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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 09:00:34 EST
From:         "Marlene Kemski, Univ. of Windsor" <MARLENE@UCC.UWINDSOR.CA>
Subject:      RIVD Flag
Comments: To: Notis-L Distribution List <NOTIS-L@VM.TCS.TULANE.EDU>

To those who gave suggestions on how to resolve our concern with no longer
receiving a warning message when the system reassigns the due date to the
patron expiration date:  Thank you!



We looked into the code and looked AGAIN at RIDV flag.  We opted to remove
the flag rather than change the code (lesser of the two evils).



When we first implemented Circ the RIDV flag did not function as documented.
We built our manual procedures around it.  When RIDV flag was fixed in 5.0.2
I went to the Library with expectations of changing our manual procedures.
After much discussion and reviewing various alternatives we agreed it best
not to change our manual procedures at this time.

The RIDV flag or lack  of warning message is not the real problem.
Basically we do not produce DATE DUE slips.
The library staff produces a lot of screen prints (eg for patron has,
item records, abend messages, etc.) and therefore we keep the 8.5x11 continuous
paper in our system printer.   We do not use special forms for receipts.
We no longer have pockets in the books in which to put date due slips, so they
would be loose.  We believe patrons will lose them and get them confused
with other date due slips from other days.  The date stamps we use are more
cost efficient than slips.  Date stamp form, attached to the inside back
cover, can hold 20 entries which would be equivalent to 20 slips.  Also when
the book is returned, "RETURNED" is stamped over the due date.  This is our
double check to make sure books have been properly returned by staff.

If the date
has been stamped "RETURNED" but the book itself has not been discharged
it is believed that staff "forgot" to discharge.  The patron is not charged
any overdues.  The disadvantage of using date stamps is that staff
need to know what loan period  each item for each patron category is required.
We have such few loan periods that this is not viewed as a great disadvantage.


I'd be very interested in hearing what other sites do?  Do you use the date
due slip?  Why / why not?  Does anyone else use Date stamps?  If you use
special forms, do you provide screen prints? If so how?




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* Marlene Kemski                      *                                *
* Systems Analyst                     *   Releases:                    *
* Computing Services                  *              NOTIS LMS 5.0.2,  *
* University of Windsor               *              GTO       3.0,    *
*                                     *              CICS      1.7,    *
* Voice:  (519) 253-4232 x.2737       *              MVS/SP            *
* Fax  :  (519) 973-7083              *                                *
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From: KSIMMONS@UKANVM.BITNET (kendall)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.notis-l
Subject: Re: Grateful Steers
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:10:37 GMT
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So, Rusty, you avoided getting arrested again.  Congrats.  As far as words
being spoken over an open can of Iron City beer...of course they are, as long
as you don't inhale or hold an open flame next to the can.

Kendall  (who will bring some GOOD local K.C. and Lawrence beer if you really
dare make it to Ithaca at Christmas time.)
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:26:02 EDT
From:         timothy@ASA.UGL.LIB.UMICH.EDU
Subject:      Re: Location Based Catalogs
Comments: To: NOTIS-L@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU
              Stephens" at Oct 12, 92 10:24 am

Michael Stephens writes:
>
> I am truely amazed that NSI would write the program so that the filter file
> must be read each time a item is found.  Couldn't the pertinent filter
> parameters be saved in a temporary memory location for the duration of the
> search.  I learned a long time ago that memory is cheap and I/O is expensive
> when it comes to execution times, both for batch and for online programs.
> If Tim's explaination of how location based catalogs work is correct, then
> they will not be implemented in production here until the design is fixed.
> I expect that the reason it is not much utilized at the University of
> Michigan is its poor response time.

Well, probably the main reason the feature hasn't been used much yet is that
it hasn't been well publicized yet--not many patrons are aware of it, as
evidenced by a small number of SET CAT commands recorded on the OPAC log.

Also, depending on the size of the filter file, there may be benefits
from putting the filter file in an LSR pool.  Ours is in a pool, and I
do get some lookasides, but I haven't tuned it yet.  I'll post any information
I gather on this.  I'm not real optimistic; the file is pretty big, and it's
all random direct reads.

The design issue is a tough one--what do you do, put the locations for a
record in the MHIX record itself?  Aside from the increase in size of an
already large file, and the processing complexities involved with holdings
updates, you're SOL with the KWB indexes.  I certainly don't have the answer.

Timothy Prettyman
Library Systems Office		313-764-0412
University of Michigan		INTERNET:  timothy_prettyman@um.cc.umich.edu
Ann Arbor, MI  48109-1185	BITNET:  USERLM5C@UMICHUM
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 08:18:26 EDT
From:         "Michael S. Montgomery" <MICHAEL@PUCC.BITNET>
Subject:      .260. or .300. in OPAC

As we prepare to make the NOTIS OPAC available to our university community,
we have decided after much debate initially to index for public keyword
searching the 260 (imprint) field, but not the 300 (physical description).
Our Implementation Team would appreciate hearing stories of joy and/or
sorrow from NOTIS customers with experience with either.  Please reply to:

Michael Montgomery
General/Humanities Reference    or   michael@pucc.bitnet
Princeton Univ. Libraries            michael@pucc.princeton.edu
One Washington Rd.
Princeton, NJ  08544-2098
From: VB7R0007@SMUVM1.BITNET (Michael J. Stephens)
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Subject: Journal 4 Logged Datasets
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:02:18 GMT
Organization: Southern Methodist University
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After sitting in on Barbara Baughman's excellent session on disaster
recovery I have been reviewing our handling of Journal 4.  Basically,
we haven't been.  So, now we are going to start running LB965JC each time
our CICS region comes down (daily).  Looking at the FCT I find a number of
datasets that have the LOG=YES parameter that I wonder if they really
need to be logged.  They are LigSTNX, LigITMX, LigACTX, LigPACX, and
LigPATX.  The FCT we are using is the same that is delivered by NSI.  Does
anyone know any reason we cannot turn logging off for these datasets?

A related question:  The LB965 job has from and to dates in a parm.  The
documentation is pretty vague about this, but we seem to be able to run
the job with the FROM date = MM-DD-YY and the TO date = a date in the
future.  I would like to be able to move the program into the CICS startup
deck, but this parm is preventing it.  Is there any way to avoid using
the parm since we just want to back up all of both extents?  Does anyone
have any more good info about this job?  Thanks in advance for all the
great help I am going to receive.

Michael J. Stephens, Tech1
Sr. Systems Analyst II           *  Phone:    (214) 692-3453
Computer & Information Services  *  FAX:      (214) 692-3449
Southern Methodist University    *  Bitnet:   vb7r0007@smuvm1
Dallas, Tx. 75275-0262           *  Internet: vb7r0007@vm.cis.smu.edu
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Organization: Purdue University Libraries
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 09:38:28 EST
From:         Alan Alexander-Manifold <ALANAM@PURCCVM.BITNET>
Subject: CHAT: BSR Theme Song

Here is the newly proclaimed theme song for the annual Bum Steer Roast,
first heard last Friday night at the Third BSR.  For a recording of me
singing this song, send $5000 to me at the address below.


I'm Not Gonna Let It Bother Me Tonight
Alan Alexander-Manifold, 10/9/1992
(to tune of same name by Atlanta Rhythm Section)


I logged on the system this morning
And looked over yesterday's stats
The system's one big bottleneck
What can I pull out of my hat

To give me some better response time
Make my system a fast one
Eating more resources all the time
Each minute could be my last one

But I'm not gonna let it bother me tonight
I'm not gonna let it bother me tonight
Tomorrow I might roll us back to 4.5
But I won't let it bother me tonight

Every new version's a nightmare
I struggle to keep them in sync
I just keep hopping from one to another
I don't even have time to think

But I'm not gonna let it bother me tonight
I'm not gonna let it bother me tonight
My region is thrashing--may soon give up the fight
But I will not let it bother me tonight -- no, I'm not

I'm not gonna let it bother me tonight
Been working more than four years and I still don't have it right
But I will not let it bother me tonight

Lord, lord, NOTIS
Gives me nothing but trouble
But I've done all I can do today
So bartender pour me a double, right now!

I'm not gonna let it bother me tonight
I'm not gonna let it bother me tonight
The way we stick with NOTIS, you can see we're not too bright
But I won't let it bother me tonight

I'm not gonna let it bother me tonight
I'm not gonna let it bother me tonight
I'll drink with Leigh and Michael till I'm higher than a kite
But I will not let it bother me tonight

                                                         \
       --Alan Alexander-Manifold               THe Online Resource
         Systems Implementation Manager        TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
         Information Technology Department       T         //
         Purdue University Libraries             T  H H  OOO  RRR
         West Lafayette, Indiana   47907         T  HHH//O O  RRR
         (317) 494-2857    FAX: 494-9007         T  H/H  OOO  R R
         alanam@purccvm          (BITNET)           \\
         alanam@vm.cc.purdue.edu (Internet)           \
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 09:56:00 EDT
From:         GHARVEY@WITTENBG.BITNET
Subject:      2 questions

Fellow users:

I have two unrelated needs.

1.   I am looking for a TSR program that will allow me full use
     of a PC via terminal access (keyboard and monitor) through
     the serial port.  I have two applications for this setup: 1)
     remote access from an observatory to a PC (safe) in a room
     below; 2) remote access from a lab to a PC in an adjacent
     office.

2.   I am reviewing course or classroom scheduling programs that
     run on a PC.  I need to handle 3000 students, 300
     instructors, and 300 rooms.  I need the ability to lock
     rooms and/or instructors to specific classes and/or to
     specific instructors(team teaching) and/or to specific
     times.  Please forward the name and source of any program
     that I might consider.

Thanks for the forthcoming advice or direction.

Gene Harvey
     internet: gharvey@wittenberg.edu
     BITNET: GHARVEY@WITTENBG.BITNET
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 11:08:42 -0600
From:         Jack Thornton <Jack_Thornton@EXTERNALAFF.BAYLOR.EDU>
Subject:      CUMREC'93 - Hotels & Airlines

For your planning, listed below you will find information about
Hotels and Airlines for CUMREC'93 hosted by Baylor University
in San Antonio, Texas May 9-12, 1993:

Conference Headquarters Hotel - Marriott Rivercenter Hotel
101 Bowie Street, San Antonio, Texas 78205 (512-223-1000)
Rates - Single $130.00 / Double $149.00
The Marriott Rivercenter Hotel is connected to the RC Mall

Over Flow Hotel - Menger Hotel
204 Alamo Plaza, San Antonio, Texas 78205 (512-223-4361)
Rates - Single $102.00 / Double $112.00
The Menger Hotel is connected to the Rivercenter Mall

Over Flow Hotel - The Crockett Hotel
320 Bonham St., San Antonio, Texas 78205 (512-225-6500)
Rates - Single/Double $84.00
THE CROCKETT HOTEL WILL HONOR STATE OF TEXAS PER DIEM
RATES OF $55.00 Single/$74.00 Double.
The Crockett Hotel is across the street from the RC Mall

American Airlines is the official carrier for CUMREC '93
To make reservations, call 1-800-443-1790 and ask for
Star #S13Z3RJ

 E-Mail address is CUMREC-93@Baylor.CCIS.EDU

Jack Thornton                                 Gary Blackmon

817-755-l921                                817-755-2711
FAX -- 817-755-2021                    FAX -- 817-755-2716
                                                  Co-Chair, CUMREC '93
             Co-Chair, CUMREC '93
From: BOTEAM@CLEMSON.BITNET
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Subject: CASE Tools
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:14:00 GMT
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Are there any universities out there currently using a CASE tool in
support of software development?  If so, please send a response to
RLM@CLEMSON, my personal BITNET userid.  I'll compile a summary of
the responses and share the information with everyone on the list.

Clemson University is using the KnowledgeWare CASE tool in an R&D
environment.  One project involves using the planning and analysis
modules (front-end CASE) to assist with a strategic planning effort
(for information systems) that's underway.  However, a decision has
not yet been made concerning using a CASE tool to support specific
application development projects in my area.

I would be very interested in what other schools are doing in regards
to using CASE tools (front-end, back-end or both).

Richard L. McCall
Systems Development Manager
Administrative Programming Services
Clemson University
Clemson, SC  29634-2805
BITNET Userid: RLM@CLEMSON.EDU
FAX: 803-656-0122  Office: 803-656-3336
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Date:         Sat, 10 Oct 1992 11:02:08 MDT
Comments:     Resent-From: Jim Standen <626021@ucdasvm1.admin.ucalgary.ca>
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From:         Jim Standen <626021@UCDASVM1.ADMIN.UCALGARY.CA>
Subject:      *** Downsizing ***

FROM: Jim Standen
      Manager, General Applications
      Administrative Systems, University of Calgary
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
To: 626021  --UCDASVM1 Mr. J. Standen

FROM: Jim Standen
      Manager, General Applications
      Administrative Systems, University of Calgary
SUBJECT: *** Downsizing ***

    I am attending the Downsizing Expo in Toronto, Canada from October 19 to
October 21.  I would like to arrange an informal discussion session for
representatives from Universities/Secondary Institutions on their unique
downsizing issues.  To that extent I have arranged a room to be available
Monday 19th at 6 PM.  The location of the room is yet to be decided but will
be posted at the conference registration area.

   I am inviting any of you who are attending the conference to participate
in this session.  If you have any thoughts on the session, please contact me
prior to Friday, October 16th.
From: MooreJ@CC.SDSTATE.EDU
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Date: 14 Oct 92 18:47:00 GMT
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>This last summer there was some talk on this list about
>creating a new list for Admission office issues.
>If the list was established, would someone please post the
>name and location.

I looked in the list of lists for the word ADMISSION and only found one,
local, list.  There are a few steps to go through to create a list.

1).  Find a willing listowner (preferably someone who actually works with
admissions who has SOME computer interest/expertise--the admissions
background is, IMHO, more important than the computer background).

2).  Find a willing site.  It's preferable (not necessary) that this site be
close to the person who steps forward in #1.  I would strongly suggest a
revised (Eric Thomas) listserv site, but there are alternatives.  I would be
willing to help some in this search.

3).  Physically set up the list.  This will need to be done by the
administrator of the site.

4).  Get a critical mass to start the list going.  This can be done before or
after step #2.  In other words, it may be easier to find a site after you can
demonstrate that there are 50-100 people ready to sign up for it.  On the
other side of the coin it's better to wait until the site is determined to
'advertise' the new list if possible.  Once the list is ready to go,
'advertise' it to CUMREC-L@NDSUVM1, NEW-LIST@NDSUVM1 and
REGISTRAR-L@CORNELL.EDU.  I don't think reaching critical mass would be a
problem.

5).  Enjoy the wonders of another list.  These things take on a life of their
own.  I'd be glad to discuss some of the finer points with the person who
decides to 'own' the list.  Some lists become very busy--I signed up for
REGISTRAR-L for a few weeks and was amazed at the traffic.  Some lists never
become busy enough to be useful.  You never know until you try it.

Joe Moore, CUMREC-L listowner
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 09:31:05 EDT
From:         Trevor Garland <trevor@UMS1.LAN.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      Message for Joe Moore re CUMEC-L logs

 Sorry to put this out as a general message but I've tried every published
address for you Joe and everyone gets rejected.

  I am looking for the thread on programmer's access to production data
and I find that LOG9209 goes only til Sept. 15 and LOG9210 starts at Oct.
1. Is there any way  can find the rest of Sept.'s mesages?

    Thanks for your support...

 << Trevor Garland             McGill University Information Systems >>
 << Manager, PC Applications      845 Sherbrooke St. W.              >>
 << (514) 398-7410                Montreal, Quebec                   >>
 << TREVOR@UMS1.LAN.MCGILL.CA     Canada     H3A 2T5                 >>
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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1992 09:14:22 CDT
From:         CSWMW@ECNUXA.BITNET
Subject:      Newspaper article indexing

We are looking for a solution to indexing newspaper articles from the campus
and community newpapers. The news personnel often need to refer back to old
articles and now use a manual recording method. I would be very
grateful if anyone could point us in the right direction. If there are other
lists to which I should post let me know.

We can currently support a system which runs in any of the following
environments.

MVS/ESA with CICS, DATACOM/DB, VSAM, etc.
RS/6000 AIX
PC DOS or OS/2 standalone or LAN attached on a Token Ring network

Much thanks for your help.


                                Bill Witsman
             Director Information Systems and Technical Support
                   Computer and Telecommunication Services
                         Eastern Illinois University
                            Charleston, Il 61920
                                217-581-3227
                       Internet: cswmw@ux1.cts.eiu.edu
                           Bitnet:   cswmw@ecnuxa
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 11:00:25 -0400
From:         "M. Lewis Temares, (305)284-3515" <MENDEL@UMIAMI.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: CUMREC'93 - Hotels & Airlines

Are those the real conference room rates--130/149 per night?
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:15:17 -0400
From:         Mike Duncan <duncan@MCMAIL.CIS.MCMASTER.CA>
Subject:      Re: 2 questions

On Wed, 7 Oct 1992, GHARVEY@WITTENBG.BITNET wrote:

> Fellow users:
>
> I have two unrelated needs.
>
> 1.   I am looking for a TSR program that will allow me full use
>      of a PC via terminal access (keyboard and monitor) through
>      the serial port.  I have two applications for this setup: 1)
>      remote access from an observatory to a PC (safe) in a room
>      below; 2) remote access from a lab to a PC in an adjacent
>      office.
>
> 2.   I am reviewing course or classroom scheduling programs that
>      run on a PC.  I need to handle 3000 students, 300
>      instructors, and 300 rooms.  I need the ability to lock
>      rooms and/or instructors to specific classes and/or to
>      specific instructors(team teaching) and/or to specific
>      times.  Please forward the name and source of any program
>      that I might consider.

I have seen documentation on a PC package that is call TPH-3 produced by
INFOSILEM that produces master time tables.  The address is

                Infosilem,
		500 rue des Guerets,
		Sainte-Adele, Quebec,
		Canada.  J0R 1L0
		Tel 514 229 5664

The package runs on DOS 4.1 or greater, prefers a 386 machine, and is used
by institutions in Quebec with enrolments of more than 6,500 students to
produce a master timetable.


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Computing and Information Services,
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University,                          Phone: 416-525-9140  ext 3865
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
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From: JHTOPPIN@OWUCOMCN.BITNET
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Subject: Status of new list
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:30:00 GMT
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Original_To:  BITNET%"cumrec-l@ndsuvm1"

This last summer there was some talk on this list about
creating a new list for Admission office issues.
If the list was established, would someone please post the
name and location.

Thanks in advance.

John Topping
Ohio Wesleyan University

JHTOPPIN@OWUCOMCN  or
JHTOPPIN@CC.OWU.EDU