HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kmorriso@zeus.calpoly.edu (Kent E Morrison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: FrameMaker and Math
Keywords: equations, keyboard equivalents
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:29:45 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

I am trying out a NeXT with Framemaker installed, but no
documentation. I would like to get a feel for using it to
set up mathematical expressions, but I am having trouble:
  
  1. I can't get a subscript or superscript.(Also, in the training
  documents the subscripts and superscripts do not appear in the
  correct location. Instead they look as if they are a full line
  above or below.)
  
  2.  The keyboard equivalents do not seem to work. That is to
  get an alpha I try \alpha or ~a, as they are listed in the symbol
  menu or palette, but no alpha results.
  
  3.  Although I have seen very nice documents produced with FM (viz.
  the NeXT advertising brochures), I have not seen mathematical papers
  done with it. I would like to hear from someone happily using 
  FM for mathematics. (By the way I happily use MathType with WriteNow
  on the Macintosh, a wonderful combination, and I use TeX without 
  difficulty.) 

______________________________________________________________________________
Kent Morrison                           kmorriso@nike.calpoly.edu
Math Dept                               office: (805) 756-2464
Cal Poly                                dept:   (805) 756-2206
San Luis Obispo, CA 93407               fax:    (805) 756-1670
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From: minch@lotka.stanford.edu (Eric Minch)
Subject: Re: Save mail from the Mail Application?
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 23:59:07 GMT

Tim Olson writes
> In article <1992Apr7.185852.21226@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>  
rhc52134@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu  
> (Richard) writes:
> | I have tried to save mails to files after reading them from the  
Mail        
> | Application, but I can't find a save function there? Is there  
anyone know
> | how to save a mail to a file (of course not the mbox file) from  
within
> | the mail application? 
> 
> This, in my opinion, is the major missing item in the Mail App.  It  
needs
> a document well, like NewsGrazer, that allows you to drag-and-drop
> the message being viewed.
> 
> Right now, the easiest way to do this is to Select-All on the  
message,
> copy it to the pasteboard, and paste it in to a new Edit document  
> 
> --
> 	Tim Olson
> 	Advanced Micro Devices
> 	tim@amd.com

--
Any mail I want saved I just leave in my mailbox, but if you *did* want  
to save it to a file, and *didn't* want to cut-and-paste, you could  
print (^p) and hit the Save button on the Print Dialog panel to get a  
Save Panel.

Eric Minch             Any resemblance to the opinions of persons
Epistemic Artisan      or organizations other than myself--living,
Stanford Genetics      dead, or imaginary--is purely fortuitous.
From: jgshir@athena.mit.edu (John G Shirlaw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Macs running NeXT Step?
Date: 17 Apr 92 05:27:45 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Question:

Given that after the PC the Mac must have one of the largest shares of the market.
is NeXTs move likely to be to create a version of NeXT Step that runs on the Mac?

Any one want to comment on how easy/dificult this would be to impliment?

john.

Ps. personnaly I would love to see NeXT Step on one of the power books!  though
I'm not sure I would want to do anything on them given that they are only 030's
at the best.

As Steve jobs said the thing NeXT customers want are: A Fast chip, Lots of
memory, A big screen and large amounts of disk space.  All of which consume large
amounts of Watts and are therefore contry to the key principle in implimenting 
a portable which is to use low power devices.
From: dave@prim.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Room with a View
Date: 13 Apr 92 04:53:46 GMT
Organization: Primitive Software Ltd.

Having recently installed News on my NeXT, I found myself frequently logging out as
"dave" and logging back in again as "root" to do system administration. Now to switch
back and forth like this is time consuming. And you have to re-create your window
environment each time. (I know about su, but the goal is to use the GUI as much
as possible).

So wouldn't it be nice if you could just switch between two different login environments
just by clicking on an icon? Each of these could be thought of as being rooms in
your cyberhouse, and the screen is the view in the current room. Say I log on
initially as "dave". When I want to do some sys admin, I click on an icon that represents
the door into other logins. First time it prompts me for the root password and then the screen
switches to the root login. Clicking on another icon takes me back to "dave". The advantage
is that each switch would then be immediate and would preserve all the windows you've
set up. It would also encourage you to use different login id's for different tasks,
like having your study separate from your sitting room.

It should be pretty easy to implement.

Maybe we could have it in 4.0?

Dave Griffiths
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From: smb3u@squeeg.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker)
Subject: Re: does mouseX now have rootless windows?
Keywords: rootless, mouseX, X-Windows
Organization: University of Virginia, Department of Psychology
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:30:06 GMT

In article <4165@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu> doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.160142.14391@pencom.com> alex@pencom.com writes:
                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Hello there:
>>
>>Can anyone tell me where I can find the latest copy of mouseX, the one which  
>>offers rootless windows?
>
>Sorry, you have it mixed up.  The "mouseX" server is not the one with rootless
>windows.  You need to contact Pencom, the developers of co-Xist, the
                               ^^^^^^
>commercial NeXT X server.  It is their newest release that has the new
>feature.
>

He won't have to go to far.

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From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Subject: Re: Lotus May Be Backing Away From NeXT
Reply-To: andrew@cubetech.com
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 03:04:14 GMT

In article <1992Apr3.190726.23091@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu  
(Nathan F. Janette) writes:

>  Perhaps Lotus should seriously rethink the policy concerning
>  such announcements.  Why should the potential purchaser believe
>  that Lotus's lack of announcements about future NeXT development
>  is what you claim?

It is a double-edged sword.  If Lotus keeps quiet, it may loose potential  
customers.  If Lotus posts tons of pre-release announcements, they are labeled  
as a Vaporware company.  It is better in the long term for Lotus to keep quiet  
and loose a few customers than to be permanently branded by all as a vaporware  
developer.

Personally I would rather not hear about it publicly than hear "Oh yeah, it'll  
ship in about a week" for four or five months (see archives of  
comp.dcom.modems).


andrew
-- 
andrew@cubetech.com
Andrew Loewenstern            |  "listen: there's a hell of a good universe
Cube Technologies, Inc.       |   next door; let's go." --- e.e. cummings
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From: barrus@elm.tree.egr.UH.EDU (Karl L. Barrus)
Subject: Mathematica & Tiffs
Organization: University of Houston, College of Engineering
Distribution: comp.sys.next.misc
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 02:57:09 GMT


Well, I have a weenie way of importing tiffs into Mathematica:

1) I have a program that extracts pixel intensities from a tiff and
   writes out the values, one to a line
   Come to think of it, this is probably the key to the whole thing...

2) data = ReadList["file", Number]
3) array = Partition[data, 256, 256]
   My tiffs are all 256 x 256...

4) ListDensityPlot[array, Mesh->False, Axes->None, PlotLabel->"whatever"]
   NOTE: without the Mesh->False (or you can select/unselect ShowLines from the
   Graph  menu) your plot will be all black!!  At least that is what
   happens to me...

From here, I histogram equalize, edge detect, etc.  This procedure
works pretty well for me.

I would be interested in hearing about others ways!!!

/-----------------------------------\
| Karl L. Barrus                    |
| barrus@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXTMail) |
| elee7h5@jetson.uh.edu             |
\-----------------------------------/

I know, the spacing is probably messed up...
--
/-----------------------------------\
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| barrus@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXTMail) |
| elee7h5@jetson.uh.edu             |
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From: gumby@Cygnus.COM (David V. Wallace)
Subject: Is the NeXTStation Turbo vertically disadvantaged?
Organization: Cygnus Support, Palo Alto, California
Date: 10 Apr 92 06:39:43

   Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 03:53:00 GMT
   From: silbar@mpx2.lampf.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)

   QUESTION: is there any good reason why we _shouldn't_ leave Rachel's
   slab standing in its upright position? 

How about:
 o - Dust in the floppy drive?
 o - It might tip over?
 o - You'll deprive NeXT of the revenue from selling you a longer cable?
From: royce@splunge.uucp (Royce Howland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Ac_Chen cheat
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:03:20 GMT
Organization: Ashley, Howland & Wood

tolast.Princeton.EDU!jeffblum (Jeffrey R. Blum) writes:


>This only happened once, so I don't know if it is
>repeatable, but I was at the end of my time, and EXACTLY
>when time hit 0 I completed a connection. (With many other
>pieces on the board.) It passed me on to the next level
>exactly as if I had cleared the board.

><grin>

>				-Jeff
>-- 
>/*******************************************************************/
>"Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so."
>--Ford Prefect in "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"
>/*******************************************************************/

I can corroborate this; it happened to me recently, too.

I used to play Xmahjongg a lot at work, and have got the port of it done
for the NeXT, also.  But Ac_Chen makes the venerable Xmahjongg pale in
comparison.  Somebody else here described Ac_Chen as brutal and sadistic,
if memory serves.  True, and I love it!  :~)  Well done, and my $10 is
coming.
-- 
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royce@splunge.uucp        (NeXTMail OK)   |   of ice-cream without being sick,
or royce%splunge@atlantis.uucp            |   Mrs. S-C-U-M."  --Mr. Neutron
or alberta!atlantis!splunge!royce or ...  |   C86Net: Mr._Neutron@RT.Alta
From: gchunt@mail.physics.utah.edu (galen c hunt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: WORM Drives...
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:51:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: fcom.1992Apr15.165148.29072
Organization: University of Utah - Physics Department

Is there anyone out there in usenet land that is using any type of WORM
drive with a NeXT.  I've got a NeXTstation and I'ld like something that
is *VERY* permanant for backup.  From what I understand, a WORM drive is
the only permanant backup media available.

If you are using a WORM drive, I'ld be very interested to know what hardware
and what software you are using along with any thoughts or comments.

Thanks,
   galen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: vhs@darkcube.radig.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai)
Subject: Re: Interesting Tibits - Microsoft & NeXT?
Reply-To: vhs@darkcube.radig.de
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 07:06:42 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.153940.12958@newshost.lanl.gov> tms@twins.lanl.gov (Todd  
M. Swan) writes:
> In article <1992Apr3.204553.2624@wcraft.wimsey.bc.ca>  
jchin@wcraft.wimsey.bc.ca  
> (Joseph Chin) writes:
> > Microsoft & NeXT?
> > -----------------
> >   Microsoft is just full of surprises these days. First Fox, what
> >   could be NeXT? The latest news from Redmond is that Mr. Bill has
> >   apparently overcome his dislike of Steve Jobs and the company will
> >   be porting its most popular applications to the NeXT. 
> 
> Did NeXT just close a 950,000 machine sale that we aren't aware of?  :-)

Not necessary. After all, M$ also tries to port Windoze NT (Losedoze) to ACE
platforms. How many ACE machines are sold yet? Certainly not a million.

--
Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@darkcube.radig.de)

If I had intel inside(tm), I'd throw up...
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From: gtoews@uglx.UVic.CA (Greg  Toews)
Subject: HP48SX and NeXT
Keywords: HP48SX
Reply-To: gtoews@uglx.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 22:45:56 GMT


Has anyone worked out the cable and software necessary
to connect an HP48SX to the NeXT.  Thanks.
From: cnh5730@maraba.tamu.edu (Charles Herrick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: The fix (was: files on ext. HD change their ownership by themselves ?!
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:57:05 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin

Axel Zinser writes
> I just connect my old 105-MB hard disk as a second disk to my  
NeXTstation.
[...]
> I recognized that the ownership of all files had been changed 

This belongs on comp.sys.next.sysadmin, so I've set the net news header  
line "Followup-To:" accordingly.

you need to have an entry in the file called /etc/fstab for both drives,  
otherwise the automounter resets ownership of files on drives that are not  
the boot drive. This happens when you log in (right?).

Put a second line into /etc/fstab like this:

/dev/sd1a	/OldDrive	4.3 rw, noquota	1 2

To learn more about this, launch Digital Librarian and search the UNIX man  
pages for fstab and mount and umount

and don't forget the command "mount -p" for those times when you can't  
remember the syntax of the lines you have to put in /etc/fstab!.

By the way, before you diddle with /etc/fstab, since you'll have to log in  
as root, make a copy of /etc/fstab first (call it something like  
fstab.original) and then edit /etc/fstab.

	Good luck
	chuck
From: jgshir@athena.mit.edu (John G Shirlaw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: 3.5" Erasible Optical Disk < $10/each
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:08:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Apr8.200807.23235
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Apr8.062404.3380@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>, garyc@lenny.acns.nwu.edu (Gary I. Chang) writes:
|> 	OD is dead due to cost, performance and reliablity problems. But  
|> how about the new 3.5 Erasible OD? Their speed is much faster than the  
|> origional OD and no caddy is need to hold the disk. As a matter of fact,  
|> they look nothing too different from the 3.5" Floppy ones. And I was told  
|> that Taiwan is going to mass-produce such disk for under $10/disk. For 128  
|> Megs per side of one disk and the comparable cost, shouldn't it be a  
|> reason to dust out the current 2.8 Meg FD like the new CD-ROM did to the  
|> old sad OD?
|> 
|> Gary

What sort of time scale are we talking about before 3.5" start shipping at this
price?

thanks 

john.
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From: sphere@netcom.com (Sam Goldberger)
Subject: Re: Mac <-> NeXT communication
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 06:49:33 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

bugs@atlantis.uucp (Dan Berry) writes:

>Not to mention that just running one of the NeXT's serial ports hogs about 20
>to 40% of the CPU time... it seems that there's no specialized IO to handle the
>serial ports and pesters the 68040 like a hungry mosquito on a hot summer day


Those Canucks have a great way with words!

Meanwhile (in a blatantly self-serving plug), Spherical's Enhanced
Processing Board (you may remember, the second board in the cube
to serve as an OD driver) offers two more serial ports, and allows
you to offload your serial I/0 from your main CPU to the slave.
It won't, of course, break the speed barrier.

We'll be posting "real soon now" about availability, pending resolution
of software licensing and other issues. Keep the cards and letters
coming.

Sam
sphere@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: NeXT used in Def Leppard video?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:36:01 GMT

melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger) writes:


>In article <s0d56INNq20@agate.berkeley.edu> et@ocf.berkeley.edu (Eric Thompson) writes:

>Looked like an SGI to me.

Me, too, but all I have to go on is the font and window border
style.
-- 
David Lemson                                                 (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant  / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu                 UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson 
NeXTMail accepted                                   BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Size of Nets (was Re: SEF did it again)
Date: 17 Apr 92 20:37:03 GMT
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison


In article <12542@tamsun.tamu.edu> cnh5730@maraba.tamu.edu
(Charles Herrick) writes:

>In article <1992Apr16.123812.23773@macc.wisc.edu>  
>anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:

>$ In article <1992Apr14.104753.13285@gagetalker.com>
>$ scotty@gagetalker.com (Scott Turner) writes:
>$ >As big as the Internet is, Usenet is far larger. 
 
>$ How big are they, according to you?

>really big.

Ho ho.  No prompting.  Let him answer.

-- 
Jess Anderson <> Madison Academic Computing Center <> University of Wisconsin
Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson
NeXTmail w/attachments: anderson@yak.macc.wisc.edu  Bitnet: anderson@wiscmacc
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From: pyrros@mars.cis.udel.edu (Christos T. Pyrros)
Subject: Re: The Problem with NewsGrazer
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 23:04:08 GMT

In article <1992Mar28.192225.15354@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> timm@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Tim McClarren) writes:
>Jim De Arras <jmd@banana.handheld.com> writes:
>
>>ANYBODY who blindly runs an executable mailed to them unexpectedly deserves
>>whatever happens!
>
>Sounds like someone wants to keep computing in the hands of the high preists.
>Whatever happened to 'computing for the rest of us', blah, blah.  I find
>this attitude to be pervasive, and I don't understand it.  How is someone
>who is an utter novice at computing supposed to know not to do such a thing?

As a system administrator, this is what I tell *all* my users, both novice
and expert:

Save often (every 5-10 minutes), save before switching applications or doing
fancy stuff, put your data on the net where it is backed
up daily by the sysadmin, and if it's super-duper important make spare
backups onto floppies.  And if you're doing anything top-top-top secret, unplug
your network cable, save it on two floppies and put them in separate
data-certified vaults.

This covers all kinds of contingencies anyone can expect to run into: power
glitches, software bugs & crashes (DOS/Windows!), goof ups, and viruses.

I've never seen anything happen that I couldn't just tell the user,
"Why didn't you save every 5 minutes instead of every 3 hours if it was so
important?".

I don't expect any end-user to know that if you are in Windows and have 5 
applications going at the same time while your DOS is loaded high and the files
variable is set to less than 100 that if you go shell out to DOS you probably
won't be able to come back....if they just safe often they don't have anything
to worry about.

And luckily for me, our Novell fileserver saves all deleted files for at least
24 hours (which end up on the tape within that time, anyway).


Christos
From: alanlb@thor.cs.vt.edu (Alan L. Batongbacal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: How to refocus a MegaPixel display?
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:26:56 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept., Blacksburg, VA

Hello there!  I have an out-of-warranty MegaPixel display that is out of
focus.  Actually, the upper-left region is so badly out of focus that
it's barely readable, while the lower-right region isn't as bad.  Could
this be a yoke alignment problem or something?  Anyway, my question is,
could someone tell me how to do the refocusing/realignment myself?  I
have access to an computer repair shop and am reasonably familiar with
electronic equipment.

Thanks!

-alan l. batongbacal
-alanlb@cs.vt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: greyham@research.canon.oz.au (Graham Stoney)
Subject: How to give a program launched by Workspace an environment?.
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 04:19:12 GMT

Can anyone give me an idea of a clean way to set environment variables in
programs launched from the workspace?. I'd like to do things like add
/usr/local/man to the MANPATH used by utilities->manual in Edit, and set
variables for use by Emacs.

I say "a clean way" because one of the local gurus has come up with this
neat, elegant, minimal, concise, ...... well, it is a solution I guess:

        i.      Create a file, say .workspacerc, that contains the
                following....

                #!/bin/sh
                var=value       export var
                ... (do other environment variables)
                exec /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/Workspace $@

        ii.     Make sure the above file is executable...

                chmod +x $HOME/.workspacerc

        iii.    Tell the Next login program what to run as Workspace...

                dwrite loginwindow Workspace $HOME/.workspacerc

Any clues?

thanks,
Graham.
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15 REM "The single most important environmental thing an Australian can do is
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From: mdw@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (mark.d.wuest)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Exception #2 (0.0) at 0x10037d4
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:47:27 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <29E5ADA2.6F04@deneva.sdd.trw.com> verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul B. Verket) writes:
>: The problem was that I had not enable parity checking. Though
>: NeXTAnswers says it is not required (and even points out that you take
>: a performance hit by enabling it)...
>I've heard about the performance hit before as well but I haven't
>heard how much of a hit? What are your impressions?

Well, 16 mb is always going to *look* faster than 8 mb on a Unix
station ;-) (our stockroom ran out of 4 mb simms). ;-(

*But*, when running the Concurrence demo, moving objects *is* more labored-
looking than before, so I concur ;-) with NeXT's claim.

Mark Wuest
mark.wuest@att.com (TeXT Mail only, please)
mdw@corona.att.com (NeXT Mail ok)
From: gerardo@uapnx1.dgsca.unam.mx (Gerardo Cisneros)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Top 10 reasons why you should buy a NeXT instead of an automobile
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:59:07 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.203248.11483@newshost.lanl.gov> tms@twins.lanl.gov (Todd  
M. Swan) writes:
> In article <1992Apr6.015956.1071@csus.edu> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)  
> writes:
> > Top 10 reasons why you should buy a NeXT instead of an automobile
> > 
> >  6. Exhaust isn't fatal
> > 
> 
> If you consider radiation to be "exhaust" then this could be debateable...  
:-)
Not much to debate, I think:
	a) Work in a closed office for 8 hours with a NeXT running.
	b) Work in a closed garage for 8 hours with an automobile running.
Which one is more likely to be fatal?
:-)
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gerardo@uapnx1.dgsca.unam.mx	|Instituto de Ciencias, UAP, Puebla
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