HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: troy@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU (Troy Rollo)
Subject: Re: Supidity of the Lambs ! (Services)
Organization: University of New South Wales
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 10:10:06 GMT

From article <1992Nov17.143434.22778@njitgw.njit.edu>, by lcm1501@hertz.njit.edu (Lawrence C. Mc Abee):
> 	Speaking about wasting bandwidth, I would like to thank you Titus
>  for taking so much care in not doing that yourself. That lovely wall message
>  to all of *.edu about some idiots birthday really touched me, and was well
>  worth the HUGE waste in bandwidth.

Oh yeah, real huge. It happens to be less than the bandwidth taken up by
a single MODE command. Now, with a bot generating MODE commands willy-nilly,
that bot is likely to waste far, far more bandwidth.

> 			Lawrence C Mc Abee.
> 			(say NO to idiots)

I couldn't agree more. Get a clue before you post.
--
__________________________________________________________________________
troy@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU	Overworked, overcommited and always multitasking.
Patron of SNUB (Say NO to Unattended Bots)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: mark@coombs.anu.edu.au (Mark)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: And on the subject of Internet bandwidth...
Date: 23 Nov 92 05:00:38 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2
Organisation: Wassat?!

beh@acs.nntp-read.bu.edu (Bruce Howells) writes:

>but also logging some pretty intensive time telnetted to csd.bu.edu...
>(Mentally computes how far away a site has to be to get a 700 mS ping time)
>gaak...  Crossing lots of wire and gateways, Tim?

>Lots of wire...  Lots of gateways... Lots of packets.

Not necessarily. I read a while ago that the .mil net isnt exactly state of
the art speed wise, and a lot of it is "slow" 56 K links from way back.
I cant remember the exact reasons, something about reliability or similar 
but it would account for any largish ping times.

Anyway if the guy likes #bondage let him be :) He wont mind next time he's
captured and staked to the ground :)

Mark
be tied down a lot next time
From: dalewis@acsu.buffalo.edu (Douglas A. Lewis)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Avalog arrested....
Date: 20 Nov 92 04:15:33 GMT
Organization: UB

mark@coombs.anu.edu.au (Mark) writes:

>Wake up and smell the cornflakes loser.

>In case anyone else missed it Ive reposted it here. And in case he tries it
>again I'll state that this article is to me, complete and correct, (least the
>bits I wrote) and I do not wish it to be cancelled. K? I explicitly forbid 
>anal-log (aka Darren Reed, aka Avalon, aka FuckHead aka ShitForBrains aka
>Avalog) from cancelling it.

>Onwards... (You can tell I'm enjoying this cant you :)

I wish somebody would shut you up.. or sue you for defemation of character. I
thought it was funny, and I'm sure a lot of other people did to.. but Avalon
obviously did not want it posted. If you had some sense of common decency, you
wouldn't have reposted it. I guess that is asking too much of you though..

Dough
From: dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Doug McLaren)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: [*] Irc Statistics (Idle)
Date: 20 Nov 92 22:01:34 GMT
Organization: Doug's House of Disco

In article <BxrzvK.Lz@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dms50304@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Darkman) writes:

>You don't have to hack the client to adjust your idle time shown.  A simple
>/on ctcp can adjust what you see very easily.

Bzzzt wrong ... try again.  Since you are probably talking ircII, I will talk
ircII.  You know, you really should try checking things in IRC before you
talk about them here... this is at least the second time you've goofed.
If you put in a /on ctcp finger reply, they will get TWO replies from you,
one being the real one, and one being yours.  You can't disable the default
ctcp replies that are built into the client.  These include finger and some
others.

-- 
----------------------- \  Zippy says:
Doug McLaren,            \  I have seen these EGG EXTENDERS in my Supermarket..
DemoN on IRC              \  .. I have read the INSTRUCTIONS...
dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu  \
-------------------------- /
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: mkwg9074@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (M. K. Weaver)
Subject: Re: A new (very simple) bot solution
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 01:57:17 GMT

troy@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU (Troy Rollo) writes:

>"I am that prick"


	[UGH]

	See previous post in another thread about
	"Getting along"...<I can look it up if you want>

	bfn,
	Monica
-- 
"When you sit with a nice girl for two hours, you think it is only a minute.
But when you sit on a hot stove for a minute, you think it's two hours.
THAT'S RELATIVITY." (Albert Einstein)
                 "My name is Monica. Got a minute?"
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: pdh@netcom.com (Phil Howard )
Subject: Re: Bots - how to get rid of them
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 06:56:07 GMT

thecure@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (matthew aardvarkious) writes:

>troy@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU (Troy Rollo) writes:
>
>>The first thing you should do if you want to get rid of bots on IRC,
>>is send a flame to the champion of bots a year ago, danielce@ee.mu.oz.au
>>with contents something like the following:
>
>WHY !?#!@ Cripes man, get a grip on this side of the planet and 
>come back down to earth. That attitude deserves not only to be tied
>up with stout pieces of razor wire, but stuck in a cage with a rubber
>band for conversation. 

Is *THIS* the kind of "grip" you are talking about?

#sanctuary JeffBot14 H   jdportwi@maxwell3.ee.mtu.edu (2 !id Bot)
#sanctuary JeffBot13 H   jdportwi@maxwell3.ee.mtu.edu (2 !id Bot)
#sanctuary JeffBot20 H   jdportwi@maxwell3.ee.mtu.edu (2 !id Bot)
#sanctuary JeffBot17 H   jdportwi@maxwell3.ee.mtu.edu (2 !id Bot)
#sanctuary JeffBot15 H   jdportwi@maxwell3.ee.mtu.edu (2 !id Bot)
#sanctuary JeffBot12 H   jdportwi@maxwell3.ee.mtu.edu (2 !id Bot)
#sanctuary JeffBot2  H   jdportwi@maxwell3.ee.mtu.edu (2 !id Bot)
#sanctuary JeffBot9  H   jdportwi@maxwell3.ee.mtu.edu (2 !id Bot)
#sanctuary JeffBot19 H   jdportwi@maxwell3.ee.mtu.edu (2 !id Bot)
#sanctuary JeffBot11 H   jdportwi@maxwell3.ee.mtu.edu (2 !id Bot)
#sanctuary JeffBot10 H   jdportwi@maxwell3.ee.mtu.edu (2 !id Bot)
#sanctuary JeffBot3  H   jdportwi@maxwell3.ee.mtu.edu (2 !id Bot)
#sanctuary JeffBot4  H   jdportwi@maxwell3.ee.mtu.edu (2 !id Bot)
#sanctuary JeffBot8  H   jdportwi@maxwell3.ee.mtu.edu (2 !id Bot)
#sanctuary JeffBot18 H   jdportwi@maxwell3.ee.mtu.edu (2 !id Bot)
#sanctuary JeffBot5  H   jdportwi@maxwell3.ee.mtu.edu (2 !id Bot)
#sanctuary JeffBot16 H   jdportwi@maxwell3.ee.mtu.edu (2 !id Bot)
#sanctuary JeffBot7  H   jdportwi@maxwell3.ee.mtu.edu (2 !id Bot)
#sanctuary JeffBot6  H   jdportwi@maxwell3.ee.mtu.edu (2 !id Bot)
#sanctuary JeffBot1  H   jdportwi@maxwell3.ee.mtu.edu (2 !id Bot)
*          LedZep    H   jdportwi@maxwell3.ee.mtu.edu (2 !id Wish I was there)
-- 
/***********************************************************************\
| Phil Howard  ---  KA9WGN  ---  pdh@netcom.com   |   "The problem with |
| depending on government is that you cannot depend on it" - Tony Brown |
\***********************************************************************/
From: avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: This is the point!! (was bots-how to get rid of them)
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:42:20 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2

Dweiss@chiba.hughes.american.edu (Dan Weiss ) writes:

>In article <1992Nov17.065607.11809@netcom.com>, pdh@netcom.com (Phil Howard
>) wrote:
> 
>> #sanctuary JeffBot14 H   jdportwi@maxwell3.ee.mtu.edu (2 !id Bot)
>> #sanctuary JeffBot13 H   jdportwi@maxwell3.ee.mtu.edu (2 !id Bot)
>> #sanctuary JeffBot20 H   jdportwi@maxwell3.ee.mtu.edu (2 !id Bot)
>> #sanctuary JeffBot17 H   jdportwi@maxwell3.ee.mtu.edu (2 !id Bot)
>> #sanctuary JeffBot15 H   jdportwi@maxwell3.ee.mtu.edu (2 !id Bot)
>> #sanctuary JeffBot12 H   jdportwi@maxwell3.ee.mtu.edu (2 !id Bot)

>[The rest of the 20 bots deleted]

>I don't know if the people advocating more bots are just ignorant of what
>is going on, or if they are just praying for the downfall of the irc
>network.

>Channels like #sanctuary are becomming more and more frequent.  As more
>users aquire these forking attack bots (I suspect that is what the Jeffbots
>are), we will see the next phase in the irc.bot.arms.race.  

Forking bots are nasty since they can possibly stop other users using
server(s) - they can only handle a finite number of connections and the
number of possible servers a client can connect to is also finite.

Perhaps those of you who see these listless bots could email the admins
of the servers they connect to and ask that they be K-lined so that
normal users of IRC may use their server without any degradation in
service.

>I have no idea what would happen to the irc if every user decided to login
>21 times simultaniously.  I have asked several times for info on the burden
>of bots, but no one seems to know or care.

The real burden is hard to quantify.  It is enough to recongize that it
is an excess.

>IRCops who hang on #tw and don't see other channels: join #hottub one
>night.  You will see battling bots fly into +b loops, banning each other in
>every way imaginable (+bbb lamer@lamer l*a*m*e*r@lamer...etc.).  You will
>see some users use 20-30 bots, all /msging at once, to flood other bots off
>the irc.  

Actually, we do.  We're just not stupid enough to join that channel any
more.  When people stop listening to what you're saying there is little
anyone can do.

If people are really interested in having serious conversations then the
channel inhabitants will eventually realize that #hottub won't go anywhere
if the bots dont go.  What the "SNUB" group should be doing is waging
their campaigns on the problem channels rather than in alt.irc.

The next step in the flood race will be won by the next server release.

avalon
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: dms50304@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Darkman)
Subject: Re: An idea!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 10:52:57 GMT

gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:

[blah deleted]
>: -- 
>: --- Daryn Sharp   Darkman@uiuc.edu
>You used one line 2 many there. Remember "Say no to disclaimers"

Geesh, get a life.  My newsreader does that.  I think you use one line too
many in all your posts but that's another story...
-- 
--- Daryn Sharp   Darkman@uiuc.edu
From: mkwg9074@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (M. K. Weaver)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: My time is up...
Date: 16 Nov 92 06:35:41 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


	okay okay so I haven't quite left alt.irc
	But I have left irc. :)

	bfn <still using this too>
	Monica
-- 
"When you sit with a nice girl for two hours, you think it is only a minute.
But when you sit on a hot stove for a minute, you think it's two hours.
THAT'S RELATIVITY." (Albert Einstein)
                 "My name is Monica. Got a minute?"
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: williams@ug.cs.dal.ca (Nevin E. Williams)
Subject: Re: Canadians take note
Keywords: tres amusant
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 16:57:29 GMT

<sigh>  All those witty /kill comments and /wallops...   *floooosh* *gurgle*
right down the toilet.  Gee, and just when I thought Canada was getting ahead
in the game.
	Nevster


(can we put a qualifier on British Columbia?   Perhaps on rsoft.bc.ca users?)
From: titus@coombs.anu.edu.au (titus chiu)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Supidity of the Lambs !
Date: 20 Nov 1992 00:19:16 GMT
Organization: Coombs Computing Unit, Australian National University, Canberra.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user on Coombs at ANU. The
              opinions expressed are those of the user and not necessarily
              those of the Australian National University.

gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:
>/set exec_protection off
>/on -notice nickserv /exec -msg echo help
>/msg nickserv help
>
>Now watch him flood... (this one was tested on convserv because NickServ was
>down when I tried it, but it should have the same effect on NicServ as on
>ConvServ, or what?)

listen up thick head, as pointed out by numerous others, that would be a
'programming' error on your part (to induce a loop) (ever wondered why you
exec_protection is called a protection? tho i must admit there are other
ways around it, but nickserv/notices were designed to stop looping, no one
says it is a perfect implementation, but at least it is 'correct' in the
sense it is doing it the correct way (using notices) where as your stupid
i-op-my-master-and-i-keep-his-channel-open-and-sometimes-i-even-take-msgs
bot talks and wonder around channels replying to cutsie phrases in PRIVMSG
is considered 'incorrect' and dangerous.

>Well. if we are going to take your bullshit about bots with the potential to
>flood the channel being removed, of course we would have to look at other flood
>sources, too...

if you honestly believe that bots flooding the net isnt a problem, then you
are even more stupid than i imagined, and i can imagine you to be pretty
stupid. Once again i say, plhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhease, get some clues.

>Gard / say...

titus
(Say NO to unattended bots)
--
titus chiu                                   -- email: ---------------------
                                             ---- titus@coombs.anu.edu.au --
  dont drink and drive home                  ---- titus@turing.ORG ---------
  get stoned and fly home.                   -------------------------------
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen)
Subject: Re: Bots, WarBots, Fun?
Organization: MRIH, More og Romsdal Ingeniorhogskole
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 17:43:16 GMT

Jardar Eggesboe Abrahamsen (jardar@swix.ifi.unit.no) wrote:
: In article <1992Nov16.124657.29387@ugle.unit.no> gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:
: >/Gard - Say no to unattended disclaimers.
: 
:  :-P
: 
: Essutendall alskall udall assepall ejdall aarnall udall akkasnall om
: orejball innjball aapall alt.irc.
: 

I guess what you MEANT was...

Essutendall alskall udall assepall ejdall aarnall udall akkasnall om
orejbrall innjdall aapall alt.irc.

And that message shouldn't have been in Swedish in the first place!

/Gard

Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen)
Subject: Re: Supidity of the Lambs ! (Services)
Organization: MRIH, More og Romsdal Ingeniorhogskole
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 13:31:40 GMT

titus chiu (titus@coombs.anu.edu.au) wrote:
: avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed) writes:
: >herm@coombs.anu.edu.au (Herman H. Fredriksson) writes:
: >
: >>No, actually, the main difference is that NoteServ actually provides a 
: >>service to a large amount of users. The "idiot bots", are mostly
: >>self serving vantiy pieces of shit, used to boost the egos of their
: >>weenie owners and compensate for their small penis size.
: >
: >Well, if they do nothing else, they save on noteserv/nickserv traffic
: >(Germany doesnt havere the worlds fastest IP network by any means).
: >
: >Both of which can be a victim to rather nasty lag.
: 
: which is exactly why local services is needed, as someone already pointed
: out.
:
Mmmm.... As I understand it, wouldn't local services be a waste of bandwidth?
 

/Gard - "Say no to disclaimers"
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen)
Subject: Re: Bots, WarBots, Fun?
Organization: MRIH, More og Romsdal Ingeniorhogskole
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 16:21:29 GMT

titus chiu (titus@coombs.anu.edu.au) wrote:
: gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:
: 
: >from samson, vi (which is the silly editor tin uses on unix1) does no longer
: >recognize the cursor keys, and editing anything is impossible. I can at best
: 
: just because you don't know how to use vi doesn't make it silly, and i dont
: see why anybody would want to know how you telnet from one place to another
: on irc anyway.
: 
Vi is awful anyhow, with a load of escape key commands. I mean seriously:
Escape x for delete? It's rediculous. And I wan't telnetting from irc, but
from the account that had a working version of screen. Thanks to the help
given in one of these articles, the problem about the cursor keys has been
solved, but that doesn't mean that vi is a great editor. No way! I prefer
emacs.
: titus chiu                                   -- email: ---------------------
:                                              ---- titus@coombs.anu.edu.au --
:   dont drink and drive home                  ---- titus@turing.ORG ---------
:   get stoned and fly home.                   -------------------------------
Gard - say ... to ...
From: titus@coombs.anu.edu.au (titus chiu)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Calling upon the creators.
Date: 21 Nov 1992 01:12:42 GMT
Organization: Coombs Computing Unit, Australian National University, Canberra.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user on Coombs at ANU. The
              opinions expressed are those of the user and not necessarily
              those of the Australian National University.

mkwg9074@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (M. K. Weaver) writes:

>	Somewhere in the back of my mind I hear titus saying <correct
>	me if I am wrong please titus> That if the creators of irc 
>	wanted people to have automated scripts to 'give an atmosphere'
>	they would have created a mud instead.	

I think someone else already said it.

>>ps: i havent said this before, i have nothing against ircII, in fact i think
>>it is a great client <just practicing censorship, mkw>

eh?

>	Monica

titus
(Say NO to unattended bots)
--
titus chiu                                   -- email: ---------------------
                                             ---- titus@coombs.anu.edu.au --
  dont drink and drive home                  ---- titus@turing.ORG ---------
  get stoned and fly home.                   -------------------------------
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: mkwg9074@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (M. K. Weaver)
Subject: Singing in the Rain (was: Supidity of the Lambs!)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 00:59:13 GMT

bolwidt@fwi.uva.nl (Erwin Bolwidt) writes:
>gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:
>>Herman H. Fredriksson (herm@acme.etsu.edu) wrote:
>>: gardabr@unix1.MRIH.NO (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:
>>: >titus chiu (titus@coombs.anu.edu.au) wrote:
>>: >: gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:


In alt.irc you all write (and write and write and write...)

        Talk about floods...

        <puts on galoshes and rain slicker>
        <opens up umbrella>
        <starts humming...ba da da da, ba da da da da...>
        <looks around for "Noah and his Ark">

	In the hopes of letting a "Smile become your umbrella"
	I changed the topic to another "movie". I also want to
	point out that I have found a quite enjoyable bot to
	play with...in a manor of speaking. 

	WHAT BOT? (you may or may not ask) Since I didn't ask
	permission to advertise, I won't state the bot's name.
	But maybe this joke will give you a clue...and I am
	sure most of my friends are already clueful... :)

QUESTION: Why couldn't they play cards on the Ark?

ANSWER:   Because Noah was standing on the deck.


	bfn,
	Monica

	<p.s. I used both () and <> now aren't you proud!>
-- 
"When you sit with a nice girl for two hours, you think it is only a minute.
But when you sit on a hot stove for a minute, you think it's two hours.
THAT'S RELATIVITY." (Albert Einstein)
                 "My name is Monica. Got a minute?"
From: avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Global Birthday Greetings
Date: 18 Nov 92 11:53:25 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2
Followups-To: alt.stupidity

troy@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU (Troy Rollo) writes:

>From article <1992Nov17.143434.22778@njitgw.njit.edu>, by lcm1501@hertz.njit.edu (Lawrence C. Mc Abee):
>> 	Speaking about wasting bandwidth, I would like to thank you Titus
>>  for taking so much care in not doing that yourself. That lovely wall message
>>  to all of *.edu about some idiots birthday really touched me, and was well
>>  worth the HUGE waste in bandwidth.

>Oh yeah, real huge. It happens to be less than the bandwidth taken up by
>a single MODE command. Now, with a bot generating MODE commands willy-nilly,
>that bot is likely to waste far, far more bandwidth.

There are more clients from *.edu servers/hosts at most any time of
day than there are servers in total.  Consider, there are at least 50
servers which match *.edu and one of those has (at times) had one tenth
of the total number of clients on IRC attached to it.

If what titus says is true (about it being a global message and not a wall)
then you're assuming he didnt send it to other host masks too...

Anyway, do some maths and see which takes up more bandwidth: a single mode
command or a message sent to *.edu.

avalon
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: troy@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU (Troy Rollo)
Subject: Re: A new (very simple) bot solution
Organization: University of New South Wales
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 06:00:42 GMT

From article <avalon.722063853@coombs>, by avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed):
> I don't know where it would end though except that pre8 will probably
> be released in a better state than any of the other pre-releases or
> 2.1.5h for that matter.

I should certainly hope so. That's what releasing new versions is all about -
making each better than the old one. At least ircII has kept true to this
aim.

Anyway, the reason ircII has a chance to improve in pre8 and beyond is
that I have always encorouged participation in the development by others,
and even created a mailing list on which they *could* share ideas.
(That is, a mailing list for developers only). I only ever rejected
a submission once, from memory, and that was because it came in a single
patch that contained more modifications that were applicable only
to that one site than were applicable to the rest of the userbase.
If the portion that was applicable to the rest of the userbase had
been submitted separately, I would have accepted it.

On the other hand, you feel so threatened by others that you have
actively discouraged others from participating. You're so scared
shitless by the thought that others might have found problems
in your code or be able to fix something you overlooked or couldn't
fix that you have rejected patches that fix genuine bugs (and do nothing
other than fix genuine bugs). In fact, if you hadn't been so busy
defending an ego which was inflated to bursting point, ircd might
be in far better shape  than it is today.

Unlike you, I do not feel threatened by the participation of others.

Your overinflated ego is so fragile due to your pathetic little
insecurities that all it would take to shatter it is one prick.

"I am that prick"
--
__________________________________________________________________________
troy@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU	Overworked, overcommited and always multitasking.
Patron of SNUB (Say NO to Unattended Bots)
From: ckp2n@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Christina Powell)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: And on the subject of Internet bandwidth...
Date: 23 Nov 92 02:29:33 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

beh@acs.nntp-read.bu.edu  writes:
> 
> Good to know that tax money we (or at least those of us enough in the real
> world to be paying taxes - and worrying how to pay taxes...) spend for
> Internet research...  spend to make sure the US keeps leading the research
> effort into (horrors!) useful uses for technology is going to exactly where
> it was meant to...
> 
> And it's *REALLY* comforting to know just how vigilant our Nation's armed
> forces are...   Hope nothing important comes up while you are on #bondage.
> 

Nah, I feel alot safer thinking that our Armed Forces are busy on
irc.  Think of what they COULD be getting up to....

Chris (who has many years experience as a military dependent) 
Newsgroups: alt.irc