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From: finifter@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Tracy E. Finifter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: Evil (Spoiler-free)
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:49:42 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

tmm@asns.tredydev.Unisys.COM (Tim McCaffrey) writes:

>You know, its strange, but just as Alia (sp?) leaped I got a burst of
>static for about 5 seconds.  It cleared up when *Sam* leaped.  I talked
>to some other people, and we think KYW-3 is probably the one that screwed
>up.

>Shades of the B*****man.

No, shades of one of the most pathetic affiliates in existence.  Thank
TBEU that WNBC in New York doesn't have such problems.  They never cut into
the opening with those damn "Current Affair" promos.

Keep leaping...

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*  finifter@gandalf.rutgers.edu		  *    "Leapers do it time after      *
*  Douglass College, Rutgers University   *        time after time..."        *
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From: sallylb@netcom.com (Sally Smith)
Subject: Re: QL:New Blood Revenge
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:26:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.022056.8284@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> jenkirtl@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Jennifer Kirtley) writes:

>Well, that tells me when the book was published, but not really when it
>was written.  The descrepancies between the book and the show *could*
>be explained if the book was written early on in QL `history' (?!?);

As far as I can remember, I believe this book was written sometime
within the last year, i.e. after at least 3 seasons, maybe more --
enough time for the rules to have been established.

Sally




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From: kimp@rpi.edu
Subject: QL: Leap Home 3!
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:40:24 GMT

How about this idea as a final (sob) episode?

     Sam leaps back to himself (in the year 1999 or whatever) and he
     must save a person's life.  The catch is, everyone (including Al)
     think Sam's back to himself.  If this idea is to be used as a
     final episode, it would be "awesome" after Sam leaps out, he's
     back to himself, again!
From: tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: Deliver Us ... and The Leap Back
Date: 12 Nov 92 09:41:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxLK8z.8q4
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

>(of course, I
>am not so sure I believe Sam being what, 45?)

Of course, that's if Sam has aged while Leaping.  Never mind that apparently
Limbo has a barber shop......

LJC



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From: gap@astro.ocis.temple.edu (George Piotrowski)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL- Have I missed the Evil-Leaper yet???
Date: 5 Nov 92 05:46:11 GMT
Organization: Temple University
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Tracy E. Finifter (finifter@gandalf.rutgers.edu) wrote:
: abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick) writes:
: 
: 
: >	On most stations last night, Quantum Leap was cancelled because
: >ever someone decided to have an election. The station I get from Montreal
: >had a comprimise an put on a re-reun. I forget the title but it was the
: >one with Sam having no legs.
: >	Anyways, I thought oh well the Evil Leaper must be on next week.
: >	I'm from Canada and watch Star Trek : The Next Generation a lot
: >and some people in the U.S. are one week ahead of us. I'm not sure how
: >that works or why, but it is therefor possible that while the Evil Leaper
: 
: >Alan Bick
: 
: >Too bad PEROT lost. He would have made the United States...interesting.
: 	- 'tis true, but anyway...
: 
: in first-run syndication.  What this means is that Paramount beams (no pun
: intended) each week's episode by satellite to all the stations in the U.S.
: and Canada who have rights to air it on a regular schedule.  It is then up
: to the local stations when THEY want to air it.  Therefore, each station that
: airs TNG can show it at a different night and time of the week.  Many people
: with satellite dishes, however, can get the feeds from the satellites
: directly, so they don't have to wait like the rest of us mortals (they also
: get it sans commercials).  As far as I know, (although, on this, I could be
: Keep leaping...
: LL&P,
: * Tracy E. Finifter			  * "The only thing worse than losing *

Not sans commercials!  The feed from the sattelite includes the national
commercials (the ones that Paramount sells). It includes blank space 
in certain places for the local spots.

Later,

George...
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From: ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sven E. Skoog)
Subject: Re: highlander - humph
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 07:43:57 GMT

I think we're missing the main point (or one of them) for this series.
Many of the plot conflicts which take place here are integral to the
differences between Duncan and Connor (or perhaps caused by them).

As previous posters have already stated, Duncan has a great deal to
live for.  He is 'young' (ha) and in love.  Material wealth is of no
consequence to him.  In many ways, he lives above the grimy Prize-
based idealism of others such as Victor Kurgen and Connor.  I feel
that the true center of this argument lies within the fact that Duncan
is less of an immortal than his counterparts.  As such, he intensely
dislikes being reminded of his abnormal background (note the terseness
he took on when he told Tess and the Brat to "Get out" when Joan Jett
collapsed on his doorstep?)  As such, he refuses in part to continue
on with the process that will eventually bring about the end of his
mortal existence (which is comparatively happy by other immortals'
standards).  Duncan reminds me more of Castagir (the African immortal
from the first movie), a Falstaffian figure who is more fond of life
than of the gains he can reap from it -- one notices Duncan lapsing
into philosophy more and more over the decades (as when he romanticizes
about the relationship between man and sword).  He lives, as Emily
Dickinson would put it, 'high on life'.  I DO agree, however, with a
previous post (memory fails me at the moment but please do take credit
where it is due);  Duncan does not have the same quality of being
'tired' as did his brethren.  It is, perhaps, this lack of detachment
which inspires him to leave a downed foe to live, or to take pity on
a young and unskilled immortal (I really don't think his promise to
Joan about "waiting until she was older" to kill her was meant in a
serious tone) which will prove to be his downfall when he meets others
who do live aloof from mortality.

On a side note, I think they should introduce Castagir (sp?) in an
episode... he was left very ambiguous and definitely had potential for
livening up an otherwise drab eternal existence.  (What was he drinking
out of that flask when Connor met him?  Muobuo?  And more retellings of
the time he got Connor drunk and left him to face an angry duellist
might be nothing short of HILARIOUS.)  

For real continuity (they've already introduced a few new immortals,
and there can't be too many running around in the 1980s unless we
assume that they die off at an exponential rate pre-Gathering) they
could have Duncan run into Alfiz (sp?  He's the guy with the Toledo
Salamanca who Connor beheads in the first fifteen minutes of the movie.)

Sorry if I've butchered too many pronouns here.  But do respond
however sarcastically with your thoughts and opinions.

************

Sven Skoog
ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Chem Engineering
University of Illinois

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From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt "Some Guy" Bose)
Subject: Re: QL: Deliver Us ... and The Leap Back
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 09:02:06 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <11NOV199215035097@elroy.uh.edu> st1r8@elroy.uh.edu (Guillot, Burt J.) writes:
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>have accelerator technology that _predates_ the PQL technology by a
>number of years rather than being from the Future (past 1999).

Alia doesn't _look_ 34, to my eyes, anyway.  If she can only leap within her
lifetime, and she was in '66, I'd say it's stretching it to say she could
have come from the far future.  I'd accept a pre-1999 P:DQL...(of course, I
am not so sure I believe Sam being what, 45?)

Of course, all bets are off if Alia can leap anywhere within Sam's lifetime. :)


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TONIGHT-In "Ryecatcher", Holden Caulfield foils a plot to turn his old prep
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                                                        -The Book of Sequels...
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From: jmsmith@eos.ncsu.edu (JEFFREY MARTIN SMITH)
Subject: Re: QL: DELIVER US FROM EVIL (AND SPOILERS!)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:56:56 GMT

In article <1dq1h6INN44p@mozz.unh.edu>, mre@kepler.unh.edu (Michael R Escutia) writes:
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|> What happened to Jimmy during those two days?  Why the heck DID Sam leap back
|> into Jimmy again, instead of just leaping on to his next adventure?  IMO, he
|> still had to realize that he had NOT seen the last of Alia--not by a long shot.

I took it that he leaped back two days to the morning before the original 
Leap in... His clothes would suggest that.

I really enjoyed this episode too except for the fact that I was hoping that
Al could see Zoey. and vice-versa of course.

L8er,
Jeff 
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From: ft@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Frances Teagle)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Archetypes in Blake's 7 : a question about Gan
Keywords: Blake's 7, B7, archetypes, Blake, Avon
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:19:40 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <Bx2vyL.138@access.digex.com> chevron@access.digex.com (chevron) writes:
>  Gan is
>attired almost exclusively in  browns - soil colors - representing
>his down-to-earth-ness, his simpleness (meaning uncomplicated, not
>stupid) and his former life as an off-world colonist, perhaps a
>farmer.

Attwood's programme guide states that Gan was a native of Zephron
and you identify him as a farmer, which certainly suits his 
personality, but I can find no mention of these facts in my BBC
"complete, unedited" tapes.  In "Time Squad" Gan says to Jenna
"I killed a security guard.  They said it was murder, but he had 
a gun, I was unarmed.  You see, he killed my woman".

However, I know these tapes are not quite so pristine as they
claim, because when the BEEB released the first sample tape,
containing a very edited amalgam of the first three episodes,
Avon's brawl with the computer technician aboard the London
was much longer and more violent than it appears in the "complete"
version issued shortly after.

Can some kind soul tell me when this information about Gan was
imparted, and what precisely was said, by whom?

Just curious,
FT
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From: oneil@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Deliver Us From Evil....
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:23:40 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

SPOLIERS.....













I *loved* this episoder. It raised a lot more questions than it 
answered and I can't wait to see Alia/Zoey in future episoders. 
Speaking of which, does anyone know how many more episodes they are 
set to appear in and when these will air?

Some observations:

Alia's leaps are most definately controlled by Lothos. But, Zoey and 
Alia are just Lothos' pawns.  Zoey constantly refers to Alia's 
"mission", "assignment", or "orders". There is no mention of 
probablility there. And then, at the end, she says that Alia has not 
leapt, because Lothos has *decided* that she has one last assignment 
(to kill Sam).
Zoey reference to "crawling out of hell" was purely metaphorical. She 
was referreing to the horrible assignments Alia/Zoey had been 
previously given (murder,etc.) They had worked their way throught 
these jobs in order to land "cushy" jobs like "homewrecking and 
adultery". So, obviously they are both human, and most likely just 
pawns of Lothos. Somehow Alia started leaping, and now Lothos will not 
let her return home until he/she decides she has done enough.
The reason Al sees Alia as Alia is because that is how Sam sees her.  
Al is tuned in to Sam's brainwaves, so he should logically see what 
Sam sees (excluding himself). Or, the field that was established when 
Sam and Alia touched extends to Al as well, since he is tuned in to 
Sam's brainwaves.
Someone mentioned earlier that it might be interesting for Sam to leap 
into one of Alia's "past" leaps. But this has not happened, or else 
Alia would have recognized Sam.
I doubt that Alia/Zoey come from Sam's far future (at most 2 or 3 
years in his future) for two reasons. First, the closer their two 
projects are to each other, the more Sam and Alia's lives will 
overlap, so that gives Don B. more time periods in which to have them 
clash. Second, if they were from Sam's far future then they would 
probably have records of his existence. In order for Ziggy to be 
accurate, she needs tons of data, a lot of it coming from the gov't. 
Lothos must work in much the same way, so he should have access to 
gov't files on PQL (even though it is classified now - Ziggy has 
access to much classified info , or can get access, and the further 
the Evil PQL is in the future, the less reason the gov't would have to 
keep the original QL classified).
One last intersting theory is that Alia and Zoey come from an 
"alternate" future to Sam and Al's. Perhaps in their future, Sam is 
changing history instead of fixing it. From Sam/Al's perspective, Sam 
is returning things that went wrong to their original status. But 
maybe in Alia/Zoey's future timeline all these things originally went 
wrong, and when Sam leaps, he changes them.  Just an idea..


					Tom

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From: ramsey@cua.edu (Betsy Ramsey)
Subject: BLAKES 7 Anonymous FTP Site Available
Summary: ftp.lysator.liu.se
Organization: The Catholic University of America
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:03:15 GMT

I am posting this message to news with Calle's permission.  Note: the
current IP address of ftp.lysator.liu.se, subject to change without
notice, is 130.236.254.1.  Use the name, not the numeric address, for
best results.
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Date: 11 Nov 1992 20:23:47 +0100
From: calle@lysator.liu.se
Subject: FTP Area
To: blake7@lysator.liu.se
Message-id: <199211111923.AA07883@ruben.lysator.liu.se>

Hello, everyone.

I've done some experimenting and persuading, and we now have an FTP
area. The address is ftp.lysator.liu.se, and the Blake's 7 stuff is in
subdirectory pub/blake7.

If you want to put stuff up for FTP, put it in pub/blake7/incoming and
notify me. I'll move it to where I think it fits. Note that you can't
read the incoming directory. That is intentional.

Also please note that our disk isn't too large. Currently the FTP
filesystem has about 100 Mb free, but lots of things are competing for
that space. Try to keep things small.

For those of you who can't use FTP, you can get files by mail. Send
mail to ftpserv@lysator.liu.se, without subject and with HELP as body
of the message for instructions.

If you can't use mail either, how on Earth are you getting this?

So, who'll be first putting something there? Personally I want that
quotes file someone had, how about you folks out there?


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From: jjh37997@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (James J. Herlburt)
Subject: QL: Evil Leaper
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: rec.arts.sf.tv
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:44:13 GMT

Okay, not to bad. In fact I rather liked it. The one thing I didn't catch
was what Zoey said to her partner while Sam was attempting to explain why
they shouldn't shoot him. I sort of got the idea that Zoey was saying that
she was some sort of demon. The idea of Old Nick running a QL project from
Hades just does not click with me. 

									

 
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From: kellyb@ccsua.ctstateu.edu
Subject: There can be only one(i think?)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:29:22 GMT

       As any fan of Highlander knows, the story kind of makes it self up
       as it goes along, with no regard for continuity.In the first movie
       Conor says he was born in Glen Finnan in 1518? but in "The Qickening"
       we find out he and all immortals are from the planet Ziest.Some one
       should flog the writter for the second movie,he ruined what could have
       a great sequal.What kind of punishment is being sent to a planet where
       you can't die and have greater powers?.No matter what they do it will
       still be one of my favorite stories and yes I like the series too but
       I think the writters could use a little fan input to give them some 
       ideas.

                                                 There can be only one

                                                     B.C.Kelly
Xref: sparky rec.arts.sf.tv:4698 rec.arts.comics.misc:6031 rec.arts.animation:5260
From: kmeyer@unf6.unf.edu (Karl Meyers)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: X-Men:  The Animated Series (*Minor Spoilers*)
Summary: Sheesh!
Keywords: X-Men (Animated)
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:32:30 GMT
Organization: University of North Florida, Jacksonville

In article <1NOV199222424829@csa1.lbl.gov> watts@csa1.lbl.gov (PAUL N WATTS) writes:
>In article <1cunogINNdll@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
>(Charles E Gibbs) writes...
>
>[Review of X-Men series deleted]
>
>This post belongs in rec.arts.comics.xbooks, not here.  I think it's safe to
>assume you'll find more interest in that group than you will here.
>
Ahem...

(1) X-MEN, as seen on Fox, is an animated series.
(2) This *is* rec.arts.animation, last time I checked.

Conclusion: If anyone wants to talk about the animated series X-MEN here, they
can do so.  And they have.  That's like saying discussion on BTAS belongs
on r.a.comics.misc instead of here, which is ALSO false.

(Putting away ACME FlameSpitter 2000... :)

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From: jjh37997@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (James J. Herlburt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: Deliver Us (Spoilers)
Keywords: QL evil
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:42:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxMpy8.2vz
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In article <cardinal.721588311@pythagoras> cardinal@informix.com (Edward Cardinal) writes:
>SPOILER ALERT for Quantum Leap "Deliver Us From Evil"...
>
>(I hope my ^L here works right)
>
>Check me if I'm wrong, but everyone seems to be talking about how Sam
>leapt AHEAD two days.... I thought when Al said "We lost two days," he
>meant that they leapt BACK two days, as if none of the episode had ever
>happened, that Frank wasn't cheating, and Sam/Jimmy had never even
>crashed the forklift yet. In a sense, he leapt out (finally) before he
>ever lept in (initially), so the whole timespace of the episode was no
>more than a private battleground; no real events were effected at all.
>
>Ok, on to the rest of the episode -- I liked it, in general; however, I
>thought the ending was getting a little preachy. Maybe. We can't tell
>if Zoey (Zooey? Zoe?) said "Hell" or "hell", that is, the metaphysical
>dwelling place of The Evil One, or just a personal really bad
>situation, like a dictatorship or something.
>
>** SPECULATIONS AHOY **
>
>My guess it is P:EQL (Project: Evil Quantum Leap) is not a government
>sponsored thing, but privately funded. I think Alia and Zoey (or at
>least Alia) are just people who were blackmailed or kidnapped into
>participating, and Zoey really got into it. I don't think their evil
>deeds are evil just for the sake of evil, but are part of a vast plot
>to enrich or empower the P:EQL funders. Maybe Frank, Jimmy, or Connie
>is destined to stop them from doing/getting something they want. Think
>about it; a carefully planned assasination of a rival's grandfather would
>make the rival simply never have existed. Moving money or holdings into the
>right investments means instant wealth and power. It's not necessarily
>inherent, pure Evil, just human greed.
>
>Until we see more, I don't think we can say definitively. I hope that
>the EL plotline doesn't become too regular, because it would get old
>very fast... they should keep it an infrequent, unwelcome guest thing,
>like "Q" on ST:TNG.
>
>P.S., the F/X were killer on the Evil side. (pun intended...)
>
>P.P.S. What was the Evil "Ziggy's" name? I couldn't catch it; I think it
>started with an "L"...

I thought it was Logos which is a great name for a AI. It means reason
or the power of God. Just perfect for our evil computer.

On the net a lot of people are saying Lothos. I guess we just have to
have Sally check the script.

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