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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: helmets
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:41:23 GMT

baxter@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Baxter) writes:

>Well everone, I'm in the market for a helmet.

I'm quite happy with my new Shoei VF-X full-face helmet. (Open-face
helmets suck!) It's very light, has pretty good ventilation, though the
eyeport doesn't leave a lot of room around my Scott over-the-glasses
goggles. It was about $230 in plain white from Chaparral (Shoei wants
over a hundred bucks more for their tape stripes).

>The helmet that I'm thinking of buying is a custom painted Bell Moto4.

Good helmet, but nevermind the paint. Does it _FIT_ your head? Even for
a hundred bucks it's no deal if you & your friend have different sized/
shaped heads.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: jerdman@evans.den.mmc.com (ERDMAN)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: HELP: P/N 13066-1023
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:30:19 GMT
Organization: MMAG

I own a Kawasaki 1984 KX500.

I sheared the kickstart shaft off my bike 15 minutes before a 100 mile enduro
in Julesburg Co.  Kawasaki has them back-ordered until at least the end of the
month and the Fall Poker Run is Sept. 20.
If ANYONE can help please email immediately.  Am desparate.  I haven't missed
a poker run in 4 years and do not want to break my record.

P.S. I already called several places listed in Dirt Rider to no avail.  Even 
called several used places. (An 85 shaft won't work).

I do not need the kickstarter itself, just the shaft.

Just in case anyone wants to help, my home phone is (303) 932-9897.

Thanks in advance.

Joe Erdman
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: wardman@gandalf.ca (Russel Wardman)
Subject: Re: preferred support vehicles
Organization: Gandalf Data Ltd.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:48:13 GMT

In <1992Sep2.143411.9743@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:

>hesh@cup.hp.com (Chris Steinbroner) writes:
>>imagine you had a bunch of money (we can dream, can't we?)
>>and you wanted to get your ideal dirt bike support vehicle
>>and towing rig.  just what would that be?

>Your money? A huge Winnebago, pulling a huge enclosed trailer with
>enough room for a workshop as well as bike storage.

>My money? '92 Toyota stretch cab 4x4 pickup, and used, $50 dollar,
>three bike trailer.

>Since it is my only cage, I picked a smaller truck so I could afford
>to drive it on a regular basis (we do have winter here). But the Toyota
>is larger than most of the small trucks, the same size as Dodge's
>"mid-size" Dakota. I got the stretch cab so there'd be room for my long
>legs, as well as room for gear inside the truck. Don't plan on putting
>anyone in the back seats for any length of time. The 7' bed is a perfect
                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^

You sure its 7 feet? I think the mini trucks have short and long beds of 
6 and 7 feet respectively. The full size trucks are 7 and 8 feet.

Too bad you can't get a mini truck with stretch cab and long bed!
-- 
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**        Hardware Designer        **     Nepean, Ontario Canada       **
**    Network Components Group     **          613-723-6500            **
**  (rwardman@hobbit.gandalf.ca)   **                                  **
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Bob Pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: truly unintersting post about some minor mods to my bike
Date: 24 Aug 92 02:15:33 GMT
Organization: Disorganized Organization


so i went to radio shithouse today and picked up some 12v quick-connects
and installed them on my front turnsignals.  now, when i'm ready to ride
dirt, i can just remove the mirrors and turnsignals and away we go!

yesterday i went down to the local hardware store and picked up some
3/4" pvc and a few #16 hose clamps.  a bit of sawing and a few beads 
of sweat and i now have a kryptonite lock carrier.

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
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From: logname@rtc.atk.com (name)
Subject: Re: XR200 Price?
Keywords: XR200, Price
Organization: organization
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 02:37:53 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.212530.25504@access.usask.ca> donald@dvinci.USask.Ca (David Donald) writes:
>Hi, all.  Hope things are going well.
>
>A while ago, I posted an article asking for recommendations on a new bike, and
>after all the votes were in, I decided I would likely buy a new (newer?) RMX
>250 when the time came (likely spring of 1993.)  
>
>However... One of my uncles has an '86 or '87 XR200 that I might be interested 
>in.  This bike is clean.  Well, perhaps clean is not the best word.  Immaculate
>might be better.  The man is obsessed (sp?) with keeping his equipement in 
>primo condition, and better yet, he has barely ridden this cause he likes his
>Polaris 4 wheeler better (is the man deluded or what?? :)
>
>Anyways... I've ridden it and I think it's pretty cool and would make a good 
>intermediate step back into riding for me (and keep me riding until I can 
>afford an RMX).  So what's a good price for it?
>
>Thanks again.
>
>David
>-- 
>| donald@dvinci.usask.ca		| "Its 106 miles to Chicago, we've got|
>| Communications Systems Research Group |  a full tank of gas, half a pack of |
>| University of Saskatchewan		|  cigarettes, it's dark, and we're   |
>| Saskatoon, Canada			|  wearing sunglasses."  "Hit it."    |

David,
According to the 1992 Intertec Sport Vehicle Blue Book, the values are:

model          new retail    low       high       resale
86 XR200R        1648        428        576        748
87 XR200R        1998        559        759        986

The low and high are the estimated average trade in values less repairs.
The resale is the estimated average resale price.

I hope this helps.

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From: ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Robert H. Yang)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Beginning Dirt Riding
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:13:39 GMT
Reply-To: ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu

In article <1992Aug31.132801.13429@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, rroberts@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ross Allan Roberts) writes:
>>   - While I would like a dirt machine, my car can't tow, so I'm
> What kinda car? I had an Escort, and while I never towed with it (legally :-) 
> it could probablly handle a small trailer and my quad...

	A '90 Plymouth Laser, sort of like a Mitsubishi Eclipse..  The owner's
manual has some kind of warning about not towing anything...  I assume it's
got to do with the frame geometry or something ?
--
Rob Yang (Pittsburgh, PA, U.S.A) RYANG@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU
'92 CBR600F2 (Hon) "It hisses on snakes." AMA 642916 DoD 0593
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: couyant@convex.com (George Couyant)
Subject: Re: Moose Flywheel mod
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 07:09:00 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

> From: wardman@gandalf.ca (Russel Wardman)
> Subject: Re: Moose Flywheel mod
> 
> Changing from aluminum to steel clutch plates will also help. It also
>  
	Yea, I put steel plates into one of the CR's. To be quite honest,
	I didn't notice any difference. It's worth it just to keep the oil
	clean though. 
	
	Just be careful with the thickness of the plates. Steel ones are
	often slightly thinner than alloy. On the CR, I ended up with one
	more clutch plate pair to bring the thickness up and had to shorten 
	the actuating rod in the clutch to bring the action back to 
	something reasonable. The overall thickness of the plate assembly
	ended up thicker than stock with a resultant firmer clutch lever.
	An extra benefit is that with the extra platesand added spring
	tension, it's got no chance of slipping (..he says with a grin on 
	his face...).

	And why did I bother with all this? The frigg'n thing was worn and
	I couldn't bring myself to pay mega $$ for the stock CR parts. A
	trip to the salvage yard with the CR's plates in hand, had "near
	new" clutch parts from an XL (I think) for under $20.

	Cheers
	George Couyant
From: checksix@flyboy.EBay.Sun.COM (Al Conte)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: New Rubber
Date: 31 Aug 1992 23:33:08 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: checksix@flyboy.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: flyboy.ebay.sun.com
Keywords: Michelin Motocross

Since I have to order the Moose flywheel, and it takes about two weeks,
I decided to try a new piece of rubber on the back first.
I picked up one of Michelin's new motocross offerings.
It is rated as an intermediate to hard design, and looks to me like
their desert tire with a split center knob.
I'll try it out next week and give a report to the group.
the size is 140x80x18, it's a big'en, and should slow down some of the slip
out on the dust coated teflon type trails.



Al



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From: wardman@gandalf.ca (Russel Wardman)
Subject: Re: preferred support vehicles
Organization: Gandalf Data Ltd.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:12:30 GMT

In <Btx48A.Mr6@cup.hp.com> hesh@cup.hp.com (Chris Steinbroner) writes:


>imagine you had a bunch of money (we can dream, can't we?)
>and you wanted to get your ideal dirt bike support vehicle
>and towing rig.  just what would that be?

Depends on your requirements. If I were buying such a vehicle,
I'd buy a cube van, but I already have primary vehicle and I
don't need a bike-hauler that can get into remote areas.
A friend of mine bought a used MAC tools truck that he now uses for
his road-racing. I imagine a bread-truck or something else of this 
nature would be about the same. I'd want one that allowed access
to the cube from the drivers compartment. Hinge your bed to the wall
so you can have room to work on your bike, and move your bike to the back
when its time to sleep. Cuts down on hotel bills and keeps your bike
safe from vandals, thieves, etc.. Since I don't have "a bunch of money"
I will continue to put my bike in the back of my 4wd ford ranger. 

Let us know what you buy.

Russell 
>-- hesh
-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: couyant@convex.com (George Couyant)
Subject: Re: Wrist/Elbow/Knee Protectors
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 01:31:41 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

> Subject: Wrist/Elbow/Knee Protectors

For what it's worth, I wear full cage body armour with a full back. It's
called Stilmotor here, but I think it's Hallman in the US. I doubt they
still make it since it's 7 years old now. The reason I bought it was that
it had rock solid shoulder and chest/stomach protection and the best elbow
guards I've ever seen. They are hard, well ribbed plastic, hinged and 
extend most of the way around my arms. They have good wide straps and
won't budge when you fall on them....and they've lasted 7 years... 

On the subject of protection, my wife wears the same armour and she
took a big hit in the lower chest when she came down hard on the end of the
handle bars with a bit of speed. She was winded and pee'd red (surely the
sign of a good hard ride!) that afternoon. Our local doctor (sports
injury specialist) had a look at her and the body armour and insisted that
if she didn't have the armour to spread the impact, the bars would have
now doubt penetrated her lower chest and caused massive internal injuries.
Only problem with it is that it's so damned restrictive....but I'm not
complaining.

Knee protectors are full length shin/knee protectors. They look wierd
because they go all the way down to your ankle but they are great. I'm not
sure of the make but I think they're from M.S. Racing. They spread a hit
really well and won't move on you. I have seen knee protectors slip away
as you fall on them so make sure that whatever you buy fits you exactly
and is well secured.

Wrist protectors?  Hmmm...I'll have to get some now because sure as the
Kenedys are gun shy, I'll fall and hurt my wrist next ride...

I hate pain more than chewing tin foil.
George C.

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: wardman@gandalf.ca (Russel Wardman)
Subject: 93 models
Organization: Gandalf Data Ltd.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:31:41 GMT

Sept dirt bike has "93 bike expose", not a lot of details but
some photos with a couple of notes with each. Everyone seen it?

Heres my opinions/observations for what there worth. 
 
Grab handle built into number plates
    - only yamaha and KTM appear to have this, why can't the others
      figure out we don't like lifting our bikes by the fender/
      silencer?

Fuel cell with replaceable body panel around it
    - Suzuki has followed kawasakis lead (from 92) and incorporated
      this and IMHO did a better job since they leave the fuel cell
      plain black plastic
   
Perimeter Frame 
    - Only kawasaki offers this still
    - It may not make for a better bike but it sure makes it stand out

Upside down forks
    - Unfortunately, they all have it - Professional Xers may need this
      but I don't - Increased wear of wipers and seals due the extra 
      muck they have to deal with compounded with the susceptability
      to knicks when passing between narrow rocks or as a result of minor
      tip overs in the rocks (especially since some of them (kaw) don't
      wrap the protectors around at all) makes them a bad idea, IMHO

Cheers eh,
Russell
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**          613-723-6500           ** 84 Turbo 750 KAWASAKI (for sale) ** 
**                                 ** 90 KX 500 KAWASAKI               **
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From: mcclend@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Mike McClendon)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:47:43 GMT
Subject: Re: Project XR600
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt

	>ignition timing 2 deg and run a one grade colder plug. There's no
	
How?  Drill out and remount the pulse generator?  Do you think the PG could
be made to rotate, then lock in place at whatever timing position is best --
and would the performance gain justify the effort?

>	The cheapest mod is to remove the choke butterfly...It made a heap

I would think the next cheapest for big returns would be changing to the
high-compression piston, yes?
	
>	arc welder....) and a big vice, you can make it no sweat. If you
	
I don't know if I have a big vice, but my wife points out plenty of little
ones . . 

-- Mike

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: garyb@pdx015 (Gary Brown)
Subject: Re: Re: Sitting Down
Organization: Intel Corp., Hillsboro, Oregon
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:05:09 GMT


Let's stick to talking about dirtbikes in this news group!!

The "dirt" in dirtbikes has nothing to do with some of the filth (language and 
subjects) that's been offending me and my wife lately.  Let's not pollute 
rec.motorcycles.dirt to the point where it's as useless as rec.motorcycles has 
gotten.

No wonder why we have such a bad reputation in the world!  I'm embarassed to
even introduce people to rec.motorcycles* for fear that they'll think all
bikers are a bunch of perverts!  

This has been a GREAT, very useful newsgroup, let's keep it that way.

Thanks,
Gary Brown
From: JJS158@psuvm.psu.edu (JJ Serowik)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: '93 XR650L
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:13:09 GMT
Organization: Mythos/Xcalbrin Inc.
X-School: Penn State University


     Okay before you flame, this is the first time I have read rec.motorcycles.
dirt since May 'Cause I don't have an account, and I still don't.  This isn't m
ine.  I used to be RGH105@PSUVM.PSU.EDU but I'm not yet, but I will get one soo
n:)  Anyway, how bout the XR650L?  I sat on a new one and nearly blew a load al
l over it!!!!!  Talk about a most righteous Dual-Sport(It isn't really, it's a
DIRT BIKE:):):):):)  )  Yes I want one really bad.  This thing is incredible, r
ight up there.  It's like the CR500 of the Dual-sport class, Totally dominant.
Except for those Radiator shrouds even though there is no radiator(???)  What w
ere the Honda boys thinkin???  Anyway Dirt Bike took the shrouds off their bike
and went'a riding.  If they really love it I know damn well it's a GREAT bike.
Any of you rich boys got one??  I can't afford $4400 bucks 'cause I'm in colleg
e(Penn State #3 in football last year:) )  But if I could get it, I would buy o
ne right now 'cause I'm so hooked on it.  Well I gotta go, send info on it you
new owners and let me know if you love it as much as I do.
                                                           Rob

"The owner of this account didn't say it, I did."-disclaimer
"I said it, I meant it, and I'll damn well stand by it"-me
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: jjb@dtc.hp.com (Jim Brewer)
Subject: How do I teach the wife to descend?
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:29:14 GMT
Organization: HP Design Technology Center, Santa Clara, CA

 Last weekend I had the unpleasant experience of watching my wife pitch
her XR200 down a hill.  She was descending, got off the trail down a 
somewhat steeper part, decided it was too steep, and jumped off.  The good
news is she is sore but somewhat unhurt.  The bad news is the bike kept going
then did an end over end fork bending tumble.  

  After finding out she was ok and wishing I'd had a camera, we figured out
she just doesn't know what to do when the hill get's too steep.  She has
no problem going uphill, but loses a lot of confidence when descending.  
She's been riding for a couple years, but is pretty slow (hardly ever gets
out of 3rd).

  I told her that I thought a good idea when the hill gets too steep is to
lock the rear brake, turn it parallel to the hillside, and fall off the
uphill side of the bike.  True?  I also mentioned to keep her butt toward
the back of the seat.  Any other suggestions?

  Anyone got some '85 XR200 forks they'd like to sell?  :-)

  -Jim
From: checksix@flyboy.EBay.Sun.COM (Al Conte)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Fresh Meat !!!!!
Date: 26 Aug 1992 16:03:47 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: checksix@flyboy.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: flyboy.ebay.sun.com
Keywords: Baptised under Dirt


My nephew recently got his first dirtbike, "a Yamaha 250 I believe".
Anyway, he was doing real good on the mountain bike circuit up at Tahoe,
winning a bunch of races, and even getting a sponsor.
He decided that it was time to get a REAL bike, one that had a motor.
His first few rides up there got him a broken collar bone.
He's coming done here to Hollister to visit for the Labor day weekend,
and I am going to take him to the cycle park here to show him some humbleness.
Anybody interested in riding that weekend, let me know by email.
This is going to be fun !!!!!!


Al
From: kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Wrist/Elbow/Knee Protectors
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:41:52 GMT
Organization: Array Microsystems, Colorado Springs, CO. USA

mcclend@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Mike McClendon) writes:
: A friend had a low-speed, simple fall which broke his shoulder socket 
: (required surgery and months of recuperation), and gave me a safety bug.

Bummer, tell him all the netters said to get well soon.

: 
: So I went to the moto shops to check safety gear, and boy was I dissappointed.
: Nothing for wrists, the stuff for knees is either pathetically flimsy or
: an expensive orthopaedic contraption, and not much for elbows, either.
: 
[...]
: Anyone have any recommendations?  Other brands/models to look for like
: "Hammer" or "Dyno" ?  Can you use the wrist protectors with bikes?

The best (IMHO) elbow guards are not being made any more.  Thor (and Hallman) used 
to make some that were plastic and hinged in the elbow joint.  I've fallen
on mine many times and have so far escaped elbow injury.  One thing about 
them though, I fell at 58MPH during a race and cracked some ribs when I
fell on the arm guard.  I'm currently looking from some replacements but have
not found anything yet.  I saw some interesting plastic guards in the '92
Oneal catalog last night.  I might order some just to see if they are any 
good.  One note about the arm guards, in Colorado, buy the plastic as the
rocks will cut through the foam types.  I've talked to many folks from the 
RMEC that broke elbows while wearing these.

On the knee guards, the ones made by Malcolm Smith Racing can't be 
beat.  They offer protection from the top of the foot to above the knee with
a large cup for the knee to sit in.  On the downside, if you have large 
calves, your boots might not close properly.  I've had a pair of these for
two years and haven't gotten so much as a bruise.  I shattered a tree stump
once in a race that I was sure would cost me some blood and stitches.

I wear a lot of protective gear and test it often  :-) .  

: Thanks,
: 
: Mike


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From: jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney)
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 19:09:06 GMT
Subject: Re: Bomb Proofing XRs
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA