From: schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck)
Subject: Re: CIA Agent confesses to buying rifles
Reply-To: Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 22:58:02 GMT

karn@servo.qualcomm.com (Phil Karn) writes:

>In article <schuck.718438757@sfu.ca> Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca writes:
>>No. The rifle found on the 6th floor of the TSBD was a 6.5mm
>>rifle. Thats if you ignore the fact that the officers who found the
>>rifle said it was a Mauser.

>One of the officers thought at first that it was Mauser, because it
>resembled one. He was not a firearms identification expert.

Actually he *was* an expert on firearms.

>>The bullets that struck JFK and Connally may have been 6.5mm or they
>>may not have been. The 'magic' bullet was no more damged than a bullet
>>fired into a water tank.

>The "magic" bullet was not as pristine as is often alleged. It was
>significantly flattened sideways, and it had small pieces missing.

When compared to 6.5mm rounds that had been fired into cotton wadding,
the "magic" bullet can be seen as being less flattened and had less
extrusion in the base. Check out the HSCA report, where there is a
picture with the bullets side by side. Since the 'magic' bullet
supposedly pulverized 10cm of Connally's 5th rib, it is damned
unlikely it was less damaged than a similar bullet fired into cotton.

>This was entirely consistent with the theory that it passed through
>Kennedy's neck and Connally's chest without hitting any bone until it
>finally hit Connally's wrist and stopped. By this time the bullet had
>lost so much energy from passing through flesh that it did not
>disintegrate. But its sideways flattening is consistent with it having
>yawed in the air between Kennedy and Connally, and in fact the
>entrance wound on Connally's back was oval in shape (which strongly
>indicates that Connally was not hit with a direct bullet, which is
>stable because of the spin imparted by the rifling in the barrel).

Dr Shaws testimony explains that the Connally back wound is entirely
consistent with a bullet entering Connally on a downward trajectory,
and is entirely inconsistent with a yawing bullet.

>This theory has been strongly supported by ballistics tests and
>analyses of the bullet's orientation and velocity at each point in its
>flight. Have you repeated these tests yourself, or are you simply
>asserting what you think "must" be true? If the latter, I'll go with
>the test results, at least until they are demonstrated to be invalid
>by somebody other than an armchair conspiracist.

No, I was going by the testimony of Shaw who had experience with over
1000 cases of bullet wounds during his career.

>>There is *no* evidence either bullet ever entered a human being.

>No? Then what caused the bullet holes in Kennedy and Connally?

Good question.

> Remember
>that the limo and surrounding area on Elm Street were thoroughly
>searched for evidence of further bullets.

The search was very cursory. It was so cursory that Billy Harper, the
medical student who found the skull fragment, didn't find it until the
23rd. There is also evidence other bullets were found and pocketed by
'FBI' agents who may have been real or not.

>>Again, the rifle supposedly found on the 6th floor of the TSBD was a
>>6.5mm rifle. There is no proof it was fired that day. 

>Well, finding bullets and bullet fragments in the limo and on
>Connally's stretcher that were shown to have been fired from Oswald's
>rifle to the exclusion of all other weapons, plus immediate eyewitness
>reports that a rifle was fired from the TSBD, etc, etc, seems like
>pretty good proof to me. 

You mean you don't care whether there is any evidence the bullets ever
entered a human body?

>Beyond a reasonable doubt, anyway. If Oswald
>had lived and I were on the jury at his trial, I wouldn't have any
>problem in voting "guilty" on the basis of this evidence. And I'm
>normally *very* skeptical of the government and conscious of the
>rights of a criminal defendant.

>>Plausible? The fact that the rifles transported to Dalls were 7.35mm
>>does not rule them out as assassination rifles.

>It does when the recovered bullets were identified as 6.5mm and were
>shown to have come from the C2766 rifle (Oswald's) to the exclusion
>of all other weapons...

Only the 'magic' bullet definitely came from Oswalds rifle and it was
found on a stretcher in a hospital.

None of the bullet fragments or the magic bullet had blood on them,
meaning they probably never went through a human body.

The fragments had numerous nooks and crannies for blood and brain
tissue to adhere to, and none was found.

-- 

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we'll leave -- Pierre Elliot Trudeau , 1992

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