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From: essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum)
Subject: Dunlop HP41
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:21:22 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

anone ever hear of/use these tires?  local tire guy recomended these over
GT+4's for performance.  my selection is somewhat limited since i want
something around 255/60R15.  i'm concerned primarily with performance
(dry #1, but wet/snow too).  cost and mileage are not major concerns.

axel
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: minnebo@probe.acs.oakland.edu (Brian P. Minnebo)
Subject: Re: Tires and rims for Dodge Stealth R/T.
Summary: correction
Keywords: Stealth, tires, wheels
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:10:14 GMT

I write:

>I love my Goodyear Eagle M+S tires.  In fact, they are the only goodyear
>eagles that I will buy (I have gator backs).

Hmm, although I do *have* gator-backs, I meant to say "I hate gator backs".

>Brian
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: jnielsen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John F Nielsen)
Subject: Re: Survey impartiality (was Re: Profits to Japan?)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 17:34:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.214504.19231@newsgate.sps.mot.com> mark@wdcwdc.sps.mot.com (Mark Shaw) writes:
>
>>Frankly, yes.  This is not as unbelievable as it sounds.  A very
>>thought-provoking discussion on this subject took place in the
>>rec.autos hierarchy several months ago.  In case you missed it, here is
>>a recap (as I remember it):
>
>>............ stuff deleted...........


Just becaue you had a thought provoking discussion, ti doesn't mean
the conculsion was correct.

If you think the results of the questionaire in CU are baised against
Americans and for Japanese because we are essenitally told by society
how to think about our car then:

Why is it that in CU just about Toyota cars(Celicas, Corollas, Camrys)
uniformaly are black in ratings for reliablilty of their exhaust
systems? **IF what you are saying is true then their should not be a
pattern such as this.**	The reason why it is plain and simple, Toyota
exhasut systems rust out.  Take a look at the muffelers in some of the
87-88 Corollas or Chevy Novas, you'll see a lot of them are brand
knew.  Shouldn't the Japanese car owners have selectively deleted this
fault from their memory? 

Have you ever looked at the reliability ratings or just glanced and
decided everyone is baised because it does not show the results you
wished it would. 

Why is it that the Ford Crown Victora had great reliability while the
Chevy Caprice Sucked? At the time(late 80's) they were very similar and
very American. Did these Ford owners think the cars
were Japanese?

Same with Dodge Dakota(great reliability) vs. the Chevy trucks.

I bet I can go through the whole book and find contradictions which don't
coroborate with your theory.

john

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Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Top 20 Selling Vehicles of 1992
From: thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle)
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 06:35:31 GMT
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.

In article <92312.145740KANTOLA@NDSUVM1.BITNET> <KANTOLA@NDSUVM1.BITNET> writes:
>
>In article <1992Nov5.233244.18366@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>,
>fengxi@prancer.eche.ualberta.ca (Fengxi Zhou) says:
>>And the chances are that the four japanese cars are assembled in US or Canada.
>>I am not sure about Toyota pickups.
>
>So, where exactly do all the major profits go on these U.S. assembled cars??

Profits? US cars *lose* money as far as I can tell.

Probably means that the US manufacturers have to borrow off Japanese
banks... :-)

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From: virgo@metter.fmpmis.metter.com (Paul Virgo)
Subject: Sticks are great--if they've got HP/Torque to back it up!
Summary: I would enjoy stick in a 'Stang,F-body,Spirit R/T...
Keywords: My current RP likes stick--drives a Hyundai...
Organization: Metters Industries, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:28:12 GMT


With the tranny war between Drew,Torque Monger(A. Tovornik),and others,
thought I'd stick my neck on the chopping block.

I think sticks are great if I'm driving a car with some oomph to it,or
at least with a good horsepower curve('Stangs,F-bodies,the Dodge R/T's-Spirit
and Daytona,'Vette,300ZX apply here--sorry if I missed your particular fave
car). Otherwise--well--does nuthin' fer me. Now my RP has been practicing
on my cousin's Hyundai,which is stick,and she's ecstatic. She enjoys the
*feel* of shifting and the winding out of the motor. I can appreciate that.

As for autos, I like them because I have to do ALOT of commuting through
our nation's capital,and it's pure HELL doing it with a stick(IMHO--others
are not as bothered). I enjoy my auto in my 3.0 V6 Acclaim,and when I feel
a bit racy, I just give a quick pump to ye' olde throttle--and *poomph*--
I'm outta' here!


So,in conclusion, both transmissions have their benefits/detriments. 
Though my RP likes stick, she likes driving my car because she can just
floor the pedal and go(well,she REALLY likes the V6's power). Guess it
depends on your taste.

Next week, my 3.0 V6 Acclaim goes up against my pal's 3.1 V6 Cavalier Z-24.
Yeah,yeah, I know the outcome, but I have a 3-spd auto with good shifts--so...

d.j. NetBoy
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Arlington, VA 22202
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From: dclayton@bnr.ca (Don Clayton)
Subject: Re: Japanese "inspections" (was Re: GM's sickness)
Reply-To: dclayton@bnr.ca (Don Clayton)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 13:32:08 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.162240.2792@exu.ericsson.se>, lmcstst@noah.ericsson.se (Stamos Stamos) writes:
|> >
|> >Second, the US standards are *far* stricter than Japanese standards in
|> >pollution and safety measures. So if a car (ANY car) can be certified in
|> >the US it is very likely it can meet anyone else's standards.
|> >
|> >Unfortunately, (up until recently at least), Japanese insisted on inspecting
|> >INDIVIDUAL cars. Winning this 'concession' was hailed as a major achievment
|> >of last year's presidential trip.
|> >
|> >Spiros (own opinions, of course :-))
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> Well two can play at that game.
|> Why doesn't the US insist on inspecting EVERY individual Jap car??
|> (and in typical Japanese fashion assign only one inspector)
|> 
|> Stamos <lmcstst@noah.ericsson.se>            ZZR11            Ellas
|> Ericsson, Cellular Design
|> Montreal, Canada.

Ya, why not?!?  You've already done it to Canadian beef, so you're god at it
and had lot's of practice.  Gee, if you can screw us, why can't you screw
them?!?

I hope that was sarcastic enough :)

Don Clayton
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From: frank@marvin.contex.com (Frank Perdicaro)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Analog Brake Light
Keywords: brake light deceleration
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:45:06 GMT
Organization: Xyvision Design Systems

In article <4467@news.chips.com> deanf@chips.com (Dean Frazier) writes:
>Has anyone seen or heard of a brake light system that indicates the degree
>of deceleration of the vehicle?   Maybe a different number of lights, or
>increasing light intensity, or flashing lights, etc.
>
Yeah, some CA co called Cyberlight.  

Illegal for installation on motor vehicals registered in MA, and
plenty more states.

For info, try reading the Cycle magazines from 1980 to 1990.
Somewhere in there they did a review; there are also some ads.

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From: cf947@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Chun-Hung Wan)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Are there any Luxary AWD?
Date: 12 Nov 1992 08:37:32 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cf947@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Chun-Hung Wan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, eb2b+@andrew.cmu.edu (Edward Rosales Bella) says:

>I was just wondering what type of Luxary cars are out on the market
>today which would be good in the Snow.  I know there was the BMW 325IX
>but since they are not producing those anymore what is out there?  send
>e-mail to: eb2b@andrew.cmu.edu or post to the board.
>
>Thanks, 
>
>Ed
>
How about the Subaru SVX?  It's not a full sports car but a luxury one as
well with full time AWD.  Although I have not driven this yet, the reports
on the car seem very favorable.
-- 
A motion picture major at the Brooks Institute of Photography, CA
Santa Barbara and a foreign student from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

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From: tedebear@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen)
Subject: Re: Mazda Protege: Problem with engaging 1st and rev. gear.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 22:10:05 GMT


i also have occasional difficulty in engaging 1st and reverse in
my integra.  i just shove it into one of the forward gears
and then it goes into 1st/reverse easily when i try again (without
releasing the clutch).  the idea is to use the greater mechanical
advantage of higher gear synchros to slow down the shafts spinning
inside your transmission.  i always select a forward gear before going
to reverse since my car doesn't have synchros in reverse gear.
if you occasionally get grinding noises when you go to reverse, try this.
-teddy
From: ant@galadriel.bt.co.uk (Antony Espindola)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Car theft protection my way.
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:41:12 GMT
Organization: Data and Business Comms, BT Labs, Martlesham, Ipswich, UK.

From article <1992Nov5.151226.11528@bsu-ucs>, by 01ksdavis@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Rebel without a clue.):
> 
> 	If you were of mechanical inclination, all you would really have to do 
> is remove your steering wheel.  Ain't no thief dumb enough to try to steal a
> car he can't steer.

Ha! That reminds me of when we stopped an Irish bloke at a check point
in Northern Ireland.
When I looked inside the car, he was driving it with a spanner on
the centre column !

Maybe if you removed the steering rods.....


Antony.
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik)
Subject: Re: MBZ mpg
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 01:07:07 GMT

In article AA00139@slate.cs.rochester.edu, mucit@cs.rochester.edu () writes:
>
>What kind of mpg would a 80-82 Mercedes Benz 300 Diesel get?  For what kind
>of hp?  Are those engines known to last very long?  

Good milage 
Low on HP
High on torque
Slow on acceleration
Lasts very long...Some have logged over one million miles 
without an engine rebuild(BULLETPROOF!)

Torque Monger
From: dcg@mogun.UUCP (David Gunsul)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Ethanol blended gasoline
Summary: eco-nazis's out of control
Date: 8 Nov 92 23:40:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hotrods `R' Us, Montgomery, IL

In article <1992Nov3.200120.15927@cbnewsi.cb.att.com>, ca@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (christopher.arnone) writes:
> > 
> 
> What's worse is that after Clinton's
> election today, a four year assault on the automobile and everything associated
> with it will begin.  I think its going to get real bad, and this shit gas that
> doesn't really help cut pollution is just the beginning.  Like I said, I think
> that the next four years are going to be REAL BAD when it comes to cars.  When
> I look at auto magazines that describe the cars & light trucks that auto 
> manufacturers are planning to introduce over the next 4-5 years, I wonder
> what the hell these people are thinking.  Personally, I think that we'll all
> be driving Geos in a few years..........

As sad as this sounds it's very true.

First they'll destroy the newer performance cars (74-92) with strict
emissions tests then they're going to try to get rid of the 
classics.


If you're interested in fighting this Chris, you should think
about joining the National Muscle Car Association they have
been fighting against this kind of crap for the last few years now
and can use all the help they can get.



> Chris

                      
                                          
                     
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Xref: sparky rec.autos:26662 rec.autos.driving:6589
From: mchaffee@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (REAL LIFE?!?!  HA!!)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: How To Drive the RIGHT way!
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:39:44 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:


>In a previous article, blu@cellar.org (Dan Reed) says:

>>
>>                   High Speed driving Tips, by Dan Reed
>>                                 (Humor)
>sadly..it seems some havn't read this line.....

>>  This file will help you be a better driver on the great road spans in
>>the US.  If you follow these simple rules, you will be a safer driver,
>>and other drivers will thank you for it.
>> 
>> [sarcastic and sadly true commentary on American drivers]
>> 
>>I hope you find these tips as useful as most of the drivers in America do..
>> 
>>Happy motoring.
>>

>very nice!!..not only did i laff.i cried...it is very nice!...good job!..
>another..
>#?.  if someone pulls out to pass you, on any size road, be it four lane,
>two lane, sixteen lanes, you must, repeat MUST immediately FLOOR it in
>order to keep them from passing you too fast, and, if possible, you should
>stop the crazy fool from passing you AT ALL, so that, when he/she gives up
>and pulls back in behind you, you can be the fine, upstanding citizen again,
>and slow down to at LEAST 5 mph UNDER the posted limit in perfect weather
>conditions so as to keep the idiot from provoking the Coppers..you are
>doing that poor, ignorant fool a great, indespesible favour!

And I would also like to add:  If you are driving along on a road, again of
any size, and you approach a car going slower than yourself, move left to
pass, and then as soon as your front bumper is just even with the back of their
door(s), FOR GODS SAKE SLOW DOWN TO EXACTLY THE SPEED OF THE CAR YOU WERE PAS-
SING!!!  Sit out there, right where the guy you're passing can't really see
you, for a minute or longer, or at least until you think he's forgotten you.
Now continue to wait.  Before long, the driver on your right will do something
rude, namely speed up or slow down.  He's trying to lose you!  So adjust your
speed accordingly to stay right in his blind spot some more.  Now, after about
ten minutes of speed matching, zoom forward, preferably with extended digit,
and pull in front of that rude person you just passed.  Slow down ten miles per
hour or more.

Sometimes I wish my car had an on-board howitzer.....


>DREW
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From: carl@Cayman.COM (Carl Heinzl)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Info wanted on leasing vs buying
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:57:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org's message of 4 Nov 92 18:51:19 GMT
bcc: carl


>One of the biggest drawbacks is that most leases require you to have
>more insurance than a loan contract requires (i.e. lower or no
>deductibles for collision, theft, comprehensive, etc.) You may very
>well end up paying more for the extra insurance than the difference
>saved in buying. This happened to one of my co-workers with a '91
>Nissan Maxima he leased.

Very individual.  *IF* I had done the Nissan lease I would not have
had to pay one penny more for insurance.  They would have let me go up
to $1000 deductible (which is more deductible that I have).  Same for
my Acura lease (which I *do* have), not one extra piece of insurance.

On of the biggest statements/dislikes about leases is that people
claim, "You don't own anything at the end of the lease".  Well, *most*
leases give you an option to purchase the car at the residual value at
the end of the lease which means that you have been effectively buying
the car all along.  

What it (leasing) *does* give you is the option to walk away, which is
similar to buying the car, selling it and using the selling price to
pay off the loan.  With the lease you don't have to worry about
putting an ad in the paper and having a bunch of assholes call you up
and give you a hard time (apologies to the reasonable people who *do*
buy used cars but I ran into some real winners recently when I was
selling my used card).

The moral of the story is that these things vary from manufacturer to
manufacturer, from state to state and possibly even finer grained than
that, although I *will* say that all the Nissan leases seemed to be
equal and all the Acura leases seemed to be equal with other competing
dealers of the respective manufacturers.

Can a lease get you in trouble, definitely.  So can the *purchase* of
any major item like this.  If everyone uses common sense the a lot of
these problems can be avoided.

-Carl-
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From: jlg@zycor.lgc.com ()
Subject: Camaro or Daytona?
Originator: jlg@marvin.zycor.lgc.com
Organization: Landmark/Zycor  (Austin TX)
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:23:14 GMT

>Article 85314 (909 more) in rec.autos:
>Subject: BETTER? 92 Camaro or 92 Iroc Daytona?????
>Message-ID: <1992Nov3.142608.2695@brandonu.ca>
>From: $sawchukjr@brandonu.ca
>Date: 3 Nov 92 14:26:07 CST
>Organization: Brandon University, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada
>Lines: 13
>
>I am thinking of purchasing a brand new car.  I have narrowed it
>down to either a '92 Chevy Camaro or a '92 Dodge Iroc Daytona.
>The Iroc Daytona I am looking at only has the 3.0 L V6.
>As for the Camaro, it would either have a 305 ci V8 or a 3.1 L V6.
>I think a V6 in a big Camaro would be pretty poor on power, yet
>good on gas.
>Anyway, I would like your opinions as to which car would be better,
>and more importantly, which one would have a higher resale value in
>about 3 years.  Please E-mail any responses.  It would be greatly
>appreciated.  Thanks!!!
>
>Jason

Third generation Camaros ('82-'92) have never had door mounted
seatbelts.  Air bags have been standard since 1990.  My opinion
is get a V8 Camaro.  The power and torque are a whole lot better.
Of course the TPI 305 (available in Z28) is a whole lot better
than the TBI 305 in the RS.   However, Z28's cost more and have
higher insurance.  I have seen some great buys on 305 RS Camaros
lately.  On the highway gas mileage with my '87 TPI 305 is almost 
25mpg.  You might also want to consider waiting for the '93 Camaros
since '92 Camaros might be pretty slim pickings by now.   

If you are at all performance oriented, the Camaro is the way to
go.  Tons of aftermarket parts are available for the small block
Chevy and late model Camaros.  Back when I got my '87 TPI IROC-Z
Camaro, I had first been impressed with the Turbo Daytona which I 
had the opportunity to drive for a week.  However when it came time 
to buy my own car, the awesome power, looks, and handling of the 
TPI powered IROC-Z Camaro won hands down.

The only reason I would choose the Daytona over the '92 Camaro is 
if I had to drive the vehicle on slippery (ice, snow) roads.  '93
Camaros might have traction control and ABS.


John Gravell

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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik)
Subject: Re: Stick VS Auto.
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 02:53:30 GMT

In article wmPZTB1w164w@cellar.org, blu@cellar.org (Dan Reed) writes:
>Ok, I prefer a stick over an auto ANYDAY!  They are flat out more fun to 
>drive... HOWEVER...
>
>autos should be used by ..
>
>A> "new" drivers.  Learning the road with an auto can make one a bit more at 
>ease.. as its one less thing you must do.  Later like a year or so down the 
>road.. learn stick..
>
>B> Old folks.  Less reflexs, more movement, perhaps hip problems...
>
>C> People who are in traffic most of the time.
>
>D> People who just dont ENJOY driving, or having TOTAL control over thier 
>car.
 
E> The Handicapped, paralysed, or left leg amputees.

Torque Monger

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