From: et@et.com (Eric H. Taylor)
Subject: what to do? Folks, can we all get along? Re: creating new types of jobs
Followup-To: et@et.com
Summary: Proposals
Keywords: jobs
Organization: Eric Taylor and Associates Inc
Distribution: usa, mexico
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:20:55 GMT
Expires: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 07:00:00 GMT

in <1992Jul25.005727.13195@unixg.ubc.ca> moore@theory.chem.ubc.ca (Brian Moore) writes:

>Well, I agree that arguing about whether it was worse in the 70's
>than now is pointless.  But calling us all 'bad children' and 
>'whiners' is hardly productive either.
>
>[...]
>
>I know that I won't get through the current situation without a lot
>of help, and I'm asking for that help. 
>
>--
>
>Brian Moore
>Chemistry Department, University of British Columbia  
>moore@theory.chem.ubc.ca

in <f4lmc7b@lynx.unm.edu> mwfolsom@hydra.unm.edu (Mike Folsom) writes:

]Wow!
]
]When I discovered that this news group existed I quickly
]subscribed hoping to find some kindred spirits who are
]out there, like me, looking for a job and not finding 
]one and wondering what to do next.
]
]Well, I found that and lots more.
]
]I note the pain and anger.  I understand both of these feelings
]because I've had 'em.  I figure most of those out there looking
]for a job are lots like me.  Years ago they "signed-on" to a 
]system that "promised" if they worked real hard, kept
]there nose clean and to the old grindstone they would be ok.
]During the course of the process they, like me, slowly fell in love 
]with what they do, now they are starting to realize that their
]dreams and hopes are dead meat. 
]
]To reality -
]
]Frankly, things don't look good.  The promised shortage of positions 
]hasn't materialized and probably never will.  Its pretty clear 
][...]
]So lets not jump down each others throat.  Seems to me that this
]group could be helpful to many people by sharing our discoveries
]about the job search process.  In another vein, and prehaps as 
]importantly, it could serve as a tool to let others know that 
]their ain't no shortage of scientists and they can't ignore the
]fact that we exists.
]
]
]Be well - 
]
]Michael
]
]As Jerry Brown would say - speak truth to power!  
]


in <1992Jul29.023220.21839@schaefer.math.wisc.edu> iltis@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Michael Iltis) writes:

)     In view of the difficulty of landing academic jobs, may I ask if anyone 
)in all this sci.research.careers discussion 
)has touched on the reasons other than economic, for creating new types of 
)jobs, or for maintaining old ones, tools needed or useful for envisioning jobs, 
)alternatives to the existing society/ job market? For example if 
)society doesn't have the best interests of individuals at heart, perhaps 
)we should ask what their best interests are, who is needy and could 
)need us, or what this world is in need of. We could aim for some sort of 
)general philosophical framework of discussion
)counterbalanced with practical considerations. For the later, we might 
)consider paying some small dues of money or time (similar to taxes?)
)to allow for the creation of various specialized jobs, whether research 
)oriented or administrative.  (I will place various ideas here. 
)Consider them individually.)
)
)[...]


Well, I have included the above three extracts to illustrate the common
thread to which I am responding. See what I mean?

Historically, the problem is that so many are looking for someone else
to provide the jobs. The new paradigm that is crying out to be born here
is that we all *can* create our own jobs, and put ourselves to work!
Wouldn't it be great if we could all just write the perfect job description
for ourselves, and then poof! have that job?

I have been working on this paradigm as of late, and I call it the
"Self-financing method". Another descriptive term is "independent
researcher". How many of you would like to be able to make money and
sink it into whatever research you wanted, however you wanted to?
Before I explain my concept, allow me to relate some personal data. 

I have been a computer consultant for many years. I make a good and
(usually) steady cash flow. However, my growth is limited, slow, and
erratic. Furthermore, I am a specialist with many years of training
and experience. In other words, I am unable to find anyone to back me
up or replace me. And I am unable to duplicate myself. So what do I do?
I studied both physics and computer science in college. Since I didn't
get a degree in physics, I'm pretty much locked out of finding a standard
job doing physics, right?. And I'm the best there is at the consulting
that I have been doing, but to be honest, it's real boring stuff (and
how many of you out there are bored to tears with the stuff you're doing?).
So hey, here I am, deciding to do my own research laboratory, and go it
alone (great idea, huh?). Well, equipment is expensive, and time spent
doing research may take many years to provide a return. So bottom line
question that I faced is, how do I finance myself? Any ideas? Well, I've
been wrastling with this question for quite some time, and the answer is
all of a sudden coming to fruition! I am now approaching the situation
where I can build my own lab, buy my own equipment, and have the time
and energy to devote to my own studies. Is that what you'd like to do?

Believe me, the business plan can be shared and taught to almost anyone.
Part of my own personal plan is to organize and bring together my own
network of researchers, all working in support of one or more of the 
common goals. These goals I will include at the end of this posting.
Sound too good to be true? Then let me add a little perspective for you.

"Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in
 the day to find that all was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are 
 dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, and make
 it possible." -- T.E.Lawrence

Guess which type of person I am! As further perspective, realize that
when I say "I am going to do ..." it will probably happen, but if
I say "I would like to do ..." it probably wont. Are you with me?

Also, I make my deadlines. Are you familiar with the computer industry?
How often do software development projects make their deadlines, in
general? I do, and I can give many references backing that up, if
you are interested.

OK! So read thru my goals. If just ONE of my goals is in line with
yours, please contact me ASAP! This is a serious and committed
endeavor which I am on, and I would appreciate the same in you.
In other words, serious inquiries ONLY!
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assist/enable travel to Mars, development of solar system resources,
transfering polluting industry to the Moon, and cleaning up our own
biosphere (reverse terraforming).

3. To develop methods of self-financing. It is our goal to empower all
researchers who associate with us to become financially independant. This
includes allowing all associates to retain full ownership of all intellectual
property they develop. These methods do *not* include stock, venture capital,
grants, loans or any method that obligates in any way the researcher's rights
or property.

4. To improve and enhance individual productivity. This includes increasing
effectiveness, capacity, ability, health, concentration, awareness,
alertness, knowledge, and so on.

5. To share and disseminate knowledge, methods, and technologies to all
associated researchers as we learn, discover, and invent.

6. To develop a new society/social order/economy of free enterprise,
equal opportunity for all, truly representative government, and personal
rights and freedom. Note: I fully believe in and support the United
States Government as set forth by the U.S. Constitution.


NOTE: All the above objectives currently have one or more actual lines
of research underway. If you wish to participate, join our team, share
your own research, and/or help out in any way, or just learn more about
us, please contact us using the information listed above.

Eric H. Taylor
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