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From: cris@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (cristine.a.letourneau)
Subject: Re: "Rainbow over my Zoo" Quilt
Keywords: applique, hand
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:46:19 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.202306.15261@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> dtrytten@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Deborah Trytten) writes:
>
>I was very surprised to find that I love doing hand applique.   I
>prefer machine piecing to hand piecing, but I just love doing hand
>applique.  Go figure.   I used to think that hand applique was the
>most dreaded and awful thing to do, but it turned out to be very
>challenging and  fun.  
>
...
>
>Are there any other people who enjoy hand applique?   What do you
>do?  Any special techniques (I use the freezer paper and glue stick
>method) that I should know?  Is there anyone else out there who
>machine quilts hand applique?  
>

I like hand applique because I can do it in front of the TV and the 
results are so much nicer (IMHO) than doing it by machine.  It is a
good replacement for the counted cross stitch I used to do before I
got "the fever." I kind of like hand piecing too, but I worry about 
my quilts falling apart.  I feel that machine pieced quilts are 
stronger - not to mention that if I had to hand piece all my quilts 
I'd probably average 2 a decade!

I also use the freezer paper and glue stick method and am quite happy
with it.  


Cris
cris.letourneau@att.com


Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: westphal@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Dorothy Westphal)
Subject: Re: Quilting Bee Prices Reduc
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 16:50:41 GMT

In article <487.63.uupcb@uttsbbs.uucp> ron.parker@uttsbbs.uucp (Ron Parker)  writes:
> on 5 Oct 92 sallyh@StarConn.com (Sally Holmes) wrote:    
>  
>SH . P.S. I've tried to limit the distribution of this article to the Bay   
>SH . area. It'll be interesting to see where it gets to...
>
>It got to Minnesota, and I'll echo it to anyone who reads my usenet
>messages, so who knows where it'll end up.  I have users in Europe,
>Africa, Japan, and New Zealand.  I should add that my Internet gateway is
>in the greater SF Bay Area even though I am in rural MN.
>
Note to everyone in Europe, Africa, Japan, and New Zealand:
it's worth the trip!


-- 
Dorothy Westphal, Sunnyvale, Calif. % Just when things are going your way...%
westphal@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com   %               they get even better!   %
From: george@webb.psych.ufl.edu (Stephanie George)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: Thank you all!  (was: Fabriholics: my story)
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:06:29 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Florida, Psychology Dept.

I wish to thank all of you for the complimentary notes and encouragement 
that you have sent me regarding my story.  Up until now about the only
creative writing that I have produced has been my resume' and my checkbook.

I've cleaned it up a bit and modified a couple of the clumsier phrases and
am prepared to submit it to Threads magazine.

I showed the story to my husband.  After reading it he said "Honey, you didn't
have to go to all this trouble to tell me that you bought more fabric."

As our news system here at the Univ of Florida seems to be a bit slow, I have
seen my story posted, but all of the other articles appear to be at least
a week old in spite of reading this group semi-daily.  I know that some 
articles have been posted in response (as well as the direct mail that I
have received) and I thank you even though I haven't seen them yet.

I'll let you all know what response I get from the mags.

Stephanie
-- 
Stephanie George        DoD #218         Box 100356, Shands Teaching Hospital 
george@net.health.ufl.edu                University of Florida
(904) 395-0410                           Gainesville, FL  32610
From: toftner@icd.teradyne.com (Liv Toftner)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: sewing machines
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:49:37 GMT
Reply-To: toftner@icd.teradyne.com
Organization: Teradyne, Inc. Boston MA

25 years ago I bought a low-end Bernina.  I love that machine, it just keeps running.  
It hasn't had a professional cleaning for about 10 years, although I clean it 
regularly.

Liv
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: sallyh@StarConn.com (Sally Holmes)
Subject: Re: Quilting Bee Prices Reduc
Organization: Starnet-Public Access UNIX--Los Altos, CA  415-949-3133
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:00:17 GMT

ron.parker@uttsbbs.uucp (Ron Parker)  writes:

> on 5 Oct 92 sallyh@StarConn.com (Sally Holmes) wrote:    
>  
>SH . P.S. I've tried to limit the distribution of this article to the Bay   
>SH . area. It'll be interesting to see where it gets to...

>It got to Minnesota, and I'll echo it to anyone who reads my usenet
>messages, so who knows where it'll end up.  

It'll end up on any machine that's asked to receive the ba distribution.
It also got to Boston, Nashville and Nova Scotia. My apologies to people
who therefore found it less than useful.

Sally
From: Marina.Salume@Corp.Sun.COM (Marina Salume)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: hand applique tips
Date: 16 Oct 92 22:47:29 GMT

>Are there any other people who enjoy hand applique?   What do you
>do?  Any special techniques (I use the freezer paper and glue stick
>method) that I should know?

I just took a workshop with a Japanese teacher. She makes a template
out of plastic or cardboard, bastes around the curves of the fabric
piece in teh seam allowance, holds the fabric piece next to the 
template and pulls the basting thread. This curves the fabric right 
up against the template and creates lovely smooth curves. You can
carefully remove the basted fabric piece, pin it in position with the
seam allowances turned under, and applique it to your background. 
You only do this on edges that curve out (convex?) for the edges
that curve in (concave?) you clip up to the sewing line and press
the edges under with an iron before appliqueing. You handle points
that way, the teacher even uses a spot of fabric glue to hold under
the points until they can be stitched (she let the glue dry before
appliqueing).

I also tried ironing freezer paper to the back of the fabric, turning
under the seam allowances, and appliqueing it to the background, 
pulling out the freezer paper before I completely sewed down the piece.
That worked too.

>My next hand applique project (actually the butterfly had some hand
>applique on it) is going to be the red and green quilt from the
>Red Wagon Christmas or Not book.  I noticed that the latest Red
>Wagon book had fairly decent directions (which none of their past
>books have had), and only two authors.  Did the third one leave?
>I hope they don't change their style.  I love their stuff.
 
Me too. I also noticed the missing author, but haven't heard what
happened. Their latest book is even published by a different publisher,
I think it is "That Patchwork Place." But the designs are just as nice. 

--marina
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: dtrytten@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Deborah Trytten)
Subject: "Rainbow over my Zoo" Quilt
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:23:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
Followup-To: alt.sewing 

Earlier this year I posted about my first hand applique quilt.  Well,
I'm going to finish the hand work tonight.  YEAH!  In fact I would have
finished it last night if that damn baseball game didn't get so
exciting. :-)  

This quilt is perhaps the cutest children's quilt I've ever seen
(no, I still don't have children, and no, you can't have it for your
children :-) ).  It is stylized animals in bright rainbow colors in
groups (2-6 animals).   They are joined with a striped border, and
the original quilt has a piece rainbow border.  My striped border
is in greens, which sounds funny but looks great.  I've decided to
leave off the piece border and use just a simple fabric border
(although this simple fabric is one of those fantastic Hoffman
prints--and I got the last yard of it at my local store :-) ).

I was very surprised to find that I love doing hand applique.   I
prefer machine piecing to hand piecing, but I just love doing hand
applique.  Go figure.   I used to think that hand applique was the
most dreaded and awful thing to do, but it turned out to be very
challenging and  fun.  The Rainbow quilt is a great first project
because it has a lot of big pieces that are easy and some small
and challenging details to improve your skills.   Another copy of this
quilt is shown in the new Harriet Hargrove Machine Applique book.
I really don't like the colors that were used in the HH book, but
if you want to see the quilt that's one place to look.

For those of you in Michigan, two of my quilts will be on display
at the Ann Arbor Methodist Church show in the beginning of
November.  This quilt will be one of them.  The other is a circular
butterfly quilt that I finished up a couple of days ago.  With a little
luck, both will be completely finished.  Thank goodness for machine
quilting (and have you seen the new machine quilting feet for the
Bernina? ) 

Are there any other people who enjoy hand applique?   What do you
do?  Any special techniques (I use the freezer paper and glue stick
method) that I should know?  Is there anyone else out there who
machine quilts hand applique?  (I can't hand quilt because of
chronic tendonitis--so don't tell me it's tacky--it's my only choice)

My next hand applique project (actually the butterfly had some hand
applique on it) is going to be the red and green quilt from the
Red Wagon Christmas or Not book.  I noticed that the latest Red
Wagon book had fairly decent directions (which none of their past
books have had), and only two authors.  Did the third one leave?
I hope they don't change their style.  I love their stuff.
  
Deborah Trytten
dtrytten@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu
From: Marina.Salume@Corp.Sun.COM (Marina Salume)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: quick applique techniques
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:14:32 GMT

>Please tell me what you mean by "_quickly_"!!
>
>I've been trying to do a star/applique quilt, and so far, each square takes
>me 3 hours!

If you are doing applique, I assume you are doing it by hand. That's
why it takes three hours. The quick techniques are all done on the
machine. There are some machine applique techniques you could probably
try, altho they are best suited to simple shapes. Not having seen your
pattern, I don't know how suitable it is to quick machine techniques.

I made a machine applique lately, 12 blocks in a few hours. I ironed
under the seam allowances, pinned the piece in position, and machine
zizagged over the edges with invisible thread. For curved pieces, you
can cut a piece of freezer paper to your template shape,then iron 
the seam allowances of your applique piece under. The "wax" on one side of the 
freezer paper will adhere to your seam allowances, keeping them in place
while you stitch. Then you cut out the backing fabric under your shape
and carefully pull out the paper. These are just two quick techniques for
applique, there are more!

--marina
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: dawn@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Dawn Burgess)
Subject: Request: more costume advice
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:55:46 GMT

Well, I have a beautiful beaded top that was my grandmothers (I assume
in the twenties) that I have never had an occasion to wear. This halloween,
I would like to build a costume around it, but I am not sure what would 
work best.  Let me describe it:

It is a black tank, with black beading and sequins, zips up the back,
and has a scalloped hem with beaded fringe.  The hem hits right at the top
of my hipbones.  It is not fitted (with darts) but is not loose, either.
(The base fabric is a lightweight wool knit.)  

My question is this:  What sort of skirt should I wear with this top?  
My first inclination is that a mermaid/tulip type skirt (straight
skirt flared at the bottom) would look good, but I am not sure it is
authentic.  

What other accessories would be good?  Shoes?  Hat?  Did Flappers wear
these sorts of clothes, or only the straight fringed dresses?  (In 
other words, when people ask me what I am, what should I say?)

Basically, it is a great top (that looks great on me, pat pat) and I 
am dying to wear it.  Can you all help me out?

Thanks!

Dawn
From: sallyh@StarConn.com (Sally Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Pattern for children's T-shirts
Date: 7 Oct 92 06:18:51 GMT
Organization: Starnet-Public Access UNIX--Los Altos, CA  415-949-3133

I've recently become the proud owner of a serger. Nothing fancy, just 
a second-hand Hobbylock. Anyway, I decided I'd try making something out
of knit fabric. A T-shirt for my daughter seemed simple and wouldn't
take much fabric. I bought Stretch and Sew #945.

Isabel's chest size is 22 inches. There seemed to be a lot of ease in
the pattern, so I made the 21 inch, which is the smallest on the
multi-sized pattern.

It's huge. About 4" too big round the chest, and the armscye is
enormous. Even the shoulder is too wide. The arms are about 7" too
long.

I checked the pattern, and the 21" actually comes out at about 28".
Seven inches of ease would be appropriate in a loose-fitting blouse for
a large lady such as I: it's totally out of proportion in a T-shirt for
a 19-month-old.

Again, looking at the pattern: the largest size is 31". The reductions 
in sizes are made simply by shaving off half an inch at each side 
seam for every 2" the size goes down, with similar adjustments in the
other seams. So a 31" comes out at 38", with an ease of 22%: the ease 
on the 21" is 33%.

I have a few questions:

Can anyone recommend a good, basic T-shirt pattern for a small girl? I'd
like a pattern that can be adapted to give long or short, fitted or full
sleeves.

Is there a fairly simple way to adapt my existing pattern? I can take in
half an inch down each side of the front, just out from the neckline, to 
make the shoulder fit, and another half an inch at the side to make the
total ease 3", but what about the armscye? It's over halfway to where
her waist would be if she had one! I'm making the puffed sleeve version:
if I raise the armscye on the bodice, where do I alter the arm? If I
just take the extra out of the side of the arm, the arm head is much too
big. 

I thought Stretch & Sew were a reputable company? What's with this
practice of just reducing everything by 2" to get a smaller size? Don't
they realise that you just can't get away with it when the largest size
on the pattern is 50% bigger than the smallest? Do they do this on all
of their children's patterns? I'd like to make sweatpants too, and have
bought #5800. Should I put it away until Isabel's about 4? Will I have
to alter the armscye even then?

If I sound angry: I am! I've come to expect children's patterns to be 
a little on the large side, but I don't like to waste my time and money 
on some patternmaker's laziness.

Yours sincerely,

Disgusted of Los Altos
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: westphal@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Dorothy Westphal)
Subject: Re: savers
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 16:34:47 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.173409.6607@Cadence.COM> fran@Cadence.COM (Fran Peterson) writes:
>In article <1992Sep24.173447.19902@morrow.stanford.edu> dawn@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Dawn Burgess) writes:
>>>
>>>Can you tell us where it is exactly? Unless you don't want anyone
>
>Anyway,  the Savers I shop at is in Milpitas off of Calavas <-spelling?
>
>There is also one at San Carlos & Bascom in San Jose by Valley Fair.

This is the former "Thrift Village" that burned down and rebuilt.
They celebrated by raising all prices :-)
I believe they have special days like half off somethingorother
on Sundays, etc.

>Happy shopping in the "best stores" in town.


-- 
Dorothy Westphal, Sunnyvale, Calif. % Just when things are going your way...%
westphal@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com   %               they get even better!   %
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: bulwinkl@stein.u.washington.edu (Lise Knox-Seith)
Subject:  WOW!  women on the net!
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 21:47:37 GMT

As an engineering grad student and sometime software consultant, I
am working in a men's world.  I can't tell you how refreshing it was
to stumble on this newsgroup!  Finally, someone who understands!

I used to sew in Jr. High and High School.  Now, I make lace whenever
I'm waiting for the bus or getting bored in a lecture.  So, I'm not
a complete fabriholic but I AM a craftaholic.  And I can tell you, most
of the men I work with just *don't* understand.  They think if it
isn't high tech, it's gotta be kinda stupid.  ;-)

I do have some pieces of fabric that I've been carrying around through
three moves (two of them to different states.)  My new roommate has
access to a sewing machine, so hopefully those projects will finally get
made.  Lacemaking supplies take up barely any room - and are even easier
to carry around than embroidery (tatting, that is) - but the result is
awfully tiny for all those hours of work.  I also have a huge bag of
yarn that I bought to make a Kaffe Fassett (sp?) project that I never
got up the nerve to attack.  And then there's the huge sweater that I
was making for an ex-fiance that's half-finished and has seen even more
moves than the fabric.  Imagine, making an intricate nordic design for
a large man, out of baby yarn!  ;-)

After making lace for about four years, I'm ready to tackle something
BIGGER.  Like maybe furniture-making!  I'd like to make something as
beautiful as the 150 year old Danish parlor table I bought this spring.
Long term goal!  Another life work I've planned since being a teenager
is to needlepoint the seats for a couple antique chairs.  I bought 
chairs last spring too, and when my lace project is done, plan to design
and create a bargetto pattern for the seats 

Are there other newsgroups that would be better for my needleworking
interests?  Perhaps rec.crafts.textiles?  I haven't seen one for
furniture refinishing.  Sorry if this post got a bit far afield from
sewing, but I wanted to say I'm glad you're all here - keep up the
good work!
From: aatresa@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Teresa Kline)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: Giving Up On Clothes
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:26:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Yeah, *right* !
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct13.171401.8033@sequent.com>, cyndie@sequent.com (Cyndie Sutherland) writes...
>I would like to try quilting.  can
>anyone recommend a good beginners book??

I think it's Diane? Leone has a first book...called the sampler book or 
some such.  I'll check it tonight when I get home and post it tomorrow.  
-- Teresa

		Life -- just for the FUN of it!!!!
From: swisher@cs.utexas.edu (Janet M. Swisher)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: The Science of Ironing
Date: 8 Oct 1992 12:46:26 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: boogie.cs.utexas.edu

In article <BvrFp3.86D@cup.hp.com> morrison@cup.hp.com
(Bobbie_Morrison) writes:

>Hi.  Does anybody know of any good, comprehensive books on ironing?
>I know this might sound kind of funny, but I think there are alot of 
>nuances and tricks that I don't know.  

>What about all of those special ironing gadgets?  How do you iron 
>corduroy? (or don't you...)  How do you keep ironed fabric from being 
>shiny .. or leaving the seam allowance imprint..... etc...

For corduroy, and to avoid seam allowance marks, iron the garment
inside out.  For fabric with embroidery or beadwork, iron on the wrong
side, over a few thicknesses of towel.  For men's shirts and things of
similar construction, iron the collars, yokes, cuffs and sleeves
first.

That's all the tips I know.  I'm afraid I can't help with your other
questions, or provide any references.



Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: euclid@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Saint Joan of Arc)
Subject: Re: the time it takes to do things (was Giving Up On Clothes)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:55:14 GMT

I find it helps to be process oriented,too.  I am *slow*, and there isn't
much i've made that it wouldn't be more time efficient to buy (novelty items
are the exception).  But this is what i do instead of watching t.v. or
mucking around with Nitendo; i enjoy it, and what's more when a project is
finished i have something to show for it....something i can't say for video
games and 99.9% of the time can't say for t.v.

--
St. Joan of Arc ,euclid@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu (preferred)
standard disclaimers apply
The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a 
Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven --John Milton "Paradise Lost"
From: close@lunch.wpd.sgi.com (Diane Barlow Close)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: computer programs
Date: 15 Oct 1992 06:06:01 GMT
Organization: Self employed, eh.
Reply-To: close@lunch.wpd.sgi.com (Diane Barlow Close)
NNTP-Posting-Host: lunch.wpd.sgi.com
Originator: close@lunch.wpd.sgi.com

sallyh@StarConn.com (Sally Holmes) writes:
>The Quilter's Design Studio by QuiltSOFT was on show at the quilt show
>in Burlingame last week. It looked pretty neat, but I don't quilt enough
>to know how good it is. It has a library of blocks, which you can add to

I was at the show (it was great!!) and the friend I went with bought
this program.  The one drawback I saw to this program's design was the
fact that if you add your own designs the program doesn't save them
as separate files -- it adds them to the program itself.  Thus your
software grows with each save!  This means you have to back up the
*entire program*, not just any saved files, and this also prevents
you from incorporating your own quilting designs as pictures to
include in, say, letterhead as part of a word processing program,
etc.  There is simply no means to save a design to a separate file.

Also, under Windows 3.1 QuiltSOFT's printer drivers don't function, so
you can't print out templates or pictures of your design.  This _may_
be fixed later and you can kludge it with updated drivers from
Microsoft according to the woman demonstrating the program.  That was
enough to turn off several potential buyers (my friend is a 3.0
devotee with no plans to upgrade yet so she didn't mind).

Overall the package looked (ie. demoed and it's manual read) better
than what I've seen of its competitor, "Electronic Quilt".  Anyone
actually try that program yet?  Does it have the same save flaws as
QS?

Those details again:

>It will print out templates and even calculate yardage requirements. It 
>runs under Windows. Cost is $99, plus $5.50 shipping.
>
>QuiltSOFT:
>	P.O. Box 19946
>	San Diego
>	California 92159-0946
>
>Phone (619) 583 2970.

-- 
Diane Barlow Close
	close@lunch.wpd.sgi.com 
	I'm at lunch today.  :-)
Xref: sparky alt.gopher:1313 comp.infosystems.gopher:739
From: troth@rice.edu (Rick Troth)
Newsgroups: alt.gopher,comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Re: VM Gopher Server?
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:26:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: rice.Bw5zzH.59M
Reply-To: Rick Troth <troth@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Organization: Rice University

>Is there software available to run a Gopher Server on VM/CMS?

        Our CMS Gopher 2.3.3 is just now ready.   It includes both 
a client and a server.   It should be available for Anonymous FTP 
from Brazos.IS.Rice.EDU as well as in "package" form from LISTSERV 
at RICEVM1 by tomorrow.   I'll try to ensure that Boombox gets a copy. 
It will also be on VMSHARE. 

        If you're interested,  there is a discussion list,
VMGOPHER at PUCC  (BITNET)  or  VMGOPHER@PUCC.Princeton.EDU.

Rick Troth <troth@ricevm1.rice.edu> ------------- Rice I/S VM Systems Support
Newsgroups: alt.gopher
From: "Joanne Holiday" <p00012@psilink.com>
Subject: Difference between WAIS and Gopher
Organization: IPG
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:20:54 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.2)

Can you please tell me the difference between WAIS and Gopher?

My basic understanding is that they're both resources that help you find 
internet resources.

Any response appreciated--THANKS!

Joanne Holiday
p00012@mail.psi.net
Newsgroups: alt.gopher,comp.infosystems.gopher