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From: kirk@cs.duke.edu (Scooter Corleone)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Spike Lee (Was: Re: I've got JUNGLE FEVER...)
Keywords: We're in love...
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:01:55 GMT
Organization: The Zymurgy Institute

In article <1992Apr9.043244.27029@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
michaili@blondie.cs.wisc.ed
u (Afroditi Michailidi) writes:
>In article <1992Apr6.212409.6717@ms.uky.edu> nyberg@ms.uky.edu (Jack
Nyberg) writes 
>>
>>Why are they excellent?  Because they provoke thought and don't conclude 
>>with easy answers.  Also Mr. Lee is excellent with the camera and knows
>>his stuff.
>
>The problem is, they often don't conclude at all. I'm a fan of Spike Lee's 
>ever since I saw _She's gotta have it_. Then follows _School Daze_ nice, a
>change of style but ends ever so suddenly. Then _Do the Right Thing_ which
>has no ending at all. Then _Jungle Fever_ which also ends with no answers.
>For me, it's starting to sound like he doesn't _know_ how to end his films
>rather than that he deliberately avoids ending them.
>
>    Don't get me wrong, I like his stuff but (to me) it comes off as if he
>doesn't know how to wrap up a story.
>
Well, gee, maybe it's because *life* doesn't wrap up in nice little endings.
Problems like racism, inner city decay, and drug abuse are serious and
complicated problems that don't have easy answers. It would be irresponsible
and insulting to the viewers' intelligence to present as clear and
unflinching look at societal problems as Spike does in DO THE RIGHT THING
and JUNGLE FEVER and then end with a Hollywood wrap-it-up happy ending. What
should he do, have everyone join hands and sing "All You Need is Love"? I
think it's important and valuable for people like Spike Lee to show what
life is really like, that we have serious problems in our society. I don't
believe it's his responsibility to present answers.

No worries,

Scooter Corleone
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: cam@hawk.adied.oz.au (Cameron Newham)
Subject: Re: Predator II Question
Organization: Australian Defence Industries
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 04:10:38 GMT

birch@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Steve Birch CSD) writes:


> Forgive me if this question has been asked before but....

> At the end of Predator II, the alien leader tosses a gun to our hero then
> says something to him.
> 
> Question: there was an inscription on the gun..what did it say??
> Question: what did the evil dude say??

As far as I understood it, the gun had an inscription on it from the 18th
century.  The scene was meant to imply that the aliens had been to earth
before and "hunted" the natives.  Presumably their previous opponents had
been people in the 18th century.
The inscription itself was just a name and a date.


Cameron Newham  (The Master)       |  We call it
cam@hawk.adied.oz.au               |    Master and Servant.
Australian Defence Industries      |
Bentley                            |       -- Depeche Mode.
Western Australia.                 |
From: fal20643@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Capt. Frank A. Lauro)
Subject: Re: New James Bond?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:15:56 GMT

bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:

>In article <1992Apr14.181435.11796@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, 
>jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Duner) writes:

>>   I read somewhere that the director or producer of the Lethal Weapon films 
>>   wants or now has the rights or whatever to James Bond.

>*Executive* producer - Ron Silver
>Not the director/producer - Richard Donner

>Right Frank?  :^)

Wrong, Greg.  Ron Silver is an actor.  *Joel* Silver executive produced the
LETHAL WEAPON films.

(See whatcha get for being a smart ass?  =) )
--------
Captain Frank A. Lauro          Commanding Officer       University of Illinois
fal20643@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu       USS ALEXA NCC 1764-D     Urbana-Champaign
--------
"Dear God:  I really liked your book.  It had a lot of good stuff in it.
 But then, I've always liked science fiction."
 -- excerpt from CHILDREN'S LETTERS TO GOD
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Classic Films(16mm,VHS);Collectibles
From: rbishop@desire.wright.edu
Date: 11 Apr 92 19:01:33 EST
Organization: Wright State University 

I have a large collection of 16mm sound movie trailers (both TV and
theater length), old commercials, some VHS classic films, film books
and magazines.  Send a message with your interests and I will E-Mail
you a list of what I have.
			Internet:   RBISHOP@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU
			Bitnet:     RBISHOP@WSU.BITNET			
Xref: sparky rec.arts.movies:13650 alt.cult-movies:4014
From: djohnson@perdita.gac.edu (Daniel P Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Darkman - Crap ((YES!)? Not hardly!) Movie of Destiny!
Date: 12 Apr 92 18:07:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: perdita.DJOHNSON.92Apr12130725
 <ytpjwbl@lynx.unm.edu><1992Apr10.004111.24508@crash.cts.com><1992Apr10.192114.16947@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: Fallen Prey to Entropy
In-reply-to: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu's message of Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:21:14 GMTLines: 32

In article <1992Apr10.192114.16947@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter) writes:
.lairdb@crash.cts.com (Laird P. Broadfield) writes:

.>In <ytpjwbl@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:

.>>msr@kepler.unh.edu (Mathew S Reno) writes:

.>>> You have to admit the edits were not done with too much care (In some
.>>> cases too much!) 

.>>I didn't have any problem with the editing of the movie.  They used a lot
.>>of hyperbolic off-the-wall film technique, but lots of us *enjoy* that
.>>kind of thing from time to time.  That's a large part of Raimi's appeal to me. 

.>Absolutely.  If Mathew weren't obsessed with conformity, he might have
.>read the article in American Cinematographer in which several different
.>prominent cinematographers praised Darkman as (paraphrased) a fascinating
.>exploration of the leading edge of cinematographic technique, a fore-
.>runner of techniques to come.

.You mean we might have to see *more* movies with Darkman's editing style?
.Spare us!

Quit yer whining, ya silly son of a person who isn't the very best
type of person for the type of person that he or she is.  You should
be ashamed of yourself.  I accept a full apologize, laminated, bound,
wrapped, melted, chewed, stamped, and regurgitated.


I'm waiting.

Dan aka AVAST YE SCURVY DOGS!!!
From: pbr3u@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Philip Rose)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Astaire and Blue Skies
Date: 13 Apr 92 10:42:34 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department

I would very much like to obtain a copy of the Fred Astaire film
Blue Skies, which has not been released (to my knowledge) in video.
Does anyone out there have a (VHS) copy taped from a tv showing?
I have kept a lookout for its appearance on tv stations for several
years, but have either missed it, or its not been shown.  Thanks much,
Philip Rose (pbr3u@virginia.edu)
From: jlpicard@woofer.austin.ibm.com (Craig Becker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: BASIC INSTINCT (Spoilers!) Who did who?
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:56:39 GMT
Reply-To: craigb@ot.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Object Technology Products

Can anyone fill in the question marks in the following?

Victim			Killer
------			------
Catherine's parents	??????
Berkeley professor	??????
Beth's husband		??????
The ex-rock star	??????
The IAD man		??????
Shooter's partner	??????

Odd thing about this movie is that of the 3 people I've talked
to who've seen it, none of us can agree on who killed who. It
seems like everytime someone comes up with a reasonable answer,
someone else finds something to shoot it down.

Craig
-- "To every man is given the     Craig Becker, Object Technology Products --
--  key to the gates of heaven;         Internet: craigb@ot.austin.ibm.com --
--  the same key opens the gates      Austin: craigb@woofer.austin.ibm.com --
--  of hell" - Buddhist proverb                     VNET: CRAIGB at AUSVM1 --
From: uswg@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (Scott Goffman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Dean R. Koontz
Date: 10 Apr 92 06:48:55 GMT

In <1992Apr10.021333.13427@wam.umd.edu> dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge) writes:

>In article <29E38A42.8485@noiro.acs.uci.edu>, eabu202@orion.oac.uci.edu (Virany Margaret Kreng) writes:
>> With all this talk about Stephen King and his books that are being made
>> into movies, I was wondering if anybody knows of plans to make any of
>> Dean Koontz's bestsellers (particularly THE BAD PLACE, COLD FIRE, PHANTOMS,
>> and THE VOICE OF THE NIGHT) into movies. 

>"Whispers" was made into a film a year or two ago.

>There's another one that just came out on video, but I can't remember
>the title. It's about a little boy that a bunch of cultists believe is
>the Antichrist.

>                                         -Dave Dodge/dododge@wam.umd.edu


Then there's always the "man-in-a-rubber-suit-B-horror-flick" award winner,
Watchers II.  Course, that one did have Marc Singer in it, a big plus...
The movie is an adaptation of Koontz's "Watchers" book, one of his better
works, IMHO.
From: roby@brahms.udel.edu (Scott W Roby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Silly places KOYAANISQATSI is shelved
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:19:38 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <ddrumm.21rn@amiganet.chi.il.us> ddrumm@amiganet.chi.il.us (Daniel Drumm) writes:
>Scott W. Roby:
> 
>KOYAANISQUATSI is one of my top five personal films. I've seen Phillip Glass
>perform live in concert, doing the soundtrack while the movie played behind
>the orchestra. It was awesome. That film moves me.

I'm jealous!
 
>Now, to the point: Does every ad agency director have to watch this film? If
>not, why do so MANY commercials today rip this film off? I've seen everything

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery or something like that.  
Personally I'm pleased that the images of the film have propogated 
into the general culture.  It's unfortunate that only a few of us 
know the source for all these ad images.

Reminds me of all the ads/tv shows that copied the opening musical theme 
and ending "stargate" special effects from 2001 after its release.
 
>For those who haven't seen this film, I recommend going to Rent-A-Center,
>renting the largest direct view TV they have, a Laserdisc player, an amp, some
>great speakers, and watching this is in a dark room. Or, go to the theater.
>Make sure you're REALLY pensive beforehand, however.

What a great idea!  Do you also recommend a source of money for such 
extravagance?  :-)


-- 
Scott W. Roby           *This sentence no verb.*      "No Matter where you go..
Phys.& Astr.Dept.    ///// / /  /  *|*  \  \ \ \\\\\      there you are!"
Univ.of Delaware    ((((( ( (  (  * + *  )  ) ) )))))   -> Buckaroo Banzai
roby@brahms.udel.edu \\\\\ \ \  \  *|*  /  / / /////  -> Mad Max b/y Thunderdome
From: tkorho@cs.joensuu.fi (Tommi Korhonen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Garbage chute blunder in Star Wars?
Date: 6 Apr 92 10:32:29 GMT
Organization: University of Joensuu

martin@zen.maths.uts.edu.au (Martin Caden) writes:

>In article <74vtyg-@rpi.edu>, garrem@aix.rpi.edu (Matthew Olsen Garretson) writes:
>> In Star Wars, when Luke, Leia, Han, & Chewbacca are exchanging fire w/troope>> Leia blasts a hole in the wall and yells "Into the garbage chute, flyboy!".
>> The question here is, how does Leia happen to
>> know there's a garbage chute right there?  Do you suppose Vader took her on >> tour after he tortured her?A

>She shot out the panel before she said "into the garbage chute" so she could
>have guessed what it was by its smell - remember that Chewie didn't want to go
>into it because it stank.  If you really want to go down the dark side of
>justification of every minor detail with increasing tortureous assumptions
>then perhaps there may have been a small litter-chute opening nearby and Leia
>blasted a "humanoid-being"-sized hole where she thought the chute might be :-)

If you look carefully enough: the panel is not solid. It is rather like 
a grid, or bars in a row. So the chute IS visible all the time, she only 
blasts a hole to the bars! 
So what's the logic in having chutes with only few bars at top security 
high valued prisoners cells? I don't know...
Maybe they are there to make life more comfortable for the prisoners! :-)






-- 


 T.Korhonen               -->  Go  ahead!  Make  my  Flame!  <--
student of physics
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies

Folks--

A few months ago, the point was brought up--in this notes group or
one like it--that "It's a Wonderful Life" had, through a blunder
by the studio, found itself in the public domain, which is why so
many video companies, good and bad, were able to sell copies of 
it.  My question for followers of the law:  Assuming the above is
true, does it also follow that the story itself and the characters
thereunto are in the public domain?  I ask because I'm tantalized
by the possibility of doing a novelistic sendup of this well-loved
(rightly so) film.

A followup question:  H. G. Wells' novel THE ISLAND OF DOCTOR
MOREAU is surely by now in the public domain.  I noted on a reread
of the book that two of my favorite bits from the 1930's movie THE
ISLAND OF LOST SOULS, based on Wells, were not in the book, these
being the surgical payback of the manimals to the bad doctor in the
House of Pain (in the book, he's simply found dead in the wild) &
the attempt by Moreau to pair "our hero" with an exotic-looking
young lady who of course turns out to be a converted animal.  The
question is, if I were to retell Wells' story, would I be violating
studio copyright if I were to use these two elements not in Wells'
novel?

Many thanks,
Robert Devereaux
bobdev@hprpcd.rose.hp.com
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From: thogek@seismo.gps.caltech.edu (Thomas Kiefer)
Subject: Re: SEQUEL TO T2 (and Conan)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 22:47:33 GMT


From <1992Apr7.124606.1@mdcbbs.com> rivero@mdcbbs.com:
>  Arnold was on the Mark & Brian show on KLOS, plugging his directorial debut
>in "Christmas In Connecticut".  He did not dismiss the idea of a third
>Terminaor film, explaining that the long delay between the first 2 films was
>not a lack of faith in the project, but having to wait to secure the rights
>from the producers of the 1st film (Hemdale, I think).

Much of the delay had to do with developing the "morph" effect technology, as
well.  The originally written Terminator story was T2 -- they simply didn't
have the technology for the effects at the time, so they scaled it back, and
wrote T1.  Several years later, they found themselves able to do the original
story, took some time to secure the rights from the original producers, and
made T2.

Arnold has said (at the T2 convention, just before T2's release) that he
wants to do a T3 at some point.  James Cameron, however, director of T2, has
emphatically stated: "T3, without me!"  Apparently, T2 was a big enough pain
to finish for him.  Arnold would really prefer to do a T3 with Cameron (and
many of us would prefer to see it that way, if at all), but we'll see.
Maybe Arnold, and T2's success, (and a good T3 story) can change Cameron's
mind.


>A surprising
>note was that he is thinking of doing ( and possibly directing) a third
>"Conan" film.  He likes all the sword films he did, except for "Red Sonya"
>which he says he shows only to people he does not like.

I think I once heard that, when Arnold signed on to do Conan, he originally
signed to (eventually) do three Conan films.  So a third Conan would be
fulfulling an old contract.  (I'm not sure about this, tho.)

                  +-----------------------------------+
                  |   thogek@seismo.gps.caltech.edu   |
                  +-----------------------------------+
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From: ph9jba@nestor.uucp (82245-anglum)
Subject: Re: Thunderheart
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 14:31:14 GMT
Summary: Thunderheart--Rebuttal

In article <rvbmrINN1hv@centurion.ksu.ksu.edu>, ohoward@centurion.ksu.ksu.edu (Todd Howard) writes:
> lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow) writes:
> 
> >Has anyone seen this yet?  Is it any good?
> 
> Spoilers (maybe, maybe not, beats me)
> 
> I personally went to an afternoon showing to see it and thought it
> to be about worth what I paid:  $3.50.  Now, on to comments...
> 
> I have two "major" gripes about this show...  
> 
>   1)  The "spirit dancers" angle on the main character.  The film was very
>       wishy-washy about what exactly was going on...yes, you could easily
>       make some guesses, but I'd have either liked to have seen more of the
>       "spirit angle" or less of it.  In other words, made it more of a
>       fantasy/Sci-Fi detective story, or more of a modern day detective 
>       story.  Either way, it was definitly a detective story.
> 
>   2)  The premise for the "murder."  They throw simple clues at you, and out
>       of no where comes this "mining" stuff.  It seems that they could have
>       either changed the reasoning, or played it up some more...to me it didn't
>       seem like that big of a deal.
> 
> Notes:  Both of the above tend to be due to the fact that this is "based 
> on incidents that occoured on [insert reservation name here] in the 70's"
> My personal opinion was that they should have emphasized or scrapped that
> aspect.  Change the "mining" to something worse and play it up more, or
> turn it into a F/SF detective story.  
> 
> Todd
> -- 
>  "The statistics on death are in, and they're pretty convincing.  One out
>   of every one people die."   -Unknown
> 
> Todd O. Howard (ohoward@matt.ksu.ksu.edu)

The Movie was based on the b"In the Spirit of Crazy Horse" which has been
surpressed by the .S. Government for approximately 10 years.  (I have the 
original edition which was allowed the be sold for about 2 days before being pullpulled of the bookshelves.)  THe events took place on Pine Ridge Reservation
from about 1974-1976.  The traditionals were being slaughtered by the Tribal
Chairman and his GOON squad (=Duvalier Hiti and his TON TON MACUTE) because
1.  they were again hs kind of "progress" 2..They are for the most part
full-bloods while generally the approved "leaders of councils are 1/2 lood
or sometimes less than 1/2.  The part about the mining is taking place TODAY
in Navaholand by the Peabody Mining Company (see BROKEN RAINBOW) documentary.
Vl's part is a metaphor for the young warrior seeking his name -- he goes
out on a vision quest (crying for a vision -- hamblacheea)--I thought his
performance more than adequate.  Great performance by Graham Greene (Mohawk)
and the old Grandfather (medicine person) who actually may have been 
Oglala Lakota -- Fred Ward ? Wasichu.

See the movie -- please.

Jeannine Crowfoot


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From: sam@loral.cts.com (Sam Hallmark)
Subject: THE ULTIMATE "GUITAR" MOVIE
Keywords: OOBY-DOOBY,RAY-BANS AND THE WILD WEST!!! 
Organization: Loral Instrumentation
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 18:45:01 GMT



     Boy Howdy, Kyle E. Moore !!!

          The All-time cult classic "guitar" movie is without a doubt
     the 1965 release of "The Fastest Guitar in the West" starring the
     late, great Roy Orbison. Now I realize that "really GOOD guitar
     playing" was not the main focus of the Orbs vast talent . . .
     But hey, how can you resist a movie where this alien greased-back
     rockabilly lone gun cleans up crime and corruption in the prairie
     town of "Cactus Gulch", and sings a few torch songs while playing
     his big ol' geetar . . . that also doubles as a double-barrel
     widowmaker. Quite honestly this movie has to be seen to be believed!
          It ping-pongs from utter camp to some truly riveting musical
     interludes when Roy exposes the bitter loneliness he is forced to
     bear with as:

                " THE FASTEST GUITAR IN THE WEST !!!"

                    KAAPOWWW ! ! !  KAAPOWWW ! ! !

   
                                         Hope this helps Hombre,
                                         Sam (the Animation Man)
                                          Hallmark

     P.S. You can almost see poor old Roy grit his teeth and cringe in a
          couple of close-ups. I guess his manager thought if Elvis could
          be a movie star, Roy was a cinch to follow in his shoes . . .
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From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Darkman - Crap ((YES!)? Not hardly!) Movie of Destiny!
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:21:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux1.1992Apr10.192114.16947
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

lairdb@crash.cts.com (Laird P. Broadfield) writes:

>In <ytpjwbl@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:

>>msr@kepler.unh.edu (Mathew S Reno) writes:

>>> You have to admit the edits were not done with too much care (In some
>>> cases too much!) 

>>I didn't have any problem with the editing of the movie.  They used a lot
>>of hyperbolic off-the-wall film technique, but lots of us *enjoy* that
>>kind of thing from time to time.  That's a large part of Raimi's appeal to me. 

>Absolutely.  If Mathew weren't obsessed with conformity, he might have
>read the article in American Cinematographer in which several different
>prominent cinematographers praised Darkman as (paraphrased) a fascinating
>exploration of the leading edge of cinematographic technique, a fore-
>runner of techniques to come.

You mean we might have to see *more* movies with Darkman's editing style?
Spare us!

                                                --Steve Stelter
                                               sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (K. Khan)
Subject: Re: extreme violence, sex, and sci-fi!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:09:09 GMT


In article <1992Apr5.051816.21516@news.Hawaii.Edu> teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (A. Lani Teshima) writes:
>
>My father-in-law is regional manager for a chain of videostores in the
>southeast, and he told me that the video is probably not
>available in any of his stores because they all got ripped off because
>they're so rare. We were hoping to use him as a connection to get a
>copy ourselves--no luck.

Hmm... I wonder what bootleg copies of this movie on home video sell
for?