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From: kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: all you guys read this the edited version
Date: 28 Sep 92 02:38:32 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1a5kbiINNh6k@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bs753@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brett J Grimes) writes:
>
>My comments were not pin pointed to everyone who has a system in there
>car just the ones who have that rap shit. I myself like to hear the

You posted to this newsgroup, therefore, you offended everyone.

>bass but also like to here mids and highs. i have a eclipse head unit 
>with a precision power eq going to a set of rockford fosgate punch 75's
>they then go to a pair of mb quart 5 1/4's and 1" inch tweeters and the 
>other amp go's to a pair of 12" jl audios in a isobaric box. and the are

After reading your idiotic post, I really don't care what you have in your
car. 

>all crossed over by a coustic xm3. Im new on this sig and didn't know
>it was censored. to all that took my comments in the wrong way, if you 
>don't listen to the rap music you shouldn't have replied. it didn't say 

Even though I don't like rap, I'd *LOVE* to drive by your house at 3 in the
morning and play some rap music really loud just to piss you off.

>to all of you guys with the radios cranked. it said to all you guys with
>the rap. If I pissed anyone of "sorry".

Your use of the English language says more about you than any of your
postings could.
>
>have a nice day 

F**k you too.
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: jreiser@scott.skidmore.edu (jason reiser)
Subject: Re: Alpine 3513 amp - good/bad? 
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:50:01 GMT

bell@asdsun.larc.nasa.gov (John Bell) writes:
> A friend of a friend has offered to sell an Alpine 3513 for $50...can anyone
> tell me anything about this amp? Specs? Good/bad experiences? Is this a good
> price/ripoff/waste of money? Thanks for the help.
> 

Alpine 3513 50 watt power amp
2 channels; bridgeable.  25 watts x 2 cont. avg into 4 ohms with .08%
THD, 35 watts x 2 avg into 2 ohms or 70 x 1 cont. avg into 4 ohms with
0.8% THD  Features Duo-Beta Feedback circuitry; no currect limiting;
discrete output circuitry; 12db/octave input line filtering.  RCA
connectors; continuously variable input sens. (100mv to 2v) S/N
105dBA; slew rate 5.
7 7/8 X 1 5/8 X 5 1/8 inches.
List price... $160  and it is in the '92 lineup.

Sorry, no experience with the amp.

				- Jason
jreiser@scott.skidmore.edu
From: znpt01@trc.amoco.com (Norman P. Tracy)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: DAT Royalty - Only on blank tape?
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:18:43 GMT
Organization: Amoco Production Company, Tulsa Research
Originator: znpt01@gpss43


In article <1992Sep28.165922.5140@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
> In article <Bv5pzu.DF5@encore.com>, mpalmer@encore.com (Mike Palmer) writes:
> |> Is the royalty only on blank tape?  What about pre-recorded tape?  If the
> |> latter is not taxed, then TDK could just record a 1Khz tone on the first
> |> 10 seconds of the tape - so now it's not blank - no royalty!
> 
> Better yet, why not put some demo songs on there and use the blank
> as a sampler tape ?  Sony could put excerpts from upcoming
> Sony/Columbia releases . They can promote new artists and save
> consumers the royalty tax !

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Paul & Shiv you guys just don't get it. Why on earth would Sony risk
incuring the wrath of whats left of the American recording industry
and the Nippon bashing Congress when as owners of the former CBS
records they get a big cut of the "tax"?  Anybody else notice how after
the RIAA helped torpedo the launch of DAT the Japanese electroic giants
started buying up record companies.  This is called covering all the bases,
hardware and software.  Now Sony Tape can sell you the blank tape or
MD and the US Treasury will help them transfer the royality tax funds
to Sony Records.

Sorry for the tone of this followup but this issue has me rather hot.

Norman Tracy (znpt01@trc.amoco.com)
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From: ianchan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ian Hin Yun Chan)
Subject: Preamps
Summary: What's hot around $500?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 19:10:03 GMT

I've been told that the preamp is one of the more important components in a
system, and I'd like to get some "public opinion" on two around the $500
price range. They are a) the Acurus L10 (I don't need phono inputs), and b)
the Parasound something-or-other (has a 700 or 900 in it, I think). What
would their respective sonic signatures be, and what kind of matching
power amps should I be looking at?
I read in a review that the L10 is designed by an ex-Krell engineer, and that
it uses Krell topology and high quality components, which of course sounds
irresistable. The Parasound, on the other hand, may be more matched to their
own power amps, which I am considering because of their high current
capability (I'm going to get a subwoofer, you see...).
I would greatly appreciate any comments on the two, as well as suggestions
of alternatives.

- Ian
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: ec49726@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Manny C. )
Subject: Re: Satellite Systems
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 21:24:30 GMT

tchen@bagpipe.reed.edu (Timothy Chen) writes:


>How about a Velodyne Sub and 2 pairs of B&W Rock Solid Speakers for front  
>and rear channel.(one pair costs about $275 in the west coast). I think  
>this is a very nice combination.

Not to boast but I've just changed from a Bose system to a VDyne and a 
pair of B&W 600's. After 5 months of listening to virtually every sat/sub
system made, I think the combo I put together was an excellent buy.
(approx $850 altogether)

Manny

-- 
Manny Chen                                   |  Life is what happens while 
NREMT-A, CPR - Instructor  American Red Cross|  you're making other plans.
University Of Illinois @ Urbana - Champaign  |      
Illini Emergency Medical Services            |    ec49726@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: ccheng@mips.com
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Mail order company for B&W
Date: 7 Oct 1992 01:29:21 GMT
Organization: Mips Technologies, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: ccheng@mips.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: wildcat.mti.sgi.com


I was about to mail order a pair of B&W 630 speakers from the Sound City
when I learnt of their bad reputation in this newsgroup. So if you know 
of any good mail order companies for the B&W, would you please send me
an email?

Apart from the speakers, I am also interested in the NAD and Rotel
receivers. Do you have any suggestion of mail order companies for them?

Thanks in advance.

Cheng. 

Xref: sparky rec.audio:13416 rec.video:12045
From: huibingz@acpub.duke.edu (Huibing Zhang)
Newsgroups: rec.audio,rec.video
Subject: Thanks for info on DCM
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:57:35 GMT
Followup-To: poster


Hi, I posted a message on DCM speakers several days ago and
received the following resposes from Doug,Pat,Rich and Al.
I thank them all for their very helpful information. 

From dhs@cs.utexas.edu Sun Oct  4 15:22:31 1992

DCM is an Ann Arbor company that has been around for around 15
years. At one time (late '70s, early '80s), they used to be
state of the art in their price range, but are no longer 
considered to be at that level. DCM made a conscious decision
about 6 years ago to start selling to the Ollie Fretter/Circuit
City/??? superstore crowd, as opposed to the high-end stores.
Their speakers are still quite good, and at superstore prices
can be an excellent bargain when they are *really* priced
on-sale.
Doug


From prmiskel@crdec6.apgea.army.mil Tue Oct  6 09:33:09 1992

I purchased DCM Time Window speakers many years (15???) ago
and they are still going strong, sounding great.

Will you post a resume of your responses to the net?

Pat Miskelly


From rg@atoll.navo.navy.mil Tue Oct  6 11:40:58 1992

I am not familar with the speakers your are looking at, but I used to have
a pair of DCM Time window 1's and really liked them.  I am currently
looking at Time Window 3A's.  DCM seems to be marketed by appliance
stores (FRED SCHMIDT, Circuit City), these days.  I know that ther
high end speakers sound very good.  

good luck.
rich garrett

From alanr@tekig5.pen.tek.com Tue Oct  6 12:39:13 1992

Hello, I have a 10 year old pair of DCM Time Window speakers that I just
love and am real happy with.  That's why I've kept them for 10 years.
The Time Windows are still in production.  I don't know anything about the
model number you referred to, but just wanted to give you one data point
to go by.

Happy listening,
Al Rovner
Tektronix Test & Measurement Group
From: kurts@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Kurt Strain)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:45:54 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Very expensive cables (oh Gawd, when will it end?)
Organization: Outpost 1T
From: jim@coral.aiss.uiuc.edu (jim crouse)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Klipsch Again
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:53:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvEspy.1q9
Reply-To: jim@coral.aiss.uiuc.edu
Organization: AISS/Telecom University of Illinois -- Urbana-Champaign


 Any Klipsch 5.2 or 4.2 owners out there ?
 I have read the reviews of these as well as listen
  to a pair of the 4.2's. Are you happy/unhappy, think
 there is something better in this price range.
 They did sound good and the store has a trde in policy
 that you can upgrade within a year and they will give
 you what you paid on them for upgrading.


 jim
From: eric@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Eric Hansen)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Audio equipment forsale (repost)
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:27:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: galileo.1992Oct5.212711.4914
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York


Hi,
  I have the following stereo equipment for sale.  Please email me if you are
interested or want more information.  The prices listed are what I'd like to
get, but I'll take best offers.  Price is without shipping.

*** SAE A205 Dual High Resolution Power Amplifier ***
Specs:  Switchable 200/100 watts per channel class-A circuitry,
0.025% IMD, 125 dB S/N (A-weighted).  2 db headroom.
It is nearly three years old and in excellent condition.  >>>> $300 <<<< 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

*** Proton P1100 Preamplifier ***
Specs:  THD and IMD 0.003%, 105 dB S/N. (line source).
Has record and listen selectors.  Inputs for phono (accepts MM & MC), tape1,
tape2, tuner, CD, video.  Bass, treble and balance knobs.  Subharmonic filter,
Bass EQ swith, mute switch.  Two levels of preamp-out, both gold plated RCA.
It is nearly three years old and in excellent condition.  >>>> $150 <<<<
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

*** BSR DAK1 Variable-frequency noise reduction system ***
Specs:  THD and IMD < 0.1%, variable frequency cutoff from 800 
Hz to 20 kHz, effective noise reduction up to 40 dB.
Provides noise reduction without the use of recorded formatting (such as
Dolby B & C).  When I took the cover off (I was curious), there were a bunch
of "dbx" chips inside.  Email for more info and "listening" information.
Three years old, in excellent condition.>>>> $75 <<<<
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I am selling this equipment because I have upgraded to new speakers and amp.
I no longer use a preamp (since I run direct from my CD player).

- Eric

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From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Recordable CD vs MD and DCC
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:32:41 GMT

In article <25757@oasys.dt.navy.mil> curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch) writes:

>And most the recorders I've read about are WORM drives (write once, read
>many).  These units have their uses, but an $10K WORM drive isn't too
>attractive for home use.
>
>Are there any affordable re-recordable CD drives out these days?

I don't know about re-recordable, but one of the computer
dealer trade mags I saw recently had the Panasonic unit at a
little under $6000.   Wrote CD-ROMS, CD-I, and CD audio.



-- 
Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.oau.org  bill.vermillion@oau.org
                - bill@bilver.uucp 
                - ..!{peora|ge-dab|tous|tarpit}!bilver!bill
From: stud1b53@bnr.ca (Anshu Prasad)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Sorry, but I'm not who it says...
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:36:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: bmerh85.1992Oct05.183624.10304
Reply-To: stud1b53@bnr.ca (Vilhelm Boggild)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.


  As a temporary employee, I'm afraid I don't own my own
ID as far as the corporation is concerned.  I forgot to
over-ride this on my last post.  I am not Vilhelm Boggild
(he's my manager).  Sorry about any confusion.

-- 
Anshu Prasad
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
From: brad@ssd.intel.com (Brad Rullman)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Nakamichi 2 reviews? (Also: Sony DAT?)
Date: 4 Oct 92 02:14:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: SSD.1992Oct4.021441.19487
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division, Intel Corp.

In article <BvJ2F5.DFx@news.cso.uiuc.edu> davidric@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (david ricardo) writes:
>I am in the market for a good cassette recorder and of course I would
>like to buy the Nakamichi Cassette Deck 1, but it is beyond my budget
>($840). However Nakamichi does make a model called the Cassette Deck
>2. It is not a three head and does not have HX Pro. ($380) However,
>is Nakamichi engineering in cassette decks so superior that this unit
>outperforms
>competitively priced 3head HX pro units?

I am also interested in responses to this question.  I'm actually
thinking about getting the Nakamichi Cassette Deck 1.5, which is
essentially the same as the 1 except it has a playback azimuth
control, which I probably won't use too much.

By the way, at a local store on sale the Nak 1 is 699, the Nak 1.5 499.
They are getting ready for the new models this fall, so have these
on sale.

Of course, if I'm going to spend $500 I could just about get a 
Sony DAT (the DTC-670) for $550.

Any suggestions?  I'm interested in accurate record/playback, not
whizzy features.

Thanks...

Brad Rullman                      Intel Supercomputer Systems Division CO1-01
brad@ssd.intel.com                15201 Greenbrier Parkway
(503) 629-4309                    Beaverton, OR  97006-5771
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From: MATGBB@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU (BYRNES,Graham)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: cables/speakers
Date: 5 Oct 92 08:55:07 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

OK, I've decided to tread carefully in the cable debate. This is not meant to
be fuel to anyone bonfire, but a few people have asked questions around this
area. You might like to read it in conjunction with Brendan's post of a way
back on cable measurements, or the little book that was attached to a recent
copy of Hi Fi Choice, giving RLC measurements on a whole bunch of cables.
Question is, just how does ordinary lumped element linear theory predict
the cable/speaker interface will behave?

PLEASE NOTE: I am not claiming (here) anything about the validity of that
model.

Suppose you have a perfect amplifier (sigh!), ie zero output impedance.
Then the impedance measured at the end of the speaker cable should be due
to the cable alone. Let that complex impedance be A (or A(w) if you need to be
reminded). Let the terminal impedance of your speakers be Z(w).
(You might look at the complex Z plots in Audio, or plot the impedance
functions given by Otala in JAES, June 87 to get an idea).

Then the response change at a given freq. w, relative to connecting
direct to your perfect amp, is given in dB by

20*log{|Z|/|Z+A|}=D(w), say.

Now set B=10^(D/10). Then the deviation from perfection is less than D if 
1/B< |Z/A|^2  / |Z/A+1|^2  < B.

Write Z/A=x+iy (or jy for the engineers...),
this gives the 2 conditions

{x+(B/(B-1))}^2+y^2 > B/(B-1)^2

{x-(1/(B-1))}^2 +y^2 > B/(B-1)^2.

That is, ratio of Z to A must lie outside two circles in the comple plane,
with centre on the real axis and radius the square root of the RHS

A few values: for 1dB deviation, B=1.259
(x+4.88)^2+y^2>(4.35)^2
(x-1.72)^2+y^2>  "

For .5dB, B=1.12
(x+9.33)^2+y^2>(8.82)^2
(x-8.33)^2+y^2>  "

For .2dB, B=1.047
(x+22.28)^2+y^2>(21.77)^2
(x-21.28)^2+y^2>(21.77)^2
                  
As a crude eg, the worst of impedance for a 5m cable in the HF choice book
was about .6 ohm at 20k, nearly all inductive. The Martin Logan Monolith III
(I got the numbers wrong alst time I did this I think) is down to about 1R4,
almost purely resistive. So Z/A=-2.3i (roughly), it doesn't quite make the
.5dB limit, but comes in under 1dB (actually about 0.7dB).

You should be able to play about with this on your speadsheet if you can get
some approx to Z and A, plotting D against w.

Note that to get 3dB, B=2,, so
(x+2)^2+y^2>2
(x-1)^2+y^2>2.
These are necessarily satisfied if |Z/A|>3.4.
So with the cable given above, this could never happen unless |Z| drops below
2ohms (purely imaginary, to get this worst case).

Have fun y'all
Graham B

(I reserve the right to make mistakes...)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: mary@wam.umd.edu (Mary Louise Cassidy)
Subject: Re: Maxell XL-II better than Maxell XL-IIS?!
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 06:57:23 GMT

Nonononono..!  I'm sure everyone would like to know about this..

Depending on the source..the tapes I use most are XLIIs or XLIIS'...(sp???)

What does everyone else use....is metal worth it??  I've heard Sony UX-Pros
are good also...??

Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: pavneet@cyantic.com (Pavneet Arora)
Subject: Was there a follow up to the Amrita speakers query?
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:23:52 GMT

Someone recently posted an intriguing query on Amrita speakers (made in
Iowa?).

Unfortunately, our site ages news very quickly so I don't know if
there were any opinions posted on Amrita speakers.  If anyone kept
some of the responses or knows the address of the company, I'd be
grateful if they could mail them to me.

advTHANKSance

-- 
Cheers,
  - pavneet
.................................................................
Pavneet Arora -- pavneet@cyantic.com ------------ CYANTIC Systems
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: gds@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (glenn.d.strouse)
Subject: Re: Sound City -- Mail Order
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 20:11:02 GMT


 I also had a bad experience with Sound City. I bought a pair of Altec Lansing
 speakers from them. The speakers must have been a demo pair. The serial 
numbers on the beat up boxes that they were shipped in did not match the
numbers on the speakers. When I called they denied everything. After getting
knowhere with them, they said that they would send a set of head phones to me
that they were running a special on, free of charge. They told me that they retailed for $80.0
. Since the speakers sounded fine, I thought why not. Well, the head phones
looked like they cost about $2.00. They were junk. Needless to say they will
never get my business again. 

  A company that I have purchased from in the past and have had VERY GOOD 
prices and service is W.D.S. (Wisconsin Discount Stereo). It now seems to
be out of business. I tried to call and all the phone numbers I have used in the
past are now disconnected.  Does anyone have any information?


Glenn Strouse



From: tnguyen@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Thinh Nguyen)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 23:48:54 GMT
Subject: R-R Multitrack Tape Recorder FOR SALE
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.audio



    FOR SALE DOKORDER-1140 R&R Multitrack Recorder.

         - 4 track R-R recorder, using both 10.5" and 7" reel.
         - Ping/pong'able between tracks
         - Punch in/out, tape editing feature.
         - Make by Onkyo (same as Akai) for professional use.
         - It's old (over 10 yrs old) but elec.&mechan. is in good cont.
         - Can be rack mounting, wood grain, and look beautiful(IMHO). 
         - Come with manual, and about 20 of 10.5" pre-record reels.
        Price: $300.

   
     Email mail me if you're interested, shipping is not include.
      
     Email address: tnguyen@hpuxps.cup.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: gfl@hera.uucp (22402-lenahan)
Subject: Re: Speaker recommendation ($1500/pair)
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 13:25:26 GMT
Summary: suggestions

alh@einoed.in-berlin.de (Adrian Le Hanne) writes:
> Hi,
> i'm looking for a pair of speakers, obviously. I don't want to spend
> more than $1500/$2000 a pair. Speakers, that i already put in a closer
> selection (still have to listen to them, though), are the B&W DM 640 and 
> the Infinity RS60. Other recommendations are appreciated, but keep in mind
> that i must be able to get them here in europe.

Adrian-

I would look very carefully at the Thiel cs2.2s (new).  The
first speaker from Thiel with bass.  Very nice.

Also, you might consider the B&W 803/804 (don't remember which
is at your price point), particularly since they may be
cheaper in the Common Market than in the USA.

At $1500 ish, the new Vandersteen 2Ce is very "friendly" sounding,
with good bass for its price.  It fails by being veiled and
overly "sweet".  This is only compared to really good speakers,
however; not vs. mass-market junk.

Grant


Newsgroups: rec.audio,sci.electronics,rec.audio.pro
From: evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans)
Subject: Re: question about Technics SL1200 MK2
Organization: Aston University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 09:06:39 GMT

bender@oobleck (Duke of Canterbury) writes:
: My roomate has two Technics SL1200 MKII turntables that he uses for DJ work,
: and he's noticed that the pitch controls on the two don't correspond.  For
: example, when they are both at 0, the table speed is correct, but when he
: moves them both to +4, one table is considerably slower (or faster?) than
: the other.  Is there a pitch control scale adjustment that can be made?  He
: doesn't have the service manual, and asked me to post to see if anyone had
: any advice before he went out and plunked down $30 for a service manual.

The scale is distinctly non linear, if you want to know the exact speed
then look at the dots on the side of the platter.

For a conversion table you will need to make one yourself, use a test record
having a single tone and a frequency meter.

Knowing the absolute speed is not usually necessary as beat matching 
is done by ear.
Anyway much more than 2% speed change on most records is clearly
audiable.
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From: mirsky@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (David Joshua Mirsky)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Cheap Walkman Speakers Wanted
Date: 27 Sep 92 16:23:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: mintaka.1992Sep27.162332.5451
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science

Hi. I just bought a SOny discman. Im interested in buying
a pair of walkman speakers which have a small, built-in
amp. If anyone has a pair to sell, please send me email.

Thanks
David
mirsky@gnu.ai.mit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.audio