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Subject: SB: more memories con't
From: <MLS131@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:11:42 EST
Organization: Penn State University

I really loved the Kelly/Peter/Joe stuff.  As a disclaimer, I want to say that
I was only 14 at the time, so if Robin Wright was as bad an actress as everyone
 is saying, I didn't notice.

One scene I remember vividly took place in the Perkin's house.  Peter was known
to be the Carnation Killer, as a matter of fact he had kidnapped Kelly and was
really pissed that she escaped.  Mason (Davies), a pregnant Amy, and Brick were
in the house.  (Jade may have been there too, I don't remember)  Peter held
them all at gun point and somehow Mason convinced him to let everyone go but
Joe, after all, that was who his problem was with.  SuperCruz to the rescue,
set up a police headquaters next door, where a frantic Kelly waited nervously.
 Cruz was hardly a picture of calmness either, Joe was his very best friend.
Peter went on and on about how Joe had stolen Kelly from him (Joe and Kelly
were married).  Cruz came up with a great plan to get a voice recording of
Kelly calling for help and throw it in the attic so Peter would go upstairs
leaving Joe free to get out of the house.  In the meantime, Kelly was cold, so
someone gave her a police jacket to wear and she found a gun in the pocket.
She thought she could save Joe herself and snuck in the backdoor just as Peter
was on his way upstairs to the taperecorder and Joe was a few feet from the
front door.  When Joe saw Kelly, he went to her and Peter saw her too.  I think
she had called Peter's name in order to shoot him.  (SHe had a small pistol and
he had something semi-automatic- she didn't think this through well).  When
Kelly tried to shoot Peter, she discovered that the gun wasn't loaded.  Peter
went to shoot her and Joe yelled "NO!" and jumped in front of her.  He was shot
 in the stomach and he fell back into Kelly's arms.  Joe charged Peter and
Peter through him through the bay window.  SuperCruz somehow got Kelly out of
the house so she could be at an unconscious Joe's bedside as he died in the
hospital.

Perhaps the entire situation was a little sappy, but I loved it.  Cruz's
reaction to Joe's death was also quite touching.

I don't remember the actor's name that played Joe, but he played the bully
opposite Michael J. Fox in the movie teen-wolf soon after that.

                                             --Margie
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From: janet@cs.UAlberta.CA (Janet Service)
Subject: Re: Y&R:Cricket's Mommy
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:47:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan15.124851.1546@galaxy.gov.bc.ca>, rforster@galaxy.gov.bc.ca (Russ Forster) writes:
> In article <1993Jan15.121813.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu>, skgalich@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes:
> >
> > What was her name????????????????
> >
> 	I have no idea I've been trying to figure it out for a while now.  Liz
> doesn't know and my mother (a very long time YR watcher) cannot recall it
> either.  The actress's name is Rebecca Street if that helps.
>  
> > 
> > Stephany

I think her name was Jessica.

Janet S
From: mjmh@crsa.bu.edu (Michael J M Holmes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Character glut
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:37:43 GMT
Organization: Boston University Center for Remote Sensing

In article <1993Jan20.194235.3033@zeus.ieee.org> sbookey@ep.ieee.org writes:

>It seems to me that AMC is missing something vital.  The old
>favorites are still okay, but the newer characters are lacking.
>In general, I really am not compelled by the Maricks, Gloria, 
>Galen, Steven, the Fryes, Lucas, Mimi, or even Nat and Trevor!

What??!!  Not compelled by Gloria??!!??
Well, personally, I am *quite* compelled by Gloria!

:-)

>Personally, I think it's time Steven and Galen were exiled
>for good.  The only reason to even see Steven was so that
>Tad could be examined by someone other than Joe.  The Carter
>Jones stuff was good, but NewNat's scenes with him were
>far better than anything he did with Galen.  Time to go, and
>take An Li with them. 

Well, I think it *is* true that AMC could lose a few of its
current characters with no great loss, but I hope that
An Li isn't one of them.  I think the character has a lot
of potential that the writers keep missing.

PVU, IMO, needs to come back as a background for some
storylines.  We could have a few new characters, 
Asian or Hispanic, and perhaps some of their family members.
A University is a great place to mix up some characters!

Plus, Terrence, An Li, and Brian already are going to
classes (which we never see!), and it is not inconceivable
that Hayley, Charlie, Trevor, and even Dix  might drop
back in for more education.

Also, some other characters could drop in to teach a 
course or two - Dr. Joe might not be a bad professor!!

(And, of course, a major storyline could develop between
an intrepid young male secretary at the Pine Valley
University's Dept. of Geography, and his societally-
unacceptable love for his copier, Sunshine!)


;-)

-- 
========================================================================
Mike Holmes       mjmh@crsa.bu.edu           "Happiness Will Prevail!"
Boston University Department of Geography (a truly GREAT place to work!)
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From: daveo@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Dave Ochs)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:35:25 GMT
Subject: Re: AMC: Best line of the day 1/21
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
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>/ hpcvra:rec.arts.tv.soaps / gavinl1@jaguar.uofs.edu (Lori Gavin) / 10:17 am  Jan 21, 1993 /
>
>Erica had a really great line today.  I was hysterical and my office mates
>think I'm nuts!
>
>Erica was in the cabin with Dimitri's razor when Dimitri and Edmund walked in.
>Erica pretends to remember Dimitri in different clothes.  He gets all excited
>and is going to tell her the story, but Edmund convices him to let Erica 
>remember on her own.  She says he was wearing a sash and shiny gold button, 
>with beautiful music playing.
>
>Dimitri:  "Yes! Yes!" (A scene remembering Budapest, dancing in their costumes.)
>
>Erica:  "Were you ever in a marching band?"
>
>Erica is definately at her best doing comedy!

I agree with you ... which is why I had already turned it into my sig!

>|  Lori Gavin                      |           UUUU       SSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Dave Ochs            "I just had this image of you ... you were wearing a
daveo@cv.hp.com       sash and shiny gold buttons ... were you ever in a 
Corvallis, OR         marching band?"          "Amnesia" Erica to Dimitri
From: nina@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Nina)
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Subject: Y&R: An update for 1/26/93
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:35:47 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: nina@csd4.csd.uwm.edu


        Can anyone please give me an update on Y&R for Tuesday?  I need 
to know what's going on with John and Jill's party!  Does everyone now 
know about their "marry-age"?  And how about Ryan and Nina?  Have they 
slept together yet?  I'll give Ryan about one more week before he "breaks
down" and asks Nina for some.....(Or maybe he can get some from Lauren--
it seems as if she's giving it away freely!)


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From: jereese@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (jean reese)
Subject: Re: SB: Davies vs Thomson
Keywords: POLL
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:38:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.210822.29022@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> saj@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.suravlas) writes:
>
>In order not to let things die out, not yet at least, let's take a poll.
>Who do we think was a better Mason, was it Lane Davies or Gordon
>Thomson?

John, that's like comparing apples and oranges! Lane Davies is the only
one who could have worn a white suit and been saved, and ALSO play
Sonny Sprockett, but Gordon Thomson is really the better "Mason" of
the two.

All right, if you push me against the wall, I'll vote for 


Gordon Thomson


Jean
>
>I'll keep track of the votes and post the results.
>
>John
>
>-- 
>
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From: patstew@oz.plymouth.edu (Pat Steward)
Subject: Re: AMC: Update Thurs. Jan. 14
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, NH.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 13:30:50 GMT

>>but! at the risk of being burnt to a crisp, does anyone else think
>>mek looks like put on a few (in fact, more than a few) pounds in his
>>absence??? comparing him in the flashback scenes with him now, his
>>face is definitely much chubbier.
>>
>I noticed that too.  He shore looked like a doll in those
>flashbacks!  (And I'm not really an MEK fan - slowly converting?? ;)

This happened the last time MEK went away and came back, too.  I
noticed it in his face, mostly (gawd, what a great face).  Didn't make
a bit of difference, of course, since he was still one of the most
gorgeous men on TV and DEFINITELY in the top five for personality!
-- 
Patricia Martin Steward                      patstew@oz.plymouth.edu
I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is;
I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express senti-
ments that differentiate me from a doormat.       Rebecca West, 1913
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From: rl24@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Robert Lamoureux)
Subject: Re: GL: Future speculation (SPOILER)
Reply-To: rl24@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Robert Lamoureux)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:29:28 GMT

In article <1jui7jINNob1@umbc4.umbc.edu> sher@umbc.edu (Sherri Crain) writes:
>>>lizb@banyan.com writes:
>>>|> Little spoilers:
>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|> I read in one of the rags (SOD maybe?  The Feb. preview?) that Ed will
>>>|> seek comfort from "a surprising source."
>>>|>
>>>|> How about Jenna???
>
>>>I think it will be Holly ... they can help each other feeeeeeeel better. ;-)
>>
>>I don't think that would be a surprise to anyone-boring and
>>predictable would be more like it.
>
>  I think it'll be Vanessa.  She was oh so understanding of Ed's feelings
>while persecuting Lillian.
>
>What would be interesting would be Frank and Ed!  Two men who've lost
>the women they love so much finding comfort in one another.  Ah,well
>we know this won't happen.
>
>Other picks/guesses:
>
>Blake - now THAT would be surprising!
>
>Holly - as someone said..boring
>
>Lillian - this would be surprising because you wouldn't expect it at
>this point.
>

You want a REAL surprise...how about Roger?  He was certainly broken
up at Maureen's death on Friday's show.  And it would certainly 
qualify as a surprise.

I'm with you all, though, in that it really shouldn't be a woman,
or at the very least not one with whom ol' Doc Hormone will then
subsequently hit the sheets with.  Talk about cheapening Maureen's
memory.  

My vote is still that the "surprising source" is the nearest bottle
of bourbon.

Rob
From: bjbst15@icarus.lis.pitt.edu (Bonnie J. Black)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: GL:  the Wall (was Re: GL: Update for Thursday, Jan. 7)
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:13:02 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1993Jan13.215326.8068@usl.edu> drs1002@ucs.usl.edu (Schwartz Donald R) writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.204128.28326@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> jgacker@news.gsfc.nasa.gov (James G. Acker) writes:
>>
>>	Another friend of mine said she was down there when a woman in
>>a wedding dress was standing in front of the wall.  She said there
>>were people crying everywhere.
>>
>
>i visited the wall about 2 years ago, and harley`s description
>of the feelings it brought about were VERY accurate -- especially when
>she likened it to being in church....
>
>i was surprised at how moving it (visiting the wall) was.
>
	It's been my experience that it's always the same.  Every time I
go back, it's just as moving an experience as it was the first time.  I
always advise people who are about to go there to be sure to bring a
handkerchief.

	The same advice could well apply to anyone who is going to watch
Guiding Light of late.  I guess having a day off for the Inauguration gave
me a much-needed rest.

	Run Mindy out of town.

Bonnie
From: jt3j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jennifer Allyson Turner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: LOV: Up.dater for absent one
Date: 23 Jan 93 18:35:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.QfMVmfa00iV0M5TWYv
	<1993Jan21.221117.21380@ncsu.edu>
Organization: Sophomore, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>>Amelia Heinle joins the show January 19 as STEPHANIE
>>BAXTER, who will try to come between ALLY and CASEY.
>>
>>Can't wait for this one.
> 
>Is it just me, or does she have that same Noxema face look that Hannah has?

My mother thinks Hannah looks like a troll.  I agree with her.  Anyone else?

Jenn
From: ckile@andy.bgsu.edu (crystal kile)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: GL: Future speculation (SPOILER)
Date: 24 Jan 93 19:41:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: andy.C1DIox.EC
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.

Vanessa and Ed??  Ack!  Ack!! Phetewwwieee!!!!  Really, now, Van has too 
much class for that!!! Besides, after Nadine's little deception comes out,
Van and Billy are slated for yet another romantic go-round...
(Even though I've always sort of wanted Van & Fletcher to really get
together...)
 
No, I fearlessly predict that Ed Bauer's squeeze nouvelle will be one
little Miss Melinda Sue Lewis.
 
        (gasp!!)  Remember, you heard it here first!!
 
See, then Rick Bauer can come back to town & he and Daddy-o can go mano a
mano over the Mindster, who, as we know, has never really gotten OVER
Rick...
 
                                        My two cents...
                                                Crystal
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From: rose@cecily.UUCP (Rose M. Delckum)
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Subject: Re: DOOL: Can it get any worse?
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:59:46 GMT
Organization: The New Alaska Riviera
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

In article <51658@shamash.cdc.com>, Doreen Kasson writes:

> EFS6ET1@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU writes:
> 
> >Every time I swear that the show cannot get any worse, it does.
> 
> I hear ya!
> 
> >And, (no I'm not done yet) they KILLED the cat???????  What did they
> >think Zeus would do, testify?  Aside from the fact I think it was
> >an abhorrent choice on the part of TPTB, what would Larry hope to
> >gain?  Murdering Zeus would only draw Bo's attention.
> 
> ANIMAL CRUELTY!!!! Animal Cruelty!!!!  Geez, couldn't they have thought
> of something better, like maybe give Zeus away to someone else?  That
> is sooooooo stupid.

     Okay, I missed the show(s) in question, could someone please
enlighten me?  How was Zeus killed?  And WHY?  This isn't like a 
Disney movie with a feline sleuth or anything....

 I'm confused!

> 
> So, how about that "steamy" shower scene between Roman and Marlena?
> All I could think was "Eww, grody" (as couldn't be better said by
> Shelly from Northern Exposure). :-)

     That was like Friday, right?  I caught part of it....I think
"ewww, grody" pretty accurately sums up my feelings upon seeing it.
I turned the tv off.
> 
> -- Papayayayaya

     Roserooni

PS Yo Spud!  Whereyaat?
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From: cshuy@zeus.calpoly.edu (No One Knows)
Subject: OLTL: Blair prediction.
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:12:31 GMT

This is just a gut feeling, but does anyone think that 
the major storyline Blair is going to be involved in is
going to involve her being murdered and Asa and Dorian
being the prime suspects.

Just a thought.

Christina

-- 
"Five to one against and falling...four to one against and falling...three to
one...two..one...probability factor of one to one...we have normality, I repeat
we have normality.  Anything you still can't deal with is therefore your own
problem."		-from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
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From: zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu (Carolyn Zaccaria)
Subject: Re: AMC: Inauguration Day
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:18:38 GMT

In article <9301201531.AA16005@hp-and.an.hp.com> susanm@hp-and.an.hp.com (Susan Margulies) writes:
>Hey everybody!  Happy Inauguration Day!
>
>I checked my TV guide this morning to see if AMC would be shown,
>and guess what?  IT IS!!!!!!

Well, that was half-right. It was half-on :) I got the Mimi-Derek-
Lucas thing figured out, and the Haley/Adam thing figured out (GO
HALO :)!) but I am not sure I understand why Dimitri (Jeep named
him Dimbulb and I gotta say - I love it :)) found Erica at his cabin!
Why was she going there? What was she doing with the razor (I assume
reminiscing over her "lost-love" again - even tho this is HER choice),
but Do dimbulb and Edmund think she is trying to kill herself with the
razor (which I know she's not). I am not sure how this happened or what
led up to it. Anyone??? :). I loved Haley telling off Adam. Even tho it
was only half the show, it *WAS THE* show :-)

Thanks if anyBUDy knows, 

>So I set my VCR for 12:30PM - 2:30PM to be sure I catch AMC!

Susan, you are definitely a dedicated AMC fan! :)

Carolyn "always loves a Party!" Zaccaria

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From: Joanna L. Castillo <pefv702@utpe.pe.utexas.edu>
Subject: DOOL: TAN: Okay...where's Spud?
X-Xxdate: Fri, 22 Jan 93 17:47:16 GMT
Organization: UT Petroleum Engineering Dept.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 17:02:39 GMT

Sigh...here we go again.  Spud?  Where are you?????  I know I'm not the
only one that misses your...uh...special (yeah, that's it) slant on the
show.  Come out...come out...wherever you are!

Pithy quote in Spud's honor:

    "If I'm too strong for some people, that's their problem."

                                                  -- Glenda Jackson

We're waiting...

JoJo the Lemonhead.

--
| "Whenever I dwell for any length of time on my own shortcomings, they     |
| gradually begin to seem mild harmless, rather engaging little things, not |
| at all like the staring defects in other people's characters." -- so said |
| Margaret Halsey   |   pefv702@utpe.pe.utexas.edu Hook 'em! Gus-ball, '93! |
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From: thompson@waldron.Stanford.EDU (Sharon Thompson-Schill)
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN: Accents (was Dixie losing her accent)
Organization: Psychology Dept, Stanford Univ.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 16:22:50 GMT

In article <199301251535.AA05877@donne.unx.sas.com> alex@unx.sas.com (Alexandra Bost) writes:
>cwong@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Catherine Wong) writes:
>
>>So, who lives in the south and knows a northerner who picked up a southern
>>accent?
>>Anybody?
>>I have a friend who will pick up the inflections and accents of who
>>ever she is talking to at the time.  
>
>Lucky Girl!
>


I went to college in the South, and picked up a southern accent.
For a while I couldn;t recognize my own voice. Now I'm in California
but I can't shake this accent (which pleases my Southern husband to
no end).  

Sharon
From: lf01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Liz Fox)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Drake and Deidre Part II
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:01:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.sfNQ_tm00WBM07cOg9
Distribution: world
Organization: Office of the Dean - CFA, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

On 25-Jan-93 in DOOL:  Drake and Deidre Par..
user Victoria Hamilton@carina writes:
> 
>So, does Marlena know how to fantasize, or what?
> 
>Vickie


Yes, Stinky - SHE certainly DOES!!!

I find this Drake and Deidre pairing to be just as good as the first
time around with them.  Will TPTB GET A CLUE and realise that THIS IS
CHEMISTRY!!  THIS IS GOOD!  Last week on the pier - I was mesmerized. 
Completely.  They had the best and most powerful scenes of anyone on
this show in recent memory.  When he grabbed her clenched fists - whoa
baby. Now, I readily admit that Drake is not Sir Lawrence Olivier and
Deidre can be a royal ice princess - but DAMN -- put these two together
and you certainly get heat.

And the bedroom scenes - whoa baby.  Now - you have to admit (even if
you don't like Drake or find him attractive) that he definitely has a
shall, I say - defter touch in bed than "Arm-Wrestlemania Wayne"....what
the hell was alll that rolling around and grabbing (not that I MIND
rolling and grabbing...;)) But I find Drake's...ummm APPROACH to be more
seductive and sexy than Wayne....and PUHLEEZE Wayne...cover it up ....I
don't need to be seeing you and Patrick Muldoon naked every day!! :)

So....suffice it to say - I like Drake and Deidre together...and it is
nice to see Drake in those bedroom scenes again!!

A lusty banana ;)
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From: robin@ntmtv.UUCP (Robin Coutellier)
Subject: AMC:  TAN: Mail & Post Problems With UUNET
Originator: robin@volans
Reply-To: robin@ntmtv.UUCP (Robin Coutellier)
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:49:35 GMT

Our news has been flaky/slow for a couple of days, and our mail is messed
up too.  I just found out that UUNET (via Portal) is down.  If anyone
responds to one of my posts or emsgs automatically, it will go thru UUNET
and will probably bounce.  If you use my alternate email address, 
ames!ntmtv!robin, it should reach me.

This never fails when I post something important like the Crimes Against
Women post.  I've been saving the responses, but I will probably miss a
lot of them by the time uunet gets straightened out.  Would someone please
save these posts for me and send them when my communication problems
relent?  Thanks a lot!


Robin Coutellier                   
Northern Telecom, Mountain View, CA
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ames!ntmtv!robin   	          

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