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From: pvr@argo.rice.edu (PVR Narasimha Rao)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Re: Actors and singers (was Re: "Anand" and Kishore Kumar )
Date: 20 Aug 1992 06:30:12 GMT
Organization: Rice University


In article <1992Aug19.202227.3654@eng.umd.edu>, vinchhi@eng.umd.edu (Chetan K. Vinchhi) writes:


|> In article <52047@dime.cs.umass.edu>, prabhu@unix1.cs.umass.edu (rajesh prabhu) writes:

|> > I believe Manna Dey sang for Raj Kapoor as well, though I can;t think of
|> >any songs right now. 


|> 	1. Lagaa chunri mein ("Dil hi to hai", MD Roshan )
|> 	2. Aajaa sanam madhur (with Lata) ("Chori-chori", MD Shankar-Jaikishen ?)
|> 	3. Yeh raat bheegi-bheegi (with Lata) ("Shree 420", MD Shankar-Jaikishen)
                                                ~~~~~~~~~

                                           Should be "Chori-chori".


|> 	4. Dil kaa haal sune dilwalaa  ( ---do--- )
|> 	5. MuD-muD ke na dekh (with Asha and Chorus) ( ---do--- )
|> 
|> 	amongst others. 


To add a few more songs to the list (Manna singing for RK):

6. Pyaar huaa ikraar huaa hai, pyaar se phir kyon dartaa hai dil ("Shree 420")
7. Ye bhai, zara dekhke chalo, aage bhi nahin peeche bhi ("Mera naam joker")
8. Thair zaraa o' jaanewaale, baabu mister gore kaale ("Boot polish")


[Picturization of "pyaar huaa..." and "yeh raat bheegi..." is somewhat similar.
Probably, that's the cause of the confusion]


In "ye bhai...", Manna was outstanding for Raj Kapoor. IMHO, no other singer
(even Mukesh) could've got that song so nice. His voice perfectly suited RK.
In the middle of the song, RK speaks and laughs here and there. If the singer
was someone else, the difference in the voice would've been very clear. But,
with Manna, the transitions between the song and RK's words were very smooth.


--------
PVR Narasimha Rao
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: dharam@wpi.WPI.EDU (Dharmendra Khanolkar)
Subject: Lyrics : Surma Mera Nirala..
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:28:37 GMT





Hi,

Following are the lyrics of the evergreen song by KK. I am posting thes on
the net as a lot of guys asked for it....


soorma mera nirala, aakhon mein jisne dala
jeevan hua ujala, hai koi nazarwalla
hai koi nazarwalla, la la la la
Ho le le surma lehe lo..
Ho le le surma lehe lo, ho do, ti di di di dey ee, tu do do do dey ee

yeh waqt a jamana, jab na lage suhana
phir mere paas aana, qhadim hoon mein purana
Rasta jo kuch najar hai, samzega kya asar hai
aandhe ko kya khabar hai, 
hai koi nazarwalla, hai koi nazarwalla, hai koi nazarwalla

soorma mera nirala, aakhon mein jisne dala
jeevan hua ujala, hai koi nazarwalla
hai koi nazarwalla, la la la la
Ho le le surma lehe lo..
Ho le le surma lehe lo, ho do, ti di di di dey ee, tu do do do dey ee

dushman jise sataye, isko laga ke jaye
jake najar miilaye, dhoka kabhi na khaye
boodha ho ya ho baccha, kyon najar ka kaccha
rakhta hoon maal saccha, hai koi najarwalla

soorma mera nirala, aakhon mein jisne dala
jeevan hua ujala, hai koi nazarwalla
hai koi nazarwalla, la la la la
Ho le le surma lehe lo..
Ho le le surma lehe lo, ho do, ti di di di dey ee, tu do do do dey ee

kissa abhi hai kalka, roothi thi ghar ki malika
soorma idhar se zhalka, gussa udhar se halka
soonte hoon mere bhai, pheero to eek kalai
kiimet hai teen paai, hai koi najarwalla

Corrections welcome.. especially the "yodling" part of the BOSS...!!

Have fun..

Au Revoir....!!

Dharmendra 
(dharam@wpi.wpi.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: No.of Playback's per Movie
From: <GXS11@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 13:22:08 EDT
Organization: Penn State University

Hi!
    Most hindi movies usually have 4-5 playback singers for the songs.
   But Director Yash Chopra seems to like having a lot of variety for
   his songs. His last two movies "Chandni" and "Lamhe" had a lot of
   lead playback singers...and a few of them unconventional ones too.
    Though I dont remember all the names here are a few of the voices
   rarely heard in hindi cinema:
         Sri Devi  - "Chandni O Meri Chandni"
     Jolly Mukherjee- "Chandni O Meri Chandni"
    Pamela Singh    - "Mein Sasural Nahin Jaoongi.."
     and then there were songs by Lata, Suresh Wadelar, Nitin Mukesh etc etc

    Similarly Lamhe too had Hariharan sing one song, and Reshma I think, and
 couple of other non-mainstream singers.

   Does anyone know the record for Maximum no.of playback singers for a movie.

                                                          Gurmeet
From: axg4836@hertz.njit.edu (Animesh Y. Gandhi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Re: Hindi or Classical CD's
Date: 14 Aug 92 00:27:15 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Aug12.184556.13332@auto-trol.com> vijbal@auto-trol.com (Vijay Balasubramanian) writes:
>Kind people,
>
>Those who own Hindi or Classical CD's, I'd appreciate your comment(s).
>
>i) Are the recordings good enough to warrant the purchase of a CD. For
>instance, some master tape recordings may not be of high quality from which the
>CD is derived.
>
>ii) Are there CD houses like Columbia House for these or do we have to go to an
>international store to purchase them.
>
>Regards,
>Vijay

The Classical CD's are not good at all, since they are only Digitally
Processed. They have to much background hiss to them.

the Hindi Film CD's are quite good in sound quality and are usually in
AAD format ( analoguely recorded and transfered and digitally
transfered)
The Classical Music CD's are excellent.

Secondly, Columbia House does not carry internation CD's so you will
have to buy from a local Indian store or a distributor(like video
sound).

Hope that helps,

-Animesh
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: singh@cc.gatech.edu (Ranu Singh)
Subject: Re: QUIZ TIME - IX
Organization: College of Computing
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 21:39:34 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.003929.15395@athena.mit.edu> rgshenoi@athena.mit.edu (Rajesh G Shenoi) writes:
>Hello Janta,
>	Let us not tend to SCI'ness.  Let us live in internet harmony 
>considering that today is the independence day and this is a music group
>where harmony is of utmost importance. :-)
>
>	The next question I thought of is this: 
>
>What is common to these films?
	Let me guess now..
	They were debut films .
>
>	Dil tera deewana
		For the heroine.
>	humsafar
		For Vimi
>	mere humsafar
>	chalte chalte
		For the girl who played the heroine's younger sister(kim ?)
>	raaste pyaar ke
		For Leela Naidu. This film was based on a real incident 
		that caused a huge scandal in its day.
>
>have fun,
>MERA BHAARAT MAHAAN!   :-)
>Rajesh "Shendi" Shenoi :-)
>The perpetual smiler   :-)
>
>PPS: This is irrelevant, but did we get our independence on the 14th-15th 
>midnight or 15th-16th midnight?
	Try 14th-15th. Pakistan standard time is behind IST by an hour, which 
	explains why their Independence Day is on the 14th when both the 
	countries got independence at what was midnight of 14th-15th for
	India.


	-Ranu Singh
From: dhanda@skorpio.usask.ca (Sanjay Dhanda)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Re: Actors and singers (was Re: "Anand" and Kishore Kumar )
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:14:07 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada

In article <1992Aug19.202227.3654@eng.umd.edu>, vinchhi@eng.umd.edu (Chetan K. Vinchhi) writes:
|> 
|> In article <52047@dime.cs.umass.edu>, prabhu@unix1.cs.umass.edu (rajesh prabhu) writes:
|> >
|> > I believe Manna Dey sang for Raj Kapoor as well, though I can;t think of
|> >any songs right now. 
|> >
|> 
|> 	1. Lagaa chunri mein ("Dil hi to hai", MD Roshan )
|> 	2. Aajaa sanam madhur (with Lata) ("Chori-chori", MD Shankar-Jaikishen ?)
|> 	3. Yeh raat bheegi-bheegi (with Lata) ("Shree 420", MD Shankar-Jaikishen)


                                                 ^^^^^^^^^
This is from "Chori-Chori" too.


Sanjay


|>

 	4. Dil kaa haal sune dilwalaa  ( ---do--- )
|> 	5. MuD-muD ke na dekh (with Asha and Chorus) ( ---do--- )
|> 
|> 	amongst others. 
|> 
|> >  Staying on the topic of actors and playback singers, the movie "Abhimaan"
|> >with Amitabh Bachchan had at least three singers singing for him - Kishore
|> >Kumar, Mohd. Rafi and ??, which strikes me as being a little unusual.
|> >
|> 	Manhar sang "Lute koi man ka nagar..." with Lata.
|> 
|> >
|> >-- Rajesh
|> >
|> >
|> 	Chetan.		
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: vinchhi@eng.umd.edu (Chetan K. Vinchhi)
Subject: Re: O.P. Nayyar : his music.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 13:10:17 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Originator: vinchhi@coke.eng.umd.edu


In article <59651@mimsy.umd.edu>, preetham@chisti.umiacs.umd.edu (Preetham Gopalaswamy) writes:
>
>Anyone else wishing to comment on distinctive styles of other music directors !!!!
>

	Since you have brought up the topic, let me comment on Salil Choudhury's
	style. I am referring to the main tunes of his songs. The singers had
	to switch from very high notes to very low ones and vice versa. It is
	seen in a number of his most famous compositions. To cite a few examples,

	1. Dil (low) taDap (high)-taDap ke... (Madhumati)
	2. Jhulmi (low) sang (high) aankh laDi... (-do-)
	3. Mila hai (low) kisika (high) jhoom(low)ka(high)... (Parakh)
	4. Zin(low)dagi(high) khwaab hai... (Jaagte Raho)
	5. Jaago Mohan pyaare....choome nain tihaare(low) Jaago Mohan... (-do-)
	6. Maine tere liye......saaye churaaye(high) nashili yaa(low)doN(high) ne... (Anand)

	Comments, anyone??

>
>	

	Chetan.							Preetham Gopalaswamy
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: gopal@tamsun.tamu.edu
Subject: Re: Actors and singers (was Re: "Anand" and Kishore Kumar )
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 02:38:50 GMT

In article <52047@dime.cs.umass.edu> prabhu@unix1.cs.umass.edu (rajesh prabhu) writes:
> I believe Manna Dey sang for Raj Kapoor as well, though I can;t think of
>any songs right now. I remember reading somewhere that Mukesh actually
>sang more songs for Manoj Kumar than for Raj Kapoor - can anyone confirm/deny
>this ?


  Forgotten 'chori chori' ??????????


gopal
From: sguha@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Saumyen Guha)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Re: Actors and singers (was Re: "Anand" and Kishore Kumar )
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:25:18 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <1992Aug19.202333.25746@leland.Stanford.EDU> ravikane@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ravindra Shantaram Kane) writes:
>
>Did Aradhana also have three playback singers( for khanna) I am sure it
>had kk(sapnon ki rani, roop tera mastana) and I think it also had Rafi+
>someone else( I am referring to male playback singers here).
>Any response will be appreciated.
>Ravi

Well. Third one is SD Burman himself, singing,'Safal hogi teri Aradhana,
Kahe ko roye..'.
-Saumyen
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: parrikar@csn.org (Rajan Parrikar)
Subject: Re: Kishore songs on "Meaning of Life"...
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 20:23:46 GMT

In article <Bt54rx.DwB@rice.edu> arati@owlnet.rice.edu (Arati Suresh Deo) writes:

<deleted>

>Another song of this type -
>
>8]  Jeevan se na haar o jeenevaale, Baat meri too maan arre matvaale
>
>I think this is Kishore Kumar and Chorus.  Does anyone know which film 
>this song is from ?

It is from a Kishore film. Either Door Gagan ki Cha'on Mein or Door ka
Rahi. Could we have the lyrics of this one??

Rajan Parrikar
==============
email:parrikar@mimicad.colorado.edu

>
>-arati



Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: sbanwari@pdx167 (Sunil Banwari)
Subject: Re: LYRICS WANTED: OLD SONG
Organization: Intel Corp., Hillsboro, Oregon
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 19:30:36 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.185635.22968@access.usask.ca> dhanda@dvinci.USask.Ca (Sanjay Dhanda) writes:
>
>Hi,
>       I would appreciate if someone could identify the name of the
>movie of the song:
>
>        Bagon mein baharon mein ithlata gaata aaya koi...
>
>The music directors of this song are Shankar-Jaikishen.
>
>Can someone also post the lyrics ? Thanks.
>
>Sanjay 

The song is from the movie 'Chhoti bahen'. Can't recall
the lyrics tho'.
Sunil
-- 

Email address: sbanwari@ichips.intel.com | "Tis not enough that one
					 |  succeeds in life, one's
					 |  friends must fail"-Anon
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: sriram@IASTATE.EDU (Sriram Devanathan)
Subject: Lyrics wanted
Reply-To: sriram@IASTATE.EDU (Sriram Devanathan)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:02:14 GMT

Hi. Could someone post the lyrics of the following song?

Mera pyar bhi tu hai, yeh bahar bhi tu hai
Tu hi nazron mein jane tamanna, tu hi nazaron mein
. . . .

Thanks.
Sriram.
From: sbhattac@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Re: Kishore songs on "Meaning of Life"...
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:10:43 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Aug17.163833.28975@intelhf.hf.intel.com>, jasjit@hfglobe.intel.com (Jasjit Singh) writes:
> Of the various kinds of songs that Kishore has sung, my favorite are the
> ones about "life". He has dealt with various points of views about life-
> life as a mystery, life as a joyful experience, life as a cruel joke,
> life as a journey,... Here are some such songs. Can anyone add more to this
> list?
> 
> 1] Zindagi kaisi hai paheli hai.... (anand)

>    Kabhi Ye hasaye, Kabhi ye rulaye
This song is sung by Manna Dey and not Kishore.
MD:Salil Chowdhury

> 
> 2] Zindagi ka safar  hai ye kaisa safar .......(Safar)
>    Koi samjha nahi koi jana nahi
>
MD : Kalyanji Anandji
 
> 3] Zindagi ek safar hai suhana....
>    Yahan kal kya ho kisne jana
MD: Shankar-Jaikishen

> 
> 4] Ye jeevan hai, is jeevan ka (yehi hai)-3 rang roop....
>    Thore gam hain, thori khushiyan (yehi hai)-3 chaon dhoop
> 
MD:Laxmikant Pyarelal

> 5] Ik rasta hai zindagi jo tham gaye to kuch nahi...(Kala Pathar)
>    Ye kadam kisi mukam pe jo jam gaye to kuch nahi
> 
MD : Rajesh Roshan
> 6] Jeena kya aji pyar bina, jeevan ke yahi chaar dina...
>    Rupey paisey bina chal jaye magar, zindagi na chaley yaar bina
> 
>    (Is [6] sung by Kishore? Which film?)
>
I think it is sung by Kishore-Asha.but i am not sure of the MD.is it RD 
Bappi?? 
> 7] Mera jeevan kora kagaz kora hi reh gaya... (kora kagaz)
>    Jo likha tha ansuon ke sang beh gaya...
> 

MD:Kalyanji Anandji.
> All of these songs carry different messages - some of hope, some of 
> pain, some of indifference... Which one of these do you think (if any)
> gives a good definition of life ? Do you remember any other songs 
> that define life?
> 
> Does anyone know the music directors of the above songs?
> 
> 
> YAKK (Yet another Kishore Kumar) fan,
> -Jasjit
> 

Have fun...

Sandeepan Bhattacharya.
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: vinchhi@eng.umd.edu (Chetan K. Vinchhi)
Subject: Re: Actors and singers (was Re: "Anand" and Kishore Kumar )
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 17:49:15 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Originator: vinchhi@pepsi.eng.umd.edu


In article <1992Aug19.213509.28530@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>, rbhatnag@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Rajat Bhatnagar) writes:
>                  
>   This song was sung by Mukesh I believe.Could anybody post the lyrics .
>
	It WAS sung by mukesh. The words -

	Jis gali mein tera ghar na ho balmaa
	Us gali se humen to guzarna nahin
	Jo Dagar tere dwar pe jaati na ho 
	Us Dagar pe humen paanv rakhnaa nahin
	Jis gali...
	
	Zindagi mein kai rang-raliyaan sahi
	Har taraf muskarati yeh kaliyan sahi
	Khubsurat baharon ki galiyaan sahi
	Jis chaman mein tere pag mein kaanTe chubhe (2)
	Us chaman se humen phool chunana nahin
	Jis gali...

	Haan yeh rasmen yeh kasmen sabhi toD ke
	Tu chali aa chunar pyar ki oDh ke
	Ya chalaa jaoongaa mein yeh jag chhoD ke
	Jis jagah yaad teri sataane lage (2)
	Us jagah ek pal bhi Thehernaa nahin
	Jis gali...

	
	Any corrections ?? I don't know if there is one more stanza
	to this song. If so, could someone post the lyrics ?

>
>Rajat Bhatnagar
>-- 

	Ciao.
	Chetan
From: prabhu@unix1.cs.umass.edu (rajesh prabhu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Re: Kishore songs on "Meaning of Life"...
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:06:31 GMT
Reply-To: prabhu@unix1.cs.umass.edu (rajesh prabhu)
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

Hi folks,
  
      Changing the subject slightly, there was a compilation of Kishore
Kumar songs in a serious vein mostly from the late 70's and the 80's 
containing songs like "Rim-Zhim gire sawaan" ( movie ? Amitabh/Moushumi),
"Zindagi Ke Safar Mein Guzhar Jate Hain ..." ( Aap Ki Kasam ) and 
"Aane wala Pal jaane wala hain" (Gol Maal). 
	  Anyone remember the name of the album ? It used to be very popular
in our hostel. It would be nice if it were still in print and available.
If I remember right, many of them were scored by R.D. Burman and
non-classical ( Indian classical that is ) based.


-- Rajesh

	  

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Rajesh Prabhu   prabhu@cs.umass.edu
		
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
From: satrao@auto-trol.com (Jeet Rao)
Subject: Re: "Anand" and Kishore Kumar
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:19:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.194120.766@access.usask.ca> dhanda@skorpio.usask.ca (Sanjay Dhanda) writes:
>In article <92231.131125GXS11@psuvm.psu.edu>, <GXS11@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>|> Hi Filmi Music Gurus,
>|>                       Kishore Kumar was supposedly the voice of Rajesh Khanna.
>|> KK'ssong rendering definitely attributed to Rajesh Khanna's succesful career
>|> as a romantic hero. But then why is ther no KK number in "Anand". The movie
>|> has excellent songs picturised on Rajesh Khanna, ( Door kahin jab din dhal
>|> jaaye; zindagi, kaisi ye paheli hai; Maine tere liye hi saat rang ke sapne
>|> chunne) but non sung by Kishore Kumar. It seems so weird. Is Anand one of those
>|> rare success stories w/o the KK-RK combination or are there others too?
>|>   Any info regarding the matter will be appreciated.
>|>                                                 Thanks,
>|>                                                         Gurmeet
>
>
>Your observation is really keen. To my mind there is no other movie of
>Rajesh Khanna without songs by KK, just as there are no Raj Kapoor movies
>with songs by Mukesh. However, it will be interesting to see if someone
>can recall movies that feature one of these actors without the songs of
>KK/Mukesh.
>
>Sanjay.

Very few people have heard of it, but Rajesh and Sharmila starred in a movie
called MALIK, in which Mahendra Kapoor was the singsong voice of Rajesh. 
The sole KK song in that movie was picturized on Deven Verma

On the same note, the Raj Kapoor-Nargis-Dilip Kumar movie ANDAAZ had some
beauts by Mukesh (Jhoom jhoom ke naacho aaj), but they were all picturized
on DK. The sole song for RK was rendered by Rafi.

Much later, Raj Kapoor starred in Sanjay Khan's ABDULLAH. He had one song in it,sung by Manna Dey, owing chiefly to the fact that Mukesh was long then
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From: sguha@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Saumyen Guha)
Subject: Re: Kishore songs on "Meaning of Life"...
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:42:45 GMT

In article <51952@dime.cs.umass.edu> prabhu@unix1.cs.umass.edu (rajesh prabhu) writes:
>Hi folks,
>  
>      Changing the subject slightly, there was a compilation of Kishore
>Kumar songs in a serious vein mostly from the late 70's and the 80's 
>containing songs like "Rim-Zhim gire sawaan" ( movie ? Amitabh/Moushumi),
                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Movie: Manzil
MD: RD Burman
Lyric:???

-Saumyen

>-- Rajesh
From: axg4836@hertz.njit.edu (Animesh Y. Gandhi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Latest Hindi CD's
Date: 14 Aug 92 00:34:05 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

Hi Folks,
Are Roop Ki Rani Choran Ka Raja songs good?
and are there any other NEW Hindi Film CD's that any care to recommend?

BTW: Sapne Saajan Ke songs are good, I highly recommend it. Music is by
Nadeem Shravan.


-Animesh
From: mani@aix.Berkeley.EDU (Mani Varadarajan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Re: MDR
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:18:06
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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In-reply-to: appa@cbnewsk.cb.att.com's message of 18 Aug 92 17:37:06 GMT


Ravi Ramaswamy wrote in a previous article about MDR singing
elaborate niraval and swaram to Endaro Mahaanubaavulu.

>      I was under the impression that one is "not supposed to" indulge in
>   improvs while singing Pancharatna krithis. Indeed, I have not heard anyone
>   else attempting it. My personal opinion is that it is OK provided the full 
>   krithi is rendered first. Has this been discussed before?

I've heard about the same "rule" too.  However, we should note
that MDR wasn't one to stick to tradition when it came to
things like this, and he seemed to be more interested in the
pure melody and meaning.  In addition, I have heard many
singers, including such ultraorthodox musicians like B. Rajam
Iyer sing a little ragam before a Pancharatna Kirtana.

>      As an aside, musicians seem to prefer Arabhi and Sree and occasionally
>   Natai. I cannot recall the last time Gowla or Varali was sung in a concert.

I have heard of a recording by the Alathur Brothers which had a
rendering of the GouLa Kriti ("duDDuku gaLa"), but am I the
only one who thinks that the SrIrAgam and Arabhi ones are far
superior? I'm not particularly fond of GouLa itself as a raga;
VarALi is too long for a concert, (as I thought "JagadAnanda
kAraka" was too, but apparently people sing it).

Anyway, why do you think Tyagaraja chose these ragas in the
first place? Save VarALi, they aren't especially heavy ragas.
It would be interesting to surmise as to how these five ragas
got elevated to such a high stature.

Mani