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From: neff@vcd.hp.com (Dave Neff)
Subject: Re: S-VHS EP vs. VHS SP
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 22:38:31 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Regarding using S-VHS in EP mode.  One problem that exists in EP mode
is portability of the tape to other players.  This is definately the
case with plain old VHS.  My S-VHS deck (as well as LD player, VHS vcr,
and AV Receiver) were stolen last summer.  I got a new S-VHS deck made
by a different manufacturer and a Panasonic VHS deck which has Quasi
S-VHS playback.

I was pleasently surprised to find absolutely no problems in playing
S-VHS tapes recorded in EP mode on either the S-VHS deck or the Panasonic
VHS deck using Quasis S-VHS playback.  On the other hand, some plain old
VHS tapes recorded in EP mode do not properly track on either deck.
I suspect the higher grade and bandwidth of the S-VHS tapes make
portability of the EP mode less of a problem than with VHS tape -- but
your mileage may vary of course.

Still, for anything I really want to keep I use SP mode both for
long term storage and portability issues.  However at this point I
have seen no long term storage problems with S-VHS in EP mode, but
I have only had S-VHS gear for a few years.

Dave Neff
neff@hp-vcd.vcd.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Thanks for recommendation
From: pmisra@desire.wright.edu
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:45:54 EST
Organization: Wright State University


Thanks for all your recommendations on mail order firm for
camcorder. Based on the recommendation from the net, I went
with Camera World of Oregon. The salesperson was more than
polite. There was force to buy anything more than what I
asked for. The camera was delivered on the date that the
sales person told me. All in all no problems. Their prices
are indeed low. I checked around for Canon L1 with US warranties.
There price at 1849 was the cheapest. The camera itself is
more than great. I have so far explored just the basic features
and I am impressed. There is noticeable difference in quality
compared to several other camcorder performance (at that price
it had better be :-) ). If you have the spare cash, I would
say go for it. The one feature I find truely remarkable is
the compatibility (at the price of buying an adaptor $250)
with EOS lenses. I have tried a couple and there is no loss
is quality.

By the way, I figured at $30 a year for five years, the extended
warranty is worth it. So long as I do not smash it on a rock, I
believe parts and labor are all covered. What more can I say!!
If anyone has any specific questions, drop me a line and I will
be more than happy to answer.

Pradeep Misra
pmisra@desire.wright.edu
pmisra@valhalla.cs.wright.edu

Newsgroups: rec.video
From: stud1b53@bnr.ca (Anshu Prasad)
Subject: Re: Confused about Connections...
Reply-To: stud1b53@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 14:35:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.162443.1@ptavv.llnl.gov>, oberman@ptavv.llnl.gov writes:
|> In article <1992Nov18.192201.11727@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, stud1b53@bnr.ca (Anshu Prasad) writes:

[stuff deleted]

|> > Or
|> > perhaps my only option is to split the cable to the tv and vcr
|> > and connect only the audio outs of the vcr to the amp.  The
|> > problem with this last solution is that, according to my cable
|> > company, it is illegal.
|>
 
[more stuff deleted]
[BTW, Thanks for the info]
 
|> How does the cable company define it as illegal? Sounds silly to me. Might
|> violate the terms of your agreement with the cable company, though. In any
|> case, you probably don't want to do that.

  Well, it isn't really illegal unless I do it without paying for it.
The cable company says if I want to split the cable I must PAY for
additional service (about $10/month).  They said they don't care if the
cable is going to two separate tv's (in different rooms) or a vcr and
tv in the same room.  It seems pretty unreasonable to me... is it like
this elsewhere?  Are they lying to me in hopes of getting more of my
money (they won't get it, of course)?

-- 
   __ ___  
  /\ \ \ \  Anshu Prasad                        stud1b53@bnr.ca
 /--\ \/_/  Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA
/_/  \_\    All opinions are my own, not my employer's, BNR Ltd
From: CNORRIS@UA1VM.bitnet (Charles)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: used vcrs
Date: 15 Nov 92 18:53:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Hello, looking for a few used/broken vhs vcrs that may possibly be
scrounged for parts...plz send replys to Cnorris@ua1vm.ua.edu or
to the list if that is not possible
thx, Charles Norris
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.releases
From: kachun@spot.Colorado.EDU (Ka Chun Yu)
Subject: Star Wars [was Re: LD houses]
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 07:07:26 GMT

Thanks to everyone who posted or sent me email about the various LD
mail order houses.  Now I have one additional question.  Does anyone
know if the rumor I'd heard, that Fox is planning a special boxed set
of the Star Wars trilogy on LD, is true?  Or is this just mangled from
the rumor that they were going to release a boxed LBX set on VHS (which
is true).  I was wondering if I joined Columbia House, whether I should
get the trilogy now (using a deal from before they changed the rules
concerning SW and other titles for the initial joining bonus), or wait.

-- 
*Ka Chun Yu               * Center for Astrophysics and Space Astronomy       *
*kachun@spot.colorado.edu * Astrophysical, Planetary, and Atmospheric Sciences*
*         --or--          * University of Colorado,  Boulder, CO 80309        *
*kachun@vela.colorado.edu * (303) 492-6857                                    *
From: jk@flamingo.esd.sgi.com (Joe Kennedy)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: TR200 - initial review
Date: 17 Nov 92 02:15:58 GMT
Reply-To: jk@flamingo.esd.sgi.com (Joe Kennedy)
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA, USA

In article <1e8hajINN398@seven-up.East.Sun.COM>, swk@tylos.East.Sun.COM
(Steve Klosterman - Sun BOS Hardware) writes:

|> 	in lux ratings is marketing hype.  There was a noticable 'reddish'
|> 	tint to indoor shots.

I played with a TR200 in the store, comparing the features with TR81. 
Without actually using the camera, the one feature I noticed missing
from the TR200 was the ability to choose color temperature settings.  It
seemed to only support auto white balance.  If this is the case, I would
expect less than optimum results under certain conditions, especially
colored incandescent lights or any fluorescent lights.  

							jk
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: brianp@ssec.wisc.edu (Brian Paul)
Subject: Does Macrovision cause brightness fluctuations?
Keywords: Macrovision
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Space Science and Engineering Center
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:10:52 GMT


I have a Mitsubishi U53 VCR.  I've noticed that many prerecorded tapes that I
rent and buy don't maintain a constant brightness as they play; the picture
will go dim or brighten every 20-30 seconds.  I suspect this is due to being
copy protected with Macrovision.  Am I right?  If so, is there anything I can
do to fix the problem?

I just bought the special lbx collector's edition of the Star Wars trilogy and
while watching TESB and ROTJ the fluctuating brightness really annoyed me.
Also, the Star Wars (ANH) tape has a lot of glitches, which for some reason
appear whenever there is a bright flash or loud noise such as an explosion
or laser blast.  I think I'm going to exchange my copy for a new one.

Thanks,
-Brian

Newsgroups: rec.video
From: pete@frosty.Rational.COM (Pete Coe)
Subject: Re: S-VHS Deck Questions and Recommendations?
Organization: Rational
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:38:19 GMT

mark@nwra.com (Mark Baldwin) writes:

>chan@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM writes:
>>A previous poster said you can eject a tape with the R5's remote. 
>>I don't think this is true.

>I was the previous poster. From the AUTO MENU you select 
>REW-EJECT-POWER OFF. The tape ejects after it rewinds. There is no 
>"eject" button on the remote.

With a bit of technology you can get the remote to eject the tape.  A
friend has an HP-48 calculator, and a program that know the syntax 
of Sony remote codes.  With a bit of playing around we managed to get
it to eject a tape.  We then used the learning portion of the R5's 
remote, and I can now eject a tape from the R5's remote.  

I have only had my machine for a couple of weeks, and have just 
discovered that the index marking does not seem to be working. 
According to the manual, the marks should be automatically added
when a program is recorded, or when the 'Index Mark' button is
pressed.  The 'index' light on the vcr flashes when this is done,
but nothing appears on the TV.  On playback neither index search or 
scan pick up anything.  Am I doing something wrong, or is my vcr 
wanting to go back to the shop?

>    )_ _               -------------------------------------------    
>   /  ) ) _        /       Mark Baldwin - mark@sparky.nwra.com
>  /  / / / / /\_  /_/  Northwest Research Associates, Bellevue, WA
> /  / /_(_/_/  (_/ \__ -------------------------------------------  

--

-- Pete Coe
-- Rational
-- Object-Oriented Products
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: htm@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Hal McMillan)
Subject: Re: My Pioneer CLD-3090 just died
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:25:54 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta

I bought my 3090 about one year ago. First, I had to send it to Pioneer
to get the ROM upgrade. Then it developed the "spontaneous pause" feature. 
I sent it back to them in the winter and they could not fix it so they sent
me a new 3090. By September, we had another problem: audio "dropouts" on
CD's. I called the service center again, and after speaking with her
supervisor, the telephone rep told me to send my 3090 in and they would
replace it with a 701. Which they did. I have now had the 701 for over a month
and it is working fine.

You are not alone in the 3090 twilight zone.

Hal
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: Jay_Tobias@taligent.com (Jay Tobias)
Subject: Re: Information on Hi8 and SVHS tape quality/dropouts
Organization: Taligent
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 17:02:08 GMT

In article <1em19eINNbol@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, aq456@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
(Terry Quinn) writes:
> 
> 
> About a week ago I spoke to one of the experts at Sony's Recording 
> Media office on video tape.  I'll post some information now, even 
> though I am expecting some more literature to come from them 
> later.
>  

I had a similar conversation a while back.  In my case, the question came up
concerning the use of metal particle (MP) and metal evaporative (ME) tapes.  The
Sony representative I talked to at their Recording Media office stated that ME
was better for the initial recording but would hold up less well than MP during
editing sessions involving shuttling back and forth and repeated playback of
certain sections.  The reason he gave was that ME would give a better signal but
was just not as durable as MP. 

Does this agree with your knowledge and experience?  I wonder how much better ME
is, because it sure costs more than MP.  Why not just go with MP from the start?
From: ma168faf@imath8.ucsd.edu (Matthew Guarnotta)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: ***TELEVISION AS WINDOW******
Date: 19 Nov 92 04:25:10 GMT
Organization: Univsersity of California, San Diego
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Does Macrovision cause brightness fluctuations?
Date: 22 Nov 92 17:32:15 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Distribution: na
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <20NOV199215053097@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> kimnach@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (GREG KIMNACH) writes:
<In article <1992Nov20.155027.26930@sei.cmu.edu>, kh@sei.cmu.edu (Kurt Haverstock) writes...
<>In article Re: Does Macrovision cause brightness fluctuations? of 21 Nov 92 05:09:21 GMT brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
<> 
<> 
<> 
<>>Wrong.  The AGC screwup is during copying from one VCR to another.  If you
<>>are playing the tape directly to the TV (not going through another VCR), then
<>>it is the TV that is having problems with the Macrovision.
<>>
<>>There are many TVs that have problems with Macrovision.  The Macrovision
<>>company claims not.  My letter to a trade publication should proabably appear
<>>next month (since it wasn't in the recent issue).  Macrovision is supposidly
<>>going to respond to my complaints about the signal.  I will post them when
<>>I get it.
<> 
<> 
<>My gaff. You're absolutely right. Gain circuitry processes incoming video,
<>not output. 
<> 
<>My television is also less-than-fond of the stuff and watching Macro'd
<>movies is extremely annoying.  Good luck in the wars.
<
<I hope that he does have success.  However, we should all write our 
<complaints--en masse, perhaps--to increase the odds of something being done 
<to correct this so-called "non-existant" problem which may find it's way 
<onto LDs.  It's not just Vidiot's crusade, afterall!

Laserdiscs cannot have Macrovision applied to it, since it (Macrovision) would
have to be placed where all of the LD's control signals are.

There was talk of having new LD players add the Macrovision signal, but I
haven't heard much about that since.

So, for the foreseeable future, laserdiscs are safe.
-- 
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      rutgers/            INTERNET:vidiot!brown%astroatc.UUCP@spool.cs.wisc.edu
                                   brown@wi.extrel.com
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Subject: Re: Video on standard CD's?
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:34:10 GMT
Reply-To: rjn@FC.HP.COM
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

William R. Cruce (wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu) wrote:

> I have seen a few CD-ROM drives advertising that they support PhotoCD,
> e.g. NEC's new double speed one (model not handy).  I thought the main
> issue was being able to read the new type directory required for the
> multiple sessions.  Is there some advertising hype involved here?

Absolutely.  Do not buy a CD-ROM drive that claims to be "PhotoCD"
compatible unless they state clearly, and in print, that they support
multi-session (OrangeBook).  I have have a report that Apple's newest CD-ROM
drive is fully PhotoCD-compatible, but no others are.

As it happens, I need a CD drive for my PC, and I am waiting.

Regards,                                              Hewlett-Packard
Bob Niland      Internet: rjn@FC.HP.COM               3404 East Harmony Road
                CompuServe:  71044,2124               Ft Collins CO 80525-9599

This article represents only the opinion[s] of its author, and is not an
official or unofficial position of, or statement by, the Hewlett-Packard
Company.  The text is provided for informational purposes only.  It is
supplied without warranty of any kind.
From: baldwin@frodo.colorado.edu (Dan "Viper" Baldwin)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: FOX PREPROGRAMMED REMOTE!
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:40:55 GMT
Organization: Colorado Center for Astrodynamics Research

In article <1992Nov21.194551.5755@desire.wright.edu>, kfriedman@desire.wright.edu writes:
|> I used to see adds for a Fox brand pre-programmed universal remote with a flat
|> panel, back-lit LCD display.  Does anyone have one they could comment on? and
|> WHERE CAN I BUY ONE MAIL ORDER?  I haven't seen tham advertised recently.
|> 
|> 	Jay

	Since this is the third time this question has been asked, I will
publically answer it. IMHO , the Fox-800 is a piece of &%#@, This is why
(by the way, I own one) 

	1) The functions needed to run my Pioneer ld player, my Yamaha
A/V reciever and my NEC VCR were not in the units data bank. Therefore
I had to use the learning functions--which leads to ....
	2) The "memory" only holds 32 functions !!!! This is in no way
enough to run even the most basic functions for 4 units.
	3) The LCD screen is not backlit enough to read the function
buttons in the dark--The letters are very small.
	4) The instruction manual is misprinted such that although the
pages are numbered sequentially, the text is not and you have to hunt
through the whole thing to find the proper "next page".
	5) It was manufactured in China--need I say more ?

Dan Baldwin baldwin@frodo.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: Jay_Tobias@taligent.com (Jay Tobias)
Subject: Re: various TR101 observations and questions 
Organization: Taligent
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:06:37 GMT

In article <BxuC10.1qJ@ra.nrl.navy.mil>, mullen@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Preston
Mullen) writes:
> 
> Note, the following all actually apply to a Nikon VN750, but
> since it's the same as the Sony TR101, I will use TR101 below.
> 
> 1.  The Data Code feature is very convenient.  The camera always
>     Questions: How common is this feature on camcorders and Hi8 decks,
>     including "professional" models like EVW-300 and EVO-9850?  How is
>     it implemented, i.e., where on the tape is the data code written?
>

I saw a chart that depicted the data code in a separate, longtitudinal track.
 
> 5.  Dropouts.  With a relatively small sample of TDK ME-120 tape,
>     tape, I've seen more dropouts than I'd expected (mostly the part-of-
>     one-scan-line-flashing-in-one-field variety). 

I did have a TR101 for a short time that I returned due to exactly the problems
you described.  My various musings have turned up the following possibilities:
+ The playback facility of the TR101 does not measure up to Hi8 VCR standards. 
That is, when played back on a good Hi8 deck, most problems did not recur.
+ The metal evaporative tape is prone to dropouts.  Rumor has it that this
formulation is defective in Sony's case and you should switch to Fuji's double
coated, metal particle tape.
+ The TR101 itself was defective.  Since I couldn't tell for sure, I wasn't
going to pay $1500 or so to find out.
+ All Hi8 camers exhibit this feature.  It may be inherent in the technology as
you question.  If this is the case, then $1500 is a big ripoff.

2, 3, 4, & 6:
Great questions - what are the answers?
Newsgroups: rec.video,ca.general
From: leem@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Lee Mellinger)
Subject: Re: Why buy anywhere else but FedCo?  (Medium/High-end video, at least)
Keywords: FedCo
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory (NASA)
Distribution: ca
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:38:08 GMT

In article <1e7fdnINNep5@news.aero.org> helfman@aero.org (Robert S. Helfman) writes:
:In article <1992Nov14.225445.15091@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> earle@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Greg Earle - Gainfully Unemployed) writes:
:
:It's hardly a scam. Fedco was founded by 800 postal employees in 1954.
:I joined in 1957. They were so small, they just had a storefront on
:Slauson in L.A. where they had a catalog service. You picked out what you
:wanted and came back to get it when it arrived. 
:

I don't know exactly when the the Van Nuys store opened, but I have
going to it since 1957. 

Lee

"Mit Pulver und Blei, die Gedanken sind frei."

|Lee F. Mellinger                 Caltech/Jet Propulsion Laboratory - NASA
|4800 Oak Grove Drive, Pasadena, CA 91109 818/354-1163  FTS 792-1163     
|leem@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: Jay_Tobias@taligent.com (Jay Tobias)
Subject: Re: TR200 == TR81?
Organization: Taligent
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:42:30 GMT

In article <1e1if7INNmvs@seven-up.East.Sun.COM>, swk@tylos.East.Sun.COM (Steve
Klosterman - Sun BOS Hardware) writes:
> [...]
> 	TR200!  The new focusing feature totally blew me away.  The
> docking unit was great.  The lithium ion battery is nifty.  Hi8, AFM,
> etc.   These features clearly blew away the stabilization of the TR101
> from the standpoint of what I'm looking for.
> 

Sounds good, but the stabilizer is the most totally cool feature to come along
short of the camcorder itself.  I heard of a guy who was filming from a car
while travelling on a dirt road with major bumps.  As the car dives into a huge
pothole, you can see the dashboard going into g-shock endurance mode while the
picture stays rock steady.  Or another guy who was filming the Blue Angels while
holding his camera by hand.  Or my uncle who saw the results of a TR101 filming
surfing from a cliff and wishing he had the Sony instead of his Canon UCS1 (he
swore the camera was on a tripod).

How do others feel about stabilization?  I've heard people say you can get used
to the "shakes" or learn how to overcome them, but shakey footage is just not
that viewable, right?
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: aefron@cornerstone.com (Andrew Efron)
Subject: Sony SLV-595 vs. 696
Reply-To: aefron@cornerstone.com (Andrew Efron)
Organization: Cornerstone Research, Cambridge, Mass.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:46:15 GMT

My understanding is that the difference between these two comes down to the 
flying erase head on the 696.  Is this worth the extra fifty bucks?  I have a 
flying erase head on my JVC but want to switch to Sony.  It's great for 
seamless editing but I haven't had one without it so I can't make a 
comparison.

Thanks for any help.

Andy


---
"I have seen the truth and it makes no sense."
From: T.G.Nattress@newcastle.ac.uk (Graeme Nattress)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Help with VHS recording problem ???
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:42:48 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

seeree@neptune.ral.rpi.edu (Sanjeev Seereeram) writes:



>  Fellow netters,

>  I would like advice on how to alleviate a problem I have
>  with VHS recording on my Sony 575 vcr (4-head, hi-fi,
>  NOT flying erase). Whenever I pause the recording, say
>  to get up to turn a disc over, then restart, a couple
>  of translucent colored bars appear and float around the
>  screen for a second or two before disappearing (in the
>  recorded version, that is). Is there a solution to this
>  problem, or is there something defective with the vcr?
>  It performs flawlessly otherwise, and the quality of the
>  recording is quite good, given good quality tape in SP.

>  Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Please reply
>  to
>	seeree@ral.rpi.edu

>  Thanks much

>  Sanjeev

   Bad news.... The Best solution is to get a vcr with Flying erase heads,
or...

    If there is some black on screen before the LD starts or whatever, release
pause a couple of secs (about 3) before the programme starts, thus geting the
colour breakup over blank screen and not over the programme.

Graeme,


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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: andy@hpsmo100.rose.hp.com (Andy Young)
Subject: OPINION: TR81 vs UCS1
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:38:57 GMT
Organization: Nosferatu U.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

I am going to be buying my first camcorder real soon now, and have narrowed
the field down to either the Sony TR81 or the Canon UCS1. I have heard that
the Sony has a few focusing problems, but don't know a whole heck of a lot
about the Canon. Any opinions or suggestions would be much appreciated.

--
Andy.

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TSN: AndyY, Box 24491           8050 Foothills Blvd, Roseville, CA 95678
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