HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Date: 28 Dec 1992 04:50:06 GMT
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <1992Dec28.032415.15671@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> rcanders@nyx.cs.du.edu (Rod Anderson) writes:
>It is too bad YOU don't understand amateur radio.

It is too bad you don't understand the issue here.

>It is never permitted to charge for the use of equipment.

Who said he was? I don't think it's unfair to expect that those who use the
equipment help support it, but this does not mean that I get an invoice
monthly from Jim for using his machine. (I'm one of his users, and happily
contribute my share.)

>You don't own the frequency that the
>repeater is on.  I have a right to transmit on your repeaters input
>frequency if it is not in use.  If there is a repeater that retransmits
>my signal so be it.  

...but don't expect that repeater to stay there, transmitting your signal, if
the trustee doesn't want it to.

There's a term for transmitting on a repeater's input frequency, knowing that
there's a repeater there with users on it, and yet not intending to use the
repeater - willful interference. All you're accomplishing is interfering with
the legitimate users of the machine.
-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
 "Brought to you by the letters O, S, and by the number 2." -- Mike Levis
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: abelson@operators.its.rpi.edu (Mike (KB2KYZ) Abelson)
Subject: Re: Exploding Air Bags? Locking Anti-Lock Brakes? 
Reply-To: abelson@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 23:49:18 GMT

In article <725042221snx@skyld.tele.com>, jangus@skyld.tele.com (Jeffrey D. Angus) writes:
|> 
|> In article <1992Dec21.151315.1663@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> whs70@dancer.cc.bellcore.com writes:
|> 
|>   > If Toyota salesman hear some of that, the pressure can become pretty
|>   > intense on the factory.
|> 
|>  Toyota (like General Motors) sells enough cars that even if EVERY amateur
|>  quit buying thier new cars, they wouldn't notice. (Or care) There is enough
|>  of a market out there without the amateur community. The only manufactures
|>  that HAMs have any clout with are those that depend on them for a major part
|>  of thier business. Sad but true, we are NOT the center of the universe.

While I agree with the fact that hams may not be the center of the universe (although not all of the data is in on that one yet ;-), the amateur community is not the only entity which uses transmitters in vehicles.  I think that emergency/government/etc services was mentioned before by others.  Also, what if we added all the folks who use CB's in their cars to the list?  By casual observation, I see LOTS of vehicles during the daily commute with transmitters of one type or another installed.  The caveats p

ut forth by the auto makers do not specifically single out hams with respect to transmitter/transciever installation. I think that the community of 'mobile-radio-users-in-general' is enough that it ought to get SOMEBODY's attention (we can only hope).

mla

-- 
............................................................................
Mike Abelson - Information Technology Services       abelson@rpi.edu
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute                
Troy, New York 12180-3590           Amateur Packet:  KB2KYZ @ WA2UMX
............................................................................
From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Field Day transmitter class (was Re: Highest frequency QSO)
Date: 30 Dec 1992 18:10:01 GMT
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <9212300941.aa08932@ingate.microsoft.COM> a-kevinp@microsoft.COM (Kevin Purcell, Rho) writes:
>Lynn Hurd, WB7UNU, said:
[...]
>By the way, our 41 transmitter operation was also done entirely on
>emergency power! so we were 41E Oregon! And by the way, the rules
>state that the transmitters all need to be on simulatneously to count.
>That was an interesting problem in logistics!

Actually, if you read the rules carefully, you only have to make contacts on
all transmitters within 15 minutes of each other in order to get the class
number. Once you have made a contact with a transmitter, it is assumed to be
on for the next 15 minutes on that band for purposes of establishing
transmitter class. I've often wanted to run something like 7B Battery... :-)
-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
 "Brought to you by the letters O, S, and by the number 2." -- Mike Levis
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 900 MHz
From: henryk@MILORI.CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 10:01:59 GMT
Reply-To: henryk@MILORI.CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU
Distribution: usa,local
Organization: University of Arizona

Howabout using a Rabbit VCR multiplier with a linear amplifier for ATV in the
900 band?

Henry Knoepfle
KB7NIE
From: mab3474@zeus.tamu.edu (Myles Barkman-KG5AI Tx A&M Univ.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: TS-450SAT WANT INFO
Date: 22 Dec 1992 01:29 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: zeus.tamu.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Just got my new TS-450SAT.  The general coverage transmit mod works.  Does
any one know any other mods?  Anyone have any comments bad or good about
this radio?
******************************************************************************
* Namenet   : Myles Barkman   aka 'Scanman'             Texas A&M University *
* Hamnet    : KG5AI          V.P. of W5AC-TAMU ARC        College Station TX *
* Internet  : mab3474@venus.tamu.edu      RACES                              *
* Bitnet    : mab3474@tamvenus                ARES                           *
* Packetnet : kg5ai@w5ac.tx.usa.na               SKYWARN                     *
* ICBMnet   : 30.606 N 96.316 W           Where are all the tornadoes?       *
******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jreese@NeoSoft.com (Jim Reese)
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 04:44:39 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.211319.9934@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) writes:
>In article <qXwgwB2w165w@beagle.UUCP> chandler@beagle.UUCP (Jim Chandler) writes:
>>While I'm on the subject, is there anyone out there with suggestions for a
>>1.2 GHz repeater system?  Also, I would like to here with anyone who has an
>>S-Com controller.
>
>Our repeater uses the S-Com 5k. I'll answer any questions I can about it.
>It's an excellent low cost low maintenance controller with enough flexibility
>to handle a normal repeater.


I'd agree 100%.  The S-Com 5k is an excellent controller.  I've used many of
them.  I don't think you can build one with simmilar capabilities for the
amount you'd spend on the S-com.



-- 
     Jim Reese, WD5IYT            | "Real Texans never refer to trouble
  jreese@sugar.neosoft.com        |  as deep doo-doo"  --Molly Ivins

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,fido.ham-radio,alt.bbs.ads
From: root@n8emr.cmhnet.org (0000-Admin(0000))
Subject: N8EMR_BBS_INFO
Organization: HAM BBS, 614-895-2553 
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 93 06:00:25 GMT


The N8EMR Ham bbs is online to serve the needs of the
amateur radio operators.. 

        HOW TO ACCESS THE N8EMR HAM RADIO TELEPHONE BBS !!!

System Name: 	N8EMR
Phone:		614-895-2553
Login:		hbbs 
Modems:         TB2500 PEP/V.32 support
Times: 		24hrs
IP Address: 	44.70.0.1 
Amateur radio annonymous ftp access is available via the ohio 
netrom/ip network. CMHIP is the Netrom node Id and is known 
by most of the nodes in ohio. (its slow but it works)
This is only via the ohio packet network. This sytem
is not available via the "INTERNET".

To access the system via the dialup, at the login prompt type hbbs 
(lower case only), you will then enter the BBS program. Follow the 
directions from the bbs prompts.
 
I attempt to keep the latest and greatest HAM software on-line, and 
encourage all to upload Here is some of software that is available 
for downloading.

NEWHAM area. Pick the tools you need to become a ham
AMSAT news and satellite keplerian elements
KA9Q TCP/IP Software for various computers, 
ARRL related files
Latest packet bbs programs and utilitys.
Modifications for HAM Rigs and Scanners
DX and contesting programs
Many Packet related programs
Scanner, shortwave and TVRO files and messages.
NASA NEWS..
Online Callsign lookup.

Question or comments to

Gary W. Sanders (gws@n8emr.cmhnet.org), 72277,1325
N8EMR @ W8CQK (ip addr) 44.70.0.1 [Ohio AMPR address coordinator]
HAM BBS 614-895-2553
Voice: 614-895-2552 (eves/weekends)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: tim@ais.org (Tim Tyler)
Subject: Re: Strange transmission on 80 meters (a beacon?)
Organization: UMCC
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 00:05:44 GMT

 SXA33 is the Greek Navy, at Piraeus.


-- 
 Tim Tyler      Internet: tim@ais.org  MCI Mail: 442-5735 
P.O. Box 443    C$erve: 72571,1005  DDN: Tyler@Dockmaster.ncsc.mil
Ypsilanti MI    Packet: KA8VIR @KA8UNZ.#SEMI.MI.USA.NA
48197
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: MSUORANTA@FINABO.ABO.FI (Mika Suoranta Tkkk)
Subject: Re: 72?
Organization: Turku School of Economics, Finland
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:47:06 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <9212211712.aa05378@ingate.microsoft.COM> a-kevinp@microsoft.COM writes:

>  I thought I new all the stange abbreviations but one still puzzles me: 
>  72. I've had a few people append 72 (often with 73, like 72/73) at the 
>  end of notes. Most (all?) of these people are QRPers.
>  
>  Can anyone tell me what this means and how it was derived?
>  
>  73 de Kevin Purcell N7WIM/G8UDP (Seattle, WA)          a-kevinp@microsoft.com
>  Do your interests match mine? If so call me. I'd like to hear from you.
>  QRP, Packet, TCP/IP, Digital voice, Macintosh, Spread Spectrum, Homebrew,
>  Satellites, Antenna design, Propagation, VHF/UHF weak signal, Microwave, QEX

	QRP folks use 72, 72/73 maybe to indicate the other station
	


	was not low power or just to give the traditional seventy-three

			73 / 72 (1200 baud modem, hi)  Mika



 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Mika Suoranta, Leirikatu 11, SF-20360 Turku, Finland,  tel. +358-21-382637
 Graduate Student, Turku School of Economics, Ham Radio OH1NZQ CEPT-Class 1
 Internet e-mail MSUORANTA@FINABO.ABO.FI  Packet Radio OH1NZQ@OH1RBU.FIN.EU
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jab0684@usl.edu (Boudreaux Jean A)
Subject: Changing tubes in SWAN 350 hf transceiver
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 15:37:47 GMT

Hi, I have a swan350 with worn out PA tubes(6hf5).  The replacements have just
arrived from RF parts.  I need advice on how to properly install and neutralize
these guys.  First, what exactly is that contact on the top of the tubes?
Is it a ground? or is it hot?  Second once I remove this contact how should
I remove the old tubes, just grab them and pull?  Also I have a 6gk6 to replace
the old pa driver, again how exactly should I remove the old tube?
Lastly are there any 'hot spots' I should be careful no

not to touch, or any other advice you may have on this process.
Oh, one last thing is the 10 meter PA neutralization control just to the right
of the 80-15 control?

73's DE KB5UDF/AG(Yup, passed my general Wednesday :)
kb5udf@usl.edu

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.packet,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.info,alt.radio.scanner
From: pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul W Schleck KD3FU)
Subject: Re: rec.radio.info Passes, news at 11
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 17:39:12 GMT

mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn) writes:

>rec.radio.info passes 215 Yes, 51 Nay. The official creation date will be set
>by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, my guess sometime into the new year.

And a full official announcement, complete with vote breakdown, will be
made available when the n.a.n moderator comes back from vacation.  Mark
and I wanted to at least let the net know, so they won't be left in
the dark for almost 2 weeks between the end of the vote and the
newsgroup creation, while Dave Lawrence takes a well-deserved holiday
vacation.

73, Paul W. Schleck, KD3FU

pschleck@unomaha.edu

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Organization: very little
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1993 06:07:03 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.233653.11068@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) writes:
>In article <1992Dec30.055252.23627@ssc.com> tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec28.032415.15671@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> rcanders@nyx.cs.du.edu (Rod Anderson) writes:
>>>
>>>It is too bad YOU don't understand amateur radio.  It is never permitted
>>>to charge for the use of equipment.
>>
>>I can't find this portion of Part 97.  Please post a reference.
>
>97.113(a)(2)(b) 
>"No station shall transmit messages for hire, or for material compensation,
>direct or indirect, paid or promised."


Right.  This prohibits you from charging for transmitting radiograms.
It does not prohibit you from charging for use of your gear.

Big difference!

>
>>  You don't own the frequency that the
>>>repeater is on. 
>>
>>And broadcast stations don't "own" the frequencies either...they belong
>>to the public, and the licensees hold them in trust.  But that doesn't
>>give YOU the right to transmit there.
>
>UNLIKE amateur radio licensees, broadcast licenses are *assigned* a
>specific frequency for the duration of their license term. For amateurs
>the applicable regulation is as follows.
>
>97.101(b)
>"Each station licensee and each control operator must cooperate in
>selecting transmitting channels and in making the most effective use
>of the amateur service frequencies. No frequency will be assigned for 
>                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>the exclusive use of any station."
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Right.  Notice that you must COOPERATE in selection of a transmitting
freq.  If I have cooperated with local coordinators and have been
assigned a 440 MHz freq for a link, most likely YOU would be the
one in violation if YOU start operating simplex or set up a repeater
on that freq.

Jammer idiots in LA have tried to use this arguement to justify
their antics on 2 meters and have lost every time.


>> I have a right to transmit on your repeaters input
>>>frequency if it is not in use.
>>
>>Maybe.....maybe not.  Depends on local coordination.
>>
>>Local coordination ideally should encourage a wide diversity of
>>uses for spectrum.  If I have been coordinated exclusively on a
>>link frequency, you don't have the right to squat there just because
>>you don't hear me using it.
>
>You have no exclusive right to *any* frequency in the amateur service.
>

Read my comments above.  Or better yet, get a copy of the
FCC Rule Book from the ARRL.  They do a pretty good job of
explaining why you can't always operate anywhere you want.


-- 
 Tad Cook     |  Phone:  206-527-4089  (home)     |   MCI Mail: 3288544   
 Seattle, WA  |  Packet: KT7H @ N7DUO.WA.USA.NA   |   3288544@mcimail.com 
              |  Internet: tad@ssc.com           or...sumax!ole!ssc!tad   
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Date: 30 Dec 92 21:13:19 GMT
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems

In article <qXwgwB2w165w@beagle.UUCP> chandler@beagle.UUCP (Jim Chandler) writes:
>While I'm on the subject, is there anyone out there with suggestions for a
>1.2 GHz repeater system?  Also, I would like to here with anyone who has an
>S-Com controller.

Our repeater uses the S-Com 5k. I'll answer any questions I can about it.
It's an excellent low cost low maintenance controller with enough flexibility
to handle a normal repeater.

Gary
-- 
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary      
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     | emory!ke4zv!gary@gatech.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Kirk.Smith@launchpad.unc.edu (Kirk Smith)
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 20:19:49 GMT

A ha.  I see I've found the hidden cost of amateur radio repeaters.  $2000
a year in site rental fees?  Isn't there an exemption for amateur radio
since it's non-profit?  I know the local ham club is trying to get various
companies (AT&T, etc) to donate site space based on their community
service activities (RACES, etc).  

For that much loot, it's a wonder anyone would bother putting up a ham
repeater.  I'm not entirely sure I'd do it.  I'd be more likely to
coordinate a business band freq and put a repeater on that, so I could
order pizza on my autopatch.  :-)

-ks

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        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
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From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: RE: writing out -- --- .-. ... . in order to pass your exam
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Gannett Technologies Group
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 09:39:50 GMT

In article <14570569@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com> alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom) writes:
>In rec.radio.amateur.misc, ham@wam.umd.edu (Scott Richard Rosenfeld) writes:
>
>>One must COPY the code.  I used to think that writing down dots and dashes
>>was OK.  After some discussion, I realized that this is not actually "Compre-
>>hension."  People don't copy like this on the air, nor is it feasible.  
>>Writing down dots & dashes I can probably do 40 wpm, but only later can I
>>go back and figure it out...
>
>Take my word for it, there's no way you could write down the dots and
>dashes at 40 wpm.  I practiced for months to learn how to write fast
>enough to get my 40 wpm sticker from W1AW.  Writing dots and dashes is
>much slower than writing letters.

That certainly depends on your handwriting ability. I can only do about
two words a minute legibly in cursive, and about 15 in block print. But
I can slash down dots and dashes in one hell of a hurry. The trick is to
use vertical marks rather than horizontal marks. Short bar for dot and
tall bar for dash. It's also a quite compact notation. If you have motor
coordination difficulties like I do, writing letters is a difficult 
process. Thank God for computer text processing.

>By the way, in my experience as a test examiner, I have had several
>people try to copy by writing down the dots/dashes.  None of them were
>able to pass the test this way.  I think if you can't copy the normal 
>way, you probably can't do it by adding another translation step.

Old Sammy Morse thought putting the dots and dashes down on paper and
"reading" the code *was* the normal way. It's the way he invented it
and did it. If it's good enough for old Sammy.....

Gary KE4ZV

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: wa2ise@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (robert.f.casey)
Subject: NO mods for the HTX202
Keywords: mods
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 12:56:54 GMT


copied from packet:
  Msg# TSF   Size #Rd  Date  Time  Arrived Seq #      Msg ID      Route
  1083 BF    1501   1 20-Dec 0624z 23-Dec (042997 - 1116_N0LLY  ) []
  N0OFG  ==>  ALL@USBBS
  "HTX202 MODS"

HELLO,
  WE'RE STILL SEEING ON OUR BBS'S AROUND TOPEKA MESSAGES FROM PEOPLE WANTING 
MODIFICATION INFORMATION FOR THEIR REALISTIC HTX 202'S. FOLKS, THERE ARE NO, I 
REPEAT, ZERO, MODS YOU CAN DO ON THAT RADIO WITHOUT KILLING THE HT PERMANENTLY.
YOU CLIP ANYTHING IN ANYTHING INSIDE AND YOU MAY AS WELL SHOOT THE THING WITH 
A .45 PERIOD. IT CAME OUT LAST APRIL SOMEONE HAD MODS FOR IT WHICH ENDED UP 
BEING AN EXPENSIVE APRIL FOOL'S DAY PRANK FOR SOME FOLKS. JUST LET IT GO AS
A NICE HAM BAND ONLY HT AND BE HAPPY WITH ITS EXCELLENT UNWANTED SIGNAL 
REJECTION.
73 FROM AN HTX 202 OWNER JON N0OFG

----------

For some strange reason, I've seen some bogus mods for the above radio.
One article I read says that one mod to remove a certian resistor actually
removes high power mode.  So my disclaimer to proceed at your own risk
applies especially to this radio.   WA2ISE
From: rc@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov (Robert Carpenter)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Proposal ....
Date: 2 Jan 93 03:44:31 GMT
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology
	formerly National Bureau of Standards
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu


Based on the sad stories of people waiting months to receive their ticket
from Gettysburg, maybe we need a "sig" for them.

Back during WW II, when station licenses and calls weren't being issued,
people who passed the ham operator's exam (and got THAT ticket) would call
themselves  "Joe Newby, LSPH"  (Licensed Since Pearl Harbor).
   (Today, unlike the 40s, ham operator and station licenses are automatically
    issued together.)

What should the "waiters" be called today?
    PNAW = Passed Novice And Waiting
    PTAW = Passed Tech And Waiting
    NWFG = Novice Waiting For Gettysburg
    TWFG = Tech Waiting For Gettysburg
    IPTJB8W = I Passed the Tech in January and it's Been 8 Weeks
	etc.

73,  Bob  W3OTC
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: ka1gt@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (robert.m.atkins)
Subject: Xtended coverage (118-136) on ALINCO DJ-F1T (FCC, how to get it?)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 19:47:46 GMT
Keywords: FCC, rules, ALINCO, new policy

I just got (and returned to AES because of some problems) an ALINCO DJ-F1T
2m handheld. It has 118-136 MHz (AM) coverage "after modification". The
included manual mentions this, but does not give any info on how to do it
(I understand you cut a wire somewhere). I called ALINCO, who were very nice
but said that they were no longer allowed to give out any information about
the mod, because of some FCC problems. They did not go into any kind of
details about exactly what these problems were. SO, can anyone point me to
a source of information about this radio and the modifications required for
extended coverage. I appologise if this is a frequently occuring question.
Please email replies if convenient, to save bandwidth here and because I
do not always get a chance to read this newsgroup before messages are deleted
because of "old age!". By the way, the DJ-F1T seems like a very nice radio
(mine was returned because the display illumination was bad). Thanks in
advance,

Bob Atkins  KA1GT

===============================================================
Bob Atkins  AT&T Bell Labs  email (direct)  att!clockwise!rma
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: pjml@swmis.nerc-swindon.ac.UK (Pete Lucas)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Silly Phonetics
Date: 22 Dec 92 10:22:54 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu


Try:
 
P as in PHEASANT (or Pterodactyl)
G as in GNOSTIC
W as in WHILE
X as in Xylophone
E as in Euphonium  :-) !!
B as in Bdellium (a type of gum, the B is silent......)
 
No doubt there are more...
 
Pete Lucas   G6WBJ    PJML@swmis.nsw.ac.uk