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From: snopes%club33@stlth.enet.dec.com (snopes)
Subject: Rare Disney silents found
Organization: Will work for food, but not for DEC.
Date:  7 OCT 92 07:35:44    


                        Rare Disney silents found


   AMSTERDAM -- The Dutch Film Museum has unearthed what it believes are the 
only surviving copies of six early Walt Disney films, silents made between 1923 
and 1927, spokesman Rene Wolf said Tuesday.
   The films, each lasting five to ten minutes, are among 15 short Disney films 
discovered recently in the museum's Amsterdam archives where they apparently 
lay unnoticed for decades, Wolf said.
   "As far as we've been able to ascertain, no one, not even the Disney 
archives in Los Angeles, has these six titles, he added.
   Walt Disney Co. spokesman Frank Lomento said Tuesday the Burbank-based 
company was unaware of the find and had no comment.
   Wolf said Disney worked personally on the films as part of an "Alice in 
Cartoonland" series intended as a sequel to his earlier "Alice in Wonderland," 
based on the book by Lewis Carroll.
   Four more of the 15 titles are valuable finds as they appear to be more 
complete copies than any held elsewhere, Wolf said.
   The 35mm black-and-white films, with titles like "Alice in the Big League," 
"Alice the Firefighter" and "Alice's Day at Sea," are captioned in Dutch.
   They are an early example of combined live action and animation, featuring a 
young actress playing Alice superimposed on a cartoon background.
   The films will be shown at next month's Pordenone silent film festival in 
Italy, the spokesman reported.

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From: bd670@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Russell I. Dyreng)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Please Settle This!
Date: 16 Oct 1992 15:15:52 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Sleeping Beauty's Castle is in Disneyland.

Cinderella's Castle is in Walt Disney World.

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you paid for it.
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From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Disneyland Update
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 11 Oct 92 00:32:51 PDT

No substantive changes from the last report.  The things that were closed
are still closed, and nothing new has joined the list.  The painting of
the Mickey's Toontown exteriors is continuing in earnest, and there is
some evidence that they have started on the landscaping.  The pit that
had been dug in front of Small World has been roofed over with concrete,
forming a nice basement.  The steel superstructure for a single story
octagonal building about fifty feet across with a peaked roof has been
raised, partially over the former hole in the ground.  Presumably this
will be the toy shop that Denise mentioned.  The new building for the
train station seems to be structurally complete, and work has now moved
to roofing and the beginnings of painting.

For those who care, weekend attendance is still *very* high.  They
almost filled the parking lot today, and the park seemed as crowded
as it does during most of the summer.  Apparantly a lot of locals
either put off seeing Fantasmic! until the summer crowds were gone, or
they want to see it again.  The continued heatwaves in the Southern
California area are probably also a factor.  Unfortunately, the
Fantasmic! schedule has been reduced from three shows to two, and the
times have been move up an hour to 8:30pm and 10:00pm.  This means that
Fantasmic! is still *very* crowded, especially since the Main Street
Electrical Parade isn't running anymore to help draw some of the crowd.

TTFN!

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From: cindy@berkp.uadv.uci.edu (Cindy Windham)
Subject: Re: Children & 3-D Movies
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Organization: University Advancement, University of Calif., Irvine
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:45:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.185113.3383@cs.ucla.edu> reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:

>In article <2237@usna.NAVY.MIL> wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.MIL (Wm. Douglas Withers -- math  FACULTY <wdw@sma.usna.navy.mil>) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct7.153908.15195@news.ysu.edu> ad198@yfn.ysu.edu (Carl Landis) writes:
>>
>>The only trauma was caused by Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.  After riding it once,
>>the three-year-old refused (as only a three-year-old can refuse) to enter
>>any of the rides having similar-looking entrances (Snow White, Peter Pan).

>Very interesting.  Another poster has also mentioned Mr. Toad's Wild Ride
>as one that frightened her child, and I can attest, second hand, that it
>has been doing so for many years.  My elder brother, when just a wee tot,
>bit my father rather than permit himself to be taken on this attraction.
>That must have been some thirty years ago.  I wonder what it is about
>Mr. Toad's Wild Ride that children find so uniquely disturbing?

>--
>               Peter Reiher
>               reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu

I was/am afraid of these rides, too.  Ever since being taken on rides like
Snow White, Alice in Wonderland, etc. as a child, I've had recurring
nightmares which involve these rides.  I love Disneyland, but there is 
just something about these particular rides that I find really 
frightening.  Actually, I'm glad to hear that I'm not alone.

My 3 1/2 year old son is afraid of them, too.  Last year, my 
husband insisted ontaking our him into Pinocchio.  I told him 
that I thought it was too scary, but he insisted that he thought Grant would 
be fine.  Well, Grant freaked out about 5 seconds into the ride, and started 
trying to climb out of the moving chair!  He spent the rest of the ride 
hiding his face in my sweater.  I am able to tolerate them, but you 
couldn't pay me to go on one of these types of rides alone.
From: rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Eisner not afraid of big, bad recession
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:20:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.39374
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Oct12.024204.18864@PA.dec.com> snopes%club33@stlth.enet.dec.com (snopes) writes:
>
>
>                    Eisner not afraid of big, bad recession
>
>   ORLANDO -- "It's almost as though there were no recession at Disney," said
>Michael Eisner, chairman and chief executive officer of Walt Disney Co.
>"That's why we're so aggressive in marketing new things."

Gee, I'd think they'd be doing that *because* of the recession;
gotta keep the cash flowing in from somewhere if they want to keep
up with their expansion schedule.

>"Walt Disney World is a pro-family attraction.  We welcome all families,
>including Candi Bergen," Eisner said.

|-P  Okay, I giggled, but this is really getting old.  The Disney
corn is in full evidence here.

>   Green said the company is close to wrapping an agreement for acquisition of
>the 8,500-acre Walker Ranch in Central Florida to be used as a preservation
>area.  Located 12 miles south of the Disney property, the ranch will be donated
>to the Nature Conservancy, which also will manage it for educational and
>preservation purposes.

I don't have any details at hand, but this is only part of a deal
that allows Disney to develop another--very large--parcel of swampland.
Nice PR, however.


- Robert Cook
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From: mousktr@milton.u.washington.edu (Denise Lockner)
Subject: Re: Children & 3-D Movies
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:00:27 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.185113.3383@cs.ucla.edu> reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:
>In article <2237@usna.NAVY.MIL> wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.MIL (Wm. Douglas Withers -- math  FACULTY <wdw@sma.usna.navy.mil>) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct7.153908.15195@news.ysu.edu> ad198@yfn.ysu.edu (Carl Landis) writes:
>>
>>The only trauma was caused by Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.  After riding it once,
>>the three-year-old refused (as only a three-year-old can refuse) to enter
>>any of the rides having similar-looking entrances (Snow White, Peter Pan).
>
>Very interesting.  Another poster has also mentioned Mr. Toad's Wild Ride
>as one that frightened her child, and I can attest, second hand, that it
>has been doing so for many years.  My elder brother, when just a wee tot,
>bit my father rather than permit himself to be taken on this attraction.
>That must have been some thirty years ago.  I wonder what it is about
>Mr. Toad's Wild Ride that children find so uniquely disturbing?
>
>--
>               Peter Reiher
>               reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
>
 I think it's because it's the only part of Disneyland that deals so
 graphically with death.  In "Snow White's Scary Adventures", the Wicked
 Queen gets killed in the end, but she isn't depicted going to hell or
 anything of the magnitude of "Mr. Toad's Wild Ride".  Everytime I went on
 that attraction I always wondered what possessed the Imagineers to portray
 that part in the dark ride. Hmmm....

-Denise
*******
"If you can't say something nice..don't say nothin' at all." -THUMPER

DISNEY UNIVERSITY CLASS OF '92
From: epatter@willamette.edu (Eric Patterson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: B&B "Work-in-Progress" on tape? Beta?
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:16:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: willamet.Bw6Lr5.Mvt
Organization: Willamette University, Salem OR

In article <1992Oct14.122108.1@alien.gici.com> laut@alien.gici.com (Bill Laut) writes:
>
>	Can anyone tell me the following, regarding "Beauty and the Beast":
>
>	#2 - Will the "Work-in-Progress" be issued on tape, or just LD?

The Collector's edition (pre-order price $79.99) will include the Work in
Progress version on VHS.  Disney Stores should have this set on the BatB
displays now.  (It took a while for Disney to get this info out to the
Stores, many of them were the last to know!)


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From: rlancast@andy.bgsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: WDW at New Years
Date: 11 Oct 92 22:00:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: andy.Bvz949.Do1
Organization: Bowling Green State University

In article <1992Oct9.222946.27206@midway.uchicago.edu> kolt@quads.uchicago.edu
(Matt K/Gonzo) writes:
>1 Jan is light, and 2-3 jan are quite dead.

I agree.  I've been in Disney World the first part of the year nearly every
year since 1985.  As someone else remarked, December 31 is amazingly busy
throughout the park.  January 1, though, isn't that bad--especially early in
the day.  (Guess some people might be hung over from the night before.)  I
generally arrive Dec. 31 or January 1 and stay 6 or 7 nights.  As the week goes
on, the crowds get smaller and smaller until, by Jan. 4 or 5, it feels like you
have the park to yourself.

In terms of New Years Eve, each of the parks is open late, and there's also a
lot going on at Pleasure Island.  However, for reasons stated above, I usually
hit the sack early so I can be at the parks when they open the next day.

One downside of this:  Some of the attractions close for refurbishing starting
around January 2 or 3.  When I was there last year, for example, Typhoon Lagoon
was closed for refurbishing from January 2 until mid-February.  I don't know if
it's possible in general to find out in advance what will be closed, but last
year WDW sent me a letter warning me of the closure of TL.  (I always stay on
site, so they know I'm coming.)

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Department of Computer Science     bitnet: RLANCAST@BGSUOPIE
Bowling Green State University     Office: (419) 372-8697
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From: Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Corporate News - Pt. 1
Date: 10 Oct 92 06:27:37 GMT
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

Reposted from a message originally posted in Fidonet's Disney echo on
Oct 7, 1992 at 14:29:00 by Ed Sterrett (1:3633/2) to All
Subject: Corporate News
 
The Walt Disney Company--
 
* The WDC recieved the 1992 Founders Award for Corporate Growth from
the os Angeles chapter of the Association for Corporate Growth.
 
* The WDC was recently the recipient of the 1992 Industry Award
presented by Meeting Planners International (MPI).  Disney was
recognized for its continuous support and promotion of professional
meetings.
 
* The WDC hopes to raise $1 million for loans to small business owners
in riot-torn areas of Los Angeles.  The money will provide initial
financing for a First African Methodist Church program that will offer
loans of $2000-$20,000 to community residents who own or are starting
a business in the inner city.  Michael Eisner and Frank Wells wrote to
the Company's 25,000 West Coast Cast Members to solicit contributions,
saying that the Company wil match worker's donations
dollar-for-dollar.
 
 
Walt Disney Attractions--
WDW-
 
*  On Wednesday, Aug 5, 10-year-old Brandon Adams became the 400
millionth guest to visit a Walt Disney World theme park.  The sixth
grader and his family , from Baltimore, Maryland, recieved lifetime
passes to all Disney Parks world-wide, a special plaque commemorating
the occaision, Disney watches, and were treated to a VIP tour of the
park and lunch at the Hollywood Brown Derby.
 
*  Comedian Robert Klein has signed on as host of the 13 show series
"Stand Up, Sit Down", to be shot at the Comedy Warehouse on Pleasure
Island and broadcast on E! Entertainment Television.  The first of the
half hour shows was taped on Aug 17 and featured comedian Cathy
Ladman.
 
 
DL-
 
*  The 60 acre Disneyland Hotel has been announced a winner of a 1992
Gold Key Award by a vote of the readers of "Meetings and Conventions"
magazine.  Selections were based on meeting staff, meeting rooms,
guest services, food/beverage service, reservations handling,
recreational facilities and audio-visual/tech support.
 
*  "Medical Meetings" magazine, representing the medical
conference/convention market, announced the Disneyland Hotel as its
winner of the 1992 Merit and Distinction Award by its readers.  This
year marks the 5th consecutive time that The Disneyland Hotel has won
this award since its inception in 1988.
 
 
                         -cont-

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From: Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Branson In Newspaper
Distribution: world
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:55:32 CST
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

The following was first posted by Karen Richmond (1:123/43.1) in the
Disney echo of Fidonet on Oct. 11, 1992:
 
(Quoting)
 
Hello All!
 
from THE COMMERCIAL APPEAL
Memphis,TN
Friday, Oct.8,1992
 
DISNEY EYES BRANSON SPOT
 
Springfield, MO (AP)--The town of Branson's sudden status as a country
music mecca has caught the eye of Walt Disney Co., which is considering
a new development there.
 
Disney Chief Executive Officer Michael Eisner and Vice Chairman Roy
Disney confirmed company officials visited the Branson area in late
September.  They were investigating the recreational potential of the
area around Branson.
 
********************************************************************
 
well that's all it said.....
 
Karen
 
(End of text)

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From: winter@Apple.COM (Patty Winter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: EuroDisney mention on "Marketplace"
Date: 14 Oct 92 06:43:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA


American Public Radio's "Marketplace" business program gave a good
plug to EuroDisneyland today. Their "Savvy Traveler" reporter
suggested ED as a great place for families to take their kids if
the kids get bored with Paris. He even brought up the interesting
idea of staying at ED (especially with the off-season hotel rates
now in effect there) and going into Paris during the day instead
of vice versa. Is ED really only 20 minutes from Paris by train,
as he said?

Of course, an argument could be made that one isn't exactly visiting
the real France by doing this. Still, it might be a good option
for some people. 


Patty
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From: rebeccal@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Rebecca S. Lawrence)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: B&B Gifs
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:32:15 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

There are two really nice gifs (one from "Something There", with Belle peeking
around the tree, and one Black and White gif from the Ballroom scene) at
the ftp site garfield.catt.ncsu.edu in the /pub/graphics/images/othertoons 
directory. There's also a full directory just for Little Mermaid gifs.
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rebeccal@csugrad.cs.vt.edu    | yesterday, I saw you today, but I 
VPI & SU                      | must see you tomorrow as well....
From: lgb2@po.CWRU.Edu (Linda G. Brashear)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Cinderella's Castle WDW
Date: 10 Oct 1992 04:37:13 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


Just FYI that doesn't actually relate directly to Disney, but on the
topic of Schloss Neuschwanstein, while I have my little tourist book
out, the castle has parts that were inspired by the castle at Wartburg
(the Singer's Hall, for example).  Neuschwanstein is supposed to be
modeled after the style of the knight castles of the Middle Ages, and
Wartburg was a prime example of that.  However, Neuschwanstein ended up
as a romanticized, idealized perceptions of medieval architecture rather
than an actual recreation of the style.  Disney then took the idealization
a step farther (actually, several, several steps).  The person who said 
the Cinderella castle is modeled after the castle in Nurmberg was probably
thinking of the Wagner opera, Die Meistersinger von Nurmberg.  Since 
Neuschwanstein was also inspired by Wagner's operas, Tannhaeuser and 
Lohengrin, it's easy to connect everything.  
Linda
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From: kca@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (k.c.archie)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Children & 3-D Movies
Date: 8 Oct 92 02:06:41 GMT
Organization: AT&T

From article <1992Oct7.153908.15195@news.ysu.edu>, by ad198@yfn.ysu.edu (Carl Landis):
> 
> OK.  So maybe we shouldn't have tried it!  After all, weren't
> we the ones wondering (before we had a child) why someone
> would take a 2-year old into certain attractions at WDW?
> Well, maybe it was because _we_ wanted to see some of these
> attractions.  Anyway, here's what happened:  We took our 2.5
> year old daughter (only child so far) to WDW.  On the first
> day we rode the carousel and Dumbo and then went into "Journey
> into Imagination".  She was OK during the 3-D cartoon but 
> completely flipped out during the movie.  She would not even
> go into a dimly lit restaurent for the rest of the week.  She
> tried to run out of the hotel room when we turned on the TV!
> This lasted for about 2 to 3 weeks.  We could get her to
> watch Misterrodgers on public TV and go into McDonald's but
> she was so jittery for the first week or two.  My wife and
> I felt TERRIBLE!  We thought we gave her a complex for life!
> So, be forewarned!  What we think is mild may be very intense
> for our little ones!  BTW, she is fine now.  Like I said,
> she recovered completely after a few weeks.
> 
> Has anybody else had any similar experiences?  PLEASE say
> yes so I don't feel like a total failure as a parent!
> 
> -Carl

Well, we had a similar experience but with different things.
Our daughter, about 3 at the time, didn't mind any of the 3D
films she saw. It was fun watching her reach for things in the Muppets
show at MGM. We saw 'Journey Into Imagination' and Maddy
was attentive but didn't get too excited.

On the other hand, on our first afternoon there, we took
her on 'Toad's Wild Ride'. She likes the Disney 'Wind
in the Willows' film but really hated this ride. She was crying
and trying toget out after the first 30 seconds. She
wanted to go home right then. She got mostly over it but
the thing she liked best was seeing the characters.

You can never tell how a kid will react to something.
Later, she had a good time at the Indiana Jones stunt show.
She still talks about the cars going 'kaboom'.
So don't feel bad. All you can do is expose
you kid to new things and hope you find things she likes.
**kent
Kent Archie
kca@iwtqg.att.com
From: mstern@lindsay.Princeton.EDU (Marlene J. Stern)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Disney stock
Keywords: stock
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:13:27 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

We are considering purchasing Disney stock.  Are there any perks that  
stockholders are entitled to?  Thanks  Marlene     mstern@lindsay
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From: Terry.Baldridge@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Terry Baldridge)
Subject: Re: Disney Store List
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:29:42 GMT

In article <Rich_Koster.0u99@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US> Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster) writes:
>To whoever is keeping the list of the Disney stores:
>.....and another one i in baton Rouge (but I don't know its specific address).

>Internet: rich_koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US

The one in Baton Rouge is in Cortana Mall.

terry
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