From: kickda@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Damien Kixk)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: group for judo?
Date: 14 Dec 1992 20:57:28 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
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In article <Bz6qts.AE7@pcuf.fi> 
jlahti@pcuf.fi (Jarmo Lahti) writes:
>I have been reading this group some half a year now, and I must
>say, that even if this is interesting, it is too much...
>Because I am interested of more judo related stuff, I would like
>to subscribe something like rec.martial-arts.judo, but at least
>here it seems not to be found that. Is there somewhere in the net?
>I have been started to think, that we judokas are not as active in
>net conversation as other martial artist. At least in this group
>judo related messages much more rare that karate related. I do not
>know how much there are judokas and karatekas amongst the readers
>of this group, but at least in Finland the number of judokas is NOT
>as little compared to the number of karatekas, as is the number
>of judo related msgs compared to karate related msgs here in this
>newsgroup.
>

       i would agree that it might be a good idea to make seperate
  groups for seperate styles/interests. 

In article <1992Dec14.081434.19231@netcom.com> 
dsmythe@netcom.com (Dave Smythe) responds with:
>Use a kill-file.  Kill everything, and only re-mark articles containing
>the word JUDO.
 [... little bitty snip ...]
>Shouldn't be.  The consensus around here seems to be that the cross-
>pollination that occurs (when the terminology is not too much of a
>barrier) from having different styles discussed in the same forum
>far outweighs the minimal effort required to ignore messages that you
>are not interested in.  If your newsreader doesn't do this for you,
>get a better one.  RN, TRN, NN, TIN, GNUS should all be able to handle it...
>

       i'm not quite sure what you mean when you say "the consensus 
  around here ..." but if you mean "the consensus amongst the readers
  of this newsgroup ..." then add one more to the list of those who
  don't quite agree with you.  using a kill-file to simulate the 
  creation of a new, more specific newsgroup is a bit silly, IMO.
  just to take up one issue: not every article that deals with judo
  or a topic specifically related to judo includes the word judo in
  the subject name -- requiring that rec.martial-arts users would do
  such a thing would only be useful if you were trying to use the kill-
  file to simulate the creation of a new, more specific, group.  
  imagine if all of the music groups, of which there seem to be many,
  were slapped into blah.music ...  unfortunate indeed would be the
  metal-head who wanted nothing to do with enya, marky-mark, mozart,
  louis armstrong, bob marley, whitney houston, operation ivy, they
  might be giants, polka, simon and garfunkel, apotheosis, nwa, etc.
  etc. etc.  sure, a "pure" musician -- one who was interested in every
  musical styling that is, was and ever will be -- would love to hear
  about anything s/he could get a hold of but not everyone is that 
  electic in taste.

       for those who are without bias in their marital-arts interests
  -- keep rec.martial-arts.  for those who have a more particular
  taste -- make rec.martial-arts.blah.blah.blah.  cross posting is
  easier and makes more sense than having to filter through the huge
  wave of information -- the daily flood of posts that come from all
  over -- and create a hierarchy of your own -- without aid.

       didn't want to stay passive on this one.  i'd thought about
  suggesting something like this myself but never bothered posting.
  when i saw someone else take the iniative i figured that i should
  at least voice support.  ... whatever

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