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From: tadr@doe.carleton.ca (Tom A. D. Riley)
Subject: Conflicting Winos2 Settings
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:24:46 GMT

This is a questionthat has been bothering me for
some time but I have seen no discussion of it here
or in the FAQ. How is it that in seamless sessions
I can have conflicting settings? 

To be more specific If I have 3 Apps each with
separately twiddled settings for HARDWARE_ROM_TO_RAM
DPMI_MEMORY_LIMIT etc all running in the same session
how is this all sorted out when the all have to run in a
single VDM?

Do they all run in a single VDM?

I can imagine separate memory limits on a per app basis
but something like VIDEO_MODE_RESTRICTION surely can't
be incompatible when all the apps in that session share a
windows driver. The situation is further confused by
the generic WINOS2 notebook in the command prompts folder.
What takes priority when these settings conflict with those
of an app?

One last question. Does this have anything to do with the 
fact that I cannot figure out how to start up a windows app
to run in an _existing_ full screen session? Right now it seems 
to me that the only way to have more than one app running in a
full screen session in to fire up progman full screen and take
it from there in windows mode. This seems to waste precious
RAM resources to have progman doing a poor job of something WPS
should do.

I would really like to see some discussion on this or better yet
get a pointer to some solid information. Any thoughts?

Tom
From: gershon@husc11.harvard.edu (Ethan Gershon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 Wish List
Date: 27 Jan 93 06:00:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc.gershon.728114431

as long as we are wishing...

How about a config.sys maintance utilitiy that looks like the DOS
settings window?  Would make it easier for non-power users to adjust
various settings.  (In the past I have also suggested that a
broader utility would manage changes apps want to make in config.sys,
as well as read an execute install/uninstall scripts for apps.)

Also:  A PM-based command line interpreter.  Like an xterm with scroll
back and resizable windows.  Stdin/out apps (like copy, unzip, etc) would
appear in the window, full screen apps (like TED) would have a fresh
window set up for them.  Pull down menus would do useful things like
command history, directory switching and searching, copy/paste, etc.
(I realize this could probably be written by a third party, but it
really seems like something that should be included with the OS (more
than, say, the Tune Editor should be).)

                                             --Ethan Gershon
                                             gershon@husc.harvard.edu
From: benezra_a@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Is OS/2 a dead end?
Date: 23 Jan 93 03:24:21 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

> Average computer users will not be willing to or may not be able to copy with
> these "minor" glitches.  When Windows or dos crashed and average computer user
> does a reboot, he's generally back at the dos command line within a minute
> or two (depending on his config/autoexec), or back at windows in another min
> or so.  With OS/2, when it reboots, particularly after a crash or unexpected
> shutdown, it takes upwards of 5 to 30 minutes depending on your hard drive
> size and configuration.  

Are you kidding? 5 to 30 minutes?! Are you sure your computer is plugged in?
If that were true, there wouldn't be anyone here to talk to. Where did you
get this gem from? Redmond?

Alan Benezra
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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Trident Video cards
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:49:43 GMT

In article <dlcogswe.727643972@vela> dlcogswe@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Dan Cogswell) writes:
>Considering Trident's exemplary support of OS/2 2.0, I thought 
>I'd consider a purchase of one of their cards.  Can someone give me some
>info on them?  Which is the fastest?  Do any have 8 bit DACs (i.e., a
>24-bit palette)?  Are any accelerated?

I do not believe Trident's accelerated adapters are available yet, but
they are working on it.

Trident seems to offer a solid, well supported, albeit sluggish
SuperVGA adapter.  The HiColor upgrade is available -- the adapter can
ship with or without one.

They are very inexpensive.  Look in Computer Shopper and you'll find
several vendors with Trident 8900C 1MB SuperVGA adapters for under
$60.

>If you own one, send me mail with your impressions of it (or post if you
>think others might be interested).  

No real complaints -- they've been very OS/2-savvy, and I certainly
appreciate that.  Certainly worth the price, but don't expect blinding
performance for $60.

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From: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.x removal HOW? Cannot boot hardrive!
Date: 24 Jan 1993 20:50:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, dkennett@fraser.sfu.ca (Daniel Kennett) says:

If you want to make a disk dos 5 bootable without  data loss, copy the
file sys.com on to a bootable diskette.  Sys.com can be found in c:\dos
on any normal dos installation.  Boot from the diskette and run
sys c:.  Your hard drive will be made dos bootable with no data loss.
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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Full screen DOS problems ...
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 17:17:49 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.015738.482236@sue.cc.uregina.ca> skagos@mercury.cs.uregina.ca (Takis Skagos) writes:
>I'm having problems with full screen DOS sessions, ever since I installed
>the Service Pack, about a month ago.  When I start a full screen
>DOS session, or ALT-HOME a window to a full screen session, the characters
>displayed are all screwed up.  Usually everything has changed to A's,
>G's, and :'s.  If I type "mode 80,25", everything changes to normal, 
>but if I switch back to WPS and then back to the DOS session, everything
>is screwed up again.  This is *ANNOYING* as it causes me to loose valuable
>data.  I have a Trident 8900C.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>Thanks!

There's a bug fix available for this Service Pak problem.  You can get
it via anonymous ftp from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.  Check file
/pub/os2/00Index for location -- do a keyword search on "home" or
"alt" to find it.

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From: jesse@panix.com (Jesse Feder)
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.0 with DOS communications software - high speed
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 07:11:00 GMT

In <727468005snx@tgm.CAM.ORG> eric@tgm.CAM.ORG (Eric Trepanier) writes:

>If you can handle FTP, *RUN* to the nearest site and pickup the latest
>SIO drivers (v0.31 is current I think), I has been doing a miracle for me!!!

Where can these drivers be found? 

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From: enk2@po.cwru.edu (Erik Kovach)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: 2.1b, 16 colour & seamless Win3.1
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:47:55 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
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In article <1k187rINN707@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> chall@geo.lsa.umich.edu (Chris Hall) writes:
>Is there some work-around for this? I don't know which I'd rather give
>up, fast scrolling or seamless. Probably seamless. I would really like
>to see 16 colour support in the 2.1 official release!!!

I want to know, too.  I like 8-bit color, but I want my shell back to 4-bit
because it ran much better (especially windowing).  If you're listening,
Trident: please consider 4-bit drivers for 2.1, also!!!
From: mleiber@hpwad.WAD.HP.COM (Michael Leiber)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 07:25:46 GMT
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1Beta: Windows ATM doesn't work
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Waldbronn, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc


Thanks for your advice. I actually do have fonts installed (I had them
before when running GA+SP), that's not the reason.

I know that it generally isn't recommended to install Beta's over existing
installations, but what shall I do if I didnt' have the space (and time)
to do a complete reinstall.

The suggestion to reinstall WinOS/2 was already brought to me, and I 
did it twice, to no avail. When installing there are 2 times, when the
installation program failes with error YNARI (if I remember correctly),
looking at the installation log file at that time reveals problems
installing \os2\dll\wincfg.dll and another dll also with "win" in it's
name. A retry does the thing (at least the installation continues).
I suspect that this error could have something to do with the ATM
symptom.

Btw. I installed the Beta on another machine from ground zero, ATM
there works like a champ.

If I didn't find a solution in the next days, I will have to do the
complete installation :-<.

				regards Michael

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From: enk2@po.cwru.edu (Erik Kovach)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 and fonts (ATM, etc.)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:18:00 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62711.student.cwru.edu

In article <1993Jan26.004332.26829@midway.uchicago.edu> jhrv@tao.cpe.uchicago.edu (John Kim) writes:
>There ain't no such thing.  Do you know what you're talking about?
>
>To answer the original question, yes, you can use the same fonts
>(Adobe Type 1 PFB format) for windows atm, winos2 atm, and os/2 atm
>(and the various ports of gnu ghostscript, for that matter).  One
>difference is that you need the corresponding .afm (adobe font metric)
>files for OS/2 atm, while win atm and winos2 atm look for .pfm files
>(ghostscript doesn't use font metric files).  You can obtain most of
>the .afm files you need from ps-file-server@adobe.com (this is a mail
>server.  Send a message that says "help" to get help).

I thought it was this way because I have different files for the two.
All you need is the different AFM/PFM files.  I stand corrected.  Thanks.
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From: cfdwe@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (David Ebdon)
Subject: ET4000 drivers for Windoze like OS/2's (No vertical stretch)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:06:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

Can anyone point me to an ET4000 driver for Windows 3.1 that does not do a
vertical stretch so that the top bar is almost out of sight when in 800 x
600 mode?  In OS/2 2.1b the screen dimensions are fine, but in native
Windows there is the stretch problem.  Of course when the REAL 2.1 comes
out I won't need to dual boot, but for now....  I have tried the drivers
at indiana u, but they all "stretch".  Thanks for any help.


-- 
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College of Liberal Arts and Sciences
Eastern Illinois University
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: stidolph@leland.Stanford.EDU (Wayne Stidolph)
Subject: Re: DIAMOND STEALTH DRIVERS NEEDED
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 21:33:24 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.194613.6204@msi.com> bill@west.msi.com writes:
>I walked into Diamond Computer Systems the other day to drop of my
>Diamond Stealth for repair.  I asked about OS/2 2.0 drivers and the best
>the tech support guy could tell me (after asking someone out back) was
>1Q93.  He wasn't very sure on the date on that either.

And when I emailed DCS Tech Support about a week ago, maybe two, they
responded (which is good) about a week later (which is bad) that I could
expect OS/2 drivers in 2Q93 (which is very bad).

I've ordered a Radius XGA for the new 'puter at work, and intend to buy
another for the machine at home. The Stealth I'm gonna give to my folks
(although my dealer offered me $150 for it on a trade-in...hmmm). But
I'm not gonna order a card on *my* money until I see the sucker work -
no more believing in drivers "RSN"!

  Wayne


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From: aaa@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Simon Fowler)
Subject: Re: Seamless Windows Missing .DLLs
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:42:51 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Atlanta GA

In article <kspousta.728101206@qualcom>, kspousta@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Kevin Spousta) writes:
> This is probably a FAQ, and I'm probably going to answer my own question again,
> but what the hell...
> 
> When I fire off a couple of Windows apps they start to come up and then quit with 
> a nasty "Missing blah.dll file" and then quit.  Do I have to copy these .DLL
> files to my DLL directory OR do I need to add statements to my path statement
> (or would that be LIBPATH?)

You need to add them to the WINOS2 (or is it the WINOS2\SYSTEM) directory.

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: PNIELSEN@FINABO.ABO.FI (Peter Nielsen)
Subject: Re: IBM PS/2
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:24:07 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

> I would like to know if the MCA bus version of the PS/2 with a SCSI drive
> will support multiple SCSI devices such as a CD-ROM and a tape backup.

Yes It certainly will!

> If not is the Adaptec 1640 a good choice to use?   

As good as the IBM... (One thing that is better with Adaptec is that you get
UNIX support.... but on the other hand, who wants that ;-) 

BUT One *VERY* IMPORTANT THING TO CONSIDER:

OS/2 has a bug that makes it impossible to use a 16-bit MCA SCSI adapter IF you
have more than 16Mb of RAM installed.

I have 64Mb of RAM and I tried Adaptec's 1542 MCA SCSI adapter. It is indeed as
fast as the IBM 32-bit w/cache that I now have, but I could not use it because
THERE IS A BUG IN OS/2 that makes 16-bit MCA cards access memory above 16 MB
erroneously!!!  (IBM is *NOT* making big effort to fix this bug... :(  )

Conclusion: If you are going to have > 16 Mb RAM you should get a
            32-bit MCA or EISA adapter...  
            (Note: there is nothing such as a 32-bit ISA !)

Regards,
	Peter
From: gt0040a@prism.gatech.EDU (Tom Sorensen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Must I have to reformat to install the new OS/2 2.1 beta
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:23:57 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In <1993Jan21.175345.28327@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:

>In article <1993Jan20.231908.23815@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>>Hi all, I just got the OS/2 2.1 Beta, I'm using OS/2 2.0 GA now,
>>>can I just put the 2.1 Beta over my 2.0 GA?
>>Highly recommended.

>...that you reformat.  (Sorry for the confusion.)

I agree with you (that you should reformat).  I installed the beta last week
and OS/2 crashes on me if I try to multitask two DOS apps. Win-OS/2 also just
crashes.

Question- I'll gladly format and reinstall, but how can I keep my GA+SP desktop?
I've got WPSBackup but is it safe to restore the 2.0 desktop (w/ INI files)
over the 2.1 one? I really don't want to deal with going through all the
customization again.

E-mail would be preferred, but a followup is OK.
         Tom Sorensen
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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: is os/2 a dead end?
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:53:46 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1993Jan23.4881.39317@dosgate> "bill dehaan" <bill.dehaan@canrem.com> writes:
>In message <72757101915772@flame.ra.anl.gov>, sparapan@flame.ra.anl.gov
>(RA Sparapani RA/208/xxx gwing) writes:
>
>>I think that IBM intended all along for OS/2 to be a professional
>>and corporate operating system, just like CP/M was fifteen years ago.
>
>Oh, that's encouraging ;-) Look where CP/M is today...

CP/M was THE operating system for Z-80 based machines.  If Digital
Research wasn't out at a golf game when IBM came looking for an OS
(Microsoft and DOS was a second choice), we'd all be using CP/M-86
today.  CP/M was killed by IBM's lack of support, not from
technicalities or user opinion.

And 7 years of being the only OS around is nothing to sneeze at.  If
OS/2 remains for 7 years, it'll be impressive.  The only reason DOS
remained that long was that there was no competition.
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From: pfr@psun2.hmi.de (Fritsch_Wolfgang)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 port of Win cardfile somewhere ?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 15:13:42 +0100
Organization: Hahn-Meitner-Institut Berlin
NNTP-Posting-Host: psun2.hmi.de

hacker@cco.caltech.edu (Jonathan Bruce Hacker) writes:

>The WLO extensions allow the windows cardfile program to run under OS/2 without
>windows itself.  Give it a try.  WLO dll's are on hobbes.

Yes, I found THIS version of cardfile very nice. So here goes my reason for
installing WinOs2. Saves 7 Mb disc space. 

Wolfgang Fritsch
pfr@psun2.hmi.de
From: merrill@optima.UUCP (Darren Merrill)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1 Beta BUG REPORT
Date: 23 Jan 93 03:09:21 GMT

From article <1993Jan22.130447.15773@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>, by etorrem@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (engelbert.jgm.torremans):
> 1. The IBM1FLPY.ADD driver does not allow access to DD floppies.
>    Replacing the beta driver with the driver form june 2, 1992 fixed
>    this and I have again access to my 720k diskettes.
I do not see this problem.  I can manipulate 720k diskettes normally
within 2.1b.

-darren
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From: schepers@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Peter Schepers)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: PSPM2 under 2.1 Beta
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:05:14 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo

In article <5311@gos.ukc.ac.uk> djn@ukc.ac.uk (D.J.Neades) writes:
>In article <24JAN199311361195@zeus.tamu.edu> lmp8913@zeus.tamu.edu (PRESTON, LISA M) writes:
>>	Under the 2.1 Beta, PSPM reports any running DOS Programs 
>>with the name "-zombie-".
>
>You could try using PMps, a similar utility. I've just uploaded it to
>hobbes, so it's in /pub/uploads/pmps.zip at the moment.
>
>PMps reports running DOS programs as vdm/Virtual DOS Machine.
>Its tree view of processes is more like the drive objects' (but without
>icons) than PSPM's, and is considerably more compact.
>


How difficult would it be to have PMPS display the name of the process
running in the VDM, instead of just saying 'VDM'? Granted, this is an
improvement over PSPM, but this would be one step better. Also, how about
adding the 'Switch To' button like in PSPM? This was one feature I always
used. I found it easier to keep PMPS up on the screen at all times, and
just using it to switch tasks, rather than calling up the task list.

Peter.
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From: adhir@wam.umd.edu (Al Dhir)
Subject: Re: MMPM/2 and PC speaker
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:06:19 GMT

>
>No go -- that will not function in Win-OS/2.  The speaker driver
>requires total control of the machine.
>
Uuh...I guess I was dreaming then, when I used to use it with the old 
WinOS2 3.1 beta.  :) .  Actually, Tim, the PC Speaker driver works very
nicely under WinOS/2.  Go ahead and install it.

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From: stephen@borg_208.cc.ncsu.edu (Stephen Jackson)
Subject: Re: Is OS/2 a dead end?
Keywords: So quoth Bill Gates
Reply-To: stephen@ncsu.edu
Organization: NCSU
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:11:44 GMT


Well, according to Triangle Computing News' report from Comdex '92 (computer
convention featuring hardware and software vendors), OS/2 2.0 won three awards.
Best new product for 1992, and two others which I don't remember off the top of 
my head.  
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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: CD-ROM stuff/multi
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:41:40 GMT

In article <1jo53mINNnha@almaak.usc.edu> durby@almaak.usc.edu (Dennis Durby) writes:
>I have ordered a Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM this week, to be connected to my 
>AMI SCSI-2 adapter, which uses the AHA154X drivers. My vendor has 
>suggested that I purchase and ATI (multimedia??) Card to go with it, 
>which apparently is much less expensive than the Soundblaster, but 
>which uses the SB drivers. The ATI also seemingly comes with speakers.
>My question is this: Is the ATI an okay card to use under OS/2? If 
>not, which card seems best???  Is the SB or the PAS superior to this 
>ATI card??? TIA!!

I would stay away from it.  Try one of the Creative Labs SoundBlasters
or the IBM M-Audio adapter (which is available in both AT bus and
Microchannel models, as is the SoundBlaster).  The PAS drivers are in
beta right now, so I would still lean toward either the IBM or
SoundBlaster.

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