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From: petrilli@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Chris Petrilli)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Re: Port list, kindly
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:49:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Department of Redundency Department
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.ai.mit.edu

In article <mrhoten.728103551@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> mrhoten@cs.stanford.edu (Matthew Q. Rhoten) writes:
Matt> Why don't you just look at an /etc/services file? (Or whatever the
Matt> analogue might be on whatever broken OS you might be running.
Matt> Interested parties might look to _UNIX Network Programming_ by W.
Matt> Richard Stevens, quite a good book, worth the $50.)

Actually, the best place to look is the RFC published by the IANA
(Internet Assigned Numbers Authority), it lists stuff that isn't even
mentioned in the most complete /etc/services file.  You can find it on
nic.ddn.mil.  Just grep for "assigned numbers".

Matt> ObHack: an icb client in elisp.

Cool :-)

Chris

-- 
| Chris Petrilli                                             ____
| petrilli@gnu.ai.mit.edu             ``Quayle is a bozoe.'' \  /
| I don't even speak for myself.                              \/
From: jsjacob@soda.berkeley.edu (John S. Jacob)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Re: STUPID QUESTION
Date: 27 Jan 1993 09:22:00 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <9301252403@drktowr.chi.il.us> magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto) writes:
>Victor Volkman (victor.volkman@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us) wrote:
>: What in hell is an "ObHack", or for that matter "Ob*".
>
>RTFF.  The FAQ was just posted recently, wasn't it?

Read something? Yeah, right!

I always thought it stood for "obligatory" -- as in, one must do
this... For alt.hackers, one must have a hack in every post...

ObHack: Hmmmm. Wiring my network and phone through the same telephone
cable. I suppose it was specifically designed this way, but I still
have two network nodes, four phones and a flashing yellow light (one
of those construction site flashing yellow lights) all running
together.

--
  [======== John S. Jacob ========]
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Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: newbie@hack
Subject: My first hack!
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 00:53:44 GMT
Organization: Not organized

So, did I make it?
From: pcl@ox.ac.uk (Paul C Leyland)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Re: Stupid macro tricks...
Date: 28 Jan 93 09:56:24 GMT
Organization: Oxford University Computing Services, 13 Banbury Rd Oxford OX2
	6NN
In-reply-to: daffnelr@mentor.cc.purdue.edu's message of 24 Jan 93 21:30:13 GMT

In article <C1DnqE.L3u@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> daffnelr@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Throatwarbler Mangrove) writes:

     Hey.. anyone out there got really
   ugly/complicated/elegant/interesting macros in any of their programs?
   As for the ugly part, it seems that bit manipulations can get that
   way very easily... Maybe we should have a contest for the ugliest
   macro that works for its intended purpose (that you've actually used
   in a program other than a test prog to see if it works..) Anyone got a


Here's what I wrote when modifying dvi2ps to read .pk format fonts.  I
needed to speed up the nybble and bit-addressing functions.  Since
then, I've seen them crop up in other dvi-handling code, usually
without attribution.  8-(

8<----------------->8

/* Converted from functions to macros for speed.  Pcl 6/8/87 */
/* return rounded number of pixels */
#define PixRound(x, conv) (int)(((x) + ((conv) >> 1)) / (conv))
#define pk_byte(x) (*char_p++)
#define get_nyb(x) (((nyb_ptr ^= TRUE) ? *char_p >> 4 : *char_p++) & 15)
#define get_bit(x) (((bit_ptr >>= 1) ? \
		     (*char_p & bit_ptr) : \
		     (*++char_p & (bit_ptr = 128))) > 0)

8<----------------->8


I particularly liked the get_bit macro.

God.  5.5 years ago!  I'm getting old ...


Paul
--
Paul Leyland <pcl@oxford.ac.uk>          | Hanging on in quiet desperation is
Oxford University Computing Service      |     the English way.
13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN, UK     | The time is come, the song is over.
Tel: +44-865-273200  Fax: +44-865-273275 | Thought I'd something more to say.
Finger pcl@black.ox.ac.uk for PGP key    |
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: john
Subject: Bad poster
Summary: poster malfunction
Originator: john
Organization: my own little world
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:11:08 GMT

Something seems to be wrong with my poster.  Ever since I made
my new header file, I haven't been able to post anywhere except
to the test groups.  Does anyone have any ideas why this might 
be?

I guess if this actually makes it to the newsgroup then the
poster is working ok, huh?  But I'd still like to figure out
why it wasn't posting right before.

Thanks,
 john

Newsgroups: alt.education.disabled
From: magnus@brisk.ii.uib.no (Magnus Y Alvestad)
Subject: X for sight-impaired
Reply-To: magnus@ii.uib.no
Organization: UVBS -> SFK/T-DSA / SOPS - HOS / RNoN
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 16:53:46 GMT

We have a student at our institute that is severly sight-impaired, and
needs really large fonts in X to be able to read. We have tried the
largest fonts there are in X11R4, but they aren't really large enough.


We will update to R5, but that will be some time still. What we need
now is something like 'xmag', but the cross is too small, he can't see
it. 

Any suggestions?

-Magnus
From: bz920@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dick E. Banks)
Newsgroups: alt.education.disabled
Subject: Library access list
Date: 24 Jan 1993 04:19:32 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Hello Everyone:

THe following announcement may be of interest to you.

Project EASI, Equal Access to Software and Information,  has just
started a new electronic discussion list on disability access to
libraries.  Dick Banks from U. Wisconsin at Stout will be its
moderator.  Anyone wanting to join the list or get further
information about it should contact Dick rbanks@uwstout.edu.  
 
      EASI is starting the list to:
 
1.  provide a forum to share questions and answers about how to
make
 
2.  provide a platform from which to reach libraries which are not
yet considering seriously the question of access for users with
disabilities. 
 
3.  provide a platform from which to lobby vendors of electronic
library services to create tools that are already highly
accessible.
 
4.  encourage electronic networks and network information services
to make their facilities as accessible as possible to users with
disabilities.  
 
5.  create and provide EASI services to assist campus libraries and
information providers with resources to assist them in becoming
more disability accessible.  
 
     The print handicapped have the possibility of making ready use
of libraries for the first time.  Mobility impaired persons have
the possibility of making use of libraries without travel.  It is
important that these new electronic services be built from the
ground up with access awareness rather than having to become
modified later.  Please join us in this important task.
 
Norman Coombs
Chair, Project EASI
Professor of HIstory
Rochester Institute of Technology.
nrcgsh@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
 
Dick BAnks 
easilibxs moderator 
Adaptive Technologist
Library Learning Center
University of Wisconsin-Stout
rbanks@uwstout.edu 
 
 
For information about Project EASI:
easi@educom.bitnet or easi@educom.edu 
 
A project of EDUCOM's Educational Uses of Information Technology
Program  (EUIT), EASI provides information and guidance on campus
applications of  adaptive computer technology for access to
information resources,  instruction, research and employment. 
EASI's membership includes professionals from throughout the United 
States, Canada and other countries.
[C


--
From: katzd@herald.usask.ca (David Katz)
Newsgroups: alt.education.distance
Subject: Re: Virtual Resources/Projects
Date: 22 Jan 1993 17:10:27 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
NNTP-Posting-Host: herald.usask.ca
Originator: katzd@herald.usask.ca

In article <1993Jan19.113731.14419@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
     steve@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Steve Balogh) writes:
>In article <1993Jan19.095620.1@cc.newcastle.edu.au>
     sysnet@cc.newcastle.edu.au (David Morrison) writes:

>>> I would propose that the children have separate groups, moderated, and
>>> the moderator would act as a gateway to other groups.  The children
>>> could read everything, but contribute only to their own groups.  If
>>        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> there was some important question to pass on, it would be the moderators
>>> task to post it and collect responses to the main newsgroups.  
>
>I believe that there is a hierarchy of newsgroups for children from
>kindergarten to year 12 in the US called k12.*.* and I have included
>details from a (rather old) posting.
> ...
>>k12.chat.elementary  Informal discussion among elementary students grades K-5.
>>k12.chat.junior      Informal discussion among students in grades 6-8.
>>k12.chat.senior      Informal discussion among high school students.
>>k12.chat.teacher     Informal discussion among teachers in grades K-12.
>> ...

Having browsed through one of these newsgroups some time ago (I think it
was k12.chat.junior) I was very concerned about the type of information
that was being exchanged in the newsgroup.  In one instance a 'chatter'
gave out her home address etc. in response to a request.  Granted that
in that particular instance it may have been legitimate, there is also
opportunity for serious harm to come to children from this sort of
action.

We spend enormous efforts teaching our children to be street smart -- not
getting into cars, how to avoid dangers, not giving their address to
strangers(!), talking with Mom or Dad about suspicious activities or
phone calls, etc. -- and then let them loose and unchaperoned on a
network that for some reason we assume will be safe.

Perhaps we should have moderators on these groups, like on many other
groups, simply to protect our children from their own innocence.

Dave Katz, I.S.P., MSc.                  Sector     Consultant
Saskatchewan Economic Development        Phone: (306) 933-7212
206 - 15 Innovation Blvd                 Fax:   (306) 933-8244
SASKATOON, Saskatchewan   S7N 2X8        KatzD@Herald.USask.ca
Xref: sparky alt.education.distance:494 k12.ed.science:2159 sci.edu:1495 sci.research.careers:1797
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Sunday, 24 Jan 1993 20:01:37 EST
From: <IO92142@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.education.distance
Subject: Resources

Hello.  I'm looking for resources that I would be able to
help show educators how the Internet can be used for
collaborative education between two distant groups.

Would anyone know such a resouce that would be
a good example of this?  Any information would be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Jim Gray
University of Maine
io92142@maine.maine.edu
Newsgroups: alt.education.distance
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:29:30 EST
From: <RSD1@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.education.distance,alt.games.torg,alt.games.dragons-inn
Subject: help on de-archiving

I was unsure where to post this request, but I just downloaded a file which is
  compressed using zip, and i don't have a de-archiving program to unpack it.
  Does anyone know where I can download one for the IBM compatible?  Also,
 is there a newsgroup for new users such as myself? Thanks!!
Newsgroups: alt.education.distance
From: scjones@thor.sdrc.com (Larry Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: How does caller ID work?
Keywords: caller id
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:30:38 GMT

In article <ckirby.727980782@silver.cs.umanitoba.ca>, ckirby@silver.cs.umanitoba.ca (Chris Kirby) writes:
> 	So, theoretically, one could modify and old 1200 baud modem to use the 
> modified tones (or even just pass the signal through some kind of filter to
> transform the tones to normal 1200 baud tones) and have caller ID for free?

No.  If you have an old 1200 baud *half-duplex* modem (Bell 201? 202?),
it works as-is.  If you have a modern full-duplex modem (Bell 212), it
uses a completely different modulation scheme and is totally incompatible
(unless by "modify" you mean rip out everything but the power supply and
line interface and replace it).
----
Larry Jones, SDRC, 2000 Eastman Dr., Milford, OH  45150-2789  513-576-2070
larry.jones@sdrc.com
It's either spectacular, unbelievable success, or crushing, hopeless
defeat!  There is no middle ground! -- Calvin
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Cordless telephones
Organization: I.E.C.C.
Date: 28 Jan 93 08:39:24 EST (Thu)
From: johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine)

>My parents have just purchased a cordless phone and are concerned about 
>unauthorized monitoring or use.


Nearly all cordless phones sold in the US use a subset of the same 10
channels, and high-end phones can use all 10, which means that the chances
of someone else being able to listen in on your cordless phone is very high.

The better ones have a handshake between the handset and the base which
keeps random listeners from getting a dialtone, so there's not much
likelihood of people stealing phone service.

But don't plan on having private conversations.  The insecurity of cordless
phones is so well-known that they're explicitly excluded from the privacy
provisions of the ECPA.  Think of them as the modern equivalent of shouting
over the back fence.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us, {spdcc|ima|world}!iecc!johnl
From: jang@acsu.buffalo.edu (Euee S. Jang)
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
Subject: INFO REQUEST: DECT.
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:21:13 GMT
Organization: UB


DECT( Digital European Cordless Telecommunications) information needed:

I am considering the DECT for the environment for my experiment.
Right now, I am having difficulties in finding out the details
in DECT. I got some articles but it is just an introduction.
Does someone have any kind of detail in DECT?

Erik
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
From: selig@udcps3.cps.udayton.edu (Paul D. Selig)
Subject: For Sale: NCR Voice Management System
Organization: University of Dayton Computer Science Dept., Dayton, OH
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:49:30 GMT


For Sale
--------

NCR Voice Management System
(the same as the Natural Microsystems Corporation's Watson II board)
Selling for US$150.00 - I'll pay the overnight FedEx COD shipping.

Includes:
---------
NCR VMS Card (full length ISA card for the IBM XT/AT)
- all telephone connections are on the VMS card
- built-in Hayes-compatible 1200 baud modem
NCR VMS/API System and Supplemental diskettes Version 1.0
All manuals for the Voice Mail System (VMS) and the Application Program
Interface (API)

The NCR VMS system allows you to set up a single user voice mailbox (like
an answering machine) or a complete multi-user voice mailbox system for
workgroups.  The Applications Program Interface allows you write scripts to
call a list of phone numbers and deliver a message; it also allows control
of the next message based on a keypress received, which allows you to contruct
menues and interactive responses.

The recommended configuration for running this system is a IBM XT or AT
compatible system, with 640K memory and at least a 20 megabyte hard drive.
There are no other special requirements.

-- 
Paul D. Selig, Jr.
The University of Dayton Computer Science Department, Dayton, Ohio
Email: selig@cps.udayton.edu 	Voice: (513) 229-3831
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
From: duane@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (duane.galensky)
Subject: Re: What Are You going to call a modem after telcom lines become digital
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:14:34 GMT

In article <75VuXB1w165w@dorsai.com> hamidou@dorsai.com (hamidou) writes:
>Daer Whoever
> 
>        Well i just wanted to know what will we call modems after they 
>become highly digital.   They are not modem anymore because they are not 
>acting like a modulator or emulator.  So what are we going to call 
>devices that transmit info over high speed digital lines.
>


i'd call them "expensive."   :-)

duane
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
From: ckirby@silver.cs.umanitoba.ca (Chris Kirby)
Subject: Re: How does caller ID work?
Keywords: caller id
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:53:02 GMT

In <C14wy0.Aqy@hatch.socal.com> richg@hatch.socal.com (Rich Greenberg) writes:

>In article <michaelm.727416353@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU> michaelm@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Mike McCormack) writes:
>>Does anyone know how caller ID works (ie. from a technical viewpoint)?
>>I read an article in the paper about it, which told me what it does,
>>but said nothing more than "it is a little black box you connect to your
>>phone". Does the exchange send out caller ID info by default or do you
>>have to ask for it?

>If you subscribe to and pay for the service, the data is sent in ASCII
>at 1200 baud (but NOT the usual 1200 baud modem tones) between the
>first and second rings.

	So, theoretically, one could modify and old 1200 baud modem to use the 
modified tones (or even just pass the signal through some kind of filter to
transform the tones to normal 1200 baud tones) and have caller ID for free?
I've kind a smattering of the concepts here, but I'm not sure if this is
possible, could someone who knows better fill me in?

	BTW, when I say free, I mean in the sense that I wouldn't have to go
out and by a caller ID phone, since I'd still have to subscribe to get
the information coming down the line.

-- 
     Chris Kirby                        |                    
     ckirby@silver.cs.umanitoba.ca      |          APATHY RULES !!!
     University of Manitoba             |        ( but who cares? )
     Winnipeg, Manitoba                 |                         
Xref: sparky alt.dcom.telecom:891 comp.dcom.modems:20085
From: sullivan@rzscsi.enet.dec.com (My name is...)
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom,comp.dcom.modems
Subject: REQUEST: Info on modems/muxes as security tool
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:39:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Does anyone know of any information regarding using modems /multiplexers as
security tools?

I know there are modems that implement dial-back and there are muxes/routers
that don't allow messages from 'authorized' sources to pass through,  I am
looking for journal articles on these topics, as well as modems and mux
security related articles.

If you know of any, either post it here or email me directly.  I am grateful
for any and all information.

thanks in advance
dan
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
From: dmd2@Ra.MsState.Edu (David Dumas)
Subject: Where are the WESTERN ELECTRICS?
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:34:34 GMT

Can anyone tell me a good place to get the old, heavy, real bell, Western
Electric telephones?  I'm interested in all styles (desk, Trimline, Princess,
etc.).

I know about the Telephone Outlet in Republic, Pennsylvania and have done
business with them.  Their phones are heavy, with the real bell, and made
and refurbished in the U.S.  However, I'm looking for a place that not only
sells phones with Western Electric insides, but also Western Electric out-
sides.  I am looking for the phones that have the words "Western Electric"
on the phone piece (desk phones) and the base.

Can anyone of you help me?

Thanks,

David Dumas
dmd2@ra.msstate.edu


--
David Dumas
dmd2@Isis.MsState.Edu
From: gabe@msgpad.uucp (Gabe Helou)
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
Subject: Cordless telephones
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:02:46 GMT
Reply-To: gabe@angus.mi.org
Organization: The Message Pad

I have a couple questions regarding cordless telephones.

    What is the likelihood of another phone operating on the same 
    channel as yours?  Possible concerns include a) others being able to 
    listen in on phone converstions and b) others being able to place 
    calls via your phone line.
    
    Is is possible to disable the base phone to prevent other handsets 
    from dialing out?
    
My parents have just purchased a cordless phone and are concerned about 
unauthorized monitoring or use.  This isn't my area of expertise, but I 
don't want to blow my image.  Any information about cordless phones 
would be appreciated.

BTW, if this is covered in a FAQ list, please point me toward it.
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
From: janson@crow.csrv.uidaho.edu (Todd Janson)
Subject: Re: Cordless telephones
Organization: University Of Idaho.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:35:33 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

: In <B8a1XB1w165w@msgpad.uucp> gabe@msgpad.uucp (Gabe Helou) writes:

: >I have a couple questions regarding cordless telephones.

: >    What is the likelihood of another phone operating on the same 
: >    channel as yours?  Possible concerns include a) others being able to 
: >    listen in on phone converstions and b) others being able to place 
: >    calls via your phone line.

: If you are going to worry about (a), realize that those who listen
: in will be doing so on equipment other than cordless phones.  Equipment
: of choice includes baby monitors and scanners.

: I would not worry so much about (b).  Most phones (see the recent
: Consumer Reports article) use codes so that it would not be 
: easy for someone else to use your base to dial calls.
: >    
: >    Is is possible to disable the base phone to prevent other handsets 
: >    from dialing out?
: >    
: See (b) above.

: >My parents have just purchased a cordless phone and are concerned about 
: >unauthorized monitoring or use.  This isn't my area of expertise, but I 
: >don't want to blow my image.  Any information about cordless phones 
: >would be appreciated.

: It is covered in my book about phone service -- "The Phone Book",
: by Oppedahl.  Your local library or bookstore should have it.  The
: publisher :) is Consumer Reports.

Some other information of note:  There are 20 frequencies that are used
for cordless telephones.  Since a cordless connection uses two frequencies,
that means a total of ten possible channels which your phone operates on.
Usually, the channel itself will be on the base, probably on the underside.
Or, you may be able to switch channels to find the clearest one...some
phone/base combos let you do this.  The standard frequencies listened to
by people with scanners are the set transmitted by the base units.

So how safe is your phone conversation?  Well, unless your parents purchased
one of the real spendy 'secure' lines which encode everything, not safe at
all.  At least, not if you want to talk about anything confidential.  For
all you know, your neighbor is hanging on every word you say.  And doing it
quite legally, in fact, since the radio waves are public.  On the other
hand, there is your concern about someone dialing out.  In general, don't
worry about that at all.  Unless the phone is among the first cordless
phones, it has a security code set on both the base and the handset, usually
accessible by opening the battery pack and flipping miniature switches.
These switches control a signal sent out by the handset which must match
the base in order to activate the connection.  Unless someone knows your
combo and has the same brand of phone, chances are unlikely that they will
be able to use your phone.

Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
From: kingpin@spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Joe Smooth)
Subject: Novatel
Organization: None
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:06:27 GMT

Does anybody have a service manual for the Novatel 8320 or 8305
transportable cellular phone? if so, please mail me! thanks!
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom