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Subject:      CD's Plus

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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 11:54:00 EDT
From:         "alt.wasted.time" <TIFFANYDE@URVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Femmes/B-52's

Anyone else going to the Violent Femmes / B-52's concert this Sunday up at
wherever it is?  Merry Weather Post Pavilion?  I KNOW THAT'S SPELLED WRONG BUT
YOU GET THE POINT.

Anyway, I'll be there if anyone cares.  Getting free tickets no less.  Gotta
love it when your girlfriend's parents love ya.

later days and sunny rays,
                          D.T>
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Derek Tiffany          | TIFFANYDE@URVAX.URICH.EDU | URICH, cuz you gotta be
University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu    |<= djt{zero}u@aurora...
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"i think i've reached that point
 where every wish has come true
 and tired disguised oblivion
 is everything i do"
                                - The Cure
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 11:46:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      Quicksilver Messenger Service

>From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>

>On Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:44:38 EDT Michael H. Bloom said:
>>
>>John Cippolina throughout Quicksilver Messenger Service's _Happy Trails_
>>   The Rhino two-CD Quicksilver compilation contains almost every important
>>   lick. If only they didn't edit "Who Do You Love"...
>>

>Knowing this (thanx!), I will definitely *not* buy the compilation.

Well, my viewpoint is the compilation has just about everything I would
want from the Dino Valente era.  Those albums tended to have *one* song
I would really like and the rest of the album would be filler.  So getting
the compilation seems better than picking up the individual albums (if
they ever do come out on CD) and programming just the hits.  I do wish
the compilation had "Peace By Piece" from the Gary Duncan "keep the name
alive" album.

Besides... I already have _Happy Trails_ on CD. 8-)

While I understand and appreciate your objection to edited versions,
isn't the _Happy Trails_ "Who Do You Love" a collection of edits already,
with different sections pulled from different concerts?

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 10:01:21 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Blind patriotism -- no OMC
              28 Aug 1992 10:53:32 -0400 from <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>

On Fri, 28 Aug 1992 10:53:32 -0400 Russ Gelinas said:
>My one point to Leonard:  You know, it's not that you have to be
>homo-loving or godless or whatever.  It's that if *someone else*
>want's to be a homosexual atheist, then that's ok.  It's *none of
>my business*, and it's especially *not the government's business*.
>To paraphrase Chris Robinson of the Black Crowes "The US was founded
>on freedom.  The Land of the Free.  Sounds like a great idea.  Let's
>get to it!"
The Land of the free, so that means we can pray in schools now, can i pick and
choose who i hire regardless, can i have a nativity scene in public,
that's great news when did this land of the free start happening i've missed it
My child can go to the school he chooses now, this is wonderful news
BTW name an instance when the gov said you can't be gay or atheist I'll wait
now we can fly the confderate flag now that we all have this freedom
pick who we want in our private clubs this is great, thanks for the update
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 11:25:15 EDT
From:         jcs <GE777009@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Bob Seger and selling out

>
>Yes, Bob Seger has licensed his song "Like a Rock" to Chevrolet, but
>he was not selling out.  For years he rejected all commercial offers
>exactly because he did not want to sell out.  Then some fan asked him
>why he didn't do a car commercial to help out the ailing industry.
>(Seger is a Michigan native, and the depressed car industry is
>especially painful here in Michigan.)  So Seger agreed to the commercial
>as an attempt to boost the hometown economy.  Yes, I am sure he did
>accept money from Chevrolet, but doing that commercial was not selling
>out.  Seger's selling out was back around "Night Moves" when he
>realized Ballad Bob sold a lot more records than Rockin' Robert did. 8-(
>
oh come on. Is this really true? I never heard this before!
i want some evidence please!
why didn't he just do a benefit concert or something?

seems a bit egotistical to think that his dumb song could
boost a failing industry that has been following a sort of
"binge and purge" financial plan.

not impressed,
jcs
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 08:37:00 CDT
From:         schneider@MDCGWY.MDC.COM
Subject:      Cancel my subscription

From:	NAME: Henry E. Schneider
	FUNC: J745
	TEL: (713) 280-1775                   <SCHNEIDER.HENRY@A1@SSDHOU>
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MythicalMark,

Take my address of ALLMUSIC!  My address is HSCHNEIDER@MDCGWY.MDC.COM.

This is my second request.

Henry
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 08:22:14 PDT
From:         Mike Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: You say you want a revolution

Realise for every person who has sold out, there is another performer
who hasn't.
The underground people who want to keep music honest.
I can't think of any right now, because I haven't seen them on TV.
Oh, yeah...how about Dead Can Dance?
Cocteau Twins?
The Shoegazing alternative scene?
Here's a stretch, but how about Joe Jackson, the guy who said he would never
do a video again, because the very act of doing so is selling out?
I'd better stop, in case someone says, "Hey man, I saw Cocteau Twins
doing a Pepsi commercial."

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M
                                ?
(the basic formula:  Rock + Pop = Sellout
                     Rock - Pop = Integrity
                 so       2*Pop = Sellout - Integrity)
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:54:30 PDT
From:         Mike Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      I'm back

Hello there!

I apologize for leaving and not saying anything;
I tried to send a message to allmusic about my departure
but it apparently never got through.

I went up to Oregon for a vacation.

Nothing new. Bought a trumpet and a Harmon mute to play around on and
bought a Peter Gabriel CD "Sledgehammer"--the one with the tune
"Don't Break this Rhythm".
Not too bad.

I also got "Us". Just kidding.

Hope I can catch up to what's new on the net...

 3
M
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:47:00 CDT
From:         TXCV8@ISUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Portal ble stereo systems

Hi!

I'm looking for a poratalbe ble stereo with these features:

CD player
Dual cassette
Digital tuner
Detachable speakers

It wouldn't have to be portalble--a mini-bookshelf system would be fine too.
I'd like to get thisone for less than 300 bucks, if possible.

I looked at a Schneider, but I'm scared to buy it since it's an off-brand.
Has anyone ever had experience wiht ith this company?  I'd appreciate any an
   d all
input.

Thanks a bunch!

Benae
txcv8@isuvax.bitnet

ps-Feel free to reply to me personally if you'td rather.  Thanks!!
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:44:38 EDT
From:         "Michael H. Bloom" <MHB@MITVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Favorite guitar solos, first pass

The coffee hasn't really taken effect yet, so I can't remember much, but
here's a few that come to mind:

Allan Holdsworth on "Fred," off Tony Williams Lifetime's _Believe It_
   The pacing of this is wonderful, he starts out with lingering single notes
   and gradually builds up to one of his blazing speed runs. He says it was a
   studio demo recording, not intended for release. What a card.

Frank Zappa on "The Uncle Meat Variations," off the Mothers' _Uncle Meat_
   The climactic string stretches at the end of the song. I also really like
   his acoustic solo on "My Guitar Wants to Kill Your Mama," among too many
   others to try to list.

John Goodsall on "Deadly Nightshade," off Brand X's _Masques_
   Not certain I got the song title right-- Morris Pert's long tune. See also
   Goodsall's composition "The Poke." There's a new Brand X record, a trio of
   Goodsall, bassist Percy Jones, and drummer Frank Katz, _X-Communication_.

Hans Reichel, all three of his tunes from Fred Frith's _Guitar Solos 2_
   Frith invited three other guitarists to contribute to his second collection,
   and these tracks didn't make it to the CD reissue. Fred's work is of course
   way cool-- check out "Hello Music" and "Out of Their Heads on Locoweed"--
   but Reichel has a gorgeous sense of flow, not unlike Jerry Garcia's noodling
   in the classic _Live Dead_ rendition of "Dark Star." (Lots of hammer-ons.)

Henry Kaiser on "Information Mechanics," from _Outside Pleasure_
   Starts with this chilling chordal blare, possibly the most haunting single
   noise I've ever heard out of a guitar. Then there's a bunch of gliding up
   and down the strings, eventually metamorphosing into "Pushin' Too Hard."
   The album is out of print, but the tune appears on a brand new compilation
   called _Lemon Fish Tweezer_.

Richard Thompson on "Calvary Cross," _I Want to See the Bright Lights Tonight_
   Sounds just like a bagpipe. There are zillions of great RT solos, but this
   one was a very early favorite.

John Cippolina throughout Quicksilver Messenger Service's _Happy Trails_
   The Rhino two-CD Quicksilver compilation contains almost every important
   lick. If only they didn't edit "Who Do You Love"...

Jorma Kaukonen on "Martha," from the Jefferson Airplane's _After Bathing at
   Baxter's_-- another pinnacle of exquisite phrasing and taste

Peter Green on "Jigsaw Puzzle Blues," from Fleetwood Mac's _English Rose_
   Green had the sweetest touch & vibrato of any of the British blues guys

Honorable mentions to: Zoot Horn Rollo from Captain Beefheart's Magic Band,
   Keith Richards for _Their Satanic Majesties Request_, Stevie Winwood for
   Traffic's "Medicated Goo," Davey Williams on Curlew's "St. Croix," Steve
   Howe on "Siberian Khatru" and _Fragile_, etc, etc, etc...

My secret too-embarrassing-to-reveal tastes include: I actually like many of
the old Moody Blues hits, especially the Justin Hayward tunes.
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 09:59:25 PDT
From:         Mike <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject: Re: other types of music

The Specials: the singles sollection
is a compilation of the band in question.
It has tunes like "A Message to You, Rudi",
"Ghost Town" and "Free Neslon Mandela".
It's a pretty good selection of stuff, but it has
only their stuff that was released as singles, hence the name.

For those who don't know, the Specials is a band that came out
around the time the Police were around (1977-1983).
They, along with the English Beat were influential in
forming the new wave of ska/reggae in the U.K. in the early 1980s.
The Specials had a characteristic sound, which was composed of
a basic Police-type minimalist band, but with keyboards and
a trombone player.  The trombone added a lot of color to their sound.

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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:40:56 EDT
From:         AISARMSTRONG%IST%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
Subject: Re: confessions

Billy Rae should not deserve no bad comment what so ever.  If anyone should
receive any comment it should be anyone in Rock Music.
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:11:00 EST
From:         gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL
Subject:      re: EXTREME
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>I heard a cut from Extreme's soon-to-be-released "Three Sides to Every
>Story"--I had never heard of them before (like so much else): I liked it,
>maybe not enough to buy but enough to be curious about who they are... very
>inventive; fun guitar work... Can anybody fill me in on the details?

>I also have been listening to the latest Black Crowes and Metallica albums.
>(I like them) Does this mean something (bad)?

>Sonia

Hey, you should check out their last album _Extreme II: Pornograffitti_.
It's got songs like "More Than Words" - an acpella duet that you no doubt have
heard on the radio, the acoustic "Hole Hearted", some hard rockers like
"It ('s a Monster)" and "Get The Funk Out." There is even a song on the album
"When I First Kissed You" that sounds like an old Frank Sinatra tune...probably
is. It's defintely not your average hard rock/heavy metal album that has 10
songs on it that all sound the same.

Nuno Bettencourt is an excellent guitarist.

Seeya,
Gary
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 11:53:06 EDT
From:         Gary Hanley <ghanley@DG-WEBO.WEBO.DG.COM>
Subject:      Re: You say you want a revolution
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              at Aug 27, 92 10:38 am

Mike on Mike:

>*ever* taken a walk through the woods, other than in Disneyland? Besides, the
>beat of his heart is the beat of cash registers all over America. He's also
>the one who licenced John Lennon to sell athletic shoes.

	Oh yeah, that's right. MJ owns most (all?) of the beatles songs,
so he sold John out. I remember hearing that the reason the Beatles
albums were so late being released in CD format was because MJ wanted
a bigger percentage than the business usually allows.

--
Regards,
    Gary Hanley
<ghanley@dg-webo.webo.dg.com>
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 11:35:00 EST
From:         gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL
Subject:      To Confess or not To Confess
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First Lenny sez:

>>Not trying to start trouble but i confess IMHO Stairway To Heaven is
>>one of the most over rated tunes in the history of R&R and
>>Jimmy Page is one of the most over rated Guitarist. Excellent producer/
>>arranger though.

Then, after the other Gary tells him this:

>       Well Lenny, you may not be trying to start trouble, but I
>can't think of a better way to than to take a shot at a popular
>band/guitarist.

He sez this:

>let me rephrase that i think Led Zep is incredible and Stairway to Heaven
>is by far one of the best R&R songs ever and J. Page is one of the best
>guitarist i've ever heard BTW could we add a Ray to that Lenny (Lenny Ray)
>also we all took shots at Billy Ray and several others and you kept quite
>what's the deal are you a fan of Page and the plagerizers (just kidding)

Do you realize that the only period (.) you used in this massive run-on
sentence was for an abbreviation?

What the hell kind of crap is this? First you say the song is over-rated, and
now it's one of the best? Make up your mind. Honestly, I think you just post
shit whether you have an opinion on it or not, just to start trouble.
I believe the phrase "Get A Life" fits.

...and use that period key for 'crissakes...it's above the space bar to the
right.

Seeya,
Yes, it's me, "Lord Netus" again
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 09:44:55 PDT
From:         David Malbuff <SPGDAM@UCCVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      re: you say you want a revolution

On Thu, 27 Aug 1992 11:36:00 EST John McIntyre said:
>If I remember correctly, Rick's walking pharmacies and promiscuity remarks
>applied to the Amboy Dukes whose best exemplar of pharmaceutical usage
>(and their best song IMHO) was "Journey To The Center Of The Mind", one
>of the all-time acid classic.  So why was Ted Nugent associating with
>those drug warriors?  Well, Ted has claimed that he thought the lyrics
>were refering to *drug-free* mind expansion, you know, like meditation...

I always liked what Dave Marsh said about "Journey to the Center of Your
Mind": 'It sounds like the psychedelic equivalent of a take-out pizza
and a case of beer'...

I knew there was a reason I liked that song. I like Ted, too. He
doesn't sound like a Republican to me, just an individualist. Right
or wrong, he goes his own way. I haven't heard the song, but "Don't
Tread On Me" is a great slogan. It defines the spirit of the original
American Revolution.

David
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:03:07 EDT
From:         "Michael H. Bloom" <MHB@MITVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: EXTREME

On Tue, 1 Sep 1992 13:50:35 GMT Janne Salmi said:
>but as far as I know a capella is anything that has no tonal
>accompaniment.

If you want the real boring etymology, "a capella" means "in the chapel." What
it meant musically was an ensemble that was all the same type of instrument--
all crumhorns or all sackbuts (which is meant to illustrate how far back this
usage dates), as opposed to a mixed ensemble-- the church must have had weird
union rules. Nowadays it's commonly used to indicate a performance of just
voices. The Todd Rundgren album entitled _A Capella_ features Todd's voice as
the source of every sound-- although several of his vocal sounds are sampled,
stretched out of shape via various digital taffy pulls, triggered via rhythm
machines, and in various other ways removed from the realm of what you could
do with your voice. You could argue whether it's really a capella. Similarly,
the vocal quartet Electric Phoenix, specializing in new music, does a lot of
stuff with tape accompaniment, real-time electronic processing on the voices,
etc. Is their stuff a capella? I don't know, but I do find it fascinating.

They appear on a CD I just picked up called _Flora_, a collection of four
pieces by MIT computer composer guru Tod Machover. The Electric Phoenix piece
is called "Famine," one of a set of four pieces they commissioned, from four
different composers, on the subjects of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse :-)
It features the ensemble, plus an accompanying tape consisting of other sounds
made by the same singers-- whispers, grunts, groans, gutturals, sibilants and
whatnot-- is it still a capella? The other tracks on the CD include one that
was originally derived from a vocal via computer processing but has no real
time vocal component, plus two for live instruments and "hyper-instruments"
with real time computer tweaking. The last tune, "Bug-Mudra," is practically
progressive rock-- lots of intricate intertwining guitar/synth licks. Good
stuff, particularly recommended to John McIntyre.
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From:         "OUT,
              OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      alt.fan.peter.hammill being changed

Administrative information:

        The announced newsgroup alt.fan.peter.hammill is frantically being
changed to alt.fan.peter-hammill after the flood of messages from people
threatening to crucify me :) for starting another level in the news hierar-
chy.
        Apologies to all - the "old" group survived one day, not bad! See
you on the "new" one...

        Ciao, Marco
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 11:54:03 EDT
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Subject:      READ THIS (about subscriptions)

Subscribers new and old take note:

   Due to the large amount of returned mail I get every day from
lists that I manage I have written and implemented programs to
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message will be sent to tell you that you were deleted from the
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   If you logon one day and find that you have not received mail
from one (or both) of these lists, try subscribing to the list. If
you are already subscribed, a message will tell you that "your entry
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   I apologize for the inconvenience this sometimes causes, but it's
the only way I can deal with the amount of rejected mail I get
(sometimes 100's of them in one day!). If you miss any discussion
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ALLMUSIC and CINEMA-L.

-Mike the listowner guy
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:38:00 PDT
From:         Christopher Harry <IZZYFC1@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Satriani !?!?!?!

> I can't believe I'm asking this question, but have any of you heard Satriani's
> latest: (I think it's called) Extremity ... the Extremist?

        Yes. It's good. Not as good as Surfin With the Alien, though.


> I heard a cut from it which is getting a lot of airplay, Summer Song (??) and
> I actually LIKE it (I used to despise Satriani as nothing but note-clutter and
> show-off stuff); in fact, the more I listen the more I like it.  somebody told

                 Note-clutter and show-off stuff? Wrong. You must be thinking
  of Yngwie (my Ego) Malmsteen.

> there is also some mandolin on The Extremist, and some classical (?)...
> How about a review?   what else is on it?  is the rest old Satriani or new?
> anybody know what happened to wake this guy up and bring some real music out o
f
> him (always an interesting question)?

         Again... he's been making REAL music for some time. I'm not going to
start a flame war, but Satriani is one of the best guitarists out there right
now.


     Chris
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