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From: sas010@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Tubular lock 'picking'
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:16:50 GMT

As far as tubular locks go, I read this in the Anarchist's Cookbook.  All ya
need to open one is a screwdriver, a sheet-metal screw, and a claw hammer.  You
take the screw and screw it into the slot with the screwdriver.  Then put the
screw under the head of the screw (like you are pulling a nail) and yank a
coupla times.  The lock is SUPPOSED to pop out into your hands.   Mind you I
have not tried this as of yet, but I have been told it works like a charm. 
Hope that helps!

					-=Sean

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Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: wax impressioning
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:51:15 GMT

DMR104@psuvm.psu.edu (David Ravegum) writes:
: Anyone out there have any advice/suggestions on how to copy a key by making a
: wax impression?  After you have the wax "mold", what do you fill it with to
: make a blank?  Thanks in advance.

You don't.  You use it as a guide for cutting a new key from a commercially
made blank.

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: lairdb@crash.cts.com (Laird P. Broadfield)
Subject: Cutting wheel for keys?
Organization: "Well, a head on top, an arm on each side, two legs...."
Date: 14 Dec 92 01:42:10 GMT

Does anybody have a source (or other reasonable suggestion) for a cutting
wheel to fit a Dremel-type tool?  I see the wheels to fit the full-size
key copiers all over the place, but for the sort of odd-job stuff I have
in mind, I'd rather go to some trouble than get a copy machine and a set
of depth masters for every manufacturer.


-- 
Laird P. Broadfield     lairdb@crash.cts.com    ...{ucsd, nosc}!crash!lairdb
Hi!  I'm a shareware signature!  Send $5 if you use me, send $10 for manual!
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: rboudrie@chpc.org (Rob Boudrie)
Subject: Re: push button gun safe locks
Organization: Center For High Perf. Computing of WPI; Marlboro Ma
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:26:21 GMT

In article <1g8rurINNa6o@male.EBay.Sun.COM> prize@trophy.EBay.Sun.COM writes:
>Hi,
>
>	I am thinking of getting one of those gun safes
>with push button locks. They are suppose to let you
>get to your firearm quick by pressing a five 
>button sequence. 
>
>	How do these locks work? Can you press a 
>button more than once. Like if the safe has five
>buttons do you have:
>			1st choice 1 of 5 buttons
>			2nd choice 1 of 4 buttons
>			3rd choice 1 of 3 buttons
>			4th choice 1 of 2 buttons
>			5th choice 1 of 1 buttons
>
>	or
>
>			1st choice 1 of 5 buttons
>			2nd choice 1 of 5 buttons
>			3rd choice 1 of 5 buttons
>			4th choice 1 of 5 buttons
>			5th choice 1 of 5 buttons
>
>Can anyone describe the mechanics or point me at a
>source of info?

These are simplex locks.  Each button can be used only once,
abut simutaneous pushes of any number of previously unused buttons
are allowed in teh combination.

The factory default combination is 2&4 simutaneously followed
by 3.

There are 1083 combinations possible.

The FAQ, frequently posted in the group, contains a pointer to
an FTPable file on these locks.

>
>Thanks,
>Ray
>
>


Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: rboudrie@chpc.org (Rob Boudrie)
Subject: HPC Code Book
Organization: Center For High Perf. Computing of WPI; Marlboro Ma
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:10:11 GMT


I made passing reference to the HPC code books in a previous posting,
and have recieved much mail asking for details.

The HPC code books are books (paper, microfiche or disk) used by
professional locksmiths.  They contain key number-> depth translation
tables for makes of locks in which this is not a direct relationship
(N.B.  Schlage lock number codes ar e adirect relationship 
corresponding to depth; the code numbers for master padlocks must
first be translated via a lookup table).  They also contain 
automotive key code info, and (at least 15 years ago when I was
last shown a set by a professional locksmith) serial # to
combnation lookup tables for Master combination padlocks.

I assume they're available from locksmithing supply houses, but haven't
been exposed to the business for many years and am somewhat out of touch.
From: kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Re: HPC Code Book
Summary: I see...
Date: 13 Dec 92 01:25:40 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

>In article <1992Dec12.041011.11601@chpc.org> rboudrie@chpc.org (Rob Boudrie) writes:
>> ...
>>The HPC code books are books (paper, microfiche or disk) used by
>>professional locksmiths.  They contain key number-> depth translation
>>tables for makes of locks in which this is not a direct relationship
>>(N.B.  Schlage lock number codes ar e adirect relationship 
>>corresponding to depth; the code numbers for master padlocks must
>>first be translated via a lookup table).  They also contain 
>>automotive key code info, and (at least 15 years ago when I was
>>last shown a set by a professional locksmith) serial # to
>>combnation lookup tables for Master combination padlocks.

I see, so when I buy a padlock, the first thing I should do is scratch out
the serial number. Are Dudley locks harder to pick than Master locks, btw?
-- 
Odisseas Kosmatos               "Nous sommes les robots" -- moi
e-mail:                         << L'homme, serviteur de l'automate,
kosmatoo@jsp.umontreal.ca          deviendra lui-meme un automate. un robot. >>
shammer@mafalda.math.mcgill.ca                           -- Duham
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: hes@unity.ncsu.edu (Henry E. Schaffer)
Subject: Re: HPC Code Book
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 05:18:46 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.041011.11601@chpc.org> rboudrie@chpc.org (Rob Boudrie) writes:
> ...
>The HPC code books are books (paper, microfiche or disk) used by
>professional locksmiths.  They contain key number-> depth translation
>tables for makes of locks in which this is not a direct relationship
>(N.B.  Schlage lock number codes ar e adirect relationship 
>corresponding to depth; the code numbers for master padlocks must
>first be translated via a lookup table).  They also contain 
>automotive key code info, and (at least 15 years ago when I was
>last shown a set by a professional locksmith) serial # to
>combnation lookup tables for Master combination padlocks.
>
>I assume they're available from locksmithing supply houses, but haven't
>been exposed to the business for many years and am somewhat out of touch.

  Yes they are still available, and there are a number of other
companies which produce code books (such as Baxter, Reed and Locksmith
Ledger) but these books aren't cheap.  HPC publishes at least
8 different code books (or code book sets.)
General  $225
Padlock $200
Foreign $200
Combination $160
KABA $100
Domestic Auto $75
Pin tumbler $37.50
Locksmith Shop (General less auto) $150
Illinois $5.93

--henry schaffer
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:30:23 EST
From: David Ravegum <DMR104@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject:    wax impressioning

Anyone out there have any advice/suggestions on how to copy a key by making a
wax impression?  After you have the wax "mold", what do you fill it with to
make a blank?  Thanks in advance.
                                                                     Dave
                                                           dmr104@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: sgw@athena.mit.edu (stephen g. wadlow)
Subject: Re: Tubular lock 'picking'
Organization: MIT Dept of Brain and Cognitive Sciences
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:43:49 GMT
Expires: Sat, 1 Jan 1994 05:00:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.121650.1@acad.drake.edu> sas010@acad.drake.edu writes:

> As far as tubular locks go, I read this in the Anarchist's Cookbook.  All ya
> need to open one is a screwdriver, a sheet-metal screw, and a claw hammer.  You
> take the screw and screw it into the slot with the screwdriver.  Then put the
> screw under the head of the screw (like you are pulling a nail) and yank a
> coupla times.  The lock is SUPPOSED to pop out into your hands.   Mind you I
> have not tried this as of yet, but I have been told it works like a charm. 
> Hope that helps!
>
>					   -=Sean

this isn't picking.  it's brute force. There's a large difference....
Let't try and stick to locksmithing, not vandalism...

			steve
From: rikardur@rhi.hi.is (Rikhardur Egilsson)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: So ?
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:35:12 GMT

So how about it ? How come this grout has none (0) msgs ?

 Am I misunderstanding it or does locksmithing = lockpicking etc. etc.
 ???
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis)
Subject: Re: wax impressioning
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 01:53:07 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16f by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: margoli@watson.IBM.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: The Village Waterbed

In <1992Dec18.195115.28399@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>DMR104@psuvm.psu.edu (David Ravegum) writes:
>: Anyone out there have any advice/suggestions on how to copy a key by making a
>: wax impression?  After you have the wax "mold", what do you fill it with to
>: make a blank?  Thanks in advance.
>
>You don't.  You use it as a guide for cutting a new key from a commercially
>made blank.

Are you sure?  I saw them do it on "Mission:  Impossible" once...  :-)

Seriously - if you have a depth key set, you can eyeball the impression
and read the numbers off the corresponding depth keys.  Also, if you don't
have any wax handy, a styrofoam cup works fairly well.
--
Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Organization: large
Date: 15 Dec 1992 13:17:59 EST
Expires: 1 Apr 93 12:34
Subject: Tubular Picks
From: hobbit@babyoil.ftp.com (*Hobbit*)

   they usually have an L shaped bend to make it easier to move them and to
   feel what's going on.

That's not how you're supposed to use those picks.  The method for which
they are designed is much faster than straightforward picking.  The frictional
force which the "rubber band" exerts is carefully designed to be slightly
greater than the spring tension behind the lock pins, such that the slider
will push the pin by default but if there is torque on the lock, the *pin*
will push the *slider*.  The sliders are set with their ends flush with the
end of the tool, and then a repeated cycle of

	back the entire tool out about a cut height's worth
	apply torque, push tool back in
	release torque; repeat until the right thing happens

Basically, it's a really fast impressioning method.  Some tubular lock models
have stronger springs; some of the tools have an adjustable clamp for the
O-ring to compensate for this [and O-ring wear].

_H*
From: pyro@wpi.WPI.EDU (Stephen D Tomas)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Magnetic Card Readers - VendaCard
Date: 14 Dec 1992 15:58:23 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

My school uses a magnetic card system to control photocopying.  The
card readers are made by XCP Inc.  They are called VendaCard and are not
connected to anything else but the copier.  However (here comes the question)
they have a 9pin D connector on the back and also a phone jack type plug.
Does anyone know what I might expect to see as output from these or what I 
could send as input (protocol?).  They are definately RS-232 (ok, I couldnt
resist looking inside the box and it was labeled RS-232 ;-).

I just happen to have an HP48sx with a serial cable (rs232) and kermit 
protocol built in.  Could I connect to one of these boxes?  There are
other transfer protocols available for the calc if need be.

Thanks in advance for any advice,
pyro@wpi.wpi.edu


Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: HPC Code Book
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 07:29:25 GMT

kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) writes:
: 
: I see, so when I buy a padlock, the first thing I should do is scratch out
: the serial number. Are Dudley locks harder to pick than Master locks, btw?

No, the first thing you should do is write the number down, and store it
in a safe place. That is, if you feel the lock is worth enough to keep track
of the code. Then, you remove the serial number.

Bill
From: psr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Lord Strider)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Home Study courses
Summary: advice on
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:39:02 GMT
Organization: UB

In addition to finding a locksmith who wants to take me on as an apprentice,
I'm looking at correspondence courses.  If any of you have ever taken one of
these, I would appreciate your comments.  Be sure to include the name of the 
school you attended.  Thanks.
I'm currently favoring NRI.  The cost for this one is ~$1000.


-- 
Strider                     | SUNY @ Buffalo | psr@acsu.buffalo.edu
Lord Mayor, The Hill People | (716) 636 4862 | V127MHSK@ubvms.bitnet

"Son, I am able," she said, "though you scare me."  "Watch," said I, "beloved."
From: eckert@anduin.ocf.llnl.gov (Philip Eckert)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Informatik guide
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:02:57 GMT
Reply-To: eckert@anduin.UUCP (Philip Eckert)
Organization: Lawrence Livermore Nat'l Lab.

A month or so ago, someone in this group listed the ftp site of where to
get the informatik guide that included an article on lockpicking.  I
fetched it at the the time, but have since "lost" it.  Could someone
refresh my memory as to which ftp site it was at?  Thank you.
From: ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Re: A fast terminological question
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:35:04 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Dec10.031841.1988@rat.csc.calpoly.edu> rteasdal@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Rusty) writes:
>

[Deletia of tubular locks like the ones on vending machines]

>	Is there a generic term, or trademark that's become one, for
>this type of key configuration?

  I have always heard it called an Ace lock, even though there are some
"clones" out there.

-- 
              ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu  (Douglas Floyd)
              Disclaimer:  I speak for myself

Windows NT is a great reason to leave your 486-66 EISA turned off.
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: vhalkka@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Vesa Halkka)
Subject: Re: Abloy locks
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:39:45 GMT

In <1992Dec05.080758.70138@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis) writes:

>>Local thieves have a thing called 'vempele' to open them.

>Translation, please?

It does not mean anything, it is just a name. I have never seen one,
but it can't be easy to make or easy to use because average thieves
and locksmiths use other methods, drill and force.

It is common enough to have a name, though.

--
Vesa Halkka                       -O___/ 
University of Helsinki CC:         (  /   	 vhalkka@helsinki.fi 
Centre for scientific computing:  ~~~~~  	 vhalkka@csc.fi
From: cullen@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: How much should this cost?
Date: 16 Dec 92 11:34:04 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Note: All prices are Canadian.

I called a local locksmith about re-keying 2 master padlocks
I have. The cores are medeco 7 pin and they would be keyed 
alike. The locksmith wants 20.00 each for repinning, and
6.50 for each key. This seems a trifle expensive to me so,
I was wondering how much this usually costs.

Also, does anyone know canadian sources for medeco rekeying
kits? I figure that I can do it myself if I have the parts.

Thanks for any help.
					Mur
					Cullen@ac.dal.ca
					Cullen@ug.cs.dal.ca

Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: lspangle@nyx.cs.du.edu (L. A. Spangler)
Subject: wax impressioning / Friendly Plastic 
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 16:43:10 GMT


A recent post regarding wax impressions got me to thinking (always a 
dangerous persuit on a weekend) whether "Friendly Plastic" would work 
for impressions.  

If you're not familiar with FP, it's a plastic material which when 
heated in boiling water becomes quite pliable, but after cooling off 
becomes quite stiff.   

To an admitted amature, it seems if perhaps it could be inserted into 
a keyway, it might eliminate one step used when making an impression.  
In the alternative, it might be a better material to make the impression 
of a key since it would retain the shape/depth/cut of the teeth better 
than a softer wax.  Of course, having a pot of boiling water handy 
when you obtain that one special key might present some problems. :-)) 

Lance Spangler 

        	|   Lance Spangler is lspangle@nyx.cs.du.edu  |  
	        |	    Straight but not narrow...        | 
		|     Colorado should be ashamed following    |	
		| 	 the passage of Amendment Two!        | 
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From: gardner@convex.com (Steve Gardner)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Marijuana Effects
Keywords: Marijuana Effects
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:20:51 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1992Dec17.53247.13786@ms.uky.edu> sheila@nx26.mik.uky.edu (shelia c kinney) writes:
>I've heard, um, my friend has heard that there
> are tiny particles of fiber glass in menthol cigarettes; the 
> "cool" sensation is due in part to the fiber glass cutting 
> into the lung tissue.
	Where do they get stuff like this?  Is there a strychnine universe
	for tobacco products too?


					smg
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jcherney@envy.reed.edu (Joel Alexander Cherney)
Subject: Re: What drug is Internet most similar to?
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:36:50 GMT
Reply-To: jcherney@reed.edu

David A. Honig writes
> >What drug is Internet most similar to?
> 
> Alcohol.  There's lots of it, and it makes you stupid.

Well... 
LSD: The Net is nothing at all like reality and alters your perception of everything.
Pot: You lose track of time while you're on it.
Speed: You stay awake for LONG periods of time while you are on it.
From: cliftonr@netcom.com (Pope Clifton)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: On PBS: "Brainstorm: The Truth about Your Brain on Drugs
Date: 15 Dec 92 12:14:24 GMT
Organization: t.b, t.p.d, & a.d
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

s2822338 (S2822338@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU) wrote:
: > Tonight, my local PBS station is broadcasting:
: > 
: > "A 3-2-1 Contact Extra
: >  Brainstorm: The Truth About Your Brain on Drugs.
  I watched most of it with my six-year-old daughter, with lots
of discussion about it.  I had very mixed feelings about it.  Let's
just say that it wasn't as bad as it could have been.
  It's too late for a coherent review; it's 2:15 am, I've got insomnia
and I'm a basket case.  I'll try to write something up tomorrow.
  -- Clifton

--
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"Have a revelation, the first one's free/Soon to be addicted to eternity" - HMR
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jftheysm@descartes.uwaterloo.ca (Jef)
Subject: PERSONAL STORAGE PROBLEM HELP!
 
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:14:49 GMT

  Howdy!

  A Question, Whats the best was to store a little bit 'o' that nasty black so it doen't get all stale and raunchy?  Does it get freezer burn?

  Just wonderin.

Take Care.

-Fej-

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: eesnyder@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Eric E. Snyder)
Subject: Re: Ephedrine Reduction (was RE: Ephadrine)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 12 Dec 92 20:26:36 GMT

aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:

> Furthermore amphetamine can be rather easilly prepared from phenyalanine.
>(Repke, D., J Pharm Sci 67, 1167 (1978). 

If this is the synth that I am thinking of, it was done on a miligram scale.
The yield was 25 mg, if I remember correctly.  The method was more of a 
synthetic exercise than an useful "commercial" procedure.  IMHO, it was not
particularly straightforward.  

While reduction from ephedrine seems the most common illicit method, 
reductive amination from phenyl-2-propanone is definitely the most simple,
provided P-2-P is available.  

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From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: THC production in MJ.
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:44:42 GMT

In article <Russel_Mcauliffe.5tot@equinox.gen.nz>, Russel_Mcauliffe@equinox.gen.nz (Russel Mcauliffe) writes:
>Can anyone tell me what causes/stimulates MJ to produce THC? Is it produced
>in response to light or to certain chemicals? Would the type of lighting
>(flourescent vs. incandescent) noticably effect the production of THC?

THC is produced in resin.  Resin production is maximized by high temperature
and low humidity.  I suspect the reason people report good results with
high power, less efficient lights is their effect on temperature and
relative humidity.  

THC production also increases as daylength increases.  One study found the
addition of a 40-watt incandescent light to increase the daylength in a
greenhouse to 14 hours *doubled* THC production.  The problem with this is
that most strains will not flower under 14-hour illumination.

It has been speculated that THC is produced as a defense against UV-short
light, causing high-altitude pot to be the most potent.  Regular lights
don't emit any UV-short, though, because human eyes and skin can't protect
themselves by secreting THC.  :^)

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
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