HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: nev@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (nancy.e.ellard-vass)
Subject: Re: For visitors to Moscow - offer
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:41:35 GMT

In article <ADg0Cdgem6@smena.russia.msk.su>,  SV@smena.russia.msk.su (S.V.Vasiliev) writes:
> Hello, netters,
> 
> If you are going to visit Moscow and to accommodate and spend your time
> quaranteed cheap and interesting - our information is for you.
> 
> The hotel 'Russia' is one the central hotels in Moscow. We propose you the
> 2-rooms appartment at the 6 floor. Windows at Red Square and Kremlin: the
> better view you could ever imagine!
> 
> It is our constant appartment but during summer it will be empty and you can
> use it. That's why it will cost $70 cash only instead of $150 per day common
> price (this price - till September). That's is very suitable for couples.

Hey! isn't this the 10th time you have posted this? Posting once or twice
is clearly enough. Also, how kind of you to charge only $70 per night 
cash (I assume you want those US $$$) when the average weekly or monthly Russian salary is less than that.

Maybe for $5 US a day I would think about it, otherwise, post your message
about 10 times somewhere else!!

Nancy

some other way.
From: rbs@uk.ac.ed.aisb (Robert Scott)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: London Zoo
Date: 1 Sep 92 14:07:48 GMT
Reply-To: rbs@aisb.ed.ac.uk
Organization: Dept AI, Edinburgh University, Scotland


In article <1992Aug31.141843.1505@Princeton.EDU> q0239@whereis.Princeton.EDU (Peter A. Olenick) writes:

   We will be taking our first visit to London in September.   One of the
   places we were looking forward to visiting was the London Zoo.  I hear
   the zoo is about to close.  Can some one confirm this.

This is true.
The Zoo is not Government run but is run by a zoological society.
The society has run out of money to keep the zoo open and so is attempting
to close it.
It was meant to close recently but some anonymous donation has saved it for
a few more months.



--
Rob Scott
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University of Edinburgh         FAX: 031-226-2730
80 South Bridge               email: rbs@aisb.ed.ac.uk
EDINBURGH
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From: tjfeue@bb1t.monsanto.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Loud irritating obtrusive American tourists.
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:25:55 CST
Organization: Monsanto Company, St. Louis, MO

Well I don't think that USAns are all *THAT* bad, how about those Aussies?
The're almost as bad as the Swiss...  Well, except for the Brazilians...
God, are they something...  But Jeeze, how about the Mexicans!  Man, now 
nobody's worse than them... Well except, maybe the French... Yeah, the 
French! *WHAT* an attitude...  Um gee, speaking of attitude, I really 
did forget about the Germans...  Now *THERE'S* some attitude!  Uh, damn,
actually the Russians and all their former republics, *GOD* are they
miserable to be around...  Well, speaking of miserable *AND* disgusting,
that one *HAS* to go to the Italians...  You *KNOW* how *THEY* are! 
Then again though, the *MOST* miserable and disgusting have *GOT* to be
the Israelis...  Sheesh, get one of them in the same room as an Arab,
and look out!  Talk about loud?  Well, speaking about loud, how about
those Irish!  Hide the whiskey when you see one of them comming.  Gee,
speaking of drinking, have you *SEEN* a Japanese person drunk?  God
what a mess...  And *THEN* they've just *GOT* to whip out the old 
Nikon and start taking a picture of everything in sight!  Ok, ok, 
they can't possibly hold a *CANDLE* to the South Africans, whining
about this and that...  Of course, there are worst whiners.  Take the
Brit's for example!  If they don't get their tea and crumpets, shit,
run for your lives.  Oh, speaking of running for your lives?  If you
see a Korean comming your way... jeeze are you in trouble...  Um,
actually, you really do need to avoid those New Zealanders!  Boy do
they get ticked off when you ask them if they are Aussies!  How are 
we supposed to know...    

'nuff said?     ;-)  <---------------  For the Humor Impaired.

  TED FEUERBACH   Scientific Systems Consultant  Trilogy Consulting, Inc. 
  Lake St. Louis, MO        (314) 537-6603       tjfeue@bb1t.monsanto.com
  Disclaimer:  The opinions expressed herein are MY OWN and obviously not
  the opinions of Trilogy, Monsanto or either of my two ex-wives.           
  
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.usa
From: lpj@col.hp.com (Laura Johnson)
Subject: Re: Loud irritating obtrusive American tourists.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:58:56 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

frank2@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za (FRANK D N) writes:
> It has been my experience when travelling abroad that the majority 
> of American tourists are loud, obtrusive and selfish. 

"Majority" is hard to judge, isn't it? It seems likely that the loud,
obtrusive ones are much more noticeable; the majority of tourists
might be quiet and unobtrusive, therefore you only notice the loud
ones!

-- 
Laura Johnson
lpj@hpctdls.col.hp.com
Opinions expressed are my own, but may be licensed for a nominal fee.
From: smezias@wissel.GBA.NYU.EDU (Stephen J. Mezias)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Munich, Germany and Salzburg, Austria information wanted.
Date: 3 Sep 92 21:33:31 GMT
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business

My wife, son, and I are taking advantage of the super low fares to
visit a friend in Slovenia.  The nearest cheap gateway is Munich.  We
can get rail transportation allowing a stopover in Salzburg, Austria.
Several questions for which we request the help of netters in
gathering answers: (1) What will weather be like in March compared to
NYC?  (2) How many days should we spend in Salzburg?  What should we
see?  Hotel and restaurant recommendations would be much appreciated.
(3) How many days in Munich?  What should we see?  Hotel and
restaurant recommendations would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
SJM

PS Email or posted responses ok.  Will summarize if any is interested.
From: U15310@uicvm.uic.edu (Tom Ascher)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: HELP - TRAVEL NEWSLETTERS
Date: 1 Sep 92 14:43:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: uicvm.92245.094341U15310
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

Does anyone have a list of travel newsletters they can send me,
including the one published by Consumers Report?  I recall one of
the financial magazines publishing such a list some months ago, but
can't remember where!  Thanks.
From: fishkin@aludra.usc.edu (Stephanie Fishkin)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Cancelled Reservation Disputes (was HoJo)
Date: 31 Aug 1992 17:53:32 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <1992Aug31.082435.8487@ads.com> henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch) writes:
>
>you use a travel agent.  travel agents know what to expect from small
>b&b operations, and they know how to protect you best (and it's in
>their interest to do so: if they don't, you won't come back).  


Yes, but isn't it in their interest to find places that will also satisfy their
need for commissions?  Suppose one is looking for budget hotels (as was my
case;  HoJo happened to be running a discounted room special, as was the
hotel I ended up staying in) or a hotel that isn't listed in the standard
books they have?  This also assumes that one has access to a good travel
agent.


SF in SoCal
(My jadedness, as seen in the above comments, comes from having dealt w/
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.scuba,rec.travel.air
From: pkap@panix.com (Peter Kapner)
Subject: Re: Florida
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:09:00 GMT
Distribution: us
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <1992Aug26.040136.24745@scifi.uucp> njs@scifi.uucp (Nicholas J. Simicich) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.030833.12046@panix.com> pkap@panix.com (Peter Kapner) writes:

>>I'm supposed to be going to the Keys a week from Thursday, and after
>>the devastation I've heard about and seen on TV I just can't believe
>>that things will be functioning even close to normally.  People's
>>homes were utterly flattened and uprooted and the exodus of over a
>>million people to the north can't be easily recovered from I'm sure.
>
>I called my relatives in Hollywood, Florida, and they answered the
>phone, proving that at least Southern Bell was working a few miles
>away, and so forth.  Rumors are that the Keys were spared:  Key Largo
>was collecting supplies to send to Homestead.

I managed to get through to my hotel in Key West, a dive operator I'm
supposed to use in Marathon, and the dive operator I'm supposed to use
in Key Largo.  In Key Largo, things aren't so terrible except that
they're without power for the indefinite future.  In Marathon they had
electricity but said that it comes and goes.  All the power is being
generated on the Keys and it's going to the most important uses first.
They are trying to get as many dives as possible going though.  In Key
West they said that things are just fine, everyone's having a good
time, and come on down life is great.


>power.  Even with no significant damage it may take several days to
>get electricity back, since tI think that they have to visually check
>all of the power lines in an area before powering up again.  And
>stores/gas stations won't open without power to work refrigeration or
>gas pumps.

Everyone I've talked to says several weeks.


-- 
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Peter Kapner
pkap@panix.com
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Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.usa
From: alto@pegasus.com (Andrea Ostensoe)
Subject: Re: Loud irritating obtrusive American tourists.
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 19:47:20 GMT

In article <robinson.36@odie.ee.wits.ac.za> robinson@odie.ee.wits.ac.za (Michael Robinson) writes:
>>--
>>David Frank       <frank2@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za>
>>University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg
>
>Dear David
>
>How can you write such utter drivel in this group.  I have travelled 
>extensivly in Europe and Africa and have found that the most considerate and 
>well meaning tourists are those from dear ol' USA.  They all have an 
>extensive knowledge, not only of the travel spots, but also the local 
>culture, politics and society.  This knowledge they happily share with other 
>tourists, to the point of making local guides obsolete.
>
>American tourists are fun to be with and are great party-goers.  Just 
>because you have had a bad experience does not mean you have any right to 
>generalise in this way.
>
>Please retract your observations and apologise.
>
>Yours,
>Michael Robinson
>Robinson@odie.ee.wits.ac.za

Living in a tourist city that gets visitors from *all* over the world
*all* the time..I have to say the only really loud obnoxious group I've 
observed have been Germans..I think it may only be thier language which
tends to sound loud...the american's..are fine and the Australians are
quite loud but not obnoxious..just full of high spirits..the Japanese
are very polite but ignore the environmental rules which is depressing.

My husband and I are planning an extensive month long tour of Europe
this fall and neither one of us could be considered loud or obnoxious.
It will be interesting to see if the loud, obnoxious people who stand
out in a crowd are americans or other nationalities.

It does seem to me that most of the world has fun American-bashing      

and, if that helps you to feel better about your own country..then
be our guest, we can take it.

-- 
**************************************************************************
"I don't ask for much..just your heart on a silver platter;-)"
						-Kali
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Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.usa,alt.flame
From: wales@cs.ucla.edu (Rich Wales)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Advice needed on I-80 (San Francisco to Detroit) in winter
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:29:41 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: UCLA CS Department, Los Angeles

My wife, baby girl, and I expect to be driving cross-country from San
Francisco to Toronto around New Year's.

What are the road conditions typically like on I-80 (and I-94 through
Michigan) in early January?  Would we be better off adjusting our
schedule to make the trip a bit later?  (No real possibility of doing
it any earlier, I'm afraid.)

We'll be driving in an '84 Honda Accord in basically good mechanical
shape with fairly new all-weather, mud/snow rated tires.  (I assume I
should bring a set of chains, just in case.)  We won't be towing any-
thing, but we may use a roof-mounted luggage carrier.

Anyway, any comments on the weather (I hear it may be a bit colder this
winter than usual?), road conditions, special preparations we should
make for the trip, etc., would be welcomed.

--
Rich Wales <wales@CS.UCLA.EDU> // UCLA Computer Science Department
3531 Boelter Hall // Los Angeles, CA 90024-1596 // +1 (310) 825-5683
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: kjhart@pbhya.PacBell.COM (Kenny J. Hart)
Subject: Re: Day trips to Mexico from San Diego
Reply-To: kjhart@PacBell.COM (Kenny J. Hart)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:18:38 GMT

In article <37632@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> lerner@jeeves.ucsd.edu (David Lerner) writes:
>Hey netters,
>
>I know there's got to be lots of things to do and see on day trips to Mexico 
>from San Diego.  We're really not interested in being bait for beggers and cheap
>shops just across the border in Tijuana.  Does anyone know of interesting stuff
>south of Tijuana?  What about Ensenada?  Any suggestions?
>
>Thanks for the help
>
>David Lerner
>lerner@jeeves.ucsd.edu
>

Once you get thru TJ, stay on the toll road until you reach a little
town called Puerto Nuevo,  its on your right.  Go into any
one of the little restaurants there and eat LOBSTER!!  Its cheap
and good, then wash it down with cold Carta Blancas.

After that, go to Rosarito.  Drink the margaritas at the Rosarito
Beach Hotel.  Be careful, you'll get sauced on those puppies in no time!

On your way back to the border, you could stop in TJ on Avenida
Revolucion for a killer shrimp burrito at the Corona Bowl (I think
the bowling alley used to be UPSTAIRS).



-- 
  Kenny Hart               
  kjhart@pacbell.com      

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: rajeev@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (rajeev.dolas)
Subject: What are "you gotta do" things in/around San Diego 
Keywords: San Diego
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:31:03 GMT

Howdy all,
	
	I will be in San Diego in the 4th week of Sept with my wife. I will 
	be have 4 full days and 2 evenings (after business). I need to know
	what to do in or around SD? I am thinking of driving to Baja? How far
	is it from SD? I would prefer to do day trips.

	Thanks in advance.
	
	Raj Dolas
From: CHUAKIN@ems.cdc.com (King Chu)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: What to do and see in Hong Kong.
Date: 28 Aug 92 22:10:56 GMT
Organization: Empros

In article <donm.715031405@swanlake> Don Murray, donm@cs.UAlberta.CA
writes:
>But, of course, it is a risk :)

Temple Street (it has a nickname - "Night Club for the Poor") - A place
for authentic
                        chinese food, flake watches, palm reading.
Stanley Beach - A place that a lot of tourist enjoy going there. It looks
a big
                         fleet market with a lot of discount store for
clothes and oriental
                         gift.
Central District - A place that full of high rises by famous architect
(e.g. Central bank                
                             by I.M. Pui)
Ocean park - A place that most tourist enjoy. It consists of a amusement
park, a water
                     world, a sea world and a village decorate in 15 th
century style with
                      people making noodle and hand craft. 
Mongkok - a place for shopping Hi-Fi, camera, clothes, etc. It used to be
a economic
                place to go when I was young. But things may be different.
Golden Arcade in SamSheiPui - A place for computer and computer software.
Well,
                                                 they sell cheap things
because they are either a clone 
                                                 or a copy of the orginal
software with photocopy manual.


I have an advice for people who is going to Hong Kong. When you buy
things in place like
Temple street, remember to bargain with them. Don't be shy. It is fullof
fun to do it. 
Sometimes, merchant may double their price just because you are a
tourist. And
there are a lot of flake things (from clothes like Polo to watches like
Rolex) in temple
street. Quality varies. So be careful.
Xref: sparky rec.travel:12577 soc.culture.brazil:2203
From: petrescd@acf3.nyu.edu (Deivy Marck Petrescu)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.brazil
Subject: Re: Brazil travel question
Date: 29 Aug 92 15:30:12 GMT
Organization: New York University

bloom@ecfa.jsc.nasa.gov (Lynn Bloom) writes:

>Hi, I am posting this for a friend of mine. Please respond either here
>or by a direct e-mail to my account:


>	We have been thinking of going to Brazil; Have our visas, etc. and are
>	flying standby so we don't have to go there.  Due to the impeachment and
>	government problems, does someone know if it is safe to go there?
>	American news said there is fear of a military coup.
>	  Thanks.

May be they (the US papers) mean the marines are going to be sent there,
but since you have an US passport , I don't think there will be any
problem for you.
Remember Granada!

>--
>              Lynn Bloom                        LOCKHEED
>       bloom@hlpdsk.jsc.nasa.gov      Engineering & Sciences Company
>       bloom@hdaw2.jsc.nasa.gov          2400 NASA Rd 1, Houston,
>          (713) 333-7717                    TX 77058-3799
    Cordially
	Deivy
From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: *NEW* TRAVEL ADVISORY -- Bahamas
Date: 28 Aug 1992 09:04:05 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL ADVISORY - Bahamas
============================================================
Bahamas - Caution
 August 27, 1992

While the Bahamas were spared the brunt of Hurricane Andrew, the 
Department of State has authorized the voluntary departure of 
non-essential employees and dependents of U.S. government personnel 
from the Bahamas because of the potential for supply shortages and 
the disruption of essential services.

Commercial air travel from the Bahamas is heavily booked at this 
time.  Any U.S. citizens contemplating travel to or from the Bahamas 
should consider deferring that travel until they are able to confirm 
their travel and lodging arrangements.

U.S. citizens who are currently in the Bahamas should follow the 
instructions of local officials in the wake of the storm.

American citizen residents and tourists who wish to contact the 
U.S. Embassy in Nassau can reach the Embassy at the following 
number:  322-1181.

Xref: sparky rec.travel:12514 soc.culture.german:6097
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 07:51:22 +0100
From: ianf@random.se (Ian Feldman)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.german
Followup-To: rec.travel
X-Hear: Sally's (Meg Ryan's) fake diner orgasm now available as plug-in
X-This: charger sound for the Apple PowerBook; reason enough to buy one
Apparently-To: rnews@sunet.se
X-Mailer: Fernmail 1.2b2
Organization: random design -- "Opinions, cheaply"
Summary: '92 Euro HPVSC in Munich accomodation
Subject: need a place to stay in Munich September 11 -- 13th


  I will be attending the 1992 European Human Power Vehicles
  Speed Championships at the Regatta Lake in Munich in September
  (as an interested observer, not a competitor).  I would like
  to get in touch with local recumbentists and would gladly
  welcome an offer of accomodation for the three or so days
  of the races.  I'm an easy-going fellow, I think, except for 
  odd times when I get difficult, but it is then when it becomes
  really interesting ;-))


--Ian
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: kw@c3.PLA.CA.US (Kang Wang)
Subject: <<<Air Tickets Oakland=>Boston=>Oakland>>>
Organization: C-Cube Microsystems, San Jose, CA
Distribution: ca
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:34:24 GMT

Posted for a friend. Please do not reply to this account.

Three Northwest Airlines round trip tickets for sale:
$220.00 for each ticket
Oakland ===> Boston ===> Oakland

Departure: Oakland (Sept.  5, 7:00am) ===> Boston  (Sept.  5,  5:11pm)
Returning: Boston  (Sept. 12, 6:15am) ===> Oakland (Sept. 12, 11:20am)

One male ticket and two female tickets. You could buy either one, two, 
or three. Please call Patty at (415) 574-4000 ext. 4894 during work hours.
From: little@buckeye.nsc.com (Thomas E. Little)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Suggestions for Lake Tahoe/Reno area??
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:54:24 GMT
Organization: National Semiconductor Corporation

Myself and a few friends will be staying at Lake Tahoe for an extended
weekend.  Apart from the obvious gambling in Reno and other tourist
traps, does anyone (or everyone) have a favorite spot to visit??
Thanks in advance.  Quick replies appreciated.

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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: Lufthansa Airlines
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 23:45:33 GMT

johnson@ut-emx.uucp (Karen J. Morgan) wrote: 
->I am considering a trip to Munich from Houston, Texas, and would
->appreciate hearing of any personal experiences anyone has had with
->Lufthansa -- good, bad, or otherwise.  The trip would involve
->only one stop (Frankfurt) and a change of planes there.

lufthansa is one of the world's best airlines (imho) ... you'll do
well to fly with them.

->Since I don't normally subscribe to this group, it might be safer
->to respond to one of the addresses below.

obPetPeeve time: if you're going to take the time to post your
question to a newsgroup you should take the time to look for the damn
answers (as if you were the only person on the planet to have this
question).

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
Newsgroups: rec.travel