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Subject: List Alive? & Printing Letters

1.  I'm here [ that's more than 6 already ]

2.  We print out various types of letters with headed paper; on some we use
    an included PostScript file to generate the heading, on others we are
    using pre-printed paper.  In either case we use essentially the same
    technique; we use document templates with frames positioned at the
    appropriate positions on page 1, subsequent pages then print normally.

    The frames can be used to reserve extra space at left, right, top or bottom,
    according to your printed stationary, or can be used to position text or
    pictures in order to print headed letters on plain paper.

   The only snag we've hit is that typists must select File,New, and then
    select the correct template; applying the template after the document has
   been created doesn't work so well.
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Subject: Re: List alive? Back Issues?

Try the LETBLOCK template.  It asks you the letterhead
size and then formats the letter to accomodate a larger
top margin on the first page.  I haven't tested it, but
it looks as if it is the answer to your problem.

<pdpotter@uiowa.edu>

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I think there are more then that.  Word for Windows is just such a stable
product that it doesn't need support.

But really.  Is there a way in Word for Windows to set the second page
margins to be different then the first pages automaticly with out wasting a
page if it is only a one page letter.

Our typists are needing this.  I have designed a macro that when they tink
they need to go to the second page it sets it to the proper margins.  ie the
first page is letterhead second is plain paper.

Thanks alot.


In Message Tue, 5 Jan 93 23:01:48 -0400,
  jezsik@px2.stfx.ca (Louis Jezsik) writes:

>Pretty quiet around here, eh?  Has anyone checked to see
>just how many people are on this list?  (I got a sneaking
>suspition there are about six people.)
>Louis


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From: victor@cs.concordia.ca (KRAWCZUK victor)
Newsgroups: bit.mailserv.word-pc
Subject: Re: Microsoft!! ( fwd)
Date: 12 Jan 93 23:38:45 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec

In article <1993Jan12.001012.14231@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> georgewu@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca (WU/CHIH-CHAO/MR) writes:

>P.S. I sent the registration last September, but haven't heard anything
>yet from Microsoft Canada. Is that what usually happens?


Same here!!!! I sent in my registration for W4W in September.  I only
learned of the 2.0b bug fix through this Usenet group.  When I
phoned-up Microsoft Canada, they didn't even have my name typed into
their computer yet.  They sent me the upgrade eventually (apparently
it takes them 5 weeks to copy 6 diskettes).  Now I just learned that
2.0c was released.  Again, no notification from Microsoft Canada was
sent to me of the bug fix.  What can I say, I'm not terribly
impressed.


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  Indeed i am interested too. Is it possible that another newsgroup is
used for discussion on word?

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Ping!  This means that there is at least one appreciative member of the
list.
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how do i unsubscribe from this list..  what is the listserv address..
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In a posting Kristian Martinsen writes :
>
> The default settings of frames are with single line border, justify
> left, and text wrapping. How can I change this settings? When I for
> example wants: no border, justify center, and no text wrapping?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Kristian.
>
>
If I read you the correct way I should suggest the following.
To remove borders : put the cursor within the frame, choose Format, Borders
& select 'none'. Border will be removed.
You can change Frame attributes with Format Frame. You get a menu to change
the settings.
Good luck !

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From: g_tkacz@pavo.concordia.ca (TKACZ, GREGOIRE)
Subject: Word 2.0c
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Concordia University
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 01:15:00 GMT

Word 2.0b was apparently short-lived. By the time I decided to upgrade in
December from 2.0a to 2.0b, Microsoft actually sent me 2.0c. I'm aware of the
bug fixes and extra features of 2.0b, but I don't know what bug fixes and/or
features were added to 2.0c to warrant issuing another update only 2 months
after 2.0b's release.  I've noticed 2.0c has on-line help for former WP users,
but there must be more to it.  Could someone post or e-mail me the new features
of 2.0c?

Thanks.


"I think there is a world market for about five computers."
			
				Thomas J. Watson
				Chairman of the Board, IBM (1943)

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Subject: RE: A macro to change case? ( fwd )

From: Richard Brown (dickb) <dickb@microsoft.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 08:11:54 PST
Subject: RE: A macro to change case?

You don't need a macro. Just select the entire document
and press Shift+F3. That will toggle every word between
all caps, first letter cap, and no caps.

See pg. 151 of the Word User's Guide:

dick brown
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|From: Louis Jezsik  <netmail!jezsik@px2.stfx.ca>
|To:  <WORD-PC@ufobi1.uni-forst.gwdg.de>
|Subject: A macro to change case?
|Date: Tuesday, January 12, 1993 11:06
|
|I have an Excel worksheet that I have imported into Word so that
|I might be able to 'fix it up.'  It is a list of names, last then
|first and middle, all typed in upper case.  While it was easy for
|the original typist to type all caps, it is a real pain to read
|the thing later.  I tried to build a macro that would skip the
|first letter of each word and then change the case of all that
|followed.  Being a novice macro maker, I had NO idea how to do
|this.  Can anyone help me out here?
|Louis Jezsik
|jezsik@phoenix.stfx.ca
|
|

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From: "Thomas D. Gasser" <THOMASG@staff.tc.umn.edu>
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Subject: Re: List alive? Back Issues?

I think there are more then that.  Word for Windows is just such a stable
product that it doesn't need support.

But really.  Is there a way in Word for Windows to set the second page
margins to be different then the first pages automaticly with out wasting a
page if it is only a one page letter.

Our typists are needing this.  I have designed a macro that when they tink
they need to go to the second page it sets it to the proper margins.  ie the
first page is letterhead second is plain paper.

Thanks alot.


In Message Tue, 5 Jan 93 23:01:48 -0400,
  jezsik@px2.stfx.ca (Louis Jezsik) writes:

>Pretty quiet around here, eh?  Has anyone checked to see
>just how many people are on this list?  (I got a sneaking
>suspition there are about six people.)
>Louis


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    *  Thomas D. Gasser                                                 *
    *  Department of Neurosurgery                *******     ******     *
    *  University of Minnesota                    ***  *** *** ***      *
    *  (612) 624-4427                             ***   *****  ***      *
    *  E-Mail:  THOMASG@STAFF.TC.UMN.EDU         *****        *****     *
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Subject: Re: Ping!

>You have to send your SET NO MAIL command to a list other than
>WORD-PC@ufobi1.uni-forst.gwdg.de, but I don't remember the correct address.
 Can
>anyone help?

Send commands including SIGNOFF to

LISTSERV@ufobi1.uni-forst.gwdg.de                     SET WORD-PC NOMAIL
or
WORD-PC-request@ufobi1.uni-forst.gwdg.de              SET NOMAIL

Reinhold
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Subject: Figures
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 09:56:34 -0500
From: philhowr@unix.cie.rpi.edu
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X-Mts: smtp


I'm using WFW 2.0b and am finding the placement of figures to be a
struggle.  Here's what I'm doing:

The figure and its caption are enclosed together in a frame.  The
frames are all set to be centered horizontally without text wrapping.
Since I generally want figures to be at the tops of pages, I set the
vertical positioning to be at the top of the margin.

The problem comes in where there are figures closely spaced in the
document.  If they happen to appear on the same page, WFW happily
overlaps them and the PostScript printer prints the whole mess.  (This
usually happens after I've previewed and approved the printout,
pressed "print" and WFW repaginates. BTW the printer is a 1/2 hour
drive from the computer.)  How can I tell Word not to overlap the
frames?

Why don't I just go into the page layout view and manually position
the second figure below the first one?  I sometimes try that, usually
to no avail.  Quite often, since now more of the page is taken up by
figures, WFW moves the figure and its reference to the following page.
I end up with a figure in the middle of the page surrounded by text.
Aha! I say and move the figure up to the top of this new page.  WFW
isn't fooled and overprints the two figures again back on the original
page.

My only solution is to go into the normal view and cut/paste the
figure further along in the text so it is forced onto a later page.
However, this makes it harder to rearrange text later on and can
result in figures being printed on pages far from their references.


Robert Philhower		            (philhowr@unix.cie.rpi.edu)
Rensselaer Center for Integrated Electronics
CII 6111 / Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute / Troy, NY  12180 / USA
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 09:00:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Peter Coleman <pcoleman@offsv1.cis.mcmaster.ca>
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I have a problem with this list - I switched mailing addresses and
unfortunately the netwide delete I issued from my old host did not remove
my old id from the list so I now get 2 copies of all mail from this list.

Maybe the reason for little activity is because we find few problems with
Word!

Peter Coleman                (pcoleman@offsv1.cis.mcmaster.ca)
ABB 132
McMaster University          (416)529-7070x3856
Hamilton, Ontario


On Tue, 5 Jan 1993, Mike.Anthony@um.cc.umich.edu wrote:

> Ping!  This means that there is at least one appreciative member of the
> list.
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From:         DAVID CALDWELL <caldwell@CWBIO.BIOC.CWRU.EDU>
Subject:      Very simple questions...
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Hi all,

        A couple of very simple questions, but I can't seem to find the answers
in any of the stuff I have here...

        1.)     Is there a Unix version of GCG?  (We have the VMS version).

        2.)     How much does the GCG software cost?  How much do updates cost?

Replies by E-mail please.  Someone here is looking into buying the GCG software
package; he would also buy a machine to run it on.  Any recommendations would
be appreciated.

...David Caldwell
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Subject:      Profile-type search over the net

Hello;

        I was wondering if there is anyway to do profile searches on the
most up-to-date databases via the net.  Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Joe Kramer
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From:         Foteos Macrides <MACRIDES@WFEB2.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: GCG Blast shell question
Comments: To: info-gcg@utoronto.bitnet

In article <01GT4EPEJ7T400007S@SCI.WFEB.EDU>, "Charles A. Alexander" <charles@ME
   DINFO.ROCHESTER.EDU> writes:
> Hello
>
> This question is not directly related to GCG but it may apply to some users ou
   t
> there.
>
> The users here are using the VMS Shells written by Drs.Clark and Macrides to
> automatically submit a sequence to the NCBI BLAST server using BLASTN.
>
> The problem we are encountering is that if we drop the CUTOFF SCORE below the
> default BLAST value, the search does not return a result with "hits".  We had
   to
> drop the CUTOFF SCORE to allow reporting of results for a short ( 15-mer)
> sequence.
>
> However, if the search is submitted manually with the same values for the
> parameters as in the automated search, there are positive results.
>
> I have looked through the DCL Shell command lines and am at a lost to explain
   if
> it is indeed a problem with the Shells.  Any clues?  Maybe the authors are
> reading?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Charles Alexander
>
> Div.of Medical Informatics
> University of Rochester, Rochester, New  York
> Internet:Charles@Medinfo.Rochester.Edu
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> AT&Tnet:(716) 275-0643

        My shell (BLASTNCBI.COM) explicitly sets EXPECT (Expectation Cuttoff,
Parameter E) to the normal default value of 10, and by default does not
specify a CUTOFF (Parameter S) value, so that CUTOFF will be calculated to an
appropriate value based on the value of EXPECT.  Charles' 15-mer generated the
following error message:


FATAL:  The maximum achievable score with this query sequence is only 75,
        whereas the cutoff score for reporting HSPs is 80.  You might lower
        the cutoff score or use a different scoring scheme.


EXIT CODE 16


Based on my reading of the server's HELP file, I thought the most appropriate
thing to do under such circumstances is to *increase* EXPECT (e.g., to its
maximum of 1000) but still let CUTOFF be calculated by virtue of not
specifying it.  This strategy works (generates lots of hits for the 15-mer),
but if it's not the best way to do it, perhaps someone could explain what is.

                                Fote

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From:         "Charles A. Alexander" <charles@MEDINFO.ROCHESTER.EDU>
Subject:      GCG Blast shell question
Comments: To: INFO-GCG@utoronto.bitnet

Hello

This question is not directly related to GCG but it may apply to some users out
there.

The users here are using the VMS Shells written by Drs.Clark and Macrides to
automatically submit a sequence to the NCBI BLAST server using BLASTN.

The problem we are encountering is that if we drop the CUTOFF SCORE below the
default BLAST value, the search does not return a result with "hits".  We had to
drop the CUTOFF SCORE to allow reporting of results for a short ( 15-mer)
sequence.

However, if the search is submitted manually with the same values for the
parameters as in the automated search, there are positive results.

I have looked through the DCL Shell command lines and am at a lost to explain if
it is indeed a problem with the Shells.  Any clues?  Maybe the authors are
reading?

Thanks in advance

Charles Alexander

Div.of Medical Informatics
University of Rochester, Rochester, New  York
Internet:Charles@Medinfo.Rochester.Edu
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