From: rechtien@ganymed.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (Jens-Heiner Rechtien)
Subject: Re: Ty ne prav, Vadim!
Organization: University of Osnabrueck, FRG
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 02:27:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.171815.10153@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu> sasha@ldgo.columbia.edu (Alexander Krupitsky) writes:
>
>	Vadim Antonov writes:
>
>>In article <Bx6ErE.MwE@news.cso.uiuc.edu> didinsky@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (didinsky garry) writes:

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>>Don't you think that resurrection of antisemitism in Germany
>>after WWII was mostly caused by Jews who keeps reprimaning people
>>of crimes their grandfathers did? Nobody forgot. What happened
>
>>Don't you think that resurrection of antisemitism in Germany
>>after WWII was mostly caused by Jews who keeps reprimaning people
>>of crimes their grandfathers did? Nobody forgot. What happened
>>you can't mend. But if you're trying to live on it forever you'll
>>be basically telling the people that they're shit because of
>>what THEIR nation did to YOURS. 
>
>So they'd be better off keeping their mouth shut and never remember
>what happened. Very nice.
>

Well, I should be pleased from the idea that the new growing pest
of neo-nazis is just a result of everyone telling us that we (I'am
german) are guilty of the crimes of our grandfathers. If this were 
so easy we just have to sing a few time the national anthem and
everything would be alright. 

What a bullshit!!!! 

The very few Jews which lived in Germany after WWII (I understand that
they needed a lot of courage to do so after all what happend, so they have 
my wholehearted respect) remembered of course the Germans sometimes
about what happened. This was just good so, because in the '50 or '60
the (West)Germans were somewhat eager to forget their recent history. 
While it is true (and completly agreeable) that younger Germans grow up
whith some knowledge about the history of their nation and
the catastrophic failure of the Germans during the third reich, they sureley
get no impression that they are of less value just because they are 
Germans. It is true, that many are not very proud of being a German,
no wonder, but this does not mean that they do not accept the role
Germany played after WWII (which was not that bad, especially in the
west, but also in the east.) 

The new problem with this foreigner hating mob has a lot of reasons,
mainly econmically problems, but surely not the one mentioned above.
I realise that it must sound somewhat strange in this newsgroup, but 
the german economic isn't in its best shape nowadays. Well, everything
has it's price, and the unification had a big pricestamp on it. 
The big majority of Germans is scared about the uprising neo-nazis
and the rivots happening in Rostock and elsewhere (east _and_ west).
While the neonazis are not yet a relevant sozial group they are
important enough to to raise a big discussion in Germany how to get 
rid of them. It is even possible that the government will make
some moves in panic that we will regret later (e.g the discussion
about asylum). 

I post this, because I think that Germany is an especially bad
argument when talking (and defending) antisemitism.

[rest deleted]

>
>>--vadim
>
>			Sasha


Regards,

Jens-Heiner Rechtien
Department of Physics, University of Osnabrueck, FRG
Internet: rechtien@dosuni1.rz.uni-osnabrueck.de
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