HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hal@budapest.math.macalstr.edu (Harold Byron Bouma)
Subject: Re: Sound files...
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 22:51:04 GMT

Joe Kohn writes
> 
> Re: Sampling Rates
> 
> I didn't mean to imply that rSounder didn't work. I works just fine, and
> since it is much more widely available, I'm sure most people will use it to
> convert sounds to rSound format. But, for me, since I already own
> HyperCardGS and I already own SoundConvert, I'm going to continue using the
> method that doesn't make me guess what the sampling rate is.

	The problem for me is that most of the sound files I have do not have  
the auxtype set for the sounds. Which means that SoundConvert pukes on them.
I then have to quit the program, run another program to not only GUESS what  
speed its at, but to resave it as well. (well, I could write down the auxtypes  
for each speed and just change the auxtype without saving it, but since saving  
it takes less effort, I do that) And then go back to run SoundConvert.

	Now you're asking why do I have so many sounds with no auxtypes? Many  
of the sounds running around out are from other machines and are saved as raw  
data. Thus they haven't had their auxtypes set yet. Which makes using  
SoundConvert for the reason mentioned above more of a hassle than rSounder.

	BTW : The innability of rSounder to use the p key when naming the  
rSound is a pain in the butt too.

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From: steven@alchemy.UUCP (Steven Lichter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: ProTERM Address?
Date: 10 Oct 92 03:24:38 GMT
Reply-To: steven@alchemy.UUCP (Steven Lichter)
Organization: Alchemy Software Designs

In article <1992Sep30.142448.24026@lobo.rmhs.colorado.edu> ggray@lobo.rmhs.colorado.edu (Glenn Gray) writes:
>Is there anyone out there who could give me ProTERM's whereabouts.  I'd like 
>to upgrade to 3.0 but don't have current phone or address.  Help, please.

>Thank you...  ggray@lobo.rmhs.colorado.edu

There address is:

InSync Software, Inc.
3035 E. Topaz Cir.
Phoenix, Az 85028-4423


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From: dcgreen@pro-harold.cts.com (David Green)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Who are these guys? ;>
Date: 11 Oct 92 19:40:28 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Harold Network -- An Alliance For Creative Communication

Hey, I'm not an Apple II programmer, so I've never actually met any of the
people who post the messages I read daily in comp.sys.apple2. I appreciate
that many of you people here are big names in the Apple II world, but I'd
like to point out to all of you that to those of us who are just Apple II
owners/fans, it's beginning to look like _much_ Apple II programming is 
in the hands of a mob of snotty 12-year-olds. I personally would like to
know/remember you people for tons of great software you create for Apple II
computers, not for being modemers who forgot that this _by nature_ is a 
medium that promotes insensitive correspondence. If someone is thin-shelled,
they are going to find life hell in modem communications. And if anyone has
a dream worth building, they are a fool to give it up just become someone
picks on them. Ridicule is all part of the road to creative success.

dcg :>


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: scot@jlc.mv.com (Scot Salmon)
Subject: Re: AppleTalk ImageWriters and AppleWorks
Organization: John Leslie Consulting, Milford NH
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 19:27:34 GMT

In article <1992Oct09.210318.3994@jlc.mv.com> I write:
>How do I get AppleWorks Classic (3.0) to talk to an AppleTalk ImageWriter?
>At home, I have a GS with a mid-size hard drive and AppleWorks GS.  Therefore
>it is not a problem for me to do at home.  The problem is that the same
>thing does NOT work at the local middle school.  They want me to hook
>up a GS (fortunately it's a GS!) running AppleWorks 3.0 off floppy (no HD
>anywhere for the GS - lots for the Macs, but not the GS) to an ImageWriter
>II with AppleTalk option.
>
>I say it isn't possible.  Am I right?

I've been told (in email) that I'm wrong and it is possible with the right
software. Does anyone (maybe someone at Apple) know where I might get 8-bit
AppleTalk software without getting an entire AppleTalk IIe card or whatever?
I'm hoping for FTP...thanks.
 
-- 
"Forget all you know, or *think* you know..."             | Scot Salmon
                                  - Willow                | scot@jlc.mv.com
                                                          | 101010 222 52 2A...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: t_captain@bluemoon.rn.com (Tc Wilson)
Subject: Re: GSHK v1.1 on comp.binaries
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 09:53:56 EDT

mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage) writes:


> [info on correcting problem deleted]

I'd just like to point out that I un-binscii'd it usince GSCII+ 2.3.1 on 
the GS, straight from a post capture off the system. <sob> I'm one of the 
few people who doesn't have direct access to a Unix system...


Tc Wilson/The Captain           "Programming is an art form
t.captain@bluemoon.rn.com        that fights back."
.... or try: TCQ, The Captain's Quarters (614) 488-8401, 300-38400 hst
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Accelerators (was: Re: Resurrection!!!!!)
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 11:26:33 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1992Oct12.054913.22101@cs.uow.edu.au> david@cs.uow.edu.au (David E A Wilson) writes:
>
> What do people think of the difference an 8MHz Zip Chip makes to a 1MHz //e
> or //c? Has anyone posted an article describing how these beasties work? If
> they cache memory then switching from main to aux (or worse changing banks
> in aux ram) would cause problems (as might using INTCXROM). Is knowledge
> of all these softswitches hard wired into the Zip Chip? How configurable
> is the chip to suit a particular system?

On a IIgs, an 8 MHz ZIP makes the computer run about twice as fast, on
average.  I would expect an 8 MHz ZIP in a IIe to run about three to
five times faster than a stock IIe (for all operations except disk I/O).

The ZIP chips know about all of the soft switches that control memory
bank switching, and behave appropriately.  I don't know if they can
deal with auxiliary slot memory cards (RAMWorks, etc.), but I would
hope so.

Some 'peculiar' I/O devices might confuse the ZIP.  For example, a "No
Slot Clock" under a ROM on the motherboard.  The N.S.C. uses a special
read pattern to 'activate' the clock, then it returns data using one of
the ROM data pins.  The effect is that the ROM contents change while
the clock is being read.  The ZIP cannot deal with this - its cache
will provide the wrong data to the 65C02, resulting in incorrect clock
reads, or incorrect ROM code (depending what was cached first).

The ZIP doesn't try to cache anything in the I/O space ($C000-$CFFF),
with the possible exception of the internal CX ROM space.

The ZIP cannot work with DMA, since it has no access to the bus
signals that indicate a DMA cycle is in progress.

Regarding configurability: there is a utility program that sets
various options for the ZIP (using soft-switches within the chip),
including slot speed (fast/slow operation for each slot), delays for
speaker and joystick accesses, whether to cache language card/ROM, and
what percentage speed to run the ZIP at.

The ZIP GS is very similar in design, and again knows about all of the
IIgs softswitches that control memory bank switching.  It DOES support DMA.
-- 
David Empson

Internet: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz    EMPSON_D@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Snail mail: P.O. Box 27-103, Wellington, New Zealand
From: ST7759@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU ("Alex Falkenberg")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: replacement disk drives
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:10:10 GMT
Organization: The Internet

I am looking for some disk drives to replace my old drives.  They are
the older style Apple II drives.  I have a IIe and I don't know if I can
just purchase new drives and still be able to use my old controller card
or not.  Help???
From: fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: 12+mhz is EASY!!
Date: 10 Oct 92 08:49:20 PST
Organization: BBS

I brought my 65c816 from WDC ( what else? ), got my crystals from Digi-Key.  I
am getting some paradign 15ns SRAMs from a local place ( Bay Area ).

I am running at 12.5mhz right now because everything is very stable at this
speed.  At 13.75, the whole system gets really flaky.  I'll see if the 15ns
SRAMs will help.  I will also increase my voltage later if the SRAM don't help.
 I have the HD supply, and there seems to be a fairly easy way to increase the
feed to 5.25v ( whole motherboard, thanx Chris ).  At 12.5, I get 1000
dhrystones/sec.

Everything is fine at 12.5 so far, even in proterm.  I've just left my GS on
whole last night and let it run the self-test.  All passed.

Well, more about it later...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: hal@budapest.math.macalstr.edu (Harold Byron Bouma)
Subject: Re: Another GSCII/SSCII bug
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:00:16 GMT

Andrew Nicholas writes
>Change the version number majorly to something like GSCII 2.0 or GSCII NT just
> so that people understand that it's something they -really- gotta have.

	So why didn't you do that with GSHK 1.1?? I mean, aren't SEA's the
gotta have it for '92?? :)

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| Macalester College, St. Paul, MN.    | and           HBouma@Macalstr.Bitnet |
 \  Things that make you go Hmmm:  System 6, GNO, DreamGrafix, SoundMeister  /
  \  Coming sometime this decade for the //GS : NBA! (GNO compatible too!)  /
   \  Drop by and say hi to us anytime on the #AppleIIGS channel on IRC!!  /
From: boardman@larry.sal.wisc.edu (Dan Boardman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: PRODOS and BASIC(.SYSTEM) source code
Keywords: source code Prodos basic doc documentation
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:32:13 GMT
Organization: Space Astronomy Lab, Madison, WI

Does anyone know where or if the source code listings
for ProDOS and Basic(.system) are posted.

If the source code is not available then how about
just the routine and variable address tables.
The routines w/ i/o parameters specified.

Please e-mail responses

boardman@jerry.sal.wisc.edu
-THANX
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: ftit@ob.engin.umich.edu (Sergej Roytman)
Subject: Re: Disk ][ question
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 09:03:19 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: ftit@ob.engin.umich.edu


In article <pK7-CM@engin.umich.edu>, ftit@yahara.engin.umich.edu (Sergej Roytman) writes:
|
|I found an old (ooooold) DOS 3.* disk from high school last evening and
|popped it into the drive -- sort of a smoke test, you see, before put-
|ting potentially irreplacable diskettes in it.  The drive started up
|with the usual grinding noises, only now the noises changed in frequency
|and loudness.  I assume that means it was seeking.  Then the motor stop-
|ped and the in-use LED stayed on.  I reset.  I thought that perhaps
|the side of the disk that I stuck in had something bad in the sectors in
|which the controller expected bootstrap code and caused the strange
|behavior.  I flipped the disk over and said, "PR #6".  The computer came
|back with an out-of-memory error.  The motor does not seem to be dead;
|it worked fine empty, but I didn't want to repeat the experiment again
|and try the drive loaded.

Um, sorry to reply to my own article, but I decided to open the thing 
up and have another look inside.  When I removed the top, I saw that
the varying sounds coming from inside the drive were in fact due to the
spindle gaining and losing speed.  I then opened the bottom and found
an arrangement something like this:

(top of drive)    v---------------- spring
                  %   v------------ cup pressing disk down
              \___%___/      ------ plane of disk
              \-------/ <---------- cup pressing disk up
                 | |
                 | | <------------- spindle
                 | |
              ---+ +---
              |_______| <---------- foot of spindle -- takes drive belt
            ----------------- <---- bottom of case

Evidently, the disk is compressed between the two cups which are forced
together by a spring from above and the bottom of the case from below.
My problem seems to be either that the drive belt which should spin the
spindle is weak, or that the coefficient of friction between the foot
of the spindle and the base is too great.

So, now that I can ask a more intelligent question: is a weakening of
the drive belt expected as this type of drive ages?  If so, what does
one do about it?  There should be a better solution than tossing the
old drive and posting to misc.forsale.computers.  Also, should there be
a Teflon pad or something between the foot of the spindle and the case?
Perhaps there was once such a pad in my drive, but it wore away leaving
the metal foot to rub against the metal case.

Thanks in advance for any info.

--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas)
Subject: Re: America On Line, using a IIGS
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 03:57:35 GMT

>	The AOL software takes some getting used to... I didn't
>
>	The software isn't that bad... sure it has some annoying
>quirks, and it would be nicer if it were a desktop based program, but

Yeah, "annoying quirks" like it doesn't even try to work with my
internal modem.  I'll stay with a standard terminal, thank you.
-- 
 __                                                                        __
(__)  Grover Thomas                   InterNet:  grover@emunix.emich.edu  (__
(__) "[I support efforts] to limit the terms of members of Congress, esp- (__)
(__) ecially members of the House and members of the Senate" --Dan Quayle (__)
From: cd1f+@andrew.cmu.edu (Chadley Kaye Dawson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: REQUEST: MIDI SYSEX Program
Date: 15 Oct 92 10:50:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.YerPq6m00WBnAIsTgB
Organization: Psychology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I'm looking for a simple midi program for my appleIIGS that can
read/send and save system exclusive (sysex) information on my midi
interface. I have both the passport midi interface (in slot 2) and
access to an Apple midi interface (that plugs into the serial/modem
port). I also have the device drivers in my control panel for these
two interfaces.  All of the public domain or shareware music programs
I have seen so far filter out the sysex messages. If anyone can send
me a program (C source code or object code would be great) or tell me
how to get one of the popular programs to do this I would be grateful.
If this is not possible I will try to write my own little program in
which case any midi source code would be very helpful. Thanks,

Chad Dawson
cd1f@andrew.cmu.edu
From: mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: GSHK v1.1 on comp.binaries
Date: 13 Oct 92 00:07:03 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2
Organization: Developer Technical Support, Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <5gDJsB1w165w@bluemoon.rn.com>, t_captain@bluemoon.rn.com (Tc
Wilson) wrote:
> 
> shrinkit@Apple.COM (Andrew Nicholas) writes:
> 
> > I have uploaded GSHK v1.1 to comp.binaries.apple2.  It should appear at a
> > site near you very soon.  I'll see what I can do about getting it put on
> > ftp.apple.com.
> > 
> 
> Well, I had problems with the .SEA file refusing to run (kept stopping 
> right at the launch with "error $1104" [can't find segment, I think]). 
> However, I -was- able to extract the actual nufile record out of the 
> archive (go to +$2EE5 of the .SEA file and copy off that part).
> 
> Oddly enough, when I had GSHK1.1 re-create a new .SEA file of the same 
> files, -that- .SEA file worked fine... 

This is as good a place as any to alert folks to this:

IF YOU FIND A SELF-EXTRACTING ARCHIVE IN BINSCII FORMAT, DO NOT UNBINSCII
IT BEFORE MOVING IT TO AN APPLE II.

Several people ran something like sciibin to turn the SEA back into a
binary file on their internet boxes, and then used XMODEM or YMODEM to
move the self-extracting archive to a IIgs.  It turns out that if you
do this, XMODEM or YMODEM pads the file to a 128-byte boundary.  The
System Loader then sees the garbage at the end of the file as "not a
load segment" (which, of course, it isn't) and complains that something's
wrong.

If you already have the SEA on your system and have problems like TC
explained, try resetting the EOF of the file 118119 (instead of the
probable 118272 you have) and it should work fine.  These numbers are
for the GSHK 1.1 self-extracting archive _only._


> Tc Wilson/The Captain           "Programming is an art form
> t.captain@bluemoon.rn.com        that fights back."
> .... or try: TCQ, The Captain's Quarters (614) 488-8401, 300-38400 hst

============================================================================
Matt Deatherage, Developer Support Center, Apple Computer, Inc.
Personal mail only -- please POST technical questions, questions about
Apple and its policies, where to find documents and related inquiries.
The opinions I express don't represent Apple, which makes us both happy.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Rom Upgrade?
From: cxdb14@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu (RANDY)
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:02:28 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

In article <92286.154923DBEHRENS@MIAMIU.BITNET>, <DBEHRENS@MIAMIU.BITNET> writes:
> I have another question.  I'm wondering if I upgrade like everyone that
> has sent me e-mail suggests, will I loose use of the software that I use?
> For example Appleworks 3.0, Publish It2, & The Print Shop IIGS, just
> to name a few.

Nope, all II software that runs on your ROM 00 will continue to run. The
difference in ROM versions has little or no effect on how 8 bit software works.

> Besides what's the difference between a ROM 03 and a ROM 01?
> Why couldn't I just upgrade to a ROM 03 instead of ROM 01?
> I'm a very curious person, with a ROM 00 IIGS, and to top
> that off it's a WOZ: Limited Edition.

You can upgrade to 01 with a chip swap free from any dealer you can find who
still knows what an Apple II is but you have to swap logic boards to get 03.
I did the move from 01 to 03 by buying a secondhand ROM 03.

> I didn't realize what I had untill you have clued me in on
> it's signifigance.

Yep they're neat; I swapped my 03 board into my signature edition case.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: dhua@jarthur.claremont.edu (David Hua)
Subject: For Sale:  Apple 1 Meg RAM Board
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:42:19 GMT


	For those looking for more memory, I have an Apple Computer 1 Meg
RAM board, fully populated, for sale.  I'm asking for $35, which includes
shipping charges.  Reason of sale is because of upgrade.

-- 
\ david hua                   {}   happiness is a time, a place, a memory, /
 \ dhua@jarthur.claremont.edu {}  a chemical imbalance or shift -- r.e.m. /
  \ harvey mudd college       {}      every whisper of every waking hour /
   \ class of '95             {}  i'm choosing my confessions -- r.e.m. /
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: mmunson@animal.es.com (Mark Munson)
Subject: Re: SCSI drive
Reply-To: mmunson@animal.es.com (Mark Munson)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:54:27 GMT

In article: <digdug.718583854@vincent2.iastate.edu> Doug V Tran writes:

> I'm trying to see if a GS drive can work on a MAC computer.

The 50 pin connector (looks like a Centronics parallel) that is found on SCSI
Hard Drives is the same for all SCSI-1 Devices.  In order for high-speed
communications to run over the cable, there are ground lines for each data
line.  If you aren't running SCSI too fast, you can get rid of a lot of
ground lines and only have 25 pins (the ground lines are just wired 
together).

Apple uses a DB-25 to SCSI-50 cable for both the Mac and the GS.  You
can purchase a Mac SCSI Hard Drive and plug it into your GS without
any hardware problems.  The Mac SCSI cable is the same as the GS-SCSI
cable.

You will need to use the SCSI formatting/partitioning software that
came with your GS to prepare the medium for ProDOS.  If you purchase
a Mac HD, a Mac disk is usually supplied.  In either case, you format
the drive with the selected Operating System.

Now I havn't tried hooking up a Mac formatted HD to a GS w/system 6.0
to determine if the HFS FST will automatically recognize the Mac
volume.  The same might be possible on the Mac if you are using the
ProDOS file system extension for the Mac.

I get the impression that you only care about the hardware, and will
reformat the disk once you get it hooked up to the Mac.  If this is
the case, just unplug your GS SCSI cable and plug it into the Mac
SCSI port.


BTW:  The 25-pin to SCSI cables used with Future Domain cards on the
IBM PC, aren't the same as 25-pin to SCSI cables used with the Mac or
GS machines.  Using a Mac cable on a PC Future Domain card will
destroy the Future Domain card (I didn't do it, but I've seen it
done).

[MGM]
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:24:04 EDT
From: Dr. John King Gamble Jr. <JKG2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: ShrinkIt GS 1.1 (cont.)
 <1992Oct12.164610.29439@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>

Mine unpacked fine with BINSCII, and GSHK1.1 decompressed itself fine too...