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From: callum@bain3.bain.oz.au (Callum Gibson)
Subject: Re: Aqunias on faith & purgatory
Organization: Bain & Company, Sydney, AUSTRALIA
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 00:03:42 GMT

ricko@ee.uts.edu.au (Rick Jelliffe) writes:
> (Please don't write to me  saying Jesus' blood washes total clean: I believe.
> Read the quotes: the Catholic notion of purgatory talks about the initial
> steps of a saved dead person and how God conforms us for his presence.) 

Well, the question I have is this.  If Jesus blood does wash totally clean,
then how can a saved person not go to heaven?  What other conforming is there
to perform?  According to Hebrews we take on the righteousness of Christ
when we face judgement.  We are also told our sins are forgiven and forgotten.
Why the extra punishment?

regards,
    Callum
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Newsgroups: aus.religion
From: pope@physics.su.OZ.AU (The Nightstalker)
Subject:  Sydney Church of Christ
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 03:43:13 GMT


I was approached yesterday by someone from the SCOC, wanting me to go to a
meeting, and to a service.  I have not heard good things about the church,
but would like to see for myself.  Is there anyone who can fill me in on
a few details about their beliefs and doctrine??

Cheers,

In Christ
Mick....


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at the other guy's."   -- Hal Hickman
From: awhenan@physics.adelaide.edu.au (Ashley Whenan)
Newsgroups: aus.religion
Subject: I will pray for you all.
Date: 30 Jul 92 04:42:08 GMT


Oh you poor lost souls, you are all offending our lord with your words of
question, your parochial rhetoric and your misguided beliefs.  

I will pray that he forgives you.

Kindess,
	A.
From: awhenan@physics.adelaide.edu.au (Ashley Whenan)
Newsgroups: aus.religion
Subject: Re: Superstar?
Keywords: humanism
Date: 26 Jul 92 07:58:23 GMT

pope@physics.su.OZ.AU (The Nightstalker) writes:

>In article <1992Jul19.231825.13006@bain3.bain.oz.au> callum@bain3.bain.oz.au (Callum Gibson) writes:

>[much deleted for brevity]

>>Am I expecting too much of Superstar?  Sure, it's meant to be entertainment.
>>thought about Jesus", as if they've heard the real story.  Well, the real
>>story is in the Bible, not on a CD.
>>regards,
>>    Callum

>Yes, and no.  What else could you expect from a secular writer???  Perhaps his
>attitudes towards christianity came through in the writing.  Obviously he
>missed the point!
>Indeed, the real story is in the bible, and in our lives if we are responsible
>believers and followers.


You truly do have a strange rhetoric.  How can you possible say the real story
is in the bible, when it has been translated a good many times from it's
original writings (Hebrew -> Olde English etc etc).  The interpretation made
in Jesus Christ Super Star is just as valid as any other version.  If you
claim that your bible is the real story, then you are no less secular than the
writers of JCSS.  For that matter, how can one ever criticise the working of
M.Scorcese's film "The Last Temptation of Christ" on the grounds of secularism
or dare I say it, heresy.

Kind Regards,
           
Newsgroups: aus.religion
From: sliew@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au (Selbyn Liew)
Subject: Re: Throwing Stones??? (Was Re: St Thomas quotes- ACIM quotes too: -)
Organization: Electrical and Electronic - University of Melbourne 
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 13:23:57 GMT

In article <1992Jul13.095752.1@lure.latrobe.edu.au> lhccjeh@lure.latrobe.edu.au writes:
>I also make no assertions. 
>If you like I can speak more plainly.
>I don't think anyone here knows the truth. We ALL know bits of it.
>We ALL see out world through these bits. Hmm, like a kaleidescope, that's
>nice as it fits in with the analogy that began this.
>I am truly sorry if you were able to construe my statements, as quoted above,
>as an attack on Christians.

Hi again (after a long absence)!  I am truly sorry also that you don't know
the Truth.  Praise God, the Truth is a Person, and we can all know a person
can't we?  And He happens to be Jesus of Nazareth, how wonderful!  I just
got to hear a bit more of what He is still doing today this week, just as He
was doing when He was bodily with us 2000 years ago.  You know, if we know
a person, we know the whole person, head, arms, legs and all.  Man, how can
one just know bits of Him - that's pathetic.  We either know the Truth, or
we don't at all.  Why settle for "bits", James?  Man, if you just get to
know Him you will really see what ACIM is really all about.

In Christ,
S. Liew
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From: ripng@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (PAUL NG)
Subject: The Bible
Organization: Halls of Residence, Monash University 
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:07:14 GMT

I'm new to this, can somebody tell me what ACIM is all about?
Newsgroups: aus.religion
From: jimu@orthanc.cs.su.oz.au (James Uther)
Subject: Re: WCC and Ecumenical Movement (?)
Reply-To: jimu@orthanc.cs.su.oz.au (James Uther)
Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 02:50:10 GMT

I don't actually know all that much, but i'll tell what I can. The ecumenical
movement is a movement of reconciliation between churches. It is an attempt
to find common ground upon which to act, and settle the feuding for which the 
christian church as a whole has been rightly criticised. It is a large movement,
supported by many top members of most major churches, but fundamentaist groups
tend to stay away (being unwilling to listen to other views).
The WCC is a meeting held every 7 (?) years, last held in Canberra around 
Christmass last year(?). It, again, is large for a church gathering, with 
church heads from many countries attending. It's here that you can really see
the diversity in the movement, with everyone showing off their favorite 
liturgies and stuff.
I didn't attend the WCC, although I belong to a group (Student Christian
Movement) that is a strong supporter of the movement, and that group was well
represented. That's about all I can say. May not all be accurate, but hope
it helps.
	james
Newsgroups: aus.parallel,aus.general,comp.sys.super,comp.sys.transputer,comp.arch
From: pgw@koel.mel.dit.CSIRO.AU (Paul Whiting)
Subject: Directory of Australian Parallel Processing Research available
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 01:16:09 GMT

The "Directory of Australian Parallel Processing Research" which has
been compiled over the first half of 1992 by the High Performance Computation
Program of the CSIRO is now available.

Sorry for the long delay but the sheer volume of the number of
entries, the formatting required by the entries and other commitments
meant that the release date took much longer than we originally
intended.

Due to the size of the document (~130 pages or 200K postscript file) we
are mainly distributing it in electronic form. To obtain your copy
please email your request to:-

ppd@mel.dit.csiro.au

This will allow us to determine whether we should update the directory
next year.

We also have a limited number of 2 entries per page, doubled-sided
hardcopies of the document. To obtain a copy, once again email your
request to:-

ppd@mel.dit.csiro.au

In both cases, DO NOT SEND YOUR REQUEST TO ME!

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Newsgroups: aus.mail
From: mkwan@esk (Michael C. KWAN)
Subject: How to contact Victoria Uni. Tec. by e-mail
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 04:20:17 GMT

Hi,

	Can some tell me the e-mail address of VUT, my friend is doing
Computer Technology over there, I want to contact him.

	Thanks in adavace.


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Newsgroups: aus.mail
From: mkwan@esk (Michael C. KWAN)
Subject: How to contact Monash Uni. by e-mail
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 04:24:27 GMT

Hi,

	Can some tell me the e-mail address of Monash Uni., Mech. Eng. Dep.
I would like to talk to my friend over there.

	Thanks in advance.

              /\                           Michael C. KWAN
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      /           \                        mkwan@pieman.compserv.utas.edu.au
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      \   ____    /                        University of Tasmania, Launceston
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Newsgroups: aus.mail
From: ajaaku@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (A. Jaaku)
Subject: finding addresses in aus
Organization: U of Toronto Computing Services
Distribution: aus.mail
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 12:31:12 GMT


I know there is a way to query for addresses in Australia
using an automatic program but have misplaced the
information on how to do it.  Any and all suggestions
would be very welcome.

Thanks

Andres:  ajaaku@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca

Newsgroups: aus.mail
From: pte900@jatz.aarnet.edu.au (Peter Elford)
Subject: Re: How to contact Monash Uni. by e-mail
Reply-To: P.Elford@aarnet.edu.au
Organization: AARNet
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 04:25:55 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.042427.15259@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au>, mkwan@esk (Michael C. KWAN) writes:
|> Hi,
|> 
|> 	Can some tell me the e-mail address of Monash Uni., Mech. Eng. Dep.
|> I would like to talk to my friend over there.

Try postmaster@monash.edu.au

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Newsgroups: aus.mail
From: pte900@jatz.aarnet.edu.au (Peter Elford)
Subject: Re: How to contact Victoria Uni. Tec. by e-mail
Reply-To: P.Elford@aarnet.edu.au
Organization: AARNet
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 04:10:39 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.042017.14185@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au>, mkwan@esk (Michael C. KWAN) writes:
|> Hi,
|> 
|> 	Can some tell me the e-mail address of VUT, my friend is doing
|> Computer Technology over there, I want to contact him.

Try postmaster@vut.edu.au

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From: hamish@cloud.pub.uu.oz.au (Hamish Moffatt)
Newsgroups: aus.films
Subject: Amazon Women on the Moon
Date: 19 Jul 92 21:36:14 GMT

Hello Martin!

Monday July 13 1992 07:26, Martin Caden wrote to All:

 MC> Mr Milton, are you aware of the penal code in this state? (wobble wobble)
 MC> But then again, I'm a gemini so ARGGGGRGGGGGRGG.....

That reminds me of National Lampoon's Vacation (the American one):

Do you know the penalty for cruelty to animals in this state?
No sir, I don't.
Well, it's probably pretty stiff.


:-)


Regards,
Hamish


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Newsgroups: aus.films
From: allanc@cs.su.oz.au (Restless Wanderer)
Subject: Re: Sleepwalker(s)
Reply-To: allanc@cluster.cs.su.oz (Restless Wanderer)
Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 06:29:26 GMT
Keywords: Wayne's World

Thanks to those who have posted/emailed.
I'll take the advise,wait till it comes out on vid,drink a bottle of port
and order the pizza.
Thanks to one gent who suggested,video ,port and forget the pizza,the movies
about to remove any digestable food.Since the plot was so slow.

Much appreciated. 
allanc

Newsgroups: aus.films
From: philip@labtam.labtam.oz.au (Philip Stephens)
Subject: Re: Wayne's World
Organization: Labtam Australia Pty. Ltd., Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 05:55:21 GMT
Keywords: Wayne's World

Rupert G. Goldie writes:

> I enjoyed Wayne's World, but I liked the Bill and Ted movies more (I also
>thought that B&Ts Bogus Journey was better than Excellent Adventure). Wayne's
>World seemed to be more of a series of jokes strung together, whereas the 
>Bill and Ted films had more plot.

  I agree with the above.  I also found that I couldn't see Wayne and Garth as
anything but two actors hamming it up in front of the camera; their
performances were just too over-the-top to be believable.  I _liked_ the
characters of Wayne and Garth, but I think that the actors were too
self-conscious of their roles.  In contrast, I thought that the characters of
Bill and Ted were portrayed better, plus the humour was more focussed than the
skit-like approach taken in Wayne's World.  So overall I'd have to say that
I enjoyed the Bill and Ted movies more.

--------------------------
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Labtam Australia Pty Ltd
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Newsgroups: aus.films
From: rgg@yarra-glen.aaii.oz.au (Rupert G. Goldie)
Subject: Re: Wayne's World
Keywords: Wayne's World
Organization: Australian Artificial Intelligence Institute
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 04:14:47 GMT

crmilton@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Christopher Robert MILTON) writes:

>It's a little like the first Bill and Ted (the 2nd one was a real dud I 
>thought) but it's about a 1000 times better and a lot of the jokes are more
>"mature". The soundtrack is great, there are cameo appearances by Alice
>Cooper and the "evil" terminator from T2, and 3 different endings to please
>everyone!!!

 I enjoyed Wayne's World, but I liked the Bill and Ted movies more (I also
thought that B&Ts Bogus Journey was better than Excellent Adventure). Wayne's
World seemed to be more of a series of jokes strung together, whereas the 
Bill and Ted films had more plot.

-Rupert
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Australian Artificial Intelligence Institute        
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Newsgroups: aus.films
From: ddrewery@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (David Drewery)
Subject: Re: Sleepwalker(s)
Keywords: Wayne's World
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 92 02:21:38 GMT

allanc@cs.su.oz.au (Restless Wanderer) writes:

>Any reviews on this movie,opinions ?
>Email if it has been hacked to death,please.


I went to see SleepWalkers a couple ofweeks back. It's not the best movie but itdid have some good special effects.
The story is very slow to move and there is not much to it. If they had         developed the story a little more it would have been great. 
It is essentially about two feline-like creatures, onw being the mother and the
other her only son. They are (supposedly) the last of their kind, although
they do not think so. They can not be killed by bullets (I think) however
if they are touched by a cat it burns them. 
The main jist of the story is that the mother has to be satisfied with the 
life of a virgin. They suck the life from people and it replenishes the mother's power. This proves to be difficult to the pair (as expected).

As I said before, it lacked storyline. It was very boring for the first 15 - 20
minutes. It's worth watching once but I wouldn't pay to go and see it again.


Rating:     3     
           ---
            10

Bye for now,

Dave D.
Date: 21 Jul 92 04:29:10 GMT
From: leroy@socs.uts.edu.au (Leroy)
Newsgroups: aus.films
Subject: Re: The Player

mary@macadam.mqcs.mq.oz.au (Mary Rose de la Cruz) writes:

>However, what I didn't understand was Scacchi's character's purpose for being.
>Does she satirise some part of Hollywood lowlife which I just didn't get?

It's another joke: Altman used Sacchi as the love interest to poke fun at the
people expecting Sacchi to go nude (again) - two other female characters do, but
you don't see more than Sacchi's shoulders. It's apparently also funny that 
the character lived in Hollywood but had nothing to do with movies.

>Actually, I expected the movie to be a more scathing portrayal of Hollywood's
>insides.  The way it turned out reflects how Altman still loves Hollywood,
>warts and all. He just gives it a slap on the wrist for being so naughty.
>Kinda like Steve Martin's treatment of L.A. in 'L.A. Story' don't you think?

LA Story really sentimentalised LA (but we loved it anyhow); this wasn't 
particulary nice to anyone - Griffin was an arsehole, his girfriend was more
of a cypher than a personality, and everyone else was on the make.

--

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in watching if it could be arranged.
Newsgroups: aus.films
Subject: Re: Knight Rider 2000
From: mbuc1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Matthew Richard     Buchanan       )
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:56:33 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland

In <tucker.712204742@kraken> tucker@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au (David Tucker) writes:

>rivers@dkas.enet.dec.com (Kim Rivers) writes:


>>Maybe they (the TV guys) finally decided to give the poor man something other
>>than a vastly outdated 1982 trans-am.   :)

>I remember seeing something about KR2000 ages ago. When will it be around?
>Is it a movie, or a TV show?

I just made a post to rec.arts.movies asking about it and got several replies
via email. Check out this group if you can. The gist (sp?) of the replies
was that it was a made for TV movie/pilot for a new series which never
got off the ground. David Hasselhoff starred and Kitt's processor had been
implanted into some woman's head. A new car (Pontiac Fiero, I believe) was
in there somewhere, and Devon was killed right at the start. Apparently it
aired in the States anywhere up to 2 years ago. Hope this helps...

>Thanks


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Newsgroups: aus.films
From: ken@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (Ken Yap)
Subject: negative matcher
Organization: CSIRO Division of Info Tech, Sydney, Australia
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 23:48:15 GMT

What does a Negative Matcher do?

Noelle Penraat seems to do a lot of negative matching for films from
around NYC. Woody Allen's films for instance. Is she a person or a
company?
From: John.Bennett@f305.n670.z3.fidonet.org (John Bennett)
Sender: acsnet@csource.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.films
Subject: Knight Rider 2000
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:29:00 +1000

* In a message originally to All, Joe Voros said:
JV> From: voros@physics.monash.edu.au (Joe Voros)
JV> KITT was made redundant by the march of progress.  He had a
JV> choice,
JV> either be melted down and sold as scrap, or be re-modelled
JV> and become a
JV> Johnny-Cab.  He chose to be melted down.
                    ^^^^^       ^^^^^^ ^^^^
Typical KITT.
      

JV> Joe Voros
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From: rivers@dkas.enet.dec.com (Kim Rivers)
Subject: Re: Knight Rider 2000
Reply-To: rivers@dkas.enet.dec.com (Kim Rivers)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Marlboro, MA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:10:48 GMT


Maybe they (the TV guys) finally decided to give the poor man something other
than a vastly outdated 1982 trans-am.   :)



kim  (here's hoping they don't give him a 1992 Trans-am.  Yuk)
From: John.Bennett@f305.n670.z3.fidonet.org (John Bennett)
Newsgroups: aus.films
Subject: Knight Rider 2000
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1992 18:43:00 +1000

 Giday All (yes that means you too)
                                 
         Was wondering if anybody could give me a bit of a preview 
to 'Knight Rider 2000'.
 Don't know much about it except he has a totally new car.
 
 What happened to KIT??
                                          
                       ...JOHN...
                                  
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From: kenrolph@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.films
Subject: previews & premieres
Date: 24 Jul 92 05:57:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:peg:506300004:000:768
Nf-From: peg.UUCP!kenrolph    Jul 24 00:57:00 1992


I sometimes get to see movie previews and premieres because I write 
reviews for On Being Magazine (published in Victoria). The nature of this 
magazine will probably become clearer as you see the kind of movies we 
write about. Since I already have the reviews on disk, I will try to get 
around to uploading them as text files, in case anyone is interested.

The last two movies that I reviewed were Backsliding and The Rapture.

_____________________________________________________________________

Ken Rolph                                  Blacktown, NSW Australia
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                                           kenrolph@peg.pegasus.oz.au
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