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From: wpc@po.CWRU.Edu (William P. Claspy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Mail order questions!
Date: 30 Dec 1992 18:47:15 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


Hey now, all you who are unfortunate to be at work/school during the holidaze!

I sent off my mail order today (yes, I know I'm two days late!) and I have
two questions:

Will I still get decent tickets for Richfield even though I'm two days late?
Last summer's shows had lots of tickets available, even on the days of the 
shows, so I'm assuming that this ain't the biggest drawing venue.

Second, on the "Pay to" blank on the Money order, I put the whole shebang-
"Grateful Dead Ticket Sales- Spring Tour I- Richfield [2-3/13, 2-3/14]" in 
little writing on two lines in the box.  Is this OK?  Do they actually endorse
it with all that gobbledygook?

Gots my fingers crossed!
Bill
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From: zane@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Sameer Parekh)
Subject: rmg FAQ & MO
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 04:42:52 GMT
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL


	Could someone please send me the rmg FAQ page? I'm specifically
looking for Mail Order instructions. (But I am interested in the entire
thing, so please send the whole thing.)
	Thanks. Peace,
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Tue Dec 29 22:25:10 1992 US Debt: $4,188,547,993,310 Per capita: $16,359
From: jberger@novell.com (John Berger)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Yay!  Dead not as popular?!?
Date: 22 Dec 92 18:26:35 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.

In article <Bzo9u3.3C1@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay) writes:
>From: jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay)
>Subject: Yay!  Dead not as popular?!? 
>Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:56:12 GMT
>
>TOP TOURS:  With 99% of box office recpeits tallied, here's the final ranking 
>of 1992's top-grossing tours, according to the Jan. 8 issue of "Perfomance
>Magazine":
>
>U2, $67.9 Million (M$); Metallica, M$40.4; Guns'n'Roses, M$37.2; GRATEFUL
>DEAD, M$31.9; Bruce Springsteen, M$27.9; ........

Amazing.  4th place, and they took a five-month hiatus(sp?).  I wonder where 
they would rank if they counted all of the mail order ticket sales that were 
refunded for the end of the summer tour......or if we had a New Year's 
show....
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From: "Seth M. Dworken" <p00123@psilink.com>
Subject: Dead Sighting
Organization: KC3IL, Fairless Hills PA, USA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 03:30:35 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink-DOS (3.3)

Mickey Hart all about drumming and healing in the new Yoga Journal.

More after I read the article!

-Seth     "Now is the test of the boomerang."
From: ST702459@brownvm.brown.edu (Jordan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Hello Seattle
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 23:09:07 EST
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island  USA
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News-Software: BNN via BNN_POST v1.0 beta


I got about 2 days left of hacking out my thesis before I kiss the
East Coast and student life goodbye and make the move to Seattle,
and I'm wondering if any like-minded folks have tips for me about
what to look for, good local bands (no grunge!), nice places to have a
beer and knock some balls around, etc. and, more importantly, if
anyone knows of a reasonably priced 3-bedroom.

E-mail me, eh?

ODC: I'll play hot mid-seventies tapes in the 3-bedroom you find for me.

J

Going where the climate suits my clothes...not. (please excuse the
pop-ism)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: tnf@well.sf.ca.us (David Gans)
Subject: Space Music at the Chabot Science Center 1/93
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: ca
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 02:23:53 GMT

 
 MUSIC UNDER THE STARS at the Chabot Science Center Planetarium
 
 * Hear unusual music
 * Observe the heavens through large telescopes
 * Learn the constellations of Spring
 * Witness exciting science demonstrations
 * View vintage science films
 
 
 Friday and Saturday, January 8 and 9
         ROBERT RICH: Electro-Acoustic Space Music
         The music of Robert Rich blends the rhythms of Africa and Indonesia
         with electronic soundscapes, ancient tunings and the cyclic melodies
         of minimalism.  Using synthesizers, bamboo flutes, percussion and
         steel guitar, Robert Rich will perform pieces from his internation-
         ally-acclaimed Hearts of Space solo albums RAINFOREST, GAUDI, and
         SOMA.  He has performed in caves, cathedrals and planetaria in
         Europe, Canada and the Unioted States.
 
 Friday and Saturday, January 15 and 16
         HENRY KAISER AND FRIENDS: Space Music Improvisation
         Henry Kaiser is widely recognized as one of the most creative and
         innovative guitarists, improvisers and producers in the field of
         rock, jazz and experimental music.  The California-based musician
         is one of the most extensively recorded as well, having appeared on
         more than one hundred different albums.  Henry and KINGSLEY WIGHTMAN
         founded the Chabot Planetarium music series fifteen years ago.
         Henry's talented friends, DAVID GANS, GARY LAMBERT and CHRIS MUIR,
         will join him on guitars and electronics for exploration of the
         unknown, outer reaches of space music.
 
 8pm sharp!  Admission $6 adults, $3 under 12.
 
 Rotary Chabot Planetarium at the Chabot Science Center
 4917 Mountain Blvd., Oakland CA 94619.
 (Off Seminary, where Highway 13 and Highway 580 meet)
 
 For reservations and additional information, call 510-530-3480
 9am-5pm Monday through Friday


-- 

	David Gans	tnf@well.sf.ca.us
			{apple,pacbell,hplabs,ucbvax}!well!tnf
From: parilis@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Gary Parilis)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: SETLIST 92.12.19
Date: 4 Jan 93 00:12:39 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Dec20.090011.13311@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> sjeck@isi.com (Steve -- The Other One) writes:

> During the second
  ^^^^^^
> set, Mr. Garcia shed the green t-shirt for his standard black t-shirt.


DURING the 2nd set?!  Ugh!

- Gary P
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 11:14:11 EST
From: <MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: dead and dead-head sighting!!


In article <1992Dec21.152201.3137@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>, Brian Jeffrey Cook
<bjpc@engin.umich.edu> says:
>
>well first of all on MST3000 on the sci-fi channel.  there was this really bad
>movie on (a given!!) and there was some drum playing.  there was a line about
>needing some help drumming, and the line was something like, "maybe we can
>get bill kruetzman (spelling??) to play along..."

On one of this weekend's episodes of MST3K I caught a commercial where they
were selling a package deal of The Dead Movie, Backstage Pass and One from
the Vaults.  I don't remember the price, but it was the first time I ever
saw the commercial.  On a show I watch regularly :-).  Pretty cool.

Joe
From: Mike.Swartzbeck@p816.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Swartzbeck)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: It's my party...
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1993 15:01:33 -0500

Yee-haw, pal. Lucky you, now _there's_ a freekin' birthday party!

Sorry it's late, but beginning at the end of work yesterday, I swore off
computers until the day after the party, which means I'm probably behind as hell
on email.

Congratulations, another year younger.

I'll be 36 myself on March 16 (Late Boomers Unite!); I'm hoping, as in 3/90, to
get myself a taping seat for that night, a serious birthday present to myself.
So, what did you get yourself for _your_ birthday?
From: wls1@cornell.edu (Bill Sloan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Lookin for Star Lake Tapes
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:33:00 GMT
Organization: Cornell University
X-Xxdate: Mon, 21 Dec 92 13: 47:30 GMT
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X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7

These were my favorite shows of this past summer and I'd love copies.  If
any bodies would like to help out let me know.
From: Henry_Burdett_Messenger@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Oakland tape tree
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 10:34:18 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Me, too!

I missed the tree signups for 12/12 and 12/13... anybody need a DAT->analog
branch?
				- hbm
From: david@c-cat.UUCP (Dave)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: if THERE ARE NO MORE DEAD shows this year
Date: 24 Dec 92 16:50:56 GMT
Organization: Intergalactic Rest Area For Weary Travellers

if there are no more dead shows this year, can someone please post
the setlists for alll 1992 shows ... thanks

                                                       -David

China Cat System     
(301)604-5976 1200-14,400 8N1
david@sandr.com 
...uunet!sandr!cherise!c-cat!david
From: mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Wind screens
Date: 23 Dec 1992 05:21:49 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdacs.ucsd.edu

Yeah, I always thought you studio types put that windscreen in front of
my face to keep me from rusting your mics with spit.

But, hey, we *professional* vocalist never actually eject fluid from our
mouths when we sing, right?  (extreme facetiousness: for the imagination
impaired).

Michael Breen
singing and philosophizing
(and bone dry)
From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
Subject: Re: How About Some talk about Hot Drummers!
Date: 30 Dec 92 16:32:26 GMT
Organization: Educational Computing Network

In article <BzMwwF.3GA@irvine.com> dany@irvine.com (rorshach) writes:
>This *somewhat* follows this thread...
>
>...can anyone reccommend any albums of really primitive/intense
>percussion oriented music?  I *love* an intense tribal sound: like the
>rhythm solo in Peter Gabriel's _Rhythm of the Heat_ & Pigface's
>_Bushmaster_.  Not Jaluka or Stewart Copeland.  Music to pierce your
>body by.
>

Get SABAR by DUDU N'DIAYE ROSE, on Melodie 49135-2.  A French company.
A group of Senegalese percussionists.

Sunny Ade.

This is the source of Gabriel's stuff, in fact he has collaborated with
Youssou N'Dour.

From jazz:

John Coltrane KULU SE MAMA, from The Major Works Of John Coltrane.

Sun Ra, the MAGIC CITY, ASTRO BLACK, or CELESTIAL ROADS.

Duke Ellington:  Afro-bossa


Jeff
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
From: kemp@wx.atmos.uiuc.edu (john_kemp)
Subject: Re: Drum Video: Tommy Aldridge
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 23:01:10 GMT

smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead) writes:
>actually). Basically, he shows two things in the video: How to play a cool
>5th note pattern between the hands and feet (on basses); and how to twirl
>sticks. The other stuff he shows about basic double-bass playing is

So how do you twirl sticks?  I'm ashamed to admit I have never figured
out the trick to this impressive albeit probably useless skill.

Twirly, twirly, twirly,
JohnKemp@uiuc.edu

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From: dchavez@tincup.enet.dec.com (Dale J. Chavez - Colo Spgs)
Subject: Drum Videos
Reply-To: dchavez@tincup.enet.dec.com (Dale J. Chavez - Colo Spgs)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 16:20:10 GMT


I'd like to start a thread that relates to the discussion/reviews of drum
videos.  I'm starting to accumluate quite a collection (just ordered the
new Dave Weckl and Simon Phillips videos).  The next posting from me will
contain a capsule review of some videos.
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From: smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead)
Subject: Re: Jeff Porcaro
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 19:39:58 GMT

rmascaro@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Robert Mascaro) writes:

>I've just finished reading Jeff Porcaro's tribute in modern drummer
>(staggered that it took until now to print!!) and I'm looking for what
>you think are the most mind boggling fantastic tracks that you think he
>has drummed, let me know.

   I was never a real fan of Jeff's, so I don't know offhand of anything
but his Toto work. Sorry.

>Second, I'm in Australia and receive modern drummer monthly in the
>middle of the month due. In the states does the mag come out before its
>publication month or what?? I get the impression that it does, could
>someone enlighten me!

   Yep, almost all magazines in the States come out at least a month before
the publication date. I just got the February MD a week or two ago. It has
a dorky picture of Steve Smith on the cover. :)

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From: rea@Turing.ORG (Rea Kloski)
Subject: Re: How About Some talk about *Hand* Drummers!
Keywords: hand drum recommendations
Organization: The Turing Project, Public Access Internet Host
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 06:10:46 GMT

I agree with most everything William said, but I have an addition:

Dumbeks.

These drums are fabulous.  Ceramic or metal, they are a convenient size
and have the variety of tone (ringy, flat highs, beautiful vibrational lows
and a lot in between) that most goblet drums have.  Especially when tuned
low (only possible on metal dumbeks with tuning screws).

Another good point: they are readily available for $80 or less.  Two known
sources: Mideast Manufacturing, Melbourne FL; House of Musical Traditions,
Takoma Park, MD (301) 270-9090.

I have had a metal dumbek for about three years and love it.  It is lightweight
and sturdy (the ceramic dumbek is neither :( )

More hand drumming stuff out there?

Peace, Rea Klosky
 


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From: dany@irvine.com (rorshach)
Subject: Re: How About Some talk about Hot Drummers!
Organization: Irvine Compiler Corp., Irvine, California, USA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:19:26 GMT

This *somewhat* follows this thread...

...can anyone reccommend any albums of really primitive/intense
percussion oriented music?  I *love* an intense tribal sound: like the
rhythm solo in Peter Gabriel's _Rhythm of the Heat_ & Pigface's
_Bushmaster_.  Not Jaluka or Stewart Copeland.  Music to pierce your
body by.

I have an Alesis SR-16 and this is the sound I want to get out of it.
So far the best I can figure is a lot of tom toms and a heavy kick,
but I suffer from lack of inspiration.  So if anyone knows what I'm
talking about, all reccs. will be greatly appreciated!  The more
frenzied and primitive the better.

Please cc any posts via email 'cause my newsreader is flaky.

Dan Y (dany@irvine.com)
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From: franzoni@sixter.var.dec.com (Mauro Franzoni)
Subject: Re: modern drummer
Reply-To: franzoni@sixter.var.dec.com (Mauro Franzoni)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 13:14:28 GMT

In article <1hb46gINNnk5@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>, rmascaro@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Robert
Mascaro) writes:
|> I hear that Dave's new album Heads Up also is brilliant, is it better
|> than Masterplan?? I would appreciate any comments, respond or mail to
|> me.
Great, another "must have" album ... but, honestly, I loved Masterplan much more
... it was
more "real", Heads Up feels a little `synthetic', with less feeling (probably
overwhelmed by
technic) - anyway, the more I listen at it, the more I'm impressed.

mf
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From: williamt@athena.Eng.Sun.COM (Dances with Drums)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion,talk.religion.newage
Subject: Yoga Journal -- Drumming to the Rhythms of Life
Date: 31 Dec 1992 07:57:00 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Reply-To: williamt@athena.Eng.sun.com (Dances with Drums)
NNTP-Posting-Host: athena


	This month's (Jan/Feb) Yoga Journal has an article about the
Healing Powers of Percussion as the cover article.  Drummers Arthur
Hull (of Village Music Circles and West Cliff Percussion in Santa Cruz)
and Mickey Hart (Grateful Dead Lead Drummer) are pictured on the
cover and quoted at length inside.  Check it out!  

-wat-
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and the world will follow our lead into the future.
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From: dlg1@quads.uchicago.edu (deborah lynn gillaspie)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
Subject: Re: "My first set," sort of... ideas?
Keywords: drum?, jazz, bop
Date: 3 Jan 93 20:14:18 GMT
Reply-To: dlg1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago

Any suggestions for a first set to play jazz and bop (as opposed to
metal and other things that require big racks...)? My guess (as a beginner)
would be an 18" or 20" bass, with a snare, mounted upper tom or two, 
and a ride cymbal and hi-hat as the minimum. Added could be a floor tom
and a crash? What do you think of as a minimum set for jazz and bop? Any
suggestions as to kits, or do you assemble components like with good
stereos?<g> What is a minimum set likely to run? Which cymbals are best
for this type of music, and what sizes? 


I just got a used 20" cymbal as a gift, together with a cymbal 
stand that's solid enough that the cats can't knock it over, even 
with all five working together.<g> I picked it up yesterday and set it
up. Is there any way to reduce annoying overtones? This sounds good
for the first three or four strokes, then a deep ringing overtone builds up
that swallows what I'm trying to play. It's one of my brother-in-law's
that he gave me to practice with, he didn't use it for gigs. Since
I'm a beginner, I'm not in a position to know whether this is just the
mark of a crummy old cymbal, or if there's just something else I should
be doing to make it sound better... (Like switching to brushes?)<grin>

Got Elvin Jones' Live In Japan for Xmas. WOW!!!! Also, the early Chick
Webb. He really ran a tight band, SUPER ensemble work. Too bad you can
hardly hear Chick, but I guess he was very self-effacing both on the
stand and off.

Thanks, --Debbie


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From: bobf@verdix.com (Bob Foery)
Subject: Re: Xmas toys - Alesis D4
Organization: Verdix Corp
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 14:24:12 GMT

>> that can accomodate a double pedal.  I was looking
>> at the KicKat.  I found a store here in N.J. selling
>> it for $110.00.  I also called Sam Ash and they want
>> $179.00.  Does anybody have anything good or bad to
>> say about this ?  

>That $110 price seems unlikely.  They cost about $200
>around here in stores not known for robbing customers.
>I'm having some problems with it, but I can't isolate
>the problems to the pedal, the DrumKat-EZ, or the
>SR-16 sound module.

My 1992/3 Thoroughbred Music Catalog has the kicKAT for $179.

FYI, they also have the fatKAT (beaterless, self-contained
trigger pedal) for $139.  One can "chain" two of these
pedals together.

Thoroughbred's Order Line is 1-800-800-4654.  Information
number is 1-813-237-5597 (Tampa, Fla.)



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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
From: smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead)
Subject: Re: modern drummer
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 21:16:38 GMT

rmascaro@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Robert Mascaro) writes:

>My other dilemma is which new Chick Corea album I should buy. I have Eye
>of the Beholder (which I think is grossly underrated) and Inside Out,
>but I understand that he done a couple of albums since, which are the
>better ones??, should I get Akoustic Band (I hear this is brilliant)??.

   I'd recommend Akoustic Band or Elektric Band (self-titled). Elektric Band
is very diverse and has some great tunes.

>I hear that Dave's new album Heads Up also is brilliant, is it better
>than Masterplan??

   I'd say it's better simply because Dave is that much older and it includes
Trigger Happy. Every drummer should hear Trigger Happy at least once in their
life.

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
From: j-germuska@nwu.edu (Joe Germuska)
Subject: Re: How About Some talk about *Hand* Drummers!
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 19:47:01 GMT

I'm not much of a hand-drummer yet! (but plan to start scoping out some skins:
which could start a new thread -- anyone know the ranges I should look in as
a beginner who doesn't want to spend a fortune, but doesn't want crap? I'm
thinking of either bongos or a tar (or other frame drum) but might consider
a conga or tablas, although I think that either would be wasted on a beginner.
I did see a pair of ceramic tablas for about $100 - seemed really cheap?)

Anyway, as for listening, I do plenty of that! If you like Planet Drum, you
should check out At The Edge: it has more of a mellow new agey feel, but it's
very cool.  Also, Airto's newest album, The Other Side of This, features just 
about everybody from the PD tour somewhere or other.  Also a little more new-
agey than PD, but interesting and cool.

So, aside from people who played on Planet Drum, all of whom I really dig:

Afro-Cuban jazz usually has some amazing percussion -- Dizzy Gillespie always
pulls out great percussionists, including Chano Pozo and Airto, and probably
most of the others somewhere.
- Tito Puente: he's cool! more cuban jazz
Bahia Black and Trio da Paz are a couple of brazilian jazz groups with great
percussion: all of Olodum (famed for joining Paul Simon on "The Obvious Child"
are in Bahia Black, at least on the one album I know, "Ritual Beating System"
along with Wayne Shorter and Herbie Hancock (not percussionists, but cool
musicians)

Of course, Santana also has a habit of rallying excellent percussionists: try
Lotus, a double live CD from Tokyo, 1974: trippy sounds and propulsive
percussion!

Another band that often has amazing percussion, both hand and not, is Dead
Can Dance: they are a kind of gothicy medieval band from Australia.  When I
saw them in concert, they concluded their set with an amazing 8-person 
percussion jam that just built, crested, you were afraid it was going to just
explode with energy! and then it went UP!!!  Whew!  Not all of their music is
percussion heavy, but they use it well and thoroughly on several songs.

That's it off the top of the head.  But a good question, and one I look forward
to hearing more answers to!

PEace,
	Joe
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