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From: harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Entertainment
Date: 9 Nov 92 00:58:54 GMT
	<axolotl.720675751@syzygy> <1992Nov2.055056.2607@u.washington.edu>
	<2344@usna.NAVY.MIL> <1992Nov4.051505.1736@omrongw.wg.omron.co.jp>
Organization: Yokogawa Electric Corporation, Tokyo, Japan
In-reply-to: andy@nff.ncl.Omron.Co.Jp's message of 4 Nov 92 05:15:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.051505.1736@omrongw.wg.omron.co.jp>
   andy@nff.ncl.Omron.Co.Jp (Andy Krantz) writes:

 =}In article <2344@usna.NAVY.MIL>, wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.MIL (Wm. Douglas Withers -- math  FACULTY <wdw@sma.usna.navy.mil>) writes:
 =}> [deletions]
 =}> What kind of meal can you get in Japan for 100 yen?
 =} 
 =}Too good to resist. MacDonald's!
 =}
 =}They have a special on right now: a plain hamburger for 100 Yen.

   But that special was only for what, 2 months?  The normal price is
210yen ($1.60)...

   There is a hamburger shop behind the Topos store in Machida.  The
burgers are much smaller than MacDonald's (about 25% smaller).  The
price is 100 yen.

   There is a 200yen morning set that is a cup of coffee and piece of
toast.  I used to get a plain biscuit at Hardees (39 cents?) and a 5
cent cup of coffee at the gas station next door in the US though...
[BTW: the coffee was only worth 5 cents :) ]
Xref: sparky soc.culture.japan:10251 talk.politics.guns:23668
From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: A Japanese student killed in Lousiana
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:29:27 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.japan
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <Bx84DM.ILM@ncifcrf.gov>, masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:

>      Do you have any idea how to encourage people to take the training
> without legislation?

Encourage is the right word here.  Legislation implies force.  It is
always harder to encourage someone to do something than to force him.
Encouragement, though, requires incentives, while force just requires
disincentives.  And the government simply has no incentives to offer.
Who could offer such incentives?  The industry, perhaps, and gun clubs.
My club, for example, won't allow you to use the ranges without passing
both a written and a practical test.

>      I think that money could be a good incentive especially in the US.

I think you're right.

> If the pro-gun lobbyists and pressure groups find that they could make a 
> good business out of the firearm education, the government will follow,
> won't it?

No, absolutely not.  The government is neither in the business of making
a profit, nor of providing incentives to common citizens for "preferred
behavior."  Not only is it not their business to do so, but whenever
they try it anyway, they fail at it regardless.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,talk.politics.guns
From: pngai@adobe.com (Phil Ngai)
Subject: Re: Japanese exchange student killed in Louisiana...
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:03:19 GMT

In article <1dnqhfINN7r5@CATHY.NA.CS.YALE.EDU> yarvin@cs.yale.edu (Norman Yarvin) writes:
>Anyway, you do not seem to understand what the crime of manslaughter, as
>distinct from murder, is.  First-degree murder is premeditated.
>Second-degree murder is something done in the passion of the moment.
>Manslaughter is something done accidentally.  Thus if the police charge
>Peairs with manslaughter, this is in accordance with the facts as we know
>them.

Let's see if I can get this right.

First-degree murder is planned and intentional.
Second-degree is unplanned but intentional.

Voluntary manslaughter is unintentional but the result of deliberately
taking actions which are risky. Driving on bald tires and having
an accident might be an example.

Involuntary manslaughter is unintentional and not something which
a reasonable person could have avoided. A possible example is
a driver getting a blowout from an object on the road he could
not have seen and losing control and running over someone.

-- 
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From: hamazaki@etl.go.jp (Youichi Hamazaki)
Subject: Re: BATTLE FOR NICHIREN STATE RAGES OUT OF CONTROL IN HYOGO
Organization: Electrotechnical Lab.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 05:25:59 GMT


In article <1dn3bcINNbuu@agate.berkeley.edu> robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:
>For 14 years, Nichiren militants have fought for the creation of Jodostan, a
>separate Nichiren nation in the southwest state of Hyogo.  But the ideals
>underpinning their struggle have ben tramples in an orgy of violence that
>has made terrorist Hyogo's largewst industry and the M-16 its status symbol.
 ...... most of nonsense story is deleted ........

What was this article?  American Joke????
NONSENSE!!!! and not apropreate for s.c.j. newsgroup

--- Yoichi
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From: guohsu@mercury.cs.uregina.ca (Allen Guo-Ching Hsu)
Subject: Re: Apology from the Emperor
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 01:33:30 GMT
Distribution: world 
Organization: University of Regina, SK, Canada

In article <D05kTB1w165w@student.business.uwo.ca> k3amichi@student.business.uwo.ca (Kentaro Nakamichi) writes:
>I got a October 23 copy of the Asahi Shimbun and found this interesting 
>quote that deserved mention.  It's from the Secretary General of China:
>        China should forget the past and look to the future;
                      ^^^^^^
     That's what a idiot is !
     He may forget his own past, how could we forget the country's history ? 
     And why should we ?  We must remember the history, then look to
     the future.

>        Japan should seriously re-examine its past and consider 
>        how it can contribute towards world peace.
>
>k3amichi@student.business.uwo.ca (Kentaro Nakamichi)

allen
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From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: internment camps
Date: 11 Nov 1992 04:54:51 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

Japanese Americans were interned for their own protection from lynchings.
The proof lies in the fact that in Hawaii, where the climate was more tolerant,
Japanese Americans were left in normal standing.  Asian American authors
like to convey a message that they encountered unique prejudices, but the
fact is that during WW I & II, Italian- and German-Americans were kept
under surveillance or otherwise jailed as well, upon suspicion of contributing
to the enemy.  This Asian American literature is the dying throes of a
small demographic group, no more than a million, headed for extinction as
each generation passes.  So I do not consider it worthy of literary clasification.
By following the way Asian American authors think, Serbs and Croats would
be justfied to kill each other until not a single one of them was left.

Xref: sparky soc.culture.japan:10246 talk.politics.guns:23663
From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: A Japanese student killed in Lousiana
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:05:07 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.japan
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <Bx7xpM.FJr@ncifcrf.gov>, masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:

> >I'm sure the criminals would laugh in your face if you try to tell
> >them when not to shoot.
> 
>    Are you seriously thinking that a criminal will take the lesson bringing
> his illegal weapon?

No.  So your courses MIGHT address one of the 1,400 accidental shootings that
occur in a year, while they would completely fail to address the 500,000
purposeful shootings that occur in a year.  

Where do you think the government should spend its time and money?  On the
small problem, or on the big one?

>    He he he he... A kind fellow sent me an e-mail to show how I, as a 
> non-US citizen, can own a handgun legally in the US. I'm looking forward to
> some stranger visiting my house. Why don't you drop by, Phil? My training
> could be as adequate as Mr. Peairs'. Oh well, maybe not. I need more
> practice of saying, "freeze!" in order for it not to sound like "fleas!"

If you have a gun pointed at me, I will stand still even if you say "Kudasai."
-- 

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Xref: sparky soc.culture.japan:10390 talk.politics.guns:23811
From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Japanese exchange student killed in Louisiana...
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:29:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: ncifcrf.BxGzsH.BxL
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center

In article <1dmd91INNbdt@transfer.stratus.com> cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) writes:
>In article <BxE08w.JyJ@ncifcrf.gov>, masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:

>> >Citizens able to defend themselves. Especially women and the elderly
>> >who are often the victims of rape, assault, and robbery precisely
>> >because the criminals think they can not defend themselves.

>>    Do you propose a policy to distribute a free handgun to all the women and
>> elderly who want to have one?

>In your ideal world, is the government required to give you, free, everything 
>it doesn't prohibit?

   If something has more benefit than the cost for offering it for free,
the government may well consider or people may well try to make their government
consider it.

   If it is a valid argument that the larger number of weapons in the hands 
of innocent citizens lead to the smaller number of crimes, distributing as
many handguns as possible would not be a bad idea.

   Even in your real world, the US government offers free polio vaccination
because it's beneficial, but not because it is not prohibited.

Michiaki Masuda
From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: call for a new newsgroup
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:25:36 GMT
	<1dnpruINNfg3@agate.berkeley.edu>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Turn the station than Mark.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.japan:10400 talk.politics.guns:23825
From: tom@dingo.imagen.com (tom lowdermilk)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: call for a new newsgroup
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:44:12 GMT
Reply-To: tom@dingo.imagen.com (tom lowdermilk)
Organization: imagen

In article <1dnpruINNfg3@agate.berkeley.edu>, robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:
|> From: Mark Crispin <mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM>
|> Subject: call for a new newsgroup
|> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
|> Organization: University of Washington
|> Mime-Version: 1.0
|> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 06:37:46 GMT
|> Lines: 20
|> 
|> The signal/noise on this newsgroup has deteriorated to the point where it has
|> become useless.  Between the ranting about guns and the ranting of Rikiya
|> Asano, this newsgroup has become impossible to read even with advanced
|> newsreading tools that help you find the 2 messages out of 156 that are worth
|> reading.
|> 
|> ----
|> 
|> It's called hyperinflation, buddy.  How's that going to stop the fundamental
|> problem of caustic netters who can post anywhere they please?  The demand
|> for a japan group will not make dissolving this newsgroup possible.
|> 

"hyperinflation" as in a surfeit of hot air?! In the few months I've read
this newsgroup, it's digressed from discussions of historical, cultural and
social issues to vapid Donahue-Oprah shouting matches. I think it's time
to separate the adults from the children; it's really irritating to wade
through all these STUPID postings to find any intelligent discussion.


   tjl

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From: yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii)
Subject: Re: BATTLE FOR NICHIREN STATE RAGES OUT OF CONTROL IN HYOGO
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:33:08 GMT

>> What was this article?  American Joke????
>> NONSENSE!!!! and not apropreate for s.c.j. newsgroup

tatuya@isea.is.titech.ac.jp (9044430 YAMAMOTO Tatuya) writes:
>His (Henry Robertson's) posts are totally nonsence.
>Please ignore.

I don't mind Mr. Roberston posting his fiction, but I suggest adding
explicit warning that it is just that, a fiction.  Who was it ... 
Orson Welles, who inadvertantly scared the pants off many people with
his space alien invasion radio broadcast?  

# BTW, Hank, when is your book coming out? :-)
From: tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Shooting of exchange student
Date: 5 Nov 92 08:07:54 GMT
Organization: clearer than blir

In article <437@ub-tky.UBSPD.CO.JP> tobac@ub-tky.UBSPD.CO.JP (Bach Frederic) writes:
>[Large excerpts from a Kyodo News brief]
>
> A grand jury in the Louisiana town of Baton-Rouge decided on Wednesday
> to indict Rodney Peairs on a charge of inflicting bodily injury
> resulting in death for the shooting of Japanese exchange student
> Yoshihiro Hattori on Oct. 17.

Ahhh, the problems of translating from English to Japanese and then
back into English to deliver news... For those who want the normal
English for what this means: Peairs was indicted on charges of
*manslaughter* not on charges of "inflicting bodily injury resulting
in death"--I don't even think there is such a charge anywhere in the
US. Kyodo should really work on its ability to deliver English news.

Note that manslaughter is a lesser charge than murder, but for those
who really want his blood you'll be happy to know he's in jail right
now until bail is set.

-- Tad Perry   Internet:    tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu
               CompuServe:  70402,3020
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From: vetrima@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: kendo
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:12:43 GMT
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

I do not get rec martial arts where I am could someone send me E-mail any 
info on kendo from it.
From: t_yamasi@hoffman.cc.sophia.ac.jp (Yamashiki Tsuyoshi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: new newsgroup discussion
Date: 12 Nov 92 02:11:33 GMT
Organization: Computer Center, Sophia Univ., Tokyo, Japan

In article <7443@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:
>I think everybody should put Asano in their kill-file and do nothing. 

I've done it a few month ago...It would be better if no one
responds to him and someday he realizes he's not needed.
Henry Robertson comes in second, of course.

There's another guy whom I'm thinking whether I should do
the same -- the guy who posts 10 or so worthless posts
everyday with a long and meaningless sig.  You know who
you are.

Well!  Enough for a personal flame.  Hope it'll get back
soon.

Oh yes, I'm against splitting the newsgroup.  We could
drive away inappropriate threads by continuously complaining,
couldn't we?
From: ee152fdm@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (Maiko Covington)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: new newsgroup discussion
Date: 11 Nov 92 05:34:55 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Though I'm not sure if I agree with all of the categories posted
here, I think that splitting the group is the best idea so far.
Maybe a "life in Japan" group (like the fj one I suppose, I can't
get that one so I'm not sure) would be nice too.
		Maiko

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: Japanese exchange student killed in Louisiana...
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:17:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.111936.5164@nntp.csl.sony.co.jp> kono@csl.sony.co.jp writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.011326.4895@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> , 
>	fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary) writes 
>>That difference was the entire point: Were everyone disarmed,
>>the criminal would have an advantage. 
>
>One hundered years ago, Japanese houses have no locks. Everyone first
>entered a house silently , then said "Gomennasai." A man commit a crime
>not because he is strong but he is weaker than others. What you are
>saying is that you need a gun because you are weaker than others.
>Were everyone armed, every criminal would have a gun. Which is more
>dangerous?

One hundred years ago, very few American homes had locks, or the need for
them. There are still parts of this country where people don't lock their
doors at night, or lock their cars. However, non-robberies are non-events,
so you won't hear much, if anything, about them. I'm sure the same is 
true of Japan.

Mike
-- 
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From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Japanese exchange student killed in Louisiana...
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:20:01 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: rocket.sw.stratus.com

In article <SMITTIE.92Nov9190630@beach.csulb.edu>, smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie) writes:

> Had Hattori's killer been thru such a class as this Hattori would still be
> alive. 

Yes, but then we would not be arguing about it.  In fact, we would be
blissfully unaware of a "problem" while dozens or scores of "Hattori-killers"
failed to kill their own personal Hattori's.  Sooner or later, we would
run out of luck, and one nervous, nearsighted, or racist homeowner would 
shoot his Hattori.  

Then we could all get onto Internet in total ignorance and indignation,
and pontificate about the obviously unconscionable extent of the 
"uneducated gun owner problem" here in America.
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From: yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Yoshi Hattori
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:03:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov6.160358.3922
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


>>7. Those of you in Japan could at least inform your acquaintances there that
>>   the shooter was remorseful. And that the lack of arrest does not mean that
>>   he will not be indicted.

smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie) writes:
>I am sure that Hattori's parents find great relief in the fact that the 
>shooter says he's sorry.

No I don't think so.  His parents (at least his father) does not seem to
fault Mr. Peairs as much as the system itself (ie. law allowing handguns
to untrained civilian).

> I am also sure that all of my Japanese friends will feel much safer 
> coming to America knowing that the shooter, who took the life of another
> human being MIGHT be indicted.

No I don't think so.  Putting a person in prison doesn't do much good
if you get shot first.

Sorry to be so negative, but I'm feeling gloomy.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,talk.politics.guns
From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: A Japanese student killed in Lousiana
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 06:26:48 GMT

masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:

>   However, if your neighbors start to practice shooting in their
>back yard and might miss the target and shoot into your back yard, wouldn't
>you want them to stop it? Wouldn't you think that they should go to a
>shooting range to take the education first?

	No.  I think it's a problem between them and I, period.  It is not
a problem that requires pre-emptive disarming of my neighbors, nor does it
need to involve the police or government.  In addition, it is entirely
likely that we will reach a compromise that does not inconvenience us.

>   As I understand it, we cannot carry a weapon in the commercial airflight.
>Despite the security system, it IS possible to have a hijacker in our
>flight. We should have a right to be prepared to protect ourselves from
>a possible hijacker, but they don't allow us to do it.
>I wonder what their rationale to enforce this is.

	De-pressurization at 30,000 feet due to accidental discharge being
greater than the chances of a hijacker sneaking aboard?

>   I don't think I ever said or tried to say that the shooter is guilty.
>I was just trying to protect the deceased from those who might or did blame
>him making, "It is reasonable for him to have been killed if he made a 
>mistake without knowing the American way"-type of comments.

	I don't think the victim needs protection.  What matters now is
whether the shooter was justified or not.  What the victim did or did
not think is rendered moot by his intimely demise.

< Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu viking@iastate.edu >
<  ISU only censors what I read, not what I say.  Don't blame them.  >
<  "This isn't an answer, it's a pagan dance around a midnight fire  >
<   written in intellectual runes." -- Rich Young                    >
From: blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: the mystery of Rikiya Asano
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:57:55 GMT
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.

In article <MS-C.721590214.1103527590.mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM>, 
mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM (Mark Crispin) writes:
=> Someone else complained to the postmaster at CMU about the garbage
=> Rikiya Asano has been puking on soc.culture.japan, and the CMU
=> postmaster investigated.  It just so happens that the the CMU
=> postmaster is a colleague of mine, working on an R&D project with me,
=> and he saw my call for a new newsgroup.
=> 
=> I learned from him some interesting information....

Thanks Mark. I suppose that if Asano-Kun turned out not to be
Japanese it wouldn't surprise me either. But I wonder if a
Federal investigation is worth the trouble. As I killed him
awhile back, I don't know about him except through reference
by others. His postings going into a void of apathy is the 
best form of enlightenment for him.

Having him arrested, tried and executed only nails him
more firmly to the cross he has built for himself. If
I were you, I might not even provide the extra nails.

- Bill Lambert

<PS - My KILL file has only one entry.>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,talk.politics.guns
From: smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie)
Subject: Re: Changing names in Nippon.
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
	<1dt287INNivs@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <1dt4nsINNibf@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:45:35 GMT

>So harsh, woodcock!  Come on, people, Asano's mom died, least you could give
>him practical advice at the least.

No

smittie
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