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From: shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: 1992 Olympics Tennis Draw, Women's Singles
Date: 25 Jul 92 13:05:29 GMT
Organization: AT&T


  The singles draw has 64 players. Therefore they play six rounds;
  that is one fewer than at the Grand Slam events. Two bronze medals
  are awarded to the two losing semi-finalists, respectively.


  1992 Olympics Tennis Draw, Women's Singles, seeded players only


              Graf (1) --------+
                               |--------+
             Date (14) --------+        |
                                        |--------+
        Appelmans (16) --------+        |        |
                               |--------+        |
        K. Maleeva (8) --------+                 |
                                                 |--------+
    M.J. Fernandez (4) --------+                 |        |
                               |--------+        |        |
           Novotna (9) --------+        |        |        |
                                        |--------+        |
           Sukova (11) --------+        |                 |
                               |--------+                 |
 Maleeva-Fragniere (6) --------+                          |
                                                          +--------> Gold Medal
             Huber (7) --------+                          |
                               |--------+                 |
           Halard (15) --------+        |                 |
                                        |--------+        |
           Pierce (13) --------+        |        |        |
                               |--------+        |        |
          Capriati (3) --------+                 |        |
                                                 |--------+
          Martinez (5) --------+                 |
                               |--------+        |
         Garrison (12) --------+        |        |
                                        |--------+
          Tauziat (10) --------+        |
                               |--------+
   Sanchez-Vicario (2) --------+


The two local favorites, Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario and Conchita Martinez
are in the same quarter of the draw. Therefore, at most one of them
can win a medal in this event.

Predictions? Seles will NOT win any medal. :-)
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From: tmarvan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Thomas Marvan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Olympic Questions & Thoughts
Date: 26 Jul 92 06:59:05 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Jul26.022658.29556@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> csr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Christopher S. Redding) writes:
>
>	I was just wondering if there is a bronze medal for tennis, and
>if so, how is it determined? I'm almost sure there is a silver medal, but
>I really don't know.


I would guess that the winner of the final would be awarded the
gold and the loser of the final would receive the silver.

As far as the bronze medal goes, I imagine that it would be decided
in a play-off between the two losers of the semi-finals. The winner
of this play-off would recieve the bronze. 


This is the system most often used in other such knock-out sports in
the Olympics, including basketball, field hockey (which,
incidentally, I imagine will receive *NO* coverage here in the US).





Tom Marvan.
From: mcguinn@Software.Mitel.COM (Tom McGuinness)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Stringing Machine
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:56:57 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

In article <1992Jul22.041018.5097@physics.ucla.edu> hayase@physics.ucla.edu writes:

>If you really like to use the Prince Premiere strings it may be advisable
>not to get the Klippermate. Problems arise because the Premiere frays quite
>easily compared to other synthetic strings. The Klippermate uses "short vise
>grips" (that's the best way I can describe them) to hold the strings and 
>maintain the tension while stringing. Apparently this also allows the grips
>to "bite" into the strings more leaving marks and part of the outer coating
>peeled off. My friend, who owns a Klippermate and warned me about these
>problems, is now looking for another stringing machine that comes with vise
>grips that hold onto a longer section of the string. Of course, the better the
>model the more expensive it is.

>This is not to say the Klippermate is a bad machine; it is a good deal if you
>go through strings quite often and like to use more durable strings (such as
>Prince Synthetic Gut, etc..).


>Colleen

I use a Klippermate, and I agree that the clamps that come with the 
machine are harsh on the string, but other vise grip style clamps are
available that use wood and also have a longer clamping bite. I have a set
of these "improved" clamps and I find that they are much kinder to the
string. I bought my machine second hand, so I'm not sure where the
improved clamps came from, but I would guess that they came from Klippermate.

For other Klippermate users: I find that I can further decrease the 
amount of clamp bite on the string by putting a fat rubber band around
the larger piece of the string gripper (the part used for getting a hold
of the string before applying tension). By doing this, the string is 
protected from the force of the vise mechanism and also the string will
not slip when tension is applied.

			ToM
From: palmer@uvmark.uucp (Filaman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Tuesday's News
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:42:41 GMT
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article <l7afibINNrit@news.bbn.com> adolce@bbn.com (Anne Dolce) writes:
>  Israel's Amos Mansdorf has withdrawn from both singles
>  and doubles because of an injury.

He will be replaced by Javier Frana of Argentina in singles.
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From: narayan@carina.unm.edu (C.R.Narayanan)
Subject: Re: To be the best or to do your best
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 16:37:14 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Jul30.120745.1@lure.latrobe.edu.au> stamm@lure.latrobe.edu.au writes:
>
>We are talking about international tennis here. I mean, I love to sing in
>the shower but I wouldn't start a career in opera or theatre where OTHER
>people have to buy tickets to watch me (or, worse yet, listen to me).
>I like to watch players who are interesting. I couldn't possibly define
>exactly what qualities an interesting player would possess, but I think
>that some growth or improvement in a player's game is a part of it, and
>that is normally reflected in an improvement in ranking.
>
>I may not have been NICE, but I was honest.

Yes you were!

>> I hope this is not too harsh but well, it's how I feel.
>hey, didn't I say that? Are you pissed-off with me? 
>>                                             Quan Xiong
>>                                             ph412000@brownvm.brown.edu
>
>Thanks for your thoughts anyway. It's the silence that follows some of
>my comments that really worries me. (Does that mean that everyone agrees
>OR everyone disagrees and is too polite to bother OR everyone is indifferent
>OR noone read the posting OR...?)
>
>                         - Milena
The silence could mean a lot of things, BUSY writing a Ms thesis while
still managing to read r.s.t for example. But since you wanted to know
other people's opinion, I think both of you had a few valid points! I
respect the other pros on the tour who are not in the top 50 say! They
know that tennis is their bread and butter, while at the same time they
also know that they may not have (probably dont) what it takes to go to
the top! It really is depressing especially if they love the game(I'm sure),
thats when the burden of Mediocrity is really heavy. Still you can see 
them going about their jobs, and you have to at least admire them for it!
And of course, once in a while, there comes along a Johnny Mac who makes
the semi-final of Wimbledon (or was it the US) as a qualifier. That's
what any sport is all about! Just my 2 paisa worth!

DO your best, and if you are the best, hey, that's great! If not, life
goes on!

Narayan

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Subject: Racket Recommendation Redux
From: murphy1@husc10.harvard.edu (Gerard J. Murphy)
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:39:56 EDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

   A while back I asked for recommendations for a racket to replace 
my old Wilson Extra II Largehead.  I wanted a racket with similar 
feel and characteristics and about the same price, i.e. cheap.  
The only recommendations I got were for $150+ rackets which was not 
very helpful.  Fortunately, by coincidence, somebody posted that
they were using a Wilson Agressor 95 which cost under $50 and which
they liked.  I looked at this racket and it's not bad.  I also saw
a Wilson Pro 110 which is larger, cheaper and seemed to feel a little
better.  Before I plunk down my money though ( I know fifty bucks 
probably isn't much to those of you who would spend $150 and up on
a racket but it is for some of us ) I have some questions about the
way the rackets are strung and the numbers on the handle.

   First, all the rackets I examined were marked L2, L3, L4, etc.  Can
anybody tell me what these mean?  Am I correct in assuming this is
some sort of recently introduced system? ( None of my older rackets,
all 5 years old or older, use this nomenclature )

   Second, why are different rackets strung with differing numbers of
strands along a given axis and what are the consequences of this?

   This seems to be unrelated to racket head size.  Some of the rackets
for instance had 16 strands of stringing counting across the face of
the racket while a few had 18.  It seems like the cheaper rackets had
more rows curiously enough and I noticed that both my old Wilson and
my even older Head Professional, a standard size, have 18 rows.  How
does this affect control and power?



                                 Thanks in advance,


                                 Gerry Murphy

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From: shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung)
Subject: Re: Early Results (SPOILER)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:23:44 GMT

In article <l7fpffINNpbo@news.bbn.com> adolce@bbn.com (Anne Dolce) writes:
>2nd Round:  
>  Courier(1) d. Bloom  6-2, 6-0, 6-0
>  Graf(1) d. Schultz  6-1, 6-0

Both top seeds looked very sharp today. The accuracy of Courier's
ground strokes was very impressive (althought that is nothing new).
Schultz, who probably has the biggest serve on the women's tour,
pushed Graf to a second set tie break at the Federation Cup
just two weeks ago, also on clay, but she served ~37% today
and wasn't able to bother Graf at all.
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From: m_ander@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Anderson)
Subject: Tennis partner...
Reply-To: m_ander@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Anderson)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Distribution: psc
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 23:30:14 GMT

I've been looking (without too much success) for people to play tennis
with this summer.  I like to play for fun, not blood, and since I
haven't been palying too much this summer, I'm a little rusty.  If
you, too, are looking for someone to hit a few balls with, mail me back.

Mike
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 02:07:14 -0400 
From: Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: ATP Men's Ranking

>>
 1. Jim Courier, United States, 3,781
 2. Stefan Edberg, Sweden, 3,172
 3. Pete Sampras, United States, 3,105
 4. Goran Ivanisevic, Croatia, 2,319
 5. Boris Becker, Germany, 2,114
 6. Michael Chang, United States, 2,078
 7. Petr Korda, Czechoslovakia, 2,058
 8. Andre Agassi, United States, 1,922
 9. Guy Forget, France, 1,797
10. Michael Stich, Germany, 1,699
11. Carlos Costa, Spain, 1,663
12. Ivan Lendl, United States, 1,662
13. Wayne Ferreira, South Africa, 1,555
14. Aaron Krickstein, United States, 1,389
15. Richard Krajicek, Netherlands, 1,333
16. Brad Gilbert, United States, 1,320
17. MaliVai Washington, United States, 1,313
18. John McEnroe, United States, 1,282
19. Thomas Muster, Austria, 1,267
20. Sergi Bruguera, Spain, 1,223
>>

hmmm.
9 Americans.
2 Germans.
2 Spaniards.
1 Swede.
1 Croatian.
1 Czech.
1 Frenchman.
1 South African.
1 Netherlander.
1 Austrian.

lots of Americans, eh? I didn't realize there were two Spaniards in the
top 20, though.....

--Vernon.
From: "john russell" <john.russell@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: sidespin
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:06:55 EST
Reply-To: "john russell" <john.russell@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

Au contraire, a well-executed sidespin shot is certainly possible to hit
deliberately.  It's one of the most satisfying winners to hit because so
few people are used to judging that kind of bounce.

The usual situation is an inside-out or down-the-line forehand.  You
take a level swing with exaggerated right->left motion, and the ball
tails away to the right (if you're a righthander).  If your opponent
misjudges the bounce, it'll seem to him like he keeps running and
running and never quite catches up to the ball.  With racquets longer
along the "sidespin axis", you can put heavy sidespin on a ball with
less chance of a mishit than topspin.

John
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From: foerster@zman.rtp.dg.com (Mike Von Foerster)
Subject: Re: whatever happened to Pernfors (was NCAA Singles Champions List)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 16:30:24 GMT
Distribution: na
Reply-To: foerster@dg-rtp.dg.com
Organization: Data General Corp., Research Triangle Park, NC

In article <1992Jul28.164600.5824@iscsvax.uni.edu>, bohy6489@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
|> > 1984   Mikael Pernfors     Georgia
|> > 1985   Mikael Pernfors     Georgia
|> 
|> Whatever happened to this guy?  I remember watching him play in a tournament
|> (don't ask me to recall which) back in the early-to-mid 80's, and have not seen
|> or heard from/of him since.  Seems to me like he danced around a *lot* while
|> waiting to return serve (that's what made him memorable to me, anyway).  I
|> remember my brother-in-law commenting that all that dancing around would drive
|> him nuts 'cause it would break his concentration and he wouldn't play as well. 
|> (I tried it the next time we played and it seemed to have no effect, he still
|> killed me).
|> 
|> I have to agree, though.  Seeing my opponent moving around too much is
|> distracting.  I could almost put up with the grunting more...
|> 
|> ===============================================================================
|> Jim Bohy                                        | "I am he as you are he as you
|> Graduate Student - Computer Science Education   |  are me as we are all
|> University of Northern Iowa                     |  together..." - J. Lennon
|> Cedar Falls, IA  50614                          |
|> bohy@att1.uni.edu                               |  by the above, I am myself
|> =============================================================================== 

He's playing Team tennis right now but I forgot what team he plays for!!!

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From: bernie@lgc.com (Bernie De La Torre)
Subject: Re: On Being Flat And/Or Spinny
Organization: Landmark Graphics Corporation
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:05:15 GMT

In article <11006@cis.rand.org> rodger@rand.ORG (Rodger Madison) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.040435.5500@morrow.stanford.edu>, GE.TEG@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tito E. Gervacio) writes:
>
>>  and  sidespins  are inarguably lucky shots (any rebuttal?).
>
>>  -TEG
>
>They generally are.  A pure sidespin shot is almost impossible to hit.
>The are on the woman's tour now several players (Steffi among them) who
>can hit an "inside out" forehand.  This stroke produces a shot that is
>sliced with a little sidespin (the axis of rotation is maybe 10-15 degrees
>off the horizontal).  The advantage of such a shot lie in its power and
>the way the ball hops away when it bounces.
>
>     Rodger

I've also seen players with two-handed backhands approach with some
side spin. Connors is one that comes to mind. I agree that it's not pure
side spin, though. It's really a combination of underspin and sidespin.

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From: goldman@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Roy Goldman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: The Krickstein Group
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:22:03 GMT
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: cork.cs.berkeley.edu

This is my first time looking into the tennis newsgroup and I'm
impressed; the information is vaulable and pieces well written.
Scores and draws from tournaments around the world (i.e. Players
Int'l. in Toronto) are especially useful considering the limited press
coverage our sport receives.

I'm just wondering if there are any tennis enthusiasts who share my
admiration for those pros who never really pocket billions in
endorsements or dozens of Grand Slam titles but are talented,
strong-willed, gutsy, sportsmanlike, and crowd-pleasing nonetheless.
The Connors and Macs were and are brilliant, but I've grown fond of
those pros who often play the role of the underdog-players like
MaliVai Washington, Shuzo Matsuoka, and my favorite in this group,
Aaron Krickstein.

Along with a number of others, Krickstein has had to play through
multiple injuries and yet continues to put together solid tennis,
having won the South African Open this year and having reached the
finals of the Monte Carlo Open soon after that, beating Becker in
straight sets along the way.  His game showcases his mental toughness
and effort; the stubborn guy is something like 23-7 lifetime in 5 set
matches.

Any other tennis fans who value this "genre" of hard-nosed players?

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Roy Goldman
goldman@cork.cs.berkeley.edu
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From: gene@krell.catalyst (Gene Huang)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Connors vs Navratilova
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:58:02 GMT
Reply-To: gene@krell.catalyst
Organization: Sun Microsystems


Has anyone else heard that Connors and Navratilova have agreed
to play in an exhibition match in Las Vegas on Sept 25?

Connors will be handicapped with being allowed only one serve,
and Navratilova can aim at an expanded court on Connors' side,
with special lines drawn to include half of each doubles alley.

The prize is $500,000 winner takes all.

This should be interesting...


Gene
From: gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM (Gess Shankar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: ATP Men's Money Leaders
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:23:00 GMT
Organization: Knowledge Exchange, GA, US of A

MEN'S TENNIS LEADING MONEY WINNERS
      (THROUGH JULY 27TH)

 1. Jim Courier       $1,334,750
 2. Andre Agassi        $918,219
 3. Petr Korda          $699,413
 4. Goran Ivanisevic    $661,151
 5. Stefan Edberg       $649,834
 6. Michael Stich       $591,336
 7. Pete Sampras        $548,352
 8. Michael Chang       $542,702
 9. Emilio Sanchez      $510,363
10. Carlos Costa        $497,067
 
 
GeSS
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From: clc5q@hemlock.cs.Virginia.EDU (Clark L. Coleman)
Subject: Re: Monday Results at US Pro at Longwood (Brookline MA)
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:17:16 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.190355.24643@osf.org> mcg@osf.org (Michael Gross) writes:
>-- 
>
>Paul Kilderry     def.  Johan Kirk      6-4, 4-6, 6-2

Are you sure that isn't Johan Kriek, 1981 and 1982 Australian Open champion?

I read that he has been making a comeback for almost a year, playing on
the satellite tour after having knee problems a few years ago that drove
him into retirement.

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From: palmer@uvmark.uucp (Filaman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: String Tension on the Prince Vortex
Date: 30 Jul 92 06:45:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvmark.1992Jul30.064546.72560
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article <1992Jul29.231920.27039@athena.mit.edu> ljva@athena.mit.edu (L. James Valverde) writes:
>
>Can someone (Filaman et al.?) please give me some guidance on how tight can I string my Prince 
>Vortex without compromising the playability that I'm told is lost when you string 
>the Vortex too tight?
>
>The main reason that I ask is that I have always strung my rackets pretty tight.
>Before getting the Vortex, I played with the Thunderstick, which I strung at
>75lbs. I like the control that I get at these higher tensions, but have not been
>given any guidance as to how this should translate to the Vortex. Is it totally
>out of the question to string this racket at 75 lbs? I presently have my Vortex
>strung at about 58 lbs, which is alltogether too loose for me.

Unfortunately, I have no experience with the Prince Vortex. I don't have my
latest stringers manual in my office, but 75 pounds sounds a little tight.
By the way, the maximum tension for a Thunderstick is 70 for the oversize and
65 for the midsize (tsk, tsk). Why do you feel that 58 lbs. is too loose?
Are you sailing balls over the baseline? Also, are you taking a hard swing
at the ball. Apparently, the harder you swing the stiffer the racquet
becomes and consequently the more power you generate. If you're really
uncomfortable with 58, try stringing it towards the maximum tension range
which is probably around 65.
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From: clc5q@hemlock.cs.Virginia.EDU (Clark L. Coleman)
Subject: Re: Semifinal Result: Canadian Open
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 14:37:39 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.005419.17606@eng.umd.edu> clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin) writes:
>
>   I think Clark means HTS will show it 1 am, not 1 pm.

Nope, I meant 1 p.m.  HTS has the Agassi-Washington semi on tape from
1 to 3 on Saturday, then the final live from 3 to 5.


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