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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:37:12 EDT
From:         Tim Johnson <ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Is there Anybody Listening?

Lenny"mental giant"W says:
>>No apologies here IMHO your post and Queensryche is trash and anyone who
>>doen't get off on blues is void of feelings and misunderstands the meaning
>>of music. Please remove me from your Christmas card list. Thanks L.W.

Gary"metal giant"G responds:
>So what you are saying is this: Blues is the best kind of music in the world,
>because you like it. If any of us lesser people don't like it (blues) then
>we have no feelings and misunderstand the meaning of music. (a much much
>broader term). Anything that you don't like is trash.

Tim"meal giant"J (so, it doesn't seem to make much sense, but it
fits the sequence.  maybe I just eat a lot, okay?) clarifies:

Gary, you have to learn to read between the lines.  He isn't really
saying "Blues is the best...etc..."  What he *is* really saying is
"Man, I just realized again how phenomenally stupid I am, and wanted
to share the fact with the entire membership of the list."
Perspective helps, Gary; someone has to fill the tail of the
distribution curve.

                                 -Tim

OMC:  I was with all of the seventies rejects Friday night in
      Boston at the Orpheum for yet another tour by the not quite
      yet too old to rock and roll Ian Anderson and the boys of
      Tull who (just how long will this run on run till this run
      on is all done?) dug deep into their history and played
      heavily from "This Was" and (of course) "Aqualung" and
      only treated us to two post 70's songs, one of which was
      fairly passable, the other of which had all the under 15
      crowd shaking to the music, though the under 15 crowd was
      not particularly well represented at the show, compared to
      those who know Thick as a Brick (the encore of the two and
      a half hours of music) beyond the radio edit - also recognizable
      as the ones who stood up to shake their fists during "My God" -
      and shouted for "One White Duck" which the band, alas, failed
      to play for us, though "Someday the Sun Won't Shine for You"
      and "Beggar's Farm" almost made up for it.  Okay, I ran out
      of steam.  Any other listers there?
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From:         Rick <MMLRICK@UBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: orb
              1 Oct 1992 00:19:14 GMT from <mjbrown@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>

Mike Brown's true confession:
>But I think it is pretty lame to judge the quality of music based on how it
>is being made rather than how it sounds.  I don't care if monkeys making
>farting noises under their armpits release an album.  If it sounds neat,
>I'll listen to it.
>
Great! All those hours of holding that microphone in front of the chimp cage
at the Buffalo Zoo in sub-zero weather are going to pay off after all!! They
said I was insane, but thanks to people like Mike I'll be RICH and FAMOUS!!!
But send your money before midnight tonight, because the Western New York
Primate Armpit Serenaders' new album, A Birthday Salute to Johnny Mathis
and Gene Autry, is now available in limited supplies only! Operators are
now standing by!! Hurry!

Can I interest you in a tape of rhinos regurgitating?
Rick
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 09:00:37 EDT
From:         jcs <GE777009@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Announcement

>Posted on 1 Oct 1992 at 08:24:20 by AISARMSTRONG%IST%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
>
>re: Re: Announcement
>
>Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 08:23:02 EDT
>Reply-To:     Discussions on all forms of Music <ALLMUSIC@AUVM.BITNET>
>From:         AISARMSTRONG%IST%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
>
>Since its all over.  The CMA awards is what I was talking about.  I hope that
>all turned in to see Acky Breaky Heart get Single of the Year.

i have two words for you all on the cma awards.

big  hair.

Oh and let us not forget that the people who vote for these
award things aren't musicians themselves.  In fact, these are
the same kinds of people who voted for Milli Vanilli and voted
Jethro Tull as Metal Band.

jcs
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:40:01 PDT
From:         David Malbuff <SPGDAM@UCCVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Columbia, the Gem of the Ocean

Another thing about Columbia House is, they send their mailers out once every
three weeks or so. People tend to get paid once a month or twice a month or
once every two weeks, so this oddball little schedule they have guarantees
that your mailers will come just a bit more frequently than your regular bills,
thereby increasing the likelihood that you'll "forget" about one or two every
year, and presto! Here's the CD you "ordered" (by doing nothing) and whoa!
here's the bill. Multiply once a twice a year by the number of members in the
club, and you can see that we all are in the wrong business. ;-)

David
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:48:24 EST
From:         Ilia <CC29@IONA.BITNET>
Subject:      Progressive

Well, I don't know anything about ELP visiting Russia, although I doubt
that it happened. To tell the truth, I heard very few albums by ELP,
mostly their old staff.

I am interested in various projects that were done by people from the
progressive bands. For example, I think around '68 there was a band
called 'Giles, Giles, and Fripp' and they recorded one or two albums.
It would be interesting to find out what those people did before their
famous albums. I would also like to get some info on 'Gentle Giant'.
That's a band that I like a lot, but know very little about.


Sonia, that's awesome! Otkuda ti znayesh russkiy yazik? How is Ohio?

     Ilia.
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:22:44 PDT
From:         Mike Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Michael Lehnertz

Hey what happened to this guy lately?
You know, "Drummer"?

Did he hear about the news about Jeff Porcaro, that
it wasn't insecticides that did him in, but rather a bad case
of cocaine addiction?  No wonder he was so agile...

So much for your drum God, Mike.

I can never condone the use of such drugs.
Really stupid.

 3
M
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 07:58:49 EDT
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: mixed nuts

On Thu, 1 Oct 1992 10:54:50 MDT Maid in Bedlam said:
>Ken sed:
>
>>>
>>>:-) 8  >----|
>>
>>If I may suggest:
>> :-) B  >----|
>>
>>Must keep symmetry, after all.
>
>While your scheme presents more volume, my scheme has a more youthful perky
>bestowal.  :)  As far as symetry goes, on my terminal, it appears that you're
>depiction has one bigger than the other.  :)
>
I guess this only goes to show that beauty is in the eye of the B-holder :-)
>
>I didn't get to see any of it... I saw something better, namely, 2 teams of
>heavily equipped men beating the crap out of each other on ice (ie. the hockey
>player dragged me to a game).  blah...
>
Ah yes, you went to a fight and a hockey game broke out. . . .
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: Albert Ayler
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:16:31 GMT

In article <9210051528.AA04554@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU> writes:
>Ayler)... was changing my frame of reference from "listener" to projecting the
>music as if it was coming directly from ME--you know, the way those nice old
>paranoid schizophrenics hear voices?  It was a great way to listen ...  I
>could hear some of the "thrashing around" in the music with a lot more
>sympathy... Instead of being indignant that some nice finished "listenable"
>product was not being offered for my "listening enjoyment," I found myself more
>in the spirit of being PART of the band (scuse the arrogance) in terms of
>feeling what they were TRYING to say... Also funny that the more I listen the
>less "compacted" it sounds--more space seems to be opening up between the
>parts; this is very much like learning a new language which at first is just
>undifferentiated sound and then parts start to jump out and MEAN something...

heheh, reminds me of a record by Alan Silva, Bobby Few, Frank Wright,and
Mohammed Ali, of which Silva, Few, and Ali have all played with Ayler.
(And Frank Wright is an Ayler-sounding sax player)

The name of the record is "Center Of The Universe".

Jeff
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Subject: Re: "SOME GAVE ALL"
Organization: LOUISIANA TECH UNIVERSITY
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 92 10:26:42 CST

In article <921001.08455768.009250@USM.CP6>
THERESA BLACKWELL <TBLACKWL@USMCP6.BITNET> writes:
 
>
>SOMEONE ANSWER A QUESTION FOR ME:
>Did MICHAEL W. "SMITTY" SMITH play KEYBOARDS for some dude
>on the CMA awards last night????
>I've known that he played for Amy Grant for 8 years, but
>"Smitty", goin' COUNTRY????
>Hard to take.  I can see him doin' Rock, but COUNTRY?
>Gimme a break.
 
Michael W. Smith did in fact play keyboards in Steve Wariner's band and
sang part of a verse of a Steve Wariner song.  Other celebrities in the
band:  Leroy Parnell (slide guitar), Mark O'Conner (fiddle), Delbert
McClinton (harmonica).
 
Mike James (US30139@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU)
From: ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET (Leonard Watkins)
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On Mon, 5 Oct 1992 08:48:44 PDT Mike Masuda said:
>Leonard,
>
>You don't have to be cocky to be a good singer.
>The thing you should keep in your mind onstage is that you are up there
>to entertain the audience, not to show off.
>
>Being cocky IMHO takes away from the entertainment value of the show,
>and from the general repoire you create with your band.
>
>Think of the audience--would they want you to be cocky?  Would you want to
>see someone be cocky onstage?
What i mean by cocky is stage presence SRV was a gentlemen off stage put him
onstage and he's in your face playing Same for most of the greats Jimi was
the same way so Cocky was a bad choice of words, but I still can't think of
another. I mean i want to say hey i'm the man here (when the time comes),
just like i would want the bass,drummer harp player to have the same attitude
onstage...I mean if you don't believe it the audience sure won't.
and MY singing is a lost cause, we gotta get a singer ..period
Thanks for the advice i'll keep singing until we find someone, the harp player
wants to use this attractive female, who does sing good, but i don't like
the idea of a blues band with an female singer, attractive female groupie
but not not singer......Thanks again L.W.
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From:         "OUT,
              OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      So, Us...

Paul Hosken says about the last Gabriel:

>       To sum up, US is very NICE, comfortable and great value for money
>       (over an hour long). But, it's not 'vital' music - it's sofa music!
>       This stuff isn't gonna change the world - try comparing any of the
>       tracks here with...ummm...well, the Wailer's 'Simmer Down' for
>       example. For me there's no contest, the urgency of 'Simmer Down'
>       knocks spots off US. Someone on the list said that the album had a
>       'wooly' feel to it - I agree totally, like your favourite old wooly
>       jumper - warm and comforting. I used to love PG's music right from
>       the opening bars of 'Trespass', and have seen him/them many times
>       live, and consider myself a fan of his music. But, this album just
>       doesn't tread any new ground.

        My idea is that the album actually kicks. But it kicks in slow-mo.
I mean, a song like "Washing Of The Water" will never be used to start a
riot, but I'd be careful sitting on the sofa with it... :)
        The album is fairly subtle, I think: if you listen to the music -
aah, perfect: you can sleep with it. If you dig in the lyrics (several of
them, not all) things start to change a bit, because I wouldn't say that
"Kiss That Frog" or "Blood Of Eden" or even "Digging In The Dirt" are *so*
sofa-like.
        The other point is that Gabriel hasn't been treading new grounds
since 1982, in my opinion. "So" was a good album, but what about the previous
one (IV / Security, I mean, not Birdy)? Subsequent experimentations with
ethnic sounds and all the rest simply confirm a thread which was well esta-
blished in the years from 1980 to 1982.
        If ever, the album treads a new ground *lirically*, since it's the
most open, understandable and honest that Gabriel has written.
        And (I've been wondering about this a lot!), you all: you were in
the position of a man who will probably sell several millions of records,
would you have the stomach to put your wife's and your lover's names toge-
ther in the "thanks" section? Isn't this a show of inner nakedness, after all
(cool yourself Carol! :) ).
        I personally wouldn't do it, for several obvious reasons. It's a very
important key to the album. Snakes and ladders allowing, of course... :)

        Ciao, Marco
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 11:52:00 EST
From:         gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL
Subject:      Top 5 Lead Vocalists!!!!!!

>Since people have been doing favorite guitarists I've decided
>to do singers as well:
> 1.Bill Champlin {One of my favorite musicians{singer,songwriter{2 grammy}
>                        guitarist,keyboards,producer)
> 2. David Coverdale { oHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh  YEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!}
>                        one of the most incredible rock voices!!!}
> 3. Peter Cetera { Excellent Singer very harmonious and knows how to use
>                   his voice welll!!!    Bass Player,Songwriter,producer}
>
> 4. Jack Blades {LOve his stuff with nightranger and Damn Yankees!!!!
>                        bass,songwriter}
>
> 5. Jon Bon Jovi { familar singing style never really changes from album
>                to album but his good} guitar,songwriter

etc. etc.
                                                 ..
Dare I say you have never listened to any Queensryche? Cuz if you would've,
Geoff Tate would be on the top of your list.

Seeya,
Gary
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From:         THERESA BLACKWELL <TBLACKWL@USMCP6.BITNET>
Subject:      Ok...

Smitty still remains one of my favorite Contemporary Christian
keyboardists... he played for Amy (Grant) for 8 years before
he went solo... Just wonderin'...Thanks, Mike!
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 11:52:43 EDT
From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Now where were we ?

On Fri, 25 Sep 1992 12:20:00 CDT Just say no to F*m*ly V*l**s said:
>First, for Walt who's in search of a name for his band:
>
>   There's a band that plays locally called Blind Willie's Johnson.  Probably
>my alltime favorite band name there.  Since you're a blues band, you might
>want to do some takeoff on a bluesman's name.  You know ... Blind Lemon
>Pledge or something ...
>
Back during the wilder days of my mis-spent youth, I used to put on an old
Fedora, a pair of black-rimmed sunglasses, grab my J-series Gibson, and perform
Da Bluuz under the moniker "Colorblind James."
>
>
>>Date:         Thu, 24 Sep 1992 16:23:22 EDT
>>From:         Rick <MMLRICK@UBVM.BITNET>
>>Subject:      Re: JOHN WILLIAMS
>>
>>
>>Scott's barrel o' BTWs:
>>
>>>BTW, does anyone know who did the score for _Once Upon A Time in America_?
>>>Its absolutely haunting and wonderful!
>>
>>         Also Morricone, no?
>
>   Yes, Morricone, but wasn't the flick entitled _Once Upon A Time In The
>West_??  Damn, there's another nit ... got him ...
>   BTW, anyone who has the slightest interest in Morricone's works should
>check out John Zorn's _The Big Gundown_ (hi Carol).  It features Zorn's
>arrangements of some of Ennio's stuff, as well as some interesting stuff in
>the liner notes about how Morricone worked.  Supposedly, he wrote the score
>for _O.U.A.T.I.T.W._ and then (Sergio Leone) created the movie to fit the
>score, rather than the other way around.  Personally, I love the score, and
>think the movie itself is hilarious (yes, *hilarious*).  No dialogue to speak
>of (and what there is is so "minimalist" as to be funny), but some tremendous
>closeups of the actors, great transitions between scenes, and wonderful
>pseudo-realistic sets.
>
I'm not sure we're talking about the same film here.  The one I'm speaking of
is definitely called _Once Upon a Time in America_, has Robert DeNiro and James
Woods in it, and is about a bunch of Jewish gangsters.

-Scott "No Longer Colorblind" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:22:38 PDT
From:         David Malbuff <SPGDAM@UCCVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      My lawyer can beat up your lawyer

On Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:13:12 EDT Michelle  said:
>Oh, Jesus. . .
>
>Can you guys get offa this blues thing?  Or take it over to private e-mail?
>Unless there are those allmusicers that like reading a juicy fight.  However,
>most of us can see that this is pointless--Leonard, however wrong he may be,
>thinks the blues is god, Gary thinks metal is god, and the Bloomster has
>another excuse to post 200-line entries on the net.  ENOUGH ALREADY!!

Amen, East being East, West West and all that...

>New thread:
>Can someone tell me if it's worth subscribing to the Columbia CD club?  You
>know, the one where you buy 10 CD's for a penny?  I know you have to buy more
>within a certain time frame; overall, is it worth it?  The CD prices run
>between $11 and $15--I'd kind of like the convenience of ordering by mail. . .
>

Yeah, it's kinda-sorta a good deal, if you have enough self-discipline to
send the postcard right back when you know you don't want the selection of the
month. Otherwise it languishes around the house, and you never get time to
pick a CD, and all of a sudden some top-40 teenybop techno-craze sensation
turns up in the mail and you gotta lug the thing down to the local used record
mart where a skinny skateboard freak with half his hair shaved off, lampblack
under his eyes and three nose rings gives you a dollar and fifty cent' credit
for it.

But I got ten free CDs out of it so it was a pretty good deal. ;-)

They've been trying to get a little more hip over there at ol' Columbia House
lately. I told them that their categories (rock, R&B, classical, lite, etc.)
were too confining. Coincidentally or not, a couple-three weeks later, they
send a new mailer out bragging about all the NEW categories they've created.
Mine is "Modern/Alternative Rock." Last month, the new hot selection was...
_Nevermind_, by Nirvana. I mean, these folks are seriously hip.

But I'm being too hard on 'em. Columbia House does have a large catalog, even
including some rare/hard to find stuff (they've got the Roky Erickson tribute
album, f'rinstance), and once or twice a year they send you a complete,
alphabetically-sorted list of everything they have. Plus you can get vinyl
(if you care) for like two bucks sometimes.

You do pay dearly for what you order. It averages about nineteen bucks a CD at
"regular prices", thanks to the shipping/handling charges, which are steep.

Once I'd paid off my required membership, I quit. They sent me a letter begging
me to come back.... and offered eight more free CD's if I'd sign up again,
same arrangement. Did I do it? I guess I did.

David
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 08:14:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      re: _Revenge of the Quackenbush Brothers_

Yesterday Seb asked about the SRC compilation album _Revenge of the
Quackenbush Brothers_, and I mentioned that the owner of my local
used record store (where I had purchased it) speculated that it was
a bootleg.  Well, when I got home last night, I checked my copy and
it does say it was licensed by EMI, so it appears to be a legitimate
release, albeit undoubtably an unprofitable one.  The liner notes
are amazingly detailed, tracing all of the band members back through
their earlier bands.  I wish all compilations and reissues took such
care.

To think that this is an English compilation of an obscure Ann Arbor MI
band...

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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SUB. JOHNSKAHILL
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