HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bross@splatter.nas.nasa.gov (Bill Ross)
Subject: cartoon & article
Organization: NAS Program, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 01:18:46 GMT

---

Cartoon by Toles in the _New Republic_: 2-seater biplane taxiing
to take off on a runway, dragging a banner which says "CAPITALISM."
Pilot is Yeltsin and back seat man is Paliament, who is looking back
at the banner dragging on the ground and saying, "It's not _working_
I tell you. Slow down a little more." Two similar miniature figures also
appear at the lower right corner of the cartoon, and the one in back
is saying, "Try backing up. I've got a much better view."

---

        Bread at six cents a loaf

        Paul Klebnikov,  _Forbes_ magazine, Jan 4, 1993

Summarized/excerpted by Bill Ross

  "... Russia produces roughly $200 billion a year of oil, gas, steel,
coal and grain.
  "What is this mighty economy worth? Not much if you value the Russian
ruble at its current free market exchange value. At 450 rubles to the
dollar, Russia's gross national product comes to $38 billion. ...
  "[amounting to] a per capita income of $250. That can't be so,
because if it were, Russians would be as hungry as Somalis. ...
  "[in terms of purchasing power] the ruble is unbelievably cheap.
In Russia you can buy an excellent loaf of bread for 26 rubles, [i.e.]
only 6 cents...
  "...Using purchasing power parities as a benchmark, [Jan] Vanous
[director of D.C.-based consulting firm PlanEcon] believes that at
450 to the dollar, the ruble is valued at 3% of its real, long-term
value. Even allowing for Russia's 25%-per-month inflation, Vanous
says, a more realistic rate would be about 12 rubles to the dollar.
Then Russia's GNP, even after its 35% fall over the last three years,
would be worth about $1.4 trillion, just behind Germany's. ...
  "... Chernomyrdin and the big industrial managers he represents
sank outgoing Prime Minister Yegor Gaidar's crash program to create
free enterprise ... by simply ignoring Gaidar's tight money policies,
trading with each other in IOUs, and conspiring with central bank
Chairman Viktor Gerashchenko to issue 3 million rubles worth of new
credits. They also undermined Gaidar by hoarding hard currency in
Western banks rather than changing it into rubles.
  "But now that they're in control, Chernomyrdin and the industrialists
aren't likely to do to themselves what they did to Gaidar. ...
  " ... Jude Wanniski, president of Polyconomics, Inc. ... argues ...
'Russia ... should lower the ruble price of oil ...' [to return
value to the ruble - also the govt could issue couponless bonds
or sell assets]..."
  " ...[collect debt from 3rd world & repatriate Russian money in
Western banks]
  "If you're looking for a last-minute stocking stuffer, consider
a handful of crisp, 1000-ruble notes ..."

---
From: sergei@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu (Sergei Borodin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Nowogodnij prizyw
Date: 1 Jan 93 20:32:24 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <ewiPwB1w165w@bwalk.dm.com> dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dimitri Vulis) writes:
>Sowetskie \migranty!   Nahalxnee dobiwajtesx welf\ra, fudst\mpow,
>medikejda i wosxmoj programmy!
>
>S nowym godom,

   Kto-zh ty sam, priebysh? Ne to chto ja zadet tvoimi glupymmi
   shutkami - oni ko mne ne otnosjatsja, no - zaebal! 
   K tomu zhe, te emigranty, chto v seti, uzh navernoe ne
   nuzhdajutsja ni v welfare ni v foodstamps. 
   Mozhet zatkneshsja, ubljudok? Ja imeju vvidu,  na etu temu.
   Popizdi lichshe pro komputery - tut ty vrode chego-to 
   ponimaesh, hotja ne mnogo.

  Nadejys', chto nash setevoi pridurok poumneet v novom godu.

 (znaju, znaju - "nadezhdy junoshej pitajut" - no nadejus'
  vse ravno)

 S.B.
From: rob@quasar.genrad.com (Robert S. Wood)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Christmas in Russia
Date: 24 Dec 1992 10:02:21 -0500
Organization: GenRad, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: quasar.genrad.com


My son is 3 years old.  His first three years were spent in an orphanage
in Magnitagorsk.  Would he have had any Christmas celebrations his
previous 3 December 25ths?  If so what is a Russian word that he might
remember?  He could not speak any language when I adopted him in Feb. 92.

			rob@genrad.com
From: ioffe@ivory.bgu.ac.il (Ioffe Nicolay)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: some Soviet emigre restaurant jokes
Date: 26 Dec 92 22:19:39 GMT
Organization: Ben-Gurion University, Beer Sheva, Israel

mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu writes:
: In article <15192.2b35cb0f@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>, viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
: >
: > tO TEBE MUDAKI mARTYNOWY, TO wERBITSKIE STRO^AT ^TO HUJ DRO^AT,
: >
: > Serega
: >
:
: Ia tebe pokazhu mudaka, padlo!  Ty u menia budesh' hui sosat' kak tol'ko
: Ia do vashego vshivogo Ohio doberus'!  (Ia uzhe v puti, kstati govoria).
: Skotina, ty, merzkaia, zhopa neproebnaia, harkota loshadinaia, zalupa
: kozlinaia!  Opiat' vyebyvat'sia vzdumal, huesos?  I zh te morgala
: povykalyvaiu, iajtsa povydergivaiu (esli ostalis' eshcho).
:
: Smotri, u menia, dovystupaesh'sia!!!
:
: Respectfully,
:
: Michael Martynov.



Gospoda Vyznyuk i Martynov - Zerkalo russkoj intelligencii.

Nick.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:11529 talk.politics.soviet:9967 soc.culture.europe:10773
From: iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Ivan A Derzhanski)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: Merry Christmas everyone!
Date: 24 Dec 92 10:32:53 GMT
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK

In article <15221.2b38722f@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec23.145225.22308@polaris.utu.fi>, Olli-Jukka Paloneva <opaloneva@abo.fi> writes:
>> Pozdravljaju Vseh S Novym Godom i Rozhdestvom Hristosa!
>
>This is the worst kind of abuse I ever heard on this list !!!  To
>congratulate this honorable audience with Papist "Christmas"
>especially when Ms. Paloneva is well aware that the bulk of this forum

Which one?  This is going to three groups (see the Newsgroups line).

>are either Jews or Orthodox Christians

Or atheists.  (I know I'm not the only one.)  There may be some Muslims too.
Does the gem of my kill file belong to any religion?

>is unbearable.

I agree completely.  Now I'm kind of used to hearing "Merry Christmas",
and consequently can also live with _s Rozhdestvom Xristovym_ or
_s Reozhdestvom Xrista_, but _s Rozhdestvom Xristosa_, of all things,
is more than I can bear.

By the way, I have the impression that it is not the done thing to say
_S Novym godom_ before the New Year has actually started, or in any case
before 31 December.  What do people think?

-- 
 `D'ye mind tellin me whit the two o ye are gaun oan aboot?' (The Glasgow
Ivan A Derzhanski  (iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk; iad@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu)    Gospel)
* Centre for Cognitive Science,  2 Buccleuch Place,  Edinburgh EH8 9LW,  UK
* Cowan House, Pollock Halls, 18 Holyrood Park Road, Edinburgh EH16 5BD, UK
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Cyrillic Transliteration
From: Dimitri Vulis <DLVGC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Sunday, 27 Dec 1992 14:47:05 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

In article <103072@netnews.upenn.edu>, el@netnews.upenn.edu (El Smith) says:
>
>Zrastve,
Zdravstvujte!
>1) What is the arrangement of keys on a Russian typewriter/terminal?  Is that
>the arrangement that you use?  What's the best way for an English-speaking
>typist?
There are 2 'standard' layouts: one, promulgated in the Soviet GOST, and
found, among other places, on most Russian typewriters (Soviet and IBM-ma
de) goes like this:
i kratkoe, tse, u, ka, ye, en...
another, phonetic layout, developed by the American Association of
Teachers of Slavic Languages, or some such, goes:
ya ve ye er te yery u i o pe ...
The complete tables can be found in the archives of the RusTeX-L mailing
list on UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU.
>2) Is there anything close to a standard for letter-for-letter
>transliteration of Cyrillic into ASCII (or, less desirably, extended ASCII)
>characters?  And what is it?  How is this being done in Russia?
>A correspondence of ASCII (or less-desirably-but-probably-necessarily,
>extended ASCII) codes to Cyrillic would be very helpful.
You seem to be a bit confused about the difference between 'Russian' and
'Cyrillic'. I assume you're interested in Russian, and not, say
Ukrainian.  The 'standard' way to render Russian in ASCII, using
1-1 correspondence is the so called KOI-7 from the '74 GOST. In it,
a is a, b is b, ve is w (!), g is g... zhe is v, i kratkoe is j,
sha is [/{, shcha is ]/}, soft sign is x,
etc. (Again, see the archive for the complete table).
As for 'extended ASCII', that is, byte values between 128 and 255,
there are 3 common ways to render Russian, none of which is prevailing
enough to be called 'standard'.
1. KOI-8 from the '74 GOST, used by RELCOM and all the Russian Unix/
demos hackers.  This is just KOI-7
with the high bit set.
2. KOI-8 from the '84(?) GOST, same as ISO 8859-5. A-YA from 0xB0 to
0xCF, a-ya from 0xD0 to 0xEF. Number sign etc sitting in the F column.
Used on VAXen etc.
3. Bryabrin's al'ternativnyj variant: just like #2, except columns
B--D are shifted to 8--A and B--D are used for graphic characters from
IBM PC's code page 437.  Used primarily on PCs.
IBM mainframes and compatibles use an EBCDIC-based code which has
nothing to do with ASCII.
Beware: many mailers strip the 8th bit, don't use extended ASCII on
Internet.
>3) Last but not least, do any of these schemes provide for representing
>stressed syllables?  Or at least /jo/.
No, there's no convention for representing stressed vowels or yo. Yo
is present in #2 and ISO 8858-5 but at different positions :).  Some
folks use $ to represent yo in KOI-7 and put a * before a vowel to
indicate stress:
kak*ogo h*uq q tr*a~u swo$ wr*emq na *tu hujn*`?

Good news: 'soon' we'll all be using Unicode, the 16-bit code which
provides for all possible Cyrillic characters (including Ukrainian
and Serbian), stressed vowels, and all other goodies.

Dimitri
Disclaimer: CUNY has no idea what I'm talking about.
From: mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Cyrillic transliteration
Date: 22 Dec 92 17:36:31 GMT
Organization: University of Scranton

The discussion of transliteration of Cyrilic characters
on the Net made me put the following list of transliterated
Russian letters, which I borrowed from some Oxford dictionary
and use on my job in a Russian library:

(in alphabetical order from A to IA):

a, b, v, g, d, e, io (or e), zh, z, i, i (or j), k, l, m, n, o, p, 
r, s, t, u, f, kh, ts, ch, sh, shch, ", y, ', e, iu, ia.

Michael Martynov.

P.S. Please, don't make up a discussion over this list.  I don't say that
it's perfect, but I use it and find it useful.
From: thietaniemi@cc.helsinki.fi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Another zagadka.
Date: 26 Dec 92 10:10:29 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <1hfefoINN4ef@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, exs16@po.CWRU.Edu (Eugene Shumulinsky) writes:
> 
> Here is another zagadka for all of you. I could not solve it and could
> not locate ther person who posted it so maybe someone in this group can
> solve it:
> 
> 
>    Well there is this one guy who wants to get into this city. To get into
> the city he has to go through one of the two IDENTICAL gates. Only 1 GATE
> leads to the city but it's impossible to tell since they are identical.
> 'Podle' (near) each gate there is a guard. So there is a total of two
> guards who are twins and they are exactly IDENTICAL. The only difference is
> that one of them always tells the TRUTH and the other always LIES.
> 
> What question must the guy ask (only 1 question) to get into the city?
> 
> This is not as easy as it seems...
> 


"What would your twin brother say if I asked him whether his gate leads
to the city?"


The answer given is always INCORRECT.

with best regards
Tapani Hietaniemi
From: dharkins@papillon.ucsd.edu (Dan Harkins)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: bug in the program
Date: 29 Dec 92 00:42:50 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: papillon.ucsd.edu

I know Hasan Mutlu is a real person because I briefly talked to him on the
telephone but I'm having doubts about Serdar Argic. Man or machine?

In <9212222302@zuma.UUCP> he (it?) writes:

> Out of the frying pan, into the spilt milk is more this clown.

Ouch! Battle of the cliches, o.k., but "... more this clown."????
Just what is that supposed to mean? 
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu
Subject: Re: BUYING RUBLES and more
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 05:26:18 GMT

In article <15226.2b39ba89@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>, viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
> In article <1992Dec24.104145.439@zooid.guild.org>, adam@zooid.guild.org (Adam Lawrence Salter) writes:
>>In article <15205.2b371368@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>,
>> viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>>>In article <1h6b56INNnni@agate.berkeley.edu>, robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:
>>>> I am collecting foreign currencies....if interested, please contact me
>>>> by e-mail.                            
>>>
>>> And me is collecting local one as well...if interested, please contact me
>>>by e-mail.                            
>>>
>>>Serega
>> 
>>   Well, I'll sell you a mint condition $100 bill for $1000. This may seem
>> expensive but I'm sure you know what collectors will pay for items as rare as
>> this! ;->
>>                                                         adam
> 
>   I couldn't find proper words to express my limitless gratitude
> for this royal offer. Sure I would be able to struck a deal with you.
> Send me your $100 bill and I promise it will occupy a honorable place
> in my collection. In my turn I will order $1000 in valuable goods
> be delivered to your premises no later than you hit the bucket.
> 
> Serega

IF anyone wants to buy rubles, I can find the address of a business or two or
more who buy and sell them all the time. Nome is one of the few places  were
you can buy and sell rubles also where the Ruble has some value, more than
justa tourist curio.. After all Nome is one of the places where Russians can
enter the US with a minumum of paperwork. After all many peopl ein Siberia
have relations either in Nome or on St. Lawrence Island or Diomede Island..
There is a reason why they call them Siberian Yupiks..Providenya and
Magedan(sp) have large Siberian Yupik Populations and so does St. Lawrence
Island.. (Eskimo Group)_..


Michael Adams
Alias: Morgoth/Ghost Wheel 
nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu
Nome, Alaska..
From: gdr@acs.bu.edu (Dmitry Goldenberg)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Boris Grebenschikov
Date: 22 Dec 92 02:29:40 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: gdr@acs.bu.edu


In article <1992Dec20.001331.18711@husc3.harvard.edu>, verbit@coolidge.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky) writes:
|> In article <LEONID.92Dec19131458@tuna.uchicago.edu> leonid@tuna.uchicago.edu (Leonid Andreev) writes:
|> 
|> >Really? I did not know he used so much lyrics, written by
|> >other people, he did not even know who they are. 
|> 
|> 	I rather meant that he was accustomed to forget the lyrics
|> 	on the concert and to come up with something 
|> 	improvized. It was funny, especially when
|> 	he tried to sing Tsoi's "Trolleibus, Kotoryi
|> 	Idet Na Vostok" (The Bus Boung East) and 
|> 	forgot the lyrics...
|> 

Well, Bob did use a lot of lyrics written by other people, as well as often
perform numerous classic rock numbers (e.g. by Stones, Bob Marley etc.).
As for other people's lyrics, a lot of stuff got incorporated into Bob's
'system of images' sometimes consciously and sometimes not (because all the
aquariumists listened to so much Western rock that at times they used a
word, concept, image, or phrase not even knowing where exactly it came from).

For instance, BG himself was unable to explain the phrase "It seems like my
rever has gone insane" in the song called 'Silent Cinematograph'; he only said that probably it has something to do with "some Western rock song lyrics."

Also some of you great sages probably noticed that the phrase "Take me to the river, put me into water" is quoted directly from the Talking Heads' hit
'Take me to the river' (I'm not sure if this is the right name, though). The
Talking Heads' song... was borrowed from some don't-remember-his-name black blues
composer. I personally wouldn't call this plagiarism on the part of BG - rather, conscious orunconscious borrowing or even simply quoting.

Such allusions actually serve two good purposes:

- expose the 'ignorant masses' to the key words/images of Western rock culture
  (e.g. I personally knew nothing about the rastafari culture until I heard
  Aquarium's 'Jah Will Give Us Everything', 'Captain Africa', and 'Aristocrat').

- give the joy of recognition (a somewhat conspiratory feeling) to those who
  know what the reference is made to.

One more word on the 'plagiarism' bullshit: nobody cursed Kinchev for quoting
Aquarium's 'Misha From the City of Squeaking Statues' in the end of his (lousy)
song 'New Method' on 'The Sixth Ranger'album...  So... what is the problem with "quoting Brian Eno and David Byrne" (to quote from BG himself)?


All right, now you can bit me with stones. Will be glad to see some responses.

Dixi.

- D. 

 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: lion@netcom.com (carl loeber)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: The future of RUSSIA: 4 alternatives (from the Finnish point of view)
Date: 30 Dec 92 04:28:59 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

I'm wondering what is the variation in alternatives proposed in the
parliment and in the press.  Is there a feeling that there can be a 
middle way, to have free markets and enterprise without having the
corporate dominance and centralization of control of space and natural
resources, as seems to be the case in the USA?

Do Russians realize that there is little genuine representative
government here, and are they being careful to prevent a change
to plutacracy?
(plutocracy)

I remember that the last election law of the USSR looked very good from the 
point of having open elections, without the weight of private sponsors
as in the West.  They outlawed private funding of the politicians, and p
provided by complete public operation of the elections,  something I
will be working to promote here.

Carl
San Jose
The Democracy Project
From: opaloneva@abo.fi (Olli-Jukka Paloneva)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: The future of RUSSIA: 4 alternatives (from the Finnish point
     of view)
Date: 3 Jan 93 14:35:06 GMT
     <1992Dec30.135650.1@cc.helsinki.fi>
     <1993Jan1.175046.5788@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <1i4cilINN98u@sauna.cs.hut.fi>
Organization: Turku School Of Economics
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

In article <1993Jan1.175046.5788@vela.acs.oakland.edu> BRIGGS DENNIS M,
dmbriggs@vela.acs.oakland.edu writes:
>I hope Russians realize that there is a great diversity of opinion in
>the USA, and that Carl is not speaking for all of us!
>
>--Mike Briggs

Does Americans really believe in their democracy, which
is limited by heterogenic media, heterogenity of
education, lacking knowledge of USA and outside
world, race-discrimination.

Why only the freedom of speach is enough to determine
democracy? Noboby listens you anyway even if understood!

It is easier for the US to start WW3 than change society.
Roosevelt did a little, Kennedy was murdered and Clinton...!!!?

Who the hell cares American democracy if it is worthless!

God Bless Bill Clinton and his trial!

Olli
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: oleg@netcom.com (Oleg Kiselev)
Subject: Kazaks?  Weren't they killing turks? Re:    . .
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 06:47:40 GMT

In article <AAtGuEh8i7@leonid.stavropol.su> andrey@leonid.stavropol.su writes:
>              !

I wander what it will mean for the millions of innocent Tatars, Turks and
various other names for whatever it is Mutlu is defending?
-- 
Oleg Kiselev at home			...use the header to find the path
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: Adam Lawrence Salter <adam@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: BUYING RUBLES
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 06:42:31 GMT
	<15226.2b39ba89@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>

  In article <15226.2b39ba89@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>,
  viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:

>In article <1992Dec24.104145.439@zooid.guild.org>, adam@zooid.guild.org (Adam Lawrence Salter) writes:
>>In article <15205.2b371368@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>,
>> viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>>>In article <1h6b56INNnni@agate.berkeley.edu>, robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:
>>>> I am collecting foreign currencies....if interested, please contact me
>>>> by e-mail.                            
>>>
>>> And me is collecting local one as well...if interested, please contact me
>>>by e-mail.                            
>>>
>>>Serega
>> 
>>   Well, I'll sell you a mint condition $100 bill for $1000. This may seem
>> expensive but I'm sure you know what collectors will pay for items as rare as
>> this! ;->
>>                                                         adam
>
>  I couldn't find proper words to express my limitless gratitude
>for this royal offer. Sure I would be able to struck a deal with you.
>Send me your $100 bill and I promise it will occupy a honorable place
>in my collection. In my turn I will order $1000 in valuable goods
>be delivered to your premises no later than you hit the bucket.
>
>Serega

  Hmm, I've thought about it and I'll agree on the condition that you will
take my word for the fact that I am quite dead.

                       
                                                            adam
From: dima@maths.uwa.oz.au (Dima Pasechnik)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Tourist Borodin (was: Refugee Martynov)
Date: 26 Dec 1992 05:26:27 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: madvax.maths.uwa.oz.au

A tourist Sergei Borodin writes:
>  
>  
>In article <1992Dec22.115542.1@jaguar.uofs.edu> mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu writes:
>>In article <102844@netnews.upenn.edu>, sergei@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu (Sergei Borodin) writes:

>>  My situation
>>was under a category "bednye rodstvenniki", which was "created" by a stupid
>>law about some peace of paper from relatives, staying there, that I don't have
>>any financial obligations toward them.  This "law" was created after 1986, 
>>to stop at least a part of emigrants, because the autority couldn't use
>>their "old tricks" any more.

>  I was not able to comprehend this part of your story.
>  It's kinda tough to imagine a "poor boy" who has
>  financial obligations towards relatives abroad.
>  I guess, it must be vice versa.
>  However, the law itself is not stupid and, I beleive,
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>  was initiated by the country of invitation in order
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
An interesting example of sovok's law-making (and sovok's law-understanding).

Actually if a person wished to emigrate FROM sovok he had to obtain
his/her close relatives's in sovok signatures that they wouldn't need
him/her to feed them.

[......]

> success.  I'll tell you, boy, not everybody wants to emigrate,
> some people like to travel. And I tell you one more thing 
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> -- I haven't spent a single minute neither in OVIR nor in the
> US Embassy. Did I make you jealous?

Surely. Where you've hidden your parachute? And codes, KGB sertificate,
etc?
Oh sorry, you are just travelling! You are paynig your money for it, are
you? 

>>>>Michael Martynov.
> 

[.....]

>  Which one has, tell me. I'm working in a medical center which deals

[.....]

Oh, sorry, you are not tourist. You've got your passport from something
like UVS AH CCCP (Dept. of Foreign Connections, Academy of Sciences).
It's interesting to know how many meat cans you've brought from sovok?
Surely you'll spend all the money you earn for philantropy, will you?

Oh no, you are simply much more 'hitrogopy' than that poor guy M.M.. 
You'll just apply for residency in
US, without dealing with OVIR and US embassy.



>  S.B.

D.P.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.europe