HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: schwager@cs.uiuc.edu (Mike Schwager)
Subject: The When of Fish Disks on ux1
Summary: Eager Fish downloaders, read this
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:21:52 GMT


Greets,
I've seen a few postings from people wondering where the latest Fish Disks
can be obtained, when they'll show up, stuff like this.  Here's the
definitive scoopus, put this in your files, bring it up every once in a
while to study:

Fred posts a message to comp.sys.amiga.announce when he has a batch of 10
disks to send out.  Now I guess he mails the disks at about the same time.
Usually I see the messages come up in the beginning of the week; maybe Fred
posts the articles over the weekend, or maybe I do most of my newsreading
on Mondays, I dunno.  :-) Anyway, it seems to take about a week for the
disks to get here.  That is, if his note appears one weekend, it will be
the *following Monday* before the disks appear in my mailbox.  Sometimes
they show up on the Friday before, but I'd say 2 of 3 times the mail
service waits till Monday to deliver 'em.  Then when I get 'em, I find time
to stay up late and do a bunch of lharc'ing of the disks.  This may not be
on Monday night.  I need to lharc because otherwise, DNet will hang for
sure... I guess it really doesn't like to create an entire disk heirarchy
over serial lines or something.  Anyway, I need to lharc them, then I get
DNet going overnight to upload all 10 disks.  Takes 5 hours or so to do the
bunch.  Then when I come into work the next day, I start a script on my Sparc
and- voila'- email is sent out, mad ftp'ing begins, people have the latest
and way greatest software.

So- to sum it up- it takes as much as 10 days from the time Fred announces
new disks to the time they appear at an FTP site near you.
-Mike
Fish Archive Spots: (updated 9/29/92)
128.174.5.59    ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (disks 001-730 and counting.. GO, Fred, GO!)
     Maintained by Mike Schwager (schwager@cs.uiuc.edu)
128.255.19.233 grind.isca.uiowa.edu  has FF #1-current
     Maintained by Michael T. Pins (amigapd@isca.uiowa.edu)
128.171.44.7 ftp.hawaii.edu (mirror of ux1: disks 001-current)
	Maintained by amiga@ftp.hawaii.edu (Baron) 
	The disks on ux1 say: "...I want to be a Fish Disk in Hawaii!" :-)
16.1.0.2 gatekeeper.dec.com has FF #1-600 or so in /pub/micro/amiga/fish
     Maintained by vixie@pa.dec.com   ... does not appear to be current
128.252.135.4 wuarchive.wustl.edu  has the newest in systems/amiga/fish/fish
     (Woah!  Now lots of disks at one of America's premier ftp sites!)
IN AUSTRALIA:
139.130.4.6     archie.au
     a mirror of wuarchive.wustl.edu?  Maintained by ???
IN EUROPE:
128.214.6.100 ftp.funet.fi  carries all Fish disks in /pub/amiga/fish.
     Maintained by Pertti Lehtinen <pl@ftp.funet.fi> and
                   Jarkko Hietaniemi <jhi@ftp.funet.fi>
137.226.4.105 ftp.dfv.rwth-aachen.de
     /pub/amiga/fish/f?         Disks 600+
     /pub/amiga/fish/olddisks   Disks 1-600 (mounted from CDROM)
     Maintained by Stefan Becker
     <stefanb@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de>
From: aces@mcode.amdahl.com (Jeffrey D. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: A4000 and scan-lines, mode promotion, flicker
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:16:28 GMT
Reply-To: jds30@amail.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale Ca.

In article <bmccnnll.718497481@unix1.tcd.ie>, bmccnnll@unix1.tcd.ie (Barry McConnell) writes:
> In <1992Oct7.063412.6947@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
> 
> >   Most of the A4000 screens will have scan-lines.
> 
> Oh heck...
> 
> >But if a program tries to open a screen in a standard mode, you
> >will get all of the scanlines and flicker just as if the screen were being
> >opened on an Amiga 500.
> 
> What is "mode promotion"? I thought that meant that anything opening PAL
> Hi-Res-Laced via Intuition would end up with a flicker-free display? Does
> this mean that *every* program that opens an interlace screen, without the
> option to select your desired screenmode (like Term), will flicker?
> 
> Sh*t. I _was_ considering buying one, but I'm now having second thoughts.
> Although I suppose someone will quickly come up with a utility to force all
> flickering screens into flicker-free, either via DblPAL or Productivity...
Barry,
Please consider the source of that information. M.Barrett usually
doesn't know what he's flaming about.  I suggest that you put his
name in your KILL file to ignore everything he posts.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: sacke@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeff Hanna)
Subject: Re: Workbench 3.0 DataTypes
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 06:43:40 GMT

In article <67726@cup.portal.com> Chris_Lynn_Minshall@cup.portal.com writes:
>Your hypoethesing (sp?) is quite correct about the datatypes.library.  It
>will be able to do all of those things and much more.  I just hope everyone
>(all of the developers) get on the band wagon and start supporting.
>
>Chris
After I wrote my first article, I was thinking about *more* ways you could
utilize DataTypes.  Specifically for games.

1)	For Adventure games, have DataTypes for Characters, nsters,
	Places, Weapons, Treasures, etc...  That way your Character could
	be portable across different games.  


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett)
Subject: What is the default video mode of the A4000?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:15:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.224023.836@athena.mit.edu> fihsu@athena.mit.edu (Hsu I-wei) writes:
>No, he did knock on the new chipset by saying the _only_ substantial
>improvement is color. Graphics speedup of 3-4x is not what I'd call
>insubstantial! And he also passed on speculation (ie. saying that you
>probably have to borrow a monitor which syncs down to 15kHz just to boot the
>A4000) as if it was fact. The lack of a display enhancer is an important
>point against the A4000, but Marc clouded his article with his usual
>propaganda worthy only of .advocacy.

   We can end this quickly, just by finding out once and for all what the
default video mode of the A4000 is, as it comes out-of-the-box.  If it is
the 640x200 15Khz NTSC mode, and if a user has upgraded to an A4000 from an
A3000 and only has a monitor that can handle frequencies fron 31Khz on up,
then the user WILL have to borrow a monitor to boot the computer the first
time.

>Francis

---
| Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
--------------------------------------------------
              A4000: JUST SAY NO!!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett)
Subject: Re: Avoid the Amiga 4000
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:37:16 GMT

In article <n0bcct@ofa123.fidonet.org> Aric.Caley@ofa123.fidonet.org writes:
>> Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
>> From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett)
>> Message-ID: 1992Oct9.202700.1317@news.iastate.edu
>> Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
>>
>>   You are posting nonsense.  The "flicker-fixing" features of the A4000 is
>> done entirely in software, and I do not trust software as much as
>> hardware.
>
>No, its NOT.  "Promotion" is an OS feature, howerver, it requires the new
>HARDWARE of the A4000.  The new non-interlaced IE "flicker-fixed" modes of
>the A4000 are done IN HARDWARE WITH THE AGA CHIPSET.

   Not quite.  The modes are DblNTSC and DblPAL, which are partly achievable
on any Amiga with the ECS.  DblNTSC and DblPAL on such an Amiga would have
a max. of 2 bitplanes and a 64-color palette, though, so the extra depth of
the A4000 is needed to get these with at least the same color capabilities 
as the standard PAL and NTSC modes.  The modes are programmed from software,
and the "promotion" feature is software too.

---
| Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
--------------------------------------------------
      Slick Willie Clinton: JUST SAY NO!!!
From: cfury@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Chris Fury)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Fish Disks
Keywords: Impatient User Wants Disks
Date: 7 Oct 92 03:08:14 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

Could somebody post Fish Disks >730 on an FTP site already?  Puh-lease!?!

(or, if they're already out there, tell me where?)

Thanks mucho in advanco,

Christopher B. Fury        | "...reality was once a primative method of crowd  
cfury@csugrad.cs.vt.edu    |  control that got out of hand" - Jane Wagner
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: pdietz@cse.unl.edu (Phil Dietz)
Subject: Need 'enforcer' tester for NewList7
Organization: NCEMRSoft
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 04:21:48 GMT


I have a new version of 'ls utility' complete.  I am now in the debug stage
, but unfortunately I have no MMU to run enforcer.  
 
Would someone be kind and test it for me?

--
                                                              Phil Dietz
                  EOF.                                pdietz@cse.unl.edu
                                                  University Of Nebraska
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: Avoid the Amiga 4000
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 14:55:51 GMT

In <1992Oct9.205944.3074@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
>   I have played games on the A3000 with the display enhancer turned on, and
>it has NEVER been a problem.  I have never really noticed the ghosting that
>you speak of.  Its there if objects ont he screen move REALLY raplidly, but
>how often do you see this happening in most games?

I think that you will see it very often if a game really uses interlace.
The C= deinterlacer effectively avoids the ghosting when scan-doubling
non-interlaced resolutions.

>   BTW, I have not been able to find ANY low-radiation multisync monitors 
>that can handle frequencies as low as 15Khz.  Some people do worry about 
>low-freqency electromagnetic radiation from computer monitors, and the A4000
>would force these people to use normal monitors that emit high amounts of
>this radiation.  

That would mean that YOU are forced to use a "high radiation" monitor as
YOU are unable to find a monitor. Let me tell you, there are many of them.

>   It goes along with Commodore's marketing strategy to force Amiga owners to
>only be able to use Commodore's HD drives, I suppose.  It's not a marketing
>strategy that I agree with.  

That's not marketing strategy.. it's a hardware limitation.

Regards,
-- 
Michael van Elst
UUCP:     universe!local-cluster!milky-way!sol!earth!uunet!unido!mpirbn!p554mve
Internet: p554mve@mpirbn.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett)
Subject: Re: What is the default video mode of the A4000?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 05:16:27 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.163155.14807@coli.uni-sb.de> thst@sbustd.rz.uni-sb.de (Thomas Strauss) writes:
>
>Marc Barret writes:
>>    We can end this quickly, just by finding out once and for all what the
>> default video mode of the A4000 is, as it comes out-of-the-box.  If it is
>> the 640x200 15Khz NTSC mode, and if a user has upgraded to an A4000 from an
>> A3000 and only has a monitor that can handle frequencies fron 31Khz on up,
>> then the user WILL have to borrow a monitor to boot the computer the first
>> time.
>
>Yes, as I experienced, they come out of the box configured to 15kHz, what I 
>think is good, because you would fry your 1084 if you connected it to 31kHz...
>
>But as 15kHz is PAL you can take any TV-Set, connect it to the AMIGA (Ok, you
>need a scart cable) set the right Screenmode. Then switch of TV with the
>Mousepointer over the SAVE Button. You press the Button, switch of your A4000
>and connect the 31kHz Monitor.
>
>It is a bit of a workaround but you do not need an 15-38 KHz Monitor just to
>set up your system.

   What is a TV set, then, but a 15Khz monitor?  Then I was right when I 
stated that if your monitor will not handle frequencies below 31Khz, then you
will have to use a monitor that will handle 15Khz to boot the computer.

>
>bye
>  Thomas
>--
>Thomas Strauss       You can reach me via:
>Josefstr.64           Internet: thst@stud.uni-sb.de
>6637 Nalbach          Voice: +49 (0) 6838 84739
>(Germany)
>-- 
>Thomas Strauss       You can reach me via:
>Josefstr.64           Internet: thst@stud.uni-sb.de
>6637 Nalbach          Voice: +49 (0) 6838 84739
>(Germany)

   I should flame you into the ground for posting your signature twice, because
once when I had problems with my newsreader appending my signature twice
(which wasn't my fault at all) people flamed me into the ground for it.  But
I won't do it.

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--------------------------------------------------
      Slick Willie Clinton: JUST SAY NO!!!
From: davidm@cbmvax.commodore.com (David Miller - CATS)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.announce
Subject: A4000 Now Shipping!
Date: 10 Oct 92 02:30:15 GMT
Reply-To: davidm@cbmvax.commodore.com (David Miller - CATS)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc

Net Announcement

For Immediate Release

On September 30, 1992 Commodore Business
Machines began shipping the new Amiga 4000
Systems to dealers.  The new Amiga 4000 is the
latest generation Amiga and features Commodore's
new Advanced Graphics Architecture.  The Amiga
4000 is based on Motorola's MC68040 processor,
and features a 16 million color palette.

Commodore has also announced a special promotion
on the Amiga 3000 family of products with prices
starting as low as $1499.  These promotional prices
continue through October 31,1992.  See your
participating Authorized Commodore Reseller for
details.

In the US, call 1-800-66-AMIGA to find the dealer nearest you.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.announce
Subject: disclaimer to comp.sys.amiga.announce
Keywords: administrivia
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:00:43 GMT
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From: sue@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Sue West - CATS)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.announce
Subject: World of Commodore Amiga Toronto
Date: 15 Oct 92 06:56:47 GMT
Reply-To: sue@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Sue West - CATS)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc

World of Commodore Amiga
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
December 4-6, 1992

The Toronto International Centre
6900 Airport Road, Hall One
Mississauga, Ontario L4V 1E8

Show Hours:   10 a.m. - 6 p.m. 

Admission:    $8.00 Adults
              $6.00 Students & Seniors

Group discount tickets are available until November 13 for $5.00 each day.
Minimum order required for group rate is 25 tickets.

Admission Price includes free seminars.

Show Hotel:   Radisson Suite Hotel Toronto Airport
              640 Dixon Road
              Etobicoke, Ontario M9W 1J1

Show Rate:    $89 Single or Double
              Reservation Deadline: November 3, 1992

Reservations: (416) 242-7400

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From: ruocco@hp4.sm.dsi.unimi.it (sergio ruocco)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.announce
Subject: Italian Programmers Meeting
Date: 15 Oct 92 06:52:12 GMT
Reply-To: ruocco@hp4.sm.dsi.unimi.it (sergio ruocco)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc

[ I made a few edits to help with the English.  -Dan ]

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
IPISA '92 (Incontro dei Programmatori Italiani per lo Sviluppo Amiga)

Italian programmers meeting for the Amiga development
-----------------------------------------------------

Modena, Saturday 31 October 1992

IPISA '92, a meeting among Italian Amiga programmers, will be held
Saturday 31 October 1992 in Modena at the conference hall of the
'Planetario Comunale' will be held. There will be famous Italian
Amiga programmers illustrating their new programs & utilities.

This meeting is also an excellent business occasion for talented Amiga
developers and companies involved in Amiga development to meet and to
lay down the foundations for a future collaboration. This was a very
appreciated point of the last IPISA edition.

The structure of the meeting is the same as the last year, with
roundtables and individual speakers.  On request, highly interesting
topics could be discussed and included in the official IPISA acts.

The fee for the conference is 37,000 Lire (~28.50 US$).

For additional information about the meeting, fees, and scheduled
speakers send 2,000 Lire (about 1.5 US$) plus (3 US$ for express
delivery) in stamps to:

Andrea Salati, Viale Newton 25, 41100 Modena

Or via E-mail:

UseNet: {rutgers|uunet}!cbmvax!cbmehq!cbmita!ipisa!asalati
FidoNet: 2:232/505.6


Payment of Lit. 37.000 on c/c (italian post account) # 14612568,
destination:

AGEMO SOC. COOP A R.L.
Via Santa Marta, 57
56127 Pisa

----------------------------------------------------------------------

NB:
   This is an approximate translation of the official bulletin.

	The meeting is open, this means that not only C= registered developers
	can participate: every Amiga enthusiast is encouraged to participate.

   Since Andrea Salati is difficult to reach via e-mail, for more
   information you can also leave E-mail to one of the following
   addresses:

   spisser@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it
   ruocco@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.announce
Subject: Introduction to comp.sys.amiga.announce
Keywords: administrivia
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:43:21 GMT
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Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Organization: U.C. Davis Department of Computer Science


          Introduction to Comp.Sys.Amiga.Announce

                   As of October 15, 1992


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