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From: moncrg@iear.arts.rpi.edu (gregory d moncreaff)
Subject: Re: Future Domain SCSI Driver?
Organization: the committee for asethetic deletions
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:33:27 GMT

In article <38480001@hpmwtss.sr.hp.com> chrish@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Chris Hentz) writes:
>I'm looking for the driver to support the Future Domain TMC-16X0 
>series SCSI board.  The "Hardware Compatibility List" that came 
>with the NT SDK kit says that it will be posted on CompuServe.
>I don't see it there, so thought I would try here for it.  If anyone
>has an answer to this, please let me know.
>
>Thanks,
>Chris Hentz
>Hewlett-Packard
>Network Measurements Division
>chrish@sr.hp.com

please post reponses, i and others, i am sure, would appreciate it...
thanks,
g
-- 
gregory d moncreaff moncrg@iear.arts.rpi.edu moncrg@rpi.edu
From: marc@manta.dwp.la.ca.us (Marc Hall x4735)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Trantor SCSI host adaptor support for Windows NT
Date: 11 Aug 92 23:24:23 GMT
Organization: Los Angeles Dept. of Water & Power


  I will be installing the preliminary Windows NT release on a ZEOS laptop
(386DX, 8MB Ram, 202 MB IDE Drive, half-height 8 bit slot) and have been
looking for CD-ROM package that would be supported under Windows NT. 
The Trantor MiniSCSI Plus Parallal-to-SCSI host adaptor would be an ideal
solution as the 8 bit slot is already occupied. No Trantor SCSI host
controllers are listed in the  Windows NT supported hardware list but 
the list does include CD Technology CD Porta-Drive T-3301 and NEC CDR-73(M) 
CD-ROMs. In the reviews I have read the T-3301 is supplied with either 
the Trantor MiniSCSI (T339 ?) or Trantor T128 (8 bit half-height card) 
host controller. The NEC CDR-73(M) is also supplied with the 
Trantor T128 contoller.

 Is the CD Technology T-3301 and Trantor MiniSCSI combination supported 
    under Windows NT ?

 Is the CD Technology T-3301 and Trantor T128 combination supported 
    under Windows NT ?

 Is the NEC CDR-73(M) and Trantor T128 combination supported 
    under Windows NT ?

 Will any of the Windows NT supported SCSI host adaptors (particlarly Adaptec
    or Future Domain) fit in an 8bit half-height slot ?  Will any of 
    these support the CD Technology T-3301 ?



 Thanks


-- 
                           Marc Hall    213-481-4735
                     Engineering Computer Support & Development
                       Los Angeles Dept. of Water & Power
                            marc@manta.dwp.la.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: alistair@microsoft.com (Alistair Banks)
Subject: Re: NT beta release, free for developers?
Date: 11 Aug 92 22:26:13 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <3f2mgrq.alextam@netcom.com> alextam@netcom.com (Alexander Tam) writes:
>I bought the pre-release NT on CD-ROM. Since it is not a beta release,
>Microsoft does not recommended to replace Win 3.1 & DOS at this moment.
>Would I be updated with a beta release later, before I receive the final
>release, free? I really want to start using NT exclusively on my computer.
>After reading so many news and article on NT, I notice that Win3.1 + DOS
>cannot compete with NT by all means.


Yes, you'll get updates up to and including the final release - so
you _will_ get something that can replace ms-dos & windows 3.1 -- Alistair
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: newbie@dylan.camb.inmet.com (Chris Newbold)
Subject: Solved first problem - but now not enough memory?!?
Organization: Intermetrics, Inc.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:43:58 GMT

Over the weekend I solved the problem I was experiencing with NT install
hanging when it tried to check my disk configuration. I guess there was
some violent disagreement between the installer and the OS/2 boot manager
partition. Once I removed that, NT install had no trouble reading my
partitions.

However, I now have a couple of other problems. The installation goes
smoothly through the text-based portion. The machine then reboots and the
graphical installation screen comes up. Then I get a dialog box with a
stop sign which says I don't have enough memory.

My machine is 486/33 EISA with 8mb, Adaptec 1542B SCSI and 2 SCSI disks.
While booting, the kernel says I have 8192KB available. Now, I have several`
partitions on my first disk:

	C: 90mb FAT - DOS - Primary partition, bootable
	E: 205mb FAT - Windows - Logical drive in extended partition
	F: 90mb HPFS - OS/2 - Logical drive in extended partition
	G: 110mb FAT - Windows NT - Logical drive in extended partition

I installed NT onto G:. However, when I examined the system after the
install failed, it had put PAGING.SYS (or whatever the name is) on C:. The
first time around there was only 11mb free on C:, so the paging file was
only 10mb. I thought NT needed at least a 20mb paging file, so I freed
up some space on C:. With 32mb free on C:, I reinstalled NT onto G: but
it failed again with the same "Not enough memory" dialog. Again I looked
at the paging file and it was still only 10mb...

So my questions are: Why is the graphical install failing with the
insufficient memory error? Is this because it only made a 10mb paging file?
If so, how can I have it create a larger one? There is enough room on C: now
for a 20mb file. And, more to the point, how can I force it to put the paging
file on G:, where there is gobs of room?

Help!

Thank you for any suggestions.

-Chris

-- 
---- Chris Newbold ---- > "If you fool around with a thing for very long you <
   Intermetrics, Inc.	>  		  will screw it up."		     <
  Opinions and statements expressed are MINE and do NOT represent my employer
			newbie@inmet.camb.inmet.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: alistair@microsoft.com (Alistair Banks)
Subject: Re: Win32 for Windows 3.1
Date: 20 Aug 92 06:47:11 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <713751289snx@vandi.ars.cl> pam@vandi.ars.cl (Pablo Ahumada M.) writes:
>
>Can I use Win32 to develop an 32 bit application for Windows 3.1 now ?

You can develop the apps now with the WIn32 SDK, but the Win32s extensions
aren't available today, so you wont be ablt to test them on Windows 3.1
until the next Win32 SDK update (hopefully) where we intend to make our
first release - this first update is due around the end of Sept

>Is C 7.0 generating 32 bit code now ?

The WIn32 SDK includes a 32-bit c/c++ compiler - its version number is
immaterial to the problem!

-- Alistair
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: alistair@microsoft.com (Alistair Banks)
Subject: Re: I too have unable to print the PS files
Date: 20 Aug 92 06:37:46 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1992Aug10.180051.3140@titan.ksc.nasa.gov> prevo@blot.ksc.nasa.gov (Joe Prevo) writes:
>
>I was really anxious to get my NT CDROM in the mail this weekend. But after
>failing to print any of the manuals on any of the Postscript printers I have
>available, I must say I'm more than a little discouraged. Does anyone know
>what printer the documents were targeted for?
>
>Help Microsoft (Alistair, anybody)! How can I get more generic postscript
>files or ".DOC"s which I can print on a DEC or QMS laser printer?

These files were intended to be generic - at least as generic as postscript
is - but with the problems I've been seeing here, and on compuserve, we
can see that it's far from perfect - please note, at least some people
have been reporting succes here, so check with them and learn how they
succeeded - the intent is that you simply "copy filename.ps lpt1" or
similar, and that works for us - but postscipt printers have so many
options and settings, and networks and other OSes add to the complexity. We
certainly will consider what other formats to put on the disk as well
next time - the docs are written using winword 2 (FYI) -- Alistair
From: shite@sinkhole.unf.edu (Stephen Hite)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: WinNT's missing features?
Keywords: WinNT, Unix
Date: 14 Aug 92 11:12:16 GMT
Organization: University of North Florida, Jacksonville

In article <1992Aug05.193807.22801@microsoft.com> johnhall@microsoft.com (John Hall) writes:
>In article lateiner@cs.unc.edu (Joshua Lateiner) writes:
>| To everyone at Microsoft working on WinNT:
>| 1) The ability for NT to act as a true multi-user O/S (ie, have several
>| different users, each with their own personalized environment, all working
>| off of one machine).  If WinNT is really supposed to be an O/S, a GUI and a
>| NOS (Network Operating System) all rolled into one, then this lacking feature
>| surely compromises its ability as an NOS.  Serious computer installations need
>| a real multi-user O/S.  What is the point of running NT on a high-end
>| server (I heard MS folks say they wanted to position WinNT as a server O/S as
>| well as a client) as opposed to running Unix, if one would have to give up the
>
>486DX/33 boxes now cost less, in real terms, than terminals used to.
>Pushing processing power down with centralized servers with multiple
>people sharing the centralized CPU is no longer a compelling strategy
>compared to giving everyone a CPU and sharing resources.
>

    Yep, scratch the multi-user and across the network X-style environment
when talking about WinNT and Win 3.1.  However, the argument still remains
that out of the box, they both should allow for personalized setups for
individual users (the Mac should be able to do this to).  In a corporate
environment, it's very reasonable to assume that more than one user can
and will use the same box and each user would like to setup their specific 
environment with as few adjustments as possible (upon their initial setup).
It's a human factors issue and I'm very surprised Microsoft and Apple (most 
of all Apple) have not explored (and published) the possibilities to 
this point.

Steve Hite
shite@sinkhole.unf.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: alistair@microsoft.com (Alistair Banks)
Subject: Re: PWB on NT
Date: 20 Aug 92 06:50:46 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1992Aug14.161822.5060@raid.dell.com> samf@yosemite.dell.com (Sam Fuller) writes:
>It seems to me that at one time I PWB actually appeared in the
>\mstools\bin directory of my NT system.  I don't know how it got there
>and I haven't been able to get it back.
>
>Now I wonder if it was all just a bad dream.  I'am not a real bin fan of
>PWB but for editing code I prefer it immensely to MEP.

No, it was a dream. We put MEP in the Win32 SDK, but PWB isn't
ported, and isn't anywhere - the languages group are developing a
complete toolset, the details of which I can't talk about -- Alistair
From: demillo@juliet.ll.mit.edu ( Robert DeMillo )
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Question on CDROM device support.
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:12:39 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: M.I.T. Lincoln Lab - Group 43


I just received my Win32 SDK CDROM the other night, and I
have a few device support questions:

(a) My system uses an Always Technology SCSI board. When will this be supported?

(b) My CDROM is actually part of my Soundblaster Pro MM upgrade kit. The Win32 SDK
    setup obviously doesn't recognize this because it looks on the SCSI board
    (whihc it can;t find on my machine anyway, see (a) ) for the CDROM. Since
    Win32 and Win/NT support the Soundblaster board itself, I assume that it
    will, at some point in the future, support the CDROM as well. Is this true?

Anyone that can answer these questions will get my undying graditude. (Well,
a hardy "Thank You!" at any rate.) 

There is an interesting point here: there is *no one* on the MS phone lines
who can answer this question. As a matter of fact, after being routed around on
the phone for 45+ minutes, I was flatly told that they would *refuse* to answer
this question, as all support for Win32 and Win/NT was being done through 
CompuServe. Is anyone else annoyed at this policy?

--


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   MIT Lincoln Lab 		| America Online: exgalileo@aol.com
   Weather Sensing - Group 43	| Reality:        617-981-2105 (office)

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	--- Tom Servo, "Gamera vs. Gaos," Mystery Science Theater 3000
From: bobp@hal.com (Bob Pendelton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Win64?
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:16:43 GMT
Organization: HaL Computer Systems, Inc.

Since NT has been ported to the alpha and r4000, both 64 bit
architectures, can we expect a 64 bit Windows API at some point int
the future? The reason I ask is because 32 bit pointers just aren't
long enough for a lot of apps. And I'd hate to think that on a 64 bit
machine with N Gbytes of memory I'd have to use some weird kinds of
handles to access memory beyond the 4G barrier (only 2 Gs under NT).

			Bob P.

-- 
Bob Pendleton             | As an engineer I hate to hear:
bobp@hal.com              |   1) You've earned an "I told you so."
Speaking only for myself. |   2) Our customers don't do that.
                   <<< Odin, after the well of Mimir. >>>
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: pons@jupiter.csd.unb.ca (pons)
Subject: Has anyone used Global32Alloc?
Keywords: 32 bit memory
Organization: Computer Science, University of New Brunswick
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:16:49 GMT

I am trying to use the function Global32Alloc with the SDK version 3.1, 
Windows 3.1 and Microsoft C Version 7.0.  When I call the function I get the 
error:
   General Protection Fault in module WINMEM32.DLL at
                  0001:019E
									
Where might the problem be????

PLEASE POST RESPONSE 

Lisa Mullin
Faculty of Computer Science
University of New Brunswick
N.B., Canada
email N96Q@UNB.CA
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32,comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: kevin@edscom.demon.co.uk (Kevin Broadey)
Subject: Re: Installing Windows NT on a Dell 486P/33
Organization: EDS-Scicon, Milton Keynes, UK
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:08:13 GMT

In article <KEVIN.92Aug11180127@buffalobill.edscom.demon.co.uk> I wrote:

   We're having fun and games at the moment trying to get Windows NT up and
   running on a Dell 486P/33.  The machine just crashes whenever we try to boot
   it.

   Has anyone succeeded in getting it to work?  Any suggestion will be more
   than welcome.

Sam Fuller at Dell Computer Corporation Advanced Systems Development mailed me
the following reply:-

   Be sure that your BIOS is A08 or above.  Other than that you shouldn't have
   any problems with the Dell hardware.  If you could be more specific about
   your hardware configuration I will try to help you out.

   The bios on earlier P and D serires machines will only return 16Meg for a
   bios memory size query.  Interestingly, this is the way it's supposed to
   work, per original IBM-AT documentation.  The flash update should be
   available from tech support.

Hope this helps someone.
-- 
Kevin Broadey, EDS-Scicon
Mail:	Wavendon Tower, Wavendon, Milton Keynes, MK17 8LX, England
E-mail: kbroadey@edscom.demon.co.uk
Phone:	+44 908 284198 or +44 908 585858 ext 4198
From: bert.tyler@satalink.com (Bert Tyler)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Compuserve Access
Date: 21 Aug 92 10:17:00 GMT
Reply-To: bert.tyler@satalink.com (Bert Tyler)
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434

MD>  Personally, I found it difficult to muck around in CompuserveLand.
MD>  I can't browse quickely and easily.  Not like with a good news
MD>  reader (trn is my current favorite).

As with Unix and Usenet, a good access program is vital in the Compuserve
world.  Logging onto Compuserve manually is not for the faint of heart
(or light of wallet) <grin>.

I use TAPCIS, an MS-DOS-based shareware package that completely
automates (and minimizes) my Compuserve access.  Other folks prefer
the freeware ATO package.  Both packages are designed to minimize
your pay-by-the-minute access time, and both packages do an excellent
job of it.

Both packages let you preselect which forum/message areas you wish to
access, then tell the package to automatically dial in to Compuserve,
collect all of the new message subjects, and quickly logoff again.
Then you mark any and all of the messages that you want to read and
the package dials onto Compuserve, collects the messages, and logs off
again.  This "double-clutching" method may seem a bit wierd to you
Usenet folks, but it's really quite fast and saves a *lot* of access
time.  (You can also tell the programs to run in a single pass,
reading all of the new messages in an area automatically.  I do
that in some forums.)

Creating and replying to messages is similarly fast and easy.  With
both packages, you enter your messages when you're not online.
Downloading files is also automated, and uses the Compuserve B+
protocol with which the CIS network seems to work best.

The folks at Compuserve are quite happy to have packages like TAPCIS and
ATO available.  They know they make a lot more money off of the long-term
addict who gets some value for his expenditures than the new user who
uses Compuserve for a month or two, sees his/her first bill, and drops
dead of a heart attack <grin>.

TAPCIS can be found by entering the TAPCIS forum ("/go tapcis") and
looking in Library 1 for files named "tapcis.*".  I'm not sure where
ATO can be found - maybe someone else can dive in here and bail me out.

                   Bert Tyler   (bert.tyler@satalink.com)
---
 . DeLuxe./386 1.25 #343sa . Did you expect mere proof to sway my opinion?
From: boltr@nic.cerf.net (Rory Bolt)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: File system switches
Summary: Can you stack file systems under NT
Keywords: NT, file systems
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:45:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: CERFnet

Hello,
	Does NT support a file system switch and stackable files
systems similar to vnode based UNIXs? In particular would it be 
possible to implement something similar to Sun Microsystem's 
Translucent File System (TFS)? For those unfamiliar with Sun's TFS, 
it allows a user to stack a normal file system over the read only file
system of a CD Rom. To the user it appears as a read/write file
system; a read/modify/write operation would migrate the file from
the CD Rom to the normal file system. From then on all read 
operations are satisfied from the normal file system for this
file; other files which are unmodified are still retrieved from
the CD Rom. All of the migration is transparent to the user, with
the exception that migrated files are generally accessed faster
than unmigrated files.

Thanks in advance,
			Rory


Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: alistair@microsoft.com (Alistair Banks)
Subject: Re: SoftPC Error Message:
Date: 21 Aug 92 02:45:34 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1992Aug20.063314.12530@microsoft.com> alistair@microsoft.com (Alistair Banks) writes:
>In article <1498@sousa.ltn.dec.com> perkins@gamma1.ltn.dec.com (Eric Perkins) writes:
>>Can someone at Microsoft clear this up?
>>- When running NT on Intel machines what if any role does SoftPC code
>>   play?

OK, I went and asked. We use the v86 bmose to run the code, but once we've
noted that the app is hitting on a virtual device, then we use the same
shared virtualisation code on risc & x86 to reflect the i/o back to the
the physical drivers - so, indeed, you can get the same error messages

-- Alistair
From: donc@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Don Cock)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: Can Flexboot be removed temporarily?
Date: 14 Aug 92 23:22:22 GMT
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA

In article <92225.175802CJS@psuvm.psu.edu> CJS@psuvm.psu.edu (Christopher Sacksteder) writes:
>Is there a way to remove the the flexboot/multiboot/portable booter (I've
>found only 3 names so far!) just temporarily?  Like perhaps renaming on
>of the files or such?
>

There is a file on CI$ called BOOTSE.ZIP that will save the NT boot sector to a normal disk file and also restore it.  I have not yet tried it, but that is
how it is documented.
   
         It is located in WINNT on LIB 4

Just save off the NT boot sector and do a SYS to put the DOS stuff back. Then
you can use BOOTSE to put it back when needed.

-- 
Don Cock                           Internet: donc@spock.dis.cccd.edu
Coast Community College District   1370 Adams Avenue
District Information Services      Costa Mesa, CA, USA  92626
Technical Support                  (714) 432-5079
"... you'll be locked into Cyberspace. Remember to do your work!" B.P. Kehoe
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: Gavin Adams <gavin.adams@lso.mts.dec.com>
Subject: Re: AHA-1542B + NEC CDR-84
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6AE72986001BA10@rodan.jdola.lanl.gov>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 12 Aug 92 07:47:36 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:51:09 GMT

In article <183021@pyramid.pyramid.com> Alexander Tam,
atam@pyrps5.eng.pyramid.com writes:
>I have a NEC CDR-84 CD-ROM drive connected to an Adaptec AHA-1542B.
Since I am
>still waiting for my 486/33 EISA machine to come, NT has not been
installed
>yet. I don't have the Adaptec CD-ROM driver, ASW-410. Do I need it or NT
will
>provide a similar driver? Or, do I need to ask NEC for a CD-ROM driver
instead?
>Does anyone, with the above two hardwares installed in their computer,
get NT
>running without any problems? If, in case, you get some problems in
installatn,
>what kind of trouble is that and how do you solve it? Thank you very,
very
>much in advance for responses.

It's my understanding that you don't need any drivers when installing
Windows NT (from the boot floppy, of course).  Make sure you have the
latest PROM version in your Adaptec though.  I *think* the 1542B had
problems and corrupted hard disks with the older version of the PROM's.

I have a CDR-83J (equiv. of the CDR-84) and an Adaptec 1740.  I haven't
got it to work yet, but I think it is just a termination problem and
laziness. :)

--- Gavin
Visualize Whirled Peas!
From: pap@tempel.az05.bull.com (Pierre Perret)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: Text editor for Windows NT on a MIPS processor
Date: 15 Aug 92 01:05:23 GMT
Reply-To: pap@myths.az05.bull.com
Organization: Bull HN Information Systems Inc., Phoenix Product Division

In article <KEVIN.92Aug14094023@buffalobill.edscom.demon.co.uk>, kevin@edscom.demon.co.uk (Kevin Broadey) writes:
|> Can anyone point me to a decent text editor that will run under Windows NT on a
|> MIPS processor?

I have ported MicroEMACS 3.11c to Windows 3.1 and Windows NT.
Not owning a MIPS machine, I have only been able to deliver
x86 executables. The sources are not yet publicly available
but if someone is interested in trying and porting them
to the MIPS, I will send him the sources (for instance
as a uuencoded ZIP file).

-- 
- Pierre Perret -    Phone: (602) 862-5448   FAX: (602) 862-6105
                  Internet: P.Perret@az05.bull.com
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: joiner@myria.cs.umn.edu (Jay K. Joiner)
Subject: Re: Solved first problem - but now not enough memory?!?
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 01:09:01 GMT

In <1992Aug17.144358.18295@inmet.camb.inmet.com> newbie@dylan.camb.inmet.com (Chris Newbold) writes:

>So my questions are: Why is the graphical install failing with the
>insufficient memory error? Is this because it only made a 10mb paging file?
>If so, how can I have it create a larger one? There is enough room on C: now
>for a 20mb file. And, more to the point, how can I force it to put the paging
>file on G:, where there is gobs of room?

There are some notes about changing the size of the page file in the
DOS2NT install section in the booklet.  Of course, these refer to the
batch file install and modifying registry.ini before rebooting.  If all
else fails, you might want to try the DOS2NT method.

Jay Joiner
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32