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From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: haircut tips for 4-5 month old?
Date: 24 Jan 1993 13:34:24 -0600
Organization: Delco Electronics Corporation
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hi folks,

here's another problem in which your wisdom is needed. Is there any
easy way to cut the hair of a 4-5 month old? 

Our daughter was right around the point where hair came down her NOSE 
in the front and 2-3 inches in the back; braids and perms were out :-)
so we got scissors, camera, and off we went. 

Turned out it was a major fight. The back was easy (pin baby tummy down
on bed, cut) but the front was challenging beyond belief. We succeeded
after she was sedated by formula :-) but I'm sure there's got to be a
safer way. 

Since her hair is growing by leaps and bounds we'll be in this for a while,
so any pointers on cutting hair on an infant will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Spiros
-- 
Spiros Triantafyllopoulos                    c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com
Software Technology, Delco Electronics       (317) 451-0815
GM Hughes Electronics, Kokomo, IN 46904      [A Different Kind of Disclaimer]
From: valjorge@leapyear.EBay.Sun.COM (Valerie Jorge)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Trip to remote island with 8 month old, what would you take along?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 20:21:10 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: leapyear.ebay.sun.com



How about water?  And when can you use sunscreen on infants?
I read that you weren't supposed to use it on infants, but
don't remember for how long.  

Valerie


In article <1993Jan27.152007.14276@crd.ge.com> millerj@belize.crd.ge.com (Julia K. Miller) writes:
>
>	We're going to a resort on a remote island off of Hondouras next
>month.  I want to try to bring medicines for most possible situations since
>I won't be able to run out to the store.  So far I've got:
>
>1) baby tylenol
>2) baby cough medicine
>3) baby oragel
>4) baby poison treatment stuff (I foret the name - syrup of something)
>5) baby diaper rash treatment
>6) disposable diapers
>7) baby food & cereal
>8) clothing
>9) baby suntan lotion
>10) baby thermometer
>11) baby soap and shampoo
>12) toys
>
>
>	Anything obvious that I'm missing?
>
>
>Julia


Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: d8b@sgfb.ssd.ray.com (Denise M. Boudria)
Subject: Re: Things you do to save time
Organization: Raytheon Submarine Signal Division
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:16:25 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.144503.25075@crd.ge.com> dudding@sallyride.crd.ge.com (Kate Dudding) writes:
>Here are a few find time examples as well as a save time one.
>
[some very good suggestions deleted to save space]

>Problem: minimize grocery shopping time.
>
>Solution: only use one grocery store.  Create a shopping list, organized by the
>store's aisles, of the things you most frequently buy.  When you run out of
>something during the week, circle that item on the list (with a red pen).
>Before going shopping, use the list to see if you're low on any item.  This way,
>I only go shopping once a week, at most, and rarely run out of an item.  Sample
>of my list is below (yes, I keep it on-line so we can add items to it, and we can
>also accommodate changes in the store layout).
>
>PRODUCE:
>     ORANGES, LEMONS, LIMES, GRAPES, APPLES, TOMATOES, MUSHROOMS,  SPINACH,  
>     LETTUCE,  DIET  SALAD DRESSING, SCALLIONS, CARROTS, CELERY, BANANAS
>
>FRESH FISH
>
>2    APPLESAUCE, CANNED PINEAPPLE, PICKLES,  OLIVES,  MAYONNAISE, MUSTARD, VINEGAR
>
>3    RAISINS, DATES,  FLOUR  (WHITE,  WHOLE  WHEAT),  SUGAR, COCONUT, PAM, OIL
>
I do this exact same thing.  I also store my coupons in a file box with
separator cards in the same order {aisle 1}, {aisle2}, etc.

>-- 
>Kate Dudding                                   dudding@crd.ge.com
>GE Corporate Research and Development
>Bldg. KW, Room C315
>PO Box 8, Schenectady, NY 12301                (518) 387-7164

Denise
From: glen@slate.cs.wisc.edu (Glen Ecklund)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Teflon Danger (was: Leaving kids alone)
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:44:11 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences

cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf) writes:

>A story that happened in Kristiansund, a small city not far from here:
>Yesterday (Wednesday) a 2 year 3 month old girl died of burns she
>received in a house fire on Monday.  Her father (no mention was made
>in the paper of her mother) left her alone in the house for a
>half-hour.  The fire fighters believe she turned on one of the burners
>on the stove, on which was a pot with some food still in it, and this
>started the fire.  She was unconscious when they got her out of the
>house, and never woke up.

>To me, 2 years is clearly far too young to be left alone at all... i
>wonder why the father did that 8-(

>-Cindy Kandolf
> cindy@solan.unit.no
> Trondheim, Norway

This reminds me:  Teflon (Silverstone, TFal, etc) is normally pretty inert,
but can generate toxic fumes when severely overheated, like in the case of
a dry pan on a very hot stove.  I wonder if this is what killed her.
I don't recommend against it's use, but it is probably best never to leave
it unattended on the stove.
-- 
--
Every child shall be treated with complete respect.

Glen Ecklund     glen@cs.wisc.edu   (608) 262-1318 Office, 262-1204 Dept. Sec'y
Department of Computer Sciences        1210 W. Dayton St., Room 3355
University of Wisconsin, Madison       Madison, Wis. 53706  U.S.A.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: alper@sushi.psych.nwu.edu (Theodore M. Alper)
Subject: Re: A few facts about circumcision
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:31:45 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.162656.6962@cbnews.cb.att.com> lib@cbnews.cb.att.com (Lib) writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.202617.2000@news.acns.nwu.edu> alper@sushi.psych.nwu.edu (Theodore M. Alper) writes:
>>
>>2) Anecdotal evidence seems to indicate that, in later years, my son 
>>   stands a better chance of finding others willing to perform oral sex 
>>   upon him should he be circumcised. (Admittedly, should he be gay, the 
>>   odds change: some porn seems to indicate that uncircumcised penises are
>>   more desired --- though private communications make it clear that
>  
>Run that by me again. You're saying that there are a reasonable amount
>of women who, assuming they are at a level of involvement with a man
>that they will consider fellating him, change their minds based on the
>fact that a guy is uncircumcised? Does anybody else think that?
>

Absolutely. This is getting beyond the scope of misc.kids, but don't
people generally only perform sexual acts that are pleasurable for
everyone involved? Just because you love someone, it doesn't mean you 
automatically do everything they like, in bed or out. Real life involves
compromise at every level. Heck, I KNOW of couples who refrain from oral
sex because one or the other (and not always the one you think) thinks
it's gross. That doesn't mean they have to get a divorce, does it? So
anything which makes the act seem less gross to my son's future friends
makes the compromise more likely.

(Then, too, not all physical relationships are between those who 
 are devoted to one another. Frankly, if Morris avoids these relationships,
 I don't think he's missing much, but it still technically contributes to
 my answer of "absolutely".)

Besides, who wants to be fellated by someone who finds doing it to 
you distasteful? (oh, geez, half the men under 25 are thinking "I do" -- 
but I mean adults.) 
-- 
Theodore Alper					alper@sushi.psych.nwu.edu
The penguin's credo: If God had meant for birds to fly, he wouldn't
have given them wings.
---
From: donnah@Autodesk.COM (Donna Hill)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Kaiser S.F.
Keywords: doctor
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:17:20 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA

Anybody have an OB/GYN doctor from Kaiser S.F. they would like to 
recommend?  I'm using Kaiser S.F. for my first pregnancy, and
have all these amnio/CVS issues to deal with, since I'll be 36
when I deliver (if all goes well).

Thanks.
From: hough@seismo.gps.caltech.edu (Susan Hough)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Thumb Sucking
Date: 22 Jan 1993 19:01:33 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: earth.gps.caltech.edu
Summary: save up a _really_ good bribe!

In article <1jpc5mINNs0e@mizar.usc.edu> biddleco@mizar.usc.edu (Susan Biddlecomb) writes:
>In article <8fLkZ=i00UhWE5SRpT@andrew.cmu.edu> Nancy Monda <nm0b+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>> Now that he's in Kindergarten, I'm really getting nervous that he'll
>>NEVER stop!
>>
>Well, this probably isn't what you want to hear ... but my younger sister 
>sucked her thumb all the way through college! She finally stopped (so she
>says) when she got married at age 29.

My daughter sucked her thumb at bedtime and when she was very tired or
worried--she didn't do it in such a way that it affected her teeth
(some kids pull on the teeth, some don't) and I figured there was no
harm in it.  But as she got older, it really did seem strange to see
an 8-year old with her thumb in her mouth.  I also worried that one of
her friends would see it some day and tease her.  Finally, during one
of her, "why can't I pierce my ears" speeches (I had been telling her
that she could, when she was 13), a light bulb went on & I made a deal
with her--pierced ears in exchange for an end to the thumbsucking.

She later told me that she slept on her hands the first night, but after
a few days, she said that it doesn't even seem appealing to her
anymore.  Her ears get pierced next week.

Now, a little boy might not be so easily swayed with the same bribe  ;o)
but if he's still sucking his thumb in a couple of years, there may
well be something else that he _really_ _really_ wants that would
make a good bribe.  I wouldn't try it with a 5-yr old, though.

Sue 
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: esther@verdix.com (Esther Lumsdon)
Subject: Re: Is There A Mommy Track for Technical Professionals?
Organization: Verdix Corp
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:09:09 GMT

keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard) writes:

>In article <1993Jan19.061356.14467@fuug.fi> an6814@anon.penet.fi writes:
>>I'd like to work part-time in order to spend more time with my infant,
>>It seems as if a part-time career is non-existent in software engineering
>>and in professional/technical jobs in general.  It's looked down upon,
>>I am torn.  On one hand, I've got lots of time invested in an education
>>and a career.  On the other, these first precious months of my baby's
>>life will never come again.  My husband's job pays twice what mine does,
>>A Mommy seeking a balance

>OK.  I'll accept your statement not wanting to start an argument
>about choosing a career versus motherhood.  There is a viable
>alternative for you, however.  Shift work.  I know of several

Yeah, I've heard of shift work, too.  I can think of 2 companies who
have it widely available:  IBM and Westinghouse.  I hear that hiring
prospects aren't that great at either company these days.  There
isn't a great deal of shift work available for people who aren't
qualified to be machinists, pipefitters or nurses.

>working shifts means that time together is short.  But let's face it,
>you chose to have the younguns, so you are going to have to sacrifice
>SOMEWHERE, whether it's taking your younguns to a daycare center, 
>or working part-time [if possible] or staying at home and raising
>the younguns and adjusting your lifestyle to a lower income.  
>Obviously, these things should have been thought about BEFORE you
>had the younguns, but you now have to live with your mistake.  
>Whatever you do, please do your co-workers a favor and choose one
>or the other.  Don't shortchange them by staying at home when the
>youngun coughs one time, or rush out in the afternoon when the
>school calls to have you pick up the youngun cause he sneezed.  
>Your coworkers deserve to have someone there that they can depend on
>to do their share.

I really dislike this sentiment.
-- 
-- Esther Lumsdon, not speaking for Verdix.   esther@verdix.com
Q: How many user support people does it take to change a light bulb?
A: We have an exact copy of the light bulb here and it seems to be
   working fine.  Can you tell me what kind of system you have?
From: anita@devvax.mincom.oz.au (Anita Graham)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Girls names - "M"
Date: 25 Jan 93 05:22:50 GMT
Organization: Mincom

Our ex-neighbours (we moved recently) have a daughter called Mattea. They
said it is the feminine of Matthew, and they pronounce it Matty. I think
another pronunciation would be Matt-ay-a. (Without being too critical,
I think that Matt-ay-a is the "real" way to say it.) Until I saw it
written I had always assumed her name to be Matilda, as they have a
dutch background and I think Mathilde would be more common there, than
Matilda is here, nowdays.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Anita Graham
anita@mincom.oz.au
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: jsattle@andy.bgsu.edu (jason sattler)
Subject: Re: Book repair
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 22:56:20 GMT

>	Another way you can keep your child's books from being torn up
is by taking them to a Teacher's Bookstore (i.e. Holcomb's) and having
them laminated.  This works especially well if the book has been stapled
together; just remove the staples, laminate each page, and staple them
back together.  This has worked well for me before.  I use this for the
books in my 18 mo. - 36 mo. children in my classroom.  I hope it works
for you!!!!

	Nickie
	jsattle@dad.bgsu.edu
From: skatz@bbn.com (Susan Katz)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: July deliveries/teaching hospitals (was Re: students/interns at delivery)
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:35:27 GMT
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: kariba.bbn.com
In-reply-to: oispeggy@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu's message of 22 Jan 93 14:27:00 GMT

Most residencies start July 1st.  Delivering a baby at a teaching
hospital in July can be interesting.  A friend of mine had a 1st year
intern attempt to install an internal baby monitor.  After a lot of
hassle (including reading a Intro OB text book in front of my friend!),
the resident declared that her gloves were the wrong size!  That was
my friend's first kid.  In hindsight she would have put a stop to that
resident's work when the text book popped out.

I also had a baby in July.  I found the residents to be wonderful, so
I was lucky.  I did have one medical student visit me often during my
inducement (it took a while to get started), who was very
knowledgeable and very personable.  During the transition phase of
labor, another med student stopped in.  It was his first day or week
on the Labor and Delivery floor.  I didn't say a word to him and he
didn't say a word to me.  My husband was under orders to get rid of
anyone who was a nuisance, but this guy wasn't bothering me.  Finally
he said, "I guess this isn't a good time for you now" and he left.  I
have to say that he really cracked me up, and as well as I was able, I
laughed!

Any more July 1st-year-resident stories?
Xref: sparky misc.kids:33436 misc.jobs.misc:8919
From: ahelmers@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids,misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Is There A Mommy Track for Technical Professionals?
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:08:07 EST
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

In article <1993Jan22.033624.531739@locus.com>, judy@locus.com (Judy Tryer) writes:

> I also took a "grunt" project, which helped.  No one else wanted the job,
> I was doing it really REALLY well, and so they let me do it on my terms.


A comment--the above can be a very good piece of advice for a part-timer. 
Another post, from Maureen Busch, noted that often a PT worker doesn't get the
same chance to shine on big, high-profile projects.  So, Judy's advice in the
category of "got lemons-make lemonade", is on the money.

I did exactly this, took on a project that nobody else wanted to do.  It came
off very well and I got a lot of good PR from it.  Actually, it came off so
well that I get to do it again next year :), but that's okay.  

The point is, there are ways to make yourself valuable even if you are not
willing to commit to being there 40 hours/week.  And as Judy pointed out
elsewhere in this post, a happy part-timer can be just as beneficial to the
company.

Ann Helemrs
From: janem@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com (Jane Marcus)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 14:45:33 GMT
Subject: Barbie reigns supreme
Organization: HP Fort Collins, Co.
Newsgroups: misc.kids

Emily just had her 5th birthday yesterday.  She had asked for a blonde 
Barbie for X-mas and didn't get one from anybody, and since she 
was specific in her request, I decided to get her one for her birthday 
(even though I don't much like Barbie).  

Emily: (opens fingerpaints) Fingerpaints!  Thanks!
       (opens felt board)  Thanks!
       (opens Barbie) My beautiful Barbie!  I love it, I love it, I love
	it!  You're the best mom and dad in the whole world! (gives
	mom and dad a kiss) Let's try on Barbie's pink skirt.....

	(opens bead craft set) Thanks for the beads.  They'll look great on
	Barbie!


Well, so much for gender neutral toys (sigh).  My husband can't get over
the fuss Emily's making about Barbie and has a little fun of his own:

Gordon: Since you already have a brown haired Barbie, maybe you should
	call your new Barbie something else.  What do you think you'll
	call her?
(Emily is thinking)

Gordon:  How about Gennifer Flowers?
Emily:   No!
Gordon:  Donna Rice?
Emily:   No!
Gordon:  Jessica Hahn?
Emily:   No!  She has such beautiful blonde long hair.  I think her name
	 is Rapunzel.

So there, mom and dad!

Jane Marcus
jane@apollo.hp.com
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: riggle@adobe.com (Kathleen Riggle)
Subject: PLEASE RESEND: requests for FAQ's
Followup-To: riggle@adobe.com
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:42:06 GMT

I'm afraid that I've lost some requests for FAQ's.  One minute they
were there; the next they weren't.  If you requested the mail order
catalog FAQ or the children's book FAQ in the last week and haven't
yet received it from me, it's because I lost your request.  Please send
me another request.

Sorry,
Kathie
-- 
riggle@mv.us.adobe.com
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: exusag@exu.ericsson.se (Serena Gilbert,cs,x0364)
Subject: Re: Help! - comforting bitee...
Reply-To: exusag@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:49:23 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.
From: judy@locus.com (Judy Tryer)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Branding kids, IQ tests, smart vs dumb (Was: Re: Seminar Program)
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:51:32 GMT
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California

Too many attributes so I'm cutting them rather than confusing them:

>>>All children, regardless of test scores, should be encouraged to
>>>work hard and do the best they can. 
>>
>>This notion that hard work is what is important in learning is a
>>horrible mistake.
>
>IMHO, this notion that hard work is NOT what is important in learning
>is a horrible mistake.  You want to talk about horror, putting the
>notion in our children's heads that "there IS such a thing as a free
>lunch, I DON'T have to work to learn" will fill our welfare roles with
>deadbeats, our streets with dropouts, our companies with menials, and
>our government with a bunch of self-centered tribal chieftain mentality
>bandits.  Do you think we'll learn anything from THAT?
>

Balance is what is needed here.  The idea that you can overcome any obstacle
with hard work is as much a lie as the idea that you don't have to put any
effort into anything in order to learn it.

What we need to be teaching our children is to match their natural gifts
with the right amount of "work" that they can excel in their own way.  But,
they must also recognize their own limitations, if for no other reason than
to learn to accomodate those limitations.

All the violin practice in the universe will not make a violinist out
of someone with a tin ear, or even someone with no talent for making the
violin sing (which was my case - technically proficient and lacking in soul).
But, someone who is gifted will benefit from the extra work and will learn 
that through hard work in an area where natural talent leads is productive.

My natural talents lie in writing.  I write fiction for a hobby.  And I can
tell when a story isn't working because it is too hard to write; it takes
too much work.  The good stories write themselves.  The good characters speak
their own lines.  Working too hard is an indicator that I am going in the wrong
direction.

There is every reason to debunk the myth that hard work is the key to 
anything.  Sometimes it isn't.  And sometimes there is a free lunch.  
-- 
Judy Leedom Tyrer

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions"	- William Blake
From: jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (Jeremy Henderson)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: manual pages for baby
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:58:39 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University



BABY(1)                  USER COMMANDS                    BABY(1)

NAME
     BABY - create new process from two parent processes

SYNOPSIS

     BABY [ -sex ] [ -name ]

DESCRIPTION

     BABY is initiated when one parent process polls another server
process through a socket connection (BSD) or through pipes in the
System V implementation. BABY runs at a low priority for approximately
40 weeks then terminates with heavy system load. Most systems require
constant monitoring when BABY reaches its final stages of execution.

        Older implementations of BABY required that the initiating
process not be present at the time of completion. In these versions
the initiating process is awakened and notified of the results upon
completion. Modern versions allow both parent processes to be active
during the final stages of BABY.


OPTIONS

        -sex 
          option indicating type of process created. 

        -name
          process identification to be attached to the new process.

RESULT
     Successful execution of the BABY(1) results in new process
     being created and named. Parent processes then typically
     broadcast messages to all other processes informing them of their
     new status in the system.


BUGS
     The SLEEP command may not work on either parent processes for some
     time afterward, as new BABY processes constantly send interrupts
     which must be handled by one or more parent.
 
     BABY processes upon being created may frequently dump 
     in /tmp requiring /tmp to be cleaned out frequently by one
     of the parent processes.

SEE ALSO
        sleep(1) dump(8) cry(3)


-- 
===Jeremy Henderson===jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk=          

Unauthorised access is a criminal offence under The Computer Misuse Act 1990.
If you are a British Airways employee, disconnect NOW.
From: ck270@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Andrea Von Ahnen)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Developmental Milestones: Survey
Date: 22 Jan 1993 20:26:21 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


A bit off the subject, but I have a comment about the parenting
books and their opinions on where babies should be developmentally
at certain ages.  For the most part I've found that these books
report milestone "averages" that are way behind the averages I
observe from my own kids, friends' kids, family's kids, and the
general public I run into.  For instance, (as Diane Segelhorst
wrote) one of the books reports that kids sit unassisted on
average at 9 months.  I don't know many kids who weren't doing
this by 6-7 months.  My guess is the books do this to make
parents feel particularly confident about their children who
are excelling :) and also to avoid alarming parents whose kids
might be a bit slow but not dangerously slow (i.e. doesn't need
to be examined for abnormalities).
  
Andi    (Mom to Aaron, Alexander, and 3 wee ones due 3/93)
Newsgroups: misc.kids