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From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Sacrilege! Blasphemy!
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:33:03 GMT
Distribution: na
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

ertle@kira.uvm.edu The Sneaky Devil wrote:
: Destroying the Harley:  What really got me was that they were
: blatantly littering that beautiful spot.  That bike is going to sit
: there rusting for who knows how long?
: 
: Possible bad effects on hikers and animals ( some of that stuff is
: probably sharp ), and it is aesthetically displeasing.

Get a grip guy!  It's just a TV show.  Besides, even a crumpled Harley
would be worth draggin up out of that ravine to sell.  Somebody will
recover it and either sell the pieces or restore it.

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From: olsen@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Diane Olsen)
Subject: Re: Rolf vs. American Beer
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:32:55 GMT

In article <3101@news.cerf.net> davsmith@nic.cerf.net (David Smith) writes:
>
>Maybe Rolf did get a glass of Budweiser rather than something good, though.
>I'm sure Holling has Bud on tap :-(.

When I was in Vienna about three years ago, I saw a beer truck that said
"Budweiser" on the side.  Everything about it except the name was 
completely different from the American logo -- for example, the colors
were green and gold rather than red, white, and blue.  I was so struck
(not literally!) by this un-Budweiser-like Bud truck that I took a
photo of it.  So maybe there's a European "Budweiser" that's completely
independent of the one we know and love (or hate), and maybe that's
what Rolf thought he ordered.  All right, it's far fetched, but so
are lots of things to do with NEXP....

--Diane

-- 
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olsen@csli.stanford.edu		--Christine de Pizan (c.1363-c.1431)
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From: Don Wegeng <wegeng.henr801c@xerox.com>
Subject: Re: Episde 10/12 and other stuff
Originator: wegeng@ogre
Organization: Xerox
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:44:11 GMT

I didn't particularly enjoy this episode, either.  One of the things about
NX that I enjoy is that the sub plots in an episode all seem to center
around a general theme.  This week there didn't seem to be any general
theme, just a couple unrelated stories.

/Don
wegeng.henr801c@xerox.com
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From: kbowers@esrc1.uucp (Ken Bowers)
Subject: Re: Midnight Sun Episode
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:52:18 GMT

In article <7OCT199215561197@cc.utah.edu> pwjarman@cc.utah.edu (PARRY W. JARMAN) writes:

>
>I've quit trying to figure the continuity thing out. Look at all the episodes 
>as a series of vignettes relating isolated incidents in the character's lives 
>and it is much easier to swallow.  The producers have a definite problem, 
>however.  Should Joel's anxiety level come down, should Maggie become softer, 
>less neurotic and give in to a "relationship", should Maurice admit his 
>homophobia & become less biogoted, should Shelley decide to go to college--the 
>chemical balance between the characters would all have to shift. NX is as much 
>about human character as it is about plotlines and stories. The Powers That Be 
>will have to figure out how to keep the characters from becomingstatic without 
>loosing the "edge" that makes NX unique.  I too, would like the characters to 
>progress--but how???


I'd call it more a challenge than a problem. NX has a lot more options
for advancing characters. Pretty much anything goes in terms of using
dreams, imagination, and characters from out of town. In addition, they
have established a precedent of dealing (admittedly at an oblique 
angle) with Life Questions. Obviously, they have to deal with Maggie
and Joel, and the trick is going to handle it in a way that:  
1) doesn't rehash all the Moonlighting/Cheers junk
2) delivers some romance to the audience after all the build-up
3) remains in character for the show

The other things you mention are certainly less pressing, although
it were up to me, getting Shelly out of town, on any pretext, would
be at the top of the list. 

Ken B 
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From: pciszek@nyx.cs.du.edu (Paul Ciszek)
Subject: Re: Monday's "Midnight Sun" episode.
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 03:47:19 GMT

daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom) writes:

>Well, I have never been to Alaska, but I can tell you that even
>if you go only as far north as Jasper Park in B.C., the nights
>get very bright in the summer time.  They do not get as
>dark as farther south.  So I suspect that in much of Alaska, the
>nights stay very very bright indeed, and it will not surprise
>me to find out that the sun does not go down.

We saw a rainbow at *midnight*.  That means that the sun was above the
horizon, and Cicely must be above the Arctic Circle.

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From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)
Subject: Re: Episde 10/12 and other stuff
Organization: very little
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:56:03 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.162802.17404@b8.b8.ingr.com> larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings) writes:
>In article <1bem2uINNmit@uwm.edu>, david@convex.csd.uwm.edu (David Stack) writes:
>> From article <1992Oct13.045107.28845@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, by sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth):
>> > 
>> > Ok folks, what did you all think of this weeks episode?? I don't know why,
>> > but there was someting missing..HMMM..what..was it...don't tell I'll figure
>> > it out....AHH..Of course.. Maggie wasn't in it :-)
>> 
>> But she *was* in Chevy commercials than ran during the show.  I thought 
>> there was some kind of prohibition against this -- having an actor 
>> appear in a commercial that runs in the midst of a show they're starring
>> in.  But, of course, she wasn't starring in this episode...
>
>I had never heard this, why would there be?
>

The guy who plays Chris was in a Black Star Beer commercial that ran during
the show on 10/12/92.  I think this is being test marketed in the Pacific
Northwest, so folks in other areas of the country may not have seen it.



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From: puckett@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Jim Puckett)
Subject: Re: Episde 10/12 and other stuff
Organization: NASA/MSFC
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:34:54 GMT

Gordon_Wong@mindlink.bc.ca (Gordon Wong) writes:

>Actually what I thought Rolf wanted with Ed at his cabin was Indian
>artifacts. He asked Ed if he had any artifacts. I thought Rolf was going to
>pilfer Ed's cabin.

What got me was his reference to being turned on by (was it ?) Vanessa
Redgrave - and winking while saying that she was 'mannish' -

- of course, European men seem a little more effeminate than we beer
drinkin', tobaccer chewing, go-out-an-wreck-the-pickup Americans.

DON"T FLAME ME YET! First read 'Lila' by Rober Pirsig (See, I spelled it
right!) - the sequel to _Zen_and_the_Art_of_Motorcycle_Maintenance_, 
referenced in last week's episode. If the writer's read one, they read
the other....8-)

GOD! I love this show...
jim p.
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i need to ask myself.....
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From: molin@crs.cl.msu.edu (Michael Olin)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Janine Turner in Chevy Commerical
Date: 7 Oct 92 05:22:17 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:

>I saw the Janine Turner Chevy ad this past Saturday (10/3) night.
>It's one of those car commercials where the car isn't even shown.
>ort of like those weird Nissan ads a few years ago.

Is it just me?  I'm not particularly impressed with Turner's appearances
in the Chevy ads.  Her speech seems stilted, to me, and she doesn't have
that "I can handle it." appearance that she exudes on N.Ex.


            -MOlin
From: tsirbasc@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Tsirbas Christos)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Sacrilege!  Blasphemy!
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:32:33 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

The Mac in Question was an original LC.


Chris in Montreal
Universite de Montreal 
Micro 2200 (The offical source for Mac Hardware at the UdeM)
tsirbasc@brise.ere.umontreal.ca
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From: walker@eplrx7.es.duPont.com (Scott Walker)
Subject: Water skiing Ed!
Organization: DuPont Central Research & Development
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:41:39 GMT

On Wednesday, I was flipping channels and got to MTV.  Well, who should it
be but Ed (Darren Burrows, right?) learning how to barefoot water ski!
There were a bunch of people in the boat, but being that they were all
wet and had sunglasses on, I don't know if they were anyone else I might
recognize.  He did pretty well, but he fell a lot too.  He seemed to be
having a lot of fun, though.  Who wouldn't??? :-)

******************************************************
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+++The few opinions I express are not the opinions of my employer.
"What's settled down?  Settled down is you get married and then you buy a
house.  You can get a wood house, a plaster house or a stucco house.  
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from Groucho Marx.
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From: david@master.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Rolf vs. American Beer
Organization: University of Chicago, Department of Anatomy
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:13:37 GMT

In article <JUNCK.92Oct15093532@okra.fnal.gov>, junck@okra.fnal.gov (Kevin Junck) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Oct14.233255.29285@Csli.Stanford.EDU> olsen@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Diane Olsen) writes:
> 
>>   In article <3101@news.cerf.net> davsmith@nic.cerf.net (David Smith) writes:
>    >>
>    >>Maybe Rolf did get a glass of Budweiser rather than something good, though.
>    >>I'm sure Holling has Bud on tap :-(.
> 
>>   When I was in Vienna about three years ago, I saw a beer truck that said
>>   "Budweiser" on the side.  Everything about it except the name was 
>>   completely different from the American logo -- for example, the colors
>>   were green and gold rather than red, white, and blue.  I was so struck
>>   (not literally!) by this un-Budweiser-like Bud truck that I took a
>>   photo of it.  So maybe there's a European "Budweiser" that's completely
>>   independent of the one we know and love (or hate), and maybe that's
>>   what Rolf thought he ordered.  All right, it's far fetched, but so
>>   are lots of things to do with NEXP....
>>
>>   --Diane
>>
>>   -- 
>>   Diane L. Olsen		"A woman with a mind is fit for all tasks."
>>   olsen@csli.stanford.edu		--Christine de Pizan (c.1363-c.1431)
> 
> 	Yes there is a German beer called Budweiser.  I tried a glass
> while visiting friends in Germany this past summer.  They thought it
> quite humorous that there would be an American beer named that also.
> IMHO the German Budweiser beats the American Budweiser hands down.
> 
> -- 
> Kevin L. Junck     a.k.a. Junck@okra.fnal.gov            708-840-8368
> Fermi National Accelerator Lab                 Batavia, Illinois, USA
> #include <std.disclaimer.h>                 ** HAIL TO THE VICTORS **


	Budweiser was origionally a European brew, Czech I think. The american
company bought the rights to the name many years ago.  At the time there were
many local companies also using the name, and A-B either bought the name from 
them or drove them out of business.  I think the original Bud is still being
made, and thats probably what you saw.  I refer you to alt.beer for more details
it you're interested.

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From: wkl5819@rigel.tamu.edu (LEVERICH, WILLIAM KENT)
Subject: Re: Maggie a babe
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:38:00 GMT

I think everybody is wrong about the best babe on NX.  It's not Shelley, and
it's not Maggie.  The most fabulous babe on the show is Marilyn.

Kent Leverich
From: djohnson@cs.ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Episode 10/12, or whatever it was called
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:14:46 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

>From the books on pi that I've read, I think that this is the formula
>that I remember seeing that will yield true pi.  However, I do agree
>with you that she was probably not using this formula.

The method works great in theory, but on real computers, it starts
messing up quick.  Accuracy starts dropping off real fast, if you're
using standard floating point (even assuming 128 bits), and if you use
infinite precision packages, it starts getting real slow...  I don't
recall them, but I have run across methods that do work much better.
Then again, she may have had to delve into the grungy (to her) field
of numerical analysis (complex ways to do simple things because of
real-world limitations) and come up with her own algorithms.
-- 
Darin Johnson
djohnson@ucsd.edu
    "Are you a doctor?"   "No, but I watched."
From: jjd3@po.CWRU.Edu (James J. Dibenedetto)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: "Nothing's Perfect" - 10/12 episode
Date: 13 Oct 1992 16:30:10 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: jjd3@po.CWRU.Edu (James J. Dibenedetto)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


Just a couple of comments...

After the teaser, during the commercial, I found myself wondering what
JOel and Maggie were going to be like in the episode, how they were
going to interact after the last two weeks.  Then the show came back on, and
we never saw Maggie and only saw Joel for a moment, and I didn't even notice
them missing...which is how good this show is.  

SOmeone on here thought the bike-off-the-cliff was repetitious, thinking
back to the catapult (sorry, trebuchet) last season.  I thought it was
a nice reminder, especially Amy's line, "itt's not the thing, it's how you
feel about the thing..."  I think we've got a good companion for Chris,
and I hope we see Amy again.  (actually, I was half-expecting Chris to
say something about flinging things, but I guess he was too broken up about his
bike - nice bike, I'd be depressed if I had to throw if off a cliff, too)


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From: dpdp05@mc4adm.UWaterloo.ca (Diane Mitchell x6486)
Subject: re: Blasphemy!
Originator: dpdp05@mc4adm.UWaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:20:23 GMT


Didn't the cow get flung by Monty Python and the piano get flung by NX?
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Midnight Sun Episode
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:45:34 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1992Oct7.182943.14527@news.acns.nwu.edu>, mhw@casbah.acns.nwu.edu 
(Mike Murphy) writes:

> and Bernard was there!  ALL RIGHT!!  :)  
Yeah, how'd he get back?  Wasn't he off on another long trip?  No slides
this time?  :^)

> Joel acting just nuts... felt like home.
Was he hysterical or what?  
"like an extremely voluptous, sweatpant clad, wood nymph"!!!
 
> Maggie going off against men who only look at the surface of a women 
What bothered me was this is *not* what she was doing...she was saying
"all men are like this"...Maggie!  You know this isn't true...look at what
Joel did for you when you where sick!

> not what's inside and interjecting her rampage with...
> "maybe a hat... I know! some gloves..."  GOD that was funny.  
Agreed...this was a really nice touch.

> I guess what I really liked about this episode was that everyone was in it. 
> there was a strong sense of community in this one, even though there were 
> many individual subplots.
What I really didn't like was there seems to be very little sense of
continuity.  I really hope they start weaving more threads through multiple
episodes, and cause the characters to change visibly, and talk about what
happened in the events before.

Greg Bole                                "What kind of mother would I be if I
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu              didn't give my girls tits...tips?"
                                             Dustin Hoffman in _Tootsie_
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Friday, 9 Oct 1992 12:06:31 MST
From: <ICJPS@ASUACAD.BITNET>
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Subject: Re: Maggie a babe

Maggie a babe?  Nah..she's an adult.

Reality check:  Who is more attractive, Maggie O' Connel or Jeanine Turner?
From: dascoser@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (david serchay)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Sacrilege!  Blasphemy!
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:18:21 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

lbrother@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Larry Brothers) writes:

> The ol' lady & I caught about the last half-hour of the show last
> night.  Who is the lady the DJ is in love with?  She's perfect for
> him! 
> 
> But to push a Harley off a cliff?  Sacrilege!  Blasphemy!  When she
> said, "But you love this.", he should have said, "I love you, too!"
> and thrown *her* off the cliff.
> 

It's weird. I was watching this with a friend and after he told his 
girlfreind about the bird, I turned to my friend and said "OK, now he's 
going to let her run over his motercycle". Her jaw dropped when she saw 
how close I came to being right. (does that mean I jaded about things in 
Cicily?) :)

Dascoser
From: dascoser@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (david serchay)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Inchworm
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:43:59 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

Just thought I'd mention this since no one else did. The song inchworm 
(and the 2+2 is 4 bit before it) is from the end of the Danny Kaye film
Hans Christain Anderson.

Dascoser
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From: marty@world.std.com (Marty M HaleEvans)
Subject: Re: Rolf, Ed, and Cultural Stereotypes
Keywords: Native Americans, Germans, Rolf, Ed, Stereotypes
Organization: Cicely Public Access UNIX, Cicely, AK
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 00:46:28 GMT

dschenke@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dennis L Schenkel) writes:

>I thought it was interesting to see Rolf's preconceived notions of Native 
>Americans from _Dances_with_Wolves_ and as people who make native artifacts.  
>On the flipside, it was fun to watch Ed's preconceived notions of Germans as 
>always being the 'bad guys' in films. Every film about German characters in 
>Ed's library dealt with Gerbles (sp), the Nazi war criminal.  What a hoot!

>Did anyone else notice the playfullness of that scene?

Sure did, and loved it. Rolf seemed so sure of himslef and his worldview
through the whole thing, I liked this little pointer that he could be wrong
and not know it. Just like Maurice, who he criticized for the same thing.
Also loved Ed's acceptance of the German's political incorrectness, with 
typcial Ed sweet equanimity. 

Did anyone else see Ed's question -- "How does it feel to always be the
bad guy?" -- as ironic from an American Indian, who have always been the
bad guys until recently (now they're always the good guys)?

Marty

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From: jp@usafa.af.mil (J P)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Maggie a babe
Keywords: babe maggie
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:15:23 GMT
Organization: Computer Center

How many you out there think Maggie is a babe?
From: djohnson@cs.ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Rolf and Joel: who will stay?
Keywords: my theory
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:19:29 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

>No, no, no, you've got it all wrong. The woman who plays MAGGIE played Rolf.
>That's why she didn't appear in the episode...:-)

JOEL was inside the clock, pushing the little figures out the doors.
-- 
Darin Johnson
djohnson@ucsd.edu
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