HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tylee@leety.austin.ibm.com (Ty Lee)
Subject: Re: KMT(Kuo-Ming-Tung or Nationalist), a totalitarian regime
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:07:54 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin

In article <1jknkiINNpm5@pollux.usc.edu> mcyang@pollux.usc.edu (Bien-Chao Iunn) writes:
>
>Even today, every unit in military has to subscribe KMT military newspapers.
>And this is paid by tax payers' money.   These newspapers are indeed subsidized
>by our money.
>

Why I don't see the DPP's legislators whined in the Legislative house
about the so-called monopoly of the publications to see? (Maybe
I missed it, as most of the time melees and fists are usually seen in that
place, voices can hardly be heard. :))

I agree with you that everything used to support the defense indeed
comes from the pocket of the people in Taiwan. If the officers in every
unit decided that subscribing the pro-government publications is good to
the defense of Taiwan, then that's their decision that will benefit the 
servicepeople and keep them away from politics. But, I still doubt the
neutrality of the publications subscribed. 

From the internet address, you seemd to be in the USA, how come is your money
counted toward the taxes payed to the Taiwnese government?

>
>Yes, the ban was lifted after 40 years.   But, don't tell me it is a fair
>game today.  One of the major reasons which brought the Capital Daily into
>bankruptcy was that the KMT United News threatened those news stands that
>if they keep selling newspapers for the Capital Daily, the United Daily
>will revoke their dealerships.
>

Why do they have to sell United News to survive?
I think the news stands can refuse the threatens and keep selling Capital
Daily. It's an open market. And, by this way no one in Taiwan will ever see 
United News in the streets again. :)
This proves United News still has quite amount of readership to guarrantee
its survival. So, this makes TI/DPP pretty uneasy and nervous, like pain
in the neck. For the revival of Capital Daily, I think they should be more
neutral, fair, non-partisan, and managed by professionals, not by amatuer
revolutionists, who know little about news industry.

I think you should change "KMT" United News to pro-KMT United news, 
because KMT does not own United News. And, KMT has its own newspaper.

>And remember, the ban on TV and radio stations is still there.  The 
>KMT(Kuo-Ming-Tung or Nationalist) party is still a totalitarian regime 

Give me the definition of a totalitarian regime.

>which has a strict control over what the people of Taiwan should watch 
>and listen to.  And you cannot deny that.

Isn't this contradictory to what you have said that people in Taiwan
can see any newspaper they wnated to? (Ban is lifted.)
And when the last stronghold of Taiwan communication business is sunk,
we will see no more KMT monopoly. And we shall see no more TI/DPP's
whines about it. :)
-- 
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From: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: Back from the UK
Date: 24 Jan 93 16:05:30 GMT
Reply-To: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1993Jan22.071041.1654@netcom.com> sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller) writes:
>>>Why? If you gotta go, then you gotta go, and if someone else is having a 
>>>long leisurely soak in the tub it's handy to have the loo in a separate 
>>>room.
>>
>>Yes, but where do you wash your hands when you're done if someone is
>>having a long leisurely soak in the tub?
>>
>C'mon Gabe, in the kitchen!!

But what if someone's scrubbing pots in the kitchen sink?


--
Gabe Wiener - Columbia Univ.     "This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings 
gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu       to be seriously considered as a means of 
N2GPZ in ham radio circles        communication. The device is inherently of
72355,1226 on CI$                 no value to us." -Western Union memo, 1877
From: mmh@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Americanisms (was Re: Back from the UK
Date: 28 Jan 93 09:32:11 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London, UK.

In article <1993Jan27.145938.5112@infodev.cam.ac.uk> gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk writes:
>In article <1993Jan27.134735.9688@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> mmh@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach) writes:
>>etc. country in the world, but I am sorry, to the British ear,
>>all American accents sound much the same.
>
>Well, maybe they do to yours, Matthew.  I can certainly tell a New
>England accent from a West Coast one, or an accent from the Deep
>South.  I'm sure my ear isn't anything like as discriminating as an
>American's, but I can at least make broad distinctions.
>
>>By which I mean there
>>are certain features which are common to most American accents,
>>but only found in some British accents.
>
>And I'm sure an American would say exactly the same thing the
>other way round.

Yes, it's just a matter of what you're familiar with. I suspect
the range of accents in the USA is less than that in England
simply because they have had a lot less time to develop them,
but I am quite willing to believe that if you know what to
listen out for you'll find a variety there.

In the same way, because I have lived all my life in the
south-east, I can distinguish between an East London, South
London, and Sussex accent, which I am sure to a northerner would
all sound the same. On the other hand the northerner could
probably make all sorts of distinctions between the great
variety of accents in the north, while all I can do is just
about discern the difference between north-east and north-west.

Matthew Huntbach
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: vince@bme.ri.ccf.org (Geoff Vince)
Subject: Exotic car rental/hire
Organization: Biomedical Engineering, Cleveland Clinic Foundation
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:45:59 GMT

Can anyone provide the address/or telephone number of companies in the UK 
who rent/hire exotic sports cars.  I am particularly interested in the likes 
of Porsche, Jaguar XJS, Lotus, Ferrari, etc.
Thanks
From: sizex@bnr.co.uk (Eric Barber)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: last fighting king was Re: Charles's DNA tested ...
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:00:57 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, London Road, Harlow, England.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.199.202.49

In article <C1IGs8.DGw@newcastle.ac.uk> w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk writes:
>  the last monarch (to date) is much easier question.  It was one of
>the early George's (mayber the II or III).

I'd guess William III. George II dithered about fleeing while Bonnie
Prince Charlie neared Oxford, and George I was too old by the time
he succeeded?

Eric
   _    "just a Texan a long way from home"
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From: w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Just how many HKer's coming to UK
Date: 24 Jan 93 13:53:07 GMT
Reply-To: w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk
Organization: Chemical & Process Engineering Dept, University of Newcastle, UK.

mcsavaney_d@apollo.hp.com (#David McSavaney) writes:

          stuff deeleted
>>
>>Again, most neither know nor care. I find this immensely sad
>>as I believe the British could learn a lot from Hong Kong.
>         [lots of Martin's stuff deleted]                

>Remember how many application forms for British residency they
>printed - what was it? Three million? And how many returned?
>Barely enough to fill the 50,000 heads of household limit.

I've also heard the figures of 200,000 to 250,000.  Just
how do they work it out.

   I assume each head of household gets to bring their spouse
and any children they have under the age of 16.  But it seems 
reasonable to assume that many of these 50000 will be middle 
aged and possibly no longer have children under 16.

   Do children under 18, 21 etc count.  
   If your adult children count then what about their spouses and
      children.

      if so you could have for each head of household 1 spouse,
       3 children, 3 cildren in law, 9 grandchildren = 17.
                17 * 50k = 850,000

  If it is only spouse + kids < 16yrs then it means
   many of them might have to leave their children and grandchildren
   behind if they choose to leave.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: sjdavies@eos.ncsu.edu (STEWART JOSEPH DAVIES)
Subject: British Newspapers are Rubbish
Followup-To: British Newspapers
Keywords: Nonsence -
          
	I've been in the United States for 8 months now and my bigest }
	dissapointment has been with the news.  What is happening out
	there.  You talk of British news being self absorbed.  
	If I didn't have a telephone their is no way I'd know a thing
	about the rest of the world.
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 13:04:07 GMT

	Stewart Davies. British guy in America
	sjdavies@eos.ncsu.edu
From: ray@philmtl.philips.ca (Ray Dunn)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Dry martinis
Date: 22 Jan 93 04:29:45 GMT
Organization: Not Philips.

In refd article, cc_s460@titan.kingston.ac.uk (Graham King) writes:
>"The Dry Martini cocktail was invented in the old Knickerbocker Hotel, NY
>City, around 1910 ...... The bartender who gave it its name was a Signor
>Martini

"Dry" is an unusual Christian name for an Italian, isn't it?

[A likely tale, you'll be telling us next about the barmaid who invented
the "Bloody Mary" ...]
-- 
Ray Dunn at home        |  Beaconsfield, Quebec  |  Phone: (514) 630 3749
ray@philmtl.philips.ca  |  ray@cam.org           |  uunet!sobeco!philmtl!ray
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: alla0008@student.tc.umn.edu (Graham Allan)
Subject: Re: london, england
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:49:03 GMT

In article <4033@wyse.wyse.com> jmunro@wyse.wyse.com (Jim Munro x2497) writes:
>In article <1993Jan24.160401.15715@clts1.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Geraint.Jones@comlab.oxford.ac.uk (Geraint Jones) writes:
>>
>>There has
>>not been a Manchester Guardian since Adam was a lad. 
>
>It's certainly very possible to buy or subscribe to the weekly airmail
>edition of the "Manchester Guardian' almost anywhere outside of the UK.
>
>The daily edition may now be called The Grauniad, and it may also be published
>in London. It still retains some connections to Manchester, even if it is only
>the 'Property For Sale' ads.

It also still has an office in Manchester, on Deansgate.

Graham.
From: wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: This Favorite Lie Again.
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:31:52 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.celtic,soc.culture.celtic
X-From: wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk
X-Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic

X-Date: 26 Jan 93 12:31:04 GMT
X-Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <30351@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
>  Yup - and then we're all going to Europe to kick your asses and make you
> drink Budweiser and watch the Super Bowl - and if you send me your
> address I'll personally see to it that I drive the first US tank down your 
> street with my portable CD blasting "Over hill over Dale..."

Thorough Bush, thorough brier, I do wander everywhere.
The cowslips tall her pensioners be... ?

How nice. I prefer Vaughan Williams' setting for choir if you happen to come
into Oxford.
-- 

Stephen Wilcox             |   For Sale: Posts in British Government. Suit
wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk    |   outgoing American. Highest bids accepted.
From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: I answer the challenge of Simon Patience
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 05:40:11 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Aengus Lawlor <RBYAML@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com> writes:

- Perhaps Mr Yadallee would like to take a copy of his local TV guide, and
- tell us how many hours of top quality British television he could watch
- during prime-time in a typical week. He might put an asterisk against
- anything that's less than 6 or 7 years old, if he comes across anything
- less than 6 or 7 years old.
-
- Now I don't know how many channels there are available in Alberta, but
- with 10-15 channels available here, the asterisked list wouldn't be
- very long. In fact I don't think there would be an asterisked list. The
- rest of the list wouldn't amount to much either. And it would be entirely
- broadcast on Public Television or other special interest channels.
-
- A list of British TV shows that have only been shown on a few local TV
- stations, 10 years after they were made, tends to prove the original
- assertion that you challenged, in my book!
-
- Aengus
- --
- RBYAML@ROHMHAAS.COM                    Aengus Lawlor
- RBYAML@ROHVM1.BITNET                   (who used to be ALAWLOR@DIT.IE)
- "How about some of that famous Dublin wit, Barman?"
- "Certainly, sir. Would that be Dry or Sparkling?"

Right you are then.  You may not believe this one, but we are as accurate to 2
years here.  Top that mate.

Dave Shariff Yadallee (B. Sc. (Econ/Math) (U of Alberta 1990) )
 (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca, userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
Birthdate: 29 Jan 1969, Redhill, Surrey, England, UK
From: cwilson@gssec.bt.co.uk (Colin Wilson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Philips (was Re: British phones in France)
Date: 25 Jan 93 10:05:55 GMT
Organization: BT

In article <1993Jan22.140657.23075@gssec.bt.co.uk>, fbowles@gssec.bt.co.uk (Frank K Bowles) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan18.151755.22209@pixel.kodak.com>, dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones) writes:
|> |> Ray Dunn (ray@philmtl.philips.ca) wrote:
|> |> > Like thousands of others though, I _used_ to work for Philips.  After seven
|> |> > months on the brew, I recently started working again]
|> |> 
|> |> I think you mean 'the buroo', Glaswegian (and Geordie) for 'the dole'.  
|> |> Seven months on brew would tend to reduce your chances of ever working 
|> |> again....  
|> |> 
|>  
|> The word is brew.  Even in Glasgow we don't actually write in phonetics...
|> 
|> Frank
|> 
|> (I'm not sure of the origin - perhaps it was because unemployed people
|> once spent a lot of time in the pub?  Enlightenment anyone?)

The spelling preferred by the Scots Language Society is "burou", so Ray
was nearer. It's actually the Scots form of the French word "bureau", so
the European Bureau for Lesser-Used Languages (such as Scots) is known
as the "European Burou for Lesser-Yaised Leids".

I really don't know what Frank means by writing in phonetics: neither
"buroo" nor "brew" is how the word would be written using the
International Phonetic Alphabet. As to why Glasgow people would be more
likely to write in that alphabet than other people would be, I've no
idea at all.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: jac54@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: British passport needs re-newing in Canada
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 11:50:09 GMT

In article <21JAN93.01100591@sklib.usask.ca> scott@sklib.usask.ca writes:
>I live in Canada and need to re-new my British passport.
>Any suggestions to scott@sklib.usask.ca
>Thanks ahead.


	Just call the British Embassy in Toronto and get them to
	send you the forms.  As long as you haven't lost the
	original it should be a piece of cake.  I renewed mine
	a couple of weeks ago through the embassy in D.C. and it
	took less than a week by mail.  The only problem was that
	they issued me one of those tiny EEC passports not much bigger
	than my photograph and a sort of nasty dried-blood red.

	You do need someone to witness the application, the requirements
	are outlined in the instructions but they can be fairly flexible
	about them as long as it is a citizen of the country of residence
	and they don't use a cross or a thumbrint.

	Alec
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: sanjiv@projtech.com (Sanjiv Gossain)
Subject: 110-220 Step transformer needed
Organization: Project Technology, Inc., Berkeley, CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:26:10 GMT

I have a friend coming over here from the UK shortly
and he'll be bringing some UK appliances.
Is there anywhere in the bay area where he'll
be able to obtain a 100-200V stepup transformer?

Any contacts appreciated.

Thanks

Sanjiv Gossain
sanjiv@projtech.com
From: sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Americanisms (was Re: Back from the UK)
Date: 22 Jan 93 07:15:58 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <28566@dog.ee.lbl.gov> mike@fionn.lbl.gov (Michael Helm) writes:
>briand@tekig5.PEN.TEK.COM writes:
>>It's fun to listen to US folks try to pronounce Spanish. You see, Spanish
>
>Maybe so, but nothing tops the BBC pronunciation of Nicaragua:
>"Knicker-ague-ah".

He oughta listen to the Pogues "singing" in Spanish.  Pretty dire.
Or The Clash, for that matter.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: hiscrp@nuscc.nus.sg (C R Pennell)
Subject: Re: guide dogs
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 06:35:25 GMT

cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
: In article <1k3su0INN9th@bigboote.WPI.EDU> mfriley@pacman.WPI.EDU (Margaret F Riley) writes:
: }I can't remember all of the details, but it seemed to me that the
: }person in need was going to be in England when he/she needed the
: }guide dog.  There is a 6 month quarantine for animals entering the
: }country (or is it the entire UK?), so a guide dog from the US would
: }be tied up in a kennel for 6 months while the person tried to
: }find other means of assistance.
: 
: No, the original poster said:
: 
: >....He would be willing to come to Britian one vacation to
: >be learn how to manage with the dog, and would look after the transport
: >and arrangements etc.


Oh dear, he's rumbled me. I'll have to admit it. *I* advised him to go to
Britain because I'm convinced
1. That American trained dogs would not understand a Singapore accent
and
2. That since one of their principle jobs is helping their owners cross
roads, dogs trained in America would be unable to cope with traffic in
Singapore which drives on the left not the right.
 Please forgive me for my misapprehensions on this matter.

Richard Pennell, History NUS
From: chem91@Elroy.UH.EDU ("Bill Harrison (713)-743-2789")
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: American humo(u)r (was Re: Studying Me
Date: 21 Jan 1993 16:15:32 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Reply-To: chem91@Elroy.UH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: elroy.uh.edu

[...]
>>
>>There was an article in the Oakland Tribune last week
>>that gave statistics for the number of homicides last year
>>in Oakland....172 was the total. That was up by around 10 from 1991
>
>These figures were for the Republic of Ireland. Another article, in a
>different paper, gave the number of deaths in Northern Ireland due to
>'the Troubles' as 89. (Loyalists 40, Republicans 35, Security Forces 15,
>roughly).
>>

Houston, Texas had an excellent year in '92, and murders were down 20% to
"only" 500 for the year.  Keeping an informal check on the crime report in the
local paper, I'd say that 75% of these were "domestic" in nature, rather than
being e.g. robbery or drug related. 

Good job we've got all those guns to protect ;=) us...

Bill

+ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\               /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+
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| University of Houston, TX  >-----------<         reality itself"     |
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From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: British computer companies
Keywords: british computers
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:02:05 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

david@postman.gr.osf.org (David George) writes:

>In article <1993Jan28.092059.7419@dcs.qmw.ac.uk>, mmh@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach) writes:
>|> In article <1262@bazooka.amb.org> cbenson@bazooka.amb.org (Christopher Benson) writes:

>|> ... ICL

>|> Let's see were they the ones that the government sold off to
>|> the Japanese, or the ones they sold off to the French?

>You're getting paranoid about Govt. sell offs Matthew.  Neither ICL
>not Inmos were owned by the government when they were 'sold'.  I believe

Inmos was originally set up and owned by the Government. They were sold by
the Government to Thorn-EMI who in turn 'sold' Inmos to Thomson.

>off' at least once a year.  Edith Croissant flogged it to the French nuclear

Edith *Croissant*???????......surely you mean Claude Patisserie???


Dave

--
From: jmunro@wyse.wyse.com (Jim Munro x2497)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: "Not too bad"
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:53:35 GMT
Organization: Wyse Technologies San Jose, Ca

In article <1993Jan25.211242.24820@oracorp.com> li@oracorp.com (Li Gong) writes:
 >
 >Isn't "Great!!" the typical and almost the only suitable answer (or
 >the only one you would expect to get) to ANY question in the US?


Sure !


Jim Munro
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From: cwilson@gssec.bt.co.uk (Colin Wilson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.celtic,soc.celtic,purdue.general
Subject: Re: Robert Burns Dinners
Date: 21 Jan 93 13:13:26 GMT
Organization: BT

In article <C15uBG.EKE@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>, newt@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Michael Steven Newton) writes:
|> pmh@st-andrews.ac.uk (Patricia M Heggie) writes:
|> 
|> >In article <1993Jan14.161906.14212@st-andrews.ac.uk> rm4@st-andrews.ac.uk (Rosa Michaelson) writes:
|> >>That should be SUPPER not DINNER - we in Scotland call the evening spent
|> >>eating haggis, neaps, tatties, shortie and drinking loads of whiskey, and
|> >>listening to Burn's poetry, scottish music, and more whiskey toasts 
|> >>BURN'S SUPPERS.
|> >>
|> 
|> >That should be WHISKY not WHISKEY !!!!!!!  We in Scotland do not spell it
|> >the same way as the Americans and Irish do !
|> 
|> >     Tricia
|> 
|>   Sin a tha "Uisge Bheatha"!  Nach e "Whiskey" no "Whisky".  De/an e
|> ceart!
|> 
|> mn

Been watching "Speaking our Language", have we?

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From: scrl@otter.hpl.hp.com (Simon Lewis)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 12:46:02 GMT
Subject: Re: British computer companies
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british

These are the ones are I can think of.  Not all of these are completely 
bluer-than-blue British owned companies any more, but they all started 
that way...

Amstrad, Research Machines, Acorn, Psion, Apricot... must be some more.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.british