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From: zyang@danskin.berkeley.edu (ZIJIANG YANG)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Leaning
Date: 20 Aug 1992 05:15:36 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Reply-To: zyang@danskin.berkeley.edu (ZIJIANG YANG)
NNTP-Posting-Host: danskin.berkeley.edu

From  - Steve - DoD # 1951
 >I haven't noticed any problems with left hand versus right hand turns, but I 
 >get intimidated by downhill turns. The steeper the turn, the harder time I 
 >have with extreme lean angles. I'm sure part of it is the increased 
 >tendencany to accelerate through the turn,  but I think most of it is 
 >psychological. Most of my peg scraping seems to happen on uphill turns.

When going uphill, it is easier to control your speed by controlling the
throttle.
However when going downhill, most likely you have to use brakes, and it is
a lot harder to turn when braking.

I have noticed the fact that left hand turns maybe harder than right hand turns
maybe also caused by improper handle of the throttle. As when turning to
your right,
you push your right handle bar away, as a result of contersteering, and
this tend to
close the throttle a little bit, which will slow down the bike and make
it easier to turn; On the other hand, when turn to your left, you push
the left 
handle bar out and pull right in, a motion which will open the throttle
and make
it harder to turn. 

My $.02
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| Zijiang Yang                 |   Honda Magna 85 700cc                      |
|                              |   Dod # 582                                 |
| zyang@kuhn.berkeley.edu      |   "When he gets money, he wants to buy toys"|
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Current Harlye Craze and Women
From: YuppieScum@Dollars.more.more.COM (Yuppie Scum)
Date: 19 Aug 92 09:04:35 -0600
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Distribution: world
Organization: fubar

In article <1992Aug18.203433.309@halfdome.sf.ca.us>,
laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott) wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Aug16.000600.1017@msus1.msus.edu>, stafford@msus1.msus.edu writes:
> > 
> > Re: Current Harley Craze and Women
> > 
> > 	It is well known around the world that the typical
> > 	American woman is a materialistic slut.  It only
> > 	follows then that the Yuppie is another invention
> > 	to please them.  Real Men build their own motorcycles
> > 	and they don't include a passenger seat.
> 
> what you obviously don't know about women and yuppies does not
> indicate to me that you necessarily know horsespit about anything
> else important, including building a motorcycle.
>  
> -- laurie
> ____________________________________________________________________
> "Never underestimate the ability of a man to underestimate the abil-
> ity of a woman."                                   --V.I. Warshawski


Ah!  A double negative, laurie.  Match point!

I have been building motorcycles for over two decades.  A gif
of my latest (a gravel scratcher) is in the DoD gif archive,
or should be by now.  And I know something about the 'typical'
American woman.  Having lived in Europe, I feel I have experience
enough to make such comparisons. 

 john
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Current Harley Craze and Women
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:12:34 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 713803311@convex.convex.com, daved@convex.com (David Dorfman) writes:
>
>She looked at the bike and said " If it was a harley I would ask
>you for a ride" 

Maybe her husband just got laid off from GM.
Maybe she was horney and your bike didn't vibrate enough.
Maybe her maiden name was Davidson (daddy owns the store).
Maybe she's just an uptight bitch.

>It appears that Harley 
>owners of recent vintage are just buying a fashionable status accesory.

The black t-shirt, fringed leather crowd are merely a subset of Harley
riders.  While fiercely loyal to the brand, they don't own it, and one
doesn't have to aspire to their taste in fashion or their world view to
appreciate, and ride, a HD motorcycle.

So what if yuppies are buying Harleys?  Good for them, it's more sales
for HD.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: raible@nas.nasa.gov (Eric Raible)
Subject: Re: Chain and sproket question
Organization: Applied Research Office, NASA Ames Research Center
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:13:55
Reply-To: raible@nas.nasa.gov


In article <kgPFPB1w165w@garbanzo.UUCP> mechanic@garbanzo.UUCP (The Mechanic) writes:

   I used to have the same problem with the chain on my '77 Suzuki 550.....

   Within 5000 miles every time (usually less) the chain would once
   again be uneven....

   The one thing I never did with any of them was oil it every few
       ^^^ ^^^^^
   hundred or so miles....

				   Mechanic

Say what?  Keeping a chain oiled is the _most important part_.

Some "mechanic" you must be.

- Eric "I believe in oil" Raible
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mick@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Subject: Re: RE Mr. Small
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:49:21 GMT

Somewhere, Sometime, Thus Spake egreen@East.Sun.COM:
:- In article 9Mn@wpi.WPI.EDU, mick@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan) writes:
:- >Somewhere, Sometime, Thus Spake egreen@East.Sun.COM:
:- 
:- >:- Get a fuckin life, pal.
:- >	if you had paused to read mary shafer's post before responding,
:- What makes you think I didn't?

	your response.

:- >	you would have noted that she made a generalized reference to
:- >	posts from .edu sites 
:- 
:- Which is hardly the same thing as blaming an individual for the actions
:- of her employer.

	no its not the same, but its just as "idiotic" (to borrow a
	term. i would prefer the word trivial).

:- >:- >An idiotic reply to an idiotic comment.
:- >	all he did was point out the idiotic nature of making
:- >	generalized statements based on individual behaviour 
:- 
:- *IF* that's what he was doing, what generalized statement did he make
:- based on Mary's behavior?  Exactly the opposite, he made a very
:- specific inference about her competence, her priorities, and her
:- humanity, based on a generalization, her place of employment.

	the direction is not as as relevant as the illogical nature of
	the inference... to sum it up, the message i got from his post,
	was "its as idiotic to make generalized statements about schools
	(and hence students) based on someone's post as to make
	inferences about ms.shafer's competence.... based on the performance
	of the place she posts from". in his post he also points out
	that it is an idiotic response (the only thing i see thats close
	to idiotic in his post is his failure to tie up his analogy to
	the issue). to answer your question, i did not state that he
	makes a generalized statement based on ms. shafer's behaviour
	(i would have said that if he had said "the nasa is a bunch of
	idiots"). he pointed out the idiotic nature of ms. shafer's post
	(and her inference powers) by making an equally idiotic post and
	inference. now you can be selective in what you view as idiotic,
	but i would rather attribute credibitlity to a person who admits
	to stupidity in an analogy while making a point, rather than
	someone who apparently in all earnestness holds the view that
	posts from educational institutions can as a whole be classified
	as worthless (note that this is my inference about her views
	based on her post).

:- >:- No, just an idiot.
:- >	who?
:- Figure it out.

	i would rather not, considering that usenet is the worst forum
	to base opinions (leave alone judgement) on.

	happy riding,

	- ravi



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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jrwaters@eos.ncsu.edu (JACK ROGERS WATERS)
Subject: Re: Automatics
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 02:48:17 GMT

When I went to take my M.C. driving test (1 day after
the copper pigs made me leave my bike out in a parking
lot - another story), a girl had a Hondamatic 400, 1978
model which she took her test on.  She offered to let
me try it out but I had to be off to work and was running
very late.  The bike looked almost exactly like my
Honda 400 Hawk which is also a 1978 model. 


Jack Waters 
DoD# 1919 (Not stolen)

I keep my bike cover up so the water will not get onto it.
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Cheap BritBike (was: Re: I just acquired a cheap bike!)F
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:58:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Aug14.155847.25576
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <1992Aug13.135437.7773@bnr.uk> datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
>It will be my first Jap-Crap bike for over three years, I was looking for a
>cheap British, German or Italian bike but beggars can't be choosers, can they?

Thanks for reminding me, old bean!

I found this ad in my local newspaper, just in case anyone's interested.
The price sounds a little high, but who knows?

	BSA, 1971 250
	Collectible but non-runner.
	$200.  (708)377-3066


I have no idea who this person is, so if you're interested, talk to
her, not me.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: alavigne@bmerh930.bnr.ca (Andrew Lavigne)
Subject: Compressed air for carb cleaning
Organization: Bell Northern Research
Distribution: na
Date: 17 Aug 92 10:13:10


I am trying to clean my carbs for the first time, and my Clymer manual says
that I should clean out my jets with compressed air.  ok.  However, I don't
have any fancy compressed air equipment, so what can a low-budget 
home repair person do instead?   I was thinking of using some kind of hand-
pump type affair, but I don't know if this would be sufficient or not.

Anyone out there clean their jets without fancy, expensive equipment (and 
without paying some garage to do it as well...)

thanks,
Andrew
alavigne@bnr.ca
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude)
Subject: Re: BMW Service Gouge?
Organization: Office of 'Tude Licensing
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 13:58:42 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.181639.1@acfcluster.nyu.edu>, mullignj@acfcluster.nyu.edu writes:
> What does everyone else pay for their "authorized serive"?  What 
> should I expect to pay for Service I and Service II?

I pay $28/hour for factory authorized service (on my Harley) at 
Harley Davidson Sales, Inc, New Jersey's oldest Harley Davidson
Dealer.  The other dealers in the state charge $45-60/hour and a
few aftermarket butchers charge $65.

Hard to beat $28/hour labor at the dealer...

- Roid
From: stm0@gte.com (Steven McClure)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Popping Them
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:40:52 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham MA


I just wind the turbo up through first and hammer second hard, and it
usually has the expected results (unless the rear tire breaks loose, then
it just puts down rubber 'til I let off. :-) )  Only at the track of course...

-- Steve

-- 
   Steven T McClure     '84 GPZ 750 Turbo pilot        stm0@gte.com or
GTE Government Systems         DoD #0425              stm0@bunny.gte.com
  Needham, Ma. 02194            /*  Insert standard disclaimer here. */
Beta software: 'beta than nothing, and that's usually all it is...
From: jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: There's hope for me yet...
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:44:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpfcso.9900962
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

In rec.motorcycles, nat@drao.nrc.ca (Natalie Prowse) writes:

> They tell me Marg turned 60 this year.

I went on my last trail ride with a gentleman who is 68 years young.  He
couldn't get enough of the tight rocky, log-strewn, narrow trails.  When I
started running out of time and suggested that we by-pass a section of
single track trail, he convinced me to go ahead and ride the whole length.
I'm glad I did. 

-Jeff Deeney-  KotD #0000  DoD#0498    NCTR    '88 XR600-Shamu   
jld@hpfcla.fc.hp.com       AMA#540813  COHVCO  '81 CB750F-Llamaha 
We don't stop riding because we get old, we get old because we stop riding.
From: joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: traffic battering rams (was Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters)
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:03:16 GMT
Reply-To: joe@mpd.tandem.com
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Austin, TX.

]when approaching a light with cars already stopped in front of you,
]get behind the vehicle which is most likely to move off the line
]quickest. usually this means one driven by a high school- or
]college-aged male.

around here the stoplight leader of choice (if it can't be you) is the
metro bus. I kid you not. people clear the lane behind the buses thinking
that they don't want to get stuck behind THAT thing. the catch is, those
metro drivers run those things at redline coming off the light. I'm 
surprised they don't spin at least one of the 6 or so drive wheels.
in true Domino's form, they are usually the vehicle with the higest
average speed. while the other cages are clogged in the other lanes,
the bus us ahead of the pack in short order making for easy passing.
luckily most are equipped with roof vented exhaust, minimizing the
period of oxygen depravation associated with driving behind a diesel
bus.

-- 
Joe Senner                                          joe@zx11.cactus.org
Tandem Computers Inc.                               joe@mpd.tandem.com
From: ramarren@apple.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:57:53 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: Apple Computer

> "Craig" == Craig Hamm <hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca> writes:
> 
> Craig> 	I felt like starting to put the sidestand down at the light,
> Craig> and make 	like I was going to approach the cage.  But,
> Craig> better judgement 	prevailed (arghh), and when the light
> Craig> went green, I left him 	far-away-ville.  I suppose if I was in
> Craig> the states, I could've just 	shot him?

They are animals. Don't trust them. Don't believe them. Just shoot them.
========
Godfrey DiGiorgi | ramarren@apple.com | DoD #0493
"Logic may be the beginning of wisdom, but logic never bought
 me a Ducati."
 Rule #1: Never sell a Ducati.
 Rule #2: Always obey Rule #1.
Honda VFR700 Intercepter 1987, "Bright White"
Ducati 750GT             1975, "Thunder"
Ducati 250 Mk III Diana  1966, sleeping beauty
Toyota MR2               1985, "VSSC"
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: efw5565@zeus.tamu.edu (Evelyn - gorgeous red-headed biker babe...)
Subject: Re: Automatics
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 22:52:00 GMT

Just a little addition about automatic road bikes:
When I first went looking for a motorcycle, the very
first dealer I talked to tried to sell me some enormous
(well, it seemed that way at the time) bike that was
an automatic.  Didn't seem to think I could handle
a standard transmission.  The next shop I went to,
the dealer tried to sell me one of those pseudo-mopeds,
I can't remember the model name, you know, the tiny
50cc Yamaha sport-bike-miniature-toys.  
       "this right here is whatcha need, little lady,
       you're not planning to drive it far, are ya?"
ARG!!!
When will motorcycle dealers stop assuming women are less 
capable of riding a *real* motorcycle???  And any other
women out there notice how if you walk into a shop with
a guy, you become invisible?  Amazing.
       "OH!  You mean the bike is for HER??"

Screw 'em all - I bought mine from an individual.  

Evelyn
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jimb@access.digex.com (Jim Brooking)
Subject: Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters
Organization: National Commitee to Keep Slower Traffic Right
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 18:04:52 GMT

In article <14101@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:
>
>In article <1992Aug14.153146.16745@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>, hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca (Craig Hamm) writes:
>|> 
>|> 	I felt like starting to put the sidestand down at the light, and make
>|> 	like I was going to approach the cage.  But, better judgement
>|> 	prevailed (arghh), and when the light went green, I left him 
>|> 	far-away-ville.  I suppose if I was in the states, I could've just
>|> 	shot him?  
>|> 
>|> 	What would YOU do ?
>
>Just what you did . . leave him in the dust . . get away from him.
>

Ditto...  I'm convinced some people just don't KNOW what a typical
bike is capable of.  

--
jimb@access.digex.com  | (Cage) 1991 323se     ZCP-710   |     Comus Road
Merry Land (MD) U.S.A. | (Bike) 1986 GSXR750    (sold)   |     ClarksBURG
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           GE: We lay off the people who bring good things to life.
From: bowers@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Al Bowers)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Centre, High-Mount Brake Lights (was: Headlights)
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:21:40 GMT
	<BOWERS.92Aug10121152@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov> <BssMwz.3Lo@gtsi.com>
	<BOWERS.92Aug11132418@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov>
	<1992Aug11.213302.3806@javelin.sim.es.com>
Organization: NASA Dryden, Edwards, Cal.

In article <1992Aug11.213302.3806@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:

>Things could be worse, remember Jimmy Carter's gift to motorcyclists?
>DOT chief Joan Claymore^H^H^H^Hbrook? Remember motorcycle roll cages,
>and the backwards "safety" cycle that couldn't be ridden?

It wasn't too many years ago that the Right Honorable Senator Danforth
(R-Missouri) tried to get a bill passed in the senate banning all
"bullet" bikes from the market.  All because his 16 year-old son
decided to perform some ballistic bodywork to an idiot cager when said
cager pulled in front of said senator's son.  And you thought Dick
Floyd was bad...

BTW, it should be noted that Danforth made most of his empire on the
dividends of the Sears Corporation.  Seems his family owns a
substantial share of Sears.  Anyone still buying Craftsman tools?

--
...ignoring the fact that most Alfas spend their time cruising for
chicks, most Datsuns being washed and most Porsches in parking spaces
marked "Doctor"...              -Henry N. Manney III, Road and Track
Al Bowers                                 bowers@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov
From: tavares@danville (Jack Tavares)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Turning (NOT about Countersteering!)
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:03:08 GMT
Reply-To: tavares@ctron.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4


I noticed something about my riding skills on the BRP on
my return from the RCR. I was wondering if anyone else
had this problem.

First, i am relatively new to the MC world.
This is my first year with a MC, although
since april I have managed to put on about 8k miles
on three different bikes. 

Anyway, I find that I can turn better going right 
than I can going left! Is this just inexperience?

Has anyone else had this (?)problem? It seems
to me that I seem to judge right turns better than left.
In right turns I seem to be able to pick my entry speed
and lean angle better than on left turns. Hard left turn
always seem to require an adjustment in lean angle and/or
throttle.

1 person I talked to said that the problem might be 
exagerated by the fact that I ride a boxer. He said that
the rotation of the engine (clockwise) causes the bike to
naturally lean to the right, making left turns a little
more tricky. Any comments?

Since i haven't seen anything like this before, i though
i would mention it and see if anybody had any ideas.


Jack Tavares    KotHO  
DoD# 0570	BMWMOA# 58278	AMA# 651191	BMWRA#  16087
83 R80ST	79 KZ LTD 400H (for sale) 
Sorry, but at DoD minimum speed it is impossible to speak. There is just 
too much wind noise.  At that speed I am spending all my concentration 
allowance on riding, and cannot afford anymore thought for words.
However, when I finish a ride and the bike is in the garage cooling down, 
the single word that comes to mind is:

    BEER.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson)
Subject: Re: Going into the closet
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:51:17 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.065639.2393@ncsu.edu> jrwaters@eos.ncsu.edu (JACK ROGERS WATERS) writes:
>
>DoD#1313
>Man, I gotta start using drugs or something.
>
>Jack Waters
>
Yeah, maybe you should.  Since:
1313:Tom Johnson::tjohnson@std.MENTORG.COM


It seems like 1313 is already taken.  Maybe you should go back and
read the FAQ again, figure out who the KotL is, and wait for him/her/it
to give you your number...


-- 
| Dean Cookson / dcookson@mitre.org / 617 271-2714    | DoD #207  AMA #573534 |
| The MITRE Corp. Burlington Rd., Bedford, Ma. 01730  | KotNML  /  KotB       |
| "If I was worried about who saw me, I'd never get   | '81 CB750C            |
| nekkid at all." -Ed Green, DoD #0111                | '88 Bianchi Limited   |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: vec@sunshine.Kodak.COM (Vance Cochrane)
Subject: Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 12:32:03 GMT

In article <17AUG199217231937@che.udel.edu>, howie@che.udel.edu (Ian Howie) writes:
>10 ft? 10 FT?? No way! What you need is a headlight upgrade. Get rid of that
>55/60 watt jobber, and get one of them 80/100 or 90/130 watt units. You can
>follow at SEVERAL car lengths and still throw shadows of the occupants on the
>road in front of the car.
>
Get lives people, he said he was in *front* of the car!!!

-- 
+------------------------------------------------------+
+ Vance Cochrane                Email: vec@Kodak.COM   +
+ Research Laboratories	        Voice: (716) 722-3709  +
+ Eastman Kodak Company	        Fax:   (716) 477-8681  +
+ Rochester, NY 14650-1826      DoD #: 0643            +
+ USA                           '91 CBR600F2           +
+                                                      +
+ "Didn't think I had it in me Spock, did you."        +
+ "No Sir."                                            +
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jackr@thorodin.dazixco.ingr.com (Jack Reed)
Subject: Re: Ersatz (this is German) Protective Gear
Reply-To: jackr@thorodin.dazixco.ingr.com
Organization: Dazix
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:57:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.150131.7359@aber.ac.uk>, azw@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Michael Woodward) writes:
> 
> In my never ending quest for cheaper, better alternatives to the poser 
> discowear sold to bikers, it occurred to me - has anyone ever road 
> tested forestry workers chainsaw gear? This stuff is seriously 
> impressive on paper!

I spent one summer wear testing ballistic nylon chaps for the Colorado State
Forest Service. While I agree that they will stop a full tilt chain saw blade
in it's tracks, I doubt you'll encounter too many out on the highways and
byways. The main drawback to them would seem to be the fact that they would
probably melt at DoD approved minimums. They would also require additional 
padding to absorb shock since they are fairly thin (~1/4"). It seems to me that
Andy over at Aerostitch has already considered the material worthwhile and
incorporated it (ballistic nylon) into his designs.

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles