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From: rpsingh@uwovax.uwo.ca
Subject: Manoj Madhekar, UAlberta, CANADA.(LOOkin for)
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 16:10:30 GMT

Hi,
I'm looking for Mr. Manoj Madhekar at the university of Alberta, Edmonton
Canada. If any of you guys have his address, could you please let me know.
Univ. of Alberta guys: If you see this could you inform the guy to contact
me immediately, PLEASE.
Ravi.-- 

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From: crick@htlv.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Do we need a religion?
Date: 20 Dec 92 20:48:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <1992Dec19.232820.25605@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> akash@crescent.berkeley.edu (Akash R. Deshpande) writes:
>|> How would you explain a solar eclipse?
>
>I don't need to. Remember, I am blind for the sake of artument, and
>can't see no eclipses.
>-Akash

OK Mr (Dr) Defil's Advocate.  Propose an alternate hypothesis that has merit.

Ed
From: partha@paul.rutgers.edu (nowhere_man)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Sati's history
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:13:19 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

wait a sec before placing ALL the blames of forced sati to the
Muslims..

how about the kith and kins who wanted the properties of the poor
widow, who used to conspire with the Brahmin heads (who will get a
share, ofcourse ) of the society and come up with a ruling that the
poor girl has to die for her own good...
not to mention the sadistic pleasure the witnesses used to derive
while the drugged younf woman was pulled to the pyre...

and about roots of Sati in Hindu Scriptures: i think Raja Rammohan Roy
proved it conclusively that there is none (for what was practised then
as sati..remember there is a difference between Jahar Brata(what the
Rajput's did) or Sahamarana(what Madri did)  and Sati (what happened
to Roop Kanwar (?) a few years back))..there was an open debate and
he won aginst those 'fanatic' hindu/brahmin pundits. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sgbhatca@eos.ncsu.edu (SHREENAGUESH G BHATCAR)
Subject:  Test !
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:12:21 GMT


Test posting.
From: fafat@usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: American way.
Date: 11 Dec 1992 19:47:58 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

			The American Way.


	There's this guy who goes to Trinidad for vacation and falls in love 
	with a girl there. So, on returning home, he goes and tells his father
	that he wants to marry her. The father enquires about her antecedents
	etc.. On knowing these, he tells his son, " I'm sorry, son, don't tell
	this to your mother but you can't marry that girl because she's sort
	of your sister". The son desperately wants to marry the girl. So he
	goes to his mother and says, " Mother, I want to marry this girl but
	father says I can't. He asked me not to tell you that the girl is
	my sister". The mother laughs and says, " o, go ahead, son. Your
	father does'nt know that you're not his son".





Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: pingali@engin.umich.edu (Pingali V G K Sarm)
Subject: HELP!!! Need to send medicines to Bangalore
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 16:15:54 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa

   We need to send some prescription medicines to Bangalore from St. Louis
urgently. Courier/postal services take from 3 days to a week or more. So if
there is anybody going from the St.Louis, Missouri area to Bangalore or 
Madras in the next couple of days, and is willing to take these medicines
please contact 
  Mohan at the following email address sundarar@eecs.umich.edu
or
    phone (313) 994 3275 (call collect if necessary).
 Our people will give you the medicines along with the required medical
certificates or other documentsin St. Louis and pick up the medicines
from you at Bangalore/Madras.

Thanks
 Gopal 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: vijay@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Vijay Rangarajan)
Subject: Re: progress in India!
Originator: vijay@picard.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: National Center for Supercomputing Applications (NCSA).
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:39:24 GMT

In article <1gqietINNs5q@lns554.TN.CORNELL.EDU> vj@lns598.tn.cornell.edu (Vivek Jain) writes:
>
>
>When RG sided with the fundamentalists in the Shahbano case, it was said that
>he took India back to the 13th century. With the demolition of the mosque, I 
>guess you could say we went back to the 16th century. So, in a way, we have 
>made tremendous progress (300 yrs. worth) in less than a decade. At this rate 
>we will get to the 21st century quite shortly.
>
>vj

Good logic! The assumption you have made, however, is that the Gandhi family
will not get in the way between now and the beginning of the next century.

Vijay.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: thiru@lgc.com (Thiru Bollam)
Subject: Re: 3 BJP ruled state govts. dismissed
Organization: Landmark Graphics Corporation
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:37:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.222735.9805@news.uiowa.edu> abdutta@icaen.uiowa.edu (Abhijit Dutta) writes:
>|     NEW DELHI, India (UPI) -- Prime Minister P.V. Narasimha Rao dismissed
>|three state governments led by the opposition Bharatiya Janata Party and
>|imposed direct federal rule on the areas late Tuesday in the wake of a
>|week of riots that killed 1,200 people.
>

         Today I'm ASHAMED of my...... Never been more positive about my
         convictions about the Cong(i).


Thiru
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From: VQK@psuvm.psu.edu (Venkateshwar K. Reddy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Matrimonial
Date: 20 Dec 92 19:38:58 GMT
Organization: Penn State University


 Parents seeking matches from Reddy professionals (or graduate students),
preferably 5'10" or above for their 22 year old daughter who is a working
professional.  Please respond with a recent photograph and biodata to the
following address:
                   V. K. Reddy
                   4810 Nightingale Dr, #F305
                   Colorado Springs, CO 80918
No flames please :)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: hsingh@seas.gwu.edu (harmel singh)
Subject: +++ do we pay tax on tuition waiver/assistantships???
Keywords: tax
Organization: George Washington University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:18:03 GMT



hi netters,

do we have to give tax on the tuition waiver / assistantship money earned.

if yes, could anybody post ( better email me ) the details.

all responses will be highly appreciated.


hari.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: ghouse@gauss.cs.jhu.edu (Mujtaba Ghouse)
Subject: Re: Somalia and Ayodhya (was Re: India -PVNR Indignant )
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 15:55:24 GMT

prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar) writes:
>Certainly US wouldn't mind if OIC takes out its checkbook and reimburses
>US for the entire cost of Operation Restore Hope which is helping save
>an Islamic nation. 

Indeed.  Now Saudi Arabia is contributing some troops it's possible
they might give something else too.

>Certainly the Muslims in Bosnia can use a little
>help. 

The steering committee of the OIC (which I think consists of Saudi Arabia,
Egypt, Turkey, Iran and Pakistan) has asked the UN Security Council several
times to lift the arms embargo on the Bosnians, to allow them to defend
themselves.  (Thus far, the Security Council has refused.)

>Please correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't it appear that OIC
>is long on rhetoric and short on actual help?

Despite what I've said above, I agree.

-Mujtaba Ghouse
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From: willemsdawnm@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.italian,soc.culture.japan
Subject: wedding customs?
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:22:24 CST
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA


I am currently doing a paper on wedding customs of different societies.  I
would appreciate any information anyone can provide for me. 
Please send info to willemsdawnm.bvc.edu

thanks
dawn
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: shivakl@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (LAKSHMANAN SHIVAKUMAR)
Subject: Re: Hinduism and Idol Worship....
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Vanderbilt University
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 15:57:00 GMT

In article <19382.2b332573@ecs.umass.edu>, vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu writes...
(stuff deleted).. I like to hear about the idol worship concept in Hindu-
>ism and about the slogas, not whether or not EVR was right.  
> 
>Vicky:
>UMass, Dec 19

I don't know much about what the slogas actually mean.  However, I 
do remember reading about an incident in Swami Vivekananda's life.
Swami Vivekananda was asked by a Maharaja whether he believed in
Idol worship.  In replying to that question, Vivkananda asked the
minister, who was sitting next to the Maharaja, to bring a picture
of the Maharaja.  When the picture was brought he asked the minister
to spit on it.  The minister refused to do so.  Vivekananda then
explained that even though the Maharaja does not live in the picture the
minister  still saw the King in that picture and respected it.  God, on the 
other hand, is without a form and it is not possible for ordinary men to 
imagine or concentrate on a formless being.  This is 
where idols help people by creating for them an image of god and helping
the focus their thoughts on this visible thing.

This I read at a time when I was looking  for question about idol 
worship and this answer appealed to me.  Try imagining god without any form,
color, matter, etc and I am sure the logic behind it would become clear to
you all as well.

Regards,
Shivakumar
From: crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD))
Subject: Re: Do we need a religion?
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 18:37:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.224737.10216@ryn.mro4.dec.com> verma@pfeast.enet.dec.com (Virendra Verma) writes:
>
>	I talk about my Hindu religion which has lived peacefully with
>	science since ages. Western religions and science were always at
>	odds. That is probably the reason why religion is so much hated these
>	days. If I do that then what is difference between me and the Pope,

Science can be defined as finding the truth through observation and 
experimentation.  The experimentation should be rigorous to exclude other
possibilities.  In other words, if one proposes a model based on observations,
all the experiments that follow should be designed to break that model.  If
they fail, then that model is considered the best as testable by current
technology.  Now show me where religion (Eastern or Western) has challenged
the basic dogma by experimentation.  Faith is only tested in the stories on
which religions are based, but if one tries to test faith nowadays in the
same manners, there would be many dead "experimental theologists."  The most
faithful Christian cannot walk on water.


>	between me and you. Pope dislikes science and you dislike his
>	religion. But I like both science and my religion which is Hinduism.

I do not dislike religion.  I dislike the pompous, self-appointed experts
like yourself and the Pope, who consider themselves the most fit to interpret
their respective scriptures, and then hand down their edicts to the rest of
the population who are considered too inferior to reach their own conclusions.

>-- Virendra Verma

Ed
From: kale@usc.edu (Nitin Kale)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Need company for multiple H-1 pilgrimage !!!
Date: 18 Dec 1992 16:37:55 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu


	My friend (who does not have access to the network) is 
looking for company to go to either El Paso or Monterey for
getting a multiple entry H-1 visa. 

	If interested, please contact :

	Manish Gandhi
	(818)886-2509 (H)
	(818)701-1207 (W)


	please do not send e-mail to me. 


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sjayanth@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Satyanand V. Jayanthi)
Subject: Re: The Roots of the Recent Violence in India
Keywords: violence, caste reservations, politics, religious disputes
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:56:34 GMT

In article <Bz9Hx9.76B@news.cso.uiuc.edu> vtg1714@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Vishwanath Tirupattur  ) writes:
>
>Prof.  Kak does not seem to have his facts correct.  There are Hindu run 
>educational institutions all over the country.  I went to the Sri Venkateshwara
>High School in Tirupathi which is run by the TTD (Tirumala-Tirupathi           
>Devastanams), which is a Hindu religious institution.  The school had a few
>non-Hindus but we had Hindu prayers (suprabhatham and so on) every day 
>which were always read by a Bramhin boy (from a temple priest family).  There
>are many other instances where Hindu religious institutions run schools and 
>collges.                                                  
>
>Hence, the statement that the majority community in India does not have the
>right to establish their own educational institutions is plainly incorrect.
>
>Vishwanath

  I do not know about TTD run schools, but among the other privileges that
these minority instutions have i think is that governmental interference is
0. The government cannot interfere with any activity going on in the school
just because it is a minority institution. For example, by virtue of being
a minority institution, The Deccan engineering college in hyderabad, which
is managed by some Majlis based trust and which is minority institution,
can take its students..without theirhaving gone through the entrance test..
and even collect as much as they want in fees and donations...is it not a
privilege Mr.Vishwanath? It might help you to know that there was a liti-
gation in the courts for many years in calcutta--guess what..the Ramakrishna-
Math wanted to be recognised as a minority organisation..I do not know what
happened to the case..but it does go to illustrate the benefits of being
categorised as a minority institution..

Narain(from a friend's account)
narain@bass.bu.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: narayana@oracorp.com (K. T. Narayana)
Subject: Re: Gandhi and Hinduism [was Re: On Being a Non-Denominational Hindu  (Repost)]
Organization: ORA Corporation, Ithaca, New York
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:46:25 GMT

In article <1ga9ebINN7kr@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca> venkat@unixg.ubc.ca (Ramesh Venkat) writes:
>Distribution: 
>Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
>
>
>
>In article <92344.175716U15297@uicvm.uic.edu> ShyamalaParameswaran <U15297@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>>Reproducing something I posted earlier.
>	texts literally, Orthodox Hindus regard the Gita as the historic 
>	account of a battle in which one martial leader sought to avoid 
>	bloodshed but was soon reminded by God of his caste obligation to 
>	commit violence.

>Ramesh Venkat

This is interesting. You procure something from a book written by a guy
who says that Orthodox hindus regard Gita as a HISTORIC acct ... blah, blah.

Have you ever questioned whether orthodox hindus really regarded it as a
historic acct. If that were the case somewhere in the Upanishads the
historicity of it should be reflected; because that is the orthodox
hindu scripture. That is the problem in pulling out some vague authors
whose credentials for scholarship are questionable. While I can
understand your political purpose, I would like you to also post why
the author considers it so. We will then be able to assess whether
the author represents a genuine intellectual or a "Gandhi is my God"
intellectual.

...kt
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: thssdxn@iitmax.iit.edu (Dibyendu Nandy)
Subject: Re: Worship place ---- OCTOGON
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 00:48:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.232200.28584@vela.acs.oakland.edu> janand@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Jayaraman Anand) writes:
>In article <1gb3ckINNm96@tamsun.tamu.edu> gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec11.204809.19648@udel.edu> kazi@hercules.cis.udel.edu (Zunaid Kazi) writes:
>>>>> 
>>>>> [...... deleted.....]
>>>>> 
>>>>> >that one religion is better than the other.  Let's build the 
>>>>> >world's first *multireligious shrine* at the site.  Let's make the
>>>>
>>>>How about a pentagon with a fifth corner devoted to atheists like me ...
>>>>We need to be represented too.  We need a place where we can meet and discuss
>>>>the stupidity of the people who follow `religious books' rather than think...
>>>
>>>Maybe a sixth, for people who don't care whether a God [or Gods] exists
>>>or not.
>>
>>How about a seventh, for people like me who consider themselves 'God'.
>>:-)
>
>	How about an eighth corner for a guy like me whom the Gods
>	worship ?  -:)
>
>

	How about a shrine dedicated to mankind who created God in his
own image. Surely that counts higher than the Gods themselves. For the
very same mankind is willing to destroy and kill for his creation, his 
Godhead. Pity....

Regards
Dibyendu

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From: rthomas@usc.edu (Reem Thomas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Shopping in HongKong
Date: 11 Dec 1992 19:36:31 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu






Would like some info about shopping experiences in HK. Bargain spotand
or areas.

Cheers
Reem Thomas
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From: partha@mse.cse.ogi.edu (R. Parthasarathy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: Classified encounter - from Times of India.
Date: 17 Dec 92 23:22:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.47457
Distribution: world
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute, Material Science & Engineering

In article <1gqvluINN51v@menudo.uh.edu> Venkatachalam Aruna <aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu> writes:
>When I was browsing thru some old Times of India newspapers, I saw

Once again let me repeat what I said to Mr. Meenan Vishnu. The article
you have posted has no relevance to SCT and its charter. SCI definitely
is an appropriate forum for your article. It is not that I am becoming
picky about what should appear on this net and what shouldn't. This
is just a friendly reminder. This net was created specifically for
addressing issues related to Tamil culture and experiences of
Tamilians with some relevance to this forum. I definitely wouldn't
have had any problems if you had posted a similar article with
tidbits from a Tamil newspaper or magazine.

Partha sarathy

NB: No offense intended
From: dante@sytex.com (Vikram David)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: calcutta                 
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 14:19:53 EST
X-Maildoor: WaflineMail 1.00r

PB>Path: sytex!uunet!olivea!spool.mu.edu!news.nd.edu!lazy!patb
  >From: patb@lazy.helios.nd.edu (Pathikrit Bandyopadhyay)
  >Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
  >Subject: calcutta
  >Message-ID: <1992Dec10.035449.22014@news.nd.edu>
  >Date: 10 Dec 92 03:54:49 GMT
  >Sender: news@news.nd.edu (USENET News System)
  >Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
  >Lines: 6

PB>since i have not seen anything on calcutta before, i am posting what
  >i got from phone conversation: right now calcutta is under indefinite
  >curfew. it was under curfew before, which was lifted for ten hours (except
  >for garden reach and metiaburuj) trouble started immediately, and an
  >indefinite curfew was imposed. apparently there have been deaths and
  >attacks on mandir and masjids. sorry i do not have any more details.

Hello.  Yes, I know it is a real shame what's happening in India.  I'm
new here, and would like to get a conversation started with someone.
So, where do you stand on this issue?  Do you support the muslims, or
hindus?

I am a christian, and don't like `taking sides', but I wouldn't mind
hearing what other's feel is the right thing.

 - Vikram David
---
 * OLX 2.2 * Ever stop to think and forget to start again?
From: shiva@cse.unl.edu (V. Sivaramakrishnan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Attention:Oaklahoma State University,Stillwater students
Date: 12 Dec 1992 23:25:29 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: cse.unl.edu

Hello!

 A friend of mine is coming to OSU,Stillwater from India for the 
 spring semester '92.  He needs some help with the initial settling
 process. If you can help him, please contact me ASAP.

 Thanks a lot.

 shiva.
 shiva@cse.unl.edu
From: shankar@sgi.com (Shankar Unni)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Narrow Hindu Beliefs: Tipu Sultan & proof
Date: 15 Dec 1992 23:54:02 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: boris.wpd.sgi.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Ramamurthy Krithivas (rkrithiv@pima.intel.com) wrote:

> The book is  "Rockets,  Misslies and  Spacecrafts". Where the author 
> mentions that Tipu Sultan was one of those earliest users of rockets 
> in  battle field. That definitely makes him a  pioneer of the rocket 
> science. Most of them, in  their crudest  forms, used to be launched 
> into the tents of the British  during the nights. The rockets caused 
> a lot of damage to the British. 

Tipu also maintained correspondences with prominent Western diplomats
and leaders. One example was Dupleix, the French governer-general in
India (he was the person in charge of the French settlements) - he
imported guns and cannon under Dupleix's aegis.
--
Shankar Unni				E-Mail:	shankar@sgi.com
Silicon Graphics Inc.			Phone:	+1-415-390-2072
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rchattam@nyx.cs.du.edu (King Chattam)
Subject: WANTED: database software
Keywords: Oracle, Sybase, Informix
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 15:53:53 GMT

Hello,
  I am looking for the Oracle database management system
(Ver 5.0 or higher), SYBASE and the Informix 4GL. If you 
have any of these software for sale, please mail me the 
details, including the price, manuals, s&h etc.
dgh!student@uunet.uu.net
From: mukho@insect.cis.ufl.edu (Styaranjan Mukhopadhyay)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: message for Rakesh Dhawan of Iowa (BHEL?)
Keywords: From Das
Date: 17 Dec 92 04:35:59 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.


  Please call Das. He lost your phone number. or send
        email to mukho@comlab1.ee.ufl


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