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From: chil@fraser.sfu.ca (Keith Lim)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Computer Lab Operator Geeks
Date: 3 Oct 92 08:47:15 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

jma@reef.cis.ufl.edu (John 'Vlad' Adams) writes:

>You mean they aren't?  Seriously - most of the questions I heard as a
>lab ass was "How do I do..." instead of "This is how I tried to solve
 ^^^^^^^
>the homework - will you show me where I went wrong."  This is why most
>of us ex-lab asses know that students are the enemy.
              ^^^^^
Unintentional or deliberate, it doesn't matter. I find this hilarious.
"Assistant" is one of those words people should be careful of abbreviating.
Another such word is "student." Ever seen someone describe himself or herself
as, for example, a "Grad Stud"?

-- 
Keith_Lim@sfu.ca   Simon Fraser University, Burnaby B.C., V5A 1S6, Canada
Hon Cog Sci; Min Psyc; Forum; Senate; CDSU; URC; ASC; FARSIDE; LEAD; CCCS
I officially represent each and every one of the above bodies--NOT!

"Perhaps you're just different. It's not a sin, you know--though you may
 have heard otherwise."                     --Tam Elbrun, ST:TNG "Tin Man"
Xref: sparky alt.folklore.college:2348 alt.folklore.urban:24300 soc.college:3964
From: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.urban,soc.college
Subject: Re: Class distinction in colleges
Date: 26 Sep 92 16:32:25 GMT
Reply-To: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1a0vo8INNg9i@agate.berkeley.edu> dbucher@ocf.berkeley.edu (Daniel Bucher) writes:
>
>My guess is post-WWII flooding of colleges and universities with former
>soldiers who now could afford college on their GI bills. The important thing
>about these persons is that they were older and had far more life-and-death
>experience than the previous average joe-college-student. So they were 
>in college not to mess around with petty rivalries, but with the goal of
>graduation and future work in mind.

Interesting idea.  I suspect WW II had a lot to do with it, as I believe
it was after WW II that jeans and t-shirts began to replace jackets and
ties as the usual attire worn to class. 

The only quibble I have with it is that Columbia College (the undergrad.
liberal arts division of Columbia University) has always been for students
right out of high school.  Until last year, you were precluded from 
enrolling as a new student if you were over 21.  Only last year, when a
returning Gulf War veteran threatened to sue, did they strike that from
the books.  Traditionally, those starting college later than usual at
Columbia enroll in the School of General Studies.


--
Gabe Wiener - Columbia Univ.     "This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings 
gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu       to be seriously considered as a means of 
N2GPZ in ham radio circles        communication. The device is inherently of
72355,1226 on CI$                 no value to us." -Western Union memo, 1877
From: jonwllms@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (John Williams)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: class rivalries at colleges
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:21:00 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA
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llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine) writes:
 
[stuff deleted]
: you have to understand that texas a&m is very very good-old-boy about
: their traditions. the guys who join the corps[1] know what's gonna
: happen to them, and the corps as a whole jealously guards all their
: lovely little tribal practices. there was a story in texas monthly not
: too long ago about how the corps was forced, kicking and screaming, to
: accept women, and of the subsequent sexual harassment these women
: received.
: 
: so the people being hazed as she described are pretty much willing
: victims.
: 

"Willing victims?"

Just for the sake of argument (not that ANYONE would ever feel this way),
let's pretend that a woman decideds she wants to be career Air Force. 
And she wants to join the Corps of Cadets at Texas A&M, because she's close
to the campus, can afford it, and she thinks it's the best. 

Must she put up with the "tribal practices?" I'm sure, that if she were
a thinking human being, she would have said "Oh boy! Sexual harrasment!
Lets go to T A&M!", but still - I don't see how that particular aspect of
good-'ol-boyism is defensable.

-- 
*** | John Williams                   |                                   | ***
*** | jonwllms@csugrad.cs.vt.edu      |      "And now for something       | ***
*** | Virginia Tech                   |       completely different."      | ***
*** | Computer Science Undergrad      |                -John Cleese       | ***
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 10:22:36 EDT
From: <SXL136@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: how to spot a pre-frosh

     Or a prefrosh is actually *impressed* with any frat-brat (or the
sororities) and think the whole Greek system infinitely cool. Then they get
the real story. :-)

Sean LeBlanc
    The century's getting old and stale; it needs new tribes.
       -Clive Barker, In the Flesh
From: pirmann@porthos.rutgers.edu (David Pirmann)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: permanent temporary buildings.
Date: 3 Oct 92 04:30:12 GMT
Organization: Rutgers University LCSR

finifter@remus.rutgers.edu (Tracy E. Finifter) writes:

>On the Busch campus at Rutgers University, New Brunswick, there is a building
>whose abbreviation is TCB.  It seems logical, since this building is now
>known as the Taylor Road Classroom Building, but TCB originally stood for
>Temporary Classroom Building.  Well, I guess if you can't change the building,
>change the name. :)

I've heard that half of Rutgers housing was temporary, including
the "River Dorms", built in the 50s, and the "BAMM Dorms" built
probably in the 60s...


dave
From: schuyler@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Schuyler Stultz)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: HOW TO TELL A FRESHMAN
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:30:07 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

In article <19vrfaINNcsg@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> jrd5@po.CWRU.Edu (Jacob DeGlopper) writes:
>
>In a previous article, schuyler@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Schuyler Stultz) says:
>
>>Here at Virginia Tech, your ID has a magnetic strip on the back.
>>That ID is your LIFE.  All sorts of info is encoded there...
>>including how many meals a week you're supposed to get a week
>>and how many you've already eaten.
>
>You mean every week you have to go in and get your ID reset?  Geez... here
No.  They keep it on computer.  On Monday morning (actually, probably Sun at
midnight) they reset you.  If you didn't eat all of your meals, Oh well.
No refunds.  Oh course it's been a couple of years since I had to put up
with that misery.  I decided that for $3.00++ a meal, I could get a much
better tasting meal in town.

-- 
The world looks mighty good to me      | S. Schuyler Stultz
'Cause Tootsie Rolls are all I see.    | schuyler@csugrad.cs.vt.edu 
Whatever it is I think I see,          | Schuyler.Stultz@bbs.oit.unc.edu 
Becomes a tootsie roll to me           | Va Tech CS Dept undergrad
From: darknite@camelot.bradley.edu (John S. Novak III)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Renaming Hallowed Institutions
Date: 2 Oct 92 22:57:32 GMT
Organization: Bradley University

oNow that I think about it, Bradley University may have one of
the most interestingly named buildings...

Imagine if you will a "residence Hall" (Dorm, dammit!) named
Wyckoff Hall.  Think many people refer to it as Wyckoff...?

--
"OP-Code for the day - BAA: Build Ambiguous Assembler"
          -John S. Novak III, 02-05-92
John S. Novak, III		darknite@camelot.bradley.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: jeffries@iastate.edu (Anthony G Jeffries)
Subject: Re: Iowa State University Towers
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 03:17:02 GMT

In <91600@netnews.upenn.edu> jkuner@be.seas.upenn.edu (John A. E. Kuner) writes:

>In article <> williamsk@gtephx.UUCP (Kevin W. Williams) writes:
><>When I was a going to school at ISU, the Towers
><>(Wallace/Wilson/Knapp/Storms) were rumored to be
><>only temporary buildings that were supposed to have
><>been torn down in 1975. Is this story still going
><>around? Have they actually lived 17 years past their
><>reputed design life?
><>
><>
><>Kevin Wayne Williams
><>     UUCP : ...!ames!ncar!noao!enuucp!gtephx!williamsk
><>
><>               Remember : Brute force has an elegance all its own.

I heard this a couple of years ago as a freshman.  However, the last I 
heard was that the Towers were being renovated.  They are, for all practical
purposes, permanent.  I've never lived in them, but I understand that if you
live on the upper floors, you can feel them sway quite a bit in a strong 
wind.  (For those who don't know, the Towers are about twelve stories tall.)
-- 
Anthony Glen Jeffries N0NRO  ><>   Amazing Grace, How Sweet The Sound!   ><>
Journalism and Mass Communication student  Iowa State University  Ames, IA
"For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to 
save the world through Him." John 3:17 (NIV)
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From: zowie@daedalus.stanford.edu (Craig "Powderkeg" DeForest)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: parking tickets
Date: 28 Sep 92 03:48:31 GMT
	<1992Sep25.125119.6309@news2.cis.umn.edu>
	<1992Sep25.162107.26241@news.iastate.edu>
Organization: Stanford Center for Space Science and Astrophysics

In article <foo@bar> bgunzy@iastate.edu (Robert A Gunzenhauser) confesses:
	...
   Last February I moved the truck up one Friday night.  I couldn't find any
   spots so I parked it in a motorcycle spot.  It snowed 6 inches that night, 
   and the next morning I found a ticket on the truck, under that 6 inches! 
   Damm, Parking Systems must be really tight for money!

Or maybe one of 'em rides.  Serves you right, you exhaust-snorting,
blinder-wearing cage driver, for blocking several valuable moto spaces
to stick your single huge blimpo Midwestern, half-ahead-Engineer, 
gas-guzzlin', rodeo visitin', rust-collec-- oh, wait.  Did you say
*SNOW*?

NEVER MIND!
--
Craig `No, I *really* *do* play piano in the marching band!' DeForest
                       zowie@daedalus.stanford.edu
From: zelek@remus.rutgers.edu (Grey Wolf)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Computer Operators
Date: 3 Oct 92 03:25:17 GMT
Organization: Rutgers University

ccohen+@pitt.edu (Caleb N Cohen) writes:

>  Here at Pitt, the operators (2 or 3) are required, as part of their job, 
>to file output.  We take it off the printers and put it into bags (yes
>plastic bags.  Do any other u's do this?).  I work in the engineering

   We just staple the jobs together and put them in wooden bins, or piles to
be shipped off to the other labs on the other campuses.

>could print and, "I just wanted to make sure."  I snapped at him saying, "If
>I wanted everyone to ask me if they could print from the IBM's, i wouldn't
>have put the sign up!  What would I put a sign up explicitly saying
>that you could do something which you could not do?"

   Silly, you forgot to put up a second sign that pointed to the other sign
and read "Read this sign." 

Working in the Lab From Hell,
Chris [zelek@aramis.rutgers.edu]
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Renaming Hallowed Institutions
From: sbrack@jupiter (Steven S. Brack)
Date: 1 Oct 92 18:52:49 EST
Reply-To: sbrack@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu 
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	Well, I'm a student at the University of Toledo, formerly Toledo
	University.  When we switched to University of Toledo in the late 60s,
	when Ohio took over funding us, no one realized that if you pronounce
	the acronym UT, "uht," that it is a very unnice word in Arabic.

	Of course, now that we have more Arabic speaking students, it's become 
	something of an in joke.  8)

	Also, we have Findlay College, now known as Findlay University.
	Or not.  That as whjat the name was set to be changed to, but then
	someone noticed that it's acronym would be F.U., & they decided to
	go with the University of Findlay.

						- SteveB

ObFolklore:  I once heard the story that a teacher's college in Texas was set
	     to be renamed the Sam Houston Institute of Teaching, S.H.I.T. for
	     short, but, for obvious reasons, it didn't happen. 8) 


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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: michaelb@cse.fau.edu (Michael Rogero Brown)
Subject: Re: Stupid Cafeteria Stunts
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:46:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.205125.13356@bbxrbk> russ@bbxrbk (Russ Kepler) writes:
>In article <TROCH.92Oct1110602@gandalf.Rutgers.EDU> troch@gandalf.Rutgers.EDU (Rod Troch) writes:
>
>I can't believe that no one has already answered this one.  The CU
>Boulder dining hall in the student building was names the "Alferd E. 
>Packer Memorial <mumble><mumble>".  Mr. Packer was an occasional
>hunting guide and gold prospector in southern Colorado in the late
>1800's.
>
>Mr. Packer once guided a trip into the Rockies and got caught in a
>snow storm.  The storm was bad enough that he didn't return until the
>spring, and his clients didn't return at all.  When some folks
>returned to the campsite the bones of his clients were found, and
>interesting marks were found on then.  "Butchering" marks in the
>estimation of the discoverers.
>
>There was a trial, and at the trial Mr. Packer was (as I recall from
>my reading) guilty.  Part of the order seemed to indicate that the
>judge wasn't all that pissed about the fact of the cannibalism, but
>that Mr. Packer ate the only other democrats in the county (this part
>may well be UL).
>
I don't think this is a UL
>The original graves were exhumed a couple of years ago, and the report
>I recall hearing supported the original conviction.
>
>So, the student dining facilities in the SUB at CU Boulder are named
>after Colorado's only confirmed cannibal.
>
Alfie Packer is America's only convicted cannibal.  They even had a tv movie
on it.  In Vail, Colorado there's a bar/restarant named for him.  On the
menu are 4 (or 5) large burgers named for his victims.

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<< Michael R. Brown    CS Graduate Student-Florida Atlantic Univ >>
<< Internet: michaelb@sol.cse.fau.edu                            >>
<< BitNet: m_brown@fauvax                                        >>
From: omitchel@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ocie *crow* Mitchell)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: silly frosh and computers
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:20:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711

In article <0bszsgq@rpi.edu> cougar@acm.rpi.edu (Erik Collin) writes:
>The new workstations at RPI are somewhat slow, alright veeery sloww, when
>it comes to getting someone all signed on and their window managers going.
>It takes a few minutes for the system to process a login and while that's
>happening the monitor screen just sits there doing lots of nothing.
>
>Late one night I'm sitting in a lab when in walks a frosh.  He sits down
>at a workstation and signs on.  Of course nothing happens.  After a minute
>or so of pushing random keys and knocking the mouse around he moves to 
>another terminal.  As he begins signing on there his first workstation
>comes to life.
>
>Repeat the above twice.
>
>My twisted evil self was too tired to take advantage of the situation.  Maybe
>when the next group of frosh arrive....
>--
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>--       Erik Collin                       cougar@hermes.acm.rpi.edu       --
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
This reminds me of another way to tell frosh.  They're the only ones with
blank backgrounds on their workstation screens.

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From: jonwllms@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (John Williams)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: class rivalries at colleges
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:13:35 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA
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pratta@rpi.edu (Anthony Edward Prattico) writes:

[alot of stuff deleted...]
: 
: One reason that has changed this in addition to the soldiers from WWII is that
: many colleges that had previously been all male started admitting women. This 
: is not intended to sound sexist, but simply a statement of fact. Upperclassmen
: were now forced to treat the freshman class differently, and many traditions
: suffered, like drinking and fighting songs, required apparel (Like beanies) 
: and other things. And when dorms became coed, even greater restrictions were
: placed on what went on. Things like quiet hours and dorm patrols became the 
: norm, replacing other things. Breakage and theft fees were added to deter
: vandalism and security departments were formed. Here, in the middle of the 
: night, the campus is very quiet.The upperclass dorms are almost deathly silent
: as there are no hall sports, parties or anything at all. We've all retreated
: behind dead-bolted doors trying to forget ever being a freshman. Jobs and
: futures occupy many of our thoughts, and education suddenly seems to be some-
: thing very serious.There's not enough time anymore to do everything, including
: hassling the freshman, let alone doing things for our own benefit. We've grown
: up a lot quicker and under a lot different circumstances than the students of 
: years ago. College is not an option anymore, it seems. It's become almost a
: necessity.

Well, yeah, that's true. Where I live at Tech, things get awfuly quiet
around 7:00 and stay that way...'course, I kinda like that because I 
can listen to my own stuff and do some studying without hearing "thumpThump!
thumpThump!thumpThump!" through the walls late into the night.

There is still pleanty of partying and stuff going on around here. Frankly,
I think that there college life becomes more fun when you don't have to
keep looking over your shoulder, afraid that an upperclassman is going to
pound you. 

-- 

_______________________________________________________________________________
John Williams                                       johnwllms@csugrad.cs.vt.edu
            Virginia Polytechnical Institute and State Univeristy
From: percival@qut.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: The name says it all...
Date: 3 Oct 92 14:18:59 EST
Organization: Queensland University of Technology

	On the subject of meaningful names for our places of higher learning
the New South Wales Institute of Techology (Nizwit) was granted university
status a few years ago, and is now the University of Techology, Sydney (Uterus).
	No doubt many of those students will be telling the story with pride
for many years to come about how *they* come out of the Uterus....

	Andrew Percival
	QUT - 'A University For The Real World'  *yeah, sure*
	
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman)
Subject: Re: permanent temporary buildings.
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date:  4 Oct 92 19:32:56 GMT

hank@wagner.cbs.umn.edu (Craig Amundsen) writes:

>The current site of UCSB was originally a Marine Corps Air Station during
>WWII. At that time the Marines built several "temporary" buildings for use
>during the war. When I greaduated in 1989 many of these buildings were still
>in use as office space for Teaching Assistants.
>-- 
>Craig Amundsen (hank@wagner.cbs.umn.edu)	<STANDARD DISCLAIMER>

>                           Drive Fast, Take Chances

Here at Stanford, we have a trailer park called Manzanita Park, which
was built in 1969 as temporary student housing.  It was scheduled to
be gone by 1972.  Of course, there were undergraduates living there
until this year.

On the bright side, they have finally torn down about half of it to
build a couple of new dorms (one of which I am sitting in right now).
Only a few grad students are still stuck in the trailers.

Adam Elman
aelman@cs.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: michaelb@cse.fau.edu (Michael Rogero Brown)
Subject: Re: Computer Lab Operator Geeks
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:55:54 GMT

In article <92276.082723HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu> <HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Okay, Okay.  I know what you're all thinking.  But here at Penn State I
>
>Anyway, the point is:  What are the horror stories from other universities
>about the computer system/operators/assorted miscellany?
>
Well, I work as a Lab assistant, but I agree.  Some of the 'help' around here
isn't.  Most are more helpful to the faculty then the students.  I guess since
I've worked in retail I'm use to being helpful to customers (which is what 
students are).  A friend of mine went thru a training session they had here
for lab assistants (I missed it), and said the attitude of many of them was
that the 'students were the enemy'.

   Heck, I'm always having to straighten out students who were mis-informed by
lab assistants from other labs about our lab.  See, I work in the only Unix
lab, the other labs have vt-100 terminals or PCs.  The idiots in the other
labs send us people looking for PCs (we don't have any) or tell people they
can't access the Unix machines from the terminals (they can).


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<< Michael R. Brown    CS Graduate Student-Florida Atlantic Univ >>
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