From: krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us (D. 'krikket' Krick)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: Sex in Backrubs
Date: 7 Sep 92 08:30:11 GMT
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

In article <cstollen.7529@meltdown.chi.il.us>, cstollen@meltdown.chi.il.us
(Carolyn Stollen) writes:

><Deleted>
>NONONONONO!  This is a weird culture that has their nervous
>system hooked up so that the crotch is directly connected to
>all of your skin.  (Except when a football player hits another
>on his ass?)  Give it a break.  Consider this attitude both
>rude and a disease to be cured.

Amen, Sister!  (Odd phrase uttered by through these Pagan lips...)  :)

>It could come from the attitude that a man should be able 
>socially force a woman to either NOT touch a man at all (highly
>unlikely) or once she has, be practically obligated to sleep
>(discrete phrasing) with him.  We all lose by the manipulative
>structures that men of the Male Culture (and we all participate
>in it from time to time, "all men, both male and female" as one
>of the framers of the US Constitution wrote) have thought that
>benefitted them.

Interesting outlook on life...  I formally disagree with it though.  Yes, I
will agree that the current society is dominated by males, but I disagree that
it is completely manipulative.  I've seen to many jobs recently gone out to
people who lack the skills (or even the effort to TRY to compete).  Right now,
I cannot become a Policeman in the area.  The odds are too far against me.  But
if I were a woman, black, hispanic, or insert-your-favorite-minority; I would
have no problem.  Unfortunately in trying to correct the scales, they are being
thrown farther out of whack...  (I'll save specific examples until
requested...)

Also, this changes depending on what part of the country you are in.

But we seem to be getting off topic...

><Deleted>
>I dont believe that we women are respected.  And if you p
>that YOU are the exception and that you do.  Hmm, every con man
>claims that he aint.  You might even believe it till the chips
>are down and you get an advantage by exercising male power.
>You know the culture; you know the language.
>
>I am not judging.  I am describing.  I am not even offering a
>suggestion for change in this.

Still disagree with ya, no offence!  :)

><Deleted>
>As an intermediate help, say you just are not willing to do
>massage with men.  Try working on your tenderness by being
>with infants and small children.  You must have a friend with
>a child or could find one.  Learn to touch and not be afraid.
>Take a healing course where you touch but dont move but you
>do connect your energies.  

Interesting thought...  One I wholeheartedly agree with.  Unfortunately, I
don't know anyplace that would teach things along these lines.  And aren't we
overlapping onto the alt.magick thread? (Grin)  Do you know of a place in the
area that teaches these things?  I'd definately be interested...

>Hmm, this just slipped in as a place for an ad.  I teach this
>kind of work.  I am a Reiki Master and can teach and initiate
>people in Reiki Level I and Reiki Level II.  Ya'll come!

If you promise to hold back your man-hating,  :) I'll head over and take a few
lessons!  (Hmmm... I know this is a public message, but to save retyping at a
later point, leave Feedback or Email to me if you want me to call about
this...)

>Rub your hands together and feel the energies between them.
>Learn to move in slow ways.  Practice relaxing between movements.
>Fall from the waist... and lift.

What about those of us who have recently injured our backs and CANNOT do that
without causing PAIN!!!

>Play slow boring music.
>Feel sensual all by yourself.

Sounds good...

>Abstain from masterbating for a week.

No offence, but WHY?

>Rub oil on your own body.  Learn your muscles.
>
>Develop your sexual side in your life but for Mother Earth's
>Sake develop your other side too.  (It has been established 
>by scientific determination that each human being has 
>precisely 81 sides.  Explore them all.)

Mind quoting a source, or at least some logic behind that statement?  I'm
missing something completely here...

>Grins to all of you.
>Harmony

Merry Meet, Merry Part, and Merry Meet Again!
(And who's Mary anyways?)

:)

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