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From: schles@whatever.cs.jhu.edu (Philip Schlesinger)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: FTP Site?
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:45:03 GMT
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD

Hi folks...I'm looking for an anonymous FTP site where I can get and/or put
public domain TrueType fonts for Windows 3.1.  I have many fonts, so if any
one knows of such a place or has an email site, please let me know...Phil

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From: tischer@tischer.Gwinnett.COM (Steve Tischer)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: URW Font CD-ROM
Date: 9 Sep 92 11:18:52 GMT

harper@convex.com (David Harper) writes:

> In article <B54RqB1w164w@tischer.Gwinnett.COM> tischer@tischer.Gwinnett.COM (
> >carlp@hp-vanc.hp.com (Carl Peterson) writes:
> >>   I have before me a short article about a CD-ROM
> >> offered by the German type foundry URW called
> >> TypeWorks.

> >I think the Mac CD is available now and the PC version is coming any
> >day now.  
> >Steve Tischer
> 
> This all sounds very interesting - any idea how to get ahold of this outfit?
> Do they have internet access?  Depending on the price, I might be interested
> in ordering the PC version.

Seems like the entire unlocked CD is going to be about $850 or so.  I do not
see any Internet numbers for URW but here is the address and phone:

URW
Karow Rubow Weber
Postfach 65 01 40
Harksheider Strasse 102
2000 Hamburg 65
Germany

Phone: (040) 60 60 50
Telefax: (040) 60 60 5148
Telex: 2173 462 urw d

There is a sales person Peter Rosenfeld there.  Actually, there is also an
office for URW in the US too but I don't have that in front of my at the
moment.  I can find that later today and get it to you if you would like.

Steve



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Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: jb8285@guinea (Jeffrey R. Brown)
Subject: E Z Read Font
Organization: Medtronic, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:04:27 GMT

Does anyone have any information where I can obtain a font called 
"E Z Read"?  Even if you know where I can get it in a non-computer-based
format, this would be better than nothing.

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7000 Central Avenue N.E.        Voice:    1-612-574-4698
Minneapolis, MN 55432 USA       FAX:      1-612-574-6150
From: mr@ogre.cica.indiana.edu (Michael Regoli)
Subject: Re: URW Font CD-ROM
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:36:07 GMT

carlp@hp-vanc.hp.com (Carl Peterson) writes:
>   I have before me a short article about a CD-ROM
> offered by the German type foundry URW called
> TypeWorks.  The CD-ROM is supposed to contain
> a collection of some 3,000 Type 1 fonts, all
> unlocked, for a reasonable price.

Can you give a little more info on this?  Price?  Address?
Adobe Type Manager/Windows/PageMaker4 compatible?

--
michael regoli
mr@cica.indiana.edu
regoli@iubacs.BITNET
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From: glenn@wheat-chex.ai.mit.edu (Glenn A. Adams)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: Why Unicode is 16-bit
Date: 11 Sep 92 12:26:09 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory


  In article <27776@life.ai.mit.edu> glenn@wheat-chex.ai.mit.edu (Glenn A. Adams) writes:
  >Unicode now encodes slightly more than 21,000 Han elements which represent
  >over 120,000 elements in the source character sets used as the input to
  >Unicode; i.e., the intersection of these source sets contained only 21,000
		      ^^^^^^^^^^^^
  >unique elements.

Sorry, I meant to say union, not intersection.

Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: mortr@windmill.tulip.lmt.mn.org (Mort Rasmussen)
Subject: Re: LaserMaster Fonts
Organization: LaserMaster (Europe), Hoofddorp, Holland
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 20:26:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.235241.11664@eagercon.com> eager@eagercon.com (Michael J. Eager) writes:
>Does anyone know of software which will convert a LaserMaster font to 
>PS (type 3) or to TrueType, and visa versa?  

Assuming you're talking about LXO's you can use FontMonger 1.0.4 (or 
later), to convert LXO's to PFB, PFA (PS) and TT.
If you want to convert QOL's, contact LaserMaster Tech Support.

The other way is a bit more difficult for Type Three fonts. They will first 
have to be converted to Type One's. You can then use the PFBTOLXO provided 
by LM.
The same goes for TT's. Convert to T1, then to LXO.
MortR
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Looking for a font that contains a hexagon
From: David L. Hirschberg <bnhirsch@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il>
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 11:16:35 GMT
Organization: Weizmann Institute of Science, Israel
X-Xxdate: Wed, 16 Sep 92 14:19:26 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7

Hello,

I am looking for a font that contains a hexagon for use in a figure
legend.

Some people that were trying to help me suggested Little Gidding, but I
could only find octagons there.

Please send a copy of your note to my E-mail as I am still experimenting
with this list.

Thank you,

David
bnhirsch@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: pete@speedy.acns.nwu.edu (Peter Zelchenko)
Subject: Re: URW Font CD-ROM
Organization: Black Bag Midwest
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 03:40:23 GMT

By the way, the latest edition of U&lc has a wrapper advertising this
package for $895, plus an ad on page 40.  Aside from the inexcusably bad
display kerning, and the gratuitous use of Beesknees in small sizes
throughout the campaign, it seems like a pretty good deal, if you need
that kind of volume.  For more information, call 800-229-URW1.

The back cover, incidentally, advertises URW's new IKARUS M and LINUS M
as a package for $895.

U.S. address:

URW America
4 Manchester Street
Nashua, NH  03060
Phone 603-882-7445
Fax 603-882-7210
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Newsgroups: comp.fonts,comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: cc_paul@rcvie.co.at (Wolf Paul)
Subject: Re: Windows 3.1 fonts for DOS boxes
Reply-To: cc_paul@rcvie.co.at (Wolf N. Paul)
Organization: Alcatel Austria - Elin Research Center, Vienna
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 07:56:44 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.054732.24456@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> abnous@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Arthur Abnous) writes:
>
>In Windows 3.1, how are the fonts used for DOS boxes different from
>the other fonts? How does one go about creating more fonts for use
>in DOS boxes? I would greatly appreciate any info.

A few observations:
(A) To be used in a dos box, a font needs to be called "Terminal".
	This is not the name of the file (i.e. dosapp.fon), but the name
	of the font(s) inside the file.

(B) The fonts for DOS apps should be of the OEM charset variety, not
	Windows ANSI. Otherwise many if not most DOS apps would display
	weird chars when drawing boxes, etc. or using foreign chars.

(C) Even if you specify a Font Resource File (*.fon) with more fonts
	in it than DOSAPP.FON, your DOS box font menu will not show more
	than about eight fonts (even though the menu looks like it could
	scroll. I tried it, and font #9 and later did not show up on the
	menu.

I have not yet tried to speciy a TT font called "Terminal" -- that 
certainly would be interesting.
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From: apdent@actor.realtime.cs.vt.edu (Tripp Lilley)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: Summary: Image negative to positive algorithm
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:35:18 GMT
Organization: Actor Project @ Virginia Tech

oops.  brain fart.  i was posting to comp.graphics, not comp.fonts...
sorry.
 - t.
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From: churchh@ut-emx.uucp (Henry Churchyard)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: Bitmap Fonts
Summary: garbo
Date: 7 Sep 92 14:18:17 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas

In article <1992Sep5.142822.29108@athena.cs.uga.edu>, heidi@moe (Heidi Thompson Ed. Psyc.) writes:
> I am looking for Adobe bitmap fonts to install on my Macintosh.  Any ideas 
> where I might find them? 

  There are some on garbo.uwasa.fi; here's an example:

Host garbo.uwasa.fi
    Location: /mac/fonts-adobe
           FILE -rw-rw-r--      67567  Jun  6 1990  prestige-elite.sit

Host nic.funet.fi
    Location: /pub/mac/fonts-adobe
           FILE -rw-rw-r--      67567  Jun  7 17:46  prestige-elite.sit
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         --Henry Churchyard     churchh@emx.cc.utexas.edu




Xref: sparky comp.fonts:2606 comp.sys.mac.wanted:8152
From: GJM@Iapetus.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.fonts,comp.sys.mac.wanted
Subject: Wanted: Cyrillic font for Mac SE
Date: 6 Sep 92 17:43:51 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

I'm posting this for a friend w/o net access, as such, please reply via e-mail.

He is looking for a Cyrillic font for use on his Mac SE. Access via
Anonymouse FTP is his first choice (starving grad stu syndrome), having to
plunk down real $'s is a distant second choice - any and all information w/re
this request most welcome.

many thanks,
=greg
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Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: dalton@epoch.Geop.UBC.CA (David Dalton)
Subject: Re: Need font w/ astronomical symbols
Organization: Dept. of Geophysics & Astronomy, UBC, Vancouver, Canada
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 08:24:53 GMT

The directory [ANONYMOUS.TEX.MF.PLANETS]  on ymir (134.173.4.23)
contains mf files and related files for using astronomical symbols
with TeX.

I don't know of any in Adobe or TrueType format, or for the Mac.

Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: pete@speedy.acns.nwu.edu (Peter Zelchenko)
Subject: Re: Serif headline fonts
Organization: Black Bag Midwest
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 19:02:39 GMT

Probably the most traditional use of a serif font as a headline over
serif text is with so-called titling fonts, which usually come in all
caps, and are carefully studied variations on a text font.   Two prime
contemporary examples of this are Zapf's Michelangelo and Sistina, which
were both designed to accompany Palatino.  Setting headlines in one of
these cap-only fonts, with generous letterspacing, is considered very
elegant.  Another one to use, in all caps, is Trajan.

The key difficulty in using a serif font with serif text is one of
generating sufficient contrast between the two.  Besides varying from
regular to bold or increasing the size, there are many other things
one can do to alter the appearance of a text font when using it as a
headline (and I'm not talking about condensing or expanding it).
Reversing into a bar, adding a drop- or drag-shadow, increasing or
decreasing the letterspacing significantly, setting in all caps,
would all serve to create contrast.  Using a font with a different
serif, such as the square-serifed Glypha or Stymie or Lubalin Graph,
over a text font with very round fillets like Times or Baskerville,
also provides tension.

Alternately, you can set headlines in a serif font and use sans serif
for text.  There is a negligible increase in eye fatigue over the long
run, but legibility is not really sacrificed.
-- 
  Peter Zelchenko  pete@speedy.acns.nwu.edu
  Typographer      pete@chinet.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: comp.fonts,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: kudla@acm.rpi.edu (Robert Kudla)
Subject: Looking for TrueType Palatino clone
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 16:44:14 GMT


Hi.  I'm working on a newsletter and would like to set the main text
in a font that looks like Palatino, which I became quite fond of on a
newsletter project a few years ago.  When Win3.1 came out, I picked up
a collection of about 300 fonts from this company in Poughkeepsie, NY
for about $15 at a computer show.  Unbelievably, though, there's no
Palatino clone.  About a dozen variations on Times Roman, but no
Palatino. 

I've looked in the comp.fonts FAQ and looked at all the ftp sites I
can think of (wuarchive, indiana, umich, etc) and none is to be found.
Could someone mail me a TrueType version of Palatino or a clone
thereof, or point me at a file on an ftp site somewhere which contains
said font definition?  I'd really appreciate it; I could wait for
another computer fair and pick one up for probably five or ten bucks
there, or go buy a commercial font set for $30 which would contain a
passable one, but I'd just as soon get one off of the net if I could. 

Thanks.

Rob
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: cameron@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Cameron Smith)
Subject: Re: intro to typography
Organization: none
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 22:27:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.190133.1@cbrown.claremont.edu>,
dhosek@cbrown.claremont.edu (Don Hosek) writes:
>In article <1992Sep4.131308.8368@linus.mitre.org>,
  fkuhl@snare.mitre.org (F. S. Kuhl) writes:
>> I want a basic intro to typography--can anybody recommend a book?
>> I have enough fonts to be dangerous & would like to do them well.
>> I don't expect to duplicate an education in graphic design, I'd 
>> just like to learn the principles.  (There _are_ principles, yes?)
>
>Well, as a beginner's book, _Looking Good In Print_ isn't bad. [...]
[...]
>\item Martin, Douglas. {\em Book Design: A Practical
>Introduction.\/} Van Nostrand Reinhold, New York: 1989. 206pp.
>Along with Jan White's book (see below), this provides a fairly
>complete guide to book design. Martin's book is somewhat more
>conservative in outlook and also reflects his UK background.
[...]
>\item White, Jan V. {\em Graphic Design for the Electronic
>Age.\/} Watson-Guptill Publications, New York: 1988. 212pp.
[...]

These are good choices, but if you're interested in a book about
book design particularly, you must not overlook

\item Williamson, Hugh. {\em Methods of Book Design (3rd edition).\/}
Yale University Press, New Haven: 1983. 408pp.

It is a bit out-of-date as regards technology, but on issues
relating purely to design it is comprehensive and definitive.
Well, I suppose it could be argued that printing technology influences
design -- e.g. some types look fine in metal but lousy in digital
imagesetting -- and therefore a book that is out-of-date in technology
can't really be "definitive" in matters of design either. In any event,
{\em Methods\/} is more than adequate for a beginner's needs.
My paper-bound copy (ISBN 0-300-03035-5) was $13.95; cheap at
twice the price!

--Cameron Smith
  cameron@symcom.math.uiuc.edu
Xref: sparky comp.fonts:2675 comp.os.ms-windows.misc:2962
From: oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for TrueType Palatino clone
Date: 12 Sep 92 22:42:49 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

kudla@acm.rpi.edu (Robert Kudla) writes:


>Hi.  I'm working on a newsletter and would like to set the main text
>in a font that looks like Palatino, which I became quite fond of on a
>newsletter project a few years ago.  When Win3.1 came out, I picked up
>a collection of about 300 fonts from this company in Poughkeepsie, NY
>for about $15 at a computer show.  Unbelievably, though, there's no
>Palatino clone.  About a dozen variations on Times Roman, but no
>Palatino. 

>I've looked in the comp.fonts FAQ and looked at all the ftp sites I
>can think of (wuarchive, indiana, umich, etc) and none is to be found.
>Could someone mail me a TrueType version of Palatino or a clone
>thereof, or point me at a file on an ftp site somewhere which contains
>said font definition?  I'd really appreciate it; I could wait for
>another computer fair and pick one up for probably five or ten bucks
>there, or go buy a commercial font set for $30 which would contain a
>passable one, but I'd just as soon get one off of the net if I could. 

There is no such beast on anonymous ftp.  Many many times has this question
been asked and never has a passable Palatino been discovered in captivity.
Unfortunately, for a decent knock off you'll probably have to shell out a 
few bucks.  The one Palatino clone I've seen was in the atm directory on
ftp.cica.indiana.edu and it really was quite bad.  Believe me, you don't 
want it.  

You can get a Palatino clone if you shell out about forty bucks for a 
package called Typecase.  The screen fonts are /terrible/ but they print
out extremely well on my 24 pin printer.  There's also a Palatino clone in
the Allfonts Business package called Palomar.  I can't tell you anyting
about the second one because I've never used it.

Sharon O'Neil
oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu
From: glenn@wheat-chex.ai.mit.edu (Glenn A. Adams)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: Why Unicode is 16-bit
Date: 11 Sep 92 03:19:45 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory


  In article <1992Sep10.163629.1019@coli.uni-sb.de> ulma@coli.uni-sb.de (Ulrich Mayring) writes:
  >Well, 16 bits are 32768 different characters. Now, I always thought that
  >Chinese alone had over 40000 characters, however only a fraction is taught
  >in school and even less necessary to write basic Chinese. Does UNICODE
  >include only these or is the "40000" number wrong?

When I say 16-bits, I mean a full 16 bits, i.e., 2^^16 = 65536.  Each
character in Unicode and ISO10646 UCS2 is treated as an "unsigned short",
and not as unsigned char [2] with some of the byte values are excluded.

Unicode now encodes slightly more than 21,000 Han elements which represent
over 120,000 elements in the source character sets used as the input to
Unicode; i.e., the intersection of these source sets contained only 21,000
unique elements.

The remaining Han characters which were not in the source character sets are
now being studied for inclusion.  Some of these represent merely font or
stroke variations of a single character.  All of these can be represented
either directly or by using compositional techniques within the remaining
space available in Unicode.

Glenn Adams





Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: flink@mits.mdata.fi (Ari Flinkman)
Subject: TryeType Font Creator
Summary: Font Creator
Keywords: TrueType, font
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:06:12 GMT

        Hi, all

        Does anyone have PD/SW software for Windows or Dos what creates 
        or edits TrueType fonts ? Replies via E-Mail,please. 

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**   Suomi/Finland               **             -ArrowSoft->            **
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Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: rita@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Rita Chang)
Subject: Any font readers who are desktop publishers?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 04:48:50 GMT


Hello there!  i was wondering if any of you font experts were desktop
publishers.  I am very intereted in starting my own DTP freelancing
business and was wondering if anybody here could give me any tips on how to
start or how they started etc.  How one builds a clientelle base....I have
read a few books on this subject.  However I want more information from
actual people who started their own business.

Thanks so much!!!!!
RIta
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: dhosek@hmcvax.claremont.edu
Subject: re: URW Font CD-ROM
Followup-To: comp.fonts
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: 13 Sep 92 23:56:28 PDT

In article <16127200875@MAT.zer.sub.org>, m.schrader@cl-hh.comlink.de (Matthias Schrader) writes:
> CARLP%HP-VANC.HP.COM@UUCP.ZER writes in his message:
 
>>   I have before me a short article about a CD-ROM
>> offered by the German type foundry URW called
>> TypeWorks.  The CD-ROM is supposed to contain
>> a collection of some 3,000 Type 1 fonts, all
>> unlocked, for a reasonable price.
 
> The TypeWorks CD contains only 500 basic fonts (plus the outline-,
> inline-, relief-, shadow- and round-version of each font). The
> quality is very good. URW is in the prepress-market well known
> for there typo-software and tools (e.g. IKARUS). They also works
> together with Linothype-Hell, Berthold, Adobe, ITC, Monotype and others.
> I think, $2400 is a good price for 500 fonts and a NEC-CDR_37_Player.

On the other hand, a few hundred more will buy the Adobe or
Monotype CD with 2000+ real fonts. And a decent CD ROM drive can
be had for about $300 (less if you're willing to sacrifice speed
which if your primary application is loading fonts off CD, what
the heck) so maybe it's not such a good deal.

-dh

Don Hosek                  
dhosek@ymir.claremont.edu  
Quixote Digital Typography 
714-621-1291


Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: markg@county.lmt.mn.org (Mark Gilbert)
Subject: Re: Why Unicode is 16-bit
Organization: LaserMaster R&D, Minneapolis, MN  USA
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 00:29:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.163629.1019@coli.uni-sb.de> ulma@coli.uni-sb.de (Ulrich Mayring) writes:

< text deleted >

>Well, 16 bits are 32768 different characters. Now, I always thought that
>Chinese alone had over 40000 characters, however only a fraction is taught
>in school and even less necessary to write basic Chinese. Does UNICODE
>include only these or is the "40000" number wrong?

16 bits can encode 2^16, or 65536 different characters.  Unicode does encode 
Han (Chinese) characters in the range 0x4000 to 0x8BFF.  This is space 
for 19456 characters.

Volume 1 of the Unicode Standard book describes a plan to merge Unicode with 
a 32 bit ISO standard (ISO 10646).  This forward to the book was written in 
late 1991, and I don't know what progress has been made on this merger.  32 
bits can encode over 4 billion characters, and that ought to be enough 
to encode all languages living and dead.

Mark Gilbert
Newsgroups: comp.fonts