HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: king@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca (Stephen King)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: SOLDIER OF misFORTUNE
Date: 16 Dec 92 13:35:40 GMT
Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine

In article <16060011@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com> tonyz@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Tony Zugates) writes:
>Snails...arent those things the little disgusting mollusks that I keep
>stepping on in my driveway that spew slimey trails and we used to 
>throw against walls and etc etc?

Yes, those are snails. Were you previously unaware of this fact?

>Disgusting! Crude. Downright nasty...

Throwing them against the walls certainly is disgusting, crude and nasty,
but those little creatures are not, for they are living beings who have as
much right to a place on this earth as you do, Mr Stugats. (perhaps more,
judging by your attitude towards lower life forms).

>Do you eat these things Mr. King?      

Not those ones, but I have eaten the larger varieties, sauteed in butter
and garlic, delicious! But so what?

-- 
                       Se non e` vero, e` ben trovato 
     ...{utzoo|mnetor}!dciem!dretor!king        king@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca
Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: rissa@world.std.com (Patricia O Tuama)
Subject: Re: A racist rears her ugly little head
Followup-To: news.net-cops.kevin-darcy
Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:45:54 GMT

In article <1ggkjqINNaoi@bigboote.WPI.EDU> liz@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (PostMistress General) writes:
>>>Black Power is such bullshit.  We all know that if we ever had a march
>>>for White Rights and White Power that we would all immediately be
>>>labelled racist.  
>>There's no "if" about it, hon. 
>I suppose that blacks and hispanics can't be racist, right?

Non sequitur.

>What would be wrong with celebrating White culture? 

Non sequitur.

>>Actually, dear, these laws are in place to make up for what our par-
>>ents and colleagues did and are still doing.
>Does that mean you or I are doing it?  I'm not.  Are you?

That means it's going on still today in our society.  As for you,
personally, that piece of sniveling crap you wrote is proof of
just how racist you are.

>We all know that affirmative action, in theory, is great.  In
>practice, it is an unfair quota system which only breeds more contempt
>for the minority groups the laws are supposedly trying to help.  

Only among people who already have contempt for those minority
groups.  The rest of us don't feel that way at all.

>Oh yes...I'm a racist white bitch from hell. 

Nah, you're not bright enough or mean enough to be a bitch.

>  Killfile me all you want.

Not a chance.  I'm having a good time, Liz, although I am disap-
pointed at how little effort it took to knock you clear across the
a.f boxing ring.  After all the blustering you've been doing, I'd
have thought you had at least a little stamina.

>If you think I give a shit what you think of me, you are most sadly

Obviously, you do, dear.

---------------
BTW, for someone who is so diligent about noting everyone else's use of
language, and considering your impressive legal credenzas, your definition
of the word 'lie' is rather vague.  Susan made an error in stating facts.
According to you, she's a liar.  I indulged in a little sarcasm.  According
to you, I'm a liar.  Is there anyone on the net with whom you've tangled who
isn't a liar, by your 'definition?'
					-- Chris A Lyman
					<1992Feb20.214508.5088@pwcs.stpaul.gov>
From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Thanks giving day
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:59:27 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Richardson TX
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article <1992Dec11.104414.1@fnala.fnal.gov> dallagata@fnala.fnal.gov (Michele Dall'Agata) writes:

>Wait a minute! I met more people beliving in Adam and Eve story here than 
>in Italy. I spoke with americans and they told me that they teach this 
>bullshit on the school, that they counter this "theory" with Darwinism. 
>Maybe I am wrong, but that's what americans told me. Let me know, now.

>        Michele

Thou hast been misinformed.  No one considers Adam & Eve a science.  Well,
nobody to speak of.  Certainly not most.  In fact it is illegal now to
teach this in public schools.

 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                    !!! H A P P Y   H O L I D A Y S !!!

  - Patrick Taylor, Ericsson Network Systems
    exuptr@exu.ericsson.se                    "Don't let the .se fool you"
    exuptr@ZGNews.Lonestar.Org  <SLOW!>
Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: krobinso@orange.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Kenneth J Robinson)
Subject: Re: Kevin Walsh: A Study of Uselessness (was Re: Lazy Italians)
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:47:38 GMT

In article <1166@dsbc.icl.co.uk> kev@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Kevin Walsh) writes:
>In article <Bz9I07.3CM@cs.psu.edu> krobinso@brickred.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Kenneth J Robinson) writes:
>> 
>> You seem to be quite confused. At least Michele can make a few points
>> now and then, but you sir, have not posted one article that has a 
>> point. Your posts are irrelevant, and you are irrelevant.
>> 
>> As for spending energy, perhaps you should calculate the number of
>> posts you have made compared to Michele's. After gathering this
>> information, it would seem that you put more energy into useless,
>> irrelevant posts than anyone in the history of alt.flame, except
>> for Kevin Darcy. K e n suggests you acquire some clues from someone
>> else other than yourself.
>> 
>As the official supplier of the net.clue [tm].  It would be
>inappropriate to obtain clues from any other source.  Perhaps
>you would like to purchase a net.life [tm] from my vast stock.

But, it wouldn't be wise obtaining clues from a faulty producer
of clues. Studies have shown that the net.clue [tm] is not what
it claims to be, and further, no individuals on this newsgroup
have granted or issued an official supplier of clues, thus it
would seem that your claims are void. A wise consumer would
sense this incompetence immediately, but lucky for you that
there is a massive population of misinformed people residing
here.

>You're lucky I even read this post.  Posts with your name on
>ordinarily find themselves relegated to the net.bin.  It would
>seem that your name hasn't found its way into my new kill file
>just yet; I deleted the previous kill file last week.

Your killfile is irrelevant. K e n suggests that you stick
with the current topic, which is the energy you spend spewing
forth irrelevant posts at unprecedented rates.

>Maybe this post is simply irrelevant; maybe you should get a net.life.

K e n has access to a life, and it is one which does not revolve
about the net.

K e n   R o b i n s o n
Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: jorngh@dhhalden.no (JORN GUNNAR HALONEN)
Subject: KEN Thinks he is a Fucking Prophet ...
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:40:29 GMT


Well, perhaps not fucking, but persons referring to
themselves as he does is a sure sign of an un-healthy
mind. I can picture him sitting in front of his terminal
dressed in a white robe with a plastic halo attached to
his head, chanting out his replies to alt.flame. He's
convinced that he's above mortals and has the power to
judge their postings. Unaware of the real world he sinks
deeper and deeper into his misery of ascii sarcasm until
he finally will buckle over, drooling all over his cheap
keyboard.

J O R N  thinks you should go see a shrink ...

_________________________________________________________________________
| Jorn Halonen              | "dinga ding dang my danga long ling long" |
| jorngh@sofus.dhhalden.no  |                               - Ministry  |
From: d40937@aiken (Jean Yves Desbiens)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Mutt With Tee : expert on /dev/null
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:28:40 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Mutt WlTH TEE after killing a few foreign peasants wrote:
: Mr. Jean-Yves(or what ever the fuck your name is), who can you possibly
: sit back and flame the US military? Are you an expert? Doubt it.

It doesn't take an expert to see that america is a self rightous 
country that does everything for its on good and then claims that
it is for the good of the whole world. Everybody knows about it,
it is not a revelation, if it is you should read the news more often.
If you say that the latest american exploits were done under the UN flag,
this doesn't impress me because the UN is under the US's boot.
The ONU is at the mercy of the security council which is under 
control of the US since russia is in such a bad shape and China
keeps a low profile since the Tianamen massacrer. Anyway, saying that the UN
backs the US is irrelevent especially because of the fact that they haven't
payed their UN dues for two years.

Lets see this is a small list of the countries the sad Army-CIA duo
have fucked up by their self serving actions or inactions :
Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Philipines, Afghanistan, Kurdish Iraq,
palestinian in Koweit, Chili, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Panama, Haiti, Cuba,
Grenada, etc. I won't even talk about the stupid YALTA accord made by FDR.  

: (Yes, I am a military expert, a proud soldier, and a damn great American!) 

What does a military expert do, expertly kill people, expertly run covert
operations that will overthrow a elected socialist government that is
not a friend of the US. Why proud ! the only superiority of the US army rely
in its numbers, US soldiers are run of the mill military killing machines.
As for the great to be american part, you must not live in the same america
we all have learned to despise.

BTW : Blow yourself away, see if we care. 
--
Jean-Yves Desbiens                  | d40937@info.polymtl.ca
Etudiant en genie informatique      | 
Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal Can | 
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Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: katherim@fraser.sfu.ca (Katherine Merle Mason)
Subject: Re: British Empire Loyalists
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:17:41 GMT

liz@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (PostMistress General) writes:

>You're missing the point, clueless puppy...let me club you over the
>head with it.  I CAN'T HAVE A PRIVATE CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE WHO
>WILL POST MY PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL EMAIL FOR EVERYONE TO COMMENT
>ON.  Do we understand the problem now?  Good.

If this is a problem iI have two solutions for you.

1.   Stop sending e-mail.  Use the US-Postal Service.  Even though your
mail may take several years to get to its intended (can't the US do 
anything right), you won't have to worry about your confidential e-mail
being posted.  Either that or use the telephone.  

2.  Keep sending e-mail but stop reading usenet news.  That way you won't
have to consider what other people have to say about your ideas.  It's
called news for a reason.

Hope this helps,
Katherine Merle Mason
Ne Oublie....
Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: rissa@world.std.com (Patricia O Tuama)
Subject: Re: the log in Patrick's eye
Followup-To: news.net-cops.kevin-darcy
Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 04:01:59 GMT

In article <Bz9524.DKv@rice.edu> patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey) writes:
>>If it's not too much bother, Patrick, could you try directing your
>>comments to what I actually wrote instead of what you want to think
>>I wrote?  
>If it's not too much bother to you, perhaps you'd pay attention and notice
>that I did?

No, you didn't.  You read what you wanted to read and it trig-
gered this little button in your mind and all that irrelevant 
and ignorant nonsense came pouring out.

>I don't give a good goddamn what your fellow-travelers think, as they try

My fellow-travelers?


---------------
[Darcy usual b.s. deleted]
I know you would like nothing more than for me to keep joining
you in your endless series of meta-discussions.  You do it because
even the attention of flames is better than no attention at all.
				    -- dean.kaflowitz
				    <1992Feb25.132642.5928@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: rissa@world.std.com (Patricia O Tuama)
Subject: Re: British Empire Loyalists
Followup-To: news.net-cops.kevin-darcy
Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:47:31 GMT

In article <Bz8uCF.ELs@cs.dal.ca> gilgan@ug.cs.dal.ca (Tommy Gilgan) writes:
>Well it does happen. Many Canadian hospitals lack the expertise and 
>equipment for things like double lung transplants, etc.

So?  Neither do many, if not most, American hospitals.

>On the other side, however I have heard that the Canadian health care system
>is a reason a fair number of Americans summer up here.

Yes, I've heard that, too.
From: kev@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Kevin Walsh)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: I love the US of A
Date: 15 Dec 92 10:30:48 GMT
Organization: Cursor Software Limited, London, England

In article <1992Dec14.154408.1@jaguar.uofs.edu> jmb14@jaguar.uofs.edu writes:
>
> 			JAMES BENZELESKI (TROLL)
> 			CITIZEN, U.S.A.
>
You've got some nerve posting a name like that into alt.flame!

No wonder you usualy hide behind your alias.

-- 
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  _/_/_/   _/_/      _/    _/    _/    _/_/  _/     K e v i n  W a l s h
 _/ _/    _/          _/ _/     _/    _/  _/_/      kevin@cursor.demon.co.uk
_/   _/  _/_/_/_/      _/    _/_/_/  _/    _/       kev@dsbc.icl.co.uk
Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Subject: Re: A little posting Decorum (was Re:BAD NEWS YOU PSSANTS)
Summary: Decorum, in here?  Blasphemy!
Organization: We'll let you know when we find it.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:13:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.122538.1@acad.drake.edu> vsg001@acad.drake.edu writes:
>In article <Bz7KC7.7B0@rice.edu>, patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey) writes:
>> 
>> I'd say it had to be Iowa, because as far as I know, heaven isn't buried in
>> snow four months of the year...
>> 
>> --PLH, been there, done that, survived I-29 north of Council Bluffs
>
>The sad thing is, Iowa doesn't have ANY snow. The point being, we have all
>laughed at the attempts to "trow off" our modems. The original post that I
>wrote was posting decorum for all, not necessarily just for myself.

No snow up there now?  Not even between Sioux City and Sioux Falls?  Just
wait...y'all's time *will* come.  (How'd we wind up with decorum in *here*?
With folks like Michele and the Brits, I guess we're in severe need of
some...)

--PLH, deck the walls with bits of Charlie...



--
From: dac@prolix.apana.org.au (Andrew Clayton)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Who cares! (Was: Re: Who is *Kevin Walsh*)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 17:23:42 GMT
Organization: More like Dis~, really.
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

In article <1992Dec18.221317.1@fnala.fnal.gov>, Michele Dall'Agata writes:

> 	Dear Kevin Walsh, who are you? You know, the first time that I 
> posted with you, I thought that you were just a british. "What's worse than 

[gargantuan paragraph, elided]

Michele, 

Get with the pogrom!

You should NOT write textual monoblocks. You should not write
this bullshit about another country, especially when you aren't
proficient with the english language. Flame Kevin in italian, and
then get one of your more competent friends to translate it for
you.

Clue: the residents of Britain are usually known as 'Britons', or
collectively as the British. Many people also refer to them as
'englishmen'. NOBODY refers to individuals from Britain as 'a
british'. 

See what you can do with that. Preferably in a newsgroup that
has a readership that has a leaning towards reading the
disjointed vomitus from decorticated gollums such as yourself.

FOAD.

Dac
--
dac@prolix.apana.org.au              David Andrew Clayton.           // _| _  _
dac@prolix.sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au      Canberra, Australia           \X/ (_](_](_
                    <Using ARN on an Amiga 4000. Yay!>
Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: krobinso@orange.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Kenneth J Robinson)
Subject: Michele: He or She...uncertain... (was Re: For little ghost)
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:01:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.151551.1@fnala.fnal.gov> dallagata@fnala.fnal.gov (Michele Dall'Agata) writes:
>In article <Bz9JD0.563@cs.psu.edu>, krobinso@brickred.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Kenneth J Robinson) writes:
>> 
>> First, Michele is a she, not a he. 
>
>Sorry, Roby, if I am going to smash your dreams, but I am a "he".
>This time *you* seems quite misinformated..... Eh, eh, eh.

My apologies, for your first name is representative of the female
gender in English and it was not obvious from your posting style
that you were of the male gender.

K e n   R o b i n s o n
From: dallagata@fnala.fnal.gov (Michele Dall'Agata)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Complete SUCKER list ...
Date: 14 Dec 92 11:48:45 -0600
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnala.fnal.gov

In article <CINDY.92Dec13185635@solan10.solan.unit.no> cindy@solan10.sola
writes:

>Oh.  One more thing.  We're not all blonde.  Sorry to destroy your
>illusions of the world.

What?!? You are not all Blonde?!?!? ARRRGGHH! You destroyed MY illusions of 
the world!!! You destroyed my *myth*. Where do I go now after the USA?!?!?
I wanted to come to meet you, and all the blondes. But *now*, what can I do 
now? Alt.flame is really sad, too many information. I hope that at least 
*you* are blonde....

	Michele
Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: keegan@acm.rpi.edu (James G. Keegan Jr.)
Subject: Re: British Empire Loyalists
Organization: T.S.A.K.C.
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 13:42:31 GMT

andy@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Andy Hart) writes:
->keegan@acm.rpi.edu (James G. Keegan Jr.) writes:
->>andy@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Andy Hart) writes:
->>->keegan@acm.rpi.edu (James G. Keegan Jr.) writes:
->>->>andy, you've never had a better solution to anything.
->>->>that's one reason you're such a laughingstock.
->>
->>->I, the laughing stock of alt.flame
->>
->>not "the," andy. that would imply there's something
->>special about you. you're one of the many
->>laughingstocks.

->The one and only. 

no, andy, you're just an unimportant one; the kind who,
for the most part, is ignored.
From: dallagata@fnala.fnal.gov (Michele Dall'Agata)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Paranoia, Walsh Destroyer
Followup-To: alt.flame,misc.test
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:01:46 -0600
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnala.fnal.gov

In article <1992Dec11.162324.1@acad.drake.edu>, vsg001@acad.drake.edu writes:
> In article <1992Dec11.124932.1@fnala.fnal.gov>, dallagata@fnala.fnal.gov (Michele Dall'Agata) writes:
>> Anyway, you can't afford my sister. She is too much pretty for you, 
>> fat-free, no mustache, funny and sexy.
> 
> Hmm... you think your sister is sexy? That brings something funny to mind...
> 
> -The Phantom

Sexy, OBVIOUSLY not to me. But she is. Somebody told me that, and I can 
belive it. That's it. UN-FUCKING, MALICIOUS beattlejuice! What the fuck are 
you saying?!?!? I could put my flaming dick inside your asshole, but I DO 
NOT FUCK WITH MY SISTER! Idiot. I am not so disgusting.

	Michele
Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: keegan@acm.rpi.edu (James G. Keegan Jr.)
Subject: Re: a weekend without a bunny
Organization: T.S.A.K.C.
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:24:04 GMT

mel@maddog.ece.nd.edu (Melvin Gladstone) writes:
->keegan@acm.rpi.edu (James G. Keegan Jr.) writes:
->>mel@maddog.ece.nd.edu writes:
->>->Hmmm.  They were posted from my account, they had my name in the
->>->From: line, and it never occurred to you that I posted them.
->>
->>no it didn't, mel. there's nothing lower than the
->>net.scum who post forgeries. as i said, i must have
->>misjudged you.

->Does this mean I finally get one of those vendetta things?

oh no. it means you simply get ignored, for the most
part, as a characterless twit, when you're not being
scorned as a characterless twit.

Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: marco@itnsg1.cineca.it (Marco Olivotto)
Subject: Re: British Empire? No way!
Organization: (none) (standard disclaimer applies)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 12:25:41 GMT

etljmme@etlxd30.ericsson.se (Jim) writes:

>In article 16614@itnsg1.cineca.it, marco@itnsg1.cineca.it (Marco Olivotto) writes:
>>kev@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Kevin Walsh) writes:
>>
>> [Pretentious poetry deleted]
>>
>>		Marco,
>>		an Italian quoting an Englishman.


>What an egocentric little prick you are!!  You obviously think that posting some
>pathetic drivel like that will make us stop and think "Oh, Marco.  You're soooo
>right!".

	I would be very surprised if you did.

>for your third rate teenage rock-band, didn't you?  You intellectual pygmi.

	No, you are wrong. I am quite beyond my teens and, by the way, my
band (wouldn't call it rock) has something like 11 albums out. Not exactly
what you think. And I've never dared call myself an intellectual.

>May your words get the appreciation they deserve and be discarded like soiled
>lavatory paper.

	It's been a pleasure to discuss with you.

	Marco

>Jim.
Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: j_babylo@oz.plymouth.edu (Jessica L. Babylon)
Subject: Re: BAD NEWS YOU PISSANTS
Summary: Well blow...
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, NH.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 02:41:12 GMT

In article <1gaqjfINNi63@oregano.csv.warwick.ac.uk> maufd@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J S Graley) writes:
>HEY YOU ALT.FLAME GEEKS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO LIVE WITHOUT THE GREAT NAME FOR
>A COUPLE OF WEEKS 'COS IM LEAVING THIS GREAT BRITISH EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION
>FOR MY CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY
>
>SO WHILE YOU FOREIGN GEEKS CRY TO YOUR TEDDY BEARS ABOUT HOW CRAP YOUR 
>COUNTRIES ARE, I WILL BE GETTING PISSED, ENJOYING MYSELF AND GENERALLY HAVING
>WHAT YOU LACK : A LIFE
>
>SO HAVE A FUCKING MISERABLE CHRISTMAS AND A FUCKING FUCK OF A NEW FUCKING YEAR
>
>~THE GREAT NAME
>-- 
>    Don't worry,
>     Its like in the comic books...
>      ITS NOT REAL!

WELL BLOW ME VERTICAL:
1. Get the fuck off the caps key you twit.
2. Don't hold such a high opinion of yourself you might not be able to
carry the weight of your fantasies into RL with you and that would be
quite the bummer for all those in fantasy land now wouldn't it?
3. I plan to have an awesome New Year, mainly because i can and am not
a bitter old fart with a death wish.
4. I find it extremely(gales of laughter at this point) funny that you
think you will have any sort of a life, nevermind a 'fuckin' one,
because i for one, think you get flamed IRL as much as you must here.Giggle.

- Roofus "stick that in your pants and smoke it...nah, you'd enjoy it
too much" the Goddess
From: dallagata@fnala.fnal.gov (Michele Dall'Agata)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Texan French...
Date: 12 Dec 92 02:54:00 -0600
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnala.fnal.gov

In article <Bz2CEy.Aws@cmptrc.lonestar.org>, andy@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Andy Hart) writes:
> (Michele "mah belle" Dall'Agata) writes:

Idiot! The French one is "Ma belle". That's why you do not pick up French, 
wonderful women. Yeah, but you still have your horse....

>-- Andy

	Michele
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: "Black Power" (was Re: Perot In 96 (Was Re: Test the flame))