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From: lrj@cs.cornell.edu (Lew Jansen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Why won't the d*mn windows stay put?
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:41:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Aug31.154101.10738
Distribution: na
Organization: Lab of Atomic and Solid State Physics, Cornell University


	  This is probably a dumb question, but it's been nagging me a
	bit and I'd love to find an answer.  I haven't been able to
	discover anything in any of the help files.

	  If a window (such as an OS/2 window) is minimized to the
	desktop, when it is re-opened it goes to the upper-left corner
	instead of reappearing where it was.  This is annoying to say
	the least.  How to I force it to come back to the spot it was
	minimized from?  This is especially annoying if I want to
	quickly get some on-line help about something; I've got to
	move the d*mn 4os2 window back to where it was
	
	  Also, is there any way to specify where on the desktop
	minimized icons should go?

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From: grimlok@hubcap.clemson.edu (Mike Percy)
Subject: Re: OS/2 through 1999
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:50:52 GMT

eletanjm@nuscc.nus.sg (TAN JIN MENG) writes:

>: Way to go IBM and OS/2!  Free PR!!!!!!  Times are they a changing!

>I doubt its free. Companies pay for this kind of thing. It's called
>*subliminal* advertising.
 
It's called product placement, and it's seldom subliminal (meaning that
your conscious brain is unaware of it).  Watch any TV show or movie, and
you'll see products strategically placed to be in the foreground of many
shots -- watch Doogie Howser get a drink out of his fridge, if he holds
the can that way for anything but to highlight the brand, well...

It's glaringly obvious when it happens, if you have any idea that it
might be happening.  A great scene from the Wayne's World movie made fun
of product placement while at the same time advertising the very
products sponsering the movie.

OB OS/2:  I saw the new ad (heart of your business), and didn't care for
it all that much.  I also saw OS/2 in use on some TV show - can't
remember when, but I remember pointing it out to my wife.

Mike Percy             | grimlok@hubcap.clemson.edu  | I don't know about
Sr. Systems Analyst    | mspercy@clemson.clemson.edu | your brain, but mine
Info. Sys. Development | mspercy@clemson.BITNET      | is really...bossy.
Clemson University     | (803) 656-3780              | (Laurie Anderson)
From: june@f308.n133.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Ed June)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: GNU stuff on any BBS?
Date: 28 Aug 92 01:13:52 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:133/308 - Information Overloa, Riverdale GA

On <Aug 26 13:54>, Brian Button of 1:133/411 wrote to All:

 BB> From: bab@se39.wg2.waii.com (Brian Button)
 BB> Date: 21 Aug 92 11:41:07 GMT
 BB> Organization: Western Geophysical Exploration Products
 BB> Message-ID: <BAB.92Aug21074107@se39.wg2.waii.com>
 BB> Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc


 BB> Are the GNU utilities, like gcc, emacs, texinfo, etc, on any BBS's?
 BB> I'd, of course, like to find high-speed boards, but at this point,
 BB> about any board will do :)

Available here for file request or for download for first time callers.
I even have the Linux stuff for the taking...


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Help, I deleted the command shells folder
From: thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 22:21:52 GMT
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.

>In article <1992Aug29.054820.5420@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>> In article <Btpy4B.Gy1@world.std.com> azog@world.std.com (Azog Thoth) writes:
>> >I accidently deleted the folder that has the OS/2, DOS, and WINOS/2
>> >shells in them, and now Im feeling pretty fucked. Of course, since I
>> 
>> Perhaps you could drag a template for PROGRAMs, and tell them to point to
>> WINOS2.COM, CMD.EXE, COMMAND.COM, etc.  And make a Command Prompts folder
>> to put them in.

You could do that, but I think it's wrong.

Create a new Program object. Select what type of session you want it
to be. Enter * in the program field.

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. (I deleted my Command
Prompts folders too - finger trouble. :-)
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From: gkendall@ncr-mpd.FtCollins.NCR.COM (Guy Kendall)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: PMCOMM!!!
Date: 1 Sep 92 14:26:28 GMT
Reply-To: gkendall@ncr-mpd.FtCollins.NCR.COM (Guy Kendall)
Organization: NCR Microelectronic Products Division

In article <1992Aug28.221308.3352@ludd.luth.se> bjorn@ludd.luth.se (Bjorn Fahller) writes:
>
>So write (call, fax) to DataStorm and ask them to write it. I did. While
>they didn't seem overly enthusiastic, they didn't turn it down either (like
>some companies seem to do). Let them know they can make money on such
>a product, and I'm sure they'll create one.


If you know the address, phone, and fax of DataStorm, please post it here
so each and every Usenetter can kindly express our interest in an OS/2
version of Procomm +.



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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: DOS VDM can't see new file in A:
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:39:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.051615.2285@nuscc.nus.sg> swknasri@nuscc.nus.sg (Sriram N (Dr)) writes:
>I boot a DOS 5.0 image from C: to access a LAN.  Since I cant
>write to C: in the VDM (fsfilter messes the client programs, so I
>dont use it), I use the a: drive to transfer data from the HPFS
>drive (from other DOS or OS/2 windows) to the LAN.  C is FAT and
>D is HPFS.
>Curiously, the VDM can't see the new file and the dir statistics
>are not correct.  If I exitd the VDM and restart it, it seems to
>be ok.  

Stupid question, maybe: are you using FSACCESS to get at Drive A from
the DOS 5.0 image you started?

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: brown-sh@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (shawn c brown)
Subject: OS2 and Soundblaster
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 11:48:49 GMT

	I'm thinking about upgrading my machine to OS2.  Is it just some
games that have trouble with Soundblaster (in OS2 mode) or do they all not
work???

Shawn Brown
From: ameline@vnet.ibm.com (Ian Ameline)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 21:23:44 EDT
Subject: Goddam the Goddam IBM C Set/2 Install!!!!!!!!!
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: C-Set/2 Development, IBM Canada Lab.
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM

In article <l9gnzvm.feustel@netcom.com>,
feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel) writes:
>
>This is a horror story. Type n now if you don't like horror stories
>
>Installed IBMC, the toolkit and workframe 2 on disk c: without incident
>immediately after installing os2. Unfortunately for me, I didn't
>install the migration libraries. Everything that I describe below has
>happened as a result of my trying to install the migration libraries.
>
>1. The C Set/2 install process reported that it was unable to write to
>the write-protected a: disk. Later it reported it couldn't find
>sectors or the (original, once-used) IBM disks.
>
>2. I rebooted dos and diskcopied all 14 toolkit diskettes
>
>3. I reinstalled the toolkit on disk d:; it deleted all my shadow help
>folders. I then tried to delete the new toolkit folder but could not
>because of a system problem. I tried putting the toolkit into a new
>folder and deleting that; no dice.
>
>4.  I tried to install to the d: disk the migration libraries only (no c
>compiler,debugger, documentation, etc). At the end of the install none
>of the migration libraries had been copied.
>
>5. I then tried a complete install to the d: disk. Everything seemed
>to be going okay until I started getting error messages saying that backup
>files on the *c:* disk would be overwritten. I terminated the install.
>
>6. I then deleted the entire ibmc directory on disk c: and reinstalled the
>*entire* Cset 2 fileset to the C disk. At the end of the install
>process I have 4 empty subdirectories and the sample04 source files copied
>over - nothing else.
>
>This install program clearly came from HELL via Boca Raton.
>--
>Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>
>
>( New .sig under construction. Watch this space! )
>

    Something very weird is going on -- It's not supposed to do that.
If you send me your phone number in a note, I'll have the guy who wrote
the install program give you a call and try to straighten things out.

Regards,
Ian.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: weinkam@fraser.sfu.ca (James Lawrence Weinkam)
Subject: Re: Number 11 !!!
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 00:32:29 GMT

rom@cci632.cci.com (Rudynell S. Millian) writes:


>	I am surprised nobody has mentioned that OS/2 ranks #11 on 
>PC Magazine's list of top selling software. 

>	How far up on the list do you think OS/2 will climb? My guess is
>it will jump to #8 by year's end.

PC MAG top 15 selling software list is based on retail sales.  Sales
to customers direct from a manufacturer (IBM) are not counted.  A
piece of software (OS/2) that is selling mainly direct will have only
a fraction of its sales counted by PC MAG.

Now OS/2 is starting to be available in stores, and thus sales by
retailers will start increasing.  I could very well be that by
end of year the sales will have increased to #8 on the PC MAG list.

Is there anyway for PC MAG to count all sales rather than just sales 
at retail locations.

Info about PC MAG sales list from small print at bottom of list.

James
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Difference between DOS upgrade and full version
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 09:54:00 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1992Aug31.011021.15753@r-node.gts.org> singh@r-node.gts.org (Rajendra Singh) writes:
> Can someone please tell me what the difference is between the DOS upgrade
> and full version of OS/2 2.0?  I would like to know the difference because I
> will be purchasing it soon, and the DOS upgrade is cheaper.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> -- 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Raj (singh@r-node.gts.org)  If you wish to reply by E-Mail and your response
> is greater than 100 lines (of text), then please send your response to:
>                     tcomsing@chasm.scar.utoronto.ca

The DOS upgrade will look for DOS on the hard disk. If it doesn't find it, the
install stops.
 
With the full version, it doesn't worry about whether DOS is there or not. 
 
With the DOS upgrade, it gets a bit silly. If you want to re-partition
your disk for OS/2, you have to do it first with DOS FDISK and re-install
DOS.....then install OS/2 over the top.......
 
The first time I tried this, the install "TRAPped", so I just restarted it
and it went just fine.......
 
I have installed it on many machines since and not had that problem recurr.
 
Steve

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From: pprior@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul A Prior)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Changing the damn icons (and a lockup question!)
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:44:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: magnus.1992Sep1.184400.1899
Organization: The Ohio State University

I downloaded a file containing 1700 icons and unzipped them all into
one directory using pkzip in a dos window.  At first it really zipped
along, but by the time it got 1/2 way done it was crawling (these
were 800 byte icons and should spit out fast!).  Any clue why?  System
is a 486-33 w/16MB ram and SCSI drive.

Also, HOW DO I CHANGE THE ICON FOR A SELECTION!!!???  Such a stupid
question, I know, but I have all these icons and cant get it to change
them.

Also - is there a way to "migrate" or install a new program without
going through the migrate icon.  Doing so makes me scan the entire
disk (400MB) for programs when I already know the directory I want.

Thanks,

Paul "OS/2 user for 3 days and loving it thus far" Prior
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From: Arylnn.Poczynek@ttlg.UUCP (Arylnn Poczynek)
Sender: postmaster@ttlg.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Query: Ide Drive (Pl
Date: 31 Aug 92  11:19:04 mst

 LJ>    I'm afraid that plain economics will dictate that I opt for
 LJ>  IDE.  In light of this, I'm considering the Quantum LPS120A.
 LJ>  Any opinions?  How well do they deal with other drives if I
 LJ>  decide to add another IDE at a later date?

     The Quantum is a fantastic choice.  It's a little more
expensive than the rest of the 120/130 Meg drives, but the
performance is unbeatable.  It connects with most other drives (the
Conner is well-noted for being just a little different) with no
problems at all.  It's extremely reliable.  It's my personal and
business choice.
     
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From: lio@ornl.gov (MILLION D L)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Windows icons in OS/2 ???
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:39:16 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory

This has probably been discussed already at some point, but how do I go
about using Windows-format icons in OS/2?  Specifically, I am trying to
set up Managing Your Money under OS/2 2.0.  MYM is a DOS application, but
it comes with a Windows icon file, MYM8.ICO, for running MYM under Windows.
However, OS/2 does not seem to like the format of files like this.  When
I tell it to use this file as an icon, all I get is a blank.  Also, the
icon editor refuses to work with such files.  Is there a known way to 
"import" Windows icons like this into OS/2?  Thanks for any advice.

Dan Million                          Internet:  milliondl@ornl.gov
From: lruppert@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Medvezhonok)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Orchid Prodesigner IIs 1024x768 drivers
Date: 3 Sep 92 03:35:13 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY


Has anyone else had a problem with running  320x200x256 and higher modes in
a window with these drivers?  I was able to run these programs with the 
standard VGA drivers with no problems at all.  I was hoping to see similar 
performance with 640x480, but ended up losing the abilities I had in the first 
place.  
Also, has anyone had any problems with the palette not looking right on 256
color programs they run?  I ran PMGif, the gif displayer, and about half of
the colors in the GIF images I viewed were obviously wrong.  I got the same 
performance with a bitmap image I made in 256 colors from a WinOS2 program.
Does anyone know why this is?  Windows 3.0 & 3.1 and X11 both have no problems
releasing the palette to the applications, is this a bug?
Thirdly, the 16 color drivers were indistinguishable from the 256 color drivers
.  The performance was just as slow, and there were 256 colors still. (I 
followed the instructions with the drivers to the letter.)

Thanks,
Louis Ruppert
lruppert@mailbox.syr.edu

On an unrelated note, anyone know if sound drivers are in the works?...

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From: si0_tb90020@debet.nhh.no
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Some suggestions for OS/2
Date: 3 Sep 92 01:38:28 MET
Organization: Norwegian School of Economics

In article <BtyDtC.3q1@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, btf57346@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Byron "Bohr" Faber) writes:
> Ahh.  Shot, with all the ideas you guys seem to have you should just
> be able to write a new OS.
> 
> Or you could just buy NT.
> 
> (Sorry, I just HAD to do it).
> 
> Byron Faber
> 
> Os/2 user.
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Why would we do that? According to Mircrosoft NT will run some DOS
software, and most Windows software (Which probably almost nothing on
DOS and even worse on Windows).

Terje
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Does Windows 3.1 break executables?
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:43:45 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Aug31.144511.15531@uwm.edu> tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mike Kretzer) writes:
>
>Does Windows 3.1 somehow modify Windows 3.0 executables so they won't
>run under OS/2?  I've been using several Windows programs in OS/2
>for quite some time with no problems whatsoever until I mistakenly
>installed Windows 3.1 on a FAT partition.  When I booted DOS
>and ran Windows 3.1, everything ran perfectly, but then when I went
>back to OS/2 2.0, I couldn't run any of the Windows programs that
>I had tried under Windows 3.1.  Does Windows 3.1 modify executables
>so they won't run under OS/2?!?!  My only 'solution' to this problem
>was to reinstall all my Windows programs again under OS/2.  Is there
>anything else I could possibly do?

Which Windows apps do you mean?  The Windows applets (like notepad,
clock, solitare, etc) all get replaced by Windows 3.1 applets when you
install Windows 3.1.  The 3.1 applets are not compatible with WIN-OS2
(or Windows 3.0).
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: hafting@Lise.Unit.NO (Helge Hafting)
Subject: Re: Warning! The file SWAPPER.DAT is full!
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 10:53:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.153650.13382@PA.dec.com>, reisert@sttng.mlo.dec.com (Jim Reisert) writes:
 > 
 > 
 > I have the latest kernal patch, etc.  I notice that once I reach my
 > swap limit (i.e. I still have 1.9M disk space left, but my SWAPPATH
 > line says issue a warning it if it goes under 2M), I can *never* get
 > any free space back, even by closing all open applications.  Has
 > anyone else noticed this?
 > 
 > - Jim
 > 
I tried to run a program that eats memory until os/2 runs out of it.
I found that the swapfile shrinks after stopping the program, but
it don't happen immediately.  The machine may be idle for a while,
or I can do something else, 
( wich don't require much disk space, of course), and suddenly
os/2 decides to reduce the swapfile.  
The swapfile is never reduced to its minimum of 2MB even if I close
everything, it insists on at least 3.5MB.

Either something strange is going on, or perhaps IBM is
making bad patches now so that 2.1 will look as a big improvement?
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From: futeh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Futeh Kao)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: emxgpp
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:25:54 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

I just downloaded emxgpp.zip.  Well, I tried to compile the test\hello.cc
file.  And, it just did not like the cout statement.
It gave the following messages:
undefined symbol _cout referenced from text segment
undefined symbol __ls_FRistreamPCc referenced from text segment

	I'm using the emx 0.8-d release without the gcc222 patch.
Does anyone have any ideas?
Please post reply or send it to futeh@crocodile.cm.utexas.edu
From: cummins@a.cs.okstate.edu (CUMMINS JOHN WILLI)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re:  OddeSsy2:  the installation from Hell
Date: 3 Sep 92 00:49:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: a.1992Sep3.004923.25723
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater

I had no problem munging my *. sf files in the root directory of my FAT disk
after booting dos 5.0  

I unsystemed / unhid them before defragging the disk.  I used Norton to
defrag... but dos to change 'em into "normal" files.

Here's a batch file I used....

-----------------

@echo off
rem List the hidden and system files in case you want to re-hide 'em!
dir /as /s > system.dir
dir /ah /s > hidden.dir
rem Unhide EVERYTHING  (leave off the /s to just hit the directory you're in
attrib -h -s /s
\nu\sd
rem reset attributes on files I care to reset them on....
attrib +h +s \IO.SYS
attrib +h +s \MSDOS.SYS
attrib +h +s \*.?SF
attrib +h +s \OS2???*.
attrib +h \os2\system\boot.os2
attrib +h \sd.ini
echo Was System.... > temp1
type system.dir     >> temp1
cls
call more temp1
pause
echo Are System...  > temp1
dir /as /s          >> temp1
cls
call more temp1
pause
echo Was Hidden...  > temp1
type hidden.dir     >> temp1
cls
call more temp1
pause
echo Are Hidden...  > temp1
dir /ah /s          >> temp1
cls
call more temp1
del temp1

-------------------------------------------------

So.... it's not elegant.  But it WORKS FOR ME!!!!

jc
From: rm3@ornl.gov (MCBROOM R C)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Template problem
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:31:06 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory

In article <1992Aug21.004153.7098@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>In article <t2#n_4a.bob@netcom.com> bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:
>>I have a problem.  Somehow, and I have no idea how, I find myself
>>with multiple Printer, Font Palette, Program, and Scheme Palette
>>templates.  I'd like to get rid of the extra ones, but I don't
>>know how to do it.  
>>
>>Can anybody help?
>
>Couldn't you just drag them to the Shredder?
>
No.  The Shredder won't chew templates.  You can do it manually in an
os/2 window or full screen session.  Opend the session cd to the
templates directory and dir.  Then del the extra entries.


Robert McBroom internet: rm3@ornl.gov