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From: WJM@utrc.utc.com (Bill)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: PC as TDD?
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:19:31 GMT
Reply-To: WJM@utrc.utc.com (Bill)
Organization: Olivetti AFD
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24770

Hello Everyone,

I have a TDD device which I used to communicate over the phone line
with some friends who are deaf.  Basically it is a small computer
terminal type device with a keyboard, single line flourescent
display, and an accoustic coupler for a phone's handset.

As I understand things, the TDD service for the deaf runs at some
non-standard (per today's modern computer equipment), settings.  I
think it is something like 75 baudot, which defines its binary
character set and transmission speed.  (Suppossedly this is still
used because the TDD service was originally set up by the phone
company using old mechanical teletype devices, and newer TDD unit
must adhere to the standard for compatibility.)

Now for my question:

Is there a product available (or plans for a kit), that would allow
me to use my PC as a TDD device?

Besides the luxury of a nice keyboard and monitor, it would be
convenient for storing messages or sending pre-written messages.
(With appropriate software.)  And a direct phone connection via my
modem would be nicer.

Any help would be greatly appreciated,

Thanks,
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From: Dave.Resnik@p100.f5.n232.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Resnik)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: RSD Support Group,You, Me
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:28:35 GMT
Reply-To: Dave.Resnik@p100.f5.n232.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:232/5.100 - EPE Online, East Peoria IL
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24702

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

AS>  DR>> The RSD has spread to my right arm and knees.
AS>
AS>  AS>> this is not consistant with a diagnosis of Reflex
AS>  AS>> Sympathetic Dystrophy.  A real case of RSD does NOT
AS>  AS>> "spread" from one extremity to another.
AS>
AS>  ML> I am not sure who told you this information
AS>
AS> My information comes from EXTENSIVE study of this disease
AS> process.  I could quote from textbooks dealing with this obscure
AS> subject, as well as my personal experience.  Reflex Sympathetic
AS> Dystrophy DOES NOT spread from one extremity to another.  It may
AS> "spread" from the distal part of one extremity to involve more
AS> proximal parts of THAT SAME EXTREMITY, but it does not spread
AS> from one extremity to another extremity.  If symptoms presented
AS> in this way, I would be sure that it specifically was NOT Reflex
AS> Sympathetic Dystrophy.  There are many other severe pain problems

I do not want to start a Board War but I can say by having RSD it
does spread. True RSD is very rare but if you look and see millions
of people have it. It is just never diag. as having it.

AS>  ML> didn't know what it was.
AS>
AS> I'm not at all suprised.  This is an exceedingly rare pain
AS> problem.  As I've stated before in this conference, most doctors
AS> will live their entire lives without ever seeing a case of RSD.

Yes and no. I have been to DR.'s who just did not know what it was.
They have seen it but it was over thier head.

AS> Most doctors go through extensive continuing education every year
AS> after medical school.  This does not mean every doctor can be a
AS> specialist in every aspect ofmedicine.  The inability of most
AS> doctors to recognize an extremely rare medical problem certainly
AS> does NOT suggest there is any failure in their education. This

True 100 %!!!! But you are only as good as the teacher. If the
teacher does not know the subject then all the students will be in
the dark as the teacher.

This reply is not meant to be harmfull towards anybody in the
medical profession. It is just my thinking and the way I look at
it. Please do not take offence.

          TTYL    -=[ Dave Resnik ]=-

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From: Eric.Bohlman@p3.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Eric Bohlman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Tiny Talk
Date: 10 Oct 92 04:58:29 GMT
Reply-To: Eric.Bohlman@p3.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.3 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24838

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

We don't yet have any pre-designed Tinytalk configurations for PC+, but we'd
certainly welcome hearing from anyone who's made some.

Most of the menus should be able to be handled with Tinytalk's auto pop-up
detection facility.  The main terminal screen could be handled with a
continuous scroll window if there's no way to force BIOS output for received
data.

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From: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Freeman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: DecTalk Songs
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:09:44 GMT
Reply-To: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/126 - Lawson & Reay, Vancouver WA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25069

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

In a message to All <24 Sep 92 17:11> Paul Migliorelli wrote:

 PM> Hi all.  If any of you out there (other than Willy, and he
 PM> knows why; & I thank Willy once again), has any source info
 PM> for the availability of files to make DecTalk sing, I'd
 PM> really like to receive such data.  I'm trying to enhance
 PM> the collection as much as possible.  Thanks as always.

At the last NFB convention Clay Hutchinson (he of the Verbal
Operating System) attended (I believe that was Chicago, 1988), he
had a DECtalk singing "Do You Know the Way to San Jose" in the
key of C sharp.  Dunno whether you've got that one or if, given
his current attitude toward customer support, he'd provide you
with the song source but it'd be worth a try!

Regards,

Mike Freeman
... ** Courtroom, n.:  The place where justice is dispensed with. **
___ CRR QWK 1.40

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From: Dave.Resnik@p100.f5.n232.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Resnik)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: RSD Group
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:46:27 GMT
Reply-To: Dave.Resnik@p100.f5.n232.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:232/5.100 - EPE Online, East Peoria IL
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24734

ML> RSDS.  A long time ago, you made reference to talking with a Dr.
ML> Dallas.  This is one of the Dr. that we have supporting us.  Have
ML> you spoken to this Dr. lately?
  Yes and it has been very helpfull.
ML>         I am not trying to start wars here, but you have talked
ML> with one congressman and he says you need something that none of
ML> the people we talked to said is required or needed.  Just letting
ML> you know so that you might be able to get the bbs up and running
ML> SOONER!  In order to beat RSDS, we all need to pitch in andgive
ML> each other a helping hand.

Agree 100 % and would love to work with you. The reason for the
letters is as you know RSD is not to well known. The letters will
help me show the real need for some Goverment funding. I talked to
Senetor Luft about state funding. He explained the prosses to me.
Up to now it has been people like you, your parents, and myself
fighting the goverment. It has been only lately that RSD is an
automatic D.O.R.S. (Dept. of Rehabilatation Services)
qualifacation. In other words the Goverment now looks at RSD in the
same mannor of the blind. This was possable from many letters sent
to the goverment.

What I am trying to do is set up (using the way D.O.R.S. was set
up) a Goverment funded suport just for RDS. I was told I need proof
such a thing needs to be proven a need is really there. The only
way I know is with letters. Lots of letters!!!

As far as just a RDS group true you do not need anything at all but
just a group of people but you are very limited to what you can do.
On the other hand you can go a step further and start a Society. A
Society will allow for diffrent Tax laws. Drives for donations. On
the other hand a Fundation has further power and can be funded in
many other ways under curent tax laws. The next step (one I rather
not do unless it is the only way) is a DEPT of. In this case you
are under state laws and the state runs it. Also a DEPT. of is
under state funding and can get cut at any time.

I hope this explains why you dad has not been told to get letters.
We are doing 2 totaly diffrent things that has totaly diffrent laws
and ways to start.

BTW I am looking for a someone to hub my RSD echo in your area so
if you want the job you got it.

         TTYL    -=[ Dave Resnik ]=-

PS: Say hello to your Dad for me. My voice # is 309)698-5744 come
up to the farm. I have a 5 acre lake. Call me for directions since
you will never find it on the map. I am about 30 minutes from where
you live.

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From: Rick.Catania@f22.n230.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Catania)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: S.i.g.n.s.
Date: 13 Oct 92 04:23:50 GMT
Reply-To: Rick.Catania@f22.n230.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:230/22 - The Special Needs B, Whiting IN
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24884

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

PC>Just a word of caution at this point....you may already have this under
PC>control....but make sure you have representation on your committee doing thi
PC>work who are "Native" users of American Sign Language if you want your work
PC>to have any semblance of acceptance by the Deaf Community.

PC>Up Thumb, Paul."

Thanks Paul!  Well.... The way I feel is that whether the Deaf Community
accepts this or not is besides the point. It would be nice if they
did...  The major objective here is to present the instruction to
students in a way they may understand it. By chance these students are
deaf. My son is a student who will be affected by the outcome of this
project. If it helps him learn.... then I'm all for it.

Despite the fact that notifications have been sent out, Deaf
organizations have been notified directly, there has not been any one
which fits the "Native users of American Sign Language" category
volunteering their time and efforts.

As I figure they're just people.... They have their own personal things
they're involved in... that they want to do... The invitation is always
open.

We could always kidnap a few reps and force them to sit through our
meetings/workshops.... heh heh   Sorry about that...

Take Care...

Rick

 * SLMR 2.1 #T375 * Help is appreciated when it's needed...

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From: dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil (Jude DaShiell)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: braillers
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:25:36 GMT
Reply-To: dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil (Jude DaShiell)
Organization: Olivetti AFD
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24938

The Stainsby machines are put out by
Royal National Institute For The Blind which has
peterborough England.  Henry Stainsby invented these machines one
is now an interpoint model (you can write on both sides of the
per without messing up the writing on the other side) it's how
A.P.H. does braille books.  Another of these machines is a braille shorthand
machine.  I got a copy of the R.N.I.B. catalog believe it
or not it's in braille!  Also, believe it or not their
book catalogs are also available in braille!  There are updated price lists
also available in braille too.  You get the catalog number and description
from the catalog then for the games and aparatus catalog look in your
current price list for the catalog number and the price.
g useful items
available in braille.  Including Math books.  So the next time you get that
college math course and the book isn't available in a useable form
R.N.I.B. bibliography on the subject and see if an
suitable book title can't be selected.  Provided you know the
math code and there were about 6 of them in use over the
R.N.I.B. books I think I can guarrantee you at least a 20 point
increase for final grade in that math course over what you would have had
had you used R.F.B.

R.F.B. does have a place recording some books but they never should
have been allowed to record math foreign language and computer books.
   Anybody who has listened to one of their horrible descriptions of a
graphic figure in a math book knows what I'm talking about.  As for computer
language books, A few years ago a book written by Feingold was so badly messed
up it caused me to fail a course.
I was told this by my cobol instructor too.  So that's on good
authority too.

I remember another great time using R.F.B. books and this came about when
a chaucer course.
Well you know the writing chaucer did was in Middle English.
Believe it or not, R.F.B. had one of the two books I would need
for the course.  The reader decided to omit reading the english
translations though so the whole book was written in
Middle English.  I can tell you, that's a very different
language and I wouldn't be able to survive had I stepped
out of a time machine in chaucer's time and country.
But enough of the blind horror stories.
If you're interested I'll see if I can find the current address for
R.N.I.B. and send it in my next mailing.

jude <dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil>
From: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Freeman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Editorial
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:08:01 GMT
Reply-To: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/126 - Lawson & Reay, Vancouver WA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25065

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

In a message to William Wilson <20 Sep 92 10:52> Steve Richards wrote:

 SR> A few years ago I was enjoying dinner
 SR> in a small bar/restaurant when
 SR> this guy, extremely intoxicated,
 SR> staggered over to my table and started
 SR> telling me how God would heal my
 SR> blindness if only I asked Him.

Hello, Steve.

Ah but this does bring back memories.  When I was in graduate
school at New Mexico State University in Las Cruces, New Mexico,
I was often acosted by people purporting to know that I had
sinned and that God would heal me were I to accept Jesus Christ
as my Personal Savior.  One chap was so obnoxious and persistent
in his ministry following lunch one day that I said to him:  "If
God were so unmerciful as to punish a sinner -- who, after all,
was subject to Original Sin -- with blindness, then I think I'll
go worship the Devil.  He might be more merciful!"  whereupon the
gentleman went off in a huff and didn't bother me again.

Then again, a number of people were working up to a weekend
crusade on campus.  They bothered every blind person on the
campus; I guess they thought we were easy marks.  In any event, I
finally got tired of it and put my arm around one of the women
who was bothering us and told here that if she'd get me a date
for that weekend, I'd attend the crusade.  She pulled away like I
was worse than the Devil and the people didn't bother us any
longer.

Please do not interpret the foregoing as hostility toward
Christians or toward religion; I just feel that such people
should come into the twentieth century and realize that God,
should there be a god, is merciful and that all of us here got
here not of our own choosing and that blindness, like many other
strengths and weaknesses, is just part of us.

Regards,

Mike Freeman < K 7 U I J >
... ** "Too many pieces of music finish too long after the end." -- Stravinsky **
___ CRR QWK 1.40

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From: Bill.Goldsby@p0.f63.n161.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Goldsby)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Back Pain
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:56:56 GMT
Reply-To: Bill.Goldsby@p0.f63.n161.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:161/63.0 - The Greatful Med, Concord CA
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24798

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

 > Right now, my back is killing me. It has not hurt this bad since
 > last winter. I did nothing out of the ordinary. I worked out every
 > other day and swam every day. The pain was so bad this past week,
 > I spent Wednesday and Saturday home in bed (or as inactive as I
 > can be which is not very) and depressed. I have not worked out for
 > five days now and continue to swim and to hurt. I will workout
 > tomorrow and we'll see what happens. Signed baffled with too much
 > energy.

 Keith, I know exactly how you feel, I suffered and injury two years ago this
 November that left me with four herniated lumbar/sacral disc along with
 permanent sciatic nerve damage to both legs. As you can imagine I suffer a
 lot of back pain especially during the winter months<Thank God I live in
 California<G>>, the thing that works for me most during that time besides
 taking some strong narcotic to relieve the pain is using a TENS device. It
 is a recommendation from someone that finds comfort in the use that says
 check it out, it just might work for you. It will aleast keep you so you
 can work off some of that energy....<G>...

... Tagline fever is the primary symptom of the Blue Wave epidemic!!

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From: Ann.Sab@f603.n322.z1.fidonet.org (Ann Sab)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: hello
Date: 10 Oct 92 04:57:38 GMT
Reply-To: Ann.Sab@f603.n322.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:322/603 - Alphaville, Worcester MA
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24831

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

hi kim. i just noticed a message of yours to someone anwant to tell
you i could not resist. people ask me "do you want your
hearing/sight/balance back?" no!!!!!!! i want to stay this way. i
dont want my hearing because it can be very annoying--i dont have
to listen to ugly junk and i dont have to wqcatch ugly movies.
there are advantages and disadvantages.

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From: Steve.Bauer@f7.n291.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Bauer)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Artic Transport
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:18:22 GMT
Reply-To: Steve.Bauer@f7.n291.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:291/7 - Union Station, Wichita KS
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24905

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 CC>> Incidentally, know anything about Artic's TransPort? Sounds
I'll jump in here and say that I have had a chance to see and use the
Artic  Transport and I was very impressed.  They've done a good job
onthis one.

And for Tandy,
 TW>  software that is  propriority to their own speech synthesizers
 TW>  and don't  support a wide range of units I am not the least
 TW>  interested in whether artic lives or dies in the market place.
You can run other software packages on the Transport.  It is not
limited to  Artic like their other synthesizers are.  Of course, you
can always buy the Sonix 2 package and also run other packages.

I don't agree with this practice either, but it's what they are doing.

Steve

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From: parker@gdls.CSCTMD.COM (The Dougster)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: WANTED:Used, computer operated braille printer, or info on...
Keywords: braille printer computer
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:42:22 GMT
Reply-To: parker@gdls.CSCTMD.COM (The Dougster)
Organization: Computer Sciences Corp. @ General Dynamics
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24710

The heading says it all--either information on buying a used, computer
operated braille printer, or if you know of a used, computer operated
braille printer for sale.

It's for my sighted sister, who wants to print some braille stuff for her
visually impaired (VI) 12 year-old daughter.

E-mail, please, and include a phone number. She has no access to the net.
I'll forward the phone numbers to her. Thanks!

Douglas                                  DoD#1961  BMWMOA  Renting:N56136
            [Life is for learning.]
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From: Greg.Pike@f49.n272.z1.fidonet.org (Greg Pike)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Screen Reader
Date: 10 Oct 92 04:58:58 GMT
Reply-To: Greg.Pike@f49.n272.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:272/49 - Calliope's Den, Garrison NY
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24842

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Juan,

 JM> I'm definitely not a programmer.  So, how would I use
 JM> it with a program where there is no available
 JM> configuration?

Screen Reader doesn't require a configuration for every program
that you run.  If you use a program for which there is no special
profile (configuration) you still have all the normal reading
functions available.  The special purpose profiles let you
customize your environment for a particular application, but it's
certainly not necessary.  You still have access to the entire
screen, words, lines, paragraphs, characters, character colors,
etc.

/Greg

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From: Dale.Hayes@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Dale Hayes)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Window Bridge
Date: 10 Oct 92 04:58:37 GMT
Reply-To: Dale.Hayes@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24839

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Have worked with Windowbridge for a little bit now and it does seem
to work.  They were available and helpful in installing the program
and we did get it working.  I would say that sighted assistance is
needed in the installation process and that the installation is not
automatic.  BUT at this point things are O.K.  Oh, the place we got
our 386s from is called Infonet 402-434-2920. More later.

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