Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Masons
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 22:38:07 GMT
Organization: The CServer at the Z*NET International Global News Gateway

hallam@zeus02.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker) writes:

> In article <1993Jan20.231802.7359@odin.corp.sgi.com>, zursch@whizkid.wpd.sgi.
> (Jeffrey B. Zurschmeide) writes:
> 
> |>In article <1993Jan20.163855.9773@midway.uchicago.edu>, Ted Frank writes:
> |>>I'm not a big Mason fan, but this is completely false.  No one has
> |>>thought this since the racist Know-Nothings in the 1840's.
> |>
> |>That's not wholly true, either, Ted. 
> |>
> |>Many looney fundamentalist Christians now believe the Masons to be a
> |>satanic and cultist organization. 
> |>
> |>(Considering my Grandfather was a Mason and I myself was a DeMolay (junior
> |>masonic group) I find that pretty funny...) 
> 
> So the Catholic church is "looney fundamentalist", perhaps but I don't think 
> in this definition.
 
 Well I guess it is how you look at it. In this case i would agree with
 you but I personaly agree with Madonna and her thoughts on the 
 Catholic church 100% and I think they are long over due for their
 day.
 
> 
> There is a big divide between US and european freemasonry. The latter was ver
 
 Opps no-one told us European's this. When was this the case, and where
 did you get such dis-information from ?
 
> important in the last century and was used to break the power of the Catholic
> church in Italy. It is no accident that Garribaldi was a freemason.
> 
> The corrupt P2 lodge and the banco ambrosiano scandal show that freemasonry h
> a very shaddy side. Mafia and fascist infiltration is widespread. They were a
 
 Ah no I see where you get your dis-information from. Fairy stories.
 Please for the sake of the readers in this news.group understand the
 differnce between Freemasonary and a Friendly society/fraternity.
 
 P2 was not a Freemasons Lodge as it was not a I.O.O.F lodge or
 any other society you care to mention. It was infact its own
 society who happened as is the case in many organisation to have
 freemasons belonging to it as is the case with my computer user
 group, but my computer user group is not a Freemasons lodge Phill.
 
> implicated in Gladio and the Raverna train station bombing, a plot by the
> fascist right to create a red scare to smear the left.
> 
 Which they did a good job of if this indeed the case as you state, but
 what does this have to do with the orginal topic Phill? Nothing at all!
 
 I guess at some stage stories get muted as fact and through their
 continued reference, therefore they are, they must be fact! Phill please
 do some study on the subject before diving head first into a global news
 group where what you think is fact in the USA is dribble to the rest of
 the known world.
> 
> --
> 
> Phill Hallam-Baker

 Well stated to Ted, you have the hit the nail on the head. If you want 
 some very good information on this from the so called gifted few have
 a read of Mr Barry Smiths books on the end times, Freemasonary, Credit
 Cards and the likes. It makes for great reading (humour at it's best).
 
 If you want to know more on the money making machine of Smith and his
 Elim crew feel free to bring this into this news group (Phill) and I
 will be happy to explain facts like ..
 
 - Church seeding for $5000 per head at his retreat in Marlbourogh
 - A few good gut wrenching truths and more.. 
 
 This is all personal fact not fairy stories.
 
 
 ---
 "Hey Fred" "What do you want? I am into page 322 of the A.R.S.V and
  tyring to equate it to the King James" "Remember 1692, Fred?"
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