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From: kennys@terapin.com (Kenny Sequeira)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Top Ten
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:33:21 PST
Organization: BBS

The Top Ten Reasons Marc Barrett Has To Enlighten Us With His Insightful 
Posts.


10.  Since he enrolled at Iowa State, they have yet to win a football
     game.

9.   He's mad because, Dan Barrett killed him in scene 1 of his
     stage play. 

8.   He has Bill Gates posters plastered all over his bedroom wall.

7.   When Marc was young he was stuffed in a GARBAGE can.

6.   He is secretly related to Jerry Shekhel.

5.   His Mom used to beat him with a CLIPBOARD when he was bad.

4.   He is Irving Gould's illegitimate son.

3.   He is a marketing genius, sought after by every computer
     manufacture in the world.

2.   From all the work he has done developing Amiga software, he
     knows all.


                         The number one reason 

                            Drum Roll Please


1.  Marc Barrett is a alias, his real name is John Skulley.


kennys@terapin.com
From: fheitkamp@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Move
Date: 26 Jan 93 06:21:00 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

In article <C1DpK8.680@utstat.toronto.edu>, philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes:
> In article <1993Jan24.183645.21702@usl.edu> das9674@ucs.usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
> 
> [ ]
>>
>>Well, IBM's PS/2 keyboards are really nice.  Too bad IBM doesn't make a 
>>non-PS/2 version of them... ie,they only fit in PS/2s.
> 
> Lexmark, which makes them, will sell you a keyboard for a clone (i.e. a real
> true keyboard). Phone them up.

	We are not talking a spongy, sticky keyboard but a good quality one.
	Which flavor is Lexmark?
>  
> Philip McDunnough
> University of Toronto
> philip@utstat.toronto.edu
Fred Heitkamp, ** Not an organization **

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From: eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen)
Subject: Re: CBM Announces Price Cuts on A4000/A1200
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 18:17:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.162343.14030@fcom.cc.utah.edu>, carl@jordan.utah.edu (Carl W Howard) writes:

 > BTW, I agree that harnessing energy from the sun is the ultimate goal for an
 > energy source, but for now nuclear power is one of the most environmentally
 > safe major sources of energy available today.

Gee, that's GREAT!  Maybe YOU'd like to have nuclear waste dumped in YOUR back
yard, so all us misguided morons can be freed from our cancer and radiation-
sickness paranoias.

 >              Carl W. Howard    email-> carl@mines.utah.edu

-Eyvind (felling pretty DAMN lucky Norway doesn't use nuclear power)

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From: mueller@cs.ubc.ca (Stephan Mueller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS-DOS
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:27:40 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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In article <1993Jan21.140640.2141@msus1.msus.edu> martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU writes:
>In article <1jkvsvINN9jn@cobra.cs.ubc.ca>, mueller@cs.ubc.ca (Stephan Mueller) writes (about deleting nested directories):
>>True.  A couple of things to note, however:
>>  1) this deficiency is easy to fix with third
>>	 party programs.  If you need it, I'll uuencode
>>	 and mail you a <5K program called deldir to do
>>	 this.
>>  2) Windows NT's delete command has an option to
>>	 delete recursively.
>
>Thats right up there w/ "Yea OS4.0 has a driver for AGA so it not a problem"

Not exactly.  I wasn't suggesting it's not a problem.  1) is a
workaround for what (by the existence of a workaround) must be a
problem. 2) is more an indication of future help:  Given that NT's
delete command supports subdirectories, perhaps DOS 6.0 will feature
it as well.

>If it's not in the stores, it'n not a soultion.

Well, I doubt you'll find a PD undelete program in any store, but if
you mean 'available to the public' then isn't that a solution?

If you want Windows NT, call your local Microsoft office with credit
card in hand, and ask for the Windows NT Beta SDK.  You'll have software
in your hands within a week.  Maybe not in stores, but mail order
should be good enough to qualify as a solution.

stephan(picking nits);
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From: zarthac@bradley.edu (Matt Simmons)
Subject: Re: CBM Announces Price Cuts on A4000/A1200dir
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 10:16:14 GMT
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Ian Kennedy (iank@microsoft.com) wrote:
: In article <1993Jan22.110215.6729@desire.wright.edu> jdemers@desire.wright.edu writes:
: P.S. they also cause respiratory disease, cancer, smog and
: global warming. (to be debated).
The fact that global warming, aka the "greenhouse effect" doesn't exist/is not
happening notwithstanding...

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There is also the fact that one generally wants to MAKE MONEY off products one
develops, not give them away to twerpy prepubescent drips who wouldn't pay for
software if it came out of the monitor and blew them. - Marc Wandschneider
From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: CBM Announces Price Cuts on A4000/A1200dir
Date: 24 Jan 1993 23:52:48 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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The existence of global warming is currently unknown.  If it were
possible to say that it was wrong that simply, then global warming
wouldn't be an issue, would it?

Obviously, people do think it exists.  Obviously, enough people think
that it exists that a great majority of society knows what it is, and
has formed some kind of an opinion on it.

One cannot "write off" global warming without knowing more.  If you'd
like to go ahead and say it's not true, that's just fine, but you run
the risk of playing the fool.

Greg

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From: 177wardell@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: MAC, PC or Amiga?
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:57:37 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1993Jan22.122719.14811@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>, trevore@vast.unsw.edu.au (Trevor Elbourne (Supr. Hell) BE) writes:
> 
> 
> 	One of the thing that impress me most about the Amiga is how well
> it emulates a MAC. You love the features of the the Amiga and the mac.
> You still have an A3000, Amax will be the best buy you will ever make.
> As long as you don't want color your fine. So comeing back to what's so good
> about the Amiga. It runs mac software at near 100% compatibility. something
> a Quadra can't say. Oh a question for Mac people. I say Xmas lemmings on a 
> Mac IIci and it was SO SLOW my old A500 literaly blows it away. I think
> the mac does too much of the thinking for you. A while ago I wanted to 
> unbinhex a file and the name of the file would not appear in the requester
> of the decompressing program because the file creator had been altered !!!
> If it was a command line I could force it. I had to use some tools to HEX edit
> it to get around it. On all counts I'd go for and Amiga 4000 with scsi, and 
> Amax. Roumor has it that colour can be expected. There is another Emulator
> by the name Emplant that opens a screen and runs the mac in pralell. But
> this one is a bit flaky at the moment. It is constantly improving though
> and should be very practical by the end of this year. Along with a scsi
> Amiga4000 you have a Quadra at a price that would freak anyone. You will still
> have your Amiga though so you wont feal bad and your bos wont fire you,
> or is that an IBM add :-)
> 
> 	Regards George
> 

	I'm a PC user and owner but I like Amigas a lot too.  I always
tell customers who want to buy a mac to get an Amiga.  It is cheaper,
does more and can emulate the mac excellently.

					-Brad



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From: jerry@msi.com (Jerry Shekhel)
Subject: Re: Move
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:25:54 GMT
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Skip Sauls (skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu) wrote:
: >
: >Really?  So how come I can use "cd .." to up a directory level on both DOS
: >and UNIX, but not on an Amiga?  Who's doing things backwards here?
:
: You can use cd .. to go up a level on the Amiga by means of a simple
: script and an alias:
:
: [script/alias deleted]
:

OK, but that only fixes the cd command.  What about the others?  Also, on
UNIX I use "cd /" to change to the root directory, and the same command
does something different on the Amiga.  See, just 'cause it's different don't
mean it's bad.

#ifdef SARCASM
Let's see now.  UNIX and AmigaOS use "/" for the directory separator, but DOS
uses "\", so DOS is braindead.  On the other hand, UNIX and DOS use ".." for
the parent directory, but AmigaOS uses "/", so AmigaOS is braindead.  On the
third hand, the command for renaming files is "rename" on both AmigaOS and
DOS, but "mv" on UNIX, so UNIX is braindead.
#endif

Let's see if Skip can take this bashing to a new level of absurdity!

:
: Skip Sauls, Amiga Advocate
:
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From: bmccnnll@unix1.tcd.ie (Barry McConnell)
Subject: Re: CU Amiga (was Re: amiga a1200.....
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 12:22:17 GMT

In <1993Jan25.035429.11209@seas.gwu.edu> gerald@seas.gwu.edu (Gerald G. Washington) writes:

>What is this B5000 accelerator for the A500?  Who is the manufacturer?

Solid State Leisure. I have their B5000-40, which is a 40MHz 68030 for
an A2000's CPU slot, with space for 32MB of 70ns SIMMs (I only have 8Mb ;-(

The B5000-25/33 are slower '030s, with less memory space, but they fit in
an A500/A2000's 68000 socket, like the CSA MMR.

The A5000-16 is a dirt-cheap '020 board (with space for 4MB of RAM and an
FPU).

All cards come (well, *will* come when they get round to it...) with 
DMAfix v2.0, my "commercial" version of the little program to greatly
speed up HD access to/from 32-bit memory.

>Finally, how can I get all of this stuff in the states?!

Phone them for an information pack: +44 933 650677. Bear in mind their
prices are UK-based, and so may be quite high for people in the US. The
'020 card with 1MB RAM (and an FPU I think) is 200 UK pounds.

Barry.
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From: davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (David Meiklejohn)
Subject: Re: Move
Organization: Qld Dept Primary Industries
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 10:12:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.224928.11924@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> jerry@msi.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
>Michael Grom (gromyko@sputnik.rhein-main.de) wrote:
>
>: No, no! Do not excuse the MS-DOS "Shell": it's Simply BS.
>
>Are you trying to imply the AmigaDOS is pristine in its "clean" form?
>What a laugh.

"Pristine"?  No, it's not perfect - nothing suits everybody.  But, here's
the main point from all this :

Out of the box, the Amiga comes with a very reasonable, usefull, and useable
shell.  It's something Commodore have worked to improve substantially over the
years, such that it now incorporates many of the ideas from older PD shells and
the ARP project.  I find it worth using, and I come from a Unix background,
where I'm used to ksh, csh and tcsh.

On the other hand, all MSDOS and Windows users get out of the box is
command.com.  It has serious deficiencies which can only be rectified by
using third party utilities or replacement shells (both of which you've
suggested as alternatives).  The naive DOS/Windows user is not aware of these
things, and will waste a lot of time doing something as basic as deleting a
directory.  The naive Amiga already has the tools to make effective use of
his computer, without resorting to third parties.  While, the more advanced
Amiga users can make use of third party products to further improve what is
already a quality environment.


>| JERRY J. SHEKHEL  | Molecular Simulations Inc. | Time just fades the pages |


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 - PC's, Unix, and networks by day, Amigas by night...
Currently residing in Mareeba, Far North Queensland, Australia
From: fheitkamp@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Move
Date: 27 Jan 93 12:36:51 GMT
Organization: Wright State University

In article <1993Jan26.153419.23402@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, jerry@msi.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
> David Meiklejohn (davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au) wrote:
> 
> Does the Amiga come with a word processor?  Terminal program?  Card filer?
> All these things come with Windows (which is bundled with most PC's these
> days).

	The terminal program was almost unusable in my eyes.  It blocked
	most of the function keys that may be used for saving files etc.
	on main frames.  There may be a a way to change this, but I gave
	up after a few minutes.


	I find the Windows way of doing things very frustrating,  I'd
	much rather use the Amiga.  (Windows really has a lot of dersirable
	features, though.)  An example of this frustration is trying to 
	print using Excel.  My printer connection was not working so I
	thought I'd check the configuration while I was waiting.  Nope can't
	do that, the machines busy doing something else.  Is it because
	the programmer had to use all those int86() instructions?  Can't
	do nothing else until we get back.


	A constant point PC users like to make is the availability of 
	software.  Well I'm sorry, but just as there are many good PC
	programs, there is a *lot* of crap overpriced software.  One 
	reason there is not as much software for the Amiga might be that
	Amiga users would just not be impressed by the vast majority of
	those PC apps.  I know I'm not.

	(anticipated Jerry response if he reads this:  Oh your're not 
	impressed huh?  Well what makes you God then? Mister know it all. 
	Prove it.)

	PCs have definately brought computing to the masses and increased
	competition etc.  But that ain't all there is IMHO. Go look. Really.
 
> 
> :
> : David Meiklejohn (davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: das9674@ucs.usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: Re: Move
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:11:02 GMT

In article <10593@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com> peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany) writes:
>In article <1993Jan23.214147.13439@usl.edu> das9674@ucs.usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>>
>>Actually, do AMigans only ahve one CTRL key?  
>
>Well, yes, but it's not sooo necessary here, see? We now have menus and
>"Amiga"-hotkeys and function keys, so we don't need that many ^K^C stuff 
>like in (ugh) WordStar.

Actually, I was think of that god-awful EMACS editor available for Amigans.
It uses LOTS of CTRL-combiniations. (ugh)

>>>Not for several years. My A3000 with 2.04 never crashes. 
>
>Mine does sometimes. It's when *I* did something silly, my very fault.
>
>>That's nice.  So Amigans have storage protection?  
>
>No. But thanks to the programming and debugging tools that have evolved 
>over the years there are less and less applications that are really buggy. 
>If the world is perfect, you don't need a police and do save money! :-)

:-)

>Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel  // E-Mail to \\  Only my personal opinions...
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From: jerry@cs.mcgill.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Move
Date: 22 Jan 93 04:51:43 GMT
Organization: SOCS - McGill University, Montreal, Canada

In article <1993Jan21.052858.23136@usl.edu> das9674@ucs.usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.230815.6107@ra.msstate.edu> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan20.221523.7781@usl.edu> das9674@ucs.usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>>>Does the Amiga CLI have 'move', as in moving files, directories wholly? 
>>
>>Yes, it is called rename.  I don't like the standard Amiga names for 
>
>You mean something called' rename' can move a directory back a level, keeping
>the same name?  In UNIX, you use 'mv' to rename a file, in AMigaDOS you
>use 'rename' to MOVE a file?  Odd...

In the next release of the OS they're going to change its name from 
'rename' to 'ConfuseDanStephensonWithThisOddThing.'  :-)

>>utilities like copy, move, delete, etc., so I've got them aliased to
>>the UNIX-like cp, mv, rm, etc. commands.  All of the Clones I have at
>>work also have UNIX-like utils, so moving between machines is that
>>much simpler.
>
>Where CAN I get really nice MS-DOS UNIX-like utils?  Have an batch file that
>does dir/w for ls doens't cut it...

I had a bunch of these but I don't have the 386/33 that I had them on here.
I'll have to try and scare them up again...  The usual cp, mv, etc.

>>That brings up something else: Does OS/2 still use the retard slash for
>>directories or have the OS folks come to their senses?  That one mistake
>>by Microsoft is an even bigger blunder than MS-DOS itself...
>
>You mean '\'?  as in C:\Games\Falcon3 and C:\Games\StuntIsl ?

I think this is a historical glitch left over from the choice to use the
forward '/' to specify command line options... the first version of DOS
never support subdirectories, so when they were added the backslash was
the most sensible option since the other one was spoken for.

>Does it matter, Skip?

Not that much, I guess...  forward slashes are more common.  Then again
the Amiga's "cd /" causing a move upward of one directory level is a bit
weird, considering that a lot of other systems use that to refer to return-
ing to the root directory.  Different streaks for different streaks, what-
ever flips your frog, and all that.

>>Skip Sauls, Amiga Advocate who hates using the retard slash
>>skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu
>
>Why?
>-- 
>Dan Stephenson   das9674@usl.edu


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From: joe@cbmvax.commodore.com (Joe O'Hara - Product Assurance)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: CBM mention on 12/11/92 Computer Chronicles
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:28:07 GMT
Reply-To: joe@cbmvax.commodore.com (Joe O'Hara - Product Assurance)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1993Jan27.161320.2430@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> jerry@msi.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
>Joe O'Hara - Product Assurance (joe@cbmvax.commodore.com) wrote:
>:
>: BTW, I own an S3 card. Guess how many drivers are
>: available for it? Besides windows, there are specialty drivers for AutoCad,
>: WordPerfect 4.x, and a couple of other DOS apps. No OS/2 or Unix drivers.
>:
>
>OS/2 drivers are usually available separately, and there's no need for Unix
>drivers, as several commercial X11 implementations support S3 accelerators
>directly.

I suggest you spend some time in the OS/2 newsgroups and pay some attention
to the discussions about video drivers. Drivers are definitely not _usually_
available; some cards have drivers for 1.x, very few are available for 2.x.
As far as I know, only Orchid has released a driver for their S3 card. It
just happens that I'm keenly interested in this issue from a personal
perspective.

You may be correct about the X11 implementations. There is a significant
performance difference on most S3 cards between using generic S3 drivers
and card-specific ones. It may be that the X11 users are not getting the
real benefit of their cards if they are limited to generic drivers.
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From: jerry@msi.com (Jerry Shekhel)
Subject: Re: CBM mention on 12/11/92 Computer Chronicles
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:23:16 GMT
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Matthew Simmons (zarthac@bradley.edu) wrote:
: : :
: : Running out of things to say, Matthew?
:
: Call me Matthew again, and you won't be able to say anything anymore...
:

If you don't want people to call you Matthew, reconfigure your site so that
whatever name you like appears in the article header.  Until then, your name
*is* Matthew :-P
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