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From: CL234106@ulkyvx.louisville.edu (Y. CAO)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
Subject: Re: His Shorts!
Date: 9 Apr 92 11:06:05 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.11

In <92098.232240U58601@uicvm.uic.edu> <U58601@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:

> I see there has been some traffic here as to how to get a hold of Mike and
> where to get copies of his shorts. Well the first is easy.
> Its: MIKE JITTLOV  902 Maltman  WhollyOdd Calf. 90026
> send it back. He will however take any and all kind wishes.
> Now here is where I may catch it. I talked to Mike today and he has plans
> at some point in the future to try to release some of his shorts on video
> along with outtakes and such to raise some money. NOTE: HE SAID THIS IS
> NOT PLANNED FOR ANYTIME SOON!
> He has no objection in people  making copies of his shorts for friends
> and such so long as thay are not sold or distributed for profit.
> This is a list of shorts I have: Time Tripper, Interview, Fashionation,
> Wizard of speed and time, Good Grief, and Swing Shift. These 6 are
> first or second generation dubs from original 16mm film. I also have
> a very bad copy of The collector that must be 8 or 9 generation and
> is almost un-dubable.
> Now, for those of you interested, I will make VHS (or beta) dubs
> if you send me a blank tape and SASE along with it. I do not mean
> to say that I will make thousands of dubs for everyone, but I will
> turn out a small number for folks that really care. I would also like
> to get a really good copy of The Collector and any other short Mike
> has done. I could then add those to the tapes in the future.
> You can send the blank tape and return mailer to me at:
> Chris Dunn
> The Chicago Academy of Sciences
> 2001 N. Clark St.
> Chicago IL 60614
> I will put the 6 shorts I have on the tape. I wont include the Collector
> 



Great! Thanks for the info. Now I feel much better about my offer. I am going
to move next week. After the move, I will rent a VCR and Make ten copies or so.
I will post again before I do this. I neglected to mention that I have
ASTROPHAUNT. I do not have Good Greif (I don't think.) My copy of the collecter
isn't great either. Probably about 5 th generation rather than eighth. It might
go for one more.  I will "sell" these for the price of a video tape (or an
actual video tape ) and the price of postage. I will accept no money beyond
that. 
Does anyone have a complete list of short films. Could it be obtained from MIke
himself. I would be interested in such a list.


> -CHRIS DUNN                  * MAY YOU LIVE IN INTERESTING TIMES;
> U58601@UICVM.UIC.EDU         *  AND BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU ASK FOR,
> CHRISDOS@CHINET.CHI.IL.US    *   YOU JUST MIGHT GET IT.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
From: lindal@killer.asd.sgi.com (Linda Levy)
Subject: Re: The Wizard
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 19:51:52 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.155416.19432@vlsi.louisville.edu>, CL234106@ulkyvx.louisville.edu (Y. CAO) writes:
|> 
|> In <1992Apr2.020035.16537@e2big.mko.dec.com> lionel@quark.enet.dec.com writes:
|> 
 
|> > Nashua, NH 03062
|> I am not usually in the bussiness of making tapes, and I currently only have
|> access to one VCR. I am however interested in distrubing my copy of Wizard of
|> Speed and Time, and any of the other Jitlove shorts I have.  
|> Time Tripper, Night Shift, The Interview, Hdoge Podge Animation, and a Micky
|> Mouse Collector. Anyone who has an idea as to how I might be able to give these
|> out, or who is interested, mail me on this account. 
|> 
|> Tom Stevens <borrowing this account>
|>  


How do people feel about copying his short films 
without his permission and his gain?  He gave us 
permission this week to do all the copying we want 
of the full length movie, because they are illegaly 
distributing them anyway (he doesn't see a penny of 
the video sales or rentals)

However, the short films may still be the only thing
 he has control or rights to. Anyone know?

I would LOVE to have a copy of them, but not if I thought 
Jittlov would lose because of it.

Lindal@killer.asd.sgi.com
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
From: glen.campbell@rose.uucp (glen campbell)
Subject: The Wizard
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 11:03:35 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.2)


Date Entered: 04-10-92 14:15
On 04-07-92 Cl234106@ulkyvx.louisvill wrote to All:

C:> >  Could someone instruct me as to how I could go about obtaining a c
C:> >VHS of either the short or the 90min film: The Wizard of Speed and T
C:> >Preferably, I would like the short, but either would be fine.

C:I am not usually in the bussiness of making tapes, and I currently only
C:access to one VCR. I am however interested in distrubing my copy of Wiz
C:Speed and Time, and any of the other Jitlove shorts I have.
C:Time Tripper, Night Shift, The Interview, Hdoge Podge Animation, and a
C:Mouse Collector. Anyone who has an idea as to how I might be able to gi
C:out, or who is interested, mail me on this account.

  Tom, cheers for the offer.  I see the account is an .edu address.  Is
this a school (i.e. can I reach you at this address all summer long)?  I
would indeed like to have a copy of the short WOSAT, in fact more than one
copy (friends, you know), and all the others as well, but I can't do it
right at the moment.  If I can reach you here for a while yet, I'll get
back to you.  Is this alright?  Ciao.  Cheers.

                                                           Glen.

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
From: kat@owlnet.rice.edu (Kathleen Merle Dodson)
Subject: Re: Briefcase cars in real life
Followup-To: kat@owlnet.rice.edu
Summary: briefcase for real?
Organization: Rice University
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:41:37 GMT

In article <BM262w.8tA@world.std.com> kibo@world.std.com (James 'Kibo' Parry) writes:
>
>But didn't Jittlov's nuclear-powered briefcasemobile have a top rated
>speed of 30mph, according to the closing credits?  
>
>Of course, the Japanese ones might be animated at a different fps rate,
                                       ^^^^^^^^
>to make them APPEAR to be faster.


Sorry to dissapoint you, but I don't think that the briefcasemobile
was animated.  I saw WOSAT first at NOLACON in New Orleans; was highly
impressed, walked to the dealer's room, picked up a random magazine, and
realized it had THE WIZARD on the front.  (It also featured speculation
on what "Return of the Jedi" would be like, to give you an idea of the
magazine's age.)  Needless to say, I bought the magazine.

The article said that Jittlov became known around his college for riding
his "powered briefcase" around campus.  Probably he just used the same
briefcase or a newer model in the movie (anyone, please correct me if
I'm wrong!!)


Katie


* "It is the opinion of the author that the sound of a nuclear bomb *
*  exploding in reverse is SQUIGLCHMP.  The author will continue to *
*  hold this opinion until proved otherwise.                        *
*                     _The Armaggedon Blues_, Daniel Keyes Moran    *
From: CL234106@ulkyvx.louisville.edu (Y. CAO)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
Subject: Re: The Wizard
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:54:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: vlsi.1992Apr7.155416.19432
Organization: University of Louisville
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.11


In <1992Apr2.020035.16537@e2big.mko.dec.com> lionel@quark.enet.dec.com writes:

> 
> In article <1992Mar28.102451.15335@rose.uucp>, glen.campbell@rose.uucp 
> (glen campbell) writes...
> >  Could someone instruct me as to how I could go about obtaining a copy on 
> >VHS of either the short or the 90min film: The Wizard of Speed and Time?  
> >Preferably, I would like the short, but either would be fine.  Ciao.  
> > 
> 
> You should be able to order the feature film from your local video store -
> it's been produced in both VHS and laserdisc.  (I have the laserdisc
> version.)  I can't help regarding the short - though I have a tape of
> the Disney show which featured excerpts of the short, I'd also like to see
> the whole thing (without going to a con, that is.)
> 
> Nashua, NH 03062
I am not usually in the bussiness of making tapes, and I currently only have
access to one VCR. I am however interested in distrubing my copy of Wizard of
Speed and Time, and any of the other Jitlove shorts I have.  
Time Tripper, Night Shift, The Interview, Hdoge Podge Animation, and a Micky
Mouse Collector. Anyone who has an idea as to how I might be able to give these
out, or who is interested, mail me on this account. 

Tom Stevens <borrowing this account>
From: eoin@eoin.net.netcom.com (John F. Snyder)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
Subject: Re: Convention appearences?
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 17:16:46 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Amethyst Systems

eoin@eoin.net.netcom.com (John F. Snyder) writes:

> gl1e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Greg G Levrault) writes:
> 
> > Subject: Convention appearences?
> 
> I'm assuming you are asking if/when Mike shows up at conventions.
> 
> Mike when he can afford it, does show at conventions.  Mostly LA cons,
> but there is a rumor that he will be attending BayCon in San Jose,
> Easter Weekend.
  ^^^^^^
Oops, I should have said >>>MEMORIAL<<< day weekend.  May 22-25, 1992.

Email me for details, check in alt.fandom.cons or rec.arts.sf.cons,
or mail postmaster@clubzen.fidonet.org.


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Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
From: glen.campbell@rose.uucp (glen campbell)
Subject: The Wizard...
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 11:03:29 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.2)


Date Entered: 04-10-92 14:15
On 04-06-92 Dethomas@amherst.edu wrote to All:

D(:>   Could someone instruct me as to how I could go about obtaining a c
D(:> VHS of either the short or the 90min film: The Wizard of Speed and T
D(:> Preferably, I would like the short, but either would be fine.  Ciao.
D(:> Cheers.

D(:The 90 min film is available on video (that's where I saw it) and shou
D(:any of your better video stores.

  Indeed.  I haven't seen it around, but I will certainly look more
fastidiously now that I know it's there somewhere...  Ciao.  Cheers.

                                                              Glen.

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
From: doehr@magellan.den.mmc.com (Brett B. Doehr)
Subject: RE: Mike Jittlov's snail-mail address
Organization: Martin Marietta Astronautics Group
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 13:31:52 GMT

In article <44310@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, hinklere@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Kolchak) writes:
|> Yeah.  I could use his address, too, if it's OK to give it out.
|> 
|> Thanks in advance!
|> 
|> Rob Hinkle

Here's what someone posted here before:

Mike Jittlov 
902 Maltman  
Hollywood CA 90026

--Brett.

============================================================|
Brett B. Doehr           Martin Marietta Astronautics Group |
Voice: +1-303-977-1504   P.O. Box 179  Denver, CO 80201 USA |
Fax:   +1-303-977-1530          Internet: doehr@den.mmc.com |
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: Colony ships, among other things...
From: dholland@husc10.harvard.edu (David Holland)
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:10:18
Organization: Harvard Arts and Sciences Computer Services, Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca's message of Sun, 05 Apr 1992 04:59:25 GMT


 > Anyway, you can't mainitan an orbit of 'y' over one spot on the
 > planet without 'stationkeeping' - you need to FIGHT to stay
 > there. Aivas notes that the Buenos Ares and the Bahrain need to
 > be destroyed because they won't stay where they are for long. I
 > suspect Anne has them trapped in the magnetic fields of Pern
 > (which rotate with the planet) - she does tend to like
 > electromagnetic effects (see ATWOP). Plus, this lets the planet
 > itself munch some of the power requirements.

That can't be. Dragonsdawn: "...enough fuel in the Yoko's sump tank for
centuries of minor orbital corrections."

Doesn't strike me as consistent with non-geosynchronous thrusting 
orbits. Maintaining such a disaster would take an immense amount of fuel
even over the short term. If they had that kind of fuel they wouldn't have
been hoarding so much.

--
   - David A. Holland			dholland@husc.harvard.edu

     "He jumped on his horse and galloped off madly in all directions."
From: ddoug@dl5000.bc.edu (Debra R.Douglass)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Pern's size
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:58:47 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Institute for Space Research, Boston College

I just finished reading ATWOP (after having read this group for over a
month) and one statement in the book puzzled me. When they were
discussing the selected exile location for the criminals, I believe
Jaxom or someone talking to him said that the selected location was
much better than the Far West Continent. I don't remember
this continent on any of the maps in any of the Pen books that I have
read and I think I have red all of them now.

Has anyone else heard of this continent?

-Debbie Douglass
--
ddoug@dl5000.bc.edu
System Administrator and Programmer
Institute for Space Research
Boston College
From: 910868c@ace.acadiau.ca (WESTON WILLIAM CLULEE)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: give me info
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:13:23 GMT
Distribution: full
Organization: Acadia University



	I'm looking for a pern mud, and from what I'm getting on this 
newsgroup I have to assume you've got one

	Can I get in? if so please send me an address to connect to and 
instructions on how to get in.
From: dixon@fourfold.pc.ocunix.on.ca (dixon kenner)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: Pern's size
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 12:54:30 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: FourFold Symmetry, Breckenridge, Quebec

morpheus@cco.caltech.edu (Ken Bartlett) writes:

> On the net, we use something called SPOILER WARNINGS.  I realize that
> some people might not know how to do this, so rather than just flame,
> I'll explain:
> 
> Lastly, one of the most common, and usually the most preferred way, to
> include a spoiler warning is to include a ^L (control-L) character in your
> post, alone on a line.  Like this:

Doesn't anyone use ROT13 anymore for spoilers?


--
dixon kenner, dixon@fourfold.pc.ocunix.on.ca
FourFold Symmetry, Breckenridge, Quebec, Canada
From: remillard@thalia.astro.ocala.com (Marc Remillard)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Don't like PernMUSH?  Don't read this, either
Date: 14 Apr 92 06:28:30 GMT
Organization: Survivors of the Metapsychic Rebellion
X-Useragent: TharHes Mnemosyne


Ever looked at the WHO on PernMUSH at, say, four in the morning, and
asked yourself what the heck those people are doing there?  The following
cast list was composed by several highly respectable, high ranking
weyrleader types (and one neither respectable nor high ranking weyr type)
at around that time a few days back, and so, despite popular demand, we
present, as an insight into the minds of said higher-ups:

																The Tradgedy Of 
												H     A      M      L      E      T
															Prince of Denmark
As Performed by the People of PernMUSH:

Claudius -- Russ (D'vin) Smith
Hamlet -- F. Jon (F'jon) Kull
Polonius -- Ken (Malachite) Bartlett
Horatio -- Tony (C'loren) Murray
Laertes -- Chris (C'trel) Page
Voltemund -- Mandew
Cornelius - Chris (M'ndor) ?
Rosencrantz -- Jared (R'kon) Norton
Guildenstern -- Larry (H'kon) Shields
Osric -- Bill (R'ken) Grant
Gentleman -- Justin (S'klin) Harvey 
Marcellus -- Todd (T'rin) Kulick
Bernardo -- Grant (J'lan) Fasse
Francisco -- Steven (G'ravon) ?
Reynaldo -- Encil
Fortinbras -- Steven (T'lean) Shivers
Players -- Joshua (J'shua) Bell, Gonzago; Carol (Arianna) Gaupp,
Baptista; Bert, Lucianus
Two Clowns, Gravediggers -- Tarkhem, Jax 
A Norwegian Captain -- Edmond (Alaric) Meinfelder
English Ambassadors -- R?nice, Megan (Marlena) O?Shaughnessy, Marcia
(Marcia) Bednarczyk
Gertrude -- Laura H. (Tavella) Burchard
Ophelia -- Beth (Annalyn) Moursund
Ghost of Hamlet?s Father -- Jeff (Sh'dow) Vance
...and copious extras.


        -- Marc
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
From: mason@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Ken Mason)
Subject: another way to bother the non-pernese!
Organization: University of North Texas, Denton
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:10:43 GMT


ok, folks here's another way to have fun with the non-pernese:


if you can find another player, talk to them in RL about pern.

then if anyone asks you what your talking about, ask THEM:

"are you a newbie?"


K'len
-----
Fort Rider
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
From: morpheus@cco.caltech.edu (Ken Bartlett)
Subject: Re: PernMUSH: Gather Pictures!
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 05:16:48 GMT


Oooo.  _The People of PernMUSH_.  :)

		--Zedek, harper apprentice, being worshipped
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
From: morpheus@cco.caltech.edu (Ken Bartlett)
Subject: Re: Pern's size
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: alt
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 05:31:14 GMT

In article <DDOUG.92Apr8185847@dl5000.bc.edu> ddoug@dl5000.bc.edu (Debra R.Douglass) writes:
>I just finished reading ATWOP (after having read this group for over a
>month) and one statement in the book puzzled me. 
> [spoiler deleted]
>
>-Debbie Douglass

ACK, people, you need to realize that not everyone out there has read
the book yet--heck, I've only read the first two, myself.

On the net, we use something called SPOILER WARNINGS.  I realize that
some people might not know how to do this, so rather than just flame,
I'll explain:

(spoiler, BTW, refers to parts of the story that are revealed, thus
 'spoiling' things for people who haven't read it yet)

One way to indicate spoilers is to put it in the heading:

ATWOP Spoilers:  Pern's Size

--or--

Pern's Size (ATWOP spoilers!)

Note that just 'Pern's Size: spoilers!' is unacceptable, since it doesn't
tell what is being spoiled.

Another good thing to do is to put 'SPOILERS' (yes, capital letters work
well in this case) at the start of your post, and again, indicate what
it is that you're spoiling.

Lastly, one of the most common, and usually the most preferred way, to
include a spoiler warning is to include a ^L (control-L) character in your
post, alone on a line.  Like this:



On most (if not all?) newsreaders, that will have the effect of pausing
the screen so that the person reading the article can decide if he wants
to go on and read the spoiler, or skip it without having read it.

Most news posting software can include control-L's.  If, for some reason,
yours won't, or you can't figure out how to do it, leaving a large amount
of whitespace (return characters -- blank lines to laymen) is somewhat of
a substitute.  How many?  Well, about...
























...twenty-five lines or so, the size of a 'standard' screen.

When following up something with a spoiler warning, or even a posting
like this one I responded to, that doesn't have one but _needs_ one,
follow the same spoiler guidelines.  Note that you'll usually need to
edit out the > in front of a ^L, so that it's again alone on a blank
line.

Remember your spoiler warnings, and we'll keep everyone happy when it
comes to talking about the latest Pern books.  :)

			--Ken (Malachite et al on PernMUSH)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
From: emeinfel@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (...)
Subject: Re: PernMUSH: Gather Pictures!
Organization: Ferrous Fencing Ferrets Inc.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 01:41:13 GMT

ambar@cygnus.com wrote: 

>note that I get more air time that the cats do.  Unfair!  There are five
>of them and only one of me. :-) :-)

Actually Ambar you are in the Wiz photo and a nice photo with the Master
Harper.  You WERE in others but they can't be released until a certain
MUSHer gives consent and comes of legal age (43 years old in some states).

>Seriously, Alaric, that was a killer job of indexing.  Thanks.  Just
>reading the list brought back memories. :-)
>				 AMBAR

No prob Ambar, had fun doing it. :)

Yeah, Per and I were QUITE stressed out afterwards but are quite okay now.
I think we may be (almost) up to contemplating Gather '93.  It would
need a snappy title though for the T-shirts.... maybe: "I'm not a
[your &pos here] but I play one on PernMUSH."

Btw, Gather pic orders will be taken until May 8th and then I am going
to process all the orders I have.  This may easily change, be warned.

Some people have expressed deep regret at not being able to make the 
gather.  I often hear things like, "[...] my life is just not complete.",
or "I get terminally depressed when I think about what I missed".  Now
you too can post-humously become part of Gather '92.  Send me your a negative
of a picture of your self stating who you are, why you couldn't make it
to the DC RL Gather '92 (must be signed by your parent or legal gaurdian
if under 18 years of age, that is if you are under 18 years of age, if
your parents are under 18 years of age you have a problem) and I will
stuff you picture in between all the others and offer it to everyone
else with a caption to make everyone THINK you were there.

Example:
x18		%N standing alone with an odd smile, by a part
		of Gather(TM) apartment you never quite saw but wish
		you had after seeing this wonderful picture of %o.
		%S is quite attractive and seems to have a grace and
		presence of mind equaled only by Ghandi, Buckminster Fuller,
		and possibly Walter Cronkite.

Actually I am serious.  Some people have have already offered to send some
pictures.  I will take them 'post info and give 'em to whomever wants 'em.
So far, we may have a photo of Mykal, Magreta and Tandym (maybe).
A PhotoAlbum of Pern.... One big mother of a happy, er well.... One
big mother of a family anways. 

Pern can't be too bad, Per & I didn't check one beltknife at the door and
not one drop of blood was spilled.  How many other MU*'s could say that?

Anyway don't foget: get your gather pict requests or phony gather pics
in to me ASAP.
-- 
Edmond L. Meinfelder    emeinfel@gmuvax2.gmu.edu // In the unlikely event of 
a water landing, your terminal may be used as an emergency floatation device.
// safe -n- sorry \\
From: dpenn@bnr.ca ( Dick Penn )
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: What's Hatching Here?
Date: 15 Apr 92 11:51:00 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research

Every now and again, one stumbles on a corner of the net in which people are
doing something truly incomprehensible. Usually this involves obscure forms of
misogyny or something incomprehensibly technical. I apologise for breaking into
your corner -- but what is going on here? I have read the books, of course, but
this appears to be a game? Can anyone e-mail me a FAQ file -- I'm interested in
innovative uses for communciations networks.

       Dick Penn, BNR, Ottawa, Canada
From: thierry@curlie.UUCP (Thierry Lach   )
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: Pern's size
Date: 14 Apr 92 02:07:12 GMT
Organization: Not An Organization

dixon@fourfold.pc.ocunix.on.ca (dixon kenner) writes:

> morpheus@cco.caltech.edu (Ken Bartlett) writes:
> 
> > On the net, we use something called SPOILER WARNINGS.  I realize that
> > some people might not know how to do this, so rather than just flame,
> > I'll explain:
> > 
> > Lastly, one of the most common, and usually the most preferred way, to
> > include a spoiler warning is to include a ^L (control-L) character in your
> > post, alone on a line.  Like this:
> 
> Doesn't anyone use ROT13 anymore for spoilers?
> 
> 
> --
> dixon kenner, dixon@fourfold.pc.ocunix.on.ca
> FourFold Symmetry, Breckenridge, Quebec, Canada 

rot13 seems to be one of the options left out of newsreaders if
it can be configured out...

Thierry Lach				UUCP: sharkey!sycom!curlie!thierry
My opinions are mine and mine alone.