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From: vandezande@inland.com
Newsgroups: chi.eats
Subject: Re: Ambrosia
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:39:49 CST
Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN

In article <ddrumm.0e4d@amiganet.chi.il.us>, ddrumm@amiganet.chi.il.us (Daniel Drumm) writes:
> My girlfriend and I are thinking about a anniversary dinner at Ambrosia on
> North Lincoln Park West (2300 N, I think). Any comments from the net. My
> girlfriend gets word of mouth at her workplace that it is good, and the mags
> give it high marks. What should we go for? The set 8 course meal or customize
> it?


	That would be Ambria, my friend, though you did get the address
right.  If you have very, very deep pockets and/or intend to spend your
life with this girl, then go for it.  Can't say I've been inside, but it
is considered one of Chicago's treasures.  Dinner there rates with the
Seurat @ the Art Institute or the Picasso in Daley Plaza; no kidding.
Attendance has fallen since two large dogs and an underpaid engineer have
taken to staring soulfully through the window, sighing longingly, and 
drooling plentifully.  Give 'em a break and toss them your scraps.

							Joe V.
From: ddrumm@amiganet.chi.il.us (Daniel Drumm)
Newsgroups: chi.eats
Subject: Ambrosia
Date: 9 Nov 92 06:56:49 GMT
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

My girlfriend and I are thinking about a anniversary dinner at Ambrosia on
North Lincoln Park West (2300 N, I think). Any comments from the net. My
girlfriend gets word of mouth at her workplace that it is good, and the mags
give it high marks. What should we go for? The set 8 course meal or customize
it?
Newsgroups: chi.eats,rec.food.restaurants
From: dlg1@quads.uchicago.edu (deborah lynn gillaspie)
Subject: Re: Italian food in Chicago
Reply-To: dlg1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:26:37 GMT

Dan,
Try some of the places on Taylor street, near UIC. Start at the intersection
of Taylor and Morgan, and go west. There's Tuscany, Trattoria Roma Terza,
Rosebud...Tuscany is pricy but the food is tremendous. Reservations are
definitely needed if you want to avoid a long wait. It's much easier to
get into some of the smaller places at dinnertime; that strip does a lot
of lunch business from UIC and even offices in the Loop. 

A memorable dish last winter at Tuscany was tortellini stuffed with wild
mushrooms...<ecstatic sigh>

Have fun! --Debbie




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Date: Thursday, 5 Nov 1992 10:36:22 CST
From: <U30644@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: chi.eats
Subject: Re: Mexican on 63rd
Distribution: chi

In article <Bx4245.HHt@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>, gistim@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tim Raebig)
says:
>
>Awhile back someone mentioned a good Mexican place on 63rd, west of
>Western.  I seem to have lost that article, so could someone please
>post the name of the place(s) of note?  Thanks,   Tim
>
I think the place you want is Los Delfines.  This place specializes in
Mexican seafood.  Excellent food, but the service can be pretty slow on
weekends from 3-5.  You will see the place filled with Mexican families
eating out.

2750 W. 63rd, Phone # 737-4900.

Buen Provecho (bon appetit)

Joel Sanchez
From: dwh@mgweed.ATT.Com (Hardekopf)
Newsgroups: chi.eats
Subject: Green Mill Good Food
Keywords: Good Food Cheap
Date: 10 Nov 92 11:03:30 GMT
Distribution: il
Organization: AT&T Montgomery Works, Montgomery, IL


     For you out of town people the Green Mill in Ottawa Il
has good food at a very resonable price. The mashed potatoes
are real and almost as good as the Strand Cafe in Lamont which
is a very interesting place that you have to see at least once
in a lifetime. So the next time you want to go for a ride check
them out. The Green Mill is by the court house in Ottawa on 23
north.


                          Doug Hardekopf
                          Montgomery Works
                          Montgomery Il.

                          VW's for ever..............
From: vleppert@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Valerie Leppert)
Newsgroups: chi.eats
Subject: Re: What's Zum Deutchen Eck, 2924 N. Southport?
Date: 5 Nov 92 04:14:38 GMT
Distribution: il
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <1992Nov4.084749.18284@cbnewse.cb.att.com> doctor1@cbnewse.cb.att.com (patrick.b.hailey) writes:
>Hi:
>
>I'm going to a dinner at this restaurant.  What the heck is it?  Is there
>going to be any food 'merkins like myself and my girlfriend are gonna
>recognize, let alone like?  Or should we fill up at Wendys or Taco Hell
>first?  ;-)
>
>  Thanks awfully,
>             Patrick
>
>p.s. Actually, Lynn is from Brazil, but this doesn't mean anything in
>Potuguese, either.
>


I don't think you want to call yourself that!  One definition of merkin is
a cannon swab, the other is ..., well, I can't say it here.  Suffice to say
it's a wig (not for your cranium, either).

Valerie
From: brewer@meltdown.chi.il.us (Mike Wilson)
Newsgroups: chi.eats
Subject: Re: Italian food in Chicago
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:05:34 GMT
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

There used to be a place in the UIC area call...well, I can't remember.  It
doesn't really matter much because it closed.  But that area is where the
Little Italy neighborhood used to be (and still is to some extent). You could
always try there.  There's bound to be something nice.

What WAS the name of that place?  Gawd it was wonderful, too.  It was on Taylor
just west of Morgan (across the alley from Papa Charlie'?).
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From: glass@devl.fnal.gov (Michael Glass)
Subject: Re: Deli in Chicago?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4  
Reply-To: glass@devl.fnal.gov
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory
Distribution:  chi
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 02:20:38 GMT

     Do any of you deli mavens have an opinion about Steins?

     (On Ogden in Lyons)

-- Michael Glass
From: akcs.plato@vpnet.chi.il.us (Daniel Lindahl)
Newsgroups: chi.eats
Subject: Mexican on 63rd
Date: 9 Nov 92 00:55:03 CST

Archer.  El Farol and El Famous.  Check them out if you
don't mind grease.  Good food.  Big burritos.

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From: tsui@ils.nwu.edu
Subject: Re: Bob Chinn's.  AAAARGH!
Organization: Institute for the Learning Sciences
Distribution: chi
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:29:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.204924.8095@serveme.chi.il.us> greg@serveme.chi.il.us
(Gregory Gulik) writes:
>In article <1992Nov2.170953.15855@ils.nwu.edu> tsui@ils.nwu.edu writes:
>>
>>did you make reservations?  After all, it was a Friday night and B.C.'s
>>Crabhouse is rated one of the highest grossing restaurants in the country.  

>Yes, we did.  The biggest pisser was not being able to be
>seated until our whole party was there.
>

oooh, then thats bad, especially if the food wasn't worth it.  Did they give a
reason for the wait?  One time at Carlucci's we had reservations and ended up
waiting an hour.  I didn't mind because they explained the situation (something
beyond their control) and the food was worth it.

>>If there's a huge wait for tables this is understandable, they aren't sure if
>>your friends will make it or not.  The more people they are SURE are there
the
>>more they can seat.  If your friends didn't show up and they connected an
extra
>>table for you guys they would have wasted a table that some others could have
>>taken.
>
>That's great for them, but it pissed off 10 people enough that they may
>never eat there again.

yeah, but I still have to agree with the restaurant on this one, especially on
a busy night.


>>I've always wondered that myself, especially with cajun type shrimps.  You
have
>>all these wonderful spices that are completely gone by the time you get the
>>shrimp off.  Besides, peeling shrimp is not exactly fun to do (I used to peel
>>60 pounds a day at my family's place).
>
>No, it wasn't fun.  It's like eating celery.  You burn off more
>calories consuming it than you take in from eating it.  Well, not
>quite.  8^)

could be a new diet!!  THE DIFFICULT FOODS DIET!!
>
>>anybody been to Burhops in River North?  I've always wanted to try them but
it
>>looks like they're closed down.
>
>bummer.

kinda sad because its such a huge empty building

Newsgroups: chi.eats,rec.food.restaurants
From: sebruun@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (steve.bruun)
Subject: Re: Italian food in Chicago
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: chi
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:00:35 GMT
Followup-To: chi.eats
Summary: Mmmm, yummm, carbonara!

In article <1992Nov10.182017.24182@news.acns.nwu.edu>, dsk@casbah.acns.nwu.edu 
(Daniel Katz) writes:
> I'm looking for a good Italian restaurant in Chicago...
> I would like to find a place that doesn't think
> carbonara means add bacon to the alfredo sauce.
> 
> Dan

Yes!!!  Dan has touched on one of my most holy quests, the search
for good carbonara.  I don't care whether it's fettucine, linguini,
spaghetti, or whathaveyou.  Good carbonara is one of this world's
most wonderful things, but it is damn hard to find.  The best I've
ever eaten was at a place called The Daily Planet in Fresno, Cali-
fornia, a long way to go for dinner, I'm afraid.  I've ordered it 
at just about every place I've seen it since moving here, and have 
yet to find it done just right.  I would like to hear from others
who have had more success than I have.  And if it should turn out
that there's a place out here in the western hinterlands, I'll be
forever in your debt for the information.

For the record, I've tried Cacciatore Ristorante (Wheaton), Joey
Mondelli's (Warrenville), Gerardo's (Naperville), and a couple of
others which slip my mind at the moment.  I even found it on the 
Olive Garden's special Roman Pasta Festival menu the other night,
and believe it or not, it wasn't bad at all, but it wasn't really
carbonara either.

Thanks in advance for whatever pointers you can share.

- Steve Bruun, ...!att!ih!ihlpe!sebruun


Newsgroups: chi.eats,rec.food.restaurants
From: ignatz@chinet.chi.il.us (Dave Ihnat)
Subject: Re: Italian food in Chicago
Summary: Has anyone tried...
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:26:17 GMT

For a change, I'm not going to recommend anything--the best advice was from
the person who pointed you to the Taylor St. area (D**n Richard J. for gutting
that neighborhood...)  I've not yet found a definitive Italian restaurant,
and the reason I stayed in this city back in '72 was the restaurant/bar/theatre
scene.

But I do have a question of my own, on the same vein.  Does anyone have any
experience with Via Venito on Peterson Ave?  (I forget the exact address.)
It's one of those obviously Italian restaurants that I've just never been in
the area to try when hungry.  Anyway, comments are welcome...
		Dave Ihnat
		ignatz@homebru.chi.il.us (preferred return address)
		ignatz@chinet.chi.il.us
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From: tsh2@ellis.uchicago.edu (tsh2)
Subject: VEGETARIAN!!
Reply-To: tsh2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:16:32 GMT

I just went to a veggie place on Clark called Chicago Diner.  Pretty good, 
except for the Miso soup, which was Horrible!

Great home fries, though.

anyone else have any comments on this place?


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From: lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us (Gerry Swetsky)
Subject: Re: Deli in Chicago?
Organization: Vpnet Public Access
Distribution: chi
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 23:40:05 GMT

In article <4NOV92202038@devl.fnal.gov> glass@devl.fnal.gov writes:
>     Do any of you deli mavens have an opinion about Steins?

    As proprieters or as customers?

    There was a Stein where I used to work.  Didn't care for him at
    all.

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From: greg@serveme.chi.il.us (Gregory Gulik)
Subject: Re: Bob Chinn's.  AAAARGH!
Organization: Gagme Public Access Unix, Chicago, Illinois
Distribution: chi
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 20:51:31 GMT

In article <Bx3opp.DJH@portal.hq.videocart.com> kdenning@portal.hq.videocart.com (Karl Denninger) writes:
>
>Well, that is what you get for going (1) without reservations, and (2) on a
>busy night without reservations ;-)

I think I left out one important detail.
We DID have reservations!!!!


>I've never had this problem at Chinn's, and have requested special
>instructions several times.

Lucky you.

>I have had excellent experience with both the Alaskan King Crab and the Snow
>Crab there.  Never had a bad one. 

Great.


-greg


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From: krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us (D. 'krikket' Krick)
Newsgroups: chi.eats
Subject: alt.fan.greasy.spoon
Date: 11 Nov 92 22:53:59 GMT
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

Just wondering, is there an actual "The Greasy Spoon" in the Chicagoland area?
Last time I saw one I was out of state on my way to Pennselvania.  I remember
it to be an excellent resturant chain...

And yes, I'm serious about this!

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May the forces of Evil become confused on the way to your home!
From: jdc5@gargoyle.uchicago.edu (Jonathan Cohen)
Newsgroups: chi.eats
Subject: Batteries not included [Don't go!!!]
Summary: You get what you pay for.
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:37:53 GMT
Distribution: chi
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Chicago

On Friday my girlfriend and I decided to go out for dinner.
Because we were both feeling poor, we decided to check the Reader for
bargains.
We found that Batteries Not Included would serve a price fixe dinner
for $10, and decided to try it out.

First, the place was sort of hard to get to (at least for Hyde Parkers
like us). Also, we had to go through some rather abandoned streets.
Ok, I guess that's just part of living in Chicago. I can deal.

When we got there, we noticed that the menu was organized to give the
impression that they are giving you good food for your $10.
Thus, we found things like stuffed trout filet, filet mignon, shrimp,
etc. At this point we probably should have figured out that a filet
mignon dinner (including salad and a side of pasta, b.t.w.) which
costs ten bucks is going to be a lose.  

But no, we were not quick enough for that.
I ordered the trout, and my girlfriend ordered the filet mignon.
When the salads came, we were astonished to see that they were plates
full of brown lettuce, drenched in salad dressing.
No tomatoes, no peppers, no cucumbers, nothing.
They couldn't even find us green lettuce!

The trout was past its prime, and the beef was undercooked.
Of course, we should have sent back the beef, but at this point we
pretty much just wanted to finish dinner and leave.
The pasta (linguine primavera) was perhaps the best part of the meal.
We also made the mistake of each having a glass of wine and a cup of
coffee, thus bringing the price of the total meal up to ~$35.

In short, we got a very unimpressive meal for a somewhat, but not
terribly, low price.  I'm upset mostly because my expectations were
too high.

To anyone in a similar situation: go to the grocery store and make
yourself a good meal with the money. Batteries Not Included does not
satisfy.
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From: qpfa@quads.uchicago.edu (andrea l morris)
Subject: Re: Italian food in Chicago
Reply-To: qpfa@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:17:16 GMT

No one has mentioned the four or five restaurants on Oakley Street just North
of Blue Island. It's about 2400 S. Oakley.  Tuscano's and Bachanalia are
there along with a few others.  We used to go there a lot.  All the 
restaurants are moderately priced.  My boyfriend grew up in Italy and at one
time they were our favorite restaurants to go to.  Of course, we're both
students and were stretching our finances just to go there.  Once we 
discovered Trattoria Gianni (1711 N. Halstead) we stopped going to Italian
restaurants (except in Italy).  Trattoria Gianni was great, but it always
wound up costing about $30./each which is too much for us most of the time.
Now when we have transportation we go to Shiroi Hana for inexpensive sushi.

Two Italian restaurants I recommend everyone avoid are Tutto Posta and
Trattoria Dinotta.  The waiter at Tutto Posta recommended the scallops, which
were excellent - all two of them!  I cannot forgive a $9 main course which
can be entirely consumed in four moderate bits. The scallops were 
accompanied by a single peeled tomato.  The meal was definitely too expensive,
but as comedy we got our money's worth! To be fair some other members of our
party fared substantially better.

The food was barely ok at Trattoria Dinotta and the atmosphere was worse.
The owners apparently invested in only one Frank Sinatra tape which they played
over and over while we were there.  They must have played only one side as we
did not linger.

I recommend Trattoria Gianni for those who can afford it, although I have
not been in a while.  Try the crustini.

Andrea Morris
morris@anlchm.chm.anl.gov
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 5 Nov 1992 22:58:21 CST
From: <U53519@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: chi.eats
Subject: Re: Dinner before the opera...
Distribution: chi
 <Bww3p8.4FC@ddsw1.mcs.com> <1992Oct30.214923.22959@sdc.com>

In article <1992Oct30.214923.22959@sdc.com>, kenk@sdc.com (Ken Konecki) says:
>
>In article <Bww3p8.4FC@ddsw1.mcs.com> jailbird@ddsw1.mcs.com (Ron D. Harvey,
>Professional Bachelor) writes:
>>if you want to get a bit pricier, try the Frontera Grill at 400-something
>>N. Clark; excellent flashy Mexican fare (no burritos, though).
>
>Be prepared to wait a long, long time for a table at the
>Frontera.  They do take reservations, however.
>
>Cheers,
>    -Ken K
>--
I don't think that Frontera Grill takes reservations.  It's a long wait,
period.  Topolabampo, however, does take researvations.  Topolabampo is
a separate restaurant within the Frontera Grill space, also run by
Rick and Deann Bayless.  It has a separate menu, more adventuresome and
more expensive.  Great food, and worth every penny.

-- Ray Sparrowe
   Department of Management
   University of Illinois Chicago
From: ddrumm@amiganet.chi.il.us (Daniel Drumm)
Newsgroups: chi.eats
Subject: Re: Italian food in Chicago
Date: 11 Nov 92 23:18:16 GMT
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

In article <brewer.01yb@meltdown.chi.il.us>, brewer@meltdown.chi.il.us (Mike
Wilson) writes:
>There used to be a place in the UIC area call...well, I can't remember.  It
>doesn't really matter much because it closed.  But that area is where the
>Little Italy neighborhood used to be (and still is to some extent). You could
>always try there.  There's bound to be something nice.
>
>What WAS the name of that place?  Gawd it was wonderful, too.  It was on
Taylor
>just west of Morgan (across the alley from Papa Charlie'?).
 
 
I dunno which one you mean. I live here in Little Italy, and for my money,
Rosebud is the best of the bunch. Tuscany is too pricey and the food is not as
good. The chefs are not exactly subtle there and the wine list
is...well...overpriced. The guy who owns Rosebud is a real "comer" in the
Chicago cuisine biz and for good reason.
 
Anybody notice the UPS ad on TV that shows how they deliver to all over the
world, and they flash a shot of the Italian Ice place here on Taylor? I thought
that was great.
From: dattier@gagme.chi.il.us (DWT)
Newsgroups: chi.eats
Subject: Re: Bob Chinn's.  AAAARGH!
Date: 8 Nov 92 19:15:24 GMT
Distribution: chi
Organization: Gagme Public Access Seraglio, Chicago, Illinois  60630-0305
Originator: dattier@gagme

tsui@ils.nwu.edu wrote in <1992Nov2.170953.15855@ils.nwu.edu>:

| anybody been to Burhops in River North?  I've always wanted to try them but
| it looks like they're closed down.

I was there around this time of year in 1988 or 1989.  The food was terrible;
our fish was overcooked to the point of flavorlessness, and the thick sauces
were supposed to make up for that.  The service was slow, the waiter was
arrogant, and the prices were very River North.  The person in our party who
had suggested Burhop's told the waiter that I was dissatisfied with the
entree, and the waiter started to offer to replace it, but the thought of
waiting all over again for another plateful of something just as bad was even
worse than that of giving up as it is.  I didn't mention the time factor to
the waiter, but I did say, "No thank you; the second try won't be any better."

It was a thoroughgoing disappointment.  This was a Tuesday night, and they
were nearly empty.  I left my knife between the tines of my fork but I'm sure
the chef never received the message.  If they've closed, I shed no tears.

David W. Tamkin   Box 59297   Northtown Station, Illinois  60659-0297
dattier@gagme.chi.il.us   CompuServe: 73720,1570   MCI Mail: 426-1818
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From: dsk@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Daniel Katz)
Newsgroups: chi.eats,rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Italian food in Chicago
Summary: where?
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:20:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Nov10.182017.24182
Reply-To: dsk@nwu.edu
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, USA

I'm looking for a good Italian restaurant in Chicago, with entrees/pasta
around $10.  Does a place like this exist?  I've been to a couple of
Lettuce Entertain You places, Leonnas, La Novita, the Black Cat, and
a few others, to no avail.  I would like to find a place that doesn't think
carbonara means add bacon to the alfredo sauce.

Has anyone been to Rose Angeli's?  I tried to get in there on Saturday at 9:30,
but the wait was 1 1/2 hours.  This could mean something, But Leonna's also
has long waits, and they doesn't know how to make pasta, so I'm not sure if
this means anything good.

any suggestions would be appreciated...

Dan
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Dept. of Electrical Engineering                             1(708)491-8887
Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, 60208                E pur si muove
From: dlg1@quads.uchicago.edu (deborah lynn gillaspie)
Newsgroups: chi.eats
Subject: Re: What's Zum Deutchen Eck, 2924 N. Southport?
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:19:04 GMT
Reply-To: dlg1@midway.uchicago.edu
Distribution: il
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

Zum Deutchen Eck is a German restaurant. You'll find meat and potatoes
in lots of variations!<g> Seriously, they make things like Weiner Schnitzel
which is a veal filet pounded thin, breaded and sauteed, various kinds 
of sausages, possibly duck, potato salad, etc. If you're used to 
Amerikun food you'll probably be fine.<g>  --Debbie

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