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Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: .PBK to MS-Win CardFile ????
From: vcmgt0j7@VAX.CSUN.EDU (Mingfang Li)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 04:19:24 GMT
Reply-To: vcmgt0j7@VAX.CSUN.EDU
Organization: Cal State Northridge

In article <1180006@hpopd.pwd.hp.com>, howard@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Howard Price) writes:
>Hi All
>
>Does anybody know of a way of converting LX .PBK files to MS-Windows
>CardFile format? 

There is a program on CompuServe HPSYS Lib #14 that does just that.  I believe 
the name of the program is CRDTOPBK.

>
>Answers on a postcard please ;-).
>
>Howie
>
>
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Mingfang Li
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Internet: MLI@VAX.CSUN.EDU
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From: jjd@BBN.COM (James J Dempsey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: HP Lock mode suggestion
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:07:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.ku18amINNdhk
Reply-To: jjd@BBN.COM (James J Dempsey)
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

I played with a 1MB HP-95LX this weekend, and I thought it was a great
toy.  I have a suggestion to the HP people:

It would be nice if when in password lock mode, turning on the machine
showed more than the "pwd:" prompt.  It should also show the owner's
name and phone number so that if the 95LX gets lost while in lock
mode, the finder will be able to track down the owner.

		--Jim Dempsey--
		jjd@bbn.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: neth@blockp.zko.dec.com (Craig Neth)
Subject: Re: HP 95LX to Mac?
Reply-To: neth@blockp.zko.dec.com (Craig Neth)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 12:09:42 GMT


I've been using MacLink Plus PC with good success to talk between a HP95LX
and a Mac IIci.  I had to use Kermit to get the MacLink PC program loaded onto
the HP but after that it all runs smoothly.  The nice thing about this setup
is that the MacLink software can copy and translate the PC file formats
into Mac file formats on the fly.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Craig Neth                         ! neth@blockp.enet.dec.com
Digital Equipment Corporation      !
110 Spit Brook Road ZKO2-3/K06     !
Nashua, NH 03062                   ! Opinions expressed herein are my own.
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From: jew@sunquest.sunquest.com (Ward...  James Ward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: pocket modems and the HP95LX
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:21:26 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.palmtops
Organization: Sunquest Information Systems

I just purchased a Megahertz modem and found that it doesn't work with
my HP95LX.  When I plug the modem into the serial port, the display
goes blank.  The modem works fine, but the display becomes unreadable.
I tested the modem on a Toshiba T-1000 and it works fine there too.
HP95LX technical support assured me that any non line-powered modem
would work.  I guess they were wrong.  Megahertz said they had no
solution for the HP95LX at this time.

I understand that the US Robotics Worldport series are supposed to
work.  What has anyone else got working?  I am specifically interested
in at least 2400 baud, MNP, and send-fax would be nice.  I wanted the
megahertz because of the small size and AA batteries.
--
jew@sunquest.com

What if everything is an illusion and nothing exists?  In that case, I
definitely overpaid for my carpet.
		-- Woody Allen, "Without Feathers"
From: edp@math.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Philosophical discussion of .ABK
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:08:02 GMT
Reply-To: edp@math.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <1992Mar19.174210.18098@eff.org>, peterco@eff.org (Peter A.
Cohen) writes:

>I'm just trying to gauge opinion...are HP 95LX users partial to the
>appointment book program?  Do (would) they find export from calendar
>software the the 95LX useful?  Do you think it's a good idea for a
>program exporting data to a 95LX-ready file to automatically append an
>.ABK extension to the filename?

I had a Casio BOSS and I have used the Calendar application in
DECwindows.  Now DECwindows is the best version in terms of features
(but it has a nasty bug), but it is not portable.  I tried using the
Casio BOSS, but it just wasn't useful, especially because of its lack of
repeating alarms.  The 95 is useful; I am using it regularly.  I got rid
of the Boss and have mostly stopped using the Calendar application.

Since the 95 is portable, I always have it with me, whether at work or
home, so there's not much point in exporting information.  Also,
exporting an appointment wholesale is a mistake:  The host and the
server information must be MERGED.  That's critical; the user should
have the flexibility to enter appointments, make edits, and check off
done items on either the 95 or the Macintosh/PC/workstation and not have
to worry about which version is up to date.  I know, there's all sorts
of issues here.  If there are conflicting appointments in the two
versions, issue a warning.  If an appointment has been edited on both
the 95 and the workstation, then what?

As for naming the file, that's a trivial issue.  It is an appointment
book, so it should have that extension.  Just make sure you don't tromp
on a user's file with the same name.


                                -- edp (Eric Postpischil)
                                "Always mount a scratch monkey."
                                edp@alien.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops

>> ylisp : I get an error for DEFVAR (error: unbound function - DEFVAR).
>> This happens when I load object.lsp then graphics.lsp

In the initial posting of the ylisp95.zip there was ONE FILE missing
(ylisp.lsp). ylisp.lsp contains some LISP language extensions (like defvar).

I've sent an update of ylisp95.zip to Thierry, but I don't know if it ever
got installed since the ftp archive moved.

Since this file is the only update to ylisp95.zip you can also get it from a
response to my original posting.

In case you want to try ylisp again, make sure ylisp.lsp is loaded (just
put it into the directory where you installed ylisp.exe).

Regards, Peter

PS: Be also aware of some undocumented order dependencies; When you want
    to use graphics.lsp, you have to load object.lsp and vector.lsp first:x

From: everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Everett Kaser)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 15:23:59 GMT
Subject: Re: Jagmenu and 1MB LX
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops

vcmgt0j7@VAX.CSUN.EDU (Mingfang Li) writes...
>I used Jagmenu version 1.0 by Mark Scardina without any problem on my HP95LX 
>with 512K of memory.  After I upgraded to the 1MB version however, I no longer 
>could use it on the 1MB version.  When I press the hot key, I would get one 
>long beep and two short beeps.  Nothing would happen.  Wonder if netters out 
>there might have any suggestions.  Thanks in advance.

Jagmenu, along with a number of other programs written by Mark and a number
of other people who have posted them to Compuserve, was written (in part) using
a tool that comes with UTIL Forth for the HP 95LX.  This tool would take just
about any program and make it hot-key-able (they actually claimed "SysMgr
compliant", but that's not true:  you can assign the program to a hotkey, and
fire it up without closing other apps, but you cannot then switch to any other
SysMgr apps without first exiting your "hotkey" program).

There was a problem, however, with the UTIL program in that it only allocated a
stack of 16 bytes.  This, obviously, is WAY too little.  Most of these programs
never did work in the Connectivity Pack, but they never bothered to find out
why.  Then when the 1M unit came out, the new ROMs and the change in RAM size
was enough to change things so they no longer worked in the HP 95LX itself
(it's a miracle that they ever worked at all without trashing the machine).

Anyway, the short of the long is this:  the UTIL Forth folks have fixed their
utility so that it now generates a larger stack, and new versions of many of
these programs have been uploaded to Compuserve.  So, what you need is a new
version of Jagmenu.

** Everett Kaser                   Hewlett-Packard Company
** ...hplabs!hp-pcd!everett        work: (503) 750-3569   Corvallis, Oregon
** everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com        "Today is a good day for change."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: Peter A. Cohen <peterco@eff.org>
Subject: Philosophical discussion of .ABK
Organization: ON Technology, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 17:42:10 GMT

I'm just trying to gauge opinion...are HP 95LX users partial to the
appointment book program?  Do (would) they find export from calendar
software the the 95LX useful?  Do you think it's a good idea for a
program exporting data to a 95LX-ready file to automatically append an
.ABK extension to the filename?



- Peter
From: edp@math.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: HP-95 -- Derive, .PCX files, backups
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:48:55 GMT
Reply-To: edp@math.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

I'm still looking for .PCX files to use as my HP-95's picture file. 
Does anybody have them, or can you give me pointers to information about
the .PCX format?

Does anybody else have Derive for the HP-95?  I was concerned that the
I/O port would draw lots of power while Derive were active, so I wrote a
short script to deal with that.  The following file will work in two
ways.  When you reboot, the AUTOEXEC.BAT on the Derive ROM card runs,
prompting you for an option.  If you select 1 (Derive), the .BAT file
executes the command DERIVE.  If you have the following lines in
C:\DERIVE.BAT, they are executed instead of the Derive program.  They
turn off the I/O port, set the current directory to something more
useful, and invoke Derive.  After Derive terminates, it executes RAMCRAM
B, which I am guessing restores memory to what it was before
AUTOEXEC.BAT changed it, possibly rebooting if necessary, and then
executes $SYSMGR.  That changes the behavior; AUTOEXEC.BAT would
normally take you back to the menu; my script goes right to the HP-95
System Manager instead.

Note that even with the directory changed, DERIVE hunts for files in A:\
if it cannot find them in the current directory, so the supplied .MTH
and .DMO files can be easily loaded even while the default for saving
new files in C:\DERIVE (or whatever directory you specify).  Here's the
DERIVE.BAT file:

	serctl/o
	cd c:\derive
	a:derive
	ramcram b
	$sysmgr

The second way this file can be used is by running it from the Filer. 
It will then invoke Derive and return to the Filer.  I defined a
char-function key to do that.  (Use
"{FILER}{F5}c:\derive.bat{ENTER}{ESC}{F4}MENUq".)  There's less memory
free for Derive when invoked this way, but still plenty (in the
one-megabyte HP-95) for it to work.

Also, I have shell scripts and .BAT files to automate incremental
backups, which I expanded from scripts previously supplied by another
poster.  I think mine will work with more generic versions of awk, and
they detect and correct for the appearance of new directories on the
HP-95.  If anybody is interested in them and somebody can tell me how to
prepare a "shell archive", I'll post the new files.


                                -- edp (Eric Postpischil)
                                "Always mount a scratch monkey."
                                edp@alien.enet.dec.com
From: edp@math.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: HP-95 password /automatic
Date: 10 Apr 92 13:05:26 GMT
Reply-To: edp@math.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

I set PASSWORD /A on my HP-95, causing a password prompt every time it
is turned on.  This usually works fine, but on occasion the HP-95 does
not respond to entry of password.  So far, this has happened just twice,
each time the first time the 95 was turned on in the morning.  When the
On key is pressed, the password screen comes on, but then there is no
response from the 95 to any key for some time -- maybe 20 seconds, I'm
not sure.  Typing a password and pressing Enter yields nothing, not a
beep nor a shut-off.  The 95 also does not respond to On or Shift-On. 
After a bit of playing, the 95 goes off, and then it acts normally when
it is turned on again (it accepts the password).

Does anybody know what's going on?

(BTW, a friend responded to my previous posting by bringing me a book
containing a .PCX specification, and I wrote an ASCII-character to .PCX
conversion program and have converted 37 GIFs to .PCX files.  I expect
to upload them to eddie.mit.edu soon.)


                                -- edp (Eric Postpischil)
                                "Always mount a scratch monkey."
                                edp@alien.enet.dec.com
From: everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Everett Kaser)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 00:24:21 GMT
Subject: Re: HP-95 password /automatic
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops

edp@MATH.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil) writes...
>No, it has only happened with the AC adapter not in.  I use the adapter
>at the office during the day; it is never connected in the morning at
>home (yet).

>Yes, it was always turned off with the On key.

etc, etc...

Thanks for the answers.  Again, this doesn't sound like a common problem (I
haven't heard of it before), so it's likely to be something peculiar about
your setup (or no one else is using the password feature :-).  Do you have
a CONFIG.SYS?  An AUTOEXEC.BAT?  APNAME.LST?  What's in them?  Do you use
any file compressors such as DIET or STACKER?

The 'lead-time' alarm problem you described doesn't ring any particular bells
for me either.  Something smells fishy on the dock.

** Everett Kaser                   Hewlett-Packard Company
** ...hplabs!hp-pcd!everett        work: (503) 750-3569   Corvallis, Oregon
** everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com        "Today is a good day for change."
From: cloos@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (James H. Cloos Jr.)
Subject: Re: HP-95 password /automatic
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies, Ithaca, NY 14853
	<1992Apr15.181409.5602@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>
	<1992Apr16.124851.5954@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 03:56:50 GMT

Guess what?  This may not be limited to automoatic passwords!

I just turned my 95 on, the first time since ~ 92.04.15 02:00.  It is
now 92.04.16 22:33.  I had turned the 95 off with ALT-ON.  I typed my
passwd in a the prompt and get the error beep; the 95 turned itself
back off.  I tried again right away and got back to my topcard.  (My
passwd is 8 characters long, and I did type it in correctly.)

I do not have any cards for the 95.

My apname.lst:

	c:\_sys\HB.exm,2300,Hearts&Bones
	c:\_sys\TFOX.exm,2100,TigerFox
	c:\bin\CMCALC.exm,C300,CompMathcalc
	c:\bin\WEEKABK.exm,B300,WeekAptBk
	c:\bin\DIALTONE.exm,B700,Dialtone
	c:\bin\boxes.exm,3000,boxes
	c:\bin\smhello.exm,2600,smhello.exm
	c:\bin\what.exm,1100,what

(Just realized that I hadn't yet gotten around to deleting smhello...)

My config.sys:

	#DEVICE=WINK.SYS 0
	BUFFERS=1
	FILES=12
	FCBS=2
	COUNTRY=049
	SHELL=COMMAND /P

(WINK.SYS is commented out, and one of the others gives invalid
command but works.)

My autoexec.bat:

	ECHO OFF
	PROMPT $D $T$H$H$H$H$_$P$G
	PATH=C:\_SYS;C:\BIN;C:;
	rem C:\BIN\DIET -Z -TC:\TMP >NUL
	C:\BIN\DIET -Z -TC:\TMP >NUL
	:PROMPT
	ECHO Hit D for DOS or R for SYSMGR
	C:\BIN\95 KEYWAIT
	IF NOT ERRORLEVEL 68 GOTO PROMPT
	IF NOT ERRORLEVEL 69 GOTO DOS
	IF NOT ERRORLEVEL 82 GOTO PROMPT
	IF     ERRORLEVEL 83 GOTO PROMPT
	:SYSMGR
	C:\BIN\ECHOSYS ^Y.^M.^D ^h:^m:^s Boot ROM^x0d^x0a>> C:\_DAT\BOOT.LOG
	$SYSMGR
	:DOS
	C:\BIN\ECHOSYS ^Y.^M.^D ^h:^m:^s Boot DOS^x0d^x0a>> C:\_DAT\BOOT.LOG
	SERCTL /O
	C:\_SYS\SERINT /D
	C:\BIN\CHSWTCH -

(Perhaps I should explain what some of those are:
+	I USED to need 2 calls to DIET to get it to work, no longer but I've
	not deled that line yet.
+	95.COM is from Richard Harvey's 95 Utility Pack (EduCALC #2467)
	(WINK.SYS is also from that.) and with the KEYWAIT arg waits for
	a keypress and returns the ASCII code of the key pressed as its
	errorlevel.
+	ECHOSYS I got from simtel20; the output of those lines looks like:

92.04.12 19:09:42 Boot ROM

	(Which is the most recent entry in my boot.log).
+	CHSWTCH.COM sets the switch char to the first [^ \t] on its 
	command line.  Note that it was not reached in this case.

I guess that is all to explain.)

Oh, I should note that I still have a 512K version, 1.01 A, revision 6/5/91.

This was the first time that I noticed that I couldn't get past the
passwd prompt the first time; it is also the first time it was
password locked w/o any applications running thru a midnight.

-JimC
--
James H. Cloos, Jr.		include <std/disclaimers.h>
Cloos@CrnlThry.BITNET           include <std/qotd>
Cloos@Theory.TC.Cornell.EDU	Phone:  +1 716 866-5249
cloos@batcomputer.UUCP		PersonalZipCode:  Amherst, NY  14226-1111
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: dcm@csn.org (David C. Menges)
Subject: Re: Macintosh interface for HP95LX
Keywords: macintosh
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 04:07:21 GMT

In article <ku1991INNdu5@news.bbn.com> jjd@BBN.COM (James J Dempsey) writes:
>
>I'm wondering if there is any commercial or PD
>software exists which runs on the Macintosh specifically to manage the
>HP95LX.  

Since TouchBASE already downloads to Sharps, I asked the developers about
the HP, but they don't seem clued in.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: cgordon@vpnet.chi.il.us (gordon hlavenka)
Subject: HP95LX <-> netmail demo at Comdex
Organization: Vpnet Public Access
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 03:33:16 GMT


I just received an email I sent to myself from the HP booth at Comdex.
They have a 95LX there, with a "Mobidem" wireless packet modem.  It's
live, and gatewayed into netmail.  The whole thing is packed in a
"Daytimer(TM)" case.  Very impressive.

For simplex comms (at less cost) they also have an alphanumeric pager
connected to another 95LX.  In another "Daytimer(TM)" case.

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------
Gordon S. Hlavenka            cgordon@vpnet.chi.il.us
 Official Supporter of the Barry/Walsh ticket in '92
From: edp@MATH.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Help! 95 <---> communication. How?
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:15:47 GMT
Reply-To: edp@MATH.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Distribution: na
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <BMp17G.FD2@world.std.com>, leschack@world.std.com (Richard
LeSchack) writes:

>     I've tried exchanging text between HP48SX and HP95LX
>via IR with no success. Would somebody who knows how to
>do this please email me a few clues. Thanks.

It works for me.  Make sure both Kermits are in text mode, as opposed to
binary.  If transferring from the 95 to the 48, make sure the text being
sent begins with a quotation mark -- you have to send objects in a
format the 48 recognizes, much as if you had typed them in.  (An
exception is that character translations beginning with "\" will be
recognized.)

If this does not help, tell us what you are trying (give us an example
file, tell us which direction you are attempting to transfer in, what
you type on each machine, et cetera) and what results you get (is
anything transferred, what error messages do you get, et cetera).


                                -- edp (Eric Postpischil)
                                "Always mount a scratch monkey."
                                edp@alien.enet.dec.com
From: bull@noao.edu (Frank Bull  CCS)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: 95LX COMM program
Keywords: default drive
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:57:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson, AZ, USA

Is there any way of changing the default drive from c: to a: in the built-in
comm program? Space is limited on my c: drive and kermit transfers have a 
tendency to fail when c: runs out of space.
-- 
Frank Bull     (602) 325-9208           |{arizona,decvax,ncar}!noao!bull
Central Computer Services               |uunet!noao.edu!bull
National Optical Astronomy Observatories|Internet: bull@noao.edu
PO Box 26732                            |SPAN/HEPNET: NOAO::BULL
From: usenet@crd.ge.com (Required for NNTP)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Nasty nasty HP95LX bug
Date: 11 Apr 92 11:21:52 GMT
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

In article <41730083@hpfcbig.SDE.HP.COM> lisa@hpfcbig.SDE.HP.COM (Lisa Stroyan) writes:
.......
>But what happened to your backups???  All computers should be backed
>up, but especially the 95LX!  Personally, I don't *wan't* backup files
>lying around on the 95.  Disk space is too precious; that would be
>about another 10-15K, doing nothing.  I back it up myself every
>morning anyway, so what would be the point?

I backup my 95LX evey night also, the "point" here is that even with daily
backups, the "erase first and make no backup" technique that HP/Lotus have
chosen for all the built-in apps (except 1-2-3!) insures that you will lose
any new stuff added during the day if the batteries do down during a file
save. (Since Appointment book file saves are very disk intensive, and since
disk read/write is a high power consumption activity, the battery is most
likely to fail during a file save of the Appointment book.)  Therefore , I
still want the Appointment book to give me the option of making an an
automatic backup file (as is done in 1-2-3) or _at least_  the option of not
erasing the old file until it has successfully written the new one. I have
purchased extra memory so I have space for these additional files. The design
of the software should have been done with this situation in mind. (Since
we Lotus wrote the software, or so we are told, and they provided an optional
file backup on 1-2-3, why not the other Apps?)

Vic Roberts
GE Research and Development Center, Schenectady, NY
roberts@crd.ge.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: dmk@air31.larc.nasa.gov
Subject: Need help finding POQET RAM cards
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:42:52 GMT

Hi netters,
   Recently I purchased a POQET palmtop with a 64K free RAM card. I
_need_ more storage space. Can anyone give me information on a good
source for these cards? Can I use HP cards? (The connectors on the
end look identical) And can I use a card larger than 512K?
   Any support would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Daniel Koppen
dmk@air31.larc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops