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From: coxm@Software.Mitel.COM (Michael Cox)
Newsgroups: alt.parents-teens
Subject: Re: Missing, Abused, & Exploited Children
Date: 11 Aug 92 12:14:36 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

In article <1992Aug7.175557.197@news.wesleyan.edu> RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg) writes:
>In <1992Aug6.161942.1@vax.sonoma.edu> abel@vax.sonoma.edu writes:
>> how will it fits here.  Some of us, at times, *wish* that our teens 
>> were missing, at least until they become human (adulthood?).  Many of 
>
>I'm sure that this was meant to be humorous, but i don't find it very funny.  i
>suppose i'll get some number of flames about being 'humor impaired' or
stuff deleted
>*wish* that my teen were missing, nor do i consider her, or anyone else between
>13-19 to be less than fully human.  do adults who say things like this WONDER
>why parent-teen communications can be so difficult???
>
>IMO: it ain't funny.

   I don't think the poster thought their teenager was less than human, but
expressed an opinion (humourously) that teens go through a difficult part of
life and while it lasts for only 5 to 10 years it is difficult on those around
the teen too.

   If there was anything WRONG with the world today is that people can't take
a joke.  The world is so bent on being diplomatic that humour has lost its place
as being the maker of friends.  There are slurs but they're really not jokes.
Make a joke and make a friend (my quote).
-- 
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From: bill@az.stratus.com (Bill Everts)
Newsgroups: alt.parents-teens
Subject: RE: Missing, Abused, & Exploited Children
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:36:22 GMT

In article <17AUG92.04152791@meena.cc.uregina.ca> isilver@meena.cc.uregina.ca  
writes:
> 
>       There is hope, I am told, by people whose teens eventually
> became humanoids, at around 18 (in the case of my oldest), though
> friends said their son took till he was 28.
>

Maybe I am just fortunate or something, but my teen (admittedly only 14) is  
quite human. Although he is not as responsible as an ideal adult (room is not  
always clean, has to be bugged to do homework, chores etc) in general he is a  
well adjusted person. He cares about other people, accepts criticism better  
than many of the people I've worked with in my adult career, and accepts  
responsibility for his actions. He calls home when he is going to be late. Asks  
for permission to visit with friends or have friends over; he even accepts it  
when the answer is no.  He is a big help with his 8 month old brother including  
last minute availability to baby sit, help with feeding the baby when one  
parent is home alone and trying to get dinner ready etc.  Last Sunday his step  
mother and I were working with young children in the nursery. My 14 year old  
was not even requested to help. In fact, he had free rein to just hang out with  
his friends (yes he does have them and there were several he could've spent  
time with). However, he spent the entire hour helping calm down crying kids.

He's not perfect but by golly I'm proud to be his parent.

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From: kati@glnserv.UUCP (Lady Dragon)
Newsgroups: alt.parents-teens
Subject: Re: Need your opinion on Careers for teens
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 08:39:00 CDT
Organization: Vermi-net, Houston, Tx. 77098

Nigel.Allen@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Nigel Allen) writes:

> While I agree that early high school is too early to choose a career, it's
> interesting to learn more about relatively obscure occupations.
> So I'm not trying to persuade anyone to become a medical illustrator, but
> I would encourage any bright high school student to browse through a
> directory of occupations just for background information. (But then, I've
> been known to patiently explain to people that they should carefully read
> the fine print in the front of the phone book or on the back of a
> telegraph form.)

Okay, so where do we find such a book? My daughter is only 9YO, but I am
also the co-leader of a Girl Scout troop and this sounds like something
they should all get a chance to look at.

Also, what's the Net advice on aptitude tests? Are they reccomended or
not, and why? If so, which ones and how can we get ahold of one?

My daughter dearly loves Math & Science and plans on being a teacher in
elementary and/or high school. I have encouraged her to do this, even
though her father (my ex-) would prefer that she go into a job such as
professorship "for the money". (I have let her know that doing what you
really want to is worth more than money.) She has also been in a Gifted
class from Kindergarten all the way up and making A's & B's. She's not
good in spelling, but we drill her at home and she saw that it helped a
lot.



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Newsgroups: alt.parents-teens
From: isilver@meena.cc.uregina.ca
Subject: RE: holidays in hell
Organization: University of Regina, Regina, Sask., Canada
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 04:23:08 GMT

      4 years ago, when our kids were 15, 11, and 8, we drove, in
a small, un-airconditioned car, to Prince Edward Island & back.
In 5 weeks, we put on over 10,000 km. We endured everything from
group P.M.S. to running out of money. My wife & I felt that, as a
family, that was more togetherness than we EVER planned on. The
funny thing is, if we ask our kids what family experience means
the most to them, and they've travelled overseas, done a LOT,
they always refer to the "National Lampoon's Canadian Vacation"
trip, not just to us, but to their friends.
      Now, however, we don't impose trips on the kids unless they
want to come. Usually, they do, but the option, guilt-free, is
there.
       Regards
                            Ian

Newsgroups: alt.parents-teens
From: isilver@meena.cc.uregina.ca
Subject: RE: Missing, Abused, & Exploited Children
Organization: University of Regina, Regina, Sask., Canada
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 04:15:27 GMT

      I work with teenagers all day. I like teenagers. I love my
own 3 teenagers, but they DO drive us batty. The 'personal code'
described by Don Bolton pretty-well represents the weltanschauung
of my kids AT HOME. Now, I know that, at school or in the real
world (in their eyes), they are quite different. Also, I find in
talking to kids as a non-parent, teens are polite, open, caring &
loyal to their families. They tend, however, to express at home,
the very attributes that drive all of us, me included, around the
twist.
      There is hope, I am told, by people whose teens eventually
became humanoids, at around 18 (in the case of my oldest), though
friends said their son took till he was 28.
      Given the 'adult' world out there, I think I'd rather go
with the teen code than the personal codes of much of the aging
me-generationists.
       Regards
                            Ian

Newsgroups: alt.parents-teens
From: rprimmer@home.webo.dg.com (Bob Primmer)
Subject: Re: Missing, Abused, & Exploited Children
Date: 14 Aug 92 08:47:05
	<1992Aug7.175557.197@news.wesleyan.edu> <12562@coxm>
	<13AUG199215553502@sigma.tamu.edu>
Organization: NSDD, Data General Corp.

>>>>> On Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:55:00 GMT, h2n5451@sigma.tamu.edu (NOBOA, HOMERO L.) said:
>> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

>> In article <12562@coxm>, coxm@Software.Mitel.COM (Michael Cox) writes...
>In article <1992Aug7.175557.197@news.wesleyan.edu> RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg) writes:
>>In <1992Aug6.161942.1@vax.sonoma.edu> abel@vax.sonoma.edu writes:
>>> how will it fits here.  Some of us, at times, *wish* that our teens 
>>> were missing, at least until they become human (adulthood?).  Many of 
>>
>>I'm sure that this was meant to be humorous, but i don't find it very funny.  i
>>suppose i'll get some number of flames about being 'humor impaired' or
>stuff deleted
>>*wish* that my teen were missing, nor do i consider her, or anyone else between
>>13-19 to be less than fully human.  do adults who say things like this WONDER
>>why parent-teen communications can be so difficult???
>>
>>IMO: it ain't funny.
> 
>   I don't think the poster thought their teenager was less than human, but
>expressed an opinion (humourously) that teens go through a difficult part of
>life and while it lasts for only 5 to 10 years it is difficult on those around
>the teen too.
> 
>   If there was anything WRONG with the world today is that people can't take
>a joke.  The world is so bent on being diplomatic that humour has lost its place
>as being the maker of friends.  There are slurs but they're really not jokes.
>Make a joke and make a friend (my quote).

>> Homero says:

>> I'm very sorry but I also found that 'joke' extremely annoying and 
>> rude

In that case, the joke should immediately be banned from both USENET
and society at large!

Thank god for people like Homero.
Newsgroups: alt.parents-teens
From: garygm@leland.Stanford.EDU (Gary Brainin)
Subject: Re: Missing, Abused, & Exploited Children
Organization: Stanford Law School, Stanford University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 01:24:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.143838.1@vax.sonoma.edu> abel@vax.sonoma.edu (dan abel) writes:
>[...]
>Just remember, parents:  This too shall pass, and you shall get your 
>revenge when your teens grow up and have children themselves!


   Not if they're smart.

			-Gary
			just couldn't resist
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From: solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky)
Newsgroups: alt.parents-teens
Subject: Re: Traveling with a teen
Date: 15 Aug 92 04:55:58 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

We're looking here at a problem that all parents have when attempting to
reconcile their ridiculous expectations with their children's actions. They
think that going on a trip with their children is going to be a wonderful
thing, and they imagine what it will be like. Low and behold, after all that
time of looking forward to that trip, they suddenly find themselves on
that trip and ... SHOCK ... the children aren't interested in all of the
things that you are doing for THEM. It doesn't occur to the parents that the
children might have built up similar expectations, and they haven't given the
least bit of thought to how the children will react because its obvious that
they are doing such a wonderful thing that the children will be eternally
grateful.

It is unrealistic to expect a teenager in Barcelona during the Olympics to
care to go sight-seeing (It is actually unrealistic to expect ANY teenager
to go sight-seeing, but this is a much more extreme case.). What should have
happened is that the parents should have sat down with their child and gone
over the plans for the trip. At this time both have the option of not going
and they can haggle over what can be done. Worst case is that you yell and
scream at each other and then get a month to build up excitement over the
compromise trip. Instead you spent a month looking forward to an unrealistic
trip, and had all your expectations dashed. The only person at fault is the
person who created the unrealistic expectations (In this case there are three
of them, each of which has only hurt his/herself.).

Jason W. Solinsky
From: buffum@sw.stratus.com (Jeff Buffum)
Newsgroups: alt.rhode_island
Subject: Re: Providence
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:34:32 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Aug20.021606.12709@samba.oit.unc.edu>, you write:
>      Your memory fails you.  I can only assume that you failed to
>  recongize the quote I mentioned.  
> 
My memory is quite clear having lived in the state for over 20 years!

>      Returning to North Carolina would require that I at some point
>  visit there.  Weather is a real stupid thing to get overly defensive
>  about.
> 
This would be a more believable reply if your own signature did not indicate
that you were a student in North Carolina at one time!  My reason for commenting
in an inflamatory manner was that you were giving very negative and erroneous 
information to someone planning on visiting our lovely state.
> 
>      F. Michael Theilig  -  RPG117@URIACC.URI.EDU
> --
>    The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
>      North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
>         Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
>            internet:  bbs.oit.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80

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From: jwilbur@iat.holonet.net (Jay Wilbur)
Newsgroups: alt.rhode_island
Subject: Re: RI Trivia Redux!
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:05:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)

cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) writes:
: In article <16rpc5INNbs5@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU>, plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak) writes:
: > The word "bubbler" ...
: > In fact, I've yet to hear the word used here. 
: 
: Well, look, you're at an Ivy League college.
: 
: I had a pronounced RI/Boston accent -- until I learned to suppress it
: after being giggled at by (non-local) classmates in a college in BOSTON.

Try laying a bit of RI accent out down here in Texas.


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From: roberts@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Bo Jackson)
Newsgroups: alt.rhode_island
Subject: Water Problems in RI
Date: 17 Aug 92 01:34:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Although it's not the greatest of news, I figured I 
would keep all you Rhode Islanders in touch with 
what is going on:

Article: 169 of clari.local.new_england
Subject: More boiling urged to cut water costs

	PAWTUCKET, R.I. (UPI) -- With an 11-day-old ban on drinking tap water
expected to stretch a month or more because of contamination problems,
the state Public Utilities Commission wants residents and businesses in
affected communities to boil more water and rely less on bottled water
distributed by the city.
	With the emergency nearly two weeks old in Pawtucket, Central Falls
and the Valley Falls Central of Cumberland, PUC Chairman James J.
Malachowski said people can't ignore the fact that the city is running
up a huge bill for buying bottled spring water.
	``I don't envy the people suffering through this problem,''
Malachowski said Thursday.
	The state Health Department imposed water-use restrictions after
potentially harmful levels of coliform bacteria were detected Aug. 3 in
the water system serving about 100,000 people. City officials say the
bottled water cost could be about $1 million if the restrictions remain
in effect for a month.
	Seeking financial help from the Federal Emergency Management Agency,
Gov. Bruce Sundlun signed an executive order Thursday declaring a state
of emergency in the areas served by the Pawtucket Water Supply Board.
	Officials suspect rust, sediment and bacteria spread throughout the
municipal water pipeline when old valves were closed as part of an $30
million effort to repair or replace portions of the municipal water
system, which dates to the 1870s.

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--
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University of Pennsylvania CSE '93              |  for glory, but the
Dining Philosophers Computer Science Group VP   |  tickets sold out in
ACACIA International Fraternity Brother         |  advance..." -- RUSH
Newsgroups: alt.rhode_island
From: reynhout@cs.uri.edu (Andrew Reynhout)
Subject: Re: CONFS
Organization: University of Rhode Island, Computer Science Dept.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 01:20:22 GMT

In article <132.22.uupcb@madness.network23.com> chris.mathis@madness.network23.com (Chris Mathis)  writes:
>-> what is wrong with parent/teens conf? there have been no
>-> msgs in two weeks time, even after the one i posted.
>-> is it a dead conference?
>-> ---
>-> . SLMR 2.1 . i don't do taglines, really!
>
> Yea I think it is. I'm gonna ge rid of some of the dead conferences and
>replace them with different ones. I also picked up another net.
>Genius Net. Terminal Madness is now the RI HUB. So there will be new
>conferences going in. Plus lots more Usenet...


   Bleh.  Please keep your BBS traffic away from the world-wide distribution
of USENET.

   Please do not follow up to this message without appropriately editing 
the distribution field.

   Sigh.

-- 
   Andrew <reynhout@cs.uri.edu>    "If you remind me of my dog,
                                    we'll probably get along"  -jane siberry
   meow
From: bpalmer@BBN.COM (Brian Palmer)
Newsgroups: alt.rhode_island
Subject: Great news for ferret lovers
Date: 18 Aug 1992 20:28:46 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Distribution: ne
Reply-To: bpalmer@BBN.COM (Brian Palmer)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

According to my sources, it is now legal to buy/sell ferrets
in Rhode Island!!  My local pet store has already ordered
some and is waiting for the forms.

Here's what I know:

	- a permit is still required

	- your pet store can do the paperwork
	  for you.

	- no children under 2 years old in the
	  household is still a restriction.

Brian
Newsgroups: alt.rhode_island
From: edr@gtech.com (Eric D. Remington)
Subject: Re: Great news for ferret lovers
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Distribution: ne
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 02:18:05 GMT

In article <l92nbuINNe5q@news.bbn.com> bpalmer@BBN.COM (Brian Palmer) writes:
>According to my sources, it is now legal to buy/sell ferrets
>in Rhode Island!!  My local pet store has already ordered
>some and is waiting for the forms.
>

    why all of the excitement over ferrets ? I have seen postings
    about ferrets in other groups as well ??
From: chris.mathis@madness.network23.com (Chris Mathis) 
Newsgroups: alt.rhode_island
Subject: CONFS
Date: 15 Aug 92 02:58:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Terminal Madness BBS - Newport, RI - 401-848-9069
Reply-To: chris.mathis@madness.network23.com (Chris Mathis) 

-> what is wrong with parent/teens conf? there have been no
-> msgs in two weeks time, even after the one i posted.
-> is it a dead conference?
-> ---
-> . SLMR 2.1 . i don't do taglines, really!

 Yea I think it is. I'm gonna ge rid of some of the dead conferences and
replace them with different ones. I also picked up another net.
Genius Net. Terminal Madness is now the RI HUB. So there will be new
conferences going in. Plus lots more Usenet...

*......................................................................*
 Chris Mathis
 UUCP  : chris.mathis@madness.network23.com        It's only a
 BBS   : Terminal Madness BBS                            hobby,
         Middletown, RI  USA                         It's only a
 Node1 : 401)848-9069  v32bis,v42bis 14400 bps              hobby...
 Node2 : 401-847-4902  v32bis,v42bis 14400 bps
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From: roberts@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Bo Jackson)
Newsgroups: alt.rhode_island
Subject: Casino Plans in RI ????
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:24:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I just got this off the New England Newsgroup :

Article: 161 of clari.local.new_england
Subject: State, town sue to halt Indian casino plan
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:53:36 GMT

	PROVIDENCE, R.I. (UPI) -- The state and the town of Charlestown filed
suit in federal court Tuesday to block a Narragansett Indians plan to
build a $25 million gambling casino on tribal land.
	The suit asks the court to rule that the federal Indian Claims
Settlement Act of 1978 continues to guarantee town and state
jurisdiction over tribal land. State law prohibits casino gambling.
	The tribe announced last month that it planned to build a $25 million
casino to help finance social, educational and economic programs for its
people. Opponents said the expected influx of 10,000 to 15,000 gamblers
a day would bring tremendous traffic and development pressures to rural
Charlestown and neighboring communities.
	The tribe contends a 1983 federal law formally recognizing the
Narragansetts as a tribe also gives them sovereign status, meaning that
neither the town nor the state can interfere with activity on tribal
lands. The federal Bureau of Indian Affairs supports that view.
	``It's desirable to have the courts resolve this matter as soon as
possible so the Narragansetts know where they stand,'' Gov. Bruce
Sundlun said.
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Why doesn't Bruce just allow it and charge the gamblers fifty bucks to
park or something so that the good ole crooks in the RI Government can
get a piece of the action????????????????

Cheers,
 Shawn


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University of Pennsylvania CSE '93              |  for glory, but the
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ACACIA International Fraternity Brother         |  advance..." -- RUSH
From: roberts@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Bo Jackson)
Newsgroups: alt.rhode_island
Subject: More Water Problems --
Date: 18 Aug 92 05:27:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

More problems with Rhody Water -- >

Article: 173 of clari.local.new_england
Subject: Another community copes with water contamination

	NORTH KINGSTOWN, R.I. (UPI) -- The state Health Department has
declared a water emergency affecting 60 percent of the residents of
North Kingstown because of bacteria levels found in one of the town's
two municipal well systems.
	The restriction, announced Saturday, came nearly two weeks after a
pipe replacement project triggered a system-wide ban on drinking
unboiled tap water affecting 100,000 people in Pawtucket, Central Falls
and the Valley Falls section of Cumberland.
	North Kingstown officials said they probably won't know until
Wednesday whether the fecal coliform bacteria that showed up in tests
last week will keep residents from drinking their tap water without
first boiling it at least five minutes. Nor do they know the cause of
the problem at this point.
	Residents and businesses tried to work around the problem Sunday. At
the Harborside Grille, owner Harry Delahunt posted an ``All Water
Boiled'' sign with a smiley face in his window. He also said he had
bottled water for any customer who wanted it.
	``We've got a great deal today,'' Delahunt said as he stood over the
grill. ``The Poland Springs Pancake Special.''
	The unrelated Pawtucket Water Supply problem is expected to last at
least a month. Officials suspect rust, sediment and bacteria spread
throughout the municipal water pipeline when old valves were closed as
part of an $30 million effort to repair or replace portions of the
shared water system, which dates to the 1870s.



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University of Pennsylvania CSE '93              |  for glory, but the
Dining Philosophers Computer Science Group VP   |  tickets sold out in
ACACIA International Fraternity Brother         |  advance..." -- RUSH
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