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From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Ella (was Re: Dietrich, Madonna, etc.)
Date: 12 Oct 1992 15:13:55 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <1992Oct12.180259.14453@cabezon.uucp> 
kenr@cabezon.uucp (Ken Richards) writes:

> If you want to hear the true Ella, you have to throw away those
> songbook albums and get her live stuff: "Ella in Berlin", 
> "Ella Returns to Berlin", and especially "Ella in Rome"

Yes, you're right.  Other live albums that I certainly wouldn't
want to live without are "Ella in Hollywood" (even if she doesn't
seem to realize that "Paganini" and "meanie" really are supposed
to rhyme), "Ella at the Opera House", "Ella and Duke at the
Cote d'Azur", and one whose name I don't recall exactly but which
is something like "Ella at Cap d'Antibes".  

But then there are her wonderful studio recordings, the best
of which is "Ella on Broadway" which boasts the single most 
exciting recording I've ever heard of "Steam Heat".

> All the Ella song books I've heard are dull and lacking, 
> well, Ella-ness. She seems to be constrained by the muzak 
> style orchestras that usually accompany her on these albums.
>
> So, has anyone been to a Ella concert recently?

Not recently, no.  About 8 or 9 years ago, though.  A friend
of mine saw her perform at a private party about 5 years
ago and said she was incredible.

Arne
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From: bcapps@agora.rain.com (Brent Capps)
Subject: Scott Lively convicted, and this week's hate crimes
Keywords: OCA, Measure 9, hate crimes
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:43:19 GMT

It's been a busy couple of days for the dead horse.  Let's start
with the good news...

1. SCOTT LIVELY CONVICTED OF ASSAULT, FINED $31,000
   A Multnomah County (Portland) jury has found Scott Lively and the
   OCA liable for damages in forcably ejecting Catherine Stauffer 
   from an Oct 8, 1991 meeting at the Foresquare Church where the
   OCA was previewing its gay bashing video for "members and friends".
   Catherine is a photographer for Just Out, one of the Portland gay
   papers, and had received an invitation to attend the meeting.
   She has been unable to work since the incident.  The verdict included
   $10,000 in punitive damages against the OCA, $500 against Scott Lively,
   and $20,000 for pain and sufffering.  The jurors rejected an OCA
   counterclaim against Catherine for trespassing.

2. MCC AND ST. MATTHEW'S RCC VANDALIZED
   The PDX MCC was broken into and vandalized sometime Sunday and a list
   of 200-300 members stolen.  St. Matthew's Roman Catholic Church in
   Hillsboro was vandalized Monday night and anti-gay slogans were
   spraypainted on the rectory, including "Catholics love gays"[!],
   "Vote Yes on 9", and "Kill faggots".  The Portland chapter of the
   Quakers also reports telephoned death threats for their opposition
   to Measure 9.  These are just the latest incidents in a continuing
   pattern of vandalism, intimidation, and physical violence directed
   at the Oregon gay community during the Measure 9 campaign.

3. HARASSING PHONE CALLS AIMED AT "ANNE FRANK IN THE WORLD" EXHIBIT
   The First United Methodist Church of PDX has received four harassing
   phone calls about the Anne Frank exhibit that opens this Friday.
   "Basically, they say Anne Frank is a hoax," said Wendy Liebreich,
   who heads the "Anne Frank in the World" committee that is presenting
   the exhibit.  The American Jewish Committee has also received such
   calls.  No specific threats were made, and 24-hour security arrangements
   have been made.

   BTW, the PGMC is scheduled to sing at this exhibit on Oct. 24th
   and has frequently performed and rehearsed at this church.

4. Another poll on Measure 9 shows the measure losing by 57% to 28% with
   15% undecided.  Before you celebrate, these numbers are similar to
   what the polls showed in 1988 30 days before the OCA went on to win
   on a ballot measure repealing Gov. Goldschmitt's executive order banning
   anti-gay discrimination in state government.

Dear God when is this going to end?

-- 
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bcapps@agora.rain.com | Know what to kiss, and when.
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From: shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer)
Subject: Re: Culture (was Re: Ah, Fashion.)
Organization: NASA Dryden, Edwards, Cal.
	<1992Oct13.154646.15023@athena.mit.edu>
	<1992Oct13.175834.24095@macc.wisc.edu>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:47:09 GMT

On Tue, 13 Oct 92 17:58:34 GMT, anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) said:


Jess> In article <1992Oct13.154646.15023@athena.mit.edu>
Jess> max@athena.mit.edu (Max Meredith Vasilatos) writes:

>>Seems about right, n'est-ce pas?

>Only *about* right, no?

Jess> Yes :-), really really right.  I think each is exactly
Jess> "isn't that so?".  The only difference is context.
Jess> "N'est-ce pas?" is literary language, "Right?" is informal
Jess> and conversational.

Jess> But somebody told me I was a pendant, just the other day.

Just hanging around again?

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                       "A kill is a kill."  Anonymous
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From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: The Lonster (was: Re: Oregon on Today Show this morning)
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 18:17:21 GMT


In article <1992Oct15.163652.27763@Princeton.EDU>
elliott@courant.princeton.edu (Frank W.  Elliott) writes:

>  I was under the impression that it could admit his head.

Just the teensiest, tiniest tip of the point, ,aybe.

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From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Re: Out in a snap (was Re: Ah, Fashion.)
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 04:11:36 GMT

anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:


>In article <1992Oct13.102523.5600@panix.com> mara@panix.com
>(Mara Chibnik) writes:

>>anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) caught the typo:

>>If they "sense" you the sources, maybe you could put them up 
>>for anon esp and save wear and tear on the net.

>Ha ha ha.  I completely missed that.  Anon esp, that's pretty
>good; just think mget stuff and voila, you have it.  Hm ..
>yoo hoo, mget thaaang ... gotta love them bytes.

Hey!!! This doesn't mean anything, does it?

John, wondering if he should be offended or flattered or what and
wondering how he makes the big AG stop being a post and start
anagramming stuff

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			Dark. Handsome. 6 feet tall.
		  31 flavors? I believe he's got 'em all!
From: markm@ogicse.ogi.edu (Mark Morrissey)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: The Rainbow Flag
Date: 7 Oct 92 22:07:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.43802
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR

In article <1992Oct7.195006.1729@oracle.us.oracle.com> schiles@us.oracle.com writes:
> [a story about flying the rainbow flag in SF over a library]

"Being acknowledge" is apparantly one of those 'special rights' which
some folks claim we want so bad.

Personally, the main special right I want is the one which says that I
won't get death threats.  Or maybe the one which says that after
passing co-workers in the hallway, a casual "He's one of *them*, wait
until after the election" won't come drifting my way.

Hate has a way of ruining one's day.

--mark
--
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markm@cse.ogi.edu        One Hatred to bring them all and in the darkness bind
                         them.  In the land of Bigotry where the Shadows lie.
From: mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: M A D O N N A
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:28:13 GMT
Followup-To: soc.motss
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Oct13.140923.29275@spdcc.com>, rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob
Donahue) wrote:
> 
> mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:
> >Both Bush and Clinton are *pretending* to be Madonna - or like her. 
> 
> 	BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
> 
> 	OK, OK I admit I nearly fell off my chair after reading this.

God, you are pathetic.  First, there was the screaching cries of 
outrage over my contention that "Family Values" was a ploy.  Heard
a lot about "Family Values" lately?  There was even that ridiculous
'apology' to Murphy Brown.  

A ploy.

Now, I'm pointing out that Bush and Clinton are trying to be media
celebrities.  Whhsssshs!  Right over your head (the one you *can*
get up in the morning).  Perhaps I can remind you of a few campaign
events:  Clinton on Arsenio Hall.  Clinton on MTV.

MTV, Donahue.  That prestigious bastion of hard-core journalism.

Yes, Clinton, aging, plump, nasal... but hip!  Vote for me! I was on
MTV!  Me!

I wouldn't have thought it likely, Donna, but you really  *are* an 
idiot.


Melmothra, ACC
From: jns@elea.umd.edu (J. N. Shaumeyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Birthday Greetings
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:01:23 GMT
Organization: Militant Homosexual Lobby, Gay Lifestyles, Inc.


Rog Phillips (roger@quantime.co.uk), 
always the worrier, wrote:
 
> Just so's I've got this clear, the "year one graduates"
> (making one "class of XXXX") is
> the year in which one's last year in "high school" ended, right?

Fear not, twin o' mine; even though 
you're the older, we are both class 
of Greg-'n'-Arne-'n'-Melinda.

[And if you forget one more time that 
 our birthday is the last day of April, 
 you're in deep shit.]

[And just in case anyone wondered, it's 
 convenient that we're both named Neal, 
 but just to avoid confusion, Mom spelled 
 his 'Neil'.]

--jns
From: jcfh@st-andrews.ac.uk (James Charles Fraser Harvey)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: n
Date: 13 Oct 92 23:55:59 GMT
Organization: St. Andrews University, Scotland.

For my 2 cents worth (or whatever), Ian M Banks is an interesting
author from the gay perspective.  Though he doesn't have gay characters as such
all his humans are able to change sex at will, so to great extent one is
defined by one's preferences alone, not one's own sex.  'Player of Games' is
probably best in this respect.  This isn't the main point of his books,
either, so don't expect full frontal nudity, so to speak, but his heart's in
the right place.


James.
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From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: Why you people alienate so many...
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 21:10:53 GMT


In article <1992Oct16.144012.6618@lclark.edu>
snodgras@lclark.edu (Bil Snodgrass) writes:

>No, if you don't think like Steve or Melinda you have offended them and
>they will say nice things about you. 

See?  See?  Gawd punished you for Bad Thinking, and rightly
so!

>Think whatever pleases Steve or Melinda (and others), will please me..
>Repeat this over and over again, "I am just an extention of Steve and 
>Melinda and I mustn't depart from their personal beliefs."  Say it three
>times then click your heals........>

For any newbies lurking in the wings: this passes the Whine
Test.  He's completely right, of course.  Before I even tap
*one* of my pinkies on the keys, I do an extensive
Correctness According to Steve and Melinda Search (it's on
CD-ROM and the drive is slow, and lemme tell ya, it *really*
slows down my posting daemon) so that I run zero risk of
irking Them.  Because I get daily online updates of the
Cabalista Party Line index, I am sure *never* to publish an
Incorrect Thought or Whine Substitute.  It's very expensive,
but it has pulled my proverbial fat from the proverbial fire
countless times.

It reads to me like the Snodgrass fantasy factory clicked its
heels one too many times.

>You should thank them to put you in their Kill file!  I
>begged Jesse!
        ^^^^^
In the immortal words of Peter (you know, that
rock-upon-church-founding apostle): I do not know the man.
Unless of course you meant Messrs.  Helms or Jackson (says
he, neatly passing the task on getting both of *those* names
into the same sentence without flunking the Shore/Dyer
Conformity Test.

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From: glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Camille Paglia on fashion (was Re: Ah, Fashion.)
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:12:58 GMT
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Originator: glp@merlin


In article <mattm-081092140500@mcmelmon.apple.com>, mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct7.190418.25219@fig.citib.com>, glp@fig.citib.com (Greg
|> Parkinson) wrote:
|> > 
|> > 
|> > In article <1992Oct7.012335.28329@wam.umd.edu>, lovegod@wam.umd.edu (Donald Andrew Agarrat) writes:
|> > |> } IN is caring, caring for the environment, for society and
|> > |> } for the less fortunate.  We *respect* people of colour,
|> > |> } unless they're, er, *too* black, and the differently-abled,
|> > |> 
|> > |> Excuse me, but would you mind filling me in on what it is to be *too* black?
|> > 
|> > You know, the noisy ones, the ones who don't realize how
|> > good they really have it in this country and appreciate
|> > the things we've given them.  Also, the really dark ones
|> > make us nervous because they look dangerous.
|> 
|> By 'we' you mean 'us white folk?'  Assuming this is the same Donald,
|> I believe his .sig would give most people a clue that he is, in
|> fact, not one of 'us.'  You know... <<he's black>>.

Amazing.  You are *really* stupid.

-- 
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From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Tired and Impatient (was Re: Dietrich, Madonna, etc.)
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:05:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: macc.1992Oct14.180538.21522
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison


In article <ldoff6INNmo0@spim.mti.sgi.com>
dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber) writes:

>In article <1992Oct14.001737.10135@macc.wisc.edu>,
anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:

>|> You're right, some intellectuals are tired.  But to get back
>|> on terra firma here too, Matthew, one of the tasks that
>|> intellectuals get tired from is trying to inject reason into
>|> discussions that tend to drift off into gratuitous
>|> lip-flapping by people who have limited command of the
>|> historical, social, and intellectual contexts of the
>|> material at hand.  Contempt of the "name dropping" remark
>|> type is at base anti-intellectual, and I think less than a
>|> credit to you.
 
>|> If that makes me a tired intellectual, I'm proud of it.

>Nope, it does not make you a tired intellectual, it makes you a pompous
>intellectual....

You're in no danger, don't worry.

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From: roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: CABAL stuff
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:52:07 GMT
Reply-To: roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips)
Organization: Quantime Ltd, London (software for market research)

In article <1aso5fINNgt1@mizar.usc.edu>,
adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) quotes the Crawslaw recipe:
>    ... The basic ingredients are shaved cabbage, ...

Tsk.  There you go, bear-baiting again ...

-- 
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"*scaphocephalus* n. a boat-shaped head"
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From: rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Date: 7 Oct 92 02:46:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Oct7.024630.1752
Organization: insert anything here

steven@cray.com (Steven Levine) writes:
> rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue) writes:

>>...But somehow I've managed to get by 
>>in the last 29.985 years...

>This is a hint, right?  Were we supposed to plan a surprise
>party or something?  Is this a request for "happy
>birthday" messages to be broadcast on soc.motss on --
>is it October 11?

	No the 10th actually.  I must have rounded down instead of up.
And no it wasn't a hint.  Had it been 29.329 would you have made this
response?  Face it every year, everyone is within 1% of their birthday.
It would be silly to "hide" it.

	It being close, itu;s easier to do the math to 2-4 decimal
places in my head, that part I will admit... :-)

	In any case, I still don't understand why you chose to 
react the way you did...

BBC
From: mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike Reaser)
Subject: Re: More trivialization of red ribbons
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:27:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: a stone mountain of Kudzu

I heard on Joan Rivers' show this morning that the white ribbon are
symbolic of support for breast cancer research.  October is supposed
to be Breast Cancer Awareness Month.

Joan also showed a copy of the Christmas catalog from Saks.  They have
a jewelled and sequined "AIDS ribbon" they're selling for $100.  Joan
read them down the river -- she said if you wanted one, buy a cheap
"ribbon ribbon" and send the $100 to "AIDS awareness".


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From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Date: Thu,  8 Oct 92 20:45:43 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Oct7.224932.840@calmasd.prime.com> <1992Oct8.145856.29840@osf.org>

Robert Coren writes:
>> Uh, it's avocado *green* or *harvest* gold.  In the 70's you obviously
>> spent more time at the disco than in the kitchen.  Avocado gold sounds
>> like some kind of tequila based chip dip.
>
>To me, "avocado gold" suggests "Acapulco Gold", which was a "brand
>name" for a type of supposedly high-quality cannabis back in the late
>'60s to early '70s (maybe it still is?).

It made me think of an avocado and marijuana guacamole.  ;-)

Of course, YOUR comment just reminded me of the Dr. Hook & The
Medicine Show song _Acapulco Goldie_....  ;-)
 
() Vanilla Ice is a few cubes short of a full tray.
()      -- Evan Leibovitch (evan@telly.on.ca)
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From: johnf@uhheph.phys.hawaii.edu (John Flanagan)
Subject: Re: Culture (was Re: Ah, Fashion.)
Organization: University of Hawaii, Dept. of Physics & Astronomy
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:18:35 GMT

In article <16286@mindlink.bc.ca> mscott@mindlink.bc.ca (Michael Scott) writes:
>>
>> In article <1992Oct13.044834.19221@macc.wisc.edu>
>> macc.eisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>>
>> >Wrote an opera, n'est-ce pas?
>>
>> >No exact equivalent in English of "n'est-ce pas", I think.
>>
>> Wrote an opera, right?
>>
>> Seems about right, n'est-ce pas?
>>
>
>Seems about right, eh wot?

Seems about right, innit?

--John


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From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Dietrich, Madonna, etc.
Date: 12 Oct 1992 14:26:04 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

In article <mattm-121092101957@mcmelmon.apple.com> 
mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:

> ... The 'cowboy' is an icon, but specific cowboys?  Only Reagan... 

Reagan a *cowboy*?  Reagan has only ever hoisted his fat
ass into a saddle when a camera's been rolling.  You've
got to be joking. 

Arne
From: roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:23:19 GMT
Reply-To: roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips)
Organization: Quantime Ltd, London (software for market research)

In article <ld8lkhINNk5k@spim.mti.sgi.com>,
dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber) writes:
> In article <1992Oct7.212202.9629@spdcc.com>,
> rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue) writes:
> |> 	Who's MAdonna?
> 
> A woman who is seen in knots on trees.

Oh, you've seen her new book, then?

-- 
Roger Phillips                            roger@quantime.co.uk
"There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about,
and that is not being talked about." -- Oscar Wilde
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From: elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher)
Subject: Re: "Advocate" editor interviewed on CNN
Reply-To: elle@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 22:02:11 GMT

In article <Bvq3Gy.9wF@scd.hp.com> mdrayton@sr.hp.com (Mike Drayton) writes:
>Aww, Tucker Quayle _again_?  Or do you mean "*really* big" in a
>different sense?

Tucker's not only small game, he's too young to be influential even if he
were speaking out against us, which he isn't.

On the other hand, a number of reporters for GLBO papers have been
tracking the _DAN_ Quayle rumor for four years now, but can't get anyone
willing to talk on the record.

--                    __
Ellen Keyne Seebacher \/             elle@midway.uchicago.edu
  "Anyone who knows Dan knows he'd rather golf than have sex."  
                      --Marilyn Quayle
From: chloupek@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Am I Going Crazy?
Date: 11 Oct 92 16:57:00 GMT

In article <CMM.0.90.4.718602516.mconte@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, Marc V Conte <mconte@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes:
> 	Les Wexner, owner of The Limited and outed by Larry Kramer at Vito
> Russo's funeral, last month announced his engagement to a female lawyer from
> New York.  The TV news anchors announced this with a smirk but never
> questioned it.
> 
Maybe Les just got tired of going to events with his mother?

Frank
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