.

:I believe Jesus is alive now and working even in your life and if
:you listen hard enough(dont hurt yourself) you will here him knock.
:If you are half the philosopher you appear to be God can use that to
:his advantage and if you arent he can use you anyway.

That's awful rude of Her if you don't want to be used!

:If you want to believe you are so unimportant to God that he would leave
:you on this rock alone thats fine.I understand but dont spoil it for
:the rest of us okay?

"Oh, my goodness me, you are soooo lost!":-)
How does a statement of doubt spoil it for anyone? Is your belief so
fragile that a statement of evidence for atheism can so easily spoil
it? If so, it sounds like your belief was a bit overripe anyway.

:Mr Shannon Saltzman(see articles before for text)

		Lorenzo Farris, CSOB
-- 
"Once upon a time men were possessed    ******************************
by devils. Now they are not less        *  Lorenzo Farris            *
obsessed by ideas" -CG Jung             *  farris@ruhets.rutgers.edu *
					******************************
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From: jmv@grip.cis.upenn.edu (Jean-Marc Vezien)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Pee Wee's Pyramid
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:24:57 GMT
Followup-To: talk.religion.newage
Organization: GRASP Lab

In article <69355@cup.portal.com>, John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
> Dear Pyramid Builders: Remember these people who are going on the trip
> are conventional scientists and don't think like I do. 
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> John Winston

But then, who does ???
Too bad you were not on this trip... I would have loved to
see you ridiculized by those "conventional scientists".



JM.
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
From: phoenix@cwis.unomaha.edu (Shannon Chris Saltzman)
Subject: The time has come
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 03:03:07 GMT

The time has come to answer something.
The divine master doctrine.
I HAVE NOT been ramming my religion down other peoples throats
and I resent it being done to me. 
Jesus is not(in my opinion) one of several divine masters.
He is (in my opinion) Gods onbly son.
He is (in my opinion) the living embodyment of Gods love and mercy.
He payed(also my religious conviction) the price for us all to live 

with him despite our weaknesses.
I will not force this on this newsgroup because it isnt what they need
or want but I will not be silent While you ram your perverted image of
my God down theirs or my throat(s)!!!
Please state your opinions as such and let them decide or pick 
another God to misrepresent!

-- 
"Is doggie heavan kitty hell?"
     Stephanie Phoenix(age 6)
={}={}={}={}={}={}={}={}={}={}={}
From: kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: What's your SIQ?
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 03:25:20 EST
Reply-To: kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us
Organization: Kalki's Infoline BBS, Aiken, SC, USA

moskowit@panix.com (Len Moskowitz) writes:

> John Emery writes:
> 
> >To use this soul to love the God who created us and to give Him praise:
> >"You shall love the Lord your God with ...all your soul" (Matt 22:37).
> 
> Try Deuteronomy 6:5-9 for an earlier source for this quote.

Yep, that's it. But there's still the fact that the soul is not
something other than the person. It is the person himself. So to speak
of "having a soul" or "using the soul to..." is strictly inaccurate.

Sincerely,
Kalki Dasa

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      |  Don't forget to chant:   Hare Krishna Hare Krishna   |
      |                           Krishna Krishna Hare Hare   |
      |                           Hare Rama Hare Rama         |
      |                           Rama Rama Hare Hare         |
      |                                                       |
      |   Kalki's Infoline BBS Aiken, South Carolina, USA     |
      |        (kalki33!kalki@lakes.trenton.sc.us)            |
       -------------------------------------------------------
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Subject: Re: What's your SIQ?
From: emiddlec@mora.gac.edu (Eric Middlecamp)
Date: 8 Nov 92 21:56:46 -0600

Spiritual Intelligence Test.

(Please answer each question in 25 words or less)

1) What is the soul?

I am.

2) What is the purpose of human life?

Ha. Sort of an oxymoron. 
The purpose of my soul is love. Love is spiritual evolution, heaven, nirvana. Helping one another.
From: regina@tivoli.UUCP (Regina Foiles)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Interfaith weddings
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:59:11 GMT
Reply-To: regina@tivoli.UUCP (Regina Foiles)
Organization: Tivoli Systems Inc., Austin, TX

My sister and her boyfriend are getting married in June. She's protestant and he's jewish. Neither
a minister nor a rabi will marry them because neither one wants to convert to the others  
religion. My sister does want the wedding to be in a house of God. The only thing we can think
of to solve this problem is a Chapel with a non-denominational Chaplain. I'm sure that this is not 
a unique situation. Can someone who has gone through this before, or knows someone who has, give 
me some advice on how to help my sister and future brother-in-law? 
 
Please email me directly at regina@tivoli.com because I don't read this newsgroup.
 
Thanks in advance, 
        Regina Foiles
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From: ketil@sandel.ii.uib.no (Ketil M. Malde)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,alt.religion.kibology,alt.religion.scientology,alt.magnus.and.ketil
Subject: Re: Bigfootf spaceman?
Date: 7 Nov 92 00:54:43 GMT
	<Bx85tw.73H@world.std.com> <MAGNUS.92Nov6161907@bark-fddi.ii.uib.no>
Reply-To: ketil@ii.uib.no
Organization: student of numerical analysis at the University of Bergen, Norway

>>>>> On 6 Nov 92 16:19:07, magnus@bark-fddi.ii.uib.no (Magnus Alvestad) said:

>>>>> On Thu, 5 Nov 1992 04:01:07 GMT, kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry) said:

	Kibo> Winston is going to start following me around?  And
	Kibo> should I buy a whole metric wardrobe?  And what's with
	Kibo> Perot never blinking?  Is he a Scientologist?

	M> Hmm, Hannibal the Cannibal never blinks either - does that mean he's
	M> running for president..?

I thought he's Cthulhu's vice president candidate...

-ketil


--
 = Ketil Malde                     In real life:  ketil@ii.uib.no =
 = Nuke the whales!                    Honk if you love unicorns! =
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From: ashall@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Andrew S Hall)
Subject: Re: UFOs and Newage
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:55:38 GMT

In article <69224@cup.portal.com> John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>Subject: Ruins Of A 30,000 Year Old City. Part12a.
>  Here is a little bit more information about the city. A question was asked
>and the answer was given. Question, How old is the city? Robert Stanley:

**>According to my research and other documentation,**

 the Ancient City of Mu was
>first colonized some 30,000 years ago by beings from the Pleiades and Orion
>star systems via Alpha Centares.  The primitive earthlings were 7-8 foot
>tall and were already partially intermixed with the much older Reptillian
>races who since left this world. The Los Angeles Basin is still recognized
>by native American Indians as The Lost Land of the Lizard People.
> The actual name of the city is not Mu it is Kalimu.
>Ene Part 12a
>John Winston.


Some of us here aren't too hep on this stuff. We would GREATLY appreciate it if
you would kindly include your sources and"documentation."  As an old teacher's 
axiom goes: If I answer your question, then I have only given you information 
for this moment. If I tell you how to answer that question, I give you 
information for a lifetime.
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From: emery@tc.fluke.COM (John Emery)
Subject: Re: What's your SIQ?
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:18:54 GMT

In article <VyJoTB3w165w@kalki33> kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us writes:
>
>Spiritual Intelligence Test.
>
>(Please answer each question in 25 words or less)
>
>1) What is the soul?

I would like to share my heart on this matter.  I believe the soul
is the inner part of us which a loving God has created.

>2) What is the purpose of human life?

To use this soul to love the God who created us and to give Him praise:
"You shall love the Lord your God with ...all your soul" (Matt 22:37).
I have found that He is worthy of this love.  If someone were to ask me
why, I would say: because He so infinitely loves us.  Just think, the
One who created us always has His arms open to love us and care for as
a Father.  "I love you my Lord".

>       -------------------------------------------------------
>      |  Don't forget to chant:   Hare Krishna Hare Krishna   |
>      |                           Krishna Krishna Hare Hare   |
>      |                           Hare Rama Hare Rama         |
>      |                           Rama Rama Hare Hare         |
>      |                                                       |
>      |   Kalki's Infoline BBS Aiken, South Carolina, USA     |
>      |        (kalki33!kalki@lakes.trenton.sc.us)            |
>       -------------------------------------------------------

I have found that my loving Father just loves me to talk with Him and
share my heart with Him.  I do not need formal prayers or chants, He
just wants me to spend time with Him and to listen to His voice as He
speaks to me.  It is so wonderful to hear the voice of the Lord and do
according to His will.  I have found perfect peace in it.  

"I will listen to what God the LORD will say; He promises peace to His
 people, His saints- but let them not return to folly."  Psalm 85:8.

God bless you,

John  		"And He walks with me and He talks with me.  And He tells
		 me I am His own.  And the joy we share, as we tarry there,
		 none other has ever known"

		 There's none like my Lord Jesus!

-- 
John Emery		"You say we've risen to a new age of light.
emery@tc.fluke.COM       You're telling me what used to be wrong
			 is now right."
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From: emery@tc.fluke.COM (John Emery)
Subject: Re: God
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 01:20:39 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.035428.26631@leland.Stanford.EDU> mirage@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dean Joseph Sanvitale) writes:

>2.  God is never ther  But he WAS and he WILL BE.  History says so.  God 
>    did lots of stuff in the past.  As evidence I present the innumerable
>    holy books that proclaim his exploits.  Likewise, we expect God to be a 
>    big factor in the future as well, with most religions claiming God as
>    the guy who will facilitate the final days of existence and beyond.  
>    Unfortunately, God is never around today, right now in the present.
>    Never once have I heard of God doing anything contempory.

God is really here, Dean.  For the first 24 years of my life, I would
have never imagined that God was more than just someone on the pages of
a book or a myth or fairy tale.  But when I was 24 after, He broke through
to my heart.  He had given me enough glimpses of Himself that over a
period of time I finally surrendered to Him.  It was in this act of
surrendering myself over to Him that I found beyond any doubt that He is
real.  So real and so powerful has His wonderful presence been that it
has caused me to rearrange every area of my life to center around Him.

I have found He is always with me, although many times I am not aware of
Him because I'm so into my things and the things of this life.  But, oh
when I surrender my time and open myself up to commune with Him, He is
there and He is very real.  When He changed my life those 8 years ago
I found that God was able to communicate and make Himself known to me
through my spirit, a faculty that I was not aware of.  He is the love of
my life and when I pray to Him giving myself over to Him, I find the
deepest and richest fulfillment.

This verse has been proven true to me and I would just like to share it
with you as one that has blessed me.  Maybe it will bless you also:

"Come, all you who are thirsty, come to the waters; and you who have no
 money, come, buy and eat!  Come buy wine and milk without money and
 without cost.  Why spend money on what is not bread, and your labor
 on what does not satisfy?  Listen, listen to me, and eat what is good,
 and your soul will delight in the richest of fare.  Give ear and come
 to me; hear me, that your soul may live.  I will make an everlasting
 covenant with you, my faithful love promised to David."  (Isaiah 55:1-3)

This God loves us so much.  Thank you for letting me share my heart
and my experience of God loving me.

All my love to you.  Thanks for your article, it was very good.

God bless,
-- 
John Emery		"You say we've risen to a new age of light.
emery@tc.fluke.COM       You're telling me what used to be wrong
			 is now right."
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