From: "H.H. Nguyen" <619070@acadvm1.uottawa.ca>
Subject:      [MISC] vn-flames ???
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 01:05:13 GMT



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From: atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall Atkinson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: ****** SCV with MODERATOR ************
Message-Id: <3403@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
Date: 20 Aug 92 11:12:06 GMT
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, DC
Apparently-To: scv-relay@media.mit.edu

There are lots of country/region-specific groups in talk.politics.*
Go grep your .newsrc file for "politics" and I think you'll begin to
see what I mean.

  I'd suggest that someone post a formal REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION to
news.announce.newgroups and soc.culture.vietnamese (cross-posted)
describing the proposed NAME, CHARTER, and TOPICS of the proposed new
group talk.politics.vietnamese.  The name should not be talk.
politics.viet-nam because then someone will say that "refugee
politics" and "Viet Kieu politics" don't belong there.

  Under USENET rules, there must be 2-3 weeks of discussion before any
vote can occur, so I'd suggest that the RFD get posted soon.  Having a
formal RFD might also help focus discussion here in SCV.

Any takers ??

Ran
atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil
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    Greetings,

    To complement the above suggestion, I propose another idea:
We can ask the kind and competent Tin Le to open another private
mailing list by the name of "vn-flames". Tin Le has been operating
successfully several mailing lists already, and another one should
not be too much a burden, I hope.

    The rationale for vn-flames is simple: Being humans, we sometimes
have a desire to "flame", vent our frustration, anger. (Some people are
always angry, upset, frustrated, but this is another problem.) Recognizing
this, whenever discussions get heated, let them be political,
religious, etc. we'll ask the participants to move over to vn-flames
to exercize their "rights of flaming", and their "freedom of speech"
to each other, and leave peace and decency on the SCV and/or the
talk.politics.vietnamese for the rest. Or those who feel the
urge(s) to flame can invite themselves to vn-flames.

    vn-flames should allow all levels of the human languages to the
utmost satisfaction of the participants ! Whatever a human being can
utter or write, he/she/it can do that on this forum ! If this is made
clear to its subscribers, nobody will complain. Another feature of
this mailing list over personal emails is automatic distribution
to the right audience: you send your flames to one address
and the flames will be sent to, and entertained/appreciated by
the interested parties, i.e. the right audience.

    In summary, there can be up to three mechanisms for the
discussion of controversial issues:

(1) personal emails for a small audience.
(2) talk.politics.vietnamese for political, religious etc. stuffs.
(3) vn-flames for "flaming".

    I don't mind whatever talk.politics.vietnamese, vn-flames are
going to be named. No, thank you, I don't feel any urge to
flame now :-))

    What do you think ? Mr. Tin Le, if you are reading this, have you
got any comments ?

    Regards,
    H.H. Nguyen