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From: stanton@haas.berkeley.edu (Richard Stanton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: How to retain DESKTOP after reinstalling FAT --> HPFS?
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:49:52 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Haas School of Business, U.C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: connor.berkeley.edu

Several people have kindly given me instructions about moving from a fully 
FAT system to a HPFS system, and the consensus is that I need to back up my 
data, reinstall OS/2 with HPFS, and restore again.

This is all very well 
apart from one BIG hassle I can see. Do I have to reinstall the default 
DESKTOP under HPFS, then customize it from scratch? This would be an 
incredible pain. If there's a way to save my current desktop settings, then 
restore them under HPFS, I'd be very grateful to anybody who could tell me 
how.

Thanks a lot

Richard Stanton
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: I've seen NT......and I'll take OS/2 2.0 thanks!
From: frey@alfheim.actrix.gen.nz (Bruce Clement)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 12:54:41 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Private System

rommel@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE writes in article <1992Aug13.114605.7935@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE>:
> 
> In article <1992Aug13.073141.16594@actrix.gen.nz> Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
> >BTW, the MS presenter also said that Presentation Manager support will be
> >incorporated in NT in 1993. Is this recognition that OS/2 V2 is a viable
> >market presence?
> 
> It would be interesting to know if this means a complete implementation
> of the OS/2 1.x (16-bit) API or if this includes support for the 32-bit
> OS/2 2.0 API.
 
At the major preview/presentation that MS gave at the show, they said
that the 1st version will incorporate POSIX & OS/2 *full screen* APIs, and
that presentation manager would be added to a second release next year.

When questioned, they admitted:
 1. OS/2 support means OS/2 1.x
 2. The POSIX support will be system calls (& programmer libraries) only,
      not shell/etc.

Another interseting point about the presentation: Several IBM staff
were in the audience - one admitted to me (privately) that they were 
just checking out the opposition :-).
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From: mskreis@iastate.edu (Mark S Kreisberg)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Please explain this IBM Tech Supp. statement
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:00:53 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA

Can someone please explain this statement:

	When installing auxiliary parallel port expansion cards, you need to
	ensure that they are configured to share interrupt level 7 (IRQ7).
	Not doing so will cause printing under OS/2 to function erratically.

I found this statement in     "OS/2 Tips and Techniques 
                                     Version 1.1
                                       4/20/92"

I ask this because I recently added another parallel port to my computer.  The 
directions for the card state that its interrupt is fixed at IRQ 7.  I assumed
that both ports should have different interrupts so I changed the interrupt on
my I/O card from 7 to 5 (which, by default, has a base address of lpt2).  The
base address for the expansion card is lpt1.

Everything seemed fine, both ports were recognized through DOS 5.0, but OS/2
would not recognize lpt2 (none of my jobs would print and the port would time-
out).

If I am interpretting the above statement correctly, I should let both ports
share IRQ7.  I have been told, however, that this could cause a problem if I
try to use both devices simultaneously.

Can someone please explain/help me with this problem?

Thanks,
Mark K
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From: jja@wsl.ie (John J. Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: SVGA won't work
Date: 20 Aug 92 09:52:38 GMT
Organization: Project Papyrus, AIRAID, Dublin, Ireland

Enter the command "SVGA <ON | OFF>" will indeed give you a file not
found error.

enter either
"SVGA ON" or
"SVGA OFF"

Ok.
From: holmes@gorilla.nbn.com (Tim Holmes)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Word Perfect under OS/2
Date: 20 Aug 92 01:47:39 GMT
Organization: GORILLA BBS

When I use WP 5.1 under OS/2, it has a very hard time opening 
text files.  Little ones will eventually open, but with large ones,
say over 80k, WP says "DOS text conversion in progress", but it
just sits there for minutes (or longer, I haven't waited) with
no hard disk accesses or anything.  I went through it with
IBM Tech Support in Florida, and they were able to duplicate the problem, 
but it was kind of left as, "well, you should call back and see if
there's any news, this report will be automatically erased in
28 days."  Didn't inspire too much confidence.

There must be people running WP under OS/2.  This seems like a
pretty major bug.  I hope this one isn't just erased after 28 days.
Anybody out there have this problem?  Or a work around for it?


 

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: DPMI, XMS, EMS settings?
From: H. Choe <HXC6@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 11:05:04 EDT
Organization: Penn State University

I have a stat. analysis program [DOS] which uses DPMI compatible dos
extender.  Since I plan to analyze some big data sets (>6 or 7MB), I
changed DPMI_MEMORY_LIMIT to 8MB.  Do I have to change XMS_MEMORY_LIMIT
and EMS_MEMORY_LIMIT too?  I have 16Mb memory.

More generally, could anybody explain what these settings do in terms
of PHYSICAL MEMORY usage and VIRTUAL MEMORY usage?  (Please do not
explain the differences between XMS and EMS, or what DPMI means..., etc.
I want to know practical implications only.)   At what size of data,
would the program [program itself does not utilize disk space] start
using disk space?  Thanks....
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: gwebster@ugly.UVic.CA (This space for rent)
Subject: Re: Two New OS/2 Books from Abacus
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.misc 
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 20:55:49 GMT

In article <1992Aug22.172955.7060@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>Per an advertisement in Byte, Abacus Books is now offering two new
>OS/2 2.0 books.
>
>OS/2 Complete: From installation, to overview, to the basics of the
>Presentation Manager, you'll learn how to take full advantage of this
>new operating environment.  Item #B157.  ISBN 1-55755-157-X.  Sugg.
>Price $24.95.

First Windows is an "operating system" now OS/2 is an "operating environment"
????

Things are getting out of hand...
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: friesenda@skyfox.usask.ca
Subject: OS/2 - What a pig :)
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 22:20:07 GMT

Well, I finally installed OS/2.  I've been holding off because of summer
classes (just incase comething went wrong!) and the fact that I hadn't
had the time to clear up enough disk space.

Just one comment;  what a pig!  Takes forever to open/close windows/
applications.  Might have something to do with the fact that I only
have 4Mb of memory installed :)  I hope to upgrade that in the VERY
near future.  But you know what?  Despite its current speed, I'll still
take it over Windows.

I have a LOT of questions, but before I waste anymore bandwidth I'll
read the README and FAQ files.  You should hear from me again soon
though...

signed, a happy (OS/2) camper.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: lemieux@eecg.toronto.edu (Guy Gerard Lemieux)
Subject: Re: Whats needed to run E.EXE?
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:14:23 GMT

dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:

>In article <19AUG199208472481@cl2.cl.uh.edu> CSCI11BA@cl.uh.edu writes:
>>Greetings,
>>
>>I just made myself a bootable floppy with MAKEBOOT.CMD, and now I am 
>>trying to figure out how to invoke the system editor (E.EXE)... 
>>with no luck.  It seems the more DLL's I point to in config.sys, the
>>more trouble I am getting myself into.  Id like to be able to put
>>E.EXE on a floppy, and run it from there, just in case the HD crashes, etc.
>>
>>So, can anybody tell me what I need to stick on the floppy in order to 
>>execute the system editor without the system telling me it cant find
>>'xxxx'.DLL???

>Not bloody likely.  E.EXE is a PM application.  PM is a huge slew of
>DLL's.  There isn't enough room on two floppies to hold them, even if
>there was nothing else there.

Try ftp software.watson.ibm.com in pub/os2.  There is a TINYED program
which is very good (it is only 9k!).  The key sequences are very
similar to the enhanced editor for many functions.  You have cut+paste,
line moving, etc.

Guy
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: tbieleck@nyx.cs.du.edu (Tom Bielecki)
Subject: Where can I buy OS/2 2.0???
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 22:22:38 GMT


I have checked a couple local stores, and non of them carry OS/2 2.0
for some reason. I would rather run OS/2 2.0 than MS Windows, or DOS
( a sorry excuse for an OS ). So, could someone tell me where (I
heard of an 800 IBM number) I can go about purchasing the $40 version???



Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sci240s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Wey Jing HO)
Subject: Re: Video video video...
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:45:20 GMT

In <92232.115838BJT105@psuvm.psu.edu> <BJT105@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>Within a month IBM will Beta 32-bit ET4000 drivers, along with the 32-bit
>graphics engine.  Since these drivers are generic ET4000, which manufacturer
>is not as important a consideration.  (In the test labs they have Orchid IIs,
>STB Powergraph, Diamond Speedstar, Boca Research (older ones, they now use NCR
>chips instead of Tseng), Amdek, and a couple others.  The biggest compatability
>problem is getting the SVGADATA.PMI file generated when the card is in the
>proper state to match the capabilities of the monitor (as far as refresh).
>Drivers for other chipsets will be coming, but timeframes are hard to guess.
>You can be sure the you will have Tseng ET4000 drivers soon, so that's what
>I'd recommend. The drivers will be 32-bit with seamless windows in all
>resolutions, and pallete management.  Believe it or not, the 16 color drivers
>are on a later schedule, so the 256 color drivers will be released first.
>(so the higher speed of 16 colors will not be available immediately).


What about support for the 15-bit/16-bit RAMDAC which enable 32K colors and
65K colors respectively? Any plan for their support? I love the 32K colors
support under Windows 3.1 although it can be slow. I am beginning to dream for
32-bit GRE under OS/2 with proper ET4000 drivers that support either the 15-bit
or 16-bit RAMDAC (or is it called the Hi-Sierra chip?) ..... hhhmmm maybe very
soon!!!

>Bernie
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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Where is my DOS C: partition
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:06:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Aug18.131848.11474@unlinfo.unl.edu> vandevek@cse.unl.edu (James Vandevegt) writes:
>wrp@cyclops.micr.Virginia.EDU (Bill Pearson) writes:
>>	I would like to know what to do to have OS/2 recognize both
>>my DOS C: and D: partitions (although they need not keep those names),
>>so that when I run OS/2, I have three partitions.
>
>Remember, Only one of your many primary partitions on your hard drive
>may be active at any one time.  Inactive partitions can *NOT* be
>accesses.  Logical partitions are accessable by any active partition.
>To get OS/2 shut down and boot up DOS 5, you have to have the boot 
>manager installed.  If not, booting off a floppy and using FDISK from
>DOS 5 on the floppy might do the trick.  To have access to all files
>all the time, you have to use the dual boot feature where both
>operating systems reside on the same primary boot partition and
>you can't use the high performance file system 'cause it's incompatible
>with DOS.

However, you can install OS/2 to a logical drive in the extended
partition, and it will boot from there (using boot manager).  You can
format this logical drive as FAT or HPFS.  Since it is a logical
drive, your C: drive remains the primary partition, and is always
visible.  DOS will be able to read the logical drive(s) if they're
formatted as FAT.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Use your "unsupported" CD-ROM drive natively with OS/2!
From: conrad@actrix.gen.nz (Conrad Bullock)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 22:18:00 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1992Aug17.194511.27929@inmet.camb.inmet.com> newbie@dylan.camb.inmet.com (Chris Newbold) writes:
> This probably rates as a mild hack, but if you want CD-ROM support without
> waiting or spending money...
> 
> After installing my Sony CDU-541 CD-ROM drive and having a ball under DOS,
> Linux and Windows NT, I tried OS/2. No dice. The driver spat out the
> id string for my drive and pompusly declared "Unsupported vendor." What a 
> load of horsepucky. It's a SCSI CD-ROM drive, just like the Toshiba and
> IBM drives which are supported. *SCSI* That means there is some semblance
> of standardization. The driver shouldn't give a damn what's on the other
> end, as long as it will talk SCSI with a supported host.
> 
> But, I though, par for the course, looking at the crappy video driver
> support in OS/2.
> 
> So, I copied the CD-ROM driver CDROM.SYS off my HPFS partition into a FAT
> parition; load it up under debug. Low and behold. There are a couple of
> vendor id strings... So, I just replaced the word "TOSHIBA" with "SONY"
> (filling the three remaining letters with spaces) and wrote it out.
> 
> Load up OS/2, copy it back into the HPFS partition, reboot and.. Voila!
> The happy-little-camper driver installed itself running my Sony drive.

The easiest way is to add the /I parameter (I *think* it's /I), which tells
the driver to ignore the manufacturer info.

> I seriously wonder if this whole "unsupported vendor" thing isn't a
> marketing sham to get people to buy hardware from certain vendors or
> get vendors to dump a load of money on IBM for some "driver development kit."
> 
> When will they learn that for an OS to be successful it must support a very
> broad range of hardware? Passing the buck to a third party because you
> are afraid of detracting from your own hardware sales because you write
> a driver for someone else's product just isn't going to wash with me...

I believe the manufacturer-specific code is for 'non-data' extensions (ie
audio). These will probably not work if you use the /I flag (or hack the
ID string).

I can't remember which bit of documentation I read about the CDROM.SYS
flags though - probably one of the (many) INF files available through IBM.




Xref: sparky comp.os.os2.misc:27365 comp.os.os2.programmer:4218
From: mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mike Levis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: Request for info about kernel pre-emption and priorities
Date: 14 Aug 92 07:25:49 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <1992Aug14.054245.25657@nuscc.nus.sg> eletanjm@nuscc.nus.sg (TAN JIN MENG) writes:
>terence@tanru.tti.com ( Terry) writes:
>: I looked in my copy of "The Design of OS/2" for the answers to the
>: aforementioned questions and learned a number of things, including that
>: the kernel is indeed non-preemptible but can be interrupted.  Also, that
>                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>HUH? explicate please ...?
>Do you mean that the kernel can receive interruptsss but delays the task
>wakeup until the current kernel task finishes?

Pages 134 and 135 of _The Design of OS/2_ discuss this.
When a time-critical thread is ready to run, the thread in
the kernel yields the processor (but only at certain places
in the kernel, see below).  The yielding thread receives
control of the processor again after all the time-critical
thread(s) have completed, since OS/2 gives the yielding thread
a priority just below the lowest time-critical thread.

Actually, the OS/2 kernel is voluntarily preemptable (rather
than non-preemptible).  The thread in the kernel can be
preempted by time-critical threads *at certain places in the
kernel* (interrupted), but it cannot be preempted by other
(non-time-critical) threads.

IBM is working on making the kernel to be fully preemptible
(reentrant).  Since this would allow preemption *anywhere* in
the kernel, a thread in the kernel would be allowed to be
preempted by any thread (time-critical or not), and allow
multiple threads in the kernel.

>: process can have their priority boosted under different conditions.
>: Another question we had concerning real-time issues was answered:
>: Time-critical tasks have a maximum reschedule time of 6 ms after they're
>: ready to run.  This was also important to us.
>
>6ms to reschedule a time critical task? Seems a little high to me - or
>is this timing related to the fact that the kernel is non preemptible?

Actually, my copy of _The Design of OS/2_ says 4ms (not 6ms).

Most of the kernel is designed so threads can complete rapidly.
But parts of the kernel are time consuming.  These areas are
designed so that they voluntarily yield the processor to
time-critical threads (if any).  See my statements above for
the details.

>jin meng


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From: ifam655@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jeff Lessem)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: int13 driver and multiple hard drives
Date: 22 Aug 92 20:36:21 GMT
Distribution: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

Does the use of the int13 driver to access a hard drive slow down the
access of all hard drives, or just the one that is being accessed by the driver?
My situation.  I have one IDE drive and one MFM drive in my computer.
The IDE drive can be accessed normally with the st506 driver, but the
MFM drive can only be accessed by the int13 driver.  Is OS/2 going
to access the IDE via the st506 and the MFM via the slower int13 (as I
would hope it should do) or will it access both of them via the int13?

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From: "marv kohn" <marv.kohn@execnet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: os/2 users groups
Date: 13 Aug 92 02:58:49 EST
Reply-To: "marv kohn" <marv.kohn@execnet.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Executive Networks Information

     Craig Smith (the president of the Westchester NY OS/2 Users Group) is
trying to compile a list of OS/2 Users Groups from around the world.  If
you are active in an OS/2 specific group, we would like to know about it. 
You can contact Craig directly at (914)-686-9828, or you can send me an
email message.  My email address is marv.kohn@execnet.com.  I will get the
information to Craig.   He would like to know the name of your group, the
name of a contact person, and a phone contact.

     For anybody near the Westchester NY area, our next meeting is scheduled
for Wed, Aug 26, at 7 pm.  The address is 500 Mamaroneck Ave, (just south
of the Hutch pkwy), fifth floor.

- Marv Kohn -
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From: d9mikael@dtek.chalmers.se (Mikael Wahlgren)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Logitech mouse problem
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:33:02 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology

A friend have a Logitech mouse (Series 9, serial, modell CC-93).  I know
nothing about it, but apparantly he tried to install it as an usual
IBM/MS serial mouse first, which didn't work.  Then he added the driver
PCLOGIC (and refered to it in the MOUSE driver) and that got the mouse
going.  But when he moves the mouse slowly the mouse is tracking very badly
and when he moves it fast, it takes a quick jump to the correct direction
BUT then it JUMPS BACK to almost the same position as previous.

Anyone with a clue?  It is connected to the COM2 port BTW.

Mikael Wahlgren      d9mikael@dtek.chalmers.se
From: "andrew makiejewski" <andrew.makiejewski@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: bernoulli 90 and os/2
Date: 23 Aug 92 00:56:25 EST
Reply-To: "andrew makiejewski" <andrew.makiejewski@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems


A friend of mine has the Bernoulli 90 system and is seriously thinking
of getting OS/2. I have no idea if OS/2 will work with the unit. He just
wants to get access to the unit. He also wants to know if the cartridges
can be formatted in HPFS mode.

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Date: Monday, 17 Aug 1992 14:20:11 EST
From: Thomas Permutt <TPERMUTT@UMAB.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject:    shutdown, startup: curiouser and curiouser

As you may recall, my shutdown had stopped working, and I had several programs
running on startup, whose icon-shading did not correctly reflect whether they
were open or not.  I did some experiments with one such program, which
happened to be "view.exe cmdref.inf," the Command Reference.  I created a
new program-reference object to call view.exe, and it inherited the same grey-
icon disease.  I copied view.exe to a new file, and created a reference to it.
This also inherited the disease.  Therefore, it would seem that when OS/2 gets
into the state mine is in now, it does so by modifying the executable files
themselves (presumably the "extended attributes") rather than any reference
to them.

I know c.o.o.advocacy is a separate group, but may I be allowed to opine here
that, if I have diagnosed the problem correctly, it is a reasonable design for
a virus, but a *very bad* one for an operating system.

Tom Permutt
From: gcs@edsi.plexus.COM (Greg C. Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Can't change icon text colors
Summary: Having problems changing icon text colors in 2.0, sometimes
Keywords: icon text color
Date: 19 Aug 92 00:16:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: edsi.1992Aug19.001651.6130
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI


I've tried this numerous times with a few users and it doesn't 
always work.  In OS/2 2.0 I try to change the color of the icon 
text in the scheme palette.  The change takes place on the scheme 
palette screen but when I try to apply it to the desktop, the 
change doesn't take.  What's the fix for this?  We are using true 
blue IBM equipment.
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