From: gurgle@netcom.com (Pete Gontier)
Subject: Re: Fuck You All
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 06:31:16 GMT
Organization: cellular

hugoglez@well.sf.ca.us (Hugo Gonzalez) writes:

>It has been scientifically proven
>that black people are not as smart as white people, something to so with
>the size of the brain or genetics.  Do not flame me for this, as this is
>accepted as FACT in the scientific community.

Whoa! It's true that there were some studies about brain weight many
years ago. However, those studies *never* established that brain weight
had anything to do with intelligence. It was the *intent* of those
studies for people to conclude that black people were less intelligent
because their brains weighed less. Hell, I don't even know if the data
these studies gathered was well-controlled or any of that; someone will
likely pop in here with many many details. But it's for damn sure that
raw data like this, no matter how accurate it might or might not be, does
not establish things about sweeping concepts such as "intelligence."

>If you don't belive me,
>look around you.  Look at how many balck people are on welfare.  Compare
>that to the number of white people on welfare.  The statistics will prove
>it.

Statistics, as you will learn in any first year stat class, prove nothing.
Absolutely nothing. Proof is an entirely different thing from statistics.
I won't bore you with the details; find a book in your local library
which may have a title like "Scientific Reasoning."

>Now you can choose to ignore the facts, or you can accept them.  I am not
>saying white people are superior, just smarter (genetically).

Many people would judge superior intelligence to be superiority. I don't
think you can get out of responsibility for the bad things in your
claims with this line.

>How many black people have become president?  Zero.

How many women? Zero. How many homosexuals? Well, probably more than
we know, but let's say for the sake of discussion zero. Most surprising,
to me, anyway, is this question: How many Catholics? One. JFK. What does
this tell you about your statement? That Catholics are stupid? Or
that they have lifghter brains? How about this one: by and large, the
voting public is xenophobic. Just a wild guess.

>White people will always have
>the upper hand.  Its a fact of life we must learn to live with.  I
>don't like it any more than you do (I am NOT white, I am hispanic).

It may be true that white people will always have the upper hand.
However, that doesn't have anything to do with the character of
African Americans.

>The way I see it, this is the intelligence scale of races, smartest
>at the top...

You're serious about this, right? I think you must be working from
a really, shall we say, *different* definition of "intelligence."

>I am right in the middle, so I am not that far above black people, so
>don't give me shit about it.

I will never understand the urge to be average. I guess people are so
terrified of failure that they're willing to settle for mediocrity
instead of success.

>That does not mean the people near
>the bottom of the scale are destined to clean toilets all their lives.
>I spent 8 years in medical school and am now a practicing physician.

How on earth did they let you escape medical school with such a
horrendous ignorance of basic basic science and psychology? I don't
buy it. Somebody must have stolen your password.

>If I can do it, thjen so can everybody else.

No, not everybody can. Not everybody is smart enough, or rich enough,
or persistent enough. But all of these things have little to do with
race.

>Being black or hispanic is kind of like being mentally handicapped.

Being a racist, not being of a race, is kind of like being mentally
handicapped. No, I take that back -- it *is* being mentally handicapped.
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 Pete Gontier // EC Technology // gurgle@netcom.com
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