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From: prabu@cs.utexas.edu (Prabu Muthu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Trent Tucker signs w/ BULLS
Date: 7 Oct 1992 09:39:18 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
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In article <1992Oct06.201538.8600@brtph560.bnr.ca> markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205) writes:
>
>I think this is a great move by the Bulls. 
>
>Look out...
>
>Andrew W. Markham (markham@bnr.ca)


Everybody's praising the Bulls for acquiring Tucker, but nobody's mentioning the fact that
Tucker was with the Spurs last year, backing up Willie Anderson and Greg Sutton and Vinnie
Johnson.  If he were any good at all, he would have at least been ahead of Sutton in the 
depth chart, don't you think?

Of course, he'll probably be the great "role player" the Bulls always seem to pick up.

Prabu
From: hira@cme.nist.gov (Ron Hira)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Bullets seek Exemption on Bernard
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:41:09 GMT
Reply-To: hira@cme.nist.gov
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology

Today's Post reported that the Bullets are seeking a salary
cap exemption for Bernard King because he's still injured.
If it goes thru, half of Bernard's $2.5 mil (which he'll still
be paid in full) can be used to sign another player. 
This could be good news for signing Gugs. If the Bullets extend
the deal for long enough, the $1.25 mil 1st yr salary might be
large enough. 

This all stems from the news that Bernard has not shown significant
improvement in his condition; he still cannot run without pain.
Although he spent all of last year on IR, the league did not grant
the Bullets an exemption last season, so I don't hold out that much
hope that this will go thru.

In other news, Chapman, Grant, & newly acquired Buck Johnson all
showed up early for camp. Chapman has apparently lost 13 lbs. and
is down to 192. His foot is supposedly 100%; we'll see.
No sign of Fatso yet. He hasn't taken the team physical yet, and
will likely not be allowed to play until he does so, that is if
he shows up at all of course.

Ron
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From: grubin@virga.rap.ucar.edu (Rick Grubin)
Subject: MIGHTY NUGGETS intrasquad scrimmage
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Keywords: Ellis  Mutombo  Williams  look good
Reply-To: grubin@virga.rap.ucar.edu (Rick Grubin)
Organization: Research Applications Program/NCAR, Boulder, CO
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:49:24 GMT



Last night 10-15-92 the MIGHTY NUGGETS held their first intrasquad
scrimmage of their training camp, at the Fieldhouse of the Air Force
Academy.  The team was divided into two teams of 8 players each (Blue
and White), and the fans had their first opportunity to see #1 draft
picks LaPhonso Ellis and Bryant Stith, in head coach Dan Issel's
motion offense.

The rosters were:
White: LaPhonso Ellis, Marcus Liberty, Scott Hastings, Chris Jackson,
Winston Garland, Bryant Stith, Gary Plummer, (?) Hall.

Blue: Anthony Cook, Reggie Williams, Dikembe Mutombo, Todd (the Godd)
Lichti, Mark Macon, Kevin Brooks, Robert Werdann, Gary Plummer, (?) Watts.

(Plummer played for both squads due to injuries).  Not all players in
camp participated in the game.

Ellis played really well, scoring 19 points and grabbing 9 rebounds.
He held his own down low and got out to run the break alot.  His
athleticism was clearly evident, and his play impressive.  Stith also
played well (13 points), still needs work on his defense though.  But
for two rookies, they did well.

For the returning players, Mutombo continued where he left off, scoring
15 points and getting 14 rebounds (7-13 from the line!).  He appears
bigger and stronger, and in better shape than last year; he didn't seem
tired at all.  In the motion offense he didn't have the ball worked to
him alot, but the offense allowed him to get in position down low much
easier and more often.  Kevin Brooks showed his jumpshot -- what's been
expected from him -- often.  He appears to have confidence in playing now.
Mark Macon shot 7-10 from the field and had 5 assists while running the
point for the Blue team.  It was a good first outing for him, he has to
prove himself after last year's offensive debacle.  Chris Jackson is
clearly in better shape, having lost weight and gained strength from time
in the weight room.  His quickness from his LSU days is back.

There were two injuries: Anthony Cook hurt his right knee, it was thought
to be a sprain, but will be examined more closely today.  Second round
draft pick Robert Werdann left the game in the 2nd quarter with lower back
spasms.

Overall, the Nuggets are very young and thought they'll be better than
last year, it won't be by much (they won 24 games last year).  With Gene
Littles helping out Issel, the coaching will be at least normal this year,
if not motivating.  The nucleus of the team, while young, has talent, and
has a chance to be good in time.  Most of the players (excepting Mutombo,
Williams, Liberty (to some degree) and Hastings) are relatively untested 
so it's difficult to say or predict things (other than it's another lottery
year).  But cautious optimism is evident.  The fans will be coming back!

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From: u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei)
Subject: Stuff
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:03:18 GMT

In article <minor.718469773@coal8> minor@rtsg.mot.com (Kevin Minor) writes:
>max@ocf.berkeley.edu (Fude Max Chuang) writes:
>
>|>Just to clarify, blood transfer is one of the easiest means of catching
>|>the virus.  Only 1-2 mL of blood is needed for risk to occur.
>
>And really that isn't that easy to do if you give in a little thought.
>Again, especially considering most organized sports' rules on addressing
>open wounds immediately.

Just to further clarify...1-2 ml of blood transfused.  If you get cut, air
kills HIV+.  For all of you people who keep saying that it will be easy to
catch the virus from Magic, think again.  What are the main ways of catching
HIV+?  IV drug use, totally away from air.  Sex, again a type of contact
that is totally away from air.  Ok, maybe there are incidents that do happen
that aren't among these major causes, but whatever they are, they haven't
been really found.  There are a lot of people who are HIV+ out there, and
plenty of them don't even know it.  You aren't going to get the AIDS virus
without doing one of the above with an infected individual...or get into
some kind of accident with them where you bathe in each other's blood...
From: rjs@citi.umich.edu (Robert J. Skrobola)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: More trivia...
Date: 15 Oct 1992 19:24:58 GMT
Organization: Center for Information Technology Intergration, University of Michigan
Distribution: world
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In article <Bvz7p0.4zA@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> 	Well, we've been talking about Dana Barros and his 3-pt percentage
|> 	last year -- and about Trent Tucker's career 3-pt percentage --
|> 	but the question I put to U is -- who in NBA history has the WORST
|> 	3-pt percentage (min 100 attempts).  Take your guess and I'll reveal
|> 	the answer...
|> 
|> 	Jazzy J
|> -- 

Barkley or D. Walker...So, so, what's the answer already??!!?? :)
		Rob
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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: KBattle was: Celtics training
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:21:51 GMT

exby@pogo.Colorado.EDU (|J| Exby) writes:
>alas I think KBattles most productive games were as a Nugget
>here in Denver.  absolute bliss seeing him and Doc Liberty together
>again in the nba awhile ago.  Battle played in-your-face-defense
>his first game, at McNichols vs. utah, confused the jazz and winded
>up making a steal in the last 15secs of the game, then SLAMDUNK to
>ice the game for a win!  I went nutso - in fact it had little shade of
>the illini / ga tech game in champaign.. 1985 season.
					  ^^^^

	I think you're thinking of the 1988-89 season, where they played
	Ga Tech in a double-overtime game (this was the year that the
	Illini went to the Final 4).  In 1985, Battle was a freshman at
	Northern Illinois.  He transferred to U of I after the '85-'86 
	season, sat out 1 year, and then played his 1st year for the Illini
	in '87-'88.

	Jazzy J

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From: alan@.wrc.unr.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Another Ex-Rebel to San Antonio
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:03:20 GMT
Reply-To: alan@sierra.wrc.unr.edu ()
Organization: Desert Research Institute, University of Nevada



Read in this morning's paper where ex-UNLV point guard, Mark Wade,
has signed a contract with the Spurs. No details regarding the
conditions, but I'm assuming he'll have to make the team? (this
opposed to a "no-cut" deal, where the player is basically guaranteed
of making the roster).

So what does the current San Antonio training camp roster look like,
and how many ex-UNLV players are on it? I know Sid Green is there,
and I seem to recall reading that both Anderson Hunt and Gerald
Paddio were being given tryouts also. 

Oh yeah; I was also interested to read where earstwhile Nevada (Reno)
player, David Wood was traded from Houston to the Spurs. I thought
of David when I was reading Gidi's post about hard work and 
perseverance (with regard to someone's Andrew Gaze/Chris Mullin
comparison). Wood really personifies this ethic...he went from a very
average Big Sky player, to the CBA, to Europe, to a brief stint with
the Bulls, then Europe again, then Houston, then Europe, now is
back in the NBA. Each time, he has improved some aspect of his game,
and is now making a nice six-figure salary and lunching on the
Paseo del Rio every day ;-). Way to go, Dave.

Would appreciate some news from someone with daily access to a
San Antonio newspaper.


...Al
From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Clippers
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:12:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bvtpox.238
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

jimmyb@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Jimmy Black) writes:

>In article <1992Oct06.001121.3700@microsoft.com> paulg@microsoft.com (Paul Goode) writes:
>>In article <BvG9Jy.98L@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>>> 	Besides Theus, there's Sidney Green, Anderson Hunt, and Lloyd
>>> 	Daniels (well, yeah, he never played for UNLV -- but consider him
>>> 	a Rebel!).
>>>Is Lloyd Daniels (The "Playground Legend") on the San Antonio roster?

	Yep -- Daniels sure is.  He was signed to a 2-year guaranteed
	contract that will pay him the league minimum ($140,000) this season.
	Guess Tark finally found a way to get his man.  I've heard him
	say stuff like Daniels was the best player he'd ever seen on a
	basketball court.  I guess we'll get to see this season..

	Jazzy J
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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Quest for the threepeat...
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:03:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw84pA.MnG
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

raghu@nairobi.eecs.umich.edu (Raghu Mani) writes:

>If Kukoc does sign then it's goodbye Rodney McCray - I'm sure there are 
>quite a few teams who would want to take him. Problem is - where does 
>Kukoc play? He can probably play both shooting guard and small forward
>but both those positions are taken. Point guard? - well he can probably 
>play that position but he is certainly too big to defend some of the 
>quicker points in the NBA. And I doubt he would accept coming off the 
>bench.

	Actually, I would beg to differ.  I think that if Kukoc comes to
	the Bulls, he knows who he's playing behind.  I read an interview
	with him, and he himself feels that he needs to prove himself in
	the NBA first.  He said that he would succumb to coming off of the
	bench early on in his NBA career.  Besides, how can one expect to
	start in front of either Pippen or Jordan?  No one's that stupid.
	
	As far as playing other positions, Kukoc could fill in at point
	guard -- I could see it.  He'd be no worse guarding smaller guards
	than Magic has/had.  

	Jazzy J

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From: lee@hcx1.csd.harris.com (Lee Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Miami Heat report
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:14:19 GMT
Reply-To: lee@hcx1.csd.harris.com (Lee Brown)
Organization: Harris Computer Systems Division, Fort Lauderdale, FL
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11telliott@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Zarathustra) writes:

|> Isiah Morris was traded to Detroit for John Salley. (Am I correct?)

Yes, of course you are (oops, no wonder I'd not heard about him being at
the Heat camp *blush*).

I did miss Carlos Funchess, who's also at the Heat camp.  I don't think he
has much of a chance to make the team, though.

|> Do keep us informed of any latest Heat news, because of where I live, in the
|> nation's capital, there's pratically no news of the Heat. :(

Bummer.  Well, they had their big intra-squad scrimmage last night, but I
didn't see it.  From the box score in the newspaper, I'd say Alec Kessler
will have a hard time making the team.  Ackles did not play due to injury
(I think -- or has he been traded to the Pistons, too? :-)  Sunvold apparently
is not in camp, so I guess he's retired.

Grant Long still has not signed.  He will, though.

The Heat faces Orlando tomorrow night (Friday) and the Bulls Monday.  Someone
asked if the Bulls game would be televised, and I believe that it is supposed
to be carried by TBS.  No word on whether Jordan will play -- he's supposed
to be testifying in court in North Carolina next week.  The Heat has offered
a chartered jet to bring him to the game if he needs it.

If you watch the game, watch the "bubble" players: Edwards, Askins, Ogg (who
blocked Seikaly last night), Kessler, and Morton.  Ackles, too, if he plays.

|> Todd Elliott
|> 11TELLIOTT@GALLUA (Bitnet)
|> 11TELLIOTT@GALLUA.GALLAUDET.EDU (Internet)

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From: ism1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (IAN SETH MILLER)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: trading Hakeem
Date: 13 Oct 92 23:20:43 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Oct13.144112.1@cc.curtin.edu.au>, smorshead@cc.curtin.edu.au wri
tes:
>Speculation on Hakeem,
>
>last year a lot of rumors came up about Hakeem going to the Lakers.
>This still seems viable to me, LA could give up Divac, Perkins, and another
>backcourt player (Scott?) for Olajuwon.  This may not be a fair trade anymore,
>but if you want fair how did Magic get that gigantic contract extension (I bet
>he won't play that season)?  Anyway, opinions on this speculation are most
>welcome.
>
I believe the latest trade rumor was Olajuwon for A.C. Green, Elden Campbell
and Byron Scott.  The problem was the salary cap and the Lakers couldn't fit
him in.  I would certainly go along with your trade and that could work
because Perkins has a pretty big contract as well.  However, Houston doesn't
want a highly paid, prone to injury and on the downside of his career, Sam
Perkins.  Divac's value has dropped tremendously after last season although I
think Magic's presence will help him.  Scott has definately past his prime and
doesn't have much value anymore.



>Andrew
>smorshead@cc.curtin.edu.au
>
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From: adam@research.nj.nec.com (Adam Porter)
Subject: Re: Rosters? (KNICKS)
Originator: adam@acapella
Keywords: rosters update
Reply-To: adam@research.nj.nec.com
Organization: NEC Research Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 13:02:53 GMT


In article <1992Oct8.213133.5844@unlinfo.unl.edu>, childers@cse.unl.edu (scott childers) writes:
|>     Just wondering if any one could post an updated roster of all the teams
|> (with all the major trades & rookie signings)  I've been stuck doing projects

Here's what the Knicks look like right now:

Forwards: 
Charles Smith (from Clippers in Mark Jackson deal)
Tony Campbell (from Minnesota for draft pick?)
Charles Oakley 
Anthony Mason

Centers: 
Patrick Ewing
Tim McCormick

Guards:
Rolando Blackman (from Dallas for '95 1st-round pick)
Greg Anthony
John Starks
Hubert Davis (rookie 1st round pick from North Carolina)
Bo Kimble (from Clippers)
Doc Rivers (from Cippers)

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From: cs161feu@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: And again (was Re: Rodman Trade Rumor (Here we go again!))
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:25:41 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:

(Why am I following-up a Dave Meeks article?  I must be really bored.)

>>Mills is 6'10 and weighs under 260. That's taller and lighter than either
>>Karl Malone or Charles Barkley. Plus Mills and his agent requested a weight
>>clause to keep him under 250 (he finished last season at 248).
>
>Yeah, well Manute Bol is somewhere along the 7'4" 240lbs or so, so he is
>taller and weighs less than any of them.  What's the point???

Actually, just for trivia's sake:  Bol is 7'7", 225 lbs according to TSN.

Tony

P.S.: Barkley has shown that he can take Bol in a fight.  Ergo,
weight beats height.  :-)
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From: owens@watson.ibm.com (David Owens)
Subject: Re: rec.sport.basketball.pro.*, etc
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 17:06:49 GMT
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

In article <1992Oct12.204250.3150@random.ccs.northeastern.edu>, dewey@ccs.northeastern.edu (Dwight S Flewelling) writes:
|> An ALL CELTICS newsgroup ?  If it means I don't have to scan thru 500
|> posts a day about Magic Johnson and HIV+, I'm 100% behind you, otherwise
|> I'd have to agree that it would be a little boring without the CRY-BABY Knicks
|> fans ragging on the all mighty C's.
|> 

Actually... the fact that I used the Celtics as an example was not
important.  I was just thinking that it would be nice to have a separate
group under rec.sport.basketball.pro for EACH team.  The current group
would not change... but people would be encouraged to cross-post
articles into any of the team-specific groups that were applicable.

That way... the same level of discussion could continue in 
rec.sport.basketball.pro, but more detailed, team-specific discussion
might arrise in the new groups.  People only interested in a few teams 
would not have to wade through such a wide range of topics.

I was just wondering if others were interested...


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From: ortcm@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (thomas.mcguigan)
Subject: Orlando Magic Preseason Report
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:51:05 GMT

The Magic's Training Camp got off to a good start this year.
From the summer roster:

			Orlando Magic Roster

Player			Pos.	Ht.	Wt.	College		Yr	#
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Anderson, Nick		SG	6-6	205	Illinois	3-1	25
Bowie,Anthony		SG	6-6	190	Oklahoma	3/6-3	14
Catledge, Terry		PF	6-8	230	S.Alabama	7-4	33
Conner, Lester		PG	6-4	180	Oregon St.	9-1	7
Corchiani, Chris	PG	6-0	175	N. Carol. St.	1-1	13
Green, Litterial	PG	6-1	185	Georgia		0-1	11
Kite, Greg (?)		C	6-11	260	BYU		9-3	34
O'Neal, Shaquille	C       7-1     295     LSU             0-7/4	32
Reynolds, Jerry	 	SF	6-8	206	Louisiana St.	7-3	35
Roberts, Stanley	C	7-0	285	LSU		1-5	53
Royal, Donald		SF      6-8	---	Notre Dame	1-1	5
Scott, Dennis 		SF	6-8	229	Ga. Tech.	2-3	3
Skiles, Scott		PG	6-1	180	Mich.St.	6-3	4
Turner, Jeff		PF	6-9	240	Vanderbilt	6-3	31
Williams, Brian 	PF	6-11	242	Arizona		1-2/1	8

Head Coach: 	MGuokas -	Matt Guokas
Assistant: 	BHill -		Brian Hill

only two players missed the opening:  Brian Williams, in addition to his
fainting spells, broke his toe lifting weights.  He is expected to be ready
to practice in 10 days.  Jerry Reynolds is still recovering from neck spasms
associated with the surgery he underwent this past spring.  No reporting
date for Reynolds was given.  The good news is that Dennis Scott has been
working through all practice sessions.  While I don't think that he'll be
in top shape at the beginning of the season, his ability to play through the
two-a-days is very encouraging.

In addition to the above roster, the Magic have also signed:

Byron Irvin	G	6-5
Daimon Sweet	G	6-5
Howard Wright	F	6-9
Mark McNamara	C	6-11
Ken Bannister	F	6-9

for the preseason.

Early reports from the first weekend are positive.  In addition to
Dennis Scott's showing, both O'Neal and Nick Anderson are playing very well.
In particular, Anderson's outside shot seems to have improved over the
summer.

The two big questions to be answered during camp:

1. Who survives the the cut at Point Guard?  One of Conner, Corchiani, or
Green won't make the final twelve.  Green has been pushing Corchiani hard.
If they both show well, it not inconceivable that Conner would be cut,
quaranteed contract notwithstanding.   The first preseason game against
Miami on Friday, Oct. 16, should provide the first real indication of how
the struggle is going.

2. Who is going to be available in the front court?  I expect that either
Reynolds or Williams will begin the season on the DL.  However, it is
possible that both could be there.  If that happens the Magic will need to go
shopping for some help.  Any likely candidates?

More details as they happen.  I'll post a summary of the Heat-Magic game
on Friday.

Tom@Orlando