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From: ranma@pegasus.com (Doug Cha)
Subject: I've SEEN THE LIGHT!!  was Re: Streamline's Castle Cagliostro!  Just saw it..
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 09:16:50 GMT

In article <1992Dec24.080015.5830@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan P. Gavigan) writes:
>>>
>>>Lupin's voice a perfect match? You've got to be kidding... Or at least 
>>>you haven't had enough exposure to the original actor.  The fact he (english
>>>actor) didn't even understand the range of the original character actor 
>>>(probably didn't even bother watching it) doing Lupin didn't
>>>help things any.

	Some more comments on the Streamline deal AFTER watching the original
Castle of Cagliostro:

	1)  Gaver is right, the voice isn't the same.
	2)  Streamline has quite an annoying tendancy to change dialog
	    around for no apparent reason.  They also have a tendancy to
	    DELETE dialog at times.  (examples to follow:)

		a)  The Cagliostro boys are chasing the princess in the
		    beginning part of the movie and Jiken tries to shoot
		    their cars' tires.  His REAL reaction: "That's no
		    ordinary car!".  Macek-ized reaction: "That cars got
		    bullet proof tires!"
		b)  Jiken loses in the Jyan-ken-po game and has to fix
		    the flat tire.  His REAL reaction while walking is
		    "the spare is bald".  I don't think I remember him
		    saying anything in the Macek'erd version.

	   I know see the stupidy of Macek.  I have seen the light.  He
	   changes dialog for NO REASON.  It does nothing more than
	   irritate those who have seen the original!  The implications
	   are the same, but still..

>
>If you want the REAL Lupin voice, try all the films in which Yasuo Yamada
>does the voice (and is the only TRUE Lupin voice.).  Believe me, there is
>QUITE a difference.  Watch the original Castle Cagliostro, etc, and come 
>back again with your opinion.  I have a feeling it won't be quite the 
>same.

	Gaver-sensei..  I agree that the voice was quite different, but
I still think it was a good "adaptation" of Lupin's voice.  I don't
expect companies to go chasing around the world for a perfect Lupin III
voice match.  I say it was "good enough".

	Despite the stupidity of Streamline, I still say it was a well
done dubbing job.  I'll buy the LD (if it's under $40 and if it comes out).
>
-- 
 "I love the smell of napalm in the morning.  It smells like..  VICTORY."

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From: m0336@tnc.UUCP (Ralph Jenkins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Mecha in 'Beyond the Mind's Eye'
Date: 31 Dec 92 05:05:41 GMT
Reply-To: m0336@tnc.UUCP (Ralph Jenkins)
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


   Patlabor appears in 'Beyond the Mind's Eye', the computer graphics
compilation that proved extremely popular over the holiday season. 
Here are the credits for the Patlabor segment:
 
PATLABOR
PATLABOR
Produced by:
Studio Dews
 
Producer:
Takeshi Shimizu
 
Director:
Tadao Okada
 
Animators:
Hitsohi Masuda, Kozi Tanaka
 
 
  Then there is another Japanese animation of a racecar entitled:
 
ROBOTRY
 
Produced by:
Studio Dews
 
Producer:
Satoru Matumoto
 
Director:
Hitoshi Masuda
 
Art Director:
Tadao Odaka
 
Modeler:
Kozi Tanaka
 
(C)1992-90 Birthday
 
   I'm not sure if the 'Robotry' segment is from any anime in
particular, but since it seems to have the same creative team as the
Patlabor graphics, it seems likely.
 
   Then there are two other anime-inspired mecha segments, entitled
'Transformer' and 'Zykon', which are not Japanese.
 
   Anyway, I was surprised to see this, and I was also surprised no
one on the net had noticed yet (or if they did, they didn't mention
anything).  So check out 'Beyond the Mind's Eye' from BMG Video.
What's next?  The BGCrash! opener, or maybe some Lensman footage?
 
  -RJ

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From: daemon@vtserf.cc.vt.edu (Mr Background)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Zoner's Birthday (was: Megazone 23's Accusations)
Date: 28 Dec 92 04:22:00 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech (VPI & SU)






 In article <mumble> megazone@obsidian.WPI.EDU said to All :

 me> If you must know the stats I am Legally Brian David Bikowicz, born
 me> 12/26/70, SS# 057-56-0222... 6'6", ~300lbs, brown hair and eyes... I do
 me> not hide behind anything, and I resent that implication...

Happy Birthday belatedly, Zoner.. :)

 me> I think I'll go to Brian MegaZone Bikowicz.... or maybe MegaZone Brian
 me> Bikowicz so I can legally use it as my first name while retaining Brian
 me> Bikowicz as an id.... I've been using it for nearly 4 years now, if
 me> people don't like it, too bad... I planned to eventually go to
 me> MegaZone, period. I probably still will.... (It isn't just you, lately
 me> it seems everyone has decided to accuse me of hiding. If I put Randolf
 me> Carter in the name field no one would know the difference and no one
 me> would question it. But because it is an odd name it is obvious...)

You're right.  None of you really know whether my real name is Jason Low (it
is).. in fact, some of you might think my name is "Mr Background" as I have
heard that my mail is being altered to that name when it passes thru a local
university.

Anyway, enough off-topic stuff.. back to ranting.. :)

Ps. Solitude was great, waiting for UF4 anxiously.  What's its title again?..

:)

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From: Honey I Saved The Lemmings <ratinox@meceng.coe.northeastern.edu>
Subject: Re: Net.Party Announcement
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	<1hlnf1INN40u@bigboote.WPI.EDU>
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 03:23:07 GMT

>>>>> On 28 Dec 1992 02:06:25 GMT, megazone@obsidian.WPI.EDU (MegaZone23)
>>>>> said:

>What and where is this ARISIA thing?

Zoner> Boston Jan 15-17... Off the top of my head, the flyer is in
Zoner> Worcester....

Correct.

Zoner> Is it the Parx Plaza again this year? I forget...

Yes, the Park Plaza Hotel and Towers in downtown Boston.

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                                                     --Metallica, Enter Sandman
From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: LiveAction Guyver
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:15:22 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.091816.2292@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> z_beddoerj@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>In article <72520@cup.portal.com>, DrAllosaurus@cup.portal.com (Samuel DrAllosaurs Crider) writes:
>> Just watched the live action version of THE GUYVER...
>> 
>> Gee, maybe these dubbed anime aren't so bad afterall...
>> Isn't Jimmy Walker a violation of some sort of Federal law?
>> 
>> Dr. A
>
>UGH.  I agree.  They must have blown their whole wad on the "Guyver comes
>out and attaches itself" scene, and that was it.  Because the rest of the 
>stuff was major cheese.  If you think that Macek's Nadia is bad, give this
>a look-see and you'll be begging for the class and style of Bronx-voiced 
>Akira, and that wonderous dubbing job done on Macross II.  No joke.
>
>Lucasfilms *must* get off their collective asses and make more Star Wars
>movies.....Mark Hamill is in dire need of real work.  He's much, much more
>talented than this....
>
>*gag*  Someone stop the spread of the live-action Guyver before more are made
>sick!
>
>(yes, its really that bad!)
>(and not even any gratuitous nudity, either.  *sigh*)
>
>
>Ja ne,
>"Crusher" Joe.
>
Oh come on. This isn't an anime, this isn't even japanese. And I thought 
Hamill was much better in this than in ANY of the Star Wars films!
This was made by Americans. Specifically, Brian Yuzna, of Reanimator fame
<He produced the original and directed the sequel>. It is nowhere neat
as good as his "Society", but it is a fun way to spend 90 minutes.

Now, which version of the animated Guyver are you comparing it to?
The original, superior, more extreme version, or the toned down remake?
It comes off as not too bad compared to the remake, but it looks pretty
sick next to the original. As for nudity, when was the last time you
saw gratuitous nudity in a PG-13 film?
If that is all you want in entertainment, this is the wrong group.
It was cheesy, yes, but un-enjoyable? Not a chance.

<What opinions are here, are mine alone>
have a New Year!
Pax
					--Judex--

>  *-----------------------------------------------------------------------*
>  |  "Crusher" Joe Beddoe * President, Shampoo International Fan Club *   |
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>  |      Academic Support Guy, SFASU * Partner, Datamagic Computers       |
>  *-----------------------------*-----------------------------------------* 
>  | Hey!!  Mail me!  Pick one!! |          *  September 25, 1992  *       |
>  | z_beddoerj@ccsvax.sfasu.edu |"...all Good Things must come to an End."|
>  |  crusher@ccsnext.sfasu.edu  | I invite all Ranma fans to join me on   | 
>  |  crusher@calvin.sfasu.edu   | this day in mourning in memoriam of the |
>  | a_beddoerj@ccsvax.sfasu.edu |     passing of our favoritie show.      |
>  *-----------------------------------------------------------------------*
> 
>
From: currmann@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Curtis Hoffmann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Stuff
Date: 22 Dec 92 20:05:00 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.


   Well folks, I'm back in Minneapolis for the moment, and am no longer
posting under Hitoshi's address.  Brought back some anime cels with me, if
anyone is interested in that kind of thing.  Ask for the list in mail.

                   -- I leave you alone for a few minutes and what happens?
                      You end up on the menu.      -- Bugs Bunny

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From: coan@griffin.emba.uvm.edu.uvm.edu (Brian M Coan)
Subject: Project A-ko 2 and 3 ??!!
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Distribution: net
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 06:18:52 GMT

As I big fan of Project A-ko, I was pretty surprised to learn
that there are parts 2 and 3. Are these movie length? How do they
compare to the first one?

	coan@emba.uvm.edu

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From: ranma@pegasus.com (Doug Cha)
Subject: How the KOR final movie ruined my Christmas!  **SPOILERS**
Keywords: Orange,Road,Spoiler,Movie,Final 
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 13:14:41 GMT


	Christmas Eve is usually a time of celebration (and all that stuff)
but for me and a few friends, it was finally time to finish off the KOR
experience with the final movie.  I had lots of advice to watch ALL the
episodes & OAV's before the movie, and it was good advice at that..

Prelimary comments:
		
	1)  It was sad..  but for a guy like me who has totally lost his
		mind thinking about Ayukawa all day, it wasn't that bad.
	2)  Charactarization of Hikaru didn't seem to quite fit..  somehow
		I didn't imagine that type of reaction from her (Fatal
		Attraction type..)

I've always been pulling for Kyosuke to "get his act together with Madoka"
so I did like the movie in that respect..  I do wish that they had an
ending where Kyosuke and Madoka are a bit closer, perhaps holding hands
while walking to class together.
	BUT..  Then maybe it's because of "Japanese customs" that they do
not show their affection in holding hands or hugging in the public?  But
regardless of that, I wish they had some type of nice smutty kiss or hug
to end the movie.  Shoot me, I'm a romantic.

	Alternatively, I could have imagined a KOR movie where Hikaru
committed suicide.  NOW THAT would have ruined my Christmas.  The header
is a lie..  this didn't ruin my Christmas.. but it'll make me think for
a few days.

Peace!
	Orange Road rules!!  Don't ever let a Panda sway your vote!

-- 
 "I love the smell of napalm in the morning..  It smells like..  Victory.."

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From: tsait@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Theodore Leonard Tsai)
Subject: Re: Anybody get Robotech Perfect Collection Yet?!
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 23:21:14 GMT

In article <43007@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> tdinh@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Anime Addict) writes:
>So did anybody get a chance to pluck out some money to get the
>Robotech Perfect Collection Yet? I saw it at one of my local comic
>stores, but unfortunately, I have it ordered at ANOTHER one...oh
>well. 
>
>A short review would be appreciated...
>
>					Thien

Are you sure it was _Perfect_ Collection?  I haven't seen it ANYWHERE.
Personally, I think that Macek has underestimated the time and effort it takes
to subtitle something.  Did he really expect to subtitle 6 total episodes 
a month?  He wasn't even able to make the regular editions on schedule.
If we DO eventually see the first perfect collections coming out, they will
surely be interrupted later on.  Actually, I don't think Macek has EVER
subtitled anything.  Which makes it all the harder for him to 
make them on time.  

Macek bashing ON

If there was EVER any proof that Macek doesn't give a flying fig about
the fans, it's the way he's marketing the Robotech collections.  I was happy
to hear that he was subbing the episod for a special release, but 
then was quickly unhappy to hear that they were to be released as 2
dubbed + 2 subbed as opposed to 4 subbed per tape.  Idiocy.  I can't even 
see how he could BEGIN to defend this type of marketing.  To compare the
episodes?  Hey, if I wanted to compare the episodes, I'd only have to
buy the dubbed tape along with the subbed (if he were to release it as
4 subbed per tape).  It would cost the same amount for the same number
of episodes and on the same number of tapes.  But no, if I want to
have the complete subbed Macross, I have to buy 18 tapes as opposed to
9.  Plus, if I want to watch the shows in order in a sitting, I have
to fast forward to the subbed episodes every time I switch tapes.  
He's a certified jerk, plain and simple.  I refuse to support this.  I'd
like to see the subs very much, but I will not spend any of my money on 
it.  It's an inferior product.  I hope one person buys it and it gets 
sold over and over and over on the net so everybody who wants to can see it
but Macek gets one sale.  Heh, that'd be funny.  
Here's a what if situation:
WHAT IF STREAMLINE HAD MARKETED THE BGC LASERDISKS?
  BGC collection disk 1: English dubbed versionof episode 1 on side one.  
                        Spanish dubbed version side 2.
  BGC perfect disk 1: English subbed episode 1 side one
                      Spanish dubbed episode 1 side two
  BGC Mr. Rogers collection disk 1 : Mr. Rogers episode side one
                                     BGC subbed and in stereo side two
 and so it goes...


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From: jkhassan@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jamal Hassan - Gundamnit!)
Subject: UY 4 Lum the Forever - was A non-review of AnimEigo's URUSEI YATSURA 3: REMEMBER MY LOVE
Followup-To: rec.arts.anime
Organization: Sorry and Messy
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:40:47 GMT
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In article <1992Dec29.041447.29357@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>,
conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) wrote:

[ UY 3 stuff deleted]
> I'm waiting for UY 4.  Let's see if we *FINALLY* can understand whatever
> that movie is supposed to be...

> 			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y
> 			       Master of Science!
> 			      jester@ihlpm.att.com
> 		    Disclaimer: You're not dealing with AT&T

  Speaking of UY 4, someone *PLEASE* tell me what this movie is suppose to
be
about.  At least I could figure out *some* things with the unsubbed UY 2
Beautiful Dreamer(which by the way Animeigo's sub was wonderful). Buy UY 4
has
me totally confused...

--
You are up the proverbial estuary without a means of transportation...
How can you know where you're going if you don't know where you've been?!
--jkhassan@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jamal Hassan)
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From: thmartin@romulus.rutgers.edu (Miss Animerica)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: VGAi: IS "Glass Moon" lyrics
Date: 22 Dec 92 04:55:36 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Anime

Michael Studte specifically asked for the lyrics to this song.  For
you, Mike, here are the lyrics in romaji and in Japanese Industrial
Standard codes.  The ESC characters in the JIS codes are replaced with
"^[" for posting.

These and many other anime song lyrics and translations are available
for anonymous ftp from romulus.rutgers.edu (128.6.13.2), in the
pub/anime/lyrix subdirectory.

I'm translating these songs to learn Japanese, so if you notice any
mistakes, please correct me.

GARASU Moon (Glass Moon)
"Denei shoujo Video Girl Ai" insert song (1992)

kata ga fureru kyori  kizukainagara
SHUUZU no cha-iro ga  aseta no mitsumeteru

togireru kotoba no  saki de matsu no wa
TETORA to sazanami  yureteru GARASU Moon

kanashimu koto no tame ni
futari wa deatta no  naze

aoi yoru  to-iki no SAKANA ga hanete
futari wa  kowaresou-na MUUN SHADOU  hibiwarete

yasashi-sugiru koe  niawanai hito
kesenai kinou o  mou itawaranaide

namida seki-tometa  ito o haritsume
kono mama hitori ja  aruki-dasenai

tooku no BIRU no akari 
furuete utsushite
anata yori taisetsu-na
nanika ga wakaranai mama

aoi yoru  to-iki no SAKANA ga hanete
futari wa  chigiresou-na MUUN SHADOU

ima  saigo no SAKANA ga hanete
futari wa  kowaresou-na MUUN SHADOU   kudakarete

* sore wa itsumo yume no you ni
  kowaresou ni hakanakute
  sore wa itsumo aoi yoru ni
  furerarezu-ni  ukande

* Repeat and fade


Singer: Sudou Mayumi
Lyricist: Satoru Wakako
Composer/Arranger: Okada Tooru

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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Subject: Where to get KOR... (was Re: KOR question...)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 16:48:20 GMT

In article <9212260043.aa11841@Bonnie.ics.uci.edu>, dlo@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU writes:
> So, could somebody tell me where I can find all the tv episodes, OVA's, and
> movies?  BTW just exactly how many are we talking about here?

- 48 TV episodes, not available commercially in the US.
  Fan-subtitled version available from Artic Animation.

- 8 30 minute OVAs and 1 movie, available in 5 tapes from AnimEigo.
  Soon to be released on laserdisc.
-- 
			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y
			       Master of Science!
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From: gainax@venice.mps.ohio-state.edu (Chun-Li)
Subject: Re: AA vs. AX: Enough already!
Organization: Ohio State University; Physics Department
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 06:25:52 GMT

In article <2B39EEA8.1417@news.service.uci.edu> jwinkelman@vmsa.oac.uci.edu writes:
>Hi All!
>     I for one, have gotten pretty tired of this whole flame-war, let me tell ya.  For a while it's been sort of entertaining, but now, it's a waste of bandwidth.  So, please, take it off the newsgroup; there's already too much stuff to go through.
>And for those still following this whole thread:  Scorecards, anyone?   :-)
>
 think this flame war really sucks! I am sick of hearing people from AA
bitching about AX or whatever......

Just go on with your own con and make it the best con wins.....

I am sick and tired of whinning Otaku's bitching....


This is my VERRY OWN oppinons...NOT of AX or any other poor Otaku's having
to read all this F*CKIN B*LLSH*T!

hmmmmm........
       

-- 
Chun-Li AKA Otaku-Megami    gainax@venice.mps.ohio-state.edu
I am a manga artist, playing too much Super Nintendo, listening to U2,
wondering how much time I have, being Gofer Mommy for Anime Expo 93,
part of the Shogun Sabers, and taking deprived Otaku's to the promised land...
From: dhiga@aludra.usc.edu (Darold Higa)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: AA'93, AX'93, and Flame Wars
Date: 24 Dec 1992 04:25:02 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <40c0VB1w165w@lunacity.com> fafhrd@lunacity.com (David Medinnus) writes:

>While I agree with you that staff, and not just department heads, count 
>as staff, there is also the factor of experience to consider. For 
>example, who is doing your hotel/facility contracts? Not Chris Knight; he 
>would never have signed a contract like the one MT did with the Oakland 
>Parc. Who is running volunteers? Not Bob Lau. Who is running Operations 
>(either the entire division, or the Ops office)? Not Charlie Prael or Jo 
>Goldberg. Who is running Guest Relations? Not Andy Kim. Who is running 
>the Art Show? Dealers Room? And when you insert names to these positions, 
>could you please indicate as to whether or not any of these people have 
>done the job before? Or anything similar? On the other hand, y'all having 
>Terry Yuong (sp?) as Registration is VERY good; he was very professional 
>and efficient last year.

Is this kind of posting necessary?  Can we infer from this post that these are
the only individuals in the world which can run a good con?  There seems to be
an implication that there is only one way, only one set of people, only one
solution.  By this argument, nothing can ever be done unless it's been done
before.  That is utter nonsense.  A combination of experience (people other
than those in charge gain experience too!) and enthusiastic newcomers are what
MAKES effective organizations that do not unravel with the departure of a 
single figure.  Organizations work BECAUSE they diffuse power and experience
among their members.  I don't appreciate the implication that only AC 91 and
AX 92 staff are the only people able to run the next convention.

I really think that these cheap attacks against AX 93 staff do not reflect well
on American anime fandom.  Mudslinging dragged the politics of the late 80s
down into the sewer.  Must we do the same to anime?

Darold Higa
MA student, School of International Relations, USC
From: paul.gunton%theweb@meaddata.com (Paul Gunton) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: ANIME EXPO '93
Date: 21 Dec 92 01:31:00 GMT
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Reply-To: paul.gunton%theweb@meaddata.com (Paul Gunton) 

Does anybody know when Anime Expo '93 will take place and where???

Paul Gunton