HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dwells@lonestar.utsa.edu (Darren . Wells)
Subject: Re: HI there!
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:41:39 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.223549.12230@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
 dwells@lonestar.utsa.edu (Darren . Wells) writes:
>In article <4fHTJEC00WBO83rF0S@andrew.cmu.edu>
> "Sherrianne M. Johnson" <sj1s+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>
>>I'm back from break!  The conversations on this bboard are great!
>>Everything's great!
>
>Yay!  I had to send you a personalized e-hug because:
>1) This is the first original article I have come across today.
>2) I am in the same boat, just arriving back to the keyboard from
>    the holiday.
>3) You seemed tasty.  *wink*

I realized after I sent this that I had forgotten the hug, after
explaining why it was necessary.

So have a hug, dear.  *big warm bear hug*

Okay, pretty bad when you follow up to your own post, I know.
So sue me.  (or maybe I just need a whipping . . . ) *evil grin*

>>I'm sorry for wasting the bandwidth here, but I just got so enthused!
>>It's just so great to be back on this bboard, and back...home...
>
>I feel the same way.
>
>>sher
>>sj1s@andrew.cmu.edu
>
>Darren
>

Darren, again
(who can give a genuine bear hug now, since he grew a beard while
on vacation)

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From: wells@athena.cs.uga.edu (Scott Wells)
Subject: Re: Blatant hug request
Keywords: hugs, support
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:11:28 GMT


Well then, *hugs galore*
I guess that's why we're called family.


-- 
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Internet: wells@athena.cs.uga.edu  +  Christian Unitarians and Universalists
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Subject: Re: general dissatisfaction
From: woodhous@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Joe P Woodhouse)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:09:52 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia
Keywords: hugs, angst

eowyn@ravel.udel.edu (Zoe Antonia Velonis) writes:
>Zoe (who is keeping a stiff upper lip and wants to know when exactly Joe is
>coming, since Nick stubbornly refuses to tell her)

   Zoe, if you're losing net access soon (you said something about your site
closing around you?) give me some other way to get in touch with you...
Karina's & my plans may be undergoing a major reshuffle soon that will
discommode many many people... 8-<

Joe.

  / Joe Woodhouse        / I'm just a sweet bisexual...   / Hello, there.
 / Latrobe University   /    (think - Rocky Horror)      / Threesomes are fun.
/ Melbourne, Australia / Music. Magic. Mathematics. Me. / I like cats! (miaow!)
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From: solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay)
Subject: Re: Anyone read Sandman?
Organization: Castle Anthrax
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:53:51 GMT

In article <C0rDFo.6G1@news.udel.edu> eowyn@chopin.udel.edu (Zoe Antonia Velonis) writes:
>
>And Dream...well, as I mentioned before, I drooled over a guy on campus who
>has Morpheus painted on the back of his (black) jeans jacket.  I drooled 
>over the painting, too, of course!

Well, speaking of GaimanWear(TM): I have the "Kid MiracleMan" insignia
painted in yellow on the back of my biker jacket. So far, one person
has recognized it... humph. Where are all the other Bateses?
-- 
Andrew Solovay    

"I is not now, nor has I ever been, a Human Bein'!"
                ---Pogo Possum
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From: orc@vpnet.chi.il.us (david parsons)
Subject: Re: Impossible acts
Summary: sfx: waving bye-bye to nonzero signal/noise ratio
Organization: Department of Atomic Text Units
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 04:56:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.232230.4811@nwnexus.WA.COM> elf@halcyon.com (Elf Sternberg) writes:
|In article <EFAD8BD9A060005E@TUDOBM.TUDELFT.NL>
|     C.G.C.vanDijk@IO.TUDelft.NL writes:
|
|>Do you recognize this feeling of jealousy when watching a cat enjoying
|>oral sex with itself?
|
|   Nope.  After all, we can't be sure the cat is _enjoying_ what it
|does and hey, some of us humans can do that too, y'know...

   (This is not necessarily a good thing; some of us tend to clench
our teeth when we come...)

                ____
  david parsons \bi/  "Where did I put that superglue?"
                 \/
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From: SILVERI@QUCDN.QueensU.CA (Silver Tiger)
Subject: Re: bi/gay in Russia
Organization: Queens University at Kingston
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:24:19 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.143429.5426@midway.uchicago.edu>
h431@quads.uchicago.edu (heather e blair) writes:
 
>Folks,
>In the most recent issue of the Nation, (Jan 18), Andrew Kopkind has a long
>article on life in post-soviet Russia.  One of the topics he discusses is
>sexuality, feminism and the new openness about gay stuff there.  He met
>with a group of young men who get together to talk about AIDS and here's
>an interesting quotation ...
>
>   At the top we were met by a slight, blond teenager with a peach-fuzz
>   beard.  "My name is Viktor.  This is my wife," he said, nodding to
>   a heavily made-up woman in jeans and high heels, with a great deal of
>   hair.  "And this," Viktor added, "is my husband."  A man in his mid-
>   20s, with a dark stubble of whiskers stepped forward.
>
>Enjoy!
 
*grinning from ear to ear*  Heather, thank you.  You just made my afternoon!
 
Brightest Blessings,
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From: boserj@netcom.com (Jeffrey Boser)
Subject: Re: I'm coming!
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 08:25:56 GMT

becki@squid.ingres.com (Rebecca E. Tants) writes:
>Roy S. Rapoport (rsr@soda.berkeley.edu) wrote:
>: >* ->(H I N T: Muffy, Roy, ...jeff(?))
>: >* Coolness! Hey, we can all have dinner together! And we can invite Dan and
>: >* Iseult also, and a bunch of other people!! Yeah!
>: >My cup runneth over!  How is it possible that I have
>: >never announced that I'll be there before?
>: >Any more takers?  I just love a party... <big ole stupid grin>
>: 
>: Actually, Kerry'll be here also, so you'll get a chance to meet her (though
>: maybe I should make sure she doesn't meet Iseult ... I hear Iseult fits
>: nicely with Kerry's taste in women, and I don't want the competition ): ).
>
>*laugh* Hey Roy, don't forget me!!!
>
>I think it'd be fun to meet more people from this group!  granted the crossover
>between here and my older haunts is astonishing, but.....
>
>Becki (aka Roo if you read the right news groups....)

<pout>  I wanna meet everybody too!

This is almost enough to make me wish I wont be in Alaska in
a week.  almost. <grin>

....jeff

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From: h431@quads.uchicago.edu (heather e blair)
Subject: Re: Pet peeve of the day.
Keywords: Grumble Moan Complain
Reply-To: h431@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:56:11 GMT

In article <1993Jan2.035846.1004@news.columbia.edu> jsb16@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jennifer S Broekman) writes:
>In article <8c52p8=@rpi.edu> safarj@aix.rpi.edu (Jonah Emanuel Safar) writes:
>> Just a random peeve of the day... I hate when people think you are
>>ignoring them when you don't just hop up and answer a page, or a  
>>message, email, talk request, post or whatever immeandiately.  Did
>>it ever occur to these people that I might be busy, or away...
>>or that my machine here on campus has done one of its usual crashes?

What I LIKE about email is that you can think about a note a few hours,
or days, or weeks, before replying.  Try doing that with the phone.

>something, and I get a talk request from a userid I don't recognize. Being
>a generally friendly person, I sometimes pause what I'm doing and try to 
>figure out who's trying to talk to me. Nine times out of ten, repeatedly 
>seeing the userid, fingering the userid, etc don't tell me how I'm talking 
>to, and the twit who wants to chat keeps flooding my screen... Usually I go 
>back to what I was trying to do before I was interupted. I really, really, 
>really wish people would get a clue when their fifth talk request isn't 
>answered and send email explaining what they want to talk about. It's like 
>someone tapping insistently on an office door and refusing to go leave a 
>message, despite copious evidence that the person they want to talk to 
>doesn't have time or energy to deal with a stranger walking up out of nowhere.
>If you want to talk to someone you've never 'met' before, send a note of
>introduction, for crying out loud...

YES!  I also "finger" the person (since my mind is a sieve for userids).
If I don't know who it is, I ignore them.  I would much rather get a
polite email note of introduction.

>		jenneke is: jsb16@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu


-- 

- Heather Blair       h431@midway.uchicago.edu
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From: iw@tosser.Rational.COM (The_Devine_Dolly)
Subject: Re: Bisexual idenity and community
Organization: Rational
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:27:22 GMT

Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde) writes:

>In article <1993Jan11.173411.23150@dcs.warwick.ac.uk> 
> kay@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Kay Dekker) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan9.180627.12954@news.acns.nwu.edu> 
> Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde) writes:
>>>I've been asked via e-mail to offer my views on this thread, so I may
>>>pontificate at some length. But first let me say: IMHO IMHO YMMV YMMV 
>>>BYOB RSVP SMTP etc... ;)
>>
>>Barely had Professor Lunde with trembling voice intoned the words,
>>the writing of which was now scarcely legible, masked with fresh blood as
>>it was, from the scrap of the grimoire found in the mad Arab's tomb,
>>and barely had his shaking hand sketched out in the empurpled air
>>of the incense-filled crypt that Sign, known by few and dared to be used
>>by yet fewer, than - behold - to the accompaniment of tinkling cymbals
>>and madly-piping flutes - a congeries of iridescent vapours, toiled
>>into shimmering spheres of infinite and arbitrary-seeming dimensionalities,
>>the emblem of the dread Yog-Sothoth!

>Professor Lunde made a mad dash for the door of the crypt, where in a
>battered leather satchel he kept the readings from the works of 
>notorious bisexuals as charms to banish evil influences. Rejecting
>The Complete Works of Oscar Wilde and a book of poetry by Robin 
>Morgan, he began to read from the autobiography of Holly Near, when
>suddenly, all light was estingushed and he felt his leg seized in a
>slimy grip!

Professor Lunde felt he ought to be scared, terrified even.  However
an inner peace spread through his soul, and his body tingled 
deliciously, as seemingly many hands glided across his body, massaging
his muscles insistently.  The scent of inscense was infused with
a musky, earthy, almost iron like, smell. Suddenly a large cloaked
figure appeared before him, and in a deep, well-bred, voice intoned
"When dead, it is indeed good to be read".  Slowly Professor Lundes
mind cleared, as though finally a swirling fog had lifted.  He 
recognised the man standing before him.  It was Oscar Wilde, looking 
larger than life, though quite obviously still dead.


Iseult.
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From: orc@vpnet.chi.il.us (david parsons)
Subject: Re: Tori bloody Amos
Organization: Department of Atomic Text Units
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:39:05 GMT

In article <29901@castle.ed.ac.uk> moragw@castle.ed.ac.uk (Alloy Serving Woman) inquires about Tori Amos:
|An honest opinion will be forthcoming. 
|I wonder if she's suitable for my collection?  If this woman turns out
|to be some white high heeled wee bint then I'll be most miffed.

   Well, she's white.  If you look at the covers of her albums,
she's rather small (but I don't think that the pictures are
supposed to be 1:1 scale :-)

|mutter
|mutter..  It takes Industrial music to cleanse the ol' heart after a
|festive visit to the parents, lie on the floor and feel it vibrate and
|pound through my entire body, mmm.

   ... and she's not industrial music.  Imagine a somewhat less
spacey Kate Bush, with much more haunting music.


|Hugs to everyone including all the fresh muffins I missed.  Now if you'd
|just come to the party in Feb you could all be de-muffined IRL
|and by the entire British (and honorary British) contingency too...
                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   AKA the "more-money-than-sense" club.  Been there, done that,
rather enjoyed it.

                 ____
   david parsons \bi/  "What's a wee matter of 4000 miles gonna do to
                  \/    stop me from attending a party?"
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 01:44:43 EST
From: Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Purity
 <1993Jan1.083649.13361@netcom.com> <93001.140156SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
 <1993Jan3.232019.3702@tcsi.com>

In article <1993Jan3.232019.3702@tcsi.com>, miket@hermes.tcs.com (Michael Turner
>In article <93001.140156SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Graydon
><SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
>>My favourite, if grammatically incorrect, response to 'what are you?'
>>questions is 'a people'.  If they stop blinking after 5 seconds or
>>don't scream at you for being a wiseass you're probably ok.
>What about when they smile condescendingly and erase you from the list
>of "peoples" with whom they can hope to have an adult conversation?

Once upon a time I thought I ought to go around opening people's
minds by whatever means came ready to hand.  I turned out to be
half decent at it, even, but I grew up a little and stopped.

Ever run into H. Beam Piper's test for an adult?  That reaction fails it.

>>[several good points, deleted however.]
>>
>>The other thing is that sticking people in bins works just fine
>>in fairly homogeneous enviroments, which most e[n]viro[n]ments are.
>>It leads to a narrow view of the world and no good poetry known to
>>me. (which last is a significant condemnation.)
>
>T.S. Eliot and Ezra Pound, to name just two, were somewhat antisemitic.
>Both wrote some very good poetry, despite dumping far too many people
>into the "Jew" bin, all the more heinous in view of how few of them
>ever returned during this time (the thirties and forties).
>
>Poets have all the failings of the rest of us, and often many more.
>I suppose they tend to stick people in bins somewhat less often than
>ordinary folk, but that doesn't mean they never do.  Even some brilliant
>poets have this failing.
>---
>Michael Turner
>miket@tcs.com

Ah.  Your pardon; I have been most imprecise.

Of course poets have the same failings as everyone else; what I was
arguing is that the bin stuffing process isn't a habit of thought
able to produce poetry.  I haven't read any Erza Pound and only as
much Eliot as they made me, but I very much doubt any of their good
stuff was about putting anyone in a bin.

This is going to start an argument about the nature of poetry, I
can just tell...

Graydon
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From: drakon@shell.portal.com (Harry Benjamin Gibson)
Subject: Re: A hug request and a general growl at the world
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:04:14 GMT

I have been reading this tread for some time and have a few pence to toss in the pot.

Any time you label anything, you limit the amount of information being transmitted by that label. Each and evry person has there own somewhat slightly differentversion of what those labels mean. Each word has a conotative and denotative    meaning. While to me an "e-slut" sounds like someone I want to know, (being a   bit of one myself :) to others, it may mean someone who sleeps around in a bad  way (Sleeping on the net?)

Communication is a tricky proposition. People don't fall neatly into catagories like bear codes or labels. Very rarely if ever can you describe a whole person  with just one or two words no matter how well chosen. There is no such thing a  white men, Trekkies, or bi-sexuals. There may be those who fit into many of     these bins superficially, but to claim to understand where a person is or even  be able to predict what this person will do in any and all situations based on  these labels is futile.

A label is a symbol in its most general form for people. It may identify the    person as a cross might identify a church on a map, but it really doesn't tell  you anything about the church or the person.

This is what fasinates me about bigotry. To hate someone based on insufficient  data always did seem like wasted effort, a good way of inducing ulcers and      making life just that little bit less livable. To hate someone who you don't    know seems silly.

I think thats about 2 cents worth 

Bin Gibson (drakon)


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From: litterst@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Stephen Litterst)
Subject: Re: On the Making of Crumbs.
Keywords: ex muffin crumbs
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:44:34 GMT

In article <hv-3sza@rpi.edu> safarj@aix.rpi.edu (Jonah Emanuel Safar) writes:
>I am not so sure 'Crumbs' is the best reference to use for 'Ex-Muffins'...
>I mean, am I the only one that thinks of Penfold when someone uses that
>word? :)
>
>Penfold, is that a muffin I see there?
>Crumbs boss!
>Thank you Penfold.
>
>-Points (Early morning dragon?  No.)
>
>Gratuitous editor provided letter: b
>-- 
>________________________________________________________________________________
NO!!! Not DangerMouse?!!!  Ahhhhhhhhh!@!!!!!!

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From: gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: What's a "partner"? (was Re: treating men as sex toys)
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:58:08 GMT
Reply-To: gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK

In article <MUFFY.93Jan6103005@remarque.berkeley.edu> muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy) writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.105512.2001@infodev.cam.ac.uk> gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry) writes:
>>In article <MUFFY.92Dec24114049@remarque.berkeley.edu> muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy) writes:
>>>Without getting into "what is *really* bisexual," my personal definition
>>>of bisexual is not simply having sex with both men and women, but being
>>>*interested* in both men and women, as people, as emotional partners, as
>>>well as as sexual partners.  
>
>>What do you mean by "emotional partner" (as distinct from a close friend)?
>
>Well, for me, it really isn't that distinct, actually...*smile*.  I
>realized a couple of years ago that the only difference between my close
>friends and my lovers was how much I wanted to have sex with them.

Hmm.  So your personal definition of bisexual involves having close
friends of both sexes?  Good heavens, perhaps I *am* bisexual after
all!  (That was a joke, don't all get excited...)  Seriously, I'm
sure you meant something more than that, but what?

--
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From: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk (Clive Grace)
Subject: Re: Het males & bi-fems
Reply-To: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 13:59:00 +0000


They do... believe me some of them do....

(I made a hot bi studs posting a while back and she aint let up yet 
-- I just learned to handle it better)
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| When I grow up, I want to give up being   |cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk|
| a Journalist and learn how to write...    |                          |
+-------------------------------------------+--------------------------+
|       Bisexual knitter of quality and distinction since 1992.        |
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From: winsor@teng.ppd.ti.com (js)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: What's a "partner"? (was Re: treating men as sex toys)
Date: 7 Jan 1993 23:11:16 GMT
Organization: Tiny Income
Distribution: world
Reply-To: winsor@teng.ppd.ti.com (js)
NNTP-Posting-Host: geek.teng.ppd.ti.com

In article <1993Jan7.162214.27025@infodev.cam.ac.uk>, sa121@cl.cam.ac.uk (S. Arrowsmith) writes:
*** In article <1ihcqhINN6rm@cuda.add.itg.ti.com> 
*** 	winsor@Not Heresomewhere.out.there (js) writes:
*** >What is exactly wrong with "sex-with-anyone-that-will-hold-still" being
*** >a viable definition of "bisexual"?  I understand that it is not yours, or
*** >mine for that matter, but I think that it has merit in this:  If someone
*** >is *willing* to have sex-with-anything-that-moves (we assume human, for now),
*** >then I believe that that willingness necessarily implies bisexuality.
*** >
*** Point being that it doesn't *define* bisexuality -- it is only a criterion
*** by which a person may be judged ( bisexual | undetermined ).  A definition
*** needs to include all (well, virtually all) people who might by some 
*** appropriate heuristic be considered "bisexual" for it to be useful.  This
*** one clearly fails....
Well, we are all grappling with different parts of the same elephant
here, you know.  How can ANYBODY assign, in good consience, a single
imperative definition (for definitions are imperatives) to a desperately
intractible intangible like sexuality.  Mabe we should try our hands
at defining, say, a "david parsons" or an "Elf!!!" or a "Masked Muffin"?
Inadequate data (not knowing what the hell lies under sexuality, to begin
with) leads to inadequate conclusions.  GIGO.

Dig?

jsjohn
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From: h431@quads.uchicago.edu (heather e blair)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Sexual consent (Was: Roy's "consenting" slave)
Date: 5 Jan 93 21:26:21 GMT
Reply-To: h431@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago

In article <1993Jan4.140602.6127@oz.plymouth.edu> j_babylo@oz.plymouth.edu (Jessica L. Babylon) writes:

>Interjection if i may:  ASSERTIVENESS is awesome if you have had a bit
>of training in Straight Talk which is a program i went through at my
>High School that taught students to use "I" messages (instead of "you
>make me feel like sh*t..."I feel really bad when you act like that
>because..." ) it was really helpful in confrontation situations...with
>parents, teachers, and peers specially...i worked for some people once
>who taught straight talk (married couple...great people) and i learned
>even more from them..if there is a program around that teaches
>that(Twae Kon Do is a good idea too:) you might do well to check into
>it...a great way to find the assertive person in you and learn how to
>use assertiveness in the most accurate way possible...
>
>- Me

This sounds like an excellent idea.  I'm still learning how to do those
"I" statements instead of "you statements".  It's hard, but with practice,
I'll get it.



-- 

- Heather Blair       h431@midway.uchicago.edu
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