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From: news@netnews.upenn.edu (USENET News System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Gov Kills NPA Rebels
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:53:29 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	ZAMBOANGA, Philippines (UPI) -- Security forces raided a home where
communist rebels had been holding a meeting, killing all five guerrillas
at the site, police said Friday.
	Regional police spokesman Lt. Col. Indo Ho said there were no reports
of goverment casualties in the attack, which occurred at dawn Thursday
in Victoriano village, 500 miles south of Manila.
	The raid represented the second major incident between guerrillas and
government troops in as many days, despite efforts by both sides to
resume talks aimed at ending the 23-year-old Marxist insurgency.
	Government and communist negotiators agreed during preliminary
discussions held in the Netherlands last week to resume formal talks,
which collapsed in early 1987.
	But on Wednesday, guerrillas ambushed a jeep in the central
Philippines, killing all six soldiers and six militiamen aboard, and
stripping them of their uniforms.
	Thursday, government Justice Secretary Franklin Drilon condemned the
killing of the 12 troopers, but said the incident would not deter Manila
from pursuing peace efforts, which new President Fidel Ramos began after
taking office June 30.
	But Friday, about 80 left-wing students marched on the presidential
palace to denounce Ramos's peace initiative as insincere, because
soldiers are still hunting down guerrillas.
From: dannya@ESD.3Com.COM (Danny Alvendia)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Snide Remarks by Brent Musburger?
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:45:00 GMT
Organization: 3Com Corporation


  The song, according to some older folks, was describing the 
  ability of the folks in Zamboanga to scale the tall coconut trees.
  How true this is, I don't know. 

  Still the comment was uncalled for. When Jimmy the Greek made a 
  comment about blacks superiority in sports, he got canned. Howard Cosell
  got chastised for calling one of the Redskins, "that little monkey", even
  if he said, he meant it as a term of endearment.

  I did not hear the comment made, but if it was made, I believe an explanation
  or apology should be given.

  Lighten up and/or "pasensiya nalang" has always been our fall back as a 
  people; it's good to express our feelings and be heard.

  /Danny
From: mccallus@sage.cc.purdue.edu (joseph p. mccallus)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Are there any Philippine mail lists?
Date: 12 Sep 92 17:34:32 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

I'm interested in e-mail lists related to the Philippines. In
particular, politics and the media. 

-- 
Joseph P. McCallus
mccallus@sage.cc.purdue.edu
From: news@netnews.upenn.edu (USENET News System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Flooding in Quezon City
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:21:18 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

MANILA, Philippines (UPI) -- A thunderstorm triggered flashfloods in
the capital late Tuesday, stranding thousands of commuters and forcing
more than 260 persons to flee to safer grounds, officials said.
	Television reports said three children were missing when water from a
swollen creek in suburban Quezon City swept away 44 houses.
	Divina Japa, spokesperson for Mayor Ismael Mathay, said flashfloods
burst through a concrete wall, sending floodwaters through a squatter
colony in Balara district. Japa appealed for donations of food and
blankets.
	Traffic was tied up late into the night and thousands of commuters
and office employees waded through waist-deep water to get home.
Hundreds of employees stayed in their offices overnight.
	``It was as if drums of water were poured down from heaven,'' said
one office employee. ``The streets were under water in just 30 minutes
of downpour.''
From: mic@lcsstr.stgt.sub.org (Michael Lederer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Hello Everyone
Date: 15 Sep 92 23:40:39 GMT
Organization: LCS - 7303 Neuhausen / Germany

In article <0egrgu600Uh7A2NmVE@andrew.cmu.edu> mf44+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Sycip Frondoso) writes:
>
>I just came from the Philippines about a month ago to study here.  I
>could use any help regarding sending e-mail back home.  My father says
>if I get enough information, he can get University of the Philippines
>hooked into our network.
>Thanks.

The easiest way would be a dial-up line to any other site in the world. But
this will be a question about the communication-costs.
If my informations are right, it is very expensive to do long-distance calls
from the Philippines. I think this are about US$ 10 for the first 3 minutes.
I wonder that there is no connection to the Phils. until now. As I had 
seen on the CeBit in Hannover last years, Phils. have a very powerful 
computer education.
I think this is a nice theme to discuss in this group. If the communication-
costs are too high in the Phils., why not polling a Phil. computer from
outside the Philippines?
By the way, costs from Germany would be DM 3,13 / min.

Mic
-- 
Michael Lederer          Voice: (49)-7158-60033       D-7303 Neuhausen
mic@lcsstr.stgt.sub.org  FAX:   (49)-7158-60034       Germany
From: news@netnews.upenn.edu (USENET News System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: More on Mt. Pinatubo
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:59:16 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	SAN FERNANDO, Philippines (UPI) -- Fresh mudflows rolled down Mount
Pinatubo volcano, burying 200 houses and five school buildings, disaster
officials said Thursday.
	Brig. Gen. Pantaleon Dumlao, regional police commander, said heavy
rains triggered 15-foot mudflows down the Pasig-Portero River late
Wednesday, swamping houses in Balas, 50 miles north of Manila.
	Hundreds of residents continued to flee their homes in threatened
villages in nearby Mabalacat to an evacuation center set up at the
former U.S. Clark Air Base.
	Relief workers said the evacuee population had swelled to 20,000 at
the facility, which Washington abandoned in November because of damage
from the volcano's eruption last year.
	President Fidel Ramos and leaders of Congress agreed Wednesday to
allocate $408 million for relief and rehabilitation work in the mudflow-
ravaged region at the foot of the volcano.
	But Sen. Agapito Aquino asked Ramos to negotiate with the country's
creditor banks for a 10 percent reduction in Manila's debt service
amortization to save funds for the mudflow victims.
	The Philippines has allocated $5.2 billion, or 38.9 percent, of the
1993 budget to pay interest on its $29 billion external debt.
	The International Monetary Fund, the country's major creditor, has
said any attempts to limit debt payments would affect Manila's credit
standing.
	The newly arrived U.S. ambassador to the Philippines, Richard
Solomon, in his first trip outside Manila, visited the mudflow-stricken
areas Thursday.
	He toured a Red Cross refugee center in Saguin village built with
funds provided by the U.S. Agency for International Development.
	A U.S. Embassy statement said Washington has provided $70.36 million
worth of assistance to the victims of the volcano's 1991 eruption and
the months of mudflows, called lahar, that followed. More than 700
people were killed in last year's eruption.
From: news@netnews.upenn.edu (USENET News System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Imelda To Leave for Hawaii Soon
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:48:46 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	MANILA, Philippines (UPI) -- Former first lady Imelda Marcos has
nearly recovered from chest pains that sent her to the hospital last
week and should be able to leave for Hawaii within days to retrieve her
late husband's body, aides said Monday.
	``She's fine,'' Rita Gaddi-Baltazar, a friend of Mrs. Marcos who
visited her in the hospital told United Press International, ``but she
will have to stay (in the hospital) a couple more days.''
	Medical officials were not immediately available to comment on the
former first lady's condition.
	The flamboyant 63-year-old widow of ousted dictator Ferdinand Marcos
was rushed to the hospital after she complained of chest pains last week
on the eve of her departure for Honolulu to bring home her late
husband's body.
	Four local courts earlier gave Mrs. Marcos until Sept. 28, the third
anniversary of the deposed dictator's death, to bring back the remains,
which have been kept in a refrigerated crypt in the Hawaiian capital
since he died in 1989.
	She needed court permission to leave the country because she faces
criminal and civil charges tied to her alleged role in the plunder of
billions of dollars during her husband's 20-year rule.
	Mrs. Marcos' lawyer, Antonio Coronel, said plans for the former first
lady to fly to Hawaii to personally bring home the remains were still
on.
	``She should be leaving any time, as soon as her doctors say 
	she can leave,`` he said.
	The Marcoses were chased into U.S. exile during a 1986 civilian-
backed military revolt that propelled former President Corazon Aquino to
power.
From: news@netnews.upenn.edu (USENET News System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Ramos Not Worried About Arms Sale to Taiwan
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:22:21 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

MANILA, Philippines (UPI) -- President Fidel Ramos Monday said he was
not ``overly concerned'' about a U.S. decision to sell fighter jets to
Taiwan, but a senior Philippine foreign-affairs official warned the move
could destabilize the region.
	President Bush last week announced the lifting of a ten-year ban on
arms sales to Taiwan, and allowed Taipei to buy 150 F-16 warplanes worth
$6 billion.
	But China, which considers Taiwan a renegade province, has reacted
sharply to the decision, and warned the move could endanger talks aimed
at reducing the sale of arms to Third World nations. China, Taiwan and
four other countries also all claim the South China Sea's Spratley
Islands, which analysts consider a potential flashpoint for regional
conflict.
	Reacting to the jet sale, Ramos Monday said, ``We are not overly
concerned with what's going on between the U.S. and Taiwan, and the
reaction of the People's Republic of China, other than the maintenance
and the enhancement of stability in the Asia-Pacific region.''
	Separately, U.S. Embassy spokesman Morton Smith added that America
has ``full confidence that (the sale) would not destabilize the region
in any way.''
	But a senior official at the Philippine Department of Foreign Affairs
warned that the sale could heighten an arms buildup in the region,
causing more instability.
	``It's a massive injection of very modern aircraft,'' said the
official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. ``It does not seem to
be something which adds stability, and it can only lead to further
buildups of countries around the region. I am sure the Chinese will
react by trying to see where they can get the equipment to match that
buildup.''
	China's own 13-year-old military modernization program has already
concerned its neighbors.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Snide Remarks by Brent Musburger?
From: bernal@spss.com (Raoul Bernal)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:40:38 GMT
Organization: SPSS Inc.

FREE1263@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu writes:

>In article <18lf7sINNt66@agate.berkeley.edu>
>martyg@ocf.berkeley.edu (Martin Guerrero) writes:
 
>>I heard from someone listening to the Little World World Series
>>that Brent Musburger made some pretty snide remarks about Filipinos.
>>I hear that he mentioned something like There are Monkeys without
>>tails in Zamboanga.
>>Has anyone heard about this?

>I heard that one, too; but not during the LLWS live coverage..It
>was during the ABC NEWS (Sunday I think) sports coverage (i.e.,
>that sunday prior to the LLWS week)...  kung maalala ko, ang
>pagkasabi ay parang ganito " ... the boys are not even from
>Manila...but from Zamboanga City in the south, where monkeys
>have no tails...."The comment was followed by a feature of
>boys in Zamboanga diving into the sea from bancas (or vinta?).
>It was not also from from Brent M. but from the host of the
>the Sunday ABC NEWS sports (yung matanda na balbas-sarado, I
>forgot his name; but surely looks like a white-livered monkey)..
>****rjmeimban/univ of illinois***


I did not hear any of that at all, but I can see where that quota-
tion is coming from.  This was a popular Navy drinking song back
in the 30's and 40's, when Philippines was a commonwealth of the
US.  I think the title is The Monkeys Have No Tails in Zamboanga,
which went like this:

Oh the monkeys have no tails in Zamboanga (2x)
Oh the monkeys have no tails in Zamboanga
Because they have been bitten off by the whales

John Wayne sang this in a bar scene in They Were Expendable, a
movie about World War II in the Philippines, starting with the
Dec. 1941 attack by the Japanese.  I think the movie came out
around the 50's.

I think it may have started with one of the navymen seeing 
tailless monkeys.  If it was meant to be derogatory, whoever
came up with the lyrics to that song may very well have chosen
any 3-syllable name in the Phils.  But why the far-flung city
of Zamboanga?  It may very well have been Bacolod, Manila, 
Palawan, Batangas, or even Bataan.  Of course, I may be wrong
as to how this song was originally intended to mean.  Hey, maybe
us netters can ask our parents?

Well, in the light of today's consciousness for political correct-
ness, that song is not commonly heard anymore.  But I say let's
lighten up.  At the most, I think the newscasters can only be
accused of maybe trying to inform the older audience it is the
same Zamboanga as in that old navy song.

Comments welcome.

-Raoul
====================================================================
The opinions expressed are those of the author and not of SPSS, Inc.
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Raoul A. Bernal                                 FAX  :(312)329-3657
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: temiraso@vela.acs.oakland.edu (thomas e mirasol)
Subject: anyone know . . .
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:52:57 GMT

Does anyone out there know butch katigbak?  Please email response
to temiraso@vela.acs.oakland.edu.  Thanks.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: vladimir@news.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Vladimir Dancik)
Subject: Re: Business information required ?
Originator: vladimir@garnet
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 09:56:42 GMT


In article <09nn75_.sunil@netcom.com>, sunil@netcom.com (SUNIL DHINGRA) writes:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I work for a Hong Kong based trading company and was trying to develop
> trade with Czechoslovakian  companies in consumer electronics and 
> computer products. In an effort to do this I will be spending a 
> month in the country in the near future .
> 
> I was wondering if readers of this net could give me general information
> as to where I could obtain a list of companies in Czechoslovakia involved 
> in this business; how I could establish contact with them; are there any 
> government or private agencies which help foreign firms do  business, etc.?
> 
>  Any information will be appreciated ?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Sunil
> 408-971-6388
> 
You could try

N A S T A S  - The private agency
Stred. CENTRUM
ul. Strojarska
069 01 SNINA
Czechoslovakia

tel: +42 932 82 290 
tel.fax.: +42 932 2700 
tel.fax.: +42 946 23639
From: HENRY@brownvm.brown.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Re: How to subscribe to CAROLINA ?
Date: 7 Sep 92 16:00:44 GMT
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: brownvm.brown.edu
News-Software: BNN via BNN_POST v1.0 beta

>Could somebody tell me HOW  to subscribe the CAROLINA news?
>                                               Thanks, Petr Adamek

Send e-mail to: CAROLINA@CSEARN.BITNET  with msg:
  Carolina/Eng: Subscription    (for English version)
  Carolina/Cs: Subscription   (for Czech version)

Good luck, Henry Kucera
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: tom@bim.itc.univie.ac.at (Tom Kovar)
Subject: Re: Help With Currency Question???
Organization: Inst.of Theor.Chemistry,Univ.of Vienna,Austria
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:51:48 GMT

makortoff@camins.camosun.bc.ca writes:
: Hello there!!
: 
: I am a student who is going to be spending 3 months in Czechoslovakia.  I am
: wondering if someone might be able to tell me what type of Money (Currency) is
: most widly used in Czechoslovakia other than the Crown.  I have been told that
: the German Mark is most used but I am wondering if it is difficult to exchange
: either Canadian or American Currency?  I is important that if you can help me
: with this problem that you either post a message in this news group or e-mail
: me by Sept. 09, 1992.  I know this is short notice but I didn't think of this
: till the last moment.

  It is no problem at all nowadays to exchange any amount of any (usual) foreign
currency in Czechoslovakia. You simply go to any of the banks or exchange
offices (in the centre of Prague there are some millions of them now) and
you can exchange the money on the spot. You don't either need a passport
now.
  Thanks to the near convertibility of the Crown (even if it is undervalued),
the exchange rates in Cz. banks are nearly identical to those abroad, so
you do not have to contact any of the "vekslak"'s, as it used to be the case
some years ago. 
  Any (west)-European currency + US and CDN and AU $'s are welcome.
		
									Tom
From: HENRY@brownvm.brown.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Re: Prague Castle - Why?
Date: 9 Sep 92 02:35:49 GMT
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: brownvm.brown.edu
News-Software: BNN via BNN_POST v1.0 beta


>In a recent trip to the CSFR I learned two Czech words: Zamek and Hrad.
>
>Both were liberally translated as "Castle", but my Czech friends assured
>me that zamek really meant "fortress" or "keep". In fact, zamek also
>means a "lock" in the sense of a padlock.
>
>So, Prague Castle, or Prasky Hrad in Czech, translates as "Prague Castle"
>as opposed to "Prague Fortress".
>
>Now a question:
>Having grown up American, I must be ignorant to the nuances of
>Anglo-English--I always thought a Caslte WAS a palace. What's the
>difference?
>
>- Jeff
>jwishnie@taligent.com

Sorry, but it's exactly the other way around: zamek = castle, and hrad = fort.
(The word zamek = lock, is a homonym). The word 'hrad" comes from the Common-
Slavic root 'gord' (as in Russin, gorod, a protected place, later a city) which
-- wonder of wonders--is the same Indo-European root as the ENGLISH 'garden";
'zamek' comes from a secured (locked-up) place. The German equivalents are
roughly: zamek = Schloss, and hrad = Burg. Unfortunately, English--having
wasted the IE *gord-os on 'garden', does not have a good distinction between
'hrad' and 'zamek' (or Schloss and Burg).

H. Kucera (sometimes lexicographer --BTW, try the Am. Her. Dictionary, 3rd ed.,
just out).
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak,rec.sport.hockey
From: euaaen@eua.ericsson.se (Anders Engwall)
Subject: All those 'new' hockey nations (was: Is this just one man's opinion?)
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 07:52:17 GMT

sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog) writes:

>If IIHF had any senses, they would realize that they have to make
>some special arrangements, and not refer Slovakia, Latvia etc to
>the lowest group they have, and let them slowly work their ways
>through the system.

Slovakia will have to become a member of the IIHF to be allowed
to compete in the WC at all. I'm not sure how soon they can become
one or more specifically, if they can become one in time for the
'93 WC.

>Of course the problem is not trivial, but a suggestion is that
>Slovakia and the ex-Soviet states would play a group of their 
>own in 1993 whereof the best team(s) could get a ticket to 1994's 
>A group, the next two to the B group etc. Of course, a tournament 
>with 15 teams would be too big, but I wouldn't expect for instance
>Tajikistan to turn up. Actually, the two I would expect to fit the 
>A group would be Slovakia and Latvia. (I didn't include the ex-
>Yugoslavian states in the above scenario, as Yugoslavia never held
>the same standards as Czechoslovakia and the USSR.)

There's no need to speculate how the IIHF will handle the
xUSSR/xYugo countries, as this has already been decided upon.
In pools A and B it will be business as usual. Pool C will consist of
no less than twelve teams; one sent down from last year's pool B (Yugo-
slavia), five from last year's pool C, one promoted from pool D (Spain),
and five teams that will be decided through some qualification procedure.
It's in that last category that the 'new' countries come in. However, only
the other day I read that Yugoslavia will perhaps be banned from partici-
pating, in which case they will be replaced by yet another team from pool
D. Ironically, this happens to be South Africa.

Indeed there has to be a bigger flow upwards than one team at a time, at
least for few years. Perhaps it would be a good idea to promote 4 teams
from C to B between '93 and '94, and ditto from D to C, creating a 12-team
format for each of the three top levels. Then one could 'normalize' things.
Sort of like: 

Year	1993	1994	1995
Pool A	12	12	12
     B	 8	12	 8
     C	12	12	 8
     D	 ?	 ?	 8
     E	 -	 -	 ?

--
Anders Engwall				Email: Anders.Engwall@eua.ericsson.se
ELLEMTEL Utvecklings AB			Voice: +46 8 727 3893
"Alvsj"o, Sweden			Fax: +46 8 727 42 20
		"Bryna nuppa fj{ssa sp}nken" - Razor
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: probst@fraser.sfu.ca (Scott Probst)
Subject: Re: Help With Currency Question???
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:28:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.073657.24934@ugle.unit.no> benes@itk.unit.no (Mila Benes) writes:
>In article <852@ozz.oasis.icl.co.uk>, ppg@oasis.icl.co.uk (Philippe Goujard) writes:
>|>  
>|> - Getting a subway ticket is an.. erm... interesting experience and I
>|> 
>It certainly is. Once I was denied entry, just because tickets ware sold out !
>The guard made even sure I didn't use another entrance (which I tried, I must admit). I had to walk to the next station. But, it happened only once to me.
>Another interesting experience is using the escalator (moving staircase). It is probably the fastest moving staircase in the world. In other countries they would probably charge you extra for that experience and you would need a driver's licence and your doctor's permission, but in Prague it is included in the
>metro fare :-).
> 
it sure is fun on the metro there! besides the ride on the escalator - 
worth the price of the metro ticket - there's the esoteric thrill of
learning to navigate the change of station at the crosspoints... and
learing to dodge the metro cops, just for the fun of it.

scott