From: klaus@wheat-chex.ai.mit.edu (Klaus B. Biggers)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: RFD: Reorganization of rec.skiing
Date: 28 Aug 92 23:55:29 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory


This is a request for discussion on the reorganization of 'rec.skiing'.

This reorganization would address some of the recent problems which
are occuring on the 'rec.skiing' newsgroup due to fragmentation of the
newsgroup content caused by misinformation and lack of an appropriate
means of tranmission of body language, smiley faces, and even more
problematic, the dreaded summertime lack of snow (at least in the
northern hemisphere). This is also compounded by certain members of
the readership which appear to be "humor challenged".

A breakdown of the heirarchy (anarchy?) is outlined below with
appropriate topics listed for each subgroup.

rec.skiing - This group would remain mostly unchanged and will
therefore be the major clearing house for all topics. Posts to this
group could be cross-posted to one (or more) of the apropriate
subgroups for those persons which are only interested in some of the
subtopics. Thus appropriate points of discussion would include just
about anything including but not limited to:
	1) How do I maintain my 15 year old equipment?
	2) When do the tumbleweeds in Colorado come out?
	3) Should I post ski reports starting September 15?
	4) Should I put my skis on the rack bases up or down?
	3) Should I put my skis on the rack facing forward or
		backward?
	4) Should I put my skis on the rack at all?
	5) Is it snowing?
	6) Where do the most skiers who don't shave ski?
	7) Where do the most skiers ski?
	8) Why does Eugene always want people to ski Vail?
	9) Is this rec.skiing.nazis?
	10) Oh yeah, you can post waterskiing stuff here too if you
		really have to.	

rec.skiing.really - This group would be much like alt.personals.ads,
rec.autos.driving, rec.beer.drinking, in that they are purely intended
for straightforward limited discussion of topics relating most
directly to the act of skiing. NO HUMOR ALLOWED!! Ski reports, resort
expansion plans, relevant ftp sites, etc. will be the only allowed
topics. Again: NO HUMOR!!

rec.skiing.nazis - This is where the pinheads will have free rein.
They will be allowed to bash anything and everything, especially
tourists in neon skiwear, snowboarders, beginners, lawyers, and any
resort that charges more than $25 for an all day pass. (Actually,
lawyer flamage will be allowed in all groups except
rec.skiing.wanted.tongue-in-cheek since there is absolutely nothing
funny about lawyers.) First time posters (also known as newbies) will
be publicly flamed by at least 10 rec.skiing.nazis.gods for a minimum
of 5 posts at which time the newbie will be allowed to post to
rec.skiing.nazis.wannabe until promoted to rec.skiing.nazi.apprentice.
At this point limited email to members of rec.skiing.nazis will be
allowed, via a moderator of course. Also, since this will be the
"haunt" of the free-heeled, tofu recipes and granola mixes will be
allowed in this forum.

rec.skiing.nazis.wannabe - See above.

rec.skiing.bondage - This will be the appropriate group for the
discussion of downhill (parallel) equipment only such as bindings,
skis, and boots. Rear entry boot discussion is reserved for
rec.skiing.motss. An anonymous posting service will be set up for
those who would prefer that their equipment preferences be kept
private.

rec.skiing.motss - See above. (*Note: This group has a limited
distribution.)

rec.skiing.snowboarders - I have no clue what this would be in here
for. Maybe we should just move these guys to alt.fan.axl-rose.

rec.skiing.wanted.really - This is where requests and (real) answers
to information requests should be posted. As with rec.skiing.really,
NO HUMOR!! Also, no information about Alta will be allowed to be
posted here. Snowbird information will be allowed on a trial basis or
until all-day passes exceed $38 at which time no more 'bird
information will be allowed here and it will be moved to
alt.fan.axl-rose. All posts must give positive information, *NO
NEGATIVITY*!

rec.skiing.wanted.tongue-in-cheek - this is where all tongue in cheek
humour will be posted in response to requests for information in
rec.skiing.wanted.really. The only things *NOT* allowed will be any
discussion of liability or lawyers and any post containing a smiley
face of the left facing [ (: ] or right facing [ :) ] kind, or any
derivitive of a smiley face such as ;>, :o, :P, :+), etc. All posts
pertaining to Utah must be posted in this group because of the no
negativity requirement of rec.skiing.wanted.really and the fact that
there is absolutely nothing good which can be said about Utah. A
special exception is made for Deer Valley since everyone knows it is
the only worthwhile place to ski in Utah. Snow Country magazine can't
be wrong.

rec.skiing.folklore - this is where misinformation will be debunked,
especially that misinformation which was initially propogated via
rec.skiing.wanted.tongue-in-cheek. Common and reoccuring questions
include:
	1) You can too get a drink in Utah. (bzzt, wrongo!)
	2) There is too skiing in Idaho. (bzzt, wrong again!)
	3) There is too powder in Oregon. (Yes, but we were talking
		snow.)
	4) There are steep runs at Steamboat. (Yes, but skiing the
		driveway gets old pretty quickly.)
	5) If you ski in Utah, a missionary will show up at your door
		within two weeks of returning home. (This all depends
		on whether or not you use your real name when you are
		checking in.)

rec.skiing.summer - This is where most of the posts will occur during
the northern hemisphere off season. The charter of this group is
identical to talk.bizarre.

rec.skiing.nude.really - self explanatory... really. No jokes!, No
sexual comments!, and plenty of sunscreen in the appropriate places.
This is also the forum for "dune/sand skiing".

rec.skiing.vail - Vail, the biggest and the best, and the *only*
resort worthy of its own newsgroup. Post here... and ski there.

The floor is now open for discussion.

-klaus                                              klaus@ced.utah.edu

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