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Info-Hams Digest            Tue, 15 Dec 92       Volume 92 : Issue 1315

Today's Topics:
                     Clever phonetics wanted WN3K
                         Crystal Radio Kits?
                          DTMF Mic Questions
                Guide to the Personal Radio Newsgroups
        Index to the rec.radio.amateur.* Supplemental Archives
                         INFO-HAMS SUBSCRIBE
         Looking for sources of low-cost headset/microphones
                   Postage for Russian QSLs: Help!
                     Returned mail: Host unknown
             Software Systems Consulting PC Slow Scan 5.0
                            Yaesu FT-890AT

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:09:12 GMT
From: swrinde!gatech!udel!louie!pecan.cns.udel.edu!penneys@network.UCSD.EDU
Subject: Clever phonetics wanted WN3K
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Please excuse me for copying someone else's great idea.

We Need Three ..........

I've tried all manner of phonetics. Got any ideas?

Tnx   Bob WN3K  FRC

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Date: 15 Dec 92 14:53:27 GMT
From: usc!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!cis.ksu.edu!mac@network.UCSD.EDU
Subject: Crystal Radio Kits?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

johnl@microware.com (John Lengeling) writes:
>Is it possible to receive something other than AM on a crystal radio?

CW and SSB, if you can get your crystal to oscillate.
(Technical literature says this can be done, but is difficult.)
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:33:25 GMT
From: gatech!rpi!uwm.edu!linac!att!mcdchg!mcdphx!schuch@uunet.uu.net
Subject: DTMF Mic Questions
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

I'm looking for a hand-held mic with a built-in DTMF pad for a project 
but I'm not sure how they work. What I NEED is to be able to send the
DTMF tones out the mic cable WITHOUT keying the radio.

So, does pressing one of the DTMF keys key the radio?
Does this very by model?
If it does not key the radio, are the tones available on the audio
out wire with the radio un-keyed?


Tnx,
John N7XVS




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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 12:03:12 GMT
From: europa.asd.contel.com!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.unomaha.edu!cwis!pschleck@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Guide to the Personal Radio Newsgroups
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Posted-By: auto-faq script
Archive-name: personal-radio-intro
Revision: 1.2 10/03/92 05:36:06

(Note:  The following is reprinted with the permission of the author.)

This message describes the rec.radio.amateur.*, rec.radio.cb, and
rec.radio.swap newsgroups. It is intended to serve as a guide for the new
reader on what to find where. Questions and comments may be directed to the
author, Jay Maynard, K5ZC, by Internet electronic mail at
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu. This message was last changed on 3 June 1992.

History
=======

Way back when, before there was a Usenet, the Internet hosted a mailing list
for hams, called (appropriately enough) INFO-HAMS. Ham radio discussions
were held on the mailing list, and sent to the mailboxes of those who had
signed up for it. When the Usenet software was created, and net news as we
now know it was developed, a newsgroup was created for hams: net.ham-radio.
The mailing list and the newsgroup were gatewayed together, eventually.

As the net grew, and as packet radio came into vogue, packet discussion began
to dominate other topics in the group and on the list. This resulted in the
logical solution: a group was created to hold the packet discussion, and
another corresponding mailing list was created as well: net.ham-radio.packet
and PACKET-RADIO, respectively.

These two groups served for several years, and went through Usenet's Great
Renaming essentially unchanged, moving from net.ham-radio[.packet] to
rec.ham-radio[.packet]. Readership and volume grew with the rest of the
network.

The INFO-HAMS mailing list was originally run from a US Army computer at
White Sands Missile Range, SIMTEL20. There were few problems with this
arrangement, but one was that the system was not supposed to be used for
commercial purposes. Since one of hams' favorite pastimes is swapping
gear, it was natural for hams to post messages about equipment for sale
to INFO-HAMS/rec.ham-radio. This ran afoul of SIMTEL20's no-commercial-use
restriction, and after some argument, a group was created specifically
for messages like that: rec.ham-radio.swap. This group wasn't gatewayed to
a mailing list, thus avoiding problems.

While all this was happening, other folks wanted to discuss other aspects
of the world of radio than the personal communications services. Those
folks created the rec.radio.shortwave and rec.radio.noncomm newsgroups,
and established the precedent of the rec.radio.* hierarchy, which in turn
reflected Usenet's overall trend toward a hierarchical name structure.

The debate between proponents of a no-code ham radio license and its
opponents grew fierce and voluminous in late 1989 and 1990. Eventually,
both sides grew weary of the debate, and those who had not been involved
even more so. A proposal for a newsgroup dedicated to licensing issues
failed. A later proposal was made for a group that would cover the many
recurring legal issues discussions. During discussion of the latter
proposal, it became clear that it would be desirable to fit the ham radio
groups under the rec.radio.* hierarchy. A full-blown reorganization was
passed by Usenet voters in January 1991, leading to the structure we now use.

The Current Groups
==================

I can hear you asking, "OK, so this is all neat history, but what does it
have to do with me now?" The answer is that the history of each group has
a direct bearing on what the group is used for, and what's considered
appropriate where.

The easy one is rec.radio.amateur.misc. It is what rec.ham-radio was renamed
to during the reorganization. Any message that's not more appropriate in one
of the other groups belongs here, from contesting to DX to ragchewing on VHF
to information on becoming a ham.

The group rec.radio.amateur.packet is for discussions related to (surprise!)
packet radio. This doesn't have to be the common two-meter AX.25 variety
of packet radio, either; some of the most knowledgable folks in radio digital
communications can be found here, and anything in the general area is welcome.

The swap group is now rec.radio.swap. This recognizes a fact that became
evident shortly after the original group was formed: Hams don't just swap
ham radio gear, and other folks besides hams swap ham equipment. If you have
radio equipment, or test gear, or computer stuff that hams would be
interested in, here's the place. Equipment wanted postings belong here too.
Discussions about the equipment generally don't; if you wish to discuss
a particular posting with the buyer, email is a much better way to do it,
and the other groups are the place for public discussions. There is now a
regular posting with information on how to go about buying and selling items
in rec.radio.swap; please refer to it before you post there.

The reorganization added two groups to the list, one of which is
rec.radio.amateur.policy. This group was created as a place for all the
discussions that seem to drag on interminably about the many rules,
regulations, legalities, and policies that surround amateur radio, both
existing and proposed. The neverending no-code debate goes here, as does
the New Jersey scanner law, the legality of ordering a pizza on the
autopatch, what a bunch of rotten no-goodniks the local frequency
coordinating body is, and so on.

The other added group is rec.radio.cb. This is the place for all discussion
about the Citizens' Band radio service. Such discussions have been very
inflammatory in rec.ham-radio in the past; please do not cross-post to both
rec.radio.cb and rec.radio.amateur.* unless the topic is genuinely of interest
to both hams and CBers - and very few topics are.

The rec.radio.amateur.misc, .packet, and .policy groups are available by
Internet electronic mail in digest format; send a mail message containing
"help" on a line by itself to listserv@ucsd.edu for details. You can also post
to rec.radio.swap by sending email to rec-radio-swap@ucbvax.berkeley.edu; if
you do it this way, be sure to include an address for responses by electronic
mail, as the gateway does not automatically do so.  

A Note on Crossposting
======================

Please do not crosspost messages to two or more groups unless there is genuine
interest in both groups in the topic being discussed, and when you do, please
include a header line of the form "Followup-To: group.name" in your article's
headers (before the first blank line). This will cause followups to your
article to go to the group listed in the Followup-To: line. If you wish
to have replies to go to you by email, rather than be posted, use the word
"poster" instead of the name of a group. Such a line appears in the headers
of this article.

-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by a .sig virus.
"Liking clean systems and hating buggy ones is about as controversial as
      preferring a warm puppy to the cholera bacillus." -- Tom Neff

--
73, Paul W. Schleck, KD3FU

pschleck@unomaha.edu

Celebrating 60 years of the Univ. of Maryland ARA - W3EAX (1933-1993)

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 12:02:34 GMT
From: europa.asd.contel.com!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.unomaha.edu!cwis!pschleck@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Index to the rec.radio.amateur.* Supplemental Archives
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Posted-By: auto-faq script
Archive-name: ham-archives-index

The following is a list of informational files for this newsgroup
available via anonymous FTP from ftp.cs.buffalo.edu (currently at IP
number 128.205.32.9).  

Questions to bowen@cs.buffalo.edu

1750m.band		- misc info on the 1750m band
ampr_coordinators	- coordinators for packet IP addresses
antenna_refs		- references for articles about antenna designs
arrl-logo.ps		- ARRL logo in PostScript format
arrl_bib		- bibliographies from ARRL literature (ASCII format)
arrl_digital_minutes	- Minutes of the ARRL committee on digital comm.
arrl_fo_jobs		- descriptions of some ARRL Field Organization jobs
arrl_info_service	- announcement of the ARRLs trial information service
cal_pd_freq		- California police frequencies
callbook.tar.Z		- sources for the marvin callsign server v1.3
canadian.Z		- Canadian ham database in FCC format
carpet.loop.2		- Antenna for apartments and small spaces
clubcalls.Z		- database of US ham clubs
comb6.zip		- HF Propagation Predication program
docket_91-36		- information regarding the proposed scanner regs
dxcc-k2di		- ARRL DXCC country list
element_credit		- rules about VE credit for earliers exams
elmers_admin		- information about the elmers list (see below)
elmers_list		- list of elmers on the network
exam_ops		- info on exams and exam opportunities
faq_ham_1		- frequently asked questions about ham radio (pts 1)
faq_ham_2		- frequently asked questions about ham radio (pts 2)
faq_ham_3		- frequently asked questions about ham radio (pts 3)
faq_packet		- frequently asked questions about packet radio
faq_shortwave		- frequently asked questions about shortwave
fft.com			- EGA/VGA DOS command for spectral display (QST 1/92)
ffth.com		- Hercules DOS command for spectral display (QST 1/92)
field_day_92		- field day rules for 1992
florida_antenna		- Florida State antenna law info
guide2newsgroups	- description of USENET newsgroups dedicated to radio
ham_sat_sum		- summary of information needed to get on satellite
hams_on_usenet		- list of ham operators and e-mail addresses on the net
hamstacks		- information about the question pool stacks
handicap_waiver		- info on obtaining a handicapped test waiver
hf_rigs			- QST reviews of available HF rigs
ht_info			- general information about commercial hand helds
intro_to_swl		- info for aspiring short wave listeners
intro_to_scanners	- info for aspiring scanner listeners
lead_acid_batteries	- essay on lead-acid batteries
license_plates		- guide to ham calls on license plates
logos			- PostScript logos for various ham organizations
mail_order		- a database of electronic mail order shops
manufacturers		- names and addresses of ham gear manufacturers
new_packeteers		- helpful essays for new packeteers
newcomers		- tips and hints for those new to amateur radio
packet_clubs		- organizations you can get more packet info from
packet_gateways		- list of gateways from packet to Internet
packet_misc		- miscellaneous packet info
packet_software		- list of packet software versions
phone_bbs_list		- phone BBSs for ham related issues/software
pio_handbook		- ARRL Public Information Officer's Handbook
pr_docket_92-136	- text of FCC PR Docket 92-136
qsl_bureau1		- information about the ARRL QSL bureau
qsl_bureau2		- "what should I do if" list for the QSL bureau
qst_prodrev		- index of ARRL product reviews in QST
repeater_map_proj	- description of Electronic Repeater Mapping Project
rfi_tips		- good posting about RFI
sol_geo_data		- desciption of daily solar geophysical broadcasts
sol_terra_terms		- glossary of solar-terrestrial terms
sstv_wefax_info		- general help for SSTV and WEFAX users
usenet_purchases	- tips on buying and selling via USENET

For readers of this newsgroup both new and experienced, these files are
a de-facto "Required Reading List" to provide definitive answers and
pointers to other sources for questions that come up in this forum.

This is also your archive, so any additional articles, guides, or small
PostScript graphics that you feel would enhance this collection are most
welcome.  Submit to Devon via his E-mail address above.

Additional archives out there that have /pub/ham-radio directories are
encouraged to "mirror" these files to provide redundant storage for these
documents.  Some of these sites (which may or may not mirror
ftp.cs.buffalo.edu) include:

ucsd.edu                        128.54.16.1     /hamradio
nic.funet.fi                    128.214.6.100   /pub/ham
csseq.cs.tamu.edu               128.194.2.20    /ham-radio
suntan.tandem.com               130.252.10.8    /hamradio
col.hp.com                      15.255.240.16   /packet
talos.cs.buffalo.edu            128.205.32.9    /pub/ham-radio
hamster.business.uwo.ca         129.100.22.100  /hamster/ham
                                                /hamster/tcpip
                                                /hamster/mods
                                                /hamster/view
vax.cs.pitt.edu                 130.49.2.1      /pub/arrl8
                                                /pub/ka9q
                                                /pub/ncpa
                                                /pub/tnc2
brolga.cc.uq.oz.au              130.102.128.5   /pub/ka9q
tomcat.gsfc.nasa.gov            128.183.10.100  /public
helios.tn.cornell.edu           128.84.241.2    /pub
wuarchive.wustl.edu             128.252.135.4   /mirrors/msdos/hamradio
                                                /mirrors/msdos/packet
                                                /mirrors/msdos/ka9q-tcpip
                                                /mirrors/cpm/hamradio
                                                /mirrors/cpm/packet
                                                /mirrors/misc/hamradio
                                                /mirrors/misc/packet
                                                /mirrors/misc/ka9q-tcpip
gatekeeper.dec.com              16.1.0.2        /pub/net/ka9q
sun.soe.clarkson.edu            128.153.12.3    /pub/ka9q
sics.se                         192.16.123.90   /archive/packet
                                                /pub/packet-incoming
sabrina.dei.unipd.it            147.162.2.106   /pub/hamradio
uhunix2.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu         128.171.44.7    /incoming/ham-radio
caticsuf.cati.csufresno.edu     129.8.100.15    /pub/ham-radio
ftp.waseda.ac.jp                133.9.1.32      /pub/toumon/ham-radio
garfield.catt.ncsu.edu          152.1.43.23     /pub/hamradio
plan9.njit.edu                  128.235.1.10    /pub/hamradio
sunee.uwaterloo.ca              129.97.128.196  /pub/radio
grivel.une.edu.au               129.180.4.7     /pub/ham-radio
uxc.cso.uiuc.edu                128.174.5.50    /pub/ham-radio
iraun1.ira.uka.de               129.13.10.90    /pub/ham-radio
nic.switch.ch                   130.59.1.40     /software/hamradio
                                                /software/mac/ham-radio
iesd.auc.dk                     130.225.48.4    /ham-radio
akutaktak.andrew.cmu.edu        128.2.35.1      /aw0g (softkiss-mac)
??????????                      129.69.162.1    /pub (login as ftp
                                                      pkt cluster,usa callbook)
gandalf.umcs.maine.edu          130.111.112.21  /pub/ham-radio # ls -l NO !)
PIT-MANAGER.MIT.EDU             18.172.1.27     /pub/usenet/news.answers
tamu.edu                        128.194.15.32   /pc-sig
 
Questions about FTP mirroring and access to appropriate software should
be directed to me, or do an Archie search on the keyword "mirror."

For those without FTP access (and only those without FTP access,
please), there is an FTP mail server at ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com (IP
16.1.0.1).  Send the word "HELP" to this address for more information.

Additional documents on Usenet and other newsgroups may be obtained
from pit-manager.mit.edu (IP 18.172.1.127) via anonymous FTP or via
mail server (send the word "HELP" to mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu).

The American Radio Relay League has recently made available a
mail-server to distribute many of their informational documents in
electronic form.  Send E-mail to info@arrl.org with "HELP" in the
message body for more information.

Thanks to Devon Bowen, KA2NRC, for providing diskspace and maintaining
these valuable archives, as well as all the authors who wrote and submitted
the information contained in them.

73, Paul W. Schleck, KD3FU

pschleck@unomaha.edu

Celebrating 60 years of the Univ. of Maryland ARA - W3EAX (1933-1993)

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Date: 15 Dec 92 13:22:44 GMT
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Date: 15 Dec 1992 07:50 EST  
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!eagle!ariel.lerc.nasa.gov!tidedu@network.UCSD.EDU
Subject: Looking for sources of low-cost headset/microphones
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Hello All;
I am in the process of designing a multi-station communications
system and I am in need ot obtaining some fairly low-cost 
headset/microphones. So far, the ones I've looked at are the 
ones designed for the broadcast industry and they are very 
expensive ($100 - $200 or more ... each)

Is there a supplier which provides these for Amateur Radio Use 
(or similar) at $50 each or less ??? 

Thank You Very Much !!!

Tim

W. Tim Dedula                        Internet: 
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Mail Stop 77-3                       tidedu@mars.lerc.nasa.gov
21000 BrookPark Road                 aa252@cleveland.freenet.edu
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Phone (216) 433-3668

The National Aeronautics and Space Administration: Science and
Technology ... for the Benefit of ALL Mankind !!!

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:57:41 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!think.com!unixland!sharon@network.UCSD.EDU
Subject: Postage for Russian QSLs: Help!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

lkay@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (leonard kay) writes:

>Can anyone who has sent direct QSLs lately to anywhere in the former
>USSR tell me what they used for return postage (if anything)?
>I haven't sent a direct QSL there in about a year and recently 
>worked a UF8 and a 4K2 both with UA9 managers.

>I've heard rumours from friends ranging from 'everything gets 
>opened up and pilfered' to 'direct works OK, just don't
>trust the buros'.

>Anyone wanna please give me some hard facts?

Several friends of mine in Russia have said that the bureau is not
working very well these days. One ham told me he no longer receives
any cards from the bureau.

The problem with the buro is that the government no longer funds it,
and there is no alternative source of funding at the moment. Meanwhile,
the cost of postage (like everything else over there) has gone up
ASTRONOMICALLY -- overseas letters that used to be 50 kopeks (half a ruble)
are, last I received a letter from Russia, now *125 rubles.*

Yes, you can expect that virtually *every* piece of mail from the West
into Russia will be opened, and valuables stolen. If you want the card
very much, you might consider trying a registered letter with IRCs inside;
I don't know if that will work or not. A good approach is to wait until
you know someone going over there, and ask him/her to mail your card
in a Russian envelope from Russia. Such a letter is much less likely to
be opened and inspected for valuables, although you still risk the
general inefficiency of the Russian postal system.

IRCs just put in a regular letter and mailed from the West are very
likely to get stolen.

73, Sharon KC1YR  

-- 
Sharon Machlis Gartenberg
Framingham, MA  USA
email: sharon@unixland.natick.ma.us   or   uunet!think.com!unixland!sharon

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Date: 15 Dec 92 08:30:00 GMT
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Info-Hams Digest            Tue, 15 Dec 92       Volume 92 : Issue 1314

Today's Topics:
                           2m rig in Europe
                              ARRL Logo
                    Clever Phonetics Needed--WK3C
                              thanks...

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policies or positions of any party.  Your mileage may vary.  So there.
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Date: 15 Dec 92 10:43:39 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!brunel!cs90nrs@uunet.uu.net
Subject: 2m rig in Europe
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Kevin Purcell, Rho (a-kevinp@microsoft.COM) wrote:
: I'd like to see what replies you get. Regarding frequencies its no 
: problem and if your gogvernment requires in band transmit only (144-146 
: in Region 1) then this can offten be taken care of by adding or 
: removing a couple of diodes. More of a problem is getting 1750Hz 
: toneburst for European repeaters (nobody uses CTSCS over there). On 
: some models with optional CTSCS then its either or with a european 
: toneburst, but most modering rings have sub-audible tones built in. I 
: suspect that they have 1750Hz toneburst in there too. The front panel 
: is often slightly different between A and E modles to account for these 
: differences.

 In the UK, it's not an offence to have rigs that go out of band, only to
 do it, so no problem there.

 In most cities and elsewhere too, you'll find that repeaters can be
 accessed using CTCSS. In some areas you can link repeaters using DTMF.

: Anybody got a 1750 toneburst out of a US model 2m handheld. How did you do it?
 
 Use the vocal method - whistle. You'd be surprised at how easy it easy to
 generate a 1750Hz tone whistle.

 73 Nick, g7ens
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Date: 14 Dec 92 17:34:00 GMT
From: usc!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!spool.mu.edu!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ncoast!flbbs!larry.mittman@network.UCSD.EDU
Subject: ARRL Logo
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

 On 12-14-92 JEFF BROWN wrote to ALL... 
 
 JB> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc 
 JB> From: edjcb@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Jeff Brown) 
 JB> Subject: ARRL Logo 
 JB> Message-ID: <11DEC199208341960@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov> 
 JB> Date: 11 Dec 1992 08:34 EST   
 JB>  
 JB> I'm looking for the ARRL Logo in TIFF, GIF, or PCX format. 
 JB> Anyone help?  Thanks & 73. 
 JB>  
 JB> Jeff Brown WB2RUZ 
 JB> edjcb@scivax.lerc.nasa.gov 
There is a "zip" file on Cleveland Hamnet BBS (216-942-6382) named 
HAMPIX.ZIP. It contains the ARRL, ARES, and SSC PCX. 
 
 
..... OFFLINE 1.42 *               ... 73 de N8MGU (Magoo, by George!) 

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 09:36:52 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!ringer!lonestar.utsa.edu!sbooth@network.UCSD.EDU
Subject: Clever Phonetics Needed--WK3C
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <#m#@byu.edu> haymoree@bones (Edward Haymore) writes:
>flloyd@l1-a.West.Sun.COM (Fred Lloyd [Phoenix SE]) writes:
>:
>: Cute phonetics are a regular peeve of mine.  Most people don't realize
>: that they're not legal for the purposes of ID-ing.
>
>Where's THAT in the regs?
>
An ARRL book I bought back in June '89 has this prohibition mentioned.
BTW, I had purchased the book and code tapes to pursue a Novice license, but
was discouraged after reading a book on the FCC regs, about the code-only
restrictions placed on Novices thru General class Hams.  No offense to CW
users intended.  What's the latest on the no-code situation?   Simon

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 10:03:50 GMT
From: usc!rpi!think.com!spool.mu.edu!agate!pasteur!web-3d.berkeley.edu!c60c-3gi@network.UCSD.EDU
Subject: thanks...
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

I just wanted to thank all of you nice netters out there who answered the 
endless questions I had about cb radio and driving... :)

here is what I plan to do:

After Wed., when my finals are finally done and over with, I am going to
shop around at K-Mart, Price Club, Best, and such places.  But here is
what I basically have in mind:

	(1) get an external antenna that clips on to the trunk lid.  I looked
	    at one closely at Radio Shack today and fodun that it clips onto
	    the trunk lid with two hex screws.  I think if I put a piece of
	    rubber or cloth or something, that will give me a secure fit 
	    without leaving any marks.  (if someone has an opinion against
	    this, please email me back!)

	(2) get a Radio Shack TRC-479 (or equivalent from other place) and
   	    put that in my car, connecting the power source to the cigarette
	    adapter.  The RS is a 40 channel cb (I don't know the watt, I 
	    think its 4) mobile that comes with internal speakers and
	    external mike for 50 bucks.

with the two of these should run me about 80 bucks, and the for two pairs,
160 bucks.  kinda hefty, but I think its ok.  I am still considering just
putting on a external antenna to my 3 channel 3 watt tranciever and that
will just run me about 60 buck for two antennas, and about another 20 bucks
for other accessories, which is 80 bucks...half the price.  Is 40 channels
worth it?  I will think about it.

one last question, the trunk lid antenna.  does it fit onto the hood instead?
I also have a station wagon which in the future, I think I will need to 
fit the antenna on there, but it doesn't have a trunk since its a sation 
wagon!

thanks all!

---Masayuki Karahashi
c60c-3gi@web.berkeley.edu
"I think its time to change major"

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Date: 15 Dec 92 14:44:20 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: Software Systems Consulting PC Slow Scan 5.0
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

> I purchased the package about a month ago and so far I am happy.
> There is another piece of software called JVFAX5.0 that works with
> the same hardware. They describe a interface called a "compartor" and
> state it uses a 741 op amp. The SSC interface also has a 8 pin chip
> but the numbers are rub off. 
> Does anyone know if it also is a 741 op amp? I just started to draw
> a diagram of the SSC circuit.

> Has anyone compared the SSC to the VIEW PORT or PASACON systems?

>                                     Ken  

Yes, The SSC unit does use an uncompensated 741.  I did the same thing you
are doing--drew the schematic and pondered over what the chip was--Looked
like a 741, acted like a 741, and it was.  

As for the JVFAX unit I have been looking at it also and although it uses
the same pins on the rs232 I think it may be using these pins differently.
This is next weekends project so I'll let you know if your interested.

I haven't seen the pasokon or viewport actually receive pictures but have
seen the software both uses.  I can tell you the interfaces of the viewport
and Pasokon are in no way similar to the SSC unit.  The big advantage these
two have over software systems is the ability to utilize the 32,000 hicolor
graphics boards. The Pasokon also uses xtal control to keep the picture in
sync (like some of the Robots) so you don't have to worry about setting
configuration params to get your picture straight like you do on the SSC
and viewport systems.

I'm using the SSC unit for receive now and for the simplicity of the interface
it does a great job.  But, I do plan to upgrade to the Pasokon unit after the
first of the year.

Ron - KA5LUG

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 11:50:42 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!yale.edu!ira.uka.de!Sirius.dfn.de!th-ilmenau.RZ.TH-Ilmenau.DE!systemtechnik.tu-ilmenau.de!tom@network.UCSD.EDU
Subject: Yaesu FT-890AT
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <1992Dec14.191154.3903@linus.mitre.org>, m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White) writes:
|> In article <92346.182538MGB@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> 
|> <MGB@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> writes:
|> > Does anyone have any recommendations on [the Yaeus FT-890AT]... ?
|> 
|> I've played with one extensively in the showroom at EEB, and
|> I'm very impressed.  It seems like a splendid little radio,
|> at a very attractive price.  If I were in the market for that
|> class of rig, the -890 would be my first choice.
|> 
O.k., Mike, the receiver is fine, indeed, but for that price (Germany:
abt 3100,- DM for 890AT) it should be possible to have a keybord for
direct input of frequency included. The TS440S shows that. 

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