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From: jacobs@cerritos.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Finally...Jackson's outta here!!!
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:34:39 PST
Organization: Cerritos College, Norwalk CA

In article <1a8fqqINNarh@shirley.cs.widener.edu>, austin@cs.widener.edu (Jeff Austin) writes:
> Well,
> 
> 	Philly seems to have mixed emotions about the Jackson-Dolphin thing.
> 	Here's my opinion - Keith Jackson is an asshole.  Philly is actually
> 	better off without him.  The guy did nothing but whine and complain
> 	about everything.  Every word out of his mouth was Me, Me, Me.  Oh,
> 	I almost forgot - he can say 'hold-out' and 'money' also.  There comes
> 	a time when you gotta whine about money and there's a time when you
> 	have to show some loyalty towards your fellow players.  Jackson did
> 	not give an inch.  The Eagles were giving him a damn good deal.  He
> 	could have still been the highest-paid tight end AND kept some dig-
> 	nity.  But instead, he (and his agent) kept selling himself as the
> 	'almighty martyr' - the victim against the system.  C'mon Keith, why  
> 	not take the agent's cattle prod out of your ass and start thinking
> 	on your own.  Are you really THAT MUCH better off in Miami?  Only time
> 	will tell.  However, I have a feeling that a SB ring would have come
> 	in a green jersey instead of a baby-blue one.  Oh, I forgot - the ring
> 	isn't important - it's those paycheks that matter.  Anyway, getting
> 	back to my original point - philly is better off.  There will no longer
> 	be this 'anticipation' of when 88 will be back - no more statements 
> 	that begin with 'as soon as Keith's in camp...'.  I think the team
> 	will be able to focus better.  As for Miami, I hope they enjoy their
> 	self-centered, non-team-player, alligator-armed, footstep-hearing,
> 	stat-declining, contract-renegotiating, pass-dropping moron.  Well,
> 	it's just MY opinion.  Did I mention that his stats have gotten worse
> 	every year since his rookie season?  Hmmm, I bet he blames THAT on
> 	everyone else besides himself.
> 
> 					Jeff
> 
> 	Go E-A-G-L-E-S   !!!!
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That's what allthe Rams fans said after they got rid of Dickerson, and look
what happened to them!!

Karl

________________________________________________________________________________Karl Jacobs - Jacobs@cerritos.edu
From: TSTEEGM3@ua1vm.ua.edu (Tom Steegmann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: <None>/ Bills and Buddy Ryan?
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:08:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: ua1vm.16877E2EA.TSTEEGM3
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa


     Buddy Ryan came to mind for several reasons. First, not to take
anything away from Rich Kotite (GO EAGLES!), but I think that Buddy
Ryan built the Eagles into what they are today, more or less.  Second,
if he could do to the Buffalo defence what he did for Philly, the Bills
would be a dynasty, point blank.  He has a real attitude, which might
work for or against him in Buffalo, a city full of attitude.  If
he could get along with some of the egos there, god only knows how
far they could go. On the other hand, maybe nobody would work  together.
Well, thats enough, I gotta study for a mid term.
 
Tom Steegmann
We're just better than you.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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From: rsmith@seq.uncwil.edu (Ross Smith)
Subject: Jackson and Miami
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:58:46 GMT

   Is it just me, or do other people see the possibilities for Miamis
offense with Jackson there now?

   They have two of the best pass-receiving TEs in the NFL now... granted
Edmunds has been hurt and not performing up to par lately, but he has got
to be in the top 6. This would give the Dolphins a killer offensive 
formation: Imagine this Duper and Clayton at WR, Jackson and Edmunds as
ther two TEs and feature Higgs/Humphrey in a one back set.

   With the 2 TEs they could run at any time, or have at least 4 solid 
receivers at any time...

   That kind of offense could be scary if it gels quickly...

   Any other opinions?
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From: v069qqqc@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Mike C.)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Jackson a dolphin?
Date: 29 Sep 92 10:21:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <BvC26q.Mzv@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v079m8ta@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (JONNY B. GOODE) writes...
> 
>	Keith Jackson won't be able to play for at least 3 weeks.  So much 
>for that.

Why not? Is it because he doesn't know the system? If so, I think it's
a stupid move. The guy is an all-pro... teach him a few plays and 
throw him in there, even if it's just to throw off the Bills' already
confused secondary.

But with or without Jackson it'll be a great game. I can't wait.

Mike
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From: delledg@jake.cc.wayne.edu (De Vaughn Elledge)
Subject: Re: Can MIAMI  go undefeated again? was: Can Bills go 16-0?
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 23:55:57 GMT

In article <BvMDny.7AA@acsu.buffalo.edu> evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Doug Evans - CIT Network Operations) writes:
>In article <1992Oct4.210347.28947@cass.ma02.bull.com>, silverio@cass.ma02.bull.com (Brian Silverio) writes...
>>After watching Miami take Buffalo apart, the question is:
>> 
>>Can anyone beat Miami?
>
>Be serious. They won a big game, not the Superbowl.
>
>Doug

But Buffalo played like they were in the Superbowl. :-)

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From: martens@python.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens)
Subject: Re: STEELERS ARE OVERRATED!
Organization: Ohio State U. Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:55:43 GMT

In article <MemHLj200WB7FePlA4@andrew.cmu.edu> Christopher Glenn Huegle <ch44+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>The Packer game was a lot closer when you consider that Woodson
>handed the Packers a touchdown on that muffed punt and following
>play where he blew the coverage, and also gave them another touchdown
>when he let sharpe beat him for a long bomb....if he played up to
>par on those 2/3 plays, the score is 3-3......
                                   ^^??

The score was 17-3.  If Woodson had played better, the score
*might have been* 3-3, but it wasn't, and it might not have been.
A better game from O'Donnell, and average performance from the
Steeler receivers would've helped quite a bit as well.

Remember:  "is" is not the same as "might have been."  For
example, it's the reason Lindy Infante isn't coaching right now.
It's also a part of why so many sportscasters sound illiterate on
Sunday afternoons.

-- 

-- Jeff (martens@cis.ohio-state.edu)
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: True free agency
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:56:38 GMT

Well as everybody knows by now, both Garin Veris and Keith Jackson
took advantage of their new found freedom and signed with other teams,
making them the first true free agents in almost 2 decades according
to the local paper(I thought Norm Thompson was the only free agent 
ever to sign elsewhere for no compensation prior to plan B and he left
the Cards in like 78-79 so its more like 15 years no?).

Basically both players chose a system they will fit in, and got more 
money than they're old club offered, which is exactly how the system
is supposed to work.

I suppose if I were an Eagle fan I might be upset with Jackson because
he kept saying he wanted to stay, but basically, the man got what he 
deserves, and if Philly had given it to him, he would have stayed. I
really think that when Bramans personal salary came out in the McNeil
trial, it took away any leverage he had with Jackson.

I guess the big question is, if this is the future of the NFL, will it
be a good thing or a bad thing? The fear has always been the rich teams
will prosper. The 49ers are certainly a rich team, and the Dolphins are
certainly not poor, but I think both guys really chose the team and not
the money in this case.

I think the next few years in the NFL will be dramatically different 
unless the owners can get the players to agree to a compensation system
similar to baseball, which I doubt will happen.

Russ Smith
From: molinari@ccs.northeastern.edu (Bert Molinari)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Broncos Schedule?
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:53:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: CDSP Computing Lab, Northeastern University


Could someone tell me if the broncos are gonna be home on october 18th?

thanks

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From: jlawlor@ptdi12.intel.com (Jay Lawlor ~)
Subject: Re: HALF-TIME SCORES
Reply-To: jlawlor@ptdcs2.intel.com
Organization: Intel Portland Technology Development
	<1992Sep28.022819.23902@PacBell.COM> <rlcarr.05t0@animato.network23.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:54:12 GMT


Rich> Ah.  Another one of the "I don't know anything about USENET" weenies
Rich> raises his brain-dead head.  Typing "n" or not bothering to read it
Rich> does NOT, repeat NOT stop it from being transmitted.  The articles
Rich> still cost sites money to send, and take up disk space.  Of course,
Rich> you leech off your company, so you can safely exhibit blissfull 
Rich> ignorance about how things work.

At the risk of beating a cold dead rotting putrid horse... :^)

So do you think that half time scores add up to as much as .001
percent of USENET traffic?  Hardly the "bandwidth buster".

Do you go around chastising on every group when someone posts
something unimportant to you?  How about alt.politics.democrats?
"Hey, don't post about standings in the polls until the election's
over.  I'm tellin' my dad that you're wasting bandwidth again."

If you're really concerned just cut down some of the groups your site
receives.




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Mailstop: AL4-57      Phone: (503) 642-8050        FAX:   (503) 649-3996
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From: deanb@pecan10.cray.com (Dean Barker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Packer / Falcons Summary
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:42:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: hemlock.1992Oct5.164235.25466
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Originator: deanb@pecan10


In article <1992Oct5.172949.16051@mr.med.ge.com>, frigo@blitzen.med.ge.com (Fred Frigo 5-5806) writes:
> 
> The Packers have a bye week to consider re-activating Don Majkowski
> and Darrell Thompson.  Prediction:  Majkowski will start against the
> Bears, but Workman will retain his starting role over Thompson.

Really? I hope not. I think Favre is doing a fine job, and he is learning. I 
think Majkowski had his chance and he has proven that he cannot lead this team.
Also Majik is so injury prone it's not worth letting the players get used to 
him. I say do not juggle the quarterbacks, leave Favre in there.

My prediction: Majkowski will start the next game (I believe it is
against Cleveland, not the Bears) as the holder for kicks...not as the QB.
Who else can say they are paying $1+ million for a FG kick holder?

-Dean
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Re: Future QB of the LA Raiders...
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:59:10 GMT

In article <27000107@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell) writes:
>>I hate to differ with a colleague, but his percentage of completion
>>was hardly anything to brag about. What did he throw, 59 attempts?
>>Any QB that is in the NFL had better be prepared to hard knocks or the glory.  >In this case, Todd should brace himself
>>for some knocks.  Rookie was written all over this dude. I think
>>he would rather be surfing and doing drugs than to be on the
>>firing line. Sorry, excuse--
>>  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com  --------
>
>Give me a break.  A guy who played with the second team all pre-season does
>not get the snaps with the first team needed to perfect timing, routes, 
>ability to predict what a receiver will do when the QB scambles etc...
>
No, give yourself a break. Please put on your thinking cap before
you rationalize.  Other QB's have been put in the same situations
in the past and have performed brillantly. On the other end, like
Todd, others have failed.  Hosteller (Giants) came thru when he
was into action, remember the HOSS leading the Giants to a SB.
What about Bone (Niners), 3rd stringer, coming off the bench and
kicking some butt. Sorry, but Todd hardly qualifies at this point
as a NFL QB, at least not a good NFL QB.  There was too much hype
and he hasn't come through yet.  Please don't offer him any
excuses, they don't have any merit in the NFL or in life. 

>Todd got all of one week to play with the first team.  He wracked up 395
>yds passing and had > 50% completion.  He played for a team that gave away
>14 points via turnovers that were not his fault.  The Browns knew that he
>could be counted on to throw a lot given the 14 points so they put a lot
>of pressure on him.
>
>By your logic a QB who hasn't shown himself by the 3rd game should be
>written off.  A 1st year Terry Bradshaw and Joe Montana would be real
>interested in this line of thinking.
>
Please don't compare Todd with a Hall of Fame QB and a future HOF
QB.  Bradshaw also had tremendous pressure on him, but he did not
possess the "next QB of the century" label as Todd was given.
IMHO, Todd's dad was fervent in his goal to mold his son into a
SUPER NFL QB.

>Also IMO your 'he would rather be doing drugs' reference is total crap.
>How the hell do you know?  Todd has a passion for the game.  I look for
>him to get better each week.
>
It is well chronicled on Todd's drug problems...don't you read the
papers or listen to the sports news? I will agree on one point.
Perhaps he does need time to develop, but he has a long way to go.
Without a support cast, he will just lose his confidence and all
the pressures this young man faces and has faced, might be his
downfall.(IMHO)


-- 
  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	
  "Fact are facts and will not disappear on account of 
   your likes."  -   Jawaharlal Nehru
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From: Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.YCC.YALE.EDU (Go GIANTS!)
Subject: Re: giants game!!
Organization: Yale University Computing & Information Systems
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:02:22 GMT

In article <12750003@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com> billm@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Bill Maguire) writes:
>From: billm@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Bill Maguire)
>Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:57:18 GMT
>Subject: Re: giants game!!

>    Last time Giants won at Soldier Field was 1962 ...

we can now happily change that statistic to 1992!!!!!

Adriene L. Nazaretian        
Yale University              
ADRIENE@YALEADS.BITNET        
ADRIENE@YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU
From: gilford@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Gilford T. Hapanyengwi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Jackson a dolphin?
Date: 29 Sep 92 01:43:02 GMT
Organization: Vanderbilt University CS Dept.

In article <BvB9yq.C10@acsu.buffalo.edu> v069qqqc@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Mike C.) writes:

   Just heard on ESPN that Miami plans to announce the signing of 
   Keith Jackson tomorrow.

   This adds a whole new dimension to the Dolphins-Bills game...
   Marino now has a brand new weapon to tear up the Bills secondary
   with.

   Mike C.
*********************************************

ESPN said Jackson was ready to sign a 3 year 4.6mill (?) dollar
contract with the Dolphins.  However the Eagles might be offering him
more.  The Raiders, Broncos and someone else might still be in the
mix.

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From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: PREDICTIONS for Cowboys/Eagles game
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:17:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


The Eagle fans at the Vet will prove themselves to be the most obnoxious
bunch of idiots on the planet by throwing bottles, rocks, beer cups, etc.
during every Cowboy drive.  Done so in the past will continue to do so.
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From: rfedkiw@redwood.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw)
Subject: Re: Can Bills go 16-0?
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 17:39:49 GMT

In Article 30789, COHEN PAUL L writes ...

>O.K. the Jets ate 0-4, but they always play the Bills tough.

Sunday, Nov 22, 1987 Buf @ NYJ 17 14  JETS LOSE
Monday, Oct 17, 1988 Buf @ NYJ 37 14  JETS LOSE
Sunday, Nov 20, 1988 NYJ @ Buf 6 9    JETS LOSE
Sunday, Oct 22, 1989 NYJ @ Buf 3 34   JETS LOSE
Sunday, Dec 24, 1989 Buf @ NYJ 37 0   JETS LOSE
Monday, Sept 24,1990 Buf @ NYJ 30 7   JETS LOSE
Sunday, Oct 21, 1990 NYJ @ Buf 27 30  JETS LOSE
Sunday, Sept 15,1991 Buf @ NYJ 23 20  JETS LOSE
Sunday, Dec 1,  1991 NYJ @ Buf 13 24  JETS LOSE

... well the Jets have lost the last 9 games, I hope you 
don't think that this 0-4 Jets team has a chance to break 
the streak.


--
Ron Fedkiw (rfedkiw@joshua.math.ucla.edu)

A plan is made by someone who is sitting and thinking ...
while others are doing.
From: austin@cs.widener.edu (Jeff Austin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Finally...Jackson's outta here!!!
Date: 28 Sep 1992 22:42:34 -0400
Organization: Widener University CS Department, Chester PA
NNTP-Posting-Host: shirley.cs.widener.edu

Well,

	Philly seems to have mixed emotions about the Jackson-Dolphin thing.
	Here's my opinion - Keith Jackson is an asshole.  Philly is actually
	better off without him.  The guy did nothing but whine and complain
	about everything.  Every word out of his mouth was Me, Me, Me.  Oh,
	I almost forgot - he can say 'hold-out' and 'money' also.  There comes
	a time when you gotta whine about money and there's a time when you
	have to show some loyalty towards your fellow players.  Jackson did
	not give an inch.  The Eagles were giving him a damn good deal.  He
	could have still been the highest-paid tight end AND kept some dig-
	nity.  But instead, he (and his agent) kept selling himself as the
	'almighty martyr' - the victim against the system.  C'mon Keith, why  
	not take the agent's cattle prod out of your ass and start thinking
	on your own.  Are you really THAT MUCH better off in Miami?  Only time
	will tell.  However, I have a feeling that a SB ring would have come
	in a green jersey instead of a baby-blue one.  Oh, I forgot - the ring
	isn't important - it's those paycheks that matter.  Anyway, getting
	back to my original point - philly is better off.  There will no longer
	be this 'anticipation' of when 88 will be back - no more statements 
	that begin with 'as soon as Keith's in camp...'.  I think the team
	will be able to focus better.  As for Miami, I hope they enjoy their
	self-centered, non-team-player, alligator-armed, footstep-hearing,
	stat-declining, contract-renegotiating, pass-dropping moron.  Well,
	it's just MY opinion.  Did I mention that his stats have gotten worse
	every year since his rookie season?  Hmmm, I bet he blames THAT on
	everyone else besides himself.

					Jeff

	Go E-A-G-L-E-S   !!!!
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From: Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.YCC.YALE.EDU (Go GIANTS!)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: NINERS WIN!!! YESSS!
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:44:44 GMT
Organization: Yale University Computing & Information Systems

In article <1992Oct2.164451.27191@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall) writes:
>From: marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall)
>Subject: Re: NINERS WIN!!! YESSS!
>Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 16:44:51 GMT

>In article <1992Oct2.033340.17802@PacBell.COM>, jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct02.000717.6747@bnr.ca> emilio@crchh444.BNR.CA (Emilio Rivera) writes:

>[...lots of childish non-football-related name-calling deleted...]

>If you guys want to have a pissing contest can you please carry it over
>to E-mail? (And don't give me any of your "if you don't like it press 'n'
>bullshit", Gloria).

>=============================================================================
>Bob Marshall                     \\     "It ain't age
>Lockheed Missiles & Space Co.     \\     That makes me look this way
>Sunnyvale, CA                      \\    It ain't the years, boys,
>marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com\\   It's the miles"
>"I tell the truth 'cept when I lie"  \\     - Chris LeDoux
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It scares me that people like you work at lockheed....

ok, NOW HIT 'n'


Adriene L. Nazaretian        
Yale University              
ADRIENE@YALEADS.BITNET        
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