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From: lindq@etek.chalmers.se (Johan Lindqvist)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Birch society says foreign aid costs americans jobs
Date: 14 Apr 92 10:13:33 GMT
Reply-To: lindq@etek.chalmers.se (Johan Lindqvist)
Distribution: alt
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg, SWEDEN


 In a previous article, hcollings@vax1.umkc.edu () says:
 
>In article <1992Mar19.122615.14632@etek.chalmers.se>, lindq@etek.chalmers.se (Johan Lindqvist) writes:
>> In article <yi7sHB1w164w@cellar.org>, techie@cellar.org (William A Bacon) writes:
>> |> 
>> |>    FOREIGN AID ISN'T HUMANITARIAN AND DOES COST AMERICANS JOBS
>> |>    "Foreign aid has been permitted by the American people because it has a 
>> |> humanitarian ring to it. But nothingcould be further from the truth. there is 
>> |> nothing humanitarian about taking funds from working americans to give to 
>> |> crrupt and frequently ant-american governments."
>> 
>> STOP IT. 'Nothing humanitary'???? 
>> Of course giving money to thirld world countries is humanitar.
>> So what you're saying is:
>> 'Let the niggers starve. They're not american.'
>
>It appears at least to me that you have not properly interpreted the statement
>here.  If the money actually reached the people who needed it for food and
>housing and clothing and education then this would be humanitarian aid indeed.
>However too many times the aid is used to buy weapons to keep the ruling regime
>in power whether the people wish it or not.

Well, since you didn't include whole my letter, I just want to point at some
other of the things therein, so I don't sound quite so fanatic.. 
The quote above is only to show some of the reasoning behind the wrong conclution
the original poster made. His main idea was that 'since some goverments in the
thirld world are corrupt we should stop all foregin aid'. But I mean that an
other reason, that just shows between the lines, are that "there is nothing
humanitarian" about the foreign aid in general.

My point was that if the goverments in these countries are corrupt, then let
the aid go through multi lateral help organisations, like the Red cross, or the Red moon (Is that right? Could be half moon?) instead.


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From: Steve.Rose@f134.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Rose)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Semite?
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 03:06:00 -0500

 >Actually shouldn't he be called Maynard 'the main moron'.

 KM> I saw a post recently from someone who traced the bbs phone numbers
 KM> back, and found them (it?) registered to a name in Portland that
 KM> rhymes with nerd.... I think it was Hurt or Hurd..... one can probably
 KM> assume, with some degree of safety, that "maynard" is one of several
 KM> alter egos conveniently adopted by this "hurt or hurd" idiot

His name and BBS numbers aren't so secret!  I simply called B-CPU over
month or so ago and established an account which I use once or twice a
week (under an alias of course).  I simply look around at all the false
pretense of his BBS (one of those Hudson based types) and see what files
and conference are cooking.  All very normal looking...this B-CPU and I
even uploaded a couple of times.  He never suspects who it is...or
doesn't really care.  He has the general level of sysop knowledge needed
to run a system... while floundering at using a network hookup.

Amazing this is the same BBS we all know, and hate.  But then
again...May-nerd is wise to put up the false front...hence he becomes
shunned in the local hobby BBS community for what he truly advocates.





... Every absurdity has a champion to defend it.
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From: jade.apisukh@f330.n363.z1.fidonet.org (jade apisukh)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: JFK - Stone getting flak...
Date: 13 Apr 92 01:58:00 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:363/330


 > Then how come in Zapruder there is a spray of blood and tissue going
 > forward out of the supposed entrance wound in the front of the head,
 > but not out of the supposed exit wound in the back of the head?
 > How come there wasn't a massive amount of blood and tissue all over
 > the trunk of the limo, or a bullet hole from the bullet that caused
 > the exit wound?

There was clearly blood and brains all over the trunk of the limo, that's why Jackie Kennedy was climbing onto the back, she was reaching for a piece of JFK's skull.  Ask the motorcycle officer riding to the back left of the limo who was covered with JFK's brains.  JFK was shot from the front.

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Subject: Re: Call Banished CPU for *REAL* Freedom of Speech!
From: kmcvay@oneb.wimsey.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 01:37:22 GMT
Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Vancouver Island

In article <gate.yNmZiB1w164w@b-cpu.UUCP> maynard@b-cpu.UUCP (Maynard "the Main Nerd") writes typical nazi trash....

THANKS, trash! I'd forgotten the "Maynard" aka when I toasted your
alter egos with multiple KILL files, and now, thanks to this typically
worthless drivel you've posted, I can avoid the tedious task of seeing
your nazi trash anywhere but alt.activism.....

I've used  /maynard@b-cpu/a:j for the KILL file - I trust it will do.

>      _Computer Bits_ magazine (of Portland, Oregon) PURPOSEFULLY
> CENSORED Banished CPU from their BBS list (as they finally admitted on

Congratulations to _Computer Bits_ for their inciteful and decisive
action in dealing with the promotion of racial hatred! 

>      Fight censorship and fascism!  Call Banished CPU, and tell other
> Freedom-loving people that *Banished CPU supports Freedom of Speech*,
> and give them our phone numbers!

I'd rather give them your name, asshole.. would you care to publish it
here, along with your telephone number and address, and the name of
the folks offering the "$50,000 Reward?"

(Has anyone out there got a City Directory for the Portland area? Does
it list the B-PU phone numbers in the reverse directory?)

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From: bzs@ussr.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: Two Questions...Holocost and FED.
Organization: The World
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 22:13:10 GMT


From: acsormd@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Randall Desmond)
>	1. What quotes can you supply that the B-CPU people have made
>	   racist/nazi comments?

Here you go...

From ralphw@b-cpu.PDX.COM Fri Sep  6 19:43:29 1991
>>1. did the Nazis design and implement a systematic plan to kill
>>   off European Jews during WWII? (and gypsies and homosexuals)
> 
>     No.  There was no systematic plan.  Only the natural results and
>horrors of war (quite undesirable, to be sure!)  There is no evidence
>of any systematic plan within the Nazi party to do such a thing.

For this next one you have to notice that his use of the term Zionist
simply means "Jew" and there's nothing relevant to Zionism (a
nationalist movement to form the state of Israel) in any of their
vicious babblings:

From ralphw@b-cpu.PDX.COM Mon Sep  9 19:46:51 1991
Subject: EMERGENCY!  ZIONIST CENSORSHIP!  Here!  Now!  Read this, seriously!!
>     Just as I have predicted, the Zionist thought police are cracking
>down on USENET like Hollywood-style Nazis in order to censor what users
>read; in order to KEEP YOU FROM READING **THIS** and other things which
>I or anyone else may have to say about the "Holocaust" lies or the
>not-so-pretty-truths about the Zionists or anything else that the
>Zionists do not want to be heard, even so much in whispers, let alone
>by any number of people that could possible pose a threat to their
>"little schemes."  That's the FATAL WEAKNESS and MOST REVEALING TRAIT
>of the Zionists: they pursue CENSORSHIP INSTEAD OF DEBATING!  WHY, you
>ask?  The truth does not exactly serve their purposes (or make them
>look very good), you might say.  In other words, they have a LOT to
>hide.  Their very behavior is proof of this.  OBSERVE FOR YOURSELVES.

Another favorite in a similar vein...

From pfaust@b-cpu.UUCP Thu Feb  6 18:09:40 1992
>The Zionist HOUSE OF HOAXES is crumbling.  Many, many innocent Jews
>will be crushed by the betrayal.

From gmartin@b-cpu.UUCP Wed Feb 12 19:35:46 1992
>>1) do they believe that the nazis had a plan (public policy or private)
>> to exterminate the jews?
> 
>Mentioned many times before, NO.

This one reeks of a certain sickness like something one finds in the
back of their refrigerator...

From gmartin@b-cpu.UUCP Wed Feb 12 19:35:46 1992
>Low count, no Jews, no problem.  Few
>hundred thousand non-Jews killed, no problem.  One Jew killed, big
>problem.  Six million killed, big exageration (makes great press
>though.) Every now and then the media even mentions that non-Jews died
>during the war.  Real big of them to mention that occasionaly.

(You *do* remember how the media has carefully suppressed the fact
that any non-jews died in world war II don't you? No? Hmm...)


Well, I could go on...

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Subject: Re: Quosue tandem, Ralphius Vinstonius, abutere patientia nostra?
From: kmcvay@oneb.wimsey.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 04:58:56 GMT
Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Vancouver Island
Keywords: fascist lying slimeball

In article <1992Apr7.065345.17222@nntp.hut.fi> c34657b@saha.hut.fi (Tuomas Viljanen) writes:

>fascist, lying hate writings. Or else he is just another fascist slimeball.

You've got it .. just pathetic, mentally bereft nazi trash. (It's
probably about time for him/her/it to invent another alter ego, given
the beating the triad's been taking of late... the way its mind works
- well, 'works' is the wrong word - another name can begin 'fresh' and
send us all the 'facts' again....

sigh...

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Subject: Re: B-CPU Mail Path
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 17:35:36 GMT
Organization: Z*NET International News Gateway in Auckland New Zealand

dild@exmus.fabersham.com (Jonny Handsome) writes:

> >So, if you want to bounce Ralphie's articles back at him (not that I recomme
> >won't work.  Instead, mail the words of wisdom to:
> 
> 'Twould be naughty to send him unsolicited 'opinions'.
> 
> >       agora.rain.com!b-cpu!ralphw        or
> >       b-cpu!ralphw@agora.rain.com        or
> >       b-cpu!maynard@agora.rain.com
> 
> But...but...
> 
>         % ping agora.rain.com
>         ping: unknown host agora.rain.com
> 
> Ralpharella, what is your internet number? You didn't pluck your name
> out of the server did you???
> *************

  agora.rain.com!b-cup!root <- the sysop works well
 
 Simply use a BANG address from agora.rain.com!b-cpu!USERNAME and
 it works fine for me here down-under!
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Subject: Re: THE HOLOCAUST STORY:  HOW MUCH IS FALSE?  The Case for Open Deba
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 07:05:52 GMT
Organization: Z*NET International News Gateway in Auckland New Zealand

asbestos@nwu.edu (Michael A. Atkinson) writes:

> 
> (Crap deleted.)
> 
> I have a few things to say.
> 
> * The Daily Northwestern ran the "article" in question as a paid
> advertisement.  
> 
 Strange they have to pay to SAY!  Maybe it is not news after all and
 simply one mans dribble. 
 
 On another note. If you all read the postings from Winston  you will
 see his messages have a message i/d of <gate.deleted> .
 
 This is infact the WAFFLE BBS RNEWS program.
 
 It means that WInstone at B-CPU has the following 
 
 1/ Shell access to ms-dos  either localy or remotely
 2/ As he has shell access he has LEVEL 9 access  -> SYSOP
 3/ The command for RNEWS under waffle is rnews news.group <file
 4/ Think about this chaps.
 
 This leads to another thought. If he does have shell access he can
 simply go into /waffle/system/sig and change it to what he wants or
 better still he can go into /user/winstone/sig and change that to 
 over ride his SIG.
 
 SO the arguement that he can not change it as his SYSOP has set it
 is nothing more than a plain old LIE.   I will post the WAFFLE
 DOC on the changing of the SIG command if you all like to post it
 or maybe I should post how you via EMAIL can do this this for him (grin).
 
 Food for thought, no it is an advert brought from lack of thought. FRED

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From: dlu@wobble.uucp (Doug Urner)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.discrimination,soc.history,alt.activism
Subject: Re: Want facts? "WHO RUNS THE MEDIA? The Alarming Fats"
Date: 13 Apr 92 01:22:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: wobble.1992Apr13.012206.21657
Organization: dlu UNIX Consultants

case@diku.dk (Steven Kj{r Snedker) writes:

>PS: It's now 12 o'clock and the flags are being lowered around Copenhagen. 
>52 years ago the Nazis invaded Denmark.

If nothing else "Ralph" and "Pete" and their ilk help us to remember
how easy it is to forget.  Perhaps this would be appropriate time to
remember the names of some of the Danes who performed a near miracle
in the last months of 1943.  The list will be way to short.  I
apologize in advance.

	Ellen Nielsen
	Hans Hedtoft
	H. C. Hansen
	Rabbi Dr. Marcus Melchior
	Niels Bohr
	Dr. Aage Bertelsen
	Gerda Bertelsen
	Berge Aaudze
	Peter Freuchen
	Pastor Paul Boxenius
	Per Moeller
	Viggo J. Rasmussen
	Fogelsang-Dagmar, Bishop of Copenhagen
	Paster Gildeby
	Bishop Flums

Or perhaps a few Germans that "Pete Faust" didn't deem fit to include
in his list:

	Count Helmuth von Moltke
	Captain Georg Ferdinand von Duckwitz

I heard a quote attributed to a Dane trying to explain the risks he or
she took in helping Jews escape from the Nazis, it goes roughly "The
Nazis offered us a choice between our souls and our lives."  The folks
at b-cpu remind us that the choice is still being offered.
	
If the reference to the events of 1943 aren't obvious I recommend Fred
Small's song "Denmark, 1943" as a short introduction.
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Subject: read 2231
From: agoldberg@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 12 Apr 92 03:46:22 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

I can't believe this sort of heinosity exists on the Vax.  Whoever writes this
board in support of revisionist history is an unmitigated ass.  Bigotry is
evil.
From: techie@cellar.org (William A Bacon)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: inslaw/promis coverup
Date: 14 Apr 92 00:42:18 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system


   Has anyone got some recent information on the apparent "suicide" of 
investiagative reporter Danny Cassolro whose body was discovered on August 
10,1991 in Matinsburg West Viginia. I understand he was working on a book 
tentively titled the "Octopus" which was to connect several boiling 
conspiracy stories such as the "October surprise", Iran contra and the 
relationship between organized crime and the intelligence "community". The 
Promis is a software package which couldtrack Justice dept case load better. 
Anyone have any new stuff, references to recent magazine articles books 
what-not?

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From: rr20+@andrew.cmu.edu (Richard W. Rees)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: "Deep Throat", who was he?
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:17:03 GMT
	<1992Apr6.133930.9980@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: Doctoral student, English, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


   Has anyone read Silent Coup?  I have only read reviews so far, and
saw one of the authors interviewed on a CNBC talk show, but it sounds
like the source to look at for the latest, if not last, word on
Watergate.  It just came out last year and caused quite a reaction from
the establishment press, like the New York Times and especially the
Washington Post, because Woodward is a bigshot there now.

   Word is that Deep Throat was probably Alexander Haig.

   More interesting I think, however, is that Woodward's story, a la All
the President's Men, was really part of a deeper conspiracy in which
Woodward (then unknown reporter) was involved because of his little
known history as a National Security Council insider, which is how he
got to know Haig so well.  Haig was a double agent, so to speak, working
closely with Kissinger, but also a spy collecting information for a
Pentagon-run spy ring.  The ultimate goal of Watergate and the cover-up,
according to this version, was to get rid of Nixon, and especially
Kissinger, for back channel maneuvers they were working on to end
American involvememnt in Viet Nam.  According to Silent Coup:the Removal
of a President, Dean ordered the break-in, not Mitchell, and it wasn't
to get damaging evidence on the democrats, but to retrieve information
linking Dean's girlfriend to a DC call-girl service.  He then suckered
Nixon and Michell to go along with the cover-up--which became the
opportunity for the Pentagon.  Nixon was the patsy . . .

    I'm not sure I believe all this but I'll read it and see. The book
got praise (for thorough documentation) from media sources that I find
reliable and that didn't have a stake in refuting the story out of hand.
 Attacks and denials by one of the sources were refuted as well.  See
reviews by Doug Ireland in the Village Voice and another one in the
Nation sometime last summer.    
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From: in.your.dreams.bucko (Ann Landers)
Subject: Re: Christic Vows to keep fantisizing, etc.
Organization: Wayne State University
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 11:45:14 GMT

In article <rich.702852876@pencil>
rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu (Rich Winkel) writes:
 
>Hull is the CENTRAL FIGURE in the CI case!
>You apparently don't care enough about the subject to know much about it.
>Yet you waste bandwidth over it... why bother?
>
>Rich
Hull....exactly what high government post did he hold? Wasn't he
the president, or head of the CIA, or something?
 
Get a life.
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From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Silence of the Lambs
Keywords: fraud hoax fix deceit unfair
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 18:46:09 GMT

bfrg9732@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Brian F. Redman) writes:
>In the process of watching "The Silence of the Lambs."
>Preliminarily, how oh how could they give this movie Best Picture
>over Stone's JFK? Stone's movie is epochal in that it dares to
>treat its audience as adults by asking thought-provoking
>questions. Especially, it has an Edward R. Murrow breakthrough
>quality. The Truth crushed into the earth rises again.

Possibly they figured a well done psychodrama might be a bit harder to
make than a half-truthful dramatization?  JFK treats its audience like
idiots by lying to them and expecting them to take it as truth.
-- 
There's only one way to have a happy marriage, and as soon as I learn what it
is I'll get married again. -- Clint Eastwood
From: djk@Nitro.CtEdge.COM
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: read 2231
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 16:55:24 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: NMS&Systems Engineering

agoldberg@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:

> I can't believe this sort of heinosity exists on the Vax.  Whoever writes thi
> board in support of revisionist history is an unmitigated ass.  Bigotry is
> evil.


Sure is....  And it matters not who the bigot is - or who they
are being bigotted about.

-djk

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From: MEDELMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu (Michael Edelman)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: ging of the American Presidency" -- the U-2 debacle
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:05:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: cms.167C1B835.MEDELMA
Organization: Wayne State University

Ever notice how much nonsense needs to be constructed to build a conspiracy
when the facts are always so brief?
 
1. Why was the craft shot down? Well, according to the designer, the U2
was built as a temporary stop-gap while a more sophisticated craft
was developed (i.e., what became the A-12 and eventually the SR-72). It
was expected to have an "invulnerable" life of about a year before Soviet
missiles could reach it. It was probably disabled by a near burst.
It's been alleged that a number of Soviet craft chasing Powers were downed
in the barrage of missile fire.
 
2. Why were the flights made at such a critical time? The flight was already
scheduled as part of a routine series of such flights. The question is not
why it was scheduled, but whu it wasn't cancelled. Simple answer: Someone
wasn't thinking.
 
       --mike
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