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From: sl2k+@andrew.cmu.edu (Schitt Laowattana)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Honorable Attitude? (was Re: US born kids in s.c.taiwan)
Date: 26 Aug 92 04:40:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.8earjBK00WBNI1KlE2
Organization: Doctoral student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


Khun Me Mann wrote:

Excerpts from netnews.soc.culture.thai: 26-Aug-92 Honorable Attitude?
(was Re.. by Me Mann@nyx.cs.du.edu 

> This is a part of an article I picked up from s.c.taiwan.
> It is anectodical and perhaps exemplary for Thais.
>  
>  
> >In article <Bt13x8.73p@acsu.buffalo.edu> stsai@acsu.buffalo.edu
(Shuoh-Ren Ts
> ai) writes:
> >
>  
> > One of my neighbors is a female Graduate student of Medical School
> > of U. of Maryland. She came to Buffalo to do research with her
> > Advisor. She came from Thailand. And she is so small and young.
> > When I told her something about looking for job in US, I was so
> > surprised that she said, "No matter how poor Thailand is, I will go
> > back to Thailand because   it is my beloved country."
>  


    Only once in a while, I step in topics that are not related to S&TD
since my knowledge is limited.  However, this message from Khun Me Mann
is about human resourse.  And this is my cup of tea.

    Perhaps, one of the most important reasons why Thailand is her
beloved country, is that there are many poor people(mostly are farmers)
struggling for survival.  Such people have been paying taxing used for
building many infrastructures for more than eighth decades.  These
infrastuctures includes the educational system for the primary and
secondary level.  I believe that ,the Thai girl you mentioned, has
passed through these educational levels in Thailand.  She feels in debt
to Thai farmers who've never gotten better deals in their lives.  And
she wants to go back to Thailand to contribute whatever she could in
enhancing the standard of their living.  I admire her courage and strong
determination of going back to work in her motherland where job
satisfaction and no high financial reward can be expected.  It is this
type of person who can shoulder Thailand burden and gets many things
done to help develop our nation.

    Please bring my best regard to her.  Thanks.



 

Schitt(DJ)  Laowattana

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Thai Romanization....
From: <CHLBB@CUNYVM.BITNET> (Parames Laosinchai)
Date: Thursday, 3 Sep 1992 14:43:43 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

In article <9209031535.AA05098@icomp01.lerc.nasa.gov>,
fstawit@ICOMP01.LERC.NASA.GOV (Tawit Chitsomboon) says:
>
>This system of Thai romanization must be the hardest thing
>since the US personal income tax code :-)
>
>It is indeed very hard to remember. The problem compounds, with
>the use of 'oo' 'OO' 'ee' 'EE' which don't come anywhere close to
>the real English pronunciation. The only way to read this Thailish
>langauge is to have a printed page of the convention handy for comparison
>(at least in the beginning.) What I fear is, when i get use to it, it'll
>mess up my already clumsy English :-)

I agree that it is hard to remember.  However, if we try to remember it
systematically, it will be easier and not so messy.  Whenever we see the
doubled vowel, we should realize that it is a long sound and think of the
sound of that single vowel. 'o' and 'u' give the direct sounds.
'e' and 'i' give the short sounds of their English counterparts, as in
get and win.  'A' and 'O' give the short sounds of 'a' and 'o', as in
cat and dog.  'a', 'E', and 'U', well, remember them.

>Anyway, I should not make a big fuss out of this. Let's try it
>out for a while. I would like to nominate Khun Unalome to be
>the custodian of this treasure. Any of you who disagree with
>the nomination, please post :-) (Sorry, Khun Unalome, I see
>nobody more fit than you since your major is speech communication.
>This will help you polish your already excellent skill on this trade.)

If Khun Unalome has time to handle this, it would be great.

Parames Laosinchai

Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: meechan@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Korbkiat Meechan)
Subject: Number 191!!!
Originator: meechan@convex.csd.uwm.edu
Keywords: 191
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: soc.culture.thai 
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:40:46 GMT

           Sawadee 

       Many times that I have seen American police' cars rushing for any kind
of emergency, I then think back about 5 years ago when we started having the
emergency number "191" which even the kids knew what that number means.
Where is that special force(as called) now?...look like we haven't heard that
name for a long time.

       In 1988, as I remember, 191 dept. got the financial support from Japan
about 200 Mil-Bahts which was translated(I guess not all) in to high
technology equipments. Those were such as computers, automatic recording
mechine , communication system including the radio networks and many more.
I don't know if they used those equipments or if they knew how to used it.

       I wonder because I heard that they chose just all cute girls who
, almost of them, have a high-school degree( junior high, I guess). They are
all look nice, but some of them are brain-free. And their real works are
making coffee, having dinner and....with their bosses.

      Thus, the high-technology equipments would become rusty steel if they
are not worthly used. 

      There might be a lot more problems that I, or we, don't know. I write
this just to recall that we used to have that special force which people
depend on . But, it's gone!!.




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Xref: sparky soc.culture.thai:2580 comp.sys.mac.misc:15834
From: cooneys@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Miss "ngaw ngoo" in Mac Thai fonts
Date: 2 Sep 92 11:22:14 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

I was excited to find Thai fonts on mac.archive.umich.edu 
and  downloaded them last night. But today I discover that 
while they work beautifully, there is a missing letter! 
There's no "ngaw ngoo", despite the fact that the keyboard 
template supplied shows it where it ought to be. Does anyone 
know why, or how to fix this? Alternatively, is there 
another source for Thai fonts for the Mac, for those of us 
who don't have access to a whole Thai system?


               -- Seamus Cooney, Department of English, 
		  Western Michigan University, Kalamazoo, MI 49008
		  e-mail: COONEYS@wmich.edu
From: jgl7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Andrew T. Kim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Apology for FAQ Delay (And even further...)
Date: 1 Sep 92 03:05:49 GMT
Reply-To: jgl7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Andrew T. Kim)
Organization: Columbia University

Dear netters.

It has been a while since I promised that I would compose FAQ for s.c.k.
Unfortunately, becuase of my work, I really haven't had time to login and
to do anything recently.  Moreover, my wife came back from her trip to
Korea, which is a good news for me and a bad news for FAQ. :)

I am very sorry that I could not reply to the people who has showed support
and interest.  Although I haven't received any specific responce, but I
could see that there are enough people who want FAQ and willing to help
out.  Although I don't expect my time situation would get better any time
soon, I promise that you will hear from me again on this matter.  Since we
have lived so far without it, it wouldn't kill anyone, right?  Your
patience will be dearly appreciated.

Andrew 'This space reserved for middle name' Kim

P.S.  I just browsed through the s.c.k. first time after about 3 weeks.  It
doesn't look like I have missed much, meaning everything is fine and normal.

P.S. II. Mets traded David Cone to Jays...Where is the cyanide when you
         need 'em?  
	 Stop laughing, Terry.
From: dww@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Michael DWC Wong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: More on Mr.Dwight Joe's western ideas
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:21:06 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

And what dos Mr.Dwight Joe define as "western culture"?


Was nazism a manisfestation of the inherent racism and mutual racial in
western culture? The Nazis were Germans and they can be considered as
westerners. To me, then , westerners are just a herd of savage baboons, and
you, dick Joe, is one of them.

But fact is, at the height of Nazism in Germany with the genocide of
Jews, the majority of Germans did not really know what was ACTUALLY going on!
Most of the atrocities were engineered by the most powerful people of the
ruling party then. Also, the Germans then did not protest against the
Fruhrer's acts. Can we say that their "silence" meant condoning the 
massacre of the Jews?

So you see, it is all got to do with the system of government and not the people of any race or country as such.

The atrocities commited by Lenin and Stalin to the soviet people far 
outstrips that on the Tibetans. And what do you have to say about that?

Maybe you are just content to avoid the more pertinent isuue and dig out
little imperfections in other culture and focus your attack on it.
It just shows how much of a coward and moron you are.
YOU ARE A CHICKEN!! KPARK KPARK KPARK KPARK!!!!

I believe communicating with stupid people like you makes me stupid too.
So I refrain from further replies unless you have something more sensible to
say .

And one final word; I think the Chinese's emphasis on education is good.
Education means critical thinking, it encourages  self-determination, it 
brings about  democracy. Education is power. Although I still can not
understand how you can be so stupid even after an excellent education
as Stanford University.
Could you possess the stupi-ge?

The examples you cited about Chinese people and education  are not supported   with concrete facts (are you lying?)
. Even if they are, they are isolated cases. Every race has its
mentally ill and psychos.      

Just like you are a mentally ill patient of the Western cultured people.


Have a nice day.

Michael

-note that I changed my finger name
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: int177c@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Jae Won)
Subject: entertainment
Summary: Entertainment These Days in Korea..:)
Keywords: Ga-yo, young-hwa, te-le-vi, hehe... :)
Organization: Monash University
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 03:47:13 GMT

Okie, you all the Korean netter out there.
	I am tired of these political discussion that happens in this group. They are
all flames and boring indeed. It is about time we got some fun back into this
group(I think anyway). I mean, when I press 'k' after reading an article about
taiwan diplomacy stuff, I end up deleting half the articles in this group.

	I am just wondering what's happening in Korea entertainment world etc.
Would someone be kind enuff to post well...eg. top ten ga-yo list, interesting
dramas to see, interesting movies to watch...etc? I mean, I am sure there are
other netters who are willing to hear what's happening in the world of Korean
entertainment(which is very amusing sometimes...when I heard that Shim Shin was
going to Sahalin for a show as part of the South Korean delegates, I just had
to laugh..:)...please no flames from Shim Shin supporters...:)

	Anyway, chill out our people out there. Send us some jokes etc...make this
channel more interesting than just a political discussion stage...:)

	If you don't agree, don't flame me. Just keep sending those political posts
and I will just press the old 'k' everytime..:)

Jae Joon.




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From: junglee@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Jung S. Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean,soc.culture.asian.american,soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Everybody is a sexist (was Re: Chopstick-cu-ge-ci)
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:47:30 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.korean,soc.culture.asian.american,soc.culture.asean
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


************************* CUT HERE *************************************
Cindy.gif@##L:$KJ#!@LKjrwe#$^%ERYERY:KLJ#$^YDFBHLHDJK#$%L$:%^K%^&:LIK@#%
Q#$^$KJLO^:#"$^$%U?L:*%$&*${"P)&IO$K%L:HK<EDF?LFKM?^&>$K<@#*"W:OPLKIJTFd

Sigh!@@

Why don't you post this to every newsgroup instead s.c.k and other
asian newsgroups? Is it because YOU THINK Asian people do sexually
discriminate women more often than western civilized gentlemen(vomit).
If that wasn't your reason, perhaps you could find more adequate
newsgroups to talk about.

Jung S. Lee
From: hnkst2+@pitt.edu (Hanhwe N Kim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Kisaeng and Mudang (was Re: More Cultural Questions...)
Keywords: "The Grass Roof"
Date: 4 Sep 92 03:38:00 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Sep3.194042.21840@midway.uchicago.edu> deb5@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>	the Kumoonko (a musical instrument) 
I don't know the transcription but it's pronounced guh-moon-go.
I've never seen one for myself but I think it is a stringed instrument
played with a bow.

>	Also, are there any survivals of the kisaeng and mudang (Korean
>geisha and female shaman, respectively) in modern Korea?  

You won't find any 'real' kisaeng anymore.  Basically they were
expensive courtesans. The lower class Kisaeng were basically
prostitutes/bar-maids, but the highest class kisaeng engaged in
many of the arts as well. Hwang-jin(aka 'Bright Moon') was a famous 
Kisaeng who is also well-known for her poetry as well.
The social status of even the highest class of kisaeng was never too high 
and compared to the amount of work, it never was a very rewarding
profession. They died out during the early 20th century I think.

But there are plenty of Mudang. The shaman skills (mediating for spirits, 
various divination) are hereditary, but sometimes people who have otherwise 
been leading mundane lives might start being haunted by spirits and voices, 
and become a mudang. Haven't seen it happen to anyone close but I've heard
about it happening to friends of friends.
-Han
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean,soc.culture.asian.american,soc.culture.asean
From: garyh@sco.COM (< Gary H >)
Subject: Re: China/Chua, KhengHwa/Re: An open letter to Emperor Akihito of Japan
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 19:43:31 GMT


In article <1992Aug19.233849.19256@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
!
!I'm still waiting for the Chinese to apologize for the 100 million
!people that they killed.
!
!>[stupidity deleted]

Basically, you're saying, kiss my butt and I'll kiss yours.  You want
the Chinese to apologize FIRST before the Japanese can apologize for their
killings in World War II.  From your post, it seems like you are trying to
justify Japan's killing of innocent Chinese civilians .. Why? Why do you 
have such a negative view of life, especially that of chinese people, culture,
etc?  It just seems that your life is full of unhappy events.  For example,
you can't even forget about your bad experience at Capitol Toyota.  You got
so obessed with them that you used them as part of your sig...

>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Seikatsu no imi wa nan desu ka.            \|  |`      | Don't buy from Toyota;
>Shitte itara oshiete kuremasen ka.          | -+-      | especially, don't buy
>                                           /| / \      | from Capitol Toyota in
>Copyright 1992.                                        | San Jose, California.
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
           
I don't know what the story is with you can Capitol Toyota (maybe they forgot
to give you floormats? 8-) ), but do you have take anything remotely to your
disliking as a personal vendetta?

g

Ps.  Hey, did you know Toyota's are JAPANESE cars??? Pretty cool, eh?


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean,soc.culture.asian.american,soc.culture.asean
From: dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Subject: What?-Cindy Crawford (was Re: Everybody is a sexist)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 02:10:02 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Maryland, College Park

In article <Aug.27.16.47.30.1992.15126@gandalf.rutgers.edu> junglee@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Jung S. Lee) writes:
>
>************************* CUT HERE *************************************
>Cindy.gif@##L:$KJ#!@LKjrwe#$^%ERYERY:KLJ#$^YDFBHLHDJK#$%L$:%^K%^&:LIK@#%
>Q#$^$KJLO^:#"$^$%U?L:*%$&*${"P)&IO$K%L:HK<EDF?LFKM?^&>$K<@#*"W:OPLKIJTFd
>
>Sigh!@@

	Sigh!
	That looks like corrupted uuencode'ed gif file
	of Cindy Crawford from a.b.p.e.

	Anyone has Jung Yunhee's scanned/captured image file
	(any format - gif/jpeg/tiff/pcx/... )?
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: yewang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Yenwen Wang)
Subject: Re: Korean diplomacy twds. China
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 01:43:49 GMT

In article <78246@ut-emx.uucp> zing@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Leon Z. Lee) writes:
>
>If it is any consolation to the ROC, Korea has been a faithful ally
>with the Chinese for the past 50 years...which is the best track record
>than any other nation could come close to.  Remember how the British dumped
>the ROC in order to keep their colony of HK, remember how Japan dumped
>the ROC to secure better investments on the mainland, remember how the
>US dumped the ROC to use mainland china as a pawn in the Cold War ?
>Given this record....the Koreans have been more than faithful and
>patient with the ROC.
>

Remember Britain and Japan are not divided countries. I mean, there is
a N. Korea there pulling the leg of Mainland China. It has been reported
that China is not THAT interested in this diplomatic relationship( or
appears to be so). It's been S. Korea who takes the initiatives.

Also ever since ROC got kicked out of UN, the then President of ROK,
Park Chun Hee, decided to pursue a policy similar to that of Japan.
IMHO, the track record isn't that great. And it was maintained at
best reluctantly on ROK's part.

Yenwen Wang


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From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean,soc.culture.asian.american,soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Dwight Joe (Re: An open letter to Emperor Akihito of Japan)
Date: 23 Aug 92 16:08:41 GMT
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

yunson@lpf.umd.edu (Yunson Du) writes:
: Dear netters:
: 
: There is no point arguing with that person. He said what he
: wanted to say. Just leave him alone, and he will shut up.
and miss the chance to learn more. If we cannot convince him, how can
we convince the other Japanese.
	Is he Japanese?
He has given me insights into why the Emperor is not allowed to apologise to
China for the Nanking massacre.
: 
: An advice to Dwight: please spend some money to get some
: education and learn how to discuss with others. I should 
: say you are not discussing, you are pouring all your stupidity
: into the net. I hope you will take my advice. After all, 
: everybody here know you perfectly well now.

On the contrary. He sounds intelligent to me. If you think he is stupid,
how about all the other Japanese. Most Japanese are quiet people and very
sensitive. They would rather do rather tahn argue.
	In fact the danger with Japan is that they are too smart.
	China is the immediate threat to asean but they are not that competent.
They cannot even beat Vietnam easily, at least in Vietnam. They are also trying
to become democratic.

--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean,soc.culture.asian.american,soc.culture.asean
From: eln314m@monu1.cc.monash.edu.au (Ms ML Hong)
Subject: Re: China/Chua, KhengHwa/Re: An open letter to Emperor Akihito of Japan
Organization: Monash University, Australia.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 07:35:40 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.044731.300@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>, eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:
> he uses the term chinese-cu and I'm sure there are a lot of genetically pure
> chinese who do not behave like the chinese-cu, and you must agree with that.
> 
> You should understand the literal meaning of his statements. Do not try to
> imagine other scenarious, if you want to continue a more intellectual 
> discussion.
> 

  Oh good! Here is possibly someone who understands what Dwight Joe means by
Chinese-cu. Althought I have asked for clarification before, I am still very
confused. I do not know what sort of literal meaning I should attach to this
term. It doesn't seem to be referring to the culture, like dances, art, music, 
values etc unique to the Chinese which I initially thought was what he meant. 
Please enlighten me if it is not too much trouble. I couldn't figure it out 
with my dictionary.
(Please forgive me. English was my second language in school).

Mun Li


  
> --
> Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
> Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
> Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
> Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet
> 


Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung)
Subject: Re: Korean diplomacy twds. China
Organization: Alchemy International
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 23:30:12 GMT

In article <78246@ut-emx.uucp> zing@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Leon Z. Lee) writes:
>
>This incident is interesting one respect....and that is news reports
>indicating that S. Korea will recognize the PRC in order to facilitate
>reunification talks with N. Korea.  Does this mean that the PRC has
>a direct say in the reunification of Korea ?  I always thought that
>Korean Reunification was not dependent upon the approval of another
>foreign power.  Can anyone elaborate ?

	Not a direct say, but a big influence.  PRC is the only remaining
major communist country in the world and as such has a big influence in
DPRK's policy making.  (Well, PRC has always been a pretty big influence
but now more than ever.)  My personal opinion is that the Korean (ROK) 
government is trying to have PRC exert pressure on DPRK to be more 
"cooperative."  


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