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From: kreckman@cbmvax.commodore.com (Steve Kreckman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: CDTV inside?
Date: 13 Oct 92 12:59:34 GMT
Reply-To: kreckman@cbmvax.commodore.com (Steve Kreckman)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

Your guess about the IC's used in the CDTV is essentially correct. In its
present form the CDTV uses a Motorola 68000 running at 7+ Mhz, the ECS
chip set (Agnus, Paula, Denise), and two 8520's for the I/O ports. It
also uses the same DMAC as the 2091 along with a lot of extra logic to
talk to the CD-ROM drive and the expansion port. There are two additional
microcontrollers to handle the IR remote and the front panel display.

Hope that answers your question..

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From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Mixing Autoconfig RAM and Non-Auoconfig RAM
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:35:56 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <Bw078o.6z3@gabriel.keele.ac.uk> u0g78@keele (Kharanth elMorak) writes:
> Hello there,
> 
> Just a brief question...
> 
> I have a 4Mb RAM expansion board for my A500 (one that plugs in the belly
> slot) populated to 4Mb. Of this 4 Mb, ca. 2.3Mb doesn't autoconfig, and
> needs to be AddMemList()'ed.
> 
> I have purchased a harddrive recently, that has slots for autoconfiguring
> RAM, will the two be compatible?

Maybe, since the part of the memory that does "auto-config" is probably
mapped at C0000-D7FFFF, which doesn't interfere with Zorro-II space
auto-config memory.  There might be a conflict if the rest is "add memmed"
starting at 200000, since that is where "real" autoconfig memory will
be allocated.  Check to make sure there is no conflict between auto-config
and the hard-allocated (addmem) requirements or if there are jumpers to
support different options.

> My 4Mb board adds 2 Mb to the top 2Mb of the auto-configure space, so where
> does autoconfiguring RAM get added?  At the top of the list (rendering my
> 4Mb useless as it will be added after the autoconfig, or the bottom?

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From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: a4000 an possible deinterlacer.
Date: 7 Oct 92 05:48:45 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA

In article <etam.718338560@sfu.ca> etam@fraser.sfu.ca (Edwin Tam) writes:
>That's disappointing, I thought flicker was history on the A4000.  So
>if 800x600 produces flicker, what resolutions don't produced flicker.
>What's the best possible resolution, while still being useful, that
>the A4000 can have without flicker? (And 1280x400 isn't useful for
>practical applications in my opion)

   Flicker is FAR from history on the A4000.  In fact, the A4000 has lower
non-interlaced resolutions than the A3000.  The A4000 adds non-interlaced
versions of all of the NTSC and PAL modes except for the PAL and NTSC 
Super HiRes modes.  However, according to some messages in advocacy, these
modes (called DblNTSC and DblPAL) cannot be overscanned very much.  So the
resolution of an A4000 in DblNTSC mode at maximum overscan is less than that
of the A3000 in NTSC mode with the Display Enhancer turned on.  

   With the A4000, you have available all of the non-interlaced modes of the
ECS with the addition of the DblNTSC and DblPAL modes.  In short, the A4000
is not capable of generating any resolutions higher than 720x480 60Hz or
720x560 50Hz.  The actual highest resolutions are probably significantly less,
because the DblPAL and DblNTSC modes cannot be overscanned all that much.

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From: Tony-Preston@cup.portal.com (ANTHONY FRANCIS PRESTON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: max partition size (1.3 and/or 2.04)?
Date: Wed,  7 Oct 92 09:11:58 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

There is a limit on the partition size of the original file system
(just about 50 MBs if I remember right), but the FFS can handle
just about any size your want.  If you post a little more information
maybe we can help you(like the BPT(blocks per track), start and 
end cylinders of the partions, ect.).
From: mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000 is HERE : )
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:08:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbmvax.35631
Reply-To: mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
>In article <35600@cbmvax.commodore.com> grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins) writes:
>>Me?  When we spec'd out the changes from the Agnus chip to the Alice
>>chip, we deleted some of the 68000 related pins that weren't used in
>>the A3000 environment.  This left room for pins (3) to address up to
>>8 M-byte of chip memory, **iff** the Agnus core got updated to support
>>22-bit addressing.
>
>   Actually, 8M addressing would be 23-bit.  But anyway, why did you have to
>worry about preserving the pin count from the Agnus chip?  You obviously did
>not worry about the Lisa chip having the same number of pins as the Denise
>chip, for instance.

Marc, you should know that it is a bad idea to argue with the engineers of
the machine itself.  After all, you have no idea of what is really involved
at all here.

First, 8M of CHIP RAM is 22 bits.  Yes, 22.  Remember the display system
and the blitter only talk in 16-bit words.  How many of them are in 8megbytes
of memory?  Count them if you wish.

Second, you can not just add pins one at a time.  Cost of a part is very
much related to pin count.  There are two reasons for this:  First is the
fact that for each pin you need a pad at the edge of the chip.  Each pad
takes some amount of space that is rather large.  Cost of chip manufacturing
goes up based on the size of the physical silicon.  Another issue is that
packaging is available in descrete increments and only very expensive
custom packages can be made to non-standard pin counts.

>   It is interesting that you have confirmed that the Agnus core has not been
>updated very much.  This leaves two of the original Big Three Amiga chips that
>have not been updated very much from the versions found in the Amiga 1000.

The core he was talking about is the blitter.  The fetch hardware and the
address generators had to be updated to do the speed of the AGA graphics
along with 32-bit fetch address generation (skipping every other word address
when in 32-bit fetch mode)

George is a very good engineer.  Part of what makes him good is he knows
when something should be left for later.  If the A500 he designed contained
all the features that techno-dweebs wanted it would have cost too much to
make and thus would never have been the success that it was.

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From: nedwie@rs6123.ecs.rpi.edu (Erik Jason Nedwidek)
Subject: Re: RCS FusionForty with VideoToaster (can't start LightWave)
Reply-To: nedwie@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 19:05:41 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.235439.3724@cis.ohio-state.edu>, visconti@gecko.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Visconti) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> We are having trouble getting Lightwave with the addition of the FusionForty.
|> With an original installation of the Toaster software (which contained
|> Lightwave.FP) the Toaster software reported not finding LightWave.  We then
|> reinstalled the Toaster software and it seems to find LightWave now (possibly
|> because the integer version is now there) but it hangs when you try to run
|> LightWave and sometimes says it cannot initialized LightWave.
|> 
|> The FusionForty has run fine for a while, and all the FP things have been
|> run, any ideas???
|>  

	Since the 040 doesn't need a math coproccessor the only way to use the .FP version of lightwave (and you must or else the machine hangs like you are experiencing) is to delete the integer version.  Then you want to rename the fp version as lightwave.  This fools the toaster into loading what it thinks is the integer version.  Since we only have toasters running on 030's here at RPI, I haven't tried this myself, but I read this in Amiga World.  I hope this helps anyone with the same problem.  Good luck!

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From: jbono@tension.UUCP (John Bono)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A4000 Processor
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:10:57 EST
Organization: High Tension BBS

In article <jorngh.35.718830930@dhhalden.no>, jorngh@dhhalden.no (JORN GUNNAR
HALONEN) writes:
>In article <19.2ad76157@ivgate> John.Haubrich@mtask.omahug.org (John Haubrich)
w
>rites:
>>Someone stated recently that the A4000
>>had a 68EC040 processor (without MMU or FPU).  Is this true?
>
>NO NO NO !!!
>
>As stated before, the A4000 has a full blown 040 ... who are spreading 
>rumours anyway ???
>
>*JORN* (email : jorngh@sofus.dhhalden.no)
>
 
Unfortunately, C= is spreading that rumor.  If you open up the A4000 manual it
states how to upgrade from the 68EC040 to the 68040.  Also, if you look inside,
it give directions for upgrading from 1M to 2M of chip ram.  It really shows
how much they rushed it out the door.  Another manual gem that I know of is in
the Excel 3.0 *and* 4.0 manuals for Q+E.  Both manuals state that the windows
version can hook up to a OS/2 EE database, and even tell how to do it, but then
the facility was written out of the program!  The response, "Oh, gee, we
forgot."  Grrr. . . 
 
John
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From: quinlan@spsd630a.erim.org (Kevin Quinlan)
Subject: Re: HELP!!!! Code blue! 3000
In-reply-to: 2ftqkiln@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu's message of 14 Oct 92 00:29:22 CDT
Organization: Environmental Research Institute of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:41:07

In article <1992Oct14.002922.43832@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> 2ftqkiln@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:

>   ok, my 3000 is in MAJOR trouble, we're talking code blue here!
>   when i power her up is all that happens is the power light 
>   blinks on and off without accessing the hard drive or floppy drive.
>   Its not a loose backplane or overheating, and its not that the
>   Rom daughterboard is corroded in any way(i thought that might be
>   it because it doesn't even try to go to the hardrive) and its
>   not a loose SCSI cable. Anyone have any other suggestions?
>   I really would rather not take it to the ripoff palace that 
>   my authorized service center is if at all possibly avoidable.
>   ANY suggestions would be welcomed, cause i just don't have a 
>   couple hundred extra dolars hanging around....
>   Thanks in advance         -Dave


My 3000 just went tits-up as well. Same problem you've described. 
I took it in to an authorized service center and they couldn't 
diagnose the problem, other than to say "It looks like the problem 
is on the motherboard. $580 to replace." Of course, my Gold Service 
warranty expired two months prior. So now I'm stuck with a paperweight.
Does any one (preferably someone from Commodore) know of a solution?

Frustrated,
Kevin Quinlan
quinlan@erim.org
 
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From: afryer@zeus (A. Fryer)
Subject: Re: New Machines
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:22:05 GMT

bevis@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeff Bevis) writes:
: In article <1992Oct7.040403.22619@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Timothy Matthew Ciceran) writes:
: >In article <1992Oct6.151717.10570@hubcap.clemson.edu> taylors@hubcap.clemson.edu (C. Taylor Sutherland III) writes:
: >
: >that delivery would be before Christmas. I'd put my money on the Fall
: >COMDEX (as was alluded to in the CBM follow-up to the Robinson article).
: 
: When is the Fall COMDEX, anyhow?  Soon, I hope.  Then maybe it won't be
: long 'till we see what else C= has up its sleeve.  Oh, how I want a new
:
You'll probably not see anything from C= until the World of Commodore Amiga
in December (the 10th anniversiary of the show!).  Anyone got the dates for
WOC yet?


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From: Aurelius@cup.portal.com (Mark Christian Barnes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A4000 anim speed?
Date: Thu,  8 Oct 92 23:29:06 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
  <35657@cbmvax.commodore.com>

 Michael Sinz writes:

|  Now, the actual displays I have seen can run at such high
|frame rates that the animation software usually
|spends most of its time waiting for the next video
|frame to be displayed.  (After all, if you are doing
|NTSC or PAL interlaced video, anything over 30 or 25
|frames per second is useless as that is all the frames
|that the display actually does.

 Well, if smooth animation is your goal, it is much better
to update each video *field*. Even in interlace mode, the
illusion of motion is much better. I know that someone could
argue that a complete scene isn't always *displayed* in
one frame with this technique. That is a non issue because
the very nature of interlace makes that statistic anyway.

 Following Mike's advice, over time you are seeing a
repeating pattern of one matching frame alternating with
one mixed frame. Updating each field should also be optimized
to only have the blitter draw into the bitplanes that will
actually be fetched and displayed during the *next* field.
Think of it as field rate (interlaced), double buffered
animation. Believe me, it makes a great flight simulation. ;-}

 Of course, if you are trying to record a still frame image
off the display, then you'll want matching odd and even fields.

			Regards, Aurelius@cup.portal.com
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From: morty@midips.in-berlin.de (Martin Poetter)
Subject: Need some specs about 1084 monitor
Organization: Private Organisation fuer angewandte Informagie
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 12:19:40 GMT

Hi,

I need some specs of the Commodore 1084 monitor?

I want to know:

 - horizontal frequency (fixed?)
 - input sockets (please list ALL)
 - adjustment knobs

Which computers (others than Amiga) can also be connected to the 1084?
(I think you can connect your video tape recorder)

Thanks a lot,
Martin.

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From: peter@cbmvax.commodore.com (Peter Cherna)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: [Don't] Avoid the Amiga 4000
Date: 12 Oct 92 12:38:54 GMT
Reply-To: peter@cbmvax.commodore.com (Peter Cherna)
Organization: Commodore-Amiga, Inc.  West Chester, PA.

In article <1992Oct12.032423.12844@ra.msstate.edu> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
>BTW, no one has said anything about the new hires and superhires sprites.
>Can the mouse cursor be in one of these modes?  I hope so, as the lores
>sprite has driven me crazy for years and is very pitiful looking compared
>to the rest of the Workbench.

The new Pointer Preferences allows selection of a hires pointer.  This
means that the pointer resolution will normally be equivalent to 640x400
(or 640x512 PAL).  That means that the "hires" sprite is used in 15 kHz
modes and the "superhires" sprite is used in 31 kHz-type modes.

>Skip Sauls
>skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu

     Peter
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From: kentd@FtCollins.NCR.com (Kent Dalton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Monitors for A4000 - suggestions?
Date: 7 Oct 92 12:19:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NCR Microelectronics, Ft. Collins, CO
In-reply-to: lofaso@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu's message of 6 Oct 92 13:37:14 GMT

>>>>> On 6 Oct 92 13:37:14 GMT, lofaso@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Bernie Lofaso) said:
Bernie> Nntp-Posting-Host: zruty


Bernie> I grabbed a Computer Shopper yesterday and was surprised that
Bernie> there didn't seem to be a lot of offerings in multi-syncs that
Bernie> span the 15-31Khz range.  I only found a few ads for the Sony
Bernie> 1302. I would guess it's probably not in production anymore.
Bernie> Isn't the Seiko CM1440 comparable?  Anyone have any experience
Bernie> with this monitor?

Yes, I've had one hanging off the back of my 3000 for about a year and
a half. They use Trinitron tubes with .25mm dot pitch. Never had any
trouble with it, has exceptional resolution/clarity. Displays 50Hz PAL
really well too (although I normally use it in NTSC mode).

There is one thing you may not like about it though: The horizontal scan
range does not go all the way down to 15Khz... To be honest I don't
understand why this matters so much to people who have machines that can
output noninterlaced signals. It's not like you are *ever* going to
intentionally force your low res screens to be no longer deinterlaced.
The whole time I've owned my 3000, I can't remember turning off the
deinterlacer even once. Seriously.  The 1440 can display every single
mode my 3000 can (well except the special A2024 or whatever it's called
mode).

Does the A4000 allow this (the forcing of all low resolution screens to
be output @31K) like the A3000 does? If not, that's a serious
misfeature, IMHO, because most modern multisync monitors do not go down
to 15K.

Bernie> Any other monitors that I should be considering? I will want to
Bernie> use 800x600 when (if) I get an A4000, so it must sync to 24Khz
Bernie> as well.

I'm not sure, but I don't think the 1440 even goes down to 24K...

Bernie> Thanks.

Bernie> Bernie Lofaso
Bernie> Applied Research Labs
Bernie> (lofaso@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu)
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From: kopnicky@owlnet.rice.edu (Lyle Warren Kopnicky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Avoid the Amiga 4000
Keywords: 4000
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:31:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: rice.Bw6Jp3.B3M
Organization: Rice University

If people want a non-interlaced 724x480 display from one video port,
and a second video port to display it in interlace so that they can
genlock it or whatever, it's really simple!  Buy a FlickerFixer type
card for your A4000, and hook the monitor up to it.  Hook up the normal
video port to your video toy, or plug a genlock into the video slot.
Then you will get exactly the same displays as on a 3000, albeit 12-bit
not 24-bit (although you can get 256 colors+).  As most people couldn't
care less, C= decided not to waste their money.  They built in scan-
doubling but not deinterlacing, instead using the promotion mode.

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From: lofaso@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Bernie Lofaso)
Subject: Will Seiko CM1440 sync to 15Khz?
Organization: Applied Research Laboratories, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:46:06 GMT


The title pretty much says it all. I'd like to get a trinitron-based monitor
for use with an A4000 (future purpose). My interest in syncing to 15Khz is
not to run miscreant programs that won't use the dbl* modes on the A4000,
but rather that I can immediately replace my ailing A1080 that I use on
my A2500. Also, does anyone know if it will sync to the 24Khz required
for the 800x600 super72 mode?

Bernie Lofaso
Applied Research Labs
lofaso@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu
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From: wwarner@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Art Warner)
Subject: Re: A-MaxII+ ?
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 06:41:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.154748.13137@newshost.unh.edu> ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene) writes:
>I wrote:
>>I'd take the first Amiga (A1000) over the first IBM or Mac *ANYDAY*!!!!
>>At least it would be in color, multitask (pre-emptive, too), and play
>>some GREAT games.  Can either of the first IBMs or Macs do that?
>>HELL, can *ANY* of their most recent ones do that?????  Who's clueless?
>           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>         Well, I've got a 486 running OS2.  It's a color system, multitasks,
>   and plays great games.  Who's clueless?

Before I stick my foot in my mouth, let me just ask this question:
Is OS2 *TRULY* pre-emptive?  
ie. does it prioritize tasks and share cpu time based
    on those priorities?  I'm not talking your TSR or 
    Mac multifinder (multi-loser) or Mac sys 7.

Now to many people, especially those who've never had the opportunity to
multitask, my point of prioritization may seem insignificant.
But, to those privaleged few of us that have had this since 1985, we have
sorta grown accustomed to starting another task while a less important one
ran in the background that didn't "STEAL" so much of our precious processor
time.

Of course your running a "486" at some "unGodly" speed.  What do you care
about task prioritization....right?  8)  <- (smiley disqualifier included)

(Wouldn't want to be accused of "flameing".....or is that flaming?)

BTW: I *DID* send my followups to csa.advocacy!

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