From: cms@dragon.com (Spawn of a Jewish Carpenter (Cindy Smith))
Newsgroups: alt.messianic
Subject: Re:  Christian Kabbalah
Date: 24 Dec 92 11:39:43 EST
Organization: Computer Projects Unlimited

In article <1h796cINNhnd@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, friedenb@emerald.egr.msu.edu (Gedaliah Friedenberg) writes:
> In article <1992Dec19.173417.994@dragon.com> cms@dragon.com (Spawn of a Jewish Carpenter (Cindy Smith)) writes:
> 
> [article deleted - .sig follows]
> 
> -- 
> Cindy Smith              --  Spawn of a Jewish Carpenter
> cms@dragon.com           ||  A Real Live Catholic in Georgia
>                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>        **AT LEAST CINDY WAS KIND ENOUGH TO REMIND US THAT**
>              **"MESSIANIC" JEWS ARE CHRISTIANS!!!!**
> 
> emory!dragon!cms         ||  
>><>                      /\  Woe to craven hearts and drooping hands,
> Delay not your       .--/--\--.  to the sinner who treads a double path!
> conversion       |----\/-||-\/----| Woe to the faint of heart who trust not,
> to the Lord,     |----/\-||-/\----|   who therefore will have no shelter!
> put it not off       `--\--/--'     Woe to you who have lost hope!
> from day to day          \/   what will you do at the visitation of the Lord?
>                          ||           
>      -- Ecclesiasticus   ||           -- Ecclesiasticus/Ben Sira 2:12-14  
>         /Ben Sira 5:8    --    
> 
> (P.S., overlaying a "Jewish Star" on a cross is like overlaying a 
> swastika on a peace symbol.  It is impossible to mix such things.)

 I do not equate the Magen David with a swastika over the peace symbol 
of the Cross, as you suggest.  Nor do I equate the Cross with a 
swastika over the peace symbol of the Magen David, the reverse of your 
suggestion.  I believe that both Star of David and the Cross are 
symbols of peace.  In a world torn by war and strife and bloodshed and 
hatred, we can use such symbols.  At each other's throats, we weaken 
the cause of peace in a world that desperately desires and needs 
peace.  We're stronger together than apart.

 I come in peace.  Though our differences be strong, we can at least 
discuss our differences without resorting to pejoratives.  In fact, I 
didn't make this posting on Kabbalah to discuss our differences; I 
merely posted it because I thought the interest level in this group 
for such material was sufficient to warrant its presentation.

> Gedaliah Friedenberg
> -=-Department of Mechanical Engineering
> -=-Department of Metallurgy, Mechanics and Materials Science
> -=-Michigan State University

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Cindy Smith              --  Spawn of a Jewish Carpenter
cms@dragon.com           ||  A Real Live Catholic in Georgia
emory!dragon!cms         ||  
><>                      /\  Woe to craven hearts and drooping hands,
Delay not your       .--/--\--.  to the sinner who treads a double path!
conversion       |----\/-||-\/----| Woe to the faint of heart who trust not,
to the Lord,     |----/\-||-/\----|   who therefore will have no shelter!
put it not off       `--\--/--'     Woe to you who have lost hope!
from day to day          \/   what will you do at the visitation of the Lord?
                         ||           
     -- Ecclesiasticus   ||           -- Ecclesiasticus/Ben Sira 2:12-14  
        /Ben Sira 5:8    --