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From: brumelle@unixg.ubc.ca (Shelby Brumelle)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: DVtree or Dshell for DV/X? File Manager?
Date: 11 Dec 92 22:10:45 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca
Keywords: shell, file manager

Is it possible to substitute some other program for the file viewer
in DV/X File Manager?  I would would much prefer Buerg's list program
or Qedit.

Or alternatively is there a program similar to DVtree or Dshell which
works in DV/X.  The Dshell install seems to object to the new Learn
interface.  DVtree almost works, but (among other things) the screen
display is not updated automatically and one must "<alt>RTR" to
refresh the screen.

Am I right in being disappointed in File Manager (compared with Dshell
and DVtree), or have I missed some of its capability?
From: shane@hisfood.Corp.Sun.COM ( Shane Brandon White )
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: Information Please?
Date: 14 Dec 1992 21:12:58 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: shane@hisfood.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: hisfood.corp.sun.com


Hello...

I am getting a new system soon, and would like to know

	1)  What are the advantages of using Deskview over OS/2 or DOS 5.0 and Windows 3.1

	2)  What system requirements will I need?  to work well.


Thanks,

Shane


Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: garyrich@qdeck.com (Gary Rich)
Subject: Re: Cannot install new fonts for ATM
Cc: k7z092@rick.cs.ubc.ca
Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica CA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:59:27 GMT
Keywords: DV/X, ATM, Type 1 fonts

In article <1g9sdcINNamo@gambier.rick.cs.ubc.ca> k7z092@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Johnnie Shiu-Chung Leung) writes:
>
>Hi!  I just got DV/X, and have it installed and running perfectly.
>However, I couldn't seem to be able to add new Type 1 fonts.  After I
>highlighted the font names in ATM and select 'Add', the control panel
>exits immediately without adding the fonts.  What could I be doing
>wrong?  Yes, I RTFM and followed every instruction it gave.
>
>Thanks in advance for any help.

It's true.  The DVP was sent out without enough memory specified.
If you change the memory field to 300k or more it will work fine.
If you havent looked at modifying DVXs yet, you can also just open
a DOS window and run FONTINST.


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From: phenning@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Paul Henning)
Subject: RCONSOLE under DV/X?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:05:35 GMT
Reply-To: phenning@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Paul Henning)
Organization: U of Iowa, Iowa City, IA


Has anyone else had problems running Novell's Rconsole under DV/X?  I
have the DV/X Network Manager for LWP.   I keep the binaries of DV/X
on my fileserver (yes, only I can see them) due to lack of space on
my hard disk, so I load all of my networking software before I load
DV/X.

The symptoms I see are that the RCONSOLE program will start, either
as a DVP or running in a DOS window, let me select the server and
type in the password, then will die.  Sometimes it will hang the 
entire system, sometimes just it's window (also tried it full
screen, same nonsense).  I have upped it's minimum memory requirements
but that didn't seem to help.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Paul Henning					paul-henning@uiowa.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: bodoh@cae.wisc.edu (Daniel Bohoh)
Subject: Re: DOS print spoolers & DESQView v2.42
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 17 Dec 92 10:29:53 CST

In article <78500@hydra.gatech.EDU> gw18@prism.gatech.EDU (Greg Williams) writes:
>I'm looking for a print spooler that works with DESQView v2.42 for a friend
>who needs one.  What shareware and/or freeware spoolers exist out there?

Take a look at the DVSI2_00.ZIP package available on SIMTEL20, et al.
It contains a lot more than a print spooler, but does have a unix-like
LPR suite.  However, there are a few bugs, including the fact that graphics
(binary files) are not properly printed.  I'm working on a new version
which will be out soon (I hope).
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ECE Department                   bodoh@xraylith.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin-Madison
Madison, WI 53706
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: biediger@lonestar.utsa.edu (David . Biediger)
Subject: Re:  Desqview/X for sale
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 03:40:44 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.010923.2927@news.nd.edu> jim@stargate.helios.nd.edu (Jim McCusker) writes:
>In reply to a message from <1992Dec20.032644.847@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>:
>
>> Desqview/X  version 1.02  for sale.
>> Manuals bound with plastic spirals so they lay flat.
>
> Bound with plastic spirals ehh?  I bet QDeck might start wondering
>what else you did with those loose manual pages before you rebound them.
>I'm not accusing you of doing anything, but if you did, it was really
>stupid to advertise this way on a net that QDeck reads!  ;-)

Since it appears you are questioning my honesty I will explain WHY
I had the manuals bound and why I'm selling my copy of DV/X.  I'm
quadraplegic and type with a mouthstick.  I physically CAN'T turn the
pages of ANY paperback documenent.  I have ALL manuals, etc. I get that
come this way bound like this so I CAN use them.  I DID NOT make ANY
copies of the manual pages and I will NOT keep any copies of the disks.

I'm selling the program because it's incompatible with a TSR I NEED to
use because I type one key at a time.  I load this TSR in my autoexec.bat
file because I CAN'T use my PC without it.  This TSR provides "stickey keys"
by holding down either the CTRL, ALT, or SHIFT keys until another is pressed.
This TSR doesn't work in DV/X, that's why I'm selling it.

Are you wondering about anything else?


David Biediger
biediger@lonestar.utsa.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (Jeremy Mathers)
Subject: Re: How does Phar Lap DOS Extender 286 allocated its memory from QEMM?
Reply-To: pynq@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: D. J. Dougherty & Associates
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:34:07 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.225657.3463@qdeck.com> garyrich@qdeck.com (Gary Rich) writes:
...
>>However, when memory is allocated by the Phar Lap compiled application,
>>it does not show up in either of these tools.  It does come off the

Oops, I forgot about VCPI.  Yup, VCPI memory does not show up in either
MAPMEM or EMS DIR.  My mistake...

There are those, BTW, who would argue with your statement that it is
better than DPMI (not me, mind you).  Certainly, though, VCPI is much
more elegant and less intrusive than DPMI.

>You should look at the VCPI memory specification, authored by our own 
>Dan Spear and Bob Moot from Phar Lap and sponsored by AI Architechts, Lotus,
>Quadram, Qualitas <who?> and Rational Systems.  Highly reccomended 
>reading for anyone serious about programming.

I am familiar with VCPI, and I agree that it is the way to go for
protected mode programs to co-exist with each other.  Do you have an
address for obtaining said spec?

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: notarus@uiuc.edu (Mark Notarus)
Subject: Re: DVX: Remove X session via modem
Originator: notarus@deja-vu.aiss.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: notarus@uiuc.edu (Mark Notarus)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:26:07 GMT

jim@stargate.helios.nd.edu (Jim McCusker) writes:
}I access the internet via modem using Procomm Plus.  I dial in through 
}a university hub at 9600 Even, 7 data, 1 stop.  (They don't support N81 yet!)
}The system I log into is a Sun Sparqstation which supports X sessions.

 Well, you have two problems here, and each one is seperate.

  The easy problem, from your point of view, is to configure your machine, not
only with TCP drivers (me, i use PCTCP with slip.sys as my hardware driver)
that run over the modem connection.

  More importantly, you need to contact someone at your
university about reciveing a slip address. Slip stands for Serial Line Internet
Protocol, and it's the most widely available method of recieving tcp/ip
packets over the phone lines. What this would do, after you
recieve your slip address, is make your machien an actual internet host, 
capable of recieving EVERYTHING that can normally be transmitted via ethernet
or the standard ethernet.  

 Without these two things, there's no way that i'm aware of to run X over a 
modem.

 And yes, it's livable at 9600 baud, but myself, i really won't use
it unless i have a fully 14,400K connection. Compression is mostly useless
on packets..they're too small to get really good compression on, and 
X is hundreds of tiney packets. *shrug* don't expect a full speed connection. :)

 mark

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: "quarterdeck canada" <quarterdeck.canada@canrem.com>
Subject: dvtree or dshell for
Reply-To: "quarterdeck canada" <quarterdeck.canada@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:39:36 EST

SB>Is it possible to substitute some other program for the file viewer
SB>in DV/X File Manager?  I would would much prefer Buerg's list program
SB>or Qedit.

It is not possible to use another file viewer within File Manager.
However (and of course), this does not preclude you from using either of
those programs within DESQview/X.

SB>Or alternatively is there a program similar to DVtree or Dshell which
SB>works in DV/X.  The Dshell install seems to object to the new Learn
SB>interface.  DVtree almost works, but (among other things) the screen
SB>display is not updated automatically and one must "<alt>RTR" to
SB>refresh the screen.

This may be a Window Manager problem rather than a DVTree problem.  Stay
tuned to this space.

SB>Am I right in being disappointed in File Manager (compared with Dshell
SB>and DVtree), or have I missed some of its capability?

DShell and DVTree (wonderful as they are) do not allow you to transfer
files to/from a remote host -- DOS OR Unix.  In this respect FileMan has
them beat.  If you suggest ways to improve FileMan here, though, we can
certainly pass the messages along.

Regards,

Michael Bolton
Tech Support
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: kemp@convex.com (Phil Kemp)
Subject: Re: *** DV/X question - Windows 3.1 ***
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:52:01 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <chuck.723939828@micro> chuck@micro.caltech.edu (Chuck Higgins) writes:

>   I am a new user of Desqview/X.  I would like to know the answer to a
>simple question which doesn't seem to be addressed in the manual:  is
>there any way to run a windows 3.1 application DIRECTLY in an X window, 
>without running windows 3.1?  For instance, I would like to use my copy of
>Procomm Plus for Windows, as well as my copy of TRAX for windows, but I
>don't want to have to switch to MS Windows every time I need one of them.

Nope. You have to run windows, then the app. DV/X virtualizes windows
use of hardware and translates those requests to x-events which dv-x
resonds to. 

It would be nice if Qdeck could expand this virtualization to allow
for direct execution of windows apps though.. ;-)

Qdeck, commments?
PK
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: lfw@pssparc2.mitek.com (Larry Weiss)
Subject: Re: DV/X crash running xterm
Keywords: DV/X xterm crash
Organization: OpenConnect Systems, Dallas, TX
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:11:22 GMT

>LW> (Larry Weiss) writes:
>>LW>>The following xterm invocation will crash my installation of DV/X:
>>>>  xterm -fn "`ls`"

GR>>>>Gary Rich		<support@qdeck.com>
GR>Well, the problem is; it worked great for me.  xterm -fn "`ls`" gave me an 
GR>error of xterm:  bad command line option "Mwm" which it certainly is correct 
GR>about. xterm -fn `xlsfonts | grep helvetica | tail -1` actually worked to.  I
GR>was surprised.  I guess I'm actually starting to understand UNIX, God help
GR>me.  It gave me an xterm with the largest helvetica font available on my
GR>server.  That was one big ugly eye chart...  I tried it on both a SCO
GR>SVR3 box and on an SGI running Irix, of course from my DVX machines server.
GR>I think we've got something else going on here, but I'm not sure what.
  
OK, thanks!  I'll try to narrow down the parameters of the problem a bit
and post what I find.  I was using a SUN workstation xterm under ksh
when I tried the earlier experiment.  
 
Actually, -fn "ls" is not necessarily a "bad command line option", but
it is not the best tool to use to characterize the problem (if any)
with DV/X.   I should have spent some more time narrowing it before my
original post, but it seems to have inspired some very interesting
command line creations on your part!   After two years with UNIX, I too
am under the impression that I may be grasping some of the essentials,
but that's probably an illusion....
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: garyrich@qdeck.com (Gary Rich)
Subject: Re: Proper RSH or Telnet daemon for DV/X ???
Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:12:42 GMT

In article <BzB7q0.97G@SSD.intel.com> jkearns@ssd.intel.com (Jerry Kearns) writes:
>Is there a way to get DV/X 's RSH to behave as all the other  
>UNIX RSH's do, i.e., be able to issue "RSH hostname ls"
>and have the directory listing come to my current window,
>without opening another window.  This is a big problem, as our site
>requires that when dialing in from home, we come in through the SUN
>network.  Once I'm on the Sun, I can FTP to/from my DV/X PC, but I can't
>execute any DOS programs, even a "dir", because DV/X wants to open an 
>X window, and I'm not running X (I'm basically telnet'd in).
>
>(Another solution would be if DV/X had a telnet daemon, so I could 
>telnet, in line mode, to the DV/X machine to issue commands.)
>
>Thanks for any ideas,
>
>Jerry

No Jerry, this will not work.  I doubt that this will ever work.  This is
not what DVX was designed to do.  RSH does not behave like "all other
UNIX RSH's do"  because........ It is not UNIX.  No Jerry, named pipes
will still also not work.  You must be running X.  That _is_ the designed
purpose of DVX.  As you probably don't know, I'm the person that all the
other techs that you have asked this question of have come to to find 
out the answer.

If there were interest, a simple telnet daemon could be written without
too much trouble.  All the socket calls and other tools to build one
are included as part of the development kits.  I can't say how soon I
could cajole our developers into writing one, they have a lot of work
on their desks already.  If you wanted a telnet that supported programs
that wite direct to the screen or use a mouse then it's no longer a 
simple project.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: calb@edsi.plexus.COM (Calvin Bolwerk)
Subject: Has this been answered - working copy?
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 10:55:46 GMT


I asked a few weeks ago if there was such a thing as an evaluation 
copy of DV/X.  I have been gone for a while (on my honeymoon) and 
didn't receive an answer.

Does anyone know if there is an evaluation copy so that I can 
determine if this product will work in our enviroment?

Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: stssart@st.unocal.COM (Arnold Troeger)
Subject: Norton Backup for Dos, Jumbo J250 Tape Drive and DVX
Organization: Unocal Science & Technology Division
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:59:14 GMT

X-Disclaimer:	Opinions expressed here are my own and not UNOCAL's
 I have been trying to get Norton Backup for Dos to work in DVX with my
Jumbo J250 tape drive without success.  For some reason, Norton Backup
for Dos refuses to see the tape device although it works fine in Dos.
I tried the /HW... fix that was recently posted.  It also does not
appear to work.  My question is, has anyone gotten this combination of
software and hardware to work successfully?  if so, what's the secret?

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: vla@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Louis Verhagen)
Subject: Winx crashes after a while 
Keywords: Winx
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:11:26 GMT

 I have been playing around with winx (microsoft windows in a X
 window) on my 486 (inside dvx version 1.02). After a while
 it crashes. It will just disappear from the screen. If am
 working with in it with Exel, Word for windows or WordPerfect
 for windows it sometimes comes up with the strangest error
 messages. Sometimes the program will continue, sometimes
 I will have to start the program again, sometimes the
 winx program will disappear, and sometimes I find myself
 looking at a computer that just rebooted. I have noticed
 with WordPerfect that it sometimes refuses to load, untill
 I have started another program (e.g. solitair). This only
 happens in winx. I have 16 mb of memory and no other
 applications running. I am using dos5.0, Qemm6.03. The
 date on winx is 27-4-92.

 This is most anoying, because I sometimes have winx
 display on my ibm r6000 to transfer some data (manually
 ofcoarse)

 Greetings
 Louis
From: gw18@prism.gatech.EDU (Greg Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: DOS print spoolers & DESQView v2.42
Date: 17 Dec 92 14:52:45 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I'm looking for a print spooler that works with DESQView v2.42 for a friend
who needs one.  What shareware and/or freeware spoolers exist out there?


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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: jkearns@ssd.intel.com (Jerry Kearns)
Subject: Proper RSH or Telnet daemon for DV/X ???
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Divison, Intel Corp.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:41:59 GMT

Is there a way to get DV/X 's RSH to behave as all the other  
UNIX RSH's do, i.e., be able to issue "RSH hostname ls"
and have the directory listing come to my current window,
without opening another window.  This is a big problem, as our site
requires that when dialing in from home, we come in through the SUN
network.  Once I'm on the Sun, I can FTP to/from my DV/X PC, but I can't
execute any DOS programs, even a "dir", because DV/X wants to open an 
X window, and I'm not running X (I'm basically telnet'd in).

(Another solution would be if DV/X had a telnet daemon, so I could 
telnet, in line mode, to the DV/X machine to issue commands.)

Thanks for any ideas,

Jerry
From: dewerk@yosemite.csufresno.edu (<< Dragon >>)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: dv/x
Date: 17 Dec 92 10:34:15 GMT
Organization: California State University, Fresno


can someone please tell me where i might find a copy of desqview/x

i have looked in the faq but it didn't help me...  (one entry even
had a site listed with the file(s) in the /tmp directory...  /tmp's
get wiped out every so often...)

any help would be appreciated...

thanks in advance...


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From: sfm@manduca.neurobio.arizona.edu (Stephen Matheson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Print Screen to file - possble?
Date: 15 Dec 92 04:58:52 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group

From article <9928@amsaa-cleo.brl.mil>,
by ledwick@amsaa-cleo.brl.mil (Bill Ledwick):
> Simple question, I hope...
> 	Is there an easy way to cause print screen to go to
> 	a text file rather than the printer?

I have a utility called LPT2FILE which came with Jeff Prosise'
book PC Magazine DOS 5 Techniques and Utilities.  It is a TSR
whose purpose is to capture printer output from a program and
direct it to a file on disk.  I do not know whether it will do
the same after hitting PrintScreen.  I assume that it is available
on the DOS archive sites.  Let me know if not.
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sfm@neurobio.arizona.edu
From: exuhag@exu.ericsson.se (James Hague)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: A Frank Discussion on Piracy (Flames, Anyon
Date: 17 Dec 92 23:10:07 GMT
Reply-To: exuhag@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Richardson, TX
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

super-dave writes:
>
>Commercial software companies are soaking Joe PeeCee as well as
>corporations, and the only difference is that Ford Motor Company can
>afford $500 per computer for a word processing package.

The high profile software market is not necessarily the best
one for individual consumers.  In a way, the slew of PC magazines
which emphasize products from Microsoft, Borland, Lotus, etc., is
hurting the the market.  You can get excellent software from
less visible companies if you are willing to look around.  PC Write 
is still a good deal.  Ditto for 4DOS, The $25 Network, Power BASIC,
etc.  Smaller companies who don't get the benefit of free
adverstising often try harder to please their customers.  And
those big packages like Microsoft Word are usually overkill
for someone that doesn't need to produce newsletters and annual
reports.

--
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exuhag@exu.ericsson.se