From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Yoshi Hattori
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:57:04 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: usa
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH

larryd@stein.u.washington.edu (Larry Desoto) writes:


>bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby) writes:
>
>>joel@upchrch.UUCP (Joel Upchurch  ) writes:
>
>>>cecchini@acsu.buffalo.edu (Julie A Cecchini) writes:
>>>
>>>> The very sad thing is, that he will probably be convicted due
>>>> to diplomatic pressure.  Furthermore, I have seen NO evidence
>>>> that he *wasn't* trying to break in.
>>>
>>>While diplomatic pressure may have caused him to be prosecuted, I don't
>>>think it will have much effect on the jury's decision to convict or not.
>>>Of course the man is ruined either way. Defending himself against the
>>>manslaughter charge will probably take everything he has. then there is
>>>the prospect that Hatori's family may bring a civil suit against him.
>>>Even if he is acquited of the state charges, he may face the cheerful
>>>prospect of being charged with violating Hatori's civil rights by the
>>>federal government.
>
>>In light of all this hassle, maybe it's not too smart
>>to kill unarmed people who are not making any actual threats
>>to your life?
>
>The man was apparently in costume and prowling around a side door.  Just
>how do you suppose the homeowner was supposed to know if he was
>armed or not?  More than one person has gotten themselves killed making
>the wrong assumption about whether or not a prowler was armed.

So what's your policy, Larry?  Shoot anyone who looks suspicious
because they *might* be armed?  That's ridiculous.

>Frankly, most people with even the most rudimentry intelligence can
>understand that it might be best to 1) stand still, 2) run away when
>someone points a gun at them.  The last thing you would expect an innocent
>person to do in this situation is walk toward an armed man.

In the next paragraph you say that yopu don't know what happened that
night, and yet now you claim that Mr. Hattori saw the shooter
had a gun trained on him.  How do you know Mr. Hattori saw
the gun?  How do you know he walked toward the man after he
saw the gun?

Even if he did, is stupidity now a capital offense?

>I don't know what happened that night.  It is for the grand jury to
>decide, but I really get furious with people like you that are apparently
>happy the man will end up in financial ruin regardless of whether or
>not he was justified.

You're making some really outrageous assumptions, here.

First of all, you don't have a clue what kind of person I am,
and I think it presumptuous of you to talk about "people like
me" when you don't have a clue what kind of person I am.  Did you
know, for instance, that I am a gun-owning believer in the RKBA?

I am not happy that the man will end in finanical ruin if he is
innocent.  I *am* happy that he is going to be tried, and if
he is found guilty of recklessly taking a human life (which
is what it looks like to me) I hope he spends a long time in jail
because he is the kind of lunatic that gives the gun-banners the
ammunition they need to try to take away my guns.

Despite the bumper-sticker, gun control means more than
hitting what you shoot at - it also means knowing when to
pull the trigger.

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   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
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