HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sj@cs.brown.edu (Shuang Ji)
Subject: Re: WHO CARES??!!
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 22:13:11 GMT

In article <BzJ1rG.641@acsu.buffalo.edu>, lan@acsu.buffalo.edu (Yan Lan) writes:
|> 
|>  I'm really really tired of all the articles about  whether Taiwanese,Hong-
|> 
|> kongese are Chinese or not.
|> 
|>  If they believe that they are Chinese.  OK.
|> 
|>  If they think that they are not Chinese.  FINE.
|> 
|> 
|>    So  What????!!!!
|> 
|>    WHO CARES???!!!!!
|> 
|> 
|>  
|>  

TWO THUMBS UP!!!!
From: chen@digital.sps.mot.com (Jinfu Chen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: See Far's Prediction
Date: 29 Dec 92 22:37:19 GMT
Organization: Motorola, LICD, SPS, Mesa, AZ

While 1993 is still a few days away, I can't seem to forget Mr/Mrs See Far's
prediction about China using the "push-back diagram".  Does anyone keep a
copy of his/her prediction?  If so could it be re-post it here?

If the prediction were based on lunar calendar, sorry about my impatience.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: ping@bnlux1.bnl.gov (Shiping Zhang)
Subject: Re: We Taiwanese have won this general election..
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 02:18:13 GMT

In article <1ha87tINNt7u@flash.pax.tpa.com.au> anon.121@pax.tpa.com.au writes:
>
>u333057@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw writes:
>
>>    We Taiwanese have told all over the world that we could have 
>>good real democracy on our own.We have the newest congress,& we'll 
>>chose our own president by our own.
>
>     What is "Taiwanese"?  They declared Independence? Not yet?
>     Does this guy know what he is talking about? He's got drunk?
>
>     If you're not in good mood, try to work on a girl.

  Though you think you have worked on a girl, but your mood clearly tells
  that the work has failed.

-ping
From: viczhu@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (yi zhu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: none
Date: 30 Dec 92 10:02:31 GMT
Reply-To: viczhu@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (yi zhu)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: viczhu@happy.cc.utexas.edu


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From: tang@kawa.ssl.fujitsu.co.jp (liyue tang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: test
Date: 24 Dec 92 01:51:01 GMT
	<1992Dec9.082408.2447@u.washington.edu> <BzIp71.15y@acsu.buffalo.edu>
	<1992Dec23.052453.14023@u.washington.edu>
Organization: FUJITSU SOCIAL SCIENCE LABORATORY LIMITED, JAPAN.
In-reply-to: seb@stein.u.washington.edu's message of 23 Dec 92 05:24:53 GMT


 just a test , ignore it, please!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: ping@bnlux1.bnl.gov (Shiping Zhang)
Subject: Re: A situation puzzle
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:13:04 GMT

In article <102781@netnews.upenn.edu> hxie@dps91a.cis.upenn.edu writes:
>A situation puzzle:
>
>A man lives on the twelfth floor of an apartment building.  Every morning 
>he takes the elevator down to the lobby and leaves the building.  In the 
>evening, he gets into the elevator, and, if there is someone else in the 
>elevator -- or if it was raining that day -- he goes back to his floor 
>directly.  However, if there is nobody else in the elevator and it hasn't 
>rained, he goes to the 10th floor and walks up two flights of stairs to 
>his room.  Explain why.
>

  The man is short.

-ping

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
From: utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan)
Subject: Re: World Journal
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:09:36 GMT

In article <ljcai7INNoh6@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin) writes:
>
>
......

>Though the owner is a KMT, the WJ apparently has no dedication to KMT. Though
>it is emphasized on Taiwan news, it is not a pro-KMT newspaper in general.
>
The editorial comments are KMT's voice, otherwise it is readable.

Tingli Pan

......
From: haiying@cs.mcgill.ca (Haiying ZHANG)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: TOEFL/TSE, GRE Physics score canceled for China's October test
Date: 22 Dec 92 04:13:29 GMT
Organization: SOCS - McGill University, Montreal, Canada


   The following is a forward without permission from NAFSA mailing
list. Standard net disclaimer applies.

------------------------- Forward Begins ---------------------------

Dear Colleagues:

        Because of serious breaches in test security in the People's
Republic of China, the Graduate Record Examination (GRE) program and
the Test of English as a Foreign Language (TOEFL) program have found
it necessary to cancel the GRE Physics and the TOEFL/TSE test scores
of all candidates tested in the PRC in October.  The scores from
these test administrations in China will not be released.  The
decision to cancel scores for the entire People's Republic of China
was based on the results of detailed analyses of examinee performance
and other information.

        We realize that many will be inconvenienced by this action.
It is our intent to retest these candidates at future dates.  The TOEFL
program, in cooperation with  the China International Examinations
Coordination Bureau (CIECB) in Beijing, is working to establish a
retest administration as early as possible.  This free retest will
be open to all those who appeared for the October 24 TOEFL.  All
examinees in China whose GRE Physics scores were canceled will be
given a test fee voucher to take the GRE Physics test free of charge
at the April, 1993 administration.

        Educational Testing Service (ETS) reserves the right to cancel
scores for tests it administers whenever there is substantial basis
for questioning the validity of test scores.  Although we recognize
that not all examinees at the test centers in question were involved,
ETS has decided to cancel the scores of all examinees in China in
order to ensure the valildity of all GRE and TOEFL scores and the
fair treatment of all examinees.  It is ETS policy to do so when
individuals with questionable scores may be indistiguishable from
others whose scores are valid.

                                        Sincerely,


                Charlotte V. Kuh                Russell Webster
                Executive Director              Executive Director
                Graduate Record                 International Testing
                 Examination Program            and Training Programs
                                                bitnet:  AMM5501@Rosedale
From: An-Ly Yao <anlyyao@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Date: 02 Jan 93 03:29 PST
Subject: Hints on moving to Shanghai?
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1472500018:000:1806
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!anlyyao    Jan  2 03:29:00 1993


------------------------------------------------------------------------------
fm: Goetz Kluge, anlyyao@igc.apc.org (my wife's EcoNet account)
re: Residency of wife from Taiwan of German expatriate in PR China
    and other Questions on moving to Shanghai
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
 
Probably in April 1993 my wife and I want to move to the PR China. I intend
to work there for a German company to give technical support to Chinese
customers.
 
 
--- Residency of Taiwanese in China ---
I am German, my wife is from Taiwan. To my knowledge we can move to China
together, but she will have to renew her "Taiwan Residency Paper for Travelling
in China" all 3 month in Hongkong or Seoul. Any more info or experiance
available?
 
--- Taiwanese Scientists in China ---
My wife worked as an Entomologist (biological pest control) in Florida (Ph.D.)
and Taiwan. Can Chinese from Taiwan do research in that field (i.e. in an
Chinese research institute), or is there still too much red tape?
 
--- Customs Inspection in China ---
Any experience (as I had in Korea) with equipment, that had been damaged
during customs inspection (i.e. damages, which obviously only could have
occured outside of the packing container)? Will my PC survive?
 
--- Info about living conditions in Shanghai ---
I must admit, that in the US much better information about living conditions
abroad are available than in Germany. Is there an American chamber of trade
in Shanghai, where (as. i.e. in Korea) an overview on this topic can be
purchased? I've been in Shanghai, but some data would be nice for negotiating
with my employer :-)
 
 
Just trying (perhaps someoune in soc.culture.ch already could collect some
experience in these matters),
 
  Goetz Kluge
 
Seoul 1993/01/02
 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li)
Subject: Re: Gi Gong:  scienceor religion?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 20:43:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.143417.4203@vax.cns.muskingum.edu> jfeng@vax.cns.muskingum.edu writes:
>
>**** I am very uncomfortable with the notion that Yan's Gi Gong is science.  To
>me, Gi Gong demonstrated by Mater Yan is becoming more of religion than of
>science.  Yan's Gi Gong is more mental than material, more psychological than
>physiological, more mysterious than truthful, more religious than scientific. 
>If Yan and his disciples believe what Gi Gong, Yan's Gi Gong rather can do
>against all odds, that's fine.  But if he is trying to persuade people to
>blindly believe in him in the name of science, it offends me and I think it is
>an insult to our intelligence.  If we think Yan's Gi Gong as a kind of
>religion, let's leave it alone and not make a big fuss over it.  

That is exactly what I want to say. If he claims that it is a religion
or whatever he wants to call, leave him alone. No one cares what he says.
But he claims that it is a science, it makes me very much insulted.
His lecture was full of political garbage, bragging and irresponsible
citation of some known names. But no data, no derivation, no convicing
results and no scientific analysis. Not to mention the references, his
and others.

He is very much like a man from dark ages. Science is cool, but science
is science. Science is to brighten, not to confuse the human society.
From: ycao+@pitt.edu (Yousheng Cao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Watching CCTV in North America
Date: 28 Dec 92 22:20:55 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

After a period of testing broadcasting,CCTV will brodcast its Chinese TV 
program via K2 satellite Ku band starting from December 28th(Monday),1992.
Broadcast time is currently one hour, at EastTime 7-8p.m..
The projecting total broadcasting time per day will be 12 hours.  
If you have a 3ft Ku band dish and you are wtaching NorthAme Chinese TV now, 
just turn on your receiver one hour early at the same channel NorthAme Chinese 
TV used. If you have a 4ft or 5ft C-band Dish, turn your dish to Space Net 1
channel 24. Broadcast schedual on C-band is at EastTime 2-3p.m.. If you
are a college student, contact to your foreign student office to see if
your university has a satellite Scola Program(more than 6000 colleges and
schools have the program receiving facilities). All above equipments can
be purchased from Hannah & Hanson, Inc. (412)621-4214.
 

The new CCTV in US is called New Century Chinese TV which is found by
3C Group(Three last names starting with C). Meantimes, New York Chinese TV,
and World TV, San Francisco "Hua Sheng", LA Panda, Canada "Guo Tai" and
Chineses TV, Chicago Public Channel 23 will rebrodcast CCTV 3C program. Please
contact your local Chinese TV station to get schedual.
From: hefa@ERE.UMontreal.CA (He Fangliang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Looking for Ms. Xie Lin-Hong.
Date: 23 Dec 92 22:24:55 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Hello, 

If there is anyone who knows Ms. Xie Lin-Hong (or Xie Li-Hong) or
her husband please forward this information to them.
Ms. Xie came to the USA for family reunion in 1990. She is from
Zhejiang province. She had studied in the Department of Chemistry
of HangZhou University for Bach and Master (1979-1990).
Unfortunately, blind information for her husband.
Thanks a lot.
Fangliang He
Phone: (514)-343-3957 (home)
       (514)-343-6111-1233 (ext.) (lab)
E-mail: hefa@ere.umontreal.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini)
Subject: ascii Chinese fonts
Organization: Unocal Corporation
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 16:54:15 GMT


Is there a public domain utility that people are using to add Chinese
characters to their messages?
I could probably hack up something from the 16x16 XWindows GuoBiao font.
But if something is already out there, fangbian fangbian.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:33385 soc.culture.taiwan:16469
From: stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: World Journal
Date: 22 Dec 1992 18:41:27 GMT
Organization: Sun
NNTP-Posting-Host: stevelin

In article <Bzo240.761@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan) writes:
>>
>>Though the owner is a KMT, the WJ apparently has no dedication to KMT. Though
>>it is emphasized on Taiwan news, it is not a pro-KMT newspaper in general.
>>
>The editorial comments are KMT's voice, otherwise it is readable.
>
I really don't think so. There are more and more editorial comments severly
criticing KMT and Lee Deng-Hui, if folks ever pay attention on it.
I do feel that the editorial position is on the same line of overseas Chinese
organization, Sin-Chong Hui. Of course, they have no way to support CCP.
From: tcheung@ramius.ocf.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: illegal_immigration
Date: 27 Dec 92 22:13:32 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Organization: University of California, Davis / LLNL

In article <Bzwouv.Ixr@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> achen@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Ah_Q) writes:
->Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
->Mime-Version: 1.0
->X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL13]
->Content-Length: 340
->
->Last week about 180 Chinese were found in a ship
->off the west coast trying to get into America.
->
->It was said that they paid $30,000 each to get
->a chance to sneak into America.  I don't see how
->they would be able to accumulate $30,000 if they
->are from China.
->
->Is there any news on the fate of these people?
->Are they allowed to stay here?

All these people (except four tenagers) are currently placed in Santa
Rita Jail in Alameda County, California.  I supposed the Chinese News
on channel 26 in the Bay Area constantly has updated information on them.

Immigration lawyers in SF are trying to apply for political asylum for
them but it was said to be a long shot since most of them are here for
economical reasons (they were poor farmers from places outside FuZhou,
Fujian).  And the legal process is a long one.

--
Terry Cheung
tcheung@ramius.ocf.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: bihkyan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Yang Yuanxin)
Subject: Re: Newwer China
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 22:46:57 GMT

In article <9212301920.AA21214@gandalf.gso.uri.edu_> cayula@gandalf.gso.uri.edu (Jean-Francois Cayula) writes:
>In article <1992Dec29.203145.13153@topaz.ucq.edu.au> you write:
>|> 1. About one week ago, Chinese government ordered the French consulate in
>|>    Guangzhou to be closed, responding France selling 50 fighters to Taiwan.
>|>           
>|>       -- I thought:"Right! But no enough!"
>|> 
>|>    Today I learned that Guangzhou mayor Li Ziliu had told the French that 
>|>    they would not been offered a chance to take the contract of $billions
>|>    Guangzhou subway project, according to instructions from CG.
>|> 
>|>       -- I feel better now.
>
      Me too.

>Chinese leaders have tried for some time to bring foreign investments to 
>China. They have also tried to appease the people in Hong Kong (Xiang
>Gang) by proclaiming their attachment to economic freedom in that region 
>(with Guang Dong Sheng as an example). But at the first chance they get, 
>they interfere with business matters just to follow some old and obsolete 
>policies. One has to wonder, do you still feel good? Oh I also forgot,
>Franco-Chinese trade shows a $2 billion/year deficit... in favor of
>China... Should France save that  $2 billion/year? I don't think so...

     Remember, it's not a matter of money on the Chinese side. and $2B
 is too little to consider for a nation with 10B people.

     I can understand, in most situations, Chinese and French can not
 understand each other, too much differences in these two groups of
 people/culture....in WWII, Chinese fought 8 years bloody battle with
 wooden sticks and knifes and rocks agains the invading modern Japanese
 army, while the French surrendered to German in days.... just one 
 example.

     I'm very sure, on the issur of HongKong and France, the Chinese
 government  have the support of most, if not all Chinese.A
     American have a treaty with Taiwan, and F-16 is out of date, but
 how about the French, it recognize the PRC as the only Government of
 China including Taiwan province, but it sells  most advanced weapons
 to one of it's province, what's more, the weapons' only target is
 the reat of the PRC. 

    Just think about it! Do you still thing the French is doing anything
 right? it's really a shame. what kind of people would do anything only
 for money? (I did see a lot of this kind of people in certral Paris,I 
 was really surprised) 


>Anyway since it's that time of year, I wish all a happy New Year,
>zhu4 da3jia1 xin1nian2 yu2kuai4, bonne nouvelle annee!
  Happy new year! Xin nian hao! bonne nouvelle annee.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: Hus Fu and the Japanese
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 21:16:37 GMT

When we discuss who is originated from whom we got to be careful. We do not
want to
sound like we are looking for self-congradulation from being the "orininal"
of some body else. Japanese people had ECONOMIC(only) seccess, looks like
every with two legs and without wings are trying to relate themselve with
the Japanese. From Sri Lankans, Koreans, Fins, to Chinese.
Stop those falk tale quality reasoning to prove japanese's originality.
From: yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Wei Qi News
Date: 23 Dec 92 13:55:37 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Chinese ming2 ren2 Ma xiaochun has defeated Japanese counterpart
(Meijin) Xiao3 lin2 guang1 yi1 by score of 2-1. 

All three games are won by white.

-- 
//Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh //Go your way, be happy.
From: dtwei@acsu.buffalo.edu (Danielle T Wei)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Negroes
Date: 28 Dec 92 00:07:37 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Dec27.204515.8495@cs.brown.edu> ylq@lems23lems.brown.edu (Yan Shen) writes:
>In article <1992Dec27.171529.24739@fuug.fi>, an3879@anon.penet.fi writes:
>|> 
>|> I have noticed this difference among Chinese too.  It seems 
>|> like that the Chinese from the more civilized part of China
>|> seem to have narrower noses whereas the Chinese from the
>|> less developed part of China seem to have large flat noses
>|> with huge round nostrils similiar to that of the Negroes.
>|> 
>|> Also have you noticed that all of the movie stars from Hong
>|> Kong, Taiwan, and Japan seem to have small narrow noses.  This
>|> could only mean that civilized society as a whole subconciously
>|> believes that large flat noses with huge round nostrils are 
>|> ugly and are associated with lower forms of life and gorrilas.
>|> 
>
>Wow !!!
>You must have a huge, huge flat noses with gigantic round nostrils.

Ignore that kid who thinks he's being cute.
Its because of people like him that there are so few anonymous-posting
servers out there.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:05:58 EST
From: <JXL124@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: A not-so-fun question

In article <9211237251.AA72513@ccmail.uoregon.edu>, Tuya@ccmail.uoregon.edu
(Tuya) says:


>          There are M objects of various sizes (ti3 ji1).

>          There is a bag which can hold more than 0 but fewer than M
>          of these objects.

>          Can you give a method to decide which of these M objects
>          should be put into the bag so the total volume of the
>          objects put into the bag is maximized?

You might want to tell us what size and what material is the bag.  We couldn't
have put a water melon in your pocket.  You see, the problem is, given that
assumption, we'd still need to know how big your pocket is. 8-(
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: mliu@pt.com (Fred Liu)
Subject: Life in this United States of America (3)
Organization: Performance Technologies, Incorporated
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:41:26 GMT


You would be very excited if somebody told you that you
just won a $100,000 prize or something like that.  The
annual American's Family Publisher's Clearing House
sweepstakes is one of the examples.  I think the AFP
just uses appealing words to let you believe that you
are going to win.  It doesn't say that you have won.
Usually if you read through all the fliers, you will
know that you have to order some magazine from them and
enter the sweepstakes drawing.  You are not guaranteed
to win anything.  It's a serious bussiness, just like
buying lottery.

There is another kind of sweepstakes, you may not be
able to reconize its tricks.  I received a post card
saying that I was guaranteed to win one of the prizes.
The prizes are $100,000 cash, a car, a audio system,
or a round trip to Florida.  I used to receive a lot
of this kind of card after I got my credit card.  I
just threw them into the garbage can.  But this one
looked very attractive.  I must tell you that I was
stupid enough to call the 800 number on the card.
The first thing the lady on the phone did was to ask
my credit card number.  I asked her why she needed
a credit card number, she told me that I had to buy
a 3D camera (some of you may have known that, it
sells for less than $200) and then they will send
me the prize.  She even asked me what color do I
want for the car.  She charged me $495 on the credit
card.  A few days later, I received a big box.  There
was the 3D camera and some cosmetic things.  I began
to realize that I was ripped off.  So I called them
to ask to return the whole thing and get my money
back.  I was lucky that I returned the box and they
send me back a check of $495.

They could probably keep their promise written on
the post card.  What I would get would be just a
round trip to Florida.  But it would be really my
own money.  A round trip to Florida would cost
less than $200.  For those marketing companies,
they get get that as cheap as $100 or so.

Don't believe in any such kind of post cards, no
matter how attractive it is.  You will be ripped
off if you respond to them.

-- 
Fred Liu, Performance Technologies Incorporated		mliu@pt.com
315 Science Parkway, Rochester, New York 14620		uupsi!ptsys1!mliu