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From: warda@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Unpublished Cordwainer Smith?
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:23:38 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

> By the way, let me get in a book plug here.  Sometime early
> next year (by February I hope, though by late Spring at the
> latest), NESFA Press will be publishing "The Complete Short
> Science Fiction of Cordwainer Smith" in one hardcover volume
> (cost probably $22-$30, depending upon our printing costs). The book
> will include all tof  The Best of Cordwainder Smith,  The
> Instrumentality of Mankind, Quest of Three Worlds, "Down to
> a Sunless Sea" and one previously unpublished story (unless
> somehow The Last Dangerous Visions beats us to press:)). 

Is the previously unpublished story "Himself In Anachron?"  This is mentioned 
in the "time-line" in "Best Of CWS", but I've never seen it anywhere.  I have 
a vague recollection that it was supposed to appear in "Again, Dangerous 
Visions" - a book I have never seen, but would love to get a hold of.  Can 
anyone confirm or deny this?

Nice to see such a consensus of approval for one of my favourite writes, BTW.
He _has_ written a few duff stories, but there weren't any in the "Best Of", 
I reckon.

   Bill Bennett                           JANET: warda@uk.ac.oxford.vax    
   CRC Growth Factors Research Group   Internet: warda%vax.oxford.ac.uk
From: Pieter.Stouten@EMBL-HEIDELBERG.DE (Pieter Stouten)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: John E. Stith
Date: 14 Aug 92 11:28:57 GMT
Organization: European Molecular Biology Laboratory, Heidelberg

Can somebody provide me with a full bibliography (titles, publisher, 
release dates, ISBN numbers) and/or biography of John E. Stith ?
Ace has published at least 4 of his books:

Scapescope
Memory Blanks
Death Tolls
Deep Quarry (1989) ISBN 0-441-14276-1

I want to have everything that he has written, but at present I only 
have _Deep Quarry_. Attempts to order the rest through the local 
bookstore failed since the publisher replied that they were out of 
print. If you want to sell your John Stith books or if you can direct me 
to places or persons where I might obtain these books, please drop me a 
line. Thanks very much.

Pieter Stouten <stouten@embl-heidelberg.de>

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From: cash@convex.com (Peter Cash)
Subject: Re: _Tigana_ question
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:33:50 GMT
Organization: The Instrumentality
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In article <JEFFT.92Aug18115130@w20-575-76.mit.edu> jefft@athena.mit.edu (Jeff Tang) writes:

>I take a much more symathetic view of Brandin.

>Don't forget that in the end, he gave up the curse that had meant so much
>to him.  Partially out of hatred for Alberico, but mostly he did it for
>love of the the Palm, his new adopted homeland.

Possible mild spoilers follow


Did he act out of love for the Palm--or out of love for his concubine?
(What's her name...it's on the tip of my tongue!) 

But you're quite right--this is one of the things I like so much about
_Tigana_. You can't have a tragedy when the villains are totally evil and
the protagonists totally good. This is because tragedy requires that you
feel a degree of sympathy with the one who falls--but that he must fall at
least partly due to flaws in his own character. If a total schmuck goes to
ruin, you're not moved by it; if a perfect angel falls, then not only do
you fail to feel sympathy--you can't understand why it would happen.

Brandin fulfills well the requirements of tragedy--he's complex, and good
enough to evoke some sympathy, but is ultimately done in by his own
obsessions--the chief one being revenge, as personified in the Fool. The
fate of his concubine is, of course, more tragic still. A heroine undone by
love always earns high marks in tragedy. Sigh. 


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From: IOR@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Thomas Hyer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: AUTHOR POLLS -- Gordon R. Dickson (REPOST)
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:06:06 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Welcome to the author polls.  This week's author is Gordon
R. Dickson.

INTRO to AUTHOR POLLS  (skip if you've participated before):

   Since no two readers can generally be expected to agree
   about the quality of a given author, an overall poll
   like that used in rec.arts.movies would be useless
   except as an incendiary.  However, there is often good
   agreement about which books by a given author are most
   worthy: thus this poll.

IF YOU MISSED AN EARLIER POLL and want to contribute, please
   feel free to DO SO.

BALLOT FORMAT  (read this once):

   You have four votes, one each at +3, +2, +1, and -1. You
   may vote for a work of any length, though you may wish
   to restrict yourself to the form in which the author was
   most prolific.

SAMPLE BALLOT (just a reminder):

   + 3 <vote for at most one work>
   + 2 <vote for at most one work>
   + 1 <vote for at most one work>
   - 1 <vote for at most one work>

SEND BALLOTS TO THIS ADDRESS.  If you prefer multiple choice,
you can obtain fairly complete bibliographies by anonymous ftp
from gandalf.rutgers.edu, in /pub/sfl/authorlists.

LAST WEEK'S RESULTS:

Cordwainer Smith
----------------
 Ballad of Lost C'Mell             +  16
 Dead Lady of Clown Town           +  15
 Norstrilia                        +  10
 Mother Hitton's Littul Kittons    +   7
 Under Old Earth                   +   6
 Best of Cordwainer Smith          +   6
 Scanners Live in Vain             +   5
 Alpha Ralpha Boulevard            +   4
 Crime and Glory..Commander Suzdal +   2
 Instrumentality of Mankind        +   2
 On the Sand Planet                +   1
 Planet Called Shayol              +   1
 Quest of the Three Worlds         +   1
 Space Lords                       +   1
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 Drunkboat                         -   1
 War No. 81-Q                      -   1

PREVIOUS AUTHORS (for listings, EMail to this address):

  Roger Zelazny
  Larry Niven
  C.J. Cherryh
  Jack Vance
  Robert A. Heinlein
  Robert Silverberg
  Isaac Asimov
  Poul Anderson
  Fredrik Pohl
  Philip K. Dick
  Samuel R. Delany
  John Brunner
  Cordwainer Smith
  Orson Scott Card
  Stanislaw Lem
  Ursula K. Le Guin
  Theodore Sturgeon
  Clifford D. Simak
  David Brin
  Arthur C. Clarke
From: IRH@utrc.utc.COM
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Book by Anne McCaffrey
Date: 14 Aug 92 10:52:00 GMT

From:    Irene R. Harrison ( IRH )               Postmark: 14-Aug-1992 06:52am
Dept:    Computer Applications                   Tel No:   8-446-7415

TO:  Remote Internet User                 ( _in%sf-lovers-written@Rutgers.edu )


Subject: Book by Anne McCaffrey

Robert.Turner@brunel.ac.uk (Robert Turner) in answer to:

>      morris@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Ted Morris) who writes:=
>>My wife, a librarian, has exhausted her sources.  She's trying to
>identify
>>for a patron a citation which may be to a short story rather than to a
>>book.
>>
>>The purported author is Anne McCaffrey.  The title is "The Girl Who Loved
>>Dragons."

>The closest for a McCaffrey book is 'The Girl who Heard Dragons', a
>short(ish) story. Can't remember the anthology, but the characters were
>utilised in 'The Renegades of Pern'.

>>Can anyone correct/fill in the citation for us?  Thanks 10^6!

The complete citation for this novella is:

Anne McCaffrey THE GIRL WHO HEARD DRAGONS, 1986, Cheap Street. 96p il,
Boxed, Numbered. Original price $85, ISBN 0-941826-16-3

The original run was probably 200 copies.  This book appears in antiquarian
booksellers catalogues at the $400 range. Your best bet for a reader is to
arrange an interlibrary loan from the Library of Congress, who probably
have a copy.

This is a short story which is alluded to in RENEGADES OF PERN by Anne
McCaffrey. It tells the story of Aramina and her family escaping from Lady
Holdless and being rescued by K'van and his dragon (Kevan was the 'Littlest
Dragon Boy.')

In Anne McCaffrey's Genie Interview, which appeared February 2, 1992, she
mentioned a PERN ANTHOLOGY, which  would possibly include THE GIRL WHO
HEARD DRAGONS.

Irene Harrison
IRH@UTRC.UTC.COM

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From: rob@watney.eng.ohio-state.edu (Rob Carriere)
Subject: Re: Are the Moties us?
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 06:48:55 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.201344.6642@oracle.us.oracle.com> mfriedma@uucp (Michael
Friedman) writes: 
>Has it occurred to anyone else out there that the Moties are really
>not all that different from us?
[...]
>Until something happens to forcibly restrain humn breeding I would
>expect to see a continuing trend that brings us closer and closer to
>the Motie model.
[...]
>Comments?

Yes.  Please explain how come the rate of growth in the industrialized
countries has been somewhere between falling and plummeting for decades.

SR
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From: baylor@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: seeking a Bujold story
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:40:08 GMT
Reply-To: baylor@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California

In article <92232.110420TIP@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>, TIP@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:
>In the July through October 1991 issues of Analog there was a Bujold
>story called "Barrayar."  I managed to miss part of the series and
>was wondering if it was published anywhere else.
>Any recommendations on other good works of hers are also appreciated.
>-Karen

Oh my, are YOU ever in for a treat! Barrayar has been published, is in
print, and is available through the major chain bookstores. No problem!
Ms Bujold basically has a small future history going, as follows:

Falling Free
Shards of Honor
Barrayar
The Warrior's Apprentice
The Vor Game
Ethan of Athos
Borders of Infinity (a short story collection)
Brothers in Arms

To keep this post short, the above is series chonology, which somewhat
resembles the order in which she wrote them. I like the later ones
better than the earlier, though the weakest of the bunch, "Falling
Free" is what I'd term "nice, fun, and simple") Most of these stories
Follow either Cordelia Naismith, or her son Miles.

I'm hoping this isn't the end of the series, myself.

RB
From: Alan.Moorman@f31.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Alan Moorman)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Are the Moties us?
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 03:34:08 -0600

Come on, guys!!!

I just waded through twenty messages, rehashing the same arguments and
none of them had to do with Science Fiction!

Take it somewhere else and give the rest of us some peace!  :)


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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Vinge on A Fire Upon the Deep
Date: 21 Aug 92 05:27:42 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener):
>I'm waiting for the AFUTD paperback, so I haven't read it yet.  Meanwhile,
>I'm wondering how "Blabber" can fit in without being spoiled.  That story
>derived a lot of its impact from the unfolding mystery regarding the Zones
>and the true nature of the Tines.

The short answer is that AFUTD is a spoiler for "Blabber".  If there's a
choice, you're better off reading the short story first.  (Btw, Vinge
says that he's aware of some inconsistencies between the two, but he's
done his best to minimize or rationalize them, and he won't apologize
for those that remain.)

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

   Aphorism is better than none.
From: cozzlab@garnet.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Sequel to The Magic of Recluse - When?
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:32:57 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

In article <DRESNICK.92Aug21125946@ballard1.mit.edu> dresnick@athena.mit.edu (David I Resnick) writes:
>Does anyone know when the sequel to Modesitt's The Magic of Recluse is
>due out?  It says in the back of the book August '92, but I have not
>seen it yet...

OK, in the first place, it's not a sequel, it's a prequel.  I am convinced
that TMoR _needs_ a sequel wherein the kid goes back home and tells them
off for having manipulated him and everyone else in sight, but that's not
what we get.  _The Tower of Sunset_ or some near-approximation to that
title is about the people who founded Recluce some several centuries
before the time of TMoR.  

It is, I'm told, now out in hardback, which should mean maybe paperback
6-9 months down the line.
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From: T_ADAMS@unhh.unh.edu (Tiffany   Adams)
Subject: Re: Melanie Rawn:  Next book?
Organization: University of New Hampshire
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 01:05:42 GMT
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In <5679@transfer.stratus.com> savoia@sw.stratus.com writes:

> In article <1992Aug19.133957.20494@newshost.unh.edu>, T_ADAMS@unhh.unh.edu (Tiffany   Adams) writes:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > 	I've just finished "The Dragon Token" and am once again left
> > hanging on the edge of my seat.  Does anyone know when the next book
> > is due to be out?  
> > 	Thanks in advance...
> > 
> > 			@>-->--- Tiffany
> > 				 t_adams@unhh.unh.edu
> \
> 
> 
> Hold on!  Back up!  Wait a minute!!!!!  'The Dragon Token'???
> Is that the next book after 'Stronghold'?  Did it just come out?
> Come on!  'Fess up!  
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> ========================================================
> Rick Savoia
> 
> savoia@watts.sqa.stratus.com
> rsavoia@beirut.sqa.stratus.com
> Rick_Savoia@vos.stratus.com
> Resav@PernMush
> 
> ========================================================


Yep...."The Dragon Token" is the second book in the "Dragon Star" series....of
which "Stronghold" is the first.  No spoilers here, but I really enjoyed it...
I always seem to get wrapped up in Rawn's characters...I think she does an
excellent job of bringing them to life.  Anyway...as usual, the end leaves
you dangling, desparately awaiting the next book....and so I wait, not so
patiently, for the next book.......anyone care to volunteer a publication
date?? anyone.....??



@>-->--- Tiffany

t_adams@unhh.unh.edu

Synelle@PernMUSH
Brielle@Dragonsfire
LotsOfPeople@Elsewhere
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From: szabo@techbook.com (Nick Szabo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.sf.science,sci.bio
Subject: Re: Are the Moties us?
Date: 19 Aug 92 08:53:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: techbook.1992Aug19.085332.10565
Organization: TECHbooks --- Public Access UNIX --- (503) 644-8135

In article <rwallace.713710067@unix1.tcd.ie> rwallace@unix1.tcd.ie (russell wallace) writes:

>...genes for wanting to have as many children as possible are likely to
>become more and more prevalent as time goes on, simply because people
>who choose to have more children are going to have more surviving
>offspring in the next generation.

It is probable that there is no such thing as "genes for wanting more 
children", and there won't be for a very long time. 

The reason we haven't had such genes is we haven't needed them.  Sex
was a sufficient behavior for initiating reproduction; no other
motivations beyond sex were needed.  This is reflected in our culture,
which expends far more effort on emotions and other matters relating
to sex than it does on matters related to child-bearing decisions.

Only a few generations ago, we started short-circuiting this process
with birth control.  Sexual behavior is no longer sufficient.  With
perfect birth control, a "conscious" decision is required.  What
motivates such a decision?  A combination of complex cultural
and perhaps biological factors.  For a genetic adaptation,
we need an innate emotional response that would somehow override the cultural
factors.  That would be a very complex genetic adaptation, something
that could take thousands of generations to evolve, if it could evolve
at all.  It must start with some existing genetic building blocks,
perhaps those having to do with mother-baby bonds (which now occur
after birth, not in the imagination before conception).

Cultural adaptation operates far more quickly.  It may increase
memetic fitness to co-evolve with a meme that motivates child-bearing
(or it may not; this is not a given).  This could work off the same 
emotions,eg the mother-baby bond.  Just as an example, a small 
increases in the U.S. birthrate accompanied the late 1980's baby movies
("Three Men and a Baby", etc.).  Whether this was cause, effect, or
coincidence is still a matter of speculation.  All in all, though,
cultural changes both in preventing fertility (birth control and
its co-evolving memes) and encouraging fertility will have far more
impact in a far shorter time than any genetic adaptations.


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From: Sarek@world.std.com (Garrett Fitzgerald)
Subject: Re: What are the best fantasy books involving dragons?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:45:13 GMT

In article <8259@orbit.cts.com> ceg@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Chris Galas) writes:
>kwilliam@maclab01.seas.ucla.edu (William Kuan) writes:
>>
>>       Any recommendations on fantasy books involving dragons?

Has Melanie Rawn been brought up yet? The Dragon Prince trilogy is
some of the better fantasy I've read lately. I'd say it's as good as
The Finavir (:-)) Tapestry, but it's not--they're entirely different
works. I don't know if I like the second trilogy, though--it's getting
too depressing for me. :-(
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length and breadth of the Desert."

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a.k.a. Garrett Fitzgerald `:-)
Official Diver of the RFA, 'Chelle's TwinSib, and Donna's OneTrueLove

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From: mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman)
Subject: Re: Are the Moties us?
Organization: Oracle Corporation
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:58:55 GMT
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In article <1992Aug20.013132.21310@u.washington.edu> mkkuhner@phylo.genetics.washington.edu (Mary K. Kuhner) writes:
>In article <1992Aug19.233451.15968@oracle.us.oracle.com> mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman) writes:

>[quoting a claim that pre-industrial families averaged 4-5 children
>survivng to maturity]

>>That seems hard to believe.  If it was true, then just assuming 25
>>year generations it would have taken only 500 years to multiply the
>>population of Europe by a factor of 1,000,000.  Even today there are
>>under a billion people in Europe.  500 years ago there were far more
>>than 1,000.  Where's the hole in the logic?

>This assumes that everyone marries and raises a family.  Poor girls had
>a difficult time finding husbands in societies with dowry customs, and
>many never married; there were also celibate religious of both sexes; 
>and a lot of men died in war in young adulthood, before having children.

>More importantly, it ignores the periodic kill-off cycles, especially
>the Black Death, which reduced the population by nearly 2/3 in some
>areas.  European population *did* tend to increase, but disasters kept
>trimming it back.

>Overcrowding humans tends to lead to famine, pestilence and war, which
>lead to death; the Four Horsemen who keep us from covering the entire
>surface of the planet.  Our cycles are just less dramatic than the
>Moties'.

In other words, if you actually look at things, counting die offs as
well, the average person only had about 1 kid.  That's pretty much
what I was saying.
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From: jc@crosfield.co.uk (jerry cullingford)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: >>>>SEX<<<< and Tolkien
Date: 19 Aug 92 08:57:43 GMT
Organization: Crosfield Electronics, Hemel Hempstead, United Kingdom.

In article <RSHOLMES.92Aug18150734@rodan.syr.EDU> rsholmes@rodan.syr.EDU (Rich Holmes) writes:
"In article <15176@suns6.crosfield.co.uk> jc@crosfield.co.uk (jerry cullingford) writes:
"
""In article <RSHOLMES.92Aug17183952@rodan.syr.EDU> rsholmes@rodan.syr.EDU (Rich Holmes) writes:
"""As for Tolkien, how much sex was there in *anything* being published
"""by mainstream publishers in the 1940s and 1950s? He & his publisher
"""were products of their time. Even so, there's at least one rape and
"""one case of incest in _The Silmarillion_ and/or _Unfinished Tales_.
""
""..Neither of which, as far as I can remember, were published until
""relatively recently? 1970s or 1980s?
"
"If this comment is meant to correct the mistaken impression I might
"have given that _The Silmarillion_ and _Unfinished Tales_ were
"published in the 40's and 50's -- you're right; I think the dates were
"1977 and 1981, or something like that. I should have worded that more
"carefully.

That's basically what I meant :-) Neither are evidence for 50's publishers..
Although I doubt if there'd have been many problems.. Other than whether
the publisher would have thought the book would sell - How popular was
Tolkein when his books first came out?  I think most people would agree
that a lot of people read the Silmarillion because they liked LOTR - I
don't know how attractive it would be as a first Tolkein to read...

"If it was intended to mean that since they were published in the 70's
"and 80's, their sexual (non-)content should be compared to other works
"published in the 70's and 80's, not the 40's and 50's, that's ludicrous.

Agreed. As I've said before, Tolkein's books are good enough in their own
right, without the need to have gratuitous sex grafted on. And most of the
time, it wouldn't fit well with the style anyway.





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From: mkb@cs.cmu.edu (Mike Blackwell)
Subject: Re: Request: James P. Hogan's net.address...
Reply-To: mkb@cs.cmu.edu
Organization: Field Robotics Center, CMU
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:40:43 GMT


Hogan doesn't have a net presence. You can write to him at:
	96 Main St., Bray, County Wicklow, Ireland
When he's state side, try:
	15 Brent Lane, Suite 6-128, Pensacola, FL, 32503, USA
Couple of interesting new books coming out. Finally out of Tom Clancy
clone mode back to "hard" sf...


Organization: Information Networking Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 10:30:58 -0400 
From: "Joshua M. Sabloff" <jsa5+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Orson Scott Card

Excerpts from netnews.rec.arts.sf.written: 11-Aug-92 Orson Scott Card
Gavin Williams@unix1.tcd (200)

> All I can say is that it is a pity that he gave up on the tales of 
> Alvin Maker.  While book 2 was pretty feeble,
> book 3, Prentice Alvin, had the beginnings of a good tale.

Ah, but he gave it up for the "Memory of Earth" series (wait, that's the
title of the first book -- what's the *series* called again?).  If you
haven't read it yet, give it a try.  It's not "Ender's Game", but it's
still a heck of a lot better than some of the other drivel that others
pass off as sci-fi.


-Josh Sabloff (jsa5@andrew.cmu.edu)
"Research physicists need Porsches too!" -- Oliver Wendell Jones
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