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From: lisa@hpfcbig.SDE.HP.COM (Lisa Stroyan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Two Copies of Memo Editor on the HP95
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:59:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpfcbig.41730085
Organization: HP SESD, Fort Collins, CO

To solve the problem of only having one editor, I have been using the
new system manager compliant version of freyja extensively for the
last couple of weeks.  Since it is multi-buffer, there presumably is
only one copy of the code in RAM, and I can edit multiple files and
switch between them very quickly.

Also, it adds many features that as an emacs user I have come to
depend upon, such as query-search-and-replace, fill-paragraph,
auto-fill-mode, etc.  I could go on.

I would encourage you to give it a try.  If you are not an emacs user,
I would encourage you to give that a try first!  (Now don't get me
wrong, I am not trying to start an editor war here :).

Thanks again to Craig Finseth for a great freeware program!

Lisa


Lisa Stroyan
HP Software Engineering Systems Division (no relation to the palmtop division)
Fort Collins, CO
lisa@fc.sde.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: cloos@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (James H. Cloos Jr.)
Subject: Re: HP-95 password /automatic
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies, Ithaca, NY 14853
	<1992Apr15.181409.5602@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>
	<1992Apr16.124851.5954@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>
	<CLOOS.92Apr16225650@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU>
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 05:54:43 GMT

Hate to followup myself, but after writing my initial article on this
thread, I rebooted the 95 and turned it off with ALT-ON.  I waited
until after midnight.  When I entered my password, I got the error
beep plus shutoff again.  No exm's (built-in or not) were run at all.
My topcard is _dat\topcard.pcx.

-JimC
--
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From: fin@unet.umn.edu (Craig A. Finseth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Two Copies of Memo Editor on the HP95
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:57:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: news2.1992Apr10.185736.8662
Organization: University of Minnesota, Networking Services.

In article <65300118@hpcvra.cv.hp.com>, everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Everett Kaser) writes:
|> Well, obviously you've got it "working", but *I'd* be REALLY nervous about
|> this.  First, placing an entry in the C: drive APNAME.LST that points to A:
|> (or vice versa, A: that points to C:), has been known to cause problems, and
|> was never intended to be supported (and isn't).  Secondly, there potential for

Umm, let me make suree that I understand you here.  My APNAME.LST on
C: is supposed to *only* point to files on C: and the same for A:?
This is news to me (not saying it isn't true mind you), and I have
been studying this stuff a lot lately.

Craig A. Finseth			fin@unet.umn.edu
1343 Lafond				Craig.Finseth@nic.mr.net
St Paul MN 55104-2437			+1 612 644 4027
USA
From: everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Everett Kaser)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:49:27 GMT
Subject: Re: re. backup mode
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops

sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay) writes...
>Try doing a hard reset, and then hit the power button. I've gotten my 95
>into a mode sometimes from just playing around where it will lock up 
>in a similar fashion and won't shut off. I got the 'On' switch to be
>recognized by doing a hard reset and just hitting the 'On' button
>while it was waiting at the 'Initialize RAM Disk' question. The Jag
>obediently recognizes the button and powers down at this point.
>Just remember to type 'N' when you turn it back on :)

It's possible that what's happened when you "get your machine into this state"
is that you've done a "print screen".  Remember that the SHIFT key is sticky.
If you've pressed it, don't realize the sticky shift is on, and then try to
press the ESC key to get out of somewhere, you get PrtSc (shift-ESC).  A
print screen (going out the serial port) will take almost 30 seconds, and the
machine won't respond to any keys (including the ON key) during this time.

** Everett Kaser                   Hewlett-Packard Company
** ...hplabs!hp-pcd!everett        work: (503) 750-3569   Corvallis, Oregon
** everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com        "Today is a good day for change."
From: lisa@hpfcbig.SDE.HP.COM (Lisa Stroyan)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 18:58:29 GMT
Subject: Re: New HP95LX Archive Site
Organization: HP SESD, Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops

In comp.sys.palmtops, shawn@fenchurch.mit.edu (Shawn F. Mckay) writes:

>I think a Thank You is in order for priol & irisa for their
>building such a good archive of software and documentation.

Yes, and Thank You for taking it over!

Lisa


Lisa Stroyan
HP Software Engineering Systems Division (no relation to the palmtop division)
Fort Collins, CO
lisa@fc.sde.hp.com
From: usenet@crd.ge.com (Required for NNTP)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: re. backup mode
Date: 10 Apr 92 23:00:23 GMT
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

In article <1992Apr10.191816.5482@linus.mitre.org> sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay) writes:
.......
>Which raises a complaint I've seen on here once or twice before:
>For real, true, serious use as a DOS machine, its too fragile.  There really
>should be a way to not have to go through the whole reset procedure including
>flushing the RAM disk. Ideally what I'd like to see is perhaps a multi-step
>or multi-entry reset procedure where you could choose to totally reset and
>flush everything or reload the OS only or reload the default system config files,


"Too fragile" . you must be kidding. Do you mean to say that you have never
hung up you desktop PC and had to re-boot? I just can't believe that.
Also, why are you resetting your RAM disk? I have had my 95LX since Nov
and have never destroyed anything on the disk. I have had to do a warm
boot a number of times, but that leaves everything intact. I have also
had to cold boot 4 or 5 times, but even then, I have to reset only the date
and time, and all is back to normal. You _must_ be running some very strange
software. You also mention reloading the OS. I am beginning to believe we are
using different machines. The OS on my 95LX is in ROM and is always there.
Was your note really about a 95LX or a different machine <g>.

 

Vic Roberts
GE Research and Development Center, Schenectady, NY
roberts@crd.ge.com
From: jjd@BBN.COM (James J Dempsey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: tiny modems for HP95LX? (FAQ?)
Date: 16 Apr 1992 17:37:29 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jjd@BBN.COM (James J Dempsey)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com
Keywords: modem hp95

At the risk of bringing up an oft asked question (I'm new to this
group), does anyone have suggestions about what is a good small modem
for the HP95LX?  Or perhaps models to avoid?

I have read the section of the manual which talks about modems
(WorldPort).  I have also read the modems.doc file in the archives
which says to avoid the 2400MNP version of you want to run on
batteries.

Is the WorldPort the way to go?  What about other vendors.  A friend
recommended a tiny fax modem from a Massachusetts company called Micro
Electronic Technologies.  Any experience?

Is there any need for more speed than 2400bps given the limited screen
and keyboard?

Thanks,

		--Jim Dempsey--
		jjd@bbn.com
 


Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: ark@eclipse.stanford.edu (Arthur Keller)
Subject: Memory Cards for HP95LX
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:37:13 GMT


What configurations (e.g., sizes) to RAM cards for the HP95LX come in?
What are good sources for HP and non-HP cards?  Brent Geske recently
posted a message about 512K HP RAM cards available through Service
Merchandise.  What's a good source and pricing for 1M cards?  Thanks.

Also, what ROM cards are available?  Thanks.

Arthur

Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: paul@actrix.gen.nz (Paul Gillingwater)
Subject: Re: Nasty nasty HP95LX bug
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 02:20:04 GMT

In article <41730083@hpfcbig.SDE.HP.COM> lisa@hpfcbig.SDE.HP.COM (Lisa Stroyan) writes:
> >I did a chkdsk/f, and ended up with three *.chk files.  I'm hoping
> >to reconstruct my appointment book from them.
> 
> **Mild flame on***
> But what happened to your backups???  All computers should be backed
> up, but especially the 95LX!  Personally, I don't *wan't* backup files
> lying around on the 95.  Disk space is too precious; that would be
> about another 10-15K, doing nothing.  I back it up myself every
> morning anyway, so what would be the point?
> **Mild flame off***

Fortunately, Lisa, my asbestos underwear is intact.  :-)  Actually,
I do have frequent backups -- but I guess I was getting complacent,
and hadn't done it for a few days.  I use my 95LX a *lot*, and had
hoped to catch the last couple of days of appointments.

> If you have a RAM card and DIET, there is one other precaution you can
> take.  Unfortunately, this is a precaution against programs that trash
> the C: disk, and wouldn't have helped you.  What I do is have a script
> that copies various files over to A:\BAK, and then DIETs them.  Since
> much of my data is on A: already, there is not that much on C: that
> needs to be backed up to A:.  If A: has problems too, I have to
> restore from my workstation, but I have never had that happen yet.  So

I too have a RAM card, plus a script which does the backup to it.
Yes, this is a good technique, and I recommend it to other users.  I
wasn't concerned so much about myself, but, like you, would like to
encourage other 95LX users to take frequent backups.  Unfortunately,
this *bug* will bite many many people.  Not all of them will
understand the importance of regular backups.

Nice chatting with you Lisa!
-- 
Paul Gillingwater, paul@actrix.gen.nz
From: jp07@gte.com (James Paschetto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Help with Mac<->Wizard communication
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:25:09 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories Incorporated, Waltham MA

Has anyone out there used the Wizard as a remote terminal, doing I/O from/to
a Mac?  What do you need in the way of cables?  Do you just hook up the
Sharp "Macintosh Link" cable & put the Wiz into terminal mode & go?

Thanks for any help,
Jim.
jp07@gte.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: peterco@eff.org (Peter A. Cohen)
Subject: HP 95LX to Mac?
Organization: ON Technology, Inc.
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1992 20:30:28 GMT

I'm just trying to gauge the popularity of this- do you use both a Mac and an
HP 95LX?  If so, how important is it to you that the personal organizing
software that you use be able to export to the HP?

- Peter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: wizard/hp95lx
From: vcmgt0j7@VAX.CSUN.EDU (Mingfang Li)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 00:24:05 GMT
Reply-To: vcmgt0j7@VAX.CSUN.EDU
Organization: Cal State Northridge

In article <6384@lib.tmc.edu>, jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.155117.16534@csun.edu> vcmgt0j7@VAX.CSUN.EDU writes:
>>Wizard's software is better designed, phone book, memo (truly what it means), 
>>appointment book (especially its weekly view), and outline programs are very 
>>well conceived. Its keyboard is better.
>
>OK, I'm lost. I've never had a Wizard, having philosophical objections to a

I have the same philosophical objections.  But it won't stop me from 
complaining the poorly written apps on HP 95LX.

>machine that has a computer in it that you can't get to, so I'm not familiar
>with HOW the Wiz' apps are better. I find the phone book and appointment
>calendar perfectly usable, the keyboard is fine, and I only use the memo
>editor for writing short notes to myself. (Bigger documents? That's what the
>machine on my desk is for.) No outliner, unfortunately, but that can be
>overcome.

Well, it does not come easy.  PC Outline has $90 registration fee.  Grandview 
is more expensive (and needs more disk space than most people can afford!).


>
>-- 
>Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
>jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by a .sig virus.
>   "While we liked developing Windows applications, we never inhaled." --
>              Philippe Kahn, in Infoworld, 13 Apr 1992
=================================================================
Mingfang Li
Department of Management, California State University, Northridge
Internet: MLI@VAX.CSUN.EDU
=================================================================
From: peer@hpbbrd.bbn.hp.com (Peter Ernst)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 06:58:59 GMT
Subject: Re: ylisp, freyja 1.3, diet, DC95
Organization: HP Mechanical Design Division
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops

>> ylisp : I get an error for DEFVAR (error: unbound function - DEFVAR).
>> This happens when I load object.lsp then graphics.lsp

In the initial posting of the ylisp95.zip there was ONE FILE missing
(ylisp.lsp). ylisp.lsp contains some LISP language extensions (like defvar).

I've sent an update of ylisp95.zip to Thierry, but I don't know if it ever
got installed since the ftp archive moved.

Since this file is the only update to ylisp95.zip you can also get it from a
response to my original posting.

In case you want to try ylisp again, make sure ylisp.lsp is loaded (just
put it into the directory where you installed ylisp.exe).

Regards, Peter
From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: wizard/hp95lx
Date: 15 Apr 1992 17:48:53 GMT
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <1992Apr15.155117.16534@csun.edu> vcmgt0j7@VAX.CSUN.EDU writes:
>Wizard's software is better designed, phone book, memo (truly what it means), 
>appointment book (especially its weekly view), and outline programs are very 
>well conceived. Its keyboard is better.

OK, I'm lost. I've never had a Wizard, having philosophical objections to a
machine that has a computer in it that you can't get to, so I'm not familiar
with HOW the Wiz' apps are better. I find the phone book and appointment
calendar perfectly usable, the keyboard is fine, and I only use the memo
editor for writing short notes to myself. (Bigger documents? That's what the
machine on my desk is for.) No outliner, unfortunately, but that can be
overcome.

-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by a .sig virus.
   "While we liked developing Windows applications, we never inhaled." --
              Philippe Kahn, in Infoworld, 13 Apr 1992
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: st901745@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Alastair M. Bor)
Subject: Wizard->95LX
Reply-To: st901745@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:17:00 GMT

I just bought a 95LX and I was wondering if there is a quick and easy
way to transfer my phone book entries from my Wizard128K to my 95LX.
I have the connectivity pack for both units...
-Alastair Bor
st901745@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
From: CCSCHR@UWOCC1.UWO.CA (Chuck Reid - x5992)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Portfolio bug solution!
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:01:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: uwovax.0702814827


 
Based on the suggestions of a few Portfolio users, I was able to install
the solution to my friend's Portofolio problems using version 1.07 of
UPDATE.COM (invoked via AUTOEXEC.BAT). This file is available at THE
atari archive located at the Univ of Michigan.
 
After installing the fix we also ran another file from the archive
called LISTFG.COM redirecting the output to the printer. This gave us a
complete listing of all remnant files in the FAT which had non-connected
sectors resulting in lost space on the PF ramdisk. This program seemed
to be very useful in itself; it showed us that if nothing else it was
time to reformat the ramdisk and reload her files from her PC backup
system now that the OS was patched/corrected via UPDATE.COM.
 
Given that the descriptions of the files at the archive are a little
terse, does anyone else have any recommendations for PF files available
at the archive site which they would classify as "should have or must
have"? A more complete description of what and why would be greatly
appreciated! Obviously, if my friend had not even heard of patches to
the OS via UPDATE.COM then any other gems out there would be similarly
obscure without your suggestion/recommendation. In particular, there
were a couple of files called FM.COM and FT.COM which were bundled in
with UPDATE.COM in PORTUTIL.LZH (I think). Can someone shed more light
on these two applications; what are they, how are they used, are they as
offical as UPDATE.COM?
 
Thanks again for all the help,
 
 
CHR.
From: edp@math.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: pocket modems and the HP95LX
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:12:03 GMT
Reply-To: edp@math.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <JEW.92Apr7102126@sunquest.sunquest.sunquest.com>,
jew@sunquest.sunquest.com (Ward...  James Ward) writes:

>I just purchased a Megahertz modem and found that it doesn't work with
>my HP95LX.  When I plug the modem into the serial port, the display
>goes blank. 

Keep playing with it before you return it.  The 95 behaved funny for me
too (with a direct line, not a modem).  It seemed to _do_ things without
me telling it to do anything if data were transmitted to it on the
serial port.  Try closing all applications and going into Communications
mode before you plug in the modem.  Make sure all the settings are
right.  After plugging in the modem, if you don't get a response, wait a
while, press control-break, et cetera.


		-- edp (Eric Postpischil)
                                "Always mount a scratch monkey."
                                edp@alien.enet.dec.com
From: usenet@crd.ge.com (Required for NNTP)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Help! 95 <---> communication. How?
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:19:29 GMT
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

In article <BMp17G.FD2@world.std.com> leschack@world.std.com (Richard LeSchack) writes:
>
>     I've tried exchanging text between HP48SX and HP95LX
>via IR with no success. Would somebody who knows how to
>do this please email me a few clues. Thanks.
>

   I have done this with my 95LX and 48SX. However I have heard that there
may be some problem with getting the IR port on with newer 95LX machines.
My ROM date is 6/5/91. I believe the serial port changes showed up first
in units with ROM dates of 9/91 or later.

   My my 95LX and 48SX I just set both to Kermit, set the serial
port to IR on the 95LX, set both baud rates to the same (I believe 2400
baud) and then set one unit, the 48SX I believe, in SERVER mode, and used
the other to send and receive files. You must make sure that all the
communication parameters (baud rate, parity, bits. etc.) are the same on both
machines, and make sure the 95LX serial port is ON, and set to IR.

Vic Roberts
GE Research and Development Center, Schenectady, NY
roberts@crd.ge.com
From: everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Everett Kaser)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:59:02 GMT
Subject: Re: HP95 rom cards
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops

fjh@bbn.com (Frederick J Hirsch) writes...
>Do ROM cards for the HP95 execute directly from ROM or do they need to 
>run from RAM? My impression is that the PCMIA (?) interface is 1.0 so
>it does not support the 2.0 cards  which can run from ROM.

ROM cards for the HP 95LX may or may not be XIP (eXecute In Place), but the
XIP ones (such as the HP Speller/Thesaurus/Dictionary card) are NOT compatible
with the PCMCIA spec, as it was not available when the HP 95LX was being
developed.  HP had to come up with a proprietary XIP scheme (which just happens
to share a great deal with how the PCMCIA XIP eventually turned out, but not
quite the same).  However, making code XIP capable is NOT a trivial task, and
as a result most third parties have chosen not to do XIP so far (requires too
many changes to their code).

>Can someone please correct me? Does derive run from ROM?

No, Derive does not XIP.  It's program code loads into RAM and runs from there.

>How can I make my own ROM card?

To make your own ROM card, you'd need a FLASH or OTP (One Time Programmable)
card, and a device to program it (such as the Databook Thincard drive for PC's
or a similar device).  Then it's pretty straight-forward.  Of course, the
Thincard drive is in the $400 to $600 price range, and a FLASH or OTP card
isn't too cheap in small quantities, either.

** Everett Kaser                   Hewlett-Packard Company
** ...hplabs!hp-pcd!everett        work: (503) 750-3569   Corvallis, Oregon
** everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com        "Today is a good day for change."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: ppalmer@oskar.uchicago.edu (Patrick Palmer)
Subject: HP95 to modem?
Keywords: serial port, modem
Organization: Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 06:26:45 GMT

I have been trying to use the HP95 serial port, and have not been able
to get anything to work.  I have the correct pinout for the HP95
serial port -- thanks to Everett Kaser's post, but I cannot get it to dial out.

1. I have checked continuity and pin numbers from the HP all the way
through an AB switch and into my modem:  everything is continuous, not
shorted, and connected to the right pin.

2. The TR light on the modem never comes on when the hp is connected,
and I can't get the Datacomm application to do anything.  If you say
connect, it just sits there forever -- without even making a modem
light blink.

3. I have gone to the MS-DOS level, and turned the serial port on and
off several times, but no indication from the modem that anything has
happened.

I have a Supra 9600 baud modem, and when I plug in the Amiga serial
cable in in place of the HP95, it works fine.  (I am using the same
settings as I do with the Amiga: 9600 baud, 8 bit, 1 stop bit, no
parity, xon-xoff enabled.)  This modem is supposed to work fine with
IBM compatibles, etc.  Is there any reason that a modem would give
trouble with the HP95?

Finally, is there any reason except a bad serial port for this
behavior?  Are there any other meaningful tests I can do?  (I am very
unknowledgeable about MS-DOS, so don't hesitate to tell me the obvious
if that is involved.)

Pat Palmer (email: ppalmer@oskar.uchicago.edu)
From: fjh@bbn.com (Frederick J Hirsch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: HP95 rom cards
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:17:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.ku18ufINNdqr
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

Do ROM cards for the HP95 execute directly from ROM or do they need to 
run from RAM? My impression is that the PCMIA (?) interface is 1.0 so
it does not support the 2.0 cards  which can run from ROM.

Can someone please correct me? Does derive run from ROM?

How can I make my own ROM card?
From: howard@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Howard Price)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 08:58:12 GMT
Subject: SLIP on the 95LX ??
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NSG-PWD, UK.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops

I remember reading a posting here a while back about somebody trying to run
SLIP (serial version of a TCP/IP stack) on the 95LX.  

Does anybody have any info on the outcome of that test?  I am currently
investigating the feasability of writing an application that could take
advantage of SLIP.  Also, if anybody knows if there is any documentation
available for SLIP I be grateful if they could point me towards it.

Thanks in advance.

Howie


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