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From: kuchar@buast7.bu.edu (Tom Kuchar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: SEASON SEVEN CONFIRMED
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:08:06 GMT
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <1993Jan26.172226.8776@samba.oit.unc.edu> Roger.Breece@launchpad.unc.edu (Roger Breece) writes:
>
>After seven seasons on the little tube would not most
>agree that the writers have explored everything that
>can be explored within the constraints of TV before
>quality suffers badly? Just MHO.

I would say 5 seasons, some would be less generous.  Anyway I would
like to see `Broken Mirror' as the first TNG feature film.  The
producers say that they can't do that one on TV.


-- 
Tom Kuchar			  
kuchar@buast7.bu.edu		  -or-                      kuchar@plh.af.mil
Department of Astronomy                              Phillips Laboratory/GPOB
Boston Univerity		                                  Hanscom AFB
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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: TNG Companion
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 07:58:56 GMT

In article <4812@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>In article <mcook.727407595@fendahl.dev.cdx.mot.com> mcook@fendahl.dev.cdx.mot.com (Michael Cook) writes:
><brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
><
><>In article <9301141436.AA17400@enet-gw.pa.dec.com> d_ellis@ricks.enet.dec.com (David Ellis  14-Jan-1993 0937) writes:
><><annie@whoville.manassas.ibm.com (Brenda Molina) asks:
><><
><><> What is this TNG Companion?
><...
><
><>Like Tim and I, Nemecek started out doing fan produced guides.  But, unlike
><>Tim and I, he got the book deal :-) :-(
><
><Perhaps because Nemecek knows when to say "Tim and I" and when to say "Tim and
><me"?  :-)
>
>You must be a Quayle lover, since the correct term is indeed "Tim and I"  Me
>is not supposed to be used in that context.

Vidiot is correct. To test the phrase (or any like it) remove the other person
so it's only about yourself. Instead of "like Tim and I," it becomes
"Like I" which is obviously incorrect. In this case "Tim and me" is correct
("Like me...")


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From: L697187@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: 65 Kira Fan List.
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 11:10:01 PST

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------

Since there are people out there who feel so strongly about
not wanting the list in r.a.s.c, then I will refrain from posting
it.

One thing I would like to add is that I do not agree with the fact
that this thread is "inane". I do not recall seeing any other
thread which has generated as much response -- both postitive and
otherwise.

So far the list has grown to 97 names, all of them had positive
comments about Nana Visitor's acting on DS9 and her God given good
looks. I apologize to those who are not comfortable with this kind
of discussion on a public access network.

And to the person who planned to start reading rec.arts.books instead
of r.a.s.c -- we'll miss you. :)


--
Ellison Chan, Comp. Sys. Analyst
HNSX Supercomputers Inc., NEC Corp.
E-mail: ellison@SX.Mont.NEC.COM
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Ah, go ahead and post it.  So people get mad so what.  As the disclaimer
says on my news reader:  IF YOU FIND ANY SUBJECT MATTER UNAGREEABLE OR
OFFENSIVE PLEASE REFRAIN FROM READING THAT MATERIAL IN THE FUTURE.
The "we don't want to talk about women" whiners can just refrain from
reading those articles.

Scott (flame away--I don't care...) VanArtsdalen
From: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: WORST EPISODE
Date: 21 Jan 93 05:12:31 GMT
Reply-To: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Organization: University of Arizona

In article <12540.406.uupcb@the-matrix.com>, scott.hollifield@the-matrix (Scott Hollifield) writes:
>10. "Half A Life"
>
[discussion deleted]

I wouldn't put this in my worst 10, but I have little reason to argue
with anyone who would...

The one thing I wanted to mention (that you skipped over) is the way
they explode a star, and then react with an "oh, well, back to the
drawing board" attitude.

Maybe I'm wrong, but shouldn't causing a nova cause more... I don't
know... Remorse?  Anguish?  A sense of something great and irreplacable
having been lost?  Perhaps not on the same level as the extinction of
a species, but on the other hand, they've just destroyed something that
otherwise might easily have outlasted the Federation...

I think it's a general indication of the sloppy writing that went into
this episode that the writer(s) used this as nothing more than a secondary
event useful only to drive the primary plot along.

-- 
You unlock this door with the key of imagination.  Beyond it is another
dimension: a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind.
You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas.
You've just crossed over into... the Twilight Zone.
From: v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: TNG's FUNNIEST MOMENTS
Date: 23 Jan 93 01:02:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1993Jan22.223907.23264@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com>, jackson@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com (Jeff Jackson) writes...
>  In the spirit of the "Best Episode / Worst Episode" series currently
>  running, here are my candidates for the funniest scenes in TNG episodes
>  (awarded Olympic-style).

Personally, I think the scene in "The Child" where Loll walks up to Riker, 
and kisses him, while Data walks in, and asking Riker what his intentions
were to his child.

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"If you love your fun, die for it!" - The Power of Lard - Lard
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From: tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine)
Subject: DSN: Dr. Bashir a stud
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:32:43 GMT

I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

I think this lad's a sweetie.

Well Ladies (and gents if that's your turn of mind), what 
do we have to say on this topic?


LJC, who is getting notorious for this sort of thread


-- 
Lady Johanna Constantine* Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will
tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu   * endure when mere facts are dust, and ashes, and
Disclaimer - huh?       * forgot.      -Dream of the Endless (and Neil G.)
LJC of the Net.Trenchcoat.brigade (Hi Elmo ;)
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From: bturner@cv.hp.com (Bill Turner)
Subject: Re: Space Bars-A Comparison
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.9 PL6]
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:55:06 GMT

Jim McCauley (jem@cup.hp.com) wrote:
> Space bars have a long tradition in science fiction stories --
> Callahan's Crosstime Saloon is a favorite of mine.

Well, technically Callahan's isn't really a space bar....

[I still like a story in an early issue of Isaac Asimov's SF Magazine (I
think John Ford did it, but I can't really remember) where they had an
ungodly nesting of quotes on spaceport bar story opennings.

If this is going to go from Trek to generic spaceport bars, I think I'll
put in a vote for Draco Tavern]

--Bill Turner (bturner@cv.hp.com)
HP User Interface Technology Division, Corvallis
From: Roger.Breece@launchpad.unc.edu (Roger Breece)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: SEASON SEVEN CONFIRMED AND MORE...
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:14:31 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service


This is my first post on the net so I hope it's readable.
The January 21, 1993 edition of USA TODAY in the Life and
Leisure section, said in the subsection of Inside TV by
Peter Johnson:"With the launch of Star Trek:Deep Space
Nine, the future of Star Trek:The Next Generation,
syndication's No.2 show, has been in doubt. Fans wonder
how much longer it'll run. ANSWER: ONE MORE SEASON. 
'This season is it's sixth season, and right now we are
not planning to continue The Next Generation beyond the
seventh year,' Paramount Television Group Chairman Kerry
McCluggage told Broadcasting. He says Capt. Picard and 
gang would 'move to the bigger screen' in a series of
films." End of article.

It would appear that leaves room for perhaps one more
feature film with the original cast before transition-
ing TNG cast to a long overdue big screen feature.
After seven seasons on the little tube would not most
agree that Berman & Co. and the writers have explored
everything that can be explored within the constraints
of TV before  quality suffers badly? Just MHO.
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From: qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord")
Subject: Re: TNG/DS9: We need the Kira list! also- a new thread
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 23:19:27 GMT


	I like Kira better.  I think Ro transfers too much of
her own angst into personal nastiness, whereas I think Kira is
only a bitch when the situation calls for it.
						-Quinn
From: william.johnson@um.cc.umich.edu (William Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: New Group
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Date: 24 Jan 1993 14:53:12 GMT
Organization: The University of Michigan
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: lip.engin.umich.edu

Maybe Mr. McCord is correct, maybe there needs to be a new group.  Alt.Sex
StarTrek.  It seems that some people have no outside stimuli, and need
a new newsgroup to get off on.
From: parrish@acavax.lynchburg.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Who dat?
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:35:41 GMT
Organization: Lynchburg College

Does anyone know the name of the actor who portrayed the disguised Ibudan?
He looked strangely familiar.




"Ambush poopie (trots)=never occurs at home, usually at parties or golf course;
                       result of trying to fart-just a little, but end up with
                       trouser chili and you have to walk bow-legged for the
                       rest of the day."-Frogman

For the complete poopie list email Frogman at:
                                Parrish@acavax.lynchburg.edu!
From: YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DS9: Something Weird Happened in Promo
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:10:34 GMT
Organization: Yale University

In article <1993Jan26.032530.26841@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams) writes:
 
>
>In article <1993Jan25.225011.26180@Virginia.EDU> qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord") writes:
>>
>>	I was just watching the promo for "Ship in a Bottle" (I
>>know that's not DS9, but I can't change the title.)  Anyway,
>>the only sound was dialogue and sound effects!  There was no
>>music, and no narrator to tell us what was going on!  Has this
>>happened to anyone else?
>>
   Let me get this straight.  You think this is a BAD thing?  :)
 
   Junsok Yang
>
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Subject: Re: WHY DO TREKKIES FIND KIRA ATTRACTIVE
From: hooverb@cs.wvu.wvnet.edu (Bruce Hoover,Armstrong)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 03:05:57 GMT
Organization: Concurrent Engineering Research Center
Originator: hooverb@a.cs.wvu.wvnet.edu

From article <matt.727740617@unidata.ucar.edu>, by matt@unidata.ucar.edu (Matt Hicks):
> 
> Tasha Yar?!!! (Picture a look of extreme disbelief.) Denise Crosby
> looks like a really tall twelve-year-old boy. The woman has no figure,
> none, zip.

You must not have seen her in playboy.
I'm not a huge Tasha Yar fan, but I don't see how you can say she had no
figure.

I don't think there has been a woman on TNG who had "no figure"
(probably has something to do with that 15-30 yr.old male demographic )

Bruce Hoover
From: srivastk@egr.msu.edu (Aseem Ku Srivastava)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DSN's comet: goofy or what?
Date: 22 Jan 93 02:46:35 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University, College of Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: eecae.ee.msu.edu

In article <1993Jan19.152029.1587@galaxy.gov.bc.ca> bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca writes:
>What's with that dang comet in the opening credits?
>No one seems to have commented on it, but I think it looks kind of dorky...
>-- 
>Bruce Clarke       B.C. Environment
>                   e-mail: bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca


Personally, I quite like the comet..... (IMHO, of course)

-Aseem
From: morgans@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: DSN:PP - Shabang's late rating
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:09:05 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Since my VCR is not directly hooked up to my Shabang-o-meter (danger high 
voltage), I was not able to watch the last DS9 episode (Past Pronoun?  Past 
Participle? Whatever) until some kind soul gave me a copy of the tape.
Even then the first part was lopped off - the bit before the opening 
credits.  

In spite of all that on with the rating...... Let's give Odo's Past a 6.  
This was the weakest show yet, and the result did not surprise me.  But 
still, it wasn't a Spock's Brain or a Troi episode.

Next week:  Babel, Babel, Babel, will you people shutup already!

Siobahn  (Shabang) Morgan
morgans@iscsvax.uni.edu

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From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DS9: "Babel" - Comments **SPOILERS**
Date: 27 Jan 1993 09:06:11 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity von Uniland, College Park
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spoilers


   This has nothing to do with the review titled above, but it is
a comment on this episode.

   One part that I liked about this episode was that, for once,
people close to destruction were panicking.   In TNG, the ship
could be close to blowing up, and everyone is quite calm.  Sure,
that may be part of the training, but it's hard to feel nervous 
when no one else on the crew does either.   With Quark yelling
out the time left, and Odo slumping after managing to jettison the
ship, it felt as if they were really in danger.   Admittedly, this
"we have two seconds left" is way overplayed in TNG and perhaps in
DS9.   Hopefully, the station won't always be in the danger of
blowing up.

    The solution, in my opinion, was a little rushed, and it would
have been nice for him to slave a few hours (or give that appearance).

    Also, it did seem a little unrealistic that Odo, who had no experiece
with gambling, was suddenly able to handle ops.   I suppose that can
also be explained away as part of his training.   I thought it was amusing
the part about beaming Odo and Quark trying to calm him down and virtually
repeating the phrase "I've seen it done hundreds of times", in the same
way he had mentioned Odo seeing gambling done a hundred times.   The
give and take of this pair seems to work pretty well.

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu
From: x91anderso33@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: "Man ofthe People" was great!
Date: 22 Jan 93 10:20:28 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

I've been reading all the replies to my "WORST EPISODE" question, and I gotta
say that I can't believe you people who bashed "Man of the People." 

I loved the episode, as it was the best Troi-based episode of TNG that has been
on yet. The story may not have been first rate, but we finally got to see Troi
turn into a REAL bitch (nice after 5 years of uppity niceness!).

Of course, I also like the dress thatshe wore into Ten-Forward thatshowed off
her ample cleavage (I know, I'm a sexist pig!)!!

 -Karl Anderson, WMU










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prepared us for all possible defenses. Your resistance is hopeless...Number
One!" - Locutus of Borg
From: d_ellis@ricks.enet.dec.com (David Ellis  28-Jan-1993 0921)
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Subject: Re: music terms in ds9?
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:22:51 GMT
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SCJ101@psuvm.psu.edu (Stephen C. Junker) writes:

>        Call me a music geek, but I have noticed a trend of the DS9 writers
> using terms from music in the first few episodes... such as:
> --> In the most recent episode "Babel" there was a reference to a planet named
>     "Legato 5" - Legato means to play smoothly.

I don't think this is a musical reference.  The person in charge of the 
special effects teams for DS9 is named Rob Legato.  The technical crew 
_loves_ to sneak their names into the episodes, usually in the Okudagrams
but sometimes more overtly.

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From: jpw@cbis.ece.drexel.edu (Joseph Wetstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DS9: "Babel" - Comments **SPOILERS**
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:27:41 GMT
Organization: Drexel University, College of Engineering, Philadelphia, PA


>
>>Also, someone was complaining that no one died in this
>>episode.  Well, maybe.  But in one scene we say some
>>orderlies wheeling a body out on a gurney...is this guy dead
>>or what?  Also, the panicky ship captain says that he *and*
>>his crew are leaving, yet we only see Odo drag the captain
>>off the ship.  I guess the rest of the crew got vaporized?
>
>When he was panicking just before attempting to take off he told Sisko
>that the rest of his crew had taken ill and were in the infirmary.
>Sorry.  No body count yet. ;)

Maybe 'norm' (grog? :) bought it. We didnt see him at the bar...


(please no flames. dont give my mailman a hernia)
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From: bturner@cv.hp.com (Bill Turner)
Subject: Re: TNG's FUNNIEST MOMENTS
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.9 PL6]
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:05:43 GMT

Sorry about the double post -- my newsreader had problems with
posting....

--Bill Turner (bturner@cv.hp.com)
HP User Interface Technology Division, Corvallis
From: 00jlrushton@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: PLEASE NO MORE SPACE RANGER POSTS!
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:48:41 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

No more posts about space rangers on this board!
write them to
rec.arts.stupid.sf.shows

please no more space rangers posts!

signed,
stimpi the Space Cat!
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From: ratner@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Dave "Van Damme" Ratner)
Subject: Ship in a Bottle (SPOILERS)
Summary: I Liked It!
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:37:51 GMT

Spoilers for "Ship in a Bottle" follow:

Wow.  I really enjoyed it.  Only real problem --- I figured it out
too soon.  From the title I guessed what was going on, but unlike other
episodes, even after I knew what was happening I still enjoyed it.

They did a little of the Data vs. Moriarity in the episode (i.e. Data 
was the one who figured out they were really INSIDE the holodeck), but
in my feeling they should have played up the Data (Sherlock) vs. Moriarity
theme more.  A battle of wits. 

In the end they give Broccoli --- I mean Barclay --- the responsibility
of keeping safe Professor Moriarity???  Excuse me?  Either erase the
program or give it to, say, Captain Picard or even some science officer
at StarFleet, but not bumbling Barclay.  Maybe he was just supposed to
store it somewhere on the ship.  I don't know.  Seemed like a loose end.
But I loved the very end where Barclay called out "End Program" to see
if he was still inside the holodeck.

Dave
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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: Lynch's Spoiler Review: "Past Prologue"
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 08:01:29 GMT

In article <1jnd6hINNnpl@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> martinso@cps.msu.edu (David Scott Martin) writes:
>I think the "gold-pressed..." was "gold preslatinum" or something like that.
>A variant on platinum?  

No, I distinctly heard "gold-pressed latinum".

>
>But why would gold be valued everywhere, anyway?  Couldn't there be a planet
>where gold is as common as dirt is here?  Just a difference in the available
>elements...different chemistry in the planet's formation.

It's possible. That'd be one rich planet!


-- 
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From: qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord")
Subject: Re: New Group
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:50:18 GMT


	No, it was rec.arts.startrek.sex, not
alt.sex.startrek.  Let's make it easy for the Star Trek people
to find.
						-Quinn
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From: news@rat.physics.ubfd.ca ()
Subject: Re: Suits, Money, etc. (was: line from "Past Prologue")
Originator: root@yonge.csri.toronto.edu
Date: 21 Jan 93 06:19:01 GMT


        I have a comment to make on this issue.  While it is true that the
Federation has done away with money in currency form, recall that this is
certainly not the case with other alliances (e.g. Ferrengi, Klingons, etc...).
Since DS9 was formerly under Cardassian control, and judging from the variety
of races seen on the Promenade, these are are all indicative that money may be
quite common on the station.  Thus, the clothier probably said "buy a suit"
out of habit, and Sisko may have said this as just a way of stating "Go do it,
then; that's an order!".  Opinions??
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