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From: cashaw@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Craig Shaw)
Subject: Re: ???Primus???
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:41:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.152528.16017@fwi.uva.nl>, schavema@fwi.uva.nl (John Schavemaker) writes:
> IBA100@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> 
> >Any one have any news on anything new from Primus?
> >I'm new at this, I think there considered "alternative" and yet I've never
> >seen any type of discussion on this news group.
> >anyway, If anyone Does have any news let me know.
> >-Bern
> >-IBA100
> 
> 	As far as I know, the newest from Primus is an EP with four
> 	cover versions on it. I can't remember the bands they have
> 	covered on their new EP but listening to it was quit impressing.
> 	The bass player, Les Claypool - correct me, if I spelled this 
> 	wrong -, uses a 6-string fretless bass on some of the songs, 
> 	if you know what he can do with a normal bass, you know what 
> 	to expect on this EP !
> 	I also heard a rumour that Les Claypool is to be voted "best
> 	bass player of the year". I have no idea who or what is voting 
> 	him, so can anybody throw some light on this ? Thanx !
> 
> 	John Schavemaker
Sorry about that temporary lapse!
Sinister Exaggerator is by The Residents and the Gabriel tune is Intruder.


					Craig.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: "allan canney" <allan.canney@canrem.com>
Subject: sid/joy division
Reply-To: "allan canney" <allan.canney@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:37:15 EST

-> In article <Bv2284.B94@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tchess@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu
-> (T. Chris Es
-> > The only other musical experience that I know of that he had was
-> playing > drums at a very easrly Souxsie and the Banshees gig.
-> >
->
-> Well, Sid actually played drums at early Joy Division gig!
->
-> Tumpa

At what show is this, I've checked both An Ideal For Living, and The New
Order/Joy Division biographys and they make no mention of this, and they
both list most of the Joy Division shows.
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: straffin@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Ethan Douglas Straffin)
Subject: REM: Okay, I'll bite.
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 09:54:07 GMT

   All this discussion about the new album, and yet nobody's brought
up the all-important question, which is:

   WHAT THE HECK IS STIPE SINGING IN THE CHORUS TO "SIDEWINDER"?

   Or is this obvious to everybody except me?  :-)

   Btw, I think "Try Not To Breathe" squeaks by with the "best song"
award.  Sort of a lyrical sequel to "Losing My Religion," no?
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:46:34 EDT
From: elissa cunniff <EMC110@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: REM (again) 4/R question

Ok, so we know that there are 4's over the R's on Green.  But what about
this one: I recently bought Life's Rich Pageant on cd.  On the cd itself,
where the songs are listed (and numbered), there's an R instead of the
number 4 for the 4th track.  The cd was most likely manufactured after Green
came out, which would kinda explain this allusion, but I was just wondering
if anybody else had noticed this on their cd.  No comment about the number
conspiracy theory....
                                      -=-=-=-elissa.
              "baby, instant soup doesn't really grab me"
                                         -j.m. stipe

     p.s. does anybody out there know what the 'j' stands for????
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: matt
Subject: Re: Sinead does SNL
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:37:46 GMT


First of all, I know that political and religious commentary isn't the
purpose of alt.music.alternative but I really don't care.  Sinead put out a
valid interpretation of many individuals' feelings towards the church.  She
was not attacking the Pope directly, but rather she was showing her
contempt for the religious dogma that is shoved down our throats every day.
 The sepertion of church and state does not exist-->everyone of our elected
officals is a devout "beleiver."  Our school boardrooms are being invaded
by bible-toting "doogooders," yet look at how fucked up our world is.  The
church is everywhere, it controls everything, yet it throws blame
everywhere else.  Religion is a hipocracy.  "Finding God" does not really
change anyone's life, it is merely a transferance of all of our
misunderstandings and confusions about the real world to some deity that
man himself has created (imagined) to explain what he cannot.  Shit, I
can't even sneeze without hearing "bless you;" this statement obviously
originated when we couldn't understand sneezing--so we made it a fucking
religous event.  Notice that as natural science contradicts everything that
was once attributed to God (evolution, sneezing, etc., etc.) people still
fail to doubt their faith because they have been so religiously
indoctrinated throughout their lives.  God is nothing but an naive nation's
security blanket.  Put aside what you have been forced to learn since you
we too young to speak.  Does it really make sense?  Sinead speaks the
"forbidden" truth.

      "If you're out there, I want to see you"
From: jdinkins@spaquatic.Eng.Sun.COM (Jeff Dinkins)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Anyone know anything about the Falling Joys?
Date: 15 Oct 92 00:57:03 GMT
Reply-To: jdinkins@spaquatic.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: 3-D House of Slave Chicks
NNTP-Posting-Host: spaquatic


 just found Psychohum at a used cd store...

 Most of the songs are really strong, 2 or 3 or pretty dull.

 Never heard of them before I bought this cd, sooo... does anyone
know who they are - whats their history? Is Pat (guitar/vocals) male or 
female? Is Suzie Higgie (vocals/guitar/keys/writer of all the songs) a known
comodity (i.e. has she done anything else)

jeff
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Saturday, 3 Oct 1992 14:15:35 EDT
From: <N88BC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: The The
 <92270.112421N88BC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <schwager.717897542@mike.cs.uiuc.edu>

I didn't forget Soul Mining by any means--I was responding to his question.
It's my favorite LP by The The to be honest. Yes, it does have catchy beats and
all that, but it's still damn good!
                     --Michele
                          NYC

"This is the day, your life could really change
       This is the day, when things fall into place"
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: maple@seas.gwu.edu (Maple M. Moriji)
Subject: Re: L7/Mudhoney Lyrics
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:44:18 GMT

gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO) writes:
:
: 	IN 'N' OUT OF GRACE
: 
: 	Jesus take me to a higher place
: 	Like in 'n' out of grace...
        ^^^^

Shouldn't that be "Sliding in 'n' out of grace?"  At least that's
what it sounds like to me.  Thanks for the lyrics though.  It'll
help me out a lot!

C++ ya,

Maple

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From: Bo Orloff <bo@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:56 PDT
Subject: Re: The Might Be Giants
Nf-ID: #R:BvroGB.79r@news.cso.uiuc.edu:1998641125:cdp:1626800034:000:1702
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!bo    Oct 13 19:56:00 1992


Just a reminder that there's still time to drop out of school, quit
your job and/or abandon your family and run away to New York City and
catch all 8 nights of TMBG's fabulous Rocktoberfest...     

 **********************************************************
 *                                                        *
 *       THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS ROCKTOBERFEST 1992          *
 *                                                        *
 *                 EIGHT NIGHTS OFF-BROADWAY              *
 *   at the Variety Arts Theater / 110 Third Ave / NYC    *
 *                                                        *
 *        8 Fabulous Shows!   8 Great Opening Acts!       *
 *                                                        *
 *   10/14 SYD STRAW 10/15 DAVID THOMAS 10/16 BOSS HOG    *
 *       10/17 BRIAN DEWAN 10/18 EUGENE CHADBOURNE        *
 *  10/20 THE A-BONES 10/21 ROBIN HOLCOMB 10/22 DRINK ME  *
 *                                                        *
 *             Door Time For All Shows is 6:30 PM         *
 *                                                        *
 *         All tix $22 per show. All Ages Admitted.       *
 *        Limited Seating. Advance Purchase Suggested.    *
 * To charge tix by phone call Telecharge at 212-239-6200 *
 *                                                        *
 *    Due to Popular Demand 10 PM Late Shows Have Been    *
 *                Added on Fri & Sat 10/16 & 17!          *
 *                                                        *
 *      Don't Miss the NYC Rock Event of the Season!      *
 *                                                        *
 **********************************************************
.,
From: ccamfiel@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Christopher Camfield)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: The Might Be Giants
Keywords: They Might Be Giants
Date: 8 Oct 92 12:43:58 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo

>klf@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Brian Mark Bishop) writes:
>> Could it possibly be that the fans were assholes? I saw TMBG a few nights
>> ago, and Flansburgh was not like anything you describe. The Johns were
>> very polite to the crowd, and talked to us often. 
>> 
>> In the paper the next day, Flansburgh said the crowd was excellent, one
>> of the best he had played for.
>
>I saw them in Saint Louis.  John #2 (the guitar one) had the flu.  The place was
>very crowded.  The "under 21" section was the dance floor.  The "over 21" section
>was the tables, etc, behind them.  I was in the front of the "over 21" section.
>
>The "under 21" crowd were throwing things, swaying, and doing the general "pit"
>kind of things.  John #2 asked that they not do that because it detracts from those
>who don't want to.  Somebody throw something at him.  He said "if you want to see
>the show end soon, just keep chucking shit on the stage."  Somebody said "fuck you".
>He said "fuck you too".  And that was it.
>
>About the bass player.. yeah, he seemed very *enthusiastic* in playing style, but
>quite *out of it* in personality/stage presence.
>
>Got to love it when one of you favorite bands closes with a killer song from the 70s 
>that most of the "under 21's" haven't heard of.
>
>The female singer of the opening band (local?) made the comment to the "under 21"
>crowd: "didn't I babysit you in '83?"  I laughed..
>
>Otherwise...  I enjoyed it.  (Not as good as Tori 4 nights later, though)
>
When I saw them in Ottawa, some people started "surfing" or whatever you call
it, and the Johns asked them to stop.  The crowd accepted that... I didn't see
anything being thrown, even though the entire audience (well, from what I could
see) was bouncing off of the walls for the entire concert.  An absolutely
INCREDIBLE show.  (Playing too slow???? I think not!!!)

-- 
Christopher Camfield (ccamfiel@descartes.uwaterloo.ca)
"Be yourself, no matter what they say" --Sting
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: jv@irus.rri.uwo.ca (Jeffrey Verhagen)
Subject: Re: Sinead does SNL
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:22:05 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.040905.4762@netcom.com> wisner@netcom.com (Bill Wisner) writes:
>Two possibilities:
>
>(1) Sinead is an egotistical maniac bent on drawing as much attention to
>    herself as possible, and damn the consequences.
>
>(2) Sinead has very strongly held convictions, and doesn't much care who
>    gets offended by them.
>
or possibly:

 (3) Skinhead's records haven't been selling very well lately, and 
     she figures that controversy is a great way to attract a larger
     audience.
>
>Draw your own conclusions.
>
>w.

Jeff...
From: neil.black@uttsbbs.uucp (Neil Black) 
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: RE: JOY DIV TRIVIA
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:02:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591
Reply-To: neil.black@uttsbbs.uucp (Neil Black) 

The name Stiff Kittens came up when the band's manager at the time went
over to a friend's house or something.  Upon his arrival, his friend
said, "Don't go upstairs, there's stiff kittens all over."  It was in
reference to his cat which had just miscarried.
s
From: gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: New Mudhoney
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:56:43 GMT
Organization: Ostfold College

In article <1bak6bINN8ob@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cc647@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Cornick) writes:
>From: cc647@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Cornick)
>Subject: Re: New Mudhoney
>Date: 12 Oct 92 01:25:31 GMT
>
>In a previous article, mw5e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Hamilton Walker) says:
>
>>Is the new Mudhoney out yet?
>>
>>I heard it was supposed to be out on the 6th, but the person at the
>>record store said the date had been pushed back
>>
>My radio station got it this week, which means 2 to 1 that it will be in
>the stores on Tuesday.
>
HEY HEY HEY!!
This is really cool. That means that we in Norway had it before you guys.
BTW. It's a good album. Kinda different, but by no means any worse.


          /\           | I didn't say this.      | 
        /    \         | My supervisor would     | 
      /        \       | kill me if i did.       | "What's in the basket?"
    /    (<>)    \     |_________________________| 
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/____________________\ |gunnarh@sofus.dhhalden.no| "It's my brother!"
From: jsulliva@cvbnet.prime.com (mailhost)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: R.E.M. countdown theory
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:29:01 GMT

From article <1992Oct9.113325.23437@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, by Nathan.H.Saunders@dartmouth.edu (Nathan H. Saunders):
> 
> _Out of TIme_ has three words?  Now you're pushing it.
> 
In an interview with Michael Stipe, he said that the name _Out of TIme_
came about because they ran out of time in trying to agree on a name.
Michael's suggestion was _Cat Butt_ while Peter Buck's has always been
_Trolling for Olives_. The name of the new one comes from a diner(?)
name in Athens, GA.

BTW, did anyone see that Rolling Stone magazine gave "Automatic" a
5-star (classic) rating? They're generally pretty stingy with those, too.

Anyone know what the other REM albums earned from RS?

-Jeff
Jeff Sullivan | Computervision Corp. | jsulliva@cvbnet.Prime.COM
CADDS R&D     | Bedford, MA    01730 | sun!cvbnet!jsulliva
From: Lawrence.A.Kim@dartmouth.edu (Lawrence A. Kim)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: jesus and mary chain tour?
Date: 9 Oct 92 02:18:28 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

i heard from a friend that the jesus and mary chain, curve, and
spiritualized (possibly including some more bands) are on a tour
entitled the "rollercoaster" tour. does anyone know if this tour plans
to come to the boston area anytime? please e-mail or post if you know
any info regarding this matter. thanks in advance!

-lawrence kim (lawrence.a.kim@dartmouth.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: bigstar@hardy.u.washington.edu (Praline)
Subject: Re: R.E.M.
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:09:06 GMT

s14182sm@UMASSD.EDU writes:

>I NOTICED ALL THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS GOING AROUND SO I JUST DECIDED
>TO POST MY OPINION OF MY BEST GROUP WHICH IS R.E.M.
>CHRONIC TOWN
>MURMUR
>FABLES OF THE RECONSTRUCTION
>OUT OF TIME 
>RECKONING
>GREEN\
>DOCUMENT
>LIFE'S RICH PAGEANT
>MADE IN HEAVEN
>AUTOMATIC FOR THE PEOPLE

>                                 ALL RATE HIGH WITH ME.

						STEVE

YOU
ARE 
ONE
VERY 
LITERATE
INDIVIDUAL
WHO
RATE 
HIGH
WITH
ME
TOO
			JARRETT
-- 


                 --=={{ bigstar@u.washington.edu }}==--

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,alt.music.misc
From: acw4@quads.uchicago.edu ("The Wan-ster")
Subject: Re: The Orb
Reply-To: acw4@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 22:36:01 GMT

Seeing all these postings about Orb, I'd like to start listening to 
some of their music. (Especially if it's supposed to be like Pink Floyd
or Art of Noise).  Could someone suggest their best album?

Also, I'm interested in this "Ambience movement."
More info on it, please!!!

Please send to my email address. acw4@quads.uchicago.edu
Thanks.

THe Wanster.


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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: kbennett@milton.u.washington.edu (K. Lena Bennett; Slacker Goddess)
Subject: Re: R.E.M.--Nightswimming
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:29:28 GMT

tedr@athena.cs.uga.edu (Ted Kalivoda) writes:

>As for the song nightswimming, I was there...an intersesting event one night
>at Peter's house. 

>Ted


If the comments in the "Pulse" interview were any indication, it's the
kind of thing that they said occurred several times....  sounds pretty
provocative to me but I'm not wanting to invade anyone's privacy.  Still,
I'm damned curious :)

Lena
From: mecca@acsu.buffalo.edu (Starkitty)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: The Tragically Hip's Newest Release: Fully Completely (sp?)
Date: 11 Oct 92 16:41:14 GMT
Organization: WFFT ub's ONLY student station

Does anyone know when this is coming out statewide.. I'm quite confident that
it will (I sure hope anyways) because of the success of Road Apples. I heard
"Locked in the Trunk of a Car" on CFNY and some of my friend's say that the
rock stations 97.7 and 107.1 have played the cd in it's entirety on the air.

I work at a radio station, and do a Canadian Music Feature Show so I hope it
comes out real soon!

Anyone have suggestions for music for my show?? So far I am featuring: Blue
Rodeo, The Tragically Hip (of course!), The Grapes of Wrath, The Crash Test
Dummies, The Northern Pikes, stuff like that.

--Renee C. Mecca
mecca@acsu.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: rcj@engin.umich.edu (R o d Johnson)
Subject: Re: orb fags
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 23:46:03 EDT
Organization: Lost Tribes of Gazebo

In article <RJC.92Oct15163329@daiches.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> rjc@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Caley) writes:

>I see the internet<->bigotnet link is up again.

Looks like a renegade doofusnet gateway to me.




-- 
       Rod Johnson  *  rcj@caen.engin.umich.edu  *  (313) 764-3103
    
                "What I do doesn't happen in a warehouse"
                                          --Jim Dickinson
From: eftv03@castle.ed.ac.uk (L R Watt)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Big Black re-issues
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:32:07 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University, UK


   This week's Melody Maker states that the entire Big
Black back catalogue will be re-issued next month, along
with a previously unreleased live LP.  And a video too I
think.  Well...we shall see.

Lindsay.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Sinead does SNL
From: jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner)
Date: 13 Oct 92 23:21:06 EST
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

mtl2001@andy.bgsu.edu (gretchen) writes:
> 
> Two words; First Amendment 

oh yeah, that's good. the first amendment sez that SNL has a 
responsibility to provide sinead with a platform for her politics. 
hehehe. hardly.

i don't much care what she did (in Monty Python voice: "It's only
a picture!"), but the asinine idea that she has a right to do whatever
she wants on someone else's time needs to get squashed but good.

jason

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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: c60a-hj@danube.Berkeley.EDU (Eric Shieh)
Subject: JD  Box set
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 19:50:34 GMT

Hi, I was wondering if anyone who has the Joy Division Box Set or knows
anything about it could tell me what's in it (since the box is printed
in Japanese....) and if it's any good...

Thanks


Organization: Masters student, Information Networking Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:19:01 -0400 
From: Michael Hofsass <mh6c+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: INXS
	<Bvuu6t.8MK@cs.vu.nl>



Okay...
	define "alternative"

(can't wait for this one)

That INXS fan...


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