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From: music@moravian.edu (Steve Heller)
Subject: Re: Yuengling
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 13:24:44 EDT

In <90439@netnews.upenn.edu> brewer@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (James P. Brewer) writes:


>Could anyone out there with a trained palette give me a critique of any of the
>Yuenglng Brewery's products (Porter, Chesterfield, Beer, Lager).  I kind of
>like the porter, and it's dirt cheap here.  I just wondered (since I know
>nothing about beer beyond the average Joe's knowledge) what a trained palette
>might detect in the Yuengling family's brews.

Since I live not too far from the Yuengling brewery, I have good
access to it at good prices. I find the Celebrated Pottsville Porter
to be one of the best dry porters around, and it's priced at $11/24 if
purchased by the case of refillable bottles, which is a great price.
It has a dry roasted quality with rich flavor and body but is slightly
less alcohol and calories than their Premium, which is in the general
style of national premium beers like Budmilloors, but IMHO is better
tasting than any of them, with a slight spicyness (clove?) and full
body. At $10 for a case of 24 16oz refillable bottles, it is one of
the best beer deals in PA (possibly the whole country!). Their Amber
Lager is a little higher in price, and is not bad, but I don't
consider it significantly better than their premium, nor is it
available in refillable bottles (so isn't worth $3-4 more per case).
Probably my least favorite Yuengling product is the Lord Chesterfield
Ale. Maybe it's me, but I really don't like ales that aren't of
highest calibre. Anchor Liberty, Fuller's ESB, etc. are superb, but
the local version brewed by Yuengling is just not much to write home
about...
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Subject: Re: Australian beer
From: imf@datamark.co.nz (Ian Franklin)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 01:04:33 GMT
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.

In article <1a3aigINNeac@bigboote.WPI.EDU> cappy@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Rich Capistran) writes:
>Cheers Fellow Beer Lovers-
>
>       I visited London last fall and it was there that I found Castlemain
>e XXXX.  I was just wondering if any of you out there have seen this beer

^^^^^^  -  This has got to be a sick joke :-)

>in the USA.  Secondly there was VB Victoria Bitter which was also pretty
>good.  Any information leading to the purchase of these beers int the
>United States will be greatly appreciated.
>

VB is the better of these two by along shot.
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From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Imports: Why the hell can't we figure i
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:25:09 GMT

In article 7675@wam.umd.edu, zedaker@next04wor.wam.umd.edu (Pamela Marie Weller) writes:
> In article <tjeerdsc.19.0@columbia.dsu.edu> tjeerdsc@columbia.dsu.edu  
> (CRAIG TJEERDSMA) writes:
> 
> 
> > But I`ve got to say that it sure is nice to sit
> > down with a 6 of Miller Genuine Draft glassers and drink some good  
> American
> > brew.
> > 
> > Down with ya later,
> > 
> > Craig
> 		WHY???!!!???
> 
> I neve drink that pee puke liquid that American's like to call beer.   
> There are exceptions of course: Old Heirick (sp?), Samuel Adams, etc.
> But there is nothing like sitting down with a good stout with a full body,  
> a real good head, and a nice smooth taste.
> {OH YEAH, I'm a female....am I the only one who drinks good beer?}
> 
> 			Pam



hi pam,

 no u arent.... miller is pee water from the hudson...
a like a good lager or ale myself ... 

did u ever DRINK-A-DINK .. dinkalacker ... not bad ..
as far as Samual Adams.. dont like the after taste ... 

 Steve C.

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From: dcb@rosedale.uucp (Dave Breneman)
Subject: Re: Beer Survey
Organization: The Spud Goodman Show
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 23:40:51 GMT

In article <92Sep29.020630.26413@acs.ucalgary.ca> quigley@acs.ucalgary.ca (Martyn Thomas Quigley) writes:
>(Mike 'Vogon' Margolis) writes:
>>Favorite Import: Any Spaten Beer except light (e.g. Oktoberfest, Dark, Club 
>                      ^^^^^^
>What does this term signify?  Recently I shared a brew with a friend 
>(German) and I pronounced this "schpaeten" as in "later", analogously
>to spatlese.  She was not impressed and pronounced it "schpatten"--which 
>my dictionary tells me refers to a spade.  What's the groose?
>

Well, *spaetlese" (ess, pee, ah-umlaut, tee, ell, ee, ess, ee) would
be pronounced (by a North American) SHPEHT-lay-zuh. (German double-E
is pronounced as "AY" in English - therefore the phonetic spelling
of the alphabet is almost identical in English or German for *that*
language.  Interesting, huh?)  Spaten (ess, pee, ah, tee, ee, en)
would be pronounced SHPAW-ten.  Don't fall into the Anglican trap of
thinking that those little dots over the vowels are just for
decoration :-) .  i.e., ae = a^H" = a-umlaut.  Prost.

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From: kenneth@leland.Stanford.EDU (Kunal Saurov Bagchi)
Subject: Non-alcoholic beer
Keywords: non-alcoholic beer
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 22:48:05 GMT

Someone asked about non-alcoholic beers.

The bar that I worked at served all kinds ( Cutter, Sharps, O'Douls, etc)
and no one seemed to think that anyone of them that that much different
from the rest. Sorry!

Ken


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From: rolls@cis.umassd.edu (Frank Pinto)
Subject: Bhrama Shoppe from Brazil
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 00:43:18 GMT

Has any one tried this delicious beer?

frank
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From: parsons@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Subject: Re: Cincinnati Beer
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:34:59 GMT

Sean.Smith@cs.cmu.edu writes:

>One of the big regional brewers makes a reinheitsgebot ``Christian
>Moerhleim'' (sp?) which I believe comes in two varieties.  

Neither of which is very good.  Even the dark is kinda a watery and lacking
in mouthfeel and general flavor and character.

>There's a blues bar called Cory's near the university campus that
>has this brew on tap...

	Maybe it's better that way :-)

-m.

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From: jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey)
Subject: Re: Young's Oatmeal Stout
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 18:04:45 GMT

In article <binkley.717522893@beagle> binkley@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Jon Binkley) writes:
>chris@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chris Casey) writes:
>
>>Got my first taste of Young's Oatmeal Stout last night.  Wow!  This stuff is 
>>great!!!  Are there any other similar that I should look into?  & it was
>>on tap,even....
>
>Samuel Smith's makes an Oatmeal Stout, but it is outrageously overpriced
>and no better than Young's.  If you try it, buy a single bottle- I've
>rarely seen six packs for less than $12.
>
>Two other widely available Sweet Stouts worth trying are Watney's
>Cream Stout and Mackeson's XXX Stout.
>

	Personally, I prefer Sam Smith's to Young's but that's just a 
question of taste.  But I have to take umbrage with your comment about it's
price--  I agree that it is overpriced, but in the places I've bought it, it
always seems to be about the same price as Youngs: $12-13 a six-pack.  I've
never noticed any appeciable difference in cost between the two.

	--  Jim C. <jchokey@leland.stanford.edu>
From: geiger@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (Ralph Geiger)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: best beer under $6
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:46:15 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina

A question for all:

What's the best beer available in the US for under $6 a six-pack?  I'm
looking for a good everyday brew.  By the way, I'm currently trapped in
Chapel Hill, NC, so please don't torture me with poetic descriptions of
micro-brewery products available only in Vermont or some such place!

Thanks.

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From: bill@bohemia.metronet.org (Bill Dixon)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Non-alcohol revisited
Summary: Posting some comments for a beer-buddy
Keywords: Non-alcoholic Beer
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:37:51 GMT
Organization: Bohemia BBS System


More non-alcoholic info from Greg.


From SGS3087@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu Sat Oct  3 18:22:00 1992
Return-Path: <SGS3087@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu>
Date: 03 Oct 1992 19:30:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: SGS3087@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
Subject: non-alkie
[path stuff deleted]

Hello,
  I do not have a way to post messages, so I was hoping to help you by contrib
uting, and also hoping that you could post this for me.
  First, possible ways to make non-alkie beer:
	Alcohol has a lower boiling point than water so it is possible they
boil it off in one of a few ways.  
 1. Since beer is often pasteurized, they might just boil it of with heat.
 2. They might might lower the pressure with a vacume pump, and "boil" the
    alcohol without heating it.
 3. They might introduce micro organisms/ enzymes which convert alcohol to
   some other substance.  Or introduce a substance that soaks up alcohol in
    particular (this is getting wild though).  
   Maybe a combination of low alkie yeast and one of the above.
	This is particularly interesting to me, because I am interested in
brewing non-alkie beer, and I am not exactly sure how to go about it.  If 
you have any suggestions please send to:
      SGS3087@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
                                  Thanks,
				    GREG STROUD

			-sorry it took so long, Greg

					-bill
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From: asimeone@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (antonio simeone)
Subject: Black and  Tans!
Summary: how do i do it? 
Keywords: help me!
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 02:21:47 GMT

Quick, somebody please tell me how to pour a black and tan where the
beers are separated!  i just tried it and they mixed.
can anyone help me???????? 


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From: dcb@rosedale.uucp (Dave Breneman)
Subject: Re: Date Encoding
Organization: The Spud Goodman Show
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 22:49:16 GMT

In article <Bv3Ayz.MsD@wrs.com> gak@wrs.com writes:
>Budweiser and their label notches, Sierra Nevada with theirs (which you
>need a Captain Video Decoder Card to decipher), Anchor's three-character
>DOS-filename code...
>
>What the hell's wrong with a year/month/day stamp on the label?  Do
>they have that much to hide?
>

Lucky used to stamp the date on the neck label, such as "Jun 12, 34"
for June 12th, 1934 and their bottles bore some proclamation about
"date-stamped to ensure freshness", or something like that (I'm too
lazy to go dig out the bottle :-)  ).  You know what happened?
John Q. Berr-guzzling-public thought that good beer was aged like
good wine, and wouldn't buy that "green" stuff.  Lucky Lager went
from being the most popular beer west of the Mississippi (or was that
the Rockies?) in the 1930's to being the darling of the economy
section it is today.  They, do, however, still print the bottling
date on the bottom of the cases in YYMMDD format.

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From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Re: Anhor Steam on prime time
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:24:15 GMT

I've never watched the show, but I've heard that "Northern Exposure"
goes out of their way to surreptitiously promote microbrewed beers.
Look for Pyramid Ale in particular.

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From: parsons@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Subject: Re: Brews from Pennsylvania?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:35:45 GMT

jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey) writes:


>	Also, isn't Genesse cream ale brewed in PA as well?

	Nope.  Upstate New York.
-m.
From: jpaul@locus.com (James Hensley)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: oktoberfest
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:54:22 GMT
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California


Try EKU oktoberfest.  Truly delicious!  WAY malty.
And it has a picture of a drunken-looking burgermeister on the carton, too
(nice touch).  Only problem is it's about $9.00 a sixer in CA.

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From: jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins)
Subject: Re: Imports: Why the hell can't we figure it out?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:03:45 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.165645.7675@wam.umd.edu> zedaker@next04wor.wam.umd.edu (Pa
mela Marie Weller) writes:
>
>I neve drink that pee puke liquid that American's like to call beer.
>There are exceptions of course: Old Heirick (sp?), Samuel Adams, etc.
>But there is nothing like sitting down with a good stout with a full body,
>a real good head, and a nice smooth taste.
>{OH YEAH, I'm a female....am I the only one who drinks good beer?}
>
>              Pam

There are certain times when men and women like to pound a
few beers, on a cost effective basis.  Sure, Samuel Adams tastes
better than the typical American beer; there are times when the
typical beer is good enough.  There is a place for cheap American
beer in a beer-drinking society.

               Jim
From: plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Brews from Pennsylvania?
Date: 30 Sep 1992 17:43:21 GMT
Organization: Brown University Planetary Geology
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In article <92274.114120JJS158@psuvm.psu.edu> JJS158@psuvm.psu.edu (JJ Serowik) writes:
>      I need a little help.  How 'bout a list of beers made in Pennsylvania.
>I know of Yuengling, Rolling Rock, Iron City, Straub and ?  How 'bout
>a little help.  I want to try them all, but I don't know of all of them.

   Don't forget Samuel Adams (at least the lager is brewed there, and
perhaps the stock ale), all the Hope products, and other contract brews.
--
Joel Plutchak, Research Programmer/Analyst
From: glowe@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Glen H. Lowe)
Subject: Re: Catt's Quote
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Reply-To: glowe@ics.uci.edu (Glen H. Lowe)
Organization: U.C. Irvine - Information and Computer Science
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:50:03 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.022407.18271@starbase.trincoll.edu> (The Catt) writes:
>Beer tastes like piss.

Only when you drink the cheap stuff. =)
From: v057p7nk@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Andrew W Korbut)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Golden Pheasant
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:58:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

A friend of a friend is bringing me back a 6 of this beer from Europe.  I
believe it is a Czech pilsner-style beer.  Does anyone know how this
compares to stuff that I have tried from Czechoslovakia like Pilsner Urquell?
The anticipation is killing me...

 Dr.D [The Devils Advocate]        "Drinkin' & women & guns don't mix..."
 v057p7nk@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
 awkorbut@acsu.buffalo.edu                      - Mark Arm
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From: bryanh@dseg.ti.com (Bryan Hazel)
Subject: Re: Catt's Quote
Reply-To: bryanh@dseg.ti.com
Organization: Just Me
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:26:22 GMT

In article 18271@starbase.trincoll.edu,  (The Catt) writes:
>Beer tastes like piss.


And you can take that from a long time piss drinker like this idiot.

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From: klovatt@klnet.r-node.gts.org (Keith Lovatt)
Subject: Re: Favorite Beer (VB...Not!)
Organization: Lugroid Enterprises
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:55:19 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

ech@ac.dal.ca writes:
: In article <10692851.57.717316736@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au>, 10692851@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (DAVIN SLADE) writes:
: > Obviously none of you have ever drunk VB.
: > Victoria Bitter that is.
: > The one in the green can.
: > The beer that a whole week at our university is devoted to.
: > It is made by CUB, you know the makers of fosters.
: > 
: > Well send to Australia for some because once you have had it you will never
: > drink your weak European and American shit again.
: > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: > DAVIN SLADE 10692851@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au 3rd Year Civil Engineering
: >             cis612xc3@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au     Monash University
: >             baldrick@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au      Australia
: > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: > "Dunstall, Bang, Goal, Yibidi yibida, That is all!"  Rex Hunt  circa 1992
: 
: 
: 	I've had VB.  It's all right I suppose. But really, NOTHING that
: comes in a can could possibly compare to a fine draft Real Ale, such as
: Adnams or Hooknorton, or microbrewed North American beer, like Sam Adams,
: or especially St. Ambroise...
: 	I'm sorry, but VB doesn't even stand up against your neighbour's
: excellent Steinlager, which at least is in bottles.
: 	Ed
:  

VB - mmm. That's the first beer that ever made me sick. As for Steinlager - 
well I'm a Kiwi, but even I won't drink that syrop. I wouldn't frink it while I
lived in NZ, and for sure I won't pay three times its worth to drink here.
Give me something with flavour and not too much sugar anytime.

I actually like Sam Adams - it's the best NA beer I have sampled (repeatedly).

Keith.
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From: martini@heaven7.in-berlin.de (Martin P. Ibert)
Subject: Re: Beer Survey
X-Reason: This message has been reposted because of configuration errors at heaven7.in-berlin.de.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:36:37 GMT
Organization: The Seventh Heaven, Berlin, Germany

quigley@acs.ucalgary.ca (Martyn Thomas Quigley) writes:
> (Mike 'Vogon' Margolis) writes:
> >Favorite Import: Any Spaten Beer except light (e.g. Oktoberfest, Dark, Club 
>                       ^^^^^^
> What does this term signify?  Recently I shared a brew with a friend 
> (German) and I pronounced this "schpaeten" as in "later", analogously
> to spatlese.  She was not impressed and pronounced it "schpatten"--which 
> my dictionary tells me refers to a spade.  What's the groose?

Okay, I'll guide you through this. First, it's a German word and thus
difficult to pronounce. The first letter should be expanded to a "sh" sound
(because it is followed by a p, which is pronounced almost, but not exactly,
like an English p is). The a is a long a, as found in the word "father".
The rest of the word should be pronounced as the stand-alone English word
is. So you get something like SHPAHTEN. And yes, it is the German word for
spade. This is a variation of "Spaeth", the name of one of the first owners.

BTW, the sound in "Sptlese" (with an a-umlaut) is completely different from
the sound in "later".
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From: vvdag@alliant1.lerc.nasa.gov (Don Georgevich)
Subject: Home Brew
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:21:12 GMT

I know this has been a topic of discussion many times before on this group,
but I would like to rekindle some of those ideas on  HOME BREW.

I would like to get started with the process and have only found one kit
called TRUE BREW for $59.95.  Is this a good kit or should I keep looking
for something else?  There was not much to it, just a big white bucket, hose,
manual, bottle capper and ingredients.  Would I be better off by bying a manual
on home brew and the ingredients separately and use my own bucket?  Would
an oak bucket or barrel be better to use than a plastic one?

Please email your advice.

thanks

-don
From: casey@lexmark.com (Patrick Casey)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Anhor Steam on prime time
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:13:32 GMT
Reply-To: pacasey@lexmark.com
Organization: Lexmark International, Lexington KY
X-Disclaimer: These views are the poster's and not necessarily those of Lexmark

In article <BvCovC.CMD@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> schuyler@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Schuyler Stultz) writes:

   I was watching the season premier (sp?) of Northern Exposure last
   night when something caught my eye.  It was the scene where Maurice
   was talking to Holling at the bar.  Holling was standing in front of the
   beer taps.  As I looked closer, I realized one of the taps was for 
   Anchor Steam Beer.  Does anyone know if this was intentional?
   Or did whichever bar they tape the show in just have Anchor Steam on tap?
   N.E. is taped in Washington state so either possibility is likely.
   Thanks for any responses.


I noticed this, too.  Also, in the episode from last season where Joel
thinks the ghost is after him (the ghost of the guy who used to live
in his cabin and committed suicide), he's shown drinking a bottle of
Anchor Steam, while talking to Ed.

Patrick
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From: plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Beer Survey
Date: 29 Sep 1992 14:34:08 GMT
Organization: Brown University Planetary Geology
NNTP-Posting-Host: pilsner.geo.brown.edu

In article <92Sep29.020630.26413@acs.ucalgary.ca> quigley@acs.ucalgary.ca (Martyn Thomas Quigley) writes:
>(Mike 'Vogon' Margolis) writes:
>What does this term signify?  Recently I shared a brew with a friend 
>(German) and I pronounced this "schpaeten" as in "later", analogously
>to spatlese.  She was not impressed and pronounced it "schpatten"--which 
>my dictionary tells me refers to a spade.  What's the groose?

   I'm sure a "real" German could answer better, but what the heck.

   Take a look at the label next time you're enjoying a Spaten (an
Oktoberfest I trust, this time of year).  Chances are fairly good
you'll see a spade.  That's probably why they named it "Spaten"--
'cause they found a spade on the label.  As for spatlese, I believe
the "a" has an umlaut (where's my international keyboard when I need
it?), which is why it has the long "a" sound, rather than the short
"a" sound of "Spaten".

   Now, exactly *why* is Kirin beer so named, and what *is* that beast
on the label? :-)
--
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