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From: twm27@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: Re: chinese in malaysia
Reply-To: twm27@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 17:44:12 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.152728.1377@fuug.fi>, an1600@anon.penet.fi (homeless) writes:
>Dear all users of soc.culture.asean,
>
>At first I introduce my self that I am not a malaysians
>nor a chinese origin. But i want to know about the chinese
>people who are leaving in Malaysia.

	I can't seem to find a grain of truth here.

>
>The topics are :
>	- How many %(percent) of the inhabitant
>are chinese origin ?
>	- What is the position of chinese people in
>Malaysia. Do they have a possibility for a high rank
>position at the goverment or army, and if they have the 
>same right to access any public services ?.
>	- Are the most richest people in malaysia mostly chinese
>ethnic ?.
>	- Do the chinese people in Malaysia have a felling
>as a malaisians ?.
>	- How about the social contact between chinese people
>and others ?.
>	- What has the most chinese people religion (muslem, 
>christiant or others ? Are there any problem between the fellowers
>in Malaysia ?.
>
>Please send me an information and I am really sorry if I write
>something inproperly. Your information is very important for me.
>We all can also discuss this subject on this net.
>
>Thank You for the suggestions,
>
>syncerely yours,
>anno
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From: hra2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Hibatur Rahman Ahmad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Dvelopment in Malaysia: At what price?
Date: 23 Dec 92 07:03:00 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Dec22.052703.15270@sco.COM>, waseems@sco.COM (Waseem Siddiqi) wr
ites:
>********************************************************************
>             Deformities spark fears of 'new Minamata'
>                              by
>                      Charles P Wallace
>
>Taken without permission from The Toronto Star Dec 12, 1992
>********************************************************************
>
>Bukit Merah, Malaysia -
[ARTICLE DELETED]

Hi netters!  Thank you very much to Waseem who has posted a very important
article regarding the dumping of hazardous materials in Malaysia.  I just have
one question, does anyone know which Bukit Merah is that article referring to?
I just would like to know the specific locaton for that particular case.
Regardless of where it is, it is very important for us to speak up against
such act which will make this world less safer to live in.  If anyone has any
folow-up for that, please post to this net.  Thanks.

Hibatur Rahman Ahmad
From: esl_manager@gimme.uh.edu ()
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Recommend S'pore/M'sia restaurants
Date: 28 Dec 1992 19:45:24 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
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Keywords: Restaurants

Hi,

I was wondering if any of you guys out there can tell me if there is a
S'pore/M'sia 
restaurant(s) in Houston, Texas. Just wondering ... after reading a
previous posting
regarding a new S'pore/M'sia style restaurant in Berkeley, CA. I have
been to one
in Soutwest Houston, called Singapore Restaurant (owned by a M'sian) a
few years 
ago and I cannot find its listing in the Yellow Pages anymore. I guess
it must have 
left the business.
Please post and/or send your response directly to me.

--
Arthur Yeo
University of Houston - University park
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From: an2367@anon.penet.fi
Subject: wondering...
Organization: Anonymous contact service
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:09:54 GMT

I wonder what happen to Pak Othman...
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From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: Re: IN: Xanana interview - a forwarded msg
Organization: -=[ Curtin University of Technology ]=-  Perth  Australia
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:14:07 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.011506.18249@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, wns1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (WANTYA NAJADI SAPARDAN) writes:
> In article <1992Dec18.144634.1@cc.curtin.edu.au>, rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod
>  Swift) writes:
>>In article <KYTAN.92Dec14160958@mantra.fia.dmg.ml.com>, kytan@mantra.fia.dmg.ml
> .com (Kok-Yong Tan) writes:
>>> In article <1992Dec7.202058.120295@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> wns1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu
> (WANTYA NAJADI SAPARDAN) writes:
>>>
>>[stuff deleted]
>>>
>>>     How do you suppose to confirm that Xanana was under pressure?  How does
>>>     somebody outside that interview know that he was under pressure and
>>>     threatened?
>>
>>As I mentioned before....

>>It is apparent that Indonesia is forcing Gusmao to be a puppet for propaganda
>>to quell the struggle in East Timor.  Of course Gusmao is going to try every
>>attempt to say what he really thinks, given the chance.

> How can you confirm that? All of these are just some reports written by some
> "human rights nuts" western journalists.  "Law, Order, and Good For The Many"
> are the way to go.....

HOw can you confirm that the reports are not objective.  How do you know if the
journalist is a "human rights nut"?

Obviously, you have placed yourself in a catch-22 situation, as you either now
have to say the journalist is either objective, or a "human rights nut".  Pick
the first and you have a truthful account of the event.  Take the latter (which
you have) and you have just alluded to the fact that not only do you know, but
you also believe that human rights are being abused in Indonesia.

Choose now, and lose!

Rod
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From: desa@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Badrul Hisham Md Desa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: test,please ignore
Date: 30 Dec 1992 04:13:02 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: uwm
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Originator: desa@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

This is only a test, please ignore.

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From: twm27@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: Re: Re: JOHOR SULTAN beat up HOCKEY COACH (some clarifications)
Reply-To: twm27@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 02:03:31 GMT

In article <Bzy1Dz.MxK@news.iastate.edu>, twm27@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
>
>>>: has been convicted several times of punishable crimes, including
>>>           ^^^^^^^^^
>>>: manslaughter.
>>>: 
>>>: -- 
>>>:     Chong Chow Pin 
>>>:     University of Illinois
>>>:     email:  cpc30248@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu  
>>>:   
>>>
>>>  excuse moir, but could you please clarify this statement ? i clearly
>>>remember that in the m'sian federal constitution, the king or dymh yang
>>>dipertuan agong, is 'exempted' from all legal ac>>does not incite the involvement of any human rights movements. 
>>>
>>
>>When the present Sultan of Johor was convicted he was only a prince. Anyway,
>>he was granted a royal pardon by his father!
>>
>>>	High school in Malaysia are hiring foreign coach for their sports ?
>>
>>No, Gomez is not a foreigner, he was born in Malaysia. 
>>
>>>Dr.Mahathir.. has end the immunity of the Malay ruler... some people might
>>>think this is not a good idea...since the Sultan is some kind of symbol
>>>to Malays... but they , the Malay ruler, itself has forced the Malays to
>>>end it.... 
>>
>>Not yet. It is in the works. The latest meeting by all the mentris besar had
>>it that they all agreed to the change to the constitution in removing the
>>immunity of the sultans from prosecution. Hope that it will be backdated!
>>
>>
>>>	Just heard from a couple of friends.  Warrant is out.  Papers back home
>>>say that the police are going to the palace soon.  Rumour has it Brunei is a
>>>nice vacation spot...
>>>	Seems that if convicted, the Tengku cannot be pardoned by the Sultan
>>>alone, but need the consent of at least two other sultans.
>>>	Ciao.
>>
>>He had surrended to the police and the case was mentioned in court and it was
>>to be tried as a criminal case.

	Don't be alarmed guys. I'm just learning how to use editor. Wonder
if I can use the same editor in Mail?

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From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: Re: IN: Xanana interview - a forwarded msg
Organization: -=[ Curtin University of Technology ]=-  Perth  Australia
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 19:54:22 GMT

>         If you can't believe the Indonesian Gov't, how can you believe a Por-
>         tuguese journalist......come on, you actually believe a Portuguese
>         journalist???   I don't believe any of the reports........I will
>         believe what I see and hear first hand......

Ahh.  But can you tell me which one of the two has an instant vested
interest in the matter?

Rod
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From: psyctwo1@cc.newcastle.edu.au (PSYCTWO1)
Subject: Re: E. Timor & Indonesia
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 22:33:12 GMT

In article <c60a-nd.723922311@danube.Berkeley.EDU>, c60a-nd@danube.Berkeley.EDU (Enak A. Crispy) writes:
> bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:
> 
>>        Australians *do* consider the aborigines, do the Indonesians
>>give the Timorese and Irian Jayans the same consideration? You say Australians
>>aught be ashamed of the aborigional alcoholism problem. You suggest we do
>>something to correct that problem. What do you suggest we do? Create laws
>>that make it illegal for aborigines to drink alcohol? That's racial
>>discrimination, and you would no doubt be one of the first people to
>>criticise Australia for "another example of white oppression" if such laws
>>came into existance (they used to exist, but were removed).
> 
> How do you 'consider' the Aborigines??? capturing them as slaves or cheap

That was done years ago, and has since stopped.

> labor??? is there any Aborigins holding a governmental office either in

Yes.

> local or federal??? i.e, is there any Aborigin minister (instead of white 

Er, dunno.

> minister)??? is there any Equal Opportunity Program or Equal Employment 
> Opportunity Committee or such organizations in Australia to ensure that the
> Aborigins would not be rejected for job because of their race??? or probably

Yes.

> is it stated in your constitution that the Aborigins have the same right as 
> you guys...

Yes.

> 
>>        Australia has it's problems, but don't try to stand on "high moral
>>ground" when criticising Australia. Your high ground isn't as moral as you
>>seem to think it is.
> 
> THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ON THE TARGET, DUDE!!!! we say that to you now...
> Don't you Australians ever, ever, and ever criticizing indonesians or other 
> people on the way how we conduct our business or governmental issues...why???
> just read the paragraph above as you change the word australia to Indonesia.
> 
> Once i wondered that someday Indonesia would have to face Australia militarily
> because Australia is more likely becoming a  racist country. Just like South
> Africa...the native people own the land in the first place, but they're discri-
> minated against for many social and economic aspects, by the foreigners who
> came to their homeland and #$&@ up everything.
> 
> 
>>       Disclaimer. If you love your llama, let it lambada.
> 
>      Disclaimer. If you like your bull, let it be DA BULLS..... :-)


Hi guys, I'm back!

Fal.
From: an4206@anon.penet.fi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Books on Malaysia
Date: 30 Dec 92 07:29:00 GMT
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.asean


	Hello
		Could somebody please direct me to a couple of concise books
on the Bumiputhra policy in Malaysia.
			Thanks
			Nick

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From: zxa5@po.CWRU.Edu (Zulfakar Aspar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Hot Off the TV:Rashid Sidek wins Grand Prix Singles Finals (Men)
Date: 25 Dec 1992 01:17:58 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: zxa5@po.CWRU.Edu (Zulfakar Aspar)
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In a previous article, arthurc@solomon.technet.sg (Arthur!! Chai) says:

>Moments ago, Rashid Sidek of Malaysia won the men's singles final of the
>World Grand Prix badminton championships at Stadium Negara, K.Lumpur,
>Malaysia. He beat Alan Budi Kusuma (Olympics gold medallist?) of Indonesia
>with a score of 15-7, 5-15, 15-9.
>
>The doubles match will be played later tonite.
>
>Yay !!!!! A Proud Malaysian ;^)
>
>Arthur!!
>
>
	"Go Kampung boy, go ..."

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From: twm27@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: Re: Re: JOHOR SULTAN beat up HOCKEY COACH (some clarifications)
Reply-To: twm27@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 00:29:59 GMT


>>: has been convicted several times of punishable crimes, including
>>           ^^^^^^^^^
>>: manslaughter.
>>: 
>>: -- 
>>:     Chong Chow Pin 
>>:     University of Illinois
>>:     email:  cpc30248@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu  
>>:   
>>
>>  excuse moir, but could you please clarify this statement ? i clearly
>>remember that in the m'sian federal constitution, the king or dymh yang
>>dipertuan agong, is 'exempted' from all legal ac>>does not incite the involvement of any human rights movements. 
>>
>
>When the present Sultan of Johor was convicted he was only a prince. Anyway,
>he was granted a royal pardon by his father!
>
>>	High school in Malaysia are hiring foreign coach for their sports ?
>
>No, Gomez is not a foreigner, he was born in Malaysia. 
>
>>Dr.Mahathir.. has end the immunity of the Malay ruler... some people might
>>think this is not a good idea...since the Sultan is some kind of symbol
>>to Malays... but they , the Malay ruler, itself has forced the Malays to
>>end it.... 
>
>Not yet. It is in the works. The latest meeting by all the mentris besar had
>it that they all agreed to the change to the constitution in removing the
>immunity of the sultans from prosecution. Hope that it will be backdated!
>
>
>>	Just heard from a couple of friends.  Warrant is out.  Papers back home
>>say that the police are going to the palace soon.  Rumour has it Brunei is a
>>nice vacation spot...
>>	Seems that if convicted, the Tengku cannot be pardoned by the Sultan
>>alone, but need the consent of at least two other sultans.
>>	Ciao.
>
>He had surrended to the police and the case was mentioned in court and it was
>to be tried as a criminal case.
From: songhua@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu ([hello])
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Corolla GTS forsale!!!
Date: 30 Dec 92 16:46:52 GMT
Reply-To: songhua@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu ([hello])
Distribution: tx
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: songhua@happy.cc.utexas.edu


	1986 Toyota Corolla-GTS FORSALE

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	--------------------------------

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	2.  Color is Red (hot red)
	3.  It has 90k, long distance miles
	4.  Good gas mileage for this high performance car,24 mi/gal in city
	5.  AM/FM stereo, no cassette player
	6.  Good air conditioner and heater
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	Please contact Wah at 471-1626 or 
	            e-mail to cchan@timar.me.utexas.edu	


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From: ccgary@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (Gary Young)
Subject: Names & addresses of airline companies & flying schools
Summary: I would like further information of names & addresses of airline compan
Keywords: Names & addresses of airline companies & flying schools
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 04:19:10 GMT

I'am very interested in obtaining the names & addresses of airline companies
& flying schools in your country.
I would like to correspond to them to offer the opportunity to trainees and 
students, interested in learning to fly professionally and at the same time
obtaining a higher degree in aviation science at the Air Training Centre,
Brisbane, Queensland.
For further information contact Gary Young

Thanking you

Gary Young                                           Education Officer
Prentice Centre                                      Tel:+61 7 365 4359
The University of Queensland                         Fax:+61 7 365 4477
Queensland, 4072                               Email: ccgary@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au
Australia
_______________________________________________________________________________
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From: khor@bnr.ca (Kyle Hor)
Subject: Re: A couple of factual information
Reply-To: khor@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:07:34 GMT

In article <NG39K5F@math.fu-berlin.de>, belaton@scs.leeds.ac.uk (B Belaton) writes:
|> 
|> What follows are a statements of my own opinion, and I guess it is a
|> constructive discussions.
|> 
|> I think the change of name from Bahasa Malaysia to Bahasa Melayu is the
|> appropriate ones. The facts that Bahasa Malaysia is Bahasa Melayu, and there is
|> no specific criterion which distiguishes those two bahasa .... which only
|> different in their names, will support my argument. In the early days 
....bandwidth reduction...
|> 
|> So what do you think folks?.
|> 
|> No flames invited.  Constructive discussions welcome.
|> 
A name is a name...is a name...is a name....

But I find it interesting to note that BM used to mean to Bahasa Melayu
and was changed to Bahasa Malaysia in 60's (or 70's ?), and now we are
back to Bahasa Melayu.

...Kyle
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From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: Re: IN: Xanana interview - a forwarded msg
Organization: -=[ Curtin University of Technology ]=-  Perth  Australia
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 19:59:57 GMT

> Of course I will say that the journalist is a "human rights nut."  Why?
> Because I belive that human rights abuse happens everywhere in the world

This makes no logical sense.

You may say he's a "human rights nut", but he isn't.  Human rights abuses
do occur in a large number of nations around the world.  It's just when you
get a military junta,.....

I mean, are you ashamed to have the blood of East Timorese on your hands,
considering they never wanted to be part of Indonesia.  Indonesia occupied
East Timor after a military takeover of the island.

Indonesia has had no right to East Timor since it forcefully occupied the
territory.

Maybe the Dutch should set up camp in Jakarta and take back Indonesia!

Rod
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From: an1600@anon.penet.fi (homeless)
Subject: chinese in malaysia
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.asean
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:16:55 GMT

Dear all users of soc.culture.asean,

At first I introduce my self that I am not a malaysians
nor a chinese origin. But i want to know about the chinese
people who are leaving in Malaysia.

The topics are :
	- How many %(percent) of the inhabitant
are chinese origin ?
	- What is the position of chinese people in
Malaysia. Do they have a possibility for a high rank
position at the goverment or army, and if they have the 
same right to access any public services ?.
	- Are the most richest people in malaysia mostly chinese
ethnic ?.
	- Do the chinese people in Malaysia have a felling
as a malaisians ?.
	- How about the social contact between chinese people
and others ?.
	- What has the most chinese people religion (muslem, 
christiant or others ? Are there any problem between the fellowers
in Malaysia ?.

Please send me an information and I am really sorry if I write
something inproperly. Your information is very important for me.
We all can also discuss this subject on this net.

Thank You for the suggestions,

syncerely yours,
anno
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Subject: A couple of factual information
From: C.T.Teo@massey.ac.nz (C.T. Teo)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 20:08:10 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
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From: ck345@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Wira Putra)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Import/Export Research
Date: 28 Dec 1992 18:58:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Reply-To: ck345@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Wira Putra)
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In a previous article, z_ablesrl@ccsvax.sfasu.edu () says:

>Hello all,
>
>	--------- deleted ---------
> 
>1.) How would we gather information concerning the legal regulations on
>	shipping to your country? 

	my country is Indonesia ...
	you can ask Surveyor Indonesia [ S.I.], Inc. in New York,
	Indonesian Embassy in Washington, D.C., Indoensian Consulate
	Generale in New York, Chicago, Houston, San Francisco, L.A.

>2.) Who would an individual contact in your country about shipping
>	requirements?  

	I would say import/export companies ...
	[ find out by yourself or you can ask or put an article
	  in Indonesian magazines ... ]

>3.) What kind of licences or paper work does a company need to enter
>	a foreign market place?

	vary from product to product ...
	but if you read books about guide to export/import by
	Department of Commerce, it almost everything there

>I really would appreciate any help concerning this matter.  Thank you very
>much for your time and hope to hear from you soon.

	good luck ...

>Sincerly,
>Ronald L. Ables
>z_ablesrl@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
>	or
>sfa1@jetson.uh.edu

	\/\/ira Putra ... ck345@cleveland.freenet.edu
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