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From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Rogue's eyes (was Re: XMEN:TAS-load of crap)
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:35:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.Bxs43q.B15
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <1992Nov15.002346.22178@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu
.edu (August Paul Yang) writes:
>>You want something to talk about reharding Rogue...how about X-Men Annual
>>#9, when Nightcrawler wraps his tail around Cyclops and kisses Rogue, so
>>Rogue _absorbs both of their powers!_
>>Since when was she able to do this?
>
>Hurm.  Musta missed this first time around.
>In any case,  I was led to believe that Rouge could _always_ do this.

I am at a loss to see where this idea came from, since the only time
Rogue has ever done this particular stunt was in the Asgard Annual.

Very odd... hmm...

Oh, well.
-- 
David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - "I have a pullchain in my head." -- RIII
My mind is a jackal.--Richard Darwin // What was the question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
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From: visser@convex.com (Lance Visser)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Latest X-cutioner isuess (*spoilers*)
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:41:37 GMT
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In <Qf3zEs_00iV3I30ld0@andrew.cmu.edu> "Michael J. Keating" <mk56+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

+>>X-Factor:  In the past I've been fairly neutral to Jae Lee's art, but I really
+>>disliked it in this issue, especially at the beginning.  I got this feeling
+>>that the art wasn't complete.  

+>On the contrary, I thought that the art in X-Factor was really great and
+>original.  It showed some ingenuity and was refreshing.  

	The problem with the art was that it was not "complete" art.  It
was the same sort of "cheat" art that Leifeld thrives on.  Its much easier
to draw characters in free space than to draw complete pictures with full
composition.


	I will say that Jaw Lee's art on the current issue is much better
than any of the previous issues of x-factor he has done.
From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: NAM thread moved to racm
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:33:11 GMT
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Distribution: usa
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

The NAM comic certainly belongs more in racm than in xbooks. The closest
thing we've got here to NAM was Forge's involvement with his gang and
the demons.

I moved it to racm already, so they can enjoy it.

-- 
David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - "I have a pullchain in my head." -- RIII
My mind is a jackal.--Richard Darwin // What was the question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER 2099)
Subject: Re: Maybe, just maybe there is method to the madness
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 20:55:27 GMT

re: MasterMold/Nimrod--what happened

  According to Claremont, MM/N blew up RIGHT BEFORE entering the Siege Perilous.
HE said they destroyed themselves 'cause of the whole "I am now a mutant/I must 
kill all mutants" thing.

Bob Harras didn't realizes this when he read the issue. >sigh<

So If they show up again is anybody's guess.

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From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Subject: Rogue's Eyes... AGAIN?
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 07:59:33 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


Great, plains goes goofy just as I get set up to respond to the latest
"Rogue's eyes change color" claim. So, I'm forced to actually use Pnews,
instead of just responding to previous threads, my usual mode of attack.

I don't suppose the gentleman who made the claim has any evidence to
support him? (Issue numbers, for instance, would be nice). I also
accept interviews (where corroborated) with Claremont, since, as a North
Dakotan, I don't get the opportunities to talk to pros without serious
investment in time and travel to get to cons, and thus don't have access
to a lot of fan-culture knowledge.

Otherwise, I'm gonna keep denying this urban legend until you all are
brainwashed.

"So many discos, so little time." --Richard Darwin

-- 
David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - "I have a pullchain in my head." -- RIII
My mind is a jackal.--Richard Darwin // What was the question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
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From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Subject: Re: Stryfe
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 04:53:18 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <19309@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> cs30f189@hamlet.ucdavis.edu writes:
>Who is this character Stryfe anyway?  Is he Cable's twin or something?

Short answer:  No one knows yet. Most likely will be revealed to be
Cyclops' son, mutation of his son, alternate-world version of his son,
alternate-timeline-alternate-world version of the mutation of his son, or
clone of any of the above.

Long answer:  Look around for about half the threads on this group.

"You ask me, your name makes better sense as Festyr." -- Richard Darwin
-- 
David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - "I have a pullchain in my head." -- RIII
My mind is a jackal.--Richard Darwin // What was the question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
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From: cjp53999@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Cory James Padfield)
Subject: Kitty'age: the real answer
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:15:39 GMT

   Okay, from the newest Excalibur special released around August, when
   she fights the young Jean Grey, the narrative sez, I quote, "....
   can't be older than, WHAT, sixteen?! MAX. Since that came out in 
   August, my money is on sixteen.    
    




    Regards,
    Cory Padfield
    :wq

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From: il@bambam.u.washington.edu (Il Hwan Oh)
Subject: Re: Casting and X-Men movie
Reply-To: iho@cac.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington, Tacoma
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:36:03 GMT

"Toby Rockwell" <p00220@psilink.com> writes:
>FROM:   Patrick Chester <wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
> > kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER) writes:

> >]>Wolverine  - Mel Gibson
> >]I like DeNiro for the part myself
> Either Eastwood or Jack Nicholson would be good, they have the right 
> attitude bub.

I've always thought that Wolverine was modeled after Eastwood characters.
In fact, there is one of those "poster art" things that makes him look
just like Clint, complete with a cigarette.

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From: wbe@bbn.com (Winston Edmond)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Wolverine 64-->65: is there an issue missing?
Date: 16 Nov 92 11:42:10 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman, Inc., Cambridge, MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: crystal.bbn.com


   What happened to Wolverine #64 1/2?  :-)  The story was going along fine
up through the end of issue 64 where it said "TO BE CONTINUED", but there's
such a big jump from Ferro's island (near Seattle) at the end of #64 to the
mansion in #65 that I can't help wonder if I missed an issue somewhere.
Did I?
 -WBE
From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Rogue's eyes (was Re: XMEN:TAS-load of crap)
Date: 18 Nov 92 00:23:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.BxvyEw.J5s
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

August Paul Yang and I continue our in-depth discussion:

>>> & > APY

>> DRH

>>>In any case,  I was led to believe that Rouge could _always_ do this.
>>
>>I am at a loss to see where this idea came from, since the only time
>>Rogue has ever done this particular stunt was in the Asgard Annual.
>Well, the fact that Nightcrawler did it without much hesitation was a bit
>of a hint.  Since he's not an idiot, I doubt he's try anything truly chancey
>when his friends lives are at stake.  Besides, Like I said before, it would
>be *very* rare times when she could actually prefrom this power stunt.

Yeah, NC intitiated it, which is equally odd because, like I've said, she's
never shown the capability to do this in any other appearance. Having
characters act on information of that sort which is not known by the audience
comes close to deus ex machina, one of the flaws which Claremont's writing
rarely succumbs to.

I still hold that it is Claremont showing his usual concern for continuity,
and that the best in-MU explanation is that refreshing Asgardian air.

>August Paul Yang *hates* Jim Lee's writing

Careful, August! You're one half the way to the dreaded Dave Position!

-- 
David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - "I have a pullchain in my head." -- RIII
My mind is a jackal.--Richard Darwin // What was the question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
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From: royd@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Roy Daniel)
Subject: X-Cutionner's song
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:47:27 GMT

Since, The X-C. S. is getting to an end, I must say that I am very disappointed
by it.

The story to date would have fitted in two, maybe three books in all, in lieu of
those 12 parts.

I mean, what happened to date? 

1) We get hints to the connection beetween Nathan and Stryfe so big that a blind man in a black painted room at midnight would have seen;
2) Professor X. gets shot; we all know he will get better, since Apocalypse will certainly heal him. For all I know, this techno-virus is nonsense; after all,
 isn't the goal of an assasination to kill the target? A normal slug would have  done the trick.
3) X-Force gets arrested; they try as best as they can to convince everybody of
 their innocence for two issues. Cable, when met by Wolverine and Bishop, does 
 the trick in two pages.
4) We get to see the incredible talent (read on a sarcastic tone) of Scott 
  Lobdell.

One good point: Peter David was still writing his part (I don't want anybody
else to touch Guido, please, PAD!); I look foward to the end of this X-Over
and the return to the usual X-Factor mayhem.

If anybody out there still like the X-Men, please, let me know! I'm about to
stop buying them, and I want to be sure wether or not I'm making a big mistake.



Seeya.


Daniel Roy,
of the "Voyageurs sans Permis"
From: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Cyclops and Recoil?
Date: 15 Nov 92 21:26:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: ut-emx.83697
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

I apologize... I've missed the original post and just caught this
little smidgen (no stated author...)

>>Welll...in any of those cases, there really _is_ recoil, they just get
>>around it.  Recoilless rifles vent gases out the back to balance, so
>>Scott would have to fire a beam out of the back of his head at the same
>>time he shot one out of his eyes to use this.
>
So pardon me if I cover any rehashed material here, but recoil only applies
to KINETIC energy.  A change in mass MUST occur.  

Scott's optic blasts are... well... NOT kinetic.  No kinetic energy,
no recoil.  Simple as that.


PS:  Just what the blazes are these people supposedly firing, anyway?!?
	The only mutant I can account for (without thinking too hard) is 
	Havok (absorbing/using cosmic radiation or something like that...)

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From: p0g3@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Chris G. Galbraith)
Subject: Re: Wolverine #65: the best yet! (SPOILERS)
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:46:03 GMT

In his article, royd@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Roy Daniel) writes:
>Hey! I have to admit that Hama made a lot of mistakes this issue, but I think
>that the most important thing about this issue is character developpement.
>
>The problem with Marvel is that if they start a new character and it fails to 
>sell, they either drop it or forget it. On the other hand, if a character sells
>well, it is in their interest not to change him, since they would only risk to
>loose customers.
>
[bits and pieces deleted]
>
>Of course, issue #65 is not a major change in Wolverine's way of life, but still it explores his way of thinking that is something apart from: "I am the best
>at what I do." Waddaya think?
>
>Daniel Roy,
>of the "Voyageurs sans Permis"
>

   I too was amazed to see someone add some character and personal feelings
to Wolverine.  A double-thumbs up to Larry Hama, who I have been reading since
early G.I. Joe (a looooong time ago :^) ), and to the new, currently, Wolverine
artist, Mark Texeira.

   Larry has been slowly but surely adding to Logan's character but with this
issue, he takes a big leap forward.  For once (?) we see Logan actually sit
down with Jean and explains how he _FEELS_ about what has been happening to
him emotionally!!  I was stunned, I was shocked, I was beside myself with
utter disbelief, ad nausium, ad nausium (sp?).

   I will admit that there does seem to be an issue missing as others have 
pointed out.  It makes this issue seem like a "filler" almost.  And I also
agree that it was a little hard to swollow that SHIELD just left Wolvie at
the cabin and let him find his way home from the "secret location" of the 
cabin.  Oh well, the ART more than made up for these problems.  Which mean...

   _YES_, _YES_, _YES, TEX is back!!!!  What can I say, I missed him after
he left Ghost Rider. :^) He seems to draw the chest area a little too big,
but I could get used to it after an issue or two.  His style doesn't fit the
book yet, but I don't care, TEX is back!!

   Well, enough of me, let's return to your reglarly scheduled posting.
C-Ya.
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From: joshm@crash.cts.com (Josh Mercer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Kitty's Age (was: a few more movie cast ideas)
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:23:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: crash.joshm.722132582
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA

In <1992Nov18.110616.29019@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jay Elmore) writes:

>In article <1992Nov17.195352.23904@gtech.com> caw@gtech.com (Christopher A. White) writes:
>>In article <19004.2b02773d@ecs.umass.edu> you write:
>>>Any way, I agree with the poster who said Gabrielle Cartersis (although,
>>>I don't know if she changed her name now that she's married) who
>>>plays Andrea Zuckerman on 90210 should play Kitty.  If people can
>>>believe a 30 year old actress playing an 18 year old on TV, then
>>>they can believe the same thing in the movies (does Kitty even have an age?)
>>
>>Last time I checked she got (yet another) 14th Birthday party from 
>>Saturyn (disguised as Courtney Ross). Or was it a 15th? Either way, the
>>girl is a long way from 18. She's also Jewish, so we'd want to keep
>>that in mind when selecting an actress (NO to Kathy Ireland).
>>
>>What's the bottom line on her age - 14 or 15?

>Adding more fuel to the confusion, I thought the party that Courtney threw
>was her "sweet sixteen"...

>As for a Jewish actress to play Kitty...there is no substitute.

>It HAS to be Barbara Streisand!    :D

>Jay (=
Kitty is 15.  Courtney/Saturnyne made a reference to Kitty just getting through
the fifteenth and hoping to make the sixteenth all it could be, but the
birthday, complete with the controversial (in some quarters) Kitty-licking
frosting-from-Courtney's-finger-saying-"I'm all yours"-scene was her 15th.

Her aging approximately eighteen months in twelve years of existance makes
her slightly better off than say, Franklin Richards...
From: mikecap@newton.WPI.EDU (Michael Vince Caprio Jr)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Replying to two articles at once
Date: 20 Nov 1992 22:03:38 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
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I'm going to jump out on a limb and reply to two different posts at the same
time - to save traffic (Hee hee :0)...

First off, in response to X-cutioner's Song, X-force is being held for evading
arrest earlier (from Weapon Prime) and stealing and destroying government 
property (the SHEILD cruiser), at least that's my guess.  Of course, the feds
have always made deals with the X-men in the past, so they'll get off soon.

Second, In response to Wolverine #65, Having two genetic structures to compare
is more valuable than one - then Ferro could see what's different, what's the
same, etc.  Both have the age-slowing gene, but not the same basic structure,
so having one or both isn't really the point.  I also think you're not giving
Hama any credit at all - granted, he doesn't deserve much, but he's not a fool,
and neither am I.  Silverfox is not dead.  I really thought to myself at the 
end of the book "waitaminute, why are they at the cabin?  why is he burying
Silverfox - when did they get the body?"  My guess is, SHIELD showed up at the
island, found everybody twitching on the floor in a state of mindf**k, except 
for Sabretooth who left with Ferro, and took Silverfox.  They woke the rest up,
told them she was dead, and the rest of the book happened.

BTW, Sabretooth just guest-starred in Darkhold, looking good and nasty as ever.

Mike C. (Zen)

-- 
"Be what you would seem to be - or, if you'd like it put more simply - Never
 imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that
 what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been
 would have appeared to them to be otherwise."  -- Lewis Carrol
From: il@bambam.u.washington.edu (Il Hwan Oh)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Kitty's Age (was: a few more movie cast ideas)
Date: 19 Nov 92 04:00:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov19.040017.22756
Reply-To: iho@cac.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington, Tacoma

bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:
> iho@cac.washington.edu writes:
> >How about Wynona Rider for this part?  Anybody remember her in
> >_Real_Genius_?
> 
> Obscure Trivia Lad doesn't.  Obscure Trivia Lad believes that the reason
> he doesn't remember this is because Wynona Rider wasn't in Real Genius.
> You might be either confusing an actress or confusing a movie here.

Okay, my memory may be playing tricks with me since it's been several
years since I've seen the movie.

> Obscure Trivia Lad also can't picture Wynona Rider as Kitty.  She just
> doesn't seem to fit the part.

Whichever actress played the hyperactive brunette in the movie would be
perfect for the role of Kitty.

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From: vapspwi@prism.gatech.EDU (Jerry B. Ray, Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: X-Men Cartoon this week!
Date: 22 Nov 92 20:43:43 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Hi, all!

I just got back from a local comic store, and they had 'Special Announcement'
fliers saying that Episode #3 of X-Men will be on Fox from 10:30-11:00
this FRIDAY.  This announcement looks pretty official, not handwritten,
so i assume this will take place all over the states.  I live in Atlanta.
Just thought ya'll would like to know :-)

JRjr
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through the heart peace can be found.  That's where you start, not all 
around...'  Extreme -- Rest In Peace
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From: kdontas@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Chris Eccleston)
Subject: Re: X-movie "Wolverine" candidate
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:17:18 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.225837.6320@gw.wmich.edu> 885celio@gw.wmich.edu (Gail Celio) writes:
>This sounds weird, but I was watching "The Blues Brothers" the other day.
>Am I the only one who thinks that if he lost a bunch of weight, worked
>out, and was still alive, that John Belushi would've made a cool Wolverine?
>Maybe it's just the sideburns...  :)
>

	Sheesh, well while we're at it, let's actually fuse
his bones with adamantium as well !  ;^)

	CAGE
From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: NEW REGULAR ARTIST FOR X-FACTOR
Date: 22 Nov 92 23:16:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

They'll probably have a fill-in artist or two. As long as 
Milgrom is inking, it doesn't really matter who the
penciler underneath is.

Jae is doing a good career move to get out from under
Al's inks!


Scott
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From: greco@elec.uq.oz.au (The Gereat White Hooter Hunter)
Subject: Wolverine - Technologically unsound!!
Keywords: wolverine
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:38:00 GMT

OK I'm going to have my bitch.

In the latest Wolverine (and a previous issue)
Logan dons a Virtual Reality goggles and gloves
and claims that this gives a really genuine
experience, and is better than the danger room !!

This is just _really_ bad writing on the part of 
Larry Hama.  

Myron Kruger (THE Father of virtual reality 
technology) predicts that the ultimate extension of
VR technology is that it will be non-intrusive 
(ie no gloves, headseets and shit) and be like a
computer/holographic overlay on the real world.

Now someone tell me.. What the hell then is the
Sh'iar technolgy used in the danger room ??

Is it not the ultimate in a virtual reality set-up
with full color 3-D images that you can interact
fight and talk with ??

So why bother with wolverines set-up !!!!

Just My Bitch Sess
    Sicko

(PS and don's give me anything about he was wearing
a VR set in the MCP series and has psychological links
to the equipment.  That Wolverine story was from ages ago
and the state of the art then is still a zillion
times better than we've got now)