HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gsm@gsmmac.ctd.ORNL.GOV (Gregory S. McNeilly)
Subject:  Re: Mouse Systems A-3 Mouse and A/UX 3.0
Reply-To: gsm@ornl.gov
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:18:27 GMT

As promised last week, here is the resolution of the subject issue.  The A-3 mouse works as
advertised with A/UX, if the mouse is not broken.  The second mouse shipped by MacConnection
(high marks for customer service here...), works nominally.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: Dialup processes surviving dropped carrier. How?
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:22:32 GMT

jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski) writes:

>rns@ausom.oz.au (Ross Sheehy) writes:

>>My system has four dialup lines which, most of the time,
>>function perfectly.  Every so often, however, someone will
>>experience a dropped carrier but will neither be logged out
>>nor have any of their processes killed.

>>My understanding of Unix says that the login shell etc ought
>>to be killed when the carrier is dropped unless the user has
>>taken action to prevent it (via nohup or whatever it is).

>>Can anybody shed any light on what might be happening?

>The serial connection _must_ have CD-detection wired correctly. Also,
>the HUPCL flag should be set in /etc/gettydefs

>From the FAQ:

Please note that the stuff about HDB UUCP doesn't apply to you since you are
running 2.0.1.
-- 
    Jim Jagielski               | "It is not I who am crazy...
    jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov   |  it is I who am MAD!"
    NASA/GSFC, Code 734.4       |
    Greenbelt, MD 20771         |            - Ren
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: A/UX Question
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:13:52 GMT

jcraig@access.digex.com (Joseph N. Craig) writes:

>We are considering putting A/UX on serveral existing Macs.  I'd appreciate
>hearing any comments about it.  Specifically: what is the minimum configur-
>ation needed -- machine, memory, disk, etc.?  What is performance like? The
>current Macworld says A/UX is slow.

>Any comments appreciated!

Tomorrow I will be posting the FAQ for A/UX... It will answer many of your
questions.

As far as speed is concerned, it depends on your platform. As we all know,
benchmarks don't tell the whole story but a 9-14 SPECmark rating is about
where the Q950 runs.
-- 
    Jim Jagielski               | "It is not I who am crazy...
    jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov   |  it is I who am MAD!"
    NASA/GSFC, Code 734.4       |
    Greenbelt, MD 20771         |            - Ren
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: rhs@world.std.com (Richard H Schwartz)
Subject: Re: A/UX Question
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:48:32 GMT

halpin@vsg1.dsg.dec.com (Stephen E. Halpin) writes:

>>With the recent price cuts, a fully capable IIsi with A/UX software should
>>come in just under or around $3,000.  For that price, you can probably
>>get a 486/33 that will be much faster, so while I disagree with the tone
>>of the post, I reluctantly agree that the 486 route is more economical for
>>those who don't have a heavy investment in Mac software.

>You havent added up the cost of a version of UNIX with all the add on
>packages yet!  I havent checked prices in a while, but you could tie
>up $2,500 to get SCO UNIX with Berkeley networking, NFS, development
>and text processing tools, etc...  

At SCO pricing, Macs look very nice compared to 486s.  But I just opened my
latest Byte to the first ad I could find for a 486/33: $2092 for an SVGA 8MB/
200MB 256k cache machine; and the latest Unix World shows the commercial 
version of 386/BSD for $999 (including networking, X11R5, and development kit),
bringing the total to $3091, not too far off from what I speculated.  Prices
for Esix and MST Unix come out even lower, and that first hardware ad I 
found is unlikely to be the best avaialable deal.  'Course I can't say that
all these separate parts will work together... it often takes serious research
to put together your own x86 Unix machine.

-rich
-- 
             Richard H. Schwartz, Scheduling Systems Inc.,
            1000 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge, MA  02138
                  (617) 864 8330; FAX (617) 864 8377
                          rhs@world.std.com
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: A/UX / Color Display Compatibility
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:49:52 GMT

mr@delfin.com (Mark Rosenberg) writes:

>The FAQ and the 1/91 MacUser article both recommend proceeding with caution
>when considering 3rd party monitors for use with A/UX. Unfortunately, none
>of the dealers or pre-sales people at E-machines, RasterOps, etc. have done
>anything other than add to my confusion. My questions:

Of course, it's not the monitors per se that are incompatible, but the
NuBus controller cards... If used with Quadra or IIci on-board video, then
all "compatible" monitors work (i.e., if it works under MacOS, then it'll
work under A/UX).

>- Will A/UX support a 16" color display at 832x624 or even better 1024x768?
>  If so, any particular products to look for or avoid?

It depends... There's really nothing that limits A/UX other than the hardware
itself (you can't get 24 bits out of an 8bit card).

>- Is graphics performance degraded under A/UX? E-Machines said that the
>  A/UX display drivers are incompatible with the QuickDraw acceleration
>  on their interface cards. Is this true for all accelerated interface
>  cards - even Apple's?

Yep.

>- If I run A/UX on a Quadra 700 with all 2 MB of VRAM and use a 16" display,
>  what is the highest resolution available and how many color planes will
>  be available at that resolution?

Resolution depends on the monitor, but you get "millions" of colors.

>- The MacUser speaks of a compatability guide that is available from Apple.
>  Does it still exist? Is it kept current?

It's still around, but is _not_ held current... I believe you need to look
for the "Before You Install" file on ftp.apple.com under dts (somewhere)
for the HC stack.
-- 
    Jim Jagielski               | "It is not I who am crazy...
    jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov   |  it is I who am MAD!"
    NASA/GSFC, Code 734.4       |
    Greenbelt, MD 20771         |            - Ren
From: grif@ucrengr.ucr.edu (Michael Griffith)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: Mac vs. Sun
Keywords: aux sun unix
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:50:07 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside

In article <80458@ut-emx.uucp> ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd) writes:
>
>  This December, I am planning to get a decent UNIX box, but I am split
>between a Quadra 700 with A/UX 3.0 or a SparcStation.  Where could I
>find a comparison between the two systems?
>

I have used both A/UX on a Quadra 700 and SPARCstations.  A/UX is
a great product for those who want UNIX but already have a Mac.
However, I don't think that A/UX was ever intended as competition
for straight Unices.  If you only want UNIX go with a Sun (or other
vendor), as it will be much faster.  However, if you still need to use
your machine as a Mac, A/UX is the way to go.


						Michael A. Griffith
						grif@cs.ucr.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: Mouse Systems A-3 Mouse and A/UX 3.0
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:08:13 GMT

gsm@gsmmac.ctd.ORNL.GOV (Gregory S. McNeilly) writes:

>Following the FAQ, and since the Gravis mouse is out of production, I finally got the above, having
>tired of trying to make three buttons out of a one button MacMouse.  The manual has a number of
>warnings regarding using the supplied cdev - use only with MacOS.  For A/UX, just plug in and use.
> 
>After powering down and installing the mouse, I have found the mouse to be "compatible" with A/UX,
>in the sense that the system doesn't crash, but not too interesting - all three buttons act like the
>original one-button mouse.  I.e., no left and right arrow behavior from the second and third buttons.

>Mouse Systems tech support at ~12:30 PDT today was clueless - the person(s) talked to didn't even
>know what their own manual said about MacX and A/UX.

>I'm hoping someone can tell me how to get useful behavior with this device.

This is weird, since my A-3 mouse works just like it's supposed to; i.e.,
1st button is the "true" mouse button, middle is left arrow and right is
right arrow. This is, of course, _not_ having the 3-Button Power cdev
installed at all.

It's possible that you have a bad mouse... can you program the buttons
under the real MacOS?
-- 
    Jim Jagielski               | "It is not I who am crazy...
    jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov   |  it is I who am MAD!"
    NASA/GSFC, Code 734.4       |
    Greenbelt, MD 20771         |            - Ren
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux,comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jarthur@bnr.ca (John Thompson)
Subject: Re: SE/30 video card that works with A/UX 3.0?
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx.
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 19:02:27 GMT

I've used the Micron Xceed card with both a grayscale monitor and a color
monitor under A/UX 2.0.1 on my SE/30.  Works fine with the exception that
the system doesn't recognize the color capabilities under X11R4 EXCEPT when
using MacX, i.e., I can use twm, but only in black and white.  Haven't
spent much time trying, though.  Applications under MacOS work fine.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux,comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: johnston@me.udel.edu (Bill Johnston)
Subject: SE/30 video card that works with A/UX 3.0?
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 05:34:22 GMT

I'd like to find an SE/30 PDS 8-bit video card to use with A/UX 3.0.
Any info appreciated -- particularly a "yes" or "no" from someone
who has such a setup working.  I only need greyscale, so I'm 
hoping to run an Apple 12" monochrome with an 8-bit Micron Xceed.
(I'd like to buy used gear, so feel free to make a sales pitch.)

Post or e-mail;  I'll summarize ... thanks.  
-- 
-- Bill Johnston (johnston@me.udel.edu)
-- 38 Chambers Street; Newark, DE 19711; (302)368-1949
Xref: sparky comp.unix.aux:3615 comp.sys.mac.advocacy:624 comp.sys.next.advocacy:2424 comp.sys.sun.misc:4408
From: ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Sun/Next/Mac unix boxes
Summary: The best box
Date: 26 Sep 92 18:11:53 GMT
Reply-To: ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd)
Followup-To: comp.unix.aux
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: ifbb657@donald.cc.utexas.edu


  This is a followup to the post asking about Mac versus Sun for high-end
use.

  I forgot to consider NeXT for use.  How does a Q700 running A/UX compare
to a lower-end Sparc Sun compared to a high end NeXT?  I am interested
in crashworthiness, usability and security.

I am asking this even though I have been a Mac fanatic since the 128 came
out because I heard reports about A/UX 3.0 trashing the file system
after being up for a few hours.

Speed is secondary to a good OS that does not crash on a dime and give
fifty cents change.

Please E-mail to save bandwith.  I got my deflector shields on, so flame
away.  :-}

-- 
ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas R. Floyd)

MS-Windows NT:             (Insert standard disclaimer here)
                           
Another reason to leave
your computer turned off.
From: mhend@roch (Marissa Henderson)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Large Screen Monitors w/ A/UX 3.0
Keywords: Monitors
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:39:29 GMT
Reply-To: mhend@roch
Organization: Xerox


 I am considering a purchase of a large screen monitor.  I would prefer
 a 19 or 20 inch color, but I do not know which vendors have screens 
 and video cards compatible with A/UX 3.0.  I am also unsure of which
 video card would be best with System 7.X and QuickDraw GX (?), and
 which type 8-bit, 24-bit, etc.


 These are the current monitors/cards I am looking at, but I am open 
 to any suggestions/recommendations anyone has.


 SuperMatch 20
 Spectrum/24 Series III
 Spectrum/24 PDQ Plus

 Radius Precision Color Display 19
 RasterOps/20T Multimedia Color
 Radius Precision Color 24X
 RasterOps PaintBoard 24
 RasterOps 24XLi



Thanks in advance for any advice,


 Marissa Henderson
 Systems Analyst
 Xerox Corporation
 MHEND.ROCH@XEROX.COM
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: gsm@gsmmac.ctd.ORNL.GOV (Gregory S. McNeilly)
Subject: Re: Mouse Systems A-3 Mouse and A/UX 3.0
Reply-To: gsm@ornl.gov
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:19:48 GMT

Regarding my recent post of difficulties with the subject mouse:

The current hypothesis is that the mouse arrived broken.  MacConnection is shipping another mouse,
and I will report how it behaves.  Several private notes and posts have indicated no problems with
the mouse under A/UX.
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Gregory S. McNeilly ( gsm@ornl.gov )            ,---.
Oak Ridge National Laboratory                  o     \
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(615)574-5446 (FAX)576-3513                     \___/
From: time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: A/UX Question (performance)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 00:39:33 EST
Organization: ICE Engineering, Inc.
Reply-To: time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <BvD5q0.H2C@world.std.com> (comp.unix.aux), rhs@world.std.com (Richard H Schwartz) writes:
> Do kermit file transfers on a V.32 modem smell like a load?  I've been
> running 3.0 beta and now the general release for as long as I've had
> my 9MB IIsi.  This thing is no speed demon, but it is quite acceptable 
> for every purpose I've come up with so far.

If you put enough memory into a Macintosh, machines less than a IIfx
will perform reasonably well. Anyone used to doing significant work
and getting good performance will want a IIfx or better.

However, with 8Meg RAM in my IIx, and a fast drive, I was able to get work
done and do 9600 and 19200 communications.

> With the recent price cuts, a fully capable IIsi with A/UX software should
> come in just under or around $3,000.  For that price, you can probably
> get a 486/33 that will be much faster, so while I disagree with the tone
> of the post, I reluctantly agree that the 486 route is more economical for
> those who don't have a heavy investment in Mac software.

A fact. And the 486 architecture will have many more UNIXes to choose
from. However, I will take A/UX **ANYDAY**, even if it moves slower.
It works, has the critical elements, and its a Mac!!!


tim endres - time@ice.com  -or- tbomb!time
ICE Engineering, Inc - 8840 Main St, Whitmore Lake, MI 48189
Phone (313) 449 8288 - FAX (313) 449-9208
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: monk@monk.ctg.Tandem.com (Alfredo Moncayo)
Subject: E-Machines products & A/UX 3
Keywords: E-Mach, display, monitor
Reply-To: monk@monk.ctg.tandem.com
Organization: Tandem Computers, Inc.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:10:47 GMT

I have recently ordered an E-Machines T16II monitor and Futura LX video card
for use with an AppleShare server.  My machine has a RasterOps (16" trinitron)
monitor with an 8XLi video card.  I'm considering swapping the monitor and
card that I've ordered for the ones I'm currently using and am wondering if
anyone else has used either the T16II or Futura LX successfully with A/UX 3.

The reason for the swap is for me to be able to support 24 bit color at
1152x870 with System 7 and 8 bit color at the same resolution with A/UX 3 
running X11R5.

- AM
--
From: dswartz@sw.stratus.com (Dan Swartzendruber)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: A/UX SLIP dialer sources
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:20:37 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

Sigh, a little more investigation revealed that the files were created with
CR instead of NL.  Once I fixed this, everything looked much better.

-- 

Dan S.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: CommandShell under V3
From: denny@alisa.com (Bob Denny)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:05:35 GMT
Organization: Alisa Systems, Inc.

Well, I took the plunge and upgraded to V3.0 over the weekend. I have a
color 19" Radius display (8-bit), and the new CommandShell seems WAY
slower!!! I used to run 64 line windows, but now elm and nn (which use ANSI
escape sequences) take forever to update their lists. 

Is it my imagination, or is the "new improved CommTool flavor" CommandShell
a pig?

Also, on my home machine, I'm thinking of changing my video board from the
old Apple 8 bit color board to a RasterOps 8XL we have as a spare here.
Does anyone have experiance with it? Will it even work with A/UX?

_______________________________________________________________________________
Robert B. Denny                                           voice: (818) 792-9474
Alisa Systems, Inc.                                         fax: (818) 792-4068
Pasadena, CA                         (denny@alisa.com, ..uunet!alisa.com!denny)
Xref: sparky comp.unix.aux:3697 alt.cd-rom:3500
From: jason@cs.utexas.edu (Jason Martin Levitt)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux,alt.cd-rom
Subject: New NEC CDROM driver (Was Re: AU/X install and NEC CDR-74)
Followup-To: comp.unix.aux
Date: 6 Oct 1992 12:57:46 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <weihmayer-250992125518@132.197.14.21>, weihmayer@gte.com (Robert Weihmayer) writes:
> Some people have reported problems in installing AU/X 3.0
> using the NEC CDR-74 CD-ROM drive. I have received the new
> 2.25 driver for the CDR-74 which corrects a number
> of problems with mounting of PhotoCD, Spaceship Warlock, etc.
> [stuff deleted] 
>  ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>    Robert Weihmayer			             weihmayer@gte.com
> [stuff deleted]

   I've received the latest NEC CDROM driver, version 2.25. Unlike
the previous versions, this one works with Kodak's Photo CD software
on the Macintosh. I cannot get it to work with A/UX 3.0, however. 
   A/UX 3.0 installation starts from a booted floppy. The CDROM driver
on that floppy controls the CD. It is called "CDROM HACK". I replaced
that driver with the NEC driver and it started to install but failed
with:

+autorecovery
+launch -d -n -e (6,0,6)/unix 
+  slot info:
+   [9]  id = 0x33,  vers = 0x0
+   [10]  id = 0xffff,  vers = 0x0
+   [11]  id = 0xffff,  vers = 0x0
+   [12]  id = 0xffff,  vers = 0x0
+   [13]  id = 0x358,  vers = 0x0
+   [14]  id = 0xffff,  vers = 0x0
+  machine type = 20
+  flags = versioning
+  version = 1
+generic disk c6d0s6 Fatal Error: Logical block 1, physical block 1
+Open on '(6,0,6)/unix' failed
+Autorecovery failed.
+chroot
+chroot failed
+
+installer# 

    I had another disk already loaded with A/UX 3.0, so I put the
NEC CDROM driver in the Extensions folder on that disk and booted
A/UX to see if the CDROM would simply mount under A/UX. When I logged 
in as root, the CDROM kept accessing and returning
errors to the console. I had to reboot.

      ---jason   jason@cs.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: jdoyle@phy.umassd.edu (J.D.)
Subject: Help getting 4 mm DAT working with A/UX 3.0 ??
Summary: see keywords
Keywords: dat aux help my-brain-is-fried i-need-a-beer
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 03:29:48 GMT


	We were trying to setup a WangDAT on an Apple Q700 running A/UX 3.0
and have been running into ALOT of problems. After reading through the
Local System Administration book and taking their sage advice with failure,
a post to news was in order.

	We ALSO tried to backup a DEC 3100 (Ultrix 4.2) on the same network
as the Q700. This failed with permission errors, if someone could also
explain what is needed to be done to A/UX to allow remote networked machines
to rdump to the DAT drive that would also be helpful. By the way, the DAT
drive works perfectly on the DEC machine - so it isnt an issue of a fried
drive...


Here's a copy of the output from A/UX when we attempted to backup a local
and dismounted file system:

 
worf.root # df
/          /dev/dsk/c5d0s0        222222 blocks   87210 i-nodes
/usr2      /dev/dsk/c0d0s3       1205478 blocks  305081 i-nodes
/users     /dev/dsk/c4d0s3        354490 blocks  112948 i-nodes
worf.root # umount /users
worf.root # dump.bsd 0ubsf 16b 2000m /dev/rmt/tc2 /dev/rdsk/c4d0s3
  DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Sat Sep 26 17:24:16 1992
  DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
  DUMP: Dumping /dev/rdsk/c4d0s3 to /dev/rmt/tc2
  DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
  DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
  DUMP: estimated 51641 blocks on 0.00 tape(s).
  DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]
  DUMP: Tape write error 330 blocks (2 feet) into tape 1
  DUMP: NEEDS ATTENTION: Do you want to restart?: ("yes" or "no") yes
  DUMP: This tape will rewind.  After it is rewound,
  DUMP: replace the faulty tape with a new one;
  DUMP: this dump volume will be rewritten.
  DUMP: Tape rewinding
  DUMP: NEEDS ATTENTION: Is the new tape mounted and ready to go?: ("yes" or "no
") n
  DUMP: "Yes" or "No"?

  DUMP: NEEDS ATTENTION: Is the new tape mounted and ready to go?: ("yes" or "no
") no
  DUMP: NEEDS ATTENTION: Do you want to abort?: ("yes" or "no") yes
  DUMP: The ENTIRE dump is aborted.
worf.root #
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Finally, this is what the DEC machine had to say when we tried to rdump
one of its volumes: Note that we were logged in as root so permissions
on the DEC side of things shouldnt be the problem.


# df
Filesystem   Total    kbytes   kbytes   %
node         kbytes   used     free     used  Mounted on
/dev/rz1a      15343   10392    3417    75%   /
/dev/rz1g     227119  193255   11153    95%   /usr
/dev/rz4c     949540  614430  240156    72%   /usr2
/dev/rz3c     191367   90972   81259    53%   /usr/local
#  rdump 0uf worf:/dev/rmt/tc2n /dev/rrz4c
Permission denied.
#

===============================================================================
Jim Doyle 	(jdoyle@mdphya.phy.umassd.edu)
Univ. of Massachusetts at Dartmouth ; Physics/Astronomy Department
From: Ray_L_Curry@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: CD Roms and A/UX
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 15:52:22 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

I being one of the unfortunates that purchased an NEC before the news of
AUX incompatibility came up, noticed with some interest in discussions of
the new Kodak CD that Trantor has a CD driver that works with the Apple and
NEC drives.  I called them and they claimed their driver made the CD drives
work with the Kodak system and with AUX.  Has anyone tried it and if so, 
does it work?  And if it works with AUX, will it work with the installer?