HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: alexo+@cs.cmu.edu (Alex Orenshteyn)
Newsgroups: sci.physics.fusion
Subject: Re: Fusion, simulations and the net
Date: 12 Sep 92 00:04:21 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

How does PVM handle global functions like global max, min, sum, product,
concatenate etc...?

On a different tangent, Can someone describe in general terms what apparatus
it takes to produce BLs?
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From: Jed Rothwell <72240.1256@compuserve.com>
Subject: Lecture Notice
Reply-To: Jed Rothwell <72240.1256@compuserve.com>
Organization: Sci.physics.fusion/Mail Gateway
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:49:14 GMT

To: >INTERNET:fusion@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG

M.I.T. EECS-LECTURE
THURSDAY 1-2 PM
SEPTEMBER 24, 1992
ROOM 18-490 (LANDAU BLDG.)

Observations of Heat in Electrochemical Studies of the Palladium/Deuterium
Systems Employing an Isothermal Flow Calorimeter

by M.C.H. McKubre, SRI International

       A three year experimental program was undertaken to determine
whether, and under what conditions, effects of anomalous heat and nuclear
products were observed in association with the electrochemical reduction of
D2O at a palladium cathode. The hypothesis tested was that such anomalous
effects occur only in the presence of a high atomic ratio (D/Pd) in the metal.
A large part of the experimental program was involved in determining the
kinetic parameters and mechanisms by which D/Pd ratios near unity could be
obtained and maintained under near ambient conditions. Attention will be
given to the role of electrolyte additives in achieving this condition.

       While low level detection was not attempted, energetic products of
nuclear reactions have not been observed. Unaccounted, and statistically
significant heat excesses have been observed on more than 40 occasions. The
excess energies of these observations are larger than can be accounted for by
known chemical or mechanical energy storage processes. Observations of excess
power and energy are strongly correlated with the measured D/Pd ratio, to the
imposed cathodic current density, and to a third process of unknown origin,
with an extended time constant. Potential implications of these observations
will
be discussed in terms of a phenomenological model.

This research program was supported by the Electric Power Research Institute

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From: Jed Rothwell <72240.1256@compuserve.com>
Subject: Uh-huh
Reply-To: Jed Rothwell <72240.1256@compuserve.com>
Organization: Sci.physics.fusion/Mail Gateway
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:41:55 GMT

To: >INTERNET:fusion@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG

Both Tom Droege and Gene Mallove have tried the Ying experiment and gotten
negative results. I think Ying made a mistake, but since I have not seen the
secret, detailed instructions that Tom and Gene have used, I could not
venture a guess as to what kind of mistake he made. In my view, it is
interesting, but nothing to get excited about unless a lot more people
replicate it. It is like the Mills experiment.

The Mills experiment, by the way, is still alive and kicking. I have recently
heard from two other respectable groups who now think they have replicated
it. If they still think so in a few months, I am sure they will publish, and
we will hear from them. It is puzzling. I guess you cannot draw many
conclusions from a handful of replications, unless they are extraordinarily
dramatic, obvious, and done with good instrumentation. By the same token,
you cannot toss out Ying's work completely just because Tom and Gene failed
to replicate it.

- Jed

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From: barry@arnold.math.ucla.edu (Barry Merriman)
Subject: Re: FASER theory --> FASEN --- "n" (somewhat epic)
Organization: UCLA, Mathematics Department
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 01:13:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.050038.4393@prometheus.UUCP> pmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M.  
Koloc) writes:
> What is required in this case is a radiation that has little 
> or no cross-section for non-fusing matter, but has an 
> exceptionally high capture cross-section for capture by  
> -- and transform of -- near fusion events into fusion events.  

That would do the trick, but is such really possible? As you note,  
electromagnetic radiation could not be so discriminating. As for
neutrinos, its hard to image their capture cross section could be
large enough, even if there were some resonance at their frequency.
Plus, where would the neutrino's come from to drive the process? The
fusion events postulated don't release any.

--
Barry Merriman
UCLA Dept. of Math
UCLA Inst. for Fusion and Plasma Research
barry@math.ucla.edu (Internet; NeXTMail is welcome)


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From: ames!FNALD.FNAL.GOV!DROEGE
Subject: Current Experiment
Reply-To: ames!FNALD.FNAL.GOV!DROEGE
Organization: Sci.physics.fusion/Mail Gateway
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:58:40 GMT

Jennifer says it will be an unusually cold winter.  This determined by the 
much larger than usual number of soup coupons in the sunday paper.

Meanwhile, the weather has been bad in my basement.  There have been a number
of power failures.  The UPS has apparently decided that it will no longer 
cover even a fractional second power interruption.  This is bad, since the
hard disk on the computer will no longer take a command.com file, and there
is a keyboard failure message every time the computer is turned on.  I think
running for four months without a single pause wore the whole mess out.  
After three years of the exact same display, I can finally see faint pink spots
where there was yellow text when I switch to a full white screen.  Fermilab
is full of screen savers, but as near as I can tell, and by the above actual
experiment, screens are so good these days that they don't kneed saving.  I
think the computer fan has also died, but can not be sure from all the othe
r fans running.  I think it is time to replace the whole mess.  OR to quit 
this crazy business.  

In spite of all this, I occationally get a day's worth of data.  When I do,
it indicates near perfect calorimeter balance, i.e. no excess heat.  I am 
running alternate source on/off when it runs two days in a row.  There has 
been no indication of any difference between source in/out.  It will be very
interesting if this effect returns over time.  Stay tuned folks!

Tom Droege
Newsgroups: sci.physics.fusion
Subject: Ball Lightning-Fusion tie?
From: jbatka@desire.wright.edu
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:41:00 EST
Organization: Wright State University 

Pardon my ignorance,

is the discussion concerning ball lightning implying that a limited
fusion reaction is occuring?  Or is this just some sort of electrical/
magnetic field interaction with plasmas?

Could someone give a brief discription of the process behind ball
lightning?  (or did I miss this already?)

Thanks,
-- 

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Newsgroups: sci.physics.fusion
From: Jed Rothwell <72240.1256@compuserve.com>
Subject: Olympic Sized Headache
Reply-To: Jed Rothwell <72240.1256@compuserve.com>
Organization: Sci.physics.fusion/Mail Gateway
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:22:24 GMT

To: >INTERNET:fusion@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG

Here is a memo to anyone planning to attend the Third International
Conference on Cold Fusion in Nagoya (Oct. 21 - Oct 25).

There is some kind of "Olympic Rally Event" scheduled in Nagoya during
the same week as the CF Conference, so the hotels may be full, and the
traffic may tied up and blocked off. I don't know the details. If you
plan to attend the conference, Dr. Ikegami and others have suggested
that you make arrangements now, before the hotels fill up.

The Kintetsu International travel agency is in charge of hotel
arrangements and so on. I talked to Mr. Watanabe there, and he says he
is holding open a block of rooms for conference attendees until the end
of this month. Kintetsu's phone numbers are:

Tel: 052-262-1901  Fax: 052-252-0158 (Country code for Japan is 81,
drop the initial digit when calling from outside the country).


I think Dieter Britz asked for the Japanese equivalent to "Patent
Pending" or "Patent Applied For." Isn't that what you write in small
print on clever new gizmos? In Japanese that is "[senbai] tokkyo
shutsuganchu" The optional "senbai" means "exclusive." In he-man, no-
wimp Jorden romanization the third word is "syutugan'tyuu." To file for
a patent is: "tokkyo o shinsei suru."

As far as I know, no patent for any cold fusion device or process has
been granted yet. Perhaps, as Dieter says, a few slipped in when the
examiners were not paying attention, in East Germany or South Africa,
but I don't think that any have been granted in Japan, and I am certain
that none have been granted in the U.S.

- Jed
From: lwall@netlabs.com (Larry Wall)
Newsgroups: sci.physics.fusion
Subject: Re: Fusion, simulations and the net
Date: 12 Sep 92 21:21:43 GMT
Organization: NetLabs, Inc.

In article <10698@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr) writes:
: One must, of course, have an account on this machine unless you wish to 
: violate the law.

Then by all means, give me an account.  I have no desire to violate the law,
even passively.  I promise I won't use the account, if that helps...

:-)

Larry Wall
lwall@netlabs.com
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From: blue@nscl01.nscl.msu.edu
Subject: F&P in the South of France
Reply-To: blue@nscl01.nscl.msu.edu
Organization: Sci.physics.fusion/Mail Gateway
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 02:37:29 GMT

The following was posted on CompuServe by Michael Kenward:

The reporter who first revealed the existance of cold fusion to the world,
Clive Cookson of the Financial Times, has another article on the subject
in today's (Aug 28?) edition of the newspaper.

(Headline) "Doubters of 'cold fusion' confronted"
At the annual meeting of the British Association for the Advancement of
Science Martin Fleischmann showed a video of recent experiments with a CF
cell.  It had a palladium electrode about 1 inch in diameter and 6 inches
high.  Cookson writes: "The cell was bubbling intensely, he said, emit-
ting 1 kilowatt of excess heat per cubic centimetre - similar to the
output of a fast breeder nuclear reactor."

The experiments happened in a lab in the south of France, where Fleischmann
and Pons work "for a Japanese-funded think tank."  "It takes about a week to
initiate the process and then you have about 15 minutes to observe the
phenomenon," Fleischmann is quoted as saying.  F&P haven't run a cell more
than an hour "for safety reasons".  Fl says that the CF process is not yet
controllable enough for people to start thinking about building practical
devices.

Fleischmann says that "There are hundreds of people working on the topic
and I would say they are spending tens of millions of pounds on it."
--------------
So now we have advanced from science by press conference to science by
video.  I find it hard to connect "bubbling intensely" with 10 kW of
heat output.  Let's see, that would be roughly 2 Kcal per second which
would vaporize 3-4 cc per second - yes, I guess that must be the
"proof" of CF we have all been waiting for.  I wonder if Fleischmann
knows about all those 6 GeV 3He steaming out of his cell?  Maybe that
is why you only have "15 minutes to observe the phenomenon."

Dick Blue
NSCL @ MSU
From: MCCMAINT@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: sci.physics.fusion
Subject: ISO Ceramic Hydrogen Thyratron Info
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:43:30 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Would like any info on the above subject. We use many for high power fast switc
hing.
Thanks
JOHN W. KRZASZCZAK                  WHAT I SAY,IS WHAT I SAY AND THATS
STANFORD LINEAR ACCELORATOR CENTER  ALL WHAT I SAY.
MS #49 P.O.BOX 4349
STANFORD CA 94309
415.926.4050
Newsgroups: sci.physics.fusion
From: Dieter Britz <BRITZ@kemi.aau.dk>
Subject: CNF bibliography update (total now 738 papers, 112 patents/appl.).
Reply-To: Dieter Britz <BRITZ@kemi.aau.dk>
Organization: Sci.physics.fusion/Mail Gateway
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:18:21 GMT


Hello all,
I make use of this single patent posting to make a remark on patents. I was
just asked whether any of these patent APPLICATIONS have actually subsequently
been issued as real patents. I looked through my file (CNF-PAT) and note about
three "East German", one or maybe two Belgian and one South African patents
that are not clearly marked as "appl.", "Offenl.", "Demande" or whatever word
in the Japanese ones signifies (Jed: which is it??) what the rest are all
saying, i.e. that this is just an application. I don't know whether Chemical
Abstracts later follows these up, when/if they ARE issued - my guess is they
don't. There are, of course, patents data bases to look at, but I am not
interested enough to do it. So when I say 112 patents/appl., please take note
that it's anybody's guess how many actually made it through the process or are
going to.
                                                                        Dieter
==============================================================================
                     COLD NUCLEAR FUSION BIBLIOGRAPHY
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                           Additions 15-Sep-1992
                   Dieter Britz alias britz@kemi.aau.dk
                           Total in Section 2: 738

Patents; archived file CNF-PAT
^^^^^^^
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hayd A, Meinke P, Eckert M, Koller K;    Ger. Offenl. DE 4,032,824, 16-Oct-90.
Cited in Chem. Abstr. 117(8):78500 (1992).
"Method and apparatus for controlled nuclear fusion".
** "The title method comprises addn. of an unconditioned polymer with
moderator in a cold nuclear fusion process. The moderator may be a Ni salt".
(Direct quote from CA).
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dieter Britz alias britz@kemi.aau.dk
Kemisk Institut, Aarhus Universitet, 8000 Aarhus C, Denmark.
Telephone: +45-86124633 (8:30-16:00 weekdays); fax: +45-86196199
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From: asghar@ifi.uih.au
Subject: Test
Reply-To:  asghar@ifi.uih.au 
Organization: University of Melborn
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 12:06:38 GMT


It is a test.
From: rauchfuss@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Brian Rauchfuss)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:04:17 GMT
Subject: Re: Nucleon Cluster Model, Nature 20 Aug
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: sci.physics.fusion

In sci.physics.fusion, lordSnooty@cup.portal.com (Andrew - Palfreyman) writes:

> Looks like 100% of those contacted, if I read correctly,
> deny affiliation. Looks therefore also like Mr. Rothwell
> is following in the CF = good PR footsteps of some other
> well-known names.

There is a sentence in there which states (paraphrased):  "of the remaining 5,
2 could not be contacted and 2 were non-scientists."  This implies that there
was one scientist who could be contacted and did not object to his name being
used.
From: amir@nora.ust.fi
Newsgroups: sci.physics.fusion
Subject: testing
Date: 6 Sep 92 14:39:30 GMT
Reply-To: amir@nora.ust.fi
Organization: NTC Co.

it is a test.

           Amir
From: pmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M. Koloc)
Newsgroups: sci.physics.fusion
Subject: Re: FASER theory -- BL aspects
Date: 9 Sep 92 07:55:24 GMT
Reply-To: pmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M. Koloc)
Organization: Prometheus II, Ltd.

In article <1992Sep7.191606.14371@nmt.edu> houle@nmt.edu (Paul Houle) writes:
>In article <1992Sep07.042525.21187@prometheus.UUCP> pmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M. Koloc) writes:
>>
>>It now can be reproduced "at will", subject to the fact that BL 
>>formation is potentially very dangerous endeavor and requires 
>>sophisticated safeguards and as well as formation equipment.  At
>>the present time the process is closely held.  
>
>	I am kind of curious about what your machine can do.  How big of a
>ball lightning can you make and how long does it last?  
Preliminary formation efficiencies are around 10%.  That means the larger
the input, (assuming a fast system) the larger the ball.  One possibility
would be a half of a megajoule input from a machine at NSWC-WhiteOak and
another would be 10 megajoules from a Miley's device (originally LANL) at
Urbana.  A couple of NSWC weeks plus setup) needs about 50K$ and it could
be done quickly since they already have an ideal blockhouse with plenty of
optical and instrumentation access.  The other device may require a sub
basement or tunnel or may not, depending on what our studies turn up.  I
suspect with that kind of energy it will.  

>                        . . ..    .         . I assume that the
>energy involved in formation must be rather large if formation is a
>"dangerous endeavor"...  About how much energy is involved?

Relatively small.  It's just that it's such an efficient little beasty.  
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From: pmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M. Koloc)
Newsgroups: sci.physics.fusion,sci.space
Subject: Re: FASER theory -- BL aspects
Date: 10 Sep 92 10:37:44 GMT
Reply-To: pmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M. Koloc)
Organization: Prometheus II, Ltd.

In article <EACHUS.92Sep9105601@Dr_No.mitre.org> eachus@Dr_No.mitre.org (Robert I. Eachus) writes:
>
>     I'm curious.  How fast a rise time do you need, and at what
>voltage?  

Later.  

>  .. . I remember buying 5 KV 80 microFarad Mylar capacitors from
>Maxwell.  Only good for about a thousand shots, but a kilojoule you
>can hold in your hand is nothing to sneeze at. (You'll break your
>wrist--as I remember it they weighed about 20 pounds. :-)  They also
>made larger capacitors and firing switches for them.  I remeber
>pictures of a 50 Megajoule test.  We also used to buy 100 joule oil
>filleds by the pallet load.  A lot more wiring, but they lasted for
>years.  The only advantage of the mylar caps was an extremely low
>impedence, and they weighed a tenth as much per joule. 

A BIG advantage.

>     Prices have probably gone up a lot since I was playing with high
>voltage, but putting together a Megajoule source (with a once per five
>minutes firing rate) could be done back then for under 100 thousand
>dollars.  If you can use a homopolar generator, it can be done a lot
>cheaper...

Consider also the mass.  However some inertial storage units have
high specific energy.  I would still like to see a kick CF unit to
act as an energy source refeed pulser storage for PLASMAK(tm) engines
restart.  

PLASMAK(tm) formation and long life is energy efficient from the 
standpoint of the ratio of the: (PMK energy)/(formation output 
energy) --  or the in: (plasma nkT energy)/ (the total field 
energy). And being so compact the total PMK energy is not much 
compared to a the 6 to 20 gigajoules in the toroidal field coils of 
a tokamak. 

Relative efficiencies are by comparison to a tokamak. Cap development 
at Maxwell Labs will have 10 kJ/kg specific energies. 

Neato pulse lines may be developed to extend cap lifetimes and 
optimize transfer energy.   Weights on a 10 megajoule bank would 
be 1 metric ton --  what's needed for a 1 to 3 gigawatt generator.  
It would be nice to have engines of 20 gigawatts with burst operation
to 25 gigawatts.  Even operating around 17 gigawatts each, a pair of
these can put a sizeable payload on the surface of Mars.  This
assumes we will burn p-^(11)B  (protium boron isotope eleven).  That
trip goes from earth's surface to the Martian surface using two
different propulsion generation modes. Trip times of 300 to 450
hours seem about right.   

>					Robert I. Eachus
>

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From: scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller)
Subject: Re: Fusion, simulations and the net
Summary: ha ha
Organization: SF-Bay Public-Access Unix
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 04:16:36 GMT

In article <11SEP199213080370@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> edwlt12@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (MIKE JAMISON) writes:
>At home, however, I've got a 486 that just sits most of the time.  The 
>figures I've heard on the 486 (33 MHz) give it a FLOP rating of about 1 
>MFLOP or so.

Well, Zorch (presumably well-known to s.p.f readers, at least by name)
is a 3 MIP machine, and it will flop over if pushed hard enough.  Does
that count?

:-)

-- 
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Mail fusion-request@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG for emailed sci.physics.fusion digests.
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From: ames!FNALD.FNAL.GOV!DROEGE
Subject: Back to P&F
Reply-To: ames!FNALD.FNAL.GOV!DROEGE
Organization: Sci.physics.fusion/Mail Gateway
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:42:48 GMT

After a detour to Mills, Takahashi, and Ying; we are back to doing good ol'
Pons and Fleischmann.

We opend up cell 4A1 and cleaned it out.  This is the cell we have geen 
running for the last several months.  We found big lumps of yellowish crud.
Remember this cell started with lots of excess Lithium.  It also seemed to 
soak up endless amounts of D2.  This cell contained a piece of the Storms
Carbon-Teflon-Pt catalyst.  It also contained a plastic mesh bag full of 
good ol' Engelhard Palladium catalyst D.

My present theory is that the D2 just diffused out through all that Viton
tubing.  The cell ate the carbon from the Storms' catalyst and formed 
Lithium Carbonate, making "big lumps of yellowish crud".

Would anyone out there like to analyze some "yellowish crud"?  How much do
you need?  I have about 1 cc.  I cleaned out the cell with HCl - readily 
available at the local hardware store as muratic acid.  It attacked the 
crud just fine.  Please someone respond.  Better someone in the US as
I don't know what the rules are for sending "yellowish crud" through 
customs.  

After the several thousand hours of running, the precipitate was gone fron
the cell bottom, indicating that the excess Lithium had been used up.

Remember also, that this cell had been run "backwards" for extended periods
of time for calibration.  The anode was cacked with the "crud" when the
cell was opened.  Don't know about the cathode, since I had to clean the
cell with HCl to get at the cathode.  After the HCl clean everything was 
bright and shiny except the cathode which has a matt black finish.  

Please, someone offer to analyze the crud.

Tom Droege
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