From: madkins@lonestar.utsa.edu (Martin L. Adkins)
Subject: Re: Rush Limbaugh on Madonna (was Re: Summary Mon 10/5/92)
Keywords: Unofficial Summary Rush Limbaugh
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Distribution: world,usa,alt,na
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:29:40 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.022235.15230@s1.gov> lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.232140.1297@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> madkins@lonestar.utsa.edu (Martin L. Adkins) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct6.011858.13643@umbc3.umbc.edu> alex@engr3.umbc.edu (alex) writes:
>@ 	[Rush denegrades Madonna, deleted]
>
>
>>While Madonna may indeed make more money than Rush Limbaugh the fact is that
>>her whole act is designed to ridicule traditional values.  As a result I'm
>>sure that she wouldnt mind that Rush considers her less than morally upright.
>>As a matter of fact as long as her image continues to sell records I'm quite
>>sure she would be grateful for the advertisement.  Now as to whether or not
>>a blatantly promiscuous lifestyle is something anyone should be demonstrating
>>in this disease ridden time is another matter.  Come to think of it, with the
>>book, the newsletter, the radio show and the television show I'm not so sure
>>that Madonna does make more money than Rush and he dosent even have to
>>publicly exploit himself!!
>
>	"Ridicule traditional values" -- What are "traditional
>values", and how does she do the ridiculing? I think that we have some
>awfully thin skins here...
>
>	I'm sure that she would agree with Alex Crain about RL being
>jealous of her. And she is a lot more positive than RL also, whose
>whole act seems to consist of: "Anything going wrong? Those *liberals*
>(spoken in a tone of sneering contempt) are to blame." There are some
>things that she criticizes, and not surprisingly, she comes down to
>the opposite side from RL on many issues. I will concede that she may
>represent an awkward dilemma for many liberals -- she has a lot of
>$'s -- but I guess it's better her than the likes of Pat Robertson.
>
>	Furthermore, Madonna has come out with several big-selling
>albums, videos, and tours over the years, so it would be hard for RL
>to compete money-wise.
>
>	"Blatantly promiscuous lifestyle" -- like what??? Do you have
>direct knowledge of who Madonna goes to bed with??? Not even the
>National Enquirer...
>
>	And there is another aspect of her career that is sure to
>enrage a lot of conservatives -- she has gotten essentially no
>government funding for her career. So that means that they can't order
>the NEA to pull the financial plug on her. The closest she has ever
>come to government funding was going to the University of Michigan on
>a fine-arts scholarship to be a dancer and also her being in some NYC
>dance troupes, which may have gotten some government money in the form
>of grants. But no government money has ever gone into what she would
>be doing after that, which has been financed in purely capitalistic
>ways. And capitalism is something that conservatives are supposed to
>admire. The hard work and entrepreneurship she has put into her career
>are things celebrated as traditional American values, yet social
>conservatives have not been very admiring of her.
>
>	Ideologically, I think her career would fall into the
>Libertarian mold -- liberal on social issues, conservative on economic
>issues.
>         largely deleted due to irrelevance.

>~1979: She starts a series of rock bands, and poses nude because she
>needed the money.
>
>  84                                        ... F
>Hit, "Like a Virgin" released. Comments that "Crucifixes are sexy
>because there's a naked man on them."
>
>1985: Yuppie anthem "Material Girl" released, goes on "Virgin Tour",
>the albums becomes a hit, marries Sean Penn.
>
>1986: _Shanghai Surprise_ released, flops. "True Blue" a hit album.
>
>1987: "Who's That Girl" -- the tour is a hit, the movie flops. She
>
>1989: She divorces Sean after a tumultuous marriage. A deal with Pepsi
>to promote "Like a Prayer" album, single, video, and possible tour
>signed. The first three are released, the album does fairly well, the
>video is called blasphemous, and Pepsi pulls out, canceling the tour.
>She walks away with the $5m of the deal.
>
>1990: Goes on "Blonde Ambition" tour [I actually saw a show of it],
>gets denounced by the Vatican for blasphemy. _Dick Tracy_, costarring
>her and Warren Beatty, released.
>
>1991: Releases tour movie _Truth or Dare_ and also "The Immaculate
>Collection" of her greatest hits. Makes a video for "Justify my Love"
>that MTV gags on as supposedly being too raunchy. Awkwardly defends
>herself on _Nightline_, asks why violence is OK but sex isn't.
>
>1992 [so far]: _A League of their Own_ is released, with Madonna in a
>not-quite-starring role. She starts her own record label and (as I
>write) is just about to release a rather raunchy album called
>"Erotica" and a rather raunchy book called "Sex".
>
>
After all you have included in your summary you demonstrate quite
adequately the values she ridicules and these are indeed traditional
values.  As to your question as to whether I know of her promiscuous lifestyle
I can only judge by the film you conviniently mention for me.  Truth or dare
was decadence  on parade for me.  As to any possible jealousy on the part of
Mr. Limbaugh, in life you will findthe confident are seldom jealous of anyone
let alone pop stars.