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From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: GNU Hello (was Re: What is what in the GNUniverse?)
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
Distribution: gnu
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:14:17 GMT

HH> == Harald Hanche-Olsen <hanche@ams.sunysb.edu>

 HH> hello (hello!? did someone write "Hello world" in 105591 bytes
 HH> (compressed)?  I hope not!)

Yes, they did.  From tar -tvf:
rwxrwxrwx9755/1      0 Sep 16 20:26 1992 hello-1.1/
rw-rw-rw-9755/1   2503 Sep 16 19:30 1992 hello-1.1/hello.c
rw-rw-rw-9755/1     43 Sep 16 20:20 1992 hello-1.1/version.c
rw-rw-rw-9080/11  19188 Aug 24 13:00 1992 hello-1.1/getopt.c
rw-rw-rw-5281/1   3427 Aug 18 17:33 1992 hello-1.1/getopt1.c
rw-rw-rw-5919/1   5327 Jul 25 17:40 1992 hello-1.1/alloca.c
rw-rw-rw-9080/11   4329 Sep 11 10:41 1992 hello-1.1/getopt.h
rw-rw-rw-9080/11  17982 Jun  2 16:03 1991 hello-1.1/COPYING
rw-rw-rw-9755/1   3322 Sep 16 20:25 1992 hello-1.1/ChangeLog
rw-rw-rw-9755/1   1182 Sep 16 19:37 1992 hello-1.1/NEWS
rw-rw-rw-9755/1   2657 Sep 16 20:24 1992 hello-1.1/Makefile.in
r--r--r--9755/1    790 Sep 16 20:22 1992 hello-1.1/README
rw-rw-rw-9080/11   5474 Sep  1 17:41 1992 hello-1.1/INSTALL
rw-rw-rw-9755/1   5743 Jul  1 03:27 1992 hello-1.1/hello.texi
rw-rw-rw-5281/11  18335 Jul  6 20:09 1992 hello-1.1/gpl.texinfo
rwxrwxrwx9080/1   8679 Sep 14 21:23 1992 hello-1.1/configure
rw-r--r--9080/11    169 Jul 14 02:40 1992 hello-1.1/configure.in
r--r--r--5200/11 115634 Sep  2 19:30 1992 hello-1.1/texinfo.tex
rw-rw-rw-9080/11  23972 Jul  1 03:27 1992 hello-1.1/hello.info
rw-rw-rw-9080/11     13 Jun 26 01:11 1992 hello-1.1/testdata
rw-rw-rw-9755/1    339 Sep 16 20:26 1992 hello-1.1/TAGS

They were apparently REAL bored that weekend :)
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From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Apple/Novell merger discussed 
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 17:32:57 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson) writes:
> In article <suLVVB13w165w@mantis.co.uk> mathew writes:
>    That would be interesting.  We'd get to see whether the FSF would stick to
>    their professed principles and boycott DOS machines.
> 
> Being ridiculous as usual, eh?  DOS machines do more than run DOS.
> They also run Linux very well.

Sure, you can have multiple partitions.  But I doubt many people will be keen
to transfer their files and re-boot in order to run GAWK.

>                             In fact, Linux runs a LOT faster on a
> DOS machine than DOS does.  Something about using it like a 32-bit
> machine instead of an 8-bit machine.

That's as maybe.  Some people *have to* run DOS, because the software they
want isn't available for Linux.  They don't want to choose between GNU utils
and their favourite software; they want to have both.


mathew
From: gt@prosun.first.gmd.de (Gerd Truschinski)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Why IBM used 8088 (Was something about Alpha linux/gnu/....)
Date: 11 Dec 92 17:51:26 GMT
Organization: GMD Berlin (FIRST)

In article <1g53rgINNcd7@roche.csl.sri.com>, gilham@csl.sri.com (Fred Gilham) writes:
|> 
|> The way I understand it, IBM used the 8088 because Intel lowered the
|> price very heavily (they were sampling 8088s for $5), and because
|> there was a 8080-to-8086 assembly language translator available.  They
|> were able to keep the component price down and to get a fair amount of
|> software running on the new box right away.
|> 
|> Strictly marketing -- in other words, strictly driven by what IBM
|> thought people would buy.  Like it or not, IBM was right.
|> 

Sometime ago there was an articel in the 'BYTE' about the first IBM-PC.
The hardware developer said, that they have taken the 8088 because they
had just finished a 8085 project and know this architecture very well.
/gT/

|> -Fred
From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Apple/Novell merger discussed 
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 17:22:12 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

In article <suLVVB13w165w@mantis.co.uk> mathew writes:

   bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig) writes:
   > San Jose Mercury News via First!: Executives of Apple Computer Inc.
   > and Novell Inc. have engaged in top-level discussions in recent weeks
   > about the possibility of rewriting the rules of the computing world by
   > merging their two companies into an $8 billion hardware-software
   > giant.

   That would be interesting.  We'd get to see whether the FSF would stick to
   their professed principles and boycott DOS machines.

Being ridiculous as usual, eh?  DOS machines do more than run DOS.
They also run Linux very well.  In fact, Linux runs a LOT faster on a
DOS machine than DOS does.  Something about using it like a 32-bit
machine instead of an 8-bit machine.

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com> What canst *thou* say?
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Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
From: jaye@pvi.com (J.bird)
Subject: Has anyone built gmake for Solaris?
Organization: Precision Visuals, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:48:06 GMT


I'm trying to build gmake (version 3.6 I believe) for the Solaris 2.x platform.
Has anyone had any luck with this?  

Thanks for any info,
Jaye

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From: robg@wsinti03.info.win.tue.nl (Rob Gerth)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Adding Dutch wordlist to ispell???
Keywords: ispell nispell
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:30:31 GMT
Reply-To: robg@info.win.tue.nl
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands

In article <4848@svin09.info.win.tue.nl> devet@win.tue.nl (Arjan de Vet) writes:
>
>Yes. There is a dutch.aff file made by me. Have a look at:
>
>	ftp.win.tue.nl:/pub/textproc/ispell/*
>
>Arjan

Yes, BUT the affix file needs some tuning. nispell gives a.o.:

	word		nispell suggestion

	bloeiende	0: bloeien-de	1: bloeien de
	equivalenties	0: equivalentie
	intensievere	0: intensieve-re  1: intensiever  2: intensieve re
	opener		0: open-er  1: openen  2: open er
	Eindhoven	0: Eind-hoven  1: Eind hoven
	
Rob

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Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
From: tzs@carson.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith)
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Alpha release Linux/GNU/X unix clone on CDROM for PCs
Organization: University of Washington School of Law, Class of '95
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 05:49:03 GMT

friedman@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Noah Friedman) writes:
>We waited several years for Mach to become free because it seemed like the
>best system to use; several alternatives (such as Trix and Sprite) were
>considered, but none of them offered the functionality we wanted, and
>writing a microkernel ourselves would have been foolish.  A lot of thought
>and experience which we simply lack have gone into the development of Mach.

(1) At one time, Stallman and the rest of the people involved in FSF didn't
have experience with writing compilers or editors.  That didn't stop them
from writing gcc and Emacs.  Why let inexperience in microkernels stop
you?

(2) Kernels (micro or monolitic) are easier to write than C compilers.
Go for it!

(3) Kernels are a lot of fun.  You are missing out on a lot of enjoyment
by not writing your own.  The most fun I've had programming was when I
was either throwing out someone elses process management, memory management,
and interrupt code to replace it with something of my own, or when I was
writing multitasking kernels for embedded systems.

--Tim Smith
From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Dylan supported by GNU in future ?
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 16:02:58 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer) writes:
> mathew don't you have some public domain software you should be writing to
> free us from the tyranny of GNU instead of picking fights on
> gnu.misc.discuss?

Yes, but I have rent to pay.


mathew
From: johnm@cory.Berkeley.EDU (John D. Mitchell)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Dylan supported by GNU in future ?
Date: 15 Dec 92 04:29:30 GMT
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley

In article <FISCHER.92Dec15014923@thor.iesd.auc.dk> fischer@iesd.auc.dk
(Lars Peter Fischer) writes:
>>>>>> "Martin" == Martin Cracauer (cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de)
>Martin> I would like to know, if FSF will release a 'Dylan' implementation.
>Martin> (Dylan is a language like CLOS, invented by Apple).
[...]
>Martin> I know, FSF don't like Apple, but isn't dylan 'free enough' to be
>Martin> supported ? 
>
>Well, write a GNU Dylan inetrpreter/compiler/system and donate it to
>the FSF and things will look much more promising.

I believe that Dylan is trademarked by Apple.  That's why the free
implementation of a language based on the Dylan Language Manual is called
"Thomas" (or somesuch).  Dylan most certainly *not* a free language.  I
recall some mention of certification of language implementations by Apple.
The Dylan Language Manual ain't all that great and I don't find anything in
the language that makes it worth locking myself to Apple and if you want a
free version, somebody has already done it so why spend the time and effort?

I, for one, believe that Dylan is mostly just a tool for Apple to get
people locked into their universe by promising all sorts of
performance/abilities/etc. on hardware that has yet to be shown (Newton)
which has already been majorly backpeddled on because Apple knows they
can't deliver.  Sculley has made all sorts of pronoucements about the
future of the palmtop/PDA/PIM/whatever and he has neither the hardware
(though I believe they have cut the specs again to try and get the cost
down) nor the software (a Dylan based OS, I believe, which certainly is not
proven) to fulfill those big words so he has stated that the market will
now arrive (surpise :-) at about the same projected dates for a real,
cheap, version of Newton (which, of course, gives the OS/Dylan people time
to gain converts and make the thing actually work efficiently, etc.).

Sorry for the tangent,
			John

P.S.	I speak for myself.
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.sys.sgi
From: SEB1525@MVS.draper.com (Steve Bacher)
Subject: Re: makefile for gnu make on SGI
Organization: Draper Laboratory
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:11:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.000738.12900@microunity.com>,
brendan@microunity.com (Brendan Eich) writes:

>I just got GNU make 3.62 running on an Indigo R4000, and I didn't
>define sparc (which sounds like a mistake).  Here are the relevant
>Makefile lines:

[...]

># If your system doesn't have alloca, or the one provided is bad,
># get it from the Emacs distribution and define these.
># [ I used gcc-2.2's alloca.c.  /be ]
>ALLOCA = alloca.o
>ALLOCASRC = alloca.c

Irix Release 4.0.1 System V (which is where I did the build)
appears to have __builtin_alloca, as shown in /usr/include/alloca.h,
which is why I used -Dsparc (which doesn't trigger anything else in
this particular make).  Is this OK to use, or do I still need to get
the GNU alloca?

>I did change make.h to define SIGHANDLER as a pointer-to-void-function,
>not pointer-to-int, #ifndef __STDC__:
>
>#define SIGHANDLER      void (*)()

Is this critical?  I'd rather not do source code changes, as a matter
of general policy, unless absolutely required.


--
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Internet: seb@draper.com                Cambridge, MA, USA
From: gumby@tweedledumb.cygnus.com (D V Henkel-Wallace)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: What is what in the GNUniverse?
Date: 18 Dec 92 13:41:02
Organization: /0h/users/gumby/.organization
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In-reply-to: jem@sunSITE.unc.edu's message of Thu, 17 Dec 1992 03:10:48 GMT

   Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 03:10:48 GMT
   From: jem@sunSITE.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid)

   In article <HANCHE.92Dec16172632@ptolemy.ams.sunysb.edu> hanche@ams.sunysb.edu (Harald Hanche-Olsen) writes:

   >So why isn't there a nice, clean README file there, containing a short
   >little description of each package, that I can download and study at
   >my leisure?  It would cost so little, and be so useful.  If each
   >author of GNU software was required to provide such a description (max
   >10 lines, say) then a coordinator could produce the required file in
   >no time at all.

   Would you believe that I have already done this?  the INDEX file in
   sunsite.unc.edu's mirror of prep (/pub/gnu) contains what you are looking
   for. In a couple of cases, its a few decimal places behind in version
   number (I wrote it a couple of months ago and haven't updated it since).

   If somebody in charge likes, I can donate my list to prep as well.

Could Hanche volunteer to keep this list current?  Should take no time
at all!
From: dodd@mycenae.cchem.berkeley.edu (Lawrence R. Dodd)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU Hello (was Re: What is what in the GNUniverse?)
Date: 18 Dec 92 04:29:54
Organization: Dept of Chemical Engineering, Polytechnic Univ, NY, USA
Distribution: gnu
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In-reply-to: charlie@umnstat.stat.umn.edu's message of Fri, 18 Dec 1992 02:53:13 GMT

>>>>> "Charles" == Charles Geyer <charlie@umnstat.stat.umn.edu> writes:
  Charles> Nntp-Posting-Host: isles.stat.umn.edu

  Charles> In article <JENSK.92Dec17103735@hpbeo82.bbn.hp.com> jensk@hpbbn.bbn.hp.com (Jens Kilian) writes:
>Well, but GNU hello is a very good example of how you would start writing
>a piece of new GNU software. It's all there - configure script, TeXinfo
>documentation, regression test, ...

  Charles> which is broken BTW (not the program, just the test).  Lots of fun stuff in
  Charles> there.

has anyone out there written and emacs-lisp support package for GNU Hello?
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
From: steinarb@idt.unit.no (Steinar Bang)
Subject: Re: Dylan supported by GNU in future ?
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology, Trondheim, Norway
	<1gnu87INNguv@uwm.edu> <1992Dec17.012658.11627@u.washington.edu>
Date: 17 Dec 92 13:55:07

>>>>> In article <1992Dec17.012658.11627@u.washington.edu>, tzs@carson.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith) writes:

> anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber) writes:

>> it does not have much resources and would probably lose.  Suits are
>> in Apple's best interest as it has much resources and often wins.
>> Apple only loses against similarly large, powerful companies.

>> The issue just isn't proprietary vs open, litigious vs coopertive,
>> it's also the corporate monolith vs the little guy.

> So why did Apple pay off the guy who claimed Hypercard infringed his
> patent rather than just litigate his tiny company out of existence?

Probably because their legal advisors advise them that he had such a
strong case that it would be cost-effective to pay him off.

It obviously made good PR, as well...;-)

- Steinar
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
From: swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: quality of GNU stuff vs. Sun OS stuff
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Distribution: gnu
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:28:26 GMT

In article <PREECE.92Dec3171718@predator.urbana.mcd.mot.com>, preece@urbana.mcd.mot.com (Scott E. Preece) writes:
> In article <f5#23s-@rpi.edu> night@acm.rpi.edu (Trip Martin) writes:
> |   Since the US now is a party to the Berne agreement, any document is 
> |   implicitly copyrighted by the author, unless otherwise stated, rather
> |   than being implicitly public domain unless a copyright accompanies it
> |   (which is the way it used to be in the US).  Incidentally, you own the
> |   copy of the document you have, but what exactly that means for email
> |   is pretty fuzzy.
> ---
> Even before we became a party to the Berne convention the question of
> ownership of letters was well resolved.  The author owns the right to
> reproduce them, NOT the recipient (who only owns her own copy).  This
> has been upheld by quite a few court decisions.
> 
> Don't quote unpublished letters without the author's permission; don't
> quote published letters without the copyright holder's permission.

Every once in a while, I'll post a question to some group (comp.lang.c,
rec.travel, whatever).  I'll sometimes get a request from someone via email, 
asking for a copy of all of the answers I received to my original question.
In the past, I thought nothing of putting all of the replies I received in a
file and mailing it out.  My reasoning has been, I am a total stranger to
most, if not all, of the people who helped me and I thought that since they
didn't mind helping me, they wouldn't mind helping some other total
stranger.

Here is an example:  Last year I attended the SUG conference in San Jose.  A
few months before the conference, I posted a request to rec.travel, asking
for info on San Jose and San Fransisco.  I received around 25 replies to my
question.  A few weeks later, a few people asked me to send them a copy of
all of the replies I received.  I thought there was no problem with this and
did so.  Now, am I to understand that this was an illegal/wrong/rude thing to
do??

-- 
David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@accs.duc.auburn.edu
From: friedman@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Noah Friedman)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU Hello (was Re: What is what in the GNUniverse?)
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:14:03
Organization: Free Software Foundation, 675 Mass Ave. Cambridge, MA 02139
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In-reply-to: dodd@mycenae.cchem.berkeley.edu's message of 18 Dec 92 04:29:54

In article <DODD.92Dec18042954@mycenae.cchem.berkeley.edu> dodd@mycenae.cchem.berkeley.edu (Lawrence R. Dodd) writes:
>has anyone out there written and emacs-lisp support package for GNU Hello?

Yes, do "M-x compile", and when it gives the default command line,
just substitute it with "hello ..."   :-)
From: karl@cs.umb.edu (Karl Berry)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Concerns about the FSF and the GNU project
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:18:33 GMT
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Reply-To: karl@cs.umb.edu
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston


    [software patents] benefit
    no one except those large corporations that have the resources to employ
    armies of lawyers

Actually, I think software patents don't benefit those corporations, but
only the lawyers.
--
karl@cs.umb.edu
Member of the League for Programming Freedom---write to lpf@uunet.uu.net.
From: ddj+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug DeJulio)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Dylan supported by GNU in future ?
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:41:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.BzEx1F.11s.2
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1992Dec16.220835.2973@netcom.com> jimlynch@netcom.com (Jim Lynch) writes:
>Not so: you must add to this category any code that uses Bison; this is an
>example of the author wanting _all_software to be free. If I write my own
>parser, can I use bison _just_ to generate the parse tables (and do what I
>want with the result?) 

Yeah.  The reason you have to GPL Bison output currently is that the
skeleton file is included in the output, and that skeleton file is
covered by the GPL.  If you modify Bison so that it just outputs
tables and doesn't include the skeleton, or if you write from scratch
your own skeleton files, that restriction should go away.
-- 
Doug DeJulio
ddj+@cmu.edu
From: russed@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Daniel Russell)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Viewing .dvi files on a vt100 screen
Date: 20 Dec 92 21:50:30 GMT
Distribution: usa

mstankus@oba.ucsd.edu (Mark Stankus) writes:

>I vaguely remember seeing somewhere a program which allows one to look
>at the output of tex or latex on the screen of a vt100 terminal.
>Maybe some .mil computer somewhere. Does anyone know where this 
>program is?

	What you're looking for is dvi2tty.  Check archie for the nearest
site.  It doesn't handle any special stuff, but it's better than trying
to read .tex files.

 dan

>Mark Stankus
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
From: jimlynch@netcom.com (Jim Lynch)
Subject: Re: Dylan supported by GNU in future ?
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:08:35 GMT

anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber) said:
>>>>>
only code that developers which to be part of GNU need have
the GPL.
<<<<<
 
Not so: you must add to this category any code that uses Bison; this is an
example of the author wanting _all_software to be free. If I write my own
parser, can I use bison _just_ to generate the parse tables (and do what I
want with the result?)
From: hanche@ams.sunysb.edu (Harald Hanche-Olsen)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: What is what in the GNUniverse?
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:26:32 GMT
Distribution: gnu
Organization: University at Stony Brook, NY

FTPing to prep.ai.mit.edu I find in the pub/gnu directory about 88
packages (=programs, libraries and program collections).  This is all
very impressive, and must represent countless hours of good work by
innumerable volunteers.  A lot of the stuff there I already use, and
there might be lots more that could be useful to me.  However,

(setq whine-mode t)

with fancy names like ae, bison, elvis, hello (hello!? did someone
write "Hello world" in 105591 bytes (compressed)?  I hope not!), and
so on, it is not always clear what these things do.  Out of 88 or so
packages I find I recognize the use of about 2/3 of them -- I imagine
that makes me a very well informed person indeed?

The only way I see to get information about a GNU package is to
download it, or ask in this forum.  Both are a massive waste of
bandwidth (and my time) if it turns out I am not interested after all.

So why isn't there a nice, clean README file there, containing a short
little description of each package, that I can download and study at
my leisure?  It would cost so little, and be so useful.  If each
author of GNU software was required to provide such a description (max
10 lines, say) then a coordinator could produce the required file in
no time at all.

(setq whine-mode nil)

Thank you for your attention.

- Harald
From: pasturel@BA.TIS.COM (Pierre Pasturel)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: gnu DBMS out there?
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:50:27 GMT
Reply-To: pasturel@TIS.COM
Organization: Trusted Information Systems


This appears to be the right newsgroup for this question:

  Are there any DBMSes that gnu provides? If so, where can
I get the executables?  A list of what gnu provides (gcc,emacs,....)
or where to find such a list would also be helpful.

Thanks for any info and please e-mail directly to me, as
I don't read this newsgroup regularly.

Pierre
pasturel@tis.com
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