From: shamshoo@shelley.u.washington.edu (Shams Hasan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: The Language on SCP
Date: 7 Jan 1993 18:05:53 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: shelley.u.washington.edu
Summary: Indu, be cool u fool !  Deb(uttante) Chatter Jee, Bhangi #2 speaketh.
Keywords: Hang loose on the Caboose !

In article <1993Jan6.201931.46169@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan06.152708.22728@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM>, 
>indu@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM () writes:
>> To: shamshoo@shelley.u.washington.edu
>> In article <1id3t6INNs05@shelley.u.washington.edu> you write:
>>>In merchant@davidsys.com (Rukhsana Merchant) writes:
>>>>
>>>>	In regards to the language on SCP:
>>>>....... (deleted)......
>>>>Rukhsana Merchant
>>>
>>>
>>>Dear Rukhsana Merchant,
>>>
>>>As I have earlier mentioned in SCI, we need to take a more amused and tolerant
>>>view of the language used, especially if some or most of us have to visit,
>>>India, Pakistan and Bangladesh now and then. Were we to forget the reality of
>>>trash (eg Bhangies and Chamaars) back home, whome you will surely encounter as
>> 
>>    Man!  this is a racist remark. If you do not like something or donot
>>    approve of something that is your problem. Then why do you want  to pull 
>>    some other innocent community. [R U shameless to say that you are moved 
>>    and had tears,  and utter such bullshit].
>> 
>>    I'm not here to  discuss the rights and wrongs of those posters. Who the
>>    hell R U to comment upon  certain communities? Learn to keep yourself in 
>>    restrained if you can't think with out dividing people on some basis or 
>>    other.
>> 
>>    What do you mean by Bhangis or Chamaars?
>> 
>>>they are now sending their children abroad with new money, we would all face
>>>a cultural shock far severe then what you normally experience vis a vis West
>>>to East.
>>>
>>>For your benefit and for others, I will say this: 
>>>
>>>1)	Encourage these individuals to post more trash. You will be better
>>>	off, knowing what to expect than when you would not, when passing
>>>	a slum/red light area, should you get lost in a big city back home.
>> 
>>    Looks like your are a arrogant ass from Pakistan or where ever you are 
>>    from who is dead drunk with your  money. What hell do you mean by Slums 
>>    and Red light areas.   Are they not humans?  Do you have two horns to make
>>    yourself better than  other humans?
>> 
>>    Probably they may lack your aristrocratic-filthy-sophistry  but  
>>    they are sincere  and honest. 
>> 
>>    Looks like you are worse   than these guys who have posted offensive
>>    stuff. They have atleast done everything openly. You have given a  vent to
>>    your perversions, hiding behind the mask of I'M-HOLY-REST-R-UNHOLY.
>> 
>>>
>>>2)	If you were back home, and walking/driving past and found dogs 
>>>	barking at you for no reason, what do you normally do ?
>> 
>>     Yeah!  Dogs bark at thieves and goons.
>> 
>>>3)	There are enough bozoos and weirdoos out there who are their own
>>>	worst enemy. Sooner or later they will take care of themselves.
>>>
>>>4)	However, when new ones pop up, it is a brief interlude, and you
>>>	must understand that these poor souls are lonely and destitute, 
>>>	getting no attention from any one except on the internet. 
>>>	In fact, as their foul language gets fouler, you can almost feel the 
>>>	desperation in their articles. 
>> 
>>    Must be. I donot now, looks like you are a big authority on bozoos and 
>>    wierdos and these type of stuff. R U that experienced or what?
>> 
>>>5)	Lastly, do what I have done at UW. Ask local Americans to get
>>>	involved in at least viewing these posts, and you will find some 
>>>	of them are really curious about India, Pakistan, and Bangaladesh,
>>>	as they know very little about people from there. They seem to be
>>>	very interested in this Hindu/Muslim thing, especially after the
>>>	destruction of the Babri Mosque.
>> 
>>    Now this nut is coming out slowly. This idiot want to project his 
>>    more positive, secularist bullshitting  image. So inorder to prove him
>>    a better person, he tries to show his american friends  some trash and
>>    convince them of his "hi pedestal" level.
>> 
>>    Whether you are a pakistani or an Indian, you indeed are  not worth 
>>    to be born in the  great Indian Sub continent.
>> 
>>>Oh, and I almost forgot, dear (B)hangies and (CH)amaars, please carry on....
>>>You naughty, naughty little things....
>> 
>>    Wonder how some of my Pakistani brothers here tolerate guys like this.
>>    If this fellow made some remark against any community this way, in SCI 
>>    he would faced the music.  
>> 
>> 
>>>Best Regards,
>>>Sham(les)s Hasan.
>> 
>> -Indu.
>> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
>> |  My  views expressed above are made on a PERSONAL basis              |
>> |  No Group or  Organization   can be held responsible                 |
>> |                                ( for those in quest of truth .......)|
>> |  [I'm neither a Bhangi, nor a Chamar nor belong to Red light areas   |
>> |   I oppose hipocrites like this  fellow]                             |
>> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
>>
>
>
>
>   Dear Indu:
>
>  There are many frogs in a poond (a la cesspool) where frogs croak. While
>  Ms.Merchant can always deserve kudos for her rational viewpoint, it is out
>  of her own interest that she (RM) should remind her "brother in Islam"
>  the great Moron Incarnate (Mustafa Ibrahim) - what decency is all about.
>  It will be just some time to see how things work from her side.
>
>  Regarding Shams Hasan, I think that you are wasting your time. This is the
>  hypocrite (available only in Pakistan - though rare) species. This "noble"
>  soul is actually racist (as you have observed) and did openly express his
>  desire to "... CASTRATE THE HINDOOS .... ". Everyone knows this - who have
>  read the SCP frequently. Therefore puking from such hypocrites is just 
>  reminder that beggars/ ragpickers like Shams Hasan exhibit their own
>  family values by calling others chamaars/ bhangis etc. and etc. He is quite
>  a "decent" and a "honnest guy" - as he claims. He claims to be a Musaalman - 
>  while he has embraced the American culture - proudly and isotropically 
>  shouting at all others   " I was *once* a Pakistani citizen ".  You know
>  what he does: he calls his American friends (who are quite naive about
>  situations outside U.S - in general), and, shows them the selected postings
>  from SCP/ SCI particularly the ones that could be unpleasant - to show
>  that some single person represents India - which is not true anyways. This
>  is probably the way he (Shams) makes a living.
>
>  Thus, don't ever bother to respond to idiots like Shams Hasan and let him
>  hang loose from the Caboose.
>
>     - regards,
>
>      deb chatterjee
>   (a good samaritan)
>
>  P.S: If you walk nearby a cesspool, you might find tadpoles there - that are
>       of Shams Hasan resemblance.

Dear Indu,

U B Pakistani ? I B Surprised !

I know U no Bhangi/Chamaar, but Pakistani ??

Best Regards,
Shams Hasan.


Dear deb(uttante) chatter jee,

Bhangi #2 speaketh. My lord, what maketh such tidings cometh. 
Such miracles from yonder, how he chatters on................

Best Regards,
Shams Hasan.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan