From: hubey@pilot.njin.net (Hubey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: ERBAKAN HOCA ve EKONOMIK PROGRAMI (Islamcilardan secmeler)
Date: 21 Dec 92 23:07:58 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Dec21203635.AA43543@me.unda.edu> kg+02@me.unda.edu (Kaya Guralp) writes:

>  Ilginc olan nokta, Necmettin Erbakan'in iddiali demeclerine karsin
>  Refah Partisinin herhangi bir ekonomik politikasinin olmamasidir.

Why should he have one ? It's a lot easier to criticize. If you
come out with a concrete plan than you give everyone a chance to
criticize your plans. If no one asks Erbakan what his plans are then
a) no one knows--possibly including himslef or his advisors if he has
any

b) they know but they don't want to say--this could be dangerous.
Since it could imply that some people are going to try their pet
experiments on a nation of 60 guinea pigs. Castro and his ilk
did these experiments on the citizens of their countries for years
before giving up.

c) Erbakan and his advisors know but his followers think they know.
This is also an ideal situation for Erbakan. If and when he takes
power, no one can say that he promised anything. If the people
imply that he did imply certain things, the blame will go to the
hocas who spoonfed the hungry and illiterate masses whatever they
wanted to hear.

This is the worst case scenario. This usually follows after a 
campaign of generalized promises of the type communists promised
in the x-M-L states. No one can deliver but no one can criticize 
anyone of making empty promises. In this case, it will be even
easier than the USSR. Anyone who opposes the 'Islamic Government'
can immediately be accused of being anti-God,anti-Mohammed, 
anti-Islam,anti-Caliph, pro-West, pro-Communist, pro-xxxxx.

Finally, no modern system can do without interest. It exists in
Saudi Arabia despite protestations to the contrary. It's simply
called 'commission'. Such ingenuity :-)..


>  Faizi, bankaciligi kaldirmayi amac edinen islamci hareket, yapici olmaktan 
>  ote, yikici bir nitelik tasimaktadir. Ayrica, yikici imajini yikacak,
>  yapici bir politika gudecek dinamizme de sahip degildir. Cunku Turkiye,

No state can operate without an accounting of money. Accounting
requires computations in which interest plays an irreplaceable
role.  State planning cannot be done without interest rates and
without controlling the inflation rate.


>  Suudi Arabistan ve Iran orneginde oldugu gibi, ekonomisi buyuk yeralti
>  zenginliklerine dayanan bir ulke degildir ve bu ulkelere benzer bir yaklasim
>  bir anda Turkiye'nin sermaye birikimini ortadan kaldiracaktir. Olan
>  sermayenin erimesi bir yana, sermayenin disariya kacmasi ve dis sermayenin
>  yokolmasi soz konusudur. Bu yuzden, RP ve Islamci hareket, zaten zorda
>  olan Turkiye ekonomisi icin buyuk bir tehlikedir, yapici olmaktan ote
>  bozucu ve alternatif getiremeyecek bir sistemdir.

If the present trends continue, Saudi Arabia and Iran might play the
role of Spain a few hundred years ago. The massive influx of
silver and gold upset the delicate balance of society and power.
Everyone wanted to become boss and there no one left to do any work
except mercenaries. Spain went into a tailspin.  The same
thing could happen to Iran and Saudi Arabia and all the oil
states. Sooner or later the oil will run out and they will be
left with a bunch of people who all want to be bosses.

The fact that Turkey does not depend on artificial wealth could
be a blessing in disguise in the long run. The people will learn
to stand on their own feet instead of relying on the state or God.
The effects will be seen soon in the next century.

Besides all that, if Turkey now turned away from the WEst, where
would they go ? Iran ? Saudi Arabia? Russia ? China ? India ?

How much could they prosper with Saudi Science and Iranian
technology ?  Iranian economists and Chinese roadbuilders ?
Is there a need to go on ????
-- 

	mark	


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