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From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Subject: Re: To Martillo
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 09:43:30 GMT

jaber@court.ahmedi.kt (Sheikh Jaber Subah) writes:
: 
: Thsd group is not for consuming the bull$#!+ which this
: ****sucker produces. I know this mother****** does not read replies to his pathetic posts. He just every ocne in a while pops

He may not read it but other may. In fact I have received quotes of my reply
to his posts.
: to remind us how too-civilized-to-be-true he is. He should remember thta we are not idoits like he is and we always remember how biased uncivilized barbaric he is. Whyu doesnt this son of
: a b**ch work in the bush campaign, with his idiosy he can secure
: imminent victory for him.

Please note that he represents the western views of Islam in the truely open
way, especially among the uneducated ones which are the majority. The more
educated ones just do not make decisions based on something they have 
insufficient data.

	Why don't muslims respond to his criticisms in a more intellectual way?
At least we have the chance to explain Islam. The styles of Irfan had met
with stern opposition for being too evangelical in usenet groups, whereas
Martillo's posts were supported even though it is "evangelical" for the 
atheists.
	In fact Christians should attack him as well. A lot of people do
not listen to one person, perhaps, they will be persuaded by more people
even when uttering the same arguments in different agles.


--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet
From: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Anisa Alnoor Aldoubosh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Arabic Name
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:26:42 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <1992Sep28.053233.2460031@locus.com> jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000) writes:
>In article <3877@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU> aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Anisa Alnoor Aldoubosh) writes:
>
>The most name I like is "Mahmoud".  That's the name of a person that's 
>closest to me.

:-)  May Allah protect your closest friend, insha'Allah :~)

>>How about *uncommon* names, like Fatima or Khadija?  :-) :^} :"D
>
>These are uncommon, are you crazy?  About 25 girls in my school were Fatima's.

Common, ukhi.  Shoo alhakeee???? :-))  Tiqdar tjiib turjumaan?  :)  What
I was saying was, as Ridha's response, in jest ...  but it seems like
we agree on the smileys, anyway ;].

Masalami 
Anisa
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: mackenzi@McRCIM.McGill.EDU (Paul Mackenzie)
Subject: Re: SAUDI ARABIAN Software jobs
Originator: mackenzi@ice.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
Organization: McGill Research Centre for  Intelligent Machines
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 13:15:32 GMT


|> >None of the above is necessary; what's really in important 
|> >Saudi sw jobs is:
|> >
|> >1. US Citizen by birth.
|> 
|> 	Or European - especially British.

How about Canadian?

-pm

Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: ahashim@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Ahmed M. Hashim)
Subject: What is a real freedom?
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:44:03 GMT

Assalam Alaykum:
Dear brother Mohamed:
	I appreciate your responce to my simple question but some how
I don't feel justified with your answer.  If I agree with your definition
of freedom which means to you that freedom is the ability to search for
 an answer to the
most basic of all questions, "what is the purpose of life?" without
being hampered by the adepts of one answer or another then I would have to
beleive that freedom is a goal and not a mean.  You see, if I spend my life
searching for an answer and consider that a freedom, then, when am I going
to use that freedom to do anything.  I believe that freedom is a mean to 
understand three basic question:
1) how did I existed?
2) why am I existing?
3) what will happen when I die?

        I thank you brother for the interest in the subject, some of these
masseges on this group are only distructive to our unity.  I wish that I can
make the brothers and sisters feel the blessing of being gifted with ISLAM

                                   Assalam Alaykum

+--------------------------------------------+-----------------------+
| s8437600@sandcastle.cosc.brocku.ca         |     GOD is Great.     |
|          Brock University                  |      Allahuakbar      |
|        St. Catharines, Ontario             +-----------------------+
|               L2S 3A1                      |" I have not created   |
|                CANADA                      |  jin and ens except   |
|                ******                      |  to worship Me.     " |
+--------------------------------------------+-----------------------+

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000)
Subject: Re: Weird Exchange! (Was Re: Large phone bill in Dubai. Help needed)
Organization: LC
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 05:12:59 GMT

In article <3853@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU> aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Anisa Alnoor Aldoubosh) writes:
>In article <Bv1pCu.BA6@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> kinawi@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Husam Kinawi) writes:
>>
>>Seriously, what does 'ya harra haresshik' mean? I know it is supposed to
>>be Arabic, but even being Egyptian didn't help here!
>>So John Millionworth :-) , or Anisa, do you care to explain?
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Husam Kinawi
>
>You mean you Egyptians never watch Syrian films?  :_)

No Anisa they don't.  They have tons of Egyptian films to watch.
 
>Maybe the term 'ya hara hareesh a/e k' will come into better
>focus if I mention the name Gorar Toshay ... ?

Egyptians, don't know Mr. Doraid Lahham (Gawwar AL Toshy, not Gorar!!).
I was shocked many times by several egyptians in this regard.  Opposite
to the rest of the arab world, they all know him.


Now, what does the term yihara` hareeshak mean?  
I believe it comes from yihara` hareemak, which means
may allah burn your harim; a bad statement.  But they changed it
to a nice way and use it as a joke just like you say in English: 
you are crazy.  It is exactly how the Americans change the Jesus and
Dam to Gee and Darn.

It is used in a joking atmosphere.

jle :)
From: uk05650@nx25.mik.uky.edu (Adnan Al-Alharmoodi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: re: Arabic names .
Date: 29 Sep 92 03:21:06 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

What about Adnan .
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: faris@sarcasm.trl.OZ.AU (Aziz Faris)
Subject: Re: Clinton and the Mideast
Reply-To: a.Faris@trl.oz.au 
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne,Australia
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 02:27:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.010635.29516@nysernet.org>, astein@nysernet.org (Alan Stein) writes:
|> 
|> How similar is that democracy supposed to be to the democracy
|> currently being practiced in Syria?  Which Arab democracy is it
|> supposed to emulate most closely?  Perhaps Qadaffi's?  Or Hussein's?
|> (Pick one Hussein, your choice.)

I recken we should coin it after the Israeli democracy, then it will be looked
upon favorably by the west.

A.Faris
From: makhan@IASTATE.EDU (Mohammed A Khan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Need a job
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:11:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: IASTATE.1992Sep29.131108
Reply-To: makhan@IASTATE.EDU (Mohammed A Khan)
Organization: Iowa State University

I am looking for information (names, addresses or phone numbers) about 
engineering jobs currently available in the gulf countries.
I am interested in both civilian and defense industries.

Any information anyone can provide will be greatly appreciated.
===             ======                     ====================
From: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Anisa Alnoor Aldoubosh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: What to serve with M.E. dinner
Date: 6 Oct 92 03:37:18 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <9210041909.AA21778@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> kshammou@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Khaled J Shammout) writes:
>
>     one small spoon of sugar
>     two small spoons of ground coffee.
>     {always add an extra 1/4 cup of water for each cup}
>     Bring the water to boil, and then add the sugar and coffee.  And as an
>           advice: stay near the range and watch it!!!!


You might also consider, after adding the coffee, to let it come to a
boil three times - removing from heat after each boiling, to the top
of the pot until the foam recedes.  After each boil, add the froth by
one spoonful, to each little cup.  It sounds complicated, but it tastes
wonderful.  You might also consider having a little tiny urn with rose
water, to pass around so that each person can add a drop in their cup.

Delisioso!

>Enjoy your dinner (and beware of pork if they are Muslims), have a good time,
>and SAHTAYN (Arabic for bon apetite {sp?}, usually used after a person praises
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Or, literally, two healths to you!

Anisa :-)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Subject: Islamic Arabic Names
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 02:09:03 GMT

I am expecting another child in mid january. Our primitive ultra scan
cannot identify the sex of the baby yet so I have to prepare for 2 names.

If boy:
	adib
If girl:
	affikah
The above were taken from a book of muslim names.

My other children were named 
Azlan , Anisah, taken from people's names in Malaysia although I had
searched through the book of names.

I know that islamic sounding names were based on arabic names but I realise that
some arabs are also christians and some names were actually very bad but
used during jahiliah times.

My name is among the most islamic names but it is too common. There are
hundreds of people with "exactly" the same name as mine in Malaysia alone.
i.e. "Othman bin Ahmad".

My wife's official name is Bayana Bte Sailillah but we usually call her
Saridah. Any significance in these names? 

--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet

Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: im@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ibrahim M. M. Babelli)
Subject: Re: IT'S ARABIC POETRY QUIZ TIME ! QUIZ #2
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 17:42:34 GMT

The poem is for Ka'ab Ibn Zuhair the son of Zuhair Ibn Abi Sulma.

The occasion is his arrival to Al-Madinah in disguise seeking 
forgiveness from the prophet (PBUH) for his previous misconduct.
The prophet (PBUH) liked the poem and awarded his Burdah to the 
poet.

im
From: guncer@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Otomatik Portakal )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Quote of the Day
Date: 1 Oct 92 07:28:30 GMT
Organization: Arizona State University


In article <1992Sep30.224837.22518@midway.uchicago.edu>, fade@quads.uchicago.edu (mohammad h fadel) writes:
> 
> As for non-Muslims minorities, they have one great advantage that Muslim
> minorities do not have: recognition of their religions as legitimate
> religions.  I can only speak of what I saw in Egypt and Jordan, but, while
> it is not great being a minority anywhere, I don't think living conditions
> for the Christians of these two countries are appreciably different from
> the Muslims.  They do have one big advantage, though: Christians in the Arab
> world have the right to go to Church on Sunday even though it's not an
> offical holiday.  I'm waiting for the American government to allow Muslims
> the right to take off work or public school to go pray.  I'm also waiting
> for the right for mosques to do adhan publicly.  For those of you who don't
> know, the adhan is a fundamental ritual (shi`ar) of Islam. Without the
> right to call people to prayer, mosques are not allowed to function in their
> normal way.

Though I prefer not to comment on the situation of Christians in Egypt (it
has probably been beaten to death in sca), I have a small question 
regarding your statement of Americans not allowing Muslims to take off work.

How do we know that the reference points for both western and Islamic
calenders coincide?  Did Muslims reference their weekdays to the Christian 
calender when they began counting days?  What makes the Islamic "Friday" 
the same as the Jewish "Friday" and Gregorian "Friday"? I wouldn't even
go into calculating the Jewish calender (unless someone posts a program
for it :-)). If I am not mistaken, July 16, 622 is a monday. So, if 
the days of the week are counted from this day on in the Islamic calender,
shouldn't friday be monday? Or if the Muslim week ends with friday, then
the Islamic friday coincides with the Gregorian sunday.  Just rename
juma to be sunday and you are set. 


Selim Guncer
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: 2 dead on Saudi/Qatari Border Dispute Yesterday.
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:07:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: bu.97386
Followup-To: soc.culture.arabic
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <11242@crackers.clearpoint.com> martillo@nero.clearpoint.com (Joachim Martillo) writes:

>The article represents noone's opinions other than the author's.

:)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan)
Subject: Re: UNHRC condemns the Khomeini regime AGAIN
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:26:30 GMT

oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek) writes:

>Now,
>the problem that the discussion REALLY degenerated and 
>transformed to a real holy war. And using terms like "punishing 
>women who don't want to cover their heads is something very 
>normal" is really unacceptable by any human mesures. I really 
>appreciated the feedback of Mme Rayes and here enlightened >opinions, but it seems that the dark ages are still present in
>the memory of plenty of our Muslims fellows on this forum.

   Since the debate was of religious content, you either engage
in by providing religous factual matter or do not. Otherwise,
you need to prove appropriateness of offenses like "dark ages"
and you know where and why dark ages happened.
   Determining what is considered an offense in religion is not
the UN job or any specatators' so why not "^eerna skootak?"


** "Show me the way, to get right on time!"
                                     --Boney M


Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan)
Subject: Poetry by i. Al*Hasan Attihaamiyy
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:30:42 GMT

-------------------------------------------
Key:
'    as in  'anta       not as in  you're
^    as in  ^alaa       not as in  on
*h   as in  *hayzaboon  not as in  hag
*d   as in  *dureer     not as in  blind
*g   as in  *gabiyy     not as in  goof
*k   as in  *kala^a     not as in  take away
*s   as in  *suwt       not as in  sound
*t   as in  qi*tt       not as in  cat
q    as in  tawuqquf    not as in  quit
th   as in  tha*keen        as in  thick
_th  as in  _thaak          as in  that
*th  as in  *gulee*th   not as in  thick
--
*XX,_XX stands for *X*X, _X_X
" stands for ''
-------------------------------------------


*Hokmo lmaniyyati fi lbariyyati jaaree
  ma haa_thihi ddonya bidaari quruuree
baynaa yora l'insaano feehaa mo*kbiraa
  *hattaa yoraa *kuburan min al'a*kbaaree
boniyat ^alaa kadarin wu 'anta toreedohaa
  *sufwan min al'akdaari wa l'aq_thaaree
wu mokallifu l'ayyaami *didda *tibaa^iha
  mota*tullibon fi lmaa'i jo_thwata naaree
wa i_thaa rajawta lmosta*heela fa'innamaa
  tabni rrajaa'a ^alaa shafeerin haaree
fal^aysho nawmon wa lmaniyyato yuq*thaton
  wa lmar'o baynahoma *kayaalon saaree
fuq*doo ma'aaribakom ^ijaalan 'innamaa
  'u^muurokom safaron min al'asfaaree
wu taruuku*doo *kayla shshabaabi wu *haa_thiroo
  'an tostaradda fa'innahonna ^awaaree
fadduhro ya*kda^o bilmonaa wu yo*gi*sso 'in
  hannaa wu yahdimo maa banaa bibawaaree
laysa zzamaano wa 'in *huru*sta mosaaliman
  *koloqo zzamaani ^adaawato l'u*hruuree
...

**
From: nkjle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000)
Subject: Re: To Martillo
Organization: LC
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1992 07:24:44 GMT

In article <nabeel.718186620@court.ahmedi.kt> jaber@court.ahmedi.kt (Sheikh Jaber Subah) writes:
>   Shit was created for people like you to eat, not to post to
>this newsgroup. Now fuck off, will ya? Bone apetite (deliberate
>"misspelling.")
>
>I do not blame an asshole like you (typical source of shit),
>but I blame the naive netters who care to waste their time in
>pumping a flat tire like you.
>
>Shit.
>
>--jaber

Now cool down Uncle, Jaber Al Shabah, its only martillo.

jle
From: memg2102@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: How much is an Iraqi dinar worth?
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:17:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvEwLD.3qw
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I am curious to know how much an Iraqi dinar is worth. I would greatly
appreciate this information.
Marlon Menezes
memg2102@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: kshammou@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Khaled J Shammout)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Arabic Names
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:32:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: magnus.1992Sep28.223252.18460
Organization: The Ohio State University


Here is a list of some Arabic names. However, you may want to consider giving
your son your father's name if you are the oldest son. Anyway, let me start 
with
describtions of some of the characters I used to facilitate transliteration:

<    = the  first  letter in  the word EYE in Arabic [<ayn]
gh   = "       "         "         "   BRANCH "   "  [ghusn]
kh   = "       "         "         "   my name "  "  [Khaled]
h:   = "       "         "         "   LOVE    "  "  [h:ub]
s:   = "       "         "         "   FRIEND  "  "  [s:adiq]
d:   = "       "         "         "   HYENA   "  "  [d:abi<]
t:   = "       "         "         "   TABLE    "  " [t:awila]
'    = "       "         "         "   YOU     "  "  ['anta]


Here is the list of names with their meaning:

<asim     protector
<adil     just, fair
<ala'     high rank
<at:if     compassionate
<imad     support
'ameen     reliable
<ameed     dean
<anan     lofty
'anees     intimate
<aqeel     intelligent
<azim     Determined
Badr      Full moon  (very old name {ya badru wa alamthalu yad:ribuha lidhi
                                     allubi alh:akimu} )
Bahey     brilliant, beautiful
Bahir     dazzling
Bakr      young camel
Basil     brave
Bishara   Good news
D:iya'    light
Fad:il    Virtuous
Fakhr     glory
Fareed     unique
Faruq     one who distinquishes truth from falsehood
Fat:een     clever, bright (now that is an uncommon name)
H:abeeb    beloved
H:akeem    wise
H:aleem    gentle
H:aneef    thankful
H:asim    final,decisive
H:azim    discrete,prudent
H:ulmi    dream
H:usam    sword edge
'ih:san   doing good deeds
'ijlal    greatness
'iman     leader
<is:am    to guard
Jalal     lofty
Jamal     kind
Kareem     generous
Khalid    everlasting (now here is a name!!!)
Khaleel    friend
Mahdi     rightly guided
Majeed     glorious, noble
Ma'mun    reliable
Mans:ur    supported, victor
Muneer     radiant, shining
Murad     desired
Mus:t:afa   chosen
Nabeel     generous, noble
Nadir     rare
Najeeb     Excellent, superior
Nas:ir     victorious
Rasheed    righteous
Ra'uf     merciful, kind
Rida      to be satisfied
Sameer     partner
Shareef    noble, honored
T:ahir     clean, pure
Waleed     new born child (anotherverynice name)
Zahir     shining, bright

I hope this list will be of some help.  And congratulations on your new baby.
Mabruk wa in sha'allah takuun hayatuhu mal'a bilnajah wa alsurur.

Ma salama
---------------------
Khaled Shammout
From: awair@igc.apc.org (Arab World and Islamic Resources)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Talk by Professor from Birzeit Univ
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:10:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1471800192:000:510
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!awair    Oct  2 13:10:00 1992


From: Arab World and Islamic Resources <awair>
Subject: Talk by Professor from Birzeit Univ., Palestine

PALESTINE & ISRAEL IN THE NEW WORLD ORDER

Talk by DR. AZMI BISHARA
Professor of Philosophy, political analyst, and author.
Birzeit University, Palestine

Wednesday, October 7, 1992
7:30 pm

La Pena Cultural Center
3105 Shattuck Ave.
Berkeley, CA

Sliding scale: $5 - 10

Sponsored by The Palestine Aid Society of America/SF Bay Area Chapter

For information please call: (415) 340-8978 or (415) 390-0949
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan)
Subject: Re: Arabic Names
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 06:25:42 GMT

aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Anisa Alnoor Aldoubosh) writes:

>That's why the woman is given the primary responsibility of 
>taking care of her children and raising them right :-).  You 
>just have the job of being the provider.  I don't think any man 
>wll allow any harm to come to his family and will try to have a 
>little fear of his Creator to not be negligent where they are 
>concerned.

   And you said you were "disobedient and radical!" I thought
you would ask me to stay home and breast-feed the kids while
the wife makes history! (A friend of mine swears that there
was a guy in his neighbourhood in Amman who bread-feed his
child after his wife had died.) Anyway, I do not share your
opinion about being the provider and I had many a sizzling 
debate about it with my father. Every time one of us makes
a mistake he says to my mother, "shaayfeh terbaaytik?" In fact,
he shared our education too, but no one says, "zaity ^ikir!"
A man has to share arranging the kids educational policy with
the woman. He should help in house keeping unless he is busy
providing. Anything should be divided fairly, but the woman
does not have to pay a penny (not even a cent) even if she has
Qaron's wealth. This concludes that a man has to be very
responsible which I do not enjoy!


>Well, I've heard that being a parent really sharpens your 
>awareness of being a mature and responsible person.  I just

   What we know in the country side is that either getting
married or working in the military, makes a kid a man!

>think you need to grow up a little more before undertaking such 
>a role.  Perhaps you are not ready yet, but don't totally 
>discredit yourself or make this seem like such a difficult 
>burden that you cannot handle.  It is like engineering -
>basic logic and practicality :-).

   That is the problem. If you want to do something perfectly,
don't do it. And I want to do important things perfectly that
is why I run away from reponsibility like Jaber from Iraqis!
You know what they say about Virgos.

>Anisa

   I know the Hadiths you appended but I duck from that by
claiming that the time is not right, that was in the golden
times. But tell you what, the solution is falling in love. We
as Arabs when falling in love, forget our names! But experience
shows that I am no easy prey at all. "Mish kull i*ttair illi
yittaakil la*hmoh!" I care about finishing my thesis much more
than marriage. "Ullu yihdeenee wa lmo'mineen. -- aameen."


** I told you it is vibologically possible, but "maa la fukuuhu,
bnoab."
** Really were their walkmans playing Boney M's "run away" when
they "u*tluqoo seequunahom lirree*h?" "wi ta*kodni rree*h
wi tgibni rree*h ..."


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