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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Pooder returns (offer)
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John)
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:16:51 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: msus

|>> And when is you SysAdmin going to give you rights to X.400?

>>I've given up on ever getting e-mail rights at work; I have to demonstrate
>>a "business need" and my job description won't support it.  Why I can post
>>is a question that goes unasked.  Like I tell my kids, "If you're not going
>>to like the answer, don't ask".  I'm going to get a modem and home 
>>Usenet access when I get a round tuit. 

Don, I am the systems manager for Winona State U. and as you know, we have
a Rochester campus.  I can give you an account
on a Vax (or ATT or RISC) and maybe even the AS/400 so you can dial
into the Rochester site and have EMail and Internet access.  
Say the word and I'll set it up.  Or call 457-5545 and ask
for me.  We have a few IBM staffers on our system now as part of our
working relationship with IBM of Rochester, so offering this service
to you is not an unusual thing to do.






Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: Daughters of the Dust
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 04:42:17 GMT

 "Peter A. Simon" <ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>Is the above mentioned "Daughters of the Dust" the ladies' dirt bike
>auxilliary of the DoD?

	I could tell you, but then I'd have to... Oh!  You're a Denizen too!
I guess you must not have been informed by your cell leader.  It's actually
the DoD Desert Riding auxilliary.  Ya see, there's this race across Baja
near Mexico next year, and the President asked us to carry along some...

	Um, is this a secure line?  I'd hate to think somebody was listening.

<Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 |"There'll be angels on Ariels in leather>
<z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu | and chrome, Ridin' down from heaven    >
<viking@iastate.edu      | just to carry me home." -- R. Thompson >
< ISU thinks I need more education, which they provide for a fee. >

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Subject: Re: Triumph Value
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:50:11 GMT

Triumph a garage ornament? Come on, kiddies. Triumphs traveled the known 
world before Soichiro Honda lost his virginity. All this bullshit about 
Britbikes being unuseable toys shows an incredible degree of ignorance. 
I've used them as my sole transportation and never missed a day's work. 
My Bonneville has been all over Texas, Oklahoma, Colorado and parts of 
Wyoming and never let me down. 
   No I'm not a diehard Triumph nut. I also have a BSA, Norton, BMW and a
Yamaha that is under construction. However, a well maintained Triumph is 
a fun, sufficiently reliable bike to enjoy. It attracts loads of admiring 
stares, and you won't lose it at most rallies. They can be made to go fast
enough to scare the shit out of anyone with the sense to be scared. In fact
Big D cycle set a land speed record in their class last year. Twin Trident
engines, partially faired with turbos went 241mph on five cylinders. Next 
month we'll see what they can do with all six.
   If you have any mechanical aptitude whatsoever, like enough to keep your
lawnmower running, you can keep a Triumph running.

Jeff Achenbach
Dallas, Tx
achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: madhatta@plume.mit.edu (Tom Yates)
Subject: Re: Helmet laws, abortions and why national health care is a Bad Idea.
Organization: CMPO at MIT
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:19:27 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.193131.7271@ncsu.edu>, jmcocker@eos.ncsu.edu (Mitch) writes:
> 
> 	Nick, have you ever had to call upon this system you live with for
> 	specialized, emergency, life-or-death treatment?  Do you personally
> 	know anyone who has?  The reason I ask is that I have always heard
> 	(it is popular rumor on this side of the pond) that socialized
> 	health care reduces the level of quality available.  Supposedly this
> 	is true in Japan, and Great Britain.  I can't speak to this from
> 	a personal standpoint, so I'm asking an open question to those who
> 	might be able to post a brief but knowledgeable response.  Any takers?

well, when i was shot in the eye when i was younger and still living in the UK
they took me to hospital, cut the bone out of the orbit, removed the eyeball,
repaired the retina, returned the eyeball, replaced the bone and sent me home in
a week or so.  and i can still see, though i am a little short-sighted in that
eye.

note that this was in 1978, under the last labour administration, before That
Bloody Woman started dismantling the health system for profit <spit>.

tom, satisfied customer
From the machine of Tom the Mad - madhatta@teaparty.mit.edu - DoD#0135
Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:57:09 -0400 
From: "Peter A. Simon" <ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: motorcycle for sale

ok, folks, this is it!  the savage (1987 suzuki ls650h) is finally up
and running and is for sale for $1500 firm (if you want to dicker, the
asking price is $2000).  THIS IS THE ULTIMATE MINIALIST MOTORCYCLE.  

new front and rear brakes.
new ignition coil (plus high tension lead and spark plug cap).
new battery.
new fork seals (sometime this week).
new speedo cable.
new clutch cable.
oil changed every 1000 miles.
oil filter changed every other oil change.
new air filter.
shop manual.
clymer's manual.
full cover.

8100 miles.

why all this new stuff?  because when something went the slightest bit
wonky  on the bike I FIXED IT and everything associated with it.  the
bike has never seen a garage and was my primary transportation for four
years so it looks a little ratty on the outside but mechanically it is
nearly perfect.

starts every time, STRONG RUNNER, (good looks--a real biker's bike).

reply this account


-peter

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*                                                                   *
* DoD #10o00                 Suzuki LS650H         NAUI INST. #1434 *
*                        (temp. back in  svc.)                      *
*                             Honda CM400                           *
*                      (hey, it runs, all right?)                   *
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From: tavares@danville (Jack Tavares)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Mobil 1 is So Smoooth
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:36:18 GMT
Reply-To: tavares@ctron.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

kcchu@gandalf.rutgers.edu (The Beach Bum) writes:
: Klotz, yeah that's it I knew it was something odd,  (hangovers do odd
: things to your reading ability) Anyway, does anyone use it?
: 
: Keith
: -- 
: -------------------------------------------------------------
: Keith Chu	Rutgers University	Computing Services
: KCHU@pisces.rutgers.edu			DoD#379  88'EX500
: KCCHU@gandalf.rutgers.edu		Dress to slide, not to ride
: -------------------------------------------------------------

Upon the recommendation of our mechanic, we put 
Klotz 20W50 into my wife's 87 Suzuki Savage
LS650H (single cylinder). We then proceeded to 
drive it approx 2200 miles to the RCR and
back. The bike ran well and shifted better (but still lousy,
typical of the bike). However, we pissed through
about 3/4 qt of the stuff during the trip.

This is significantly more oil than the savage normally uses.
The savage suffers run a problem leaking from the cylinder gasket,
this also typical of savages. Now, this being the first time that
the bike has been taken out on t he highway for long stretches of
time, we are not sure if the increased oil consumption is due to
the oil or the duration of the trip. So, what we are going to do
is change the oil & filter, use Klotz again and see what the oil
consumption is like in normal around town driving.


Jack Tavares     tavares@ctron.com <- use this address
DoD# 0570	BMWMOA# 58278	AMA# 651191	BMWRA#  16087
83 R80ST	79 KZ LTD 400H (for sale) 
If my opinion was worth protecting, do you think I would post it here?
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jimbes@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (james.bessette)
Subject: Re: Smoke 'em if you got 'em
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:24:08 GMT

In article <5279@transfer.stratus.com> cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com writes:
>Will ABS interfere with hole-shots ?
>
>Can the back tire be spun with the front locked ?
>Tire smoke after a few sec, and the bike remained stationary. 
>Are there any BMW ABS owners out there that have tried this ?  

If you spin the rear whilst the front is stationary, you will throw off
the ABS and ABS will not function (supposedly).  This is what the manual
says.  I have not tried it.

Jim Bessette

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: edg@netcom.com (Ed Greenberg)
Subject: Re: Deer Claims Another; Thoughts
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 13:11:49 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Jul21.200402.2792@news.columbia.edu> scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears) writes:
>	Consumer Reports rated emergency lights/flares/triangles recently and 
>	found that those big emergency triangles were by far the best. Much

One big downside about triangles is that you have to pick them up.
This means you can't stop at a scene, light up the scene, and leave
after things are secure.    Flares, at least, are disposable.  

Also, at least when I was younger and a hot dog, cops would often GIVE
you flares if you worked a scene, especially if you put some down.  Rule
of thumb...  five flares deployed should result in at least ten new
ones, and much nicer ones than you had before.  :-)

One cop just pushed the trunk release on his car and said, "Help
yourself."  [does anybody know what a 2135 key does?]

						-edg
-- 
Ed Greenberg 		| Home: +1 408 283 0511 | edg@netcom.com
P. O. Box 28618		| Work: +1 408 764 5305 | DoD#: 0357
San Jose, CA  95159	| Fax:  +1 408 764 5003 | KM6CG (ex WB2GOH) 
From: ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:18:25 GMT
Subject: Re: ERC (was: Get your feet ...)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

> Our instructor told us we would not being doing this one, the RSS budget
> was designed with a 5 year expected life for the range bikes.  Jumping
> 4x4's proved a bit too harsh on the bikes.  I could see some ERC
> riders thinking twice about this exercise on a $15K bike.
> 
> 	-David

So they want to try it for the first time on the road????

Shoot, make my obstacle EIGHT inches tall!!!

Long live D-P bikes :-)))


Ron
(R100GS or XT350)
From: ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Robert H. Yang)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: 1990 FZR600 tire recomendations?
Date: 27 Jul 92 22:46:55 -0500
Organization:  

In article <1992Jul27.091127.19979@CS.ORST.EDU>, saidra@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Raoul Said) writes:
> good sport tires that won't melt away in 1000 miles.  I also want a wider
> (bigger than 140/60) rear tire but am not sure how big I can go.  Any wisdom

	I'm told you can go up a size safely.  In your case, that would be
a 150/60, I believe.
-- 
Robert H. Yang               | DoD # 0593
Pittsburgh, PA, U.S.A.	     | '92 CBR600F2 "It hisses on snakes."
RYANG@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU | AMA # 642916

   "Society cannot change until persons change.  We have hope for the
    future because we have seen persons change." - from "I'm OK, You're OK"
From: hamiltoj@CS.ColoState.EDU ((n)<j>ay)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: two miles from home (was Re: Cops show- Motorcycle wreck)
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:31:40 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

>And discloses the interesting paradox:  If one is more likely to have
>an accident close to home, then why don't the insurance companies charge
>higher premiums for anyone who drives within 2 miles of home?

They already do!!!!

Jay Hamilton         xv1000 with more chrome than a Harley
hamiltoj@handel.cs.colostate.edu  Time To change the oil AGAIN?!?!?
From: weigl@sibelius.inria.fr (Konrad Weigl)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: RFD rec.motorcycles.harley (was: Re: Harley Softtail Classic Info Needed)
Date: 22 Jul 92 09:11:16 GMT
Organization: INRIA, Sophia-Antipolis (Fr)

In article <1992Jul20.192600.20731@i88.isc.com>, jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:

|> 
|> No, no.  I've got a CL450.  Which gives me something in common with a
|> lot of Harleys.  You see, the CL450 fuel tank holds about a gallon
|> less than the CB450's.    :')


Well, I don't know; here in Europe, 
there are  quite a few Harleys around with _real_ gas tanks, i.e. 15 to 20 liters;
So you can go roughly 300-400 km without a refill.

Konrad Weigl               Tel. +33 93 65 78 63
Projet Pastis              Fax  +33 93 65 76 43
INRIA                      email weigl@sophia.inria.fr
B.P. 93
06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex 
France
From: bradl@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Brad LaBroad)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Sticker campaign
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:32:30 GMT
Reply-To: bradl@tekig5.pen.tek.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Pokey Folk on Parade

In article <Brup5M.CwM@gtsi.com> rich@gtsi.com (Richard Lawrence) writes:
>Takes the wind out of your sail, doesn't it? I had some teeny bopper in a 
>parking lot a couple of weeks ago. Did the cager left, bike screech right

Prefer 'em young, do ya? Tastes vary, naturally, but I think this would
be more appropriate to alt.sex.public, eh?



--
Bradlee T. LaBroad                             read & write & ride & juggle
 bradl@tekig5.pen.tek.com                        It's a tough job but 
   GB_500 DoD#389                                somebody gets to do it.
From: ahle@anke.abo.fi (Peter Ahlskog DC)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Dead Sidestand switch
Date: 29 Jul 92 10:37:53 GMT
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland

In article <897@cybaswan.UUCP> eeharvey@cybaswan.UUCP (i t harvey) writes:

   I would imagine this switch is normally open (sidestand up) and
   when closed (sidestand down) grounds the ignition and the starter
   relay in the same way as the kill switch does. If there is only one
   wire going to it then it must work this way and you can test the
   wiring by grounding it to the frame/engine which should kill engine
   and starter. Is it a Kawasaki? They are notorious failure points,
   usually due to corrosion, they need to be well gooped. You are
   lucky it didn't fail 'safe'.

   -- 
   _______________________________________________________________________
     Ian Harvey, University College Swansea         Too old to rock'n'roll
     eeharvey@uk.ac.swan.pyr                              Too young to die
				 '79 GS750E                              


My ZXR 750 (ZX-7) has the same side-stand-kill-switch, lets you warm up,
lets you put in the first gear...runs fine, but..let the clutch out with a
gear engaged and the engine stops. I've wondered a couple a times "What the
hell is wrong..."  especially as you park the bike on place where you leave
the gear engaged and then you decide to move the bike just meter or so to
find a bit better place....and ofcourse you are in a hurry...ooops...the
monster died!?!?

ZZR-600 (ZX-6) has the same type of "kill-switch".

--
 Peter "Ale" Ahlskog                            e-mail: ahle@anke.abo.fi
 Computing Centre       Abo Akademi University  Phone:  +358-21-65*4472
     "It's green, it's mean, it's mine and it's eating them alive"
                        DoD: #138, ZXR 750 (Jolly)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: crpresto@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Charlie Preston)
Subject: Re: Get your feet on the GD pegs.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:27:06 GMT
Organization: Illinois State University

In article <1992Jul23.132451.13179@hemlock.cray.com> frankb@willow41.cray.com (Frank Barriuso) writes:
>  Someone once told me that the cops have an easy time deciding whether or
>not a motorcycle has come to a complete stop at a stop sign. If the rider
>had to put their feet down to keep from falling over then they did, if not
>then they didn't.  Is there any validity to this?
>
>      Frank
>
Not really. In IL a legal stop is supposed to be 3 seconds.  I know someone
who was demonstrated the skills tests when some people were being certified
for evaluators.  Some of the would be evaluators tried to ding her at the
stops for not putting her feet down but she had remained motionless for 3
seconds.  The instructors made sure that the evaluators graded her correctly.

Chas
for not putting her feet down


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: edg@netcom.com (Ed Greenberg)
Subject: Re: New Bike Financing Advice Sought.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 17:04:39 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa

Typically, bike shops finance through finance companies at shark rates,
banks offer better, and some banks offer MUCH BETTER, as you stated.
Frankly, if I could get only one single digit rate and all the rest were
double digits, I'd figure that the single digit one was the better
rate... but:

What makes a good loan:  

1.	Interest rate. Compare apples to apples and be sure you are
comparing ANNUAL PERCENTAGE RATES.  The law says that APR must be
quoted.  Use it. 

2.	Up front fees.  If there are any, you'll have to consider
whether they are worth paying.

3.	Back end fees.  If you pay the loan off early, how is the payoff
computed.  The worst loans are computed by the RULE of 78's.  If you see
a loan that mentions RULE OF 78's in the contract (hint, you must know
how to read to read a contract.  If you can't read, just match up the
letters R-U-L-E, etc., kinda like a human strcmp() or fgrep) then you
have a "last resort loan."  Why?  Because that method of figuring
finance charges results in maximum charges to bank and minimum advantage
for the customer.  There are many documented cases of people totalling
(or losing to theft) two or three year old cars and bikes, and finding
that the blue book doesn't cover the cost of retiring the loan.  Avoid
RULE OF 78's loans.

4. 	Who are you dealing with?  If you finance through a dealer, even
with a manufacturer name finance program, your loan can be sold to just
about any shark known to man.  Some species include
HOUSEHOLDUS-FINANCUS, NORWESTUS, AMERICANUS-GENERALIS, etc.  This can
make it difficult to deal with your loan company over errors, etc.,  If
you borrow from a local bank, chances are, you'll be paying that local
bank back, unless they go under, a not too uncommon happening these
days.  Good banks are probably easier to deal with. Credit unions are
best, of course.

5.	TANSTAAFL:  There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch!  If
Bank-One is offering a better deal than the rest, what's the catch?

Enjoy your new bike, and it's payment book. 
				-edg
-- 
Ed Greenberg 		| Home: +1 408 283 0511 | edg@netcom.com
P. O. Box 28618		| Work: +1 408 764 5305 | DoD#: 0357
San Jose, CA  95159	| Fax:  +1 408 764 5003 | KM6CG (ex WB2GOH)
From: joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Get a life!
Date: 25 Jul 92 04:40:38 GMT
Reply-To: joe@zx11.cactus.org
Distribution: world
Organization: NOT

laszlo@alumni.cs.colorado.edu
From: "Michael B. Smith" <MBS116@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>) writes:
>listen stupid you are going to a .EDU to learn how to read. untill you do
>so please don't bother me with email. in case you haven't figured it out:
>
>		I AM NOT THE KotL
>hello, I would like to be DoD #1428.

don't fret laszlo michael. I once emailed him NOT asking for a number
and he sent me the same tired old flame about how he wasn't the keeper
of the list. I pointed out that he should try using his brain(?) and
read the messages before blasting off canned flames. just ignore him like
I do.

and laszlo, take some of your own advice. when you can comprehend the
written word yourself, then you have earned the right flame others.
maybe someday I'll resend my mail just to see if you've advanced another
reading level yet.

-- 
Joe Senner -- joe@zx11.Cactus.Org                                   Austin, TX
       "Gleep is not in the zoo, nor is he a lion, tiger, or bear." 
                                         -- J.E. Quist
From: alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: My views of the RCR
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:46:43 GMT
Reply-To: alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming)
Organization: AT&T Tridom, Engineering

> Has anyone ever been stung by a bee or other stinging bug while riding?
> I've been stung twice while riding and bot at >55mph. I didn't think
> bees were smart enough to aim at an object going that fast.

I was riding one day, wearing a pair of jeans with a slight tear on the left
knee.  Not only could the wasp react quick enough to sting me, but managed to 
aim so he actually went inside the jeans and got me three or four times around
the knee.  The little bugger even managed to fly out the bottom of the jeans 
as I came to a stop so I didn't even get to return the favor.

Think Peace.
-- Alan (alanf@eng.tridom.com)  
AMA# 634578  DOD# being generated
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Get your feet on the GD pegs.
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:28:04 GMT

jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>In article <RAIBLE.92Jul22131402@wk43.nas.nasa.gov> raible@nas.nasa.gov writes:
>>In article <1992Jul22.133428.12028@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:

>>   Probably learned how to ride by watching TV. The other one I like is
>>   dweebs that make turns with their feet down. Hey, this ain't dirt! If
>>   that foot touches at 25-30mph, you're going be doing some sudden
>>   gymnastics.

>>That's nonsense.  I occasionally touch my feet down at speed to check
>>for gravel on the road, and just to get used to the sensation of my
>>boots touching.

Driving by braille? :-)  I once saw a guy using the drag-your-feet
method of stretching his legs get a sudden surprise. One foot hit
something and he kicked himself in the butt so hard he almost dismounted
the bike. The gymnastics were impressive, but he should have warmed up
before trying that particular stretching exercise. 

Even in the dirt I've found that it's generally better to keep your feet
on the pegs. Now if you're doing a nice slide through a corner, or
desperately trying to keep a bad situation from getting even worse, sure
put a foot down. But if you feel a regular need for more than two
contact patches, maybe you should consider a sidecar. Or a cage.

>There's a difference between experimenting with something you expect to
>experience (personally, I never intend to drag a foot on the ground)
>and dragging your feet because you have no self confidence in your ability
>to control the machine at low speed.

Right, this is the kind of rider I was talking about. You've seen the
sort, afraid the bike won't stay up by itself. When I see them I'm torn
between amusement at their technique, and a bit of morbid wondering at
how long it will be before they become another statistic.

>  One of the little skills
>that I always "challenge" myself with is immediately placing both feet
>on the pegs as soon as I'm in motion, then continuing across the
>intersection in a straight line (and the same direction I was pointed
>to begin with) with _no_ motion of the steering head.

>[And no-feet stops too]

Gee doesn't everyone do this? It makes putting around in town more
interesting. The DR seems easier to do feet-up stops on than the FJ.

>Try getting the feel of a continuous power application from stop to
>high gear, instead of short bursts of power accented by gear changes
>sometime; it's a pleasant, graceful feeling.

There was an article in one of the cycle magazines a few years back
about this. It was titled something like "You can shift, but can you
dance?"
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
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