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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:54:12 -0400
Reply-To:     Jari Lehto <Jari.Lehto@hut.fi>
From:         Jari 'Jartsu' Lehto <s37837k@SAHA.HUT.FI>
Subject:      Re: techno
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              92 1:13 pm

>
> I'm looking for suggestions of older synths to buy for techno projects.
> I'll be getting a separate drum machine and already have an 8-bit sampler
> (an amiga 500). What MIDI synths have good techno sounds? I wanted to buy an
> M1 workstation at first, but (1) the M1 didn't have any sliders for live
> filter control/LFO, etc. (2) It seems I could do the whole thing a lot
> cheaper using the Amiga to play samples/sequence (plus drum machine).
> Any suggestions? Thanks.

I think Ensoniq VFX or one of it's successors will serve you well for
producing techno-type music. There are lots of good synthetical basic
souds to begin with and the modulation system allows you to do almost
whatever you wish. The original VFX can be found easily and very cheap
these days, and if it has an OS of recent version, it is quite stable
too, unlike the first ones.

>    Dana


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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:27:04 -0400
From:         NLEONARD@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU
Subject:      Re: IVL Pitchrider
Comments: To: EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU

The pitchrider sends a velocity which matches the volume when the
note is triggered and can continue tracking volume, which is mapped
to MIDI Volume, Breath Control, Aftertouch.

Neil
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:19:52 EDT
From:         Andrea Peach <APEACH00@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Keymidiator

I have recently purchased a 386/SX20 notebook and am looking for a good
serial MIDI adapter.  The only one that I have found is the Keymidiator
from Key Electronics.  Does anyone know of others or is this basically
the best one?

Also, has anyone used Cakewalk for Windows?  Is it worth the extra
money?

Send replies to APEACH00@ukcc.uky.edu.  Thanks.
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:51:19 MST
From:         Phil Schaefer <sedsci!phil@NAUCSE.CSE.NAU.EDU>
Subject:      Quickscore Deluxe characteristics
Comments: To: auvm.american.edu!emusic-l@naucse.cse.nau.edu

Would anyone in this group care to comment on
the QuickScore Deluxe sequencing/notation program for the PC?
From talking to the people at the company, it sounds
too good to be true for the price...  Is it easy to
use?  Any quirks to be aware of?

I'd appreciate any remarks either direct or thru
the net.

phil

sedsci!phil@naucse.cse.nau.edu
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: IVL Pitchrider
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 00:22:04 GMT

In article <01GO4IKDUSFM9I48Y4@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU> NLEONARD@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU writes:
>Please
>
>I have never tried any careful experiments with the IVL.  However, I
>have performed a number of pieces with soprano sax and the IVL.  It
>sends note on, velocity and maps volume to one of 4 controllers.
>If you use it with the foot pedal (theirs), it harmonizes, sends
>program changes.  It is a one rack space unit.

Is it velocity senstive, meaning does it send more than one velocity
number?  I have the Fairlight, and they discontinued it before they put
that in, although there are some beta versions of the ROM with it in.
That is the main drawback, no velocity sensitivity.

Jeff
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From: gwestern@icaen.uiowa.edu (Gary Edwin Western)
Subject: Survey
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:11:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers rec.music.synth
Subject: --SURVEY--

Survey-
	I am posting this survey here to gather information from as large a baseof working musicians as possible.  If you currently play or work for a band,    please take a couple minutes to fill out this survey.  Thank you.

Do you use MIDI in live performance?
	For what applications?

Do you use a personal computer in live performance?
	For what applications?
	Brand and Model?

How many lights do you use? 
	Brand and Model?

Would a computer controlled light show benefit your performance?

What would you consider a "fair" price for a computer interface for controlling your current light configuration?

Please mail responses to gwestern@icaen.uiowa.edu.  If you would like more info
on this survey and its purposes, contact:
	Gary E Western			gwestern@icaen.uiowa.edu
	319 353 1702
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From:         NLEONARD@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU
Subject:      Re: more voice-to-MIDI
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The IVL makes a best guess about glissani.  If you have an octave
pitchbend on both the IVL and the synth you could do an ocatve gliss.

It responds to fast, slurred input, although, it does not shine in
this area.

Yes, I would like any info on the Roland Devices.

Reply to Dimitrij Hmeljak

By Neil Leonard
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 10:54:02 -0400
From:         Dana Nibby <D_NIBBY@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      acid baSS drum
Comments: To: emusic-l@auvm.american.edu

Sorry if this appears twice.

  I'm looking for a cheap drum machine that has a decent acid bass
drum sample and is MIDI compatible. There's no way in hell I'm paying
$400-$800 for a TR808 or an R8. I always buy used equipment anyhow,
so the drum machine need not even be on the market. Any suggestions?
I didn't want to spend much more than $250 used.

    Thanks,

       Dana
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:49:48 -0400
From:         NLEONARD@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU
Subject:      Re: IVL Pitchrider
Comments: To: EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU

Please

I have never tried any careful experiments with the IVL.  However, I
have performed a number of pieces with soprano sax and the IVL.  It
sends note on, velocity and maps volume to one of 4 controllers.
If you use it with the foot pedal (theirs), it harmonizes, sends
program changes.  It is a one rack space unit.

It was the only thing that I could find in the $600 range.  This was
4 years ago, so I don't know what it would cost now.

IVL is located in Victoria, British Colombia, Canada.  I'm not sure
where I have their address.  They were still in buisness as of spring
'92.

The model I refer to is the Model 4000 Mark II Pitch MIDI Interface.

What can you tell me about the rolands.  Also could you please forward
me any information you get on machines for under $1000.

Thank you very much,
Neil
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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1992 18:09:20 -0400
From:         Dana Nibby <D_NIBBY@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      BOSS DR-660
Comments: To: emusic-l@auvm.american.edu, rec-music-synth@ucbvax.berkeley.edu,
              bpm+@andrew.cmu.edu, rec-music-industrial@ucbvax.berkeley.edu

Does anyone have a Boss DR-660 drum machine they want to sell?
Please e-mail me if you have one you want to sell.
Thanks.

    Dana

  D_NIBBY@UNHH.UNH.EDU
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From: erhellfr@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Edgar Hellfritsch)
Subject: Re: New MIDI message
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 09:32:03 GMT

Alan Edwards <aedwards@JUPITER.CSD.UNB.CA> writes:

>We decided that a new MIDI message was needed:  All Notes On

*falling down choking with laughter* This one's GREAT!!!!
Finally someone had a REALLY useful idea how to improve good old MIDI.
I'll be the first one to use it!!!

Way to go, Alan!!!

Edgar Hellfritsch, Erlangen/Germany.
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 12:45:07 EDT
From:         ronin <HARNDEN@AMERICAN.EDU>
Subject:      odd sod
Comments: To: EMUSIC-L@american.edu

and i do mean dirt...
i've been scanning vinyl bins (and cd seconds) recently, and have come
across various schulze and td that i have bought largely to keep up the
collections. for the most part, i have simply added to my understanding
of the concept of the canon... the collection of an artist's works which
are best known and distributed. these albums are definitely lesser products,
and seem to have been printed and released more for the purposes of archival
completeness than any real merit. specifically, i picked up 'pergamon' and
'tyger' by td, and 'en=trance' and 'dreams' by schulze. uniformly, these
things are second rate, more like half-realized experiments than the products
of significant inspiration. pergamon is a live album (in e. germany, i think),
of no particular distinction. 'tyger' is one of the few released td experiments
in vocal works... much more extensive than that on 'cyclone', it includes an
entire song cycle based on blake, sung with some degree of conviction by
someone who sounds trained as a soul singer. not a total failure, but
not a wow, either. 'dreams' starts off like one of schulze's standard sequence
jams, which is nice, but about half way through one side someone begins to sing
here, as well, and it does not even seem rehearsed. the voice has been
processed enough to be unitelligible, but not enough to be interesting. bleah.
the other one, 'en=trance', is a series of diddles on an entire rack of roland
synths, the d quite prominent among them. i bought it thinking that i might
like to hear what schulze would make of this suite of sounds, and found
what appears to be his sound pallette (the tape that one makes of one's
patches, mostly for personal reference). pretty cheesy, for klause.
in short, if, like me, you *must* have everything an artist does, then
by all means pick up these albums. they have a certain historical value,
and in no case are wretched... just generally uninteresting. if, however,
you are in the market for music to listen to, and are not so concerned
with the obscure back corners of german pop-synth music... skip 'em.
pick up wendy carlos' 'switched on bach 2000' instead... more on which
later.

-----------< Cognitive Dissonance is a 20th Century Art Form >-----------
Eric Harnden (Ronin)
<HARNDEN@AUVM.BITNET> or <HARNDEN@AMERICAN.EDU>
The American University Physics Dept.
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 10:43:42 -0400
From:         Dana Nibby <D_NIBBY@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      acid house bass drum
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Comments: cc: emusic-l@auvm.american.edu

I'm looking for a cheap drum machine with two things:
a good acid bass drum sample and MIDI compatibility. I'm not about
to blow $400-$800 on a TR808 or an R8. I'm buying used too, so I don't
need a machine currently on the market. Any suggestions?

     Pax,


      Dana
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:26:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      Electro Harmonix

>From:         "D. Yuen" <yuen@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL>

>A while back the rumor popped up that Electro Harmonix was going to go
>back into business.  Anybody know anything about this?

Mike Matthews (former head of Electro-Harmonix) is now doing business
as New Sensor.  He is negotiating with the Russians to resurrect the
old product line.  A recent Guitar Player article on distortion boxes
included mention of a Russian made Big Muff, distributed in the US by
New Sensor.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 09:11:00 EST
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Subject:      re: Wendy Carlos

>From:         Michel Debar <mdebar@CC.FUNDP.AC.BE>

>Could someone send me the exact reference for the CDs of Wendy Carlos,
>especially
>"Beauty in the Beast", "Carnival of the animals - part 2", the original
>"Switched on Bach", "Brandenburg concertos".
>Many thanks, Michel Debar (Wepion, Belgium)

_Beauty In The Beast_ Audion label SYNCD 200

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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From: jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu (Mike Jittlov)
Subject: John Massari's Music on multi-network special!
Summary: Joh  Massari's Music on multi-network special!
Keywords: music, synth, composer, genius, Massari
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 22:01:31 GMT

Attention and Alert!

To Music-Lovers everywhere, concerning the further sonic
adventures of one John Massari - who is a lookalike for his
hero-figure Frank Zappa, along with sharing a kindred spirit,
idealism, moustache, and nose.  To wit:

JOHN MASSARI, who co-starred as a Musical Genius (against his
protests, and under the pseudonym of "Steve Shostakovich") in
the critically-rave-reviewed action-comedy-adventure-special-
effects-laden fantasy and satire-on-Hollywood-and-the-System
feature film <gasp>, "The Wizard of Speed and Time" - and who
contributed much of the movie's music score - will once again
grace the airwaves of the entire North American Continent with
his most recent work, in:

      "SCARED SILENT - Exposing and Ending Child Abuse"
                 - Hosted by Oprah Winfrey -

A nation-wide simulcast Television Premiere, airing this Friday,
September 4, 1992, 10pm (9pm central), on CBS, NBC, _and_ PBS
- with an encore presentation on ABC, Sunday, September 6, 1992,
10pm (9pm central)!  This is the first primetime non-news show
ever to be aired by three broadcast networks simultaneously!

    John Massari composed all music for this TV special
    John Massari conducted all music for this TV special
    John Massari produced all music for this TV special
    John Massari performed all music for this TV special*
    John is very happy with all music for this TV special

  * with special thanks to John's friends, pianist Neil Posner
    and recording engineer Avi Hochberg.

Any immodesty in the above is due to the immense pride of this
note-poster.  John is the Prince of Humility :]

[Note 1:  the show's Executive Producer and Writer, Arnold
Shapiro, is _not_ connected with Shapiro-Glickenhaus Ent -
the corp >:p that is currently misdistributing our film, and
doing so without my authorization]

[Note 2:  info appreciated on Mr Z's mailing address, so I can
send him a free VHS of the movie he almost invested in - and
sagaciously did not]

[Note 3:  200 pardons if this is the wrong Newsgroup - I'm new
to the Net, just tapping all these keys & hoping for the best]


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From: D_NIBBY@UNHH.UNH.EDU (Dana Nibby)
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Subject: techno
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:13:08 GMT
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Comments: To: emusic-l@auvm.american.edu

I'm looking for suggestions of older synths to buy for techno projects.
I'll be getting a separate drum machine and already have an 8-bit sampler
(an amiga 500). What MIDI synths have good techno sounds? I wanted to buy an
M1 workstation at first, but (1) the M1 didn't have any sliders for live
filter control/LFO, etc. (2) It seems I could do the whole thing a lot
cheaper using the Amiga to play samples/sequence (plus drum machine).
Any suggestions? Thanks.

   Dana

PS. Does anyone have any of the house/techno sampling CDs? If so,
how are they? Which ones are actually worth the outrageous price
tags?
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:52:49 EDT
From:         "Henry,Otto,W" <MUHENRY@ECUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: more voice-to-MIDI
              1 Sep 1992 15:08:34 +0200 from <hmeljakm@UTS340.UNIV.TRIESTE.IT>

Re Roland VP 70: It won't track glisando, just triggers chromatic pitches. It h
as some velocity sensativity, but hard to control. Frankly, its a bit freaky, b
ut its all I have right now!
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 10:42:22 +0000
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From:         Nick Rothwell <nick@DCS.ED.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: New Wavestation
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>I think I'll wait for the real one to c
>ome down further in price.

Me too. (I have a WS keyboard, but sooner or later I'm going to want two
units just in order to be able to do effects switching and configuration
properly without killing all the notes each time, which is what the v3 WS
does for all its interesting effects configurations.) This new Wavestation
sounds to be an A/D with all the important features removed.

Funny how the A/D is holding its value. It's been L1200 ($2000-ish) or so
for a year or two, whereas the keyboard has been dropping.

Oh, drat, forgot to phone Hollowoods to arrange delivery of my EX upgrade.
In case anyone's interested, these things seem to be getting scarce now,
and going up in price, so if you have a non-EX Wavestation keyboard, I'd
recommend checking out the EX kit quickly.

Nick.
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:40:36 BST
From:         David Wilson <davol@MEIKO.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Performer DTLe problem
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Davol is on holiday at the momoent, but his mail will be retained, until
his return, and he will reply then. He is back on the 07/09/92.

Thank You

Paul Lee.
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:29:48 +0200
From:         "Hmeljak Mattia" <hmeljakm@UTS340.UNIV.TRIESTE.IT>
Subject:      voice-to-MIDI
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From:   Dimitrij Hmeljak
        (now in list as: hmeljakm@uts340.univ.trieste.it)
        (normally at:    hmeljakd@uts340.univ.trieste.it)
I'm interested (for study) in everything concerning
--->voice pitch detection for MIDI control<---
such as MIDI-microphones, voice-to-MIDI boxes, ...
and expecially software that could do this (in real time ?)
on a Mac with A/D IN and a MIDI interface.
Does anybody know anything about this?
Thanks!
           Dimitrij Hmeljak, student
           Dipart.E.E.I.
           Universita` degli Studi di Trieste
           Italy
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:03:37 EST
From:         Jon Crystal <OFABJC@UVMADMIN.BITNET>
Subject:      New Wavestation

Just got off the phone from a call to Sweetwater Sound. Their latest brochure s
ounded like they had seriously discounted WAvestation A/D. Not. I was quoted th
e same $1575 I've been told for almost a year from a variety of sources. But...
I was also told Korg was coming out with a new model: single rack space, wave s
equencing, most of the same functions as the keyboard, *no A/D*, at a price som
ewhat lower than the current A/D quote. I think I'll wait for the real one to c
ome down further in price.
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From:         hye_ok_park@CSUFRESNO.EDU
Subject:      Re: ftp restrictions
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X-cc:         Hye Ok Park <hyeok@csufresno.edu>
              Sep 1, 92 11:37 am

Since we had a little problem with security on the ADVANCE system as
well as the campus mainframe last month, we hired a consultant to
examine the security needs and have since implemented a few
security measures to tighten up.  One of them is to disable ftp and
fingering from outside of PYRAMID.  There were a few other useful
things put into place.  I would be happy to share it with other
ADVANCE users.  However, I do not feel comfortable talking about it
via the LIST.  If interested, please give me a call at (209)278-6528.

Hye Ok Park
Library Systems Coordinator
CSU, Fresno
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 11:28:45 MST
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Advance Users Group

The officers of the Advance Users Group will be meeting with Geac in
Dallas at the end of next week.  Results of that meeting will be announced
to this list, and will also be mailed to the Users Group membership.

Also, I will be attending LITA in Denver the following week, and would
be glad to meet with any of you during the conference.  If there is
enough interest, we might even have an informal meeting over drinks
or dinner.  I'll be at the Radisson in Denver from Sunday noon until
Thursday morning of LITA week, which starts about nine days from now.

dan

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