From: stank@perrault.unet.com (Stan Knight)
Subject: Re: Homophobes in the Military..what nobody is talking about: (Re: Gays in the Military..what nobody is talking about: )
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies, Redwood City
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:56:49 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.152046.4002@den.mmc.com> sims@possum.den.mmc.com (John Sims) writes:
>stank@perrault.unet.com (Stan Knight) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Dec9.224135.26248@den.mmc.com> sims@possum.den.mmc.com (John Sims) writes:
>>>I'd have to state the opposite.  We asked out daughter, who'd recently
>>>had the birds and the bees explained to her about any such information
>>>in our schools.  She asked us what we meant.  We said "books which talk
>>>about someone having two moms or two dads instead of a mom and a dad".
>>>She responded "That sounds weird to me".  We hadn't yet explained
>>>homosexuality to her, since we wanted her to have a good understanding of
>>>sexuality first.  So the subject simply hadn't come up until then.  So
>>>much for kids seeing nothing wrong with it.

>>>John Sims    sims@pogo.den.mmc.com

>>Well dddaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh John. Ask any child with little or no experience of
>>the real world about a family situation that they are unfamilar with and 
>>you're going to get this same answer. Your daughter has obviously not been
>>taught(or you for that matter)that there are childern in same-sex parents homes
>>which believe that your situation is "weird". Childern will always think that 
>>that which they observe daily is the norm everywhere up intil they observe
>>differently.["norm" being that which happens most often and should never be
>>confused with right or wrong]Common sense alone blows this argument out of
>>the water. 
>
>Hold on a minute!  A person earlier made the assertion that small
>children have no problem with same sex parents.  They seemed to be
>claiming that the big bad adults were indoctrinating children to be
>prejudiced against gays, and that this was not an innate prejudice, and
>offered some sort of "proof" effect.  I was merely stating that my
>daughter, without having been exposed to the subject previously, at
>least not by us, thought same sex parents were weird.  I didn't prompt
>her to say it.

>Do you really believe that children in same sex marriages are going to
>think they're in a "normal" situation when they ask mom/dad where they
>came from? 


You're probably wondering what that swishing sound was John. That was the
point of this whole discussion going right over your head. "Normal" to a 
child is whatever that child has experienced all of its life. Childern that
come from abusive households think that all childern are abused for their own
good. Childern that have parents that constantly fight think all married
couples constantly fight and on and on and on. Are you really argueing that
your daughter was born with a build-in prejudice?? Get real. Once more, now
listen very closely, ask any child about a situation that is different then
there own experiences and you're going to get the same answer your daughter
gave you. Back to my previous post---my daughter found it to be completely
unreal that most parents actually have similar skin colors. Is this "proof"
that color co-ordinated couples are "weird". Of course not, no more then you
asking your daughter an opinion on something completely out of her range of
experience. 

When a child with same sex parents(% wise this is rare)gets old enough to 
learn where babies come from they are going to think that a man and women get
together, make a baby, then split apart and the parent then finds someone of
the same sex to live with. To them this is normal right up intil their
experiences teach them different. Tell us John----is anything that you consider
not to be "normal" a bad thing??? That is what you have implied over and over.

Ask your daughter if she would play with another child who had 2 moms--see
what see says.


Stan Knight
|DNA knows not how to produce prejudices|
 
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