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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Genealogy prog.
From: withers_n@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:45:44 NZST
Organization: Welligton City Council, Public Access.
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz


Does anyone here know if there was a Commodore version (64 or 128) of
the genealogy
program 'Compute your Roots'? Iused it quite a lot when I had an
800XL but then defected to Commodore and I can't find a genealogy
program I liked as much as the Atari one.
If anyone knows the answer I would be grateful if they could let
me know.
Thanks,

Nick Withers.
From: aa700@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Current)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Test
Date: 12 Jan 1993 15:38:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa700@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Current)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, b.marcum@genie.geis.com () says:

>This message was posted by mailing to comp-sys-atari-8bit@cs.utexas.edu .
> 
>Bill Marcum  bmarcum@world.std.com  bmarcum@delphi.com  b.marcum@genie.geis.com
>

And it appeared on comp.sys.atari.8bit!!  Let's have a round of applause
for Bill!!  comp.sys.atari.8bit/Info-Atari8 Digest lives!!

I'm happy now.
-- 
         Michael Current, Cleveland Free-Net 8-bit Atari SIGOp
Carleton College, Northfield, MN, USA / UUCP: ...!umn-cs!ccnfld!currentm
      Internet: currentm@carleton.edu / Cleveland Free-Net: aa700
From: Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Where can I get 8Bit carts or disks?
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 22:29:11 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1993Jan9.052338.529@mtu.edu>

You could also FTP to the Sparc machine, use mtools on the Sparc to write
a 3.5" floppy in MS-DOS format, then carry that floppy to a PC that had
a 3.5" floppy AND a 360K (?) 5.25" floppy drive and use UTIL.EXE on the PC
to copy the files from the 3.5" floppy-in-MSDOS-format to the 5.25" floppy
in double-density AtariDOS / MyDOS format...  That's a lot of specialized
pieces, but if you can get 'em all in the same place at the same time, 
data throughput is higher than UUencoding and null-modeming...

Just my $.02

Chris Chiesa
  Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: djg0@aber.ac.uk (Dean John Garraghty)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: S.A.M
Date: 12 Jan 93 13:22:47 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

The SAM manual is currently 75% in English, with the rest being translated
now. I am responsible for the editing of the manual, which I am doing at the
moment. The programs are also being changed to have messages etc. in English.
I will also be responsible for SAM's UK distribution.

Dean Garraghty. djg0@aber.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: niceswangern@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: First Xlent WP (Was Re: Wish List)
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:17:53 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

In article <Jim_Johnson.0bz3@abcd.Houghton.MI.US>, Jim_Johnson@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Jim Johnson) writes:
> An earlier message discussed the availability of XLent's word processor. I
> never used their word processor, but XLent's database application,
> MegaFiler was quite nice for a low end product. In many ways it was much
> better than SynFile+ - AND MegaFiler would run under SpartaDOS, which also
> meant it could run from a hard drive.
> 
The First Xlent Word Processor is just that - excellent.  I have used it 
for about five years and it has served all of my needs just fine.  It has 
some unique features in: joystick control, double column option, graphics 
capabilities, and a screen that will print your document in 80 columns -
without an XEP80!

It will also work with most of Xlent's other programs I believe.  There's 
probably some other options on it too, but I mostly just use it for simple 
letters or assignments.

If you're wondering about cost, I think I bought it for $22 in 1987.

				\ |    \ |
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				    Somers, Iowa

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: bbs@neb (BBS System 801-572-4969)
Subject: AC Article
Organization: Nebula - Public Access Unix/bbs SLC Ut, USA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:23:52 GMT

Jeff Potter:
 
Seeing as how you are the AC graphics and entertainment editor; how
would it be if I submitted to you a complete review of Alternate
Reality, the Dungeon - to include full drawn out maps, documentation,
hints, tips, etc..?
 
I could send this to you via GEnie or US Mail, you can edit the file -
and determine whether or not its worth submission.
 
Sound good?
James King aka Kamaro Kid, SysOp of the Korner BBS @ 801-969-1938.
GEnie: J.King73, Internet: neb!bbs!1fa@uplherc.upl.com
-----
Posted by BBS User: James King
Mail Path: uplherc.upl.com!neb!bbs!1fa
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: ab588@yfn.ysu.edu (joseph sabatino)
Subject: AGDADEMO.UUE (arc) multi-machine game
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 23:21:49 GMT


I just uploaded (bart style) the new multi-machine, multi-player
game AGDADEMO.ARC to the archive. I don't know when he will put it
up but it in his mail box right now....the following is the blurb
from GEnie:

*********************************
AGDADEMO.ARC
Address: JDPOTTER                Date: 921230
Approximate # of bytes: 13184
 
Description:
This is a demo version of the soon to be released "Maze of Agdagon" multi-
player real-time graphics maze game.  This lets you get a taste of how the
game dynamics work.  Please leave feedback here in the "computer games" forum
(section 4) until a section is set up in the AGDA forum (section 11).
Enjoy!
*********************************
-- 
Joe Sabatino-->ab588@yfn.ysu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: snyder10@convex1.tcs.tulane.edu (sherry snyder)
Subject: Qwk's
Organization: Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 04:09:29 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-1053]: convex1.tcs.tulane.edu

Rather than answer this in E-mail, i decided to just make it easy and send
a standard Qwk packet to the archives as a sample to be used with either
PabQwk or QwkSilver.  This packet was made 01/12/93 from ZnetOnline.

Enjoy

Mike Todd
Atari Archives 
Louisiana

______________________________________________________________________________
  Sherry L. Snyder L.P.N.                         Mike Todd - Publications.
  Tulane Dept. of Dermatology                    Tulane Dept. of Dermatology
  snyder10@convex1.tcs.tulane.edu                dt01mws@music.tcs.tulane.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Atari 800 Expansion Port
From: <SML108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 16:06:52 EST
Organization: Penn State University

Does anyone know why Atari decided to hide the Atari 800's full expansion
port (Take yours apart and be really amazed) inside the Atari 800 rather
than leaving it on the outside?  It seems like it was a really stupid
move on their part...

Scott
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: bbs.maddox@tsoft.net (Otto Maddox)
Subject: Bbs software..
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 03:53:49 GMT

I'm looking for Bbs software for my good old Atari 800.

If you have anything send me some mail.

Otto Maddox 
[ bbs.maddox@tsoft.net ] [ maddox@west.darkside.com ]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: bmarcum@world.std.com (Bill Marcum)
Subject: Re: 8" disk drives
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 06:45:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan2.040924.15064@neb> bbs@neb (BBS System 801-572-4969) writes:
>jack holt:
> 
>do you happen to know if the mio will run an 8" drive? if so, how could
>this be accomplished? i dont yet own an atr8000 - else i'd probably be
>able to figure out this installation. right now, though -- i'm running
>on: 256k mio, 1050 happy, 1meg 130xe, hayes 9600 modem. 

The MIO does not interface to floppy drives, only hard drives.
(and, of course, printers and modems.)

Bill Marcum  bmarcum@world.std.com
From: aa700@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Current)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: BART mailer at atari.archive
Date: 8 Jan 1993 04:02:45 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa700@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Current)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, Dag.Hugdahl@tdkt.kksys.com (Dag Hugdahl) says:

>Arggh... this is frustrating for me, but could anyone REMIND me of the correct
>address for file requests (not FTP, but the mailer) at atari.archive?  I just
>moved and can't find the info.

BART is atari@atari.archive.umich.edu
-- 
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Carleton College, Northfield, MN, USA / UUCP: ...!umn-cs!ccnfld!currentm
      Internet: currentm@carleton.edu / Cleveland Free-Net: aa700
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: troyer@nynexst.com (Tom Royer)
Subject: Need pinout for 850 parallel port please...
Organization: NYNEX Science & Technology Center
Posting-Front-End: GNU Emacs 18.55.2 of Tue Mar 20 1990 on oberon (berkeley-unix)
Date: 12 Jan 93 10:14:02

Hello,

   Could someone please mail me the pinout for the parallel port on the 850 interface?

Thanks much,

-Tom Royer
 troyer@nynexst.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: hemstree@lamar.acns.colostate.edu (Charles Hemstreet)
Subject: Looking for Robotron 2084...
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 02:50:14 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University



Sorry if this isn't the best place to post this...

I used to have an Atari 400 that had a plug-in cartridge for Robotron
2084.  I am interested in creating a shareware version of this game
but barely remember how it played?  Does anyone know if this already
exists in software?  Does anyone know where I can get an Atari 400 and
the Robotron 2084 cartridge?

Any help is appreciated,

Charles
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: detobin@unix2.tcd.ie (the ZIG..)
Subject: 1050 Stepper.
Summary: A stepper motor problem.
Keywords: stepper
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:12:20 GMT

Has anyone had problems with the stepper motor in the 1050
drive. The one in our drive at home died, the magnet on the
spindle cracked and came off, however we fixed it with
superglue. So what I want to Know is if this is a common problem
and if it can be prevented, or what caused the problem at all
(it is possible that the drive was dropped from a height,
younger brothers you know). More importantly can this stepper or
an equivalent be purchased (N.B. I live in Ireland).

Donal.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: FORTH-83 for Atari 8-bit; anyone interested?
Keywords: FORTH, infix, postfix, parser, PASCAL
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 04:55:07 GMT


It is most certainly possible to create an infix parser for FORTH; in
the days when BYTE Magazine occasionally covered the competition
between Atari, Amiga and Apple for the pre-eminent 68000-based
computer (interesting... All three names start with an "A"), there was
actually a column by Dick Pountain that typically presented FORTH
stuff.  

One issue presented an infix converter for mathematical expressions.
I seem to remember the "total converter" weighing in at under 1 screen
of code.

The problem is that what you REALLY want is to be able to arbitrarily
move between POST and IN-FIX entry of information.

It's easy to make a parser that will read in NUMBERS, and perform
operations using the operators (, ), +, -, *, /.  It's probably nearly
trivial to extend this to allow the use of CONSTANT values, and
perhaps the "IMMEDIATE VARIABLES" that are often called QUANS.

To extend it to regular variables (for which you'd get the value by:
MYVARIABLE @ ) is extremely nontrivial.

If you want to get more information, you might want to head over to
the newsgroup Comp.lang.forth.

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University of Ottawa              | Genius may have its limitations, but
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From: Rick_Michael_Cortese@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: 800XL expansion port
Date: Wed,  6 Jan 93 09:40:53 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

There is one other alternative. You can hack a joystick cable for about
$2 & use it to tie into the IBM's serial port. There's a couple of
handlers that will work with this set-up. Chilcott (SP?) is one. You're
limited to 300 baud for Xmodem transfers though.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: jjmcwill@mtu.edu (Jeff McWilliams)
Subject: Re: Where can I get 8Bit carts or disks?
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 05:23:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.154659.10178@ttinews.tti.com> bellas@soldev.TTI.COM (Pete Bellas) writes:
>I too just dug out my old Atari 1200XL. Are there any sources for software/
>game cartridges or disks (I have a 1050). I don't think I can download
>software as all our hardware here is Spark (although I could get access to
>a PC or Mac if there is a way to write Atari disks on them). Any pointers
>would be appreciated. Thanks.
>
>			-Pete-
>
>
>* Pete Bellas                   "Cogito ergo spud"                         *
>* Citicorp/TTI                       I think therefore I yam.              *
>* Santa Monica, CA                                                         *
>* bellas@gamma.tti.com                                                     *

Pete,

If you have a modem connected to your 1200XL, you could use Kermit-65
to transfer files from your Sparc to your computer.

I finally found an ARCing utility that I successfully compiled on 
our Sparcs in the EE department.. funny, the NeXT machines choke on the
same set of code.. some compatibility!  Anyway, that way, you could
FTP directly to atari.archive.umich.edu, use binary mode to get the stuff,
and de-arc it on your sparc to look at it if you want.  THen, uuencode
the arced file, and use Kermit-65 to transfer it to your 8 bit computer.
Then you uudecode it and use SuperUnarc from Bob Puff, and you're ready 
to go.

Of course, this all assumes you have a modem.

If not, there are programs that will write true double density Atari disks
on an IBM PC compatible.  You would need a true double density drive
though.  Stock 1050's only do single or 1 1/2 density.

By the way, folks.  If you have trouble getting hooked up to 
atari.archive.umich.edu.. you can also try wuarchive.wustl.edu, 
in mirrors/atari.archive.umich/atari/8bit/  as it is the same stuff.
I think maybe atari archive tells you this when you try to connect
for anonymous FTP and there are already too many users.
Bart seems to be working again, which is good news if you don't have 
FTP access.

Jeff McWilliams

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From: Jim_Johnson@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Jim Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Wish List 
Distribution: world
Date: 6 Jan 93 21:03:11 EST
Organization: Amiga BitSwap Central Dispatch

An earlier message discussed the availability of XLent's word processor. I
never used their word processor, but XLent's database application,
MegaFiler was quite nice for a low end product. In many ways it was much
better than SynFile+ - AND MegaFiler would run under SpartaDOS, which also
meant it could run from a hard drive.

As for word processors I used three: AtariWriter Plus (AW+), TextPro Plus
(TP+), and PaperClip 3.0 (PC).  The best and the worst was PC. The built-in
DOS was a royal pain in the behind, but it was the most powerful of the
three. I did figure out a way to make it run like streaked lightning tho'.

I DiskCom'ed the program and dictionary disks and kept the files on my hard
drive which ran under SpartaDOS X. I also had a one meg MIO with several
standard floppy size ramdrives. I wrote a SDX batch file which 
1. ran a utility to "format" my MIO ramdrives as AtariDOS directory
structure drives.
2. "Unpacked" my PC disks from the hard drive into the MIO ramdrives.
3. ran a utility to renumber the system drives with the "PC" drives as 1&2.
4. rebooted the system.

PaperClip loaded almost instantaneously from the MIO ramdrive. I then
requested to look up a word in the spellchecker. Because my 130XE had 320K
of RAM, the entire dictionary was then loaded at high speed from the MIO
into the extra memory on the 130XE. I then manually popped up the MIO drive
configuration menu and put my real floppy drive as 2.

The system performed a reset as I returned to PaperClip, but the spelling
dictionary was already loaded into the 130XE's ram.

The above process took a total of 20-30 seconds and the result was a very
high speed word processor with NO disk shuffling.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.995

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from Calumet, Michigan, USA -the world's former copper mining capital, 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit,misc.forsale
From: robby@brahms.udel.edu (Robert Spotts)
Subject: FOR SALE: Atari 800XL System
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:41:10 GMT



	HARDWARE

	Atari 800XL 64K
	Atari 1050 Disk Drive (light use)
	Atari 1030 Modem (300 baud)
	Atari 410 Program Recorder
	2 Atari Joysticks
	Dust covers for the 800XL, 1050, & the 1030

	SOFTWARE

	Cartridges:
	Assembler Editor (Origial Documentation)
	Buck Rogers Plant of Zoom
	Centipede
	Defender
	Dig Dug
	Donkey Kong
	Pole Position
	Major League Hockey (Thorn EMI Video)
	Soccer (Thorn EMI Video)

	Diskette
	Atari Home Filing Manager		Atari Piant
	HardBall (Accolade)			Slime (Synapse)
	Crossfire (On-line Systems)		Axis Assassin(Electronic Arts)
	F15 Strike Eagle			Hard Hat Mack(Electronic Arts)
	The Tail of Beta Lyrae (Datamost)       Sleazy Adventure(APX)
	Nightraiders (Datamost)
	The Cosmic Tunnels (Datamost)
	Magneto Bugs (Gentry)
	Gauntlet (Mindscape)
	Music Construction Set (Electronic Arts)

	Cassette 	BlackJack Tutor (APX)
			BlackJack Casino (APX)
			Space Chase (APX)
			Shooting Gallery (Analog Software)
			Protector (Synapse)
			Shamus (Synapse)
			Chicken (Synapse)
			Ghost Hunter (arcade Plus)

	Other Software

	Rainbow, Encounter, Starfire, Fireone, Bruce lee, Pitfall 2
	Mario Brothers, Caverns of Mars, Stellar Shuttle, Repton,
	Joust, Cobra, Draper Pascal, Baseball, Football, Worm War 2, Chess
	Breakout, Pitstop 2, RiverRaid, Canyon Climber, Nite Mission Pinball
	Canyon Climber 2, Ms Pacman, Moon Patrol, Kangaroo, Astroids,
	Milliped, Space Invaders, Donkey Kong Jr, Up Up & Away, Jungle Hunt
	Vangaurd, Hi Low Same
	AND some PD software...

	I like to sell the above as a package deal. Best Offer...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: jjmcwill@mtu.edu (Jeff McWilliams)
Subject: Re: help needed with pinouts from 800xl to 25pin rs232 modem
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:33:31 GMT

In article <vuarien.2@cullion.incendiary.edu> vuarien@cullion.incendiary.edu (Jonathan Wild) writes:
>Need to hook up oldfashioned 25pin modem to the round-type modem jack on 
>back of 800xl.  Anyone got the pinouts?  Are there technical papers online
>at the ftp site ?  is 'the' ftp site the one at archive.umich?
>
>post replies to group.  email to this addr. will be lost.
>
>								eschew
>								obfuscation

Jonathan,

Well, it's not as simple as playing connect the dots between the SIO port
connector's pins and the pins on a DB25 connector on the back of your 
modem.  You need some sort of interface or cable that converts the
signals your Atari uses, into the signals the Modem uses, which 
adhere to a standard called RS232.

There are several devices that can do this, none that I've seen are do
it-your self kits... yet.  They are all commercial products.  Here
is a low down on most of the ones I am aware of, and what 
exactly they provide:

P:R: Connection, a little box that plugs into your SIO port, and 
gives you two RS232 (modem) ports, and a printer port.
This device was put out by ICD, Inc, but they no longer have them 
in stock.  best to check with one of the Mail Order houses.           

850 Interface, this one from Atari, it gave one printer and 4 RS232 
ports.  Same as above, check with mail order houses supporting the 8 bit.

Supra R-Verter--- a cable that plugs into the SIO port, and was a cable
with a modem port on the other end.  Same as above, look for a used 
one somewhere.  this will be the least expensive of them all.

MIO -  a box FROM ICD Inc, that plugs into the Parallel Bus connector
on the back of your 800XL, giving you Printer and Modem ports, and 
a SCSI/SASI hard drive connector.  in addition, the box has RAM memory
inside, which can be used as a print spooler and/or a RAMDISK.
The box cost from $150-$300 depending on the RAM configuration.
I think ICD might have one left... maybe not.

Black BOX - from Computer Software Services...Plugs into the Parallel 
Bus port like the MIO, and has Modem, Printer, and SCSI Hard disk
ports.  Also has some extra goodies, like a 6502 debugger,  Screen dump
utility, and an add on card that allows connection of IBM type 
floppy drives, either 5.25" or 3.5", from 360K on up to 1.44 meg.
The plane jane Black Box runs $199.95 I think, with enhanced 
printer dump routine, disk sector editor being one add-on extra, and
the Floppy Controller being another extra.  This one is still being
sold, and continually supported, with frequent improvements to the
product.

Hope this helps.


Jeff McWilliams


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: drudetb@infonode.ingr.com (Ted B. Drude)
Subject: Looking for Atari Artist Tablet and Cart
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:31:17 GMT

Some time back, there were two different people offering the Atari Artist
tablet and cartridge for sale on the net.  If anyone has a tablet and
cart still for sale,  please contact me. 

Thanks, 

- Ted Drude (drudetb@infonode.ingr.com)