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From: gibbsm@ll.mit.edu (MargAret D. Gibbs)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: ALL: "Where is the update?" mini-FAQ
Summary: Frequently Asked Question re "Where is the update"
Keywords: Where is the update? faq
Date: 5 Jan 93 16:27:13 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: M.I.T. Lincoln Laboratory



Last-posted: 10/27/92
Changes since last posting: none

This is an experiment aimed towards people who don't read the long,
monthly FAQ (Frequently Asked Question list) for one reason or another,
even though it could help them solve their problems!  I am going to
post some of the topics covered in the FAQ separately, and not all on
one day.  Hopefully the shorter articles will encourage more people to
become familiar with these topics.

**************

Where's such-and-such an update?
(For soaps which have regular updaters, ie AMC)

Remember that the updaters are real people with real jobs and real school
work just like you.  Let's put it this way -- if someone works 8-5 and
watches a soap opera episode after work, it might be difficult for
them to have the update done by early the next morning.  Also, there
is often a bit of lag time between the time an article is posted
and when the article reaches your news site.  So *please* don't post
an article on Tuesday asking where Monday's update is... you might
upset the Monday updater enough that he or she will stop doing the 
updates altogether!

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From: sheri@cs.utexas.edu (Sheri Brice)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: KL
Date: 8 Jan 1993 15:17:16 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: na
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I have enjoyed reading all of your comments today about last night's 
episode. Tim, during the "coming attractions" :-)  I said out loud, "Oh,
Tim is going to love this."  My BH said "Who's Tim?"  HA!  :-)

Anyway, I have only one more theory to add to Mary's death.  She taped
Mac threatening her and then killed herself knowing that Mac would be 
the one accused.  I only say this because, after she found out about Val,
maybe she thought that she would eventually get caught anyway.

Thanks to all of yall for your outstanding comments today, ie. Joanna,
Beverly, Tim, etc.  It is fun reading about KL on Friday.

sheri
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: SIS:Was there a 1/2/93 episode?
From: kim@agx.usu.edu (Kim Barnard)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:08:28 GMT
Organization: Utah State University (USU)

My local affliate, once again, showed local ballgame instead of the usual 
NBC programming on Saturday night.  Was Sisters on?  If so could someone 
please post or e-mail me an update.  Thanks!

Kim
From: jah0532@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com (Julia Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN: name changing
Date: 7 Jan 93 19:41:48 GMT
Organization: BCS, Seattle

I kept my name through 2 marriages (and 2 divorces) and it certainly
saved me from any hassles with credit cards, drivers license, bank
accounts, etc.  My first husband had no problem with me keeping
my birth name since he had 2 ex-wives with his name and he was
starting to feel a little embarassed.  My second husband wasn't
as happy about it because his mother pressured him to try to "make"
me change my name.

When I was in court for my first divorce, the judge that signed
the papers noticed that I had not changed my name and speculated
that this was the reason that my marriage had not worked out.
He said "that I hadn't given up enough to make a successful
marriage."  I was so stunned that I didn't say anything until
I was out on the street a half hour later.  Then I paced the
sidewalk muttering furiously to myself.  I've been pissed off
about this for 13 years.  Ironically, this same judge signed my
2nd set of divorce papers last year.  No comments this time.



-- 
Julia Henry                         The wastepaper basket is the writer's
jah0532@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com   best friend.
                                            Isaac Bashevis Singer
Organization: Junior, English, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:00:08 -0500 
From: Dawn Marie Neuhart <dn1g+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: SB--all time favorite storyline

>second favorite scenes would have to be the bad guy whose name escapes
>me who had a very evil laugh and chased eden.  in fact he was married
>to her...he was a wonderful bad guy.  "and she didn't even have to
>change her initials..."  you'd think i would remember his name...
>he was hilarious.


It was Kirk Cranston (sp?)

-dawn
From: cf@planck.physics.purdue.edu (Coleen Flanagan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL
Summary: No Way!!
Date: 12 Jan 93 15:58:25 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Physics Department

In article <X3rgs*oB1@cecily.UUCP> rose@cecily.UUCP (Rose M. Delckum) writes:

     When Nick 'died', he left all his money to Eve,
>provided she marry for love, and Julie was to be th ejudge as to
>whether the marriage was one of true love.  Julie agreed to lie
>for Eve and let her marry Jack.  Jack somehow stole all of Nick's
>money from Eve, leaving her penniless.  That's when Eve followed
>J&J to LA on their honeymoon and bawled Jack out for it, and Hawk
>overheard them and latched on the the Devereauxs.  So Jack not
>only lost all of the Devereaux money, he also lost all of Nick
>and Eve's money.


>     Roserooni
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>"You can blow out a candle        |      Rose Delckum
> But you can't blow out a fire,   |      rose@cecily.UUCP
> Once the flames begin to catch   |      rose%cecily@uunet.uu.net    
> The wind will blow them higher"  |      uunet!coplex!cecily!rose
>             --Peter Gabriel      |
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------- 

                        Jack did NOT lose Eve's money.
                        Eve's money had to be returned
                        to the trust when she and Jack
                        divorced.  Jack borrowed money
                        from the bank (using his stocks
                        as collatoral) to repay Eve's trust.
                        When Eve is deemed to be happily
                        married again she can still have
                        her money.  Jack explained this
                        to Jen out of Eve's earshot. One
                        presumes Eve also knows the truth
                        now.  Jack isn't the downfall of
                        civilization as we know it.
                         



            ======
            Coleen
            ======
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Tuesday, 5 Jan 1993 10:56:21 MST
From: <IDSWB@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject:    DOOL: Tan, Welcome Back

I just wanted to take this opportunity to welcome back all of those
who took some time off for the holidays.  I hope your seasons were
great and for those of you who traveled, I hope your trip was
sensational and fun.

Again, welcome back.  It's nice to see all those posts on the net
once again.  We (those of us working either out of home or on the
job) worked hard to keep posts a rollin.  It's nice to know that we
can take a breather now.  Not to say that we will but, it's still
kinda nice to know.

A sore, tired fingered from all the posting Quince

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From: wynee@tbird1.larc.nasa.gov (Wynee Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: GL:  New Mindy
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:01:36
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA
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In-reply-to: glb3833@sjfc.UUCP's message of 4 Jan 93 22:48:51 GMT
X-Md4-Signature: 7b85cb49f400fc254718afa429290327

In article <2331@sjfc.UUCP> glb3833@sjfc.UUCP (Gidget Bowden) writes:

   I saw the new Mindy today, and I just have one word for her.
   

   YUK!!!

I agree!!  Nothing about her says "Mindy".  And that accent..!!!  
If an award was given  for the worst excuse for a fake  accent, it
would be hers.
From: dias@cac.washington.edu (Vivian Dias )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: SB: Another unlurker
Date: 12 Jan 1993 00:03:20 GMT
Organization: UW Computing
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: redx.cac.washington.edu

In article <1993Jan11.184214.14560@bnr.ca>, trudy@bcarh17d.BNR.CA (Trudy McConnell) writes:
|> Hi everyone,
|>  
|> Since I've seen a couple of other lurkers unlurk, I thought I should
|> too, before it is too late. I've only been watching SB for about 8
|> months, and now I'm sorry I didn't start years ago !!!! 

  Glad to have you aboard.  I think it's great that the lurkers are finally
  unlurking.  This is it gang, do it now or never.  Come on, it's easy, you
  can do it and we really want to hear from everyone before we disband.
|>  
|> The posts to this group have been great and very entertaining. I'm
|> really going to miss this show !!!!! (Friday is my birthday - what 
|> a lousy birthday present, eh ??? - the end of my soap !!)

  Egads, if we're not careful these Capricorns will overtake the Sags.
  Happy early birthday, Trudy.
  
|> P.S. Could somebody reply if they see this, I have tried to post
|> once before but I don't know if it made it out or not. 
|> 

  See what, I didn't see anything, did you see anything?  Wierd...

  -Vivian
From: connie@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (CK)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: Y&R: Update 2-Jan-1993
Date: 5 Jan 93 18:25:16 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: BTL


Russ - thank you VERY much for that great update!!!  Keep
up the good work!!

Did Michael plan for the pictures to be delivered to the jury at that
precise time?  Just wonder why he got furious....

Victoria confessed to Nikky that she detests sex??  I am so glad
that Victor left while they talked.  He is just so obnoxious and
pig/pin headed.  He needs to be brought back to Earth by someone
putting a big foot up his butt.  Or better yet - by someone taking
his business(es) away from him!


Michael from Berlin - I know that you like Victor but if you
could just see how he is acting...

Do you think that Victoria is going to find the ripped up letter
than Ryan was writing?

Also, even though I saw the show where Danny was drugged, thanks
to the person that suggested that Michael was going to make it
look like it was his ex-wife in the pictures.
That never dawned on me...

Thanks again Russ!
From: dbridges@mala.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC:MEK ON GMA
Date: 7 Jan 93 09:09:29 -0700
Organization: Malaspina College

MEK also mentioned on GMA that his movie will hit the theaters on
Jan 22  (probably nov. in Canada).  It's called HEX and is a
comedy thriller.
doug
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: jgacker@news.gsfc.nasa.gov (James G. Acker)
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN: St. Pete FL (was Re: AMC: update for 01/04)
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center - Greenbelt, MD USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:29:17 GMT

Debbie Millard (dmillard@encore.com) wrote:

: Oooo, ooo, I never new a Susan Starr, but I lived in St. Pete
: for a couple of years.  Worked for the Times.  
: 
: The world's gettin' smaller every day.
: 
: Debbie Millard (I really should be working)

	You think it's small now...

	To get through graduate school, I signed up as a sports
reporter covering high school football games for the late,
lamented _Evening Independent_.  After it got taken in by the _Times_,
the sports department took me under their wing, and let me keep
writing stories about a variety of topics, specializing on
swimming.  I also did stats on the winter sports seasons and
for awhile did the "Performance of the Week" story.
	I knew Kyle Parks, Mike Sappington, Don James(?), a couple of
the Clearwater Branch guys, and we had a investigative reporter named
Jeff Good on the swim team.  Another swimmer named Meg Lambke nee Bell
started working in the financial dept.  Any of these names significant?
Where did you live?

	Jim Acker (who really should be working, too)
P.S. I'm going to be in Miami Feb. 15-18, if I can find a room.

	jgacker@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov
From: njs@mrtoad.lahabra.chevron.com (n.j.spera)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: TAN  - Another New Peel
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:05:35 GMT
Reply-To: njs@mrtoad.lahabra.chevron.com
Organization: Chevron, La Habra, CA

In article <1993Jan12.155045.28034@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, bab2@nestor.cc.bellcore.com (barter,elizabeth) writes:
|> Sisters, brothers & friends - lend me your ears!
|> (oops, sorry, been reading too much again)
|> 
|> It's just recently come to light that I've been
|> suffering from amnesia.  After intensive hynosis,
|> I now know that my name isn't really Beth, it's
|> Cranberry!  Yes, I am a long-lost Peel.  Thankfully, 
|> I do remember our Mom, Emma, but Dad is still a bit fuzzy.
|> I'm working on it, though.  My hypnotist feels maybe
|> this inability to focus on Dad may be the reason I
|> got amnesia in the first place.  Who knows?  
|> 
|> Anyway, I'm glad to be back with the family at long
|> last!
|> 
|> Cranberry (formerly Beth)

   Wow the family sure is growing - welcome to the clan Ms. Cranberry

Tangy
-- 
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From: djg@phoenix.genrad.com (Deborah J. Graham)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Ceara
Date: 11 Jan 1993 09:23:01 -0500
Organization: GenRad, Inc.
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: phoenix.genrad.com

In article <1993Jan10.014144.6850@IRO.UMontreal.CA> laviers@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Cocotte Minute) writes:

>I'd like some details on Ceara's death. I think it's a pity
>that it was mostly "discussed" on Loving. They barely spoke
>of it on AMC...

Okay. Yes. Ceara died on LOVING, and we discussed it a lot there. I
think you should follow the LOVING discussion now, since Jeremy has
transferred over and others are sure to follow. :-)

Ceara called Jeremy from the plane. Unfortunately, Jeremy was not
home, but she left a message on teh answering machine. She said she
couldn't believe that she was on her way tose him, and they'd be
together real soon.

Meanwhile, Jeremy was at the airport (along with most of Corinth's
residentes, it turns out). Jeremy was there with the international
agent and Leo to trap Mr. Butler. Ava was there with Dinah Lee, for a
promotional ad photo shoot. Casey was the photographer, and Ally was
along for moral support. Butler figured out it was a setup, and pulled
a gun. A bus was arriving with the stewardesses and passengers from
the flight Ceara was on. Butler grabbed the first one off, a
stewardess. Leo lunged for Butler, struggled, and a shot was fired,
just a Ceara was emerging from the bus. Jeremy saw her and called her
name. 

She died instantly. There was nothing Jeremy, or the EMTs could do.
Jeremy had a hard time dealing with the death, and Leo felt
responsible, but now, Jeremy has forgiven Leo and Jeremy has gotten
leo out of jail.

Later, after Jeremy kissed Ceara goodbye, Dinah Lee took him home.
There was a message on the answering machine. Jeremy listened to
Ceara's voice, and broke down. "How can she be dead, when I hear her
voice?" Trisha came in to Jeremy's house, rushed up and gave Jeremy a
consoling hug. Dinah Lee looked on, jealously, but wordlessly. Jeremy
told them both to leave, he wanted to be alone. After a few minutes,
he played the message again, then trashed the house.

Now, he seems griefstricken, but he's handeling it.

In fact, Stacey is in trouble, and Jeremy is going to "rescue" her.

At least he hasn't painted anyone, yet (that I know of).

Any specific questions?

deb
(djg@genrad.com)
(Semi-official LOVING coordinator and person with good memory for
soaps, but don't ask me what I had for breakfast....:-))
From: lavergne@bnr.ca (Marc Lavergne)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: Y&R - Molly and Sheila
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:15:41 GMT
Reply-To: lavergne@bnr.ca (Marc Lavergne)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

In article <1ikcujINNlvt@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, brenda@wpi.WPI.EDU (brenda) writes:
|> 
|> when did molly first find out about sheila not being dead??? 
|> i thought everyone thought she was dead!?
|> 
|> clueless as ever
|> brenda
|> 
|> -- 
|> brenda@wpi.wpi.edu    "One of the witnesses MUST not be telling us      
|> box 1256, wpi          everything..."
|> worcester, ma                  ~an astonished Paul Drake, to Perry Mason   
|> ****************************************************************************

I'll let someone else answer that. The point of this post is that
Lauren also knows that Sheila is not dead. She ran into Sheila 
when she went out to L.A. last year. They had the long argument
with Lauren swearing that she'll never forgive Sheila.

I should point out that this scene was in B&B and it seems that
the writers in Y&R have failed to carry it over. I'm not sure
why. Probably the 'let's hope no one ever saw this scene' syndrome.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: EFS6ET1@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU
Subject: Re: DOOL: TAN: A song
Reply-To: ecz5mxr@mvs.oac.ucla.edu
Date: 6 Jan 93 17:10:25 PST

Hi Spudnix,
LOVED the song.  Thanks for giving me a good laugh. I'm proud
to be your sister, you creative songstress you.
**Razzie 
-------------------------------------
>
>Imagine 
>(by Spudnix P. Peel,
>from _Imagine_ by John Lennon)
>
>
>Imagine there's no Crystal
>God if that were only so
>No Carly overrunning our TV screens
>Instead SteveKaylaNickEveAliceTomVicMarcusDougJulieJohnJackJennandJo
>Imagine all we long time fans
>No longer FFing through the show
>
>Imagine there are no Reeds
>We fans would kill if this were so
>No pathetic acters like MuldoonRinnaandRKK
>And especially the talentless wonder Chappell
>Imagine all we long time fans
>Enjoying the show once again
>
>You may say I'm a dreamer
>But I'm not the only one
>I hope someday TPTB will realize this
>And the show will return to its once great past
>
>Imagine the rape's not forgetten
>As if TPTB thought we could
>No more Limpydick
>Instead  Lizard's a complex ruthless sexy villan
>Imagine all we long time fans
>No longer complaining that the show's pure crap.
>
>Imagine Nick and Eve have returned
>That Steve's has joined them too
>Because of this Kayla has returned to town
>Imagine all we long time fans
>Happy once again
>
>You may say I'm a dreamer
>But I'm not the only one
>I hope someday TPTB will realize this
>And the show will return to its once great past
>
>Imagine that SHH is given a frontburner storyline
>Involved in a triangle with Doug and Victor
>That talent was an the primary factor, not talentless youth
>Imagine all we long time fans
>Again looking forward to the show
>
>Imagine that Jack is Jack once again not a ofish baffon
>Jack and Jenn are involved with an adventure
>And above all Jo gets her Vern
>Imagine all we long time fans
>No longer feeling like stupid jerks for watching the show
>
>You may say I'm a dreamer
>But I'm not the only one
>I hope someday TPTB will realize this
>And the show will return to its once great past
>
>Imagine that John is Roman again
>And he and Marlena once again sizzle together
>Wayne was one of Stefano's henceman in disguise
>And furthering this the real Stefano too returns
>Imagine all we long time fans
>Caught up in an exciting, intelligent, and well written plot
>
>And finally imagine
>That the Hortons are back on top
>That Alice is cooking her donuts, and Tom is head of University Hopsital
>All the Hortons are the focual point of the show
>And not Dr. Carly Manning, the Camel Face Girl
>Imagine all we long time fans
>Being treated to the traditions of the past
>
>You may say I'm a dreamer
>But I'm not the only one
>I hope someday TPTB will realize this
>And the show will return to its once great past
>
>
>Spudnix--
>--
>Sally A. Wilson
>Spudnix Peel
>sally@mica.berkley.edu
>
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From: sanidas@stsci.edu (Nicholas Sanidas,G12,1385,ADD.1-29-91)
Subject: Re: GH:  Q&A from SOM
Originator: sanidas@homer.stsci.edu
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:07:39 GMT

Mike writes:

> more....patuey! They are losing viewers because of lack a of continuity and
> genuinely lame stories.

you are correct, sir!   (in a ed mcmahon type of voice)


i was almost tempted to make a new year's resolution to stop watching GH
and sending a nasty letter to the producer's of GH.

it's getting to the point that it doesn't seem worth the time and
trouble to spend 45 minutes each evening watching crummy plots falling
apart.

my wife and i may start only watching on fridays. you'd be suprised as
to how much you can still follow by only seeing the cliff hanger
episodes.

well, enough of my whining for now. 

on a more positive note, the halifax plot may be the only thing worth
watching over the next few months. i love the way he pisses off bill.
and, if holly is smart, she'll play up to halifax to try to get the
painting back.

nick
From: djg@phoenix.genrad.com (Deborah J. Graham)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: LOV: VCR Alert from Soap Opera Digest
Date: 6 Jan 1993 13:19:39 -0500
Organization: GenRad, Inc.
Distribution: na
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HOT ON THE TRAIL

They say you can't con a con man, but Jeremy's out to prove them wrong
on LOVING. He's been after clever Clay for a while, but it looks like
his hard work is about to pay off. Clay gets a surprise phone call on
Monday, January 18 - and it certainly doesn't go unnoticed. Jeremy
gets one step closer to nabbing this bad guy. Will Clay be able to
slither out of this one? Tune in and find out.

deb
(djg@genrad.com)