From: 9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au (The Eidolon)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: J Price consistently refuses to answer the question
Date: 8 Nov 92 19:36:46 +1030
Organization: Oh look, a lifeform!

In article <1992Nov3.210902.3556@ncsu.edu>,
jjprice@eos.ncsu.edu (JEFFREY JAMES PRICE) writes:

> I think it is amazing that a 15 year old girl who can't drive,drink alchool,
> buy cigarettes,vote,go into the military,etc... can get an abortion without
> parental or judicial consent(these cases are in N.C.)
> 
> One way to at least partially solve the problem would be to get better
> conselors from clinics.

> What if your allergic to dogs/cats or it is a pitbull with a history of
> atacking humans but thats getting off the issue.
> 
> Once again a fetus will develop into a human while a dog or cat can never
> do that.

So, it's OK to kill unwanted puppies but not unwanted fetus's just
because a dog isn't a human? Are you implying that humans are in some
absolute way that humans are superior to all other animals?

> |>>She should have used birth control to prevent this.
> |>
> |>This is a very important point you've brought up repeatedly.  The
> |>obvious response is: (a) What if she _did_ use birth control?  Or (b)
> |>what if she didn't _want_ to use birth control?
> |>
> |>(a) Birth control isn't perfect, even though an awful lot of people
> |>may think it is.
> |>
> True. Education is a primary step to solving the problem because most
> abortions are performed because they are unwanted pregnancies.If we
> educate people on where babies come from we could cut down on the number hopefully

Time and time again you do not answer the question:

A woman has taken EVERY precaution she can, condom, spermicide, pill,
the works. She has indicated from the very start that she does NOT
want that pregnancy. By some cruel twist of fate, she gets pregnant.

Should she or should she not get an abortion?

> |>(b) If a girl doesn't know that sex can get her pregnant, why would
> |>she use birth control?  A better example: If a woman wants a baby, why
> |>would she use birth control?  Not all unwanted pregnancies are
> |>unwanted from the start; often, a woman who intentionally gets
> |>pregnant will experience a change in her situation that leads her to
> |>decide that she'd really rather not be pregnant at this time.
> |>
> concerning ignorance read above statement.

Answer the question: What if she is forced to change her mind because
of reasons not under her control?

> Concerning the rest of your question about an wanted pregnancy becoming
> unwanted I would absolutely keep this woman from having an abortion unless
> it threatened her life. When she intentinally got pregnant she did it
> for the sole purpose of bringing life into this world and now that she is
> carring and nurturing that life inside her womb she wants to kill it and
> snuff out its life because she's having second thoughts. How  cruel
> can you get?

Just how are you going to stop her? If she really wants to get rid
of it she will go to a backyard abortionist. What next, tie pregnant
women down just in case?? Did Romania teach you nothing?

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