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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Re: WHICH $500 KEYBOARD TO BUY?? ANY RECOMMENDATIONS?
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:23:55 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Nov12.155748.484@berlioz.nsc.com> cdyer@vulture.nsc.com writes:
>
>Hi everyone,
>I am thinking of learning how to play keyboards and would like to know
>which unit is the best for cost vs. performance.  I am restricting my
>purchase to no more than $500, but I want a lot of features that allow
>me to connect it to my MAC, experiment with new sounds, and has
>percussion. 

If you're looking for something to learn on and to sequence with, a
fully-programmable synth may be a waste of money.  You'll definitely
require MIDI (and appropriate hardware and software for the Mac end),
and you're going to want full-size keys, since you can't learn
anything on mini keys.

For your needs, I'd recommend some of the pre-programmed synths sold
as the low-end of Yamaha or the mid-range of Casio's line.  These
usually have four or five octaves of full size keys, work in stereo,
have velocity sensitive keys, and have percussion.  Many of these now
sound very good now.

Not all of these have MIDI, so be sure the one you get does.  Also,
give a listen to some key sounds like piano sounds.  This is the
sounds you're probably going to play with most.  Also, be sure you can
have at least eight notes playing at once (8-note polyphonic) or
you're not going to be able to play anything complicated.

Most of the non-preset synths that sound good will be more than $500.
Unless you buy a used one.  Someone posted here today about a Kawai-K1
selling for $450, which is a good deal if it works.

>How about buying a used keyboard?  Can I get more for the money?  Which
>type of used keyboard should I look for?

When looking for a used one, you can get better equipment for the
money but you have these problems:  1) It will have a few years wear
on it, this could mean amplifier or mechanical failures real soon if
not already.  2) You have no warantee and maybe no manufacturer
support.  3) Older models often have fewer add-ons available from
stores if you decide to get serious and expand the unit.

If you want a used one, try it out.  Every feature that you can.  And
check into avilability of add-ons like extra RAM/ROM cards and
computer software that can use your special features.

In general, the higher list-price will be a better machine, but this
isn't always the case.  No matter what, if you don't know the model,
you MUST get a demonstration so you can know how it sounds and feels.
These vary significantly between brands and among different models
within a brand, so there are no hard & fast rules to govern your
decision. 
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From: jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (J Lee Jaap)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth,news.groups,news.admin
Subject: Re: *BAD* music group reorg will not be honored
Date: 9 Nov 1992 14:57:40 GMT
Organization: AS&M Inc
	<1992Nov6.184419.22560@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> <BxBu92.DnC@unix.amherst.edu>
	<1992Nov9.085116.10707@jato.jpl.nasa.gov>
Reply-To: J Lee Jaap <J.L.Jaap@larc.nasa.gov>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cmb00.larc.nasa.gov
In-reply-to: dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov's message of Mon, 9 Nov 1992 08:51:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.085116.10707@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Dave Hayes) writes:
   twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
   >>>If you choose to ignore RFDs posted to a group you read, you do so at
   >>>your own peril.
   >>This is supposed to be a good practice?
   >Yes.
   Why?

Are we going to limit ourselves by the most ignorant?

   >>You are showing your lack of concern for net.people here. Is this really
   >>what you wanted to imply?
   >Since I was careful to restrict the class of net.people for whom I
   >lack concern, yes.

   So you also admit that there is a class system here in USENET? That's 
   two of you so far. Any more?

There are those who care to be informed and take an active role (by
exercising a right to vote) and those who complain about their
ignorance as if the rest of the world has actively encouraged their
ignorance and should somehow share the responsibility.  I claim to
not be responsible for someone else's chosen ignorance and wish not
to be bound by it.
--
J Lee Jaap <J.L.Jaap@LaRC.NASA.Gov> +1 804/864-2148
    employed by, not speaking for, AS&M Inc, at
         NASA LaRC, Hampton VA 23681-0001
From: bobdavis@mighty.viewlogic.com (Bob Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Sabine RT-1600 Summary
Keywords: tuner
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:24:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: viewlogi.1992Nov10.182416.14777
Organization: Viewlogic Systems, Inc.
Originator: bobdavis@mighty


I've got an RT-1500 which is essentially the same, except for the
mute function on the rack unit (which I'd like) and the size,
package, and price.

On the plus side:
    No moving parts, so is VERY rugged; dropped it? No problem.
        I wouldn't try hitting it with baseball bat, though. :-)
    Useful MIC input, so works with acoustic instruments as
        well as electric bass & guitar.
    Picks up the pitch of woodwinds and brass instruments very
        quickly.
    Stand attachment of non-rack unit is handy.
    The blinking lights are easily visible in a variety of
        situations including dark stages/clubs.
    The "tone" out feature is nice for the other folks to
        tune by ear.  The "detune" feature is crucial if you've
        got a fixed instrument pitch in your group (like
        piano or harpsichord).
    Price of box tuners is lower than others of similar build
        quality.

On the minus side:
    While quite useful to get in the ballpark, the red blinking
        LED with the solid green (= "in tune") strategy is more
        tolerant of pitch variations than I'd like, and doesn't
        match the precision of strobe tuners.  I end up fine tuning
        by ear after rough tuning with the box.  This has the problem
        of giving non-tempered tuning, but is more than good enough
        if you've got good pitch perception.  A second level of blinking
        lights for fine-tune pitch (how about yellow ones?) would have
        solved this problem, in case Sabine is listening.
    It takes a long time to "track" low frequences on bass,
        especially E and B.  Using the 1st harmonic (12th fret)
        improves this.

Summary: I'd recommend these tuners, but be aware of the "minus side"
when using them.  And don't throw away your ears.
-- 
Bob Davis -- bobdavis@viewlogic.com
"VISUALIZE WHIRLED PEAS"
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,alt.guitar,sci.electronics
From: birkelan@baobab.Berkeley.EDU (Joel Birkeland)
Subject: Re: HV capacitors
Reply-To: birkelan@baobab.Berkeley.EDU (Joel Birkeland)
Organization: SPS
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:11:03 GMT

The place for tubes and HV capacitors is:

	Antique Electronics Supply
	6221 S Maple Ave.
	Tempe, AZ 85283

	(602) 820-5411

Also, these are still being manufactured by Mallory, their FP series
seems appropriate.  Available from Newark Electronics, which has
outlets across the U.S.

Joel Birkeland
birkelan@cs1.sps.mot.com


	
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From: troehl@nyx.cs.du.edu (Tom Roehl)
Subject: Using Performer live
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 19:56:08 GMT


Question:  In a live situation, is it possible to setup Performer so
that I can play a sequence that has a looped solo section that will 
keep looping as I play a solo, and then seamlessly continue on with the
rest of the sequence when I am finished.  I'm guessing that I can set up a
MIDI remote control that will tell the sequencer to stop looping and
continue on.  Thanks

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From: dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Dave Hayes)
Subject: Re: *BAD* music group reorg will not be honored 
Reply-To: dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov
Organization: Jet Propulsion Lab - Pasadena, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 09:05:17 GMT

ray@philmtl.philips.ca (Ray Dunn) writes:
>What we have is someone who, to suit his own ends, is choosing to ignore an
>otherwise perfectly valid vote process, trying to change the rules after
>the fact, acting like a five year old.

Thanks for the complement. I'd much rather be a young flexible caring person 
then a stuffy old inflexible and embittered codger anyday of the week. 

But thank you for sharing.
-- 
Dave Hayes - Network & Communications Engineering - JPL / NASA - Pasadena CA
dave@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov       dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov         ...usc!elroy!dxh

The greatest test of courage on earth is to fear defeat without losing heart.
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From: Mike J. Brown <mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Q: best sampler board for a PC?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 07:17:08 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

Anybody got any idea what the best sampler card is for the PC?
I was under the impression that I needed a 386, but I saw a 16 bit
sampler card for $250 with a lot of features that said it worked on
a 286.  I don't remember what brand it was.

And along those same lines... does anyone know where I can get
one of those <fill in name of the 'best' sampler board> here by
mail order for a good price?

Mike Brown
mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
"The Universe is a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter."
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: piz@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (G G ZIPFEL)
Subject: Having CD's made.
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:24:15 GMT

	First, I'd like to start with a self flame, so nobody
	else will have to do it:

#define flame 1

	You idiot! That's a FAQ! Can't you just look at the 
	FAQ to find the answer. And besides, this has been
	rehashed a million times...

#define flame 0 


	OK, now for the real question: What's a decent
	place to have CD's made. We can supply a DAT,
	and can get the printing done for the inserts
	(unless they are done cheaply by the CD dup place)

	What are typical minimum orders? Cost/ disk?

	Thanks alot,
	 	

-- 
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      Bubby's Benched!         | shooters than you can shake a stick at!
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From: aschwabe@netcom.com (Andy Schwabecher)
Subject: Drum Machine - Kawai R-50
Summary: Drum Machine Cheap
Keywords: Drum;Drum Machine;Machine;MIDI;Time;Rythm
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 03:55:37 GMT

Kawai R-50 Drum Machine
$150.00 + shipping

Call Matt at (415)-968-7189

don't email me...
aschwabe@netcom.com
From: mew3@ra.msstate.edu (Mary E. Whiteman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dementia
Subject: Re: Weird Al's Lyrics to "It's still Billy Joel to Me."
Date: 11 Nov 92 00:36:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: Isis.mew3.721442216
Organization: Mississippi State University


  All I can remember of it is
  "hot funk, cold punk, even if it's old junk
   it's still Billy Joel to me"
      
   Heard it on a Dr. Demento New Year's Countdown once and LOVED it.
  But haven't been able to find it since.....
          -beth/iri

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From: wkm1@nestor.uucp (24102-messer)
Subject: Re: "Deteriorota" (was "Eve of Destruction": Right-wing parody)
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 21:04:28 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.200555.27132@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, jwlr@monet.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer) writes:
> foregone@stein.u.washington.edu (Ah so Grasshopper!) writes:
> 
> >I was wondering about the parody of "Desiderata (sp?)" by National Lampoon
> >called "Deteriorota". Does anybody have the lyrics to this song also?
> >All I remember is "For a good time call ???-????. Ask for Candy."
> 
> I'd like to see it, as well.
> 
> All I've got is:
> 
> "Rotate your tires"
> "Take heart amidst the darkening gloom that your dog may finally be
> 	getting enough *cheese*"
> 
> 				James Willer
> [any opinions above are already registered with the federal government]

there is also the immortal
"fall not in love, it will stick to your face"
and
"hire the handicapped, they're fun to watch"

i used to have the poster in college, it was originally published
by the national lampoon..

and while we're on the subject....
a friend of mine would like the words to Loudon Wainwright III's 
classic "dead skunk in the middle of the road"

thanks, fellow dementoids....

wendy

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From: Chuck.Lavazzi@launchpad.unc.edu (Chuck Lavazzi)
Subject: Re: One-Hit Wonders: The List (version 2.0)
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:55:48 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.020637.23645@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.182608.19729@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
>st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Rosaleen Dhu) writes:
>
[...]
>
>> 	"Can't Live Without You" by Nilsson
>
>Nilsson kinda had a hit with "Lime in the Coconut" (incorrect title?)
>off the same album.
>
	And also "Spaceman" from the "Son of Schmilsson" LP.  IMHO, to qualify
for "one-hit wonder" status you really have to make it big with ONE song
and then pretty much vanish into the ether.  Performers like Nilsson who have
a hit or semi-hit now and then  and continue to work steadily don't really
count.
>Mike Colburn                         =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Chuck


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From: filfeit@rael.Tymnet.COM (Fil Feit)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dementia
Subject: Re: Oops
Date: 11 Nov 92 12:52:47 GMT
Reply-To: filfeit@rael.Tymnet.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems

In article 10447@news.cs.brandeis.edu, st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Rosaleen Dhu) writes:
>
>	Okay, so I screwed up on the Nilsson thing. My problem is that the
>radio station on which I've heard many of my OHW suggestions, is an oldies
>station, so they tend to play only the early stuff by artists like Nilsson
>who made it big later. Are you positive he recorded "Everybody's Talkin"?
>
Definitely Nilsson.  He also had a minor hit with "One" before 3 Dog Night
made it a major hit, and he's got several others.  Not a OHW.

--f2

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   or you can sit here in the waiting room."
From: Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dementia
Subject: Re: One-Hit Wonders: The List (version 2.0)
Date: 10 Nov 92 02:06:37 GMT
 <1992Nov9.182608.19729@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1992Nov9.182608.19729@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Rosaleen Dhu) writes:

<text deleted>
> I don't know if it was Murray Head or not. But he
> was in another Tim Rice show ("Jesus Christ Superstar"--I think he was King
> Herod,

Murray Head was Judas in this recording along with one of my favorite
singers Ian Gillan of Deep Purple who sang the part of Jesus.

> 	"Can't Live Without You" by Nilsson

Nilsson kinda had a hit with "Lime in the Coconut" (incorrect title?)
off the same album.

Mike Colburn                         =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Medical Center                       =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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From: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Weird Al's Lyrics to "It's still Billy Joel to Me."
Reply-To: tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:31:28 GMT

When I saw Weird Al perform this summer he played 2 songs that are not
on any of his albums.  They both were part of the "Food Medley", that is,
every song he ever wrote about food except the ones he ones he plays
entirely as part of his show.  One was a parody of "Black or White" by
Michael Jackson called "Snack All Night", the other was one of the funniest
things he has done in my opinion, was a parody of "Live and Let Die" as
mutilated by Guns 'N Roses called "Chicked Pot Pie".  Anyone know if these,
or any other unpublished Al songs are available in any way, shape, or form?

                                                       ->Spice
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.dementia
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:21:36 -0500 
From: Steven Pei-Han Chai <sc5x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Weird Al's Lyrics to "It's still Billy Joel to Me."

Excerpts from netnews.rec.music.dementia: 10-Nov-92 Weird Al's Lyrics to
"It's .. Lenny Tropiano@icus.ICUS (395)

> Does anyone have the lyrics to the unpublished parody to Billy Joel's
> It's Still Rock and Roll to me.  (Weird Al's "It's Still Billy Joel to Me")?

> Thanks.

There was a parody to that?!?!?!
WOW!!!

Where did you here about this?


Happy  (happy+@cmu.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dementia
Subject: Re: One-Hit Wonders: The List (version 2.0)
From: rjm@cantua.canterbury.ac.nz (Raymond Moss)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 07:53:03 GMT
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, NZ.

In article <1992Oct22.131620.13545@bmerh85.bnr.ca> mhammond@bnr.ca writes:
|>     ``Der Kommissar''--After The Fire

Isn't that by Falco? If so then "Rock Me Amadeus", and a couple of others I can't
remember the names of would definitely count against

|> #   ``Funkytown''--Pseudo Echo

Psuedo Echo have had quite a few hits in N.Z. and Aus. - and put out a few big
selling albums

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From: mchance@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Chance)
Subject: Re: SPINAL TAP TV special postponed
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 23:21:20 GMT

sallylb@netcom.com (Sally Smith) writes:

>The latest issue of TV Guide says that the Spinal Tap TV special that
>was already supposed to have been on has been postponed to some
>indefinite date in 1993.

What happened, did they lose another drummer?

Michael A. Chance
(hey, do you guys smell smoke?)
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From: tabbdav@eng.auburn.edu (David R. Tabb)
Subject: Re: "Deteriorota" (was "Eve of Destruction": Ri
Reply-To: tabbdav@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:26:15 GMT


Hi. This is my first post, and I'm glad to be doing so much good with it. I heard and taped this song off the Good Doctor's radio show a couple years ago. Either this is the song you want and I got the title wrong or this is another version of "Desiderata" no one's ever noticed before. Enjoy!

			      DIMINUATA
			_____________________
				a poem

Go placidly amid the noise and waste, and remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof.
Avoid quiet and placid persons unless you are in need of sleep.
Rotate your tires.
Speak glowingly of those greater than yourself and heed well their advice even though they be turkeys.

Know what to kiss, and when.
Consider that two wrongs never make a right, but that three do.
Wherever possible, put people on hold.
Be comforted that in the face of all eridity and disillusionment and despite the changing fortunes of time, there is always a big future in computer maintenance.

Remember the pueblo.
Strive at all times to bend, fold, spindle, and mutilate.
Know yourself. If you need help, call the FBI.
Exercise caution in your daily affairs,especially with those persons closest to you. That lemon on your left, for instance.

Be assured that a walk through the ocean of most souls would scarcely get your feet wet.
Fall not in love therefore. It will stick to your face.
Gracefully surrender the things of youth: birds, clean air, tuna, Taiwan,
And let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

Hire people with hooks.
For a good time call 606-4311. Ask for Ken.
Take heart amid in the deepening gloom that your dog is finally getting enough cheese.
And reflect that whatever misfortune may be your lot, it could only be worse in Milwaukee.

You are a fluke of the universe.
You have no right to be here,
And whether you can hear it or not, the universe is laughing behind your back.

Therefore, make peace with your God,
whatever you conceive him to be: hairy thunderer or cosmic muffin.
With all its hopes, dreams, promises, and urban renewal,
The world continues to deteriorate.

Give up.

The .sigless wonder

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From: mbecke69@ursa.calvin.edu (Mark Becker)
Subject: Re: Weird Al's Lyrics to "It's still Billy Joel to Me."
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:53:52 GMT

docbrown@eskimo.celestial.com (Dan Sanderson) writes:

>  How many unpublished songs has he done?  I think I heard something
>like "Rice Rice Baby" on the radio, and it sure sounded like him.  That
>one of his?

On the backside of the "Smells Like Nirvana" single, there is a previously
unreleased song called "Waffle King" which is pretty good.

> (Where can I get some of these babies on tape??)

That's what I'd like to know too!  Maybe if we asked nicely, he'd do a 
 "Previously Unreleased" album!!

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From: pjb4288@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Pete - Toonatic - Boulay)
Subject: Re: I sent my $14.95
Originator: pjb4288@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 22:37:49 GMT

Yes, I just sent mine in yesterday. I would imagine it'll take about
4-6 weeks.

I also ordered the super-ultra-demented-Christmas cassette too...

Pete
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From: damatt01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (David A. Mattingly)
Subject: Dudley Moron
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:49:02 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville


What has Dudley Moron sung? I remember "It's Christmas and I Wonder Where
I Am," but I believe he's done some other songs, too.



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