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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 11:47:10 -0500
From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: No Cameras Allowed

>Question: I'm going to see Emmy Lou and i'll be on the 3rd row, so i was
>gonna take a camera. The back of the ticket says No Camera...etc, i wonder
>what will happen if i sneak it in and at least get one picture, will they
>take my camera (if so can i borrow yours) or just say no-no. Has anyone
>done this.............L.W.

My ex-boyfriend snuck a camera into the Atlantic Records 40th Anniversary
concert when we went. We were lucky and he got 6 rolls of pictures without
getting caught, but when they caught the people near us, they took out and
exposed the film, then confiscated the camera. The people could pick up the
camera after the concert at the security desk. They also searched the
people to see if they had any other cameras hidden on them. it can be done,
but be careful. I'm sure there are some shows where they don't give back
the camera....
Marsha J. Ferziger
University of Chicago School of Law
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From: hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra)
Subject: Re: hi to everybody from Marco (no OMC)
Organization: Department of Philosophy, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 17:21:35 GMT

To Mike "triple M" Masuda: last week you wondered if anyone of us knew where
Marco was.  I just received an email in which he said he would be moving to
SF tomorrow (10th).  I know SF is big, so I'm not sure if this is of any
help, but I'd thought I'd mention it anyway...

And to all you ALLmusickerz -- how in heavensname do you all find the time
to read all the mail goin' on around here -- 'bout 80 a day right now!
I don't even have time to do a quick scan thru all of it... Let alone *read*
all of it :(.  Sometimes wondering if there are people out there who also 
have some regular work (you know, labour, the stuff that brings in the 
money, right? :) to do.  Probably not...  

C'me on, tell me yer zekretz Ivan...

And, admittedly a bit late, but who cares: a very happy, healthy, inspiring,
creative, musically satisfying, fertile and otherwise enjoyable 1993 to
all ALLMUSIC readers and writers.


--
Hendrik Jan Veenstra    hjv@phil.ruu.nl  *  How can I save my dreams
Dept. of Philosophy                      *  in the nightmare, in the flood
University of Utrecht                    *  But I try.
The Netherlands                          *
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 12:49:08 EST
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Free country?? I'd beg to differ...

On Thu, 7 Jan 1993 09:29:15 PST Mike said:
>what instrument is the STRANGEST instrument you have ever heard
>in a song, and which song was it featured in?
>
Probably a mouth bow.  Used all over the place; I saw it with "crossover"
Hesperus.  Song was "The Johnson Boys" (shame, shame on the Johnson Boys)

>what is the most bizarre instrument you have ever heard play music?
>(the one that make you say, "what the hell is that contraption?")
>Please describe the instrument in detail, if you can.  I may plan to
>build one.  ;)
>
Easy.  Futureman's drumitar.  Indescribable, however.
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:07:16 EDT
From:         RAYMCA@MOREKYPR.BITNET
Subject:      re:"who recorded this song"

Judy,

   That song is called "All You Zombies" by a group called, get this,
"The Hooters"....

   And, get this, my boyfriend is a big fan...

WAY!!!

                              --Cathy
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:39:32 -0500
From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      New Thread....

Hi folks....

When I used to do radio, we had a music marathon (88.5 hrs of straight
music!) Some of the late-nite hours were called "Waste of Vinyl". Our
Station Supervisors would play some of the really crappy stuff we had in
the library for as long as they could stand it, then rip it off the
turntables and break the record on the air (can you tell how long ago I did
this show???Vinyl????) Anyway, I'm curious what you folks would nominate as
wastes of vinyl....or magnetic tape, or whatever CD's are made
of......Should give you something to think about at work....


Marsha

Marsha J. Ferziger
University of Chicago School of Law
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 12:13:19 -0500
From:         Tom Frenkel <frenkel@CUCIS.CIS.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Rick Danko

Hope this works... our regular mailer is kaput.  I heard Danko a couple
of years ago at Wetlands in New York.  He shared the bill with Eric
Andersen and someone else, and they did a lot of stuff together.  I
wish Danko had sung alone more, though, because he was terrific.
Definitely recommended.

By the way, I'm still looking for a Danko solo album he made quite a
while ago... if anyone could find it for me in any medium (lp or cassette
or CD) I would be very happy!

        Tom Frenkel (frenkel@cucis.cis.columbia.edu)
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:05:58 MEZ
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From:         Hosko <RMCB@DLRVM.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Microbrew or bust/Cheap shots on Friday

>>The correct version is (in Bavarian dialect):
>>
>>    "Oans, zwoa, szufa"
>>
>>Translated to german it becomes:
>>
>>    "Eins, zwei, saufen"

>Gruess Gott, Hosko. . . but how about the *rest* of the lyrics, eh?  (-:

I'm working in it, give me a day or so.

Hosko
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 08:30:59 MEZ
From:         Hosko <RMCB@DLRVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Incredible String Band

  Towards the end of last year someone on the list wanted to know what
CDs by 'The Incredible String Band' were available. When I went into
town (Munich) over Xmas I took a look to see what I cound find, and
discovered the following. I did not look in the CD catalog to see the
full list, the CDs here are simply those that I found in the racks:

   On Air
  *The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter
  *The 5000 Spirits
   No Ruinous Feud
   Earthspan
   BBC Radio 1 Live In Concert
  *Wee Tam
  *Liquid Acrobat As Reguards The Air

Those marked with a (*) were cheapos costing about 2/3 the normal price.
I must say that I didn't expect to find so many.

Hosko
From: bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston)
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Subject: Strange instruments (and DUH!)
Date: 8 Jan 1993 07:36:45 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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In a previous article, bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston) says:

>  Not at all indescribable, Ken. It would take a while to describe in
>detail though. It's basically a mostly-gutted SynthAxe (the thing that 
>Holdsworth used/uses -- I'll explain that in a sec)...

  ... and then I spaced out on the homemade DIY SynthAxe. Some days
you should just stay in bed.

  Holdsworth has apparently "all but abandoned" the troublesome SynthAxe
in favor of a new controller made by a San Diego-based company, Starr Switch.
This comes by way of Paolo Valladolid, an Atavachron subscriber who saw this
in the lastest issue of Guitar Player magazine (which I intended to pick up
today, but the guitar shop here in town has new post-holiday hours of noon
to 9 p.m., and public transit here in town leaves much to be desired... a
long story, ramble, ramble, ramble). 
  Other Holdsworth news: His instructional video is out on REH. That was 
the other thing I was going to see about at the guitmo shop. One of the
Atavachronites has picked up his copy and is pretty impressed with at 
least the theoretical aspects of Allan's instructional methods; he's a
mathematics professor (I think that's what he said), and says there's
some really interesting math involved in Holdsworth's intervallic 
selections. Can't wait to blow $50 on this baby.

  Jeff ("n.n.")

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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 12:52:22 CST
From:         Leonard Watkins <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Who would you choose?
              6 Jan 1993 12:43:14 EST from <Adam.Levin@LAMBADA.OIT.UNC.EDU>

On Wed, 6 Jan 1993 12:43:14 EST Adam Levin said:
>[...]
>> Fabulous Thunderbirds
>[...]
>Methinks the T-Birds are splitsville. They lost their CBS recording
>contract and I heard the other day that Duke Robillard is back in New
>England with a new band. The ad had him listed as a "former memberof of
>the Fabulous Thunderbirds. Of course, I could be wrong.

I saw the T-birds last year and Robillard didn't do a whole lot of playing
it was mostly the Kid i foget his last name, but he's good....L.W.
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:01:35 CST
From:         Leonard Watkins <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      MTV

I have a question i don't watch MTV at all, but i noticed several post
that mentioned Peter Gabrial being on MTV, I was under the impression
(from some of the posts) that the Allmusic'rs were not approving of MTV artists
I'm not saying anything derogatory about P.G. i'm just wondering what you
think of him being on there, he's also in Billboard's top 50 (maybe 40).
I personally don't have a problem with any of my favorites being on MTV or
Billboard's Top 40 (Clapton, SRV,...etc), they could be on whatever they
want and i still like them and would probally like P.G. if i give him a
listen, just wondering what the anti-MTV and P.G. fans thought.....L.W.

P.S. No flames please
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:23:00 N
From:         "Out,
              out - you'll not feel the fall-out..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      Goodbye for a while, and my awards

So...
        less than 48 hours separate me from the plane which will finally
carry me overseas to your land (well, the land of most of you!).
        I'll have the chance to see some of you over there, but I will be
silent for a couple of weeks. Behave yourself while I'm away :), and do
not start too interesting topics (I won't unsubscribe, so if you do I will
jump in with huge delay when I'm back... :) ).
        Thanks to those who put my name in the 1992 awards list. Of course,
before leaving, I can't resist the temptation of filling in my own version.
So:

>1. Rising star or revelation of the year.
        Sonia Kovitz

>2. Wittiest poster.  (Rolling on the Floor Laughing Prize)
        I have a fond memory of a "n.n." post about a mike and "no bull"...

>3. Most consistent initiator & promoter of dialogue. (Threadmaker Award)
        Mike Masuda

>4. Funkiest poster.
        ROTCOD ZZAJ, aka Dick Metcalf

>5. Nastiest poster (Painful Plague Prize)
        Ruxpin - unbeaten and unbeatable

>6. Friendliest and kindest Allmusicker.
        This one is tough! My vote goes to Hendrik Jan Veenstra, since he's
the only member of the list I've met so far. And I can't forget all the fa-
vours which Seb Welton made to me. Neither I should forget when John bought
me an E-bow before I sent him the money. And when Rachel sent me... OK, you're
*nearly* all great. No way out...

>7. Clueless poster award. (Frippie Prize)
        The Bloom: he's clueless by definition :). Seriously, L.W. when he
shoots from the hip.

>8. Grossest musical mistake in a post.  (Ignoramus Prize, aka Renato Barahona
>Award for misattribution of _Ionisation_)


>9. Most original review of a tape, album or CD.
        Reverend Bob "Bob" Crispen, with his "Italian porno film reverb" re-
ferred to our album "The Chessboard". Absolutely magnificent. ;)

>10. Sexiest poster.  (Libby Doe Prize)
        Carol! 8:-)-8->---|

>11. Most playful poster.
        Sonia, again.

>12. Best Allmusic flamer.
        "n.n." vs L.W.

>13. Most astonishing confession or personal revelation.
        "n.n." & Madonna, I seem to remember.

>14. Strangest Allmusic post.
        When L.W., after having been SEVERELY flamed, tried to convince us
he had been on holiday and somebody else had used his terminal.

>15. Classiest Allmusicker.
        John McIntyre.

>16. Most dazzling all-around poster.
        Michael Bloom.

>17. Keeper of the Allmusic flame award.  (To the person who epitomizes
>the spirit & ideals -- whatever they might be -- of the list.  This is the
>highest honor that can be accorded an Allmusicker.)
        He's a non-poster. Or at least, he doesn't post much: Mike tlg -- do
not forget about him!

        Ciao and hugs to everyone!
        Marco

P.S.: the non-mentioned ones are vital to the list, though...
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:40:32 CST
From:         Leonard Watkins <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: MTV

On Fri, 8 Jan 1993 10:28:35 EST spideroni said:
>with regards to the reverand's comments that a theme video destroys the
>possibility of alternative interpretations, i concede that that can and
>has happened. visual memory tends to be more vivid than aural memory.
>but i'd rather at least have an idea of what the artist thinks the song
>is about than five minutes of stage show. and regardless of what the
>artist's intent of the song is, i can always interpret it as i will.

I'm not sure it's always (key word here is always) the artist interpre..etc
sometimes i think the director/producer has more say so what goes in a video
than the artist....L.W.
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:16:20 CST
From:         Paul Heroy <HEROY@LSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Dizzy Gillespie - RIP (sob)

I just heard the bad news on JAZZ-L - Dizzy has died of cancer :-(

The world has lost another great one, and a really wonderful ambassador
to everyone for the music. The man with the cheeks is gone. He won't be
forgotten anytime soon - his music and all those he touched personally with
his warmth, love and friendliness will keep him alive in hearts and souls
(where it really matters, after all) for a long time.

Thank you, Dizzy, for all that you gave us. We were fortunate to be here to
hear.

Paul
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:01:21 EST
From:         jc-s <GE777009@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: One-hits/Rain

>From:         HLC2@PSUADMIN.BITNET
>
>>> A Mr. Buck-Naked just asked: "Does anybody know of any one-hit wonders that
>   talk about rain?"
>
>How about "Life in a Northern Town" by The Dream Academy?  I know they've done
>two or three (maybe four) albums total, but I don't think they ever had
>another "hit" after this one.  (Rev. Dave? You were there; do you remember?)
>
>Heather

no. absolutely not. there will NOT be a discussion of
rain songs again.

yours truly,

list dominatrix 'nippin' this in the bud' (no dope jokes please)
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:34:08 -0500
From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      One-Hit Wonders

Lenny's post about Terrence Trent-D'Arby and Mike Masuda (who flatters me
too much!)'s dare to start threads prompts this post....

How many "one-hit wonders" do you remember. Now, I know you guys don't
listen to much top-40, but this can be anything. A jazz artist with one
decent song, a metal group who made a grea album and then was nevcer heard
from again....Her are some Top-40 examples from my childhood....

Toni Basil "Mickey"
Michael something-or-another "Maniac" from _Flashdance_ - remember that?
Gloria Gaynor "I Will Survive"

etc. I'm curions what y'all wuld come up with...

Oh, Lenny, this morning I awoke to "Money Baroney" on the oldies station on
my clock-radio. I then put in the Japanese Rockapella albums that I just
got. Good stuff....

Marsha

Marsha J. Ferziger
University of Chicago School of Law
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:07:06 EST
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Microbrew or bust/Cheap shots on Friday

On Mon, 11 Jan 1993 10:36:15 MEZ Hosko said:
>>>From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
>>>Subject:      Microbrew or bust
>>>
>>> Oh, all right:  OMC:
>>> "In Muenchen staedt ein Hofbrauhaus,
>>> Ein, zwei, szgufa"
>
>>From:         Michael H. Bloom <MHB@MITVA.BITNET>
>>Subject:      Cheap shots on Friday
>>
>>You got that wrong, it's "Ein, zwei, sfiga!"
>
>Actually you're both wrong, but Ken is closer. You're both mixing german
>with Bavarian. The correct version is (in Bavarian dialect):
>
>    "Oans, zwoa, szufa"
>
>Translated to german it becomes:
>
>    "Eins, zwei, saufen"
>
>
>Pferti God, Hosko (30 km west of Munich)

Gruess Gott, Hosko. . . but how about the *rest* of the lyrics, eh?  (-:
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 11:03:49 PST
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From:         Mike <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: One-hit wonders/Rain songs

>Does anybody know of any one hit wonders that talk about rain?
>
>                                           ;-)
>
>                                                Tom "Buck-Naked" Buck

STOP IT! STOP IT! STOP IT!    ;)

Mike



    RE: One-hit wonders/Rain songs                                          -0
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 12:30:32 EST
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: tous les matins du monde

On Sat, 2 Jan 1993 17:23:18 EST <MMORSE@YORKVM1> said:
>All I can say is, if "early music" on "period instruments" is
>crass marketing move anywhere in the world, then we have proof
>positive that the despicable anti-intelectualism of the last
>12 years is finally gonna take a breather..
>Michael

I confess to total bebafflefuddlement on this one:  are you for or agin "EM on
PI"?
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:51:00 GMT
From:         Gary Hanley <0005642089@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      RE: What is there for an escalator to bring to him?

Hmmm, Fertile Cresent huh? I'll have to keep an ear out for 'em. Although,
considering your previous assault on that beautiful album _Nonsuch_, I'd
have to consider the source. :)

Regards,
  -- Gary
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 12:58:12 EST
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Post-egg nog depression

On Mon, 28 Dec 1992 10:28:06 EST Michael H. Bloom said:
>
>There's room for another bunch of information in the CD's internal catalog,
>a "sub-index" number. I've only run into three CDs that use it, including
>_The Faust Tapes_, which is one continuous track, but the sub-index numbers
>tell you where you are even though you can't skip right to the hot parts.

Hmmmm. . . that was always sold to me as a device to find different themes,
motifs and whatnot in classical music, which the industry failed to pick up on.
You were *supposed* to be able to skip to the sub-index number, if your deck
had the capability.

>
>From:         Mike <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
>Subject:      Re: Is this a foreign language or what?
>
>> btw, what is your opinion on the middle albums by Crimson?
>> Lizard
>> Starless
>> Poseidon
>> etc.
>
>I love _Lizard_ myself. I think it's a work of great delicacy, unmatched in
>the Crimso catalog. (_Islands_ is too wussy.) It gets bad press because (1)
>Jon Anderson, gerbil-voiced singer of Yes, does a vocal number (this is why
>my wife hates it) (2) the instrumental section after Anderson's vocal may be
>the longest continuous stretch of improvising in the Crimson catalog, which
>doesn't sit well with any but the most devoted fans; and (3) Fripp hates it,

I give up.  The second KC album was such a disappointment around my 'hood,
that all us good ol' boys turned off of KC for good.  After nearly 1 year of
continuous propaganda I *suppose* I'll have to go back & pick up some of this
stuff, if only to answer the question, (in yer best Python or Dentarthurdent
voice) what are these lark's tongues in aspic of which you speak?  I hardly
know where to start, *grumble, grumble*.
>
>From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
>Subject:      piss X
>
>>   For some unknown reason, I've always thought "Piss Christ" was a
>> pun on the French "piece Christ", meaning a figurine of Christ, a small
>> statue.  I'll admit my French is horrendous; am I totally wrong here?
>> Was the artist French?  Could his statement have been about the degrading
>> of Christ by the selling of obnoxious little figurines?
>
>Yow, what a delightful pun! Now I like the work even better!
>
My French aint what it used to be (as is the rest of me, apres 15 Dec (-: )
but that should be more like "pee-ess de Christe".  "Piss" is a pun-wannabe,
I'm afraid (-:  (Actually, I'd be more likely to call the whole thing "ce truc-
la de Christe, quoi?" anyhow.)
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Date:         Sat, 9 Jan 1993 21:55:30 -0800
From:         u8042026 <u8042026@MIS.NSYSU.EDU.TW>
Subject:      Rock Band

        I am a sophomore of Jong-Shan university in Taiwan. Although, I
major in MIS. But, I am very interested in music. I have learned seven
instruments. And, I already have joined a rock band. Our Band's name is
"The X". I usually play solo guitar in our band. Sometime, I play drums,
too. Our members contain two guitarists, one drummer, one vocal, one
bass-guitarist, and two keyboarders.

        Does anybody has make up a band ? I hope that you can tell me
about your experience !

        Recently, I very like to listen to Eric Clapton's songs.
Example : "Wonderful Tonight", "Tears In Heaven". Specially, these songs
are very wonderful in film "RUSH".

    {Original Score Composed and Performed by Eric Clapton}

Not long after ago, Our band was playing "Wonderful Tonight".


                 Curiously,
                             Long
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