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From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Subject: Re: Holiday Road Period
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 20:49:23 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Reply-To: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)

jeremy@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Jeremy Gibbons) writes:

> mdh@gaya.gp.co.nz (Martin D. Hunt) writes:
> 
> >1. Why do people have to come over the centre line when the road curves to 
> >the right? 
> 
> To smooth the journey out. The less braking, accelerating and turning you
> have to do, the less tired and inattentive you will be. 

Wow. So that's why the Yanks built their interstate freeway system? They knew
even back then in the 60s that all those tricky corners and stuff were causing
horrendous accidents, because drivers were just plain tuckered out from going
around all those wiggly corners. Whaddya know?

Let's cut the bullshit, shall we? I drift across the centre line when cornering
because I want to go FAST. Everyone else drifts across the centre line because
they want to go fast. If you're genuinely doing it because you have a problem
with staying attentive at the wheel I think you should really question whether
you should be allowed to drive.

						- k

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Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Holiday Road Period
From: jeremy@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Jeremy Gibbons)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:33:09 GMT
 <1993Jan7.221101.1905@gaya.gp.co.nz>,<1993Jan11.043936.17008@cs.aukuni.ac.nz> <1iuampINN23a@golem.wcc.govt.nz>
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland

In <1iuampINN23a@golem.wcc.govt.nz> gardner_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (andy gardner) writes:

>In article <1993Jan11.043936.17008@cs.aukuni.ac.nz>, jeremy@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Jeremy Gibbons) writes:
>>In <1993Jan7.221101.1905@gaya.gp.co.nz> mdh@gaya.gp.co.nz (Martin D. Hunt) writes:
>>
>>>1. Why do people have to come over the centre line when the road curves to 
>>>the right? 
>>
>>To smooth the journey out. The less braking, accelerating and turning you
>>have to do, the less tired and inattentive you will be.

>BullShit!
[...]
>Either smarten up your driving skills or surrender your licence now so
>that you don't injure somebody!

If you go back and read my message more carefully, you will note that
nowhere do I mention *my* driving habits. So let's not get personal.

>Crap! You're assuming that all the cars coming in the other direction will
>be driving as sedately as you do.  

Indeed, and I observed exactly the same fact in my message: this is not
necessarily a valid assumption, and so the manouevre is not necessarily a
good idea.

Jeremy

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Newsgroups: nz.general
From: paul@actrix.co.at (Paul Gillingwater)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Test posting -- what's new for NZ?
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 19:29:25 ECT
Distribution: nz
Organization: Home Office in Vienna, Austria

 As well as testing whether I can post into nz.general from Austria, I'd
 like to ask people over there what they expect for the new year in
 EnZed.  What major changes are going to occur this year?  Is there an
 election coming up, and how does the economy look?

 Also, I'm quite curious to hear more about what happened with the legal
 case(s) between Clear and Telecom.  Anyone know anything about that?

 Thanks, and have a happy new year, or as they say in Austria, "Guten
 Rutch!"  (Which means literally, [have a] good slide [into the NeuJahr!] )

 --
 paul@actrix.co.at (Paul Gillingwater)
 Home Office in Vienna, Austria


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Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Holiday Road Period
From: Martin@kcbbs.gen.nz (Martin Kealey)
Date: 11 Jan 93 18:12:32 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

<Various complaints about bad NZ driving deleted>

Related to the problem with those who switch lanes unannounced is the
turn-right-into-far-left-lane manoeuver just when I'm on the point of
making a left turn.  And if you ever try to force the issue - this is
safe because they do have their own lane to use, right? - a horn blast
or two-finger salute is the likely result. :-) :-(

Whenever I'm tempted to force the issue, I try to think of things like
"Excess" and "Lost no-claims bonus", and "severe bodily injury".

Also there are things like "Correlation between (lack of) knowledge of
safe driving practices and of the road code in general" to consider... 
ie if they're stupid enough not to know that they're supposed to turn
into the mid-most lane, then they mightn't know how not to hit me when
I'm in the outer-most lane.

Hoping to stay alive for another year on NZ roads...
	Martin.
Newsgroups: nz.general
From: cctr132@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Nick FitzGerald, PC Software Consultant, CSC, UoC, NZ)
Subject: Re: YES there are NeXT computers in New Zealand!!!
Reply-To: Nick FitzGerald <n.fitzgerald>
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 03:50:00 GMT

In article <1993Jan13.134917.512@otago.ac.nz>, athomson@otago.ac.nz
(Alastair Thomson) writes:

> I have one. (I'm using it now, we have two more coming next week, Wellington
> Polytech has one, Waikato has three or four, more going into use every week!!!
> 
> If you want one, talk to Data General in Wellington, they will give you one in
> exchange for a largish chunk of money 8-)

In case anyone is interested, urban legend has it that Peter
Macauley/No. 1 Software owned the first two NeXTs in NZ and that Lotus
(Aus) got their first one off him!

Others interested in NeXT may also want to talk to DG about NeXT Step
486 -- the NeXT OS for 486 machines -- due out sometime (supposedly
early, but I'll bet "later") this year.  (-Don't- ask me, I haven't
asked them, I'm just passing on the info.)

+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
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 n.fitzgerald@csc.canterbury.ac.nz  TEL:+64(3)364 2337, FAX:+64(3)364 2332
Newsgroups: nz.general
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Subject: Re: Announcing the 1993 NeXTWORLD EXPO and First Call For Exhibitors
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 20:42:38 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Reply-To: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)

user_groups@next.com writes:

> Announcing the 1993 NeXTWORLD EXPO
>
> [...more blather...]


I mean, it's not as if there's an nz.comp group that would be more appropriate
for this or anything.

						- k
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Newsgroups: nz.general
From: maven@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Jim Baltaxe)
Subject: Re: TV Cricket
Organization: Victoria University of Wellington
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:17:49 GMT

In article <C0pFH8.8Lw@comp.vuw.ac.nz> andy@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Andy Bond) writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.213249.1908@gaya.gp.co.nz> mdh@gaya.gp.co.nz (Martin D. Hunt) writes:
>>In article <1059008@zl2tnm.gen.nz>, don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes) writes:
>>> 
>>> "Stump vision" gives the bowlers something to aim at.  8-)
>>> 
>>Well said. A damn stupid place to put a piece of expensive and sensitive 
>>electronic equipment, really.
>
>I understand that the "expensive and sensitive electronic equipment"
>is in a box underground and that the stump just has a mirror device in
>it.
>
>andy

Its actually a Lexan prism.

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From: sbiddle@aviate.welly.gen.nz (Steve Biddle)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Distribution: world
Subject: Re:People that don't indicate (was Re: Holiday Road Peri)
	<H.ea.0DosRCVYt5w@yonder.equinox.gen.nz>
X-Newsreader: Ann 0.9
Date: 11 Jan 93 12:07:15 +1300
Organization: Steves Amiga - Wellington, New Zealand.

In article <H.ea.0DosRCVYt5w@yonder.equinox.gen.nz>,
	craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz (Craig Shore) writes:
>In <1993Jan8.130612.13060@waikato.ac.nz>, dwong@waikato.ac.nz writes:
>
>>1)	Not using indicators to err, umm indicate the intended direction of
>>travel...  This one always gets me swearing to myself and occasionally the
>>offending driver(s).
>
>I find it's usually senior citizens doing this, especially when they're
> stopping. The seem to think they rule the road, and just slow down in
> the middle until they find the house they want, and pull over.
>It really pisses me off too, you don't know if they really are going
> to pull over, so it's too risky to overtake.

Even though some the old folks may be the worst, it's a wide range of drivers
in general that seem to thnik because they know where they're going,
everybody else does too. The number of times I've personally seen accidents
nearly occuring because of this is amazing, especially at roundabouts, even
when big 'indicate' signs are blatently obvious..



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Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Holiday Road Period
From: mdh@gaya.gp.co.nz (Martin D. Hunt)
Date: 9 Jan 93 22:07:14 +1300
 <1993Jan7.221101.1905@gaya.gp.co.nz> <1993Jan8.130612.13060@waikato.ac.nz>
Distribution: world
Organization: Wellington, New Zealand

In article <1993Jan8.130612.13060@waikato.ac.nz>, dwong@waikato.ac.nz writes:
>
> 1)	Not using indicators to err, umm indicate the intended direction of
> travel...  

What about those who ignore your indications when you attempt to make your 
intentions clear? I have often indicated a lane change only to find the gap 
rapidly closing. Expressing displeasure to the offending driver by use of 
the horn often results in the two-fingered salute.

I think the worst offenders at not indicating a lane change are taxi 
drivers, who pay little regard to the lane markings.

> Hey, but I don't claim to be a perfect driver either, I make mistakes but
> always try to be considerate on the road 8^)

Same here. Road courtesy can't do any harm, and it is refreshing when some
is seen. I do use my horn sometimes, but only when I feel it is necessary
in the hope that it might cause the driver think and to be a more
considerate and safe driver in future - after all it was fitted to the car
for a purpose.

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Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: RE: CLEAR VS. TELECOM
From: jonathan.mosen@oosight.status.gen.nz (Jonathan Mosen) 
Date: 10 Jan 93 01:40:00 GMT
Reply-To: jonathan.mosen@oosight.status.gen.nz (Jonathan Mosen) 
Distribution: world
Organization: OUT OF SIGHT BBS, Auckland, New Zealand, 64-9-298-3805

don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes) writes
 DS> I was talking to them a couple of days ago.  At the mo you do 
 DS> talk to one of those old fashioned water-cooled telephone 
 DS> answering machines, but a new system is intended to be added 
 DS> soon that will require using a touch tone phone to talk to it.  
 DS> The new system will apparently allow you to pay bills "on line".

I'm vpleased to hear this.  The ASB could do with some competition in 
this area.  I'm totally blind, and the ability to pay bills over the 
phone is a welcome feature for me.

Jonathan

... A feature is a bug with seniority.
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From: craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz (Craig Shore)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Distribution: world
Organization: Equinox Networks (Public access), Node: Yonder
Subject: Re: Holiday Road Period
	<1ifgf9INN1eo@terra.cs.waikato.ac.nz>
	<1993Jan7.221101.1905@gaya.gp.co.nz>
Reply-To: craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 10:44:16 +1200

In <1993Jan7.221101.1905@gaya.gp.co.nz>, Martin D. Hunt writes:

>1. Why do people have to come over the centre line when the road curves to 
>the right? Drivers seem to particularly like to do this on blind corners. 

I do this, but only if there is no other traffic in either direction,
 and only if I have a clear view for miles. I know it's illegal,
 but if there's no other cars around at all, it smooves out all those
 curves and makes the curve safer.

>2. When two lanes in the same direction turn into one lane, you are 
>supposed to merge down to one lane, using some coutesy if necessary. You 
>are not supposed to a) see how much further you can travel in two lanes 
>before you force the other car off the road, or b) see how many cars you 
>can overtake in the last 5 metres of the extra lane. I had an incident of 
>a) in Christchurch over Christmas when my brother tried merging and a woman 
>in an Audi appeared on his right. No matter what speed he went, the Audi 
>was there, until the Audi driver thought better of forcing my brother into 
>a parked car and overtook him - this was quite some distance after the 
>double lane finished.

Well it sounds like she was slowing to cut him off as well, not nice, 
 but apart from that, yes coutesy does come into it, I, and most other
 drivers sort it out so that every second car from each cue goes in,
 but as for the law on it, isn't it like every other situation and
 the cars in the left lane have to give way to their right????

Only 1 bad incident I saw when I was travelling beck from Hanmer on Monday,
 and when I started overtaking a car, another followed me through the
 overtaking, traffic coming the other way didn't really leave enough room
 for 2 cars to overtake.... I kept my foot to the floor to make room for
 him to get in behind. (couldn't have him hit some innocent person coming
 the other way).

Apart from that, most drivers were very good, it's always the bad
 ones that stand out.

 Craig.
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Newsgroups: nz.general
From: rhys@unisys.co.nz (Rhys Hermansson)
Subject: Re: Holiday Road Period
Organization: Unisys New Zealand
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 04:37:35 GMT

Martin D. Hunt (mdh@gaya.gp.co.nz) wrote:
: 
: What pet hates have other people got about the driving of others?
: > 
: -- 
Probably the worst is ignoring the obvious "Use Left Lane Unless Passing" or 
the even more obvious, bright orange "KEEP LEFT UNLESS OVERTAKING" often seen
on the Wellington Motorways.

Rhys C Hermansson
Wellington 
New Zealand
rhys@goliath.unisys.co.nz

All disclaimers recognised
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Pet driving hates (was Re: Holiday Road Period)
From: Bruce@hoult.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 12:31:21 +1300 (NZDT)

Martin Hunt writes:
> What pet hates have other people got about the driving of others?


Hooboy!  This will attract a few replies, i bet!


Ok, my pet hates are people who don't use a) their indicators, and b) their
mirrors.

On a trip from Wellington to Whangarei I lose count of the number of times
I'll be overtaking some slower traffic when someone I'm just about to go
past will decide to pull out.  The usual sequence is:

1) car moves half way across the centerline
2) indicator goes on
3) driver looks in the mirror
4) car suddenly and violently moves back into the left lane
5) I go past as the car wobbles from side to side in the left hand lane.


As another example of people not looking in the mirror, on Saturday I was
travelling to Paraparaumu, when just north of Plimmerton I spotted a set
of flashing lights about 100m behind me.  I pulled over onto the sealed
area to the left of the road to let the ambulance past.  The car behind
me took that as an invitation to overtake, not having spotted the flashing
lights themselves yet.  Once that was sorted out I watched the ambulance
make its way through the queue of cars in front of me.  Many times it
would sit behind someone for ten seconds, lights flashing, siren going,
before they would pull over.
Newsgroups: nz.general
From: andy@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Andy Bond)
Subject: Re: TV Cricket
Organization: Distributed Systems Group, Comp Sci, Victoria University of Wellington
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:29:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.213249.1908@gaya.gp.co.nz> mdh@gaya.gp.co.nz (Martin D. Hunt) writes:
>In article <1059008@zl2tnm.gen.nz>, don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes) writes:
>> 
>> "Stump vision" gives the bowlers something to aim at.  8-)
>> 
>Well said. A damn stupid place to put a piece of expensive and sensitive 
>electronic equipment, really.

I understand that the "expensive and sensitive electronic equipment"
is in a box underground and that the stump just has a mirror device in
it.

andy
Newsgroups: nz.general
From: clear@cavebbs.welly.gen.nz (Charlie Lear)
Subject: Re: Announcing the 1993 NeXTWORLD EXPO and First Call For Exhibitors
Organization: The Cave MegaBBS, Public Access Usenet, Wellington, NZ
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 11:35:36 GMT

In article <6223@rosie.NeXT.COM> user_groups@next.com writes:
>Announcing the 1993 NeXTWORLD EXPO
>The 2nd annual gathering of the world-wide NeXT community!
>	An international Developers Conference!
>		An educational Users Conference!
>			A NeXTSTEP product exposition!
>				A global User Group Meeting!

I'm sure its wonderful, but does anyone in NZ actually *own* a NeXT?

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Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: RE: CLEAR VS. TELECOM
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 08:37:30 GMT
Organization: The Z*NET Global News Gateway in Parnell New Zealand.

jonathan.mosen@oosight.status.gen.nz (Jonathan Mosen)  writes:

> don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes) writes
>  DS> I was talking to them a couple of days ago.  At the mo you do 
>  DS> talk to one of those old fashioned water-cooled telephone 
>  DS> answering machines, but a new system is intended to be added 
>  DS> soon that will require using a touch tone phone to talk to it.  
>  DS> The new system will apparently allow you to pay bills "on line".
> 
> I'm vpleased to hear this.  The ASB could do with some competition in 
> this area.  I'm totally blind, and the ability to pay bills over the 
> phone is a welcome feature for me.
 
 Well chaps you can add another two banks to your lists as well.
 
 - National Bank
 - Westpac
 
 If the people at National (wholesale) they might like to comment on 
their system, they started to run back in 1987 on trail in Palmerston
North.


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Newsgroups: nz.general
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Subject: Looking for recent TV programmes
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 10:05:32 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand

I'd like to get in touch with anyone who has a copy of a couple of recent
TV programmes that I need to see. I'm looking for "Pole to Pole" from
Saturday Dec 26 (TV1 7:40pm approx) and the last 2 parts of the documentary
series "More Than a Game" that was screening on Monday nights, TV1, at
7:30pm. If you've got these on videotape and it would be possible for me to
borrow them please let me know by email and we can arrange things further.
Your help is much appreciated.

						- k
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Newsgroups: nz.general
From: harper@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (John Harper)
Subject: Re: Pet driving hates (was Re: Holiday Road Period)
Organization: Victoria University of Wellington
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:57:50 GMT

I have a pet Road Code hate which may fit in this discussion. We are told 
the meaning and purpose of an area of road with white diagonal stripes
painted on it but not the difference (if any) when the stripes are yellow.
Consider for example Kelburn Parade in the middle of this university.

John Harper Mathematics Dept. Victoria University Wellington New Zealand
Newsgroups: nz.general
From: engf002@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: TV Cricket
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:23:56 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.221439.1907@gaya.gp.co.nz>, mdh@gaya.gp.co.nz (Martin D. Hunt) writes:
> Has anyone else noticed how much more pleasant the tv cricket coverage is 
> this season without Henry Blofield commenting on "how marvellous this stump 
> vision is" (sorry, can't get the Pommie accent into my posting) every time 
> stump vision is used? In particular, last season I thought the stump vision 
> was an absolute waste of time, this season I don't think it's so bad.

Coming soon for cricket watchers every where is Batcam and Ball-vision.

To quote Dr J.P.Sopwith, Camsun laboratories:
"Batcam : ...with the recent technological advances in CCD array and minature 
optics we will be able to place self-powered remote transmitting minature 
cameras in the cricket bat itself...the audience can then get a "bat's-eye" 
view of the ball, and the impact thereon."

Ball-vision is achieved by mounting 18 heavily shock resistant, self-powered 
wide-angle, subminature CCDs into the ball itself. By cleverly switching 
between relevant cameras, any spin of the ball can be "removed"
from the view giving the television audience a smooth "balls-eye" perspective. 
Although current image processing computers are only fast enough to handle 
pace bowlers at the moment - the spin imparted by good spin bowlers is too 
much. 
    "We are having a lot of trouble with leg-spinners and googlies," says
Dr Sopwith. 
    However, as technology and processing power keeps increasing, this problem
should be overcome.
    Rule pedants can be assured that aerodynamics or the weight of the ball 
will not be affected.

An interesting side-effect of Ball-vision is that by placing receivers in
relevant places on the pitch, the exact flight path of the ball can be
calculated "trivially". This flight path can be extrapolated and 
therefore in almost all LBW situations it can be established whether or
not the ball would have hit the wickets.
    "At the moment the umpire can ask the third referee for rulings on close
run-outs. Soon we will be seeing "replay LBWs"."

Andrew Earl
Newsgroups: nz.general
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Subject: Re: Holiday Road Period
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 20:52:18 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Reply-To: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)

gardner_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:

> In front of me was car large car with a number of ethnic people from
> a Pacific Island nation in it.  The car wandered 1/2 way over the 
> double yellow line during each cornering manouvre, the kids in the
> back were standing on the seats unrestrained, and the was a large
> sticker on the back window saying DRIVE TO SURVIVE...  what a joke!

I always thought the Drive To Survive sticker on my Torana (placed there by
a previous owner) was somewhat ironic.

						- k
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