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From: mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green)
Subject: Re: OS/2 Wish List
Reply-To: mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green)
Organization: Columbia University, New York
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:48:51 GMT

In article <RUB.93Jan24173507@solarium.aero.org> rub@aero.org (Jerzy W. Rub) writes:
>How about:
>
>10.  An option (a switch) to allow making windows active WITHOUT bringing
>them into focus (that is, without redrawing the entire window)?  Often
>seeing just a part of the active window is all I need.

Yes!  A csh/ksh style bg option for PM progs :-)
Actually, it would be even better to unify the DOS and OS/2 background
exectution option (ie some DOS settings are more flexible than OS2 program
settings).  How about a priority option which lets you set all the priorities
to anything for any program...maybe from ^ESC or a pspm type thing.

>11.  A shutdown with just one prompt.  I am looking for a way to avoid
>getting prompts from all the running applications and telling each one that
>yes, I want its window closed.  Or perhaps there is a way to do this and I
>should read manuals?

Yes!
A list of running programs and *one* prompt to kill all of them and shutdown.
This is similar to a delete file-list type thing (Are you sure you want to
delete: A,B,C,D,E,...?!).

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: pvonk@scott.skidmore.edu (Pierre VonKaenel)
Subject: Re: Rumor: IBM out of hardware business????
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY, 12866
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 14:39:53 GMT


I seem to recall a Wall St. Journal article covering IBM's woes and
stating that it would move into software and drop hardware.  I think
it was only speculation on the part of the author.  Don't you just
love it when reporters *make* the news.  Guess they don't teach
"finding the news" in college anymore.

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: 2.1 bugs, suggestions. (was Re: 2.1b bug and editorial comment on killing processes)
From: gershon@husc11.harvard.edu (Ethan Gershon)
Date: 23 Jan 93 21:22:27 GMT

Anohter thing the scroll bars need is buttons for *both* directions at
*both* ends of the scroll bar...
                                                  --Ethan Gershon
                                                    gershon@husc.harvard.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: keiths@cae.wisc.edu (Keith Scidmore)
Subject: KBD01.SYS not found.
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin--Madison
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:46:51 CST

O.K. I've spent a full day now trying to install 2.1b.  The first six
disk go fine.  Machine says to hit return to boot from the HD.  The
machine rumbles for a bit then says it can't find KBD01.SYS and locks
up solid.  I run an Ultrastor 34F on a with a 530MB Maxtor SCSI-2 FAST
drive as the only device.  I installed the patch for SCSI devices by
copying the stated file to disk 1.  I have had no trouble with 2.0 but
I can't boot off my HD with 2.1b.  I can boot off the floppies and 
everything looks great.  KBD01.SYS is exactly where it should be.  

Any ideas anyone?

Has anyone out there run 2.1b off of the Ultrastor 34F?

Thanks in advance.

Keith R. Scidmore
Keiths@cae.wisc.edu
From: hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: HELP: Need copy of Selective Uninstall
Date: 24 Jan 93 18:57:05 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

brent@cco.caltech.edu (Brent R. Eubanks) writes:
>I read something in the help files about a Selective Uninstall,
>something that lets you remove apps that you installed.  However, I
>don't seem to have a copy of it.  I installed all of the OS/2 applets,
>but I want to dump most of them because they suck.  Could someone
>direct me towards a copy of this application?

It is on the Service Pack, and presumably the new beta. It is only
automagically installed on PS/2's, I think. You can manually unpack
it; I don't remember the disk #'s, but probably 7 and 8-ish for the
exe and the hlp files. Unpack both to \os2, and try it out. Basically
it undoes whatever Selective Install does, so you can get an idea of
what it can and can't do from there.
-- 
Tom Hatton
hatton@cgl.ucsf.edu
(415)-476-8693
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jst50986@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jack S. Tan)
Subject: Re: 'Unhandled exception'?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:07:02 GMT
Keywords: unhandled exception, error

jst50986@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jack S. Tan) writes:

> This past weekend, I received an error message which I've never seen before.
> It looks like this:
>
>     UNHANDLED EXCEPTION 0D at 085F:0048 Error code: 0000

This was under GA+SP.

-- 

Jack Tan                             If your parents didn't have kids,
jahk@uiuc.edu                          chances are you won't either.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: hankedr@mail.auburn.edu (Darrel Hankerson)
Subject: Re: PMfax / OS/2 2.1b
Organization: Auburn University, Alabama
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 03:38:49 GMT

In article <1k25bgINNpsc@netsun.cl.msu.edu> ignasiak@netsun..cl.msu.edu (Todd Ignasiak) writes:
>I am a registered user of OS/2 2.0,  and I have a Supra V32bis Fax/Modem.
>I don't really want to install the 2.1 Beta,  I'm just going to wait for
>the complete version.   But, I would like to try the new fax applet.
>And instead of wading through all the disks to find this app,  could
>someone please just zip up the needed files and upload it somewhere.

Say...Is your address ok?  What's with the extra period?

The fax stuff is a number of files and DLLs. Will this work?  I might be
willing to do this if you promise to report back to the net with your
results :) Please note, however that I know little about the fax applet. I
did play with the "emulated" modem and did create some faxes (I don't have
a fax modem).

Send email. --Darrel Hankerson hankedr@mail.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: calica@cae.wisc.edu (Carlo James Calica)
Subject: SBMMPM/2
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin--Madison
Distribution: usa
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:09:26 CST

Help!  I can't get my SoundBlaster to work with OS2.  Works great under DOS but
not OS/2.  First off I can't get the dos drivers to work.  Won't even install.
Also the test program won't work.  Says I have a DMA channel 1 conflict.  All
I have in my system is the SB, SVGA card, modem, IDE/IO card.  No obvious
conflicts there either.  It also won't work undem MMPM/2.  I'm getting to the
point of selling the SoundBlaster.  I bought it because I thought it was
compatible!  Thanks for any help granted.

-- 
/-------------------------------+----------------------------------\
| Carlo J. Calica		| Major: Engineering Mechanic	   |
|     calica@cae.wisc.edu	|                                  |
\ University of Wisconsin	| Fan of Rush Limbaugh	           /
From: grahamt@phantom.gatech.edu (Graham E. Thomas)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Trident Video Drivers Needed
Date: 28 Jan 1993 08:23:53 -0500
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
NNTP-Posting-Host: oit.gatech.edu

Could someone please tell me, from beginning to end, how I can get 800 x
600 resolution with my Trident 8900c video card? I need to know what
video driver(s) I need, where I can get them, and how I install them.

I've tried on my own putting together various bits of information but
I have had no success whatsoever, so any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
-- 
Graham E. Thomas
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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From: grichard@cis.ohio-state.edu (Golden Richard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: WINOS/2 session settings disappeared?
Date: 25 Jan 1993 18:05:22 -0500
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: swimming.cis.ohio-state.edu


I've been using 2.1beta for about 2 weeks and this is the first major
problem I've run into:

I have a program object icon on my desktop for Amipro.  When I double
clicked on it today (it was working yesterday and previously), I got
an error message.  I opened the settings for the Amipro object and
under Session, DOS WINDOW was selected.  The WINOS/2 window and full
screen radio buttons were dark (unavailable)!  I checked my WINOS/2
full screen object under command prompts and it also had the WINOS/2
radio buttons disabled.  I haven't done anything since yesterday (when
all was well) that would obviously have caused these problems.   


Note that my installation of 2.1b was done after a reformat.  Any ideas?
-- 
Golden Richard III             OSU Dept. of Computer and Information Science
grichard@cis.ohio-state.edu                                   (614) 292-0056
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: papresco@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod)
Subject: Re: Why are os/2 manuals so usless?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 06:07:30 GMT

>I agree that the documentation falls short of being supportive, but (he says,
>dogding the anti-greeny abuse and cleverly putting his flame retardant to good
>use) I don't think paper manuals are the way to go. Let's face it - with the 
>amount of text which would be required to document the OS well, we'd all have
>gargantuan sets of manuals like those Dec provides (and only then for an
>outrageous fee !)

I am ok with the idea of online manuals.  I just think that the OS/2
ones suck rocks.  They do not form a proper hierarchy, the window is
too small, the "index" search feature is retarded.  REXX is similarly
poorly documented.  And sometimes there are factual errors!

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Rumor: IBM out of hardware business????
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:46:15 GMT

In article <1jpjabINNlsh@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong) writes:
>There has been a rumor around this here part that IBM made an official
>announcement on Fidonet that they are dropping out of the hardware
>business. I don't have Fidonet access and can't confirm this. Anyone
>have such access and seen this announcement out there??  No more PS/1,
>PS/2? The end of their clone line only fater being out for a couple of
>months? Any clarifications? IBM, are you out there reading Usenet?

Sorry -- the rumor is false.

The PS/1s, ThinkPads, and ValuePoints are all wildly successful, and
PS/2 sales have held steady (meaning the new lines haven't come at the
expense of the premium systems).

-- 
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Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
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From: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael D Kretzer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: Writting Device Drivers
Date: 22 Jan 1993 19:12:13 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

From article <C19pML.n3r@ais.org>, by paul@ais.org (Paul Vargo):
> Has anyone bought the disks that can be purchased from
> Steven J. Mastrianni's "Writting OS/2 2.0 Device Drivers in C" 
> book?  Is this code available by ftp?

I have purchased the libraries.  The book is not very useful
UNLESS you have the libraries.  No, the code is not available
by ftp (except the companion disk, which is code that requires
the libraries).

The libraries are excellent, and they save a lot of time that you
would have to spent writing C-callable DevHlp routines and 
re-writing C library routines so they will work with device drivers
(a lot of the C library routines won't work in a device driver).

I have no connection with VNR Publishing or Mastrianni besides
being a satisfied customer...
From: mhuth@hardy.u.washington.edu (Mark Huth)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Gotta have speed, more speed
Date: 28 Jan 1993 15:43:20 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu

OK, I've placed os/2 (GA + SP) on my secretaries 486/33 (8 megs, 200meg HD,
and speedstar video).  She's been complaining that the machine is horribly
slow, prints very slowly (HPLJIII).  Ya know, she's correct.  So, I made all
the changes in the FAQ, disk has 120megs free, swap file seems to be set 
correctly.  Machine seems to swap constantly, if she switches from a windows
app back to the desktop the swap can take 30 seconds.  As to printing, she's
correct as well.  It takes 1.5-2 minutes to print the first page of a document.
(Laserjet has 5 megs of memory).  I've made the changes in the FAQ here as well.
Anyone with any thoughts?  (The machine runs as though it has only 4 megs of 
memory!)
From: pickrell@hoss.unl.edu (Andrew Pickrell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Feb 2.1 beta availability???
Date: 25 Jan 1993 17:58:39 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hoss.unl.edu
Summary: How will the Feb 2.1 beta be available?
Keywords: os/2, 2.1, beta,february

I am interested in how the second beta will be distributed.  I purchased
the first on cd and would be interested in an incrimental update like
the service pack.  Since there are no real patches to speak of, wouldn't
an incrimental update be only a couple of disks?  Maybe even do it with
patches to files and make it really small.

This would save the hobbes from buckiling under another 40 meg download
party.

Just an idea to those listening...

--
==============================================================================
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UNL Dept. of Chemical Engineering| material. If you are illegally using them,
EMail :pickrell@hoss.unl.edu     | prepare to be sued. ;)
From: kitchin@lf.hp.com (Bruce Kitchin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Must I have to reformat to install the new OS/2 2.1 beta
Date: 25 Jan 1993 22:10:02 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard Santa Clara Site
NNTP-Posting-Host: eden.avo.hp.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.2 PL7]

Doug Azzarito (azzarito@cse.fau.edu) wrote:
: In article <81692@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt0040a@prism.gatech.EDU (Tom Sorensen) writes:
: >Question- I'll gladly format and reinstall, but how can I keep my GA+SP desktop?
: >I've got WPSBackup but is it safe to restore the 2.0 desktop (w/ INI files)
: >over the 2.1 one? I really don't want to deal with going through all the
: >customization again.
: 
: If you want to keep your existing setup, then don't re-format.  IBM is
: testing installation over 2.0.  I have done it on several machines with good
: results.

You take your choice and pay your price.  I did it on three machines and
3 of 3 worked very weird from odd things to total failure.  No data
loss however (it didn't lose anything I had had on my disk, some
failures resulted in loss of what I was doing at the time).  I also
tried to do it with a reformat and restore using wpsbck procedures.
Also real weird results.  The problem there seemed to be that it was
overwriting what 2.1 had installed for the desktop including all of the
templates.  My programs didn't seem to recognize Win 3.1 after I did
the wpsrest.cmd.  Oh well, as usual with betas, milage may vary.
From: bdubbs@cs.tamu.edu (Bruce Dubbs)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Is OS/2 a dead end?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 16:40:43 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
NNTP-Posting-Host: neuron.tamu.edu
Keywords: So quoth Bill Gates

In article <djg2.727715667@crux1.cit.cornell.edu> djg2@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (David J. Greenberger) writes:
|tcscs!zeta@src.honeywell.com (Gregory Youngblood) writes:
|
|>or so.  With OS/2, when it reboots, particularly after a crash or unexpected
|>shutdown, it takes upwards of 5 to 30 minutes depending on your hard drive
|>size and configuration.  One time of that happening and your average computer
|>user is going to be disoriented.
|
|Upwards of 5 to 30 minutes?!  How much RAM do you have?  I have 16 MB on a
|486/33, and it *never* takes more than one or two minutes for OS/2 to boot up.


Sounds like a reboot without doing a shutdown to me.  The system is
doing a CHKDSK on all hard drives.  I've had OS/2 2.0 on my system
since last May, and I can count on one hand the number of times my
system has done a CHKDSK on bootup -- and I reboot every day.  
   -- Bruce


--
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                              |  Scrupulous Lawyer
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: HELP! OS/2 no-go after board upgrade
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:01:30 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1993Jan25.193345.1@vax1.umkc.edu> slee@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
>I just upgraded my motherboard from a AMI 386SX-35 to a AMI 486DX-33, and have
>not been able to get OS/2 to boot since the swap. I think it's some kind of
>protected mode error, but being your average uninformed bonehead, I can only
>guess.  The OS/2 error message gives a TRAP 0002 error, saying there is an
>internal processing error at:
>	##0160:fff6453f - 000d:a53f
>	60000,9084
>What this garbage means is beyond me...
>The reason I seem to think it is some kind of prot. mode error is the failure
>of the system to boot under DOS with QEMM in the config. It also gives some
>kind of error, asks to (T)erminate or (R)eboot, then locks up.  EMM386.EXE in
>DOS works fine, tho. Should I change any of the BIOS setting to facilitate
>installation of OS/2, which I tried to reinstall w/out luck so far (it locks up
>with the same error after disk 10 or so).
>Any of you gurus have any ideas? Sipples, I'm waiting to hear from you <G>.

Well, hello.  :-)

It's in the FAQ List (of course).  :-)  "TRAP 0002" means bad RAM --
the RAM is probably too slow for your system.  Increase the wait
states in the setup, precharge cycles, etc., and see if that clears up
the problem.

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From: paulg@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul A Gunderson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Adaptec 1742 driver help needed
Date: 28 Jan 1993 22:37:35 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4


The Adaptec 1742 drivers on Hobbes have a later date than those supplied
with the GA release.

1.	Are they better drivers?  Will I notice a difference?
2.	How do I go about installing them?  A simple change in the
config.sys?

***

Is there a way to increase the hard disk cache?  My system has 16MB RAM and
still hits the HD more than I like.  Admittedly, this is when I am running
Paradox 4.0, WordPerfect 5.1 and Darklands.  The last is the culprit, I
think.  When inspecting a group of characters, Darklands seems to hit the
disk a lot.  When I was still using DOS, I upped my PCTools cache and
stopped this.


I have ben happily *using* OS/2 for four or five months without problems.

----
Paul Gunderson
paulg@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
From: enk2@po.cwru.edu (Erik Kovach)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Why am I getting a startup.cmd window?
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 03:46:02 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62711.student.cwru.edu

In article <93021.122713DGRAHAM@HARPERVM.BITNET> <DGRAHAM@HARPERVM.BITNET> writes:
>When I enter OS/2 upon starting the computer the first thing that pops up
>is a window titled startup.cmd. OS/2 is obviously running startup.cmd and
>opening a window for it, and I have no idea why. I have the clock in the
>startup.cmd folder so that the clock comes up all the time, but when I close
>this new window the clock doesn't show up. Any way to get OS/2 to just run
>the applications that are in the startup.cmd folder like it use to for me
>instaed of having this window open? I am not sure what I did to change it to
>make this happen, but something did.

I think that you are confusing the Startup folder with the STARTUP.CMD 
file.  The Startup folder contains OBJECTS to be started up at startup 
time.  The STARTUP.CMD file is like an AUTOEXEC.BAT file for OS/2, and it 
loads programs, runs programs, and starts sessions.  The file is located on 
the main directory of your OS/2 drive, and is usually created by installing 
OS/2 software that needs to spawn a process at the beginning of booting
OS/2 (like the TCP/IP software).

Basiclly, to trash the startup.cmd window, trash the STARTUP.CMD file, or, 
if the information in the STARTUP.CMD file is necessary and you just want 
the annoying STARTUP.CMD window to go away, add the word 'exit' to the last 
line of the file with a text editor.
From: bdubbs@cs.tamu.edu (Bruce Dubbs)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: 2.1b: Scrolling in CLI slooow ...
Date: 26 Jan 1993 04:18:47 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
NNTP-Posting-Host: solar.tamu.edu

In article <93021.115710RONY@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at> FLATSCHER Rony <RONY@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at> writes:
|Scrolling in command-line-windows being it DOS or OS/2 windows is
|still ***unacceptably*** slow (on a 486 25/50 MHz).

Hmm. How fast do you want it to go?  I just did a quick test and got
about 20 lines/sec.  Too fast to read certainly, but I can just barely
tell whats scrolling by at that speed.  Faster scrolling would be
detrimental.  Now this doesn't mean paging.  I used the GNU cat *.c
command to check it out in my other window.

I'm using the standard VGA drivers on GA+SP.  I did try the 800x600
mode for my ET4000 based card and found it too slow, but I'll use VGA
until I get a new 17" monitor.  (Actually, I'm waiting for the XGA-2
cards for ISA to come down a bit in price too.)
   -- Bruce


--
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                              |  Scrupulous Lawyer