HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bent@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: The slaughter of the Armenian Turish Greek chicke
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:26:10 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

In article <9210141840@zuma.UUCP>, sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) writes:
> 
> So, you have a recurring fantasy that sees "this guy" through.
> I venture to guess that your daily life is a lot like an endless
> chore of chasing "cute" chickens in a large pen.

	My pen is the whole globe - including Turkey, Armenia, Greece - 
and I find that some chickens drop more feces than others.  

Keep taking yourself seriously, "Serdar" - - 
Xref: sparky soc.culture.turkish:10602 alt.activism.d:3812 soc.rights.human:3880
From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history,soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: "wieneramus": black sheep of the x-Soviet Jews.
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 18:25:32 EDT
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world

In article <718422095@locust.cs.duke.edu> wiener@duke.cs.duke.edu (Edward Wiener) writes:

>      Well, either end this distortion of truth or be exposed
>      as a liar on the net.  Produce any excerpt from my postings

Everybody knows that you are a self-admitted liar.

 Source: "Mitteilungsblatt, Berlin, December 1939, Nr. 2 and 5-6"

 Yet another historical fact: a fact that for years has been deliberately 
 forgotten, concealed, and wiped from memory - the fact of Armenian-Nazi 
 collaboration.

 A magazine called Mitteilungsblatt der Deutsch-Armenischen Gesselschaft
 is the clearest and most definite proof of this collaboration. The 
 magazine was first published in Berlin in 1938 during Nazi rule of Germany
 and continued publication until the end of 1944. Even the name of the
 magazine, which implies a declaration of Armenian-Nazi cooperation,
 is attention-getting.

 This magazine, every issue of which proves the collaboration, is historically
 important as documentary evidence. It is a heap of writing that should be
 an admonition to world opinion and to all mankind. Every issue embroiders
 the themes of enmity towards Turkey and towards Turks.

 In Nazi Germany, Armenians were considered to be an Aryan race and certain
 political, economic, and social rights were thus granted to them. They 
 occupied positions in public service and were partners in Nazi practices.
 The whole world of course knows what awaited those who were not considered 
 "Aryan" and what befell them.

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)


Xref: sparky soc.culture.turkish:10569 talk.politics.mideast:21001 soc.culture.greek:9632 soc.culture.europe:8877 soc.history:8928
From: oral@E34-530-1.MIT.EDU (gamiteer)
Subject: Re: Cairo Earthquake?
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:36:09 GMT

CMD solutions suggest normal faulting with a small strike-slip 
component(harvard soln B10292A, GDSN data)

fault plane solution may suggest an activity related to the opening 
of read sea? 

It may also suggest that the Sinai peninsula could behave as an
independent block bounded by dead sea fault in the east extending to
Turkey.  East of cyprus the subductive behaviour of the African plate
is quite puzzling.  The diffuse and aseismic nature of deformation
cannot constrain any determinate subduction nor transcurrent motion
towards Iskenderun gulf, Turkey.  Seized subduction in the Levant Sea
could well be explained by a young platelet caught in between the
African and Arabian plates which are converging towards Eurasia.

cheers

burch 


Xref: sparky soc.culture.turkish:10616 talk.politics.mideast:21086 soc.culture.greek:9691 soc.culture.europe:8925 soc.history:8955
From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Turkiye had to intervene militarily to live up to her responsibilities.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 17:51:24 EDT
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world

In article <Bw0rz8.BwD@news.cso.uiuc.edu> varnavas@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (varnavas constantine) writes:

>Can you explain how the Turkish invasion of Cyprus was justified?

Anytime. The people of Turkiye, following Sampson's coup, urged first 
Greece then Britain to intervene. Both refused. Therefore, Turkiye had 
to intervene militarily to live up to her treaty responsibilities. 
The record clearly shows that the Greek Cypriot leadership never
believed in equality between the two communities, have accepted
the independence with great reluctance and then nullified the
constitution in a unilateral fashion, counting on a forceful
fait accompli. 

Article IV of the 1960 Tripartite Treaty of Guarantee among Great 
Britain, Turkiye, and Greece gave Turkiye the right to intervene if 
the 1960 agreement was violated. When Greece invaded the island on 
July 15, 1974, and then tried to annex it, the Turkish government 
acted to establish an area in northern Cyprus where Turkish Cypriots 
could live free of fear.

The August 30, 1974, "Die Zeit" German newspaper report of "the 
Massacre of Turkish Cypriots in Paphos and Famagusta," proves how 
justified the Turks were in undertaking their intervention.

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)

Xref: sparky soc.culture.turkish:10495 talk.politics.mideast:20905 talk.politics.soviet:8352 soc.culture.greek:9526 soc.culture.europe:8819 soc.rights.human:3811
From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.rights.human
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Azeris have been shot dead from their heads as close as one meter.
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 17:41:39 EDT
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world

In article <1476700551@igc.apc.org> Coordinator <hrcoord@igc.apc.org> writes:

>/* Written 12:49 pm  Sep 29, 1992 by hrcoord in cdp:ai.general */

Source: Channel 4 News at 19.00, Monday 2 March 1992.
2 French journalists have seen 32 corpses of men, women and children 
in civilian clothes. Many of them shot dead from their heads as close 
as less than 1 meter.

Source: BBC1 Morning news at 07.37, Tuesday 3 March 1992.
BBC reporter was live on line and he claimed that he saw more than 100
bodies of Azeri men, women and children as well as a baby who are shot
dead from their heads from a very short distance.

Source: BBC1 Morning news at 08:12, Tuesday 3 March 1992.
Very disturbing picture has shown that many civilian corpses who were 
picked up from mountain. Reporter said he, cameraman and Western Journalists 
have seen more than 100 corpses, who are men, women, children, massacred 
by Armenians. They have been shot dead from their heads as close as 1 
meter. Picture also has shown nearly ten bodies (mainly women and children) 
are shot dead from their heads. Azerbaijan claimed that more than 1000 
civilians massacred by Armenian forces.

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)
From: mot@acsu.buffalo.edu (mustafa o tanrikulu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Turkish restaurants in Rochester and/or Toronto.
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:39:12 GMT
Organization: UB
Originator: mot@ozan4.eng.buffalo.edu



Hello everbody,

Are there any Turkish restaurants in Rochester and/or Toronto?
If yes, could you write me their addresses through e-mail?
Thanks...


M. Okan Tanrikulu

mot@acsu.buffalo.edu
mot@eng.buffalo.edu
Xref: sparky soc.culture.turkish:10653 soc.culture.iranian:8991 soc.culture.pakistan:15745
From: 988fernandez@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: yurtdisi gundelikleri
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:12:20 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

devlet memurlari kanununa gore odenen yurtdisi gundeliklerindeki degisiklik 
hakkinda bilgisi olan varsa lutfen gecsin.
From: hk28+@andrew.cmu.edu (Han Kiliccote)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: TARAYICI KAMPANYASI
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:35:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.8erEAc600WB7AVmFs1
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Selam,
2 senedir tarayici ve OCR kullanan birisi olarak, OCR ve tarayici
konusunda yeterince bilgi sahibi oldugumu saniyorum.
1. Ben Recognita plus kullaniyorum ama biraz eski bir versiyonunu (Mayis
1991). Asagida bazi Recognita ile ilgili puf noktalar.
    a) program piyasadaki en iyi OCR programi degil ama Turkce konusunda
yeterince iyi oldugu soylenebilir. Diger OCR'larin cogu sadece
Ingilizceyi destekliyorlar ve sozluk kullandiklari icin daha iyi
neticeler elde ediyorlar.
    b) Program destegini unutun. Firma bir Macar firmasi ve eger
Macaristan'a telefon etme kararligini gosterirseniz, tek dedikleri
"sorunun farkindayiz, duzeltecegiz, yeni versiyonu bekleyin" gibi
oyalamalar. Turkiye'de Recognita'yi destekleyen sirketi de unutun. Onlar
genelde sizden daha cahil olacaklardir.
    c) programin Windows versiyonu da var ama yuklemeye deymez.
Kesinlikle DOS'ta kullanin. Nedense daha yavas ve daha hatali
    d) gazete okutmak istiyorsaniz ilk once bir fotokopisini cekin
(nedenini bilmiyorum ama cok daha iyi netice veriyor)
    e) fax okutmak hic iyi sonuclar vermiyor (Cok kaliteli fax
kullaniyorsaniz ve harflerin puntolari buyukse o baska)
    f) Uzun yazilar okutacaksaniz, WordPerfect'i tavsiye ederim. Macro
olayi sayesinde isler Recognita ile bayagi kolaylasiyor. (ornek
Recognita z harfini kucuk I (dotlessi) harfine cevirmeye bayiliyor.
Butun sesli harflerden sonra gelen "dotlessi"'leri sesliharf ve z ye
otamatik olarak cevirebilirsiniz)
    g) Turkce harfleri (ccedille, odieresis vb.) lower ASCII'ye herhangi
bir kelime islemci ile cevirebilirsiniz.

Turkce spell check olayi icin biraz bekleminiz lazim.
Daha fazla bilgi lazimsa bir e-mail yollayin.
Han Kiliccote <hk28@andrew.cmu.edu>
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From: hminassi@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (GOTCHA!)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Ca Va Gaser
Date: 11 Oct 92 00:44:26 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego


  Caution: my future posts will contain a higher dose
of sarcasm, humor, and spice.  If you have a known
ilness such as high blood pressure, enphazima, or other
please create a kill file on my posts.

  -Helgge

  Le tort tue et la verite blesse.
From: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek
Subject: Typical Greek Foreign Policy
Date: 10 Oct 92 18:30:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-1243v.32bis
Reply-To: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 


> The Greek government is not participating in the Display
> Determination exercises since May 8th, 1981. The Greek

  You ommit to mention that the exercises began in 1981. In other words,
Greece never participated in D.D.

>foreign relations. After all, it was the same Greece that
>tried to obstruct the Spanish enterance to NATO, fortunately
>achieving little besides annoyance.

 In other words, Greece was the only country that had a problem with the
admission and legitimisation  of Franco's openly Fasist dictatorial
regime. Greece (and all Greeks) are very proud of that today. The
honorable stance of Karamanlis against Franco in the 60s, (esp the royal
wedding incident) has become the basis for the warm relations between
Spain and Greece today.

> And of course, it was the same Greece that declared in 1984,
>(during the years the cold war was still ensuing,)
>that there is no threat from Warsaw pact, which by itself

 Were they? History has left you behind, my friend. Papandreou, for all
his innumerable faults, at least got one thing right: Openness and
co-operation would bring down the Berlin Wall.

>declaration. Given such a history of intrigue, perhaps one
>should ask why NATO needs Greece anyway.

 I'll ask why Greece (or any other country in Europe) needs NATO today.

>  The Greeks have survived in spite of all the world could
> do against them, and all they could do against themselves.
>              --Sir Winston Churchill

 Sir Winston got that right. And we are surviving today, much to your
dissapointment.


Michael.
                    
Xref: sparky soc.culture.turkish:10555 talk.politics.mideast:20971 talk.politics.soviet:8397 soc.culture.greek:9612 soc.culture.europe:8867 soc.history:8922 soc.rights.human:3833
From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Weedly Magic Guy Index *** O'GUY'S COWARDLY ACT ***
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 17:20:17 EDT
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world

In article <1992Oct7.005020.1776@trl.oz.au> jbm@hal.trl.OZ.AU (Jacques Guy) writes:

>IWe apologize to our readers for the delay in the Weedly Index,
>brought about by a hardware problem which the best minds in
>Istambull, Andara, and elsewhere worth mentioning have not been
>able to fix yet. Whenever we hit the "D" dey on our deyboard, out

No problem, o'guyo. In fall 1942, the Armenian infantry battalions 808 and 
809 were formed, to be followed by battalions 810, 812 and 813 in spring 
1943. In the second half of 1943 infantry battalions 814, 815 and 816 were 
created. These battalions together with other indigenous Caucasian units 
were attached to the infantry division 162. Also attached to ID 162 were
the field battalions II/9, I/125 and I/198 which were formed between
May 1942 and May 1943. Altogether twelve Armenian battalions served the
Nazi army, if battalion II/73, which was not employed at any time, is to be
included.[1] Most battalions were commanded by Nazi Armenian officers.
Armenians wore German uniforms with an armband in the Dashnag colours 
red-blue-orange and the inscription 'Armenien.'

[1] Joachim Hoffmann, 'Dies Ostlegionen 1941-1943, Turkotataren, 
    Kaukasier und Wolgafinned im deutschen Heer,' (Verlag Rombach
    Freiburg 1976), p. 172.

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)
From: kutluhan@cs.umd.edu (kutluhan erol)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: An apology to Giorgos
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:16:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: mimsy.61223

Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Keywords: 

I  apologize for misspelling Giorgos' name in my previous posting.

Kutluhan Erol
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: cosar@ulysses.cs.umn.edu (Ahmet Cosar)
Subject: ftp.cs.umn.edu (128.101.230.100) anonymous ftp login change
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 03:10:57 GMT

The ftp address for anonymous ftp of cs.umn.edu has been changed to

   ftp.cs.umn.edu    (ip number is: 128.101.230.100 if your domain-server
                      doesn't know about it)

the login id to be used is also changed and "ftp" must be used as the
user instead of "anonymous". You can use your e-mail addresses as the
password.

After login enter "cd users/cosar" to reach the Turkish directory.

Additions to the archive:

   . turkce.zip   (looks similar to the turkish1.zip but the file sizes
                   are different. Let me know if you use both and have
                   any comments.)

   . Kesin_Donus_Icin_Gumruk_Islemleri (from TEL)

   . Turkish Restaurants in NY (from TEL)

I am also looking for Turkish poetry and stories either in Turkish or in
a foreign language for adding to the archive. If you already have an archive
of such material let me know and arrange for downloading to the archive.

For any problems/questions/suggestions send e-mail to cosar@mail.cs.umn.edu.

thanks,


--
   A.Cosar                                                                      ________________________________________________________________________                
Disc space -- the final frontier!                                               ________________________________________________________________________

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Disclaimer: I speak for myself<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
From: ob00@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (OLCAY BOZ)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: hello again
Date: 17 Oct 92 00:18:05 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

I also aggree with you. Greek and Turkish people have lots of similarities and
both governments are enemies to each other (I said governments because I do
not believe that people sees each other as enemies). Why can't we be more
friendly to each other? Why don't we try it at least once? What do we have to
looese?


In article <1992Oct16.082505.29575@csd.uch.gr>, chstu59@ikaros.cc.uch.gr (Giorgo
s) writes:
>hi again (tekrar merhaba) :)
>Although I'm still unexperienced with netnews it seems you
>got my mail since I already got an answer to it :)
>I believe that looking at the past won't help us with
>future so much.From both sides (greek-turkish) there have
>been made mistakes.Now we are here and we should solve all
>the troubles in a peaceful way looking at the future and
>not the past.Why do you people remember only the bad memories
>of the past? As far as I could read in the mails of this list
>only unhappy memories were mentioned.How about the agreement
>that E. Veninzelos & K. Ataturk were about to sign ? We all
>know that all the unhappy facts were caused by other more
>"powerful" countries (England,France..) It is alsways a
>political game played behind our back.As far as I have seen
>turkish people are so friendly with me,and generally with
>greek people.I have my own experiences on that :) So let's
>try to make peace with each other ,cause I think that greek
>people have more problem accepting a peace,than turks !
>I'll be waiting for more positive discussions,
>selamlar,
>     Giorgos
>
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From: hilmi-er@solda.enet.dec.com (Hilmi Eren)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: hello again
Date: 16 Oct 92 10:58:52 GMT
Reply-To: hilmi-er@solda.enet.dec.com (Hilmi Eren)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Oct16.082505.29575@csd.uch.gr>, chstu59@ikaros.cc.uch.gr (Giorgos) writes:
|>Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
|>Path: kth.se!sunic!mcsun!news.forth.gr!csd.uch.gr!ikaros.cc.uch.gr!chstu59
|>From: chstu59@ikaros.cc.uch.gr (Giorgos)
|>Subject: hello again
|>Message-ID: <1992Oct16.082505.29575@csd.uch.gr>
|>Sender: news@csd.uch.gr
|>Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Crete HELLAS
|>X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
|>Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 09:25:05 MET
|>Lines: 21
|>
|>hi again (tekrar merhaba) :)
|>Although I'm still unexperienced with netnews it seems you
|>got my mail since I already got an answer to it :) 
|>I believe that looking at the past won't help us with
|>future so much.From both sides (greek-turkish) there have
|>been made mistakes.Now we are here and we should solve all
|>the troubles in a peaceful way looking at the future and
|>not the past.Why do you people remember only the bad memories
|>of the past? As far as I could read in the mails of this list
|>only unhappy memories were mentioned.How about the agreement
|>that E. Veninzelos & K. Ataturk were about to sign ? We all
|>know that all the unhappy facts were caused by other more
|>"powerful" countries (England,France..) It is alsways a 
|>political game played behind our back.As far as I have seen
|>turkish people are so friendly with me,and generally with
|>greek people.I have my own experiences on that :) So let's
|>try to make peace with each other ,cause I think that greek
|>people have more problem accepting a peace,than turks !
|>I'll be waiting for more positive discussions,
|>selamlar,
|>     Giorgos
|>

I agree  with you for 100% Giorgos, and i hope 
the discussion on this net will be more friendly,
unfortunately there allways be some "Judas" or "Brutus",
you understand what i mean don't you?

Hilmi Eren
Deparment Of Computer And Systems Science
Stockholm Universty, Sweden
Hilmi-er@dsv.su.se
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek