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From: Patrick=Smoker%Admin%Ag@ADMIN.AGAD.PURDUE.EDU
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Subject: re: VINES & MAC : rejected printjobs
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:35:09 GMT
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>I read reactions on my article about mac printservices. Thank you for
>that. After that, I connected a PAP printer (apple laserwriter iig)
>directly to the thin ethernet coax using an appletalk tranceiver. I
>changed the destination of the printservice to PAP printer LaserWriter
>iig. Printing from PC workstations is working fine (postscript). The
>printservice also appears in the chooser of the macintosh. If I print
>something to the printservice, the job appears in the print queue of our
>vines server. But, after a 2 or 3 minutes, the job will be rejected (at
>the server). The banner gives the  Error
>messager:timeout;OffendingCommand:timeout".
>The second problem is, that the original PAP printer is also in the
>chooser. In the configuration, I removed the orginal printer from the
>chooser.
>Does anyone know how to solve the problem ? Thanks

The error message your experiencing may be due to the fact that VINES PAP
printer services will not accept print jobs that originate from machines
that are running the System 7 TUNER.  I don't know what Banyan has done,
or will do about the problems.  Our VINES pap ques are currently
use by Windows users because of this problem.  Our MACs are accessing
printers on local AppleTalk nets.

Pat
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 08:33:15 PDT
From:         MA=Crist%Info_Sys%STG_IS@DSO3.DSD.TRW.COM
Subject: Re: VINES & MAC : rejected printjobs

You need the 7.1.1 Laserwriter driver.  That fixed my SE/30 even while running
System 6.0.7.  I've recently upgraded to System 7.01.

Mike Crist
TRW
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:01:23 EST
From:         Shawn Farrell <INSF@MCGILLB.BITNET>
Subject:      Microsoft Mail and Banyan

I'm initerested in finding out any information on the interoperability
of Microsoft Mail and Vines.  My questions, in particular, are can
Microsoft Mail be used on A banyan network and od gateways exist so that
I can send mail to other Microsoft Mail users on other systems.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Shawn Farrell
Merck Frosst

insf@musicb.mcgill.ca
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 11:19:37 PDT
From:         MA=Crist%Info_Sys%STG_IS@DSO3.DSD.TRW.COM
Subject: Re: Hackable ???

Josef,

I would have to disagree.  You would have to replay from the same workstation.
Assuming you could gain access to it (the owner was away getting a cup of
coffee, etc.), by the time you sent your captured/tweaked packets, the nonce
would be invalid.

Mike Crist
TRW
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:34:53 -0600
From:         STRASHEA@ZENO.MSC.COLORADO.EDU
Subject:      Re: PCPRINT and Windows

I think the best choice is not to use LPT1 as the primary port in the
windows control panel and assure that the user who is logged in has the
rights to print to lpt2 (which may be the very same printer on lpt1) to avoid
the win/pcprint conflict.  I've found this works out quite nicely.
From: Robert=H.=Whelan%CIS%DFCI@RHYS.DFCI.HARVARD.EDU
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Subject: Vines 5.05 (System 10)
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:51:10 GMT
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To all you that have helped before or would like to help, please read on.

We have a mission critical application written in Clipper.  It has tens of
thousands of files on a V4.11(5) server.  It is quickly running out of inodes.
There are about 2000 left.  We decided to upgrade to the new file structure,
Vines 5.00(5) System 10, to utilize the 2 billion available inodes.

We are attempting to restore a backup from the CNS running V4.11(5) to and
Intel 403 running 5.00(5) and having lots of problems.  The first problem
is related just restoring the file service.  We have a 50% success rate - as
you can imagine, this is not a reliable rate to base a mission critical
system.  The second problem is related to ARL's.  Once the file system is
restored, which takes 2-4 hours, the ARL's need to be reset so the users
can test the application before we move over.  The success rate is 75%.

We have calls into the Banyan response center and "it's in engineering".
Unfortunately, I cannot afford to wait until it gets out of engineering.  I am
looking at trying another option, which is running 4.11(5) on a different
server, move the application from the CNS to the new server, and formatting
the CNS for Vines 5.0 S10.  I'm not sure this buys us anything, but it gives me
something to do while I wait for the resolution to get out of engineering.

Can anyone offer their advice or experience in upgrading to Vines 5 with the
new file structure?  Either platforms or maybe just a guess from left field.

Thanks!!

***********************************
Bob Whelan
Dana-Farber Cancer Institute
Boston, MA
Addr: whelan@farber.harvard.edu
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 01:48:01 PST
From:         "Patrick N Williams" <Patrick_N_Williams@CCM.HF.INTEL.COM>
Subject:      Re[2]: Powersave

All,
        I am looking into doing multiple Server backups onto 1 tape
drive. I've heard that Powersave can do this, but it does not restore
the passwords. Is this true ?
If so, does anyone know of any other software that can do this task
and do a proper full system restore should it be required ?

        Patrick N Williams

           Patrick_N_Williams@ccm.hf.intel.com
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:27:38 MST
From:         Carl=Waterman%ESRI%ESPE@ESPE1.LA.ASU.EDU
Subject:      Hardware upgrade advice

Current Configuration:

	OS:	Vines 4.00(2)
	CPU: 	Dell 310 20MHZ 386
	disk1:  Micropolis 330MB ESDI
        disk2:  Micropolis 330MB ESDI
        disk3:  Maxtor 340MB SCSI (ID = 0)
        disk4:  Fujitsu 425MB External SCSI (ID = 1)
        disk5:  Seagate 1600MB External SCSI (ID = 2)

Proposed Configuration
	OS:	Vines 4.11(5)
	CPU:	Insight 33MHZ 486
        disk1:  Maxtor 340MB SCSI (ID = 0, disk3 from above)
	disk2:	Fujitsu 425MB External SCSI (ID = 1, disk4 from above)
        disk3:  Seagate 1600MB External SCSI (ID = 2, disk5 from above)

disk2, disk3, disk4, disk5 only contain files services. I have service backups
of these.

disk1 has vines, smtp, mail, and a print service (I know this looks stupid,
but we just recently got all the SCSI drives, and then I decided to upgrade
our CPU. After everything is done I am going to redistribute things so that
disk1 just contains vines files and the other services are evenly distributed
amongst the drives)

To save time, would the following scenario be reasonable?

	(1) 	Remove disk2, disk3, disk4, disk5 from old system
        (2) 	Do a complete backup of old system to preserve contents of
		disk1
	(3)	Fresh install vines 4.00 on new server containing only disk1
	(4)	Load complete system backup from tape to restore disk1.
	(5)	Slap on former disk4 and disk5. Questions: will file systems
		remain intact? will disks be called disk2 and disk3, or disk4
		and disk5 as before? if they remain disk4 and disk5, what
		happens if I install a new drive in the future at SCSI
		ID 3 or higher? Does the new drive become drive2 or drive6?
	(6)	Create file services that lived on original disk2 on various
		locations on the new disk. Restore from file services from
		service backups of old drive2
	(7)	Perform the upgrade from 4.00 to 4.11. Or is it possible to
		fresh install 4.11 in step (3) and then do the restore from 			the version
 4.00(2) system backup?

Any comments on the above would be appreciated

-Carl Waterman
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 06:18:19 EDT
From:         R=Stoll%SysAdmin%7CG@LGGATE2.HQ.AF.MIL
Subject:      re: Hackable ???

I'd like to say that VINES isn't hackable, but any security system that's
designed by one person can be spoofed by another person.

VINES however should be significantly more difficult since the Vines
Security Service (VANGuard for all you older VINES users)  authenticates
*everything* that requests access on the server.  VS even logs into
itself.  If there was a hack for VINES, I think that it would have to be
an inside job at Banyan.  BTW I have seen that N***L cracker program.  It
works quite well.  So much for C2 in '92!


SSgt Robert Stoll
7th Communications Group
The Pentagon

rstoll@lggate2.hq.af.mil
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 09:54:09 CDT
From:         Orlando=Ginn%MIS%Regents@ALPHA.OSRHE.UOKNOR.EDU
Subject: re:TCP/IP & Windows

There is also another product called Chameleon that will work with Banyan.  It
has alot of other neat features (NFS(client/server), ftp, mail, ping tftp, and
slip support).

You can contact them at:
	Netmanage, Inc.
	20823 Stevens Creek Blvd.
	Suite 100
	Cupertino, CA 90514
	Tele.:	408/973-7171
	Fax.:	405/257-6405
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:42:38 EDT
From:         gary newcomb <76030.517@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Powersave

To all,
   Does anyone use Performance Technology's Powersave backup software ? If
so what tape units are you using with it ? I would like to use this software
but I'm not sure if we want their tape unit or another one.

                 Thanks, Gary
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Date:         Fri, 25 Sep 1992 11:14:06 EDT
From:         Shawn Farrell <INSF@MCGILLB.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: AUTOMATIC LOGOUT

We use Saber menu here and every user has it automatically loaded
when they log into the network.  Once in the menu we don't let them
get to the DOS prompt until they logout.  Of course they can get to the
DOS prompt via most applications, using the OS shell capability, but
they are ways to habdle this as well.  Our main concern is that they
don't start running Vines commands that we don't want them to.  THis is
solved by creating a subdirectory on the Z drive.  Easy to do with
networks that have a small number of servers.

The Saber menus have a program called Secure, which is basically a
keyboard lock after a specified period of inactivity.  This is most
satisfactory for us instead of logging users out.

Shawn Farrell
Merck Frosst

insf@musicb.mcgill.ca
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 06:45:11 EDT
From:         APPLICATIONS=PROGRAMMER=6%WAR=FIGHTING%MCCDPA=QUANTICO
              @MQG-SMTP1.USMC.MIL
Subject:      re: PCPRINT under version 4.11(5)

Do you have a PAUSE statement after the PCPRINT?  On faster PC's and/or slower
printers it takes longer to initialize.  We had similar problems and added the
PAUSE just to see if any error messages were listed and it solved the PC
lockup so we started putting it in all the time.

GySgt Keith McDonald
Technical Services
CDPD, MCCTA Quantico, VA
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 05:36:57 EDT
From:         R=Stoll%SysAdmin%7CG@LGGATE2.HQ.AF.MIL
Subject:      re: Microsoft Mail and Banyan

I understand that Microsoft Mail 3.0 will support VINES and use the VINES
MTA as a transport agent.  I can't confirm this, so you might want to
call Microsoft directly.



SSgt Robert Stoll
7th Communications Group
The Pentagon

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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:03:50 +0100
From:         Hendrik.Klompmaker@BEHEER.ZOD.WAU.NL
Subject:      Verifying fax number Netmanage Inc.

Hi,

Sorry to bother the list with this but I need to verify Netmanage's Fax number
that was posted to the list last week. It doesn't seem to be correct.
If you've got anything else the 405/257-6405 please let me know.

Greetings Hendrik,


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|******** Wageningen Agricultural University. Animal Production Group ********|
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Hendrik Klompmaker              Internet : Hendrik.Klompmaker@Beheer.Zod.Wau.Nl
System Manager                  Bitnet   : KLOMPMAKER@HWALHW50.BITNET
Phone : +31 (0)8370-83934       Fax      : +31 (0)8370-83962
Snail : Marijkeweg 40, 6709 PG  WAGENINGEN, The Netherlands
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 07:16:34 CDT
From:         JZeevi%users%swri03@D26VS046A.CCF.SWRI.EDU
Subject: Re: Hackable ???

---------------------------

Hi Jozef,

There are even easier ways to interrupt the session. Bring the network down,
by using a faulty netwerk card, not playing the rules! But this won't give you
entrance to the network.

Greetings
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Frank        University of Amsterdam/TDC    Email: frank@tdc.uva.nl
Koperdraat   Spui 21                        phone: +31-20-525 2260
             NL-1012 WX  AMSTERDAM          fax  : +31-20-525 2084
-----------------------------

Right. But follow this through : A user logs on, a sniffer captures all
packets to and from that user. Analysis is done on the packet stream and the
sniffer is given the smarts to change some of the things in the packet -
voila! The user logs in and the sniffer does the damage. I never meant to
indicate that this would be a way to log on  to VINES, merely a way (as the
original post indicated) to cause a LOT of damage.

josef
jzeevi@swri.edu
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 11:54:42 -0600
From:         STRASHEA@ZENO.MSC.COLORADO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Hackable ???

Robert could you send me this program?  I would like to be able to
prevent entry into our Novell servers in our labs... (Our administration
is running Banyan, so I feel somewhat at ease!)

IF we can disect how it does it, maybe we can prevent it!

Any more help appreciated.

thanks!

******************************************************************************
Andrew D. Strasheim                   Information Specialist
                                      Metropolitan State College of Denver
Internet: StrasheA@zeno.mscd.edu
Bitnet  : StrasheA@zeno
Voice   : 303-556-2441 USA
BBS     : 303-791-2592 USA
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:53:48 PDT
From:         Craig Armstrong <craiga@SPOCK.DIS.CCCD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Obtaining Ethernet Address programatically

>
> I have looked through the toolkit and I have not found a documented
> hook to obtain the Ethernet address of a client.  Is anyone aware
> of an easy way to accomplish this?  I do have a utility that will
> grab it, but I was asked if this is possible using the toolkit.
>
> Thanks,
> --
Steve, give me a hollar and I'll tell you how. You have to call Vanguard
to get it. Works on ALL supported NICS!

--

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*  Craig Armstrong - VINES hack...             craiga@spock.dis.cccd.edu   *
*  Coast Community College District            (714) 432-5066              *
*  District Information Services               Costa Mesa,  Ca  USA  92626 *
*                                                                          *
*  "If it doesn't matter if you win or lose, why do they keep score?"      *
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 09:16:11 -0300
From:         Rob Spellman <rob@MOTHER.BATES.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Powersave
              30 Sep 92 08:08:08 EDT." <9209301306.AA05228@mother.bates.edu>

I can confirm that Powersave doesn't backup email boxes.  I spoke with
them a few minutes about this at ABUI, and they said that Banyan
hasn't released the calls that they would need to do the backup.  They
have complained to Banyan about this, and are hoping to get the calls
from Banyan.

Rob Spellman
rob@mother.bates.edu
Computing Support Services
Bates College
Lewiston, Maine
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 06:26:43 CDT
From:         JZeevi%users%swri03@D26VS046A.CCF.SWRI.EDU
Subject:      re: Re[2]: Powersave

Patrick Williams :

	Powersave will restore ANYTHING on the network it can access, unless
you ask it not to. It will copy ALL files services, and ALL Streetalks it can
get to (Adminlist@.....) Also, it can back up individuals PC's on the
network. (They must run NETBIOS and a TSR)

	josef
	jzeevi@swri.edu
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:34:21 PDT
From:         "Robertj Jaquiss 627-4444 DS 50-454 (503)"
              <robertj@TEKGEN.BV.TEK.COM>
Subject: Telecom Analyst Position--Telecom Network Analyst (Portland
              Oregon)

                       Telecom Analyst Position               Date:10/2/92
                                    Telecom Network Analyst

Tektronix, a world leader in technological instrumentation, has an immediate
need for an experienced Telecom Network Analyst.  Responsibilities include
providing pcLAN support to Tektronix business units, testing new releases of
Banyan Vines and third party software, developing PC and server standards, and
providing guidance and leadership to other organizations involved in network
planning and engineering.

This position requires experience in network operating systems with emphasis in
Vines installation and maintenance, as well as Vines, TCP/IP, AppleTalk, and
EtherTalk protocols.  Candidates must have a thorough understanding of PC and
Mac hardware, configurations and networking requirements.  Experience with
large scale networks and knowledge of transmission and wiring protocols is also
required.  Successful candidates will have proven experience leading complex
projects in network planning and engineering. A strong customer and service
orientation is essential.  In addition, the ideal candidate will be a self
starter, with the desire to work as a team member and the ability to meet
commitments.  A minimum of 5 years of directly related experience is required.
Candidates should have a BS degree in Computer Science or a related discipline.
 A Masters degree is a plus.

Tektronix offers competitive salaries and excellent benefits.  For
consideration please send resumes and salary history to:

Tektronix, Inc.
P.O. Box 1000, M/S 63-814
Wilsonville, Oregon  97070-1000
Attention:  Y. Arellano,  Dept. NET1092

Tektronix is an equal opportunity employer, m/f/d.
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 10:55:58 CDT
From:         David=Blair%Staff%UIUC=CMC@BIGBIRD.WILL.UIUC.EDU
Subject:      Phone Call

Comments by:       David Blair@Staff@UIUC CMC
Forwarded to:      diann jabusch@computersrvcs@will
gw[John=Jabusch%ecd%USACERL@aardvark.cecer.army.mil]
gw[AEJ3%ItsPpd%CTS@cts27.cs.pge.com]
gw[susan=beebe%net%cvm@vetmed.cvm.uiuc.edu]
gw[BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU]
Comments:

It looks like 3Com will have a packet driver for its's 3C509 board
later this month according to the following message I got from
their 3Com 800 number.

David L. Blair


   -------------------------- [Original Message] -------------------------
	You had a phone call from Dawn at 3Com.  Her number is
	800-638-3266.  She said that the driver will be available
	in one month.
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 10:14:24 +1000
From:         "(Paul White)" <pdw@MELB.BULL.OZ.AU>
Subject: Re: wangdat tapestreamer

We have installed several 4.11(0) servers using the 1542B, SCSI disk and a DAT
- a Python 4520 drive from Archive.  There were no problems.  This also applied
for EISA servers using the 1740 controller.  We did use SCSI-1 though.

Paul White,
Bull HN, Melbourne
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Date:         Sat, 3 Oct 1992 09:05:54 MST
From:         "Patricia M. Schneider" <ICSPMS@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      BBS systems

From: Patricia M. Schneider


NetPro Computing currently has a DOS file based BBS system.  Randy
told me, however, that they are currently working on a client/server
based BBS that they are targeting 1st quarter of 1993 for shipping.

If you need to get a copy of their current BBS (NetForum), call
NetPro at (602) 998-5008 and ask for a demo disk.  They also
have a BBS which can be reached at (602) 998-5093.

Thanks....
______________________________________________________________________
Patricia M. Schneider            Bitnet   - ICSPMS@ASUACAD
Systems Programmer, Senior       Internet - ICSPMS@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU
Arizona State Unversity          Voice    - (602) 965-2826
Tempe, AZ  85287-0101
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:43:01 PDT
From:         C.=Hanley%IM%SPK@BANYAN.USACE.MIL
Subject:      re: Interoperability Advice Needed

There is a product from Logicraft called OMNIWARE that I believe will allow
Unix clients to access a CD-Rom server (like Meridian Data) on a Vines
network.  It will also allow remote asynchronous access to the cd-rom server
(I bet that's speedy!).  Here's the info I have on the company.  There is also
an integrator based in Sacramento that resells the product.

Logicraft               Reseller: Digital Info SYstems
22 Coton Road                     Aaron Howard
Nashua, NH 03086                  based in Sacramento, CA
(603) 595-7460                    (916) 638-1919

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Carolyn Hanley, U.S. Army Corps of Engrs.
916-557-7035, 916-557-7847 (fax)
chanley@usace.mil
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:54:20 EDT
From:         Sandy=OToole%COMPUTER%UMASS@BANYAN.UMMED.EDU
Subject:      re: Interoperability Advice Needed

We have 16 of the Logicraft Omniware servers here and they have proved to be
fast, reliable, and easily managed.  DOS services, including access to CDROMS
on a Meridian tower, are provided to MACs, vt220's, underconfigured pc's,
dial-ins,  etc.  Also, the performance on dialup to Banyan is very good.


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Reply To:       sotoole@umassmed.UMMED.EDU

                Sandy O'Toole, Network Administrator
                Computer Services
                University of Massachusetts Medical Center

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