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From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Newsgroups: soc.men,soc.women,soc.couples
Subject: Re: INTERFAITH MARRIAGES
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:47:07 GMT
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper

<IK20050@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:

] Hi!
] I wanted to ask a question of all you netters out there.
] DO interfaith marriages usually work? 

Yes they can.

] What if
] your spouse "bashes" your religion and won't allow you to attend
] the church of your choice, because she or he believes that only
] their church is right (religious bigotism)...What do you do then?

consider which of the two is More Important to you:

1. the marriage

2. Your Personal Self worth as a Human Being.
{ I am predicating my argument upon the assumption that you
hold your beliefs for personal reasons and not because it is
some abstract sort Gee Golly Wow I was Bored On Sunday thing.}

"should I stay or Should I go NOW!"
	the clash

] How do you get the other person to respect your faith and to love
] you for what you are, regardless of religion?

This is Always Hard, especially when one is a TrueBeliever
of the OneTrueFaith....

It could be possible that there is a way you can talk with
hir minister and see if there is some ground for compromise.

It is Possible that your 'denomination' is Listed as one of
the Few Clearly Established Groups that Are KNOW to be
under the control of SATAN, and are a first sign of the
arrival of the AntiChrist. Which of course suggests that
you will Need to be Saved, or Have the Demon Cast out of you....

On the Otherhand, it could just be professional rivalry....

some of My best Friends are JarHeads.... But...
<snappy inter_service_rivalry_comment_here>

] i need help on this urgently!!!  Thanks......me.

Yes! that is self evident.

ciao
drieux



-- 
Modern Day Problems:
In any case, don't give up, just type slower :-).
Chimo
Bob.
Newsgroups: soc.men,soc.women,misc.kids
From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Subject: Re: Mattel on women
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:20:42 GMT
Keywords: Targetting females once again.

In article <mljp9=#@lynx.unm.edu> bhjelle@carina.unm.edu () writes:
>In article <1992Oct9.133325.6516@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>>>
>>>Math is interesting!
>>Why should she lie?  Math is boring and absurd.  :-)  At least
>>I though so, and I've done fairly well in life without it thank you.
>Uh-oh, another "people person", eh? 

I'm a senior technical writer and yes, I like people.  Problem?

>I guess we could all be salepeople, or maybe lawyers. Yeah,
>that's it. We can run our economy by just suing each other
>and maybe selling each other Big Macs.

I take it you're kidding here.
>
>I've got news for you. The world needs people who are good
>at math, and has an abundance of people who can't do it.

Can't do it and don't like it are NOT the same.  Yes I know that
our progression as humans on this planet has a lot to do with the
use of math.  That stuff wasn't done by me, though.  I'm more on the
artistic side, which also contributes to humanity.  It takes ALL
kinds, doesn't it?

>A girl (or boy) would do well to consider math-intensive careers,
>and most will not benefit from additional encouragement to
>avoid math.

How about encouraging children to aspire as they are inclined?  If
your child enjoys music, should they be urged into math?  If your child
enjoys art, should they be encouraged into math?  What about sports,
language, geology, etc?  Of course math is important because just about
any profession requires that people do more than just add two and
two.  But we don't need to perform integral calculus to balance our
checkbooks or figure wind velocity or transpose music to another key
do we?
>
>Congratulations on your success in your math-avoiding career.
>Just don't come near my daughter with your career advice, please.

My career advice, as I said above, is to urge children and adolescents
in the direction to which they feel inclined.  What's yours, pray tell?

-Nance
-- 
Nance Colucci  *^*^*^*^*^*    o__    *^*^*^*^*  |  Work that body!
att!ihlpk!colucci            _.>/               | Stay fit for life.
                            (_) \(_)
From: kamchar@ibm.cl.msu.edu (SunCat)
Newsgroups: soc.men
Subject: Re: vampire
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:01:32 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

In article <15OCT199200255527@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu>  
ballms@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (BALLMS) writes:
[..]
Seems to work well as a metaphor.  

> Rev. Ganglia.
> I do hope this has offended someone, or made someone feel
> they already know everything or made someone feel I am a complete nut.

I think you will get your wish :-)

=========SunCat++++     | kamchar@ibm.cl.msu.edu
"The Earth is but a small part of the world, and the rest of the
 world will be important to our future.  In terms of energy, materials,
 and room for growth, space is almost everything.  In the past,
 successes in space have regularly fulfilled engineering projections, in
 the future, an open space frontier will widen the human world"
 --K. Eric Drexler _Engines of Creation_  p83
Newsgroups: soc.men
Subject: Re: The Women Who Served
From: rivero@mdcbbs.com (Michael Rivero)
Date: 8 Oct 92 10:12:42 PDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: M&E (Division of EDS), Cypress CA

In article <BvrGIB.37o@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, jewell@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Larry Jewell) writes:
|>  The names of eight women, all military nurses, are on the Vietnam Veterans
|> Memorial.
|> 

  How many men's names are on the Memorial?  






<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
|  Michael Rivero rivero@mdcbbs.com  "Middle-aged Mutant Ninja Animator" |
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|  "The great masses of people. . .will more easily fall                 |
|  victims to a big lie than to a small one."                            |
|                                          --Adolph Hitler               |
|                                                                        |
|   "All men are potential rapists, and that's _all_ they are!"          |
|                                 -- Susan Brownmiller                   |
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Newsgroups: soc.men,soc.women,soc.singles
From: rlister@cti.com (Russell Lister)
Subject: Re: Book Rec.: _Bodies: Overcoming the Tyranny of Perfection_
Organization: Comprehensive Technologies Int., Inc.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:19:59 GMT

kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:

>jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond) writes:

>>I always believed that a good breakfast must contain the four food groups: 

>>	Caffiene
>>	Salt/Preservatives
>>	Fat
>>	Sugar
>>	Carbohydrates

>And with a diet like this it's no wonder you can't count.

>The four food groups are actually Pizza, Chocolate, Ice Cream, & Barbecue.

  OK, I'll buy the chocolate ice cream pizza (even if it would make a mess
in the oven), but I draw the line at putting barbecue on my chocolate!


-- 
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From: pepke@ds1.scri.fsu.edu (Eric Pepke)
Newsgroups: soc.men
Subject: Re: CONDOMS! and AIDS
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:45:27 GMT
Reply-To: pepke@ds1.scri.fsu.edu (Eric Pepke)
Organization: Florida State University, but I don't speak for them

In article <1992Oct15.231834.5885@fid.morgan.com> sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:
>Kimonos have a much longer half-life.

I have heard that claim before.  I have not seen them offered for sale, so I
have not had a chance to test them.

>>I view this test, as well as air- or water-inflation tests, as inadequate.
>
>No kidding.  I'm not so sure about the water-inflation test, though:
>they don't check for leakage, but rather (using salt water) for
>conductivity.

I'll remember that the next time I feel inclined to connect a sign transformer
to my genitalia.

But seriously, these tests are silly.  The problem is not leakage, but outright
breakage.

-EMP
Newsgroups: soc.men,soc.women,sci.math,misc.kids
From: salomon@seas.gwu.edu (A. Lee Salomon)
Subject: Re: Mattel on women
Keywords: Targetting females once again.
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 03:09:03 GMT

>Now, of Barbie's total repertoire of 200 phrases, we should be
>careful to keep the number of math remarks down to about 1 or 2.
>The last thing we want to do is turn Barbie into a nerd!
>
>In Barbie Land, math class is just another event to get dressed up 
>for, after all.
>
Well, I don't take the issue lightly.  I am female, have loved math since
I was 4, and like to "dress up."  As a result, on numerous occasions I
have to deal with students (which is OK, since they have the excuse of
youth) and professors (which is upsetting, since they educate the youth)
who assume I must be in the wrong class.  Barbie is a nerd when she talks
about math.  In order to remain attractive, she expresses her distress when
faced with the masculine subject.  And if you don't think this is true,
why is it that men who come over to flirt with me will run away when I
tell them what I study?  Imagine what the NAACP would have  done had an 
Afro-American Ken said, "Gee, math is tough!"  I don't think the doll would
have lasted a week....

-- 
| Machines take me by surprise with   |     A. Lee Salomon             |
| great frequency.    - Alan Turing   |     salomon@seas.gwu.edu       |

Newsgroups: soc.men,soc.women
From: farthing@leland.Stanford.EDU (ljf)
Subject: Re: Re :Female "Wiring"
Followup-To: soc.women
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 22:11:46 GMT

In article <22825@galaxy.ucr.edu> starbuck@ucrmath.ucr.edu (starbuck) writes:
>Maybe some lesbian feminists are friendly to men but most are hostile.  And
>I don't blame them "from their perspective".  Their anger can be understood,
>they are rejected by most people and if their sexual orientation is know will
>be held against them.  

*yawn*  Sorry, starbuck, but you'll have to do better than this.  We've
all heard the old saw, "Gay men hate/fear women and lesbian women
hate/fear men."  It doesn't say much for your theory of anti-feminism
that you're using global generalizations like this.

Newsgroups: soc.men
From: bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris)
Subject: Re: Book Rec.: _Bodies: Overcoming the Tyranny of Perfection_
Organization: Motorola, CCR&D, CORP, Schaumburg, IL
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:58:49 GMT

In article <92013@netnews.upenn.edu> crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) writes:
)In article <BRUCE.92Oct6180738@suprenum.uxb.liv.ac.uk> bruce@uxb.liv.ac.uk (Bruce Stephens) writes:
)>
)>> The four food groups are actually Pizza, Chocolate, Ice Cream, & Barbecue.
)>
)>WHAT?  No garlic?  Or is that included with chocolate?
)
)
)You've just hit on the all-time worst food combination after grapefruit
)and toothpaste.

Anybody for peanut butter and lobster?  Never had the guts to try it, but
I often joked about 'Resees peanut-lobster cups' with a friend --- "You
got peanut butter on MY lobster......."

Xref: sparky soc.men:17826 soc.women:17820
From: kingston@verbis.waisman.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.men,soc.women
Subject: RE: CONDOMS! and AIDS
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:31:58 GMT
Organization: Waisman Center, University of Wisconsin-Madison

Well, Kelvin, wake up and smell the coffee.  Don't you watch T.V?  There are
hundreds of women out there who have contracted HIV from *ONE* unprotected
sexual counter.. No matter what the percentages are, do you want to take
the risk?????
From: erik@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Erik Lode)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:09:16 GMT
Subject: Re: We, The Persons
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: soc.men

larry@ducktales.med.ge.com (Larry Landwehr) writes:

> Such words and phrases as ... "Negro", ...
> no longer used in public speech.  These words are "sexist",
> "intolerant", "bigoted", "racist", "biased" and they show "cultural
> insensitivity" to boot.  Now we are forced to use the words
> ... "african-american", ...


  This may be the wrong place to ask, but I have been wondering something
for a while.  If a "black" person is now "African-American," what is
the "politically correct" phrase for a "black" person who lives in Europe?
"African-European?"  "African-French" (if in France)?

  This is an honest question, although somehow I feel racist even asking
it.  I guess I've been well trained the past few years.
Xref: sparky soc.men:17439 soc.women:17462 alt.feminism:2186
From: revpk@cellar.org (Brian 'Rev P-K' Siano)
Newsgroups: soc.men,soc.women,alt.feminism
Subject: Re: Re :Female "Wiring"
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:39:24 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

sheaffer@netcom.com (Robert Sheaffer) writes:

> In article <1992Oct5.060921.15054@s1.gov> lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) write
> 
> >	And you deleting of "soc.women" from the subject line, Robert
> >Sheaffer, suggests something suspicious about you and the female sex.
> >
> 
> I wasn't going to reply to this until I saw the above paranoia. I didn't
> delete ANYTHING from any "subject" line (you're starting to sound like
> Brian Siano here). Feel free to post this stuff to "alt.lesbian.leather"
> for all I care. Hell, I *add* newsgroups to the stuff I write, not delete
> them (at least until people start complaining).
> 
        Minor clarification here: in a long-ago argument, I'd noticed that 
Robert had begun cross-posting our debates to soc.men, but _not_ to 
soc.women. It looked to me that he was doing this to attract a sort of 
dogpile-on-the-feminists crowd at the time. 
> I did enjoy your comments about Susie Bright's Joy of Fistfucking; I wasn't
> aware that stretching the vagina for childbirth was generally considered
> a pleasurable experience. Most women tend to say it hurts like hell.
> But then Camille Paglia keeps reminding us that in the pursuit of "pleasure",
> "pain" is susally not far off. See, maybe Bright and Paglia can agree on
> something? :)
       It seems a bit silly to point this out, but I might as well-- yes, 
many women find childbirth painful, perhaps some experience orgasm during it, 
and a hand or a fist being inserted is a very different sensation than having 
one's guts pushing a watermelon-sized load out of one's abdomen. I'd caution 
anyone reading this from any sweeping pronouncements on pain and pleasure.
> 
> Maybe she should try gerbils?   :)
> 
> (BTW, where is the Bright/Paglia exchange published?)
> 
> 
> -- 
        Not the gerbil joks _again_... (I'm assuming Robert knows it's bogus; 
tho sometimes, smileys notwithstanding, it's hard to tell what myths Robert 
believes in.)

        The Paglia/Bright exchange was published-- as I'd once posted some 
time back-- in _Outlook_ magazine within the past year. (BTW, Bright has an 
hilariously pornographic account of screwing Dan Quayle in the latest issue 
of Paul Krassner's _The Realist_.

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Joel:  "Why is my life messed up? Page 74."
Servo: "When will this movie end? Page 155."
Crow:  "How much money can we get out of Tom Cruise? Page 85."

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                                       during a volcano scene in
From: kolassa@bio1.bst.rochester.edu (John Kolassa)
Newsgroups: soc.men
Subject: Re: GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH & DEADBEAT DADS!!!!!!
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:45:59 GMT
Reply-To: kolassa@bio1.bst.rochester.edu (John Kolassa)
Organization: University of Rochester, Rochester NY

In article <7536@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood) writes:
[In response to a post by Hillel]
> 
> Hey Hillel!  Don't vote for GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH either!  Did you hear
> his "crack" about DEAD BEAT DADS during the Presidential debates?
> 
> I immediately thought of you when I heard it!  I thought, "Well I guess
> that Hillel will have to vote for PEROT!".
> 
> You just can trust them sneaky conservatives!
> 
> It's open season on DEAD BEAT DADS!
> 
> Terry "What about the MARROU/LORD ticket?  Why aren't they in the debates?" Wood
> -- 
>       

I guess I'm eating my words of a few weeks ago.
-- 
Thanks, John Kolassa, kolassa@bio1.bst.rochester.edu
From: ballms@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (BALLMS)
Newsgroups: soc.men
Subject: Re: vampire
Summary: vamp
Keywords: vampire
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:50:00 GMT
Organization: Vanderbilt University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


In article <1992Oct15.180132.10630@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, kamchar@ibm.cl.msu.edu (SunCat) writes...
>In article <15OCT199200255527@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu>  
>ballms@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (BALLMS) writes:
>[..]
>Seems to work well as a metaphor.  
> 
>> Rev. Ganglia.
>> I do hope this has offended someone, or made someone feel
>> they already know everything or made someone feel I am a complete nut.
> 
>I think you will get your wish :-)

why thank you!! you know metaphorical humor is needed in serious
matters, AND Ive noticed , whenever I post part of that
pamphlet '7 ways how vampires gain your confidence', penned
by me, it only lasts about one to two days, then gets deleted
from the directory. They wont even allow it on talk.bizarre.
Either its a sore spot, or its a sore spot.
Rev. Ganglia.
---
Xref: sparky soc.men:17736 soc.women:17730 sci.physics:16524 sci.math:13210
From: maslak@unix.SRI.COM (Valerie Maslak)
Newsgroups: soc.men,soc.women,sci.physics,sci.math
Subject: Re: Mattel on women
Keywords: Targetting females once again.
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:10:56 GMT
Followup-To: soc.men
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, California

In article <1992Oct9.190351.22021@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris) writes:

I had said:

>)Are you serious? It's just as easy to think of good things for her
>)to say as negative things. Surely she could say "I got an A on my math test"
>)or "Geometry is fun, like a puzzle game" 
>)or " My math teacher says I'm the best student in her class."

>Most people (regardless of gender) don't seem to think math is fun -
>unfortunately  (IMO).

 I guess that makes me a real wierdo, but I LOVED geometry class.
The idea that you could start out with a few basic assumptions
and prove all sorts of amazing things with them was a real blast for
me. I LOVED it. You know this, and because this is true, then you
can prove that, and if you can prove that, then you can also prove
this and this....

Yep, I thought geometry was fun. 

Valerie Maslak

Xref: sparky soc.men:17783 soc.women:17778 sci.physics:16610 sci.math:13281
From: crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass)
Newsgroups: soc.men,soc.women,sci.physics,sci.math
Subject: Re: Barbie is Right! (was: Mattel on women)
Keywords: Targetting females once again??????
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:15:31 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1992Oct15.224351.2471@nevada.edu> crail@nevada.edu (DONNA CRAIL-RUGOTZKE) writes:

>The other problem is that this toy is directed toward girls. Products
>aimed at boys do not have messages like this.  I have heard parents
>complaining about not finding "positive" role models for their female
>children.  One of my history professors said that she changed the 
>gender of the characters in her kid's books just to provide
>a female role model.  

     Gee, is it just me?  Why, pray tell, is the mother not a good
     'role model'?  Why does she feel inadequate to the task?

>Considering the recent concern over American children's math scores (as
>compared with the Japanese), I surprised Mattel would try to market
>this doll.  I am also surprised that some politican is not using
>Barbie to show how this country is going to "hell-in-a-hand-bag,"
>since this is the year for bashing the media.

     What about the recent lack of furor that we scored well above the 
     Japanese in reading and verbal skills on a recent battery of
     test administered to elementary and middle school children? 

     Negative results and whining about them seem to be much more popular.

                            dale bass
-- 
C. R. Bass                                           crb7q@virginia.edu
Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
University of Virginia
Charlottesville, Virginia                            (804) 924-7926
Xref: sparky soc.men:17481 soc.women:17490
From: jrmo@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (joseph.r.moore)
Newsgroups: soc.men,soc.women
Subject: Re: CONDOMS! and AIDS
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:08:36 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T


I was at the doctor last night.  He gave an obligatory word of caution
about AIDS.  He said the best way to avoid AIDS is KYPIYP.   Then he
gave me a flu shot and told me how flu killed more people at the time
of WW1 than the war.  And how the flu viruses change enough from year to 
year that  you need a new shot every year, and that AIDS is similar in
that it appears to be taking on different forms...he's a nice old doctor.

I asked  what KYPIYP meant, he said Keep Your Pecker In Your Pants.

Joe Moore
Xref: sparky soc.men:17516 soc.women:17522 alt.feminism:2287
From: starbuck@ucrmath.ucr.edu (starbuck)
Newsgroups: soc.men,soc.women,alt.feminism
Subject: Re: Re :Female "Wiring"
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:59:52 GMT
Followup-To: soc.men
Organization: University of California, Riverside

In article <1992Oct5.060921.15054@s1.gov> lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes:
>In article <1992Oct3.190515.29266@netcom.com> sheaffer@netcom.com (Robert Sheaffer) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct2.230923.13065@s1.gov> lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes:
>>   (Sheaffer, quoting de Beauvoir:)

>>But actually, the smiley wasn't needed: check out some of the feminist
>>manifestos in "Sisterhood is Powerful", which are at least as bad.

>	Sheesh. You have a _very_ thin skin on this subject. I am told
>that you had a personal crisis involving the opposite sex. Why don't
>you try probing it to see if it has affected your opinions.

Ah, is this not the motivation behind a lot of feminist writing and theory.
If feminism promoted women I would be counted as one.  But the bulk of
feminist theory defines women as the victims of men.  It is one of the
reasons I have stated before that feminist theory is faulty.  For one
thing anyone can write it for any motivation.

>	She also claims that the most violent anti-male rhetoric comes
>from heterosexual women, especially those in more-or-less
>traditionalist roles. A lot of the stronger feminist rhetoric may come
>out of that; she seems to be friendly toward the male sex (a of
>lesbians seem to be like that).

Do you think that being a lesbian dosn't effect the theories and opinions
of many feminist writers?  Is how a lesbian women views being a women
much different than how a hetrosexual women sees herself?  Is how lesbian
women would view realtionships with men from a perspective different
than stright women?  Is lesbian feminist theory is universal, that is
the sexual orientation of the writer is irrevelent? 

I think it is ridiculous to think that sexual orientation has little to
do with how a person relates to the world.  I love it when feminist women
and especally lesbian women try to lay the hate, anger and fear of men
on the "traditional women", like she is a disease.  I think they do it
for fear that their own motivations will be uncoverd.

Maybe some lesbian feminists are friendly to men but most are hostile.  And
I don't blame them "from their perspective".  Their anger can be understood,
they are rejected by most people and if their sexual orientation is know will
be held against them.  But could this be the real reason for the hostile
attacts and theories of modern feminist writings.  Are gender issues geting 
confused with sexual orientation issues?  Is it really personal and
not have as much to do with women as it has to do with "taking men out", by
creating paranoia in women?  What is the influence of lesbian feminists on
modern feminist theory and how valid is it to all women?

starbuck