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From: andyc@is.morgan.com (Andrew Coad)
Subject: Re: Chinese bowling
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:56:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.193912.22753@walter.bellcore.com>, shamim@bellcore.com (Shamim Naqvi,MRE-2E342,829-4711,,21273) writes:
	[stuff from Tony Begley deleted ....]
|> 
|> Wrong. Here is the correct interpretation. 
|> 
	[definitions deleted ....]
|> 
|> So in summary a chinaman is bowled exactly like a RH leg break delivery. 
|> 
|> --shamim
|> 
|> ---
|> 	--SAN
|> 

Wrong. Here is the correct interpretation.

First, let's clear up an area of confusion: A RH bowler's style is determined as
if he was bowling to a RH batsman. a LH bowler's style is determined as if he is
bowling to a LH batsman. A bowler's style does NOT change when the batsman
changes. Therefore:

A RH bowler who bowls off-breaks will move the ball from the off to leg if it's a
RH batsman and from the leg to off if it's a LH batsman. But such a bowler is
still an "off-break" bowler against a LH batsman. Clearly it is easier to describe
the various sorts of bowlers by reference to the bowler himself as the off and leg
side is set by the batsman who has no bearing on the bowler's style. I will use
left-to-right (LtoR) as meaning that the ball will move from the left to the right
with respect to the bowler. Therefore:

A RH off-break bowler moves the ball LtoR.
A LH off-break bowler moves the ball RtoL.
A RH leg-break bowler moves the ball RtoL.
A LH leg-break bowler moves the ball LtoR.
A googly bowler is a RH bowler who bowls off-breaks with a leg-break action which
means that the ball moves LtoR but the batsman expects it to moves RtoL (w.r.t to
the bowler!).
And finally, the bottom line: "A chinaman is a left handed googly" tells us that
a chinaman is an off-break with a leg-break action which means the ball moves
RtoL but the batsman expects it to move LtoR (again, w.r.t. the bowler).

All pretty confusing stuff

AC
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From: sutton@dart.ece.cmu.edu (Peter Sutton)
Subject: Re: Flogging dead chinamen (sic)
Originator: sutton@dart.ece.cmu.edu
Reply-To: sutton@dart.ece.cmu.edu (Peter Sutton)
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 01:21:14 GMT


In article <1992Nov20.234456.26616@walter.bellcore.com>, shamim@bellcore.com (Shamim Naqvi,MRE-2E342,829-4711,,21273) writes:
>In article 01GRDOTDJYHU9859BS@ccmail.sunysb.edu,  ABEGLEY@ccmail.sunysb.edu (Anthony M. Begley) writes:
>>
>>PS Still noone can name just one LH WRIST spinner !! Surely there must have been 
>>one somewhere, even if not in test cricket. If so did he have a chinaman?
>>
>
>I must have missed your question. In test cricket, the best example is 
>Garfield Sobers who not only bowled LH finger spin but also LH wrist spin. 
>He took many many wickets with wrist spin including 4 or 5 in a ROW vs 
>England at Lords. The Chinaman is named after a Chinese player Ellis 
>Achong who played for the WI before the second world war. For Pakistan, 
>Miran Bux, a test cricketer was also a LH wrist spinner. For India, none 
>other than the great Vinoo Mankad was a prime exponent of this art (he also 
>bowled LH finger spin). In fact after Sobers I believe Mankad was the most 
>complete all rounder. 

I'm sure I can remember Australian David Hookes bowling them too. Perhaps 
someone with a memory less hazier than mine can confirm this.

Peter

-- 
Peter Sutton                                           sutton@dart.ece.cmu.edu
Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University                          
Pittsburgh  PA  15213  USA           (Too many miles from Brisbane, Australia)
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From: cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty)
Subject: Re: NZ v SL President's XI
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:59:15 GMT

In article <By6qqE.3pH@comp.vuw.ac.nz>, sathi@tahi.isor.vuw.ac.nz (Gurusingham Sathiyandra) writes:
> Braeburn(who joined the team later) was the top scorer for NZ. SL Board 
> President's XI was lead by the test player Roshan Mahanama.

Grant Bradburn.

Alan
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From: smehrot@eos.ncsu.edu (SHARAD  MEHROTRA)
Subject: Re: Out to the first ball of a Test match
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:10:32 GMT

I have a faint memory of Gavaskar being caught behind (down leg side) off
Marshall in the Calcutta test of the 1983 India-WI series, on the first
ball of the test. Could anyone confirm this ? 

	-- Sharad.
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From: ravikane@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ravindra Shantaram Kane)
Subject: Re: Azhar and 100's and victories
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 00:21:25 GMT


India won  a one day international against Sri-lanka in which 
Azhar scored a century in the first innings. The match was
played at Bombay.(India scored about 300 runs), but Srilanka
came pretty close to winning the match , due to a brilliant
innings of 98 from Roshan Mahanama and a fifty from 
Gurusinghe etc( he took 17 runs of an over from Kapil in the 
closing stages of the match).
ravi
From: vemuri@informix.com (Sudhakar Vemuri)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: century on debut
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:46:31 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Nov17.202417.17784@news.uakron.edu> murali@stretch.polymer.uakron.edu (Murali Cotah) writes:
>Keywords: 
>
>did azhar score century on debut -- ? could someone clarify for me please
>cotah


Yes. He did it !! He followed it up with 2 more centuries in the next two
tests. Infact, in his 3rd test ( last test of the series ) he was on 60+
after scoring a century and setting a record when Kapildev declared the 
innings and asked the opponents to bat for a few overs. 

Sudhakar
-- 
Sudhakar Vemuri  (vemuri@informix.com)
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From: ramana@unislc.uucp (Ramana Ramachandran)
Subject: Re: More about Sandeep Patil
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:17:24 GMT

Neeran M. Karnik (karnik@pico.cs.umn.edu) wrote:
: In <00963C46.D07E16E0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu (Murali Iyer) writes:
: 
: >>  Although his first marriage didn't work out, the second one seems to be
: >>intact. In between he was romantically linked to various women such as
: >>Debashree Roy (who is probably best known outside Bengal for her role in
: >>"36 Chowringhee Lane").
: 
: 	She was his co-star in a Hindi film, which flopped badly BTW. Kirmani
: played the villain in that film!
: 

	Also kapil made a guest appearance.It seems during the shooting
	patil was asked to take do slow, deliberate running steps.Kapil
	was puzzled and asked the director what was happening,to which the guy
	replied that "slow motion runs" were always taken like this and
	rolled faster then kapil humourously told "let patil run normally
	it will make a good slow motion run" !!!.

ramana
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From: rahin@scs.leeds.ac.uk (M A Rahin)
Subject: Re: First ball dismissal
Originator: rahin@csparc11
Keywords: first ball
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 10:47:58 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.151708.4117@memstvx1.memst.edu> patrinr@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.144146.10526@schbbs.mot.com>, TUK067@maccvm.corp.mot.com (David Wheeler) writes:
>> Just to set the record straight:
>> 
>>>zorl@hippo.ru.ac.za (Mr RK Laubscher) writes:
>> 
>>>...the highlights of this match are Kapil Devs first ball dismissal
>>>of Jimmy Cook (first time a batsman has been dismissed first ball of
>>>the match on debut)...
>> 
>> This is not the first time that this has happened in a Test match, but
>> the second.  On the first occasion, the unfortunate batsman was Chris
>> Smith (Hampshire and England).
>
>If I remember right, Gavaskar was out first ball to Imran Khan. That
>was Gavaskar's last series. May be I am wrong. Can anyone clarify.
>

If I am not mistaken Boycott was also out once on the first ball by Rodney 
Hogg during the Packer years in Australia.

- Rahin
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Subject: Re: NZ v Zim T2 D3 Tea
From: cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 01:57:33 GMT
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

In article <1992Nov12.101717.12383@lut.ac.uk>, D.I.Patel@lut.ac.uk writes:
> Actually, Zimbabwe has had absolutely no rain for a few months now;  it has
> only started raining since they started playing the current test series
> against NZ.

We often have that effect on the weather :-).

Alan
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From: pvr@argo.rice.edu (PVR Narasimha Rao)
Subject: Re: (none) --- actually about Amre
Organization: Rice University
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 19:28:11 GMT


It is interesting that both the debuts (test and ODI) of Amre were against
SA and were similar. In both the matches, SA made decent scores (but not very
big scores), India started badly in both and Amre came in at a bad position
and rescued India. He had 55* (or 56* ?) on his ODI debut at Eden Gardens last
year when he had enough time to build an innings. Let us wish him good luck.

In the rtecent years, it has become rare for India to achieve the first innings
lead (however narrow) in the first test of a series. It is nice to see them doing
better this time. Full marks go to Amre for the gritty display and to Azhar,
Prabhakar and More for supporting him with valuable partnerships under trying
situations.

It is rather silly that Indian batsmen run themselves out even in test matches.
In the recent past, there have been quite a few run outrs of middle order bats.

Wishing for a nice last couple of days ...

PVR
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From: pujara@grover.cecs.csulb.edu (Dipen Pujara)
Subject: Re: Stats: Imran Khan vs. Karsan Ghavri (up to 1978)
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 01:17:08 GMT

In article <1ep5bpINNdfc@nyquist.usc.edu>  writes:
> In article <9211202308.AA12198@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu>  
B536HIND@UTARLVM1.UTA.EDU (C. S. Sudarshana bhat) writes:
> >Since Murali was wondering how Imran fared chronologically, I thought that
> >I might as well post what I have.  Though not a whole lot, it does show
> >why I would have picked Karsan Ghavri over Imran Khan in 1978 (this was just
> >prior to the Indian team's historic Pakistan tour; also KD's debut series).
> 
> >What do you folk think?
> 
> 	It certainly wasn't Ghavri's debut series. It was akpil's
> 	debut series. 
> 
> 	Shivanand Bhajekar
> 

What do you think KD in the initial statement stands for? 

Dipen
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From: cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty)
Subject: Re: 199, 299, 499 !
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:40:50 GMT

In article <92317.230423U58582@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U58582@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
> 199 - I think Mudassar (vs India) and Azhar (vs SL) (i don't know if
> anyone scored 199 after Azhar did.
> 299 - Sir DOn had one, (other than his 4 300s), I am not sure if he was
> not out
> 499 - Hanif Mohammed in first class match (he I think was definitely n.o.)
> 
> I don't know of anyone who scored 199 and 299 in test cricket, unless someone
> did it in the last couple of years (I don't think so).  When Azhar was out
> for 199, he was only the second player to do that.

Martin Crowe scored 299 against Sri Lanka the season before last.

Alan
From: sturumella@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: First ball dismissaly
Date: 18 Nov 92 12:57:35 EST
Distribution: world
Organization:  Wright State University 

In article <92323.091531SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>, Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> In article <1992Nov17.151708.4117@memstvx1.memst.edu>,
> patrinr@memstvx1.memst.edu says:
>>
>>If I remember right, Gavaskar was out first ball to Imran Khan. That
>>was Gavaskar's last series. May be I am wrong. Can anyone clarify.
>>
> several people have been dismissed first ball of a test match. gavaskar has
> had this honour(?) on 3 occasions- out to geoff arnold(?) at the oval(?) in
> 1974 (summer of 42), out to marshall at calcutta 83-84 and out to imran at
> ?? in 85-86.
> kapildev has had the honour of dismissing a batsman 1st ball of a test match
> on two occasions- mohsin khan at jullundur, 83-84 and jimmy cook a few days ago
> 
> Stay cool,
> The Thinker
> 
> Cogito ergo potum                               I think therefore I drink
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> SXK129@PSUVM.PSU.EDU                                Penn State University
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> May the Fleas of a Thousand Camels infest one of your Erogenous Zones.
Gavaskar was also out first ball in 2nd test between India and Kallicharan's
west indies in 1978 at B'lore.
Gavaskar c. Shivnarain b. sylvester clark  0.
then Gaekwad and Vengsarkar steadied the innings 
srinivas
From: percival@qut.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Aussie Team for Brisbane - Prediction
Date: 21 Nov 92 11:27:59 EST
Organization: Queensland University of Technology

In article <rakesh.722123019@sungear>, rakesh@mame.mu.OZ.AU (Rakesh DESAI) writes:
> My prediction of Australian Test XI for Brisbane.
> 
> 1) Mark Taylor
> 2) Mathew Hayden
> 3) David Boon
> 4) Dean Jones
> 5) Allan Border (c)
> 6) Steve Waugh
> 7) Greg Mathews
> 8) Ian Healy
> 9) Craig McDermott
> 10) Merv Hughes
> 11) Mike Whitney
> 

This team would now be obsolete considering the powerful preformance of 
Mark Waugh for New South Wales against the West Indies at the SCG.
His 131 not out on the first day has certainly cemented his doubtful
position in the first Test team.  David Boon should open the innings
to make room for Mark Waugh.  Matthew Hayden is a class act but lets
not rush him into the team, he has a good 15 years ahead of him.

Apart from this the rest of the Australian team should be selected as
above.  One little ponderous question could be whether to risk Bruce
Reid for Whitney.  Personally, Whitneys got the results in the past
against the might of the Windies and Bruce must prove himself 
physically fit first.



>   <* reasons for team selection deleted *>


- Rob Verhoeve
email:percival@qut.edu.au

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From: karnik@pico.cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik)
Subject: Re: More about Sandeep Patil
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:35:10 GMT

In <00963C46.D07E16E0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu (Murali Iyer) writes:

>Sandeep Patil also ventured into movies and magazines, but seems to have
>quickly withdrawn from the former. The magazine is a marathi sports magazine,
>with a title sounding somewhat like "shatkar"? Another sixer, I guess it
>translates into. 

	It sounds more like "shut-car", and although it is well known by that
name, the full name is "Ekach Shatkar", literally "just one sixer". He
himself writes quite a bit in the magazine, and I've also seen columns by
Gavaskar, and other prominent Bombay cricketers in it. If I remember correctly,
it is a cricket mag, not a general sports mag - and it still beats SportStar
to the top spot in Bombay :->

>This is what I was trying to say when I said his 29 tests were not at a
>stretch. 

	Oh yes, probably three or four stretches.

>>  Although his first marriage didn't work out, the second one seems to be
>>intact. In between he was romantically linked to various women such as
>>Debashree Roy (who is probably best known outside Bengal for her role in
>>"36 Chowringhee Lane").

	She was his co-star in a Hindi film, which flopped badly BTW. Kirmani
played the villain in that film!


>-Murali


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  Neeran   Karnik  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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University of Minnesota         |        karn0001@student.tc.umn.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: shivanan@nyquist.usc.edu (Mr. Shivanan Bhajekar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: SAARC Cricket
Date: 18 Nov 1992 17:20:50 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: nyquist.usc.edu

In article <1992Nov18.221516.19752@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU> kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar) writes:

	Stuff deleted ......
>>>The team was finalised on Sunday night.
>>>Manindar Singh(Delhi-Captain), Navjot Sidhu(Punjab- Vice-Captain),
>>                -------------                --------------------
>>>S. Sugwekar(Maharashtra), Surendra Bhave (Maharashtra),
>>              ------------                 ------------
>>Vinod Kambli(Bombay),
>>             -------
>>>K.P.Bhaskar(Delhi), Saurav Ganguly(Bengal), Ajay Sharma(Delhi),
>>             -----                  -----                -----
>>>Nayan Mongia(Baroda), Rajesh Chauhan(MP), Prashant Vaidya(Vidarbha),
>>              ------                  --                   ---------
>>>Winston Zaidi(UP), Salil Ankola(Bombay) and Abhey Kuruvilla(Bombay).
>>               --                ------                      ------
>Hmmmm....... no players from South !!! That is Indian cricket !!

	There should have been two players (from South India)
	going to Bangladesh.

	Venkat(oh what a pity) Raju and

	W.V. Raman

	Kambli and Maninder should have been playing in South Africa.

	But the quota system.......

	Cheers

	shivanand	

	
>
>Cheers,.
>
>V R Kumar
From: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: out on 99
Date: 20 Nov 1992 15:43:59 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
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In article <1992Nov20.150103.18550@news.uakron.edu>, murali@charles.polymer.uakron.edu (Murali Cotah) writes:
>Keywords: 
>
>>	Of course 99 is fairly popular, I think G. Boycott was once
>	99* as an opener when the innings finished.
>
>	tom
>>
>was Gooch once run out on 99 in W.I. -- can anybody confirm this
>cotah

I think Gooch Was run out for 99 in Australia


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From: govindra@maya.rutgers.edu (S Govindarajan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: cricket-quiz
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:47:52 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


> From VGC@ECLX.PSU.EDU (Venu Gopal Chalamgari) Mon Nov 23 15:14:57 1992
> Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
> Subject: cricket quiz
> Message-ID: <zj*1Hoam=a@atlantis.psu.edu> 
> Date: 23 Nov 92 20:14:57 GMT
> 
>   Hai,
>        I have the following questions, for which i dont have an answer
>  could any one answer these
> 1.who is the only bowler in the world who has given 6 direct byes( only one
> bounce on the pitch the second one over the fence)

Wes Hall (?)

> 2.do you who was the 12th man in the indian team at the prudential cup 1983
> final?

Sunil Valson

> 3. who is the only indian player who recalled a batsmen after he was given out
> by the umpire?

G.R.Vishwanath in the golden Jubilee test at Bombay (1982).

> 4.who is the highest wicket taker in ranji trophy?

Rajinder Singh Goel (Haryana) with 604 wickets. S.Venkataraghavan (TN) is 2nd
in the list with 500+ wickets and V.V.Kumar (TN) is also in the top 5 with 400+
wickets. Any idea where Bedi, Prasanna and Chanrda stand?

> 5.who is the player who used an aluminium bat in one of the most controversial
> test matches?do you know which test?

Dennis Lillie. 

> 6.who is the player who hit a man in bathroom outside mcg(aus) with his
> stroke(/a six over the fence) and later visited him  in the hospital after
> the days play?

Kapil Dev (?)

> 7.who is the player who played hockey for the national team and also led
> its cricket team in a test nmatch?

C.B.Fry (England) (?)

Govind.
email: govindra@cs.rutgers.edu
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From: swami@chtm.eece.unm.edu (Swami srinivasan)
Subject: TV Replays -  Re: SA vs India Full
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 18:46:53 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <duck.722253325@nuustak> duck@nuustak.csir.co.za (Paul Ducklin) writes:

>It worries me. Certainly, umpires are getting judged [and blamed and crapped
>upon] on the basis of TV replays, so I can see some logic behind the ICC
>wanting to allow umpires to make their own *positive* use of a medium which
>is often used *against* them. However, my experience of umpiring and of 
>watching TV suggests to me that PAL TV, at 25Hz, just doesn't seem to produce
>enough data to decide on things like catches at the wicket. I've often
>watched replays where commentators have said things like "look at that; a wild
>stroke, but a correct decision -- he didn't get anywhere near it", whilst
>the slowmo *I* saw showed two successive frames with the ball approaching
>first and leaving it on the second. In other words, no frame showing the
>actual behaviour of the ball near the bat. 
>
>Or do they use HDTV stuff for the electronic eye? I hope so, because PAL-
>quality images are, IMHO, *not* good enough to see clearly what actually
>happened. And, after all, "if in doubt, not out". Mind you, I'm prejudiced.
>


HDTV won't help much. It increases the resolution of each frame,
but the field rate of about 30 frames/s is most likely the same.
So two successive pictures will still have that 33 millisecond
gap. At 80 kmph, the ball travels 22 metres a second, i.e., 0.74 m
between frames. So if the bat touched ball in between, we may not
be able to figure out much from the adjoining frames in some
"touch and go" cases, which is where the TV replays are needed.

With PAL, it will be worse, with 25 Hz, i.e., 0.89 m between frames.

							swami

====================================================================
swaminathan srinivasan
chtm,eece,unm,albuquerque		swami@chtm.eece.unm.edu
new mexico 87131,usa
===================================================================
From: shivanan@nyquist.usc.edu (Mr. Shivanan Bhajekar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Chinaman Delivery
Date: 18 Nov 1992 09:17:55 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: nyquist.usc.edu

In article <1992Nov18.163325.4111@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> nas_ps@jsc.nasa.gov writes:
>Could anyone explain the chinaman delivery (bowler's) ? Thanks.

	It is the "wrong one" bowled by a left arm spinner.

	Shivanand Bhajekar


>
>Pradip Shah General Electric 
>


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From: karnik@myria.cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik)
Subject: Re: (none) --- actually about Amre
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:02:37 GMT

In <9211151714.AA08226@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu> sheth@a.cs.okstate.edu writes:


>Hearty congats to Amare for his century in debut.  I am sure he will follow examples of Vish and Azar and come up with many more centuries.
>In very trying situation he has proved to everybody that he is certainly 
>test class material.  I hope everyone in the team gets inspiration from this 
>magnificient performance and India will do well on remaining tour.


	Yes, great work by Amre, just when it was needed. Of course, we always
knew he was Test material, after all he's a Bombayite :-> (ok, ok, sorry!)
Now, as Dr.Rao mentioned, let's hope his idols aren't Deepak Shodhan and 
Surinder Amarnath :-) Any comments from you guys in SA about his batting ? Was
it dull/dour/dogged ? It looks like only about 150 runs were scored in the 
whole day... or was it a whole day's play ?

>Atul

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  Neeran   Karnik  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dept. of Computer Science,      | Email: karnik@cs.umn.edu
University of Minnesota         |        karn0001@student.tc.umn.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~