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From: sl2k+@andrew.cmu.edu (Schitt Laowattana)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Part[1]: On going R&D projects in Thailand
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:37:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.EeyoTr_00iV449i2MJ
Organization: Doctoral student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


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Excerpts from mail: 6-Nov-92  by utai pitaktong@emx.cc.ut 

>....................Text deleted.........................................
>..................... Perhaps I will have a clearer idea when I learn more
>about some on going research (I mean the specific topics) 
>.........................................................................
>...............Text deleted................................................
> I really want to start from what is needed there. I wish you can, somehow,
> help me on this kind of information.


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        Research Topic                      Institution           Budget
                                                               (Million Baht)
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roject: Artificial Intelligence

1. Development of Elecetronic                KMITT                2.5   
        Dictionary for machine 
   Translation    

2. Text Generation System for                KMITL                2.5
   Machine Translation

3. Development of an Input-                  KU                   2.5
   output System and a Translation
   Support System

4. Development of Integrated                 KMITT                2.5
   System for Machine translation

5. Automatic Recognition of                  KMITL                1.0
   Thai-English Characters

6. The Analysis of Thai Machine              CU                   2.5
   Translation
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Acronyms:

KMITT: King Mongkut's Institute of Technology Thonburi(Bangmod)
KMITL: King Mongkut's Institute of Technology Ladkrabang
KU   : Kasetrsat University
CU   : Chulalongkorn University







Schitt(DJ)  Laowattana

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Permanent Address in Thailand:

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From: gm52321@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu ()
Subject: Thai language class at UIUC
Summary: Nong Ta need help
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:22:12 GMT

Sawasdee ka P' P' tuk kohn..

I emailed Thai graduate students at the University of Illinois, asking
if anyone would be willing to be trained and teach a section of Thai
language in the Fall of 1993.

I have spoken with Professor Frederic K. Lehman, and he will support me
if I can get the petition and enough students who want to take the course.

However, we need a Thai graduate student, a native speaker, who can teach
the course, as Prof. Lehman is English and he needs a teaching assistant.

Several of the undergrads are also interested in this, particularly myself
and B (Asanee Isarowong).  We want to learn our native language, and that is
only one reason.

If we can get this course, it will help Thai undergrads "ruam" and also
get together, to become closer with each other and the grads also.
Please discuss this with other Thai grads, and see if you know of anyone who
may be willing to teach this class.  I realize it is a lot of work, but
it will benefit Thai students here at the U of I and perhaps make it
possible to understand the language so that we might go back and work in
Thailand in the future.

Thanks for your support.

Gaitsiri Mongkolsmai
Sophomore in Commerce
University of Illinois
Urbana, IL  61801
email gm52321@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: kamol@ipied.tu.ac.th (Kamol Hengkietisak)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Post Nov 11: Chuan ambivalent about governor election
Date: 10 Nov 92 07:14:33 GMT
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PRIME Minister Chuan Leekpai confirmed yesterday that his 
Government would not mind having provincial governors elected 
instead of appointed and a committee under the Interior Ministry 
is studying the issue.
 
The results of the study will be taken into consideration, Mr 
Chuan said.
 
The Prime Minister also said that individual politicians may 
express different viewpoints on the issue which means the 
Government will soon have to adopt a certain policy.
 
However, the Premier declined u  comment on the Palang Dharma 
Party's plan to propose the election of provincial governors to 
Parliament.
 
Mr Chuan also declined to comment on whether such a move by a 
member of the coalition would break political etiquette.
 
Deputy House Speaker Thawil Praison said the PDP bill seeking the 
election of provincial governors would need approval by the 
Premier or the Cabinet before it could be submitted to Parliament.
 
Mr Thawil, also a PDP MP, said the bill concerns tax collection 
and expenditure -- a financial matter which has to be endorsed by 
the Premier before it can be considered by Parliament.
 
This makes it impossible for PDP to push for the legislation 
without endorsement from the Premier or the Cabinet, he said.
 
The PDP on Sunday decided to submit its bill to the Coalition 
Coordinating Committee.
 
Mr Thawil said he has been assigned to draft the bill which is 
expected to be completed on Friday.
 
The bill will specify criteria for the "readiness" of provinces 
where governors are to be elected.
 
If any province meets the criteria, then a royal decree will be 
issued to streamline the election of the governor, he said.
 
He said, the Government, meanwhile, should have a committee study 
the criteria, regarding tax and budget affairs of the respective 
provinces.
From: ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Thailand won't ban trade with Khmer Rouge
Keywords: Thai politics
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:27:00 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

After a meet with the Khmer PM, Hun Sen, Chuan told the reporters that
his government will not stop trading with the Khmer Rouge as requested
by Hun Sen. Hun Sen wants Thai support for banning trade with the rival
Khmer Rouge so that it would submit to the UN peace plan. Thai government's
attitude is well expected since the Khmer Rouge has gained control over 
the border. Like with Burma, Thai traders benefit from dealing with whoever
has control over the border since they control over some natural resources
mostly needed by these Thai traders. Timber is among these valuable goods.



Read more detail in:

Newsgroups: clari.news.gov.international,clari.news.issues.conflict
Subject: Thailand won't ban trade with Khmer Rouge
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 4:41:51 PST
Lines: 37
From: ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)
Subject: New arrests in Thai flesh trade scandal 
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 03:01:46 GMT
Keywords: Thailand

See details in....

From: clarinews@clarinet.com (UPI)
Newsgroups: clari.news.gov.international,clari.news.sex,clari.news.group.women
Subject: New arrests in Thai flesh trade scandal
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:10:42 GMT


Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)
Subject: Re: My opinion about Khun Chuan.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:28:07 GMT

bunt0003@student.tc.umn.edu () writes:

>......... most of stuffs deleted

>Do you think the idea of ownership employee can be an alternative?

>Thian

Forgive my ignorance but what is the "ownership employee" ?

Samart
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Three years parliament?
From: thanon@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Thanachart Numnonda)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:01:21 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.

Khun Trin mentioned that the parliament are seeking public opinion
about the constitution amendment. How's about the term of the parliament.
Has anyone discussed on that issue? Thai constitution always specify
the parliament term as four years. But none of the elected parliament
has ever worked for four years. The longest one is probably the one 
between 2523-2526, (3 years and 11 months) before Gen. Prem dissolved it.

Why don't we shorten its term? I realiaze that this might be a funny
opinion, but New Zealand has election every three years. My reason
is Thai people get bore very easy. They always want to try a new thing.
If they wait for too long, they will again looking for the knight on
a white horse. Thais need more election, and three years term probably
a good approach. I think three years is enough for the coalition government,
to do lot of things.

However, I don't think that the parliament will agree with this issue.

Thanachart Numnonda

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From: mhmann@nyx.cs.du.edu (Me Mann)
Subject: Re: Cross/Reposting Clarinet News 
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	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 01:21:39 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.144313.4218@lut.ac.uk> (Thomas Mc Neill) writes:
>In article <1992Nov7.185138.14096@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>,
>jdcarmack@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu wrote:
>> 
>> We don't get clari.news.* here.  Perhaps, if enough people are interested,
>> then those that do receive it can repost appropriate articles here in s.c.t.
>> 
>> Anyone else interested?
>> 
>
>Yes, Most Definitely
>


The following is what Clarinet have to say  and that's the reason
why you don't see clari.* articles crossed posted.

At the bottome of one of the clarinet introduction article:



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information that helps us stop violators of this copyright.  Send reports 
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-Mann
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From: fstawit@icomp01.lerc.nasa.gov (Tawit Chitsomboon)
Subject: Re: My opinion about Khun Chuan.
Organization: Institute for Computational Mechanics in Propulsion-NASA LeRC
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:55:21 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.171448.10425@news2.cis.umn.edu> 
bunt0003@student.tc.umn.edu () writes:
>................
>I'm also sad to see many pieces of land fall into the hands of greedy
>foreign investors.  They are not necessarily used productively either. 
>Some of them have been used to build  retirement houses for foreigners. 
>This fact makes me think of a song "Lung kii mao" in which an old poor man
>has to die under the sky way.

>Thian

Thanks for agreeing with me. It's about time i disagree with you :-)

I don't mind anybody (especially Japanese :) build retirement community
in Thailand. Thais should look at this as an honor -- Out of all the
beautiful countries of this world, they pick Thailand. One of the reasons
they pick Thailand is I think due to the similarity of the two cultures.
A friend of mine who spent 7 years doing her Ph.D. in Japan told me that
she needed very little adjustment integrating herself with the Japanese
culture. She said they behave very similar to the Thai people.

Looking from economic viewpoint, these rich Japanese would pump a lot
of money into the local community while consuming very little land area.
Their children would probably visit them regulary, adding more to our
economy. Poor Thai people can earn extra money servicing these people.

Many of these elderly must be former CEO , professors, etc. They must
feel useless being idle. If we're smart we can find ways to learn things
from them as well.

I don't feel threaten by these people at all. Time will heal; at most
within 20 years they all die off anyway :-) They are too old to reproduce
and thus cannot threaten our ethnic majority. If we can make them to love
Thailand perhaps they will want to be reborn as Thai in their future lives
and help Thailand be economic superpower, with the past-life know how:-)

Seriously, could you or someone else tell me what is bad about older
Japanese retiring in Thailand? I notice in one of Carabau's song also
about this anti-Japanese retirement community.

-Tawit
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Subject: Re: family still mourning...
From: jdcarmack@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:59:09 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <08NOV92.01195702.0235.MUSIC@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA>, B7IW@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA ("Wittaya La-orchan") writes:
> ........
>>> I'm afraid the blame must rest with those who ordered the shootings, rather
...[stuff deleted]
>
> I agree with Khun Laurence in this subject that the blame must rest on whose
> who ordered the shooting. I have read 'Decades' the magazine that inclusively
> report the May crisis event, and I found that something illogical to me.
> The report mentioned that the soldiers were very proud to kill or brutally
> hurt the unarmed protestors. This is not a natural act.
> 
[stuff deleted]
> 
> I believe that these soldiers were misleaded by their superior through a
> simple brainwash program. Imagine that these soldiers lived 500 km. from
> Bangkok. The information that they've got is just from the gov. controlled
> TV. or radio. What they saw is just a bunch of people try to destroy the
> properties of the country. In addition, the term "communist", our no.1 enemy
> brainwashingly known to us by the american during the vietnam war,
> was used to describe the protestors. This is enough for these soldiers to
> hate and of course pround to kill the protestors for the country.
> I bet that when these poor soldiers knew what they've done they must live with
> their guilt for the rest of their lifes.
> 

Indeed, that may well be the case, and something I had not considered.  In
fact, the more I think about it, the more it would make sense.

> Those senior officers should be the ones that must be punished.
> And what the country need is "quality" free press and a larger scale of
> communication.
> 
A free press is something that us Americans take for granted many times over,
and it is the largest freedom that we enjoy.  I do not believe that any 
society can stand for long without some type of guarantee that their govern-
ment is not lying to them.  That is the stuff that leads to rebellion, 
civil unrest, riots, demonstrations, or even outright civil war.  It is 
probably one of the largest factors in every coup attempt that Thailand has
ever had.  After all, if everyone trusted the government, why have a coup?

> Wittaya.


John Carmack
Miami University
Oxford, Ohio

Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: emaruchi@meena.cc.uregina.ca
Subject: Gun powder vs baby powder
Date: 7 NOV 92 14:56:33 GMT
Organization: University of Regina, Regina, Sask., Canada

	bunt003 was confused why Ajarn Sulak, who had never kiled any body,
has to be sentenced while those who had kill hundreds during the black May
are still playing golf and probably never be punished.  The answer is simple,
because they have gun powder, not Johnson & Johnson baby powder.  Gun powder
is power.  Power makes men right no matter how wrong they are.  This is true
since the beginning of human.  Baby powder makes babies comfortable, and stop
crying.
	Those scientists and engineers who contribute directly or indirectly
in developing weapons should be blamed.

		Bunlur
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: emaruchi@meena.cc.uregina.ca
Subject: RE: About the tribunal ruling
Date: 10 NOV 92 21:22:33 GMT
Organization: University of Regina, Regina, Sask., Canada

        I do agree with you 1000000000%, Thian.  The problem is how can we do.
                Bunlur
From: kxc@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (Khuanchai Chooboonraj)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Being compromise ..& Ajarn Suluk?
Date: 8 Nov 1992 11:41:55 +1100
Organization: University of Melbourne
NNTP-Posting-Host: ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au

thanon@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Thanachart Numnonda) writes:

>While we are discussing about the amnesty decree, many request for being
>Compromise. One of the reason is they afarid of further violent.
>That's fair enough in case that no lose of life. I don't want to see
>further crackdown as well. But it's unfair for the relatives of those
>who pass away. What I learned from recent news is

Life in Thailand hasn't much value as it has in Western countries. Many of
those ppl who died didn't believe that they would be shot at for numbers
of reason. Many of them just went there to have a look but got caught in the
middle. As I said before that there were a lot of things happened behind the
scence that made me quite certain long ago that the _real_ quilty party won't
be revealed/punished. Most of ppl just concentrate at Gen Suchinda and his
collegues because they had power/guns. I strongly disagree that they should
be fully responsibly for the May killing. The more _average_ ppl want to dig
into this matter, the worst situation could happen to the current government.

>   - Suchinda still playing golf every day.

Is he playing alone or playing with Gen Chavalit?

>   - Mr.Nitthi Nakorntap will form a new political party for ACM Kaset,
>     and polticians from former Samakkitham party might join this party.

Let Thais decide whether they can trust ACM and his perty or not.

>Yes, let's us compromise, and wait and see another crackdown.

>What's about Ajarn Suluk? Did he kill anyone? Why there's no mercy from
>him? No compromise??

>I've learned from a friend of him that Ajarn Suluk is now in
>Japan. He has a tough time overthere, and the source said Ajarn Suluk would
>like to go home. However, it is unlikely for him to win the case and
>probably he might face the sentence.

>Yes, let's compromise and forgive murderers, but should be no mercy for
>a very good person like Ajarn Suluk.

Hasn't he any friend in Thailand? In Thailand most of the time, it's up to
who you know not what you know as well as what you did. I know one man who
couldn't return to Thailand all his life because what he did to his own
country. He was a communist, a murderer etc. What did Ajarn Suluk do anyway?

>What's a funny country?

Do you really feel that way? I reckon Thailand is a very smart country that
only those who not stupid can survive.

cheers,
kc
From: wila@seashell.seas.ucla.edu (Wilasinee Chunbomrung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Thai cookbook.
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:45:55 GMT
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles

In article <1cpnkfINNprl@bigboote.WPI.EDU> tai@wpi.WPI.EDU (Lisa Taikitsadaporn) writes:
>In article <BwvBAA.5Ks@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong) writes:
>>oekelly@riemann.rice.edu (Owen Ernest Kelly) writes:
>>
>>>I would appreciate any recommendations for
>>>a good Thai cookbook in English.
>>
>>I like the one prepared by Malulee Pinsuvana, COOKING THAI FOOD IN AMERICAN
>>KITCHEN, Part II, Bangkok: Thai Watana Panich, Co. 1987. The book has
>
>	I have both the part I and part II of her cook books and I actually 
>prefer part I.  I have never seen these two books sold in book stores in the
>US (I had bought mine from Bangkok).  However, I have seen a couple of Thai

I, too, prefer part I.  Part I contains recipes for the more common Thai
dishes, and many of my favorites like Pad Thai, Haw Mok, Thai Pumkin custard,
etc.  Part II has many dishes that are popular in other countries like
Malaysia, Philippines, but I didn't really find them that much useful if
you were looking for Thai dishes, IMO.  I saw several copies of Part II
book at the Siam Book Center in Hollywood a few months ago, but I couldn't
find Part I.  :-(  I do recommend the book to any Thai food lovers because
the recipes are so simple to follow and the ingredients are illustrated
at the beginning of the book.  Hope you find it!

-Wila
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: rreed@mtwire.es.com (Rob Reed)
Subject: Charity organizations in Thailand
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:39:30 GMT

November 6, 1992

Arun Sawat,

Could anyone please provide a list of charity organizations in Thailand benefiting
children?  I've heard of individuals "sponsoring" kids in Thailand.  I want to know
how to do that.

What organizations exist to help?  How well do they work?  What are
your experiences?  (Please don't be bashful.)

I'd also like to know if anyone has knowledge of a place called:

Ban Dung Community Center
Box 4
Amphaur Ban Dung
UDORN THANI
Thailand 41190

I've heard that some kind of volunteer work goes on there.  I don't know if that's the
correct address.  I wrote once and no response.  Does anyone know the phone number?
Anyone heard of them?

Thanks

Rob Reed
From: cooneys@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: US Presidential Election: An Experience of the Six Years Old Girl.
Date: 5 Nov 92 06:24:41 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <panu.720889546@sol>, panu@sol.acs.unt.edu (Sittiwong Panu) writes:
> 
> I have been living in the US through 3 Presidential Election.  As a non-
> citizen resident I never have any chance to participate in the process. 

I thought Khun Panu's story was delightful and touching. I 
too, though many multiples of six years old, just voted in 
my first US presidential election (I've only recently got 
around to becoming a US citizen, though I've been living 
here for decades!). It's truly impressive to see people 
willing to stand in line for hours and hours to vote, and 
often taking care to split their tickets according to their 
views.

Democracy is a messy, untidy, and partly corrupts system 
(since humans are always apt to be a little corrupts, if not 
more than a little). We could all go on at length about its 
imperfections. But where is there anything better?

Above all, you get a chance to throw the bums out in another 
two or four years! 

               -- Seamus Cooney, Department of English, 
		  Western Michigan University, Kalamazoo, MI 49008
		  e-mail: COONEYS@wmich.edu

	         "Davon mann nicht sprechen kann, darueber muss er schweigen."
					-- Wittgenstein
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