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From: lobaugh@a.chem.upenn.edu (John Lobaugh)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: **QUICK SINEAD SURVEY PLEASE ANSWER**
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:58:07 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Dec14.162045.29054@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jm012b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Jeffrey P. Moon) writes:
>In <101918@netnews.upenn.edu> lobaugh@a.chem.upenn.edu (John Lobaugh) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Dec13.173353.25294@pool.info.sunyit.edu> utdp@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Thomas Prohigh) writes:

>>>She sucks and is very Anti-American.  I am from New Jersey and have seem many
>>>shows at the "Garden State Arts Center (GSAC).  They ALWAYS start off a show 
>>>by
>>>playing the National Anthem.  She REFSUED to go on stage if they did this.  It
>>>was the first time EVER in the 25+ years of the GSAC that they did not play
>>>it.  Needless to say she will NEVER play there again.
>
>>Mmmmm. There is nothing that pisses off righteous god-fearing New 
>>Jersians more than standing on your principles. I mean, really, refusing
>>to perform because of the national anthem of the United States of Amerika is
>>played before your show. 

>That's right, John. You'd better take cover; I am very proud of America and
>of our national anthem. Any Anti-American bald-headed bitch who thinks that
>whatever she says go and that I am nothing better than a right-winged facist
>who enjoys showing his patriotism and love of America (that is how you spell
>it, by the way) should go fuck herself. 

Skinhead O'Conner doesn't allow national anthems from ANY country
to be played before her performances because she abhors nationalism.
BTW Neil is not to keen on nationalism either...

>Are you saying that principle is
>nothing but a crock and that everyone should go burn a flag today? 

"They shoot without shame
In the name of a piece of dirt
For a change of accent
Or the colour of your shirt     or for your opinion for that matter...
Better the pride that resides
In a citizen of the world
Than the pride that divides
When a colourful rag is unfurled"


>Well, I
>feel really sorry for you; obviously you are a weak-spined jellyfish who
>cannot help but conform to the new age ideas of society. Do you not love
>your country? 

I love my country very much. It has produced many respected scientists and 
artists. It has one of the highest standards of living in the world and it
is my fervent hope to return there one day to make my living and IT 
DOESN'T HAPPEN TO BE THE US OF A!!!!

>I am not saying that America is perfect, but I can't
>understand why you refuse to show a little national pride. Or have I missed
>something and it is now "hip" to be anti-America?

Yup, you missed it I'm not an american. America has done a lot of good things
and lot of bad things in the world. Far be it for me to decide
if one should be proud or ashamed of its accomplishments.

-- 
John "taking cover" lobaugh@a.chem.upenn.edu
From: aman@micro-c.mcds.com (Aron Dancygier)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: bootlegs 
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 20:49:12 EST
Organization: Dan's Domain, Randolph, New Jersey

Can anyone out there tell me a place that sells Rush bootlegs in NYC.  
Possibly a store in the village. Thanks allot.
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: tj@alpine.b17a.ingr.com (T.J. Higgins)
Subject: quickly written songs (was: Re: Lyrics for _Force Ten_)
Reply-To: tj@alpine.b17a.ingr.com
Organization: The Ernest P. Worrell Institute for the Study of the Vernal Equinox
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:29:24 GMT

|> >Well, actually it took a few hours to write "Force Ten", as was documented in
|> >_Visions_, but that's still pretty quick.
|> 
|> 	Rush has done this quite a bit, it seems.  Other songs they have
|> written to fill up time on their albums.  Three other songs that have been
|> written in just a few hours are:
|> 	Closer to the Heart
|> 	Beneath, Between, Behind
|> 	New World Man.

I have always understood that "Vital Signs" was also in this category.
Anyone know for sure?  (I checked the FAQ before posting, thank you 
very much.)

-- 
T.J. Higgins | tj@alpine.b17a.ingr.com | Intergraph Mapping | Huntsville, AL
"Feed my brain with your so-called 'standards,'
 Who says that I ain't right?" -- Metallica
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From: rivit@shell.portal.com (Russell Michael VanTassell)
Subject: Re: Armagettel
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 03:52:43 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.215421.21272@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mmidboe@nyx.cs.du.edu (digital saint) writes:
>
>     Just what do the christians find to object about Rush's music? Did
>their rantings have any effect on Rush's music at all? 

Sorry, true Christians do not... over zealous Christians seem to (yes,
I'm a Christian Baptist Rush fan).

To my recollection, the Bible (the Christian's "How To Book") says NOT to
do such things as some of these "holier than thou" people are doing -- sorry,
I can't remember that exact Biblical reference off the top of my head.

I think it's rather idiotic, myself.  Accorinding to the Bible, our jobs
here as Christians is to lead people to God as the one true saviour -- not
to push them in a direction they do not want to go...

As for finding anything satanic in the music -- I simply ask you "where"?
I have at <least> one copy of <every> Rush album (I had to buy news ones
when I made the move to CD -- couldn't let <any> of their music escape my
ears) and I have <yet> to find <any> satanic reference in their music...
although it is <their> perogative, if it is there...

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From: "mike rizzello" <mike.rizzello@canrem.com>
Subject: un: snl?
Reply-To: "mike rizzello" <mike.rizzello@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:52:09 EST


EC>Has_Rush_ever_appeared_on_Saturday_Night_Live?
EC>--
EC>---

 I don't think so, and for that matter, I do not believe that they have
performed on any 'talk' or 'variety' shows at all.

 I would love to see the Boyz on Letterman (especially on his premire at
CBS).  Or for that fact how about Arsenio?  I would love to see Geddy doing
some mean funk with the 'Posse' or what ever the heck you call his band.
  Or just wake up to them on Regis and Vickie Lee?  They'd probably wake up
the audience!  "Whoa, can these guys play or what?  I'm outta control!"

 Mike


 * OLX 2.1 TD * Those who hate and fight must stop themselves
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Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: bd6520@u.cc.utah.edu (BALACHANDRA DESHPANDE/MECHANICAL ENGINEERING)
Subject: ABbout Rush...
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Student Mail Machine
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 02:01:44 GMT


Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: larsen@hellgate.utah.edu (Steve Larsen)
Subject: Re: How do you describe Rush?
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 23:41:09 GMT

moleface@next05cville.wam.umd.edu (Ashley Edward Collins) writes:
: 
: > That's one of my only problems with listening to RUSH.  They're my  
: favorite
: > group for many different reasons.  Peart's way with words is very  
: inspiring to
: > me, and i wish i knew more about the stories nehind Hempspheres, 211,  
: and
: > others.  I guess that's why i joinded this newsgroup.  <hint hint>
: > I know i should but they biographies and such, but i thik discussing the  
: facts
: > and opnions are much more interesting.
: > 
: > April
: > april@hotcity.COM
: 
: I can tell you that "2112" is based upon Ayn Rand's book, _Anthem,_ which  
: I still haven't read.  It's also the only song Peart wrote inspired by  
: another writer where he actually sites that writer in the liners (oh,  
: yeah, I just remembered that he sited whatshisface in "Red Barchetta").   
: Rush are indeed a wonderful band, and Neil is a great lyricist, but it  
: pisses me off the way he neglects to site authors whose works he writes  
: songs about.  "Xanadu" was my favorite song until I found out that half of  
: it was written by Samuel Taylor Coleridge.  I think it's great that he  
: wants to honor great writers in song, but what's the point if people don't  
: know whom he's honoring?  This is the second flame-bait post I've written  
: today, so please be gentle.
: 


  Actually, 2112 is not based on Anthem.  Neil wrote the story and then read the book and
realized the similarities, so he mentioned Ayn Rand.

Steve
From: srf6200@zeus.tamu.edu (Steven Rush Fennell)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Happy Holidays...
Date: 18 Dec 92 15:38:00 GMT
Organization: Meltdown Productions, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: zeus.tamu.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <gfABB1m00WB74N62oU@andrew.cmu.edu>, Joseph Velardi <jv14+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes...
>    o  My friend claimed to have seen it on cassette once.  Is it out
>        on different formats?

I've seen _Rush through time_ on LP once, in a mall record store in San 
Antonio Texas.  I didn't get it at the time :(

>    o  If it isn't a bootleg and it doesn't contain any original tracks,
>        what the hell is its purpose?
>    o  Why haven't I seen it in any discographies?  Even Archives and
>        Chronicles made those.

I believe it's on the discography at cs.uwp.edu.

Steve Fennell
srf6200@zeus.tamu.edu
From: leitm@solb1.essex.ac.uk (Leith M F)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Caress of Steel
Date: 13 Dec 92 14:42:29 GMT
Reply-To: leitm@essex.ac.uk (Leith M F)
Organization: University of Essex, Colchester, UK

In article <Bz2qH3.FFF@unix.portal.com> rivit@shell.portal.com (Russell Michael VanTassell) writes:
>......I've noticed ALOT of people using the
>all-to-common IMHO colloquialism.  Do these people really understand what
>this translates to... I seem to seriously doubt it. 
>Sorry... I'm just being a total pain today.  I'll just go take a valium
>and shutup for a while...
>
So it is YHO that IMHO should not be used so often ?
IMHO, there is nothing wrong in using IMHO wherever IMHO serves best, and
BTW, IMHO, you should take that valium, ASAP :-)

Just my Humble Opinion, my 2 cents (or 2 pence), and an opportunity to waste
bandwidth and get flamed by the Alt.music.rush net police for not saying
anything about Rush in my post.
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: umnevile@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Benkamin Bowles Nevile)
Subject: Re: Enough (Re:) Marillion?
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 23:03:26 GMT

Would everyone on this newsgroup do me a big favor?  Stop being lazy! 
When you take the time to reply, why not make your reply that much better
(and easier to read) by removing ALL of the unnecessary quoted lines.  
For instance, I don't think it's ever necessary to quote anyone's signoff.

Please?  It would make leafing through these messages a hundred times easier.

Thanks.

Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: rivit@shell.portal.com (Russell Michael VanTassell)
Subject: Re: Armagettel
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:09:51 GMT

In article <exuptr.461.0@exu.ericsson.se> exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.001502.26956@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> kyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Kris Young) writes:
>
>> Hey, I love a good argument, any way I can come by it!  :)
>
>No you don't.
>
>   0 0
>    L
>   \_/

No, NO, NOO, NOOO, NOOO!!!!!

To alt.monty.python with the BOTH of you... BEFORE this starts!!!  <smile>

> "Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand..."

A "too true to life quote" from the masters...
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From: dan@rat.csc.calpoly.edu (Dan Delany)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Who is the kid?
Date: 17 Dec 92 09:44:59 GMT
Organization: Shinola Industries: We know the difference.

Wow!  jm012b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu typed...
> Hey, all you Rush fans:
> 
> 	I was looking at my "Roll the Bones" tape cover the other day (don't
> have a CD player yet). I never really thought about this until someone was
> discussing something psychoanalytical about the cover on TNMS. Anyhow, my
> question is: who is that boy kicking the skull? I' sorry if it is in the FAQ
> list somewhere, but I accidently deleted my copy (OPPS). Is that one of the
> band members' son? I need the help of this newsgroup to answer this question
> that won't stop eating away at my brain... =)

From the FAQ:

Who is the boy in the RTB video and on the RTB cover?

   According to "The New Music Magazine" 11/11/91, his name is
   Michael Vander Veldt.

-- 
Dan Delany                                              dan@rat.csc.calpoly.edu
  "If Bob can't figure out his VCR, he'll never be able to figure out women."
From: gjr@st-andrews.ac.uk (Graham James Reilly)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Does anyone know if...
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:30:43 GMT
Organization: St. Andrews University, Scotland.

If you have enough musical ability it is not that difficult to arrange things
in your head and remember it all.  I only wish I could ...

And also: not only do Rush do their music like this - Dave Gilmour is musically
illiterate as well.  Now that does amaze me.



Dylan
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: utdp@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Thomas Prohigh)
Subject: Re: How do you describe Rush?
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 17:27:42 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.164158.26156@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jm012b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Jeffrey P. Moon) writes:
>Hello, fellow Rushians (I thought that was kinda cute, whoever started
>that):
>
>	Last night while I was rewatching my "Chronicles" videotape in a
>friend's dorm room, three of my friends, Kai, Tashen, and Atif, came in to
>find out to what I was listening. They come from China, Bangladesh, and
>Pakistan respectively, and none of the three had ever heard Rush before.
>They asked who I was listening to, and I told them Rush. They were a bit
>amused at the members, especially Geddy, whom Kai thought looked more like a
>girl than a guy.
>
>  	Well, finally they asked me what type of music Rush played. I opened
>my mouth to answer, but I suddenly found that I didn't really have a way to
>describe their music; to me it has always been Rush. Well, I told them that
>it was kind of a mixture of classic rock, progressive, and heavy metal, but
>I wasn't satisfied with that answer. I'm sure many of you are chuckling at
>my pitiful attempt at describing the band, so I'm posing this question to
>the group, which I'm sure will get a lot of discussion: what type of music
>IS Rush? Let the gates open...
> 

Rush can be considered as "Progressive Hard Rock!"    I think that says it all.



Tom		A spirit with a vision is a dream with a mission
From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Lyrics for _Force Ten_
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:54:13 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <Bz6216.G1E@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> schmidtc@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Christian "X-Man" von Schmidt-Pauli) writes:
>dan@rat.csc.calpoly.edu (Dan Delany) writes:

>>Well, actually it took a few hours to write "Force Ten", as was documented in
>>_Visions_, but that's still pretty quick.
>
>	Rush has done this quite a bit, it seems.  Other songs they have
>written to fill up time on their albums.  Three other songs that have been
>written in just a few hours are:
>	Closer to the Heart
>	Beneath, Between, Behind
>	New World Man.
>
>	All three of these songs, IMHO, are very good.  It's wierd that
>songs they can write in a couple of hours are better than half the songs
>on the album that took much longer to write.

I don't agree that these song are better than half the songs on their
respective albums, but there is a certain quality to them which I think
is unique and quite explicable, namely that they have _the_ sound of
their respective albums. Why this should be clear: they have worked on
all the other songs beforehand, and therefore have "updated" themselves
to the new techniques the most by the time they've recorded these songs.


Gregg
From: eam3@po.CWRU.Edu (Eric A. Meyer)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: How do you describe Rush?
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:33:20 GMT
Reply-To: eam3@po.CWRU.Edu (Eric A. Meyer)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, jm012b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Jeffrey P. Moon) says,
in part:

>I wasn't satisfied with that answer. I'm sure many of you are chuckling at
>my pitiful attempt at describing the band, so I'm posing this question to
>the group, which I'm sure will get a lot of discussion: what type of music
>IS Rush? Let the gates open...

   I always thought of them as playing power rock.  If power rock is already
a genre of music, then this term may not apply to Rush, depending on what
the term means.  Still, it IS rock music, and it doe have a lot of power, in
tempo, lyrical content, energy, and overall sound, so...
   For what it's worth.

		-EMeyer

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From: lockhart@cecer.army.mil (David Lockhart)
Subject: Re: New thread(s)
Organization: US Army Corps of Engineers Construction Engineering Research Labs
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:40:01 GMT

It seems reasonably clear to me that at least part of Prime Mover is simply
a sort of autobiography of a deist's god, that is a god which creates the
universe and then leaves it to run according to natural laws put into it at
creation.
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From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.warlord
Subject: Re: RUSH?
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:20:43 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
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              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article <1992Dec17.001118.29516@tc.cornell.edu> mdw@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh) writes:
>From: mdw@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
>Subject: RUSH?
>Date: 17 Dec 92 00:11:18 GMT

>Hi. I saw a CD in the store today by a band called "Rush"
>and was wondering if this has anything to do with the movie
>"Rush" or maybe Rush Limbaugh (who is really funny!)
>Should I get it? I didn't like that movie much but I listen
>to Rush Limbaugh every day on the radio and heard he had an
>album out.

>Sorry if this is a newbie question but I've never heard
>of the BAND "Rush" before.

>Any ideas? Thanks.

I hope you're kidding.  If you're not, check out alt.music.rush, which has
nothing to do with a.f.r-l

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From: april@hotcity.COM (April Thompson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Last go-round?
Date: 12 Dec 92 15:14:14 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <djd.723819690@reading>, djd@csg.cs.reading.ac.uk (David J Dawkins)
writes:
>dpearson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Pearson) writes:
>>      What I was thinking is that maybe they'll do an instrumental album.  I 
>>think that's one direction that they haven't gone after.  They're
instrumentals
>
>>are terrible interesting to listen to.  Why shouldn't they try an entire
album
>>with them?
>>      Another good reason for this possible direction could be that Ged's
>>vocal chords aren't going to be able to sustain those high shreiks much
longer.
>
>>That's got to be painful after a while.
>
>   When did you last hear Geddy shriek on a studio album?  Good grief.
>
>-dave
>-- 
>djd@csg.cs.rdg.ac.uk
>djd@csug.cs.rdg.ac.uk
>davidd@integ.uucp

That's the neat thing about Geddy.  His voice has TAMED just a little over the
years, and i miss his old voice, but am happy with the newer.  I would give
almost anything to go back in time and see them play 15 years ago!!  Follow
their every tour and really see how they've progressed myself, instead of
watching compliations and hearing recordings.  The real thing could be so much
more exciting.
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: vcsc458@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (roy)
Subject: Re: Just who's reading this?...
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:39:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.045642.15550@cs.mun.ca> stephenm@odie.cs.mun.ca (Stephen Mercer) writes:
>  Sorry to waste the bandwidth, but I was wondering just how many of you are
>getting my posts? I've read for quite awhile, but posted only once, and I
>didn't notice any followups to it, (probably no reason to followup, anyway)
>If you see this, drop me a short line, so I know people are reading my posts
>, thus making it worthwile to post my occasional ramblings. :)

Yes, I got this message.  But with hundreds of messages in the multiple
newsgroups I read, I can't respond to everything, and I'm sure this is
how other people feel as well.

>Hey, at least you guys aren't as bad as the gang in alt.---.metallica!:):)

I know EXACTLY what you mean!

-Roy
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From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Sinead O'Conner and why I responded...
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:02:57 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
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In article <1992Dec15.011902.10643@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jm012b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Jeffrey P. Moon) writes:

>Now enough of this nonsense. I'm with those who want to get back to
>discussing Rush. Anyone else have a gripe? Just email me. Thanks.

I agree, but how did it get started here, anyway?
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