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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 23:37:50 EST
From: *Eat Me* <C4B@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Malcom X
 <92325.165831C4B@psuvm.psu.edu> <1992Nov21.231922.10189@news.columbia.edu>

In article <1992Nov21.231922.10189@news.columbia.edu>,
syl2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Simon Y Lam) says:

>In article 151433 *Eat Me* <C4B@psuvm.psu.edu> wrote:

>_
>        Chill out dude! What's your problem? Got Yeast infection problem or
>something? Guessing from your name, you are a perverted and most possibbly
>a repressed person. Why? Tired of playing with yourself and decided to
>post just for the cheap thrill.....nay , try alt.perverted.scumbag.repressed.
>you'll fitt in just right. I guess you embarrased PSU people with your
>postings

Wowowowow... chill out ? Hmm, it's not winter yet, but it is getting colder
as we approach December 21st. Oh well, from now on I will start wearing a
jacket when I go out. The 'hot' stuff should come off easily then.. will it ?

Ok, alt.perverted.scumbag.repressed.* ? Yeah, I loved it, thanks for telling me
about it. I didn't know such group exists. I will check it out to find if you
ever posted some stuff there.

>here. Do you know a book called 'SEX' by Madonna? I think you should check it
>out. You need it badly, trust me. I guess your parents are proud to have a

Ahaaa, another tips eh ? Thanks a lot dude. I think I just found my guru here.

>child like you. What are their name again, Al and Peggy Bundy? Take a cold
>shower bud!....Sorry I can *Eat Me* you, I have standard to maintain.
                            ::::::::
Why not ? Just like your first beer. You might even like it. Yum..yum.

Oh well##% ? / ? ..

NO CARRIER
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: kytan@mantra.fia.dmg.ml.com (Kok-Yong Tan)
Subject: Re: who's right & who's wrong arguments [was Re: racial harmony- Yasmin]
Organization: Organised?  Here?  Hahahahahahahaha.....
	<1992Nov17.164124.22909@ems.psu.edu>
	<Nov.17.19.04.39.1992.15280@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
	<1992Nov18.121855.28678@ems.psu.edu>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:13:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.121855.28678@ems.psu.edu> nor@hekla.pnge.psu.edu (Nor-Azlan Nordin) writes:

{other stuff deleted}
   Why it endears me to noone when talking about the moral decay of
   America?  If pornography and extra-marital affairs are not the
   elements of moral decay, then what are they?  A way of life? 

However, "moral decay," as you put it, is in existence (however low-key) in our
countries, too.  It's just a little more quiet.  What the governments have
termed "pornography" has been legislated away but it can be found if you know
where to look.  Similarly, there are extra-marital affairs.  In a lot of cases,
the Eastern philosophy of "let's not make waves" takes precedence in that a lot
of men and women put up with it in the belief that "he/she really loves me and
is only doing it as a means of physical release."  However, from time to time,
there are headline-making divorces, etc.  It's just that the Eastern newspapers
don't put much resources into reporting them, that's all.  I think this stems
from a belief that what goes on behind closed doors should be private, anyway.

And, yes, I think it is a way of life.  Any judgement presupposes a religious
bias (any religion, not just Muslim.)  Tolerance is the keyword here.



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From: chuah@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (DanC)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Malaysia news, Oct, 3, 1992. =>N-Power Plant.
Date: 16 Nov 92 01:58:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: cantua.BxsDGw.2w7
Organization: Electronic and Electrical Engineering Department, University of Canterbury, New Zealand.


In article <1992Nov11.051940.7329@leland.Stanford.EDU> azran@leland.Stanford.EDU (Azran Osman Rani) writes:

>However, I am more interested in what you, or the
>group of doctors suggest as alternative energy resources besides nuclear
>energy. Now, I would say that I personally am opposed to the idea
>of having to resort to nuclear energy. But having a little bit of experience
>working on this field in Malaysia, I can say that there will be an acute 
>shortage of energy resource to meet the rapidly increasing demand.
>Also, nuclear reactors are not that expensive if you use long-run analyses.

Building more power stations to solve the problem of 
increasing energy demand is not the way to go.  Building 
more power stations will result in the demand going up and
up and up.  It is a vicious cycle.  The more there is the
demand for electricity, the more power stations we tend to
build.  The more power stations we have, the more we are
encouraged to use electricity.  There will be a point 
where we cannot build anymore power stations.  REDUCING
the energy demand by making more efficient use of power is
the way to go.  There are many electrical appliances that
are not efficient.  Take for example the humble light 
bulb.  It generates more heat than light!  If we switched
to the new compact flurescent light bulbs, we would save
80% in lighting power consumption!  Given the fact that 
electricity in Malaysia is not normally used for heating,
savings in lighting can be substancial.

I am for using alternative forms of energy sources.  For 
Malaysia, solar power is a viable form of energy source.
Imagine how much power we would save if every house is 
equiped with a 4 square metre solar panel.  Energy 
gathered during the day can be stored in chemical cells 
and used during peak demand periods.

Nuclear power is NOT green and neither is it a renewable
energy resource.  It is not a question of how much uranium
we have.  It is a question of how and where to dispose of
nuclear waste.  Currently, the practice is to dump it on
our neighbour's patch.  Sooner or later our neighbours are
going to wake up and complain.  Then, where else can we
dump the stuff?  Sometimes cost cannot be the sole factor
in determining whether an energy source is viable.

My point is we do NOT need nuclear energy.  We need to cut
down our power consumption by becoming more efficient.  We
also need to find alternative energy sources, such as solar 
power.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: c9110499@cc.newcastle.edu.au (You want to barter my soul? You mean it's worth something? Here, take it...)
Subject: Re: Gossips
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 04:49:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.215633.4019@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au>, u3169709@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Numero Uno) writes:
> thc2@doc.ic.ac.uk (Tse Huong CHOO):
>>For those who slammed Candy lately, she's just emailed me - lacking the
>>guts to post her misguided replies onto the net. Since there seems to be 
>>interest in what sort of drivel this she-twit writes, here are some 
>>excerpts.
> 
> Any animal adjective applied to women is generally insulting, while
> any animal adjective applied to men is generally directly or indirectly
> complimentary.  For example, a woman is a bitch, a man is an old dog
> or a young dog; a woman is a cow, a man is a bull or bull-like (strong);
> a woman is a cat or catty, a man is a bit of a tom cat (sexual prowess);
> if a woman has a face like a horse she is ugly, if a man has a horsey
> face he is pleasantly ugly and so on ad infinitum.

I was wondering where this was heading...

> 
> So...

Then I read this...

> 
> I think she-twit is one foxy lady whereas Tse is just an old fox.

And nearly died laughing.  :)

For anyone to post a private email to the net has got to be "bad", to put
it nicely.  Only wants an audience I'd say, no matter what Tse says.

> 
> 
> c162-cc@po.berkeley.edu (Chua Hak Lien):
>> If she wants to correspond with you by email, then the argument is between
>> the two of you. We are not interested. Please respect net.etiquette and
>> resolve it amongst yourselves. 
> 
> Oh, no please.  We'd missed dearly exchanges like these:
> 
> Tse:	Candy was a lovely girl.  Our courtship was fast and furious
> 	- I was fast and she was furious.
> 
> Candy:	Do tell them about your love-making too.
> 
> Tse:	Oh, it's nothing.
> 
> Candy:	Yeah, that's about right.

Did they used to be going out??   Be an Ex-War if so....so can Tse kindly
keep it between himself and Candy.  If others want to know about anything,
they can ask for forwards of the messages, or to be put on the CC list.

Fal....reply to here.

> 
> 
> mmuhamad@lambada.seas.upenn.edu:
>> More gossip!  More gossip!
> 
> 
> -Num
> 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: smustopo@nyx.cs.du.edu (sofjan mustopoh)
Subject: Re: Motion.... Please Vote!!
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 16:21:21 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.012358.13656@latcs1.lat.oz.au> koay@latcs1.lat.oz.a
 (Jin S. Koay) writes:
>	After reading Pak Othman's latest posting on his "deep" and "complete
>research on the qualifications of Dato' Anwar Ibrahim and the statement 
f
>"...ignorant Chinese...", I would like to urge all readers of this newsg
oup
>to vote on this motion that:
>
>	"Othman Ahmad & dogs' postings not allowed"
>
>	



     I won't go that far. I believe in diversity of 
 opinion.  If evrybody think Pak 'o' opinion doesn't
 weight a dust , then i suggest we ignore him.
 Sofjan Mustopo
From: Shahrol Halmi <shahrol@harper.stanford.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Malaysia news, Oct, 3,1992.=>N-power plant.
Date: 16 Nov 1992 21:31:25 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Nov16.141522.1@kean.ucs.mun.ca> , kshan@kean.ucs.mun.ca
writes:
>..... Why use nuclear power, since Malaysia can resort to other forms of
>energy, eg wind, solar etc.. I am not sure how much it will cost to
>construct a N-power plant. 

the other energy forms that you talk about are not as feasible in
malaysia.

wind energy requires constant strong winds in order to be cost
effective. 
malaysia is a small country with a big mountain ridge running right
through
it. note that the other wind power facilities in the world are located
close to
big plains (>500-1000 miles) that would ensure strong winds.  

strong winds constitute only one side of the equation, tho.  extra strong
gusts (like the ones we get yearly with the monsoons on the east coast)
will
strain the mechanisms like the bearings and the generator and contribute
to 
shorten the lifeof the power plant.  thus these windmills are not very
suitable in
malaysia.


solar energy is still in its infancy, that is the efficiency of the power
cells are still very low, as low as 15% if we consider only the
non-exotic
(exotic being very very expensive) Si or GaAs cells.  thus we need a
very large 
expanse of relatively flat land to put the things on.  take into account
the fact 
that our tropical climate ensures that it is usually either raining or
cloudy 
and you have a very inefficient plant.  solar power plants are as of
now, 
suitable only in arid desert climates.

geothermal energy is out of the question, since malaysia is sited atop a
thick 
continental crust (the eurasian plate).  we are far away from any
subduction 
zones where we can get a thinning of the plate so that we could get to
the geothermal
sources less expensively, that is without drilling too many deep holes. 
Japan, 
New Zealand and the Philipines are countries which are located on zone
where the
Pacific plate is plowing under the Eurasian and Indian plates, and thus
have been
uplifted so that their crust there is thinner.  this is why they get
numerous seismic
activities.


hydroelectric plants, arguably the best source of non polluting energy,
takes up
a lot of acreage for the dam.  we have, in malaysia, one of the oldest
forests in
the whole world.  this alone would be enough reason not to drown these
habitats.  


nuclear power plants  would indeed be able to take some of the pollution
out of our
air that the coal and oil-fired plants have been spewing out, but we
must be careful
and take our responsibilities seriously.  the french have been selling
their self
contained reactors to foreign countries for a while now.  France would
be a good place
to start getting more information on this.


just one man's opinion

-shahrol
(wow, my annual SCA posting!)
From: gt6737b@prism.gatech.EDU (E.A. JAAFAR)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: MALAYSIA: Righting the wrongs.
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:44:54 GMT
Organization: Ramblin Wreck from Georgia Tech

In article <1992Nov22.224859.6537@gw.wmich.edu>, x92lim5@gw.wmich.edu writes:

>    POINT ONE, As far as I can see (especially in the NETWORK),
> there is bound to "have" some racial fire, racist remarks and 
> personal attacks when some Malays and Chinese " get together for 
> a discussion". The reason?????, We do not understand each our cultures 
> and backgrounds enough. For example, there is this common belief among
> the Chinese that " Malays are Lazy " NO!!!! THAT IS NOT TRUE!!
> I was told that Islam encourages "moderation" in a life of a MUSLIM and
		-----------------------------------------------------
> to be statisfied and contented with what Allah has provided to him.
> ( Pls correct me if I am wrong. I need to know ! ) . Most Chinese do not
> know this, hence give a negative sweeping statement about the Malays.
> 

	It is true that Islam encourages moderation.  Please understand
	also the fact that Islamic teachings depends heavily on alot of
	intrepertations.  Quran itself is subjected to many interpre-  
	tations.

	However, there is a saying in Islam that goes somewhat like this:
	work hard as if you are going to live 100 years and do 'ibadah'
	-pray etc. as if you are going to die tomorrow.

	Thus, from my point of view, there is actually little room for
	laziness.  

	It is true that some malays are lazy, maybe because of their
	intrepertation of religion, but I strongly believe that the
	system has been providing too much for them with little effort.
	(but for some, they have to work like crazy but still
	accumulate only next to nothing.)

	What I'm trying to say is that, as a moslem, religion shouldnt
	be a factor to just sit back and relax while there are alot of
	things that need to be taken care off.

	Those are just my views.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: khor@bnr.ca (Kyle Hor)
Subject: Deepavali (was Re: Happy Christmas And Merry New YEAR !!!!)
Reply-To: khor@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:02:22 GMT

In article <By12w6.153@andy.bgsu.edu>, subraman@andy.bgsu.edu (ANAND) writes:
|> > You mean Deepavali ??  Usually falls around end-Nov.  Used to be told by my
|> > Indian friends that it always rain on Deepavali (or the day before).  It was
|> > connected to the legend of Deepavali itself.  Had never been able to proof
|> > them wrong so far :).
|> > 
|> > Could someone knowledgeable please fill us in with the stories of Deepavali?
|> > Would be a great diversion from all those network noise. 
|> > 
|>      Well, as an Indian I never heard this story before. I know in the past
|> it usually rained the day before Deepavali but not anymore. I don't think it
|> rained this year tho. I could be wrong. For this year Deepavali felt on 
|> Oct. 24th. 

No rain this year?  Oh geez, what a disappointment.  And you mean it's
over already?  Too late to go mooching for those nice coconut tarts
then.  BTW, what were they called?
 
|>      According to Hinduism, Lord Krishna killed the evil god on this day.
|> Evil god was creating troubles to the human being for several years until one
|> day all the humans cried to Lord Krishna for help. That's when Lord Krishna
|> enggaged in battle with him and won. So, people were living in the darkness
|> afraid of this evil. After he been killed, the darkness has gone and people 
|> could go out and be happy.  That's why Deepavali is also referred as a 
|> festival of lights. We put ligts outside to celebrate the victory with the
|> hope the rest of our life will be filled with brightness.
|>      That's all I can say about Deepavali without going to deep into 
|> the religous thing.
|> 
If my memory did not fail me, the rain was suppose to symbolize the
great battle.  I remember going camping against my Indian friend's
advise.  And got real miserable huddling in the tent.

...Kyle

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: operator@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Malaysia Cup.
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:38:41 GMT


Hi there,

I was going thru the postings and have not seen anything about the Malaysia Cup
finals...can someone let us (Malaysiaian soccer fans) know if the finals have
been played ? and if so what was the outcome, if possible some details about 
the match.

cheers and terima kaseh.
From: x92lim5@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: MALAYSIA: Righting the wrongs.
Date: 23 Nov 92 00:31:26 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Nov22.224859.6537@gw.wmich.edu>, x92lim5@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>   
> 
>    POINT TWO, I have read ( in the NETWORK ) that some students have
> studied for 18 but still have not been given the chance to further their
> studies, locally or abroad . It's very sad and pitiful. Someone suggested
> to eliminate the local "university racial quota". However, I  believe
> we cannot do this because it will infringe the rights of Malays, as
> stated in the Constitution. BUT I feel the Malaysian Government should
> set up more universities and perhaps open up the doors of MARA ( Majlis
> Amanah RAKYAT) to those people I who I have mentioned. (hence the RAKYAT
> in MARA)
> 
Sorry guys, line 2, Should be 18 hours a day.

> 
> 
> 
>                       Let Diversity Be Our Strength
>                           NOT OUR WEAKNESS.
> 
> 
> 
> I'm open for comments and CONSTRUCTIVE critism.
> 
> 
> 
> PEACE..HAVE IT OR LOSE IT......
> 
> 
> STANLEY LIM aka (ZIGGY)
> 
> Kalamazoo, Michigan..
> 
> 
>                          
>   
> 
>  
>
From: renoir@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (Khemdut Purang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: flame wars
Date: 15 Nov 92 17:08:34 GMT
Organization: Temple University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5



		I don't really mind flame wars or any
		other wars, but please, conduct your
		wars in intelligible language!

		Too often I come across articles that
		I simply cannot read because the spelling
		is all wrong, or the writer seems to
		know nothing about grammar.

		And I think this is a waste because I
		feel some of the posters have something
		significant to say.

		So, please write a draft of your article
		before you post it. Get it checked by a
		computer or by someone better at writing
		than you are. Then you can go ahead and post
		it. At least it won't be all gibberish.


		Can or not ?


		kpurang
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: ycw@engr.uark.edu (WONG YEK CHING)
Subject: Our beloved Pak Othman
Organization: University of Arkansas
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 06:15:51 GMT

Pak Othman..can you teach me how to beg for goverment schoolship..Please !!

Pak, i felt sayang for you that you have been bond by the schoolship agreement
for 10 year, and been poor in NZ...really i felt that you certainly deserved
no bonding and being rich in NZ (like driving Ferrari and enjoy night life..) 
when you study in NZ....Pak ! asked our goverment give more money... so that one
day maybe my son (certainly his chances of getting his "free money" is very slimbcos i am a malaysian no bumiputera) )o and your son can enjoy more at the taxpayer expense !!

Pak ! i really admire some of the goverment sponsored "student" here.  They
can enjoy their weekend and i have to work for 25 hour to pay for my living
expenses and school.... i really fed-up...Pak !!

Tolong Tolong Pak !! teach me !!!!

ycw   

.... this article post is solely my responsibity ......
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Motion.... Please Vote!!
From: Amos.Omondi@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Amos Omondi)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 03:14:22 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand.

>>>
>>>	"Othman Ahmad & dogs' postings not allowed"
>>>


This grouping if offensive to dogs.
From: iscksc@nuscc.nus.sg (Mr Khoo Siau Cheng)
Subject: Re: Othman's argument
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 05:07:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.043413.27874@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:
>Heng Wei Osbert Tan (fellow@cs.utexas.edu) wrote:
>: I'll appreciate if Othman can point out ONE law, regulation, or government
>: practices that may have put our Malay brothers in a disadvantage situation.
>
>There was also an uproar when PM wanted to ban the use of the common Malay
>greetings of :
>bismillah, alhamdulillah, in public rallies.I'm not sure what actually happens
>now, may be someone or groups of people may have put some sense to the
>Singapore government.
>

I think you are referring to the then Foreign Minister, not the PM. As
I understand, the FM misunderstood these terms, and made some stupid
statements about that. Then, the matter was settled after the Muslim
association in Singapore explained the terms to him. Therefore, there
was no such ban at all, and this is confirmed by my Malay friends. Do
you, Othmand, think that this is a law or a pratice that discriminates
against Malays? 

>	There is talk of putting a committe to look into "religous" matters in
>politics, under the elected President.
>

The law, and the committee, aims to resolve any conflict among
religions when some religious matters get into politics. This, the
government believes, is a good way to achieve harmony in the
co-existence of different religions.

Under the current context that you are providing evidence about laws
and regulations that discriminate against Malay, Othmand, are you then 
implying that only Malay has religion, and therefore being
discriminated? 

Lastly, I hope you, Othmand, can do us a favour, by conveying the
truth to your Malay friends. 

-- Siau Cheng