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From: gallo@almira.asel.udel.edu (Andy Gallo)
Subject: Re: Libertarian Party (RE: Al and Tipper Gore)
Organization: AI duPont Institute
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:17:48 GMT



	To me, the Libertarian platform has no respect for
environmental concerns.  Essentially they want to repeal all the laws
and then let we the citizens fight the multi-national corporations in
the courts when our kids are born with 2 heads.  Joe Citizen, who is
hardly able to make the mortgage payment each month, doesn't have the
cash needed to take these guys on in a long protracted battle.  In
addition, the Libertarian position is "reactive" instead of
"proactive" - let the companies dump and then sue them for doing it
instead of preventing them from dumping in the first place (nobody is
going to win a suit where the plaintiff claims the company is
harboring "intention to dump").
	The problem with the situation as it exists now is that any
environmental legistlation that is enacted has sufficient loopholes
for corporations (thanks to the lobbies and the lawyers) so that the
laws are hollow anyway.  But if the company follows the letter of
these laws, the citizen has no leg to stand on in a suit.  Statements
like "people can't do it, only governments can" is valid only if the
government is working in the best interests of the people, which it is
clearly not doing.  The Libertarian would say, perhaps correctly, that
since government is already in the hands of business, let's restrict
the powers of the government, so that business therefore has less
power, and then free up the people to fight back in the courts.  In
theory it sounds nice, but as some people have suggested, in practice
its scary.
	To me, the only way to protect the environment, and "take back
America" in general, is to get government out of the hands of big
business.  We can start by eliminating PAC's, enacting campaign reform
(Brown's $100 max contribution idea is a good place to start), and
returning to the original intention of the Constitution, which is
government by the people for the people.

	Amen to that.

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From: tnf@well.sf.ca.us (David Gans)
Subject: Re: Crazy Fingers in Berkeley 10/9
Summary:  Set list
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 20:02:23 GMT


Here's what Crazy Fingers played at the Starry Plough last night:

Honeydew
Waltzing Across Texas
Watching the Detectives->
Rocket Man->
Lady of the Well->
Sultans of Swing
Don't Pass Me By->
Jacqueline
China Cat Sunflower->
Poncho and Lefty->
Thunder Road->
Travelin' Man


Mason's Children->
Hyperactive Mountain King->
Cassidy->
What's So Funny 'Bout Peace, Love and Understanding?->
Caroline->
Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
True Love->
Let It Rock

Next Crazy Fingers performance is Sunday, October 25, 8pm at 
Sweetwater in Mill Valley.


-- 

	David Gans	tnf@well.sf.ca.us
			{apple,pacbell,hplabs,ucbvax}!well!tnf

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From: petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Julie Petersen)
Subject: I need the tape-heads address
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 06:13:48 GMT


Like the subject line says, I need the email address for tape-heads
(for submissions). Due to a computer change I no longer have the
address...

If you could send the address right away I would appreciate it-

thanks
Jim
petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
jp@darkstar.com
From: jackaroe@wharf.UUCP (Bart Zantzinger)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Favorite venue
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:03:24 GMT
Organization: Fisherman's Wharf BBS  (215) 383-7245

I was really hurting a few years back, after the Foxboro show, I guess in 
1989, when I spent 11 hours on the road, lost my shoes, drove on the 
racetrack during the 3 hour wait to get out of the parking lot, etc. etc, 
etc.  I was through with the Dead, the scene, the whole 9 yards.  I 
skipped JFK (last show) in my own back yard though I had tickets - I 
wasn't going to any more shows.

Keith browbeat me into going to RFK, where I'd never been before.  It was 
like night and day.  Wide open, nice people - I go every year that the 
Dead are there now, and will as long as they play there.  HAmpton's still 
my favorite indoor venue (the security's at the door so that it doesn't 
have to be inside) but RFK just pushed all my buttons.  Of course, over 
these 3 years, the special songs haven't hurt at all.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<*>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<<<   My mind's been going places without me lately.              >>>
<<<   jackaroe%wharf@canal.org                                    >>> 
<<<                                   - or something like that    >>>
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<*>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
From: elambert@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Eber Lambert)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Dead Citing: In the form of a question
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:48:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: qualcom.elambert.718559321
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

A couple of nights ago a Jeopardy contestant listed being a Deadhead
as one of his interest. Trabek pick up on it and asked him how many shows
and mentioned that his daughter was a Deadhead. 
 
The guy Steve did pretty well but flamed out in final J where he

el
From: pmc@world.std.com (Patrick M Chase)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Cool "Green" T company?
Date: 11 Oct 92 23:49:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

I'm trying to locate a T-shirt that a couple of people out there may be 
wearing right now (although I haven't seen them on tour yet). This shirt 
has the image of a little blonde girl riding atop a balloon that represents 
the planet Earth. The balloon has popped and all the air is rushing out. 
There is text above and below the balloon of some witty comment about 
how the Earth is up shit creek (I don't recall what it says).

I saw this shirt in a small T-shirt shop in Lake George NY a month or two 
ago and wanted to get it for a friend for Christmas, but didn't have any 
cash on me at the time.

I noticed that the name and phone number of the company that 
manufactures this shirt (and a dozen other *really* nice shirts) was 
printed along the right edge of the image. I wrote it down, and then lost it.

So, if anyone has seen this shirt, could you Email me the name and number 
of the company that makes these shirts? They make several that I'm 
interested in (and you may like as well). Real nice stuff...
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From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: Re: Idiots was Re: Clinton and Drugs
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: rec.music.gdead
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 21:05:56 GMT

In article <Bw2u7t.Buu@inews.Intel.COM> janderso@smdvx1.intel.com (Jim Anderson) writes:
>Can you say *LOOSER*? What other idiots are floating around in
>them songs we know so well?

Personally, I always thought the lion was the real idiot,
I mean what large feline worth his or her skin coouldn't
take out a paltry human? Sheesh...

signing off,
Bill
>
>Jim "Beam" Anderson
>janderso@smdvx1.intel.com
>janderso@smdvx1.intel.com
>
>"With out love in the dream it will never come true."


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From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Subject: Re: The Venue from Hell (was Re: Favorite venue)
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:33:24 GMT

In article <3959@unisql.UUCP>,
wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes:
>In article <5527@balrog.ctron.com> mattb@olympus.ctron.com (Matt Brown) writes:
>>So, what's your vote for Godforsaken venue of all time.?
>
>        Landover.
>
>>ODBC: What's the worst place Neil has played?
>
>        Usenet.
>
>

MY vote for the anti-diamondback of the decade :>  somebody's gotta
dew it (roll away ... )

lara
-<-@
From: rewerts@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (Chris C Rewerts)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Clinton-Gore mail server
Keywords: no ODC
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:05:30 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

geoff@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Geoff Wells) writes:

>I have received much mail in the past few days about my post regarding the
>Clinton Gore mail server. I would like to pass along some information for
>those interested and apologize to those who aren't.

yo ho Geoff and all:

First off, geoff, I appreciate your passing the info along about the
potential ability to connect to the candidate over the ether. Out of
curiosity, I gave it a try. So far this is all that happened:

| From root@uunet.uu.net Fri Oct  9 08:45:16 1992
| From: MAILER-DAEMON@uunet.uu.net
| Subject: Waiting Mail
| 
| After 3 days (87 hours), your message to the following people:
| 
|	 mail.clinton-gore.org!clinton-wins  (host=dcclint)
| 
| has not yet been delivered. Attempts to deliver the message will
| continue for 26 more days. No further action is required by you.
| 
| ----- Queued message begins -----   
| Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 16:58:35 -0500
| From: uunet!ecn.purdue.edu!rewerts (Chris C Rewerts)
| To: clinton-wins@mail.clinton-gore.org
| Subject: info all
| 

so far it looks like it isn't working. Like "grandfather" said 
(in Little Big Man), "sometimes the magic works, sometimes it
doesn't." I sent my message in a bottle, and it is up to the
deamons now.

consolation:
Now, to relate this back to our shared world of r.m.gdead, imagine
a net actively populated by the candidates, their people, the press...
What a flame war that that would be. Maybe it is for the best that
the pundits and politicos remain only a topic and not a presence in
our electronic universe. 

other possibilities:
meanwhile, back in the foggy corners of my biological memory, I recall
poking around some BBS and IS that had candidate's position papers
and such on file, so there are other electronic possibilities to
turn some of the massive data across the nets into information
for our use.

and now, I have a mind to read in a quote:

"Some mon just deal wit' information. An' some mon, him deal wit'
the concept of truth. An' den some mon deal wit' magic. Information
flow aroun' ya, an' truth flow right at ya. But magic, it flow t'rough
ya."
                   -Nernelly (A Jamaican Bush Doctor), 1982.

aye, peace, me brothers and sisters, don' give up the fight.

chris (rewerts@ecn.purdue.edu)  
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From: gaile@grouper.mkt.csd.harris.com (Gail Edwards)
Subject: Re: Nudity
Organization: The Wavy Gravy Retirement Center
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:06:26 GMT

In article <3866@unisql.UUCP> wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes:
>In article <1992Oct2.184856.27868@grouper.mkt.csd.harris.com> gaile@grouper.mkt.csd.harris.com (Gail Edwards) writes:
>>A footnote to the [Tom's] footnote: Nudity still happens.  
>
>	I seem to remember "lizard people" from some show in the distant
>past.  The lizard people got naked and crawled around in the dirt like
>lizards...  I call them lizard people because I think I asked one what
>was up and he said something about being a lizard or a reptile or whatever...

Oh great, a nudity thread, Tom "now look what you started" Jacobs ;-)
Well then, here's my bit of memorabilia.  Why, I remember when I was
just a young whipper snapper t'was ...

Summer of 1976, and I was several weeks into sitting the house on the
hill in Mill Valley.  The house had a great big swimming pool and outdoor
jacuzzi, and we'd been holding an ongoing pool party for weeks, bathingsuit
optional.  Pamela, the singer who lived next door, and her eccentric
friends were regulars, but you just never could tell who would show up.  I
remember one afternoon, Patti Smith's manager came over with some coke,
but we had to ask him to leave when we discovered he was packing a gun.
Then there was the other neighbor, an older guy that used to lurk in the
bushes ogling the nude women, and who we nicknamed Bela Lugosi.

On Bastille Day, we had a big bash in honor of the revolution, and
I shall never forget our artist friend Danny standing at the edge of the
diving board, naked, with his long hair blowing in the breeze, fist raised
in victory, shouting "Vive le revolution!", as the crowd cheered.

Ain't life strange?  Nearly ten years later, my sister was to marry the
brother of the woman who owned the house, RIP David.

Gail
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From: dblackbu@alleg.edu (Dave Blackburn)
Subject: Re: What's wrong with anarchy?
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:54:28 GMT

In article <3918@unisql.UUCP> wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes:
|In article <1992Oct9.161603.26853@EE.Stanford.EDU> bill@isl.Stanford.EDU  
(Bill Moore) writes:
|>Bill "what's so funny about peace love and anarchy?" Moore
|
|	Anarchy is unbalanced, and without balance nothing can long endure.

--
Anybody who thinks anarchy is good ought to move to Somalia, the world's best  
approximation of anarchy. 
* Dave Blackburn  dblackbu@alleg.edu  flames to self@home.dev.null *          
* Chemistry, Macs, Hypercard, cats,  <>< religion, & the Dead      *
* (Anyone else who held these opinions would be as crazy as I am.) *
*   "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own"   *
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From: hrust@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Re: Enuff Flames
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 00:39:01 GMT

All I have too say is if their are enough Diamondbacks out there, they should
start rec.music.neil, rather than leavin' all their messages here.  I would
probably join said newsgroup.

Still Laughin' :-?		-H Rust
				Camp Hamp

From: Trog.Martian@p4.f851.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Trog Martian)
Sender: NewsMeisterII@mcws.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: New 'round here
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:49:13 -0800

In a msg on <Oct 14 01:13>, Samuel Stanley Lehrfeld of 1:102/851 writes:


 SSL> Hey now.....
 SSL> I'm kinda new at all this computer crap and don't really know 
 SSL> what I'm  
 SSL> doing here, so don't hold me too liable.....

Hey, good goin!  You found us!

Welcome!

-Trog

 * Origin: TAG!  You're It! (1:102/851.4)
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From: cii6694@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Pete Doyle)
Subject: Set list
Followup-To: ciii6694 Pete Doyle 
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:59:37 GMT


    Hello fellow deadheads I need to know if any buddy has the set list to
the fall tour of Richland, Ohio 1991, I can't remember the dates but I
believe it was sometime in early october.  I only say friday nights show
(which was the last of a three night stand) but it had to be one of the best
shows I have ever seen.  Please if anyone can help, I realy need the set
list as soon as possible.


                                            PEACE

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From: AAAUUUUGGGGHHHH_MY_HEAD_HURTS <JPC2901@ritvax.isc.rit.edu>
Subject: song/event that first got you into the dead
Reply-To: JPC2901@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:21:38 GMT

hey there-
after reading a post a few minutes ago about how terrapin was the first thing
that got someone into the dead.(sorry can't remember who it was).  i wanted to
start a new thread here on what first got people into the dead,  what song ro
event happened that got you where you are today......

for me it was sitting in my fraternal big brothers room partaking of a few
things listening to US Blues....not sure why that song affected me the way it
did but i am sure glad that it did.........

later :-)

-jim

oh yeah....here's my campaign slogan for my party of choice...

inhale.....vote bush/quayle  ;-).....

yes there are republican deadheads out here..........
From: andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: New line of Ties
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:37:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvaarpa.1992Oct13.173718.2055
Reply-To: andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com
Organization: The Internet


	K-Mart has introduced a new line of ties "inspired by the music of
Neil Diamond".  These ties include a short "personal" message from Neil
explaning the song or songs which inspired that particular tie's design.
The first issue of neck-wear will include five different patterns.  No
descriptions of said patterns were available at the press release. K-Mart
spokesperson Bo Snerdley was quoted as saying that "Neil wishes to keep
the designs a secret until they go on sale".   However, after the press
release,  DiamondBack Advisory Board chairman Steve TOO was alegedley
seen wearing a tie rumored to have been the "Crunchy Granola" pattern,
a presonal gift from the middle aged singer after the leader's inauguration
party last week.  TOO could not not be reached for comment.  The ties go
on sale at "select" K-Marts through out the United States sometime in
December.
From: xtifr@netcom.com (Chris Waters)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: first encounters
Date: 17 Oct 92 03:02:50 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In <1992Oct16.204111.15460@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> ADJS000 <ADJS@nmumus.bitnet> writes:

>AAAAA-CHOOOO MY HEAD HURTS wanted to start a thread on `first
>encounters' or something like that....

First encounters, huh?  I first heard the Dead when my mom brought home
their first album.  Saw 'em for the first time when she took me the the
"Human Be-In" in Golden Gate Park in '66, when I was 7 years old.  Went
by myself to see 'em for the first time in the spring of '73, when I was
fourteen.  No tales of poor old mothers tearing out their hair at my
youthful rebellion here, I'm afraid.  :-)

Oh yeah, and I started letting my "freak flag fly" before I ever started
school.

I never did successfully rebel against my parents, but I tried a few
times.  So now I'm a punk/funk/zappa/jazz/metal/deadhead.  :-)

"You sick of hanging aroun' an' you wanna travel;
  You tired of travelin', you wanna stop at MCDONALDS!"
                        -- "Truckin', the Fast Version" by Joe "Pop-o-pie"
-- 
Chris Waters    | the insane don't | NOBODY for President!
xtifr@netcom.COM| need disclaimers | Because Nobody's perfect!!
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From: AAT@deimos.ucc.umass.edu (Gus Trautweiler)
Subject: Another Nudity Story (Hampton)
Organization: University of Massachusetts
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:47:11 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

At the 4/14/84 Hampton show while sitting on the floor about 10 people from
the stage, during the set break, I turned around to notice a cicle of floor
space growing and growing.  As I stood up to see better I became part of the
perimeter of this circle.  Much to my shock, in the center of the circle was
a very large military man standing with nothing on but his green boxer shorts
and his dinger hangin' out pissin'!  He then began rolling around the circle
getting chunks of broken glass in his back, blood everywhere, making noises
ect..  One of his military friends (a huge guy himself) tried to grab him from
behind.   The guy freaking out just elbowed him in the face.  A Very nasty 
bloody nose resulted and the rolling continued.   This freak then rolls right
in front of me, on all fours he freezes, stares into my eyes (his were only
pupil) for a brief moment real time, a very long time for me as I was frozen
stiff with chills in my spine freakin'!  Just as fast as he came he left and
did the same to several other stunned souls.  This went on for a few more
minutes until security grabbed him by the arms and legs and removed him.  Funny
that he hardly struggled against them. As if he just wanted to get out of
there.  Which considering a bad trip is quite likely though he could have
walked.  When he was removed the coliseum cheered and all went back to
"normal".



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From: x89poulos1@gw.wmich.edu
Subject: Allman Bros.
Reply-To: x89poulos1@gw.wmich.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 03:13:25 GMT

Does anyone have the setlist for The Allman Bros on 9-7-92, Atlanta, GA.

Thanks.
From: eds@po.CWRU.Edu (Ethan D. Siegel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Horrible Cap Centre Story
Date: 17 Oct 1992 04:23:17 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


So I'm sitting during Space at the Cap Centre this March, and 
out of nowhere, this *HUGE* security guard comes over to me at
random, makes me get up, fish my ticket out of my pocket (we all
know the problems that pockets can present under pressure in 
certain situations) and show him that I had the ticket for my
seat.  I showed him my ticket, which was one over from where I 
was sitting, and he made me get my buddy's ticket from him in the
next seat over to show him that we had both tickets for the two
seats.  We weren't even standing, we were sitting, the aisles 
were empty, and I was just picked on at random.  I've never
experienced anything like that at another venue, random ticket
checks of people in their seats!  Thumbs down to the Crap Centre.

Ethan
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From: hbpeltz@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Harry Peltz)
Subject: Re: A real Dead post this time. 
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 09:27:26 EDT

In article <1992Oct13.150902.6647@pellns.alleg.edu> dblackbu@alleg.edu (Dave Blackburn) writes:
>A .net.head poll:
>What song(s) would you like to see revived after their break?
>I'd like to hear a modern version of "Alligator". I bet it would get a quite  
>different treatment now! 
>
>--
>
>* Dave Blackburn  dblackbu@alleg.edu  flames to self@home.dev.null *          
>* Chemistry, Macs, Hypercard, cats,  <>< religion, & the Dead      *
>* (Anyone else who held these opinions would be as crazy as I am.) *
>*   "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own"   *

Hows about Mason
Mason's Children?

Harry
From: gt1054a@prism.gatech.EDU (JOHNSTON,JERRY WAYNE)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: She's an Artist
Date: 13 Oct 92 01:32:16 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Oct12.151134.15839@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com writes:
>
>	Someone posted one of those "id this show" with two songs listed (!!!)
>Dark Star, She's an Artist.   Shouldn't the second song be titles "She belongs
>to me"  a cool Dylan tune that Garcia pulled out around 1985?  Don't think
>it got much playing time beyond that, though.
>
>	
	Not sure if anyone's posted anything about this yet.


	I believe the name of the song is She Belongs to Me.

	DeadBase V says that it was first played 1-07-66 between
	On the Road Again and I'll Go Crazy.

	It wasn't played again until 1985 and then only in 1985, 9 times.
	However, I don't see it anywhere adjacent to a Dark Star.



								Jay


-- 
JOHNSTON,JERRY WAYNE
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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