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From: frostmd@uhura.aston.ac.uk (MD FROST)
Subject: Re: Info on PP&S 040/500 Board?
Organization: CompSci Dept., Aston University, U.K.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 12:50:21 GMT

Hasn't ANYONE, ANYWHERE got one of these boards????????????
I have had quite a bit of Email from people wanting info but I have none to
give them!

If you have got one of these boards PLEASE write to me and tell me what it
is like. (See previous post) There are people desparate for this info.

Thanks in advance.
Matt


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From: barrett@quincy.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.announce
Subject: Warning to users of Asimware "FishMarket" CDROM
Date: 10 Nov 92 08:54:23 GMT
Reply-To: barrett@quincy.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc


	As some of you may know, Fish Disk 622 was replaced by 622B
because the disk originally contained a "trojan horse."  (A program
that is intentionally destructive.)  This was the program
"Challenger."  Fish Disk 622B does not have the Challenger program.
This information comes directly from e-mail I received from Fred Fish.

	The CDROM disk "FishMarket" version 1.0 by Asimware
Innovations, sold with the AsimCDFS CDROM filesystem, unfortunately
has the old version of Fish Disk 622 on it.  Thus, it contains the
Challenger program which (reportedly) is a trojan horse.  I have
verified myself that Challenger is on FishMarket 1.0, since I own the
disc.  (However, I have not checked that it is a trojan horse, since I
don't want to risk running it!  But Fred Fish's information above
makes me believe it.)

	If you have this CDROM, do not execute the Challenger program
in the directory FishMarket:Fishies/601-625/Disk_622.  (Of course, you
can't delete it, since it's on a CDROM!)  I have already reported the
problem to Asimware.

	I received the information about FishMarket from Chris of
Hypermedia Concepts.  Hypermedia also sells Fred Fish CDROM discs for
the Amiga, and their product (version 1.5) does not have Challenger on
it.

	(Note: On reading this, you might think that Hypermedia is
trying to bad-mouth a competitor.  However, I do NOT believe this is
the case.  Hypermedia and Asimware do not consider themselves to be
competitors, according to both Chris at Hypermedia and Paul Reeves at
Asimware.  This is because FishMarket is sold ONLY as a "bonus" for
buying AsimCDFS and has never been updated, but Hypermedia's discs are
sold alone and updated 3 times per year.  They are providing different
services.)

	I am not related in any way with Asimware nor Hypermedia
except as a customer.

                                                        Dan

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From: dlarson@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dale Larson - Product Assurance)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: RACTER Anyone?
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:04:34 GMT
Reply-To: dlarson@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dale Larson - Product Assurance)
Organization: Commodore Engineering

In article <1992Nov9.232057.1@us.oracle.com> ccongdon@us.oracle.com writes:
>Does anyone know if RACTER has been ported to the Amiga, or if any attempt has
>been made to create a public-domain RACTER look-alike?   I would be very
>interested in the source or company that sells such a program.

I don't remember who the publisher was, and I don't think I still have a copy,
but I bought RACTER for the Amiga soon after I bought my A1000.  It was
moderately amusing, but maybe I just didn't spend enough time with it.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: csg019@cck.coventry.ac.uk (-~=Zaphod=~-)
Subject: Blitter vs 680x0
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:12:20 GMT

All this OS vs Hardware stuff has got me thinking about the actual speed of
the blitter. I read somewhere that it runs at 28mz. This sounds all well and 
good for speedy graphics, but what with the 68030 and 68040 picking up real
speed, how much long is it going to be, before using the blitter is slower
than using the CPU?

Obviously with lots of small blits, the CPU will be faster, due to the 
need to set the blitter up, but at what point does the blitter become
faster?

Also i read in one of the Abacus book (great book, full of non-relocatable
code and hardware pokes ;) ) that it may be faster to draw lines with the
processor than to draw them with the blitter.

I suppose after a certain point, the blitters DMA would make it faster than
the CPU. How does the new blitter fair (4 x bandwidth?) ?

Does the speed of the new blitter affect old programs not taking them into
account (ie, downwardly compatable).


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: walker@twix.unx.sas.com (Doug Walker)
Subject: Re: Date?????
Originator: walker@twix.unx.sas.com
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:49:32 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


In article <skelly.0e4v@amiganet.chi.il.us>, skelly@amiganet.chi.il.us (Sean Kelly) writes:
|> many days have passed since january 1978????  I bought my SAS C5.10b used
|> without ANY docs so the only reference I have is the 5 books I bought none of

You bought SAS/C used without any docs????

How do you know you haven't contributed to the welfare of a 
software pirate?  Those docs are someplace, you can't buy
the product without them.  Did you get the original disks
and the license agreement with the version that you bought
or not?  Are you registered? 

To answer your question, the library routines provided with
SAS/C do provide ways to get the date in a reasonable format.
They work as documented in the manual, which is intended to
remain with the licensed owner of the product and be used
for this sort of question.

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From: skelly@amiganet.chi.il.us (Sean Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Date?????
Date: 9 Nov 92 09:08:35 GMT
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems


 
 

       This is probably a pretty simple question, but since I have only been
programming on my Amiga in C for about 3 months, it's got me stumped!!  I am
trying to get the current date for a program I am writing, but the only thing I
have found that does that is the DateStamp() thing which, if you ask me, is
absolutely ridiculous!  I mean why should my program have to figure out how
many days have passed since january 1978????  I bought my SAS C5.10b used
without ANY docs so the only reference I have is the 5 books I bought none of
which offer any help on this subject.  Is there some command that I am missing
that will read the date into a string in the normal ("01/01/92") format??  If
not, does someone have a small piece of code that will translate the number of
days since '78 to the current date???  I mean how do you work around leap year
and stuff?  Any help would be greatly appreciated...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: aramsey@ugly.UVic.CA (Aaron  Ramsey)
Subject: Re: ...messed simple c program?..stupid mistake
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 22:20:16 GMT

I can't believe that I posted that to the entire network....  It
was such a stupid mistake. (how do I make an embarassed smiley??)
Sorry for all the wasted bandwidth, and thanks to everybody who
sent the polite mail... 8-) I shoulda got flamed big-time for
that....
                         ****STUPID CODE****
:              for (counter = 0; counter < 5000; counter += 5) {
:                    zoop[counter] = counter;


		  ****WHAT I REALLY WAS TRYING TO DO****

	for( counter = 0; counter < 999; counter++) {
			zoop[counter] = i * 5;
			 


Again, thanks alot to everybody who replied. I appreciate everybody's tact!
8-)

-Aaron
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: ReadPixelArray8() and WritePixelArray8() help requested.
From: brycerw@brandonu.ca
Date: 5 Nov 92 10:55:42 CST
Organization: Brandon University, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

Would someone post (or email me) a working example of ReadPixelArray8() and/or
WritePixelArray8()?  I am attempting to get these calls working to store an
entire copy of a bitmap in fast ram, but for some reason, lose a bit of data
(amounting to an 8 pixel wide strip across the bottom of the array),
and inevitably get an alert of: 80000004.

Also, how can I index into this array once it has been created, to modify it?
(ie. is it a simple 2-d array, or something else?)

--Rob
BRYCERW@BrandonU.CA
From: jamie@cdevil.unx.sas.com (James Cooper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Why does EMITS complain? SCMSG bug?
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:47:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: unx.BxIMyC.JG4
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Originator: jamie@cdevil.unx.sas.com


(My apologies to the Net for this next bit, but every time I tried to
EMail Heinz, the mail bounced...)

In article <heinz.04hz@edohwg.adsp.sub.org>, heinz@edohwg.adsp.sub.org (Heinz Wrobel) writes:
>Two questions concerning SAS/C 6.0:
>
>    1. I tried to register with emits with my old 5.10B serial number (yes,
>       another update ;-). emits didn't "find" it in the database. Should I
>       use the new SAS6-xxxxxx number I got, instead of my old SAS-xxxxxx
>       even though I didn't send in the new registration card?
>       Shouldn't my "old" 5.10B serial-number have been in the database for
>       some time now? I really want to avoid to call book-sales. Phone
>       calls to the US are _expensive_ from germany!

Hello, Heinz.  I have checked the database, and your name is not in the
system.  There could be several reasons for this, though.  First, when
you sent in your registration card, where did you send it?  Who did you
order your upgrades from?

Please respond via EMail, with all three of your serial numbers.  I will
check to see if you really are in the database, perhaps with your name
misspelled, etc.

>    2. I can't get SCMSG to accept the AUTOEDIT option. If I turn it on in
>       the options window and save the options, it's in the ENV:SC/SCMSG
>       file. I quit scmsg, start it again and voila: "NoAutoEdit" is there
>       again! What am I doing wrong here? Is it a known bug?

This is a known bug, and will be patched in our patch release due very
soon (as soon as it passes Beta test and QA).

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and not necessarily those of my employer.
From: fgd3@nifty.UUCP (Fabbian G. Dufoe, III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re:  Amiga Application Framework
Distribution: world
Date: 6 Nov 92 11:12:12 EST
Organization: Fabbian G. Dufoe, III

In article <hemmer.02m9@hemmer.adsp.sub.org> hemmer@hemmer.adsp.sub.org (Franz Hemmer) writes:
>In article <68764@cup.portal.com> Lee_Robert_Willis@cup.portal.com writes:
>> But (and this _is_ something of a criticism) I've never seen any C= document
>> that does tell you the "best" way to structure a full-blown application to
>> avoid these pitfalls. (I'm not a developer, just a hacker.  Perhaps C= has
>> such a thing for developers.)
>
>Yes! David N. Junod has written 55308 bytes about 'Modular Event Processing',
>which presents an excellent scheme for processing events from multiple
>sources! The document is in some older AmigaMail issue, propably in some
>1989 issue.

   The article was published in the January/February 1990 issue of Amiga
Mail.  It begins on page IV-41.

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From: walker@twix.unx.sas.com (Doug Walker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Problems between SASC 5.10 and SASC 6.00
Date: 13 Nov 92 13:48:58 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Originator: walker@twix.unx.sas.com


In article <9501@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, stern+@pitt.edu (Eric G Stern) writes:
|> What should I do?  Possibly something is wrong that SAS should know
|> about, but this is a huge program that I don't really know anything
|> about, so I can't localize the problem as they need to do anything.
|> Did anything really change so that working code breaks between 5.10
|> and 6.00?  I have read the section in the manual about changes between

A few things changed, mostly the names of functions in the library.
This can have strange effects, but probably not bad code.  I suggest
one of three tacks: 1) debug the program (use CPR) and see if you can
figure out what's going wrong.  2) Wait for the 6.1 patch and see if
it fixes the problem.  3) Send a diskette to technical support.

Note that if you send a huge program to be debugged, we will obviously
take longer to find and fix any problems.

|> Also, how compatible is the object format between 5.10 and 6.00?  Can
|> I mix modules in one program in an attempt to determine the failing
|> module?  What about library formats?
|> 
|> 
|> 				Eric Stern

The object format and library format is compatible, but some library
function names have changed.  You can use the DEFINE option on the
SLINK command-line to work around any problems.

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From: mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer)
Subject: Re: LISP - Don't use it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga Yarn 3.4, 1992/08/12 15:49:52
Keywords: 
Summary: 
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:07:19 PST
Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica

In <1992Nov6.220216.2313@sth.frontec.se>, bjst@sth.frontec.se (Bjorn Stenberg) wrote:
> I would, though, ask anyone considering LISP for script language to
> reconsider.

So would I. ARexx is so ubiquitous in the Amiga environment that using
anything else calls for a VERY good reason. Being portable across
multiple platforms is such a reason.

> LISP is VERY quick&easy to interpret, true. However, the language is
> designed with the target of being easily implemented instead of easily
> used...

You don't know what you're talking about. The only thing that makes
LISP-like languages "quick&easy to interpret" is that the syntax is
trivial. Almost everything else about the language makes it HARD to
implement. That's because the language is designed to be elegant and
powerful, as opposed to easy to implement or easy to use.

> I urge developers to use another more user oriented script language like
> ARexx or FPL for any application-internal script programming.

I urge developer to use ARexx. Use LISP where it's appropriate - where
you're doing a large product, and need a powerfull language; where you
expect to be changing things _a lot_, and are going to be using LISP
as a prototyping language; or where you're going to be doing lots of
symbol manipulation; or where you need a macro/extensions language
that is portable across platforms; or when you are doing a CAD system.

Since FPL isn't ARexx, I'd urge developers to avoid it as well.

> PS. No kick at the already implemented LISP works. I -LOVE- GNU Emacs, but I
> know a lot of people who refuse to use it because "the script language is
> so weird". We don't want that with new Amiga applications, do we?

Since GNU emacs isn't an Amiga application, you don't have to worry
about that old one, either.

	<mike
From: chrisg@cbmvax.commodore.com (Chris Green)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: New hardware reference guide?
Date: 13 Nov 92 13:09:15 GMT
Reply-To: chrisg@cbmvax.commodore.com (Chris Green)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Nov13.083504.58455@qut.edu.au> podesta@qut.edu.au writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.125922.1445@sth.frontec.se>, bjst@sth.frontec.se (Bjorn Stenberg) writes:
>> csg019@cch.coventry.ac.uk (-~=Zaphod=~-) writes:
>>> The fact is, what ever you can do in the OS in 4 frames using the OS, a good
>>> demo programmer would probably do in 100 raster lines, and make it work on
>>> any machine.
>> 
>> Yeah, sure.
>> Can you give me the names of 10 advanced demos which all work on the full
>> range of Amigas (A500, A500+, A600, A1000, A1200, A2000, A3000, A4000)?
>> 
>> No, I didn't think so either...
>> 
>> 		-- Bjorn
>
>Come on now!! How many advanced system software, that was written on a
>1.3 A500 with no harddrive will work on a A4000???
	A LOT.

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From: rittle@supra.comm.mot.com (Loren James Rittle)
Subject: Re: What is wrong with this very simple c program?
Organization: Land Mobile Products Sector, Motorola Inc.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:06:49 GMT
Keywords: n

In article <1992Nov10.184406.25907@sol.UVic.CA> aramsey@ugly.UVic.CA (Aaron  Ramsey) writes:

<the following program crashes, why?>
[reformatted so I can stay sane.]

>#include <stdio.h>
>
>main()
>{
>   int zoop[1000];
>   int counter;
>	 
>   printf ("started....");
>   for (counter = 0; counter < 5000; counter += 5)
>     {
>       zoop[counter] = counter;
>     }
>   printf("done....");
>}

Note that you write zoop[] past the end of the array!  zoop[999] is the
highest valid location in zoop[], you write into zoop[4995]. Did you
mean to divide counter by 5 or something before using it to refer into
zoop[]?

My guess is that you are overwriting a stack frame or/and return
address pointer.  The exact thing you are doing would be implementation
dependent - it would depend on the layout of the stack and stack
frames.  BTW, yes, this error would most likely not cause the program
to crash until main() returns.

Regards,
Loren
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From: mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: LISP - Just use it.
Date: 10 Nov 92 04:00:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: contessa.mwm.2l1d
Distribution: world
Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga Yarn 3.4, 1992/08/12 15:49:52

In <1992Nov9.215130.23018@cs.kuleuven.ac.be>, philipm@cs.kuleuven.ac.be (Philip Marivoet) wrote:
> Is there a PD LISP available for the Amiga ? Not that I intend to use it for
> any useful things but it would be handy to test out some programs I have to
> write.

Well, if you want something that's really in the public domain, I
don't think there is one. However, if you want something you can get
for free to play with, there are at least 7 or 8. Many of them can be
found on gatekeeper.pa.dec.com, in /pub/micro/amiga/lisp. There is
also a list of Amiga LISP-like languages in that directory, in
LISP.LIST. A more recent version of that file can be gotten via bms
from contessa.palo-alto.ca.us, as bms:pub/LISP.LIST. It contains
information on where to get the various systems it mentions.

	<mike

P.S. - there _is_ a c.s.a.programmer FAQ, isn't there? Would someone
identify the keeper please?
From: amipb@amipb.gna.org (Philippe Berard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Colours, Datatypes & 68040.library
Date: 8 Nov 92 20:06:17 GMT
Organization: IWANIMA
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Oct29.204253.18943@ugle.unit.no> geirh@Siri.Unit.NO (Geir Haugen) writes:
>
> HDToolBox didn't find a checksum error on my disk, and reported it was OK,
> even though I was unable to write to the disk ("validating"). The error
> occured when one program crashed while another was writing to disk. After
> rebooting (took a long time, as the OS was validating at the same time),
> I got a requester saying "Checksum error in block XXX". Well, I started
> HDToolBox and started it's 'mark out bad blocks' function. After going through
> all blocks it reported everything was OK. I tried desperately some other
> programs, but no success. I had to reformat the disk...
>
> Two days later I visited my local computer store and told them about my
> experience. They said HDToolBox was useless under 3.0, and I should wait
> for DiskSalv 2.10(?) instead.

    You're wrong here. HDToolBox can only find Hard errors on the disk, not
    checksums. You'll need disksalv, fixdisk or QuarterBack Tools for that
    job. Remember that a 'hard' error is a physical damage of the disk, while
    Checksum errors or read/write errors are only logical.

    As far as I know, Dave Haynie should distribute his 2.10 version of
    DiskSalv soon, and it'll support the all-new DOS\4 and DOS\5 formats.

> WHY does CBM release 3.0 without a proper HD-program knowing the new
> 3.0-spesific file systems??

    Here, I must agree... :-(
                                   -- Philippe

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