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From: stacc0@quantum.fiu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Fundamental problem of China
Date: 23 Jul 92 13:17:45 GMT
Organization: Florida International University, Miami


In article <1992Jul21.041748.874@oracle.us.oracle.com> kwee@oracle.uucp writes: 
|From: joe@astro.as.utexas.edu (Joe Wang):
|>In the PRC, you have had a private economy growing along side the
|>centrally planned one.  The advantage of this method is that the
|>transition between from central to private economies can be taken with
|>much less social unrest.
| 
|To tell you the truth, I'd like to see these two methods exchanged between
|China and Eastern Europe.  The Chinese people are much more sharp-minded
|and eager to find and take advantage of new opportunities.  They are also
|more willing to accept what environment the govt creates and cause less
|unrest.
 
These two (Chinese are more economics-oriented and more tolerent to
government control) are precisely the reasons that a Russian style
shock-treatment will bring far worse results. While Russian democrats
are too political to be interested in running a business, Chinese
reformers (and even hardliners) can quickly become successful business
tycoon. If all the heavy industry were to privatize today, ordinary
Chinese will be too smart to pour their money in while CCP officers
will have a better chance with their expertise and connections.
What prevent them to call on a all-out privatization and grab those
state-owned enterprises are the red-ink balence sheets those companies
have. Remember the wedding anouncement on SCC and then imagine an immediate
privatization of weapon-export industry, get a picture?

The hope is to privatize those sectors like agriculture and service where
you need more common sense but less organization skills, that's where
ordinary Chinese have advantage over CCP officials. And then nudge
into energy, transportation, and heavy industry sectors when common folks
have enough capital and enough experience (right now they can not handle
stock market yet).

Whether CCP has the will to relinquish their power is forever a academic
question, but whether CCP can rule the old way will be determined by
political (squabling between different factions) and economical (people
want a better life) forces. And I think they have already reached the
point of no return.
From: song@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (Song Cui)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Time: China has only 60 swimming pools
Date: 28 Jul 92 08:50:17 GMT
Organization: Electrical & Electronic Eng., The University of Adelaide

In article <1992Jul27.225602.29323@serval.net.wsu.edu> hlu@phys1.physics.wsu.edu (Hongjiu Lu) writes:
>|> I read this from World Journal: Why Chines won the Champaign Math
>|> Olympic? because they spent 365 days a year in math. Well for a loser,
>|> there is always something to say.

>If it was true (very likely), I would feel sorry for those kids. They would
>have missed one of the best time of their lives.

   But I do feel sorry for the "all confident" american kids -- they spend
the best of their time trying out various drugs and having sex --
when they cann't count numbers, they say something else.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: A1.CYW@isumvs.iastate.edu 
Subject: Tax-Free Goods
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:39:41 GMT

Dear Netters,

I would appreciate any information concerning the new regulation on tax-free
goods.  I will summarize the responses and post back to the group.
Thanks for your attention.

Charlie

Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:21512 rec.sport.olympics:1772
From: fortony@sonne.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Proud and Angry
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:50:15 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Originator: fortony@murphy

kai1@dasher.uucp (Kai Chiu) writes:

>In article <fortony.712455562@murphy> fortony@sonne.cso.uiuc.edu writes:

> How can you get to see their face expressions or notice them if
> NBC doesn't allow you to, can you figure this out?

NBC showed the Chinese athlete several times when she was getting out
of the pool after a dive or getting ready to perform one. 

> happy. Gee, I thought people are a lot smarter.  

If the extent of the argument several people are putting up here is
that I am "not smart", then please take it to e-mail so the rest of
the net doesn't have to put up with it.

>Kai Chiu
>kai1@dasher.cc.bellcore.com
>Bell Communications Research, Inc.              
>Tel: (908) 699-7338 
-- 
a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
Felix Sebastian Ortony	fortony@murphy.gis.uiuc.edu
From: yzhang@math12.math.umbc.edu (Yin Zhang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Chicago Tribune: How Zhuang Won Gold Medal
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:56:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: umbc3.1992Jul28.165639.6557
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus

In article <13802@mindlink.bc.ca> Sanyee_Tang@mindlink.bc.ca 
(Sanyee Tang) writes:
>
>    Zhuang Yong's physique looks exactly like Li's.  Fortunately, the Silver
>Medallist Jenny Thompson is a fair-looking girl, it convinced me that Zhuang's
>record is reachable for women.
>

What record are you talking about?  Is Jenny Thompson the one who is
holding that world record?

I assume that the Chinese female swimmers in the contests all have
passed the gender test and drug test.  So a gold medal is a gold
medal.  Remember this is Olympics, not one of those Miss Universe
contests where the prettiest girl wins.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yjj@janus.ctr.columbia.edu (Yuan Jiang)
Subject: Re: Chicago Tribune: How Zhuang Won Gold Medal
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:10:54 GMT
X-Posted-From: janus.ctr.columbia.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Jul28.143345.11307@mcs.kent.edu> jhuang@Chaos.mcs.kent.edu (Jing Huang) writes:
>In article <13802@mindlink.bc.ca> Sanyee_Tang@mindlink.bc.ca (Sanyee Tang) writes:
>>    In article <1992Jul28.031851.4915@ctr.columbia.edu> (28 Jul 1992)
>>Yuan Jiang writes,
>>
>>
>	Have you guys also studied Mary Ellen Clark who took the bronze for
>Women's 10-meter platform? She looks like a man to me.

Divers need precision not muscles.  Muscle growth steroid does
not help them and can only ruin their performance.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xye@voronoi.cs.jhu.edu (Brian Ye)
Subject: IFCSS: your 800 number please!
Keywords: Health Insurance
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:44:50 GMT

Would somebody please send me the 800 number for signing up with the IFCSS
sponsored health insurance policy ?

thanx
-- 
________________________________________________________________________
Xiaoxia  Ye (Brian)
Johns Hopkins University 	    INTERNET/BITNET/UUCP: xye@cs.jhu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,rec.sport.olympics
From: solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky)
Subject: Re: Proud and Angry
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 06:39:50 GMT

In article <1079@pga.ts.com>, pk99nom@pga.ts.com (Pal K.) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul30.192411.20300@athena.mit.edu> solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky) writes:
|> >
|> >I can't say that I find it surprising that country which practically bans
|> >sexuality and whose citizens have hardly any contact with the outside world
|> >isn't bringing AIDs to the olympics.
|> >
|> >I think we should admire the absence of HIV in the Communist Chinese Olympic
|> >team. We should also note that some of the measures taken to prevent HIV are
|> >done on a voluntary basis. After all, we Americans don't have the courage to
|> >drown all of our female children. This voluntary action by Chineese parents
|> >should be parised. Why, in a few decades, there will hardly be any women left,
|> >thus dramatically cutting down on sex, thus preventing one of the primary
|> >routes for the spread of aids.
|> 
|> I have never thought that I would defend Chinese morality.:-) :-)
|> 
|> However this piece of post make me decide to say something. Although
|> Mr Chunde Shi certainly owes an apology to Magic Johnson and
|> American Olympic team for saying his highly insensitive and
|> completely stupid words about HIV, (as he always did in this net,)
|> you, Mr. Jason W. Solinsky, owes an apology to all Chinese parents.

I reserve the right to return any absolutely notionalistic flame with an
equally nationalistic and disgusting flame. A post like the one I responded
to is begging me flame back. The standards of decency one is held to is
determined by his her surroundings. I would say that I matched the context
with that one. People who get offended by flames should know better
than to read followups to wildly flamming posts like the original.

Jason W. Solinsky
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: jamesou@ZYGOTE.HSC.USC.EDU (James Ou)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Three Ladies Walk Together ...
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:56:58 GMT

In <199207222204.AA03752@thames.bu.edu>, lix@BUCRSB.BU.EDU
writes:

>From Dr. Johnny himself, he asked tuition
>(becon) and tought. There was no father-son realtion between him and
>his 3,000+ unders and 70+ graduates.

Of course not, his students treated him like a saint. :-) So Yan2
Hui2 said, "Fu1 Zi3 Zhi1 Dao4, Yang3 Zhi1 Mi2 Gao1, Zuan1 Zhi1
Mi2 Jian1, Zhan1 Zhi1 Zai4 Qian2, Hu1 Yan1 Zai4 Hou4." (The
teaching of our teacher is so great. The more you look at it, the
higher it is; the more you try to poke it, the harder it turns.
Sometimes it seems to be right in front of you, but all of a
sudden it disappears and hides behind you.) This is what I called
the "all-capable" and "in-explanable" teachings of Confucius. :-)

>Later, no matter Shu Si, Xi1 Xi2,
>up to TaiZi TaiSi + 9 Sn, all are employees, though TaiZi TaiSi + 9 Sn
>is usually a dangerous employee.

It is called "Tai4 Zi3 Tai4 Fu4" or "Tai4 Zi3 Shao4 Fu4" (the
teachers of the prince). :-)  Yes, often if the prince had a bad
behavior then the teacher would be punished by the emperor.
In the Three-word poem (San1 Zi4 Jing1), Shi1(teacher) and
Fu4(father) are co-listed:

     Zi3 Bu2 Jiao4, Fu4 Zhi1 Guo4,
	(If the son is not taught, it is his father's fault.)
     Jiao4 Bu4 Yan2, Shi1 Zhi1 Duo4.
	(If the teaching is not strict, the teacher is lazy.)

Actually, "Yi2 Ri4 Wei2 Shi1, Zhong1 Sheng1 Wei2 Fu4" is like "Fu1 Si3
Chong2 Zi3". They are just sayings, not many people actually did that.

>I mean Dr. Han Yu, the guy like me in regards
>of Fa Chang Chang, Shi Mang Mang, teeth loosing.

Lix, I think you are too old for that statement of Han2 Yu4,
because you are over forty. :-) The original statement was:

   Wu2 Nian2 Wei4 Si4 Shi2, Er2 Shi4 Mang2 Mang2, Er2 Fa3 Cang1
   Cang1, Er2 Chi3 Ya2 Dong4 Yao2.
   (I am not yet forty, but my hair is already grey, my vision is
    losing and my teeth are wiggling.)

>The quotation in your
>both articles are from his "On the definition and function of a teacher"
>(Si Suo). That is classical Confucianist definition.

You mean Han2 Yu4 committed plagiarism? :-) Yes, you are right,
thank you for the correction, the definition of "teacher" that I
quoted was from "Shi1 Shuo1". However, "Wen2 Dao4 You3 Xian1 Hou4"
was originally from "Lun2 Yu3".
From: Tuya@ccmail.uoregon.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: About 3-kingdom
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:22:00 GMT


          1.  A friend asked me about the English title of the
              3-kingdom book, I don't know and hope people can post
              here.

          2.  Many friends asked the original of the 3-kingdom poem,
              Here it is based on my memory.  You3 shi4 zhi1 shi4 feel
              free to change if you think you are better than Luo
              Guan zhong:

          guan3 guan3 da4jiang dong1 shi4 shui3
          lang4hua1 tao2 jin4 ying1 xiong2 
          shi4 fei1 cheng2 bai4 zhuan3 tou2 kong1
          jing1shan yi1jiu4 zai4 
          ji2 du4 xi1 yang2 hong2

          bai2fa yu2weng1 jiang1zhu3 shang4
          guan4kan4 qiu1yue4 chun1feng1
          yi4bei1 zhuo2 jiu3 xi3 xiang1 feng2
          gu3jin1 duo1shao3 shi4
          dou1 zai4 xiao4 tan2 zhong1.

          3.  Many people gave their version of translations about the
              setting sun sentence above.  After reading this whole
              thing you might want to revise what you said.  I will
              post the summary and give the best :-) soon.  Of course
              given that we already had so much trouble just
              translating two sentences, it is beyond human ability
              to get the whole poem translated.  That's fine because
              we have to zheng4 shi4 our limits. 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: Give Me a Break: China to Buy Ford Tempos from U.S.
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:30:09 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.165334.1731@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> xiong@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Bo Xiong) writes:
>In article <1992Jul30.161451.25809@news.iastate.edu> zzuo@iastate.edu 
>(Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>>>
>>>>$10,631 a copy.  [Ford Tempos]
>>>
>>>That's too high :(
>>
>>Not high, if the shipping fee is included.
>
>Boy, have you ever visited a Japanese Car Dealer?  If not, then do
>it today, or to save you time, the destination charge for a Japanese
>car to be shipped via sea freight from Japan to the U.S.A. is about 
>$450 as displayed on the price tag.
>
>Does the destination charge make difference to the deal?
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Bo Xiong in Chicago

Oh, girl, two quite trivial questions: Is $10,200 a good deal for a car 
with some parts of its kind accompanying it? Is $500 big for a car?

PS: With this deal, maybe some other businesses are going on. I can't
tell the politics behind it. Can just make some guess here.  A friend 
told me that one reason may be CG's trying to strength the business 
linkage since everything can happen in the presidential campaign. US 
government is going to rent three warships to Taiwan. The two Chinese 
bills by the Congress are going on there at the same time. All of these
must be strong signals, to the aim of openning door for american 
products to China. What does the US government care the most? Domestic
economy. This is before everything. Various of other noble claims are
just smokes.
From: stacc0@quantum.fiu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Three Ladies Walk Together ...
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:13:35 GMT
Organization: Florida International University, Miami


In article <CMM.0.90.2.711747819.jamesou@zygote.hsc.usc.edu> (James Ou) writes:
|In <13600@mindlink.bc.ca>, Sanyee_Tang@mindlink.bc.ca (Sanyee Tang)
|writes,
|>As we Chinese said, "once a student, be a student forever."
|
|Did Chinese really say that? :-)  I thought Chinese said, "once
|your teacher, forever your father." (Yi2 Ri4 Wei2 Shi1, Zhong1
|Sheng1 Wei2 Fu4).

This misinformation campaign is getting worse and worse. The Chinese
saying is Yi1Ri4 Shou4Jiao4, Zhong1Sheng1 Wei2 Shi1 (He/She whom 
you took lesson even for one day from shall be respected as your
teacher for the rest of your life). Chinese respect their teacher
a lot, but in no way the position of father can be compromised.
West Cu3's super-emperor, Xiang4Yv3, had an old teacher Fan4Zen1, Yv3
addressed Fan4 as 'silver-medal father' (Ya4Fu4), which was the
highest honor ever granded to a teacher.
From: pk99nom@pga.ts.com (Pal K.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Three Ladies Walk Together ...
Date: 23 Jul 92 23:44:18 GMT
Reply-To: pk99nom@pga.ts.com (Pal K.)
Organization: Unknown

In article <CMM.0.90.2.711849288.jamesou@zygote.hsc.usc.edu> jamesou@ZYGOTE.HSC.USC.EDU (James Ou) writes:
>
>     Zhong1 Cheng2 Bu2 Shi4 Er4 Zhu3,
>     Lie4   Nuu3   Bu2 Shi4 Er4 Fu1.
>     (A loyal minister does not serve two kings, and a ? lady does
>      not marry two guys.)
>
>Pal K. is likely going to blame this statement on Li3 Xue2 scholars
>again. :-)
>

Hmm. The couplet does not sounds like written by one of the infamous
LiXue elites. But still one can smell the odor of them.

I once tried to read through those Lie4 Nyu3 Zhuan4, and got
totally pissed off. To me Lie4 Nyu3 ("chaste" women) are more likely
some Lie4 Nyu3 (bad, deficient, ugly women.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: mxx7655@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: incident
Reply-To: mxx7655@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 02:33:16 GMT

In article <2A6AF511.9432@noiro.acs.uci.edu>, yeh@netix.com (Mr Shannon Yeh) writes:
>"even if there is no reform/open policy in China, the CHinese people still can
>afford TV/frigerators (i.e., even if Mr. Chen YongGui acts as the emperor of
>China, the Chinese still can buy those "modern" appliance), provided with the
>natural growth and world economy affection on China".  --Shannon T Yeh
>..........
>..........
>Up to today, i have no response from Deng Xiaoping or its alliance regarding 
>my comments on Deng's have-milk-is-mother philosophy.
>
>shannon
>-------
     One thing certaintly different if there were no reform/open policy in
China is your Dear Chairman Mao would simply not allow you to come to the
States enjoying the freedom to express your fancy ideas over the net.(of cause,
you still can say "Chinses people still can do it,provided .....")
     It is a well known fact that the reform/open policy has greatly improved 
the Chinese people's living standard,especially the majority of peasants.Of 
cause,even if Chen YongGui were in power,I beleive he finally would be forced 
by the pressure of world economy development and domestic demand to reform and
have a open policy.But,that process probably will delay much longer than we are
having right now.You really should base you conclusion on the fact not only on
the temptation to have whatever opposite opinion to what most people think.

     My simple comparison between Mao and Deng:
	Mao has more talent than Deng.
	Mao is more capable and eager to destroy things.
	Deng is more practical and willing to improve people's live.
	Both are creative and decisive and Mao is crazy.
Conclusion: if you want to live peacefully and improve your life, Deng is much,
	    much more preferable to Mao.
From: lzh@cco.caltech.edu (Zhaohong Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Olympic: Lin Li won gold
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:11:08 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena

Lin Li def Sanders to take the women's 200m 
individual medley gold.
US won two gold in other swimming events.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: D61O@br2.hrz.th-darmstadt.de (One of 100 millions ZHANGs)
Subject: Re: Time: China has only 60 swimming pools
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 10:43:49 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20
Organization: Technical University Darmstadt, Germany

In <1992Jul23.002704.6614@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu writes:

< In article <yzhou.711841548@void> yzhou@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Ya Zhou) writes:
< >x0y3510@tamuts.tamu.edu (Xuejun Yang) writes:
< >
< Olympic Mathmatics contest:
<    China No.1
<    U.S.  No.2
<    Romania N0.3
<    CIA    No4.
     ***

What is this standing for? CIS? 

< Most U.S. team members are ethinic Chinese!
< I wonder what U.S. media wills say about this.
< Probably: Chinese are high skilled cheaters on Exame!

======================================================================
J.Z.
d61o@br2.hrz.th-darmstadt.de
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yfeng@kirk.ecs.umass.edu (Youlin Feng)
Subject:  Tan Liangde lost, swimmer won  
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:27:43 GMT


Mark Lenzi of the U.S. took the Gold of the 3m Springboard.
Tan Liangde got a Silver. Just can't believe it.

A Chinese girl grabbed another Gold in 100m Breaststroke with a new
Olympic Record, American took silver.

Lost one, got one.
                     From the latest CNN Sports 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yxy413@huxley.anu.edu.au (Yongzheng Yang)
Subject: Looking for Yu Hong
Summary: Looking for missing friends
Keywords: Friends
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
Date: 21 Jul 92 03:13:47 GMT

I am looking for my friend YU Hong from Beijing Agricultural University.
YU Hong studies in Germany.  I would appreciate very much if Yu Hong 
could reply to me, or if anyone who knows where she is could send an
E-mail to me.  My E-mail address is    yxy413@huxley.anu.edu.au.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: onghiok@ling.nthu.edu.tw (H.Samual Wang (035)715131-4398)
Subject: Re: Question for Shi Chunde
Organization: National Tsing Hua University (HsinChu)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 02:31:59 GMT

> >United States does not change the status of southern states. China has the legal
> >claim on the territory Taiwan. Chinese people has all of the legal rights on 
> >the territory Taiwan.
> >
This reminds me of a statement made by the Chinese government when they are
negotiating with the British government on the fate of Hong Kong after 1997:
"Should we listen to the will of 1 billion people or should we listen to
the will of 10 million (?) people?" So Hong Kong rightfully belongs to 
China.  Good argument.  Following this line of argument, they should listen
to the will of 1 billion people instead of 20 million peopl and rightfully
swallow Taiwan; they should listen to the will of 1 billion people instead
of 100 million (?) people and swallow Japan; they should listen to the will
of 1 billion people instead of 200 million (?) people and swallow US.  Of
course all these are done rightfully, because we are talking democracy.
Then China will become a GREAT nation.

S.W.
From: Dan_Jacobson@ATT.COM
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Bring money from China to US
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:02:11 GMT
	<1992Jul20.210329.1539@ucbeh.san.uc.edu>
Organization: AT&T-BL, Naperville IL, USA

>>>>> On 20 Jul 92 21:03:29 EST, yuanj@ucbeh.san.uc.edu said:

yuanj> Make sure it is not the US customs official because if you have
yuanj> large amount of money from abroad, you are supposed to claim at
yuanj> the customs upon entering the US.  I wonder if they would
yuanj> relate your money with illegal drugs.

If they suspect it is drug money they might take it and never give it
back, even if you aren't charged with a crime.  There were reports on
these forfeiture laws recently on the US "60 Minutes" TV show and
other shows.
-- 
Dan_Jacobson@ATT.COM Naperville IL USA Chinese~{;}5$Da~}Ji1Dan1ni2
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: Question for Shi Chunde
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 17:57:31 GMT

In article <k+S-8DB@engin.umich.edu> chen@caen.engin.umich.edu (Jian Chen) writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.080705.12773@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rsanders@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (RRobert M Sanders) writes:
>>
>>I have been following your postings now for several weeks and to be quite 
>>honest, you are sort of an enigma to me.  Given your unwaivering certitude of 
>>the moral, intellectual and ecoconomic superiority of China over every other 
>>country in the world, regardless of the issue at hand:
>
>Let me answer the questions for Shi Chunde
>
>>
>>1.  What has kept you from returning to China?
>
>He never said he would not return to China. Qian XieSheng, the
>father of Chinese rockets Long March series, stayed in USA for
>more than 20 years and was a professor in MIT before he returned 
>to China. On the time he left USA, the Secretary of State said 
>he was worth a division of army. Prof Qian has proven that he 
>is worth more than it.
>
>How much Shi Chunde will be worth when he returns to China?
>I guess more than 1 division of army.
A penny!
>
>>
>>2.  What possible attraction does the US have for you?
>
>His university needs him and employed him. This is the reason
>for him to stay.
>
>>
>>Please do not get the impression that I am asking you to leave.  
>
>Well, maybe, you are afraid of another division of army will
>leave USA and join China.
>
>>
>>Robert Sanders
>
>J Chen
>Department of Chemistry
>University of Michigan