HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bill@prijat.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Re: Coherent Re: The bogus Nixpub Posting
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:47:44 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing Sciences

In article <BtsqFJ.LEE@gator.rn.com>, larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
|> 
|> How about UNIX shells for DOS?  These are Unix compatible -- and maybe
|> they should be included as well.
|> 

How is a "shell" UNIX compatable?  UNIX is an operating system, the shell is
merely a program that runs on top of it. If anyone out here honestly believes
that sh|csh|ksh|tcsh are what makes UNIX the operating system it is, I think
a refresher CS course is warranted.

bill

-- 

     Bill Gunshannon          |        If this statement wasn't here,
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Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: fstuart@eng.auburn.edu (Frank Stuart)
Subject: Re: how to edit a SPARC binary?
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:43:11 GMT

In article <BtI9FJ.xv@rucs.faculty.cs.runet.edu> dana@rucs.faculty.cs.runet.edu (Dana Eckart) writes:
>I am looking for an "easy" way to edit a string in a binary file (for a
>Sun SPARC).  In particular, I have a name embedded in the binary that

I use beav for editing binary files.  I think it is in the comp.sources archive
(check with archie).

>I wish to be able to change when installed on other machines.  I'd rather
>edit the binary than recompile.

Hope the names are the same length!

>
>Any pointers welcome.
>

Frank Stuart           |   Slower traffic keep right.  |  Don't Panic
fstuart@eng.auburn.edu |   MMMMMmmmmm lutefisk.        |  Never moon a werewolf
Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: tfj@apusapus.demon.co.uk (Trevor Jenkins)
Subject: VIM and MAPI specs wanted
Distribution: world
Organization: Job hunters use Parachute
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 00:38:42 +0000

Where can I obtain copies of the Vendor Independent Messaging and the
Mail Application Programming Interface specifications?

Are they FTPable from an archive somewhere?

-------------------------------------------------------------
Trevor Jenkins                                   Radio: G6AJG
134 Frankland Rd, Croxley Green, Rickmansworth, WD3 3AU
email: tfj@apusapus.demon.co.uk
phone: +44 (0)923 776436

Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: kko@fraser.sfu.ca (Samuel Ko)
Subject: Re: *****************HELP neede in DOS 5.0******************
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 02:13:39 GMT

cholette@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Cholette Martin) writes:

>Hello, I need to concatenate to text files together in DOS 5.0 , I have looked
>in many manuals but I can't seem to find the answer. It seems straight
>forward enough yet I am unable to find the answer. I need to append to text
>files into a single text file a.txt + b.txt -> c.txt

copy a.txt+b.txt c.txt  ... that is ...

Xref: sparky comp.misc:3560 comp.periphs:1213 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:23385 comp.sys.misc:670 misc.consumers:16113
From: pavlov@niktow.canisius.edu (Greg Pavlov)
Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.periphs,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.misc,misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Mail Order Hate Letter about USA Flex in Illinois
Date: 4 Sep 92 03:24:21 GMT
Followup-To: comp.misc,comp.periphs,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.misc
Distribution: na
Organization: Canisius College, Buffalo NY. 14208

In article <1992Aug29.191640.16695@yenta.alb.nm.us>, ben@yenta.alb.nm.us (Ben Klausner) writes:
> 
> The only place I have ever in my _extensive_ never had any real problem with
> is PC Connection (800) 243-8088. I don't know how they do it, but there
> service is incredible, and their prices competitive. 

  I second, third, and fourth that.  I and others in my organization have 
  ordered from them since 1984 or thereabouts.  We have NEVER had a bad exper-
  ience with them.  They have always told us if an item we want is out of stock
  and have given us an expectation date that usually proves to be very conser-
  vative (e.g., the item arrives sooner than we were told).  They ship very
  quickly.

  greg pavlov
  pavlov@fstrf,org
Xref: sparky comp.misc:3354 comp.sys.mac.misc:15442
From: raisch@Control.COM (Robert Raisch)
Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: PRODIGY - Speed, Cost, Usefulness, etc.
Keywords: prodigy macintosh
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:05:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: cthulhuC.2481
Followup-To: comp.misc
Distribution: usa
Organization: Control Technology Corp., Hopkinton MA

bond@rtsg.mot.com (Allan Bond) writes:

>** Is there any way to customize the service from my end to reduce the
>   amount of useless advertisements & graphics being dumped to my screen?

BWWWAAAAAA HAAA HAA HAHAHAHAHA......<inhale> BWWAAA HAH HA HA... <sigh>

Sorry, but I find questions like this priceless.  Absolutely priceless.

Where did you get the idea that Prodigy is there to make your experiences 
with it pleasant and productive?  Who told you that you were supposed to
gain any sort of value from using Prodigy?  If you find Prodigy of any
use whatsoever, that is only a carrot to keep you docile and comfortably
numb.  You are not *supposed* to get any value from Prodigy, based on the
following facts.

Now, listen very carefully...


	PRODIGY sells a PRODUCT to a CUSTOMER



	The PRODUCT is *you*, the user.



	The CUSTOMER is the advertiser who wants to innundate you with
	it's own product, USELESS MARKET-BLATHER.



To allow the PRODUCT to limit the USELESS MARKET-BLATHER, would make the 
CUSTOMER very angry and thus, the CUSTOMER would no longer purchase the 
PRODUCT from Prodigy.  This would cause Prodigy to go out of business,
(which in my opinion would be a GOOD THING.)

Any improvement in service from Prodigy will be doled out in eye-dropper 
quantities to the PRODUCT, you, since to actually provide new, better or
more powerful services is not in the best interests of Prodigy.  It 
would interfere with Prodigy's main goal of selling it's PRODUCT to it's
CUSTOMER.

(I would ***LOVE*** to hear from Prodigy regarding this analysis.)

Supporting Prodigy is retrogressive and counter to the growing tide of 
information service users who demand real service.

Support the Internet Society, the Electronic Frontier Foundation, and 
the rest of us dedicated to bringing real, mensurate and usable services
into the hands of every citizen of the world, for little or no money.

	</rr>
-- 
"Nobody knows the tourbles I've seen." ...And I'm not even wearing any trousers.
Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: fritz@ra.csc.ti.com (Fritz Whittington)
Subject: Re: jargn299.zip/zoo
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:56:38 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.113605.18358@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> raju@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Daryanani) writes:
>
>I couldn't figure out where else to ask this, so here goes.  The recent 
>Project Gutenberg newletter mentioned a file jargnx.xxx that contains the 
>hacker's dictionary.  Archie tells me that there is a jargn299.zip available 
>on several sites as:
>
>Host src.doc.ic.ac.uk   (146.169.2.1)
>Last updated 21:29 21 Aug 1992
>
>    Location: /ibmpc/wsmr-simtel20.army.mil/info
>      FILE      r--r--r--    471073  Apr  6 21:00   jargn299.zip
>
>There is also a jargn299.zoo in the OS/2 directory on several sites:
>
>Host luga.latrobe.edu.au   (131.172.2.2)
>Last updated 18:17 21 Aug 1992
>
>    Location: /pub/os2/new
>      FILE      rw-r--r--    795682  Jun  7 22:10   jargn299.zoo
>
>Since there's a large difference in their sizes, can someone tell me what's 
>the difference in their contents?

The OS/2 version has had the text massaged into the INFO format that
is used by OS/2 for things like on-line documentation.  This allows
following cross-references, having several different parts of the
"book" open at once, backtracking, searching on keywords, etc.  In
other words, a sort-of hypertext document.

-- 
Fritz Whittington Texas Instruments, P.O. Box 655474, MS 446 Dallas, TX 75265
    Shipping address: 13510 North Central Expressway, MS 446 Dallas, TX 75243  
fritz@csc.ti.com             Office: +1 214 995 0397     FAX: +1 214 917 7487
Since I am not an official TI spokesperson, these opinions contain no spokes.
From: greenacred@cpva.saic.com
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Re: Wanted: info on older UPS
Date: 26 Aug 92 10:54:27 PST
Organization: Science Applications Int'l Corp./San Diego

In article <8eatSAz0Bwxf9kcbN3@transarc.com>, Ward_Travis@transarc.com writes:
> Article-I.D.: transarc.8eatSAz0Bwxf9kcbN3
> Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
> Lines: 40
> 
> 
>     As I don't read all of these groups regularly, please respond by mail.
>     If anyone else wants to know about this box, send me mail and I'll
>     forward any responses I get to you. Thanks!
> 
> (cross-posted previously to c.s.hardware)
> 
> I have come across a "DataShield Turbo 2 / 300" uninterruptable power
> supply which no longer seems to work. The owner claims that it worked
> when last used, although that was perhaps three or more years ago. Can

hmmm... 3 years old... batteries may have dead cells...

> anyone out there provide any information on this UPS? I have no
> manuals for it at all, and little experience with UPSs in general...
> 
> The symptoms are as follows: the UPS is plugged into a properly
> grounded 120VAC outlet. The "Output Enable" toggle switch on the back
> is set to 1. Nothing is plugged into the "Remote Sensor" mini-jack
> beside this switch. The front panel switch "Alarm/On" is set to "On"
> and the Test switch (which is momentary contact) is left alone or held
> down for a second (each case). No indicators light. The UPS does not
> warm up. No signs of life, smoke, noises, shorts, or demonic
> possession.

possible bad power switch or transformer?

> I eyeballed the fuse and it looks OK (I will put in a new
> fuse this afternoon nonetheless). The power outlet which is driving
> the UPS checks out fine. The UPS is just dead, unless there is
> something to starting it up that I have not tried.
> 
> Any general comments on UPS repair and maintenance are also welcome.
> For instance: is there an old lead-acid battery bank in there which
> would need to have solution added?

most of the recent-(past 5-7 years)-UPSs have sealed cells and are
 "disposable" at certain locations, check local Fire Dept.

> I haven't plugged anything into the
> UPS outputs (120VAC three-prong receptacles), is it waiting for a load
> to be presented before it goes active? 

usually UPS's need not have a load on them to "activate".  But, this can be
easily tested by putting a small fan or something of that low power usage on
the output and trying it.

> Is this "remote sensor" an
> input or an output (output indicating interruption, I presume), and if
> it's an input, what will satisfy it?
> 
> I haven't taken the thing apart yet, so excuse my ignorance about its
> internals...
> 
I'm not an expert but hope this helps.
good luck...
DRG

> 
> --
> Ward C. Travis		Pittsburgh PA	"The fact is the sweetest dream
 that
> travis@transarc.com	(412) 338 4388	       labor knows."  - R. Frost
From: thewa@liverbird.liverpool.ac.uk (Alan Thew)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Basic Information about use of Compilers?
Date: 3 Sep 1992 03:48:43 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Does anyone know if information on the use of compiled
languages and arguments for compilers vs interpreters etc are
available via anon ftp anywhere? Searches using gopher and WAIS were
not sucessful, while archie yielded information that was too technical
(interesting though). I'm really after an introduction.

Thanks.
 
      Alan Thew : The University of Liverpool Computer Laboratory
Internet/Bitnet : thewa@livbird.liv.ac.uk  UUCP : ...!mcsun!uknet!livbird!thewa
          Voice :  +44 51 794 3735         Fax :  +44 51 794 3759
Xref: sparky comp.misc:3531 comp.unix.admin:4846 comp.unix.large:297 comp.sys.sun.admin:6077
From: vulture@carrion.cc.ic.ac.uk (Thomas Sippel - Dau)
Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.large,comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Any clues about IBM mainframe tape conversions?
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:54:47 GMT
Reply-To: cmaae47@cc.ic.ac.uk
Organization: Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine

In article <1992Sep2.125218.11643@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, kann@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Kirk M. Anne) writes:
 -- We have been asked to decommission our IBM VM/CMS mainframe.  The committee
 -- that is working on this project has asked me to find out what other sites
 -- do with IBM mainframe tapes for UNIX systems.  I know that 'dd' will read
 -- the tapes, but many of our users have SAS tapes that were created on CMS.
 -- I would like to find some clues to the following questions:

You may be in for a shock: On one system here people had SAS tapes which needed
user intervention when the computer centre changed to different disks, as the
layout (number of sectors/track etc.) was somehow encoded in the data. It was
relatively easy for the user to do, but a terrible trap for people who are away
for a year or so. The computer centre could not reformat the tapes !
N.B. that was on an MVS system.

 -- 	What do you do when you get tapes from IBM sites?

Use ansitape for DB and FB formats, avoid VB format. Copying the tapes to an
ansi labelled (rather that standard - i.e. ebcdic - labelled) tape is all 
you need, if you have support for ansi labelled tapes. The system will tell you
when converting to ansi labelled is inappropriate, such as for load and object 
modules, and for other binary files.

 -- 	What utilities do you use to convert tapes?

A nearby university with a network connection and the relevant system.

 -- 	How do you handle SAS tapes created on CMS?

You need to create export files, which usually conserves the current state
of the database, but may well lose some history.

 -- 	How do you handle multi-tape data sets?

Very carefully. But it is not such a problem when you have still a native system
to read them on. A QIC150 cartridge can carry the contents of about 5 phase 
encoded or one group encoded tape, a basic exabyte 10 to 15 times as much, a DAT
about 8 times. Beyond that you are talking seismic data sets.

It may well be worthwhile to finance a small workstation (a SUN SLC or DECstation
3100 is ample) with 2 GB disk and some tape devices just for this. That should
cost you about the equivalent of a weeks maintenance on the mainframe, if our
experiences are anything to go by.

                                        Thomas

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Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: ken@GTEtele.com (Ken Swapp)
Subject: looking for Future Domain
Organization: GTE Telecom, Inc.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:34:52 GMT

Howdy,

Does anybody know the location or phone number of a computer-hardware
company called Future Domain?  Our company has two old PCs with SCSI 
controller cards from Future Domain, and we need more information on 
the cards & company.

Thanks,

Ken Swapp
ken@gtenmc.gtetele.com

-- 
Ken Swapp
ken@gtenmc.gtetele.com
Newsgroups: comp.misc,alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc
From: dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com (David W. Tamkin)
Subject: Re: The bogus Nixpub Posting
Organization: Contributor Account at ddsw1, Chicago, Illinois  60657
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:35:38 GMT
X-Disclaimer:  Material posted in this article is the sole responsibility of
                the poster and does not represent MCSNet or the system owners.

brendan@cygnus.com wrote in <34429@hoptoad.uucp>:

| Someone had been posting a list of "other" open systems, but their
| name escapes me.  I haven't seen it in a bit; some digging should make
| it turn up---perhaps they'll be willing to include dixie.com without
| disclosing the phone number.

That might be the NetPub list, maintained by Robert Hoffmann on Infoplus --
I can't remember now whether his logname there is "robert" or "hoffmann" but
the site is @infopls.chi.il.us (no u in 'infopls').  He and Andrew Rossmann
(andyross@infopls.chi.il.us, owner of the site) started the list because
Infoplus runs Waffle on a PC and didn't qualify for Nixpub by dint of running
a non-Unix OS.

David W. Tamkin   Box 59297   Northtown Station, Illinois  60659-0297
dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com    CompuServe: 73720,1570    MCI Mail: 426-1818
Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.lang.c
From: barnhart@gagme.chi.il.us (Mr Aaron Barnhart)
Subject: Re: PRODIGY - Speed, Cost, Usefulness, etc.
Originator: barnhart@gagme
Keywords: prodigy macintosh hoffman estates
Organization: Evanston, Illinois
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 07:26:54 GMT

This is in reply to wcaw@juliet.caltech.edu (Wilisch, Wolf C. A.), who wrote:
:In article <2481@cthulhuControl.COM>, raisch@Control.COM (Robert Raisch) writes...
:>bond@rtsg.mot.com (Allan Bond) writes:
:> 
:>>** Is there any way to customize the service from my end to reduce the
:>>   amount of useless advertisements & graphics being dumped to my screen?
:> 
:>BWWWAAAAAA HAAA HAA HAHAHAHAHA......<inhale> BWWAAA HAH HA HA... <sigh>
:> 
:>Supporting Prodigy is retrogressive and counter to the growing tide of 
:>information service users who demand real service.
:> 
:
:While I must agree with most of what has been said about P* in this group, P*
:doe have one advantage.  For people who do not have access to USENET and who
:are really only interested in participating in bulletin boards and the 
:occasional e-mail, P* offers to very cheap alternative to, e.g. CompuServe and
:America Online.  Granted it is excrutiatingly slow and the ad clutter is most
:annoying, but I know a few people who are not too worried about things taking
:a bit longer or the screen looking crowded.  My wife sometimes spends hours
                                              ^^^^^^^
:on P* (as well as on USENET), and I would hate paying CompuServes prices
:($13.- per hour for their 'forums') for that.  In general, Prodigy doesn't
:measure up to other services, but in certain specifics, it has its uses, I
:find.
:

Oh god, that's just what we need, more unpretentious non-technical
non-experts, people who don't care what the well-informed experts in
our industry -- namely, every white male -- thinks about such pimples
on technology's arse as Prodigy.

Well, as long as us know-it-alls are slumming for a moment in the
Waste Land of Prodigy, allow me to mention as how my alma mater,
Northwes ... wait a minute.

<trumpet> TA TA TA TAAAAHHHHH!

*Northwestern University* subscribes to a Career Network that is using
the Prodigy network so that users may cheaply hook up to a nationwide
net of job and resume info.  I talked with the services rep today and
she made sure I knew they were just using the Prodigy *network* not its
kitschy interface.

Frankly, if Prod offered enough features and still charged a flat fee,
with no hidden costs, I'd be on board.  As it is, there are just enough
customer-service reasons to avoid Prod without having to sound like
such a prig -- but that's an expert for you.

-- 
Mr. Aaron Barnhart@gagme.chi.il.us -- posting from Evanston, Illinois
Newsgroups: comp.misc,alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: The bogus Nixpub Posting
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 07:42:47 GMT

What constitutes a public access site?  halcyon is an Internet site
that charges for shell access.  It also maintains a bbs (Waffle)
that folks can use as they wish for 30 days (or until I remember
to cancel their account).  Does public access necessarily mean
unlimited access?  Definitions are often created to fill an
immediate need, and as long as there's no cookbook for any of,
my interpretation would be that a site that allows the general
public to have access (commercial or not) is a public access site.

However, such a site should (again, my feeling), if it wishes
to be known as public access, make some sort of access public,
rather than locking the door.  If I were to seal up halcyon,
I'd at least provide one phone line (not on the rotary) that
could access a public, limited account, if for nothing more
than to offer informational bulletins.  But admins are quite
the territorial creature, and do as they wish.  That is what
makes this whole 'network' so diverse.

Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: crpresto@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Charlie Preston)
Subject: Re: PRODIGY - Speed, Cost, Usefulness, etc.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:25:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Illinois State University
Keywords: prodigy macintosh

In article <1992Aug29.051624.6704@ctr.columbia.edu> jwiegand@moe.eng.temple.edu () writes:
>
>Well, my newspaper does not force me to read the ads, as P* does.

I've learned to ignore the bottom portion of the screen just as ignore the
advertising in the newspaper.

>I tried Prodigy twice, and the second time it was worse because
>they added animated ads. Not only did I have to wait for the ad to finish,
>many of them had 5-10 screens (animation cells).

A little familiarity with the system could have avoided being stuck in an
Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: drac@uumeme.chi.il.us (Bruce Maynard)
Subject: Iris/Unibasic
Organization: UUMEME Public Access UNIX
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 01:34:38 GMT

So, anmyone "out there" in the Net use Unibasic or Point 4 IRIS on any regular basis?
From: asr@castle.ed.ac.uk (Angus "Fluffy" Rae)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Re: Taken delivery of an old PC... now what?
Date: 4 Sep 92 13:07:54 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: CATHY_VoiceMail_Project

raju@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Daryanani) writes:
>In <25430@castle.ed.ac.uk> asr@castle.ed.ac.uk (Angus "Fluffy" Rae) writes:
>You should see it counting up the RAM on bootup.  ROM Basic only uses a 64K 
>data segment, hence the 62K free message.  The AddRam board sounds like a 
>multi-function board to me, i.e., RAM + clock + serial port + game port.  But 
>on the old PCs you needed a program to read the clock and set the system dat 
>and time, as on your Atari, because IBM only built a clock into the AT and at 
>that point they started providing ROM support for it.  Your Addram board 
>sounds like it's loaded with RAM and you should see the startup memory tests 
>count up to 640K at the most.

Well, that explains part of my problem... I've now fiddled with the DIP
switches on the Addram and nothing has changed, but of course I was only
using BASIC as a check, so I would only ever see 62K. Damn. I hope I can
change it back again!

The first question is - what startup memory checks? Nothing appears
onscreen until it trys to call the drive to load DOS, and then it either
loads DOS or defaults into BASIC. While I was fiddling with the DIP
switches I got some errors on bootup - PARITY CHECK 2 was one, the
others were either 201 or 1055 201 whatever THAT means.
I'll grab myself a memory check program from somwhere or other, unless
DOS has one (I don't use PCs much...)

But the addram needs driver software? Thought so. Well, if anyone has it
I'd be grateful for a copy, assuming it's PD or the company is bust or
something like that of course.

>You should be able to get Windows versions up to 3.0 to run on it.  Win3 you 
>have to run in real mode - startup with win /r.  But I think you can't use any 
>version after 1.x off floppies only.  I'm don't remember if I tried runnng 2.x 
>off floppies.

Wheeee! That sounds like fun, even at a speed so slow you can hear the
cogs turning...

Thanks to everybody who's helped me with this, by the way, sorry I
haven't got time to reply individually.

-- 
Angus G Rae, the Cuddly Vampire Teddy Bear [asr@castle.edinburgh.ac.uk]
"Let me explain about Genetic Engineering. That's where you take a cell
from a human being and put it into a sheep, in the hope that one day it
will go out and buy something."           Neil Innes, More Jam Tomorrow
Newsgroups: comp.misc