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From: kjones@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Kent Jones - EECS)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL: Crazy Idea...
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:12:50 GMT
Organization: Washington State University!

Howdy,

	I have just been hooked watching DOOL. My wife has been hooked for 
years (ever since Romain thought Marlena had died and started crying).
Since we were recently married she has me hooked as well! Anyway, just thought
I'd post some of my crazy ideas for the show. Please dont flame me, I know 
these ideas are stupid, rotten and terrible. These are just my stupid
opinions:

1) I wish that Lawrence would reform and become a good guy. Then, I would like
   Carly and Lawrence would get together and find out that Nicky is their son.
   Carly would forgive Vivian, and Aunt Viv would then become like a grandmother
   to Nicky. Vivian would then also become good (along with Victor) and marry
   Victor. Nicky would move in with Carly and Lawrence.

2) I wish that Philip (Kim's new flame) would turn out to be *really* bad, and
   Kim would get back togther with Shane.

3) I would have Marlena leave Romain, and by some wierd twist of fate, have
   Romain and Lisanne get together... (Ha!) 

4) After Isabella dies, I would like to see John becomes very, very bad due 
   to the enormous amount of stress he was under. 

5) I would have Bo become even more angry and withdrawn, due to his rejection 
   by Carly. I would have him attempt to kill Lawrence, and then realize that 
   he is no better than his own father.

What do the rest of you think? Are these insane ideas or what!

					Kent Jones
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From: riddle@brahms.udel.edu (Tammy Riddle)
Subject: Re: SB: Wednesday updater needed
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:26:13 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.232619.24389@u.washington.edu> dias@redx.washington.edu (Vivian Dias) writes:
>In article <9209011423.AA14076@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, shiva%morpheus%Servers@HIPPO.BANYAN.COM writes:
>> Well, folks, it looks like it's true: as of next Monday, WBZ-TV 4, NBC's 
>> Boston affiliate, will replace Santa Barbara with Bill Cosby's "You Bet Your 
>> Life" (a game show!!!!).  Now, I haven't called them yet, so I don't know for 
>> sure they're dropping the show entirely; but after the rumors I'm afraid 
>> that's probably the case. :-(  This weekend I'm going to try yanking my cable 
>> and picking up channel 10 (New Hampshire, I think); but that's always been a 
>> tough one for me to get in the city.
>
>  I just got email from Wanda in New Hampshire and she said it was cancelled
>  there also.  Let's see, now, that's Boston, New Hampshire, Philadelphia,
>  this isn't looking good folks.  Maybe we can start a tape network and
>  send a week's worth to those folks where it's been yanked and then when
>  the affiliates come to their senses and want Santa Barbara back everyone
>  will be current - yes, I believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, too.
>
>> So the bottom line is after this week I most likely won't be able to do 
>> Wednesday updates anymore.  Can anybody take over for me?
>> 
>> Sadly,
>> 
>> Liz
>
>  Gidget is out for Tuesday also (she's back in school) and I haven't been
>  able to get ahold of Ceci for the friday updates which is why I did the
>  last one.  Anyone got any suggestions?????
>
>  Vivian
>  v


Okay Liz and Vivian, I can probably pick up the Wednesday updates for Santa
Barbara starting this week (if my vcr taped it right today).  That's funny
you should mention a tape network, someone I know that was in the States
from DOWN UNDER got addicted to SB and a few of us are going to do
something similar for her.  I also offered to do the same with Hannah since
she lost it from Philly.  Let me know, and I'll help out any way I can.

--Tammy

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From: IDSWB@ASUACAD.BITNET
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Lisanne/Julie-was something about sickbed
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:20:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: ASUACAD.92246.152027IDSWB
 <1992Aug25.195238.1943@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>
Organization: Arizona State University

lisad@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Lisa Dominique) says:
>>someone warm-blooded, passionate, with a pulse, Julie for instance.
>
>I think Vic and Julie would make a really interesting couple,
>but I don't know how they would manage getting Julie to respect
>Victor.... Of course, anything's possible on DOOL, as we
>all know so very well.

I agree that Victor and Julie would make a interesting couple.  However,
after watching Julie with Doug for so many years I would be hard to see
her with someone else.  I wonder if TPTB thinks the same thing?  BTW, does
anyone recall what actually happened between Doug and Julie?  Did they
ever say?  I know that they broke up when she was in ?Europe? but, I can't
recall if they said what caused the break-up.
>
>>Most of you seem to dislike Lisanne, and I must agree they're not por-
>>traying her as a responsible female in the slightest but I LIKE this
>>actress, she's got potential! (IMHO).
>
Agreed!  Now let's just hope that they don't waste her talents
>
>I really liked the character Lisanne portrayed originally;
>the strong and independent woman.  Wish they'd bring that
>part of her character back.  I know.... Dream on!!
>
>--Lis

Excellent point Lis.  I'm so tired of all of the bedroom/kissy-kissy scenes
with Larry.  BTW, does anyone recall a couple of weeks ago when Lawrence was
still in bed and Lisanne called him?  When he said he was still in bed (reading
the newspaper, and I think eating) he told her that there were more than just
one thing to do in bed.

Quince

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From: pml@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (patricia.m.lott)
Subject: Y&R
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:30:44 GMT
Keywords: Discussion

On Monday's show (8/24), I kind of felt bad for Ashley.
I agree with the netters who believe that Nikki should
have dumped Victor for Jack.  That might have taught him
a lesson - that he can't always have what he wants.  I
thought after the talk Ashley had with Nikki, she would
have agreed that remarrying Victor might not be the most
stable thing she could do.  But Nikki is in love with the
fantasy.  She has never truly loved Jack the way she loved
Victor, and it was a mistake for them to divorce.  Let's
just hope that Victor doesn't disappoint her too soon.  
Also the time warp thing that happens with soaps - we all
know (those of us who have been watching for some time) 
that Nikki was pregnant with Nicholas when she and Victor
broke up.  Now Nicholas is about 7 or 8 years old.  Does
this mean that Nikki and Jack and Victor and Ashley have
been married for 7 or 8 years when in real time it has
only been about 3 years?  It gets real confusing when the
writers do these things to us.

Nothing was ever resolved about Brad and Traci.  Traci told
Brad Steve had asked her to marry him, but we were left
hanging after that.  She may be one of the characters getting
a "pink slip" but if she is a recurring character, is that
truly a pink slip?

I don't think Dru is going off the show.  Instead, one of the
other characters is probably Olivia who will die of the ovarian
cancer.  The other two characters I thought about were Michael
and Hillary going to live in L.A. (happily ever after away
from the Roach).  But after yesterday's show when Michael
saw the flyer about the missing tape, I wonder if this is the
latest David Kimble storyline that will go on for years before
it is finally resolved.  I hate these kinds of stories.

As for Lauren, I hope she loses.  From what I see, as a casual
observer, Scott is the better parent.  He is much more stable
than Lauren.  He's not jumping into bed with any eligible
female who happens to catch his eye.  It's true - Lauren isn't
really jumping in bed with these men, but if I was the 
psychiatrist studying this case, I would be very reluctant to
give the child to a mom who doesn't seem to have any scruples.
And when was the last time Lauren was seen with little Scottie?
Has she seen him since the night she stole him from Scott's
apartment and took him home with her?

When is Ryan going to dump Victoria and marry Nina?  When are
they going to find out what a creep he is?

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From: zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu (Carolyn Zaccaria)
Subject: Re: AMC: Tad in Santa Barbara?
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:49:52 GMT

In article <27AUG199208545647@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> mcguire@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Melissa Mcguire) writes:

>So what's the scoop?  If MEK's coming back to daytime, why not on AMC?  And 
>if he's not, then where'd the scoop come from?

The guy that played Joey on AMC is *already* on Santa Barbara. There are
rumors that MEK might also be joining that show. The scoop came from
a soap mag I believe courtesy of Trish, I think!

CAZ

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From: cbarthol@bart.ssf-sys.DHL.COM (Cris Bartholomew)
Subject:  AMC : Jeremy's departure
Reply-To: cbarthol@bart.ssf-sys.DHL.COM (Cris Bartholomew)
Organization: DHL
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 17:42:24 GMT

According to the rag mags, Jeremy is supposed to go to another show
as himself and get involved with some lady.
If this is true, then what happens to his marriage????

Just wondering?????
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From: Joanna L. Castillo <pefv702@perv.pe.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: DOOL: TAN: What's with Lisanne?
X-Xxdate: Wed, 26 Aug 92 16:40:59 GMT
Organization: UT Petroleum Engineering Dept.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 14:43:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.124825.20913@hubcap.clemson.edu> sallie j kudra,
kudra@hubcap.clemson.edu writes:
>mins@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (timothy.j.mizerak) writes:
>
>>Now Joanna, for those of you who don't know, was not so lucky and the 
>>mighty hand of the DOOL/R.E.M. connection had to come crashing down on
>>her.  She has been recovering all this time, hence the decrease in posts,
>>and is just now getting back into form again.  
>
>In your dreams.  She has been busy with work.  Isn't that right Lemon?

True enough, NN...true enough.  I actually seem to have caught up 
quite a bit with the posts yesterday.  And...I made real headway in
getting my "pending" mailbox emptied.  When I came in yesterday, I 
had 172 pending messages (many of them not RATS-related but, rather, 
work-related...blech) and ended up the evening with 122!  Pretty good, 
eh?  I didn't actually send out 50 reply messages of course...but I 
did manage to make things a *little* less daunting.

>>|  What is it up in the air for?                :   Timothy Mizerak        |
>
>Nectarine "I can't believe I sat through all the commercials"

You poor soul, you!

JJ Lemon.

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From: boklan@athena.cas.vanderbilt.edu (Kent D. Boklan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: GL: Eve testing
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:12:03 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Vanderbilt University Mathematics Department


                        I like her hair.

(This is a test message too. Am I through?) 

                                                  Kent D. Boklan

(Hello Sharon, welcome back. I have missed you dearly.)
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From: marlowe@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Amanda T Marlowe)
Subject: Re: AMC - TAN - BIRTHDAY LIST
Keywords: balloons, cake, ice cream, candles
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 02:44:04 GMT

In article <17tl4hINNogg@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu> mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu (Mary E. Allison) writes:
>Okay - this is the FINAL full posting of the birthday list -- if there
>are errors, I refuse to claim responsibility :^).  
>
>

Hmmm, I saw Joey Martin on the list, but I didn't see Bobby... when is
his birthday anyway? And how old will he be, assuming he also suffers
from PVGD? 106??


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>
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Amanda (Hey, I can resume taping soon now that the VCR works again.)


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From: sally@anableps.berkeley.edu (S. A. Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Ramblings from the sick bed (I must be sick to watch in real time)
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:34:37 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: anableps.berkeley.edu



I think Sorel is one of the best actresses on the show. With the
slightest of expressions, with the merest of glances, she can
express such emotion, and convey far beyond the dialogue requires.
I think she and Vic are great.It is such a pleasure to see to
(quote) "older characters" in romantic scenes--and they are far
more romatic and loving than the show's primary couple. I think
Viv's expression was one of shock, it worked. Victor threw her
off balance with the kiss, and Viv is one who hates to be
thrown off balance, she's the one who always has to be in control,
she can't let emotion get in the way, and she can't let anyone,
especially a man beat her in anything. I think Vic shocked her,
and what was most shocking was that she found herself
enjoying it. This was all portrayed in her mannerisms, the actress
has a grasp for her character, and she uses that grasp to go
beyond the script. SHE IS AN ACTRESS. And she is attractive in
her own way. I find her so much more appealing than Crystal
or Spaci. Two actresses who are either bland or over exaggerate
facial expressions and do not have an iota of
insight to their character; they barely can deal with the script,
let alone to go beyond it. Give me Sorel anyday, give me her
romance with Victor anyday. This is one of the only few things
which DOOL has done.


Spud--Who has been rewatching all the past TP episodes to prepare
for Friday, and has only 9 more to see--Peel


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From: GC.AVW@forsythe.stanford.edu (RAGIN CAJUN)
Subject: Re: ATWT.Th8.27
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 08:36:49 GMT

In article <9208281545.AA13028@ivy.Princeton.EDU>,
ski@IVY.PRINCETON.EDU ("Karen Williams") writes:
>
>**************************************************
>
>HIYA, KIDS .............................. HIYA ..
>
>My most recent memory of George Bush is seeing him
>laughing and joking with some of the 150,000 homeless
>people in Andrew-torn Southern Florida.  He stayed
>around for about 15 minutes, ignored the debris,
>and got right back onto MY jet, Air Force One, and
>hot-tailed it back to the campaign trail ... boasting
>how he will help the American people if he's re-elected
>in November.
>
>Four days after the devastation, he FINALLY got the message
>that Florida, Louisiana and Mississippi still had voters
>of legal age and their plight is catastrophic.  I guess his
>definition of "family values" doesn't include the American "family",
>at large ... only the well-to-do American families who can fork
>over thousands of dollars to pave his way back to the White House.
>
>Sorry, Mr. Bush, I CANNOT vote for you after witnessing your
>insensitivity and carelessness involving the people of our
>Southern states.
>
>***************************************************************
>

]...[

Want to know what made me lose it-when the governors of the states
of Florida and La had to ask for federal help.  It seems they can't
get help unless they ask for it.

Alma
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From: lkern@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Leesa J Kern)
Subject: Re: ATWT - About Thursday's Show
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 23:07:05 GMT

In article <21AUG199209253586@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> afpaeji@lims01.lerc.nasa.go
v (JIM PAE) writes:
>Greetings Wardsters --

Greeting, Wardster!

>Congratulations to Mr. and Mrs. Love!  I hope you have many happy years

Let me add my congrats and best wishes also!  (There but for the grace of God
go I :)

>- When Frannie was waiting for CandyCane, I had a flashback to childhood.
>I believe the show was "The Electric Company" in which the plumber comes to 
>the front door of a house whose only occupant at the moment is a parrot.  
>The plumber rings the bell and the parrot questions "Who is it?" 
>"It's the plumber. I've come to fix the sink."
>No response.
>Plumber rings bell again.
>"Who is it?" the parrot asks once more.
>"It's the plumber. I've come to fix the sink."
>Again, no comment from inside.
>Ding-dong
>"Who is it?"
>"IT'S THE PLUMBER.  I'VE..COME ... TO ... FIX ... THE ... SINK!"
>At which point the plumber passes out for possibly bursting every blood
>vessel in his head.
>I couldn't help noticing the similarities to Thursday's show as Frantic
>stood in CandyCane's office and nearly all of Walsh came in and asked her
>if she was waiting for H2D. Each time she gave exactly the same answer that
>she had set up a meeting with CandyCane and planned to meet her here at
>the office.  And people say that PBS should be dissolved.  It seems that
>the plots are still good enough for daytime though.

In the immortal words of Ed McMahon, "You are correct, sir!"  This little bit 
from the Children's Television Workshop to this day does not fail to cause my 
sister and I to laugh until we break stitches we don't even have.

I guess this really isn't THAT relevant to ATWT . . . I just got to giggling 
while thinking about it.  Anytime someone asks "Who is it?"...
From: jcj@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (j.johnk)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: SB:  More Info from the soap magazines
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:50:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Sep1.174248.15687@u.washington.edu> dias@milton.u.washington.edu (Vivian Dias) writes:
>In article <Btwrzv.DrH@news.udel.edu> riddle@brahms.udel.edu (Tammy Riddle) writes:
>>
>  lots of great stuff deleted..
>
>>That's all.  Have fun, Leila, putting in ALL the stuff from SOD.  See you
>>crazy people later....I got work to do!!!
>>
>>
>>--Tammy
>>:-) 
>  Tammy,
>  Thank you so much for all that, especially the letters to A Martinez
>  from his co-workers, it brought a tear to my eye.  He will be missed
>  by all of us.
>  Vivian

Yes Tammy 
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You.  The letters to A Martinez had
me reaching for the Kleenex too.  Well I'm gonna start keeping
some episodes with Cruz.  This way he won't really gone, I can
just put in the tapes and watch him as Cruz.  Won't be the same
though.  Oh Well.

Joyce
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-- 
>>**************************************************************************
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>> If you don't mind, it doesn't matter."    *  riddle@brahms.udel.edu 
>>                  --Dr. Hugh Me Noway :-)  *  (302) 831-3734   
>
>
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From: vjelinek@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Virginia G Jelinek)
Subject: Re: LOV: Isabelle
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:37:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.190542.22625@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> lynda@mozart.Physics.McGi
ll.CA (Lynda Corkum) writes:
>I don't know about you other LOVING viewers, but I can't even look at the
>new Isabelle. I think she is supposed to be somewhere around 70 years old
>and looks as though she's just had one face lift too many!!! I hated the
>scenes of her with Tim Sullivan as he lay on his deathbed. Even with all
>her crying, her makeup still looked as though it is tatooed on!!! I'm glad
>that Kate finally told her off - she is so self-righteous.
>
I like the new Isabelle.  I mean, it seems that the whole point of getting a 
new Isabelle was to make her nasty.  The old one was so bland and sweet that 
she never could have been, as you put it, self-righteous.  And as for "too many
facelifts", I think it's pretty safe to assume that the women in a family that 
has as much money as the Aldens and owns a beauty product company would 
probably have several face lifts. Loving needs some new "bad guys" like 
Isabelle.
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Monday, 31 Aug 1992 13:19:12 MST
From: <IDSWB@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: comments

In article <2230@sjfc.UUCP>, glb3833@sjfc.UUCP (Gidget Bowden) says:
>
>Hi everyone, it's your quiet sis Apricot peeking her little head
>out for some comments.  I watched a bit of DOOL today in real time -

  Kinda scarry, isn't it?

>I know, you are all asking why I'm sure.  Well, this is my last
>week before hell 4 months start (school and work), and I'm working
>half days, which means I don't go in until almost dinner time.  I
>was watching DOOL, and a tape of SB at the same time, in commercials
>and that stuff.

  Ah, I remember those days.  Of course, that was when we had the terrific
  story lines and couples (Don and Marlena, Julie and Doug, and Alice and
  Tom were on alot.  Dreams..........
>
>Enough of the ravings about me, onto my few DOOL comments.  I absolutely
>love Viv, and Lisanne together.  They play each other off so good!  Thank
>God Larry wasn't around to make Lisanne a wimpy sexual being.  Her cat
>is cute too!
>
  Yeah he is.  I remember when I watched her talking to her cat one day
  (I don't remember which) when she was scheeming to get at the bottom
  of Carlips/Larry's situation.

>Let's start on another SCarrie ranting and raving.  In her scenes with
>Roman today, she didn't look into it at all.  To me, she was constantly
>looking over his shoulder past him, either to cue cards, or someone more
>interesting, and better looking!
>
I've got an idea.  Let's hope that Manhatten Lives comes to be because when
it does SCarrie will be moving over along with Marlena.  Wow!  What luck!
Getting rid of two bad characters in one shot.  Of course, shortly after that
Wayne Northrup (Roman) will be moving right over there also.  Such Joy :-)

>Well, that's about it, since I didn't watch too much!
>
That's OK sis, from what I understand, none of us have missed out on much if
we haven't been watching.  In fact, I don't get too upset if the timer forgets
to pick up the story for the day anymore.

>I'll try to jump in here once and a while now hell is coming, but if you
>don't hear from me, the books have eaten me!
>
Now you watch out for those books.  I know I have placed many a book order in
my University Employee Lifetime.  If the prices don't get ya, the information
will and that's a fact, Jack (no offense to Jack).

>--Apricot
>
A starting to get out of the paper avalanche Quince
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