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From: bartjan@cs.kun.nl (Bart-Jan Bouwers)
Subject: Dutch Competition: 2nd division
Summary: No surprises
Keywords: NEC 4ever!
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 06:48:37 GMT


DUTCH COMPETITION: 2nd DIVISION AFTER 5th ROUND
===============================================================================

Results:

VVV - Heerenveen		canceled (heavy rain)
Haarlem - NEC			0 - 2
Helmond Sport - FC Zwolle 	0 - 3
TOP - Telstar        		1 - 1
RBC - Excelsior			4 - 0
Heracles - ADO Den Haag		0 - 3
Veendam - AZ			1 - 3
Eindhoven - Emmen		2 - 1
Graafschap - NAC		played 10-7-1992


SCORES AFTER 5th ROUND
===============================================================================
   Team          Played    Won    Draw   Lost       Points        Goals
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 1.AZ               5       3      2      0           8          12 -  7
 2.RBC              5       4      0      1           8           8 -  4
 3.SC Heerenveen    4       3      1      0           7           8 -  3
 4.NEC              5       2      3      0           7           7 -  4
 5.De Graafschap    4       3      0      1           6           8 -  4
 6.ADO Den Haag     5       2      2      1           6          11 -  7
 7.NAC              4       2      1      1           5           5 -  3
 8.Eindhoven        5       2      1      2           5           5 -  3
 9.Telstar          5       2      1      2           5           6 -  5
10.Haarlem          5       1      3      1           5           6 -  7
11.TOP              5       2      1      2           5           5 -  7
12.Emmen            5       2      0      3           4           6 -  5
13.Excelsior        5       1      2      2           4           5 -  9
14.FC Zwolle        5       1      1      3           3           5 -  7
15.Helmond Sport    5       1      1      3           3           5 -  9
16.VVV              4       1      0      3           2           6 - 11
17.Veendam          5       0      2      3           2           2 -  7
18.Heracles         5       0      1      4           1           3 - 11

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: "Paul O'Sullivan" <G62N@UNB.CA>
Subject: WC 94: Europe Group 5 and 6 results
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:27:38 GMT

Here are the results and standings so far in the World Cup qualifying
matches for Groups 5 and 6 of Europe

GROUP 5
3 results
                    Played  Won  Drew  Lost   For  Against  Points
 HUNGARY               2     1     0     1      4      2       2
 GREECE                1     1     0     0      1      0       2
 ICELAND               2     1     0     1      2      2       2
*CIS                   0     0     0     0      0      0       0
*YUGOSLAVIA            0     0     0     0      0      0       0
 LUXEMBURG             1     0     0     1      0      3       0

  13/05/92 Greece     1    Iceland    0
  03/06/92 Hungary    1    Iceland    2
  02/09/92 Iceland         Yugoslavia  ppd.
  09/09/92 Luxemburg  0    Hungary    3

GROUP 6
3 results
                    Played  Won  Drew  Lost   For  Against  Points
 BULGARIA              2     2     0     0      5      0       4
*SWEDEN                1     1     0     0      1      0       2
 AUSTRIA               0     0     0     0      0      0       0
 ISRAEL                0     0     0     0      0      0       0
*FRANCE                1     0     0     1      0      2       0
 FINLAND               2     0     0     2      0      4       0

  14/05/92 Finland 0    Bulgaria 3
  09/09/92 Finland 0    Sweden   1
  09/09/92 Bulgaria 2   France   0


Paul O'Sullivan                   E-mail -   G62N@UNB.CA
University of New Brunswick
Fredericton, NB                   L I V E R P O O L   F .  C .
Canada                                    1892 - 1992
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Subject: Re:    Souness the great Saten
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 18:20:15 GMT

In article <92255.144155SHUGHES@ESTEC.BITNET>, <SHUGHES@ESTEC.BITNET> writes:
> At the moment the hottest subject on the net I would like to make some points a
> boutthis man.The reason he won trophies at Rangers was he brought to Scotland a
> n unmistakable brand of soccer thugs in the form of 1.Terry Hurlock(The Horribl
> e) 2.Chris"the Boston strangler"Woods3.Terry(own goal)Buthcher 4.Graham"choir
> leader"Roberts and lets not forget The Great Saten himself never before in Euro
> pe has anyone seen such a bunch of yobs since the days of Attila the Hun.
> Next point Souness got sent of three times in his first year at Ibrox the first
>  of which was a shocking tackle on G.McCluskey(he had to be strechered of)next
> one was against Celtic another shocker.But he even managed to get sent of on th
> e day Rangers won their first Championship for nine years,you set a great examp
> le Graham.I will never forget the tackle on the Buckarest player,nor will he
> one of the worst I have ever seen.Now on to his management it was not to be lon
> g before a touch line ban was impossed on him for constantly abbuseing officals
> and then there was the clasic story of Aggie Moffat who confronted Souness afte
> r Ranger`s players let their dressing room in a mess.Her quote to the newspaper
> s "Graham Souness is a horrible man" Im think on that note my case is rested.
> come on anyone playing Liverpool
> S.Hughes


	A great poet and politician on the net. Welcome !! I see your company
even issues computer accounts to the tea boys. I must say your article
is the biggest piece of crap to *ever* appear on the net and the biggest piece
of pish I've read since Terry Cassidy pronounced that Ibrox was not a 
particularly good stadium.  I was going to e-mail you but you never seem 
to take the effort to reply . Can dish out the abuse but can t' take it 
perhaps ?  What s all this Souness abuse for anyway ? Liverpool were on
the slide before he arrived and Dalglish knew it. Signing players like
Speedie, Hysen, Carter etc just before he left didn'y help Souness much. 
Give the guy some time and he will turn Liverpool around. He's made some
bad signings but who doesn't. As for his record in Scotland, I think it's
safe to assume he turned Rangers around. The proof is in the number of 
trophies he won and the fact that attendances have increased four times
He doesn't need to prove anything to anyone except to be a better behaved and
more respectful. 

	Finally it would seem that all employees of the orginastion of the
original poster require to have a chip on their shoulders to be employed :-)
-- 
Sandy Mackinnon
University of Strathclyde
Glasgow
cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
From: mppu3@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Conor McMenamin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Shurely Not JMB !!!
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:36:55 GMT
Organization: University of Sussex
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

???????????????????????????
Yours,
Confused.
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From: s8921366@macgraw.mqcs.mq.oz.au (Paul English)
Subject: Re: Australia: name changes enforced?
Organization: Macquarie University, School of Mathematics, Physics, Computing and Electronics
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 02:37:49 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.235845.14735@alijku05.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at> kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Karel Stokkermans) writes:
>I have just read (in an Austrian sports magazine) that the Australian
>FA has required the clubs Melbourne Croatia, South Melbourne Hellas,
>Peresta Makedonia and Heidelberg Alexander to change their names. If
>they would refuse to abandon the reference to foreign names, they
>would be excluded from the championship.
>
>Is this true, and what is the rationale behind it? The current situation
>in the Balkan (pity for Heidelberg then...)?
>
>Any Australian care to comment?
>
>Karel

The Australian Soccer Federation (not FA :-)) has required clubs to remove
names with ethic associations from their team names.  This is primarily a
move to give soccer an Australian identity, instead of the current
situation where it is seen as an ethnic sport.

Some crowd incidents in the last two years have also influenced the
decision.  Last year a state league semi final was played before a closed
stadium after earlier incidents between Serbian and Croatian fans.
Trouble has also emerged in the national league, chiefly between Greek
and Macedonian supporters.  In both cases it seems the trouble was caused
by agitators with little to do with soccer.  It is to be hoped that
lessening ethnic links may reduce such incidents.

An interesting sidelight:

Sydney Olympic and Marconi-Fairfield have been allowed to retain their
names, Olympic on the basis that Olympic has become an international,
rather than a national symbol, and Marconi on the supposition that Marconi
has become identified historically with the club and Australian soccer, and
need not change.  The Marconi decision in particular seemns to be on shaky
ground.

Another point:

All clubs will be allowed to retain their current emblems, including
national insigna.  This is a compromise move to appease the ethnic based
clubs, which do form the basis of soccer in this country.


--
    Paul English    |Email:                        |You can tell how far
   School of MPCE   |s8921366@mackay.mpce.mq.edu.au|we have to go when
Macquarie University|    paul@vulcan.anu.edu.au    |today's supercomputers
 Sydney, Australia  |   paule@photon.ansto.gov.au  |are programmed in FORTRAN
From: tan@cis.ksu.edu (Joo Tan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Results wanted
Date: 14 Sep 1992 18:29:30 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University, Dept. of Computing and Information Sciences
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: depot.cis.ksu.edu
Summary: Sunday/Monday/Tuesday games
Keywords: English Premier League

Can someone please post scores for the following games
as they become available:

Sunday 9/13 Leeds/Aston Villa
Monday 9/14 Coventry/Tottenham
Tuesday9/15 Blackburn/Everton

Thanks very much.

--Joo Tan

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From: wirtz@cs.uni-sb.de (Stefan Wirtz)
Subject: iceland championship
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Informatik
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 12:00:41 GMT

Hi there!

Does anybody know how the Iceland soccer championsship ended?
A friend of mine was in Iceland some days ago but unfortunately had to 
leave before the last round.


Who can help me?

Thanks in advance!

Stefan
-- 
STEFAN WIRTZ 
MPI Informatik, Im Stadtwald, 6600 Saarbr"ucken, FRG
Phone: (x49-681)302-5364
e-mail: wirtz@mpi-sb.mpg.de
From: shadlin@garnet.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Holland - Italy review
Date: 11 Sep 1992 19:20:58 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Somebody asked whether Baiano played for Italy against Holland.  I
don't know, but I do recall that when Sacchi first took over the 
Italian team he gave Baiano a chance (he was playing for Foggia then),
and he did not look very good.  

Ken S.
From: Haney%USCN.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: under 8 rules
Date: 11 Sep 1992 08:16:59 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In reply to Matt concerning the number of players on the field,
we do things similarly.  But with the the>[D>[D>[Cu-10 we play with 9 0n the sid
and with u-12 groups we then move up to 11 on a side

By the way, I am in Columbus, Georgia and SOCCER is beginning to
take off here. But back to the subject, yes it can be very confusing
out on the field when there is one "herd" playing against another
"herd".
In the U-6 teams we play with 6 v6 with indirect kicks onlyand two attempts at t
ddition, we play the younger ones on smaller fields
and for a shorter time. Excuse the jumping around but I've been juggling
numerous calls whiule writing this.
From: scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Snatching Defeat From the Jaws of Victory
Date: 14 Sep 92 07:24:59 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, SCOTLAND.

In article <1992Sep11.100408.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk> cbar26@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
>In article <1992Sep10.085922.18576@spider.co.uk>, scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson) writes:
>> Switzerland 3   Scotland 1
>> 
>> Knep     2,71   McCoist 15
>> Bergy    85
>> 
>> Match report blah blah blah......(see also previous SJ post) 
>> -- 
>>  Scott Jackson              e-mail scottj@spider.co.uk  abuse  031-554-9424
>>  Spider Systems Limited     "...but Joe was to belie comparisons to all these
>>  Edinburry                   men and introduce a new concept to Scottish
>>  Scotland                    fitba' - a striker who could score a goal!!"
>
>Seated in his iron deck-chair(cushioned), supping from a tin of McEwans Lager
>and wearing the latest steel-framed specs with blue tinted lenses(MIM Ltd),
>Scott was to belie comparisons.................
>
>Chris

Have you noticed how these guys never give out their surname.

-- 
 Scott Jackson              e-mail scottj@spider.co.uk abuse  031-554-9424
 Spider Systems Limited     
 Edinburry                               FOUR IN A ROW
 Scotland
From: lah014@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Richard Marshall)
Subject: Crewe update [probably last one before studying abroad] 
Organization: Languages, Coventry University, UK
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 10:05:46 GMT

In article <Bu24Ey.FJL@hsi.com> archer@hsi.com (Garry Archer) writes:
>In article <MNEWS.715525174.13908@gate.demon.co.uk> J.M.Ross@man0507.wins.icl.co.uk (J.M.Ross) writes:
>>         The 1892-3 Football League season kicked off on 3rd September 
>>         1892, Division Two was introduced from this season. Results:
>
>Congratulations to the old Second Division!
>
>>         Div 2
>>         Burton Swifts       7  Crewe Alexandra       1
>>         Grimsby Town        2  Northwich Victoria    1
>>         Sheffield United    4  Lincoln City          2
>>         Small Heath         5  Burslem Port Vale     1
>>         Walsall Town Swifts 1  Darwen                2
>>         
>>         Ardwick are now Man City, Small Heath are now Birmingham City.
>>         All Second Div clubs were playing their first football league 
>>         games except for Darwen.

I thought Walsall Town Swifts are now Walsall & Port Vale have dropped the
Burslem part of their name

It makes a change to let in 7 goals in the first away match of the season 
unlike last year when Crewe managed to score 7 !!
I can't see Crewe winning the 3rd division this season. However, I don't
expect them to let in 7 goals during a match despite a defence that is
too generous for its own good. I just hope they can improve.
At least they can cope with the back-pass rule, as witnessed to good effect
for 80 minutes against Torquay (last time Torquay passed back 21 times, so
a 4-2 win is a vast improvement on a 0-0 bore draw)
In every home game they have sat back after taking a lead (thankfully a big
enough lead to win the match by) but away from home they seem incapable of
finding the net (except in the Coca Cola cup)

>Thanks for the history James!
-- 
lah014@cck.cov.ac.uk    R.J.Marshall    Alias = Rambo    Crewe Alexandra FC

           "Coventry University - Higher education on the move."
              (seen on the side of a bus in Coventry 19/6/92)
From: harin@iti.gov.sg (Harinderpal Singh (AIM))
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Who won the Scotland/Switzerland game ?
Date: 15 Sep 92 08:08:39 GMT
Reply-To: harin@iti.gov.sg
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, S'pore

In article 505@idtinc.UUCP, mnardini@idtg.uucp (Mauro Nardini) writes:
>
> 
>Anyone have a World cup qualifying update ? I'm especially interested in
>the Scotland/Switzerland outcome.

Here are all of this month's results for you...

9 Sep     Europe Group 1    Switzerland     3    Scotland       1
9 Sep     Europe Group 2    Norway         10    San Marino     0
9 Sep     Europe Group 3    Ireland         4    Latvia         0
9 Sep     Europe Group 3    N. Ireland      3    Albania        0
9 Sep     Europe Group 4    Wales           6    Faroe Islands  0
9 Sep     Europe Group 5    Luxembourg      0    Hungary        3
9 Sep     Europe Group 6    Bulgaria        2    France         0
9 Sep     Europe Group 6    Finland         0    Sweden         1

4 Sep     Oceania Group 1   Solomon Islands 1    Australia      2
11 Sep    Oceania Group 1   Tahiti          0    Australia      3
12 Sep    Oceania Group 2   Fiji            3    Vanuatu        0


Cheers,
	Harin
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From: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Karel Stokkermans)
Subject: Bulgaria round 5
Organization: RISC, J.K. University, Linz; Austria
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 21:59:05 GMT

Round 5
Loko S                    4-1 Haskovo
Spartak                   0-0 CSKA
Beroe                     1-2 Loko P      
Pirin                     2-2 Loko GO
Etar                      2-0 Dobrudzha
Sliven                    3-1 Yantra
Botev                     3-1 Chernomorets
Levski                    4-3 Slavia

-- 
-- Karel Stokkermans, RISC-Linz, Schloss Hagenberg, Austria, Europa
 -- email: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (or k314070@edvz.uni-linz.ac.at)
"O hoe vergeefs / des doelmans hand / zich strekte naar de bal    [  21-6-88,  ]
 die 'een minuut / voor tijd de Duitse / doellijn kruiste..."     [ J. Deelder ]
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: th12@quads.uchicago.edu (Paul T. Ho)
Subject: Team budget (was Re: Tuesday's English Premier League results)
Reply-To: th12@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:01:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.101217@axion.bt.co.uk> JHiggott@axion.bt.co.uk writes:
>
>But they aren't doing bad considering they have already taken points off Man U,
>Spurs, Liverpool, Villa... with a team with only one addition (Gerain Williams)
>since last season, and an entire professional squad costing less than Dean 
>Saunders' left leg.  Good luck to them I say, and well done to the management 
>on sticking with the players who did so well in gaining promotion last season.
>
>Jeff...
> 


Talking about the cost of a team and Souness' team budget, I came across
an article in the latest issue of "Shoot" which listed the costs of 
the Scottish Premier Div teams. For your interest, this's what the writer
says:

Team		Cost of team

Rangers		12m
Celtic		6.8m
Hearts		2.6m
Hibs		2.2m
Aberdeen	2m
St. Johnston	1.5m
Falkirk		1m
Airdrie		.81m
Dundee		.78m
Motherwell	.775m
Patrick		.5m
Dundee United	.2m


Don't ask me how they got the figures. I don't know.

Well, considering that Souness had about twice the budget of his 
nearest rival, the recent success of Rangers doesn't seem that
spectacular anymore. But as someone has pointed out, money doesn't
mean everything in England. Teams like Ipswich can still provide
miracles.

BTW, am I correct in saying that Blackburn, Man Utd and Liverpool
are the most expensive teams in England, while Ipswich and maybe
Wimbledon and Sheffield Utd cost the least to assemble? I would
appreciate if someone could post any estimation of the team costs
in the Premier League.


-- 
Paul
Internet: th12@midway.uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: agd@tcom.stc.co.uk (Alastair Doggett)
Subject: Re:    Souness the great Saten
Organization: BNR Europe, New Southgate, London.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 09:36:14 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.182015.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk> cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
>
>	A great poet and politician on the net. Welcome !! I see your company
>even issues computer accounts to the tea boys. I must say your article
>
>

  Indeed Sandy, I had to read the original article several times over just to
be sure that I hadn't missed any of the great bard's lyrical prose.  I've become
impervious to these garbled bits of anti-Rangers nonsense which have started to
appear, perhaps we should play these beggars at their own game.

  Petar Grannt is the anti-Chrest he, is a vichyus nasty man's and; should'nt
ever have bean.  allowed to tred on the same peice of turf as Souness the Saten.

  So get a dictionary S. Hughes and then maybe we can pick you to pieces over
your footballing arguments.

  Al the great Satin.

  P.S. Erm, Sandy, your comment concerning tea boys seems a little familiar,
something about cleaning staff at Strathclyde Uni in one of my articles I
believe.

-- 
Alastair Doggett. <agd@tcom.stc.co.uk> | "A geezer who's out of order  
BNR Europe,                            |    deserves a good slapping,
Oakleigh Road South,                   |      otherwise there'd be anarchy"   
London N11 1HB                         |        - Comms team code of conduct
From: RWG@buc.edu.au (Rod Griffin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: LEICESTER VS WOLVES
Date: 14 Sep 92 06:15:01 GMT
Organization: Ballarat University College
NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.132.8.8

CAN ANYONE GIVE ME THE SCORE OF THIS MATCH PLAYED SUNDAY 13/9 AND POSSIBLY A 
REPORT ALSO?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Scotland in Europe
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 19:18:35 GMT

> 
>>Ec1 - Rangers v Lyngby
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> A case of big against small but given the consistent rise in standard
>>of Danish football in recent years, this is no easy fixture for Rangers.

>Danish football has increased its standard: yes. Lyngby has: no. It's
>almost pathetic to see the performance of the Danish champions this
>year. Perhaps we can finally get rid of them in the best division.

>  2-0, 1-1

>More like 3-0,1-0 (as seen from the side of Rangers).

Hope this is not one of those Danish cover ups like they pulled in the
European Championships. Seriously, how bad are Lyngby ??

-- 
Sandy Mackinnon
University of Strathclyde
Glasgow
cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
From: cla04@seq1.keele.ac.uk (A.T. Fear)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Wembley
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:14:12 GMT
Organization: University of Keele, England

Any one know the capacity of Wembley now the horrible plastic 'seats' have been put
in?

Andy
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