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From: grape@suned1.Nswses.Navy.MIL (Mike Grapevine)
Subject: [ANS] Anyone ever port to Desq/X?
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:38:51 GMT



Hello,
        I have been working with Desqview/X for about two
months now. It works fine for running most programs under DOS,
I haven't had the opportunity to hook it into a network yet.
If you are going to use the Desqview/X X-Window System (I was
trained by ICS, no "X-Window" only phrase in my vocabulary)
Toolkit for development, be aware that some of the versions
of the Toolkit will only support certain MSDOS compilers, and
also support part but not all of the X-Window System. As an
example, I only have the Borland C/C++ Version 3.1 compiler,
and the Desqview/X X-Window System Toolkiit I am working with
does not support the Athena Widget set for my Borland compiler.
Before getting Desqview/X, I would suggest that you make sure
it will suit your purposes and that you can use it to develop
applications without having to invest in other software to
support it.

        Michael D. Grapevine            | If it ain't broken,
        USN SWC                         |   that doesn't mean
        Code 4L32                       |   it won't konk out at
        grape@suned1.nswses.navy.mil    |   the most inopportune
        grape@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil      |   time.
From: ebg@atr-hr.atr.co.jp (Ed Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Problems with switching CapsLock/Control
Date: 10 Oct 92 01:55:12 GMT
	<smr.718539956@hitkw14>
Organization: ATR Auditory and Visual Perception Research Labs., Japan
In-reply-to: smr@pki-nbg.philips.de's message of 8 Oct 92 10:25:56 GMT


For changing X keymaps, don't even thing about using anything except
xkeycaps.  Check any X11 ftp site.


-- Ed
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: samborn@lynchpin.mtkgc.COM (Kevin Samborn)
Subject: Re: What would cause a window manager desktop to appear to freeze?
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 12:51:57 GMT

> What type of an action might a client take that would 'freeze' a server from
> processing other requests until the window visibly appears?

The routine XGrabServer does exactly this.  You then have to call
XUngrabServer to release the server.

However, I have a hunch XGrabServer is not it.  Another call that can
make the server appear frozen is XListFontsWithInfo.  This call returns
information about every font on the system, and on with a system like
OpenWindows 3.0 that has tons of fonts this takes forever.

One other possibility is that the application is doing something
un-X-ish, like with NeWS or SunView, or manipulating the kernel in some
way.

You can use xscope to see all this.  Xscope prints out each protocol
request/event as they happen.

Personally, I would guess it is XListFontsWithInfo...

(what application is it?)

kevin
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Xref: sparky comp.windows.x:17745 comp.sys.dec:5411
From: rct@fulcrum.bt.co.uk (Richard Taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: X Under Windows NT
Date: 12 Oct 92 08:40:04 GMT
Organization: Fulcrum Communications

In article <BvtKvK.3I2@mtholyoke.edu> jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz) writes:
>
>I wouldn't make the mistake of underestimating WNT's importance or MS's
>muscle, but on the other hand, when you _do_ look at the demographics of
>the situation, you see millions of PCs with not enough memory or disk space
>to even think about running WNT.  Who is MS targeting?  According to their
                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>hype, the "power users".  Who are the power users?  Well, the scientific
>community is a very important sector of what the marketeers call "power
>users."
>

NT is targetted squarely at the market Unix addresses IN BUSINESS, ie one of
networked machines with centralised file servers. I hate to break this to you
but the growing market is business. This is because the scientific community
already has it's (albeit old?) machines installed, whereas many businesses
are just starting to invest in a big way. This is who Microsoft are after, the
businesses who need to network, but are currently running DOS. It's got to
be the biggest computer market, and will be for probably at least five years
as every business suddenly finds they can't control their information flow
without a server.

I should qualify what I mean by business here. What I am thinking of is
companies of 100 people or less, who have just cottoned on to the fact that
is can be quite convenient to be able to send electronic mail. These folks
are not power users, they use DOS day to day for simple invoicing, parts,
memos, etc. They do not yet have an information system as such, they just
realise that DOS is lacking, and lo and behold, look what's coming over the
horizon, a saviour, NT!

What they don't know is that, if they thought learning DOS was tricky, just
wait until NT hits the fan. The salesman/papers/magazines haven't quite
explained this side of the story to them. If you want to make some money,
get into network administration next year...

I don't see that NT is going to be any better than Unix, since it aims to
fulfill exactly the same niche, and it's got 15 years to catch up on.
However, Microsoft will have learnt from Unix's mistakes, and will also
have a customer base who are virtually on their knees and begging.


============================================================================
Richard Taylor                 DoD #981               (rct@fulcrum.bt.co.uk)
"Would you trust a company who have their bits reversed?".
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Fulcrum Communications Ltd., Fordrough Lane, Birmingham, B9 5LD, ENGLAND.
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.unix.aix,comp.windows.open-look
From: tmcconne@sedona.intel.com (Tom McConnell~)
Subject: cmdtool works with XView-3.0 on RS/6000
Originator: tmcconne@sedona
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:26:45 GMT


  I re-compiled cmdtool using my RS/6000 port of XView-3.0, and cmdtool works.
Pascal Meheut offered to look into it (he will be at IBM), and I wanted to see
what the failure mode was. Surprise! it worked.

  Apparently something significant has changed in the last couple of months,
but I don't know what. I am guessing one of the various AIX fixes that have
been applied made cmdtool happy.

  In any case, as far as I know there are no problems with the RS/6000 port of
XView-3.0 using my patches in

    export.lcs.mit.edu:/contrib/xview3/Fixes/xview3_rs6k_unofficial.patch.Z


    Cheers,

    Tom McConnell
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 5000 W. Chandler Blvd. | The opinions expressed are my own. No one in 
 Chandler, AZ  85226    | their right mind would claim them.
From: gml4410@ggr.co.UK (Lack Mr G M)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: xterm input
Date: 13 Oct 92 13:21:28 GMT
Organization: The Internet

> From xpert-mailer@expo.lcs.mit.edu Mon Oct 12 21:10:29 1992
> Date: 9 Oct 92 21:12:20 GMT
> From: ftms!brown@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU (Vidiot)
> Subject: Re: xterm input
> To: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu
> 
> In article <9210081759.AA05255@uk0x06.ggr.gri.com> gml4410@ggr.co.UK (Lack Mr G M) writes:
> <
> <     Could  someone please explain why, in xterm, if I place the pointer
> <over the scrollbar then any input I type is ignored.   This  is  despite
> <the fact that the xterm cursor is still a block, not hollow. 
> <
> <     Can  this  be easily change so that the state of the cursor (filled
> <versus hollow) *accurately* reflects whether the xterm is going  to  get
> <my keyboard input? 
> 
> When I move my cursor over the the scrollbar, it changes to a double-vertical
> arrow, i.e., a vertical double bar with an arrow pointing up and an arrow
> pointing down.

      *You*  are  talking about the X pointer.  *I* am talking about the
xterm cursor  (the  rectangular  one  which  indicates  where  the  next
character you type goes in the xterm window).  


-------------------------- Gordon Lack ----------------------------------
The contents of this message *may* reflect my personal opinion.  They are
*not* intended to reflect those of my employer, or anyone else."
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: cms2@leicester.ac.UK ("Dr C.M. Smith")
Subject: Remove me please
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 09:20:33 GMT

Please remove me from the mailing list. I'd like to re-join again in 3 weeks.
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: aefros@cc.utah.edu 
Subject: Processing events without XtMainLoop()
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date:  7 Oct 1992 09:43 MST  


Hi Xperts!

I need to write a program which would draw something constantly on the screen
and process mouse events at the same time. How do you do it with Xt?
XtMainLoop doesn't work because it only processes the events and doesn't
draw anything.

Thanks for any tips!
-alyosha
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: GJAMES@HUSKY1.STMARYS.CA (GJames)
Subject: Is there a DESQview/X group
Organization: Saint Mary's University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:31:22 GMT

I am looking for a DESQview/X (by quaterdeck)  news group???


Thanks
From: mklee@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Mike K. Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: need GL interpreter/libraries (Silicon Graphics libraries) for X
Date: 15 Oct 92 01:40:27 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

If anyone has any information on where/how/what to get the GL functions
to work in X, please send email reply.

Thanks.

Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: cjdb@ellis.uchicago.edu (Charles Blair)
Subject: XDMCP Broadcast
Reply-To: cjdb@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: The University of Chicago
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 01:19:38 GMT


Using Hummingbird's HCL-eXceed X server for MS-DOS, I seem unable to
get any SPARCstation running xdm on my network to respond to an XDMCP
broadcast; XDMCP direct and indirect queries work fine. 

So far as I can see with ifconfig -a, the SPARCS broadcast using 0s.
If the PCs are broadcasting using 1s (the more current standard,
according to Comer), and assuming that SPARCs only respond to
broadcasts using 0s, could this cause the SPARCs not to recognize
them?

Has anyone encountered and solved similar problems? If so, could you
e-mail me possible solutions? Thanks.
-- 

Internet: chas@uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: anthony@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au (Anthony Thyssen)
Subject: Re: graphs with double log axes
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 04:50:59 GMT

micha@veeble.han.sub.org (Michael Zuelsdorff) writes:

| Hi,
| I'm lookinng for a X11 program  to display/print
| graphs with double log. axes.
| Any help?!
|
| micha

Try gnuplot  (last version I beleive is 3.1)
  This will to logscaling  on any/all axis including 3-D plots if you 
really must.
The program is a programmable plotting program, you can either create
plotting script for it (I do) our just set up your plot interactivly and
save your settings for your next plot.

Documentation is not very good for a beginner, however it's online help
makes the program easy to use interactivly.


  Anthony Thyssen - (CIT, Griffith University)       anthony@cit.gu.edu.au
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From: davet@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Dave Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: X11R5 for DEC5000 PX
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:43:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvtAGB.GvH
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I've been attempting to get an X11R5 server running on my DECstation 5000/125.
The mit distrubtion claims that it supports the MX and CX displays for
the 5000.  Unfortunately, I have a PX display.  When I run the
X server, I get a "no screens found" error message and the X server terminates.
Is there a port to the PX display?  I see that last week the same
question was asked for the HX display...

Any help would be greatly appreciated...

Thanks,
Dave Thompson

National Center for Supercomputing Applications |  605 E Springfield Ave
University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign      |  Champaign IL 61820
Email:  davet@ncsa.uiuc.edu                     |  (217) 244-1957
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Preventing users from using my screen display 
From: zahabi@discover.wright.edu (Bassem Zahabi)
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:57:49 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Wright state University

Hi everybody,

Is there a way in X that will allow me to disable the remote access to my
display screen preventing remote users from displaying pictures and other
X applications on it.

If so, please send mail to:

zahabi@discover.wright.edu

or reply to the net.

Thank.X. much.


-Bassem
Xref: sparky comp.windows.x:17800 comp.windows.x.apps:1264
From: mongo@hires.ucsc.edu (Lick Mongo Development)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps
Subject: CHOOSER on a workstation (not a terminal)
Followup-To: comp.windows.x
Date: 13 Oct 1992 18:45:19 GMT
Organization: UCO/Lick Observatory
NNTP-Posting-Host: hires.ucsc.edu
Summary: can a workstation offer chooser instead of login widget?
Keywords: XV11R5, xdm, chooser, login widget, workstation, xterminal

We routinely run the XV11R5 xdm with CHOOSER on our NCD xterminals.
On the Sun workstations we currently run xdm, but the station always offers
the login widget, not the chooser.  We would like to run some of our Suns
effectively as xterminals--so that they offer the chooser to the user.

It is not clear how to proceed to do this.  We can run the server standalone
without xdm and force another machine to offer a login widget.  We do not
know how to get a Sun to give an indirect query to its own xdm or to
some other machine's xdm in order to trigger the chooser in response.

Has anybody actually done this?  Can it be done with XV11R5?
Please email, I will summarize.
_______________________________________________________________________________
Steve Allen          | When will the plotting madness | mongo@helios.ucsc.edu
UCO/Lick Observatory |          ever end              | If the UC were opining,
Santa Cruz, CA 95064 |              ?                 | it wouldn't tell me.
From: GJAMES@HUSKY1.STMARYS.CA (GJames)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: X386
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:36:47 GMT
Organization: Saint Mary's University

Where can I find X386, which I assume is a shareware XTerminal package?

Thanks
Xref: sparky comp.windows.x:17927 comp.windows.x.motif:6852
From: tchal@tmchome.UUCP (Thomas M. Chalfant)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: Re: keysym problems transporting X/motif application
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 22:16:47 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: My house

tonyf@postmaster@ims.com (Antonio Freixas) writes:

> In article <HRNesB2w165w@tmchome.UUCP>, tchal@tmchome.UUCP (Thomas M. Chalfan
> |> stevens@scubed.com (Jeff Stevens) writes:
> |> 
> |> > ...the remote site I get errors like:
> |> > 
> |> > Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfUp
> |> > Warning: ... found while parsing '	 <Key>osfUp:        ManagerGadgetTrav
> |> > ...
> |> ...
> |> The solution:
> |>    ...
> |>    Alternately, if there are few users of your program, you could create a
> |>    file called ".motifbind" in the home directory of all users of your
> |>    program.  Put the same missing lines in this file.
> |> 
> |> Tom
> |> 
> 
> The stuff you place in the XKeysymDB file and the stuff you place in
> the .motifbind file is completely different; one will not substitute
> for the other.  As I understand it, the XKeysymDB file is used to
> create a new keysym (with a value that is different from all other
> keysyms).  The .motifbind file maps these virtual keysyms to "real"
> keysyms.
> 
> 					         -- tonyf@ims.com
> 					       (503) 626-7117 x1349

Thanks Tony,
I guess I did imply the formats for the two files were the same.  You are
correct in that they are different; my intent was to get the user going with
some info.  Both methods can skin the same cat (assuming the correct format
is used for each).  I do not keep all docs available from work at my
residence (which is where my internet connection is) so sometimes I speak in
generalities.  If it is unclear as to the purpose or content of these files,
I will be happy to try and clear things up.

Tom
From: fbr@astro.as.utexas.edu (F. B. Ray)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Exodus X-server
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:22:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: McDonald Obs. Advanced Projects Group
Originator: fbr@astro.as.utexas.edu

I'm seeking information on how to obtain the Exodus X-server
for Macintosh computers. Can anyone help? Please respond
via Email. Thanks.

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From: pam@mefos.se (PA Monwall)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: xterm with ReGIS?
Date: 13 Oct 92 11:01:15 GMT
Organization: MEFOS, Sweden


Is there a version of xterm that supports ReGIS graphics??

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: luisg@hadar.fai.com (Luis Galleguillos)
Subject: Resources Environment in X11R5
Originator: luisg@lugano
Keywords: Resources,X11R5,Environment
Organization: Fujitsu NTS
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:12:14 GMT


I have come accross the following X environment variable names to set or
point to the resources location for X11R5 clients:

XENVIRONMENT

XUSERFILESEARCHPATH

XAPPLESDIR

XFILESEARCHPATH


Assuming the directory /ufs/lib/X11/app-defaults

and an application let say xrn  with a resources file called

XRn in the above directory, how would one use each variable 

to direct the client xrn to find its resources?

Are there any other environment variables of this type?

Thanks in advance.


Luis
luisg@hadar.fai.com
From: eddie@laslett.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Xintian Eddie Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: a nice .mwmrc ?
Date: 7 Oct 92 07:15:18 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center


Hi:
   I am running mwm on the x server, anyone got a nice .mwmrc file I can
copy ? 

thanks

	Eddie Lin



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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: shmdgljd@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jay Schmidgall)
Subject: Quarkifying strings: is it really a good idea?
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1992 13:15:43 GMT
Reply-To: jay@vnet.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester, MN

In my application, I'm doing a lot of string comparisons, often comparing
some variable against a constant string, but sometimes variable against
variable, e.g.,

match(s, t)
char *s, *t;
{
   if (!strcmp(s, "THIS_CONSTANT_STRING"))   /* variable to constant */
      if (!strcmp(s, t))		     /* variable to variable */
         printf("match\n");
}

I've been thinking about converting this over to using XrmQuarks instead,
e.g.,

match (s, t)
char *s, *t;
{
   XrmQuark s_quark;
   static XrmQuark t_c_s_quark = XrmStringToQuark("THIS_CONSTANT_STRING");

   if (t_c_s_quark == (s_quark = XrmStringToQuark(s)))
      if (s_quark == XrmStringToQuark(t))
         printf("match\n");
}

Since quarks are currently represented by integers, I expect some obvious
performance increase in the comparisons.  However, since I need to quarkify
the strings to do the quark compares, what real benefit does this buy me?

That is, since quarkifying the string is going to require walking the
string, same as the string compare does, plus the overhead of hashing and
such, do I really gain anything?

Also, how is storage for the quarks handled?  Is there some upper bound on
the number of quarks?  Do I need to worry that if I quarkify too many
strings, the memory my app consumes could quickly grow beyond what is
reasonable?

E-mail me, and I'll summarize.  Thanks!
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: jay          jay@vnet.ibm.com    My opinions and ideas, not my employer's.
: shmdgljd@rchland.vnet.ibm.com    (c) Copyright 1992.  All rights reserved.
: I know the example is stupid,    but you understand it is just an example.
From: oj@miki.pictel.com (Oliver Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Sharing read/write colorcells
Keywords: colormaps, colorcells, XStoreColor, XAllocColor
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:16:06 GMT
Organization: PictureTel Corporation

In article <1992Oct7.151105.27492@stc.nato.int> thorsen@stc.nato.int (Einar C. Thorsen) writes:
>We have an application that allocates the top half of the color table (128
>to 256) for read/write color access. 

How do you know it allocates the top half?  There isn't any Xlib
API to specify which color cells to allocate by number.

Plus, at least some servers reserve entry 255 (the highest numbered
entry), so what you're describing is likely non portable, assuming
you can do it at all.

>We would like to be able to share some 
>of these color cells with another application running on the same server 
>that also uses these colors. 

John Cwikla proposed that you make your cells into a form of standard
colormap.  That's a good idea.

You could try two other things:
(1) Don't make 'em read/write, just allocate them shared.
(2) If you want to share these color cells with other programs
    *you wrote* or other instances of the same program,
    you could hang a property off the root window 
    indicating how the colors are allocated.  Each program
    using the colors would look for the property, and
    only allocate the color cells upon not finding the property.