HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mcgraw@sunspot.noao.edu (Robert McGraw)
Subject: Re: Plenty of free space on drive, but 100% full?
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 13:46:20 GMT

In article <363@ftms.UUCP> brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>In article <TIBBS.92Oct7003200@bifur.math.uh.edu> tibbs@bifur.math.uh.edu (Jason L Tibbitts III) writes:
><After upgrading a Sparc 2 to 4.1.3 (from 4.1.1B) and doing the obligatory
><fsck, I get from df:
><
><Filesystem            kbytes    used   avail capacity  Mounted on
></dev/sd0a               7573    5922     894    87%    /
></dev/sd0g              85789   77442       0   100%    /usr
><...
><
><Now how on earth did this thing learn to subtract?
><
><Deleting some small file aill make the "avail" number go negative, but
><after a while it will spontaneously go back to zero.  A full fsck from
><single user and a reboot doesn't help anything.
><
><Any ideas?  (Please let it not be the 'ol "backup and restore"!)
>
>You obviously don't know about BSD file structures.  There is a 10% buffer


I guess the really big question is do BIG disk (1-3GB in size) 
really need the full 10%? For a 1.7GB drive 170MB seems to
be a lot of slop. Does it really need to be this big? 
Has anyone tried a smaller percentage?

Robert

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From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Warning: SunOS 4.1.x w/ multiple swap files
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:20:48 GMT
Reply-To: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout

In article <1992Oct8.203613.5099@qualix.com> dshaker@qualix.com writes:
<
<I have never seen this mentioned here, but maybe I just haven't been
<reading long enough...
<
<We have found that systems whose swap space consists of a swap
<parition and some N swap files in the regular file system
<exhibit the following behavior:
<
<	N = 0 or 1	Very stable - stay up a month or more.
<
<	N = 2		Usually stable - though may crash as often
<			as once a week.
<
<	N = 3 or more	Unstable - crashs at least once a day.  Error
<			is usually "hat_pteload".

If it hurts, don't do it.  If you can get away with making real swap areas,
then maybe you should do that.

I have three real swap partitions on my SS2, running 4.1.2 and have not had
a crash yet.

If you are making the swap areas available to the network, then I don't have
an answer.  But, if the swap areas on used locally, then you might consider
making some real swap areas on the disks.
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From: rhaar@albert.cs.gmr.com (Bob Haar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Need postscript filter for lpd
Date: 9 Oct 92 11:48:36 GMT
Reply-To: rhaar@albert.cs.gmr.com
Organization: G.M. Research and Environmental Staff

In article 19505@socrates.umd.edu, mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. Santangelo) writes:
|>Have just configured an APPLE LaserWriter printer to the serial
|>port of our Sun IPC (SunOS 4.1.1).  I got the printcap entry
|>working so that I can zap a native postscript data file to the
|>printer via 'lp' and have it print correctly.  What I need now
|>is a postscript filter that will enable me to have another queue
|>pointing to the save device that can be used to print normal ASCII
|>text (flat files).  

I don't think that you need anything more. I am running a 
similar setup (Aplle LaserWriter Plus on a Sun 4/330 running 4.1.1)
and print either PostScript files or plain ASCII text files.

Try using lpr rather than lp. If I do a "lpr <file>", this
works no matter whether the file is straight ASCII or PostScript.

Do you PostSCript files start with a line like "%! ....." ?
How are they generated?


|>Also, something that prints a generic banner
|>page in postscript to the printer (with username & time, etc) would
|>certaintly be nice. 
|>

Look at the "hl" field in the printcap entry. Setting this to true
causes the pritning of a burst page with much of this information.


|>-- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting --
|>M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA
......

What is all this stuff? It looks like some uuencoded bianry file,
but doesn't get recognized as an attachment by SUn's MailTool. 
If this is some NEXT specific information, you should turn it off when
you are posting to a group where most people are on Suns.

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From: rouilj@cs.umb.edu (John P. Rouillard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Size of swap file
Date: 7 Oct 92 21:28:52 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston


In article <1992Oct7.132659.6926@fripp.ri.cadre.com>  jh@cadre.com 
	(Joe Hartley) writes:

>   Now, considering that I can't dynamically allocate swap space from the 
>   free space on my hard drive, and that I'm only going to determine the

Maybe not dynamically, but adding swap FILES can help a lot, and it is
certianly more dynamic that adding a swap partition.

>   amount of disk space to allocate to swap when I'm a) setting up a new
>   machine or b) adding RAM, how should I make such am decision at that
>   time?  I've always found the RAM x 2 formula to be a great rule of thumb
>   for determining such things.

>   How would *you* determine the swap area at setup time?


I wouldn't. I would allocate just as much as was needed for memory,
then use mkfile and swapon to add more if necessary. When it came time
to upgrade the system or otherwise screw around with disk space etc, I
would add up all of the swap files that I have and add that size swap
partition if I find too much space wasted in swap files (usually
greater than 1/4 to 1/2 of my original swap partition), I would add a
new swap partition of that size, since swap files don't perform as
well as swap partitions. Granted none of this works if you don't have
SunOS, but then again this is comp.sys.sun.

Anyway, I have spent time optimizing the available disk space/swap
space on systems my users use as their job loads change. Just part of
the job of doing system administration.

-- John
From: napier@cs.ucsd.edu (Jim Napier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: GS board and PHIGS
Date: 7 Oct 92 22:27:49 GMT
Organization: AMES Dept., UC San Diego



We have a Sparc 2 with a GS board that's running PHIGS. As near as I can tell
the software should be intelligent enough to make use of the graphics card
if it exists but that doesn't seem to be happening. No advanced rendering
or colormapping occurs. Is there something we're missing here? How do you
get PHIGS to make full use of the graphics board? Thanks.

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From: mch@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca (Mark C. Henderson)
Subject: Re: Plenty of free space on drive, but 100%
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Surrey, British Columbia, CANADA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:17:33 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.131720.13429@ericsson.se> etxorst@eos.ericsson.se writes:
>In article 14053@inmos.co.uk, hughm@brwah.inmos.co.uk (Hugh McIntyre) writes:
>>In article <TIBBS.92Oct7003200@bifur.math.uh.edu>, tibbs@bifur.math.uh.edu (Jason L Tibbitts III) writes:
>>This behaviour has been the same since at least SunOS 3.5.
>>
>>|> Any ideas?  (Please let it not be the 'ol "backup and restore"!)
>>
>>It's normal.  You don't have to do anything.  If you do want to put more
>>stuff in /usr then root can create stuff up to 110%, otherwise you will have
>>to repartition the disk.
>
>Or you can newfs the partition with -m 0 which will get rid of the 10 %
>loss. But net.wisdom has it the disk performance will be abyssimal when

On many systems you can just use tunefs to adjust minfree.

Mark
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From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Automounter: what's it good for?
Date: 16 Oct 1992 16:15:49 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com

In article <JRE.92Oct15120927@suprenum.liv.ac.uk> jre@liv.ac.uk (John Ellis) writes:
>Currently the system is smaller than this and all drives are
>permanently cross-mounted from all other machines with disks. This
>seems to work OK. When the system grows to the above, would I see any
>performance improvement by using the automounter? In other words, is
>having a mounted but unaccessed remote disk causing any load that the
>automounter could remove?

Someone else already answered this part, but I want to agree with him.  The
major benefit of the automounter is that you're less likely to hang if one
of the file servers you don't care about goes down, since there's a good
chance you don't have any of its file systems mounted.

>Also, would using the automounter make things easier to administer for me
>even if it doesn't help the users?

Yes.  You can put automount maps in NIS, so adding a new file system or
file server only requires updating one file, instead of every system's
fstab.

>Finally, if an automounter is a good idea, is the amd one better than
>sun's for this scale of things?

I've heard that it's much more reliable, and it's also more featureful;
however, the extra features create additional complexity (I couldn't
understand some of the documentation when I first read it).  If we were
starting from scratch we'd probably use it now, but automount is serving us
well enough that it would be more trouble to change now (we have hundreds
of client machines, and also some non-Unix machines that only understand
automount-style maps).
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: apk@phoenix (Ari-Pekka Kvist)
Subject: SUN,Novell&Charon-gateway
Organization: University of Oulu, Finland
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:40:52 GMT


Hello sunny people

Does anyone have any experiences about connecting SUN to Novell through 
Charon Gateway? We are planning to do so but due to our restricted abilities
we didn't succeed very well. 
We have SUN Sparcstation II and Novell netware v 3.11. We have also 
HP III si which is attached to Novell. Printer can do both PostScipt and PCL. 
Our aim is configure SUN so, that it can print to HP's printq's.
If anyone of you has done it previously, please tell me how to do it.
I'm not UNIX-guru so I'm very pleased if instructions are quite exact.

Ari-Pekka Kvist
apk@phoenix.oulu.fi




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From: wargopl@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Peter L. Wargo)
Subject: Re: Running a Sun without a swap partition or file
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:44:20 GMT

pen@lysator.liu.se (Peter Eriksson) writes:

>I got curious the other day when our Sequent Balance's swap disk power
[...]
>Anyway, this got me to wish that there was an option to run a SunOS system
>without any backing swap partion or file at all. Ie, it should only use
>the system RAM and never page or swap..

>Anyone know if there is some nice adb trick that can be used to patch
>SunOS into allowing this? Would be a great disk saver if the machines has
>plenty of RAM.

COuldn't you just build a kernel with the following config line?

root on sd0a swap on ns0b

I thought that ns worked for this purpose.  I seem to remember using it as a
specifier when loading the RAM-based unix before installation.

-Pete

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From: harvey@bucknell.edu (Mike Harvey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Sun repairs
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:35:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: coral.1bmng7INNfn8
Reply-To: harvey@bucknell.edu
Distribution: world
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.cs.bucknell.edu

Does anyone know of a source for schematics for Sun workstations and
monitors?  We would like to do some repairs ourselves, but the Field
Engineer's Handbook does not have suffiecient information for our
technicians.  Does anyone have experience with on-site repair of 
power supplies and/or monitors?  Any help would be appreciated.

Mike Harvey
Systems Engineer
Bucknell University
Lewisburg, Pa 17837
harvey@sol.cs.bucknell.edu
Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.admin:7205 comp.windows.x.motif:6791
From: harish@zen.cac.stratus.com (Harish Manchaiah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: Blinking cursor in xterm.
Keywords: Cursor, Blink, Xterm, X11R4
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:09:38 GMT
Followup-To: poster

Hi,
	How do you make a cursor blinking in xterm(X11R4/Motif)?

	Any response is greatly appreciated.

thanks,
-harish


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From: ignatios@theory.cs.uni-bonn.de (Ignatios Souvatzis)
Subject: Re: Help for slip on 4/110's
Organization: /home/theory/ignatios/.organization
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:46:00 GMT

Use PPP. You will get, in the long run, less configuration problems. 

If you want autodialup, use dp-2.2-beta (and all patch files) from
phoenix.acn.purdue.edu., directory pub/ 

You'll find there also some DialupPPP.doc and PPP.readme, describing
advantages of that version. I have it running here.

If you really, really never want to be able to do autodialup, use
ppp-1.1.tar.Z from ftp.cayman.com. directory err... I forgot...

I had it's predecessor, pppd-1.01beta.tar.Z, running here.

More questions/help requests to comp.protocols.ppp or
dp-list@phoenix.acn.purdue.edu, (but subscribe first to the latter by
writing to ks@phoenix.acn.purdue.edu).

Regards,


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: zrajs01@sunap1.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Jochen Schmid)
Subject: fix 100465
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 09:43:08 GMT

We are locking for Patch 100465-01, fixeing bugs in libresolv.a.
Any ftp site out there to get this patch ?


       Jochen Schmid, Abteilung Anwendungssoftware, ZDV
       Universitaet Tuebingen
       Tel.: + 07071-29 6018, Fax : + 07071-29 5912 
       Internet mail: schmid@mailserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de
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From: rackow@skeeve.mcs.anl.gov (Gene Rackow)
Subject: Re: Problem with ypbind
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Chicago, Illinois
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:54:14 GMT


The way I found to force ypbindings to the right machine is to use
the securelib package.  Not only does it allow you to do the forced
bindings, but you can get some added security by only allowing things on
your {sub}net to get access to various parts of the system.

Get the "securelib" package from eecs.nwu.edu in the /pub/securelib
directory.  Then as part of the install, build your /etc/securelib.conf
file to look something like this.  My network is 140.221.X.Y and
the local interface on a machine that I have ypbind running on is
140.221.22.36.  This limits all of the daemons that I start with the
securelib package to be available ONLY to the 140.221 addresses, and
forces ypbind to only work off of the local interface.

#
# Example config file for securelib.
#
# <name>        <address>       <mask>
#
all             127.0.0.0       0.255.255.255
ypbind          140.221.22.36   0.0.0.0
portmap         140.221.0.0     0.0.255.255
ypserv          140.221.0.0     0.0.255.255
ypxfrd          140.221.0.0     0.0.255.255
rpc.ypupdated   140.221.0.0     0.0.255.255
rpc.mountd      140.221.0.0     0.0.255.255
rpc.yppasswdd   140.221.0.0     0.0.255.255


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From: damon@etsun.tech.iupui.edu (Damon Beals)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: C2security
Keywords: C2security
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:26:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: ethome.1992Oct13.192626.2588
Reply-To: damon@tnt.cadcam.iupui.edu
Organization: Purdue University - School of Engr. and Tech.


	I want to start running C2 security.  So my question is will
running C2 cause any problems.  Does it cause any problems with NIS.

Also we are running around 300 Bw-NFS machine.  Will the bwnfsd handle
the password correctly.  

Does anyone have any horror stories with changing to C2 security.


   Thanks Damon
From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Size of swap file
Date: 7 Oct 1992 16:20:47 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com

In article <1992Oct7.132659.6926@fripp.ri.cadre.com> jh@cadre.com writes:
>Now, considering that I can't dynamically allocate swap space from the 
>free space on my hard drive, and that I'm only going to determine the
>amount of disk space to allocate to swap when I'm a) setting up a new
>machine or b) adding RAM, how should I make such am decision at that
>time?  I've always found the RAM x 2 formula to be a great rule of thumb
>for determining such things.
>
>How would *you* determine the swap area at setup time?

Well, if you don't allow the possibility of reconfiguring after initial
setup, then it's extremely difficult to determine the appropriate swap
space.

The correct way to configure swap space is to make a guess (it's best to
guess high if you can), then run as heavy a load as you think you'll ever
run and see how good your guess was.  Run "pstat -s", and if there's lots
of available swap space then you can shrink your swap partition by that
amount.  If you underestimated your swap space requirements then you'll
discover this when you get "no more memory" errors (the reason I suggest
guessing high is that these error don't tell you how far off you were, but
pstat -s will tell you how much you overestimated).

When adding RAM, I don't see why you should need to increase swap space
unless your RAM will be larger than your old swap.  For instance, if you
have a machine with 100MB of swap and 32MB of RAM, and it doesn't complain
of running out of virtual memory, and you add another 16MB of RAM, you
probably don't need any more swap space.  This is a simple analysis, and in
real life things depend on *why* you added more memory.  If you're going to
run the same applications, but want them to go faster, you don't need more
swap; however, if you added more memory because another user will be using
the machine or it will be running some additional servers, you'll probably
need more swap space to accomodate these new processes.
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: jdell@nefertiti.mit.edu (John Ellithorpe)
Subject: Re: /var/yp/Makefile needed
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:24:31 GMT

On 13 Oct 92 18:11:52 GMT, lapeyre@oasys.dt.navy.mil (J P Lapeyre) said:

> I'm trying to start up yellow pages (now NIS) and I didn't even have
> /var/yp on my system even though all NFS stuff was installed. Can some
> one e-mail or post their default Makefile so I can get it.  I got sys
> 4.1.1 on CD-ROM and can find no way to intelligently get one file off
> the CD. It's not in TAR format. THANX, JP

In the /usr/lib directory, you should have the Makefile, it's called 
/usr/lib/NIS.Makefile.  You should put that in your /var/yp directory.

John
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From: lfm@pgroup.com (Larry Meadows)
Subject: Re: PC-NFS : yp_match failed
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 20:52:09 GMT
Organization: The Portland Group, Portland, OR

In article <1992Oct9.211343.804@evb.com> mahesh@evb.com writes:
>I have installed PC-NFS 4.0 on our 486. On our sun I see
>the following message very often,
>
>Oct  9 16:32:44 gadget pcnfsd[134]: rpc.pcnfsd: yp_match failed
>
>What could cause such an error to occur?
>
>B.G. Mahesh
>mahesh@evb.com

Me too -- I've got the same problem and would appreciate any info.



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From: luisg@hadar.fai.com (Luis Galleguillos)
Subject: Sparc 10s and network traffic
Originator: luisg@lugano
Keywords: networks, traffic
Organization: Fujitsu NTS
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:55:53 GMT


I will be installing 10 Sparc 10s on my net which has already
many workstations.

What is the network I/O throughput of the SS 10 ?

I understand it has the tendency to clog the net.

How can I predict its impact on the net?

Benchmarks? Test? software simulation tools?

What is the terminology? Net I/O?


What are some of the users' experiences?


Thanks

Luis
luisg@hadar.fai.com


      
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From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: UUCP between two Suns using WorldBlazers
Date: 9 Oct 92 23:57:45 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>However... There doesn't seem
>to be complete documentation of send-expect special commands in the online
>man pages or in the comments of the Dialers or Systems files. Are they
>strictly limited to the HDB set? (I don't even know for sure that straight
>HDB supports those at all, though I can look that up.)

P_ZERO and company are BSDisms I stuck into the 4.1[.x] HDB UUCP.  They
*are* documented in the UUCP stuff in the "Systems and Networking
Administration" manual or whatever the hell the big fat systems
administration document in the DocuCrate is called.

Bill Shannon stuck "STTY=" in somewhere; it lets you set arbitrary
"termios" modes on the port, e.g. "crtscts".

Other than that, the only stuff in there beyond what's in the SVR3.2 HDB
upon which Bill initially based the 4.1[.x] UUCP is the stuff we picked
up from Peter Honeyman and stuck in.