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From: bri@kpc.com (Brian Rice)
Subject: Kubota Pacific, Santa Clara, Software QA Engineer
Followup-To: cbongo@kpc.com
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computer Inc, Santa Clara, CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 04:50:15 GMT

Kubota Pacific Computer, Inc. is a leader in advanced computational
and visualization technologies like 3D graphic supercomputing.
Today, we're pioneering next-generation systems based on our
commitment to RISC, parallel processing, multi-processing, UNIX (tm)
and networking.  It's applied R&D backed by the financial strength
of out $6 billion parent company Kubota Corporation.  The technology
is worth looking into.  And now you can join us in this rewarding 
opportunity with Kubota Pacific Computer.

REQ #1005-158

Position:  Software QA Engineer  

Education & Experience
  -BS degree or equivalent
  -Minimum of 2-5 years experience in product planning/SQA
  -Minimum 3 years UNIX software development experience with emphasis in
  working with UNIX windowing systems (X11, etc.).

Required Skills
  Works on problems of moderate scope where analysis of situation or 
  data requires a review of identifiable factors.  Exercises judgement 
  within defined procedures and practices to determine appropriate 
  action.  Knowledge of evaluation methods in the design, development 
  and debugging of software programs.

Responsibilities
  Responsible for developing, applying and maintaining quality standards
  for company products.  Develops and executes software test plans.
  Develops test suites as required to accomplish the prepared test plans.
  -Analyzes and writes test standards and procedures.  Maintains 
  documentation of test results.  Analyzes test results and recommends 
  corrective action.

We offer a competitive salary and benefits package and an outstanding
bonus program.  For immediate consideration send your resume to:

cbongo@kpc.com

or snail mail to:

Kubota Pacific Computer, Inc., Attn: Human Resources/CB
2630 Walsh Avenue, Santa Clara, Ca., 95051

or fax to:

(408) 727-9301

EOE/AA Employer.  Principals only.

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From: bri@kpc.com (Brian Rice)
Subject: Kubota Pacific, Santa Clara, Graphics Product Specialist
Followup-To: cbongo@kpc.com
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computer Inc, Santa Clara, CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 04:39:04 GMT

Kubota Pacific Computer, Inc. is a leader in advanced computational
and visualization technologies like 3D graphic supercomputing.
Today, we're pioneering next-generation systems based on our
commitment to RISC, parallel processing, multi-processing, UNIX (tm)
and networking.  It's applied R&D backed by the financial strength
of out $6 billion parent company Kubota Corporation.  The technology
is worth looking into.  And now you can join us in this rewarding 
opportunity with Kubota Pacific Computer.

REQ #3010-181

Position:  Graphics Product Specialist  

Education & Experience
  BS or MS in Engineering-related discipline.
  3-5 years Product Management experience in field
  Experience in the area of graphics product marketing particularly
  valued.  This includes a track record in the following areas: market
  analysis creation and documentation of product requirements knowledge 
  of customers, applications and competition creation of marketing 
  collateral ability to interface directly with customers including 
  product presentations, planning and participation in trade shows, 
  moving a product from concept to the customer working with sales, 
  engineering manufacturing, customer support and customers.

Required Skills
  -Product Planning
  -Product Positioning
  -Product Pricing

Additional Skills Desired
  -Outstanding presentation skills
  -Ability to work with Engineering on a Technical level

Responsibilities
  -Graphics Products (hardware and software) Strategy
  -Graphics Products Tactical Marketing
  -Communication with Sales Force

Product
  -Current and future graphics hardware and software

We offer a competitive salary and benefits package and an outstanding
bonus program.  For immediate consideration send your resume to:

cbongo@kpc.com

or snail mail to:

Kubota Pacific Computer, Inc., Attn: Human Resources/CB
2630 Walsh Avenue, Santa Clara, Ca., 95051

or fax to:

(408) 727-9301

EOE/AA Employer.  Principals only.

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From: bill@snoopy (Bill Poitras)
Subject: MSI seeks User Interface Software Engineer
Followup-To: ba.jobs.offered
Reply-To: bill@msi.com
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
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Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:04:09 GMT

SOFTWARE ENGINEER - Sunnyvale, CA

Molecular Simulations Inc. is a fast growing software company which is
a leader in producing tools for the Computer Aided Molecular Design
(CAMD) market.  We are looking to fill the following position:

Software Engineer - User Interface Engineer

Work as part of the Chemistry Backplane team to:
 - define user interface tool requirements
 - design and review the proposed solution
 - Evaluate key technologies which may be incorporated into the product
   plans

Interface with key developers in other groups to understand requirements.

Work cooperatively to develop a highly productive development environment.

Draft appropriate documentation.

REQUIREMENTS

- A good working knowledge of software development under Unix required.

- At least 5 years commercial programming experience

- Minimum of three years relevant experience with each of User
  Interface Development and  C++

- Familiarity with contemporary user interface paradigms and ad-hoc
  standards.

- Working knowledge of Interviews and the Tool Commmand Language (TCL)
  a significant plus.

- Excellent interpersonal skills required.

- Good written and oral presentation skills.

- Master's degree in Computer Science or equivalent.

REPORTS TO:  Manager, Backplane development


If you qualify please send/fax your resume to:

	Molecular Simulations Inc.
	Attn: Bill Poitras
	796 No. Pastoria Avenue
	Sunnyvale, CA 94086

	FAX: (408) 732-0831

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Newsgroups: ba.internet
Subject: Re: ISDN, PacBell, phone charges, USENET and you
From: sulistio@sutro.SFSU.EDU (Sulistio Muljadi)
Date: 27 Sep 92 17:42:09 PDT
Organization: San Francisco State University

In article <5185@bacon.IMSI.COM> jordan@IMSI.COM (Jordan Hayes) writes:
>John Nagle <nagle@netcom.com> writes:
>
>	The main problem is that ISDN interface units still cost more
>	than top-of-the-line modems.
>
>Shouldn't something that gives you 2 56k circuits cost more than
>something that gives you 9.6k async?
>
>-----
>
>Say I had a Sparc 10 that has an ISDN interface built in.  What else
>would I need at my house to get to the network, or would it just plug
>into the wall?
>
>/jordan

If u have a NeXT computer, all you need to do is to buy Hayes ISDN Extender
at high $200.00  And with NeXTSTEP 3.0 (it's shipping already), you can have
ISDN, voice mail, etc. on your NeXT.  Hayes ISDN Extender uses NeXT DSP
port to do its job, that's why it is cheap.  And NeXTSTEP 3.0 include the
necessary software to make your computer talk using ISDN.  Hayes ISDN
Extender is shipping too, now is ISDN line become reality in the US residential
home?


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From: dtlai@srv.PacBell.COM (Danh Lai)
Newsgroups: ba.internet
Subject: Re: ISDN, PacBell, phone charges, USENET and you
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:42:47 GMT
Organization: Pacific * Bell

In article <1992Sep28.215857.630@informix.com> johng@informix.com (John Galloway) writes:
>>w.
>  Perhaps, but ONLY if an UNmetered residential (ideally single line) tariff
>REALLY is going in (in Jan?), otherwise for IP access ISDN as expensive
>as any other metered service (if not more so, though ISDN of course has other
>advantages as well).
>  Will the person who started this (with rumors of such a tariff) please
>post or send me (in confidence if you like) the contact info for someone at
>PacBell who konws what is happening?  (the reps I talk to all say well
>it seems like at some point in the future, but...).  thanks!
>	-jrg
>
I don't work in the ISDN group any more so info that I posted hear are
definitely not official and only personal. Anyway, single line tariff are being
worked on at PacBell. It's going to be a hard sell to the CPUC in my opinion
because of the E911 issue. Currently, it's mandate that Emergency 911 has the
highest reliability possible that means even if the power is out. Existing ISDN
arrangement requires the customer to provide power and all the relevant CPEs
which by no mean meets thr stringent telephone network requirements. If and when
one of these weak point fail, there ought to be an alternate, reliable access
method to reach E911. I don't know the solution to this btw.

One way to get around this is to 1 ISDN and 1 analog POT line as a back up. A
Ha, now, this would meet the requirement for a minimum Centrex (of 2 lines) !
The problem I see of getting Centrex is the start up cost. This can be
alleviated if you can team up with your local user group and establish all your
lines (neighbors that serve of the same switch) as part of a Centrex group. 

Just a thought :)
Danh Lai
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From: eric@telebit.com (Eric Smith)
Subject: Re: ISDN, PacBell, phone charges, USENET and you
To: cliff@garnet.berkeley.edu
X-Disclaimer: Everything I write is false.
Organization: Telebit Corporation
	<ERIC.92Sep26183038@iceland.telebit.com>
	<1a834uINNmjh@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:51:10

>>On 28 Sep 1992 23:06:06 GMT, cliff@garnet.berkeley.edu (Cliff Frost) said:
> The PacBell 2B+D Centrex IS offering does indeed allow both B channels
> to be used for data.

You were probably responding to my post.

Feature package C does let you use both B channels for data, but I was
complaining that it only lets you use one B channel for voice (according to
my Pac Bell rep; I haven't tried it).

I don't understand what the point is of not letting you use either B channel
for whatever you want.

By the way, someone told me that with package C you get a separate phone
number for each B channel.  I guess if I want two people to be able to call
me simultaneous using the same phone number, I have to set it up as a hunt
group.  This is fine for Centrex,  but once they get a residential tarriff
how will I do that?

Eric
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From: ken@sdd.hp.com (Ken Stone)
Newsgroups: ba.internet
Subject: Re: ISDN, PacBell, phone charges, USENET and you
Date: 26 Sep 92 13:46:10 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard, San Diego Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpsdlz.sdd.hp.com

>Oh?  Does that mean no use charge for local calls?

Thats right ... I believe the quote was "no different than POTS as far as
zones and charges go" ...

  -- Ken
From: mrapple@quack.sac.ca.us (Nick Sayer)
Newsgroups: ba.internet
Subject: Re: ISDN, PacBell, phone charges, USENET and you
Date: 27 Sep 92 22:09:06 GMT
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.

Yes, ISDN != Ethernet, but ISDN != POTS... ISDN connections are nearly
instantaneous. You could very well have 12 people running TCP/IP to the
same ISDN port. How? You simply make the connections dial-on-demand
with rediculously low timeouts. Thus, you 'make a call' for nearly every
packet. Why not? It's free, and with ISDN, it's fast.

Maybe not the 12:1 ratio, but with a 10 second timeout, you could
probably maintain 3:1 acceptably - besides, not everyone's going to
want to talk to you at once.

Using it for bulk transfers will probably hose this plan over a
little, since they wouldn't time out and let the next guy have a
shot...

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From: eric@telebit.com (Eric Smith)
Subject: Re: ISDN, PacBell, phone charges, USENET and you
X-Disclaimer: Everything I write is false.
Organization: Telebit Corporation
	<19vom3INNkoi@fido.asd.sgi.com> <1992Sep25.232832.23430@PacBell.COM>
Date: 26 Sep 92 18:30:38

>>On Fri, 25 Sep 1992 23:28:32 GMT, dtlai@srv.PacBell.COM (Danh Lai) said:
> Centrex IS are offered in 4 packages.

> Package C = 2B+1D : This package is the ultimate offering of BRI-Centrex
> (~$30.00/mo)        IS. You can used any of the 2B channels for either
>                     voice or data and X.25 packet data on the D channel.

This is $29.50/month ($15.65 base Centrex chages plus $13.85 ISDN charge).
The installation is $220.00 ($70 base Centrex + $150 ISDN charge).
A new customer Centrex service establishment charge of $300 to $600 may apply.
There is a 2 line minimum per Centrex group.  This can be met with 2 BRIs,
or 1 BRI and 1 analog line.  The 2 lines don't have to be installed at the same
address.

Unfortunately, this doesn't allow you to use both B channels for voice
simultaneously.  You can only use one at a time for voice.  I have no idea
why they tariffed it that way; the 5ESS is certainly capable of allowing any
combination of voice and data on the B channels.  Perhaps the DMS-100 isn't
as capable.  Or they may have done it so they can still sell you custom
annoyance ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H calling features like call waiting and three
way calling.  If I could just use the other B channel, I wouldn't need them.

> Package D = 2B+1D : The 2B channels can only be used for voice call. The
>                     D channel can only be used for call signalling. 

This gets you two telephone numbers.

> PacBell also offers Centrex IS - PRI but this is quite expensive. It would
> cost around $1500 for installation and about $1500/month.

In addition to those charges, you have to pay for a leased T1 to the CO.
This seems strange.  When I buy a POTS or ISDN BRI line, it includes the
connection from my premises to the CO, but an ISDN PRI line, which costs much
more, doesn't.

It's much cheaper to buy 12 BRIs and get 24B+12D than it is to buy 1 PRI
for 23B+4D (1D actually, but it's a 64Kbps D).  Is this ridiculous or what?

Eric
From: jordan@IMSI.COM (Jordan Hayes)
Newsgroups: ba.internet
Subject: Re: ISDN, PacBell, phone charges, USENET and you
Date: 25 Sep 92 19:18:30 GMT
Organization: Investment Management Services Inc., NYC

John Nagle <nagle@netcom.com> writes:

	The main problem is that ISDN interface units still cost more
	than top-of-the-line modems.

Shouldn't something that gives you 2 56k circuits cost more than
something that gives you 9.6k async?

-----

Say I had a Sparc 10 that has an ISDN interface built in.  What else
would I need at my house to get to the network, or would it just plug
into the wall?

/jordan
From: wisner@netcom.com (Bill Wisner)
Newsgroups: ba.internet
Subject: Re: ISDN, PacBell, phone charges, USENET and you
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:26:09 GMT
Organization: Trailing Edge Technologies, Mountain View, CA

OK, anyone in the south bay?

w.
From: kessler@sluggo.Eng.Sun.COM (Tom Kessler, Internet Spokesmodel)
Newsgroups: ba.internet
Subject: Re: ISDN, PacBell, phone charges, USENET and you
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:37:33
Organization: Rocket Scientists Anonymous
	<1992Sep27.174209.2766@nic.csu.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: sluggo
In-reply-to: sulistio@sutro.SFSU.EDU's message of 28 Sep 92 00:42:09 GMT


It turns out you need to spend ~$150 on an NT1, a power supply, and 3 to
4 random cables to get your SS10 running.  I expect you would need the
same for a NeXT but I don't know for sure.

>>
>>Say I had a Sparc 10 that has an ISDN interface built in.  What else
>>would I need at my house to get to the network, or would it just plug
>>into the wall?
>>
>>/jordan
>
>If u have a NeXT computer, all you need to do is to buy Hayes ISDN Extender
>at high $200.00  And with NeXTSTEP 3.0 (it's shipping already), you can have
>ISDN, voice mail, etc. on your NeXT.  Hayes ISDN Extender uses NeXT DSP
>port to do its job, that's why it is cheap.  And NeXTSTEP 3.0 include the
>necessary software to make your computer talk using ISDN.  Hayes ISDN
>Extender is shipping too, now is ISDN line become reality in the US residential
>home?
From: cliff@garnet.berkeley.edu (Cliff Frost)
Newsgroups: ba.internet
Subject: Re: ISDN, PacBell, phone charges, USENET and you
Date: 28 Sep 1992 23:06:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

The PacBell 2B+D Centrex IS offering does indeed allow both B channels
to be used for data.  Several of us (too many for the gear we have ;-)
are using it daily for telecommuting from our homes to campus.

If you want to bridge ethernets, you may be able to use gear from:
Combinet, Digiboard, Gandalf, and kn-X limited (that's how it's spelled).

If you want to bridge token rings or other media, check with the above
companies.

If you want sync or async serial connections you may be able to use gear
from these same companies, and/or Hayes and UDS/Motorola.

	Cliff
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From: wisner@netcom.com (Bill Wisner)
Subject: Re: ISDN, PacBell, phone charges, USENET and you
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 03:08:10 GMT
Organization: Trailing Edge Technologies, Mountain View, CA

So who's going to be the first network provider to provide low-cost,
dialup ISDN Internet access?  I sense a business opportunity.

w.
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From: dlr@daver.bungi.com (Dave Rand)
Subject: Re: ISDN, PacBell, phone charges, USENET and you
Organization: Association for the Prevention of Polar Bears and Kangaroos
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 00:21:33 GMT

In article <fTaAosW@quack.sac.ca.us> mrapple@quack.sac.ca.us (Nick Sayer) writes:
>Yes, ISDN != Ethernet, but ISDN != POTS... ISDN connections are nearly
>instantaneous. You could very well have 12 people running TCP/IP to the
>same ISDN port. How? You simply make the connections dial-on-demand
>with rediculously low timeouts. Thus, you 'make a call' for nearly every
>packet. Why not? It's free, and with ISDN, it's fast.

Within the switch, it is fast. No question. But it is 6 seconds (approx)
for external connections. That isn't fast.

>Maybe not the 12:1 ratio, but with a 10 second timeout, you could
>probably maintain 3:1 acceptably - besides, not everyone's going to
>want to talk to you at once.

Wanna bet? Every time I have tried to set up a 'fair share' plan like
this, it has failed, due to some (l)users hogging the port/modem/board/
machine/... If you are reading news via nntp, your connection is going
to be up continuously, unless you timeout in the millisecond range.

How does your PPP handle failed connection attempts? Mine doesn't do
very well...

>Using it for bulk transfers will probably hose this plan over a
>little, since they wouldn't time out and let the next guy have a
>shot...

Could always have two ports, one for demand PPP one for UUCP.

-- 
Dave Rand
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From: johng@informix.com (John Galloway)
Newsgroups: ba.internet
Subject: Re: ISDN, PacBell, phone charges, USENET and you
Date: 26 Sep 92 09:11:45 GMT
Organization: Galloway Research

In article <19vqlbINN1d1@hpsdlz.sdd.hp.com> ken@sdd.hp.com (Ken Stone) writes:
>
>Word from the "ISDN Specialist" manning the PacBell booth at the TCA show
>this week was that there would be a residential ISDN tariff in the $12 to
>$15 per month range by first qtr next year ... great news since my CO is
>supposedly scheduled for ISDN capability in the same timeframe.
As one of the follow-up-ers noted, the key here is whether it is a metered
or unmetered line.  Another issue is the cost of the ISDN Brouter that
you need, Digiboard's IMAC is ~$2,200. which is 5-6 times the price of your 
basic v32bis modem (you reliably get a 4-8 times the Peak modem speed, and
less hassle of course but I'm just thinking of what it will take for ISDN to
be the standard WAN technology for most folks).

We could move this thread to comp.dcom.isdn, but that group seems more
concerned with the gory details of how isdn works rather than how to use it.

Will someone who is familar with the other ISDN network products (routers
bridges, br inerfaces, pr interfaces) post a quick summary?  here is the
Digiboard info

Digicom IMAC:
	about a modem sized box
	IEE 802.3 BNC and AUI connectors (does this mean thick and thin?)
	ISDN Basic Rate RJ-45 connector
	RS-232 port

	does filtering of up to 15 addresses (can look at either the
		ethernet address or other data in the first 64 bytes of pkt).
	net mgt sw that works from PC connected to the serial port or
		from any host on the ethernet
	can use 1B, 2B or ISDN voice (this last feature lets it connect
		at 56K to ANY ISDN point, even if inter-CO ISDN is NOT
		available as long as the COs are connected digitally,
		which is usually true).
	does automatic call on demand and drop after idle
	has a trianing mode where it learns what isdn numbers are
		assoicated with what packets
	The borchure does not claim to support any of the standrad
		tcp/ip routine protocols (e.g. RIP) so I assume the
		filtering setup is not integrated with existing protocols
		and must be done specially for this devicde (though it
		sounds pretty easy)
	(I have not used this product, I have only read their brochure)
	price: $2,195
	contact: DigiBoard (612) 943- 9020 or (800) 344-4273
	-jrg

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