From: oueichek@ngulu (Ibaa Oueichek)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: BILL CLINTON ON ISRAEL AND THE MIDDLE
Date: 19 Aug 92 09:01:57 GMT
Organization: IMAG, University of Grenoble, France
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horen@rs.com (Jonathan B. Horen) writes:
: In article 26710@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM, nabil@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Nabil Idriss) writes:
: >>
: >>
: 
: >>
: >>    o Denied Israel's request for humanitarian assistance in
: >>      resettling Russian Jews, and
: >>
: >     * The United States have always helped Israel to resettle
: >       Jews in Israel. Recently the Loan guarantees have been
: >       approved.
: 
: Resettle Jews in Israel because of a history of annihilation
: in every other country in which we settled (and for the last 44 years
: the Arabs have been dedicated to the "final solution" of annihilating 
: us there, too). And the Loan Guarantees have been approved because
: Israel agreed-to and stopped-building new settlements.

  Excuse-me (this is not provokation, but a serious question) :
  How durable is this decision ?. i.e, did Israel issue a law against building
  new settlements ? (and i think it didn't concerne ALL sttlements, but i'll
  be more than happy if i'm wrong). Or is it a "verbal" decision which can be
  reversed at any moment ?.

: 
: >>    o Eroded Israel's security needs by selling billions of
: >>      dollars in sophisticated weaponry to Israel's Arab neighbors.
: >>
: >     * If the United States does not sell weapons to allies like 
: >       Saudi Arabia then Britian will and the United States will
: >       loose billions of dollars. After all they are allies and
: >       they boost the economy of the Western world by lowering
: >       the price of oil. 
: 
: Where do you buy *your* gasoline? I pay $1.25/gallon, up from $0.98
: last September.

  This argument is meaningless. The $US value has decreased about %25 since
last September, compared to the French currency (6.35 FF at Sept, 4.94 FF
now). Given that in France we have only 2-3% of inflation rate, that means
that the French currency has almost conserved its value, while the American
one has decreased. And that also means that Oil producers have lost money,
(it's a fact that a lower $US value means a loss of money for most of exporters
towards the US). There has already been a discussion among OPEC countries that
another currency than the $US (for stability reasons) should be used to
evaluate oil prices.
: 
: [...]
: >>
: >>Palestinian State.  The Palestinians should have the right -- as specified in
: >>the Camp David Accord -- to participate in the determination of their future.
: >>But they do no have the right to determine Israel's future.  For that reason,
: >>Bill Clinton opposes the creation of an independent Palestinian state.
: >>
: >
: >Did he really say that? I have never heard it. Why the Palestinians have no right
: >and Israel have right?
: 
: Because Jordan=Palestine.

  Palestinians OWN the land where they live, they OWNED most of YOUR ISRAEL
  before 48. Palestine is Palestine, and Palestinians are going to have their
  right, you like it or not. You may shout  Jordan=Palestine all the day (the
  same as Mutlu shouting "Armenians killed 2.5 Turks in cold blood") it doesn't
  make it true.

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