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From: bgm@cray.com (Bert Moshier)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Why OS/2 **WILL** fail
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:18:56 GMT
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.

In article <gyan.717617847@unixg.ubc.ca> gyan@unixg.ubc.ca (Gyan P. Sinha) writes:
>In <mg.717572342@elan> mg@elan (Michael Golan) writes:
>
>>[discussion of OS/2 being too powerful erased]
>
>>I'll second that. I almost like the WPS, which must mean that the average user
>>won't ... There are far too many options, and it is far too easy to crash
>>the system with them.
>
>>Example: open drives, and move config.sys to the desktop ... on the next boot,
>                           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>you die. I actually did it, by mistake, so I can edit the file.... 
>
>		[Stuff deleted for brevity]
>
>> Michael Golan
>> mg@princeton.edu
>
>If you move your config.sys to the desktop, you have in effect moved it
>out of your root directory of the boot drive and into a subdirectory,i.e
>OS2! 2.0 Desktop. If OS/2 can't find the config.sys file, why shouldn't
>it crash on bootup? You may as well have deleted config.sys, for all it's
>concerned.
>
>Maybe I'm missing something here. If so, can someone shed some light on
>this?
>
>Gyan P. Sinha
>UBC, Vancouver. 

Gyan:

I believe the point is:

	-  Joe average would not and should not need to know or understand
	   this level of detail.  Does a Mac have a CONFIG.SYS, a root, etc.?

	-  The WPS is suppose to hide from the end-user directory structures.

The solution is that CONFIG.SYS should be able to reside anywhere.  How I don`t
know but ....

Bert Moshier
From: kaz@iastate.edu (Jimmy Buffet)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Ghostscript output to printer...
Summary: Ghostscript output to printer
Keywords: Ghostscript
Date: 5 Oct 92 05:05:50 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

I am really impressed by Ghostscript's PM driver.  Now I have only one 
question, how do I get it to output to my printer?  Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: tlilley@jarthur.claremont.edu (Thomas (Ted) Lilley)
Subject: Re: Why OS/2 **WILL** fail
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 23:20:36 GMT

In article <gyan.717617847@unixg.ubc.ca> gyan@unixg.ubc.ca (Gyan P. Sinha) writes:
>In <mg.717572342@elan> mg@elan (Michael Golan) writes:
>
>>[discussion of OS/2 being too powerful erased]
>
>>I'll second that. I almost like the WPS, which must mean that the average user
>>won't ... There are far too many options, and it is far too easy to crash
>>the system with them.
>
>>Example: open drives, and move config.sys to the desktop ... on the next boot,
>                           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>you die. I actually did it, by mistake, so I can edit the file.... 
>
>		[Stuff deleted for brevity]
>
>> Michael Golan
>> mg@princeton.edu
>
>If you move your config.sys to the desktop, you have in effect moved it
>out of your root directory of the boot drive and into a subdirectory,i.e
>OS2! 2.0 Desktop. If OS/2 can't find the config.sys file, why shouldn't
>it crash on bootup? You may as well have deleted config.sys, for all it's
>concerned.
>
>Maybe I'm missing something here. If so, can someone shed some light on
>this?

Basically, you've got it right, but the point he's trying to make is that
it's too easy to do this under OS/2, if you don't understand the system.
Heck, though, even dos is the same if you don't know what you're doing.  A
friend of mine deleted command.com off his computer because "it was taking
up space on the hard drive".

Ted
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From: gregory@halcyon.com (Gregory Wright)
Subject: Word 2.0 / winos2 3.1
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 00:51:00 GMT

 Could someone please email me the fix for the "One font choice" and
no symbol font for the equation editor? I just got my copy yesterday.

thanks
greg


-- 
 ________Greg Wright____________   "Sure my YMP is fast, but if it doesn't
|  gregory@bcstec.boeing.com    |   run OS2 I don't need it....."
|     gregory@halcyon.com       |                             
|____uunet!bcstec!gregory_______|               NOT A BOEING SPOKESPERSON.
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From: tnfk1@isuvax.iastate.edu (tim green)
Subject: Re: Screensaver
Reply-To: tnfk1@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 01:52:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.093147.811@calmasd.prime.com>, kjb@calmasd.prime.com (Ken Brucker) writes:
>In article <1992Sep23.062045.1@ducvax.auburn.edu>, hank@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:
>> In article <Bv0FF8.Ep1@iat.holonet.net>, kellys@orac.holonet.net (Kelly Schwarzhoff) writes:
>>> Anyone know of any good public domain/shareware screen savers for OS/2 
>>> (running 2.0)?
>> 
>> Deskpic was an interesting screensaver for OS/2 1.3 (at ftp-os2.nmsu.edu).
>> It is not completely compatible with OS/2 (some report lock-ups; I did not
>> get these). It is possible that deskpic would work if set as a simple
>> screensaver--I did not test.
>
>There are problems with some of the Deskpic screen savers, but most of them
>work just fine under OS/2 2.0.  I've seen lockups and hard crashes with a few
>of the screen savers.  Give 'em a try and if you find one that crashes your
>system, just disable that one.
>
>> 
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>**  Ken Brucker -- VMS/Ultrix Systems Programmer/Mangler -- Computer Vision
> **  kjb@calmasd.Prime.COM  
>  **  Practice Random Kindness and Senseless Acts of Beauty
In the docs for V1.32, it is suggested not to use Spheres or Aquarium.
Seems to work for my system.

Tim Green
TNFK1@ISUVAX.IASTATE.EDU



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From: jdecarlo@mitre.org (John DeCarlo)
Subject: Re: Cat and Mouse
Organization: MITRE Corporation, McLean  VA
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:25:25 GMT

In article <BvCIC1.8r6@unx.sas.com>
 sasghw@pica.unx.sas.com (Greg Wust) writes:

>I saw a program running on a demo machine last week
>that had a Cat chasing the mouse cursor on the OS/2 Desktop (catching
>it, napping if it didn't move, etc.).

If you installed the OS/2 Apps, you will find a program called NEKO.EXE in 
the \os2\apps directory.  This cat chasing the mouse cursor program works on 
the OS/2 Desktop.

John DeCarlo, MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA--My views are my own
Fidonet:  1:109/131  Internet:  jdecarlo@mitre.org
From: logic@gacvx2.gac.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: linux && boot manager
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:55:31 GMT
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter, Minnesota

hi,

anyone out thereknow whether or not linux can be used with boot manager?

regards,
al hart
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: Why OS/2 **WILL** fail
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 09:12:52 GMT

In article <8167@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> ygoland@edison.seas.ucla.edu (The Jester) writes:

...stuff deleted .....

>
> I will address my point:Why os/2 WILL fail. 
> true market or they will fail. Personally I expect os/2 users to
> become like NEXT users. There will always be some, but they will be
> small and off in the woods some place.
> 
.....lots of stuff about how tough OS/2 is to use deleted......
 
Jester.....my 4 year old aughter loves OS/2. She can't read yet, but she fires
up the PMmine game *and* DESCRIBE (to write a letter to Nana)....and swaps
happily between the two....
 
Or.....she gets the little cat running around the screen....
 
A guy I work with who *avoids* his Window-laden PC is now determined to get
OS/2 onto it because he has used my machine and finds OS/2 much easier to use.
 
.....obviously, mileage varies. 
 
Steve
-- 
Steve Withers - Wellington, New Zealand | On Sept. 19th, 88% of NZ voters opted
Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz         | for proportional representation. It
withers_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz            | looks like we may get a more  
**** Happy user of OS/2 v2!! ****       | democratic system "real soon now".
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From: petesk@microsoft.com (Pete Skelly)
Subject: Re: MS ready to release 32-bit Word & Excel?!?! Read on...
Date: 02 Oct 92 09:37:50 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

In article <1992Oct1.140816.22010@utdallas.edu> goyal@utdallas.edu wrote:
> >No list price for NT has been announced.  Add memory to most 386 class machines
> >and they are quite capable of running NT.  (most machines are shipped with
> >2 or 4 meg, NT needs 8) <- hey, I made a smile.
> >
> >
> Bill Gates has been quoted in various magazines saying that it will probably
> be from $395 to $495, though he was speaking in reference to list price,
> not any special promotions that could last for years..

The only quote I'm aware of is something about the price being under
$500US.  If you can give me a pointer to those articles, I'd appreciate
it.

> 
> I am *very* curious to see how NT will run under 8megs.  I get the 
> impression from your message that 8megs is the minimum requirements,
> and we all now how well any OS runs under its minimum config.
> 
> Will it be fully capable with 8megs, or will it have different "levels"
> like Windows has.

I believe it's their goal to have a complete NT running in 8 megs, with
some room left for an app.


petesk@microsoft.com
My Opinions...
From: sal8@po.cwru.edu (Steve Luzynski)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: simple q: bigger windows? scrollable windows?
Date: 5 Oct 1992 01:45:44 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b61442.student.cwru.edu

In article <1992Oct4.210521.3241@news.columbia.edu> hpw@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Harry P Warren) writes:
>From: hpw@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Harry P Warren)
>Subject: simple q: bigger windows? scrollable windows?
>Date: 4 Oct 92 21:05:21 GMT
>
>October 4, 1992
>
>Hello,
>
>  Is there any way to resize os/2 command line sessions to anything
>larger than 80x25? Is there any way to make sessions that are
>"buffered" or "scrollable"? It seems so simple . . . 
>
>harry warren
>hpw@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu

Try getting help on the mode command in the OS/2 command reference. You can 
set damn near any video mode you want for your command line sessions with 
the thing.
From: logic@gacvx2.gac.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: ckermit && TE/2
Date: 28 Sep 92 09:07:29 -0600
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter, Minnesota

In article <1992Sep28.085543.33159@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk>, ucgadkw@ucl.ac.uk (Dominik Wujastyk) writes:
> 
> I tried using the kermit.exe file which was on hobbes, and on the TE/2
> BBS, and it just hangs.  It also seems old.  Brady seems to have 
> taken a 1983 version of Kermit source and cobbled it together for
> TE/2.  This would (if it worked) not support all the long-block
> and other features added to Kermit in the last decade.
> 
> Dominik
I've not had this problem while using brady's kermit..  The only problem
I've had with it is that, as you note, it does not support long packets..

regards,
Al Hart

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: swknasri@nuscc.nus.sg (Sriram N (Dr))
Subject: Re: Corrupted Disk2 in Describe 3.0
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 02:20:08 GMT

swknasri@nuscc.nus.sg (Sriram N (Dr)) writes:
: Hi,
: 
:    I just got my copy of Describe 3.0.  It turns out that a part of
: Disk2 is corrupted (some text conversion files fail the cyclic
: redundancy check, side 0 track 15 and 16 of the 3.5" according to
: diskcopy).  It doesn't affect installation if I only choose some of
: the text conversion options.  Anyone willing to send me (uuencoded)
: version of data2 (1.44MB)?  I know my request may not be strictly
: legal but it would save me the hassle of phoning them (no 800 numbers
: here).  Also I am not aware of any local shops carrying the software.
: 
: Alternatively do they have an internet address?
: 
: Another thing:  There was no receipt inside the box.  My payment was by
: visacard.  Is this normal?  I need the receipt.
: 
: Yes, I got the OS/2 version.
: 
: Sriram
: 
: (*Very Satisfied user of OS/2 v2.0*)

Someone has offered to help me out.  Thanks, martin.

Sriram
From: craig@ec.uwa.oz.au (Craig Richmond - division)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Shredder vs. Trash (was: Why OS/2 **WILL** fail)
Date: 3 Oct 1992 07:48:12 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: decel.ecel.uwa.edu.au

jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu (John H. Kim) writes:

>Emptying the trash is a little more work than the Mac, you have to select
>all the files and drop them on the shredder.  I prefer it though because
>I can shred the useless stuff while keeping the stuff that has a chance
>of being needed later.  With the Mac, you can only empty the trashcan
>deleting everything in there at once unless you open it up, drag some
>stuff out, empty the trash, and drag the stuff back in.

The other annoying thing (that will inevitably be fixed) is that the System
will not empty some things out of the trash for you when it is runnign out
of space.  It should take items that have been in the trash can the longest
and start trashing them until there is sufficient space.  You can't
complain because you put the things in the trashcan in the first place.
There are also a number of third party trash managers available that will
let you do more intelligent things with your trash.  I don't use them
though.

Craig
--
Craig Richmond.  Computer Officer -  Dept of Economics (morning) 380 3860
  University of Western Australia    Dept of Education (afternoon)
craig@ecel.uwa.edu.au                              Dvorak Keyboards RULE!
     "Only users are allowed to make messes on their computers"  I.M.VI
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From: gregory@halcyon.com (Gregory Wright)
Subject: New Beta / Screen saver 
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 07:21:20 GMT

  With all this talk on screen savers going on I thought that everyone
would like to know that Deskpic now works with OS2! All you need is 
the new Beta.
  I had Deskpic on the GA and, like everyone else, had troubles with
a few of the screen savers. Now with the new 32-bit GRE loaded it ALL
works great. The only thing that still isn't perfect is the fact that
the background picture still rests on top of the desktop. But, *EVERY
ONE* of the screen savers now work.

Does anybody have the address of the author? I would like to get
some info on writing for Deskpic.

-- 
 ________Greg Wright____________   "Sure my YMP is fast, but if it doesn't
|  gregory@bcstec.boeing.com    |   run OS2 I don't need it....."
|     gregory@halcyon.com       |                             
|____uunet!bcstec!gregory_______|               NOT A BOEING SPOKESPERSON.
From: juan@noyles.pha.pa.us (Juan J. E. T. Noyles)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Why OS/2 **WILL** fail
Distribution: world
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 19:13:37 GMT
Organization: The Noyles OS/2 Platform

grendel@cis.ksu.edu writes in article <grendel.717609682@cygnus.cis.ksu.edu.cis.ksu.edu>:
> 
> In article <mg.717572342@elan> mg@elan (Michael Golan) writes:
> >[discussion of OS/2 being too powerful erased]
> >
> [second of the discussion of OS/2 being to powerful erased]
> 
> Who knows... perhaps the Unix wienies are
> correct: if you're going to use something that takes some brains to operate,
> ya might as well use something that alot of people with brains are
> already using.

Personally, I'm a lot happier with OS/2 than Unix in any flavor.  X windows
was more of a pain in the ass than the WorkPlace Shell is.

> 
> On a lighter note, this is only version *2*.  It might not be the wonder
> system that IBM claims it to be (didn't they say something about a monkey
> being able to use it?), but it can only get better.
> 

I am not usually impressed by demos, especially when they're only slide
shows.  But seeing the CUA demo last year is what made me decide to
give OS/2 another chance.  For me, it was the ability to objectify info, and
manipulate it in that form.  You know, the part where the customer's icon
was dropped onto the new form to fill it out...

The only other demo I've ever been impressed by was the first Amiga
demo, when I realized that I wasn't listening to a stereo cassette recording,
but computer output.  Of course, that was way back in the '80s.
--
Has anyone seen your sanity?				Juan@Noyles.pha.pa.us
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From: ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Shredder vs. Trash (was: Why OS/2 **WILL** fail)
Date: 2 Oct 92 10:02:12 GMT
 <1abbgoINNmk6@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> <1992Oct1.093300.9392@unlv.edu>
 <1agjd5INNfuk@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> <1992Oct2.063551.20153@muddcs.claremont.edu>
Organization: Forschungszentrum Juelich

In article <1992Oct2.063551.20153@muddcs.claremont.edu>,
jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu (John H. Kim) says:
>

>What I did was drag a new folder off the templates and drop the shredder
>into it.  Then I used a nifty recycle icon (the three arrows making a
>triangle) you see everywhere nowadays as the folder's icon and renamed
>it "Recycle".  When I want to delete anything, I just drag it onto the
>recycle icon and the file gets moved into the folder just like the Mac
>trashcan.

Do you have an idea how to deal with multiple partitions? I had that idea
myself but then figured out I have to learn a bit more about WPS programming.
I have one 45MB OS/2 drive and two other logical drives for DOS and data.
If I would do it like you and then trash a huge amount of stuff on my data
drive it would be copied to the system drive. This would take time and
eventually would not fit onto the system drive.

What we need would be some "folder" which moves the stuff dropped on it into
the DELETE directory of the same drive. When you open that "folder" it should
display the contents of _all_ the DELETE directories on your harddisks. And if
you move something out of that "folder" you should move the real object. This
rules it out to show just a shadow of the real object in the trash folder.

I`m sure this would be a nice little piece of WPS programming and someone will
soon do that as freeware. I will do it myself if I get the time to.

Michael Bode.
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From: tholen@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Dave Tholen)
Subject: Re: Why OS/2 **WILL** fail
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 22:50:26 GMT

The Jester writes:

> I don't know ANYONE who can't just
> jump into a MAC or Windows program without problem, but sit them in
> front of os/2 and they start drooling in confusion.

Now you do.  I had heard about the "intuitive" graphical interface of
the Macintosh, so one day while browsing at a Computerland store, I
sat in front of a Macintosh and tried to do something with it.  I
couldn't do anything.  At least with a command line interface, I knew
enough to type HELP, and if you try that on OS/2, it actually does try
to help you.  But with the Macintosh, I had no idea how to get help.
At least with OS/2, the desktop has a START HERE icon, as well as an
INFORMATION icon.  These don't help, however, if you don't know what
to do to activate them.  Is double clicking a mouse button intuitive?
Not to somebody who was weaned on a command line interface.

In my opinion, whether GUI or CLI is more intuitive depends largely on
your background.  Even the Macintosh fans I know admit that you need at
least some tutorial to get started on a GUI.  Similarly, a new user will
also need a tutorial to get started on a CLI.  The question then becomes
which requires less training?  Can somebody cite any studies done?  I'd
rather not speculate.

I don't think OS/2 is any more confusing than either the Macintosh or
Windows.  It might be confusing to somebody who was weaned on either
of those GUIs, but to the new user, there is nothing intrinsic about
OS/2 that makes it more difficult to learn.  The fact that it has more
controls that can be twiddled doesn't mean that a person must learn
about all of them.  The default configuration could be entirely adequate
for them.

> OS/2 can't survive in it's current form. Its just
> too damn hard for your average computer semi-literate to deal with!
> Any idiot can install and get windows running, but getting os/2
> running takes a computer jock.

I don't consider myself a computer jock, but I had no trouble getting OS/2
running.  If I were a computer jock, I probably would have installed UNIX
on my machine a long time ago, given that I was looking for a 32-bit
operating system.  But UNIX was too intimidating.  And with OS/2, I
haven't had to fool around with the .PIF files that I've heard Windows
users complaining about.  If these folks are having trouble with Windows,
but "any idiot can install and get Windows running", then what would you
call these folks?
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From: jja@wsl.ie (John J. Allen)
Subject: Re: MS to release PM32 Word & Excel?  NOT
Organization: Project Papyrus, AIRAID, Dublin, Ireland
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 11:24:59 GMT

tomjo@microsoft.com (Tom Johnston) writes:
: Why should Msft (or anyone else) write apps for PM32?  OS/2 runs
: Windows apps (or so IBM tells me).  I'll just stick with Windows apps.

Well seeing as Windows runs DOS apps, why did Microsoft create WinWord
when it already had Word for DOS. Why not just keep upgrading DOS Word and
tell users to use that instead of createing a Windows specific version.
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From: wjw1@me1.MsState.Edu (Bill Wilson)
Subject: Re: Virtual Desktop Application?
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 08:57:05 GMT


Oh yeah... if you have or decide to get BigDesk to try running it
in seamless mode, make sure you have your Desktop Icon View Setting
set to flowed or non-flowed... NOT non-grid. If you run with the
setting of non-grid, you will have a hard time finding all your
desktop icons on the large virtual desktop (2048x2048). And by 
setting to flowed or non-flowed, your desktop icons are ALWAYS at
the left edge of the screen, no matter what section of the desktop
you are on.

__
Bill Wilson : MSU Nuclear Engineering
slave to the waffle light

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From: "Christoph Luebbe" <UJ4J@DKAUNI2.BITNET>
Subject: Int Problems with OS/2
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 10:42:14 GMT

Hi
..
I use a MIDI Card (Music Quest MPU401 compatible) and after
migrating from DOS 5.0 to OS/2 I got problems with the interrupts.
I can't receive any keystrokes from my MIDI Keyboard while
sending musik to the keyboard works fine. I tried all Ints with
no effort. I hope someone can help me.
Thanks in advance
..
Christoph Luebbe: uj4j@dkauni2.bitnet    or
                  uj4j@ibm3090.rz.uni-karlsruhe.dbp.de
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From: ail8070@tamsun.tamu.edu (Andy I. Liaw)
Subject: where is dirman20.zip?
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:05:10 GMT

I can't find dirman20.zip anywhere in hobbes.  can anyone tell me where it is?

andy
aliaw@stat.tamu.edu

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From: stidolph@leland.Stanford.EDU (Wayne Stidolph)
Subject: Re: GRE Beta and WfW 2.0? (SOLVED??)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 00:04:58 GMT

[deleted dicussion of problem: WFW2.0 drop-downs not working under]
[OS/2 GRE/Win31 beta...                                           ]

I had this problem after migrating Word 2.0a; *but* I was also getting
the complaint about three missing files when I launched Word from an
icon (with setting set to Winodws 3.1). When I launched word from a
full-screen WinOS2 3.1 seession, no warning about SHELL.DLL, OLECLI.DLL,
and OLESVR.DLL being missing.

Anyway, I went ahead and copied the three DLL from my /mindows/system
into my /os2/mdos/winos2 (hope I got that right) and now the fonts and
such all work fine. I made no other changes in between. And, I intend to
make no more changes :) :) !!
  Wayne


-- 
Wayne  stidolph@gtewd.mtv.gsc.gte.com or stidolph@leland.stanford.edu 
What I say is from me only. I try to be accurate, but I make mistakes: sorry.
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