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From: jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner)
Newsgroups: alt.brother-jed
Subject: Re: Computer and Demon Graz'zt
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:09:36 GMT
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a while back there was an anti-Jed conspiracy where people who
read this group would walk up to him and say "Gnirut is watching you!"
apparently it worked for a while, until someone explained the
net to him & that "Gnirut" is the reversed name of a rather
famous figure in computing.

jason

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From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: alt.brother-jed
Subject: Re: Jed & his ilk
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:16:10 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Oct15.171648.10564@uoft02.utoledo.edu>, jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu
(jason 'Think!' steiner) writes:

> i'd imagine most of the readers of this group probably don't have
> much to good to say about Christianity in general. 

I'd imagine that you would be wrong. Remember that this is "alt.brother-jed"
NOT "alt.FAN.brother-jed".  I don't believe that many people here approve
of the Far Right Brother-Jedster's methods.

> these people are not representative of all Christians. 

When you see these people, ask them if Jesus would do what they are doing.
Ask them if Jesus did what they have done.  Ask them if Jesus would approve
of their actions.

No matter what they answer, it will cause them to think about what they
are doing -- and that's what's important -- getting them to THINK.

Terry
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From: rsvanc00@mik.uky.edu (Randolph S. Vance)
Subject: Re: Is he the same guy?
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 04:18:02 GMT

Rev. Jeb Stuart Macgruder is a Presbyterian Minister
of a church here in Lexington Kentucky.

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From: rsvanc00@mik.uky.edu (Randolph S. Vance)
Subject: Re: Brother TOM sighting in Iowa
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Path: rsvanc00
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 23:55:22 GMT

That irritating little cocksucker does get around, doesn't he?

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From: jswarts@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Swarts)
Subject: Is he the same guy?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 02:51:40 GMT


I have heard that our fine example of moderation in evangelism, Brother Jeb, 
who by the way makes regular visits to the Oval here at OSU - stop by some 
time, for those of you uninitiated into the Jeb phenomenon - is really Jeb 
Stuart Magruder, the Nixon White House hack who did time in the big house? Can 
anyone verify this?

                           J. Swarts
                           Political Science Dept.
                           The Ohio State University
Newsgroups: alt.brother-jed
From: jleitzel@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James W Leitzel)
Subject: Re: Jed's Last Name?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:01:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.151055.10528@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jleitzel@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James W Leitzel) writes:
>In article <1bjfq5INNr2@venture.ksu.ksu.edu> tilden@venture.ksu.ksu.edu (Jeffery A Bohning) writes:
>>
>>What is Jed's last Name?
>>
>>JAB
>
>
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Oops.

	I meant to say - The right Reverend Jed Smock.


jim

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From: chyde@pecos.ads.com (Clinton Hyde)
Subject: Re: SWF's & SBM's - Does Society Worry Way Too Much???
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mountain View, CA 94043, +1 (415)
	960-7300
	<1992Oct2.224851.29407@ms.uky.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:52:40 GMT


i'll echo the stats--I've NEVER (that I recall) seen a white male with
a black female. most any other 'minority', but not black.

(all right, I've been guilty of same, having dated vietnamese and
phillipine women)

why is this?

i'd guess it's more historical/cultural than anything else.

 -- clint
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From: joshua@acpub.duke.edu (Joshua Goldie)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: How long has it been?
Date: 9 Oct 92 23:04:35 GMT


How long has it been??  I've got a better question...


How long have we been talking about this worthless, boring topic ?? :)

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From: stuarta@syd.dms.CSIRO.AU (Stuart Andrews)
Subject: Re: What to bring on a first date?
Organization: CSIRO Division of Mathematics and Statistics, Australia
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:18:41 GMT

What to bring on a 1st date.

> What about a condom?

What?, on a _First_ date?

Sorry, I don't do that on first dates...

Geoff

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From: 00llhamilton@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: First Date ?
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:38:04 GMT

In article <BvL6Ep.3KC@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, lfm54477@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Libor F. Michalek) writes:
> O.K. I'm sick of doing the same thing on a first date(movie diner).
> I think alot of guys would like to know from the ladies out there
> what they like to do on a first date. I know it depends on what guy
> your with but I need specifics. I live in a typical college town 
> UIUC (University of Illinois Champaign Urbana) and theres always
> plenty to do (like go out drinking) but I'm looking for something
> new something different. 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Libor ( )
>        ^
>        |________ Worlds shortest wity sig. 

Just thought I would give you guys a helpful hand on what women like on 
the first date.  The movies, dinner, and your place is nice BUT what we
enjoy most is when a man is creative on a date.  I am a college student
at Ball State University and I know that men can't always afford to take
women out to an extragant restaurant.  So here are just a few examples of
what would make a woman fall head over heals (taken from the MGT 417 class):
	1.  Taking a walk along the river just around the time that the
	sun is going down.
	2.  Instead of cooking at your place have a picnic at a park.
	3.  If you are athletic, invite her to play a  sport with you and
	teach her how to play.  For example, a good  sport that women are
	interested in is racquetball.
	4.  If those things don't interest you then try to be more  creative
	in the things that you plan to do.  If you are cooking dinner at
	your place then make it "candlelight".  If you are going to a movie
	choose a comedy to make things flow easier and afterwards do something
	like go play "putt-putt" or go bowling. 
These are just a "few" of the things that men can do to make a woman
interested.   This isn't for only college men but for you older men too. 
You're never too old for a good time!

Just call me Buffy...
From: frubc@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Miss K Gupta)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Inter-racial relationships. What do you think?
Date: 15 Oct 1992 10:26:32 +0100
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk

In article <Bw05D0.DDA@syd.dms.CSIRO.AU> stuarta@syd.dms.CSIRO.AU 
(Stuart Andrews) writes:
[...]
>I'd like to 'hear' post from others who enjoy this type of preference.
>Anybody lucky enough to enjoy a relationship with someone of a diff
>race. Do you have hassles because you are different 'colours'. 
[...]
  Well, I wouldn't say that I _prefer_ people of a different race - in fact,
that sort of thing means very little to me. But my SO does happen to be of a
different race. I've never had any hassle about it, although that may well be
because we met at University and people tend to be fairly laid back about such
things there...

  In fact, there's only really one hassle in the whole thing - I've finished
uni now, and I'm normally 100+ miles away... ;-(

  Well, except this weekend *8-)

hugs,
	Pete
From: damong@manyjars.WPI.EDU (Damon Francis Gentile)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Seeking some friendly (perhaps more) advice
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:45:34 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: manyjars.wpi.edu

Hello all. I've been reading lots of newsgroups lately and it seems that fellow
netters are pretty much down to earth, so  I figured I'd ask my question here.

I've never had much luck with starting conversations out of the blue, and
much less relationships. Last Thursday I had a very brief conversation 
with a girl in one of my classes and noticed that she'd been sitting next
to me for a few days now. When I went to class today I noticed her kindof
staring at me when I glanced over (perhaps to do the same.......) but 
anyway she turned away rapidly. 

So my question is : what is the best way to try to start something out of the
blue ? I'm not necisarily looking for a SO, or a GF for that matter, but I
certainly would not complain. ;) I think that this girl is really cute and 
she is very intelligent. 

But the problem : there are only 3 more classes.... Tuesday, Thursday and
the Final is Friday. :(

Please send any suggestions along, either here or email.

Much apreciated,
Damon

damong@wpi.wpi.edu
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: smersch@eng.clemson.edu (Steve)
Subject: WANTED: long distance favor in PA.
Reply-To: smersch@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:25:53 GMT

I'm trying to reach an old friend who lives near Kennywood and thought that
someone with a flair for the romantic might want to help.





Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: virgo@metter.fmpmis.metter.com (Paul Virgo)
Subject: Some of MY favorite love songs...
Summary: I based most of my past relationships on these songs...
Keywords: Once you read them,you'll understand why they're past relationships
Organization: Metters Industries, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:02:27 GMT


Since folks are posting some of their favorite love songs, I decided to
do the same...and if you have a problem with that, YO! YOU WANNA PIECE OF ME!!??
YEAH??? OKAY WE CAN TAKE THIS OUTSIDE,MAN!!!!--oops,sorry,got carried away..

On with the list:

"Hell Was Nothing Till I Fell in Love With You"
"I Can Never Love You Enough--Especially When You Get Paid.."
"Love Me--or Let Me at Least Borrow Your Car..."
"YOU'RE WHAT!??--"
"Every Time I Kiss Her,I Think of You--So I Kiss Her Some More"
"Is This Love--Or Just a Bad Batch of Lasagna I Ate Last Night??"
"When Love Calls---I Hang Up"
"When Love Calls---I Turn On The Answering Machine"(1992 version)
"When You Love Someone--Does It Mean You Put Up With Their Immaturity,
 Bitchiness,Sarcasm,and Stupidity Just to Get a Mediocre Night of Passion?"
"I've Been Through the Love Blender"(1985 version)
"I've Been Through the Love Cuisinart"(1991 version)
"Wine Me,Dine Me--Now Get Outta' My Face..."
"If I Could Be With You--I'd Rather Be Alone"
"Take My Heart and Hold It--Drop it,and I'm History"
"You Are the Typhoon Of My Life"
"You Light Up My Life--Kinda' Like a Prison Electric Chair"
"Loving You Long Distance--Making Out With Her Real Close"
"I'll Do Anything For You--Until I Eventually Wise Up Someday"
"Stalled Out at The Stop Light of Love--With No Tow Truck In Sight"
"I Love You More Than Chili--and I Looooove Chili"

And many,many more...

Ahhhhh,well I hope you enjoyed these as much as I did...strange, I can't
seem to remember the individual singers. Oh well...

curious"I've been through the love GINSU"virgo
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From: weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Hunt them down and kill them (ALSO Advice on Long Distance Romance)
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:13:08 GMT
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <00961ECD.D43265C0@Msu.oscs.montana.edu> gcv2010@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes:
...
>On that note:  I see a lot of people replying "forget him/her, move on, date
>others, they're not worth it"  etc., ad nauseum.  How about tips for forgetting
>and moving on?  For example, I've been dating others, but no one even begins to
>compare to the one who stole my heart.  So, either someone has some tried and
>true advice or I'm just going to give up and be the little old lady in the
>house on the corner with 100 cats.  
>
>Cheryl
>

Yes, I have heard this before. I think it is bad advice. First, no one but
you knows whether you should give up on someone. Others will tend to tell
you to give up at the drop of a hat. Second, once you have decided you
should give up on someone, you are not just going to forget them. It will
take time. Moving on is easier. You just start by acting as though you 
had forgotten about the other person. As time goes on, there is less 
and less pretending involved, and then you have moved on.

When you say 'no one...compares', I think you are showing false expectations.
No one is going to be exactly the same as someone else, and you are not
going to be able to fully appreciate another person until you know them
well.

I think how you handle this depends a lot on what went on between you and
him/her. Some people think they had a perfect relationship, and they want
to recover that. In this case, I think you have to realize that what you
want is the relationship, and decide that you can make another relationship
that will satisfy you. 

Myself, I tend to idealize the other person and see any shortcomings in
the relationship as just incidental obstacles to being with that
person. I need to remind myself that these shortcomings are the results
of shortcomings of the other person, as well as myself.  That is, I
have to remind myself that I have to take the person as a whole and not
just see their good points and ignore their bad points.

Besides 'forget him/her', the conventional advice is that you need to
learn to love yourself. If you are stuck on someone who is not there
for you or not good for you, clearly you are being too dependent.  You
are 'in love', wanting to receive rather than to give. Learn better to
give yourself love, and you will learn better to give others love.  The
more you can unconditionally give love, the more love you will
receive.  Or, you can start the other way around: learn to give others
love and you will learn likewise to give yourself love.


Peace,
Michael.
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: chyde@pecos.ads.com (Clinton Hyde)
Subject: Re: Inter-racial relationships. What do you think?
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mountain View, CA 94043, +1 (415)
	960-7300
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:12:59 GMT


Abos, hmm? sounds like you'z one o' them heathen preverts, bwah.  :)

seriously, under slightly different circumstances, I'd have married a
vietnamese woman back in 86/87. it was almost eerie to attend her
wedding a couple years later, and suddenly realize it might have been
me on stage there...

Sydney, Oz. is there ANY large city that isn't fairly multicultural?

 -- clint
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From: dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Rings and fingers.
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:25:38 GMT
Reply-To: dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley)
Organization: BNR Europe Limited, London Road, Harlow, Essex, GB

In the referenced article PCT601%SIRIUS.UKC.AC.UK@ib.rl.ac.uk (Robryche) writes:
[Is the left ring-finger only for engagement rings?]
>
>Anyway. To the point... Does anybody have a DEFINITIVE answer to the question
>of usage of rings and fingers? Not that it would make much difference.
>

Definitive: it happened to me! ;-) ;-) ;-)

Deja vu. My ex & I did exactly the same thing. Upset her mother no end!
:-) <evil> Great stuff. Go for it!

BTW, don't rely too much on the deterrent bit though -- it ultimately
failed in our case. (Whether she bothered to take both engagement &
eternity rings off, who knows or cares?! :-\)

Be careful though -- if you get her an engagement ring later as well as
the eternity ring, she could bugger off with *twice* as much gold as just
keeping to the one! ;-) <even eviller> (Also got caught like this. :-()

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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: Michel Goudeseune <marcelg@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: LOVE conquers all
Organization: ZOOiD BBS
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 03:28:35 GMT

"Paul S. Hrynko" <ph2a+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>     This is my first time on alt.romance and I hope that I can
>contribute.  A few years ago, I from a immature, pleasure-seeking boy
>into a caring and loving person.  I needed something higher than sexual
>gratification.  I became extremely deep internally, and set my goals
>beyond the sexual.
>
>     I believe that the object of life is love and love isn't something
>that our brain creates for sex.  Love transcends life; I believe that
>souls can be united forever.  A lover has the key to the lock of your
>heart, enabling you to experience emotions, feelings, warmth never
>thought possible.
>

First, welcome to alt.romance.  You may want to check out alt.romance.chat 
(or ARC, as it's known) as well.  

>    Does anyone agree, disagree, etc.  I'd be curious to find out.

Hmm.  Yes and no.

I'm very careful about giving that much power to *any* other person.  I used
to think that "She" was out there, waiting for me to find her, and that when I
did, "She" would fill all my needs for me.  Yah, right.  Reality check time.

I think Madonna said it best in _Something to Remember_, from the I'm
Breathless CD:  "Love yourself, or nobody else can."  I believe that a lover
can help you to experience emotions that are otherwise not possible.  However,
relying on one person to fill that need for you can be disastrous if
*anything* goes wrong.

As an aside, I have given up on trying to find "Her".  I've decided to get on
with my life, have a great time, and see what happens.  Nothing has
materialized yet, but I'm still getting my need for closeness met in other
ways.

I hope I didn't stray too far off-topic.

Michel
Official Pronker of the RFA             marcelg@zooid.guild.org
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
From: gcv2010@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Subject: Re: how to tell if you are in love
Reply-To: gcv2010@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 16:35:49 GMT

In article <16021@umd5.umd.edu>, heckler@lab5.smcm.edu (David B. Heckler) writes:
>Love or Infatuation?
>
>Infatuation is instant desire. It is one set of glands calling
>to another. Love is friendship that has caught fire. It takes
>root and grows -- one day at a time.
>Infatuation is marked by a feeling of insecurity. You are
>excited and eager, but not genuinely happy. There are nagging
>doubts, unanswered questions, little bits and pieces about your
>beloved that you would as soon not examine.
>Love is quiet understanding and the mature acceptance of imperfection.
>It is real. It gives you strength and grows beyond you, to bolster
>your beloved. You are warmed by his presence, even when he is
>away. Miles do not seperate you. But near or far, you know he is
>yours and you can wait.
>Infatuation says, "We must get married right away. I can't risk
>losing him."
>Love says, "Be patient. Don't panic. Plan your future with 
>confidence."
>Infatuation has an element of sexual excitement. If you are honest,
>you will admit it is difficult to be in one another's company
>unless you are sure it will end in intimacy. Love is the
>maturation of friendship. You must be friends before you can 
>be lovers.
>Infatuation lacks confidence. When he's away, you wonder if he's
>cheating. Sometimes you check.
>Love means trust. You are calm, secure and unthreatened. He
>feels that trust, and it makes him even more trustworthy.
>Infatuation might lead you to do things you'll regret later,
>but love never does.
>Love is an upper. It makes you look up. It makes you think up. 
>It makes you a better person than you were before.
>

I think you need to give credit to Ann Landers for this one.


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Newsgroups: alt.romance
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 09:40:12 -0400 
From: "Andrea B. Gansley-Ortiz" <ag1v+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Won't have Sex with a Fat Guy

Excerpts from netnews.alt.romance: 14-Oct-92 Re: Won't have Sex with a
F.. by keith garrard@cnmhnet.UU 
> I don't blame her at all.  She should be upset with her
> husband for not taking care of himself.  She has told him
> how she feels.  If he doesn't do anything about it, then
> she should dump him and get someone with some self respect.

My reaction to this is 'Whoa, wait a minute. What about for better
or for worse?" Yes if it's part of the prenuptual agreement then
that's fine. But just because your spouse has gained wait is no
reason to 'dump' them. This isn't dating. This is a lifelong 
commitment that they've made to eachother. This sounds like she's
not supposed to give him any support at all.

I think she handled the situation poorly. She seems to already
understand that. However, I think the two of them should get to
marriage counseling if her reaction was that out of the blue 
without unsubtle hinting. The description seems to say that they
have a communication problem. But she and her husband would be 
the best at judging that.

If she wants to ammend the situation, she might consider apoligizing.

ag