From: wiggins@hurricane.cs.odu.edu (Samuel E Wiggins)
Subject: Re: Reconciling OT with NT
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA, USA
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:54:39 GMT


In article <1992Nov16.205155.9951@advtech.uswest.com> steven@advtech.uswest.com ( Steve Novak) writes:

   > = Scott @Brandeis:

   >> = Mark McCullough writes:

   >>How to reconcile the Old Testament God with the New Testament God, (they
   >>do appear to be quite different):

   >Let's see, in the OT God is portrayed as capable of unimaginable wrath and
   >unimaginable love. 

   ...and an unimaginable vengeful asshole who murdered whole cities because of
   the sins of a few (including, for you crocodile tear-droppers, many
   "innocent babes" and other exalted types of human life).
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Nope.  For the sins of most.  In some cities, though, He gave the opportunity
for them to change their minds and turn back to Him and start being/doing
right.  Nineveh, for instance, where Jonah went.  And, he didn't destroy
that city as He planned.  And, He would have saved Sodom and Gomorrah if just
a few (10?) righteous men were found in them, which probably had very large
populations.  BTW, He creates life; He also takes it away.  I guess if you
value your physical life and your eternal one doesn't exist for you, dying
is a big deal.
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   >In the NT, God is portrayed as capable of unimaginable
   >wrath and unimaginable love.  Yep, they are different.

   How would you know, since obviously you haven't READ it?  Just picked a
   few smarmy quotes so you could create an arrogant .sig.
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Yeah, flame him.  I'm sure you read your Bible every day and try to get
something meaningful out of it.  I'm sure you're the one with ALL knowledge
and know the correct interpretation of its verses.  And, you're not
arrogant?
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   >	"But God demonstrates His	"I tell you that in the same way,
   >	 own love for us, in that	 there will be more joy in heaven
   >	 while we were yet sinners,	 over one sinner who repents, than
   >	 Christ died for us."		 over ninety-nine righteous persons
   >					 who need no repentance." 
   >		-- Romans 5:8 [NASB]		-- Luke 15:7 [NASB]
K
   This is pathetically preachy; pull your head out of your Christian ass and
K   try living with the rest of humanity.
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     I resent the fact that you practically slapped this guy in the face, who
might have sincerely believed he would be helping out any readers.
     This is why God kills cities.
     BTW, Jesus said (as you probably know) that Christians are despised by
normal society.  Because we do live and think differently.
     But, you despise someone who obviously preaches that God forgives any
mistakes or wrongs that we all do, and love for everyone to such an extent that
He was willing to kill Himself in place of you?  Did you read Luke 15:7 above?
     What is up with you?!  Though there is indeed a set of rules and penalties
for breaking them, why is a religion despicable, even though in its true form
it is based on unconditional love for anyone and everyone and is ready to
keep anyone from suffering those penalties?












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