From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Re: Who Is Doctor Greenbaum?
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:33:45 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <92254.085848WCE2@psuvm.psu.edu>, <WCE2@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> I've been told that patients suffering from multiple personality disorder
> (MPD)and who subsequently recall being made to undergo Satanic ritual abuse
> (SRA) during childhood frequently mention a Dr. Green or Greenbaum as the
> person in charge of their torture.  Allegedly Dr. Greenbaum was a young
> Hasidic jew at the time of the Holocaust.  To save his skin, he agreed to
> collaborate with Nazis in the death camps.  Having a profound knowledge of
> the Cabala and also of brainwashing tactics, he developed a nearly foolproof
> way of programming children to commit sexual acts and then forget about
> them.  If exposure were ever threatened, programs installed in their brains
> would make former SRA patients self-destruct, either committing suicide or
> going completely crazy.

I want you to read a book. It's called _Satan Wants You_ by Arthur Lyons. He
doesn't talk about the specific cases you are referring to, but he does have a
nice discussion about the allegations that Satanists abuse little kids and
cause them to have multiple personality disorder.

The description you gave raises a lot of questions in my mind. How many
patients have actually mentioned Dr. Green? Who were they interviewed by? Did
the interviewers know about Dr. Green's supposed existence?

I don't think brainwashing can do that kind of thing to a person; this is
stretching the concept a tad far for me. Further, I don't think that a
"profound knowledge of the Cabala" would give anybody an advantage in
understanding the human mind (maybe the minds of other Cabalists, but not
ordinary people).

I also don't put a lot of faith into multiple personality disorder. I mean, it
exists, but I think it may be caused by the therapist rather than by some
incident in youth. Most psychiatrists and clinical psychologists would disagree
with me, but that's their problem.
 
> Supposedly Dr. Greenbaum was brought to the US after the war by the US
> military, and as brainwashing was seen as a valid weapon against the
> Commies, he was given free rein to practice on children in US military
> installations.  He apparently is still the kingpin of the secret SRA
> conspiracy in this country, with dozens of henchmen monitoring MPD patients and
>  keeping detailed records of their torture and programming in laptop
> computers.

In other words, these "Satanic rituals" are being commited by a Hasidic Jew,
with the support of the military. So, are they making it look Satanic in order
to get us in trouble? Or is somebody afraid of the government dreaming this up?
 
> OK, OK, I'm not convinced (though if I'd have sat in on the relevant
> fully accredited workshop at the 4th Annual Eastern Regional Conference on Abuse
> and Multiple Personality, I'd have gained 6 credit hours in Category 1 of
> the Physicians Recognition Award of the American Medical Association).
> And I'm aware of the influence of Ipcress-File-type movies and the old
> Svengali legends about women who are hypnotised for sex and scientists who
> are hypnotised and told to throw themselves in front of trains.
> 
> But who is this Dr. Green?

I'm glad to hear you are not so credulous as you sounded at first. I have major
doubts about the existence of this Dr. Green (of whom I have never heard
before). I suspect that one small group has gotten the idea that somebody is
out there and are seeing him everywhere. Happens sometimes. Did you know that
most therapists never see a MPD, while one may get two or three cases during
their career?
 
> Bill Ellis
> FOAFtale News
> Penn State, Hazleton

Incidentally, I am dismayed to hear what the AMA is up to. I can't believe they
are so irresponsible as to support these ideas without proof, if I am
interpreting your post correctly.

--Semhaza, Child of the Night
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