From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Gay martial artists (was Re: aikido!)
Date: 30 Jul 1992 20:18:04 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu
Keywords: gay liberation = knowledge of Margaret Rutherford

In article <1992Jul31.002328.18848@spdcc.com> 
dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyerwrwho has been around the
block a few times yet somehow manages to retain his
air of cool serenity, except when e-hugs are offered
too readily, writes, in what I will charitably assume
was a moment of distraction:
|
| In article <1992Jul30.225047.7741@reed.edu> 
| nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) who is very tall, and
| very young, and, one hopes, very educable, writes:
|
| >In article <l7gk16INN2e9@mizar.usc.edu> 
| >adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) who is, we now
| >understand, terribly crabby because he needs to get
| >himself fucked (and who is now sitting in his dining
| >room nude and sucking down a to die for homemade 
| >margarita) wrote:
|
| >>I still think gay liberation is about knowing who Margaret
| >>Rutherford was.

That, dear readers, was in response to some numbskull's attempt
to identify that which we know and love as "gay liberation" with
the ongoing totaliarian mess known as the Cuban Revolution.  Gay
liberation isn't about the fight for gay rights -- heavens no!
Gay liberation is about the fight for literacy campaigns -- using
Castro-approved primers, no doubt -- in Cuban backwaters.  Excuse
me, honey, but I want nothing to do with *your* liberation movement.

| >I must not be liberated yet - who's Margaret Rutherford?

Dear, sweet, *young* Nelson!  Give me your hand -- I'll teach
you, and I promise to be gentle.

| Hint... Remember your ancient history?  The Marx Brothers?

Oh my.  Steve, how *could* you make such an elementary mistake?
The Margaret of Marx Brothers fame is Margaret Dumont.  Were you
distracted by the sight of, say, Wallace Beery in a t-shirt 
when you wrote that?  Margaret Rutherford was the delightfully
eccentric, slow-moving, heavyset English actress best known, 
perhaps, for the Miss Marple movies she made in the 1960s.  She 
was also a *brilliant* Miss Prism to the even more brilliant Lady
Bracknell of the incomparable Edith Evans.  Hence Elaine Stritch's
joke, comparing what she looked like when she was trying to record
"Ladies Who Lunch" with Margaret Rutherford (doddering, elderly,
craggy-faced, overweight, slow-moving) doing the life story of
Judy Garland (frenetic, etc. etc. etc. -- I trust everyone knows
what Judy was like? I ask with *some* trepidation).

| >(And no snide comments about my queer card. See the photo of me and
| >Johnny "sweet thang" Dorrance skipping in the park hand in hand, first)
|
| It's a Generation X thang, Arne.  We wouldn't understand...

I'm not sure I *want* to understand.

Michael suggested:
| >>>Seriously hon, have you considered getting fucked? You've been
| >>>awfully crabby lately.

And I responded:
| >>You know, you just might have, ahem, put your finger on it.  Anyone
| >>care to volunteer his services?

Nelson chided:
| >You're the one who didn't show up at the con, dear, not us :-)

And Steve rubbed it in:
| There did seem to be an awful lot of that going on.

Damn.  Next year's is where?  Austin?

Arne