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From: wikla@cs.Helsinki.FI (Arto Wikla)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,rec.music.classical,rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: train song tape finished (Oh no! it started again!)
Date: 11 Sep 92 07:06:06 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki, Finland

I've been waiting that somebody would name the train piece 
by Arthur Honegger (not the former boss of East Germany, Eric 
Honecker! :-) :-)
Well, this Arthur has composed very fine train piece, the name 
of the piece is something like 'Pacific <a number of a train>',
sorry I don't remember the exact name. It is easy to find in
some music history, anyhow.
The piece is real drama: the thrain leaves the station, and 
little by little gets faster and faster, and the opposite when
coming to the other station.
The piece was composed in 20's (or early 30's), and it belongs to
the art-genre of 'machine-romanticism'. Arthur was one of the
group 'Les six'.
I've seen also a silent movie from the same period, which was
made to the music! Wonderful!

Arto Wikla, Helsinki, Finland
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From: terryk@encore.com (Terence M. Kelleher)
Subject: Re: still looking for the authors of these songs
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:22:18 GMT


In article <1992Sep3.002328.14469@parc.xerox.com> putz@parc.xerox.com (Steve Putz) writes:


   Acres of Clams
	   (I've traveled this country all over...) [Pete Seeger]
Old music, from the Scotish song, "Acres of Clans"
New words by Charlie King.


   Battle of New Orleans
	   (In 1814 we took a little trip...)
Music is a bluegrass instrumental called, "The 6th of January", or
maybe it was the fifth.
Recorded by the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, and others.

   A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall
	   (Where have you been my blue-eyed son?) [Pete Seeger; Bob Dylan?]
Dylan

   I'm My Own Grandpa
	   (It was many many years ago when I was 23...)
Latham and Jaffe.,  I don't know who they are, but that's the credit
given on the Muppet's "Silly Songs" LP.

   Lemon Tree
	   (...very pretty, and the lemon flower is sweet...) [Peter, Paul & Mary]
Recorded earlier by Harry Belefonte.

   Spanish Pipe Dream
	   (She was a level headed dancer on the road to alcohol...) [Steve Seskin]
John Prine

   Such Is Love
	   (After all I've come to know me...) [Peter, Paul & Mary]
By Paul Stookey, with music based on an old clasical piece.

   Who Killed Davy More
	   (...how come he died and what's the reason for...) [Pete Seeger]
Bob Dylan

   Will the Circle be Unbroken
	   (I was standing by my window...)
A.P. Carter.  Mother Maybelle's brother in law, or so my wife thinks.

   Would You Like To Learn to Dance?
	   (...well I can show you how...) [Mary Travers]
Steve Goodman

   Wynken, Blynken and Nod
	   (...one night sailed off in a wooden shoe...)
By Eugene Field, actually titled "The Dutch Lullaby".  
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From: jcf@world.std.com (Joseph C Fineman)
Subject: Re: funny math and physics songs
Keywords: math physics
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 03:50:35 GMT

pemantle@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Robin Pemantle) writes:


>I'm trying to locate some funny songs about math and physics...

This may be more tantalizing than helpful, but about 1953 I heard a whole
record of experimental-physics songs, accompanied by a splendid jazz
pianist.  I do not remember its name, and its owners are surely long gone
by now.  One song I partly remember was called "The Cyclotronists'
Nightmare" & began:

	Once upon a midnight dreary,
	The cyclotron crew was weak & weary.
	In walked the boss with a smile so cheery,
	In walked the boss with a very broad smile.
	"Boys" he said, "We've a wonderful chance.
	"Boys" he said, "It'll make you wanna dance.
	"Boys" he said, "We must activate some iron:
	"80 millicuries by half past nine."

		Round & round & round go the deuterons,
		Round & round the magnet swings them,
		Round & round & round go the deuterons,
		Smack! in the target goes the ion beam.

I even remember the tune, if anyone's interested.  Come to think, the
group had "Stooges" in its name.

About 1970 I heard another now nameless record owned by another now
dead man, also dating from the '50s, and lamenting the rise of Big Science:

	Take back your billion dollars!  Let's be physicists again.

Anyone who can complete those songs & get to Boston will be awarded
booze for a night and a bed for a day, absolutely free, by

	Joe
	jcf@world.std.com
From: Robert_Broughton@mindlink.bc.ca (Robert Broughton)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Barenaked Ladies: who is Brian Wilson
Date: 11 Sep 92 05:44:12 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

> Gerry Mulvenna writes:
> 
> >Does anyone out there know who Brian Wilson is in the song on
> >the Barenaked Ladies' new album (Gordon)?
> >
> >Are we supposed to know, or is it perhaps a name that they made up
> >in order to add mystery?
> >--
> >Jacques Vaisey              |     email -> vaisey@cs.sfu.ca
> 
> Is he perhaps the Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys?
> 

Dead certainty. Here's the fourth verse:

And if you want to find me, I'll be out in the sandbox,
Wondering where the hell all the love has gone,
Playing my guitar and building castles in the sun,
and singing "Fun, Fun, Fun". (1)

And from the fifth verse:

I had a dream that I was three hundred pounds...


(1) This is the title of a song Wilson wrote.

"and there'll be fun, fun, fun, 'till her daddy takes the T-bird awaaay."

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"We calm and reassure. We embrace people with the message that we're
all in it together. That our leaders are infallible and that there is
nothing, absolutely nothing wrong." - Miles Drentell, _thirtysomething_
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From: al@nmt.edu (Al Stavely)
Subject: Re: funny math and physics songs
Keywords: math physics
Organization: New Mexico Tech, USA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:12:06 GMT

In article <10SEP199214502521@rover.uchicago.edu> frank@rover.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>	It escapes me who did it, (I thought it was Pete Segar, but my mind
>	is going lately,)maybe the net can help, but you must include the
>	beautiful Woody Guthrie parody, "Talking Atom Blues." I love the line
>	

Unless my memory fails me totally, this is by Sam Hinton.  He's the uncle
(or maybe the great-uncle) of a friend of mine.  I heard Sam do it at the
(old) Ark in Ann Arbor many years ago.

I'm not sure I'd call this a Woody Guthrie parody -- it's just one of many
songs in the "talking blues" genre.

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	- Allan Stavely, New Mexico Tech, USA
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From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Subject: Re: still looking for the authors of these songs
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 17:47:10 GMT

In <LXNyqB8w165w@brewich.hou.tx.us> donal@brewich.hou.tx.us (Donal) writes:

>joslyn@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Cliff Joslyn) writes:

>> jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger) writes:
>> 
>> >In article <TERRYK.92Sep9122218@fenix.encore.com>, terryk@encore.com (Terenc
>> >>
>> >>In article <1992Sep3.002328.14469@parc.xerox.com> putz@parc.xerox.com (Stev
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>   Acres of Clams
>> >>	   (I've traveled this country all over...) [Pete Seeger]
>> >>Old music, from the Scotish song, "Acres of Clans"
>> 
>> >This _has_ to be a joke, surely.  Doesn't it?  It sounds like a
>> >double-barrelled parody to me, anyhow.  
>> 
>> I don't know where the original poster heard this, but in the late
>> 70's Pete and Arlo were touring and protesting Seabrook and supporting
>> the clamshell alliance (the anti-Seabrook group). Arlo did one of his
>> long, silly, rambling, guitar-accompanied stories, this time about
>> giant walking clams. They ended by singing the traditional song we're
>> all referring to, with appropriate lyrics. The final line of the verse
>> was: "Surrounded by acres of clams".

>The complete text to the original and this filk version (by Pete Seeger) can
>be found in _Rise Up Singing_ published by Sing Out! Publications.
>I am sorry but I do not feel like typing in the entire text unless begged to.

>:)


>--------------------
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>(CIS) 76460,1443 
>(SCA) Ld. Donal Dubh, IC of Dun Bruddair, B of the Stargate, K of Ansteorra


How about Ivar Haglund  of Seattle, Washington.  I remember it from the old
Captain Puget shows.  He is the one who started the seafood restaurant chain
"Ivars"...

Oh that TV show was early 60's... *blush*

Crystal
  ;>

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From: magnus@nexto.udac.uu.se (Magnus Ring)
Subject: Re: still looking for the authors of these songs
Organization: UDAC, Uppsala, Sweden
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 07:14:49 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.002328.14469@parc.xerox.com> putz@parc.xerox.com  
(Steve Putz) writes:
>
> ----- Stuff deleted
> 
> Please email me (or post if that's easier) if you know who wrote any of
> the following songs:
> 
> Acres of Clams
> 	(I've traveled this country all over...) [Pete Seeger]
> All-e-Oxen Free
> 	(Time to let the rain fall...) [Kingston Trio? John Denver?]
> Battle of New Orleans
> 	(In 1814 we took a little trip...)
> Don't Go Down to the Quarry
> 	(...in the middle of the night...) [Peter, Paul & Mary]
> Eddystone Light
> 	(My father was the keeper of the...) [Kingston Trio?]
> Everyday
> 	(...its a getting closer...) [Reilly & Maloney; James Taylor]

I think Buddy Holly did the original recording, but I'm not sure if
he wrote it.

> Green, Green
> 	(...it's green they say on the far side of the hill...) [Kingston  
Trio?]
> A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall
> 	(Where have you been my blue-eyed son?) [Pete Seeger; Bob Dylan?]

Bob Dylan.

> How Can I Miss You When You Won't Go Away
> 	(I've talked to your mother I've talked to your dad...)
> I'm My Own Grandpa
> 	(It was many many years ago when I was 23...)
> Jamaica Farewell
> 	(Down the way where the night's are gay...)

I think this is a traditional song.

> Jim Dog
> 	(Every time I go downtown, somebody kicks my dog around...)
> Lemon Tree
> 	(...very pretty, and the lemon flower is sweet...) [Peter, Paul &  
Mary]
> Maria
> 	(Way out west the have a name for rain and wind and fire...)
> Music Speaks Louder than Words
> 	(...it's the only thing that...) [Peter, Paul & Mary]
> There Ain't No Mountains in the State of Kansas
> 	(...there ain't no catfish in the desert sands...) [Reilly &  
Maloney]
> Once I Had a Sweetheart
> 	(...and now I have none...)
> Portland Town
> 	(I was born in Portland Town...) [Joan Baez]
> Spanish Pipe Dream
> 	(She was a level headed dancer on the road to alcohol...) [Steve  
Seskin]
> Such Is Love
> 	(After all I've come to know me...) [Peter, Paul & Mary]
> Today
> 	(Today while the blossoms still cling to the vine...)
> We'll Sing in the Sunshine
> 	(...we'll laugh every day...)
> Who Killed Davy More
> 	(...how come he died and what's the reason for...) [Pete Seeger]

Bob Dylan.

> Will the Circle be Unbroken
> 	(I was standing by my window...)
> Would You Like To Learn to Dance?
> 	(...well I can show you how...) [Mary Travers]
> Wounded Bird
> 	(I watched you go through changes...) [Steve Seskin]
> Wynken, Blynken and Nod
> 	(...one night sailed off in a wooden shoe...)
> 

Buffy Sainte-Marie did this on her 'Sweet America'-album and I'm
almost sure she wrote the music to the trad. lyrics.

> -- 
> Steve Putz <putz@parc.xerox.com>
> Xerox Palo Alto Research Center
> Palo Alto, California


/Magnus Ring

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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: train song tape finished
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 01:47:15 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

mchenry@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu:
>My take on Bullgine Run is that a Bullgine is the device put on the front 
>of a train to clear the track of snow and ice. hence the lyrics:

It has never crossed my mind that this is anything but a sea song.  If
a bullgine is for clearing snow, it's news to me.  "Clear away the
track" simply means "Get out of the way:  Here comes the fastest ship
("the smartest clipper you can find") in these parts."

>In another week we'll get more pay
>Clear away the track and let the bullgine run
>Tell me now are you most done?
>heave away, haul away
>off the Greenland to catch the whale
>Clear away the track and let the bullgine run

Most of these lines, as well as those of other verses, are familiar
from other sea songs, though the familiar Judy Collins version of this
song is greatly speeded up.

>On Coal Tattoo I thought the reference was to an injury that a fireman 
>received on a train, but I could be wrong. If it's a coal train then I 
>think that it's close enough. 

No.  It's a song about a coal miner who's been laid off, nothing more.
The coal tatoo itself is a minor work-related injury.  The only place
trains come in is "laying down track in the hole", which is for cars
to bring out the ore, rather than for full trains.  If you want to
interpret this song as being about trains on that basis, go ahead.

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

  The surface of the strange, forbidden planet was roughly textured and green,
  much like cottage cheese gets way after the date on the lid says it is all 
  right to buy it.--Scott Jones
From: davidm@hotcity.COM (David Macmillan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Detroit
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:32:11 PST
Organization: BBS


In reply to Stacey Martin's query about Celtic music in Detroit:

The best session around is at Kitty O'Shea's in Ann Arbor (30 to 45
minutes from Detroit, depending on where in Detroit you might be).
Wednesdays starting nominally at 7pm (sometimes it doesn't get rolling
until 8pm), and lasting until people get tired (usually before
midnight).  Terry Murphy also plays (with Colin <forget last name>)
Kitty O'Shea's on Thursday evenings.  (Terry is a fine, fine
musician, and an expert on Celtic and traditional music.  Often he is
forced in bar-gigs to bow to the pressure of pop; O'Shea's is an
intermediate gig, who's nature depends on the audience of the day.)

Terry hosts an open-mic at the Old Shillelagh (in Greektown, downtown
Detroit (Brush and Monroe, I think).  Monday evenings from 9 on.  A
very small open mic (unfortunately), but when those clamoring for Rock
and Roll go away, Terry himself plays traditional music.  Rollande
Krandall (my fiancee) is also frequently here (traditional singing,
depressing ballads, mandolin, ocarina).
Terry plays the Shillelagh on Sunday as well, but this is more of a
pop gig (and I think they want a cover, so I've never been there).
There is also some form of celtic at the Shillelagh on either Tues. or
Thurs.  Call. (I think this is Jim Perkins playing.)

(If you get to the Shillelagh late, and the lot on the Greektown-side
across the street says "Lot Closed - Pay no one," you can park there.
Don't pay anyone (some will try to scam you on this).  Do not park on
the dark side behind the Shillelagh.  Lost a truck there once...)

Call as well at Four Green Fields (Royal Oak, at Woodward and (I
think) 13 Mile).  There's an open-mic hosted by Jim Perkins on Sunday
evening.

Terry plays the Tipperary Pub (off 39, the Southfield freeway, nearish
to Dearborn) on Saturday (I think) and another night (I forget which).

The Gaelic League might still have an session Sunday nights.

In Windsor (Canada, just over the bridge) the Irish-Canadian Cultural
Club has a session on Tuesdays at the Ukranian Hall.

Finally, check the Ark (Ann Arbor) for their schedule (but with the
exception of a few established Ann Arbor groups, they book only
non-local acts. The Ark often has a good fare, but you won't see
Southeastern Michigan on stage there.)

Hope this helps
David M. MacMillan
Off in the Silicon Mines, but going home soon...
davidm@hotcity.com
From: mueller@grmnntp.grump.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: INFO: Jonathan Edwards in NJ from OS&S
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:18:25 -0400
Organization: Grumman Space & Electronics systems - Princeton

 Well, we're back!
(just when you thought it was safe to drive to the Bottom Line)

After a very frustrating yet rewarding summer where the attendances were low
but the productions remained consistently high.

 If they should return, be sure to check out Four Men and A Dog and Don Henry-
they were excellent.  And, if you can believe it, Satan and Adam were twice as
dangerous as last year.

After a well deserved August break, "Outta" Sights & Sounds returns with a
strong fall/winter line up. Leading the pack is the very first concert in
our new performance series, Folk Classics.  This new series will focus on
performers in folk and world music who have stayed at the forefront of their
craft throughout their careers. Not single-album debut artists, we have long
enjoyed their music and their concerts.

To inaugurate this series, we have selected Mr. Jonathan Edwards.  For over
twenty years, Jonathan's music has entertained and delighted us all, from the
first album's pop hits 'Everybody Knows Her', Don't Cry Blue and the immortal
'Sunshine'; to the albums Honky Tonk Stardust Cowboy and Have A Good Time For
Me, to his work with Emmylou Harris, the album Sailboat, 1984's Blue Ridge with
bluegrass legend The Seldom Scene and finally to Little Hands, a children's
album.  Jonathan Edwards has recently returned with The Natural Thing, produced
by Wendy Waldman.

Mixing guitar, banjo, piano, harp and voice, Jonathan Edwards has very few
equals in the "one-man concert" category.

Now, Jonathan brings his magic to the stage live in concert in Hightstown NJ
for the premiere offering of the Folk Classics series.

The show is set for Saturday, September 19, 1992 at 8 pm at our wonderful Grace
Norton Rogers School Theater, on Stockton Street in Hightstown, NJ.

Tickets are available for $10 in advance and will be $12 at the door.

For all information and purchases,  please call John Bates at (609) 890-0808
or E-Mail Jim Mueller at JMUELLER@usc.pppl.gov
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From: johne@vcd.hp.com (John Eaton)
Subject: Re: looking for the authors of these songs
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:41:14 GMT

KR#4 (KR#4@lafibm.lafayette.edu) wrote:
: 
: >That's the Way That the World Goes 'Round (I was sitting in the
: >bathtub...)
: 
: --  by John Prine
----------------------
John was doing a concert when some girl asked if he was going to do the
enchilada song.Puzzled he asked which song she was referring to and was
told, "You know....It's half an enchilada and you think your going to drown".


And she was serious.


John Eaton
!hp-vcd!johne
From: Robert_Broughton@mindlink.bc.ca (Robert Broughton)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Barenaked Ladies: who is Brian Wilson
Date: 11 Sep 92 05:47:59 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

And another thing: "Brian Wilson" is my favorite song on "Gordon". I find it
haunting.
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"We calm and reassure. We embrace people with the message that we're
all in it together. That our leaders are infallible and that there is
nothing, absolutely nothing wrong." - Miles Drentell, _thirtysomething_
From: wrp@pslsrv1.gvl.unisys.com (Bill Pringle)
Subject: Re: Still more on Cheryl Wheeler
Organization: Paramax Systems, Ivyland, PA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 01:00:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.135534.18020@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> kdawson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Kathryn E Dawson) writes:
>I must have been asleep the first time I heard, "Circles and Arrows",
>tend to be after a while).  Like a previous poster, I loved, "Estate Sale."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You realize that you have a rare CD there?  Circles and Arrows is out
of print, and it is extremely difficult to find.
----------------------------------------------------------------
>"Half a book", where her songwriting ability was even more overwhelming.
>One of the best things about her albums is the diversity.  Even the
>background instruments are wildly varied, from fiddle to piano to guitar
>to saxophone to congas.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
She also has a self-titled album, plus cuts on a number of compilation
CDs.  See my discography wheeler.dsc in the music ftp archives.
----------------------------------------------------------------
>I'm so excited that she's doing a concert here in Columbus OH in November.
>I can't say enough about her stuff.  Buy it!!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You are in for a treat!  Be prepared to be surprised.  I have everything
she ever recorded, and she still does about half un-recorded songs.
Not only that, but I swear she does a new song each concert.


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From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Running off with a gypsy (was: Re: Lyric requests (Gypsy Rover)
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 04:35:45 GMT

Hmmmm...

Just how many ballads are there that use this same subject
matter? I've heard of "Raggle Taggle Gypsy" and at least two
very different songs called "Black Jack Davy" (in one, Black 
Jack Davy was the husband looking for his lady who'd run off
with the gypsy, in the other, Black Jack Davey _is_ the person 
who runs off with the wife!)...




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From: thughes@lonestar.utsa.edu (Toby . Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,alt.guitar.tab
Subject: Re: still looking for the authors of these songs
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:25:17 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <P3J5qB2w165w@brewich.hou.tx.us> donal@brewich.hou.tx.us (Donal) writes:
>readdm@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (David M. Read) writes:
>
>> In article <> putz@parc.xerox.com (Steve Putz) writes:
>> >Battle of New Orleans
>> >	(In 1814 we took a little trip...)
>>
>> Several people have posted that the words come from "Jimmy Driftwood,"
>> but every recording I've ever heard of this song has been by Johnny
>> Horton.  It's on his "greatest hits" LP, I know for sure.
>>
>> Anyone care to resolve this question?
>
>According to Sing Out publications, the words were written by Jimmy
>Driftwood and the music was a traditional piece called "The 8th of
>January". (C) 1957, 1959 Warden Music Co.
>
>There. resolved.
>


Knowing much more about folk music than about computers, I have to ask this.
Do some folks on this discussion group not get everything that's posted?  We
seem to be answering the same questions over and over, particularly the one
about "Battle of New Orleans."

TH
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