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From: bp979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark D. Rabinowitz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: LGO: Becca Nude Portrait Episode to be Rerun NEXT WEEK!
Date: 12 Jan 1993 02:44:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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  In response to Cindy Camp's reply:
  The basis of your argument is that Jesse's painting is how he
imagined Becca nude. My thought was that 1) Becca was in shock 
over the idea of Jesse displaying it at all. THAT, I felt, was
why Becca said, "But I'm naked." And if this painting was in fact
the pure product of Jesse's imagination, why in the opening scene
did they only show Becca's head and shoulders, and not her in
some form of dress? To tease, maybe? I don't think so.
  I agree that the painting and the show were done in good taste.
I worry about how the creeps would use it against her, make her 
the target for sexual harassment, maybe. If in fact she can 
handle this, then I will weep in joy for her (and in sadness for
myself, because handling stress is not what I do well).
  If in fact she would be bothered by being called Kellie-Bellie,
I would respect that. There is a popular brand of jellybean 
called Jelly-Belly, and French for beautiful is "belle." So she
is not only beautiful to me, sh
e (like the jellybean) is
sweet, soft, colorful, and juicy. Because I have difficulty
trying to put this infatuation behind me, I am crying for help.
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From: kenny@osf.org (Kenneth Crudup)
Subject: Re: 'Da Bears
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:19:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.085450.2391@hemlock.cray.com>
jeffy@cray.com (Jeffrey Neau) writes:

>I've heard that Ditka is somewhat of a cult figure in Chicago.

He is. (I'm from there)

>Look what he's done for the team over the last 11 years.  Took them from the
>pit of the NFC Central to the SuperBowl.

Oh for that it were not a round-trip! (Well, OK, it ain't all his fault.)

	-Kenny
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From: langbein@pilot.njin.net (John Langbein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: TV technology question
Date: 7 Jan 93 02:15:32 GMT
Organization: Information Builders, Inc.
To: jlpicard@austin.ibm.com

In article <C0FvEG.1Gqw@austin.ibm.com> jlpicard@austin.ibm.com (Craig Becker) writes:

> Perhaps this isn't the correct newsgroup to ask in (if so, kindly
> direct me to the proper place), but my girlfriend and I were sitting
> around the other day wondering

It would probably be best posted in rec.video, but since you asked...

> a) why don't networks broadcast unique codes for each show to
>    indicate their start and end? This way, VCRs could be set to
>    automatically record a program from beginning to end (no more
>    missing the last 3 minutes), and if the president gives a speech
>    and delays broadcasting, you'd still get the whole show. For 
>    example, the tv guide lists _Cheers_ as code 2539, so I enter it
>    into the VCR and it takes care of recording it for me.

> b) similarly, couldn't networks also broadcast a time code along
>    with the video? This way, televisions and VCRs could automatically
>    set themselves to the correct time.

Well, the question comes down to "Is the technology there", and "Can
it be done", followed by "Why will/won't it be done".

Networks could broadcast codes for start/finish of programs. The
technology is there. Same for a 'clock' signal. In fact, the clock
signal exists right now, but it is just not used on a standard
frequency for Television. The 'Clock', could be transmitted easily on
cable systems, but we need a way to set VCR's to look on these certain
frequencies. Technology is there. I think it would be fairly
cost-efficient (The clock would take almost nil bandwidth). Why? I
don't know.

Unfortunately, the start/stop of VCR's by networks via codes, as
technologically feasable as it may be, will never happen the way we
want it to. pre/post show sponsors would want their commercials on the
tape, so the codes would have to make sure commercials are in. The
other problem is that the VCR has to have a proper setting for time so
the code can be interpreted, and the VCR can look for the start signal
close to the right time/station. I think the technology might be a bit
more involved than VCRPlus, and cost could be a bit much at first. 

What about sponsors that have paid time at 7pm, their commercial comes
on, but the show is delayed 10 minutes. He may get upset that his
commercial which would of gotten taped didn't. 

It depends on sponsors. If they can be influenced that it was in their
interest, they would open the way for the technology to come forward.

Forget asking the VCR's to auto-cut commercials. No way. Never happen.

hope this helps.

				John
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From: edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: "AToTS": observations
Date: 6 Jan 1993 16:52:31 GMT
Organization: Little to none, or maybe not......
NNTP-Posting-Host: evolution.bchs.uh.edu

In article <1993Jan6.044640.19346@midway.uchicago.edu> rck1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:

>Overall, this episode seemed to be no more than a "what's the
>weirdest situation we can stick Sam into this time?" While this
>isn't necessarily a bad reason in itself, this particular one just
>seemed really quite pointless.

Actually, it seemed as if the writers had simply decided to mine the 
classic sitcom tradition of "a man on two dates simultaneously".  The
twist being that Sam was married to both of his "dates".   In particular,
I was reminded of the "Flinstones" episode, and the "Family Ties" prom
episode.

Bleah.

...and, for the record, about 4.5 minutes of the episode was zapped by
the B**gieman here too.

<ESC>
-- 
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From: kpapai@rahul.net (Ken Papai)
Subject: Re: New Sci-Fi Shows
Organization: a2i network
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:02:06 GMT

In <10903@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:
>mcsweinberg@memstvx1.memst.edu wrote:
>: Can someone name the 5 New Science Fiction Serials that are Premiering and
>: what times and channels they will be on I know 1.
>: 
>: Deep Space Nine on Fox Sat Night.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Sorry, but this seems to be a common misconception.  The Star Trek 
>series are in syndication so they may not be on a Fox affiliate 
>everywhere.  In fact where I live the local ABC affiliate carries
>ST:TNG and will be carrying Deep Space Nine.  In other words,
>check your local listings . . .
>I think it *is* likely that the Fox affiliates will be carrying
>Babylon 5 since I believe that is a Fox production.

Sorry, this seems to be an uncommon mistake.
Babylon 5 has *nothing* *at all* to do with Fox.
It is closer to Warner than anything else actually!
It is *not* a series, but a proposed series, with the premiere 'movie'
due in Feb '93.  On the "Prime Network" comglomeration of TV stations,
who knows yet what they are.  About 180 stations have signed on so far
according to Cinefantastique mag.

Rumors are that Warner will pick up the production if B5 becomes a
series reality this Fall.  Let's hope!
 
-- 
Ken Papai <kpapai@rahul.net>
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From: tbromley@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Thomas Bromley)
Subject: Re: LIFE GOES ON: How Would You Write Libby Off?
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:33:51 GMT

Gordon_Wong@mindlink.bc.ca (Gordon Wong) writes:

> > Mark D. Rabinowitz writes:
> >
> >   If it's the last year, fine. Although it would be interesting
> > to see Libby in a situation where she leaves but still lives,
> > such a situation is impossible.
> >
> 
> 
> From what I hear, if the show continues after this year, they will write
> Libby off the show..
> 
> What I would like to hear is what are good ways to write Libby off?

Well, since they used it last season to write off Tyler, I'd rule out an 
auto accident.

My guess is that they wouldn't "write Libby off", just not use her in the 
stories.  They could focus more on Jesse and Becca (at college, 
perhaps?), and Corky and Amanda (maybe move out of the room over the 
garage into their own house), and work Drew, Paige (and Artie), and 
anyone else in as appropriate, leaving the doord open for Patti Lupone to 
return when available.

Tom
From: mikeq@freddy.CNA.TEK.COM (Mike Quigley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: "I know a great Chardonnay..."
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:10:54 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Redmond,  OR.

If I may paraphrase a line from Blue Velvet:

                  ``Chardonnay! Fuck that shit! Thunderbird!''

Mike
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From: mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen)
Subject: Re: QL: bookmarker?!
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 05:50:48 GMT

acb@cory.Berkeley.EDU (aka Angelo Muscat) writes:

>Incidentally my local Waldenbooks is selling all their calenders at 50%
>off. It would be my guess that the whole chain is probably doing this.
>So now it is time to get those QL calenders if you haven't already!!
>I bought the last 3 in my store and I intend to give them to friends
>who I am trying to get to watch QL.

I paid a buck for mine at Dollar Discount in Pikesville, MD.  It's in
Colonial Village Shopping Center I think for those of you in the
Baltimore area.

Mike
--
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From: lazarus@ug.cs.dal.ca (Chuck Turner)
Subject: Re: Kids In The Hall question (a different one)
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:33:59 GMT

In article <93Jan4.114046est.47653@neat.cs.toronto.edu> sjgreen@cs.toronto.edu (Steve Green) writes:
>bobhurt@cac.washington.edu (Bob Hurt ) writes:
>> 
>> Also, in Seattle we're lucky enough to get a Canadian station; I believe it
>> is CBUT.  They show KITH on Friday night at 11:00pm, but I'm not sure if 
>> they're new shows.  Does anyone know?
>
>The CBC is showing two episodes every Friday night at 11:00 (part of
>their "adult" 10-12 programming.  From what I've seen, the first one
>is new, and the second ep. is old.  I do like the segues between the
>shows, though.

They mix it up a bit.  There have been some nights when neither episode
was new.  I don't know why they do this.  

>It's kind of strange, for the longest time the CBC wasn't showing any
>KITH, and then over Xmas, I could watch two episodes every night.  I
>guess I shouldn't complain.

Kids In The Hall has been on at this time since early/mid November, when
CBC switched to their new format.  KitH wasn't on earlier in the fall
because CBC knew that everyone would be watching the Blue Jays on CTV.
(...or so the rumour goes) 

						- Chuck 
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From: bp979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark D. Rabinowitz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: LGO: Becca Nude Portrait Episode to be Rerun NEXT WEEK!
Date: 11 Jan 1993 01:15:46 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


  Please do not be misled. I am not some narrow-minded creep who
thinks that nude=sexually inviting. I post this message because
I want to discuss the awkward position that Kellie Martin has
been put in. See, I doubt that she didn't know about the conse-
quences of doing this. You try doing a show like that at age 16.
  So when I first saw the episode, it made me feel so badly for
her. I know that most of the community around her would recognize
this challenge she took as an artistic one (that is to say, the
acting community). But what about the world outside? Would she
view other men's infatuations differently because "they may have
seen the nude portrait episode"? I am crying for help because I
do not wish for her to see my infatuation negatively.
  And was that her in the portrait, or a double? No way could
that have been her. At most, it could have been her head imposed
upon an adult model's body. I had never heard of anyone under
age 18 displayed in a nude portrait before.
  If you got sexually excited finding this message in the list
of messages, *FUCK YOU*. That is exactly what I don't want my
Kellie-Bellie to hear about, and I don't want to be associated
with your kind. That is all. The episode in question is next 
Sunday night at 7, I do believe.
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                     CENSORSHIP IS UNAMERICAN
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From: amadeus@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: _thirtysomething_ episode guide
Date: 12 Jan 1993 21:41:37 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: mickey.cc.utexas.edu


Just wanted to say that I have it now, and thanks to the people who
sent me one.

-- 
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"Queens never make bargains."  -- The Red Queen, _Through the Looking Glass_
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From: lf01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Liz Fox)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Full House (ABC): Help Me!
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:26:04 GMT
	<1992Dec31.091808.16208@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Distribution: na
Organization: Office of the Dean - CFA, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

On 31-Dec-92 in Re: Full House (ABC):  Help..
user Dwight Joe@leland.Stanfo writes:
>D.J., Stephanie, Michelle:  daughters of Danny
> 
>By the way, what does "D.J." stand for?  None of the respondents 
>mentioned it.
> 

DJ stands for "Donna Jo"

-Liz Fox
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From: ddogan@AFIT.AF.MIL
Subject: Re: Courageous Cat and Minute Mouse
Organization: Air Force Institue of Technology, WPAFB OH
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 19:55:15 GMT

In article <184813@pyramid.pyramid.com> llk@pyrxbooter.eng.pyramid.com (Lynn Lassalle-Klein) writes:
>From: llk@pyrxbooter.eng.pyramid.com (Lynn Lassalle-Klein)
>Subject: Courageous Cat and Minute Mouse
>Date: 6 Jan 93 22:24:09 GMT
>Anyone remember these cartoons from the early/mid 1960s or so?  Last
>night I was reminiscing with my husband about this show, and
>once I got thinking of it, I could not get the theme song with
>the walking baseline out of my head.
>
>I was also trying to remember some of the characters, and all I
>could remember is the Frog.  Maybe someone out there can fill in
>some details for a sentimental journey.
>
>Now that I'm older and wordly, I assume this cartoon was sort of
>a ripoff of Batman, since Courageous Cat drove what I guess was
>a catmobile and lived in a cat cave.  Yes?  No?

  Courageous Cat & Minute Mouse were created by Bob Kane, who was also the 
creator of Batman, which would account for the similarities between the 
characters (I believe the cartoon characters were intended as a lampoon of 
the Batman character).  The Frog was the major nemesis -- he had a gorilla 
as a hench-man ("I like bananas.").  Another minor enemy was Darryl Hambone, 
a washed-up stage actor turned bad guy.

  I seem to recall the Courageous Cat had a gun for every occasion.
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From: snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com (Cindy Camp)
Subject: Re: LGO: Becca Nude Portrait Episode to be Rerun NEXT WEEK!
Organization: Denver, Colorado
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:28:33 GMT

In article <1iqho2INNe84@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bp979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark D. Rabinowitz) writes:

>  Please do not be misled. I am not some narrow-minded creep who
>thinks that nude=sexually inviting. I post this message because
>I want to discuss the awkward position that Kellie Martin has
>been put in. See, I doubt that she didn't know about the conse-
>quences of doing this. You try doing a show like that at age 16.

I don't see her as being put in an ackward position at all.
She is just her job, which she is paid to do.  In fact, I don't
think she is an any "position" at all.  

>  So when I first saw the episode, it made me feel so badly for
>her. I know that most of the community around her would recognize
>this challenge she took as an artistic one (that is to say, the
>acting community). But what about the world outside? Would she
>view other men's infatuations differently because "they may have
>seen the nude portrait episode"? I am crying for help because I
>do not wish for her to see my infatuation negatively.

I hate to come across as being really snappy, but I am in a 
rotten mood so here goes.  It is just a tv show, for petes sake.
And she did not pose nude for the painting.  Jesse imagined
what she would look like naked.  Don't you remember her shock
when she saw the painting?  "But Jesse, I'm naked."  Don't you
think she would have remembered posing nude for him and not 
been so shocked???  

>  And was that her in the portrait, or a double? No way could
>that have been her. At most, it could have been her head imposed
>upon an adult model's body. I had never heard of anyone under
>age 18 displayed in a nude portrait before.

First of all, it was a painting not her standing in front of
the camara naked.  There is a HUGE difference.  Also, when I saw 
the episode, I don't recall seeing the whole painting, just the 
face.  I could be wrong here, but if I am not, someone has a very 
active imagination.    :-)

>  If you got sexually excited finding this message in the list
>of messages, *FUCK YOU*. That is exactly what I don't want my
>Kellie-Bellie to hear about, and I don't want to be associated
>with your kind. That is all. The episode in question is next 
>Sunday night at 7, I do believe.

My opinion is that Kellie Martin probably wouldn't mind being
admired for her body (whether or not that was her body in the
portrait) but if I were her, I would sure be bothered by
someone calling me "my Kellie-Bellie."  :-)


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From: hefferman@ccs1.bbn.com (Matt Hefferman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: "I know a great Chardonnay..."
Keywords: commercials, hated
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:08:10 GMT
Reply-To: hefferman@ccs1.bbn.com
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Newport, RI
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

leela@wpi.WPI.EDU (Leela Keshavan) writes:
>appleyar@brtph72.bnr.ca (Doug Appleyard P215) writes:
>>
>>I hate these Gallo yuppie bonding commercials!  They beg for
>>the Energizer bunny treatment.  Oh yeah, and what the heck is 
>>"Blanc De Noir"?  "White of black"? AAAAIIIIGH!!
>
>Thank GOD... I thought I was the only one out there who hated this
>commercial.. I hate when the woman in the commercial says 'Blanc De Noir'
>with a pseudo-french accent... 

Does anyone know who the other woman in that commerical is? She's shown up
in a lot of commericals, like the first "there's just *something* about
ice cream" commercial, a deodorant ad (Sure?), an underwear ad, and now the
wine commercial. Expiring minds want to know. :-)

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From: synth@deepthought.unm.edu (Synth F. Oberheim)
Subject: Re: Fate of the Plucky Duck Show?
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 21:38:02 GMT
Organization: SynthMedia Productions Ltd -- Now Appearing Nightly With DON HO
Distribution: na


ca831@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven John Peterson) writes:

Steven> Although, the new Warner Bros. cartoons fail to live up to the
Steven> great cartoons of its past (IMHO), I found The Plucky Duck
Steven> Show to come close (at times).  In many ways I found it even
Steven> funnier than Tiny Toons.

How do you figure?  TPDS was nothing more than repackaged TTA shorts!


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From: sally@remarque.berkeley.edu (S. A. Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: 'Da Bears
Date: 8 Jan 1993 20:13:00 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu



WGN Channel 9 Chicago, is part of the basic cable program 
her in Sacramento, CA.

Is SNL going to be a new episode this week? When I heard about
Ditka my first thought was "I can't wait to see what SNL does
about this."  


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Spudnix Peel
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From: lyndap@Novell.COM (Lynda Peterson)
Subject: QL: Time change on USA
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Distribution: USA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:06:48 GMT

Am I missing something here (in Utah), or did USA change the time it  
started showing QL? 

Did we already discuss this? (If we did, sorry for repeat discussion.)

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