HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh)
Subject: Re: Fee comments
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:53:26 GMT

>    to use SCB when you require them, esp. given the fact that
>    there is hardly a single Bahai in Bangladesh? Bangladesh
>    has been a country which is comprised of Muslims, Hindus,
>    Bhuddists, Christians and some animists. In my entire life
>    in Bangladesh, I have never met a single Bahai. You want
>    to present your religion, fine, go ahead and use SRB, not
>    SCB.
          - Siddiqui.

Well ; I am sorry I did not know that. My advisor who is from Bangladesh
told that there are many there. I apologize for my mistake.
My aim for asking questions was to open a frank dialogue between Hindus
and Muslims which vitiated the atmosphere in the subcontinent for a
long time. I don't see what's the harm there. At least both party are
getting an authentic view.

As Kamran said in SCI conversion means, Knowing and acting. I am giving
only the knowledge. I have no power and intention to make you act. So
what's the problem. Did I ever tell Quran or Islam is bad. 
Arindam
From: dharma@verdix.com (Manjeri Dharmarajan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: why satti is practiced
Date: 16 Aug 92 09:02:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: verdix.4592
Reply-To: dharma@VERDIX.COM (Manjeri Dharmarajan)
Organization: Verdix Western Operations; Aloha, OR

In article <memo.578099@cix.compulink.co.uk> dbailey@cix.compulink.co.uk writes:
>
>Is it still practised and, if so, why?  A complete answer would
>include why the law is not enforced, if that is the case.
>
>I wouldn't have believed that it could still be practised if I
>had not read the article in The Observer two weeks ago about the
>prevention of female children and subsequently found that this is
>a major concern of UNICEF in India.  The fact that India has not
>joined itself to any of the UN conventions that outlaw such
>practises increases my personal concern.
>
>Diane

Do you believe abortion is wrong?

Do you believe a woman has the right to find out the sex of her foetus?

Do you believe a woman who aborts a female foetus is doing something wrong?

I use "wrong" to mean "should be prevented from doing so", instead of 
"not right."

And what does this have to do with Sati?

	Dharmarajan
From: jsingh@uicadf.csl.uiuc.edu (Jaidip Singh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Query, Immiration
Date: 14 Aug 1992 15:53:50 GMT
Organization: Coordinated Science Laboratory, University of Illinois
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: uicadf.csl.uiuc.edu

I need my birth-certificate for applying for my Green-card.  The problem is
that I never had a birth-certificate.  I believe that I would need some kind
of an affidavit from India.
	Can someone with experience in a similar situation, please send me 
some info. about what exactly do I need.  What should the affidavit be like?
I am traveling to India next month.

	I'll be extremely grateful for any help.

Thanking you in anticipation.

-Avinash 

-- Please reply to  akag0916@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Prolific posters of the last fortnight....
Date: 13 Aug 1992 14:49:21 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phad.hsc.usc.edu

In article <9208131338.AA16076@lambada.oit.unc.edu> Veeramany.Sthanumurthy@lambada.oit.unc.edu writes:
> 
> No no bard          [*]
> Not subtly hard
> B silent or not
> Pretenders know not
> Such poise
> Less noise
> Rhythm-less carriage
> May make marriage
> For verse
> Be terse
> Or else funny mister
> 'least lack less lustre! :-)
> 
> I thank you for your support!

You have the makings of a gargantuan geek,
Even though your postings are utterly meek,
and of reasoning flawed and weak.

Every time you use your bird brains and beak,
to post articles on this net with a foul reek,
and that too in languages other than Greek,
it inevitably causes me to go eeks.....

From the most unlikely quarters you seek support,
where there is none, you try to establish rapport,
Makes me suspect if you are a wimp,
Your place is not on the net, but on a extraterrestial blimp.


Samit


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Subject: Re: On the Birth of Andhra Pradesh
Reply-To: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 19:58:00 GMT


Please cross post soc.culture.telugu articles onto SCI for a week or
two, untill everyone gets to subscribe to s.ci.t.

I do not `get' scit here in michigan....


Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)


In article <1992Aug21.113320.9624@uoft02.utoledo.edu> vprasad@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
>vprasad@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
>> 	Methinks you are in error here; it must be 1st *November* 1953.
>	I am afraid I have shown myself to be very ignorant about the early
>	days of formation of AP. Thanks a lot to Sreenivasa Rao, Gopal and
>	Sudhakar (via Email) for correcting me.
>
>	As a request to others who are contributing this debate, please note
>	that at our site there is no soc.culture.indian.telugu as yet, so
>	please crosspost those articles on SCI too. Anyone who wants to
>	follow up to my articles on this thread from soc.culture.tamil, (which
>	were originally crossposted there) and are interested in my responses, 
>	I request them to crosspost to SCI too, as I don't subscribe to SCT,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	nor do I want to. Thanks.
>
>	Now, let us get on with this (quite interesting) debate.
>        
>	Siva Prasad.				vprasad@uoft02.utoledo.edu 


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bkv2673@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Miester aLster)
Subject: Re: Help: Pop. of Saudi Arabia, anyone know ?
Reply-To: bkv2673@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 18:34:49 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.110104.12700@phillip.edu.au>, 
t9214309@phillip.edu.au writes:

>Dear Poster , 
>
>> Anyone know the approx. population of Saudi Arabia?
>		          ^^^^^^^^^^
>Good Gosh! I read the header and thought it was POP music at Saudi Arabia.
>Was properly surprised !!
>
>Sorry, Don't know the stats, I'm afraid
>Nagesh 


	Neither do I but I've lived there.....gosh....that will be 
	the day. Armageddon day could perhaps bring the general populace 
	out of their cloistered, uncatholic vision of life and cause them 
	to look outward. Perhaps, it's the most narrow minded and closed 
	culture I've ever seen or lived in. One half of the population	
	(womyn) literally live behind bars....aaaaaaaaaaargh! They're 
	totally closed to other bodies of thought....well, well.....what 
	a country chooses to do with their things I guess, is their business
	....the lesser said the better.

	U guys...u wanna flame me!? Go ahead - have a field day! My opinions
	are purely mine and I'll stick to them unless someone comes along
	and makes such an intellectual impact so as to cause me to change my 
	views. 

	This post will probably bring some fundamentalists back to light
	and that'll help too since we'd know the 'closed' ones....

	go ahead...don't hesitate!

	regards,

	- aL
From: slahiri@jade.tufts.edu (Sandip Lahiri)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Is it correct that ...
Date: 22 Aug 92 12:27:07 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
Originator: slahiri@jade.tufts.edu

In article <1992Aug21.213034.28050@news.uiowa.edu> rachada@icaen.uiowa.edu (Ramakrishna Chada) writes:
>In article <1992Aug21.195644.28162@jade.tufts.edu> slahiri@jade.tufts.edu (Sandip Lahiri) writes:
>>I do not know whether this is true or not, but there seems to 
>>be a strong belief that masterbation lowers a person's 
>>
>>-Sandip
>
>Atleast you should learn how to spell the word.
>
>Ramakrishna

What's in a name oops, spelling ? BTW did it reminded you of something
else ? Just curious.

-Sandip
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,rec.travel.air
From: jis@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (jishnu.mukerji)
Subject: Re: December Fares to Calcutta
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:54:34 GMT

In article <92223.161504SSEN@auvm.american.edu> Shinjinee Sen <SSEN@auvm.american.edu> writes:
[ ... much informative material excluded for the sake of brevity ... ]
>
>Bengal Travels
>They suggest American to London, and then Biman to Cal; however, the price is
>roughly the same.

By December you should be able to fly New York to Calcutta by Biman.
They are scheduled to begin their twice a week New York service in
October, according to the OAG.

Jishnu Mukerji
jis@usl.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.asian-indian,soc.culture.usa,soc.women
From: bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw)
Subject: Re: Family Values and the West
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: net 
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:23:16 GMT

In <1992Aug5.030657.20108@leland.Stanford.EDU> repnomar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Janet M. Lafler) writes:

>The problem with the "Family Values" rhetoric of the Right Wing is that
>it's code for anti-gay-and-lesbian, anti-women-working-outside-the-home,
>anti-single-parents, and anti- any discussion of negative aspects of the
>nuclear family.  Not to mention anti-abortion and anti-birth-control,
>and anti-any-family-that-is-not-"nuclear."  The nuclear family is a rela-
>tively recent development, and, in my opinion, has a lot of drawbacks.
>The main one is that it tends to result in the isolation of old people
>and the isolation of women in the home.

>/Janet

We should not forget the effects of industrialization, especially that
of more recent times where mobility is rewarded, upon the agrarian
nuclear family. In rural, agrarian societies it was not unusual to
find three or more generations living in the same house (Ever see
some of those country houses that seemed to have been added onto
more than once ). Having grown up in the country, although it was
one family per household, my grandparents were just across the 
road from our house. Now I have a brother in Toronto, a sister
near Vancouver, and my son lives in Ottawa (oops! secrets out,
Florence imported me :-).)

As long as we insist on multi-national corporate life, changing
mores, other societal changes, etc., the vaunted nuclear family
will become a rarity (if it hasen't already). To me it is only
another indication of the GOPs dinosaurhood.

I am reminded of another thing that mitigated against the nf.
I am sure that most urban and suburban dwellers here on the
net have experienced the 'new development' phenomena, where
as a new housing development opens that it is immediately
populated with people all of a very similar age group. Thus,
the children grow up assuming the world is populated with
other children their age and parents. It is not until the
development gets to be about 20-30 years old that you begin
to get a mix of age groups. Reminisence may bring warm and
fuzzy feelings, but the times they are a changin, its just
that George and Dan can't see it, or else they are pandering
to peoples warm and fuzzies.

REB
From: reddy@cis.njit.edu (Kishore P. Reddy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: VISA GURUS: Extending Visiting Visa
Date: 22 Aug 92 04:20:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology



	Hi Netters!

	Please provide the information regarding the extension of visiting visa
	and the best and easy way to proceed. Please send me any info. or your
	experiences in this matter. Thanx in advance.

	-
	Kishore
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bijoor@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Help: Pop. of Saudi Arabia, anyone know ?
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:30:24 GMT

Anyone know the approx. population of Saudi Arabia?

I am writing a paper and I need the above info. Since there is no newsgroup
for Saudi Arabia, I thought about posting it here. Please reply as soon as 
possible via e-mail.

		My address:
			   BIJOOR@ECS.UMASS.EDU.

		Thanx, appreciate it. -- Arjun.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ash@silver.sni.ca (Ashwin Palekar)
Subject: Attn: Vivek R.Prabhu
Reply-To: ash@silver.sni.ca (Ashwin Palekar)
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf, Sietec Open Systems, Toronto, Canada
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:37:19 GMT

I am unable reach you at the address vivek@ecst.csuchico.edu.
message follows now:
Subject: Warning From uucp


We have been unable to contact machine 'cvms' since you queued your job.

        cvms!mail cindy!logrus!charnel!ecst.csuchico.edu!vivek   (Date 08/10)

.......
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:29082 rec.music.indian.classical:1511 soc.culture.tamil:1451 alt.culture.kerala:182
From: corun@access.digex.com (Corun MacAnndra)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,rec.music.indian.classical,soc.culture.tamil,alt.culture.kerala,alt.culture.karnataka,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Classical dance music
Date: 21 Aug 92 02:00:34 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA

Greetings to one and all.

A friend of mine is beginning to learn classical Indian dance, and I wanted
to get her a present of tapes or CDs. My dilema is that I do not know what
music is appropriate. While I enjoy Indian music, I do not know much about
it, therefore do not know what is considered dance music, and what is only for
listening, or if there is even such a distinction. I have been following this
forum for several weeks now, and have not read anything specific to dance. I
would very much appreciate any information any of you could give me. There are
several places near me where I can obtain tapes. Specific album names or the
names of performers who specialize in dance music would be most helpful.

My thanks in advance for your kind assistance.

Namaste.

Corun
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:28818 rec.travel.air:4147
From: ecrjbruce@economics.adelaide.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: How is Cathay Pacific Airlines ?
Date: 20 Aug 92 08:48:41 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Organization: Economics, University of Adelaide

In article <18AUG199216022840@rosie.uh.edu>, elee74n@rosie.uh.edu (P.D.D) writes:
> In article <1992Aug18.021200.13696@openage.openage.com>, ghost@openage.openage.com (Glenn Host) writes...
>>gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal) writes:
>> 
>>>Hi,
>> 
>>>I would like to know if any of you had an experience flying with 
>>>Cathay pacific. Seems they are offering a good deal of around $1420
>>>with a night stay at Hong Kong (both to and fro) with hotel expenses 
>>>paid. Does anyone have an idea of how much the visa in HongKong would cost 
>>>and what are the food and other expenses. Also how good are they about 
>>>schedules etc. 
> 	
 
>>Cathay Pacific is a good reliable airline but it bit more expensive than
>>the rest.
>> 

If you can arrangeto fly  CP over Chinese new year I can guarantee you an
experience you will not believe.   We flew into HK during this period and there
were free drinks, all sorts of food which was way above any airline food I have
evertasted and the cabin crew were their usual  magnificent selves.   Given  a
choice of airlines to fly I would go by Cathay or Singapore - both of which
treat you extremely well.  Given that British has just won the international
tea award it may be time to reconsider them as well.....

regs

Rob
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: asokan@Ingres.COM (Ashok Subramanian)
Subject: Padmashree Smt. Sanjukta Panigrahi's Odissi dance recital in SFO bay area...
Reply-To: asokan@Ingres.COM (Ashok Subramanian)
Organization: Ingres, an Ask Company, Alameda CA 94501
Distribution: ca
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:50:51 GMT

----------------------------------------------------------------------

               RAAGTARANG DANCE INSTITUTE OF SANJOSE

                         PROUDLY PRESENTS
 
             PADMASHREE Smt. SANJUKTA PANIGRAHI & PARTY

            in a stunning presentation of EPIC COMPOSITION


		 ************************************
		 *                                  *
                 *   G E E T A   G O V I N D A M    *
		 *                                  *
		 ************************************
 		   [in classical odissi dance style]

                 Music composition and direction by :

                   PANDIT Sri. RAGHUNATH PANIGRAHI


    on August 23rd, Sunday, 1992 @ Canada College, Time : 4 PM Sharp

                     For Information & Tickets :

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           Tickets : Donors/Patrons - $25, Adults - $15, $10

                 10% Discount for Seniors & Students

       Co-sponsored by Malayalee Association of Northern California
 
                          & INDIA FELLOWSHIP
From: 9211141l@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: test...please ignore
Date: 19 Aug 92 07:01:46 GMT
Organization: University of South Australia




test....please ignore
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: youhong@solan.unit.no ()
Subject: assistant
Keywords: bye
Organization: Norwegian Institue of Technology
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 18:43:52 GMT
From: msardar@digi.lonestar.org (Mohammed Tariq Sardar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: DESI JOKE FOR PUNJABI (adults only) #4
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:22:22 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: DSC Communications, Plano Tx.

No discriminations are intended towards any minority group, purpose of
the joke is to build bridges and see the lighter side of our culture.

This joke is dedicated to all my Indian and Pakistani friends who have graduated
from the University of Aston in Birmingham England (U.K)


	 Title of the Joke:	     TAWA GARAM HEY
				     -------------

Definition of TAWA: It's a metal plate used to make desi bread (roti).

A newly married Punjabi couple are going on thier honeymoon by train. Since the
journey was long they take roti, ichar, pokaras and somasas with them. 

They agreed, when ever they want to make LOVE  during the night they must use 
the code word "ROTI KHAA LOO" (have some bread). Soon, the night falls, the wife 
sends the signal "ROTI KHAA LOO", well our punjabi veer wastes no time to 
fullfils his desires.

Twenty minutes later he calls out "MAIN NAI ROTI KHANI HAY" and she replies 
"AA KAA KHAA LOO", well this continues throuhout the night.

In the morning both have smiles on their faces, the bride  starts off saying 
RAAT TWASI, DUS ROTTYAN  KHADYAN (last night you ate 10 roti's). 

To which he replies,"AYA TAA, SARA SAR GHOOT HAY" (it's a lie), MAIN TAA PUNG
ROTTIAN KHADYAN (i only ate 5). 

Listenging to their coversation was a young guy who had been sleeping on the top 
berth during the night, he sticks his head out and says:

      MAIN KYAA, TAWA GARM HAY, LAGDAY HATH MAIN BE DOO ROTTIAN PKAA LAYAN

      (Well the plate was hot why not bake some cookies my self)




							Tariq Sardar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: a0s8318@zeus.tamu.edu (SEETHARAM, AJAY)
Subject: Information about Utah STate- Environmental
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 02:55:00 GMT

Hi Netters, I need urgently info about Environmental Engg at Utah State.
Please send me/post to the newsgroup your name and phone number and I will
get in touch with you. Please respond to this even if u are not in environmental
but know *Anything* about the dept.
Thanks
ajay
a0s8318@zeus.tamu.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: crick@htlv.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD))
Subject: Re: Mr. Ed (was: Ars Poetica ... )
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:34:28 GMT

>In article <1992Aug14.161321.9211@nas.nasa.gov> raghavan@wk21.nas.nasa.gov (Venkatraman Raghavan) writes:
>
>>> Sthan.
>>> PS. Sure it isn't Mr. Ed?
>>
>>Can't be. Mr. Ed was a horse, not an ass.
>>-Raghavan, V.
>

Raghavan's retort is quite witless.
He's shown that his brain is the dimmest.
No creative thought
From him could come forth.
And all because he has a limp-wrist.

Ed
From: godura@zeus.cis.udel.edu (Ruchir Godura)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: why satti is practiced
Keywords: satti
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:07:36 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark

In article <1992Aug11.024826.28544@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu> ravi@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu (Pattalachinti) writes:
>In article <166kk9INNdg5@vulcan.ksu.ksu.edu> sngattan@vulcan.ksu.ksu.edu (Sanjay N Gattani) writes:
       < stuff deleted >
>
>I think it was during the time of MOGUL attacks the sati system
>came into prominence.  The reason behind this, I am not very sure
>somebody out there should enlighten me.
>

AFAIK ( As far as I know ) there are several reasons for the continuance
of the practice of Sati, most ofthm being social. Traditionally, widows
have been considered a usless liability to the family and comunnity. To
top that, people even believed that the wife is the key to her husband's
well being, and that the widow was, due to her bad karma somehow
responsible for her ex husband's death. It was thus thought that she
should be burnt alive with her husband's body. Those widows that did not
subject themselves to this practice, were forced to live a life full of
torture, humiliation, and near slavery. There were therefore many women
who would willingly throw themselves into the fire -- just to escape the
horrible life that awaited them.

Ruchir.
From: jsg9939@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (J. Sreedhar )
Subject: Re: Looking for Tarun Kapoor, Caltech
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 23:23:34 GMT
Keywords: Tarun Kapoor, Caltech, Undergrad

Sorry, that should have read `Give him my e-mail address'
or `Give me his e-mail address'!!!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.portuguese