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From: mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu (Mike Suter)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Need Help on FUEL ADDITIVES
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:35:23 GMT
Organization: BITS, St. Louis, MO

>Techron is available at many discount dept stores such as Sears, K-Mart.

Well, the Pro-Guard (diluted?) version of Techron is available at
these places.  Pure Techron I have found at only one local store
("Grandpa's"), and mail order.

>SI-1 is sold only where Redline products are available i.e. at racing parts
>shop.

Or direct from RedLine (800-624-7958)

Mike
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From: nataraja@rtsg.mot.com (Kumaravel Natarajan)
Subject: Hella Fog Lamps
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:33:49 GMT

One of the original equipment fog lamps on my '89 Probe GT 
had the lens shattered.  I called up my friendly neighborhood
Ford Dealer and asked them how much a replacement LENS would
cost.  They wanted $80 for it.

Since it's a Hella brand lamp, I thought it might be even a little
cheaper to order one directly from them.  Does anyone out there know
what the address or even better the phone number for them is?

I'm hoping that I can get a better price directly from them than
from Ford.  Thanks.

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From: wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith)
Subject: Re: Anybody into 64-73 musclecars?
Organization: The John P. Robarts Research Institute, London, Ontario
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:18:19 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.182434.23037@bmerh85.bnr.ca> seymour@bnr.ca (Jeffrey Seymour) writes:
>I still have no need for old muscle cars.  
That's just what the auto companies want to hear.
But unlike you, many movies, tv commercials, etc, do have a need for the
old cars (maybe they have more personality as well as performance?)
From: b-anders@purchasing.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: QUESTIONS ON HONDA CRX (the Del Sol is here!)
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:59:44 GMT
Organization: Utah State University (USU)

In article <4efWntK00iUxM3oxIH@andrew.cmu.edu> Jeremy Matthew Toeman <jt3h+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>The Del Sol is *NOT* the replacement for the CRX. If it doesn't do as well
>as the CRX did, there WILL be a NEW (1994 model - coming in 1993) CRX with
>a modified front end, and a new engine coming out. If the Del Sol DOES do
>well, particularly the Del Sol Si's, then they will bring in the Del Sol
>SiR which is the *TRUE* Del Sol. 175bhp@7800rpm, redline@8200rpm. Automatic
>Targa top. Automatic rear windows (they roll down).
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The del Sol Si already has automatic rear windows--at least mine does.

Just my 2 cents worth--or should I say my $19,000 worth...

c-wilcox@purchasing.usu.edu
From: david.bonds@cutting.hou.tx.us (David Bonds)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: SHO Engine for Probe
Date: 7 Sep 92 00:52:00 GMT
Reply-To: david.bonds@cutting.hou.tx.us (David Bonds)
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525


  >It will be probably faster than the Mustang 5.0, and there is absolutely no way
  >in the hell Ford will allow that.

I'd find that hard to believe, as I've seen a stock '91 SHO beat a stock '91
Mustang 5.0 on the freeway (by about half a carlength, but it happened), and 
have heard from several sources that a SHO will outaccelerate a 'stang from 
100 on up also.

My mechanic, who has a '89 SHO, has gotten it up to 140+ MPH speeds, think
a mustang would disintegrate at those speeds.  Didn't think the mustangs
were aero enough to handle decently at 100+ speeds.

Granted, a Mustang can be 'upgraded' to much more of a car than it is, stock,
but then again, so can a SHO.  While the Mustang can be the "mechanic's dream"
as far as tweaking goes, some of like having a high performance automobile 
that's practical at the same time, plus not HAVING to see the mechanic on a 
monthly basis for repairs is an added bonus!  ;-)

- Dave Bonds 
- Internet : David.Bonds@cutting.hou.tx.us
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From: chan@sumax.seattleu.edu (Anthony K.B. Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Why a Mercedes Benz 600SEL?
Date: 9 Sep 92 03:23:40 GMT
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle, WA

In article <CARL.92Sep8173044@atlantis.Cayman.COM>, carl@Cayman.COM (Carl Heinzl) writes:
> 
> >Nobody _needs_ a Mercedes.  Its physical functions can be provided by
> >a Ford Tempo.  So you have to look at why people _want_ a Mercedes.
> 
> I take 100% exception to that statement.  I would much rather be in a
> 600SEL during a real bad accident than a Ford Tempo (or any other much
> smaller car for that matter).
> 
> -Carl-
> --

I wouldn't want to be in a small car either after my Audi got rear-ended a while
back. My Audi 5000s sustained relative little damage compared to the Chev
Chevette which ran into my car. My Audi has a crumbled bumper, cracked
brake light and a small dent below the left brake light while the Chevette's
front end was totally destroyed, the front passengers forehead hit and cracked
the windshield as a result of the seatbelt didn't lockup fast enough to pull
her back. She got a real nasty bruise on her forehead. I suffered nothing  
more than frustration after I realised that the driver of the Chevette has no
insurance and his license was revoked but luckily my uninsured motorist 
insurance took care of the problem. 

Anthony

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From: sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund)
Subject: Re: Unsafe Safety Belts - CBS 'Street Stories' Report
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 20:21:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.163320.11777@cbfsb.cb.att.com> sbrenner@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (scott.d.brenner) writes:
>Did anyone else see the report on safety belts on 'Street Stories'
>last night (CBS, 9PM)?
>
>Apparently, a certain type of safety belt buckle used during the past
>10 years or so may have a fatal design flaw.  I think the only buckle
>that was discussed was the kind with the release button in the middle
>of the buckle.  They showed how easy the buckle released when hit with
>something or even when slapped across someone's hip.  The claim was
>that in certain kinds of accidents, enough force exists in the right
>place to cause the buckle to release.  Several serious injuries and
>at least one death is blamed on this problem.
>
>Now, how much validity is there in this report, and how do I tell if
>_my_ safety belts are prone to this kind of failure.  If I have 'bad'
>buckles, is there anything I can do?
>
>I'm interested in hearing people's opinions on this matter.
>
all I know is that 2 years ago my sister was riding in her thunderbird - 
her husband of almost 30 years (1 week away) was driving over hwy 17
when the front tire blew, as he was regaining control of the car -
the back wheel broke off at the axle - both of their seat belts broke
away from them (cutting part of his ear off - her neck was broken and
her head received internal concusions - she was pronounced doa at
the hospital


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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: wwein@scott.skidmore.edu (warren wein)
Subject: Re: Acura Integra vs. Ford Probe
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:07:56 GMT


Buy the Probe.

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Warren Wein

'83 Audi 5000s: sport sedan from hell!!!
'86 Toyota MR2: a real sports car, fun! fun! and more FUN!
'90 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX: "Atomic M&M"  Is this thing glued to the
                                          road? 	

" Insurance in Brooklyn costs how much ?! "

e-mail: wwein@skidmore.edu
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From: smorris@sumax.seattleu.edu (Steven A. Morris)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: GMs plan: New Credit Card (MC, then possibly VISA)
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:37:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Addiction Studies Program, Seattle University

In article <183458@pyramid.pyramid.com> jchu@pyramid.COM (Jan-Hua Chu) writes:
>They will give you 5% of the purchases you made as credit
>toward purchasing or leasing a GM car.  This credit will
>be on top of other discounts/incentives.

Yes, but note in the Ad that the deal does not include SATURN, they
list only Chevy, Pontiac, Olds, Cadillac, Buick and GMC Truck!  And
just to confirm that this is not an oversight, todays New York Times
has an article that states that SATURN is excluded.

They lost me right there --  Currently I use Airline affiliation cards
and
earn free trips.  I would certainly be interested in earning a rebate
on a new car as an alternative, but the only GM car I'd consider is
the SATURN (or Maybe the Geo Prizm -- which I note is also missing
from the list.)

if they modify the program, I would join, otherwise it limits the
options too much for me.
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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: beuf@wpi.WPI.EDU (Richard J Fuller)
Subject: ANGLED LINES YIELDING SMALLER SPACES???
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:37:05 GMT




This may be obviously wrong but here goes anyway....
I TOTALLY DISAGREE THAT ANGLED SPACES ARE narrower than
straight ones...

A picture is worth a thousand words.....

 ____ ____ ____ ____ ____
|    |    |    |    |    |
|    |    |    |    |    |
|    |    |    |    |    |
|    |    |    |    |    |


is the same thickness as an angled set

 ____ ____ ____ ____ ____
\    \    \    \    \    \
 \    \    \    \    \    \
  \    \    \    \    \    \
   \    \    \    \    \    \

CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG BUT In both cases the width
of any one spot is 4 characters..... so the narrowness is not changed by angling the spots...


I hate to disagree but if I do not understand geometry somebody please let me know
because last time I checked 4 was equal to 4....
If that changed let me know quick (my bank statement came in yesterday...!!!!)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: chinh@sequent.com (Chi'nh Duc Dang)
Subject: Opinions on '85-'86 Audi 4000S & 5000S Please!!!
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 17:25:17 GMT

  Would the owners of '85-'86 Audi 4000S or 5000S Vintage send me your comments
about your cars????
  I am interested in both  models but unsure which one is better than the other
since I've never had any experience w/ Audis before.  
  I need some infos like:  _ Power & Performance
			   _ Reliability
			   _ Cost on replacement parts
			   _ Whatever you can think of

  Thanks much

-- 

      Chi'nh Duc Dang
      Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
        Internet: chinh@sequent.com  (503) 578-4235
From: golder@ppd.kodak.com (Patrick Golder)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Passive or Attack Belts
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:38:29 GMT
Distribution: na

In article <1992Sep8.150708.17048@pmafire.inel.gov>, russ@pmafire.inel.gov (Russ Brown) writes:
|> 
|> 1. What are the safety disadvantages of the motorized seat belts?
|> 
|> 2. Is there any trend in the direction of eliminating them?
|> 
|> 3. Does the Federal government plan to require them?
|> 
|> Why do they exist?

Good question!  This has to be one of the dumbest ones they've ever come
up with (IMHO), since the belts are only semi-automatic (ie. you still have 
to manually buckle the lap belt).  If you don't use the lap belt (and from
what I've seen, most people with these things don't), you still aren't
protected in an accident.  I'd guess the result would be similar to getting
clotheslined.  You're probably better off without any belt.  I don't see
how this is supposed to be better than the 1980s-style fully-manual 3-point
belts.
From: lsls00@iliad.Kodak.Com (Ilia Levi)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Insurance problems
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:33:31 GMT
Distribution: na

My car was hit recently. The people that did it had valid insurance, we called
the police and they filled out a report(in my favor).

Now their insurer (All State) says that the people did not report the
accident to them and that All State is not liable unless they do.

This makes no sense to me. Why should it matter that the insured report
the accident to the insurance company or not? There is a police report,
it says that it was their fault, and they should pay.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to deal with the Bad Hands People :-) ?
I don't want to get money from my collision because of the deductible. 


-- 
My opinions are my own.
--------------------
Ilia, levi@kodak.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: Robert.Greene@Mail.Trincoll.Edu (Bob Greene)
Subject: 87 Mustang 5.0 Question
Organization: Trinity College
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 18:56:14 GMT

After a 10 year hiatus from 8 cylinder cars, I've got a chance to buy an '87
Mustang 5.0 LX with low mileage.  I'd like to hear from Mustang owners;
what problems should I watch out for before I buy, etc.  Also, advice on
engine and drivetrain customization.  Thanks.
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: sysjmk@sarah.albany.edu (Joe Kane)
Subject: Re: 1990 AUDI 80 FOR SALE
Keywords: 5 Speed, Sun roof
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 20:36:50 GMT

testing followup posting capability - please ignore

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From: tik@eceyv.ncsu.edu (Tsei Kuo)
Subject: Car fire!
Keywords:  87 Ford Escort Stn Wagn
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:22:03 GMT

On this Monday, I drove my '87 Ford Escort Station Wagn (milage:59k)
to work. When I got to my office's parking lot, I smelled something 
burning. But, it only last for about few seconds, then I can't smell
it again. So, I checked the buttom of the car. (Maybe it's my mistake,
I didn't check under the hood) Then, I thought maybe it's some one 
burning something in the wood (about 2, 3 miles away; it happened
several times)  So, I just walked in to my office.
 
Forty minutes later, I was paged out to find out that my car is burned 
and totalled.  The fire man told me that the fire was began somewhere
near the battery area.  Since I only have liability insurance on the car,
it ended up a pure loss (>$2000) to me.
 
Has anyone see this kind of thing before? or heard that this particular
car of Ford is tended to get self-firing.  What can I do about it?

Any suggestion is welcome.  Please forward any suggestion to
        tik@ececho.ncsu.edu
Thanks,
 
Tsei Kuo
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tuesday, 8 Sep 1992 21:54:20 CDT
From: <U53519@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject:    Fog out of A/C Ducts

The Air Conditioning ducts on my Infiniti G20 blow a white, mist-like fog
when the air has been on for a while.  No odor.  The flow seems inter-
mittent, as if a result of the compressor cycling on/off.  Any ideas
on what's going on?  Is it Freon, and am I about to die from inhaling it?

Thanks!

-- Ray Sparrowe
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
From: paul@xcluud.sccsi.com (Paul Hutmacher)
Subject: Re: Levi Jeep Stuff
Organization: Greater Montrose UFO Appreciation Society & Data Haven
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 03:08:56 GMT

In article <92252.11551132HNBAK@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> John Foster <32HNBAK@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:
>If anyone has a Jeep and wants to say howdy that's cool, too!

Howdy!  I've got a Jeep and can't help you with your seat problems although
I wouldn't hesistate to suggest you talk to the folks at Leon Rosser Jeep
in Bessemer, Alabama beofge giving up on your quest.

Those guys can point you in the right direction or sell you new ones.

Good luck!


-- 
Paul Hutmacher     -/-    Houston, Texas    -\-    paul@xcluud.sccsi.com
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From: shaig@Think.COM (Shai Guday)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
Subject: Re: Unsafe Safety Belts - CBS 'Street Stories' Report
Date: 11 Sep 1992 18:46:18 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: merlin.think.com

In article <1992Sep11.163320.11777@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, sbrenner@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (scott.d.brenner) writes:
|> Did anyone else see the report on safety belts on 'Street Stories'
|> last night (CBS, 9PM)?

Yes.  It made me glad that my previous car had a different
type of buckle.

|> Apparently, a certain type of safety belt buckle used during the past
|> 10 years or so may have a fatal design flaw.  I think the only buckle
|> that was discussed was the kind with the release button in the middle
|> of the buckle.  They showed how easy the buckle released when hit with
|> something or even when slapped across someone's hip.  The claim was
|> that in certain kinds of accidents, enough force exists in the right
|> place to cause the buckle to release.  Several serious injuries and
|> at least one death is blamed on this problem.
|> 
|> Now, how much validity is there in this report, and how do I tell if
|> _my_ safety belts are prone to this kind of failure.  If I have 'bad'
|> buckles, is there anything I can do?

Not difficult at all.  Simply slap the inside of the buckle while
pulling the belt taut.  Chances are that if your buckles are
the same design, you will get the same effect.

What to do?

I would suggest a number of things:

1. Change seatbelts.
	Lap type seatbelts are easy to replace.  You can probably
	get a set from an auto parts store.  If so, try to get
	the european style with the knob that has to be pushed
	lengthwise along the buckle as opposed to into the buckle.

2. Wait to see if Ford/GM/... will replace them.
	Not likely but who knows?

Incidentally, anyone know of a reason why aircraft lapbelt buckles
are not used in cars (or should not be) ?
They are simple to operate, safe, and strong!
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: pmartz@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz)
Subject: removing bumper stickers
Reply-To: pmartz@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 14:25:21 GMT

I just came into posession of a car, the back of which has about 10
bumper stickers on it. Not just on the rubberized bumper (it's an '88
Honda Civic DX 4dr), but also on the body and trunk. Yeah, right over
the paint.

To remove these bumper stickers, a friend of mine has suggested
repeated scrubbings with Dawn dishwashing liquid. Does anyone else
have any experience in this department? Care to share your methods and
results? Thanks for any suggestions...
-- 

   -paul	pmartz@dsd.es.com
		Evans & Sutherland
From: andchan@newton.amath.umanitoba.ca (Andrew Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: need help on CANADIAN pricing of new cars - Sentra XE/Civic LX
Date: 15 Sep 92 06:11:54 GMT
Distribution: can
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada

Greetings:

We are about to buy either a 92 Nissan Sentra XE or an 92 Honda LX 4 door
(with air-cond).

Not being power negotiaters, we would very much appreciate any
advice/experience from the net regarding the realistic rock bottom
CANADIAN prices we should try to bargain for.

We tried some car buying books available in the book stores but the
"dealer/firm price" they quote doesn't seem to fit the reality anymore.
With some quoted "dealer/firm price" actually more expensive that what the
dealers want from us now.

Thanks in advance for any advice.
-- 
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in the cosmic perspective, precious.  If a human disagrees with you,
let him live.  In a hundred billion galaxies, you will not find another.
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From: livneh@wells.rutgers.edu (Shai Livneh)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Buying an old Police car 2
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:48:55 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Thanks for all the advice.
I guess most of you netters think it's a pretty stupid idea
to buy an old cop car.  I did go to an auction last weekend
and saw about 3 cars that looked like they were in good shape
and sounded alright but I guess you can't tell about what shape
the engine is in just by listening to it.  Well, anyway these 
cars were state trooper cars (as one netter explained are better)
with 60k-70k miles and all went for around $4500.  Some other ones
with bad valves or trannys or engines went for $2000.  Some 
people also told me that they are pretty easy to work on other
than the fuel injection system and it's pretty impressive looking
at all the heavy duty stuff they have on.  I guess I might be 
getting into trouble but I think I'll keep on looking but will
also be careful what I get.  Thanks again.
							Shai
From: johns@trident.datasys.swri.edu (Stephen Johns)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: SHO Engine for Probe GT - Why Not?
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:47:35 GMT
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas

In article <1992Sep4.132022.360@engage.pko.dec.com> sontakke@helix.enet.dec.com (Vikas Sontakke) writes:
>
>It will be probably faster than the Mustang 5.0, and there is absolutely no way
>in the hell Ford will allow that.

  Like Ford would ever have to worry about that.  The 5.0 engine can easily
  be upgraded to about any level of performance anyone's twisted mind can
  conceive.  I saw some article in my brothers Super Ford magazine where some
  guy had something like 960 bhp!

  My brother has worked his engine up to about 340 bhp with some really minor
  stuff.  Lesse, underdrive pullies, heads blue-printed, mass-air sensor
  with a 71mm throttle body, roller/rockers, plus the little stuff like K&N
  air filters etc.  (He does have a 150 bhp nitros boost on top of that for
  the real fun.)  < 12.0 quarter mile times.  (Yeah, he has some suspension
  junk that I have no idea what it is.)

  I am sure there are many who know the gory(sp) details better than I, but
  getting the factory to produce that 5.0 engine with 300 or 350 bhp should
  be quite easy.

  It's kind of sad, he blows my Turbo Supra so far off the road they have to
  send helicopters to tow me!

>
>Vikas Sontakke		Digital Equipment Corporation, Maynard MA.
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