HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: USCLPAO@NCTAMSLANT.NAVY.MIL ("USCINCLANT PAO")
Newsgroups: soc.veterans
Subject: Navy to Commission Annapolis (SSN-760)
Date: 11 Apr 92 04:12:00 GMT

The following Memorandum for Correspondents was released on
Friday, 10 April, 1992 by the Department of Defense in
Washington, DC. 

NAVY TO COMMISSION SUBMARINE ANNAPOLIS (SSN-760) 
 
    The Department of the Navy will commission the
nuclear-powered attack submarine Annapolis (SSN-760) at 11:00
am., Saturday, April 11, 1992, at General Dynamics Electric Boat
Division, Groton, Conn. 
 
    VADM Bernard M. Kauderer, USN (Ret.), will be the ceremony's
principal speaker. Mrs. Myra Kauderer, wife of the principal
speaker, is the ship's sponsor. 
 
    Annapolis (SSN-760) honors the capital city of Maryland.  The
first Annapolis, a patrol gun boat (PG-10), served in Cuban
waters during the Spanish-American War.  During World War II, the
name Annapolis was assigned to a frigate (PF-15), which served as
a convoy escort.  The third Annapolis, a communications ship
(AGMR-2), received eight battle stars for service in the Vietnam
War, and three battle stars for World War II service as USS
Gilbert Islands (CVE-107). 
 
    Annapolis, an improved version, will be the 49th of 62
submarines to be built from the Los Angeles nuclear-powered
attack class.  The improved submarines have a hardened sail for
surfacing during Arctic missions as well as retractable bow
planes.  Annapolis' mission will be to track and destroy enemy
ships, primarily submarines, in order to prohibit the employment
of such forces against U.S. or allied ships.  Annapolis is 360
feet in length, has a beam of 33 feet and, upon completion, will
displace approximately 6,900 tons submerged.
From: JHLQC@CUNYVM.BITNET
Newsgroups: soc.veterans
Subject: Re: US Navy Life Insurance
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:35:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: CUNYVM.92098.143545JHLQC
 <1992Apr7.135652.26535@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center


In article <1992Apr7.135652.26535@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>,
fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson) says:
>
>I tried to send this normally email and it bounced
>so I am posting it. A FAQ for people going into service
>might be a nice thing.

I seem to recall a soc.veterans FAQ a while back, with info about services,
vet news, etc... does anyone have a copy of this, or recall same?  Mr. Jewell?

>I would check with the records bureau in St Louis Mo.
>Thats where all the old stuff is kept, dont be too
>dissapointed though, they had a big fire there a few
>years ago and lost alot of records. When you get discharged
>thats where yours will go.

Would you happen to have an address/phone number for this bureau?  It would
be most appreciated.

>EX: If your grandfather kept his records you would not be
>asking the above question !!.

I think he does have the records somewhere, but the generation above me lost
them. ;-)

>IF you run into a bubblehead (Dolphins on chest) ask him what
>type & brand of baffle cleaner they use nowadays.
>

I assume you mean a sub volunteer? :-)  I'll be on a sub eventually, so I'll
let you know... ;-)  Thanks!

>Richard Pierson E06584 vnet: [908] 699-6063
>Internet: fist@iscp.belcore.com,|| UUNET:uunet!bcr!fist

Joseph Halloran
jhlqc@cunyvm.cuny.edu
From: ae299@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jack L. Wallace)
Newsgroups: soc.veterans
Subject: Re: WHY DO THEY DO IT!!!!
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:48:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr13.184816.11384
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


My OlderWoman, when she was young, heard that in the military everything
was square, squared, etc.  She sent me off to my first inspection after
we were married with my collars reading SU (upside down) and each leg
of my pants, heavily starched and ironed with 4 creases...Yes, square.

Scott Field, Ill. circa 1953

Jack Wallace
--
From: opnsgreg@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Gregory J. Schaffer)
Newsgroups: soc.veterans
Subject: Just curious
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:48:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41



I'm just curious, was anyone on this board assigned to the 1650 TAWP
during Desert Storm?  

Greg
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 05:03:24 EDT
From: <JHLQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: soc.veterans
Subject: Re: US Navy Life Insurance
 <1992Apr7.135652.26535@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
 <92098.143545JHLQC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <44324@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>

In article <44324@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, jewell@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Larry
Jewell) says:
>>
>I'm afraid I haven't kept it up to date, but if there's interest, I'll repost
>the last version of the FAQ.  (I'm expanding my job into 10 countries, plus
>I own WWII-L, so I had to shave some time somewhere.)

If you could please repost the last version of the FAQ, I'd really appreciate
it, esp. as I won't be able to get it anytime after Monday. :)  The address
of the St. Louis records center alone makes it worthwhile to me.  Thank you
in advance.

 #Larry W. Jewell (ex-USN)  JEWELL@PURCCMACE   jewell@mace.cc.purdue.edu     #
>#"Sunday's horoscope is noteworthy because of its strange, sudden and wholly#
>#unpredictable and inexplicable occurrences, affecting all phases of life." #
>#--"Your Horoscope," L.A. Evening Herald Express, Saturday, Dec. 6, 1941.   #

Joseph Halloran
From: lush@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Gregory B Lush)
Newsgroups: soc.veterans
Subject: Re: release 10 us pows
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:36:16 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

From: rah@rampart.enet.dec.com (Robert Holt)
Newsgroups: soc.veterans
Subject: Re: release 10 us pows


?  >>There are no live American POWs in SEA.  
?  >>**************  BULLSHIT  *****************************
?  
?  >Dave
?  >USNR 1959-1961
?  >USAF 1961-1965
?  
?  Oh? 
?  
?  You have proof then?
?  
?  C'mom, lets see it..
?  /*-------------------------------------------------------+
?  | Robert Holt - Digital Equipment Corp - Palo Alto, CA. 

If you want to learn more about POW/MIAs, read

"An Examinatioin of US Policy Toward POW/MIAs"

By the US Senate Committee on Foreign Relations Republican Staff
Thursday, May 13, 1991
(The date of the publication is important.)

It is available without cost from Sen. Richard Lugar (202) 224-4814

The report includes the now-famous "Peck Letter."

The report shows the pattern of Communist nations to keep
POWs going back to the AEF of WW I.  The estimates of
Americans held by Russia after WW II go as high as 20,000.
20,000!!!  The Soviets held them as blackmail to get
$6 Billion in food credits and/or recognition of their
puppet satellites, Poland, etc.  This, at a time when we
were FORCEFULLY repatriating Russian citizens despite the
fact that our government KNEW they would be killed upon return
to Russia.  Many of these men committed suicide rather than be
returned.

(Makes me wonder what blackmail Russia is currently using against
us to get Bush to give them the $6 Billion-plus in credits that
he has given the Russians--but that is another discussion.)

The report shows that the government has hidden and ignored
live-sightings reports without investigation, and that the
people charged with identifying returned remains were not in
any way qualified to do so and that their methods do not conform
with any known/accepted methods of posthumous indentification.

The report shows that there is clearly an intent to debunk most
evidence without proper investigation.

If you care about these men and our country, you should obtain
and read this report.  It will not cost you anything and it
is very important.

Greg (lush@ecn.purdue.edu)
From: jewell@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Larry Jewell)
Newsgroups: soc.veterans
Subject: Re: listserv access
Keywords: listserver veterans
Date: 16 Apr 92 09:46:57 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1297@rwja.umdnj.edu> ratzan@rwja.umdnj.edu (Lee Ratzan) writes:
>
>A colleague wishes to become involved in the type of news
>cited in this newsgroup but does not have Usenet access.
>Is there a listserver or electronic mailing list which
>deals with veteran issues to which he may subscribe?
>
>Please send responses to ratzan@umdnj.edu   (not to this group)
>
>Thank you,
>
>Lee Ratzan
>University of Medicine and Dentistry of NJ

Since other readers might find this list of some interest, I'll post and mail
it to you.

Navy News: (Weekly)
usclpao@nctamslant.navy.mil

Air Force News:
bergman@afnews.af.mil (let me know if this bounces, and I'll send another add.)
(CM/Sgt Bergman also relays other services' newsletters on request.)

vwar-l (Vietnam Oral History Project)
listserv@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu
Send mail with no (or any subject)
and body of:
sub vwar-l your.name@your.net.address Your Name

wwii-l (World War II discussion list)
Send mail with no (or any subject)
and body of:
sub wwii-l your.name@your.net.address Your Name

Sci.Military Digest
military-request@att.att.com

50 YEARS AGO TODAY
kb2ear@kb2ear.ampr.org

(Corrections or additions invited and requested.)

Larry J
-- 
#Larry W. Jewell (ex-USN)  JEWELL@PURCCMACE   jewell@mace.cc.purdue.edu     # 
#"Sunday's horoscope is noteworthy because of its strange, sudden and wholly#
#unpredictable and inexplicable occurrences, affecting all phases of life." #
#--"Your Horoscope," L.A. Evening Herald Express, Saturday, Dec. 6, 1941.   #
From: ratzan@rwja.umdnj.edu (Lee Ratzan)
Newsgroups: soc.veterans
Subject: listserv access
Summary: listserver access
Keywords: listserver veterans
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:00:36 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, Piscataway NJ


A colleague wishes to become involved in the type of news
cited in this newsgroup but does not have Usenet access.
Is there a listserver or electronic mailing list which
deals with veteran issues to which he may subscribe?

Please send responses to ratzan@umdnj.edu   (not to this group)


Thank you,

Lee Ratzan
University of Medicine and Dentistry of NJ
From: jewell@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Larry Jewell)
Newsgroups: soc.veterans
Subject: USN 8-14 APR, '42
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:12:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.44349

Repost from wwii-l:

1942:
  
Apr  8,  Submarine SEADRAGON (SS-194) delivers food to Corregidor, P.I., and
         evacuates certain military personnel.
         Hydrographic Office and Naval Observatory are transferred from the
         Bureau of Navigation to the Office of the Chief of Naval Operations.
            United States naval vessels sunk:
               Minesweeper BITTERN (AM-36), damaged 10 December 1941,
                  Cavite, P.I., sunk by United States forces.
               Tug NAPA (AT-32), by scuttling, Philippine Islands area,
                  14*25'N., 120*30'E.

Apr  9,  United States-Phillipine forces on Bataan, P.I., surrender to 
         the Japanese.
            United States vessel lost:
               PT-34, by horizontal bomber, Philippine Islands area;
                  beached and abandoned, 10*16'N., 123*52'E.

Apr 10,  Pacific Fleet is reorganized into type commands: Battleships
         (Rear Adm. W. S. Anderson); Aircraft Carriers (Vice Adm.
         W. F. Halsey); Cruisers (Rear Adm. F. J. Fletcher); Destroyers
         (Rear Adm. R. A. Theobald); Service Force (Vice Adm. W. L.
         Calhoun); Amphibious Force (Vice Adm. W. Brown);
         Submarine Force (Rear Adm. T. Withers); and Patrol Wings
         (Rear Adm. J. S. McCain).
         Japanese land on Cebu, P.I.
            United States naval vessels sunk:
               Submarine tender CANOPUS (AS-9), by scuttling, of Mari-
                  veles Bay, P.I.
               Minesweeper FINCH (AM-9), by horizontal bomber, Philip-
                  pine Islands area, 14*22'N., 120*35'E.

Apr 12,     United States vessel sunk:
               PT-35, by scuttling, Philippine Islands area, 10*18'N.,
                  123*54'E.

Apr 14,  German submarine sunk:
            U-85, by destroyer ROPER (DD-147), off Virginia, 35*55'N.,
               75*13'W.


United States Naval Chronology, World War II; U.S. GPO, Washington, 1955
-- 
#Larry W. Jewell (ex-USN)  JEWELL@PURCCMACE   jewell@mace.cc.purdue.edu     # 
#"Sunday's horoscope is noteworthy because of its strange, sudden and wholly#
#unpredictable and inexplicable occurrences, affecting all phases of life." #
#--"Your Horoscope," L.A. Evening Herald Express, Saturday, Dec. 6, 1941.   #
From: USCLPAO@NCTAMSLANT.NAVY.MIL ("USCINCLANT PAO")
Newsgroups: soc.veterans
Subject: Navy to Christen Cape St. George (CG-71)
Date: 11 Apr 92 15:55:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucbvax.9204111504.AA10956

The following Memorandum for Correspondents was released on
Friday, 10 April, 1992 by the Department of Defense in
Washington, DC. 
 
NAVY TO CHRISTEN CAPE ST. GEORGE (CG-7l) 
 
    The Department of the Navy has set the christening of the
guided missile cruiser Cape St. George (CG-71) for 11:00 a.m.,
Saturday, April 11, 1992, at Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula,
Mississippi. 
 
    Representative Gene Taylor, (D-MS), will be the ceremony's
principal speaker.  Mrs. Doree Hekman, wife of VADM Peter M.
Hekman, USN (Ret.), is the ship's sponsor. 
 
    Cape St. George (CG71) commemorates the battle fought off the
island of New Ireland, in the Bismarck Archipelago, on 5 November
1943 between Captain (later Admiral) Arleigh Burke's forces of
five destroyers and five Japanese destroyers. Three enemy ships
were sunk, and one damaged, without damage to any of Burke's
squadron.  No other ships have borne this name. 
 
    Cape St. George is the 25th of 27 Ticonderoga class cruisers
to be built. The Ticonderoga class is designed to provide the
primary anti-air warfare protection for the Navy's battle forces.
Equipped with the Aegis combat system, the ship will be able to
operate in all warfare mission areas to detect, track and destroy
enemy aircraft, missiles, submarines and surface ships.  The
Aegis system, comprising radars, computers and weapons, 15
designed to function effectively in all weather and hostile
countermeasure environments. 
  
    The ship will be equipped to carry standard surface-to-air
and Tomahawk missiles launched from fore and aft vertical
launching systems; two fully automated, radar-controlled Phalanx
anti-air weapon systems; Harpoon surface- to-surface missiles;
two five-inch guns; electronic warfare systems and two Light
Airborne Multi-Purpose System (LAMPS) helicopters. 
 
    Cape St. George is 567 ft. in length, has a beam of 55 ft.
and, upon completion, will displace approximately 9,500 tons
fully loaded.
From: "nigel allen" <nigel.allen@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: soc.veterans
Subject: homeless veterans
Date: 10 Apr 92 03:36:35 EST
Reply-To: "nigel allen" <nigel.allen@canrem.com>
Distribution: soc
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

I thought you might want to see the following press release.



 Homeless Veterans Services to be Focus of Pittsburgh Hearing
 To: City and Assignment desks
 Contact: Jim Holley, Gloria Royce or Pete Dougherty, all of the
          House Veterans Affairs Committee, 202-225-3527

   News Advisory:

   Two of the House of Representatives' most outspoken veterans
advocates have set a Saturday, April 11, Congressional hearing in
Pittsburgh to examine the adequacy of health care and housing
programs for veterans in West Virginia and western Pennsylvania.
   The lawmakers plan to focus on homelessness among veterans which,
in the words of one, "has reached a critical stage."  According to
most estimates, veterans account for at least one-third of the
450,000-750,000 homeless on America's streets and in shelters.  In
Allegheny County, Pa., there are between 1,400 and 1,700 homeless
persons at any given moment.
   Rep. Harley Staggers (D-W.Va.) and Rep. Lane Evans (D-Ill.), both
of whom chair House subcommittees which deal with veterans' issues,
have scheduled the hearing at 8:30 a.m. in the auditorium of the
Pittsburgh VA Medical Center on Highland Drive.  VA officials, local
veterans leaders and representatives of area homeless assistance
efforts have been invited to present testimony and respond to
questions.
   "Homelessness now affects every region and every type of community
-- downtowns, suburbs and rural areas.  It has many faces: families
with children, newly unemployed, victims of family break-up and
working poor, as well as those individuals suffering from chronic
mental illness and substance abuse," said Staggers, chairman of the
Veterans' Affairs Subcommittee on Housing and Memorial Affairs.  "We
want to explore what is being undertaken and what is needed to assist
these groups, from initial outreach, to shelter and rehabilitation
programs and followup initiatives.  It is a problem that will not go
away without substantial action by the federal government."
 -0-
 /U.S. Newswire  202-347-2770/
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario/Detroit, MI
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: jodar@girtab.usc.edu (Nicholas Jodar)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: From Israel Net....
Summary: What's Goin' On....
Keywords: Israel Net
Date: 10 Apr 92 07:59:29 GMT
Reply-To: jodar@girtab.usc.edu (Nicholas Jodar)
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Originator: gwydion@wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu


Have people heard about this?

------------------------------------------------------------------------

              Attention Israel Line Recipients
 
                  Thursday, April 9, 1992
 
 
Arens: the IDF is Starting a Campaign Against the Hizbullah
Terrorist Organization
 
Today's HA'ARETZ reports that Defense Minister Moshe Arens
yesterday stated that the Israel Defense Forces is starting a
campaign against the "organization of murderers" -- the Hizbullah.
In response to a reporter's question on what could be done against
this organization that hasn't already been done, Arens said, "Wait
and see." Defense Minister Arens was visiting Israel's northern
border, close to where a terrorist squad operated against an IDF
convoy on Monday afternoon. He said that for over a year now, the
IDF has been confronted with increased activity by the Hizbullah
and other organizations cooperating with it, such as the Islamic
Jihad. During this period, 10 IDF soldiers were killed in South
Lebanon. Arens also visited the 5 IDF soldiers who were injured in
the recent attack and who are now in Rambam Hospital. During the
visit, Arens said that the Hizbullah and the Islamic Jihad have
made it their objective to torpedo the peace talks. However, the
Defense Minister added, Israel is firm in its will not to allow
them to do that.
 
.   .   .   .   .
 
Today's Israel Line was prepared by Gideon Sa'ar and Robert
Socolof.
 
To subscribe to the E-mail version of Israel Line, please send a
request to: listserv@israel.nysernet.org with one and only line:
subscribe israeline "your_full_name"

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NOTE:  I find rape, torture, killing, and delocation abhorrent.
       Moreso if it is being perpetrated by 'muslims'....

-Nick

Oh, Allah!  Give us Wisdom to know right, and strength to act accordingly.
From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: Re: Why Prophet(saw) did not permit Ali`s(raa) second marriage?
Date: 14 Apr 92 05:07:01 GMT
Organization: Carleton University


ekrem@vlsivie.tuwien.ac.at (Ekrem Saban) writes:


>[...]
>      The answer is again simple. There is no comparison between two
>   cases. Let us look briefly at the life of this great woman of Islam.

>   a) She came from the family of Abu-Sufyan, Hind Bin Utbah (who eat the
>   kidney of Hamzah (raa) in the battle of Uhd), her aunt was the wife of

>Just a small correction: she didn't eat his kidney, but tried
>unsuccessfully to eat his lungs.
>--


   In fact, it was his lever. "Hid ul-hunood, akkalat ul-kubood."
"Kubood" is plural of "kabid" which is the lever.
From: glennd@StarConn.com (Glenn Davis)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: Address of Islamic Circle of North America?
Date: 14 Apr 92 07:35:38 GMT
Reply-To: glennd@StarConn.com (Glenn Davis)
Organization: Starnet-Public Access UNIX--Los Altos, CA  415-949-3133
Status: R
Originator: gwydion@wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu


Last month in soc.religion.islam there was a summary of this magazine article:

	Kidawi, A.R.
	"English Translations of the Holy Qur'an: An Annotated Bibliography".
	The Message International.
	March 1992 / Shaban 1412.


I would like to read the entire article, but I do not know the address of
the publisher: The Islamic Circle of North America.
Can anyone help?

Thank you in advance,
Glenn Davis
From: alhaque@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu (Abul Lais M S Haque)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: Re: Quoting from the Quran [or rather are mono and diglycerides halal?]
Date: 14 Apr 92 05:33:09 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK

In article <Apr.10.11.43.41.1992.26734@caip.rutgers.edu> shaik@caip.rutgers.edu (Imtiaz Shaik) writes:
>
>Assalaamualykum
>
>As far as I know mono and diglycerides are derived from animal source.
>Same is the case with Lecithin (spelling?).  If it is not from animal
>source, it will be clearly stated in the ingredient listing that it is
>VEGETABLE MONO AND DIGLYCERIDES, and SOY LECITHIN.  For example, the
>bread sold by 'Maiers' has vegetable mono and diglycerides.  Similarly
>other products, (probably, bakery stuff, cakes, cookies, etc., from
>'nthamans' and some other (jewish?) companies) use soy lecithin and 
>vegetable glycerides.   
>
>And naturally if any thing is derived from swine it is not halal!!
>
>May Allah SWT feed all muslims with HALAL food, so that our prayers
>are accepted.
>
>May be some other brothers and sisters knowledgeable about this issue
>can shed more light.
>
>Wassalam
>Imtiaz Shaik

	I fully agree with you regarding regarding mono and diglycerides
	and Lecithin. And that is the information I got from various
	sources. But a large number of people, in particular the Arabs
	do not care about these ingredients. The response I got from
	them was as follows. The source of Lecithin, for example, may
	be from vagetable or from animal. But you are not sure whether
	it is from vegetable or animal. So according to a hadith you
	consider it vegetable and can eat.

	The same logic goes for the meat of the Christians. Muslims are
	required to eat only those meat whose animal was slaughtered in
	the name of Allah. But according to the Qur'an the food of the
	people of the book is halal for us. Noe there are two theories:
	(i) If you are not sure that the name of Allah was mentioned at
	the time of slaughter then according to a hadith you simply say
	Bismillah and then eat. (ii) The meat of the Christians are
	unconditionally halal for us (as proclaimed by Allah in the
	Qur'an).

	Abul L. Haque