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From: hkostama@hila.hut.fi (Hanna Kostama)
Subject: Reader Bio - a sad one
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:46:45 GMT


Hi,
my name is Hanna Kostama and I live just outside of Helsinki, Finland.
Riding is very popular in Finland. In the winter season here it is 
sometimes a bit rough because of the cold. The ground is also often 
too icy. But the beuty of the nature under the snow cover is 
unbelievable and makes trail riding even more fun.

My own Equestrian Bio just turned awfully sad today as I had to sell
my lovely horse Aqua, a 12-years old Danish dressage gelding. 
I had been riding for some 20 years when I finally bought a horse of 
my own. I enjoyed him very much. But now I am about to start a traveling 
job, so I will not be having enough time for a good care of a horse 
(plus a family of a husband, a 3-year-old son and a dog). It was quite 
easy to find a nice new owner for Aqua because of his cutiness - in the 
same time I was sad it went so soon. The happy years with him passed too 
quickly and then suddenly as he is about to move away, it seems there will
be just emptiness.  
-
Did you ever go through this? How did you manage it?

Hanna
From: deblev@nimoy.ipac.caltech.edu (Debbie Levine)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: Riding breeches - need advice.
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:45:21 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
NNTP-Posting-Host: nimoy.ipac.caltech.edu

In article <1993Jan26.201552.26118@nmsu.edu> amerritt@dante.nmsu.edu (Angela Merritt) writes:
>Hi,
>I was wondering if anyone would like to recommend their favorite
>riding breeches.  
>...  Does anyone know if the nylon blends hold
>up better than the cotton? 

The mostly-nylon types hold up MUCH better than the cotton ones in my
experience.  I have a pair of "Elan" cotton-lined smooth nylon breeches
(Millers used to distribute them, they have a funny contour cut
and no kneepatch) that are in great condition after 11 years!

I've had really bad luck with the cotton breeches.  I got a couple of 
pairs when they first came out and they were REALLY comfortable
and I thought they were just going to be THE best thing, but they
started to rip at the seams and where the patches were sewn on in
only a couple of months.  They may have fixed this problem since,
but I've never bought another pair.  

    Debbie  (& Split  & Morris)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: clever@sequent.com (Cathy Cleverley)
Subject: Re: which magazines?
Keywords: good horse magazine
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems (Canada) Ltd.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:09:55 GMT

tim@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca (Tim Pointing) writes:

>Greetings! I've been mostly lurking for a couple of years here, contributing
>where my meager knowledge allows but mostly just learning a lot. [Thanks!]

>My question for y'all today is on horsey magazines... What magazine(s)
>do you like and why? What areas do they focus on? How techincal are they?
>etc etc.
>--
>Tim Pointing, DCIEM
>tim@dciem.dnd.ca or tim@ben.dciem.dnd.ca

I subscribe to Practical Horseman and Equus.  Being in Canada, I also
get Horse Sport.~

For enjoyment I buy Spur ("The mag of Thoroughbred and Country Life"),
which I describe as National Geographic meets horses.  It has the most
beautiful production imaginable.  The magazine format includes a
calendar of equestrian events for the following months including
racing, hunter/jumper, polo and steeplechase.  It has an article on a
North American show place farm (Sam-Son was featured recently)
articles on riders, a monthly sporting art feature and an article on a
particular area (eg Chesepeake, Virginia Hunt Country, Palm Beach etc)~

When I want to catch up on the hunter/jumper scene from an insiders
view I read "Horses".  Although the production of "Horses" is
gorgeous, its "we're on the inside and aren't we fabulous" style makes
me gag.

My two faves are PH and Equus.~

PH has the best technical how-to articles.  I enjoy playing along
with the confirmation clinic and reading how George Morris sees
various jumpers.~

If you only buy one magazine, I would recommend Equus.  It has how-to
articles as well as general information and a specific article each
month on various horse issues (Laminitis, feeding, movement come to
mind).~
--
Cathy Cleverley                                 clever@sequent.com
Sequent Computer Systems (Canada) Ltd.          +1 416 629-4000
"An expert is anyone more than 100 miles~
from home with a set of slides"
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 12:05:01 EST
From: <DBEAM@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: re: reader bios

Greeting from West Virginia
I am Diana Beam, an applications programmer/analyst at the WVU Health
Sciences Center.
My first experience on a horse was riding the plow horse home from the
corn field when I was 3 or 4 yo.  Like many other people on the net
I rode wild as a child, then quit during the college and get a job years.
Recently I purchased a 50 acre farm not too far from the University and am
working hard at getting everything back in order.
I have 3 horses: Apollo - 8yo TB gelding; Beauty - 12yo Arab/QT cross mare
and Little Man - 7mo. AQHA stallion (but not for long, since I recently
read several of the articles mostly against raising stallions:).
This network has become a valuable resource for me and I hope to be
able to contribute something back once in a while.
Thanks
Diana Beam (Dbeam@wvnvm.wvnet.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: swong@galaxy.mpr.ca (Susan Wong)
Subject: Re: Dressage Saddles for short people
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 20:06:54 GMT

I just went through the same thing. I'm 5 ft tall *and* I have short legs.

I bought an "Obrist" saddle made by a swiss company, Fels Bach. The top of the
saddle is covered in pig skin and is really comfortable, but more fragile than
normal leather. 

I recommend looking at used tack, especially for old style dressage saddles. The
new style ones have quite long flaps and also the long billet straps. The older
style ones, I found tend to have shorter flaps, typically about 2" shorter, and 
they also tend to have normal billet straps so you can use your old girths.

The Obrist is an "old" styple dressage saddle. I found that there are a fair
number of the old type saddles around for sale in fairly good shape and reasonably
cheap. The one I got was in pristine condition and I got it for $550.

Another rider in my barn has the same leg problem. She got a used stubben dressage
saddle that worked. I can't remember the model name, but they are black on top
with tan bottoms (can someone help me out here?). 

Susan
From: gunnj@ddn-wms.nmi.com (Janet Gunn)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: Reader bio
Summary: combined training
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:17:22 GMT
Organization: Network Mgmt Inc., Fairfax, VA


Hi. I'm Janet Gunn, I live in Virginia, and I have been involved with
horses, off and on, since I was a kid.

My horsey credentials -

graduate B Pony Clubber, Golden's Bridge Hounds Pony Club, Metropolitan Region,
mid '60s to early 70s
Competed in Combined Training up to the Training level (hope to do Prelim)
Hunters to 3'6"
Jumpers to 3'9"
Dressage to First Level (some work at 2nd Level
Some Foxhunting
Trained 4 horses from scratch to various level (2 for other people)
I have leased as many horses (4) as I have owned.

I currently own 2 horses. 
Night Music is a rising 7yo TBxQH 16h1 1/2" mare I have had since she was
a yearling.  For various reasons, last year was a bust, but she should be going
Training this year.  Very laid back, very smart, good mover, good jumper.

I Spy is a rising 11yo registered TB 15h3" gelding out of a Babu Dancer mare,
bred by the breedeer of JJ Babu.  He got to be 8 without ever being broken,
and was then sold at auction when the breeder (in his mid 90s) dispersed his
farm.  At that point, my sister bought his full sister, 2 years younger.  
A year later I got a call saying that the man who had bought him had not been
able to do anything with him (he would get on Spy's back, and Spy wouldn't move)
and had not been able to sell him to anyone else.  He had lost his shoes and
was lame from sore feet, and was going to the local cheap auction the next 
evening unless someone bought him first (for $400).  Since his sister, Daisy,
had turned out so well, and since the I hated the thought of an unspoiled 
horse with real potential turning into dogfood, I decided it was worth the
gamble.  The idea is to train him enough to turn him from a useless horse
to a useful horse, and sell him to a good home.  He has a really relaxed and
friendly temprament, so I think he would make a good kid's horse.  At any rate,
even though I couldn't ride for half of '92, he is now jumping round little 2'
courses.  He should start out this year with some pre-novice events, and 
then move up to novice.

I am the Treasurer, and a founding member, of the local combined training
association CDCTA.

I am the organizer for the CDCTA Spring Horse Trials, at Commonwealth Park
in Culpeper Va, May 22-23 this year.  We need a total of about 100 volunteers
to put on the event.  If anyone is interested in helping, please let me know.
We need everything - stadium set up and ring crew, scribes for judges, 
Cross country jump judges, timers, people to deliver food to the judges, 
outriders, etc., etc. You don't need to know a lot to do these things, and
we will train you.

I post occaisionally, usually when someone asks a question I think I know 
the answer to.

I am a technical director at NMI, acomputer communications and distributed
computing consulting and services company in Fairfax Va.

My other sport is motorcycle roadracing.

Janet Gunn
703-218-5075
gunnj@nmi.com
From: sbishop@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Predicting foaling 
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:46:11 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 


One of my local vets taught me a trick with pregnant mares that has worked
every time for predicting foaling withing 24 hours.  
You DO need a gentle mare for this, one who is not nasty about someone 
handling her rear end.  Anyway, gently (VERY gently) part the vaginal
lips.  If the mare is rosy pink, don't get excited.  If the area inside
is deep purple, you will almost certainly have a new small stranger in
the barn very soon.  I've managed to predict foaling three times out of
three this way.

Sue
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: traine@peaks.fsl.noaa.gov (Tracy Smith)
Subject: Re: Cold-weather riding
Organization: Forecast Systems Lab, NOAA - Boulder CO, USA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:11:47 GMT

If your just going out for a trail ride & don't care about fashion, mechanic's
overalls (brownies) over your longies/sweaters/jeans/jacket and Sorel Caribou
boots with wool socks and polypro liners will even keep you warm below zero (but
not in a blizzard, with wind chills at -40 unfortunately).  It's the standard
winter riding outfit on ranches in Wyoming.

         Tracy Lorraine Smith  Mom to Mixum Sam, Appy/QH gelding
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: fskjp@acad3.alaska.edu (PRICHARD KIMBERLY J)
Subject: cold weather riding
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAC
Organization: University of Alaska - Fairbanks
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:12:00 GMT

Up here things have been too cold to ride the last few
days... like 45-55 below zero.  Even the indoor is too
cold right now,  but when it warms up and we do get to 
ride.  I use a blow dryer to get rid of any dampness
in the horses coats.   Most of them are not really keen 
on the noise but once the feel the warmth they general
get over their nevrous.

As far as keeping me warm I like thinsulate and
polar fleece.  And use at least 3 layers.  Some
contact is lost but not enough to cause any problems
I really like these thermal foot insluators that I 
ordered from Dover.  they work great!

Hope the dryer helps.
Kim & Alex
From: GC.SUL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Sullys Maze)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: opinion on Wintec
Date: 21 Jan 1993 10:08:26 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

I can put in several second hand opinions on Wintec.  I was
seriously considering the Sport Endurance, because we do a lot of
water riding, and it fit me and was really comfortable.  I have
since talked to Skito Enterprises (they make endurance pads) and
they have heard of a lot problems with Wintec's from people who do
Endurance and try to correct the problem with a better pad (which
doesn't work) I would assume if the saddle doesn't fit well enough
for an Endurance ride, I wouldn't want it as we do some day rides.
Also talked to Sport tack and they felt the same way about Wintec's
 and other opinions talked me out of it.

Karen
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: Karen_Allen@Novell.COM (Karen Allen x 8712)
Subject: Bio
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:16:30 GMT

Hi everyone!  I'll keep this short...my name is Karen Allen, I work for Novell,
Inc. as a Software Engineer for Netware for Unix.

I have just recently purchased Naliim, who is a 3 year old Egyptian Arab
Stallion.  He is being gelded today.  He is a dream come true for me.  I have
waited all my life for this opportunity.  I grew up in a small town in Idaho
and always dreamed of having a horse...as a child I would pretend I was a
horse that could run fast and graceful.  As a teenager I would use that 
imagery to help me win track events...funny, huh?  There were no stables
where I grew up, leasing a horse was unheard of.  If you didn't have a farm
with a place to keep a horse, you just didn't get to own a horse.

I had friends with horses and was able to ride with them occasionally, but
I didn't have the opportunity to take formal lessons and become involved until
about two years ago.  A friend of mine introduced me to the world of Stables
and horse boarding.  Until then, I still had the belief that you had to own
land before you could own a horse.  BOY, am I grateful for boarding STABLES!!

I have been taking formal lessons for two years now, and finally purchased my
first 'show quality' horse.  I had a Morgan gelding for a couple of months,
but he really wasn`t cut out for the ring...he preferred being a hick trail
horse, so I sold him to a very sweet cowboy.

I have posted a couple of times for advice with my Morgan and have really
learned a lot in the short few months I had him...but I have so much more to
learn...I read this news group faithfully and enjoy the education and 
diversity it provides.  There are so many knowledgeable people that are so
helpful and kind on this thread that it is such a pleasureful way to begin
the day.  I recognize the names of those who post frequently and feel like
they are almost family...even tho' I've not met anyone in person, yet.

Because I have had to wait so long for horse ownership, I hold the opportunity
in high esteem.  I envy those who had horses from childhood, but I'm catching
up!!  There will come a day that I can work with horses for a living...until
then, I am honored to learn from all of you and your experiences.  

It is a pleasure to meet you all!!!

Karen.
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: jen187@its.CSIRO.AU (Graham Jenkins +61 6 276 6812)
Subject: Re: want info from Kathy Ruiz and others!
Originator: jen187@commsun.its.CSIRO.AU
Organization: CSIRO ITS
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 06:28:48 GMT


In article <1jnh14INN40p@morrow.stanford.edu>, GC.SUL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Sullys Maze) writes:
|> I read the bio from Kathy Ruiz and would love more info on the ride
|> and ties.  I know how they work-I am interested in what kind of
|> saddles you use, what kind of shorts or pants, shoes, etc.  In
|> short, all the little trivial things that help facilitate doing this
|> sortof sport.  For example, since you tie up the horse at intervals,
|> do you use halter/bridles?  I would also love to hear what works
|> well with other endurance and distance folks!
|> 
|> Karen

Here in Oz, (and I see no reason why it should be different where you live),
endurance riders usually ride whatever they find most comfortable.

I usually ride in jodphurs because they are comfortable over long
periods of time in the saddle and you don't get sore spots from
creases and such in ordinary pants. I normally wear some sort of
lightweight, OLD AND COMFORTABLE running shoes because I'm off the
horse quite often running up and down hills and standing in creeks
and dams and suchlike to sponge the horse down during the ride.

As for saddles, the main criteria for selecting a saddle for endurance
is that it fits the horse EXTREMELY well. This is THE most important point.
The next consideration, way down the scale from fitting the horse,
is that it is comfortable for you to sit in for long periods of time.
Older military type saddles are often used here in Oz. I use an
Australian stock saddle which i happen to think is the best saddle
in the world for long distance type work. (Maybe I'm a little biased
here!)  I was lucky to find one that not only fits my horse extremely
well but is comfortable for me too. Not only that it also has lots of
D rings for attaching breast plates and heart rate monitors and for
tying my driza-bone on and so on.

-- 

|  Graham Jenkins          |  graham.jenkins@its.csiro.au           | 
|  CSIRO                   |  (Commonwealth Scientific & Industrial | 
|  Canberra,  AUSTRALIA    |  Research Organisation)                |
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: sysmatt@aix3090b.uky.edu (Matt Simpson)
Subject: Re: Emergency Dismount (was: What to do about fear)
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 09:00:45 GMT


I've always been told to let go of the reins when falling, since hanging on
to them is likely to pull you under the horse.

--
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Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: dabay@morse.cns.vt.edu (Marian Dabay)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: HorseAid
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:31:53 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA

A few months ago, there was a thread going on about what to
do with a horse when you want to retire him.  A lot of people
expressed concern about selling/giving away a horse to someone
they didn't know because they were afraid they would go to
the slaughter house.  Anyway, in the February issue of Horse
Illustrated there was a small article I thought might interest
some of you.  Here it is, copied, of course, without permission:

  An adoption program is the newest service provided by HorseAid,
  a division of the International Generic Horse Association.  Owners
  that can no longer keep their horses can contact the organization
  to place their horses.  HorseAid then freeze brands each horse with
  an "HA" (no kill) mark.  The brand is registered with the USDA and
  prevents sale to slaughterhouses.  Persons in possession of a
  horse marked with the "HA" brand, other than the HorseAid or the
  current legal adopter, will be prosecuted by law.  For more information
  contact the International Generic Horse Association, P.O. Box 6778,
  Rancho Palos Verdes, CA  90734-6778, (310) 719-9094.

Sounds like a neat idea!!!  


Marian Dabay
Clancy - Belgian gelding
Bunny - pinto Belgian mom-to-be
Millie - pinto Belgian mare
Budweiser - pony 
  
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: SusanS@sunfish.ratsys.com (Susan Schlenger)
Subject: my bio
Organization: Rational Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:44:05 GMT

I began to ride at age 8, have been riding for 32 years.  When I was young 
and serious, I had aspirations of grand things.  Unfortunately, my parents 
did not, for some reason, want me to compete. (I'm trying to let go of that 
in the midst of my mid-life crisis).  I've had several horses in the family; 
mostly thoroughbreds, and I ride English.  I did spend two summers in 
Montana on a working ranch, but that's another chapter.  I have two sons who 
have begun to ride at the early age of 3 and 6.  Therefore, we've recently 
purchased Poet, a Welsh pony out of the Coed Coch breeding.  He's wonderful, 
a typical terrible two years old,(mostly scared of his shadow,the white 
horses of death and squeaky wheelbarrows...) and we're beginning him with 
long lines and easy backing stuff.  My children won't ride him for some 
time, but they've bonded with him already.  He's large enough for me to have 
fun on (I'm 5'1) as well until we can afford another.  I plan a very easy 
course of early training and suppling dressage for the next year or two.  We 
board him at a wonderful family oriented stable five minutes from my home in 
Ashland, Massachusetts.  We have a choice of many stables in our area, but I 
agree with Bill Steinkraus who feels that, for children, the first teacher 
should be good with children, the second a good technician, and the third, a 
world-class trainer.  (If either of them ever make it that far!)  I'll be 
happy if they love it as I do.  I'm also a computer lawyer in my other 
life.  Glad to know you all!
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: clever@sequent.com (Cathy Cleverley)
Subject: Re: Riding breeches - need advice.
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems (Canada) Ltd.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:44:42 GMT

amerritt@dante.nmsu.edu (Angela Merritt) writes:

>Hi,
>I was wondering if anyone would like to recommend their favorite
>riding breeches.  I have some Christmas money yet to spend :-), and
>my old breeches are getting quite worn.  I have a pair of the
>Devon-Aire (mostly cotton), and I really like the fit, however it
>dosn't appear to be wearing up too well.  I've tried the Miller's
>Equestrian brand but they don't fit me too well - not high
>enough in the waist.  Does anyone know if the nylon blends hold
>up better than the cotton?  BTW these would be for everyday
>wear, so I would be most interested in those under $70.  Any and
>all advice would be appreciated!

>Angie.
>amerritt@dante.nmsu.edu

They're expensive (app $300 Cdn), but I bought a pair of full seat
Schumacker britches (in deep purple although they come in other
colours) and I *love* them!!  They have a pleat and are made of a
thick cotton, almost canvas type material.~

I also ride in Harry Hall's, which I find fit me well (I have some
extra flab around the middle :-)
--
Cathy Cleverley                                 clever@sequent.com
Sequent Computer Systems (Canada) Ltd.          +1 416 629-4000
"An expert is anyone more than 100 miles~
from home with a set of slides"
From: ms0t@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MATTHEW CHRISTIAN SZAP)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Laminitis and founder
Date: 21 Jan 93 02:48:53 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1993Jan21.022841.27420@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, ms0t@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (M
ATTHEW CHRISTIAN SZAP) writes:
>
>To equestrian community:  I am currently studying the
>  structure of horses' hooves.  The study is part of my
>  training as a graduate student in biochemistry.  One goal
>  of the study is to shed light on the well-known disease
>  of the hoof-- laminitis.  Laminitis is basically a disturbance
>  of blood flow to the hoof and may have an effect on its chemical
>  structure.
>I have plenty of samples of NON-DISEASED hoof
>  trimmings by blacksmith or farrier.  I need samples cut from
>  a DISEASED hoof-- those from a horse afflicted with full-blown
>  laminitis, mild laminitis, or even from a horse that has
>  foundered from (possibly) laminitis.  This study is important
>  and I need samples from diseased hooves for its continuation.
>  If you have an afflicted horse and would be willing to send
>  me some samples (from any species), or, if you could
>  provide the name of an owner of an afflicted horse,
>  I'd be most grateful.
>I can provide more details of the study if you need them.
>  Compensation for shipping will, of course, be provided.
>  Please respond to me through e-mail.  Your help in this
>  matter is crucial to our understanding of the disease.
>
>                      thank you,  Matt Szap
>                                  Lehigh University
>                                  Bethlehem, Pa.
      e mail:
>               ms0t@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu
>
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