HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hdavies@rx.xerox.com (Hugh J.E. Davies)
Subject: Re: Sainsbury flight offer
Reply-To: hdavies@rx.xerox.com
Organization: Rank Xerox Ltd.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 11:29:52 GMT

In article GGt@newcastle.ac.uk, S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre) writes:
>In the spirit of the season, has anyone the details of the BA / Sainsbury's flight offer? 
>I know if you spend so many thousands of pounds on food at Sburys that you get .00x% off
>on BA flights, but don't know the exact numbers.
>
>Anyone?  Anyone?
>
>Scott
>
>
>-- 
>EMAIL: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk   OR scott@shrug.dur.ac.uk (NeXTmail)
>SNAIL: Pyschment of Departology, University of Durham, Durham, DH1 3LE
>SUN Computers:  "Nice chips, shame about her OS"
>"If a virtual tree falls in a virtual forest, does it make a virtual sound?"


You missed it. The offer closed a couple of weeks ago. If you haven't got the receipts by now, it's too late - although I have seen applicable Sainsburys receipts for sale.

Basically, if you spent loads of money in Sainsburys, you got a voucher that gets 25% off airline fares. How far you can go depends on how much money you can spend.

You spend;	You can go to;
200		Europe
400		North America
800		???
1000		Australia

You can't travle at Christmas or Easter, you must book before 31st May and travel before 30th June. Up to 4 people can get discount off their tickets on one voucher, providing they travel together. The undiscounted price of the ticket must be at least 229. (I think - all this from memory, hence may not be exact.)
---


Regards,

Hugh.
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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: hdavies@rx.xerox.com (Hugh J.E. Davies)
Subject: Re: Hoover flight deals
Reply-To: hdavies@rx.xerox.com
Organization: Rank Xerox Ltd.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:40:16 GMT

In article 92Dec21101313@arran.dcs.ed.ac.uk, cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke) writes:
>In article <THoZVB48w165w@mantis.co.uk> mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) writes:
>
>   At least if you book a seat on BR you actually get one.  Not like with
>   airlines, where they may give your seat away unless you check in early
>   enough.
>
>Not true.  I've booked a seat on BR only to find that someone else has boomed
>the same seat; and I've seen it happen to other people too.  It's happened
>twice in a dozen Anglo-Scottish journeys.
>--
>	-- Chris. 	cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk   (on Janet, cc@uk.ac.ed.dcs)
>
>		


*grin* We (my wife and I) were double booked last year on the London-Inverness motorail. We turned up at our sleeper, only to find a family of four already in it. What was worse, we had booked months previously, and they had bought tickets that night. Sigh.

After much shouting and arm waving, it turns out that it happens so often that BR keep a spare cabin in each coach for the double-bookees.
---


Regards,

Hugh.
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From: steve@acorn.co.uk (Steve "daffy" Hunt)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.telecom
Subject: Re: Cable provider offering phone service
Date: 21 Dec 92 14:06:18 GMT
Followup-To: uk.misc,uk.telecom
Distribution: uk
Organization: Acorn Computers Limited, Cambridge, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Peter Robinson (pr@cl.cam.ac.uk) wrote, in lines exceeding 80 columns:

: P.S.  Does anyone know why you still have to have a television licence
: even when you only take programs off cable?  I thought that there had
: been a contrary ruling in the case of satellite television.

Not an unreasonable requirement given that Cambridge Cable provide
BBC1 and BBC2.
-- 
				Steve Hunt	steve@acorn.co.uk
Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: keith@unipalm.co.uk (Keith Mitchell)
Subject: Re: Video Plus
Keywords: code cipher NSA (Hi, guys!)
Organization: Unipalm Ltd., 216 Cambridge Science Park, Cambridge CB4 4WA, UK
Distribution: uk
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 20:05:46 GMT

ian@unipalm.co.uk (Ian Phillipps) writes:

>I'm not sure if this should be posted to sci.crypt, but does anyone
>know (or even better, has anyone reverse-engineered) the code numbers
>appearing in the Radio Times for the Video Plus device?

Yes, they have been published on the net. The last people to do this
received legal threats from the manufacturers of the handsets not to
do so. The encoding is proprietary to this company and subject to
patent protection.  Listings publishers pay for the privilege of
printing these numbers, so it is not surprising the Video+ people
are touchy about it.

Of course, what will happen, as with most propietary encryption
schemes used for broadcasting, is that eventually knowledge of how
to unpick the code will be so widespread in the public domain that
the codes will have to be changed, and you can bet the punters who
bought the handsets in the first place will be the ones who have to
cough up for this...

I prefer Teletext Program Delivery Control myself, buried but not
dead (see pages 300/301) by the new teletext service on Channel 4.

Keith Mitchell

Public IP Exchange             keith@pipex.net
216 The Science Park           keith@unipalm.co.uk
Cambridge, UK                  keith@uk.co.pipex	(non-IP JANET sites)
Phone: +44 223-424616
Fax:   +44 223-426868
From: SJKlyne@cen.ex.ac.uk (S.J.Klyne)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: CBM PET? I'LL BUY OLD MACHINES!!
Date: 22 Dec 92 18:22:22 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Computer Unit. - University of Exeter. UK

In article <1gponmINNhf9@bnsgd245.bnr.co.uk> rickt@bnr.co.uk (Rick Tait) writes:

[...]
							Yes folks, I'm
   prepared to pay money, good money for a Commodore Pet, as well as any other
   interesting computers (old) you have ready to throw out, so if you've
   got an old computer that you don't need or use anymore, please get in
   touch with me and we can talk business!

We will have an Apple Lisa with hard disk
for disposal early next year ...


simon
--
--
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email :    sjk@maths.exeter.ac.uk
-- 
--
Simon Klyne, Department of Mathematics, University of Exeter, England
email :    sjk@maths.exeter.ac.uk
From: cstadbg@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr M J Brown)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Connectivity to Coventry Tech College/Butts College
Date: 31 Dec 1992 13:53:02 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
Distribution: uk
NNTP-Posting-Host: lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk


Does anybody know if Coventry Tech college AKA Butts College are connected
onto a network, and if so, how I can mail people there, and vice versa.

Thanks

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From: abaum@armltd.uucp (Allen Baum)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Mac sucking extra voltage
Date: 30 Dec 92 12:30:03 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Advanced RISC Machines Ltd

dhd@exnet.co.uk (Damon) writes:

>In article <1992Dec29.205521.19766@Firewall.Nielsen.Com> tdubois@nis.Naitc.Com (Tom Dubois) writes:
>>I'm bringing my Mac IIsi with me to London.  The Apple specs say it will work 
>>on 240 volts, 50 Hz no problem.  Does this mean I can just plug it in as long
>>as I get an adaptor?  Not to sound ethnocentric, but is the power company 

I brought my MAC SE from the U.S., got a different power cord and plugged it in.
No problem. Likewise, my external disk.

My Mass Micro removable cartridge drive, however, needed a jumper switched around
inside before it would work.

I believe only the original Mac 128k/512k will not work on 240V. They had special
versions for the UK market, with completely different analog cards.

-- 

----------------
Allen J. Baum		Apple Computer		baum@apple.com, abaum@armltd.co.uk
From: igb@fulcrum.co.uk (Ian G Batten)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Record shops (LPs)
Date: 21 Dec 92 09:38:57 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Fulcrum Communications

In article <1992Dec18.175410.2865@lsl.co.uk> snail@lsl.co.uk writes:
> when did you last see a CD player with an XLR (Cannon) socket on it?

Yesterday.

Balanced operation is almost standard on high-end US equipment.  

Naim argue that DIN connectors are preferable to phonos.  They may be
right --- except for WBT phonos the contact pressures are pretty poor.

ian
From: peterw@spider.co.uk (Peter Woodhouse)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Sainsbury flight offer
Date: 21 Dec 92 08:39:50 GMT
Organization: Spider Software, Edinburgh, Scotland

In article <BzGEyE.GGt@newcastle.ac.uk> S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk writes:
>In the spirit of the season, has anyone the details of the BA / Sainsbury's flight offer? 
>I know if you spend so many thousands of pounds on food at Sburys that you get .00x% off
>on BA flights, but don't know the exact numbers.
>
>Anyone?  Anyone?
>
>Scott

I'm afraid you are a bit late.  You had to collect Sainsbury's receipts in the
12 week period up to the 30th November.  These had to be sent off to claim a 
30% off voucher by 12th December.  You had to collect the following values of
receipts (apologies for any inaccuracies as I don't have the leaflet here with
me) to qualify.  A few items did not count eg. Petrol and cashback on switch
cards.

	#200 - for European flights
	#400 - for US flights (+ acouple of others
	#600 - for Asia/India (I think)
	#800 - for Oz/New Zealand.

Peter
-- 
Spider Software                                 E-mail:  peterw@spider.co.uk
Spider Park, Stanwell Street                    Phone :  +44 31 555 5166
Edinburgh, Scotland
Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: dave@dhcs.demon.co.uk (Dave Hodgkinson)
Subject: Re: Milton Keynes - was Re: NORTHAMPTON POL
Organization: IISC, dept of hackery.
	<1992Dec21.112329.17784@spectrum.xerox.com>
Apparently-To: mail2news@news.demon.co.uk
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 15:21:48 +0000

In article <1992Dec21.112329.17784@spectrum.xerox.com> hdavies@rx.xerox.com (Hugh J.E. Davies) writes:


   In article 92Dec18120840@dhcs.dhcs.demon.co.uk, dave@dhcs.demon.co.uk (Dave Hodgkinson) writes:
   >
   >my #.02 :-)
   >
   >
   >The beer in the locality is *awful*. Greene King or Charles Wells.
   >*gag*. Woburn has a couple of free houses though.
   >

   Whilst I disagree totally about Greene King, I can recommend Ye
   Three Fyshes in Turvey, despite the ghastly twee spelling of the name.
   It's a brew-pub, and the ales are all most palatable. Their bitter is
   called "Two Henry's Ale" after the middle names of the brewers, they
   do a strong bitter called "That" (presumably so that they can satisfy
   orders for "a pint of that".) They are about to start doing a stout
   (name unknown). There's excellent food (after 7pm, in the evenings)
   and (fanfare) Christmas i

Well, Turvey is a long way from MK. Rules out walking back from the
pub pissed.

   cially banned there. Any mention of the dread festive season before
   Dec 25th results in a 10p fine (proceeds to charity) or you can buy a
   dispensation for UKP 5.

Sounds good to me


   Regards,

   Hugh.

And a jolly Winter Solstice to you too :-)

Dave

-- 
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From: abaum@armltd.uucp (Allen Baum)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Mac sucking extra voltage
Date: 31 Dec 92 11:26:19 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Advanced RISC Machines Ltd

sw@network-analysis-ltd.co.uk (Sak Wathanasin) writes:


>In article <11067@armltd.uucp> (uk.misc), abaum@armltd.uucp (Allen Baum) writes:

>> I believe only the original Mac 128k/512k will not work on 240V. They had special
>> versions for the UK market, with completely different analog cards.

>They can't be *that* different: I had a 128K that I bought in the US
>when the Mac was first introduced. 

Hmm, my father father used to fix those things. I've seen both boards
side by side, and the layout is different, the transformer is
different, and lots of the components are different (mostly beefed up
versions). The original Mac power supply had a lot of corners cut, in
terms of cheaper, lower rated components, to cut costs, which meant
lots of field failures.
-- 

----------------
Allen J. Baum		Apple Computer		baum@apple.com, abaum@armltd.co.uk
From: smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Record shops (LPs)
Date: 21 Dec 92 10:32:10 GMT
Reply-To: P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Distribution: uk
Organization: University of Bristol

In article <BzGqwI.1ru@fulcrum.co.uk> igb@fulcrum.co.uk (Ian G Batten) writes:
>Talking of which, what's happened to ``Q Sound'', as used on the recent
>Madonna compilation and the latest Roger Waters album?  That messes
>about with phase to create a grotesque (my opinion) stereo effect.  The
>mono compatibility of that is about zero.  I wonder if radio stations
>refusing to play recordings made with it affected its success :-)

My suspicion is that your guess is right.  There were supposed to be
about 90 Q-sound recordings out by now, and far as I know there are
only 3:  your two, and Sting's 'Soul Cages' (I think).  Far as the
effect went, I thought it was rather effective, though was best with
'effects', like the sparkly little 'tings' and background whispers that
Madonna decorates her music with, and less good with the main
instrumental track and vocals.  (I'd bet Kraftwerk would have fun with
Q, for example.)

The Beeb worked out at once that Madonna's Q'ed album couldn't be mixed
down into mono.  Fortunately, it was a compilation, and when it was in
the charts, whenever it came time to play a piece of it they'd go get
the original album from which it had been taken.  Q's inventors claimed
to have sorted this out, and Sting's album was supposed to mono OK;
since I've never heard it (to my knowledge), I can't express a personal
opinion.

-- 
Paul Smee, Computing Service, University of Bristol, Bristol BS8 1UD, UK
 P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk - ..!uunet!uknet!bsmail!p.smee - Tel +44 272 303132
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From: ray@philmtl.philips.ca (Ray Dunn)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.telecom
Subject: Re: Cable provider offering phone service
Date: 1 Jan 93 23:27:52 GMT
Organization: Not Philips.

In refd article, steve@acorn.co.uk (Steve "daffy" Hunt) writes:
>Peter Robinson (pr@cl.cam.ac.uk) wrote, in lines exceeding 80 columns:
>: P.S.  Does anyone know why you still have to have a television licence
>: even when you only take programs off cable?  I thought that there had
>: been a contrary ruling in the case of satellite television.
>
>Not an unreasonable requirement given that Cambridge Cable provide
>BBC1 and BBC2.

This argument has been going on in the courts and at the urban legend level
since the day that ITV launched its first station.

Although the BBC is funded by the revenue from TV licences, the requirement
of having a licence has nothing to do with whether your equipment is capable
of receiving the BBC or not.

The licence is a licence to _operate the equipment_, not to receive one
station or another.
-- 
Ray Dunn at home        |  Beaconsfield, Quebec  |  Phone: (514) 630 3749
ray@philmtl.philips.ca  |  ray@cam.org           |  uunet!sobeco!philmtl!ray
From: igb@fulcrum.co.uk (Ian G Batten)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: CD Technology [Was Re: Record shops (LPs)]
Date: 21 Dec 92 09:29:37 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Fulcrum Communications

In article <1992Dec18.182934.2868@lsl.co.uk> snail@lsl.co.uk writes:
> OK, it seems my earlier post today saying 12 bits is incorrect

12 bits with 32KHz sampling is the technique used for the Long Play mode
on DAT machines.  My DAT doesn't have it, but it's reputed to be The
Very Thing for taping FM radio.  The compansion is done in the digital
domain, so the digital output from the deck is 32KHz 16 bit SPDIF format
--- so outboard DACs don't need to know about the non-linearity.

NICAM does similar tricks, as does the transmission between stdio and
transmitter for FM radio, but although you can coerce an SPDIF out of
the NICAM chipsets the pre-emphasis is different (gnash, wail) so it
would involve a very hacked DAC.  Since there are very few
pre-emphasised CDs, I half considered having my DAC modified to support
a switchable pre-emphasis curve, but I've been assured that the Arcam
Delta 170 is pretty close to the performance limits of the source.

And as long as the BBC continue doing TV broadcast sound assuming people
are listening with telephone bandwidth, all the better decoders do is
demonstrate (a) how awful tie-clip mikes are, and (b) how strange the
bass response is on LS3/5A speakers.

ian
From: william@castle.ed.ac.uk (William Warburton)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Merry Christmas
Date: 22 Dec 92 14:12:41 GMT
Reply-To: W.Warburton@ed.ac.uk
Distribution: uk
Organization: Edinburgh University Computing Service

In article <1992Dec22.123657.20535@infodev.cam.ac.uk>, gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry) writes:
|> 	   ...  How did Scotland manage to end up with two days at both
|> Christmas and New Year?

 The Computing Services at Edinburgh University only get one day at
Christmas, December 28th is not a holiday but January 4th is.

	W.

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From: steve@acorn.co.uk (Steve "daffy" Hunt)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Transport subsidies - Was: Car Parking
Date: 21 Dec 92 13:38:22 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Acorn Computers Limited, Cambridge, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

mathew (mathew@mantis.co.uk) wrote:
: enter into it as far as I can see.  You seemed to think, however, that
: only the person who directly caused the event was responsible, so I
: commented:

: > : If I leave little bottles of nitroglycerine on the road, and some damn fool
: > : goes and knocks one over, the resulting explosion is entirely his fault. 
: > : Therefore he should pay, right?
: > 
: > You appear to be feel that even if the accident is the fault to the
: > cyclist, the car driver should somehow be blamed for having a bigger
: > vehicle.

: He should certainly take some of the blame for doing something
: unnecessarily dangerous.  Or is the mad bomber similarly not to blame?

That is a completely silly analogy.  Explosives in the road are not
the expected norm, but roads *are* expected to contain moving
vehicles; that's what they are *for*.  Therefore anyone who goes
cycling, say, without any lights, should know the risk they are
taking, and fully accept responsibility for their actions.

I can't believe I'm having to point this out, or that you posted your
daft analogy a second time.

It would indeed be quite reasonable to claim innocence if you run over
a landmine.  Here's a comparison: if you fool about with a scalpel,
you've no-one but yourself to blame if you cut yourself.  But if you
pick up a paper bag containing a scalpel and cut yourself, then you
have some justification in partly blaming the person who put it in the
bag.
 
OK, here's a thought for you.  Your perfect world now exists and
everyone cycles or uses public transport.  If a cyclist causes an
accident in which he gets killed by a bus, who would you blame?  Can't
be the bus driver - he wouldn't be driving the bus if it were empty.
So it must be all the passengers' faults!
-- 
				Steve Hunt	steve@acorn.co.uk
From: snail@lsl.co.uk
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Record shops (LPs)
Date: 21 Dec 92 12:32:08 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Laser-Scan Ltd., Cambridge

In article <1992Dec18.091759.1318@wraxall.inmos.co.uk>, des@inmos.co.uk (David Shepherd) writes:
> i used to have a rule of refusing to buy anything with less than 50 mins
> on it ... one of the worst examples i've come across is steve reich's 
> tehillim which has barely 35 minutes on it. 

And people wondered why I complained about All About Eves second album,
only about fifty minutes, when at the time they could've released about 80
minutes of music on the CD (I know, I have the singles and B sides (on vinyl)
to prove it). Interestingly most of their B sides are better than their A sides
- much like the sisters of mercy really.
-- 
snail@lsl.co.uk      

"Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless
 means to side with the powerful, not to be Neutral."
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                                                     Poster by OXFAM.
Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: steve@unipalm.co.uk (Steve Ladlow)
Subject: Network Marketing and NSA water filters
Organization: Unipalm Ltd., 216 Cambridge Science Park, Cambridge CB4 4WA, UK
Distribution: uk
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 08:55:16 GMT

There has been some talk recently, and a little further into
the past, about Network Marketing (Multi-Level Marketing).
I have already given my personal thoughts on this subject
but thought some may be interested in something posted to
alt.busines.multi-level, which I know some of you cannot 
access, which may be of interest re-NSA water filters.

There has been a lot of discussion re-NSA and the following 
may be worth following up by anyone this side of the Atlantic
who is about to sign up.

I have no direct interest in NSA, I wouldn't want to sell 
water filters no matter who made them. I do not like to see
anyone being taken in to sell something that may not be as 
good as the sales pitch suggests. And the majority of talk 
on the Internet is against NSA.

Steve Ladlow
steve@unipalm.co.uk

My opinions are my own and do not represent those of 
my employer.

alt.business.multi-level posting follows:

>Path: unipalm!pipex!uunet!spool.mu.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!hpfcbig.sde.hp.com!fritz
>From: fritz@fc.sde.hp.com (Gary Fritz)
>Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level
>Subject: Re: to all Re: Long distance sponsoring
>Date: 17 Dec 1992 16:25:26 GMT
>Organization: HP SESD, Fort Collins, CO
>Lines: 21
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>NNTP-Posting-Host: hpfcgf.sde.hp.com
>X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

For some interesting information about NSA, I suggest calling 904-332-6017.
This is a lengthy message listing all the criminal charges, injunctions,
cease-and-desist orders, and so forth lodged against NSA.

Actually, the current message (dated Nov. 2 1992) sounds a whole lot better
than the first time I called the number.  It sounds like the many criminal
charges filed against NSA in Canada have been plea-bargained and/or dismissed,
which I don't understand given the preponderance of evidence against NSA.
(E.g. that their filters are NOT bacteriostatic as claimed, that they have
only 1/10th the claimed useful lifespan before bacteria becomes unsafe, etc.)

The fact that NSA has SO many legal actions against them, in dozens of
US states and in Canada, should give one reason to question the honesty
and validity of the company.

Gary


PS:  Grigory, the current message has information about injunctions against
NSA forcing them to offer refunds to "garage-qualified" distributors.
Maybe you can get rid of all those filters in your garage...