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From: robo@oregon.uoregon.edu (O'Neill, Rob)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Nancy Griffith tune...
Date: 26 Jan 93 00:47:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: oregon.robo.29
Organization: University of Oregon
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I apologize, but I've been out of town for awhile.  Last week I posted a 
note about a N.G. tune called "Radio Fragile", in which she refers to the "
midnight boy from Minnesota".  It appears there may have been some 
conversation I missed out on.  Could someone post a quick note summarizing 
people's reactions?  Did others know about it?  Do people think it's a 
reference to Mr. D?  Feedback appreciated...

Rob O'Neill
Univ. of Oregon
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From: CSMSAXS@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (CSMSAXS (Arnie Stodolsky))
Subject: Re: Dates to watch for
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:40:08 PST

In article <1993Jan26.142137.23154@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>, on 26 Jan 1993 14:21:37 GMT,
BUCK@vax.museum.upenn.edu writes:

>
>February 6      A Country Music Celebration on CBS
>March 2         Nancy Griffith album release (Bob on Boots)
>March 23        Willie Nelson Across The Borderline release (Bob
>                on Heartland)
>April 2-4       Dylan convention, Seattle
>
>buck@vax.museum.upenn.edu
>

March 6 - BobFest on PBS
Arnie
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: jab@cs.brown.edu (James M. Borger)
Subject: Re: I'm Waiting for the Band
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:20:39 GMT

In article <15271@ncrcan.Canada.NCR.CA>, scsykes@ncrcan.Canada.NCR.CA (scsykes) writes:
|> MNS103@psuvm.psu.edu wrote:
|> : I find it astonishing how the Velvet Underground were not inducted into the
|> : Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame this year -- after having been nominated twice!
|> : Although every act voted in thus far is certainly deserving, the VU is
|> : undoubtedly one of the most important bands in rock history, one that did not
|> : have any precedent.  As a fan of Dylan, I look for authenticity and
|> : intelligence in rock 'n roll, and also vision.  The Velvets had all three,
|> : which unfortunately cannot be said of the Hall of Fame committee.  Rock critics
|> : write how it took the music world ten years to catch up with the VU.  I sure
|> : hope history doesn't repeat itself.
|> 
|> The critics are wrong - the music world has still not caught up.

Amen.
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From: howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John Howells)
Subject: Re: blind boy grunt a liberal?
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:56:07 GMT

georger@utoday.com (George Rothe) writes:

<>><seems to have reaffirmed that he's at heart a liberal democrat.
<>>< 
<>>
<>>bullshit
<>the phil ochs song "Love me - I'm a Liberal" comes to mind here, as i
<>think that you are all correct to a degree.  (there is a rumour that
<>once enroute to somewhere, dylan had phil ochs thrown out of the car
<>because he couldnt stand him anymore.) 

<he threw him out of the car cause ochs had just panned crawl out your window.
<ochs told dylan the song wouldn't make it...dylan said to ochs,'you're 
<nothing but a journalist!'

<>there were many aspects of Liberals that really annoyed dylan.

<to say ochs was a liberal (maybe you should go back and check the lyrics
<to 'love me i'm a liberal')is like saying ....you have a cold and take
<a shot of malaria :-)  ochs greatest fault, and ultimately his downfall,
<imo, was his inability to accept people who could not commit themselves
<all the way...hence the song 'love me - i'm a liberal'.  a far cry from
<being a liberal himself!

Amen to that brother! This whole thread started when I stated that Dylan
was at heart a liberal and someone reponded that he can't be because his
entire thing in the '60s was "showing up the hypocricy of the liberals"
(or something like that), as if he were some 1960s version of Rush
Limbaugh! I assumed the person in question confused Bob Dylan with Bob
Roberts :-)

Of course Dylan was disillusioned with establishment liberals - so am I
- but that doesn't in turn translate to conservatism. Dylan blasted
hypocrites on both sides of the fence and for the most part kept out of
politics after 1964.

Anyone who could play such an important (and often unsung) role in the
civil rights movement of the early 1960s couldn't possibly have been a
conservative.

--
                                        John Howells
                                        howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov 
                                        howells@earth.arc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: DAVID DAVIES <ddavies@USMCP6.BITNET>
Subject: Highway 61 subscription request
Reply-To: ddavies@USMCP6.BITNET
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:03:51 GMT

Please sign me up for the Highway 61 interest group. Thank you
very much for your trouble.

David R. Davies  601-266-4269  <ddavies@usmcp6.bitnet>
From: bloom@buast7.bu.edu (Steve Bloom)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: Bob in DC
Date: 23 Jan 93 17:53:47 GMT
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <1993Jan18.152146.9484@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> BUCK@vax.museum.upenn.edu writes:

>I hope Bob just doesn't understand, but whatever, he will be looked on as
>endorsing Clinton because he showed up. 

>Rebecca
>buck@vax.museum.upenn.edu

Huh?? I think he understands this just fine. Just one of many who wanted
to get on the bandwagon I'm afraid. My guess is that he wanted to be seen
endorsing Clinton, or at least some his policies. My guess is that he'll
be one of many who'll jump ship too.(excuse the metaphor mixing)
From: cpw2@watarts.uwaterloo.ca (Ted Martin Cpw2 Rick Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: More Songs about Dylan
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:34:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: watserv2.C1Gtu4.F5r
Organization: University of Waterloo

This discussion is pretty pointless, but who am I to quibble.
Besides I've got an endless store of such songs. How about
The Original Caste (remember "One Tin Soldier"?) doing a
Porter/Lambert tune called "A Picture of Bob Dylan" (approx).
The chorus is something about "hiding behind the picture of
Bob Dylan on your wall."
The Beatles sing about Dylan in "Yer Blues"; Donovan sings
about him somewhere on the _Sunshine Superman_ album; and 
so on and on and on.

--Ted Martin.
From: RCJ@AUTOMATION.UNIVERSITY-LIBRARY.CAMBRIDGE.AC.UK
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Esoteric runes for UNIX Dylanophiles with full Internet access...
Date: 28 Jan 1993 08:04:35 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


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Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: cpw2@watarts.uwaterloo.ca (Ted Martin Cpw2 Rick Martin)
Subject: Re: Nanci Griffith song about Bob D.?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:45:25 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.112105.2342@fwi.uva.nl> niese@fwi.uva.nl (Eddie Niese) writes:
>>>David Bowie wrote an excellant song about Bob on his
>Actaully it is a song AGAINST Bob Dylan saying he is too critical and to
>pessimistic about the world.
>Bob answered David Bowie in "Balled for a thin man".
>"You know something's happening but you don't know what it is,
>Do you? Mister Jones"
>
>NOTE: Jones is the real name of David Bowie....
Except "Ballad of a Thin Man" is 1965 and "Song for Bob Dylan" is 1969.
Perhaps the problem--or pleasure--with this whole line of discourse is
that it is all so wide open for interpretation. 
>
>Eddie Niese.
>(I like both Dylan and Bowie)
>For those of you who are not familiar with Bowie: Listen to "Ziggy Stardust"!!
>


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From: howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John Howells)
Subject: Re: songs about dylan -- bowie
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:22:29 GMT

an3243@anon.penet.fi (ben reitman) writes:

<someone wrote recently that dylan responded to bowie's hunky dory song w/
<ballad of a thin man...yet didn't hwy 61 revisited come out *before*
<hunky dory?!!!????!!!!

<also, as for songs about bob, how about simon and garfunkel's "the boxer?"

<when i left my home...no more than a boy...seeking out the poorer corners
<where the ragged people go...bob in ny in the early 60's?

More likely autobiographical - Paul Simon himself.

--
                                        John Howells
                                        howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov 
                                        howells@earth.arc.nasa.gov
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From: libfgr@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Frank G. Rogers)
Subject: Re: Damage Control
Organization: Georgia State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:51:24 GMT

steve@wet.COM (Steve Meloan) writes:

>I realize that this newsgroup is generally of an adoring nature, so I hope
>that this won't create too much of a firestorm...

>My question is, does anyone out there think that there is something "not right"
>about today's Bob Dylan (the man).  I'm referring to his disoriented manner 
>and facial expressions at the Grammy tribute (along with any of a number of 
>other recent appearances).  To me, he has the look of someone that's somehow 
>"damaged" (a la Brian Wilson).  And don't get me wrong, I'm still a big fan,
>and intimately familiar with his work, both old and new.  I'm just wondering 
>if I'm the only one that has this impression.  And it's not just his demeanor.
>I mean, everyone talks about how his singing has always been a bit borderline.  
>I disagree.  Go out and rent "Don't Look Back."  It's clear, concise, and 
>on key.  All of the above are rarely the case anymore.  His voice is now a
>constricted, nearly atonal, nasal croak.  It still works on certain songs,
>as does modern era Tom Waits on some of his, but clearly, there's been a 
>major change.  Comments?  

In my humble (not a word I'm frequently found applying to myself) opinion,
there's nothing wrong with him that layin' off the whiskey would't fix.
I've seen him a couple of times in recent shows and he's never sounded   
better.  Now, I've been told (streams of rumor, idle gossip, and innuendo to    follow) that his idea of a good time before a public appearence is to sit
up in his hotel room with his 300 pound dog and a bottle of Wild Turkey of 
about the same weight.  A little drunk and disoriented at perhaps   
unfortunate moments (not a hell of a lot different than back in the "Don't
Look Back" era but it comes off a little more endearing in a pretentious
young folksinger than in an aging troubadour), but I don't think he's
"damaged" in the way that you mean.

-f


-- 
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               ...after that everybody began to rave....
                                       -- Celine
 Frank Rogers (INTERNET: libfgr@gsusgi2.gsu.edu) 
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Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: jab@cs.brown.edu (James M. Borger)
Subject: Re: songs about dylan -- bowie
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:44:57 GMT


|> <also, as for songs about bob, how about simon and garfunkel's "the boxer?"
|> 
|> <when i left my home...no more than a boy...seeking out the poorer corners
|> <where the ragged people go...bob in ny in the early 60's?
|> 
|> More likely autobiographical - Paul Simon himself.

This song could be about any of several million real or fictional people.

Jim Borger
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: roger@ssd.intel.com (Roger Golliver)
Subject: QUAD version of Planet Waves
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division (SSD), Intel
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:34:08 GMT

Hi,

While making the rounds at record and book stores in Portland this weekend,
I noticed a Quad copy of "Planet Waves".  I would guess this is pretty rare.
I'm not collecting all of the vinyl formats of the official releases, but
if anyone out on the net wants it, let me know (via email.)
I can go back to the shop and pick it for you.
I think they were asking $30 or $35 for it.

Roger
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: jab@cs.brown.edu (James M. Borger)
Subject: Another interpretation
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 21:51:11 GMT

A friend of mine pointed this out to me...

Pete Seager (sp?) sings a song with a chorus that goes, "The slate is black,
...".  It's about the Supreme Court and Brown v. Board of Ed, and
somewhat cleverly juxtaposes the black/white colors of slate/chalk, ink/paper, 
robes of justices/faces of justices, and black people/white people.  The point
is, however, that Pete sings all about how this equality in schools will bring
about liberty.(!)  Pete sure fits in the self-ordained professor mold, too.  Any
thoughts?

Jim Borger
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: BUCK@vax.museum.upenn.edu
Subject: Dates to watch for
Reply-To: BUCK@vax.museum.upenn.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:21:37 GMT

February 6	A Country Music Celebration on CBS
March 2		Nancy Griffith album release (Bob on Boots)
March 23	Willie Nelson Across The Borderline release (Bob
		on Heartland)
April 2-4	Dylan convention, Seattle

buck@vax.museum.upenn.edu
From: scsykes@ncrcan.Canada.NCR.CA (scsykes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: I'm Waiting for the Band
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:58:09 GMT
Organization: NCR Canada Ltd. Mississauga, Ontario
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

MNS103@psuvm.psu.edu wrote:
: I find it astonishing how the Velvet Underground were not inducted into the
: Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame this year -- after having been nominated twice!
: Although every act voted in thus far is certainly deserving, the VU is
: undoubtedly one of the most important bands in rock history, one that did not
: have any precedent.  As a fan of Dylan, I look for authenticity and
: intelligence in rock 'n roll, and also vision.  The Velvets had all three,
: which unfortunately cannot be said of the Hall of Fame committee.  Rock critics
: write how it took the music world ten years to catch up with the VU.  I sure
: hope history doesn't repeat itself.

The critics are wrong - the music world has still not caught up.
From: stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Steve Portigal)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Infidels Outtakes/Sweetheart Sessions?
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:22:26 GMT
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


 Does anyone have a song list handy for the 100min or so tape
called Infidels Outtakes/Sweetheart Sessions?

 I'd prefer email responses as I dont read this group regularly.

 Thanks.
-- 
+-------------------------------------------------------------+
|  Steve Portigal  University of Guelph  Guelph, Ontario      |
|  stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (519) 824-4120 x 3580      |
|  "Oh Andy Capp, you wife-beating drunk!" - Homer Simpson    | 
+-------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: tb1153@thor.albany.edu (BEIDEL TIMOTHY)
Subject: Re: Nanci Griffith song about Bob D.?
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 21:43:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.164019.4430@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> pgwfranc@atlas.cs.upei.ca (Wayne Francis) writes:
>In article <robo.28@oregon.uoregon.edu> robo@oregon.uoregon.edu (O'Neill, Rob) writes:
>>On Nanci Griffith's album "Storms", she has a song called "Radio Fragile", 
>>in which she refers to the "midnight boy from Minnesota"; I've often 
>>wondered if it's a Bob D. reference; if you can, check it out and let me 
>>know what you think (I'm a relative newcomer to the group, so this may have 
>>been discussed before...)
>>
>>Rob O'Neill
>>Univ. of Oregon
>
>   The Tom Petty song, A Self Made Man from Let Me Up (I've Had Enough)
>is about Bob in my opinion, as this album was done during the period they
>toured together. David Bowie wrote an excellant song about Bob on his
>Hunky Dory album. It was called Song For Bob Dylan. A very good song from
>a very good album.
>
>Wayne Francis
>pgwfranc@atlas.cs.upei.ca
>

I think I read somewhare before that Jackson Browne was thinking about 
Bob when he sang "The great song traveler passed through here/And he opened
my eyes to the view/And I was among those who called him a prophet/And I
asked him what was true" on "Something Fine" from his first LP, "Jackson
Browne."

-- 


Tim Beidel
Albany, NY
From: robo@oregon.uoregon.edu (O'Neill, Rob)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Dylan's "altered appearance.."
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:27:40 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
NNTP-Posting-Host: robo.uoregon.edu

I was interested to read the post the other day re: whether or not Dylan has 
appeared to be physically "distressed" as of late.  One thing I don't think 
folks mentioned that I think has to be considered is the effect of drugs.  
He may not look so together on certain occasions due to the influence of 
_____, or ______, or ______.  Remember Live Aid?

Rob O'Neill
Univ. of Oregon
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: jgoldste@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Jacob H Goldstein)
Subject: neil young albums
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:55:58 GMT
Keywords: neil young

1980 Hawks and Doves  i think with ben keith and that studioesque band
1981 Reactor  Crazy Horse
1982 Trans    Crazy Horse and ben keith and others 
1983 Everybody's Rockin'  The Shocking Pinks
1984(??) Old Ways   a Geffen country album I've never heard
1986 Landing on Water  I haven't heard this but i think it's ben keith and
			some synthesizers
1987 Life  Crazy Horse
1988 This Note's for You   the Bluenotes

he's a demigod.

					jake jgoldste@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu


Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: pwssab@mips2.ma30.bull.com (Pws Sablime Login)
Subject: Re: blind boy grunt a liberal?
Organization: Bull HN Informations Systems Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:08:47 GMT

howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John Howells) writes:

>an3243@anon.penet.fi (ben reitman) writes:

><AT HEART A LIBERAL DEMOCRAT?  HEAVEN FORBID!!!  If dylan was about anything
><in the 60's he was about exposing the hypocrisy of liberal democrats!!!

>bullshit

>--
>                                        John Howells
>                                        howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov 
>                                        howells@earth.arc.nasa.gov

I once read a quote (I wish I could remember to whom to attribute it) that
defined a liberal as someone who would not take his own side in an argument.
Think about that for a minute and I think you will find it hard to disagree.
Generally speaking, in practice however, liberals are not like that. Now that
I've said that I realize it's much too broad a generalization. Personally,
I consider myself a liberal and have often found myself reluctant to defend
my position on political issues, i.e. a true liberal. At other times I have
fallen prey to the "hypocrisy" described so deliciously by Bob when he sings:
"Now I'm a liberal, but to a degree.
I want everybody to be free.
But if you think I'd let Barry Goldwater
Move in next door and marry my daughter,
You must think I'm crazy.
I wouldn't let him do it for all the farms in Cuba".
I still get a good laugh every time I hear this verse. I think Bob was
definitely yanking the "liberals'" chains here but it seems to me, that
philosophically, he was/is a lot closer to the Democratic liberals than the
Republican conservatives, fundamental Christianity/Judaism notwithstanding.

JB
From: leekil@bbn.com (Lee Kilpatrick)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Non-US Bob Dylan albums
Date: 25 Jan 1993 05:16:49 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com


I saw these albums in a store the other day.  They appear to be
legitimate releases, but apparently non-US releases.  I didn't get
chance to look at them very closely.  Does anyone have any more
information about them?

1) Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits Vol. III

	Apparently just a third greatest hits album... from Australia,
maybe?


2) Masterpieces

	A Greatest Hits compilation, though 3 CDs and I believe
released in the 80s or 90s.  Spanning Dylan's whole career?


3) A Fool Such As I

	This album I believe was from the early/mid 70s and seemed to
have otherwise unreleased songs on it.



	Lee






Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: georger@utoday.com (George Rothe)
Subject: Re: blind boy grunt a liberal?
Organization: UNIX Today!
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 13:43:40 GMT

>><seems to have reaffirmed that he's at heart a liberal democrat.
>>< 
>>
>>bullshit
>the phil ochs song "Love me - I'm a Liberal" comes to mind here, as i
>think that you are all correct to a degree.  (there is a rumour that
>once enroute to somewhere, dylan had phil ochs thrown out of the car
>because he couldnt stand him anymore.) 

he threw him out of the car cause ochs had just panned crawl out your window.
ochs told dylan the song wouldn't make it...dylan said to ochs,'you're 
nothing but a journalist!'

>there were many aspects of Liberals that really annoyed dylan.

to say ochs was a liberal (maybe you should go back and check the lyrics
to 'love me i'm a liberal')is like saying ....you have a cold and take
a shot of malaria :-)  ochs greatest fault, and ultimately his downfall,
imo, was his inability to accept people who could not commit themselves
all the way...hence the song 'love me - i'm a liberal'.  a far cry from
being a liberal himself!



Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: rose@cs.iastate.edu (John T. Rose)
Subject: Re: Damage Control
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:17:05 GMT

Well, I saw him in person 3 times this summer at quite close range in
very small venues and I frankly could not believe some of his televised
appearances from the same time frame. I've been going to Dylan concerts
for the past 15 years and he's never looked or sounded better than this
year. My guess is that Bob suffers from intense stage-fright at most
"major" events. That explanation is a little hard for me to believe but
I have no idea what else could cause the changes I've noticed over the
past year. I really don't think he's suffering from anything like the
Brian Wilson syndrome.

John