HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:30:12 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)

In article <1992Dec14.190338.15293@gallant.apple.com> cheryl@gallant.apple.com (Cheryl Lins) writes:
>In article <9212120205.28@rmkhome.UUCP> rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
>>
>>PowerPC is UNIX with a Mac emulation on top.
>>
>
>You're talking about PowerOpen. PowerPC is the name of a series of computer 
>chips. The 601 is the first (reported in EE Times, MacWeek, etc). PowerOpen
>is a Unix implementation running on the PowerPC chip. The PowerPC based
>Macintoshes will not be based on Unix. There is 68020 emulation at the
>bottom. This was all publicly announced at the WWDC in May, '92.

There seems to be two "rumors" floating around.

1. PowerOpen, which will run on the PowerPC, will be a base OS consisting
   of a mixture of AIX and A/UX, with a MacOS emulation and Multifinder
   running on top.

2. Taligent, which will run on the PowerPC, will be released without any
   application compatibility to any other OS.

Why would Apple base an OS on a processor chip that they no longer support
in their product line?

-- 

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,alt.religion.kibology,alt.folklore.urban
From: jkonrath@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Jon Konrath)
Subject: Re: Proper pronunciation of 'Kibo' IN BED
Organization: No organization. No life. Just emacs.
	<1gjmngINN5rq@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 02:14:24 GMT

In article <1gjmngINN5rq@agate.berkeley.edu> nweaver@soda.berkeley.edu (Nicholas C. Weaver) writes:

	   Real cruel thing to do.  Put the word "Kibo" into your
   .sig.    :)

I wonder if I could convince local admins to rename our NNTP-server machine
usenet.ucs.indiana.edu to kibo.ucs.indiana.edu so all of our outgoing stuff
has to word "Kibo" in it...

-j
--
Jon Konrath | Jkonrath@indiana.edu | one world. one sig.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: sibley@math.psu.edu (David Sibley)
Subject: Re: PI
Organization: Penn State Department of Mathematics
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 03:18:54 GMT

In article <BzL5KM.4Ax@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> bjackson@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Ben Jackson) writes:
  [stuff deleted]
>I read an article which made fun of people seeking large numbers of PI digits,
>as a circle with the radius of earth's orbit can be approximated to within 2cm
>with only 7(?) digits.  Can anyone cite an exact source?  (what? here in the
>alt.folklore heirarchy?  heh)

Well, I hope there's no source for this.  It's badly wrong.

Presuming you mean to compute the circumference of such a circle from
its radius, using pi to only 7 digits (after the decimal point, 8 digits
total) yields an error of over 1 million centimeters.  That's a lot more
than 2 centimeters.

When readers don't know enough to check, I suppose a writer can say
anything in an article.  Sigh.

This still doesn't justify finding pi to billions of decimal places, of
course.


David Sibley   NT3O
sibley@math.psu.edu

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: my sig; a final apology
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Turkey Division
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 09:59:14 GMT

In article <7851345@zl2tnm.gen.nz> don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes) writes:

>I seriously considered putting a sendsys out on your behalf, just as a 
>little demo of why you shouldn't mess with a hacker on his own turf.  But
>I didn't, mostly out of compassion for your feed site. 

Dick-waving contests impress no one.

Not even those waving the dicks.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /               Rocks say goodbye.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) / 
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: syswtr@iowasp.physics.uiowa.edu
Subject: Re: WANTED: PDP-10 or 11
Organization: Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Iowa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:13:56 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.101359.1@cc.curtin.edu.au>, zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
> In article <1992Dec4.215012.10674@news.columbia.edu>, lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
>> In article <2511338@zl2tnm.gen.nz> don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes) writes:
>>>lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
>> 
>> maximum MASS-BUS count was 16 ports.  With interleaved memory, the -10 
>> can keep them all moving at the same time, etc.
>> 
> 
> Time to fix this. A KL-10D or KL-10E could have 8 RH20s. Later Es, REs and
> a FCO changed this to 4 RH20s, and 2 CI-20s/NI-20s. In the 8 RH case, the
> first 4 RHs could run ever cycle, and the second 4 ever other cycle. You
> didn't need interleaved memory as multiple boxes in the case of MF/MG mos
> memory. You would with core if you wanted to run all RHs at the limit.
> 
> As a comparison, 1 RP07 un-interleaved needed a second memory controller on
> a 11/780. An 11/70 with MK-11s can run a RP07 no problems. ( except for lack
> of diagnostics etc ).
> 
> ~Paul
> 
  The 2nd. go-around of the '780 memory controller was internall 2-way 
interleaved.  It was capable of handling the Rp07 at full speed...

Willy
From: ig25@fg70.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Thomas Koenig)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: man - command
Date: 16 Dec 1992 20:04:56 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Reply-To: ig25@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
NNTP-Posting-Host: fg70.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de

Just wondering idly - has anybody in the known history of UNIX ever
complained about the fact that the command to print out manual pages
is called man(1) and not woman(1)?
-- 
Thomas Koenig, ig25@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de, ig25@dkauni2.bitnet
The joy of engineering is to find a straight line on a double logarithmic
diagram.
From: sarr@sinshan.citi.umich.edu (Sarr J. Blumson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: What is so greate about the PDP 10?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 15:15:33 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan, CITI
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sinshan.citi.umich.edu
Keywords: PDP 10, gods gift to hackers, TOPS, ITS

In article <1992Dec16.065529.16380@news.columbia.edu> lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:

>Perhaps we need opinions on where DEC would be today.  Imagine a DEC history
>where the VAX was never a seriously pursued architecture (or at least wasn't
>done so at the -10's expense) and thus now DEC would be at a new cross-roads
>regarding what to do about the various product lines with the Alpha just
>coming up to speed now, but without all the VAX activity, etc.
>
>cjl
>

A tricky one.  In this reality what's killed DEC and all of the other
large system builders is the appearance of small, cheap machines, all
of which adopted many of the features (eg the evil 8 bit byte) that
cjl hates.  If DEC were trying to compete with 36 bit word machines,
they might be right where they are now.  On the other hand many of
those microprocessors were inspired by the 11, and if DEC had never
started down that path maybe the 8008 would have been a 12 bit
machine.  Of course there was IBM too...
(Sarr Blumson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: What is so greate about the PDP 10?
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 03:46:29 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.130721.13324@news.columbia.edu> lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
> When the Rainbow was being thunk through, the world was using Victor 9000
> aka Sirius 1, a much better 8088 PC than an IBM.

Among others. I don't think there was a serious company out there that
didn't look at the IBM-PC and say "geeze, we could do better than this with
one lobe tied behind our hindbrain" and proceed to produce an 8088, 8086,
or (later) 80186 based machine that made the IBM look sick. If they'd got
together and agreed on the *same* superior box they might have pulled it
off, too. Unfortunately, IBM was bigger and only Compaq had a product that
was better *enough* to hang on.

I think the Victor used an 8086, by the way. Other contenders were the HP (yes
the 150 had lots of HP brain damage but it was still better than the first few
generations of the IBM), Corona, Compaq (of course), and DEC.
-- 
Peter da Silva.  <peter@sugar.neosoft.com>.
 `-_-'   Oletko halannut suttasi tnn?
  'U`    
Tarjoilija, tm ateria el viel.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Apple IIGS being discontinued Dec 1992
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:27:37 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)

In article <1992Dec16.180320.13556@gallant.apple.com> cheryl@gallant.apple.com (Cheryl Lins) writes:
>In article <9212151730.20@rmkhome.UUCP> rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
>>There seems to be two "rumors" floating around.
>>
>>1. PowerOpen, which will run on the PowerPC, will be a base OS consisting
>>   of a mixture of AIX and A/UX, with a MacOS emulation and Multifinder
>>   running on top.
>>
>>2. Taligent, which will run on the PowerPC, will be released without any
>>   application compatibility to any other OS.
>>
>>Why would Apple base an OS on a processor chip that they no longer support
>>in their product line?
>
>If i were writing a _new_ OS, i'd agree that that would be a Dumb Idea. But
>there happens to be millions of existing Macs out there with lots of software.

Well, that depends on how literally the emulate the 68020, and if it wouldn't
be better to emulate the 68030.

>Now, do you want to know a _really_ Dumb Idea? Produce a new personal
>computer running a brand new computer chip and a new OS and don't have any
>application software to run on it at introduction (let alone thousands of
>software titles). Apple engineers are not that dumb. Even Apple managers aren't
>that dumb. :-)

Which machine is that?  Alpha?  Between OpenVMS and UNIX they have plenty of
apps.

DEC is only planning to sell NT on one low-end model.

>Some of us do have a clue, even if the rest of the world hasn't figured that
>out yet.

When the Mac ships with a real command line shell, then maybe some people
will look on it more favorably.

-- 

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re:  Famous flame wars, examples please?
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:59:18 GMT

In article <alien.01vm@acheron.amigans.gen.nz> alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz (Ross Smith) writes:
>
>Classification by newsgroup distribution
>   1. Restricted to one newsgroup
>   2. Cross-posted to a small number of related newsgroups
>   3. Cross-posted to completely unrelated newsgroups by some idiot
>   4. Cross-posted all over the net
    5. Cross-posted all over *other* nets

>
>Classification by population
>   1. One person vs one person
>   2. Small clique vs small clique
>   3. One person vs all and sundry
>   4. Large number of people vs large number of people
>   5. One complete newsgroup vs another
    6. One complete net vs another

>
>Classification by life cycle

    0. So short no one noticed it ever happened
>   1. Short-lived (a few weeks), then sinks without trace
>   2. Long-lived (several months)
>   3. Short-lived in any one incarnation, but keeps popping up again
>   4. Immortal
>
>Classification by outcome
>   1. All participants convinced of one side's point of view (rare!)
>   2. Most participants convinced apart from a small but vocal minority
>   3. Inconclusive, nobody convinced of anything (except that there are
>      a lot of idiots on the net, which we all know already)
    4. All participants convinced of the *other* side's point of view, thus
       the flames continue with each side defending the other's former view

cjl
From: peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: What is so greate about the PDP 10?
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 11:37:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.034118.20850@netsys.com> bugs@netsys.com (Mark Hittinger) writes:
> Oh well - I'll just ask him when he thinks he can port WNT to the 11! 

Why in the world would you want to port WNT to *anything*? Bad enough that
it exists in the first place.
-- 
Peter da Silva.  <peter@sugar.neosoft.com>.
 `-_-'   Oletko halannut suttasi tnn?
  'U`    
Tarjoilija, tm ateria el viel.
Xref: sparky alt.folklore.computers:17922 alt.religion.kibology:5357 alt.folklore.urban:31191
From: maupb@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J L Saunders)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,alt.religion.kibology,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Proper pronounciation of 'Kibo'
Date: 15 Dec 1992 05:07:50 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.csv.warwick.ac.uk

In article <1992Dec15.031026.20280@news.columbia.edu> lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
%In article <27961@dog.ee.lbl.gov> TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:
%>std_fleming@hg.uleth.ca writes:
%>
%>  +Kibo, what do you do on the net?  Also, what do you do in the real world?
%>
%>What's the difference?
%
%No one ever asks you to get a net.

Has anyone ever asked you to get a real world, then?

Jason
-- 
    "Merry Xvob!"      Jason L Saunders [ RouE ]       "Merry Xvob!"
                     email: maupb@csv.warwick.ac.uk
snail: Warwick Business School, University of Warwick, Coventry CV4 7AL, UK

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: Core memories and flip-chips .
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 10:59:37 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.123323.547@uoft02.utoledo.edu> mohan@tulip.es.utoledo.edu writes:
>Hi,
>
>Is there anyone here who would have a few flip-chips from PDP-8s,
>and any kind of core memories that you can give me ?
>
>I want these for no particular reason, just want to see them and 
>keep them.

That kind of stuff is extremely hard to get spare parts for existing machines.
Go to one of those irresponsible outfits like the Computer Museum in Boston
where they give the stuff away for a small fee while being offensive to those
of us who care about maintaining these remnants of the past.

cj "Should I give my Mother away also, after all, she's old too :-(" l
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: carlos@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Miguel Borges)
Subject: Re: Famous flame wars, examples please?
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 17:50:16 GMT

mcdaniel@grex.ann-arbor.mi.us (Tim McDaniel) writes:
>In article <1992Dec10.134214.8650@CERIS.Purdue.EDU>
>jheath@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Jim Heath) writes:
>>There is _currently_ a pretty hot and long-lived flamewar going on between
>>the Greeks and Turks on Soc.history.

>On a pedantic note: perhaps you were thinking of the Persians?  (I
>thought that was in the 500s BC, anyway.)  According to Ostrogorsky's
>"History of the Byzantine State", the first Byzantine-Turk contact was
>in Justin II's (Justinian's son) time, in the 560s-570s AD (p. 74).
>The Byzantines were looking for another silk route to China without
>going thru Persia, their enemies.  The Turks were then in the Caucasus
>Mountains.  Byzantine diplomacy often followed the "the enemy of my
>enemy is my friend" premise.  They made a treaty against Persia.

You are wrong you murderous pig!


>The Seljuq Turks migrated into and took over Persia and Mesopotamia
>before 1060 AD.  Alp Arslan, the second Seljuq Sultan in Baghdad,
>attacked Byzantine Armenia in 1065 AD (p. 343), and went after Asia
>Minor two years later.

According to which history book?  Yours, no doubt.  You are all wrong!
It's a conspiracy to take over the world, and I am good.  You are
bad.  Wrong Wrong Wrong.

>So the Turk-Greek dispute is as old as the Turk-Armenian dispute, which
>is ALSO intermittently hot on the Net.

No!  Again, you show the incompetance only a member of your group/tribe/
flock would display.  Wrong wrong wrong!


Just demonstrating the content of the greek-turk-macedonian-armenian
flame war.
-- 
\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\
C. Miguel Borges        and his EVIL TWIN BROTHER (tm)        Carlos M. Borges
carlos@morgan.ucs.mun.ca <-------------------------> carlos@garfield.cs.mun.ca
Memorial University of Newfoundland, St. John's, NF. Canada []*[] <-cheap flag
From: daniel@mertwig.uucp (Daniel Drucker)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: octal to decimal converter?
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 09:28:00 EST
Reply-To: daniel%mertwig@uunet.uu.net  (Daniel Drucker)
Organization: Abnormalities of Reality

lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:

> In article <oDaLVB1w165w@mertwig.uucp> xyzzy%mertwig@uunet.uu.net  (Daniel Dr
> >I was just reading about the (octal?) to decimal converter that the hackers 
> >MIT in the (60s or 50s?) were writing, and how they tried to do it with
> >fewer and fewer instructions. I'm wondering if anyone has the listing
> >(it was PDP-1 assembly I think, or maybe TX-0?) of it, which turned out to b
> >48 lines.
> 
> That seems a bit long, assuming it's PDP-8 code; probably too many bits since
> the PDP-1 was 18 bits, not 12.  When you're trying to write tight code you
> have to eliminate all extra bits!

Well, you'd know more than me; I read it in Steven Levy's 'Hackers', you were
probably there...

I would like more info on this subject though...feel free to mail me if you
don't think it's appropriate here.


--
Daniel Drucker       N2SXX            Coconut seashells whispering to me
xyzzy%mertwig@uunet.uu.net              "Forever, forever, my Coda..."
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.science
From: userDHAL@mts.ucs.UAlberta.CA (David Halliwell)
Subject: Re: Sig file (was: Re: Famous flame wars, examples please?)
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:37:56 GMT

shag@aero.org (Robert M. Unverzagt) writes:
>In article <1992Dec5.102430.1602@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> ig25@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de writes:
>>
>> Thomas Koenig, ig25@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de, ig25@dkauni2.bitnet
>> The joy of engineering is to find a straight line on a double logarithmic
>> diagram.

>I just noticed this sig and couldn't help commenting.  A guy
>I know points out that if something plots linearly on log-log
>paper, you've just discovered a law of nature.

     Gee. The way I heard it was that if you took a data set and
plotted it on log-log paper, and *didn't* get a straight line, then
you were in deep sh*t. To thine own self be true.


Dave Halliwell
Department of Geography
University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,alt.sys.pdp8
From: dp@world.std.com (Jeff DelPapa)
Subject: Re: The NOVA and the PDP-11  (Was Re: WANTED: PDP-10 or 11)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:38:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.190931.18700@iecc.cambridge.ma.us> johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine) writes:
>lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
>>It apparently came down to the fact that the "green light" had been given
>>for the NOVA project, and sub-design teams formed, etc.  Note that one of
>>the design goals for this project was to use larger boards to overcome the
>>limitations of FLIP-CHIP modules which can't have much functionality per
>>card because of lack of fingers.  ...
>
>Actually, there was a sensible reason that DEC used small cards.  The
>PDP-6 (the machine that the PDP-10 was almost as good as) used great big
>cards with lots of pins per connector.  Unfortunately, the connectors
>didn't work very well.  A standard diagnostic technique when a PDP-6 was
>flaking was to open the back and hit all the modules with a rubber mallet.
>For that among other reasons the PDP-6 was a marketing failure and they
>only built 20 of them.

One peice of (likely) apocrapha regarding the nova board size...  It
seems that a number of people at dec had pdp-8's in their basement
built in the same mode as the Cadillac in that old country standard
"one peice at a time".  DG as cost conscious as it ever was,
supposedly designed Nova boards such that they wouldn't fit in
breifcases, printouts, or under the coat (no matter how fat the wearer
of the coat).

the following are supposedly not apocrapha:

DG didn't want cloned memory boards, and had one trace on their memory
board that had an inconspicious break - the sort that someone trying
to copy the board would assume was a bad spot on the copy and fix -
this would connect the +12 supply line to the core stacks sense wire -
powering up such a board would let all of the magic smoke out of the
core stack.

On the nova 1200's, there was a power supply crowbar module. It was
potted, they were assembled by a single technician, and no prints of
the thing were available.  This module was also the source of some of
the timing signals. It was a $500 part from field service. I saw one
that the potting had been carefully removed from - it contained 6
chips. (numbers were removed, possibly by the removal of the potting,
so I cannot give an accurate actual cost estimate)

The novas had power fail restart as a $250 option. It was implemented
(on the 1200 anyway) by two chips (a comparator and a latch I think,
tho it may have been a one-shot and a gate) on one of the CPU cards.
By default the chips were installed on all boards manufactured, and
diked out if not ordered.  The going rate for a bootleg installation
from the field service techs was $50 (the chips cost about $0.45).

<dp>
From: shoppa@almach.caltech.edu (TIM SHOPPA)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Apple ][e emulator (?)
Date: 11 Dec 1992 09:54 PST
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: almach.caltech.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1992Dec10.124259.16446@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>, c3q@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes...
> 
>A couple of us CS types were discussing the old ][e, and concluded that it
>would be a SMOP to write a ][e emulator (sort of an interpreter that took ][e
>object code and ran it on a virtual 6502, virtual graphics chips, etc). 
>Although this would be a real cool hack, *I* don't have time for it.  Has
>anyone heard of anyone else talk about this project (either software or 
>vaporware)?  I'd like to meet the demented heroic fool!
>                                          
>                              
>   Travis J.I. Corcoran       tcorcora@sunlab.cit.cornell.edu
Hi Travis,
	I found a while back an Apple 2 emulator for IBM PC's and clones. It is
apl2em.zip at cobalt.cco.caltech.edu, in the directory /pub/nyet/apl2em. 
        I recall it having documentation as well as the source code, and works
very nearly exactly like an Apple ][. The only little discrepancy I remember is
that it doesn't support the mixed graphics-text modes.  I also seem to recall
disk images of many classic ][ games at that site as well.  Most of them ran on
my 286 machine at nearly the same speed as they did on the original ][!  The
only game that seemed to run a little slow was Karateka.
	I don't know if the emulation is of a ][+ or the //e.  All of my
experience was on ][+'s.
	Have fun playing with it!

					Tim (Shoppa@erin.caltech.edu)
From: Edward.Rice@p4214.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Edward Rice)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Putting the prompt into the path
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 03:22:46 -0500

Thomas Koenig said to All: 

  TK> From: ig25@fg30.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Thomas Koenig) Newsgroups:
  TK> alt.folklore.computers Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
  TK> Reply-To: ig25@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
  TK> 
  TK> Who was the first to have the neat idea of putting the current path
  TK> (for those OS for which thereis such a thing) into the prompt?  I
  TK> believe MS-DOS had it before the different UNIX shells (certainly
  TK> before /bin/sh or /bin/ksh) but I'm reluctant to credit Microsoft with
  TK> such a good idea...

It was around on Multics (as an option, not a requirement -- user-settable
ready lines were very popular then) at least as far back as 1975.

ANybody got an earlier example?


Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers