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From: verma@pfeast.enet.dec.com (Virendra Verma)
Subject: Re: A Passage from the Rig Veda
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 28 JAN 93 08:43:17    


In article <1993Jan26.223646.2247@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>, akash@crescent.berkeley.edu (Akash R. Deshpande) writes...
>In article <93025.224755RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET>, <RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:

	Very good approach. Thanks.
> 
>Seems to me that the delight and essence are tangible to the senses,
>Indra being the lord of the senses (Indriya).

	A psychological or philosophical meaning of Indra is 'mind'.

	Also, if a god is less talked about in rig-veda does not mean
	that it is not important or insignificant. It is done puposely
	because the invocation of such a god is not necessary in that
	context.

namaste,

-- Virendra Verma
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From: lahiri@pion.lanl.gov (Amitabha Lahiri  505-667-6825)
Subject: Re: Indian Musical Instruments
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab
Distribution: soc.culture.indian
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:54:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.211112.5447@chpc.utexas.edu> byab314@chpc.utexas.edu  
(Srinivas Bettadpur) writes:
>    On a slightly tangential but related note, I know of a friend
> here who found it impossible to get hold of left-handed instruments,
> specifically the stringed variety.  Apparently, there is no
> provision for left-handed players in the Indian instruments, unlike
> a guitar, for example (a la Jimi Hendrix).  Is this correct ?
>                                                  Srinivas

It is possible to get left-handed instruments, but you will have to 
talk to the people who make these things, and put in a special order.
Ustad Alauddin Khan was left-handed on the sarod (probably also on
the violin).

--
Amitabha Lahiri, e-mail:lahiri@pion.lanl.gov
Disclaimer: No one else is responsible for what I say, and vice versa.
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From: godura@dwalin.cis.udel.edu (Ruchir Godura)
Subject: Re: U.S. Citizen NRIs Please leave India alone (Re: BJP)
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:49:37 GMT

>Virendra Verma writes:
>>	Yes. India is identified with Vedas and BJP-like mentality. Without
>>	it, it has no identity as has been going on for the last 45 years.
>
>	
>
>>	India has to regain its identity first and only then it will be
>>	on the path of progress. Western thinking and technology is not
>                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>	good for Indian culture where both religion and science progress
>>	on equal grounds.      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
ARRRGHHH !! Fafat, my sincerest apologies to you for throwing a spanner
in your Worma-bashing works !!
Thees guy ( as in hindi for cow ) is giving me the jeetaars !!
Am feeling kind of depressed nowadays .. no political party in India
seems worth supporting. 
Even arguing about all these things seems worthless. These are bad days
for India.
Guess they'll just have to wait for me to finish up here and head home
to set things right :-(


Ruchir.

-- 
Ruchir Godura | godura@cis.udel.edu | (302) 731-4123 (H) (302) 831-1949 (W)
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From: parthas@vms.ucc.okstate.edu
Subject: Address wanted
Organization: Oklahoma State University Computer Center
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:13:42 GMT

Hi
I want to subscribe to India-D.
Can someone please send me the address to which i should send
some mail to get subscribed.  Thanks
Bala
My email address is parthas@doug.nmsu.edu
Bye...

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From: ali@sim2server.mentorg.com (Aliasgar Haveliwala)
Subject: Mumbai Riots
Originator: ali@sim2server
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:45:13 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics Corporation; Beaverton, Oregon
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

>>Following is the mail I received from one of my friends about Mumbai riots:

>>I was in Bombay from the 18th of Dec to the 16th of Jan.  From what I saw
>>and heard Shiv Sena saved Bombay.  You ask anybody and they would say the
>>same.  The Muslims had planned to burn down Mazgaon dock (property and 
>>people)  They were armed with AK47s.  Most hindu areas were armed with
>>petrol bombs to protect themselves if these Muslim fanatics came by.
>>In Tardeo Muslim fanatics dressed in police uniforms shot a couple of 
>>people in the night.  It was a drive by shooting.  Belive me a lot
>>of shit happened.  On the 9th of Jan I saw parts of Bombay burning from
>>Malabar Hill.  I live there.  A couple of cars were burned outside the
>>governers bungalow.   A lot of politics was involved...


Piece of bull shit, balloney. Propaganda I must say. 
I was in Bombay too and my house had constantly been pursued by 
the goons. I have personal relatives who have been looted from the
poshest areas of town too. 

Talking of Tardeo, do you have any idea of which shops were burnt.
Go check dude!! You seem to have a soft corner for those goons.
If the person lived in Malabar Hill, does he have any idea as to 
which shops were burnt. What about all the furniture shops.

Give me a break. Go talk to people who are affected than to believe
your Marathi newspapers.

The bottom line is "" The citizens of Bombay have to take back the 
city from these savage, barbaric goons. I calls these goons the 
Shiv Sena"
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From: thai@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Sankaran Thayumanavan)
Subject: religion
Summary: religion
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:41:27 GMT
Keywords: religion


Hallo!

i got this mail from my friend.  just thought i would post it.  
if you are too religious, you might not want to read this.
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 Short Guide To Comparative Religion
Taoism:  Shit happens.
Confucianism:  Confucius say, "Shit happens"
Islam:  If shit happens, it is the will of Allah.
Buddhism:  If shit happens, it isn't really shit.
Roman Catholicism:  Shit happens because you are bad.
Calvinism:  Shit happens because you don't work hard enough.
Judaism:  Why does this shit always happen to me?
Lutheranism:  If shit happens, have faith, and it will stop happening.
Presbyterianism:  If shit has to happen, let it happen to some one else.
Zen Buddhism:  What is shit anyway
Jesuitism:  If shit happens and nobody hears it, did it really make a sound?
Christian Science:  If shit happens, don't worry; it will go away on its own.
Hedonism:  When shit happens, enjoy it.
Seventh Day Adventism:  Shit happens every day but Saturday.
Hare Krishna:  Shit happens.  Rama, rama ohm, ohm.
Rastafarianism:  Let's smoke this shit.
Hinduism:  This shit happened before.
Mormonism:  This shit happened before, and it's going to happen again.
Atheism:  Shit doesn't happen.
Agnosticism:  Maybe shit happens, and Maybe it doesn't.
Stoicism:  So shit happens.  Big deal I can take it.
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disclaimer: my friend sent this to me.  he got it from another friend. we
don't know the source of it.  if it was posted in this net before. well!
read it again.  unknown source is acknowledged.  my employer does not 
have any connections with this.

bye,
thai
From: srik@cs.arizona.edu (Srikanth Raghavan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Fafat and SAWNET ....
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:43:06 GMT



#In article <1jphefINNgja@phakt.usc.edu>, fafat@phakt.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat) writes:
#> Srik [of Allah fame] writes:
#	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
#	
#	Sometimes I used to worry that someone might issue an order for
#my head. It sure would have made some people happy. RAmblings, ramblings ....
#
#
#> 
#> >#	my sympathies!
#> >#	But FFT, truthless. FFT, is it u she is referring to here, really?
#> >#	Allah! tell me it is not true!
#> 
#> 	well, I *could* say, "not true" but since I've already been branded
#> 	"truthless", that statement would be self-defeating. I'd rather say,
#> 	"It's true" :):)
#> 
#> >#be careful it could easily be interpreted as such, what with Uma already
#> >#receiving mails questioning the authenticity of SAWNET. :-) I think it would 
#> >#have been worthwhile if you had transcribed an article 'Writing on the Wall'
#> >#which appeared in the latest PlayBoy issue and posted it on SCI. I would
#> 
#> 	huh? HUH? Whaddya think we are all dirty boys reading such much
#> 	magazines?? You beware. I am you warned.
#
#	Fafat you are truly a gentleman, take the credit and the blame.
#	I admire your chivalry and take this opportunity to wash my hands
#	off the entire "sneaky posts of SAWNET" episode. May the perpetrators
#	and the audience they are catering to enjoy themselves (which seems
#	to be the same :-), but Allah knows betterr). 
#
#> 
#> 	FFT [all work no play(boy) makes Jack a dull boy]
#	    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
#
#	U r smart! Anyway I was wondering if the feminists had something
#against Playboy being advertised as the "Magazine for men". Truly shouldn't
#they leave  it for us to decide, expecially with not everyone in the world
#being heterosexual these days. Yeah! right, Srik is a dirty boy!
#
#	Anyway back to Allah, and this time I am going to discuss the 
#Bhagavad Gita (which my mother so thoughtfully sent along with me)
#with him/her (to appease the feminists).
#
#-srik
#
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From: lahiri@pion.lanl.gov (Amitabha Lahiri  505-667-6825)
Subject: Re: fabricated posts ("sneaky posts" a la Vijay Fafat)
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:31:37 GMT

In article <2464@newsserver.cs.uwindsor.ca> rangana@cs.uwindsor.ca  
(RANGANATHAN A            ) writes:
>  ;-). Amitabha maybe you should join us feminazis ;-).

Sorry, I am not a `joiner'. ;-) And I don't like the word `feminazi'
either (so sue me).
 
> See simplicity in the complicated
> 	- Lao Tzu

Isn't it the other way around? :-)
Q: How many `tao's can one take to change a lightbulb?
A: Three. One to change it, one not to change it, and one to take neither.
--
Amitabha Lahiri, e-mail:lahiri@pion.lanl.gov
Disclaimer: No one else is responsible for what I say, and vice versa.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: uipooper@bcars123.bnr.ca (UI Pooper 2)
Subject: Sankhaya Yoga - taken from the Geeta
Organization: bnr.ca
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:26:50 GMT

Someone asked what is Sankhaya Yog? 
This is explained in Chapter 2 of the Geeta ("Book of Doctines").
In my opinion this sums up the Sankhya Yog:

   "Knowing thy duty, thy task
    Thou bidds't duty and task remain incomplete
     That is sin"
From: dpereira@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: For Florida GATORS only!
Date: 21 Jan 93 12:09:38 EST
Organization: Univ of Miami IR


Hey Gators!  What's the scoop on the Center for Vision and Visualization in
the CIS department?  Can you recommend any professors, or give me any other
information.  I'd appreciate it!

A curious 'Cane

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: radiab@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: Re: Avoid this Travel Agent
Organization: University of Lowell
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:05:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan19.163213.23400@linus.mitre.org>, rajiv@hilltop.mitre.org (Rajiv Kohli) writes:
> The name of the Travel Agency is "Comfor Travel of Manhattan"
> 
> Avoid this agency at all cost if you ever want to reach your 
> destination.
> 
> We booked our tickets in Sept for travel on Christmas day.
> All the time the agency kept saying was that the tickets are
> confirmed and we will bill you only two weeks prior to departure
> to avoid early payment. FINE
> 
> The truth was that we were on a waiting list from Paris to Delhi
> and back to Paris. 
> 
> How did I find out? I just happened to call Air France by
> intuition and they clearly told me to make alternate plans.
> 
> Then she asked for the money. I asked her to confirm the tickets first
> and she gave me this big mumbo-jumbo about "blocks reserved" etc. FINE,
> then unblock those seats and send me my tickets. It is only 10 days left
> for departure. OH! as soon as we receive your payment we will unblock it.
> But that is what she said for the deposit too. I pay only by visa and 
> when I faxed her the authorization I put a condition - "authorization
> conditional to confirmation of flights or travel agency bears the
> cost of inconvienence"
> 
> Guess what! When I called she didn't want to come to the phone
> for she was always busy - 3 days later I get a check in the mail
> for my $300 of deposit with a note
> 
> - "This is not the way we do business - I am returning your
> deposit of USD 300" - signed Kanchan
> 
> Give her my compliments and yours if you can. Her number is (212)213-1313
> Tell her how you would avoid using her in the future
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Rajiv Kohli		Email: rajiv@mbunix.mitre.org Tel: (617) 271-3506
> Mitre Corporation 	Intelligence System Integration and Support
> 202 Burlington Road 	Bedford, MA-01730 Mail Stop: K 306
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> / // /_______|_|_|__________/_/_\ \_______________________________\\_______
> -------------------------------------------- Play Cricket ----------------- 

I had the same experience with "RAJ TRAVELS" of New York.....AVOID AT ALL COSTS

Bimal radia
email: "radia@bcvms.bc.edu"

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From: ravic@austin.ibm.com ()
Subject: Start with a clean slate
Originator: ravic@venture.austin.ibm.com
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:14:03 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: IBM Austin


In article <1993Jan21.152014.28484@bnr.ca> you write:
>India should ignore all this crapmost of the Pak statememts. (
>Anyway its produced
>by the policians for the internal consumption. Of course
>we should provide security to minorities like never before.
>Anyone born in India is a citizen of India and should be
>accorded equal rights and oportunities. What Babar did or
>Ganzi did was in the past, nobody should have to pay for 
>it now. Babar and Gazni were vandals first and then anything
>else. I doubt if Muslims in India like what they did!!! 

  I agree with you, let us start with a uniform civil code. All this
  talk means nothing otherwise. Let us get rid of all religious 
  qualifications from the constitution.

-- 
   Ravindra                   "If anything, what do rituals bring to religion?"
      
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh
From: an5584@anon.penet.fi (Salman Rushdie)
Subject: ********SALMAN RUSHDIE************
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:49:21 GMT

Hip Hip Hurry!!!!!!!!!


Now Salman Rushdie has invaded the s.c.i.


See what will happen now.


Love and Peace-
Rushdie
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From: an3925@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Ifran Ahmed say very bad things about Nimmala
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:30:31 GMT


X-Anon-To: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh

Dear Ifran Ahmed,

It is very bad to call Nimmala gay. Islam does not teach this. Nimmala
is only happy, not homosexual like many Hindus in India and Sonar Banglis.
Deb Chutter wants to become Nimmala room-mate because he gay.
He is idiot....that is why India put Agni missile on his behind and
shoot him to Kansas :-)))))))))))))))))))))))

MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ZUBERI
imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu
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From: dj@research.egr.duke.edu (Devendra Jalihal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Sending e-mails to IIT Madras
Date: 28 Jan 93 05:54:24 GMT
Organization: Duke University EE Dept.; Durham, NC

I have been trying to reach IIT Madras by e-mail for the past two weeks.
My system here seems to send the mail. But I have this nagging suspicion
that they are not getting there. I was told that over the month of December,
India has changed its addressing style. I wonder if that has something to
do with my inability to get a response from IITM. I am using 
"eedept!xxx@iitm.ernet.in" type of addressing. It had worked for me
before. Am I doing anything wrong? Please send me e-mails.

-Devendra
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From: dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: BJP
Date: 21 Jan 93 11:30:41 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1993Jan20.212527@IASTATE.EDU>, jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan) writes:
> 
> I've always wondered why BJP supporters always put ties with Israel
> at the top of their list, sometimes even higher than ties with the US.
> Reasons ranging from unprecedented import of Israeli technological wonders and
> ofcourse their famed methods of fighting terrorism are bandied about.
>  
> The fact that they are fighting the common enemy: the "Mozzzlems" perhaps plays
> only a small part.
> 
> --Javed.
> 
>

  Javed, don't be so paranoid. BJP has its own agenda - that you might hate to
  associate with. But, that does not imply that BJP will revise and do what
  the JKLF forces want to say. In fact BJP has the correct attitude in dealing
  with the JKLF terrorists (or are they to be reckoned as heroes ?) - that is
  supported by Pakistan.

    - regards,

     deb chatterjee
   (a good samaritan)
From: rajain@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: hee! hee! hee! hee! Hey! Doku....Guess who ?? :-)
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:36:40 GMT


Isn't it ironical that:

	Janm Bhoomi (birth-place)
	
		turned 
		
			out

			    to

				be

			Maran Bhoomi (death-place)


Things that make us (hindooooos 'n moooooslims) go ...... HMMMMM!!!!!

Ciao,

rAjAt...

PS: YES! I am baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack !!! :-) :-)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: fb78@sol.acs.unt.edu (Ganesh Gopalakrishnan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Re: AFFORDABLE DENTISTS IN NY/NJ AREA ??
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:44:21 GMT
Organization: University of North Texas

rgm4@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Raghuram G Murtugudde) writes:

> Does anybody know of an affordable dentist in the NY/NJ area? I am a student
                          ^^^^^^^^^^
> would appreciate any info and personal references.

> Thank you in advance....

HA! HA!! HA!!! . Try "volunteering" at a nearby Dental School. If you
are lucky, you could end up recruited by an advanced student with 1-2
years left who will give you the dental "works" - gold fillings etc and
it will cost you practically nothing (esp if you are a student).

Otherwise, best of TOUGH luck. Medicine, including dental,
operates here strictly on the basis of "money first, medicine next"!

- ganesh


> Raghu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sramacha@skat.usc.edu (Sudarshan Ramachandran)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: A Passage from the Rig Veda
Date: 24 Jan 1993 13:47:18 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu

Bcase words:

>     chutney these days, and when he is not EVEsdropping, he is enjoying
                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^

     if Eve had been a tropical bird (no pun), is that what he would be ? :)



     [now *I* am in deep sh*t, no?  :) :) ]


     -- Neednofix  ;)




Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: aditya@iedv7.acd.com ( Aditya Khatuka (ICTT) )
Subject: Green Card/Citizenship Question
Organization: Applied Computing Devices, Inc., Terre Haute IN
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:33:11 GMT

Hello,

        I was wondering if someone can help me with :

1. Can one switch job after green card interview but before getting the green card ? ( It usually takes 6-8 weeks to get green card in mail).

2. What are the rules for applying for US Citizenship after getting Green Card. Can one with US citizenship work/do business in India ? Any idea about the visa requirments when working/visiting India.


thanks

Aditya

bskhatu@indsvax1.indstate.edu
From: ghosh@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Sanjoy Ghosh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: (misleading) Indian Express Advertisement re: RJB
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:49:02 GMT
Organization: Univ of Illinois, Center for Supercomputing R&D, Urbana, IL

(Samit Banerjee) writes:

>>(B.V. Jagadeesh) writes:

>The choice of the word "Hindu" by the original poster
>may not be factually correct, 
 
>So before you accuse sombody of lying, atleast get your facts right.

Ah!  Its okay for Mr Jagadeesh to not be factually correct, but I
must atleast get my facts right.

Okay, anything you say,
Sanjoy Ghosh