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From: agwing@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (Andrew Wing)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: dreams as unrelated snippets
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:56:59 GMT
Organization: Temple University
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	The only dreams that I've posted are the longer ones I've been able
to remember.  I have all sorts of snippets just below my conciousness.  I can
only remember them just before falling asleep.  Maybe I'll try harder to get
some snippets down on paper and posts those, too.

		Andy Wing

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From: brownt@seq.uncwil.edu (brown todd francis)
Subject: Re: 1st time lucidity (sort of)
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:20:54 GMT

preiser@cancer.unm.edu (Doug Preiser) writes:

>In article <1993Jan27.150953.19006@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov>, tobritt@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Randall K. Britton) writes:
>>Hello Netters,
>>
>Plane surfing dream deleted.

>>Well, there was a little more to the dream after that but the rest is pretty 
>>unremarkable.  I'm not really sure what the dream "means" if anything at all.  
>>But believe me, being able to consciously decide to walk through the wall of 
>>the airplane and do something as ridiculous as ride an airplane wreck down a 
>>runway because I *wanted* to was a very powerful experience for me.  I do 
>>have a question however.  Is it common to have lucid dreams even when your 
>>not really trying to?  I thought you had to make a real concerted effort to 
>>do this.  Any comments?
>>
>>- Randy
>>
>>
>I've never had lucid dreams when I was trying to.  I'm usually in the middle of
>a dream when something tips me off that I'm dreaming.

>   Internet: preiser@cancer.unm.edu
>   Bitnet:   preiser@unmb


I have had many lucid dreams.  Usually they are spontaneous.  Nothing
appears to "tip me off" to the dream either...  It's just like all of
a sudden I "know" I am dreaming...  Then the fun begins.

This always leads to the inevitable question, "OK, so this is a dream.
What do I do now?"

I have often asked people this question in the dayworld.  I usually 
get a blank (or leary) stare.  Oftentimes the idea of sex comes up.

I have spent (read wasted) so much time in lucid dreams wondering
what to do...  Sometimes it is difficult to remember pre-arranged
experiments to try.  I guess I need to focus.


So how about it?  If you are dreaming right now (YES YOU!!!),
what would you do?  (Hint:  You are now omnipotent and can do
ANYTHING you desire, anything you can imagine...)


What would YOU do NOW?

Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: gj156879@alfred.carleton.ca ( gj student 156879)
Subject: Re: Dream'92 Experiment Results
Keywords: Dream'92
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 06:33:01 GMT

Well, I nearly made it to the ship, but never actually got there.  I
did have a few dreams about SHIPS, but not THE ship...
 
Just in case:

One dream involved fighting darth vader on a small rail/plank next to
a ship.  I fell off the boat, and realizing that I hate water (and
have a fear of it in dreams) I decided to bear with it, and see what
happened.  I turned into a wave and splashed about.  Very bizarre.

Another time, while lucid, I thought: "I'll get to the boat!  It's
wavy and like this and..."  The scenery became wavy and strange, but
nothing else happened.

The third one:  I summoned Moe the quadrapalegic angel (this is  a
character I made up and tried to summon a couple of times with
success)  I asked him to fly me to the boat, climbing on his back.  He
said he'd checked how far it was, and that he didn't think he could
fly that far.  I asked him if we could start going in this dream, and
then finish the trip in the next.  Then I became distracted with other
stuff...


Oh well...  It was still a neat idea.

                                        Nik


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From: gopher@picard.cs.wisc.edu (Chris Bovitz)
Subject: Re: Flying in dreams
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 05:15:55 GMT

In article <watpod78.727725435@cunews> watpod78@superior.carleton.ca (Phil Culhane) writes:
>Hi all.  God, I love this newsgroup.  Helps me to keep from feeling
>_too_ crazy!
>
>Re-subscribed to alt.dreams after a month off (not good to be reading
>newsgroups during exams) and decided, based on the topic at hand, to
>try my luck at flying.  I'd only experienced it once or twice before,
>but it's the greatest.  Anyone who found lucidity would give up drugs,
>I'm sure!
>
>Anyhow, only took two nights of telling myself "tonight I'm gonna
>fly."  Last night, somewhere in a dream, I said "hey, this is a dream,
>I'm lucid".  Of course, the biggest problem of making this realization
>is that I get so excited that I have to fight to stay asleep.  Common
>problem?  Relaxed a bit, then just decided to fly around for a while.

I get that same experience sometimes, less now that earlier in my life.
Once I get going, I discover it's great, but in the beginning, I float
up to about 30' above the ground and I think that I'm too far up, that 
if I stop flying I'll hurt myself when I hit the ground.  That feeling, 
too, disappears after a little while and I can do all kinds of maneuvers.

>Who needs drugs?  We have lucidity!    *grin*

You said it! :-)


Chris
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Organization: University of Central Florida--Computer Services
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 11:38:04 EST
From: Laura Kittleson <LAURA@UCF1VM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Talking in your dreams.

In article <C1HFBC.H18@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Virginia.A.Reed@dartmouth.edu
(Virginia A. Reed) says:
>
>Sometimes when I'm sleeping, but still aware of what's going on around
>me, in my dreams, I can only half-talk.   [dream example deleted]
>Now I believe that because I was semiconcious, the only way that I
>could have satisfied myself in the dream would be to actually say it-
>both in the dream and out. If you heard someone asleep say, "I fold the
>bread, I do not cut it," wouldn't you think that was a little odd?
>Has anyone else here ever had a similar experience or similar
>frustration in dream?
>Thanx
>-LX

Oh, I don't seem to have any difficulty talking in this state,
and yes, it is VERY odd, especially to one's S.O. or roommate
or parents or whoever is lucky enough to be around to hear it.
I woke myself up once saying, "Little yellow chickies" and
was so confused I couldn't hang on to the dream in memory, so
I have no inkling of why I would be saying this.

My mom and my ex both are used to this, and if they call while
I'm asleep, the conversation goes like this:

Them: Oh, you were asleep.
Me:  (long pause)   Yes.  I'm.   Asleep.
Then: Okay, hang up the phone.  I'll call you later.
Me:  (either a long pause or some total gibberish such as "little
      yellow chickies.")
Them: That's nice.  Hang up the phone now.
Me:  (long pause)    Okay.              Bye.

It took years before I was able to recognize this when I was
in the middle of it.  Now I can "tag" it in memory and
remember it when I wake up.  But for years, I had no clue
I was having conversations in my sleep.  My various college
roommates have found some of them very amusing.  And most
of these are in a semi-waking state, but I fight waking up
very hard, so it's easy for me to zonk right back out
(major understatement).

--Laura "can I take a nap now?" Kittleson
laura@ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu
speaking only for myself
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From: faught@convex.com (Danny R. Faught)
Subject: Re: Orgasm during dream
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:06:54 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1k1kcnINNdk0@cumin.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Paul V. Smith writes:
>then have to wipe down the bed and end up sleeping in a wet patch

That's just practice for when you have to argue with your girlfriend
over who has to sleep on the wet spot. :-)  :-)

Seriously, back in my formative years, when my body decided it was time for
the infamous nocturnal ejaculation, there was no stopping it, and I
could find little correlation between it and what I was dreaming.
Except that if I was dreaming at the time, no matter how mundane the dream
was, it would always become *very* erotic for those few moments. 

-- 
Danny Faught, Convex rookie, MPP project  (and happy to be here)
"Everything is deeply intertwingled." - Ted Nelson
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From: miket@hermes.tcs.com (Michael Turner nmscore Assoc.)
Subject: Re: Flying in Dream (power lines)...
Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:38:55 GMT

In article <1junp1INNcjp@apache.dtcc.edu> weave@apache.dtcc.edu (Ken Weaverling) writes:
>I hate metoo postings but...
>
>ME TOO!
>
>I am always paranoid of avoiding power lines when I fly. I realise it
>is a dream, but they often seem so realistic, that my subconscious 
>must convince myself that maybe this is some alternate universe crap
>and I shouldn't take the chance and come into contact with them...
>
>
>-- 
>Weave's 10/90 recipe for insanity: Take one programmer, divide into portions: 
>10% programming consisting of equal parts in systems and applications plus
>admin duties broken down into 20% for Unix, 5% PRIMOS, 10% hardware & network, 
>35% DOS/Windows, 10% news, 5% postmaster, and 5% babysitting IRC kiddies.

Hey, a workload like THAT and you're worried about running into some
stupid power-lines?  You should be so lucky!

Seriously, this sounds like a good lucidity experiment: what happens when
you hit the powerlines in a lucid dream?  Maybe something spectacularly
enjoyable, how do we know?

It could become the bungee-jumping of the 90s.

You first.
---
Michael Turner
miket@tcs.com
From: 002369c@axe.acadiau.ca (WILLIAM FREDERICK CUSTANCE)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re:dying in dreams
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:22:04 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

In response to B62088.student.cwru.edu:Dying in dreams ...
 
If you change your impression of your dream to one that is more open to the 
idea of leaving one's body inthe dream, you will be able to acheive 
something truly remarkable.
Think of the dream as not being scary. Although this can be difficult at 
times, it can and will be done. What part of the dream/nightmare frightens 
you the most when you dream of these types of dreams?
Yes, this is short.
I'll make up for that some time.
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From: badger@maths.tcd.ie (Richard Whitley)
Subject: looking for dream analysis
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 12:05:05 GMT

Last night as I drifted gently into a sleeping state I was alarmed to find myself in a most disturbing dream which I would appreciate comments on. I found myself in a carpark at night which was deserted apart from a car full of balaclaved 
youths who were listening to loud dance music and searching for me. I was aware of their interest in my whereabouts and crouched down in the dark , hoping 
that they couldn't see me. They all got out of the car and, looking for me, 
eventually one of them saw me. A pump-action shot-gun appeared in his hand and 
I suddenly had the realisation that I was going to die. He raised the but of thegun, much to my surprise, and brought it down heavily on my nose, which I felt
break nastily. I woke in a hospital bed(in the dream) and then woke for real.

  I wonder what all of this means!!!!!
  Replies to badger@maths.tcd.ie  (Richard Whitley )
From: nightsng@anarky.tch.org (Nightsong)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Flying in Dream (power lines)...
Date: 24 Jan 93 08:23:09 GMT
Organization: The Canned Ham, San Jose, CA (408) 971-8530

ulbricht@carson.u.washington.edu (Craig Ulbricht) writes:

> elze@gtewd.mtv.gsc.gte.com writes:
> 
> >In article <1itmhvINN8e0@pacific.cs.ubc.ca>, kevink@cs.ubc.ca (Kevin Kennedy
> >>>katherim@fraser.sfu.ca (Katherine Merle Mason) writes:
> >> 
> >>> >I too have had difficulty with power lines in flying dreams...
> >>> >
> >>> >It is quite interesting that I am not the only one who has experienced
> >>> >this.  If there is anyone else, please speak up.
> >> 
> >>  >I too had some lucid flying dreams where I had trouble getting past powe
> >>  >lines...
> >>  >Now to see it again mentioned here stretches the bounds of coincidence.
> >> 
> 
> >This is truly interesting.  I have had the same recurring dream every couple
> >years or so over my lifetime.  Any others?
> 
> Me too.  I found that after carefully finding my way through them a few times
> they haven't posed a threat, or even appeared for that matter, since then.
> 
> Craig.
> 


What is this about power lines and flying dreams?  Just this week, I had 
a dream where I was flying, but always kind of dropped to the ground 
around power lines and those huge transmitting things.  However, staying 
AWAY from that stuff, it was pretty enjoyable.  It also usually seems to 
be just a `given' that I avoid power lineswhile flying...

Once I actually was terribly afraid of them, butthat is rare..

-Nightsong

nightsng@anarky.tch.org
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From: angelai@wam.umd.edu (Angela I.)
Subject: Re: S.S Dreamers
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:01:26 GMT

In article <tmcfarla.727556141@sfu.ca> tmcfarla@fraser.sfu.ca (Tara McFarlane) writes:
>
>I was alos wondering if someone could email me with the results as well.
>I did make it onthe ship and left smoething, but I was unable to send a message
>to the referee. O well! 
>another time!
>
>TAra{
>tmcfarla@sfu.ca
>

I'm not sure when Allen (our 3rd person) gets back to campus, or maybe
he's already there.  (Allen, are ya there?) :)  Anyway, he should be
posting the results any day now.  Obviously, since the experiment
officially ended yesterday, he may still be getting email on it.

I never got there! :(:(:(

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From: jswyt@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John T Swyt)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: EXPERIMENT PROPOSAL
Keywords: Ignore this fool, he knows not what he thinks!
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:47:37 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University

>Now that people are interested in dream experiments again, I am
>reposting this.
>
>Proposal for another dream experiment:
>   Participants:
>   1) Attempt to dream about ELVIS.
>   2) If dreaming about Elvis, leave an object or objects with him.
>   3) Ask the King to show you other objects that people have left him.
>   4) E-mail the "third party"(unchosen as of yet), explaining what happened.
>   5) If you post your success, do NOT post the objects you saw or left!
>
>Comments: There are to be no unnecessary restrictions placed on the dream.
>  For example, you may dream about Elvis anywhere; Elvis may be fat
>  or thin, young or old; he doesn't even have to look like Elvis. He just
>  has to SEEM like Elvis in your dream. He can even be a she. There are no
>  restrictions on how to meet Elvis; this is YOUR dream.

     I'd prefer we'd all dream about ingenious ways to kill Elvis.....
     such as, tying a jelly doughnut around the neck of a grizzly bear
     and putting it in a room with "the King", although I fear the
     animal rights activists would have a fit about this one....
     the bear may be mentally and emotionally scarred for life....

                                        The Dog
From: teilaine@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Tei Laine)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Sleep-walking
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:55:59 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In <gj156879.727635881@cunews> gj156879@alfred.carleton.ca ( gj student 156879) writes:

>My little brother used to wander out of bed, walk around the house,
>and say very strange things to us that sounded paranoid and dream
>like.  Once he said something like:  "The ride is not for mommys" or
>something.

	When me and my little brother slept in the same room (age 11,13)
	I used to have quite an interesting time; once that little fellow came
	to look for money in my bed. He grubbed up my bed until I convinced
	him that there is no money (he did not wake up), and went back
	to his own bed.
	Some other night he ordered me out of my bed, because he wanted 
	go swimming there. 
	Sometimes he seemed to have some unexplainable trouble
	that he screamed out (no-one could make out what it was).

--
Tei Laine: University of Helsinki,Finland:teilaine@cc.Helsinki.FI
        -  Blood is thicker than water, and much tastier -
From: s_titz@ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Sleep-walking
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:59:34 GMT
Organization: Fachschaft math/inf, Uni Karlsruhe, FRG
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In article <gj156879.727635881@cunews> gj156879@alfred.carleton.ca ( gj student 156879) writes:

> I believe (vaguely remembered text book stuff here) that it is
> "common" for people to have sleep walking experiences when they are
> yound that go away when they get older...

Sleepwalking is apparently caused by the usual REM paralysis not
working properly, and is more common in children, since when they get
older, the mechanism matures and mostly gets to work finally. This is
what the scientists say :-)

Olaf
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From: gj156879@alfred.carleton.ca ( gj student 156879)
Subject: Kava Kava: how to use it?
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:16:41 GMT

Ok, I bought some powdered kava kava root.  Now what?  Someone posted
directions to make tea...  Are there any other ways to use ths
substance?  Warnings, methods, etc. all encouraged.  Email me or post
here.

                                                  Nik
From: phuyg@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr P V Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Orgasm during dream
Date: 24 Jan 1993 22:13:23 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
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In article <1993Jan24.204511.28527@fuug.fi> an3371@anon.penet.fi writes:
>Is it really possible to have a real orgasm during a dream (together
>with one in the dream)?  And is it possible to wake up during an
>orgasm?  Sometimes I'll be dreaming, but I always wake up before the
>orgasm actually occurs.

  When i was younger i had quite a few 'wet' dreams, and usually woke
up just after orgasm, but needless to say, this was messy and i really hated
having to creep into the bathroom with shorts sticking to my legs to clean
off, so i decided to try to stop myself from doing so, the best way i could
think of was to wake myself up instead, anyway, during the period of trying
to wake up b4 orgasm, i once woke up during it, and in the dream i was
at the same stage of orgasm too.. this is just personal experience tho',
and may vary from person to person.. btw, in the end i've manage to
stop myself from messing up my shorts, thank god!!

Paul V. Smith
From: Virginia.A.Reed@dartmouth.edu (Virginia A. Reed)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Talking in your dreams.
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:18:48 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
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Sometimes when I'm sleeping, but still aware of what's going on around
me, in my dreams, I can only half-talk.
For example, the other morning, I was semiconcious, and I was dreaming
that a Judge was asking me about how I make peanut butter sandwiches, I
felt myself answer it, but I hadn't actually said it in my dream. So I
tried to respond again, and it was as if I somply could not get the
words out. It REALLY frustrated me that I couldn't say it.
Now I believe that because I was semiconcious, the only way that I
could have satisfied myself in the dream would be to actually say it-
both in the dream and out. If you heard someone asleep say, "I fold the
bread, I do not cut it," wouldn't you think that was a little odd?
Has anyone else here ever had a similar experience or similar
frustration in dream?
Thanx
-LX
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From: graeme@drummond.demon.co.uk (Graeme Hillary)
Subject: Re: Dying in dreams
Reply-To: graeme@drummond.demon.co.uk
Distribution: world
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:23:47 +0000

In article <son.2.728020616@po.cwru.edu> son@po.cwru.edu (Steve Nelson) writes:

> 	Hey, does anyone else die in their dreams?

I always wake up before I actually die - it has never gone on to a 
conclusion.  I do however often dream of murdering people - not just
dreaming that I've done it, but the physical act of doing it!  I've
killed about 7 people at last count, through various methods, e.g. smashing
head against wall, stabbed with letter opener, slit throat, etc.

Maybe I creep into your dreams and murder you (though I'm not responsible
for any that you have mentioned so far!)  :-)

===Graeme
From: Peter_Mcnamee@kumear.apana.org.au (Peter Mcnamee)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Weird experience...
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:58:33 GMT
Organization: The DUNGEON BBS

In a message dated Sun 25 Jan 93 18:25, Ctorres@cco.caltech.edu (chon David
wrote:

 CD> had no correlation to eachother. That was the same camp where i was
 CD> seen
 CD> walking around the cabin in my sleeping bag.

You know what a worse thing is?  Let me tell you...

I don't sleep with anything on...not even in winter.  What's bad is that
when you get up the next morning and your mum says "Do you remember sleep
walking last night?" and then goes on to descibe how she came out of her
room to see this white butt  going up a dark hallway! :)

cheers.

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