HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: car377@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (charles.a.rogers)
Subject: Re: Americade-Rockies: Local Post for Colorado Denizens
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 23:18:32 GMT
Summary: Bargains
Keywords: Demo rides, Harleys, Hondas, Guzzies, goodies

In article <1992Sep3.210946.3772@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>, car377@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (I) write:
> Can't get this out by e-mail, sorry about wider distribution.
> 
> Some questions about Americade have recently come up in various
> conversations, 

Still can't get e-mail out, sorry.  

KENNEDY BRIAN <kennedy@rintintin.Colorado.EDU> emails:

] ... I was hoping you'd
] know how whether the merchandise/accesories at the show are priced
] to sell, and comparable to prices offered by mail order places, (as 
] opposed to dealerships) I need to replace my Shoei and HG leather, ...

Depends on your luck and timing.  Discount houses have had
booths in years past, and their prices were similar to their
advertised prices in the magazines, except you could carry
the stuff home with you and not worry about it getting lost
in shipment or being the wrong thing.  I pick up a lot of
literature there, and Dennis Kirk usually gives away their
catalogues for free.  There's always *something* marked down,
and you can often find things that are difficult or impossible 
to find elsewhere.  I bought my HG V-Pilot pants there year before 
last for ~half-price, because the HG vendor had recently acquired the
inventory of another shop and was dumping it.  On the last day,
local vendors may mark stuff down just so they won't have to
haul it back down to Denver or Colorado Springs.  Also, you can
see a lot of stuff you'd otherwise see only on catalogue pages
or in magazine ads, as well as items that are really neat but
never get advertised.  Some of the vendors will dicker with
you over price if you are discreet enough not to ask for a
discount in front of a big crowd.  Some manufacturers show up
with their entire product line, and you'd otherwise see
only one or two of those items in any one MC shop.  They sell
and install tires, fork springs, oil, and the like out in 
the parking lot at manufacturer's tents, and the pin-stripers
usually set up indoors and do incredible custom pin-striping
or windshield engraving while-u-wait.  The sidecar and trailer
exhibits are usually great (last year they had the Comete/FJ1200
sidecar in the parking lot: what a crowd *that* generated!).

The tremendous increase in HD interest will probably mean
a lot more HD goodies for sale, and possibly a few more
show bikes to look at.  It may also mean longer lines at
the demos.  :-(

When  you're scheduling your demo rides, be sure to leave
yourself an hour or two to spend ogling the goodies.  Also,
pack a bungee net or saddlebags just in case that really
good deal happens to be waiting for you.  Most of the vendors
will ship to your house, but if it's something you can 
carry home on the bike, you'll save shipping and the risk
of shipping loss by carrying it yourself.
From: raible@nas.nasa.gov (Eric Raible)
Subject: Re: Can you buy higher octane fuel than this?
Organization: Applied Research Office, NASA Ames Research Center
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:46:10
Reply-To: raible@nas.nasa.gov
Distribution: usa


In article <5098@gdls.UUCP> parker@gdls.UUCP (The Dougster) writes:

   They agreed that the octane rating (R+M/2) is 104. I tried
   the fuel in my '74 R90/6 before I bought my '87 R80RT and
   was really disappointed that I didn't go screaming down
   the road with flames coming out of my exhaust or increase my
   MPG calculations. There was nothing noticable, anyway.

Higher octane fuel releases (slightly) less energy than lower octane
fuel.  The only reason to use it is to eliminate detonation.

This of course discounts the occassionally very real placebo effect...

- Eric "I am not a chemist" Raible
Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Monday, 31 Aug 1992 14:33:08 EST
From: Mike Mychalkiw <ACAD8059@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: DoD Battle Hymn........ VOTING TIME EXTENDED.... inquire within:



how about 'motorcycle girl' by the cruzados


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If you don't believe me ask        Ryerson Polytechnical Institute -
HIM for yourself!                  Academic Computing Information Centre
                                   350 Victoria Street - W71A
1992 HD Softail Custom             Toronto, Ontario, Canada, M5B-2K3
                                   TELEPHONE : (416) 979-5000 x7289
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From: ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: what kind of oil needed for winter storage??
Date: 26 Aug 92 13:45:59 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

>  
> Why fill your sump with fresh oil and not get it into the rest of the motor?
> The passages, bearings, walls, etc. are covered with the old oil still.
> New oil has plenty of additives; one starting won't hurt and is recommended by
> me (having never done this).
> 
> __
> Steve Cowell, Site Tech, VLBA, Fort Davis, Tx....#0627...

You don't have to run it to do this. Crank it over with the spark plugs
removed and grounded. That helps distribute the tablespoon of 2-stroke oil
inside the cylinder too.


Ron
From: frank@marvin.contex.com (Frank Perdicaro)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BMW R100RS - Raise handlebar one inch
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:38:56 GMT
Organization: Xyvision Design Systems

In article <1992Aug30.192940.1077@msus1.msus.edu> stafford@msus1.msus.edu writes:
>
>	I need to raise the handelbar on a R100RS ('81) by
>	about an inch.  From the looks of the stock riser, this
>	would appear to be a common and simple aftermarket
>	product.
>
>	Can anyone recommend a source?  Time is of the essence.
>	Thanks.
> 
I would bet Harry Eddy, the guy begind Heli Modified here in
Wilmington would be able to do it.  He advertises in the back of most
of the bike mags, but you could just try 508 555 1212.

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	 Frank E Perdicaro, Systems Admin, etc.		Xyvision Color Systems
      Legalize guns, drugs and cash...today.		101 Edgewater Drive
   inhouse: frank@marvin, x5572				Wakefield MA
outhouse: frank@contex.com, 617-245-4100x5572		018801285
From: czw70@ccc.amdahl.com (CA Whitfield)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: X-reg in the UK?
Date: 4 Sep 92 10:44:07 GMT
Reply-To: czw70@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (CA Whitfield)
Organization: Amdahl UK

ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) asks:
>Would someone from the UK please tell me what 'J-reg', 'D-reg', etc. means?
>Does it have something to do with the tiered liscensing system?
>
It signifies the year of purchase.  Our plates currently have the
format K123 ABC.  The first letter changes on August 1st each year.
K-reg means that the vehicle was registered after 1st August 1992.

X-reg is older, the old format was ABC 123X, the last letter denoting
age.  X was around 1982.

There are some other plates for diplomats, some imports, kits and
part-bin build-ups.
CAW
--
  >>>  Charlie Whitfield               czw70@juts.ccc.amdahl.com  <<<
  >>>  Tommies on Tour    -    Sports Touring Without Compromise  <<<
  >>>                                        DoD#0526   ToT#0002  <<<
From: ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:59:19 GMT
Subject: Re: Can't find Meguirs.  Toothpaste?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

Re: Meguire's

The Champion Auto Parts store near me carries Meguire's.

I don't know why. But you Meguire-less folks could try calling some
auto parts places.


Ron
From: R.Collins@newcastle.ac.uk (R. Collins)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Speaking of triple A....
Date: 2 Sep 92 10:38:50 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcyccles
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU.


In article <1992Sep1.192431.13149@worldbank.org>, aki@atlas.worldbank.org (aki) writes:
>
>Just curious...if you are a AAA member and your
>bike dies, will they provide tow service? I mean
>will they bring a tow truck out (the flatbed type)
>and pick up your bike?  How about dead batteries?
>Will they come and jump start your bike for you?
>Strange question but I'm wondering if anyone
>has had any experience with this since I've never
>heard of a similiar service for motorcycles....
>and heaven forbid, will they come out if you
>lock your keys in your bike? ;-) ....
>
>
>
>*******************************************
>-Aki                   *
>DoD #0628         * A tank of gas, a pair of
>                           * gloves, a helmet on my
>                           * head and a motor between
>----------------------- * my legs..folks, it don't git
>Disclaimer:  Comments     * no bettern' this...
>my own, my employer        *
>doesn't understand them... *
>********************************************

In the Good 'Ol U of K the AA (the original and best?...NOT) will provide
this service.  At the end of a short touring holiday with my SO I lost
my keys in the long grass (make of this what you will).  Coming from
Newcastle it had steering lock, shackle lock and heavy duty chain on! It
took their heavy weight truck to transport home (wouldn't fit on a bike trailer 
with the steering locked).  I was veeery glad I'd decided against chaining it to
a tree!

___
Raybo		DoD#1058		XBR500		AA#635601815...

Take the AA membership card,
they go all the way.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rroberts@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ross Allan Roberts)
Subject: MY Winner for DoD Ballard (wuz Winner of the Official...)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:05:37 GMT

My personal favorite, and the song I'll claim for MY DoD Ballard:

"High Speed Dirt" by Megadeth.

Ok, Ok, before all the 'old farts' (tm) start that intense shuddering in their
seats followed by cries of 'The little upstart bastard young'un!', I'll have
you know.... that I LIKE IT.

Arlo Guthrie? Cripes. Next thing you know, someone'll suggest something by
Wayne Newton, Sinatra, Jan and Dean, or (God(tm) Forbid) Elvis.

oh, and "High Speed Dirt" is a phrase used in skydiving when your chute doesn't
open, bit it's also my personal motto (se .sig)

 #############################################################################
#Ross Roberts (rroberts@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)|'85 IT200, '81 MX100       #
#DoD#0340, still patiently awaiting the 6ooF2...  |'88 YFM350 Warrior         #
 #---------------------4-stroke good, 2-stroke gooder!---------------------- #
 #       Today's Lyric:'I don't believe in love... it's never worth          #
 #                   the pain that you feel' -- Queensryche                  #
 #############################################################################
From: randy@ninja.megatek.uucp (Randy Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Ducati
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:27:14 GMT
Reply-To: megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California

In article <1992Aug27.084959.20055@hsr.no> paal-sb@hsr.no (Paal Steinar Berg) writes:
|Mail me with your views

  Well, the view out my office window is so awesome, I thought I'd post it.
You see, there is this awesome view of a very scenic valley, and this road,
and these beautiful babes that like to sunbathe outside my window - when
they quit sunbathing, I get sometimes read News, and if neither one of those
options are present, I sometimes do some work...

  Life's rough...

Randy Davis                             UUCP: randy@megatek.com
("mean and nasty") ZX-11 #00072 Pilot         megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: More reserve switch questions
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:25:38 GMT

bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.233643.28004@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>>cantrell@seqp4.sequoia.com (Paul Cantrell) writes:

>>>why don't they all just have accurate fuel gauges?

>>Have you _ever_ seen an accurate fuel gauge on a bike?

>I think I gotta argue with you on this one.  Define "accurate."

F = Full, E = Empty (or possibly Reserve), with a linear relationship
between those two points. I get the impression that most gauges simply
use a linear resistance, and therefore only indicate fuel _level_
because they don't account for the shape of the tank.

>As far as gas gauge goes, being consistent is adiquate.  On my FJ
>When the gauge says exactly half full, I can put in exactly 3 gallons.
>For a tank rated at 5.8 gallons, that's not bad.  When I hit "empty"
>I can put in exactly 5 gal.  The manual says the reserve is 0.8 gallons.
>I consider this accurate.  Better than accurate is the consistency 
>of the gauge.  The numbers just don't change.

Yea, but what does it read on a full tank?  F + 1/8th to F + 1/4, right?
I have to admit that I've no idea what my FJ takes when the gauge reads
1/2, I'm usually down around reserve before I fill up. But you're right,
it is consistant. 
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: More reserve switch questions
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: 4 Sep 1992 02:51:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62003.student.cwru.edu

In article <Bu17qK.2CM@news.udel.edu>, andersen@me.udel.edu (Stephen
Andersen) wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Sep3.233643.28004@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
> >
> >Have you _ever_ seen an accurate fuel gauge on a bike?
> 
> Yes, I see one on my Ducati several times each day...
> 
Ahhh, but what are the tolerences? :-)

> 
> -- 
>  Steve Andersen  DoD #0239                               andersen@me.udel.edu

| Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834      | DoD #207  AMA
#573534|
| Case Western Reserve U. Computer E. and Sci. dept. | KotNML  /  KotB     
|
| "If I was worried about who saw me, I'd never get  | '81 CB750C          
|
| nekkid at all." -Ed Green, DoD #0111               | '88 Bianchi Limited 
|
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU (Michael Johnson)
Subject: Re: What's a "stroker"
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:03:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.152116.25826@informix.com> dboyd@informix.com writes:
>
>OK, no funny business here, I really want to know. I have this t-shirt on today  
>that says "Have you hugged your stroker today?" (from S&S cycles) and people  
>are asking me what a stroker is and I'm not quite sure.
>
>Any bike with performance parts?

No.

>A harley that's been bored out?

No, but close.

It refers to a bike that has had the crankshaft changed to increase the
stroke of the engine.



--
      Michael L. Johnson
      mlj8e@virginia.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rsteele@adam.ll.mit.edu (Rob Steele)
Subject: Re: Games we play with caged children...
Reply-To: rob@ll.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 16:23:09 GMT

In article <5199@gdls.UUCP> parker@gdls.UUCP (The Dougster) writes:
> Kids in cages get such a thrill out of waving at 'cyclists.

Back when there were hippies I was behind a station wagon full of kids  
who thought it was cool to make peace signs at me.  They were all  
holding up two fingers so I gestured back with three.  They all fell  
out laughing and then held up four fingers.  I gave them a five  
fingered wave and passed on by.  Great fun.
-------------------------------------------------------
Rob Steele                            rob@ll.mit.edu
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
244 Wood St.                   Your basic human being
Lexington, MA  02173            is not such a hot item.
617/981-2575                      --Ben Stein's sister
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Subject: Re: NY Rte 17 sucks
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 01:05:38 GMT

In article <Btwzoq.LAD@apollo.hp.com> heff@ki.ch.apollo.hp.com (God of Thunder) writes:
>
>I rode Route 17 across NY in July, and it sucked. The road is concrete
>blocks with major bumps between blocks - my spine was screwed for days.
>
>Anybody have a better way to get from Boston to Binghamton in under 7 hours,
>and on a fun road at the same time?

No.  And if I did, I would use it.

I would take the Pike (I-90) to Albany, then I-88 to Binghamton.  Boring
Interstate all the way except for the ugly part in Albany, but at least
the road surface is generally good.  I think it should take about 6
hours that way.

Maybe you could take Rt. 23 part of the way (cutting out the loop
through Albany).  If they have fixed the Rip Van Winkle bridge yet, it
should be a lot of fun :-) to cross on a bike.  But I suspect that
might put you over 7 hours, depending on the time of day (and hence
traffic in towns).

>"No, I don't know that atheists should be consedered as citizens, 
>nor should they be considered patriots.  This is one nation under God."
>                                         - George Bush
><choke> <cough> Say WHAT?!?!?!?

When Bush did his patriotic duty back in WWII, there was no "under
God" in the Pledge of Allegiance.  (One notices this sometimes in
wartime films, in which the Pledge tended to show up more frequently
than nowadays.)  "Under God" was inserted sometime in the 50s.  I
think it had something to do with Senator McCarthy or his pals.  (I
wonder how Bush views McCarthy's patriotism.)

-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
-- '80 BMW R65   BMWMOA #36829   DoD #0969   NRA #CDF6091M
From: v058l789@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Ethan A Bowerman)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: dunlop 591 vs. metzler 99a perfect ???
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:04:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <92244.002520U10119@uicvm.uic.edu>, U10119@uicvm.uic.edu (Ed Dowtort) writes...
>since i arrived back from the GPNWDG with a nice smooth (bold) rear
>tire, i'm shopping around for a new one....
> 
>what i had on the back is the 99a perfect from metzler.  it was already
>on the bike when i bought it (used).  it lasted me for ~7000 miles before
>it went bold'ish...  (since i was still in montana when i noticed that is
>was kind of bold in the center, and local shops did not have a tire for
>me, i put another 1000 miles on it on my way back to chicago.)  i
>don't know how many miles the tire had when i bought the bike.
> 
>i would get another 99a, if it wasn't for the fact that i've just put on
>a new dunlop 591 on the front and therefore am considering a match on the
>rear...
> 
>how do the two compare?  what i'm looking for is mainly long life, wet
>traction, and basically traction.   here in chicago i ride the bike in
>the city and occasionally do 100+ mile weekends... not too many twisty
>roads around here.  but i would probably like to do another long distance
>trip next summer (maybe gpnwdg again?  which is 5000 for me), and would
>like the tire to last me for the year of city, weekends, and the trip.
>that's 8000-10000 miles worth...  i'm pretty sure the 99A would make it,
>but what about the 591??
> 
>the bike is an '82 seca 400.  does anyone familiar with the bike (or family
>of bikes?  the maxim was a sister bike) know if putting a 110/90-18 can
>cause a problem?  stock is 100/90-18.  we're talking the rear wheel here.
>the front i've already upped from 90/90 18 to 100/90 18 with no problem.
>(well, except for this "hazardous condition" stamp on the bill from the
>shop that put the tire on, reffering to the size difference. ;)
> 
>thanks in advance,
> 
>ed.
> 
>-----------------------
>Edward Dowtort                                           '82 xs400rj (seca twin
>u10119@uicvm.uic.edu                                                  DoD #1690
>                         university of illinois at chicago


	Well, I only got 4000 miles from a Dunlop K591SP (street compound) on
a Nighthawk 650.   Considerably more power than the '82 Seca 400 put out, and
I used it too.  You could probably squeeze 5.5-6K out of it if your nice
to it.
	Might want to try a K491- it is a sport touring tire- slightly
less grip but a little more expensive and a LOT longer wearing (X2???)


					Ethan
From: harmons@mithril.wv.tek.com (Harmon Sommer)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: More centrifugal
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:20:30 GMT
Reply-To: harmons@mithril.wv.tek.com (Harmon Sommer)
Distribution: usa


>>The primary forces acting on a bike in a turn (excluding aerodynamic forces)
>>are gravity (down), road force (up) and centripetal (inward).

>And just where (other than gravity or the road) does the centripetal force
>come from?

Centripetal force comes from tire reaction on the road. Willoughby and Foale
in "Motorcycle Chassis Design" attribute this to deformation of the tire
contact patch and to rolling-cone camber thrust. Zellner and Weir in
"Development of Handling Test for Motorcycles" (SAE 780313) plot the ratio
of yawrate/steerangle as a function of forward velocity. A positive 
steerangle is required to generate tire slip angles to hold the bike in
a curved path.

A different Z and W paper uses slip angles as one term in expressions for 
stability. They comment that these generate dominant forces.


>>No force called centrifugal is acting on the bike; it is a force in reaction
>>to the centripetal force generated by the tires on the road surface. 

>Ah yes, another victim of high school physics.  Welcome to the club!

Both Sears, Zemanski, et al (Modern University Physics) and J.L. Meriam
(Mechanics-Dynamics) state that no centrifugal force acts on the body in
a curved path. 

However, Puhn (How to Make Your Car Handle), Willoughby and Foale (chassis
design), and the performance manual published by GM and sold through 
their parts departments, all identify an outward force on the vehicle
called "centrifugal". Pity.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Winner of the Official(tm) (bs) DoD Ba
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:16:03 GMT

bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
>In article <17g3rmINN5r@sixgun.East.Sun.COM>, egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:

>>[about Arlo Guthrie's Motorcycle/The Significance of the Pickle song]

>hey ed, how about digitizing it on one of them there sun boxes you got
>and ftp'ing it to bruce tanner?

Umm, I guess you haven't heard it. It's about 6-8 minutes long, so even
at a low sample rate, you're looking at a HUGE file (20-70 megabytes).

Go on, pry that wallet open, and head down to the local discount/used
music store and pick up "Arlo Guthrie's Greatest Hits" from the bargain
rack. For $10 you get both the "Motorcycle Song" and "Alice's Restaurant".
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200