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From: siggi@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Siegfried Hanisch)
Subject: Re: ga can't read 360kb d
Organization: Technical University of Vienna
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 07:55:29 GMT

marv.kohn@execnet.com (marv kohn) writes:
[...stuff deleted..]
>I have a similar problem with my 360KB B: drive.  My OS/2 setup usually
>cannot read diskettes that have been formatted by DOS.  However, if I use
>OS/2 to format a 360KB diskette in this drive, then OS/2 can read the
>diskette with no problems.  Sounds like a bug to me.
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The other way around, those OS/2 formatted 360KB disks cannot be read by DOS.

greetings
Siegfried Hanisch


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From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: CONFIRM: Animation is slow under OS/2?
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:18:43 GMT
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

brent@cco.caltech.edu (Brent R. Eubanks) writes:
>[quoting]
>You'd probably want to run the flight simulaters in a DOS full screen
>session.  16 colors does work, but is a little slower.  If the program
>is 256 colors, say goodbye to animation since OS/2 has to dither the 256
>colors to 16 colors (slow).  All of your programs continue to run if you
>run the game in the DOS full screen session (you can have multiple full
>screen sessions).  It helps to set DOS games to no background execution
>so they pause/stop stealing cycles when you switch away from them
>John

>This concerns me alot since it suggests that I can't play any

No, no, they'll work great.  He doesn't make it completely clear, but
when he's talking about 16 colors and "say goodbye to animation" and
dithering, he's talking about if you run it in a _window_ on the
desktop.  If you do it full screen, no problem.
-- 
Be braver.  You cannot cross a chasm in two small jumps.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mlord@bmers63.bnr.ca (Mark Lord)
Subject: Re: A silly question.
Organization: BNR, Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 16:17:50 GMT

In article <1992Apr4.014223.17524@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> wfp@turing.acs.virginia.edu (William F. Pemberton) writes:
>This will be, I assume, a silly question.  Can OS/2 create DOS compatible
>files on floppy?  I would like to get OS/2 for home, but I know it will
>be quite a while before I see it at work.  Will I be able to transport
>things back and forth?

Of course you will.   OS/2 currently supports *only* FAT for floppies.
>
>I assume this is no problem, but since I know OS/2 doesn't use the FAT system
>I am not sure.

Sure it does.  Your choice of FAT or HPFS for hard drives, and always FAT 
for floppies.
From: cjmarsha@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Charles Marshall)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Yawn!!!!  Boring....
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:31:25 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

Today's presentaton of OS/2 2.0 in Denver, Colorado was extremely
boring.  I don't know why IBM is presenting OS/2 this way and
taking this long to do it.  It will be amazing if OS/2 succeeds.
And let's hope that it does.  The product is incredible.  Windows
Apps were running seamlessly and most DOS apps didn't have any problems.
Anything that caused trouble could be knocked out of the system without
disturbing the rest of the environment!  Not like Window's 3.1 where 
the new buzz phrase is General Fault Error instead of Unrecoverable
Application Error!  

Unfortunately we could not get upgrades at seminar.  I was very 
disappointed finding out that I would have to wait.  Oh well...

Charles

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: lauch@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Chung Lau)
Subject: Re: PC Week Summary: 4/6/92
Organization: University of Engineering, College of Engineering
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 03:38:57 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.190602.26577@cheshire.oxy.edu> rafetmad@cheshire.oxy.edu (David R. Giller) writes:
>
>You're right: I shouldn't have taken Stac's figure.  However, Cannavino in
>his presentation, said there were 30,000 SITES, not users.  I'm sure there
>weren't 100 users per site, but I think he did mention something to the
>effect of the 'manyu times this number of Early Support Program users'.
>
>At any rate, didn't someone post here that some analyst estimated that over
>3 million copies have already been pre-sold?

  "OS/2 2.0, it is so superior that we've sold 3 million copies before
we even start to advertise it." - IBM ad.

  What do you guys think? 8)

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Internet: lauch@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu, Stephen_Lau@asylum.flex.com
From: rcook@grumpy.helios.nd.edu (robert cook)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: HPFS logical drive size
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:33:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr9.203344.27470
Reply-To: Cook.14@nd.edu (R. Kelley Cook)
Organization: Univ. of Notre Dame

In article <54004@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gt6493c@prism.gatech.EDU (gt6493c FLUHR,ERIC J) writes:
|> Hello there.  Sorry for the rather basic question, but I've been wondering
|> about this for a while.
|> I was told a long time back that you shouldn't divide your hard drive
|> into partitions longer than 32MB, since performance would be worse the
|> larger the size over 32 (this is for FAT).  I wasn't sure how to take 
|> this, since I thought the reason many systems kept to the 32MB limit
|> was because of DOS < 4.0.  
|> Is this true?  Thinking about it I can understand why a 120MB logical
|> drive may, on average, access slower due to the possibility of longer
|> seek times (only for moderately filled drives, though).
|> So is formatting a 120MB HPFS drive into smaller drives a good idea,
|> even though it wouldn't have the same long seek times for a full
|> drive?
|> If so, what is a good size?  Right now I am running 3 40MB partitions
|> under DOS 5.0.
|> 
|> This question is for my (future) copy of GA.  Finally, my Windows will
|> be put to good use (other than gathering dust).
|> 
|> Thanks,
|> -- 
|> Fluhr, Eric J.                           Georgia Institute of Technology
|> Awesome, Underrated, Developed in Ingolstadt:  Audi, the #1 imported
|> German car.  Better than a cold Becks, even.

For HPFS, it is not nessecary to divide your HD to improve performance,
because Microsoft's Gordon Letwin so superbly designed it so it will not 
start thrashing when things get placed near the end of the disk, nor will 
files likely fragment over time as is the case with FAT.

-- 
Robert Kelley Cook     << Cook.14@nd.edu >>
Univ. of Notre Dame     The future for Intel computers arrived March 31!
Physics Dept.            Long Live the new OS/2!  Time to close the Windows!
From: easyrob@cs.utexas.edu (Robert Depew Reynolds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: "EA DATA.SF" ?
Date: 13 Apr 1992 00:22:55 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: coltexo.cs.utexas.edu


The down fall of OS/2 total DOS compatability caused by a simple " ".

Wouldn't all DOS programs back up the EA information if the file had only
been called "EA_DATA.SF" and remained marked as a hidden system file??

This decision must have been made late at night by some very tired, over
worked programmer in Boca.  Don't you just hate when that happens!??

Robert D. Reynolds
easyrob@cs.utexas.edu
From: aleran@byron.u.washington.edu (Steve Umbehocker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 Modem Settings
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:37:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Apr7.173753.3042
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

I've just got a 16550 chip and need to know what MODE paramaters I should
use to configure my settings. I would also like to know if I should change
any of my dos settings so I can use Telix in a dos window and still get
a decent cps rate while multitasking...also, if you e-mail an answer,
please send it to pbinder@atk.com, thanks!

Peter Binder
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sthiagar@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (sivasailam thiagarajan)
Subject: Re: Word for Windows vs. Word for PM
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 02:15:06 GMT

In article <8gtjlhb.feustel@netcom.com> feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel) writes:
>I have all three versions of Word. I prefer Word 5.5 in a dos box best
>of all.
------
By the way, did you know you actually have all *four* versions of
Word? If you run the Word 5.5 installer from an OS/2 command prompt,
it will install the family-mode version of Word 5.5. That is, you will
get a program that will run as a native (text-mode but windowable)
OS/2 app, *or* as a DOS app. I discovered this almost by accident, and
don't understand why Microsoft doesn't advertise (or even really
document) this fact. (Well, maybe I *do* have my suspicions :-). Try
it, you'll like it!

>David Feustel N9MYI, 1930 Curdes Ave, Fort Wayne, IN 46805. (219)482-9631
>= Candidate Bush wouldn't recognize principle if he were standing upon it =

Raja Thiagarajan
(sthiagar@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu)

(Starting tomorrow, I will be away from my computer account until
April 18. E-mail is always welcome, but please keep in mind I won't
see it for a week. Thank you.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: des@frogland.inmos.co.uk (David Shepherd)
Subject: Re: HPFS and Memory
Organization: INMOS architecture group
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 09:22:04 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.142236.24540@uwm.edu>, tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael D Kretzer) writes:
>From article <26908@wraxall.inmos.co.uk>, by des@frogland.inmos.co.uk (David Shepherd):
>> In article <1992Apr10.160426.2863@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, rothman@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>> i have rescanned the installation guide and i still can't find any
>> warning that i should not install hpfs on a machine with 4-6 Mb 
>> memory.
>This information is in the README file (yes, I know, how can that help you
>BEFORE you have installed OS/2?).  It also mentions that the installation
>program won't install HPFS in the first place unless you happen to be
>installing from a previous version of OS/2 and your drive is formatted
>for HPFS if you have 6MB of memory or less.

i must admit i'd already found that reference, but as you say that's
a bit redundant ... you've already made the choice by the time you
can get at it.

is a FAT format the same as a HPFS format ... its already formatted
the disk and loaded stuff on by the time it is selctively installing.
+ when offered choice between FAT and HPFS, HPFS is the default.
there really ought to be something highlighting this as otherwise
many people may get a wrong impression of the system.

i've re-installed with FAT and removed all trace of IFS support
by hand and it seems much snappier (admittedly theres a slightly
faster disk in there now as well). looks like i can stop look
at how expensive 486 motherboards are now for a while!

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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 on 386SX 16MHz?
Date: 13 Apr 92 04:25:15 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1992Apr13.033921.8481@towers.rn.com> davidh@towers.rn.com (David Holland) writes:
>>I am writing this on a such machine - this is a Model 55SX with 4MB,
>>and 16 miserable megahurts (!). I have two DOS windows open now, one
>>OS/2 window is my VM-to-IP postscript-printer-deamon which sits
>>and wakes up every minute to check for things to get printed, and
>>everything runs great. With 4MB, expect a swap file of about 6MB on
>It does??? How?  I'm running a 486/33 with only 4Megs of RAM, and 
>as far as I'm concerned its un-usable. Its just a basic clone 486/33
>Paradise VGA, and 200 Meg IDE drive. And the fool thing spends so much
>time swapping, that I can get it to tell me that apps aren't responding
>to the system fairly consitantly with control-esc. 
>Actually, my 286-12 with 4Megs was considerably more "usable" under
>1.3 than 2.0 is on a 486-33 with 4Megs. 

The key seems to be HPFS.  HPFS and a 4 MB machine DO NOT MIX.  IBM
says as much -- even in the package you get.  Make sure you have no
IFS line in your CONFIG.SYS (or it is REMmed out).  The HPFS driver
takes up a precious half megabyte which simply cannot be spared on a 4
MB machine.  Only use HPFS if you have 6 MB of RAM or more.
-- 
Timothy F. Sipples       Keeper of the OS/2 Frequently Asked Questions
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu  List, available via anonymous ftp from
Dept. of Economics       128.123.35.151, directory pub/os2/faq, or via
Univ. of Chicago  60637  netmail from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tuesday, 7 Apr 1992 21:10:10 CDT
From: Bob  Jackiewicz <U25042@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 Live at Comdex

In article <9204071911.AA08145@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, pebly@vnet.ibm.com (Bob
Pebly) says:
>
>Just finished watching Lee Reiswig demo OS/2 2.0 live at Comdex.  The
>last item in the demo was a copy of Windows =>3.1<= running in a
>window on the 2.0 desktop!                    ~~~

I especially liked the way he was playing dumb on this issue right before
he showed it. He said, with sarcasm, I'm sure, that they got it to run (3.1)
24 hours after shipping the GA disks to the printer. :-)

   On the opening, they showed Bonnie Blair speed skating, Phil Mahre (?)
skiing, and Jim Cannavino just skiing. They showed Bonnie Blair setting
the new world record for a speed skating event, Phil winning the gold
in downhill skiing. As for Jim, the announcement was "and here's Jim, with
only one obstacle to go." Then they showed the outline of a pane of glass,
which he promptly crashed through. That got a good laugh from the crowd.
I really liked the show.
   BTW, they were giving away "OS/2 Monthly" issue two for free. I was
really surprised that this was there. It looks like a really well put
together magazine (with some flaws, of course), especially for a new one.

  Brought to you by the sick mind of      University of Illinois at Chicago
  Bob Jackiewicz, writer of wrongs,                    BITNET: U25042@UICVM
  wronger of rights; not UIC.                InterNet: U25042@uicvm.uic.edu
  When DOS grows up it wants to be OS/2
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: fell@sol.UVic.CA (Stuart Fell)
Subject: hardware cache and OS/2
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, B.C. CANADA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 20:50:43 GMT

I am curious, how will having a small, a large, or no hardware cache on a
40 MHz 386 will affect OS/2.  I currently have a 64K hardware cache (that
I can disable if necessary), but I have the option of expanding that up to
256K.  Will this increase/decrease my performance of OS/2???

Stuart
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu (John H. Kim)
Subject: Bug in GA or is my copy corrupted?
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 07:09:46 GMT

Can some folks who have >1 partition set up under GA try the following
and report your results here?  It's related to the problem I posted
about moving a folder between drives.

Take a folder (directory), any folder in one of your drive partitions.
Drag it over to another drive partition and drop it.  Does WPS try to
COPY it or MOVE it to the other drive object?

On my copy, WPS tries to MOVE the folder.  I've been told that it's
supposed to COPY the folder since it's between drives.  But I've gotten
MOVE the last three times I've reinstalled.

Also, completely unrelated, has anybody gotten the minimize button
behavior setting for full screen and windowed sessions to work?
Specifically, I set the OS/2 windowed session object to minimize
to the desktop and I start a session.  If I minimize it, it doesn't
minimize to the desktop.  Rather it does whatever the System settings
(in the Settings folder) says.  If System is set as minimize to viewer,
the minimized windowed session goes into the viewer.  This has to be
a bug, otherwise what's the point of having this option in the OS/2
windowed session settings?

Finally, how do you get something like TE/2 full screen to show up with
the TE/2 icon on the desktop?  It works if I start an OS/2 full screen
session and start TE/2 manually.  But if I set up a program object to
start TE/2 full screen, I get the ugly OS/2 full screen icon.
-- 
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From: jja@wsl.ie (John J. Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 V2 isn't being ignored by the press in Vancouver!
Date: 9 Apr 92 09:08:29 GMT
Organization: Workhorse Systems Limited, Dublin, Ireland

PCW (a UK mag) has an article on Windows & OS/2, and although the article
concentrates almost exclusively on Windows it does say that  
'Good and all as Windows 3.1 obviously is, OS/2 is the shape of operating
systems to come. Although the coverage in this months article was mostly
on Windows that is because most of you are likely to have Windows rather 
than OS/2'

This seems to indicate that as OS/2 picks up the coverge will increase, so
we ought to see massive coverage by next month
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: duffy@theory.chem.ubc.ca (Pat Duffy)
Subject: Yet another idea for an OS/2 V2 ad.
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 09:25:06 GMT

Hi All!

This one came to me on the bus today.  Must be in some creative phase of
my biorhythmic cycle :-).

Fade in:  To a shot of a Windows screen with the now much-vaunted UAE.

Fade out:  Text that says:  "Are you having problems with your computer
           not running all the software you wanted it to?  Take action to
           correct the situation NOW."

Fade in:  The same Windows screen with the same UAE.  About one second
          after fade-in, the monitor explodes violently.  Bits of glass
          and plastic fly everywhere.  When the smoke clears, another
          monitor is there with the OS/2 startup logo on it.

Fade out:  Text that says:  "OS/2 V2 from IBM.  Get it NOW."

What do you think?  _I'd_ like it, anyway...
-- 
Patrick Duffy, E-Mail:  duffy@theory.chem.ubc.ca

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From: slam@eve.wright.edu (Sau Chun Lam)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Comdex & OS/2
Keywords: OS/2, SCSI and Giveaways
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:57:13 GMT
Organization: Wright State University

Hello one and all,
	Thanks you for the email regarding how to get to and into Comdex
at Chicago. I went there and was very fortunate to get complimentary
passes into the show.
	My first stop was of course booth 3006 which was the OS/2 show.
Great setup with lots of PS/2s running OS/2 and all kinds of 3rd party
software such as Citrix. Lots of helpful, knowledgable IBM folks
including the OS/2 experts walking around and answering questions. There
was a ton of people there!
	Squeezed into one of the presentations for OS/2. The had an
animated video character from the fictitious law firm of Dewey, Cheatem 
and Howe(!!) in the presentation. It was a humorous and informative session 
and everyone had a good laugh from all the bald, wise cracking cartoon 
character. People who were seated each got a cap (I'm wearing mine right
now) and others got OS/2 mouse pads and "I want OS/2" buttons. I don't
know if many people noticed but while the animated character was
displayed on the main projector, it was a minimized **ANIMATED** icon on 
the WPS!!! Wow!
	The presenters demoed full-screen Windows, seamless Windows and
VDMs. They ran Lotus 123 loading a 400K spreadsheet in under 10 secs in
a VDM and showed cut and paste from Corel Draw to Describe. DDE between
Excel for Windows and 123 for OS/2 was also shown. As a finale, they
started up 32-bit and 16-bit OS/2 apps, 16-bit DOS apps and Windows apps
all running on the WPS. There were quite a few slack jaws and open
mouths.
	Did not have any luck in getting a spotter to notice me and
getting a coupon for a free copy of OS/2. However, I managed to beg and
steal one!!! Thanks IBM! My wife was lucky and she got a free copy of
OS/2 from a spotter.
	Went over to the OS/2 demo area. Lots of PS/2s and a few clones
running OS/2 with people trying them out. Talked to one of the OS/2
Experts on hand about Adaptec SCSI support. According to him, ASPI is
coming! Due to be out at the end of 2nd Quarter. CD-ROM support is
currently available for Toshiba CD-ROMs with support for SONY, NEC,
etc coming soon. Work is going to be done for **GENERIC CD-ROM
SUPPORT**. Way to go IBM!! No date as to when it will be appearing but
it is going to be the next major piece of development work for them.
	Comdex is humungous!! Was only there for a day and I covered
only a quarter of what was there. Rounded up the evening with a
wonderful North Indian dinner at DeVon Ave. Deeeelicious!

PS - Windoze was quite prominent. Lots of banners, plastic bags, ads,
etc. I still think the star of the show is OS/2!!

SC Lam - slam@eve.wright.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: alushiku@engws4.ic.sunysb.edu (Lushiku)
Subject: Re: Setting the path
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 13:28:25 GMT

In article <sridhar.703345176@fir.cs.scarolina.edu> sridhar@cs.scarolina.edu (M. A. Sridhar) writes:
>mcover@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark Coverdill) writes:
>
>>Being a novice to OS/2, having very little documentation and little
>>time to wade through the help system I thought I would ask some of those
>>new user FAQ's :-).
>
>>I realize the path gets setup in the autoexec.os2 file but how I can I get
>>more than the paltry 137 characters?
>
>I don't know the answer to this one, but I'd sure like to know!
>

I often had problems with the DOS path character limitation and found my
solution in the %PATH% environment variable.  In DOS you can add director-
ies of your choice to %PATH% and reset it to it's original state by means
of a batch file variably.  I don't know if OS/2 includes such a variable.
While it doesn't deal with the limitation itself, it's a decent workaround.

alushiku@libserv1.ic.sunysb.edu
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