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From: impster@ais.org (Charles Budensiek)
Subject: Re: **EA's Ultrasound Orders**
Organization: UMCC
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 08:06:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.034416.5905@CS.ORST.EDU> valhert@mist.CS.ORST.EDU (valhert) writes:
>Hi Everyone,
>
>
>Does anyone else that ordered there Gravis Ultrasound know when
>EA will be sending it out?  Will we be receiving it this week?
>Thanks.
>
>Valery

Welp, I called them the other day <Saturday the 10th>, here's the
conversation:

"Yes, I ordered the Gravis ultrasound and I am curious when it will be
shipped."

(EA) : "By the end of next week," pause for a second or two, "we hope."


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: jon@chopin.udel.edu (Jon Deutsch)
Subject: Re: THE GRAVIS ULTRASOUND
Organization: University of Delaware - What state is that in?
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:06:12 GMT

In article <bjornhk.17.718975725@dhhalden.no> bjornhk@dhhalden.no (BJORN HAAVARD KLEVEN) writes:
|>In article <1992Oct12.171112.14657@lclark.edu> harrison@lclark.edu (Mark Harrison) writes:
|>
|>What's so great about the GUS? 
|>
|>- The GUS has *32* sample channels (as opposed to the PAS & SB Pro's 2) wich 
|>  can be used all at the same time, both for recording and playing


	OK- here's the first nab:  What is a sample channel?
	Does the GUS have 32 ocillators?  Any filters?
	It still only has 2 DACs right?
	Do tell!

|>- The GUS has up to 1 MB of Audio RAM, which will free up system memory and 
|>  speed up operations

	1MB of RAM isn't really all that much if you're talking
	16bit 44Mhz samples.  Not much at all.  And forget stereo.

|>- In adition, of course, all the features that the other boards also got, 
|>  but the GUS offers at a LOWER PRICE!

	The price seems nice, I admit.  I just want to get the
	specs in my head.

|>That's what all the fuzz is about!

	Define fuzz and then we'll see.

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From: ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran)
Subject: Re: THE GRAVIS ULTRASOUND
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 05:51:29 GMT

In article <PJA.92Oct10130421@lk-hp-10.hut.fi> pja@lk-hp-10.hut.fi (Petri Juhani Jarre) writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.135511.19254@b11.b11.ingr.com> ross@kaos.b11.ingr.com (Ross Erickson) writes:
>>   sound files all day long.  So, it needs a daughtercard to record
>>   16-bit.  Big deal.  Again, marketing fluff.  How many really need to
>>   record at 44.1KHz??  Precious few.  Why?  DISK SPACE!!  The standard
>
>16bit 44KHz sampling and playback or no sound card at all. Just a
>personal opinion. Won't buy a soundcard for games only. Won't buy a
>soundcard if it can't be used with games. Won't by a card if I can't
>listen to it before buying, touch it before buying and buy it without
>having to wait for the next shipment. What's left? PAS-16? But for the
>time being there are more urgent purchases. Later, maybe, the GUS (and
>others) qualify as well.
>

If you want 16bit 44kHz digital audio, why would you choose a PAS-16 
over the Ultrasound?  The PAS has a couple of DACs.  The GUS has DACs
(how many?  beats me.) but it also has the hardware to drive these
DACs independently from the CPU.  Buying the 16-bit recording 
daughtercard for the GUS would still probably not raise the total cost
higher than the cost of the PAS-16.  As for games, the SB emulation
seems to be quite adequate until true GUS support arrives.

Phat.
From: blave@netcom.com (David W. Blevins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: What is wrong with Roland Corp??
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:39:04 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

Roland is not necessarily in the PC multimedia / game card biz.  Maybe
it's not in their charter to try to compete with SB, PAS, etc...  They
just happen to make MUSICAL things like the SCC-1, etc. that blows every
thing else away.  And no, I haven't heard the GUS yet.        

What's wrong with getting a Thunderboard or something similar for the
digitized audio stuff and use an LAPC-1, MT32, SCC-1, or the like for
music?

Blave.
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From: astlc@acad2.alaska.edu (Tom Claydon)
Subject: C source examples of .WAV sound through SB?
Organization: Anarchy Incorporated
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:27:15 GMT

 Greetings! I'm looking for C source code examples of digitized sound
(.WAV) playback through a SoundBlaster. I've seen several examples of this
in assembly - anyone have an example or two in C?

 Thanks!

-- 
Tom Claydon, Electronics Tech.
University of Alaska Anchorage
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From: edhall@rand.org (Ed Hall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: DSP on disk recordings
Keywords: xxx
Date: 8 Oct 92 02:06:39 GMT
Organization: RAND Corporation.

In article <1992Oct7.235615.12303@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> kevin@dipl.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com writes:
>johnf@scd.hp.com (John Flowers) writes:
>
>>>Ok, now that I have a PAS 16, I would like to record something, then
>>>play it back pitch shifted but with the same tempo.  This would require
>>>some sort of digital signal processing.
>
>>Look for some code that'll do a fourier transform on your sound sample.
>>That'll switch it from time-domain to frequency-domain.  Once you're in
>>the frequency-domain, changing pitch is a snap.  Then another fourier
>>transform and you're back to a time-domain sample.  (This is as I
>>understand it from my Systems class - I've never done this)

It isn't quite as easy as this.  You need to capture time as well as
frequency information.  Thus you need to do a series of fourier transforms.
Changing pitch isn't exactly a snap, though, since keeping the correct
phase information from one FFT to the next is necessary to allow
successive frames to match up.  Windowing the input and overlapping the
frames is a good idea.

What I've just described is called a "phase vocoder".

>A faster, and cheaper, way of doing it would be to record at 1 particular
>sampling rate, then play back at another.  You wouldn't, though, keep
>the same tempo.

I don't think the original poster was intested in this.

>BTW: an FFT would not preserve tempo.

Why would an FFT-based technique not preserve tempo?  A phase vocoder
allows independent control of pitch and tempo.  It has some downsides:
absolute phase information is lost, which adds a somewhat reverberant
quality to certain sounds, and it is about as CPU-intensive as one can
imagine.  It won't run in real-time, even on a 50MHz '486.

There are less general methods of pitch-shifting which are better-suited
for some purposes.  One of these, commonly used with individual
instruments, is to figure out the fundamental frequency of the sound and
snip out or duplicate individual cycles, followed by playback at
a higher or lower sample rate, respectively.  This technique needs
much less CPU power and doesn't affect the ambience of the sound.
But it only works with single sounds of well-defined pitch, like a
singing voice, a wind instrument, or a single guitar string.  And
the algorithms used tend to be proprietary in nature.

		-Ed Hall
		edhall@rand.org
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From: markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARC PAULIN)
Subject: Re: GUS = SB-PRO
Organization: Universite de Moncton
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:14:28 GMT

In article <rock.719096127@kaa> rock@kaa.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Jan-Oliver Rock) writes:
>From: rock@kaa.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Jan-Oliver Rock)
>Subject: GUS = SB-PRO
>Date: 14 Oct 92 20:55:27 GMT

>Hi Folks!

> Does the TSR that comes with the GUS emulate SB-PRO?
> 
> Someone in the group said DOS modplayers were very slow on his
> 386dx-25. Has anyone tried on faster machines, e.g. 386dx-40 or
> 486dx/sx-25 ?


	I have a 286 16MHz and MODplay 2.19 works like a charm with my GUS 
and SBOS loaded normally.  I don't have any speed problems.

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From: jholdern@casper.cs.uct.ac.za (J E Holderness)
Subject: Re: .MOD question
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Cape Town
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:29:16 GMT

In <1992Oct7.172322.17893@ra.msstate.edu> wrp1@ra.msstate.edu (William R. Payton) writes:


>Is there any program that can extract samples in .mod files and convert them
>to .voc files or some other format?


I have a program that extracts samples from mod files, and store them in a 
format supported by my mod editor (MFED). I also have a program that converts
between that format, and various others (VOC, WAV, etc). Bit of a slow way
of doing things, but if you're desperate...

The first program is called RIPMOD, and the second SCONV. Don't know where
you can get hold of them, but if you don't find a better solution, I can
upload to wuarchive.

- Jim
From: bobe@tv.tv.tek.com (Bob Elkind)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: help with PAS-16 install
Keywords: PAS16 PAS-16 proaudio mediavision
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:25:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: tvnews.1992Oct8.172517.14988
Distribution: na
Organization: Tektronix TV Products, Beaverton, OR

I need help.  I've tried to install two different PAS-16s in a 486/33 clone,
and the machine won't boot AT ALL!  Does this sound familiar?  MediaVision
tech support is too jammed to reach directly.  They call back, but if you
aren't in when they call, sorry...

Keep in mind that the system won't pass power-on self-test, so config.sys and
autoexec.bat contents are not an issue...

sysytem hardware:  486/33 clone with UMC chipset, AMI BIOS, 256K cache,
  32 MB ram, ZOOM v.32bis internal modem (com2), serial/parallel/game card
  for lpt1 and com1, IDE hard/floppy disk card w/ 2 IDE drives installed,
  and ATI VGA Wonder video card.

If I remove the modem and serial/parallel IO card, I can sometimes get
the machine to boot, but the keyboard (!) usually locks up after 10 or
so keypresses.  Sometimes the system boots but the keyboard doesn't work
at all.

With all the hardware installed, the power on self test (POST) either hangs
in RAM test, or complains about a keyboard failure, or plain hangs before
even setting up the display.  I have tried setting the BIOS parameters to
slowest possible CPU speed (~8 MHz) and IO bus speed (~6 MHz), same results.

Thanks in advance...
  Bobe Elkind   bobe@tv.tv.tek.com
From: ry01@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ROBERT YUNG)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: THE GRAVIS ULTRASOUND
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:56:28 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <Bw5J2C.4CA@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>, ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat
H Tran) writes:

>- All the resampling and mixing is done in hardware.  In comparison, the
>  PAS's and SB's (Pro's, -16's, and whatnot) sport only dumb DACs.  To
>  play songs using sampled instruments (eg. a MOD) through dumb DACs
>  requires the software to mix and resample.  All this work can chew up
>  quite a lot of CPU time.
>
>Phat.
>
Are you _sure_ all the mixing is done in hardware? What does the GUS have for
brains? Don't you still need the host CPU to tell the board what kind of sound
it wants? BTW, do you own a GUS yet?
-- 
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       \___(Robert) Bobby Yung_______RY01@Lehigh.Edu___/
From: ken@batman.austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Good GUS price (Re: Where to buy Ultrasound?)
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:07:20 GMT
Reply-To: ken@austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach)
Organization: IBM Austin, TX

Well, call me crazy, but I ordered a GUS today.

:-)

I tried two places:

-DISK-COUNT SOFTWARE
	-phone: 1-800-448-6658
	-price: $129.00
	-shipping: $4.00
 Comments: They are shipping via Airborne Express, not UPS!

-TELEMART
	-phone: 1-800-392-4429
	-price: $124.00
	-shipping: didn't ask
 Comments: They told me "probably $124.00" but were not sure. They
 	   would *not* lock in the price even if you order! :-(


I went ahead and got it from DISK-COUNT since they assured me that
they would hold that price for my order. So for $133.00, I'll get
a GUS shipped Airborne Express (and should get it overnight). I figured
I'd rather not order from TELEMART since they won't lock the price:
if it goes up to, say $140, I'd be pissed.

YOUR MILEAGE MAY VARY!

Oddly, Telemart said the card would be available Oct. 21st, and Disk-
Count said it hadn't yet been approved by the FCC! But then again, the
GUS rumor mill is always chock full of interesting mis-infomration, so
I'm not holding my breath or anything.

ANYBODY KNOW WHEN THIS THING COMES OUT IN THE US?!?!?!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.os.os2.apps
From: jimh@pacdata.uucp (Jim Harkins)
Subject: Re: Sound cards for OS/2
Organization: Pacific Data Products
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:40:46 GMT

In article <RZHJsB1w165w@billapc.UUCP> baustin@billapc.UUCP (Bill Austin) writes:
-mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green) writes:
-
-> What sound cards are supported under OS/2?
-
-I have a SB-Pro and the only peep that I've heard from it while running
-OS/2
-Under a Dos windows or a full Screen Dos session the plyaback quality
-of .mods dropped to below my threshhold for listening.

Parrot also won't work under OS/2.  However, Falcon 3.0 with a soundblaster
sounds pretty good :-)  No voices tho :-(

jim


-- 
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greatly outnumbered by voters without brains, yet somehow the
intelligent fail to perceive that not everybody thinks the way they do,
thus they fail to argue persuasively for their points and then are
surprised when the majority makes dumb choices.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: "yuri lee" <yuri.lee@canrem.com>
Subject: the gravis ultrasound
Reply-To: "yuri lee" <yuri.lee@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 13 Oct 92 01:11:09 EST

What makes GUS interesting is its sound quality of synthesizer output.
I agree it would've been nicer if they had everything built into the
card from the beginning but the fact is that not all the people need
that stuff ( 16 bit sampling, SCSI ). Sure, some people use them and
need them. What kind of idiot would buy a PAS-16 if all he wants is a
sound card ?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: ckl@dec3.ncku.edu.tw (ckl)
Subject: Mac -> SB
Organization: NCKU Tainan Taiwan 
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Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 03:22:47 GMT
From: ketrenoj@ucs.orst.edu (Lord Logics)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: THE GRAVIS ULTRASOUND
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:30:54 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services - OSU

] From: ry01@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ROBERT YUNG)
] 
] >- All the resampling and mixing is done in hardware. 
] Are you _sure_ all the mixing is done in hardware? What does the GUS have
] brains? Don't you still need the host CPU to tell the board what kind of 
] it wants? BTW, do you own a GUS yet?
] -- 

... yes, u still need to tell the GUS what *kind* of sound u want, however,
the CPU doesn't have to take care of mixing to create the sound.  ok, to
give you an example:

a mod file is compossed of 4 channels.  each channel has its own pattern to
follow in what it will play.  this pattern consists of telling what note to
play, and what instrument to use, etch.  this part will still need to be
done by the CPU.  HOWEVER, this is hardly cpu intensive AT ALL, and is
equivelant of FM players. 

the next part is more cpu intensive.  the program running has to first find
out what byte of a sample to play (adjusting for current pitch) for each of
the four channels, and it then has to mix the four channels, and then output
that to the sound source.  this process has to be done between 8,000 times
and 22,000 times PER SECOND, depending on the quality of music you want. 

the previous part, of parsing the patterns, only needs to be done around, oh
at MAX i would say 32 times per second (for a VERY fast song... perhaps 64
times)...

with the Sound Blaster and PAS and all of the other straight DAC cards, the
second part has to be done by the CPU.  w/ the gravis, it is done by the
hardware, leaving the CPU free.  PLUS, the gravis supports up to 32 channels
of this, instead of just 4.  this gives the potential for KILLER sounding
music.

questions, comments, flames, or whatever can be sent to me.  i'm bored and
my mailbox is always empty... 

and no, i don't have a gus, am on a SB myself...

l8r-
James
ketrenoj@ucs.orst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: ehammers@stein.u.washington.edu (Alison Blais)
Subject: Re: Disney Sound Source Driver for Windows 3.1
Keywords: sound source
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:50:26 GMT

In article <81703@ut-emx.uucp> viny@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (vinay pulim) writes:
>A while back, someone posted a message about having a Disney Sound Source 
>driver for Windows.  I built a simple D/A converter that plugs into the
>parallel 
>port and since its almost compatible with the Disney Sound Source it
>should work
>with the driver. Can you tell me where I could get a copy of it?
>
>

The Windows 3.1 driver for Sound Source is available on ftp.cica.indiana.edu
as /pub/pc/win3/sounds/sndsrc.zip.

Erick.
From: jld@datascope.com (Jay L. Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Gravis Comments/Questions
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:29:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: datascop.1992Oct12.172947.16878
Distribution: na
Organization: Datascope Corp.

Now that the Gravis Ultrasound is out, I expect to see a log of feedback
from people. I have no doubt that Wave Table Synthesis sounds much
better than FM synthesis. I also have no doubt that a software emulator
for the Sound Blaster just isn't going to work to well. So the following
questions come to mind:

Are there any major design or manufacturing flaws in the board (noise or
     compatability problems)?
How is the memory on board being used (just for tables, etc.)?
What does filling the board to 1 Meg buy me (better samples I assume)?
Can I add the memory myself (easily, not surface mounted)?
How many and what valid IRQs and DMAs are allowed?
Will it peacfully co-exist with my Soundblaster (when the emulator doesn't
    work well, or at all)?
Are Windows drivers included?
When will OS/2 drivers be available (if at all, maybe even included)?
What are the other major sound board manufacturers doing to counter
    this product?

---Jay Davis
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: gting@fraser.sfu.ca (Gabriel Sii Kuok Ting)
Subject: Re: Questions for Gravis Ultra owners
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:56:48 GMT

hsiaoe@aix.rpi.edu (Eric Hsiao) writes:

>To everyone who already got their Gravis Ultrasounds from Software Alley in
>Vancouver, I have a few questions that maybe you guys might be able to answer.

>How well shielded is the board?  The SB/SBPro is pretty bad, the PAS +/16
>is decent.  Do you hear any harddrive or video noise with the GUS?  Try using
>headphones if you can't tell from your speakers.
Haven't tried the headphones yet. In fact, I won't even try it on my headphones
unless I get one with its own volume control. One thing I sorely miss on the
GUS is the volume knob... The default volume settings are just too bloody
loud when played through the 2W amps and my poor Koss speakers...
Back to the question. Blasting the GUS midi files through my JVC amp and
Bose speakers revealed no distortion or outside interference. At least none 
that was as distinguishable as my old SB.. The SB emulation also sounded
pretty clean to me....


>Does it require a free IRQ & DMA setting?  If so, how many does it need
>and which ones can it use?  Do you think this card can co-exist with a
>PAS-16?
Can't really remember off hand, but the default settings is that the MIDI IRQ
(used in the SB emulation mode) is at IRQ5, DMA 1, the GF1 DAC IRQ7 and two 
other parameters I can't rememeber. PAS-16? Doubt so....


>                          - Eric
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From: smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~)
Subject: sb16=roland!!
Originator: smintz@alamo
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:35:27 GMT


I just Dave at creative Tech support, he said the sb16 is lapc
compatable...Fantastic...It is worth the wait now!!!
Stephen
From: rlee@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Ralph Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: GRAVIS ULTRASOUND - WHAT COMES WITH IT - FOR ALL THE LUCKY DIDES
Date: 8 Oct 1992 13:37:23 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au

Yeah...not everyone lives in Vancouver B.C. ya know!!!

Can someone tell us exactly comes witht the package...esp drivers and
software....is there any OS/2 support????

Thanks...

Ralph
rlee@tartarus.uwa.edu.au

From: roger@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Roger Petersen)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:53:33 GMT
Subject: Re: Soundblaster 2.0 and Space Q 1 (VGA)
Organization: MID, Home of the Happy Dinosaurs
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard, David Haigh <dhaigh@actrix.gen.nz> writes:

| Solution:
|
| Toggle the speed of your machine down for startup. Then once it has
| initialised the sb, toggle back up. After that, it should work fine.
|
| Comments anyone???

I've heard several people say that this works, and others say it doesn't.

It didn't work for me.

One person said to run a cache-disable program during boot-up, and it works.
I haven't tried that yet.

Which driver installation is timing sensitive?  SBFMDRV?

Roger Petersen
roger@sr.hp.com

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