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From: mcollins@novell.com (Marty Collins)
Subject: Re: NW3.11, TCP/IP forwarding & PD Telnet...
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia
Distribution: comp.sys.novell
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:44:16 GMT

In article <1992Apr1.231604.11457@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> girj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
>
>
>
>We have a Novell 3.11 server with two ethernet cards, one has our floor
>network. 
>
>Can we setup to Novell server to pass IP packets between the IPX net and
>the campus IP net using the TCP NLM?  Bind IPX and IP to both cards?  This
>seems possible from looking at the TCP/IP manual.  

Yes you can load tcpip and bind ip to both cards given that both cards
can support multiple protocol stacks at once, in other words the
NIC's are ODI compliant.


>
>Can we then get a pc on the IPX network who is using packet drivers to telnet
>or ftp across the two cards to other machines on campus?

Once you have the two ODI compliant cards in the file server you can begin
by addressing these two cards. The ip address you pick must have a differnet
network number just as IPX does. Therefore if you are using class B address
then one of the first two bytes must be differnet for both cards.

Example:

_________________| NETWARE |_________________
130.57.x.x		    131.57.x.x

>
>I tried setting it up as per #2 paragraph above, giving both cards both
>protocols.  I gave the gate=... parameter to both cards when doing the
>BIND IP... command.  The address given with the gate=... command was that
>of our building's default gateway.  When I try to telnet I get a "No ARP
>response from gateway." message for outside tries and a "No reponse from
>host." message from in building tries.  It sounds like the packets are
>not getting through to the second ethernet card at all...


Did you try to ping from the WS to both cards first in the server?

Do you really want the gate parameter set when you load tcpip?
IF you are using RIP then you shouldn't need the gate parameter.

The network numbers must be unique for both cards in the server otherwise
routing will not work properly.

One other thing you must LOAD TCPIP forward=yes.

>
>I'am not versed in these things, so any help is appreciated (:^))...
>
>                                                    Frankie


		WHY IS IT THAT WE CAN PUT A MAN ON THE MOON,
		BUT WE CAN'T PUT METAL IN A MICROWAVE.

         |--------------------------------------------------|
         |  MARTY COLLINS              PRODUCT SUPPORT      |
         |  NOVELL, INC.	       SAN JOSE, CA.        |
         |  1-800-NETWARE              mcollins @novell.com |
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From: jm602s1066@sycom.mi.org (James Mallory)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Netware 3.11 Printing problem with Freelance Plus
Date: 14 Apr 92 11:17:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: sycom.jm602s1066.2afb
Organization: Michigan Information eXchange

I have a user that has an occassional problem printing his Freelance documents
to our networked printer.  The printer is attached to a remote workstation
using RPRINTER and it is being fed from the PSERVER.NLM loaded at the file
server.  Occassionaly his printing jobs tend to get stuck and it takes over an
hour before he decides that it is not going to print and he shuts it down. 
Sometimes if he sends the job again right away things are fine...sometimes
this does not work.  I was browsing thru the NSE (Netware Support Enclyopedia)
and one note referred to shutting off the Interupts for that printer and use
polled mode.  It also stated that some machines do not make good RPRINTER
stations.  It is a Northgate machine of so sort with an Ami BIOS is that
helps.  Any other suggestions?

-- C-UseNet V0.55c
            Jim Mallory, a CNE and a Randiod (What a Combination!)

  '...I wanted to have real conversations with people with bubbles on their
 heads...I want to sit next to Wookies...jawas...and all kinds of robots." --
   Carrie Fisher on "Star Wars"  (Even though I would of swore that she was
                           referring to the 'net!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: ccewch@solomon.technet.sg (Wong Chee Heng)
Subject: Acceptable error rate for Ethernet, Token ring
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 03:27:06 GMT

I would like to from experience network adminstrator of these LANs if you
know what are the acceptable error rate for fragments, Bad CRC, broadcast,
etc. so that I can tell if the network is in trouble and how bad and what 
effects will that bring to a normal end user.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: harlick@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Will Clark)
Subject: Mail clients for Novell MHS
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 16:24:23 GMT

We're using DaVici email for Novell MHS here, but I'm not too happy
with it.  Are there any free mail clients that work with MHS?  I'm
looking for something similar to Berkeley mail on Unix.

Thanks in advence.

Will Clark (Go Giants!)
will.an@site007.saic.com
------------------------
SAIC does not share my opinions.
harlick@lindy is a friend's account, but you can send me email here, too.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: NETSCAN89B and NET$OBJ.SYS
From: rossiter_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:27:03 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wellington, NZ

I posted this to comp.virus the other day, and attempted to cross-post to 
comp.sys.novell, but it did not show up here, so this is posted in hopes 
of some replies.  I have had no suggestions from the people on comp.virus.  

text follows:


I have just loaded and tested McAfee Version 89b on my Novell 3.11
network.  In testing NETSCAN, I found that it reported a file in use
during open operation - NET$OBJ.SYS - and gave only the options
abort and retry.  This was consistent on all servers.  Retry of course
still failed, and abort simply ended the scan.

It is my understanding that NET$OBJ.SYS is open at all times that the
network is running (I may certainly be incorrect on this, I'm no expert).
If this is so, then NETSCAN will be of no use whatsoever on SYS disks.

Is anyone aware of a way around this problem, or can anyone detail how
NET$OBJ.SYS can be closed while the network remains up.

Many thanks, Pat
From: tanemeth@economics.adelaide.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: DOS 5.0 Upgrade Hang-up
Date: 8 Apr 92 04:38:00 GMT
Organization: Economics, University of Adelaide

Recently, joe@richsun.cpg.trs.reuter.com (Joe Walters) wrote:
>
>
>     I was running a Windows 3.0 Ethernet network application with the
>     following configuration:
>
>             - Netware 3.11
>             - Windows 3.0
>             - Wollongong Pathway access 2.0 using the ODI driver and dual
>               protocol stack:
>                 - TCP/IP for the application
>                 - IPX to communicate with the file server.
>             - DOS 3.3
>             - Intel 302 PC
>             - 3COM 3c503 Ethernet Adapter Board
>
>     and it worked fine. But when I recently upgraded the workstation to
>     DOS 5.0, the application occasionally hangs for no apparent reason.
>     Any ideas?
>
Joe,

There a several things you might look at.  First of all, make sure that you
are using HIMEM.SYS and EMM386.EXE from the Windows directory, not the DOS 5
versions (that probably applies to the mouse driver also).

Related to the above, make sure you get the latest NETX.COM from the Windows
directory also.

Another thing to check is the 3C503 shared memory area; on some workstations
I have had to exclude it specifically, on others it is not necessary.  DOS 5
seems to use EMS more intensively, so it is possible that an identical config-
uration worked correctly on a previous version.  Ditto for some video cards.

Finally, I recommend that you upgrade to Windows 3.1, as you will find that
the Novell support in it is almost bearable.


Tom Nemeth
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.mac.system
From: marmoset@mondo.engin.umich.edu (Dave Walker)
Subject: Re: NW4Mac 3.01 and System 7.0 Tune-Up v1.1
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 13:43:51 EDT
Organization: U of Michigan Computer Aided Engineering Network

In article <jblue.702174883@mwunix> jblue@mwunix.mitre.org (Jason D. Blue) writes:
>
>Dave, 
>In limited testing I've performed 7.1.1 did not correct the problems with
>printing to a novell queue.  The problem in fact is worse now.  With 7.1, the
>printout would simply disappear from the queue without being printed.  In
>7.1.1, the queue seems to be trying to download the printout to the printer,
>but it seems to hang the printer up, and the printer stays in a "processing
>data" mode.  Since the queue is in the process of printing, the queue is also
>frozen.
>
>The same solution applies here - replace the 7.1.1 driver with the 7.0 driver.
>
>
>Jason

Well, we went ahead and installed the entire TuneUp 1.1, including
LaserWriter 7.1.1, after installing the patches contained in
ATPS2.ZIP (i downloaded it from the Novell Walnut Creek BBS:
510-938-6080).  With ATPSFIX2.NLM loaded, it works fine.


| Dave Walker, Detroit Art Services (DAS)                                |
|                                          "I don't read, I just guess"  |
| marmoset@mondo.engin.umich.edu       -Happy Mondays, "Wrote For Luck"  |
From: jarom@chopin.udel.edu (Carol Jarom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: report ethernet address
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:14:06 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

I'm looking for a command line utility that can be run that
will report back the ethernet address of the NIC in that
machine.  I need it to run on a machine that is not hooked up
to a network or running IPX yet. Is there such a beast?
Thanks,
Carol
jarom@ravel.udel.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: pyrros@mars.cis.udel.edu (Christos T. Pyrros)
Subject: Re: Novell AM/PM Bug  (2.2 & 3.11)
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 00:30:50 GMT

In article <1992Apr04.015912.6496@visual.spk.wa.us> mstaben@visual.spk.wa.us (Matt Staben) writes:
>Novells Version of the clock:
>
>1:00:00.1 (.1 seconds after One A.M.)
> through
>12:59:59.9 (.1 seconds until One P.M.)
>
>is AM.

I have also notcied that AM & PM are messed up on our 3.11 server.  Is there
a fix for this bug?

Novell needs some help with their concept of time!!!


Chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Christoph Weber-Fahr [KIT])
Subject: Re: CAN YOU SEE THIS
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 13:41:18 GMT

mike.damico@cccbbs.UUCP (Mike Damico) writes:
            ^^^^^^^^^^^

>I have left some mesg. but get no answers back. Just wanted to no if
>anyone can see this and if so let me no. Thanks Mike

Sorry for posting this here.

Yes Mike, this can be seen all over the world. But Your return-address
is not valid. If you send Mail to me with a valid path, I could also send you
the bounced message together with the error-message.

Regards

C.Weber-Fahr

-- 
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  Universitaet Kaiserslautern,  KIT/IVS |  S-Mail:  Postfach 3049
  Tel. 0631/205-3391                    |           D-6750 Kaiserslautern
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: ang@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Mikey)
Subject: Re: Reading and distributing news
Organization: UTCS Public Access
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:54:24 GMT

In article <3684@tuegate.tue.nl> paul@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Paul Derks) writes:
>Hi,
>
>We are running a Novell network with several servers and we have one
>SCO Unix machine which collects Usenet News. I want to distribute News
>using the Novell servers. I.e. one server has a directory /spool/news
>and everyone can attach to that file server and use a news reader to 
>access these files. I have looked at uupc and snews but they are primarily
>targeted at getting the news from a usenet feed whereas I already have the
>News and I think I can transfer it from the Unix machine to a Novell server
>using Netware NFS. The most impotant thing I am looking for is a news
>reader which works under DOS/netware and can access the news file tree.
>

I have heard of a program called trumpet, It probably will do the work
for you.

hope that helps.

Michael
From: mai@ovum.ka.sub.org (Ulrich Mai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: comp.sys.novell trafic
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 09:39:14 CED
Distribution: world
Organization: Ovum's Box


I'm wondering! I get 20 or 30 messages a week in comp.sys.novell.
So, why do we need to reorganize it? Do I miss 90% of the trafic?



--
Ulrich Mai <mai@ovum.ka.sub.org>
From: cmo@pogo.wv.tek.com (Christine Olsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: NetWare Technical Journal
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:55:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Wilsonville,  OR.


Does anyone know where to get back issues of the
NetWare Technical Journal?  Unfortunately, this 
is no longer published. 

Also, is there an equivalent journal published now?

Please reply via email: cmo@pogo.wv.tek.com

Thanks for any help,


Christine Olsen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
From: eengelke@sail.uwaterloo.ca (Erick Engelke)
Subject: Re: ODINSUP Without LAN Manager...Possible?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 05:27:44 GMT

sorry for the ramblings, but...
>donp@novell.com (don provan) writes:
>
>>While there is an extremely pricey ODI development
>>kit ($7,500, last i heard), it includes various test utilities and
>>support that make it reasonably priced for the target market: NIC
>>manufacturers.  

I've had to implement two specialized Packet Drivers for which Russ's
great code could not be used.  After reading the above message I 
discussed it with another person who also had to develop a packet driver
from scratch.  We concurred that a suite of test utilities would have
helped us significantly.  Don't anyone dare reply that there is a test
suite - the entire collection of TCP's which support packet drivers -
that's not enough to guarentee total compatibility.

Case in point, today we attempted to run our proprietary NOS over
DEC Etherworks cards.  When the packet driver spit out Russ's new
message we thought we were in business.  Not quite, the packet driver
returned an extra four bytes at the end of each packet, probably the
Ethernet checksum, a violation of the packet driver spec.  This does
not affect IP related protocols as they have embedded length fields,
but it did generate errors for this particular protocol and would for
several others too, namely any protocol which checksums packets as
received and before interpretting the length.

The point is that mistakes are made and only specialized test utilities 
tend to isolate those problems quickly.  $7500 is a bargain because it 
saves the NIC manufacturers hundreds of hours of learning what to look 
for and randomly testing all sorts of applications.

>>On the other hand, for people who are interested in
>>ODI development but aren't going to get rich off of it, there is a
>>document only package that sells for something like $100.  Still a lot
>>of money and definitely not public domain, but certainly within reason
>>for someone preparing to do something as serious as MLID development.

My relief in the Internet world is that I can get all the RFCs as
I need them and at no cost.  Having implemented them in my garage,
this was a necessity, not a social conviction. 

But ODI's entry-level price is not astounding.  It's equivalent to
about two Taunenbaum books, or half the Knuth series, a quarter 
of the FTP programmer's toolkit, the average price of pre-DOS 5 
tech references, a copy of DOS,...  Open systems people should
remember that X/Open books such as (PC)NFS are not free either.

In fact, my WATTCP programmers reference is in a similar price range
and there has been no flak.  If you can use these technologies without
constant royalties and it costs about $100 to tap into these important
(and lucrative) markets, who can affort to be cheap?

Erick
-- 
Erick Engelke					  Engineering Computing
						 University of Waterloo
Waterloo TCP Architect		 erick@development.watstar.uwaterloo.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: iqbal@seas.gwu.edu (Iqbal Qazi)
Subject: Re: Question on Printing
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 23:05:21 GMT

In article <kdtNhRu00WALAEVF0y@andrew.cmu.edu> kf0o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kaveh Farshchi) writes:
>
>I was asked to remove the Guest ID from two 3.11 servers, so I did. The
>problem that we have is, you can not print from one server to another if
>you have removed GUEST. When printing from one server to another, the
>server that you are connected to tries to attach itself as Guest to the
>srever servicing the queues, then you are asked to enter the USERID and
>PASSWORD. My question is that, is there a way to change this to attach
>to other servers as your own USERID?
>
>I also created another user called remote on both servers with the same
>passwords, and tried printing from one machine to another but it did not
>work.

You have to attach onto the other server.  I.e. if userid JOE exists
on both server A and B and B has the printer and JOE logs into server
A, he will have to attach to B to use it's [B's] printers.  A stealthy
way to do this is to put in the attach command in the users login
script.  I.e. "attach B".  If the userid and passwords are the same,
you won't be prompted for them.

Hope it helps,

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From: hamish@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,bit.listserv.novell
Subject: Multiple Ethernet's in server
Date: 9 Apr 92 09:45:24 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand


Has anybody out there ever put 4x NE-3200's and 2x Adaptec 174x0's into the
same 3.11 file server? Can it be done? Will they co-exist, or are there
problems with this configuration?

TIA

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: ccewch@solomon.technet.sg (Wong Chee Heng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: MHS question
Date: 16 Apr 92 03:24:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: nuscc.1992Apr16.032402.17373
Organization: National University of Singapore


I would like to find out more about MHS from Action Technology (which is
bundled to Netware). Is MHS a message format or a mail protocol? The current
implemetation of MHS are file based, i.e. it routes mail by copying mail
messages between different "non-routing host", is there any client server
type of implementation or MHS is inherently file based?

Can someone give me some pointer to where I can get this information.
Thank you.
From: ssmith@husky1.stmarys.ca (Steve Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Western Digital/SMC 10 baseT cards
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:56:33 GMT
Organization: Computer Services, St. Mary's University

Hello,

Excuse me if this is not the right spot to post such an article but here 
goes. Several months ago we purchased some Western Digital 10 baseT ethernet 
cards, part # WDLAN-E10T. They came with enet card, manual, diskette and a 
cable. We recently ordered more but didn't come with cable. Our dealer says 
they ordered the same part number but the supplier says the cable is not 
supplied with the card. Has anyone else run into this situation? 

Thanks

Steve Smith
Manager, Systems and Operations
Saint Mary's University
Halifax, N.S.

Internet: ssmith@husky1.stmarys.ca
Phone: 902 420-5477
From: usenet@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV (usenet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Netware Vulnerabilities
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:41:25 GMT
Organization: CIAC, Lawrence Livermore National Lab.

class is based on UNIX and TCP/IP security, but I would like to
mention Netware.  Can anyone tell me about NetWare security?
Especially NetWare vulnerabilties, bugs and misinstallation problems. 
From: brown@cheetah.llnl.gov (David Brown)
If you are sensitive about discussing vulnerabilties, on the internet
then call me at the number below.  Or send me mail and I'll call you.

voice: (510)423-9878.
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From: gandalf@dworkin.ccs.northeastern.edu (thomas m farrell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: any problems running foxpro on novell?
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:48:56 GMT
Organization: College of Computer Science, Northeastern University
Originator: gandalf@damon.ccs.northeastern.edu

Hi there. 

I was wondering if anyone had any problems with running FoxPro+ stuff on a
Novell network. If so, is there any way to correct the problem?

Specifically, I have a very large foxpro program that runs the voice mail 
system in my office, and since it went up (last wednesday) it's been pretty
unstable, crashing periodically and screwing up the indexes. The author claims
none of his other users are having any similar problems, but none of them are
running it on a network (as I am) either.

Please email response directly to gandalf@dworkin.ccs.northeastern.edu

Thanks a lot,
		Tom
From: andrewsr@remus.rutgers.edu (Rich Andrews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: LanMan vs NetWare.  Lets get to it...
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:08:40 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Well, I do not want to start a religious war here.  Let me explain my
basis for the question:

I work for Merck & Co. (#1 Fortune 500).  We have a tremendous
population of LAN users and many more to come.  We have a "desktop
committee" to decide the future direction of software, hardware, LANs,
etc.  I am on a sub-sub committee to decide the NOS of choice.  We are
down to three candidates: pathworks, LanMan, or NetWare.  I have been
running a NetWare shop for two years and I firmly believe that it can
fill the needs of Merck global.  However, LanMan was stated as the
product of "choice"-which we challenged and ended in this debate.

Now, I am compiling a document to compare LanMan and NetWare on
several areas.  NetWare has to win both for the here-and-now and for
the future.  I have several articles, the worst of which is from
Infoword (March 16, 1992) which states that LanMan is faster, more
powerful, and a better choice.   

Constraints: We have both Intel based systems (386SX, 486) and some
(much fewer) macintosh systems.  The intel systems will be using
Windows.  (3.1 for now, NT in the future).  (I do not want to discuss
that move--I wanted OS/2).  

LanMan supporters want it since it will "integrate" better with
MSMail, MSWord, MSExcel, MSPowerPoint.  In theory I would have to
agree (a MS LAN should be designed to support all MS products).  But I
disagree given past experiences.  

Well, I am compiling stuff now and would appreciate any input from
this forum.  We will look to make our choice next week.  

-Rich
-- 
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