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From: daves@techmpc.csg.mot.com (Dave Schmitt)
Subject: SLS GCC chokes on TIFF libraries
Organization: Motorola Cellular Subscriber Group MIS
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:33:12 GMT
Summary: GCC bites the dust on g3states.h


Has anyone managed to compile the tiff library?  I'd like to
link this with JPEG/URT/XV etc., but GCC chokes on the large
constant declaration  in g3states.h (which lists the constants
for a ~300x300 array of integers).

GCC eats up more than 14Mb of memory (even though the original
source file is only 300k), which crashes my machine.
BTW, I came across the same problem at work using GCC on a Motorola
88K box with 32Mb max process size, and only got around it by using
the Greenhills, rather than GCC compiler.

I've tried with and without optimization (-O/-O2), with and without
-g, but nothing has helped so far.

If someone has compiled tif_fax3.c and could send me the object
(tif_fax3.o), I would be very grateful.  Or if anyone has any
suggestions, they are also welcome.

-Dave.
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From: drose@draco.bison.mb.ca (Dave Rose)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: tput
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:13:10 GMT
Organization: The Draco Unix System

I recently grabbed clear from one of the utils packages...now it
is complaining about not having a 'tput' command.
Anyone have that kicking around?
From: sp@questor.org (Steve Pershing)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: WYSE Terminals and Linux
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 12:56:26 PST
Organization: Questor|Free Usenet News|Vancouver, BC: +1 604 681 0670

jliddle@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Jean Liddle) writes:

|> Recently I have inherited a couple of old WYSE Terminals and would like
|> to try and hang them off of my linux box as dumb terminals.  After some
|> effort and little success, I thought I'd see if anyone else has done this
|> successfully.  If so, I would very much like to correspond with you.
|> What I have thus far done:
|> 
|> 1.  Copied wyse termcap entries from the SUNs at the University
|> 2.  Added an entry in inittab for the wyse terminal:
|> 
|> ttys0:wyse50:/etc/getty 9600 ttys0
|> 
|> (I also tried ttys0:wyse50:/etc/uugetty ttys0 9600 - with no luck).
|> 
|> Unfortunately, the terminals have no docs so I'm somewhat in the dark
|> as to what to try.

Jean:

I have tried much the same, with the only luck being that when the system
reboots, my wyse30 comes up the the system prompt, but won't take any
input.

As far as getting data, you will find that Wyse/Amdek have a free FAXback
service at an 800 number in California.  You can get most all of the specs
you need by calling this service.  It allows you to Touch-Tone request up
to 6 documents at a time, including an index document.

The 800 number is:  800 800 WYSE.  It will instruct you how to use the
automated FAXback service.

Let me know how it works out.  Get the index first.

If you find a termcap entry for a Wyse30, please send it to me.  That's about
it from here.  Good luck.

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From: pcc@s1.gov (Philip C. Cox)
Subject: running dos & linux
Organization: llnl
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:09:15 GMT

I wanted to make sure that having a bootable dos partition and having a
bootable linux partition on the same disk will work. I am curious as to
how you (re)specify the active partition while in linux. Do I just use
fdisk ( like in dos )? Am I reading more into this that there is?

Phil
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From: injoh@rz.tu-clausthal.de (Jochen Hein)
Subject: Re: DOS emulation
Organization: TU Clausthal, Germany
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 12:54:15 GMT

In article <1993Jan05.105418.3769@donau.et.tudelft.nl> wolff@liberator.et.tudelft.nl (Rogier Wolff) writes:
>This is what is wrong with the current DOS emulator. It starts by emulating 
>the MSDOS API. You should start by emulating the hardware, and after you
>are able to run MSDOS using that, you can start optimizing performance
>and functionality by trapping some MSDOS calls that you know are often 
>used and are best emulated. The basic hardware that  MSDOS needs is:
>Keyboard/timers/video/floppy (harddisk).

I think the DOS-Emulator don't emulate the DOS-API because it boots a real
MS-DOS from disk. After a look in the sources of dosemu I think there
are the BIOS-calls emulated. So MS-DOS can access the simulated hardware
the simulated BIOS-calls. right?

Gru"s
    Jochen
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From: ppc1@cec2.wustl.edu (Peter Pui Tak Chiu)
Subject: install question (quick)
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 01:42:56 GMT

hi everyone,

i am now installing linux .98p5.

i just followed what the README file tells me to do and up to the point
that i use fdisk to create a partition for LINUX.

i have two hard disks.  i am using the first hard disk (110MB) for Linux.
i used FDISK in DOS to delete the original DOS partition on the first HD
and then boot up A1.  then i put in A2 and use fdisk.

after i use the command "w", i rebooted the computer as mentioned in the
readme file.  but the computer reads drive A, which has the disk A2 in it...
and it didn't boot up.  so i took out A2 and boot from hard disk, and it
says: NO ROM BASIC... SYSTEM HALTED...

what should i do?  should i boot with A1 instead?  and what do i do after
booting up A1?  or what should i do at all?

any suggestion is appreciated.

thanks in advance

peter
From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Need 3c501 driver 
Distribution: world
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 03:01:26 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

In article <1993Jan6.031516.25491@brainiac.mn.org> jrc@brainiac.mn.org writes:

   I am sure somebody out there has hacked a 3c501 driver for Linux. If
   you have one, please email it to me.......

Go buy yourself a real Ethernet card.  You can get NE2000 clones for
under $100 now...

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From: fredg@ariel.yorku.ca (Fredrick Gonsalves)
Subject: InterViews
Originator: fredg@c12.ariel.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: york
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:23:43 GMT



I just got the compiled files for InterViews.
Now I want/need a good book or some sort of
manuals to explain it to me.  Any help would be 
great.

FredG
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From: entropy@world.std.com (The Entropic one)
Subject: wow :)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 08:37:33 GMT

I must say Linux is the best programming environment I've ever used.

I've got the following system setup for my job , I would hate to even try
this under DOS :-) 

486 33, 16megs ram
super VGA with X
hercules mono monitor (using mmap call)
4 serial ports on int 3,4,2,5
IDE drive
SCSI devices
ethernet

How did I ever survive without Linux?

BTW-Given the choice of uncommented kernel source vs. manuals I'll
    take the source any day :)
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From: probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: problem with minicom
Date: 9 Jan 1993 22:12:40 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu
Keywords: minicom

eazye@world.std.com (Robert J Willis) writes:

>I've been having problems with minicom that came with the SLS release
>of linux (latest one, got off of tsx-11.mit.edu).  When i try to start
>it up, it says something about not running it as root and then does
>a core dump.  help!

>Also, linux seems to hang whenever i run my computer with the turbo
>on, why??  BTW, my computer works fine with dos and Coherent with
>or without turbo on.

>thanks in advance

Minicom breaks once the kernel stop allowing writing to the text segment.
The best option is to recompile minicom with the -fwritable-strings option.

James
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From: wong060@cs.cuhk.hk (Lewis S.H. Wong)
Subject: Re: Repost of swapper/scsi(?) boot problem 0.98.5, 0.99.2
Keywords: boot problem swapper scsi 0.98.5 0.99.2
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 08:03:45 GMT

philipr@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Philip Rhoades) writes:

>This is a repost of a previous problem - there was no posted solution
>and my mail to the person bounced. I have the same problem with both the
>SLS 0.98.5 created boot disk and a new boot disk from 0.99.2:

>Last week I've tried to upgrade to 98p6 by recompiling the new kernel and
>making a new bootdisk (yes, I don not use Lilo) ... compiling was fine, but
>when I tried to boot from the new disk I've got the following:

>	(after recognizing my SCSI disk correctly ...)
>	general protection: 0000
>	EIP: 0008:0004C461
>	EFLAGS: 00010286
>	fs: 0017
>	base: C0000000, limit 000A0000
>	PID: 0, process nr: 0
>	C7 02 00 00 00 00 A1 68 FF 04
>	task[0] (swapper) killed - unable to recover
>	kernel panic: trying to free up swapper memory space
>	in swapper task - not syncing

>Then it all halts ... I've tried the 99 version, too - with the same
>result. But I can boot it from my old 98p5 bootdisk ...

>Is there a way to get 98p6 or 99 running ? My machine is a 486 with 
>8 meg RAM and a SCSI disk on an AHA1542B

>Please, is there any solution ? Maybe something has changed for compiling
>the kernel from 98p5 to 98p6 ? Any options etc. ?

>Sven Kuehne                        Technische Universitaet Braunschweig
>c0033010@ws.rz.tu-bs.de            Rechenzentrum

>- Anyone have a solution to Sven and my problems?
You need to change the ROOT_DEV to the appropriate harddisk partition,
for example,

ROOT_DEV=/dev/sda3

this means the third partition of the first scsi harddisk will be the
root device of Linux.

Lewis

wong060@cs.cuhk.hk
From: nan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Nan Zou)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: 0.99.2 kernel compile error: too many args to `inode_init'
Date: 5 Jan 1993 20:47:07 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

I grabbed the 0.99.2 kernel source and tried to compile it, here's what
I got:

/usr/src/linux# make all
[...]
gcc -DKERNEL -Wall -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer  -c -o init/main.o init/main.c
init/main.c: In function `start_kernel':
init/main.c:245: too many arguments to function `inode_init'
init/main.c:245: void value not ignored as it ought to be
make: *** [init/main.o] Error 1

-------------------------------

What does this error mean?  I already did a make config; make dep, could
anyone tell me what I did wrong?  I'm using the SLS .98 package with gcc
2.2.2d.

-- Nan 
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From: munn@ug.cs.dal.ca (Richard B Munn)
Subject: Open Look Window Man
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:22:29 GMT

Where can I locate a copy of OLWM for linux?


Thank you,
Rick Munn.
From: terjeve@ifi.uio.no (Terje Vernly)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Problems mounting a floppy!!!!!!!!
Date: 4 Jan 93 19:05:26 GMT
	<1993Jan4.120218.17048@tom.rz.uni-passau.de>
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Oslo, Norway
Originator: terjeve@kolsaas.ifi.uio.no

In article <1993Jan4.120218.17048@tom.rz.uni-passau.de>, ellmenre@kirk.fmi.uni-passau.de (Nils Ellmenreich) writes:

> In article <1i94fmINNnds@urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de>, jansen@bruichladdich.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Thomas Jansen) writes:
> |> How can I mount a floppy ????
> |> Trying to mount the floppy with :
> |> 
> |> mount /dev/fd0 /floppy (where floppy is a created subdirectory)
> |> 
> |> I get the message: "/dev/fd0 allready mounted or /floppy busy "

> There are three possibilities:

> - You didn't put a filesystem on the floppy. Do that by typing
> mkfs /dev/fd0 1440              (for 3.5" HD)

> - The directory /floppy is not empty.

The mount-point doesn't have to be empty! - The contents will just be
hidden until you do an umount.

> - You have already mounted sth. on /floppy.

> Hope that helps!

I had exactly the same problem a while back, and I fixed it by
removing the floppy-device and creating a new one.  I'm not quite sure
why it worked, but it did :-)
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From: tfoley@camaro.uucp (Tim Foley)
Subject: Re: two quick questions...
Organization: camaro
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 23:35:54 GMT

In article <marcf.726020557@yorku.ca> marcf@nexus.yorku.ca (Marc G Fournier) writes:
>Hi...
>
>	1 - has anyone gotten talk to work?

  Nope, I keep getting 'target machine does not recognize us', if you get
it working, do post your findings

>
>	2 - well, this one is a little longer...
>
>	I'm running on a 386-33 with 8meg of memory.  If I
>do a 'free', it tells me I have something like 5Meg cache in
>memory and 112k(?) in free memory...and it is dipping into swap
>space because of lack of free memory.
>
>	The questions are...what is the cache for? (disk caching?)  Why
>so much?  Can I reduce it so that swap space isn't used so much?

  Cache is dynamically allocated as needed.  I already asked Linux about 
that one too.



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From: ss@uucp
Subject: Re: Old Libc, can it be tossed?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:08:35 GMT

In article <C0E7zB.8xL@ra.nrl.navy.mil> eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil (Eric Youngdale) writes:

[very informative background about jump/shared libs]

My only complaint about linux jump/classic shared libraries is the
difficulty with which the're created, especially the X libs. Right now
it seems only a handful of people can actually put together
jump/classic shared libs. I can think of many widget sets that I'd
love to use but have to forego since I only how to make them static
(Wcl, Xc, and Xaw3d come to mind). Are we to expect a collection of
scripts that would automate or semi-automate the process of making
shared libraries and render making them feasible to the average user?
I hope so. Right now I know only of ones in the GCC directory on
tsx-11 which are overly difficult and seem very specific to only the
libs they were written for.


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From: martin@pandora.demon.co.uk (Martin White)
Subject: Re: Question about ISA/IDE disk throughput (pc newbie)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:49:45 +0000

>SC> Umm...Sorry to burst your bubble, but... I have a ISA bus 486/33 with
>SC> a generic (read $20) IDE & I/O board controlling a Seagate ST3283A. I
>SC> have achieved peak transfer rates of 1250KB/sec. The iozone benchmark
>SC> under linux (with a Minix partition) consistently does 550KB/sec writes
>SC> and about 640KB/sec reads. Ofcourse, I run my I/O bus at 11MHz instead
>SC> of the standard 8MHz but 200KB/sec is too low. A caching controller
>SC> with lots of memory will probably do much better, but you are better
> 
> Isn't that benching the cache speed?  I think the actual memory <-->
> disk transfer is still at ~500K/sec.  Would the same benchmark give the
> same results without the cache?  While the effective transfer rate is
> really that high--1250KB/sec peak-- the actual disk<-->memory transfer
> is far lower, the difference attributed to the chache performance.

Just out of interest I just ran iozone v1.16 here on my setup,
386sx25/16Mb (not runnning the BUS as fast as I could as the video
card freaks out if I do), IDE caching controller with 4Mb on board,
Quantum 240Mb IDE drive with on board 256Kb cache.

I got iozone to use a 10Mb file to defeat linuxs cache, which
resulted in the following.

  - Write time 25.29 Sec
  - 414620 Bytes/Sec write
  - 217141 Bytes/Sec read

That was writing/reading 20480 512 byte records to a Minix partition.

Under DOS with coretest I get 800Kb second transfer rate with  IDE
controller cache disabled, and 1400Kb second with it enabled, but then
a assume coretest is using a smaller file.

Martin

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From: feoh@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Chris Patti)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: 0.98 pl5 SLS , SLS x, X8514 SIGALRM problems.
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:48:18 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu

Hello.

I'm a relative newcomer to Linux but I have about 3 years of Unix under my 
belt.

I'm currently expiriencing a situation which has perplexed me greatly for a few
weeks now and I was wondering if anyone else has expirienced it/knows a fix..

Whenever I port an X app, it compiles flawlessly (or with changes so minor as
not to even be worth mentioning).  but when I go to run it it inevitably dies
with SIGALRM directly upon startup. Usually after displaying its opening screen/
prompt.

I read the Linux FAQ, and found nothing SPECIFICALLY geared to this problem,
however, there IS an entry which mentions "OLD" versions of Bash sending SIGALRM
to their children...

I have version 1.12.4 of Bash for Linux (the one that came with SLS 0.98 pl5)
and notice that the binary versions of Bash that I see on FTP sites are 1.12
as well.. I can't get the FSF Bash to compile straight off prep.ai.mit.edu
(it tries to compile itself as if it were on a USG system and fails. ) so I 
don't know what to do..

To reduce my query down to a simple question: Has *ANYONE* expirienced this same
problem, and if so did you find a solution? if you did, perhaps this should be
added to the FAQ?

Thanks in advance,
Chris Patti
feoh@gnu.ai.mit.edu
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From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Subject: Re: It's installed, now what?  (was Re: A flight of marketing fancy)
Reply-To: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:55:48 GMT

   From: richb@jti.com (Richard Braun)
   Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:24:14 GMT

   >But first, there is a huge crowd of able bodied and capable unix
   >literate users that Linux will appeal to, and they are the primary
   >target.  Why?  Because they are actually capable of contributing to
   >the improvement of the system.  So you can almost think of this
   >as a recruitment drive.

   I think this approach is limiting.  It has led to such monumental
   efforts as MIT Project Athena which have produced far fewer spinoffs
   than were originally intended.  (How many people here know that X
   Window is *not* an Athena spinoff?  Or that the Athena environment
   still runs in exactly one place--the MIT campus?)  What ends up
   happening is you have a hacker's system written by hackers for other
   hackers, and since the lusers who rely on primitive software like MS
   Word and Excel don't matter anyway, the system never strives toward a
   goal behind hackerdom.

Actually, the approach taken by Project Athena and Linux are quite
different.  Project Athena was written in exactly one place: at MIT.
Linux is being developed all over the world.  The goals of Project
Athena was did not include taking over the world (although that would
have been nice), and so the fact that there weren't a lot of spinoffs
isn't that important.  I should mention, though, that the Athena
environment has been exported to other sites; it is not true that it is
only running at MIT.  You can buy it from DEC as "DECathena", and there
have been a couple of other sites which have picked up the Athena
distribution and set it up on their own.  Granted, not a lot, but there
are some.

Anyway, I digress.  I also think it is misleading for people to say that
Linux has "this target audience", or "that target audience".  Peter's
SLS distribution may have a certain well defined audience, but different
people will have different viewpoints on this issue.  My viewpoint (as
an admitted hacker) is that I don't particularily care whether or not
Linux ever supplants MS-DOS or OS/2.  I'm not an ideologue like some of
the people at the FSF are.  So if Linux is only used by just the
hackers, that's O.K.  (at least for me).  There are an awful lot of
hackers out there, and as long as we can get useful work done on Linux,
and as long as we can compile freely available programs which work
POSIX, a lot of people will be quite happy.

						- Ted
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From: etxaax@falcon2.ericsson.se (Anders Axelsson)
Subject: Re: SLS, Laptops, X and Xega
Organization: Ericsson
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:05:04 GMT

nieuwhzn@fys.ruu.nl (Gerrit J. Nieuwenhuizen) writes:

>Can some kind soul point out how to get Xfree86 working properly on
>a laptop.
>The Xega thing seems to have some problems with setting the proper 
>font path, the Xmono server (finally, after some fiddling with the
>Xconfig file) gave a root window and twm, but clicking the mouse 
>did not do a thing.


>			Gerrit J. van Nieuwenhuizen
>			Sub Atomic Physics department
>			University of Utrecht
>			nieuwhzn@ruunfs.fys.ruu.nl

The Xega server doesn't seem to be able to use the compressed pcf fonts that 
come with the SLS release. Uncompressing the fonts and updating the 
fonts.dir files in /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc and 75dpi directories got it  
working for me.  

I haven't been able to get it to work in 16 color mode though, xdpyinfo still 
only shows that 1 bit plane is used. If someone knows how to get it to 
recognize the 4 bits / pixel on my (ancient Trident 8800 ) SVGA card I'd 
like to hear about it.

Thanks

 /Anders 


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