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From: grendel@camelot.bradley.edu (Alyosha Bourgea)
Subject: Re: Here Are The Undeniable Truths of Life
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:24:22 GMT

In <1992Nov19.164245.8309@ll.mit.edu> lsa@ll.mit.edu (lisa s anderson) writes:

>In article <grendel.722041805@camelot>, grendel@camelot.bradley.edu (Alyosha Bourgea) writes:
>|>
>|>>33. There will always be poor people.                              
>|>
>|>Only as long as there is capitalism.
>|>

>This is so ludicrous it's laughable.  Do you mean to suggest that if we 
>eliminated capitalism, we would eliminate poor people?  How many people 
>are starving in all of the non-capitalistic societies throughout the 
>world?  Name one country in which there are no poor people.  I see that 
>the communnist (socialist, actually) pipe dream of "let's dole out 
>everything equally to all for the good of society" was very successful 
>in the "former" Soviet Union.  Their productivity soared and all of the 
>people were well-fed and just as happy as clams, right?  It's only in the 
>evil capitalist countries, led of course by the evil personified United 
>States of America, that the existence of poor people is accepted as a fact
>of life.  Sarcasm aside, I find it hard to believe that anyone could be 
>naive enough to really believe the statement that you made.

Believe it, babe.  I never claimed the communistic system of government works.
All I said was that capitalism creates poverty.  Capitalism is _about_ rich
and poor.  How do you interpret the word "poor"?  I interpret it as "at an
economic or financial disadvantage".  In a system of competition, where the
idea is to do better than the other guy, there will always be "the other guy".
Capitalistic structure perpetuates poverty.  It is part of the underlying
concept.  Now, notice I didn't say that communism, socialism, etc. create
happy clams.  People are certainly at a disadvantage under these systems of
government, because they are systems that function better as ideas than as
realities.  I do not propose a utopian alternative.  All I'm saying is that
if one claims that poverty is inevitable, as Rush does, one should look for
the underlying cause.  The underlying cause is a concentration of power.
Capitalism provides for this concentration of power.  Today in the United
States, the top four percent of the population make the same amount as the
bottom fifty percent of the population.



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From: heath@athena.cs.uga.edu (Terrance Heath)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.president.clinton
Subject: Re: Al Gore -VP Curse strkes again?
Date: 17 Nov 92 04:08:59 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Nov16.212415.16449@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> howiegbk@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jr Howard Mea Turner) writes:
>Al Gore and Dan Quayle both served on the Senate Armed Services Committee.
>I hardly think Sen. Gore is more qualified than VP Quayle in terms
>of foreign policy.  Quayle handled himself well when the F-16's were called
>in to buzz the Philipinnes palace.  Gore might have done the same,
>but as of this instant, QUAYLE HAS MORE EXPERIENCE.  What did Al do
>during the Persian Gulf . . . does the word waffle mean anything to
>anyone?
>

Did anyone tell this guy the elections over?



-- 
"Black men loving black men is THE revolutionary act!"
			-Joseph Beam_
Terrance Heath 
heath@athena.cs.uga.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
From: session@seq.uncwil.edu (Zack C. Sessions)
Subject: Re: Limbaugh Watch - Day 17
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:09:07 GMT

jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer) writes:

>It's now 17 days after Bill Clinton's election and Rush is still on the 
>air with 536 radio affiliates and 207 TV affiliates, and his book is 
>number one on the NY Times hardback non-fiction best-seller lists.

Huh? So what? What has this got to do with the price of eggs in China?

-- 
Zack Sessions
sessions@seq.uncwil.edu
University of North Carolina at Wilmington (Alumni)
"Good health is merely the slowest form of dying."
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From: knauer@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu (Rob Knauerhase)
Subject: Re: Limbaugh Watch Day 15
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:16:14 GMT

In <grendel.722542135@camelot> grendel@camelot.bradley.edu (Alyosha Bourgea) writes:
>It is a waste of bandwidth because it makes a pointless statement.  Basically
>it says "I LIKE RUSH!"
>SO WHAT?

It doesn't just say that Mr. Switzer likes Rush.

Many, many people (especially "liberals" but even some "conservatives")
predicted that Rush's show would end if Mr. Clinton were elected.  Switzer's
reminders serve as reaffirmation to the faithful and taunts to the intolerant.

Rob
--
Rob Knauerhase           University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
knauer@cs.uiuc.edu       Dept. of Computer Science, Gigabit Study Group
   "Eat, drink, and be merry; for tomorrow, ye will be taxed."  America, I
    hope 'change' was worth it...
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Organization: The Leader Desslok School of Diplomacy
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:48:16 EST
From: Mark 'Mark' Sachs <MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Limbaugh Watch Day 15
Distribution: usa
 <92327.160414MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu> <1ep7hcINNscv@agate.berkeley.edu>

In article <1ep7hcINNscv@agate.berkeley.edu>, Don Bromley sez                  )
>In article <92327.160414MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu> Mark 'Mark' Sachs sez
>>Heh. Yeah, he's so "in-touch" that his party lost the Presidency, the Senate,
>>the House, and most governorships...

>  The Republicans "lost" the House?  Actually they made gains in the
>  House!

Well, it's encouraging that you're looking at your bright side. Nevertheless,
fact remains that this allegedly "in-touch" party has a minority in the House,
and lost even more seats in the Senate. See, if they were REALLY "in-touch"
they'd be WINNING... perhaps there's some different definition of the term
I was not previously aware of.

>                                                   the only reason
>  Bush lost (by a mere 5%) was because he abandoned the policies of
>  Ronald Reagan, which the people thought they'd be getting in Bush.

It's an interesting theory, I'll grant you, but it seems somewhat
improbable. Let me get this straight: What The Great American People
REALLY want is more Reagan-like policies, so they turn out in droves to vote
for...

...Bill Clinton?

No, no, I don't see it. Sorry.

 "But Dr. Radium, was that necessary?" "Rez, _everything_ I do is necessary."
[Your blood pressure just went up.]        Mark Sachs IS: mbs110@psuvm.psu.edu
DISCLAIMER: If PSU knew I had opinions they'd probably try to charge me for it.
From: detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu (David De Trolio)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: What is Rush's E-mail Addr?
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:47:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

noland@ecst.csuchico.edu (Douglas Nolan) writes:

>Could someone sendme the Compuserve address for Rush Limbaugh?

70277.2502@compuserve.com




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From: kamilewi@lars.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Alex Kamilewicz)
Subject: Re: Here Are The Undeniable Truths of Life
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:27:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.131514.4024@wkuvx1.bitnet> barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.160934.21158@news.stolaf.edu>, kamilewi@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Alex Kamilewicz) writes:
>> In article <1992Nov16.190611.1@woods.ulowell.edu> enor@woods.ulowell.edu writes:
>>>>In article <Bxtovu.7Ap@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, 
>>>>tz10956@meibm12.cen.uiuc.edu (Thomas Zych) writes:
>>>>> sjthomas@cup.portal.com (Stephen J Thomas) writes:
>                                                                   
>>>>>Rush Limbaugh's 35 Truths                                          
>                                                                   
>>>>>21. Abortion is wrong.                                             
> 
>>>> But forcing women who cannot or do not wish to support children to have them,
>>>> in effect enslaving them, is perfectly alright.
>
>>>	Biology 101, Sex is first and foremost for the procreation of LIFE. 
>>>The old saying goes  here "If you don't want to get burned, don't play with
>>>fire."  It was a woman's choice to have sex or not(except cases of rape or
>>>incest) therefore she already executed her right to choose.  If a human being
>>>in the womb were just another body part abortion should be legal.(i.e. if you
>>>want your livver out take it out)  but human life is just that human life.)
> 
>> What if she was already trying to avoid getting pregnant, i.e. like using
>> birth control, and it happened anyway?
>
>Sex is for procreation, as he said.  Any time you do it, you run the
>risk - with or without birth control.  You accept the risk by engaging
>in it - with or without birth control.  You know what you're getting
>into.

Some would argue that sex is sometimes for the sharing of intimacy between
two people who are very close, and not for procreation.  In effect, the idea
of "making love" instead of "making babies."


Alex


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From: crosmun@crosmun.rtp.dg.com (William Crosmun)
Subject: Re: Al Gore -VP Curse strkes again?
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 14:40:54 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, RTP, NC.

In article <1992Nov13.200402.4286@news.columbia.edu> aa102@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Amer  Ahmad) writes:
>In response to the story about Al Gore.  Let me just say that we are lucky, as Americans, to have such an able VP.  Unlike the present VP, Sen. Gore is considered an expert in foreign affairs, arms-contorl, and the environment.  He is a fine public servan
>t who, by his peers, has been repeatedly voted "most able member of Congress."

I remember a story about a spoiled rich kid who bought himself a yacht and a
captain's cap and wanted everybody to call him "captain".  His mother's
response was, "Honey, to me you're a captain and to you you're a captain, but
to a captain you're not a captain."  Al Gore may be "considered an expert" but
is he considered an expert by other experts?  Moreover, I would remind you
that the last time we had government by the Best and the Brightest they gave
us the Vietnam war.  The current director of the OMB, who made a perfect score 
on his SATs gave us the 1990 budget agreement and the 90-92 recession.
Finally, the most qualified holder of high public office, in terms of his
resume, expertise and experience, is George Bush.  'Nuff said.  Expertise not 
grounded in experience or common sense is dangerous.  It remains to be seen
whether Clinton/Gore have what it takes to successfully lead this country, and
intelligence/expertise is no predictor. I am willing to wait and be pleasantly 
surprised, but it will be pleasant and it will be a surprise.

>
>Amer
>
>


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William Crosmun
crosmun@dg-rtp.dg.com

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"The whole idea of our government is this: If enough people get together and
 act in concert, they can take something and not pay for it."
			  
                                      P.J. O'Rourke - A Parliament of Whores

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From: krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Limbaugh Watch - Day 17
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:13:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson AZ

In article <1992Nov20.020757.24253@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mosborne@nyx.cs.du.edu (Madeleine Osborne) writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.173738.1394@netcom.com> jrs@netcom.com (John Switze
>) writes:
>>November 19, 1992
>>Dateline - Santa Barbara, CA
>>
> It's now 17 days after Bill Clinton's election and Rush has been
> dropped from 117 radio affiliates and 36 TV affiliates.  His book 
> has fallen off the NY Times hardback non-fiction best-seller lists.
> Apparently, his fifteen minutes of fame are up.

You forgot the smilies!

Ted (Rush is bigger than ever! ;)


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From: htuttle@nyx.cs.du.edu (Harry Tuttle)
Subject: Re: Dan Quayle My Hero !!!!!!!!!!
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 16:46:32 GMT

In article <92317.014050KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu (Kurt 
udwick) writes:
>In article <1992Nov6.140848.1@woods.ulowell.edu>, enor@woods.ulowell.edu
says:
>
>>Thank you Mr. Vice President for being a beacon of truth in the ranks o
 the
>
>Say... isn't that, "a beakon of truth," as it was in the official Quayle
>                         ^
>family Christmas card of a couple of years ago...?
>
                                                                    
>
>------------
>Kurt Ludwick
>------------



Now this is more like it, Kurt.  Although some would accuse you 
of being too harsh on our lame duck VP, I feel that making fun of
him is more than justified.

I'm glad that you think he is a schmuck as well.  

We have another convert!


Harry Tuttle
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.bush
From: best@anasazi.com (Mike Best)
Subject: Re: Democratic Whiners Can't Take It
Organization: Anasazi, Inc.  Phoenix, Arizona USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:38:12 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.183531.29972@news.columbia.edu> egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy) writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.023647.1@acad.drake.edu> vsg001@acad.drake.edu writes:
>>
>>Hmm. Pretty bold statement here. Rush has about 12 MILLION listeners; and I'm
>
>Heh, heh.  Re: 12 MILLION: a large number of whom don't read normally.
>[Source: Simon & Schuster marketing research]

Yes, I was called by S&S and coincidentally I was reading abnormally.
I was actually reading backwards and, while they pressured me to confess,
I had to admit that I sometimes read books by reading the reflected image
of the pages off the surface of a mirror.  At other times I am simply 
abnormal when I read but they said that this does not qualify as reading
abnormally (they did give me a contact in the psychiatric world though).

Mike Best
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From: mitcheec@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (Elliott Mitchell)
Subject: apologies for bashing thEwIndBag, again...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Vanderbilt University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:12:00 GMT

 the second coming of my offending post was an accident.

My apologies to the Limbots who were offended twice.


+ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
| Elliott Mitchell
|  Peabody College at Vanderbilt University
|  Nashville, Tenn. Home of the Grand Ole Opry
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From: dsteinbe@nmsu.edu (David Steinberg)
Subject: Re: Here Are The Undeniable Truths of Life
Organization: New Mexico State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 17:02:36 GMT

In article <grendel.722136033@camelot> grendel@camelot.bradley.edu
(Alyosha Bourgea) writes: 
>In <1992Nov18.020350.12683@netcom.com> kc@netcom.com (Dameon D. Welch) writes:
>
>>In article <grendel.722041805@camelot> grendel@camelot.bradley.edu (Alyosha Bourgea) writes:

>>>>27. Soviet leaders are actually left wing dictators.               
>>>
>>>Believe it or not, not all Soviet leaders are any one thing.
>
>>But most of them preached facist left-winged ideas.
>
>HELLO!  Remember the coup?  Remember Gorbachev getting kidnapped?  Remember
>the breakup of the Soviet Union?  It happened because a RIGHT-wing faction
>of the government, that is, the old guard of Brezhnev/Lenin ideology,
>opposed Gorbachev's progressivism and willingness to allow state's rights.
>Calling Soviet government fascist left-wingers is way too convenient.

Actually, as I recall, they weren't exactly thrilled about Gorby's
free market experiments.  So are you saying that a conservative is
someone who disliked the free market.  What an odd and convenient
definition; e.g. right wing= bad guys.


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From: kebarnes@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: RE: Music on the Radio Show
Date: 22 Nov 92 00:03:19 -0600
Distribution: usa
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1992Nov19.094004.19823@meaddata.com>, dlovely@meaddata.com (David Lovely) writes:
> In article <1992Nov13.161649.4071@memstvx1.memst.edu>, kebarnes@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
> |> 
> |> Now for the bonus round! Who can name the most current and historical
> |> "update themes?"
> |> 
> |> Feminist Update(s): "?"
> |> [There have been several. I want either the current one, or the first one.
> |> The only one I'm certain of is "Maybe I Mean Yes" by Holly Dunn]
> 
> The current one is "Men" by Patty Loveless (?)

Loveless... What an appropriate choice.

> |> 
> |> Ted Kennedy Update: "The Philanderer" a take-off on "The Wanderer" by ?
> |> 
> 
> "The Wanderer" was performed by Dion in 1961
>

Thank you. We have a winnner!

> |> 
> |> President Slick Willie Update: "Pressure" by Billy Joel from ?
> |> [What album? -- P.S., I think there's a song by The Who that's a better
      fit.]
> 
> "Pressure" can be found on "The Nylon Curtain" (1982).
> 

Correct. Thank you for playing.

Hint: The Who song is from "Tommy".

> |> Sexual Harassment Update: "My Eyes Adored You" by ?
> |> 
> 
> Who else?: Frankie Valli (sans the 4 Seasons)

O.K.! Now, who did the Anita Hill Update theme, "She's Come Undone"? 

> -- 
> ****************************************************************************
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From: shapiro@cfsctc.enet.dec.com (Steve Shapiro)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Expansion of alt.fan.rush-limbaugh proposed
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:02:44 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Marlboro, MA
Organisation: SKS Computer Consulting, Inc.


In article <1992Nov19.221056.8403@netcom.com>, jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer)
writes...

>>The way you word your statement, it appears to me as though you feel that John
>>has some ulterior motive to what he does. Tell me that this is not so!

>I've already explained this - when Buchanan gets elected in 1996, and Rush
>becomes his communications director, I fully expect a nice, cushy White 
>House job. 

Like I said, it appears as though you have no serious aspirations. 8-)

>Don't know what it would be, but I'd be happy doing something as
>simple as clipping newspaper stories - yeah, that'd be the ticket, sitting
>around all day with scissors, cutting articles from newspapers, humming
>quietly to myself.

...in a padded room just off the oval office...

(Reminds me of the scene in Batman with the Joker clipping pics). 8-)

Regards,
Steve.

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From: rlc1028@zeus.tamu.edu  
Subject: Re: Flaming Conservative (Re: Liberals DO oppose First Amendment rights)
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:48:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.184603.12951@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, psmith@iies.ecn.purdue.edu (Paul Smith) writes...

|>      God commanded Isaac to kill his son.  It is said to have been
|>      a test for Isaac.  But it could only have been a test for him
|>      if indeed God had truly commanded him to do so.  And of course
|>      God would not lie.  So we see that some of God's commandments
|>      may be in conflict or contradiction with others.  I suppose
|>      that we should find this Acceptable.  Discuss

|Discuss?  Ok, this is easy...
|God is *God*... and you're not.  Think about it.

	And, the alleged words of God are handed to us by men...
who also are not God.   

|That about covers it :-).

	Yep   ;-]

|PS. Yes I know it was only a .sig

	So, why did you reply to a mere .SIG?

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: grendel@camelot.bradley.edu (Alyosha Bourgea)
Subject: Re: Here Are The Undeniable Truths of Life
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:31:04 GMT

In <1992Nov19.165547.8760@ll.mit.edu> lsa@ll.mit.edu (lisa s anderson) writes:

>In article <grendel.722135201@camelot>, grendel@camelot.bradley.edu (Alyosha Bourgea) writes:
>|>
>|>>>>33. There will always be poor people.                              
>|>>> 
>|>>> Unfortunately, true.
>|>
>|>Only in a society that is capitalistic (i.e., competitive, where there are
>|>winners and losers).
>|>

>Don't you get it yet.  Basic human nature is to be competitive.  Some people 
>are more competitive and ambitious than others.  Granted some people start 
>out with the deck stacked in their favor.  However, given two people who start 
>out with the same opportunities and resources, most often one will achieve 
>more success than the other.

Look, what we're dealing with in this society is polarization.  It's gone way
beyond competition.  Wealth perpetuates wealth; poverty perpetuates poverty.
How does this polarization stop?  Only if those with wealth and power provide
for those without.  This is not being done because of some vague idea that it
is "anti-capitalistic" and therefore sinful.  Capitalism, though one of the
more effective economic systems, is not the Gospel solution.



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