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From: ws@cs.tu-berlin.de (Wolfgang Strunk)
Subject: QIC-02 driver ?
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 09:51:24 GMT

Does a QIC-02 driver for Linux exist ?
I have a QIC-02 controller and use it for backup with MS-DOS. Is there
a chance for cpio or tar to work with this card out of Linux ?
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From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: mailpak-1.3 ...
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 09:10:19 GMT

Tim Peoples (tep@engr.uark.edu) wrote:

: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp) writes:
: 
: >mailpak-1.3 will be uploaded to tsx-11 sometime this afternoon - my FTP site
: >crashed sometime Saturday morning and was down all weekend.  They just, uh,
: >"got it up". :)
: 
: So, Ed, does this fix the SIGHUP problem with uucico??

Grr...well, uh, sort of.  I hacked sys2.unx to ignore SIGHUP, and it *does*
work a bit more reliably, but it's not perfect.  I spoke to Ian about that,
and he replied that "traditional implementations ignore SIGHUP, but there
are advantages to paying attention to it: you notice a dropped line much
faster.  I'd rather fix any problems related to catching SIGHUP than start
ignoring it again."  But he also says that "if SIGHUP is ignored when uucico
starts up, it will continue to ignore it..." so perhaps the best solution
for now is to ignore signals then fire up uucico.  I'd rather see it fixed
in the code, but it will just break again when 1.04 comes out. :(

Traditional uucico ignores everything except signals 15 and 9 (and, of
course, 14).  I *like* that behavior, but that's just me...
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From: ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson)
Subject: GMAKE: Disregard my earlier request for help.
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 07:36:55 GMT

I finally managed to get GNU make to compile right.  The problems I
had before were a result of my using the wrong definitions in the
Makefile.  I found the right definitions and commented out about three 
declarations of sys_errlist and a couple undefined signals, and I'm in 
business again.  :-)

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From: kfogel@edvac.cs.oberlin.edu (Karl Fogel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Two suggestions .. comments welcome, please!
Date: 9 Sep 92 00:29:36 GMT
Distribution: comp.os.linux
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
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I had a couple of thoughts. I may not have any more for a while
because those about burned me out, so here they are:

	It would be a great help to those of use who don't have a disk
editor for someone to upload pre-edited bootimages to the directories
that now normally hold bootimages and/or rootimages.  We'd need four
more images, I guess: one for booting partition 1, one for 2, 3, and
partition 4. If the space can be spared on the ftp sites, it would be
a great help. I can't afford to buy a disk-editor myself, and I don't 
want to pirate one either. Is there anyone who owns a good editor who
would be willing to do this for future releases? (Yes, I'm always this
glib when volunteering other people :-)
	Also, a beginner's guide to kernel recompilations might be
nice, with a section on what exactly it entails, why it's useful, and
some common problems encountered in doing so. This is also a project
that I guess I'm asking someone else to do, since I don't have the 
necessary experience -- although I'd be more than glad to help in any
way I can. 
	Comments? 
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From: harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp)
Subject: S3 port of X?
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 08:54:49 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

I didn't see this mentioned in the list of projects currently under
development for Linux, but is anyone working on X for S3-based SVGA
boards?

For that matter, have the tech specs for the S3 chip been released?

I'd really rather not use my Stealth VRAM as a $250 VGA card, which
would be the net result when VGA X is done.  I'd be willing to work
with others to do this port, if the specs are available.

Thanks,
  Greg
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From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: 0.97 patchlevel 5 available
Date: 14 Sep 92 11:59:23 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

In article <1992Sep12.224241.5864@klaava.Helsinki.FI> torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI writes:

    - slightly edited <asm/io.h>: easily editable IO delay instructions. 
      The default delay-instruction is now a 'inb' from port 0x80: this
      should be a bit safer than the outb.

My packet drivers do a 'inb' from port 61h.  This is the keyboard
status port and so should be VERY safe.

      But you can easily change it to the "standard" two short jumps
      or whatever. 

Noooo!  Short jumps result in no delay on fast caching machines.  No,
you really have to have the inb instruction.  In fact, on slow chips
like the 8390 and fast busses like EISA, you need *two* inb instructions.

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com>  I'm proud to be a humble Quaker!
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From: duperval@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Duperval Laurent)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Ps problem
Date: 5 Sep 92 21:25:55 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Hi, I just compiled the new version of ps (0.976pl2) but I can't get it to
run.  I run ps -U and I get a "_main_memory_start variable not found" error or
something of that nature.  What am I doing wrong?

Thank you.
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From: usenet@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (USENET News System)
Subject: Re: QIC 40 / QIC 80 ?
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 11:11:34 GMT

Doug Evans (dje@cygnus.com) wrote:
: Steve Aliff (swaliff@afterlife.ncsc.mil) wrote:
: : In article <1992Sep04.152437.22327@kithrup.COM> dje@cygnus.com (Doug Evans) writes:
: : ...
: : >
: : >CMS wrote a device driver for SCO Unix and Xenix and it runs fine for me
: : >in both single user mode and full multitasking mode.
: : 
: : Is there a charge for it, or is it like their other software and
: : available on their BBS?
: : -- 
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: 
: He he he ... take a wild guess ... :-(
: 
: I paid 150 Loonies (that's Canadian dollars for those not fortunate enough to
: live in the Great White North ... but then again, I just moved away ... :-)
: 
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: dje@cygnus.com    |                           who needs disclaimers.

Well I tried hard to get these drivers - (they could'nt be that large that I
won't disassemble - though i hat xxx86 :-)) - but have you ever tried to get
software for hardware here in germany ? forget about it. My dealer told me
something about waiting a few weeks - I am actually waiting three months and
nothing happend :-(

Now I own a DJ10 on a machin running linux and can't use it - I hope my
streamer head won't get dulled by rust :-)

Can anyone send me these QIC specifications ? I'd like to spend a bit of
time in implementing my tape, but disassembling TAPE.EXE or CPBACKUP.EXE -
sorry, but there must be an easier way !!!
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From: wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can you access a virtual console directly?
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:08:00 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

kennu@mits.mdata.fi (Kenneth Falck) writes:
>It feels a bit dumb to use termcap-codes to handle the local output, if
>you know you'll be using this terminal from the virtual consoles only. 

How do you know it will be used on virtual consoles only? How do you
know what kind of virtual console it is? Is it VGA, CGA, XGA, Hercules,
something else? If you happen to know it is VGA, do you know it is
80x25? 80x50? 80x43? 100x40? 100x32? 132x25? 132x44? 40x25? Some
dimensions you've never even heard of? Do you even know that it will run
on Linux? Do you _really_ want to fall into the MS-DOS trap of having a
special driver for each and every piece of hardware that the program is
supposed to run on, instead of using the driver that already exists in
the operating system?

In a word: DON'T DO IT!  (Hm..., I think my old math teacher is making
mysterious sounds. :)  You'll save yourself a lot of work and a lot
grief, and your program will be much better (read: it works on other
people's machines as well).

[ Does anybody else get tired of MS-DOS programmers whose first (and
often enough only) thought is: ``How do I write directly to video
memory?'' Perhaps we'll see requests for adding TSR support into Linux
next. Urgh. ]

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Date: Tuesday, 8 Sep 1992 14:58:16 TUR
From: <E59392@TRMETU.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Image installing problem

Hi,
I have 0.96c linux SLS distribution , I compiled 0.97 over 0.96c I obtained
new Image, but how can I activate this new Image on hard disk or on floppy.
 I have seen a solution LILO and I got its new version lilo.5.tar.z
But I couldnt compile it since it requires 0.96c.pl1and gives compiling error
when compiling geometry.c .What can I do?,Can you help me.

Thanks in advance!
From: vds7789@aw2.fsl.ca.boeing.com (Vincent D. Skahan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: New stuff at tsx-11...
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:03:46 GMT
Organization: none

johnsonm@stolaf.edu (Michael K Johnson) writes:

>L/ALPHA/Xega/X386ega.tar
>	ega/vga X server

ooooh I'm interested now.

does this mean that I 'can' run X now on my cheapie
SVGA card ???

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From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Progress report?
Date: 7 Sep 92 17:32:50 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <1992Sep7.163715.8229@fwi.uva.nl> vesseur@fwi.uva.nl (Joep Vesseur) writes:
>torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds) writes:
>
>>Get 0.97.pl4 - it seems to be stable (knock wood: I haven't gotten any
>>reports on it yet), 
>
>c'mone linus, give us a break: it's out for only 2hrs 40mins :-)

"ONLY" 2hrs 40mins? WHAT? How much time do you want to thoroughly test
out a new version? Lazy bums (*)

Actually, the pl4 changes are small enough that I hope there are no new
bugs hiding in there, so pl4 should be as stable as pl3 - with the added
advantage of not having the truncate bug.  And I haven't gotten any bad
reactions to pl3 yet.  On the other hand, I guess most people haven't
had time to upgrade even that far... 

Even the pl3 patches, while big, were pretty simple: mostly cleanups and
some relatively straightforward swapping changes.  While bugs are always
possible, the pl3/4 changes aren't of the type that keeps me awake
nights wondering if they will work, and are likely to work without major
problems (famous last words...)

		Linus

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serious.  Although some problems (especially HD-driver-related) have in
fact been corrected with the help of beta-testers that were ready to
test out several new versions/day.  Unsung heroes, and all that... 
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From: bjones@cambria.columbus.oh.us (Bill Jones)
Subject: Random system lockups under 0.97pl1
Organization: Cambria Mail and News Gateway -- Columbus., OH
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:58:49 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

In the last 24 hours, I have experienced two system lockups.  The first time
it seemed to be due to one uucico (running about 5 hours) running into
another uucico (just starting and trying to talk to the same system -- I
thought that the lock files were supposed to prevent this).  This one just
trashed my news spool, thankfully isolated on one partition, and caused me
(and my feeds) to lose about 12 hours of news.

The second lockup occurred just five minutes ago under a heavy system load
-- I was running uucico, Cnews's newsrun, a file transfer under minicom,
elm, and two makes (no I don't enjoy the torture test, I just get bored
waiting for something to get finished and since it is so easy to do
something else under X11, I go and do it :-).  This time no partition was
corrupted except that efsck on /dev/hdb1 reports an incorrect free zone
count and refuses to fix it.  Since it's only off by three blocks, I'm not
going to worry about it unless it causes additional problems.

The question is, does anyone know why these lockups, especially the second
one, are occurring and what can be done to stop them?  Please don't tell me
not to run so many applications at once -- I already figured that one out --
but is there any way to figure out a way to prevent them from happening?
I will be upgrading to 0.97.4 this weekend, maybe tonight, and hope that
this will clear up some of the problems, but until I get a full backup made
(about 80 MB worth, I figure that's about six hours work) I feel like I'm
living on the edge.

Thanks,

Bill


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From: grimaldo@tokyo.seri.philips.nl (Emilio Grimaldo)
Subject: Linux install | help
Organization: Philips Semiconductors, The Netherlands 
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 09:06:51 GMT

Hi, I have a 486sx20 (20MHz) with 105 MB running DOS 5. I am seriously 
considering buying another (removable) hard disk to install Linux or any other
workable UNIX os (no partitions, I would use the whole HD). My question(s) are

  1. How much disk space will be used by LINUX? I need at least
	- C compiler
	- vi
	- awk
	- sed
	- capability to add more users (hook up PCs)
	- the source files of awk if possible.
	- anything else in the basic package (but everything is considered)

   2. How much RAM is suggested? I got 4MB.
   3. Where do I get a complete system? how many disks?

   Please send responses to my EMAIL address:
	   grimaldo@tokyo.sce.philips.nl

	   Thanks in advance, Emilio






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From: jablo@diku.dk (Jacob Martin Bohn Lorensen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: GCC 2.2.2d problems
Date: 7 Sep 92 20:19:49 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

>Recently I got GCC 2.2.2d.

>But when I try to compile the kernel, or any program
>cpp gets a signal 11 (SIGSEGV ?) and dumps core

Using -v option on gcc, I see that cpp is started with an "imacros"
option I cannot find docomented anywhere(?).
  /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.2.2d/cpp -lang-c -v \
     -imacros /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.2.2d/ \
     -undef ...... -D.... ...

And if I start cpp manually, leaving out the -imacros option, then
cpp works without problems.
How come I have this problem? And how do I configure gcc not to invoke
cpp with this -imacros option?

Mange venlige hilsener,
Jacob.

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From: hlu@poly2.eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Subject: Re: Which 3 button mice DO work with X11 ?
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 22:40:10 GMT

In article <HEIM.92Sep14184643@sally.peanuts.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de>, heim@peanuts.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Gerald Heim) writes:
|> 
|> Hi Netters
|> 
|> Any Moussystems compatible 3-button mouse does work with X.
|> Except the expensive ones. Why? They have no switch to
|> choose between ms-compatble 2-button mode to 3-button mode, but
|> do this by software (msdos-software, of course), normally
|> their standard-mode is ms (of course). Some friends of mine
|> have this Problem (3 Buttons, but can only use 2 of them).
|> 

You just have to know how to program it :-). My trick works fine with my
no-switch Moussystems compatible 3-button mouse. Drop me a note if you
are interested.

|> So my Tip:
|>  - Only buy a 3-button mouse if it has a switch!
|>  - Don't spend more than $20.
|> 
|> gjh
|> 

Yes. Don't spend more than $10.

|> 

H.J.
From: alsaggaf@athena.mit.edu (M. Saggaf)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: aXe3.1L1 (X-based Editor) Uploaded
Date: 14 Sep 92 08:35:10 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

I uploaded aXe3.1L1 (an X editor)  to sunsite and tsx-11. You can
access it right now at pub/Linux/X11/Incoming at sunsite (will be
moved to an appropriate location later). You need the new jump libc
4.1 to use it. Here is some more info:

This is Axe3.1L1. It's a nifty X-based editor that has many features and is
menu driven. This version [L1] is linked with the jump version of libc (4.1)
(but the static X libs since the shared X libs do not mix with shared/jump libs
of gcc2.2.2d+).  Version L2 will be linked with the shared X libs when x11v2.0
is released. I'm interested in any feedback. The original sources of xspread
can be found at export.lcs.mit.edu.

To install, just untar in /usr.

/M. Saggaf
alsaggaf@athena.mit.edu

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From: ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson)
Subject: Re: apologies, but I still need a little help
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 01:09:54 GMT

In article <186qb2INNai1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis) writes:

[ A bunch of stuff deleted. ]

>According to FAQ.GCC, README, and 2.2.2d.release, I have everything I need
>here in the rot dir. I put the kernel sources under /usr/src/linux and I even
>went ahead and uncompressed and untared 0.97pl1inc.tar.Z (aka0971inc.tar.Z on
>my drive) and put it in /usr/src/linux.
>
>Now the docs say execute the following command, which fails and I get
>the following error message.
>
>sh install.2.x -v 2.2.2d /usr/src/linux
>
>:command not found
>'yntax error near '()
>'nstall.2.x:5: 'kernelstuff()
>
>So now I ask, what do I have to do??? I want to install GCC the "right way"
>but it never works. The process I described in a previous post
>"WANT GCC??? IGNORE README AND FAQ. READ THIS FIRST!!!!" worked
>and gave me a compiler of unknown performance.

It would help if you had "make" and an editor.  Then you'd have a compiler
of "known" performance.

>SO NOW I ASK, NOW THAT I HAVE FOLLOWED ALL THE DOCS, WHAT SHOULD I DO?????
>I appreciate any info that you can send.

Are you using the right shell?  THAT is in the docs, too.  I use bash, with
a symbolic like to sh so I can use regular shell scripts.  BTW, zsh is in 
the GCC directory for a reason (hint, hint).  :-)


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From: dminer@mcs213e.cs.umr.edu (Dan Miner)
Subject: No patchlevel 3.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 21:54:29 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

	I've watched long enough and feel 97 is stable.  :)  (I'm
still paranoid from the 0.12 days. :)  I got the linux 0.97
and patches 1, 2, and 4.  I read about pl3 and decided to 
wait a little (~100K? for that one).  Now, I got pl4 and ready for
an all night compile (it takes over 5 hrs on my machine.. :(  )
I remembered something about a 0.97.2 release.  I got it and
downloaded and applied pl4.  If failed only on the main Makefile.
Simply statement (Version numbers).  I noticed the patch was
made around 0.97.3... Now I don't want a bomb after 5 hrs of compiling.
It there a pl3 or can I continue with 0.97.2 and pl4?

Thanks,
Dan
Hackers' Guide Coordinator/(making a better wish list :)
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From: Rob.Levin@f217.n3802.z1.fidonet.org (Rob Levin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Background processes not dying on parent exit
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 08:03:26 -0800

 PZ> Umm, I'm pretty sure your background processes are supposed to get
a
 PZ> SIGHUP when you log out, unless they are started with nohup or they
ignore
 PZ> the SIGHUP signal. At least it works that way on my SVR3 system
here at
 PZ> work. Is this different under POSIX? BSD?

SIGHUP is not a POSIX.1-defined signal.  The other POSIX standards are
presently draft standards, but perhaps someone else can shed some
light....


Rob L.


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