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From: sujan@stein.u.washington.edu (Sujan Punyamurthula)
Subject: So Who will be the No1!
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:49:05 GMT

So much for the discussion of current No.1.
Let us see if u football pundits can predict
the No1 at the end of the season.. ie. the real No1 !

Here is the top ten list from coaches poll.

I don't know the schedule strengths of some( or most).
So can some one please fill the gaps

Poll
CNN AP NY   Team         Current Record     Upsetiers!
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 1  1   1 - Washington          4-0    California, Stanford, Arizona
                                                  
 2  2   4 - Miami               4-0    Penn State,Boston College
                                                
 3  3   2 - Michigan            3-0-1  Michigan State
                                                  
 4  5  13 - Texas A&M           5-0    None :)
                                                  
 5  7  14 - Penn State          5-0    Miami
                                                  
 6  4   3 - Tennessee           5-0   
                                                   ??? ...
 7  6   5 - Alabama             5-0
                                                  
 8  8  16 - Florida State       4-1
                                                  
 9  9  25 - Colorado            5-0
                                                  
10 10  18 - Virginia            5-0
                                               


Go Huskies
sj

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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: OSU Football Season tickets
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:37:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Oct5.133710.29268
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison

In article <1992Oct5.182434.29169@cis.ohio-state.edu> wang-c@boa.cis.ohio-state.edu (Wang-Chien Lee) writes:
>I have a pair of OSU season tickets for sale. The seats are
>located in 9A row 26. If interested, please call 291-4530
>or send mail to wang-c@cis.ohio-state.edu

Gosh, you gave up pretty quickly, didn't you?
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: ds4@soc10.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: FSU v. Miami
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:13:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.230752.4454@beaver.cs.washington.edu>, rcsaito@cs.washington.edu (Richard Saito) writes:

|> I believe you forgot one thing.  If UCLA does go undefeated, won't they have
|> a claim to the MNC as well?

I doubt that, especially after Michigan or Ohio State beats them :)
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: FREE NOTRE DAME TICKETS AVAILABLE!!!!
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 15:51:10 GMT

In article <Marc.A.Echeveste.1-011092091230@129.74.199.128> Marc.A.Echeveste.1@nd.edu (Marc Echeveste) writes:
>In article <vish-300992110519@129.74.37.197>, vish@nd.edu (Vishwamber
>Yelsangikar) wrote:
>
>Geesh, who'd ever fall for that one?  We all know that ND doesn't give
>ANYTHING away for free... especially if it has any connection to football! 
>I swear, the bookstore alone could pay off the Federal Budget Deficit...

Not all that long ago, all Notre Dame students got "free" tickets to
all Notre Dame home football games.  I put "free" in quotes because
most of us, at the time, were convinced that the true price of the tickets
was built into the tuition.  At any rate, you got the tickets whether
you wanted them or not, and there was no separate fee or even acknowledged
fee for them.  They weren't physical tickets - rather, your student ID
got you into the game.  In theory, they compared the photo to the person,
and I believe there was a place where they punched it so you could only
get in once with a given ID.  There was a minor student industry in 
selling the use of your ID to get into the games, though one had to be
careful.  You needed that ID to get your meals at the cafeteria, so if
the person you rented it to didn't get it back to you pretty quickly,
you missed dinner.

For me, the "free" tickets were a good thing.  I went to Notre Dame caring 
not one whit about football, and undoubtedly would not have paid money 
for tickets.  Once they've actually gotten you into the stadium, though, 
it's pretty hard not to start caring.

At any rate, the days of "free" tickets for all students are gone.
If there was a built-in fee, I'm quite certain the tuition didn't drop
by that amount the year the tickets stopped being handed out.

--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
From: sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Freshman QB's....
Date: 7 Oct 92 03:19:24 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

}} In article <1992Oct6.172358.7845@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
}} 
}} When Eric Hunter started at Purdue as a freshman, he came out on fire.  He
}} almost brought back Purdue from a 28-0 deficit to Michigan State, and the
}} next week, he passed for a then-record performance (300-some yards) at
}} Michigan.  He ended up Big-10 Frosh of the year, and had a lot of people's
}} hopes up.  Many scouts had him very high on the list of college QB's.

I believe Hunter is still the only quarterback ever to throw 4 TD
passes against Michigan.

}} Since then, he's pretty much been a disappointment.

Well, given that he's never been allowed to play by the coaching staff
(I mean really play, without having to worry about being yanked every
time a receiver drops a ball), he's done ok.  Colletto has just plain
never given him a chance, and Akers screwed with the offense after
Hunter's freshman year.

sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:
      It's a wise dog that scratches its own fleas. (William Strunk, Jr.)

                  I meant what I said, and said what I meant.
           An elephant's faithful, one hundred percent. (Dr. Seuss)
From: JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Spreads
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:54:25 GMT
Organization: GM Research Labs

I'd appreciate seeing the spreads on the following games if anyone has them:

Florida State @ Miami A&M

Southern California @ Washington

**********************************************************************

"That's why we named you Dim, son."
                              parents of a well known poster to r.s.f.c
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Those fighting Cavaliers.
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:28:09 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

garnto@vaxdad.scri.fsu.edu (Ken Garnto, SCRI, 904/644-4534) wrote:
}
}Have you already given up hope for the 17th?  

No, I think the Braves will have an excellent chance against the
A's in Game One! ;-)

Seriously, Tech is pretty tough at home.  Since the start of the
1989 season the Jackets are 19-2 at home.  They have also won
11 straight league games at home. 

(Of course, none of those games were against Florida State.)

}                                              Look for me, I will be the
}obnoxious FSU guy in the nose-bleed seats ...

Gee, that sure narrows it down! ;-)

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu

    "I may be a scwewy wabbit, but I'm not going to Alcatwaz!"       
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From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: Sorry, Gophers!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 04:11:36 GMT

In article <BvH038.3rC.1@cs.cmu.edu> bnoble+@cs.cmu.edu (Brian Noble) writes:
>
>This isn't the same Colorado known as "The University of California,
>Boulder", because of all the brain-damaged Californians that couldn't
>even get admitted to a respectable Cal State that attend, is it?

No actually it's the smart californians who come to CU because they don't
want to be on shaky ground!

>And what does this have to do with football, anyway?  Other than
>California tends to export lots of good cheerleader material to CU.

Added incentive, perhaps?

>Brian

Njan
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From: tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson)
Subject: Re: MICH: 60 something HOUSTON:7
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 19:32:33 GMT

chyang@engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:

>	I was going to provide a game summary, but I fell asleep by the
>middle of second quarter.  I managed to catch the Michigan's fourth
>string football players.  They did well!  They scored, but they let
>Houstons high power run and shoot offense get seven points.  We here
>at Michigan are all really bummed out!  Becsause our fourth string 
>defense was not as good as we'd had hoped.  Oh well! there is always
>next time.  They should probably do well against IOWA.  

Something similar happened at Illinois last year, and look what happened in
the dome this year.  Does Mich. paly Houston next year?  I hope so.  I hope
the Illinois trend repeats itself with Mich.

Todd

P.S. I'm not a Houston fan, I just dislike the little(big) 10->100.  I guess
     we'll have to wait until next year on this one.

>	Houston's high power offense really did not look that bad!  Really!
>They just forgot to move the ball and score, thats all!

>Have Fun Folks.

>- CHY  
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From: JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: msu DESTROYS uf -----> 30:6
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:41:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92276.144139JCT3
 <1992Oct2.164822.13595@en.ecn.purdue.edu>
Organization: Penn State University

At last word, Robinson is out for the season.  A medical red-shirt can
only be granted if the injury occurs during the first three games of
the season, so he's not eligible for that.

MSU may be in trouble; their offense was built around Robinson's
running ability.  We'll wait and see.


Jim Thomas
From: seale@bcserv.wustl.edu (Seale (Jeff))
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Texas Tech NC State
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:09:51 GMT
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bcserv.wustl.edu

I heard that the Tech NC State game was being televised
by ESPN? Does anyone know?
Thanks,
  -Jeff   Go TECH!!!!!!
From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ND & polls
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:57:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Sep29.185711.28731
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department

In article <1992Sep29.181453.16844@wl.com> wyborsr@wl.com (Russ Wyborski) writes:
>	After the most recent CNN poll where Penn State moved ahead of ND,
>I don't think that anyone can claim tht ND is given special favors in the
>polling system. They haven't lost to anyone this year, and you can all save
>your comments about the Michigan game, and they have still dropped 4 spots
>in this poll. You can say what you want about the competition thay have 
>beaten but PSU has exactly beaten any juggernauts either but yet they have
>continued to move up in the rankings. This is just another example of why
>some kind of playoff/computer scoring system is needed to really decide this
>thing.
>	The only way that ND will win another MNC is to go undefeated and 
>untied through a season. Even then my bet is that if there is another 
>undefeated team then ND will get the shaft.

As an ND fan, I don't much care about the recent ups and downs of Notre
Dame in the polls.  We're still in the top ten, and still have our
strongest opponents coming up.  Most of the teams above us still have
their biggest games coming up, too.  If we win our games and they lose
theirs, I have no doubt we'll move up.  If we don't win ours, of course,
we don't deserve to move up.  If everybody keeps on winning, it will be
hard to argue that a team with no defeats and a strong schedule deserves
to be behind Notre Dame with a tie.

Also, there is credible reason for Notre Dame to drop a bit in the polls.
Their high ranking going into the season was based on the presumption 
that the offense would be nearly unstoppable and the defense improved.
The offense failed to perform in the Michigan game (beating up on patsies
doesn't prove anything) and much of the defensive play has been questionable.
Until Notre Dame proves itself by beating a strong opponent, we don't
deserve to be much higher than we are.  I've always felt that polls should
reflect the voters true feelings about a team, rather than this nonsense
about, "well we were rated #n last week, and we didn't lose, so no matter
how ugly we won or how convincingly other teams won, we don't deserve to
drop."  Just as Miami's performance last week made them seem undeserving
of the #1 spot, despite a win, Notre Dame's performance so far has not
been deserving of a top 5 spot.

--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
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From: chyang@exemplum.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang)
Subject: Re: FSU v. Miami
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 18:45:19 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: chyang@exemplum.engin.umich.edu


In article <1992Sep28.211331.758@den.mmc.com>, kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers) writes:
> In article <1p_pt+r@lynx.unm.edu> jade@triton.unm.edu (Eric Jaderlund) writes:
> >In article <BvAMrM.BC9@news.larc.nasa.gov> ohmann@sabaad.larc.nasa.gov (Daring Dale Douglas) writes:
> >>OK, so the 'Canes were caught looking ahead.  It's no surprise since
> >>the FSU/Miami game winner will be front runner for the MNC (no matter how
> >>good Washington may look this week).
> >
> >Yeah.... thats why Washington is ranked #1 and Miami and FSU are #2 and #3????
> 
> Yes.  Washington overtook Miami on the strength of its win over
> Nebraska, but a win over the #2 or #3 team will propel either FSU or
> Miami to #1 next week.  It was only a week before the Nebraska game that
> the Huskies were played pretty closely by Wisconsin.

	Agree!  But it might be argue as well that Washington overlooked 
Wisconsin to prepare for the match against Nebraska.  The scenario you 
speak of might very likely occur.  Unless, Washington runs up the score 
against USC, which may very likely occur as well because 40% of the player
in UW are from Cali.  And many of them live in the Neiborhood of Southern
Cal.  There are the extra incentive and most people in PAC-10 just don't 
like USC anyway.    
	
	We may very likely have a split pole again next week.  BTW, 
winning by 17 pts. against Wisconsin or against any team for that matter
should not really be considered "close."

	We'll see what happens.

May your favorite team win next week,

- C. H. Yang.  

> -- 
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> Martin Marietta MS A16401		(303) 790-3971
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From: atmadja@cs.purdue.edu (Hery Atmadja)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Wisconsin Badgers
Date: 4 Oct 92 05:21:05 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Department of Computer Sciences


YYEEEESSSSS!!!
I just have to get this out of my system.

I am 2 out of 2 so far w/ the Badger.
	Washington by 17 points
	Wisconsin beat OSU

Hery
PS: Yo salty! Got any news from the Badgerland. I'm stranded here!!!!
From: ds4@north3.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Who is number 1?
Date: 6 Oct 92 01:30:52 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.202915.25303@athena.mit.edu>, aviksroy@athena.mit.edu (Avik S. Roy) writes:

|> Thus, if a #1 Washington plays a #3 Michigan, and Michigan wins, who gets the MNC?
|> I think Michigan should if the victory is anywhere near convincing.  If Penn St.
|> beats Miami, I don't think Penn State will move up to #2, because Michigan will
|> continue to rout its opponents.  However, if Miami gets through its schedule,
|> who could it play?  Tennessee, maybe.  A&M, maybe.  But with Fla. State out, and
|> with Penn State out (if Miami beats them), there isn't a really good team for
|> Miami to play.  Therefore, the Rose Bowl will be the national championship once
|> again.  (And just a few years ago, you guys were all making fun of Pasadena.)

Keep dreaming.....If Miami goes undefeted in one of the toughest schedules in
college football, they will be considered for the national championship.  If
Michigan wins, and Miami beats an undefeated Texas A&M or Tenn., Miami will be
the sole National Champion.  Do not be so naive :)

-ds4
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From: ejohnson@turing.cse.nd.edu (eric johnson)
Subject: Re: FSU-Miami (one more opinion)
Reply-To: ejohnson@turing.cse.nd.edu (eric johnson)
Organization: Univ. of Notre Dame
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:12:56 GMT

In article <10970@sun13.scri.fsu.edu>, poore@ds13.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore) writes:
|>  
|> I should probably check this before putting my foot in my mouth, but I'm
|> (Orlando) in '94. I do not know if there are plans or contracts
|> extending the series after that. Most likely, ND will wait to see if we
|> beat them before deciding what to do. ;^)

FYI,

NDs schedule is set through 1997 (and maybe beyond) so unless someone else drops out
it will be only a two game series.

I'm personally glad ND-Miami don't play again. It is not a rivalry, (like FSU-Miami or
ND-USC) it is a HATE-fest. The players hate each other and the students hate each other.
I'd rather watch a game where there is at least respect on both sides and you can discuss
the outcome (rationally) with your opponents over a beer.

My opinion,
Eric
From: schmke@cco.caltech.edu (Kevin Todd Schmidt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Schmidt Computer Rankings through 27-Sep
Date: 4 Oct 92 16:06:49 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu

demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes:

>In article <1aae86INN277@gap.caltech.edu>, schmke@cco.caltech.edu (Kevin Todd Schmidt) writes:
>> Here are my computer rankings through the week ending 27-Sep-92.
>>... 
>> I welcome comments and suggestions.

>> 21   Wisconsin                 79.191   2-1-0  78.421  ( 15,  82.627)  -6
>...
>> 30   Ohio_State                76.980   3-0-0  68.880  ( 30,  77.320)  +0

>	Physician, heal thy algorithms.

Why?  Wisconsin won by 4!

Kevin
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From: scott@con.Berkeley.EDU (Scott Silvey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Attn:  CAL WEENIES!!!
Date: 29 Sep 92 10:34:16
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In-reply-to: dpassage@soda.berkeley.edu's message of 28 Sep 92 18:14:35


%    As some of you may be aware, the most hated team in the Pac Ten
%   (gernerally speaking, obviously everyone has there specific
%   rival) comes up to Husky Stadium this week.  You all know what this means.
%   72,000+ fans will be forced to listen to that damn song about 100 times.
%   I know that at last year's game, the Cal Weenies came up with lyrics to
%   the tune, and sang them every time U$C's band played the blasted thing.
%   If you would be so kind as to post them, I will try and get the Husky
%   student section to sing along.
%
% Oh, but it's for a good cause.  I guess we can forgive you.  Once.

Since the game is going to be on ABC, make sure you make up a large 
poster with the lyrics on it that takes at least three guys to hold up.
To make sure the cameras get a good shot, make up some clever phrase of 
three words that begin with the letters ABC.  Then hold up three large
numbers with the current count of the number of times that acursed
band has honked out the diabolical noise.  Having the people around 
the sign dramatically clasp their hands over their ears and wince in
pain might have a good affect as well.  Although that might be
involuntary.

We must call national attention to this cause ... rise up to silence
this Unrelenting Shameless Cacophony!!!!

Oh, and Go Bears!!!!


Scott, a Bear fan.


PS: In any case, you Washington Dawg-people have my warmest, heartiest,
and most sincere prayers that you completely and utterly demoralize that
vile, evil team on the field this weekend.  At least, you better do this
or else we're going to have to come up there and trash YOUR goal posts
too!  (like we did to Purdue when we got really pissed off at them)
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Subject: Big8 Preview(10-5-92)
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Mon,  5 Oct 1992 11:14:24 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


Sat(10-3)	results		my	marsee	gupta	schmidt	Sagarin	nat
ISU @ OU	17-3o		38-10o	20o	26-13o	12o	23o	25o
N.MexSt @ KSU	19-0ks		27-20ks	25ks	23-15ks	20ks	20ks	
Marshall @ MU	44-21mo		31-17ma 	10-7mo		1ma	
OSU @ TCU	13-11tc		21-20os 24os	20-17os	15os	7os	2tc


PICKS/vs SPREAD
	this week	overall
Mine	2-2/1-3		25-6/7-10
MARSEE	2-1/0-3		15-6/8-13
Gupta	3-1/3-1		17-5/13-9
Schmidt	2-1/1-2		24-4/14-11-1
Sagarin 2-2/0-4		14-5/10-9
Nation	2-0/1-0-1	15-3/11-5-2

Mine
Thu(10-8)
CU @ MU...(6:45pm ESPN)....revisit of the 5thdown game.  Be sure the
	officials won't do that again.  Mizzou finally won last week.
	But that won't be enough.  Watch Stewart's weak ankle on this
	"slippery" turf.  Buffs 31-9.
Sat(10-10)
KSU @ KU..(1:00pm PrimeNetwork(taped))...battle for the Governor's Cup
	in the Sunflower State.  I'm unimpressed with KSU's O, and just
	as unimpressed with KU's passing O.  Def. should be about even.
	I'll give the edge to KU's off and special teams.  KU 17-13
OSU @ NU...OSU has no offense.  But their D seems to be alright.  Watch
	NU wear out OSU's def by halftime and runover them in the 2nd half.
	NU 38-10.
OU vs Texas @Dallas  ABC....RedRiverRumble.  OU finally figured out in
	the ISU game that if someone stuffs your run, you gotta pass.
	I'm not impressed that OU only beat ISU by 14.  If Gibbs can't
	win this one, he'll be tarred-n-feathered.  OU 21-20.


Marsee's

Schmidt's picks

GUPTA's picks

Sagarin(team,place,rate,sch.str;opp,place,rate;diff[+3 for home team])


	conf		overall	
OU	1-0-0		3-1-0
CU	0-0-0		4-0-0
KSU	0-0-0		3-0-0
KU	0-0-0		3-1-0
NU	0-0-0		3-1-0
OSU	0-0-0		2-2-0
MU	0-0-0		1-3-0
ISU	0-1-0		2-3-0

TV games are CST.
PrimeNetwork....B8 games at midnight Sat and 6pm Sunday.  All 8
	coaches show starting at 3pm Wed.
KCNC, Denver affiliate NBC, is carrying other CU games.

Sat(10-17)
	OU @ CU
	KU @ ISU
	KSU @ UtahSt	 2:00pm KSNT
	MU @ OSU

Sat(10-24)
	KSU @ CU	 1:10pm KSNT,PrimeNetwork(taped)
	ISU @ OSU
	OU @ KU		 1:00pm
	NU @ MU

Sat(10-31)
	CU @ NU
	MU @ ISU
	OSU @ KU	 1:00pm
	KSU @ OU	 1:30pm PrimeNetwork(taped)

Thu(11-5)
	ISU @ KSU	 6:45pm ESPN
Sat(11-7)
	OSU @ CU
	MU @ OU
	KU @ NU		 1:00pm
	
Sat(11-14)
	CU @ KU		 1:00pm
	NU @ ISU
	KSU @ MU	 1:00pm
	OU @ OSU

Sat(11-21)
	ISU @ CU
	KU @ MU		 1:00pm
	KSU @ OSU	 1:10pm
Fri(11-27)
	NU @ OU		12:30pm ABC

Sat(12-5)
	KSU v NU(Toyko)  9:00pm
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