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From: goldrick@ug.cs.dal.ca (Majeed  Goldrick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: FAQ?
Date: 31 Aug 92 02:41:55 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

Hi there,

I won't waste your time with my qemm/Win386 enhanced mode question - I was 
just wondering if someone could let me know where I could find the FAQ
for this group via FTP.  (Then I'll big you all with my problem...)

Please let me know by e-mail...

thanks, 

Majeed.
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: phil@oracodev.uucp (P. Suematsu)
Subject: DV/X Sockets Example
Organization: Optical Research Associates
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 06:33:40 GMT

Does anyone have an example on how to use the sockets feature of
DESQview/X?  I've tried a simple Streams socket example for Unix,
but that doesn't seem to work.

Has anyone got the XtAppAddInput() feature to work in DESQview/X?
I get the message "Warning: Select failed; error code 22" when I
go into the XtAppMainLoop().

I'm trying to put these two features together to perform event-driven
interprocess communication on the same PC, where non-interprocess-
communication X events have to be process too.  Anyone have any other
suggestions?


Thanks in advance,

Phil Suematsu
Optical Research Associates
(818) 795-9101  voice
(818) 795-9102  fax
uunet!oracodev!phil
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: kevr@is.morgan.com (Kevin Reilly)
Subject: X-Clients on the PC
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Company
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:06:13 GMT

Please excuse my ignorance if I do not present the problem as
clearly as you might want.
I have a 486 pc and a Telebit 9600 baud modem, I am interested in
dialing in to the Network at my job location (Sun-based) and
displaying multiple xterm windows on my pc. Not full-fledged
x apps just terminal windows for user support capability.
From DesqView's advertisements it indicates that this may be the
platform to use. Has anyone actually accomplished this feat? I spoke
with DesqView but strangely they weren't very helpful or seemed to
really be able to lay out EXACTLY what needed to be done or if
it was possible!
I would think it would be simple enough!
If anyone could lend a hand that would be great!
Please e-mail
kevr@is.morgan.com
Thank you in advance!
Kevin M. Reilly
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: kemp@convex.com (Phil Kemp)
Subject: DV/X, djgpp lib functions, experiences
Summary: looking for alarm ,popen,pclose in djgpp for dv/x
Keywords: dv/x djgpp lib popen pclose alarm
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 05:13:28 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

I've been making some headway with the djgpp 1.08 and the dv/x libs..
I compiled the test codes and finally got things working with a slip
PC/TCP network loaded. I had to remove access serial ports from all
window dvps..

So I thought I would tackle xless. That compiled fairly easily and in
fact works. There are some glitches with spawning an editor and some
resource settings seem to make go32 go crazy.. I'm encouraged.

I would like to try and get xloadimage up and running. I've got the
objects compiled but when I try and link I get unresolved externals of
these three routines.

alarm
popen
pclose

Does anyone have and idea how to implement these on dv/x... Do you
have code fragments that implement these with sockets and select?

Thanks
PK

--
Phil Kemp, Systems Engineer         Voice:(403)-233-2815
CONVEX Computer Canada Ltd.           Fax:(403)-261-2029
Calgary, Alta.                  Internet:kemp@convex.com

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: garyrich@qdeck.com (Gary Rich)
Subject: Re: S3 drivers for DVX wanted
Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica CA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:09:05 GMT

In article <tgtbtk.714846433@tb3.chem.tue.nl> tgtbtk@chem.tue.nl writes:
>I just received Desqview/X with the LWP4DOS drivers but I really need
>S3 drivers. I hate using X applications running in VGA mode on my new
>S3 adapter and 17" Eizo (Nanao) monitor!!!
>Any suggestions?
>
>
Patience???  Sorry, but there is currently no support for the S3 chipset
in anything other than standard (640x480x16) VGA.  We've heard a few
reports of success using the VESA 800x600x16 mode.  To set this up,
edit the DVX.CFG file and change the "screen" line to "screen 800x600:6ah"
You may also need to change the "type VGA" line to "type VG8" (I can't
remember for sure).  I can't promise that this will work, but it has for others.

Gary Rich		<support@qdeck.com>

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: dmurdoch@mast.queensu.ca (Duncan Murdoch)
Subject: QEMM and Symphony shadowram
Organization: Queen's University
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 03:54:18 GMT

I've got a DTK 486-33 with DTK BIOS and Symphony chipset.  I was just 
fooling around with the Symphony setup tonight, and noticed a choice for 0K 
relocation or 256K relocation.  The manual is very unclear about the 
details, but it seems that when I request 256K relocation, that much 
shadow ram disappears and reappears as extended memory.  The machine came 
with the 256K relocation enabled, so I had 3328K of extended memory - a 4 
Meg machine.  

The reason I was fooling around is that I've been having problems running 
Win 3.0 under Desqview.  It says something like "Protected Mode Violation, 
try running in Real Mode" when I try to start it up.  At least it used to - 
now I've got the relocation disabled (set to 0K), and it works fine in 
standard mode.

The only trouble is that I've lost 256K of memory.  So, my question:  is 
there some option to QEMM386 (I'm using 2.42) which would make Win 3.0 work 
with relocation enabled, or which would recover the shadow ram with it not?
The manual says it can do this for some chipsets, but doesn't mention the 
Symphony chipset.

Duncan Murdoch
dmurdoch@mast.queensu.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: burge@qdeck.com (Bill Burge)
Subject: Re: No Virtual Memory option in DV/X setup
Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica CA
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:23:19 GMT

In article <1992Aug24.220144.664@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> z_youngwd@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>
>I am running DV/X and QEMM 6.02 on a 386/33 with 10 meg of ram.
>
Please use the QEMM 6.03 that came with DV/X.  It has special support
for the DOS extenders used with DV/X.

>In my manual and readme file for DV/X, an option for setting virtual
>memory is mentioned (and even shown on the menu in the installation
>guide) for DV/X setup.
>
>Any ideas?
>

Sorry Wayne.  THis is one of those "which is stranger, truth of Fiction"
The lack of it being there is the truth.  It is not there and probably
will never be there.  THe reference to it in the docs is pure fiction.
We MAY implement so way to manipulate the valuse but it will PROBABLY
be in SETUP.

Bill	burge@qdeck.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: kemp@convex.com (Phil Kemp)
Subject: Re: DV/X, djgpp lib functions, experiences
Keywords: dv/x djgpp lib popen pclose alarm
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 07:46:09 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Sep4.061712.6616@umr.edu> mcastle@mcs213d.cs.umr.edu (Michael R Castle) writes:

>This may be a faq, but I've not seen any posts commenting on it, so:

>Are all the interrupts and hooks that are used in DV also supported in DV/X??

I believe so. But there are more in dv/x. There is a 'socket'
interface that converts dv mailbox and interrupt capabilities to
socket type calls.

>If so, you can *probably* grab Ralf Brown QOS specific interrupt list, and use
>that as a starting point for creating some pretty decent multitasking libs.  I'm
>not sure how well those interrupts handle, being called from protected mode, but

Most of it seems to be there. I can spawn x-windows from the command
line. There is a way to spawn new dos windows as well. Maybe Ralf has
that documented. I'll take a look.

>I'm sure something can be worked out.  Is the source supplied for dv/x libs??

No only the libs. Too bad. 

>I didn't download those, because I don't have dv/x :-<.  If so, how do they do
>the calls??

There is a libsys.a which implements these routines.

__.SYMDEF accept.o bind.o connect.o gethaddr.o gethname.o gethost.o
getpeer.o getpname.o getpnumb.o getsname.o getsport.o getsockn.o
getsocko.o htons.o htonl.o inetaddr.o inetlnao.o makeaddr.o netof.o
network.o ioctl.o issock.o listen.o ntohs.o ntohl.o recv.o recvfrom.o
select.o send.o sendto.o setsocko.o socket.o attach.o init.o fatal.o
close.o detach.o getpid.o gettime.o x4connec.o present.o dispatch.o
exit.o unphost.o unpserv.o unpproto.o unpack.o ntoa.o dvpath.o
newproc.o linkup.o canonic.o unlinkup.o password.o hostutil.o
gethent.o sethent.o getsent.o setsent.o raisepri.o lowerpri.o
maladdto.o malfind.o apiisobj.o winme.o winstrea.o timnew.o timfree.o
timaddto.o malnew.o malopen.o malfree.o malname.o malsizeo.o
malnread.o apibegin.o apiendc.o obqopen.o obqsizeo.o obqread.o
obqclose.o soprivat.o daemon.o sysgo32.o pifstart.o pifopen.o getuid.o
sethostp.o endhoste.o endserve.o getnetty.o getnetst.o getnetti.o
shutdown.o regcmp.o regex.o sendv.o recvv.o apipause.o help.o
listman.o

The other libs are all x-windows libraries.

I guess it's time to dust off a good dissasembler.
PK
From: DIXONW@arizvm1.ccit.arizona.edu (Bill Dixon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: Saving large windows after graphics
Date: 29 Aug 92 17:14:44 GMT
Distribution: usa,local
Organization: University of Arizona


    This question concerns WP5.1 under DVX. I recently discovered that I could
run WP in a very large window (40x100) with virtualized text. This is very
convenient with scaled fonts since they frequently run more than the usual 80
columns. WP is setup to auto select its video mode, so no special modes get
used. (The same effect can be obtained with special modes but they must run
in direct windows.) Window switching works like a charm.
     The problem arises when I use the graphical view document option in WP.
The view works fine but when I quit to go back to the WP editing screen my nice
large window resolves back to a small (24x80) window in a different sized font.
It is possible to resize the window manually, but WP fails to understand the
new size and stubbornly uses only a small portion of the new window (the rest
is simply black rather than the WP blue background). I have played a bit with
some window size settings but have had no luck. Is there any way to preserve
this large window after graphics? Thanks.
 
- - - -
   William J. Dixon
   Dept. of Political Science          Phone: (602) 621-7600
   University of Arizona              Bitnet: DIXONW AT ARIZVM1
   Tucson, Arizona 85721            Internet: dixonw@arizvm1.ccit.arizona.edu
From: vla@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Louis Verhagen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: Max mem for Dv/x & Ipx, Netx
Date: 29 Aug 1992 06:55:26 GMT
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy
NNTP-Posting-Host: ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au

I have being trying to get my Ipx & Netx
to load in the manner described  by David
Granz, but Dv/x keeps on hanging on the netx.

So in network.bat I have
c:\dvx\device c:\ftp\ifcust.sys
c:\dvx\device c:\ftp\ipcust.sys
c:\drv\ni5210 -n -w 0x60 0x5 0x330 0xdc00
c:\ftp\ethdrv -t 20 -p 26 -u 2

c:\drv\ipx			'loads fine'
c:\drv\netx			'hangs the loading of  DV/X

nsftp				'never gets here

I have increased the pctcp.dvp memory to 500k (without the
ipx & netx everything works fine with 250k). I tried
emsnetx but that didn't help either. 
I also tried to load  if-/ipcust ni5210 in the autoexec and
the ethdrv in dvx but that gives really strange results
with the telnet program(I can't log into some machines
any more). I need the ipx to access the printer on the
novell network. So anybody HELP please.

Louis Verhagen
Australia
vla@waves.ce.adfa.oz.au

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: books@fsunuc.physics.fsu.edu (Roger Books)
Subject: Re: DV/X and X11 fonts
Organization: FSU Physics Dept.
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 18:11:55 GMT

In article <YebhFq_00YV7I8bUx8@andrew.cmu.edu> mp52+@andrew.cmu.edu (Matthew Edward Patton) writes:
>I am using DV/X on a unix network which relies on X11 fonts.  I have run
>across some snags in displaying various remote X apps.  So far, the apps
>all display somewhat correctly, but are missing in various areas. 
>Especially noticable are the cursors which get replaced with such
>alphanumerics like 'H', 'a', and 'j' etc.  From what I have seen in my
>DVX/server/fonts/75dip and misc directories, my font choice is quite
>limited.  I find this intollerable.  I took the liberty of downloading a
>couple megs worth of X11 fonts off my network, but they are named with
>the extention ".pcf"  and DV/X's are '.snf'.  Can someone explain how
>DV/X finds and uses fonts in the font directories and what format they
>are supposed to be in?  Can these .pcf fonts be translated to .snf's? 
>So far I have seen no change in the display capability of DV/X ie. I'm
>still stuck with courier and helvetica.  Can anyone help in remedying
>the font crunch?

After having been through the font quest I have found out the following:

You need to get .bdf fonts and then run bdftosnf on them.  This program is
something QD missed but has now.  You can either get it from them or I can
UUEncode it and mail it to you.  If you get it from them and they email it
be warned that they do not use UUEncoding, they use BtoA and AtoB.  Hopefully
they will put it on an anon/ftp site.

If you can't find .bdf files there is a program that lets you take whatever
font file format the host uses and save it as a .bdf file.  It's in something
called bdfutilities.  If you have problems finding it E-Mail me.  (I would
put in the prog name here but My mail reader is on my pc, won't run under
DV/X, and my mail is on a VAX.)

>Thanks for all insight.



		Roger
		books@fsunuc.physics.fsu.edu
From: kevin.fong@uttsbbs.uucp (Kevin Fong) 
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: SMARTDRIVE AND DV 2.41?
Date: 25 Aug 92 12:34:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591
Reply-To: kevin.fong@uttsbbs.uucp (Kevin Fong) 

In an earlier news article, I posted a help request because I was
getting system lockups on my bulletin board system which was running
three nodes on a 40mhz 386 with DV 2.41 and QEMM 6.02.  I won't go into
detail on the scenario, since I'm sure it's still in the newsgroup
somewhere (or at least archived).

Nevertheless, I have found what appears to be the culprit.  I am running
DOS 5.0 and using Smartdrv version 4.0 (the .EXE release that came with
Windows 3.1).

Ever since I turned off the DEFAULT of WRITE CACHE ON my lockup problems
have stopped.

That is, by default, Smartdrv enables disk write caching.  To turn it
off:  smartdrv c- d- (which turns off write caching on drive c and d).

My question then... is there a known incompatibility between smartdrv's
disk write caching and DV2.41 along with QEMM 6.02?

Kevin
Internet:  kevin.fong@uttsbbs.uucp
  or try:  sysop@uttsbbs.uucp
 
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: burge@qdeck.com (Bill Burge)
Subject: Re: Dv/X and TCP/IP
Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica CA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:06:41 GMT

In article <MARKE.92Aug25083521@fsi-ssd.csg.ssd.fsi.com> marke@fsi-ssd.csg.ssd.fsi.com (Mark W. Easter) writes:
>In article <m#myqtj@rpi.edu> firsta@jacob.its.rpi.edu (Allen S. Firstenberg) writes:
>
>>   mp52+@andrew.cmu.edu (Matthew Edward Patton) writes:
>>
>>   >It stated
>>   >that the .sys files were improperly configured, or that the host name
>>   >data didn't match between my hosts file and that on the sever.  Now, the
>>   >last statement is true because I don't have a hosts file.  How am I
>>   >supposed to make one?  Does anyone know the format?
>>
>>   I don't think you need a host file (at least I never bothered to
>>   create one, and I'm working fine).
>
>I had this same problem until I created a hosts file.  I created
>\etc\hosts and added "192.9.222.38 homebase" (my end) and
>"192.9.222.39 dev1.csg.ssd.fsi.com dev1" (the host end).  This solved
>the problem.
>-- 

Don't forget to add some whitespace and the word "localhost" after the name
that designates yourself.  Example:

192.9.222.38  homebase  localhost

Keep up the good work.

Bill	burge@qdeck.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: joet@dcatlas.dot.gov (Joe Trott)
Subject: Re: problems with Quattro 4.0 under DV
Organization: U.S Dept. of Transportation
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:10:04 GMT


Oh, I do have one occasional small problem (easy to "fix").  Sometimes
I will get significant artifacts left behind from opening and closing
menus (remember, I'm in WYSIWYG mode).  A quick PgDn-PgUp will restore the
screen to its proper condition, so it really isn't a big deal.

My system is a 486/33 w/8MB RAM and a Diamond Stealth VGA card.  My first
window is invariably a BD session; QPro, WP5.1, etc. are then run in
subsequent windows.  

-JTT

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: liberato@dri.com (Jimmy Liberato)
Subject: Re: QEMM with HW EMS?
Reply-To: liberato@dri.com (Jimmy Liberato)
Organization: Novell/Desktop Systems Group, Monterey Development Center
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 21:24:37 GMT

aml@world.std.com (Andrew M Langmead) writes:

>pngai@adobe.com (Phil Ngai) writes:
>
>>I salvaged a 4 megabyte hardware EMS board (Everex 8000) from
>>a 286 system and would like to use it in my 386 as a disk cache.
>>...

>You could try to use QEMM as to control upper memory blocks and be a
>VCPI control program by using the FRAME=NONE parameter. Letting the Everex
>Do the EMS memory. I think that QEMM will still provide that Large Frame
>EMS memory that DESQview needs. 

The Everex card can only provide EMS in the presense of its proprietary
EMM.SYS driver which would not like QEMM at all (and visa-versa).  I don't
know this particular model of Everex board but 90% of Everex EMS boards are
LIM 3.2 small frame. 

>Another option is to make the board extended
>memory and use the SORT:Y option. ...

This is the best bet.  Superpckwik (and others) cache lets you set the lowest 
(from the top) usable extended memory location.  The memory board would need to
be the last added to the system total.

--
Jimmy Liberato   liberato@dri.com
                 ...uunet!drivax!liberato
From: dhollis@nuchat.sccsi.com (Daniel Hollis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: QEMM Stealth ROMs feature..?
Date: 3 Sep 92 10:05:52 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Houston Public Access UNIX

Can someone give more techincal details as to EXACTLY what the
Stealth ROMs feature of QEMM/386 does? I know it somehow converts
ROMs into useable RAM space, but how does it do it exactly? Is it
some sort of memory remapping? Where do the ROMs go? Also, what's
the advantages/disadvantages of using ST:M and ST:F?

I ask this, because Stealth mode, although it seems to work OK, is
making our technician here kinda jumpy, not knowing exactly what
is going on ;)

Also, i've noticed some strange behaviour with QEMM wanting to
place the page frame in strange places. I identified the ethernet
card to QEMM as adapter ram, but for some strange reason it went
ahead and placed the page frame over it. I had to go in and
tell QEMM to manually place the page frame somewhere else. Bleah.

Anyone have any info?

Thanks..

Dan

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: dlucy@sandr.COM (Douglas Lucy)
Subject: Where are the DV/X libs via FTP?
Organization: S&R Software, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 21:14:29 GMT

I'd like to grab the just-announced DV/X libs and GNU compiler.
Can someone point me to the FTP site & path?

Thanks!
-- 
| Doug Lucy, Chief Geek | "It just doesn't matter" |  in /dev/null,   |
| S&R Software, Inc     |        -Bill Murray      |   no one can     |
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: QEMM and LANTASTIC: problems?
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 03:43:34 GMT

award@farside.auspex.com (Andrew Ward) writes:

>Is anyone using QEMM386  6.03 and Lantastic 4.1 AI sucessfully.

One in two or three thousand folks, maybe.  The server crashes
under DESQview.  Reportedly, the companies are working on a
resolution to the problem, having passed beyond the "It's YOUR
fault!" phase.  It appears that running on a workstation is
possible, but the moment a server is used, goodbye.

Sigh.
From: eomc40@festival.ed.ac.uk (K McBain)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: 132 Column displays
Summary: Any 132 column programs?
Keywords: VGA
Date: 4 Sep 92 11:02:20 GMT
Distribution: comp

Does anyone know of any public domain or shareware software that allow
132 columns to be displayed on a "normal" PC. We can do it with the
Trident graphics card, as it provides some extra software, but on our IBM PS/2's
we do not have the same luck.

We are not as concerned about increasing the number of rows on the
screen, but if the potential software does it, then fine.

A cornucopia of thanks in advance to any useful replies.

Kenneth McBain
From: sharp@mizar.usc.edu (Malcolm Sharp)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Reboot a PC from a batch file.
Date: 30 Aug 1992 17:21:21 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu


I use a program "COLDBOOT.COM".  It's PD so I'm sure it's around via
anon-ftp.  If you can't find it, I'll put it somewhere for you.

Malcolm
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: rnichols@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (robert.k.nichols)
Subject: Re: Norton Utility's Calibrate: Is it good or not?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 05:11:56 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.034211.15273@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> dww2@po.CWRU.Edu (David W. Woodward) writes:
>
>Regarding Low-level formatting an IDE drive:
>
>One of the reasons I have heard FOR low level formatting is to do things
>like re-writing the sectors (putting them back in place to remove potential
>problems caused by the heads drifting etc.).  I also heard (a long time
>ago) that you should do a LLFormat on a hard drive after you change its
>orientation (vertical or horizontal).  These sounded logical.  It has
>always bothered me that you can't do this with an IDE.  Are these two things
>not necessary for IDE drives, or was the information I was given paranoid?
>(IE--neither things are necessary.)

Essentially, you are advised that (1) the drive should be formatted in its
operating orientation, and (2) you shouldn't low-level format the drive.
You have four choices:
	1.  Mount the drive in its most likely orientation and assume that
	    the manufacturer formatted it that way.
	2.  Mount the drive any way you please and figure that it will
	    probably work just fine anyway.
	3.  Get the necessary software and low-level format the drive yourself.
	4.  Special-order a drive formatted in the orientation you prefer
	    (or find a repair shop that will reformat the drive for you).

Unless you're getting a drive that's really pushing the state of the art,
option 2 will probably be totally satisfactory.  I've never experienced
an orientation sensitivity in any modern drive small enough to hold in 1 hand.
On the other hand, I've never had a problem with reformatting IDE drives
either.  Maybe I'm just lucky.  Your mileage may vary.

Bob Nichols
rnichols@ihlpm.ih.att.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc