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From: lamont@rtsg.mot.com (Bradley Lamont)
Subject: collecting results of IIsi->25MHz upgrade
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:57:47 GMT

I am interested in finding out the general results of the IIsi upgrade to
25 MHz and how it has worked for people out there as well as how
many have actually performed the upgrade.

Please take a couple of seconds to mail me:
result (y/n)
ram size
FPU (y/n)
add on card (nubus/pds) & what card

For a failure, if you have any other info, please let me know.

I will summarize if I get any results.

BTW, I upgraded my IIsi about a month ago and have had no problems at
all :-)

Brad
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: drand@spinner.osf.org (Douglas S. Rand)
Subject: Re: 25 mHz IIsi--another success story
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:08:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.175543.7700@svcdudes.com>, dwade@svcdudes.com writes:
|> In article <1992Nov10.104446.27034@newstand.syr.edu> isr@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Michael S. Schechter - ISR group account) writes:
|> >In article <BxGo1z.2yE@news.cso.uiuc.edu> berger@atropa (Mike Berger) writes:
|> >
|> >>Ok, so warranty isn't a problem.  But Apple CPU's are very rarely repaired
|> >>at the component level.  Won't this modification affect your ability to get
|> >>a swap from an authorized Apple service center in the future?
|> >
|> >Not at all, just unsolder the socket, install the old crystal, clean
|> >up any sign of tampering and bring it in....
|> >
|> 	Including the heat sink...
|> 
|> >Do you really think that the s-f-brains who work at Apple Dealers
|> >would a) examine it carefully, b) notice, or c) recoginze a mod?

Yes.  I've met some of these guys,  and some of them are pretty good.
Unless your an incredible pro with a soldering iron and are very, 
very careful to clean off any rosin,  they will probably be able to tell.
Additionally,  heating a board often creates color changes that are easy
to spot.  These boards are wave soldered in the factories,  basically
floated on a solder pool and removed.

When I was in high school I worked at Radio Shack.  We could usually
tell if someone had opened up a stereo.  Little subtle things in terms
of parts not lined up with indentations made in the factory and such.
If we could tell (and we weren't doing service),  then you can imagine 
that there are equivalent things for a Mac box to look for and people
who do service for a living will notice.

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From: nick+@pitt.edu (Nick C De Mello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Need info on Mac 512
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:13:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Nov18.190511.10332@cis.ohio-state.edu> jgeniec@lilac.cis.ohio-state.edu (Joseph Geniec) writes:
>
>	I have a friend who wants to buy a Mac 512, which I assume is
>one of the first (if not THE first) mac to ever be released. Some things
>I'd like to know:
>
>a) What is the memory expandable to?
>b) Is it the same processor as the Mac plus? (the same speed, too?)
>   Can the motherboard be upgraded? How much will it cost?
>c) Is it system 7 compatible?
>
>						Joe


Joe:

  Not sure what the expandibility is, but I believe it's a 68000
cpu, it can be upgraded to a mac plus, but I don't know if the up
grades are still available.  I think the used to cost about $400.
There's no way you fit system seven into 512K of ram.
  How much is he paying for it? 

                                -- Nick
 
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From: terjer@ifi.unit.no (Terje Rydland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Farewell to the Mac? (not flame)
Date: 18 Nov 92 08:01:25 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: IfI, UNIT-AVH

In article <1992Nov17.193022.44891@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>,
model03@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (John Deke) wrote:
> 
> Recently I have noted that several people in the Apple ][ world are
> anticipating with considerable glee the arrival of the Power Macs because they
> believe that Apple will abandon the Macintosh in the same way that they
> abandoned the Apple ][ and that all of those who purchased Macs will finally
> get what they deserve. Personally, I owned and used an Apple //e for about 8
> years before purchasing my Mac IIsi. I felt none of the betrayal and bitterness
> that so many in the Apple II arena have apparently felt. Indeed, it seemed only
> logical to me for Apple to move to the Mac, althogh I admit the transition
> could have been smoother. Eventually, the Mac will be replaced by the new RISC
> based machines. Some Apple II people I know seem to think this will drive alot
> of Mac users over to PCs because we will feel rejected by Apple. I personally
> look with much anticipation and excitement to the day when I can use a computer
> even better than my Mac. However, I am very interested in knowing what other
> Mac people think. 
> 	Do you think the Mac will be phased out?

The Mac is mainly software. Apple has a very good System w/the best GUI in
the
market. This will not be phased out. We will see improvements though
(QuickDraw GX, 
OCE, Casper, multitasking etcI). 
This will run on faster machines (RISC instead of CISC). 
At some point the CISC (680x0) based machines will not be able to run the
latest
improvements (like Casper f.inst.). This doesn't mean that the old Macs
will
be unusable.
System 7.1 is constructed so that to add functionality you just drop
a new extension on the System folder (like QuickDraw GX etcI)

> 	If so, how? Like the Apple II?

Don't know what they did to the Apple II.
I think that the new machines will be just faster Macs, but maybe with
another name (some people - or firms - will not buy Macs because they have
been
told again and again that the Mac is a toy).
Maybe they will keep the CISC Macs for home-use (low-cost) and primarily
market the
new machines for universities and firms that needs the power of the RISC
chips.


> 	Is this good or not?

Good!


Terje Rydland
Dept. of Informatics, UNIT, Trondheim, Norway
Internet : terjer@ifi.unit.no
AppleLink: NOR0103
Tlf : +47-7-591845
Fax : +47-7-591733
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Is 14" a 13" ???
From: cuy@ssdvax.mdcbbs.com
Date: 20 Nov 92 08:41:50 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: McDonnell Douglas Space Systems Co.-Huntington Bch
Nntp-Posting-User: cuy

In article <1992Nov20.093058.2773@reed.edu>, wrowe@reed.edu (Wayne S. Rowe)
writes:
> 
> Picture Tube - 13-inch viewable diagonal
> 
> What gives? Did I get a 13" when I should've got a 14"?
> 
> <confused>

Wayne,
Since I've been working on getting a Mac myself, I ran into this
explanation for the 13" vs 14" monitor question.  Supposedly, they're
the same monitor - tube wise.  The measure on the 13" monitor was
based on the actual part of the screen that you could get an image
on - this didn't include the black border around the image.  Someone
told Apple, "Hey, everyone else in the TV/monitor industry uses the
whole screen as the basis for measuring.  Why are you guys cheating
yourself out of the extra inch?"  So, Apple has now come out with
the "new" 14" monitor, although it does come with the swivel thing.
Anyway, that's what I heard.  I actually haven't had the chance to
measure myself.  Hope that answers that.
DMC
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: tpang@fraser.sfu.ca (Tsui Ting Debbie Pang)
Subject: Re: Caddyless CD-ROM Drives for the Mac?
Keywords: CD, caddy, CD300i, Photo CD
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 08:47:29 GMT

rseymour@reed.edu (Robert Seymour) writes:
>	It's not to protect the disk, but to ensure higher accuracy in reads.  
>If the disk moves even slightly, bits will register wrong (i.e. the beam won't  
>reflect back directly into the sensor). The reason these aren't as prevalent in  
>audio CD players is that it doesn't matter if you miss a bit on an audio  
>recording, you can't tell the difference (8 bits at 44.1MHz, which is around  

I thought CD audio samples at 44.1kHz with a 16 bit resolution.

>150K/sec, all of which goes into the sound output). 
>	However, in computers, each bit is crutial, hence the caddy. I wouldn't  
>suggest buying a player that doesn't have a caddy, since most people don't  
>change disks very often anyway (it's a pain, but so are bad reads from large  
>files). Also, currently the only player to support multi-session Kodak Photo CD  
>is Apple's CD300i, though more are expected based on the same Sony mechanism.  
>Some other players currently support Photo CD, but won't accept images after  
>the first session.
>--
>Robert Seymour				rseymour@reed.edu
>Departments of Physics and Philosophy
>Artificial Life Project			Reed College
>Reed Solar Energy Project (SolTrain)	Portland, OR

Strike two! :)

David Tse
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: 25MHz IIsi -- Faster CPU?? -- 
From: jan@camhpp12.mdcbbs.com (Jan Vandenbrande)
Date: 19 Nov 92 12:30:01 PDT
Organization: M&E (Division of EDS), Cypress CA
Keywords: faster 68030s?

So far the discussion has concentrated on using a 20MHz 68030
with a higher clock speed.
One of the basic assumptions has been that the CPU is "weakest"
or slowest link on the whole board and most likely to fail
with a higher clock speed.

I am wondering now: Is the 68030 really the slowest/weakest link
If not what is (memory?).

Now what if you go out and bought yourself a faster version of
the 68030 and plugged that in instead of the 20MHz version
(assuming it'll fit etc).
Why wouldn't that work?
Apple seems to plug in whatever version they seem to have lying
in the bin, judging from the difference between the si's so far.
Are faster 68030 that much more expensive? I can't immagine
them being that much.

Jan

-- 
Jan

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jan@lipari.usc.edu		(school, usually works, forwards)
From: nick+@pitt.edu (Nick C De Mello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Mouse
Date: 15 Nov 92 18:37:27 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

>I don't believe apple is switching mice, I believe it depends on the machine
>you buy.  Here's what I've noticed (although I haven't looked for USA or
>Malaysia mice):

  According to MacWeek 11.09.92, Mac is introducing a New (4th?) mouse,
not much info yet...

                                  -- Nick


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Distribution: world
From: Thomas_Zeller@cybermac.uvm.edu
Organization: Adrenaline Online
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 12:27:56 EDT
Subject: Re: Weird IIsi + 7.1

I would suspect that Speedometer needs an upgrade.  "Real World" use of 7.1 on
my IIsi shows no differance in timing.
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From: pierce@radius.com (Pierce T. Wetter III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: radius rocketshare
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:14:19 GMT
Organization: Skylab Team

In article <16NOV199217095330@cc.utah.edu> Upmanu Lall, lallu@cc.utah.edu
writes:
>I bought a Radius 33mhz Rocket in April, when they 1st came out, with
the 
>understanding that they'll release Rocketshare pretty soon, which will
provide 
>multiprocessing and an
>ability to use the rocket with my mac IIfx
>However, I have heard nothing more about this product.
>Was it ever released ?

It's released. 

>If yes, what is it priced at (Univ discounts ?)?

Suggested retail is $499, and includes a copy of
System 7.0.1 (with all manuals etc.).

>How well, does it work (In particular on the IIfx ?)?

Works pretty good, but not as an accelerator. The Rocket works as another
macintosh that you can delegate background tasks to. (Printing,
compiling, etc.)
That is, you have TWO macintohes.

RocketWARE 2.0 will allow you to use your Rocket 33 as an accelerator
(that is,
you have ONE FAST macintosh), its in beta test right now.

Pierce
From: carl.pedersen@dartmouth.edu (L. Carl Pedersen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Sticky Mouse Button, Other ADB (Keyboard) Problems
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:32:53 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Dartmouth College

I have a a IIci purchased new within the last 3 months.  It often acts as
if I was holding the mouse button down when I'm not - especially on the 2nd
of a double click.  Clicking again usually fixes it.  

Bad mouse?  Maybe, but a friend who has a Quadra of about the same vintage
says *his* mouse does the same thing.

Mouse on the machine in the next office (just like mine) seems to stop
working entirely a few times a week.

Also, sometimes when I type very fast, on my extended keyboard, my machine
hangs.  I press interrupt to get into MacsBug and the rest of what I was
typing appears.  I "g" out and eveything is fine after that.  First
observed this when I installed an extended keyboard on my previous machine
- a IIcx, but I *think* I've seen it on this machine, too - or a close
relative.

The mouse itself could be flaky, of course, but the keyboard hang sounds
like something deeper.  I wonder whether there is some problem with the
newer ADB devices/machines etc.  (I know I'm babbling here.)

Haven't tried a lot of swapping to isolate problem yet.  Problems are very
intermittent, so it's hard to see effects of changes.

Are other people seeing stuff like this?  Is there a pattern here?  

Email replies are best.
From: linley@netcom.com (Bruce James Robrert Linley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Labels and the Deskwriter...
Date: 22 Nov 92 18:25:16 GMT
Organization: NetCom- Cheaper than Compu$erve (isnt everything, though?)

Hi, I would like to use my HP Deskwriter to print disk labels but am worried
about the labels jamming in the printer. Does anyone have any good/bad
experiences with printing on labels? Which brands are the best? Thanks in
advance.

-- 
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Comp Sci & Engr, UCLA     |  but it didn't do a bit o' good."
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<linley@seas.ucla.edu>    |
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From: f434@cs.utexas.edu (David)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: DPI on the fly
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:13:59 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Erotica Neurotica
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X-XXDate: Fri, 20 Nov 92 16:06:19 GMT

DPI on the fly

What is the control code for the 1152 x 870 resolution?
How can I go about finding it out?

Thanks,
David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: andrew@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (CHIHUAHUA CHARLIE)
Subject: Clock Speed...  <<<
Originator: usenet@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:49:00 GMT
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Oklahoma - University Computing Services


Hello,
    I have owned a mac SE/30 for the past two years now, and
the older it gets, the slower it seems when compared to the
newer Macs.
    I know in the PC world, if your motherboard is a high-
quality piece of engineering, you can pop in a new crystal
and increase the clock rate of the computer.
    Does any one know of a way to do this for the SE/30. I
have 80ns SIMMS (5MB), so I don't think that will be a problem,
but maybe they will.  I would like to speed it up to 25MHz,
from its current speed of 16MHz.
    Can anyone offer help/advice for me.  Should I even
attempt to do it if a kit is available?  Will it end up doing
more harm than good in the long term?
	Tanks-in-advance.

-Drew
 andrew@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu
 Boomer Sooner!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.system
From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jay Elmore)
Subject: Startup floppies for System 7.1... help!
Summary: 7.1 on a floppy leaves no room for anything else!
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 11:16:50 GMT

In an effort to help eradicate an outbreak of vNir and other viruses on my
campus, I'm trying to create a
startup floppy that I can put Disinfectant 2.9 onto. I'm using System 7.1
because that's what I'm running, and I know System 7 will work on all of
the computers I'm making this for. (some LC IIs, a Classic II, etc.)

However, the "Min system for all Macs" that the installer makes takes up
1350, leaving 40-odd K to put other stuff on. To make matters worse,
Disinfectant is 333K... obviously something has to give.
Does anybody know what I can remove from the System file? Or do I have to
bite the bullet and dig out my old 7.0.1 floppies...

Thanks!

Jay (=
(btw, email responses to johnel@audrey.linfield.edu would be appreciated,
as get to me faster than to the address in the header...)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Distribution: world
From: John_M._Berliner@bmug.org
Organization: BMUG, Inc.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:07:01 PST
Subject: IIsi NuBus adaptor 4 SALE

I still have an Apple IIsi NuBus adaptor with FPU for sale (the guy I had
promised it to decided he didn't need the NuBus slot).

$125 plus shipping (about $5). 
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From: dt1n+@andrew.cmu.edu (David Tsai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Reducing the # of layouts.
Date: 21 Nov 92 22:22:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.If3oBQ200iV1Q6QmYg
Organization: Senior, Social & Decision Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

After doing my first project with 4th Dimension, I noticed that my
databases has more than 40 layouts!!!  Is that normal?

How do you control the consistency for all the layouts?  I find it
difficult to even copy and paste between similar layouts becuase every
field has unique scripts/lists/manditory options which should not be in
other layouts.  The entry order gets messed up, etc...so the gui is a
very nasty thing to deal with.

How do you people deal/reduce the amount problems with GUIs?  Just for
the sake of curiousity, what other problems should I watch out for when
modifying GUIs?

Dave
From: mm5l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Matthew Mashyna)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Informix under A/UX
Date: 23 Nov 92 07:31:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.Yf4FJV_00WA1I4txko
Organization: Psychology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Has anyone run Informix SQL under A/UX 3.0 ? I talked to them a few
weeks ago and they didn't know. It definitly runs under 2.01.

Matt
From: gregb@service.csrv.uidaho.edu (Gregory G. Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: FoxBase+/Mac  Question
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.databases
Date: 23 Nov 1992 13:54:42 -0600
Organization: University of Idaho
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


We have FoxBase+/Mac 2.0 and are converting IBM dBase IV files to it.
I'm looking for a powerful, easy to use query screen for FoxBase
like dBase's QBE screen.   I don't mind typing my queries in xBase 
language but others do.   Does anyone know if there are any FoxBase
add-ins, add-ons, or upgrades that provide a query-by-example screen?
Or do we need to look at another database product to get this special
query screen?

_____________________________
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From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: Labels in Double Helix
Keywords: label helix
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:19:00 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

schultz@iastate.edu (Jonathan R Schultz) writes:

>I'm helping out as friend who is printing labels on a LaserWriter from 
>Double Helix. The labels are two across on the page, but he is only
>printing labels on the first column. How can he set up Double Helix to use
>both columns?

    This has always been my primary problem with DH/HE, the template
editor isn't set up to handle data from multiple records in this kind of
multiple column layout. But there is a way to trick it into doing it.
    What you need to do is isolate the records that you want labels for,
then sequentially number them. Once you do this, and you know the number
of labels that you need per column(eg. 7). Then you can give each of
those records a lookup field where they perform a lookup of the relevant
information in record #(current record number + 7). Then you print out
the information from this record, and the lookued up information side by
side, and you have a multiple column label layout. It's a pain in the
ass, but it does work.

--
-Brian V. Hughes
	"You're built too low! The fast ones go right over your head."
					   --Foghorn Leghorn
From: AM.CGA@forsythe.stanford.edu (GENL ACCTG)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: foxBASE+/MAC ftp sites?
Date: 19 Nov 1992 12:27:09 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

I was wondering if anyone could post anonymous ftp sites  containing
any  public  or  sharware foxBASE+/MAC applications, examples, tips,
etc.

Thanks in advance

Ram Dimba
ramd@forsythe.stanford.edu
1(415) 723-3881