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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:08:59 -0500
From:         Seth Gordon <sethg@SILVER.LCS.MIT.EDU>
Subject:      TTY noise?
              21 Jan 1993 16:52:01 GMT <9301211802.AA01728@silver.lcs.mit.edu>

Most TTY's that I've used have "acoustic couplers"--you put the phone
handset in those little rubber cups, and when you type, a speaker in
the TTY makes noise, so that the microphone in the telephone handset
can pick it up.  If the connection between the cups and the handset
isn't *very* tight, hearing people nearby will be able to hear the
noise.

It's a crude system, but it's guaranteed to work with any phone, even
in houses with ooooooold wiring systems, or pay phones where you can't
plug your TTY into the wires.

Some TTY's connect directly into the telephone wiring.  In my
experience, these TTY's don't make any auditory noise--they don't have
to.

Once upon a time, many ASCII modems had acoustic couplers, and their
hearing users could hear the screeeeeeeeech of the carrier tone as
they worked.  You don't see many of these modems around anymore.
--
I wish I could speak for my boss, but I'm not a Sign Language Interpreter.
seth gordon ... <sethg@silver.lcs.mit.edu> ... learning ctr 4 deaf children
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 06:52:08 -0500
From:         Bob Weinstock <RBWEINSTOCK@GALLUA.BITNET>
Subject: Re: TTY noise?

The TDI Newsletter is the quarterly publication of Telecommunications for
the Deaf, Inc., a national organization dedicated to enhancing electronic
communication options for deaf and hard of hearing people.  TDI is a major
player in TTY and text telephone technology, closed captioning, dual party
relay services, etc.  For more information, write to Alfred Sonnenstrahl,
Executive Director, Telecommunications for the Deaf, Inc., 8719 Colesville
Road, Suite 300, Silver Spring, MD 20910, or call 301-589-3006 TTY.
From: chrispy@hardy.u.washington.edu (Chris Prince)
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Subject: TTY noise?
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:52:01 GMT
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Okay, this may be stupid, but I must ask!

Why does a TTY/TDD make noise everytime you hit the keys?  Now this is a 
generalization, but most people that use a TTY/TDD are deaf (MOST! I said 
MOST!)  so why have the noise? 

I know that they are not like a ascii modem, but I turn off the sound on
my modem all they time....so why?  I don't get it?  Does it have to do 
with the way they connect?

Thanks:)
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Date: 25 Jan 93 00:15:52 CST
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:30:01 PST
From:         Ronald Mitchell <mitch@PLATO.DS.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Re: Space Rangers, Episode 2, Deaf Character/Deaf Actor?

        From: Angelique N Wahlstedt <pepper@SHELL.PORTAL.COM>


>       I didn't see that show, but that kinda reminds me of an episode of "Star
 Trek:
>       Next Generation" featuring a deaf meditator, which was played by Howard
>       Seago. Does anyone know anything about him? A book which covers the seri
es
>       mentioned that he is Deaf, but didn't give much information about him.

>       -- Angeli


Howie is presently in the Seattle area and is involved with a
theatrical production company called "Deaf Moose" with his brother
Billy Seago, also deaf.  Both Seagos are alumni of NTID.



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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:54:41 -0600
From:         Roy Miller <GE0013@SIUCVMB.BITNET>
Subject:      Partnerships 2000

Several people have asked for more information regarding the
upcoming conference in Dallas concerning employment of deaf and
hard of hearing people, so here are a few particulars:

Conference Title: Partnerships 2000: The First Mational Forum on
Employment of Deaf and Hard of Hearing People

Dates: March 17-19, 1993

Location: Doubletree Hotel at Lincoln Centre, Dallas, Texas

Sponsors Include: The National Association of the Deaf, Self Help for
Hard of Hearing People, Gallaudet University, National Technical Institute
for the Deaf, University of Arkansas Rehabilitation Research and Training
Center for Individuals Who are Deaf or Hard of hearing, Association of
Late-Deafened Adults, Telecommunications for the Deaf, Inc., Deaf Entrepeneurs
Council, National Hispanic Council of Deaf and Hard of Hearing Adults,
National Black Deaf Advocates, Deaf Women United, Council of State
Agencies for Vocational Rehabilitation, AT&T, Coca-Cola, National
Captioning Institute

Conference Hotel Rates: $89 Single
                        $99 Double

For room reservations, call the hotel directly at (214) 934-8400,
(800) 528-0444 (Voice), or (800) 528-9898 (TDD).  You must mention
that you will be attending the Partnerships 2000 Conference to get the
special hotel room rates.

Designated Conference Airlines: American Airlines.  Special fares
are available by calling (800) 433-1790 (Voice) or (800) 543-1586 (TDD).
To get the special rates mention the name of the conference and the
number SO533FS.

Conference Registration Fees:    Before 2/22          After 2/22
                               ---------------      --------------
         Business/Corporate     $300 / Person        $350 / Person
     Nonprofit Org/Consumer     $200 / Person        $250 / Person

For more information, contact Partnerships 2000, Conference Management
Unit, Gallaudet University, 800 Florida Avenue NE, Washington, DC
20002-3695.  Phone: (202) 651-5436 (Voice/TDD) or (202) 651-5723 (Fax).

-- Roy Miller
   Creator and Owner of DEAF-L
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:13:29 EST
From:         Paul Daniels <LND@NIHCU.BITNET>
Subject: Re: information on II Latin American Congress

> Dear friends,
> My name is Luiz Carlos SOUZA (Mr.). I am a post-graduate student at
> the Federal University of Rio de Janeiro (Linguistics). I have been
> studying Language and Deafness (Reading and Deafness) for 10 years.
> Preliminary information about the "II Latin American Congress on
> Bilingualism (Sign Language - Oral Language) for the Deaf"
> Period: from 12 to 17 September 1993.
> Place: Department of Linguistics and Filology - Faculty of Letters -
> Federal University of Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
> Call for papers: for further information please contact me:LCSOUZA@BRLNCC.
> President of the organizing committee: Prof. Dr. Lucinda FERREIRA BRITO (Mrs.)
> Address of the organizing committee for further information:
> Caixa Postal 16.285 - Largo do Machado - Rio de Janeiro - RJ
> CEP 22.222-970 - Brazil.
> I would like to know other lists. I have subscribed to this list DEAF-L and to
> SLLING-L.
>                                     Yours,
>                                Luiz Carlos SOUZA (Mr.)

Have you or those who organize this convention informed NAD (National
Assoc. of the Deaf) or AGB (Alexander G. Bell Assoc. of the Deaf)?
If not I strongly suggest you to send a flyer or brochere to their office
as they are widely regonized by many all over the world.
Good luck, Paul Daniels <LND@NIHCU.BITNET>
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:22:31 -0500
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From:         "STEVEN T. HARDY--GALLAUDET UNIVERSITY" <12SHARDY@GALLUA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: the new Gallaudet University Press 1993 Catalog

>Has anyone else received this new Gallaudet University Press (1993)
>catalog yet?  If so, send me email as I want to ask you a question
>about the catalog itself.  Also, does anyone have the new book called
>_No_Walls_of_Stone_, an anthology of literature and art by Deaf and
>Hard of Hearing contributors?  Or if you don't have it, have you seen
>it?  I also have a question about it.
>--
>Is it 10:53 yet?
>Esther Paris, Raytheon EDL, Marlborough, MA   esther@demand.ed.ray.com

Well Esther...I have not seen either the catalog nor do I have the book BUT ho
wever I am here at GAlly so it is reallllll easy for me to stroll on over to El
y Centre and look at either.  How can I help you???

Steve

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12SHARDY@GALLUA.BITNET                     macht mich starker
School Psychology Program
Gallaudet University
800 Florida Ave, NE                     202/651-5540 v/t
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:33:26 -0600
From:         /PN=JUDY.TINGLEY/O=DEAFTEK/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@SPRINT.COM
Subject: Re: TTY noise?

 <"CGJD-5615-8634/36"*/PN=JUDY.TINGLEY/O=DEAFTEK/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@sprint.com>

Well, in regard to placing TTY calls to deaf people when the phone is
answered voice first, most of today's TTY's have a voice announcer that
is easily activated to speak:  TDD caller, use your TDD.  That usually gets
the call moved into the right mode.  This eliminates hangups and/or the
need to have a separate phone there for such possibilities.
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Subject: Re: information on II Latin American Congress
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:34:01 GMT
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Dear friends,
Could you send me the following addresses?  The organizing committee of
the II Latin American Congress on Bilingualism (Oral Language - Sign
Language) for the Deaf would like to send them the preliminary announcement.
Deaf Life
Silent News
The Buff and Blue
Gallaudet Today
People at NTID and CSUN
NAD Broad Cast
AGB
Have they got E-mail or fax too?
                                Many thanks for your help,

Luiz Carlos SOUZA (Mr.)                E-mail: LCSOUZA@BRLNCC
Caixa Postal 16.285
Largo do Machado - Rio de Janeiro
CEp 22.222-970 - Brazil
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 09:49:35 -0600
From:         /PN=JUDY.TINGLEY/O=DEAFTEK/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@SPRINT.COM
Subject: Re: TTY noise?

 <"EGJD-5612-6374/36"*/PN=JUDY.TINGLEY/O=DEAFTEK/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@sprint.com>

I don't think anybody is all wet, just a little damp.  I take the reference
to the TDI Newsletter as meaning GA-SK, the quarterly newsletter published by
Telecommunications for the Deaf, Inc.  For those not familiar with TDI, they
publish a very handy, comprehensive international directory of TDD numbers...
most in the U.S.  Their address is 8719 Colesville Road, Suite 300, Silver
Spring, Maryland 20910.  Telephone +1 301 589 3006 TTY, 301 589 3786 Voice,
and 301 589 3797 fax.  Alfred Sonnenstrahl is Executive Director.
Judy Tingley
From: ecameron@orach.mrc.unm.edu
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Subject: Re:      sign language in library
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:47:40 GMT
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If you want to learn sign language, I'd say go for it.  It might
turn out that you will never use it at work, but you never know
when you will meet a person who also knows sign.  I never expected
to use sign language at my previous job in an architectural firm,
but as it ended up, we got a Deaf client and I was able to talk
with him!  If you loved the last class you took, there's a pretty
good chance that you'll love the next even more...

Later...

 

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From: fak9957@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (President Seth Green Fan Club)
Subject: Re: captioning
Reply-To: fak9957@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:49:57 GMT

In article <199301201334.AA01770@rayssd.ssd.ray.com>, "Esther A. Paris" <esther@RAYSSD.SSD.RAY.COM> writes:
>Re Captioning of Monty Python's Holy Grail movie in particular...
>
>It ain't captions and it ain't on line but you can buy the script
>in a bookstore.  I know because I got a copy for Christmas once.
>It has not only the entire script of the movie, but hysterical
>previous drafts of the script, lots of photos, and other goofy stuff.
>Any true fan has to have it.  Best regards, Esther Paris at
>Marlborough, MA --- Raytheon
>

As with so many rental movie on VHS, it isn't captioned because the company who
owns the distribution copyrights is either too cheap to pay for captions or
ignorant of the benefit of captions.  $200 to $500 or even $1000 to pay for
captioning is peanuts compared to the greatly expanded audience and expanded
profits the distributor will receive.  What people need to do is write to these
distributors (addresses on cassette or cassette box) and tell them to please
make efforts to closed-caption their rental videos.  Tell them that you know at
least 100 people who cannot rent this video because its contents are not
accessible without captions.  Even if they got 10 letters, that's 1000 rentals
they cannot profit from.  For those of us with word processors, you can just
keep a form letter in the computer and generate them as needed. If you don't
make your point with videocassette distributors about demanding captions, then
you have no right to complain that a video is not captioned.




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From:         "AL SONNENSTRAHL, TDI EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR" <ZZTDIAS@GALLUA.BITNET>
Subject: Re: information on II Latin American Congress

If you have 1993 TDI directo ull find most of these names listed are in
the book!
Good luck!
Sonny
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Subject: Re: information on II Latin American Congress
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:34:06 GMT
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      We are going to send the preliminary announcements of the II
Latin American Congress on Bilingualism (Oral Language - Sign Language)
for the Deaf to all nacional associations of the deaf throughout the
world. By the way, could you confirm the addresses for me, please?
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From:         "STEVEN T. HARDY--GALLAUDET UNIVERSITY" <12SHARDY@GALLUA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Apologies & help for a friend

>Hello all,
>
>I seem to be getting a number of people's backs up. Sorry. It appears I am
>making "hearies type" comments. Bare with me... I am still learning - this is
>all still new & wonderful to me.
>
>Next thing... One of my hearing friends (who will by then be married to his
>deaf fiance) is coming over to the USA sometime between the end of Feb and the
>first week in March. He would dearly like to visit Gallaudet University and see
>what tips and info he can pick up to bring back to this BACKWARD South Africa.
>
>Is there anyone there who would like (or be willing) to make contact with
>Stephen when he comes out, and just chat to him & show him the ropes.
>
>Unfortunately, his wife will not be with him. Remember, of course, that we use
>English Sign language, so if you sign ASL, you will have to sign S l o w l y.
>
>Hoping that someone wil respond. (Stephen is probably no as offensive as I am -
>luckily we are all different)
>
>Cheers,
>
>Jean Knaggs - South Africa

Hi there Jean!

        I would be honored to show your friend around here at Gally!
I am a "hearie" so communication issues should be non-existant (I hope!)
and in my third year here so I do know campus a little bit  :)

Also my girl friend happens to be from South Africa herself so I am sure that
she'd love to meet another fellow country person  :)

Contact me personally at GAllua.bitnet to discuss this further....

Steve


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12SHARDY@GALLUA.BITNET                     macht mich starker
School Psychology Program
Gallaudet University
800 Florida Ave, NE                     202/651-5540 v/t
Washington DC 20002                     202/651-5747 fax
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:19:07 EST
From:         Alecia Devantier <34L4PCN@CMUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      INTRODUCTION AND QUESTION

(**I tried this earlier and had some problems, please forgive any
   duplication of this message**)


Greetings-

I am new on Deaf-l , and I have a question for the masses, but I thought
I should introduce myself first.

My name is Alecia Devantier.  I am currently teaching math at Central
Michigan University to pay my tuition at Library School.  I am hoping for a
career as either an academic or public library reference librarian.
I am a hearie (with selective hearing).  I started to learn sign language
last semester, and I love it!!

Enough about me and onto my question.  I would like to learn more sign
language so that I can work (and communicate) with hearing impaired
patrons.  I think I would especially enjoy working as an interpreter
at childrens' storyhours.  I have expressed this interest to several
individuals, including practicing librarians and several faculty members.
The response has been pretty much the same, with most of these individuals
thinking that this would be a waste of time.

I would like to hear the opinions, comments, etc. of individuals on this

Have a GREAT day!
Alecia Devantier
34L4PCN@CMUVM
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From: pepper@shell.portal.com (Angelique N Wahlstedt)
Subject: Re: Fitting in (was: Teacher asks, etc.)
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 10:05:02 GMT

In article <DEAF-L%93012115310894@SIUCVMB.BITNET> David James <ALAMA10@HUMAIN.BITNET> writes:
>Angelique N Wahlstedt <pepper@SHELL.PORTAL.COM>:

>Angeli, would you be willing to tell me and the list a little more
>about what you mean when you say you "don't quite fit in the 'hearie'
>world"?
>
>I've been (or at least felt like) a misfit at times, but it's never
>seemed to have anything to do with my deafness. The world is a huge
>and diverse place, after all, and precious few people (hearing or
>deaf) fit in _everywhere_.

Sigh...that article I'd posted sure prompted more replies (both public and
private email) than I had expected. But I'll try to explain...

I'm not saying that I'm a miscast or anything...it's just that because I
can't read lips or speak very well, I can't participate fully in the
hearing world. (I imagine that I still wouldn't be able to, even if I
*culd* read lips.) I don't see hearing people as "THEMN" (as in "us versus
"THEM"), though I have known many deaf people with that viewpoint.

But yea, you're right...it *is* a diverse world. I would have to describe
myself as a "cyberperson" more than anything, one who participates in
a cyberspace. That's how I usually meet many friends (and boyfriends) --
over the modem.


--
Angeli "Ms. Pepper" Wahlstedt (pepper@shell.portal.com)

"If nobody else was violent, I could conquer the whole stupid planet with
just a butter knife." - Dogbert
From: jk@uctvax.uct.ac.za
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Subject: Apologies & help for a friend
Date: 25 Jan 93 10:10:18 +0200
Organization: University of Cape Town

Hello all,

I seem to be getting a number of people's backs up. Sorry. It appears I am
making "hearies type" comments. Bare with me... I am still learning - this is
all still new & wonderful to me.

Next thing... One of my hearing friends (who will by then be married to his
deaf fiance) is coming over to the USA sometime between the end of Feb and the
first week in March. He would dearly like to visit Gallaudet University and see
what tips and info he can pick up to bring back to this BACKWARD South Africa.

Is there anyone there who would like (or be willing) to make contact with
Stephen when he comes out, and just chat to him & show him the ropes. 

Unfortunately, his wife will not be with him. Remember, of course, that we use
English Sign language, so if you sign ASL, you will have to sign S l o w l y.

Hoping that someone wil respond. (Stephen is probably no as offensive as I am -
luckily we are all different)

Cheers,

Jean Knaggs - South Africa

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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:47:44 -0800
From:         Chris Prince <chrispy@HARDY.U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject: Re: TTY noise?

I think you are all wet! Because I'm really confused? Whats TDI Newsletter?

?:)      <-----confuse smilie!

Chris:)
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