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From: tob@world.std.com (Tom O Breton)
Subject: Re: Virtual Reality Addiction (Questionnaire)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:15:34 GMT

Chris:

Usually I don't flame people for putting up questionaires, but I'm gonna
make an exception for this one.

Why?  Because almost every question is directed toward finding something
*bad*. That's called leading questions, and they distort surveys.

I do not know whether virtual reality is addictive, but I suspect that
your results will make it appear so in either case.

        Tom

-- 
The Tom spreads its huge, scaly wings and soars into the wild sky...      
(tob@world.std.com)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: axl@cheshire.oxy.edu (W.AXL ROSE)
Subject: Re: What is ircIII?
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:25:02 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.224323.28773@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> troy@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU (Troy Rollo) writes:
>From article <phone.727891132@coombs>, by phone@coombs.anu.edu.au (matthew green):
>> ogpaik@cco.caltech.edu (Oon-Gil Paik) writes:
>> 
>>>Hi, I fpt-ed to wuarchive and found there is 'ircIII'. Is
>>>this new client? I have not tried it              
>
>In reality he has only changed one line of source code.
two that I know of...
>
>I had asked the admins of wuarchive to remove ircIII once before
>on grounds of copyright violation, and they claimed that it had
>been removed. I don't know how it mnaged to end up there again,
>but it would probably be appropriate for the current ircII
>coordinator to make such a request now.
>-- 
just wuarchive?
>_______________________________________________________________________________
>troy@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU	      Overworked, overcommited and always multitasking.
>Opinions expressed are not those of the CBME or UNSW, but are my opinions only.
>You are free to adopt them.   I suggest you adopt them.    You will adopt them!
  

Host switek.uni-muenster.de

    Location: /pub/unix/irc
           FILE -rw-r--r--     566628  May 11 1992  ircIII.tar.Z

Host sugrfx.acs.syr.edu

    Location: /pub/vr/irc/clients
           FILE -rw-r--r--     566628  Apr  7 1992  ircIII.tar.Z

Host sunsite.unc.edu

    Location: /pub/academic/computer-science/virtual-reality/irc/clients
           FILE -r--r--r--     566628  Apr  7 1992  ircIII.tar.Z

Host wuarchive.wustl.edu

    Location: /graphics/graphics/mirrors/sugrfx.acs.syr.edu/irc/clients
           FILE -r--r--r--     566628  Apr  6 1992  ircIII.tar.Z

Host grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr

    Location: /pub/unix/irc/ircII
           FILE -r--r--r--     566628  Jun 28 00:00  ircIII.tar.Z

Host mcsun.eu.net

    Location: /network/irc
           FILE -rw-r--r--     566628  Dec  1 09:48  ircIII.tar.Z
hmmm..time to get cracking! Get on it gents!
--Eli
P.S. just for you information
From: ogpaik@cco.caltech.edu (Oon-Gil Paik)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: What is ircIII?
Date: 24 Jan 1993 04:09:20 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu
Keywords: IRCIII

Hi, I fpt-ed to wuarchive and found there is 'ircIII'. Is this new client? I have not tried it
From: phone@coombs.anu.edu.au (matthew green)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Bots and Common Sense
Date: 28 Jan 93 10:49:45 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2

avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed) writes:

>dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Doug McLaren) writes:

>>Lets see which channels currently have over 15 people ...
[ ... ]
>> *** #hottub    25     To be (*) or not to be (*) that is the question
>> *** #hotsex    29     A f*cked channel                               
>>All that's left ...

>>Looks like the #hot* has it ...

channels with 20 or more people in them...

*** #42             28     T{n{{n tullaan bailaamaan ankarasti!
*** #hotsex         28     Shut your pie hole, Art_!
*** #amiga          27     I salute my predecessor, President Bush
*** #Twilight_Zone  20     you should all be taken out and shot

Now..  the Fin's keep #42 nice and tidy...  I don't ever remember seeing
a Hack notice from #42 ...   same goes for #amiga..  then again..amiga
users tend to be clueful people, on the whole..  :)   #twilight_zone..
well.. there are problems when some luser tries to "take over" the channel..
but the last few times I've seen that happened .. not body was looking..
and didn't really seem to care a great deal.. no KILLs...  

then we come to #bot* ..  (#hotsex in this case)....   Between #hotsex
and #talk..  I'd say that at least..  oh, 80% (probably more) of the Hack
notices I see come from there..   I guess that just says something about
the people who habitate those channels...

[...  junk from patch ...]

phone..

say NO to people asking "when" ..
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: dbrillha@dave.mis.semi.harris.com (Dave Brillhart)
Subject: HELP USING IRC2
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 12:48:01 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Reply-To: dbrillha@dave.mis.semi.harris.com
Organization: Harris Semiconductor

Hi,

  I'm a new IRC2 user. I built the code, installed it, and issued
"irc2 -f". Then I joined a channel using "/join #whatever". At that
point I can watch a conversation, but if I try to enter any words of
wisdom, it tells me "You have not joined a channel!". 

  Well, how do I join a channel so that I can write to it?

*** dbrillha!dbrillha@dave.mis.semi.harris.com has joined channel #UK
*** = #UK : dbrillha cyberwulf varg 
*** You have not joined a channel!


Thanks,


--
                                           Dave Brillhart
                                           UNIX Systems Group
                                           (407) 729-5430
From: avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Bots and Common Sense
Date: 28 Jan 93 05:27:28 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2

dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Doug McLaren) writes:

[...]
>You do not speak for the entire world ... therefore you cannot say that 'No
>one' joins these channels to talk.  I do.  I *like* big channels ... and
>if the scrollage gets too bad, I turn off the modes ...

>Lets see which channels currently have over 15 people ...
[...]
> *** #twilight_ 16     We don't need no greetings!  
>Hmmm ... where else can you get /killed for talking ???  I prefer people
>who actually SAY something !

Well not #twilight_ or any channel that I frequent.  The problem is people
join it and expect all sorts of things.  There are no gaurantees with IRC
or #twilight_zone.  That a number of ops congregate together there is more
a reflection of a few cluely people who can be found there.

> *** #hottub    25     To be (*) or not to be (*) that is the question
> *** #hotsex    29     A f*cked channel                               
>All that's left ...

>Looks like the #hot* has it ...

Well, I dunno about you, but a channel sorta looses its point when there
are too many people (raving lunatics and other people putting on a show)
anything you say is going to be hard to read and out of context unless you
glue your eyes to the screen or like RSI (alternatively, you could have /on's
setup to make conversation for you, just like a bot).

avalon
From: babar+@pitt.edu (Jonggu Moon)
Newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.irc.recovery,rec.games.mud.lp,alt.mud,rec.games.mud.misc,rec.games.hack,talk.bizarre,alt.drugs,soc.net-people
Subject: Re: Virtual Reality Addiction (Questionnaire)
Date: 27 Jan 93 13:31:47 GMT
Followup-To: alt.irc
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


dear researcher:


please make sure to post an on-line ascii'ed copy of your final 
conclusions/observations to the above usenet groups since
I'm sure many of those who made your research possible ( by contributing)
would be interested in the results.

thanks.

- jon
From: mark@coombs.anu.edu.au (Mark)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Any one got the NickServ helpfile I wrote?
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:05:20 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2
Organisation: Wassat?!

A while back I wrote a helpfile for NickServ that explained in lay-persons
terms how to use the NickServ service. Unfortunately due to various reasons
I dont have a copy anymore and I would liek to update/revise it and get it
going again. 

If anyone has a copy of it could they *email* it to me. Dont post it as
it is most likely out of date.

Thanks
Mark
mark@coombs.anu.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: troy@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU (Troy Rollo)
Subject: Re: /dcc
Organization: University of New South Wales
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:02:02 GMT

From article <1993Jan21.120517.12904@aston.ac.uk>, by evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans):
> How about having the recipient also be able to send a REFUSE CTCP back
> which will cause the socket the requester is holding to be closed.

Generally if somebody doesn't want a file, it's unlikely to be offered to them.
If the user wants to cancel the offer, they can at any time.

> (possibly also a timeout on DCC requests)

That's not a protocol issue.

> (avoids hogging resorces)

An idle socket doesn't cost much in resources because no mbufs are allocated
to it yet.
 
> (while this is open anyone who knows it's port number can connect to it,
> should be just the client you are trying to contact. Anyone who can run
> a program such as netstat on your machine can find this out)

Anyone can do this with talk and ftp too. Of course, they have to figure
out which of usually several open connections they are aiming to get at.
This is also a client private consideration, not a protocol consideration.
  
> : 	At this point, the USER should be able to abort (close) the
> 
> (aborting by sending a message back to the user which will notify them
> and clean up things at their end)

In practice, about the only time this feature will be used is when somebody
sends a DCC request maliciously (somebody you wouldn't want to talk to
or somebody trying to send a file to replace one in your home directory).
 
> Is a DCC REFUSE command currently included?

No, but it would be simple to alias it.

	ALIAS REFUSE
	{
		CTCP $1 REFUSE $0 $2
		DCC CLOSE $0 $1 $2
	}

	ON ^CTCP "% % REFUSE % %"
	{
		if ( [$1] == N )
		{
			^DCC CLOSE $3 $0 $4
			if ([$4])
			{
				echo *** DCC $3 \($4\) to $0 refused
			}
			{
				echo *** DCC $3 (any) to $0 refused
			}
		}
	}
--
_______________________________________________________________________________
troy@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU	      Overworked, overcommited and always multitasking.
Opinions expressed are not those of the CBME or UNSW, but are my opinions only.
You are free to adopt them.   I suggest you adopt them.    You will adopt them!
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: jedubins@unix.amherst.edu (Just a fellow traveller...)
Subject: Bots for research and modelling
Organization: Limbo, Org.   (how low can you go)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 08:49:33 GMT

I haven't seen anybody talk about this use of bots, and although most
bot owners don't use their bots for this it is a very legitimate use.

I occasionally bring a bot up under another nick, and run it off it's own
channel to see who talks to it and in what way.  I use rules I learned from
studying linguistics to perform transformations, much the way Eliza does to
better understand what's going on in the process of linguistic communication.

I started off with Eliza as a model, but there's no reason why bots like this
can't be used in other related areas, as in gathering psychological research,
or testing out varied models of cognition and communication.

In short, IRC is probably the best environment currently available for trying
out something similar to a Turing test.

I know this is not what most people use there bots for, and I don't know
if killing bots altogether is the solution, but if anything is to be done,
I would prefer just the removal of IRC scripting, as I don't like to use that.
I use languages like C, or Perl script.
(I must admit I sometimes use my bot to hold a channel as well, but all the
time it runs, it also collects data)  It runs on a channel by itself, and the
only time it might ever become annoying to someone is if they join the channel
it's on and start to talk to it(weird responses can sometimes get annoying).

On another note: on nicks, it seems to me that if someone is going to own a
nick it should only be from a specific user@host.  The way it's set up now
is like saying that only one person in any given country will be allowed to
have the first name 'Dave', and everyone else will just have to go get a new
one.  Let's face it, alot of the time, the people who register nicks are not
the people who originally used that nick.  I think people will just have to
learn to look at userid@host to see if the 'Dave' they see is really the
one they know or not.  As always, people with fake userid@host should be
identified, that's more clearly a case of impersonation than just having
a nick someone else happens to use.  At the very least I don't think common
first names should be able to be registered with nickserv@service.de.

				Jim
Xref: sparky alt.irc:5122 alt.irc.recovery:386 rec.games.mud.lp:5050 alt.mud:637 rec.games.mud.misc:2111 rec.games.hack:8369 talk.bizarre:46774 alt.drugs:21555 soc.net-people:1704
From: astinus+@pitt.edu (Mark E Porterfield)
Newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.irc.recovery,rec.games.mud.lp,alt.mud,rec.games.mud.misc,rec.games.hack,talk.bizarre,alt.drugs,soc.net-people
Subject: Re: Virtual Reality Addiction (Questionnaire)
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:12:17 GMT
Followup-To: alt.irc
Organization: Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center

Chris,

I have to agree that your survey was poorly worded.  Having both undergrad and
graduate work in Information Systems I have had quite a bit of class and
job experience in producing surveys.  Unlike you rold science experiments
in a survey you do not attempt to disprove your hypothesis.  Nor do you
assume that what you are saying as correct or try to lead a person in the
direction you want them to go.  Write questions that let them show you
where they are.

Mark E. Porterfield
Informations Systems Analyst
PSC
From: phone@coombs.anu.edu.au (matthew green)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: ircII 2.2pre8
Date: 28 Jan 93 10:58:26 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2

dms50304@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Darkman) writes:

>Out of curiosity, how soon is it going to be out?  Seems as though the
>client coding is coming to standstill after the flury of pre's already
>released.  Just like to know how it's coming along.

Slowly, but getting there.   I haven't released ircII 2.2pre8, because it
was still broken.  I doubt that there will ever be a "pre" release of
ircII ever again, that is, that is released to the public as a whole.

I find it rather funny that I put something like `say NO to people asking
"when"' in my previous post..  :)

There is no date, or span on when ircII 2.2 will be released..  it could
be tomorrow.. or it could be next week.. could be next month.. or the
month after...   When ever it is ready...

phone..

say NO to..  um...  people who don't drink Guinness...
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: wright@rain.cs.odu.edu (LET'S DO EDUCATION)
Subject: Re: Whats in it for me ?   REPOST:  IRC QUESTIONNAIRE
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA, USA
	<SCOTT.93Jan15090346@winnetou.santafe.edu>
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 01:54:43 GMT

[.....]
   >   I feel that receipt of a copy of your report after its been handed in
   >   and graded  is sufficient payment for my services.
   >   Otherwise, I must charge you 5 dollars for my help, which is the
   >   typical payment for subjects in psychology experiments.

   >   And I'm sure many other people who have filled out your questionaire
   >   are more than willing to waive their 5 dollar fee which they are 
   >   entitled to, in lieu of you sending them a copyof your report as well.

You are HILARIOUS!!  Call David Letterman now and let him know you want to
be a guest of his!!!!

THOR
(say NO to ridiculous law suits)
From: scott@winnetou.santafe.edu (Scott D. Yelich)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Oh wow...
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:55:50 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Santa Fe Institute


Has someone been reading alt.irc?

Check out the cartoon FOX TROT, Monday January 25 1993.

Scott
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: frechett@spot.Colorado.EDU (-=Runaway Daemon=-)
Subject: Re: help ircII2.1.5h, pleaseeeee
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 00:41:07 GMT

In article <7110@tuegate.tue.nl> ramon@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Ramon Kolb) writes:
>I compiled it without problems running the 'csh install1.0' command...
>it's nice and interactive, and you don't have to bother about putting the right
>#defines everywhere....

Since I wrote the install1.0 program I can assure you however that it's
only set up to handle ircII2.2pre7 clients.  I don't believe the config
files for ircII2.1.5 are like ircII2.2pre* much at all.  I'm not about to
go back and find out either.. ;)

>         --Ramon

	ian
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: milano@IASTATE.EDU (Getting serious now...)
Subject: Re: logfile
Reply-To: milano@IASTATE.EDU (Getting serious now...)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 18:18:17 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.081551.9930@rhrk.uni-kl.de>, schmuck@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Karl
Schmuck [Bib]) writes:
> Hello ircler
> 
> does anyone of you know who to produce a logfile of an irc-session ?
> I'm running IRCII on a Unix.
> 
> Thanks Karl
> 
> -- 
> Karl H. Schmuck          (schmuck@rhrk.uni-kl.de)



on ur .ircrc file have this line

set logfile [filename]



n when u wanna have the log on, /set log on

that's all :)

and have fun





jesse
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:44:24 -0500 
From: Michele Carla Zugschwerdt <Jasmyne+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Welcome Back To Me


JASMYNE (the wonderful??) has returned to IRC

Rejoyce all ye of little faith

*grin*

peace ya'll..have a nice semester.

Jas
From: elb1@j30264293.reslife.cornell.edu (Eric L. Beyer)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: IRC sites?
Date: 24 Jan 1993 07:16:46 GMT
Organization: The Solaris Development Group
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: j30264293.reslife.cornell.edu
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In article <1993Jan19.230933.1149@uoft02.utoledo.edu> klee2@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
> Can someone kindly send me through E-Mail some irc sites and how can I
> logon from the United States?
> 
> KLee
> Many Thanks in advanse.
> 
> 

   Me, too.  I'm especially interested in sites that don't require
telnetting to a specific port..

   Thanks much.
-- 
  O#####################################################################^V
  |  Eric L. Beyer                            President                  #
  |  Resident Advisor    elb1@cornell.edu     Solaris Development Group  #
  |  Mary Donlon Hall                         C= certified developers    #
  |  Cornell University  IRC: Zoma (#amiga)   A500 user                  #
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------->
From: grantham@beirut.berkeley.edu (Jon Grantham)
Newsgroups: alt.irc.ircii
Subject: Unsetting the /topic
Date: 22 Jan 1993 02:31:54 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: beirut.berkeley.edu

Once a /topic has been set, how do you restore the channel to its previously
pristine /topic-less state?  /help topic doesn't say.

Jon
Newsgroups: alt.irc.ircii
From: O-6@sarpih.no (Student Fellesbruker)
Subject: ircII client for msdos; does it exist?
Summary: Does anybody have/know of ircII for msdos?
Organization: stfold Ingenirhyskole
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:06:46 GMT


Is there anybody out there who has an ircII client for msdos?
I would really like to get one! If you know where I can get it, please
mail me at:

	kkristia@nyx.cs.du.edu
--
Newsgroups: alt.irc.ircii
From: wilsom4@vccsouth18.its.rpi.edu (Matt Wilson)
Subject: Re: ircII client for msdos; does it exist?
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:20:38 GMT

>Is there anybody out there who has an ircII client for msdos?

Could you tell me too?

wilsom4@rpi.edu

Thanks...

Matt
===========================================================================
"This is the work of Guelah Papyrus,
	Stranded for a moment on the ocean of Osiris,
		Absorbing all she can, for every member of her clan,
Expanding exponentially like some recursive virus..."

						-Phish
From: ruspc40@rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Noname)
Newsgroups: alt.irc.ircii
Subject: Re: MSDOS IRCclients
Date: 27 Jan 1993 19:41:19 GMT
Organization: PC-Pool ,RUS ,University of Stuttgart ,FRG
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ruspool18.rus.uni-stuttgart.de
Keywords: MSDOS

Hello

I  hope I don`t do post this twice, I am new to NEWS.

I HAVE FOUND AN IRC CLIENT FOR MSDOS, BUT I GUESS IT ISN~T A IRCII CLIENT, 
IHOPE IT WILL BE FINE TOO

The Program  is called IRCall, here a part of the DOC to it.
=============================================================================
                               IRCall
                   (C) Copyright 1992 Peter Haight
                       v0.5 (beta-test version)
                            Documentation

This is a beta-test version. This program works, but not all features are
implemented and there may be many bugs. Please do not distribute this program
without my permission. If you do choose to use this program, I would
appreciate it if you contact me at P.S.Haight@cornell.edu and let me know.
I would also appreciate it if you would report any bugs that you find or any
ideas you have for improvements or new features. Even though this is a beta
version, it should work quite well for what it is intended.

This is probably the last beta version. After the bug reports are back from
this I will fix the problems and add maybe a few features and then distribute
it freely.

All Right. In order to get started you must first have an IBM PC connected to
the Internet or some network using some sort of card. This card must be
supported by the Clarkson packet drivers and you must have one of them loaded
in memory for the program to work. If you need help with this, please write
me at P.S.Haight@cornell.edu
=============================================================================

You can MAIL to the author of the client  at  the adress abouve.

I searched in some ARCHIE archives and found the following:


FTPservers:

          cooombs.anu.edu.au
               /pub/irc/msdos/IRCALL05.ZIP

          cs.bu.edu
               /irc/clients/msdos/IRCALL05.ZIP

          src.doc.ic.ac.uk
               /computing/comms/irc/clients/msdos/IRCALL05.ZIP

    IRCALL05.ZIP <68631 Bytes> on eache site



Hope it is the right program.
Greetings Peter Kolb (IRCNICK: Torfnase)

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