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From: graham@venus.iucf.indiana.edu (JIM GRAHAM)
Subject: Re: Time Management/Scheduling S/W ???????
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   
Reply-To: dolmen!jgraham@moose.cs.indiana.edu
Organization: Somewhere in Bloomington, Indiana
Distribution:  world
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 13:50:13 GMT

In article <64773@cup.portal.com>, thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) writes...
>In article <ALANB.92Aug27170938@swordfish.sdl.mdcbbs.com>
>alanb@sdl.mdcbbs.com (Alan Braggins) writes:
> 
>|  [...]
>|  > For WHAT computer?
>|  > If it's for a Sun, SGI, HP, Honeywell, DEC, IBM, etc etc send email to:
>|  
>|  You don't think posting the question in an Amiga group might be a clue?
> 
>Actually, no.  The #^$^%$ interface on Portal doesn't show cross-postings,
>and during the past 6 months nearly identical requests (for such software)
>have been cross-posted to 10+ other comp.sys.* newsgroups.
> 
>However, had I read the request from my accounts at any of BTR, Netcom, etc.
>and noticed there wasn't any cross-posting, I really doubt my response would
>have differed.
> 
>In any event, the product I mentioned can run on the Amiga, it's just that
>I doubt there's much interest based on a thread which appeared in the
>comp.sys.amiga.applications group earlier this year (which is again why I
>asked "WHAT computer").
> 
>It's very likely that someone NEEDing a time/project scheduling system has
>other computers, too.
> 
>If the requestor was serious, he can contact the people at the email
>address I mentioned.


There is a very good time/management program (I assume you are looking
for something that will do PERT and Gantt charts) called "AmiGantt",
and is shareware.

I believe the latest version is on a Fish disk, but I cannot tell you 
which one.

If you cannot find it, notify me at the following email address,
and I'll uuencode it, break it into pieces, and email it to you.

My email address is:
       dolmen!jgraham@moose.cs.indiana.edu

Jim Graham 

        -> ->Disclaimer: I do not speak for my company. <- <-
                          Neither do they speak for me.
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.misc:13162 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:14626
From: mohr@educom.adsp.sub.org (Frederic Botton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Is this HD about to fail?
Date: 26 Aug 92 09:36:58 GMT
Organization: Educom
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga GRn V1.29 4/25/92 (Beta) by Mike Schwartz

>I've got a Quantum 52Mb LPS HD (connected to a GVP 68030 Combo interface)
>which I think is slowly failing.

I think you should try to re-arrange your HD with a tool like QuarterBack
Tools. My opinion is that it is a little bit messy, specially if you worked
a lot with files create/delete etc.
Anyway, before re-arranging your HD, make a backup... You never know !

Good luck :-)

Fred.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: pdietz@cse.unl.edu (Phillip Dietz)
Subject: AA chipset:  Commodore hasn't done everything wrong.
Organization: NCEMRSoft
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 01:40:40 GMT


So the all the hype and bickering is:

    Will I be able to use the new AA chipset and why in the hell not?!

True, odds are that AA chipset upgrades will be doubtful but don't count
Commodore completely out.  Remember this question about 6 months ago:

    Will my A500 be able to use the WB2.0 ROM and why the hell not?!

Commodore set the story straight by ALLOWING a500's to runthe ROM even though
they knew the computer masters that only live in *.advocacy had a different
opinion......

Let's cross our fingers and not jump to conclusions to quick.

--
     "Where there's a will--                                  Phil Dietz
         there's a C!                                 pdietz@cse.unl.edu
                                                  University Of Nebraska
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.misc:13202 comp.sys.amiga.applications:6822
From: jerry@marin.uucp (Jerry C. Hudgins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Time Management/Scheduling S/W ???????
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:56:39 EDT
Organization: Private Use

In article <64738@cup.portal.com> thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) writes:
> In article <1992Aug26.172748.328@doc.bmd.trw.com>
> rthorstr@doc.bmd.trw.com writes:
> 
> | I'm looking for some "time management/scheduling" software.  Can anyone tell
> | me where I can find some, either commercial or pd or shareware?
> 
> For WHAT computer?
> 
> If it's for a Sun, SGI, HP, Honeywell, DEC, IBM, etc etc send email to:
> 
> 	nis@netcom.com
> 
> and ask about "GraphicVUE" (a commercial product (best in the industry), used
> by all major world governments, military organizations, banks, and even by
> TRW's competitors! :-))

That's interesting, but given that the message was posted only to Amiga
newsgroups, it would be reasonable to assume that the Amiga is the platform
in question.  Why not convince TRW to port GraphicVUE to AmigaDOS?  :-(

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From: tex@cs.nott.ac.uk (Timothy Emanuel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Dead Hard Drive
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:27:22 GMT
Reply-To: tex@cs.nott.ac.uk ()
Organization: Nottingham University

I was stupid earlier this week, and absent mindedly
started plugging my hard drive into my Amiga whilst it
was turned on. The result, as you may imagine, is a
dead drive.When it is plugged in I simply get a white 
screen on booting up, and the drive light stays on. I
can't even boot from floppy with the drive plugged in.
Could anyone suggest what I should do?

Thanks in advance, for any suggestions.
-- 
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tex@cs.nott.ac.uk
Feared by the Blues, loved by the Reds, Ryan Giggs,
Ryan Giggs, Ryan Giggs.
From: DonD@cup.portal.com (Don Robert DeCosta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Correct, Not Correct, Correct, NOT!
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 22:35:20 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Aug19.151525.21868@enea.se>
  <1992Aug21.044831.27211@ultb.isc.rit.edu>
  <1992Aug21.201302.42498@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
  <1992Aug23.194527.14813@regina.cs.uregina.ca> <64541@cup.portal.com>
  <1992Aug24.152116.20598@regina.cs.uregina.ca>

>In article <64541@cup.portal.com> Avi@cup.portal.com (Avi - Schwartz) writes:
>>>Doing my best not to sound like Marc here, but just when I thought the
>>>addition of the 1.44 drive (well, 2.0M to be exact) to the A3000T was a
>>>thoughtful upgrading of technology, I learned that in most cases it is
>>>now cheaper to source 1.44 drives than 720K drives, simply due to the
>>>greater demand.  I wouldn't doubt that they start showing up in A500s
>>>and A600s sometime soon...
>>>
>>>- Dave
>>>
>>
>>You would have been correct if you were talking about PC type HD floppy
>>drives. Unfortunately the Amiga HD floppy drives are not standard ones
>>and therefore are possibly a lot more expensive.
>
>And I still would have been correct (and I was).  MS-DOS drives work just
>lovely in Amigas, thank-you, as long as they have the proper disk change
>logic (certain brands do, certain ones don't).  I got desperate and had a
>Fujitsu 1.44 in mine for a long time (as an 880K of course).
>
>- Dave
>

Yes, PC-type HD drives do work in Amigas as 880k drives BUT the HD drives
showing up in 3000s that function as HD drives are NOT PC-type HD drives!
So, Marc (er... Dave), CBM did actually have to RESEARCH and DEVELOP a
way to get an HD drive to function as an HD drive in an Amiga, which I
think is a thoughtful upgrade of technology.

Don DeCosta           |The nice thing about sanity is|  VM/Nomad2
DonD@cup.portal.com   |you can lose it more than once|  Amiga/Imagine
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: utoddl@guitar.oit.unc.edu (Todd M. Lewis)
Subject: Re: Help! My amiga can't walk! (Lost its feet)
Organization: UNC Office of Information Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:30:16 GMT

>In article <1992Sep3.002900.1501@pro-freedom.cts.com> eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com  
(Ed Brown) writes:
>> > when putting big rubber feet on anything, *screw them down*!

Yeah, what he said.

>>Well, some do and some don't.  Unless there is some strain placed upon the
>>feet in a sideways direction, they should not have any probs.[...]
>>While screws,
>>bolts, and welding all lead to solid fixtures, a drop of rubber cement
>>works well for me... and costs less as well.  Cost is no big deal on 1-2
>>machines but how about for 1,000,000 machines?  It adds up.

Get real.  If a machine needs feet, the feet need to stay on.
--
Todd M. Lewis / Todd_Lewis@unc.edu / utoddl@guitar.oit.unc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: jyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Young)
Subject: Re: World of CBM, Pasadena
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 10:21:51 GMT

>Seminars for World of Commodore, Pasadena Ca.
> 
>Saturday, Sept 12, 1992 10 am - 5 pm
> 
> 3:00 PM  *Amigavision 3.0
> 3:45 PM  *Commodore New Product Overview
> 4:00 PM  *AmigaDos 2.1
> 

Many people wondering HOW can Commodore take only 15 MINUTES to show
many new Amigas!?  C= said new Amigas showing up at Australa WOC
and new Amigas == A600 and A3000T!

IF Amigas with AA selling soon WHY sell 2.1 OS???


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: hakan@dit.lth.se (Hakan Ardo)
Subject: Fish contents-listing now searchable in a WAIS database
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:04:04 GMT

Hello!
I have created a WAIS database indexing Fred Fish's disks content-listings.
If someone is intrested in using it, the .src file is
incuded at the end of this news article.

About WAIS:
The Wide Area Information Server (WAIS) Project is an experiment,
automating the search and retrieval of many types of electronic information
over wide area networks. More info and programs are available by anonymous ftp
from ftp.think.com in directory wais.

	Hakan
Email:
hakan@hera.dit.lth.se

Here is the amiga_fish_contents.src file:


(:source
   :version  3
   :ip-address "130.235.162.11"
   :ip-name "munin.ub2.lu.se"
   :tcp-port 210
   :database-name "amiga_fish_contents"
   :cost 0.00
   :cost-unit :free
   :maintainer "hakan@hera.dit.lth.se"
   :description "Server created with WAIS release 8 b5 on Aug 29 16:24:34 1992 b
y anders@munin

This is an index of the contents of Fred Fish's disks #1-current
with a freely distributable AMIGA software library
containing an extensive collection of PD, shareware and demo programs.

Search for 'disknr' to see the current (latest) disk number.
Search for 'ftp' to see some ftp sites where you can get the disks.

"
)
From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: CBM/Amiga vs NewTek/Toaster
Date: 27 Aug 92 05:23:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Aug26.222340.1234
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


 > ...Commodore told many of its dealers not to sign on as authorized
 > Toaster Workstation dealers or else risk losing their official Commodore
 > dealer status.

My.  What a nifty way of having your rear end torn off in court for
"illegal infringement of trade practices".  CBM doesn't have a legal leg to
stand on with this and if they were stupid enough to write that down,
someone could have ripped 'em a new one.  Manufacturers are NOT allowed to
dictate what retailers can sell or not sell.  Sheesh...


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: cadwallader@forty2.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Low end competition getting strong, will CBM cope?
Reply-To: cadwallader@forty2.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:41:50 GMT


Hi,

	Since we'll all know about AA in 8 days (;-D) but it'll be at the
extreme top-end range, how do you think CBM will address the low-end
competition? The A600 may have just dropped to 299 but it's hardly
technically brilliant. With relatively low cost, (although still kit-in-a-box)
Falcons around and now Acorn release a 12MHz 6 Mips home Archimedes for
499 inclusive, how will us Amigans at the low-end of the scale fair?

	Acorn have also significantly reduced price of the top range A5000
so it looks a MUCH better deal than the reduced-price Amiga3000! :-|

	It may be all well and good to provide top-end gosh-wow kit, but
I expect AA to be incompatible with anything less than Amiga3000, and I don't
know either of the people in the UK who have one! :-)

								- JIM CAD*
From: system@fallout.lonestar.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: testing please ignore
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:42:37 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Organization: DECUS DFWLUG BBS *Dallas*TX*

Testing please ignore
From: Tony-Preston@cup.portal.com (ANTHONY FRANCIS PRESTON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Wanted an "event maker" ?!?
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 09:05:15 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

There are several shareware utilities based on the Unix CRON that
will do what you want.  Nazcron(I belive is sold by Black Belt as
part of a tools disk), Ami-Cron, TPTCron(probably spelled wrong)
are a few that come to mind.  I have used Nazcron to re-boot my
system, start up programs, do automatic backups, and all kinds of
things.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: paulh@DIALix.oz.au (Paul Huxham)
Subject: Reqtools V38 ??
Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Western Australia
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 02:03:19 GMT
Summary: Where can I get reqtools V38
Keywords: reqtools, libraries

Hi,
  Anybody know ehere I can FTP or if someone can send me REQTOOLS V38.

  Ive some UUCP programs that require version 38 of reqtools.library

  If you feel like mailing it to me, send it to paulh@DIALix.oz.au.

  thanks very much

  paul huxham


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: ipolyi@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (Harold H. Ipolyi 713-486-6444)
Subject: Re: AA chipset in the A3000 -> I expect it!
Organization: McDonnell Douglas Space Systems Company
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:48:20 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.161521.14376@athena.mit.edu>, fihsu@athena.mit.edu (Hsu I-wei) writes:
|> Or how about this idea?  Trade-in your PC clone for a certain amount of credit
|> depending on your CPU, etc.

I made that comment to the C= rep who first posted the 
Power-Up notice, and the response was that they would 
first be taking care of current C= owners.

Sure enough, later they had the Vic-20, C64, etc. deals; 
but some of the people who took them up on the offer had 
a long wait.

Maybe they had a fairly good idea of demand vs. their
production capacity?
From: Gary_Coleman@panam.wimsey.bc.ca (Gary Coleman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Speculation about A3000T-040 and AA Chipset
Distribution: world
Date: 30 Aug 92 12:24:01 PST
Organization: Commodore Computer Club / PaNorAmA

In a message dated Tue 25 Aug 92 20:12, Eeb@pro-Freedom.cts.com (ed Brown)
wrote:

 > Perhaps an AA chipset has been designed into this card as well...
 > Does this make sense to anyone?

 EFB> Don't know about the electronics end of it but it REALLY makes sense
 EFB> to me
 EFB> as an A3000 owner.  I heard a rumor that there would be an adapter
 EFB> board
 EFB> for the A3000 that would allow the new AA chipset to be used but
 EFB> that this
 EFB> board fits into the processor slot.  When I heard that, the 1st
 EFB> thing that
 EFB> occurred to me was "What about the 040 board... where does it go if
 EFB> the CPU
 EFB> slot is filled with the AA chipset board?".  Maybe this answers that
 EFB> question.

Perhaps this is why C=> has not released an 040 card for the desktop 3000 ?

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992
From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: I need an unerase program
Date: 2 Sep 92 05:03:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Sep1.220327.1446
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


 > I would be thankful if anyone could point me in the direction of
 > an unerase program for AmigaDOS which works with hard disks...

Take a loot at the commercial program "Quarterback Tools".  It is said to
work pretty well at undeleting files.

Also, this is a pretty good ad for dir util programs like Disk Master. 
Yeah, it's still possible to goof but it is a bit harder.



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Jeffrey Grimmett 9999)
Subject: Re: Wrong diskfont.library (36.??)
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Disclaimer: This posting does not neccessarily reflect the opinions of NCR.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 16:24:31 GMT

In article <tomme.715299643@Minsk> tomme@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Thomas Holmstr|m) writes:

>When I try to run Fountain it says I need v37 of diskfont library. The
>version command says my diskfont.lib is v36.?? (I'm not at home now).
>I got all libs with my 2.0 rom upgrade and it's the same on both the
>systems and install disks. Is there a more recent version of the lib and
>why isn't it supplied with the upgrade? Or is it something else that's

You need the diskfont.library that is on the Fonts disk itself.  Copy it
to libs: and reboot, you'll be all fixed up.

-- 

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From: strat@sportster.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Converting Structured Graphics Formats
Date: 27 Aug 1992 10:17:04 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: sportster.ksu.ksu.edu

cunniff@cup.portal.com (Ross Alan Cunniff) writes:

>What exactly don't you like about DR2D?  What do you find lacking?
>The major needs we at Stylus currently see are:

>	* Clipping paths
>	* Arbitrary transformations
>	* Better text support

>Other than that, it is functionally equivalent to PostScript (other
>than being limited to 64k colors, which should certainly be adequate
>for most purposes).

* Color gradiation.  
* Color text.
* Clipped bitmaps.
* Perspective (Give rotation coordinates for an entire object)
* Transparency

And how about a public rendering engine?

Stratocaster
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmers,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.forsale
From: markus@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Markus Illenseer)
Subject: Re: Looking for HimpleSoft KickPascal !!!!!
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 11:42:49 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld, Technische Fakultaet.

In article <1992Aug21.125949.27694@lonex.rl.af.mil>, kopackm@lonex.rl.af.mil (Michael A. Kopack) writes:
|> Hi All !!!!!!
|> 
|> A while back I saw a program called KickPascal by a company called HimpleSoft.
|> It was a full featured Pascal developement package with includes, editor,
|> compiler, and debugger. It was a LOT better than PCQ. Since I had no interest
|> in PASCAL at the time, I wasn't really interested. Now though, I go to Georgia
|> Tech, and they only teach Pascal, not C. 
|> 
|> Therefore, I'm in search of a copy of Himpplesoft KickPascal. I think the
|> one I saw had demoes that were in German, so the program was probably made
|> in Europe. I'd like to get an English (American) version if possible. I'm
|> willing to pay $$$$ (up to $50) for a copy. Or, if you know where I could
|> find the latest version, please let me know. I only have 4 weeks to track
|> down this program.......

 Oh dear :-)

 Well, first of all: There is no Demo or Copy of Demo for this KickPascal.
 The Compiler with it's manual and disks is commercial.
 The company is not HimpelSoft but Maxxon GmbH in Germany. HimpelSoft is
 the 'alias' for the Programmer 'Jens Gelhar'

 The original costs 298.- DM (~$200), there is no english Version of the
 manual (yet), the compiler itself has german/english menu-items.

 There is no Debugger. The produced code is not very fast.

 Mail me if want to get the adress of the company, otherwise
 try to contact the author himself: 'himpel@uni-paderborn.de' , but
 i fear he has no time (Exams and work on a C++ Compiler).


|> 
|> Also, anybody know of a GOOD QUALITY Lisp system?

 No such GOOD thing in sight.

|> 
|> Thanks,
|> Mike Kopack
|> 
|> -- 
|> Mike Kopack                         | Sex, Drugs, Rock & Roll and my Amiga,
|> Internet : gt6758b@prism.gatech.edu | what more could anyone want?
|>            kopack@bugs.rl.af.mil    \              -- Me 
|>            kopackm@lonex.rl.af.mil   -------------------------------------------

 Good Luck, Markus.

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From: utoddl@guitar.oit.unc.edu (Todd M. Lewis)
Subject: Re: CDTV is dead.
Organization: UNC Office of Information Technology
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:25:01 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.021649.9871@moci.uucp> @moci.uucp writes:
>mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:
>: In article <1992Aug30.175116.4493@ra.msstate.edu> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu  
(Skip Sauls) writes:
>: What can you do with an Amiga right out of the box?  Not much.  You can
>: edit text files with andy finkel's EMacs (if it's still part of the OS
>: distribution)...
>
>What can you do with DOS on a PeeCee right out of the box? What in the world
>can you do with a PeeCee with MS Windows right out of the box? At least with
>an Amiga you get a decent OS.

Actually, the Amiga 500 usually comes in a bundle with a few games and a
couple of applications, or a couple of games and a few applications depending
on the bundle.  They aren't great, but they aren't EMacs either...
--
Todd M. Lewis / Todd_Lewis@unc.edu / utoddl@guitar.oit.unc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc