HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu (Billy H. Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: !!!Another psychological question!!!
Date: 6 Oct 1992 07:40:19 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Oct5.193009.14439@uxmail.ust.hk> bi_kin@uxmail.ust.hk (HoiFung JACK @>-`) writes:
[stand @edge of cliff, don't know bottom]
>okay, now what is your immediate feeling at that moment and
>what is your immediate action?
2 things: you are taking psych, huH?   (standard netiquette= 4 line .sigs)
Anyway, my immediate feeling, of heading into some relationship with some
girl/female.  I can't see where it's headed, and don't know where it will
go.  I'm confused.  I'm scared.  I'm also getting a big headache.  I try
to reach out to anything for support/help.  Just one more inch, and down
I plunge.  One part of me says "stop, you're not suicidal".  The other
part of me says "Go for it, it'll be fun."
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From: vchan@haas.berkeley.edu (Vincent Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Prettiest male
Date: 30 Sep 1992 23:42:30 GMT
Organization: Haas School of Business, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: haas.berkeley.edu

In article <BvEo3o.LqK@acsu.buffalo.edu> v050qh6y@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (SYS$LOGIN:SIGNATURE.TXT) writes:

>i am a girl and so i feel i must respond.  no biased opinion here although 
>andy is my ultimate idol.  here goes  he is not gorgeous, but i cant think 
>of any moviestar nearly as good-looking as him.  chow yun fat and man chi 
>leung are no where near as handsome as andy.  andy is kinda short though, 
>
>if he was just three inches taller, he would be flawless!
                                                 ^^^^^^^^^

Wow, flawless !!! I love this word :)
But nobody is perfect in this world !
Do you know anything about his personal characters ?

Vincent
Haas School of Business, Berkeley



Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: aredith@uxmail.ust.hk (Edith W.Y. LEUNG)
Subject: Sorry
Followup-To: bi_kin@uxmail.ust.hk
Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Distribution: soc.culture.hongkong
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 11:11:32 GMT

sorry

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: rchoy@clarify.com (Raymond Choy)
Subject: Re: Transferring executable file.
Organization: Clarify, San Jose
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:56:17 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.094607.2805@nic.csu.net> johnny@futon.SFSU.EDU () writes:
>Could anybody suggestion a way to transfer an execution file
>from a person's account to the other? Besides ftp? Mailing?
>Thank you.
>
>

How about copy with NFS/mount?
or even easier, tar it to a floppy-disk and physically move the disk to the
target machine and untar it.  :-)
How about UUCP?
or uuencode and mail?


-Raymond Choy-





Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
From: leoso@cs.arizona.edu (Leo WaiChung So)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Execellent Bibliography of TMP
Date: 2 Oct 92 03:07:20 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson


  [I tried to follow up the original post using 'F' in rn, but they 
  won't let it (and my last follow-up too) thru simply because "there 
  are too many old lines than new text"! So I post it instead. This is
  my fifth trial...]

In article <1992Oct2.004426.17231@oracle.us.oracle.com>
alaw@uucp (Alvin W. Law) writes:
    
    Albums:
    86   Continue to Pursue "Gai Dzok Jui Dzum" (EP)
    86   Album with <Kiss Me Goodbye>
    87   Story of stone
    87   I'm Waiting For You to Come Back...
    88   Night Hasn't Ended
         (Remix featuring three versions of "Tonight the Stars Twinkle")
    88   Do You Still Love Me?
    88   We Grew Up Like This
         (Their first Best Collection +
          "Tonight We Should Be Happy")
    89   Can't Suppress the Feelings
    89   Crazy / Nerve (I don't have the chance to figure out the actual
         meaning)
    90   A Different Memory
         (Their second Best Collection + 3 new songs)
    91?  Best of TMP
         (Their third and possibly last Best Collection)
    
    P.S. "Long March" was included in one of Polygram's Collection in 88.
         I can't recall if Polygram had released a separate copy though.
    
    CDs:
    87   TMP 86/87 Collector's Edition
    87   I'm Waiting For You to Come Back...
    88   A shared remix album with Alan Tam and Priscilla Chan which
         includes all five songs from "Night Hasn't Ended"
    ...
    (From that point on, they had synchronized releases of their albums
    and CD's)
    
--------------- end of original post ------------------



  Execellent bibliography! Thanks. My memory on their albums sucks...

  Are there any new songs in their 88 CD with Alan and Priscilla?

  <Long March> is at least in their last album 91.

  By the way, I bought their second collection simply because of 
  "Whark Sing"... Their collections duplicate themselves a lot.

  Cheers,
  leo.

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From: bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu (Billy H. Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: On Equality Between Genders
Date: 2 Oct 1992 07:15:03 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <23213@optima.cs.arizona.edu> leoso@cs.arizona.edu (Leo WaiChung So) writes:
>
>  One of my female friends recently have a discussion with me on
>  Gender Equality. She said that both "woman" and "female" are 
>  terms derived from "man" and "male" respectively. So she said
>  that western culture is male-dorminated culture from its very
>  beginning.
>
>  Then I told her that in Chinese we have no such derivation: We
>  have "Nam Yan" and "Lui (Nui?) Yan", "Nam Sing" and "Lui Sing"
>  only. So she infered that Chinese culture does better than Western
>  in treating the two genders equally...
>
>  I have no comment. What do you netters think?
>
>  Leo.

I took one semester of linguistics, so I'm no expert or anything, but
supposedly, the way a language is structured reflects how the society
is structured (theoretically).
Now, to reality:
	I'm not sure Chinese culture treats the two genders equally,
unless you mean equally badly.  A man has to be the head of the family,
take all the responsibilities (for the whole family, and in ancient times,
these included disabled family members, elder parents, elder relatives in
general, and the young).  But with this almost nerve wrecking responsibility
were the fringe benefits of like: having more than one wife, having most of
the authority, etc.  Now, a woman is pretty much supposed to be supportive,
play a more "defensive" or internal-affairs type of role while her husband
goes out into the world, "active" or external-affairs.  And that was the
way it had to be.  But then, I'm not thinking in modern terms.
	Now, a look in modern terms.  From what I gather about HK (this is
the HK group, so I'll use that as my example) both genders get jobs, carry
the finacial burdens, carry authority, carry responsibilities.  (though I'm
sure there's still residual "animosity" towards a working woman).
	So, to sum up my point, I don't think Chinese culture treats both
genders more equally than Western culture.  What I'm more sure of is that,
we didn't rock the boat, and no one complained.  (Why?  perhaps because
neither gender were too envious of what the other had in Chinese culture?
or perhaps because Chinese took it to be the Way "If the sky falls, pretend
it's a blanket."  (ouch, I really messed that translation up...)
	Anyway, my 2 cents, though I'll only pay one for your thoughts.
-- 
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Billy H. Chan 		<bhchan@ocf.berkeley.edu>	"Hey, the OCF
Friendly OCF Helper 	<bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu>	 is running!"
Disclaimer: I do not claim to be correct, just curious.
From: leekfe@eecg.toronto.edu (Kim Fung Edward Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: About Leon Lai
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:13:39 GMT
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto

In article <22888@optima.cs.arizona.edu> leoso@cs.arizona.edu (Leo WaiChung So) writes:
>In article <10292270.86258.10111@kcbbs.gen.nz> one writes:
>>
>>But I only heard Leon sing off-tune about 3 to 4 times...
>>
>  No comment. :) :)
>

	Seems that many people have the impression that Leon regularly
sings off-tune..... I agree..... But have you noticed years ago,
when The Tat-Ming Pair just started thier career, Wong Yiu MIng
also almost always sings off-tune when he sings live? 
I'd say Leon sings better than Wong Yiu Ming. They have/had the 
same problem though , physical problem : the depth of breath,
you see it's the outgoing breath that keeps your vocal chord's
vibration under control; if you're out of breath, there goes your
tune....

I once asked the same question : How could they be popular when they 
could not even sing properly live? 

	I realized one point that when the songs (tune +
lyrics) are good, you'll like the song as well as (may be) the singer....
And the album producer plays a very important role because he
needs to choose the right songs for the right singers......
and only once or twice when a mediocre singer has the chance to
sing some very good songs, he'd be famous.....

	And franky, I liked Tat-Ming very much, not becasue of
Wong Yiu Ming's singing, but becasue of their music and lyrics....
and of course, the improvement of Wong's singing.....

	For leon, he did have a few very good songs; not that he 
sings them particulartly well, it's just that the songs themselves
are good. They might've been sung much better by other singers ( like
Jacky or Alan). But most people will listen to them and then like
them... and the singer is red-hot...... and when a singer is
red-hot.... you'll naturally listen to more of his songs and
those songs, believe it or not, will become more easily "accepted"...
...something like a "weak postive feedback" until he doesn't have
any good songs.....

	This happens to every single singers, even the best ones.

just my 2cents worth..... comments?


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: cs_rayhy@uxmail.ust.hk (YaN HO LEunG)
Subject: Re: HKer like young people only?
Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:03:03 GMT

In article <6130117@hpopd.pwd.hp.com> yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan) writes:
>Change of subject. Has you noticed that? Most of the stars in Hong Kong are
>very young (or young looking or pretend to be young). While there are much
>more middle age actor (or actress) in western world (I mean USA or UK). I
>can't remember any flim or tv series acted by middle age mainly. Is Hong
>Kong people like young man (woman) only? I know that a lot of actors are
>not young at all (in their 30 even 40). But the figure they acted in the
>flim or tv are in their 20s or even teenager.
>
>Also, it is so bad to see a lot of those Miss ??? on TV. Most of them can't
>act. Would it better to put some vise there?
>
>Commant?
>
>Yuk

'cos they are cheap! low salary! In such a way can TVB or ATV earn more and pay less. Don't you know a Taiwan BOY, Lam Chi Wing, callsign "small whirlpool"??

What about Beverly Hill 90210? Those actors or actresses look like high school
students? Same thing happen in US, not just HK.

Clement.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: h8915726@hkuxb.hku.hk (Chris Lo)
Subject: Re: Contributions to schk from HK students
Reply-To: h8915726@hkuxa.hku.hk
Organization: The University of Hong Kong
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 08:14:37 GMT

stevew@helios.unl.edu (Steve Wu) writes:
: cs_rayhy@uxmail.ust.hk (YaN HO LEunG) writes:
: 
: >P.S.	Clement is a friend of cs_rayhy.
: >	Can any HK students who are frequent readers of schk, please
: >	respond? Thanx!
: 

	Such a long way he goes, for just to read schk, from hku to
	hkust and send this message...

:   If anyone in HKU like to install uunet news feed program, I can give
: some information about how to build your own news feed, that is you
: don't really have to be root to install this things everyone can do
: that. Also, I can provid news feed to your guys and let you have to
: right to post. But you have to know some basic unix and network.
: 
:   steve
: 
: --

	Thanks Steve, we have one now, in fact, I think we always
	have one since the Ultrix system but never disclose to
	our users. And I can only read the usenet news since
	two weeks ago.

	But I will tell somebody who would like to feed the usenet
	news to our local BBS echo area. We have been longing
	for a solution, though this is not a permanent one.

: stevew@helios.unl.edu  |=| \ Fender / |=| ... smoke on the water, fire in
:                        |=|   \    /   |=| the sky...   Smoke on the water.
: stevew@hoss.unl.edu    |=|     \/     |=|     (36 bars guitar solo)
: 		      Deep purple, the best

--
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University of Hong Kong
H8915726@hkuxa.hku.hk

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: 91066702@cphkvx.cphk.hk
Subject: I am back from Beijing.....
Organization: The Ohio State University; Department of Phyiscs
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:30:15 GMT

Hi all SCHKers,

This is Aulina, a female, HK student, frequent contributor to SCHK again!

I just came back from Beijing...sorry that I can't keep posting you all sorts
of things in the past 2 weeks, please accept my apology.....

I just looked through SCHK and find many new and strange things.

First, regarding George Lam's old or not mails..well, the correct word should
be "artiste", and not "artist"....artist can only refer to Da Vincci, Picasso,
or Bethoveen...people like them...I think even George himself would not like to
be called an "artist". Also, I just found out his birthday, it is 12-10-1947,
do you still think he is old or not?

OK, another thing. I am really glad that SCHK is full of non-political things
now....but, as a personal opinion...I think it is time to stop voting for
prettiest female, male....it makes the net a bit shallow...I don't mean to
blame anyone here, it is just a personal opinion.

The third thing is...I read a news by a student in HKU..sorry, if the following
lines would hurt you, please forgive me.....
Well, there are HK students like me, who is a frequent contributor, you can ask
those SCHKers who sent in pop charts every week...and this has lasted for about
a month already, have you ever read that? Does that count as contribution?
Sorry, I think you are really a bit too proud of HKU, or too proud to be a HKU
student...your news seems like command, and the most is....I think you yourself
is not or has not been a frequent user here, or you will not say that there is
"NO" HK people here....You should know that there are just too many things to
do in HK! (Please forgive my rudeness, I just don't like proud people...)

I can tell you that I myself is only a contributor and seldom read SCHK, it is
because I think if I know there is anything I can do for these overseas,
homesicked students, I should try my very best....like I have asked them long
time ago if anyone is interested in pop music, and then find that they really
need these info...so, at last I posted charts for them here every week, even I
seldom read the news here...ok, I am losing my self control now, so I think it
is better for me to stop talking about this issue.

Another thing about the email address of CPHK, if anyone want to have a look at
mine, you can see it from the header. Please, if you are not sure, don't tell
others to try, it will burden the net!

To send email to CPHK, you have to know the student number of the user. eg. if
you want to email 12345678, you can type:

12345678@cphkvx.cphk.hk   or

12345678@cphkvx.bitnet

you can send mails by these address in no doubt. Hope I can help the ones who
want to send email to cphk.

A long mail now....see you all soon....I will keep posting the charts this
week. So, watch for it!!

Bye bye!

Aulina from CPHK, still in summer vacation.
1992.9.29 15:07
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: glo@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (George Lo)
Subject: Re: The best pop singer in HK
Organization: Oracle World HQ, Redwood Shores, California
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:13:14 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Sep26.201857.24379@ra.msstate.edu> alfred@bambi.tmc.edu (Alfred Wu) writes:
>In article <1992Sep25.175904.28765@oracle.us.oracle.com> glo@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (George Lo) writes:
>>In article <eln235s.717329902@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au> eln235s@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr H Hui) writes:
>>>dht@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Joyous Dave baby) writes:
>>>
>>>[deleted]
>>>
>>>>Best Band:
>>>
>>>>1) Da Ming 1 Pie
>>>Just a query? Have they "dis-banded" already?
>>>
>>>>2) Raidas (if they are still alive)
>>>>3) Grasshopers
>>>>4) Tai Chi
>>>>5) Beyond
>>
>>Da Ming's first 2 albums were pretty good and then they sort of on
>>the downfall.  And they "dis-banded" long time ago.
>>Tai Chi's first LP is great.  After a while, they only copied
>>western songs and was not very popular.  They still exists.
>
>Are you sure?  Da Ming became very popular after the release of
>their third Album i.e. Xie Tao Jee (Story of The Stone).  Since then,
>they had been quite successful for 2 to 3 years.
>You said that they only copied western songs.  I bet your pardon.
>Where do you get such an idea?  I only remember that there was one
>of their song that was not written by Ta Ming and that song was
>in their second album (as I remembered).

Please buy a new pair of glasses.  In my post, I said Tai Chi copied
western songs, not Dat ming.
And the western song that Dat ming copied is "kiss me goodbye".  It
should be their first LP.  There is one EP before that.  And after
"Shi Tou qi", there are still ok, but the peak is over.  Don't you
know what downfall mean?
From: drslump@shelley.u.washington.edu (Alan Cheng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Help on FAQ
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:30:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct6.203017.23141
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle



Can someone show me how to read FAQ on this Newsgroup.

Thanks
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Subject: Employment in Hong Kong
Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:37:04 GMT

Hello everyone. I'd receive an email asking me about emplyment in
Hong Kong. Since there are those MUCH more qualify than myself in
answering such a question here in schk, I'll post it here as listed
below.

Please reply to hime directly through email! 
His email address is shown. Thank you.

Thomas.
_________________________________________________________________

From:              Ken Koenig <kenk@edm.so.apl.cul.ca>
Authorizing-Users: Ken Koenig <kenk@edm.so.apl.cul.ca>
To:                <twong@civil.ubc.ca>
Cc:                <kenk@edm.so.apl.cul.ca>
Reply-To:          Ken Koenig <kenk@edm.so.apl.cul.ca>
Subject:           Employment in Hong Kong

>Mime-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII


Hello Thomas:

I don't have access to post any inqueries, but I have access to e-mail, and
I can read postings.  I was wondering if you could help me out by answering
a few questions on "employment in Hong Kong" for me, or refer me to someone
who can:
1) Can e-mail or posting be sent to Hong Kong? Do you have any addresses?
2) I am a caucasion male married to a Chinese girl and I have two children.
   We are considering moving to HK for a couple of years for a change of 
   pace and to visit other places in the orient.  I speak mainly English 
   and can speak a little Cantonese.  I am a Mechanical Engineer working
   for an electric utility for the past four years here in Edmonton.  
   i) Do you have any ideas as to whether I could be a possible candidate
      for a job there?
  ii) If so do you have any suggestions for companies I can apply to, and/or
      contacts?  I have looked through the Saturday South China Morning Post
      and there are so many jobs listed I don't know where to begin, except 
      for China Light and Power, (but do they hire English speaking people?).
 iii) What is the pay scale for Mechanical Engineers in HK?  Would I need
      any special work permits or licenses to practice there?
  iv) What would be the cost of living there on a monthly basis?

I hope you can help me out.

Thanks in advance.

(Dou-je!)

Ken Koenig
From: wchau@acsu.buffalo.edu (Wun-Chun Chau)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Chinese wife is good? (Was: Why? Why? Now I'm going to tell you why.)
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:09:25 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

In article <1992Oct1.005605.17734@oracle.us.oracle.com> glo@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (George Lo) writes:
>In article <97133@bu.edu> kingchun@buengf.bu.edu (Tsai King Chun) writes:
>>Yes, that's very true. However, you have to consider the consequences of
>>chasing a girl with boyfriend. You may be criticized by the community, as 
>
>If anyone tries to take away my girl-friend, his neck would be broken
>before the next morning.

What's good to take away your girl-friend? Bullshit! if she is really
yours, I mean, if she really love you that much that she would never live
without you, then there is nothing you have to worry about. On the other
hand, if she is just playing with you, SHIT! why not! I will go for her
tomorrow! come on, break my neck! :) think the only thing you can break is
your heart... doesn't mean to be cruel, just want to tell you the fact...
there is no way you can keep her from others' admiring if she is attractive
enough, well, maybe marriage do some help, but not much :)
Be realistic, my friend! if she is yours, she is yours; otherwise, ...
better luck next time :)

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