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From: msmiller@Rational.COM (Mark Miller)
Subject: Re: meeting women
Organization: Rational
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:50:33 GMT

In article <26436@megatest.UUCP>, jlacki@megatest.UUCP (Jeff Lacki) writes:
|> 
|> I think that meeting women is much harder now after college than it
|> was when I was IN college for obvious reasons.  The one thing that
|> I wish there were more of would be women in the computer/engineering
|> field. The only drawback to this is that seeing a co-worker of the
|> opposite sex might not work out too well in the long run if things dont
|> work out.

It can be a right proper disaster, in fact. Especially if there
were any video tapes or pictures taken.

|> Ive been here for two years after moving from Chicago.  I love it here,
|> however I do find it extremely difficult to meet women.  Most of the
|> women that I have met are either married, engaged to be married, or
|> have a SO already.  

Or their psychic/palmist/etc. told them not to get involved now.

|> Just where ARE the good women these days!?

Brazil, Thailand, and Cleveland ... depending on how you define
"good", of course.

	-MSM

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________________________________________________________________________
Mark S. Miller                                     msmiller@Rational.COM
"Life is a 4-letter word."                        msmiller@world.std.com
[ insert tedious disclaimer drivel here ]                           IV-Q
From: crs@sybase.com (Craig Saunders)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Filk Reminder
Date: 15 Nov 92 06:59:52 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <lg1g29INN3aa@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> carole@rembrandt.Eng.Sun.COM (Carole Parker) writes:

>
>What: A Filk
>

What's a "Filk"?

Craig R. Saunders, crs@sybase.com
--
Craig R. Saunders, gaia!crs, x8521
From: c60b-2hz@e260-2g.berkeley.edu (Nathaniel Meyers)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Where to meet women?
Date: 19 Nov 92 01:20:38 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: e260-2g.berkeley.edu

In article <69333@cup.portal.com> DeadHead@cup.portal.com (Bruce M Ong) writes:
>There are reading seminars and poetry 
>readings etc that one can go. Too bad these events carry the same stigma as 
>"hanging out at computer literacy." 

They DO?!!!!! Cripes, You learn something new about the inane dictates
of a tasteless, valueless, and capricious society each day.  First I learn
nameing stars is considered unromantic and now this.  Well, if women truly
believed this then I think one should willingly choose to be abstinant.
Fortunately, I KNOW this can't be true, but finding a good relationship
may require patience (but it's worth waiting for if you are.)
-Nathaniel
some
From: DeadHead@cup.portal.com (Bruce M Ong)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Does your cup runneth over
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 15:39:44 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ba
  <keithley-171192191830@kip2-34.apple.com>

>
>In article <1du6dtINN664@morrow.stanford.edu>, HF.HLA@forsythe.stanford.edu
>(Lisa A. Haupt) wrote:
>> 
>>>In article <1992Nov9.204237.28221@netcom.com> bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) wr
i
>tes:
>> 
>>>The main point, though, is to get out and do "things".  Lots and
>>>lots of "things".  Smile, be friendly, and TL&EH shall be yours.
>> 
>> Yeh Bob, what was the last thing you went out and did?
>> 
>
>I've noticed a trend here...  In this and a one or two other postings Bob
>waxes poetic (just how large is a 'poetic', and how much wax does it
>need?), and Lisa flames him.
>
>Hmmm.  What's the reason for this?...
>
	She *likes* him. I mean, it's obvious. :-) Anytime you have a message
which generates followups, it means you are saying something worthwhile for
others to comment on. So they either like you, or feel compelled enough to
write a follow up. 

	My messages have never gotten any followups. I dont know why. I mean, 
i shower and everything, and only take garlic in pill form... I guess I post
with an accent and nobody could understand...:-) but, i perservere.

>Craig Keithley
>Apple Computer, Inc.
>keithley@apple.com
>"I've got a bad feeling about this..." 
-------
/bruce-who-can-do-a-cool-elmer-fudd-imitation
"If Winter comes, can Spring be far behind?" - Shelley
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Where to meet women?
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:47:41 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Nov16.014137.24466@netcom.com> gerg@netcom.com (Greg Andrews) writes:
|smith@wesson.Eng.Sun.COM writes:
|>bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:
|>>smith@wesson.Eng.Sun.COM writes:
|>>>[someone since lost in the shuffle said:]
|>>>>What is TL&EH, please ?
|>>>>
|>>>True Love and Eternal Happiness (Is there such an animal?) . . . 
|>>>
|>>Of course there is, Nina.
|>>I found it just the other night with the Ferguson Twins, Bambi and Bunni.
|>>
|>Hmmmm . . . you and John Fereira appear to have a fair bit in common
|>with the choice of women -- Swedish Bikini Team and Playboy Playmates
|>- perhaps you could teach the net.SO-less guys a thing or too :)
|>
|
|What, drooling over beer commercials and Playboy magazines?  I think
|I've got that covered already...
 
Who said anything about commercials and magazines.   The Swedish bikini
team comes over and cleans my house every other weekend.

-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
+==========================================================================+
From: merblich@imola.EBay.Sun.COM (Mitchell Erblich user)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: meeting women
Date: 21 Nov 92 00:58:40 GMT
Reply-To: merblich@imola.EBay.Sun.COM
Distribution: ba
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: imola.ebay.sun.com


	The "pan pizza" is very good in Chicago, but the best type of food  I found in
Chicago is there pan Apple pancakes.

Mitch
From: veklerov@spindle.ee.lbl.gov (eugene veklerov)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: looking for women, looking for men...
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:41:46 GMT
Reply-To: veklerov@spindle.ee.lbl.gov (eugene veklerov)
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.112.82

In article <1ecfirINNrgk@overload.lbl.gov> asya@ux5.lbl.gov (Asya Kamsky) writes:

> This discussion about babies and puppies to attract women or books or
> whatever to attract men, seems pretty ridiculous to me.  If some guy
> has a puppy and he seems attractive and interesting to me, I might
> use the puppy as an excuse to talk to him, but then without the puppy
> I might find an excuse to talk to him anyway.  If he looks like a
> loser, then I won't talk to him no matter how cute the puppy is.

That sounds almost like the following statement.  If a product is good,
people will buy it anyway.  If it is not, nobody will buy it and
no amount of advertisement will change that.

A simple fact of life is that, as far as new products are concerned,
the marketing strategy is 80% of their success.

Eugene Veklerov
From: HF.HLA@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lisa A. Haupt)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Someone who cares
Date: 20 Nov 1992 11:05:57 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <1992Nov20.164721.14303@netcom.com>,
bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:


>To explain a bit further.....
>        Lisa has this large net that hangs next to her shackle
>and whip collection.  It's just to the right of the trapeze as you
>walk into the chamber.  We use it for group sex because so many
>people can pile into it.  It's kind of handy because the Mazola
>drips right through so you don't have to slosh around in it all
>night.

Yes, I remember the net, the one you bought me last Xmas.  But it's not to the
right of the trapeze dear, it's in front of your blow up doll, the one with all
the patches.  I had the chamber remodeled while you were gone, I have the mazola
piped in through the sprinkler system now, it's so much more convenient....just
a flip of the switch.
From: Michael.Gleim@f201.n914.z8.rbbs-net.ORG (Michael Gleim)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: How to meet women!
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:52:18 GMT


 CS> From: crs@sybase.com (Craig Saunders)
 CS> Subject: Re: How to meet women!

 CS>   I'm not even old enough to be a "dirty old man".)

Craig,

You are obviously under the delusion that Dirty Old Manhood requires the
attainment of some mystical age. However, this turns out not to be the
case.

Dr. 'A' in his seminal work (The Sensuous Dirty Old Man) presents clear
and convincing evidence, both historical and anecdotal, that attitude
rather than age is the requisite criterion. A rather piquant verse from
the ancients (English Romanticists?) should help you to remember this:

In Spring a young man's fancy,
Lightly turns to thoughts of what,
Throughout the year,
The Dirty Old Man,
Has never even once forgot.

Therefore, go forth boldly and unabashedly in seeking to become a
sensuous Dirty Old Man (not to be confused with a dirty, i.e., grimy,
old man). The next time you're staring women's legs, try it on for
thighs. <don't blame me, I stole it from the author>

MICHAEL GLEIM


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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Do you know the way to San Jose?
Date: 21 Nov 92 01:37:23 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1ejci6INNqri@morrow.stanford.edu> HF.HLA@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lisa A. Haupt) writes:
 
|You have found me out.  I cannot tell a lie.  I live for your heaving breathing
|across the network lines, the feel of your fingers touching the keys, my heart
|pounds, like a 10lb cat falling off a 32 story building.  Alas, what shall I
|ever do.  I know he will never be mine.  Any suggestions out there?

Yea, poke a hole in his blowup doll.

I've got some more suggestions.  Just give me you're phone number and I'll
explain them all to you.


-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
+==========================================================================+
From: DeadHead@cup.portal.com (Bruce M Ong)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Do you know the way to San Jose?
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 13:35:11 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ba

>Item: ba.singles 7952,  20 Nov 92,  19 lines.    (4 items left)
>From: bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker)
>Subject: Re: Does your cup runneth over
>
>>It's obvious that Lisa is absolutely nuts about me and uses verbal
>>abuse to get my attention.
>
>pounds, like a 10lb cat falling off a 32 story building.  Alas, what shall I
>ever do.  I know he will never be mine.  Any suggestions out there?

	At the "IMPORTANT JUNCTURE" (which is how i label a certain point
in a relationship) you have 3 options:

	1) Kill him
	2) Leave him and get out of town, never to return.
	3) Close your eyes, hold your nose....and JUMP!

	Personally, I would take what's behind curtain #3.
---
/bruce 
"I did not know whether I would ever speak to her or not or, if I spoke to her,
how I could tell her of my confused adoration. But my body was like a harp and
her words and gestures were like fingers running upon the wires."
			- James Joyce, "Araby" from <<The Dubliners>>
From: bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Someone who cares
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:47:21 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1ej1ehINN5qh@morrow.stanford.edu> HF.HLA@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lisa A. Haupt) writes:
>In article <1992Nov20.130754.21696@netcom.com>,
>aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
>>>Wrong again.  Bob and I are good friends for anyone who really cares.
>>"....we're friends.  Good friends.  Very, very *good* friends.  But Just
>>Friends."
>>
>>I ran into Bob accidentally on the net by sending a message to him instead of
>someone else.  So we have been writing for about four months.  I wake him up on
>the net in the morning and make him get out of bed.  So, I guess you were

To explain a bit further.....
	Lisa has this large net that hangs next to her shackle
and whip collection.  It's just to the right of the trapeze as you
walk into the chamber.  We use it for group sex because so many
people can pile into it.  It's kind of handy because the Mazola
drips right through so you don't have to slosh around in it all
night.
Xref: sparky ba.singles:2182 ba.general:5007
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Newsgroups: ba.singles,ba.general
Subject: Stupid flamewar about nothing in particular
Date: 15 Nov 92 16:08:40 GMT
Organization: Don't blame me, I voted for Bill 'n' Opus

In article <1992Nov15.083341.27300@netcom.com> rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer) writes:
>In article <1992Nov14.172832.28866@eagercon.com> eager@eagercon.com writes:
>>In article lg8j79INNbhb@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM, smith@wesson.Eng.Sun.COM (Nina S. Smith - SunSoft Product Marketing) writes:
>>>
>     [14 lines deleted]
>>>
>>
>>Now, being a city dweller and all, I keep trying to figure how I could
>>do this.  I imagine walking down Univ. Ave. in Palo Alto with a bone
>>in my shorts.  You think this has a chance of getting me noticed?
>>
>>---
>>Michael J. Eager		Michael.Eager@eagercon.com
>>
>
>     How about taking your own advice about net.etiquette?
>
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There's a big difference between quoting worthless material, as I'm
doing here, and providing context for the deprived people using antique
newsreaders.

{Here, Eugene, a chance for you to post your lovely FAWQ.}
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Trying to be happy is like trying to build a machine for which the only
specification is that it should run noiselessly.
From: asya@ux5.lbl.gov (Asya Kamsky)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: How to meet women! NOT!
Date: 18 Nov 1992 06:56:08 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Reply-To: asya@ux5.lbl.gov (Asya Kamsky)
NNTP-Posting-Host: ux5.lbl.gov

In article <25800@sybase.sybase.com> crs@sybase.com (Craig Saunders) writes:
>I'm also not worried because the last time that I was concerned about my
>social opportunities, I took a bridge class.  The result was that I learned
>how to play bridge (which I wanted to since school) and met someone who I
>dated for over 18 months.  In addition, she got me to start learning
>ballroom dance, something else that I've wanted to learn for a long time...

Whatever you do, don't to *THAT*.  Not a _bridge class_!!!  No, you might
meet someone like me, and that wouldn't get you any further than being
ragged on here, so just stay here, since there aren't any good bridge
classes being offered in the Bay Area except at Stanford.  And the teacher
there is taken.

>So, take some of the previous advice and get out and do stuff!  You'll become
>a better person while you meet new people!

You won't become a better person if you learn how to play bridge that's
for sure. 


Oh. ":-)" for the impaired.
-- 
"In nature there are no rewards or punishments, only consequences"

Asya Kamsky	      e-mail: asya@ux5.lbl.gov                   Go Red Sox
"In order to command you must first learn to submit" - chinese fortune cookie
From: jdsiegel@ocf.berkeley.edu (Joel Siegel)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Filk Reminder
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:18:46 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

So, when's it gonna be answered: 
What's a FILK???


-- 
"Politics is the art of preventing people from taking part in
affairs which properly concern them."   - Paul Valery
From: c60b-2hz@e260-2e.berkeley.edu (Nathaniel Meyers)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: meeting women
Date: 21 Nov 1992 00:16:02 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: e260-2e.berkeley.edu

In article <15584@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:

>The final test is if you can eat a pizza with pineapple and ham  
>on it and avoid saying "In Chicago we had real pizza".
>

I've lived in California my entire life and my mother's and grandmother's
lives before that and even I can't do that. (Of course, I don't mention
Chicago [I'll never forgive Illinois for not ratifying the ERA]; I just
say "Real pizza has olives", although lately I've taken to saying "Canadian
bacon is yesterday's trend-- let's get pesto instead.")
-Nathaniel
From: hahn@gigantor.nas.nasa.gov (Jonathan Hahn)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Alberto's nightclub (was: meeting women)
Date: 24 Nov 92 03:01:15 GMT
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, California

In article <26436@megatest.UUCP> jlacki@megatest.UUCP (Jeff Lacki) writes:
>Just where ARE the good women these days!?

Alberto's nightclub in Mountain View has salsa classes and bands on
Thursdays and Saturdays.  The classes are easy, fun, and a good way to
meet people (including women).  Last Thursday and Saturday there were
more women than men.  That doesn't mean it's always that way, but it's
not unusual.

The way the classes work, people change partners often so you get a
chance to dance with many different people.  If there the sexes aren't
balanced, then extra people rotate in (like in volleyball) so no one
gets left out.  The classes are beginning to intermediate; many people
there have never taken the class before and many people come by
themselves.  The classes vary in size from around 20 to 100 people.

In the course of the evening, you learn dance steps while dancing with
other people in the class.  The band usually begins playing at 9-9:30,
and then you can practice the steps you learned with the people you met
in class.  It's a pretty painless and fun way to meet people.

On Thursday, there is a beginning lesson at 7PM and an intermediate one
at 8PM; admission and one lesson is $6, admission and both lessons is
$10.  On Friday, there is a beginning lesson at 8PM; admission & the
lesson is $7.  Albertos is located at 736 W. Dana in downtown Mountain
View, (415) 736-3007.  I publish the club's calendar once a month on an
e-mail list.  If you'd like to be added to the list, mail your request
to albertos-request@gigantor.nas.nasa.gov.

Disclaimer: I'm involved with the club, but don't let that stop you
from checking it out.

-jonathan hahn
-- 
hahn@nas.nasa.gov					wk: (415) 604-4360
..!ames!amelia!hahn					hm: (408) 736-7014
From: kuritzky@purina.berkeley.edu (Eric Kuritzky)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Filk Reminder
Date: 19 Nov 1992 03:05:10 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: purina.berkeley.edu

In article <69778@cup.portal.com> DeadHead@cup.portal.com (Bruce M Ong) writes:
>>(stuff deleted)
>>What's a "Filk"?
>>
>(more stuff deleted)
>	I asked the same question in this group and got no answer. But I did
>get a plausible explanation last friday at a party: Apparently Filk is
>same as "folk" but it was somehow misspelled "filk" in a sci-fi novel
>in the 50's or 60's, and the spelling got stuck, and people started to use it
>as such. So a 'filk' is probably a folk music get together or something.
>(even more stuff deleted)

   It wasn't in a novel, it was in the program book at a PhilCon 
(Philadelphia science fiction convention).




                              kuritzky@math.berkeley.edu
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                              kuritzky@math.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: davidj@wrs.com (David Jones)
Subject: Filkdom
Summary: singing filk
Keywords: filk and more filk
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:24:10 GMT

W. David Rohwer writes:

"If you want an answer, then you may want to browse the filk newsgroup(s)."

A brief browse of news/alt/music/filk discusses such exciting things as:

    American filkers
    New Filk
    long-out-of-print Bayfilk
    a phantom filker who died
    Filksingers
    the Magicon filk
    The first British filkcon
    Filking As A Way Of Life
    Phone Filk
    Classical Phone Filk
    Most filkhogs I've seen
    filk conventions
    professional filkers
    amateur filkers
    Filknet
    Xenofilkia
    filksing
    filkbook
    The fifth British Filk Convention
    filk dealers
    the filk mailing list
    the 8 years I've been in filking
    filkdom
    writing filk lyrics
    All filked up and no place to sing!
    New Dimensions In Filk!
    Have any other filkers experienced a serious decline in mathematical abilities
    a collection of  Swedish  filksinging from its golden age
    THE FILKSONGS:  a  non-profit,  amateur production.
    Filk Elitists
    the "official" filks
    Real filkers don't document
    manners at a filksing
    house-filk
    the tradition of filking
    How many people have filk on their answering machines?
    I'm a poet, not a filkster!

The FILK echo is available in Fido through Va Data Exchange (???) 877-3539.

Or, you could try filk@ofa123.fidonet.org for more info.

What a revelation!  Now all I need to know is how "boink" got started.

-------------------
  David W. Jones
  davidj@wrs.com
-------------------
From: jlacki@megatest.UUCP (Jeff Lacki)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: meeting women
Date: 20 Nov 92 06:43:39 GMT
Organization: Megatest Corporation, San Jose, Ca


I think that meeting women is much harder now after college than it
was when I was IN college for obvious reasons.  The one thing that
I wish there were more of would be women in the computer/engineering
field.  The only drawback to this is that seeing a co-worker of the
opposite sex might not work out too well in the long run if things dont
work out.

Ive been here for two years after moving from Chicago.  I love it here,
however I do find it extremely difficult to meet women.  Most of the
women that I have met are either married, engaged to be married, or
have a SO already.  

Just where ARE the good women these days!?