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From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Subject: Re: D O E S A M E R I C A S A Y Y E S T O J A P A N ?
Keywords: Bad Spelling
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 21:00:36 GMT

In article <1gaojuINNhf1@agate.berkeley.edu> jcliu@four-lab4.Berkeley.EDU (James C. Liu) writes:
>In article <Bz3utp.5G5@ncifcrf.gov> masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:

>  >In article <1g82c9INN1lj@agate.berkeley.edu> jcliu@four-lab4.
>  >Berkeley.EDU (James C. Liu) writes:
>
>    >>Louis Vetton Hand bags, $9.47 a bottle Clos Du Bois 1989 Merlot,
>    > ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>    >>nado, nado, make America a really fun and AFFORDABLE place to enjoy life
>    >>in.

>  >Yappari neeee. I thought that $35 is too cheap for a Louis Vuitton bag...

>Gomen.  I spelled it wrong...The bag is the GENUINE article.

   As for some brand goods, the price is said to be the best indicator of
genuineness. Although I don't mean to say that your information is unreliable,
I wonder how you confirmed that the L.V. is genuine.

   If it's really genuine,.....

>  You just need to know how, where,
>and when to shop.

   Yeah! I really need to know!! Would you e-mail me and let me know how, 
where, and when, please? I've got to get some souvenir.

--Michiaki
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: maierj@edmund.cs.andrews.edu (Joey Maier)
Subject: Re: Not a Myth at All
Organization: Andrews University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:33:57 GMT

In article <33443@twics.co.jp> dcroz@twics.co.jp writes:

>     If racism was wrong in America and South Africa, then it's wrong here; and
>if the "Japanese way of thinking" holds that it's *not* wrong, then the
>Japanese way of thinking is wrong.

I agree

>=}I have Japanese friends (who are not racist).
> 
>     Sorry, but in the absence of some corroboration I just can't regard either
>of these assertions as credible.  I don't doubt that you have Japanese
>acquaintances that turn a "friendly" tatemae toward you.  But, like they say,
>you don't find out who your friends really are until you sit on a rattlesnake.

I find myself in an awkward poition here.  I am agreeing with both
posters.  I don't feel like MY roommate & suitemates (all Japanese) 
have ever acted in
a racist manner towards me.   I also know that I am unable to look deep
into their psyche and see exactly what they think about me.  They can't
think too unfavorably of me, or we wouldn't have chosen to live together
for the second year in a row.

IMHO, every country, and every race contains some racists.  Also most, if
not all, people have residual traces of latent racism.  The important
thing is that we all need to learn to avoid any racist tendancies that
*WE* have.  As long as we aren't adding fuel to the fire, aren't making
the world a more bitter place to live, then we can have a clear
conscience.  Who knows, mabey our generation can be the first to make
rascists a global minority.



Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga)
Subject: Re: Education (was: Re: DOES AMERICA SAY YES TO JAPAN?)
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 12:20:58 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.194814.8532@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> jcliu@euler.Berkeley.EDU (James C. Liu - Nucl. Engin. UC Berkeley) writes:
>I wonder, what are the requirements in Japan for general education/ 
>humanities and social sciences requirements?  What are the technical
>requirements?  

Well, this is a vital issue right now.
[Formerly,] Japanese universities have general education requirements
similar to American universities (the Japanese system is likely to be
modelled after the US system).

The "general education" courses are presented in the 1st and 2nd grades
(freshman and sophomore) in major universities, though this may vary.
Of the some 140 units required for graduation (1 unit roughly corresponding
to a 1 hour per week, 1 semester course); about 8 units each as minimum are
required to be taken from courses categorized as humanities, social
sciences, and natural sciences (including math).  Further requirements
are posted according to the projected major.  Of course, the actual
content and level of the courses vary according to the projected major
(science/engineering, liberal arts) or by universities.
Other major requirements in the first two years are language and
physical exercise -- first foreign langauge (8 units: mostly English;
though language courses give 1/2 units per hour), second foreign language
(4 units: German, French, Chinese, Russian; roughly in the order of
popularity), and exercise (4 units: including lectures).

However, the current system is now under major revision in that:
there is a general tendency to decrease requirements in general
education, in favor of major-oriented courses; and more flexibility
is assigned to individual universities and faculties.
One central issue is the second foreign language -- it may completely
disappear in certain universities.

Some universities have specific policies in the majors too.
What comes to mind is Kyoto University (esp. Faculty of Science),
where although you nominally graduate from a certain Department,
you are free to choose courses from any Department in the Faculty
(eg. you can graduage from the Physic Dept. (or, for that matter,
from Botany) by taking courses of physics, math, chemistry, biology, etc.).

Personally, I agree with Justin Sullivan that general education is
a waste of time.

-Yuzuru Hiraga
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From: ritz@ritz.mordor.com (Christopher Mauritz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: I'm outta here.
Date: 13 Dec 92 22:27:00 GMT
Organization: Ritz International, Inc. -- Import/Export Consultants
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Bill Lambert (blamb@hri.com) wrote:
OS/2> You take good care Smittie. I was in Japan last week, and I *almost*
OS/2> met another famous net.personality. Well... a miss is as good as a
OS/2> mile. But next time I hope I can meet you and that other person,
OS/2> who still remains "faceless".

This brings up a good point.  How about a get together in Japan
or some other agreable location sometime?  I probably won't be
able to make it back there until Golden Week or so, but there's
no harm in trying to jockey my schedule now.

It would be very interesting to meet you guys/(girls?) in
person for a change.

Cheers,

Chris

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From: kerkoveericj@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: SEXUALITY?
Date: 12 Dec 92 11:58:40 CST
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA



	I have just started reading this news group this week, so I 
appoligize in advance for any redundancey (and horrible spelling)
in this post.  I just have a question reguarding the sexuality
of single Japanese women.  I have gathered very little from reading the 
previouse posts, except there are differing views on which is harder to get 
a date with, an American, or a Nihonjin.  That, I would asume, would have
to do with what person was asking which woman,  Makes sence, no?

	What I am more interested in knowing, would be perhaps how women, 
as apposed to Japanese men, look at dating/marying of people of 
different cultures or races, for example, an American (like me) or a 
Chinese.  Also, is virginity more or less sacred than it is in America, or
Canada (I am asuming US and Can are simmilar in this aspect)  I know that 
nudity is not taking so seriousely, but actaul phisical contact is still a 
question in my mind, for example, kissing is a no no on the first date, 
etc... (By the way, I know America is a bad compairison to make because 
values are more or less family related than culturally related.)

	I realize, as I've stated above, that much has to do with the 
individuals involved, but I am curiouse none the less, about the norm.

				 Arigatoo 
				Eric Kerkove -fin-

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Subject: Re: Texas Southern University marching band in To^kyo^
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:59:31 GMT

In article <1glumhINNi4d@agate.berkeley.edu> robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:
>In article <BzBorr.68C@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> dwwillia@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David Williams) writes:
.....
>>And look at how the police reacted.  They avoided a scene and tried to
>>talk the students out of their pilfered items.  What would have happened in
>>America if a 120 foreigners went on a mass stealing spree?  There would
>>have been gunplay, count on it.
.....

>The group would have met just such a fate, had they been Filipinos or
>Blacks.

   Were there no Filipinos or Blacks in the band?

--Michiaki
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.asian.america,soc.culture.usa,misc.education
From: irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine)
Subject: Re: education (was: Re: DOES AMERICA SAY YES TO JAPAN?)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:12:39 GMT

In article <HARKCOM.92Dec14093243@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp> harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom) writes:
>In article <Bz10xF.7LG@cs.uiuc.edu> watanabe@cs.uiuc.edu (Larry Watanabe)
>   writes:
>
> =}When I was in Japan, I was surprised to find that all the
> =}secretaries were university graduates.  And most menial 
> =}laborers did manage to pass their calculus course in high
> =}school.
>
>   Controversial topic of women in education in Japan aside...
>
>   Since I have a large number of 'menial labor' friends then I think I
>might be able to shed some light on their 'calulus'...  To say it simply,
>many did not pass their calculus course in high school...  A minority
>didn't even go to high school...
>
> =}Even the bag people .. who were much, much dirtier and 
> =}disreputable looking than American bag people .. seemed to
> =}read far more newspapers and books than American bag people.
> =}One of them even appeared to be writing a novel.
>
>   This is one area where the Japanese educational system and the social
>structure supporting it does very well.  Almost everyone will get enough
>education to be able to develop an appreciation of things like reading...

I hope you are joking here, homeless/bag people who are educated, yet
cannot house themselves or find jobs speaks of a social system that
is not very 'supportive.'  Isn't the point of education to open doors
of opportunity, and allow people to better themselves economically?

A bunch of over-educated bag people devouring books shows a lot of
intellectual waste - a social structure unable to support its own.

>
> =}I think we need to work on the quantity as well as quality.
>
>   I totally agree.  I also feel that the US needs to work on the
>social structure supporting education, making education accessible
>to the lower classes, and concentrating more on education about the
>physical world around us rather than the human view of it...

If you mean more science, yes.  The infrastructure is there, as people
are required by law to attend school until 16 (no additional costs
if you go to a state school), but in application, while students
*do* attend until 16 or later, there has been a lot of questioning
about the quality of that education.  The consensus is that it is not
uniform or on average as good as it should be.  

I think the quantity is there (number of people in the system), but
the quality needs to be improved in some way.  I hope Pres. Clinton
addresses this issue.
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From: jcliu@four-lab4.Berkeley.EDU (James C. Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: DOES AMERICA SAY YES TO JAPAN? - Off track!!
Date: 16 Dec 1992 02:01:22 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley Dept. of Nuclear Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: four-lab4.berkeley.edu
Keywords: NO.  Most of America is unaware of ChageAsu

In article <7531@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:

  >In article <1992Dec15.214210.19181@oakhill.sps.mot.com>, 
  >rvkl60@aus18a25.sps.mot.com (Tom Mathes) writes:

  >=> I've been following the evolution of this thread, and man, has
  >=> it gotten off course.  Education in Japan was only a small bit
  >=> of the original post.
  >=> 
  >=> Let's get this discussion back on the REAL message of the
  >=> original post: the Japanese coordinated attack on industry
  >=> in the US, and the mercantilistic trading practices of Japan.
  >=> 
  >=> Those are the real issues the paper discusses, not educational
  >=> differences between the two countries.
  >
  >What you call the REAL message has already been discussed at length
  >quite a bit here. I suppose people got bored with that, and the
  >thread drifted onto less covered ground (this year, anyway).

  [facetiousness alert on 8-)]

To ADD REAL meaning to the topic of "Does America SAY YES to Japan"
I'd have to say that probably,.. not!  Like most American's have never
even heard of Chage & Aska, let alone their 1991 hit single "SAY YES."
We might get into the intricacies of melody and pitch, especially
just at the end of the 2nd verse when they sing:

        "...mayowazu ni...SAY YES...mayowazu niiiiiii!"

Americans can't "SAY YES" unless they get the first "mayowazu ni" just
right...It's easy to goof.  It's sung on a flat monotone prior to the
"SAY YES" and ONLY then does the song crescendo on the 2nd "mayowazu
ni"  Most American attempts at "SAY YES" will fail.  Knowledge, a priori
of the dynamic timing in enunciation of the Japanese is requisite.  No
way!  Da Me!  America can't "SAY YES" to Japan when they have Chage
& Aska who "SAY YES" so well already. 8-)

Sore ni,  additional difficulty can be found in the last set of 
"SAY YES"es.  Four in total to be exact.  But the 3rd one is just ever 
so slightly stressed almost like "SAY YEehhssssu"  then a quick drop 
back to the same tone as before and finish with one final, quick "SAY YES"

Muzukashi naaaa!

Jaa, James
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,talk.politics.guns
From: cmort@NCoast.ORG (Christopher Morton)
Subject: Re: Yoshi Hattori
Reply-To: cmort@ncoast.org (Christopher Morton)
Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:20:37 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.japan

As quoted from <1992Dec13.232528.21465@mtu.edu> by cescript@mtu.edu (Charles Scripter):

> In article <Ef_fE1i00iV144SjxH@andrew.cmu.edu>, ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu
> (Rikiya Asano) writes:
> 
> > I'll send you back to OHIO in a bodybag!
> 
> Threats of bodily harm and murder against US Citizens may be grounds
> for deportation Riki.  Use caution...
> 
But who would actually believe that that Takarazuka wannabe could actually
DO anything?

Say YaDAAAAA! RiKKKiko-chan.... :)


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: jcliu@euler.Berkeley.EDU (James C. Liu - Nucl. Engin. UC Berkeley)
Subject: Re: Not a Myth at All
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 20:10:38 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.053918.12820@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@
leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:

  >I personally find that Korean-ge ladies and Japanese-ge ladies are much
  >prettier than Chinese-ge ladies.  I.e. I find the Korean-ge look and the
  >Japanese-ge look to be far more pleasing.

Are you sure it's the "look" and not the voice?  I find Korean and 
Japanese language to be very *appealing* when spoken in a feminine
tone.  But appearance wise, dude, I find that the Chinese gals are,
uh hmmm, excuse me ladies, but "better endowed." [of course, not 
every package is the same, contents may have settled during 
shipping] 8-).

Another thing specific mostly to Japanese gals, is motion of the hand
over the mouth prior to and during a giggle, which is most appealing
and cute, but usually a let down because behind the hand is some
pretty horrible dental work.  A close encounter usually brings back 
nightmares of Sigourney Weaver as Lt. Ripley in the movie Aliens. 8-).

I guess, one man's dog bite is a another man's kiss.

Jaa, James
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Organization: Rohm and Haas Company
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 12:32:11 EST
From: Larry E. Cravetz <RSAYLC@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Vernon Jordan
 <of=w6l200Vp_AQNWVn@andrew.cmu.edu>




In article ..... Rikiya Asano says:

>Let's take out the trash!

Like you? A more worthless waste of living space has rarely been encountered...

Why do you insist on fomenting hatred and intolerance? Don't you think that
there is enough of that in this world of ours?

(I will now go back to ignoring you, as I have been...)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.india,soc.culture.asian.american
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:55:43 -0500 
From: Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Yoshi Hattori
	<1gnu5qINN816@transfer.stratus.com>
Distribution: usa

Friends,

               This is something that I saw on another nettwork!

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>From: jl52800@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The Incredible Mr.Wong)
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
>Subject: Racism in Tom and Jerry? You tell me....
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>Date: 16 Dec 92 09:06:41 GMT
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> 
>I have been reading the posts on stereotypes and racism for a while now. Since
>I've been up for about 40 hours now, I think I'll throw something out onto 
>the net. 
> 
>The cartoon I'm talking about appears on the Tom and Jerry show, but is NOT
>Tom and Jerry. The first time I saw the episode was at least 10 years ago.
>At that point, it was uncut. The name of the episode was somthing like 'The
>Maestro.' It had to do with a magic wand that got used as a conductor's stick.
>The result was that a character went through many transformations. Some of the
>transformations included racial stereotypes. The "Little Black Sambo" showed
>up complete with big lips, big eyes, and white teeth. The "Chinaman" also made
>an appearance with teh character in a robe with the sleeves together, wearing
>a farmer's straw hat, and having squinty eyes and a Fu Manchu mustache. I saw
>the same episode last year and noticed that the black stereotype was
gone while
>the chinese one remained. I figured that (generalization coming) black people
>are more vocal when it comes to racial issues, and had protested or
complained.
>One more thing. Has anyone who reads Beetle Bailey noticed that corporal Yo's
>eyes are no longer squinted shut? I don't know if they still give him the 
>stereotypical japanese mindset tho....
> 
>Damn I need to sleep
 
>Mr.Wong
 

Asian have alot to think about when they come to America! And, On the
saying goes: " I Never met a Chinese that I didn't like"  By the way,
have you ever
seen some of the Japanese sterotypical Cartoons(especially, during the
war by Euro-American filmmakers)?

Mr. Wong, P.E., 1993 and all that! 

Please don't worry about me coping this. He "Threw it out onto the net!
I just threw it a little farther!
From: mmigdol@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (michael a migdol)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Texas Southern University marching band in To^kyo^
Date: 20 Dec 92 02:49:17 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <BzD2Ay.A95@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> dwwillia@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David Williams) writes:
>So what has happened to these criminals?  I hope they are at least kicked out
>of school.  Then they could drop the pretensions and get on with their 
>criminal careers.

According to an article in the paper this week (which I don't have handy),
several of the band members were given "unspecified disciplanary action."
In addition, the band organization has been dissolved.

I hope that this helps!
-Michael
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Subject: Re: RIKIYA ASANO
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:01:06 GMT

In article <Dec11.070015.73031@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura) writes:
>In article <Bz2vqC.2uM@ncifcrf.gov> masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:
.....
>>As I mentioned several
>>times, Mr. Asano seems to have some technical problems; he doesn't
>							 ^^^^^^^^^^
>>seem to know how to respond by e-mail, and if my memory serves me 
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>correctlly, he has never cited other netters' message in his posting
>>as I am doing now.
.....

>	Telling the truth, I sent Mr. Asano an e-mail asking not to use all 
>	those offensive language a few weeks after he appeared on the net.
>	He, to your surprise, did respond me by e-mail,

   Hmmmm. Maybe, he is more capable than I've been thinking. As he achieved 
a rather shocking debut by responding to (probably) all the e-mails in public,
I was under an impression that he does not know how to respond by e-mail.

   Anyway, I still believe that he needs some basic introduction or 
orientation on the USENET. He seems to be quiet for the last couple of
days. I hope he is spending the time attending the course. Let's be
prepared for his re-debut.

--Michiaki 
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