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From: mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson)
Newsgroups: misc.legal
Subject: Re: Interstate Commerce
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:19:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA

In <1992Dec16.222126.11975@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dpollard@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dennis B Pollard) writes:

|If common sense can't answer the question of shipping illegal items into a 
|state, I do not know what can.  Think about it.

What does common sense have to do with the law?

-- 
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a government.
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Newsgroups: misc.legal
From: dpollard@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dennis B Pollard)
Subject: Re:  Good Legal Writing
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:35:02 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.212823.10185@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dpollard@magnus.a
cs.ohio-state.edu (Dennis B Pollard) writes:

>No, not all of Judge Selya's opinions are that interesting, but I have managed

>to come across a few in law school.
>
>My favorite is the case in which a federal judge dismisses a case brought
>against the devil.  I believe that it was U.S. ex rel. Moyer v. Satan and his
>Helpers.  Every first-year should read this civil procedure classic.

Actually, the case was U.S. ex rel. Mayer v. Satan and His Staff.
Newsgroups: misc.legal,talk.politics.medicine
From: ndallen@r-node.gts.org (Nigel Allen)
Subject: Two Drug Manufacturers Charged with Fixing Price of Generic Drug
Organization: Echo Beach, Toronto
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 08:05:51 GMT

Here is a press release from the U.S. Department of Justice.

 Two Drug Manufacturers Charged with Fixing Price of Generic Drug
 To: National Desk
 Contact: Gina Talamona of the U.S. Department of Justice,
          202-514-2007

   WASHINGTON, Dec. 17   -- The Department of Justice
announced that a federal grand jury in Baltimore, Md., today returned
a one-count felony indictment charging two generic drug manufacturers
and their presidents with conspiring to fix the price of generic
Dyazide, a drug generally prescribed for the treatment of
hypertension or high blood pressure.
   The indictment, filed in U.S. District Court in Baltimore, named
Bolar Pharmaceutical Co. Inc. of Copiague, NY, and its president,
Lawrence S. Raisfeld, and Vitarine Pharmaceuticals Inc. of
Springfield Gardens, N.Y., and its president, Roger W. Jordan, as
defendants.  They were charged with a felony violation of Section 1
of the Sherman Act.
   The indictment charged that beginning as early as February 1988
and continuing through April 1989, the defendants and other
co-conspirators agreed to the range of prices at which Bolar and
Vitarine would sell generic Dyazide to various customers.
   Robert Shulman, former president of Bolar, was previously charged
for his role in the conspiracy in a one-count felony information
filed in Baltimore Dec. 9, 1992.
   During the conspiracy, Bolar sold over $65 million and Vitarine
sold over $10 million of generic Dyazide.  Both Bolar and Vitarine
withdrew their generic Dyazide from the market by early 1990.
   Charles A. James, acting assistant attorney general in charge of
the Antitrust Division, said the indictment resulted from a grand
jury investigation, conducted by the Antitrust Division and the U.S.
attorney's office in Baltimore, which has conducted a wide-ranging
investigation of the generic drug industry.  James said the
investigation is continuing.
   The maximum penalty for an individual convicted of a violation of
the Sherman Act is three years imprisonment and a fine that is the
greatest of $250,000, twice the pecuniary gain derived from the
crime, or twice the pecuniary loss caused to the victims of the
crime.
   For a corporation, the maximum penalty is the greatest of a
$1 million fine, twice the pecuniary gain the corporation derived
from the crime, or twice the pecuniary loss caused to the victims of
the crime.
 -30-
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From: Dennis.Unger@business.fidonet.org (Dennis Unger)
Newsgroups: misc.legal
Subject: Re: Fired for bad email
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 09:04:00 PDT
Organization: The Business!   Orlando FL.   (407) 682-2018

When Philip Stromer muttered something about Fired for bad email posti to All, we heard:

 PS> I was summoned by them to take a deposition yesterday, and I showed
 PS> up with my father (a retired attorney) at my side.  The other side's
 PS> lawyer has an absolute conniption, cancelled the deposition, and said
 PS> that he'd seek a protective order barring my father from attending.

 Philip, the companys attorney is within his rights to ask for the
 order since you had said you would be without an attorney. As to
 how hard it would be to get the order, don't know. Listen, as a
 praticual matter, why don't you have your father placed as the
 attorney of record, then their order becomes a mute point!
 Of course he would have to come out of retirement... and so it goes.
 CYA..

... Tagline fever is the primary symptom of the Blue Wave epidemic!!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.10

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Newsgroups: misc.legal
From: tzs@stein.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith)
Subject: Re:  Good Legal Writing
Organization: University of Washington School of Law, Class of '95
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 00:26:23 GMT

thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>>Actually, the case was U.S. ex rel. Mayer v. Satan and His Staff.
>>Actually, it's U.S. ex rel. Mayo v. Satan and His Staff, 54 F.R.F. 282
>>(W.D.Pa. 1971).
>Actually, it's 54 FRD 282 (W D Pa 1971).
>
>Ted "note the punctuation savings achieved by the Maroonbook" Frank

But note the vast decline in the grade I will receive in Basic Legal
Skills if I use the Maroonbook when the instructor asked for Bluebook!
Thus, it is Bluebook I shall be memorizing over Winter break rather
than Maroonbook...

--Tim Smith
Newsgroups: misc.legal
From: lkk@panix.com (Larry Kolodney)
Subject: Re: Good Legal Writing 
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 23:38:59 GMT
Organization: The Devil's Advocate

In <1992Dec18.025645.799@lunatix.uucp> bmiller@lunatix.uucp (Barry Miller) writes:
>The judge really got my attention with this:

>"Appellant's lament that summary judgment was premature because
>he was not afforded sufficient time is idle.  Admittedly, lawyers
>sop up time like a sponge soaks up water.  There is, however, a
>difference; that is the purpose of the sponge."

>Id. 242.

>This is the first time I have read Judge Selya.  Is anyone out
>there more familiar with this judge?  Are all of his opinions as
>enjoyable to read?  Any in particular you would recommend?


That's BRUCE Selya, a very conservative member of the 1st Circuit.
The opinions of his that I have read tend to have a really sarcastic
tone to them.  He's definitely anti-plaintiff.

-- 
larry kolodney:(lkk@panix.com) 
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From: rmhadley@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Bob Hadley)
Newsgroups: misc.legal
Subject: traffic court question
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:08:54 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


	Thanks for all the email replies.  Much of the advice was
helpful.

	--- Bob Hadley
Newsgroups: misc.legal
From: tzs@carson.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith)
Subject: Re: Fired for bad email postings
Organization: University of Washington School of Law, Class of '95
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:58:45 GMT

bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick) writes:
>Yes, he had a 'right' to be unnerved by the presence of another. Filing
>your suit stating that you were your own counsel of record means just
>that --no other counsel. 

I've got a question here (we don't really get into depositions
until next term in civil procedure).  Why can't you have someone
else there?  A quick examination of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure
failed to turn up an answer to this.  On the other hand, the Rules are
what people should have been citing a while back in that earlier thread
about hard-to-read legal writing, so I am not at all confident that I
was even in the right section!

--Tim Smith
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: sdunbar@mailbox.fwrdc.rtsg.mot.com  (Steven T. Dunbar)
Subject: Re: SUPPLEMENTS! (was Re: Really Strong Stuff)
Organization: MOTOROLA 
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:58:19 GMT

In article <17548@umd5.umd.edu> silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver) writes:
> In article <28537@oasys.dt.navy.mil> kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)  
writes:
> 
> >There are two kinds of people on the net:
> >Those who know what they are talking about and
> >Those who want you to think they know what they are talking about
> >The difficult part is discerning between the two.
> >
> >Just some comic relief.............
> 
> Brain,
> 
> 	If you kept up on the posts, you'd see I do know what I'm talking
> about.  I've read the same studies that Chuq has, but I didn't have the
> literature in front of me.  I most certainly do know what I'm talking about.
> I don't BULLSHIT.  I give accurate and true information that's to the point
> with no BULLSHIT!
> 
> I'm not laughing.
> 
> 							-Adam

Adam-

I think Brian's point was that anyone can SAY they know what they are
talking about.  Frankly, with all this crappy posting you have been doing
to boost your ego on the network you are losing credibility real fast.
Now, chill out... I've been ingnoring these SUPPLEMENTS! posts for the
past few days because of all the BULLSHIT they contain.

Steve

> 
> -- 
>      **********************************************************************
>      *               Adam Silver    Powerlifter/Armwrestler               *
>      *           silver@umd5.umd.edu    University of Maryland            *
>      **********************************************************************

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____________________________________________________________________________
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Motorola GSS Cellular Infrastructure Group - Ft. Worth Research & Development
____________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: rlopez@loanstar.tamu.edu (Robert Lopez)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: alright, darnit
Date: 18 Dec 1992 15:29:47 GMT
Organization: The Hosequarium South
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: loanstar.tamu.edu
Keywords: eat more moose

Ok guys...for those of you with the "75% of supplements are crap"
attitude, wouldja drop some hints as to which 25% percent you
think are valuable?

Chromium aside, please, I think we've beaten that one to death.

Adam S. started this thread with a couple of product recommendations.
I like that kind of info.  Chuq let us know (sorta) what he feels
is valuable.

Let's talk POSITIVES
Let's talk NAMES

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Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: Harley Myler <hrm@engr.ucf.edu>
Subject: Re: Pulse Monitors
X-Xxdate: Fri, 18 Dec 92 20:22:59 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Central Florida
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:19:18 GMT

Pulse Monitors

I recently purchased a cheap ($20) monitor at Service Merchandise 
(jewelry, electronics "catalog" store) in the shape of a heart with 
an LCD readout and neck lanyard. It uses an IR sensor that you put
your finger over. Two modes, time and heart rate. A large button
puts it in heart rate mode and you get a continuous display with
a blinking heart symbol and beep with heart rate. It takes a few
seconds to register accurately. For twenty bucks you can't beat
it! <<--har har

I keep it hanging on my lifecycle's handlebars. I used to have a
heart rate watch (not a casio) that was a royal pain to use--
particularly while cycling!
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: fogarty@sir-c.jpl.nasa.gov (Tim Fogarty)
Subject: Re: Tan for the winter
Organization: JPL, Shuttle Imaging Radar Software Group
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 00:41:47 GMT


In article <1992Dec18.142835.21035@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>, 
olevin@random.hwr.arizona.edu (Oscar Levin) writes:
|>    I'm memeber of a club that have several tanning beds. Is there
|>    some kind of danger using this thing for
|>    tanning? (beside skin cancer). Is the tan the
|>    same that you will have under natural conditions?

There have been many scientific articles published recently showing that
UV light, especially from tanning beds, does affect one's immune 
system. (Th1, or was it Th2 ?  Anyway, its the LC/DC cells.)

Those with immune problems should not use tanning beds, or spend
all day in the sun without using a good sunblock.

--
Tim Fogarty
Sys Man and Sys Admin for the EGSE in the POCC at JSC for SRL-1, STS-59
FOGARTY@SIR-C.JPL.NASA.GOV
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: an2072@anon.penet.fi
Subject: IDEA Convention 1993
X-Anonymously-To: misc.fitness
Organization: Anonymous contact service
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:54:41 GMT

Does anyone have any info on the next Fitness Profession IDEA
Convention 1993?  I think it's sometime in July, but don't know
the location.

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From: billb@crpmks.uucp (Bill Bochnik (Info Systems))
Subject: Re: Fat Bannnanas (was: Re: Need to improve endurence FAST)
Reply-To: billb@crpmks.UUCP (Bill Bochnik (Info Systems))
Organization: Ciba-Geigy Corporation
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 16:57:09 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.152220.24541@kth.se> TordM@VanA.PhySto.SE writes:
>In article <1g7f3kINN8ng@thor.genrad.com>, rep@thor.genrad.com (Pete Peterson) writes:
>
>>According to "Composition of Foods" USDA Handbook #8 form section on
>>"Composition of Foods, 100 Grams, Edible Portion":
>>100 gm of bannana has 75.7 g water, 85 Calories, 1.1 g Protein, 0.2g Fat,
>>22.2g Carbohydrates (0.5 g Fiber).
>
>85 calories? I'm sure you mean 85 thousand calories,
>else you're banana would be totally non-energetic. it's a common fault
>to say calories instead of kilo-calories. I read a banana has 104kcal,
>but 85kcal sounds okay too. I also read that it has 0.5g fat and 23.5g
>carbonhydrates -- sounds okay too.
>but 3.4g fibers, and this last one puzzles me, so the recomended need
>per day is 30g.. is this somewhat the same figure as you have?
>
>
>
>


Confusion between Calorie and calorie, maybee?

-- 
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philabs!crpmks!billb		| It's worse than that, he's dead Jim.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: sfjr@wam.umd.edu (Steve Russell)
Subject: Re: Max Heart Rate?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:01:44 GMT

In article <1gsolvINN355@rave.larc.nasa.gov> bandwen@eagle.larc (bando) writes:
>How does one figure out his/her maximum heart rate?
> Thanks,
>    bando
>
>

Method 1:  220 - your age = max heart rate.  For aerobic improvement
           exercise between 60 -85percent of the max ( ie .60xmax )

Method 2:  220 -your age - resting pulse = max rate.

I dont know which is preffered but the results are similar.  Generally,
if you are out of shape stay at the lower end of your training range
to maximize fat burning.

I like to divide my "max percents" by ten so I can use a 6 sec pulse.
You'll be suprised how fast your pulse will drop after you get in shape

Steve R

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: glex@nitro.cray.com (Jeff Gleixner)
Subject: IRONMAN: bench how to question.. Serious inquiries only
Originator: glex@nitro
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:03:57 CST


(I don't have the article with me so bear with me...)

If anyone read the latest (Jan.) edition and understands the part about
doing a "Pec" bench press by rolling your shoulders under and pressing
them down..(something like that)  Could you explain to me how to do this
without an excessive arch in the back?  

In case you're wondering, the article talks about different exercises for
the pecs and the author says that his front delts and lower pecs are wonderful
but he doesn't have good all around pecs.  He says that Perillio(sp?) told 
him that he was a "delt presser" and to becomre a "pec presser" he has to set up
the ?? (rib cage) girdle so the bench press will work the pecs more.  I've
tried this, because I'm in the same boat, but have yet to figure it out.

So if anyone actually can explain the "correct" way to bench to put more
stress on the pecs, besides a wider grip and incline/decline, please clue 
me in.  I've been hitting the iron for many years so don't give me any 
BULLSHIT ;-D...

Thanks
-- 
glex@nitro.cray.com  === "Difficult tasks are never easy..."
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: crg@rocky.raleigh.ibm.com (Chuck Grissom)
Subject: Re: Bodybuilding: Is three days enough?
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:01:00 GMT
Organization: IBM, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina
Keywords: mass, weights

Greg:

I agree with pretty much everything you've said, but I didn't suggest that one
should continue the 20-rep squat program beyond the six weeks.  I just wanted
to give the guy a place to start and assumed that he would read further or
get further advice in the meantime to help hime decide what to do next.

As for me, I'm probably pretty close to you in philosophy.  I usually use the
"standard" 3 days on, one day off routine.  After several weeks, I'll try
a "hardgainer" routine, like the 20-rep squat routine, to get out of a rut.
After I finished the six week program I described before, I took 10 days or so
off and went back to my standard routine.  Of course, I still add weight on a
regular basis, but certainly not on every workout.  And I don't do lots and
lots of sets, preferring to apply the high-intensity approach.  I do basic *and*
isolation work in this routine.  I have also tried, with success, to apply
powerlifting-type cycling schemes to the basic lifts in my 3-day routine (i.e.
bench presses and squats.)  Although I pretty much stick to the same basic
exercises, I like to change the isolation work frequently to keep from getting
stagnant.

One thing I have found (like you, it seems) is that a lot of things will work
for a short while, but nothing works forever.  You have to keep watching,
listening, reading, and trying in order to keep progressing.

Keep pumpin'!

Chuck Grissom
crg@vnet.ibm.com
72227.2715@compuserve.com
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: schneid@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike Schneider)
Subject: fast-twitch versus slow-twitch?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 04:37:48 GMT

I intend to start working out to improve my strength (and overall fitness)
for playing volleyball.  I imagine there are 2 ways to lift weights:
low number of repetitions at high weight and high number of reps at a
low weight (or something in the middle).

I've heard that low repititions at high weight can slow down the
fast-twitch muscles.  I want to be sure not to do anything detrimental
to my fast-twitch muscles while improving overall strength.  Should
I do a high number of reps at low weight then?

Actually, you could just tell me the difference between the benefits
from lifting low reps of high weight and high reps of low weight.


-- 
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Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: mds5142@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.D. Shepherd)
Subject: Re: Really Strong Stuff
Originator: mds5142@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 04:12:12 GMT

In article <75581@apple.apple.COM> chuq@Apple.COM (Eeyore's Evil Twin) writes:
>silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver) writes:
>
>>WAIT!!  Are they talking about Chromium Chloride or Picolinate or GTF?
>>Hmmm...  I think Chromium Chloride.
>
>
>Most of the studies today are being done with Chromium Picolinate, which is
>taken up by the body something like 3-5X more effectively than the Chromium
>in GTF. Most other Chromiums are biologically pretty inert. From all
>indications, if you're going to supplement with Chromium, it ought to be
>Picolinate.

I've heard a lot about Chromium Picolinate recently especially on TV and
in the newspaper.  They say it tends to prolong life (but I never really
got an understanding of how).  I was wondering what foods you get this
from, and for taking supplements, I've never seen this in any drug store
to buy it off the shelf.  Does anybody have any info about Chromium
Picolinate.  I may just be way off base... :)

Thanks,
Mike
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From: almo@usops.EBay.Sun.COM (Alan Monday-USCS Operations)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Do sit-ups make you thicker?
Date: 18 Dec 1992 18:03:17 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: almo@usops.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: usops.ebay.sun.com


The program I follow in Arnie's Encyclopedia warns against that.

The idea is to train your stomach for endurance not strength.  I do:

Mon. Wed. Fri.
-----------
100 bent leg lifts
75 crunches,  lifting the *pelvis*, not the shoulders, with feet on a wall or bench
100 bent pole twists,  knees together, DON'T move the hips, crunch the obliques.

I will soon be moving to:
150
100
150

Tues. Thurs. Sat
------------
100 leg lifts
100 situps- these are done w/hands clasped in front, NOT behind the neck, knees
	bent.  After 50 or so, cheat by holding lightly to the side of thighs.
	Chin is tucked.  Start the movement from up to down.  Go down only
	until the middle of the back is on the floor.  Crunch at the top until
	chest hit the knees.  Never relax the stomach.

moving to:
150
150

The idea is to have small, tight stomach, oblique muscles.



In article 2199@u.washington.edu, hhll@stein.u.washington.edu (Steven Hodas) writes:
>I remember reading somewhere that conventional sit-ups actually serve to
>thicken your waist, rather than trim it. Does this make sense?
>
>Steven




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