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From: parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr)
Subject: Re: Rod cases
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 22:03:21 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <92Aug14.215538.16875@acs.ucalgary.ca> powlesla@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jim B. Powlesland) writes:
>
>During my trip to the Yukon this summer, my Plano rod case was
>wrecked by the airline. The end of my 7' one piece muskie rod
>inside the case was also snapped off (imagine my delight when I
>discovered it). I have since been compensated by the airline.
>
>In any case, after seeing how well this supposedly high-quality
>case held up to the baggage compartment, I have the following
>question: Where can I buy a better rod case?
>
>I noticed one guy in the group of Americans who came in on the
>float plane after us had a white plastic rod case that looked
>like it take a small A-bomb. He was from the Chicago area. Any
>idea where he got it? Where I could order one?

I made one with great ease from heavy black plastic sewer pipe.
I got a length of pipe, glued a cap on one end, and a screw lid
fitting on the other. Foam in eachj end cap, and it was ready to
go. Cost: 10$ from a plumbing supply house.

I drove a car over it once (no rods inside) on a bet. No problems
at all.

That's my recc.

Charles
-- 
Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of
separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
gourd. --Unknown net.person
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Downing)
Subject: Re: re : rod cases
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix & Think_Tank BBS
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:11:47 GMT

In article <Bt4q8C.L5@apollo.hp.com> cloyd_j@apollo.hp.com (John Cloyd) writes:
>    PVC ! I use a 3" ID section of PVC, it's almost indestructable.
>My only complaint, being a fly fisherman, was the lack of snob appeal,
>so on the side I wrote "My Other Rod Case Is Rosewood". I feel much
>better about it now. One thing you may want to do is get some blaze
>orange spray paint and paint the tube. I've had 2 lost in airports
>so far (in Puerto Rico & Mexico) that were eventually found, but would
>have been found sooner if they were dayglo. One, for example, fell off
>it blended right in.


For those who're too lazy to build their own, I've found the biggest
Plano tube (with carrying handle) to be just fine. It also telescopes
to fit any larger rods that you may buy later. It's survived two trips
to Alaska, one trip to New Zealand, one trip to British Columbia, and
one trip to Nova Scotia/Newfoundland without a problem. Maybe I'm just
lucky :-)


-- 
Bill Downing, President		Email: bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.us		
DOWNING ASSOCIATES, INC.
8 Doyle Lane, Hopkinton, MA 01748
508-435-4567
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing,rec.backcountry
From: burris@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jim Burris)
Subject: Re: Wanted Large FLATBOTTOM-CHEAP!!!
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:12:58 GMT

In article <1992Aug10.032808.9990@informix.com> coburn@informix.com (Dave Coburn) writes:
>In article <1992Aug9.144103.10855@ncsu.edu> plh@ecemw6.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron) writes:
>>In article <Aug07.215727.18359@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU (wayne trzyna) writes:
>>|> Going fishing means seventy horse-power motors...
>>
>>Wayne, 
>>
>>What kind of sissy are you?  A puny little 70hp motor just is NOT 
>>going to cut it (unless you put it on a dumb little square stern canoe).
>>There is no posted speed limit in the middle of the lake!!! 
>>
>>		-Pat.
>
>You wanna see something that *REALLY* takes off?  Check out my 10 ft. jon
>boat. . .twin 150 Evenrudes!

   I'll bet it takes off? (straight to the bottom ;))

Jim Burris
From: jmd@kastle (John M. Danskin)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Panfish? (Was: Re: Keeping cheese on a fish hook?)
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:13:16 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Princeton University CS Department, Princeton NJ


OK, I admit it. I eat panfish. I slice along the top fin on both sides and
pull it out. Repeat for the anal fin. Cut the head off. Slit up the
belly and take all the stuff out.

Ooops. First, scale the fish.


Rinse, dry, shake in a paper bag with flour, paprika, pepper, garlic powder
salt. Fry.

They taste really good if they come from reasonably clean water.
THey taste awful if they come from yucky silted up canals.

Our kids (one usually only eats white foods, the other only "yellow eggs")
love them. They even manage to pick through all of the plentiful bones.


-- 
John Danskin			|	CS Grad student
(609) 258-5386			|	graphics & systems
jmd@cs.princeton.edu		|
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: ajg@seas.gwu.edu (Alan Goldschen)
Subject: Surf Rod Casting Distance?
Organization: George Washington University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:10:39 GMT

Fishers:

I just came back from a fantastic trip at the Outer Banks, North Carolina.
My wife (a very serious FisherPerson) and I caught a variety of fish:
Blues, Spanish Mackeral, Flounder, Spot, Croaker, Trigger Fish, Blow Fish
(Butterfly), Sand Shark, Cobia, and Lizard Fish.

I have a question about getting the maximum casting distance with a surf
rod.  We used a 9' heavy action rod, 8' light action rod and 8' medium
action rod.  I noticed that I was able to cast farther with the 9' heavy
action rod.  In fact, I caught the Blues and Spanish Mackerel only with
that rod.  No luck on the 8' rods.

My wife could not get any rod out there to catch a mackeral or blues.  The
question I have, and I need to keep my wife happy if I want to go back
again, is what type of rod should I get her?  Some locals said that I
should get a 10' or 11' medium action rod.

Any advice would be appreciated, especially by my wife.  She doesn't care
if the string breaks, she just wants to try and grab a fish!  In fact, once
a fish bit the lure, I would let my wife reel the fish in.

Thanks,

------------------------------------------------------------- 
Alan Goldschen                       e-mail: ajg@seas.gwu.edu
Department of EE and CS              Graudate Student
George Washington University
801 22nd Street N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20052








Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr)
Subject: Skunked!!
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 22:46:34 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

For two days in a row I have fished "my" creek, and been skunked.
Loads of fish in there, jumping all over the place, and I could
even *see* then a lot of the time.

Some "nibbles", no good bites though.

The fish would follow my spinner or spoon, but never close to
within about six inches, it was infuriating to watch them do
this.

I can't quite figure what's up. 

Here are the conditions: It is quite hot these days, and the
water level is down a bit. The water is also warming up somewhat.
It hasn't rained much/at all in the area.

Fish were leaping once in awhile, and rolling on the surface
occasionally, but not very active compared to last week.

I tried floating a wet fly under a bobber, and got a nibble or
two, but no better than the spinners.

Some fly guys were there, they were trying both dry and wet stuff
and no luck either.

Advice? I was supposed to bring my SO a "mess of trout" for
dinner in true "provider" style...;-)

-- 
Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of
separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
gourd. --Unknown net.person
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: C.K.Black@massey.ac.nz (C.K. Black)
Subject: Dry fly indicators?
Summary: dry flies
Keywords: watch that fish
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 23:56:09 GMT

Gi'day all,
   Jonathan Cook was asking about nymphs and the use of indicators
on the fly line........
I find the indicators necessary when fishing broken and big water
down here as the only way to tell what is happening at the end of
14' of trace but I have trouble with them when stalking trout visually
in smaller waters.  Whenever I decide to watch the trout rather than
the indicator and vice versa,  it seems that I should have done the
opposite in the circumstance,  and I'll miss the strike.
I have heard of, but haven't tried, using a dry fly and unweighted nymph
combo where the dry acts as a indicator for the nymph and is a possible
target for the trout in its' own right.  Has anyone used this method
and if so have you any tips on the size of the dry needed and length
of trace to the nymph that is practical/possible to cast?
Cheers...........
-- 
Conrad Black 

Email... C.K.Black@massey.ac.nz
Snail... Massey U., Plant Sc. Dept., Palmerston North, New Zealand
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: pro016@muvms3.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: COLORADO FISHING HELP NEEDED
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:14:26 GMT
Organization: Marshall University


ANYONE HAVE ANY INFO ON FISHING NEAR GUNNISON COLORADO.

I WILL BE FISHING THERE OCT. 1-4 AND WOULD LIKE ANY INFO ON FLY
PATTERNS FOR THAT AREA.

THANKS AND TIGHT LINES  PAUL
Xref: sparky rec.outdoors.fishing:360 rec.backcountry:6468
From: mike@ra.cs.umb.edu (Michael J. Thibodeau)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing,rec.backcountry
Subject: Re: Wanted Large FLATBOTTOM-CHEAP!!!
Date: 23 Aug 92 06:37:54 GMT
Followup-To: rec.outdoors.fishing
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston, Dept of Math and CS

Since I am low on money(who isn't these days) I have been pondering the idea of
building my own flat boat. I am living in my parents house and thus have access
to a barn with a large workspace, a garage door so no problems moving a
finished boat out, beautiful Scituate harbor and the North River 1/2 mile down
the street, and a 4 year old who is learning to love fishing and is an
inexaustable helper.

If anyone has any experience in building their own boat or even just watching
someone else I am sure it would be invaluable. If I get enough info I will
combine it into a submission to the Hopefuly soon to appear FAQ

-mike
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: sharris@chopin.udel.edu (Scott A Harris)
Subject: Any advice on fishing the Delaware Bay?
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:13:02 GMT


Would any of you kind people have any advice on fishing in the Delaware bay?

Here's the scoop.  My father had a 14' gamefisher and died 4 years ago,
the boat has been sitting since.  My friend and myself have spent the
last week reparing the 1959 Johnson outboard and and scrubbing the boat.

Now, it seems as though everything is going to work and we would like
to do some fishing from the boat because we are tired of getting poison
ivy in the woods.

Your advice could be anywhere close to DE, not necessarily the bay.
That is just where we though we might catch the biggest fish.

Many thanks.

Scott


-- 
Scott Harris
sharris@chopin.udel.edu
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: bsmith@osf.org (Bruce Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: How to Catch a Big Eel
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:50:07 GMT
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Originator: bsmith@serverx.osf.org

Today's (8/18) Boston Globe had a little blurb about a new state-record eel.
The 8lb, 9oz critter was pulled out of Big Cliff Pond in Brewster, MA, was
46" long, and had a girth of 10+ inches. The lucky angler caught the fish
on 4-lb. test. Smoked eel, anyone?

Bruce Smith
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: fishing with cheese
Date: 21 Aug 92 22:55:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Aug21.181509.23872@Csli.Stanford.EDU> cower@csli.stanford.edu (Richard Cower) writes:
 
|Being a fly fishing person, I have some questions about this fishing with
|food thing:
|
|1. Does imported cheese seem to attract a "better" fish?
 
Have you tried cheeze-whiz?  It comes soft and you can form it into 
any pattern to match the hatch.  The #22 cheeze-whiz trico spinner seems to be
a real killer.  Cheese-whiz on a cracker is deadly for parrotfish.

|2. Are dairy products the only food types you use for fishing? Have you 
|steak? carrots? eggs? ham? salad stuff? What works?
 
I just bought a salad-shooter to make lettuce dubbing.  I'll let you know
how it works.  I've found that 1000 Island Dressing works good as scent mask.
For a real killer pattern try a blended dubbing of romaine and spinich, with
an asparagus tail, and carrot slivers tied split-wing style.  Soak the fly
in blue cheese dressing which not only works as a floatant but is almost
as good as limburger as a scent mask.

|4. Given that you can apparently can use food for bait, have you
|tried using other things? tvs? tires? shoes? sofas? small kitchen
|appliances? I've seen all of these in the water, is it possible one of
|you hooked a big one...and it got off - depositing the bait you were
|using in the water? (I always wondered how this shit got into the water). 
 
I have actually snagged a tennis shoe before.  Coincidentally,  I saw the
other half of the pair on the freeway on my way home.  I had them bronzed 
and their mounted on my mantle.

-- 
+============================================================================++
| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
+============================================================================++
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing,alt.fishing
From: ken@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Ken Shenkman)
Subject: Charters in San Diego
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 13:36:44 GMT


Hi,

I will be visiting San Diego over labor day weekend and was wondering
if someone knew of a good charter boat so i can do some fishing while
out there. i know it's kind of late, but I just decided to go.

Thanks!

Ken Shenkman
ken@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu
From: kjun@typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu (Pat Fitzpatrick)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Colorado Fishing All Tied up in Nylon!
Date: 13 Aug 92 06:51:52 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University -- Atmos Sci

In article <1992Aug13.024423.6740@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> gauss@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (GAUSS  REBECCA BANKER) writes:
>Rebecca and I (this is Ed), the kids, and Grandma went fishing at a
>remote Colorado lake I had not seen for twenty years.  The fishing
>was pretty good for Rainbows.  You could tell that they were all stockers
>as they all fed at 10am which is feeding time at the hachery.  With
>
>Anyway somewhere between tangles I started thinking that all of this nylon
>appeared within 20 years.  Now that stuff is almost indestructbable, expecially
>when submerged in cold water.  Out of 6 fish we hooked, one was lost because

Having been a Colorado resident since January, I have a somewhat nit-picky
question for other Colorado fishermen. What exactly constitutes a good
fishing trip? Of course, I mean by this "fish catching," though I very
much enjoy the beautiful scenery in this state. The reason I bring this
question up is I read the fishing reports about good fishing at a
particular lake, but no specifics about catching. Here's
an example to clarify my question.

Recently I went to Mary's Lake in Estes Park. Supposedly the lake had
been recently stocked, and the fishing was "good." So I went there, along
with at one count 50 other anglers. After a few hours I saw a grand total
of one trout caught. I could name many other similar occurences of supposedly
good fishing that apparently was a tall tale.

You show 6 trout, but it also sounds like you had six people fishing, which
averages one fish apiece. This seems rather slow fishing to me, but I'm just
curious if this is a good average for a cold-water species like brook trout?

Also, who gives these fishing reports? These are definitely overexaggerated,
at least for the lakes and reservoirs. However, for the rivers, the fishing
seems to be rather good, as can be seen by the occasional report given on
this newsgroup for the Spinney Mt area. I have also seen good stringers
from Poudre River, and will start fishing there now.

Hence, I follow up with this question: do lakes and reservoirs offer
generally slow fishing (though they can be good sporadically) while rivers
tend to be more consistent "fish-producers for trout? Just curious, because
I want to get in on this great trout fishing I hear about but so far have 
missed.....

Pat Fitzpatrick -- looking for trout in all the wrong places?
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: plh@cemw6.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron)
Subject: Re: Rod cases
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:56:05 GMT

In article <92Aug14.215538.16875@acs.ucalgary.ca>, powlesla@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jim B. Powlesland) writes:
|> 
|> During my trip to the Yukon this summer, my Plano rod case was
|> wrecked by the airline. The end of my 7' one piece muskie rod
|> inside the case was also snapped off (imagine my delight when I
|> discovered it). I have since been compensated by the airline.
|> 
|> Where can I buy a better rod case?

Jim, 

I don't fly too much with my fishing rods ( 4-times to CA from NC, and 
twice to Hawii) but I have never had any trouble with my home-made 
rod case.  I got a 6.5 ft long hunk of heavy PVC pipe and two end caps
(the pipe might be something like 5-inches in diameter).  I carry three 
rods in the pipe (along with some foam peanuts to keep them from moving 
around), and may be able to fit four (although you have to carefully 
intermesh the guides on the rods).  I can lay this hunk of pipe on the 
ground and jump up and down on it without deflecting the pipe at all, 
with the end-caps on I think it could withstand being driven over by 
a small car.  

It may offend your sensibilities to travel carrying what looks like a 
hunk of sewer pipe through the airport, but the price it right.

		-Pat
 
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: shan@niwot.scd.ucar.edu (Val Shanahan)
Subject: Re: Tipping your guide
Organization: Scientific Computing Divison/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:41:29 GMT


	I have had a guide when I've gone fishing on the White river near
Mountain Home, Arkansas.  We always ask for the same guide as he has always
been very good at what he does, guiding the boat, knowing where the fish are biting and what they are bitng on, and cooking a wonderful lunch for us.  We alib
(oops) always tip at least 20%, but we usually do go a little over-board when
on vacation.  We have also always caught our limit and then some (c & R).

Val
From: jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com (Joe Whittemore)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: re : rod cases
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:28:06 GMT
Reply-To: jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com.UUCP (Joe Whittemore)
Organization: LES Engineering in Westfield, Ma.

In article <1992Aug19.141147.29555@unixland.natick.ma.us> bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Downing) writes:
>
>For those who're too lazy to build their own, I've found the biggest
>Plano tube (with carrying handle) to be just fine. It also telescopes
>to fit any larger rods that you may buy later. It's survived two trips
>to Alaska, one trip to New Zealand, one trip to British Columbia, and
>one trip to Nova Scotia/Newfoundland without a problem. Maybe I'm just
>lucky :-)
>
>

    Having made "two trips to Alaska, one trip to New Zealand, one trip to
    British Columbia, and one trip to Nova Scotia/Newfoundland" I'd not only
    say you're "lucky" I'd say you're a master of understatment!    =)

       ("Maybe I'm just lucky" indeed..... I'd KILL for such "luck".....)

--
Joe Whittemore - From where the Westfield
                      Meets the Westfield
                         By the Westfield
                            In Huntington (MA)

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Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: gauss@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (GAUSS  REBECCA BANKER)
Subject:  Colorado Fishing All Tied up in Nylon!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 02:44:23 GMT

Rebecca and I (this is Ed), the kids, and Grandma went fishing at a
remote Colorado lake I had not seen for twenty years.  The fishing
was pretty good for Rainbows.  You could tell that they were all stockers
as they all fed at 10am which is feeding time at the hachery.  With
the kids, I spent most of my time untangling lures from the various tangles
of nylon that were about and threading worms.  Notice: before having any
kids understand that worm threading is by convention a Daddy job.  How
many of you considered that while home in bed?

Anyway somewhere between tangles I started thinking that all of this nylon
appeared within 20 years.  Now that stuff is almost indestructbable, expecially
when submerged in cold water.  Out of 6 fish we hooked, one was lost because
it entangled in a big nylon wad that was out in deep water.  If nylon is
deposited by fishermen at the same rate just how many more years before
those nice mountain lakes are one big nylon tangle?  I think it will be less
than 100 years.  Somewhere about 40 years in the future we will need special
lures with line cutters on them much in the manner that old time submarines
used to cut harbor nets.  It may happen much sooner.  We sure could have
used one on that fish what we lost.

Have any of you ecology experts worried about all that nylon?

                        --Ed

Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: plh@eos.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron)
Subject: Re: A Big Cat Tale [WAS: First Muskie]
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:56:46 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.160814.16631@news2.cis.umn.edu>, gdw@moose.cccs.umn.edu (Gavin Watt) writes:

|> "Don't know, it's big, and I got it on 4 lb line on an ultrlight"  
|> 
|> We guessed it was 20+ pounds so we called it a 30 -- forgot to measure


A very good story, I don't have my book handy, but a 20+# catfish 
on 4# test might be a line class word record.  I guess that seeing 
is beleiving.

			-Pat.