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Subject: Burma Attacks Thai Aircraft
From: charoe@issm1.memst.edu (Charlie Charoenwong)
Date: 10 Apr 92 10:13:33 -0600
Organization: Institute for the Study of Security Markets, Memphis State Univ

Repost from SEASIA... I hope the news won't distract the current Thai
political too much.  Just want to inform our neighbor situation.

Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:12:21 PDT
From: "Indonesia Publications/Task Force" <apakabar@IGC.ORG>
Subject:      Burma Attacks Thai Aircraft

   AP, Mae Sot, April 8 - Burmese forces fired Wednesday on two Thai
air force planes on a reconnaissance mission in northern Thailand near
the Burma border, Thai military sources said.
   No damage was reported to the two Thai F-5Es, which were conducting
an air mission one day after several hundred Burmese troops allegedly
crossed into Thai territory in Tak province, 230 miles northwest of
Bangkok.
   It was unclear Wednesday whether the Burmese troops, who were
pressing an offensive against ethnic Karen rebels, had withdrawn from
Thai territory.
   Two major Karen bases -- at Kawmoora, opposite Thailand's Tak
province, and at Manerplaw opposite Mae Hong Son province -- have been
under siege since February but their locations abutting Thai territory
make them difficult to seize without trespassing on Thai soil.
   Thai officials who sought information on the incidents were turned
back at the border Wednesday when they tried to meet their Burmese
counterparts in the frontier town of Mqawaddy, the military sources
said.
   In the past week, Burma has closed the frontier at a number of points
opposite Thailand's Tak and Mae Hong Son provinces.

Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:28:59 PDT
From: "Indonesia Publications/Task Force" <apakabar@IGC.ORG>
Subject:      Muslims Mass at Thai Border!

Remark: Scanned from FBIS.

20,000 Muslims Gather on Thai Border

BKO704020792 Bangkok - BANGKOK POST in English 7 Apr 92 p 1

[Text] About 20,000 Burmese Muslims fleeing persecution by Burmese forces
have massed on the Thai-Burmese border, apparently in a desperate bid to win
outside help.

Col Tin Muang That, chairman of the All Burma Muslim Union, a rebel
organisation under the Democratic Alliance of Burma, said yesterday the
plight of Muslims in eastern Burma is as serious as that confronting the
Rohingyas in Arakan State to the west.

Tens of thousands of Muslim Rohingyas have sought sanctuary in Bangladesh
where their plight has gained worldwide attention.

The exodus to Bangladesh has also provoked expressions of concern in some
ASEAN capitals.

Col Tin said the Burmese Muslims, assembled in separate groups in
Karen-controlled areas on the Burma-Thai border, had been deprived of basic
rights and their houses were raided and set ablaze by Burmese soldiers.

He said he was deeply disappointed with the poor response from Muslim
countries, especially Saudi Arabia, towards the suffering of the Muslim
refugees.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: kumar@ditsydh.syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar)
Subject: Happy Thai New Year
Organization: CSIRO Division of Info Tech, Sydney, Australia
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 23:49:58 GMT


To all Thai friends,


Happy New Year

Sawasdee Pee Mai Kraap

Songhkran Day => April 13 (Am I right ?)

Cheers,

V.R.Kumar

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From: fstawit@icomp01.lerc.nasa.gov (Tawit Chitsomboon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: The U.S. and Thai Premiership: A Remote Greenlight?
Keywords: Thai
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:02:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: eagle.1992Apr7.140211.22469
Organization: Institute for Computational Mechanics in Propulsion

In article <ku2pipINNgkn@caldera.usc.edu> 
nagamati@caldera.usc.edu (Romklau Nagamati) writes:

>...........................
>Regarding your interpretation that the statement implying approvement might
>be true or might not. I have no idea whether the General has ever been
>denied entry VISA. Probably not... .................................

I just found one more credential to add to my resume: "never been
denied a US Visa". Watch out world!, I might be the only Thai
left to be nominated as the next PM.

Kumsing Srinorg (penname: LaoKumHorm) was also denied a US Visa
back in 1976 when he asked for a political asylum because the
junta wanted to exterminate him. The reason was that he was
a 'communist sympathizer' when in fact all he did was to write
a couple of short stories detailing the poverty of the Isaan people.
Obviously, he cannot be nominated to be a PM either.

IMO, BUG Su should be denied a US Visa if he applied again.
The reason: Crime against humanity.

>Regarding Narong being accused... let the evidences be shown... If it's true,
>then the U.S. can probably prosecute him like Noriega...

Wait a minute, Khun Ron, Thailand is a fully sovereign country. We have
our own judicial system. Please don't invite rape like this :)
Well, on a second thought, it might be a good idea to have him
indicted and tried here in the USA considering that judicial
system in Thailand is as easily influenced by cash as any other
governmental branch.
From: broderic@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (scott [RSN-XPRT])
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: test
Date: 16 Apr 92 12:39:44 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

just a test (sorry)!
From: nagamati@caldera.usc.edu (Romklau Nagamati)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: The U.S. and Thai Premiership: A Remote Greenlight?
Date: 7 Apr 1992 11:38:54 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: caldera.usc.edu
Keywords: Thai

In article <1992Apr7.140211.22469@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> fstawit@icomp01.lerc.nasa.gov (Tawit Chitsomboon) writes:
>
>I just found one more credential to add to my resume: "never been
>denied a US Visa". Watch out world!, I might be the only Thai
>left to be nominated as the next PM.
>

Can I be your secretary of communication if you eventually be a P.M.?

>
>>Regarding Narong being accused... let the evidences be shown... If it's true,
>>then the U.S. can probably prosecute him like Noriega...
>
>Wait a minute, Khun Ron, Thailand is a fully sovereign country. We have
>our own judicial system. Please don't invite rape like this :)
>Well, on a second thought, it might be a good idea to have him
>indicted and tried here in the USA considering that judicial
>system in Thailand is as easily influenced by cash as any other
>governmental branch.

That's exactly my point. It's easy for some Senator and Congressmen(women?)
to start accusing someone to diverge public attention from domestic
issues. Let the evidence be shown if there's such a thing.... This is not
the first time I heard about drug traffiking by the high level people, but
the evidence is never revealed for some reason...

Regardless of what's happening in our judical system, I still believe that
there're still some good judges waiting for the day to emerge... In my
opinion, Noriega's case should be dismissed on the ground that the U.S.
has no juridiction over there, regardless of what the U.S. law said....
The virtue of international law applies in this case. It would be a few
more days before we known the outcome of Noriega's case. The jurors is
never told about the international agreement(s) on such a case.... It's
just not legal to send in troops in to someone else backyard and "Kidnap"
the homeowner....

Ron Nagamati
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From: 9202033j@lux.latrobe.edu.au (Chiu-wen Tseng )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: re: US 'Backs' Suchinda and Tear from a Crocodile
Date: 15 Apr 92 07:28:25 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University


>From: MARTIN%FRSIM51.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
>Date: 15 Apr 92 01:24:48 GMT

>>Khun Perrasak writes:

>>Listen.  This sounds like a BullShit to me :(

>Agreed. I'm very sad to see the Thai government is now conscientiously
>obeying
>the orders coming from Washington. What a pity to watch people being so
>proud
>of never having been colonized by western countries (and I can
>understand that)
>accepting that Washington knows which Prime Minister is good and which
> one is
>no good for them.
>
>I was sort of hoping that the reaction would be : "mind your own drugs
>traffickers, your own rotten politicians, you have quite a lot of them.
>Mind
>your own social problems, your own poverty, the situation of poor people
>in the
>U.S. is not much better than in Thailand. Stop giving the whole Earth
>lessons
>of morality.  Mind your own business, we're not Panama, we're not
>Kuwait."
>I like Thailand so much. Too bad :-( :-(
>                                                        -- Eric

I strongly agree with you, Eric. I love Thailand so much too.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: chokchai@MCS.KENT.EDU (Chokchai Leangsuksun)
Subject: Thai Concert at Kent State U
Originator: chokchai@Condor.mcs.kent.edu
Organization: Kent Gateway
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 14:23:41 GMT

	There will be a Thai concert at Kent State University on April 16,1992.
It is free admission. 

Chokchai 
chokchai@mcs.kent.edu

******************************************************************************

			Music of Thailand
		Kent State University Thai Ensemble
	Arjan Panya Roongruang and Dr. Terry Miller , Directors.

Place: 	Carl F. Ludwig Hall, dept of Music and Speech, Kent State University.
Time: 	8:00 p.m. Thursday, April 16, 1992.

Program:
	1. Overture Paeh Sam Chan		Mahori Orchestra
	2. Kluen Kratob Fung & 			Krung Sai Prasom
	   Bang Bai				(violin and Khim)
	3. Rum Auy Porn				Waraporn Roongruang
	4. Khab Mai Bandoh			Mahori Kruang Hok
	5. Khaek Toi Mor (Thao)			Pipat Mai Nuam
		--------- Intermission ---------
	6. Praya Kruan				Saw Sam Sai Solo
						Arjan Panya Roongruang
	7. Java & Java Rew			Angkaloong Ensemble
	8. Srivijaya Dance			Waraporn Roongruang &
						Paweena Sirimungkala
	9. Lai Soi				Kan Solo: Dr. Terry Miller
	10.Serng Kratib Khao			Narisa Chauvidul
						Emiko Natsume
						Virarath Vimala
						Chularath Vimala 
-- 
Regards,

*******************************************************************************
Chokchai Leangsuksun	  		        |                  /       |
From: ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)
Subject: Burma Attacks Thai Aircraft (fwd from SEASIA-L)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 20:29:02 GMT

>From: apakabar@IGC.ORG (Indonesia Publications/Task Force)
>Newsgroups: bit.listserv.seasia-l
>Subject: Burma Attacks Thai Aircraft
>Date: 9 Apr 92 21:12:21 GMT
>Sender: Southeast Asia Discussion List <SEASIA-L@MSU.BITNET>
>Lines: 21


   AP, Mae Sot, April 8 - Burmese forces fired Wednesday on two Thai
air force planes on a reconnaissance mission in northern Thailand near
the Burma border, Thai military sources said.
   No damage was reported to the two Thai F-5Es, which were conducting
an air mission one day after several hundred Burmese troops allegedly
crossed into Thai territory in Tak province, 230 miles northwest of
Bangkok.
   It was unclear Wednesday whether the Burmese troops, who were
pressing an offensive against ethnic Karen rebels, had withdrawn from
Thai territory.
   Two major Karen bases -- at Kawmoora, opposite Thailand's Tak
province, and at Manerplaw opposite Mae Hong Son province -- have been
under siege since February but their locations abutting Thai territory
make them difficult to seize without trespassing on Thai soil.
   Thai officials who sought information on the incidents were turned
back at the border Wednesday when they tried to meet their Burmese
counterparts in the frontier town of Mqawaddy, the military sources
said.
   In the past week, Burma has closed the frontier at a number of points
opposite Thailand's Tak and Mae Hong Son provinces.
From: lur@cacs.usl.edu (Dr. Chid Lursinsap)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Ban Cheing
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:16:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: usl.1992Apr8.191644.15782
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern Louisiana


To anyone in archeology
   A friend of mine in archeology is researching about Thai people
and the 7000 years old culture in Udontani at Ban Cheing.  Can
anyone elaborate and provide some information about Ban Cheing
i.e. books, journals, etc.
   thanks.
From: rchanyavanic@mac.cc.macalstr.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Songkran day (Thai New Year)
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:06:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: mac.1992Apr15.100607.2471
Organization: Macalester College

In regards to Scott's question of what Songkran (Scott spelled it Sunegan), or
Thai New Year's day, is like, I would like to share some of my experiences that
I have had back home in Bangkok, Thailand:

Songkran was a wet day.  It is my understanding that there is a tradition
in which one is blessed by having jasmine scented water poured over the hands
which are formed in the traditional wai (Thai greeting).  The blessing is for
the person to have a prosperous and good year, I believe.  I think that this
blessing can be given to anyone of any age.  My Thai tutor, I recall, told me
that some people would even give their parents a bath!  That's total water
immersion and blessing! :)

Anyway, Bangkokians and many people in other provinces all over Thailand seem
to have taken this water blessing a step further.  People would drench one
another with buckets of water.  If there was anyway to get water on someone, it
was done.  Songkran is one of those days where everyone expects to get wet, and
is ready for it.  It is a truly fun and happy day.  My sister and I would drag
the hose out to the front of the house, open the gates, and wait for
passers-by.  When they came by and saw these two little rascals with hoses
a-ready, they would try to walk by really fast, or ride by really quickly. 
They didn't make it.  We always got them!  Ha!  It was so enjoyable.  In my
neighborhood we didn't socialize with the neighbors too much, but this day was
a little different.  Everyone was outside for the point of being outside to get
at each other.

That is my experience with Songkran day.  It is not too informative
traditions-wise, but I hope it helps readers get an idea of what goes on during
this holiday, at least around my house! :)

Happy Thai New Year's Day (belated!)...Suk San Wan Songkran

Laew Kooy Kan Mai,

Rangsarn Chanyavanich
RCHANYAVANIC@MACALSTR.EDU
From: broderic@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (scott [RSN-XPRT])
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Wan Sunegan!!!
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:31:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.45352
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Originator: broderic@fe536.cc.purdue.edu


    Just curious,  anybody know what Wan Sunegan is like in Thailand?  
Not too many people celebrate it (or even know about it) here.  What
kind of festivities go on?  
    Thanx in advance!  

phop khan mai, 
              Scott.  
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: suntich@frith.msu.edu (Montree Suntichaikul)
Subject: Thailand new PM
Originator: suntich@frith.egr.msu.edu
Organization: Michigan State University, College of Engineering
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 18:37:08 GMT


Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: gupta@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (PJ Gupta)
Subject: Info on hotel accomodation in BKK
Organization: Matsushita Electric Works Ltd., Tokyo, Japan.
Distribution: soc
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 05:00:54 GMT


Greetings,

I would be visiting Bangkok the first week of May this year for a few days.
Would anybody be so kind to send me a list of resonably priced hotels where I
could stay for 2-3 days.
Please send me email as I don't want to clutter up this newsgroup with
things not directly related to soc.culture.thai.

..PJ

PS: If this is not the best newsgroup to solicit such info please let me
which one is. Thks.
From: jae@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jaehoon Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Japan's Sex Tourist (Forwarded from soc.culture.japan)
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:35:09 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

Following article was posted on soc.culture.japan.
I guess the originator does not mind my forwarding this to here...

Jaehoon

p.s. Yes, I am back.

---- Beginning of forwarded article ----
burma@igc.org writes on soc.culture.japan:

Newsgroups:   bit.listserv.seasia-l
Date:         Sun, 5 Apr 1992 18:18:23 PDT
Reply-To: Southeast Asia Discussion List <SEASIA-L%MSU.bitnet@UCSFVM.UCSF.EDU>
From: "Indonesia Publications/Task Force" <apakabar%IGC.ORG@UCSFVM.UCSF.EDU>
Subject:      Japan's Sex Tourists
X-To:         seasia-l@msu.edu
To: Multiple recipients of list SEASIA-L <SEASIA-L@MSU.ucsf.EDU>
Status: RO

   AP, Tokyo, Mari Yamagichi, April 2 - A popular Japanese publisher is coming
under attack from feminist groups for offering tour books that tell where
to find prostitutes and strip shows in Asian nations.
   The feminists claim the publisher, K.K. Bestsellers, already has
promised to withdraw "Southeast Asia for Men Traveling Alone."
   On Thursday, they also demanded that Bestsellers donate profits from
its guidebook to groups that promote sexual equality.
   "Even though they've removed the books from bookstore shelves, the
human rights of women, which they have walked all over, will remain
damaged," said Asayo Aoki, a representative of the Osaka-based Woman
Against Sexual Violence, which has about 120 members.
   Aoki said the guidebook reflects a sexism prevalent in Japanese
society. Although there is an increased awareness of sexual harassment,
many Japanese men read pornographic comic books and magazines while they
commute on subways. Tabloids and sports newspapers carrying pornography
are also popular among businessmen.
   The guidebook is filled with pictures of scantily dressed women,
recommended night clubs and massage parlors.
   "Make your hot night in Manila even hotter. ... So many spots for
lovemaking," says the section on the Philippines.
   In the Thailand section, the book, written by freelance writer Toshio
Shoji, says, "Many young girls, and cheap too."
   "There is no fixed price here, so the appropriate price is about half
of what they say. Bargaining is normal," says a chapter on the
Indonesian island of Bali.
   Local newspapers say Bestsellers has sold about 50,000 copies of the
edition on Asia, and another 30,000 copies of a guide to Europe.
   "Our purpose was to introduce foreign countries the way they are, and
we have no intention to promote prostitution," Japan's largest
newspaper, Yomiuri, quoted a Bestsellers editor as saying.
   The publisher refused to discuss the book with The Associated Press.

--- End of Article ---
-- 
   Jaehoon Lee: Jeon-Im Researcher at Korea Telecom Research Center (KTRC)
   Internet:    jae@Sorak.KAIST.ac.kr  (SDN account)
   * Hey! My opinions have nothing to do with my company/my boss. *
From: mchung@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Michael Chung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Gosh
Date: 11 Apr 92 22:36:35 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Apr9.124710.11605@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> f8zy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:

>Manners, manners, yeah yeah
>It seems very easy for you to reply to any response given to your postings
>whether intelligent or not... (I'm sure you'll think of a GREAT response to
>this one.) (Flaming is such ugly business...)
>So enlighten me oh erudite one...
>What is your nationality? I'd like to make it my business to know...
>If you are Korean, then I feel sorry for you, the rest of this group has
>isolated you as a source of anti-Korean sentiments and that must make you feel
>great! BTW notice that while many people responded to your posting, I've yet to
>read one which reflects positively on your opinion... (except your own of
>course...)
>If you are not Korean, then I really can't say much except "Live and let live"
>(hehehe)
>If you just get a kick out of annoying people, well then go ahead I can't stop
>you...

	I become quite upset and embarrassed when reading articles like
above.  Often times, I noticed that we (note, I included myself) get
overtly defensive when arguments are made accusing or acting against
korea.  Although it is natural first reaction, I would like to
encourage a bit more of thought before flaming or making personal
attact.  My knowledge on this topic is very limited, and I enjoyed
reading both "pro-korean" and "anti-korean" sides of creation of
hangul, but I certainly wouldn't say that Mr.Horne is "a source of
anti-Korean sentiments."  Although he tends to be more than a bit
sarcastic at times, his information has been and can be of some value.
	All I wanted to say here, in essence, was that it would be a
lot more helpful for person like myself for participants to show less
of your wit to ridicule others and spend those time for contribution
to more informative discussions on hangul.
	One minor point: does it matter whether he (Mr. Horne) is
korean or not?  He certainly seems to know the language and has
expressed great interest in informing us (me) of his knowledge.
Although I didn't appreciate the tone in which he corrected other
netter's points, Mr. Horne's information has been far more convincing
to me than from any others thus far.

Kag-Lae (Kurtis) Kim
mchung@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean