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From: davids@gardener.lanl.gov (David Simmons)
Subject: Re: The Puppy from Hell
Originator: davids@feynman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:25:10 GMT


In article <1992Jul24.174444.11289@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, millios@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (william.l.millios) writes:
|> Ok, I knew I wasn't long on patience, but *this* has gone
|> too far.
|> 
|> In the space of 2 days, my puppy has learned:
|> 1) that if she runs at a very specific angle, and rebounds
|> off the deck seat (which is nailed into place, hence cannot
|> be moved) she can make it over the fence
|> 
|> 2) that if she pees her crate, I immediately let her out of
|> the crate (to clean it, of course); therefore, when she wants
|> to come out of the crate, she pees in it.
|> 
|> I have dealt with the first problem by totally blocking off
|> that section of the fence (when you take into account the
|> seat, the height of the fence is effectively 12 inches).
|> 
|> How do I deal with the second problem?  I am getting tired
|> of cleaning the crate, the floor, etc.  I had to clean it
|> 3 times last night, and 3 times the night before.  
|> 
|> It's not a question of she can't hold it, because sometimes
|> she's only in there for 30 minutes.  On the other hand, she
|> holds it all day while I'm at work.  It's only when I'm
|> *there* that she does it.
|> 
|> Help, O Oracle.
|> 
|> Bill

Sounds like you've (inadvertently) reinforced the "pee in the crate, get
let out" behavior.  Next time she pees in the crate, leave her in there
for some length of time.  The old "you made your bed, now lie in it"
approach.  If you *stop* reinforcing the behavior of letting her out
if she pees in the crate, and *start* reinforcing the other behavior,
she will follow.  With puppies, positive reinforcement works MUCH
better than negative, so rather than punish her for the "bad" behavior,
reward her for doing what you want.  In our house, we have 3 levels of
reaction "SUPER dog!" for good beahvior, NO REACTION to negative behavior
designed to simply get our attention, and "NO!" for destructive or
clearly not allowed behavior.

'fer instance:  When you let your puppy out of the crate and she HASN'T
peed in it, give her LOTS of praise.  If you let here out and she HAS
peed, then no reaction (remember the 3 second rule--if you can't correct
the behavior within 3 seconds of its occurance, wait till next time because
the puppy won't connect the correction with the behavior).  Keep at it, 
and she'll figure it out.  

The most important thing is to be CONSISTENT with her.  Leave no doubt
about what is good and what is bad.  It should never change (ie, getting
on the sofa is sometimes okay, sometimes not will confuse the puppy).

Good luck!
-- 

David G. Simmons		"There's no problem so awful that you can't
davids@lanl.gov			 add some guilt to it and make it even worse!"
						-Calvin
If I said it, LANL didn't...

-- 

David G. Simmons		"There's no problem so awful that you can't
davids@lanl.gov			 add some guilt to it and make it even worse!"
						-Calvin
From: lpj@col.hp.com (Laura Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Behaviour problem: Dog pretends he hasn't heard and slinks off
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:30:37 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

tcox@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu (Tony Cox) writes:
> 
> 	Recently, he has discovered that human night vision isn't up to much,
> and so will lurk in the shadows and pretend he hasn't heard the call. Worse,
> he will ignore me and just slink off. No amount of shouting or stern words
> will bring him back.
> 
> 	Of course, he comes back after an hour or so, full of smiles. How
> does one discipline the dog then? Clearly, the pea-brain has forgotten all

You can't; even if he remembers, you run the risk of his deciding he's being
disciplined for coming back (VERY bad).

You have to catch him ignoring you (e.g.  he thinks you can't see
him, but you can), then RUN AFTER HIM, catch him and discipline
him sharply.  

My Irish setter used to "test" me in this way every few weeks.  I
got to where I would set her up by waiting till she looked kind
of inattentive, BUT was close enough to catch, then calling her
in the normal way.  If she ignored me, she got the Bad Dog
routine but good, and would snap back to obedience for the next
several days or weeks.  This method seems to be working: The
episodes of "testing" are getting farther and farther apart, and
less extreme (if she's out of reach and ignoring me now, I say
"NO" or "Don't ignore me" [threatening tone] and she *always*
comes back now; even this occurs quite rarely).  

Good luck!

-Laura
-- 
lpj@hpctdls.col.hp.com
Opinions expressed are my own, but may be licensed for a nominal fee.
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From: mtlemmo@dcg.pacbell.com (Mark Lemmo)
Subject: Re: Akitas
Reply-To: mtlemmo@dcg.pacbell.com (Mark Lemmo)
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:04:18 GMT

 Kristina,

I have owned several Akitas. Currently I have an 8 month old female. On the whole I belive your choice 
is a great one!. Ronin ( the rouge samuri) will indeed protect family members but remember to have all 
the family do alpha rolls with him so that he is quite sure of the pecking order

The akita has been trained in Japan as a police dog in the '60's and bred for hunting and fighting for lots 
of years... As they get older (after 2 years or so) and depending on their degree of socialazation sp.? 
whit other dogs they will become dog aggressive...

The Akitas I have raised and trained from 6 weeks are not so dog aggressive, but will not back down 
from a challange and they seem to tolorate the oppisite sex better. We also have several cats and a 
rabbit, they all get along fine unless a cat happens to get to close to Madison ( the 8 month female 
Akita) while she has her favorite bone. she will not bark unless threated....
 
She gets along great with kids and she loves playing when the kids jump, push or pull her. Also I would 
have several people help feed Ronin from his dish (hand in dish, feed from hand etc..) so that he does 
not become food protective. 


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From: cotton@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (carol.jean.swanson)
Subject: Re: Cool Dog Tricks Needed
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:42:41 GMT
Keywords: dog tricks


I tried to post this earlier -- so
please forgive if it shows up twice.

Anyway, an easy but funny trick to try
is to make your dog bow.  We've been
teaching our dog Ginger to do this and
think its a riot.  She'll get down on her
front knees and stay up on her back ones.

Have Fun.
---Carol 
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From: Judy Conrad <judy@hpbsrl.boi.hp.com>
Subject: Need Recommendation for Rott Breeder
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:59:44 GMT
Organization: HP - NPR

Hello!

  I live in Boise Id and would like a recommendation 
for a Rottie breeder.  I'm looking for a temperment Rott.  It would be
great 
if the breeder was within a couple days drive of here.

Also, anyone have any opinions of Kimbertal Kennels in Pa.?

Thanks!

Judy Conrad
judy@hpbsrl.hp.com
From: cdm@pmafire.inel.gov (Dale Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Squamous Cell Carcinoma?
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:19:17 GMT
Organization: WINCO

In article <Bs0L26.LqE@well.sf.ca.us> casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton) writes:
>
>Treatment in dogs is *surgery*, if possible, with removal of the tumor *and*
>surrounding tissue and bone.  If the tumor recurs, radiation therapy is
>used.  If surgery is not possible, radiation therapy is *tried*.  UC Davis
>is working on a new radiotherapy technique which has been very successful,
>but surgery is always done first.

Depends on the type.  See below.

>
>WADR to the veterinary student, there is no connection between squamous
>cell ca. and ultraviolet light.  This cancer is more closely related to

Yes, there is.  See below.

>cervical cancer in women, and like that cancer, it is *suspected* that
>squamous cell carcinoma is the result of a virus.  That is the current
>thinking, but unproven.  Its cause can be considered to be unknown.
>
Undoubtably true for SOME types of sq. cell ca., but by no means all.
 
>Nor is it a "skin cancer".  There is a difference between mesothelioma
>(skin cancer) in humans and squamous cell carcinoma.  Squamous cell ca.
>is usually found in moist tissues--in the dog, that's mouth, eyes and
>genitals.

WADR, squamous cell carcinoma most certainly can be skin cancer.  It is
actually a cancer of the squamous cells, which are found in any epithelial
tissue.  This includes the areas you identify, but is most certainly NOT
limited to them.  It covers most of the internal surfaces of the body,
the organs, and the outer surface of the body (read: skin).  As you can 
see, squamous cells are found almost everywhere in the body. Squamous cell
ca. in the *skin* IS usually related to UV exposure.

For the record, mesothelioma is NOT skin cancer, it is cancer of the
mesothelium, which is the layer of squamous cells of the epithelium
which line the peritoneum (gut membrane), pericardium (heart membrane),
and pleura (lung membrane).

>-- 
>Kathleen Creighton                     {pacbell,hplabs,apple,ucbvax}!well!casey
>San Francisco                          casey@well.sf.ca.us
>       Just another annoyingly devoted Akita owner
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From: goc@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (joy.a.gochman)
Subject: Pot Pourri
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:42:38 GMT
Keywords: agility,stupid pet tricks,brag

Agility -
There is an agility show (USDAA) in Maryland on Oct 3,4.
I am planning on entering - i was wondering if any
rec.pets.dogers where also going to be there.

Brag -
Gizmo - Rhodesian Ridgeback (not whinny)- got her
Canadian CD. She is now .....
		gizmo UD,TT,TDI, Can CD

Stupid Pet Tricks -
Since she is not the most lovey dovey dog when
we do nusing home visits we depend on stupid pet
tricks to entertain.

		1) Balance dog bisket on nose 
		   then flip and eat before hiting the ground
		i.e 

		   Border Collie Method - flip bisket 10 feet up
		   in the air then jump to get it half way down.

		   Gizmo Method - move nose 1'' to left. Bisket will
		   slide down right side of nose. Move nose 1" to left
		   open mouth.

		2) Balance Ball  on nose and catch. See Above.

	 	3) Yawn on Command

		4) Play dead - takes about 5 bangs - and very slow
		( And here i thought she only did obedience slow).

		5) frisbee

		6) Bear saftey tips: (all done with hand signals)
			Walking in the woods
			
			1) See bear in distance  -  Stand Stay
			2) bear getting closer   - down stay
			3) Bear sees you - play dead
			4) All the above failed - beg


			joy gochman
			gizmo - "I want to get a SD title (sleeping dog)"
			skip - "where's that bear i'll get him"


-- 
					joy gochman
					mtdcb!joy
From: maurercj@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: HELP- Dog barks when I'm gone
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:57:51 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

 Has anyone had experience with the Barker Breakers advertised 
in Dog Fancy?  I would think that the irritating noise would
just irritate the dog into barking more.  

Just a curious thought,
Cathy
From: mledna@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Matt Ledna)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:56:29 GMT
Subject: Re: Dog Door Size?
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs

| Belgian Sheepdog and GSD owners --- do any of you have dog doors for
| your dogs?  If so, what flap size is adequate for these breeds?

  I have a big mutt (GSD/Golden - 90+ pounds) who gets in and out of a "large"
  Johnson doggie door at warp speed with no problems.

Matt Ledna
ledna@hppgpsc.pa.itc.hp.com
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From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Subject: Re: Have New Puppy, now what?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:00:32 GMT
Keywords: new puppy

gburges@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Garry Burgess) writes:
>I have had a new puppy now for about 3 hours (German Shep. 8 wks old), and
>I would like some advice from the "experts" as to how to train it.  I have
>never owned a dog before, so I don't have the first clue as to how to
>train and care for this animal, but I am willing to learn.

>I have 3 young excited daughters, so the dog doesn't lack for attention,
>that is for sure.  It seems that he will be played with most of the day. 
>I would like a friendly pet, that would also guard my property when I'm
>not home.  

>What should I do now, and what are the things that I should be thinking
>about in the next few weeks.
*----
There's no way to give all the advice you can use in a brief posting,
and there are as many opinions on the subject as there are dogs.  So
I'll just touch on a couple of issues:

If you want to keep the dog friendly, make sure he gets to play with
lots of different people.  In time he'll learn the difference between
family, friends, and strangers, and he'll naturally become protective.
So you want to keep him from learning aggression now.  It may be
tolerable, and even cute, when he's a puppy, but it's not so entertaining
in a full size shepard.

Likewise, this is the time to discourage him from biting or chewing
on inappropriate objects.  Don't give him old clothes as toys
until he learns to distinguish "his" from "yours".

Finally, make the discipline and learning experience a positive one.
Dogs don't have a lot of self-esteem, and positive reinforcement
goes a long way, while punishment and negative reinforcement after
the fact can really set you back.
--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: jkjncs@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: WEIMARANER dogs???
Reply-To: jkjncs@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:32:09 GMT

In article <1992Jul19.034631.10495@news.unomaha.edu>, massey@odin.unomaha.edu 
(Dana Massey) writes:
>
>There are several weim owners on the Canine-L listser group
>subscribe to:
>   listserv@pccvm.bitnet
>   subscribe  canine-l  <your name>
>   

Could someone please e-mail me info on what the Canine-L group is
and how I can access it
thank u

- jane
jkjncs@ritvax.isc.rit.edu

*********************************************************
* jane jackson and murphy b. lab, Am./Can. CD, CGC, TDI *
* jkjncs@ritvax.isc.rit.edu                             *
*                                                       *
* standard disclaimer applies...                        *
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From: tcox@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu (Tony Cox)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Behaviour problem: Dog pretends he hasn't heard and slinks off
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:22:44 GMT
Organization: SSRL, Stanford, CA

Hi all,

	My 5 year old, unneutered male, Australian Shepard mix, "Thufir" has
recently developed (two weeks back) an annoying habit which I would like to
break him of.

	I live in the heart of the Santa Cruz mountains, in what most dogs
would consider doggy heaven. The nearest road is way off, and most neighbours
have dogs which wander around visiting each others houses, etc. etc.

	Frequently, of course, it is necessary to get Thufir to come in on
command (at night, for example, when he likes to bark at racoons or deer).

	Recently, he has discovered that human night vision isn't up to much,
and so will lurk in the shadows and pretend he hasn't heard the call. Worse,
he will ignore me and just slink off. No amount of shouting or stern words
will bring him back.

	Of course, he comes back after an hour or so, full of smiles. How
does one discipline the dog then? Clearly, the pea-brain has forgotten all
about ignoring me, and interprets any harsh words or slaps as odd behaviour
from a normally reasonable master.

	Does anyone have any idea what I should do?

Tony Cox
tcox@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu
From: kkeating@acsu.buffalo.edu (Kelly Anne Hinkle)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Bichon Frise "matting" help needed
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:00:38 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <7445@monmouth.edu> ben@monmouth.edu (Bennett Broder) writes:
>
>My questions:  Should I cave in and just have the dog shaved?  Would there
>be any permanant damage to his coat?  Assuming that I try to remove the
>mats, does anyone have any pointers to make it easier on me and *especially*
>the dog?
>
Yes, have him taken all the way down, and then can start over.  He'll look a
little funny for a bit, but the fur will grow back, and as long as
youbrush/comb it regularly, you'llnever have to go through this again.  :)

>I've learned my lesson the hard way.  I am *never* going to let this happen
>again.

Well, good.  Everyone makes mistakes, but at least you learned from it.  :)

Kelly
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: dilmore@cray.com (Robert J. Dilmore)
Subject: Re: Stop dog from making a lunge
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: 24 Jul 92 07:00:28 CDT

In article <1992Jul23.192215.20406@PacBell.COM> jxwomac@pbseps.sf180.PacBell.COM (Julie Womack) writes:
>
>Whenever I walk my 15 month old cocker spaniel, she makes a lunge for
>bicycles, dogs and especially people on skateboards. I constantly look
>backward and forward to see what's coming to avoid any contact and will
>hold on tight to her lease and yell 'off'. Will she eventually stop this
>behavior or is there a better way to stop this?

  If I remember right, just firmly holding the leash will just reinforce
this behavior. A FIRM correction with the leash with a choke chain would
be more preferred based on my obediance training. This would require a 
snap of the leash that if done correctly will not just reinforce to the dog
where the end of the leash is, but let the dog know that the end of the leash
is a very unconfortable place to be. Some smaller dogs may become airborne
the first couple of times. My Golden never goes to the end of the leash now.

Robert
From: tmhoff@oogoody.Corp.Sun.COM (Todd Hoff)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Advice on Starting a Dog Cemetery
Date: 21 Jul 1992 01:12:56 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: tmhoff@oogoody.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: oogoody.corp.sun.com

In article Lys@acsu.buffalo.edu, kkeating@acsu.buffalo.edu (Kelly Anne Hinkle) writes:
>In article <l6lrmcINNq0j@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> tmhoff@oogoody.Corp.Sun.COM writes:

>I can't see this is going to be a "business" for her.  How is she going to
>make a profit, which is the general idea of a business, by charging people to
>bury their pets?  Maybe I'm just a cynic, but somehow I don't think this one
>is going to take off.
>

Hmm, where do you bury your pets? When I lived in the country this was easy,
but in the burbs? It seems cold to handover my pet to animal control who
will do who knows what with the body.


>>2. What would you like to see in a pet cemetery?
>
>Trees with no fences around them.  :)  Please, don't think I'm being
>insensitive, it's just that she'll have to have someone to care for the
>grounds, like mowing the lawn, and weeding any flower beds, etc.  Not to
>mention having someone to dig the graves, decide where to put which animals.
>I mean, if your sister doesn't want to dig graves on Sundays, do the people
>have to keep Fido's body around if he dies on a Saturday afternoon? Reallyly
>though, I can't honestly picture this one coming about.
>

There could be on-site burial or cremation. I think she can handle
mowing the lawn. 

In general though, don't you think a  funeral for your pet is a good
idea? Wouldn't it help with your grieving process?



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From: jxwomac@pbseps.sf180.PacBell.COM (Julie Womack)
Subject: Stop dog from making a lunge
Originator: jxwomac@pbseps.sf180.PacBell.COM
Organization: Pacific Bell - Financial Management
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:22:15 GMT


Whenever I walk my 15 month old cocker spaniel, she makes a lunge for
bicycles, dogs and especially people on skateboards. I constantly look
backward and forward to see what's coming to avoid any contact and will
hold on tight to her lease and yell 'off'. Will she eventually stop this
behavior or is there a better way to stop this?
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: bradley@mdd.comm.mot.com (Michael Bradley)
Subject: Re: Seeking Personal Opinions/Info on Akitas
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 21:12:57 GMT

In article <24740035@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> mledna@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Matt Ledna) writes:
>
>  We are considering getting a second dog and my wife has her heart set on an
>  Akita.  Two questions :  1) How do they get along with other dogs?  We
Must be new to the group. Maybe someone has archived the recent Akita
discussion. If I remember the discussion as a general rule Akitas dont
get along well with other dogs.
 mrb

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs,misc.consumers.house
From: X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Subject: Re: Burglars and dogs: results of a survey
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:30:04 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.150407.11141@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
     patter@dasher.uucp (24224-guthrie) writes:
 
>The last I heard the latest craze was guard rattlesnakes. Some people use
>de-fanged snakes, some don't. They work *real* well with the appropriate
>warning signs.
 
 
   Not to suggest that *you* agree with this, but this (rattlesnakes) is
an EXTREAMLY dumb idea.
 
1)  Rattlesnake can grow their fangs back within a matter of a couple
    of weeks.
2)  The poisen ducts are still present; venom can still enter the body
    from the wound caused by the bite (from the other teeth ?).
3)  Unless they are cornered, the snake will attempt to get away from
    the intruder, not attack him (95% of the time).
 
 
If I were the burglar, I wouldn't hesitate to go after a place that used
this.  If they were this dumb, then they probably don't have any other
type of security to worry about.
 
      ----------------------------------------------
Chris Barnes            |
x005cb@tamvm1.tamu.edu  |  Only 34 more days until the start of
(409) 846-3273 (home)   |           hunting season (in Texas)
(409) 845-8454 (work)   |
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From: clark@gopher.stanford.edu (Clark Burdick)
Subject: FOUND DOG
Followup-To: clark@gopher.Stanford.EDU
Originator: clark@gopher.Stanford.EDU
Keywords: german shepard found in Mountain View
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 15:36:10 GMT

Found:	1 male german shepard (fairly young)
When:	the evening of Tuesday, July 28
Where:	near the corner of Thompson Ave and Central Expressway in
	Mountain View.


The dog was wearing a blue collar with a Mountain View license, but
no other identification. The dog seemed healthy and was very friendly
and well trained (he knows how to sit). Since there was no identification,
the dog was taken to the Santa Clara Humane Society. Please contact the
Santa Clara Humane Society if this is your dog or if you know who's dog
it might be. Thanks,

Clark Burdick
clark@gopher.Stanford.EDU

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