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From: news@netnews.upenn.edu (USENET News System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Special Court Propossed to Probe Marcos Wealth
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:39:10 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	MANILA, Philippines (UPI) -- The head of a government task force
proposed Wednesday a special court be set up to try cases of alleged
ill-gotten wealth involving ousted dictator Ferdinand Marcos and members
of his family.
	Magtanggol Gunigundo, chairman of the Presidential Commission on Good
Government, said Marcos' economic plunder should be considered a 
``heinous crime'' because it was a major cause of the country's massive
poverty.
	He said an anti-graft court, where cases against the Marcoses are
currently heard, was ``loaded'' with other cases and his commission
would formally propose Congress create a separate tribunal to try dozens
of criminal and civil charges against the Marcoses.
	``In certain situations economic plunder is worse than murder because
you deprive our people of the opportunity to actually earn a living and
to survive,'' Gunigundo told reporters. ``We are thinking here of lost
dreams and hopes in the last 20 years so we believe that the creation of
special courts will expedite and hasten the disposition of ill-gotten
wealth cases.''
	Marcos was chased to exile in a civilian-backed military revolt in
1986 after a 20-year rule that left the Philippines with a crushing
foreign debt, simmering insurgencies and widespread poverty. He died in
1989 in Honolulu, where his body is being stored in a refrigerated
crypt.
	His widow, Imelda, is facing some 80 criminal and civil suits in
Manila tied to her alleged role in the plunder of billions of dollars
from the national treasury.
	A court in Honolulu ruled last week that the estate of the deposed
ruler was liable for damage claims from systematic torture, summary
execution, rape and other atrocities during his rule.
	Separate trials will determine the amount to which each of some 10,
000 plaintiffs is entitled in damages.
	Government lawyers, including Gunigundo, however, said earlier this
week that the victims were not entitled to the billions of dollars
Marcos allegedly looted from the country.
	That money, they said, belonged to the government and was not
included in the Marcos estate, which they said comprised only the wealth
the family obtained legally.
	The anti-graft court, meanwhile, extended the period during which
Mrs. Marcos could bring home her husband's remains to Nov. 1 after an
earlier deadline expired Monday.
	The court had earlier granted the former first lady 20 days from
Sept. 8 within which to fly the remains for burial in the dictator's
northern home province of Ilocos Norte.
	President Fidel Ramos has banned the corpse from being brought to the
capital, fearing it could spark political unrest.
From: zax@kenpo.Corp.Sun.COM ( sonny dionida )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Enough Is Enough !!! WAS: Re: Little League:
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:08:49 GMT
Reply-To: zax@kenpo.Corp.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: kenpo.corp.sun.com


In article 25528@odin.corp.sgi.com, aimee@wpd.sgi.com (Aimee Manosa) writes:
|>In article <92267.131412U25720@uicvm.uic.edu>, Carlo A. Arcilla <U25720@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
|>
|>|> However, for those SCF'ers in the west coast, there may yet be another
|>|> 	****< stuff deleted> ***
|>|> -- anyway, I think it is something that scf people in the area can do.
|>
|>No, it's not something we can do.  C'mon, enough is enough.  This is water
|>under the bridge!  Let's just let this cool down with some dignity on our
|>side.
|>
|>-- 
|>        ~
|>Aimee Manosa		aimee@wpd.sgi.com		Opinions are mine.
|>			Silicon Graphics, Inc


I agree with Aimee, enough is enough...it's only a sport; you win some,
you lose some!  For the Philippine team, they lost because the Philippine
team organization cheated.

There's more other important things that Filipinos in this newsgroup can talk
about or do to help the country (RP).  Are you guys glued to the TV and radio,
waiting for the lastest *scoop* about the LLWS?  When the media flash the
news about the Mt. Pinatubo eruption, typhoon, mud slides, thousands of people
left homeless and casualties...YOU leave the room and go to the kitchen!!!!
These casualties are suffering the most than those of the Philippine LL players!

What about the achievements of President Ramos and Vice-President Estrada, their
fight against corrupt government officials and work toward the peaceful Philippines?

You guys are just after fame, but how can you achieve fame if you don't work
hard and help others who suffer...typical Filipinos!!! Mayayabang...Show-offs!!!

	"If the shoe fits, wear it!"



Flames are welcome, but will be IGNORED and DELETED!  ;-{)

---sonny

PS. Just FYI, for those who cares...i sent some used clothes to the country.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
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Subject: test
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:52:00 GMT
Organization: Bill & Dave's Garage

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From: grtorlba@sumax.seattleu.edu (George Torralba)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: World Series Smoking Gun?
Date: 27 Sep 92 04:45:58 GMT
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

In article <26SEP199213562446@sscvx1.ssc.gov> godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov
(LAURENCE GODFREY) writes: 
>
>Sure.  Every taxi driver, every person in the vicinity of Ermita, most
>lower priced stores, every time I bought cigarettes, every foreign exchange
>dealer except the banks, most small hotels, every policeman I.  Manila is
>without doubt the most threatening city I have ever visited, and the most
>unpleasant for tourists.  ALmost everyone wants your money (and I don't
>have much of it) and many give the impression that they would do anything
>to get it.  Unlike the rest of Asia, the Filipinos have lost sight of the
>idea that in order to get the tourists' money you've got to let them have
>a good time, they want the money and be damned with the good time.
>
>Laurence

Surely Metro Manila is not Philippines.  I'm not quite sure but I think 
Philippines is made up of ~7,000 islands, so...  Please reconsider your
statement.  

I'm not sure if you give a damn or not but if it was my first time here in
the US and I was brought to and stayed in the Bronx, would you let me get
away by saying that all Americans (assuming you are one) are like the
people in the Bronx (or some other miserable city in the US)? 

George

Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: tanchoco@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Joe Tanchoco)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Angeles City - Clark Air Base
Date: 3 Oct 92 05:20:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: noose.1992Oct3.052051.13454
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <Oct02.221524.69480@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> mk568652@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Mitchell Kotler) writes:
>Is there anybody out there who spent time at Clark recently.?  Any wild stories you want to tell me?
>Now that the base is closed , where will all the little "honeycoes" go?
>
   I am not familiar with the term.  What are honeycoes?
From: cmartine@usc.edu (Christopher V. Martinez)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Filipino Jazz
Date: 27 Sep 1992 15:14:18 -0700
Organization: University of Spoiled Children, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sal-sun17.usc.edu


   While I was in Manila in June, I met a singer named Joni Fernandez.  She
was currently working on an album with Richard Elliot.  They supposedly take
kundiman songs and set them to contemporary jazz riffs.  Sounded pretty good.
I'm not sure when the release was scheduled to be, but look for it.  She's
an up and coming singer.

Chris
From: news@netnews.upenn.edu (USENET News System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Student Charged in Hapala's Assasination
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:24:29 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	ZAMBOANGA, Philippines (UPI) -- Authorities have charged a Muslim
religious student with taking part in the recent assassination of a
Protestant radio broadcaster and two bystanders, police said Tuesday.
	Police Chief Vicente Dumpit alleged Abdi Basid Jikiri, 22, acted as a
lookout when two accomplices fatally shot Pastor Gregorio Hapalla and
two others Sept. 21 in the broadcast booth of Zamboanga's DXAS radio
station. The two triggermen remain at large.
	Tuesday, Dumpit said the attack appeared to have ``religious
undertones.''
	Hapalla's radio program tried to bring Christian teachings to
Muslims, and the cleric's family said he had received several warnings
to end his broadcasts or face death.
	Dumpit also said the shootings might be linked to other similar
incidents in Zamboanga, such as the slaying of Italian Catholic priest
in May, and a bloody August bombing of a Catholic shrine. Six people
died in the shrine attack, while 60 sustained injuries.
From: andym@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Andy Means)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:35:18 GMT
Subject: FILIPINO MAGAZINE?
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino

I'm looking for a Filipino magazine other than "Filipinas" that
I can subscribe to. Does anybody know of any other Pinoy mag.?


Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY)
Subject: Re: World Series Smoking Gun?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 02:01:00 GMT

In article <5207@sumax.seattleu.edu>, grtorlba@sumax.seattleu.edu (George Torra writes...
>In article <25SEP199220095917@sscvx1.ssc.gov> godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov
>(LAURENCE GODFREY) writes: 
>>
>>Well now I know some good Filipinos, in fact I am in love with one of them
>>(my wife), but I have to say in all honesty that I have never encountered
>>such high densities of dishonesty and agressive crookedness as when I have
>>visited the Philippines.  I say that from the perspective of one who has
>>visited and lived in many countries, and travelled a great deal in Asia.
>>
>>Laurence
> 
>So what's your point, Laurence.  Densities are just that, densities.  If
>you're trying to imply that they represent the whole then I say BULL SHIT!!!
> 
>George

Since I began the paragraph by saying "I know some good Filipinos", I could
hardly have been trying to imply anything of the sort, could I?  In fact,
I was trying to imply nothing  - just what I said.  A high density of 

fdishonesty means just that - there is a higher probability of encountering
dishonesty in the Philippines than in the other Asian countries I have 
visited or lived in.

Laurence
From: m-muyot@uiuc.edu (Ching Muyot)
Subject: PI=Philippines???
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: Dept. of Statistics
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:05:37 GMT

Please, if you value our country's independence and respect it's people,
refrain from calling the Philippines "PI". The name "Philippine Islands"
is a thing of the past and for some of us, brings to mind painful pictures 
of our past as oppressed subjects of colonial masters. 

It is also inaccurate since the country has been called Republic of the
Philippines since we gained our independence, therefore, "the Philippine
Islands" doesn't exist anymore (except maybe in the mind of our
colonizers).

Most Filipinos who grew up in the Philippines would not know what you're
referring to anyway since it's not commonly used back home (we use the
abbreviations, RP, Phils., or 'Pinas.). 

Based on my observations, why is it that most people who
call the Philippines "PI" are associated with the US military?
From:  ( )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Chinese/Filipino Kidnapping Victim Freed
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:47:57 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino


	MANILA, Philippines (UPI) -- Crack police freed a Chinese teenager and
killed three of her suspected kidnappers, including a rogue police
officer and an army soldier, Vice President Joseph Estrada said early
Saturday.
	Estrada, who heads a presidential anti-crime commission, said police,
acting on a tip, raided the kidnappers' safehouse in suburban Las Pinas
shortly before midnight Friday.
	They pulled Michelle Lim to safety following a shootout with three
members of the kidnapping gang that snatched the 16-year-old as she was
being driven to school early Thursday.
	``I'm okay,'' Lim, the daughter of a textile mill owner, told
reporters after her rescue.
	Two of her kidnappers were shot dead in the encounter, one of them an
army private, radio reports said. One escaped.
	Hours earlier, members of Estrada's task force ambushed four other
members of the gang as they drove toward a rendezvous to collect the
ransom for Lim. One gang member, a police officer, was killed.
	Following the incident, Estrada appealed to the public for help in
stamping out a worsening spate of kidnappings that has outraged the
Chinese business community and threatened to derail the country's
improving image abroad.
	``Let us help each other to clean our society so we can have
progress,'' Estrada said in a radio interview. ``As long as there is no
peace in our country, tourists and investors will be afraid to come.''
	The Chinese community, which controls the country's retail trade and
has large holdings in banking, insurance, shipping and other industries,
is a prime target for kidnapping gangs.
	At least 25 Chinese businessmen or their relatives have been snatched
since Aug. 4. Their families are believed to have paid a total of at
least $2 million in ransom.
	Many kidnap victims say they are reluctant to report their abductions
to the police because of widespread fears that police officers and
soldiers are involved in the gangs.
	The government arrested two senior police officers in August for
allegedly being top members of a kidnapping gang. The head of the
Philippine National Police was also dismissed amid reports of his
involvement.
	Militant members of the ethnic Chinese community said they were
considering forming vigilante groups or hiring mercenaries to protect
themselves and their families from the kidnappers.
	The mainstream Federation of Filipino-Chinese industrialists has
rejected such proposals and pledged to help authorities in their anti-
crime drive.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: ncalleja@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Nilo  Calleja)
Subject: Greetings form Australia!
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 06:45:45 GMT



                          Bilib sila sa Pinoy!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: sdekey@natinst.com (Samson Dekey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Request for Travel Agencies (REPOST)
Date: 30 Sep 1992 13:20:56 -0500
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: eagle.natinst.com

Fellow scf netters, if you know of any travel agencies where one can 
purchase inexpensive airline tickets to Philippines, can you send me
their name and phone number?

Once I compile an adequate list of travel agencies I will post it.

Thanks.

Sam


Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: candel@crchh572.bnr.ca (Dave Candelario)
Subject: Dallas meeting
Reply-To: candel@crchh572.bnr.ca (Dave Candelario)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 13:11:42 GMT


Hi All,


     Joel and I were thinking about a get together for all of us in the 
Dallas area.  I do seem to recall that there was another gentleman from
Austin who volunteered to set up the get together.  Please let us know
how many would be interested, what dates would be good, etc., etc.

BTW, I don't have an internet address so I cannot receive E-mail, I can
only post.  Can anyone help with this dilemna by acting as a mailbox?

Regards,

Dave


P.S. Pinoy Power.....
From: gustilo@pop-server.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Posting from Manila (was Re: PH: NEW HANDS ON THE HELM)
Date: 27 Sep 92 02:28:24 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Sep26.022351.18421@schbbs.mot.com>,
RMNL69@paccvm.corp.mot.com (Les Aquino) wrote:

-- stuff deleted

> LES - Posting from MANILA
                     ^^^^^^

for real???????????????. There is an actual site that can post from the
Philippines to USENET!!!

Do you also have full INTERNET Access?

This is a most welcome development.

Standard Disclaimer:
  I am not responsible for comments that I make after 3:00 AM or after five
cups of coffee, whichever comes first.
From: mgb@ocf.berkeley.edu (M.G. Bertulfo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: World Series Smoking Gun?
Date: 27 Sep 92 00:13:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.1a2uboINNq6l
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: monsoon.berkeley.edu

grtorlba@sumax.seattleu.edu (George Torralba) writes:
>In article <25SEP199220095917@sscvx1.ssc.gov> godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov
>(LAURENCE GODFREY) writes: 
>>
>>Well now I know some good Filipinos, in fact I am in love with one of them
>>(my wife), but I have to say in all honesty that I have never encountered
>>such high densities of dishonesty and agressive crookedness as when I have
>>visited the Philippines.  I say that from the perspective of one who has
>>visited and lived in many countries, and travelled a great deal in Asia.
>>
>>Laurence
>
>So what's your point, Laurence.  Densities are just that, densities.  If
>you're trying to imply that they represent the whole then I say BULL SHIT!!!
>
>George

I would have to agree with George that we really shouldn't take one "part"
of a whole and generalize it's qualities to that whole--in this case we
are talking about Filipinos.

There are a few things that Laurence may want to reconsider. First of all,
having visted and travelled "a great deal in Asia" you must have a working
knowledge of the Philippines' colonial past (with the United States and with
Spain). Second, you must also know that the Philippines is one of the seven
poorest nations in the world. Having this knowledge about the Philippines'
political/historical/economic context, then, may help you reassess your
apparent shock at the "densities of dishonesty and aggressive crookedness"
that you "encountered" in the Philippines. Chaos has often been the result
when imperial/colonial powers have culturally and politically restructured
what are now known as "third world" nations. What I'm strongly suggesting
is that what you called "dishonesty", etc. while extremely chaotic, is the
result of the Philippines' colonial past and current economic state.

Also, I wanted to take a moment to talk a bit about tourism and the authority
it seems to afford those who have toured "other countries". (This is NOT a
direct response to you Laurence, who said he lived thorughout Asia, 
but rather a tangent of my own that I think
is pertinent to the discussion of assessing and making value judgements about
whole cultures.) As tourists, we (myself included) gain a small insight into
the lives of the peoples who actually live in the countries we visit. What 
outsiders view as dishonesty or agressive crookedness may be the peoples'
way of surviving very harsh conditions. We need to understand the conditions
against which the people struggle before judging them. Dishonesty to some may
be resourcefulness/survival for others.

m.g. bertulfo
Date: Tuesday, 6 Oct 1992 18:48:33 CET
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: mencarna@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Mark J. Encarnacion)
Distribution: world
Organization: RISC, University of Linz, Austria
Subject: Re: Filipino Jazz

Try Bobby Enriquez, the greatest jazz pianist alive.  Any decent CD
store should have at least one of his discs.
Mark
From:  ( )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: US Still Seeking Military Ties to Phils
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:44:06 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino


	HONG KONG (UPI) -- Despite the pullout of U.S. forces, the United
States is pursuing ties with the Philippine military, the U.S.
ambassador to the Philippines said Friday.
	``We will have to see what is still doable,'' Ambassador Richard
Solomon said about a military connection between the countries. ``It is
not an issue we are forcing.''
	Solomon spoke at a seminar for potential investors in the
Philippines, who also were advised by Philippine economist Bernardo
Villegas that if they stayed out of Manila's Chinatown they need not
fear for personal security in a wave of kidnappings of Filipino Chinese.
	Villegas claimed Taipei was the ``kidnapping capital of Asia'' and
demonstrated that violent crime was not a deterrent to 10 percent
economic growth.
	Solomon said the United States continued to assist the Philippine
military with information, training and maintaining its capability. He
said the United States would comply with its obligations under the 1951
U.S.-Philippine Mutual Defense treaty, which remained in force.
	He said also the United States sought to encourage a diplomatic
solution to conflicting claims to the Spratley Islands in the South
China Sea. The Philippines, China, Taiwan, Malaysia, Vietnam and Brunei
are among the states with claims.
	The withdrawal of U.S. forces from Clark air base, Subic Bay naval
station and other U.S. bases in the Philippines was ``not a signal of
the dimunition of America's commitment to regional defense,'' Solomon
said in his speech.
	``The United States remains a Pacific power by virtue of its
important national interests shaped by geography and economic and
cultural ties.
	``In close collaboration with willing governments, we will continue
to play the stabilizing role in Asia.''
	In his talk, Villegas insisted the Philippine economy eventually
would catch up to the growth of Malaysia and Thailand.
	But he warned the Philippines faced a $5 billion trade deficit and
that power failures would worsen next year despite private business
imports of generators that would provide more than 800 megawats of
electricity, or more than the 600 megawats anticipated from the
country's now mothballed nuclear power plant in Bataan.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: ajpg1322@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Angelo J. Paguia)
Subject: Re: Any Ateneans
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 03:34:16 GMT

ador@mullara.met.unimelb.edu.au (Amador Argete) writes:

>>mrd55864@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (A Servant of Christ):

>>Hi, ang pangalan ko ay Michael DeGuzman. Pumunta ako sa Us noong
>>December 1983.  Sa pilipibnas, nag attend ako sa Ateneo.  Hangang
>>4th grade lang ang na acomplishe ko.  Kung sinoba diyan ay nang galing
>>sa ateneo puede ba sulatan mo ako.  Ang E-mail ko ay
>>gooseman@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu or mrd55864@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu.
>>Salamat po.  Gusto ko lang malaman kung ano na ngya nagn
>>nangyari sa manga l kaklase ko.  thanks

>Grade IV?

Hey, don't pick on Mike. He just means he finished grade 4 at Ateneo.
He's in college now, though. It's just hard to write in Tagalog when
you don't use it often. This is true here in the Midwest where there
are very few Filipinos (and no place to eat Filipino food at, sigh.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino