HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: A nagging question
Date: 4 Oct 1992 20:38:51 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Oct4.044734.5725@midway.uchicago.edu> pmm7@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
->In article <1992Sep24.015948.21312@leland.Stanford.EDU> mlloyd@westmark.Stanford.EDU (Mike Lloyd) writes:

->
->...and reels with the shock that someone with the first
->symptom of being THE PERFECT MAN has just revealed himself
->on the net....

Oh, yes, Mike's been around for quite a long time :) ... And some of us
already know that ... 

->my mother would be so happy... "a man?!"
->
->peg
->-it's ok, b, he lives *far* *away*...

Err, I'm really sorry to do this to you, Peg ... but I'd be careful ...

When I got to know Mike (during the Two Weeks of Confusion), it was "Gee,
he's a really nice guy, and I'll never get to meet him because he's in
Ireland" kinda thing ... Then there was "Gee, he's in SF for a weekend, and
I'll get to meet him once."  Now it's something along the lines of "Gee, he
comes around rather often (relatively speaking)"

In short, Peg, _nobody's_ safe from Mike.

Thank God ...


-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Roy S. Rapoport         rsr@soda.berkeley.edu          bi-bdsm@ocf.berkeley.edu
          I'm not gay but my boyfriend ... err, actually he's bi also.
DISCLAIMER:  "I meant every word of it ... but nobody else did."
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: orc@amber.uchicago.edu (David Parsons)
Subject: Re: What is a TOCOTOX?
Organization: Ministry of Skritching
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 22:58:50 GMT

In article <27760.9209270827@zen.sys.uea.ac.uk> jrk@information-systems.east-anglia.ac.uk (Richard Kennaway) writes:
|I keep seeing this abbreviation here.  What does it mean?  Sounds like
|a clockwork doll, but that can't be it, can it?

   It means (To)o (co)mplicated (to) e(x)plain,  and we use to to refer
to someone you're involved in a waytoofuckingcomplicated relationship
with.  (Compare this to a polyamourous - or topologically confusing -
relationship, which can, but doesn't necessarily, contain a TOCOTOX or
many.)

   Remember, though, that the relationship doesn't have to be confusing
to you - just the person you want to explain it to.

                 ____
   david parsons \bi/ But topologically confusing has that certain ring
		  \/  to it....
From: crj10@phx.cam.ac.uk (Clive Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: soc.bi
Date: 27 Sep 92 03:07:37 GMT
Organization: 6am Digital Playground
Address: Christ's College, Cambridge CB2 3BU, ENGLAND.
X-Furry-Character: Gerald_Duck
Telephone-messages: +44 223 33 4900

In article <1992Sep24.083736.9007@vax.oxford.ac.uk> cen@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>RFD: alt.bi.fluffy

Do this properly, or UKnet censors might block it! Let's have
SOC.bi.fluffy, please!

This isn't actually such a silly idea - honest. A charter along the
lines of "friendly, non-acrimonious, mutually-endearing and otherwise
'fluffy' forum for discussion between bisexuals" would do nicely.

--Clive.
From: crj10@phx.cam.ac.uk (Clive Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Some fears and doubts about my sexuality
Date: 4 Oct 92 15:41:37 GMT
Organization: 6am Digital Playground
Telephone-Messages: +44 223 33 4900
Address: Christ's College, Cambridge CB2 3BU, ENGLAND.
X-Furry-Character: Gerald_Duck

In article <1992Oct2.211754.24626@leland.Stanford.EDU> mlloyd@westmark.Stanford.EDU (Mike Lloyd) writes:
>SA121@phx.cam.ac.uk (Arrowsmith) writes:
>: Honestly, all the egos around here thinking I was talking about them!
>: No, you weren't one of the two I thought of, and neither was Mike, ...
>
><cough, splutter>  Mike never claimed you *were* talking about him,
>thankyou very much!

Careful - there are TWO Mikes on soc.bi now, and the other one *did*
claim that SA121 was talking about him! (-8

--Clive.
From: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Wow
Date: 26 Sep 92 08:47:46 GMT
Reply-To: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Followup-To: soc.bi
Organization: Ministry of Silly Walks
Originator: lunde@casbah.acns.nwu.edu

In article <1992Sep25.225219.6093@u.washington.edu> 
 jwad@milton.u.washington.edu writes:
>In article <19uk2iINN2tj@agate.berkeley.edu> rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S.  
>Rapoport) writes:
>> And we hugged ...
>Hugs are the best. 
>> Yes, to 99.999% of you, hugs are probably not a big thing.  They are to me
>> .... 
>make that 98.999% cause, at least for me, hugs are incredible and I've been  
>getting quite a few lately :) Actually, until very recently I wasn't getting 
>my daily dose of hugs and they really do make a difference.

I would also like to put in a word on behalf of hugs ... speaking as one
who has been known to go through serious bouts of hug withdrawal ...
I'm not adverse to combining sexuality with sensuality, but at the
same time I feel like I need human contact more than sex as such.

I have tried to fit this into my regular routine -- for example, I go to 
a church where hugs are part of the regular sunday ritual.

(This likely has something to do with my family -- my parents didn't
start hugging me regularly until they both had been in the hospital with
life-threatening illnesses.)

It's hard to get people to take seriously both the hugable cuddly side
and the lustful sexual side to my personality -- not that I'm especially
good at sorting things out -- I want to offer people what they want
and I don't want to deny one or the other, but it's a lot easier to
get people to focus on one or the other.

Perhaps this is also related to a tendency to be either rather shy
or rather blatent...

-- 
 Albert Lunde         | Interfaith  |     *Y*Y*      "A branch on the
 Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu |  Bisexual   |      *Y*        tree of life"
 alunde@nuacvm.bitnet |  Feminist   |.......|.........................
From: SA121@phx.cam.ac.uk (Arrowsmith)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Where are the bisexuals?
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:27:36 GMT
Organization: Surrealists against Lobsters

In article <1992Oct4.155359.16774@infodev.cam.ac.uk> crj10@phx.cam.ac.uk (Clive Jones) writes:
>In article <1992Oct4.133147.11002@news.acns.nwu.edu> Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde) writes:
>>I'm like to pursue the question of what are the "natural habitats"
>>of bisexuals in today's society -- spaces that are bi-friendly or
>>tolerant enough to encourage bis to be visible.
>[...]
>>
>> - Sci-fi fandom
>
>Certainly. Around Cambridge, people have almost resorted to coming out
>as heterosexual in science fiction circles. (-8
>
People *have* "come out" as being straight -- it's certainly often the
case that they point it out because they feel in the minority.  I didn't
really notice the situation before my other ex- and I started PDAing, so
I don't know if I/we had any influence on the local bunch.  Fandom in
general is rather relaxed about this -- although I only went to one con
while attached (this is more a reflection on the length of relationship
than frequency of con-going 8-( ) and that was without SO, so I've not 
personally tested the water, as it were.  Of the con committe I'm a
member of at the moment, I would guess between 25% and 75% of the eight-
strong team are bisexual....

>Cambridge generally is quite open-minded about such things. I tend to
>feel safe telling anyone, whether peers or superiors, about my
>sexuality - anyone openly opposed to homo/bi-sexuality is likely to
>have a harder time of it than someone who's out. I'm not *quite* sure
>why that's the case.
>
The graduates handbook, in the one-page article on being queer in the
University, says much the same thing -- that homophobia is very much
looked down upon.  With my usual caution and timidity, it is again not
something I've a great deal of personal experience of (he says, sitting
in a public terminal room wearing a "Bi-sexy" sticker).

--
\S
SA121@phx.cam.ac.uk   | There's nowt |"And in this moment, I need to be needed
sarrowsm@nyx.cs.du.edu| so queer as  |"When my self-esteem is sinking,
                      | folk....     |"I like to be liked" -- Peter Gabriel
From: fishnets@soulsteppin.Corp.Sun.COM (Spanky)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: My first Triangle
Date: 28 Sep 1992 15:43:50 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: fishnets@soulsteppin.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: soulsteppin.corp.sun.com


While people-watching and window shopping on Telegraph Ave. in
Berkeley, I decided to by a pin.  Not your average, everyday
pin, but a bigpinktriangle pin.  When I pinned it on my breast pocket, 
I felt like I had been released almost, or liberated.  

Maybe it was just me, but I've never seen so many smiles, winks
and lusty women ;^)

Hugs,

Emily
From: baltman@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Brian Altman)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Yay!
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:32:36 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

Isn't there a difference of facial hair/stubble between men and women
that significantly effects the kissing experience?

-Brian
From: jclark@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (John Clark)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Where are the bisexuals?
Date: 6 Oct 92 01:28:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.39057
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <LIZ.92Oct5132505@kropotkin.gnu.ai.mit.edu> liz@kropotkin.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Liz Highleyman) writes:
+gender or think of it in such an either/or way.  Also, the sexuality
+of a TS/TG doesn't fit traditional categories: if a person with a
+male body and a female psyche is attracted to women, are they gay
+or straight?

It doesn't matter as long as they look fabulous.
-- 

John Clark
jclark@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver)
Subject: Re: Socratic silliness (was Re: Multiple Orientations?)
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 22:47:14 GMT

orc@amber.uchicago.edu (David Parsons) writes:

>   There's standing up and standing up.  Sometimes it *is appropriate to
>bow out of the fray, back off, then come back into the battle at a different
>time and place.  In the case of this particular philosopher, one would think
>that he could bugger out of Athens and bide his time in some provincial town
>while continuing to do the exact same stuff he was doing before, and annoying
>the Evil City Government in the same way, but without having his tuckus in
>the same sort of mortal danger.

Gideon (still a guest on Tanaqui's account) replies:

Yes indeedy, only more so: Athens was just as much a "provincial town" as
most other Greek cities.  Also, S. wasn't up against the ammassed might of 
an institutionalised State; as a citizen, he was as much a part of the city 
govt. as was any member of the conservative clique who were pressing charges
against him (there was no State prosecution system).  So, yes, from a common
sense p.o.v. his choice wasn't too smart.  (From a philosophical p.o.v. it
ain't brilliant either.)


Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid)
Subject: Re: Socratic silliness (was Re: Multiple Orientations?)
Organization: Eris's Restaurant
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:36:42 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.063024.5478@leland.Stanford.EDU> mlloyd@westmark.Stanford.EDU (Mike Lloyd) writes:
>And what I particularly resent is that echo of a Latin phrase I
>dimly remember and will probably butcher, along the lines of
>"dulcia et decorum est, pro patria mori".  The correct 
>consonants have slipped away (Colin? Help?)

'fraid it's only the pseudo-Colin here, but linguam Latinam habeo, so:

  "Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori"
  (It is sweet and fitting to die for one's fatherland)

Wilfred Owen, I think; or perhaps Siegfried Sassoon.  One of those First
World War soldier-poet chappies, anyway.

For no good reason, it's just occurred to me how fortunate it is that
"England" is a disyllable: otherwise we might have been treated to

	If I should die, think only this of me;
	That there's a corner of some foreign field
	That is forever the Gilbert and Ellis Islands.


		"And are there Twinkies still for tea?"
		Kay
-- 
6'2", dark short hair, blue eyes, bisexual and horny as ....
Kay Dekker, Dept of Industrial Design, Coventry University, Coventry UK
37 Old Winnings Road, Keresley Village, Coventry   |B0 f t+ g++ k++! s+ e r p!
Phone: +44 203 838668 (work) +44 203 337865 (home) |Deflowerer-of-innocents
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: rhialto@falu.sneakernet (Olaf Seibert)
Subject: Re: Homosexuality/Bisexuality
Organization: Olaf's Own Amiga
X-Newsreader: Ann 0.8m
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 03:00:06 GMT

[note crossposting removed]

In article <1992Sep28.010158.13555@news.stolaf.edu>,
	hookom@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Jeffrey J Hookom) writes:
>	My name is Jef Hookom.	I am an undergraduate
>student studying Fine Arts and Asian Studies at St. Olaf
>College in Northfield, MN.  Among other activities, I
>am involved in OLGA, the Olaf Lesbian, Bisexual and Gay
			  ^^^^
>Alliance here on the hill.

Now how come I don't know anything about this?

>				-Jef
-Olaf
--
___ Olaf 'Rhialto' Seibert  B4f+-t-w--g+k+(+)svmrp+
\X/   It'sneveragoodideatoarriveinthepastwithyourpantsaroundyourknees -Sam
From: crj10@phx.cam.ac.uk (Clive Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Some fears and doubts about my sexuality
Date: 30 Sep 92 01:07:59 GMT
Organization: 6am Digital Playground
Telephone-Messages: +44 223 33 4900
Address: Christ's College, Cambridge CB2 3BU, ENGLAND.
X-Furry-Character: Gerald_Duck

In article <1992Sep29.172101.34697@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk> SA121@phx.cam.ac.uk (Arrowsmith) writes:
>                                      Why is the only ABBA fan I know
>determinedly straight, much to the annoyance of at least two people I
>know?

Not true! I am *not* annoyed by it, just intrigued.
Or was I not one of the 'at least two'? (-8

--Clive.
From: muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Yay!
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:10:51
Organization: Natural Language Incorporated
	<1992Sep25.035941.16132@u.washington.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: wadlow@bela.music.washington.edu's message of 25 Sep 92 03:59:41 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.035941.16132@u.washington.edu> wadlow@bela.music.washington.edu (John Wadlow) writes:
>In article <1992Sep24.062950.2717@latcs1.lat.oz.au> woodhous@latcs2.lat.oz.au  
>(Joe P Woodhouse) writes:
>>> I had my first serious male kiss last week. [grin]
>>> It was heaps of fun. And I'm still struggling to capture the difference
>> between kissing males & females.
>[...]
>Actually, is there a difference?  I mean basically the mouth is the same  
>for both genders.  Isn't it?  Well, I'll take a kiss no mater what.  I'm  
>learning to like kissing.  (haven't done much of that, yet)

I love kissing...*smile*.  Mouths vary by individuals; I haven't noticed
any gender-related differences.  However, the bodies *are* usually
different, and when I kiss, I don't just touch the lips, I touch as much
as I can...*smile*.  The biggest difference for me is how much *smaller*
some women feel - I was involved with a woman about my size (I'm pretty
skinny) and she felt *tiny*.  Also, breasts squishing against breasts
is different from breasts squishing against flat chests...I don't know
if this is noticeable for men...*smile*.

Muffy


--

Muffy Barkocy                               muffy@mica.berkeley.edu
~Little round planet/in a big universe/sometimes it looks blessed/
 sometimes it looks cursed/Depends on what you look at, obviously/
 But even more it depends on the way that you see~ - Bruce Cockburn
From: bbooth@x400gate.bnr.ca (Brad Booth)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Ottawa Soc.bi dinner on Sunday
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:25:47 GMT
Reply-To: bbooth@x400gate.bnr.ca (Brad Booth)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd, Ottawa
Originator: bbooth@bcrks6


Nigel Burnett wrote:
> How many people did show up?

6 all total.  Diane, Elizabeth (/), Dave, Michel (sp?), Anthony (??) and moi.

> We want a full report of all flirting and
> pictures - we want photos of everybody in Ottawa. :)} - just being silly.

Photos of everybody in Ottawa!!  My goodness, that would require a few
thousand rolls of film. ;)  Actually, we've all pretty much spent the
last couple of days recovering from the experience... just too much to
legally describe on the net. ;)

> Really, hope everybody had a great time and I hope somebody posts something
> about it.

I thought it was fun... and I thought I did post something about it...
yes, I'm sure I did. :)


    __o     Brad Booth              | "If somebody feels really good
  _`\<,_    Bell-Northern Research  |  about who they are, they don't
 (*)/ (*)   Ottawa, Ontario, Canada |  feel threatened by what other
----------  bbooth@x400gate.bnr.ca  |  people are." - Dr. M. Rubenstein
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: orc@amber.uchicago.edu (David Parsons)
Subject: Re: Some fears and doubts about my sexuality
Organization: Ministry of Skritching
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 23:59:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.211957.17018@news.columbia.edu> jsb16@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jennifer S Broekman) writes:
|In article <1992Sep26.070407.15182@midway.uchicago.edu> 
|orc@pell.chi.il.us writes:
|>In article <25xqb6xv@cck.coventry.ac.uk> 
| idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid) writes:
|>|In article <1992Sep23.052007.13368@midway.uchicago.edu> 
|  orc@sybase.com (David Parsons) writes:
|>|>Dating sucks dead bunnies through a straw.)
|>|What's so ukky about dating?
|
|>   Everything.  And *Everything.  (I could write a book, but then I'd
|>be in a very bad mood....)
[Orcish disapproval of dating deleted]

|I dunno... I can see myself 'dating' a woman from within my current motos
|relationship. And IMNSBE (in my not-so-broad experience), seeing a motos can
|be as easy as sticking one's tongue (and just what can you *do* with that
|tongue, he said.....) or being hungry enough to beg for macaroni and cheese.

  Different people, different experiences.  I agree, it can be simple
to see a motos - I've seen, in a distressingly platonic fashion, various
women over the years, all via the mechanism of dating. There's seems to
be a lot of preparation involved, and a lot of wondering about what will
happen, and a wee bit more than the RDA of stress.  I've never _formally_
dated a man, but I've _seen_ a few of them, and, even in the instances
where I didn't experimentally verify my bisexuality (grin), came nowhere
near the RDA of stress.  (Recently, I've seen a few women, and had the
opportunity to experimentally verify my bisexuality with them, without
going through the business of dating.  Much less stressful, just like
it is with men.)


  It's amazingly icky, IMO.
                ____
  david parsons \bi/ The man with no email address.
		 \/
From: jclark@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (John Clark)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: chocolate = sex
Date: 29 Sep 92 08:31:17 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Sep27.203155.1185@bcrka451.bnr.ca> bbooth@x400gate.bnr.ca (Brad Booth) writes:
+> 
+> Hey, Brad!  Can I have sex with you?!?!?!?  Can I, can I, huh, huh, huh???
+
+Sure, I'm always willing to share. :)
+
+Hmmm, maybe I should hurry and buy a crate of the stuff before a crowd
+starts pounding on my door. ;) *chuckle*

Candyman's got a stick 9 inches long,...
-- 

John Clark
jclark@ucsd.edu
From: Drakon@cup.portal.com (HARRY BENJAMIN GIBSON)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Yay!
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 01:39:47 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
  <1992Sep27.223408.10702@leland.Stanford.EDU>

I disagree with the last post. (Damn reader won't let me include)

I don't sense that the primary difference is olfactory, It is textile.
I notice a man feels different than a woman, The musclature is different,
the skin is different, (again not talking about stubble)

Of course it may be because I am looking at things differently than others
are. Kind of like those blind guys from Hindustan who find an Elephant.

Ben Gibson (who is trying to figure out how they got bananas and grapefruits
to grow on the same tree:)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: h431@quads.uchicago.edu (heather e blair)
Subject: being "in love"
Reply-To: h431@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:03:04 GMT

A friend of mine (bi female with a girlfriend) just came out to her 
mother, and her ma is in the "denial" phase: "you're too young to know
[your sexual orientation]", "can't you [and your lover] say you're
just friends", "why does sexuality have to enter into it?".

I got weaker versions of the same treatment from my mother when I came
out to her, and what I found helpful was describing my subjective
state of being "in love" with another woman.  After much talking, my
mother seemed to understand, I think because the concept of being in
love was familiar to her, even if she had never felt erotic love for a
another woman, she had felt it for somebody.

On the other hand, I had a brief flame-war on a local newsgroup, with
a man who was vaguely and patronizingly homophobic.  I attacked him saying
"has it never occured to you that somebody might be gay because they're
IN LOVE with somebody of the same sex?"  He then replied that he didn't
see how this alleged love could compare to the "simple love" he felt for
his wife and son.  And that made me think, has this married man never
experienced erotic love?  Why would he call his love for his wife "simple"
and utter it in the same breath as his love for his son?

Anyway, what I want to ask you net.people is whether you think that their
are people who have never experienced erotic love for anybody, same or
opposite sex?  The reason I ask is not to say that people who have never
experienced it are "wrong", "sick", or "bad" - but just out of my own
bafflement.  I know that I came out to myself as bi after acknowledging that
I had been in love with both men and women.  If it had only been one or
the other I'd have called myself something else.

And do you think the invocation of "love" is a good or bad technique for
convincing the sceptical straight-person?
  
-- 

- Heather Blair       h431@midway.uchicago.edu
From: pclary@mushroom.csc.calpoly.edu (Ellen Clary)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: whatever . . .
Date: 28 Sep 92 03:23:00 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo, CA - aka Barnum & Bailey

haynes@fivenine.apple.com (Charles Haynes) wrote...
>In article <iw.716751046@tosser> iw@tosser.Rational.COM (Sults) writes:
>>h431@quads.uchicago.edu (heather e blair) writes:
>
>>> ..... But we are.  Maybe the correct
>>>response to sexual harassment is to challenge the harasser to a duel.
>>>Choose your weapon!
>
>>Currently I go for this response: Duel of the dicks!
>
>>I can accessorize with a dick which is bigger, prettier, comes in colours
>>to match my outfits, and comes in number of different shapes.  Plus I get
>>to take it off and stick it in a drawer, when I might be tempted towards
>>assholeishness.
>
>>And we all know that I will win hands down, (dicks up) or at least
>>those of us who frequent toy stores know.
>
>Don't be so sure dear. Last sunday I was wearing a fabulous lavender "Jupiter
>IV" which matched my skirt and socks oh-so-well.

Yes you looked absolutely smashing, especially when you tucked
the skirt up on the Jupiter IV.  (He wasn't wearing a shirt either.)

>It was pretty funny. I don't usually get to stand next to a cute dyke, put
>my hands on my hips, and say "Mine's bigger!"

He's not joking, this toy is well... huge.  And it's the _second_
largest of the line - makes me whince to think about it.

>Ah, the joys of San Francisco and the Folsom Street Fair.

Yes indeed.  Did you know that in the Guardian's (a weekly entertainment
guide and newspaper) reader's poll, Good Vibrations (where the lovely
lavender Jupiter IV came from) nearly won Best Toy Store?  I think I'm 
going to like it here.

Ellen
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