HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: andresb@anubis.kbfi.ee (Andres Bauman)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Tin and setuid (was xxxxxxx)
Date: 6 Jan 1993 19:15:27 GMT
Organization: Institute of Chemical Physics and Biophysics, Estonia
NNTP-Posting-Host: anubis.kbfi.ee
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Wim van Dorst (tgcpwd@rw7.urc.tue.nl) wrote:
> Now when doing this tin -u command it gives several message about
> setuid(real) en setgid(news) not being permitted. Of course I should 
> have read the manual properly before mentioning this point, or looked
> in the source (that is why I was given it, I guess), but since setuid
> is brought up, I thought I might as well come forward. Since my 
> newsfeed is only small, and my machine fast enough, I don't think it
> is a big problem, but mentioning might help solving.

I have the same problem with PL8 under SCO Unix. If i try to run
tin or tin -u from root I get setuid(real) error messages. 


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Newsgroups: news.software.readers,alt.sys.amiga.uucp
From: Iain.Lea@anl433.uucp
Subject: Re: tin .sig
Organization: TIN Support
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 BETA PL0]
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:21:47 GMT

Steve Slade (steve@Celeborn.lvunix.com) wrote:
:
: # Signature path (random sigs)/file to be used when posting/replying to messages
: default_sigfile=~/.Sig
:                   ^^^^                    
: and in my home directory I have two sig files .sig .signature
                                                ^^^^ 

If the default is .Sig then you need a .Sig signature file.

Iain

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From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Survey of News Readers
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:32:21 GMT
Followup-To: news.software.readers
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>I missed the original query, but I really think nn is so much better
>than rn because the time that I investe in deciding which articles I
>will read is more than returned when I read the (fewer) articles that I
>chose.

Yes, but is it better than *t*rn?  The suggestion was that they use
"trn", which stands for "threaded 'rn'", and which keeps track of
discussion threads.
From: paul@eunet.co.at (Paul Gillingwater)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: What does trn use the 0 article for?
Date: 11 Jan 1993 22:25:49 +0100
Organization: EUnet EDV Dienstleistungs GmbH A-1010 Wien Austria
NNTP-Posting-Host: hp4at.eunet.co.at

I understand that trn uses article 0 as a special case in the .newsrc.
What is this used for, and are there any other special encodings besides
: and !\?
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: derekt@stpaul.gov (Derek Terveer)
Subject: mandatory group subscription in tin?
Organization: City of St. Paul Public Works
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:45:37 GMT

Is there any way, from a central location, to force users to subscribe
to specific groups that will then appear at the front of their list of
news groups?  NN has this feature, and i have found it useful for
ensuring that local news groups get read by all users.  I just don't
know how to do this in tin.  (I'm running pl6, by the way)

derek
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: Iain.Lea@anl433.uucp
Subject: Re: tin flame
Organization: TIN Support
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 BETA PL0]
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:59:34 GMT

Doug Sewell (doug@cc.ysu.edu) wrote:
:
: Tin's stability seems to fluctuate... some patch-versions are very stable,
: install just fine on all of our systems, etc.  Others either fail to work
: right on one or more hosts, or other serious bugs pop up.

I compile & test tin on the following OS's before releasing it:
ISC Unix
SunOS
DG/UX
NewsOS
Linux
Sinix

Iain

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: steveh@orbital.demon.co.uk (Stephen Hebditch)
Subject: Branch Killing
Organization: TQM Communications, London, UK
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:21:22 GMT

The most useful feature I'd like in a newsreader [this is probably
aimed at Wayne for the next version of trn as that's my newsreader of
choice] would be the ability to kill branches. e.g. with an article
tree like below...

  [1]+-[1]+-[1]+-[1]--[1]
     |    |    |-[1]--[1]
     |    |    \-[1]--[2]
     |    \-[1]
     |-[1]+-[*]+-<1>
     |    |    |-<1>
     |    |    \-<1>--<3>--<3>--<3>
     |    |-[1]
     |    \-[1]
     \-[1]--[1]

...pressing branch kill at article '*' would kill all the descendants
of the article, marked with chevrons. I know you can match the article
id on the References: header in child messages, but a) a single command
would be nicer and b) using the threading mechanism will mean the
branch is banished even if the References: line loses that reference.

A nice extension to this would then be the ability to junk branches
based on normal kill file rules. In particular, being able to junk all
the follow-ups to articles by a particular author, say. This would get
round the problem whereby even if you put a particular flame-merchant
in your kill file, you're still likely to see annoying follow-up
articles.

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From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Survey of News Readers
Date: 1 Jan 93 05:34:30 GMT
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ

>important, and why, etc., so that I can offer the best and most
>convenient here at work.  We've been using rn,

I suggest trn, which adds threading (among other things) to rn.

>5. NNTP compatible

I suggest that you only use NNTP for posting.  Reading articles over NFS is
*much* faster.

>6. Extra databases required?

If you want threading.

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From: kcb@post.its.mcw.edu (Kent C. Brodie)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Tin and setuid (was xxxxxxx)
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:12:08 GMT
Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin  (Milwaukee, WI)
NNTP-Posting-Host: post.its.mcw.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

: In article <1993Jan4.201633.11910@anl433.uucp> Iain.Lea@anl433.uucp writes:
: >Sounds like you are running tin setuid and it is somehow not doing
: >a setuid to your login user before starting vi.

Well, I've narrowed down the problem, but I still don't get it.

1) If I run tin as setuid-tin, then is having tind doing anything for
me?
2) If I run tin as setuid, then the indexing seems to work OK, but
   then users editing comes up in read-only.
3) if I don't* run setuid tin, then I get users seeing
   "Permission denied" errors on the central index files.

Iain---   PLEASE help us,...   can you explain in detail
how this is REALLY supposed to work, properly, assuming we use tind??

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: greg@athena.cs.uga.edu (Greg Whitlock)
Subject: Canceling article problems with RN
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:28:05 GMT


I just recently installed rn v4.4 pl3 on our sun4 (4.1.2 OS).
Currently, noone is able to canceling any articles that they
post.  Does anyone have an idea what the problem might be?

I would appreciate any replies.

Thanks.

-Greg
 greg@athena.cs.uga.edu

Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: davison@borland.com (Wayne Davison)
Subject: Re: Branch Killing
Organization: Borland International
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:12:37 GMT

Stephen Hebditch (steveh@orbital.demon.co.uk) wrote:
> The most useful feature I'd like in a newsreader [this is probably
> aimed at Wayne for the next version of trn as that's my newsreader of
> choice] would be the ability to kill branches.

I assume you mean in a KILL file, since you can hit ',' in any version of
trn and junk a subthread.  I'm looking into including such a KILL-file
feature in trn 3.0 (in development).

> A nice extension to this would then be the ability to junk branches
> based on normal kill file rules.

This is sort of available now.  For example:

	/author name/h:,

will kill all decendants of any header that as "author name" in it.
It doesn't keep on killing after the first time, however.

FYI, trn 3.0 will have the added ability to limit the search to just
the "From:" line, which will speed up its processing immensly:

	/author name/f:,

..wayne..
Xref: sparky news.software.readers:2763 news.software.b:3760
From: john@cutler.com (John E. Babbitt Jr.)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,news.software.b
Subject: Any Mac News reader/transport?
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:24:18 GMT
Organization: Cutler & Company, Inc., Medford OR (503) 770-9000

I've been searching for a news reader AND news transport software for the
Macintosh computer.  I have found a couple, of which all require MacTCP or
NNTP.  I am having no luck locating one that does not use MacTCP nor NNTP.
I need to be able to transfer news batches via UUCP.  Yes, I have the UUCP
software, but nothing for news (reader nor transport).  If anyone could
point me to the right software, I'll much appreciate your help.

Regards,

John E. Babbitt, Jr.        {UUCP: ...hplabs!hp-pcd!orstcs!cutler!john}
Senior Programmer/Analyst   {Internet: john@cutler.com}
Cutler & Company, Inc.      {Phone: 503/770-9000 (voice) 503/770-9014 (tt)}
Medford, Oregon  97504      {Disclaimer: What I say is my personal opinion}
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell)
Subject: Re: reading censored newsgroups
Organization: Bush in 92 ? NOT!
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 15:19:29 GMT

ziegler (an4629@anon.penet.fi) wrote:

: Does anyone know how to read newsgroups censored by ones sys admin?
: l am reading news on a VAX/VMS.

If you can telnet, get an account on cleveland freenet or a public-access
system (some are free, others charge small to high monthly or hourly fees).
Check out alt.bbs.internet etc.
--
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers,news.software.b
From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: DESIGN DISCUSSION: The reference line is deficient
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 04:43:54 GMT
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology

In article <1993Jan1.163608.23220@klaava.Helsinki.FI> kankkune@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Risto Kankkunen) writes:
>I like this very much! Really, no grin. Whether RFC1036bis explicitly
>codifies the special meaning of the first references entry or not, it
>definitely should add a version header, like MIME added MIME-version.

Why?  What use would it be?
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers,news.software.b
From: Iain.Lea@anl433.uucp
Subject: Re: tin flame
Organization: TIN Support
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 BETA PL0]
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:47:14 GMT

Jurgen Botz (jbotz@mtholyoke.edu) wrote:
:
: I agree with Tim... I am still running 1.1pl5, despite the fact that
: I could really use the allegedly much faster indexing daemon, because
: I haven't had time to _undo_ some of these user-interface "features".

The tind v1.1 PL5 is a real resource hog. I pity your CPU and users.
 
Iain

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: lenny@hobbs.hunt.inmet.com (Lenny Goodman)
Subject: Forcing trn to display subjects in thread mode
Organization: Intermetrics, Inc.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:40:19 GMT

I posted a similar message during the XMAS vacation period, so maybe
no one saw it.  I wanted to know if there is any method to force
"trn" to display the list of subjects in a newsgroup in threaded mode
as opposed to just a sequential list.  Some of the newsgroups that I browse 
display message subjects as a list and others use a threaded 
format.   Thanks.

  -- Len Goodman 
Xref: sparky news.software.readers:2778 news.software.b:3771
From: trsnyder@mcs.drexel.edu (Bob Snyder)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,news.software.b
Subject: Re: Any Mac News reader/transport?
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:06:04 GMT
Organization: ASCI

>>>>> In article <1993Jan11.132419.328@cutler>, john@cutler.com (John
>>>>> E. Babbitt Jr.) writes:

John> I've been searching for a news reader AND news transport
John> software for the Macintosh computer.  I have found a couple, of
John> which all require MacTCP or NNTP.  I am having no luck locating
John> one that does not use MacTCP nor NNTP.  I need to be able to
John> transfer news batches via UUCP.  Yes, I have the UUCP software,
John> but nothing for news (reader nor transport).  If anyone could
John> point me to the right software, I'll much appreciate your help.

uAccess from ICE does mail and news via UUCP.  Contact info@ice.com for more
info.

Bob
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: tdawson@iphase.com (Tim Dawson)
Subject: Xrn - does it normally allocate over 30MB of memory on startup?
Organization: Interphase Corporation, Dallas Texas
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:33:16 GMT

I am having a problem with Xrn 6.17 that when a new user starts up a session, 
the thing will allocate over 30 Meg of RAM, and bring the users system to
it's knees.  If these were 1 users workstations, no problem - only the 1 user
would be affected, and we could live with it.  We are running X terminals, and
hence one xrn session can essentially halt up to 50 people.

Configuration:

xrn 6.17 built for nntp support.
Sun 4 architecture (4/490, 64MB RAM)
Full News feed - 1800+ groups.

I have built xrn from two separate sets of source and see the same thing. 6.15
did not appear to have this problem, but I really don't want to back down 
if I don't have to . . .

Anyone else seen this, and if so, could you point me to a patch or whatever?
I don't see any configurable item which could affect this, and I doubt that it
is nntp related since nn, rn, and trn all run with nntp with no oddities.



??????? - HELP!


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From: a3@rivm.nl (Adri Verhoef)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Saving articles in background process
Date: 6 Jan 93 11:24:28 GMT
Organization: Rijksinstituut voor Volksgezondheid en Milieuhygiene,Bilthoven,NL

I am trying to save articles from within crontab, using:

	rn -M -q -T $1 <<eof
yqq
eof

(-T allows typeahead, -M is used for saving in mailbox format,
and -q is for bypassing the automatic check for new newsgroups.)

This used to work for me (on a HP9000/730),
but since I moved to Solaris 2.1, I get "Can't open /dev/tty".
It seems I need a controlling tty.  But I want to do this from crontab.

What can I do about it?
I don't think "rn </dev/console" (or whatever tty) will help, since
a tty can not always be readable by a common user, and I don't want
to read news as super user.
I have tried "rn ... < /dev/null" but to no avail.  (HELP!)

Adri
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: Iain.Lea@anl433.uucp
Subject: Re: opposite of a kill file?
Organization: TIN Support
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 BETA PL0]
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:46:29 GMT

Wayne S. Mery (luwsm@lehigh.edu) wrote:
:
: I'd like to expand Raymond's request just a tad bit.  What newsreaders 
: (not just trn) provide this capability.  It seems to me such a capability 
: would be a component of any good newsreader but the function appears to 
: be lacking in the readers I've seen.  Can't be much more difficult to 
: implement than simply copying the 'kill code' with minor modification. 

I am pretty sure that nn can support this and its called reverse-killing (?).

I definitely know (:) that tin can support what I call auto-selection of
interesting articles. Criteria for selection can be a regexp on the
Subject: or From: headers. In the next release I have also added support
to select on the Lines: header and also selection expiration.

Iain

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From: kankkune@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Risto Kankkunen)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,news.software.b
Subject: Re: DESIGN DISCUSSION: The reference line is deficient
Date: 11 Jan 93 20:29:00 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki, Department of Computer Science

>>I like this very much! Really, no grin. Whether RFC1036bis explicitly
>>codifies the special meaning of the first references entry or not, it
>>definitely should add a version header, like MIME added MIME-version.
>
>Why?  What use would it be?

What use does a version number have in any program, protocol, data
format etc.? It allows you to disambiguate between similar protocol
versions which may have subtle differencies, or older revisions of them
might contain deficients that are corrected in later versions.

Even if you don't intend to make a new revision, you should still have a
version number anyway. Otherwise, after a few years, you find yourself
inventing ad-hoc kludges for catching those using the original protocol,
now found to be inadequate, so you could interpret it correctly.

MIME needs the version number to assure that the Content-type etc.
headers are used in the same meaning as defined in the MIME RFC and not
in some previous ones. There are maybe some other headers that are
affected by MIME, too.

I think using MIME in netnews has similar implications. For example
tweaking the definition of references header and other such
modifications would benefit from a version header, too. First I thought
netnews should use NEWS-Version instead of MIME-Version. That, however,
makes MIME conforming news articles different than MIME mail. That is
undesirable. On the other hand, if you use only the MIME-Version header,
you cannot conveniently tag changes in the article format that are
pertinent to net news.

So, use NEWS-version to document the article format revision, and
MIME-version to announce the MIME substandard level? Or do you think
there will never be a need to enhance the format again in a way that
affects the old headers etc.?

-- 
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: a3@rivm.nl (Adri Verhoef)
Subject: Re: Saving articles in background process
Organization: Rijksinstituut voor Volksgezondheid en Milieuhygiene,Bilthoven,NL
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:04:37 GMT

In article <C0FJot.II1@rivm.nl> I (a3@rivm.nl (Adri Verhoef)) wrote:
>I am trying to save articles from within crontab, using:
>
>	rn -M -q -T $1 <<eof
>yqq
>eof
>
>(-T allows typeahead, -M is used for saving in mailbox format,
>and -q is for bypassing the automatic check for new newsgroups.)
>
>This used to work for me
>[..] but now [..] I get "Can't open /dev/tty".
>
>It seems I need a controlling tty.  But I want to do this from crontab.
>
>What can I do about it?

Here is the solution (thanks to myself :-)


Redirect both stderr and stdin to a (temporary) file.
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: Iain.Lea@anl433.uucp
Subject: Re: tin insists on threading
Organization: TIN Support
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 BETA PL0]
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:52:53 GMT

patrick m. ryan (pat@gsfc.nasa.gov) wrote:
:
: 	Has anyone had the problem with tin that it insists on
: threading newsgroups even when the thread_arts attribute is
: set to OFF?

Its a bug. I can reproduce it here so I will fix it for the 
next release.

Iain

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: sergio@Ingres.COM (Sergio L Aponte)
Subject: Re: need tin help:  tind, permissions!
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company, Alameda CA 94501
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Distribution: net
Date: 11 Jan 93 22:15:06 GMT

Kent C. Brodie (kcb@post.its.mcw.edu) wrote:

: I need some help here folks, and so far, no-one has responded.

: I'm running tin, and also the tind indexing daemon.   I seem to
: have SOME type of permission problem, but don't know
: exactly what.....

: 1) If I leave tin with standard permissions, everything seems 
:    to be fine until the user reads certain groups, and permission
:    errors abound...
:    "/usr1/spool/news/.index/3214.1.3425 - Permission denied."
:    (that's just a sample, but you get the idea).

:    What permissions must the central ".index" directory have?
:    Currently, it looks like this:

	So this are centralized indeces all users in the machine share, right?

	On my machine :

	-rwsr-xr-x  1 newsadm    773149 Oct 14 12:09 tin
	-rwxr-x--x  1 newsadm    200704 Jan  5 16:46 tind

	notice newsadm owns the News installation.

	drwxrwx---  1 newsadm        20 Jun 18  1992 /usr/spool/news
	drwxrwxrwx  2 root         1536 Jan 11 13:45 .index

	the index files are

	-rw-r--r--  1 root          787 Jan  5 16:43 617.1

	That is because tind is runned off cron by root. If I had "su" on the
	cron line to newsadm, then newsadm would own all the index files.


: drwxrwxr-x  2 news        23552 Jan 11 12:34 .index/

:    What permissions should tin have?   Currently, it looks like:

: -rwxr-xr-x  2 news       356352 Dec 30 11:06 tin*
: -rwxr-xr-x  1 news       278528 Nov 24 09:39 tind*

	Notice "tin" should be "suid" to use the centralized indeces. Your Tin
	is 0755, it should be 4755.

: 2) If, in the above, I change tin to "setuid" tin, It gets
:    even weirder...    users posting articles with vi or
:    emacs end up editing ~/.article in "read only" mode.

	This could be because of their umask? Also, setuid to what? It would
	depend a lot on who owns the executable (in your case, news) and what
	it's umask is when creating files...


: Can SOMEONE (hopefully Iaia) PLEASE explain the PROPER way
: to set this up?   I really like tin, and this one last thing
: is really bugging me....

: much thanks!

: -- 
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: Kent C. Brodie - Sr. Systems/Network Manager		brodie@post.its.mcw.edu
: Information Technology Systems
: Medical College of Wisconsin				(414) 257-8769