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From: pkim@gagme.chi.il.us (Peter Kim)
Subject: vmstat, tprof, and etc.
Originator: @gagme
Keywords: performance, profiling
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 05:52:02 GMT

I have been running vmstat and tprof to determine how to improve
the performance of a X/Motif based application. Vmstat showed me
the paging space usage and tprof showed me which section of code
to look into to improve the CPU related performance. 

What I want to know is how much text, data, heap, and stack spaces
my application is using. Can I measure these things? Are there
other tools for these?

Thanks.
Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Tuesday, 26 Jan 1993 10:32:45 EST
From: Ron Wigmore <SYST8103@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: Re. AIX Function Equivalent To VM's "RETRIEVE" Function Re: AIX Fu

In article <19930126.010847.96@almaden.ibm.com>, kraemerf@franvm3.VNET.IBM.COM
(Frank Kraemer) says:
>Ron Wigmore <SYST8103@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca> writes:
>>On a VM system we can set up a PFkey to recall any commands just
>>entered *AND* modify them.  AIX's 'history function' only lets me
>>re-issue commands just entered *unmodified*.
> ...
>$ set -o vi     # for vi style command line editing

Thanks to everyone who answered my question!

Hmmm, is this something that we could put into the FAQ?  Those of
us concentrating on learning UNIX from the SYSADM side of things
(and who are very new to UNIX) already have a mountain of manuals
to read.  8-(

Ron,,,
Of course, if my question was more appropriate for some other group,
email saying so so that I can get that group's FAQ!  :-)
From: sdm7g@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU (Steven D. Majewski)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: backup and the -p option
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:04:07 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <C1H3JB.2n7v@austin.ibm.com> chukran@austin.vnet.ibm.com(Rudy Chukran) writes:
>
>backup -p is very convenient, but non-portable.  I use it a lot myself.
>But tar |compress is usually more space efficient and portable.
>-- 

gnu tar has a "+[un]compress" option built-in. 

- Steve Majewski <sdm7g@Virginia.EDU> 		University of Virginia
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From: christes@socrates.umd.edu (Skip Christensen)
Subject: Re: What is with all the inst_Uxxxxxx directories?
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:02:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.085328.8316@cti-software.nl> pim@cti-software.nl (Pim Zandbergen) writes:
>christes@socrates.umd.edu (Skip Christensen) writes:
>
>>I was told that I could remove the inst_U* and deinstl directoreies in
>>/usr/lpp/bos  /usr/lpp/bosadt and /usr/lpp/X11rte.  I did - seems
>>to have no ill effects.  Freed up 30MB.
>
>Have you tried to apply a PTF after that ?
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I've applied and committed PTF's after removing the inst_U* stuff.
Done it three or four times.  No problems.  One thing - this
procedure isn't recommended for systems running in a diskless or
where there is a shared "/usr" situation.
From: mriley@turtle.fisher.com (mriley@fisher.com)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Need a print queue which dumps file to a directory, not a printer...
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:22:45 CDT
Organization: Fisher Controls International, Austin, TX



- In the category of "I know I've seen this before, but I 
  just can't find it..."



AIX v3.2 on an RS6000/560...


I need to set up a print queue which simply dumps the file you submit into a
specific directory. 

ie -- A user submits a print job to this queue (call it dumplp).  The qdaemon
      processes this job by just taking the submitted file and copying it into
      a directory called /usr/dumplp (preserving ownership if possible)...

If it makes a difference, I can either try and implement this on this AIX 
machine or on a Sparcstation IPC (SUNOS4.1.1)

Thanks,
Mike


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From: woks4000@mailszrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Wolfgang Ksoll)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: Experiences installing AIX 3.2.3
Date: 27 Jan 1993 08:05:57 GMT
Organization: CompuNet Berlin
NNTP-Posting-Host: mailszrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de

In article <1k51igINNh9m@menudo.uh.edu> mcbryde@navier.math.uh.edu (Jack Mcbryde) writes:
>In article <1k46efINNiad@mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE> woks4000@mailszrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Wolfgang Ksoll) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan26.155849.11544@msc.cornell.edu> rick@cougar.msc.cornell.edu (Rick Cochran) writes:
>>>o I used the "from scratch" 3.2.3 tape.
>>...
>>Hi,
>>I have two questions:
>>- how much time did you spent to have a running system? Two days?
>
...
>I would venture that the break point for one day falls about at a 530-530H.
>If your machine is faster, you should be able to completely install and update
>in in a day. If its slower it can take two. This, of course, get shaded for
>how much you are installing. (HINT: *don't* choose all when it asks you what

Thank you, Jack, for your informations. We installed some 200 systems in 1992
at about 40 customer sites. My problem is that a regular installation 
take too long. So we decided to create a bootable image to install new
machines. This images is with AIX, AIXwindows and FORTRAN. All known and
necessary patches are incorporated. This takes down the installation
time to two hours on a desktop model and to 50 minutes on a 580.

Even preloaded machines are no progress because you have to install
most of the software yourself from disk. This takes too long.

In 1992 we saw five upgrades: 3.2.0, 3.2.1, 3.2.2., 3.2.3 base, 3.2.3 extended.
In a worst case estimation this would mean on a desktop model 10 days downtime
(not counting the necessary phone calls and additional downtimes for
essential fixes like the qdaemon patch introduced with 3.2.3). This is not
acceptable.

They waste my time with their distribution process (and do not pay for it).
This must be changed. Are there any rumors what will change with the
announcement in February?

Enjoy,


Wolfgang Ksoll           woks4000@mailszrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de
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From: ALB@uvmadmin.uvm.edu
Subject: Oracle and Asyncronous I/O
Organization: University of Vermont
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:54:40 GMT

I'm attempting an install of an Oracle-based product, which is dying
with unresolved references in libc.a, apparently related to the
Asyncronous I/O device (software, not to be confused with serial
hardware).  SMIT claims that it can't access the device info class
(CuDv) when I attempt to configure async I/O.
 
Has anyone experienced this?  The 3.1.5 -> 3.2.? upgrade process was a
nightmare for us; I'm wondering if this is a vestige of that debacle.
 
--
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Computer Operations, University of Vermont
alb@uvmadmin.uvm.edu
From: mcbryde@navier.math.uh.edu (Jack Mcbryde)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: tcopy of 2.3 Gb tape takes 6 hours ???
Date: 27 Jan 1993 17:13:29 GMT
Organization: UH Dept of Math
NNTP-Posting-Host: navier.math.uh.edu

In article <1993Jan27.090147.6742@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au> vla@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Louis Verhagen) writes:
>
>Another problem is that it took over 6 hours to 
>copy just one tape. Does anybody have any suggestions
>or the same experiance?

That's about right for an 8mm tape with the block size set at 512. The transfer
rate is about 250Kb/sec at 1024. At 512 it's 125Kb/sec so it takes about
8 sec/Mb x 1024Mb/Gb x 2.3Gb = 18,800 sec = 313 min = > 5 hrs.

jack
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From: karell@cs.Helsinki.FI (Esa Karell)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Input Device Extensions (X/Digitizer)
Date: 26 Jan 1993 10:07:29 +0200
Organization: University of Helsinki, Department of Computer Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra.helsinki.fi

I've heard that HP/UX has a good manual for
the above subject. I'm looking for something
similar on AIX. Mainly, would like to get
(input) events from a digitizer connected
to an X-terminal instead of the default i-device
mouse. From Info I found something related to
Graphigs but cannot use that package.
Any pointers most welcome.

Esa
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From: rriv@oural.inria.fr (Robert Riviere)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: Paging spaces fill - How to fix?
Date: 22 Jan 93 11:02:16 GMT
Organization: Cermics/Inria-Sophia Antipolis

In article <6905@tuegate.tue.nl> ronald@lowt.phys.tue.nl (Ronald Aarts) writes:
>RBNTJC@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com (Thomas J Cozzolino) writes:
>
>You can try a "/etc/slibclean" (to be executed as root). It frees memory that
>is occupied by shared libraries. It worked in our case, but I forgot what 
>caused the problem (X or something else). Actually we put it in root's crontab
>to be executed regularly.
>

Interesting...

aneto>lsps -a
Page Space  Physical Volume   Volume Group    Size   %Used  Active  Auto  Type
hd6         hdisk0            rootvg          32MB      84     yes   yes    lv
aneto>slibclean
aneto>lsps -a
Page Space  Physical Volume   Volume Group    Size   %Used  Active  Auto  Type
hd6         hdisk0            rootvg          32MB      85     yes   yes    lv

But not very efficient, is it ?



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From: fogarty@erenj.com (Ben Fogarty)
Subject: Building a bootable floppy
Followup-To: comp.unix.aix
Organization: ER&E, Clinton, NJ.  Opinions solely the author's, not the Company's.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:20:54 GMT

	In the January issue of RS/Magazine there was an article on setting up
emergency procedures
for your RS6000. One of the first things which should be done is build a
bootable system
onto an alternate media to permit getting at the hard disk. The article
cites publication
SC23-2341-05 - AIX Installation Guide. Unfortunately, the machine I
inherited has no manuals
and I can't look up the procedure. I am running version 3.2 of the
operating system. I would very
much appreciate a set of instructions on how to create the bootable system
cited in
the publication mentioned. If it is too complex to  write up, I'll try to
get that manual.

	Thanks very much for your help.

Ben Fogarty - Senior Staff Analyst
Exxon Research & Engineering
Computing and Telecom Support Division
fogarty@erenj.com
From: kevin@shady.UUCP (Kevin Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: Re. AIX Function Equivalent To VM's "RETRIEVE" Function Re: AIX Function Equivalent To VM's "RETRIEVE" Function
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:34:45 GMT
Organization: ShadeTree Software, Inc.

In article <19930126.010847.96@almaden.ibm.com> kraemerf@franvm3.VNET.IBM.COM writes:
:>Ron Wigmore <SYST8103@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca> writes:
:>
:>>On a VM system we can set up a PFkey to recall any commands just
:>>entered *AND* modify them.  AIX's 'history function' only lets me
:>>re-issue commands just entered *unmodified*.
:>
:>Try,
:>
:>$ set -o emacs  # for emacs command line editing
:>
:>  use <Ctrl-p>  # retrieve the last line
:>  use <Ctrl-b>  # move one character backwards
:>  use <Ctrl-f>  # move one character forwards
:>  use <Ctrl-d>  # delete one character
:>  use <Ctrl-a>  # move cursor to the first character
:>  use <Ctrl-e>  # move cursor to end of line
:>  use <......>  #
:>
:>$ set -o vi     # for vi style command line editing
:>
:>  <try yourself>
:>
:>-frank-

Don't forget... in vi mode anyway, use 'v' to vi the command.
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From: rudy@chukran.austin.ibm.com ()
Subject: Re: backup and the -p option
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:04:23 GMT
Reply-To: chukran@austin.vnet.ibm.com(Rudy Chukran)
Organization: IBM Advanced Workstation Division

In article <1jp73lINN1un@meaddata.meaddata.com>, marko@meaddata.com (Mark Osbourne) writes:
|> The file is compressable; compress squeezes the file from 70 Meg down
|> to about 7 Meg.
|> 
|> How does backup decide whether to compress the file or not?  Is it
|> based on available space on /tmp?  Is it based on available memory
|> swap space at the time?  
backup -p uses Huffman encoding , which is not as efficient as
LZW compression. But it is not this inefficient!

Some other quirks:
The algorithm seems to give up if it finds character run lengths > 2**24 = 16M.
If compress is getting a 10:1 compression factor, I wouldnt be surprised
if this file has exceeded this limit.

Also, ( this looks like a bug), if the file begins with 0x1f1e, then compression
is ignored because the algorithm says "it is already compressed", which
is ludicrous.  

backup -p is very convenient, but non-portable.  I use it a lot myself.
But tar |compress is usually more space efficient and portable.
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From: kraemerf@franvm3.VNET.IBM.COM (Frank Kraemer)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 11:01:17 CET
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re. x3270 install/license server
Reply-To: kraemerf@franvm3.VNET.IBM.COM
Organization: IBM Germany, BO-89 ACIS South
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: Usenet 3.0

.

jern@visual1.jhuapl.edu (Bob Jernigan) writes:

>I've just finished installing 3.2.3 but when I attempt to install
>x3270 I get a "license server not found" message.  I can find
>nothing in the literature on the license server.
>What have I missed?

The x3270 product needs a vendor supplied password before you can
start this application. This license can either be 'nodelocked'
(only available on one node) or a floating network license (also
multiple licences).

In both cases you must install and set up the NCS system which is part
of bosnet.obj (supplied with AIX), check out /etc/rc.ncs. If you
like to use a floating license you also need a product called RLM
Resource License Manager (same as NetLS from HP).

In order to get a valid password for your system you have to provide
the unique CPU-id of your system - 'uname -m' is the command for that.
Attached to x3270 software there should be some docs you need to fill
out and fax to the license center in order to get your password(s).

-frank-








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From: stritzi@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Peer Stritzinger)
Subject: SCSI performance: how is it affected?
Keywords: scsi performance
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 05:58:54 GMT

I'm trying to speed up a 530 by installing a new hard disk. The drive will
be a 1 GB 9 ms IBM OEM drive.

As far as I remember, from AIX 3.2 on SCSI-2 is supported. The machine is
running 3.2, but does the controller already support it? Or do I have to 
replace the SCSI-controller as well?

Is there a big difference between SCSI and SCSI-2?

--
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From: jochenr@neuro.informatik.uni-kassel.de (Jochen Ruhland)
Subject: Re: xlC++ Severe Compiler Error - solved!!
Organization: FG Neuronale Netzwerke - Uni Kassel
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:14:29 GMT

The problem is found, and whats more important, it's solved.
The C++ compiler checks some non-documented environment variables to
see if there are any modifications to the source-code regarding the
source code.
In that special case the compiler did not found it, was looking for
the default language, and found it to be german.
And now he was looking for german-formatted numbers in the source.
(( We (so said DIN) write 100,00 when we really mean 100.00 ))
So, BTW has anyone ever seen a compiler who translates the
language-keywords to another foreign language?? IBM must be mad!!!

"You can use any language you want, if it's english"
	Henry Ford (not quite ok, but nearly)
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From: taluskie@utpapa.ph.utexas.edu (Vince Taluskie)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: AIX equivs of /etc/printcap, running lprps under AIX, good FAQ topic ?
Date: 26 Jan 93 04:41:39 GMT
Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin

Hi,

I recently setup one of our Ultrix machines to handle doing postscript
accounting using the lprps package.  The postscript printer was hooked
up over a serial line (/dev/tty00) to the Ultrix host.  I got in the
habit of modifying /etc/ttys, /etc/remote, and /etc/printcap to set
things up.

Now, I've got an AIX machine at 3.2.2 that also has a printer hooked
up over a serial line and I'd like to know what I need to do to get
the lprps package running properly.  This sounds like something that 
should be in the FAQ so maybe it's best if it gets squared away here
(forgive me if this has been talked about before and I'm just clueless.)

1. How are people doing postscript accounting on their AIX machines ?

2. What is the AIX equivalent of the "if" field of /etc/printcap ? ( The
filter that's supposed to do accounting on the spooled file )

3. Ultrix (and probably other UNIXes) has the serial line under /dev/tty??
but AIX uses the serial adapter s1 .  How do you open up the serial
adapter for communication with the printer ?  Do you have to somehow link
a tty with /dev/lp0 ?  

Anything else that's helpful, please feel free to insert.  Please post
to the group so that we can get some feedback on this issue.

Thanks in advance,

Vince Taluskie


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From: Mickey_Coggins@vnet.ibm.com
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 15:43:25 CET
Cc:   steves@ssecmail.ssec.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: Problem with AIX3.2 paging subsystem?
Reply-To: Mickey_Coggins@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.1

In <1993Jan21.230535.4139@cs.wisc.edu> Steve Shirshac writes:
>I think I may have found a problem in the AIX 3.2 paging subsystem.  If
>you have any experience with developing device drivers for AIX, I would
>appreciate any insights you might have into this problem or how to
>isolate it further.  A rather detailed description follows.
> ....
>           privileged user process ("fred") allocates a large shared mem
>           segment (16Mb), "fred" pins shared mem seg, "fred" opens our
>           device and passes a pointer to the shared mem seg to my device
>           driver.
> ....
>           upon privileged user process completion:
>
>              "svmon" indicates that the pages used to back the shared mem
>                      segment have been unpinned.

svmon shows the segment to be unpinned, but is it still there?
Run a nasty script like the following to see what svmon thinks
the paging space usage is:
svmon -Sa 10000 | cut -c45-53 | awk '/0-9Y/{print $1"+f"}' | dc | tail -1

Compare this with pstat -s, vmstat 2 2, lsps -a, (they will all return
slightly different values, by the way).

If you are getting wildly different values, this could be a bug in AIX.
Take a system dump, using the sysdumpstart command, and send it into
the AIX defect support people.  You'll have to create some kind of
"simple" test case.

I'd keep checking your driver for possible problems.

Another thing to try is to map a 16MB file (create and touch all pages
before you use it) to shared memory using the shmat() system call,
(see info for the appropriate flags).  You might want to create,
bzero, unlink, map, run, exit and see if the file space is still
taken up.  Could provide a clue.

>              "ipcs" indicates that the shared memory segments which were
>                     being used are no longer there.

>Steve Shirshac (steves@ssecmail.ssec.wisc.edu)
>

Viel spass,
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: grefen@convex.com (Stefan Grefen)
Subject: Re: copy 8mm tape to 8 mm tape (using 2 tapedrives)
Keywords: 8mm, tape, 2 tape drives
Reply-To: grefen@convex.com
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 09:12:05 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1993Jan21.132011.17632@socrates.umd.edu>, christes@socrates.umd.edu (Skip Christensen) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan21.031737.21487@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au> vla@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Louis Verhagen) writes:
|> >I would like to attach for a while a second 8 tape
|> >drive so that I can copy data from one tape
|> >to the other. Does anybody have any ideas about
|> >which command to use for this? 
|> >
|> >e.g. tar (and than pipe it to the second 8mm drive?)
|> >or   dd ??
|> >
|> >Any help is more than welcome. 
|> >
|> >Greetings
|> >Louis Verhagen		Vla@waves.ce.adfa.oz.au
|> >
|> 
|> 
|> You said you have two tapes -- both 8mm.  Let's assume one is
|> rmt0 and the other rmt1.  Use the tcopy command, e.g.
|> 
|> tcopy /dev/rmt0 /dev/rmt1
|> 
|> ensure both are working at same block size
Or get ddd (use archive to locate it comp.unix.sources around 1988) , 
it's a very fast dd replacement 
(and good example for using unix .... its pure fun to read
the code, at it take some time to understand why it works).
Regards
 Stefan
From: dfk0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (David F. Keppel)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: U.S. National Debt Monitor
Date: 28 Jan 93 04:44:45 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

I just discovered Xdebt the "Current U.S. National Debt" accumulator.
It updates every second and is currently at the 4 trillion 22xbillion
mark.
I am curious on how this job is running. Is it accurate (running off a
server somewhere) or is it an programmed estimate based on studies?
Is my monitor in parallel with the big board one in Manattan NY?
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