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From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: Help - Cyrix processors, anyone know for sure?
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:50:54 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <15120@suns4.crosfield.co.uk>, pdg@crosfield.co.uk (paul goffin) writes:
| I've tried to ask this before and got no replies.
| 
| Does anyone _know_ for _certain_ if the
| new Cyrix processors are "plug-in" replacements
| for the Intel 80386 devices or not?
| 
| Or are PC motherboard changes needed?
| 
| I know there are at least two Cyrix chips
| around, both offering 80486SX instruction
                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| sets and approx. performance, and that
| one is a bit like a 80386SX (pinout wise)
| and the other is a bit like a 80386DX.
| 
| But, to repeat the question, does anyone know
| if they can be dropped into an unmodifed 80386
| PC motherboard?  If they can, has anyone out
| there done it?  Is there a gain in performance?

  I think you just answered your own question. A 386 BIOS will not work
well (if at all) with a 486, because the cache controller is unknown to
it. I wouldn't even try it, based on having tried a 386 BIOS on a 486
motherboard without success.

  If it did work I would expect it to be quite slow without enabling the
cache.

  That's not a "for sure" answer, but it's based on some real experience
and some solid reasons why I wouldn't expect it to work.
-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
    I admit that when I was in school I wrote COBOL. But I didn't compile.
From: wolff@dutecai.et.tudelft.nl (Rogier Wolff)
Subject: Re: Kralok hard drives
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:44:24 GMT

ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:
>Their small 20-40 Meg drives have an excellent reputation 
>though. 

>Their big drives are supposedly stepper motor drives (every
>one else has gone to voice coil). 

I had a kalok 3100, 105Mb hard drive. It gives off extra interrupts
when in interrupt mode. This gives problems while running Minix/Linux
or when using a disk cache program (Hyperdisk). I was able to
trade it in for a larger non-kalok drive. I am very happy with this
situation.

					Roger
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: burkert1@platon.fmi.uni-passau.de (Klaus Burkert)
Subject: Re: ET4000 upgrade to hicolor
Keywords: ET4000 hicolor
Organization: University of Passau, W-Germany
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 23:53:00 GMT

In article <eckartwe.714304125@unknown> eckartwe@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Martin Eckart-Weissbaecker) writes:
>Hi,
>I'll upgrade my ET4000 card with a hicolor DAC.
>Which one shall I use?
>
>I think there is a IC from Sierra called 
>SC 11486-66 and a SC 11487, oh I found another
>SC 11483.

The SC-11486 was the original HiColor-chip, it's not available anymore.
The SC-11483 is the 11486's successor, the 11487 is for XGA and offers
64K colors in addition to 32K but I'm not sure if it's available in the
standart 28-DIP-footprint the 11483 and/or 11486 normally use.

The price depends heavily on the dealer, about 3/4 year ago I paid
75.- DM for a SC-11483-66 (the 66 is the maximum pixel-clock it can take)
and that wasn't too cheap... 

Ciao, Klaus.

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Klaus Burkert        email: burkert1@kirk.fmi.uni-passau.de
Brandweg 11          voice: +49-851/83993 (only pm please)
D-W-8390 Passau   /  Federal Republic of Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: RFowler@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Robert A. Fowler)
Subject: WinTV WARNINGS
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:44:57 GMT

WARNINGS:

I just got my WinTV card (its been on order for 3 weeks) and I was 
unpleasantly surprised at:

1. You have to order the video input cable as an Option (costs extra).

2. IT WILL NOT WORK (for video capture and other stuff) UNLESS YOU HAVE 
<15 MBYTES OF MEMORY (ISA strikes again), which is kind of hard to do 
when you only have 4x 4Mb sims (16Mbytes).  

3. It might not work with the ATI Graphics Ultra (I didn't get a picture, 
just a purple window and sound, but that might have been due to problem 2), 
I used the vga pass through cable, because the Ultra doesn't have a feature 
connecter, and I did try it with the MS VGA driver, the ATI 640x480x16/256 
driver and the 800x600x16/256 driver.
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From: rcg1597@zeus.tamu.edu (GUYNN, RICHARD CARL)
Subject: Re: Performance difference between 486SLC, 386DX-40 and 486DX-25,33
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:08:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.023155.8508@zeos.com>, kgermann@zeos.com (Ken Germann) writes...
>The SLC sits at about 65-72 on the SI rating for Norton. Cyrix markets it
>as being equal to the Intel 486SX-25. Databooks are available on the 486SLC
>from Cyrix. The SLC has a 16 bit bus. The 486SX and 386DX have a 32 bit bus.


	Are you absolutely certain about those SI numbers?  I have a friend with 
a 486sx-20 that runs around a 45 on SI, the 25 couldn't be too much faster, and 
I thought I'd seen somebody post up a number of around 65 for their dx33.  I 
read some articles a while ago that said the SLC was sitting somewhere between a 
386-33 and a 386-40.  My 386-40 runs around a 44 on SI.  I'm just curious, post 
or mail me a listing of articles with some information if you would.  Thanks.

-Rick

Xref: sparky comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:22397 comp.sys.intel:1551
From: mslater@mpr.com (Michael Slater)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: Help - Cyrix processors, anyone know for sure?
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 23:21:57 PST
Organization: Microprocessor Report
Reply-To: mslater@mpr.com
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1

In article <Bt91A8.212@nntp-sc.Intel.COM> (comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.intel), cpurkis@gomez.intel.com (Clif Purkiser) writes:
> My understanding is that the performance gain from the Cyrix
> chip is due largely from the cache. 

Well, yes and no. The cache is necessary, but not sufficient, for
the performance gain. The CPU core in the Cyrix part is much faster
(in clocks per instruction) than the Intel 386, though not quite as
fast as the 486. The cache is required, however, to keep the CPU fed,
since the 386 bus doesn't have enough bandwidth to keep the core running
at full speed.

Michael Slater, Microprocessor Report              mslater@mpr.com
P.O. Box 2438, Sebastopol CA 95473  707/823-4004  fax 707/823-0504
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: pvonk@scott.skidmore.edu (Pierre VonKaenel)
Subject: EISA - for the rest of us?
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY, 12866
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 17:54:52 GMT

I will soon be "upgrading" my computer (buy a new one).  In looking
over the Dell catalog, I keep jumping between an ISA and an EISA
machine.  Having a microchannel now, I am aware of the simplicity of
adding adapters and the relief from interrupt shortages in the MC bus.
But, since ISA today offers more interrupt numbers than in the old
days, I'm looking for other advantages of the EISA.  One thing
mentioned from time to time is the added band width and speed.  EISA
is often mentioned in the same breadth as SERVER, but what about a
personal machine?  What does EISA offer for the advanced user?

I use OS/2, spreadsheets, WP, comm, compilers, and others.  The Dell
offers an EISA SCSI 32 bit controller from Adaptec and the model I'm
looking at includes the ATI Ultra graphics card.  The motherboard
takes up to 96 MB ram, so I don't need a super bus just for an added
memory board, since I doubt I'll ever need one (famous last words).
Does EISA offer advantages in

a)  graphics (I don't think the ATI is EISA)? 
b)  SCSI hard disks (using the Adaptec controller vs. an ISA SCSI).

What else does it offer for a non-server?  The EISA machine is only
$250 more, but EISA boards are *very* expensive!

Thanks for any help...



-- 
Pierre von Kaenel	| Skidmore College	     | pvonk@scott.skidmore.edu
Math & CS Dept.		| Saratoga Springs, NY 12866 | (518)584-5000 Ext 2391
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From: tgtbtk@tb3.chem.tue.nl (Toine Kuiper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: QIC-40 vs. QIC-80 formats?
Date: 21 Aug 92 07:44:21 GMT
Reply-To: tgtbtk@chem.tue.nl

>The 120 uses QIC-40 and the 250 uses QIC-80, regardless of the tape.
>Also, the 250 can *read* the 120's tapes, but that's all as far as it
>goes.

I can read QIC40 tapes from the CMS120 on my CMS250 (I am using CPbackup
7.1)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Subject: Re: Serial ports with 16550 UART
Reply-To: 70465.203@compuserve.com
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:17:57 GMT

root@mordor.com (Chris Mauritz - SysGod) writes:

>Does anyone know of a good source for a ISA bus communication
>port with the 16550AFN UART?  I haven't had any luck tracking
>one down and most computer sales types don't even know what a
>UART is.  What is the going rate for a 2 port card?  For what
>it's worth, I'm using a 486-33 ISA machine.

Just tell them that you need a card with the UARTs *socketed*. 
Then buy a pair of 16550AFN chips...

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From: d8hanma@dtek.chalmers.se (Martin Hansson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Error 1701 Fixed disk POST error, what does it mean?
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:28:52 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

I ran diagnostics on a pc and came up with 1701. What does it mean?
The HD doesn't work (thats why I ran diagnostics) but is it fixable?
And if so how?. BTW it's an old AT (AT-AQ I think) with a type 20 HD.

Any help is apriciated.

        /Martin

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: jdg@devine.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Jim Griggers)
Subject: Symphony chipset Info needed
Originator: jdg@devine.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM
Keywords: Symphony, chipset
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 13:23:24 GMT

Does anyone have a phone number and address for Symphony?  I want to
get the data sheets for their 486 chipset.  Thanks

-Jim Griggers   jdg@devine.columbiasc.ncr.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: jld@datascope.com (Jay L. Davis)
Subject: Re: Is the maxtor 213 meg a good buy at $470?
Organization: Datascope Corp.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:42:58 GMT

In article <jpl1.713643195@Ra.MsState.Edu> jpl1@Ra.MsState.Edu (John Patrick Lestrade) writes:
>f you have had any experience with this drive, I would appreciate
>your feedback.  thanks
>
>--
>John Patrick Lestrade, PhD                             jpl1@ra.msstate.edu
>Department of Physics and Astronomy                    batse::lestrade  (SPAN)
>Mississippi State University, MS 39762                 lestrade@msstate.bitnet


I have the older 209 Meg drive and the new 213 meg drive. There have been
no problems with either drive. They are very fast and very quiet. As far
as the price goes, if thats for a new drive, that's good. For a used one,
it depends on how old it is.

---Jay Davis
From: "kenneth tam" <kenneth.tam@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: pas noise problems
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:30:39 EST
Reply-To: "kenneth tam" <kenneth.tam@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

I've got a PAS+ and PAS16, and experience some pretty serious background
static/hiss when I sample files.  I've tried various IRQ's, DMA'S,
physical slots, and I'm running the latest DOS and Windows drivers, yet
every time I sample something I can hear a constant hissing in the
background.  It's loud enough to seriously detract from the quality of
the audio.  Sample at 44kHz, 16-bit, doesn't seem to make any
difference.. no combination of sampling rate and 8/16 bit mode seems to
get rid of it.  I'm recording off a CD player that's hooked up via the
external jack..

Anyone have similar problems and know the solution?  Is this sort of
thing actually NORMAL?

kenneth.tam@canrem.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: khioe@mona.jpl.nasa.gov (Kent Hioe)
Subject: Need information on Zyxel modem.
Followup-To: khioe@juno.jpl.nasa.gov
Keywords: Zyxel modem.
Organization: jpl
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:39:44 GMT


Hi, Does any body use Zyxel modem ?
I purchased Zyxel modem recently and am having problem in sending/receiving
Fax through the FAX utility program that comes with it.

Does any body now their BBS or Tech phone number of Zyxel ?


Thank you.


--
Kent.
khioe@juno.jpl.nasa.gov



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From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
Subject: Syquest Removable drive info wanted
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 06:52:28 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.

I have in my possession a Syquest Model SQ555 44 mb removable media hard
drive.  this scsi interfaced drive was adapted to the Mac with an interface
board.  with the board removed, there is a standard 50 pin header for the
SCSI and a row of pins that is presumably  the device address and other
stuff.  The adaptor board switched these with some logic from the interface.

I need some info.

*	What is needed to interface this drive to a PC using an Adaptec
	1542b controller?  Drivers?

*	What are the functions of the pins to the left of the SCSI connector
	looking in from the rear?

*	Lacking anything else, how to I contact Syquest.  They don't seem to 
	advertise in any of the PC rags I get.

Thanks in advance.
John

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: u009@csx.cciw.ca (G. Stewart Beal)
Subject: Re: Lap Link Serial And Parallel Pin-outs
Organization: Canada Centre for Inland Waters
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:00:59 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.231701.20520@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> CS19240898X@LUST2.LATROBE.EDU.AU (MINNELLI, DAVID) writes:
>
>
>To Lap-Link Users,
>
>		Could someone please post the pin-outs for the serial and
>parallel lap-link cables. (I will be using Lap Link 3).
>
>		Thanks in advance.

Please post the Parallel connections here if you have them. Here
are the serial ones I used:

Think of 4 female plugs in a row as follows:
  25 pin     9 pin     9 pin     25 pin
call them A B C and D for short. Here is the wiring. 
A2 to B3 to C2 to D3
A3 to B2 to C3 to D2
A4 to B7 to C8 to D5
A5 to B8 to C7 to D4
A6 to B6 to C4 to D20
A7 to B5 to C5 to D7
A20 to B4 to C6 to D6

If you need 9pin to 9pin, just connect up the B and C connections.
If you need 25 to 9 pin, connect up the A and C and ignore the B.
I made up a 9 to 9 pin cable and used a couple of 9 - 25 serial 
adapters when I needed 9 to 25 or 25 to 25.
Regards, Stu.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~)
Subject: Re: Trident vs. Tseng speed difference?
Originator: smintz@alamo
Organization: Intel Corporation
Distribution: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:07:19 GMT


I just upgraded from a trident 8916c to a diamond speedstar 24 and on landmard 2.0
(speedcom.exe) from 17934 to 57943, your result can be different due to cpu speed
bu expect at lease a double ( I got even more) in video speed!!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: DX2 50 vs. DX 50
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:41:48 GMT

In <54830008@acf3.NYU.EDU> reznick@acf3.NYU.EDU (Daniel Reznick) writes:

>I would like to knwo the difference between the 486DX2 50MHZ CPU and the
>486DX 50MHZ CPU.  I know that the DX2 is a "clock doubler", and is only
>50MHZ internally, but what does this mean in practical terms.  What is
>"internal" and "external" operations.  If the data bus runs at 8MHZ
>either way, how is the tru 50 faster?  

Keep in mind that the memory doesn't live on that 8 MHz bus.  It lives
on a bus that is running at the speed of the CPU clock (25 MHz for a
50DX2, 50 MHz for a 50DX).

>Does the DX2 slow disk access?

I wouldn't think so.

>Video access?  

Once again, I wouldn't think so (unless your video card is a Local Bus
card, in which case it would.

>Would a DX2 50MHZ ISA machine be appropriate for a server
>of any sort?  Thank you.

I would be inclined to run EISA on a server.

>Daniel Reznick

>OH, also, how does DX2 vs. DX and EISA vx. ISA affect multitasking in an
>envirnotment like Windows?  

Only the memory access speed will make a difference for Windows.
Because Windows is a message-drive system, it is not 'true'
multitasking.  You would be hard pressed to do enough under Windows to
saturate an ISA bus.

>or the promised Winddows NT or win32?

NT, like OS/2 and UNIX, is a real multitasking OS.  If you have a
server and put intelligent EISA peripherals (disk controller, Ethernet
boards, etc.) you could conceivably saturate the EISA bus.  Data
throughput will be much higher with EISA or MCA busses.


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From: ameyer@cbnews.cb.att.com (Andreas Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Can you identify this RLL controller?
Summary: I need documentation, board is marked "WA6-VR".
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:27:14 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Holmdel NJ


The last time I was in Sunnyvale, I went to Fry's and bought
an RLL controller. To be exact, it's (supposed to be) a 16-bit 
1:1 RLL controller for 2 hard drives and 2 floppies.

I brought it back to New Jersey with me, tried the board in my '286
clone and all it does is lock up my machine.  The controller board
has about a dozen jumpers on it. So, I called Fry's and they tell me 
that they have no documentation for it, they don't know who the 
manufacturer is and I should set it up "by trial and error"?!
(The story is much more convoluted and I might post the details at 
a later date, but these are the basic facts).

Hopefully, by describing the board, someone might recognize the
manufacturer and help me secure the proper documentation, or at
least point me in the right direction...

DESCRIPTION:

 o  16-bit card, Western Digital chip-set.

 o  Silk-screened to the component side is "WA6-VR" (model number?)
    and what looks to be a logo: a capital letter "C" with a
    letter "L" inside it. (LC? CL?)

 o  Etched into the traces on the solder side of the board is
    the word "UNIC" (the board maker)?

If you have one of these boards (and documentation!), or any
leads on where I can obtain information on how to set the jumpers,
please send e-mail to me at the address below.

Thanks!
Andy

    ==--
  -====---    Andreas Meyer, N2FYE                     ahm@hoserve.att.com
  --==----    AT&T Bell Laboratories, Holmdel NJ        ..!att!hoserve!ahm
    ----
From: boris@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Boris Yost,311 Bard Hall,4045,2739205)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: What is the difference between DX and SX?
Date: 17 Aug 92 13:45:21 GMT
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Originator: boris@snoopy.msc.cornell.edu

>>What is the difference between a DX and a SX specification for 386 and
>>486?!  Usually, SX means 16 bit bus structure and DX means 32 bits bus
> 
> The 486 has some additional instructions, and the 486DX has
> an onboard math co-processor, if that helps.
The SX processors have only 16bits worth of data lines on the package, so 
they have to do two reads to get a long.  But this makes the system cheaper.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: svirsky@ttidca.com (Bill Svirsky)
Subject: Re: IDE Controller problems...
Organization: Transaction Technology, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:02:45 GMT

liebgold@hougen.seas.ucla.edu (Dan M. Liebgold) writes:
: Does anyone know anything about IDE controllers that only support one disk at
: a time?

My experience with 2 IDE drives in 1 machine is that they have to be
configured 1 as master and 1 as slave using jumpers on the drives. Check
your manuals or call manufacturers tech support.

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From: jbitar@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Convert a Canon LBP-8IIR into a Postscript printer?!
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:36:16 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services


   I've been trying to sell my Canon LBP 8IIR in order to buy a Postscript
printer instead.  However, I was told that I could buy a logic board that would
'convert' my Canon LBP 8IIR into a Postscript printer.  I was also told that 
Xante and LaserMaster sell such boards, however he didn't tell me anything 
about the prices of these boards or the phone numbers of companies that carry 
those boards.  

   Does anybody out there have any idea about those logic boards and of any 
companies that sell them...  :)

   I don't know if this question concerns a lot people, so if it is no trouble
I would appreciate it if you respond to me directly and I'll archive the 
answers for the interested... :)

   Thanks in advance..

Joe.
email:  jbitar@uoft02.utoledo.edu
or
        jbitar@stardent.chem.utoledo.edu


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