HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: william@cs.arizona.edu (William (Dragon) Hertling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Dyson Sphere (spoilers)
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:00:41 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Oct16.171408.13507@linus.mitre.org> bwise@hemlock.mitre.org (Barry Wise) writes:
>In article <2ADE306D.7009@news.service.uci.edu> sclancy@orion.oac.uci.edu  
>(Steve Clancy) writes:
>
>> The dyson sphere was supposed to have been made or "carbon
>> neutronium."  Now I'm not exactly sure what that is chemically, but it
>> sounds very dense to me.  Remember that the Enterprise detected an
>> intense "gravity well" at the beginning. Perhaps the material of the
>> sphere is dense enough to provide a natural gravity for the
>> inhabitants on the inside surface.
>>  
>Sorry, doesn't work that way. The gravitational force anywhere within a  
>spherical shell is zero. The contributin from the area below you is cancelled  
>out by the area above you. Its not intuitive but it's one of the calculations  
>you go through is freshman physics.

How about a combination of ideas: The shell is spinning, and thus the
centrifugal force keeps the inhabitants on the inside plastered to the shell,
with no normal gravitation effects, since they are cancelled out by the
rest of the shell. The ship on the outside was attracted by the
gravity, and this gravity exceeds the centrifugal force.

So it would be like this. The gravity provided by the density of the
shell is roughly 2 times earth gravity. The centrifugal force is roughly
equal to earth gravity. someone on the inside would not feel the gravity,
but would feel the centrifugal force, so they have a mass equal to their
mass on earth. Someone on the outside experiences twice the gravity,
but this is halved by the centrifugal force, so again, their mass is
equal to their mass on earth.

william@cs.arizona.edu

	-	D	R	A	G	O	N	-
From: dsimon@infomrix.com (Don Simon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Will we have to pay to see Star Trek?
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:03:12 GMT
Reply-To: dsimon@informix.com
Organization: Noids for Nimrods


I know that in the Denver area, the Sci-Fi channels is considered
premium (ie you pay extra above basic cable), while in Kansas City,
(Johnson County) it is part of standard cable.


don simon
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: spoilereview: "realm
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:44:32 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.



>More than Barclay, though, this episode bothered me because of the idiotic
>"worm in the transporter" mystery. First off, why the hell did the people
>look like worms? No reason other than to keep it a mystery. Please.

Look at the "worms" closely.  Ignore the *shape*, just look at
the surface texture/color.  It looks a lot like human skin.
Now assume the transporter beam is the equivalent of a very
distorting lens.  When two people transport simultaneously,
do they appear distorted to each other?  Perhaps, but transporting
doesn' usually take as long as it did in this case.  Also remember
that every time Barclay used the transporter, it was alone, so he
wouldn't be aware of any normal distortion that occured when another
person was in the beam.
From: DonD@cup.portal.com (Don Robert DeCosta)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Realm Of Fear: Set Up?
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 21:25:30 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <uplink.718316334@cwis> <1aqainINN2j3@agate.berkeley.edu>

>I suppose these might be spoilers




















>
>Could someone please explain to me why the people stuck in
>the transporter looked like those sand worms from Dune, and
>how it was so easy and "should've known that" obvious to see
>the connection afterwards?  To me, it still makes no sense.
>

I think "Realm Of Fear" purely exists to create the precident upon which 
"Relics" will rely.  "Realm Of Fear" provided the situation in which
personnel could be held in a Transporter Buffer for longer than 30 seconds.

Don DeCosta           |The nice thing about sanity is|  VM/Nomad2
DonD@cup.portal.com   |you can lose it more than once|  Amiga/Imagine
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From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Subject: Re: Let's put this on a FAQL (Re: O'Brien's Rank)
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:10:07 GMT

>In article <07OCT92.21431825.0064@VM1.MCGILL.CA> CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXMP) writes:

>>Ensign Junior Grade      One hollow gold pip

In article <BvtDL3.2nI@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes:
>As far as we know, there's no such thing.  There isn't in the real Navy,
>which S'Fleet gets its ranks from, and nothing has been said _on-air_
>that would lead us to believe otherwise.

Actually, we don't know that Starfleet takes its ranks from the "real
Navy", either in a "real world" sense (i.e., how Paramount determines
the ranks), or in a "Star Trek universe" sense (Star Fleet determines
ranks from the historical ranks of the "real Navy").  There were
commodores in the ST Classic Starfleet and in the 1960s; we have seen
no commodores in the TNG Starfleet and that name for the rank in our
time was abolished by now.  All we know is that the Starfleet ranks
resemble the ranks of the US Navy.  Who *knows* if there is an Ensign
Junior Grade or not?

>>OK, so the rank O'Brien had in "The Realm of Fear" was that of Ensign
>>(either full of JG) whether the pip was solid or not.  Fine.  But
>>wasn't O'Brien a Lieutenant in earlier episodes?

>No.  Then, now, and always, Chief Petty Officer.

Up until "Realm of Fear", I always thought that O'Brien was a
Lieutenant, Worf's stepfather's exclamation notwithstanding.  I now
think he is a Chief Petty Officer, and for the last two-three years
Colm Meany was in the wrong costume.

Of course, we still have no idea what the little circles (hollow and
filled-in) actually *mean*.  Who knows if they indicate rank or not?

-- 
'Verily, there be no leader as wise as the Vision!'
                         Windsor Morgan (wmorgan@stsci.edu OR NHT@PSUVM.BITNET)
                         Space Telescope Science Institute
                         Baltimore, MD   21218
From: rhballan@eos.ncsu.edu (ROBERT HAMI BALLANTINE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: "Lay off Worf!"
Date: 11 Oct 92 22:26:31 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos

In article <jgasaway-111092142156@mac20-199.ncsa.uiuc.edu> jgasaway@ncsa.uiuc.edu (James Gasaway) writes:
>Man Of The People *baby spoiler*
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>In article <1992Oct10.222827.15371@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>,
>kevin@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Kevin Ernst Duckworth) wrote:
>
>(stuff deleted)
>
>> Lay off Worf!  It wasn't exactly like he should be carrying a phaser into
>> a touchy situation!  What choice did he have but to just stand there?
>> Start a fist fight?  Challenge every one in the room to a game of Klingon
>> "kill the man with the phaser"?  There was no way he could have anticipated 
>> those sneaky guards coming behind him.  He did exactly what Picard would
>> have wanted him to do... suggesting to me that he is learning alot about 
>> diplomacy in general and gearing up for a ship of his own... {{8<)|:
>
>I can't let Worf off the hook that easily (as I stated in an earlier post).
> Granted, he reacted correctly once the guards "got" him.  But to suggest
>there was no way he could've anticipated someone coming up behind him is
>IMHO ridiculous.  Worf is responsible for Picard's safety.  It's his *job*
>to anticipate -- to put himself in a position where he can act most
>efficiently.  Obviously, he can't be ready for *everything*, but he most
>definitely should know who's around him when he knows he's in a potentially
>hostile situation.  Hey Worf!  How about putting your back to the wall? 
>I'll say it again -- Give Worf remedial training.
>
>Plot device is a required writer's tool, but it sure makes supposedly
>competent characters look stupid.
>
>
>James 
>jgasaway@ncsa.uiuc.edu
>Univ of Illinois @ Urbana/Champaign
I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but it seems
like Worf is always screwing up his assignments.  Hell, Wesley
would be a better security chief.


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From: Omega.Man@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Omega Man)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: TIME'S ARROW ][
Date: 1 Oct 92 18:38:45 GMT

...Tim, could you resend your spolier review via e-mail? It never arrived
at this site.

Thanks.

                                                        OM
From: v070p6nd@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Anthos)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Pickard and Guinan TAI/TAII
Date: 9 Oct 92 02:46:00 GMT
Organization: SUNY at Beefalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <01GPQR0TSQ2C0007SV@phillip.edu.au>, T9214504@phillip.edu.au writes...
> 
> 
>  Even though I have not seen TAII, but I have seen TAI on tape(*^*),
>  and I have gatheed enough info on what happens, (spoilers don't worry me),
>  why could Picard not have given Guinan some helpful info about The Borg,
>  as they/it still hadn't destroyed her people. 
>    She refered to Data in TAI, about her father 'sending Data' (thus I 
>  assume from her home world), and the time frame when Q introduces the 
>  Borg to Picard etc, (Was that episode called 'Q Who'???? - can't remember)
>  Guinan states that The Borg destroyed her people, and scatted them all over th  the universe..........just a thought......

I assumed that her home world was already destroyed, since I think the reference
to her world being destroyed dates to before TAI/II

> 
>  *^* - Here in Australia we are about 3 seasons behind!!! I suppose until
>        the tapes sink 'Downunder', then we only get to see them.
>        Luckily I have a friend who buys them and sends them in from the 
>        United Kingdom - England, and various other places.
> 
>   Konrads Samulis. t9214504@pitvax.edu.au
Anthos, the Grey Knight, High Preist of Minikar, God of Chaos, Horrible Puns,
                                                  and Extremely Bad Form
================================================================================
Across time and space/ The grey knight cometh/ With dragons to rape/
Madiens to slay/ Castles to sack/ Towns to pillage/ Quarterbacks to plunder

Oh, how I am confused!
===========I wish this was a .sig so I wouldn't have to type all this===========
From: glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gordon Locke  )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Time's Arrow - Enterprise time travel?
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:14:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: morgan.1992Oct13.181443.19113
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland

In article <1992Oct10.033359.26811@sarah.albany.edu> ys3359@thor.albany.edu (Yazmasterj) writes:
>
>I remember a ST:TNG episode where Riker and Picard were talking
>about time travel in Picard's ready room.  Riker referred to time warp
>and the slingshot method as "theoretical" instead of as an historical
>fact.  Then again they referred to Kirk in "The Naked Now" as some captain
>of an earlier Enterprise.  I suspect they have actually been trying to
>erase or retcon out a lot of early Trek stuff.  
>
>Yasmin
>
	Or maybe the slingshot method is classified "Top Secret" by
Starfleet in the 24th Century ...  Referring to Cpt. Kirk as just
another Joe Blow captain might be a way of making up for the fact that
he was _so great!_ in most of the TOS shows / books. You know, youngest
cpt. in the fleet, first cpt. to bring his entire ship back in one piece
after a five-year mission, etc.
	I am in no way flaming the original (and overall better, IMHO)
series.  Far be it from me! =^]

	- Gord, a.k.a. glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori)
Subject: Re: Dread of Scotty Episode
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:01:33 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.214128.857@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu> jfeldhouse@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu (Jim Feldhouse) writes:
>Just a little preliminary survey.
>How many here get the feeling that this
>episode where Scotty returns is not going
>to be to good?

Count one.

At least they kept it to one hour this time.

>That means that 3 out of the 1st 4 episodes
>are not very good 

Personally, I'd call it 0 for 4.


>AND we haven't even gotten to
>the inevitable child oriented shows.

Unless you count Barclay.


>I fear for the worst.
From: alvinc@rigel.cs.pdx.edu (Creeping Death)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Distress Call!
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:15:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: pdxgate.6224

Romulan Ranks Revisited:

Federation			Romulan
============================================================
Admiral				Primus
Captain				Commander
Commander			Subcommander
Lieutenant Commander		Antecenturion
Lieutenant			Centurion
Ensign				Subcenturion

* Note:  In Rihannsu, the proper form of address for a commanding officer
  is khre'Riov, or riov for short.

Romulan titles are fashioned after Roman-style titles and concepts.  Although
culturally, the languages are, of course, quite different.  The very word
Romulan is of Federation devising.

A Federation person would call "the Romulan homeworlds, Romulus and Remus".
A Romulan person would call "the Rihannsu homeworlds, ch'Rihan and ch'Havran".

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From: ffhoust@eos.ncsu.edu (FORREST FRANCI HOUSTON)
Subject: SPOILER Re: Blowing up the Borg (was Re: Mistake in Borg episode)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 00:01:07 GMT

In article <92Oct11.223538.30948@acs.ucalgary.ca>, jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca (Joshua Bell) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct8.131240.11209@urbana.mcd.mot.com> mscott@urbana.mcd.mot.com writes:
|> >I just thought of a way that they could've blown up the Borg ship! Since
|> >the Enterprise crew were allowed to beam aboard the Borg ship, why couldn't
|> >they have beamed a few photon torpedoes on-board the the Borg ship, & then
|> >blown it up from the inside? I'm sure someone will think of a reason why 
|> >this wouldn't work, but I say it would have done it!
|> 
|> Antimatter doesn't transport well in large quantities, and this
|> is what photon torpedoes use to cause damage.
|> 
|> Joshua














But wait,
Isn't this how Scotty handled the Kobiashi Maru simulation?  I thought
he transported photon torpedoes to the locations where the Klingon
shields over lapped and therefore were at their weakest.
From: RICK@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Rick Thibeault, UMPI)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: O'Brien's Rank [THE FINAL ANSWER]
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:10:01 GMT
 <1992Oct8.093639.2890@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
 <9210112204.AA02063@hrt216.brooks.af.mil>
 <anton_sanderfoot-111092181810@lazarow2.life.uiuc.edu>
 <9210120232.AA02166@hrt216.brooks.af.mil>
Organization: University of Maine System


QVC had a sheet of Trading cards for sale which had O'Brien's rank listed
as Lt.  So the holow pip is probably a continutity error.
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From: rsvanc00@mik.uky.edu (Randolph S. Vance)
Subject: Re: Stupid question about Peter David
    <66978@cup.portal.com><1992Oct1.121924.13737@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU><19    
    92Oct1.161249.1919@gdr.bath.ac.uk>     
    <67055@cup.portal.com><ivy.718250532@camelot>     
    <92278.232425JAP8@psuvm.psu.edu> <67186@cup.portal.com>   
    <jhitch.718514449@crash.cts.com> <67352@cup.portal.com>
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:15:55 GMT

In <67352@cup.portal.com> Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:

>"Orgasm works also."  (I tried this once.  It works.)"

Why, that sounds like something Brother Jed Smock or
Brother Jim Giles would insult you with in the free speech
area of your campuses Student Center. (Yes, U of K has been
host to the Brother Jed/Jim Hellfire tour)

And for some strange reason, this nn Unix job got numbered
666. Weird, eh? You figure it out. I'll be leafing through
the 13th chapter of Revelations......:*)

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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: reviews
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:19:24 EST

 -=> On 10-15-92  09:48, Gary L. Schroeder babbled to All saying: <=-

 >Anyways, my question is should I add to the unending list of no-namer
 >episode-reviewers who compete against such real Net-Trek-Gods as Lynch
 >and Kanorami?

 GLS> I had some Kanorami for dinner just the other night.  It wasn't as
 GLS> tasty as the fresh stuff, but it was still pretty good.

 GLS> Oh.....wait a minute.  Did you mean Kanamori?  Sorry.

Thank you for correcting me.  I KNEW that Kanorami just DIDN'T sound
right!  :-)


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From: ruzon@aludra.usc.edu (The Ruz-master)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: No more "Opinionated Comments"
Date: 13 Oct 1992 16:40:26 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu
Summary: Alas, poor Yorick!  I knew him well, Horatio.
Keywords: The irony of it all

In article <1992Oct13.145646.3430@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes:
>Because of the low quality of the recent episodes and the even lower
>quality of the *promisings* of upcoming episodes, I am dropping
>ST:TNG from my viewing schedule effective immediately. I will not be 
>reviewing (or watching) "Relics", nor will there be any further episode 
>reviews from this site.

It is, I believe, a sad day for this newsgroup.  When I first started reading
this newsgroup (actually, it was just r.a.s. in those days), I used to be really
bothered by the Opinionated Comments because I couldn't figure out why anyone
would bother to watch Star Trek and post to this newsgroup if he didn't like
it.

Since that time, however, and especially since most of the other reviewers from
that era are either gone or reviewing late into the week, there has been no
focal point to the discussion of the current episode during the week.  I never
realized how much this group owed to Atsushi, Lynch, Rawdon, Tang, Shabang,
Snell, et. al. until I was forced to read it without them.

And as far as the Opinionated Comments went, I hated most of the opinions
expressed, but at least I had something to argue about.  Star Trek represents
high ideals in my opinion, but most of the people on the net either aren't
capable of expressing insights at that level or don't have the time (I fall
into the latter category.).

I'd never thought I'd say this, but I will sorely miss Atsushi and his
Opinionated Comments.  What an apt title.


  


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From: cho@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Riker's lust for the Enterprise
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:47:34 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <1992Oct6.154031.20243@ncsu.edu>, gcpahren@eos.ncsu.edu (GREGORY CHARLES PAHREN) writes:
> 
> I just saw a rerun episode of "The Best of Both Worlds" last night and
> had an interesting thought.  In that episode and at least one other I
> can think of off hand, Riker turns down his own command to remain first
> officer on the Enterprise.  
> ....omitted section... 
> My thought is this.  What Riker really wants is command of the Enterprise.
> And that means Picard has to die for that to happen.  So Riker is 
> actually trying to kill Picard himself in a manner that he could get
> away with.  (Sounds like he's got some Klingon blood in him).  
> 
> Does anyone else have any thoughts on this?
> -Greg
Hi,
Riker is an odd guy.  I think in he can manage people to a degree, but
he always looks to Picard first.  He has always bothered me.  I'm not
sure why I dislike him so much, but he's really not good in a true
command position.  I don't think he's all that sharp, for one thing.
And I don't think he has the shrewdness to go out and kill Picard just
so he can gain control of the E. He's not really a devious person.
He does make rash decisions, based on his own narrow perceptions
of events.  One prime example is 'Darmok', where Jean Luc really shines
through an impossible situation, and Riker, in his usual style, really
blows it.  I don't think he was trying to kill Picard then either, I
just don't think he has the smarts to figure things out well.  Killing
off someone is a cop out, but for Riker, maybe it's all he can reason out.
Shoot now, think later.
He is a lusty guy, but I think he's one of those who can see only a 
small area around him.  He doesn't see the whole picture, and also
doesn't have enough breadth and broad-based thinking to make the
better command decisions.  His better moments are one on one with
people, instead of commanding large groups.  I really dislike the
tone of his voice when he's commanding Geordi or Data...he acts like
such a snob.  Picard has a smoother way, at least, so you don't feel
so offended by it.
He does get along well with women...he is actually nice to watch with 
Troi, or Minuet, etc.  Then he doesn't come across so irritatingly.
These were just my thoughts.  Anyone else care to comment?
-Pamela Cho-
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: Eric Schlene <eschlene@indiana.edu>
Subject: man of the people - better ending *spoilers*
Organization: indiana university
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:36:43 GMT

IMHO, the finale of MOTP was horrible. This guy was a total slime. In
Worf terms, "He had no honor." To let him off the hook via a quick death
was a sin. The plot should have worked in a side story that would have
him, after being found out, returned to his home world in disgrace,
living out his remaining days ostracized, ridiculed, and horribly
disfigured. All of which, of course, dealt by his own lust for power and
greed.

Maybe I'm just really angry because it's an election year and, after all,
that was the point of this episode.