From: brunner@kazoo.ssd.loral.com (Brian Brunner)
Subject: Re: Sex and RPG's - Why Oh Why ?
Reply-To: brunner@kazoo.ssd.loral.com (Brian Brunner)
Organization: Space Systems/Loral
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 08:18:39 GMT

In article <9570.29E25090@ofa123.fidonet.org>,
Kay.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Kay Shapero) writes:
!!On <Apr 06 01:07>, Brian Brunner wrote to All:
!! BB>Sometimes we would join the "house" game,
!! BB>sometimes they played our games with us.
!! BB>No absolutes implied here...
!! BB>but would YOU play "Barbie: The Role Playing Game"?
!! BB>Or "The House that Wouldn't Stay Clean"?
!!
!!No thanks - I have to deal with that last one in the REAL world...  
!!(Seriously - if you really are of the belief that just because women have
!!usually gotten stuck with the cleaning up that we really LIKE to do so
!!kindly disabuse yourself at once.  If you don't believe me, we shall
!!pause while you take one fishing, then tell her she has to clean all the
!!catch.  OK, get that trout out of your nose and let's continue this
!!post...)  :->

You point is taken, thou preachest at the choir, and the test would
fail... my wife LIKES cleaning trout... hates cleaning house... we
share that... and due to the 5.5 kids I live in "The House That Won't
Stay Clean".
Most guys & gals won't touch FRPs. Most who do aren't on the net.
So we are a minority of a minority. I expect the anectdotes to run
counter to the generalization... we are, after all, the exceptions here!
BTW "The House..." is a CoC senario.

!!
!! BB>for most of us guys, "Doctor" is as close as we're willing
!! BB>to get to playing a game we played with girls.
!!
!!OTOH, I played a lot of war games with my fellow kids of both sexes way 
!!back when.  It's not universal.

Agreed totally... it is not universal, and I have nearly as many
female co-gamers as male... Oh Cthulhu, here I go sounding sexist
again (I ain't even sexy, let alone sexist... You there with the
flamer... go away and rent a clue) but a big part of the reason
for this is I am in a family... most of the gamer guys are single, and
have no patience when Shadowrun gets clobbered with Pottyrun.
The gals (all but one are mothers) have more patience and under-
standing on this. They stayed. The guys went. I'm alone with
these gal players... no complaints.

!!
!!OK - I'd say from what I've read and heard in here that the big problem
!!is that the hobby is no longer new, and has long since moved into the
!!niche held by wargaming in high school.  Where sex roles are heavily
!!segregated (no matter what they tell you) and enforced by the general
!!tendency of teenagers to be simultaneously going through a number of
!!physical and emotional changes and terrified that other teenagers will
!!notice, so that they try desperately to appear like all the others.

Yah hoo, amen. Groan.

[ other astute observations and worthwhile recommendations
agreed with and deleted for brevitys' sake. ]

Thanx for the chat.

!!Kay Shapero
!!Internet: Kay.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
!!Compuserve: >internet:Kay.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org

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