From: mwallace@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark Wallace)
Subject: The Colorado Skier - Trivia 6
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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 14:29:59 GMT


Subject:  THE COLORADO SKIER - TRIVIA 6


Greetings from THE COLORADO SKIER


This is part of a series on Skiing and Ski Area TRIVIA.  It is posted 
separately from our companion series on "The Lost Ski Areas of
Colorado".  That series will continue independently.  This new series
will continue as long as we can think of ski area trivia questions and
as long as you keep reading them and give us feedback (e.g., strokes).


THE COLORADO SKIER TRIVIA - EDITION #6


EDITOR'S REMARKS:


 A.  Due to the large volume of responses to "TRIVIA 4", which set a
     new record for the most responses to any COLORADO SKIER article,
     we didn't answer all the trivia questions in TRIVIA 5.  So, in
     this issue will just catch up on answers and present the current
     standings in the "Ski Areas I Have Skied" contest.  


 B.  Thanks for all the kind words.  Guess you took our request for
     "strokes" seriously.


 C.  We receive a lot of requests for "Back Issues" of our Trivia and
     Lost ski area posts.  Until now we have been E-Mailing back
     copies to anyone who asked.  However, the number of requests is
     increasing exponentially and our Communications Director is
     starting to complain about the increased workload.  Eventually it
     will become:  "I just saw your Trivia 10 post, can you send me
     Trivia 1 through 9?"

     NEW POLICY:  No more individual E-Mails for back issues.  Sorry.
     Whenever we receive 2 or more requests for the same edition, we
     will re-post it for everyone to copy.  We will try to give
     advance warning of re-posts.  But, keep asking.



1.  NEW TRIVIA QUESTIONS


      ***  No NEW trivia questions in this edition.  Look for new ones
      in TRIVIA 7, coming soon to a network near you.  ***



2.  TRIVIA 4 BONUS ANSWERS - QUICK LOOK


 Bonus Question:  In the prolog to the James Bond movie "The Spy Who 
    Loved Me", Bond is seen skiing along a snow field with the bad
    guys in hot pursuit, guns blazing.  The snow field ends abruptly
    at a cliff.  Bond skis off the edge, falls into the abyss and then
    pops a parachute, in the British Flag design.  Question:  Who was
    the STUNTMAN and WHERE was the "gag" (stunt) filmed?

         Answer:  RICK SYLVESTER, BAFFIN ISLAND, Canada


 Double Bonus:  There are several exciting skiing sequences (e.g., 
    motorcycle chasing skier on a bobsled run) in the James Bond movie
    "For Your Eyes Only".  The skiing shots were filmed by an action
    PHOTOGRAPHER with a last name famous in the ski industry.  Who?

         Answer:  Willy BOGNER



3.  TRIVIA 4 BONUS ANSWERS - DETAILS


   Since there is considerable overlap between the two films, we will
   combine the discussions.  Below are our best guesses at the correct
   answers, obtained from our memory, the film credits, and your
   responses.  The two films will be abbreviated "Spy" and "Eyes".

   WILLY BOGNER was the head ski stunt photographer on both films. 
   His Mother, Maria Bogner, invented the "stretch" ski pant, made of
   wool and nylon.  His father was the first to market the BOGNER
   stretch ski pant.  Our first pair cost $50.  Using the price of a
   VAIL lift ticket as a guide to inflation in the ski industry, those
   same stretch pants would cost $325 today!  (and wouldn't stretch
   enuff to fit us!)  Does Bogner still make them?  Do they really
   cost that much?  We have long since switched to bibs.

   The credits for SPY say "Skiwear by Willy Bogner"; the credits for
   EYES say "Skiwear by Bogner".  James Bond wears a Bogner parka in
   both films with the signature chrome "B" as the zipper pull.

   RICK SYLVESTER did the prolog stunt in "Spy".  He was also the
   first to ski off El Capitan, but the movie stunt was filmed in
   Auyuittuq National Park on Baffin Island, in northern (is that
   redundant?) Canada.  That is the correct spelling, Harold.  It's
   easy if you do it "AU-YUIT-TUQ".  How do you pronounce it?  Sorry,
   we don't do foe-net-icks and we don't do (DOS) windows.  

   Karl thought that John Eaves did the parachute stunt.  Eaves is
   certainly a well known stunt skier.  He IS listed in the credits
   among a group of eight stunt skiers who did the great skiing stunts
   at CORTINA in "Eyes".  Harold says that Rick Sylvester did the 50-
   100 feet free fall to the end of the belay line in "Eyes".  Rick IS
   listed among the eight stunt climbers.  Our guess is that other
   climbers made the climb, putting in the protection, and then Rick
   did the fall.  Note that, in the film, Bond does the climb without
   anyone belaying him.  Not bloody likely!  It was pretty stupid to
   show it that way as there were six more men in his commando party. 
   

   Guesses - Stuntman:  A few folks correctly identified Sylvester.

   Guesses - Location:  Carlson - Greenland (close!).  Michael and 
     Harold correctly answered Baffin Island.

   Guesses - Photographer:  Several folks correctly identified Bogner. 
     There was one guess for Warren Miller and one for Warren Miller's
     son (who has apparently taken over Warren Miller Productions).  



4.  THE GREAT "SKI AREAS I HAVE SKIED" CONTEST

    We asked you to send us the total number of (lift-served) ski
    areas you have skied, your estimate of the number of areas over
    1000 feet, and the number of states (and provinces) skied.  The
    results (including yours truly and Mark from our staff):

                          Total      Areas       States, Provinces,
      Skier     State     Areas      > 1000      Countries
     -------    -----     -----      ------      ----------

     Tom (PITA)   MA        50         36           13
     Al           CA        50          -            -
     Carlson      CA        45         35           10
     Karl         UT        42         26           14
     Hugh         NZ        41         39           10
     Colorado     CO        40         38            7
     Eric         NY        38          -            9
     Mark         CO        37         35            7
     Verney       TX        37         25            - 
     Steve        CO        31         26            5
     Keith        MA        29         24            6
     Danny        PA        24         19            8
     Jim          FL        24         11            5
     Rob           ?        23         22            6
     Robert       OH         9          5            4


     Note:  We didn't ask you to list the ski areas but many of you
     did.  Although we would prefer to trust you, we couldn't resist
     the temptation to review your lists and edit, here and there. 
     Winter Park/Mary Jane is one area.  Can you count Nevada if
     you've skied Heavenly Valley?  Only if you bought your lift
     ticket in Nevada.  Can you count Tignes and Val d'Isere as two
     areas?  Yes.



5.  FOLLOW-UP AND OTHER TRIVIAL STUFF

 a.  BRADFORD - One of the nice fallouts of having your own newsletter
     is that you get help in pursuing your hobbies - in this case the
     hobby being ski area trivia.  After reading our "lowest ski area"
     question, faithful reader John, of Winchester, MA, reached in his
     map case and pulled out a topo map for the "Lawrence" region of
     Mass.  (We hope you didn't have to actually go into Lawrence to
     buy it - too dangerous!)  Then he proceeded to determine the base
     altitude for the BRADFORD ski area near Haverhill, Ma.  He
     assesses it at just over 18 meters - about 60 feet.  Thanx, John.


 b.  LOWEST OF THE LOW - Here is a recap of the lowest ski area bases:


        ATLANTIC FORESTS, MA       30 feet        unverified
        SPRING MTN, PA             45             unverified
        BRADFORD, MA               60
        YAWGOO VALLEY, RI          70 
        BLUE HILLS, MA            100
        CAMDEN SNOW BOWL, ME      100
        MT. SOUTHINGTON, CT       100


 c.  BEECH, BEECH, BEECH - Karl, from BYU, complained because we
     didn't include his correct guess of BEECH MTN as the highest ski
     area in the East.  Here is our pitiful excuse.  The trivia post
     went out on 6 Nov.  Most answers come in within a few days - you
     guys have short attention spans.  Karl's answer came in on 24 Nov
     (a little late!).  Of course, Karl is at BYU.  They read, write,
     and type a little slower at football schools.  So, by the time
     Karl's answer came in we were doing final proofing on the next
     trivia edition.  Actually, Karl, we forgot you.  We sorry.  [Did
     we mention that Karl of BYU correctly answered that Ski Beech is
     the highest ski area in the East?  Way to go, Karl!]  


 d.  IS OUR FACE RED! - Steve, of Mass pointed out that while talking
     about the highest ski areas in the East, we forget to mention
     WHITEFACE MOUNTAIN, in NY.  We did indeed forget.  The top
     altitude of WHITEFACE is 4,436 feet which puts it higher than
     Sugarloaf and Killington, but still not in the top five.  Thanx,
     Steve.    [So much data, so little time!]


 e.  SINGLE CHAIRS - While rummaging thru our files recently, we came
     across an article on Single Chairs in the U.S.  Oh, great, after
     posting the trivia question and posting the "correct answers",
     now we find the "real" answers!  Actually, it wasn't too
     embarrassing.  They listed KRATKA RIDGE, CA, EAGLE ROCK, WY, and
     MAD RIVER GLEN, VT, all of which we had.  But they also listed MT
     EYAK, in Cordova, Alaska.  Our research shows that, yes, MT EYAK 
     does have a single chair - however, the area doesn't seem to have
     operated since 1980.  Maybe the chair still stands.  BTW, the
     article was about KRATKA RIDGE and they seem determined to
     outlast all other areas and have the only single chair in the
     U.S..  FWIW, their chair was built in 1950.    [Is it proper
     skiing etiquette to yell "SINGLE!" in a single chair lift line?]



6.  SKI AREA NEWS

 a.  COLORADO update.  In one of our "What's New" posts we stated that
     BRECKENRIDGE planned to open some more bowl skiing on Peak 7 in a
     former out of bounds area.  They were waiting for Forest Service
     approval.  We mentioned that KEYSTONE was planning the same thing
     - off the back side of The Outback - but not until next season. 
     Well, surprise!  The new "hike up, ski down, and ski back to the
     lifts" area behind The Outback is now open.  Anyone tried it? 
     Meanwhile, the BRECK expansion hasn't been approved.



7.  EPILOG


 a.  Thanks for providing your city name in E-Mails to us.  BTW, you
     only have to do it once - we keep records.  

 b.  We are still working on more of your suggested trivia questions. 
     There are some good ones that we plan to use as we do the
     research and find the space.


       THIS IS OUR LAST POST FOR 1992.  HAPPY HOLIDAYS!


     Cheers from THE COLORADO SKIER


       "Everywhere is walking distance if you have the time."

                             Steven Wright
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