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From: dave@yggdrasil.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (David Lee Matuszek)
Subject: Re: Mac IIsi sound problems
Organization: Paramax Systems
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:25:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.160639.1106@speedy.aero.org>, jrg@punch (James R. Goble)
writes:

|> I hate to suggest this, but buying the external speakers is probably the  
|> best way to go.  If you don't have many bucks (And who does), Sony sells  
|> some little speakers for Walkmans for about $10.  

Let me recommend AGAINST these speakers.  The quality may be fine (I'm no
audiophile, they sound OK to me), but the volume is very low.  Sound level 7
through the speakers is approximately the same as sound level 1 through the
Mac's internal speaker (when the latter happens to work, that is!).

Does anyone know if the external speaker jack somehow gets less power than the
internal speaker?  If it does not, then perhaps someone can recommend a (cheap)
speaker or pair of speakers that will produce reasonable volume?

I'd be willing to go with a powered speaker if I could find one that is really
cheap (under $30) and uses AC.  My experience with battery-powered speakers is
that they use up the batteries overnight--no one in my house (including me)
would ever remember to turn them off.
-- 
  -- dave@vfl.paramax.com -- If my header says otherwise, it lies.

"We trained hard, but it seemed that every time we were beginning to
form up into teams, we would be reorganized.  I was to learn later in
life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing; and a
wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while
producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization."
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From: jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Low Cost Powerbook?
Date: 29 Jan 93 00:40:23 GMT
	<30675@optima.cs.arizona.edu>
Organization: USC-ISI
In-reply-to: jtgorman@cs.arizona.edu's message of 28 Jan 93 07:56:28 GMT

In article <30675@optima.cs.arizona.edu> jtgorman@cs.arizona.edu (J. Taggart Gorman) writes:


It seems to me that peoiple talk about low-cost PowerBooks, then
demand that it have all kinds of (costly) extras -- clearly missing
the point.


>In article <1993Jan27.132055.1@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu>,
>Citizen cvadsgvo@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu writes :
>>a low cost powerbook? is that a dream?
>>[suggests solutions...]
>>
>>1. poor students like me. they need a mac, like the idea of portable but can

Exactly how many "poor students" do you think there are?  How many of
them will buy Macs?  If 100% of them bought this PB, it probably still
wouldn't be worth Apple's while.


>>port.) for students, internal modem is not necessary. one serial port is enough

(Snicker)  If I bought a PowerBook as a student, I sure as hell
would've wanted an internal modem.  What's the point of having a
portable computer if you can't telecommunicate with ease?  An external
modem is an unacceptable net increase in luggage.

>>2. those who already have a desktop mac and like a powerbook on the road. for
>>those guys, a powerbook only a serial port is enough. if a person already have

This isn't the "poor student" class, is it? ;-)  Actually, those who
would pop $600 to $1200 for a cheap second Mac as PowerBook could just
as easily save a little longer and get a 140.  (Or hunt for a 100.)

>Many people would be able to use the above machine and love it to death, but
>a certain amount of this segment need a bit more.  (I'm in this segment - I
>have a IIsi on my desk and a PB160 on order.)  One group would be the
>programmer segment.  I absolutely need some form of external drive so that I

Realistically, why do you need a portable computer to program on
(except to test for compatibility)?  You going to be coding at the
local Burger King? ;-)

>Seeing that PB100's only hit 700 or so when the fire sale hit, and then
>they went like hot cakes, I would think that 600 would be more reasonable.
>Give the little sucker the ability to take Duo mememory and hit something
>like 20megs of memory, of which you'd use about 10 or so as a ram disk, and
>you'd have a great seller.

ATTENTION: This is your nine-o'clock wake-up call!!! ;-)

We're talking cheap PB here, and you're talking 20MB of Duo RAM?  One
of these things is not like the other...


The bottom line is that the cheaper PBs are not selling nearly as well
as the (considerably more expensive) top-of-the-line PBs.  Where is
Apple's motivation to blow R&D bucks on another cheapie?

jas

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From: hm002b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (PRIMUS SUCKS!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: HELP!: HP DeskWriter vs. StyleWriter II
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:22:05 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

In article <1993Jan28.164554.20883@speedy.aero.org> jrg@punch (James R. Goble) writes:
>In article <1993Jan27.212916.14725@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>  
>hm002b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (PRIMUS SUCKS!) writes:
>> In article:
>> The subject header says it all. I am considering the purchase of a new  
>Inkjet
>> printer I was wondering if anyone has any reasons why I should buy the
>> StyleWriter II over the DeskWriter. I will be using the printer on my  
>SE/30
>> running System 7.01 and basically I will be doing fairly heavy printing
>> using EXCEL and a little wordprocessor printing. From what I saw the  
>print
>> quality between the two was nearly the same. The HP seemed to be built a
>> little better and it also seems a bit faster. The biggest advantage of  
>teh
>> StyleWriter II is the 15 sheet auto envelope feeder. Is there anything I  
>am
>> missing? Any comments will be appreciated, thank you!
>> Hasit
>> BTW- I would appreciate it if someone could tell me approx how many  
>pages I
>> will be able to print from one ink cartrigde on each printer.
>>   
>
>Well, the Stylewriter II supports grayscale printing (100 shades) and will  
>print in the background.  That may be important to you.

Maybe I am mistaken but I believe the HP DeskWriter also supports grayscale
printing and it also prints in the background. Is the StyleWriter II's
grayscale much better? Or is its background printing more efficient?
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Brian Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: VRAM in a Duo Dock
Date: 28 Jan 93 21:00:51 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

fmorgan@vax.clarku.edu writes:

>I was wondering if it is possible to put LC II VRAM into a Duo Dock.

    Well, it takes either the 256k vram simms or the 512k vram simms,
but I'm not sure which. I'm inclined to think that it will take 2 256k
vram simms to give you a total of 1MB of vram.

>Also does anyone know what resolution the DUO Dock will support on a 16"
>monitor?

    With 1MB of vram the Duo Dock will support up tp 16-bit color on 13"
and 16" screens.

-Hades
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Adrian C Ruigrok <aruigrok@bnr.ca>
Subject: Re: Info on the New Macs coming Feg 10th
X-Xxdate: Wed, 27 Jan 93 10:13:51 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:09:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.190613.364@midway.uchicago.edu> Michael J
McNaughty, mjm4@kimbark.uchicago.edu writes:
>I have a question. If you have a Mac LC, and Apple offers an upgrade path
>to the LCIII (Please!!!) will this allow the upgraded mac to have the
>same RAM expansion option to 36MB? Only having a 10MB max thanks to those
>wonderful ROMs is really disappointing.

They way upgrades have worked is you usually get a whole new motherboard.
 In fact some upgrades 
even replace parts of the box so it says the right name on the front! 
All you end up with 
after is your old hard drive, floppy drive and power supply.  Otherwise
it is in every way a 
new machine.  In your case it should be every bit an LCIII.  Actually,
for upgrades that Apple 
shipped to the customer, they charged a deposit on the old motherboard so
you actually returned
it to them and didn't turn around and sell the ROMs to some untrusty
soul.  You would not see this 
deposit if you got the upgrade through your dealer because they pay it
and just get it back when
they upgrade your machine.

Adrian
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Adrian C Ruigrok                 Bell-Northern Research
aruigrok@bnr.ca                  Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
From: axl@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Andrew Long)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Motorola's 68060 for the Mac
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:54:02 GMT
Reply-To: axl@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Andrew Long)
Organization: Edinburgh Uni

In article <23252@venera.isi.edu> jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan) writes:
>Bear in mind also the FlashPort technology, which is currently having
>about 70-80% native RISC code on ported 68K OBJECT code.  Their eventual
>goal is 90%, which they believe will be achievable.
>
>70-80% native on the peppier PowerPCs is not bad at all...

Hmm, did I hear somebody muttering "Amdahl's Law"  in
the background somewhere?

:-)


Andy

PS Anyone like to comment on the likelihood of an LC II -> III
upgrade path?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: bcanning@reed.edu (Benjamin Canning esq.)
Subject: Need info on Apple 21" Color Display and Duo DOck
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 07:24:07 GMT

Hi,
	I'm about to purchase a duo 230 and a dock, and am considering
getting a 21" monitor with it. I don't, however, have the specs for
the 21". Could someone post them?
	Also, I realize the 21" won't run off of the Dock's internal
video, and that I'll have to get an 8-24 Card. The questions are, is
that the right graphics board to get? Will it fit in the docks NuBus
slots without an adapter? How much RAM would I need to put on it to
get better that 8-bit color?
	Any answers greatly appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: New 150 meg Bernoulli Questions...
From: seth@physc1.byu.edu
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:43:31 -0700
Distribution: world
Organization: Brigham Young University

I have been told that Iomega has released a new, 150 meg version of their
Bernoulli removeable hard-drive. My bookstore does not have any details yet,
and I am possibly in the market for a new hard drive in the somewhat near
future. Has anyone heard anything about this drive, such as how much it ought
to retail for? Educational price? Also, were they able to make this drive 
faster than their 90 meg drive?
Seth Leigh
BYU Physics Dept.

Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.hardware:26659 alt.cd-rom:5955
From: sderby@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Stuart P. Derby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Questions on Apple CD300 Drive
Date: 22 Jan 1993 17:03:18 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu

 baron@insane.sanders.lockheed.com (Robert P. Baron) writes:
>>        When is the Apple CD300 EXTERNAL cdrom drive going to be available?
>>The dealers I've talked to have no info on it (not even price).  Anyone know

  I checked w/ a local "superstore" on Wednesday, the 20th (Computer City,
they're moderately up-to-date w/ Mac stuff), and they said the CD300 (ext.)
would start with them at $599, but that they had none and weren't likely
to have any for 4-6 weeks. The salesman said they'd seen 1 cd300, installed
in a IIvx, which was supposed to have been their floor model, but the manager
sold it out from under them...

  Personally, I've decided to wait on it, though if it stretches out to
8+ weeks, I might just break down and get a NEC-74...

-Stu

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From: eyoung@cisco.com (Eric Youngman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: test
Date: 28 Jan 1993 21:19:33 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems
NNTP-Posting-Host: eyoung-ss2.cisco.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

testing. sorry for wasted bandwidth.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie)
Subject: Re: PowerPC/060 macs
Originator: torrie@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Distribution: usa
Date: 24 Jan 93 19:50:04 GMT

HK.MLR@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark Rogowsky) writes:

>Improving the DPI for WYSIWYG, though, is very difficult. Fonts
>could handle it if they were rendered from outlines, like with ATM
>and TrueType. Object graphics could handle it. Ask for a 2-inch
>circle and it will put down a 2-inch circle. But what of bitmaps?
>Icons? Etc. They would all appear shrunken since they store a series
>of a distinct number of dots only. 

  This happens with Postscript already.  The solution is to image the
original bitmap at a high resolution (say 300 dpi), store that
everywhere, and scale down/up the bitmap when you need to draw it on a
different resolution device.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: billy@irvine.com (*** Bouncer **)
Subject: Re: SIMMs question
Organization: Irvine Compiler Corp., Irvine, California, USA
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 03:48:26 GMT

What's the going price for 16MEG Mac simms, and possibly where could I get
them?  Mail order phone number, etc.

BTW, I would need at least 2, should be 70-80ns, and I plan on using them
in a Kurzweil 2000 digital sampling keyboard (it uses Mac sims).

-- billy@irvine.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Distribution: world
From: elenay_creations@tcs.las-vegas.nv.us (Anthony D. Saxton)
Organization: Cyber Sanctum
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:49:25 PST
Subject: Re: How do you set up a LocalTalk net b/t 2 Macs???

>> I want to connect a Quadra 700 and a IIci with an AppleTalk network so
>> that I can use filesharing to transfer ~100 megs of stuff between
>> them.

>> On both machines I'm running System 7.0.1, Network Control Panel 3.0,
>> AppleShare init 7.0, AppleTalk v58.0, and Sharing Setup 7.0.
>> 
>> For the LocalTalk connection I've tried both PowerUser LocalTalk
>> connectors from MacConnection and PhoneNet-type connectors (obviously
>> I didn't try to combine the two types of connectors).  I've plugged 
>> the connetors into the Printer ports on both computers (I've also
>> tried the Modem port, but that shouldn't work, right?).
>> 
>> I've turned on filesharing on both computers and shared both hard
>> disks.  Then I open the Chooser and click on the AppleShare icon,
>> which should display all the fileservers on the network.  Nothing
>> shows up.

Have you verified that termination exists at BOTH ends of the chain? If you've
go a LazerWriter (or other AppleTalk Printer) connected, it would constitute
as part of the chain. Make sure you have BOTH terminations and no extras
inbetween!

Good Luck,

Anthony D. Saxton
Elenay* Creations
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: dlopez@shearson.com (David Lopez)
Subject: Re: Backing up to a VHS tape?
Reply-To: dlopez@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:30:56 GMT

i dont believe it has to be digital. an ex-boss had one of these for the pc.
it was rather cheap and i dont think he had a digital vcr. 


In article 728150637@du139-207.cc.iastate.edu, louislam@iastate.edu (Louis C Lam) writes:
>My friend's instructor told her that he is backing up his PC's data
>to an ordinary VHS tape. I assume this requires some sort of interface
>and a hi-fi VCR (cux it's digital).
>
>Does similar technology exist for the Mac? I can't afford a tape drive
>and I don't wanna use >150 floppy disks to back up my HD.
>
>Louis Lam
>louislam@iastate.edu
>




Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: martinn@mksol.dseg.ti.com (niels r martin)
Subject: Stylewriter II Driver on SW I with Classic
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:41:16 GMT

My Dad purchased a SWII and while visiting here we tried the driver out on my
SW I (Classic) and it works fine, but I have not been able to get the greyscale
feature to work at all.  Is this a matter of lacking color QD or simply having
a one-bit color system, or have I just missed finding an application that will
send a greyscale file to the printer on the one-bit color machine?

Any ideas?  Other than that the interface works fine and seems to be a bit  
faster than the old driver.  It is also a lot more friendly.

Thanks,

Niels

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: gkm@cc.uow.edu.au (Glen K Moore)
Subject: What memory do I have?
Summary: I have been given some chips to upgrade my MacPlus. I don't 
Keywords: Simms memory Mac Plus
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 10:14:43 GMT

Can someone tell me what this memory is?

Board with 8 chips reads NEC MC-41256A8B-12 JAPAN 8804PB (2 off)
Chips NEC JAPAN D41246L-12 8750EK005 on one board and 8749EK730 on other

Can I use these on my Plus and what are they?

Thanks for the help!
Glen
gkm@cc.uow.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jcav@ellis.uchicago.edu (JohnC)
Subject: proposal to help all those people with six-slot Mac IIs
Reply-To: jcav@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: The Royal Society for Putting Things on Top of Other Things
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 21:21:48 GMT

Apple no longer produces any machine that uses the original desktop
Macintosh II case design.  Such machines can be upgraded to the level of the
Mac IIfx, or they can have various third-party accelerators added, but there
is no really clean way to bring these machines to current top-of-the-Mac-
line standards of performance and features.

My proposal would be for Apple to design and produce a new version of the
Quadra 950 motherboard, rearranged as required to fit in the six-slot desktop
case.  As far as I can tell, this would allow plenty of board area to lay
out the components, although there might not be room for all of the 950's
RAM and VRAM SIMM sockets.  The chief obstacle that I see in such a
redesign would be locating the Quadra video, ethernet, and sound input ports,
since the six-slot case doesn't have any mounting holes for them.  The
solution I came up with is to design a relatively simple daughterboard that
connects to the main board at the location of the rightmost NuBus connector
in the II/IIx/IIfx boards.  The would be a permanently mounted board, the
sole purpose of which would be to hold those three connectors, which would
pass through the case at the existing slot popout.  The other slot locations
would remain free for the 950's five NuBus slots.

What do you all think?  (especially Dale Adams)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Distribution: world
From: Carlos_Perez@tcs.las-vegas.nv.us
Organization: Cyber Sanctum
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 12:15:36 PST
Subject: Re: Housings for Hard Disks

I was told that you could buy Mini AT Tower because it has a supply and it also
has the room to accept more hardware later if you decide to buy a Removeable
Cartridge, well you buy the bare bones Cartridge Drive SCSI of corse and place
it in the Tower with the Hard Drive and so on and so on..... Tape Drive,
Another Hard Drive, CD.

The Only thing is they all should be SCSI and you just daisy chain them inside
the Mini Tower.

The other good point about the tower is that you can find them in the Computer
Shopper.  ASEAN Technologies Mini Tower $50.00 + S.&H. Not bad Eh!
From: dreeves@ese.ese.ogi.edu (Doug Reeves)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Use of Floptical vs Apple HDI-20 Floppy for Duos, PB100...
Keywords: duo, floptical
Date: 25 Jan 93 00:01:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.49014
Distribution: na
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute - Department of Env. Science and Eng.

Howdy net.world -

Any existing or prospective duo (or PB100) owners out there which have
considered using (or use) a floptical drive instead of Apple's
HDI-20 floppy?  The price difference is about $150, and the
floptical gives you a inexpensive archive/backup device.  However,
the floptical needs AC power right?
It seems that a SCSI micro-dock (like Apple's floppy adapter,
except with a HDI-30 SCSI port instead of HDO-20 floppy port) and 
a floptical give you much more bang and utility for the buck.

Comments?

D. Reeves



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: willa@vcd.hp.com (----- Will Allen -----)
Subject: Re: Deskwriter/LCII problem
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:40:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

>it's directly connected to the Mac over a generic straight
>DIN-8 cable; I selected the serial driver icon with AppleTalk off;

Three possible problems:
1) Defective cable, see Marshall's previous post.

2) Modem cable.  The effect is the same as (1), same treatment too.

3) Wrong port.  Connect the cable to the modem (phone icon) port on the back of your
Mac, and make sure the modem port is selected when you choose the driver.  The printer
port will work, but the modem port is the standard place to connect a printer, as the
printer port is the standard place to connect AppleTalk (don't ask me, ask Apple).


--

 . .Will

Will Allen
HP Vancouver Division
willa@vcd.hp.com
From: aro@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Ormsby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Power PC/68060/Taligent/Windows NT
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:36:59 GMT
Reply-To: aro@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Ormsby)
Organization: CS Dept, University of Wales, Aberystwyth

In article <19984@mindlink.bc.ca> Daryl_Spitzer@mindlink.bc.ca (Daryl Spitzer) writes:

> > On the other hand, you can buy a NeXT today and have what Cairo and
> > Pink will have in a few years. Oh, wait. Cairo and PInk will be first
> > generation. NeXTSTEP is in it's third release, and gets better every time.
>
> Not to disparage the NeXT, but the difference is that Cairo and Pink will
> have a document-oriented interface (DOI).

Is this an advantage? What is a document oriented interface, anyway?

Andy Ormsby aro@aber.ac.uk