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From: gatech!pro-magic.oau.org!mikeu (Mike Ungerman)
Subject: Re: Agnostics and Athiests
Organization: Pro-Magic [A Proline BBS] Orlando, FL
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 09:40:23 EDT

psbapat@mtu.edu (   BAPAT) writes:

>
>72418.7565@ll.mit.edu>
>Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:04:22 GMT
>Lines: 36
>
>> 
>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IF THIS DOESN'T STOP, IM GOING TO START THE WORST CASCADE EVER.
>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>WHILE EATING THIS SLOP, I SEWED THE FIRST BROCADE BEAVER.
>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BILE FITTING RIG STOP, LIE SPEWED THIRST LIVER !!!!
>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>IF YOU MUST CONTRIBUTE, AT LEAST DELIVER...
>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>WHO MAY I ATTRIBUTE TO THIS BEASTLY SLIVER?
>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>TO SPAY A LUTE IN A GREASY RIVER
>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>DAMN CASCADERS THINK YOU'RE SO CLEVER
>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>I WILL NOT CASCADE; NOPE, NO, NEVER
>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>WOULD YOU, COULD YOU, ON A TRAIN?
>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>WOULD YOU, COULD YOU, IN THE RAIN?
>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>R2-D2 ON THE BRAIN?
>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>This cascade is damn insane!
>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>And it's really getting lame!
>> |> > >>>> > >>>>POST IN CAPS YOU WEIRDOS, WHAT ARE YOU DEAF ? !!!!!!!!!!!!
>> |> > >>>> > >>>YOUVE RUINED MY RIGHT EAR, HOW 'BOUT THE LEFT?
>> |> > >>>> > >>LEFT AT THE NEXT LIGHTS, UNLESS RED
>> |> > >>>> > >THIS SILLY THING IS SOMETHING I DREAD, 
>> |> > >>>> > >BETTER I SHOULD BE BUSY IN BED !
>> |> > >>>> > WANKER, GIVE THY HAND A REST!
>> |> > >>>> NAH! THIS AIN'T REC.HUMOR AT ITS BEST.
>> |> > >>>SURELY YOU JEST?
>> |> > >>THIS IS A TEST.
>> |> > >SO BE OUR GUEST.
>> |> > TESTING, TESTING, ONE TWO THREE.
>> |> RETURN OF THE MONSTER CASCADE, HEE HEE HEE! 
>> IF WISHES WERE HORSES THEN WHAT WOULD WE BE?
>THE ANSWER MUST BE IN UPPER CASE SO THAT ALL CAN SEE.
AT LEAST THIS HAS GOTTEN HERE SO THE NEXT ONE CAN BE ME!


-------------
Mike Ungerman
mikeu@pro-magic [a Proline BBS, Orlando, Fl]
Internet: mikeu@pro-magic.oau.org
          ...!osceola.cs.ucf.edu!pro-magic.oau.org!mikeu
Voice: 407-366-5840 | Prodigy: JSNP58A | Compuserve: 71326,31
From: ISTN100@INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU ("ELLEN G. COHN")
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Musical SF
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:53:34 GMT

Chris mentioned Anne McCaffrey's Harper Hall books, and The Ship Who Sang, but
forgot to include 'Crystal Singer' and 'Killishandra'.  BTW, is it true
that a third book featuring Killishandra is due out any day now?

Ellen - the crime doctor

Xref: sparky rec.arts.sf.misc:3039 rec.arts.sf.written:13264
From: schmunk@spacsun.rice.edu (Robert Schmunk)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc,rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Looking for July 86 Amazing
Date: 1 Oct 92 04:04:55 GMT
Reply-To: schmunk@spacsun.rice.edu (Robert Schmunk)
Organization: Dept. of Space Physics, Rice University, Houston TX

I'm looking for the name of a story which appeared in the July 1986 issue
of Amazing Stories. The author is Harry Turtledove and the story is an
installment in his Agent of Byzantium alternate history series. Thanks
in advance if you can help.

-- 
Robert B. Schmunk <schmunk@spacsun.rice.edu>
SPAC, Rice Univ, Box 1892, Houston, TX 77251 USA
From: lola@LUCID.COM (Lola McCrary)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Musical SF and F
Date: 6 Oct 92 05:01:13 GMT


_Gossamer Axe_ by Gael Baudino and _War for the Oaks_ by Emma Bull for those
who like a more rock and roll type of music.  Both are excellent.  

For a book of stories based totally on a song try _Carmen Miranda's Ghost is
Haunting Space Station Three_, based on a filk song by Leslie Fish.  A lot of
good authors, including Anne McCaffrey and Julia Ecklar wrote for it.

Julia Ecklar also has a short story that came out a few years ago that revolves
around a musician.  I can't remember the title.

Spider Robinson's _Callahan_ stories feature a guitar player as the narrator in
the story.  I believe some of his songs are included.

Lola
From: TILTON@uofport.BITNET (KITTY TILTON ** NURSING)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Re: SF-LOVERS Digest   V17 #504
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:50:00 GMT

How about McCaffrey's Crystal Singer series?

kitty
tilton@uofport.bitnet
Xref: sparky rec.arts.sf.misc:3051 alt.cyberpunk.tech:720
From: disaacs@thuma.carleton.ca (Dave Isaacs)
Subject: Re: Agnostics and Athiests
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:36:06 GMT

In <1992Sep30.094023.20888@pro-magic.oau.org> gatech!pro-magic.oau.org!mikeu (Mike Ungerman) writes:

>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IF THIS DOESN'T STOP, IM GOING TO START THE WORST CASCADE EVER.
>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>WHILE EATING THIS SLOP, I SEWED THE FIRST BROCADE BEAVER.
>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BILE FITTING RIG STOP, LIE SPEWED THIRST LIVER !!!!
>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>IF YOU MUST CONTRIBUTE, AT LEAST DELIVER...
>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>WHO MAY I ATTRIBUTE TO THIS BEASTLY SLIVER?
>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>TO SPAY A LUTE IN A GREASY RIVER
>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>DAMN CASCADERS THINK YOU'RE SO CLEVER
>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>I WILL NOT CASCADE; NOPE, NO, NEVER
>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>>WOULD YOU, COULD YOU, ON A TRAIN?
>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>>WOULD YOU, COULD YOU, IN THE RAIN?
>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>>R2-D2 ON THE BRAIN?
>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>>This cascade is damn insane!
>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>>And it's really getting lame!
>>> |> > >>>> > >>>>POST IN CAPS YOU WEIRDOS, WHAT ARE YOU DEAF ? !!!!!!!!!!!!
>>> |> > >>>> > >>>YOUVE RUINED MY RIGHT EAR, HOW 'BOUT THE LEFT?
>>> |> > >>>> > >>LEFT AT THE NEXT LIGHTS, UNLESS RED
>>> |> > >>>> > >THIS SILLY THING IS SOMETHING I DREAD, 
>>> |> > >>>> > >BETTER I SHOULD BE BUSY IN BED !
>>> |> > >>>> > WANKER, GIVE THY HAND A REST!
>>> |> > >>>> NAH! THIS AIN'T REC.HUMOR AT ITS BEST.
>>> |> > >>>SURELY YOU JEST?
>>> |> > >>THIS IS A TEST.
>>> |> > >SO BE OUR GUEST.
>>> |> > TESTING, TESTING, ONE TWO THREE.
>>> |> RETURN OF THE MONSTER CASCADE, HEE HEE HEE! 
>>> IF WISHES WERE HORSES THEN WHAT WOULD WE BE?
>>THE ANSWER MUST BE IN UPPER CASE SO THAT ALL CAN SEE.
>AT LEAST THIS HAS GOTTEN HERE SO THE NEXT ONE CAN BE ME!
THE BEAST HAS FORGOTTEN BEER, SO SET IT FREE!


Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Date: Mon,  5 Oct 1992 12:33:57 -0400 
From: "Andrew C. Plotkin" <ap1i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Musical SF
	<1api2cINN5of@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>

In a previous article, ISTN100@INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU ("ELLEN G. COHN") says:

>Chris mentioned Anne McCaffrey's Harper Hall books, and The Ship Who Sang, but
>forgot to include 'Crystal Singer' and 'Killishandra'.  BTW, is it true
>that a third book featuring Killishandra is due out any day now?

_Crystal Line_

--Z

"And Aholibamah bare Jeush, and Jaalam, and Korah: these were the borogoves..."
From: chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Re: Mercedes Lackey
Date: 6 Oct 92 03:53:30 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

>I want desperately to correspond with Mercedes Lackey!  I've tried 
>forwarding via her publisher, but have no idea if the !@@# letter 
>actually GOT anywhere!

#include <generic_mailing_to_authors.h>

They do go through. That's the appropriate way to contact. Be aware that (1)
there are sometimes delays at the publisher, (2) if the publisher routes
through the agent, there may be another delay there, (3) Misty's rather busy
these days, so fan mail has a lower priority, and (4) [I shouldn't have to
say this, but it happens too often] if you didn't include a Self Addressed
Stamped Envelope, you shouldn't expect a response. You *might* get one, if
the author feels like it, but without paying return freight, many don't.

Even if you have included a SASE, if it's been less than a month, you're too
impatient. 

#end_include

>Does anyone have a Snail address or Email address 
>where I can reach her?

She's not on Internet. She is on GEnie (actually, Larry is, most of the
time). And if it really can't wait and you can convince me it's important,
I can forward stuff to them. 



-- 
Chuq "IMHO" Von Rospach, ESD Support & Training (DAL/AUX) =+= Member, SFWA
  chuq@apple.com | GEnie: MAC.BIGOT | ALink:CHUQ =+= Editor, OtherRealms


Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc,alt.fandom.cons,rec.arts.sf.fandom,rec.arts.sf.written
From: ecl@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Evelyn C. Leeper)
Subject: MagiCon Con Report Available
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:15:45 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.fandom

My MagiCon con report is now available.  However, as usual, it's too
long to post here.  (Actually, it's even longer than usual, being about
2770 lines, 20,000 words, or 125,808 bytes.)

If you want it, it is available via anonymous FTP from the SF-Lovers
archives on elbereth.rutgers.edu.  To make it easier to ftp, the file
has been split into three parts and the filenames are Magicon.report.1,
Magicon.report.2, and Magicon.report.3.  (Note that if you copy these
back to a system that has a 14-character limit on filenames, you must
rename them or they will overwrite each other.)

If you can't get it via FTP, you can send mail to me and I will email
it to you in three sections.

If you wanted to be added to my mailing list for future convention
reports, let me know.  These will almost certainly land in the archives
as well, so you'll probably be able to get them there as easily.  (I
usually do con reports for Boskone and Worldcon, which is pretty much
the extent of my con-going these days.)

Evelyn C. Leeper   |   +1 908 957 2070   |   att!mtgzy!ecl or ecl@mtgzy.att.com
From: denebeim@brtph254.bnr.ca (Jay Denebeim P025)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Re: Mercedes Lackey
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:32:16 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research

In article <1992Oct05.083131.24217@clarinet.com> brad@clarinet.com (Brad Templeton) writes:
>Before you write fan mail to an SF writer whom you know has a lot of
>fans, I suggest you read the chapter on fan mail in RAH's "Grumbles from
>the Grave."
>
>Read it twice.

Brad is quite right.  IMO you'd be much better off going to cons she's
at, its not too difficult to arrange at least a few minutes with a
pro, you run into them in the hall, or whatever.  Generally they have
book signing sessions, and at some cons, small intimate groups you can
sign up for.
-- 
Jay Denebeim     Address: UUCP:     duke!wolves!deepthot!jay
                          Internet: jay@deepthot.cary.nc.us
                 BBS:(919)-460-7430      VOICE:(919)-460-6934
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Alien director's cut
Date: 1 Oct 92 08:04:39
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: daf31428@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu's message of Wed, 30 Sep 1992 23:34:12 GMT

>>>>> On Wed, 30 Sep 1992 23:34:12 GMT, daf31428@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (David A. Fleming) said:

daf31428> Well, I haven't seen it mentioned here, so I guess _I_ will.

daf31428> The last time I was up in an store specializing in LDs in
daf31428> suburban Chicago, they had a notice put up for the
daf31428> director's cut of Alien (no, NOT plural :-).  It's the same
daf31428> kinda deal they had for the sequel -- CAV, letterboxed,
daf31428> added scenes, blahblahblah.  Cost?  Only $100.  Not TOO
daf31428> much, huh?  Right... :- If I remember correctly, the release
daf31428> date was to be sometime towards the end of October -- maybe
daf31428> Halloween.

Yes it will have the same treatment as AlienS. LBX, CAV, a ton of
extras. The release date was Suppost to be today (10/1) but has been
pushed back (last I heard) til 10/8.
--
 Scott Streeter                             Keeper of the Star Wars Archive
 ss@wpi.wpi.edu                             wpi.wpi.edu        130.215.24.1
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
From: ckt4x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Curt Tsui)
Subject: Re: Legend
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 13:37:43 GMT

cpeckham@nyx.cs.du.edu  writes:
> Hi,
> does anyone know who wrote the storyline behind the film
> _Legend_?  Have they written anything else for book or
> film?  Thanks for your help.
> Chris

Ridley Scott came up with the story and William Hjortsberg
wrote the screenplay.  Hjortsberg wrote the fine horror
thriller novel _Falling Angel_ which was the source of Alan
Parker's adaptation _Angel Heart_ (Parker wrote that
screenplay, not Hjortsberg).
--
Curt Tsui           |  "...we won't kill him unless we have to...."
curt@Virginia.EDU   |            Pluto, _One False Move_        
                                          
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
From: denebeim@brtph254.bnr.ca (Jay Denebeim P025)
Subject: Re: LawnMower Man
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:05:44 GMT

In article <jpesonen.54@viikki.Helsinki.FI> jpesonen@viikki.Helsinki.FI (JORMA JUHANI PESONEN (EKT)) writes:
>Well your roommates are right: The video release contains almost a half an 
>hour more material than the theatre release. Mainly from the beginning, but 
>also in the "virtual sex" and end confrontation scenes.
>
>Haven't seen it yet, but I'm following the papers...;-)

I have, the box says 'directors cut', and it does indeed have quite a
bit more footage.  There's some good stuff in the relationship between
the lawnmower man (can't recall his noame) and that priest type, but
because it required the ape to be present there so was cut out.  

I can see why they cut the ape scenes, it just was too much
coincidence that the ape just 'happened' to show up at the lawnmower
man's shack.

If you liked lawnmower man, I did because for most of the movie I
could believe everything, you'll like the tape.  Its definately
different, freaked me out too because I didn't know it and thought I
was going crazy :-)


-- 

--

 |_o_o|\\
 |. o.| || The           Jay Denebeim
From: rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu (Jeff Bytof)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Solaris, the "freeway sequence"
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:07:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: golem.rabjab.4.718315643
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: lutherlab.ucsd.edu


I watched the "Solaris" last night, and could follow it easily given
that I read the Lem novel.  However, what is the meaning of the rather
long "freeway sequence" in the first part of the movie?  It
looks like they filmed it in Japan.  What was Tarkovsky trying to
add to the story?

Jeff Bytof
rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
From: broaj2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au (BROWN ADRIAN)
Subject: Re: Deckard as 6th Replicant doesn't hold water
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 04:22:19 GMT

haley@unixg.ubc.ca (Ross MacGregor) writes:

>3) How about this one (from a previous poster)?
>         The unicorn was actually Rachel's dream.  Does anyone else
>find it odd that Deckard would dream of a unicorn?  Even as a replicant...
>Hmm this begs a greater question. I'll get to that later.

>Ross MacGregor           |  These views are my own and can be considered 
>haley@unixg.ubc.ca       |  absolute truth.

Ummm. Not too sure wether you did get back to this point ... you 'new thread'
did not discuss this point fully ...

IMHO, you have struck on quite an idea (I haven't read the previous post you
mentioned, BTW) ... that Gaff's unicorn is part of a dream of RACHAEL's, 
NOT Deckard's. Having not seen the DC, I cannot be completely sure, but
why couldn't Deckard have been dreaming about Rachael's memories, which
Gaff had also been privy to, and Gaff had simply made the Unicorn origami to
symbolise he understood what was between Rachael and Deckard?

It need not be a symbol that Deckard is a replicant, after all ...


=======================================================================
  ^     ^     o		The Brown Dog.
 / \ ^ / \   o       broaj2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au 
 \ () () /  o        
 `\  ^  /' o      "and I'm thinking about mortality ...		    
   \ U /  o    I'm thinking it's a cheap price to pay for existence .."	
   +\ /+ o            
     Yooo /                            - Bob Geldof,  
    ( \  ( \                   Voyager 2 type things ... 
======================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
From: jk87377@cc.tut.fi (Juhana Kouhia)
Subject: Re: Deckard is NOT a Replicant
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 07:28:19 GMT


In article <5964@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at>
mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner) writes: 
>From article <1992Sep26.221800.964@cc.tut.fi>, by jk87377@cc.tut.fi
>(Juhana Kouhia):
>
>> Why you think that it is not possible to make weaker replicant?
>
>Nobody ever said it was not possible.

Yep, I read too quickly...


>The point is not that Deckard is weaker, but that he is TOO WEAK to do
>his job properly, considering the opposition he is up against.

Too weak physically? Mentally he is not weak; he is intelligent, or?
The guns exist so that weak people can kill stronger people easily.

Actually I don't understand how people can be *too* weak anyway.
Mentally weak is different, but you don't mean that, or?

It is enough that Deckard can think, run and lift the gun.

How about other Blade Runners then? They are human and weak too.
It could be easily noticed by other Blade Runners that Deckard
is not human, if he were stronger than now. (Assuming that Deckard is
a replicant.)

So, it makes sense that Deckard is weak as normal human.
It is not meant that Deckard is recognized to be a replicant.
Also, Deckard himself could notice that he is not human...

Juhana Kouhia
Xref: sparky rec.arts.sf.movies:7747 rec.arts.movies:29582 alt.cult-movies:8761
From: ben@abby.chem.ucla.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: BR: Raw oysters, boiled dogs, tequila worms, calfskin wallets.
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:06:53 GMT
Reply-To: ben@abby.chem.ucla.edu
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.movies
Organization: Department of Chemistry, UCLA

Re: Calfskin wallets:

Answer (short): Read the book, "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" by 
P.K. Dick

Answer (long): In the BR society (according to Dick), REAL animals are
basically all extinct.  To own a real animal is a honor and a privledge 
(Sorry, I spell like the VP); in the book, Deckard is dreaming of owning a
real sheep.  Important to note: In the book 'Artificial' animals, and presumably
replicants, are Mechanical, not G. Engineered.  Very well made 'artificial'
animals (people) are practicallly indistinguisable from their real counter-
parts.  The only way Nexus-N replicants can be disinguished (without 
disecting them) form humans in through their emotional (or lack thereof)
responses.  Actually, there is another non-standard way mentioned:  
Replicants are designed without the Vagus nerve cut in to restore breathing 
(ugh). I mean: Replicants are designed without the Vagus nerve response (cut
in), which restores respiratory activity (breathing) during unconciousness.
Sorry that paragraph is so unreadably; my editor is malfunctioning.

Because real animals are so rare; killing or harming them for any reason
is illegal, and considered to be revolting, uncivilized, and generally 
socially unaceptable.

Tangent: The title wonders whether Replicants dream of owning animals 
(as Decker does), but dream of owning artificial ones.

I highly recommend the book to all, especially to anyone who is in the 
least bit intrigued by the movie.

Ben Hitz
hitz@cuhhca.hhmi.columbia.edu

P.S.
I know, I know, this isn't rec.book.reviews.sci-fi, but cut me some slack 
here.

Ben

Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
From: caruso@socrates.umd.edu (John Caruso)
Subject: Re: Deckard is NOT a Replicant
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 04:39:00 GMT

In article <5964@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at> mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner) writes:
>The point is not that Deckard is weaker, but that he is TOO WEAK to do
>his job properly, considering the opposition he is up against.
>Therefore his being a replicant is not PLAUSIBLE because it would not
>be a REASONABLE assignment.  

Crucial to your argument is the assumption that when Deckard was created,
the full capabilities of Roy-style Nexus 6 replicants were known and would
have disqualified Deckard from consideration as a blade runner.  Or put
another way, that if Deckard is a replicant he MUST be as powerful as a
Nexus 6, and since he isn't that powerful, he's not fit for the job, so
he can't be a replicant in the first place.  These are big assumptions.

Obviously if Deckard and Roy cooked in the same pot together, then the
"Deckard's a replicant" argument is in serious trouble...this appears to
be your basic line of reasoning.  But Deckard could have been brewed
before Roy and company, and hence have plenty of power to take out pre-
Roy replicants, but not be the best choice to deconstruct Roy-flavored
crunchy-style replicants.  We know that Deckard's done well in the past;
the trouble he has with the Nexus 6's is therefore an anomaly, NOT the
norm.  He does not "plod" (as you've said)...until he has to fight a
bulldozer.

Again I say, the problem with substantiating any claim about Deckard's
nature is Ridley Scott's desire to make it UNCLEAR.  Or maybe to make
it NUCLEAR.  One of those two.  The haze is necessary because a movie
in which Deckard is obviously just another replicant wouldn't have the
same endlessly discussable quality about it that Blade Runner with all
of its arbitrary ambiguities does.  As evidenced by the mind-boggling
number of postings we've seen so far.

- John
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
From: duke@portal.paperboy.osf.org (Robert Robillard)
Subject: Re: BR II????
Organization: /u1/duke/.organization
Date: 28 Sep 92 12:40:01


   Someone in r.a.movies said they heard on MuchMusic (canadian MTV) 
   that Ridley Scott wants to do Bladerunner II, but with Gerard
   Depardieu...
   Anyone else care to confirm this?

At Worldcon, the film studio guy who was showing previews said that
a Bladerunner II was in the works.  

It could be okay as long as Deckard and Rachel and all don't appear
(or hardly appear).  Like, you could make more good movies in that 
SF world, as long as there weren't real "sequels."

--
Duke Robillard, DoD #0130, duke@osf.org
From: jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: BR: Why does Pris short out?
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:50:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: skcla.1992Oct5.125028.1
Organization: Searle, Skokie, IL
Nntp-Posting-User: lhfost

I saw the director's cut of Bladerunner last night, and I've got two questions
(one new, one that was in the old cut).

1) I've always assumed that the replicants are home-grown living beings, not
mechanical in any way.  Why does Pris spark and short out when shot?  Did she
land on something electrical?  That is not clear.

2) At the beginning, Brian says to Deckard that SIX replicants escaped and that
ONE was fried trying to break into Tyrell, leaving FOUR.  Did math change in
the 21st century, or is that just a gaffe?  Rachel had never been offworld, and
Deckard's been bladerunning for a while, we assume, so let's not count them,
right?
[If this has been covered extensively, please ignore.  I haven't gotten through
the posts yet]

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