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From: belinda@searchtech.com (Belinda Hoshstrasser)
Subject: Re: Story for someone who wants to say "OH NO!!!!!"
Keywords: uh oh
Organization: Search Technology, Inc.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:08:51 GMT


I have a puppy/dog destruction story.  Although it wasn't
solely from just chewing.

I have some friends who moved into a really nice new house.
The first thing they did was go out and buy a black Labrador
puppy.  He was large from the beginning and got bigger!  I
think he weighs in at around 120 or 130 pounds now -- all
muscle.

They kept the dog in their breakfast area.  There was no 
furniture, but there was a couple of windows, a set of
french doors and the back of their nice wood kitchen
cabinets.  The dog would get bored during the day and
begin playing with his toys.  He threw them around and
chased them about the room.  Unfortunately, he couldn't
always stop on the linoleum and would slide into the walls
or windows -- resulting in broken window pains.  His paws
were enormous and several times he would slap at one of 
his toys, misjudge a bit, and put his paw right through
the wall!  

One day, apparently very bored, the dog even pulled the
linoleum off the floor!

By the time my friends were ready to sell the house and
move to a new one a couple of years later, they had to 
pay several thousand dollars to put down new flooring,
repair broken windows and french doors, refinish all the
wood trim and interior doors, and refinish the backs of
the cabinets.  And this was all just one small room!

Since then, the dog has been to obedience class and is
much better behaved now.

This same dog is not allowed to go to the vet without
being tranquilized first.  He bit the vet's hand once so
badly that it required stitches!

So, as you can see, your friends puppies are certainly
not the first dogs to cause great expense and embarrassment
to their owners!

-- Belinda
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From: sbishop@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Dog Attack
Date: 9 Nov 92 09:49:08 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 


Did anyone see the news report about the woman in Indianapolis who was 
attacked by the two pit bull dogs?  Evidently they were being walked by
their owner, attacked the woman on the street, then the owner and dogs
fled the scene.
From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: gators 'r us
Subject: Re: Common mistake
	<1992Nov3.115732.2862@mtroyal.ab.ca>
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 08:44:40 -0400

In <1992Nov3.115732.2862@mtroyal.ab.ca>, shoran@mtroyal.ab.ca writes:
>You're right about shepherd and shepard, of course, but that's not the only
>common spelling mistake I've seen regarding breed names in this group, but I
>have resigned myself to gritting teeth rather than pointing them out to the
>perpetrators.  It's perhaps forgivable that the rarer breeds find themselves
>misspelt (Kuvas, Komodor, Pulie), but the more popular breeds are too: Huskie 
>(singular), for example; Dashund, Belgium Sheepdogs, etc, etc.  Since I am one
>of those rare people who can spell, I find it irritating, but not enough to
>nitpick.
once upon a time i took my dog to angell memorial(a huge specialist-filled
animal hospital in boston.)  the office they put me in to fill out forms
had a paper on the wall with a notice saying something like "note to
staff: these breed names are often misspelled, please use the correct spelling".
there were a dozen or so names on the list, all correct except for one.  
"dachshund"  had not only been spelled wrong, but *3* different times it
had been crossed out and "corrected", so there were 4 different spellings,
all of them wrong.  when i pointed this out to the technician, she said"it 
doesn't matter, no one ever looks at that anyway."

then the dermatologist told me my plott hound couldn't possibly be a plott 
hound, *even though he'd never seen one or even a picture of one*.  she had 
been a stray, so i couldn't prove it, but i'd entered her in a fun match for
unregistered coonhounds and the judge, a breeder of plotts, had given her
the prize over another dog.  on my next visit i brought a plott breed club
yearbook full of photos, which i donated to their library.  the vet did
apologize after seeing the photos.


-- 
-- little gator aka s. mudgett     email: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine
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From: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: Re: Story for someone who wants to say "OH NO!!!!!"
Comment-To: Belinda_Hoshstrasser@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
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  I guess your friends found the world's most expensive dog kennel. if
you leave a dog alone in a room in time, that room will look like you
kept a dog in it.
--- FMail 0.92
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From: trimpe_b@wums.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: RE: Dalmations
Date: 10 NOV 92 11:16:38 GMT
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER
NNTP-Posting-Host: msnews.wustl.edu

In a previous article, cumquat@phazer.ksu.ksu.edu (Confused's Hubby) wrote:
>Hi there,
> 
>I just gave my wife a Dalmation puppy as a present.
>Now I am getting worried because everyone I talk to says
>that Dalmations are incurrably stupid.
>Anyone out there got an opinion?
>Thanks.
> 
>cumquat@matt.ksu.edu
>cumquat@ksuvm.ksu.edu

	NOT TRUE- my co-worker has two and does minimal breeding(no flames-
he makes sure he has a home for the litter before the bitch is bred). ANY
way he says they are not stupid just very high energy and headstrong.  Many
of the Husky(sp?  SORRY) people on the net had a thread about how stubborn 
their favorite breed is so maybe it's the same.  good luck and keep at it
BT
From: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Breeding is most important for top working dogs...
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:51:57 GMT
Reply-To: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501

Michael George Buening asks:

> Why don't we get to the point, which I thought was
> the importance of careful breeding in working dogs.

I believe that was someone's point.  Mine is the
importance of competent training of working dogs.

-- Jon
--
Jon Krueger  jpk@ingres.com
From: rob@xyzoom.info.com (Rob Lingelbach)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: What human foods should dogs not eat (besides chocolate)?
Date: 13 Nov 92 01:48:28 GMT
Reply-To: rob@xyzoom.info.com (Rob Lingelbach)
Organization: Altruistic Intentions, Hollywood CA

In article <Bx79Ku.1yr@inews.Intel.COM> mmussell@fmgu25.intel.com (Morgan Mussell ~) writes:
>
>She had no sense whatever about cars as I chased her...fortunately the 
>drivers had sense about small dogs. 

This trait is supposedly common to Bichons, though I can't imagine
why.  I can verify that my 3 Bichons were very unwary of cars--one of
them was almost killed twice, running up to it as if it were a
"friend"-- until I trained them to come to me at the slightest hint of
a car in the area.

--Rob


-- 
Rob Lingelbach KB6CUN | 2660 Hollyridge Dr LA CA 90068 213 464 6266 (voice) 
rob@xyzoom.info.com   | "I care not much for a man's religion whose dog or 
robl@netcom.com       |  cat are not the better for it."  --Abraham Lincoln
From: loftis@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kirk Loftis)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:28:34 GMT
Subject: Re: How do you fight a race track?
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs

	Howdy,

	I have heard many people state that dog tracks have their
problems.  But, I was wondering if they are any different than horse
tracks.  

	Some people might get angry at a dog in a "kennel" all day
except for training and racing, but how is this different than a horse
in a stall all day?  How do they differ?  How are they the same?  Why
the glorification of horse racing over dog racing?

	I do not have any experience with either, just curious.....

	Kirk


|     I think we're about to have a dog track built in my
| town (...yes....MY town! :> ) and I want to know how to 
| fight it.  I think that's the most inhumane, asinine thing
| that civilized people can do.  Well...ok...among the top 10.
From: saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Marla Belzowski (K-9's))
Subject: Deaf-Dalmation needs home!
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 00:03:01 GMT



I'm posting this for a friend and a member of our Training club.
My friend Viki just had a baby three weeks ago.  She has a Deaf Dalmatian
named Loki that she has been training for the last two years.  She
has been preparing for the baby for a long time, and thought that Loki
could handle a new comer to the family, but it just isn't working out.
Loki isn't agressive but he is  too rambunctious.  Loki has other problems too.
Loki has seiziours(sp?)  that are associated with a brain lesion.  He isn't
in any pain, but he halucinates or has repeatitive behaviours which he
can not control (like walking in circles, or can't stop drinking).
He is on medication.  He is also deaf.  He has been hand signal trained
and responds quite well.  He is very loving and energetic, but he
does need someone that understands Dals, and deaf dogs.  Lokie is about
2 years old, neutered, and crate trained.  He has been through six owners  
already and Viki is heart broken to have to find anotheer owner.
Viki is willing to meet with the prespective owner and go over
everything that Loki needs, knows, and all other necessary information.
If none can be found, she will have him put down.  If you know of 
anyone interested in a deaf Dal, a rescue group that would take him,
or someone interested in doing a little research on controlling
seizours on dogs please e-mail me at saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu.

Thanks.

----------
Marla Belzowski saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
Mauii Nikki Belzowski CD CGC TDI CERF
Brittish Legend of Beowulf CD CGC TDI CERF  tri-color collies
Legend's Year of Jubilee   5.95 mo. sable and white collie
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From: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
Subject: Re: Help with Shepherds
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:47:28 GMT

> David Paul Encisco writes:
>
> Msg-ID: <1992Nov9.173722.20283@eos.arc.nasa.gov>
> Posted: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:37:22
>
> Org.  : NASA Ames Research Center
>
> kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer)  writes:
>
> >TO: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca
>
> >>if you don't fix it NOW. I have found that German Shepherds do tend to be
> on
> >>of the more destructive of breeds...
>
> >I don't know if they are more destructive than other breeds, but several
> >years ago I had a GSD that I made the mistake of leaving loose for a
> >short period of time
>
> It has been my
> experience (I have -and had- adopted three discarded GSDs) that most
> people don't realize how much attention the German Shepherds require;
> particularly the first couple of years. Now I've never raised a


This is probably an excellent observation. When I think of it, the GSD's that
I have known of which have had destructiveness problems would have been (and
were in the cases in which I was actually able to get through to the owners!)
just fine if given enough exercise and attention. This is SUCH a popular and
easily available breed that people often don't give it much thought at all
before getting one and they think they can leave it out in the yard all day
and not walk it and still have a lawn when they come home :) The GSD's I've
known that HAVE been given the attention and exercise have all been excellent
dogs. There's an interesting contrast between my dobie, who does just fine
with a daily run on which he is VERY active, a daily indoor play session and
a lot of cuddling on the couch, and my girlfriend's GSD who will not run
around much on her own when taken for a walk, but pesters CONSTANTLY for
indoor playing.


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Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca     And fills up all the mighty void of sense.
or:      a4080@mindlink.bc.ca                   - from Alexander Pope's
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Criticism
From: shazam@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Tatoos!
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:13:54 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

I have been reading about tatooing myself and plan to have Min done
as soon as I can.  I called our vet, whom I really trust and Min adores,
and his office charges $30.  $15 is for the actual tatooing and the
the other $15 is for anathesia (spelling).  I personally do not have a
problem with this since *I* do not know if it hurts them or not.
It certainly seems to hurt humanes when they get them *smile* Of
course I do not know if the procedure is the same or not.  Also,
it can probably be stressful and that alone is enough reason for
the anathesia to me.

I have read that the tatoos may eventually fade and have to be done 
again, but that too is worth it to me.  I will probably register
her with both of the organizations, and I have seen ads for them both
in Dog World and Dog Fancy.

My main reason for getting a tatoo is that if she is lost, and
I CERTAINLY hope that never happens, that tatoo will tell someone
that she does belong to someeon, and should tell them that someoen
went to a lot of trouble to make sure she is returned safe and 
sound.....and it si correct that education will assist people in
knowing to cal these tolll free numbers wiht they see a tatoo.
And that my friends is up to us, the dog lovers *smile*

Suzanne

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From: rtorres@convex.com (Randy Torres)
Subject: Re: dog-racing vs. horse-racing
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:52:35 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.


One thing I would like to see done more in animal competition is like what is
done in Three Day Eventing.  After each event your horse is checked by a Vet.
to see how the horse is right after competing.  If the horse is too tired, lame,
or sick, you will loose the race.  This makes it for keeping your horse healthy.If rules like this would spread out to other competitions then animals would
be treated better.  Just think, a greyhound or a horse will loose a race even
if they come in first if and only if the horse is found to be breathing too
hard, or lame.  That would be great, owners would think twice about sending out
a sick horse to race.  I think endurance riding follows the above rules.


Randy
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From: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: Foxhound
Comment-To: Ms_ML_Hong@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
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  You don't see Foxhound kept as a single pet often in this country
either.  No special reason I can think of that they wouldn't make as
good a pet as any other sporting dog.  In the U.S. the German
Shorthaired pointer is a bird dog that is also a popular pet.
  Expect to provide Lots of excersize to Any sporting dog.
--- FMail 0.92
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From: shari@modcomp.uucp (Shari Bernhard)
Subject: Re: Leaking Dog
Organization: MODCOMP, an AEG company
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:27:45 GMT

In <Bx5r75.CwD@mail.boi.hp.com> kmoser@mail.boi.hp.com (Kathy_Moser) writes:

>: Does anybody have a good way to diaper an indoor female dog that
>: has an occasional urinary leak when sleeping in the sun?

>Take her to the vet.  They can rule out a urinary infection.  If it isn't
>that, there are a couple of other options - one of which is DES (estrogen).
>Females, particularly ones who have been spayed, may lose the tone in the
>muscles surrounding the urethra, causing them to leak while asleep.  DES
>helps restore the muscle tone.  You start by giving the pill fairly frequently,
>then work up to much longer between doses (some dogs get to the point of not
>needing it at all any more).  Another option is antihistamine pills, but these
>do not have a lasting effect.  Stop the pills and the leaking returns.  We
>went the DES route and haven't had a leak for quite a few months now.

>				Kathy Moser

My Raven had this problem, for exactly the reasons Kathy stated.  My vet
put Raven on Dexatrim.  The chemical in it that (supposedly) eases hunger
in humans actually causes a dog's urethral muscles to constrict.  Some
dogs only needs a pill a couple of times a week, but Rave needs one at
least 5 days a week.  But it has stopped the leaking, and she's kept
her girlish figure :-) !  It's also a lot cheaper than DES.

Shari (Raven's Mom) Bernhard
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From: ALI00JEV@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU (Judith Van Noate)
Subject: Re: Is fur insulation from the sun?
Organization: UNC Charlotte
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:57:29 GMT

In article <25317@sybase.sybase.com>
karenp@sybase.com (Karen Paulsell) writes:
 
>
>In trying to compare different dogs and their coats, heat tolerance,
>etc., there would certainly be a lot more factors than hair color,
>length, and texture in determining whether a foray into the sun would
 
I don't know if I am actually replying or not (not used to system)
but I saw on PBS (National Geographic special on polar bears) that
their hair is actually colorless rather than white and each hair is
hollow.  The sun can penetrate and the hollow air spaces help to
enhance the insulating effect.  I think white hair on dogs is actually
white.  My short, smooth haired dogs don't like heat or cold very
much and seem to suffer.  They would prefer a constant 75 degrees as
would their "mother."
Judith
>overheat a dog! But...I remember, vaguely, some interesting
>tidbit from long ago reading.
>
>Ever wonder about the hair and coloration of the polar bear? And then
>the panther? If black absorbs heat, and warms, and white reflects, and
>cools, aren't these animals the wrong colors?  Wouldn't the
>warm-climate black panther over-heat? While the polar bears color is
>good camouflage in his climate, wouldn't a darker color help warm him
>up?
>
>In whatever-it-was-I-read, the answer was: the panther's thick black
>coat tends to get hot at the surface, but the heat and the sun's rays
>can't penetrate beyond to the body surface.  While a nice, fluffy polar
>bear snoozing on the ice is actually being warmed by the sun
>penetrating the loose fur.
>
>Dunno the truth of all this, it's one of those things I ponder on
>insomniac nights.
From: ahanson@boi.hp.com (Angela Hanson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: mini rescue story
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:35:33 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

: Three is a legal limit?  I didn't realize that some places HAD legal limits
: on the number of dogs a person could own.  I don't think I like that idea.
: If a person can prove that he/she has the ability to care for a dog, he/she
: should be allowed to choose how many dogs to own.
:  
: Comments, anyone?
:  
:  
:  
There are many places which have covenants which include rules
on how many pets you are allowed to own.  Around here, two seems
to be a popular number.  That means 2 dogs or 2 cats or 1 dog and 1 cat,
but not 1 dog and 2 cats.  The covenants are legally enforcable.
I have seen covenants, in some of the areas we looked for a house, which did
not allow back yard breeders (that was great with me.)

In some areas where houses are on 70 x 100 ft lots, it may not be a bad
idea.  The place we will be moving two has a limit of 2.  (These are houses
on 1.5 acre lots)  In our case, we can have to dogs, 2 cats, 2 horses, or a
mixture as long as we only have 2.
From: betsy@rainbow.uchicago.edu (Betsy Weatherhead)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Common mistake
Keywords: Spelling
Date: 9 Nov 92 03:28:49 GMT
Organization: University of Chicago


My favorite common mistake with respect to dogs used to be the misuse of
the word thoroughbred, as in race horse, when purebred is what is meant.
I especially liked it in the context of:

"Yes, I got a new pet, a thoroughbred and it sleeps at the foot of my bed."

Unfortunately, the word is so commonly misused that some dictionaries are
even including purebred as one of the definitions of thoroughbred.  Too
bad, I loved feeling superior whenever I heard it!


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From: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: Children and CHOWS
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  Sorry to hear about your situation with your mean Chow Chow. Chows
were bred to be territorial guard dogs.  Many are quite mean. The
Chinese didn't breed these dogs to be household pets.
  I don't know if the dog would hurt the baby.  Are you going to
experiment on your own baby?
--- FMail 0.92
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From: rgoldstone@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (Robin, Girl Wonder)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Dog eating cat food.
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:46:31 GMT
Reply-To: rgoldstone@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: oavax.csuchico.edu

In article <BxMoIr.J1y@icon.rose.hp.com>, chapp@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Bill Chapp) writes:
>She had also tried
>adding Tabasco and chili powder to the food, but Grady still chomps it
>down.  Cayenne pepper was very effective at stopping him from eating
>poop when he was just a few months old, but the taste of the cat food
>seems to over power the spice!

I don't understand how the cat could possibly eat the food if she puts that
stuff on it!  Ick.

The easiest way to keep the dog out of the cat food is to put the cat food
somewhere where the dog can't reach it.  Cats can jump up on places that
dogs can't - esp. a small dog like a Miniature Schnauzer.  I keep my cats'
food on top of the dryer in the laundry room.  The cats can get up there
easily.  The dog can't.

-Robin
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