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From: Rich Anthony
Subject: Re: SWC Preview for 11/7
Organization: Bell Northern Research
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 05:01:55 GMT


>HOUSTON at SMU
>--------------
>
>Houston lost 9 turnovers last week but had enough of an offense to
>still win the game.  If they reduce the number of turnovers, they will
>have no problems with the ponies.  If they don't reduce the number of
>turnovers, they will still win against the ponies. Klingler will go
>all the way at QB again since Douglas, the other starter, is still
>suffereing from fallen arches. Note: this is SMU's first senior class
>since they came back from the death penalty. The seniors were on the
>team that was pasted 95-21 in 1989 by the Cougars in the Astrodome.
>The won't get revenge or anything, we just thought we'd mention it. ;-)
>
>Predictions: Goober  Houston 42, SMU 17
>
>
Didn't we so confidently call this one right? ;)

SMU is 1 field goal away from .500 (13-12 loss to Tulane)




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From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Subject: Re: Marsee Ratings & Predictions for 11/07/92
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 14:59:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: VMARK Software, Inc.

In article <1992Nov3.124937.1276@newstand.syr.edu> demarsee@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darryl E. Marsee) writes:
>MARSEE DIV I-A COLLEGE FOOTBALL COMPUTER RANKINGS FOR WEEKEND ENDING 10/31/92
>
>       (Power ratings in parenthesis - ties broken by defensive rating)
>
>  1. NEBRASKA       (923)  37. MISSISSIPPI ST (609)  73. TOLEDO         (485)
>  2. WASHINGTON     (906)  38. HAWAII         (600)  74. SAN JOSE STATE (484)
>  3. MICHIGAN       (882)  39. FRESNO STATE   (600)  75. TULSA          (483)
>  4. FLORIDA STATE  (844)  40. SAN DIEGO ST   (599)  76. LOUISIANA ST   (472)
>  5. NOTRE DAME     (825)  41. UTAH           (597)  77. NORTHWESTERN   (470)
>  6. SOUTHERN CAL   (809)  42. RUTGERS        (596)  78. COLORADO STATE (470)
>  7. ALABAMA        (787)  43. WISCONSIN      (594)  79. OREGON STATE   (464)
>  8. CALIFORNIA     (784)  44. INDIANA        (588)  80. MINNESOTA      (461)
>  9. MIAMI          (770)  45. BAYLOR         (584)  81. NEW MEXICO     (459)
> 10. VIRGINIA       (762)  46. PURDUE         (581)  82. EAST CAROLINA  (458)

I think things like this is why I have little respect for computer rankings..
No offense at all to Darryl, as he has done a great job in putting in the 
effort to have one, but look at that top 10...

Nebraska, who has played a fairly easy schedule, with the only tests coming
at Washington and against Colorado.  They lose to Washington, and they are
ranked above UW??  Washington hasn't yet lost, and has beaten Nebraska, 
USC, Cal, and Stanford...  That isn't too bad..  And what about Ol' Cal???
At 4-4, they are hardly a power, with losses to Purdue, Washington, USC,
and Arizona and their only wins against San Jose St, Kansas, Oregon St.,
and UCLA.   Pretty tough schedule, but they lost 4 of the games.  And they
are a #8 team???  As opposed to a Miami, who has played the likes of
FSU, Arizona, Penn State, and W. Virginia, and has no loses???


I know, I rank on the computer rankings a lot, but I have yet to see one that
looks that realistic in it's rankings.  
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From: ds4@soc4.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: WE WANT MIAMI!!
Keywords: Nebraska best team in the nation again!
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:01:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.6825

In article <skipb.721191476@cwis>, skipb@cwis.unomaha.edu (Skip Burrell) writes:
|> Allright!! Nebraska has shown it is once again a legitimate top 5 team. And
|> with Smokin' Tommie Frazier at QB, the Husker offense has become a truly
|> irresistable force. The Blackshirts have turned up their game a few notches to

That is what everyone said last year.  Almost everyone thought Nebraska was going
to run all over Miami and squash them.  Well, Nebraska, which averaged over 450
yards last season couldn't even get a hundred.  Plus Alot of their yards came
against second string.

|> become a dominant defense. THE HUSKER'S ARE BACK!! :-) :-) :-)
|> 
|> So I'm rooting for Bama and A&M to get upset so we can play Miami again and
|> see in a reversal of the 1983 OB game. I now believe we can beat Miami in
|> Miami. Anyway, I'd like to have the chance to prove it. C'mon Florida and
|> Texas, help us out! :-)

I would like to have Bama and A&M lose so Miami can play Nebraska.  No team knows
how to lose the big ones like the Huskers.  Miami would clobber them and send
them back to the fields.

|> 
|> To Bama and A&M fans: its nothing personal, you're just in our way right now.
|> :-) :-) :-)
|> 
|> --
|> Skip Burrell				Internet:	skipb@unomaha.edu
|> Comp. Sci. Graduate Student		compuserve: 	76146,2323
|> University of Nebraska at Omaha		AOL:		skipb
|> My Disclaimer: Any opinion I may have stated was purely unintentional!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: ragraca@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Randy A. Graca)
Subject: BIG recruiting question
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:05:36 GMT


I heard a rumor today on the radio (and I don't currently have any info
to back it up)  that the NCAA was going to place a cap on the total
amount of athletic scholarship awards that a given university may
distribute to its recruits for football.  Does anyone know if the NCAA
is in fact considering such a measure, and if so, do you have any
details?

Thanks, 

rag

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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: Torretta for the Heisman?
Organization: University of Michigan
	<1992Nov4.194225.19091@lgc.com>,<AG==m9@engin.umich.edu>
	<1992Nov4.232523.7490@ultb.isc.rit.edu> <6799@news.duke.edu>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:18:03 GMT

In article <6799@news.duke.edu> ds4@soc7.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS) writes:

   In article <1992Nov4.232523.7490@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, djt2445@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
   |> Jeez, why? He's not even the best QB in his own conference, for crying out
   |> loud!
   |> 
   |> I mean, Marvin Graves, Glen Foley, even Alex Van Pelt have to be better QB

   If you are going only by rating (which it seems like you are doing), you do not

He said the others were better, and none of them are *clearly* not in
torettas class.  Why did you conclude that he was talking about qb rating?

   understand football much.  Out of the four quarterbacks in question, Torretta has
   the most inexperienced line protecting him, and the weakest running game. This

Thats a little hard to swallow.  Miami has been raking in top 5 recruiting
classes for a decade now.  The line may not be experienced but they are all
top prospects, like the backs.

   means that Torretta is not only forced to throw alot, but under a great deal of
   pressure. The fact that he is doing this well in that situation, and in crunch
   time, he always comes through (just ask FSU) is what makes him a great
   quarterback.

You seem to have conviently ignored the fact that just about everybody agrees
that Miami has the #1 receiving corps in the country this year.  

Bill
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Subject: Re: Pepsi State vs. BYU, Marshall Faulk vs. BYU
From: Spiro the Spiny Goldfish <MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 09:36:42 EST
Organization: Penn State University

In article <17196@borg.cs.unc.edu>, morse@cs.unc.edu (Bryan Morse) says:
>
>But Mark, haven't you heard the excuses already?
>
>It seems that after the losses to Miami and BC, and removal from any
>MNC contention, Pepsi State (*sob*) just didn't have anything left to
>play for.

Gee, I remember saying something like:

>Gladly. Unlike yourself, I can admit when I was wrong, and this is certainly
>one of those times. The reason has something to do with BYU improving, a lot
>to do with Penn State going down the tubes, and probably a little bit to do
>with Penn State being overrated. Sprinkle in a dash of Penn State having no
>reason to care whether or not they win the rest of their games, and voila -
>instant poor performance.

which would seem to indicate I thought the "nothing to play for" business was
only a bit of the cause.

Of course, I must be mistaken, since you're always right.
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: National Champs
Keywords: Roll Tide
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 16:27:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.134248.11909@b15.ingr.com> pruett@b15.ingr.com (Debbie Pruett) writes:
>Like the guy on ESPN says!!!
>Bama  COULD  GO  ALL  THE  WAY!!!!!!!!
>BAMA is playing great!!! Hope they dont choke!!!
>3 games until our National Championship!!!

It is interesting that, barring fairly big upsets, the much-reviled
bowl alliance will probably achieve its goal in its first year, by 
matching #1 Miami against #2 Alabama.  Of course, chances are that
matchup would have occurred this year, anyway, even without the bowl
alliance.

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Subject: Re: ND/PSU--third time's a charm?
From: <JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:55:13 EST
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Nov9.214653.1@fnalo.fnal.gov>, traynor@fnalo.fnal.gov says:
>
>Oh _puhleeeeaaase_ let's beat Penn State this year........
>
>                                        -Mike Traynor
>
Oooh, Mike, be careful.  You don't want to set you goals too high, now
do you?

Jim Thomas
Penn State

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Subject: Re: New A&M QB (was Lee Corso's prediction)
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:56:55 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <1992Nov10.233911.11908@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu> alan@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu writes:

> HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:
> 
> >I write:
> 
> >> mmarolda@NeoSoft.com (Mike Marolda) writes:
> >> 
> >> They haven't had time to work on moves after the catch.  They've been too
> >> busy taking fielding practice up to this point (keep the ball in front of
> >> you, and keep the glove on the ground...)
> 
> >  Too true, too true.  But really, has all Austin gotten this depressed?  It's
> >come down to little jabs at Aggie problems that have (hopefully) gone away...
> >What happened to all those "SPANK the Aggies" posts?  I almost miss them.  
> 
> Gee, you *haven't* been paying attention, have you?   I'm far from a Longhorn
> fan.  As a matter of fact, I've been a reasonably vocal and remarkably
> objective Jayhawk poster (is this a setup line or *what*?).  

   Oops.  You're a *Kansas* fan.  Well, that explains why I hadn't read you 
before.  I have read very few Kansas posts.  And of course, when I saw the 
FROM: line, I assumed...

  Ah well.  I'm an Aggie.  I'm allowed, nay expected, to look foolish.

> >  Seriously, I haven't seen any whining out of the Longhorn fans on the net, 
> >and for that you guys should be commended.
> 
> Well, they're keeping it off the net, but hooooooey, you should hear it around
> the coffee machine.  Yeesh.

  You have my sympathies. :-)

> And speaking of whining, you should have caught my synopsis of the Nebraska
> game.  Of classic vintage.

  I'm sorry I missed it.  I need to brush up on my technique! :-)


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
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From: yvonne@well.sf.ca.us (Yvonne Lee)
Subject: Re: Bowl Game for Michigan State?
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:01:24 GMT

In <11NOV199210522811@scsuc.ctstateu.edu> aboufadel@scsuc.ctstateu.edu (ABOUFADEL,E) writes:

>If the Spartans win their last two games (a reasonable possibility -- they
>play Purdue at home and then the finale at Illinois), it will give them a
>6-2 Big Ten record (which, I admit, doesn't say much this year) and a 6-5
>overall record, which means that they get past one hurdle towards a bowl bid:
>6 wins.

>Now, I'm not talking about any presigious bowl here, but how about something
>like the Hall of Fame bowl or one of those other pre-New Year "Extravaganzas"?

>Actually, there are a few Big Ten schools in this position, where a late 
>season win or two could give make them look somewhat attractive to a bowl.
>And the Big Ten teams have a reputation of bringing a lot of fans to these
>bowl games.

>Any thoughts?

>Ed Aboufadel
>MSU '86



The Hall of Fame Bowl will decide by Sunday (6 EST) whether it will take a Big
10 team
Ten team.  That bowl had a commitment to take the #3 Big Ten team, but as a
Coalition bowl (I think) required teams to have 8 wins.
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From: willmsch@buzz.rtp.dg.com (Royce Willmschen)
Subject: Re: How Billy Joe Hobert Spends Money
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 16:20:11 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, Research Triangle Park, NC

In article <HqB=XaC@engin.umich.edu>, chyang@australorp.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:

> > Nobody noticed Billy Joe driving up to practice in his '92 Camaro with the
> > semiautomatic hunting rifle in the gun rack?  None of his friends asked about
> > his new $4,000 stereo?  Sounds like the Sgt. Schultz school of harsh 
> > discipline to me!
> > 
> 
> 	His friends may have noticed, but the coaching staff certainly did
> not.  Do you think that Don James would go hunting or partying with Billy
> Joe?  
> 
> - Chung Yang

No.  That's not the point.  We can debate for hours about whether or not it
is the coaching staff's job to watch out for these types of problems.  However,
the bury-your-head-in-the-sand approach is bound to backfire some time.  Seems
like James would have, at some point, asked his former #1 quarterback, "Hey 
Billy Joe, How'd you manage to get that new car we've seen you drivin' around
in?" or "Billy Joe, I promised your mom and dad that I'd take care of you here
in Seattle, how's life going?  I hear your separated from your wife." or
"Billy Joe, Big Bubba Lineman said he really likes your new stereo and he
appreciates all the beer you've been buying him.  Did you get a job?  You know
that's against NCAA regulations, don't you?"

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From: mp@sparcler.cc.ncsu.edu (Manoj Kumar Patel)
Subject: Re: RECRUITING: Defensive Backs
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:24:25 GMT

mminihan@inetg1.ARCO.COM (Mike Minihan) writes:

>Defensive Backs....
...
>32. Kinon TATUM            FAY Byrd, NC                 UNC,NCST,CLEM
                                                             ^^^^

Another recruit has heard of us - I love it!
...
...        
>                                CORNERBACK
...
>18. Derrick Thornton       Bladenburg, MD               MIA,NEB,MD,NCST
                                                                    ^^^^
This one is not even from NC. Be still my beating heart. We are going
to be big time.
...
>25. Jamel Williams         Merrillville, IN             IND,MIST,MIA
>Mike Minihan      mminihan@arco.com

Manoj (not implying State doesn't get all the top recruits of course) Patel.

P.S. Thanks for posting the lists Mike. They are very much appreciated
(if nothing else than to hit home how low on the totem pole we are
recruiting wise).

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From: alan@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Alan Martin)
Subject: Re: Nebraska's rival is KU?
Organization: Applied Research Labs, University of Texas at Austin
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:47:07 GMT

UCPL081@UNLVM.UNL.EDU writes:

>According to the CU fans, we must consider them a rival because of the goal-
>posts coming down after the NU-CU game.  Well, for the KU game we stormed the
>field and tried to tear'em down too (they were greased this time), but alas
>we failed.  So, I guess KU is our rival now?  I don't hear any KU fans out
>there saying that since we celebrated so much after the win over KU that we
>are their rivals, but in CU's book I guess we are your rivals now KU.

It's the thread that wouldn't die....

While recognizing the sarcasm (and the Buffalo baiting), I must say that having
Nebraska pay attention to us would be about the worst news imaginable.  Look at
what they've done when we weren't worthy of their consideration.  Imagine the
carnage if they actually cared.  God, the humanity...

Seriously, though, since when do Nebraska fans rip down goalposts after *any*
victory?  The fans I remember considered a victory, especially one over Kansas,
to be a birthright.  They just came to the stadium to reassure themselves of
the world order.  After the games in Lawrence, they'd just harrumph in
satisfaction, slap another bumpersticker on the Winnebago, toot the fight
song on the horn a couple of times, and trundle on back up I-29.  Why the hell
would you storm the field after racking up your 24th consecutive win over
somebody?


Goal posts, indeed.


					Who, me, bitter?
					Al
					alan@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu
From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: National Champs
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:28:19 GMT

In article <BxIz8z.4Jw@encore.com> jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich) writes:

   pruett@b15.ingr.com (Debbie Pruett) writes:

   >Like the guy on ESPN says!!!
   >Bama  COULD  GO  ALL  THE  WAY!!!!!!!!
   >BAMA is playing great!!! Hope they dont choke!!!
   >3 games until our National Championship!!!
   >R-O-L-L T-I-D-E!!!

   >(some UM fan will have some BS to say i'm sure)

[Note: this is just targeted for Justin, since he's such a jerk]

   Here's one UM fans answer : I hope the Tide and the Canes stay undefeated

You've come into the middle of this.  Debbie and i have a bit of a thing
going.  UM isn't U of Miami, its UM.  Thats the one with the long strong
football and academic history.  You know, Michigan.


Bill
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From: farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Bri "Droopy" Farenell)
Subject: Re: National Champs
Keywords: Roll Tide
Organization: Clarkson University
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:59:41 GMT

pruett@b15.ingr.com (Debbie Pruett) writes:

>Like the guy on ESPN says!!!
>Bama  COULD  GO  ALL  THE  WAY!!!!!!!!
>BAMA is playing great!!! Hope they dont choke!!!
>3 games until our National Championship!!!
>R-O-L-L T-I-D-E!!!

>(some UM fan will have some BS to say i'm sure)

Here's to Miami-Alabama in the Sugar Bowl.

But dont forget that Miami has to go to Syracuse and Bama will probably
play Georgia (?) for the SEC title.
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From: kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Va Tech and UVa predictions
Keywords: 1 more week, 1 more week...
Date: 13 Nov 92 19:31:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bell Communications Research

In article <1e0iffINNe6i@rave.larc.nasa.gov>, goodrich@lynx.larc.nasa.gov (Mike Goodrich) writes:
|> In article <1dum1kINN1m3@rave.larc.nasa.gov>, mln@sunkj.larc.nasa.gov (Michael L Nelson) writes:
|> |> 
|> |> UVa is idle.
|> |> 
|> 
|> Well, next week is the season finale. I think the days of a big emotional
|> advantage for the Hokies is mostly over. However, that notwithstanding, I 
|> think the Hokies will take this one as well. Partly I base this on my
|> feeling that I've observed Tech handling adversity better than UVa,

How does a 2-6-1 record with four blown 4th quarter leads point to being 
able to "handle adversity"?  This is a VT team that practically begs their 
opponents to come back on them in games rather than putting them away.

|> perhaps partly due to UVa's success in recent seasons and the fact that
|> Tech has seen some real adversity this season. 

Both teams have SEEN adversity this year.  I have yet to figure out how
VT has risen above theirs given their lack of mental toughness on the field.

|>                                                However I beleive they've
|> established a trend of putting it together, whereas I feel UVa has
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The only trend Va Tech has recently put together is a six game winless 
streak with a couple of classic chokes to carry on the tradition.  

|> regressed. I really think turnovers will determine this one: Hokies in a
|> closer one than I would like:
|> 
|> Va Tech 17    UVa 15 

I'm hoping for a win, but I just don't know.  After witnessing that Rutgers 
game, I'm not sure what to believe about this team.  UVa hasn't been playing
as strong as they did last year, but I don't know what sort of positives you 
can find out of Va Tech's performances this year to believe they're going 
put it together.

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