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Subject: Allo Allo finally finishes 
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:19:04 +0000


In article <C0AD56.HH0@newcastle.ac.uk> w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk writes:

> Like the other series written by Perry and Croft it had a proper ending,

>      Hi-Di-Hi  = the holiday camp shut down
                       *******
                       
>      Are you being served = the store closed down (?)

Only to re-open as an hotel! Ugh!!!

>      It Ain't Half Hot Mum = World War 2 ended and the troops came home
>      Dad's Army = ????????????????????
>                     I've no idea how this one ended.

Same was as IAHHM. The war ended!

> Because of the way they ended Allo Allo it looks like it definitely will
> not have any type of sequel series.  both Are YOu Being SErved and Dad's 
> Army had sequels.

Are You Being Served does have a sequel unfortunately. Dad's Army never had
a (real) sequel though wasn't there a radio show that feature a FEW of the
characters.

The reason that Allo, Allo finished was that Gordon Kaye wanted to quit
playing the character. So what's he doing now? Playing Rene in Daily Mirror
adverts.

Regards, Trevor.

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From: EEC@PORTIA.UMDS.LON.AC.UK (Steve P (eec@portia.umds.lon.ac.uk))
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Subject: RE: ANNA LEE: HEAD CASE
Date: 11 Jan 1993 05:29:21 -0600
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> From: u0g78@keele.ac.uk (Martin Steed)
> Subject: Anna Lee: Headcase
> 
> So then, what did people think of this? Since it was up against Gallowglass
> on BBC1 I don't know how many will have watched either.
> 
> Anyway, I thought it was all right, although very predictable. We managed to
> guess nearly everything that would happen quite early on, so if it does make
> it to a full series, I hope they come up with some better stories...

As it happens, she lives in the same house in Colville Square (near
Portobello Rd/Ladbroke Grove) that I used to when I was a student. They
were mostly short-life properties back then....

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From: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
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Subject: Sci-Fi on UK telly...
Date: 5 Jan 93 11:34:03 GMT
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Organization: University of Durham

Apart from QL, there doesn't appear to be any at the moment.

Does anyone know if there are any plans for BBC or ITV to bring over Deep Space Nine, Time
Trax, Space Rangers or Babylon 5?

I saw some clips from DSN and B5 the other day on CNN and was very impressed.

Perhaps we should start a letter writing campaign to the Beeb, they sure are not
satisfying this license payer's wants out of Telly.

Scott


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Subject: Re: Drop the Dead Donkey - Jan 7, 1993
Date: 9 Jan 93 00:37:52 GMT
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Does anyone know the Essex joke involving the orangutan??

L.
From: markc@compnews.co.uk (Mark Cooper)
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Subject: Re: Come back Thames all is forgiven!
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:18:09 GMT
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As it is, ITV companies already sell programmes to other ITV stations - and, for that matter, BBC. For example, the BBC prog "What the Papers Say" is a Granada production.
  For Thames, who had plans for remaining as an independent producer, they will have to sell to the network to make any money at all (tho' they *do* have part shares in UK Gold, along with the Beeb)

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Subject: Re: Contacting the ITC 
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In article <C0Fwn5.ps@newcastle.ac.uk> S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk writes:

>I wish to make a few dozen complaints to the ITC, anyone have their address
> handy?
>
Indepentant Television Commission,
70 Brompton Road,
LONDON SW3 1EY

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From: mcramm@dct.ac.uk (McRamm)
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Subject: Re: new beeb gameshow - VR
Date: 6 Jan 93 13:29:42 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <zlsiida.667@fs1.mcc.ac.uk>, zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd) writes:
> In article <1993Jan5.154051.571@mfltd.co.uk> dnh@mfltd.co.uk (Des Herriott) writes:
>>In article <C0DqCI.95J@newcastle.ac.uk>, S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre) writes:
>>> Anyone else catch that new VR based gameshow on Beeb 2 last night...Lister (Craig Charles)
>>> was the host.  Had a couple of footballers on one team (don't know who they were, don't
>>> follow the sport) and some normalish people on the other.
> Normalish?  Members of The Dangerous Sports Club?  Well I suppose they think 
> they're normal....
>>> It was a bit annoying with the hooting in the audiance, but the premise was good.
>>Yeah, I caught it.  It wasn't bad, but I'd have liked to have seen more 
>>out n' out action and less of that tedious puzzle solving.  (or at least
>>some less tedious puzzles :-)
> Right.
> Dump the guy doing the over-fancy game descriptions - Craig had to expalin 
> it again anyway.  Improve the 'view': eg I'd have the video wall just for 
> the audience, and put the player into a real VR headset.  And I'd split the 
> broadcast screen into at least quarters so we could see various aspects 
> simultaneously - like one segment could be a copy of the VR headset, one a 
> standard shot of the studio, one a copy of the map, etc.

As far as I could see, the whole show was a poorly thought-out near-copy of "The
Crystal Maze" with elements of "Games Master" thrown in. Presumably they 
decided to use pseudo-VR 'cos it's cheaper than building real rooms.

IMHO the Cyrstal Maze is preferable (but then I get a kick out of watching
actuaries completely fail to grasp the problem in the first 30 seconds he he
he), especially with Richard O'Brien as host. Craig Charles is *completely*
unsuitable for this type of show since he just can't stop taking the mickey out
of the contestants and the game itself.


BRING BACK THE ADVENTURE GAME (series 1).

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From: rsoc@doc.ic.ac.uk (Rob O'Connor)
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Subject: Re: Come back Thames all is forgiven!
Date: 7 Jan 1993 10:34:10 -0000
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In article <1iflk9INN5v5@access.usask.ca> maton@herald.usask.ca writes:
>From article <1if5vjINN8d6@cardamom.compnews.co.uk>, by markc@compnews.co.uk (Mark Cooper):
>> OK, here goes, the list of the ITV/Breakfast TV/Teletext franchise changeovers are as follows:
>> 
>> Thames			--->		Carlton
>> TSW			--->		Westcountry
>> TVS			--->		Meridian
>> TVAM			--->		GMTV
>> Oracle Teletext		--->		Teletext on 3/Teletext on 4
>> --
>
>So what happens to the companies and their employees who lost frachises?
>For instance, there is a quite large TVS studio complex near where my mother
>lives in Maidstone. 
>
>Terry

Most likely they'll continue making programmes with less staff! Basically
our wonderful (sic) Government decided that the broadcasters had a monopoly
on the programmes being made, so they decided to set a maximum level of 
programs that could be broadcast by the franchise holder. I live near Thames 
Television in Teddington, who also lost their franchise. The studios will remain
either used by Thames to carry on making the more popular programs, or to
be let to other independents. 
The result of all this is that all companies (even the current franchise
holders) have a good excuse to cut back on staff, and all the programme
makers who get sacked become one-man program making companies (they are not
happy about this because they lose the services that used to exist within the
large corporations). 
So the upshot is that there's lots of companies making one or two programmes
each, so each company will want the few programs they make to succeed, so
they'll all make popular programs - down go standards as more gameshows 
enter the arena.

One other interesting fact - LWT split into two last year. They created 
London Studios as their program making facility, and LWT is a company
who use those facilities. Two other companies who also use the same facility
are GMTV and Carlton. There is not an insubstantial amount of involvement
between the management of these three companies. In fact LWT has a large
share in GMTV at least. So much for competition!

Rob. 

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From: nrp@csug3.cs.reading.ac.uk ("Experimental convalescent bacon acne" Neilski)
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Subject: Re: Gladiators
Date: 12 Jan 93 09:44:04 GMT
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esi001@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Dicky-Jim) writes:

>What did anyone else think of that Review/behind the scenes proggy on Saturday, 

I enjoyed it - I only watched the first Gladiators but this was far more
interesting.  I had thought that the gladiators had been training for
months but they only got in a week before the contenders!

>I think that most of the gladiators would have been better off if they had kept
>their mouths shut ..... and what's WOLF playing at , I saw him being interviewed
>on Going Live last year and he was a really nice guy ..... all that grunting
>didn't make him sound *HARD* it just made him appear an illiterate dork.

Whatsisface who was counting Hawk's bench presses was trying his best to
be natural - not bad, but he did have some pretty stilted dialogue to say!

>Shame is it's moving from the NIA to Wembley so I doubt I'll
>go .... why are they moving ..... surely if the NIA can't accomodate the show
>the NEC must be big enough.?

Perhaps Wembley has bigger doors!

>					A JET fan ( who isn't ???? )

Seconded!

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From: api053@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Garion)
Subject: Re: What is Teletext 3/4?
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:56:06 GMT

In article <1ih6fdINNt6k@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> martin.baines@uk.sun.com writes:
>
>They certainly have on Anglia.
>
>Also the local Anglia News program is now subtitled. They made a big
>splash about this before the service started. This must be
>non-trivial thing for them to do: About Anglia is devided into 2
>services: one for the East, one for the West of the region
>(although I believe both services are actually broadcast
>from the Norwich studios). Mind you I still feel that Anglia
>is where old broadcasters go to die, and BBC East where they
>break in the fresh faced youths :-)
>

Whenever I've watched BBC East I see the face of a shrivelled old man in
glasses, well passed his sellby date.  I find BBC East terminally boring
and flat.
However, Anglia TV is where you see the (admittedly old) but familiar faces
of Helen and co.  It's far more user friendly and they actually try to make
it interesting.  However a lot of work is needed in their jokes, they always
make mistakes and it spoils everything....
I've not yet tried the subtitles for Anglia News yet, but I did see the 
publicity they got.  I've yet to see Anglia News on Sunday, the new programme
at six pm on.....wait for it.....Sundays.



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From: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
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Subject: Contacting the ITC
Date: 6 Jan 93 16:04:17 GMT
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I wish to make a few dozen complaints to the ITC, anyone have their address handy?

Scott
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From: ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig)
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Subject: Re: Allo Allo finally finishes
Date: 6 Jan 93 12:07:53 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <726268744snx@apusapus.demon.co.uk>, tfj@apusapus.demon.co.uk (Trevor Jenkins) writes:
> Are You Being Served does have a sequel unfortunately. Dad's Army never had
> a (real) sequel though wasn't there a radio show that feature a FEW of the
> characters.

"It sticks out half a mile"
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From: sll28@cc.usu.edu (Lorna Payne)
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Subject: Re: Doctor Who!!
Date: 4 Jan 93 15:34:58 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1993Jan4.095454.15807@syma.sussex.ac.uk>, andy@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Andy Clews) writes:
> Mark Cooper (markc@compnews.co.uk) wrote:
> : At present, the Doctor has been dumped. As for Sylvester McCoy, he's a
> : travesty of the whole series - he's totally inappropriate to play him!
> 
> I totally disagree! I think Silvester McCoy is/was one of the better
> Doctors, after Tom Baker, William Hartnell and Patrick Troughton.
> Flameproof suit ON, shields UP, /dev/null at the ready... :-)

I agree, only I'd put McCoy after Baker and before Troughton (but being an
American, I've not seen too many Troughton stories).  Definitely better 
than Hartnell.  

The writing on the other hand . . .

I don't know if you realize this, but this is probably the longest-running
single thread on rec.arts.drwho.  It's been on rec.arts.sf.tv as well.

So if you want to get into some heavy discussion of the topic, check out
the former group.

Lorna
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From: sanderso@rolls.cs.rpi.edu (Don Sanderson)
Subject: Re: Deep Space Nine Preview (UK) *Minor Spoiler*
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 19:48:16 GMT

In article <C0Jo2w.4xq@gabriel.keele.ac.uk> phd99@keele.ac.uk (Ralph Ferneyhough) writes:
>1) Does the series really cost 1 million pounds an episode (something
	Would not suprise me, lots of SFX in the pilot.
>2) The article was accompaigned by a photo of the cast - this had eight
>people in. The article text only mentions six people - who are the
>other two. I guess one of them is the Ferengi member - but the other
>one?
	Just a guess but if the person is female then it is probably
	Keiko, O'Brein's wife.  The Ferengi is Quark the owner of the
	local pub.
>3) Is the shape changer, Odo, the same race as the one in STVI?
	No, his past is unknown.  He is a foundling with no knowledge
	of his people.
>4) Why have they chosen such a wide range of 'strange' names - a lot of
	Because many of the characters are not human.  You will meet two
	of these peoples in later TNG episodes.
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From: ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig)
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Subject: Re: Deep Space Nine
Date: 8 Jan 93 10:16:05 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <1993Jan7.153353.9139@pixel.kodak.com>, dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones) writes:
> It had it's first episode here in the US this week.  Broadcast date/time 
> varied from place to place because it's on the Dirty Digger Network, which 

That's interesting as Sky (prop R. Murdoch) are currently running reruns
of TNG in the UK. I wonder if they've grabbed the rights to DSN as well.
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From: maton@herald.usask.ca (Terry Maton)
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Subject: Re: Come back Thames all is forgiven!
Date: 6 Jan 93 22:14:33 GMT
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From article <1if5vjINN8d6@cardamom.compnews.co.uk>, by markc@compnews.co.uk (Mark Cooper):
> OK, here goes, the list of the ITV/Breakfast TV/Teletext franchise changeovers are as follows:
> 
> Thames			--->		Carlton
> TSW			--->		Westcountry
> TVS			--->		Meridian
> TVAM			--->		GMTV
> Oracle Teletext		--->		Teletext on 3/Teletext on 4
> --

So what happens to the companies and their employees who lost frachises?
For instance, there is a quite large TVS studio complex near where my mother
lives in Maidstone. 

Terry
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From: tfj@apusapus.demon.co.uk (Trevor Jenkins)
Subject: Teething probs for new teletext 
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:11:52 +0000


In article <9301051550.AA23278@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu> EEC@PORTIA.UMDS.LON.AC.UK writes:

> > From: sss@castle.ed.ac.uk (S S Sturrock)

> > Then of course, there is teletext on 3/4 which is a complete disaster,
> > where is the clock on channel 4 pray tell?  And how come the other day I
> > put on ITV and got teletext on 4 and on Ch4 there was none at all?
> > Teething problems?  I'll say!
> 
> Apparently, the coloured Fastest buttons are not working on about 50pc
> of TV sets too, since the changes.

In a random sample I did none of the TV sets responded to the handlink's
coloured buttons for certain Teletext pages. Okay so my sample size was
small (two) but I was in different TV regions when I tried them (Meridan
and then Carlton) and the TV sets were of different makes: Sony and
Philips.

> Also subtitles are not being transmitted properly for ITV programmes

Given that the driving force behind the creation of teletext was to provide
sub-titles this is a very serious failure.

> - the teletext providers are trying to blame
> this on the ITV companies, but the ITV companies says it's Teletext's
> fault!

We can guess the back-side covering that's going on there can't we. My
monies on the Teletext providers being at fault. The data is being provided
by them afterall.

> The organisation is also crap.

That is always a problem with sequential access systems like Ceefax and
Teletext.

> Having the "in depth" features on Channel
> 4 is daft.  When it goes off the air at night, you're left with only about
> 2 items of news on ITV!

They are merely copying the BBC, where the FAST service is carried by BBC1
and the "in depth" stuff is carried by BBC2. This is probably an attempt to
match up the channels ITV v BBC1 and C4 v BBC2.

> What a complete botch!  On the last day of ORACLE with all the writers saying 
> goodbye on their respective sections, I felt quite bad.

And we all know who to blame for the mess dont we...

..thank god she's not in 10 Downing Street anymore.

Regards, Trevor.

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From: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: new beeb gameshow - VR
Date: 5 Jan 93 11:53:05 GMT
Reply-To: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk
Organization: University of Durham

Anyone else catch that new VR based gameshow on Beeb 2 last night...Lister (Craig Charles)
was the host.  Had a couple of footballers on one team (don't know who they were, don't
follow the sport) and some normalish people on the other.

It was a bit annoying with the hooting in the audiance, but the premise was good.

Scott

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From: bammerla@cs.ruu.nl (Boris Ammerlaan)
Subject: Roxette
Summary: Trailer wanted
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:44:33 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science
Keywords: Michelle Pfeiffer

Doesn't ANYONE have the Roxette/Dangerous Liasons-The fabulous Baker
boys-Married to the mob trailer?

Boris Ammerlaan

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