HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: morse@satie.cs.unc.edu (Bryan Morse)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Heisman Criteria
Date: 3 Sep 92 13:38:32 GMT
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

In article <3388.382.uupcb@brent.uucp> al.sorhaindo@brent.uucp (Al Sorhaindo) writes:
>VR> Ahem...the score was 65-14, A&M...
>
>Ok, I stopped watching when it was 52-14.

That's okay.  The only one taking it seriously after that was Slocum. ;-)


-- 
Bryan Morse                University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
morse@cs.unc.edu           Department of Computer Science
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: johndoe@squid.inmet (johndoe)
Subject: Re: Colorado update
Organization: Intermetrics, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:09:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.002334.7640@den.mmc.com> kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers) writes:
>   After leading the nation in kickoff returns in '89 (and ranking second
>   in punt returns), CU plummeted to 101st in '91 (right behind Oklahoma,
>   Texas, Miami, and Washington :-).  McCartney has assigned both return
>   teams to a single assistant, defensive line coach Bob Simmons, instead
>   of splitting the jobs between coaches.  More importantly, the return men
>   will specialize in one of the two; unfortunately, the competition is
>   being limited to the receivers, even though FS Chris Hudson had the
>   team's longest return last year.  Michael Westbrook, who's been the most
>   productive pass catcher, is also the early favorite to return kick-offs.

certainly mike pritchard's departure had something to do with this decline.
i remember seeing statistical comparisons of how he had better averages in
many categories than heisman(n)(SP?) trophy winner rocket ismail.  hagan
tried to do the punt return thang last year, often rather effectively, but
in the games he was dealing with injuries in, this proved to be as much of a
drawback as anything because of the lack of experience among the backups.

-johndoe
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kaufman@watson.bms.com (Jonathan Kaufman)
Subject: MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY-SCHEDULE
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Bristol Myers Squibb Pharmaceutical Research Institute
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:02:00 GMT

Does anyone know this seasons MSU football schedule?  



Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: acdendy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY)
Subject: Re: Erickson,Spurrier,Bowden
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date:  1 Sep 1992 14:22 EST  

In article <67365@hydra.gatech.EDU>, mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes...
>acdendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY) wrote:
>}
>}time and whatever money they can earn.
>          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
>Okay, how does a football player earn money?  Name one single way a
>football player can earn money uder NCAA rules.
> 

Well, I'm not the world expert on NCAA rules.  And I've seen a few posts 
here which seem to conflict somewhat.  But, perhaps they could work on 
those weekends that the coaches are so worried about them being bored.  If 
working isn't allowed, then maybe it should be.  They could get summer jobs. 
Or money from their parents.  Or loans, or grants, maybe even scholarships. 
Seems to me they have all the same options other students have, and then some.

>}Football is not a job.  Football is an extra-curricular activity, in which 
>}participation is its own reward ...
> 
>Football is big business.  The players out on the field are generating
>ungodly amounts of money and are being grossly undercompensated for it.
> 

If they are undercompensated, then why are there huge numbers of wishing, 
dreaming of getting the chance to play?

>If participation in collegiate athletics is its own reward:
>    
>(1) Why do we pay the coaches, athletic directors, sports information
>    directors, trainers, team doctors, etc. etc. etc.? 
> 

Do you propose that we offer scholarships to coaches and team doctors?  Or 
are you suggesting that they should be "student-coaches" and be required to 
be amateurs?  Coaches are teachers, and as such are paid professionals.  At 
the University level, it is not unreasonable that they coach full-time, 
rather than being drawn from the faculty at large on a volunteer basis.  
Athletic directors, etc., are administrators.  You don't get any argument 
from me that most Universities should spend less on paying their 
administrators.


>(2) Why do we give scholarships at all?  Particularly to athletes in 
>    non-revenue sports?
> 

If college athletics is nothing but a business, why do we give scholarships 
to athletes in non-revenue sports?  When implementing your system of paying 
players, do you base the amount on how much they bring in?

I don't know all the reasons why athletic scholarships were invented.  
Maybe the Ivy League can address this question better than I can.  Among the 
reasons, I know, is the need to give students an opportunity to attend 
college who wouldn't otherwise have had the chance.  Not among them is the 
desire to become a minor league for professional football and basketball 
leagues.


>And don't count on the WLAF to be a true
>minor league for the NFL, in fact it is not doing well financially and
>may be scrapped soon.

I'm not counting on it, but at this point it's the best hope we have.

> 
>-- 
>Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
> 

R Dendy
From: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Stanford vs A&M
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:09:39 GMT
Reply-To: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Florida State University

In article <pxcnc7c.dchuk@netcom.com> dchuk@netcom.com (Denise Chuk) writes:
>Well, A&M did beat Stanford last night, but I would say a really BAD, and I
>mean BAAAAADD call by the zebras helped too.  A turnover in such a close
>game sure can made a big difference.  (I don't mean to belittle A&M's win, 
>but the stupid call really could, and IMHO did affect the outcome.)
>Go Stanford!

Whew! I was beginning to get rather worried.

But now I see there was no cause for alarm. The whining has already
started, albeit a little behind schedule.

David Poore
poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu
From: stricher@masig.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: INFO ON TEXAS PRACTICES
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:43:00 GMT
Distribution: usa

John R. Boisseau (Jay) writes

+ over OU (it could happen) and TCU over Miami (I'm not religious, but I
+ may have to pray before this one).

If TCU beats Miami, many a Blowhard will drown themselves in Biscayne
Bay....

James - it could happen
From: stricher@masig.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Heisman Criteria
Date: 27 Aug 92 22:09:21 GMT
Distribution: na

Vince Rhee writes
+ Our own al.sorhaindo@brent.uucp (Al Sorhaindo) states :
+ >
+ >Heisman winners have had a terrible record recently in Bowl games.

+ >1990: Texas A & M 52 BYU 14. Detmer is knocked out of the game, but not
+ >before throwing a few interceptions. Just hours after he won the Heisman
+ >Detmer's favored BYU squad is routed by Hawaii 59-28 with Ty tossing
+ >four completions to the wrong side.

+ 	Ahem...the score was 65-14, A&M...

He's probably thinking last year's Pigskin Classic - FSU 52 BYU twenty
something [I think].

+ >1987: Tim Brown and Notre Dame are ruined by an underdog A & M team.
+ >1985: Bo Jackson's Auburn Tigers are upset in the cotton bowl. 
+ 	Hmmm, I wonder what the common thread with these three
+ 	Heisman "winners" is...let me see, what could it be? :-)

Gee, I dunno. ;)

James
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: "Sid Kitchel" <kitchel@moose.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: ATM Graduation Rates
Keywords: n
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 09:58:09 -0500

zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace) writes:

>I kinda flew off the handle yesterday on this one...  but it just irks me
>to see this kind of stuff.  What really irks me is the Texas Legislature
>forcing me as an engineering student to take an additional 9 hours of 
>liberal arts to "round out my education"; thus totalling my degree plan
>to 170+ hours (double aerospace/computing science), so I just went to 

	HEY!!! Some history and Shakespeare will be good for you
engineering geeks!! Don't blame the illustrious, clean and highly
intellectual Texas legislature. Blame the outdated and stupid ABET
requirements for the size of the engineering part of your course load.
	I once was involved with designing a computer engineering
curriculum. The computer scientists on the committee got pretty tired
of hearing that we couldn't increase the computer science or liberal
arts content because it would violate ABET guidelines.

							--Sid
-- 
Sidney W. Kitchel  	    kitchel@cs.indiana.edu, kitchel@dpsi.com
Data Parallel Systems, Inc.  ============||  DPSI  ||===============
4617 E. Morningside Drive	                      (812) 334-8100
Bloomington, Indiana,  47408  USA		FAX:  (812) 334-8121
From: bobhurt@carson.u.washington.edu (Bob Hurt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: TOP 10 TEAM'S EASIEST SCHEDULE: UW's Schedule
Summary: Go Huskies!
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:12:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Sep2.231209.17327
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Here is the University of Washington's 1992 schedule:

Sept. 5   @ Arizona State
Sept. 12  WISCONSIN
Sept. 19  NEBRASKA
Sept. 26  bye
Oct.  3   USC
Oct.  10  CALIFORNIA
Oct.  17  @ Oregon
Oct.  24  PACIFIC (!)
Oct.  31  STANFORD
Nov.  7   @ Arizona
Nov.  14  OREGON STATE
Nov.  21  Apple Cup @ Washington State


Unless my arithmetic is off, that's 7 home games and only 4 away games;
those being ASU (sans QBs), Oregon, Arizona and WSU.  At home, Nebraska,
USC, California and Stanford will be tough games, but in all likelyhood
the U-Dub will be favored by a touchdown or more if they don't lose any
games before that.  It's not what I'd call an "easy" schedule, but for 
as talented a team as the UW is it is certainly a schedule where they 
could be 11-0 after the season is over.

On a scale of 1-10, I give the UW schedule a 5.

--Bob Hurt
  bobhurt@u.washington.edu
From: wlittle@nmsu.edu (Wes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: NMSU Aggies
Date: 3 Sep 92 00:55:47 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.football.college
Organization: NMSU Computer Science

Just wondering how you guys view the New Mexico State Aggies this
year.  Opinions????  I know I know this is NOT a national championship
team but what the heck I happened to have played here last year and am
a student here...I am just wondering what the general concensus is on
this team as far as do you think they have improved how well do you
guys think they will do this year...opening game Saturday against
Weber State...comments??
From: bdlaugh@athena.mit.edu (Corn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Kickoff classic Iowa-NCSU
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:42:03 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Aug25.194242.23314@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug25.185917.17818@colorado.edu> manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Njan) writes:
|> >In article <3134.382.uupcb@brent.uucp> al.sorhaindo@brent.uucp (Al Sorhaindo)  writes:
|> >>Prediction: The Big 10 hasn't had a great out of conference record and
|> >>NC state always seems to play everyone tough. NCSU 21-20.
|> 
|> Well, Njan, ill take it even further. Iowa is a big time program, whereas
|> NCSU is an Acc upstart. When was the last time an NCSU regular season game
|> was on national television? I think NCSU will be much much more freaked out
|> by the situation than Iowa.
|> 
|> Iowa by 27, maybe more.
|> 
|> Remember when Virginia was an upstart team, bursting with optimism, and 
|> playing Notre Dame in the KC? That was the most lopsided game Id ever seen.
|> While I think the difference in talent between the two schools is not as
|> great as it was in 1989, the situation will be similar, and Iowa will win
|> handily.
|> 
|> -rob
|> 

I appreciate the accolades, but as someone who has painfully followed the
Hawkeyes for the past decade or so, I must disagree.  Anyone else remember Iowa's
last appearance in the KO Classic and Tennessee's 99 yard return of an
intercepted HAND OFF/PITCH OUT?  There was a time when these kinds of things
caused me great anguish, but I've come to understand and accept them as sort-of
inevitable.

My point: Iowa may have reached the status of "big-time" program, but they also
make big-time mistakes in these kinds of games.  Expect them to make more than
their share Saturday.

Prediction: 20-20 Tie.

_________________________________________________________________________________
bdlaugh@athena.mit.edu                 |   GO HAWKS!!
                                       |   Rose Bowl Champs 1957 & 1959!!
                                       |  (1982?  1986?  1991?)
From: tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: To all rabid Aggie fans
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:48:07 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

scott@ods.com (Scott Harper) writes:

>Todd Henderson (tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
>: I missed the first half, but from what I heard their first drive was:
>: 
>: 1.  A big play on a punt return.
>: 2.  A whole 2 offensive plays
>: 
>: to me, that doesn't make much of a first drive.  Correct me if I'm wrong
>: on their scoring drive.

>While what you described did comprise their scoring drive, it wasn't
>their "first drive".  $tanfraud took the opening kickoff, and moved
>approximately 65 yds.  Following a sack of Stenstrom on the first play
>from scrimmage, the drive was aided by some nice pass completions, and
>a personal foul penalty against the Aggies.  The drive ended around the
>A&M 15 yard line when Buckley blitzed, got to the QB, forced a fumble,
>and recovered it himself.  Incidently, if you take this 65 yard drive
>away, the Cardinal offense was even more inept than the Aggies...

My apologies to all.  I missed the game and wrongly assumed that people
were talking about the scoring 'drive' when they were talking about the
first drive.

(The local Illinois stations in their infinite wisdom didn't deem the game
worth their broadcast time!  I hate this place!)

Todd

>-- 
>Scott Harper                       Optical Data Systems, Inc.
>scott@ods.com                      1101 E. Arapaho Road
>(214) 234-6400                     Richardson, TX  75081
From: bjm1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Bobbie J. Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Top 25 SUBMISSION
Date: 27 Aug 92 06:03:06 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Mississippi State University

rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:

>Sorry to have to post this, but mail to ADDRESS@WLSU (or whatever the address
>was on the post about this) isnt good enuf for my system. So, unable to use
>the 'r' key, I must post my top 25, and subject it to the ridicule and woofing
>of r.s.f.c fans:


>1. Florida St.
>   Miami   (tie, to be determined when they meet)
>3. Washington
>4. Florida
>5. Penn St.
>6. Alabama
>7. Michigan
>8. Stanford
>9. Iowa
>10. Tx A&M
>11. Notre Dame
>12. Clemson

Arkansas at 13?  I can deal with that prediction!

GO HOGS!!!!!

Roland

A
A
A
>13. Arkansas
>14. Oklahoma
>15. Nebraska
>16. Tenessee
>17. E. Carolina
>18. Ohio St.
>19. Virginia
>20. Tx Tech
>21. Ga Tech
>22. NCSU
>23. Michigan St.
>24. Auburn
>25. Navy

>DISCLAIMERS: I do not read prediction mags, etc. so this poll is based on
>many things, inlcuding my impressions from last season, gut feelings, and
>personal likes and dislikes, but not on scouting reports. Obviously, ND
>is probably a top 10 team, but its nice to see a poll that puts them not
>in the top ten. As for Navy, hell they deserve a vote.

>This poll is probably no more of a work of fantasy than any other pre-season
>poll. I hope whoever is doing this continues this during the season: it 
>would be nice to have a r.s.f.c. poll to compare to AP and UPI. Plus,
>rfsc's poll will show a greater diversity of woofin--i mean, viewpoints.

>-rob
From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: College Football TV Listings
Date: 1 Sep 92 01:27:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.37507
Distribution: na

In article <1992Aug31.200843.10591@alc.com>, stassen@alc.com (Chris Stassen) writes:
> 
> [All listed times are Pacific, some games may be local only, but I can't
>  tell from the listing.]

Thanks for the list, Chris.

Lets see what the doozy [potential] match-ups are;
[Warning: might.. no. Will be filled with WestCoastBias (tm)]

>  9/05:	 
> 	 5:00pm		ABC	Miami at Iowa

Might as well see how good Miami is this year.


>  9/10:	 4:45pm		ESPN	San Diego State at BYU

This one finished 52-52 last year [I was at the stadium for this
wild, wild, wild one!!]. Gotta see the re-match!

>  9/12:	 
> 	10:00am		NBC	Michigan at Notre Dame

Revenge?


>  9/19:	 
> 	 6:30pm		ESPN	Nebraska at Washington

Interesting to see how much Washington wins by. #)

> 
>  9/26:	 
> 	10:00pm		SC	BYU at Hawaii

Tough one for BYU. They *always* have trouble at Hawaii, who are
just too quick for the lumbering stiffs on the Cougars defense.

> 10/03:	 
> 	10:00am		NBC	Stanford at Notre Dame

Stanford returns to the scene of their massive upset 2 years ago,
minus TD Tommy.

> 10/10:	 
> 	 7:30pm		ESPN	Stanford at UCLA

Great Pac-10 matchup, might decide 2nd place team in the Pac-10.


> 10/24:	 
> 	10:00am		NBC	BYU at Notre Dame

Boy BYU sure plays a tough non-conf schedule. Air-BYU vs.
Ground-Bettis? 

> 11/14:	 
> 	10:00am		NBC	Penn State at Notre Dame

Always a doozy, Holtz vs. Paterno.


> 11/26:	
> 	TBA		ESPN	Texas A&M at Texas

Depends on how good [or bad?] Texas is this year.


> 11/27:	10:30am		ABC	Nebraska at Oklahoma

Big BIG 8 game.

> 11/28:	 
> 	 5:00pm		ABC	Notre Dame at Southern Cal

Big rivalry game. Close games have been the norm in the past few
years.

> 12/30:	 5:00pm		ESPN	Holiday Bowl (WAC #1 vs. Big Ten #3)

Whatever be the teams, the Holiday Bowl has consistently provided
the exciting and thrilling games.


Disc.: IMO



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| U. of California @ San Diego | prash@raman.ucsd.edu |
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From: crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Minor League Football (Re: Paying athletes)
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:44:17 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (david j warner) writes:
>
>I think we can make a good argument for the NFL creating a minor league farm
>system, especially now with free agency in the courts.  Let's take the kids
>who are interested in playing football and help them develop their skills in
>the minors while they get paid for it at the same time.  Every other major
>team sport has a minor league system of some kind (baseball and hockey are the
>most developed, while the NBA has deals with the CBA and GBA), and most of
>those teams are actually pretty successful.  If the NFL is so concerned that
>free agency will destroy the league, they'll do something to offset that loss.
>Why not a minor league?  Besides, wouldn't some of you pro fans like to send
>Bubby Brister back to Tidewater every once in a while?
>
Isn't this more or less what the WLAF is?  The NFL pays money to support
those teams, and most teams ask the borderline players to spend the
offseason in the WLAF to improve themselves.  The biggest difference, IMHO
is that baseball teams have their own AAA club, whereas WLAF teams are
conglomerates of different players from different teams.  This is really
just an administrative detail, however.

****************************************************************************
Cliff Slaughterbeck           * 
Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   Hey Matt!  The diffusion pump is full of
University of Washington      *   water again!
Seattle, WA 98195             *
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From: wks_sup@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (Workstation Support)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: LSU is a great univ (was Re: A&M-LSU  (was: Re: NCSU!))
Keywords: nnn
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:25:02 GMT
Organization: Chevron

That nice guy (CJohn Mace) writes:
>>
>>Hi.
>>
>>I am new to all of this net stuff -- in fact, this is my first post.  I think 
>>its really neat-o and I like talking to you guys.
>>
>>Those nice Texas Aggies will beat the Tigers by at least 42.  
>>
>>Oh, the Aggies are neat-o, too.  In fact, if I were an Aggie fan, I'd bet 
>>that mean ol' J.J. fella all kinds of meals and money *and* give him the 42 points.
>>
>>I mean, who does he think he is.

>I will have two of what this individual is smoking!!!  :-)  And a 
>Dee-lux gore-met cheeez-burger from Carl's JR!   :-)
>
>cmuck

Hi.

Are you saying I'm smoking an illegal substance?  I certainly heauxpe --er,..--
*hope* not...

Hey, this posting stuff is fun.  (Don't try to guess who I am--and don't be confused by my machine address, I don't even kneaux that mean ol' J.J.)

No hints in *this* .sig:
-- 
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    CEPS/TSD/CSD/CISS/Workstation Support Unit
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett)
Subject: Re: Where the pro-ACC stand ends
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 04:13:09 GMT

chee1jz@Rosie.UH.EDU writes:



>	But some big Tallahassee rednecks started a couple of fights outside
>tigertown, making the 15.5 hour drive worthwhile.

Now this is a example of pure BS.  Sour grapes......  



















>	Larry Fore			COMMS:
>					chee1jz@jetson.uh.edu
>					lbfore@uh.edu
>					(713) 743-4338
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Records? was: Defense & Heisman Trophy
Date: 29 Aug 92 19:08:51 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

cooperr@a.cs.okstate.edu (COOPER ROBERT BRYA) wrote:
}
}As far as I can tell in 1990 (the year Ty Detmer won) he only held
}a three records.  In 1990, what Detmer did to the record books 
}was a drop in the bucket compared to what David Klingler did.

You can't tell very far then.  At the end of the 1990 season (according
to the Official 1991 NCAA Record Book), the number of records held
by each of the 3 QB's in question was:

Ty Detmer:        48
Andre Ware:        9
David Klingler:   37

So in terms of sheer number of records - which seemed to be your beef -
Detmer had substantially more than Klingler.  A number of Klinger's
records were things like "Most passes attempted in a half" and
"Most passes attempted in a season" whereas Ty Detmer held records
for really important areas like "Most yards gained per attempt - season",
"Most yards gained per attempt - career", "Most consecutive games throwing
a TD pass", and "Most consecutive games gaining 300 yards or more."

As to Ware, I presume most of his records were broken by Klingler.

Of course, I never said that the Heisman Trophy winner should be
the player with the most records.  My point was simply that Detmer
set a hell of a lot of NCAA records, which is an excellent way to 
win the award.   Klingler was a worthy candidate as well, but he
had the misfortune of going head-to-head with the king of the record
smashers, Ty Detmer.  He also had a bunch of other things going against
him, like not playing on TV, having the biggest butthole in the NCAA for
a coach, and following another Heisman winner.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
"Distant cousins, there's a limited supply ...
                                           big-eyed beans from Venus!"
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: bjm1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Bobbie J. Mann)
Subject: Re: Auburn/Ole Miss - Prelude
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 06:11:06 GMT

Billy might surprise you, so look out...but I still think Auburn
will come out on top!

Pig Soooiieeee!

(That's an Arkansas call, you'll hear it soon enough :)

Roland