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From: strobl@gmd.de (Wolfgang Strobl)
Subject: Re: MICROSOFT IS STACKING THE DECK!
Organization: GMD, Sankt Augustin, Germany
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:26:41 GMT

In <1992Oct14.154238.9328@doug.cae.wisc.edu> terryh@cae.wisc.edu (Terry Henning) writes:

>In article <79npb7@lynx.unm.edu> tkeitt@algodones.unm.edu (Timothy Keitt) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct12.185104.1@vax1.umkc.edu>, edowdy@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
>[Bunch o' stuff deleted]
>>
>>I think we should be carefull not to persecute MS
>>too quickly. Any OS has undocumented features -- its
>>the only way to maintain standards. Another factor to
>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>What a great way to maintain standards - Don't tell anyone else about them. :)

Exactly. Hide features which aren't standard.

Wolfgang Strobl
#include <std.disclaimer.hpp>
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: gilem@aix02.ecs.rpi.edu (Michael R. Gile)
Subject: Re: Mixing portrait & landscape in WfW2.0?
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 16:44:50 GMT

In article <mcdonald.382@aries.scs.uiuc.edu> mcdonald@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (J. D. McDonald) writes:
>In article <#bxzf#m@rpi.edu> kudla@acm.rpi.edu (Robert Kudla) writes:
>
>
>>Hi.  All I want to do is have the masthead for my newsletter (with a
>>logo in .WMF format and two rows of TrueType text) run up the left
>>hand side of the page, with a line "under" it, and then have two
>>columns of text running down the page normally.  Subsequent pages
>>would have either two or three columns of text with .WMF's and text
>>frames thrown in here and there. 
>
>>Here are the methods I've tried:
>
>>1. Framing the text part and the logo, and rotating each of them.
>>Unbelievably, you can't rotate frames, even of .WMF's.  
>
>Windows just doesn't like to do this.
>
>The best solutions:
>
>1) as suggested, print the logo once, landscape, and use physical
>   scissors, physical glue, and there you go into a copy machine or
>   as camera ready copy.
>
>2) if a Postscript printer, print the logo to encapsulated Postscript,
>   hack that by hand (actually edit the PS code) to rotate it, and
>   paste that in your document. Luckily ou'll have to horrible hassle 
>   of the rotation only once. And its a bitch getting it positioned
>   properly.

These solutions are rediculous! Your problem is that you are trying to 
do this with w4w.  It is very easy to do this with AmiPro, Pagemaker,
or Framemaker, all of which are more desktop publishing programs than
word.  Next time you choose to spend you money on software, make sure 
you check out the alternatives.



>
>Doug McDonald

Mike
gilem@rpi.edu

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microsoft has done it again... reduced people to physical cut-and-paste
From: ar630@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kevin White)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: DOS Graphics programs in a Window?
Date: 15 Oct 1992 16:38:54 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ar630@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kevin White)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Has anybody been able to make a DOS program that runs in graphic mode run
inside of a window on Win 3.1  in 386 mode?  I know I'm supposed to be able
to do it, but I can't.  I started out with Fractint, then tried PovRay
(which will writre to a standard VGA screen) and then tried Dosshell in
graphics mode.  None of them work in a window.  They say "can't be run with
other applications running full screen" or something like that.

Help!

I have a 486-50.  One problem I can think of is that it has local bus
video, runnig 800x600x64k color.  I may try 256 color (maybe even 16) and a
lower res, but it doesn't seem to like that the colors should cause a
problem!)

Thanks!

Kev
-- 
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"The things you say, your purple prose just gives you away.
The things you say.  You're Unbelieveable."
           ---EMF, "Unbeleieveable"
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: louay@turing.toronto.edu (Louay Gammo)
Subject: Re: mscdex says 'incorrect version of DOS'?!
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:04:23 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.074342.1048@netcom.com> whitaker@netcom.com (Brad Whitaker) writes:
>I haven't used Windows NT, but I had the same problem with DOS 5.0 and
>Windows 3.1.  The solution is to install the "setver" device driver.
>The default table for setver has an entry to tell mscdex that DOS 4.0
>is running.
>
	That will not work. I tried that on several machine here
	and that failed no matter what version you use with setver.
	The proper thing to do is:
		Get the latest version of mscdex (2.21!) from microsoft
		(or by ftp from an archive site).

		Get the latest device driver from the manufacturer
		of the CD drive. In my case that is Chinon, and I have
		to download it from their BBS.

>Brad Whitaker         whitaker@netcom.com  
>"If the line wiggles, that's good" - Robert Pirsig 


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From: cfs@cowpas.waffle.atl.ga.us (Charles Stephens)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: Windows and KXP1123
Date: 8 Oct 92 05:48:30 GMT
Organization: COW Pastures

cid@athena.mit.edu (Derek H Cedillo) writes:

> I wrote:
> >>[Cant get into draft mode on KXP1123 in windows]
> 
> scott reimert wrote:
> 
> >[use print setup command]
> 
> I did this.  Multiple times.  both in the word processor and the
> print manager itself.  Neither one solved the problem.  It still
> printed in Letter Quality.  Even when I programmed the printer
> to print draft and ignore the program from windows it still printed
> in LQ.

        This is because the application is printing fonts to the printer
instead of simple text.  There is no way around this, but you can lower
your resolution to 180x180 to achive a "draft" effect.

--
Charles Stephens,
cfs@cowpas.waffle.atl.ga.us
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From:  root@sean.tomsk.su (Alex Povzner)
Subject: I've created COVOX(lpt' DAC) driver for Windows
Reply-To: root@sean.tomsk.su
Organization: Elecard ltd hq
Date: Thu,  8 Oct 92 13:57:56 +0800


        Are You in need of COVOX (DAC) driver for Windows ? Such
driver allows to play .WAV and .MOD files under MS-Windows !
With simple DAC (Covox) scheme either on resistors or on DAC chip !
Any melody can be assigned to any Windows' internal event !
Almost any prrogram for Windows' Sound will work with Covox
Driver !

        If You don't have COVOX driver and You want to receive it,
You send usual paper letter containing $5 and Your EMAil address
to me and in a one day after delivering of the letter You will
have had the driver.

        My address : Russia, index 634034, town Tomsk,
        street Uchebnaya 34, 51. Alex Povzner
From: clay+@cs.cmu.edu (Clayton Bridges)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: NDW2.0 PRS files on Internet?
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:38:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.Bw4Js1.7vr.2
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

Has anyone seen the Norton Desktop for Windows .PRS file updates
anywhere on the internet? I tried archie, and he couldn't find them.

Cheers
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: moncrg@iear.arts.rpi.edu (gregory d moncreaff)
Subject: Re: Need Screen Blanker for Windows...
Organization: the committee for asethetic deletions
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 03:36:25 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.204125.21345@news2.cis.umn.edu> rjg@umnstat.stat.umn.edu (Robert J. Granvin) writes:
>
>Anyways, I need a screen blanker which will run under Windows.  Our new
>system is active just about 24 hours a day, and I can't afford to leave
>an image on the screen permanently and burn those brand new non-interlaced
>phosphors.  :-)
>
isn't there a screen saver built into windows 3.1?
-- 
gregory d moncreaff moncrg@iear.arts.rpi.edu moncrg@rpi.edu
From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: MICROSOFT IS STACKING THE DECK!
Date: 14 Oct 92 12:42:23 GMT
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com

In article <5381@sumax.seattleu.edu> khamer@sumax.seattleu.edu  
(Little Kenny Hamer) writes:
> 
> If that is  the case in any substantial way, then perhaps you
> could point out a major Microsoft application that is so clearly  
superior
> to all competitors in speed and functionality?  DOS is a leader  
because it
> has been the standard OS for intel-based personal computers for a  
long
> time.  Windows stands out because it is one-of-a-kind.  Someone  
else
> _could_ have made a great DOS pseudo-multitasking system and  
windowing
> system, but MS got there first.
> 
> Is Word beating all competitors, in any incarnation?

Yep. On the Mac, it is by far the number one word processor.
But Microsoft doesn't make the OS on the make, so that doesn't fit
in with the argument some of the previous posters have been
making.

> 
> Is Excel?  

Yep. Again on the Mac, though.

>Is any other of their DOS or Windows apps so much better than
> the best competition that one might think there was some unfair  
advantage?

Well, Excel perhaps, but that's more based on the design of
its user interface, and not based on some performance 
advantage they get out of making undocumented calls.

--
Jim Mann            
Stratus Computer   jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com  
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: hm@opus40.ix.de (Harald Milz)
Subject: Re: ATM fonts problems
Organization: iX-Redaktion
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 12:08:29 GMT


In article <1992Oct12.050435.673@boy.com>, sgw@boy.com (Steven Warner) writes:
|>  (Van Dao Mai) writes:
|> >Since I upgraded to 3.1 I always had some problems.
|> >    - A fresh installation of Win 3.1 does not have ATM fonts control 
|> >      panel.
|> Install Win3.1 First.  Then install ATM.  Are you running ATm 2.0
|> or later?  You should be. 
|> 
|> Yes,  ATM works fine with 3.1
|> 
|> ----
|>  Steven Warner  (34W 36L)
|>  sgw@boy.com    [ ess gee double you at boy dot com ]
|>    "...anything but a hayse modem..."
    
It works with the older version as well. Install as described.
-- 

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|iX - Multiuser Multitasking Magazin      |    FAX:    +49 511 547 47 33 |
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From: reedj@hplsla.hp.com (Reed Jacobsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: ARGHH!-WFW2.0 Sucks big time!
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:34:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: hplsla.157270001
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA

>/ hplsla:comp.os.ms-windows.misc / skok@itwds1.energietechnik.uni-stuttgart.de (Holger Skok) /  3:49 am  Oct  6, 1992 /
>Hi folks,

>Anybody having similar experience with WFW2.0?
>I have been working on a fairly large document and tried to split it up,
>in order to improve response time and to make the handling of the files
>easier. I divided the document into chapters and stored them in separate
>files. Then I created a control file in which I entered the separate
>chapters with the Insert File function. 
>Using the proper display mode I could also see that the control file
>indeed only contained a few headlines and the insertion fields. 
>Imagine my surprise when I checked the size of the control file and
>found it to be as large as the sum of all sizes of the inserted files!
>(~3MB for a 46-page document containing many MS-Draw images)

I went through the same process you have, with the same reaction.  I was
furious that all of the file were actually included in the final doc.  I 
still use (and like) W4W a lot; I just don't use Insert File. There is
a different field, though, that does pretty much what you want: the RD field
(for Reference Document).  This allows you to create table of contents/
indexes on large documents composed of many chapters in separate files.
The only drawback - and it is a real one - is that {RD} does not change
the pagination of the individual documents, so if you want "running"
pagination, you do have to set the starting page number to the right value
for each file before creating the TC/Index.

The Reference Document field handled what I was looking for when I tried
using Include Document.  I hope it can help you, too.

Reed Jacobson
Lake Stevens Instrument Division
Hewlett-Packard Company
reedj@hplsla.hp.com

---------------- my opinions are my own -----------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura)
Subject: ***HELP*** Windows 3.1 cannot work well!!
Summary: can't use without DOSSHELL
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 03:26:10 GMT
Distribution: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

	Hi, I'm posting to this group for the first time and I need a help.

	I intend to use Windows as my main interface but there are several
	problems.

	First, I use Procomm 2.4.3 (?) which I just got from shareware and
	CompuServe Information Manager as my communication soft.  They do not
	work at all when I launch them from Windows' Program Manager.  Actually
	if I first start DosShell, then Windows, they work all right.  They work	fine from Dosshell as well as from Dos command prompt.  They just don't
	work if I try to start them from Windows which is launced directly from
	c:\> win prompt.  Here are what happen when I try to the communication
	software from Windows which starts from command prompt.

		Procomm
			Initializing screen appeares on the screen and stops.
			No response to Alt+** keys.
			Ctrl+Alt+Del and <CR> cannot get me back to Programan
			screen.  Sometimes I get back to the Programan, though,
			is I move the mouse even a bit, the screen blanks and 
			nothing but a blinking cursor appears.

		CompuServe CIM
			CIM screen appears and I can move the cursor with the
			mouse.  If I try to log on, "Initializing Modem" sign
			comes up and the screen locks up.
			The rest is the same as with Procomm.

	I don't mind extra clicking on the Dosshell menu but I have to lanuch
	Windows to get WP4Win work all right.  If I try to start WP4Win from
	Windows which is started from Dosshell, a message appears saying
	"Not enough memory." :-<  If started from c:\ => Windows, it works just
	fine.

	How can I get everything straight?  Can't Windows handle Procomm and 
	CompuServe CIM?  (also MS Flight Simulator 4.0 does not work quite right
  	when it is lanunced from Windows unless Windows starts from Dosshell.)
	Is buying more memory and always starting from Dosshell the only 
	solution?

	Another related problem or question.  Can America Online start inside of	Windows?  When I try, I can get the initial screen but cannot log on 
	with the message "AOL cannot find the MODEM"!!!

	I have my mouse (Dexxa serial) attached to COM1 and the modem to COM4.
	I tried COM2 for the modem but Procomm could not display received 
	message on the screen.  CompuServe CIM, could dial but could not connect	even if I configured it to COM2.


	Any help and advice will be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

					Tetsuya Nishimura
					(of course, I'm writing to this group
					 using Procomm launced from Windows 
					 which was started from Dosshell  ;->
From: weiss@curtiss.seas.ucla.edu (Michael Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: ARGHH!-WFW2.0 Sucks big time!
Keywords: Crashes problems wfw
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:45:10 GMT
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles

In article <mcdonald.392@aries.scs.uiuc.edu> mcdonald@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (J. D. McDonald) writes:
>I see no objection to the **IDEA** of inputting codes the W4W WYSIWYG
>way. It a brilliant idea. But since there is no **absolute** one-to-one
>correspondence between what is seen on the page, and what method W4W
>is using to get that appearance (i.e. what you typed in, on purpose or
>accidentally, or what W4W generated by a bug in itself) you still 
>sometimes need to see the actual real codes.

One problem with the "reveal codes" idea is that you would have to be editing
files a la WordPerfect.  Under those circumstances, you start to get into the
"downstream" approach, which, IMO, is much more difficult in later editing
than the object-oriented approach of Word.

Also, it is worth noting that you can reveal almost all codes under one or
another circumstances (i.e., showing the hard returns and tabs, or showing the
field codes).  Granted, this is not exactly what you were referring to, but it
does give you an opportunity to look at most of the ones that are not so
readily noticed with WYSIWYG.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.soundcard,comp.os.msdos.programmer.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.windows.ms
From: root@sean.tomsk.su (Alex Povzner)
Subject: I've created Windows' driver for COVOX(DAC on LPT1)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:24:14 GMT
Reply-To: root@sean.tomsk.su
Organization: Elecard ltd hq


        Are You in need of COVOX (DAC) driver for Windows ? Such
driver allows to play .WAV and .MOD files under MS-Windows !
With simple DAC (Covox) scheme either on resistors or on DAC chip !
Any melody can be assigned to any Windows' internal event !
Almost any prrogram for Windows' Sound will work with Covox
Driver !

        If You don't have COVOX driver and You want to receive it,
You send usual paper letter containing $5 and Your EMAil address
to me and in a one day after delivering of the letter You will
have had the driver.

        My address : Russia, index 634034, town Tomsk,
        street Uchebnaya 34, 51. Alex Povzner







Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: murphyed1@woods.ulowell.edu (The Butler)
Subject: Paradise VGA Windows 3.1 drivers
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:21:38 GMT

HELP!!!!!
I need the windows3.1 drivers for the Paradise VGA card.  I have the windows
3.0 drivers, but they don't want to work!


Ed...

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From: icking@gmd.de (Werner Icking)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: ATM fonts problems
Date: 15 Oct 92 11:46:38 GMT
Organization: GMD, Sankt Augustin, Germany

In <1992Oct12.050435.673@boy.com> sgw@boy.com (Steven Warner) writes:

> (Van Dao Mai) writes:
>>Since I upgraded to 3.1 I always had some problems.
>>    - A fresh installation of Win 3.1 does not have ATM fonts control 
>>      panel.
>Install Win3.1 First.  Then install ATM.  Are you running ATm 2.0
>or later?  You should be. 

Is there a later version than 2.0 -- I ask that because I have problems
with Windows 3.1 and ATM 2.0, too. The MicroSoft Hotlien told me to
re-install a fresh copy of WIN31 and there install ATM 2.0 (instead of
installing 3.1 over the old 3.0) But that didn't solve my problem, that
TTY.DRV does not work/print if ATM is installed an active in Windows 3.1.

>Yes,  ATM works fine with 3.1

No, it doesn't - and MS knows it. Everything worked fine with 3.0, but
nobody feels responsible, that it works in 3.1, too.

Werner

PS: What size and time-stamp has TTY.DRV in the american version of
    windows 3.1 - I have only the german version.
PPS: Do any patches exist for ATM 2.0? Where can I get them?
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: paul@ace.acadiau.ca (Paul Steele)
Subject: BETTER print driver for ImageWriter/C.Itoh 8510
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 12:36:24 GMT

Is there a better Windows print driver for the C.Itoh 8510 (better known as 
an ImageWriter).  I just sold my old Mac SE to finance a new 386 system with 
windows, but the best print quality I can get out of the printer is just 
96x72 dpi.  On the Mac I could get at least twice this resolution and was 
pretty good for a lowly dot matrix.

If I can't find a better driver, I may opt for an ink jet printer.  What is 
a good Ink Jet printer for use with Windows that has a good cut sheet feeder 
and reasonable speed?  I might even consider a low end LaserJet or LJ Clone.

___
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Acadia University, Computer Centre            FAX: 902-542-4364
Wolfville, Nova Scotia, Canada, B0P 1X0  Internet: Paul.Steele@acadiau.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: kenny@osf.org (Kenneth Crudup)
Subject: Re: Painting in 256 color
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 01:23:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.173506.2292@pixel.kodak.com>
dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones) writes:
>Actually Windows reserves up to 20 colors for its own use.

>In 16 color
>systems like VGA it takes all the available palette for itself, and
>you're SOL if you want to define a palette color of your own (even if
>the display driver supports palettes, which standard VGA doesn't).

>In 256
>color systems the first 10 and last 10 entries in the 'physical' palette
>are reserved for Windows and the Palette Manager (that part of the
>software which decides who gets palette entries) won't give them up to

I've got a Diamond SpeedStar 24x, which I have set up to do 640x480x16.7M
colors, and has the option to do 800x600x32k colors (thru drivers, of 
course).

Is this some sort of klugey "extension" to get those colors, or does Windows
actually recognize (if not directly support) that many? I've got a version
of Halo that I can display 24-bit (16.7M color) TrueColor apps with, but
I don't know if that's a special hacked up version just for my card.
(To be honest, I'm only using DOS for a project I'm building- most of the
time in DOS native mode thru the MKS toolkit- I only fire up windows to
look at pictures in HiColor :-)

If I get some of the Shareware windows Hi-Color viewers, will they be able
to use some standard function-call interface to work in HiColor mode, or
do they have to be tailored to a specific card(s)?

	-Kenny
-- 
Kenneth R. Crudup, Contractor, OSF DCE QA
OSF, 11 Cambridge Center, Cambridge, MA 02142	+1 617 621 7306
kenny@osf.osf.org			OSF has nothing to do with this post.
	    "Motor oil?!?! <splut> YOU GAVE ME MOTOR OIL?!?!"
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc