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From: morin@noao.edu (Marg Morin)
Subject: Re: Colouring areola
Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson AZ
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:45:10 GMT

In article <1ej9qqINNi1h@pith.uoregon.edu> christ@cie.uoregon.edu (Christian G. Smith) writes:
>
>  I've seen pepole on a talk show (I think it was SJR) whose sole profession
>was tattooing make-up on women who were fed up with the morning ritual of 
>applying facepaint.  The job they did was +REALLY+ good.  I'm sure if you
>put some well-placed questions to a dermatologist, say, in your area about
>this sort of thing they might be able to help you locate a cosmetician who 
>could do it.  WHo knows, it might even be covered by insurance...=)
> 
>  If this option doesn't pan out (and it might be pretty expensive), just
>mosey on down to your local tattoo parlor and ask the boss about it.  Chances
>are that not only could your friend have her nipples darkened but, hey, she
>could have them darkened to any color she desired...(grin)
> 
>  Hope I helped, I live to serve...
> 
>-christian
>Kudzu on IRC
>--
> 
>When in Danger: Beat Off!
>
>--
>  When in danger: beat off.                                       

Personally, as a woman, I think it would be really, really, really painful
to have my areola tattooed! Damn! That's one of the _most_ sensitive
places on _my_ body. I would imagine, if one could withstand the needle,
there could possibly be some deadening of the sensitivity in the area.
Not a side-effect I'd want.
-- 
 The Seeker		peace to those who come in peace 
 (morin@noao.edu)	    pity to those who don't 
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From: chachra@ecf.toronto.edu (CHACHRA Debbie)
Subject: Re: Tattoo in Waterloo, ONT
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:42:20 GMT

In article <22NOV199213180341@pavo.concordia.ca> ts_rost@pavo.concordia.ca (*TsR) writes:
>
>Tat-O-Rama, on Bloor West @ Kipling - despite the name, it's otherwise a very
>impressive place. Extremely clean (although a bit small), with lots of flash on
>the walls, and they have a large collection of flashbooks. Pete is their chief
>tattooist (or was last year, anyways), and is quite friendly to talk to. They
>also take a lot of time out to talk to you about custom work, especially if you
>bring in your own design, and are patient about it if you're a tattoo neophyte.
>A lot of people get scared off at the door because the place looks... well, a 
>tad "bikerish" - but once you get past that, you'll be surprised.

(It's Tat-A-Rama, BTW).  I don't know exactly what you mean by "bikerish" - 
it's definitely the *nicest* tat shop in Toronto that I have visited.  It's 
all in tasteful grey modern, with cool furniture and (joys!) a bookshelf of
tattoo/design books, and the cubicles are very clean (they look like hospital
rooms, in fact).  The clientele of course - well, what can you do.  I went 
in on a Saturday and found myself in the (small) waiting area with about 5
other people, one of whom was a neo-Nazi - fatigues, shaved head, KKK keychain,
the works.  One becomes acutely aware of being a)not white (I'm (East) Indian)
and b) female.  The one really crummy thing about Tat-A-Rama is that they 
don't take appointments, and they are always very busy (the protocol seems to
come early, leave a note on the door, and go get coffee.  The braindead neo-
Nazi referred to above left a note that was quite similar to the following,
"BN-N was here FIRST, so fuck you!  SIEG HEIL!"  Bill Baker (who used to be the
big guy at the shop, but who I think has left) commmented on his "poetry" and
asked if he considered getting it published, and this guy just ate it up -
just completely clueless.)
>
>Accents of Skin, on Queen West @ Dufferin - highly recommended. Toby Martin owns
>Accents, and is really the only tattooist there (she has one "assistant", but he

Way Cool Tattoos on Queen West had really impressive looking photos in their
albums, but *it* looked really bikerish (real fucking scary.)

Artatorture (on Sherbourne, I think) has the shittiest looking photos, and 
really looks like a dive to boot.  Avoid.

Debbie Chachra
chachra@ecf.utoronto.ca

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From: jpage@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: India Ink for black tattoos?
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:57:40 GMT

My tattooist used black India ink for my tattoo....does anyone
have any experience with fading with this type of ink?  I heard
that there are new kinds of ink nowadays that resist fading.
Does anyone know if India ink is commonly used for black tattooes?

I just got mine done 3 months ago, and already, its beginning
to turn slightly bluish. I know that the sun will contribute to
some fading, but should it begin to fade from a deep dark black
to a bluish/black so soon?  

Im thinking of getting another tattoo soon, and would like to
hear what other experiences people have with their tattoos....

-jen
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From: pdavies@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Paul Davies)
Subject: Re: Colouring areola
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 21:14:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.194510.1484@noao.edu> morin@noao.edu (Marg Morin) writes:
>
>Personally, as a woman, I think it would be really, really, really painful
>to have my areola tattooed! Damn! That's one of the _most_ sensitive
>places on _my_ body. I would imagine, if one could withstand the needle,
>there could possibly be some deadening of the sensitivity in the area.
>Not a side-effect I'd want.
>-- 
> The Seeker		peace to those who come in peace 
> (morin@noao.edu)	    pity to those who don't 

Not being a woman (and also having pretty lifeless nipples) i can't say
how painfull that might be but I can say that getting a tattoo on one's
penis would be at the very top of the pyramid of pain.  I've seen a few
pictures of Japanese work: not just a little outline either; definately
full (or near full) coverage.


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From: jpage@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Tattooeist in Providence, RI?
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:07:01 GMT

I dont know if anyone on the net is from the Rhode Island area, but
I heard about this great tattoo place that is in Providence, Rhode
Island.  Anyone know more information?( the name, what the artists
are like, etc....)  
Apparently they are fairly reasonable in their prices, and are
very supportive and cooporative (unlike the experience I had
when I got my tattoo done a few months ago).  Im looking
for a new place for my next tattoo in the New England area....
so, I heard about this place and am intrigued............

:)--Jen
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From: selvidge@ide.com (Leah Selvidge)
Subject: Cynthia Witkin tattoos
Originator: selvidge@demo
Organization: Interactive Development Environments, SF
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 19:56:30 GMT


Upon perusal of a 1990 issue of Tattootime, I ran across a spread on an 
Albuquerque tattoo artist by the name of Cynthia Witkin who has a shop
by the name of Cynthesis Tattoo. I think I have finally seen some work that is 
incredibly original without being too abstract. I have a design that is based
on a kiva mural from the Anasazi Indians and I think she might be able to
help me work a up a design and possibly do the piece. In any case, I know
nothing about her work other than what I saw in Tattootime and am hoping to 
hear from folks who have been inked by her, know her work or someone who does.

This is my first post on a newsgroup, so if there are any major glitches in
this transmission...please advise.

Thanks

Leah

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From: ebail@ctp.com (Erik Bailey)
Subject: Re: Tattooeist in Providence, RI?
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:43:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.220701.1@hamp.hampshire.edu> jpage@hamp.hampshire.edu writes:
>I dont know if anyone on the net is from the Rhode Island area, but
>I heard about this great tattoo place that is in Providence, Rhode
>Island.  Anyone know more information?( the name, what the artists
>are like, etc....)  

Hi Jen!

Well, I and my girlfriend were tattooed at the Gold Dubloon Tattoo Studio
(also known as Artistic Tattooing) just off of Atwells Ave., behind a
furniture store on the right side as you head away from 95. I got a bird
flying out of a sunset on my right hip; she got a rose on the inside of her
left ankle. To us at the time (juniors at Brown two years ago) they looked
really good, but now with a bit more knowledge, we realize that they are
not really perfect.

That does NOT mean we don't like them -- I love mine, she loves hers, I
love hers, she loves mine! :-) It just means that the circle on my sun is
not perfectly round, the stem on her rose is a little off-center of the
flower; minor things.

However, that's enough to probably make me not go back again should I
decide to get painted again. However, realize that our designs were from
flash, and we were pretty naive at the time. If you go in knowledgable, and
get a custom design, they might be inclined to do better work.

>Apparently they are fairly reasonable in their prices, and are
>very supportive and cooporative (unlike the experience I had
>when I got my tattoo done a few months ago).

That they were. My tat was $85, and hers $65. And they were quite nice and
helpful -- no complaints in that department.

>I'm looking for a new place for my next tattoo in the New England area....
>so, I heard about this place and am intrigued............
>
>:)--Jen

It's worth checking out, and they certainly may have improved since I went
there. The other thing is that for me, the fact that my tat isn't quite
perfect isn't a big deal (in fact, I honestly don't care at all), but a) I
wouldn't want the next one to be imperfect, and b) some people migt not be
so accepting of small flaws.

Best of luck -- keep us informed! :-) --Erik

-- 
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              | 304 Vassar St., Cambridge MA 02139 | applies: this post is
ebail@ctp.com | (617) 374-8418                     | mine, not my employer's.
      /earth is 98% full; please remove any excess inhabitants.
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From: clements@bow.Princeton.EDU (John Brinckerhoff Clements)
Subject: Re: Ampallang
Organization: Power Pounders, Inc.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 18:14:09 GMT

In article <JET.92Nov17104954@boxer.nas.nasa.gov> jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>"93asw" == Andrew Wright <93asw@williams.edu> writes:
>
>93asw> an ampallang piercing.  The faq said healing time was 8 to 10
>93asw> weeks.  How long does this preclude intercourse?  The faq also
>
>Gauntlet says an average of 6 to 8 *MONTHS*.  I agree.  Intercourse
>was out of the question for 8 to 10 weeks, however...

	Healing time can be quite long--I've had mine for nearly
	eleven months and I'm still getting a few crusties.  HOWEVER,
	I was having sex less than two weeks after getting punched.
	On the other hand, I've already bent two ampallang bars....
>
>93asw> claims that such a piercing does not give problems when using a
>93asw> condom.  Can anyone confirm this, as that has me a little
>
>No problems with condoms.
	Ditto.
>
>93asw> worried.  Finally, does a pierce through the urethra leak?
>
>ampallangs usually don't go through the urethra.
	Ditto.

john clements
21, centerpiece: human salad bar
From: paulh@coos.dartmouth.edu (The Incubus)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: India Ink for black tattoos?
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:14:23 GMT
Organization: The Order of the Gash


In article <1992Nov18.174820.13230@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> paulh@coos.dartmouth.edu (The Incubus) writes:

>Did he/she have all ther other tools of a 
>sanity technician?
>
>-paul haban

Damn, that was supposed to read Sanitary technician...
that is what I get for posting while at work...
-paul
The.Incubus@dartmouth.edu
*sigh*
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From: 93asw@williams.edu (Andrew Wright)
Subject: Re: Ampallang
Organization: Williams College, Williamstown, MA
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:14:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.203217.29365@nevada.edu> clc@nevada.edu (Chris L. Cobb) writes:
>93asw@williams.edu (Andrew Wright) writes:
>
stuff deleted
>>I'm going down to NYC this weekend and was thinking about getting one
>>while I was there.
>
>Well, how did it go?
>
Hi,

I'm afraid that I didn't end up going to NYC after all.  I was
supposed to go help an ex-girlfriend videotape a transvestite ball for
her dance class, but the college wouldn't give us a van (the sports
teams had them all).  If I get down there anytime soon, I'll post the
results.

Actually, after recieving several e-mails about eccessively long
healing times, I've pretty much decided not to get an ampallang.
The possibility still remains of other piercings, however ... :-)
I've also finally decided on a design/place for my first tattoo.  A
black double helix with (hopefully) some fine line work connecting the
two strands.  The helix will be unwinding slightly at the top.  The
placement will be on the line between my  left hipbone and center of my
foot, about three inches from the hipbone and about three inches long.
(I hope that some people out there understand the joke, but it also
has a fair amount of personal meaning and I think it will end up being
a nice graphic as well, so I'm killing three birds with one stone).  
	I have the design pretty well visualized, but I have no
drawing skill. If I get somewhere with a decent artist, I'm going to 
try to work  with him/her to get a satisfactory design 
(any suggestions for Louisville, KY? I'll be there for thanksgiving
and christmas)
	I've also seen a design I really like for a (possible) second
tattoo.  It's the logo for a rock climbing equipment company, but it
basically consists of a black archeopteryx fossil skeleton.  (As you
might be able to tell, I'm a bio major).

Andrew

>---
>Chris L. Cobb -- clc@nevada.edu -- B0 f t+ w c+ g k+ s++ p
>This signature is not Politically Correct, just differently worded!
>


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From: glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson)
Subject: Re: Piercing in NJ
Originator: glp@merlin
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:06:52 GMT


In article <1992Nov11.172044.12002@Princeton.EDU>, ernesto@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Teodoro E. Gelabert) writes:
|> Hi, I just found this group and have found it to be very informative.
|> While I am deciding on a design for a tat I was wondering if anyone knew
|> of good tat artists and nipple piercers in the central Jersey area?  Do
|> I need to go to Philly or NYC to find a good professional?

For the piercing I'd go to The Gauntlet in NYC.

For the tattoo, I and several friends have had work
done by Ernie White at Tattoo Factory in Butler, NJ.
You might want to stop by and check out his work.

-- 
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Citibank,111 Wall Street        E-Mail: glp@fig.citib.com
New York, New York  10043
The opinions expressed are my own and not those of the big 'ol bank.
From: mikey@ece.arizona.edu (Michael Gribbons)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: branding and scarring
Date: 19 Nov 92 10:41:13 GMT
Reply-To: mikey@ece.arizona.edu (Michael Gribbons)
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering


there was a lot of talk awhile back looking for the proper way to do a
brand. treatment, care, preperation, etc... was there any final pulled
together conclusions on that string.  reason i want to know is that i
am planning on having a brand placed on my right shoulder blade. one of
the main concerns i have is the resolution of the image that will be
branded in. anybody have some experience to give me some idea. we are
planning on possibly making a brand out of some watch cogs to make a 
larger design of interlocked cogs, but if you can't resolve the individual
cogs, it seems pretty pointless.

i just read the second part of the tat faq wherein the author makes many
references to experiences of self-mutilation in discussing scarification.
self-mutilation should be seperated in every bodies mind from ritual
scarification. there is an excellent book titled 'bodies under siege'
by Favazza (i think that is correct, its been awhile) which discusses
ritual scarification and self-mutilation and there relation and anti-relation
in a variety of contexts. Favazza is what I interpret as the most prominent
authority on self-mutilation practices.  I was following the literature on
self-mutilation a couple years ago and an interesting thing was that there
was talk of making self-mutilation a personality disorder in DSM-IV, whenever
it came out. does anyone know if DSM-IV came out and if self-mutilation
is now included?

also as stated in the tat faq, keloid does not build up on whitebread, me
being whitebread, i can speak from experience. i have a geometrical scar
placed on my left shoulder blade. it looks pretty good, but not as good 
as i would like, all due to the fact that there is no keloid build up.
in all, i believe the pattern was cut in 8 or 9 times to get it to 
its present state. my friend who does these wonderful things to me
(and takes extreme pleasure in it) talked to an aunt of his who said
she gets better results in scarring when some citrus juice is rubbed into
the wound and said that pineapple juice seems to get the best results.

strange places,
mike
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From: ecavanagh@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Re: Tattooers kit
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:42:53 GMT


iiIn article <1elt3kINNc39@pith.uoregon.edu>, christ@cie.uoregon.edu (Christian G. Smith) writes:
> Morten Amundsen (mortena@ifi.uio.no) wrote:
> : 
> : Does somebody know if there exists a tattooers kit to buy with all
> : the things needed to get started?
> :
>  
>   If you pick up any tat-mag, you should be innundated with adverts for
> do-it-yourself starter kits.  I've been perusing Skin Art lately and count
> at least 10 ads in there.
>   Here's an example of what it might cost and what you get in one of these:
>  
>   2 professional double coil tattoo machines
>   Both liner and shader
>   Needles and stainless steel tubes
>   Variable 1 Amp DS poer supply
>   Footswitch
>   Clipboard
>   7-2oz pre mixed colors
>   8 colored design sheets
>   extra needles
>   stencils
>   spray bottles
>   ink caps
>   pencils
>   & "everything you need to start tattooing, instructions included!"
>  
>   Price: $339
>  
>   Hope I helped,
>  
> -christian
>
> I am ever so impressed with you for using the word "perusing."  Honest abe.

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From: mortena@ifi.uio.no (Morten Amundsen)
Subject: Tattooers kit 
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 14:26:38 GMT
Originator: mortena@yrsa.ifi.uio.no


Does somebody know if there exists a tattooers kit to buy with all
the things needed to get started?

-- 
Morten Amundsen  |  mortena@ifi.uio.no  |  "Ja til EF"
University Of Oslo, Institute Of Informatics
"Some Play Hard To Get, I Play Hard To Want"
From: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: should niobium rings fade?
Date: 16 Nov 1992 22:45:07 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center and Reptile Farm
NNTP-Posting-Host: grissom.larc.nasa.gov

In article <Mf1yxK200VpgA3zW8G@andrew.cmu.edu> "Alan S. Ferrency" <af1x+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>"Alan S. Ferrency" <af1x+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>>I colored my own rings, so I have a little bit of experience (although
>>>not much) with how the colors go through.
>>
>>Please describe the coloring process.  I have a fading
>>magenta niobium ring that I'd like to re-colorize.
>
>Well... here's what I did...
>I made myself a power supply because I didn't happen to have one here. 
>The one I made isn't very good quality, but it does work.  It goes from
>maybe 0 to 80 or 90 vdc (totally unrectified).

Well.. umm... you're going to have to explain a bit.  First of all, what
do you mean by "totally unrectified?"  Is it DC, or isn't it?  I would
expect that you'd want to use DC if you are depositing material, but I
am not positive this is what's happening in the process.

In addition, what kind of currents are we talking about for an item
with a small surface area (like a pin)?  The voltage really isn't important
as long as it's over a certain point, but the current is going to be 
proportional to the amount of metal moved around.
--scott
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Tattoo in Waterloo, ONT
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:27:05 GMT
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <BxzqM6.5AA@mach1.wlu.ca> jcarr4@mach1.wlu.ca (judy carr 9207 U) writes:
>...and all of my friends are amazed at the fine detail and how
>bright the colours are!  (Aren't these the things that make a tattoo
>'good'?)

Having all of your friends be amazed is what makes a tattoo good.

Congrats.  You have two now?  You're doomed.

I *still* think someone needs to start a tattoo gif server for those of us
who don't get the alt.binaries.pictures.* groups.  It's really frustrating
reading everyone's descriptions of their tattoos and not being able to
actually see 'em.

>AND they accept Visa and Mastercard.

Danger, Will Robinson!  Danger!

-- 
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From: bcorkum@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: <None>
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:33:01 GMT

I have had my nose pierced for almost three weeks now and I just found out some
info that concerns the healing process of my nose.  I read in two different
sources that when you pierce your nose you should make a larger hole than
the stud you plan to wear.  This enables the skin to heal around the
cartiledge.

I just put a smaller stud in my nose last night. [The the stud I pierced with
was quite thick and that's what I've been wearing]  Will the skin still heal
around my cartilage even thought I just put in a smaller stud last night.  
The hole has been healing wonderfully, thanx everyone for their cleaning tips.
I just ended up using soap and water.

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