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From: jorngh@dhhalden.no (JORN GUNNAR HALONEN)
Subject: Re: A4000 Processor
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 19:15:30 GMT

In article <19.2ad76157@ivgate> John.Haubrich@mtask.omahug.org (John Haubrich) writes:
>Someone stated recently that the A4000
>had a 68EC040 processor (without MMU or FPU).  Is this true?

NO NO NO !!!

As stated before, the A4000 has a full blown 040 ... who are spreading 
rumours anyway ???

*JORN* (email : jorngh@sofus.dhhalden.no)
From: Hamish.Macdonald@x400gate.bnr.ca (Hamish Macdonald)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Avoid the Amiga 4000
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:22:58 GMT
	<35757@cbmvax.commodore.com> <35767@cbmvax.commodore.com>
	<1992Oct12.032423.12844@ra.msstate.edu>
Organization: Bell Northern Research

>>>>> On Mon, 12 Oct 1992 03:24:23 GMT,
>>>>> In message <1992Oct12.032423.12844@ra.msstate.edu>,
>>>>> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) wrote:

Skip> But the whiners like MB will still flame you no matter what you
Skip> do.  If the A4000 had SCSI-II, a DSP with 32 voice 16 bit sound,
Skip> 1280x1024 24 bit graphics, and a fellatio port, MB and his
                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                                       |||||||||||||
                      Can I get this as an add-on for my A3000?

Skip> bitchy friends would still find something to complain about.
From: Boinger@myamy.hacktic.nl (Paul Kolenbrander)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: C/A is not CBM. Re: The Real A4000 Argument.
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:23:35 MET
Reply-To: boinger@myamy.hacktic.nl (Paul Kolenbrander)
Distribution: world
Organization: System Information 2.0 Development
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Oct15.002028.1@cc.helsinki.fi> ronkko@cc.helsinki.fi () writes:
> 
> But are all of those 'branches' on the same line? Is the cost of a certain 
> product the same for e.g. CBM-Sweden and CBM-USA? If not, the consumer

No. here's an example. A4000, 6MB mem/120MB HD. C= Netherlands recommended
sales price is around US$ 4600. Exactly the same systems are sold in Germany
(neighbouring country) for around $2850.(adjusted for VAT diffs) Same goes
for our other neighbour Belgium. It's cheaper there too. And all these A4000
come from the same factory, made by the same people. And in all honesty I
don't think one local C= organisation pays that much more than the other.
It's just a question how high a margin they want. If they decide to go for
a lower margin and sell more machines to reach a target, or just keep the
margin high and reach the same target, but by selling less machines. In the
past this worked in Europe. With the new unification of Europe I think these
strategies might be short sighted as import barriers will be taken away in
1993. Making it simple to hop to germany and buy one there and completely
take it over the border completely legal. Since one of the objectives of the
EEC is that it's subjects should be able to reside, work, and buy in whatever
country they want, I don't think a local C= branch can yell 'grey imports!!'
anymore and start a tirade to an unsuspecting consumer. :-)
 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>   Reijo Ronkko     University of Helsinki, Dept. of General Microbiology,
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

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From: copes@cs.curtin.edu.au (Simon Cope)
Subject: Re: Adding 2nd internal floppy to A3000
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 05:21:50 GMT

lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun) writes:

>I am at it again! I tried to move the external 3.5" floppy from
>its own case to the spare 3.5" bay at the front of the A3000. I
>connected it up to the ribbon cable and the power cable. But it
>did not work...df0: showed up in `info' but did not respond. 
>Df1: did not show up at all. Have I done something very silly?

There is a jumper on the motherboard that has to be changed.

>I enquired about a drive that physically resembled the A3000
>floppy, but it costs over #110 pounds! And that's not even the
>HD version! Does it have to be the special CBM drive that goes
>inside the machine?

If you want an eject button, yes.

>--
>Lionel Tun   (lionel@cs.city.ac.uk)
>Vision Group, City University, London, EC1V 0HB. 071-477 8000 x 3889
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: dyyfong@acs.ucalgary.ca (Daniel Yee Yan Fong)
Subject: How to get 1 meg chip (A500)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 23:04:15 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

I've been trying to find the FAQ for this group, but no luck so
far.

I have the Super Agnus chip in my 1 meg A500, and since I'm
getting a hard drive and more ram soon, I was wondering if
anybody out there in netland knows where I can find the
instructions on what to change to get 1 meg of chip ram.  Replies
to dyyfong@acs.ucalgary.ca please (I don't follow this group
regularly).

Thanks in advance.

Daniel

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From: boberg@lysator.liu.se (Stefan Boberg)
Subject: Re: a4000 an possible deinterlacer.
Organization: Lysator Academic Computer Society, Linkoping University, Sweden
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:40:06 GMT

barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:

>   With the A4000, you have available all of the non-interlaced modes of the
>ECS with the addition of the DblNTSC and DblPAL modes.  In short, the A4000
>is not capable of generating any resolutions higher than 720x480 60Hz or
>720x560 50Hz. 

  Blah, blah, blah.. What about 1440*580 ? I think that's more than 720*560.
You probably meant to add "non-interlaced" somewhere in that sentence but
you didn't...

> The actual highest resolutions are probably significantly less,
>because the DblPAL and DblNTSC modes cannot be overscanned all that much.

  "Significantly less"? I run DblPAL in 676*564 with no problems. That's
48 pixels less / scanline compared to standard PAL interlaced. I have no
problem accepting that.

>| Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Photo-CD on Amiga/CDTV
From: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Date: 10 Oct 92 14:44:23 -0600
Reply-To: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

In article <1992Oct7.052236.4090@news.iastate.edu>, barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
>In article <1992Oct5.210257.27182@ncar.ucar.edu> rsc@hao.ucar.edu (Bob Campbell) writes:
>>IMO, however, I think Kodak should give C= a hand.  Sell 'em together as a 
>>package.  (Get Kodak to advertise ;-) )
>
>   Why should Kodak waste their time with Commodore?  Phillips is giving more
>than adequate support for PhotoCD, and has vastly better hardware for 

Looks like kodak is doing it just to piss you off marc.


Jim
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From: hans@castlerock.East.Sun.COM (Hans Hrasna)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Poster of AmigaDOS 3.0 Specs
Date: 16 Oct 1992 15:48:06 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: hans@castlerock.East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: castlerock.east.sun.com

In article ldrdbaINNaef@news.bbn.com, leekil@bbn.com (Lee Kilpatrick) writes:
>
>So what happened after that guy posted the AmigaDOS 3.0 specs here a
>few months ago?  Did Commodore track him down and the guy he got the
>specs from (if he wasn't a developer himself)?  What did they do to
>him?

	Ever see "Marathon Man" (Dustin Hoffman, Lawrence Olivier)?

"Is it safe?..."  holds up dentists drill (whirrrrrr....)

"No, it is not, it's very dangerous... " 

"Is it safe?..." drills into a cavity ridden tooth, sans anestetic (SP?)

screaming: "YES YES... it's safe!... ahhhhhhh"
From: johnl@SDFSERV.hac.com (John Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A4000 Hardware questions
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:50:54 GMT
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Company, El Segundo, CA

In article <1992Oct12.171657.14149@ecsvax.uncecs.edu> urjlew@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Rostyk Lewyckyj) writes:
[...]
>Whose theory and definitions are these? What is the current cost and
>availability of the 8520 chips? $.50-$1.00 from multiple sources?
>THe chips protecting the cia should be cheap and socketed. 
>CHeap in practice not just in theory.
[...]

Since the 8520 is a Commodore-specific part, I believe the 8520 is single-
sourced, from Commodore's own Semiconductor Group.  I doubt they are in
the sub $1 range, although the large quantities used by Commodore would
bring the price down.

The problem with buffering CIA lines off-chip, especially those associated
with the parallel port, is that some CIA lines are bidirectional.  The
buffer chips must be able to switch directions when the CIA does or have a
bi-directional buffer.  I can't imagine the latter being sufficiently
inexpensive, and the former requires signals not available outside a CIA
or extra hardware.

The serial port is easier, since the signals there are uni-directional,
according to the RS232 standard, and common inexpensive RS232 buffers/drivers
can be used to protect the CIA and Paula there.  They aren't bullet-proof,
though.

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The above opinions are those of the user and not of those of this machine.
From: eha@phoenix (Esa Haapaniemi)
Subject: Zorro III on Zorro II ?
Organization: University of Oulu, Finland
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 10:07:33 GMT

One of my hardware friends told that on accelerated Amigas (GVP_Combo)
it might be possible to get Zorro III cards used fully on Zorro II.
Only small modifications to connectors and a cable to Combo. If that
really is posible, have someone already done it, or should I give
him an advice to forget it ?

Also what are the Zorro III cards now (I know Vivid, but what about
others ?)

Esa Haapaniemi
University of Oulu
Finlan
From: wwarner@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Art Warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Mac drive Hack
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:34:27 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <16248@mindlink.bc.ca> Barry_Fence@mindlink.bc.ca (Barry Fence) writes:
>Has anyone sucessfully completed the MAC drive hack that has been floating
>around the nets? Could they please e-mail me with their results..
Me too.  Specifically on a 3000.  Is a mountlist entry necessary?

Thanks.
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From: szuerche@jarthur.claremont.edu (Stephan Zuercher)
Subject: My keyboard's fallen and it can't get up
Keywords:  keys, broken
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 04:38:33 GMT


Okay here's the story.  A couple of days ago my keyboard took a 3 foot dive
onto the floor.  Most computer keyboards have keys that can be easily popped
off.  The ones on my Amiga3000 are very difficult to take off, and hence, when
the keyboard hit the floor, instead just popping off, the keys broke off at
the base of the small posts that are used to attach them.  I've super-glued
most of them back together and reassembled the keyboard (it wasn't fun).  
However, one key is in never-never land with all the pens I've ever lost and
two others have already broken off again.

1)  Does anyone know if Commodore service centers will sell just the keys of
a keyboard? And for how much?

2)  Anybody know where I could get a used keyboard (that maybe doesn't work,
but has all the keys) ?

3)  If not, how much does a new commodore keyboard cost?

I tried calling a near-by commodore dealer, but their line was busy every 
time I tried...

Any help would be appreciated.

--
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                                      /     after 2 AM than the Army does all
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From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Monitors for A4000 - suggestions?
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:53:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

kent@hal.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) writes:
[in my previous article, I wrote...]

>>
>>Mitsubishi actually makes smaller ones.  They (at least) used to make
>>a 13(14?)" and a 16" version.  I am using a 13" on my Amiga 2000 (w/o 
                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>I have a Mitsubishi Diamond Scan 16 hooked to my A3000 here. It only sync's
>down to 30 kHz. I am trying to find a 16" monitor which can display up to
>1024x800 for my GDA-1 card and still sync down to 15.7 kHz for the Amiga 4000
>(placing an order for one now). I called Mitsubishi's 800 number for info and
>they stated that they do not have a 16" that can sync down to 15.7 kHz and
>had never made one either. So, are you sure your 16" can do this? If so, what
>is the model number?

I don't have the 16" Diamondscan, so I cant answer that question.  My 
13/14" indeed does PAL, overscan, 15khz, 31.khz, etc.

>I also have a request for info from Sony, but they haven't called me back in
>a while...

>Anyone else know if a 16" Multisync (1024x800) that sync's down to 15kHz?

>Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute
>Internet : kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu

Sorry for not being able to help you.

Yours Sincerely,
Kelvin
e-mail: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu
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From: dvoelker@leland.Stanford.EDU (David Voelker)
Subject: How change Supra battery?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 04:34:23 GMT

     I'm having trouble replacing the battery on my half-meg internal
(trapdoor) expansion card/ clock made by Supra.  The damn thing won't
come out.  The battery appears to be spot-welded in place.  A 30-watt
soldering iron wouldn't budge it.  Plus the underside contact is so
close to the board that it isn't even possible to get an iron close 
to it.
     Does anyone know of a trick to changing this beastie?

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:04:22 EDT
From: <JBK4@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: 020 board & SupraRAM2000

Here at PSU, we have a couple 2000HDs, a 2500, & some 500s.  I tried installing
a SupraRAM2000/6Meg board from a 2000HD into a 2500 but the 2500 wouldn't work.
I found nothing in the SupraRAM manual that was helpful and I couldn't find
the 2500 manual.  Is there some sort of jumper that needs to be changed on the
2500's '020 board?  If the board is removed, everything works fine.

Jason Koszarsky
From: copes@cs.curtin.edu.au (Simon Cope)
Subject: Re: I am getting Hard Disk Errors, May Day, May Day ...
Keywords: HD errors
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 08:37:57 GMT

mac1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Mubashir Cheema) writes:


> Hello World,
>	 	I have an A590 HD controller and a Quantam 52 LPS HD.
> It has been working fine for about a week since I installed it. Earlier
> this morning I started getting this horrible message " Error on dh0:
> sector 6787" and "dh0: is not validated, cant write XXXX "

> What do I do now ? Have no idea. This has never happened to me before.
> Any ideas/suggestions/advice will be greatly appreciated.
> Thanx.

Get a virus checker.

>Mubashir.

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From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Agnus - 8372A vs 8375 ?
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:35:06 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Oct8.214238.20952@trl.oz.au> aduncan@rhea.trl.OZ.AU (Allan Duncan) writes:
> Could someone knowlegable post the difference between these chips?
> They are presumably plug compatible, but there must be some difference -
> process, for instance.

The 8375 has some of the bonding pads on the side of the die
slid around to make the 2M-byte bond-out used on the A500+/A600
less extreme.

Outside of this, they are the same chip...

-- 
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From: jhc819@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (chung jason ho yong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: ROM SWITCHERS:  Multistart II & Switch-It
Keywords: switchers, rom, etc...
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:03:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw6qpI.FHz
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I'm purchasing KS 2.04 (finally) and am wondering what the differences are
between the two rom switchers.  Should I go by price or is one inherently 
better than the other one.

Thanks, Jason
jhc819@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: JBK4@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: 020 Accelerators for 2000s
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:24:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92283.112458JBK4
Organization: Penn State University

What are the current prices for 020 accelerators with a math coprocessor and
2-4 megs?  Our lab needs to speed up our 2000s but we have a VERY limited
budget to work with.  Other accelerator options welcome.

Jason K.
From: Roger_Nordin@atb.bbs.bad.se (Roger Nordin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Avoid the Amiga 4000
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:16:09 GMT
Reply-To: Roger_Nordin@atb.bbs.bad.se (Roger Nordin)
Organization: ANet Test Bench, Karlstad, Sweden
OD-Comment-To: Internet_Gateway

> The system software works at it
> harder than you describe,

So I've heard. And, that is good. There's even a freely distributable hack to 
improve this. However, it's still less resolution than the A3000.

> Yes, some subset of users may feel some pain due to this mutual exclusivity.
> How many?

Some. We were comparing the machines. This is a difference. If you think it's 
a vital feature for you, or no, is completely up to you to decide.

> Marc's error is
> in asserting that some particular user profile, his or yours applies to
> the 90'th percentile of the target market.

That may be so. I can, of course, only speak for myself.

> This especially comes across in the flaming about the IDE drive.  Nobody
> seems to want to really talk about how well it works or doesn't,

It doesn't perform at all with CD-ROMs, Tape Streamers, Flopticals etc. 
Regarding a second IDE/AT harddisk, it will have the problem all IDE/AT 
interfaces, including those for PCs, have, which is the lack of standard on 
the master/slave interface and protocol used to drive to 2nd harddisk. You 
more or less have to buy the same harddisk family as the one already present 
as the master harddisk.

> All the A4000 does is say that folks with special needs have to pay
> some increment over the base model to address those needs.

This means that you decided that A3000 folks have more needs in this area, as 
compared to A4000 folks, since the A3000 (like any other workstation, I'd say) 
was equiped with a SCSI host adaptor, and the A4000 was not. IDE/AT suits 
lower-end computers, such as the A600 or the upcoming rumoured A1200, not high-
end workstations like the A4000, especially since it's aimed as a multimedia 
computer.

                        _       .    __
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Avoid the Amiga 4000
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992
Date: 07 Oct 92  10:07:00

--- Maximus 2.00
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: burkert1@platon.fmi.uni-passau.de (Klaus Burkert)
Subject: Re: DOMINO-graphic-card?
Organization: University of Passau, Germany
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 11:01:55 GMT

In article <harry.02sy@elfuerte.fipnet.fi> harry@elfuerte.fipnet.fi (Harri P Pesonen) writes:
>In article ??? mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst) writes:
>> 
>> As I've learned it is also possible to redirect any screen to the board
>> based on a list of screen names. For Screens with an unknown name you
>> get a requester that asks you wether it should be redirected.
>
>And if several screens are redirected at the same time is it possible to
>pull these screens down?  Or flip between them with left-amiga-m?

Screen-Dragging is not supported but you can switch/flip the screens with
Amiga-M and/or the depth-gadgets.

Ciao, Klaus.

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From: pwappy@well.sf.ca.us (Jeff Walkup)
Subject: Re: A4000 anim speed
Keywords: fps animation
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 20:01:38 GMT


Michael Sinz said:

> The A4000 can do animations *very* quickly.  In fact,
> the new function calls in Release 3 can do animation
> at well over 2000 frames per second *not counting*
> the time it takes to render the frame.

OK, but *counting* the time it takes to render the frame,
how fast can it go?  I mean, it surely can't do the
1.48 Gigabytes/sec required to update every pixel on a
Superhires-Interlaced-Overscan 8-bit screen at 2000fps??

I'd like to see some real-world numbers please.  Something
like a 768x482x8 anim with very high Deltas.  "Very high"
means something close to the 370K maximum (izzat right?)
Nearly every pixel changing on every frame, anyway...


> Also note that *movies* are only 24fps...)

Yes, but most projectors have a secondary "shutter" that
effectively doubles that to 48fps, some even quadruple it
to 96fps.  You still get the same number of *unique*
frames/sec, but the result is much less flicker.
Just so you know! ;^)

--
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E3 Pixelworks - "... and not a hairy pixel in the whole lot!"
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