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                          THE HANDICAP DIGEST

                               Issue # 2568

                           Friday, April 10, 1992

Today's Topics:


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                                     ADA
                          Handicapped Equip 4 Sale
                              Head high tackles
                                 Car rental
                                   Quotas
               More Euthanasia Propaganda Cluttering the Net!
         Employability skills software for voice-activated computers
                   Re: Fingerspelling font for Print Shop
                          Besides Ill Also Healthy


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Subject: ADA
From: Joe.Chamberlain@p1.f175.n150.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Chamberlain)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:150/175.1 - Busted Flush BBS, New Castle DE


[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

 To: 34AEJ7D%CMUVM.BITNET@VM1.nodak.edu (Bill Gorman)

 BG> far, far too many  cases expected to "stay out of the way" in
 BG> return for some insignificant "special" status,e.g., parking near
 BG> the door, or whatever?

I think we ought to fight for every access that we can use.  I want
wheelchair bathrooms on jet airliners and I want to be able to fly
as a passenger on a prop plane.  I think that every workplace
should be readily accessible.

I think we as members of the disable community must also be
realistic in our demands.  I don't think we should be patrol
officers on a police force, but I think some of us could perform as
dispatchers and investigators.  I think we should have thr right to
pilot our own private plane, but don't think we should be airline
pilots.  I think we can be successful elementary school teachers,
but I think we need backup when supervising playground activities.

I think that all apartments constructed since the signing of the
ADA should have accessible features built in.  I believe that we
have a long way to go and that firm demanding of our rights to an
equal life is in order.  However, I don't approve of disruptive
demonstrations.

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Subject: Handicapped Equip 4 Sale
From: Miki.Mesiab@p32.f116.n138.z1.fidonet.org (Miki Mesiab)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:138/116.32 - Group Medical BBS, Tacoma WA


[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

  For Sale Handicapped Equiptment

  1. E. & J. Electric Reclining Wheelchair
     w/Falcon Reclining Unit. 24 Volt System.
     2 Speed, Adjustable Arms & Legs.
     5 Years Old. In good shape. Includes Charger.
     Chair Sold New For $7,000.00
     Due to death in family, must sell.
     $1,200 obo.

  2. Invocare-Hydrolic Transfer Lift
     Model #9901. Weight Cap. 350lbs.
     Like New. Retail Price $925
     Must Sell. $450 obo.

  I am located in the High Desert (Victorville) area
  of Sothern Calif. You may either leave me a message
  here or on my BBS-Tumble Weed Gardens BBS at (619)241-8851
  or you may call me voice at (619)241-0999 anytime.

  Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.1
  The Chatter Box,,,Hesperia, Ca...(619)948-6319 (CNET)

   CircuitNET 3.10: Node: 619000 Phone 619-948-6319
  The chatter Box Hesperia, Ca
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   MegaMail 2.10 #0:Chicken: An egg's way of producing more eggs.

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Subject: Head high tackles
From: Joe.Chamberlain@p1.f175.n150.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Chamberlain)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:150/175.1 - Busted Flush BBS, New Castle DE


[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

 MS> Do we have to see someone end up a Paraplegic

In 1958 a boy in a high school across town became a quad.  In 1976
I met another 16 year old quad who had been playing football three
weeks before.  Last year, Mike Utley, of the Detroit Loins, became
a quad while playing professional football.

Nobody sets out to break someone else's neck in a football game.
Coaches teach their players how to tackle, block, and hit safely.
To suggest that a player intentionally harms another is
ridiculous.

Driving a car can result in a broken neck if everyone doesn't
exercise safety.  Diving into shallow water is a good way to become
a quad.  Of course we can always send those guilty of a moments
stupidity to jail.  But then you would end up with a lot of quads
in jail.

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Subject: Car rental
From: Bill.Freeman@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Freeman)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3602/24 - ADAnet One (tm) Net, Pinson AL


[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

->    If you make your needs known they will help.  I rented a car in
-> Philadelphia several years ago and they took my bags to the car,
-> brought the car from the lot, and helped my attendent store the chair
-> in the trunk.  Some advance warning is nice and you can even arrange
-> it ahead of time with the airline and the car rental.  At Philly,
-> arriving from Orlando on Delta, Delta handled our bags to the car
-> rental clerk, who in turn had our reservations and a man from the
-> storage lot waiting for us.

Thanks for the reply, Joe.

When I arrived at Dallas, and again at LAX, I took a wheelchair ride to
baggage off the plane. I have about 100 yards of walking I can do in any
1 hour period without really ruining a set of clothes with sweat. It
really worried me because not having used the chairs before (I did ALOT
of walking on my Europe Tour last year - my last major travel - and I
paid a price for it: not able to get around later; when I wanted too
most!) I didn't know if I should tip the fellow pushing me around, or
how much was appropriate. I gave them $3-$5, according on how far we had
to go, and how long they stayed with me. I also tipped the SkyCabs, that
helped with the baggage. However, I didn't get any help after I left the
airport - I was on my own. I asked the shuttle driver, and he said he
couldn't leave the shuttle. I ended up just doing as best I could, and
it all worked out. If I'd have had a bit more help, I wouldn't have
broke a sweat at all... but life goes on...

The thought of what will happen to me if (and when) I ever become unable
to walk at all is terrifying. It makes me very thankful that I do have
the capacity to walk on demand. It is a real eye-opener to the
inaccessability in the travel business...

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Subject: Quotas
From: Jerry.Pickup@f1.n360.z1.fidonet.org (Jerry Pickup)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:360/1 - Augusta Forum, North Augusta SC


[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

In a message to Chris Northrup <21 Mar 92 19:10> Joe Chamberlain wrote:

 JC>     I am all for the objectives of the ADA, but we must remember
 JC> thant no one owes us a job.  We are the ones who must demonstrate
 JC> that we have the ability and the desire to do the same job as an

Joe, more pwds need to adopt this line of thinking.  All I ask of
anyone is just to give me a chance to prove myself.  I don't mind
using whatever means I need to to get my foot in the door and I
don't see anything wrong with that as long as I STAY there by
working my buns off!

		      -Jerry

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Subject: More Euthanasia Propaganda Cluttering the Net!
From: 34AEJ7D%CMUVM.BITNET@VM1.nodak.edu (Bill Gorman)

Yup.  Sure enough.  It's election  season! What  the press  likes
to  call the "Silly Season"! True to the stereotype, we are treated
to another broadside of hysteria, distortion, unsupported opinion,
clever editing and propaganda from the "Euthanasia" paranoid
fringe.

Once again,  where are the texts  of the bills  these "They're out
to  get me" screechings are all  about? Considering the volume of
smoke  being blown at us by these  ardent propagandists, it  seems
a small thing  to seek at  least ONE fact  amidst all  the
electioneering. Let's  see  the text  of  some of  this so-called
Euthanasia legislation  -  if it  exists -  in  its original,  full
length, uncut, unedited form without any hysterical
"interpretation" or  silly nonsense about "plots", Hitler, the
Hemlock Society, flying suacers or similar diversionary tactics.

Then the disABLED community can make its own decision, thank you
very much.


Sez me,

W. K. (Bill) Gorman




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Subject: Employability skills software for voice-activated computers
From: TRENHOLM@admin.humberc.on.ca (Joy Trenholm)

I am interested in researching the availabliity of software
programs on employability skills for voice-activated computer
systems. If anyone is aware of the existance of such programs,
could you let me know the name, publisher, where they can be
obtained, and any other information that you think might be of help
to me. Thanks!!!!




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Subject: Re: Fingerspelling font for Print Shop
From: halet@ernie.cs.byu.edu (Todd Hale)

About 4 years ago, I spent some time during a Christmas vacation at
the in-laws making an ASL fingerspelling font for Print Shop on the
Apple II.  I'm not sure if I still have the disk, but will check it
out if anyone is indeed interested.  Respond via mail to the
address below.  If there is enough interest, I will post a note
with the font's availability.

I also have a fingerspelling font for the Macintosh that is fun to
use.  Like any other bitmapped mac font, it works in any word
processor.  If anyone is interested, please use mail to respond.  I
will post its location if enough interest is found.

Todd Hale
halet@ernie.cs.byu.edu




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Subject: Besides Ill Also Healthy
From: VLINDERS@rcl.wau.nl (Meindert de Jong)

Dear Members of this List,

Herewith my story so that you may have something to read.
I am suffering from the disabling disease ms.  Sorry but I
cannot spell it since I forgot the full name of this disease.
And it is not necessary to write it in capital letters and
give it dots. I got it too long and too serious for being it a
delicate  case.
I have been (functional) blind, paralyzed, unable to talk and
to eat, and almost unconsciously by tiredness. Have done many
cures. "You need chemotherapy to prevent complete blindness"
was what the Professor said. Due to a chemotherapy in 1985 I
losed my hairs. Subsequently I have taken many 'slow' cures
(with cyclophosphamide and prednison).
In 1990 I went (again) to the University Hospital and asked:
"I don't want to drive a wheelchair, do you happen to know
something?" "Yes we do" answered the Professor. "We have a
medicin that especially works in your legs". After my first
cure with methylprednisolon (two weeks 1 g a day) I could even
walk without using a cane after physiotherapy. This medicin
works almost half a year with me.
Currently I am in a good physical condition: I can even walk
without using a cane, I have an impaired sight, no pain, and
no extreme tiredness anymore.
After working was impossible in 1984, I wrote a PhD Thesis,
while I could read only two hours a day. What else should one
do in that few hours? Watching TV? One of my theorems was:
'Progressive ms can as yet be treated by intensive immunosup-
pression'. "You have proved that indeed" according to my
neurologist.
But I am not here to complain. There happened to be an overw-
helming interest from newspapers, magazines, periodicals for
my research. I have written many papers on my 'risk analysis
for biological control of a forest weed by a fungus'. I am
feeling to be a famous scientist, while hardly nobody knows
that I have a chronic illness.
I am playing chess over E-mail. My rating is 2140, that is
more than I ever have had. I talk over the network with scien-
tists from different disciplines. I am trying to be more inde-
pendent with traveling. A Canadian Professor visited me. When
I'm at home everything is going fine. I am desperately seeking
a little job in science. I'm trying to live although being
ill. And it succeeds.
'Besides ill also healthy' is the title of a Dutch book.
Should it be translated? Would it be useful to begin a small
list for ms patients where we can complain ("Today I had such
a pain in my shoulders") and jubilate ("I travelled by train
to a big city")? I often make some advertising for myself as
being a scientist. Will it work sometime? Perhaps....

Best Regards,
Meindert de Jong
Vlinders@rcl.wau.NL





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