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From: mrgreen@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (matthew green)
Subject: Re: more hacks (logged)
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 15:41:39 GMT

bosman@fwi.uva.nl (Dr.D) writes:

>hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes:

>>In article <1992Sep25.160033.24293@fwi.uva.nl> bosman@fwi.uva.nl (Dr.D) writes:
>>>
>>>Can someone explain me why my robot doesnt give hack msgs?
>>>The robot is named Omni. It is a C program using the -e option.

>>Hack messages have absolutely nothing to do with how a bot is written.
>>They are caused by the servers, when one server and another disagree
>>about who is chanop.  The only reason most hack messages are generated
>>by bots is that most opping is done by bots.  But they can come from
>>humans as well.
>>-- 

>I know this, but the general opinion seems to be...that robots cause
>them so often cause they react on /on joins so fast..before
>the +o is passed to all servers.
>But my robot does the same thing..and ive never seen it generate
>a hack msgs..if I knew why..it might help others.  maybe
>hell..I dont know


scorp.. your bot doesn't hang out on lame channels with a million other
bots that all try to op/deop everyone that has ever said a word on
"their" channel.  Thats the difference here..

-da phonnah..

Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: mshaughn@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Shaughnessy)
Subject: WE NEED A FAQ!!
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 19:58:38 GMT

Any takers??

dirk

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From: shevett@pilot.njin.net (Shayde)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: A real IRC question
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:42:17 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Okay - here's one for the irc scripting hacker.

Working under 2.2pre7:

I want to have a function that will call a shell command, and return
it's result into an IRC variable.  A few net.gods have suggested the
following:

/^alias opcheck {
	/on exec "optask *" /assign opresult $1-
	/exec -name optask date
	/wait %optask
	/say Optask result: $opresult
}

Note that 'date' could be anything at all.  The problem is, the 
/on exec *does* get triggered when the subtask generates output.
What's wrong?  NO VALUE!  I can't get anything back from the sub
shell.

This seems like a somewhat tedious wayh of doing things, and I'd
love to find an alternate procedure, but TFM doesn't help at all
(yes, I have all the pre docs.)

Suggestions?

Dave Shevett - 'Shayde'
shevett@pilot.njin.net
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: cheesmna@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU (Norman Allen Cheesman)
Subject: Re: How to Get onto IRC?
Reply-To: cheesmna@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:56:37 GMT

In article <1306500005@igc.apc.org>, John Bonine  E-LAW US <ejohn@igc.apc.org> writes:
>
>For someone curious about irc, can you provide a telnet address
>or whatever is needed to drop in and see what irc is about?
>
Yes, I would like to finally break down and blatantly as for an address or
two.  And the port numbers to go with them.  I find plenty of sites that
are supposed to be running IRC but it's kinda tough to connect (as I recall)
without a port number...

Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl)
Subject: Re: Can someone please explain BOTS.
Organization: Department of Astronomy, University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 16:14:49 GMT

In article <1a18odINN9i@golem.wcc.govt.nz> kennedy_d@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:

>Being new to IRC I do not understand how bots works ?
>What are they ? How are they created and how are they used ?

A "bot" (or automaton, as they were originally called) is any program
that appears to be an irc user. They can do anything that a human can
do on IRC, except hold an intelligent conversation.

The first automaton I saw was Wisner's Bartender bot, which just handed
people drinks. I wrote an automaton that ran a multi-player Wumpus
game. Got me 4 points on the hacker purity test. Haistat Wumpuksen!
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: Ernie
Subject: extro.ucc.su.oz.au and problem users
Organisation: IRC Admin on minnie.cs.su.oz.au
Reply-To: jont@cs.su.oz.au
Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney
Followups-To: poster
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 07:09:07 GMT

It seems extro does not wish to help us find which user is abusing irc.
( Beyond running the identd daemon. )

If some user from extro uses some server in order to fake his/her username
and cause trouble, then I suggest mailing the admin of the server asking them
to run authuser code.

You may also choose to mail support@extro asking for their support in finding
which user is abusing the net.
[ I do suggest you have at least a log of the trouble though :-]

In the mean time we are sorry for the interuption caused by kills for the
obnoxious user(s).

It would be helped by admins with otherwise open connections ( who dont
have authuser code running ) K: lining extro.ucc.su.oz.au.

In my opinion no server should have open connections without having
authuser code running.

Ernie
PS the local server to extro is open to extro users and running the authuser
code. ( minnie.cs.su.oz.au )
--
Jonathon Earnshaw Tidswell       | jont@cs.su.oz.au  ( Ernie on IRC )
Basser Dept. of Comp. Science    | Phone:  +61 2 692 4802
Bldg (FO9) University of Sydney  | Fax:    +61 2 692 3838
Sydney NSW 2006 Australia        | Disclaimer: I think my thoughts are my own.
From: aiken@netcom.com (The Nonborn King)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: A question for Wumpus... (was Re: Twilight_Zone: Back to the point)
Summary: Wumpus' self-righteousness follows Avalon's ego
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:09:21 GMT
Organization: Smartass Replies 'R' Us

In article <1992Sep29.235021.17946@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.214126.159237@zeus.calpoly.edu> asamonte@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...) writes:
>
>>With all these games going on it's hard to ever tell who is the winner.
>
>Those who quit, win.

You say things like this a _lot_.  Are you trying to convince us, or yourself?

Aik


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"...if every man says all he can, if every man is true,        Enya & Roma Ryan
do I believe the sky above is Caribbean blue..."         'Caribbean Blue', 1991
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: aiken@netcom.com (The Nonborn King)
Subject: Ban improvement (was Re: extro.ucc.su.oz.au and problem users)
Organization: Better Bans 'R' Us
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 19:41:04 GMT

In article <80991@ut-emx.uucp> dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Doug McLaren) writes:
> [stuff]
>
> - Allow an invite to get somebody through a ban.  I really like this idea,
>   and it sounds very easy to implement... it would reduce the effectiveness
>   of one person banning everybody in existence, yet not go so far as
>   removing bans altogether ...

This is not exactly what you meant, but...

Mode -b needs to work differently.  Either that or create a mode +a(llow).
This is best explained by example:

    /join #UIUC tn
    /mode #UIUC +b *!*@*
    /mode #UIUC +a *!*@*uiuc.edu

This is the same idea as ignoring everyone and then unignoring certain people.
Of course, then on big channels, everyone would have their bot +a itself and
its owner, and kickban anyone who removed the +a...  but it's an idea.

Aik


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"...if every man says all he can, if every man is true,        Enya & Roma Ryan
do I believe the sky above is Caribbean blue..."         'Caribbean Blue', 1991
From: dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Doug McLaren)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: more hacks (logged)
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:14:28 GMT
Organization: Doug's House of Disco

In article <1992Sep25.160033.24293@fwi.uva.nl> bosman@fwi.uva.nl (Dr.D) writes:

>So..why doesnt it create a hack msg?  Just curious 

Put it in the middle of a kick war ... it'll make them !!!
-- 
The opinions stated above are mine (and quite possibly mine alone!)  However,
 for a brief time, and a nominal fee, they can be yours too.  Operators are 
standing by! Call Now! DouG McLareN, dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu, DemoN on IRC.
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed)
Subject: Twilight_Zone: Second home to wizards and their followers
Keywords: Gwydion has no clues
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:07:42 GMT

gwydion@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Basalat Ali Raja) writes:

>>I dont play power games on IRC. 

>Correction.  You do not play what you call power games on IRC.
>However, you do play what I and a number of other people call power
>games on IRC.

Well thanks for quoting me with some context.

So, just so we know where things are at, what do you call
"power games on IRC" ?

avalon
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl)
Subject: Re: Twilight_Zone: Back to the point
Keywords: Avalon ego going to infinity
Organization: Department of Astronomy, University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 23:50:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.214126.159237@zeus.calpoly.edu> asamonte@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...) writes:

>With all these games going on it's hard to ever tell who is the winner.

Those who quit, win.



Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed)
Subject: Re: extro.ucc.su.oz.au and problem users
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
Date:  5 Oct 92 08:12:51 GMT

dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Doug McLaren) writes:

[...]
>I think bans need some work at the server level.  A few suggestions:
> - Have bans expire when the person who created them leaves the channel
>   (doesn't sound easy to implement, though ...)

What about netsplits and all sorts of other things ?
/QUIT is one way to leave IRC, there are many other ways of being forced
off.

> - Limit wildcards in bands.  Not only is there no real reason to ever
>   make a ban of *!*@* unless you're there to cause trouble, but I'm
>   getting really tired of seeing 20 bans on ONE account, all with various
>   letters replaced with '*'s ... (again, doesn't sound like too great of
>   a solution ..) or ..

Well is there really a solution to this ?

> - Allow an invite to get somebody through a ban.  I really like this idea,
>   and it sounds very easy to implement... it would reduce the effectiveness
>   of one person banning everybody in existence, yet not go so far as
>   removing bans altogether ...

There would be one condition with this: invites would be broadcast to
channels.  This is why bans were given highher priority than invite.

> - Or remove bans altogether.  But this sounds a bit drastic ...

yup.

avalon
From: IO10356@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Pamela Gorham)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: How do I get on IRC?
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:44:37 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

I read what was posted by someone on how do to get an account but
I couldn't do. Could someone explain to me in layman's how to get
an account on IRC!
                                       -pammy
                   Thank you!
From: tanglai@ecst.csuchico.edu (Nirgalli)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Can someone please explain BOTS.
Date: 29 Sep 92 03:43:27 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico

-JizBeast
>
From: hammar@wpi.WPI.EDU (Michelle N Hammar)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: IRC QUESTIONAIRE
Date: 7 Oct 1992 03:48:46 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu


Hi.  This is a questionaire to help with a school project about irc.  Please
take a few minutes to answer the questions as completely and honestly as
possible.  All answers will be considered anonymous (no email addresses will
be used).  If, for some reason, you receive several of these, please only
complete one.  Thank you for your time.


IRC Questionnaire  

1.  What is your age?

2.  Are you male or female?

3.  How were you first introduced to irc?

4.  How long have you been using irc?

4a.  Is irc the only reason you use a computer?

5.  How many hours per week do you spend using irc?

5a.  Did you gradually increase to this level of usage, or did you always
        use irc this much?

6.  What benefits do you feel you gain by using irc?

7.  Do you use irc at work?

7a.  If yes, why? (inter-office communications, conference calls, social use,
                   etc.)

8.  Do you use irc at school?

8a.  If yes, why? (academic, informational, or social use)

9.  If you don't use irc at either work or school, where and why do you use 
        irc?

10.  On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 meaning very shy, how shy do you consider
        yourself?

10a.  Do you feel conversations on irc help compensate for you shyness?

11.  On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 meaning very attractive, how attractive
        do you consider yourself?

12.  Do you ever use irc for social purposes?

12a.  Have you ever become close friends with someone you met over irc?

12b.  Have you ever had a romantic relationship with someone you met over
        irc?  If yes, how many?

12c.  Have you ever taken a trip to see (face to face) someone you met over
        irc?

13.  Have you ever created your own channel?

13a.  Have you ever broken off onto a private channel with another individual?

14.  What conventions (ex:  smile :-) ) do you use regularly?

14a.  Why do you find these conventions necessary?

14b.  Have you ever made up your own convention?  If so, what was it and what
        meaning did it convey?

14c.  Was it effective (did it catch on)?

15.  What do you feel are the limitations of expressing effective meaning over 
        irc compared to other forms of communication (face to face, over 
        telephone, etc.)

16.  Is there any emotion which cannot yet be effectively expressed over irc?

17.  What other comments/criticisms/complaints do you have concerning irc?


Thanx alot!


******************************************************************************
"Burn...what a limited imagination" --Pinhead
hammar@wpi.wpi.edu     Michelle (Giggles) Hammar
******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.irc.ircii
From: aiken@netcom.com (The Nonborn King)
Subject: The first alt.irc/alt.irc.ircii cross-post  :)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 04:31:29 GMT
Organization: Cross-posts 'R' Us
Followup-To: alt.irc.ircii
Keywords: cross,crucifix,X,post,lamp,dumb-as-a

In article <80489@ut-emx.uucp> dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Doug McLaren) writes:
>
> [some irrelevant stuff]
>
>/on ^public "* *<insert word that bothers you here>*" #

Um, why don't most people seem to realize that in IRCII you can just say...

    /on ^something *

You don't need the # (comment).

Aik


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"...if every man says all he can, if every man is true,        Enya & Roma Ryan
do I believe the sky above is Caribbean blue..."         'Caribbean Blue', 1991
From: tjm@hrt213.brooks.af.mil (Tim Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: IRC Servers in Germany ?? IP Number(s) wanted!
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:26:49 GMT
Organization: AL/HRTI, Brooks AFB, TX


On 2 Oct 1992 16:12:15 GMT, bh725@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Werner J. Karl) said:

 W> Does anyone out there know one ? I want to install my own client and
 W> it would be pretty much faster form here (Germany) if I had an IP #
 W> of a near Server .. instead of telnetting to US Thanx previously ..
 W> werner

	As of 2 Oct 92, 1124 CDT, these were connected:
/links *.de
Server: rwth-aachen.de (6 [137.226.224.9] Aachen, Germany [2.7.1e+10])
Server: tu-berlin.de (7 [130.149.17.5] Technical University of Berlin, Ger)
Server: uni-erlangen.de (6 [faui43.informatik.uni-erlangen.de] University of )
Server: service.de (6 [dsrbg2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de] TU Muenchen, Ge)
Server: TU-Muenchen.DE (5 [131.159.0.115] TU Muenchen, Germany [2.7.1e+-argv)
Server: uni-passau.de (6 [132.231.1.20] University of Passau, Germany[2.7.2)
Server: Uni-KL.DE (5 [131.246.19.1] Kaiserslautern, Germany [2.7.2g])
Server: *.uni-oldenburg.de (5 [134.106.1.7] Oldenburg, FRG)
Server: uni-stuttgart.de (5 [129.69.221.120] Stuttgart University, FRG)
Server: uni-karlsruhe.de (5 [129.13.64.7] University of Karlsruhe, Germany)
Server: noc.belwue.de (4 [129.143.2.1] BELWUE, Germany [2.7.2])
Server: Uni-Paderborn.DE (6 [athene.uni-paderborn.de] [131.234.2.32] Universit)

	nslookup should get you numbers for the ones not listed with
them.

-- Cerebus <tjm@hrt213.brooks.af.mil>
"Word of the Day: Plew."
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Offensive language. *warning*
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 00:46:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.014246.23893@ultb.isc.rit.edu> dwt8413@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>Can anybody tell me where I can get onto a server that will let me IRC? One
>other guy here asked and was told it would rot his brain. I've used it before
>on a friends account and enjoyed it. Didn't do any damage!!

It rots your brain.  Your GPA is inversely proportional to the amount of
time spent IRCing... 
-- 
   And thither came Conan, a thief, a reaver, a slayer, to tread the jeweled 
   thrones of the Earth beneath his sandaled feet.  --THE NEMEDIAN CHRONICLES 
hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu             _V_a_l_h_a_l_l_a BBS, 217-352-3682, WWIV4.21, 14.4k
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: macster@IASTATE.EDU (Michael C Mccarty)
Subject: This is just stupid...
Reply-To: macster@IASTATE.EDU (Michael C Mccarty)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 02:40:40 GMT

I just started my subscription to this channel today.  When I subscribed to this
channel, I was hoping to read interesting posts about bots and irc problems and
discoveries.   Well, to put it mildly, I am extremely disappointed....

At most 5% of the 100 or so posts I read had anything at all to do with IRC. 
The rest were flames back and forth about such irrelevent subjects as vulgar
language and freedom of speech.  

Look people, if these subjects are really the only things you have any concern
for, go to the appropriate newsgroup for these subjects.  Even better, to save
those groups from your mindless banter as well, use e-mail!!!  Do not annoy
everyone else reading these groups with your innane comments and insults.  You
are not making this group worth reading.

In a nutshell, if you don't have anything interesting to say, don't say it!

Well, now that I've gotten my hypocritical lecture out of the way :), lets get
on with the REAL posts...

					Mike

Go ahead... Flame me... Make my day... ;^)
From: rodder@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jon D. Rodder)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Twilight_Zone: Back to the point
Keywords: Avalon ego going to infinity
Date: 4 Oct 92 21:07:32 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Sep29.235021.17946@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.214126.159237@zeus.calpoly.edu> asamonte@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...) writes:
>
>>With all these games going on it's hard to ever tell who is the winner.
>Those who quit, win.

Surely you saw the movie Wargames....
"The only winning move is not to play the game"

-- 
Jon D. Rodder
rodder@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu

67 Camaro RS - 350/4spd
79 Rx-7 - 12A/Holley 4bbl
89 Jeep Wrangler - 258/PIECE OF JUNK!
From: asamonte@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: We =HAVE= a FAQ (was: Re: WE NEED A FAQ!!)
Date: 2 Oct 92 02:07:38 GMT
Organization: Nothing worth mentioning...

mshaughn@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Shaughnessy) was telling me...
>Any takers??

There is already a FAQ..
It can be found on
cs.bu.edu
in /irc/support/alt-irc-faq

Probably a few other places too.

Get your 'faq's straight before you post...

-Alex
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: How do you stop the /list before the end?
From: dfield@zeus.calpoly.edu (Dan Field (InfoSpunj))
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 07:33:20 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

The /list tends to be many screenfulls.  Is there a way to end it
when you find what you want?  Thanks.

-- 

                                -Daniel R. Field
                                 dfield@nike.calpoly.edu
From: gwydion@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Basalat Ali Raja)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Twilight_Zone: Back to the point
Keywords: Avalon ego going to infinity
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:42:24 GMT
Reply-To: gwydion@gnu.ai.mit.edu.UUCP (Mercenary Programmer)
Organization: Free Software Foundation

>I dont play power games on IRC. 

Correction.  You do not play what you call power games on IRC.
However, you do play what I and a number of other people call power
games on IRC.



Gwydion.
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: s310@brems.ii.uib.no (Chris Tveit)
Subject: help on mail
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 17:04:38 GMT

I'm new on irc and here is my question:

When i log o to irc i get the message: "You have mail"

How can I read this mail ?

(Is there anything else I should know about irc-mail ?)

Chris.

Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: StarOwl@uiuc.edu (StarOwl)
Subject: Re: extro.ucc.su.oz.au and problem users
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Reply-To: StarOwl@uiuc.edu
Organization: Actuarial Science Program at UIUC
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 17:15:23 GMT
Keywords: significant words from a document used as an index to content

dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Doug McLaren) writes:

: How DOES one get control of other users at their site ?  Mail to root?
: Sending Guido to rough them up?  Telepathic suggestion?

Send Guido.  Definitely.  It's the only way.

--
Michael Adams (aka StarOwl)	 		"Republicans understand the
Internet:  StarOwl@uiuc.edu			 importance of bondage between
Bitnet:    FREE1217@UIUCVMD			 parent and child."
Anonymous: wi.5467@n7kbt.rain.com			-- Dan Quayle
UUCP:      ...!uiucuxc!uiuc.edu!StarOwl                                    

Marrou/Lord in '92



Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: aa783@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Spaeth)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: IRCII Clients
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:57:45 GMT
Reply-To: aa783@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Spaeth)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I'm sure this is a FAQ, but could someone E_MAIL me a file on the entire
process of setting up an ircii client (from where to ftp the latest one to
connecting it to a public site) on an ULTRIX unix system?

thank you!
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: spz@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (S.P.Zeidler)
Subject: Re: Offensive language. *warning* (ha)
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 23:21:50 GMT

In <HROSE.92Sep29145909@rocza.eff.org> hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose) writes:
>Take this personal crap to email. This is no longer an irc discussion.
Trillian, I couldn't agree more. This is what I did from the onset,
more or less suggesting to this Dan Prust that anyones freedom ended
where it infringed other persons rights (and their rights to defend
themselves, eg against verbal attack or slander).

Guess what I got back ? Him telling me that I was not to use email
and a suggestion I was unable do deal with 'big words'.

So much to the value of talking to that individual at all.

stargazer
Newsgroups: alt.irc