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From: stephenad@brt.deakin.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: Aus Jazz
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:55:16 GMT
Organization: Deakin University, Melbourne

In article <1992Sep8.064145.6852@mel.dit.csiro.au>, brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Sep8.042310.8562@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>, chuck@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Andrew Hawling) writes:
> |> Is there anybody out there who sees and listens to Australian jazz acts beyond the
> |> level of people such as James Morrison and Vince Jones. I'm always interested in
> |> new suggestions of people to see.
> 
> Paul Grabowsky teams up with interesting combinations of musicians which
> prove more interesting than the generally slicker studio recordings.
> 
> Last year he played with Ed Schuller (bass) Ian Chaplain (alto), Niko Shauble
> (drums) & some other dude on tenor sax.  Amazing gig.  They are supposed to
> have recorded some sessions for future relseases.
> 
> Livewise, Niko Shauble has an excellent band "Tibetan Dixie".  More your
> 'off the wall' jazz.
> If "Musikki Oy!" ever play again - go see them too.
> 
> brian
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The other dude on tenor sax was Tim Hopkins.
He can also be found playing with Ed Keupper, The Mike Nock Quartet and
is in the latest Vince Jones lineup.
He also appears in the Aints.

try checking out Mark Simmonds Freeboppers, Bernie McGann, Ian Chaplin,
Dale Barlow, The Necks, Free Spirits, Sandy Evan's bands including
Clarion Fracture Zone and Ten Part Invention...

Stephen.
From: teh@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Richie L C TEH)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: AUS Jazz/Rock/Fusion? Re:AUS JAZZ
Date: 9 Sep 92 00:53:19 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia


	Since someone asked about Australian Jazz. I was wondering is there
any Jazz/rock fusion bands around (Australian). The only one that I've heard
of, and really enjoy, is Loose Change (who have since split up). Any other bandswith similar style? Any recordings? Thanks in advance!


-- 
Richie   ( that's me....)
Newsgroups: aus.music
From: brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May)
Subject: Black Hole (was Re: Sequencers, guitars etc
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 06:56:42 GMT


In article <3087@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU>, cde@mulka (Colin Entwisle) writes:
|> 
|> 	I'd like to can the whole of your post, but
|> it actually included some sensible things - granted most of
|> them were quotes from my earlier post.
|> 	It was just too verbose to pin point my greivences,
|> but I felt bursts of anger throughout the reading of it.
|> 	Only specfic thing that stays in my mind is the comment
|> that bad guitar bands don't get airplay.
|> 	(probably cause it was one of the last you made)
|> 	Have a listen to comercial radio, and tell me what the
|> hell u2, farnam, barnsy, brathweight, etc are if not bad guitar bands.

"bad" in this case being your subjective opinion of personal taste.  
Hardly a convincing argument. I think he was referring to the bands being 
bad "technically".  If not, the same applies.

[more diatribe]

|> 	Oh and someone (name withheld) just told me that last week
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> someone was saying all this sort of arguement was juvenelle.

why keep us in 'suspense'?

|> Damn I wish I'd noticed that post - to see how mature people think.
|> Was it the guy from the ABC showband who writes in here sometimes
|> and seems pissed at the moment about people prefering to talk about this
|> than the far more sophisticated listing of favourite bands.

I would hope everyone reading the group appreciates talk about music which
doesn't rotate in ever decreasing circles whilst degenerating into an
out-and-out slanging match of "my music is better than yours" etc etc
arguments.

If you'd bother to think for a second I'm asking people to talk about their
'favourite' local music so that some more of it might be exposed to the 
audience of this group.  If you're opposed to that - then keep your mind 
locked up where it is.

Do you have anything constructive to say about music?  Please do.

You should read rec.music.industrial Colin, it is perfectly suited to you.

get thee to a life dispenser.

brian
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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: pearson_r@maths.su.oz.au (Robert Pearson)
Subject: Black Sorrows - new album?
Reply-To: pearson_r@maths.su.oz.au (Robert Pearson)
Organization: Mathematics, University of Sydney
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 01:41:16 GMT

     I have heard the new Black Sorrows single on the radio and like
it a lot (as I do all of their past material). 
     I imagine this is from their long-awaited new album. Can anyone 
confirm this ? Also does anyone know when their new album is due to be
released?
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Australia
From: cde@mulka (Colin Entwisle)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: Sequencers, guitars etc
Date: 8 Sep 92 03:32:54 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


	I'd like to can the whole of your post, but
it actually included some sensible things - granted most of
them were quotes from my earlier post.
	It was just too verbose to pin point my greivences,
but I felt bursts of anger throughout the reading of it.
	Only specfic thing that stays in my mind is the comment
that bad guitar bands don't get airplay.
	(probably cause it was one of the last you made)
	Have a listen to comercial radio, and tell me what the
hell u2, farnam, barnsy, brathweight, etc are if not bad guitar bands.
	Lets suppose you actually think otherwise and find some
value in knofflers and such (though I can't see how).  Listen to RRR
and you will here some extremely boring (in my mind) grunge bands
playing straight (2 x axe, and a bass) thrash.  Sure there are good
ones too.  Be a bit realistic.

	Oh and someone (name withheld) just told me that last week
someone was saying all this sort of arguement was juvenelle.
Damn I wish I'd noticed that post - to see how mature people think.
Was it the guy from the ABC showband who writes in here sometimes
and seems pissed at the moment about people prefering to talk about this
than the far more sophisticated listing of favourite bands.

				get funky monkey

					Colin


Newsgroups: aus.music
From: carl@ecr.mu.oz.au (Carl_Ivan BREWER)
Subject: Re: Sequencers, guitars etc
Organization: Dept. Engineering Computer Resources, Melbourne Uni.
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 06:57:07 GMT

In article <pet.716012315@munagin> pet@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (paul eng-yi tan) writes:
>carl@ecr.mu.oz.au (Carl_Ivan BREWER) writes:
>>>hell u2, farnam, barnsy, brathweight, etc are if not bad guitar bands.
>
>>IMHO they are good guitar bands.  They seem to sell a few records,
>>and have a few people go to their concerts too, so maybe I'm not 
>>alone in that opinion?
>
>Does Farnham write his own songs? Does he play the guitar on his recordings
>and on stage? Ditto Braithwaite? 

probably not,  (definatly not farnham), but then,  Farnham is just a 
singer, and that's hardly a good example.  Farnham isn't a guitar band,
he's just a voice (a good voice, but just a voice).
At least he sings live live,  so that's a saving grace !

>
>BTW Braithwaite and Farnham use quite a lot of synth and I think I heard
>a drum machine on Higher than hope or whatever that pseudo-stone roses
>intro song is called. Farnham's albums are full of fairlight if i remember
>correctly. Especially Whispering Jack. By Carl's own definition, that
>makes the music crap! 

no, not at all (even though I don't like it much!).  They do, however 
use real instruments as well as synths (but I'm not keen on the drum
machines ... )

>
>I don't think you can judge music by how much it sell, either. A lot of
>good music of the classical age was not championed until the composer himself
>was dead! During his life, his music was often not liked.

indeed, if I judged music like that, I'd have minogue, the 3 tenors,
that stupid bunch of male models who got the keys to the city etc ...
*YUK*

>
>If you are the kind of person who checks out the charts and buys #1,2 and 3
>on the basis that high sales = good music, then I guess you acknowledge that
>Michael Jackson is the best in the world because he's had the biggest ever
>sales for an album. Vanilla Ice is excellent. Groove is in the Heart is
>a brilliant song. etc.

hey, I liked groove is in my farts,  but I'd never buy it !! (or admit it!!)

the point was that these bands (esp U2, who I'm not a fan of, but respect)
are good in their style, and are (IMHO) good guitar bands.  I'm just 
demonstrating that a few people agree with me.  (not that popular opinion
means much, shit, Jeff Kennet's going to be in next ... :( !!)


>
>No, I don't think sales indicates good music.

not at all,  but it does indicate that people like the stuff.

>
>Seeyall! :) All the above is my opinion, of course. No flame. All to
>be taken with a liberal amount of salt and smileys

sent to the russian salt pits ?  :)

hey, you want to jam ?  :)


 Annal  Natrach, Usthvah Spethed,         carl@ecr.mu.oz.au (IRC: Bleve)
 Dochoel Dienve                           carl@munagin.ee.mu.oz.au
					  carl@montebello.ecom.unimelb.EDU.AU
 Merlin, where are you?  Call your dragon, to weave a mist...
Newsgroups: aus.music
From: edd151s@nella1.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr I.P. Rayner)
Subject: Roger Waters New CD
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:16:26 GMT


Well, now that Roger Waters' new CD, 'Amused To Death', has been released,
and I've had a chance to listen to it, I was wonderring what other people
out in the net-world thought of it.

Personally, I really like it!  But I could every so often hear echoes of his
previous work.  Example, the missile from   Final Cut, the dog from Radio
KAOS, some similar bits from the Wall.  

Well, what do you lot think (if any of you have heard it yet .. I know his new
single has been plyed on radio at least) ... ?

Ivan Rayner

Newsgroups: aus.music
From: robg@citr.uq.oz.au (Rob Geraghty)
Subject: Synth Music : Andrew Thomas Wilson
Summary: Oz - Tales from the Blue Ship
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 07:55:19 GMT

To all lovers of electronic music

(if you like Jarre, or Vangelis, you'll like this)

(maybe even if you don't!!:)

Have a listen to Andrew Thomas Wilson's CD

Oz : Tales from the Blue Ship

The CD hasn't been labelled properly - it has 12 tracks but the label
only shows 11.  Over 60 minutes of music!

This is the first really inspirational electronic music I have heard in
ages.

Rob
(of course it's my opinion - who else would want it? :)

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robg@durian.citr.oz.au               | Time, beckoning me
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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: Matthew Hall <mjhall@socs.uts.edu.au>
Subject: Ministry / Iron Maiden Tours ??
Organization: UTS Microcomputer Shop
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 07:06:17 GMT
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X-Xxdate: Tue, 8 Sep 92 17:11:50 GMT

OK folks,

I've been hearing rumours for a couple of weeks about tours in
October for these two bands.

Anyone have any solid info? (In particular the Sydney shows)

By now I would have expected ticket sales for at least the Iron Maiden shows,
(I mean I bought AC/DC tickets _months_ before their shows).

Any information will be greatly appreciated
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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: chuck@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Andrew Hawling)
Subject: Aus Jazz
Reply-To: chuck@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Andrew Hawling)
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 04:23:10 GMT

Is there anybody out there who sees and listens to Australian jazz acts beyond the
level of people such as James Morrison and Vince Jones. I'm always interested in
new suggestions of people to see.

chuck
Newsgroups: aus.music
From: carl@ecr.mu.oz.au (Carl_Ivan BREWER)
Subject: Re: Sequencers, guitars etc
Organization: Dept. Engineering Computer Resources, Melbourne Uni.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 04:03:17 GMT

In article <3087@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU> cde@mulka (Colin Entwisle) writes:
>
>	I'd like to can the whole of your post, but
>it actually included some sensible things - granted most of
>them were quotes from my earlier post.
>	It was just too verbose to pin point my greivences,
>but I felt bursts of anger throughout the reading of it.
>	Only specfic thing that stays in my mind is the comment
>that bad guitar bands don't get airplay.
>	(probably cause it was one of the last you made)
>	Have a listen to comercial radio, and tell me what the
>hell u2, farnam, barnsy, brathweight, etc are if not bad guitar bands.

IMHO they are good guitar bands.  They seem to sell a few records,
and have a few people go to their concerts too, so maybe I'm not 
alone in that opinion?

>	Lets suppose you actually think otherwise and find some
>value in knofflers and such (though I can't see how).  Listen to RRR
>and you will here some extremely boring (in my mind) grunge bands
>playing straight (2 x axe, and a bass) thrash.  Sure there are good
>ones too.  Be a bit realistic.
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
one could say exactly the same to you with a certain amount of
justification.  Besides, I happen to like 2 x axe, and a bass,
so do lots of people.  FYO, Crawdaddy is my favorite show on RRR ...
I guess that totally ruins my credibility, I not only play blues,
but I even *like* it!!  

>
>	Oh and someone (name withheld) just told me that last week
>someone was saying all this sort of arguement was juvenelle.

is it?  Why?  If it's juvenile to have an opinion, then shit, I'd
better get back to play-school ...


>Damn I wish I'd noticed that post - to see how mature people think.
>Was it the guy from the ABC showband who writes in here sometimes
>and seems pissed at the moment about people prefering to talk about this
>than the far more sophisticated listing of favourite bands.

I'd much prefer a good argument about something I'm interested in
than a list of record sales for a week, not that it doesn't have a place,
of course :)


>				get funky monkey

only if I can play slap bass  :)


 Annal  Natrach, Usthvah Spethed,         carl@ecr.mu.oz.au (IRC: Bleve)
 Dochoel Dienve                           carl@munagin.ee.mu.oz.au
					  carl@montebello.ecom.unimelb.EDU.AU
 Merlin, where are you?  Call your dragon, to weave a mist...
Newsgroups: aus.music
From: derbyc@tplrd.tpl.oz.au (Derby Chang)
Subject: Scratch CD's
Organization: Telectronics Pacing Systems
Distribution: aus
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 07:04:00 GMT

Idea for an invention:

Someone should make a CD jewel case just the right size to in slip those
cardboard envelopes they use for CD singles.  The singles envelopes are
just a little taller than the standard CD jewel case.  I've got so many
singles that are getting the scratchies I am getting worried :(


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From: dudleyh@redgum.ucnv.edu.au (Dudley Horque)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: Female voices are the best!!!
Date: 31 Aug 92 05:58:41 GMT
Organization: UCNV, Bendigo, Victoria, Australia

In article <1992Aug28.042139.27165@cc.uow.edu.au> stephen@cc.uow.edu.au (Stephen Nicholson) writes:
>	KaTe Bush, Tori Amos, Marie Brennan from Clannad,
>	Denney Stanway (from folk band Rua).
>	I also happen to quite like Michelle Shocked's voice.
>	Enya's voice is not outstanding, but still very nice.

Hey, there are plenty of great voices out there, but no-one seems to
listen unless they become popular (which has nothing to do with talent
I'm afraid).

Deborah Conway is doing well despite being very talented.
Robyne Dunn is another Australian performer with a very powerful voice,
I consider her "Labour of Liberty" album to be a classic.
Claire Hammil has a fantastic voice, and her album "Voices" is a unique
entry in the ambient/new age music group, as it features no instruments.

Cilla Black? Sorry, I'm getting silly now, though she has a mighty big
voice.

ciao4niao
Dudley
Newsgroups: aus.music,rec.music.misc
From: pet@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (paul eng-yi tan)
Subject: Re: Local bands & CD's
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 04:31:54 GMT

u6104701@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au writes:
>Shocktober was released last october, and has tracks from numerous shock label
>bands, violet town, ripe, the glory box, scarecrow tiggy?, the bradey bunch lawn

Hey, I know a guy who plays guitar for Ripe... He works in Gaslight and is
a really nice guy... anyhow, I listened to their CD and was sorry to say
that their style of music didn't really suit me. IMHO they would have done
well to keep the keyboards rather than go more guitarish, and perhaps a
little danciness to the beat wouldn't have hurt (see RatCat!). Anyway,
that's not relevant. What is, is that Ripe were signed to Polyester which
didn't treat them too well, and IMHO impeded their success. They refused
to release a CD for Ripe's album Filterfeed, which came out only on vinyl.
In this day and age, most indie bands release CDs, so that Filterfeed
business was a bad move. Anyway, Ripe have left Polyester and (as noted
above) they seem to be on Shock... Hope things go better, but as yet they
haven't reached the RatCat or Frente stage.

Re: local bands and CDs. Does someone have a comprehensive list of local
synth bands, contact numbers, members info, and a short description of
their style? I know there are quite a few, since I have seen a lot,
at the Bytebeat concerts, at studios, on S52 comps. It would be good if
local synth pop bands could get together and put out a CD... I just want
to file the info for future reference, coz I haven't got a band at the
moment, but will hopefully have some good demos by the end of the year...

Paul

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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May)
Subject: Re: TISM (2nd attempt)
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 06:13:20 GMT


In article <1992Sep10.034934.28965@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>, chuck@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Andrew Hawling) writes:
|> They did two gigs in Sydney a few weeks ago and one of my friends took some
|> really cool photos. His also always writing to them asking if he can tape
|> the shows but they always say no. He also thinks some of them must be school
|> teachers because they only seem to tour during the Victoria School Holidays.

Yep - a couple are teachers, another's an acountant.....probably a couple of
bankers in there too :-}

Aparently they released the current mini-album to abate the fan mail demanding
another recording.  They didn't really want to make it...and do the subsequent
tour.

brian
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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May)
Subject: Re: With regards to the Australian music industry...
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 08:15:48 GMT


In article <pet.715851527@munagin>, pet@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (paul eng-yi tan) writes:
|> 
|> I wonder also why there are no or few pirate radio stations playing techno
|> or other underground type music, as there are in the UK. Anyone know why not?
|> Paul

Simple.  We have public radio - the UK does not.

brian
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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May)
Subject: Re: Chris Wilson and the Crown of Thorns
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 01:58:49 GMT


In article <9225411.8501@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, carl@ecr.mu.oz.au (Carl_Ivan BREWER) writes:
|> Last night I went to the Esplinade hotel, to see
|> Chris Wilson.  
|> 
|> Best damn live music I've seen since Floyd toured!
|> 
|> He's one hell of a gun singer, and a mean harmonica'ist :)
|> 

So far there's 3 Crown Of Thorns LPs.  "Carnival" (I think) is the name of
the CD which ahs the 1st 2 albums on.  Of course, there's the "Big One" 'solo'
album from Chris Wilson (lotsa soulful Deep South type covers)

I reckon they were better when Barb Waters & Ashley (drums) played in COT tho' :-)

Yeah, Chris Wilson is a big man, with a _huge_ voice & really captivates his
audience.  I'd agree - a 'must see' for any country/blues fans.

brian
(BTW - it's the _Gershwin_ room at the _Esplanade_!)
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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: andy@research.canon.oz.au (Andy Newman)
Subject: Re: Aus Jazz
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 06:26:46 GMT


Try the Petersham Inn on Sunday afternoon/evenings, they have some
very cool players having a lot of fun.

If you like a good laugh you can always try the White Horse in Surry
Hills on Saturday afternoons :- Lucy Brown and Friends, with Edwin
Duff. Edwin Duff is a four foot tall Frank Sinatra impersonator
(reminds me of Ron Peno [Died Pretty] actually :-) They do things like
Bye Bye Blackbird etc...
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