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From: rownd@moby.micro.umn.edu (Brooks Kerry Rownd)
Subject: Re: Final AP Poll
Organization: University of Minnesota CIS
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:10:37 GMT

>>>	  13   Colorado             9-2-1      818
>>>	  14   Nebraska             9-3-0      771
>>How in Aunt Fannie's Corset can Nebraska be ranked lower than Colordo?
>>Nebraska thoroughly beat Colorado in the regular season and both lost
>>in bowl games.  In addition, there's the Buffs tie to Oklahoma.
>
>remember Iowa State? They should be ranked higher than Nebraska.
Remember Oklahoma?  When two teams have played head-to-head, here's
what IMO should be considered:
1) The winner
2) Other losses
3) Schedule strength
In that order.  In this case all of these things must be considered.
This one could swing either way and I can't see anyone
saying there is a CORRECT choice for the higher ranking.  It makes for 
a very complicated equation:
1)Colorado 4-0 in easier non-conf schedule
2)Nebraska 3-1 in harder non-conf schedule
3)Nebraska thrashes (excuse me...) Colorado
4)Nebraska thrashes (again...) Kansas
5)Colorado edges Kansas and ties Oklahoma
6)Iowa State stuffs (for real) Nebraska
7)Nebraska outrun(passed) by stellar Florida State 
8)Colorado even with very good Syracuse team
This can be interpreted many ways, and I don't see that Aunt Fannie's 
Corset would make a difference.  Everyone should include an IMHO
with their decision on this one.  I will.
>
>>First there was the perennial bias against the Huskers in the electronic
>>media starting with ABC and Keith Jackson, now it's the voters.  I would
>>have reversed the positions and possibly put the Huskers at #11.
>
>Stanford is ranked higher that Washington eventhough they lost badly
>to Washington. FSU is above Miami. So your argument doesn't count...
>besides, Nebraska was thoroughly beaten by FSU whereas CU was beaten by
>the officials...
Colorado was beaten by whatever caused 5 points in kicks to miss - sand, 
new kicker, whatever.  I remember the officials tooketh away and promptly
gaveth back in this one - UNWISE if you ask me, but luckily evening it out.
Bad calls by the officials is a part of the game - on all 5 downs!  8^)
You just have to live with it and they just have to learn and try harder.
>
>>Dave Niebuhr      Internet: niebuhr@bnl.gov / Bitnet: niebuhr@bnl
>Njan
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bkrrrrr                    /\     || 2-Miami 6-Syrac 10-Stan 14-Color 18-WshSt
brooks@ast1.spa.umn.edu __/__\__  || 3-FlaSt 7-Michi 11-Wash 15-OhioS 19-NCStU
(128.101.221.1)          /    \   || 4-NotrD 8-UFlor 12-Nebr 16-Missi 20-NCaro
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From: kschudt@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Karl C Schudt)
Subject: Re: Why Bama won the Sugar Bowl
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:58:04 GMT

Congrats to Bama!!!!!!

Remember Miami saying "One-dimensional teams don't beat us"?

They forgot that this year, Miami was one-dimensional. All pass, no run.
Now, if Miami had had an offense as diverse and productive as, say,
Notre Dame's, or Michigan's, or even Tennessee's, then maybe they would have 
won :)

I've got an idea, lets have ND and FSU play next weekend, then the winner gets 
alabama. That would be some great football :)

Karl Schudt
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From: wlmg3055@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (William L. Myers)
Subject: Re: Ohio St (national merit scholars) Wussconsin
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Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 00:53:02 GMT


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jcitro3@cwis.unomaha.edu (Joe Citro III)
Subject: Big 8 Schedule Request
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 09:22:29 GMT

Does anyone out there have the 93 schedules for any of the Big 8 Teams?



                                Many Thanks In Advance,
                                
                                Joe Citro III
                                
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From: tjbowman@emt.b17c.ingr.com (Tony Bowman)
Subject: Rumors
Reply-To: tjbowman@emt.b17c.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:35:24 GMT

	I have heard a few things that I am disturbed about.  All kidding
	razzin' and "trash talk" aside.  Someone said that Erikson's son
	(14 y/o) was beat up?  I hope this was just rumor.  That would
	be a shame.  This is, afterall, just a game.  Some have said they
	saw a LOT of fights and such started presumably by Bama faithful.
	I, speaking for the majority of Bama fans I hope, would not condone
	(sp) this kind of crap.  We talk alot when we win and such but
	violence is something different.  If you are a 'cane fan, or a 
	fan of anyone else, that has been physically abused over an Alabama
	game, I am sorry.  Verbal abuse is another issue.  Nobody has ever
	died due to trash talk.  Just keep in mind, MY post are all in fun
	and just payback.  I won't be coming by and beating up your family
	or anything. :^)

	Roll Tide !!
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From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Trying to discredit Alabama
Date: 5 Jan 93 16:58:31 GMT
	<aggie-050193104712@wealthy.ocean.fsu.edu>
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.college
Organization: American Math. Society

In article <aggie-050193104712@wealthy.ocean.fsu.edu> aggie@wealthy.ocean.fsu.edu (I R A Aggie) writes:
   >In article <79116@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gt6249c@prism.gatech.EDU (Bin Chen)
   >wrote:

   >> But can you blame them?  After almost a month of posts from Miami
   >> fans saying how they were going to blow us out, shred our defense,
   >> stuff our offense, etc.  Turnabout is fair play.  a little trash 
   >> talk isn't going to hurt anyone.

   >I see. I thought the Bama posters would have more *class* than the
   >Miami posters and not talk trash. I must have been mistaken. From
   >here, I can't tell the difference between the two anymore. 

   >A shame.

   >James

I agree.  The trash talk from the 'Bama fans doesn't make them look
too good.  Yes, they had to endure the same from the 'Canes fans, but
now they've dragged themselves down to same level.  Trash talk is
trash talk, regardless of how deserving the recipent is.

A true shame.  I was hoping for better.  And I was *so* glad that
'Bama whupped Miami, too.  This takes a little shine off the victory.



-Alan Harder                
 Go Blue!                   

 My opinions are not the opinions of the American Mathematical Society.
 Did you think they were?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: ddavidson@cbacc.cba.uga.edu (Dennis Davidson)
Subject: team rankings
Organization: Terry College of Business, University of Georgia
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:31:14 GMT

Would someone post the bowl game teams -the winning teams and rankings also 
the losting teams and rankings.  The final rankings is what I need.  thank 
you in advance.
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From: aggie@wealthy.ocean.fsu.edu (I R A Aggie)
Subject: Re: Miami strategy?
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.college
Organization: An Ol Ag surrounded by a bunch of unfriendly Seminoles
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 03:28:05 GMT

In article <1iid7nINNke4@haydn.crhc.uiuc.edu>, ttsai@crhc.uiuc.edu (Timothy
Tsai) wrote:

> I thought the rule was that if the crowd is warned three times officially
> through the PA system, then timeouts are taken away, after which yards are
> penalized.

That may not have worked. Initially, my friend and I thought the game
wasn't being called over the PA. It wasn't until later in the game,
and the fans had quited down that we realized that they *were* calling
the game, but we couldn't hear them!

James
From: wessir@shelley.u.washington.edu (bill the cat)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: We can take it (was Re: Pl explain the Bama penalty in Sugar Bowl)
Date: 5 Jan 1993 20:43:15 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: shelley.u.washington.edu

In article <1993Jan5.173027.19782@Princeton.EDU> frank@wanda.princeton.edu (Frank Bilotti) writes:
>
>Oh Yeah, can you say HEISMAN boys and girls?  Cry all you want, we got
>it!!  :p  :)
Has anyone noticed that a p looks like a trumpet sideways?
Is that what it's supposed to be?  Are you blowing your own horn?
HEISMAN, sure we can say it but everybody laughs when we do so I wouldn't brag
about that.  And that isn't supposed to be a "we" trophy anyway.
wessir
From: valdis@spica.usc.edu (Valdis Kalejs)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: A PAC-10 fan in depression
Date: 4 Jan 93 15:23:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: spica.usc.edu

In article <DOEL.93Jan4091325@bbq.bae.bellcore.com> doel@bae.bellcore.com (Michael Doel) writes:
>
>In article <1i5dnbINNln8@mizar.usc.edu> pcaster@mizar.usc.edu (Dodger) writes:
>
>> Alumni are upset that Smith has turned off a large number of
>> potential stars.  Washington has more players from California
>> than USC.  Know why?
>
>I don't know.  Maybe it's because nobody has been struck by stray bullets
>while on a recruiting trip to Washington.  Blame Larry Smith all you want,
>but being located in the heart of south central Los Angeles (i.e. where the
>riots originated) has to make it difficult to recruit people who didn't grow
>up in that atmosphere.
>
I see your point, but the area has been this way for quite some time, and SC
(under diffrent coaching staffs) have had little or no problem recruiting here.
Actually inrollment has actually has increased since the riots and the Univer-
sity of Washington did a independent study on crime at area colleges and 
Universities, and stated that there has been more crime at other Universities
(for instance UCLA) than at USC. Might seem hard to belive for some but the
USC security force is actually the third largest police force in the LA area.

Fight On,
Valdis
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From: scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn)
Subject: Re: Michigan's Bowl Record  (Was  Miami's Humiliation)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:15:34 GMT

In article <6JAN199312202160@venus.lerc.nasa.gov> smorris@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (
Ron Morris ) writes:
>Alan Harder writes....
>>Then you must not have seen Michigan play any bowl games during the
>>last 15 years.  They have the sorriest excuse for a bowl record ever.
>
> [...]
>
>The general perception
>that Michigan is a lousy bowl team is just flat wrong.  It's bad enough
>that we have to put up with this stuff from the Michigan haters, but
>now this guy who claims to be a Michigan fan is pulling it.  Do me a
>favor, pal.  Go root for the greenies.

     No, no, Alan! Root for the Buckeyes! You can crack on the team and talk 
about how lousy we play in bowls and -- here's the best part -- *everyone will 
think you're being a great fan!* And for bonus points, **insult the coach!**
     I have to admit that I've been a typical griping OSU fan for the last 
three years. But I'm in recovery now and I'm making progress. [If I were a 
guest on Donahue, this is where the applause would kick in. :-)]

                                        Steve
|
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    Building of the new .sig in progress. Please be patient.
      Sorry for the inconvenience.
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From: niebuhr@bnlux1.bnl.gov (david niebuhr)
Subject: Miami's Humiliation (or How not to Play Football)
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:42:54 GMT

Even though Nebraska lost in the Orange Bowl :-(, I would make a guess that
Tommy Frazier, a true Freshman, would have outplayed Gino What's-his-name
from Miami.

I didn't catch much of the Sugar Bowl, but from what I saw was a bunch of
high school players attempting to play on the college level (OK, I'll give
Miami a break - Division 3).

The "We Backs" would have made mincemeat of the Hurricane defense also.

I've offered my congratulations before to the Crimson Tide and their fans
and I'm going to do it again.  The Bear would be proud of you.

Dave

-- 
Dave Niebuhr      Internet: niebuhr@bnl.gov / Bitnet: niebuhr@bnl
Brookhaven National Laboratory Upton, NY 11973  (516)-282-3093
From: rsumner@ho09.eng.ua.edu (Richard J. Sumner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Quit pickin' on the poor 'Canes
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:04:56 GMT
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa

In article <1993Jan11.171145.28814@newstand.syr.edu> demarsee@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darryl E. Marsee) writes:
>In article <aggie-050193143627@wealthy.ocean.fsu.edu> aggie@wealthy.ocean.fsu.edu (I R A Aggie) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan5.173554.20420@Princeton.EDU>, Frank Bilotti
>><frank@wanda.princeton.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Bring on the bashing, but as touchdown Jesus said "let he who is without
>>> loss cast the first flame"
>>
>>Hmmmm...and that's Bama.
>
>And also Michigan ...

Ok, lets amend that to "let he who is without non-wins (especally 3 of them)
cast the first flame."   d;-)

ROLL TIDE
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado)
Subject: Re: Miami's Humiliation (or How not to Play Football)
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 04:35:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.010118.13655@news2.cis.umn.edu> rownd@moby.micro.umn.edu (Brooks Kerry Rownd) writes:
>>>Even though Nebraska lost in the Orange Bowl :-(, I would make a guess that
>>>Tommy Frazier, a true Freshman, would have outplayed Gino What's-his-name
>>>from Miami.
>>>
>>>I didn't catch much of the Sugar Bowl, but from what I saw was a bunch of
>>>high school players attempting to play on the college level (OK, I'll give
>>>Miami a break - Division 3).
>>>
>>>The "We Backs" would have made mincemeat of the Hurricane defense also.
>>
>>Oh this is rich. nebraska couldn't beat their meat let alone the
>>Hurricanes. They are by far the worst damn bowl team I've ever seen.
>>Any team in the nation would breath a sigh of relief upon learning that
>>nebahoma will be their opponent in a bowl game. FSU's domination of
>>your so called team was nearly as complete as Alabama's domination of the
>>Canes. You diminish the bama victory with your fantasy.
>>
>>Tony (Just say 'Noles) Travaglini
>>tech@cs.ucf.edu
>
>Well, so long as top 5 teams like Florida State keep drawing Nebraska in 
>bowl games instead of facing top-5 competition, I guess they will be 

FSU was more or less forced to go to the OB against Nebraska as a result of
the Cotton Bowl's descision to take ND. FSU wanted to play A&M, but we took
what we got. But you have to admit, Nebraska _was_ dominated. If Bowden wasn't
such a nice guy...calling off the dogs as he did (running game for all of the
second half)...the score would have been much, much worse.

>breathing a "sigh of relief".  But in case you missed the boat, Nebraska
>was 3-2 against bowl teams this year.  Maybe some Floridafornia snots like
>you think the rest of the country is like the void between your ears, 
>but I assure you we are for real.  Next season Nebraska will 
>undoubtedly pad the post-season schedule and ego of yet another top-5 team
>and we'll have to listen to another ass of your caliber treat us like shit, 
>but you can blow all the hot air you want until then 'cause it just sounds
>stupid from up here.  8^P
>
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>Brooks Kerry Rownd         \/     || 1-'Bama 5-Georg 9-TexAM 13-Tenne 17-Hawii
>bkrrrrr                    /\     || 2-Miami 6-Syrac 10-Stan 14-Color 18-WshSt
>brooks@ast1.spa.umn.edu __/__\__  || 3-FlaSt 7-Michi 11-Wash 15-OhioS 19-NCStU
>(128.101.221.1)          /    \   || 4-NotrD 8-UFlor 12-Nebr 16-Missi 20-NCaro
>====-----=-----=-----=-----=-----====-----=-----==-----=-----==-----=-----


Kevin

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: aggie@wealthy.ocean.fsu.edu (I R A Aggie)
Subject: Re: CFPOOL: Final results
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.college
Organization: An Ol Ag surrounded by a bunch of unfriendly Seminoles
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 23:23:11 GMT

In article <79163@hydra.gatech.EDU>, mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
wrote:
> 
> stassen@alc.com (Chris Stassen) wrote:
> }
> }| 1246.85 | 11/18  61% | 04-02-05 |  8958.75 | 139/233  59% | Chris Stassen   |
> }| 1105.22 | 11/18  61% | 03-04-04 |  8226.70 | 132/215  61% | Diana Stassen   |
> 
> So, Mr. Stassen, when did you start beating your wife?    ;-)

It's worse than that, Mark, in the year-to-date standings we see:

| 28 |  7940.28 | Chris Stassen        |
| 46 |  7674.07 | Diana Stassen        |

It looks like it will be a long, long year for Mr. Stassen. :)

James
From: mrm70@diag.amdahl.com (Mike McAllister)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Final AP Poll
Date: 8 Jan 93 01:14:57 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1993Jan7.185141.8139@bnlux1.bnl.gov>, niebuhr@bnlux1.bnl.gov (david niebuhr) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan7.125048.6704@dbsun.uucp> harbison@dbsun.uucp (harbison) writes:
|>... 
|> How in Aunt Fannie's Corset can Nebraska be ranked lower than Colordo?
|> Nebraska thoroughly beat Colorado in the regular season and both lost
|> in bowl games.  In addition, there's the Buffs tie to Oklahoma.
|> 
|> First there was the perennial bias against the Huskers in the electronic
|> media starting with ABC and Keith Jackson, now it's the voters.  I would
|> have reversed the positions and possibly put the Huskers at #11.

Before some NU fan goes off half-cocked and makes generalizing statements
about all CU fans based on a couple CU fans response to this, I will go on
record as agreeing with you. I think NU should be ranked ahead of CU.
However, I'm not surprised they are so close, considering NU's inconsistency
(losing to ISU). But it seems obvious that NU is the better team this year.

|> -- 
|> Dave Niebuhr      Internet: niebuhr@bnl.gov / Bitnet: niebuhr@bnl
|> Brookhaven National Laboratory Upton, NY 11973  (516)-282-3093

Watch out for flying Buffaloes in '93!

Peace and Love
Mike
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: tad@tad.b30.ingr.com (Tad W Stephens)
Subject: Re: Sugar Bowl Question
Reply-To: tad@tad.b30.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:26:27 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.193228.1929@ra.msstate.edu>, wagnonb@ur.msstate.edu writes:
|> I was curious as to how many SEC fans such as myself pulled
|> for Miami to beat Alabama in the Sugar Bowl?  Why?  Because
|> if you've every been to a game with Alabama fans, you would
|> know they act in person just like the ones woofing about
|> this year's Sugar Bowl win.
|> 
|> Any other SEC fans who turned Miami fans for a day?
|> 
|> Bill


As a Tennessee fan I, as much as I hate to admit it, mildly pulled for the tide.
It was nice to see some of the national respect return to the SEC, toughest 
conference year after year (the season is over so I can boast :)).  

Nevertheless, I knew when bama won what kind of razzing the Canes fans would 
take.  From experience (lost seven in a row to the evil horde), bama fans won't 
say much before the game but if they win, LOOK OUT!  They'll come out of the 
woodwork and, before you know it you'll be knee deep in roll tiders.  After 
the boasting heard from the Miami faithful before the Sugar Bowl I knew if 
bama won it would be especially tough for the orange and green.


As a side note, any truth to the rumor a couple of roll tiders smacked around
Dennis Erickson's 10 year old son in an elevator after the game?


Tad "Let the Fulmer era begin!  We want bama!" Stephens

Intergraph Corporation
Huntsville, Alabama
tad@tad.b30.ingr.com
From: wessir@shelley.u.washington.edu (bill the cat)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Sugar Bowl Thoughts
Date: 5 Jan 1993 21:03:21 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: shelley.u.washington.edu


>Likewise, UF had some success (though not enough) stacking against the
>run and daring Barker to throw. So why didn't Miami, with their all-world
>secondary try it?
poor coaching.  erickson kinda looks like herb tarleck with that chain.  haha
>
>And finally: Hey Jason, need an extra copy of that big color photo that
>was on the front page of the Sun-Sentinel? You know, the one with a
>dejected-looking Gino sitting beside fastest-receiver-in-the-world Lamar,
>who has his head in his hands covered by a towel? If you want one for home
>and one for work, let me and I'll give you mine. Maybe some kind soul with a
>scanner would even scan it for you so you can use it as a background screen.
Oh, please please PLEASE!!  Somebody scan that please!  I would just LOVE
to see that!

wessir

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: keiner@kb.phy.wfu.edu (Louis E. Keiner)
Subject: Wake Forest Wins!
Reply-To: keiner@kb.phy.wfu.edu
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:55:21 GMT

Wow.....Halfway through the game I'm settling into my "Damn, here we
go again" mindset that is familiar to all Wake Forest fans, and they
actually get their act together and pull it out! I'm savoring this
season because there probably won't be another like it in my lifetime.
Congratulations to the Wake team and to Coach Dooley on the win and an
entry into the top 25 of all the polls........

Lou



Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado)
Subject: Re: FSU and ND next year...
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 04:09:06 GMT

In article <aggie-050193105336@wealthy.ocean.fsu.edu> aggie@wealthy.ocean.fsu.edu (I R A Aggie) writes:
>In article <76101@apple.apple.COM>, mjohnson@Apple.COM (Mark B. Johnson)
>wrote:
>
>> Well the teams will be different and it won't be next weekend, but ND and FSU
>> start an annual series next year, so that is something to which one can look
>> forward--bound to be even more fun and good football than the ND/Miami series.
>
>Nov 13, in South Bend. That could be a "chilling" experience for 
>the Noles. Especially the fans... 

I think this game is gonna be kinda fun to watch. ND will be without its big
running punch with Mirer and Brooks gone (even worse if Bettis goes) and FSU
will be without its run stopping maching Marvin Jones. I am loking forward
to the game.

>
>James

Kevin

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com (David Head)
Subject: Re: Marquette Smith
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:31:40 GMT
Reply-To: dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com
Organization: Harris Corporation, Government Aerospace Systems Division

In article 3CL@news.cso.uiuc.edu, sms35849@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott M. Stortzum) writes:
>If I remember correctly, wasn't this guy one of the most heavily recruited
>running backs in Florida a couple of years ago?  Whatever happened to him?
>
>Thanks,
>Scott
>


Still at Florida State if I recall, but was redshirted this past year due to
an overabundance of talent at running back.

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