HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: davison@borland.com (Wayne Davison)
Subject: Re: trn2.2/mthreads mt.log error message
Organization: Borland International
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:27:47 GMT

manley@optilink.UUCP (Terry Manley) wrote:
> mthreads reports the following:
> Nov 16 08:41+** line in 'active' has no space:  **
> [...] Ideas anyone?

How about looking in the active file and removing/fixing the line that
is lacking a space?  Is there an empty line in the file, for example?

..Wayne..
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: brendt@dip3.ee.uct.ac.za (Brendt Wohlberg)
Subject: Tin and OpenWindows
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 14:29:45 GMT
Organization: University of Cape Town
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

I'm currently using Tin 1.1 PL6 on a SUN sparc2 running OpenWindows 3, but am
having problems with the Tin window clearing itself whenever it should refresh
(such as when it a window which partially or completely obscured it is moved 
away.) This doesn't happen when I run Tin from an xterm.

Is this a known bug, or is it a problem with OpenWindows? 
Any suggestions? Does 1.1 PL7 have the same problem?

______________________________________
Brendt Wohlberg                       |
Electronic Engineering Department     |
University of Cape Town               |
e-mail: brendt@dip1.ee.uct.ac.za      |
        whlbre01@uctvax.uct.ac.za     |
        bwohlberg@eleceng.uct.ac.za   |
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers,comp.sources.testers,news.future
From: cudep@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Ian Dickinson)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: BUG!! xvnews version 2.0.2
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:19:23 GMT
Organization: Team Limpid's Meathead With Aptitude - Kunst und Wahnsinn
NNTP-Posting-Host: spatula.csv.warwick.ac.uk

In article <BxnEDs.730@brunel.ac.uk> cs92bbm@brunel.ac.uk writes:
>XVNews2.1 is available if you mail dfc@resumix.portal.com. He kindly sent me
>it, and I must say there are some definate improvements. Still no threads
>though.

Threads would be nice....specially Geoff Collyers "nov" threads...

Is there a Cancel button yet?

Cheers,
-- 
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/I=I/S=Dickinson/OU=CSV/O=Warwick/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/            anyone is
@c=GB@o=University of Warwick@ou=Computing Services@cn=Ian Dickinson  watching.
From: etxmesa@eos.ericsson.se (Michael Salmon)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: xrn won`t add "Lines:" to my header!  Why?
Date: 17 Nov 92 09:07:59 GMT
Reply-To: etxmesa@eos.ericsson.se (Michael Salmon)
Organization: Ericsson Telecom AB

In article <BxuDMJ.9JD@csfb1.fir.fbc.com>, jbrock@csfb1.fir.fbc.com (John E. Brock) writes:
|> When I post an article to the net, xrn usually (but not always!)
|> neglects to add a "Lines:" line to my header.  When I view the article
|> later (using xrn again) what I see is [?] where the number of lines
|> should be (in the xrn display, not in my header).

This is unfortunately not a function of xrn, the Lines: line is added
by your nntp server and, in most cases this code is commented out.
Please ask the administrator of your nntp server to remove the
commenting. Here are the lines concerned in inews:

   187  # lines="`                      # sop to msb, just uncomment to use
   188  # (sed 1d $inbody;              # take out the first (blank) line
   189  # if test -r $HOME/.signature; then
   190  #       echo '-- '
   191  #       sed 4q $HOME/.signature
   192  # fi) | wc -l `"
   193  # echo Lines: $lines

-- 

Michael Salmon

#include	<standard.disclaimer>
#include	<witty.saying>
#include	<fancy.pseudo.graphics>

Ericsson Telecom AB
Stockholm
From: dougv@vnet.ibm.com (Doug Valkenaar)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 09:58:31 PST
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Wanted: OpenLook/Xview threaded news reader
Reply-To: dougv@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: ROLM
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0

Anybody know of an OpenLook/XView news reader that supports threads?
'xvnews' is great, but doesn't support threads.  'trn' is super, but
is not GUI.

Help will be appreciated.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
D. Douglas Valkenaar       ROLM PhoneMail         (dougv@vnet.ibm.com)
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: zcjm0f@wwnv45.uucp (CJohn Mace)
Subject: News Reader for PC wanted
Keywords: n
Organization: Amoco Production
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:28:31 GMT


I need some information for getting a news reader for a pc.  I have heard
that they exist, I just don't know where to find them.  I just need to
know where they are and what they are called, I can get them with ftpmail.
(no direct access to internet  :-(   )

Please email responses to me at zcjm0f@hou.amoco.com
Thanx in advance

cjohn mace   <- hates pc's  ...
From: ucbked@athena (Earl H. Kinmonth)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: batch mode readers
Date: 15 Nov 1992 15:58:08 GMT
Organization: Centre for Japanese Studies, Univ. of Sheffield
NNTP-Posting-Host: athena.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Nov15.032152.11098@clarinet.com> brad@clarinet.com (Brad Templeton) writes:
>I am not sure what you want a batch newsreader for, other than to do
>batch gathering of articles or filtering of a .newsrc?
>
>Two tools I have written, newsclip and dynafeed, available on ftp.clarinet.com,
>can do these tasks.
>-- 
>Brad Templeton, ClariNet Communications Corp. -- Sunnyvale, CA 408/296-0366

i want something that can be run from a cron script to mail
newsgroups to me.
-- 
earl h. kinmonth, centre for japanese studies, university of sheffield,
sheffield, england s10 2tn  jp1ek@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk
From: tleylan@pegasus.com (Tom Leylan)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: trn command for this
Date: 19 Nov 92 01:50:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: pegasus.1992Nov19.015024.23260
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu

Folks:  I don't know if any of you experience the same problem but I think
it must be common (perhaps just more annoying to me).

Basically trn lists newsgroups by name and number of unread messages and
that number of messages is almost always incorrect.  Obviously some new
messages will have come in and some older ones will have scrolled off of
the system (I understand _why_ the number is out of whack).

So prior to reading I'd like to issue a sort of "go through the entire list
and update your message counts" sort of a command.  The equivalent (though
I would hope faster) of "+" followed by "q" which doesn't do anything but
cause trn to go out and update the message count.

Is there some built-in (or external way to do this) ?  Thanks...

tom
Xref: sparky news.software.readers:2202 alt.sources.d:1423 alt.sys.amiga.uucp:2712 de.comp.sys.amiga:694
From: sbpress@csws20 (The Stony Brook Press)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,alt.sources.d,alt.sys.amiga.uucp,de.comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Tin v1.1 PL7 newsreader (patch) posted to alt.sources
Date: 17 Nov 92 03:48:24 GMT
Organization: The State University of New York at Stony Brook
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Where can I get instructions on how to use tin and the man pages?

Thanks
Daniel Glasner
sbpress@ic.sunysb.edu
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,news.future
From: rthomson@mesa.dsd.es.com (Rich Thomson)
Subject: Multiple host NNTP news reader?
Followup-To: news.software.reader
Organization: Design Systems Division, Evans & Sutherland, SLC, UT
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 21:10:34 GMT

Sometimes you want a news reader that can use NNTP to talk to multiple
hosts to read/post news.  For instance, my company has an internal set
of newsgroups that are spooled on a different machine.  It would be
nice to use a single newsreader to read both the internal groups and
the external groups.

Right now, I have shell scripts that set environment variables to get
rrn to talk to the other NNTP server.

However, what are the issues/problems involved in having a news reader
that talks to multiple NNTP servers concurrently?  I would imagine the
groups display would look like:

**  5 unread articles in ucbvax.berkeley.edu:ucb.general--read now? [ynq]
** 10 unread articles in es.com:general--read now? [ynq]
etc.

Has anyone looked into this idea?  Or, better yet, does anyone know of
a newsreader that does this already?  I would think there would have
to be some care taken with inews, .newsrc files, etc., to ensure
consistency.  When I post to different servers, I might want to
maintain different options for the format of the messages and
signature used.  In my existing situation, my shell scripts set the
envariable DOTDIR so that I can use a different signature, etc.

If you've ever wanted to read regional hierarchies across the internet
without having to arrange a local spool of the hierarchy (harder than
just setting NNTPSERVER and DOTDIR), you know what I'm talking about.

						    -- Rich
-- 
		      Don't blame me; I voted Libertarian
Disclaimer: I speak for myself, except as noted; Copyright 1992 Rich Thomson
UUCP: ...!uunet!dsd.es.com!rthomson			Rich Thomson
Internet: rthomson@dsd.es.com	IRC: _Rich_		PEXt Programmer
From: rsalz@rodan.UU.NET (Rich Salz)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: 3rd patch to inn?
Date: 16 Nov 1992 15:40:22 -0500
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

I have been very busy with hard work deadlines at OSF and various personal
things going on.  I have to have patch3 out by the end of this week.  It
might be a full release if only because I will not have had the chance to
upgrade my tools (the Perl script "d") to switch to putting out the whole
file if the diff is too big.
	/r$
From: mike@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de (Mike Hoffmann)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: Error incurred after removing group with INN
Date: 23 Nov 1992 20:01:56 +0100
Organization: Siemens-Nixdorf AG, AP 712
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: horus.ap.mchp.sni.de

In article <1enlgvINN7nn@cae.cad.gatech.edu> Noah.White@cad.gatech.edu writes:

>  I have been getting a mess of error messages from expire. It has been choking
>out on groups which have been removed with rmgroup. Is there anyway for me 
>to keep it from barfing all this into the Daily report? Here is a sample:

>Group not matched (removed?) bit.listserv.wpcorp-l

This not your regular me-too message! :-)

I have/had this very same behavior after a disk crash when I tried to 
re-build the active and history files.

Right now, in desparation I am rebuilding the whole system from scratch...
meaning I deleted the whole news-partition and started anew, you never
know what such a crash might have destroyed. Seems like it doesn't all come
from the crash.

The news-daily message was between 6-16000 lines long...

Mike
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From: rsalz@rodan.UU.NET (Rich Salz)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: Summary: Problems & Solutions getting INN to work
Date: 18 Nov 1992 15:59:41 -0500
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
Distribution: inet

In <1e8gjeINN8hc@milk.Warren.MENTORG.COM> tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Limoncelli) writes:
>I hope Rich adds to the newsfeeds man page that "ME:!*::" makes a really
>good "ME" line.  (Listening Rich?)
Yes, but the best "ME" line is one that limits the distributions of
incoming aritcles.  This is what patch3 has for doc/newsfeeds.5:
    ##  Initial subscription list and our distributions.
    ME:*,!junk,!foo.*/world,usa,na,ne,foo,ddn,gnu,inet\e
	    ::

>Agreed.  news.daily needs to check to see if it's running as "news"
>and refuse to run otherwise.  ...and the man page needs to stress this.
The docs do say that only innd (or, better, inndstart) need to be
run by news, usually out of rc.news.  news.daily.8 now has an italic
warning not to run it as root.  I don't really think there's a need for
	cast `whoami | grep ${NEWSUID} | wc` in
	*0*)	echo Do not run this as root 1>&2 ; exit 1 ;;
	esac
at the top of news.daily.

>>I realise that I have the "double hosts" problem in my path
>It's in the man page but it's not easy to find.
Right doesn't believe that it is really a problem, only for that small
number of articles that get posted on the same host where innd is running.

>The best "moderator" file is just:
>*:%s@uunet.uu.net
If that is all you need (i.e., no local moderated groups) you don't need
a moderators file, just have a "moderatormailer" entry in inn.conf
	/r$
From: rsalz@rodan.UU.NET (Rich Salz)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: Proxy agent for NNTP traffic
Date: 18 Nov 1992 16:04:33 -0500
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA

In <1992Nov17.160633.27876@muc.ibm.de> afx@ibm.de writes:
>A good solution in my opinion would be a proxy NNTP agent on the gateway that 
>passes NNTP traffic between the internal server and our feeding site.
A program to do this is included in INN; look at backends/rcompress.c.
Run it out of inetd.  When someone connects to the NNTP port on your gateway
host, this program connects to the NNTP port on an internal host (compiled
in) and forwards all traffic between the two.  Small and simple; 200 lines
of commented code.
	/r$

>By the way, where do I find the INN FAQ that was mentioned previously in this 
>group?
The latest version will be posted here (and news.answers) shortly.
	/r$
From: vperc@thor.calgary.chevron.com (l. david percifield)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Need News reader for SUN OS
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:33:02 GMT
Organization: chevron

I would like to get a news reader for SUN OS preferably a windowed variety.

Where does such a beast reside?


-- 
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  Systems Support	                Unix & Open Systems
  CPTC      				Tel: (403) 234-5201
  Calgary, Alberta, Canada  		Fax: (403) 234-5215
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: broken pipe errors from nntpd
Organization: The Gator Conferencing System 219-289-3745 
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:49:45 GMT

I keep seeing errors like this in my logs since 2AM this morning.

Any ideas?

Nov 18 12:18:12 localhost nntpd[2178]: news.cs.indiana.edu connect
Nov 18 12:29:24 localhost nntpd[2980]: news.cs.indiana.edu connect
Nov 18 17:29:26 localhost nntpd[2980]: news.cs.indiana.edu disconnect: Broken pipe
Nov 18 17:29:26 localhost nntpd[2980]: news.cs.indiana.edu times user 0.170 system 0.150 elapsed 7.000
-- 
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keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry
From: dclunie@pax.tpa.com.au (David Clunie)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Strange Message - INN
Date: 22 Nov 1992 21:53:18 GMT
Organization: Her Master's Voice
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dclunie@pax.tpa.com.au
NNTP-Posting-Host: britt.pax.tpa.com.au

Every now and then I see the following message in the new.daily report ...

Unknown entries from news log file:
Nov 23 08:15:42 flash innd: ME cant sendto CCreader bytes 4 No such file or directory

Anyone know what the significance of this is ?

david
From: Christophe.Wolfhugel@grasp.insa-lyon.fr (Christophe Wolfhugel)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: use of nntplink -i stdin with INN
Date: 20 Nov 1992 08:49:10 +0100
Organization: INSA Informatique (Grasp), Lyon, France
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr

ianh@resmel.bhp.com.au (Ian Hoyle) asks:
>   :Tc,Wnm:/usr/local/news/bin/nntplink -i stdin merlin

I suppose that you use nntplink 3.0.x, this version does not properly handle
the close on timeout on stdin. If I have read well the docs, nntplink 3.1
has been fixed for this (but I yet still prefer using the batchfile mode).

-- 
Christophe Wolfhugel    |    Email: Christophe.Wolfhugel@grasp.insa-lyon.fr
  "Pour le bien-etre de tous, il est interdit de pisser dans le metro."
From: rsalz@rodan.UU.NET (Rich Salz)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: Error incurred after removing group with INN
Date: 23 Nov 1992 10:13:10 -0500
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

In <1enlgvINN7nn@cae.cad.gatech.edu> Noah.White@cad.gatech.edu writes:
>Group not matched (removed?) bit.listserv.wpcorp-l
Please read doc/expire.8, in particular the -q flag.
Expire is finding history entries for articles in that group, and the
group isn't in the active file.

This will be handled better in patch 3:  one warning/group, rather
than one warning/article.
	/r$
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
From: jfw@technix.mn.org (Jerry Wallace)
Subject: Re: errors
Organization: Private System - Saint Paul, MN
Distribution: inet
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:07:59 GMT

Peter Wemm writes:

>The bit about the extra memory usage:  INN calls the dbz function

Could folks elaborate a bit on how much memory inn likes to have?  I
have a couple sites I want to convert, but I hesitate because of
unknown memory requirements.

Thanks for your comments.
-- 
Jerry Wallace                    TechNIX, Inc.          | I always lie
Electronic: jfw@technix.mn.org   103 Healy Building     | -- and I'm
  Acoustic: +1 612 645 7684      2301 Como Avenue       | always right.
 Ballistic: Hah!                 Saint Paul, MN  55108  |      - Bob
From: noah@cad.gatech.edu (Noah White)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: INN expire query
Date: 23 Nov 1992 11:34:25 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology, CAE/CAD Lab
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Noah.White@cad.gatech.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: goldeneye.cad.gatech.edu


Quick question..when I do a ctlinnd mode I get reserved Expiring Process ####
Does that mean thatthat when it is expire is run it always gets process ####?
Thanks in adv.

--
Noah White			Internet: noah@cad.gatech.edu

"No guts, no glory. If you are going to shoot him down, you have to get in 
 there and mix it up with him."	  -Major Frederick C. "Boots" Blesse, USAF
				   10 Victories, Korean Conflict
From: tgll@datasci.co.uk (Tim Lyons)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Help wanted on nntp sender
Date: 17 Nov 92 10:28:48 GMT
Reply-To: tgll@datasci.co.uk (Tim Lyons)
Organization: Data Sciences, Farnborough, Hampshire, UK

Why is the sender field in news articles getting changed?

I am using nntp 1.5.11 and b-news on a sun.  I have the SPOOLNEWS
and SPOOLINEWS options set in news.  I have set POSTER in nntp
to be "nntp-server".  I post a news article to a local newsgroup
using nntp, and if I look at the spoolfile (in /usr/spool/news/.rnews)
the sender says "nntp-server@datasci.co.uk" as I would expect.
However, if I run rnews -U, the sender gets changed to "tgll@datasci.co.uk".
in the actual news file. WHY?

rnews is a symbolic link to inews, and inews is owned by news and is
setuid and setgid.  When I run rnews, I am logged in as tgll, should this
matter?  I thought it might be due to aliases in the mailfiles, so
I removed the aliases for nntp-server, but that didn't make any difference.

Thanks for any help
Tim Lyons
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: inbound bundle size
Organization: The Gator Conferencing System 219-289-3745 
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:15:40 GMT

I've noticed that our inbound nntp bundles get quite large --
How can I control the size of these inbound bundles?

-- 
Larry Snyder                                    internet: larry@gator.rn.com
keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
From: jamesko@bnr.ca (James Ko)
Subject:  Where can I get INN/NNTP Descriptions
Followup-To: jamesko@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:47:50 GMT

Hi Netter, 

I am new to the INN and NNTP.  I wonder if anyone out there
care to tell me where to find more information about INN and 
NNTP. In particular, I heard that INN supports Secure NNTP.
Where can I learn more about these sort of things?  
Any suggestions appreciated.

James Ko
email:  jamesko@bnr.ca

Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
From: als@bohra.cpg.oz.au (Anthony Shipman)
Subject: bug in nntp.1.5.11
Organization: Computer Power Software
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:33:16 GMT

I had a problem with nntpxmit V1.5.11 on a Pyramid running OSx64N.
This has an old stdio that hasn't got its signed and unsigned chars in order.

In remote.c I had to change

    #define PUTC(c) if (putc(c, remote) != EOF) return(FALSE)
to
    #define PUTC(c) if (putc(c, remote),ferror(remote)) return(FALSE)

otherwise an error was recorded when the article contained a 0xff character.


-- 
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Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
From: grmensz@grmensz.erenj.com (Gary R. Menszyk)
Subject: News reader for ULTRIX?
Followup-To: news.software.nntp
Organization: Exxon Research and Engineering, New Jersey
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:52:51 GMT

We have a number of ULTRIX users who would like a nice windowed application
for reading Net News....

Is there something available?

Thanks.....
Gary Menszyk
From: cal@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Cal Lott)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: How to re-subscribe to a newsgroup?
Date: 22 Nov 92 21:52:29 GMT
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations


	How does one re-subscribe to a previously unsubscribed newsgroup?
I have tried using the "G" command, and even editing the .newsrc manually
with a text editor, but nn still does not recognize the groups as being
subscribed to. Even the man pages weren't useful.

	Help!

						-Cal
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp,news.software.b
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: nntp and dbz with preformance c-news release
Organization: The Gator Conferencing System 219-289-3745 
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 02:20:49 GMT

We are running the preformance release of cnews along
with nntp.  We are getting a fair number of duplicates
in vi nntp, which I thought should be checked prior to
sending.

-- 
Larry Snyder                                    internet: larry@gator.rn.com
keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp,news.software.b