HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: alexpace@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex L. Pace)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,ut.general
Subject: Austin Rave Update -- This Friday and Saturday
Date: 19 Nov 92 04:04:08 GMT
Followup-To: alt.rave
Distribution: tx
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin


From the Fliers:

______________________________________________________________________________
FRIDAY NOVEMBER 20TH
 Code Red Productions Presents:

			FUSION  RAVE
		       
		      Fresh  &  Fierce
		  The Standard of Ecstacy

	One the Decks:  Joseph Friar -- Victoria
			Mike Lawder  -- Austin
			N.R. Jenz    -- Corpus
	       		Plus Special Guests

	           Lasers  &  Visuals
	      	 Smart Bar .  Think Drinks

LOCATION AND TICKET INFO: (512) 576-2036   [ It's in Victoria :-( ]
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SATURDAY NOVEMBER 21st

			ZEUS - The Cyber Rave
		* Drum Circle      	* Ambient Room
		* Interactive Video	* Liquid Mice
		* Smart Bar		* Intense Computer Visuals
		* Eyecon Video		* Tons of Tooney People
LOCATION AND DIRECTIONS: 447-0160   [ This one is in Austin ]
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Alex Pace
alexpace@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: amessing@willamette.edu (Adam Messinger)
Subject: Tech 17
Organization: Willamette University, Salem OR
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:00:34 GMT

Would the people who posted the TECH 17 article please repost...I seem
to have lost it in a rather nasty disk failure we had here...thanks much

adam
From: pete@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Peter Alexander Merel)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Raves in Washington DC!
Summary: Need info.
Date: 15 Nov 92 09:06:23 GMT
Organization: AOTC - CSSC

There is a beautiful woman, a dear friend of mine who lives in DC. She'd
like to go to a good rave - she hasn't ever been, and needs one badly. 

Does anyone know whether rave culture has penetrated the world capitol
yet, or anywhere nearby? Even a decent techno-playing club would be okay.

Help me out - this woman is really something, and I won't be there to
keep your grubby mits off her ;-)

Replies by email okay, but posting would probably be of more service to
Messrs. Clinton & Gore, and their newer, gentler, more caring NSA.

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I am a big pond in a small fish.
From: sho@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Sho Kuwamoto)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: House of Euphoria, Cincinnati
Date: 21 Nov 92 22:18:51 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Physics Department

Went to House of Euphoria in Cincinnati last night...

Bleah!

Met a lot of nice people, some of the DJs later on in the
evening were great (esp Richie Rich from Detroit), but the
event was so legal as to be downright scary.

We walk in the door...  Two cops.  Walk up the stairs...
Another cop.  Walk around the room... a cop by every door.
Two cops manning the bathrooms.

Needless to say, this put a damper on the evening.

Does it ever get this bad in other parts of the country, or
am I just doomed for living in the midwest?  *sigh*  

-Sho
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From: u8912548@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Airplay in SYDNEY, Australia
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:06:47 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Anyone with DEMO tapes/pressings that would like airplay
please contact me....
I do a Radio programme here in Sydney Australia and also
play at some Raves/Clubs/etc.
 
e-mail: u8912548@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
        or au535@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
 
or by snail mail:
 
Michael Dagn,
26 Young St.,
Randwick, 2031.
NSW, Australia
 
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e-mail: u8912548@csdvax.csd.unsw.oz.AU  or  au535@cleveland.freenet.edu
DJ MD (Michael Dagn) of....
M     D     A
Music Dance Aesthetic   Saturday Nights   10pm-2am   2RSR   88.9MHz
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: amessing@willamette.edu (Adam Messinger)
Subject: Re: drugs
Organization: Willamette University, Salem OR
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:56:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.114839.2723@coe.montana.edu> trailmix@cs.montana.edu (Foster) writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.180407.5784@bradley.bradley.edu> pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) writes:
>
>>I think that XTC, being an amphetamine derivative, is a lot more likely to
>
>That Ecstacy is an amphetamine derivative is simply untrue.  The jury's 

Dude, I fear that you are mistaken...

Here is some stuff off of alt.drugs...this info file was typed up by 
Lamont Granquist


MDA and MDMA:  3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine and
3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine respectively... 

MDA:

     O     /\\     / \     NH2 
   /   \ /    \\ /     \ /  
  /     ||      |       | 
H2C     ||      |       | 
  \     ||      |       CH2 
   \   / \    //      
     O     \//  

MDMA:
       
     O     /\\     / \     NHCH3 
   /   \ /    \\ /     \ /  
  /     ||      |       | 
H2C     ||      |       | 
  \     ||      |       CH2 
   \   / \    //      
     O     \// 

Also we might as well throw in amphetamine if you all haven't figured out
what that should look like yet (replace the NH2 with NHCH3 to get
methamphetamine -- identical substitution as between MDA and MDMA).

amphetamine:

    /\\     / \     NH2 
  /    \\ /     \ /  
 ||      |       | 
 ||      |       | 
 ||      |       CH2 
  \    //      
    \//  
 

take it easy

adam
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: jondr@sco.COM (Karen Silkwood's car)
Subject: Re: REVIEWS: Various (Aquastep)/Visions of Shiva/The Junglist
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:10:03 GMT


sho@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Sho Kuwamoto) writes:
>Tunes From the Chocolate Box
>This may as well be called an Aquastep album.  All of the bands
>featured contain various combinations of the members of Aquastep.

well you might as well call it a jambo album or a serendipity album.  all
those "bands" on wonka are just various permutations of 5 or 6 guys...

-- 
Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ)                 uunet!sco!jondr   jondr@sco.com
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: Todd J Sines <tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: going to EUPHORIA? call/find me!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 04:40:43 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

hey, if you are going to EUPHORIA in cinci tomorrow night, look for me....

todd sines: wearing a big tan/brown wool hat, BRIGHT yellow windbreaker, react 
candy coatings black t-shirt, tan pants, black k-swiss.

i have circular glasses and short hair. i will be passing out ravin bran flyers
and such.

and mike brown: short curly dreadlocks, beige fresh jive (FJ incorporated) 
t-shirt, portable camera around neck, maybe a video camera. blue jeans, maybe.

we shouldn't be that hard to find. whoever is going back up north is welcome to 
stop at my house (in columbus) i am right off of I-71. take the 17th st exit 
and go West, under railroad tracks, and i live on the right side of the street. 
address is 384. you will have passed the fairgrounds and i am before 4th 
street.

please feel free to call me, it is listed below and i would like to meet as 
many people as possible.

if i am not there, leave a message and i will call you back . leave your number
-too.


sines

----------------------------------------------enhanced--body release-----------
----------------------------------------------todd sines--614.299.9529---------
---+------------------------------------------tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu-
----------------------------------------------384 e17th ave columbus oh 43201--
From: mmstahl@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (michael m. stahl)
Subject: Re: Rave is dead.
Keywords: rave, house music, dance music, clubs.
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 18:50:57 GMT


I feel the same way as this fellow.  The concept of
raves has been disgustingly manipulated from it's
original form.  Raves have turned into money-making
ventures, instead of their intended private party 
status.

michael m. stahl esq.

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: disc@quads.uchicago.edu (Little Fluffy Cloud)
Subject: Re: House of Euphoria, Cincinnati
Reply-To: disc@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Something fatal.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 06:24:56 GMT

Here's my two cents:

If ya gotta play by the rules, play by the rules.  Get the cops.  Get the 
music hall location.  Play it safe.

I have not found a single situation where one needs entirely to play by the
rules.  People are still throwing good parties in LA illegally.  People are 
throwing parties in Milwaukee again in warehouses, not music halls.  If you
know how to plan a rave right, you don't need to sell out 100%.  It loosens
people up, and a crazy warehouse is oh so much better than a music hall.

If the party was dope, the party was dope.  I wasn't there.  I shouldn't
complain.  I have had fun at legal parties and illegal parties.  It's just
that if a party goes off and it's legal, and a party gets busted and it's
illegal, one cannot draw the conclusion that all illegal parties will be
busted and one must run a party legally in order to be fun.  Grave Rave was
busted for many reasons.  An irresponsible promoter was one of those reasons.
A greedy police department was another.  The entire event was a public
embarrassment for the city of Milwaukee, and I think this will set precedence
fo law enforcement officials in dealing with raves around the country.  GAn
incedence such as this will assuredly never happen again, with the national 
press it has received and the overwhelming negative criticism.

=Jerry Dischler=|Little Fluffy Cloud|=disc@quads.uchicago.edu=

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Suns of Arqa
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 06:18:31 GMT

There are two tracks on Give Peace a Dance vol. 2 by a band
called "Suns of Arqa".  I liked most everything on that compilation,
so when I saw a Suns of Arqa disc at Wax Trax this weekend I couldn't
resist.

I'm glad.

This is nice, mellow but not quite ambient sometimes-house with a
lot of what I sounds like sitar, and various other eastern sounding
instruments (the list of band members cite "sarangi", "tabla",
drums, and bass guitar).  The song titles and some samples have a
christian tone, but it's all instrumental, no indication of any "message"
here.  The album is _Alap-Joe-Jhala_, and appears to be mostly
various mixes of about four songs:

1.  He Did Not Die (Gadgi Mix)		 4:13
2.  Bye- Ragi Version (Phil Kirby Mix)	 4:32
3.  What Does it Profit?   "  		 4:45
4.  He Did Not Die (Roger Vanilla Mix)	 7:20
5.  Gavati Alap				 1:06
6.  Gavati  vilambit			11:07
7.  Gavati  madhya			 2:35
8.  Outro				  :48
9.  Gavati  drut			 5:49
10. Bye- Ragi Alap			 1:40
11. Bye- Ragi  vilambit			11:07
12. Bye- Ragi  madhya			 3:56
13. Bye- Ragi  drut			 6:16

(I say appears because I'm only about half way through the album)

The number is Arka 2102CD.  I recommend it to anyone who enjoyed
the tracks on _Give Peace A Dance vol. 2_.


Now, for my information, can anyone make sense of the notations
(vilambit/madhya/drut) that are associated both with "Bye" and
"Gavati" in various incarnations?  Does anyone have more info on
this group?  According to the discography included with the CD
(very nice) This was their 11th release, the 4th on CD with several
of the earlier releases deleted in their original forms, but with tracks 
and other bits re-released on later CDs.  There have been two releases
that were supposed to come after this one, including the one with the
track that has its various forms on Give Peace a Dance.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
 I fear we have not gotten rid of "God" because we still have faith in grammar
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: melzie@wam.umd.edu (Mel-zo-rama)
Subject: Re: Milw. Grave update (941 accomplices)
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 14:19:53 GMT

In article <1e6hshINNdcu@uwm.edu> aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Steven J.) writes:
>roy@harlqn.co.uk (Roy Badami) writes:
>: 
>
>Yes, in many large US cities there is a curfew on young people, usually
>younger than 18 years I believe.  It stems from high-crime areas and having
>young people out at night.  I don't if this actually makes any difference,
>but in situations like a rave it gives the cops power to charge young people
>with something.
>
I'm confused though......from the age of 16-18 in Maryland there are
provisional licenses that give a cerfuw of driving until Midnight.

So.......if Maryland has the cerfuw of 11:30 then why would the DMV
feel the need to issue a midnight cerfuw..


					Mel




Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (non-carbonated)
Subject: Eno
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 18:24:43 GMT


Just wondering:  How does Brian Eno's latest album compare to the
likes of Tangerine Dream/CHill Out/Orb/etc.

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From: squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Quigg)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: TV Commercial Techno
Date: 16 Nov 92 10:34:43 GMT
Organization: BT Glasgow Systems and Software Engineering Centre, Scotland.

In article <1992Nov13.134617.10289@ccsun.strath.ac.uk>, gcf@spd.eee.strathclyde.ac.uk (Graham Freeland) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov13.114842.2376@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> conrad@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Conrad Yoder) writes:
|> >
|> >There have some recent TV commercials with (IMHO - love those acronyms) some
|> >hoppin' tunes.  One is the most recent L'oreal Studio line of hair products -
|> >a sorta garage-techno-acid-house thang.  Another is a recent Bubblicious
|> >bubble gum ad with claymation dancers in it, sporting a tribal-techno-type
|> >tune.  Are these actual music or just diddies thought up be the ad agency?
|> >Any info would be appreciated.

|> >And, for all those of you who are just dying to hit the 'followup' button 
|> >because you feel the obsessive-compulsive need to analyze the exact definition
|> >of tribal/garage/techno/acid/monkeybump/house, just CALM DOWN and go have a
|> >beer :
	  thanks , mine's a becks ! 
-- 
	If you live in Scotland , and possibly England , you will have seen the
spectacular McEwans Lager add (a globe spinnning round , then a surreal bit)
that featured Leftfield's classic DJUM DJUM record , which was probably the
first modern club application of this sound , African chanting , BIG bassline
,etc ....
Don't know about any of the other ones though ...
Mind you , the music on the new ford Escort add is quite hypnotic!

It's OK , I admit I was wrong on the Jungle/Tribal argument!

cheerio
Stephen Quigg
squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk 
British Telecom , GSSEC , Glasgow
(Nothing in any of my mail represents my Employer in any way)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mcelwee@wampyr.cc.uow.edu.au (Bennett)
Subject: Re: Beligian New-Beat / Techno
Organization: Disorganization
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 02:00:46 GMT

jdisegi@bu.edu (Jonathan Disegi) writes:

>Sure, I like the Orb, but Pink Floyd did it better round 22 years ago.  

Pink Floyd did it in a similar style with '70s instrumentation 22 years ago.

>I personally feel that Belgian New-Beat is the best type of Rave music.
>I think Digital Orgasm, Praga Khan and MNO are top!

Belgian newbeat died years ago!  Get your labels right!  The groups you
mention ain't newbeat.  Maybe they're an example of "Belgian even-newerbeat".
Anyway, there's apparently only one drum machine in all Belgium, since all
the groups you mention and dozens of others are comprised of the same three
or four people.  I guess they take turns on who has the drum machine or
something.

>Anyone Else agree or disagree, and when are these bands coming out with full
>Lengths?

I disagree, but there you are.  Digital Orgasm do have an album out,
featuring all their hits.  I can't remember what it's called (something like
"Appearances Are Deceptive"?), but it's released in Australia (amazing!),
so...um...so there.

>ps. Altern-8 and Prodigy are brilliant as well!

Altern-8 have never excited me.  Nexus 21 was better.  The Prodigy's singles
have all been pretty good tho'.

-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown)
Subject: Re: House of Euphoria, Cincinnati
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 00:42:10 GMT

In article <8804@dirac.physics.purdue.edu> sho@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Sho Kuw
amoto) writes:
>Went to House of Euphoria in Cincinnati last night...
>
>Bleah!

Ack! How can you say that?

>Met a lot of nice people, some of the DJs later on in the
>evening were great (esp Richie Rich from Detroit), but the
>event was so legal as to be downright scary.

Personally, I would rather have it all legal than get arrested and
fined like the poor kids at Grave last month.  I don't see what the
big thrill is in taking one's chances... I mean, if I'm going to
drive 2 hours to arrive just as the party is shut down for illegal
assembly of (how many people were there? about 2,000 is my guesstimate)
with no permits or someone smoking a joint or whatever, I'd rather
not go.  Who cares if it wasn't your idea of an 'authentic' rave?
I'd say it was the best rave Ohio has ever seen, the lights and
atmosphere (people-wise) were fantastic, the dj's were great, the
Moby show was incredible despite his tantrum and the fact that he
wasn't really playing live, and everyone seemed to be having a super time.
So what if it was in the downtown music hall with cops at the doors?

>We walk in the door...  Two cops.  Walk up the stairs...
>Another cop.  Walk around the room... a cop by every door.
>Two cops manning the bathrooms.
>Needless to say, this put a damper on the evening.

What were you planning on doing, shooting up heroin and running around
naked?  Didn't you see how many people were tripping, jogging around,
hugging each other?  Did the cops do anything to spoil any of that?
All they did was move people off the stage, and that was only after
they were asked to by the rave's own security.  I smelled pot at one
point.  The cops just stood around, and one was even bobbing his head
to the music.  They seemed to be enjoying the lights and laser, and
probably felt relieved that for once in their careers they got to patrol
a huge party without having to bust it up for alcohol-related fights,
sexual assaults, etc.

>Does it ever get this bad in other parts of the country, or
>am I just doomed for living in the midwest?  *sigh*

Jeez, what's the big deal?  It was great; lighten up.

Mike
-- 
Mike Brown
mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
"The Universe is a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter."
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: scollins@cs.tcd.ie (Steven Collins)
Subject: Re: Eno
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin (Computer Science)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:35:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.182443.13899@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (non-carbonated) writes:
>
>Just wondering:  How does Brian Eno's latest album compare to the
>likes of Tangerine Dream/CHill Out/Orb/etc.
>

Eh, ...., what?  That's 3 separate questions.  TaDream, Orb and Chill
don't sound anything remotely similiar.  Anyway, Nerve Net, Eno's latest
doesn't really compare to any of the above.  Its a little more
unconventional.  The most accessible track is probably Fractal Zoom
although my favourite is probably Wire Shock.  There are some pretty
dissonant solos in there, (not from Fripp for once, although he does
feature).  Its a very good album, with good production and excels in the
rhythm dept. more that any other.  Nothing like the Orb, nothing like
Tangerine Dream (earlier or crap stuff) and nothing like Chill.  

Steve


Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Vesta MIDI->CV
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 17:15:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.212653.1@acad.drake.edu>, seh003@acad.drake.edu writes:
|> In article <labmsp.722027040@unix.cc.emory.edu>, labmsp@emory.edu (Matthew Pease) writes:
|> > Hello,
|> > 
|> > I am looking for a CV/gate <--> midi convertor so I can use my roland
|> > with midi.  Could someone please sell me one or point me in the right
|> > direction?
|> 
|> Rogue Music in New York sells a Vesta Kaza CV/Midi converter new for $199.
|> Their phone number is (212) 629-3708.

What is the Vesta converter like ? What are the specs ? Is it easy
to use ? My MPU101 supports 4 synths and I have 5 ...
Organization: Freshman, Architecture, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:45:06 -0500 
From: Edward Pak <ep2j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: NYC

Is anything happening in NYC (Brooklyn) the Friday/Saturday after Thanksgiving?

EDDIE
From: mcsbc3ktp@dct.ac.uk (Kirk Potter)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Normski in the house
Date: 17 Nov 92 14:01:29 GMT
Organization: should be a Uni!! Stuff the tories!!!

Did anyone watch Dance Energy House Party on Monday night???

If so, can someone please tell me what the hell Kylie Minogue was doing on
it???? And her cover version of that crap song is totally crap!!!!

KIRK

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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: I want BASS implosion
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:43:54 GMT

Against my better judgement, I bought LFO's
LOVE IS THE MESSAGE Beware of Bass Remix
as reccomended here. What I got was a decent remix, but
not the bass monster I expected.
 
Now if you wanna hear *BASS* to bust your sub-woofers, well *heh*
I got something thing here that will do the trick.....
 
 
 
 
 
Ah, but that would be telling! ;-) ;-) ;-)
 
--Eric
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: utah saints
From: Kenny Eng <ke0w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 23:13:04 -0500 
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

has anyone heard the new utah saints album. it was supposed to be out
already, but at a record store here, in pittsburgh, they said that it
was delayed. does anyone know when it is coming out?  i  bought their
new cd single, and it is unlike anything on the something good ep. it
has a bit of hip-hoppish rapping on it, like meat beat manifesto and a
harsher beat to it, unlike the smooth beats on the something good ep.. 
coincidentally, i also bought the new meat beat manifesto, satyricon and
orbital is on the list of mbm's credits. 
  kenny