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From: choy@skorpio.usask.ca (I am a terminator.)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.correct
Subject: Re: damning statistics
Date: 6 Oct 92 01:59:00 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada

In article <92273.60638.J056600@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM>, J056600@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:
|> In <EekuXCq00WBMM7xeVS@andrew.cmu.edu>:
|> 
|> >>I am looking for a series of statistics
|> >>that are most damning of the Bush administration.
|> 
|> Obviously, you wouldn't care for dirt on Clinton even if it made him look like
|> Hitler's son.  By focusing on ONE candidate's negatives, you are obviously not
|> into critical thinking and reasoning.
|> 
|> Obviously, you're looking for something you don't know.  You're grasping at
|> straws.  You don't have a clue other than getting a Democrat in the White
|> House.
|> 
|> For if you despise Bush so much, you'd already *have* plenty of substantive
|> reasons to bash him.  By asking for help, you're essentially saying "I despise
|> George Bush!  Would someone please give me justification for it?"
|> 
|> There are lots of reasons why the Bush Administration has been a miserable
|> failure.  But if you already hate Bush and want to discredit them, you must
|> know what they are already.
|> 
|> 
|> Tim Irvin   j056600@lmsc5.is.lmsc.lockheed.com
|> ****************************************************************************
|> 

Well, I for one sure don't know. And never mind the dirt on Clinton.
We're frying Bush tonight.

HC
Newsgroups: alt.politics.correct,talk.politics.mideast
From: davidba@carmel.technion.ac.il (David Ben_Ami)
Subject: Re: Anti-Arab racism on the net
Organization: Technion, Israel Inst. of Technology
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:33:06 GMT

In article <1992Sep23.202011.22766@Princeton.EDU> egnilges@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ed Nilges) writes:
>In article <1992Sep23.192841.11500@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> nabil@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Nabil Idriss) writes:
>>>
>>>No, but I expected this kind of a paranoid, ignorant response coming
>>>from you, Elghani.  Jews - both Ashkenazi and Sephardic - have four
>>>thousand years' connection with the land that once again makes up
>>>Israel, our homeland.  The Jews who have returned to Israel are not
>>
>>Well, the Palestinians have 2000 years connection with the land. They
>>were born in Palestine too.
>>
>Quite.  And given that an authoritative rabbinical conference convened
>shortly after the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD (described by Paul
>Johnson's History of the Jews) in effect disclaimed Jewish ownership of
>the land that had been Israel and authorized the Diaspora, it can be

You seem to misunderstand the Jewish position on the Diasphora. The
Diasphora was authorized because the Jews cannot regain their country
at the time: However in almost any single prayer in the Jewish books
Jerusalem/Zion and the return to it is mentioned and the yearning to
Zion is one of the most universal traits of Judaism (even the Ethiopian
Jews dreamt about coming back to Jerusalem although they were sundered
from other Jews completely).

>argued that the Jewish title is unclear.  The absurdity of being bound
>by such an ancient precedent (especially in view of Hitler's crimes
>making a Jewish homeland so necessary) is matched by the absurdity of
>being bound by precedents set in Old Testament times.

Well, in other country did the Jews form any sort of political/economical
center with even slight samples of soverignty as they did in Palestine.

In Modern times every single effort to found Jewish States and/or
autonomies failed miserably [ There were ~70 such plans the most famous
are: Birobijan/Uganda/Argentine/Ararat Island in the US etc.].

Indeed the atrocities of Hitler and his ilk proved that a Jewish State
is a must and enthusiasm of Jews all over the world to this enterprise
shows that Palestine was the most suitable place.

Had the Arabs welcomed the Jews not in the murderous way they did,
there was no reason in the world that the Arabs would suffer from this.
On the contrary - the resettling of the country by Jews could only spawn
innumerable benefits to the local Arab residents (which were few
relatively) and the whole ME.

David.
  Shana Tova from Israel (Happy Jewish New Year)
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Newsgroups: alt.politics.correct,soc.college
Subject: Re: Universities as a business 
From: mzener@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:02:28 EDT
 <1992Sep28.180350.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> <1992Sep30.144912.3103@midway.uchicago.edu>
Organization: Wesleyan University

hasn@midway.uchicago.edu (Sheheryar Hasnain) writes:

> ...do we go to school for what employers desire of us or what we desire of   
> ourselves?  

   This question has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not breaking up
price-fixing by Universities will make them worse schools, but I'll answer it
anyway.

   We go to schools for whatever reason we want.  Some people go to schools in
order to prepare for specific trades, and schools exist to serve them.  Others
go to satisfy academic passions, and schools exist for them.  Some go to play
sports, some go to study an art, and schools exist that cater to all these     
people.
   I wouls argue that all these schools are preparing its students for what
future employers want simply because there are numerous employers and numerous
ways of counting someone's value.  A concert violinist went to a music school
because he loved music;  it also gave him skills that increase his hirability
in the field of music.  A history major isn't simply being trained to become a
museum curator -- he is increasing his skill at writing and analytical thinking
(one would hope), both of which make him more attractive to employers.

Max Zener
Newsgroups: alt.politics.correct
From: J056600@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: damning statistics
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 23:55:21 GMT

In <EekuXCq00WBMM7xeVS@andrew.cmu.edu>:

>>I am looking for a series of statistics
>>that are most damning of the Bush administration.

Obviously, you wouldn't care for dirt on Clinton even if it made him look like
Hitler's son.  By focusing on ONE candidate's negatives, you are obviously not
into critical thinking and reasoning.

Obviously, you're looking for something you don't know.  You're grasping at
straws.  You don't have a clue other than getting a Democrat in the White
House.

For if you despise Bush so much, you'd already *have* plenty of substantive
reasons to bash him.  By asking for help, you're essentially saying "I despise
George Bush!  Would someone please give me justification for it?"

There are lots of reasons why the Bush Administration has been a miserable
failure.  But if you already hate Bush and want to discredit them, you must
know what they are already.


Tim Irvin   j056600@lmsc5.is.lmsc.lockheed.com
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Newsgroups: alt.politics.correct
Subject: Campaign '92 Documents Available--FREE
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:17:03 GMT
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Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality
From: mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas)
Subject: Re: Gay Intolerance OR Politcal Correctness in the Age of AIDS
Organization: Gordian; Costa Mesa, CA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 01:49:06 GMT

Now who wrote this? What an idiot.

In article <1992Oct1.223739.15826@gordian.com>, mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas) writes:
>   I think that your employer has every reason to expect you to wear
> the ribbon. This *was* an AIDS fund raiser for goodness sake. Replace
> your unhappiness with the ribbon with complaining that you don't 
> like the uniforms they make you wear and see how well that would
> go over. Your choice in both scenarios is to quit, but don't expect
> to much sympathy...

  The more that I think about this, the more that I think that the
original poster was actually correct. I guess that an analogous
situation would be if you were required to wear a crucifix when
you were in fact an atheist (or jew or whatever) at a Pat Robertson
homo-bashing revival. From this standpoint I think that the employer
was going a little bit to far.
  I don't, however, think that it would be impolite for the employer
to *ask* you to wear the ribbon (considering the situation), but
requiring it seems, well, rude. 
  I guess my real question to the first poster is *why* were you
unhappy about wearing the red ribbon?
-- 

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Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality,soc.motss,soc.bi
From: jclark@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (John Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality,soc.motss,soc.bi
Subject: Re: If you haven't sent your checks to no-on-hate yet, do it!
Date: 2 Oct 92 02:51:45 GMT
Followup-To: alt.politics.homosexuality
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Sep23.135148.24918@midway.uchicago.edu> h431@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <Uejvxoy00UhWA9fLRh@andrew.cmu.edu> ew2r+@andrew.cmu.edu (Erik Karl Witte) writes:
+>significantly takes away from my power to run my company.  If the
+>government takes over responsibility for hiring my employees, will they
+>pay for my losses if I go broke?  The answer is obviously NO. 

You will go broke by not hiring the talent required for your
business activity, not making the 'right' business discisions, and
squandering talent and money on pointless activities. None of these
need be tied to the sexual activities of your employees, unless your
hiring men to screw women, as in X-films or other sexual
entertainment, then you might have a case for prefering a particular
sexual interrest in your employee.

+
+This is why I don't like libertarians.  They want to scrap all non-
+discrimination laws and then make the bogus claim that the "free market"
+will turn out to be non-discriminatory.  Hah.  It's been almost 130

This is the gross failure of libertariansim, that there is no
requirement for social consciousness other than to keep one from
'molesting' the other as in a government protection racket. An so if
the government is going to protect a particular type of behavior, in
the face of no overriding general harm, as in the case of adult
sexual behavior, the government should extend protection to all
equally. Hence the employer cannot fire/not-hire a heterosexual
for being such nor fire/not-hire a homosexual for being such.

(The X-film industry is in fact a bad example since there is/was a
flow from hetero to homo and back and forth).


I do sometimes vacilate on the 'libertarian' boarder. Yes, I'd like
less governmental meddling in my private affairs. But I realize that
there needs to be some social big stick to make sure that equality
does not become a free market commodity were those that can pay have
it and those that cant don't have it.
-- 

John Clark
jclark@ucsd.edu
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From: rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality,soc.motss,soc.bi
Subject: Re: If you haven't sent your checks to no-on-hate yet, do it!
Date: 27 Sep 92 16:38:15 GMT
Organization: insert anything here

mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas) writes:

	-but never addresses any issues
	-insults when he can't address the issue
	-calls me a liar when he can't address the issue

	Michael - you're not worth it.

	Give it up.
Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality
From: tima@sequent.com (Timothy Alan Anderson)
Subject: Re: News from Oregon: Re: Worse than I thought :( OCA sucks
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 15:37:01 GMT

In article <BvHrAK.Gtx@world.std.com> entropy@world.std.com (The Entropic one) writes:
>In article <1992Oct2.094956.24328@lclark.edu> snodgras@lclark.edu (Bil Snodgrass) writes:
>> [snip]
>>
>>Oh, the FBI is looking into the case.
> [snip]
>
>I remember hearing something about the FBI stopping a neo-nazi group
>from blowing up a gay bar, I think it may have been in Portland.

No, it was "Neighbors" in Seattle. There aren't any gay bars decent enough
to blow up in Portland. ;-) Actually, for a relatively small burb, we have
a gigantic gay population. We even had a queer street fair this last 
weekend! It was a 'no on 9' fundraiser. I had fun! except for the fact that
they where only serving Miller Lite and playing country music...

tima@sequent.com

Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality,soc.motss,soc.bi
From: QAA@psuvm.psu.edu (Tim Bieling)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: The Insane Rep. Dornan...
Date: 3 Oct 92 04:25:00 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

I'm surprised that there hasn't been much comment about the Rep. Dornan
(or is it Dorman?:) lately.  It's 12:30 EST and that asshole is still
blowing hot air about Clinton.  (C-SPAN is still running live on the
house)

I have to admit, if this Phool (TM) is an example of the Rep. party,
I'm damned glad to a democrat..:)  I really pity the chair and the
recorder who are stuck there listening to this dweeb spout his vile
filth...

-Tim
From: bryant@math.duke.edu (Robert Bryant)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality
Subject: Re: Biblical Bullsh*t
Date: 26 Sep 92 20:49:10 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <BuI7t5.A80@news.cso.uiuc.edu> StarWatcher@uiuc.edu (StarWatcher)  
writes:
> keb3_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Karin E. Baker) writes:
> : jon@Turing.ORG (Jon Gefaell (KD4CQY)) writes:
> : >awerling@nmsu.edu (WERLING) writes:
> : >>@athena.mit.edu (Jude G Federspiel) writes:
> 
> : >>- "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them has  
done
> : >>- what is detestable"
> : >>-	   --Leviticus 18:22
> : >>
> : >>You left out the death penalty part.
> : 
> : Which death penalty part?
> 
> Actually, there is no literal death penalty attatched to this verse,
> at least in my version (New English).

<< Further stuff deleted >>

Actually, the death penalty is to be found in the parallel passage two chapters  
later:

	If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth
	with a woman, both of them have committed an
	abomination:  they shall surely be put to death;
	their blood _shall be_ upon them.
		-- Leviticus 20:13  (KJV)

This verse is one of a group of about eight verses prescribing the death  
penalty for various sexual transgressions.

bryant@math.duke.edu
Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality,alt.discrimination,soc.motss
From: entropy@world.std.com (The Entropic one)
Subject: Re: News from Oregon: Re: Worse than I thought :( OCA sucks
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 10:56:14 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.063838.19700@netcom.com> rich@netcom.com (Richard Poppen) writes:
>In article <BvGCtF.I4E@agora.rain.com> rickc@agora.rain.com (Rick
>Coates) writes:
>>
>>A basement apartment was fire-bombed; two people were killed, one black
>>and one gay.  [...]
>
>Why "one black and one gay"?  If race and sexual orientation matter, I
>can understand "one black and one white", or "one straight and one gay",
>or "one black and straight and one gay and white".  But the phrasing
>above makes it sound like "both differing from the standard, one by
>being black and the other by being gay".

I was to pissed to type correctly, one lesbian and one gay man one
of who was black.



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Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality,soc.motss,soc.bi
From: entropy@world.std.com (The Entropic one)
Subject: Bad day for Sheldon,etc. :-)
Followup-To: alt.politics.homosexuality
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 03:19:49 GMT


I just read Clarinet and apparently governor Wilson in CA just signed
one of the gay rights bills. 

On top of that Magic Johnson just resigned from the AIDS commission in
protest.

P.S. I wonder if there is any relationship between KY's initials and the
     recent supreme court decision :-)


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From: farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Droopy)
Subject: Wilson signed anti-discrim law?!
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 19:42:23 GMT

I heard on CNN that California Gov Pete Wilson signed the law that
would prohibit job discrimination (and housing too, I think) based
on sexual orientation. This is the same (or similiar) bill he vetoed
last year. 

Can anyone confirm this good news?
---
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Clarkson '95				 dirty hands than dirty hearts and
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CLINTON/GORE AND BOB ABRAMS (US SENATE) IN '92
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From: ae642@yfn.ysu.edu (Kelley Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality
Subject: Re: How many Christian Gods are there?
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:34:18 GMT
Reply-To: ae642@yfn.ysu.edu (Kelley Miller)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH


In a previous article, david_s@hsr.no (David Andreas Sjoeen) says, in an
outpouring of Christian charity:

>
>I can tolerate you, but not the things you do, that's the difference.

My, how absolutely Xian of you...

And how typical....

>
>:)avid
>
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Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality
Subject: (none)
Date: 26 Sep 92 22:38:07 GMT

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Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality
From: buckmr@lib110.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: The Queer News In Brief for the week ending Sept 26
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 22:38:11 GMT

I just read the 9/26 New York Times. They had a front page story on
the AB2601 thing. They also kindly summarise the week in gay rights events

1) Massachusetts Governor signs Exec Order to provide DP benefits for state
workers in managerial positions
2) Kentucky Sodomy Law repealed
3) California Gay Rights Bill (employment only)  signed
4) DC domestic partnership bill killed.


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