From: boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay))
Subject: Re: Where the pro-ACC stand ends
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 21:13:37 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.160552.16171@ncsu.edu> delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE) writes:
>   There is only one team in the ACC that I would never take a pro-ACC stand
> with. That team is Virginia.

[lots of reasons why he will support other ACC schools deleted...]

> When it comes to Virginia, I have never seen a more obnoxious bunch of idiots
> ever rub in a win so much every year as Virginia. Because the Virginia
                ^^^         ^^^^^^^^^^
                are you _sure_ this isn't what you're upset about?
                the fans on the net sure didn't rub it in much last year... 
> marching band decided to publicly ridicule another school, they got what
> was coming to them. Thomas Jefferson would be embarassed if he were alive.
> I understand that some Virginia fans are sane people with class, but I hate
> to tell you, you need to hold a majority before I take a pro-ACC stand.

You are entitled to your opinion. But, except for the one example of the 
pep band, you do not present any "evidence" of your claims. So, I'll address
only the pep band business.

The pep band makes fun of everyone. It's there job. Most people don't take
them serisouly, since within any given show they also make fun of _UVa_
politicos and policies, political figures, social issues, etc. Some people
can't take a joke, however, and this has gotten them in trouble in the past,
with the most heat coming from a performance during a WVU football game, and
long ago during a MD football game. The jokes have been extrememly tame since
1985, however, when the athletic department decided to censor (not 
coincidently, they aren't as funny, game-in, game-out, as they used to be).
It's seems ironic now, but one of the reasons I always liked NC State a
little more than some of the other schools is that their fans seemed to
be able to take a joke. I guess you're not one of them, or else times
have changed.

Since you do not mention any other specifics, I don't know what fans you
are referring to. I do know that, overall, Virginia fans are tame. Hell,
I think we've only gotten excited enough about a win to take down the goal
posts ONCE. Ever. Virginia fans are pretty quiet during the game (when did
you ever hear someone say: "Boy, I sure do hate to play in Scott Stadium!"),
so much so that Welsh has blasted them periodically over the years. If you
were referring to the net folks, you're wrong. Charlie and I had were very
good natured in our woofing (which we confined to after the game), and the
main Wolfpack poster (can't remember his name now, nice guy) was very friendly.

Anyway, the only ACC fans who have been doing preseason woofing (and getting
made fun of, though _not_ by me, Charlie, Rob, or other UVa posters that I
remember, anyway) have been the NC State fans, anyway? So who do you think
you are going to convince? Geez, we're not out talking about beating FSU,
and after the Kickoff Classic, I'm worried about NC State as well.

Good luck to State, and ALL of the ACC teams. I hope the conference finally
earns some recognitio as a _football_ conference...

Jay Boisseau
UVa Class of 1986
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John R. Boisseau ("Jay")
Department of Astronomy
University of Texas at Austin