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From: stocker@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (William Stocker)
Subject: Re: Body Count
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 01:36:55 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.230113.20727@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rroberts@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ross Allan Roberts) writes:
>>>   I was watching eMpTyV last night (talk about boredom!) and I
>>>saw a video by a group called Body Count.  Believe it or not, this group
>>>is headed up by Ice-T and is actually metal not rap!
>>
>>Nope - it's not just that one tune... Body Count is an all-thrash band.
>>A pretty decent one, at that.
>
>Sort of... Body Count has done three songs, from what I can remember. This song
>that's out now, and one song on each of Ice-T's last 2 albums... 'The Girl 
>Tried To Kill Me' on _Freedom Of Speech... Just Watch What You Say_, and 
>something on _O.G. Original Gansta_ (I think the song was also called 'Body 
>Count'). The other two are rap over live music. All three are excellent... 
>morally offensive, but then again what isn't?

Sorry, but that's plain wrong.
Body's Count's self titled debut album came out a week or two ago.  It's
all thrash, no rap, and (IMHO) really good.  It's fast, and has songs
about the Devil, lighting your mother on fire and hacking her into
pieces, etc.

The song "Body Count" by the group does appear on both O.G. (rap)
and the new Body Count album, but "The girl tried to kill me"
is NOT a Body Count song (I believe), but it does have a good
guitar line in it.

--Will
From: ogorman@unix1.tcd.ie (Lucifuge)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: can anyone give me some opinions on these bands?
Keywords: opinion
Date: 16 Apr 92 09:35:00 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

In <1992Apr16.063413.5152@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man ) writes:

What a subject line!!! hahahahahaha!!!!! Can anyone give me some
opinions? In this group??? What a question....:) :) 

>   The bands I wanna know about are :
>    
>    Celtic Frost...

The only one I really know...one of the best metal outfits once upon a
time...sadly they haven't ages well...get 'Into the Pandemonium' and 'To
Mega Therion'..their last album 'Vanity/Nemesis' wasn't too bad but
avoid 'Cold Lake' like the plague...Celtic Frost is basically really
heavy music with wierd touches (female opera singers). It's cool.

>  Also if you can recommend any other bands along the lines of the Slayer,
>  Megadeth style or the Sepultura style, please do so....

Thrash/Death? Ummmmm....Try Sabbat or Skyclad....good stuff. Don't get
'Mourning has Broken' though.

Ollie
From: IO11372@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Darrel Speed)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.music newsgroups
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:38:00 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

I must say I agree with Maple.  But will it work?   Who can tell?
     So, who is going to get it done??

                                         8 - Ball
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: jamesb@nevada.edu (James Bender)
Subject: Re: At War with Nimpfer (all read this)
Summary: Flame-mania I results!
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:00:50 GMT


	Well, it's all over and the action was intense. But in the end,Sauron,
and his minions from hell,  defeated Peace, the world biggest hipocrite. The
action was close, but in the end the satanist edged out the altar-boy. Peace
has assumed the identity of Anarchy, and swears to be back for a rematch in
the fall, till then he's going to get some sun(don't fry your brain you jerk!)
So in the fall we have Flame-mania II to look forward to. Until then.....


CAN WE PLEASE GET BACK ON THE TOPIC OF METAL??????????

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From: wcsvic@alfred.carleton.ca (Victor Kamutzki)
Subject: Re: Anybody listen to HELMET?
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:19:47 GMT

swann@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen Swann) writes:

>turner5427@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

>>Does anyone listen to HELMET?
>>
>>If so, what does it sound like?

>Heavy, but really tightly controlled.  It's almost more hard rock than metal.
>The only comparison that I can think of offhand is that it's like old
>Black Sabbath, sped up, and more rigidly damped (no ringing).

How about early Killing Joke on steroids?  :-)

Victor
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From: cma@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (christine.m.dakes)
Subject: Re: Shotgunn Wedding
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:15:27 GMT

In article <PA_SJS.92Apr15140007@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu>, pa_sjs@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu (Steve J. Singer) writes:
> Hey, do any of you guys who are in college in Florida here of the band
> Shottgunn Wedding?  They are all gratuates of Florida and are playing all
> the clubs in Fort Lauderdale and Miami.  I lived down there all my life 
> until I went to college in Boston.  Before I left, this band was getting
> extremeley popular.  Please respond...
> Steve

Shotgun Wedding plays around here (Allentown, PA) very often, must
be down in FL for spring break gigs.  I thought they were from around
here (Allentown-Phila area) since they play here so often, I have
not personally seen them, but heard they are great, my fav radio station
(WZZO 95.1) advertises them all the time, I think they said they have a album
out now.  

     Christine
From: slambert@willamette.edu (Sean Lambert)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: At War with Nimpfer (all read this)
Date: 8 Apr 92 04:10:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: willamet.1992Apr8.041024.19124
Organization: Willamette University, Salem, OR



	Some fuck head writes:


Suaron,
    I accept the terms of your challenge.  Everyone can now start voting
    for the one they want to stay.  But remember this, do you want to
    continue seeing 300 posts a month by Suaron, condemning posers and
    every
    other subject that has been dragged out on this bboard?   Or...do
    you
    want to see about one post a week from a highly intelligent, witty,
    God
    fearing Christian?  The choice is yours, people...the future is in
    your
    hands.  I have faith in all of you. 
								 Peace



$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

My vote is for Suaron (I hope that I spelt it right, I am trusting that
a *good* christian would not lie)...leave this fucking board you wanna
be brown noser to God fuck head...


sean...................................slambert@willamette.edu
Organization: HAM - Hackers Against MUDs
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Date: Monday, 6 Apr 1992 15:36:50 EDT
From: Chad Lucas <CWL103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Ozzy's No More Tears Question.......

Does anyone know what S.I.N. and A.V.H stand for on Ozzy's No More Tears Album.
..                               Thanx
                                      Chad.
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From: vcf1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Victoria C Fike)
Subject: Re: At War with Nimpfer (all read this)
Summary: oh, what a wit.
Reply-To: vcf1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Victoria C Fike)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:50:32 GMT

In article <YdsFg6K00WBK8_y_0V@andrew.cmu.edu> jn2i+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Adam Nimpfer) writes:
>>No, thank you very much, I'd much rather read Suaron's posts.  At least he
>>has an IQ above that of minerally deficient dirt...
>> 
>>Tori
>
>Dearest Victoria,
>    Were you referring to me or yourself?
>                                           Peace

Oh.  I am writhing in agony here.  That was *such* a burn.  We're all 
incredibly impressed with your ability to come up with a flame heard in first 
grade classrooms across the country.

Note, fellow .net folks, that Captain Clueless here did not respond to my 
post which refuted his parochial (pardon the pun) view of metal.  Indeed, he
has not responded to *any* of the posts which have logically and rationally
contradicted his silly statements.  Instead, he chooses to propagate a flame
war.  Well, not exactly a war--he seems to be singularly unarmed for such a
conflict; perhaps he considers this a form of martyrdom.

Be that as it may, I tire of this fool.  We have attempted to respond to him
with reason, but to no avail.  Looks like it's open season on closed-minded,
moronic bible-thumpers...

Tori

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From: swann@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen Swann)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Flamers
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:31:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UB

In article <9APR199215474814@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> concerned reader writes:
>Hey man, why don't some of you spare us the extra bullshit and talk metal
>I think alot of people are sick of reading your little flame wars and
>religious dogma. You really sound like a bunch of geeks. Talk metal or 
>don't post at all.

Doctor, heal thyself.

-- 
Steve Swann                 |    Speak to me in many voices; make
swann@acsu.buffalo.edu      |      them all sound like one...  -BOC
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: ehanson@batman.acslab.umbc.edu (Mr. Erik Hanson; ARTS-SCI (UGRAD))
Subject: Re: "Bohemian Rhapsody"
Keywords: TEETH!
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore County, Mathematics Department
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 03:09:58 GMT


I saw an interview with the late Teeth (I can't remember his real name,
but on this interview he was joking about going on tour with Elton John -
it would be the Teeth and Hats tour (it wasn't very funny when he said
it, either)). He said that the song was originally pretty short, but the
band got carried away in the studio and kept adding all that opera-type
singing. He seemed to take the song pretty lightly.


Seeya!
Erk

______________________________________________________________________________
Erik Hanson   University o' Maryland Baltimore County   ehanson@umbc3.umbc.edu
From: fscll@acad3.alaska.edu (Chris Lott)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Slash is not a racist!!! (Get SUARON off this board)
Date: 12 Apr 92 04:50:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: acad3.1992Apr11.195028.1
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks

In article <92101.213753RSK113@psuvm.psu.edu>, RSK113@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> 
> In article <1992Apr10.145111.21140@acsu.buffalo.edu>,
> v085pcqr@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (WAYNE CAMPBELL) says:
>>
>>In article <92100.173201TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu>, TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu writes...
>>alt.r-n-r.metal subscribers:  do not fear suaron or maple!!! continue to
>>post about bands you want to post about, beit GNR, Def Leppard, or anything
>>that you yourself consider metal.  the only way suaron will be happy is if
>>they rename the group: alt.r-n-r.suaron, but then, who would post on it??
> 
>   When are the losers like this guy going to realize that just because someone
> considers Guns and Posers metal, it doesn't mean that it is  metal! There are
> a lot of bands that I like and listen to and that I may consider "heavy" but
> I am not going to post about them here because they are not metal! For example:
> The Beatles, Rush, Yes, Van Halen(old),etc...But even though I like these
> groups, they do not belong here because they are not metal. Some examples of

More blather about metal and cheese deleted...

Why do people with this argument always return to bad similes to try to defend
their case? Purposely trying to confuse the issues by talking about the
beatles and Rush aren't going to make a damn bit of difference about Def Lep
or GnR. What you consider might be harder, but doesn't mean that you are the
baseline for what makes metal and what doesn't. 

We all have our ideas of what makes metal and what doesn't and many of us will
disagree, even if some have vastly larger listening experience than others. It
still doesn't make them right.

Until the day that there is an established guideline for exactly what groups
are metal and what aren't I, and everyone else, can post about any fucking
band WE feel belongs here. If you don't like it, skip it?

If there is finally a moderated board formed (God I hope not) then I will be
more than happy to go with those ESTABLISHED guidelines. But you, and any
other wanna-be judge just don't meet that description.
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From: dxk21@po.cwru.edu (Dave)
Subject: Re: Kings X.
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 20:29:47 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.114015.54459@cc.usu.edu> sl7w3@cc.usu.edu writes:




>     Has anyone heard anything about a Kings X tour???...


   So far I think the only thing announced is that they will be headlining.
I wonder how big of venues they will play..............


maybe a small theater tour?
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Friday, 10 Apr 1992 15:57:34 EDT
From: <TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: ?Date for new Iron Maiden?

In article <1992Apr10.142749.2910@vax.muskingum.edu>,
sh_strawn@vax.muskingum.edu says:
>
>WHEN IS IRON MAIDEN'S NEW ONE COMING OUT?
>
>AND DOES ANYBODY KNOW THE TITLE OF MEGADETH'S NEW ONE?  THEY ALWAYS USE SOME
>DORKY PUN OR WORDPLAY TO TITLE SOME OF THE CLASSIEST METAL IN THE BUSINESS.
>MY
>GUESS IS:  BURGER, FRIES, AND THREE REGULAR NUKES... TO GO
>
>-SHANE-
>

Calm down its not like we can't here you or anything!  Iron Maiden
are due out on May 12th.  Megadeth have not offically named their
new album yet.  Rumour has it that its supposed to be called
Countdown to Extinction.  This is scheduled to be released June 1st
in case you're wondering that too.  Besides wasn't this posted
like 3 days ago?

--slide with me to your netherworld, emotion exquisite in sweet demise
President Suaron
From: mat berry
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: GnR racist... NOT!!!
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:32:56 GMT
Organization: wollongong uni


- I am asking this as an honest question; I admittedly have actively
- listened to almost none of their music, but I do recall some song with
- words like "you're a fucking faggot... you're a fucking queen..."  What
- the hell was that about? And from what lyrics I have read I have seen a
- lot of songs treating women as inferior, and this is a problem common to
>> much contemporary music.  (A la "Girl Don't Go Away Mad"... "Cherry
>> Pie"... etc.) Once again, I fully admit my ignorance.
																													^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^!
>the truth, i'd bet that every time these arguments come up, axl would
>sit back and laugh. do you know why? in the same vein that sex sells,
>controversy sells. if people talk about it more and more, it has a
>tendency to sell more records, and in the end, that's exactly what
>g'n'r and every other band out there is trying to do.  the bottom >line is
that they write to sell records.
------------------------====<<<<<>>>>>>>=====-------------------------

	Look bud, if you can't be bothered enough to listen to ALL their music, then
don't make ANY opinions at ALL. You guys are just picking one slightly
questionable lyric in an other wise good song.  All you guys over there in
'gods land' America (Ha Ha,what a joke), are you not allowing some one to not
express themselves, one minuit you're crapping on how your not allowed to
express yourselves then when someone does you go off your nut. Come back down
from your utopia boys and girls, come back to a land where people DO think and
people DO have opinions and people DO express themselves either by word or
song. 
	And as for that other guy who recons that they all do it JUST to make a
contraversy so they can sell records, get you head out of ya ass, perhaps they
belive what they say, is that a crime? Or haven't you told anyone to GET
****ED, or haven't you looked at a 'chicky babe' before, open your eyes son,
most of them look pretty damn HOT, harmless oggling never did me any harm, nor
the girls I was checking out. Don't call me sexist, cause we all do it, or
don't ya got any balls?
																																													A relived Mat. Berry. 
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From: pm3u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Patrick B Mcclory)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Preacher vs. Suaron
Date: 11 Apr 92 06:23:03 GMT
Organization: Freshman, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

ok people, I would like to say a couple of things.  First of all,
congratulations to all of you who didn't fall, believing the 'peace'
master.
And all those people who did, you should get out more.  What really
cracks me up is all these people who say they are so smart, graduating
with a 4.0 and all that, but they still fall for this catholic guy.  It
was obviously a joke.  Intelligence is one thing, but common sense is
another.  And all you people who fell for it have none of the latter. 
Sorry to dissappoint you.  You maybe rich someday, but some uneducated
person is going to steal it right out from under your nose.  Also, I
would like to congratulate the most of you for not posting so much about
'posers', 'poseurs', it shows maturity.  
Did anyone see the Skid Row/Pantera show? 
How was it?
I am extremely broke, so I can't go to very many concerts, and I was
wandering if this show is worth it.

Please pardon all the spelling mistakes, it's late.


  
da Weasel was here 
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From: goathunter@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: OriginalKissBack2gether?
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:21:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: wkuvx1.1992Apr9.172159.1290
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1992Apr09.193022.24228@bmerh2.bnr.ca>, acoles@bwdls59.bnr.ca (Andrew Coles) writes:
> |> Eric Carr, rest in peace
> |> 
> 
> I hear something happened to Eric, what, I don't know.  Can someone fill me
> in?

He was diagnosed with lung cancer in April 1991, underwent
(successful) chemotherapy, then suffered a cerebral hemmorhage in
September, slipped into a coma, and died November 24, 1991.  His death
was completely overshadowed by Freddie Mercury's death on the same
day.

Hunter
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From: JDO103@psuvm.psu.edu (Dave)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Iron Maiden Ten Years CD's
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:48:07 GMT
Organization: What?  Here?
X-Subliminal-Message: You want to send me lots of cash (unmarked 20's)...
X-ObObnoxious-Message: Just look at your damn self!
X-Notquiteassubliminal-Message: SEND ME MONEY, DAMBIT!  :)

Recently, I found some CD's from the Ten Years Collection.  Unfortunately,
I can't afford them all right now.  I was wondering what people thought the
best ones to get right away would be.  I can only afford 2 at the moment, since
I don't have much left after rent/food/gas/beer/etc.

-Dave
From: wp11+@andrew.cmu.edu (W Darren Prouty)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Manitoba's Kingdom
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:08:03 GMT
Organization: Freshman, Architecture, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>	Does anyone know if Manitoba's Kingdom is any good? I used to love
>Manowar and heard the old members are in this band.


It's manitoba's Wild Kingdom, and they're excellent.
From: sl7w3@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Kings X.
Date: 14 Apr 92 11:40:15 MDT
Organization: Utah State University




     Has anyone heard anything about a Kings X tour???...


'Too late to annul, so I plan her demise
 Creative Divorce - asphyxiate the bride'     Mike Fonnesbeck.
From: swann@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen Swann)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.music newsgroups
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:38:13 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Apr16.124624.11602@seas.gwu.edu> maple@seas.gwu.edu (Maple Moriji) writes:
>: what about alt.music.metal.progressive - to include bands like Fates Warnin
>: Queensryche, to name a few...they're at least as popular as metallica.
>
>Let's not get too excited about the restructuring of newsgroups.  There
>hasn't been too much "progressive" metal bashing on the newgroups, so
>I do not think that would be necessary.

I don't think so, either.  I don't actually object to the creation of
such a newsgroup, but I don't think there's a lot of demand for it.  Most
progressive metal bands will fit into the rock.hard newsgroup, and
won't have to deal with getting bashed there.

-- 
Steve Swann                 |    Speak to me in many voices; make
swann@acsu.buffalo.edu      |      them all sound like one...  -BOC
From: ogorman@unix1.tcd.ie (Lucifuge)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: DANZIG STRIKES BACK! (was re: POSER OF THE MONTH)
Date: 9 Apr 92 09:26:18 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

Hello people,

If this person was genuinely interested in discussion he would phrase
his questions in a less offensive manner. Conclusion: he is playing for
flames. Ignore him and he'll go away and sort his insecurity out
somewhere else. 

ollie...
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