From: donn@brat.wa.com (Donn Pedro)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Re: so, pro-windmill cadres...
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:17:09 GMT
Organization: Tandemonium, Kent, WA


My response was not pro-windmill or pro anything, mark.

It was anti-innuendo/inaccuracies/insults and you deserved it.

In article <MS-C.718341383.377401575.mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (Mark Crispin) writes:
:Let me get this straight.  So that your windmills can supply enough
:energy to serve current needs, you are proposing that you clearcut
:Washington State and fill it with windmills and cows?  Such
:environmental consciousness.

Such a USENET leap I have never seen!

:Oh.  I get it.  You want to build windmills *only* in those few areas
:that are devoid of trees, windy, and not used for anything other than
:cow pastures.  Just ignore the fact that the electricity you'll get
:from the whole mess is a drop in the bucket of the overall energy
:needs.

My response to you was because of your usual (and tiring) tone.
A post filled with inaccurate statements tailor made to
suit some need you seem to have.

:The money wasted on Politically Correct
		     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
		     Knew you would slide that in somewhere.
		     You always do.

:I've been to the toy facility along I-580 too.  Several times.  You
:call those things quiet?  You can hear the WHISH-WHISH of the blades
:from a half a mile away.  Of the ones which are turning.  Most of them
:aren't.

Your claims are inaccurate and not worth arguing.

:They dominate the entire area.  It's interesting that the claims that
:they don't impact the ecology of the area come from 
:urban `environmentalists' 

More of your name calling.  

:who evidentally think that anything that doesn't
:have lots of trees (or water) is a sterile wasteland.

Not sterile wasteland -- grazing land.

: The claim of
:`no significant bird kills' does not mesh with what I read from the
:California chapter of the Sierra Club either.

I doubt you would provide an accurate representation.

:Perhaps you should spend some time living in a `desert' to appreciate
:why windmills are not welcome `environmentally neutral' technology.

Irrellevant.

Continue your rant and your name calling.  It seems to be your style:


:From: mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (Mark Crispin)
:Newsgroups: pnw.general
:Subject: last 5-10% of the trees?
:Message-ID: <MS-C.709788199.1103527590.mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU>
:Date: 29 Jun 92 03:23:19 GMT
:that I find hard to reconcile.
:
:"I know that the eco-freaks, as I call them, "
:
:"Perhaps that was just a few kooks"
:
:"Environmentalist propaganda" 
:
:"Yuppies "
:
:
:From: mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (Mark Crispin)
:Newsgroups: pnw.general
:Subject: it's spelled `Rashomon' not `Rashamon'
:Message-ID: <MS-C.709776479.1103527590.mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU>
:
:
:"eco-terrorists"
:
:
:From: mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM (Mark Crispin)
:Newsgroups: pnw.general
:Subject: open challenge to Phil Hughes
:Message-ID: <MS-C.709765725.2035015474.mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM>
:Date: 28 Jun 92 21:08:45 GMT
:
:
:"Politically Correct"
:
:
:From: mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (Mark Crispin)
:Newsgroups: pnw.general
:Subject: where to find `Earth First!' cretins
:Message-ID: <MS-C.709669728.377401575.mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU>
:Date: 27 Jun 92 18:28:48 GMT
:
:"anywhere you can find psychopaths who think nothing
:of terrorism and murder to accomplish their goals."
:
:"`Earth First!' cretins" 
:
:"Unfortunately, they survived"
:
:"tree-hugging eco-freak activism"
:
:From: mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM (Mark Crispin)
:Newsgroups: seattle.general
:Subject: on global warming
:Message-ID: <MS-C.709854581.377401575.mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM>
:Date: 29 Jun 92 21:49:41 GMT
:
:But that isn't Politically Correct: `No Nukes -- Split Wood, Not
:Atoms!'

That is why your voice carries so little weight on the net, Mark.





         Donn Pedro ....................a.k.a. donn@brat.wa.com
	
	       "You talk the talk.  Do you walk the walk?"

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