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From: despair@netcom.com (Scott Hanson)
Subject: Re: I have too much slack
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 22:37:06 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Summary: Somebody has too many 'o''s

In article <plonk> djd33237@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (anon) writes:
>Jeremy_Reimer@mindlink.bc.ca (Jeremy Reimer) writes:
>
>>I have so much slack, I'm literally GIVING it away!
>
>Wrong!
>
>By admitting that you have slack at all causes you too loose it. So therefore
>you have none to give away.

Throwing away an 'o' causes one to lose slack.
-- 
Scott Hanson		This has been a recording.
despair@netcom.com
From: sp2q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stephen Brent Peters)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Subject: wierd connections
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:37:55 GMT
Organization: History, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

OK, so the other day we're at Myke's place needing to watch a movie.  I
pick out two with little thought: Indiana Jones & the Last Crusade and
Apocalypse Now, both of which I've seen before.

So, in Indiana Jones there's the sequence where Indiana breaks into a tomb
in Venice and is chased by a group of men pledged to protect the secret of
the holy grail.  As it happens these men have a tatoo on their chests that
sure as hell looked just like the Psychic TV symbol.  Maybe I'm too ignorant
of it's beginnings.

Then we watched Apocalypse Now, which, aside from Harrison Ford playing a bit
part, reminded me of a comic piece I'd read months ago in a mag from Britain
called _Vague_.  The piece was the author travelling by bus to Stoke Newton
to interview Genesis P. O.  Genesis, natch, being the deranged leader of
a tribe of crazed followers who've lost the bounds of reason- the psychic youth.This was all very tongue in check, but kinda made my bow tie spin around anyway.


ooyeah, dobbs head's all over the mag
From: gorilla@cats.ucsc.edu (Joe Mama)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Subject: HAIL ERIS! PinealNet Revival.
Date: 30 Sep 1992 20:10:05 GMT
Organization: THE ALL NEW PinealNet SERVER AT GORILLA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


After weeks of war with the AISB, the PinealNet 
has been taken back. email for info.
From: nedelman@spacm1.spac.spc.com
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: Backrub Exchange?
Date: 6 Oct 92 12:12:40 PDT
Organization: Bank America Systems Engineering, Pasadena, CA

In article <1992Oct5.175331.23299@octel.com>, richard@octel.com (Richard Karasik) writes:
> In article <1992Oct1.232736.26279@newsgate.sps.mot.com> wolfson@regatta.sps.mot.com (Stephen Wolfson) writes:
>>So is there a list of usenetters willing to swap backrubs/massage?
>>It could be listed by city/geographic area.  If not I'm willing to put
>>together a list and post it as an FAQ.  
> 
> Curious- I already started doing this several months back and have gotten only 4
> responses on the net -it seems like this group was created by some spurious
> spontaneous combustion of neurons -rather than a lot of real members!!!
>  or long time massage afficionados !! At any case a list would be nice, but people
>  have gotta wanna play !
>  Richard
> -- 

Well, I don't remember seeing it or I would have replied then!

However, for the current list:

Name: Dean Nedelman
Location: Los Angelees (San Fernando Valley)
Specialties: swedish
Gender: Male
Gender willing to exchange backrubs with: Both (Although Female preferred)
Email address: nedelman@spacm1.spac.spc.com
-- 
Dean (The Shadow)
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From: Darren.Hanson@f271.n103.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: QUESTION
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992
Date: 02 Oct 92  17:11:00

lagouge@ufrima.imag.fr (LAGOUGE pierre jean) asked:

 > What is this group ?

You could as easily ask, what is the true meaning of life. For
then I would have simply answered, "A good backrub."
__
\/  Darren Hanson

---
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: sdt8s@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Steve Tilson)
Subject: Guidelines/Techniques?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 03:40:24 GMT

I'm currently enrolled in a drama class in which I am required
to give and receive one backrub per class meeting. :-) I can't
really afford to buy any how-to books and I don't have time for
a class; can anyone help me with pointers and/or instructions
regarding technique? E-mail only, please--this includes any "me
too" posts this request may generate.

Thanks,
Steve
--
It's not denial...                         *******************************
I'm just very selective                    *  Steve Tilson               *    
about the reality I accept.                *  sdt8s@poe.acc.virginia.edu *
                  Calvin                   *******************************
From: dl@cockatoo.bellcore.com (Daniel Liebster)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: Backrub Exchange?
Date: 6 Oct 92 03:33:57 GMT
Reply-To: dl@thumper.bellcore.com
Organization: Packet Communications Research Group (Bellcore)

Too bad Ohio and NJ aren't next door neighbors!

In article <1agb2gINNlu@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, sxc45@po.CWRU.Edu (Sharon Cates) writes:
|> 
|>      Being a newbie to this whole newsgroup thing, and being a
|> graduate student with one nasty stress problem in my back, who
|> does enjoy giving the occasional backrub and is looking to learn
|> more about giving them, I think that a exchange list is a marvelous 
|> idea, but that's just little old me.
|> 
|>                                  Sharon
|> 
|>    The most popular labor saving device is still money.
|> 
|>                                   -Phyllis George
|>
From: Darren.Hanson@f271.n103.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Backrub Exchange?
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992
Date: 02 Oct 92  18:25:00

wolfson@regatta.sps.mot.com (Stephen Wolfson) suggested:

 > So is there a list of usenetters willing to swap backrubs/massage?
 > It could be listed by city/geographic area.  If not I'm willing to
 > put together a list and post it as an FAQ.  My suggested format
 > would be

Name:           Darren Hanson
Location:       Orange County, CA
Specialties:    Enjoying life
Gender:         Male
Gender willing to exchange backrubs with: Both, but I tend to have
                very stiff muscles thus requiring a fair amount in
                the person providing the backrub.../
email address:  darren@ofa123.fidonet.org

 > comments, suggestions?
So, when do I get my first decent backrub in the last 10 years?
__
\/  Darren Hanson

---
From: icsip185@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: Backrub Exchange?
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:19:18 GMT
Reply-To: icsip185@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University

In article <1992Oct1.232736.26279@newsgate.sps.mot.com>, wolfson@regatta.sps.mot.com (Stephen Wolfson) writes:
>So is there a list of usenetters willing to swap backrubs/massage?
>It could be listed by city/geographic area.  If not I'm willing to put
>together a list and post it as an FAQ.  My suggested format would be
>
>Name: (Joe/Jane Smith)
>Location: (New York, Bay Area, Whatsamatta University etc.)
>Specialties: (as masseur/masseuse, i.e. swedish, shiatsu etc.)
>Gender: (M/F)
>Gender willing to exchange backrubs with (M,F,Both) 
>email address: smith@hot.oil.com
>
>comments, suggestions?
      
 		This idea sounds great to me. If there is any progress please
contact me. I love backrubs. 
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: nautilus@lachesis.acm.rpi.edu (John M. Twilley)
Subject: Database Entry / Comments
Organization: The Voice of Fate
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 04:20:01 GMT

Here is my data for the database:

Name:      Jack Twilley
Location:  Mystic, CT (~50 mi SE of Hartford)
Gender:    Male
Specialty: Relaxation, stress relief
Prefers:   Equal opportunity, if they rub back. :-)
 
I would be interested to get a copy of the list mailed to me, for
reference purposes... (I travel occasionally, and this would be
a great way to meat net.people, and get some stress relief...)
 
I enjoy the occasional reciprocated backrub, but the greatest
effect for me is in the administering.  I can lose myself and work
out a lot of stressful energy into relieving someone of back/foot/
neck/hand/whatever pain....  Usually better than the returned 
favor. :-)
 
Jack.
-- 
John M. Twilley             | It's only premarital sex if 
nautilus@acm.rpi.edu        | you're going to get married.
twilley@dewey.nusc.navy.mil |                --anonymous
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: arnett@unixg.ubc.ca (Bill Arnett)
Subject: Re: What is this group?
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 12:07:58 GMT

In article <BvG5ox.5vx@ufrima.imag.fr> lagouge@ufrima.imag.fr (LAGOUGE pierre jean) writes:
>What is this group ?

It's "alt.backrubs" of course!  What group did you think you were posting
to?

Seriously, though, why don't you just read it for a while and decide for
yourself?  (The quick summary is: a place to discuss all aspects of 
NON-SEXUAL massage.)

Bill.
-- 
Bill Arnett                            Internet: arnett@unixg.ubc.ca
From: Darren.Hanson@f271.n103.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Convention Announcement
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992
Date: 01 Oct 92  23:21:00

Dan the Man <DED110@psuvm.psu.edu> wrote:

 >  Hmmmm...science fiction backrubs....  What a concept!
 > So, could someone fill me in on what I've missed?  What was it that
 > a.backrubs has to do with this convention and vice versa?  I'm sure
 > there's some huge relevance, but I must have missed it the past few
 > days.  Anyone?  Anyone, Beuler?  Didn't think so....

I don't know either, but I'm still trying to find a newsgroup
that the notice did NOT appear in! (Moderated groups don't
count.)
__
\/  Darren Hanson

---
From: djackson@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Dwight T Jackson)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Info/help
Date: 4 Oct 92 16:06:57 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: uniwa.uwa.edu.au
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

G-day touchie people,

I have a few questions on massages.As I love to touch/feel But do not know
much about massage ,as in relieving pain and discomfort.I am interested in 
maybe some text to read OR a good book with proven techniques that are easy
to learn. Also maybe someone has a list of oils that one can use for massages
or other things.My wife and I do give massages <But niether of us know what we
are doing exactly.We try to please and thats the MAIN thing but with alittle
mo knowledge on the subject we could please even more and haver more fun too,well at least they might last longer(massages). Myself I have chronic lower back
problems ever since a car accident in my teen years that still bothers me,my 
wife is mostly tension in the neck area But we do tend to rub ALLLLL over ;^)
I'm interested in certain parts ,locations to apply pressure etc.... Any help
would be apprecited .

Thanks
DJ
From: 21329KAD@MSU (Kim Dyer)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: Convention Announcement
Date: 6 Oct 92 01:57:56 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University


>>  Hmmmm...science fiction backrubs....  What a concept!

I've given and received LOTS of non-sexual backrubs at SF cons.
Many even have panel discussions on how to give good backrubs.
(Just picked up a tip on using glycerin mixed 50/50 with water
at a con.  Felt REAL good.  Cleaned up REAL easy.  Might need
to try it myself soon.)

>I don't know either, but I'm still trying to find a newsgroup
>that the notice did NOT appear in! (Moderated groups don't
>count.)

Yeah ... I noticed that too.
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: icsip185@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Subject: Re: QUESTION
Reply-To: icsip185@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 22:17:31 GMT

In article <BvG5ox.5vx@ufrima.imag.fr>, lagouge@ufrima.imag.fr (LAGOUGE pierre jean) writes:
>What is this group ?
If you don't allready know the answer to that you never will. At least I know I
will never know what this group is!!!
From: sxc45@po.CWRU.Edu (Sharon Cates)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: Backrub Exchange?
Date: 2 Oct 1992 02:10:24 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


     Being a newbie to this whole newsgroup thing, and being a
graduate student with one nasty stress problem in my back, who
does enjoy giving the occasional backrub and is looking to learn
more about giving them, I think that a exchange list is a marvelous 
idea, but that's just little old me.

                                 Sharon

   The most popular labor saving device is still money.

                                  -Phyllis George
From: jamie@csd.uwo.ca (J. Blustein)
Subject: Re: What is this group?
Reply-To: jamie@uwo.ca
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 00:23:34 GMT
Followup-To: alt.backrubs
Summary: Bzzz.  Thanks for playing, try again.
Keywords: alt.backrubs charter

In article <1992Oct2.120758.4862@unixg.ubc.ca> arnett@unixg.ubc.ca
(Bill Arnett) wrote:
>In article <BvG5ox.5vx@ufrima.imag.fr> lagouge@ufrima.imag.fr (LAGOUGE pierre jean) writes:
>>What is this group ?
>[...]
>Seriously, though, why don't you just read it for a while and decide for
>yourself?  (The quick summary is: a place to discuss all aspects of 
>NON-SEXUAL massage.)

    This group has carried discussion of erotic massage before and I
expect it will once again.  alt.backrubs has carried long discussions
about massage techniques and oils (purchasing, mixing, dangers of,
appropriate use of, etc.).  There are also frequent postings
requesting backrubs and there have been serious exchanges about
licensing.  Some people even talk about books about massage here.

-- 
James Blustein                                        `Did you say "knives"?'
<jamie@uwo.ca>                                        `*Rotating* knives, yes.'
From: ST201434@brownvm.brown.edu (Hey Jude)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: backrubs
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 23:11:36 EDT
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: brownvm.brown.edu
News-Software: BNN via BNN_POST v1.0 beta

     Just to save everyone the aggravation of reading that mindless drivel yet
again, I've left the citation at the *end* of my post.

     I'm really wondering about the mindset of this individual.  Obviously he
doesn't think of a massage as a strictly sexual experience, or else it
would not be appropriate with family (well actually... ;-)  )   but at the same
time, it's not okay for friends.  I also wonder about the distinction between
someone who is "YOUR BOYFRIEND OR GIRLFRIEND" as opposed to someone who you are
only "...TOTALLY IN LOVE WITH..."  etc....   The way I see it, is that this
person would be more comfortable on alt.sex.massage or something like that.

     Dammit, when I typed reply, all I could think of was really obnoxious
things to say to this guy, and basically what I thought of people with that
kind of attitude in general.  But that seemed to end up ruder than I like to
be, so I hope this all gets some sort of point across.

     MASSAGE IS NOT ABOUT SEX.  don't be so damn closed minded, please.

     thank you.

                                                  -jude

So we cheated and we lied and we tested,
And we never failed to fail- it was the easiest thing to do...
                                -CSN

In article <1992Oct1.111141.1@vax.sonoma.edu> lane@vax.sonoma.edu writes:
>I strongly agree with you on this particular subject of backrubs.  I
>feel that if your going to give a person a backrub or massage, that
>person should either:
>
>     A. YOUR BOYFRIEND OR GIRLFRIEND.
>     B. SOMEONE THAT YOUR ARE TOTALLY IN LOVE WITH AND WOULD'NT MIND
>        IF ONE THING LED TO ANOTHER.
>     C. IF IT WAS A MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY AND YOU KNOW THAT NOTHING
>        WILL HAPPEND.
>
>Backrubs can sometimes make a person get in a very sexual mood that
>could be very dangerous to the person who is massaging.  I can
>reacall a time when I was giving someone a back massage when she
>started blurting out all type of romantic gestures as if I was really
>turning her on, but to me she was only a friend.  She then told me
>that I was really sexy and romantic young man I that I was just a
>tease.  I had no ideal that I was turning this youn lady on but
>instead I was.
>
>To sum this short little reply up; never start something you can;t
>finish because you can hurt yourself as well as others.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:14:18 EDT
From: Dan the Man <DED110@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: Convention Announcement

     Hmmmm...science fiction backrubs....  What a concept!  So, could someone
fill me in on what I've missed?  What was it that a.backrubs has to do with
this convention and vice versa?  I'm sure there's some huge relevance, but
I must have missed it the past few days.  Anyone?  Anyone, Beuler?  Didn't
think so....

                                           Dan the Man
                                           J.R.C. Prez
                                       (aka "The Big JeRC")
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: backrubs
From: bthomas@nim.gac.edu (Barbara L Thomas)
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:41:01 -0600

In article <1992Oct4.194811.4273@pellns.alleg.edu>  writes:
> 
> In article <1992Oct1.111141.1@vax.sonoma.edu>, lane@vax.sonoma.edu wri
> > I 
> > feel that if your going to give a person a backrub or massage, that 
> > person should either:
> > 
> >      A. YOUR BOYFRIEND OR GIRLFRIEND.
> >      B. SOMEONE THAT YOUR ARE TOTALLY IN LOVE WITH AND WOULDN'T MIND 
> >         IF ONE THING LED TO ANOTHER.
> >      C. IF IT WAS A MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY AND YOU KNOW THAT NOTHING 
> >         WILL HAPPEN.

I just thought that I would be one of the several who are going to write  
in to disagree with you.  It's attitude like that that make it difficult  
to ever give a backrub without someone reading more into it.  I give  
backrubs all the time to people of both sexes.  I do it because I'm good  
at it, have strong hands, and have been practicing on my family for years  
and know a lot of "knacks."  People generally appreciate the effort I put  
in to alleviate problems.  I've given backrubs to my boyfriend even with  
sexual overtones. (I'm not saying that it doesn't happen; I'm saying it  
depends on the situation and the way the bacdrub is given.)  If you have a  
continuous problem with people taking your backrubs the wrong way, look at  
how you're doing the backrub and check what your attitude is going into a  
situation.  I'm not saying it was your fault, people sometimes get the  
wrong impression, but don't let it take you over the edge into thinking  
that a backrub is a committment to anything more than a backrub.

--
Barbara L. Thomas
"The World may never know."
bthomas@nic.gac.edu
From: saj@po.CWRU.Edu (Sherri A. Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: what? (part TWO)
Date: 27 Sep 1992 19:12:10 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: saj@po.CWRU.Edu (Sherri A. Jones)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


Sorry on the wait there for part two. I had a 5mw, leftm then
realized I had some homework I should be doing. Oh well, I'm
here now, and I still have to finish that homework! Tee hee

The next part is where you might want to use some more lotion. 
Ok, see the warm, paddy part of your palm, right above your
wrists? Use those, the side of your thumbs, and the paddy 
parts of your fingertips as you massage the person's entire
back. Use circualar motions: make circles on their back, like
cleaning a window or waxing a car. Go outward from the spine. 
To the right of the spine go counter clockwise. To the left, go
clockwise. Make circles on the entire back, then work on the neck. 
Then reverse clock direction in both hands, working again on
the back.

The last steps use light pressure, and let the person know that
the massage is winding down and is to end soon. Rub the back 
in straight sweeps from buttocks to shoulders and back to the 
buttocks, using medium pressure. With each complete sweep (up
from the buttocks and back down) lighten the amount of pressure
used. This last step is called wind down, and though it does
nothing for the circulation, it does wonders for the person's
well-being. Touch is a very important communication form. The
wind down lets the person collect their thoughts and form an
opinion about the massage. Any massage, even if done poorly,
is accepted positively because we all have such a compelling
need for touch. I remember in psych class, the instructor
described a study done some time ago, and rather unethically,
where the group of infants receiving no touch got sick and died, 
while the control group of infants had normal development and
lived. So, we all need touch in order to live. So people, 
get your hands out there! Reach out and RUB someone... tee heee
   
-- 
		WARNING: TO AVOID DANGER OF SUF
		FOCATION  KEEP THIS PLASTIC BAG
		AWAY FROM BABIES AND CHILDREN
		THIS IS NOT A TOY
From: sxc45@po.CWRU.Edu (Sharon Cates)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: What is this group?
Date: 3 Oct 1992 00:47:23 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


     Thankyou for the clarification on what the news group is.
I have read all of the postings available on my system and after
the clarification I recieved do have a clue.  Thanks again, I 
look forward to reading and typing in the future.

                                               Sharon

The only thing that makes life possible is permanent, intolerable
uncertainty; not knowing what comes next.

                                          -Ursula K. Le Guin

Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: richard@octel.com (Richard Karasik)
Subject: Re: Backrub Exchange?
Organization: Octel Communications Inc., Milpitas Ca.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:53:31 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.232736.26279@newsgate.sps.mot.com> wolfson@regatta.sps.mot.com (Stephen Wolfson) writes:
>So is there a list of usenetters willing to swap backrubs/massage?
>It could be listed by city/geographic area.  If not I'm willing to put
>together a list and post it as an FAQ.  My suggested format would be
>
>Name: (Joe/Jane Smith)
>Location: (New York, Bay Area, Whatsamatta University etc.)
>Specialties: (as masseur/masseuse, i.e. swedish, shiatsu etc.)
>Gender: (M/F)
>Gender willing to exchange backrubs with (M,F,Both) 
>email address: smith@hot.oil.com
>
>comments, suggestions?
>
>-- Steve
>


Curious- I already started doing this several months back and have gotten only 4
responses on the net -it seems like this group was created by some spurious
spontaneous combustion of neurons -rather than a lot of real members!!!
 or long time massage afficionados !! At any case a list would be nice, but people
 have gotta wanna play !
 Richard
-- 
|UUCP  richard@octel.com                 VOICE (HEY YOU!) or 408 321 6372
| 
|             Speaker for the dead - among them:
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