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From: jturley@netcom.com (Jim Turley)
Subject: Re: bad idea to post pictures of Miyazawa Rie
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:32:35 GMT

Thats what the "K" Key is for....if you dont like the subject, DONT
READ IT.  Come on, a 25 character msg with a title, is that a waste
of bandwidth? 

This newsgroup is UPTIGHT. You wouldnt believe the requests Ive gotten
from Japanese netters, ladies too.  Over there, they JUST DONT SEE
WHATS MAKING YOU WHITE GUYS SO UPTIGHT!


Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: molenda@msi-i9.msi.umn.edu (Jason Molenda)
Subject: Re: Recommend History Books/Authors?
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 02:48:15 GMT

jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen) writes:

>keis@psy.uwa.oz.au (Keis Ohtsuka) writes:

>>Japanese obviously had a foresight to learn baseball from Americans
>>before they got bogged down in the Civil War.  I can't imagine
>>Japan without baseball.

>I was under the impression that baseball was a post-war (dainijitaisen)
>arrival. Certainly I can't imagine it being tolerated in the 1930s.
>Has anyone firmer dates on this?

It was introduced before 1900 for sure.  I think it was shortly after
the Meiji Restoration.  There is a good history of baseball in ``You
Gotta Have Wa'' (by `Whitting'?  Something like that.  Usually found in
the `Baseball' section in US bookstores).  I tried to find my copy but
I'm moving to Japan in a couple of weeks and I can't find anything
these days.
-- 
Jason Molenda, University of Minnesota, Supercomputer Inst., Technical Support
SGI Iris Admin        molenda@jason.msi.umn.edu       DoD #1867     '77 CB750F
From: ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Gifts from America to Japan [SUMMARY]
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:34:32 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1idvrjINN180@shelley.u.washington.edu> yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii) writes:
>dali@stein.u.washington.edu (David A. Lee) writes:
>
>>Tetsuya Nishimura was kind enough to mail me this list of 
>> 	 [...]
>>        *beef/buffalo jerky for those who drink
>
>Is it OK now to bring back jerkies?  I think it used to be forbidden.
>How about seeds of some herbs plants (eg cilantro)? Would these be illegal?
>
	
	As long as I know it is OK if it's dried or cooked meat.  If it is
	uncooked, like a certain kind of ham, you need a "health certificate 
	(kenko^ sho^mei sho)" of an animal from which the ham is made.  :-)

	They sell jerkies at duty free shops at the airport where *lots* of 
	Japanese are hunting for omiyage.  I myself once bought some for omiyage	and had no problem.  I even sent some by mail, too.



>>        *peeler (YES, vegitable peelers!)
>>            and some other kitchen utencils may be interesting to the Japanese
>>            e.g. salt/pepper shakers in funny shapes
>
>Someone told me staple remover was unusual in Japan. Is this still true?
>

	We do have some.  And usually, staplers (hotchikisu) are equipped with
	one on them.


>>        *knives for outdoor oriented person
>
>Remember not to carry knives in your carry-on luggage.  Airlines don't like it.
>

	Right.  One interesting story related to this.  When I fly from the US
	to Japan, security personels do not care about my Swiss Army knife which	I usually carry on me on my waist.  But when I fly from Japan with it
	on me, I am always asked to put it in a box which the captain of my 
	plain keeps until we arrive the entry port.  I can receive the box 
	there, and thereafter no problem carrying it onboard.

	Oh, for those who are interested in martial arts.  Do not bring back 
	nunchuk (nuNchaku), which Bruce Lee often used in his movies, in your
	carry-on.  It is considered a deadly weapon, and in some part of the 
	US, it is even prohibited.



>>        *nuts in shells  (YES, almonds and pecans etc.)
>
>Again, would these be OK through the custom in Japan?
>


	Hmmm, actually I am not very sure.  If it is cooked or processed, of 
	course it's OK.  But if it is raw, you may have to get it quarantined.


>>        *foods
>>                e.g. jello, instant muffins, M&M's, Snicker's, etc. to show
>>                        how sweet American foods are...:-)
>
>Giant chocolate bars (those 1 lbs Hersheys) seem to impress people.
>"Iyaa!, sasuga Amerika saizu desu nee ..."[1]  :-)


	Agree.  :-)

[magazine stuff deleted]


				Tetsuya Nishmura
From: jp@wuntvor.pillar.com (J.P.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Souvenir from Japan [SUMMARY]
Date: 9 Jan 93 15:32:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: wuntvor.6Z94wB2w165w
Distribution: world
Organization: The Eternal Apprentice BBS, Norman, OK


       I would suggest going to a local art fair.  Most cities have them at
least once a year, usually in the spring.  Local artisans display their work
and offer it for sale. It is usually well priced, and you can find some very
interesting items.  Otherwise, consult your local Chamber of Commerce, they
specialize in helping local industry.

       -JP 

--
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From: jcliu@four-lab4.Berkeley.EDU (James C. Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Need Help with Phone Number of Company
Date: 11 Jan 1993 02:54:25 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley Dept. of Nuclear Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: four-lab4.berkeley.edu

Mina-san:

Sorry to waste bandwidth, but I'm at the end of my rope.  Frustrated,
tired and pissed off at the lack of service ....in the USA!

I need some help with a phone number in Japan.  I am looking for
book covers for karaoke song books.  When you go to karaoke, the
karaoke bar has song listing books.  Well, a friend of mine, wants
to buy 10 plastic covers to protect the books from beer and sake
when the okyaku-sama-tachi accidentally spill their beer.
The friend lost the invoice for the books and the other distributors
don't seem to know what the heck we're talking about.  I called the
overseas operator...AT&T Tokyo.  She don't know jack either...:-(
The book I have has no information inside the cover on the company.
But the outside of the book looks like:

        -----------------------------------
        |          We ^^ ^^  Song         |
        |             \/ \/Ai o utaimashoo|
        |                                 |
        |                                 |
        |                                 |
        |                                 |
        |                                 |
        |                                 |
        |                                 |
        |                                 |
        |                                 |
        |                                 |
        |                                 |
        |                                 |
        |                                 |
        |                                 |
        |                                 |
        |                                 |
        |                                 |
        |   LPC JS Title List #4          |
        |_________________________________|

The book is around 1 cm thick and pink on the outside.  It has around
3000 song titles inside.

I was wondering if anybody out there might know the phone number of
this company.  I'd really appreciate it.  Doumo Arigatou Gozaimasu.

Jaa, James
=======================================================================
James C. Liu |    KARAOKE Addict!     Karaoke: You're the STAR!!!!    |
             |    Wanna go? Need someone who sings worse than you do? |
             |    Know about a cool karaoke bar? send e-mail          |
=======================================================================
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: Recommend History Books/Authors?
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:47:54 GMT

In article <jwb.726448138@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au> jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen) writes:
>fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
>
>>In article <jwb.726385740@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au> jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen) writes:
>
>>>>During 1853-1890s, there
>>>>were momentous events in the USA; the Civil War, which perhaps gave
>>>>Japan an extra time to shape up the nation because the USA was
>>>>going through a painful process of division/reunion of the nation.
>
>>>Hmmm, possibly only true if the US had been the sole player. You have
>>>taken the typical US-centric view of things, but in fact Britain, Russia
>>>and France had also been chipping away too. It was just that Perry turned
>>>up with the most guns and arrogance.
>
>>Hmm. How had they been chipping away? While there is no doubt that they wanted
>>some sort of treaty with Japan, it is a fact that it was the Americans who
>>caused Japan to reconsider its status; the efforts of the other countries were
>>ignored.
>
>A bit like saying the camel's broken back was solely due to the last straw.
>
>If you stick to elementary school histories you will get the:

I suppose the Englishman who taught at Tokyo Imperial University is elementary
school level, then.

>Japan-was-closed-but-brave-Commodore-Perry-arrived-and-opened-it line.
>In fact many countries had been sending ships for about 30 years before,
>as well as messages and entreaties via Nagasaki. Perry's finally 
>successful visit was by no means the first from the US. The reason
>the US succeeded was that no-one else had the arrogance to turn up
>with a complete fleet and demand entrance at gun-point.

So your disgust is that Perry did it right? Remember, as this DID result in a
long span of revolution against the shogunate, which proved ineffectual at
keeping out the barbarians. 

And how are we to be impressed that these other nations had been trying for
years, yet failed?

>The shougunate's closure of Japan had been weakening for years. It was
>about to give way.

Uh, not quite, and that is STILL far from "opening up".

>>> Britain also supplied most of the shipping and Navy.
>
>>Not according to Chamberlain; the French played a very prominent role, as did
>>the US.
>
>Get a list of the Japanese ships that whipped the Russians at Tsushima,
>and see where they were built.

Look up who built and manned the Japanese shipyards. It really was a multi-
national effort.

Mike
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conveniently defined conspiracy, or b) my wife.
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Date: Thu,  7 Jan 93 15:26:49 MST
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: World trading -- who's rules?  Was: Brainwashed
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
From: luke@newt.ee.byu.edu (David Luke)

In article <1id1ppINNpif@shelley.u.washington.edu> yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii) writes:

>If S. Africa, China, or some other country want to join the group of
>nations in trade and exchanges, then they ought to play by our rules.

There's a problem, which gets somewhat off of the "can we evaluate cultures
in terms of good and bad", but which is (IMO) an important one.  Who os
"us"?  Is it the US, or Japan, or the EC, or the intersection of the above?
At what percentage of the world trade does a country become an "us" instead
of a "them"?

A lot of our friction with Japan (tradewise) seems to stem from these
issues.

I hate to change the subject on a good solid s.c.j. argument, but, any
comments?  Ideas?
-- 
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|  luke@wombat.ee.byu.edu           image of a fuzzy concept."                 |
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From: denmark@altair.csustan.edu (Mark Dinh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Wanted: Clothed GIFs of Takahanada
Date: 13 Jan 93 04:19:34 GMT
Organization: CSU Stanislaus

In article <1993Jan12.233031.1278@netcom.com> jturley@netcom.com (Jim Turley) writes:
>Ok Ok, I give up.  Is this ok? There actually may be some real interest
>in what this popular sumo guy looks like.  After all, he snagged one of
>the richest ladies in Japan.  Ok netters, the question is, how come this
>guys so lucky?

Ironically, I hear it was Rie Miyazawa who snagged one of the most well-known
person in Japan.  Hearing from my friend who read an article about the T&M
engagement, he stated that Takahanada is actually higher in social status 
therefore she should be fortunate, socially, to be marrying Takahanada.  IMHO,
I think it is Takahanada who is fortunate to marry Miyazawa.  Looking at 
Takahanada, I don't know how he could marry Miyazawa.  Seriously, I seen a 
photo of them together and they don't look right.  I guess it was "true love".
I was wondering, does Rie Miyazawa's mother control everything of Rie Miyazawas?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: barrera@mtu.edu (Barrera)
Subject: Re: bad idea to post pictures of Miyazawa Rie
Organization: Michigan Technological University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:38:05 GMT

jturley@netcom.com (Jim Turley) writes:
: Just tell me one thing: Is, or is not, Miss Miyazawa NEWS in Japan.
: Is or is not Miss Miyazawa of interest to people interested in 
: one of the richest stars in japan.  Get with it.  
: 

Come on Jim, whether she is NEWS or not does not necessarily mean naked
pictures and how good they are should be talked about on this newsgroup
as opposed to those newsgroup that were setup exactly for that purpose.

: Because I choose to share a multi media object withe SCJ netters who
: dont have the 50 bucks to spare, does that offend you.  Then blow off
: to some other news group.  Just because you live in Japan and are married
: to a Japanese doesnt even begin to qualify you to inject Western 
: protestant points of view into this forum.
: 

Please Jim, tell us what knowledge and qualifications you have concerning
non-western whatever-religion-or-lack-thereof points of view, particularly
Japanese ? Would this kind of thing happen on fj.* newsgroups ? Maybe they
would, but I would be interested in hearing under which context it would
happen.


-chris barrera     barrera@Mtu.edu

: As I said before.  Chill out.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga)
Subject: Re: Recommend History Books/Authors?
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 06:30:24 GMT

In article <1igajuINNma4@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> keis@psy.uwa.oz.au (Keis Ohtsuka) writes:
>industries a way before 1953. As a result, a large number of
>Japanese learned three Rs (Reading, Writing, and Arithmetics)
>at Buddist temple schools (Terakoya) starting around the 18th Century.

A small picking on a fine article (and 1"8"53, by the way :-) --
Although terakoya had relations with temples in their origin
(in the Kamakura era), most of them had little or no relation with
Buddhism or temples.
They were small private schools meant for lower-age children of town citizens.
Many had only a single classroom and were run by a single master/teacher,
who were unemployed samurai (rounin) or learned citizens.
Samurai children had their schools of their own or had private tutors,
and I thought there was a similar system for farmers (though I'm not sure).

-Yuzuru Hiraga
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: jturley@netcom.com (Jim Turley)
Subject: Re: bad idea to post pictures of Miyazawa Rie
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 03:10:44 GMT

Point well taken.  Translation error.  The word is "gaijin", that is,
foreigners. Just that the usage of "hakujin" is frequent in Japan.  But, 
yes, I should have said, just why are you foreigners so hot and bothered
over a little skin.  Get it?
From: tanaka@til.til.com (Yokichi Tanaka)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: College Sweatshirts (was: Roman Hikou)
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:57:00 GMT
Organization: Togai InfraLogic, Inc.

In article <1992Dec31.210120.20111@Csli.Stanford.EDU>, hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:
|> In article <1hubj3INN9gc@agate.berkeley.edu> jcliu@four-lab4.Berkeley.EDU (James C. Liu) writes:
|> >    A few good choices for omiyage are: sweatshirts (a.k.a tureenaa) from 
|> >a famous university (like Berkeley!), ...
|> 
|> Naw, naw, naw; who'd bother about a team that doesn't make the Top 25?
|> It's the brand label that counts, like UCLA, USC, or Notre Dame
|> (Come to think of it, Stanford beat all of them (and Cal, of course)).
|> 
|> And never mind about MIT (this, actually, is good advice).
|> 

Actually, what I heard from the "hip" kids in Japan is that anything
famous is out.  They want colleges that no one's heard of and no one
else may have.  Everybody's seen (or has) UCLA, USC, Notre Dame, Harvard,
Stanford .... they're out (okureteru).

What's in are the obscure ones.  Big-8, SEC, ACC, Big East schools
might be a good start, because they're relatively unknown in Japan.

-- 
Yoke Tanaka             Togai InfraLogic, Inc.             "fuzzy"
714-975-8522            5 Vanderbilt
tanaka@til.com          Irvine, California, USA

"Where are you gonna be?  On the moon?"
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
Subject: Re: American-cu Cannabalism
Organization: Integrated International Systems Corp. One Longfellow Place, Suite 3309, Boston, Ma.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:21:10 GMT

wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.MIL (Wm. Douglas Withers -- math  FACULTY <wdw@sma.usna.navy.mil>) writes:

>Dwight's article reminds me of a little puzzle:

>What form of cannibalism is practiced not infrequently in the USA?
>I'm serious here.  `Cannibalism' to be defined as the eating of human flesh
>by humans.  In fact I have had the opportunity to do this but I chose not to.

>If anyone wants the answer, I'll post it in a few days.
>-- 


Biting fingernails....


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From: herb@sybase.com (Herb Lison)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: and now for something completely different
Date: 4 Jan 93 16:01:19 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <1ht6vmINN20j@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cb522@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Cathy Atwood) writes:
>
>Here is a very good book, which is worth reading even if you
>are not interested in Japan.  It is available in paperback now, 
>too:
>The Lady and the Monk, four seasons in Kyoto
>by Pico Iyer
>
>Cathy


Cathy,

Sorry to disagree with you, but I thought this book was dreadful, another
of the "Aren't these Japanese people so exotic" school.  The only book
I've read recently that begins to capture both the complexity and
charm of Japanese society is "The Outnation" by Jonathan Rauch.

Herb Lison
From: Larry.Greenfield@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Orange Road TV series on LD
X-Sender: newtout 0.06 Jan  3 1993
Date: 11 Jan 93  11:00:32

Sorry for the bandwidth guys, but to answer the Orange Road TV episodes
question... well, I got mine from Japan (the 12 episode LDs), but in the US,
try Nikaku Animart (408-971-2822).  If you want to try this, you can try a
place called Music Market in Costa Mesa, Ca. (call 714-555-1212 which is Costa 
Mesa information, and ask for Music market in Costa Mesa). They also have a
store called (same company) "The Record Trader" in Reseda, Ca (call
1-818-555-1212 to get their number). I'm not sure if they mail order or not.
It's NOT a Japanese-anime store, however, they do stock KOR LDs. A friend of
mine bought out all the KOR episode discs at the Orange County store (1-12)
because they were the cheapest place to find them ($69 each instead of $79 or 
$83 like I've seen elsewhere). However, the Reseda store should have them in, 
yet I don't know if they mailorder. Please call. Hope this helps 
I don't work for any of the stores, just a satisfied customer of both
:::::Larry:::::

--- Maximus 2.01wb
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: jturley@netcom.com (Jim Turley)
Subject: Re: Offered: GIFs of Naked Rie Miyazawa
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 02:14:53 GMT

Chill out.  Rie chan is definately current events, world wide.  Just look
at *any* Japanese newspaper, mag, tv show, evening news, morning news....
get with it.       

So you think that her recent book Santa Fe is porn?  Dont inject your 
warped Western morals here.
From: dcroz@twics.co.jp (DAVID CROSSLIN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Brainwashed
Date: 11 Jan 93 18:23:45 GMT
Organization: TWICS, Tokyo, Japan

=}hardly deserves an answer. . .

     Well, sorry if you're offended by sarcasm.  It's one of my bad habits.
But you didn't answer my question about total leisure over a 30-year life span
anss (as) opposed to a 70-year life.  And, while I enjoy the activities you
list, with the exception of religious activities, I have to think there are
other thingsthat the hunter-gatherers are poorer for lacking.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: jmfuchs@unix.amherst.edu (jesse fuchs)
Subject: Re: First Love
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:26:47 GMT

Rikiya Asano (ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:
> Mr. Jesse Fuchs(deep combination of names) writes,
	Huh? Jesse is Biblical. Fuchs is Austrian - means "Fox." Mr. means I'm
a guy. What these three things have in common, I have no clue.
> 
> .
> 
>          	Boy, oh boy, oh boy. It is not certain, but pretty darn likely, that 
> >our naive buddy Riki thought that a bong (a device used for the smoking of
> >pot, and ranked by me as being directly behind the wheel and the portable 
> >rolling machine in measuring the worth of human civilization.) Being a 
> >resident counselor here at lovely Amherst College, I have ran into more than 
> >one freshman who made the same mistake, with hilarious results. Poor Riki...
> 
> This was not intended to be a synthetic "high' story. This  was not an
> event where drug use it popular or the thing to do. As a matter of fact
> drugs play a very low-keyed part in this. But, it's impact was nasty. I
> now count it as my responsive ability to get her off of crack. It would
> stain my honor to let this 
> weak "material" to continue to ruin a life in which I considered
> precious. I find it unproductive to get her the old "this or me"
> ultimatum. I would probably
> lose since her knew him longer. Plus, I don't want her anymore. But, I
> have a plan! But school starts in a couple of days. So, I hope that
> there's time.
	"I've got a plan! And I'm so crazy, it just might work..."
		-paraphrased from numerous episodes of "Scooby Doo"

	I want to hear about this plan! Details, Riki, details!

--

"Where imagination is sucked out of children by a cathode ray nipple
 T.V. is the only wet nurse that would create a cripple
 On television, the drug of a nation
 Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation."
				-Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: henry@trilithon.mpk.ca.us (Henry McGilton)
Subject: Re: Book on Toyota Corp?
Organization: Trilithon Software
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:56:55 GMT

In article <2586@melsun0.mel.go.jp> rvm20@melsun0.mel.go.jp (Prasad Akella)  
writes:
    *  i was once pointed to an "excellent" book discussing the production
    *  techniques that Toyota Corpn used during its rise to fame. I have
    *  since lost the citation. Would anybody be able to provide me with
    *  pointers to that book? name, author(s), isbn, cost?
The book that springs to mind first is ``The Machine that
Changed the World'', by James Womack, Daniel Jones, and Daniel
Roos, published by Harper Perennial.  ISBN  0-06-097417-6.  It
says a lot about Toyota.  Costs eleven simoleons.

	........  Henry