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In rec.motorcycles, goblin1@athena.mit.edu (Ihab A Elnaccash) writes:

>I was wondering if anyone could tell me a little about these in their various
>incarnations, i.e. the custom, the supersport the F, the K, etc. which is wich,
>and any useful info would be appreciated as I may be buying a pair (a custom and
>a supersport)  Also which 750 looks kind of cafe racerish with the springy
>looking fork covers?  Mentioning any features, or problems would be really
>helpful.  

Beware the exhaust system on the K models.  Especially on short trips, the
4-into-4 exhaust doesn't get warm enough to remove the condensation and
they quickly rust out.  After 11 years, the 4-into-2 exhaust on my 750F is
still holding up fine, other that a few rock strikes in the headers. :-)

There was very little difference between the '80 and '81 CB750F.  The '81
has slightly larger diameter fork tubs and better looking (IMHO) decals on
the tank.  

So, would you like to buy one in Colorado?  Mine is down for servicing
right now in preparation for eventual sale.  It's in excellent condition.
I've just found it too big and cold blooded for commuting in Colorado
winters. 

-Jeff Deeney-  KotD #0000  DoD#0498    NCTR    '88 XR600-Shamu   
jld@hpfcpe.fc.hp.com       AMA#540813  COHVCO  '81 CB750F-Llamaha 
We don't stop riding because we careen through a llama ranch and burst into
flames, we stop riding because the damn bike's torn down for servicing. 
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: lisa@alex.com (Lisa Rowlands)
Subject: new
Organization: Alex Technolgies Ltd
Apparently-To: mail2news@news.demon.co.uk
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:12:12 +0000


Hello

I am new to the Internet, and I was wondering if anyone can recommend
a garage in the West London area that will service my bike without
ripping me off.

Thanks in advance

Lisa Rowlands
lisa@alex.com

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: I won? (NOT!)
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:52:36 GMT

In article <viking.718435719@vincent2.iastate.edu> viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
|
|	Just so you know, insurance is a scam where you pay to
|be victimized.  If you have none of my previous rantings on the
|subject, ask me for an accident report.

You forgot to mention that in most (all?) states the mandatory
insurance laws make it a government-mandated (and therefore
government subsidized) scam.  (Of course, the laws don't work
in the way that they are meant to, seeing that I am also 
required to carry uninsured motorist insurance).

Just a nice libertarian thought.  :-)

Dave Svoboda (rubis@gagme.chi.il.us)        | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Looking up!)              |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!)              |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905      DoD #0330    COG 939        |   -- Evo Woman
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: Harley Outperforms ZX11, Film at Eleven
Summary: flamewar strikes again
Keywords: flames spooge yes no maybe
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 15:13:27 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.231505.28430@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> car377@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (charles.a.rogers) writes:
>In article <1992Oct10.141032.16234@husc3.harvard.edu>, zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) writes:
>> In article <1992Oct10.060211.22370@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
>> car377@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (charles.a.rogers) writes:
>> >OK, prove that *any* inline-four will go 185,000 miles and require nothing
>> >more than a top-end job and a cylinder honing to put it back on the street.   
>>This capability has been demonstrated and documented where Evos are concerned.  
>> >I doubt you'll find that it's true of any sport bikes.
>> 

* * *   [  about 130 lines of "yes it does / no it doesn't" deleted  ]   * * *
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I thought rec.moto.harley was invented for this type of verbal spooge ???

Charlie Smith
From: harmons@.WV.TEK.COM (Harmon Sommer)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Flame Bait (was: Re: Drag racing)
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:33:24 GMT

Reply-To: harmons@mithril.WV.TEK.COM (Harmon Sommer)
Followup-To: 
Distribution: usa
Organization: /usr/ens/etc/organization
Keywords: 

>|>>"Victimless crime" is an oxymoron.
>|>Not true.  Smoking dope is a victimless crime, many times.
>|I wonder if the people who care for crack babies would agree with you.
>  Dope USUALLY means marijuana, NOT cocaine derivatives.  The comment about
>crack babies is totally non-sequitor.

For the latter part of this  century one of the slang meanings of
"dope" is to represent a collection of substances which include marijuana,
opium, cocaine, heroin.

Webster Collegiate defines dope .. a narcotic preparation (such as opium or
heroin).

Webster New Int'l includes dope .... habit forming drugs, as cocaine .... .

In our society today we find:
	Marijuana is the hallucigen of choice
	Ethyl Alcohol is the central nervous system depressant of choice
	Nicotine is the toxin of choice
	Caffeine is the stimulant of choice 
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr)
Subject: Re: I won? (NOT!) (really DoD pets)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 18:22:38 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
Keywords: Personal to Jack Waters II

In article <1992Oct12.160735.2722@news.columbia.edu> twang@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Tony Wang) writes:
>Your ignorance is showing!!!

>	Try "Asian", it doesn't piss us off as much.

Why should we give a damn about pissing you off, Tony?

>>Moo Goo Gui Cat
>	 ^^^
>	1) That should have been spelled "gai".
>	2) If you had bother to find out something about Chinese, you
>would have realized that "Gai" means "chicken" in Cantonese. Which
>makes your example a little silly.

Why should we give a damn about his grammar? Or yours?

>>Sweet & Sour Cat
>
>	Not a true Chinese dish. Created strictly for the American market.

Oh bullshit, Tony...It's a cantonese dish. Certainly the recipe
changed somewhat, but the lines of derivation are pretty clear.
oops, might be Pekinese. Oh, sorry, that would be Beijingese
nowadays, wouldn't it? Who cares.

>>General Tso's Cat
>>:')  (Actually, I really like cats)
> ^^^
>	Some jibes can't be covered by a smiley, and this is one of them.
>
>	Get this racist-third-world-cuisine-cat-eating bullshit off
>the net, you stupid-too-ignorant-to-be-a-good-racist newbie you.

Collect a clue, a sense of humour, and a dose of tolerance. Last 
time I checked "Free Speech" was still considered an essential
human right. You don't have to like what he has to say, Tony,
and obviously you don't...But for crissakes just send him
email, okay? Your stupid "Racist DickSizeWars" will only piss
off a whiole bunch of people, whilst solving nothing.

And buy a real bike. Viragoes suck.

Regards, Charles
DoD 0.001
RZ350


-- 
Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of
separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
gourd. --Unknown net.person
From: jlp@blink.att.com (Jon Peticolas(x7058))
Subject: Re: ----> J.C. Whitney stuff ?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:55:31 GMT

jwg0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOHN WALTER GEWARTOWSKI) writes:

>How does everyone feel about the quality of J.C. Whitney stuff?  The prices
>are sure good.  Did anyone ever get burned with something they bought from
>them?  Is there any product I should stay away from because of poor quality?
>-- 

I've had reasonable luck with Whitney. Mostly with VW Bug stuff though.
One thing to check is the shipping costs to your area. They're pretty
high to NJ. Since the shipping is based on what you're spending you
can calculate a rough percentage and apply it the prices in the catalog. 
This tends to make them look a touch less competitive.
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From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Which side do you mount up from?
Date: 15 Oct 1992 13:59:54 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 10754@athena.cs.uga.edu, weaver@castor.cs.uga.edu (Mike Weaver) writes:
>
>As I was mounting up to ride to work the other day, my wife made the comment
>that I got on the bike on the same side as was proper to mount a horse.

You come up behind it and put your hooves on its back?!?!   :^)

>Further thought lead to the conclusion that I mount from the left because
>that is the side that the side-stand is on.

True, it is leaning to the left, so it would be pretty hard to pick it
up from the right!  Also, applying the front brake while mounting by
reaching across seems somehow more natural than grabbing the lever on
the same side.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: 1965 Triumph Bonneville
Date: 16 Oct 92 08:16:17 PDT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <1992Oct15.185916.3725@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU (Michael Johnson) writes:
> 
> Will the noise every end? 

can you say "eat shit" michael l. johnson? 

please feel free to write my postmaster and complain about all the
fucking dirty motherfucking goddam curses being posted from this site.

> --
>       Michael L. Johnson
>       mlj8e@virginia.edu
-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
--
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Stupid Questions
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 00:33:10 GMT

osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) writes:

>In no particular order, here are some things I've been wondering about...

>1.  Why don't Cagiva, Aprilla, Gilera, Triumph, Norton, Royal Enfield,
>    Jawa, or CZ sell bikes in the US?

The same reason none of the wonderful Japanese 2-strokes are sold in the
US. Someone up there hates me. :-)

>4.  What will happen if I try to run my BMW on 70-octane gasoline?

The Big Bang.

>6.  What was the ugliest motorcycle ever produced?  (New, not ratted out.)

Suzuki RE-5, Space Cadet Version.
Honda CX-500, the first couple of years with the BatBike headlight nacelle.
Any Honda with ComStar wheels (special exemption for the CBX).


>8.  How are New Mexico, Colorado, Arizona, Nevada, Utah for riding in
>    the winter (Dec/Jan)?

Winter in Utah? COLD. The Salt Lake valley is often buried under thermal
inversions so the valley is murkey and cold, while the ski resorts are
sunny and 20 degrees warmer. TANJ! It snows regularly, but they do a
good job of getting the streets cleared. Motorcycling would be a risky
business because of black ice though. I once did a 270 spin into a guard
rail in my old truck on what looked to be a perfectly clear, dry road.
It was coated with a thin film of invisible ice. The spin was fun
enough, but it was seeing the semi with locked wheels coming at my stuck
truck that really got my heart pumping!

My little brother did ride his bike every day but one, one winter (he
almost got a speeding ticket Christmas eve!). But he droppped it a
couple of times in the snow.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: calling mature riders
Date: 13 Oct 92 13:29:07 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: usa
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH


MADIF@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com (Jim Foster) writes:

>Well, I'm not very mature, but I've ridden with guys that are.  One guy I
>ride with is in his 60's.  He has a BMW K100RS and a Honda CBR900RR.  You'd
>be amazed at how fast and smooth a rider he is.  I don't have a chance of
>keeping up with him on either bike.  A few of years ago he had a heart
>attack.  His doctor told him he'd have to give up motorcycles for good.  He
>was back riding in six weeks and hasn't missed a Sunday ride in four years.

This seems to be the typical cardiologist's reaction.  Mine said
the same thing (no, I didn't listen).  We agreed that I probably
shouldn't drop the bike too often (lifting it back up is nothing
I want to do), but then, it's never been my plan to drop
the bike often.
-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
                              DoD # 0698
From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: The Lockheed Star FB-750 (fighter bike
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: 15 Oct 1992 17:00:17 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62003.student.cwru.edu

In article <1bjtlkINN46r@sixgun.East.Sun.COM>, egreen@east.sun.com (Ed
Green - Pixel Cruncher) wrote:
> 
> You can buy a similar device that covers one eye.  Developed for
> Apachie Helecoptor pilots, I think.  Steven Roberts pumps an IBM CGA
> display into one, to read news while bicycling.

Last thing I read about them said you could pump EGA through them too.
rec.motorcycles.star-wars anyone? :-)

| Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834 | DoD #207  AMA #573534|
| Case Western Reserve U. Computer E. and Sci.  | KotNML  /  KotB      |
| "You can lead the house to order, but you     | '81 CB750C           |
| can't make it think"  -William Weld (Gov. Ma.)| '88 Bianchi Limited  |
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Make Your Own (was: Re: Electric Vests)
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:18:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Oct13.151819.17151
Organization: Washington State University

In article <1992Oct13.133907.13962@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>meb4593@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com (Michael Bain) writes:
>>cel@nsscmail.att.com (clayton EDward LEIHY iii) writes:
>
>>>has a very detailed article by a gentlemen (read Non-DoD'er) who
>>>made his own.  He includes illustrations as well as procedures to
>>>compute how much of what kind of wire you'll need, how to attach
>>>it, and how to regulate it.  Says he saved a lot of money by wiring
>>>up an existing vest.
>
>>Is this something you could post, for those of us that don't get this
>>mag?  (and I don't think it is available at the local moto store).
>>(envisioning an electric aerostich from neck to ankle ...)
>
>If you like the idea of homebrew, ask Ed Hackett who made his vest.

Speaking of Hackett, has anyone seen or heard from him since the GPNDG?

I'm not sure he even made it home.  Have I missed any of his posts?
Is it lambing season in Nevada?

Ride Free,

Bill
________________________________________________________________
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AMA #500924   DoD #00314   WMTC #0002  SR= 3.0
Yamabeemer fjgs1200pdr100 740GLE  KotV KotRR KotD #0001  :-)
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From: mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU (Michael Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Mechanic type question
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:57:40 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <Oct.15.10.19.54.1992.14295@pilot.njin.net> csc@pilot.njin.net (Sean Casey) writes:
>If a bike isn't developing power, and one spark plug (of two) is
>fouling with carbon deposits, what would you suspect? It's a '79 KZ750
>twin. I'm thinking maybe a mixture problem, but I'd like to know if
>anyone has any suggestions before I start seriously tinkering with the
>carbs (I have a service manual). The problem developed practically
>overnight, which has me scratching my head. 
>
>Sean

Check the compression.  I bet your engine in low on compression on the
cylinder that is fouling the plugs.  I think that you need new
pistol rings and probably a bore job with new pistons also.


--
      Michael L. Johnson
      mlj8e@virginia.edu
From: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: WANTED:INTERCEPTER 500
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:06:13 GMT
Organization: Computervision Corp., Bedford, Ma.

In article <1992Oct10.211011.11875@nmr-z.mgh.harvard.edu> shinh@nmr-z.mgh.harvard.edu (Shinjiro Hirose) writes:
>I know we're not supposed to flame spelling, but is it so hard to 
>spell "INTERCEPTOR"?
>               ^^^

Naaahhhh, no harder than plopping one's bike in the mud 8-)...


Rich Bemben - DoD #0044                     rbemben@timewarp.prime.com
Back in the saddle - BONNE'S ALIVE          (617) 275-1800 x 4173
The street giveth and the street taketh away - Catmother
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From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: DOG FOOD (was RE: Who harasses whom?)
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:39:10 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <92289.201412JDR118@psuvm.psu.edu> JDR118@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>Brice Dowaliby writes:
>>Of course, who know what the hell a dog hears?  I mean, they eat
>>dog food - does it taste different to them or does it taste
>>the same to them as it does to us and they enjoy it?
>
>Gee Brice, whats your favorite brand of dog food?  Perhaps we should start
>the Denizens of Dogfood and you could be the head taste tester!!!

The Devourers of Dogfood.

arf!
-- 
=============================================================================
Neal Howard   '91 XLH-1200      DoD #686      CompuTrac, Inc (Richardson, TX)
=============================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer)
Subject: Re: Harley attitudes and other bikes
Originator: markk@sparcplug
Keywords: Buell
Reply-To: markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer)
Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:53:24 GMT

In article <21228@drutx.ATT.COM>, klf@druwa (FranklinKL) writes:
>I've noticed that many of my friends, who are fanatic Harley people
>rave about the Buell, usually referring to it as a "Buell Sportster".
>Now let's think about this a minute folks.  To these screaming
>Harley fanatics, a Buell is a Sportster.  Never mind that a Buell
>consists of a bare handfull of Harley arts, the most notable of which
>is the engine (which Buell modifies heavily, btw).  

Buell does not modify the sportster engines they put in their bikes.
They are bone stock - even the air cleaner which Buell would have
preferred to replace with something less obtrusive.  Buell could not
afford to put a modified motor through the EPA approval tests (this
costs the company a *bundle*).  

--
)V(ark)<               markk@tcs.com                   DoD #400
1988 FZR400            1985 ZX900 Ninja             1977 RD400D
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Aerostitch Suit SOLD
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:42:06 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <1992Oct16.152402.607@HQ.Ileaf.COM> grw@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gary Wasserman) writes:
>
>
>Thanks for all the interest.  The suit is sold.

Ohmigod!  Did I miss the deadline for the raffle?
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: asper@sbctri.sbc.com (Alan E. Asper)
Subject: Ignore - a test
Organization: Southwestern Bell Technology Resources, St.Louis, MO
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 13:16:02 GMT

Sorry, everybody.

Alan
From: cs20+@andrew.cmu.edu (Catherine Barbara Saum)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: '73 CL450 FOR SALE
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:24:45 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

'73 CL 450
Dual overhead cams
Dual exhaust
Front and rear drum brakes
New points
New battery
Custom "monkey bars" 
LOW miles; 5,300
Custom painted tank ("carved" from genuine walnut ;-) 
Sissy bar.
Clymer manual

 Real clean
$450

Cathy 
****************************************************
Cathy Saum "Ouisey"....V.P. Carnegie Mellon Riding Club
3404 Juliet St.....................cs20+@andrew.cmu.edu.
Pgh, PA 15213.....'73 Honda CL450 (custom wooden tank)
(412) 683-6454.............'64 1/2 Mustang (351 V8) 
.......................(hopefully soon) Yamaha SECA 
****************************************************
"Go dat vay real vast. If something gets in your vay, turn."
					- Better Off Dead
From: tgrupe@watnxt11.ucr.edu (Todd E. Grupe)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: rec.moto.tech
Date: 10 Oct 92 01:25:03 GMT

In article <1asuanINNrgt@bigboote.WPI.EDU> ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi  
Narayan - Mick) writes:
> 
> 
> 	hi all,
> 
> 	the idea of a rec.moto.tech sounds good to me too. i am not a
> 	great wiz at moto tech stuff :( but i like reading such
> 	articles. i still love the usual rec.moto noise, but a lesser
> 	noise, tech-oriented group sounds fun.

	Absolutely.  The tech discussion needs to be separated from the  
eternal flaming and opinion wars so that those of us that need to get  
something *done* can do it.  I could have used tech advice when I started  
rebuilding my 440LTD engine a month ago.  I think there are enough  
free-time mechanics hanging around here with nothing better to do.  

Opinions, support , flames, etc. -- what do others think?

TG   DoD#4043
--
tgrupe@watserv.ucr.edu

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: delilah@next09epsl.wam.umd.edu (Romeo DeVerona)
Subject: Re: Can't trigger traffic lights
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:14:02 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.160454.1090@rd.hydro.on.ca> jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca  
(Jody Levine) writes:
> In article <1992Oct2.184106.270@pages.com> bigdog!jon (Jon Wright)  
writes:
> >trigger; as they get older and the successive years of expansion and  
contraction breaks the brittle wire coils, the  
> >detection capabilities of these puppies deteriorates.  I've heard that  
complaints to the special number the city  
> 
> The coils work by running current around a loop and looking for a drop
> in the current. If the coils break, the thing is broken (most likely in
> in the 'turn on every cycle' mode) not just deteriorated. If they don't
> work for you it's because they're not adjusted properly and you should 
> complain to the city, as the poster said.
> 
question: what do you do in a situation where you can't "run it"? last  
night, i was visiting some friends in a nearby apartment complex, and  
stayed late; for securtiy, the place was completely fenced in, and at  
night, they had electronic gates closed; keycard access from outside,  
electronic triggered from the inside. except, i couldn't trigger them. i  
didn't know my friend's phone or apartment numbers (we went in together,  
new apartment) and the complex office was closed. luckily, after a mere 5  
minutes or so, a car came in and i was able to leave by the "in" gate.  
still, i wonder... what recourse would i have had i been stuck all night?
(maybe i should charge the complex w/ attempted kidnapping..)
comments? suggestions?

-D-