HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: glambert@pyramid.com (George Lambert)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Net worth
Date: 9 Jan 93 00:39:17 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology

In article <184864@pyramid.pyramid.com> glambert@pyramid.com (George Lambert) writes:
>
>"Almost ablaze but you can't feel the heat"
		^^^ 	^^^^^I know, it should've been "still" and "don't" :-)

I'll get these right someday.

Geo
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From: oestline@maui.qualcomm.com (Ofer Estline)
Subject: Re: A Better Idea
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:49:19 GMT


	Please folks - keep private wars off the airwaves.  It's SO simple
	to keep them private.
	Talk amongst yerselves!!!  Public confrontations bring much more 
	wrong than right to the net.
	This, of course, is MHO. 
	--Ofer
	!(Fade Away)
From: Mike.Swartzbeck@p816.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Swartzbeck)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: I'll miss Dizz
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1993 00:13:39 -0500

In a SubSpace transmission on stardate 1/8/93, Paul Kemp stated: 

  PK> Dexter Gordan Stan Getz Miles Davis Dizzy Gillespie

My wife came clear out of nowhere and chewed my ass off because I admire -- oh,
alright, idolize -- the Grateful Dead.

Why do people idolize Elvis?, I asked her.

Why did people idolize Getz, Miles and Dizzy?

She gave me hell for being into the Dead so much, but it's only for the same
reasons you're probably a hog for Stan Getz and Miles Davis. They created
something incredible, an undying monster. I heard an interview with someone
who'd played with Gillespie describing the reactions of recently-returned WWII
veterans to the sound of BeBop after all those years of big-band swing.
According to this fellow, the reactions ranged from astonishment to outrage.
Dizzy's creation required a major perceptual shift by the listener, and the
returned vets just couldn't grok it, it was that big a leap. Stands to reason
that artists that can pull off stuff like that, invent something new and
hellacious, would be made big heroes.

Same with Elvis, and the Beatles.

*********************************************************************************
"What a waste it is to lose one's mind, or not to have a mind as
being very wasteful. How true that is."            -- Dan Quayle.

mike.swartzbeck@p816.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org
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From: lb04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Laura Bassi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: 1992 - The Net.Year in Review
Date: 5 Jan 93 21:03:18 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1993Jan4.212644.15553@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>, ANDREJKOW@tbosch.dnet.g
e.com writes:
>
>       Some net.highlights of 1992
>
lots o' stuff deleted:

 and let's not forget our instatement of the net.goddess
 and our net.get.well.card
 and the pppppppps invasion
 and all that good stuff,
 laura

 
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From: hbh@athena.mit.edu (Heidi Hammel)
Subject: Re: Hot Rumour
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:42:40 GMT

ANDREJKOW@tbosch.dnet.ge.com writes:
>The latest hot rumour has garcia and hunter working on a sequel to
>terrapin station inspired by the "Curious George" books. According to inside
>sources, garcia has finished the basic tracks derived from "lady with a fan"
>using a working title of "The Man with the Yellow Hat".

Wow! Cool.  :-)  Are Max and the Wild Things up next?
P.S. We seem to have sunk to a *really* juvenile level now! ;-)
P.P.S. I thought April Fool's day was 5/1, not 1/11 :-)
--
    Heidi B. Hammel   (hbh@astron.mit.edu)   MIT 54-416   EAPS Dept.
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From: jhb@dale.cts.com (John Bollenbacher)
Subject: Re: (correction) Neil Young unplugged on wed 6-jan-93
Organization: Titan Linkabit Corporation
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:55:53 GMT

fish@daacdev1.stx.com wrote:
: fish@daacdev1.stx.com writes:
: 
: >Neil Young is on DC-101 in washington, dc wed nite
: >i think 10pm but not sure - i think its a simulcast
: >of MTV Unplugged but am again unsure
: 
: thats 6-jan

Does anyone know about whether this will be shown on the west coast?

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From: niranjan@sbstaff2.cs.sunysb.edu (Niranjan)
Subject: Re: Help Request on new lifestyle
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:59:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.170356.877@netcom.com> jsbus@netcom.com (JSB Corp) writes:
>
>I suggest rec.vegetarian to catch up on current thought.

Isn't that rec.food.veg? Post the same request there...

-Niranjan.
From: pstevens@Metaphor.COM (Paul Stevens)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Poor boys
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:50:56 GMT
Reply-To: pstevens@Metaphor.COM (Paul Stevens)
Organization: m4

In article <1993Jan11.182154.4003@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>, lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com (Jeff Lester) writes:
|> Al Hoffman writes:
|> 
|> |Now the questions:
|> |1. Is the song really about carrying, heading for a show, or just wandering?
|> 
|> Well, since Chuck Berry wrote the song, I doubt if it has much to do with 
|> heading for a show or carrying (unless it's about carrying young girls 
|> across state lines :-). I think it's basically just a road-trip song.
|> 
|> |2. If there are seven digits in that Virginia phone number, did anybody get'm?
|> 
|> The line is:
|> 
|> Los Angeles give me Norfolk, Virginia, Tidewater 4-10-0-9
|> 
|> Like in the old days, the number is the "exchange", Tidewater, followed by the
|> 5 numbers. I beleive this would then be the 1st 2 letters TI, followed by the 
|> numbers: TI4-1009. This would then be 844-1009. Just a guess, I'm not sure if
|> the letters in the exchange ever actually meant numbers as well.
|> 
|> -Jeff Lester

Several years back a friend of mine called the number while visiting in the
Norfolk area hoping to reach Mrs Berry, but instead found a Vietnamese owned
Dry Cleaner!

+------------------------------------------------------------------------+

   Paul Stevens                        {apple|decwrl}!metaphor!pstevens
   Metaphor Computer Systems           pstevens@metaphor.com
   Mountain View, CA
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From: clark@dedsho.enet.dec.com (Dave Clark)
Subject: J. Airplane/Starship/SsTNG mailing list?
Organization: Uhlek Brain World
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:27:22 GMT

Howdy folks;

Sorry if this has been answered previously ... anyone know of a Jefferson
Airplane and/or J. Starship and/or J. Starship TNG mailing list?

- thanks in advance!

Dave Clark                                "We're not hitchhiking anymore ...
clark@dedsho.enet.dec.com		   we're RIDING!"
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From: rar6811@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: East Coast Net Gatherings?
Reply-To: rar6811@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:54:54 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.183027.16177@alw.nih.gov>, blewis@helix.nih.gov (barbara lewis) writes:
>In article <3440@bsu-cs.bsu.edu> mjwagner@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Mike Wagner) writes:
>>I read about net gatherings on the west coast and wonder if there has been
>>or is going to be one anytime in the not-so-distant future for us east and
>>kinda-a east coasters??
>>
>>Mike
>
>I'd second this proposal!  Too bad we're not as close to each other as the
>maps may lead us to believe.  Any D.C. net heads want to try this gathering
>concept out?  I'm game if you are!  ;)
>
>Barb(era)
>

I'm game, but can we do it in Rochester?
From: eskridge@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Paul Eskridge)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: sides?
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:12:06 GMT
Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA,  USA


Chris Perkins sez:

>(you know, forty or fifty years from now we're going to have the words philside
>and jerryside incorporated into the American lexicon, and we will also find 
>ourselves saying things like "go about two blocks until you see a bank on the
>philside.  Hang a jerry, and you can't miss it.")   

Which leads me to believe that the band is about to swap stage arrangement again.
Never trust a (gang of) Prankster(s).

Paul
From: billrich@caspian.ext.vt.edu (Bill Richardson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: info on gdead e-mailing lists
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:34:58 GMT


Greetings.  I have a faithful deadhead friend who is stuck on an IBM  
VM/CMS system where she can't get to grateful nuzes like this.  So I am  
wondering if you know of any gd email listservers that she could subscribe  
to.  

THANKS.

Bill Rich in
Blacksburg, Va.

p.s. she would be tickled to hear from fellow travelers on the net.  If  
you want to say hi to her, send it to me, and I will forward to her.
From: jimh@pongo.West.Sun.COM (jim hori)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Poor boys
Date: 11 Jan 1993 19:35:34 GMT
Organization: Sun
Distribution: world, rec, usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: pongo71
Keywords: Promised Land

In article <76410@apple.apple.COM> hoffman@Apple.COM (Al Hoffman) writes:
>Just at the complete apex of this tape when Bob Weir was electrifying my
>near-blown speakers with the line
>  "..Tell the folks back home this is the Promised Land calling and your
>   poor boy's on the line!"
>Now the questions:
>1. Is the song really about carrying, heading for a show, or just wandering?

This Chuck Berry song is basically just about a cat from Norfolk, VA
who wants to get to California. "Carrying" isn't mentioned, and shows
as such didn't exist when the song was written.

>2. If there are seven digits in that Virginia phone number, did anybody get'm?

Tidewater 41009 (in the old days, telephone exchanges used names
for mnemonic purposes and one took the first two letters to make
the number, so TI 41009 comes out to 844 1009), or as Chuck says
"Tidewater four, ten, oh-nine".

....
jimh@west.sun.com

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From: louray@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Panayiotakis)
Subject: Re: East Coast Net Gatherings?
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:36:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.183027.16177@alw.nih.gov> blewis@helix.nih.gov (barbara lewis) writes:
>In article <3440@bsu-cs.bsu.edu> mjwagner@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Mike Wagner) writes:
>>I read about net gatherings on the west coast and wonder if there has been
>>or is going to be one anytime in the not-so-distant future for us east and
>>kinda-a east coasters??
>>
>>Mike
>
>I'd second this proposal!  Too bad we're not as close to each other as the
>maps may lead us to believe.  Any D.C. net heads want to try this gathering
>concept out?  I'm game if you are!  ;)
>
>Barb(era)
>

Sure. 
summer tour sound nice??(will the dead be comming/having a summer tour?)
get to meet gore, too *chuckle*

-- 
pe | ep    "I don't know, but I've been told,      
ac | ca     it's hard to run with the weight of gold
e / \ e     other hand, I've heard it said,
 /   \      it's just as hard with the weight of lead."______________________GD
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From: ADJS000 <ADJS@nmumus.bitnet>
Subject: GRAMMAR RULES FOR MR. MEYER
Reply-To: ADJS@nmumus.bitnet
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:56:23 GMT

Now write, 100 times:
"Never Fuckin' apologize.*It's* a sign of weakness"
and then disappear.
Thanks!
Jim S.
From: MSC118@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Place me on the list please
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:16:58 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Hey  now!

        I would like to be placed on the mailing list.
Thanks in advance.

                 Walk in Peace,
                             Mike
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From: "T. Carl Schwink" <schwink@key.amdahl.com>
Subject: Long Lost Tape Trades
Reply-To: schwink@key.amdahl.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:47:24 GMT

All this talk of long-lost tape trades reminds me...

Some unknown number of trades (maybe a dozen?) got lost when the
company I was working for, Athenix, bit the big one last year.  I owed
several people tapes (some had even sent blanks), and even more owed 
me tapes.

Since I've got net.access again, a few of you have come forward and
we've straightened things out (Hi Mitch!), but I *know* there are still
more of you out there (like the owner of these XLII-s's).

So, if carl@athenix.com owed you tapes, or you owed him tapes, why not
email me and we'll try to clean this up??  I'm especially looking forward
to hearing from anyone who owed me DAT's and who has been losing sleep
over it ;^).

pppppps,
starfish

ODC:  Don't forget to mail order on Monday :-)!
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: m0ali001@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Read those Comix
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 06:36:42 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

I have just purchased another of the Grateful Dead Comix.  I have found that
the artists make a beautiful sight to the words of the Dead songs.  If you
haven't seen these they are exellent.  I may just be throwing out some old news
to all of you fans.  They, however, are new to me and I just wanted to share.

My favorite comic is the one "Why the Dead didn't play Woodstock."  Of course
Dire Wolf, Sugar Magnolia and are all grate too.

free your mind and your ass will follow!!
B. Siefert
From: an3886@anon.penet.fi (Toker)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: International Dead!
Date: 6 Jan 93 05:40:54 GMT
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: rec.music.gdead

Hi, sorry im posting through anon service, but thats the only way i could find
to post since my server dosnt get this group.
Well to make the story a bit shorter...i live in Israel and we dont get much dead
and even less tapes of dead shows.....i was wandering if anyone could mail shows
they collected....and ill pass the magic on...its too bad we have to listen to 
studio performance...
ive seen the dead twice before - once in shoreline and once at stanford...cool stuff..well thanks for your time and effort.
Toker@marv.technion.ac.il

Toke on!

BTW, if anyone know Rachel Kubby who goes to ucsc i think pass her my email and 
make two happy souls happier.

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From: wwilliam@dvorak.amd.com (Wade Williams)
Subject: Dealing with People Hogging Seats at Shows 
Organization: Austin, Texas
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 19:00:16 GMT

In article <C01oxD.7Ix@askinc.ask.COM> robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen) writes:
>
>I was one of the people who started this thread during the recent Oakland 
>shows.  However, some woman flamed us and referred to us as "the whiners".
>(To you, my dear, a heartfelt "Fuck you!"  It's my $50, I can "whine" if I 
>want...)
>
>get irritated.  Go with the flow, man (NOT!).   Go to most any other concert,
>like MetallicA, try to save 20 seats, and get your ass kicked.  
>
>Maybe it's about time people started acting like they were at any other show, 
>and learn to conform to basic rules and coexist without being so damn greedy
>(especially when it's greedy under the guise of hippie "peace and love, man").
>

You are just approaching this all wrong.  You can "go with the flow" and
completely twist their whole approch and attitude to make it collapse on
them.  Be Mobile.  Sit in those empty seats!  Tell them you will relinquish
them when (if) the owner shows up.  If they insist on having them, move
over a seat and sit down again.  Hell you have multiple rows of 20 blank
seats surrounding you.  All those "owners" are not going to show up at 
once.  If they pull that peace and love pitch on you just ask them who
is being hurt by your resting in an *EMPTY* seat?  Can't they share with
a stranger??  And remember, KEEP SMILING ;-)

Wade
From: 6500f10@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Todd)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: last setlists?
Date: 7 Jan 93 19:06:26 GMT
Distribution: rec


I've been away from the net for a while, and would like
someone to post the setlists for the last two Oakland shows.

Thanks,
       Todd
            ...well he comes to your house, and he don't stay
long... Rev. Gary Davis.

 

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From: "RAM Demo 37" <rdemo37@psilink.com>
Subject: Re: I'm a Hog for that seat baby
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 12:18:26 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink-DOS (3.3)

>DATE:   Mon, 04 Jan 1993 21:23:40 GMT
>FROM:   Steve Biederman <sbiederman@slipknot.mentorg.com>

>One thing I've thought might work for New Year's (where the competition for
>seats is absolutely BEYOND BELIEF; I mean, last year I was in line before the 
>gates to the parking lot opened, and we sat WAAAAAAY in the back) is to make 
>the following rule, and send it out with the mail order, and post it in the 
>line area in the parking lot, and announce it from the stage:
>
>    The *ONLY* thing that can save a seat that does not have a human in it
>    is a coat.  Not a sweater.  Not a T-shirt.  Not a backpack.  Not duct 
>    tape. Not "It's taken".  If a seat is not being sat in and does not
>    have a coat in it, it is available to be taken.
>
>steve
>
I don't know that a *coat* is the right item.  After all, how many of us 
bring a coat to summer shows?  I don't want to have to carry a coat with 
me to every show so that I can save my seat while I go to the bathroom 
during the show.  "It's taken" can work for saving a seat or two without 
being offensive.  The problem stems from those who feel that the "don't 
invade my space" attitude gives them the right for all the space they 
want without being considerate of others.

If someone is "reserving" a large block of seats, I don't see why you 
shouldn't be allowed to sit there until their real or imaginary friends 
show up.  I've done this before, and never had a problem.  If your space 
is so precious that someone cannot "borrow" when it's not being used, 
maybe you should examine your priorities.
From: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: A Better Idea
Date: 7 Jan 93 19:43:41 GMT
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <93007.101007MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com> MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com writes:
>You're expressing yourself is making my experience here less desirable,

	But your forbidding me to express myself makes *my* experience
here less desirable.

	It's the same old conflict that's bugged every society that's
ever existed, y'see.  Does my right to scream out my elation supersede 
your right to make perfect tapes?  Does your right to plant a mike stand
_right_ _there_ mean I have to go dance in the hallway?  Does the fact that
I have a shoe on the seat set aside your right to sit there?

	No, I'm afraid that some degree of tolerance for the actions
of others is a necessary condition for any community to exist.  Of course,
this is a two-way street (actually, it runs in bisync: you do something and
then I provide feedback on it...) and the members of said community must 
consider the effect of their own actions on other members and the community
as a whole.  

	So the question becomes one of whether my action of telling some
bogus little needledicked hairball that he should try engaging his brain
before he posts some piece of stupidity whose only purpose is to open old
wounds is harmful or beneficial to the community in general and the little
needledicked hairball in particular.  I maintain that my actions are
beneficial, since if I find his actions despicable and childish there are
certainly others who feel that way and any action that might cause him to
do less of what he's doing is a Good Thing in at least some minds, and
anyway it makes me feel better.  I also maintain that my actions cause no
harm, neither to the hairball (Really, it's not like I snuck into his
house and chopped of his fingers with a Bowie knife.) nor to the few who
object to anything that's not Pure Sweetness and Light (tm) being posted
here since these folks can just go to the bathroom or something until it's
over.  Like they do for Miracle.

>You're expressing yourself is making my experience here less desirable,

	I'm sorry, but given the above, I'm forced to respond thusly:

	"Pffffftttt!!!  So ignore me."

>I have to read your crucifixion of fellow net.heads.

	Well, see, that's just the point.  You DON'T have to read it.
If you don't want to deal with this place and can't ignore me then, uhh,
go join a private mailing list or somethin'...

							W.rat

Ya know, I expected to harvest some
wind, but not all this hot air! :-)
From: booloo@framsparc.ocf.llnl.gov (Mark Boolootian)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Leary's age  (was Re: Acid on TV)
Date: 8 Jan 93 23:51:43 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

>Timothy Leary on the other hand is certainly showing age.

I didn't catch the program in question (although I did video tape it and hope
to eventually watch it), but this comment caught my eye.  I don't know how
Leary appeared, but in case you didn't know it, Leary turns 73 this year.

Consider the fact that Tim Leary didn't really get involved in psychedelics
until he was 40 years old!  Considering most people have mellowed out and
settled into a life-routine by this age, I think Leary a most remarkable
individual.

mb
-- 
Mark Boolootian		booloo@llnl.gov		+1 510 423 1948
Disclaimer:  booloo speaks for booloo and no other.
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From: meyer@netcom.com (Peter Meyer)
Subject: Re: Internet Mail
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 11:04:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan2.140225.22052@grouper.mkt.csd.harris.com> gaile@grouper.mkt.csd.harris.com (Gail Edwards) writes:
>Our regular internet host is back on the air, so my old email address
>should work again, but the temporary WELL address will still work also.

Like anyone here gives a flying fuck.
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From: dickia@rpi.edu (Andrew B. Dickinson)
Subject: Re: Concert Info
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:52:42 GMT

In article <4244@eastman.UUCP> symonds@kodak.com (F. Peter Symonds) writes:

>   "Back from the almost-dead and certainly grateful, guitarist and tie
>   designer Jerry Garcia has given up a fatty diet of near-Elvisoid
>   proportions and finds himself on the road again with the Grateful Dead.

Wow! What a great adjective -- "near-Elvisoid proportions!"  I'll have
to add that one to my thesaurus!

Andy Dickinson   [----------------------------] dickia@rpi.edu [{<---+++--->}]
271 Lark St. #3, Albany, NY 12210  [--------] 	(518) 426 - 7907  *#*#*#*#*#*#*
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