From: thorntn@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Duncan Peter G. Thornton)
Subject: Re: You're a racist! statements
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 06:38:29 GMT

In <1992Oct5.223118.7016@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca (CHRISTIAN D. ARMOUR) writes:


>In article <1992Oct4.221135.29452@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, thorntn@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Duncan Peter G. Thornton) writes:
>>> In <1992Oct2.000441.27536@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca (CHRISTIAN D. ARMOUR) writes:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> >Toronto, Ont. Canada) about supporting the bid for the ISU (International
>>> >Space University).  All the peaceniks have hijacked the process screaming
>>> >claims that we're about to become an arm of the US military-industrial
>>> >alliance.  Of course this is bullshit; the US military would never fund
>>> >anything at a university where the faculty/student bodies could include
>>> >Cubans, Chinese, Iraqis or worse still, Canadians.
>>> 
>>> Jesus, does that leave any universities at all?

>	You're not getting it.  The students at this ISU would not
>	have to give up their nationalities, hence the use of the
>	word "international".  These people would remain subjects
>	of their respective countries, which would not be too
>	attractive to the US military.
> 

You're not getting it. Are there any decent universities in the world
that don't allow foreign students (not immigrants, people in the
country simply to study)? By the way, as a further clue that you're
talking out of your ass, even the US military isn't as
narrow-minded as you are; it's funded lots of projects at Canadian
Universities - ask Project Ploughshares to send you the facts. Not
everything useful to the US military has a big red "Top Secret"
stamp on it. The ISU may or may not be a project the US military
would like to have a big thumb in, but you're not making much
of a case.

>>> >                                              If someone were to make
>>> >a perfectly legitimate statement like: "Science is science; there is no
>>> >such thing as 'military' science", they'll tar and feather you.
>>> 
>>> So then, the US military would never fund anything anywhere anyway,
>>> 'cause there's no such thing as military science?

>	Oh?  Wasn't the jet engine a military invention (WW2, Germany)?
>	Weren't the first roads built for military purposes?  Weren't
>	microwaves, sonar and radar originally militarily funded?

So there _is_ such a thing as military science; you were wrong. Of
course, you are right to point out that military science often has civilian
applications, but so what? By your logic we should have been happy that
the German military was working of jet aircraft. And thank goodness for
the V2; if only they'd gotten that working sooner.

>>> >I notice that you're posting from Texas.  It would indeed be a shame if
>>> >bicycle-riding marxists have now started invading that bastion of the
>>> >right.  
>>> 
>>> Hey, C. Armour-Kidson, I'm sorry; it wasn't until this last 
>>> paragraph that I realized you were satirizing the position
>>> of paranoid right-wing losers. Try using more smilies.

>	Guess again.  I'm one of those right-wing losers.  To us,
>	you're a loser.

Gosh, how could I have made that mistake? By the way, I don't think
you're a loser because you're a right-winger, C. Armour-Kidson. Hell,
some of best friends are right-wingers. Well, some of my friends, 
anyway.

If you want to know why it's obvious you're a loser, think about this:
I'm not the one whining about how his life has been ruined by hippies
and coloured people; I don't have to complain or find scapegoats,
because my life is going just fine. Here's a hint, C. Armour-Kidson:
if things are as hard for you as you make out, it's not because you're
white.

                    
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