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From: WHITESR@APPSTATE.EDU (Steve White)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: excel 3.0 -> 3.0a? HOW
Date: 29 Aug 92 15:29:17 GMT
Organization: APPALACHIAN STATE UNIVERSITY
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

In <1992Aug27.175044.7853@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu writes:

> In <1992Aug27.133249.18402@ncsu.edu> dnwhiteh@eos.ncsu.edu (DUANE N WHITEHURST) writes:
> 
> >wondering if anybody knows if there's an update script to
> >update ms. excel from 3.0 to 3.0a?
> 
> I've never seen an Excel 3.0a updater, as far as I know you have to order
> a new set of disks from MicroSloth. 
> 
> >i've seen people talk about excel 3.0a and I was wondering
> >what the difference is too but, going on the "updates are
> >always for the best" theory I'd like to upgrade my copy...
> 
> I subscribe to that theory myself but as far as I know only Quadra users
> benefit from the 3.0a update (cache compatibility).
> 
> But hey! You could always just upgrade to Excel 4 instead!
> 
> -Geoff

I believe that Excel 3.0a fixed 3.0's serious problem exporting picts from
Excel to other applications via the clipboard.

Steve
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From: Ladd.Morse@p804.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ladd Morse)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Which packages are PowerPoint's competitors?
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:05:51 -0500

 
  BJ> I've recently been asked to find a good presentation-making
  BJ> application for our Macs.  

Our graphics shop switched from PowerPoint to Persuasion a couple of years ago. 
It seemed much more flexible.
From: ajtd@honey.st-and.ac.uk (Tony Davie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Mac PC Exchange, AccessPC & DOSMounter
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:49:10 GMT
Organization: St.Andrews University

Who knows how to persuade File exchange to format a disk as a DOS disk?
Can it be done?


Tony Davie
From: lac@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Les Carr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: bibliographic databases
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:55:33 GMT

Can anyone recommend a good bibliographic database that will
export the entries in different formats according to the requirements of
various journals and publications. Apparently there is one called
Papyrus which has a Mac version under development, but are there
any others. Thanks!
-- 
L.Carr@ecs.soton.ac.uk               Les Carr
Tel: +44 703 593649                  Dept of Electronics and Computer Science
Fax: +44 703 593045                  University of Southampton SO9 5NH England
From: edgar@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Gerald Edgar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Movie Recorder
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:56:36 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University, Dept. of Math.
NNTP-Posting-Host: function.mps.ohio-state.edu


What version of MovieRecorder is on the QuickTime Starter Kit?
Version 1.0a1 (from the developer's CD) is so buggy I gave up
on it.  JimTV (also on the developer's CD) seems fine, however.
-- 
  Gerald A. Edgar                Internet:  edgar@mps.ohio-state.edu
  Department of Mathematics      Bitnet:    EDGAR@OHSTPY
  The Ohio State University      telephone: 614-292-0395 (Office)
  Columbus, OH 43210             -292-4975 (Math. Dept.) -292-1479 (Dept. Fax)
From: Paco Ojeda <Paco_Ojeda_Gonzalez@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Personal Organisers??
Date: 4 Sep 1992 13:25:48 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation
Distribution: world
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X-XXDate: Fri, 4 Sep 92 14:33:20 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.224540.18791@pbhyb.PacBell.COM> Richard Mossman,
rkmossm@pbhyb.PacBell.COM writes:
>I am assuming the ThoughtPattern demo you are referring to is in one of
the
>directories on Compu$erve. If that is true, which one?

There is also a demo version on SUMEX, in the Demo directory.

Paco

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Graphic Services Coordinator |
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Boston, MA                   |    mine and not Dana-Farber's
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: matsb@tdb.uu.se (Mats Bredell)
Subject: Re: How can one copy an audioCD sound ?
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 07:24:43 GMT

eric@homebase.vistachrome.com (Eric Brunson) writes:
: 1.  The CD player hardware was explicitly designed so that digital sound
: 	data could not be sampled from the SCSI port.  This was done to 
: 	prevent people from easily boot-legging music in digital format.
: 	I know of several audio amplifiers that have digital inputs, but
: 	( and I don't keep up with this stuff ) I don't know of any audio
: 	CD players that have digital output.

I was looking at a CD player (audio only) from NEC two years ago, and I got 
very surprised when I saw the digital output port. The amplifier also had 
a digital input port, and you simply connected an optical fibre between them
(yes, optical fibre!)

Now, what I would like is a totally digital stereo equipment where all the
sound processing and filtering is done digitally. This monster should also
have an optical fibre to the speakers, where all the DA conversion should
be done ...

I also heard that the Quadras with built-in CD ROM drives should be capable
of sampling directly with the sounds control panel, but I haven't been able
to confirm this.

/Mats
-- 
Mats Bredell                                   Mats.Bredell@udac.uu.se
Uppsala University Computing Center (UDAC)
Department of medical systems                  Ph:  +46 18 187817
Sweden                                         Fax: +46 18 187825
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.programmer,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.unix.aux
From: cyor@logos.uwaterloo.ca (                )
Subject: $$$$$$$$$$$$$         WARNING  !!!!!         $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:10:04 GMT



			WARNING !!!!!
 
If you don't want to lose your money, please read the following:


This is in regard to a company called "SECOND WAVE" in Texas, Austin who
claimed that their NB4 Expansion box will allow the IIsi to work with
accelerator card such as the Radius Rocket.


On July 14, I called Second Wave.  They told me that their expansion
for the IIsi will turn the IIsi into a IIci and thus allow it to work
with the Radius Rocket Card.  They also assured me that they have 
customers who have done it before and it works for them.

I felt into their trap and got the expansion box.  It turns out
that they were lying.  I got Radius Canada and two techicians
confirmed that the Radius Rocket is not going to work with the
expansion box.   

I called that company (long distance) and tried to get a refund but 
they said things like "We don't appreciated you!", "you have to pay
for your own decision", "We are not going to give you any refund",etc.

to them. Two weeks ago, they left a message in my answering machine
saying that I CAN GET A REFUND.  I returned it to them but never
heard anything from them since then.  

I called on this Monday and the guy called Roger said that Linda already
put in a credit in my account last week.  I check with VISA center
even this morning but still no refund.  I called again but the 
receptionist refused to let me to talk to others and BLAMED me that
I return the product to them and caused them troubles!
(They lied to me at first and do you think it is fun to call them
 all the time using long distance.  I think they want me to give up!)

After the third call, the receptionist allowed me to speak to Roger
and he got angry with me.  He said they JUST sent out a letter and
gave me credit today.  (Please note he said they did this last week
on Monday already)   They are just playing games and try to make me
impossible to get back the money by postponing all the time. 


Please note that sometime the receptionist said nobody in the office
DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS.  Roger is not the President but today
when I wanted to talk to the President, the receptionist said Roger
is the President. (I am sure he is not. Since Roger said the President
was not in the office a while ago!)


Second Wave sells Expansion box, Optical Disk, Tape drive.
If you have a IIsi, don't feel happy because of knowing there is
expansion box available.  That company is a BIG LIER!
Radius SAID THAT EXPANSION IS NOT  WORKING WITH THEIR ROCKET.


I lost about Canadian $1400 + $70 Restocking on Radius Rocket, lots of
long distance calls, time,etc.

Would any kind people out there please do the following for me?


1)  Please tell your friend of this case.  I don't want anybody to 
    FALL into the trap of this company.  That is not a good company.

2)  Can anybody please tell me what to do in this case?
    Better Business suggested me to get a Lawyer.


Thanks...
From: mlevins@metz.une.edu.au (Martin Levins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Filenames and MSWord 5.0a
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:42:49 GMT
Reply-To: mlevins@metz.une.edu.au
Originator: mlevins@metz.une.edu.au

From article <1992Aug27.000910.4425@megatek.com>, by barto@tsunami.megatek.com (David Barto):
> 
> When you save a file in 5.0(a) for the first time, a dialog box prompts
> for information.  This information is saved in the file (and can be seen
> in the RTF document).
> 
> What I want is to print some of that information as the footer to each
> page.  How do I do that?  I can't find anything in the fine manual.

Look in the Glossary (Edit, Glossary...) and check "Standard Entries"
if this is not already checked.

Scroll thru the list and you'll see things like "keywords", "Author" 
etc



Martin Levins                               Internet: mlevins@metz.une.edu.au
Director of Computing                                     Applelink: AUST0479
The Armidale School                                      Phone: +61.67.738219
Australia                                                  Fax: +61.67.738230
From: cshotton@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Chuck Shotton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: How can one copy an audioCD sound ?
Date: 28 Aug 1992 14:20:54 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Academic Computing

In article <1992Aug28.091048.10022@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE>,
probulf@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Frank Probul) wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> People using Macs or PCs shouldn't have the possibilities to copy CDs in 
> digital quality in this easy way.
> 
> 

Give me a break! What you're saying is that people who have a legitimate
need to work with digital audio, but don't have $100,000 to waste on
unneeded hardware
shouldn't be allowed to do it?!? Who died and made you king? It's a matter
of convenience, not "piracy". Anyone who wants a bootlegged copy of a CD
can get quality better than the human ear can resolve by running the audio
out of a CD and into a DAT. For day to day multimedia production, it simply
isn't convenient to be forced to re-digitize every sample, just to get it
into the computer.

SOME of us live and work in the real world...
From: richard@adpgate.UUCP ( ADP OPuS)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Word publish,PageMaker subscribe!!!
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:57:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: outland.1527
Organization: ADP Dealer Services R&D, Portland, OR


	Just got the new PageMaker 4.2 to use with Microsoft Word 5.0 in 
	my quest to automate publications.  With PageMaker 4.0 I could 
	link graphics that were "Place"able, but I use a LOT of Word 
	Tables.  The only way to get the tables into PageMaker is to 
	convert them into PICT graphics in Word, then cut them through
	the Clipboard.  Of course, PageMaker can't link through the 
	clipboard!

	SOooooo, my publish & subscribe dream...publish the table in Word,
	then subscribe in PageMaker????  IT WON'T WORK.  PageMaker brings 
	it over in pieces as tab delimited data - no more table!

	Welllll, how about convert the table to PICT in Word, then publish
	the PICT table and subscribe in PageMaker????  Close, but no 
	ceeegar.  PageMaker brings it over as an inline graphic, which is 
	supposed happen only if you select the text cursor from the Toolbox.
	Everytime I tried to move the table into position, it would 
	spring back into place presumably because of it's inline graphic 
	status.  I figure if I could get it to be an independent graphic 
	things might go OK, but since its coming from a WORD processor, 
	PageMaker gets the message that is is text (just a guess).

	Some of you may be wondering why I don't just use the PageMaker 
	Table Editor to make the tables?  I investigated that but I need 
	to be able to use multiple fonts and it's not supported.

	Anybody have any ideas or experiences with how to LINK Word tables 
	to PageMaker????  Wisdom????
From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Norton's Utilities 2.0's Speed Disk
Date: 1 Sep 92 12:41:11 GMT
Organization: Naff Green Shorts Dance Co.
In-reply-to: jess@gn.ecn.purdue.edu's message of 1 Sep 92 02:38:05 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.023805.24219@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> jess@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jess M Holle) writes:

   Is Norton's Utilities 2.0's Speed Disk "bug free" now for use under System
   7.0?  If there are any remaining problems, what are they?  Any comments on
   the quality of optimization achieved are welcome.

I've never had any problems with it. It seems to run slowly though (i.e. when
actually optimising) compared to, say, SilverLining.

Nick.
--
  Nick Rothwell, LFCS, Edinburgh | "Say, how many contemporary dancers are
               nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk |     there in this bar?"
CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance | "Dunno; count the Dr. Martens and
     cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk |     divide by two..."
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.apps:14160 comp.sys.mac.system:11609
From: tim@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Looking for FARSI (sp?) font set
Date: 4 Sep 92 08:28:56 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

Hi,

   I am looking for a FARSI (sp?) font set.  I possibly may be interested
in an Arabic system.  Although I think the font set would work better for
this application.  Please e-mail directly.

				Thanks

tim@bvc.edu
Tim Rebnord
System Analyst/Programmer
Buena Vista College
Storm Lake, IA  USA
From: probulf@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Frank Probul)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: How can one copy an audioCD sound ?
Date: 28 Aug 92 09:10:48 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Originator: probulf@hphalle3d.informatik.tu-muenchen.de


|> >How can one copy a sound/song from an AudioCD directly ? (without passing
|> >through the LC, IIsi or Qs' microphone port).
|> 
|> >The idea is to find a app that would sample sounds from an audio CD
|> >through the SCSI port. (saving it in SoundEdit or other format). 


|> 1.  The CD player hardware was explicitly designed so that digital sound
|> 	data could not be sampled from the SCSI port.  This was done to 
|> 	prevent people from easily boot-legging music in digital format.

I agree. There seems to be special hardware in standard CD-ROMS that
prevent copying music via the SCSI port. A few weeks ago I've read an arcticle
about a new CD-ROM for Silicon Graphics workstations with the ABSOLUTELY new
feature top copy sounds via the SCSI-port. But this feature is only available
when connecting this CD-ROM to a Silicon graphics workstation.

The reason they told:

People using these machines needs this capability. If you buy such an 
expensive machine, you're usually not interested in unlegal copying of
music-CDs. Pirates wouldn't buy such a $100.000-machine.

People using Macs or PCs shouldn't have the possibilities to copy CDs in 
digital quality in this easy way.


Frank Probul
internet:  probulf@informatik.tu-muenchen.de

Munich University of Technology
Department of Computer Science
Germany
From: v065hjku@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Jason Osborne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Filemaker Pro bombs in system 7 - advice, please
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:04:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

>We just bought a copy of Filemaker Pro (bundled with MacWrite II and 
>MacDraw) from the local university bookstore.  It runs once, creates a
>"Filemaker temp" folder, then bombs on startup when it runs again.  
>It will run successfully when the temp folder is removed.
> 

It seems to me that FM should work on system 7, even the version you 
have.  Do you have the CLARIS folder in the right place?  

When I upgraded, I called Claris, and they send me upgrades for both
MWII and FMP, and I wasn't even registered in their databases, although
I did send in my cards.. (Which brings up my ONLY gripe about claris...)
I didn't even have the serial number to FMP, but I did for MWII, so
they sent me new versions.  You should just call customer service, tell
them you recently upgraded to sys7, and that you need the latest 
version.  They should be very helpful, if my experience is any indicator

______________________________________________________________________________
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Greg Ferguson <rtmd30@email.sps.mot.com>
Subject: Re: Switching systems
X-Xxdate: Tue, 1 Sep 92 09:01:14 GMT
Organization: Motorola, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 23:59:27 GMT

Subject: Switching systems
From: Bryan Michael Kearney, bk1a+@andrew.cmu.edu
Date: 25 Aug 92 16:21:27 GMT
In article <Yeagu7u00WBL47g0Vn@andrew.cmu.edu> Bryan Michael Kearney,
bk1a+@andrew.cmu.edu writes:
>Does anyone know of a system which can switch the syswtem which will be
>booted off of. Right now I have a drive with two system folders on it.
>My disk drive does not work so I would need to download the files onto
>my drive and switch the system.
>
>-- bk

One of the Apple ATG folks was switching systems by moving the finder
into an embedded folder in the system folder then dragging the
corresponding folder to it's proper level.

Now what we need is a program that does the finder moves ala Extension
Manager.

Regards,

Greg

gregf@shaman.sps.mot.com
rtmd30@email.sps.mot.com
=========================================================
"Never trust a computer you can't throw out a window."
    -- Steve Wozniak
=========================================================
From: kgantz@cup.portal.com (Ken H Gantz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Excel 4.0 Microsoft help system???
Date: Thu,  3 Sep 92 18:06:52 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

I just upgraded to Excel 4.0 and am puzzled by this message
I get from time to time. Every once in a while when I try to
access HELP, I get a requestor which says something like THE
MICROSOFT HELP SYSTEM IS OUT OF MEMORY and then a second
requestor that says UNABLE TO ACCESS HELP. After getting these
requestors, I checked ABOUT EXCEL and find 1.9 megs, of the 2
megs alloted to Excel, available. Once I get the help system
requestor, I cannot access HELP again until I restart Excel.
Help will then work correctly until it decides it doesn't want
to work anymore. The one way I can get the help system to bomb
every time is to ask for a print preview and then ask for HELP.
All of this is taking place on an 8 Meg IIci with no other
applications running. Anybody know what's going on here?
 
kgantz@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: jussi@sics.se (Jussi Karlgren)
Subject: OnLocator
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.apps
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:32:17 GMT

Does anyone know of a system called something like OnLocator, from a
company with the same name? It is supposed to be a route guidance system of
some sort, and may be in use at DisneyWorld - that is all I know about it.

Pls answer by e-mail to jussi@sics.se - I am not a regular reader of
this newsgroup.

--
Jussi Karlgren                                                   jussi@sics.se
SICS                                                    The Sw Inst of Comp Sc
 &                                                                   & 
Inst f data o systemvetenskap 			       Dept of Comp and Sys Sc
och avd f datorlingvistik, 			             Dept of Comp Ling
Sthlms univ 					             Univ of Stockholm
From: lkingsley@crd.ge.com (Lorne J. Kingsley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: excel 3.0 -> 3.0a? HOW
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:55:38 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: General Electric R&D

In article <1992Aug27.175044.7853@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>,
geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner) wrote:
> 
> In <1992Aug27.133249.18402@ncsu.edu> dnwhiteh@eos.ncsu.edu (DUANE N WHITEHURST) writes:
> 
> >wondering if anybody knows if there's an update script to
> >update ms. excel from 3.0 to 3.0a?
> 
> I've never seen an Excel 3.0a updater, as far as I know you have to order
> a new set of disks from MicroSloth. 
> 
> >i've seen people talk about excel 3.0a and I was wondering
> >what the difference is too but, going on the "updates are
> >always for the best" theory I'd like to upgrade my copy...
> 
> I subscribe to that theory myself but as far as I know only Quadra users
> benefit from the 3.0a update (cache compatibility).

NO NO!! You will not be able to copy and paste charts into MacDraw (or any
other drawing package) if you do not have v3.0a. If you try it using v3.0,
all you get is a bunch of lines when you paste, and that's it. This bug was
also fixed by an INIT, Chart Paster INIT, that was written by a guy at
Microsoft to fix the problem. 

> 
> But hey! You could always just upgrade to Excel 4 instead!

My much recommended solution.

> 
> -Geoff
> --
> geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU - Computing Support Consultant, Tuck School of Business

- Lorne

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From: vutien@cenatls.cena.dgac.fr (Vu Tien)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: MS Word Recovery - Possible??
Date: 3 Sep 92 08:26:19 GMT
Organization: Centre d'Etudes de la Navigation Aerienne
Originator: vutien@caros


In article <1992Sep1.071848.859@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, schwim@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Rosebud) writes:
|> moj@risken.vd.volvo.se (Mats-Olof Sander) ponders:
|> >Is it possible to recover the changes to an unsaved MS Word document
|> >after a crash using the temp-files left from the session. The previous
|> >version of the document is undamaged and the temp file contains some
|> >more or less useless data.
|> >Mats-Olof Sander, Volvo Data AB, Sweden
|> 
It happened to me once, a crash while editing a 240K Word document with a lot of drawings
in it.

I located the last "Word Temp" file, noticed that its size is about the size of
my original document. I used FEdit to change the author and type of the "Word Temp"
file to the value of a "true" Word file. Then it opened under Word just as
a normal word document with all my precious data.

vutien.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps