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From: morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (Elmo the Stunt Elk)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Sandman -- Brief Lives 7
Date: 23 Jan 93 21:53:16 -0600
Organization: The Eekcidental Tourist
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conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:
> ross@BofA.com (Ross Lefstin) writes:
>> 2) The references to change are getting kind of heavy handed.  "Cooking
>> is one of the fine arts."  Art = Change = Destruction?
> 
> Art = Creation.  Destruction tries to distance himself from his realm,
> so he spends his time in Creative endeavours.  He's terrible at it,
> as you would expect from the anthropomorphic representation of "destruction".

	Reread what Destruction says about food.  Cooking *changes* raw
materials into comestibles; Change apparently falls within Destruction's
sphere.
-- 
"Once a boy becomes a man, he's a man all his life, but a woman is only
sexy 'til she becomes your wife."--Al Bundy
  
elmo (morrow@physics.rice.edu,morrow@fnal.fnal.gov)
From: jwlr@dali.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Squadron Supreme
Date: 23 Jan 93 18:55:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore) writes:

>This is close to what I had heard. In an interview with George Perez about
>a long-planned JLA-Avengers cross-over (a la the Teen Titans/X-Men one).
>It was all set to go, but DC pulled out. Rather than scrap the story, they
>created the Squadron Supereme. (How THAT got past DC, I don't know.)

As someone else already pointed out, the Squadron pre-dates the TT/XM team-up
by several years.

>I enjoyed the Squadron Supreme mini-series also. The graphic novel was
>also interesting. What I want to know is...

>...What happened to the Squadron Supreme appearances in QUASAR? Did they
>get back to their own world or not? and...

No. They are currently staying at Project Pegasus (I think as Security, or
some such).

>...Did the Squadron Supreme ever find out that Quagmire is still alive and
>well on Earth? (See the QUASAR teaser in Marvel Comics Presents...back
>when they did REAL teasers...)

No. But he did show up in Quasar to give Kayla a hard time just before the
Chief Examiner showed up and ... (sorry, I got carried away)

				jaMesa Willer
[any opinions above are copyrighted and may only be used with my permission]
From: pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Paul Michael Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: artists who draw themselves
Date: 21 Jan 93 06:35:14 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>>>Then there are artists who draw the writers -- in Violent Cases, the model
>>>for the drawing of the narrator was Neil Gaiman.
>
>>Dream looks like Neil Gaiman, too.
>
>Which depresses some of us becasue Dream is fictional and Neil is married
>and both are therefore unavailable.
>
>:(

Please.  Tell me that you are not serious.  Has Sandboyism risen to this level?

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From: silbrmnd@acf3.nyu.edu (Darkmage)
Subject: Re: MISC: Missed Deadlines
Organization: New York University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:43:10 GMT

Anyone know when the next Cages (#7?) is supposed to come out?  Or what
the schedule is?  (I shouldn't complain, I picked up all six books a
couple of months ago, so *I* haven't been waiting forever.  *8-)

			-Darkmage

--
"And whut-- ah say...  Whut are _YOU_ALL_ goin' t' be doin'?"

"I...?  I shall stand around looking... moody.  And feeling...
 sorry for myself."
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From: cweir@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Corey Weir)
Subject: Re: The New Titans
Summary: Here you go...
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 12:52:55 GMT

     Someone asked what has happened in The New Titans in the past
little while. Let me see...Well, let's start with the Titans Hunt
storyline, which saw the Titans captured by the Wildebeest while they
were having a reunion party, or something like that. All were captured
except for Nightwing, who didn't make it to the party. All across the
globe, people who were associated with the Titans were getting attacked
by more than just the one Wildebeest. Examples include Golden Eagle(who
got himself killed...) and Aqualad(almost, but not quite...). After much
general confusion, suspense, and the introduction of new characters like
Pantha and Phantasm, the leader of the Wildebeest was revealed to be
Jericho, their mute ally. It seems that he was possessed by the spirits
of the people of Azarath(see Teen Titans Issues...), to find them bodies
powerful enough to house them. In the end, Deathstroke the Terminator
wound up having to kill Jericho, his son. Various subplots, now ongoing,
have developed out of this storyline, such as the Titans lost their
Tower and are being held responsible for hundreds of millions of dollars
worth of property damage to the city. They are also wanted by the police
for this same reason. Now then, on to what I believe to be the most
accurate description of this series summed up in a storyline title,
Total Chaos. Here, a being called Lord Chaos is a god-powerful tyrant in
the future, and a man(bearing a HUGE resemblance to Dick Grayson) sends
back superbeings called Team Titans through time to kill Lord Chaos'
mother so he will never be born. Problem is Chaos' mother is Donna Troy.
This storyline wasn't really interesting but some strange things
occurred in it. Among these are that Donna realized her powers' full
potential and became a full-fledged goddess full a little while before
that whole too much power is a curse deal and she gave it up. Also, some
romantic twists came out of it. Mirage and Starfire competing for
Nightwing's attention, while Killowat secretly pines for Mirage. Also, I
think the biggest thing to come out of this Chaos is the possible return
of Terra. She came back with the Team Titans of the future, but is it
the origianl or is she a fake? Who knows anymore? Well, that should
bring you almost up to date on the Titans scene...Unless anybody else
feels that they can add to it, that is? Well then, go ahead. There must
be a few things I've left out, as I am doing this from memory...Down the
path I walk again, for I am...


                                                   Nomad

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From: carlf@panix.com (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: Iris Allen & LSH
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 04:00:06 GMT

In <cfLOv9m00WBL45Gnxr@andrew.cmu.edu> Gregg Bradley Baimel <gb1r+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>There've been some implications that Iris Allen (dead wife of the
>ex-Flash) has been seen in Legion.  Anyone out there care to give us
>non-Legion readers the scoop?

[sig missing]

  Sure.  It was established way back at the end of the Silver
Age Flash's series that his wife, Iris Allen, was really a time
traveller from the future.  When his series ended, he travelled
into the future to live happily ever after with her.  

  The Crisis on Infinite Earths forced Barry Allen out of
retirement.  He (apparently) died stopping the Anti-Monitor's
Really Big Nasty Dangerous Gun (tm).

  In the new Legion of Super-Heroes storyline, part of the point
of which seems to be to make the Legion's history more compatible
with the post-Crisis DC Universe, it has been established that
Iris Allen survived the Crisis, and is currently (that is, currently
in 2998) the editor of the Daily Planet.  Her twin children with 
Barry, Don and Dawn Allen, were executed by the Earth's government,
which was a puppet of the alien Dominators, although a grandchild
survives.

  Don and Dawn, in their pre-Crisis appearances, were descendants 
of the Flash, but not his children.
-- 
Carl Fink          carlf@panix.com, C.FINK4(GEnie), or CF427620I@LIUVAX.BITNET
  "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our
  inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter
  the state of facts and evidence"     --      John Adams
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From: jdelacr@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Jorge DeLaCruz)
Subject: Raza
Organization: The Great Beyond
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:05:19 GMT

   to he who wanted the information on Raza, his brother was Zenith (power
  unknown) of the Deathbird Shi'ar Guard, killed by Binary.  Sorry but he
  was in the X-Men Spotlight.

   The issue where everyone had Phoenix power, including Deathbird who became
   "Death" Phoenix and that dreaded creature "Bald" Phoenix (Professor X), 
   how they lost this power is forever unknown (and reconned).

					Jorge


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From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Subject: Re: LSH #41
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:46:48 GMT


In article <1993Jan21.032401.20991@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dave Van Domelen) writes:
>Luorno discovers
>her third body, but now neither Brainy will commit to which set is the original
>(cop out!),

This annoyed me incredibly.  The writers knew that fans had pointed out that
letting the younger Luornu split into three bodies plays havoc with the
"well, nobody knows which group is the clones" idea.

So they decide to mention it.  Without addressing it.  Brainy basically says
"well, the Dominators could have grown her another body, even if she's the
real one".  The problem isn't that the Dominators _can't_ do it.  The problem
is that it makes no sense.  (Especially if you consider that they must have
also cloned Luornu with only two bodies when they could have done three.)
--
"On the first day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Leftover Turkey!
On the second day after Christmas my truelove served to me...  Turkey Casserole
    that she made from Leftover Turkey.
[days 3-4 deleted] ...  Flaming Turkey Wings! ...
   -- Pizza Hut commercial (and M*tlu/A*gic bait)

Ken Arromdee (arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu, arromdee@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu)
From: Andrew.Brooks@launchpad.unc.edu (Andrew Brooks)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: DARK HORSE - Aliens - Colonial Marines #1 (SPOILERS)
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:30:32 GMT
Organization: UNC Office of Information Technology

In article <1k3vgjINNq06@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> chrismg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (christian gadeken) writes:
>Actually, my assumption has always been that the blood in the
>adult form is much less acid then that of the facehugger form.
>This explains why the Marines who got splattered in "Aliens"
>survived, and also makes sense biologically, since the acid
>blood is the facehugger's only real defense while it's attached.

That's quite an interesting theory, and is borne out by comparing
what the facehugger blood did to the Nostromo to what the full-grown
alien blood did to the APC in Aliens.  Of course, adult aliens also
contain a lot more blood than facehuggers, so it may even out in the end.

Zoz
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From: djyoung@carina.unm.edu (Danny Young)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Eternal Warrior/A&A question
Date: 22 Jan 1993 21:11:52 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
NNTP-Posting-Host: carina.unm.edu

I picked up Eternal Warrior #8 yesterday and I have a question.
BTW I thought it was an excellent comic. The way BWS showed us 
the differences between Gilad and Aram was great. But my question 
is were did their brother Ivar come from?  Is he a new character
or has he appeared in the Valiant universe somewhere else.

I kinda wonder what Valiant has planned for Ivar.  I think he is
interesting because of the time-travel thing the "kinky" brother 
of Aram does.


-- 
the Mighty Joe Young

djyoung@carina.unm.edu
From: intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Isaac N. Truder)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: PITT
Date: 25 Jan 93 11:36:26 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


 > Basically, Pitt was not perfect, but I certainly didn't think it
 > was bad  either.  IMO, it's better than 85% of what's out there,
 > yet few books get  ragged on quite as severely as poor, poor Pitt.

Yeah, I agree with you here.  We're TWO voices at least in all of the
net who don't understand this hatred of PITT.  I think everybody here's
just gotten a WEE bit jaded about comics.  

I showed my PITT #1 to a friend who doesn't read superhero comics.  He's
a big Howard Chaykin fan, read a lot of AMERICAN FLAGG! back in the
days, stuff like that.  He flipped through it, thought it seemed "Pretty
cool" (the standard hey-whatever, I don't know much about it but it
seems cool by me).  He's heard about all the Image flap from me, BTW,
and I'm no "Image Fan" that's for sure.  I also even pointed out some of
the things y'all have been joking about on r.a.c.m., like the New
York/Detroit thing.

So, he's seen the comic.  Then I tell him, "This comic costs you $1.95.
Your average Marvel comic, which are pretty much as you remember them
back from when you never used to buy them, will cost you anywhere from
$1.25 to $1.75 with little difference in quality between the price
ranges.  Which would you buy, given the option?"  Guess which one he
said?

So what's so bad about PITT, I ask you?  There's some funny shit about
it, and a few discrepancies here and there, sure.  But before you rail
off another assault, ask yourself the same question I asked my friend.
-- 
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From: reid@dsm.fordham.edu (Darin Reid)
Subject: Re: MISC:  Missed Deadlines
Organization: Fordham University/CLC, Division of Science and Math
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 08:00:21 GMT

How about _anything_ put out by Pure Imagination!  I'm still waiting
for the next issue of Pure Images...

And even though technically not a comic,  The Kirby Treasury (not the
full title [I think :-[) took a loooong time (years!) to come out.
--
Darin Reid

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From: apn207s@fermat.maths.monash.edu.au (Mr A Dempster)
Subject: Re: Sandman -- Brief Lives 7 (possible spoilers)
Organization: Monash University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:56:41 GMT

In article <1jumr1INNgmr@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, mikecap@wpi.WPI.EDU (Michael Vince Caprio Jr) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan24.052940.29838@midway.uchicago.edu> lf7z@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
|> 
|> -- 
|> "1. One Mind there is; but under it two principles contend.       
|>  2. The Mind lets in the light, then the dark, in interaction; so time is gen-
|>  erated.  At the end Mind awards victory to the light; time ceases and the Mind
|>  is complete."        - from _Tractates: Cryptica Scriptura_


WOW! You mean I'm not the only person on the planet that's read VALIS?

-- 

In order to remember your dreams, you must think of them as if they were 
little kittens. When you wake up in the morning, before you get out of bed,
Sit up and say, 
"Here, kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty.
Here, kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty.
Here, kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty.
Here, kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty.
Here, kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty."
                                                -King Missile
From: lawrence@ctron.com (Gary S. St. Lawrence)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: GREEN ARROW - 1972
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:06:12 GMT
Reply-To: lawrence@express.ctron.com (Gary S. St. Lawrence)
Organization: Guys With Really Huge ... Egos-R-Us!

Did anyone happen to notice in Green Arrow - 1972 The Golden Year, 
Mr. Grell's subtle hommage to Gary Larson's "The Far Side"?

In the senator/presidential candidate speech, as Ollie is mind-wandering
out onto the balcony, the dialogue the senator is spewing turns into
"blah blah blah" and THEN

into "Blah blah blah Ginger, Blah blah blah Ginger ...."

Great work sirrah! A terrific quickie of "What Dogs Hear" from Msr. Larson!

Saint.
"HEY! Some of us have to WORK for a living!"
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From: chinm@aix.rpi.edu (Mang S. Chin -- Kid Klaxon)
Subject: Re: Squadron Supreme
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 10:29:30 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.043844.14864@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore) writes:
>
>...What happened to the Squadron Supreme appearances in QUASAR? Did they
>get back to their own world or not? and...
As far as I know, the Squadron is still in the "Avenger's Earth".  It's
too bad we don't see more of them.  Luckily, Mark Gruenwald really likes
the Squadron, so we can be sure that they'll be well taken care of should
he be given the opportunities.

>...Did the Squadron Supreme ever find out that Quagmire is still alive and
>well on Earth? (See the QUASAR teaser in Marvel Comics Presents...back
>when they did REAL teasers...)
This Quagmire can't be the same as the Squadron Earth's Quagmire.  I don't
remember his first appearance in Quasar though (they could always
make it fit in, I suppose).  At any rate, when Quagmire disappeared in
his muck in the SS LS, he was STILL behavior modified which would have
prevented him from beating people up all the time.

MSC
From: eusl01@castle.ed.ac.uk (L Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: SANDMAN - old/new questions
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:42:16 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Edinburgh University

Apologies upfront for what are almost certainly questions that have been 
asked before - however in the (reasonably short) period I have been reading Sandman postings here I have not seen real discussion on these points (though some 
peripheral chatter).

(1) What are we meant to take from the fact that Destruction has abandoned  his
realm for the last 300 years? When this first came up in the comic, I thought
it would have been neat if he had vanished in 1945 - when the potential for complete destruction arrived on Earth ie Destruction was completely unregimented.
But nothing so significant happened 300 years. It wasn't the advent of total war; and the arrival of arbitrary violence, serial killers and the like is more an
urban 20th century phenomenon. What happened in the late 17th century? It seems
clear that destruction's absence hasn't made the world a kinder place. So I can
only interpret it as a mechanism for describing change or violence which is in some way unregulated.

(2) Surely some point is being made by clearly starring (sic) Morpheus
rather than Apollo as the father of Orpheus. This is a strange transposition
- Dream seems almost the opposite of the God of the Sun. Did Dream himself
figure other tham metaphorically in Greek myth? I can't remember any refernces to him.

(3) Why DID Delight become Delirium? (Answers on a postcard.) (And when?)

Cheers

Lilian Edwards
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From: afarrell@maths.tcd.ie (Andrew Farrell)
Subject: Re: British Authors
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:20:59 GMT

In <1993Jan21.105051.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> mwhatt01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:

>For a while the only two comics I was getting were Sandman and Excalibur.
>Since the two books were so different I was wondering what they had in
>common to make me buy them.  The only thing they had in common was 
>the both had British authors (Gaiman, Davis).  Later I dropped Excalibur
>and started getting Archer and Armstrong.  Even later I found out that 
>Barry Windsor Smith is British.  Since they are very different from 
>each other, I was wondering what they had in common to make me get them.
>Are British authors naturally superior? 

Lets see: Alan Moore, Alan Davis, Alan Grant, Grant Morrison, Neil Gaiman, 
and Peter Milligan are the olny ones that spring to mind. Not a bad lot,
with Moore, Gaiman and Morrison amongst the top rank of comics writers around.

I have a soft spot for Garth "Busy Man" Ennis myself:-)

>Mike H

Andrew.
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:07:45 -0500 
From: Anatole Wilson <aw3a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Bring back Superboy (was: IS Superman dead?)

Daniel J. Williams writes:

>Of the four new heroes we know about I am most interested in the teen aged
>Superman clone.  We may be seeing the return of Superboy.  Let's petition
>D.C. to let the Kent's raise him.  Then he can start working with the
>Legion of Super-Heroes again.

While I'm not sure I want him back with the LSH, I would look forward to
a new Superboy series. Not the kind that Cary Bates wrote, where
superboy was either a) running away from home or b) acting exactly like
a miniature Superman. what I'd like to see is a more relevant Superboy
facing the issues teens are confronted with these days and having real
teen-age problems. You never know--done right, it could attract a
younger audience back to comics, or at least back to SuperGuy titles. 

  
Anatole Wilson                  "If anyone objects to anything I say,
-----------------                I am prepared not only to retract it,
                                 But to deny under oath that I ever said it
                                 in the first place."
From: mre@kepler.unh.edu (Monty Python's Life of MikE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Zot!
Date: 25 Jan 1993 03:23:50 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

Could somebody please explain to me what Zot! (Is that exclamation mark a
part of the name?) is about?  I'm getting interested here, and I hear it
is/was a good book.  
Thanx.
--MikE!

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