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From: friedan@raunvis.hi.is (Daniel Friedan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: U.S. System 7.0.1 with Icelandic fonts?
Summary: I would like to build a U.S. System 7.0.1 with Icelandic fonts.
Keywords: fonts
Date: 26 Aug 92 04:18:28 GMT
Distribution: comp

I'd greatly appreciate advice on the following problem.

I'm trying to set up a Classic II so that it runs the U.S. version of
System 7.0.1 but can be used to do word processing in Icelandic and
Swedish as well as English, with the three corresponding keyboard
layouts available to choose from.

I have available the following system software
     U.S. System 7.0.1 with Tuneup 1.1.1
     Icelandic System 7.0.1 with Tuneup 1.1.1
     Swedish System 7.0.1 with Tuneup 1.1.1
     International System 7.0.1.1 with Tuneup 1.0.

Here is what I've attempted so far.

First, I installed U.S. System 7.0.1 with Tuneup 1.1.1.

Then I used MountImage to open the font disk of the Icelandic System 7.0.1
installation set.  I dropped all the Icelandic fonts onto the U.S. 7.0.1
System folder and agreed to have them installed in the System, replacing
the fonts of the same name already there.

Then I opened the System file on one of the Icelandic 7.0.1 installation
disks, again using MountImage, and copied the Icelandic keyboard layout
to the U.S. System folder and agreed to have it installed in the System.

Then I restarted the Classic II.

After I restarted, the Icelandic keyboard layout was present in the
Keyboard control panel along with the English one.

But three of the fonts did not give the Icelandic characters --
      Chicago 12pt, Geneva 9pt and Geneva 12pt.

In Word 5.0a, or in Key Caps from the Apple Menu, the characters eth
and thot were displayed as empty squares.  Likewise for the accented
capital letters U,I,O,A (but not E).

All the other fonts displayed eth, thot and the accented capitals correctly.

And if the Icelandic letters are used in file or folder names, the
letters are displayed as empty squares, presumably because the System
uses Geneva 9 and/or Geneva 12.

A further anomaly -- now, after a number of shutdowns and restarts, I
still see both the Icelandic and English keyboard layouts in the
Keyboard control panel, but when I open the System file I see only
fonts and sounds, no keyboard layouts at all.  I'm sure I saw the
Icelandic keyboard layout there soon after I installed it because I
remember noticing that the accented 'I' in 'Islensk displayed as an
empty square.

I feel out of my depth and would very much appreciate advice on what I'm
doing wrong or, alternatively, advice on a better way to get the
Icelandic, Swedish and U.S. alphabet and keyboard layouts all available
under System 7.0.1.

       thanks in advance,

       Daniel Friedan  <friedan@raunvis.hi.is>
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.system:11516 comp.sys.mac.apps:14019
From: isler@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Sylvia Isler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: File Sharing while prohibiting copying and modification
Date: 1 Sep 92 23:22:38 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I am running a network of 5 Mac II Si's.
I would like to improve performance on the server by allowing certain 
applications like MacDraw II and Word 5.0 to reside on individual hard drives
of the computers on the network. I don't want these applications to be copied
an pirated, however.

So, I was wondering how to go about copy-protecting these items.
I know that there are copy protection mechanism within the Appleshare
software but I'm not exactly sure how to go about doing this.

We are using System 7.0 and AppleShare v2.0.

Thank you,
Sylvia Isler
isler@gradient.cis.upenn.edu

Sylvia Isler
isler@gradient.cis
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: dlb5404@tamsun.tamu.edu (Daryl Biberdorf)
Subject: Re: Windows NT = Death of the Mac?
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 03:40:18 GMT

In article <16512@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> fzchen@othello.ucdavis.edu writes:
>I'm not completely aware of what all NT will be, though.  If it doesn't 
>somehow replace DOS or use an upgraded DOS I don't see how it could 
>really replace System 7.0.  Networking will always be limited by DOS.

NT is supposed to be a complete operating system (versus the hybrid
OS/environment of Win 3.1 -- no one can say exactly which it is to
my satisfaction).  With NT, there will be no DOS, except for the
DOS emulation that NT is supposedly going to provide.

On a disconnected note, DOS 6 is supposedly going to have networking
built-in.  A PC Week issue a couple of weeks ago talked about it.
It sounds sort of like the early versions of AppleTalk, but since
I'm fairly new to the Mac world, this may not be entirely correct.

Microsoft looks to be dividing into a low-end/high-end strategy
with DOS version ? with Windows version ? on the low-end and Windows
NT on the high-end.  NT looks like it's going to provide the features
commonly associated with systems like UNIX, as well as some other
things that not many operating systems implement yet.  It's still
very vauge, though.

NT also has very stiff hardware requirements.  A good 16 MB of RAM
and a 200 MB hard disk looks like a fairly minimal configuration.
This won't catch on on the desktop for at least another 2-3 years.

Daryl
-- 
Daryl Biberdorf  N5GJM    dlb5404@rigel.tamu.edu  or  dlb5404@tamsun.tamu.edu
        "You're not messy.  You're organizationally impaired."
                _Real_Life_Adventures_, July 3, 1992 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: simon@archsci.arch.su.oz.au (Simon Hayman)
Subject: Re: DOS Mounter, LC & System 7
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: University of Sydney
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 02:52:50 GMT

HELP!
Please ignore my last message - in fact it DOESN'T work. One can either
have zones appearing in the Chooser or DOS Mounter running not both.
Consequently, it requires a restart to change between these options.

There is little point, unfortunately, in contacting the local Australian
distributor of the product, Infomagic, as our experience of them is
terminal.
From: tbuzzeo@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Tom Buzzeo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Thanks ALOT..
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 10:51:59 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Well... I'm quite glad you all suggested the command sequence and another 
er.. not so good ideas dealing with magnets :) Thanks all for your help.. 
I've got to quit Z-Term now to try it out...

 Dis claimer - not mine. :o) tbuzzeo@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jabba@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Richard Charles Graves)
Subject: Re: Sound recording/mikes on IIfx?
Organization: Residential Computing, Stanford University
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:32:07 GMT

Both the Impact Pro and MacRecorder are incompatible with the IIfx in
normal operation. For better speed and performace, they attempt
to access the serial hardware directly, which is different in the IIfx.
The solution is to use the 'Serial Switch' 1.1 or later control panel,
which flips a bit in PRAM from 'faster' to 'compatible' serial mode.
SoundEdit (MacRecorder s/w) will tell you this if you try to run it on
an fx in faster (default) mode.
Serial Switch 1.1 is on ftp.apple.com in one of the comm directories
(because the unique serial hardware also causes problems with routers
and maybe fast modems). Don't use v1.0; it'll crash in System 7.

--
| rich graves, stanfd res affairs mac tech, and occasional senior, poli sci |
| jabba@deathstar.stanford.edu     88C Escondido Village     (415) 497-1573 |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: slavik@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Bradley)
Subject: Hard Disk Woes
Summary: Hard Disk on the Blink, SUM not helping.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 07:43:57 GMT
Keywords: Hard Disk, SUM

My hard disk has developed serious problems...
I have a Plus with 4MB RAM, 84M partitioned hardisk running system 7.
First I have been running Norton 2.0 fairly faithfully (twice per week)
Yesterday I got a volume info block error that it found every time it ran
but always claimed that it fixed it.  The program always crashed during 
volume optimization.  So I pulled out an old version of SUM II and managed
to get most of the disk optimized, and completely unfragment it.  It also
crashed.  None of the utility programs that I dragged out would lock out 
those bad sectors or move the files (if there were any there off them.
(I have my doubts because both Norton and SUM said that all the files were OK)

Now I have a partition with all my applications on it that is 
really bizarre...  First I notice that all the icons are generic, and 
rebuilding the desktop does not help the situation.  Then none of the 
applications will launch claiming that there is not enough memory, that 
the application is set to run under 0k, error -50 occurred...  Frankly,
I'm baffled.  I need a solution because like most of you Mac users, my
mac is my livelihood.  Any ideas or input over these newsgroups or through mail
would be gratefully received.  I will post the solution as soon as I discover 
it. 
		Bradley
slavik@symcom.math.uiuc.edu
From: fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: System 7.1 - an overview
Date: 27 Aug 92 06:13:26 GMT
	<1992Aug18.150516.26153@ncar.ucar.edu>
	<1992Aug18.170233.12023@terminator.cc.umich.edu>
	<mwalker-180892164221@mwalker1.npd.provo.novell.com.>
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University


>>>>> "Mel" == Mel Walker (mwalker@novell.com)

Mel> Does anyone know when THAT release is due?

Does anyone remember just how long we've been waiting for scripting in
one form or another? Somehow they always come up with a reason to say
"ah, no, sorry, it's not in *this* particular release because of
mumble mumble, but instead you'll find it in the upcoming foo bar
release, and much enhanced at that".

Still waiting.

/Lars
--
Lars Fischer, fischer@iesd.auc.dk | It takes an uncommon mind to think of
CS Dept., Aalborg Univ., DENMARK. | these things.  -- Calvin
From: bmueller@mis.mcw.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Printing hangup -- why ??
Date: 26 Aug 92 00:15:24 GMT
Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin

I have a question for some printer/system gurus.

We have a heterogeneous network consisting of a lot of Macs, a Sun, and
a pc. The Macs all talk to a LaserWriter IINT through an EtherWrite
box (Compatible Systems). One Mac runs system 7; the remainder of the
Macs run system 6.0.8. The two Macs in question are A) a Classic with
4MB RAM and a SCSI box (Asante) to connect to our ethernet and B) an
SE/30 with 5MB RAM and ethernet card (also Asante). The system 7 Mac
was not even running today.

When the fellow with the SE/30 prints, he finally reaches a point when
the "little watch comes up" and no output issues from the LaserWriter.
The only cure for this is to restart his machine (after which he will
again reach this point within a number of print jobs). The Classic
seems to work just fine. The SE/30 owner tells me that this happens
with or without background printing on.

In examining the system folder of each, I note that the SE/30 owner has
AppleTalk v 57.0.3 and the classic has AppleTalk v 56. Do we need v 57.
0.3? Is this the cause of the problem? What do you suggest I do in this
case? Color Quickdraw is on both machines.

Thanks in advance.

                                           ...Bob Mueller
                                              bmueller@mis.mcw.edu

BTW - Yes! I used the INSTALLER in both cases!
From: riddle@mathcs.emory.edu (Larry Riddle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: System 7 problem-shutdown reboots instead
Keywords: shutdown,system 7
Date: 2 Sep 92 03:03:06 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS

The publication department at my college recently upgraded
an SE to system 7.0. I received a call from them that when they
choose "shutdown" from the special menu, the Mac reboots instead
of shutting down. I have only had a chance to take a quick look and
couldn't spot anything that might be causing the problem. The only
extensions other than the ones that come with system 7 is
Disinfectant init.

Has anyone experienced a similar problem. Any suggestions on what
I might look for when I get a chance to investigate more closely?
Thanks.

-- 
Larry Riddle        | riddle@mathcs.emory.edu         PREFERRED
Agnes Scott College | {rutgers,gatech}!emory!riddle   UUCP 
Dept of Math        | riddle@emory.bitnet             NON-DOMAIN BITNET
Decatur, GA 30030   | Phone: Voice 404-371-6222, FAX 404-371-6177
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: cyor@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca ( )
Subject: Re: WARNING !
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 03:12:13 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.011957.20763@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, GAYNOR@agvax2.ag.ohio-state.edu (Jim Gaynor) writes:
> In <Btps08.12s@news.udel.edu> johnston@me.udel.edu writes:
> 
> > When I spoke to Third Wave when looking into expansion options
> > for the SE/30, they made a point of telling me that the box
> > doesn't work with the Radius Rocket.  They volunteered the 
> > information both times I called them, because I mentioned that
> > I was interested in an accelerator card.  I find it hard to 
> > believe that they would do otherwise for another customer;
> > it seems more likely that this is a case of miscommunication.
> 
> I've dealt with the folks at Third Wave several times, and they've
> always been quite forthright about the capabilities of what they sell. 
> They usually send me a FAX when their pricing changes, which I then
> give to the local campus conulating center.
> 
> The most recent FAX I got from them (a few months back), had some note
> with it that claimed that the Radius Rocket -would- work in a NB4, but
> only when the NB4 was connected to a IIci.  The main of it said that
> they -believed- it would work on any Mac that had 32-bit clean ROMs
> (ROMs mind you, not MODE32 patched Macs like our SE/30s) but that it
> had only been tested on a IIci.
> 
> I find it -extremely- hard to believe that Second Wave said that the
> NB4 would "turn a IIsi into a IIci."  Then again, I also find
> Christianity hard to believe, so we all know what my opinion is worth.
> <grin>  My bet is that this is indeed a case of miscommunication - on
> the part of both parties.
>

Good luck for you then!  I SWARE they said they had customers who 
tried to connect the IISI with their NB4 and Radius Rocket and
it worked for them.  It is because Radius told me it won't work
so I was EXTRA CARE by asking them about this three or four times.
They also said that it TURNS the IISI into the IIci.
I never received a FAX you mentioned above.

Perhaps if I have been taping them for all of our conversations, I 
would send a copy of the tape to each of you who think it is a miscommunication
and offer a $10000 bet of your agreement with me that they were cheating
after you hear the tape.  Unfortunately, I did not tape them since
I was told it is not good to tape telephone conversation.  I should
have done it so that nobody will be able to defend for them. 


Again, as I mentioned already, SECOND WAVE IS NOT THE SAME AS THIRD WAVE.
Maybe they try to confuse us by making a name similar to a reputable 
company (THIRD WAVE).  I don't want to hear any FIRST or FORTH WAVE
in the future.....
From: guerra@heracles.tis.llnl.gov (Frank Guerra)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: printing bombs
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:05:40 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

In article <fred-mckenzie-260892095858@128.159.169.79>, fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov (Fred McKenzie) writes:
|> In article <dr_mcgee-250892150927@pythagoras.pnl.gov>, dr_mcgee@pnl.gov
|> (David R. McGee) wrote:
|> > Serious problems occuring on our network here, as of late. Printing
|> > problems
|> > from assorted different applications
|> 
|> David-
|> 
|> As the Macintosh family has grown and newer versions of system software
|> evolved, We have also experienced printing problems similar to yours.  Here
|> is a summary of what I have found in our area:
|> 
|> 1.  Newer machines use System 7 printer drivers, older ones still have the
|> System 6 drivers.  Both printing to the same Laser Printer, causes hangups
|> requiring the printer to be re-initialized.  System 6.0.8 comes with
|> drivers from System 7, which also are compatible with earlier System
|> 6.0.X's.  Replacing drivers solves this problem.
|> 
(stuff deleted)
|> 
|> fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov

This is something that one of our sysadm types has been looking at. We've had 
a number of problems relieved by making sure that Macs using the same printer, 
use the same LaserWriter driver. Well, System 6.0.8 comes with the same driver
as System 7. Unfortunately, System 7 with Tuner 1.1.1 comes with a new 
LaserWriter driver; 7.1.1. The question we now have is whether this driver can
be used with 6.0.8. The Tuner's installer cannot be used under 6.0.8 and we're 
not sure about just copying the file over. Anyone have an answer to this one?

Frank M. Guerra
fmguerra@llnl.gov
From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Too many fonts in System 7???
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:07:38 GMT
Reply-To: geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Amos Tuck School

In <714642863.F00004@csource.oz.au> Frank.O'connor@f386.n634.z3.fidonet.org (Frank O'connor) writes:

>Whatever happened to the System 7 Lite Apple was gonna release for all of us
>peasants who don't need the networking, file sharing and other abilities that
>go with the (slow and over blown) version we're currently using?

Well, the Tuner conserves a great deal of memory if you disable AppleTalk
and reboot. Filesharing and other such luxuries can easily be avoided when
installing the System Software via the installer and 'customizing.'

Apple hasn't released a System 7 Lite but any competent user can create
one with a little effort.

-Geoff
--
geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU - Computing Support Consultant, Tuck School of Business

  "Right now, I am trying to overthrow the Government of the United States."
		-Patrick "Hatrack" Buchanan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Alan D.)
Subject: Re: Empty folder not empty and can't be trashed...traced.
Keywords: vantage delete locked in use trash
Reply-To: aland@cs.brandeis.edu
Organization: As little as possible
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 01:10:09 GMT

alen@crash.cts.com (Alen Shapiro) writes:

>Seems to be my week for discoveries!!!

>If you have Vantage (commercial McSink) 1.61 you may have seen this
>problem...

I don't have it, but seem to remember something about a "Vantage
Opener" application which would 'bounce' the Vantage file to the DA...

>Create a new folder, copy a file of type/creator TEXT/McSk into it,
>double-click on the file in the new folder, quit the Vantage editor
>(command-Q), drag the new folder to the trash. Empty the trash and
>see a "can't delete folder cos it is locked or in-use" message. The
>new folder in the trash is now empty and even restarting the finder
>(from macsbug) does not clear the in-use flag. Reboot the mac or
>dismount/remount the volume containing the new folder to enable you
>to empty the trash.

My guess is that Vantage Opener is keeping tabs on the file...  If you
quit that, it might help.  If this isn't the problem, I have no
idea...

	-=Alan
From: finkel@sirius.llnl.gov (Bob Finkel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: PowerBook and MAC Extended Keyboard. OK?
Keywords: PowerBook
Date: 2 Sep 92 00:10:15 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.mac
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

I've recently started using a PB170. Although it's an improvement
in many ways, I miss the keypad on me SE for data entry. Is there
any problem with connecting the SE's extended keyboard to the PB170?
Would power drain be a problem. Do I need to do something to 
distinguish between the two keyborads.

Thanks for any advice
From: iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu (Jerry Wilcox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Compression Software
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Date: 27 Aug 1992 23:33:57 GMT
Organization: University of California, Office of the President
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ajax.ucop.edu

In article <1992Aug27.225430.16516@leland.Stanford.EDU>,
ehle@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ehle) wrote:
> 
> Will someone explain to me as broadly (but still as usefully) as
> possible what the difference is between Salient's two compression
> packages is - Disk Doubler and Auto Doubler? If I am trying to
> increase the capacity of my 20 meg SE hard drive, which program do I
> want to get?
> 
> 
> -- 
> 		
> 				Rob Ehle
> 				Stanford University Press
The two packages are somewhat similar, but you can use either one or both.
Basically, the difference is that AutoDoubler works in a "automatic" mode
periodically scanning the volumes for which it has been activated, looking
for files that have not been compressed and which have not been marked to
be left alone. When it finds such a file, it compresses it. Via a control
panel, you have control of (1) how long the mac needs to be inactive before
scanning starts, (2) what percentage of free space you are trying to
achieve, (3) how long a file needs to be "unused" before it becomes
eligible for compression, and (4) which specific files/folders should not
be compressed (under System 7 you can also specify certain labels which
designate files/folders which should not be compressed). Note that AD
*never* automatically compresses anything in the System Folder.

DiskDoubler offers manual compression. You select the file(s)/folder(s) to
be compressed. DD also offers some additional functionality in that it can
create archives and groups of compressed files.

In either case the compression is transparent to applications that open
files via the normal open mechanisms (there are some programs which do not
and for which files cannot be compressed). Since the finder is, for this
purpose, an application, launching a compressed application by
double-clicking or other means, expands the application automatically. AD
and DD differ in the way this is done: AD expands the application into RAM
without expanding the file on disk, DD expands the application on disk,
launches it, then recompresses it when you quit. Same is true with other
files. DD does know when AD is running so the two don't interfere with each
other.

I hope this helps. I use both AD and DD on my Mac at home and they have
been a big help to me. If you have specific questions, I'd be more than
happy to try and answer them.

-----------
Jerry Wilcox - iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu
All opinions expressed are MINE -- I'd have a different job if the
University wanted me to speak for it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: lfk@eastman1.mit.edu (Lee F. Kolakowski)
Subject: SendPS
Organization: Mass. Inst. of Tech., Dept. of Chemistry
Distribution: comp
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 15:34:45 GMT


Is there a version of SendPS which spools to the print spooler in
system 7 and actually works under system7. The version of SendPS
I have is dated 1986 version 1.1

Thanks
--
Frank Kolakowski

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