HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: robg@citr.uq.oz.au (Rob Geraghty)
Subject: Re: Anne McCaffrey - Dragons
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:25:00 GMT

tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio Loewald) writes:
>elena@otc.otca.oz.au (Elena Leonardi) writes:
>>Could someone please let me know the order of the books in the Dragon series by
>>Anne McCaffrey.  I'd be much obliged.
>How many are there these days? The original set was Flight, Quest, White.

The order of the books depends on whether you read them in the same order
they were published or the chronological order according to the Pern
timescale.  The order they were published -

Dragonflight
DragonQuest
The White Dragon
DragonSong
DragonSinger
DragonDrums
DragonsDawn
The Rebels of Pern
All the Weyrs of Pern

I have missed out "Moreta, Dragonlady of Pern" and "Nerilka's Story".  The
latter was a novella in a book with the novella "The Coelura" (not a Pern
novella).

There are two time lines - so in Pern chronological order -

Dragonsdawn
Moreta, Dragonlady of Pern
Nerilka's Story
Dragonflight
Dragonquest
The White Dragon
The Rebels of Pern
All the Weyrs of Pern

Then the other sequence which fits between "Dragonflight" and to a time just
after "The White Dragon" -

Dragonsong
Dragonsinger
Dragondrums.

There is also a short story in "Get Off the Unicorn" called "The Littlest
Dragonboy".

Rob

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From: rsalz@rodan.UU.NET (Rich Salz)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: Re: Where do NNTP cogniscenti hang out?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 15:31:20 -0500
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

In <1993Jan22.170216.11543@drd.com> mark@drd.com (Mark.Lawrence) writes:
>The question remains, what is the best way for an inn site wannabe to
>go about getting a feed?  Or is the club too exclusive for such hopes?
More correctly phrased, the question is "how do I get an NNTP feed?"
Go about it the same way you go about getting a UUCP feed:
	Ask friends
	Ask someone to post a note
	Ask UUNET, PSI, etc., for a list of fees
In addition, many network providers (especially NSFNet regionals) will
provide a free feed to their members.
	/r$
Newsgroups: news.software.b
From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: Expire takes forever under C-News
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:10:09 GMT
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology

In article <1993Jan15.230749.68@mwblind> jerbo@mwblind (Jeremy Bettis) writes:
>I have been receiving messages about abnormal lock files from newswatch ever
>since I got my news feed.  It seems to take 3 or 4 hours to expire... This is
>with only news.* and comp.unix.xenix.* no other newsgroups!  I am running
>under SCO Xenix 3.2.3.  Where should I be looking for problems? ...

Please read doc/trouble, specifically the first item under "Frequently
Reported Problems".
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       -Gene Cernan, the Moon, Dec 1972 |  henry@zoo.toronto.edu  utzoo!henry
From: anne@alcor.concordia.ca (Anne Bennett)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: Relative path name in batch file.
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:11:23 GMT
Reply-To: anne@alcor.concordia.ca (Anne Bennett)
Organization: Concordia University, Montreal, Canada

ilg@dasher.cc.bellcore.com (guthrie,ian) writes:
> I am running cnews and nntp 1.5.11.
> 
> Whenever an article is posted, the relative path name is entered in the
> batch file (/usr/spool/news/batch/"host") specified in the sys file.
> 
> The causes a problem when nntpxmit is executed, because
> it cannot find the article.
> 
> Does anyone know how to fix this so that the full path is entered instead?

to which ccsis@sunlab1.bath.ac.uk (Icarus Sparry) replies:
> The correct thing to do is to fix nntpxmit. As this is a
> shell script, it is very easy to do.
> 
> Find the line which says
>                        time nntpxmit ${host}:${send}
> and change it to
>                 ( cd /usr/spool/news ; time nntpxmit ${host}:$batchdir/${send} )

Actually, nntpxmit is not a shell script but a binary; Icarus Sparry
meant to refer to "nntpsend.{sh,csh}".

I do not use that shell script, because I invoke my nntpxmits from
newsxd, which takes care of work files and such niceties.  I just wrote a
script called nntpxmit.wrap, as follows:
        :
        cd /usr/spool/news
        /usr/lib/news/etc/nntpxmit $*

and I invoke nntpxmit.wrap from newsxd.

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(Administrator for Concordia University mail relay, news transfer, and DNS) 
Newsgroups: news.software.b
From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: Am I the only one with Cnews-perf inews problems?
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:05:48 GMT

>>I've been lurking for a while, hoping for an answer to float by, but it doesn't
>>look like that's going to happen.

>It's faster to just ask...   :-)

I didn't want to be told to FAQ off 8^)

>Sounds like something is misconfigured.

The biggest problem turned out to be that "stripinvis" either comes empty
is is created empty.  I deleted it and remade it, and got a the real script.

It didn't help that whatever archive I got the distribution from had an
incomplete version of the known.problems file.


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From: markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Mark Bixby)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: Re: Where do NNTP cogniscenti hang out?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 17:09:21 -0800
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA
Reply-To: markb@cccd.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: spock.dis.cccd.edu

In article <1993Jan22.170216.11543@drd.com> mark@drd.com (Mark.Lawrence) writes:
>The question remains, what is the best way for an inn site wannabe to
>go about getting a feed?  Or is the club too exclusive for such hopes?

If you want to get a free feed, try asking your friendly local
neighborhood educational instutition.  We get our primary feed from our
service provider, CERFnet, and a secondary feed from our next-door-neighbor
(geographically & topologically) UC Irvine.
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Newsgroups: news.software.b
From: news@geovision.gvc.com (News Administrator)
Subject: Never see posts to moderated groups in Cnews
Summary: cnews perf-release never see my postings to mod groups
Reply-To: pt@compass.gvc.com
Organization: Not officially GeoVision Systems Inc., Ottawa, Ontario
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:05:05 GMT

When I post to a moderated group, I get replys, so I know it's getting
there, and getting replys, but the posting itself never seems to arrive
back at my site.

The most recent one was a RFD I posted to news.announce.newgroups that I've
recieved 4 replys to since I posted it a week ago, but it never made it
here.

Could it be that my post has `geovision' in the from line, and thus my feed
site isn't sending it to me?  If so, is there some configuration thing that
he (or I) need to do?

We're both using Cnews performance release.
-- 
The Anonymous News Administrator (if you need to know, you already know)
I just administer the news, I don't make or state policy.
From: jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: INN -- manipulating active file
Date: 23 Jan 1993 14:53:49 -0500
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
NNTP-Posting-Host: slab.mtholyoke.edu

If I want to manipulate the active file (editing, sorting), is the
following the safe and correct sequence of commands?

   ctlinnd pause "edit active"
   [do something to the active file]
   ctlinnd reload active "edit active"
   ctlinnd go "edit active"

If I want to manipulate the active from a program (Perl script), do
I do the same thing, or is there a shortcut?
-- 
Jurgen Botz, jbotz@mtholyoke.edu
Northampton, MA, USA
Newsgroups: news.software.b
From: jmalcolm@sura.net (Joseph Malcolm)
Subject: Re: Disk I/O limited: C News or INN?
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:16:34 GMT

In article <1k16lsINNm5q@hpsceo.scd.hp.com> schmitz@scd.hp.com (John Schmitz) writes:
>I have a system running the performance release of C News.
>Everything is fine except for the fact that it gets quite a bit
>behind in processing news relative to other systems I'm aware of (a
>couple hours on similar cpu's).  A quick look at the system shows it
>to be limited by disk I/O, not CPU.  The question:  is there any
>reason to expect INN to be better in this case?  Presumably both C
>News and INN have to shove the same bits around.  Or maybe INN will
>be better since the data won't first get written to in.coming and
>then re-written to the news spool?

This will probably help significantly, especially if you get far
behind. (If you are significantly behind, the batches will probably
not be still cached when relaynews gets around to processing them.)

It is also true that with INN you can't build up a big queue of
unprocessed stuff on disk. (Well, with nntp, anyway.)

>The site in question gets a nearly full feed via NNTP and uses the
>reference nntpd.  /usr/spool/news is on one disk (including in.coming)
>and /usr/local/lib/news is on another.  Comments?

Sticking in.coming on a different disk than /usr/spool/news would
probably help more than does the same for newslib.

-- 
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SURAnet Operations			+1 301 982 4600
From: schmitz@scd.hp.com (John Schmitz)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: Disk I/O limited: C News or INN?
Date: 25 Jan 1993 09:06:04 -0800
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Santa Clara Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpsceo.scd.hp.com

I have a system running the performance release of C News.
Everything is fine except for the fact that it gets quite a bit
behind in processing news relative to other systems I'm aware of (a
couple hours on similar cpu's).  A quick look at the system shows it
to be limited by disk I/O, not CPU.  The question:  is there any
reason to expect INN to be better in this case?  Presumably both C
News and INN have to shove the same bits around.  Or maybe INN will
be better since the data won't first get written to in.coming and
then re-written to the news spool?  The site in question gets a
nearly full feed via NNTP and uses the reference nntpd.
/usr/spool/news is on one disk (including in.coming) and
/usr/local/lib/news is on another.  Comments?
From: rsalz@rodan.UU.NET (Rich Salz)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: Re: Inn - slave server question
Date: 28 Jan 1993 10:49:35 -0500
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

In <1k244cINNf0g@calvin.NYU.EDU> rosenblg@calvin.NYU.EDU (Gary J. Rosenblum) writes:
>I've set up two Inn slave servers which gets their feed from
>another master server.  When host acf5.nyu.edu tries to read news from
>either slave server, I get the message:
>/usr/local/etc/in.nnrpd: illegal option -- S
Look at the getopt() call and swtich statement in main in nnrpd/nnrpd.c
Find the two M's and change them to S's.

Fixed in 1.3
	/r$
Newsgroups: news.software.b
From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: Never see posts to moderated groups in Cnews
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:30:08 GMT
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology

In article <C1BGsL.Ao1@geovision.gvc.com> pt@compass.gvc.com writes:
>Could it be that my post has `geovision' in the from line, and thus my feed
>site isn't sending it to me?  If so, is there some configuration thing that
>he (or I) need to do?

The From header isn't consulted at all in the way you are thinking of.
Such processing is applied only to the Path line.  If the moderator of
a moderated group is putting your site's name in a Path, complain!  He
shouldn't be!  The Path line should/must list *only* systems that the
article has passed through as *news*.

I think most moderators get this one right.
-- 
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       -Gene Cernan, the Moon, Dec 1972 |  henry@zoo.toronto.edu  utzoo!henry
From: ianh@resmel.bhp.com.au (Ian Hoyle)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: Message-Id problem in newsgate
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:33:24 GMT
Organization: BHP Research - Melbourne Laboratories
NNTP-Posting-Host: morgana.resmel.bhp.com.au

I'm using newsgate to gateway email <----> news (using sendmail
and INN as 'transports').

I have just had a message rejected with the following error:

mail2news:  Rejected by netnews because:
        Message-ID syntax error.
*** Please refer to page 23, paragraph 4.6.1. and Appendix D
*** of NIC RFC #822 for the correct syntax, and fix your mailer..
        It was going into the newsgroup bhp.test.
501 "|/usr/local/news/bin/mail2news -n bhp.test -o 'BHP news/mail gateway' -d bhp"... Data format error



and the message in question (relevent headers only) is



Subject: test
To: "bhp.test news" <bhp-test@resmel.bhp.com.au>
Message-Id: 
 <1429151326011993/A02523/VULCAN/1171D34F1600*@mrgate.resmel.bhp.com.au>
Autoforwarded: false
Mime-Version: 1.0



Has anyone else struck this?? Does newsgate correctly handle the message-id
extending onto a second line??

	ian
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Newsgroups: news.software.b
From: mark@drd.com (Mark.Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Where do NNTP cogniscenti hang out?
Organization: DRD Corporation
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:02:16 GMT

>In <1993Jan20.180827.7596@sura.net> jmalcolm@sura.net (Joseph Malcolm) writes:
>>p.p.s. It is unclear (to me) if nntp-managers is worth the trouble.

In article <1jk5akINNp7k@rodan.UU.NET> rsalz@rodan.UU.NET (Rich Salz) writes:
>For the past year or so, it has mostly been "I need a feed" messages.
>	/r$

precisely the reason I posted at the start of this thread.  

The question remains, what is the best way for an inn site wannabe to
go about getting a feed?  Or is the club too exclusive for such hopes?

-- 
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Newsgroups: news.software.b
From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: Dumb C news question
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 04:30:08 GMT
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology

In article <C1J22p.2CH@geovision.gvc.com> pt@compass.gvc.com writes:
>Would it be possible to just send those .Z files directly on to my outgoing
>feeds?

Unfortunately, no:  the Path lines do have to be modified on each host.
In sufficiently constrained circumstances, you could avoid the necessity
of this, but it's rare enough that it's never seemed worth the trouble.
-- 
"God willing... we shall return."       | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
       -Gene Cernan, the Moon, Dec 1972 |  henry@zoo.toronto.edu  utzoo!henry
Newsgroups: news.software.b
From: jmalcolm@sura.net (Joseph Malcolm)
Subject: Re: Where do NNTP cogniscenti hang out?
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:13:44 GMT

In article <1jk5akINNp7k@rodan.UU.NET> rsalz@rodan.UU.NET (Rich Salz) writes:
>In <1993Jan20.180827.7596@sura.net> jmalcolm@sura.net (Joseph Malcolm) writes:
>>p.p.s. It is unclear (to me) if nntp-managers is worth the trouble.
>For the past year or so, it has mostly been "I need a feed" messages.

Probably not all that useful, then.

At this point, though, it's more for the sake of it than anything
else.

-- 
Joseph Malcolm				jmalcolm@sura.net		
SURAnet Operations			+1 301 982 4600
From: jgreely@morganucodon.cis.ohio-state.edu (J Greely)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: Re: INN 1.2 newgroup control message problem
Date: 28 Jan 1993 13:58:52 -0500
Organization: Ohio State University Computer and Information Science
	<1k8vhrINNgbh@rodan.UU.NET>
	<JGREELY.93Jan28130257@morganucodon.cis.ohio-state.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: morganucodon.cis.ohio-state.edu
In-reply-to: jgreely@morganucodon.cis.ohio-state.edu's message of 28 Jan 1993 13:03:04 -0500

In article <JGREELY.93Jan28130257@morganucodon.cis.ohio-state.edu>
 jgreely@morganucodon.cis.ohio-state.edu (J Greely) writes:
>and I'll poke at the GNU version to see if there's
>something obviously wrong with the way it's compiled here.

It didn't take much poking.  It appears from the source that commands of
the form:
	sed -n -e "s/foo/bar/p"
will never print anything in this version of GNU sed.  you have to use
something like this:
	sed -n -e "/foo/ {s//bar/;p;}"
-- 
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Newsgroups: news.software.b
From: bsakach@wnas.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Brian Sakach)
Subject: Re: Am I the only one with Cnews-perf inews problems?
Reply-To: Brian.Sakach@daytonoh.ncr.com (Brian Sakach)
Organization: NCR Corporation
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 12:44:47 GMT

In article <1993Jan19.145800.8701@sci34hub.sci.com> gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston) writes:
>In article <1993Jan17.002623.26172@siemens.com> aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri) writes:
>>
>>"/local/cna/lib/news/inews: cat: write error: Broken pipe"

Check your inject/stripinvis to see if it's empty.  If so, execute
`mkstripinvis > stripinvis' in your source archive and move it to 
$NEWSBIN/inject/stripinvis.

-- 
Brian.Sakach@DaytonOH.NCR.COM
From: rosenblg@calvin.NYU.EDU (Gary J. Rosenblum)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: Inn - slave server question
Date: 25 Jan 1993 20:28:44 -0500
Organization: New York University
NNTP-Posting-Host: calvin.nyu.edu

I've set up two Inn slave servers which gets their feed from
another master server.  When host acf5.nyu.edu tries to read news from
either slave server, I get the message:
/usr/local/etc/in.nnrpd: illegal option -- S
Usage error.

host acf5.nyu.edu is in the nnrp.access as

acf5.nyu.edu:RP:::*

anything i missed in the setup?
		
					gary

-- 
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UNIX Systems Manager			rosenblg@nyu.edu
New York University			gary@nyu.edu
From: graaff@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl (Hans de Graaff)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: Smart expire utility
Date: 24 Jan 93 17:38:47 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology

I have been thinking about a smart expiration utility for some time
now, but before I start to write the thing I'd like to know whether
there are already others who have done this.

Like everybody else I hate it when the disk space for the newsspool
sits there half-empty because not enough people type text around the
world. The obvious solution is to run expireiflow, and that helps
some. However, we have different expiration policies for different
newsgroups here, and I find some groups to be way more valuable then
others. Here's the scheme I propose:

The smartexpire script first looks at the dispspace, and decides
whether expiration is needed. If it is, it expires according to the
first rule in the expire-list. It then checks whether enough space is
freed up. If there is, smartexpire stops. Otherwise, it expires
according to the second line, checks again, etc.

This way, important stuff can be at the bottom of the expire-list, and
therefore stay on the system much longer, while crap can be deleted
way fast.

If somebody has alreay written something like this I'd like to know.
Otherwise I might give it a try, so comments are also welcomed.

Hans
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J.J.deGraaff@IS.TWI.TUDelft.NL  |   who doesn't lead the way
Department of Informatics       | I want someone to listen,
Delft University of Technology  |   who won't repeat what I say
From: au141@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Amber M. Spillers)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: [CNEWS] inews -h produces no errors but I don't see it working
Date: 21 Jan 1993 17:54:24 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: au141@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Amber M. Spillers)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


   I have recently installed Cnews on my BSD machine with taylor UUCP
(I have not even gotten to UUCP problems yet) and when I post to a group
I news goes chunking away and no longer produces error messahes (initaly
I had a permission problem).  I know that after Inews has done its thing
I should not be seeing the post in the group it was posted to until I
run newsrun.    as I understand it newsrun takes the queued up articles
and puts them in their proper places (the .../spool/news/... directory).

   well, it is not, and I really haven't a clue, I can't even find the
queued up news really, I do see some files in the
.../spool/news/in.coming directory but they are not the file I posted.
can anyone out there provide some guidance/suggestions?

  feel free to post or E-mail but E-mail is perfered seeing has how I
obvioulsy don't have news running properly yet. ;)


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From: jgreely@morganucodon.cis.ohio-state.edu (J Greely)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: INN 1.2 newgroup control message problem
Date: 25 Jan 1993 22:33:26 -0500
Organization: Ohio State University Computer and Information Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: morganucodon.cis.ohio-state.edu

All newgroup messages land in my newgroup.log file as "Unparseable".
My control.ctl file is stock (irrelevant, I'd say, since it doesn't
seem to be getting that far).  I even used the supplied makegroup
script to generate a sample newgroup, and, sure enough, the log file
reports:
	Unparseable newgroup by news@cis.ohio-state.edu

  I'm running SunOS 4.1.1 (patched for the dbzsync problem), and have
INN configured to use GNU sed 1.12, GNU grep 1.6, and GNU gawk 2.13.
RTFM and RTFFAQ have offered no solutions (having the filesystem break
my news2mail gateways didn't help either, but that's another
story...).  Anyone?
-- 
J Greely (jgreely@cis.ohio-state.edu; osu-cis!jgreely)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
From: jerbo@mwblind.UUCP (Jeremy Bettis)
Subject: Re: Expire takes forever under C-News
Organization: Midwest Venetian Blind
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:23:16 GMT

tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Limoncelli) writes:
>In article <1993Jan15.230749.68@mwblind> jerbo@mwblind (Jeremy Bettis) writes:
>>I have been receiving messages about abnormal lock files from newswatch ever
>>since I got my news feed.  It seems to take 3 or 4 hours to expire... This is
>>with only news.* and comp.unix.xenix.* no other newsgroups!  I am running
>>under SCO Xenix 3.2.3.  Where should I be looking for problems? ...

>The moral of this story is that when a build script puts a warning in
>front of your face, you might consider following its advice.  Also,
>reading doc/problems before you post to news.software.b is always a
>good idea.  doc/problems goes into detail about the SCO problem.

This had never happened in the past,  but anyhow... I ftp'ed the a newer
c-news and compiled it (myself this time, someone else did the first one) No
problems, it works quite nicely, with several improvements over the older
version.  I never did find the version number to the old one... Hmmm
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