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From: jcopelan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James c Copeland)
Subject: Re: fat free??
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 20:35:04 GMT

In article <Bs7FEy.F42@news.udel.edu> derf@ravel.udel.edu (the Greatful Fred) writes:
>	I always used to wonder about milk.  I mean, they have whole milk,
>	 and then the next level of fat freeing produces 2%?
>	 and the next are 1% and skim?  I used to wonder about
>	 their choices, I mean if they could be exact enough about
>	 it to produce a 1% difference, why did they not have any 
>	 graditions between whole and 2%.  Then I learned in Biochemistry
>	 that milk is naturally 3% milk-fat.  I suppose next I will
>	 be told that the Easter Bunny doesn't exist?
>
>fred>
>

Well, I hate to be the one who breaks it to you, but the Easter Bunny doesn't
really exist. You will get over the shock, don't worry.


Jim "the slayer of dreams" Copeland


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From: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (JOSEPH T CHEW)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: cumbers in commercials
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:10:33 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
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>> the number of valves.  Since there are two valves per cylinder, this 
>> gives you no new information, but it is a larger number, so sounds better

>Yes, especially on older engines, two valves per cylinder is the norm, but
>on high-performance, high-rev engines that number is often increased 

Of particular relevance is the European (and Japanese) connotations of
many-valve, overhead-cam engines.  Sounds much sportier than the 
traditional American approach (single underarm cam, hydraulic lifters),
doesn't it?  Just watch out for that 5-liter Mustang in the next lane
when the light turns green...

Interestingly, although the first poster noted a trend away from number
of cylinders in car _advertising_, the cars themselves have in many
cases been showing up with more cylinders and larger displacements 
than ever before.  Mercedes, for instance, just brought out a 6-liter
V-12, hoping to propel the biggest of their landlocked cruise ships
faster than its 5-liter V-12 counterpart from BMW.  One also sees V8s
in cars that once might have been powered by sixes, and sixes in the
place of fours.  

You can credit (or blame, depending in your perspective) cheap oil.  
It wouldn't surprise me to find that, after adjusting for inflation, 
gas is cheaper now than in the heyday of the 426 Hemi.  Enjoy it while
you can; not only is the petroleum supply limited, but OPEC is far too
promising an idea to stay dead forever.

Joe "Speeding through a fool's paradise" Chew
From: wlamonac@purcell.helios.nd.edu (william lamonaca)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Red Heads
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:05:55 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame

In article <712191792.13425@zooid.guild.org> brian@zooid.guild.org (Brian Misiaszek) writes:
>
>  I was wondering if anybody knows of trivia, facts and fancies surrounding
>persons with red hair.
> 
>  I know that in medieval Holland to see someone with red hair was a sign of
>bad luck.  Levi in his "Satanic Bible" says that red-heads make the best
>witches.  Common perception has it that people with red-hair are
>tempermental and passionate.  But what other stories and mythology surrounds
>people with red hair?
>
>::Brian::

Traditionally, Judas is portrayed as a redhead (see paintings of the Last
Supper and also Harvey Keitel in "The Last Temptation of Christ").
From: rgm@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Rob Menke)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: generic drugs
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:01:38
Organization: TEAM CS -- Making Tomorrow's Mistakes Today!
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In-reply-to: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us's message of 29 Jul 92 07:00:40 GMT

In article <3336102@harvee.billerica.ma.us> scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
(S. Mudgett aka little gator) writes:

   after surgery i was given an rx for tylenol and codeine.  i took it
   once, found that it didn't work as well as a small dose of
   ibuprofen(advil, nuprin, etc), and took advil instead.  when i told
   my doctor this he was appalled, though he didn't say why. i suspect
   he just wanted me do do it his way instead of mine.

If I remember correctly from my doctor's instructions after my face
got slashed up, I was supposed to avoid both asprin and ibuprofen, as
they interfered with the clotting process, therefore lengthening the
time it would take to heal.  Or maybe it was blood pressure.  I was
pretty dazed at the time.  In either case, tylenol did not have this
side effect, therefore it was OK.

Maybe the use of ibuprofen after surgery causes the long-term
inability to use the shift key...

You are paying the doctor to give you advice, so you're wasting money
if you don't follow it (as someone earlier pointed out wisely).  True,
some doctors ho-and-hum around direct questions, but it's funny how
some people revert to the three-year-old's "Why? Why? Why?" when asked
to do something that goes against their nature (at least I do).
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From: dbushong@wang.com (Dave Bushong)
Subject: Re: Calling Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Howard
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 20:40:01 GMT

matt@cray.com (Matthew Marchese) writes:

>While scanning through my copy of "Warts and All" by the Friedman Brothers
>I came across a piece titled, "Stooge's Wives". In it one of Curly's wives
>is portrayed in an interview as claiming that Curly's trademark cry of,
>"WooWoo" originated during the sex-act as the aforementioned Stooge
>acheived orgasm. Now, i'm not one to take the work of the Friedmans as
>gospel but this had just enough of the ring of truth to make me wonder.

>Would any Stooge-o-philes care to dig into their treasure trove 'o trivia and
>comment on this?


Will do.  I've never heard this before, either in person or anecdotally.

Dave
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From: pv@gagme.chi.il.us (Paul vader)
Subject: Re: Ginsu Knives
Summary: My pet Ginsu theory
Originator: pv@gagme
Keywords: Finger, Ginsu, *SLASH*
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 01:03:51 GMT

Our mother (gaea@zooid.guild.org) writes:

> So tell me, what *IS* wrong with the Ginsu knives? I've never bought one
> but I've always wanted to know.

Can I have your autograph? Or could you just cut out the rain in the Chicago
area for a few days? I've got a new set of rollerblade wheels to break in.

Anyway, absolutely nothing is wrong with the knives. I have the scar and
nerve damage from cutting halfway through my left index fingertip with one
to prove it (oddly, this is never demonstrated in the commercials as a
selling point). The buggers are almost TOO sharp. 

The problem is the "lifetime" guarantee. Supposedly, you can return a knife
broken, dulled, or whatever for 20 years (at least in the Ginsu II
iteration), and get new one. I'm convinced that the company that markets
them simply goes out of business every three years, when the MTBF on a
plastic handled knife starts scaring their actuaries. Add a roman numeral,
reincorporate, and you're all set. Ginsu who? PV 
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From: jarnot@kin.lap.upenn.edu (Kevin J. Jarnot)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: 2/3's of the Three Stooges
Keywords: Manny Moe Jack Curley Larry among others
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:19:14 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania, Language Analysis Center

In article <brtlga.mzf@wang.com> dbushong@wang.com (Dave Bushong) writes:
>jarnot@kin.lap.upenn.edu (Kevin J. Jarnot) writes:
>>And for all of you lucky enough to live in Philadelphia (lucky? :-), you
>>can visit Mr. Feinberg's birthplace right over on South Street.  It is
>>now "John's Bar and Grill" (very good food, btw), and has a wall with
>>several pictures/plaques/etc of the 3 Stooges...
>Don't know about the food, but the pictures sound like it'd be worth the 
>trip!  Is there anything new (you know, 'unpublished') there?


Not that I recall.  Just some 8x10's and some info on Larry's life.  
Interesting, though.


Kevin




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From: tsmaster@media.mit.edu (David LeCompte)
Subject: Re: out of 5 doctors
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:21:38 GMT

When Trident says that 4 out of 5 doctors surveyed....
Do we know that Trident surveyed more than 5 doctors?

If so, are they perhaps tossing out many of the doctor's reccomendations?
(i.e. Doctors #4, #38, #95, and #7542 all reccomend trident. What do
we do now? say 4 doctors reccomend trident? No, that sounds silly. How
about this: Include Dr # 634. she reccomended enlisting in the navy
for her patients that chew gum. So, now we have a set of doctors, and
four out of five doctors (from this set) reccomend trident.

Literally true, yet quite misleading.

		-Dave "()" LeCompte
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From: kasprj@isaac.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak)
Subject: Re: College Pranks (Was Re: Vacation Time!)
Keywords: Ditch Day, vanishing room
Reply-To: kasprj@rpi.edu
Organization: The Big Wedge 
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 05:26:39 GMT

In article <-cxx5+a@rpi.edu>, nasadk@vccsouth24.its.rpi.edu (Kristopher Martin Nasadowski) writes:
|> 
|> One of our buildings had a few 9 floor high stairtwells with nice openings
|> down them. During the year, the capus security department had to place extra
|> security in the building because students were prone to throwing things down
|> the stairwell, ala Letterman. I knew a few of the perpetrators, who hinted at
|> what they might have done. Common items included fluorescent tubes, and any
|> other junk item that could be found.
 
 Ah yes, the CII Gravity tests. 
 
 A few things which I know were tossed down the main CII stairwell:
 
 - a frozen tomato
 - a carved and decorated Halloween pumpkin
 - a 5' metal lamp stand (the CLANG when it hit bottom was quite impressive)
 - a Courier keyboard (I thought the tube would have been even better)
 - a set of Visor-Gogs with a rock taped to them (they didn't break)
 - several bottles of Gennesee (best use for that beer I've seen so far)
 
 Some things I'd always wished someone _would_ toss down the stairwell:
 
 - ALL the Courier terminals
 - the entire output of DAKA for one day
 - Kibo
 
ObRPIUL: The bottom level of the north wing of the CII undercuts Church VI
and the Sage Dining Hall. Engineers calculated that the rock between the 
buildings above and the basement below would hold the buildings without any
trouble, but they neglected to take into account the weight of the people in
the buildings. Room occupation limits in Church VI are STRICTLY enforced, 
because if every room were to have one more person in it than normal occupancy,
the whole building would go plunging down into the CII's basement.
 
ObConfusion: how did this get crossposted to talk.politics.misc? I've removed
it from the Newsgroups line.
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From: datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri)
Subject: Re: Mis-applied physics in advertising
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 04:48:42 GMT
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              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

>they have "more milligrams".  Note that there is no clause after the milligrams
>saying "of xxxx", just more milligrams, like that's an advantage in and of
>itself.

I haven't seen those, but I *have* seen plenty that boast that they
contain a "full 1000 milligrams" of acetaminophen or whatever, "twice the
medicine our competitor".  Duh.  I'll just take two of the competitor's,
which probably cost a quarter of the price.  I buy pseudoephidrine products
from time to time for my allergies, and I'm always amused by reading the
product labels and comparing the amount of the actual drug in each tablet
with the product cost.  I've found a price differential of as much as a
factor of 10 for the same dosage between overpackaged brands with a few
tablets per package and a lesser-known brand with lots of tablets in less
packaging.

>Or all meat products commercials that say "is 93% fat free" which merely means
>that the rest is totally fat

That one struck me long ago, but most of the numbers actually still don't
work out that bad -- 7% fat isn't all that bad compared to some things,
like 'hot dogs' (shudder) or good, hot Italian sausage (sigh).

>Also, what about so-called sugar-free foods that are laced with sugar sources
>such as grape juice, honey, sorbitol, mannitol, fructose, etc.  True, they
>are free of processed sucrose, but...

To be fair, these often say 'no *added* sugar', but it's still marketing.

>Or, the "health-fad" problem where high-sugar foods are misleadingly marked
>as "cholestorol free" or "fat free" when the product inherently is not a
>fat source, but is problematic as a carbo source because it's high in some
>form of sugar.

Better yet -- these are usually purely vegetable products, which *couldn't*
have cholesterol unless they were made with lard or such.  I guess there's
some legislation to control this kind of misleading advertising, and it's
interesting that a local health-food-supermarket chain (Whole Foods) has
its panties in a wad over it.  They're doing radio ads and inserts in the
local free trendy newspaper decrying this as oppressive, since they wouldn't
be able to label dandelion hips as increasing penis size, or whatever.


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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Boating on the left side (was Re: Driving on the right side)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 09:04:26 GMT

dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (dogbowl) writes:
: 
: little planes tend to slowly go out of line. it just takes finger 
: pressure to keep it flying straight and level. 
: It's quite amusing to read a map, hear the wind noise increase, look up 
: and find yourself in a full blown spiral dive. Easily gotten out of 
: though...

I was taught a slightly different approach, taking advantage of the
slight instability of the airplane. When I want to read a map, without
going anywhere, I just trim for a very slow climb, then put the plane
in a gentle turn. If done right, the plane will settle down into a
slow climbing turn - giving plenty of time for map reading - without
having to continuously check to make sure the ground is not approaching
much more rapidly than desired.

Check which direction the plane likes to turn - the one I flew the most
was rigged so it turned to the left. 50 feet per minute or so of climb
should be plenty.

Bill
From: larry@abby.chem.ucla.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Jimmy the Greek
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:15:42 GMT
Reply-To: larry@abby.chem.ucla.edu
Organization: Department of Chemistry, UCLA

>In article <ghartzog.0xme@terapin.com> ghartzog@terapin.com (Garrett Hartzog) 
>writes:
>
>>he said something to the effect that blacks were physically bigger than their
>>white counterparts (in terms of football players) because the slave masters
>>bred the bigger slave together or some sh*t like that.
>
> [text deleted]
>
>From a practical standpoint, Jimmy was unwise to even bring up such a 
>volatile subject in the context of a sports program; in fact, I heard
>a rumor that he was drunk at the time.  But the public's indignant 
>reaction was misplaced, and the network (CBS?) displayed appalling
>spinelessness by canning him.
>
>
>Geoff
>
  I'm not sure of the exact timing, but I believe the Greek made
these comments about blacks shortly after the Nightline episode where
Al Campanis made his comments about blacks not having the desire to 
hold managerial positions in baseball.  The public was already 
sensitized to racism in sports when J.T.G. made his comments.  

  As for why CBS canned him, it might also relate to the Al Campanis
case.  I watched the Nightline episode where Campanis made his
comments.  He had no malice or intentional prejudice toward blacks,
he just truly believed that they didn't want to be anything other
than players in baseball.  Ted Koppel gave Campanis several 
opportunities to retract his statements, but Campanis just didn't
understand what was wrong with them.  After one incident like this,
CBS was understandably nervous about keeping someone around
who demonstrated a similar lack of understanding, as J.T.G. so 
cleverly did with his comment.

 -Lec Luthor
  Criminal Genius Extraordinaire

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From: pjohnso@triton.unm.edu (Paddy Johnson CIRT)
Subject: Re: SHOCKING STORIES
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 21:05:25 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico

In article <1992Jul30.150218.22784@nntp.nta.no> styri@nta.no writes:
>Well, I've
>seen shoplifters visiting a glass factory. When cooling, glass
>will look normal from 600 Celsius and down. Some shoplifters
>manage to slip a glass into their handbag without noticing, and
>voila - seconds after they have a burning/melting handbag. Great
>fun...

This sounds vaguely wrong.  Most glass needs to be annealed and
cooled slowly to avoid "popping" or exploding with a variable amount
of force depending on how high the coefficient of expansion of
the glass is.  Some glass is still soft at 600C and many of the
colors are off until the piece gets below 300C.  By off I mean
a very different color than they will be at room temperature.  On
top of that, glass at 600C is radiating a far amount of heat, enough
to be very evident as you stand near it.  It also burns, badly, when
you pick it up.  I know from personal experience.  I can believe that
it would melt through a purse if you could deposit it, I just find it
unlikely that someone would find glass out just hot from the kiln, and
that if they did, they would be able to pick it up without screaming.
I are a glass professional so I know.

Zoe Paddy Johnson 
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Subject: Re: Jimmy the Greek/weather-rape rap?
From: thayes@desire.wright.edu
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:53:53 EST
Organization: Wright State University 

In article <55412@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, 
neath@brazil.psych.purdue.edu (Ian Neath) writes:
>> There was a local weatherman who was a quick-drawing artist called Tex
>> Antoine for many years.  He is alleged to have said something like "if
>> rape is inevitable, relax and enjoy it" as some parable relating to some
>> impending bad weather.

[edited]

> The original quote about rape came from the Republican candidate for
> Governor of Texas, whom Ann Richards beat.  I believe the quote was
> about increased taxes:  they are just like rape...
        ***************
        I think it was about weather too -- Texas rain storms.

The Tex Antoine story is the original.  The ill-fated 
gubenatorial candidate from Texas, Clayton Williams, muttered the rape
comment many years after Tex Antoine did his verbal wilding thing.

The *real* issue is not the Tex/Texas angle.  No, instead, ask yourself
this: why were both comments relating rape to weather?  Hmmm...

-----ted hayes
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From: gyee@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Gil Yee)
Subject: Re: Agnostics and Athiests
Keywords: Sex, Drugs, Bondage, Beastiality
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 07:28:31 GMT

In article <aflmrdb.xtifr@netcom.com> xtifr@netcom.com (Chris Waters) writes:
>In <1992Jul27.043455.8189@athena.cs.uga.edu> mcovingt@athena.cs.uga.edu (Michael A. Covington) writes:
>
>>>-> [various irrelevant attributions elided]
>>>->I would call myself an athiest.  I have no belief in god and have
>>>-
>>>-Agnosticism is the Schrodinger's Cat of theism.  Believers/Atheists...
>>>
>>>    I was sitting here 'a wonderin' what all this agnostic .vs. athiest
>
>>The misspellers are winning 2 to 1.
>
>Er, you misspelled "whining".  :-)  :-)  :-)
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From: nolan@twg.com (Hey! Moe! Hey! Moe! Nyuck nyuck nyuck!)
Subject: Re: 2/3's of the Three Stooges
Keywords: Manny Moe Jack Curley Larry among others
Reply-To: nolan@twg.com
Organization: Somewhere West of Nowhere
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:05:58 GMT


Speakin of the Stooges, Square One TV, a CTW program about mathematics, did a
tribute a la MTV to the Stooges, a video song titled "Calling Doctor Howard,
Doctor Fine, Doctor Howard" that was pretty funny, and extremely well done.
It was a cross between Stooges and the Marx Brothers, completely zany, and
lovingly done.
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