HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: s900881@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Nigel Patrick Cunningham)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: please sign here
Date: 15 Oct 92 03:42:42 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au

My apoliges to those confused by the above.
All of my explaining remarks have unexplicably been removed?
It went something like this:
	Please join the backrub database, as although I
	(probably) won't benefit from it, (I live in Australia)
	I like the principle behind it.  Those below (with From:
	written infront) are especially requested (maybe with
	the exception of Sean), as you were active in this group
	at time of writing.  Below these names is the start of
	said database.  It will require someone with better 
	knowledge of American geography to set a ground map.
	(I don't even know where Delaware is (sorry Jodi)
	(on the east coast?))
Please don't abuse me, I'm a novice
and I'm experiencing technical difficulties (Like a two day
delay)

Smile,
Nitro.


:-) So that's how you do them:-)
:-) :-) :-) :-)  :-) :-) :-) :-)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: johnsons@cheshire.oxy.edu (Sarah Curtis Johnson)
Subject: Re: This is a story...I hope no one minds, and if you like it, tell me.
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:51:37 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.084305.1949@leland.Stanford.EDU> sykopath@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mickey) writes:
>I hope you all enjoy this story, and that it's not too far outside
>the charter of this group...
>
>This story is collated from a variety of real-life experiences; if one
>of you happens to see yourself here, don't worry...
>...no one will know it's you.  :)
>
>Mickey.
 
I loved the story...thank you!

:)

-Sarah

Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: singer@minerva.cis.yale.edu (E.K. Singer)
Subject: Rolfing
Followup-To: alt.backrubs
Organization: Yale University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:05:45 GMT

   I apogize for taking up space with this message when it could have been
avoided if I'd thought about it when I posted the previous message.  What I
should have done is put the word Rolfing in the title of my last message. 
I didn't, but that's what it's about.  Anyone interested in Rolfing should
read that message (the one titled RE:  HELP WANTED -- Neck Trouble).

                                                                           
            Erik Singer

E-mail:  singer@minerva.cis.yale.edu
Actual address:  P.O. Box 2945, New Haven, CT 06520
From: Chuck.Jones@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Techniques?
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992
Date: 10 Oct 92  10:10:06

MMM>Organization: Kansas State University
MMM>From: myrtle@topper.ksu.ksu.edu (Mary Marie Miller)
MMM>Message-ID: 1b4eciINNmnc@topper.ksu.ksu.edu
MMM>Newsgroups: alt.backrubs



MMM> Howdy,

MMM>     I need some advice on techniques of backrubs.  I've
MMM>been giving them to my
MMM> boyfriend for years, but I need some ideas to make an old backrub into an
MMM> exciting experience.

MMM>      Any ideas would be welcome!!

MMM>                                       Mary


MMM> **P.S.  Please incluce specific details, or come on down
MMM>to Manhattan and show
MMM>         me how it's done!

Mary, maybe you should check with the wierdo who was spouting off about
sperm back rubs...you could enlist your boyfriends buddies, or maybe do a
variation and check out your female friends with newborns and an excess
of natural baby food available....Anyway, if you have run out of ideas it
is probably time to move on to the next step after backrubs...use your
imagination..rent a couple of xxxx rated videos, you might find some
suggestions to build upon...

Chuck

 * SLMR 2.1a * Did you realize that /(69) is 8 something?

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Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: Human Being <human@earth.com>
Subject: Where to get massage oils
Organization: world peace
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:51:19 GMT

I'm just curious where people purchase oils used for massage.
Are there specialty shops or can you get them at pharmacies or drug
stores?

What do you ask for?


Just curious.
From: cbarkley@.engr.trinity.edu (Chris Barkley)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: backrub exchange
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:30:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computer Science, Trinity University

Name:  Christopher Barkley
Gender:  Male
Specialties:  Talented amateur
Location:  San Antonio, TX
Will Exchange with:  Female
-- 
Christopher Barkley
The DarkMage
cbarkley@tusol.cs.trinity.edu
Reality is a State of Mind
From: Chuck.Jones@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Where to get massage
Date: 13 Oct 92 01:13:00 GMT
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992

DH> > Hi...I'm getting the message...I'd even offer a rub, but you are what I
DH> > see as geographically unavailable....I'm in So. California.... Anyway,
DH> > you can print this out and use the reverse side for a hanky....:) !!

DH>Chucky's back..... <g> (Sorry, just got through watching the
DH>Child's Play series of movies....) But I just couldn't pass up
DH>the opportunity to comment that you and I are, potentially at
DH>least, geographically available..... <hint, hint>

The ball is in your court...

Chuckie.......

 * SLMR 2.1a * Be alert - we need more lerts

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Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: maci9154@mach1.wlu.ca (macivor dawna)
Subject: Massage oils & lotions
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:40:07 GMT

I've just recently joined this newsgroup, so I probably missed this before,
but would appreciate suggestions anyways.

I'd like suggestions as to what kinds of lotions and oils are best for
backrubs.  I've tried the vanilla lotion from the BODY SHOP, and liked it,
but a lot of people aren't too keen on vanilla.

Types of oils/lotions and different scents to use would be appreciated!

Thank you very much in advance!

Dawna =)
maci9154@mach1.wlu.ca
From: dblackbu@alleg.edu (Dave Blackburn)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: HELP WANTED - Neck Trouble
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:04:01 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College

In article <1992Oct12.231809.17981@leland.Stanford.EDU>  
sykopath@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mickey) writes:
|
|Then I tried a pressure point once.  It worked.
|
|The pressure point was the fleshy web of skin between the thumb and the
|first finger.  
|
|Take your left hand, hold it out palm-down in front of you.  Take your
|right hand, position it with the back facing towards you and up
|towards your face, and the fingers pointing out to your left.  Move
|the hands together such that the left thumb is pointing along the back
|of the right thumb, the tip of the right first finger is touching the
|center of the flesh between the left thumb and first finger (on the
|outside, i.e. back, of the hand), and the right thumb is touching the
|corresponding spot on the palm of the left hand.
|
|Squeeze the right hand gently (I get best results when there is a tiny
|bit of discomfort, but no pain, and definitely no strain in the right
|hand) onto the left hand, so that the finger and thumb are applying
|pressure to the center of the flesh between the left thumb and first
|finger (NOTE: I get best results when my right thumb and finger are
|more or less vertical to the plane of the flesh they are pinching, i.e.
|applying pressure directly downward on it).
|
|It works unbelievably well for me, and I hope it does at least
|something for you...
|
|(NOTE: if all you have between the pinching fingers is a piece of skin,
|you're too near the edge of the fleshy part.  You should be holding
|onto an appreciable chunk of muscle as well as skin...
|....basically, move inward from the edge of the flesh until your fingers 
|pass over the first lump of muscle, and settle into the depression
|right behind it.  That's where you need to apply the pressure...
|....and don't give up.  It takes a minute or two to have an effect)
|
Wow! Works great! (and less obtrusive during boring meetings than giving  
yourself a neck massage!
Thanks, Mickey!
--

* Dave Blackburn  dblackbu@alleg.edu  flames to self@home.dev.null *          
* Chemistry, Macs, Hypercard, cats,  <>< religion, & the Dead      *
* (Anyone else who held these opinions would be as crazy as I am.) *
*   "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own"   *
From: wixer!cactus.org!wixer!pro-lep.cts.com!syslep@cactus.org (System Leprechaun)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: Backrub Exchange?
Date: 8 Oct 1992 01:47:12 -0500
Organization: The Texas Leprechaun BBS, Austin, Texas
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

richard@octel.com (Richard Karasik) writes:

>Curious- I already started doing this several months back and have gotten only 4
>responses on the net -it seems like this group was created by some spurious
>spontaneous combustion of neurons -rather than a lot of real members!!!
> or long time massage afficionados !! At any case a list would be nice, but people
> have gotta wanna play !
> Richard

The biggest problem is the wide viewership.  You've gotta be in the same
locality.  There's an inverse square law at work here.  The greater the need
for a backrub, the further away lives the masseur or masseuse.
From: ST201434@brownvm.brown.edu (-jude)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: This is a story...I hope no one minds, and if
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:40:02 EDT
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: brownvm.brown.edu
News-Software: BNN via BNN_POST v1.0 beta

I like it, I like it!  I lik giving as much (if not more) than receiving,
too.  But you could change my mind....

Ever come to Providence?  :)

                                -jude

"I never met a backrub(ber) I didn't like."
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 9 Oct 1992 23:59:21 CDT
From: kapoulas george <U47041@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: massage xchange

well after seein al this about backrub xchaneges i think the b
best thing would be
 to have some kind of geographic list of readers of this group
and start a good story ( backrubs )  asap
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: yunus@loro-next.Stanford.EDU (Jonas Sami Celebiler)
Subject: idea : back rub circles
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 09:53:04 GMT


It's all in the title.  It was a new idea to me. I dunno......
From: sonic@cray.com (Curtis L. Swanson)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: SPERM backrub
Keywords: sperm, backrub
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:33:57 GMT

I just have one comment for him - Ain't puberty wonderful?

***  Curt Swanson  ***  sonic@romulus.cray.com  ***  IOTTMCO  *********
HOME:n - That mythical place where you can go and relax.......
I'd rather be in a coma.........
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: sonic@cray.com (Curtis L. Swanson)
Subject: Re: Do you all realize what you're doing?
Followup-To: misc.misc
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:59:00 CDT


In article 1@cc.curtin.edu.au, rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au () writes:
> In article <JARTSU.92Oct10142535@lk-hp-10.hut.fi>, jartsu@vipu.hut.fi (Jartsu) writes:
>> Go join the other kids and leave the net alone.
> Go join the other spuds and grow like a potato.
Go join the other suds and get belched as you are swallowed.

burp!
From: WJB117@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: backrub exchange
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:08:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Penn State University

Myra your lucky someone in pa is repleing. and I go to Penn State. Originally I
 am from Tamaqua which is about 2-2.5 hrs out of philly. But right now i am at
University park so I really could use a good backrub and i am will to give you
one if we can get together sometime. my name is william brown S.W.M. age 20.
 SEND ME E-MAIL AND WILL GET TOGETHER
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: This is a story...I hope no one minds, and if you like it, tell me.
From: nwchritton@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Badass Gremlin)
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:13:42 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <1992Oct7.185137.10837@cheshire.oxy.edu>, johnsons@cheshire.oxy.edu (Sarah Curtis Johnson) writes:
> In article <1992Oct7.084305.1949@leland.Stanford.EDU> sykopath@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mickey) writes:
>>I hope you all enjoy this story, and that it's not too far outside
>>the charter of this group...
>>
>>This story is collated from a variety of real-life experiences; if one
>>of you happens to see yourself here, don't worry...
>>...no one will know it's you.  :)
>>
>>Mickey.
>  
> I loved the story...thank you!
> 
> :)
> 
> -Sarah
> 

 Me too.
           Thank you for a piece of writing that can give a glimpse of how some 
of us feel when we give a backrub.

   Hehehe. Quite a rush, isn't it?


Neil
From: Chuck.Jones@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Where to get massage oil
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:08:02 GMT
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992

US>Organization: world peace
US>From: Human Being <human@earth.com>
US>Message-ID: 1992Oct8.205119.10498@morrow.stanford.edu
US>Newsgroups: alt.backrubs

US>I'm just curious where people purchase oils used for massage.
US>Are there specialty shops or can you get them at pharmacies or drug
US>stores?

US>What do you ask for?

You can use natural vegetable oils such as sunflower, safflower, peanut,
or just plain `vegetable shortening' if nothing else is available.
I prefer cold pressed oils that are extracted without the use of solvents.
I add a few drops of one or several essential oils, such as pine,
eucalyptus, birch, marjoram, patchouli, bergamot, chamomile, lavender,
etc. A few drops of balsam peru essential oil gives a smooth and satiny
texture to the skin you are working on....and reduces the need to keep
adding oil as you work... I use this in addition to one to three other
essentials added to a sunflower oil base. I use a dispenser spout type
container that can be closed to prevent spills. Dont mix more than a few
ounces at a time.. A full body massage should require only about  an
ounce of oil for the entire body, unless you are dealing with a `furry
monster' which might require a bit more. The idea is to make your hands
move easily over the skin, not to marinate the victim for roasting...<g>
Natural oils should not be allowed to become rancid from standing in the
sun. If it must last for more than a week I usually refrigerate mixed oil
until it is needed.... But PLEASE don't use cold oil straight out of the
`fridge without warming it!!!!

US>Just curious.

A good way to travel through life....

Massage: The pleasure you get for the pains you got....<smile>..

Chuck

 * SLMR 2.1a * Get rubbed the right way...Have a massage!

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Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jay Elmore)
Subject: Backrub Database?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix (sponsored by U. of Denver Math/CS dept.)
Disclaimer1: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University of
Disclaimer2: Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
Disclaimer3: control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 04:25:12 GMT

A "backrub database" sounds like a great idea to me! I'll post my stats
below, but I just wanted to comment on some of the things I've read here.
As for Sean's...interesting posting, I suggest that person who wrote it
(be it Sean or someone logged on as him) get a life. Period.
As for the "sexual or not" controversy, I believe that massage, backrubs,
etc. can be the best non-sexual way to be physically intimate with another
person. Which is one of the reasons I prefer giving backrubs to women;
okay, so I'm slightly homophobic!
But honestly, although I have given backrubs to women, only to have "one
thing lead to another", I've given many more out of the kindness of my
heart. Besides, in those exceptional cases, there was already some
chemistry between us; the backrub was just to get comfortable.
Anyway, here is the info:
NAME: John W. ("Jay") Elmore
LOCATION: McMinnville, OR
SPECIALITIES: Improvisational
GENDER: Male
WILLING TO EXCHANGE BACKRUBS WITH: Female (sorry)
E-Mail address: johnel@audrey.linfield.edu
If this file gets compiled sometime in the near future, can someone email
me a copy? Imagine: backrubbing my way across the U.S. for Spring Break!

(Well, one can dream...)

Thanks!
Jay (=
From: cc7f+@andrew.cmu.edu (Christopher Cochran)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: sensuality
Date: 12 Oct 92 00:58:36 GMT
Organization: University Libraries - E&S Library, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

In note of 5 Oct 92 v125jamm@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu <A.C.> writes:

backrubs are sensual not sexual in nature...Giving backrubs is an
acceptible (sic) way to touch or somehow be sensual with people that are
otherwise "off limits".


OK, this is a cool BB.  Very interesting material.  My own thoughts on
the comment above are that there are two very distinct forms of massage:
 one is therapeutic and the other is sexual.  It shouldn't be too hard
to determine which kind you want or are willing to give.  While I enjoy
receiving a sexual massage from a partner, I wouldn't expect him to be
able to solve the therapeutic needs I might have.  For that I go to a
professional massage therapist (who happens to be a friend of mine who
still charges me $45 for 90 minutes, but that's pretty good).  He is
profesionally trained and knows what he is doing and can feel through to
the muscle to correct a particular problem.  I would not expect
something like that from a sexual partner.  While we can't all spend $45
whenever we have a crick in our neck (and I usually utilize this method
as a "treat" to myself), from a theoretical perspective there is a clear
distinction between needing to get rid of pain and needing to get off. 
By the way my friend lives in D.C. and I would be happy to make a
referral if anyone is down there.  He is great and has saved my life a
few times, the most recent when I had a pinched nerve due to vertabrae
misalignment.  

CC
From: stp@controls.ccd.harris.com (Stephen T. Pierce)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: backrub exchange
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:39:33 GMT
Reply-To: steve@rtfm.mlb.fl.us
Distribution: usa
Organization: Space Coast Naturists
Originator: stp@rs2


 Name:  Steve Pierce
 Gender:  Male
 Experience:  Lots of amateur stuff, couple of workshops
 City:  Palm Bay, FL
 Will Trade With:  Anyone, as long as they reciprocate
 Favorite Massage Experience:  Hot Tub Circle Massage (with 24 people involved
  in some very relaxing reciprocal massaging) at Mid-Winter Naturist Gathering,
  Feb 92
-- 
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Steve Pierce	INTERNET: stp@rs2.ccd.harris.com or steve@rtfm.mlb.fl.us
	Ask me about Space Coast Naturists!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: Darren.Hanson@f271.n103.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: please sign here
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:21:00 GMT
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992


 > Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
 > From: s900881@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Nigel Patrick
 > Cunningham)
 > Message-ID: s900881.719041753@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
 > Newsgroups: alt.backrubs

 > From: beowulf@wam.umd.edu (amealuh)
 > From: kristen@telerama.pgh.pa.us (Kristen McQuillin)
 > From: alerman@terapin.com (Alexander Lerman)
 > From: Curtis S. Gibson   curt%quest.UUCP@cs.umn.edu
 > From: krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us (D. 'krikket' Krick)
 > From: cf210@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael A Whitaker)
 > From: Darren.Hanson@f271.n103.z1.fidonet.org
For reliable delivery use "darren@ofa123.fidonet.org" instead.
If anybody is logging this, please update accordingly....

<editted>

 > From: Chuck.Jones@ofa123.fidonet.org
Like this one. <grin>

<remainder deleted....>

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Newsgroups: alt.backrubs,alt.consciousness,alt.meditation.transcendental,alt.native,sci.anthropology,soc.culture.misc
From: biscuit@engin.umich.edu (George F DeLaMater)
Subject: HELP WANTED - Neck Trouble
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 00:27:24 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

Greetings and salutations to the field experts of alt.backrubs!

I come to you with a bit of a problem.  I suffer from headaches
every day, and have endured this problem for years.  Most of my
headaches stem from extreme neck tension when I wake up.  Thus far,
nothing has helped me much - I occasionally see a chiropracter when
my neck is obviously out of whack, and get a good bit of relief then,
but he cannot help me with my "everyday" pain, and as such I must take
30-50 Excedrin per week to ease my headaches, which is obviously not
good.  As my headaches (and tension) seem to be rooted in my sleep,
I have experimented with numerous types of pillows to little effect.

Last year, I was able (for a short time) to see a physical therapist
who was able to loosen my neck up a bit after a month or so (she
initially described my neck as being like a tree trunk, because she
could not move a single bone in my neck for a week) - eventually, she
got two of the lower ones to move for her, but then my financial
situation took a downturn, and I could no longer afford treatment.
She did show me one thing I could do to help myself: lying down with
my head supported, I can hook the fingers of both hands and reach back
to the spot at the base of my skull where the corded muscles (don't
know what they're called) attach.  Placing my fingers between these
bands of muscle, I can press quite hard and exert a medium degree of
lateral pressure.  By doing this and holding, the muscles sometimes
ease up a bit for me - never enough to make a headache go away or
prevent one from occurring, but sometimes this will take the edge off
of a really bad one enough so that my pain killers stand a chance of
working.

Anyway... I am wondering if there are any experts out there who might
know of anything else I might try to make my neck ease up.  For the
forseeable future, I would have to help myself, as I have no partner.
(Actually, I *do* know someone... but no chance of the two of us being
in the same locale until next year, so for now I have to make do with
the tools at hand.)

Thanks in advance for your assistance!


-- 
Experience is a wonderful |   George F. DeLaMater   |      If        don't
teacher, but fools will   |-------------------------|      it        TOUCH
learn from no other.      | biscuit@engin.umich.edu |     GLOWS       it. 
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From: Chuck.Jones@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: Where to get massage
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992
Date: 10 Oct 92  10:10:04

KMS>Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
KMS>From: kirsten@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Kirsten melissa Starcher)
KMS>Message-ID: 1992Oct9.010736.23405@cs.mun.ca
KMS>Newsgroups: alt.backrubs

KMS>In article <1992Oct8.205119.10498@morrow.stanford.edu>
KMS>Human Being <human@earth.com> writes:
KMS>>I'm just curious where people purchase oils used for massage.
KMS>>Are there specialty shops or can you get them at pharmacies or drug
KMS>>stores?
KMS>>
KMS>>What do you ask for?

KMS>I've gotten some from the Body Shop -- you can get them in somewhere
around
KMS>different scents, and it's decent stuff if you're not doing some kind of
KMS>professional massage, I suppose.

Try to buy stuff that doesn't have mineral oil in it...Veggie oils are
best for your skin....

KMS>Could somebody tell me if they get this message?  I've posted about 2 or 3
KMS>messages in the past week or so, and no one seems to reply to them.  Maybe
KMS>I'm just not very interesting.  <sniff>

Hi...I'm getting the message...I'd even offer a rub, but you are what I
see as geographically unavailable....I'm in So. California....
Anyway, you can print this out and use the reverse side for a hanky....:)
!!
Chuck
-
KMS>Kirsten Starcher                              Your breath is steaming up
KMS>kirsten@morgan.ucs.mun.ca                     my contact lenses.
KMS>kirsten@garfield.cs.mun.ca

KMS>This posting brought to you by the letters f, y, v, and the number i.
-

 * SLMR 2.1a *  I saw that! You smiled! 

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