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From: jeffs@almaden.ibm.com (Jeff Schneiter)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: How to kill an article?
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:51:42 GMT
Reply-To: jeffs@almaden.ibm.com (Jeff Schneiter)
Organization: IBM Almaden Research Center


I need to cancel an article that I posted yesterday.
I found the article number, then tried to use 'C', but
it said that I can not cancel someone else's article.

Could it be because I am on an X-station, while it posts
from the server? Or that my mail address is jeffs@almaden...
while the server is jeffs@psycho.almaden... and my X-station
is jeffs@ministry.almaden...???

 
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From: rjt@softin.lonestar.org (Richard Threlkeld)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: What are .Z suffixed files & can I copy read-only files?
Keywords: .z ftp read-only
Date: 3 Oct 92 03:22:38 GMT
Organization: Software Innovation, Arlington, Tx

groggy@unixg.ubc.ca (Clive J Grogono) writes:

> 
> These are probably faqs listed somewhere or other, but can someone tell me
> what .Z suffixed files are, and whether or not one can "get" read-only
> files at ftp sites and if not what are they doing there?

xxx.Z is a file compressed with the Unix compress command.  You
use the uncompress command to return the file to xxx.  There are 
a number of MS-DOS versions (including the commercial MKS-Toolkit 
version) if you are of that persuasion.
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (J Lee Jaap)
Subject: Re: Length of .newsrc
Reply-To: J Lee Jaap <J.L.Jaap@larc.nasa.gov>
Organization: AS&M Inc
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:52:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.194455.423@bmers145.bnr.ca> stud7b43@bmerh926.uucp (Elaine Bushnik) writes:
	   I have a problem which I'm guessing others have come across too. 
   Periodically, when I enter 'rn', I am told that my .newsrc file is too
   long, and exits me. To get around this, I delete a substantial number
   of lines from the .newsrc file. This is fine, but a day or two later,
   I'm asked if I want all these newsgroups back...which I don't...and
   if I type my "n"'s too quickly I get a SIGSEV (or something like that)
   error. The result is that I painfully have to type 'n' for hundreds
   of newsgroups.

	   If anyone has any solutions or suggestions, it would be
   appreciated.

I believe this is a known bug with ancient versions of newsreaders
(hardcoding a maximum number of lines for .newsrc).  The solution
is to upgrade.  I don't know where to get the latest version, but
check the FAQ for news.software.readers.

Good luck.
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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: corson@netcom.com (Information Dynamics)
Subject: Looking for gateway in Ohio
Followup-To: jth@infodyn.com
Summary: Gateway needed
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: us
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 05:20:04 GMT


I have a client in Urbana, Ohio (north of Springfield, about half way
between Dayton and Columbus) who would like to find  someone who can
provide e-mail and a full news feed via UUCP.

If you can provide any assistance in this search, please respond via
e-mail to jth@infodyn.com.  Many thanks.

            ---------------------------------------------
            jth@infodyn.com          Information Dynamics
                                     Saratoga, California
            ---------------------------------------------


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From: Helge.Kosuch@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Helge Kosuch)
Subject: How to get the UUENCODED programms in my mail uudecoded??
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 11:45:13 GMT

Hello,

Is there an easy way of getting uuencoded programs into a real program
again easily??

Does the ELM have an corresponding feature.

Just saving and uudecoding is very unconvinient, because each program
is many files. ANd the files aren't even in the right order.

Thanx,
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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: J024330@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: mail between Internet and Prodigy
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 14:08:17 GMT

My family uses Prodigy.  In a recent newsletter to subscribers, it was stated
that November is a target date for E-Mail to internet.  It will, however, come
with a price (ie, postage due on mail from internet).  I'm looking forward to
this extra service so my wife can write me at work.  I'm not sure about access
to usenet at this time though.
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: wwong@psych.toronto.edu (William Wong)
Subject: binaries
Organization: Department of Psychology, University of Toronto
Distribution: ont
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 20:49:45 GMT

I have just started reading the network news and I saw some messages in
some .binaries newsgroups.  From what I can gather, these are files of some
sort.  Can anyone please tell me how to make them into files?

                                                  Thanks,

                                                  William Wong.
From: ai118@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Zidonis)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: FTP List with Files ?
Date: 5 Oct 1992 13:02:56 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ai118@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Zidonis)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, ricky@mindvox.phantom.com (Richard Velez) says:

>Can anyone tell me where I could a list of all the FTP which offers Files 
>for downloading ??. Thanks...
>
>===============================================================
> Richard Velez                      Electronic Mail
> South Bronx, Homeboy!               Richard Velez - 1:278/712
> Born and Raise in New York City     Ricky@MindVox.Phantom.Com
>===============================================================
>

news.answers
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RAZ     ai118@cleveland.freenet.edu
From: todd.paulus%theweb@meaddata.com (Todd Paulus) 
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: CompuServe and Intern
Date: 4 Oct 92 13:32:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Web BBS 1-513-436-9011 6 Lines 1200 News groups 50,000 files!
Reply-To: todd.paulus%theweb@meaddata.com (Todd Paulus) 

MESM.Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
    .From: mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S. Morris)
    .Subject: Re: CompuServe and Internet Access
    .Message-ID: <796n!1d.mesm@netcom.com>
    .Date: Tue, 22 Sep 92 02:38:18 GMT

MESM.ropella@engcon.marshall.ltv.com (GEROPELLA) writes:
    .: Can anyone out there give me a hint as to where to look for
    .: information on CompuServe?  e.g. Can they provide internet
    .: access?  What kind of services do they offer?  Etc.
    .:

I am not a CIS subscriber, so cannot provide you with specific contacts;
however, I do know that CIS does not provide ACCESS to INTERNET, but you
CAN address a message to a specific address in INTERNET.  I have
communicated with CIS members more than once.  If you have someone's CIS
address, e.g. 12345,678, then address your message within INTERNET "TO:
12345.678&compuserve.com".  All the ususal rules apply, of course.  The
TO, etc. must be in the first line, the first character position, and
there must be a blank line after the TO line.  CIS members can send mail
back to you in INTERNET, but I forget the specific syntax.

Why would you want to pay those exorbitant CIS fees to get little
service, after you have experienced INTERNET?

Regards,
Todd

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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: adamg@eff.org (Adam Gaffin)
Subject: Newsgroup.names
Originator: adamg@eff.org
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 02:40:55 GMT

How did the hierarchary convention of naming newsgroups come about.  And
why periods (OK, dots) and not, say, dashes?  

Many thanks!

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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: VMS NEWS 6.0
From: fogal_te@cs0.lamar.edu
Date: 2 Oct 92 02:13:48 CST


Does anybody out there know of, or have, a file that lists the commands
that a user can enter at the NEWS> prompt for VMS NEWS 6.0?

I am in desperate need since our system is a new installation and the 
HELP command at the NEWS> prompt simply dosen't work.

Please address replies, or send the file to:
    Fogal_TE@cs1.lamar.edu

Thanks.
From: ai118@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Zidonis)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: What are .Z suffixed files & can I copy read-only files?
Date: 29 Sep 1992 13:33:43 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ai118@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Zidonis)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, groggy@unixg.ubc.ca (Clive J Grogono) says:

>
>These are probably faqs listed somewhere or other, but can someone tell me
>what .Z suffixed files are, and whether or not one can "get" read-only
>files at ftp sites and if not what are they doing there?
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Clive Grogono
>
>groggy@unixg.ubc.ca
>


The .Z suffix indicates a compressed file (usually compressed with a 
file named ...uh, "compress."  The file is uncompressed with a file
named "uncompress."

Typically this is a UNIX command
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RAZ     ai118@cleveland.freenet.edu
From: hartman@ulogic.UUCP (Richard M. Hartman)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: thanks...my next question is...
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:41:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: ulogic.332
Organization: negligable

If your company provides anonymous accounts then I presume that
the client's name is not part of the account name nor included
in the part of the /etc/passwd file that is usually filled in
with the real name (and why my name appears in the header for
this article). 

If you don't make the person's real name available to the OS
then nobody will know it unless they actually sign their article
w/ their real name.

There should NOT be, however, any reason for us to not know
their account name (thx1138@access.digex.com) in order to
properly respond to what they say -- anonymous posting as
you have outlined is essentially a one-way wall behind which
people can take potshots at whatever strikes their fancy
w/o having to listen to any responses.

If you are truly worried you could establish an anonymous
posting service on your own machine -- people would mail
you the article they want posted and the newsgroup they
want to post it to and YOU would post it for them.  Similar
services are already offered for specific groups.  HOWEVER
a "responsible" implementation of such a service would provide
a mechanism by which responses would be redirected back to
the original article submitter.  As I mentioned in the
previous paragraph this can be accomplished much more simply
and w/ less work to you if you simply select non-significant
account names & leave personal information out of the account
entry.

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From: ianm@icsbelf.co.uk (Ian Moran)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: FTP available to AmigaDOS?
Date: 6 Oct 92 09:20:22 GMT
Organization: ICS Computing Group Ltd., Belfast
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Bob Proffitt (bob@bpamiga.pegasus.com) wrote:
: Is software available for AmigaDOS to allow me to FTP files to my
: Amiga?
: 
: I am currently using AmigaUUCP v1.16d.	I have been told, "You are
: welcome to connect and FTP files.", from a local archive.  I need soft-
: ware and guidance to proceed.

You need a package called AmigaNOS. This allows SLIP connections over
a dial up line. The FAQ for AmigaNOS is currently in news.answers.

Regards

 Ian
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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: agent86@netcom.com (Michael McBride)
Subject: Re: binaries
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: ont
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 00:04:39 GMT

In article <BvGnHt.AsA@psych.toronto.edu> wwong@psych.toronto.edu (William Wong) writes:
>I have just started reading the network news and I saw some messages in
>some .binaries newsgroups.  From what I can gather, these are files of some
>sort.  Can anyone please tell me how to make them into files?

	If you are using trn as a newreader it is fairly simple (if you use 
some other reader I am sure it is equally simple, but the command may be 
different).
	Do this:
	get into the thread selector
	select the file (press the corresponding letter)
		by file I mean the news post
	type :e directory  (where directory= where you want the file to go)
		(the simplest is :e . or :e ~/  )
	the file will automatically uudecode into the binary :)

Note: if the file is in multiple parts you should select all the parts
	before doing the :e .  command.

Note2:  if the file is in parts AND out of order (yuck) then you can select
	the first part then do :e . then do the J command, then select part
	2 and do the :e . then do the J again and so on.

so simple even *I* could do it.  ;)

If you are using someother reader I would hazard a guess that the commands
are almost identical.

	Good luck!
>                                                  Thanks,
						-no problem-

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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: mgflax@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Marshall G. Flax)
Subject: Re: .arc
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 01:05:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.071253.19057@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> tgh3_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Timothy Gerald Harrnacker) writes:
>How do I use a file that has the suffix .arc?

The comp.compression FAQ: in comp.compression, news.answers, and by FTP:
	rtfm.mit.edu:/pub/usenet/news.answers/
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From: ai118@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Zidonis)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Computer book advice wanted...
Date: 29 Sep 1992 13:18:42 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ai118@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Zidonis)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, sstrong@kean.ucs.mun.ca () says:

>Can someone point me to some good nonfiction computer type books.  I am 
>interested in stories/biographies(sp?)/etc...
>The ones I have are:
>
>The Cukoo's Egg     By Stoll (sorry about the spelling...)
>Accendental Empires  By Cringley  (again spelling ...)
>Hard Drive           By _I forget!_
>The Whole Internet   (Still on order ...)
>
>Another book I have read is 'A few Good Men from UNIVAC' but I have lost 
>the book.
>
>These are the types of books I like.  Does anyone have any sugestions on 
>my next purchase.  New books are ok but I like the old ones also.
>
>BTW (If anyone has one to sell drop me some email with the title, condition,
> and a brief summary)
>Thanks.
>Steve Strong
>-- 
>sstrong@kean.ucs.mun.ca
>Electrical Engineering, Memorial University of Newfoundland
>


I enjoyed the following:  "The Soul of a New Machine," by Tracy Kidder

In the realm of fiction, the absolute best I've read is:  "The
Adolescence of P-1."  I don't recall the author, but the book is much, 
much fun -- especially for a net user.

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From: ted.jensen@spacebbs.com (Ted Jensen)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Help needed with mirror
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:03:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: spacebbs.2154.924.uupcb
Reply-To: ted.jensen@spacebbs.com (Ted Jensen)
Distribution: world
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193



bell@cs.tamu.edu (Will Bell) writes:

> Ted,
> Timo's message isn't very clear;  maybe I can help out a bit.

Will-
    Thanks for your response!

    I attempted to answer your e-mail message to me by private
e-mail but was unsuccessful.  The problem I am having appears to
be similar to the one I am having in contacting
wuarchive.wustl.edu in that the mail delivery subsystem kicks it
back.  To aid you in understanding what is happening, this is
what I get back:

-------
>Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 17:48:43 -0700
>From: fernwood!MAILER-DAEMON (Mail Delivery Subsystem)
>Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown
>To: spacebbs!ted.jensen

>   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
>421 cs.tamu.edu (tcp)... Deferred: Address family not supported
>by protocol family
>554 bell@cs.tamu.edu... 550 Host unknown (Valid name but no A or MX):
>Address family not supported by protocol family

>   ----- Recipients of this delivery -----
>bell@cs.tamu.edu (bounced)

>   ----- Unsent message follows -----
>Received: by fernwood.mpk.ca.us; id AA23334; Sun, 4 Oct 92 16:53:35 -0700
>To: bell@cs.tamu.edu
>Subject: ?????????
>From: ted.jensen@spacebbs.com (Ted Jensen)
>Message-Id: <4286.9.uupcb@spacebbs.com>
>Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 16:45:00 -0800
>Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193
>Reply-To: ted.jensen@spacebbs.com (Ted Jensen)
--------
 ... followed by my message to you .....

In short, I don't understand what is happening.  What does "Valid
name but no A or MX" mean?  What does "Address family not
supported by protocol family" mean?

As you may recall, I am not tied directly into The Internet but
am accessing UseNet from a PC at home via a commercial BBS which
also is not tied directly into The Internet.  Could this be the
problem?

Ted Jensen   Redwood City, Calif.


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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: jking@mindvox.phantom.com (Joe King)
Subject: Re: Computer book advice wanted...
Organization: [Phantom Access] / the MindVox system
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:43:53 GMT

You might enjoy Hackers:Heroes of the Computer Revolution (Steve Levy) and
Soul of a New Machine (Tracy Kidder); Digital Deli (Steve Ditlea, et al)
is another oldie but goodie.

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From: marc@r-node.gts.org (Marc Fournier - Sys Admin)
Subject: Re: Finding a News/Mail Feed?
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organzation
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1992 01:39:33 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.164301.1293@summa4.mv.com> efs@summa4.mv.com (Ed Sinamark) writes:
>What is the easiest way to find out from whom in any particular area of 
>the country you could dial up with a modem and get mail and news.  I do
>not mean calling a BBS that lets you get mail and read news.  Several
>people I know with PC's in various parts of the country want to run
>something like UUPC and be able to get e-mail and news groups.  How do
>you go about knowning who to call to buy some access time?  Any infomration
>would be appreciated.  Thanks
>
	
	Two ways that I know of:

	Post detailing cities or areas of interest for a feed

	Check the Maps (that's how I did all my feeds)

Marc
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From: Jaco.Eygelaar@p53.f714.n7102.z5.fidonet.org (Jaco Eygelaar)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Telix
Date: 29 Sep 92 00:54:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: catpe.2495.2AC9F115
Organization: FidoNet node 5:7102/714.53 - The Mutant Pencil's, CT

Hello All!

I recently got a new Telix (v 3.15) and I have a small problem.

When I dial  a  Number,  say 99-7102 ,  The  modem  only dials up to the 99 , it does'nt dial through any "-" or "( )".

Can someone please tell me what the problem is?

Jaco

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From: "richard velez" <richard.velez@execnet.com>
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: ftp !
Date: 25 Sep 92 16:41:48 EST
Reply-To: "richard velez" <richard.velez@execnet.com>
Distribution: news
Organization: Executive Networks Information

 Is there a listserv that carrys a help file on the FTP, I'm looking to get a 
file or text file, and dont know what to do. Thanks.

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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Help with NEWS
From: fogal_te@cs1.lamar.edu
Date: 26 Sep 92 18:51:35 CST




Hello, I am a new user of Internet, and am on a new Installation of NEWS as
well.  The help file is not working.  My question: is there a file I can
FTP, have mailed to me, or something that will describe the commands
I can issue at the NEWS prompt.

I'm running on a DEC VAX under VMS.   Any help would be appreciated.

And, if someones already sitting on this file, just e-mail it to me at

FOGAL_TE@cs1.lamar.edu

Thanks in advance.


Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: king@rtsg.mot.com (Steven King, Software Archaeologist)
Subject: Re: Mail from Internet to Prodigy?
Reply-To: king@rtsg.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:45:50 GMT

mdw@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh) publicly declared:
>I could have sworn there was a way to send e-mail from the internet
>to Prodigy and back, but my copy (Jul 92) Internetwork Mailing
>Guide makes no mention of this. Is there a mechanism for this?
>Thanks.

No.  At this time there's no way to email between Prodigy and the
Internet.  Prodigy is supposed to be working on a way to do this, but I
don't know the timeframe they're shooting for.

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