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From: davisonj@bnr.ca (John Davison)
Subject: Re: Moshing? What the fuck...
Followup-To: alt.rave
Summary: pogo
Keywords: punk rock pogo disco techno
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 01:47:51 GMT

>galanter@nyu.edu (Philip Galanter) writes:
>> An even older punk tends to agree...as best as I can remember the first
>> punk dance styles were "pogo dancing"...

        ...which, coincidentally, is what a lot of people do when "Poing" by
Rotterdam Termination Source comes on, although I doubt that the two are
related.


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From: howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: New Moby releases
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:42:53 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <BtAo30.Fqs@rice.edu> mikes@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Shou-Yung Shum) writes:
>another techno import classic bites the dust (goes domestic):  yello's "bostich"
>released by ffrr in the usa on yellow vinyl w/ mixes by detroit technomeister
>kevin saunderson and beltram/program2...i don't know how old this rerelease
>is, but the stores i frequent just got it yesterday.
>

This was on one of the 'Only for the Headstrong' samplers several months ago...I like it, too...

-Howard
From: jvance@maxwell.oac.uci.edu (Joachim Vance)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: southern california rave mailing list
Date: 16 Aug 92 09:16:28 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of California, Irvine

ccat@netcom.com (Chris Beaumont) writes:
>I wasn't aware that there was a socal ravelist...but if one is started
>I'd certainly be interested...

  Well there isn't...Yet.
  
  I'm working on a friend of mine who is a sys-admin to see if I can
squeeze getting a list out of him.  I'll let everybody know the status
of the >possible< socal.raves mailing-list in a little bit.
  If anybody knows a nice sys-admin willing to allow a mailing list on
his system, let me know.  If all else fails, I could run it from my
account.  Not impossible, just not pretty.
  If you have any questions let me know.  
  I'm keeping a list of interested people.
  If you're interested, stand by.
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From: arf@otter.hpl.hp.com (Andrew Farmer)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: I have seen God and his name is The Aphex Twin
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:35:07 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.


In alt.rave, nivekogr@athena.mit.edu (Christopher M Teixeira) writes:

> Mr. Greg Earle - in the afterglow of an XLent combination - pulsates
> synesthetically

>>"The rebirth of the [L.A.] scene"?  It was the rebirth of my existance.
>>The Aphex Twin - ignore him at your own risk.
>>

>   I hope you were still under the influence when you wrote that.  Going to
>  raves has now redefined your life and given you a rebirth!!??  

	I suspect that Greg has been reading the NME too long....That kind
 of hyperbole is just part of falling in love with the wild and wacky world
 of popular music folks....

	arf - giving up food for funk
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown)
Subject: Orb Info Service postcards
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 14:35:02 GMT

[Orb Information Service (UK) postcards, typed in by Mike Brown]
[The front of each postcard contains a full-color image.  The
 Blue Pearl one is blue with white lettering and designs, the
 u.f.orb one has the cover art from the album on it (no lettering),
 and the Blue Room one has the "fractal earth balls over whirpool"
 design from the single, with the orb logo in the center.]


The Orb invite you to listen to their versions of Mother Dawn by Blue Pearl
(a 40 minute 12")

Blue Pearl is masterminded by Youth who as you know is a long time
collaborator of Dr. Alex Paterson (Little Fluffy Clouds, Perpetual Dawn,
Majestic etc...)

Blue Pearl "Mother Dawn" The Orb Remixes will be available from 13th July
(BLRR 73)

Blue Pearl vs The Orb
___________________________________________________________________________

the orb/diary dates

u.f.orb/the album  2LP/MC/CD
available july 6 '92

initial quantities:
the initial orders in vinyl will be shrink wrapped and will include two
specially commissioned art prints forming the first part of a visual journey
returning from the ultraworld

[actually the album comes sealed in soft black vinyl with a large sticker on
 the front. -MB]

free album:
vinyl sold in select independent shops will also include a free album (the 
orb's adventures beyond the ultraworld: patterns & textures video soundtrack) 
as well as the above.  this will be a limited run of 5,000.
names of these shops will be published in 'nme' on july 01 '92

tower records midnight opening:
tower records in piccadilly will be opening their doors on sunday july 05 at
midnight and invite all orb fans to come to hear dr alex paterson dj-ing in the
basement and ofcourse to purchase u.f.orb at the earliest possible time...

but remember, an orb is for life, not just for xmas

BLRLP/MC/CD 18
_____________________________________________________________________________

the orb/diary dates

the orb/blue room
39 minute 1 track single released on monday june 8th
twelve inch vinyl, musicassette & compact disc

the orb/blue room
second compact disc released on monday june 15th
featuring radio extracts & mad professor's remix of towers of dub

u f orb
u.k tour begins on may 27th
may 27th sheffield roxy's (special warm-up show). 28th newcastle poly
29th bradford university, 30th manchester academy. 31st nottingham
trent poly. june 1st birmingham institute. 2nd bournemouth academy.
3rd brighton the event. 4th aylesbury civic center & then...

u f orb
live at london brixton academy all nighter on june 5th
including premier of the orb film...

u f orb
at glastonbury festival on june 26th

coming soon:
adventures beyond the ultraworld, patterns & textures
60 minute ambient video with remixed live soundtrack
________________________________________________________________________
-- 
Mike Brown
mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
"The Universe is a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter."
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: bt178@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David James)
Subject: Atlanta?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 13:14:37 GMT


I would greatly appreciate any info re: happenings in
Atlanta between 8/21 and 8/26. Raves, techno clubs,
gay clubs, and general cool stuff to do. Email is
greatly appreciated!



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From: zirk@celece.ucsd.edu (Karin Zirk)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Upcoming raves
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:06:03 GMT
Distribution: usa


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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: steveh@orbital.demon.co.uk (Stephen Hebditch)
Subject: Re: Q: The Orb = Orbital?
Organization: TQM Communications, London, UK
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:07:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.211426.11496@bradley.bradley.edu> pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) writes:
>In <1992Aug13.201438.30923@watson.ibm.com> danm@watson.ibm.com (Dan McCabe) writes:
>>Are The Orb and Orbital the same band?
>
>No.
>
>>				All of The Orb releases that I have
>>are quite detailed about who plays, etc. The one Orbital release that I have
>>doesn't say diddly.
>
>Orbital are definitely different people, although who they are is not
>available to me at work.

Paul & Phil Hartnoll.

They've got another excellent release out on white label in the UK at
the moment which I think gets a full release in a coupla weeks time.

>It's also worth noting that William Orbit (who has remixed some Shamen
>tunes and sounds a bit similar as well) is not connected with either the
>Orb or Orbital.  Wheeeeeeeeeee. :-)

His more dancey stuff usually goes under the Bassomatic name. One of the
tracks off his more new-agey first 'solo' album was really popular at
raves in the UK back in '88 though.

-- 
Stephen Hebditch  TQM Communications  steveh@orbital.demon.co.uk +44 836 825962
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: 808 State "Timebomb"
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:24:52 GMT


Heard it last night.  The club I was at got the white label from Tommy Boy and
amazingly enough, played it.  Damn fine stuff.  This comes especially hard for
me to say since I sold off all my 808 State stuff in a fit of anger after
their pathetic concert last year.  "Timebomb" may bring me back into the fold.
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: jondr@sco.COM (Karen Silkwood's car)
Subject: Re: Smart Drinks - what's the big deal?
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 18:40:53 GMT
Keywords: choline smart drinks


dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe) writes:
>i took an extremely large dose once and my whole body became
>a bright red like i had laid out for a whole day straight
>and felt like i was on fire.. not a good thing,
>but they guarenteedly have _SOME_ effect

sounds like a niacin flush to me.  i took some megavitamins a while back and
they had buttloads of niacin in them.  i turned BRIGHT red for about an
hour.  it was incredibly painful.  i itched all over, like a bad sunburn.
fortunately it all went away and i was able to go raving that night.  :)

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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ftsomers@cs.tcd.ie (fergal somers)
Subject: RavE-ing
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin (Computer Science)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:08:23 GMT

I have this "friend" who really into raveing, the music, the scene,
the chemicals, but most of all the good vibe at raves. Now I would
like to hear about stuff people do at raves.

There's the trip toys (refractor shades, luminous toys, stuff like
that)
Vicks - I often wonder how this started??
Rub downs - at the raves we go to, most people stretch-out at lulls
between tracks, gives a nice feeling. People around you will just start
massaging your neck or rubing your shoulders down - very, very nice.
They have this weird thing of holding people-up in a bare hug around 
their stomachs and squeezing hard - brings on rushes.
Rubbing your eyeballs - same purpose. 

This is the sort of stuff that goes on here in Dublin.
Got any more? 

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From: galanter@nyu.edu (Philip Galanter)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Moshing? What the fuck...
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:48:09 GMT
Reply-To: galanter@nyu.edu (Philip Galanter)
Organization: New York University

In article <1992Aug19.014751.29881@bnr.ca> davisonj@bnr.ca (John Davison)  
writes:
|>galanter@nyu.edu (Philip Galanter) writes:
|>> An even older punk tends to agree...as best as I can remember the  
first
|>> punk dance styles were "pogo dancing"...
|
|        ...which, coincidentally, is what a lot of people do when "Poing"  
by
|Rotterdam Termination Source comes on, although I doubt that the two are
|related.
|

I don't know about that one, but I've noticed that in the rap arena bands  
like Kris/Kros (sp?) and House of Pain have been doing these "jump" things  
that look sort of like pogoing, except the cool thing to do seems to be to  
extend one arm out at about a 90 degree angle while you do it.

Phil

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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ccat@netcom.com (Chris Beaumont)
Subject: Re: southern california rave mailing list
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 15:54:38 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

I wasn't aware that there was a socal ravelist...but if one is started
I'd certainly be interested...
-Chris.
.

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From: shishka@coos.dartmouth.edu (Rich Yeung)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: techno mailing list?
Date: 20 Aug 92 06:10:51 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

is there a techno rave mailing list out there?
-r.



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From: ahasham@skat.usc.edu (Allen Hasham)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Upcoming LA/Raves
Date: 18 Aug 1992 10:37:46 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu


     August 29th   E=NRG

    live performances by   Utah Saints
                           Return of the living Acid
                           MI 7
                           EKO
 
   DJ's will be announced later

  for more info 213-243-6579

  Look for me  I'll be the one on the dance floor jumping up and down


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From: map@cs.brown.edu (Dancing to the Beat of the World's Decline)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.industrial
Subject: Prime Cuts address?
Date: 20 Aug 92 22:45:51 GMT
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
NNTP-Posting-Host: tahoe.cs.brown.edu

can anyone tell me the address of Prime Cuts?
(if yes, please do so...;)

thanks,

mike


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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: cyberpun@wam.umd.edu (Digital Druid)
Subject: drugs!@!!!
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:42:04 GMT

  Legal drugs that is.  I would like to put together a sort of "how to 
physically prepare yourself for a rave" FAQ.  I would appreciate it if some
of you would send me mail regarding the kindds of vitamins you takes, or
any other types of drugs (NOT E) for raving.  Maybe a smart-drink recipe
would be nice as well...and retailers too.

thanx!

Gil "digital druid" cyberpun(k)

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: tfinn@crash.cts.com (Aaron Grier)
Subject: Re: Speaking of Orbital
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 16 Aug 92 15:23:12 PDT

In article <1992Aug15.235044.5573@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> at907@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Andrew J. Bennett) writes:
>Their last album on FFRR sounded great!  It was done in BASE, and begs
>to be cranked.  The only song I don't really like is "Satan", which
>has industrial-like tones, and doesn't seem to fit on the album very
>well.  The album comes with high recommendations...

	I don't know, call me a pessimist. Orbital really didn't do
much for me. I like The Orb, and Kraftwerk, and the good ambient stuff,
but it seemed to me like Orbital couldn't make up its mind. A couple
of the songs were good, but it wasn't worth the price I paid for the
CD. The songs were just tooo repeditive.

	[Note.. this is my opinion, therefore it is flame proof...
Just to let you know that not everybody likes Orbital.]
From: erik@blade (Erik Manders)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Bset Of Rave-Techno
Date: 17 Aug 92 12:04:27 GMT
Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

gavinm@spider.co.uk (Gavin McCallum) writes:
: 
: >From: shishka@coos.dartmouth.edu (Rich Yeung)
: >Subject: best of techno-rave?
: 
: >if you were to make a best-of-technorave tape, what would you put on it?
: >curiously,
: >-r.
: 

I don't know exactly what would be on it, but it will be a lot of
breakbeat house.
Probably something like:

Side A:
1 Rachel Wallace-Tell me why (and, I'm sorry, it's a vocal track)
2 Skin Up-Accelerate
3 Isotonik-Rush (From the Everywhere EP)
4 Conscious-Higher (from the Conscious EP)
5 Lust-Music of the Future (Isotonik/150 volts remix)
6 Urban Shakedown-Some Justice
7 Prodigy-Charly (Beltram remix)
8 S/O/R-Homicide (Remix)
9 Altern 8-Armageddon (We h-8 garage mix)
10Nu-Matic - Into a dream

Side B:
1 Skin Up-Horny (remix)                      
2 Isotonik-Everywhere I go
3 Conscious-Unconscious
4 Dr. Devious etc.-Cyberdream
5 Messiah-Temple of dreams (Manix remix)            
6 S/O/R-Sound of Eden
7 Liquid-Phog (From the Sweet Harmony 12")
8 Prodigy-Your love
9 B-sides - Moral Soundabuse (From b-sides vol. 4)
10Housecrew-Maniac (Remix)

But there are more records that I really like. This list is almost
random (mostly because I can't think of some titles, like both the
a-side and the b2 track from the x-static EP, and I mean X-Static as
in Dice and not as the stupid X-Tatic!!!).

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From: danm@watson.ibm.com (Dan McCabe)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Q: The Orb = Orbital?
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:14:38 GMT
Reply-To: danm@grumpy.watson.ibm.com (Dan McCabe)
Organization: IBM TJ Watson Research
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM

Are The Orb and Orbital the same band? All of The Orb releases that I have
are quite detailed about who plays, etc. The one Orbital release that I have
doesn't say diddly.

Based on the sound of the two, I could believe that they are the same
bands, but there are enough differences that I am uncertain.

Does anyone have any more info regarding this mystery?

Cheers,
danm
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: miscellaneous Arthur Brown info
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 23:10:56 GMT

johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
> 
>The maniacal laugh at the end of "Fire" is just a hint of what Arthur Brown
>was capable of producing in those days. 

Daevid Allen of Gong/Soft Machine has described to me a little of the
craziness at the UFO club where Pink Floyd, Arthur Brown and Soft Machine
all used to play frequently at in 1966/67.

He said Arthur used to set his hair on fire for this tune! 

One of the Crazy World lps, I think a followup to the one with "fire" is
now re-issued on cd on Reckless Records in the US and UK. 

 - malcolm@wrs.com
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Planetariums (was Re: I have seen God and his name is The Aphex Twin)
Keywords: What were the skies like when you were young?
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:00:49 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

ghond@acca.nmsu.edu (ICE-9) writes:

>> I think they should have raves in planetariums (LASER TECHNO!!)
>> ...everyone relaxed and dosed in those reclined chairs and then the
>> huge hemispheric screen and a powerful sound system to zoom you around
>> the universe. 
>
> YESyesYESyesYES!  What an absolutely brilliant idea. I shall storm into
> the Toronto Planetarium and DEMAND.  LASER ORB.  NOW. 

I was at the science museum in Jacksonville last fall, getting a private
"after-hours" tour of the facilities with a friend from her old pal who
worked there, and I got him to spin up "Little Fluffy Clouds" on the multi-
kilowatt ultrabass sound system in the planetarium with the Zeiss star-
projector projecting and the film loops looping and man let me tell you --
it fucked up my brain.  I'd kill or die to program a planetarium show
around a bunch of Orb tracks.  It's like a Holy Grail thing now.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: lee@muppet.bt.co.uk (Lee Sanders)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: European Comps.
Date: 17 Aug 92 11:30:09 GMT
Reply-To: lee@muppet.bt.co.uk
Organization: BT Research.

In article n36mfdl@lynx.unm.edu, ee3401cb@carina.unm.edu (Student Class Account) writes:
[stuff deleted]
>It makes me wonder.  Do  you UKan's get payed more than us 'Merkins
>or something?  How do you afford those damned CD prices.  I can't imagine
>the cost of importing something from the US!
>
>James

So yeah, we get ripped off by record shops but I think it has something to do with
supply and demand - loads of people moan about prices but buy them anyway.
Also quality of a lot of things in Britain seems to be higher than in the states.
(TV, radio, music etc) I think its just a case of you win some, you lose some.

I've never felt the need to buy an American import CD - if its worth having it
usually gets released here a few weeks later.

Lee.
lee@muppet.bt.co.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown)
Subject: Re: What's that Orb?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 23:56:26 GMT

(bt garner) writes:

>>>>The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds (rave mix)
>It's actually called the "Ambient Mix Mk1."

OK... that explains it.  So it's not a rave mix at all, IMHO.
It is worth noting however, that this mix is _not_ the same mix as
"Ambient Mk1" which is on the UK CD5.  Ambient *Mix* Mk1, on the first
Give Peace A Dance compilation, has beats in it a la the "Dance" mixes.

Mike
-- 
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"The Universe is a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter."
Newsgroups: alt.rave