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From: martin@mala.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: FUS
Date: 12 Aug 92 22:47:23 -0700
Organization: Malaspina College

In article <1992Aug12.174400.28838@wetware.com>, diana@wetware.com (CatWoman ) writes:
> Carol B's good advice deleted for brevity.
> 
> Additional comment - not only is the cat's
> urinary track shaped oddly - the male's penis
> is an inflexible cartilige shaft, and again,
> small particles get stuck easily.

one more additional comment..

I had a male cat who got FUS... after the usual visit to the vet, my vet
clinic provided me with this photocopy of an article on preventing
FUS from some magazine..  it recommended some kind of treatment which
would keep the cats urine ACIDIC, as the start of the problem seems
to be triggered by crystals which come when the urine gets to alkaline.

although I have since seen here notes that feeding things like Vitamin
C have not beeen proven scientifically to work, I know that the acidify
tactic worked for us...  we tried a number of acidic foods from a list
in the article that included things like citrus juices, etc..

what worked for my little guy was tomato juice..  maybe it wasn't the vitamin
C in it, maybe it was just the fact that its so acidic, but, we had no
other changes in lifestyle, same water, same food, same indoor/ourdoor,
and we NEVER had another reoccurance of the FUS..

he had a little saucer of tomato juice available at all times...
maybe he knew it was good for him.. cause he ate it.. and he never got sick
again...
From: gt1167b@prism.gatech.EDU (Christie Shackelford)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Date: 22 Aug 92 18:15:10 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


Almost all cats like to go to the highest surface they can reach
and look down, while leaning way out from their perch with their
head stuck out and down from the neck.  I call this vulturing.
Fermi does it all the time to keep an eye on Dixie.

-- 
Christie Shackelford
gt1167b@prism.gatech.edu
Meow!
From: machanicm@gtephx.UUCP (Mindy Machanic)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: How long cats live (was Re: Indoor cat wants out)
Summary: Yes your opinions do matter
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:44:10 GMT
Organization: AG Communication Systems, Phoenix, Arizona



-- 
Mindy
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From: edr@gtech.com (Eric D. Remington)
Subject: Re: Advice on Allergies
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:58:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.033825.2434@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ren@Turing.ORG (Karen Prestemon) writes:
>
  <stuff deleted>
>about their validity.  1)  Do cats kill roaches? and 2
) Is it true that
>Manx cats are easier on allergy sufferers than other varieties?
>
>	Thanks in advance!
>
>--Karen
> 
>
  My cats will kill/attack/play with to death, and then EAT ANY type of bug
  that gets into the house. Moths are particulary dangerous to the house, as 
  they fly, and the cats can (as attested to by the claw marks where the
  wall and ceiling meet in my kitchen) jump REALLY high in odrer to try to
  captura a bug. As well as cats demanding (as I saw in another post) "dead
  mouse" flavored cat food, maybe "deab bug" flavorded cat food would
  go over well also.
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Allergies - Soapless bath?
Date: 12 Aug 92 12:54:25 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

amd@space.mit.edu (Ann M. Davis) writes:
>>, maxwell@venice.sedd.trw.com (Debra Maxwell) writes:
>> 
>> Well, they said if you give your cats
>> a soapless bath once a month for approx. 9
>> months you won't have a problem with the
>> saliva anymore.  
> 
> I've been following the same route, and I've heard this basic
> sentence repeated.  My question is the word "soapless".  Does
> it matter if you use shampoo?  Is a soapless bath anything more
> than pouring water over the cat a couple of times?

"Soapless bath" never made any sense to me either.  Cat fur is pretty
water-repellent (just feel the undercoat when they come in from a rain--
it's perfectly dry); I can't get my cats wet unless I put a drop of 
shampoo or other surfactant in the water.

Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI
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From: gt1167b@prism.gatech.EDU (Christie Shackelford)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Terrified of Ceiling Fan!
Date: 22 Aug 92 18:35:56 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

>>
>>  I had a similar experience with my oldest cat, Toska, a tortoise shell
>>tabby, one day.  Some friends at work had sent me a singing birthday
>>greeting which included some helium balloons.  I thought, hey, what a neat
>>toy for the cats !! They'd love to chase after the balloons and catch them!
>>Well, as soon as I'd got the balloons home, the cats *all* were freaked,
>>hiding under the couches, and scattering into other rooms.  So I decided
>>that if they just got a little closer to the balloons, now stuck on the
>>ceiling, they'd see what fun there would be.  Toska was the closest so I
>>picked her up, took her to where the ballons were, and holding her up to
>>the balloons.  The next thing I noticed was this wetness on my feet.  The
>>poor dear was so scared she had urinated... Needless to say, I was very

I had a kitten last winter that my SO liked to play with (read "terrorize").
He gave me a mylar balloon for Valentine's Day, and got this bright idea
to tie it to Dylan.  It was the funniest thing.  Dylan was scared of it,
and would start running, and the balloon would "follow" him.  It freaked
him out!  He finally figured out that scooting under furniture and coming
out the other side would make the "monster" slip off of him.
He really wasn't scared of much, but the balloon never lost its effect.
He also didn't like the basketball I got at Pizza Hut (SO rolled it at
him and he couldn't get away fast enough).  SO also liked to put little
peices of tape on his paws, which made him crazy until he got it off.
He tried that with Fermi once, and she pulled her paw back, sniffed
the tape once, then extended the paw and looked at us like we had lost
our minds.  She didn't even bother to get up.  COmpletely unruffled.
The balloon bit didn't impress her either.  Its hard to find something
she'll get off her ass and play with.

-- 
Christie Shackelford
gt1167b@prism.gatech.edu
Meow!
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 19 Aug 1992 12:34:23 CDT
From: <U30644@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject:    BROKEN TAIL!!??

Help!  My kitty seems to have a broken/dislocated tail!!

We took in a stray last week and she has been beating up on our other 2
cats... well, a few days ago I was petting Zenny and I noticed a
swelling around the middle of her tail.  She was very sensitive around
this area, and she would yowl when I tried to examine it.

When she walks, there is a noticeable "bend" to it... I am taking her to
the vet today, but was wondering if anyone had any advice/suggestions on
what I can do to make Zenny feel better or if anyone has been in a
similar situation.

I feel like a guilty parent.  I saved the stray's life (she had an
infected uterus and needed surgery) but now my Zenny has a broken
tail!!!

Any advice would be appreciated.  Thanks.

p.s. She is walking around, eating, etc.  She seems ok except for the
tenderness and the bend in her tail.

Joel
From: jeffp@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (Jeff Parke;S10000)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Garlic and Brewers Yeast
Date: 14 Aug 92 23:11:43 GMT
Organization: Washington State University

In article <2922821631.2.p00020@mail.psi.net> p00020@mail.psi.net (Jack Previdi) writes:
>Date: 12 Aug 92 16:58:40 GMT
>From: margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman)
>
>> Does anybody think that Garlic and Brewers Yeast tablets (that was
>> meant for the dogs, but the Siamese cat stole one) would hurt a
>> cat?  She's fine this morning, a little more talkative than usual.
>> I'm sure she ate it.  She even came back later looking for more.
>
>	 Brewers yeast is good for cats. Sprinkle some on their wet
>	 food, along with a pinch of garlic powder.
>
>	 The yeast is said to make the cats unpalatable to fleas.
>	 One of our cats had a flea problem for about a week (from a
>	 visiting littermate), then the fleas disappeared, probably 
>	 into the carpet. But that's another story.
>
>	 The garlic just plain tastes good to cats and especially dogs.
>

A bit of garlic might do no harm, but in excess, it can cause an anemia
(Heinz body anemia) in dogs.  I'm not sure about cats.  Onions can also
cause this in dogs, by the way.  It is best to avoid feeding too much of
either.

I believe that there is no real proof that garlic does anything with regard
to fleas.  It does give garlic breath.

-Jeff
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From: ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder)
Subject: Re: Sarah the Toilet Paper Shredder
Keywords: paper shred
Organization: U.S. Geological Survey, Reston VA
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:36:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.184536.6189@bnr.ca> violet@crchh342.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Debbie Nunn) writes:
>My cat Sarah LOVES to shred the toilet paper!  I, however, don't like my 
>toilet paper shredded.  I remember seeing an add for some kind of protector,
>but that was MANY years ago.  Any suggestions?
>
Try this: Balance a small cup of water (such as a Dixie cup) on top
of the roll, and the next time she's in the shred mode... SPLASH!!!

One of my crew (never figured out which one) used to grab the end
of the roll and *RUN* through the house with it. I would come home
and find streamers of toilet paper everywhere. Kind of funny, but
gets expensive after awhile.

Steve        "I think these thoughts are mine"

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From: meyer@uuisis.isis.org (Katherine Meyer)
Subject: Re: Tail stood up straight, what's up??
Organization: International Shared Information Service (Ottawa)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 00:16:58 GMT

hui@apaturia.trl.OZ.AU (Alvaro Hui) writes:

> Hi,
> 	I brought my cat to a friend's house yesterday. When I
> released her to wander around on the new floor, her tail stood up
> straight all the time during the visit. What 's up?? At first
> I thought she want to defecate but putting her on the litter
> (My friend also owns a kitten) does not review any intention
> of her wanting to defecate. Funny, funny....
> 
> BTW, She was back to normal when she was home!! 
> (Jumping and chasing whatever is on the floor)
> 
> Alvaro,
> a.hui@trl.oz.au
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: afdenis@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison)
Subject: Re: How to turn an outdoor kitty to an indoor kitty?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Ancient Souls Inc.
Date: 13 Aug 1992 13:24 EST  

In article <seWDzYC00iUyM1AMgO@andrew.cmu.edu>, sw39+@andrew.cmu.edu (Susan R. Wagner) writes...
>Hello again,
> 
>I have a friend who is trying to teach her cat to be an indoor cat. 

Simple formula...

	1) Take 1 cat, outdoor-type

	2) Add one house...

	3) Mix vigorously

	4) Need [sic] gently.

Voila ! Indoor cat. :-)


Ok, Ok... I forgot step 5 ...


Buy new woodwork and drapes. :-)

-- Stephen

	The smallest light offered in total darkness is a blinding
	beacon of hope.
From: bicker@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (The Resource, Poet-Magician of Quality)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Update: !bicker
Date: 17 Aug 92 23:09:02 GMT
Reply-To: Brian.C.Kohn@att.com (The Resource, Poet-Magician of Quality)
Organization: The Internet


!bicker's lost another pound or so.  He's now down to 6.8 pounds (from
a high of 18 and a normal of 12.)  We are retaking the blood test to
see if he is still highly hyper-thyroid.  We hope so, as that will
explain why he's still losing weight.  If so, we'll just up the
dosage.  Hopefully that's the deal and we'll start seeing
improvement: as my vet says, "We're running out of kitty to work with."
I'm not religious, but I think I'll be praying tonight.

-- 
Brian Charles Kohn               using !bicker's account
Poet-Magician of "Quality"       E-MAIL: bicker@hoqax.ATT.COM
    'Hope, not fear, is the most positive advocate of action.' - S.R. Lawhead
                   Stamp Out "SO": "RP" = "Romantic Partner"
From: feldman@flash.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Sandra F Feldman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Those cats at the Humane Society Again
Date: 13 Aug 92 12:34:40 GMT
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

I guess the Schenectady Animal Foundation has a great deal.  $20 to adopt a pet,
includes a flea dip if needed and usually the cat has already been wormed.  If
you go to a cooperating vet the first checkup is free (but you have to pay for
vaccinations and the fe-leuk test).  Then, the vet will deduct 1/3 the cost of
the spay/neuter and the shelter pays 1/3 the cost.  Since the average is $40-60
depending on whether the cat is a girl or boy, the end result is that the cat
is practically free.

BTW, the two white fluffballs were gone when my husband went back to the
shelter.  So were a pair of grey fluffballs.  So, instead we have a blue and 
cream short hair tortoiseshell.  She's not the most beautiful cat, but she has
a wonderful cuddly personality and a non stop purring motor.  The other cats are
still getting used to her, and Snooky is totally bent out of shape because he's
expected to share *his* room, since they both will be getting higher calorie
food.  Every day gets better, and I'm trying to convince my husband not to 
give them each their own room.  I assume that they will work it out and be good
friends soon.
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From: K_LEPA@unhh.unh.edu (Kristen   Lepa)
Subject: Re: FAQ for low-cost spaying/neutering
Organization: University of New Hampshire
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 05:29:50 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.12

I move that this information be made a section of the FAQ.  All it says
(the copy I have, which is a year old) is that there are places where it
can be done cheaper than a vet's.  I have extracted all the articles I
received as well as my original post if the FAQ caretaker wants them.  I'm
sure there are postings I didn't receive for one reason or another...

	-Kristen







In <1992Aug20.164548.15543@europa.asd.contel.com> draper@gnd1.wtp.contel.com writes:

> For people in the metropolitan area of Washington, D.C., they can call
> Spay, Inc.  @ 703/521-2677.  Leave name, # and message and they will
> return your call.  Their vets do female cats for $35.00 and male cats
> for $17.50.  I don't know about dogs because I had 6 female cats to
> have done and didn't ask anything about dogs.
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:39:58 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <26832@life.ai.mit.edu>, marie@ai.mit.edu (Marie Lamb) writes:
> My favorites:
> The Handbag (sit with paws curled under body--if you put a handle on top,
>  voila!  A very funky handbag)

Called BunCat or CatLoaf or Meatloaf position at our house.

> Bookends/Mirrors (Anyone else feel like it is more that mere coincidence
>  that 2 cats so often can sit in *exactly* the same way at the same time?)

Known as the "Similar Orientation of Cats Phenomenon" at the same house...

You've forgotten:

"The Frog": cat laying on belly with front legs fully extended before
  and back legs fully extended behind (the "full frog" or the "half 
  frog" with one hind leg still under the cat.

Kitty Vulture:  Cat on high piece of furniture, head curved down over
  edge to watch for passing victims below,
     and its variant,
Lap Vulture: cat on lap with head curved out over owners knee so cats
  who walk by can be whopped.

The Miraculous Melting Cat:  (usually seen at the vet's): Cat attempts
  to become infinitely thin layer and ooze off table edge.

and


"Mine, all Mine":  Cat sitting on person's lap, then reaches a paw
  out and drapes it authoritatively across person's arm.  No interlopers
  need apply ;-)

Kay Klier
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From: K_LEPA@unhh.unh.edu (Kristen   Lepa)
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Organization: University of New Hampshire
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 03:12:53 GMT
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In <HANNAH.92Aug19132640@pomponio.ai.sri.com> hannah@pomponio.ai.sri.com writes:

> 
>    > On a slightly different tack, our calico has a way of popping
>    > straight up in the air off of all four paws at once when startled,
>    > the height off of the ground being directly proportional to the
>    > degree of startle.  We've always called this "toastering".
> 
> As long as we're naming cat behaviors, how about alternate names for
> the insane running around that has been called "the crazies"?  If
> there are 2 or more cats involved, we refer to it as "cat races".
> Therefore, by extension, for one cat, it's "time trials"---preparing
> for future cat races.  If there is mock prey involved, it's "chasing
> windmills" (in honor of Don Quixote's imaginary foes).
> 
> Marsha Jo Hannah


When my cat Hannah runs towards our new cat, she stops short right in
front of his face and hisses.  We call this "air brakes".  There are 
other things, but I can't remember them right now.  

	-Kristen
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Subject: bathing cats (was Re: Rescue cat)
From: machanicm@gtephx.UUCP (Mindy Machanic)
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:51:49 GMT
Organization: AG Communication Systems, Phoenix, Arizona

In article <1992Aug11.185421.10282@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins) writes:
> I'm interested in this too.  I have long-haired cat, one year old, that's never
> been bathed by me.  Beautiful and fresh smelling luxurious coat.  Is it mostly 
> outdoor cats that people are bathing?  Does anyone have an indoor cat over 10 
> years old that has never been bathed?

I have two of them--Sweets is over 16 and never bathed, and Honeycat is over 11
and never bathed. Both are outdoors cats. The most I have ever done is take a
washcloth to some piece of ickiness that had stuck to a paw or a patch of fur.
Never completely bathed either. Never saw a need to!

-- 
Mindy
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From: davek@informix.com (David Kosenko)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Advice on Allergies
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:04:37 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

Karen Prestemon writes:
>	I have also read two little tidbits on cats, and I am wondering
>about their validity.  1)  Do cats kill roaches? 

Don't know about roaches, but I have a cricket infestation in my house
(mostly outside, in the garage, and the basement).  Whenever my kitten,
Otis, sees them, he hunts 'em down and eats 'em.

I have heard that geckos are an effective cockroach eliminator. 

Dave
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From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: My litter box keeps getting tipped over, even when clean.
Date: 12 Aug 92 12:04:55 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

lexier@fraser.sfu.ca (Lyle Lexier) writes:
>      Why does my cat always like to tip over my litter box for?  It sure is
> a pain to always have to clean up the carpet as the litter is all over the
> carpet instead of inside the litter box.  Is there a way to stop my cat from
> always wanting to tip over the litter box?

Chances are he doesn't like the way the litter feels on his feet, and is
trying to balance on the rim of the pan.  DumDum does this, and if he
chooses the end that all the litter is at (courtesy of the other cats),
the pan will rise up and hit him in the fanny, scattering litter all over.

You could try a covered litter pan (though I had to cut a "skylight" in 
mine, or the cats avoided it) or try a different brand of litter.

Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI
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From: dmillard@encore.com (Debbie Millard)
Subject: Cleveland Amory Quotes
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:32:28 GMT


These are some quotes from Cleveland Amory that
were in an old (Oct. '90) issue of Cats Magazine.

I am *not* posting this because I agree or disagree
with Mr. Amory.  I just thought that, given the recent
discussions about him, you would be interested.

Debbie


              The Curmudgeon At Large
           (reprinted without permission)

On animal rights: "Animals have the right to freedom from fear,
     pain and suffering, whether in the name of sciennce or
     sport, fashion or food, exhibition or service.  The right,
     if they are wild, to roam free, unharried by hunters,
     trappers or slaughterers.  If they are domestic, not to be
     abandoned in city streets, by a country road, or in a cruel
     and inhumane pound.  And finally, the right at the end to a
     decent death, not by a club, by a trap, by a harpoon, by
     cruel poison or mass extermination chamber."

On Polar Bear: "He was a cat who did not like new people, and he
     particularly did not like having to meet them.  He had
     already met everyone he wanted to meet, and in fact he would
     have dearly liked to subtract some of those.  He was, when
     you came right down to it, a very republican cat - he did
     not like anything to happen which had not happened before."

On the future of the animal rights movement:  "At the worst I see
     1 million people inorganizations of one person each.  At the 
     best I see people understanding that we must have mergers in
     order to form major societies that will end up in the same
     league as the National Wildlife Federation and the National
     Wildlife Association."

On using animals in laboratory experiments: "Morally people have
     no right to mistreat animals.  They can only resort to the
     practical justification: 'I'm more important than animals
     are.'  But I don't really know whether they are."

On the world condition:  "It would be such a rotten world if
     everything in it had only two legs."

On himself: "You may think I'm an idiot, but don't think I'm
     insincere."
From: gt1167b@prism.gatech.EDU (Christie Shackelford)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: What do you think?
Date: 22 Aug 92 18:03:04 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


More cute cat names:
For my original cat, Fermi (named after the physicist because I
was taking Quantum Mech. when I got her - her sister's name
was Pauli (RIP)) ---->  Fermi-Dee, Da Ferm, Fermicat, Fermi-wermi,
Ferm-a-werm, Floppy Fermi, and Number One Kitty Cat.
Her new companion (I haven't had her long enough to come up with
as many) is named Dixie.  Her alternate names are Dix, Booger,
Pooter-rooter (she farts a _lot_), Miss Dixie, and Kitamus.
(My last kitten, Dylan, didn't have a real name for about a week,
and probably always thought his name was Booger.)

-- 
Christie Shackelford
gt1167b@prism.gatech.edu
Meow!
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