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From: rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams)
Subject: Re: Madonna offers haven to Diana
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Francisco
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:01:32 GMT

> jclander@maestro.mitre.org (Julian C. Lander) writes:

  [about HMQE2]

>     ...But it isn't clear how much of it is hers and how much belongs
>to the Nation.  For example, the Nation owns Buckingham Palace, but the
>Queen owns Sandringham house (George VI had to buy it from the Duke
>of Windsor when the latter abdicated).  The Nation wons the pictures
>in the royal collection, but it is not clear who owns the stamp 
>collection: it began as a hobby of a king [I think George V], but
>it may now be considered to belong to the Nation.  And it's worth a
>lot of money.

I believe these things belong to the *Crown* -- there's a
subtle difference.

>The Queen has effectively more money than Madonna because she can
>expect to live at her current level of luxury indefinitely.  Madonna
>has to hope that her income keeps up enough so that she can live on
>unearned increment once she is no longer popular...

Hey, even at 2% in a passbook account, the Material Girl's
earnings thus far could keep her going in a modicum of comfort
for the next few decades.  And wait until "Sex" hits the
bookstands.  Oy!

                                                 ...(On the other hand,
>the Queen cannot retire.)

What/who's to stop her?  She could abdicate tomorrow if she
had a mind to.
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From: jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com (Jake Coughlin)
Subject: Re: enough already.
Originator: jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 14:08:27 GMT
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

bobsarv@microsoft.com (Bob Sarver):
> However, I will be watching to see what goes on.  Actually, *WE* will be
> watching.  Alan, Melmon, and I have formed the Anti-Cabal, the force of 
> Good to balance the Evil Cabal.  The forces of Good will endeavor to
> provide Order in the Universe, so be forewarned . . .

woooo, i'm shaking so badly -- can't you hear the pots
and pans banging?
-- 
Queer Without A Cause!
Jason Coughlin ( jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com )
"I find myself suddenly in the world, and I recognize that I have one
right alone: that of demanding human behavior of the other." -- Fanon
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From: frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney)
Subject: Re: demuffining
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:44:38 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Windows/DOS Users Ed Group

In article <1992Sep30.041021.1065@netcom.com> jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
[deletions]
>   
>   When sportsmen in the Dauphine hunt in September, they too are armed
>   with salt and with pepper.  If one of them happens to bag a plump,
>   perfect figpecker he plucks it, seasons it, carries it for a time in the
>   crown of his hat, and eats it.  Such gourmands insist that this is much
>   more delicious than the bird when roasted.
>   
>MF explains that "the saber-tasche or saber pouch is a kind of bag
>protected by a shield, which hangs from the shoulder strap where the
>light troops wear their sabers; it plays an important role in the tales
>which the soldiers tell among themselves."  I suppose that these days
>they would use them to carry condoms.

What a pity MF failed to explain what a figpecker is. The
mind boggles, or reels at the very least.

Quick, my salts!

-- 
Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
	"Well, I'm a little muddled." -- Glinda
From: pfieland@citron.sw.stratus.com (Peggy Fieland)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Frozen Green Tomatoes (was Re: Northern Exposure
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:25:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering

In article <1992Sep30.150034.2334@usl.edu> rhb@ucs.usl.edu (Bird Rendell H.) writes:
>(Gayla M. Worrell) writes:

>Am I the only person who wishes things were *less* subtle?
>
>I read the book by Fannie Flagg "Fried Green Tomatoes at the Whistle
>Stop Cafe" and this weekend I finally got around to seeing the movie
>_Fried Green Tomatoes_, and in neither medium did I think for even
>one minute that Idgie and Ruth were anything other than good, platonic
>friends.
>
>Does anyone else feel this way?
>
>
>
>Rendell
>
>--
>Lisa          : Look, Maggie, they have a baby like we do!
>Robbie/Bart   : Don't have a stegasaurus, man!
>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>Earl Sinclair : That's the trouble with TV; they find a premise that works and
>                then they do it *to death*.
>Baby Sinclair : Don't have a cow, man!

Well, I saw the movie, read the book, and heard a review of the movie
on NPR.  According to NPR, in the movie Idgie and Ruth were just good
friends, but the book portrayed them as lesbians.  This was before I
had read the book, BTW.  I agree that they were just friends in the
movie, but it certainly was never explicitly stated in the book that
they were other than friends.  I wasn't quite sure after reading the
book whether they were or not.

Anyone out there who got a clearer indication from the book that Idgie
and Ruth were lesbians?

Peggy.
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From: mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike Reaser)
Subject: Re: gay science fiction (and a moment of shamelessness...)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 12:50:25 GMT
Organization: a stone mountain of Kudzu

In <1992Oct5.034045.7676@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mritchie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael S Ritchie) writes:

>There's a great reference work, probably available in most university
>and many state or city libraries, called _Uranian Worlds_ which lists
>most fantasy and sf works published in the last 80 years or so with
>any kind of GLBO interest.  It seems quite complete (a second edition
>was issued around 1988 or so) and I recommend it highly.  Unfortunately,
>I forget the editor's names, but there can't be too many other books
>out there with that title.
>--Michael

I, too, have forgotten the editors' names (I _think_ it's the same as
"Kindred Spirits"), but I'm about 99.44% sure that it was published
by Alyson.


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From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: Kentucky Sodomy Law Repealed??
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:31:57 GMT

buckmr@lib110.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire) wrote: 
->>There was a message posted to the ACT-UP mailing list claiming that the 
->>Kentucky Supreme Court voted 4-3 to repeal theier same-sex only sodomy law.
->Apparently it's true.

the supreme court doesn't repeal laws; it decides they are
unconstitutional (unenforceable) ... unless the law is removed from
the books another supreme court can decide the law isn't
unconstitutional.  this is the state of affairs (!!) in massachusetts
now (their sodomy law was ruled unenforceable, but it remains on the
books).

the answer is to get the legislature to repeal these laws.

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
From: jns@elea.umd.edu (J. N. Shaumeyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Ours flamb'e
Date: 29 Sep 92 09:44:56 GMT
Organization: Militant Homosexual Lobby, Gay Lifestyles, Inc.


Jack Hamilton (jfh@netcom.com) warns
Frank "Heat-Wave" Swilling:
 
> You get that hot again and we'll have to send 
> some firemen over to hose you down.

Which came first: the firemen or the fire?

--jns
From: bfbear@penn.Gwinnett.COM (Penn Collins)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Bears in banking
Keywords: it's a long drive, but it might be worth it for some of you...
Date: 3 Oct 92 02:58:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: penn.iss2RB5w164w

crombie@iisat.alt.ns.ca writes:

> At the risk of encouraging more bear babble, I thought I'd share this
> exciting news from the heady world of ursine finance.
> 
<cough>
there can NEVER be enough "bear babble"...
growf!
From: weeks@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Greg Weeks)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 17:14:32 GMT
Subject: Re: Schlafly (continued...)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: soc.motss

>  not out to bash gay people," said Schlafly, who was "outed"
>  earlier this month by QW, a New York-based gay weekly.  He

Yay!  Go QW!
Newsgroups: soc.motss,soc.bi
From: fisher@ncselxsi.uucp (Chuck Fisher)
Subject: Re: Civil War in Oregon
Organization: National Computer Systems, San Jose, CA  95131
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:33:30 GMT

In article <mcmelmon-250992144005@mcmelmon.apple.com> you write:
>At Apple, do you think people stop me in the halls and say, "How
>can you write such evil, stupid drivel?"  Not once.  Does it come
>up at homosexual functions of perhaps a hundred people?  Not
>once.  Engineers one and all, with full (and completely anonymous, for
>that matter) access to the Internet any time they please.  

Point in fact, Melmon's postings *did* come up at the monthly ba.motss
dinner last week which was attended by well under 100 readers.  There
was discussion on just how obnoxious some of Mr. Melmon's postings had
been and how it was tarnishing Apple's image in the community.  It was
pointed out by an Apple employee that Mr. Melmon is a *contractor* and
not a full-time Apple employee.

Chuck
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From: crombie@iisat.alt.ns.ca
Subject: Bears in banking
Organization: Public Access UNIX
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 01:05:54 GMT
Keywords: it's a long drive, but it might be worth it for some of you...

At the risk of encouraging more bear babble, I thought I'd share this
exciting news from the heady world of ursine finance.

The local caisse populaire in New Brunswick's Miramichi region is called
Beaubear Credit Union. Seriously.

And in an effort to stimulate the local economy, it's giving out six-month
interest free loans to consumers for Christmas shopping -- up to $2,000.

The press release does not, however, give any bear code details about the
bank's staff.

-- 
Kevin Crombie		Public Access Unix
UUCP:  {dalcs,ulowell}!iisat!crombie
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From: fjvwing@cs.vu.nl (FJ!!)
Subject: crash
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 12:54:18 GMT

A some of you might know, on Sunday evening 18:45 local time, a Boeing
747 crashed on an appartment building in the outskirts of Amsterdam.

First the location: although technically still part of Amsterdam, the
Bijlmer is considered a suburb by most residents of Amsterdam. For
people that know a bit about Paris, think 'banlieu' : large appartment
blocks, cheap housing, not popular, very multi-ethnic, illegal aliens,
drugs, social engineering gone wrong, amidst spots and blocks of houses
where people actually want to live. The buildings afflicted are both
nine stories high.

It happened on a calm Sunday evening, when most people are at home,
watching the weekly sportscast. It is said that there was a party going
on in one of the communal rooms of the building.

At that time, an Israeli El-Al Boeing 747 freight-carrier lost two of
its engines, both from the same wing, as it flew over the central lake
in the middle of the Netherlands. It decided to turn and go back to
Schiphol, Amsterdam airport, where it had taken off some time before
that. According to the officials, it was executing it's emergency
maneuvers flawlessly, up until the last turn where the plane crashed
out of the sky on to the building. Fortunately, the pilot had released
a lot of fuel prior to that. The plane crashed right through the
building. Why the last maneuver went wrong is as yet still a mystery.

The next morning, 250 people were still missing in the turmoil - 88 are
reported to have been back - twelve bodies were found and twenty people
have been taken to hospital. Searching amidst the rubble is difficult
because of the danger that the rests of the building collapses.

No survivors are expected to be found.

Life is going on, but there was a general feeling Monday of
helplessness. There was nothing we could do. You seem to have to be
dead before skin can be donated.

The black box is still missing.

Israel has offered medical help, the Netherlands deemed that as not
necessary. Israeli specialists are flying over to inspect the remnants
of the plane. Condolances have been extended from all parts of the
world

Ob-motss: I live a couple of miles away.
							FJ!!
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From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Re: evil twins
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:25:40 GMT

fjvwing@cs.vu.nl (FJ!!) writes:

>roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips) writes:
>>If FJ!! seems to have cut off almost all of his hair

>You don't have to take my word for it, so ask Martin about the length
>of my hair since March.

You'd have to get a weave for the forelock...

>And the accent...Eamonn, what did you say once? "He's got the typical
>faggy American accent." ?

I'll believe it when I hear it (and I *will*, dammit!!!).

>FJ!! (who needs clippers because this apprentice-barber stuff
>is costing megabucks)

You *don't* have clippers yet? *snif* *I* got mine a few days after getting
the haircut, and haven't spent a dime on hair upkeep since (except for
shampoo and the occasional fixant) (oh yeah, and there was the time I
flooded the apartment and I had to buy replacement clippers because they
rusted) (and I almost had to buy *another* set because I'd been using
vegetable oil on the blades and they started getting really sticky but I
got some 3-in-1 oil and the clippers are just fine now thank you).

--
John Dorrance * Alleged Homosexual/Shameless Hussy * thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu

			Dark. Handsome. 6 feet tall.
		  31 flavors? I believe he's got 'em all!
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From: Arthur_T_Hu@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: soc.motss,ca.politics,soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: Northern Exposure
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 14:33:25 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

... it's a damn shame the two lesbians in the Northern Exposure weren't
Asian ...

Hmmm. That's an odd response, but if you looked carefully, there was a
Chinese family that had moved into town and was getting their picture
taken as the town was "on the upswing".  That the current show has no
Asians in it may imply  that, like many other Western town, the
Chinese population was driven or burned out in the late 1800's, or
perhaps the Japanese residents were removed to concentration camps in
the 40's. When I visited Truckee, a historic town near Lake Tahoe, the
historical society says that town burned out the Chinese not just once,
but five times. Now the only Chinese are American tourists that pass
through like me and read about its history.
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From: glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson)
Subject: Re: Heterosexuals (was Re: Faggots)
Originator: glp@merlin
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:59:50 GMT


In article <66806@cup.portal.com>, Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) writes:
 
|> This must be the explanation (at least partly) for the phenomenon
|> of the Gorgeous Blue-Collar Bear who is attached to a woman who
|> is distinctly on the plain side.  Somebear should *talk* to these
|> poor hunky souls and let them in on the fact that (1) they are
|> *not* the ugly brutes they've been told they are, and (2) in fact
|> there are *hordes* of gay Bear-Lovers waiting to jump their furry
|> bones.

Not to point out the obvious, but not all attractive
straight men who marry less-than-gorgeous women do so 
because they can't "do better".  Love, and all that.

I have to admit, though, that when I seen a big hot
burly man with anyone who doesn't appreciate them
(female or male) I think that he deserves better.

-- 
Greg Parkinson                  Phone: 212-657-7814  Fax: 212-825-8607
Citibank,111 Wall Street        E-Mail: glp@fig.citib.com
New York, New York  10043
The opinions expressed are my own and not those of the big 'ol bank.
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From: fisher@ncselxsi.uucp (Chuck Fisher)
Subject: Re: Explanation of AB-2601
Organization: National Computer Systems, San Jose, CA  95131
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:39:19 GMT

In article <jggz-fd@rpi.edu> buckmr@lib110.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire) writes:
>So, does anyone know if sexual orientation housing discrimination is illegal
>in California?

Not state-wide, but a number of municipalities specifically forbid
discrimination based on sexual orientation.  I'm a resident of Mtn.
View which posts a housing anti-discrimination advert in the city's
monthly newspaper which is mailed to residents.  A number is published
for people who may have questions or to file complaints.

When I was looking for an apartment to rent several years ago, I was
handed a document by one complex (which had past problems with
discrimination) that indicated my rights under the city ordinance.  I
had to have an "appointment" to be shown an apartment and I was told
that each prospective renter was treated in the same manner in order to
avoid the chance for discrimination in housing.  My guess is that the
complex must have lost some lawsuit and didn't intend on repeating the
problem.

Chuck
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Subject: politics of panels
From: alto@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 30 Sep 92 11:37:36 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University

I'm doing a research project on the politics of panels and am not having much
luck. If you have any information on panels, been on panels, or seen a panel,
I'd like to hear from you.
thanks.
From: ro@panix.com (r l reid)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:00:13 GMT
Organization: MOTSS CABAL, NO MORE CHINESE FOOD DIVISION

>I happen to be comfortable in 501's and t-shirts/flannel shirts/
>chambray shirts; 

It amazes me how loudly people can hold forth against "fashion",
while wearing only the most stylish of jeans.


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		r l reid	ro@panix.com
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From: mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik)
Subject: Re: TERMS OF ENDEARMENT
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:13:05 GMT
Organization: (getting there)

dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer), out of sympathy for Greg Parkinson, writes:
 >My aunt (my mother's sister), and no one else, used to call me "Pookie".
 >I never figured out why,

Why she did or why nobody else did?

Mara [who considers this a really _important_ question]

-- 

  Mara Chibnik
  mara@panix.com                Life is too important to be taken seriously.
From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Madonna offers haven to Diana
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:33:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1992Sep30.153337.10218
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

According to Reuters news service, Madonna has invited Princess Diana to
move into her apartment in America so that Diana can have some privacy. 

Madonna said "I have weeks off, and she doesn't.  It's hideous.  Nobody
really knows what this girl is going through." 

[I wonder who has more money, Madonna or Prince Charles?  Certainly Prince
Charles has (or will have) better jewelry.  But there aren't many occasions
when wearing the Star of India wouldn't be overdressing.]


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From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Toys 'r' Us
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:45:31 GMT

In article <thaaang.718352502@cwis> thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:

>					Listen up, muthafuckas. One time
>					and one time only. Again. THREE
>					e's - like 3 dots in an ellipsis
>					or 3 e's in Deee-Lite Or 3 kings
>					of Orient are or 3 leaves and a
>					berry or 3 blind muthafuckin' mice.
>					None of this 2 e crap;

Sorry, Miss Theeeng.

-- 
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\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /  penis envy is here and it's now and it's
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /  all around you." -- Neal C. Wickham
From: randyc@autodesk.com (Randy Clark)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Motssers in history
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:55:47 GMT
Organization: Autodesk, Inc., Sausalito, CA


In article <ROBERTL.92Oct3011955@luciano.Stanford.EDU>
robertl@luciano.Stanford.EDU (Robert Lodenkamper) writes:
>In article <1992Oct2.075802.3074@reed.edu> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
writes:
>
>   I thought about trying to put together a list of motssers who have
>   had things published...
>
>   But then I started thinking some more and realized that a list of
>   published motssers would be quite large.

Heh!  As a writer, I'm sure that anyone who *can* respond,
will!  And I agree -- in this group we probably have
quite a few published folk.
>
>Does a paper in "Electronic Letters" count?

Why wouldn't it?
>
>- Bob

Nelson, hon,

Since we have a crippled news-feed, I didn't see
your original article.  Could you please post it
again or email me a copy?

Thanks,

-R


--
Ignorant people think it's the *noise* which fighting cats make
that is so aggravating, but it ain't so; it's the sickening
grammar they use.  -- Mark Twain
Randy Clark			{}!autodesk.com!randyc
From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Paul Jabara
Date: Sat,  3 Oct 92 14:08:08 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Oct1.164848.6486@nevada.edu> <1992Oct1.175808.3215@macc.wisc.edu>
  <1992Oct2.184922.2547@fig.citib.com>

Greg Parkinson writes:
>Paul Jabara, a songwriter, singer and actor who won
>an Academy Award in 1979 for writing the disco hit
>"Last Dance," died on Tuesday at his home in Los
>Angeles.  He was 44 years old.
>
>He died after a long illness, a spokesman for  
>Kaleidoscope Films said.

How sad... as all such notices are.  That last sentence
just *SCREAMS* "CODE WORDS" to me, though....

>His other songwriting credits include "The Main Event"
>performed by Barbara Streisand; "Enough is Enough" sung
>as a duet by Ms. Streisand and [Donna] Summer; "Work
>That Body" by Diana Ross; "It's Raining Men" by the
>Weathergirls, and "Two Lovers" by Julio Iglesias.
>Mr. Jabara was also a producer of Ms. Streisand's
>Grammy Award-winning "Broadway Album."

*WHAT*?  No mention of "Ocho Rios?"  ;-{)##]
 
() Let us pay each other the compliment of not lying to each
() other.
()      -- Anais Nin
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From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: TERMS OF ENDEARMENT
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 03:46:34 GMT


In article <23931@sybase.sybase.com> black@sybase.com
(Christina Black) writes:

>Although I suppose that if David called Jim 'Ron', Jim _would_ find it
>grating, and might call David 'Dean' in retaliation.

God, don't tell me you can keep track!  I'm impressed!

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