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From: wolve@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu (Wolverine)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: It's Whine Time Again...
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:26:57 GMT
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Reply-To: wolve@meceng.coe.northeastern.edu
Organization: Northeastern University
In-reply-to: aatresa@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov's message of 7 Apr 92 13:06:00 GMT


>   >How about "Geek"? Or as my dad likes to introduce me to his friends "My son the Computer Dweeb".
>   > 
>   >Does Mr. Webster have anything to say about that? (I'm to lazy to look(: )
>
>   Sure does, Michael!
>
>   Geek - a carnival performer often billed as a wild man whose act usually 
>   includes biting the head off a live chicken or snake
>
>   Do you qualify???
>
>   No dweeb in my dictionary.  Interesting, huh?
>
>   -- Teresa
>
>		   Life -- just for the FUN of it!!!!


Hehehehehe Geek!
I was told last week that I am a "Recovering Geek"
This was by a girl that I realllllly like though havent gotten up the 
chutzpah to ask out though, though I will say last night got told to 
take the path not followed, no guts no glory, could it be a hint? nah! ;)

Anyways this gal coined a little phrase to me this weekend that I think
fits here, ...its one of those be kind to XXX week and her slogan was:

	HUG A GEEK WEEK!

Sorry if you dont get a chuckle, but I fell off the chair laughing so I 
thought I would share it ;)

	Wolverine
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From: lm89@ecs.soton.ac.uk (McIlhoney L)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: What is love really about
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:54:15 GMT


>In article <1992Mar31.145808.1@acad3.alaska.edu>, fsmlw1@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
>|> So no matter what anyone else tells you... Love sucks... You don't want it and
>|> the way I look at it... Love is just a temporary break from the general
>|> depression of life... Because nothing lasts forever and we both know hearts can
>|> change...

Aha!  Do I detect a Guns'n'Roses fan here??  :->
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles,soc.couples
From: tlode@isis.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Sanctity of relationships
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Distribution: world,soc
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 17:42:36 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.014644.14378@rice.edu> rbook@flammulated.owlnet.rice.edu (Robert Aaron Book) writes:
>
>In addition to the ethical issue, there is also the practical issue:  if the
>object of your "wooing" is responsive, then obviously he/she isn't very 
>committed to his/her present relationship, and probably won't be committed
>to the relationship with you, either.  Thus, he/she will probably be wooed 
>away from you by someone else, so what's the point?

I don't think there's nearly as strong a correlation as you're suggesting--
I've been in relationships before with women who weren't particularly
committed to me who then got involved with others to whom they're very
committed.  Commitment to a relationship is a function of the two people
involved and their needs and goals at the time and a low level of commitment
in one relationship doesn't imply there wouldn't be a high level in another.

>--Robert Book
>  rbook@rice.edu

Trygve
From: jordan@cs.tulane.edu (Misti Jordan)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: It's Whine Time Again...
Keywords: When
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:11:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr8.021101.6327
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
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In article <ktr8efINNrn3@girtab.usc.edu>, jodar@girtab.usc.edu (Nicholas Jodar) writes:
> In article <1992Apr03.044848.4323@yuma.acns.colostate.edu> greenidd@CS.ColoState.EDU (danielle greenidge) writes:
>
> >In article <11293@ecs.soton.ac.uk> lm89@ecs.soton.ac.uk (McIlhoney L) writes:
> >>Lots of women like me - none luurrve me though, so I'm
> >>just trying to forget about getting a life, because five years alone
> >>is too long to keep your hopes up.
> >>
> >>Lawrence McIlhoney, Electronics and Computer Science
>
> >You've only been alone for 5 years, Lawrence? That may not be nothing to
> >sneeze about, but it definitely isn't anything to brag about. My finacee was
> >SO-less for >>EIGHT<< years!!!
> >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >danikat  is  Danielle Greenidge      ||        greenidd@handel.cs.colostate.edu
> >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ONLY EIGHT YEARS...?!? :-)
>
> My Momma found her true love at the age of 37.  I'm hoping I will
> not have to wait that long.... :-)
>

I am not quite 37 as of yet... only 20, but I had never had a date, or
even a second glance until halfway through my 18th year! Of course, then,
guys started beating down my door... <NOT!!!!!>... :-}
Seriously, don't feel bad about being alone. At least you know you'll be
in good company! ;-P

Misti
From: petersonange@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: LOVE AND RELATIONSHIPS
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:29:28 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

What are love and relationships really about?????

In the musical COMPANY written by Stephen Sondheim, Robert sings...

Someone to hold you too close,
Someone to hurt you too deep,
Someone to sit in your chair, 
To ruin your sleep...

Someone to need you too much, 
Someone to know you too well,
Someone to pull you up short 
And put you through hell...

Someone you have to let in.
Someone whose feelings you spare,
Someon who, like it or not, will want you to share
A little a lot...

Someone to crowd you with love,
Someone to force you to care,
Someone to make you come through,
Who'll always be there, as frightened as you,
of being alive,
Being alive, being alive, being alive.

Somebody hold me too close,
Somebody hurt me too deep,
Somebody sit in my chair,
And ruin my sleep and make me aware
Of being alive, being alive.

Somebody need me too much,
Somebody know me too well,
Somebody pull me up short
And put me through hell and give me support
For being alive, make me alive,
Make me alive.

Make me confused, mock me with praise,
Let me be used, vary my days.
But alone is alone, not alive.

Somebody crowd me with love,
Somebody force me to care,
Somebody let me come through,
I'll always be there as frightened as you,
To help us survive --
Being alive, being alive, being alive.

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison)
Subject: Re: Ed and Teresa (New Insight !)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Ancient Souls Inc.
Date: 10 Apr 1992 10:50 EST  

In article <1992Apr10.051313.29832@leland.Stanford.EDU>, rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft) writes...
>In article <ku9rhlINNfok@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> erc@pogo.Corp.Sun.COM (Ed Carp) writes:
>>In article <9APR199208342801@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> aatresa@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Teresa Kline) writes:
>>>In article <1992Apr9.022834.25112@leland.Stanford.EDU>, rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft) writes...
>>
>>>>Ed and Teresa flirt on the net.  Teresa finally calls Ed's bluff and
>>>>tells him to ask her out.  Ed wimps out.  
>>>That about covers it...:(
>>Hey!!!  Wait a minute!!!  WHEN did you ask me out on the net???????
> 
>Get with the program Ed...  the woman ain't got all day.
> 

.. and, just to `sweeten' the pot a bit...

Hey, Ed. You *don't* know what you're missing... she's an acrobat too and I've 
got *PROOF* !!!!!  You wouldn't *believe* what *I* saw last night !

(Note: No Smiley)

-- Stephen 

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	Never regret a *choice*.  Rather, save your regrets for the
	choices you *didn't* make.

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: mars@eddie.mit.edu (Anita Hsiung)
Subject: How depressing
Organization: MIT EE/CS Computer Facilities, Cambridge, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 22:13:07 GMT

Hi all...  This is so depressing.  I go to Santa Barbara with a few
friends.  We (four single, dashing, young women) have a little dinner
party.  There are two other single men there, with another couple, but
they don't count.  So, naturally, wheels start spinning.  After seeing
a play and returning to the apartment, we have scrumptious strawberry
pie!

Then, magically, everyone disappears to home or to sleep, leaving me
and him (call him Mr. X) alone, chatting.  It was a pleasant chat, but
around 2 am, if I don't take out my contacts, I'll go blind.  I tell
him to stay for a few minutes, he rises to leave.  He suggests we keep
in touch.  I'm too fuzzy at that late hour (hey, I work!) to think of
offering my phone number.  But that's okay.

Now, if I were attracted to him, it would be pleasant.  As it is, I'm
just depressed.  I've decided, if I were brave enough to defy mom and
enter the world of theatre, I'll give up men for the rest of my life.

Am I saying anything?  Nah.  The motto of the story is:  there are
lots of single men in Santa Barbara.  Go there to find one.

	-- Anita --

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Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles,soc.couples
From: hjanssen@cbnewse.cb.att.com (hank janssen)
Subject: Re: Sanctity of relationships
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: world,soc
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:17:52 GMT

From article <7APR199211524197@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>, by afdenis@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison):
> In article <1992Apr7.144159.25352@cbnewse.cb.att.com>, hjanssen@cbnewse.cb.att.com (hank janssen) writes...
>>From article <1992Apr7.005929.11543@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>, by rnjx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu:

A LOT OF STUFF DELETED.

>>> O.K., would you still do it anyway?
>> 
>>NO, how ever you look at it it is morrally incorrect.
> 
> OK, Hank a quick scenerio ... you *think* that she's marrying someone 
> because *you* two had an argument and she's *showing* you up by jumping 
> into a marriage that you don't think is right for her. Despite the argument, 
> *you* feel that you and her belong together ...   What do you do ??
> 

This is getting fun. :-) 
I  was under the impression that you don't go out and "merry" somebody
on   a   whim.    Just   because   you  had  and  argument  with  your
girl/boy-friend.  If you do, you pay the price beyond believe. And the
one left  behind  will  be  the  one  standing  alone but laughing the
hardest.

About the *feeling* part, you might feel it. But i found out, not that
long ago, that it takes two to tango. And whishing it does not make it
true. However you think you treated your SO. and  think  you  are  the
best thing that ever happened to them, even if they say  it  is  true.
(And let me tell you, you wake up one day.  Realize  it  all.  And  it
hurts pretty bad.)

Even  if the  above mentioned scenario is true, than i would still say
it is morrally incorrect. If she jumps of the building  would  you  do
the same.:-)
And if she really does this all to hurt you, she will, ultimatly,  pay
a price she never thought possible.

Oops,

Sorry


Hank.
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      I gaze long at its beauty,		   | 	    (CPU)
           I am overwhelmed.			   |
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles,soc.couples
From: dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell)
Subject: Re: Sanctity of relationships
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 04:12:38 GMT

jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston) writes:

>[...]         The point is that a person ACTIVELY trying to mess up an
>existing relationship is showing a lack of respect for the relationship
>and for BOTH of the people in that relationship.  Asking someone out
>when you don't know they are involved is quite all right.  Asking someone
>out when you know that they are involved is disrespectful.  [...]
>
>One last time:  It's a question of respect from the third party, not of 
>ownership by either of the relationship parties.

Respect is a big part of the bottom line, but I don't see what is so
disrespectful by testing the waters.  Of the couple times I've done it, my
level of respect for the other guy had a lot to do with how far I pushed
things.  If I had a decent amount of respect for the guy, then I'd be
fairly conservative.  In one instance it went beyond disrespect; I actively
despised the guy, and I gauged how much was too much by how it affected the
woman, and really didn't take him into much consideration at all.

There is a default level of respect I accord all people, but the level of
respect (or disrespect) beyond that is earned.  
-- 
=========*davE*.....making the world safe for intelligent dance music.=========
As you're cleaning the orange carpet, you will hear a voice that says, "Fetch 
my cigarettes."  Another voice will say, "THEY'RE ON TOP OF THE REFRIGERATOR."
--(David Vessell)--(Bradley University Computing Services)-(dave@bradley.edu)--
From: afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Ed and Teresa (Carp ????)
Keywords: Let's mind our own business
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:58:00 GMT
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Organization: Ancient Souls Inc.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <kup5rmINN9hs@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, erc@pogo.Corp.Sun.COM (Ed Carp) writes...

>Yeah, that's about how long her orgasm would last...45 seconds of pure
>pleasure...:)

I was talking about the 45 seconds leading up to it ...

> 

> 
>Oh, where's your spirit of fun, Stephen? :)

It left town on the same train as my libido. :-(

-- Stephen 

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	Never regret a *choice*.  Rather, save your regrets for the
	choices you *didn't* make.
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From: hjanssen@cbnewse.cb.att.com (hank janssen)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles,soc.couples
Subject: Re: Sanctity of relationships
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:32:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

From article <1992Apr8.203858.3251@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, by sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein):
> In article <1992Apr8.173620.19757@ultra.com> stcroix@ultra.com (Bill St. Croix) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr7.183212.349@cbfsb.cb.att.com> sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein) writes:
>>>In article <75nG027bc0Nq00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> jsp@pls.amdahl.com writes:
> 
>>Excuse me???  Excuse me...if you ask someone out, who is in a relationship
>>and they say yes, you are responsible for breaking them up.
> 
> Don't agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I am not responsible for the actions of
> others, only for my own.  Let's give women a little credit here.  They
> are more than capable to say "NO".  In fact, I think they are more 
> capable at saying no than us men.  If their relationship was on the rocks,
> and that's why she said "YES", I is still NOT my fault the relationship
> was failing.
> 

This is getting fun.
I guess you also don't hold Hitler responsible for  the  second  world
war. Just imagine him saying, I am not responsible for anybody's elses
actions. Only my own.
B.llSh.t, without him there would not have been a second world war. 
Also  without you, the people would not have had a reason to brake up.
So it damn well makes you (at least, partially) responsible.

The above logic, It isn't my fault, they did it. Is a screamer.

So  you  also  don't  have  any  problem  if  i  would  take away your
girlfriend/wife or whatever. You would not think anything off it.

Sad, very sad.

Sorry, but i just had to explode here. 
(Ducking for flames now.)

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         I'd forgotten you were there.			   |att!ihlpb!hjanssen
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles,soc.couples
From: polsak@nuscc.nus.sg (Suzaina Abdul Kadir (Ms))
Subject: Re: Sanctity of relationships
Organization: National University of Singapore
Distribution: world,soc
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 02:00:48 GMT


I agree with this one too. Its never an easy
issue to take an opinion on.
Frankly speaking, at the end of the day, the
decision really lies with the woman/girl.
Sge is an individual with the freedom to make that
choice (that is between two guys).
The issue of right and wrong comes in when we
see how she handles it.


- Suzaina


Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles,soc.couples
From: stcroix@ultra.com (Bill St. Croix)
Subject: Re: Sanctity of relationships
Reply-To: stcroix@ultra.com (Bill St. Croix)
Organization: Ultra Network Technologies
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 20:10:36 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.041238.6313@bradley.bradley.edu> dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell) writes:
>
>Respect is a big part of the bottom line, but I don't see what is so
>disrespectful by testing the waters.  Of the couple times I've done it, my
>level of respect for the other guy had a lot to do with how far I pushed
>things.  If I had a decent amount of respect for the guy, then I'd be
>fairly conservative.  In one instance it went beyond disrespect; I actively
>despised the guy, and I gauged how much was too much by how it affected the
>woman, and really didn't take him into much consideration at all.

Hey....now here's a guy that you want to be dating your daughter! :+)

No offense, but I think your pretty much being a real jerk about this
respect issue.  I'm mean..."Hey, I hate this guy...so I think I'll see
just how badly I can F*ck up his life." is a pretty piss poor way of being
"respectful".  I think the respect that Mr. Preston was discussing was not
based on the individuals involved, but more or less just on the fact that
a relationship exists at all.

Some people have said, "If it were a friend of mine, then I wouldn't make
any attempt to 'woo' the SO away."  That seems pretty cold hearted to
me.  "I won't F*ck over a friend, but anyone else is fair game." is pretty
scary to me!

In general, gauge respect based on that a relationship exists; not on how
well you 'like' the people in that relationship.

>There is a default level of respect I accord all people, but the level of
>respect (or disrespect) beyond that is earned.  

Sounds like you'd be the type to call the guy's family or job and leave a
message with his mother or boss that, "Tell Joe that I got that ounce of
<insert name of favorite illegal substance here> for him."

Geez, whata guy!

	Bill (Not a Nice Guy, just a gentleman!)

---
I don't believe in the stars or the planets or angels watching from
above, but I believe there's a Ghost of a Chance, we can find someone to
love and make it last...
From: jodar@girtab.usc.edu (Nicholas Jodar)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: need feedback
Date: 15 Apr 1992 08:38:05 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu
Summary: Be Honest with Yourself....
Keywords: Do It Right

In article <1992Apr14.230957.3850@iscsvax.uni.edu> wilms5839@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

>The problem is that he is a senior and graduates in 4 weeks. I on the
>other hand am a freshman and have at least 3 and 1/2 years to go yet. I have
>been the victim of bad long distance relationships. I want the relationship to
>progress naturally but I also want to keep it going after he graduates. 

So keep it going....

>I am
>afraid because of past relationships. I don't know what to do. 

Stop a minute.  Think.  Think about the kind of guy you want to
be with.  Now ask yourself:  

'Would a relationship with that kind of guy work out in this situation?'

I'd hope you'd say yes....

>When I got into
>this relationship I knew that he was graduating and that the relationship would
>probably end.

How can you possibly know until it DOES end?  Are you going to be
wondering, 25 years from now, 'Is he going to leave me?'

If you think you've got the cards, play them the way they have to
be played to win.  If you don't win, you didn't have the cards....

>In the last couple of days he keeps telling me how much he is
>going to miss me and how much he loves me. Like I said I don't know what to do.
>
>                        -AJ

I think you do, but you're afraid.  People fear the unknown.
Courage means being afraid but doing what you have to, anyway.
That's how progress is made.

-Nick

'Yes, I definitely hear my pillow calling me from the other side of the room...'

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From: rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles,soc.couples
Subject: Re: Sanctity of relationships
Date: 16 Apr 92 01:53:29 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <1992Apr14.194953.27080@ultra.com> stcroix@ultra.com (Bill St. Croix) writes:
>And what exactly do extra-maritial affairs have to do with ROMANCE?  There
>is nothing romantic about extra-maritial affairs, whether or not it is
>an "agreement" between the parties 'involved'.

Is it just me, or does anyone *else* feel that a nontrivial fraction
of the population of alt.romance peddles a very limited and unrealistic
view of romance and relationships?

Maybe it's just me.

-- 
Michael Rawdon
rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

No optimistic outlook survives contact with the human race.
From: 01jametzger@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: LOVE sucks. No question about it.
Date: 5 Apr 92 21:48:40 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <CS132093.92Apr1145012@cslab5e.cs.brown.edu>, cs132093@cs.brown.edu (Mark "?" Prince) writes:
QM writes:
> Hey there guys,
> 
> 	Don't let me interrupt your mopings and whinings...
 
Please do!!
> 	It is the times when you don't feel loved that make you
> appreciate that emotion THAT much more.
> 
> 	What love is:
> 
> 		Love is having one thought which keeps you going no
> matter what.
> 
> 		Love is knowing that there is someone you'd rather be
> with or something you'd rather be doing.
> 
> 	What love isn't:
> 
> 		A bunch of people whining about being snubbed.

*ClapClapClapClapClapClapClap*
> 
> 	If male decency isn't paying off, maybe it is because you
> haven't found someone WORTHY of that decency.  Will you stop looking
> because you think "Love is overrated"?  NO.  Get rid of the emotional
> baggage and go on.  Forgive me if this sounds like a lecture from an
> idealistic Romantic.  IT IS.  This is no flame and not intended to
> incur further bitterness.
> 
> 		QuestionMark
> 

Thank you Markness, what you had to say is well worth the consideration of
all of us, whiners or not.  Once in a while we all need to be reminded what
Life, and Love, and Romance are all about.  And you did a VERY good job of
it!

Pooh
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