From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: "... man tends to be lazy"
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 07:50:18 GMT

ac@riemann.math.mun.ca (Alka Chandna) writes:

>I'm not including the previous postings on this topic because I found the maj-
>ority of them to be far too nasty for my liking.

	Tell it to your mommy, not me.  We've been *kind* thus far.

>  All this discussion on 
>Hoosiers & Iowans doesn't really cut it with me as being the purpose of the
>group.

	*WHICH* group, Alka?  Alt.peeves, perchance?  If you look closely,
you may find it in the Newsgroups line above.  Alt.peeves does not exist to
be nice, supportive, or even to pontificate anything of a moral nature.
Alt.peeves exists to provide a forum for bitching, moaning, flaming, and
generally telling of anything that pisses us off, and is certainly not for
rational discourse.  So far the cross-posting has been something of a
poaching expedition; the residents of alt.peeves consider you so easy to
take that it's hardly a sport any more. 

>On the other hand, there are loads of people who've never even thought of
>issues concerning animal rights

	There are loads of others, like yourself, who've never even thought
of using a RETURN key as well.  In addition, there are loads of people, such
as myself, who have not only thought of issues concerning animal rights,
but have been animal caretakers for years and find the whole issue to be
one of starry-eyes idealists pontificating on how great it would be if just
everybody agreed with them.  "Wouldn't it be great if..."  Yeah, and may
the Swedish Bikini Team have crabs when it parachutes into your picnic.

>For the people who know the issues (health, environmental concerns, animal
>concerns), but don't care about the first two and care even less about the
>third, never say never.

	You're right -- you might become less tiresome were you to give up
and extend the consideration you give to animals to humans as well.

>I think the jury is still out on this one, but I believe that there is alot
>of evidence which suggests that physiologically speaking, humans are much 
>closer to confirmed herbivores than to confirmed omnivores.  Stuff like the
>ph of our saliva, the length of our small intestines, the acidity of the same,
>etc.  Really, I don't care about those issues.

	Then why bring them up?  You forgot to mention the short intestines,
the single and small stomach, the cuspids, the nutrient requirements, etc...
If you believe Thag, just 5,000 years ago, was able to provide a healthy
and balanced diet for himself based upon what plants he found, then I
suggest your grasp of reality could use a firmer grip.

>  My major focus is the fact that
>I can enjoy my life, be healthy & well-satisfied without having to kill 
>beings that demonstratably experience pain. 

	Good for you.  I don't care, and won't bother with such trivial
stuff when I've far more important things to do.

>p.s.: I've noticed a real ugly sort of hostility directed against male AR
>posters, which reeks of "you guys are sissies & probably don't get it enough"

	Well, you are and probably don't.  Don't bother to refute this
assumption -- I don't care enough to bother reading this far into the post,
and besides I'd probably think you were lying to save face.  You can't win.

>Do you think you might want to grow up today or preferably, yesterday?  Or 
>would you like me to give you details on how disgusting meat-eating males can
>taste?  

	Having eaten a fair number, though not of the human variety, I find
the taste to be quite good.  Disgusting?  Not at all.  As for growing up,
I note you're the one bitching about opposing opinions here and calling
for no lapse in voicing your opinions.  Review the Sesame Street episode
(brought to you by the letters C, D, and the number 7) on "cooperation"
and see if you can't find a clue somewhere therein.  That should be
about your speed in these sorts of exchanges.

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