HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Arthur C. Adams)
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
Subject: Re: Bill Clinton & the KGB
Keywords: communists, Bill Clinton
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:51:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <1992Oct5.182935.18317@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) writes:
>
>     Anyone hear about a story in the Washington Post about Bill Clinton and
>the KGB?
>
>     Evidently, in 1970 when Bill was in England he toured Europe- and one of
>his stops was the Soviet Union. His escort around Moscow in their limo? The
>KGB. The KGB attempted to recruit the young Clinton to be an anti-war organizer
>in the U.S. when he returned.

This is a story being put forth by Congressman Bob Dornan (R-California)
who is hardly a fan of Bill Clinton. He is possibly the single most
right-wing member of the House, or just the most loud-mouthed.

Clinton did go to Moscow, as a tourist. All U.S. visitors were escorted
at that time, perhaps by the KGB. 

There is no evidence other than pure hypothesis that there was any
attempt to recruit Clinton. 
-- 
What the gamemasters wilt shall be the whole of the law.
	- Motto of the Hellfire Club, live-action roleplaying GM's
We need not fear those who do evil in the name of evil, but Heaven
protect us from those who do evil in the name of good.
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
From: morgan@sitka.triumf.ca (Morgan Burke)
Subject: Re: Russia's OPERATIONAL Starwars Defense System
Organization: TRIUMF, Vancouver BC
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:18:13 GMT

mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:

>          Brezhnev officially "died" (note that the word "retirement" 
>          was used for the TERMINATION OF REPLICANTS in the 1982 movie 
>          "Blade Runner"), and his quick replacement with Andropov 

>          November 19, 1977, ironically at about the same time as the 
>          release of the first "Star Wars" movie with its "death star" 

>          MILITARY mission, in ways which were successfully covered up 
>          by NASA using techniques similar to those shown in the movie 
>          "Capricorn I", (5-7-81, 5-14-81, and 5-21-81 WR). 

Sounds like somebody has been spending too much time watching TV.

>          jammed, and some of them were also armed with microwave 
>          BRAIN-SCRAMBLING equipment. 

Actually, maybe that's a better explanation for this post.

>               UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this 
>          IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED.

Trouble with the caps-lock key, Rob?

>				    Robert E. McElwaine
>                                   B.S., Physics and Astronomy, UW-EC

Hmm.  This guy again.  Anybody know exactly what they teach in the
Phys-Astro program at UW-EC?

-- Morgan Burke (morgan@reg.triumf.ca)
Xref: sparky talk.rumors:1052 rec.arts.tv:19019
From: acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Arthur C. Adams)
Newsgroups: talk.rumors,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Madonna & Di &/or Fergie
Keywords: Madonna,Di,Fat Fergie
Date: 1 Oct 92 19:14:34 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <mjenkins.717954013@cunews> mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson) writes:
>In <Sep.30.22.12.19.1992.28205@gandalf.rutgers.edu> patricka@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Patrick Anderson) writes:
>>Somebody told me they heard about a Madonna/Di or Madonna/FatFergie
>>tryst. Anyone else hear this rumor? Details?
>
>Madonna merely said that one of them (and I forgot which one too)
>could stay in her apartment for the time being while the divoce or
>whatever went through.

Doesn't this sound like the plot of a really _BAD_ sitcom?
-- 
What the gamemasters wilt shall be the whole of the law.
	- Motto of the Hellfire Club, live-action roleplaying GM's
We need not fear those who do evil in the name of evil, but Heaven
protect us from those who do evil in the name of good.
From: dirk@ecst.csuchico.edu (Dirk Walls)
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
Subject: Re: who cares!!!!!!
Date: 29 Sep 92 05:10:55 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico

In article <1992Sep29.011027.29478@ncsu.edu> mhhutchi@unity.ncsu.edu (Max Hutchison) writes:
>
>I hope you are not voting for Clinton.

And I hope you aren't voting for Bush.
-- 
Dirk Walls <> dirk@ecst.csuchico.edu <> I've got a fast, flash motor <>PING!<>
From: ew2r+@andrew.cmu.edu (Erik Karl Witte)
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
Subject: Re: "Jehovah" TRIBE OF SPACE CANNIBALS
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:22:07 GMT
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I'm sure we all agree that your post was wonderfully humorous and
insightful and must have taken you a long time to research and write. 
Now can you put it somewhere else?  What the hell does this have to do
with abortion?
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Re: Madonna & Di &/or Fergie
Keywords: Madonna,Di,Fat Fergie
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:40:13 GMT

In <Sep.30.22.12.19.1992.28205@gandalf.rutgers.edu> patricka@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Patrick Anderson) writes:


>Somebody told me they heard about a Madonna/Di or Madonna/FatFergie
>tryst. Anyone else hear this rumor? Details?

Its not the lesbian fantasy you so obviously desire.

Madonna merely said that one of them (and I forgot which one too)
could stay in her apartment for the time being while the divoce or
whatever went through.

Michael
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
From: mhhutchi@unity.ncsu.edu (Max Hutchison)
Subject: Re: Clinton/Gore rumor
Organization: North Carolina State University Project Unity
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 01:16:52 GMT

In article <FTwTRB4w165w@quake.sylmar.ca.us>, loose@quake.sylmar.ca.us (loose_connection) writes:
|> there's a rumor that Clinton/Gore bumper stickers are available for
|> $1
|> P.O. Box 1063 Sierra Madre CA 91025
|> the rumor also says they look just like the posters you see on t.v.

I think this guy has a bumper sticker on his face and can't see what is happening!
From: hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes)
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
Subject: Re: MCelwre may not be sane
Date: 7 Oct 92 02:19:45 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Oct6.182154.1585@cnsvax.uwec.edu> bakerdj@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
>Robert Mcelwere is from my university at UW-EC. He is rumured to be mentally
>unbalanced. He actually believes all of this stuff he writes. Please read his
>post for the entertainment value only.
>
>Dan the curious one

     No shit.
     Well, I wish he would post something *different*, or at least
     answer all the valid objections that have been made to the
     crap he's posting to a dozen newsgroups now for a year.

     The guy's a nutcase.

     Wayne
From: mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
Subject: "Jehovah" TRIBE OF SPACE CANNIBALS
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:08:56 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire


          
                          CONTRADICTIONS about God

               Christians should all HONESTLY and thoroughly 
          investigate the CONTRADICTIONS between the Old and New 
          Testaments in terms of their descriptions of God. 

               The God of the New Testament is described as a God of 
          LOVE, MERCY, and PEACE. 

               The god of the Old Testament is described as a JEALOUS, 
          VENGEFUL god, a WAR-MONGER.  He said "Thou shalt not kill", 
          and then proceeded to help the Israelites to kill TENS OF 
          THOUSANDS of Arabs in order to take their land.  [And the 
          zionist PIG$ from Israel are still doing it today!] 

               Can the two Testaments POSSIBLY be talking about the 
          same thing?! 


               The "god" of the Old Testament was actually a TRIBE OF 
          RENEGADE SPACE CANNIBALS, with a leader named "Yahweh", who 
          was the commander of a UFO SPACECRAFT ("pillar of fire", 
          "pillar of cloud", etc.), and a GENETICIST who CLONED Adam 
          and Eve FROM HIMSELF and put them on this planet which was 
          ALREADY INHABITED at that time.  And the "first born sons" of 
          the Israelites became ROAST DINNER for the "JehovahS". 

               All of this may sound UN-believable to most Christians.  
          But try reading the Old Testament with these things in mind.  
          For example, read the part about one of the Old Testament 
          characters, Jacob, I think, WRESTLING WITH GOD, AND WINNING!  
          [ ALWAYS use the KING JAMES VERSION.  Later versions are PER-
          VERSIONS! ] 

               See also the book "THE LOST TRIBES FROM OUTER SPACE", by 
          Mark Dem (?). 



               UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this 
          IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED. 


                                   Robert E. McElwaine
                                   B.S., Physics and Astronomy, UW-EC


Newsgroups: talk.rumors
From: bed3@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Benjamin E Delfin)
Subject: Re: Perfect Knowledge
Organization: not bloody much
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 08:26:26 GMT
X-Posted-From: cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu


Benjamin Eli Delfin             | "The worst sin toward our fellow crea-
bed3@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu     |  tures is not to hate them, but to be
bed@curaim.phys.columbia.edu    |  indifferent to them: that's the
alberich@valkyrie.phys.etc      |  essence of inhumanity." - Shaw
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
Subject: Re: Bill Clinton & the KGB
From: jdeke@oread.cc.ukans.edu (John Deke)
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:51:22 CDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

In article <1992Oct5.195146.5895@afterlife.ncsc.mil>, acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Arthur C. Adams) writes:
> 
> Clinton did go to Moscow, as a tourist. All U.S. visitors were escorted
> at that time, perhaps by the KGB. 
> 
Yeah, but most U.S. visitors don't go to Moscow after participating in and
possibly organizing anti-American demonstrations across Europe from Britain
to Oslo. Furthermore, they don't go there in the middle of a 20 degrees 
below zero winter. 
-- 
John Deke
jdeke@oread.cc.ukans.edu
From: patricka@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Patrick Anderson)
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
Subject: Madonna & Di &/or Fergie
Keywords: Madonna,Di,Fat Fergie
Date: 1 Oct 92 02:12:19 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Somebody told me they heard about a Madonna/Di or Madonna/FatFergie
tryst. Anyone else hear this rumor? Details?
 
Love,
Xenu
 
"Ronald Reagan: a triumph of the embalmer's art." - Gore Vidal
From: pld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Paul Dineen)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:26:48 GMT
Subject: Re: who cares!!!!!!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: talk.rumors

 Aren't you just a littl tired of th treatment Dan Quayl has recieved
 in th press.  I mean, let's b fair to th guy.  Enough of th spin-doctoring 
 and mis-interpretation of his statements.  Th only fair thing to do is 
 quot him directly:

     "Certainly, I know what to do, and when I am Vice President -- and
      I will be -- there will be contingency plans under different sets of
      situations and I tell you what, I'm not going to go out and hold a news
      conference about it. I'm going to put it in a safe and keep it there!
      Does that answer your question?"

      		-- Dan Quayl when asked what he would do if 
		   h assumed th Presidency, 1988
From: bluelobster+@CMU.EDU (David O Hunt)
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
Subject: Re: "Jehovah" TRIBE OF SPACE CANNIBALS
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:25:13 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>               The "god" of the Old Testament was actually a TRIBE OF 
>          RENEGADE SPACE CANNIBALS, with a leader named "Yahweh", who 
>          was the commander of a UFO SPACECRAFT ("pillar of fire", 
>          "pillar of cloud", etc.), and a GENETICIST who CLONED Adam 
>          and Eve FROM HIMSELF and put them on this planet which was 
>          ALREADY INHABITED at that time.  And the "first born sons" of 
>          the Israelites became ROAST DINNER for the "JehovahS". 

BWAAAAA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!!

Whoo-wee!  Haven't had such a good laugh in a long time...

Though I will agree with your critique of the contradictions of the bible in
general.

David
From: spoelhof@kodak.com (Gordon C. Spoelhof)
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
Subject: Re: who cares!!!!!!
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:23:36 GMT
Reply-To: spoelhof@kodak.com (Gordon C. Spoelhof)
Organization: Eastman Kodak Company - Health Sciences Division

In article <1992Sep29.051055.14400@ecst.csuchico.edu>, dirk@ecst.csuchico.edu 
(Dirk Walls) writes:
> > In article <1992Sep29.011027.29478@ncsu.edu> mhhutchi@unity.ncsu.edu (Max 
> Hutchison) writes:
> >
> >I hope you are not voting for Clinton.
> 
> And I hope you aren't voting for Bush.

Pat Paulson (spelling ?) looks like strong candiate this year.  In years
past I wrote him off as a comic choice, but considering the alternatives
(Bush, Clinton, Perot, Mickey Mouse and Goofy, + all the other minor
candidates), I think he has a chance.  Over the years he has gained
more experience as a candidate than any of the others and his hair has
even picked up that silver colored Presidential look...

This could be his year.

Gordon Spoelhof
spoelhof@kodak.com

Gordon Spoelhof / Eastman Kodak Co. / HSD 2-8-C-39105
100 Carlson Road / Rochester, NY 14653-9105
e-mail:  spoelhof@kodak.com       phone: (716)253-9734
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
From: charlie@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Charlie Channel)
Subject: Re: who cares!!!!!!
Organization: Stanford U
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:17:14 GMT

In article <3743@eastman.UUCP> spoelhof@kodak.com (Gordon C. Spoelhof) writes:
>
>Pat Paulson (spelling ?) looks like strong candiate this year.  In years
>past I wrote him off as a comic choice, but considering the alternatives
>(Bush, Clinton, Perot, Mickey Mouse and Goofy, + all the other minor
>candidates), I think he has a chance.  Over the years he has gained
>more experience as a candidate than any of the others and his hair has
>even picked up that silver colored Presidential look...

And, don't forget about Dizzy.  This could possibly be the last chance
he has.

C
From: bakerdj@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
Subject: MCelwre may not be sane
Date: 7 Oct 92 00:21:54 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

Robert Mcelwere is from my university at UW-EC. He is rumured to be mentally
unbalanced. He actually believes all of this stuff he writes. Please read his
post for the entertainment value only.

Dan the curious one
From: loose@quake.sylmar.ca.us (loose_connection)
Newsgroups: talk.rumors
Subject: Clinton/Gore rumor
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:44:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Quake Public Access, Sylmar CA

there's a rumor that Clinton/Gore bumper stickers are available for
$1
P.O. Box 1063 Sierra Madre CA 91025
the rumor also says they look just like the posters you see on t.v.
Xref: sparky talk.abortion:40424 alt.flame:13249
From: patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.flame
Subject: Re: suzanne on pigmentation and fetuses
Summary: one of life's little mysteries...
Date: 4 Oct 92 17:23:56 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Rice University

In article <1992Oct4.153000.17122@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gjh@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Galen J. Hekhuis) writes:
>In article <1992Oct3.213806.5084@ncsu.edu> dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu 
>(Doug Holtsinger) writes:
>
>}People who have publically expressed their clear and unequivocal
>}objection ...
>
>}   Doug Holtsinger
>
>So why the hell do you still keep doing it Doug?  

He's just showing his loyalty to his leader, that's all.  Such a good little
sledovatel' he is, to use the Russian word...:-)

--Patrick.  I'm at work.  My .sig has the day off.

-- 
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
From: gjh@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Galen J. Hekhuis)
Subject: Re: "Snapple" Anti-Choice?
Organization: University of Virginia Health Sciences Center
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:08:59 GMT

In article <l!_ps+.bskendig@netcom.com> bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig) 
writes:

}But I don't want to allow a woman to say, "Oh gee, seven months
}pregnant... you know, I really don't feel like having a baby at all."
}with no better reason than this.  This just wouldn't be fair to the
}person within her; she should have made up her mind before the fetus
}had a mind.  ;)

What makes you think it should be up to you?

}So what's the solution?  Is there some way to construct a law that
}would prohibit third-trimester abortions without a "good reason"?
}Who's to say what a "good reason" would be?  Or should we deny all
}requests to perform abortions during the third trimester?  Or should
}we allow them all?  And if you support either of the two extremes, why?

We "should allow them all" in that abortion is poorly addressed by
legislation.  Always has been.  Sometimes you just have to take the
good with the bad.  While you may couch your reasoning in words about
"protection" in prohibiting abortion, it is simply your forcing into
law what you feel is a "good reason."  You ask if there is some way
to construct a law.  Perhaps you should first consider whether or not
a law is necessary.

Abortion is unique.  For those of you who might need your memory 
refreshed, abortion is not:
  Slavery
  Nazism
  Kidney transplants
  Famous violinists
  A desert island
  etc.

--
       hang gliding mailing list: hang-gliding-request@virginia.edu 
     Galen Hekhuis  UVa Health Sci Ctr (804)982-1646 gjh@virginia.edu
               A man's screech should exceed his gasp...
Organization: Engineering Design Research Center, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: Larry Margolis <margoli@watson.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Guilty of ... Thoughtcrime!
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 05:51:25 GMT
Reply-To: margoli@watson.IBM.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: The Village Waterbed

In  <1992Oct1.162629.26253@adobe.com>  kendall@adobe.com (Janice Kendall) writes:
> In article <1992Sep30.004626.124040@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.ibm.com write
> >In  <nyikos.717798089@milo.math.scarolina.edu>  nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Pete
> >> In <1992Sep27.085848.166097@watson.ibm.com> Larry Margolis <margoli@watson.ib
> >>
> >> >In  <1992Sep26.010844.3042@zooid.guild.org>  Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.
> >> >>
> >> >> Actually, I've seen many statistics showing that pregnancy is no greater a
> >> >> risk for women than the operation to terminate one.
> >>
> >> >Where have you seen these statistics?  Everything I've seen says that
> >> >the risk for carrying to term is much higher.
> >>
> >> it is impossible to tell how far removed these
> >> other sources are from the PRIMARY sources by the little info you give.
> >
> >Nevertheless, I gave lots of statistics from lots of sources.  All the
> >numbers I've seen say that an early term abortion is an order of magnitude
> >safer than carrying to term.  Mr. Steeves said he's seen many statistics
> >that say otherwise.  I'm still waiting to hear his references.  If you
> >have any contradictory numbers, feel free to present them.  (And, since
> >you object to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, I assume you'll only quote
> >from unbiased sources.  That's why I gave *lots* of sources.)
>
>  Maybe Mr. Steeves references to abortion deaths are from the years
>  when abortion was illegal...

Or maybe he made the whole thing up.  Rather than speculate, I'd prefer to
wait and see the statistics and sources he provides.  (Still waiting, Will...)

Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
From: cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com (C J Silverio)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Tax #48 from NYT article
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:12:38 GMT
Reply-To: cj@sgi.com (C J Silverio)
Organization: SGI TechPubs
NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.26.79.24

---
eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK) writes:
|lefty@apple.com (Lefty) writes:
|=eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK) wrote:
|=> From enumeration of Bill Clinton's "taxes":
|=> "1987
|=> 48. Act 144 authorized the levying of an annual license fee of $500 for
|=> each abortion clinic."
|=> Raises a few eyebrows, huh?
|=Not especially.  Did you have a point here?

|Well I was hoping you would be able to think about what could be a
|financial/fiscal convienience of being pro-choice with respect to the
|government. 

I'm afraid I'm unable to parse this sentence.  Are you referring
to some kind of choice about how gov't uses our tax dollars?
About a choice to abort our gov't?  (I could get into that.)
Do you somehow feel that taxing a clinic is "anti-choice"?
Please clarify.

|Having the government somehow profit from the exploitation
|of women and "murder" of babies doesn't make me feel very comfortable.

How does an abortion exploit a woman who freely chooses to abtain it?

And what babies are there that are being murdered?  This is
horrible!  And against the law!  What are their names?  You
really ought to report it.  Of course, it has nothing to do
with abortion.

---
cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com    C J Silverio/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720
"He must be an oddity, I think," said she.  "I cannot make him out.  
There is something very pompous in his style.  Can he be a sensible 
man, sir?"  --Pride & Prejudice. 
Newsgroups: talk.abortion,talk.religion.misc,alt.atheism
From: sgast+@pitt.edu (Susan Garvin)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Threats?
Date: 27 Sep 92 15:18:31 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Sep27.055745.31323@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.IBM.com writes:
#In  <1992Sep26.011917.8477@noao.edu>  forgach@noao.edu (Suzanne Forgach) writes:
##
## But I have news for you both.  If ever a baby of mine needs the
## services of an NICU, and either of you tries pull the plug on him/her,
## I will pull the plug on YOU.
#
#I wonder if the kid with the propeller beanie is going to complain about
#Suzanne threatening the life of Andy and Ray?

I wondered the same thing.  Suzanne's comments are phrased the same
way that Mark's were.

I doubt that he will complain, though.  Dennis will cite his "two
wrongs make a right" rule and carry on.

Susan
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
From: eeb1@ellis.uchicago.edu (e elizabeth bartley)
Subject: Re: "Snapple" Anti-Choice?
Reply-To: eeb1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 00:03:28 GMT

In article <#bjzhpb@rpi.edu> cookc@aix.rpi.edu (rocker) writes:

>I discussed this with Ms. Bartley.  She used the analogy that, say,
>it was not illegal to kill your child on the child's seventh
>birthday.  She said she would be uncomfortable with that being
>legal.  My response was, ok, say that it's been legal to do that
>for the last 20 years.  Say that we have absolutely no evidence
>that large numbers of children are being killed at 7.  Actually,
>we have no evidence at all that any child had been killed at 7 just 
>because it was legal.  Now, I'm fine with it being legal, but
>not done.  She wasn't.  She seemed to want a law against it "just
>in case".

Partially I wanted a law against killing children "just in case" (in
the hypothetical we'd been discussing; obviously in Real Life it's
illegal to kill seven-year-olds), as the fact that something hasn't
been done in the past is no guarantee that circumstances won't shift
and cause it to occur in the future.  However, I also think that
beings with moral rights are entitled to have these moral rights
recognized by law (especially if other beings with moral rights have
their moral right recognized by law).

-- 
Pro-Choice                 Anti-Roe                     - E. Elizabeth Bartley
            Abortions should be safe, legal, early, and rare.

Cthulhu for President -- when you're tired of voting for the lesser of 2 evils.
Newsgroups: talk.abortion