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From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: this may take a liitle more time
Date: 12 Oct 92 03:10:17 GMT
	<YeqASTm00Uh_E3PpQB@andrew.cmu.edu>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

For those of you who've just joined me- Welcome,


                          
                                                   I don't have the time
to go back to the beginning so I'll try to fill you in as I go along.


                                        .... that Nippon was in such a
state of obidence to America that "We Could say No!" But, I feel that it
was a combination of this and the overwelming opportunity to make money!
Nihon made a lots of money on the blood of North Ko-ryuans. When I first
realized this two years ago, I felt ashamed to look my Korean(even
though I knew they were from the South)in the eyes. Now, even as I
write, I feel that my conscience is clear
toward God and Man(on this point). Maybe, if I go into some of the background 
of the events that processed and lead up to the situation in which
Nihon(at this point I will refer to Nippon in Marco Polo's
Terminology).(I really think that it is approprate)finally conceeded to
acted in accordance with it's former foes.
{Damn I got nervous there for a second}. To do this I feel that I must examine
Ko-ryu background before its rupture. But, to do this I feel I must
break it down into parts. Because, I'm only human. I finish this Part
One to tommorow.
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Actually!
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:05:33 GMT
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.

In article <Mep50fG00WBNI1fYhN@andrew.cmu.edu>, 
ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano) writes:
=> Actually,
=> 
=> Since I've come to America I've learned some pretty deep concepts
=> of the America Culture. Mainly, The intense situation between color
=> within in the "Black" and "White" cultures of America. I, too, was
=> propogandaized by the "Positive" image of the "White" European and
=> American as well the "Negative" image of "People of Color" while I was
=> in Japan. To me, America is not what most Japanese as well as Asians in
=> general think. I, could now, expound on the many 
=> cruel ways American "Whites" treat other Americans as less. 

Sorry we are no longer your "heroes", Asano-San. But in fact we never
were heroes. Just people. The age of heroes has past, as even heroes
can no longer avoid the exposure of their humanity.

Most white americans (and especially males), and most Japanese (and
especially males) that haven't travelled from their homelands have
never had the enlightening experience of being the target of
discrimination. As such, most have little sensitivity to it.

I am sorry you had a bad experience here. Some people do... most
don't. But when you return home to beloved Nippon, please watch
closely. When you see an O-Ji-san refer to a gaijin as "ketou";
see people refused admission to you favorite watering-hole because
the are foreigners; see a Japanese woman scolded for being with
a foreigner; see empty seats on each side of a gaijin on a
crowded bus or train - well... whatever... - you have your big
chance.

Be a hero.

You can look at your experience here as negative, and cry about it.
But "actually" it may be a great thing for you. It's your choice.
Some of your would-be heroes have made their choice, and while
they may never reach hero stature, they are trying. Please do
likewise, and everyone will be better for it.

Have a safe trip home....

- Bill Lambert
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga)
Subject: Re: Actually!
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 02:36:34 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.234046.27453@Csli.Stanford.EDU> hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:
>I stand aghast.  And am totally at a loss what to say.
>
>All I can tell is that you've suffered from very bad experiences
>in the US, and I sincerely sympathize for that.
>And I, as a Japanese currently in the US, have been fortunate
>not to have encountered such situations.
>
>Cheers!

And I wasn't clear enough in my post above --
pray try not to over-generalize!!

-YH
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: ikeda@vxcrna.cern.ch (IKEDA,M./EP)
Subject: Re: Where are the Japanese
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 12:36:00 GMT

In article <5699@hoffman.cc.sophia.ac.jp>, t_yamasi@hoffman.cc.sophia.ac.jp (Yamashiki Tsuyoshi) writes...
>In article <Bw5uwK.Ftx@world.std.com> cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond) writes:
>>I just wish that he and Robertson-san would stop SHOUTING.
> 
>Me too....It's amazing how much portion of articles here are
>written by them (I'm not complaining, just amazed).
>But there always is a way to <deleted>

Decided to go lurking in scj again...  Who is this Asano?  Is
he really Japanese?

-- Makoto
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 13:08:46 MDT
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Well, its been educating.......
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
From: luke@newt.ee.byu.edu (David Luke)

In article <geqijjG00iV3Q1iO8Q@andrew.cmu.edu> Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Well, friends its been an educational experience with you all. When, I
>subscibed
>to this forum I had no intention to insult or offend anyone. I became insulted
>at some of the comments. And, generally, I acted in a  nice way compared
>to some of the horrible treatment that I received here. But, now its
>time for me to leave.

Is it just me, or does this seem to be kind of his life philosophy in a
nutshell?

Ja, Asano-san.  America ni iru kagiri, shiroi hito ya kuroi hito, iroiro
na iro no hito ga iru kara, ammari "insulted" sarenai you ni ganbatte
kudasai ne.
-- 
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|  David Luke                      "There's nothing worse than a brilliant     |
|  luke@wombat.ee.byu.edu           image of a fuzzy concept."                 |
|                                                               -- Ansel Adams |
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: kanekawa@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Nobuyasu Kanekawa)
Subject: More Understandable Titles Please(was THIS ONE PROVES IT! etc.)
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 04:15:44 GMT

Dear Rikiya Asano;

   I am interested in your recent articles.

   But, I have difficulty in imaginating the contents from titles you
gave your articles.  e.g. "OH! YEA I GOT THAT FROM", "THIS ONE PROVES
IT", etc.  I think most of readers determine to read or not to read
articles by their titles. I wonder your articles may miss some readers
bacause of hard-to-understand titles.

  If you make an effort a little harder in making more understandable
titles, we (incl. you, especially your articles :-)) will be more happy.

Best Regards,

Nobuyasu KANEKAWA

-- 
Nobuyasu KANEKAWA  (E-mail address in Japan : kanekawa@hrl.hitachi.co.jp)
Xref: sparky soc.culture.japan:8813 soc.culture.asian.american:9564
From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Jeff Magill
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:24:32 GMT
	<1992Oct12.231353.5549@tcsi.com>
Distribution: na
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Mr. Magill,

                  I 'am not a "japnese woman"!  Sorry, that your ex-
left you and I'm sorry that I remind you of that. Take it easy and calm
domn, dude.
From: wfrey@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Warren Frey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese Baseball Caps
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 19:15:10 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

ccavers@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Cam Cavers) writes:

- Is there anywhere I can get Japanese baseball team caps, preferably by mail
- order from somewhere in North America? (of course, a store in Canada would be
- preferable, but I doubt I would find one). I don't really care what team, but
- something with a very Japanese-looking logo would be best. Also, I would be
- willing to trade with someone in Japan or someone with a collection of
- baseball caps for any item of equal value that I can buy here in Edmonton.
- 
- 
- !   *  *  * *    *    ! Cam Cavers: ccavers@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca !SakeSake
- !   *   *      ****** ! **************************************** !SakeSake
- !  *     *      *   * ! Member of B.A.K.A.: Banzai Anime         !SakeSake
- ! *      *     *   *  !                     Klub of Alberta      !SakeSake!

I too would be interested in info on Japanese Baseball caps, or any 
Japanese cap that has a comparable "hipness factor" :) to the Malcom X 
caps seen everywhere; the X caps look great, but alas, they've become the 
property of young punks and skateboard pukes the world over. :( 

Hey, maybe a cap with a Yen symbol would hit the spot...:)

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii)
Subject: Re: HANSHIN TIGERS
Keywords: baseball
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 04:52:37 GMT

sf1x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Shinya Fujimoto) writes:
>So this year, despite of being surrounded by Kyojin-fans in this city of
>Pittsburgh, ...

Surrounded? You mean the Pirates fans? Well, perhaps they're alike in that
their teams both lost :-)

>This is the difference between Kyojin fans and Hanshin fans. 
>Kyojin-fans simply want their team to win, but Hanshin fans just want
>their team to be playing.....even if they're losing.

I think you'll be happy to hear that tonight's CBS Evening News had
a segment on Hanshin fans. Not the pennant winner Swallows or the
Tigers itself, but about the Hanshin fans. Not bad, making a network 
news in a foreign country.  You know, I think Dan Rather was impressed ;^).

>Shinya Fujimoto (Kansai-jin)

- Another Kansaijin -
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: How to prepare Thai curry
Date: 11 Oct 1992 19:12:13 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigbang.berkeley.edu

Thai Jasmine rice is the best rice for this, but if unavailable then use
Japanese rice.

Go to your local Asian grocery and find a can of Thai curry paste, the brand
with the Queen's face on the label--the can's small and flat.  They come
in red or green pastes.  The red is best for chicken, green for beef.

So here is how I prepared my chicken curry:

Put the curry paste and 8 oz of coconut milk (I used Chaokoh brand) in
pot and stir up.  Add two cups of water and bring to a boil.  Throw in 3 whole
chicken legs and simmer for an hour or so.  The add desired vegetables--
I used 2 onions, a bell pepper, and mushrooms.  Eggplant may be a good idea.
There will be a layer of chili oil floating on the broth, so for the 
delicate North American/Japanese pallate you may want to skim off this oil
with a spoon as it contains most of the hot flavor.  After vegetables are done,
taste-test broth and add salt as desired.  Sesame seeds can also enhance the
flavor.

I usually add 1/5 black wild rice to my rice, as that way the texture and flavor
of the rice is more varied and less bland.

Pretty simple stuff.
From: herb@sybase.com (Herb Lison)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Gifts when visiting Japan.
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:53:03 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

If you wish to bring something that is distinctively a U.S. product,
try to find maple sugar candy.  I found on many occasions that this
was a big hit.

Sports souvenirs such as baseball caps, pennant flags, etc. are also 
nice gifts, particular for children.  University or college paraphenalia
seem to go over well also, especially from the better known schools,
Berkeley, CalTech, Harvard.

If you want to move upscale a bit, jewelry crafted by Native Americans
is also very popular.  Anything with a bit of silver and turquoise
is much appreciated.

Herb Lison
From: keis@psy.uwa.oz.au (Keis Ohtsuka)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Scary in Japan - "slurps"
Date: 14 Oct 1992 10:16:00 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au

My apology for hasty editing that left a false impression that
Aki Yoshida advocates the fork-and-spoon rule for eating spaghetti.
Both of us appear to be "pastaphobia" more specifically "slurpy sound"
phobia in context of eating spaghetti in an Italian restaurant but
I fully acknowledge such a joyful sound is completely acceptable and
culturally correct in eating Ramen, Soba, or Udon, in Japan.

Regarding how Australians eat spaghetti, I can't answer myself
as I am not an Australian but will observe them and get back to
you. I know Australians use a fork and a knife in each hand at
table as Europeans do whereas Americans usually put down a sharp
object after cutting meal in bite size and hold only a fork in
one hand.  (It probably is a good idea for them since they can
be pretty aggressive at times. :^) 

Buon Appetito!
From: RNM192@paccvm.corp.mot.com (Irene Pan)
Subject: Re: Where are the Japanese?
Organization: Motorola
Date: 9 Oct 1992 07:58:44 HKT

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
From: zzhang@soliton.rutgers.edu (ZhiZhong Zhang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Where are the Japanese?
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:34:14 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Looking at the names of the posters in this group, I am suprised to see
very few of them are Japanese. Why is this? Where are the Japanese? How
can people talk about issues related to Japan with so few Japanese
involved. By the way, I am not a Japanese myself.

I wasn't a Japanese either, but I have been lived in Japan for 3.5 years.
Japanese is not good at expressing what they think to others, therefore
it is hard for them to response those mail.  Beside, I wondered how many
Japanese know about this communication line.
From: hank@westford.ccur.com (Hank Cohen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Old Sake...
Keywords: Sake
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:18:26 GMT
Organization: Concurrent Nippon Corp.  Tokyo , Japan

In article <Bw4ps3.CnE@world.std.com> psybeast@world.std.com (The UnKnown Beast) writes:
>I'm not sure if this is the right place, but...

Sure what could be more cultural that booze. :^)

>I recently got some old hand crafted decanters filled with sake & plum
>wine, and I was wondering how long can the two last before they go bad??

There's only one way to tell for sure, tast it.  But neither plum wine
or Sake is usually aged for as long as grape wine.  Plum wine is
likely to do better than sake though.  Sake is usually drunk in the
year of it's production.  Are you sure that what you have is plum
wine?  There's losts of Ume Shu which is really Shouchu flavored with
plums.  You take a bottle of good shouchu and pour it into a jar
filled with raw plums (really Ume not exactly the same as western plums)
In a couple weeks you have Ume Shu.  My mother in law makes a very
tasty batch once a year.  This stuff will probably keep forever since
it's not fermented.  Real plum wine is undistilled and could turn to
vinegar over time.  Sake must be drunk once the bottle is opened.  The
flavor will be noticably degraded after the bottle has been open for a
week.  You may do best to just throw away the contents and keep the
bottles.
-- 
Hank Cohen
Concurrent Nippon Corp.  	Shuwa yanagibashi Bldg. 5F
Yanagibashi 2-19-6 Taito-ku 	Tokyo 111, Japan
Denwa: 03-3864-5714 	Fax: 03-3864-0898
From: kono@csl.sony.co.jp (Shinji Kono)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Long Hair
Date: 12 Oct 92 01:29:42 GMT
Reply-To: kono@csl.sony.co.jp
Organization: Sony Computer Science Laboratory, Inc.

In article <2AD87162.15185@ics.uci.edu> , 
	jchilber@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jeffrey Allen Chilberto) writes 
>What reactions should
>I expect in both the social and business environments
>since I am Italian and have long hair?

No problem.  Today many Japanese male have long hair in working place.
But in general Japanese are sensitive to neatness. So be careful if you
need good first impression.

>I'm planning on moving to Japan and teaching
>english for a year and eventually move into the
>computer industry there.  

Things may not be so easy.... but I don't care...
---
Shinji Kono @           kono@csl.sony.co.jp
Sony Computer Science Laboratory, Inc,Japan
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Foreigner's bank accounts in Japan
Date: 15 Oct 92 07:31:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.1bj6ouINNb2f
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigbang.berkeley.edu

Hi!  I'm a college student thinking of working in Japan next year.  Are
foreigners allowed to start credit card accounts over there, and if so,
is VISA or Mastercard among them?  Also, will they be issued cash cards
so they can withdraw savings from cash machines?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: Peter.Weekes@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: JUNET (INTERNET) FIN NAGANO HELP!
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 10:20:33 GMT

Ko nichi wa 

I have a friend who lives in NAGANO-shi who wants to get an INTERNET address.

If anyone could help him by emailing me, or phoning him (0262) 63-3795
his name is Peter Nierenberg, I would be very grateful.

Are there any bbs systems in Nagano which have this INTERNET access for
example ?

Thanks, arigato gozaimasita

Peter Weekes



-- 
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Box 7163              Parasitologist                 | 
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From: tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: the Rikiya Asano rants
Date: 12 Oct 92 09:55:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct12.095523.25345
Organization: clearer than blir

In article <geqDGTu00Uh_03PzMb@andrew.cmu.edu> ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano) writes:
>Mr. Choi,
>
>               I like Koreans to much to argue with you. I remember what
>the Japanese Imperial System did to Korea. And, I'm not to happy about
>that. So, back OFF!

Implicit meaning: but I hate whites enough to make a fool of myself.

-- Tad Perry   Internet:    tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu
               CompuServe:  70402,3020
               NIFTY-Serve: GBG01266
From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: No, I'm not Half Japanese and Half Korean
Date: 12 Oct 92 06:03:44 GMT
	<1992Oct12.035016.3012@u.washington.edu>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Mr. Choi,

           You make me happy at the end of a long hard terrible day. At
least you think I'm Japanese. But, No I'm half Japanese  and Half Korea.
I am now ashamed to say Japanese but I'm still proud. But, I love Korea.
What you were reading if my opinions about situations surrounded the
Korean from a Japan point of view. this letter is an open letter that is
for all (but directed to peterp@yang.earlham.edu) I have many Korean
friends that told me many beautiful things about Korea. My best loved
role model is NAM JUNE PAIK. He is the reason the I have obtained B.F.A.
in Painting. So, it may seem that I lost but I'm not.  I hope to go to
Korea. Well I write you soon. One of my favorite ideas is to create a
work of art (site sculpture) for the DMZ in recognition for Nippons
involvement in ther Korean War. for Some odd reason your Massage has
disappaered
so I can't see What else You've written.  But from your first Post; well
lets forget about your first post. Do your best in school and work hard.
This program is really a trip. The guy got me really angry by
associating me with Imperial
Japanese.
From: blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: 50 YEARS AGO TODAY: October 11-14 - Guadalcanal
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:30:11 GMT
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.


> In article <MS-C.718923095.1103527590.mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM>,
> Mark Crispin <mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM> writes:
> > As anxious eyes in Washington and To^kyo^ watched, war power poured into
> > Guadalcanal...

In article <1992Oct13.145117.19630@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>,
tylee@austin.ibm.com (Ty Lee) writes:
> What does this news item have anything to do with the issues to be talked
> in this newsgroup? Does this author intend to cite his little history
> book on the net? This is not a place for teaching. Nip-phile is he indeed
> by examining the machine name "Ikkoku-Kan".
                                                
Mark Crispin and I rarely (if ever) agree on anything. However, many 
people do find his "50 Years Ago" series interesting and sometimes
informative. Mostly, he is objective in recounting those events.
History is a part of culture as much as culture is a part of history.
If you are not sure why such postings are in this newsgroup....

please stay tuned....

- Bill Lambert
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Re: Actually
Date: 14 Oct 1992 03:25:33 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu
Keywords: Racism vs. Economics

We cannot separate racism and poverty as if they were unrelated issues.  Fact
is, blacks have remained poor because they have never had an adequate financial
community.  As of today, banks are reluctant to make inncer-city loans,
invest in low-income housing, and blakcs do not have their own banks.  By
comparison, Asian immigrants have their own financial pools, and are often
helped out by companies from their home country, as market scouts for 
export items and what not.  Africa, as we all know, has an abundance of
natural resources, but world interest has only been in extracting gems, precious
metals, cocoa, and coffee beans produced by underpaid workers.  By racial
charity, we can start payingthose workers more, but then the Western world 
will have to deal with sky-high prices of coffee & chocolate among other things.So, as far as I'm concerned the economic predicament of African countries today
has much to do past prejudices and the current unwillingness to develop their
economies as if they were Asian ones.
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Network High
Date: 16 Oct 1992 19:40:49 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

Yes, please don't think same as what he is writing.  Instead, think like me.
Think the way those timid Japanese tourist groupies wander around the 
streets, uncommunicative, just out for shopping, wearing those visor hats so
their field of vision prevents them from having to see too much.

I have seen Japanese tourists for ten years, so I can predict their behavior
quite well. :)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: bbs.lar@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Larry Greenfield)
Subject: Re: Good Luck Letter
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 22:23:40 GMT

"Shiawase no tegami" you mean like "fortunate letter" or "lucky letter"? 
Hmm, interesting name for a chain-letter.
:::::Larry:::::

--
Larry Greenfield (bbs.lar@tsoft.sf-bay.org)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan