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From: glenm@bnr.ca (Glen Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Any nude beaches/clubs near Hallifax, N.S.
Date: 10 Nov 92 14:18:38 GMT
Reply-To: glenm@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

In article <1992Nov10.065622.24110@ousrvr.oulu.fi>, dfo@tko.vtt.fi (Foxvog Douglas) writes:
|> I just received email from someone who was wondering if there
|> are any nude beaches or clubs near Hallifax, Nova Scotia.

Well, Crescent Beach, on the south side of town, definitely has at least
a CO section. There are also a couple of clubs in N.S., but I'm not
sure offhand where they are in relation to Halifax.

Your friend should feel free to send me email if he wants further details,
as those details are at home (where I can be nude).

obnude: it's -6, and too cold to be nude for long ...

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From: cs000rdw@selway.umt.edu (Richard D Warner)
Subject: Re: Dangling Banjos
Summary: Right on, bro
Organization: University of Montana
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 05:48:21 GMT

	Your comments on the bible "quote" are appropriate, although for me
to really comment I should probably post to a different group.  I was talking
with a person the other day that was shocked when I told her I wasn't a 
Christian.  She promptly told me that she loved God.  I told her I did too.
The more I get to know Christianity the more it reminds me of that egg in my
refridgerator that's been there for years...  It looks ok on the surface, but
I don't dare crack it open.
	Every now and then a horror story gets posted here about someone
harmlessly taking a nude photo of the family, and then winding up having 
their children put in foster homes, etc.  It's hard to say how much this
thing really happens because the info is usually third- or fourth-hand, but
I can easily see it happening by some self-righteous fundamentalist who in
the name of God tears up a family to validate his own salvation (from hell).

Rich
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From: howeird@hpl.hp.com (Howard Stateman)
Subject: Re: Agreements when modeling for photos
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 06:28:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HP Research Grants Program
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: In <1992Nov5.151246.18176@cis.ohio-state.edu> fontana@celery.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Fontana) writes:
: >In our campus newspaper, there are often "wanted" ads from art students
: >seeking models for nude photo studies.  I haven't done something like 
: >this before, but I don't really have any qualms about it, as long as
: >there is an understanding with the photographer on appropriate use
: >of the images.

In this modern age of scanning and color copying, it's just as easy
(perhaps easier) to infinitely reproduce a piece of art as it is a
photograph. So what follows applies to both.

First, if a photo is used to illustrate a news article, it's not considered
covered by the usual model consent laws. I was an AP photographer for a
couple of years, and my photos of nudes on the beach, and even of nudes
modeling for a local college art class, were used without consent of the
models in several newspapers. It was all perfectly legal, because the
photos were part of a news story. The editors, however, all picked shots
which did not show genetilia (not because of any laws against it, just
because they were old fogies).

On the other hand, when I was shooting nudes for girlie magazines, all the
magazines had their own model release, and their guidelines to
photographers were unanimous in demanding that the model be read the
release befor he/she signed it, the it be signed only after the photographs
were taken (so the models didn't complain that they didn't know I was going
to take "THAT KIND" of picture when they signed) and that the model be paid
and a receipt be signed by the model. Part of the legal hassle is you have
to prove that the model was paid at least $1.

-howeird
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From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Berkeley's Naked Guy
Date: 10 Nov 92 23:29:01 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1dovmoINNpho@network.ucsd.edu>, middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager) writes:

> I heard a radio news report that U.C. Berkeley made a rule against nudity
> because of complaints about the naked guy.  One report I heard that I wish
> someone could confirm or disprove is that he was spending time hanging
> around the womens dorm areas at night.  

Are they sure it was him and not just an imposter?

Also, doesn't Saturday Night Live have a character called
"Naked Sensitive Guy".  I keep thinking about this ever time I see one of
these postings.

Terry
-- 
        INTERNET: tjw+@pitt.edu         BITNET: TJW@PITTVMS
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"There can be only one!"                                  - The Highlander
"There should have been only one. I want my money back!"  - Terry
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From: vcw1@Isis.MsState.Edu (Vince Worbington)
Subject: Re: Christian nudes
Organization: Mississippi State University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:19:16 GMT


> I have to wonder about that.  What is lust?  A desire to have sex?  Is
> that sin?

No, that is not at all what lust is.  Lust is a conscious decision
to have sex or fanticize about having sex with someone who is not
your spouse.  Note that by the Biblical definition you cannot lust after
your wife, because "if a man looks at a woman to lust after her, he
has commited adultry with her in his heart."  Thus since you cannot
commit adultry with your wife, by this verse you cannot lust after her.
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From: ran@cbnews.cb.att.com (Robert A. Neinast)
Subject: Re: Driving without shoes
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:06:51 GMT

In article <32100002@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com>, adamb@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Adam Barnett) writes:
> I hate to put a damper on this particular "Urban Legend,"
> but the fact of the matter is that it is illegal to drive
> without shoes in the state of Arizona.  

I hate to start a flame war, but do you (and the others
claiming that it is illegal) really know of what
you speak?  As I posted in an earlier article, I looked it
up (what? look something up--this is netnews) in the
AAA Digest of Driving Laws, and they claim it is permitted.

I've also specifically looked at Ohio (where I live) Laws,
and found no such law.

So, how about those of you who are stating so categorically
that it is illegal actually go look it up and give us
Chapter and Verse, and maybe even tell us exactly what it says.
Until then, don't expect me to believe that you know what
you're talking about.


Bob
-- 
                                                                  _
". . . and shun the frumious Bandersnatch."                 Nipetlahuini.
Robert Neinast (ran@cblpo.att.com)
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From: Richard.Mathews@West.Sun.COM (Richard M. Mathews)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: The Naked Guy featured in 11/5 SJ Merc
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:57:30 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Sunsoft Inc., Los Angeles, CA.
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Originator: richard@astro.West.Sun.COM

williamt@athena.Eng.Sun.COM (Dances with Drums) writes:

>    Things on campuses don't seem to get alot of attention in the media.
>I have yet to hear anything on the news about the students that were
>maced and beaten yesturday by police at UCSC during a campus
>demonstration.  I guess that stuff just isn't newsworthy anymore.

It made the news here in Los Angeles.

     Richard M. Mathews			F oster 
					 E stonian-Latvian-Lithuanian
Richard.Mathews@West.Sun.COM		  I ndependence and
					   F reedom!
From: millman@indigo.bear.com (Phillip Millman)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Newest Nudist ;-)
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:49:55 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


OK, OK, I realize that this is knd of silly (but considering this
group lately we could use a laugh and a smile.)

On Oct 24, 1992 at 2:56 am, Bluma Sarah Millman came into this world
naked as me at Black's Beach.

Stats:
	7.5 lbs.
	20 inches (and all lungs!)



--
Phillip Millman					millman@bear.com
The opinions expressed are those of Phillip Millman and not that of 
Bear Stearns & Co. Inc.  I think it is better that way.
From: stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender)
Subject: Re: handicap access at resorts?
Organization: University of Oregon Chemistry Stores
Distribution: rec
Date: 7 Nov 92 12:05:36

   brian@ganglion.Canada.Sun.COM (Brian Onn - OpCom Staff) writes:

   >In my particular case I'm in a wheelchair, yet very independant.  
   >I'd like to know what kind of barriers I might come across if I were
   >to vacation at one of the many resorts discussed here.  Has anyone
   >ever thought about this?  Have you seen other wheelchair bound naturists
   >in your travels?

Gosh, I hope nobody requires them to be tied into their chairs
with ropes.  I prefer the term "wheelchair user" to
"wheelchair-bound person."

   >The kinds of things that would make it difficult: narrow hallways,
   >narrow doors, high steps up into buildings, stairs, rocks, woodchips, 
   >sand (dirt and grass is OK), inadequate washroom facilities.

Unfortunately, I too am something of a lurker here and don't have
any experience with nudist resorts.  However, you have identified
most of the typical access barriers you might find in buildings
in an outdoor rural area.  I suspect that you'd have to check
with your local resorts to find out what kind of facilities they
have.  I suspect that if you discuss your particular access needs
with them they have a good chance of being willing to work with
you on providing things like ramps and better washroom
facilities.  Because of the broad appeal of naturism there is
even a good chance that many resorts will already have disabled
members.

   >Before I had my disabling accident, I was seriously considering visiting
   >a resort.  I still haven't lost that desire, I just don't know if it is
   >still a feasible endeavor.

It's probably feasible to the extent that you are willing to
pursue it.  Don't just sit at home because you aren't sure
whether it will be easy enough.

In article <arms.721116280@spedden> arms@cs.UAlberta.CA (Bill
Armstrong) writes:

   Hi Brian,

   I once saw a "wheelchair bound" person sunbathing nude in the English
   garden in the centre of Munich.  Both his legs were amputated above
   the knee.  Though alone, he somehow managed to get out of the chair
   and undress on the grass, then reverse the process.  Pretty cool, I
   thought!

"Somehow managed?"  Don't be so surprised; it's not that amazing
of a feat.  Try undressing yourself sometime while sitting on the
floor without using your legs.  Is it that hard?  Now imagine not
having the bulk of your legs in the way -- it would actually make
it easier.
--
Steve VanDevender 	stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu
"Bipedalism--an unrecognized disease affecting over 99% of the population.
Symptoms include lack of traffic sense, slow rate of travel, and the
classic, easily recognized behavior known as walking."
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From: jimc@megatek.com (Jim Campbell)
Subject: Re: Help Preserve Civil Rights in Colorado
Reply-To: jimc@megatek.com
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:30:52 GMT

In article <1dutk8INNn8a@network.ucsd.edu> middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager) writes:
>
>In article <1992Nov12.093708.1@vax.sonoma.edu> abel@vax.sonoma.edu writes:
>>                    Could someone familiar with the Colorado 
>>amendment (like maybe Gina) explain to us what's up?
>
>There is probably a lot of good, interesting and useful information
>and discussion about this topic (which seems to be getting away from
>nudity) in an appropriate newsgroup.  Maybe someone can point people
>to the appropriate groups?

	The link to nudity here is perhaps a bit political, instead of 
recreational (REC.nude). Maybe alt.politics or some-such might be more
appropiate, BUT...... 
        If we allow fundalmentlists to have their way with this minority or 
that minority, how can we expect any support from THEM when it's our turn 
to be targeted in a big way by the fundalmentlists? 
        You know that saying about people looking the other way in a certain 
country when the authorities would 'take away' certain people, and then certain
minorities, during the 1930s and 40s.... 
        Let's ally together in some way and hold the extremists in check... 
  
        By the way, I was a little dis-appointed in the low number of votes 
for me in my presidential bid.   :^) 
  
 
-- 
Jim Campbell			|	"Remember to tweet!"
jimc@megatek.com		|	Is it my imagination, or am
WB6ZPB				|	I just imaginning things?
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From: s7356911@deimos.ucc.umass.edu (DP)
Subject: Re: Art Modelling
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: nude art modelling photography drawing, & the `E-word'
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 07:29:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov09.035933.127590@zeus.calpoly.edu>, ddvorak@zeus.calpoly.edu (David M. Dvorak) writes...
>Nude modelling sounds interesting, but I would be embarassed to do it.
>One stray thought might cause a hard on or at least soft on.  Has any
>man had this problem before, in front of a class?
>ddvorak@demeter.calpoly.edu

	Nope,  been modelling for over three years now, and I've never 
got a woody while doing it.  This includes modelling for a class attended
by a friend I was extremely attracted to (wearing a miniskirt and a trans-
parent blouse-- she was, not me ;-> ) and modelling with other nude models.
Something about being a little anxious in a drafty room that prevents it,
I think.   Besides,  even it ever does happen, it shouldn't cause you any
grief --- I'm sure most artists have seen a few erections.  It's not
really a ``problem''.
	(I have heard of one model, ahem, `passing gas'' rather loudly ---
now THAT'S embarassing...)
					dp

_/\  /\ dp: (daniel prosser) == S7356911@UCSVAX.UCS.umass.edu  /\
   \/  \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/  \/~~~~~
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From: dfo@tko.vtt.fi (Foxvog Douglas)
Subject: Public saunas in Berlin?
Organization: VTT
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 07:48:56 GMT

I am travelling to Berlin on a business trip and will have Sunday there.
I understand that there are a number of recreational sauna, etc. places
in germany (I posted an article about it.), and hope some such
thing exists in Berlin.  Does anyone know of any such spot which might
be open in mid-November?  I will be there this weekend.  THanks.


-- 
doug foxvog     
dfo@tko.vtt.fi
From: middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: NEW: rec.nude FAQ
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:44:34 GMT
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>Mark.Cornick@launchpad.unc.edu (Mark Cornick) writes:
>>We've already got an FAQ, compiled by Steve Pierce... or did Steve pass it
>>off to you?
>
In article <> john@rtfm.mlb.fl.us (John Blasik) writes:
>Steve is making some changes to the FAQ and hopes to have it back on the
>net by Oct 15. Patience please.


On the other hand, if you read the FAQ under discussion you would quickly
become aware it was NOT a serious attempt to replace Steves work.

I don't remember who posted it but I think it is worthy of a posting in
rec.humor.funny, I hope you will submit it to whoever is running that
group now.  (Since most people don't read FAQs I suspect many here missed
out on the humor.  Too summarise it had one question phrased 10 ways and
the answer was the same for all ten questions.  I won't say what the 
question was except it was the most FAQ in this group.)
From: arnett@unixg.ubc.ca (Bill Arnett)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: handicap access at re
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:12:22 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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In article <1992Nov12.021926.1@camins.camosun.bc.ca> alumni106@camins.camosun.bc.ca (Max Sterling) writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.4225.7935@dosgate>, "jim clements" <jim.clements@canrem.com> writes:
>
>> And Four Seasons is open year around although most of the
>> activities are indoors at this time of year <G> -- nice as
>> it is, it is still in Canada. Cheers!
>
>Well, just because something's in Canada doesn't necessarily mean the 
>weather MUST be frigid. For example, over here in Victoria, BC, it's 
>quite mild all year long, except for the occasional snow in Feb/March 
>(and I mean VERY occasional!). Speaking of which, is there anyone out 
>there who knows of any CO beaches in the Victoria area? Anywhere on the 

Not that I want to debate Canadian weather, but you must be a *lot*
heartier than I if you are looking for a beach a this time of year!! :-)

(For those of you not here in the warm corner of Canada, I don't think
the temp has dropped below freezing yet, but it's been pretty cold (10
degrees or thereabouts) and wet for most of the last month.  Wreck Beach
is still nice for watching the sun set, but won't be useful for tanning
until March or April. Yes, I've been nude on Wreck by mid-March....Had
to stay out of the wind, but the sun was quite pleasant....)

Yes, there are a few beaches near Victoria.  I'll post directions
tonight (if I have time).  Feel free to email me.

Bill.
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From: dean@snake.cs.uidaho.edu (Dean Collins)
Subject: Re: The shocking 1930s
Keywords: France, nudism
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 07:01:21 GMT
Reply-To: dean@snake.cs.uidaho.edu (Dean Collins)
X-Posted-From: clearwater.cs.uidaho.edu
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In article <1287@shrike.com>, tmd@austin.lockheed.com (Tom Davis) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov3.165947.21823@dxcern.cern.ch> paul@ecpdstea.cern.ch
|> (Paul Burkimsher) writes:
|> 
|> >Paris, Thursday: Considerable interest and controversy has been
|> >aroused by the announcement that a film showing the activities of a
|> >"nudist" colony will shortly be exhibited in a Paris cinema. The
|> >exhibition has been arranged by the colonists themselves and protests
|> >are expected.
|> 
|> Not surprising; last spring there was a huge fair at the Paris city
|> exhibition center, with exhibitors from all over the world (great
|> event!). But the FFN (Federation Francaise du Naturisme) had a booth
|> there with videos being run, literature being passed out, poster-sized
|> pictures, etc. -- all with the kind of nudity you'd expect at a naturist
|> exhibit.
|> 
|> Two things interested me: that the constabulary weren't the least bit
|> concerned, and that the booth was no more crowded than, say, the lawn
|> tractor booth down the way. Says a lot for the differences between
|> their culture and ours. [Or is "our culture" an oxymoron? :-)]

It took (roughly) 60 years to get this far (math minor, can't ya tell? :-).
Where do you see naturism in another 60 years? If you think that's too far
ahead to predict, look ahead 15-20 years and tell me what you see...

I prefer long range visions, dreams, plans and predictions to short range ones.

-=-
Dean Collins (dean@snake.cs.uidaho.edu)
Assistant System Manager, University of Idaho, Moscow, ID
The U. of I. takes no responsibility for my opinions and neither do I.
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From: bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)
Subject: Re: handicap access at resorts?
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 06:44:56 GMT

bthoms@waikato.ac.nz writes:
>Outdoor Health Club sometimes brings along a blind friend, who enjoys being in
>the fresh air and swimming. I always thought that the main reason to go to a
>nudist club rather than using your own back yard was to share the experience
>and to see other nudist. That obviously doesn't apply as much to this guy.

Finally, I have at least heard about a blind person visiting
a clothing-optional environment.

I am still curious how much of this experience is visual.
Anyone else?


-- 
bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)
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From: leed@pro-harold.cts.com (Lee Dronick)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Libertarian beliefs (Was: Re: President)
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:05:28 GMT
Organization: The Harold Network -- An Alliance For Creative Communication

>Also, a number of years ago a woman who had been a prostitute and a
police officer ran for office in the San Francisco area.  Her campaign
posters had her in leather with a whip in her hand.  I think the claim
was that she would whip government into shape.

<

I don't remember the candidate's name but the organisation was COYOTE

Cast off Your Tired Old Ethics

Haven't heard much about them lately.
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From: middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Christian nudists
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:06:40 GMT
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1) I sure hope all you christians are nude while doing all this posting
that is straying away from nudism.

2) A fundamental mistake that many people (both christians and non) make
is the assumption that nudity causes lust (or causes sex).  Lust is
something that exists in all of us (too varying degrees of course).  In
our society nudity may enhance lust and stimulate lust but it does not
CAUSE lust.  We can prove this by the negation method.  Take someone
you are lusting after while you are both nude.  Now put bathing suits
on, did the lust go away?  No, it did not.  You still lust after that
person.

A very important point here when discussing nudity, nude beaches, etc.
Please try to separate between things that are actually a direct result
of the nudity and things that are merely better (or worse) or heightened
by the nudity.  Nudity doesn't cause sex but sex is much better (and a
bit easier) when nude.

3) Finally, although brought up christian I don't profess any belief
in god now.  However, I was taught not to judge others, that god would
judge us in heaven.  (I don't know if that is uniquely christian or
just some christians groups or what.)  Given that, why is it that so
many good christians chose to judge us and make laws against us doing
what we feel is right.  Why can't the pope and other like it just kick
back and say "hey, you do what you want, god will deal with you later".
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