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From: esz001@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Will Overington)
Subject: Proposal for the creation of alt.authorware
Keywords: Authorware
Organization: European Computing Laboratory, Coventry University, Coventry, UK
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 09:20:54 GMT


Wednesday 30th September 1992

Proposal for the creation of alt.authorware

I am proposing in alt.config, cross-posted to
alt.education.distance, the creation of a new group called
alt.authorware.

The intention, subject to the results of any discussions on the
net, is that alt.authorware shall be a special group for
discussions relating to the use of the Authorware package, which
is produced by Authorware, Inc..

This is certainly a specialist topic, though one for which those
who are involved in using Authorware is a very important one.

I started using Authorware on Monday and am starting to get into
it.  I am a programmer on the staff of Coventry University,
including being a programming adviser.  From next week, a number
of final year undergraduates are to be started off on projects
involving using Authorware to create open learning packages.
They will be under the supervision of a lecturer who has a lot of
experience with Authorware.  As well as installing the software
on the PCs, I am hoping to be able to help the students on a day
to day basis as they work on their projects.  A thriving
alt.authorware group, where they can read views from around the
world, with discussions at a state-of-the-art level, would be a
great benefit.  Discussions with other students working on
Authorware based projects, would, I feel, be an added advantage.

The number of students to be involved is not yet fixed, as there
is an element of choosing projects with some flexibility on the
numbers.  That is, all sorts of projects of which an Authorware
based project is just one of the things on offer.

Authorware has a vast number of possibilities.

The group will not be moderated.  I will do my best to try to
keep an archive, but hope that others will also wish to do this
as well.

As well as discussions on programming and presentation aspects,
the group is intended also as a forum for discussion of copyright
aspects and so on.

I am fully aware that Authorware is a licensed product and that
permission to publish finished work is part of the licensing, and
also a matter of copyright of the open learning package author.
I am not in charge of Authorware here and will need to go into
the details of the licensing.  However, if it can be legally and
properly done, maybe the group can facilitate the circulation of
open learning packages produced using Authorware, by the various
methods of servers and the like.

Comments and support is welcomed, preferably posted, but by
e-mail if you wish.










Newsgroups: alt.config
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: alt.house
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 21:41:55 GMT

In <1992Sep30.192859.23009@engage.pko.dec.com> moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com writes:
>In article <BvEFoz.InB@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, cs125b55@dcl-nxt30.cso.uiuc.edu (cs125 student) writes...
>>The group, alt.house, should be created because discussions of house music
>>doesn't belong in alt.rave.
>Suggest you come up with a better name so people know what the group is for,
>such as alt.music.house otherwise you'll get plenty of inappropiate (to you)
>posts such as how do I fix a leaky roof.  Witness "alt.cesium" to see what
>happens with a poorly thought out group name! 


I think more to the point, someone needs to demonstrate how or why
"discussions of house music don't belong in alt.rave".

That is just TOO STUPID.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
    Uncle Sam comes off as the perverted relative who'll offer you a bit of
          candy, but if you won't bend over for him, you get a beating
Newsgroups: alt.tasteless.jokes,alt.config
From: ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu (Eric J. Olson)
Subject: Re: alt joke groups (was Re: Stupid stuff i read this morning.)
Organization: Citizens for Boysenberry Jam Fans
	<EUGENE.92Oct5215624@ra.cs.umb.edu>
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:53:19 GMT

In article <EUGENE.92Oct5215624@ra.cs.umb.edu> eugene@cs.umb.edu (Eugene O'Neil) writes:
>In article <1992Oct5.165233.17813@raven.alaska.edu> ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu (Eric J. Olson) writes:
>   >    What could be more tasteless than an ethnic joke?  1 vote against.
>   Oughtta be alt.humor.ethnic anyway.
>Not ALL tasteless jokes are ethnic. What about dead-baby-in-a-blender jokes?
>jokes involving embarrasing bodily functions? 

I mean if someone wants to create alt.humor.ethnic, they shouldn't
call it alt.ethnic.humor.  I didn't mean alt.tasteless.jokes should be
renamed.

Eric Olson <ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu>
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From: bdb@becker.GTS.ORG (Bruce Becker)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.newgroup
Subject: Re: looking for alt.church.of-all.worlds or alt.caw
Keywords: pagan church-of-all-worlds caw
Date: 5 Oct 92 06:33:41 GMT
Reply-To: news@becker.gts.org
Organization: G. T. S., Toronto, Ontario

In article <1992Sep28.201759.4434@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> dstalder@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Darren Stalder) writes:
|The summary line says it...Does there exist a newsgroup out there
|focusing on the Church of All Worlds.  It is a pagan church based out of
|Ukiah, CA.  I have been told there is a newsgroup out there already.  Is
|this true?  Is there some location I can go to that has all the
|different alt groups on it?


alt.religion.all-worlds	Grokking the Church of All Worlds from Heinlein's book.



	There is a monthly posting of "alt" groups & their
	descriptions made to alt.config and other newsgroups


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From: ccs@aber.ac.uk (Christopher "Jd" Samuel)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.folklore.ghost-stories,alt.horror
Subject: alt.horror.cthulhu (was Re: PLEASE, this time CREATE alt.cthulhu)
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:06:14 GMT
Followup-To: alt.config
Organization: University of Wales - Aberystwyth - Prifysgol Cymru

[Followups redirected to alt.config]

In article <BvnxLM.22q@unix.amherst.edu>
   twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) doodled:

> Based on recent discussions in alt.config and
> alt.folklore.ghost-stories, I think a newsgroup for Cthulhu would make
> sense.  If there are no objections, I'll send out a newgroup for
> alt.horror.cthulhu in the next couple of days.

Thanks for that (and the mail) Tim, I'll support it, and won't post my
proposal (or even start writing it :-)

Chris
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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: steve@keystone.arch.unsw.edu.au (Stephen Peter)
Subject: Re: architecture
Reply-To: steve@keystone.arch.unsw.edu.au
Organization: Faculty of Architecture, University of New South Wales
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:56:28 GMT

In article sw@nic.umass.edu, s0558191@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Chris Belanger) writes:
>Can anyone tell me if the alt.architecture group has been created
>as I heard it had been? I haven't seen any mention of it and I
>don't want to ask a system administrator to add it if it
>doesn't even exist yet. Thanks!

We (Dennis Lu & I) asked our news sys. admin. person to issue a "newgroup"
which happened about a week ago (here).  I don't know too much about how all
this works, but I would think that the group should be available there now!

cheers
Stephen.
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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.discordia
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:02:58 GMT

In article <BvGozL.DG4@acsu.buffalo.edu> bsherman@acsu.buffalo.edu (Brian C. Sherman) writes:

>And the lemmings marched over the edge into the blackness below, 'cause, you
>see, it was fore-ordained.

No.  Five-ordained.

-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: mdw@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Re: MAC and the art of motorcycle maintenance
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 03:14:53 GMT

In article <9210070126.AA27791@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> jfurr@vtssi.vt.EDU (Joel Furr) writes:
>To this I now respond in MAC's vein:  Suppose MAC's favorite newsgroup, say,
>alt.fan.masturbation, is invaded by people who want to discuss, say, the
>monastic life and the virtue of prayer.  These people swamp the newsgroup with
>discussions of whether it is better to vow poverty or chastity.  Eventually
>the traffic in the group drops off to the point that most of the messages are
>about monasticism and MAC isn't getting his daily dose of messages about
>autoeroticism.  He trots over to alt.config and proposes a newsgroup about
>monasticism.  Everyone screams "USE A KILLFILE!"
>
>What does MAC do in this case?  I suppose he uses a killfile and thus only
>gets one or two messages in the group to his liking each week.  To each their
>own.

Or, he continues to masturbate to the articles about prayer and monasticism.
I'm sure there's plenty of joy in it, and MAC's got a sharp enough 
imagination... it's just an aquired taste, that's all.

mdw

-- 
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Systems Programmer, Cornell Theory Center
  "Yow! Up ahead! It's a DONUT HUT!!"
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From: intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Sheila Rani Gurtu)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.folklore.ghost-stories,alt.horror
Subject: Re: PLEASE, this time CREATE alt.cthulhu
Date: 6 Oct 1992 09:51:47 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


 > Based on recent discussions in alt.config and
 > alt.folklore.ghost-stories, I think a newsgroup for Cthulhu would
 > make sense.  If there are no objections, I'll send out a newgroup
 > for alt.horror.cthulhu in the next couple of days.

Sounds good to me!  Let's get some REAL Lovecraftian discussions going.

Newsgroups: alt.config,news.groups,bionet.plants,alt.co-evolution,misc.rural,rec.gardens,sci.bio,talk.environment
From: Lawrence.London@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Lawrence London)
Subject: PROPOSAL: alt.sustainable.agriculture
Followup-To: alt.config 
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 18:16:08 GMT

     I would like to propose and open discussion on alt.sustainable. 
agriculture as a new newsgroup. Establishing an alt.sustainable.* category
might serve to pave the way for other groups covering topics such as
communities, development, culture and possibly habitat and environment. 

     The term sustainable agriculture may have several definitions these
days but the one most adhering to the principles I and many others espouse
surrounds these concepts:  

: 1) A natural and wholistic system using low-input, regenerative methods 
:    working toward the creation of biological diversity and a permanent 
:    agriculture.  
: 2) Ecologically sound, socially just and economically viable.  
: 3) Encourage sustainability of animals as well as humans.  
: 4) Encourages awareness of the need for stewardship of the land.  
: 5) Promotes maximum use of on-farm resources.  

I am maintaining an FTP, mailing list site to accompany this newsgroup. 
News articles will be archived there along with other related documents,
FAQ's, lists and indexes of information kept at the site. WAIS/GOPHER 
text searches of the literature will eventually be possible. An automated
listserver will also be available.  

Site information:  
FTP to: sunsite.unc.edu 
Docs are in:
   /pub/docs/sustainable_agriculture (newsgroup archives, general info., etc.)
   /pub/docs/sustainable_agriculture/recgardens (FAQ lists)
   /pub/docs/sustainable_agriculture/miscrural (FAQ lists) 

For those without access to FTP send me e-mail with your requests and I'll
send them to you. Anyone with information to add to the collection should
FTP them directly or e-mail them to me for immediate posting (this
includes new or updated FAQ's or lists).  

Lawrence 

Chapel Hill, N.C. 
1-919-932-3115 

london@sunsite.unc.edu 
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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: jfurr@vtssi.vt.EDU (Joel Furr)
Subject: not everybody uses UNIX
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 00:56:30 GMT

rpwhite@ac13.cs.nps.navy.mil writes:

>jfurr@vtssi.vt.EDU (Joel Furr) writes:
>
>>Somewhere in the news.announce.newusers files that get posted, there's a
note
>>to the effect that it's bad manners to assume that everyone reads news on a
>>UNIX box somewhere.  
>
>Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzztt!!!!!!!!
>
>What that note really says is that it is bad manners to read news on other
>than a UNIX box. It's even worse manners to discuss your software
>shortcomings on the net.

Gene Spafford (spaf@cs.purdue.EDU) writes in news.announce.newusers:

>11. Usenet is not a UNIX network.
>
>    Don't assume that everyone is using "rn" on a UNIX machine.  Among
>    the systems used to read and post to Usenet are Vaxen running VMS,
>    IBM mainframes, Amigas, and MS-DOS PCs.

Thus, as we can see, rpwhite is not only misinformed and has chosen to post
about it to the net so we can all smile tolerantly at his failings.

Killfiles are NOT mandatory for USENET participation; if you set yourself up
as an expert on USENET and go around claiming that if someone doesn't use a
UNIX newsreader, he's at fault, you pretty quickly show yourself to be less of
an expert and more of a didactic fool.
From: gcf@panix.com (Gordon Fitch)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.alien.invaders
Date: 26 Sep 92 15:50:42 GMT
Organization: mydog in exile

In article <1992Sep26.005520.13772@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> klein@frith.egr.msu.edu (Jeffrey Klein) writes:
| I propose the group alt.alien.invaders,
| because they're not just visiting.

Yes?  And how do _you_ know, hmmm?

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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: alt.music.house
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 16:47:47 GMT
Organization: None for me, thanks . . . I'm driving.

cs125b55@dcl-nxt04.cso.uiuc.edu (cs125 student) writes:

> Although most of the current House songs have that techno sound (which
> is appropriate in alt.rave), where is it appropriate for classic
> House, R&B/House, and Garage House music discussions? 

Rec.music.misc.  Maybe you've heard of it.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: hmiller@lucpul.it.luc.edu (Hugh Miller)
Subject: Re: Info-PGP Mailing List
Keywords: info-pgp mailing list
Organization: Loyola University Chicago
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 18:12:24 GMT

In <ymTJRB4w165w@mantis.co.uk> mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) writes:

>hmiller@lucpul.it.luc.edu (Hugh Miller) writes:
>> systems.  It is primarily intended for users on Internet sites without access
>> to the `alt.security.pgp' newsgroup.

>I didn't see alt.security.pgp discussed on alt.config.  Many sites refuse to
>carry alt groups which have not been mentioned in alt.config.  Perhaps if
>you'd discussed the newsgroup properly instead of just blindly creating it, a
>lot more people would have access to it and the mailing list wouldn't be
>necessary.

    What you say about alt.config may have some validity, but a digest would
still have been necessary for the many hundreds of sites, many big, which
refuse to carry ANY alt groups.
    Is it too late to get some notification of alt.security.pgp into
alt.config?

    -=- H.
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: lesmith@nyx.cs.du.edu (Lee Harvey Oswald Smith)
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.discordia
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 02:57:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.150411.30409@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk> ucsatsd@ucl.ac.uk (-8  Big Bad Bob (B3)  8-) writes:
>
>The best place to hide is in the open, and the best way to divert the foolish 
>is by throwing carrots at them. What *better* way to keep all the sad, 
>Wannabe-Erisians from getting in our hair than to let them have an 
>alt.discordia? True discordians could have a great time winding alt.discordia
>'jargon-heads' into a frenzy (again, see alt.subgenius...).
>
I say, let's have alt.discordia.
Excuse me, but isn't that a bit ANERISTIC of you?
"Sad wannabe-Erisians?", if you call them that are true Discordians.
One of the founders of the Joshua Norton Cabal, (Malaclypse, I think)
said that to join the Discordian Society, all that one has to do is
to a) believe that it exists, and b) count oneself in it.

Now if ANYONE was to be excluded from the Discordian movement, it would be
people like you who try to make it into an exclusive club.

What harm can alt.discordia do? Even if it introduces 1000 Eristically-
minded people who otherwise wouldn't come across the Movement to it, is
that not a good thing? After all, discordianism is not a secret society.
And besides, Eris is not being sold to the masses, Ninja Turtle-fashion, here.

I say; let's have alt.discordia.

Hail Eris;


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From: jxxl@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: PROPOSAL: alt.dis
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:40:04 GMT
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA


This is a proposal to create the group alt.dis, to discuss the multitude
of issues regarding the development and implementation of Distributed
Interactive Simulations (DIS).

The project is developing technology allowing large-scale simulations
distributed over local and long-haul networks. DIS specifies how vehicles
and other craft, their dimensions and capabilities, are described so 
that they can realistically interact in a simulated environment. DIS 
also specifies protocols for sharing this information among network 
hosts.

Possible topics of discussion:

* The differences between DIS and its progenitor, SIMNET.

* The evolving communications architecture, the use of multicasting,
  conservation of network bandwidth, etc.

* The use of 2-D and 3-D graphics in displaying simulations.

* The availability and use of terrain databases.

* Simulation management.

* Making other simulation systems DIS compliant.

* The size and type of Protocol Data Units (PDUs).

* The availability and use of software developed for DIS.

* Announcements or reports of DIS events or conferences.

Any comments regarding the creation of this group, or the selection of
the name alt.dis?

John
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Bogus newsgroups
Date: 5 Oct 92 06:23:08 GMT
Organization: The Z*NET Global News Gateway. Parnell New Zealand

kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I) writes:
 
                   (item deleted)


> It actually should have said "what the *fuck* are you talking about?", but I

                 (item deleted)

> Followups to alt.config, this isn't an nz issue.
 
 Agreed, but the language in nz.general and al.config in your message is
 totaly uncalled for.
 
 If we wanted this sort of content to polute our news feeds we would open
 usenet up to all the bbs's in the world. Maybe you should bite your
 tongue in future when you are tempted to use such language.

                                                  _
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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: death@buhub.bradley.edu (Dustin Slater)
Subject: Re: PLEASE, this time CREATE alt.cthulhu
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 07:15:40 GMT

I second the proposal.
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Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.flame,alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: friedman@ganymede.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark "Crimson" Friedman)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: PLEASE, this time CREATE alt.cthulhu
Date: 6 Oct 92 03:06:12 GMT
Organization: NAIVE - New And Improved Virtual Environment

In article <1992Oct6.023041.16233@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> bur@ultisol.gsfc.nasa.gov (MAC) writes:
>Have you considered using a killfile?  One line would do the trick.
>
>/cthulhu/a:j

HAHAHAHA!!!  Well, that would take care of *one* spelling, at least! :-)

							- Mark

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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: alt.music.house
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 20:23:32 GMT

In <1992Oct2.185459.27402@leland.Stanford.EDU> jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey) writes:
>	Fortunately, the rec.music.* hierarchy looks like it's _finally_
>going to be doing some sensible splitting-up.  Rec.music.reggae is probably 
>going to be created soon and I suspect other splits will follow. Rec.music.
>bluenote is likely to split into rec.music.jazz and rec.music.blues as well.  

I think you must have an odd definition of "sensible".

rec.music.phish was far from sensible, for one example.
Splitting jazz and blues is not necessarily sensible.
I don't see how rec.music.reggae is going to alleviate
the horrible overcrowding of reggae posts in rec.music.misc (note
the sarcasm, it will never let us down).

I think your definitions of "likely" are odd as well--I've seen
more negative traffic on these topics than positive traffic.
-- 
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   This is a chain letter.  Within the next fifty-five days you will receive
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