HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: iscstk@nuscc.nus.sg (Siew Teng Kean)
Subject: ftp'ing directories
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 08:31:07 GMT

I would like to find out if there's a simple way to ftp a directory and files
under a directory, from a remote site accepting anonymous access to my local
site. I know I can use mget to get files at each subdirectory, but if the 
directory has a hierarchy of sub-directories under it, having to constantly 
mkdir on the local site and doing mget * on every subdirectory on the remote
site is cumbersome. I wonder if there is a way to
create a tar file of the directory (and files rooted at this directory) on the
fly and ftp'ing the tar file over to my local site, and unpacking the tar
locally. Thanks.

Teng-Kean
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Teng-Kean Siew                   Dept. of Information Systems & Computer Science
siewtk@@iscs.nus.sg              National University of Singapore
iscstk@nuscc.nus.sg              Lower Kent Ridge Road, Singapore 0511.
From: alizard@tweekco.uucp (A.Lizard)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: list of ftp by mail sites...
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 04:53:03 PDT
Organization: Tweek-Com Systems, Moraga, CA

Is there one? Where can I get it?
A.Lizard
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: king@rtsg.mot.com (Steven King, Software Archaeologist)
Subject: Re: FTP-ing from CICA. HELP!
Reply-To: king@rtsg.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:01:21 GMT

paul@gst.kiev.ua publicly declared:
>   I am working on MS_DOS computer, and want to read some file
>   (description of RTF format) from ftp site ftp.cica.indiana.edu.
>
>   QUESTION:
>   How can I do it without FTP? Does CICA allow e_mail access from
>   Eastern Europe?

I'm reasonably sure that this site allows email to and from anywhere.
Whether you can request the file you want by email is another matter
altogether.

Instead, try using a service like ftpmail.  Ftpmail is a wonderful
service for people at sites (like mine!) that don't have FTP
capabilities.  You send a mail message containing a batch of FTP
commands to the ftpmail server.  The ftpmail server executes those
commands, then mails the results back to you.  If you wanted to get a
file, for example, the ftpmail server would FTP the file for you,
uuencode it (or btoa encode it) and email it back to you.

The ftpmail server's address is "ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com".  Try sending a
mail message to that address with the world "help" as the body.  The
server will send you a file describing how to use it.  A sample batch of
FTP commands is something like this:

    reply <<your address here>>
    connect <<some host>>
    binary
    uuencode
    cd <<some directory>>
    get <<some file>>
    quit

Good luck!

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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: I am a new user....
From: cctr132@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 01:40:02 GMT
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

In article <717617110.F00001@monly.wlink.nl>,
Richard.de.Mos@p21.f112.n100.z60.wlink.nl (Richard de Mos) writes:

> I'am a new user in the usenet cicuit. My FIDO-net boss connected it and I
>am runnig along.
> I am sorry if this area is not for test messages but i like to know if
>everything is running well.

Hi, and welcome to usenet news, etc, etc.

This group is not for tests - tests should be sent to one of the
explicit test groups.  alt.test and/or misc.test are good, as they are
widely distributed (the latter more so) and there are auto-responders
set up to send "I saw your post..." messages to all postings in these
groups, so you get a good idea of the distribution of your posting.

Another good tip for get along well with usenet is to not just jump into
a group and post a message which starts off with "I'm new here and hope
this isn't the wrong place but...".  Nettiquette dictates that it is
"polite" to read a group for a while to find out just what is
appropriate, before posting to it.

Groups like this one are supposed to be places to ask your remaining
"I'm not sure how to/if/whether..." type questions, and as such postings
like yours aren't uncommon.  Believe me - test messages sent to other
discussion groups are (unfortunately) likely to draw hostile and
disturbing responses (known as "flames").

Another tip:  You may not be aware of it as your system might be
"hiding" it from you, but your post seems to only have "line breaks" at
the ends of paragraphs --OR-- you are using a terminal with a wide
display.  Many netters with 80 column terminals and/or software which
does nasty things to posts like yours are likely to flame you if you
keep posting such messages.  It is generally recommended that you set
your news posting software up so the message editor has a right margin
of about 70 characters and that it -sends- line breaks at the end of the
screen lines.

+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 Nick FitzGerald, PC Applications Consultant, CSC, Uni of Canterbury, N.Z.
 n.fitzgerald@csc.canterbury.ac.nz  (64)(3)  364-2337 Voice,  364-2332 FAX
From: denisf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Denis Fafard)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: SOMEONE IN AUSTRALIA
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 15:18:02 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #2, Edmonton, AB, Canada

christian.laferriere@synapse.isis.org (Christian Laferriere) writes:

- from: christian.laferriere@synapse.isis.org
- subj: someone from Australia
- 
-    Hi all,
-          I am trying to find information on communicating with people in
-          Canberra Australia.  I have a friend there and I would like
-          information on where exactly he could connect into internet.
  
    I have been down to Australia and found that all the universities
  there have access to the Net.  Also, Canberra, being the capital with
  all the government offices and such, must have other nodes locally
  that can be accessed through some government department.  If you have
  a local account under your name you can also send him the IP address
  with your account and he can signon under you in your own system. 

Denis Fafard              denisf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Question re test groups
From: cctr132@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 01:22:17 GMT
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

In article <1992Sep24.112344.333@mis.mcw.edu>, jmoulder@mis.mcw.edu writes:

> I understand that alt.test and misc.test (sp?) have large number of
> auto-responders.  Is this true?  How well are they distributed?  Is one better
> than the other?  Is there a mandatory subject line for getting responses from
> these groups?

I last posted messages to alt.test and misc.test about three weeks ago
and received about 20 replies from a about 13 sites, from countries such
as Australia, Switzerland (.si ?), France, US, Canada, Israel and maybe
a couple of others.  Most of the sites responded to my misc.test posting
- fewer to alt.test. (I can't find the exact numbers now but posted them
in this group a couple of weeks ago - I think only about three sites
replied to only the alt.test posting.)

+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 Nick FitzGerald, PC Applications Consultant, CSC, Uni of Canterbury, N.Z.
 n.fitzgerald@csc.canterbury.ac.nz  (64)(3)  364-2337 Voice,  364-2332 FAX
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: stud7b43@bmerh926.uucp (Elaine Bushnik)
Subject: Length of .newsrc
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 19:44:55 GMT


Hi there,

	I have a problem which I'm guessing others have come across too. 
Periodically, when I enter 'rn', I am told that my .newsrc file is too
long, and exits me. To get around this, I delete a substantial number
of lines from the .newsrc file. This is fine, but a day or two later,
I'm asked if I want all these newsgroups back...which I don't...and
if I type my "n"'s too quickly I get a SIGSEV (or something like that)
error. The result is that I painfully have to type 'n' for hundreds
of newsgroups.

	If anyone has any solutions or suggestions, it would be
appreciated.

Thanks,
Mike.

"stud7b43@bnr.ca"
From: rbretton@adonis.ctron.com (Renee Bretton)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Using Kill Files in rrn
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:06:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Cabletron Systems, Rochester NH

Hi.
	Can someone please tell me .... with xrn how in the heck
do you edit the subject line of the header when you post an article?

Thanks!

rbretton@ctron.com
From: csquared@coos.dartmouth.edu (C Squared)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: thanks...my next question is...
Date: 29 Sep 92 00:24:13 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Originator: csquared@coos.dartmouth.edu

In article <92272.154051U58855@uicvm.uic.edu> <U58855@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>Now I have another question that I haven't seen addressed in this group (or in
>fact, any other) - is there a way to post anonymously, without your user id
>number appearing in the post?

Yes.

Next question.

C Squared
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: ted@eslvcr.wimsey.bc.ca (Ted Powell)
Subject: Re: Length of .newsrc
Organization: Entropy Limited, Vancouver Canada
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 08:34:45 GMT

In article <JAAPJL.92Sep30175204@cmb00.larc.nasa.gov> J Lee Jaap <J.L.Jaap@larc.nasa.gov> writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.194455.423@bmers145.bnr.ca> stud7b43@bmerh926.uucp (Elaine Bushnik) writes:
>[...]
>>Periodically, when I enter 'rn', I am told that my .newsrc file is too
>>long, and exits me.
>[...]
>I believe this is a known bug with ancient versions of newsreaders
>(hardcoding a maximum number of lines for .newsrc).  The solution
>is to upgrade.  I don't know where to get the latest version, but
>check the FAQ for news.software.readers.

If it's rn or trn, all that should be necessary is for the person who
maintains it locally to recompile it with a larger value for the max
newsgroups parameter. If I remember correctly, the comments are
sufficiently clear that it's not hard to figure out which #define it is.
Bear in mind that the number of newsgroups (especially in the alt
hierarchy) grows rapidly, so allow a generous amount of room for expansion.
(If there's a newer version that does not have a fixed upper limit, that
would clearly be nice, but setting it up would be more work.)

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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: dougnews@access.digex.com (Doug Humphrey)
Subject: Re: thanks...my next question is...
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:42:32 GMT

In article <BvEnA0.FFK@unix.amherst.edu> twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.025948.3327@access.digex.com> dougnews@access.digex.com (Doug Humphrey) writes:
>
>>... we have users who have public name recognition.
>>If people saw them on the net, and maybe even posting in some
>>politically non-correct newsgroups, the fur would fly! 
>>Anyone can buy an account on our systems, and if they wish 
>>they can remain anonymous to the outside world.
>
>Then why should they care if someone sees their return e-mail address?
>That's what the real issue is here.

Maybe I don't understand your question...  they don't want 
their real name known.  Say (for example, because it isn't 
true) we had a user named George Clinton, or maybe Dan Gore.
Lets say that Dan Gore wants to post to ASB, and doesn't want 
to receive a million email messages a day that say "you are 
a butthead", just because he said some butthead-like things
the day before.  Well, if he is on our system with the username
"butthead" and the realname field is "Roger D. Butthead"
then who is to know that it is really Dan Gore?  He can 
post in peace, without the media watching his every move.

Of course, the media people might well be READING those
ASB posts, but their would die to know that Dan Gore was
writing them ;-)


>-- 
>____ Tim Pierce                / "You are just naive and repressed because
>\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /  penis envy is here and it's now and it's
> \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /  all around you." -- Neal C. Wickham


Doug
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Express Access Online Communications for Washington/Baltimore:  info@digex.com
       Login as "new": Washington 301-220-0462, Baltimore 410-766-1855
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: erodrigu@dcc.uchile.cl (Eduardo Rodriguez)
Subject: Re: How do I uncompress a .zip file?
Originator: erodrigu@tortel
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 14:52:49 GMT
Organization: Universidad de Chile, Depto. de Ciencias de la Computacion


In article <1992Oct1.140725.168@Princeton.EDU>, eva@puhep1.princeton.edu (Eva Zeisky) writes:
> 
> I ftp'd a couple of files from somewhere but they're .zip files. 
>  How do I uncompress them on my Unix machine?
> 

ZIP (.zip)
    This format is most popular on many systems.  Compresses and stores
    multiple files in a single archive.
    PC     - PKZIP/PKUNZIP 1.10, pkz110, unzip 4.10, zip 1.0
    Mac    - UnZip1.02c
    Unix   - unzip 4.10, zip 1.0
    Amiga  - PKAZip 1.01, unzip 4.10
    Atari  - STZip 0.9 beta
    VMS    - unzip 4.10, zip 1.0
    OS/2   - PKZIP/PKUNZIP 1.02, pkz102-2.exe, unzip 4.10, zip 1.0

So, use archie to find unzip 4.10, installit and voila!

edo...

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Dpto de Ciencias de la Computacion  - --- -    ...!uunet!uchdcc!erodrigu
Universidad de Chile   --- - --- - ---   erodrigu%uchdcc@uchcecvm.BITNET
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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S. Morris)
Subject: Re: list of ftp by mail sites...
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:34:01 GMT

alizard@tweekco.uucp (A.Lizard) writes:
: Is there one? Where can I get it?
: A.Lizard
There is a FAQ in news.answers on this.

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From: sridhar@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Too much ftp?
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:06:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: ennews.1992Oct5.170614.4296
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ

f3w@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mark Gellis)
writes on news.newusers.questions:

)A quick question.  I have heard that if too many files are ftp'd from a
)site it can cause problems for that archive.  I suppose these are things
)like increased operations costs and slowing down communications because
)there is so much data traffic, although I admit I don't know and would 
)be interested in finding out.
)
)My question is this.  If this is a problem, I don't want aLl these archives
)with lots of good software getting shut down.  Does anyone know of a good
)guideline for maximum ftp downloads (per person per day) so I can do my
)part to not be a hog?  100 Kb/day?  1 Meg/day?  

There is no maximum limits as such on the Internet as long as you know
that you are not overloading the links. Your system administrator
(since you are on Internet) should be able to run a program called
'traceroute' which will identify what is the path to a specific site.
Since archie is going to give a list of the possible machines
containing a file, a person has to make a decision of retrieving the
file from the _nearest_ ftp site. This is the main intention of
maintaining mirrors. It would do good to the Internet if a person (for
example) in the US were to retrieve dos-specific stuff (which are
uploaded to garbo.uwasa.fi) from wuarchive.wustl.edu instead of getting
it all the way from Finland when the transfer rate is much less and
causes overload of the transatlantic link.

On the specifics of traceroute, try asking your system administrator.
As for the machine getting overloaded, the ftp sites have sufficient
precautions (like shutting out users in excess of 32 etc.) in them.
Please read README files on the ftp sites where the policies of that
specific site is reflected.

The best source of information of course is your system administrator.

)Thanks in advance.
)
)Mark

Sridhar.
From: ted.jensen@spacebbs.com (Ted Jensen) 
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Help needed with mirr
Date: 3 Oct 92 15:16:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193
Reply-To: ted.jensen@spacebbs.com (Ted Jensen) 

In article <1992Oct2.211002.1776#uwasa.fi> Timo Salmi ts@uwasa.fi
writes:

>> something. I have successfully had things "sent" to me by
>> "requesting" them via E-Mail (some form of automated system I
>> don't fully understand yet), but have been unable to do anything
>> with the Garbo Mirror on wuarchive.wustl.edu.  In fact, what I

> Then you should contact the moderator of wuarchive.  You'll find
> the addresses of all the major mirror sites' moderators in the
> list of MsDos FTP sites which you are able to obtain from Garbo
> at least using the mail server.

The problem is that although I have been successful contacting
_other_ sites via E-Mail requests for indices, help, etc., I have
been _unable_ to contact the Garbo mirror since all attempts have
resulted in a message being returned stating, in effect, that the
address is incorrect.  Could you be so kind as to inform me as to
precisely what message to send to what user/address to get me
started?  BTW, since I believe that this will amount to a couple
of lines at most, may I be so bold as to recommend that you
include those lines in your regular postings regarding the mirror
sites.  I am sure I am not the first new user who has had this
problem.

Thanks in advance!  Ted Jensen  Redwood City, Calif.


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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: thanks...my next question is...
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:56:24 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.025948.3327@access.digex.com> dougnews@access.digex.com (Doug Humphrey) writes:

>... we have users who have public name recognition.
>If people saw them on the net, and maybe even posting in some
>politically non-correct newsgroups, the fur would fly! 
>Anyone can buy an account on our systems, and if they wish 
>they can remain anonymous to the outside world.

Then why should they care if someone sees their return e-mail address?
That's what the real issue is here.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "You are just naive and repressed because
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /  penis envy is here and it's now and it's
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /  all around you." -- Neal C. Wickham
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: thanks...my next question is...
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:55:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.214232.9409@access.digex.com> dougnews@access.digex.com (Doug Humphrey) writes:
>In article <BvEnA0.FFK@unix.amherst.edu> twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep30.025948.3327@access.digex.com> dougnews@access.digex.com (Doug Humphrey) writes:
>>
>>>... we have users who have public name recognition.
>>>If people saw them on the net, and maybe even posting in some
>>>politically non-correct newsgroups, the fur would fly! 
>>>Anyone can buy an account on our systems, and if they wish 
>>>they can remain anonymous to the outside world.
>>
>>Then why should they care if someone sees their return e-mail address?
>>That's what the real issue is here.
>
>Maybe I don't understand your question...  they don't want 
>their real name known.

Exactly my point.

E-mail address != real name (except in some cases. Certainly not for
your system).

The original question appeared to be, how can one get *true*
anonymity?  How can you post a message without even your e-mail
address appearing at the top of your post?  Trey's question, and mine,
was "Why would you want to?"  You responded that if you're a public
figure, you don't want to be inundated with mail.  Of course, at
Express Access, you avoid that problem by not associating the user's
real name with his login name.

So the whole point is kind of moot.  Let's talk about something
interesting, like "how do you get a signature?"

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "You are just naive and repressed because
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /  penis envy is here and it's now and it's
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /  all around you." -- Neal C. Wickham
From: hartman@ulogic.UUCP (Richard M. Hartman)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: thanks...my next question is...
Date: 1 Oct 92 17:37:47 GMT
Organization: negligable

Then I do not understand the intent of your original question asking
how to go about posting anonymously.  You seem to have it in the bag.

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From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: .arc
Date: 27 Sep 92 15:22:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: math.NUE7EWM
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Originator: guckes@medusa

tgh3_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Timothy Gerald Harrnacker) writes:

>How do I use a file that has the suffix .arc?

Theory:
Files that end in ".arc" usually are "ARChives".
Other extensions of archives are e.g. "zip", "zoo", "arj", lzh".
There is usually a program, called "archiver" that creates these archives.
It usually can extract files from these archives, too.
There are also seperate programs that do this, usually caled
"unarchivers" or "extractors".

Real Life: What you need is the unarchiver to your "arc" file.
I think it is called "pkxarc".

For really good additional info look into "news.answers"
or Timo Salmis FAQ Lists.
From: bm560@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Thomas D. Salyers)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: MST3K newsgroup?
Date: 28 Sep 1992 13:52:56 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


    I heard recently that there was a newsgroup devoted to 
Mystery Science Theater 3000, but I can't seem to find it. Can
anyone tell me what its name is?

-- 
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Denver, CO      Made glorious SimEarth by this son of Zork."
IRCnick: Aqualung              --from _Richard v3.0_