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From: jereese@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (jean reese)
Subject: Re: SB: Cruz' history
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:43:27 GMT

In article <1jm7mmINNotb@meaddata.meaddata.com> carolh@meaddata.com (Carol Hickmott) writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.200948.4345@zeus.ieee.org>, sbookey@ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey) writes:
>|> Chip is Tori and Cruz' son.  She was married to Mason, who knew that Cruz
>
>didn't Tori have a crush on Cruz and he didn't return her feelings?  and, wasn't he in some drugged state(the drugs were given to him by Tori for some
>pain he was in?) when they made love?  i seem to remember he thought Tori was
>Eden...help me here...it's been a long time...does this ring any bells with
>anyone???	

THAT'S IT!!! I was trying to remember what it was that caused Tori to
become pregnant with Cruz's kid, and that was it. Thanks.

Jean



>
>|> was the father before Cruz did.  Chip is supposed to be short for
>|> Channing Capwell III--family tradition.  All the bastards  get the 
>|> family name. 
>|> 
>
>-- 
>Carol Hickmott                               Product Certification Engineering  
>Mead Data Central                                               (513) 865-7164
>P.O. Box 933                                               carolh@meaddata.com
>Dayton, OH  45401                                    ...!uunet!meaddata!carolh


-- 
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	purely physical effect on the  human temperament  would most 
	beneficially influence the lot of mankind." - Albert Einstein
	++++++++++++++++jereese@silver.ucs.indiana.edu+++++++++++++++
From: leela@wpi.WPI.EDU (Leela Keshavan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL:  Roman and Marlena's past
Date: 27 Jan 93 14:18:31 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <1993Jan26.192556.19753@linus.mitre.org> kvt@willow.mitre.org writes:


>to be 15, is this right?  Was Carrie 4 when the twins
>were born?  Sorry, I didn't watch back then.

I don't know exact dates or anything, but when Carrie came to the
show, The twins were not around, Roman and Marlena weren't
married yet, and Carrie was FIVE.  

What irritates me about age-the-twins is that: Roman and Marlena are
still reeling from their long absences from Salem and each other.  So
according to the time frame of the show, they really haven't been
back very long.  Yet when they came back, the twins were little
children and had to be gently told the whole story...


It just doesn't make any sense.   It makes less sense than usual.

And where the hell is Max? In college?? IN a retirement home???


Leela
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From: harding@sun444.nas.nasa.gov (Steve Harding)
Subject: Re: ATWT:  Dances with Oilman
Organization: NASA/Ames Research Center
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 22:05:35 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.201814.12467@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> lfreeman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Fluffy Sheep Woman) writes:
>In article <1993Jan21.185555.13145@nas.nasa.gov> harding@sun444.nas.nasa.gov (Steve Harding) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan21.175407.9712@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> lfreeman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Fluffy Sheep Woman) writes:
>>
>>yeah, I wish the writers wouldn't make this story so damn one sided.  I *want*
>>>to root for the navaho, but the writers are making them look like fools, and
>>>making just a *tad* difficult....
>>
>>It's Navajo.  With a "j".
>>
>do forgive me.  I know how to spell navajo.  I also mistype sometimes.
>(if you'll notice, h & j are right next to each other on the keyboard...)
>I'll run a spell checker on my next post... :-)
>
>(sorry if this is a little sarcastic, but I felt like that was a bit of
>an unnecessary flame.  it's been 6 monthes since I last posted; it'll probably
>be another 6 monthes now...)
>

No flame intended.  Wait until the pill cart comes around.

s
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work:harding@nas.nasa.gov   play:steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (408.252.0578)
              A prince trapped in the body of a dirty old man.
From: shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan R. Hagan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AW: Squeeze Me? Did anyone see that?
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:41:17 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

leela@wpi.WPI.EDU (Leela Keshavan) writes:


>I didn't see the episode in question... but I believe
>there is a stupid line from Wayne's World which
>substitutes "excuse me, I beg your pardon?' to be
>'Squeeze me, I'm baking powder'.  


Yes.  I'm familiear with the line from Wayne's World - stupid is
a matter of opinion.  

The line is a very old gag we used to pull on teachers in high school.
I'm very familiar with it which is why it cracked me up when Ryan said
it.

>Could have been a joke on the audience or something, and thats why
>Britt didn't respond.

Yes.  I think it was an ad lib, other wise Brett would have at least
reacted.

-- 
Susan R. Hagan (shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu) 
Publications Coordinator - User Services
Rutgers University Computing Services
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From: melunney@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Mike Lunney)
Subject: Re: GL: Trivia #15
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:20:13 GMT

In article <52592.sheila.mcmahon.3@nd.edu> sheila.mcmahon.3@nd.edu writes:
>4) What is Ed Bauer's middle name?
>
Is it Frederick?  What is his full name anyway?  I know I've read it in
one of the histories/trivia postings.  Speaking of Ed, did anyone catch
the episode during the week of Maureen's death when Ross called him
"Edward Bauer"?  Do you think the current bunch of writers even know his
real name?  Do you think Ed even knows his real name? :-)

Mike
melunney@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca
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From: "T. Burgess "New Year's Resolutions 'CHEAP' While supplies last"" <tburgess@us.oracle.com>
Subject: LOV:  Yes...we can have a yearbook too!
Original-To: amcnet
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Original-Cc: jeep
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 08:04:13 PST




Are you interested in having a Loving Group Yearbook??

I know someone who has successfully put together over 2 successful
years for ATWT group and is doing a 2nd one for AMC

He will do the yearbook for LOV.

The cost will be determined by how many people are interested.
Normally the cost is $20 but since we are a smaller group it might
cost about $15 to $20  Postage for the books is normally included.

Each person submits 2 pictures and a Paragraph about themselves...and whatever
else they want to say.

It will be formatted into an 8 1/2 by 11 inch page.

If you have pictures with you and a loving star send those....he will make
a special page with fans and stars ....

There will be games such as crosswords, word searches...and mazes.

He then puts them in a binder of sorts and will mail it to you.  Postage is
normally included in the price of the book.

He can also do a black and white copy of the yearbook.....I prefer color...
I just love my AMC one!!

So what do you all say??  Anyone else out there interested??

Let me know.    tburgess@oracle.com
From: mike@scbked.larc.nasa.gov (Michael S warner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: ATWT: Trivia #13 (re-post)
Date: 21 Jan 1993 20:08:28 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: scbked.larc.nasa.gov

In article <34184.sheila.mcmahon.3@nd.edu> sheila.mcmahon.3@nd.edu writes:
>I haven't seen too many replies to Trivia #13 yet, so I'm wondering if
>people saw it. Since I look forward to everyone's witty responses every
>week, I decided to re-post this weeks trivia questions to give everyone one
>last chance before I post the answers next week.
>
>Here goes...
>
>
>1) What was the name of the man whose baby Marcy Breen aborted?

Gregory Something
>
>
>2) What was the name of Betsy and Steve's daughter?

Danielle -- about the only child in soapdom not to go through some
miraculous spurts of growth (PVGD for you AMC'ers)

>3) Who was Betsy and Steve's daughter named after?

Never thought about it, but presumably her father DAn Stewart.  Had he
died recently when Dani was born?
>
>
>4) What is the name of Tom and Margo's song?

"if you say my eyes are beautiful"
>
>
>5) What is Hal and Barbara's song?

"the wind beneath my flaring nostrils"
>
>
>6) Who was in the delivery room with Sierra when Bryant was born?

Tonio helped deliver Bryant, thinking he was the father until Audrey
Samuals, obstetrician extraordinaire, said "sorry, bud, it wasn't you"
>
>
>7) Josh Landry beat up Tonio Reyes outside whose hotel room?

Lillith McKecknie's!
 >
>8) Where did Holden and Julie make love the night Aaron was conceived?

Her pad, the Moanin' Sleaza penthouse (I only know since I recently saw
the flashback)
>
>9) Which of the following men has Emily Stewart NOT slept with?
>   (HINT: There may be more than one answer)
>       a) Kirk Anderson
>       b) Andy Dixon
>       f) Duncan McKechnie
>       l) EtTuMike (-sigh-- at least for the RealEasy, not FauxEasy)
>       m) Jeep
>       n) McDano

I was trying to think if there were any men on the show who she
was actually blood related to, but I can't think of anyone, 
so why is anyone on that list?!  At least she and Mama Snooz haven't shared any
men yet, as happenend with Monica and Mama Corinne Lawrence and Lucinda/
Sierra and Iva/Enema.  Let's be realistic people!  Who in the world goes
out with their parents' ex's?!!!
>
>
>10) What was the topic of the very first Patterns show?

Kim's or yours, Irish?  As I recall Iva was your first guest talking
about LIES.

But wasn't Iva the first guest on Kim's too, talking about rape? 
I also remember Patterns essentially saving some girls life...help
me out here, IGoT
>
>Enjoy,
>Irish

EtTuMike
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From: anita@mks.com (Anita Amaro-Ward)
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN: Crimes Against Women and Children
Organization: Mortice Kern Systems Inc., Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:33:11 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.134553.5347@oz.plymouth.edu> patstew@oz.plymouth.edu (Pat Steward) writes:
>In article <1993Jan25.025413.27334@ntmtv> robin@ntmtv.UUCP (Robin Coutellier) writes:
>>
>>Maybe this is not the right group for this, but the subject is being
>>discussed, so I'll join in.  This is a subject that has been on my mind
>
>Robin, honey, this is the right group for *ANY* subject.  Who could
>ask for a more supportive buncha people?
>
>>I have a theory that by the time a woman reaches the
>>age of 20, she has probably been the victim of some form of sexual activity
>>without her consent or has been followed in a threatening manner.  She has
>>been:
>
>Pat's personal list:
>>       - Fondled
>Yup.
>>       - Followed
>Yes indeedy.
>>       - Made the target audience of a male exposing himself and/or
>>         masterbating
>Definitely.
>>              - Watched while in a state of undress
>For sure.
>>              - Raped
>>              - Beaten or killed
>Not yet, thank the Force.
>


	Date rape, high school, though back in 1975, who knew? But
	that's definitely what it was. Hasn't had any disastrous
	effects on the rest of my life, but I get more pissed off now
	than I did then. Somehow, back then I perceived it as my fault.

>>What's frustrating is that many people, some women included, don't
>>understand how violated and frightened a woman feels when these things
>>happen.  I told my mother about the guy who made the tongue statement,
>>and she told me that that kind of thing was going to happen to me all my
>>life because I had "bedroom eyes".  That was when I was _13_!
>
>AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Am I glad that attitudes have changed since our mothers' day!
>
>>live or hang out - it happens EVERYWHERE.  The only reason he doesn't
>>realize or believe it happens so much is because he's a guy and he doesn't
>>have to worry about it and I was only his 2nd girlfriend, so he didn't
>>hear other women talking about it.
>
>Guys, if you haven't already, get a clue -- this happens ALL THE
>TIME.  And gals, if you tell him about it and he doesn't believe you,
>you don't need him.
>
>>Didn't mean to carry on so much, but this is a subject that really gets
>>me riled up.
>>
>>Which of you women has never had anything like this happen to her?
>
>Speak up, women.  Is there anyone out there who's *never* experienced
>this?
>-- 
>Patricia Martin Steward                      patstew@oz.plymouth.edu
>I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is;
>I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express senti-
>ments that differentiate me from a doormat.       Rebecca West, 1913


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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:25:58 EST
From: <MLS131@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: SB: More memories

Lane Davies was a master at playing Mason.  Thompson turned Mason into a
character that you liked most of the time.  When Lane played him, he was
complex, you either hated him, felt sorry for him, or loved him.  I don't
think its fair to say that Thompson was a better Mason because the role was
a more likeable person.  Lane Davies created the role of Mason, based on his
talents.  While I agree that Thompson wasn't as abhorant as Lester (no one
was THAT bad!), he just wasn't "Mason".  Like many of the characters on the
show, the personality changed with the actor to create an entire new person
with the same name as the old one.  No one was a caustic or sarcastic nor
could they quote Shakespeare or be a drunk like Lane DAvies.  It is his
acting that kept me watching the show (from day one to Jan.  15, all the way
through).  It is also because of Lane Davies and his chemistry with Nancy
Grahn that Julia became a permanent character, one that we all seem to love
so much.

By the way, it is the same type of actor chemistry that created the role that
got Eden and Cruz together.  Marcy and A had so much chemistry that they begged
 the writers to create a romance between Eden and Cruz.  They were told that
the audience would never go for a WASP and a Mexican together and to forget it.
  Marcy and A kept the sizzle in their scenes and the fan response drove the
writers to create the romance.

By the way, I remember the chemistry perfectly. Cruz was living on the house-
boat and Eden was a spoiled brat who wanted scuba diving lessons.  ONe day    s
something went wrong and she stopped breathing.  Cruz gave her CPR.  When she
awakened, she thought he was taking advantage of her and slapped him!  It was
histerical.  I also remember another scene between the two where she wanted him
 to call her and told him (on his answering machine) that if he didn't call
her back (I think she was trying to make up from a fight) that she would jump
in the water and kill herself- she said something like "I even put on my water-
proof mascara, so you'd better hurry!"  The early scenes between the two of
them were classic!

*more of my memory later*  -there's lots more that no one else seems to recall,
 or at least mention on the net!

BTW, Eden and Cruz did have a song that was played everytime they made love
before they got married, I know all the words when I hear it, but I can't seem
to remember it right now.
                         --Margie
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From: e2hooger@laplace.uwaterloo.ca (Erica Hoogerbeets)
Subject: Re: DOOL: TAN: do the big boys know?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:06:30 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.171619.23859@scott.skidmore.edu>, lperkins@saims.skidmore.edu (linda perkins) writes:
> 
> One of my favoriate cartoon ones is a picture of a mans head sticking
> up out of the ground with the caption "GROW YOUR OWN DOPE.......PLANT
> A MAN"
> 
> Lindap ( Who does NOT hate men....Just believes they should stay in
> their place)
> 

Well, one of my favourite bumper stickers reads:

When God created man, She was only kidding.

Erica
I don't hate men either, but it sure is fun to bug 'em.  :-)
From: tillis@icpsr.umich.edu (Eddie Tillis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: Y&R laurie & leslie
Date: 26 Jan 1993 22:44:01 GMT
Organization: Inter-University Consortium for Political and Social Research
NNTP-Posting-Host: tdis.icpsr.umich.edu

In article <16B6217EE.O1ADAMS@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU> O1ADAMS@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU (Debbie Adams) writes:
>I could be wrong but I thought Nikki's husband was Jill's younger brother.
Nope. It was Kevin Van Croft...of the Genoa City Van Crofts.

>Was it Greg or was Greg the older brother who also played Michael Knight?
>Anyway, what was the 'other' brothers name?
The older brother was Greg Foster, Atty.-at-law, played by Wings Hauser. The 
younger was Snapper(tm) Foster, played by David Hasselhoff (A.K.A. Michael
Knight)


ET
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From: bell@cs.unc.edu (Andrew Bell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC TAN:  Marriage for Jackson??  NOT!
Date: 26 Jan 1993 03:43:25 -0500
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
NNTP-Posting-Host: beethoven.cs.unc.edu

In article <1993Jan22.133409.14461@oz.plymouth.edu> patstew@oz.plymouth.edu (Pat Steward) writes:
>Secondly, I think marriage is highly overrated.  I've advised The Kid
>that if she ever thinks she wants to marry someone, she should live
>with them for *at least* two years.  That worm can turn, baby...

Personally, I no longer would recommend that people live together before
getting married.  The problem is that living together becomes very
marriage-like, and thus it's much harder psychologically to break
up with someone.  You effectively slip into marriage, since once you're
living together, there's the pressure to get married from the parents
and grandparents.

Statistics bear this out somewhat;  couples that live together before
marriage have a higher divorce rate than those that don't.  While this
correlation may not be causation, it's pretty solid evidence there's
not a strong beneficial effect to living together.

Personally, I'd recommend not marrying until you want children, and
certainly not marrying young.

(Then again, I lived with my wife for eight months before proposing
at age 22, and have been happily married for 4 1/2 years, so I don't
speak from experience...)

Andrew Bell
bell@cs.unc.edu


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From: jberetta@lib.uwo.ca (Janet Beretta)
Subject: Re: DOOL: TAN: Happy Birthday
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:24:39 GMT

In article <IfMzMOS00iUx81IbR6@andrew.cmu.edu> lf01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Liz Fox) writes:
>
>
>Happy Birthday to you!
>Happy Birthday to you!
>Happy Birthday dear Naughty Nectarine!
>Happy Birthday to you!
>
>(And I didn't even mention which BIG birthday it was!!!)
>
>Have a great one
>
>Love,
>
>The Big Banana

Oh Necty!

Sorry it's late but YYYYYEEESSSSS!!!!

HAPPY HAPPY!!

The belated Figeroo!
-- 
*  Janet Beretta                  | " Sometimes I feel like I can't   *
*  University of Western Ontario  |   even sing 		      *
*  Libraries			  |   I'm very scared for this world  *
*  jberetta@lib.uwo.ca            |   I'm very scared for me."  R.E.M.*
From: alex@unx.sas.com (Alexandra Bost)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC:Gloria...yecchhhh...
Date: 22 Jan 1993 08:42:14 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Beverly Harris writes:

[re: Gloria]
>Well, personally, I hate her, tho I'm probably the only one who does. I
?still think she was a first-class ho, and getting raped doesn't erase all
>the bad she did (IMO).

I have been going back to my last year's updates to do the "One Year Ago"
section of my Wednesday Updates.  And you know what?  Back then, Gloria was
REALLY, REALLY bad!  I mean, have we forgotten how she followed Dixie and
Craig to their honeymoon bed?  How she blackmailed Craig (even - horrors! -
making us feel sorry for him some of the time)?  How she spent Dixie and
Craig's money to buy a car, clothes, apartment, champagne, etc. for
herself?  Not to mention making the video tape that almost DESTROYED
Dixie's life!!!

I'm sorry but I just can't believe that the "goodness of Dixie" can make
this bad girl turn around.  And I think the rape was just a way of
manipulating the viewers into feeling sorry for her.  [I *still* think that
making Will into a rapist was a BAD idea.]

And they want us to swallow that Gloria turned out the way she did because
of her holy-rolling-mama-from-hell?

I guess the writers just expect us to go, [Brian Bodine Accent On:] "Uh,
duh, look at Gloria!  She is sooooo sweet taking up for Dixie like that!"
[B.B. Accent OFF].

To quote Mac Caulkin... "I Don't THINK So!"

>And I despise what she's doing to Stewart.

Yes, Dixie's true-blue best-friend is drooling after her evil ex.  If any
friend of MINE went within 50 feet of MY ex -- well, that person would no
longer be considered a friend!  I know...IOAS, IOAS, IOAS...

>Oh, well. I'm used to being the odd person out. Flame away!

Not in this case.  :-)  I like the OLD Gloria.  Bring back the Bad Girl!
I'd like to see her go after Trevor or Tom and become the "other woman"
again!  Better yet, lets have her and Erica get into a cat fight!
:-)


Alex
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:24:17 EST
From: Joni Snyder <JSNYDER@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Erica


In article <MfLelb_00Uh7A1cXRF@andrew.cmu.edu>, Jennifer Allyson Turner
<jt3j+@andrew.cmu.edu> says:
>
>>My daughter noticed today that when Erica was going back to bed
>>she had shoes on.  I was not watching the screen so I said "they
>>must be bedroom slippers"  To which my daughter said, "No, they
>>are shoes, high heels.  I reversed the tape and sure enough Erica
>>had on a pair of 2-3 inch heels.  How many of you keep a pair of
>>heels by your bed when your in the hospital?
>>
>>
What ever happened to Erica's broken leg?  Could it be better this
soon?  If it were OK would you be able to wear 3" heels?

I don't think so.  My son broke his arm this fall and was in a cast for
8 weeks. The arm was sensitive for about 2 more weeks after the cast
came off.

Joni Snyder

>>Patricia
>
>Come on!  This is Erica we're talking about.  :-)  :-)
>
>Jenn
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From: holst@xenon.arc.nasa.gov (Laura Holst)
Subject: GH:  A&Dw/SOM: AJ
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:39:00 GMT

Excuse me, but, yuck!

Sean Kanan (at right in photo) is taking over the role of 
A.J. January 28.  His first air date is February 16.  Sean
is best known for his role as the villian in "Karate Kid
Part III".

Wonderful.  I never saw the film myself, but I guess we
should give him a chance?

--Laura Holst
E-mail:  holst@xenon.arc.nasa.gov  Decnet:  XEN::HOLST
S-Mail:  NASA/Ames Research Center  MS 219-1
             Moffett Field, CA  94035-1000
P-Mail:        (415) 604-6588
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From: lperkins@saims.skidmore.edu (linda perkins)
Subject: Re: DOOL: TAN: How many Susans? (Was:Aaron Neville)
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:43:39 GMT

Nelson,
   I hereby offically release your cheek so it can be utilized by
somebody else.  
   If this stupid schedule change period *ever* ends maybe I'll have
some time to post.
                                          Lindap

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