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From: thiele@quando.quantum.de (Holger Thiele)
Subject: Redirection of printer output?
Organization: Quantum Software GmbH, Dortmund, Germany
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:16:47 GMT


Hello everybody,

I have a question to MiNT, and I hope, that someone can help me:

Is it possible (under MiNT) to redirect the printer output (i.e. the
data which will travel to the centronics port!) into a file?

I want to collect the print data from a GEM PRoGram into a file (and
manipulate the escape sequences), but I cannot manipulate the program,
so that I have to steal the data "from the centronics port". 
Is it possible to redirect the printer output, maybe using the `/dev'-di-
rectory? I am using MiNT 0.95.

Thanks in advance

Holger


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: nickd@vpnet.chi.il.us (Nicholas J. DiMasi)
Subject: Re: Cyber-stuff
Organization: Vpnet Public Access
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 03:27:31 GMT

For Cyber stuff, check out E. Arthur Brown.  Their catalog lists CAD-3D,
CyberSculpt (which is also available from Lexicor now), etc.  (I don't
recall seeing CyberPaint in there, but then again, I wasn't that interested
in it, as I have Lexicor's Prism Paint - which BTW is not all that expensive.)
I also have Lexicor's Chronos-3D, which is pretty cool.  It seems to have a
few bugs, but I haven't talked to Lexicor about them yet - I have one more
tutorial to work through, and then I'll have them all in one net :-)  Chronos
is a bit expensive at about $200, but it's probably the most powerful 3D 
animation program available for the ST/TT.  And Lexicor, unlike Antic, is
still around and supporting their stuff (they are even official Silicon
Graphics s/w developers now, and are porting some of their Phase IV s/w to
SGI machines).  One thing though, Lexicor does not have their own 3D modeling
program for the Atari - you need CAD-3D (and optionally CyberSculpt, etc.).
Or, if you don't want to design your own objects, get Rosetta-3D and you can
translate a host of different 3D object formats to Lexicor's .3D4 format to
use with Chronos.

Nick DiMasi
nickd@vpnet.chi.il.us		Delphi: TURBONICK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Subject: Re: Atari seen in Compuke! magazine
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:35:26 GMT

In article 9H5@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu, kllove@wildcat.ecn.uoknor.edu (Kenneth L Love) writes:
>
>I thought I'd never see the day when Compute! (er... Compuke!) magazine gave
>any non-PC or non-Mac the time of day.  The end must be near...

Actually, Ken, back in the days of 'Compute ST', it used to be a fairly decent
magazine.  Ah, those were the days.  <sigh>

---

___________________________ John "HUTCH" Hutchinson _________________________
_________________ Fair Dinkum Technologies     Member - IAAD  _______________
________________ "No worries, mate... it's from Fair Dinkum!" _______________
____________ email: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov   GEnie: FAIR-DINKUM _____________


Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: naffara@crc.ac.uk (Dr. N.A. Affara)
Subject: Crackart docs in English?
Organization: MRC Human Genome Resource Centre
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:05:46 GMT

The subject says it all. Where can I find the docs for Crackart which are in
English?
(I can't even work out how to change colour at the moment!)

Any help is much appreciated,
Phil
(E-mail naffara@uk.ac.crc)

-- 
Kryten (When Cat says why don't we raise the defensive shields?) "A superlative
suggestion sir,with only two drawbacks: one,we don't have any defensive shields
and two,we don't have any defensive shields.I know that,technically,that's only
one drawback,but it was such a big one I thought I'd mention it twice".
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hasse@solace.hsh.se (Hans Holmberg)
Subject: Re: Help! TOS 2.06 requires jumpers set...I have resistors.
Organization: Solace Computer Club, Sundsvall, Sweden
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:11:35 MET

In <morrison.722192142@ee.ualberta.ca> morrison@ee.ualberta.ca (Robert Morrison) writes:

>Greetings,

>	I just recieved the TOS 2.06 ROMs I ordered a couple of weeks ago
>from CodeHead.  The package is really slick.  I popped out my old ROMs, put
>in the new ones, and then hit the section about "jumper" settings.  I hunted
>around for about five minutes, looking for the "jumpers" W102, W103, and 
>W104 without finding them.  Then I started looking closer at the system
>board, at the printing, instead of just looking for jumpers.  Aha!  There
>they are...right beside the ROMs...only they aren't jumpers, they're  
>resistors, soldered right into the board....  So, I said, "S#*t."  And that's
>where I'm at still.

>	So, what do I do?  Continue using TOS 1.4?  Desolder the resistors
>from the system board and resolder them in the correct positions?  I am
>hesitant to apply a soldering iron to my system board.  Could I install
>jumpers of my own, or are these resistors critical?  (I can't tell what 
>value they are as they have been painted over.)  This makes me quite angry.

>	Oh, yes, I should mention that the "jumpers" are soldered into the
>wrong points for the new ROMs, according to the docs CodeHead sent me, and 
>I tend to believe the docs...my system won't come up when I power it on.

>	Can anyone give me some advice?  What do these jumpers do?  Are they
>involved in addressing the new ROMs?  Help!       

>|  Robert Morrison              morrison@bode.ee.ualberta.ca            | 

I assume that you have a STe, and those resistors is on 1 ohm, so they
practically are (more or less) jumpers. Just unsolder them and move them to
the right position, and everything will work.

Hasse

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: oyakea@vccsouth09.its.rpi.edu (Amalaye Oyake)
Subject: Re: CUMANA OS/9
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:36:21 GMT

  SORRY ABOUT THE PREVIOUS POST.
 Questions :
  Does anyone have any info on Cumana OS/9 ?
1) does it multitask ?
2) does it have specific applications ?
3) Can it recognise a network ?
4) What is it !!!!!????!!
5) WHat are os/9 's capabilities ?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Subject: Re: 21 meg floptical to MEGA ST4 -- HOW?
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:17:47 GMT

The LINK is a new SCSI/DMA host adapter from ICD which is in the form of a
port adapter, no longer a board.  You plug it on the SCSI port of your hard
drive, Syquest, Floptical, etc and plug your DMA cable from your ST into the
other end.  Pretty slick, I reckon.

Ref the flopticals, I'd suggest you call the dealers marketing them.  One is
Purple Mountain Computers in Bellevue, Washington... (206)747-1519.  The other
is Toad Computers in Baltimore, Maryland... (800)448-8623.  Either one will
be better equipped to give you the tech specs and latest prices.
---

___________________________ John "HUTCH" Hutchinson _________________________
_________________ Fair Dinkum Technologies     Member - IAAD  _______________
________________ "No worries, mate... it's from Fair Dinkum!" _______________
____________ email: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov   GEnie: FAIR-DINKUM _____________
From: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: msa files to hard disk
Date: 21 Nov 1992 02:05:46 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Reply-To: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

>1. I've never heard of Ultra-Pack.  I certainly don't have a copy.
 
As I said in the message (if you read it).  It is available in the
atari/Archivers/
directory at the atari.archive.umich.edu FTP site.

>2.  What's wrong with CONTRIBUTING to the existing FAQ?

Because there's a pretty good chance, once anyone has seen it once, they
won't bother to read it again.  Hence - any good additional info', will
most probably not be seen by them - so an entirely new one, with some
slightly more advanced/common info' might be more useful to some people!?
From: as_radfo@csd.uwe.ac.uk (AS Radford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: APL
Date: 15 Nov 92 17:57:15 GMT
Organization: University of the West of England, Bristol


APL is now available for the AtariST at a very reasonable cost.

It's called I-APL, and costs 11 UK pounds (disk + manual) from:

56 The Crescent
Milton
Weston-super-Mare, Avon
England BS22 8DU

I guess there's a need to add a little for overseas postage/packing.

Queries:  I-APL, 11 Auburn Road, Redland, Bristol BS6 6LS, England.

I bought it recently and am very pleased with it. 

Alas, no credit card sales.

I have no connection (despite my address!) with this organisation.
-- 
  Arthur Radford
  University of the West of England      -------------------------------
  BRISTOL, BS16 1QY, UK                	      Esperanto parolata
  as_radfo@uk.ac.uwe.csd                 -------------------------------
From: jornmoe@fredrik.atari.no (Joern Moe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Atari Corp. Scand. AB (Norway)
Subject: Re: More Falcon news...
	<1992Nov20.122035.4010@arizona.edu>
Reply-To: jornmoe@fredrik.atari.no
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:11:50 MET

In <1992Nov20.122035.4010@arizona.edu>, Paul Harris writes:
**** A lot deleted *****

>Why is this so strang?  In a TT, the 68030 is running at 32 MHz, and
>TT-RAM is 32-bit, 32 MHz.  But everything else--ST-RAM, DMA, vidio--
>is all at 16-bit, 16 MHz.  And I get about 4x the speed with only ST-
>RAM, running the same program (no 68030 or 68882 commands).

Your TOTALY wrong!!

The only tru statement is that the 68030 runs at 32Mhz!!

The TT-RAM is 32 bit wide and is clocked by a 16 mhz clock. Synchronous 
transfer and burstmode combined with the internal cache of the cpu gives
it a resonable, but not maximized, performance!

The ST-ram is 64 BIT wide, but the CPU accesses it through a 32 bit bus.
the videoshifter accesses the ST (video) ram on a 64 bit bus (that's why they
can rip a 110mhz pixel clock off 100ns RAM-cips, which would be impossible
on a 32 bit bus).
The TOS-ROMs is also 32 bit wide (thats why there are 4 of those 256k*8bit
EPROMS in it)!

All other ST/STE/MSTE compatible hardware is 16 or 8 byte wide, and so is
also most of the TT spesific hardware that is not mentioned above!

I have taken this information from the schematics of the TT, so there should be
no doubt about it beeing correct!

-- 
  _______________________________________________________
 / Joern F. Moe /  All above is my own personal opinion! \
/ Oslo, Norway /  Any lack of opinion above is also mine! \
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From: Vincent_Partington@p15.f202.n281.z2.fidonet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Jekyll v1.38....BIG BUG FIXED!!!
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 17:03:58 +0100
Reply-To: p15.f202.n281.z2.fidonet!Vincent_Partington@nextjk.wlink.nl
Distribution: world
X-FSC-PATH: 4202/15 281/202
X-FSC-PID: LED 1.00

Hi everyone,

Apparently Jekyll v1.36 and v1.37 had one very big bug with the
RTS/CTS-handling in Jekyll's own serial routines. Because my modem doesn't
have RTS/CTS this bug managed to slip by, but Mario van den Heuvel has
notified me of it. I managed to fix the problem immidiately and meanwhile
some bugs in Hyde were fixed.
So please use Jekyll v1.38 and pass on this message. Thank you.

Ta!
    Vincent

FidoNet : 2:281/202.15
NeST    : 90:500/202.15 <-- NEW ADDRESS!!!
Usenet  : vincent@nextjk.wlink.nl

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 * Origin: N_JEKYLL: Da place 2 B! (2:281/202.15)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hasse@solace.hsh.se (Hans Holmberg)
Subject: Re: Lha Files
Organization: Solace Computer Club, Sundsvall, Sweden
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 22:33:58 MET

In <1eos6hINN7i6@golem.wcc.govt.nz> sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:

>Well I found some Lha files on a site (German one) and have never come across
>them before, so how do you extract them..???


>Roger.................               sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Use the version of Lharc that can handle lh5. Those files was probably
packed with unix-lha or amiga-lha.

Hasse
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: mmunoz@vxcrna.cern.ch (MUNOZ,MARC./DG)
Subject: Re: Technical wordprocessors for ST
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:40:00 GMT

Other than TeX, they exist a french word processing program called "Le 
Redacteur" that have a module of formula display. The program is excellent, 
even better than Word 5 for Mac and faster. The current version is 4. I don't
know is an english version exist.
                                    MArc
From: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: msa files to hard disk
Date: 20 Nov 1992 08:47:31 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Reply-To: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

>>1. I've never heard of Ultra-Pack.  I certainly don't have a copy.
>
>2. What's wrong with CONTRIBUTING to the existing FAQ?
>--
>Warwick
>--
>  _-_|\      warwick@cs.uq.oz.au            /Disclaimer:
> /     * <-- Computer Science Department,  /  
> \_.-._/     University of Queensland,    /   C references are NULL && void*
>      v      Brisbane, Australia.        /  

WEll these dumb OZZy's should turn on there Brain, ! sorry I forgot the don't
have one, and read more of the articles that are posted here... :-)..


Ultra-Pack 1.1R from memory was uploaded to A.A. some time back, but being a
Ozzy you would not unstand that...

Get a brain transplant, a Pommy one could help a lot..:-)...

Then you would at least be up to our level here...???


One of the 5 million sheep and I don't have a brain...:-)...

Well I think I found it, its hidden in My Atari keyboard...???


Roger...................                sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
From: Craig.Graham@newcastle.ac.uk (Craig Graham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: FSM GDOS
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:14:26 GMT
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU.


Apparently (I have just spoken to HiSoft) FSM GDOS is at last shipping in the UK.
Now. As I write. Not 'real soon now'. About time as well.

Craig Graham       | E-mail:Craig.Graham@newcastle.ac.uk
BAe Space Systems  | Phone : (UK) 091 2737650
Stevenage, England.| Snail-mail: 38 Brighton Grove, Fenham, Newcastle, England.
From: kgrubb@cs.hw.ac.uk (Kevin J Grubb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Falcon delivery date!
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:40:34 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computing & Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

There has been a lot of talk about when the Falcon will be delivered to 
shops for sale. There has been numerous people spreading rummors about
the Falcon, without hard evidence. 

Atari have not said anything on paper (I think). Well, I have seen with
my own eyes a fax sent from Atari's U.K distributor that they will
deliver a number of 4Mb Falcons on 25/11/92!! And my ordered Falcon is on
this delivery! 

But I suppose I'd better not get too excited, I'll belive it when the
cash has parted from my hand, and I have a Falcon instead. But I think it
is the first hard proof? Does anyone else know of a similar delivery date?
I'll let you all know on Wednesday if I get one or not.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: nino@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Marinos Yannikos)
Subject: Re: Old Game...what's it called.
Organization: TU Wien, Vienna, Austria
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:01:43 GMT

warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison) writes:
: In <1egpdlINN4bi@golem.wcc.govt.nz> wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
: 
: >Dungeon Master
: >Chaos Strikes Back
: >Eye of the Beholder
: >(^Not on the ST though^)
: >Captive (No spells)
: >Corporation
: 
: Rogue (including commercial version by EPYX)
: Nethack
: Moria
: Larn
: 
: 
: --
: Warwick
:

Err... these 4 games may be great, but I don't think the original
poster meant one of these... He mentioned a "great interface"... :)

-MY

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: lenn@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jody Lenn)
Subject: Formula One Grand Prix Question??
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:45:18 GMT

I just bought Grand Prix (used) and disk 1 won't load.

I can still play the game but I would like to get disk 1 working.

If any other owner of Grand Prix (in the U.S.) would be willing to let me
send them my ORIGINAL disk 1, so that you may copy the working disk 1 right
over my non-working copy, I would sincerely appreciate it.

                                            Thanks,
 
                                            Jody Lenn
From: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Lha Files
Date: 23 Nov 1992 20:41:00 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Reply-To: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Sorry, Lh5 & Lh1 on the ST both use the LZH extender - which doesn't matter
as LHarc will un-LZH either!
 
The Am*ga & Un*x versions are completely different - and some versions
won't recognise older Lh1 archives.
From: kllove@wildcat.ecn.uoknor.edu (Kenneth L Love)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: THE STORM
Date: 18 Nov 92 13:23:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: constell.BxwyJL.A4M
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

viljanen@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lea Viljanen) writes:

>In <1d86v1INNlnl@golem.wcc.govt.nz> sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>...
>>    o Precise terminal emulations including Vidtex and VT100.

>Ha! The program is totally useless for any serious user if
>it doesn't support more than Vidtex and VT100. Preferably
>VT200, including support for 8-bit characters (ISO LATIN-1).

>>Roger.............            sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

>-- 
>Lea 'LadyBug' Viljanen     University of Helsinki   "Every real program
>Lea.Viljanen@Helsinki.FI   Computing Centre          has some input" - H&P

Um... What constitutes serious use to you?  I call the DECs here at school
with VT100 all of the time to do things like reading c.s.a.st (important! :),
edit files (with vi of course), and generally muck about.

What am I missing with VT200?  I don't need Latin characters to be displayed
on my screen (couldn't read 'em if they did show up).  In other words, what
kinds of uses are there for VT200 that aren't covered by VT100?

                                                  Just wondering,
                                                  Kenneth Love
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: Atari seen in Compuke! magazine
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:15:58 GMT

In article <Bxwx1n.9H5@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> kllove@wildcat.ecn.uoknor.edu (Kenneth L Love) writes:
>
>The December issue had a company trying to teach you about music on computers.
>They were giving away an ST when you payed their tuition.  Their was even a
>520/1040 style case (couldn't tell which because of the small picture).

I love this ad. It's been around for years, and it gets my vote for "dumbest
mistake in a magazine ad". The picture in the ad protrays a man sitting at a
desk with an ST in front of him, and an electronic keyboard to his right. He
appears to running some kind of sequencing program. Now, look at the picture. 
Look at the MIDI ports on the left side of the ST... WITH NOTHING PLUGGED INTO
THEM! 

How can they claim to know anything about the ST's use in music, and not even
have the computer set up right in their ads?


-- 
"Dammit Jim, I'm a free man, not a number!"
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Subject: Re: Mouse wander - acceptable?
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:41:48 GMT

In article 4216@nntp.nta.no, otv@hal.nta.no (Oddvar Tveito FTO) writes:
>My ATARI dealer sold me a mouse for my STe 1040 which frequently starts
>to wander around the screen by itself - without me touching the mouse.
>The problem is of course that in some programs, if it pulls down a menu,
>the program will not respond to keyboard inputs.  
>
>My dealer tells me this is common to all non-atari mice, and is due to
>"very strong signals from the mouse". In my opinion this has rather to do
>with "very much noise from the mouse". Should I accept what he says, or
>is this behavior of my mouse unacceptable? Any authorized opinions are
>very much appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Well, mine is not an "authorized" opinion, but an "opinonated" one, anyway. :)

Sorry, I don't buy your dealer's explanation.  I've used a couple of third
party mice on the Atari and none have exhibited this behavior.  If you are
running some kind of screen accelerator that also speeds up mouse input, you
might try disabling that.  If that doesn't work, get a refund, a new mouse,
and/or a new dealer.
---

___________________________ John "HUTCH" Hutchinson _________________________
_________________ Fair Dinkum Technologies     Member - IAAD  _______________
________________ "No worries, mate... it's from Fair Dinkum!" _______________
____________ email: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov   GEnie: FAIR-DINKUM _____________


Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: Alan Edwards <EDWR@UNB.CA>
Subject: Cyber-stuff
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:13:55 GMT

I realize that this must have been covered here before, but I am new
to this list...
     I was at my friends last night, and he has
CyberPaint and Cad 3D. These both look like pretty good programs,
but I can't find them in any catalog. Have they gone away?

I had been looking at the Lexicor programs to do similar sorts of
things, but they are pretty expensive. Are they really worth the
extra $$.

Thanks for any info.
Alan

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra)
Subject: Re: atari.archive
Organization: Department of Philosophy, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:11:24 GMT


Someone had troubles emailing to Jeff Weiner. Someone else suggested that he'd
type the address in lowercase. IMO this should _not_ make any difference.
Indeed the umich address seems to be having troubles - my (lowercase :) mail
also bounced. However, the following address appeared to be 'valid':

        weiner@umnstat.stat.umn.edu

Hope this helps,
Hendrik Jan

--
Hendrik Jan Veenstra    hjv@phil.ruu.nl  *  How can I save my dreams
Dept. of Philosophy                      *  in the nightmare, in the flood
University of Utrecht                    *  But I try.
The Netherlands                          *
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