From: srawson@z.eecs.umich.edu (Stephen Rawson)
Subject: Re:      Windows NT and NetWare ?
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:36:25 GMT

In article <NLP2PB1w165w@korsa.UUCP> Igor Korsakov writes:
>I just installed Windows NT. It has built in LAN Manager and TCP/IP.
>How I can use it with NetWare v3.11 ?
>Thanks for any suggestions.
>Igor Korsakov.

There has been a thread about this topic going on for a few days
in comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32.  Here are the relevant
postings.

Is anyone from Novell out there who can speak to the question
of when (if) Novell will release a Windows NT Novell server
module?

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From: srawson@z.eecs.umich.edu (Stephen Rawson)
Subject: WinNT and NetWare:  How will they work together?
Keywords:  Novell, NetWare, Network, Windows 
Organization: University of Texas Medical Branch, Galveston, TX 
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 17:04:14 GMT

Can anyone clear up the question of how Windows NT will interact
with other network operating systems?  We are running a fairly
typical Netware 386 ethernet network, with 3 file servers and 
over 100 386-based workstations.  The question is, if we decide to
run Windows NT as our network operating system (i.e. on the file
servers) will it be possible to still run Netware 386 to handle 
file and print services?  Is Windows NT supposed to completely
replace all existing network operating systems (including Lan
Manager, Banyan, Novell, etc) or does it coexist with them somehow,
sort of the way Windows 3.1 coexists with MS-DOS?

We have tried to get an answer to this question from both Microsoft
and Novell, but so far have been unsuccessful.  Any insight would be
much appreciated.

Thanks,  Steve Rawson
srawson@beach.utmb.edu
srawson@z.eecs.umich.edu 


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From: alistair@microsoft.com (Alistair Banks)
Subject: Re: WinNT and NetWare:  How will they work together?
Date: 01 Sep 92 01:45:54 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Distribution: na
Keywords: Novell, NetWare, Network, Windows 

In article <1992Aug30.170414.29497@zip.eecs.umich.edu> srawson@z.eecs.umich.edu (Stephen Rawson) writes:
>Is Windows NT supposed to completely
>replace all existing network operating systems (including Lan
>Manager, Banyan, Novell, etc) or does it coexist with them somehow,
>sort of the way Windows 3.1 coexists with MS-DOS?

Windows NT's built-in networking is designed to co-exist concurrently with
any other networking software.

Novell announced last fall comdex that they were working on Windows NT
client software, and talked about their APIs in detail at our Win32
conference. Banyan have also said they're working on Windows NT client
support. I have repeatedly posted that various ISVs are working on
nfs client support for Windows NT - I run the 3rd party connectivity group,
so I should know! I have to leave it to each of the vendors concerned to
make their own announcements of delivery dates and beta test dates etc,
but I know they're each calling our group regularly, and showing
suitable progress! -- Alistair


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From: srawson@z.eecs.umich.edu (Stephen Rawson)
Subject: Re: WinNT and NetWare:  How will they work together?
Keywords: Novell, NetWare, Network, Windows 
Organization: University of Texas Medical Branch, Galveston, TX 
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:19:48 GMT

In article <1992Sep01.014554.3562@microsoft.com> alistair@microsoft.com (Alistair Banks) writes:
>
>Novell announced last fall comdex that they were working on Windows NT
>client software, and talked about their APIs in detail at our Win32
>conference. Banyan have also said they're working on Windows NT client
>support. I have repeatedly posted that various ISVs are working on
>nfs client support for Windows NT - I run the 3rd party connectivity group,

Thanks for the info about WinNT client support.  What I am mainly interested
in, however, is how the Server side works.  Will Novell Server software
coexist on the same machine and cpu with NT?  We are talking about
two 32 bit operating systems running on the same machine!  Or when you
say 'client' do you mean that the Netware server software will run as 
a client process on the NT server machine.  My understanding is that NT
is meant as a Server operating system and that many client workstations
will be running regular Win3.1.

Thanks again,  Steve
srawson@beach.utmb.edu
srawson@z.eecs.umich.edu


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From: alistair@microsoft.com (Alistair Banks)
Subject: Re: WinNT and NetWare:  How will they work together?
Date: 02 Sep 92 04:13:58 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Distribution: na
Keywords: Novell, NetWare, Network, Windows 

In article <1992Sep1.141948.20892@zip.eecs.umich.edu> srawson@z.eecs.umich.edu (Stephen Rawson) writes:
>In article <1992Sep01.014554.3562@microsoft.com> alistair@microsoft.com (Alistair Banks) writes:
>>
>
>Thanks for the info about WinNT client support.  What I am mainly interested
>in, however, is how the Server side works.  Will Novell Server software
>coexist on the same machine and cpu with NT?  We are talking about
>two 32 bit operating systems running on the same machine!  Or when you
>say 'client' do you mean that the Netware server software will run as 
>a client process on the NT server machine.  My understanding is that NT
>is meant as a Server operating system and that many client workstations
>will be running regular Win3.1.

Novell's current server products will not run as tasks under Windows NT. We
hope that they will create a netware server for Windows NT as they have
done for other operating systems like Unix. Windows NT is applicable and
intended for both client and server functions, and can perform both
simultaneously -- Alistair


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From: srawson@z.eecs.umich.edu (Stephen Rawson)
Subject: Re: WinNT and NetWare:  How will they work together?
Keywords: Novell, NetWare, Network, Windows 
Organization: University of Texas Medical Branch, Galveston 
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:32:45 GMT

>
>Novell's current server products will not run as tasks under Windows NT. We
>hope that they will create a netware server for Windows NT as they have
>done for other operating systems like Unix. Windows NT is applicable and
>intended for both client and server functions, and can perform both
>simultaneously -- Alistair

Thank you for this information.  That is exactly what I wanted to
know.  Is there anyone from Novell on the net who might know about
their plans for creating a netware server for NT?

-- Steve 
   srawson@z.eecs.umich.edu



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From: edwards@world.std.com (Jonathan Edwards)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: WinNT and NetWare:  How will they work together?
Keywords: Novell, NetWare, Network, Windows
Date: 3 Sep 92 00:13:26 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: IntraNet, Inc.

>their plans for creating a netware server for NT?

I have no direct knowledge of this whatsoever, but in the hallowed traditions 
of USENET am willing to share my deep insights.
You gotta figure that Novell's survival depends on NT's failure.
That is why they are putting NetWare onto Unix, under the name of UnixWare.
This will be the Clash of the Titans. Novell OWNS the server market. MS OWNS
the OS market. Someone's going to get hurt.
I'll bet that Novell is busy porting NetWare to NT as a contingency plan,
but would never publicly admit that, as it would undermine their marketing
position.


-- 
Jonathan Edwards				edwards@intranet.com
IntraNet, Inc					617-527-7020


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