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From: donham@dbldog.enet.dec.com (Perry Donham)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Looking for TrueType Cyrillic for MSWindows
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:33:01 GMT
Reply-To: donham@super.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Education/Training



I'm trying to get my hands on a TrueType Cyrillic font for MS Windows 3.1.

Public domain would be great, shareware would be fine, but I don't want to 
pay big bucks. 

Even a pointer to a TT font editor/creator would help.

Regards,

Perry Donham
Information Design & Consulting
From: walsh@cs.umass.edu (Norman Walsh)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: Font conversion for X
Date: 4 Sep 92 12:56:15 GMT
Reply-To: walsh@cs.umass.edu
Organization: Dept of Comp and Info Sci, Univ of Mass (Amherst)
In-reply-to: ken@racerx.bridge.COM's message of 3 Sep 92 16:14:35 GMT

>>>>> On 3 Sep 92 16:14:35 GMT, ken@racerx.bridge.COM (Ken Hardy) said:
Ken> Which brings me to the point that I was intending to post a question
Ken> about:
Ken>
Ken> I'm dissatisfied with convertfont for a couple of reasons, so I want to
Ken> write my own vfont-to-BDF converter (unless anyone knows where a better
Ken> one already exists.) I've got the BDF man page from the MIT X
Ken> distribution, but I'm having trouble understanding how to compute the
Ken> SWIDTH parameter for a character.  Can anyone help me with this?

The formal definition of the BDF spec is available as a tech note from
Adobe (send 'help' to ps-file-server@adobe.com).  I suspect (though cannot
promise) that it is desribed more completely in that note than in the 
man page.

Ken> And although I wasn't going to post this by itself, as long as I'm here
Ken> I'll ask, are there are any _good_ X-based BDF font editors?  (That _must_
Ken> be a FAQ in one group or another!)

If any one knows, I'll gladly _put_ it in the FAQ! ;-)

                                                         norm

P.S. Thanks, Ken!
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From: s861298@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Marc A. Boschma)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Mac True Type -> Windows True Type
Summary: I know its probably a FAQ, but haven't seen it mentioned here...
Keywords: conversion
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:10:42 GMT
Organization: img Consultants

The subject line says it all. I am looking for a way to convert Mac
True type fonts to Windows format. I've created a Rally Driver's font
(they have their own way of describing a course) and the guy needs it
for his PC. You guessed it, I created the font on a Mac...

Thanks in advance for any pointers (PD prefered..)

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From: sz@Materna.DE (Stefan Zimmermann)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Fonts for WINDOWS 3.x
Date: 26 Aug 92 23:08:10 GMT

Hi 

Where (on which ftp archive) can I find fonts for WINDOWS 3.x ??

	Can somebody mail me ?

		Stefan

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Newsgroups: comp.fonts,comp.periphs.printers
From: rypma@waterloo.hp.com (Ted Rypma)
Subject: Re: Super/Subscripts on DeskJet (was Re: Fonts for HP Deskjet)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 03:41:05 GMT
Organization: HP Panacom Div Waterloo ON Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

Susan E. Kayser NSSDC/STX (301)513-1673 (kayser@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov) wrote:
: 
: I've a related question:  my nephew has WP 4.2 and a new HP DeskJet 500, and 
: want's to print with sub- and superscripts.  However, they are printing as 
: plain text.  Does he need a different font?  a different driver?

He needs a driver that understands partial line spacing, up and down. The
DeskJet supports "cursor positioning" of dots, decipoints and VMI (vertical
motion index). The application simply needs to know that and any kind of
super/subscripting is trivial.

Ted Rypam
HP Panacom Division

(Speaking for himself only!)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: perego@klimet.unibe.ch (Silvan Perego)
Subject: Czechoslovakian Fonts
Reply-To: perego@klimet.unibe.ch
Organization: Dept. of Meteorology, University of Berne, Switzerland
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 15:51:41 GMT

I would like to write some text in Czechoslovakian. Do there exist some fonts with
the necessary special Characters? (ATM, TT) I would be glad if I did not have to
use TeX.

      Silvan Perego
      perego@klimet.unibe.ch


From: hjb@otter.hpl.hp.com (Harry Barman)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 10:13:50 GMT
Subject: Re: Unicode and Fonts
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
Newsgroups: comp.fonts


Just to take things even further... do you even need a glyph index number for
a ligature?

Current font systems map a single character number (be it ASCII or UNICODE)
into a single glyph index (e.g. C->G, or 0x66->'f').  This mapping scheme
could be extended to allow for a *sequence* of character numbers mapping to a
single glyph (e.g. C1,C2,C3->G , or  0x66,0x66,0x69->'ffi').

There would have to be extra markup information that would tell the display
system whether it should look up characters individually, or as a group.
Whether this markup information is part of the UNICODE standard, or part of a
higher level interchange standard is a moot point.+  

This scheme works as long as ligatures can be named by giving their
constituent characters, and there is only one ligature for a given set of
characters*.

Cheers,

Harry

+ Personally, since UNICODE doesn't describe anything about the appearance of
a document, it isn't really a complete interchange standard in its own right.
So if UNICODE is simply part of an interchange standard, then I would be
inclined to keep markup out of UNICODE.  This has the benefit that
applications that want to parse text without appearance information, can
simply be given raw UNICODE.

* If there were more than one ligature glyph for a given sequence of
characters, one could argue that they should be in different fonts (unless you
want to open the can of worms associated with variant glyphs for single
characters, e.g. a font providing C->G1,G2,G3)

Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: bjag@nwu.edu (Bharathi Jagadeesh)
Subject: Serif headline fonts
Followup-To: comp.fonts
Organization: Northwestern University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 23:35:12 GMT

I'd like suggestions on serif fonts that you can use as headline fonts with
other serif fonts. I'm a little tired of the standard (and simple) mixing
of sans serif heads with serif body text, as well as mixing serif bold
heads with plain text of the same font. 

I'm interested in hearing if people have used combinations of serif heads &
text that are simple (not avante garde, or the type of design found in
mag's like emigre), but still a little unusual.

Thanks

Bharathi Jagadeesh                 bjag@nwu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: msg@csn.org (Michael Barton)
Subject: Need a font in the old-world 'Germanic' style
Followup-To: comp.fonts
Organization: csn.org
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:18:47 GMT

I'm trying to locate a font which contains Germanic stype characters.

Any suggestions?  I'll need to know where I can find them as well
as their names.

Thanks
Michael Barton
From: opstad@Apple.COM (David Opstad)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Why limit ourselves?
Date: 28 Aug 92 00:48:30 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

I've seen a lot of discussion of the perceived merits of encoding glyphs.
Some writers expressed the desire to be able to specifically include, say,
an 'fi' ligature directly. This leads me to the following question:

*Which* 'fi' ligature?

In the fonts we're working with for Line Layout in QuickDraw GX, we have
some cases where one font has 7 or 8 ligatures for, say, 'st'. Some are used
at the start of words (or lines), others medially, and still others at the
ends of lines (where the 't' has a longer flourish-type tail). If you're
going to encode glyphs, you either make the scheme open-ended (as I
believe AFII is intended to be), or else you make it a limited, finite
set. My point here is: why limit type designers to the set of ligatures
that can be included? And if you're allowing the direct inclusion of
ligatures in the text stream being rendered, what happens when the font
you're using gets substituted for another with a poorer (or richer) set of
ligatures?

For these reasons, and as I've argued before, I believe the inclusion of
ligatures in the text stream is a bad idea. Each font has its own unique
repertoire of glyphs, and should be given the chance to use it. This is
*NOT* to say, of course, that the user should not be allowed to specify
when ligatures, or swashes, or any other rich typographic features are used.
It *IS* meant to say that the method used to specify this is not part of the
text stream; it is by other means. In GX, for instance, we have style infor-
mation that specifies the degree of ligaturing, swashes, special positioning,
and so on. Other systems use different means.

Again, in my opinion, Unicode makes a great text encoding. Appearance
and typographic richness are handled more properly elsewhere.

Dave Opstad
Line Layout Weenie
From: trb@ima.isc.com (Andrew Tannenbaum)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts,soc.culture.jewish,comp.windows.x
Subject: heb8x13B.bdf X windows screen font available
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:57:08 GMT
Organization: Interactive Systems, Cambridge, MA 02138-5302

I am aware of two publicly available Hebrew fonts for X windows, a 6x13
and an 8x13, and both of these have Hebrew characters that are stroked
one pixel wide.  I found that such fonts look pretty anemic on screens
wider than 1000 pixels, so I devised an 8x13B font which has bolder
Hebrew characters.   I based this font on previous work by Thomas Bagli
(pcsbst!tom) and Joseph Friedman (yossi@cs.stanford.edu).

I tried to make the characters attractive and also to distinguish
dalet/resh, samech/mem-sofit, heh/chet, bet/chaf, gimel/nun, and so
forth.  I chose to use serifs and rounded corners in the font, this
choice could have gone either way, but they look ok.  It's darker and
less boxy than the previous heb8x13 while taking the same amount of
screen space.  Note that this is a fixed width bitmap font.

The new font is ISO8859-8 compliant, with characters in the same
positions as the above-mentioned fonts.

I have submitted the font to the X consortium for inclusion in their
next release.

If you are interested in picking up a copy of this font, I have put it
in the file: israel.nysernet.org:/israel/uploads/heb8x13B.bdf

I have put a sample xterm output file there too, if you want to see
what it looks like without installing it.  I took an xwd X window dump
of an xterm window which had the first chapter of Bereshit listed.
This file is: israel.nysernet.org:/israel/uploads/hebB.demo.Z
To display it on your X window system, type: zcat hebB.demo.Z | xwud

Note that the uploads/ directory on israel.nysernet.org is a temporary
area and the files may eventually be deleted from there or moved to a
permanent font storage area.

Please let me know if you find it useful, or if you have comments.

	Andrew Tannenbaum   Interactive   Cambridge, MA   +1 617 661 7474
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: tpb21243@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (BRAUER )
Subject: Re: Design advice: Optima & Bookman?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:44:32 GMT

hcheng@Auspex.COM (Howard Cheng) writes:

>In my opinion, I think that Stone Serif or Garamond look pretty good with
>Optima. I've never really liked Bookman anyway.

>There are a few books available regarding type, but I'm afraid I can't remember
>any of the titles. Go to your school bookstore and they should have a lot of
>stuff in the computer books area (e.g., "Type From the Desktop" is one (some-
>thing like that)).

>h.

There's a book called TYPEStyle that is very good. Concerning Optima
it suggests any on the following:
   Activa, Baskerville, Bodini, Century Schoolbook, 
   Bitstream Cooper, Dutch, ITC Galliard, ITC Garamond, Goudy Old Style,
   Zapf Calligraphic, Zapf Ellipitical, and Zurich.

Hope thuis help.

Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: rlw@atlanta.dg.com (Richard Wright)
Subject: Looking for Cheltenham font  
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 15:10:15 GMT
Organization: Data General Corp. Performance Services, Atlanta, GA

I am in need of either a Cheltenham font or a very close approximation of
the same. I also need Cheltenham Book. I need these in some form that can
be used or converted to Win3.1 Truetype (I have AllType). Any help will
be muchly appreciated. I am told that Cheltenham is very close to Century
Old Style, so that might be acceptable too. 

I have a copy of Cheltenham (& Book) for the Mac (Adobe format) so a 
program or procedure for converting that would be a solution as well.

					Thanks in advance,
					Richard
  
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Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: rlw@atlanta.dg.com (Richard Wright)
Subject: Re: Star Trek font?
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 15:13:23 GMT
Organization: Data General Corp. Performance Services, Atlanta, GA

In article <2410001@hplred.HP.COM>, yefchak@hplred.HP.COM (George Yefchak) writes:
|> I thought I saw a reference somewhere to a Star Trek: The Next Generation font.
|> Anybody know if this exists, and if so, where?
|> 

	I believe the font you are referring to is called Crillee. It can
	be found on ftp.cica.indiana.edu in the Windows font directory tree
	(I think it was an ATM font...).

						regards,
						Richard

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From: kivaman@milton.u.washington.edu (Mark Hammergren)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Need font w/ astronomical symbols
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:41:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: milton.kivaman.715452083
Organization: University of Washington

I'd like to find a laser-quality (i.e., not just bitmap) font that has
astronomical symbols -- ESPECIALLY the "solar" symbol (dot-in-a-circle).
Public domain would be nice.

Could someone point me at an ftp site that has such a font? Please....?
I don't wanna hafta learn TeX!!!

Thanks in advance,

Mark Hammergren
kivaman@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: karlberg@lne.kth.se (KRILLE_KROKODIL)
Subject: Remington
Reply-To: karlberg@lne.kth.se (KRILLE_KROKODIL)
Organization: KTH, Royal Institute of Technology, School of Electrical Engineering
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 11:35:07 GMT

I'm looking or a font that looks like an old typewriter's, where the 
letters don't come exactly on the line.

Anyone?

Martin
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: as375403@orion.yorku.ca
Subject: only a test
Organization: York University
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 08:54:26 GMT

this is a test . Sorrry

Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: hutton@ssd.kodak.com (Mike Hutton)
Subject: Need font converter from Mac to Sun(Open_windows)
Originator: hutton@massive
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:51:28 GMT

We created some fonts on the Mac with Fontographer(sp?) for use with FrameMaker.Now we want to use those fonts with FrameMaker on the Sun under OpenWindows.
Thanks in advance.

Mike 

hutton@ssd.kodak.com
From: v065hjku@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Jason Osborne)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: Mac True Type -> Windows True Type
Summary: I know its probably a FAQ, but haven't seen it mentioned here...
Keywords: conversion
Date: 31 Aug 92 12:56:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

>The subject line says it all. I am looking for a way to convert Mac
>True type fonts to Windows format. I've created a Rally Driver's font

get ttconverter.hqx from sumex or any major ftp site.  It converts
them quickly and easily.
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Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: drv@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dennis.r.vogel)
Subject: TrueType for DOS
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:15:34 GMT

I recently saw a press release-type article on another newsgroup
announcing TrueType for DOS from MicroLogic Software.

Is it shipping?  Do any retailers carry it, eg. Egghead?
Does anyone have any experience with it?  I'd use it mostly
with WordPerfect 5.1 but am curious if it would work with
other DOS applications. (The article implies it would work
only with WP, MS Word and MS Works.)

Thanks.

Dennis R. Vogel
AT&T Bell Laboratories
Middletown, NJ
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: d06448@tanus.oz.au (Argyrios Karavis)
Subject: Truetype Fonts
Organization: Pro-Net Australia
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 13:45:27 GMT

I would like to find out detailed information on Truetype Fonts and how they
differ from postscript fonts. Would appreciate your guidance to what I suspect
is a FAQ.

Send personal email

Ross Karavis

INET: d06448@tanus.oz.au
From: wdrdjh@thor.cf.ac.uk (Dr D J Harvey 92)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: Coca-Cola font request
Date: 27 Aug 92 11:46:29 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

In article <hal.714857771@yorku.ca> hal@nexus.yorku.ca (Harvey Haldorson) writes:
|
|Wooops, maybe I should have limited this distribution to Continental
|America's. 
|
|ANyway, I still haven't heard where I can get a Coca-Cola font
|(perferably post-script)...any help out there?

If you'd limitted it to N America, it wouldn't have got (??gotten??) to me!

I know the font's available on Compuserve (can't remember where), but I've got
a copy, so if someone would like to suggest an ftp site, I'll happily upload
it.

Dave Harvey
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: knappen@automatix.kph.uni-mainz.de (Joerg Knappen)
Subject: Re: Script font found in mathematics journals
Reply-To: knappen@obelix.kph.Uni-Mainz.DE
Organization: Institute for Nuclear Physics, Uni Mainz, FRG
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:52:40 GMT

There exists one, called rsfs, available from the famous TeX servers.
To use it (under the New Font Selection Scheme [NFSS]), get script.sty
from ftp.uni-stuttgart.de (directory soft/tex/latex-style-supported/nfss-addons)
--J"org Knappen
From: carlp@hp-vanc.hp.com (Carl Peterson)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: URW Font CD-ROM
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:18:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: vcd.Bu2AMB.LtI
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Vancouver Washington Div.
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6CCDA32BB014280@hpvcrcp2.vcd.hp.com>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 4 Sep 92 09:17:38 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9


  I have before me a short article about a CD-ROM
offered by the German type foundry URW called
TypeWorks.  The CD-ROM is supposed to contain
a collection of some 3,000 Type 1 fonts, all
unlocked, for a reasonable price.

  If you've purchased this CD-ROM or have a
knowledge of the general quality of URW's fonts,
would you please send me an e-mail message
letting me know what you think of URW and/or
this particular product?  I'd like to try to make
a reasonably informed decision about buying it.

========================================
Carl Peterson
Hewlett-Packard
Vancouver Washington Division

e-mail:  carlp@hp-vanc.vcd.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: pluther@percy.rain.com (Pat Luther)
Subject: Computer number font (For Checks)
Organization: Percy's mach, Portland, OR
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:06:59 GMT

Does anyone know the name of the font they use for writing the
account number at the bottom of checks? (In the US, at least...)

And is it available somewhere (In Postscript)?


					Thanks in Advance,
					??pat

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Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: mcdonald@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (J. D. McDonald)
Subject: Re: Unicode and Fonts
Organization: UIUC SCS
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:25:54 GMT

In article <27197@life.ai.mit.edu> glenn@wheat-chex.ai.mit.edu (Glenn A. Adams) writes:

>Blather Blather dozens of lines of blather.

I don't care one tiny hoot for the Asian hieroglyphics. I do care about
dingbats and particularly ligatures. Ligatures must be put in any code that
wants to be generally used.

In fact, in Japanese, your arguments say that all of Kanji is essentially
unneeded, as it can be described by a simpler script!!

Just put in ligatures and be done with it.

I don't care one whit about your arguments, I want ligatures.

So there.

Doug McDonald
From: brecher@husc8.harvard.edu (Jonathan Brecher)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: Type One Fonts + Mac StyleWriter??
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:03:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc8.BRECHER.92Sep3100323
Organization: Harvard Arts and Sciences Computer Services, Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: toban@ccu.umanitoba.ca's message of 3 Sep 92 05:28:27 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.052827.5857@ccu.umanitoba.ca> toban@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jeff Zuk) writes:
>I am sitting in front of a SW right now and I do know that it will not compre-
>hend Adobe fonts, even with Type Manager. If I am wrong may the hard drive of 
>my life bomb.  

If you mean to be technical and say that your StyleWrite doesn't comprehend 
Adobe fonts with ATM but rather that your Mac does the comprehending and
sends the results to the printer, you are correct.  Otherwise you are dead
wrong.  Type 1 fonts and ATM work with *ANY* printer that can otherwise work
normally with a Mac.

jonathan brecher
brecher@husc.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: hal@nexus.yorku.ca (Harvey Haldorson)
Subject: Coca-Cola font request
Summary: Need Coca-Cola font
Organization: York University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:36:11 GMT


Wooops, maybe I should have limited this distribution to Continental
America's. 

ANyway, I still haven't heard where I can get a Coca-Cola font
(perferably post-script)...any help out there?


hal

hal@nexus.yorku.ca
Newsgroups: comp.fonts