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From: ojtv@phoenix.oulu.fi (Olli Vuolteenaho)
Subject: Re: Software to make Greeting Cards
Organization: University of Oulu, Finland
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 07:09:49 GMT

Ajay K Dhawan (akd4@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu) wrote:
: I am looking for MSDOS/Windows software to make greeting cards on my PC.
: I can use a Windows drawing package like Coreldraw, but I wanted to know
: if there was any software specifically for making greeting cards.
: 
: If you know of anything that I can use, please reply via e-mail to:
: 
: 		adk4@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
: 
: Thank you in advance.

My kids love "The New Print Shop" from Broderbund. It's a DOS application and
I heard that there is a brand new version with many novel features.

Olli
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From: lb05gate@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Rick Gates)
Newsgroups: comp.text
Subject: It all started with an idea...
Date: 13 Jan 93 00:12:37 GMT


At the risk of flames, he steps in...

Ok here's how it all started.  See if this sounds familiar...

I'm new to Unix, and I immediately hated both the default mailer, and
vi.  Whilst searching for another editor, I discovered that some
previous sys administ. had installed Emacs.  Two weeks later, I
discovered the Rmail facility.  What an improvement!

But ever the dissatified one, it's a few months later, and some things
are starting to bug me.  In particular, I want yank-mail-original to
use a single '>' for the fill prefix instead of an indent 3.  No
problem, I'll just get ahold of the elisp documentation, and figure
out how to patch that puppy myself right?

Now were getting down to it.  Trouble is, the elisp documentation is
written in a device-independent format called TeXInfo.  No problem,
that's what free software's all about right?

So my next move is to get ahold of the TeXInfo docs from MIT, and try
to install that.  Well, no dice, at least partly because it tries to
write to directories that I don't have write access to.

Next stop, trying to get TeX, then LaTeX.  Now I actally managed to
get a copy to load onto my DOS 486, (called emTeX), but there's no
Docs that tell how to use it.

I checked all the FAQs I could find, both in comp.text, and
comp.text.tex, and there's nothing that describes how to get up and
running with all this.  Aaaarrgh..

To finally cut this off, question is, is there a simpler way that I
can view/print/download/absorb the elisp docs?

(More than) Nuff said!

Rick Gates				"Where little ideas blossom
UC Santa Barbara			 into big problems..."
lb05gate@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu
--
Rick Gates				(805) 893-7225
Dir. of Library Automation
Univ. of California Library
Santa Barbara, CA  93106		lb05gate@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu
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From: pepper@falch.no (Steve Pepper)
Newsgroups: comp.text,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.editors,comp.text.desktop
Subject: Re: Help on locating word processor file formats book
Date: 6 Jan 93 12:07:44 GMT
Organization: Falch Hurtigtrykk as, Oslo, Norway

artc@world.std.com (Art Campbell) writes:

>Several years ago, I got two books, PC File Formats and More PC File Formats
>that may be what you're looking for. I don't have either volume here at work,

I have them on the shelf in front of me:

Jeff Waldon: File Formats for Popular PC Software (1986) 0-471-83671-0
Jeff Waldon: More File Formats for Popular PC Software (1987) 0-471-85077-2

The first covers Symphony (1.0 & 1.1), Ability (1.0), MultiMate (3.30),
WordStar (2.2x-3.31), WordStar 2000 (1.01), plus a few spread sheet and
data base formats.

The second volume covers FrameWork (1.0, 1.1), Rich Text Format,
Volkswriter 3 (1.0) and WordPerfect (4.1), plus plus.

There is also a book called "PC Formats" (or something like that) from
a publisher I don't remember the name of, but it doesn't cover any WP
formats not covered by the Waldon books.

For more up to date information, you'll need to go straight to the horses'
mouths. Some vendors part willingly with their format specifications,
others refuse point blank, while some ask you to sign a non-disclosure
agreement.

If there are specific formats you are looking for, email me and I may
be able to help.

Cheers,

Steve

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From: dvc@eagle.hr.att.com (David Van Cleef)
Subject: Re: Oxford - Dictionaries
Originator: news@cbnewsb.cb.att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:52:36 GMT

>>>>> On Thu, 7 Jan 1993 13:21:24 GMT, nenaas@ulrik.uio.no (Nils-Eivind Naas) said:
NN> Nntp-Posting-Host: ulrik

NN> In article <1993Jan7.022358.17046@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> ouij@triples.math.mcgill.ca (Luigi Perrotta) writes:

>    I think a long time ago (circa 1990) I remembered
>    reading about a project out of university of waterloo
>    in which they were doing a comphresive effort to put
>    the complete oxford english dictionary into an
>    electronic format.  Has this been done?

NN> Yes, the OED 2. edition is out. It is available from Oxford University Press.

NN> It is NOT cheap.

Cheap is a relative term.  It is about 1/3 of the cost of the paper edition.

The first edition OED on CD, even with its clunky retrieval software,
was an incredibly useful item for a writer friend of mine, and he
considered it money well spent.

Incidentally, setting that one up was fun.  He had one of the first
dozen of the first Phillips CD-ROM drives imported into the states.
You know you're going to be having fun when you see serial numbers
that low...
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From: dfox@quack.sac.ca.us (David Fox)
Subject: how to print certain Postscript documents with gs
Keywords: gs ghostscript TeX Postscript
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
Date: 6 Jan 1993 03:43:32 UTC

[Apologies if this is not the proper newsgroup. ]
 
I've been using GNU ghostscript 2.52 on my 386BSD system to print
various manual pages, troff -Tps sources, and papers on my 24 pin
dot matrix printer.  Mostly these print rather smoothly.

Lately, I've got a few postscript documents (like dvips.ps) and other
papers that have been initially created in TeX, apparently with dvips,
and ghostscript doesn't like them.  In particular, the top line says
PS-Adobe 2.0 instead of PS-Adobe 1.0, and they look quite a bit
different than the postscript I'm used to.  Ghostscript errors out
usually with "undefined error -rangecheck in get".

Is there something I'm missing?  Do I need a patch or some other
conversion utility to print this flavor of Postscript?

--
David Fox
dfox@quack.sac.ca.us
From: davidl@ssd.intel.com (David Levine)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Is there an easy way to get a page count?
Keywords: FBC pagecount
Date: 11 Jan 93 20:48:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division (SSD), Intel

(Sorry for the followup post.  I tried to send mail, but "meadow.uucp"
is not a usable address.)

>We've got a large number of book files, each with several chapter
>files of varying length, all using folio-by-chapter numbering 
>(page 1-2 follows 1-1, Chapter two pages are numbered 2-1, 2-2, etc.).
>
>We need to get estimates on-the-fly for the page count for an arbitrary
>set of these books, in order to plan binder sizes, etc.
>
>We can figure out the manual method (open each file, check number of
>pages, add to running total), but we're hoping there's an easier way.
>
>Does anyone have a suggestion?
>
>Please email me and I'll summarize any responses for the group.

Try this:

  1. Print the book to a PostScript file.

  2. Use the following command:

       egrep -c '%%Page:' <file>.ps

It's a bit of a hack, but it's fairly easy to use and it works.  Two
caveats: it may need more disk space than you've got to print the whole
book to a PostScript file, and you must wait for the background print
process to complete before you can do the "egrep -c".  (If the "egrep
-c" comes up zero, wait a minute and try it again.

- David D. Levine, Intel Supercomputer Systems Division == davidl@ssd.intel.com
  "I don't mind, the thing that bothers me is SOMEONE KEEPS MOVING MY CHAIR!"
From: kahler@delab.sintef.no (Bo Kahler)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: mailmerge
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:50:50 GMT
Reply-To: Bo.Kahler@delab.sintef.no
Organization: SINTEF DELAB, Trondheim, Norway.

I like the approach suggested by Frame posted to list earlier. I tried
it and have a problem aligning the text. If the approach is used as in
the letter example, it is faily straight forward. But, say that the
master page contained the first part of the salutation "Dear " and we
wanted to import only the first name "Jim" (still written as a separate
line in the file as before, so no reuse of first name in the addressee
line). We the get the problem of creating a column in which the text
(first name) is aligned with the text of the salutation ("Dear ").

The problem can figuratively (for those not having decoded the mailmerge
document) be desribed as follows:


   !------------------!           The layout shows a large text column
   ! Line 1           !           containing the text: Line1, Line 2,... 
   ! Line 2 !---!     !           and a second text column containing  
   ! Line 3 !abc!     !           the text: abc
   ! Line 4 !---!     !
   ! Line 5           !
   !------------------!

Now the question is, how do I ensure that "abc" is aligned with "Line 3"?

-- 
Regards,

Bo Kahler                              E-mail: kahler@delab.sintef.no
SINTEF DELAB                           Phone: +47-7-593175
N-7034  Trondheim                      Fax: +47-7-532586
Norway
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: harding@sun444.nas.nasa.gov (Steve Harding)
Subject: Re: UNIX-PC-UNIX Conversion - How?
Organization: NASA/Ames Research Center
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 19:02:24 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1iv3fvINNeui@male.EBay.Sun.COM> robert1@sabu.EBay.Sun.COM (Bob S.- Contractor) writes:
>I want to take my Frame files from Sun at work and work on them at home on Windows and  then take them back to the Sun platform. Frame says I have to buy a $300 program called Common-Link to convert the disks to the other format. I had always believed that this could be done within Frame. The manual is no help. If anyone out there is working from    UNIX to Windows and back, please let me know how you do it. Thanks

What Sun platform are you using?  If it is a SPARC with a floppy drive,
there is a PD DOS emulator that you can use to transfer files from your
Sun to the floppy and back.

This, BTW, is not done within Frame.

steve
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From: don@mars.dgrc.doc.ca (Donald McLachlan)
Subject: Sun keyboard mapping in imakerenglish Ver 3.1X
Reply-To: don@mars.dgrc.doc.ca
Organization: Communication Research Centre
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 16:26:13 GMT

Sorry if this is silly, but I cannot figure out what is wrong.

I have modified my Maker file to include ...

	Maker.kbmapVendor:              kbmaps/kbmap.sun

and my cut key still does not cut.  What is the matter?  Am I expecting the wrong
action?  I would like it to cut just like the menu selection "Edit->Cut (!ex)",
which is sort of functionally equivilant to the Openwin action, but limited to the
framemaker windows.  Any idea's what is wrong?

Here is what I believe to be the appropriate entry from kbmap.sun.

	(cut)   <   /L10 : \x321 >      Copy & Cut

Thanks.

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Donald McLachlan			e-mail	don@mars.dgrc.doc.ca
Communications Research Centre / DRL	office	613-998-2845
3701 Carling Ave.,			lab	613-998-2423
Ottawa, Ontario				fax	613-990-7987
K2H 8S2



From: campbelr@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Bob Campbell)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:31:57 GMT
Subject: Complex page ranges
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame

OK, we keep getting better at Frame, but that just makes the questions
a little bit more interesting . . .

For those of you with books that use complex page numbers, how do you
handle page ranges.  I am particularly concerned about ranges in the index.
Items such as 3-4-3-8 are unacceptable, and 3-4 - 3-8 is not much better.
Frame itself uses "3-4 to 3-8" which is what I am currently using.

Has anyone found a better way?  (3: 4-8)

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campbelr@cup.hp.com         talking, when I hear the silly things you say.
Hewlett Packard                                    - Elvis Costello
From: campbelr@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Bob Campbell)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:24:52 GMT
Subject: Re: Autonumbering page numbers for chapter TOC
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame

> This is one of the dumber things about Frame, having to create book
> files for each chapter and *manually* typing in the prefix in the
> setup box.  After all, computers are supposed to automate things like
> this, right?

I agree.  Book files are the only area of FrameMaker that I have been
annoyed by the functionality (or lack thereof).  Bugs are a different
kind of annoyance.

Maybe this is a good time to start compiling a book makers wish list.

1.  A stronger concept of Book.

	I would like the ability to have the character and paragraph
	formats controled at the book level.  Importing formats does
	not always work and with 12 chapters is a bit of a chore.

2.  Better support for complex page numbers.  (Chapter Variable)

	There should be a simple option for complex page numbers in
	a book.  This can really be considered part of #1, but I feel
	that a book file should have some real value.  Can't stress it
	enough.

	It is clear that certain chapters may need to be split across
	multiple files.  It would still be nice to have a way for Frame
	to allow operations at the Book/Chapter/File/Paragraph/Selection
	levels.

	For that matter, my footer has the book title aligned on the 
	inside edge with the chapter name and complex page number on
	the outside edge.  Is there a better way to do this than embed
	them into a two cell table?

3.  Support for Draft Copies.

	Yes, I now have the magic words for background, conditional
	postscript text on the master page.  Ugly, but it works.  This
	is another area that could use better documentation, support at the
	"Book" level, etc.

I'm sure I'll think of more before I'm finished.  Any others out there?
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campbelr@cup.hp.com         talking, when I hear the silly things you say.
Hewlett Packard                                    - Elvis Costello
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: khor@bnr.ca (Kyle Hor)
Subject: Re: Problem with typing in popups in 3.1X
Reply-To: khor@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:55:56 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.042029.25924@trl.oz.au>, r.safaei@trl.oz.au (Ramin Safaei) writes:
|> In article 726443643@msi.umn.edu, haberman@s6.msi.umn.edu (Joe Habermann) writes:
|> >The manual, the OpenIssues doc, or release notes may have said 
|> >something about this but... I'm having trouble when trying to type 
|> >into popups such as the "Paragraph Format" window.  It ignores all 
|> >of my key presses.  
|> >
|> >I'm using Frame 3.1X on a Sun running SunOS 4.1.2.  It is being
|> >displayed on a 3/60 with an X11R5 server with vtwm 3.0 as my
|> >window manager.
|> 
|> Add the following line to your .Xdefaults:
|> 
|> Maker*focusOnMouse:  True
|> 
I have the following line in my .vtwmrc

        DecorateTransients
        
But then, I'm on the HP.  If the above do not work, I'd heard that the
following works for some people (also in the .vtwmrc file).
 
        NoTitleFocus        
        
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. Kyle Hor                    .    /       / _   .  Email  khor@bnr.ca     .
. Bell-Northern Research Ltd. .   /__\  / / /_\  .  Phone  (613) 763-2488  .
. Ottawa, Ontario, Canada     .  / \  \/ /  \__  .  ESN          393-2488  .
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: yount@fox.ece.cmu.edu (Charles Robert Yount)
Subject: Arrow Bug
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:27:47 GMT


I'm having a weird problem with drawing arrows in 3.1X.  I can draw
simple lines with no problem, but if I try to draw a line with an
arrow, it is *invisible* on the screen.  If I change it to a
simple line, and it reappears, but if I change it back to an arrow
(left, right, or double), it disappears again.  By the way, if I print
one of these invisible lines, it comes out fine on the printer.

Has anyone else seen this?  Any clues?  Needless to say, this is
making it quite difficult to edit pictures with arrows.

Thanks,
Chuck
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: denl@netcom.com (Dennis Allen Lee)
Subject: PostScript Files
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 11:28:44 GMT


Just a general question:

Is there a difference between PostScript files created with FrameMaker
on the MacIntosh and PS files generated with the PC version of FrameMaker?

Currently we generate PostScript files on the Mac for our manuals and then hand
them over to a service bureau for printing. At one point, we mentioned to
one of the custormer reps that our publications group might be switching
over to the MicroSoft Windows version of FrameMaker. He responded by 
saying that it wasn't such a good idea since PostScript files generated
on a PC were not as dependable as those generated on a Mac.

Is there any truth to this?

Thanks in advance,  

Dennis Lee  (denl@netcom.com)
From: clarke@mahakala.wpd.sgi.com (David Clarke)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: IgnoreCharsIX
Date: 7 Jan 93 21:20:19 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mahakala.wpd.sgi.com

I'd like to create a standard list of characters to be ignored
when sorting for an index, but I can foresee occasions where
a writer *won't* want a character ignored.  For instance,
someone might want /etc/hosts to appear under "/" rather than
"e", though in the other 99% of the cases she would want the
"/" ignored for sorting purposes.

I think I've been able to get around this by putting the
ignored character ("/", in this case) in brackets after the entry,
like this /etc/hosts[/].  This seems to have the effect of un-
ignoring the "/" and causing the entry to be sorted under the "/",
rather than the "e".

However, pessimist that I am, I'm concerned that this solution
seems just too easy.  I haven't found anything in the documentation
covering this issue.  Has anyone else used this or any other solution 
to this problem?
-----------------
David Clarke
Publications Production
clarke@wpd.sgi.com
(415)390-5137
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: haluk@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com (Haluk Gumrukcu)
Subject: Special->Variable box active at all times?
Originator: haluk@turlough.dev.cdx.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Codex, Canton, MA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:48:44 GMT


Is there a way to make Special->Variable box active at all times?
It is annoying to activate it every time I need to insert a variable?
From: lkirby@axion.bt.co.uk (Lewis Kirby)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Using CenturyOldStyle
Date: 4 Jan 93 15:12:40 GMT
Reply-To: lkirby@axion.bt.co.uk (Lewis Kirby)
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs



I have recently been trying to change the font in one of my documents
from NewCenturySchlbk to CenturyOldStyle. I did not have too many problems, but
the major problem remaining is that I cannot get bold.  Has anyone else
had this problem?  I have found that trying to get Bold Italic fails in the
document on screen; but Regular angle Bold seems to be successful on screen
and then it fails during printing - it comes out as Courier.

Is this a problem with FrameMaker or have we installed it incorrectly?

Thanks in advance.

Lewis G Kirby   Telephone +44 473 645807
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From: robmack@bsc.no (Robert MacKinnon)
Subject: HELP: Frustration using Tools in FrameMaker 3.1
Organization: Bergen Scientific Centre, Bergen, NORWAY
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 11:58:54 GMT

Environment: FrameMaker v3.1, IBM RISC System/6000, AIX 3.2, Xwindows

I would like to know if there is a X resource that can be set for FrameMaker
to retain use of a selected tool off of the Tools menu.  I am very
frustrated that, when I select a drawing tool (line, circle, box, etc.), the
tool is immediately dropped after use and the Smart Selection tool is
automatically re-selected.  I would like to retain selection of the drawing
tool until I EXPLICITLY request another tool.
--
Robert MacKinnon,    UNIX Support | Internet/Email: robmack@bsc.no
Bergen Environmental Sciences and | 		    robmack at nobscvm
Solution Centre,  Bergen,  NORWAY | Phone:          +47-5-544618
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