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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 11:45:55 EDT
From:         Robert=H.=Whelan%CIS%DFCI@RHYS.DFCI.HARVARD.EDU
Subject:      SystemPro LT

Can anyone comment on Compaq SystemPro LT backup devices?  Specifically, we
are interested in the 8mm 2.2G Exabyte internal device.  We have standardized
on the 2.2G Tape media and a DAT drive is not an option.

Also, if anyone has any experiences using the SystemPro LT unit in their
environment, I'd be interested.

Any information is greatly appreciated! (and will help save time)

Bob

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Bob Whelan
Dana-Farber Cancer Institute
Boston, MA
Addr: whelan@farber.harvard.edu
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X-Nupop-Charset: English
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:41:37 CST
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From:         "Jonathan Lewis" <casbah.acns.nwu.edu@[129.105.113.52]>
Subject:      Re: Is it possible to use POP clients with BANYAN ?

In Message Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:36:03 EDT,
  "Elliott Coates" <coates%UMUC.UMD.EDU@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU> writes:

>It is a mail protocol just as SMTP is a mail protocol specified in RFC 822.
>FTP's TCP/IP, for one, supports POP over its TCP/IP transport.
>
The Post Office Protocol (POP) is a client/server protocol.  NUpop is a
public domain program for receiving, composing and sending internet mail
without having to logon to the mail server and use a mail program like ELm
(for example).  You read and edit the mail, enclose attachments, etc on the
microcomputer.  In our case we are using it to replace Banyan mail because the
cost of the SMTP gateway and the difficulty in supporting it seemed too
high.  At the same time we did not want the users to have to learn the
intricacies of a mail system like ELM.  NUpop is very easy to use and it
uses a windows-like interface.  It runs under MS-Windows as a DOS
application.

Jonathan Lewis
jclewis@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 08:36:40 EST
From:         Stephan=Sas%SYS%AGR@CC3.KULEUVEN.AC.BE
Subject:      re: starting appletalk

Thanks for all hints, helps, jokes...


rebuilding the drivers and rebooting the server corrected the problem


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What a list...... as one always can say....some like it hot
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steph
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:42:46 MDT
From:         devildog@TECNET1.JCTE.JCS.MIL
Subject: [ANS] RE: INVALID PASSWORDS AGAIN!

elliot,

I know several people (myself included) who have experienced this phenomenon
albeit on a MUCH smaller scale (one or two users a week).

while I do not know the cause and therefore cannot offer a solution to your
problem (and mine), I can suggest a way for you to treat the symptom.

NETPRO (Scottsdale, AZ) sells a package of administrator utilities.  Included
inthe package is a program that will parse your StreetTalk users into a file.
Another program (Set_user) will read this file and reset the password (among
other things) for every user in it.

NETPRO will send you a working demo if you give them a call.  I don't have the
number handy, but it is in the ABUI magazine.  Also, I noticed two netpro.zip
files on csus.edu.  These may contain the same demos.They are over 1M each and
reside in the 'pub/banyan/demos:' subdirectory.

Hope this helps.

Roland
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 11:13:26 EDT
From:         Shirley Rodgers <D1SLR@AKRONVM.BITNET>
Subject:      5-10-20

Since the discussion on 5-10-20 last week, I have spoken to Larry Gauthier at
the University of Michigan. He was the person who asked the question in the
Banyan Q&A at ABUi in Chicago. He said the issue has been addressed. There is
an official liscensing policy statement on the 5-10-20 product. Any interested
in receiving this immediately should call 1-800-2Banyan. I've talked with
Banyan about this and they are suppose to send me the policy statement in
electronic form. When I receive it I'll post it to Banyan-L.

Shirley Rodgers
SRodgers@Uakron.edu
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From: fu531abz@fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Sven Bleschke)
Subject: update vines/386 4.0 to 5.0 
Organization: Freie Universitaet Berlin, FRG
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:50:39 GMT

Hi!
 I have a little problem. I have Vines/386 Unlimited 4.0 and I want a upgrade 
to 5.0. The problem is that I want the 5.0 version running on a 486.Does anybodyknows how to upgrade from a 386 to 486?
Thanks for help
Sven



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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:52:22 EDT
From:         Shawn Farrell <INSF@MCGILLB.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: OS/2 2.0 DOS Windows

Larry,

It was suggested to me to load the Banyan drivers into a VDM via the
boot from A: or image boot within OS/2 2.0.  I will give that a try
tonight.  I was not able to load any Banyan drivers (even into low
memory) from a DOS window or full screen session.

Shawn Farrell
Merck Frosst

insf@musicb.mcgill.ca
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 02:57:06 PDT
From:         Craig Armstrong <craiga@SPOCK.DIS.CCCD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Is it possible to use POP clients with BANYAN ?

>
> I am wondering if it is possible to use a POP client (NUPOP is my
> case) on a PC that is connected on BANYAN.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Herman-
>

For those of us who are not sure what a POP client (or NUPOP) is, could
you be more specific! :-) Can't help much without details!

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*  Coast Community College District            (714) 432-5066              *
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 10:53:04 AUS
From:         Brian=Tehan%CC.staff%Swinburne@BUSTER.CC.SWIN.EDU.AU
Subject: re: usenet news

RE: Trumpet news reader. At the end is the documentation which comes with
newsx.exe which is the 'shim' program. I understand that it allows PC/TCP and
the newsreader to cooperate rather than using the FTP protocol stack (I'm no
expert on this subject).
If you have Ibanyan or Ebanyan, substitute for Ethdrv. We found that it would
work until the news program, which is started by the 'shim' program, was
renamed to news2.exe (news.exe did not work). We have version 2.05 of PC/TCP.
I got the newsx.exe program from the University of Tasmania ftp server but it
is available elsewhere (see below)
The following is from an archie search on the file newsftp.zip (don't go to
Tasmania from Europe or the U.S.!)

Host tasman.cc.utas.edu.au   (131.217.10.1)
Last updated 02:57 11 Sep 1992

    Location: /pc/trumpet/abi-version
      FILE      rw-r--r--     24767  Aug 13 05:39   newsftp.zip

Host dorm.rutgers.edu   (128.6.18.15)
Last updated 01:42 10 Sep 1992

    Location: /pub/msdos/trumpet/abi-version
      FILE      rw-r--r--     24767  Aug 13 01:39   newsftp.zip

Host sifon.cc.mcgill.ca   (132.206.27.10)
Last updated 03:01  3 Sep 1992

    Location: /pub/news/readers
      FILE      rw-r--r--     24767  Aug 20 18:33   newsftp.zip

archie>

There are 2 files:
newsftp.zip (newsx.exe).
newsabi.zip (the news reader) - rename newsabi.exe to news2.exe.
These must be kept in the same directory. You must do a setup first to point
to the news host and also to name a file to store the news groups information.

Brian Tehan			Email: brian@banyan.swin.edu.au
Data Communications
Swinburne University of Technology
Melbourne, Australia

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Newsx is a wrapper program for Peter Tattam's TRUMPET news reader.
Newsx enables reading/posting of news using FTP Software's PC-TCP kernel.
Newsx is compatible with FTP Software kernels 2.0 and 2.1.

A batch file that reads news on my system:

\pctcp\ethdrv        (replace with ibanyan or ebanyan - B.T.)
newsx                (calls news2.exe also - B.T.)
\pctcp\inet unload

During news/mail posting error messages from the FTP kernel are randomly
scattered on the screen. Posting seems to work properly. Reading works just
fine.

================================================================
Sean D. True
Rational Systems, Inc.
seant@ratsys.com -- uunet!rational!seant
================================================================

Comment from Peter R. Tattam
----------------------------

This program is provided AS IS.  Please pass any comments to the above
address.

The distributed name of the abi-version of Trumpet is newsabi.exe.  This may
need to be renamed to news.exe or news2.exe

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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:37:35 EDT
From:         Frank Dragotto <CSR@NIHCU.BITNET>
Subject:      Question for ABUI

Question to pose to Banyan Management for attendees
of the up-coming ABUI conference, PLEASE:

1. When will the license issues be clarified for
using VINES 5-10-20 for Applications Servers?

2. When will they proivde us with a REASONABLE
upgrade from CNS Vines to Vines unlimited or SMP?

3. When oh when will they offer to provide us with
their documentation in digital format?

If you are planning on attending the ABUI conference
please try to get some response from Banyan on these issues.
I'm sure that there are other questions for the list, perhaps
someone who is going to the conference could collect them.
Thank You!
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:03:26 EDT
From:         Shirley Rodgers <D1SLR@AKRONVM.BITNET>
Subject:      re: 5-10-20
              15 Sep 1992 09:37:46 EDT from
              <David=Blair%ComputerSrvcs%WILL@BIGBIRD.WILL.UIUC.EDU>

We are hoping to have the "Put a face to the Name" party for Banyan-l and
Compuserve again at ABUi conference. More details later.

Shirley Rodgers
SRodgers@uakron.edu
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:13:26 CDT
From:         FFore%CTC%SwRI26@D15VS178A.SPACE.SWRI.EDU
Subject:      re: OS/2 2.0 DOS Windows

   Shawn,

	I have at one time run the DOS Banyan drivers in a full screen DOS
Window.  You cannot, however, do this if you install the OS/2 2.0 LA drives
(which work great BTW).  The only way I could run the DOS drivers was to
install a separate Ethernet board and dedicate it to that DOS machine in a
window.  This involved taking a bootable DOS diskette, using VMDISK to make a
DOS image and setting that DOS image as the boot device in your DOS settings
for that DOS window.  Using this approach limits all Banyan functions to only
that window.  None of the network drives are available anywhere else in OS/2.
Using the OS/2 2.0 LA drivers, you have all Banyan services available anywhere
on the desktop.  Hope this helps.

-Frank Fore, Southwest Research Institute, S.A., TX
 Internet: fpf@swri.edu
From: pha@sbfdk.sbf.dk (Per Henning Arup)
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Subject: ( Re: 5.0 performance) 4.11 cachesize ??
Date: 4 Sep 92 10:21:43 GMT
Organization: Great Belt ltd. Denmark

In article <0095FE49.885187C0.25962@umuc.umd.edu> coates@UMUC.UMD.EDU (Elliott Coates) writes:
>In general it seems 4k is optimal.  For heavy database app servers - 8k, for
>heavy spreadsheet app servers - 2K.  The happy median with wordprocessing - 4k.

.. in version 5.0

I am running 4.11(5) with 3Mb cache in 8k blocks. I chose 8k to match the
DOS cluster size. I guessed that:
a:  DOS would read 8k minimum (one cluster)
b:  it would be more efficient to manage one 8k-block than two 4k-blocks

Something doesn't match here, - a, b or me ??

I will try the other blocksizes soon - any 4.11(5)-experience would be
appreciated.
( or take this as another idea to the FAQ-list )

                            Thanx, Per Henning Arup
                                   Great Belt Link
                                   Vester Soegade 10 / DK-1601 Kbh. V
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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 22:05:01 -0700
From:         Tanu Kartawiria <tanu@CSULB.EDU>
Subject:      RE: INVALID PASSWORDS AGAIN!

This is a perfect candidate for FAQ list.
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 10:20:13 MED
From:         Brynjulf=Mauring%System%Bygg.KT@BANYAN.MTI.SINTEF.NO
Subject:      Server hanging

Can somebody help me with this one ?
I have some trouble with one of my servers. It has hung a couple of times the
last week. Before that it has run reliable for 6 months.
The server is a 33/486 EISA machine with Adaptec SCSI EISA controller and a
NE3200 Ethercard. Here's parts of my system log:

=============================================================
       Server name         : Server13
       Serial number       : 2106668
       Software Revision   : 4.11 (5)
       Machine Type        : V386
       Log report started  : Mon Sep  7 10:31:37 MED 1992
       Events logged after : 9/01/92,00:00
       Events logged before: 9/07/92,10:00
       Services selected   : SYSTEM
=============================================================
.
.
.
/disk1/banyan/bfs/conos2.db database
    Platform:   OS2.
    Country:    USA.

    Missing :       PCINIT./VINESPRN.SYS
       Missing files :  1
       Modified files:  0

    STATUS:  1 VINES Files inconsistencies
.
.
.
Console message at Mon Sep  7 08:13:39 1992

[16;1Hprocess_rx(): cannot get mbuf

(Comment: Several of these messages)
===============================================

To get the server up an running, I have to press Ctrl+Alt+Del.
It seems that one of the files are missing, but I don't know if that's causing
the hangup problem. Anyone ..?

- Brynjulf
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Brynjulf Mauring                    Internet:   brynjulf.mauring@mti.unit.no
The Norwegian Inst. of Technology   VINES-mail: brynjulf mauring@system@bygg.kt
Div. of Structural Engineering      Phone:      47-7-595217
7034 Trondheim, Norway              Fax:        47-7-597137
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 08:33:49 DST
From:         WK=Chu%NWB%CCA@INET-GW.DIENST.VU.NL
Subject:      re: Inteligent Messaging System upgrade

I had heard that Vines 5.00(5) has this (VIMS) function built in. Is it true?
Or will this function later be included in the mail option?

!?!?


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Wan Kong Chu, Network Administrator
Vrije Universiteit, The Netherlands
SMTP address WK.Chu@dienst.vu.nl
fax: ..-31-20-6428998     tel. ..-31-20-5487075
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Date:         Sun, 6 Sep 1992 01:54:18 EDT
From:         Russel=Grocott%ITS=Staff%CURTIN@BA1.CURTIN.EDU.AU
Subject:      re: starting appletalk

I have just done device driver forced rebuild and can confirm that the
Appletalk now works properly.  All comes up fine and the logs indicate a
healthy status.  Thanks for the tips one and all.

Cheers
	Russel (email :- grocottr@ba1.curtin.edu.au)
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:03:47 EST
From:         Stephan=Sas%SYS%AGR@CC3.KULEUVEN.AC.BE
Subject: Re: update vines/386 4.0 to 5.0

What about an upgrade from a BNS 4.00(5) towards Vines unlimited on a 486
vines (5) platform....In other words I try to rebuild the complete system
on the 486 5.0(5) using a tape backup of the BNS.....

I bought the upgrade....that just included a new unlimited key...and
poor documentation

stephan
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:04:26 EDT
From:         "Elliott Coates" <coates@UMUC.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Updating lists

>Is there anyway/program that will search out my old id in
>all lists and replace it with my new one???

It's likely that Netpro makes such a utility.

Elliott Coates
coates@umuc.umd.edu
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:59:15 CDT
From:         GARY=SINTON%TTI=BUSINESS%TTI@TTIADMIN.TAMU.EDU
Subject:      re: COM3: for Dialin?

Nope. In spite of what it says in the documentation, you can use only COM1:
or COM2:
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 11:05:47 PDT
From:         MA=Crist%Info_Sys%STG_IS@DSO3.DSD.TRW.COM
Subject:      re: SystemPro LT

David,

We're fairly pleased with the 1740.  The only problem is that in a Banyan
server, it's capabilities are not yet exploited (it's forced to emulate a
1542B).  I've beat up on Banyan 'till I'm blue in the face to provide an
enhanced driver, but no luck so far.  If they ever do, it'll be a screamer in
a Systempro.

Hey, you Compaq guys out there, howz about applying some pressure from your
end?

Mike Crist
TRW
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 10:20:18 PDT
From:         MA=Crist%Info_Sys%STG_IS@DSO3.DSD.TRW.COM
Subject: Re: Is it possible to use POP clients with BANYAN ?

So, what does POP give you that SMTP doesn't (i.e. binary file transfers)?

Mike Crist
TRW
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 09:35:19 EST
From:         Stephan=Sas%SYS%AGR@CC3.KULEUVEN.AC.BE
Subject:      re: Hurray!

Even hurray to Banyan for Vines on Hp PA-RISC........
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 08:47:04 EDT
From:         Thomas=C.=Gray%NetAdmin%CSS@BDRC-BANYAN.MED.UNC.EDU
Subject:      RE: StreetTalk Woes - StreetTalk Flu

An ugly, yet effective cure:

   Reset the network time to 97 hours from the current time.  Wait one
day.  Reset network time back to normal.


tom gray, network administrator
UNC Chapel Hill
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 09:47:14 CDT
From:         JZeevi%users%swri03@D26VS046A.CCF.SWRI.EDU
Subject:      re : HELP!

Well, it is now 10:45 am and things are about wrapped up regarding my plea for
help regarding getting a new disk on-line. I would like to pass on the
learning I received :

	IF you want to make a disk that was previously a boot disk (/disk1)
into a second (third, fourth, ...) drive you MUST low-level format the first
track. (or DOS format it, at least). This will allow the "Making File service
on new disk" section of the add a new disk stuff work properly. Otherwise,
while it SEEMS to create a new file service, it does not change track 0 and
VINES recognizes it as having the same label as the primary disk, therefore
not making it available for use.

	NOTE : (and I am upset with BANYAN over this) THIS IS NOT DOCUMENTED
ANYWHERE THAT I COULD TELL IN THE 5.00 MANUAL SET.

	I am very pleased with the support I have received over this (related
to another) problem from Banyan (I worked directly with their engineering
staff) HOWEVER, came across TWO pieces of information (one above, and one
other) that ARE NOT DOCUMENTED FOR END USERS - only VARs (for one piece, the
other was known by a Banyan engineer)

	Well, thanks to those who responded. And best of luck with your
problems.

	josef
	jzeevi@swri.edu

p.s. You might ALWAYS ask your VAR if there is ANY documentation available
about whatever system/problem you are having. It would have saved us 5 (FIVE)
months.....
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:55:59 EDT
From:         David=Blair%ComputerSrvcs%WILL@BIGBIRD.WILL.UIUC.EDU
Subject:      re: Disk 1 replacement

I agree with Chris  you need to reformat the drive to remove the NOS.  Unless
you with a program that actually moves the NOS to another drive or deletes the
NOS.

	-dlb
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 10:38:28 EDT
From:         Ken=Volpe%Tech=Support%Banyan@MAGNOLIA.BANYAN.COM
Subject:      subscribe /L kvolpe@banyan.com

subscribe /L
kvolpe@banyan.com
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:59:59 PDT
From:         MA=Crist%Info_Sys%STG_IS@DSO3.DSD.TRW.COM
Subject:      re: Is it possible to use POP clients with BANYAN ?

OK, I'll be first:  What the heck is POP??


Mike Crist
TRW
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:48:11 CDT
From:         FFore%CTC%SwRI26@D15VS178A.SPACE.SWRI.EDU
Subject:      VINES on SCO UNIX

   Thanks to Laura Z. for the Banyan marketing notices uploaded to csus.edu!

I tried to decipher the MN230-P notice about VINES on SCO UNIX and found it
difficult to wade through all the marketing hype about exactly what a UNIX
client will be able to do when connected to a VINES on SCO UNIX server.  One
statement said that a UNIX client will ONLY be able to execute the
'Z:\OPERATE' command from the 'Z' drive (mounted via NFS, I suppose?).

We have a large installed base of SUN Sparc workstations whose users have
expressed an interest (surprised the *#$& out of me) in connecting to our
Banyan network.  They are especially interested in using the VINES directory
services.  Is it possible for a SUN workstation to be a client on a VINES on
SCO UNIX server and use STDA in some manner?

-Frank Fore, Southwest Research Institute, S.A., TX
 Internet: fpf@swri.edu
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:36:13 EDT
From:         R=Stoll%SysAdmin%7CG@LGGATE2.HQ.AF.MIL
Subject:      Progress on the FAQ

I'd like to thank everyone for their inputs for the FAQ.  Sepcial thanks
go to Laura Z. who sent me a *Huge* list of things to cover - essentially
the collective knowledge of Banyan's Tech Support Section.  She's
promised me more stuff too.  In the next few days, I'll post an outlline
with the general form of how I'd like to present the information so that
you all can comment on it.

Also, please keep in mind that I might need to solicit some help in
writing the articles.  If you'd like to help out, please send me a
message after I post the outline and let me know what article you'd like
to contribute.


SSgt Robert Stoll
7th Communications Group
The Pentagon

rstoll@lggate2.hq.af.mil

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