From: larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way)
Subject: Re: Rush burns Hillary, and other things...
Organization: New Mexico State University, MetaPhysical Science Laboratory
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 01:48:19 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.160022.1298@csus.edu> chaneysa@nextnet.ccs.csus.edu (Steve Chaney : Borg Operating Space Systems, Revision 2.0) writes:

   From the official Summary, 9-25-92:
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   Hillary Clinton did an interview with affiliate WWWE in
   Cleveland, and when she was asked about Rush Limbaugh's comments
   on her husband's lack of a college degree she laughed and replied
   "you know, Rush Limbaugh has this great racket going where he
   says whatever he wants to say regardless of the facts, because
   it, you know, it makes news and it's controversial. I mean that's
   how he makes his living." Hillary then laughs again.

   Rush marvels at Hillary's comment about "regardless of the
   facts." He picks up a copy of "The Life and Career of Bill
   Clinton" by Jonathan Portice and turns to page 31. Rush reads in
   this sympathetic biography the following:

   "Clinton looks back with mixed feelings about his decision to end
   his study at Oxford. _I kind of regret the fact that I never got
   a degree from Oxford. My class had the highest percentage of
   Rhodes scholars that never earned a degree because we were right
   there in the middle of the Vietnam War build-up.'

   "Clinton said the threat of being drafted into service in Vietnam
   practically dictated a students' curriculum. _We were over there
   changing courses three or four times because we knew we'd get a
   year and be done, and so ironically, at the end of my first year
   is when President Nixon started to wind the war down so there
   were only a couple of us who didn't get drafted.' "

   Thus, the facts are simple - Clinton didn't get a degree, not to
   mention that Clinton's class had an 80% graduation rate for its
   Rhodes scholars, which is the average at Oxford. Rush is pleased
   to say that Hillary also met up with a Rush Limbaugh poster in
   Colorado, and he promises to tell that tale later in the show.
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   Okay, folks, someone please show me where Hillary was right on this issue?
   Rush Limbaugh was directly challenged over Gov. Bill Clinton's education,
   and he read it right out of the biography.

Well, Hillary's broad statement of opinion: "you know, Rush Limbaugh has 
this great racket going where he says whatever he wants to say regardless 
of the facts, because it, you know, it makes news and it's controversial. 
I mean that's how he makes his living." is pretty subjective. And you
haven't shown it to be absolutely false; many people hold a similar
opinion and will agree that Rush does say what he wants regardless of the
facts. We get arguments continuing in this newgroup all the time over the
"facts" and Rush's alleged distortion of them. 

And, it may well be possible that Clinton has *some* college degree from
somewhere, besides Oxford. If I were Rush Limbaugh, I'd be sure that
Clinton didn't have some lesser degree in a minor or even some honorary
degree or "mailorder" degree or equivalent degree, before I made such 
an absolute statement. (Which Rush probably did.)

And, even if Clinton has no degree of any kind, and you are absolutely
convinced that Hillary was wrong in her statement of her opinion, relative
to this one fact, how big a deal is it? Who really gives a rat's ass? In
the grand scheme of things, what is the relevance of it and its possible
significance? (Oh yeah: another nit against the "character" of the Demos
and their spouses..)

If this is the most severe complaint you can come up with about Bill
Clinton (his wife was wrong when she said that Rush lied when Rush said
Bill had no college degree) then we haven't got much to argue about, do we? 

   Methinks Hillary needs to be brought up on the national media to explain
   how she was so badly exposed by Rush Limbaugh.

That might be interesting. And while we are at it, can we bring up several
others, maybe even some who are running for office (like our VP) to answer
some of the wild statements and errors they make. (Oh, I forgot, the evil
liberal media DO that, don't they?) 

Hillary really isn't a candidate, although Pat Buchanan and his ilk seem 
to be terribly worried about her anyway.

Also, speaking of such things, I still think it would be quite interesting
for Rush to interview Bill or Al or even Hillary on his show. Here would
indeed be a perfect opportunity for Rush to display his giant intellect
and put these evil liberals on the hot seat for us all to see. But,
consider that Rush sometimes can't even handle an occasional semi-
intelligent *liberal* caller who makes it through his "airworthiness" 
gantlet - he just drops them like a hot potato as soon as they start to
counter him. So, how would he do with someone who is experienced in
debating and manages to keep a cool head? Nah, I don't think you are going
to see any direct confrontations between Rush and the demo candidates,
certainly not on his show.

   Has anyone seen Hillary Clinton? She looks like a headband-wearing ultra
   feminist with a cackle that is totally inhuman. I cannot imagine what the
   White House will look like when she gets finished..

Of course someone has seen Hillary Clinton! (Probably even you..) And you
have some real objective criticisms of her there, partner? It wasn't very
tasteful for someone to say that Marilyn Quayle reminded them of Mr. Ed
either! (It wasn't me..)

I have a feeling that you will get a chance to see what the White House
looks like when Hillary gets finished soon..

   The Top Ten Reasons Why You'll Know Something's Changed in the White House
   If Bill & Hill Get Elected:
   10) Peace symbols are spray-painted all over the walls.
   9) There's a women's - whoops, WOMYN's health center on the back lawn.
   8) All the wall portraits of the male Presidents of the US, have been
   replaced by female feminist leaders, starting with the Presidents of the
   NOW, NARAL, and Planned Parenthood.
   7) There is a White House Pool full of dolphins comprising the majority 
   of the Clinton administration, at Al Gore's request.
   6) There's a signed congressional bill on Hillary's - whoops - Bill's
   desk - changing the wording on all currency from "In God We Trust"
   to "We're Fierce, We're Feminist, and We're in Your Face!"
   5) An altar made for the "God of the Spotted Owls," tended by the High
   Priest - er, um, Vice President, Al Gore. 
   4) Tipper and Hillary are locked in mortal combat over who's the most
   bra-burning feminist in the White House. (News at 11.)
   3) ACT-UP's leadership has a room in the White House because they are the
   new administrators of US AIDS policy.
   2) The faint trace of pot fumes and a disclaimer on the front door: "I
   didn't inhale."
   1) The White House is gone and instead there is a gigantic building
   made of environmentally correct recycled cardboard, in its place. Spray
   painted with peace symbols.

I'm sure you think this is all extremely funny, but if I were you I
wouldn't give up my day job to write for Letterman just yet. 

With your degree of hebetude, it's very clear to see why you're not 
a Democrat, Steve.

L.

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