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From: miguel@boytoy.csd.sgi.com (Michael/Miguel Sanchez)
Subject: Re: Matt/sexuality
Keywords: matt sexuality
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:21:18 GMT

In article <BsupMC.2Gn@ecf.toronto.edu>, funga@ecf.toronto.edu (FUNG Alexander Yok-Wai) writes:
|> In article <jim.713583150@ferkel> jim@ferkel.ucsb.edu (Jim Lick) writes:
|> >In <l8gl15INNm2@phakt.usc.edu> eddy@phakt.usc.edu (George Edmond Eddy) writes:
|> >>                  ...  what did bum me out was brenda and dillion screwing.
|> >>i would love to see a show that has a girl in high school, not sleep with
|> >>a guy, and feel completely secure about it, without feeling the need to 
|> >>fit in, but being able to stand on her own feet.  instead of reassuring
|> >>our young impressionable minds that "safe-sex" was practiced, what a 
|> >>tired cliche'.
|> >
|> >I'm sorry, but I completely disagree here.  First, having a high school girl
|> >have sex with her boyfriend is a pretty bold move for a prime-time show.
|> >Sponsors got a bit uptight about that episode.
|> 
|> Hell, if anyone can name a prime-time series that even had such a subplot
|> of a high school girl having sex with her boyfriend before 90210, I'd like
|> to know! What Mr. Eddy described, of a high school girl secure with her
|> boyfriend in a non-sexual relationship, in my opinion describes virtually
|> every television show on at that time with characters of the corresponding
|> age group. 90210 was certainly among the first series to depict teenage sex
|> in a relationship.
|> 

If I am not mistaken the "James at 15" series did this with James the
main character and a visiting Swedish student.  I remember quite the 
stir it caused.

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From: kmeyer@aero.org (Kraig R. Meyer)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.melrose-place
Subject: Re: Apartments in LA
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:22:27 GMT
	<1992Aug4.212733.8756@cheshire.oxy.edu>
	<164l46INNfis@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <1992Aug12.061621.590@wam.umd.edu>
	<bjag-120892181818@owl.ls.nwu.edu>
Followup-To: alt.tv.melrose-place
Distribution: alt
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA


There have been a lot of postings in this newsgroup about how
unrealistically the finances of the people and apartments are in MP.
I don't think this is the case (warning: boring calculations follow).

I am looking for an apartment in Los Angeles right now, and happen to
be interested in the same general area as "Melrose Place."  The service
that I'm using currently lists 35 AVAILABLE two-bedroom apartments in
this general area for between $690-$800/month.  Four of these
apartments are in buildings with pools.  The vacancy rate of apartments
in this part of L.A. is around 10%, so there are probably a total of
about 350 two-bedroom apartments under $800/month in this general area.
(Most of the two bedroom units are somewhat higher than $800/month, though).

Could a receptionist afford half the rent on such an apartment?  At
$6/hour, a receptionist would have take home pay around $800/month.
According to the LA Times, many people in lower-end jobs in LA pay
around 50% of their take home pay for rent.  At the higher end of the
"receptionist" scale, I know that some law firms in downtown LA pay
closer to $12/hour for receptionists.  With a take home pay of $1600/mo,
Alison would have no problem paying $400/month for rent.

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From: markt@terapin.com (Mark Townsend)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.melrose-place
Subject: Re: Billy (Andrew Shue)
Date: 15 Aug 92 08:55:36 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <1992Aug13.105109.14690@husc3.harvard.edu>,
fenick1@husc9.harvard.edu (Sharon Fenick) writes:
>
>This sounds really silly, but I need to know if I'm crazy...does anyone
>else look at Billy/Andrew Shue and think "Brady Bunch"?  For my money,
>I'm not sure which kid he looks like, but he sure looks like one of the
>3 sons.
>
>Sharon

Yes, I have to agree.  I sorta looks like Peter Brady.  I sorta thought
that from the start.

Mark Townsend
Oakland, California

Internet: markt@terapin.com
From: 8schutting_r@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.melrose-place
Subject: Re:Billy (Andrew Shue)
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:27:32 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

what are you out of your f__king mind!!!!!!! do not equate any program
that is on t.v. today with that, that thing!!! called the brady bunch.
if this keeps up i can only see m.p. biting the dust faster than the return
of the brady bunch monster. please spare us!!!!!
From: cleo@cheshire.oxy.edu (Cleopatra)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.melrose-place
Subject: Re: last night's show...
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:17:01 GMT
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.


	I missed the very last line of the episode...When the whole gang was 
in Shooters and were congradulating Jake, Allison turned to "The Southern Chick"and said something that made the Southern chick turn  pale, but I don't know what she said
Could someone tell me?

							-Cleopatra
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.melrose-place
From: rm34@quads.uchicago.edu (Robert James Mohammed Monk)
Subject: Southern Chick
Reply-To: rm34@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Media Maven
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:23:23 GMT

Now, is it just me (I went to the bar before going home to watch MP, so I could
have been hallucinating) or did the fake southern accent seem to vanish in last
night's episode?

Brother "I can't believe I admit watching this" Robert

Newsgroups: alt.tv.melrose-place
From: deboer@neptune.mcs.anl.gov (Ms. Jennifer L. DeBoer)
Subject: Re: last night's show...
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Chicago, Illinois
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:23:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.181701.11461@cheshire.oxy.edu> cleo@cheshire.oxy.edu (Cleopatra) writes:
>	I missed the very last line of the episode...When the whole gang was 
>in Shooters and were congradulating Jake, Allison turned to "The Southern Chick"and said something that made the Southern chick turn  pale, but I don't know what she said
>Could someone tell me?
>
Yes, this was just after the other girl said that she "knew there could be
nothing going on between [Allison] and Jakke."  Allison smiled and said,
"But he is a good kisser."



******************
Jennifer DeBoer
deboer@mcs.anl.gov
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.melrose-place
From: conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad)
Subject: Re: Matt/sexuality
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:56:03 GMT

In article <KMEYER.92Aug11131026@solarium.aero.org> kmeyer@aero.org (Kraig R. Meyer) writes:

>kmeyer@aero.org writes:

>>> Until MP, there has never been a TV show that has had an openly gay
>>> regular character.  

>HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) said:

>> Not quite true.  There was a show with John Ritter who played a cop/landlord
>> (I'm not kidding)--I think it was called "Hooper"--which had a regular char-
>> acter that was gay; one of his fellow cops.  

>Actually the statement I made above is not entirely correct (as pointed out
>by the previous poster).  There were also several gay characters in the
>sitcom "Brothers."  I don't think either of these shows did very well;
>I'm not sure whether they were in prime time or not either.

The John Ritter show, "Hooperman," lasted two full seasons, and it was
definitely in prime time.  The character played by Joseph Gian was
openly gay, and a regular, and not celibate either.

Jon Alan Conrad
Newsgroups: alt.tv.melrose-place
From: as215@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alexander Aingworth)
Subject: "In Case You Missed _Melrose Place_"
Reply-To: as215@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alexander Aingworth)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 16:53:07 GMT




	"Biff, what did you think of the episode?"

	"Three words, Dave: _more Luke Perry_."



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    can smoke!
Newsgroups: alt.tv.melrose-place
Subject: Re: Billy (Andrew Shue)
From: fenick1@husc9.harvard.edu (Sharon Fenick)
Date: 13 Aug 92 10:51:08 EDT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center


This sounds really silly, but I need to know if I'm crazy...does anyone
else look at Billy/Andrew Shue and think "Brady Bunch"?  For my money,
I'm not sure which kid he looks like, but he sure looks like one of the
3 sons.

Sharon
From: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.dinosaurs
Subject: Re: Voice of the Boss
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:29:47 GMT
Reply-To: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


In a previous article, drumhell@n5160a.nrl.navy.mil (David Drumheller) says:

>Quick question:  
>
>Does Sherman Helmsly (spelling?) provide the voice for the Boss?
>Sounds like it.  I never caught the credits.  Helmsly played George
>Jefferson on `The Jeffersons,' and `All in The Family.'
>


Yes he does. If you want to see one of the funniest B. P. Richfield
stories (that's the name of Earls boss) be sure to tune in this
Friday night (8/14). ABC is running the episode entitled "And The
Winner Is...". This story features Baby Sinclair finally getting a
name, the Chief Elder dying, and Earl & B.P. running against each
other in an election to decide who will be the new Chief Elsder.

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From: IO10781@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Even better than the real thing.)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.dinosaurs
Subject: Re: Dinosaurs on ftp?
Date: 19 Aug 92 16:49:18 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

Patty,
  Tell you what. I just, and I mean just, met someone who happened to have
that little blipvert on disk. THis is Amiga format. I'll see if I can get
him to upload it to avahai.inria.fr for everyone to enjoy. :)
  If you're working under another format (not Amiga IFF raw format) maybe
you can get some utility to port it over. I dunno. I've never tried.

Right. That's that. Oog Aug I'm dying you idiot!

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Newsgroups: alt.tv.dinosaurs
From: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
Subject: Re: Baby Gets A Name!
Reply-To: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 20:37:01 GMT


In a previous article, Sparky () says:

>The teasers for tonight's episode say that Baby Sinclair is going to get a
>"real" name.  Has anyone heard what it will be?  And guesses?
>
>How about  Earl, Jr?
>


Since tonights show is a repeat, yes I already know what Baby's
name will be (as I'm sure alot of other users in this forum also
know). I wont say what the name is as I dont want to spoil the
surprise for anyone who hasn't seen the show (it's one of the
best in the series so far).

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From: cwang@gsb.columbia.edu (Chris Wang)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.dinosaurs
Subject: Looking for an episode..
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:26:39 GMT
Organization: Columbia Business School

I'm looking for a tape of the episode where I think Earl and his wife go out 
and leave the Baby to Junior, but he doesn't want to do it so he lets his 
sister do it. What happens is that the food in the fridge get out and escape 
and cause havok. They kidnap the Baby etc... This episode made me laugh so 
hard that I want to get it on tape. Does anybody have a copy?
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From: tbromley.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.dinosaurs
Subject: Re: Voice of the Boss
Date: 14 Aug 92 12:36:34 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton

aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White) writes:

> 
> In a previous article, drumhell@n5160a.nrl.navy.mil (David Drumheller) says:
> 
> >Quick question:  
> >
> >Does Sherman Helmsly (spelling?) provide the voice for the Boss?
> >Sounds like it.  I never caught the credits.  Helmsly played George
> >Jefferson on `The Jeffersons,' and `All in The Family.'
> >
> 
> 
> Yes he does. If you want to see one of the funniest B. P. Richfield
> stories (that's the name of Earls boss) be sure to tune in this
> Friday night (8/14). ABC is running the episode entitled "And The
> Winner Is...". This story features Baby Sinclair finally getting a
> name, the Chief Elder dying, and Earl & B.P. running against each
> other in an election to decide who will be the new Chief Elsder.
> 
Star Trek: The Next Generation fans should listen closely to the voices 
in this episode for a particular "guest star".

Tom
Newsgroups: alt.tv.dinosaurs
From: Sparky
Subject: Baby Gets A Name!
Organization: None Worth Mentioning
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 12:18:15 GMT

The teasers for tonight's episode say that Baby Sinclair is going to get a
"real" name.  Has anyone heard what it will be?  And guesses?

How about  Earl, Jr?
Newsgroups: alt.tv.dinosaurs
From: ins295b@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Humphrey)
Subject: The handbook and character biography.
Summary: I desire the handbook and biog's again.
Keywords: please.
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 05:47:13 GMT

Hi,
	Umm could some kind soul please mail me or repost a copy of the
dinosaurs handbook and biographies that appeared here a week or so ago.
My only copy (a hardcopy) was used by my irate mother to clean a mess up
that my new puppy made and hence they are somewhat difficult to read.
*sigh*


Thanks to the people that help.

Andrew Humphrey
ins295b@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au
ins295b@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au
humpy@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au

"Just because I'm paranoid, it doesn't mean the whole world isn't out to
get me".
From: drumhell@n5160a.nrl.navy.mil (David Drumheller)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.dinosaurs
Subject: Voice of the Boss
Keywords: voice
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:11:21 GMT

Quick question:  

Does Sherman Helmsly (spelling?) provide the voice for the Boss?
Sounds like it.  I never caught the credits.  Helmsly played George
Jefferson on `The Jeffersons,' and `All in The Family.'

Dave Drumheller
Newsgroups: alt.tv.dinosaurs
From: patty@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu (Patty Haley)
Subject: Dinosaurs on ftp?
Organization: Johns Hopkins Univ. Welch Medical Library
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:15:25 GMT

O.K.--I had accidentally been unsubscribed to this group for several
weeks, so please hold all flames if this is a FAQ.

I am trying to find a sound byte of Baby Sinclair saying "I'm the
baby!  Gotta love me!"  I had been able to download lots of stuff
from alt.binaries.sounds.misc, or whatever the group was (got 
unsubscribed from that one, too), but not this one.

Does anyone know of an ftp site, and whether or not this sound byte
is available?

-Patty

Newsgroups: alt.tv.dinosaurs
From: ins295b@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Dinosaurs on ftp?
Summary: I'm a nice guy ;)
Keywords: dinosaurs rule the world.
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 10:36:13 GMT

Hi,
	Tell you what for a short time (read about two weeks, or until
disk space gets tight again), I will make available all 23 of the
dinosaurs .wav files for anyone to ftp. Also there is the file dino.txt
which contains the program guide given to me by Michael Masterson,
(Thanks Michael),  I'm not sure about the copyright of the biographies
and the dinosaurs guide so I won't put them on until I can talk to the
local gods of Monash. But please don't grab 'em inside of the hours
9am-6pm (local time) cos the machine is just a little
dec2100 and usually has 40 - 50 users on it (Honest).  The address is:

yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au: ~ftp/pub/dinosaurs/

Enjoy.

--
Andrew Humphrey
ins295b@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au
ins295b@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au
humpy@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au

"Just because I'm paranoid, it doesn't mean the whole world isn't out to
get me".


Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
From: mw@ki.fht-mannheim.de (Marc Wachowitz)
Subject: silence and activity
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 14:10:11 GMT
Organization: Fachhochschule fuer Technik Mannheim
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Lars R{der Clausen <elascurn@daimi.aau.dk> wrote:
: rvenu@phoenix.sni-usa.com (Ramakrishnan Venugopal) writes:
: >What is this "real life" that is afraid of silence ?
: >Remember, when a man is running, one of his feet remains at deep rest
: >while the other is moving. If one feet does not remain at
: >rest he will be falling, however much he tries to hurry.
: >Silence (within) and (successful) activity (without) go together.

: Anyway, I tried silence, and it didn't help my activity. Now I'm trying
: activity, and it DOES help my activity. And I find it to be much more fun...
: I'm doing thing I wouldn't have dreamt of doing when I was using TM, and I'm
: enjoying every minute of it!

Well, I think somehow both of you are making a good point - it's all a matter
of what you want in life, how important concepts of "success" and "failure"
are to you, how you approach activity, etc.
For some people passive contemplation is the key to a balanced life, others can
be very active without getting into troubles - and there definitely is also a
meditative way of being active, which has more to do with awareness/attention
than with rest vs. activity.

Of course, passivity vs. activity are just ideas and not found in reality,
anyway - where is this "you" supposed to be active or passive? :-)

P.S.
There's even a rumor that some Zen master had satori during an orgasm <grin>

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From: elascurn@daimi.aau.dk (Lars R{der Clausen)
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Subject: Re: List/Review of Books about TM and Ayurveda
Date: 13 Aug 92 09:21:55 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

rvenu@phoenix.sni-usa.com (Ramakrishnan Venugopal) writes:

>> Mr. Lars Clausen writes:
>>
>>I will, and I'll love and hate and sweat until I've lived so much I feel I've
>>tried enough. Then, and only then, will I get back to finding the 'inner
>>silence'. But until then, it's real life for me. Yipeee!

>What is this "real life" that is afraid of silence ?
>Remember, when a man is running, one of his feet remains at deep rest
>while the other is moving. If one feet does not remain at
>rest he will be falling, however much he tries to hurry.
>Silence (within) and (successful) activity (without) go together.

My god, please don't make me laugh so hard! Whenever I listen to what people
recommending TM say I am reminded of scratched LP's... Doesn't sound like they
learn to think for themselves. 
Anyway, I tried silence, and it didn't help my activity. Now I'm trying
activity, and it DOES help my activity. And I find it to be much more fun...
I'm doing thing I wouldn't have dreamt of doing when I was using TM, and I'm
enjoying every minute of it!

My thanks to Mark for an advice at the right time.

Yours, Lars Clausen

> 
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4 bits - a nybble 32 bits - a dinner |    Programmer  |  erogenous zone now?
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: pands@cix.compulink.co.uk (P & S Ltd - Accounts Dept)
Subject: Unix BBS information please
Reply-To: pands@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 11:48:00 +0000

I'm looking for a Unix BBS system,  and I know that there was a discussion
about such a thing a couple of months ago.  Could anyone out there make
recommendations please?

Thanks,

Paul

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From: shawn@marilyn.marilyn.mn.org (Shawn P. Stanley)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: Waffle 1.65 is available (details)
Date: 17 Aug 92 14:24:35 GMT
Organization: Litfal +1 612 929 5181

Is there a site I can download Waffle from at 9600 via v.32?
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: BBS Standards Committ
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site - 219-289-3745
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 12:48:54 GMT

davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:

>Even if there were 2 X more DOS multi-line systems, I doubt
>they would have as much power as a network of UNIX systems (and I
>mean hosts, not the users on those systems). 

I have to agree with Dave on this -- running DOS on a fast machine
that could easily run UNIX is a handicap -- of course, unless the
sysop doesn't want to learn UNIX.  A Unix BBS will have many more
options and features than a DOS BBS -- and Unix from the ground up
was designed to support multiple users.  

TBBS is limited -- TDBS is inflated and limited as well -- but 
due to TBBS's design, TDBS was their only option.   With a real
OS like UNIX, multiple users can be in real dbase, while another
in foxbase, while another runnning Word Perfect, while another
can be running TBBS under Merge (yes -- It does work -- at least
2.2 single line of which I have a licence for from way back)..


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From: v060p9rr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (SYS$LOGIN:SIGNATURE.TXT)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: 716 area code bbs for macintosh
Date: 22 Aug 92 10:09:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	I would like a listing of BBs's in the Buffalo area that support 
the Mac.  Thanks.


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