From: johnsd2@jec322.its.rpi.edu (Daniel Norman Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Trepidations of a stoned Mac user
Date: 30 Oct 92 03:52:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: rpi.jna15bh
Reply-To: johnsd2@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.

In article <92303.092620ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET>, ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET writes:
|> In article <6+=1mmc@rpi.edu>, johnsd2@jec314.its.rpi.edu (Daniel Norman Johnson)
|> says:
|> >
|> >|> >In article <1992Oct28.024500.16530@umr.edu>, johns@mcs213f.cs.umr.edu
|> >(John
[deletia- NT bashing]
|> >|>
|> >|> Just as the 8086 lacks >1mb memory addressing, protected mode (dual mode)
|> >|> operation (necessary for a real multitasking system), and various other
|> >|> niceties.
|> >
|> >So OS/2 wont run on those. But system 7 WILL run on Pluses- allegedly,
|> >so will the microkernal system (but wo/ protection)
|> 
|> Where is the point ? Does 7.x run on an Apple ][ ?

why yes, didn't you know? :)

|> If a machine is too small for a given task, don't use it.

A plus is not (quite) too small of System 7. Or rather, system 7
is not too big for a plus (quite). This is a feature. It means
plus owners can use System.

|> OS/2 is made for machines with an Intel 80286 or higher and not for older
|> Intel processors. System 7.x is made for Motorola 68000 or higher processors
|> and can't be used with older Motorola processors like the 6502.

That's true. However, nobody is claiming the 68000 machines and
the 6502 machines to be compatible.

|> Can you tell me which machine was available sooner, the Mac Plus or the
|> IBM AT ?

Yss, I can. The IBM AT. By a fair margin.

|> OS/2 2.0 is made for Intel 80386 or higher, if you have a 80286 you can run
|> OS/2 1.3 which is also a protected mode multitasking OS with an advanced file
|> system and many of the advantages 2.0 has over older PC OSes.

That's true, certainly. But it is no advantage.

|> [some stuff about WPS deleted]
|> >views (so you can have sorting, and size info, and other things); I think
|> >the OS/2 desktop is too crowded and makes volumes to hard to access. I thdnk
|> >the shredder needs work (as I understand it, there's no "empty shredder"
|> >option
|> 
|> If you mean drives are to hard to access it's only a matter of where you put
|> them on your desktop. And that's exactly like the Mac (except for the two
|> mouse buttons).

Well, no the Mac is very picky about where the drives go. (They always
mount in teh upper right. :( )

But this foozling should not be necessary.

|> The shreddder definitely needs some work. It would be very easy to implement
|> it like the trash can. I wonder why they didn't do it. Perhaps they thought
|> they would get sued by Apple :-)

:) Actually, I think they signed some agreements letting them do
a very mac like UI. Perhaps Apple is just very attached to the
trash. :) Perhaps they wanted to sell to the white house. :)

|> >deleted as soon as they are in the shredder. Is this right?) WPS could
|> >also use comments, and version info.
|> 
|> WPS _has_ comments. Look in the settings notebook on the file page. There is
|> also enough space for a version note. Of cause the author of the program
|> has to put it there. But I can't imagine this is very different from the Mac.
|> What it would need is a key shortcut to display that page of the notebook
|> directly.

I didn't know it had comments. Version numbers are different; you can list,
search and sort by version number in the MacOs because it is separate
and it cant be changed except with ResEdit.

|> >nonetheless, I see a lotta c00l stuff in the WPS; and I do want some of it.
|> 
|> Nonetheless there is a lotta c00l stuff in the finder; and I want some of it
|> in WPS.

perhaps we should get togher? :)

[thuder. Lighting. Sceen Shift To Dark+Dank+Dusty Laboratory]

Come Igor. And bring the CPU. Don't forget to turn off the life-o-meter.
Adn that funny electric-arcs thing. Don't worry, we'll figure out
what its for one of these days.

But I digress. Big time.

-- 
			- Dan Johnson
And God said "Jeeze, this is dull"... and it *WAS* dull. Genesis 0:0

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