From: bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi)
Subject: It's too much
Organization: Dangerously Implemented
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 10:48:04 GMT

In article <28600030@hplred.HP.COM> moussavi@hplred.HP.COM (Farshid Moussavi)
writes:

SalAm farshid khAn:

****  This is not a criticism, but an observation.  I offer it as an observer
****  and I have no doubt that you did not mean it, but I would like to show
****  that how DANGEROUS it is to _emulate_ some people's style, even for the
****  sole purpose of demonstration.  - HFN

>use your own highly advanced tactics on you to see how it feels:
>
>Seyyed, I think you are exhibiting the behavior that you do because you
>really need a husband.  Let's face it, you need one good act of LavAT
>to lighten up your life.  After all, what else could be the cause of your
>frustration besides not getting f***ed enough?

So far you are heavily involved to mimic the poster's earlier post in an
attempt to demonstrate to HIM that his post was not nice.

>Now, I'm sure there are some
>nice homosexuals in our community who are reading this net, and would love to
>satisfy your each and every desire!

'kAkA, kharAb kardi.'  I resent the above characterization.  Once you try
to emulate a person's post, you will try to your best ability to write like
that person and in the process you might insult innocent people.  Those nice
homosexuals in _our_ community (ie, sci) were not and are not part of the
recent discussion between you and Seyyed.  Again, I would like to reiterate
that I perfectly understand that you are not against the Iranian homosexuals
but 'oomadi abrooro dorost koni, zadi cheshmo ham koor kardi.'  Besides,
even if our Iranian homosexuals read this net, I doubt if they would like
to consider the thought. :-)

The problem as I see it is that your attempt _characterized_ homosexuals as
bunch of sex-thirsty people who would go after anyone including Seyyed just
to satisfy their urges.  It is the _characterization_ that I am questioning
even though my vantage point was not within your 'daricheh' because you were
sincerely focusing on emulating Seyyedian mentality.

The level of mentality you are trying to expose here is already known to sci.
There is no reason to resort to _dangerous adventures_ like above to prove
a case that every one at sci is aware of.  In the above example, homosexuals
were used as an object to demonstrate that is Seyyed dids not speak nice.  It
was _uncalled_ for, IMHO.

>I hope you now see the level of your mentality.  Even if you don't, the rest
>of the readers do, and that's what counts.

True!  I would respecfully take the position that if sci readers see the level
of Syyedian mentality, then why would they even want to re-enact the alleged
attitude (read not being nice)?  'aslan man mikhAm bedoonam' where does this
urge to 'sarkoob' people like Seyyed originate from?  Is this a co-dependency
situation in which both parties need each other in order to survive?  I
sincerely doubt it.

Now if by repeating a sick mentality you are trying to change the person,
that is another story.  But, it still does not justify us to characterize
innocent people.  I hope you would take these words as another perspective.

Reading your earlier posts farshid, I would comment that - with all due
respect to you - you are not and cannot even get close to those sick
mentalities.  It's not in you man!  You ain't have it, so don't even try to
emulate it because your implementation would create a poor one.  I have
read so much positive and rational discussions from you that I wonder why
one would even want to offer the opposite of what s/he is good at.

>In fact, a girl like Mahin would be raped 
>and executed for what she has said, and it is mentalities like yours that 
>justify this. THIS is the relevance.

This is a fine statement.  It is also a very true statement.  It is obvious
that here by Mahin it is meant people who support a Mahinian mentality.

'Scotty, beam us back.' [(c) Captain Kirk, 60's]
Happy coming back to reason and logic.  :-)

Regards,
Hooshyar F. Naraghi
bavafa@netcom.com
(415) 322-8056

PS.  I do not support the act of homosexuality, although I respect homosexual
people just like the rest of _us_ humans for they are 'people' first.

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