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From: mullignj@acfcluster.nyu.edu
Subject: Leather pants
Organization: New York University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:24:25 GMT


In all my years of riding I've never worn leather pants.  Just the
thought of wearing them made me sweat.   But now with yet another
fall approaching I'm beginning to wonder...would leather pants allow
me to ride later into the cold season?  Are they much warmer than
jeans?

 
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Jim Mulligan mullignj@acfcluster.nyu.edu

1979 R65 ---->  1992 K75S
There are no problems in Nature.
- George Santayana

Perfect Tommy: "But why do I have to give her my jacket?"
Buckaroo Bonzai: "Because you're perfect."
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From: captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: key fobs
Date: 12 Sep 92 03:15:22 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX


Ok, now that we've got the key fobs & lighters out of the way...
Who wants an Official DoD Flyswatter(tm) in a variety of decorator
colors?

-- 
|The opinions expressed above are merely the result of chaotic synapse firings|
|After being brutally pummeled about the head by a big mean          -   O    |
|biker, I can no longer be responsible for my rantings.                |      |
|captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu  (Brian Murfin)  DoD# 0690  nt650gt     \_^___/   |

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From: crsg9887@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chad R. Sandstrom)
Subject: Re: I got some (was Re: riding clothes choices)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:55:44 GMT


jorg k. .then. john h. .then. graeme h.  regale all with same-sex come ons.
			     er is that.. "same-sex come on stories"


shocked did graeme seem as he was approached @ 70mph upon his Triumph...

consider then how women might feel when some trucker or other male vehicle
driver or just some other male comes along trying to 'impress' their manhood
upon the female.  Truckers try to play 'tag' with my wife every week on her
way to work. 

When confronted some respond, >>>>>> "Can't you take a joke?" <<<<<
She has taken to waving a realistic toy gun at the bastards. (No this is'nt CA)

ObMoto: The money's down on my two-tone wineberry Heritage Softail! Yeehaw!
Some weenie in r.m.h thinks his ducatie is faster. like i care!?

__
Chad S.
From: marcl@os-d.isc-br.com (H. Marc Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Radians; BMW helmets
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:40:11 GMT
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:

>Also, one of the MSF instructors had a helmet made by BMW which has a
>fold-up jaw.  It looks much easier than a regular helmet to put on if you
>wear glasses, which I do.  I plan to go to Europe later this year, so I'll
>be able to buy one.  Should I?  Are they as safe as regular helmets?  Are
>they approved for use in the US, California in particular?   

I have one of the original System I BMW helmets, such as you describe.  It
is noisy, and quite poorly made.  The latching system for the front part is
pretty lame -- the latches bend easily, and are diffucult to release unless
perfectly aligned.  The finish is not what you'd expect from a premium
(priced) helmet.  Note that they are no longer sold in this country (the
hinged front-piece helmet sold by Harley dealers isn't made by the same
company which made the BMW System helmets).

It is, however, convienent for people who wear glasses, or for those times
when you need to talk, or drink something, and don't want to have to take
off the helmet.
--
H. Marc Lewis                 |  Phone: (509) 927-5480
ISC-Bunker Ramo Corp.         |  e-mail: marcl@eagle.ISC-BR.COM
E. 22425 Appleway             |  or:  ...!uunet!isc-br!eagle!marcl
Liberty Lake, WA 99220-4008   |  "Nature bats last..."
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From: sysop@elan.glassboro.edu (Ken Denton (Supervisor))
Subject: Re: test
Organization: Glassboro State College, Glassboro, NJ
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:50:34 GMT

In article <192r3kINN64e@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:

>I went in, and there were four typical Harley types, black t-shirts,
>two of the guys were wearing a leather vest.  I figured I'd hang out

	Must be tough to share a vest...

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From: jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: Re: Leather pants
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 10 Sep 92 10:24:48

"mullignj" == mullignj  <mullignj@acfcluster.nyu.edu> writes:

mullignj> In all my years of riding I've never worn leather pants.
mullignj> Just the thought of wearing them made me sweat.  But now
mullignj> with yet another fall approaching I'm beginning to
mullignj> wonder...would leather pants allow me to ride later into the
mullignj> cold season?  Are they much warmer than jeans?

I rode comfortably in 28F weather while wearing long johns, denim
jeans, and dress leather pants.  Insulation + wind blockage.  (This
was on a bike w/o fairing or windshield.)

--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
                              '92 R100R, DoD# 0378
 "Nude wheelies are probably the ultimate in squidliness."  -- someone at
                                                          Lissa's party
From: osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: equal opportunity cheesecake
Date: 9 Sep 1992 21:54:11 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <716072270.227687.TJM@math.ams.org> TJM@MATH.AMS.ORG (Tom Maloney) writes:
>	I wonder if there's a market for magazines featuring bits 
>	of male beef posing (semi-)nude on Harleys.  I'd buy 'em.

I've actually been thinking about the possibilities of publishing
a gay(*) motorcycling magazine.  Do you think a market for that
sort of thing exists?  Heh, I bet this idea is making more than
a few breeders uncomfortable as they read it...

(*) Of course I mean Gay, Les, Bi, etc.

In a similar vein, the latest (?) issue of, I think, "Texas Iron"
has a fairly hunky UTexas swimmer on the cover with his Harley.
I just wish he was wearing as little as the bikini-clad fem
with him.

As I rant on, just what IS the deal with bikini-clad women in high heels?
They seem to infest motorcycle posters, motorcycle magazines, car
magazines, and calendars featuring airplanes to drilling equipment.
Do hets *really* find the heels-bikini combo sexy?  Even when holding
a pipe wrench?

-
-John H. Osborn
-osborn@cs.utexas.edu
-DOD# 2001  '92 BMW Paris-Dakar


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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: test
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:12:55 GMT

egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:

>He just looked funny and jerked his thumb towards the taps.  Naturally,
>being an upright DoD beer poser, I got up and left.

Hey Laszlo, are you gonna let Ed upstage you on your own territory like
this?
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: sievertl@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Lisa Sieverts)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:29:35 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Women riders - what I think...
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

/ hpcc01:rec.motorcycles / achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach) / 12:27 pm  Sep 10, 1992 /
> 
> Sorry, but riding a bike is automatic admission to babehood. No offense
> intended, as to me babe is a complimentary term.Nothing like a scooter between
> the legs to increase a woman's attractiveness. Decreases the necessity for 
> long legs and big hooters. :-)
>                   ^^^^^^^

I'm confused -- if I'm riding a motorcycle, I don't need loud Fiamms?
That runs contrary to everything I've read recently on rec.m. 


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Lisa Sieverts                                        sievertl@corp.hp.com
DoD#511
                          '86 Yamaha Radian 600

no wonder america is in such bad state, americans can post but not read
                                                              -Laxlsk$2o
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From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: physics 101 (was Re: Centripetal !!)
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: 13 Sep 1992 20:15:47 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62003.student.cwru.edu

In article <25786@castle.ed.ac.uk>, cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
wrote:
> It may be amusing that many drivers are so
> unaware of the physics of driving as to believe the contrary, but I
> think you're being a little unkind to suggest that educating the
> idiots should be an amusing process. > :-)
> -- 

Yeah, I'm kind of a shit head that way... :-)

> Chris Malcolm    cam@uk.ac.ed.aifh          +44 (0)31 650 3085
> Department of Artificial Intelligence,    Edinburgh University
> 5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK                DoD #205

| Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834 | DoD #207  AMA #573534|
| Case Western Reserve U. Computer E. and Sci.  | KotNML  /  KotB      |
| "If I was worried about who saw me, I'd never | '81 CB750C           |
| get nekkid at all." -Ed Green, DoD #0111      | '88 Bianchi Limited  |
From: yduj@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Judy Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: vanity plates
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:27:52 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization


Massachusetts doesn't allow vanity plates on motorcycles :-(

       Judy Anderson yclept yduJ     'yduJ' rhymes with 'fudge'
	      yduJ@symbolics.com      DoD #166
    Join the League for Programming Freedom, league@prep.ai.mit.edu
From: randy@ninja.megatek.uucp (Randy Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Mobile 1 oil
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:35:33 GMT
Reply-To: megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California

In article <1992Sep4.100310.1100@msus1.msus.edu> stafford@msus1.msus.edu writes:
|Re: Mobil 1
|There was an excellent discussion of Mobile 1 on a list and the point
|that struck me as most pertinenent was that Mobile 1 breaks down
|slower and you can go further between changes HOWEVER most of us
|change oil often enough to obviate that advantage.  The advantage
|remains, however, for long tours.

  Not really.  The primary problem you are addressing when you change your oil
is to remove the contaminates *in* the oil, such as the by-products of
combustion (acids, water, etc) and particulate matter smaller than what the
filter can remove.  This will be the same, no matter what oil you use.

  To me, the most "pertinenent" (sic) factor advocating the use of Mobil 1
is the fact it is "slicker", i.e. lubricates better, than other oils.

Randy Davis                             UUCP: randy@megatek.com
("A notch above STUPID fast") ZX-11 Pilot     megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Yamaha GTS/FJR 1000 is real
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 17:14:54 GMT

This little tibit from autos/motorcycles on BIX last night:

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autos/motorcycles #1761, from kmckay, 2137 chars, Fri Sep 11 04:06:50
1992
--------------------------
STOP PRESS!! You read it here first...

This week's 'Motor' had _photos_ of the Yamaha GTS ... the artist's
impressions were VERY close! Specs -

        - Hub centre front end, using a single sided swing arm.

        - Fuel injection+ obligatory 'EFI' stickers.

        - (like this!) Pannier mountings integrated into the rear
          bodywork.

        - 'Omega Chassis Concept' - 'cos the frame (such as it is)
          & the two swing arms are shaped like a Greek omega
          character.

        - FZR lump, tuned for monster torque and a 100 bhp top end.

        - 3 way exhaust catalyser.

This report originated from the guys who did the type approvals in
Holland; they rated the ride & handling very highly. The 100 bhp was
what they measured; maybe it'll be more for non-Euro markets.
Also it's reported as a replacement for the FJ; if so it's a case of
'farewell thou good and faithful servant'.

Also photos of the Suzi RX600R; new Honda CBR1000F (with power brakes
begod!), and a 1000F engined retro bike, the 'Big 1'!!
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-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: starfish@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Smarter than the Average Blur)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: EMISSION CONTROL: REMOVING (CBR)
Date: 5 Sep 92 02:20:28 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


I am in the process of removing the emission control system on
my CBR600 F2 so I can instal the Hondaline center stand.

I have removed the canister. Is there anything else I should remove?
Will the bike suffer degraded performance? Should I remove the AVCV and PCV
valves the canister used to go to? If not, should I plug the hose intakes that 
used to come from the canister? 

-Alan Waterman (CBR600F2LN)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: Daytona Banking (was Re: >wheelies)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 02:06:58 GMT

jerry@stratford.dab.ge.com (Jerry Szulinski) writes:

>Anybody who thinks that hills of 30 degrees or more are common I invite to
>either:
>1. going out with a level and a protractor and measuring some hills;

	My front yard was greater than 70 degrees at some points.  Of course,
I didn't ride it much, but I digress.

>2. coming over to Daytona and standing next to the 31 degree banking
>   on the NASCAR course....I personally haven't seen too many hills steeper
>   than that; 45 degrees - I doubt it;...75 degrees - let's get real.

	I ran up 70 degree hills, although only about 30 feet of run, each
day back home while checking cattle in the pasture.  Hint: set your rebound
dampening on the forks to the highest setting.

>Drawing 30 degrees on paper looks a lot milder than it does when you have 
>to drive/ride/walk up it. Try it. All you have to do is measure it and
>all this discussion can be put to rest....

	I wonder what hillclimbers regularly travel up?  Most of the
unlimited bikes are street motors built to within an inch of their lives.
Still, even short runs at 60 or 70 degrees would have a very measurable
effect on engine life if it resulted in no oil pressure as such runs are
often done as rather high RPM's.

<Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 |"I see angels on Ariels in leather and>
<z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu | chrome, Swooping down from heaven to >
<viking@iastate.edu      | carry me home."   ---    R. Thompson >
<ISU thinks I need more education, which they provide for a fee.>
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Fabulous Harley Babe Bashing etc.
Date: 9 Sep 1992 15:47:52 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 9SEP199208144826@erich.triumf.ca, ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid) writes:
>In article <18l09uINN49i@sixgun.East.Sun.COM>, egreen@east.sun.com writes...
>>In article 23163@sybase.sybase.com, leighann@sybase.com 
>>	(Leigh Ann Hussey) writes:
>>>
>>>I'd rather have Nothing than a Bud any day of the week...
>> 
>>You're weird.
>> 
>	I wouldn't say so. 

I would.  American beer is nothing to get excited over, but it is
better beer than no beer.  Anybody that drinks beer, that would rather
not drink beer than drink Budwieser, is weird.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: thorick@sybase.com (Thorick Chow)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: stupid people
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:13:54 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <BuAFtu.JM6@wpi.WPI.EDU> rtaraz@wpi.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz) writes:
>
>As I was cruising downtown last friday night, I came accros a couple of
>stupid people who pissed me off.
>
>I was just riding when this Mustang 5.0 came behind me and started 
>reving his engine, so I took it he wanted to race me, so I smoked him!
>I have a Ex500 and I know it is not a big/very fast bike, but come on.  I
>can beat a car anytime.
>
>Then this stupid/fat/ugly/bitch in a Transam pulled up at a light and said:
>why dont you get a real bike!!. I just laughed at the bitch.  Anyway, as soon
>as the light turned green, the guy driving floored.  Like I was gonna waste
>my gas to beat his shity car.
>
>anyway, my point is that it seems like all these people with sports cars feel
>like they have to beat a motorcyle (which they cant) to make their day.
>I guess they are jealous that my 1800$ bike can beat their 15000$ car.



well...  good for you hero..  here's some friendly advice tho'
don't even think of trying it when the road turns curvy, you 
might find out that the car may leave you in the dust  :-)

-t.c.

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--
"We must be careful not to discourage our 12-year-olds by making them   
 waste the best years of their lives on preparing for examinations.  If
 we do not stifle their interest in science, one of them has a chance to
 be the new Heisenberg..."              - Freeman Dyson
From: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Party Competition (was Re: The man without a number
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:26:33 GMT
Expires: 30 Sep 92 05:00:00 GMT
Organization: Computervision Corp., Bedford, Ma.

In article <dbc-090992223842@b62003.student.cwru.edu> dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson) writes:
>This brings up a good question.  Why am I in Ohio?

Uh, 'cause its got Akron, Lake Erie Jr. Col. and Arnie? (not necessarily
in that order...)


Rich Bemben - DoD #0044                     rbemben@timewarp.prime.com
Back in the saddle - BONNE'S ALIVE          (617) 275-1800 x 4173
The street giveth and the street taketh away - Catmother
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From: brianm@sco.com (Brian Moffet)
Subject: Re: Radians; BMW helmets
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:39:25 GMT

jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
>Almost everyone I've talked to has said something liek "Buy something small
>and not too powerful to start out with.  It should be cheap so you won't
>mind too much when it falls over, which it will.  Then trade it in for a
>bigger bike in six months or a year, and you'll be able to get back most of
>what you paid for it."  Sounds like reasonable advice to me, provided I can
>find a bike that fits those criteria.

Hmm, I've always disagreed with this advice as a generalization.   For some
people, it's a good idea.  For others, you waste your money and time.
If you can realize that the bikes limits are much higher than yours, 
and are willing to take the time to find out your limits, go ahead and
buy that crotch rocket if you want.  Just don't wack open the throttle
until you are damn well ready to.  This is usually after you think you are
ready to.

>Any comments from current or former Radian owners?  Are there any years I
>should avoid?  What should they cost?  

The radian is a nice bike.  My wife has one, and it fits her just nicely,
(she's 5 foot 4 inches.)  It's too short for me, for anything over
10 miles, (I am 6 foot 1).

We took her bike and my 550 Vision up to Crater Lake in Oregon, from 
Santa Cruz, California not too long ago.  She had an easier time of it than
I did.   1600 miles in 7 days.   It did fairly well, except for eating
oil a bit.   No other problems, and the oil really wasn't a problem.

The 600 cc engine is based on an old design, and is pretty much bullet proof.
Gets fairly good gas mileage on the freeway (we measured 60 mpg),
and has good power.   It's handling is fairly good.   You can purchase
a small sport like fairing from Yamaha, or they also have a larger windscreen
available for it, which is on my wifes bike.  I find the windscreen annoying,
as it pushes the wind up to my helmet and buffets my head around.

Yamaha no longer makes them, I think the Seca II replaced them in the
product line up, but the Radian was basically unchanged through its 
6 year span.   The one I know about is an 87.   I personally don't like
the newer paint schemes, I prefer the older "cocktail blue", rather than
the hideous blue and grey.

My general opinion on this bike is, if you like the way it looks, and
it will suit your riding style (not sport or real touring, middle of the road)
this is a great bike.

brian moffet
--
"Face it, Chuck.  Taken as an aggregate, the human race is a stupid, sorry lot."
                           -- Jonathan Quist

brianm@sco.com  or uunet!sco!brianm                    Speaking for Myself
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rowell@socrates.umd.edu (William Rowell)
Subject: moped vs moto
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:09:16 GMT

Help me out here. A friend of mine has been debating with his girlfriend
the merits of a motorcycle over those of a moped for his new mode of
transportation. He is moving to LA and will be commuting to UCLA from
the somewhere between there and San Diego. The basic argument so far is:

Girlfriend: Mopeds are cheaper and some go 60 MPH
Friend: Mopeds are dangerous on the highway.
Girlfriend: You can take back-roads
...

The more opinions/facts I can support him with, the more likely he will be
able to defeat her in this debate and by him a new mount! 

Oh, and by the way. Neither of them has ridden a motorcycle before.

-billy

-- 
'93 CBR600F2P  Home = 301-871-7704 "...you see, there's fast, really fast,
'91 MR2 Turbo  Work = 301-443-4930  and STUPID fast. This one is a notch above
(9? ZX-11) <-Next bike?             STUPID fast" -salesdude on the ZX-11.
                                   "Hmmmmmmm!" -me
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