From: txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: rec.motorcycles.harley
Keywords: don't break up guys ! STAY AS ONE !!!!
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:07:48 GMT
Distribution: usa

naik@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Raghunandan Naik) writes:




>	HI ALL !!!!!!!!!

>I have been following the attempts to form a new group " rec.motorcycles.harley"on the net and I have a few things to say about it.  

>	1) As motocycilst's ( regardless of the make model ) all of us 
>	   know that in America we are cnsidered to be a minority.  In 
>	   other words, the ratio between "cagers" and motorcyclists is 
>	   at least about 1000 : 1.  

Granted. 

>	2) We have been (for a long time now) trying to make the rest of 
>	   America "aware" of our presence. 

Again, granted.

>	3) We cannot afford to break up into even smaller groups.  Today 
>	   someone wants to start a Harley group, tommorow someone else 
>	   is going to want to start a Suzuki or a Honda or a japanese
>	   motorcycle group.  If we break up into smaller groups, we will
>	   no longer be able to work towards gaining recognition of 
>	   " THE MOTORCYCLIST"  .

Listen, we are trying to get a *subgroup* in the rec.motorcycles
hierchy. There will be precous few if any that would leave
rec.motorcycles. I and most whom I have spoken to would use it as a
forum for specific Harley posts which meet with considerable flamage
in rec.motorcycles. There would also be those who do not at this time
participate in rec.motorcycles that would participate in
rec.motorcycles.harley. This would strengthen, not weaken the
rec.motorcycles hierchy. Those who would leave, already have some time ago.

>	
>	4) All I'm asking for is that the people who want to start their 
>	   own groups, should wait just a little longer. They must wait 
>	   untilthe population of motorcyclists grows to a substantial
>	   number. 

No. This would not werve anyone's purpose other than those who for
their own reasons do not want to see rec.motorcycles.harley formed. We
are still motorcyclists.

>	5) I personally have nothing for or against forming a new group
>	   for Harley's but I have one message to convey to anyone trying
>	   to start rec.motorcycles.harleyIf and when you do start a new
>	   group, be ready to accept the fact that you yourself have decided
>	   to be different from others and if others treat and consider you to
>	   be outsiders and different you are responsible not them !!!!   

BULLSHIT. The formation of the group has absolutely nothing to do with
"being different"-your words, not mine. The "noise" level generated by
posting Harley related posts has driven the request for a new group in
the hierchy. 

>	 thanks for hearing me out 

Please listen to what we have to say.

>	
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