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From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.editors,comp.text,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Help! Need to interface typewriter to a PC.
Date: 11 Jan 93 07:02:10 GMT
Followup-To: comp.periphs.printers
Organization: Elegant Communications Inc., Ottawa, Canada

In article <1993Jan8.125234.26255@dmp.csiro.au> lachlan@dmp.csiro.au (Lachlan Cranswick) writes:
>phr@telebit.com (Paul Rubin) writes:
>
>>You've got to be kidding.  You can get 45 cps Diablo printers with
>>serial interfaces for $50 or so at flea markets.  A friend of mine
>>pulled one out of a dumpster 5+ years ago.  Throw your typewriter away.

>Not neccessarily.

>Sometimes, a nice crisp letter made with a typewriter
>is a lot more impressive than a cheap dot matrix printer
>with fan fold paper,
>or a second-hand printer from a flea-market that might work..

How quickly they forget.  A diablo is not a dot matrix printer.  The
diablo produced the highest quality output available on (reasonably)
inexpensive printers (read: "non-mainframe") prior to the advent
of laser printers.  Print quality as good or better than the then
comparable IBM Selectric typewriter.  Multiple fonts too.

Furthermore, buying PC interfaces for a typewriter is probably
a mistake, because few typewriters are designed for the heavy
duty bashing that they'll get from a computer.  On the other hand,
many diablos were specifically intended for high-volume Office WP
shared-printer applications and could bang out stuff day-in-day-out.

The problem with Diablos these days is that they've slipped far
enough back into history that some ribbons and daisy wheels
are no longer stocked in the ordinary office stationary stores.
To buy ribbons for my Hytype-I mechanism diablo, I have to buy
them in cartons from a place in another city, and print wheels are
very limited in selection these days.  Hytype-II's are still
moderately common.

Servicing is a bear.  Diablo was bought out by Xerox, and except
for some of the very last models (ie: 630/1630), they're no longer
reliably servicable.  My 1530 caused the techies to flee in panic.
[Can't say I blame them.  My diablo weighs about 200 pounds, and
has a 10 slot S100 cardcage with an 8008 to control the durn thing.]

Most of the suitable diablos are type-writer-like devices with
keyboards.  If you encounter one, try it out as a typewriter.
If it's cheap, and the mechanism is still doing a good job
printing as a typewriter, why not?  If you can, buy a second one
for spare parts.
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From: tome@cs.umr.edu (Tom Erb)
Subject: HP Laserjet 4 printer drivers found
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 05:09:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla
Keywords: HP Laserjet driver
Originator: tome@mcs213h.cs.umr.edu

Thanks to all for the help in locating the windows driver for the hplj4.
It is available from ftp.cica.indiana.edu as hp4win31.zip in the directory
/pub/pc/win3/uploads/DEC92 .

Tom Erb

Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: phr@telebit.com (Paul Rubin)
Subject: Re: Help! Need to interface typewriter to a PC.
Followup-To: comp.periphs.printers
Organization: Telebit Corporation; Sunnyvale, CA, USA
	<1993Jan8.125234.26255@dmp.csiro.au> <4122@ecicrl.ocunix.on.ca>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:03:17 GMT

In article <4122@ecicrl.ocunix.on.ca> clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) writes:

   The problem with Diablos these days is that they've slipped far
   enough back into history that some ribbons and daisy wheels
   are no longer stocked in the ordinary office stationary stores.
   To buy ribbons for my Hytype-I mechanism diablo, I have to buy
   them in cartons from a place in another city, and print wheels are
   very limited in selection these days.  Hytype-II's are still
   moderately common.

You might try re-inking the fabric ribbons.  Also, The Printer Works
in Hayward CA has all kinds of Diablo parts and supplies (wheels
etc.), probably everything you could want, but at somewhat high prices.

   Servicing is a bear.  Diablo was bought out by Xerox, and except
   for some of the very last models (ie: 630/1630), they're no longer
   reliably servicable.  My 1530 caused the techies to flee in panic.
   [Can't say I blame them.  My diablo weighs about 200 pounds, and
   has a 10 slot S100 cardcage with an 8008 to control the durn thing.]

I don't remember even a Hytype-I weighing *that* much, but if you say so...

Diablos were pretty rugged.  It's true that they're hard to repair now,
but on the other hand if you get one that's not too worn and don't
use it too heavily it might never break.

One area where Diablos still have it over laser printers is printing
multipart forms, through carbon paper etc.  Even for this, though,
Diablos are fading because the output of heavy duty dot matrix printers
looks so much better than it used to.
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: dianee@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Diane Eyre)
Subject: HP Deskjet 500
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 21:06:53 GMT
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College


I have an HP Deskjet 500 that I would like to use on a
SPARCstation.  However, HP doesn't support Unix for this
printer.  Does anyone know what an entry would be in the 
/etc/printcap file for the Deskjet?  Is it even possible
to use it with Unix?
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: boogman@vptt.ch (Jan Boogman)
Subject: HP Deskjet 550C and Mac
Followup-To: poster 
Organization: Swiss PTT Research and Development Department
Location: Berne, Switzerland
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:12:23 GMT



I just bought the new DeskJet 550C color printer for use with
my PC. Now I would like to use the color features also for my Mac II, but I 
don't get any Mac-drivers for this printer...
If anybody knows of a suitable driver, special printer cable and dipswitch 
settings please mail or tell me where I can get it.
Any help is appreciated.

P.S. I'm perfectliy aware of the fact that there exists also a Mac-version
     known as DeskWriter 550C...

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From: zz1bb@impending.ucsd.edu (Barry Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Refilling inkjet cartidges w/ permanent marker ink?
Keywords: deskwriter deskjet refill ink inkjet
Date: 13 Jan 93 04:39:58 GMT
Distribution: usa

I've just read the FAQ on refilling inkjet cartridges and an alternative ink
popped into my mind.

At my local art supply store (in my case, the University Bookstore), one can
buy bottles of refill ink for giant permanent markers.  The manufacturers of 
the markers provide the ink and the markers themselves have screw-on tops that
allow new ink to be poured in when the marker runs dry.

You've probably all seen this kind of ink before: it's very permament and
stinks.  The bottle of ink runs about $2 and has about as much ink in it as
standard bottle of, say, India ink.  I don't think the ink has any
particulate matter in it that could clog an inkjet nozzle as India ink
would.

Has anyone tried using this kind of ink to refill a cartridge?  The FAQ says
that original HP cartidges use a special permanent ink that isn't publicly
available.  The inks described in the FAQ as being suitable for refilling
are all water-soluble.  Could HP be using permanent marker ink in its
cartidges?

I'm about to try using this ink, but I wanted to check if anyone else had
successfully used it.

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From: tom@ohm.york.ac.uk (Tom Whitehouse)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Wanted: Recommendations for HP LaserJet II PostScript cartridges
Date: 12 Jan 93 12:22:01 GMT
Organization: Electronics Department, University of York, UK

I am looking at upgrading a HP Laserjet series II to support PostScript
and have found 3 cartridge-based solutions:
	Pacific Page
	JetPage
	Adobe Postscript

Does anyone have any experience with these or other solutions. I am
particularly interested in performance figures and compatability with
PostScript generated from Windows & Apple Macs.

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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: rgc3679@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Robert G. Carpenter)
Subject: GCC BLP Printer - Replacement Toner Question.
Organization: Boeing Computer Services
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:04:44 GMT

I've got an original GCC BLP (4 yrs old). I've always used GCC
toner, with no problems other than expense. I found some cartridges
that work at the BizMart made by a Kentucky company called Nu-Kote
that sell for 1/2 of GCC's price (GCC= ~ $26, these are $13).

The problem is there is a splattering of toner on most sheets now.
Kinda makes the output look like it came from a copier. Usually the
splattering is in one area (upper left, 1st couple inches).

My question: Is there a quality difference in toners? Or is this
just a coincidence?

How can I correct this?

Thanks for your help.

Bob Carpenter
From: bwong@csulb.edu (Bradley Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: Price of Postscript (HP LaserJet 4)
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:35:04 GMT
Organization: Cal State Long Beach


>	About how much does it cost to add postscript to 
>	a stock HPLaserJet4?  

   I picked up the PS SIMM for $325 in Los Angeles, which appears
   to be about rock-bottom right now.

   Then you need either a 4Mb or 8Mb SIMM at fluctuating prices.
   (to get up to at least 6Mb from the stock 2Mb RAM).
From: EBY@lexmark.com (Kevin Eby)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: Color 11"x17" plotter
Date: 4 Jan 93 17:54:21 GMT
Organization: Lexmark International, Lexington, KY
X-Disclaimer: These views are the poster's and not necessarily those of Lexmark

In article <116@mipps.myapc.com>
haskins@mipps.myapc.com (Robert D. Haskins) writes:
 
>
>We are looking for a color output device which has the following
>characteristics:
>
>        1. able to do color mixing (beyond basic 8 colors, not just a pen
>           plotter)
>        2. table top
>        3. 8.5"x11" and 11"x17" with seperate input trays, preferably dual
>        4. parallel/serial input (both, but not necessarily concurrent use)
>        5. Postscript and HPGL/2 compatible
>
 
   The IBM 4079 Color Jetprinter PS would fit your bill with the
   exception of the dual input trays.   The printer just recently
   won Best of Show at Comdex.
 
   If you need more information, just send me a note.
 
Kevin Eby                             eby@imaging.prtdev.lexmark.com
Lexmark International
From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: FOR SALE:  HP PostScript Cartridge
Date: 10 Jan 93 13:21:08 GMT
Distribution: comp.periphs.printers
Organization: Panix Public Access Internet & Unix, NYC

In article <EGHARBAW.93Jan9212746@dante.nmsu.edu> egharbaw@nmsu.edu (Eihab Gharbawi) writes:
>Greetings,
>
>I have a brand new, still in static bag HP PS cartridge.
>
>If interested, please make an offer.

I'm not interested (I have one) but feel it necessary to point out that there
have been at least five varieties of the "HP PS cartridge". Each has certain
compatibilities with HP models. You should state the model number (like
33439Q).


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From: craig@bunsen.rosemount.com (Craig Taylor)
Subject: Re: Canon BJ300 verus HP DJ500 (How do I prints GIFs??)
Followup-To: craig@rosemount.com
Organization: Rosemount, Inc.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:47:19 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.210958.3504@cc.umontreal.ca> southiea@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Southiere Alain) writes:
>
>   But for this little incovenience, You get really cheap color 
>printing ! I printed a few GIF's and was really impressed with the
>quality of printing. Of course, it's not like a picture in a magazine,
>-- 

I just purchased a HP500C. 
What is required to print color GIFs ?
Any methods, however circuituous appreciated.

-- 
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craig@rosemount.com
Work (612) 895-2254
Home (612) 454-4994

Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: beck@enterprise.den.mmc.com (Fred R. Beck)
Subject: PS2HP
Organization: Martin Marietta
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:33:56 GMT

Hey!

Does anyone know of a PD PS to LaserJet filter?
Appreciate any help.

Thanx,

	-fred

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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: doug@kentek.com (Doug Bonnell)
Subject: Data from HP Ethernet Printers? hpnet.post
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:21:43 GMT
Organization: Kentek Information Systems

     Hope the HP people can give me some insight on the following. Thanks in
advance :-).

     Does any data come back from an HPIII or HPIIIsi on ethernet? The
support documents for our JetDirect card on an HPIII indicates that data could
come from the printer via the default data port. I've been able to get data
from the printer via SNMP, but have not seen any data at the data port.

     References in the 'HP JetDirect Developer's Guide' and the source for
'hpnpf' suggest that it is possible to receive data from the HPIII that has
the 'JetDirect' card installed. This data comes via port 9100 (the default port
for the JetDirect card). My questions are:

	1. Does the JetDirect card originate messages back to the host, or
	   is it merely passing data from the printer back to the host?

	   If the printer originates messages to the host, which models
	   (HPIII, HPIIIsi, etc.) do this?

	2. How does one configure the JetDirect (or printer) to send data
	   back to the host?

	3. Where can I get information on the data being sent back to the
	   host? I presume it would be something useful, such as:
	   "printer jammed", "out of paper", etc.

     The source for 'hpnpf' shows that data from the printer is only logged to
the log file (if active). There does not appear to be any parsing of received
data.

					Thankyou,

					Doug Bonnell
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From: booloo@framsparc.ocf.llnl.gov (Mark Boolootian)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.unix.sysv386,comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Need recommendations for laser printer (<= $1K)
Date: 6 Jan 93 21:40:37 GMT
Followup-To: comp.periphs.printers
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

I've got a 486 system running both DOS and Unix (BSD/386 from BSDI).  I am
looking to buy a laser printer and can spend around a thousand bucks (give
or take a hundred).  I need HP Series II or III compatibility for some DOS 
applications I have and I would like the ability to print postscript.  I'm
not interested in color.

Can anyone make some suggestions as to what printers I might look at?  I'm
fairly ignorant about what is out there (I've seen laser printers from
Panasonic, Epson, and Brother all under a grand - are there gotchas with
any of these [don't have model numbers at hand]).  I have heard the HP III
laserjets may come down in price since they are being discontinued - comments?

Any help is appreciated.  I would prefer email and will be glad to summarize 
if there is any interest.

regards,
mb
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Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:40:15 EST
From: <HAGERS@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: imagewriter to pc

i wonder if an apple imagewriter printer can be connected
to a laptop pc? and if so..how much and how hard?
has anyone done this? let me know thanks
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: manacsa@l13ff.jsc.nasa.gov (Gerry Manacsa)
Subject: Declaser 1152 PS opinions?
Organization: Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Co.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:23:35 GMT

Does anyone have any experience with the DecLaser 1152 Postscript Level 2 
laser printer?  I recently saw a DEC ad in MacWeek advertising this unit at
$999, which immediately attracted my attention...
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: phr@telebit.com (Paul Rubin)
Subject: Re: Question: LaserJet motherboard upgrade
Organization: Telebit Corporation; Sunnyvale, CA, USA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 09:37:59 GMT

There are all kinds of controller replacements etc. for the LJ II
available.  Check the computer rags.  Also, call The Printer Works
which I think is in Hayward, CA.
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: ahroot@boi.hp.com (Andy Hill)
Subject: Re: Magnetically encoding checks using laser printers
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:40:45 GMT
Distribution: na
Reply-To: ahill@boi.hp.com
Organization: LaserJets by Bill & Dave
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

L. Jack Wilson (ljwilson@martha.utcc.utk.edu) wrote:
> I realize an ordinary laser printer (with the proper software) could
> physically print the routing-info, but my understanding is the toner
> must be magnetically-encoded for banks and clearing-houses to process
> it.
> 
HP markets magnetic toner cartridges for the LJII & III family.  A number
of refillers also supply magnetic toner.  Ain't cheap, 'tho.
From: sid@vdhc.on.ca (Sid Van den Heede)
Subject: Re: Magnetically encoding checks using laser printers
Organization: Van den Heede Computing, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 02:54:57 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.162522.19063@utkux1.utk.edu> ljwilson@martha.utcc.utk.edu (L. Jack Wilson) writes:
>...
>I realize an ordinary laser printer (with the proper software) could
>physically print the routing-info, but my understanding is the toner
>must be magnetically-encoded for banks and clearing-houses to process
>it.
>
>Does such a printer in the PC world exist? ANY info would be appreciated.

May such printers exist.  I wrote "the proper software" (in PostScript) to 
do just that, using a plain vanilla PostScript printer.  (The printer this
client used was a QMS PS810.)  All they needed to do was find a source of
magnetic toner.  There are companies who specialize in doing this, too,
one using an HP LaserJet II (same engine, different PDL).

They submitted samples to various banks for testing.  In testing, they
were far more picky about tolerances than you might think, given the
lack of tolerances in the cheques that they provide for you and me.
But regardless of tolerances, they were able to read them.

The key is just to find a supplier of magnetic toner.  They exist...I
just don't know where the client gets theirs, off hand.
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From: bdaniels@rock.concert.net (Brian L Daniels -- Personal Account)
Subject: What can be done with an original HP Laserjet
Organization: CONCERT-CONNECT -- Public Access UNIX
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 03:48:15 GMT



What sort of upgrades are available for an original HP Laserjet?
Can it be made into a Plus or higher? Memory Expansion? Etc?

Any pointers to sources/ideas appreciated.

Thanks,
Brian

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From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari)
Subject: Price of Postscript (HP LaserJet 4)
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:54:09 GMT


	About how much does it cost to add postscript to 
	a stock HPLaserJet4?  

	(I'm not just looking for a price on the HP SIMMS,
	but also alternatives--like PacificPage)

	Memory requirements?
 	(open ended for PS, I know, but "reasonable"==?)

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From: jogl@merry.imib.rwth-aachen.de (Joachim Glaubrecht  #Alwd#)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: PS2HP
Date: 12 Jan 1993 11:38:50 GMT
Organization: Institut f. Med. Statistics @ Dokumentation
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In article <1993Jan11.233356.19726@den.mmc.com> beck@enterprise.den.mmc.com (Fred R. Beck) writes:
>Hey!
>
>Does anyone know of a PD PS to LaserJet filter?
>Appreciate any help.
>
>Thanx,
>
>	-fred

bingo, you have won the "FAQ-of-the-Month"-Price:

The right answer is:    G h o s t S c r i p t .


 
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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: rypma@waterloo.hp.com (Ted Rypma)
Subject: Re: Is HPDJ500 OK for infrequent use? Should I buy?
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:30:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HP Panacom Div Waterloo ON Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

craig@bunsen.rosemount.com (Craig Taylor) writes:

>I am thinking of buying a HP Desk Jet 500 for use with an
>IBM PC.  It would be used at home, infrequently, say every
>other week, and then for maybe 20 pages.  Most common use is 
>for Word Perfect output.  I want to be able to use
>cut sheets, which is why I am looking at the HPDJ500.  My wife
>may want extra font capabilities.
>
>Are there any problems with the HPDJ500 if only used infrequently?

I do exactly what you mention, using a DJ500C. The printer came with a little
cartridge storage box (for 1 color and 1 black ink cartridge). If I'm not
going to use the printer for a week or so, I simply pop the ink cart. into
the box - when next turn on the printer, i insert the cartridge I want.

So far, I have not had an ink problem (dry-out, blotching, etc.) in close to
a year and a half.

Regards,

Ted Rypma
HP Panacom Division
Waterloo, Ontario
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: rypma@waterloo.hp.com (Ted Rypma)
Subject: Re: Help! Need to interface typewriter to a PC.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:19:52 GMT
Organization: HP Panacom Div Waterloo ON Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Paul Rubin (phr@telebit.com) wrote:
: 
: You might try re-inking the fabric ribbons.

Fabric ribbons on Diablo's turned out some pretty lousy looking copy. Now,
carbon film ribbons... clean, crisp, professional looking and absolutely
unbeatable output quality, as long as the print wheel wasn't worn.

Former Diablo user (with sore arms from carrying the things :-)

Ted Rypma
HP Panacom Division
Waterloo, Ontario
Newsgroups: comp.periphs,comp.os.msdos.misc