From: fischer@iesd.auc.dk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: reply to Carlos (long, 1.5 pages)
Date: 22 Aug 92 04:22:20 GMT
	<2A91DF8B.20361@ics.uci.edu>
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University


>>>>> "Fuad" == Diego A. Maradona (fkhoury@bonnie.ics.uci.edu)

Fuad> But aside from that, I am going to give some information and you
Fuad> will be thankfull cuz next time you talk, you don't sound
Fuad> ignorant like you just did in your article.

Fuad> Argentina was in the FIRST final of the FIRST WORLD CUP ever
Fuad> when they lost to Urguay in 1932.  Adding that to 1978, 1982,
Fuad> 1986 and 1990 will give a result of 5 times (Assuming you know
Fuad> how to add).

The 1982 final featured Italy vs. Germany, a game that Italy quite
rightly won, marking their return to the top after 44 years and
erasing the 1974 fiasco. Italy arrived at the final after beating
Poland in the semifinal, and after being very close to leaving already
in the quaterfinal against Brazil, a game they would have lost if not
for a stroke of genius on the part of Paulo Rossi and a number of
Jesper Olsen style disasters on the part of the Brazil defense.
Germany arrived at the final after a highly dramatic semifinal against
france, an exciting game that showed both brilliant and hard play,
culminating in attempted murder (at least that's what it looked like
to me) and penalty shoot-out.

1982 was also the year we was told repeatedly about this new genius
out of South America, the new Pele, the player that could and would do
it all and then saw a spoiled kid unable to behave himself and being
send off and home before time ad without showing any football of
substance. Four years later the same Diego Maradona, for him it was,
rose with brilliant play and pure genius and led Argentina to the WC.
This is (also) part of the extraordinarily complex and confusing
public image of Diego Maradona. He has given us some wonderful games,
but he sure also has done things that have not been fun to witness.

Fuad> Maybe it is a better idea for people to familiarize themselves
Fuad> with soccer before they do any posting.  This network is for
Fuad> those who are familiare and know, if not too much, at least
Fuad> something about soccer.

How dare you. There is not, and never will be, any such rule. News,
and rec.sport.soccer, is by and for anyone that cares to join in. No
person is perfect, no-one has perfect knowledge, and no-one is above
making mistakes. If nothing else, your own posting should make that
clear to you: that an avid Argentina fan such as use, someone who
obviously collects knowledge about the team can still make such
mistakes in the heat of the moment shows that no-one is pertect and
hence no-one should demand perfection of others.

If you want to increase the quality of postings on rec.sport.soccer,
an you might reasonably argue that this is called for, the only
reasonable way is to make high-quality posts. Telling other
participants to go away will do you no good.

/Lars

PS: "He who flames improperly risks making an ash of himself!"
	        -- Jeff Klumpp (jdk@ficc.uu.net)
--
Lars Fischer, fischer@iesd.auc.dk | It takes an uncommon mind to think of
CS Dept., Aalborg Univ., DENMARK. | these things.  -- Calvin