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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 12:16:52 -0400 
From: "Thomas W. Pope" <tp1l+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: preponderance of humanoids

  Has a canon (or even non-canon) explanation been given for the
plethora of humanoid, english speaking aliens in the Star Trek
universe.  It seems that most of the aliens we meet look  like humans
with funny faces (wrinkled noses, big ears, etc...)  They also have an
annoying tendency to speak perfect english with a slight Midwestern
accent...  
  Is there a reasonable explanation for this, or is it just a matter
of cost effectiveness?  

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: re: yet another discussion of trek;s peripheral material
From: litt@wittenberg.edu
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:14:12 -0400
Organization: Wittenberg University

Scott J Gorcey writes:

>Speak for yourself.  There hasn't been a good novel since
>_Doctor's Orders_ for TOS and there's never been a really
>good TNG novel.

NOT FAIR!  Metamorphosis was reallly great!  And so was Q in Law!
Doctor's Orders was a few  years ago, and I have enjoyed alot of TOS since
then.  Also, wasn't Spock's World after that?  I am sure that The Lost Years
was.  Anyway, not fair to blast all the books from the last three years or so. 
Besides, Doctor's Orders was not all that good anyway.


							I LIKE MY BOOKS!
From: tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch)
Subject: Re: Occurance of 18 in ST: TNG
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:40:44 GMT

rlm7638@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jack McKinney) writes:

>     Some people think that this is silly, but several of us have noticed
>that the number 18 is picked as a 'random' number on the show too often
>to be _completely_ meaningless. I can think of three examples off of the
>top of my head: int two episodes, 18 people died. In another, Data men-
>tions there being 18 seconds until something hapenned. 

Hey, in "Cause and Effect", it was *36* seconds to a particular critical
event.  Twice 18.  :-)

Tim Lynch
From: jke@math.ufl.edu (Jeffery Eddings)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Worst pick-up lines in Federation history!
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:24:05 GMT
	<1992Apr3.222425.26960@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>
	<1992Apr3.225700.2366@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Florida Department of Mathematics

From "Up The Long Ladder":

COMMANDER RIKER (To Brenna O'Dell):  "Is there some special technique
                                      to this foot-washing?"

Yeah...I go up to the best-looking woman I can find and say that, and
I'll get her to "fly into my arms."  Yeah...roit.  8)

--Jeffery
/-----------------------------------------------------------/
|   |   Jeffery K. Eddings  University of Florida           |
| --+--   jke@math.ufl.edu    Department of Mathematics     |
|   |       Flamingo, Trekker, CCM-er, San Jose Sharks      |
|   |         Fan, MiSTie, and all-around nice guy!  8)     |
/-----------------------------------------------------------/
From: learnd@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Dave Learn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Star Trek meets Shakespeare
Keywords: just kidding
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:12:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Lafayette College, Easton


According to rumor, DeForrest Kelly recently starred in an off-Broadway
production of William Shakespeare's _Hamlet_ to benefit charity.  The
scene came wherein Hamlet picks up Yorrick's skull and wonders at the
way death has treated the merry old fellow.

Kelly picked up the skull, and with great flourish, announced, "Alas,
poor Yorick!  He's dead Jim!"


Dave Learn, Knight of the Wolves                    "Maddest of all: to see
                                                     life as it is, and not as
dl20@lafayacs.bitnet, learnd@lafsun.lafayette.edu    it should be."
learnd@lafcol.lafayette.edu, learnd@lafayett.bitnet          -- Cervantes
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From: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current,comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Announcing the Star Trek-TNG Episode Guide stack
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:57:01 GMT
Reply-To: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Distribution: world,public
Organization: University of Arizona

Hello!!  McFly!!! Anyone home?!

This thread has wandered far beyond what could by any stretch of the
imagination be considered "Star Trek".

Anyone who feels they must follow up, PLEASE remove the startrek
groups from the first line!

Thank you for your attention.

-- 
Dave Schaumann			dave@cs.arizona.edu
From: rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (System Administrator)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Large Comic Book Collection for Sale
Date: 11 Apr 92 07:17:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: crash.1992Apr11.071738.18986
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA

Why don't we get garbage like this in the various sale newsgroups?
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From: ung (Bill Ung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: My 10 favorites
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:10:30 GMT
Reply-To: ung (Bill Ung)
Organization: FileNet Corp., Costa Mesa, CA
Return-Path: <darnold>
Apparently-To: felix!postnews

In article <1992Mar23.014335.2188@news.iastate.edu> ddkilzer@iastate.edu (David D Kilzer) writes:
|In article <1992Mar21.095556.9362@javelin.sim.es.com> JHIATT@130.187.170.178 (JOHN HIATT) writes:
||
|| Here are my lists of 10 of the best and worst Star Trek originals... I'd be 
||interested in seeing others post their lists.  First off let me just say that
||I'm a big fan of Captain Kirk; growing up in a single parent home and
||watching
||Star Trek faithfully everyday I looked to Kirk as a sort-of father figure.
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||My 10 favorites are:
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||6) ARENA
||  I don't know why, but that lizard has always appealed to me...its hidden in
||  my childhood past somewhere I suppose.
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|[Least 10 Favorites removed]
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|[Spoilers for "Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey" forthcoming.  Relates to
|TOS show called ARENA.]
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|Have you seen "Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey"???  During the movie (near the
|beginning) those 2 most excellent dudes, Bill and Ted, are in their apartment
|and have the TV on...which just happens to be showing the part of ARENA where
|Kirk is duking it out with the lizard creature.
|
|THEN, a short time later, (after the Evil Bill Robot and the Evil Ted Robot
|kidnap the real Bill and Ted--you'll have to watch the whole movie to know
|what's going on here), you find that the four characters are driving
|out into the desert, and they just happen to stop at the EXACT spot where
|the desert scene in ARENA was filmed.  Pretty cool!!
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|When Bill and Ted see where they are, they look at each other and exclaim
|in unison:  "NO WAY!!"  (Yes, they were actually watching ARENA before they
|were kidnapped!)
|
|--Dave
|-- 
|[   |The Davemeister<   ][ ___The_Borg_on_College___ ][   __Star_Trek_IV__   ]
|[ ddkilzer@iastate.edu  ][ "Homework is irrelevant." ][ Kirk:  "No, I'm from ]
|[  David "Dave" Kilzer  ][ "Studying is irrelevant." ][ Iowa. I only WORK in ]
|[  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  ][ "Partying _IS_ relevant." ][ outer space."        ]

I don't work in outer space but I live in Southern California.  The neat
thing is, that desert area is located in Southern California.  It's called
"Vasquez Rocks" and I've been there.  Climbed up to the top too, in my
office shoes no less (Bill wasn't thinking that day).  Pretty nice view.

Just thought I'd share that with you.

Bill Ung
  ung@filenet.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: jal41820@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Smiley)
Subject: Re: Occurance of 18 in ST: TNG
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:25:54 GMT

hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes:
:)Total   23.5

:)Rounding, you get 24 which, as we all know, is 18 in hexadecimal.

*grin* Don't you mean in base 7?

2*7 + 4 = 18


THIS is more reminisent of the posting over the summer when there weren't
any new episodes. Where's Stephen???  :)

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From: andy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Andrew Hackard)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: The R.A.S.* Drinking Game (Version 1.5)
Keywords: booze booze booze
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:29:13 GMT
Organization: Leapers For a Better Yesterday

rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>andy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Andrew Hackard) writes:
>>Whenever Tim or Michael respond to the post			2
>>Every time one of them says it is his absolute last
>>  time to post on that subject				3
>
>Well, as I almost never say that...  (I'm quite cognizant of the fact that
>I'm willing to carry a thread on ad nauseum until I absolutely lose
>interest in it - which is usually long after everyone else :-)

You're right...what with all the arguments Tim gets into, I can't keep
them straight. :)

>>For every review of a new episode				1
>
>Oh, gee... you mean I'm cutting down on people's drinking now...?

Not by enough to counteract everyone else...as with the Purity Test, on
the RAS Drinking Game, All Technicalities Count. (Remind me to add that
in.)

>>Michael Rawdon changes his .sig quote				1
>
>You should probably be aware that my posting software is currently configured
>so that a .sig is chosen from a database FOR EACH ARTICLE I POST.  (I
>currently have an r.a.s database of 13 sigs, which makes the chances of a
>repeat on two articles relatively rare, though not incredibly so...)

Actually, I thought you had a stable of them and picked the one that seemed
most appropriate to your post.  Silly me.

>I think that this cancels out my not doing reviews anymore, yes? :-)

By quite a bit.

>>Stephen Dennison posts a pun					0
>
>How about when I respond with a pun? :-)

I'm trying to forget, Michael.

>>Kibo posts to r.a.s.*						1
>
>Who?

Leader Kibo, He Who Rules HappyNET.  All hail Leader Kibo.

--Andrew

-- 
--Andrew Hackard                    Disclaimer: As usual, I wasn't consulted.
  andy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu           

"The U.S. is the only highly industrialized nation that teaches eight years of 
 arithmetic, while others begin to lay the foundation for algebra and geometry 
 in primary grades."                              --Iris Carl, President, NCTM
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita)
Subject: Re: Cheers==TNG Crossovers
Organization: Columbia U., New York City
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 18:12:10 GMT


	It IS interesting that 3 of the Cheers cast have had some
role or another on various Star Treks.
	-- Ethan


While campaigning in the jewish community, Bill Clinton agreed to
have a circumcision as soon as his erection is over.
	-- Dennis Miller
From: daveh@netcom.com (Dave Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Star Dates
Keywords: stardates picard fun
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:50:45 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


	I have a quick question that I would like answered.  I was wondering
what the "format" of the current stardates is?  The ones that Picard rattles
off at the beginning of every show?  Thanks...

Please mail responses to my e-mail address, as I don't have the time to read
this group regularly.  My e-mail address is: daveh@netcom.com

Thanks
-- 
Dave Hamilton		  | "Better the pride that resides in a citizen
daveh@netcom.COM	  |  of the world, than the pride that divides
apple!netcom!daveh	  |  when a colorful rag is unfurled."
70244.322@Compuserve.COM  |				-- N. Peart
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: janus@magnusson.uucp (Janus International Inc.)
Subject: Intermix Columns on STII vs. TNG, STVI
Organization: Salt Lake City NeXT Users Group
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:46:40 GMT

This may seem like a minor point, but I noticed that on STVI, the intermix  
column was exactly like the one on TNG, which was that serial neon  
flash-tube thing.

I preferred the one in STII, where there was a much better intermix  
effect, with what looked convincingly like a plasma that was constantly  
churning within the confines of the magnetic containment field.

Now back to your regularly scheduled Usenet.

Kris
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: an321@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stephen Fellows)
Subject: redistributing net.fiction
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 20:46:33 GMT


A friend of mine (ST6267@siucvmb.siu.edu) runs a PC BBS, and he's
looking for net.science-fiction (preferably, but not necessarily,
Star Trek) to make available. I've told him about the alt.startrek
creative FTP site (procyon.cis.ksu.edu), but if any of you out
there have something not on that site which you think he might
want to put up, feel free to e-mail it to him at 
ST6267@siucvmb.siu.edu or me at ST1450@siucvmb.siu.edu.
I'd prefer you not mail to the account I'm posting this from,
since this account has a size limit on the mailbox.

For anyone who cares, the phone number of my friend's board is
618-549-5351 (that's in Carbondale, IL, USA) 3/12/2400, 8N1,
24 hrs/day.

Thanks!
Steve

ST1450@siucvmb.siu.edu
ST1450@siucvmb.bitnet
an321@cleveland.freenet.edu
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From: lordSnooty@cup.portal.com (Andrew - Palfreyman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.sf.fandom,rec.arts.sf.misc,rec.arts.sf.written,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Do you have a towel?
Date: 9 Apr 92 08:57:59 GMT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)




   IS IT JUST ME, OR IS IT HOT IN HERE????????





i.

	by FAR my favo(u)rite post of the ... MONTH
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Completely unrelated to anything.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 16:44:24 GMT

Suddenly, and without warning, last night I was struck by-- a thought!

The most popular episodes of each series:

ST2:TWOK : The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
           (Enterprise crew, Spock)

Yesterday's Enterprise: The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
           (Entire Federation, Enterprise crew)

City on the Edge: The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
           (Entire Federation, Edith Keeler)


It's strange how the 'best' are all the same...

-- 
  "It begins here--an army--to bring sense to a world plagued by worse than
   thieves and murderers. This will be a good life... good enough."
             Bruce Wayne, "Batman: The Dark Knight Returns"
hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu                             Gene Roddenberry 1921-1991
From: mary@wheat-chex.ai.mit.edu (Mary S. Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: 3 in 1 Opinionated Comments (1st season episodes)
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:59:01 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory

In article <1992Apr10.225707.1834@cco.caltech.edu> tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes:
>kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes:

[referring to season one of TNG]
>>I hope to see a good Worf episode soon.
>
>Keep hoping.  I can't think of anything for most of the season.  Worf didn't
>come into his own, I think, until Tasha freed up room for him by conveniently
>dying.

I thought Worf had a relatively interesting part in "Heart of Glory"
towards the end of the first season.  However, it's been quite a 
while since I saw the episode. 
Mary Soon Lee    (mary@ai.mit.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch)
Subject: Re: 3 in 1 Opinionated Comments (1st season episodes)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 22:26:17 GMT

kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes:
>In article <1992Apr10.225707.1834@cco.caltech.edu> tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes:

>>Oboy, oboy!  I can deal with both Michael and Atsushi at once!  :-)

>It's been a long time.

Aye.

>>>>I find it very instructive to compare the characters in "EaF" to those in
>>>>"Where No Man Has Gone Before", because the two episodes take completely
>>>>different approaches the characters handling.
>>>>
>>>>"EaF" basically starts with a clean slate and a bunch of nonentities, and
>>>>takes us through the motions of introducing us to the characters.  
>>
>>Quite true; and I found that much of it interesting.  It's nice in some 
>>ways to realize that some of these characters don't know any more about
>>each other than you do.  Of course, it's also frustrating in a way, because
>>it tends to make things more blatant (e.g. the horrid Yar speech in the 
>>courtroom).

>"Tends to make things more blatant?" I can see that being a logical 
>consequence of starting out with a raw set of characters at the beginning 
>if you're doing a typical sitcom where you have to grab an audience with
>a gimmick in your first 2.5 outings or face the big network axe.

>Without that problem, though, you could flesh out the characters more
>subtlely and slowly and let the revelations come at a natural time instead
>of grafting it on. 

[etc.]

Quite right; I should have clarified.  Given the usual constraints of televi-
sion and the usual attitudes of television creators, it will often make
things more blatant.  I never said it *had* to.  :-)

>Instead, they started out with two "here are a lot of facts about
>the characters" episodes and a lot of it *was* blatant. Of course, there's
>the opposing factor that they were competing against the memory of the TOS
>characters who had a big headstart on character delineation -- given
>that, it's understandable why they'd want to get at least the basic
>characterizations out the door as quickly as possible.

True.  Pity they didn't do a better job getting out of the gate.

>>On the other hand, I find it hard to
>>accept any claim that Picard, Data, Worf, and Wes have gone nowhere; and
>>even Bev's been fleshed out quite a bit, IMO.

>Wes is definitely way ahead of where he started (although I have to say
>he couldn't go much lower than where he started.) 

:-)

>Picard went high
>on the Borg thread, but after FAMILY, all traces of it disappeared. I
>don't recall any significant developments since then.

Probably not a whole lot, but I think he's been significantly high for most
of the series, so there's not a lot of wiggle room left.

Tim Lynch
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: SHIP LISTING????????
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 05:25:35 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.171402.1@orca.alaska.edu> sxjwg@orca.alaska.edu writes:
>I am about to embark on a project concerning my truck.  However, I need a list
>that I saw on the net once before.  It was a listing of all known Federation
>vessels.  The list included the vessel's name, class and registry.  Could 
>someone repost this list or email it to me.   THANKS!!!!!!!!

Which list are you looking for?  There are three that are regularly posted:
mine, Joseph Creighton's, and Gordon Edward's.  My own has the most ships,
but most are 'non-canon', while the others use only 'official' sources.
If you say which you want I could mail it...

(Your truck, eh?  Going to paint it white and give it a NCC number?  I've
always wanted to do that... :)

-- 
"What? Over? Did you say it's over? Nothing's over, till we decide it is! 
 Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!" --John Belushi
hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu                        Gene Roddenberry 1921-1991
From: v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Wesley's a dead man ... Wesley's a dead man ...
Date: 6 Apr 92 01:42:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <040520241@flamer.hell.edu>, daemon@flamer.hell.edu writes...
> 
>Damm!
> 
>Why couldn't wesley have been the one to die!
>I was expecting it... and I bet you were too!
> 
>The faster they shoot off that runt, the better TNG will become...
>(even though it's coming to an end... let's hope the replacement show
>will be better...)
> 
>The Devil!
>[Wesley you will burn in hell! TRUST ME!]
>--

     Don't you find that the cojones it takes to spewge forth a 
     lovely and heartfelt statement such as this is just negated -
     stomped - when the brave big man doesn't have the balls to
     use his real address?
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From: krp@koko.csustan.edu (Ken Pergrem)
Subject: Re: Worst pick-up lines in Federation history!
Organization: CSU Stanislaus
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 18:46:10 GMT

In article <JKE.92Apr8102405@cantor.math.ufl.edu> jke@math.ufl.edu (Jeffery Eddings) writes:
>From "Up The Long Ladder":
>
>COMMANDER RIKER (To Brenna O'Dell):  "Is there some special technique
>                                      to this foot-washing?"
>
How about Dr. Richard Daystrom's "You are great, I am great!"

-- 
Kenneth R. Pergrem
krp@altair.csustan.edu  ..!uunet!altair.csustan.edu!krp    AOL: K Pergrem
Calif. State University, Stanislaus (Turlock, CA)
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