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From: trifid@agora.rain.com (Roadster Racewerks)
Subject: Tau cross
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 20:10:13 GMT



Hi Francis!  :-)

Yes indeed, there are tau crosses outside the SCA, and so-called. (I suppose
because that's what they *are*... ;->

In fact, the arms of the "bad" knight at the joust on this week's episode of
Covington Cross included a tau cross with another charge over it that I
couldn't make out partly because the overlying charge was the same tincture
(gules) as the cross. (Looked spikey, probably some sort of bird.)

Now I know a potboiler like Covington Cross is no place to look for examples
of good armory, but I was intrigued (because their other stuff was pretty
standard, and because I wondered if the fighters were from Regia Anglorum or
some such). Is it acceptable under real-world heraldic jurisdictions to have
for instance, or, a tau cross gules, a falcon rising overall, gules? (It had
to have been something like that...a bird, not displayed...)

Curiosity will kill me yet...  

Suze
trifid@agora.rain.com

Xref: sparky rec.heraldry:254 rec.org.sca:13958 comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d:3608 comp.os.msdos.misc:5428
From: polowin@chem.queensu.ca (Joel Polowin)
Newsgroups: rec.heraldry,rec.org.sca,comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d,comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Text file search utility (e.g. S.C.A. armorial)
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:05:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: knot.BvEqH3.98E
Organization: Dept. of Chemistry, Queen's University

I've written a multiple-term text search utility.  It's functionally
similar to 'fgrep' but allows simultaneous checking for up to fifteen
search terms -- each independently to be present/absent, and case 
sensitive/insensitive; each can be 'or'-linked to preceding term(s).
I originally wrote it for searching the Society for Creative Anachronism's
file of heraldic devices -- such searching involves applying a lot of
separate conditions -- but have found it useful for a variety of other
tasks as well.  I'm making it freely available for public use.

'filter' is available in two forms for anonymous ftp from ftp.ccs.queensu.ca
(130.15.126.54), in pub/qu-pub/.  'filter12.c.Z' is the compressed
source code for version 1.2; ARJ-compressed 'filter12.arj' contains
the source code and the DOS executable compiled with Borland's Turbo C++.
The source is pretty plain C and should work with any ANSI-standard C
at the very least.

On my PC at home (40MHz 386dx), 'filter' chews through the 1.9MB S.C.A.
armorial file (available from meadow.stanford.edu, rainbow.cse.nau.edu, 
and bransle.ucs.mun.edu), searching for entries containing the strings
"aardvark", "winged pig", or "wombat", and which are not badges, in
about 37 seconds.  It's made armorial-searching a LOT faster and easier.
And because it reads a file line by line (or reads from standard input)
there are no size limitations other than the 300-character line length
limit (trivially changed with a #DEFINE in the source code).

Documentation is internal: any error in syntax causes 'filter' to print
a brief error message and a concise description of proper syntax plus
examples.

Joel Polowin
polowin@silicon.chem.queensu.ca, polowin@chem.queensu.ca,
 polowinj@qucdn.queensu.ca
Newsgroups: rec.heraldry
From: brandon@gauss.math.brown.edu (Joshua Brandon)
Subject: Re: Spanish Heraldry
Organization: Brown University Math Department
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 02:03:49 GMT

Tuomas Viljanen writes:

|> Yes. It is quartered; 1: Castilla (gules, a three-towered castle or), 2: Leon
|> (argent, a lion rampant, purpure), 3: Azure, five anchors per fess 2+1+2, 4:
|> A map of an archipelago, light blue and and brown tones; on base the arms of
|> Ch. Columbus before ennoblement: chief gules, or damasced, a bend azure.
                                                    ^^^^^^^^
                                                    what's that?

Joshua Brandon	    Brown Math Department	  brandon@gauss.math.brown.edu
   "It's free association time here at Incoherent Central!"
YAZ/socrates
Newsgroups: rec.heraldry
From: velde2@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Velde Francois)
Subject: Re: Sp. heraldry & Columbus
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:35:41 GMT

In article <1992Oct06.171718.30708@watson.ibm.com> mittle@siena.watson.ibm.com (Josh Mittleman) writes:
>> But what is "sinople"?  It seems to be translating the Spanish "verde",
>> which sounds like it ought to be green....
>
>Yup.  "Sinople" is standard French blazonry for "green".  It is rarely used
>in modern English blazonry, but shows up occasionally in medieval blazonry
>in place of "vert".
>

Well, excuse my French :-)

You will have to bear with me whenever I use English heraldic terms:
I am more familiar with the French vocabulary, and I am slowly learning.
From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Newsgroups: rec.running
Subject: Re: Weights and Running?
Date: 4 Oct 92 17:20:51 GMT
Organization: Western Washington University

whare@ac.dal.ca writes:

>	Why does it seem that runners past the 400 meter mark
>have really weak upper bodies? I know there is that weight to 
>power type ratio but I've read so many articles on world class
>runners who don't weight train. One guy even said the only way 
>to run faster is to run more. Peeves me a lot.

Some LD runners weight train, some don't.   I don't think you can
get very big if you are simultaneously draining your body with
training for serious endurance running.   Your body has finite 
capacity to adapt to the various requirements put on it.

You have to choose, I guess.

The longer the race is, the more that extra 5 or 10 lbs of muscle
mass adds up.  What might be a benefit in a sprint could be a
useless drag after 26 miles.

JD
From: rmcgover@phakt.usc.edu (Rob McGovern)
Newsgroups: rec.running
Subject: Re: Weights and Running?
Date: 4 Oct 1992 23:57:54 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu
From: tuttle@crl.dec.com (Mark R. Tuttle)
Newsgroups: rec.running
Subject: Any Thanksgiving Day races in Philadelphia?
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:09:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: DEC Cambridge Research Lab

Are there any 5K to 10K races in Philadelphia over the Thanksgiving holiday?
I will be staying on Locust Street near the Curtis Institute of Music
with only public transportation available, if that matters at all.

Thanks,
Mark

Mark R. Tuttle                                 tuttle@crl.dec.com
DEC Cambridge Research Lab                     (617) 621-6635    
Newsgroups: rec.running
From: speckman@peanuts.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Heike Speckmann)
Subject: Re: No Marathon Legs?
Organization: "Lehrstuhl fuer Technische Informatik, Uni Tuebingen"
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 09:14:55 GMT

>It IS possible to run a marathon on 15 miles per week if you are
>careful to get enough variety in your training.  If anyone's interested,
>I'll post my training schedule.

That's my opinion too. When I was 16, I ran a marathon in about 3:28 and 
train about 40 km a week. After that I ran more and got an injury. Now I am
training about 30 km a week and additionally I bike and swim and feel fine.
But Matt I am very interested to your training schedule. Please post or email.

Heike
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Newsgroups: rec.running
From: page@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Thomas Page)
Subject: Re: racing pace
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 16:03:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.233556.17538@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, lorenzo@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Eric J. Lorenzo) writes:
|> I was wondering how most experinced racers set their pace during a race.  I've 
|> been running for a while now, but have just started to run in races.  I ran
|> my first 5k on Labor Day and psyched myself out because of all the other 
|> runners; I started too fast and was dead at the end.
|> 

There is no substitute for experience.  You will run some where you go out too
fast and flame out.  You will do others where you finish with too much left and
you know you could have gone faster.  You will do others where you ran an even
pace all the way through, almost died in the finish shoot, and know that you gave
your best on that day.  For the beginner, you are probably best erring on the
side of having too much left as you can always crank it up in that last mile.
On the other hand, unless you have tried going a little faster than you are
really capable of, you will never approach your limits.  Racing is a form of
play, so play with it.
Tom
From: karl@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Karl Watanabe)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:54:03 GMT
Subject: Re: No Marathon Legs?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: rec.running

In rec.running, wilding@cs.utexas.edu (Matthew Wilding) writes:

>   I'm no expert. But I trained for a first marathon most of last year,
> had a very similar experience, and apparently found a solution.  Once
> I got past 14 miles, my leg muscles would tighten and I'd have to stop
> soon after.  This happened about four times during mile 14, and I
> worried I'd never get past this barrier.

This sounds exactly like what happens to me.  I have no problem running
14 miles.  In fact, each time I run 14 miles I go faster and faster.
However, during those long runs (at a much slower pace) those leg
muscles tighter up and I struggle to 16 and fight for 18.

>   In desperation, I asked my girlfriend to follow me on a bicycle and
> hand me a cup of Shaklee juice every few miles.

I asked my wife to follow me on a bike, but she didn't like the idea
of following for 3 hours.  I will have to think of something else.

>   I hope this helps.  Good Luck.

thanks, your suggestion sounds like my solution.

Karl Watanabe
Newsgroups: rec.running
From: ggg@rho.megatek.com (Gary G. Godwin)
Subject: Corn on toe
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:24:20 GMT


I keep getting a corn on the outside of the outermost toe.  Has anyone else
had this problem?  Let me explain.

About a year ago, I had some running shoes that I believe may have
been to narrow (I have a wide foot).  My feet didn't really feel cramped
in them, but I began to notice soreness in the toe as I increased
my weekly mileage.  Then I noticed a callous beginning to form, or at least
I thought it was a callous because I had never had a corn before and I
thought only really old people got corns (I'm 31 years old).  I went to a
drug store and bought some liquid corn remover and after 2 weeks that corn
was gone - that toe was really sore though during those 2 weeks.  I decided
to buy some new running shoes, the Saucony Jazz 3000, and I thought they
felt plenty comfortable.  Well, I noticed the soreness in the toe beginning
again, so I rushed out and bought the new Saucony Jazz 4000 that has a boxed
toe with even more room then the 3000.... but it hasn't helped.  My corn is
back and I'm getting this sinking suspicion that after I remove it again,
it's just going to come back.

I read a suggestion from one of the running magazines that if you get
blisters try putting Vaseline Petroleum Jelly on it to help reduce the
friction.  I've been doing this for the past 2 months, but ....

I talked to a saleman at Foot Locker today, and he suggested that I buy
a pair of the EE width New Balance shoes.  Is a another new pair of shoes
going to really help?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks in advance,
Gary Godwin
From: bleitch@bcarh407.bnr.ca (Brendan Leitch)
Newsgroups: rec.running
Subject: Extreme Shin Pain
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:40:21 GMT
Reply-To: bleitch@bcarh407.bnr.ca (Brendan Leitch)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

I have a very severe pain in my left shin and do not know what I have done.
I am quite familiar with Shin Splints and am fairly sure that it is not shin 
splints.

Background:
===========
 - I had dull like shin splint pain for about a week, after 3 miles on a run
   this Monday and after a slight 200 metre downhill, it became much more severe
 - After that run and for the rest of the evening, I could barely walk on it
 - I did the RICE formula for all of Monday evening
 - after RICE on Monday evening, Tuesday morning felt fine
 - the 800 metre walk from my car to the office Tuesday morning gave me medium discomfort
 - I did not run Tuesday, but swam. The breast stroke and freestyle kick both gave
   me medium discomfort
 - This morning(Wednesday), the 800 metre walk from my car to the office gave me 
   even more discomfort

Running Background:
===================
 - ~60 miles/week - training for Marine Corps Marathon(Washington Oct 25th)
                  - goal of 2:50
 - one medium speed work/week, one long run a week (18-24miles)
 - 36:30 10k PB
 - shoes - Asics Gel Exult/Nike Air Structure/Reebok Ventilators
 - medium over-pronator
 - relatively inflexible person, but have been working diligently to ease the problem
 - 5'10"/155lbs

Symptoms:
=========
 - the extension and contraction of the the foot is painfull when it bothers me
 - walking is not painfull until more than about 600 metres at which point I want
   to sit down

Does anyone know what this is and what I should do about it.

PLEASE HELP ME - someone ?????

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From: MBS4@psuvm.psu.edu (Michelle Schott)
Newsgroups: rec.running
Subject: Motiv Sports phone number?
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:34:56 GMT
 <1992Oct2.031423.25951@dickens.com> <1992Oct2.124913.26590@linus.mitre.org>
Distribution: usa
Organization: Penn State University

Does anyone have the phone number of Motiv Sports?  They don't have an 800
number.  I would like to order their baby jogger.  Has anyone else ordered one?
How do you like it?  Do they take all major credit cards?  Thanks.
                                                    Michelle Schott
From: gingerk@informix.com (Ginger Kelly)
Newsgroups: rec.running
Subject: Painful Heels
Date: 3 Oct 92 02:08:33 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.
Originator: gingerk@infmx

Hi everyone,

I've been reading this group for several months now, but have just now
figured out how to post to it!

My problem is my feet, in particular the heels.  I've been running for
about 12 years now, more regularly over the past two years.  I usually
average about 20 miles per week during the triathlon season, but am now
slowly increasing mileage in preparation for a marathon in December.  
I generally run about 50% of my weekly mileage on the road, with the other
50% on trails and on a track.  I wear Saucony Sovereign's and buy new
ones every 4-6 months.  I'm about 5'5", 130 - not overweight but a heavy
foot striker.

The problem I have is that my feet, primarily the heels, have been getting
sorer and sorer over the past 3 months.  It started as an annoyance that 
disappeared after 5 minutes or so, but it has gotten to be very painful.
In fact, periodically throughout the day I will get sharp, excrutiating
pains that last for 5 seconds or so, for no apparent reason. I tried laying
off for 3-4 days at a time, but I didn't notice any improvement from the
layoff, so I resumed training.  

Has anyone else had this experience?  I would appreciate any advice, suggestions
anyone might have.  I'd really like do this marathon in December!

(Oh yes, the pain is on the sole of my feet, not the back of my heels.)

Thanks in advance -
 
Ginger
From: rns@npg-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (Rick Schubert)
Newsgroups: rec.running
Subject: Re: racing pace
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:56:01 GMT
Organization: NCR Corp., Network Products - San Diego

In <1992Oct1.160321.18159@cs.ucla.edu> page@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Thomas Page) writes:

>                                      You will do others where you ran an even
>pace all the way through, almost died in the finish shoot
                                                     ^^^^^
I think that would happen no matter what your pace in a race with a finish
shoot.  I'm staying away from that race!

-- Rick Schubert (rick.schubert@SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM)
From: rm0b@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ROGELIO MACIAS-ORDONEZ)
Newsgroups: rec.running
Subject: Injury risk using a treadmill?
Date: 27 Sep 92 21:52:33 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Hi,
    I am a new reader of rec.running and new also in a country where weather
won't let you run outside for several days. This is why I have used a
treadmill machine for the first time in my life. But I have been feeling some
strange pain I hadn't had before on the outer side of my left knee.
    Does anyone know if ther is something to be aware of when using this
machines?

Thank You

Rogelio Macias-Ordonez
Lehigh University
Internet  rm0b@Lehigh.EDU
From: tad10@ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Dickinson)
Newsgroups: rec.running
Subject: Race Pace
Date: 4 Oct 92 15:00:21 GMT
Reply-To: tad10@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Dickinson)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

>I was wondering how most experienced racers set their pace during a race.  
>I've been running for a while now, but have just started to run in races.  
>I ran my first 5k on Labor Day and psyched myself out because of all the other 
>runners; I started too fast and was dead at the end.

>I have a 5 miler coming Saturday, and hope to keep a more level head this time.
>Do most runners keep a constant pace throughout the whole race?  I tend to
>take it easier towards the beginning of my runs then gradually speed up. Any
>tips out there that might help me run a better race?

There is a bullet-proof way to maintain a steady pace during a race - wear
a heart rate monitor.  I've been wearing one for 6 months now and wouldn't
run without it. 

Your heart rate is the best indicator of what is going on while you run and
can be depended on regardless of how fast the other runners run.
At my current level of conditioning, 150 beats per minute (bpm) is an 8:20
pace and 160 bpm is 7:30 pace - no question.  I go out and watch
the display, slow up if my HR is high and speed up if it is low; it is that
simple.  Temperature is the only variable (other than your physical condition)
that makes it at all challenging.  Heat can affect your HR more than anything
else, but it is easy to compensate.  In fact, without a monitor, you will
probably overtrain when it is hot without intending to.

Basically, you figure out your maximum heart rate, your anaerobic threshold 
and a training threshold and train/race to those numbers and everything
is as predictable as the sunrise.  It takes all the guesswork out of 
pacing and makes your training and racing as effective as possible.  I
never unintentionally push beyond my training target (85% maximum HR) and
always keep my race pace just below the anaerobic threshold (until I'm
ready to turn on the afterburners and kick to the finish) so I don't
run outa gas before I'm ready.  

When I train within my aerobic pace, I feel absolutely terrific 
afterwards.  When I push it (either running intervals or just increasing 
my speed during my long run) I feel like I always did before I trained 
with the HR monitor.  I know when I'm up in the anaerobic zone 
without guessing and can train/race exactly where I want to.  

You can buy the cheapest unit for $119 (Colorado Cyclist) or you
can spend $800 for one that stores everything about your training
session in memory and uploads it to a PC where you can analyze to 
your heart's content (pun intended).  I use the cheap one and love
it.  I will use it during the Houston Marathon in January and am
quite confident I will hit my target time instead of "THE WALL".

Terry



..............................................................
Terry Dickinson    tad10@juts.ccc.amdahl.com      713.850.8828
Amdahl Corporation                              Houston, Texas
From: wilding@cs.utexas.edu (Matthew Wilding)
Newsgroups: rec.running
Subject: Re: No Marathon Legs?
Date: 30 Sep 1992 10:17:40 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Karl Watanabe writes:

> My problem is I am running out of legs after 16 miles. [...] How
> about some advice from the experts?

  I'm no expert. But I trained for a first marathon most of last year,
had a very similar experience, and apparently found a solution.  Once
I got past 14 miles, my leg muscles would tighten and I'd have to stop
soon after.  This happened about four times during mile 14, and I
worried I'd never get past this barrier.

  In desperation, I asked my girlfriend to follow me on a bicycle and
hand me a cup of Shaklee juice every few miles. This is a sugar and
salt drink that I suppose is like exceed or gatorade.  The problem
went away immediately and did not return.  The only down-side to
drinking this stuff was it made me slightly nauseated toward the end
of the run. I started drinking it during the first half of the run and
water during the second half, and this seemed to help.

  Why this appears to work, I don't know.  However, the difference I
felt in my long runs when I drank this concoction was dramatic.

  I hope this helps.  Good Luck.

From: smay@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Scott Smay)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:05:31 GMT
Subject: Help find Adidas Torsion Response
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID
Newsgroups: rec.running

Can anyone point me to a source of the discontinued Adidas Torsion Response?
I'm talking about the original Response with the polyurethane, not the Resp[onseClass with all eva. 

Thanks for any responses (pun intended).

scott
From: bschmidt@maybeck.mti.sgi.com (Bill Schmidt)
Newsgroups: rec.running
Subject: Re: Diagnosing my runnig style (was Re: Desperately Seeking Shoes)
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:50:52 GMT
Reply-To: bschmidt@maybeck.mti.sgi.com (Bill Schmidt)
Distribution: usa
Organization: sgi


  To my knowledge there are only 3 different "strides" that concern shoes
and they have to do with how your foot strikes the ground.  There is a heel
strike, a mid-foot strike and a forefoot strike.  Of course, there is the
additional variation of what your foot does AFTER it strikes, overpronate,
neutral, and oversupinate.  To determine what your strike pattern is (and
hence your stride) just look at the soles of your current shoes.   If the
are heavily worn at the heel with light wear elsewhere, you are a heel
striker, if worn evenly front to back a midfoot striker, and if worn heavily
under the ball of the foot a forefoot striker.   To determine the stability
of your foot after strike, put your existing shoes on a table in front of
you and look at them from the rear.  If the heel counter is vertical you
are neutral, if the counter points to the inside (arch side) of the shoe
you overpronate, and if pointing towards the outside you over supinate.
That plus your mileage, speed and body weight are what you need to narrow
down the search for shoes, then pick the one that fits the best.