HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kap@eng.cam.ac.uk (Kevin A. Price)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Re: I-CHING (Chinese Astrology)
Date: 14 Sep 92 11:59:47 GMT
Organization: cam.eng

u8902989@cs.uow.edu.au (Chung Ming Liu) writes:

>I'm doing this posting for my father, his has been researching in the chinese
>astrology method of I-CHING for quite some time, and would like to know does
>anyone out there share the same interest in I-CHING.



>Chung Ming Liu (Samuel)
>University of Wolllongong, Australia.
>u8902989@cs.uow.edu.au

Yeah, I've been using the I-Ching for the past month, and it's aided me
a lot.

Kev
e-mail kap@eng.cam.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: bulmer@hilbert.cc.utas.edu.au (Michael R. Bulmer)
Subject: astrological fonts available for ftp
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 03:14:35 GMT


I have just uploaded some astrological fonts for ftping on the file server
hilbert.maths.utas.edu.au (131.217.60.1) in the directory pub/astrology/fonts.

Login as 'anonymous' and give your email address as password.

6ttfont.zip contains six TrueType fonts for MS Windows, one of which,
    Astro-SemiBold, has symbols for all of the planets, signs, aspects, etc.
    The remaining five fonts aren't astrological but are quite nice.
    Download as binary and use unzip to access. (These fonts are available
    at other sites too).

Astro-SemiBold.hqx has the above font which I've converted into a Macintosh
    TrueType font. Download as ascii text and use BinHex to access.

astrofonts.tar.Z contains several Metafont files for use with TeX, LaTeX,
    etc., sent to me by Lars Alexandersson <larsa@math.chalmers.se>.
    A little TeX and Metafont experience is needed to use these but they
    are very nice. Download as binary, 'uncompress', and use tar to get
    the files.

Happy fonting,

Michael.

--
Michael Bulmer                              'I can't believe it...
Department of Mathematics                    You've actually found a
University of Tasmania at Hobart             practical use for geometry.' 
bulmer@hilbert.maths.utas.edu.au                - Bart
From: vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Re: Anyone having trouble with Astrolog.zip?
Date: 12 Sep 92 02:40:13 EDT

In article <1992Sep11.154136.17904@wam.umd.edu>, joanna@wam.umd.edu (Joanna) writes:
> Hi...I was wondering if anyone has had trouble ftping astrolog.zip and
> transferring it to their computers.  I'm having the hardest time.  When I
> tried to unzip the file, I got a message that said it couldn't create
> the image/file...Does this mean that I missed part of the file when I was
> transferring it?!?!?!?!
> 
> Help.
> Joanna.
> 
> 
> 

I am the one who posted astrolog.zip to the ftp site. Is it corrupted?
Shoud I repost it? Did you download using binary format? Are you
using a DOS machine to do it?

-Garrett

Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: CSMSETS@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (CSMSETS)
Subject: Re: A3 Colour natal charts
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:31:06 PDT

In article <1992Sep4.131134.14909@eng.cam.ac.uk>, on 4 Sep 92 13:11:34 GMT,
kap@eng.cam.ac.uk (Kevin A. Price) writes:

>
>Hi,
>
>I'm seriously considering writing a AstroLog-to-HPGL (Hewlett Packard
>Graphics Language) to be able to plot A3 colour natal charts. This
>will (should?) be able to take the positions output from AstroLog and
>produce an HPGL plot file which can then be directed to an HPGL
>compatible plotter.
>
>I'd be everso grateful for any pointers, hints, ideas, existing source-code,
>etc, etc.....?
>
>Thanks in advance..
>
>Kev
>e-mail kap@eng.cam.ac.uk
>

Kevin,
   I took the easy way out. I ported it to do the X-windows graphics
on my Mac II and I do a print screen to my HP DeskWriter-C and get
some real nice looking colour plots.
     --Ed
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: "jim kane" <jim.kane@canrem.com>
Subject: skeptics (yawn...)
Reply-To: "jim kane" <jim.kane@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 15 Sep 92 08:33:45 EST

GC>        Greetings all. I am new to this newsgroup, and I am surprised to
GC>find so many messages devoted to such a thoroughly discredited
GC>superstition as astrology.

   Well, your new to this group and you are surpized that people post to
   such a discredited superstition.

   I guess we are all as assinine as you are. Why did *you* (who knows
   nothing about astrology) bother posting. In fact, why did you even
   *bother* checking out the newsgroup. *Boredom*, correct ?

   The short time (2 months) I have been on this base I cannot believe
   the amount of "skeptics" (read: people who know nothing about a
   subject but feel qualified to pass judgement on it) who post the same
   drivel. (see below)

GC>1) How do you claim to account for the fact that the sun spends 3 weeks in
GC>the constellation of Ophiuchus each year, which is not considered by
GC>astrologers, compared to just 8 days in Scorpius, which is? Does a person
GC>born in the first 3 weeks of december not have a personality?

   The 3 weeks the Sun spends in Ophiuchus are part of its annual
   holidays, and so not counted in the calendar. Once the Sun has rested
   and frolicked in the water it again resumes its journey across the
   skies. :^)

   Do yourself and everybody here a favour and do some reading on the
   subject. The only thing that is thoroughly being discredited is your
   grasp on the subject.

   BTW, would any astrologers here be interested in a discussion on.....
   anything, lets say, the effect of Uranus & Neptune in Capricorn (
   conjuncting my Sun/Midheaven) on society, or Pluto in Scorpio (hey!
   some juicy material here) sextiling Uranus/Neptune.

   Please, some intelligent conversation!
---
  SLMR 2.0  ..I couda had religion, but may baby woudnt let me pray..
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario, Canadas
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From:  sashazh@face.msk.su
Subject: MATHEMATICAL MODELS OF ASTROLOGICAL TIME
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 18:17:21 GMT
Reply-To: sashazh@face.msk.su
Organization: unknown

     The work may be interesting for:
     1. Phisicists, occupated with substantiation of astrology
and parapsychology phenomenons.
     2. Astrologists,   occupated   with  conceptual  basis  of
astrology.
     3. Psychologists,    engaged    in    the   problems   of
transpersonal psychology and for cognitive psychologists.
     
==============================================================
     
         THE MATHEMATICAL MODELS OF ASTROLOGICAL TIME
     
                        Mkhitaryan K.
                     sashazh@face.msk.su
     
     This work deals with conceptual basies of  astrology  and
studies possibility of construction the mathematical models of
astrological time  (chronological  structure  of   object   in
astrology). Ij  the  article  it  is 4 essential signs,  which
distinguish astrological time from physical time:
     1. MULTIDIMENTION   OF   ASTROLOGICAL   TIME.  We  regard
astrological time   as   multidimentional   space   in   which
independently moving    progressions   and   directions   (the
predicative procedures   in   astrology)   to   separate   the
singledimention structure  of  astrological time like physical
time.
     2. CREATIVE.  For  appointed  class of objects select the
moment of time interpretated as "moment of birth"  of  object.
The correlation the moment of birth with location generate the
natal chart (chronological or chronocholistical structure)  of
object.
     3. INGRESSIVE.  The astrological object make  discretical
transition from  the  condition  of  astrological  reality  to
another one (the events realized in  accordingto  astrological
aspects (and  ingessive)  during constant changing of physical
time.
     4. HOLOTHROPIC. The different intervals astrological time
become similar to each other.  through symbolic  changing  the
scale of time.
     The mathematical   models   of   the    generation    the
astrological time  of  human reality were based on holographic
conception of Bohm-Prybram-Grof is given.
     The main  hypothesis  in  the  work  is  so that complete
"matter of observation" subjective  reality  (the  reality  of
events is  presepted  by  human being) is Furie-transformation
from complete phisical "matter of observation". The work has a
formulas, which  interpretated as formal basis for progressive
and directive evolvents of time into natal chart.
     
     Bibliography consist of 6 names.
     
     The complete  text  of  the  article  was  published   in
"Russian Astrological Journal", Moscow, 1991, #1.
     The text is available by request: sashazh@face.msk.su.
-- 

Sincerely yours,      Alexander ZHUIKOV
                      sashazh@face.msk.su
From: dmm@worf.harvard.edu (David Meleedy)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: daylight savings confusion
Date: 4 Sep 92 23:43:42 GMT
Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory

I am a bit confused about how to figure out whether or not to add an hour
to my birth time due to daylight savings time.  So my question is two-fold.

1) How in general do you find this out?

2) Should I add 1 hour to my birth time?  My birth date is 21 Oct 1966?


Please respond to me via email as I do not regularly read this group.

Thanks,
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From:  sashazh@face.msk.su
Subject: SCIENTIFIC MODELS OF REALITY
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 18:18:48 GMT
Reply-To: sashazh@face.msk.su
Organization: unknown

 COMPATIBILITY OF ASTROLOGY AND SCIENTIFIC MODELS OF REALITY
     
                  Mkhitaryan K., Izraitel B.
                     sashazh@face.msk.su
     
     The article  deals  with  totality  new  model of reality
according to with observer percepts synchronically two matters
- complete  physical  "matter  of  observation"  and so called
"mantic matter   of    observation".    Both    matters    are
transformations of  same  function F,  describing the state of
objective reality.  The model make it  possible  to  construct
such realities  in  which in addition to fulfilment of natural
lows predictive  methods  of  astrology  become  valid.  These
methods based  on  the  transition  from "object - phenomenon"
being under investigation  to  more  sutable  for  observation
"object -  indicator"  and also from real time to symbolically
changed time scale.  In the suggested model  of  reality  such
astrology techniques  as  progressions (symbolical compression
and stretching of time scale) and  directions  (revolvings  of
natal charts around the axis like solid body) are valid.
     The article explains the phenomenon of directive times in
astrology.
     The developments may be interesting for:
     1. Mathematicians  and  physicists  examing new models of
space/time continuum.
     2. Psychologists  engaged  in the problem of constraction
of inner reality by human being.
     3. Astrologists  occupied  with fundamentals of astrology
and its compartibility with science.
     
     Bibliography consist of 6 names.
     
     The complete text of the article is available by request:
     sashazh@face.msk.su.
     
-- 

Sincerely yours,      Alexander ZHUIKOV
                      sashazh@face.msk.su
From: kkirksey@world.std.com (Ken B Kirksey)
Subject: Sterilng's Faux Pas
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 03:14:12 GMT

>         We're already leaving some impressive gifts for the remote
> future of this planet. Namely nuclear wastes. We're going to be
> neatly archiving this repulsive trash in concrete and salt mines and
> fused glass canisters, for tens of thousands of years. Imagine the
> pleasure of discovering one of these nice radioactive time-bombs six
> thousand years from now. Imagine the joy of dedicated archeologists
> burrowing into one of these twentieth-century pharoah's tombs and
> dropping dead, swiftly and painfully. Gosh, thanks, ancestors.
> Thanks, twentieth century. Thanks for thinking of us.
 
Well, my respect for Sterling just dropped a couple of notches after
reading this statement.  I've been following his work ever since 
_Involution Ocean_, and he's always impressed me as being scientifically
literate.  This statement, however, makes me wonder.
 
First of all, after 600-700 years, the uranium fission products 
have decayed to the point that they are less radioactive than the ore the
uranium was origianlly mined from.  In six thousand years you could 
grind the stuff up and sprinkle it on your salad.
 
Second, if you stood two feet in front of an unshielded canister of
spent fuel, you would not drop dead in the next minute, hour, day,
month, or probably even year.  It would kill you, no doubt, but not

Sterling statement sounds like typicaly anti-nuke propaganda:  long
on emotional impact, short on fact.  I'm disappointed.  I really 
expected better from him.
 
P.S.  You don't have to take my word for it. I'm cross posting Sterling's
statement to sci.energy.  Pick up that group for a few days if you want
to see just how far off base he is.
 
+---------------------------+----------------------------------------------+
| Ken Kirksey               | Geeks at 20 paces?  I like your style.       |      
| kkirksey@world.std.com    |                                -Lobo         |
in the near future.
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: mimir@milton.u.washington.edu (Al Billings)
Subject: Re: Blade Runner Director's Cut
Organization: The Friends of Loki Society
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 01:00:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.175808.22603@u.washington.edu> eylerken@milton.u.washington.edu (Ken Eyler) writes:
>In article <Hc5HqB2w165w@cybrspc.UUCP> roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes:
>>tmaddox@netcom.com (Tom Maddox) writes:
>>
>>>      This same director's cut will apparently be shown at the Grand Lake
>>> Theater in Oakland, California, beginning September 11, 1992.
>>>
>>>      Which might tell us that there's going to be a rash of such showings.
>>
>>It's rumored to be coming to Minneapolis in September, too.  I'll get
>>some details.
>
>Does anyone know if this film will be playing in Washington State any
>time soon?

 There are papers for it all over the Neptune Theatre in the U District at
the moment. Go get a handout.

Wassail,
Grendel

                           mimir@u.washington.edu
    /\  /\       +----------------------------------------+
   /__\/__\      | "I know that I hung on the windy tree  |          |
  /\  /\  /\     |  all of nights nine, wounded by Gar,   |          |
 /__\/__\/__\    |   given to Odhinn, myself to myself,   |          |
    /\  /\       | upon that tree of which none can tell  |          |
   /__\/__\      |      from what root it rises."         |    ______|______
                 +----------------------------------------+

Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: mcguirk@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Dan McGuirk)
Subject: Re: Blade Runner director's cut (info source)
Followup-To: alt.cyberpunk
Reply-To: mcguirk@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Dan McGuirk)
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 08:06:50 GMT

In article <4=ynkll.mjb@netcom.com> mjb@netcom.com (Martin Brown) writes:
>What does make an impression, is how much smoother the director's cut is.
>It just works better.

I totally agree.  I just saw the director's cut on Friday in 70mm.  I
had seen the movie twice before on video, but I always found it
confusing and uninteresting.  It may have been just because I was in a
theater and my attention was undivided, but the storyline seemed to
make an incredible amount of sense in this version compared to the
old.  And thankfully, that annoying voice-over was gone.

Even without the changes, this is one movie that has to be seen in a
theater (unfortunately, I was a little too young to be interested when
it first came out).  To see that Japanese woman's face hovering over
you, 30 feet tall, speaking unintelligibly, is just an incredible
experience...
--
Dan McGuirk                                      mcguirk@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: usenet@inesc.pt (USENET News System)
Subject: Re: How many would *REALY* like to live in WG universe ?
Reply-To: jota@iguana.UUCP (Joao Pedro Martins)
Organization: INESC - Inst. Eng. Sistemas e Computadores, LISBOA, PORTUGAL.
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:16:45 GMT

In article <1594@lysator.liu.se> jan_b@lysator.liu.se (Jan Besehanic) writes:
>usenet@inesc.pt (USENET News System) writes:
>
>
>>	My question is very simple:
>
>>		How many of u guys would like to live in the universe idealized
>>	by William Gibson & Co. ?
>
>>	Personal op: I wouldn't.	
>
>There are worse nightmares than the Sprawl and at least in
>William Gibsons universe the US of A has gone down the drain
>permanentely and that in it self is not necessarily a bad thing...
>
>I would rather commit suicide watching Mtv than to live in
>a Robert E. Heinlein universe though.
>
	What's the problem with RAH's universe ?
	And although I think there are lots of things in the US that simply
	shouldn't exist, I don't think that it going down the drain makes 
	WG's universe desirable.
>
>--
>Jan Besehanic
>email: jan_b@lysator.liu.se
>New, improved .sig-file under construction.
>


----
 joao Pedro Martins, Lisboa, Portugal - jota@tutor.UUCP
 
 "Carpe Diem, she muttered, and laughed. We seize the day.	
  Well, sometimes, the day seizes back !" (Psychodrome) 
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: ecsd@tfs.com (Eric C. S. Dynamic)
Subject: Where would I send to get hold of someone at Mondo 2000?
Organization: TRW Financial Systems
Distribution: ca
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 09:27:05 GMT

Wanted to know if someone can give me a net address for Mondo 2000 -
what, maybe a bbs they run, or info, dialin, whatever.

Eh?

thanks -
-ecsd
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: mimir@milton.u.washington.edu (Al Billings)
Subject: Re: How many would *REALY* like to live in WG universe ?
Organization: The Friends of Loki Society
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 04:26:06 GMT

In article <1685EF426.N020BA@tamvm1.tamu.edu> N020BA@tamvm1.tamu.edu writes:
>    In a WG universe life is cheap and people are tools to be discarded.
>Criminals are heros and decent person villians. A WG universe has great
>tech, but lousy society.

 I look outside and I don't see much difference.

Wassail,
Al Billings

                           mimir@u.washington.edu
    /\  /\       +----------------------------------------+
   /__\/__\      | "I know that I hung on the windy tree  |          |
  /\  /\  /\     |  all of nights nine, wounded by Gar,   |          |
 /__\/__\/__\    |   given to Odhinn, myself to myself,   |          |
    /\  /\       | upon that tree of which none can tell  |          |
   /__\/__\      |      from what root it rises."         |    ______|______
                 +----------------------------------------+
From: fmoody@usc.edu (Ninja)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: 21st Century Soldier
Supersedes: <193f9rINN6m4@sal-sun95.usc.edu>
Date: 14 Sep 1992 18:53:25 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sal-sun95.usc.edu

        I agree.  Too much emphasis is placed on Hi-Tech toys these days.
Improve your old weapons and make the new toys ones that are useable (ie. light
and effective).  My uncle was a armored cav scout who was deep in Iraq when the
news broke about the ground war starting.  His Bradley's TOW missile launcher
didn't work and he had to rely on his chain gun for anti-armor.  He mentioned
that it was quite effective, those 25mm (I think that's right) shells ripping
T-62 turrets apart.....   BTW, he was also upset that you can only select one
weapon system (TOW, chain gun, etc.) on the Bradley at one time.  Any idea when
the flak vest was designed?  I remember hearing about those from the Vietnam
days??? (no I wasn`t there but heard about the vests later...)


fmoody
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: jwtlai@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Jim W "GrimJim" Lai)
Subject: Re: Why freedom of information must be garenteed!!! [sic]
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 03:35:23 GMT

IMO this thread is now tired and hackneyed.

Really.  I honestly think too many critiques on society are based too much on
the society one is in, ignoring possible counterexamples in other cultures.

This is all beside the point, since "information" and "freedom of information"
weren't clearly defined in the first place.

All this polemicizing stinks too much of ivory tower intellectualization.
Theories without reality checks are as useful as driving a car (manual
transmission) without looking outside the windows to see if you're still on
the road.

Of course, that's "cyberpunk" in of itself: style without substance.
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: jon@afs.com (Jonathan Hendry)
Subject: Blade Runner
Distribution: USA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:43:01 GMT


The Blade Runner director's cut starts in Philadelphia on Friday the 11th at  
the Ritz.

--
Jonathan Hendry  Anderson Financial Systems
jon@afs.com  (Nextmail Welcome!) or hendryjw@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu
From: kkirksey@world.std.com (Ken B Kirksey)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Spinrad
Date: 5 Sep 92 23:02:37 GMT
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

> About Spinrad (the only author on that list I remeber having read) -
> I've only read one of his books, and that was just a couple of days
> ago, Bug Jack Barron, and I must say that even though the book was
> written in 69 and computers play no part of the plot, there is a
> definate Cyberpunk feal to the novel, I would like to read his other
> books and see if this is true there too.
 
Check out the novel _Little Heroes_ and the novella collection _Other
Americas_.  They are very cyberpunk in the 80's sense.
 
        
                              Ken
From: ron@zooid.guild.org (Secret Mud)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: _Turing ..._
Date:  5 Sep 92 13:17:12 GMT

From: usenet@inesc.pt (USENET News System)
>
>	well, ok, ok. I got a bit carried away. All I wanted to say is that one
>cannot simply say that "there are more people living in prosperity and freedom"
>, because info is beeing omited. One must also remember that probably there
>are more people living without prosperity and freedom than ever. And one must
>also remember things that exist nowadays and didn't exist in other ages, like
>neonazism, Yugoslavia, Somalia, East-Timor, destruction of the environment, 
>polution, etc. 
>	Just keep this is mind...
>

Well, in truth, those things DID exist.  The Middle East has always been
simmering.  Mongol hordes.  Plague, and high "normal" attrition when you
didn't have plague.  Killing off the mamoths.  Starting the Sahara desert, or
at least helping it start.  Deforesting Europe to burn the wood...  It goes on
and on.
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S. Morris)
Subject: Re: GUNHED video avail. ("Mindphaser")
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 03:34:32 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

collins@socrates.umd.edu (Jim C) writes:
: I have GUNHED (the movie from which the FLA video "mindphaser" is derived).

Can you give me more info on this movie
: I am making copies available for $25, check, cash, m.o. This includes postage.
: Send your address and $$ to:
: 	Jim Collins
: 	5104 Brentford Dr.
: 	Rockville, MD 20852-2119
: Please allow 3-4 weeks, you may get it sooner depending on response.
: This covers my costs plus somewhat limited time.
: This is second-generation VHS. Your tape will be on Maxell Gold or equiv.
: Jim
: -- 
:         "By practice, even without understanding, it will be made plain; your
: body will understand it long before your mind puts words to it. No amount of
: understanding without practice will work. It is not necessary that knowledge 
: precede experience. Performance will produce knowledge."

--
Mary E. S. Morris    |  The future exists first in imagination, then
mesm@netcom.COM      |  in will, then in reality. -- Galivan Burwell
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