From: I18BC@CUNYVM.BITNET (Spartacus At CunyVM)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.cw-email
Subject: Re: Needed: How to send Email to MCI from Internet?
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:36:58 GMT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

In article <92273.202539I18BC@CUNYVM.BITNET>, Spartacus At Cuny
<I18BC@CUNYVM.BITNET> says:
>
>Hi folks,
>
>   Could someone tell me how to Email someone on MCI-Mail from the
>internet? (Please Email me with the answer) Thanks a bunch!

Several people have reply to my original post above and
I'd appreciate your help...Several other people have also
asked me to forward my replies :-).  So I will post a file
I found in wuarchive which is basically a "How to Manual"
on Emailing to several networks.  To MCIMail, CompuServe
Genie and the other way around....I'm sure the readers of this
group will find the file below very interesting.
Enjoy.



TELECOM Digest     Sat, 20 Oct 90 19:53:00 CDT    Special: Network Guide

Inside This Issue:                         Moderator: Patrick A. Townson

    Introduction [TELECOM Moderator]
    Network Guide [John J. Chew, via Syd Weinstein]
    Email Addresses: Public? Private? Somewhere in Between? [M. Schoffstall]
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From: TELECOM Moderator <telecom@eecs.nwu.edu>
Subject: Introduction to Network Guide
Date: 20 Oct 1990


This issue of the Digest is devoted to a theme near and dear to my
heart: universal, and easy to use email. For a long time now, I have
campaigned for an expansion of the email universe. Furthermore, I
believe email should be, and will eventually be as easy to use and
commonplace as a telephone call.

Internetwork email is becoming easier and easier to use, but there are
still those systems which seem to relish making it as hard as possible
to connect with another network. And there are those networks, that
for whatever reason seem to feel a policy of exclusion is in their
best interest -- a policy which prevents their subscribers from
writing to other networks, and keeps other networks from reaching
them.  Thank goodness both MCI Mail and AT&T Mail wised up early on to
the fallacy behind this kind of exclusivity: there is no advantage in
limiting the number of people who can reach you or be reached by
yourself.

I'll repeat what I have asked for many times in the past:
Interconnectivity between networks and sites where the routing is
totally transparent to users. I'd like to see the time when something
like the Network Guide -- valuable as it is -- is no longer required.
A user would enter an address and be done with it, and the standards
would be the same from one network to another; from one site to
another.

Likewise, the "White Pages" mentioned in the second message of this
special issue is an idea whose time is overdue. As David Tamkin points
out in a message which will appear in a future issue of the Digest,
unlike a telephone call, where a call (wanted or unwanted) ties up the
use of the service for the subscriber, email does not deprive the
subscriber of the right to receive and send other email. Email can be
a very powerful force in our society. 'The Power of the Pen' should
not be overlooked in this medium as a way to raise issues, ask
questions, advise others and educate ourselves. If you decide to try
using the White Pages, you might be surprised at the number of people
you can reach through email.

Enjoy this issue of the Digest!


Patrick Townson

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  From: Syd Weinstein <syd@dsi.com>
  Subject: Network Guide
  Reply-To: syd@dsi.com
  Organization: Datacomp Systems, Inc.  Huntingdon Valley, PA
  Date: Fri, 19 Oct 90 14:54:30 GMT


claris!netcom!mcmahan@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Dave Mc Mahan) writes:

>I was asked an interesting question the other day.  Someone I work
>with wanted to e-mail another party, but that party only had BIX and
>CompuServe.
>If you know of another network that can send e-mail, please let me
>know.

There is a generic file posted every so often by John J. Chew
<poslfit@gpu.UTCS.UToronto.CA> in comp.mail.misc and
news.newusers.questions called the Inter-Network Mail Guide.

Here is a recent issue for your information:

  Inter-Network Mail Guide - Copyright 1990 by John J. Chew
     $Header: netmail, v1.12 90/07/06 20:38:28 John Exp$

# For those of you who were wondering what happened to the June 1990 issue,
# there wasn't one, because of a lack of important changes to the data,
# and because I've been busy with other things.  Even worse (:-), there
# will not be an August 1990 issue as I will be temporarily between net
# addresses as I take a nice long holiday between jobs on different
# continents.  If you have information to add or requests for subscriptions,
# send them as usual to me at <poslfit@gpu.UTCS.UToronto.CA> and they should
# catch up to me with some delay wherever I end up.  I'm off to enjoy
# my summer now, bye!  -- John
#
# COPYRIGHT NOTICE
#
# This document is Copyright 1990 by John J. Chew.  All rights reserved.
# Permission for non-commercial distribution is hereby granted, provided
# that this file is distributed intact, including this copyright notice
# and the version information above.  Permission for commercial distribution
# can be obtained by contacting the author as described below.
#
# INTRODUCTION
#
# This file documents methods of sending mail from one network to another.
# It represents the aggregate knowledge of the readers of comp.mail.misc
# and many contributors elsewhere.  If you know of any corrections or
# additions to this file, please read the file format documentation below
# and then mail to me: John J. Chew <poslfit@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca>.  If
# you do not have access to electronic mail (which makes me wonder about
# the nature of your interest in the subject, but there does seem to be
# a small such population out there) you can call me during the month of
# July at +1 416 979 7166 between 11:00 and 24:00 EDT (UTC-4h) and most
# likely talk to my answering machine (:-).
#
# DISTRIBUTION
#
# (news) This list is posted monthly to Usenet newsgroups comp.mail.misc and
#   news.newusers.questions.
# (mail) I maintain a growing list of subscribers who receive each monthly
#   issue by electronic mail, and recommend this to anyone planning to
#   redistribute the list on a regular basis.
# (FTP) Internet users can fetch this guide by anonymous FTP as ~ftp/pub/docs/
#   internetwork-mail-guide on Ra.MsState.Edu (130.18.80.10 or 130.18.96.37)
#   [Courtesy of Frank W. Peters]
# (Listserv) Bitnet users can fetch this guide from the Listserv at UNMVM.
#   Send mail to LISTSERV@UNMVM with blank subject and body consisting of
#   the line "GET NETWORK GUIDE".  [Courtesy of Art St. George]
#
# HOW TO USE THIS GUIDE
#
# Each entry in this file describes how to get from one network to another.
# To keep this file at a reasonable size, methods that can be generated by
# transitivity (A->B and B->C gives A->B->C) are omitted.  Entries are sorted
# first by source network and then by destination network.  This is what a
# typical entry looks like:
#
#   #F mynet
#   #T yournet
#   #R youraddress
#   #C contact address if any
#   #I send to "youraddress@thegateway"
#
# For parsing purposes, entries are separated by at least one blank line,
# and each line of an entry begins with a `#' followed by a letter.  Lines
# beginning with `# ' are comments and need not be parsed.  Lines which do
# not start with a `#' at all should be ignored as they are probably mail
# or news headers.
#
# #F (from) and #T (to) lines specify source and destination networks.
# If you're sending me information about a new network, please give me
# a brief description of the network so that I can add it to the list
# below.  The abbreviated network names used in #F and #T lines should
# consist only of the characters a-z, 0-9 and `-' unless someone can
# make a very convincing case for their favourite pi character.
#
# These are the currently known networks with abbreviated names:
#
#   applelink     AppleLink (Apple Computer, Inc.'s in-house network)
#   bitnet        international academic network
#   bix           Byte Information eXchange: Byte magazine's commercial BBS
#   bmug          Berkeley Macintosh Users Group
#   compuserve    commercial time-sharing service
#   connect       Connect Professional Information Network (commercial)
#   easynet       Easynet (DEC's in-house mail system)
#   envoy         Envoy-100 (Canadian commercial mail service)
#   fax           Facsimile document transmission
#   fidonet       PC-based BBS network
#   geonet        GeoNet Mailbox Systems (commercial)
#   internet      the Internet
#   mci           MCI's commercial electronic mail service
#   mfenet        Magnetic Fusion Energy Network
#   nasamail      NASA internal electronic mail
#   peacenet      non-profit mail service
#   sinet         Schlumberger Information NETwork
#   span          Space Physics Analysis Network (includes HEPnet)
#   sprintmail    Sprint's commercial mail service (formerly Telemail)
#   thenet        Texas Higher Education Network
#
# #R (recipient) gives an example of an address on the destination network,
# to make it clear in subsequent lines what text requires subsitution.
#
# #C (contact) gives an address for inquiries concerning the gateway,
# expressed as an address reachable from the source (#F) network.
# Presumably, if you can't get the gateway to work at all, then knowing
# an unreachable address on another network will not be of great help.
#
# #I (instructions) lines, of which there may be several, give verbal
# instructions to a user of the source network to let them send mail
# to a user on the destination network.  Text that needs to be typed
# will appear in double quotes, with C-style escapes if necessary.

#F applelink
#T internet
#R user@domain
#I send to "user@domain@internet#"
#I   domain can be be of the form "site.bitnet", address must be <35 characters

#F bitnet
#T internet
#R user@domain
#I Methods for sending mail from Bitnet to the Internet vary depending on
#I what mail software is running at the Bitnet site in question.  In the
#I best case, users should simply be able to send mail to "user@domain".
#I If this doesn't work, try "user%domain@gateway" where "gateway" is a
#I regional Bitnet-Internet gateway site.  Finally, if neither of these
#I works, you may have to try hand-coding an SMTP envelope for your mail.
#I If you have questions concerning this rather terse note, please try
#I contacting your local postmaster or system administrator first before
#I you send me mail -- John Chew <poslfit@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca>

#F compuserve
#T fax
#R +1 415 555 1212
#I send to "FAX 14155551212" (only to U.S.A.)

#F compuserve
#T internet
#R user@domain
#I send to ">INTERNET:user@domain"

#F compuserve
#T mci
#R 123-4567
#I send to ">MCIMAIL:123-4567"

#F connect
#T internet
#R user@domain
#I send to CONNECT id "DASNET"
#I first line of message: "\"user@domain\"@DASNET"

#F easynet
#T bitnet
#R user@site
#C DECWRL::ADMIN
#I from VMS use NMAIL to send to "nm%DECWRL::\"user@site.bitnet\""
#I from Ultrix
#I   send to "user@site.bitnet" or if that fails
#I     (via IP) send to "\"user%site.bitnet\"@decwrl.dec.com"
#I     (via DECNET) send to "DECWRL::\"user@site.bitnet\""

#F easynet
#T fidonet
#R john smith at 1:2/3.4
#C DECWRL::ADMIN
#I from VMS use NMAIL to send to
#I   "nm%DECWRL::\"john.smith@p4.f3.n2.z1.fidonet.org\""
#I from Ultrix
#I   send to "john.smith@p4.f3.n2.z1.fidonet.org" or if that fails
#I     (via IP) send to "\"john.smith%p4.f3.n2.z1.fidonet.org\"@decwrl.dec.com"
#I     (via DECNET) send to "DECWRL::\"john.smith@p4.f3.n2.z1.fidonet.org\""

#F easynet
#T internet
#R user@domain
#C DECWRL::ADMIN
#I from VMS use NMAIL to send to "nm%DECWRL::\"user@domain\""
#I from Ultrix
#I   send to "user@domain" or if that fails
#I     (via IP) send to "\"user%domain\"@decwrl.dec.com"
#I     (via DECNET) send to "DECWRL::\"user@domain\""

#F envoy
#T internet
#R user@domain
#C ICS.TEST or ICS.BOARD
#I send to "[RFC-822=\"user(a)domain\"]INTERNET/TELEMAIL/US
#I for special characters, use @=(a), !=(b), _=(u), any=(three octal digits)

#F fidonet
#T internet
#R user@domain
#I send to "uucp" at nearest gateway site
#I first line of message: "To: user@domain"

#F geonet
#T internet
#R user@domain
#I send to "DASNET"
#I subject line: "user@domain!subject"

#F internet
#T applelink
#R user
#I send to "user@applelink.apple.com"

#F internet
#T bitnet
#R user@site
#I send to "user%site.bitnet@gateway" where "gateway" is a gateway host that
#I   is on both the internet and bitnet.  Some examples of gateways are:
#I   cunyvm.cuny.edu mitvma.mit.edu.  Check first to see what local policies
#I   are concerning inter-network forwarding.

#F internet
#T bix
#R user
#I send to "user@dcibix.das.net"

#F internet
#T bmug
#R John Smith
#I send to "John.Smith@bmug.fidonet.org"

#F internet
#T compuserve
#R 71234,567
#I send to "71234.567@compuserve.com"
#I   note: Compuserve account IDs are pairs of octal numbers.  Ordinary
#I     consumer CIS user IDs begin with a `7' as shown.

#F internet
#T connect
#R NAME
#I send to "NAME@dcjcon.das.net"

#F internet
#T easynet
#R HOST::USER
#C admin@decwrl.dec.com
#I send to "user@host.enet.dec.com" or "user%host.enet@decwrl.dec.com"

#F internet
#T easynet
#R John Smith @ABC
#C admin@decwrl.dec.com
#I send to "John.Smith@ABC.MTS.DEC.COM"
#I (This syntax is for All-In-1 users.)

#F internet
#T envoy
#R John Smith (ID=userid)
#C /C=CA/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/ID=ICS.TEST/S=TEST_GROUP/@nasamail.nasa.gov
#C   for second method only
#I send to "uunet.uu.net!att!attmail!mhs!envoy!userid"
#I   or to "/C=CA/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/DD.ID=userid/PN=John_Smith/@Sprint.COM"

#F internet
#T fidonet
#R john smith at 1:2/3.4
#I send to "john.smith@p4.f3.n2.z1.fidonet.org"

#F internet
#T geonet
#R user at host
#I send to "user:host@map.das.net"
#I American host is geo4, European host is geo1.

#F internet
#T mci
#R John Smith (123-4567)
#I send to "1234567@mcimail.com"
#I or send to "JSMITH@mcimail.com" if "JSMITH" is unique
#I or send to "John_Smith@mcimail.com" if "John Smith" is unique - note the
#I    underscore!
#I or send to "John_Smith/1234567@mcimail.com" if "John Smith" is NOT unique

#F internet
#T mfenet
#R user@mfenode
#I send to "user%mfenode.mfenet@nmfecc.arpa"

#F internet
#T nasamail
#R user
#C <postmaster@ames.arc.nasa.gov>
#I send to "user@nasamail.nasa.gov"

#F internet
#T peacenet
#R user
#C <support%cdp@arisia.xerox.com>
#I send to "user%cdp@arisia.xerox.com"

#F internet
#T sinet
#R node::user or node1::node::user
#I send to "user@node.SINet.SLB.COM" or "user%node@node1.SINet.SLB.COM"

#F internet
#T span
#R user@host
#C <NETMGR@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov>
#I send to "user@host.span.NASA.gov"
#I   or to "user%host.span@ames.arc.nasa.gov"

#F internet
#T sprintmail
#R [userid "John Smith"/organization]system/country
#I send to
"/C=country/ADMD=system/O=organization/PN=John_Smith/DD.ID=userid/@Sprint.COM"

#F internet
#T thenet
#R user@host
#I send to "user%host.decnet@utadnx.cc.utexas.edu"

#F mci
#T internet
#R John Smith <user@domain>
#I at the "To:" prompt type "John Smith (EMS)"
#I at the "EMS:" prompt type "internet"
#I at the "Mbx:" prompt type "user@domain"

#F nasamail
#T internet
#R user@domain
#I at the "To:" prompt type "POSTMAN"
#I at the "Subject:" prompt enter the subject of your message
#I at the "Text:" prompt, i.e. as the first line of your message,
#I    enter "To: user@domain"

#F sinet
#T internet
#R user@domain
#I send to "M_MAILNOW::M_INTERNET::\"user@domain\""
#I      or "M_MAILNOW::M_INTERNET::domain::user"

#F span
#T internet
#R user@domain
#C NETMGR@NSSDCA
#I send to "AMES::\"user@domain\""

#F sprintmail
#T internet
#R user@domain
#I send to "[RFC-822=user(a)domain @GATEWAY]INTERNET/TELEMAIL/US"

#F thenet
#T internet
#R user@domain
#I send to UTADNX::WINS%" user@domain "

# END


Sydney S. Weinstein, CDP, CCP                   Elm Coordinator
Datacomp Systems, Inc.                          Voice: (215) 947-9900
syd@DSI.COM or dsinc!syd                        FAX:   (215) 938-0235

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  From: Martin Schoffstall <schoff@uu.psi.com>
  Subject: Re: Email Addresses: Public? Private?  Somewhere in Between?
  Reply-To: Martin Schoffstall <schoff@uu.psi.com>
  Organization: Performance Systems International, Inc.
  Date: Thu, 18 Oct 90 05:51:21 GMT


If you telnet into wp.psi.com and login as "fred" you will find some
number of organizations in the US Internet who believe that some
amount of information even beyond the email address is public.  The
organizations range from Kodak to DOE, to Columbia to Cray.

This service is an Internet wide WhitePages service of which either
Marshall Rose or I could try to retell some of the stories of this two
year old project containg 100,000's of thousands of entries, most kept
up to date on a weekly or monthly basis.  But only if there is
interest.


Marty


[Moderator's Note: Marty, thanks for passing along this valuable
address for the readers of the Digest. I hope at least a few folks
will make use of it. And yes please, share your stories. Better still,
how about a short tutorial with examples of how to use the White
Pages.  PAT]

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