HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: "Alek Grabinski, SC1-32, 765-2151 - KOKUSAI RELATIONS" <AGRABINSKI@sc9.intel.com>
Subject: Mike's Lyrics / Colo Show Review
Reply-To: AGRABINSKI@sc9.intel.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 17:32:29 GMT

Hey-Ho:

As we've all proven in the past, there is no one "right way" or "right 
set of lyrics".  Let's drop Mike's Song with these two options, which 
are clear as day on some shows and clear as mud on others:

	"We don't want no nice guys"

	"Me no are no nice guy"


As for Weekapaug, I hear 

	"Trying to make a woman that you move
	 And I'm sharing in the Weekapaug Groove"


Apart from "Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul", "Run [ad 
infinitum]", and "Run like an antelope, out of control", the lyrics to 
Antelope come from the dark dank corners of Trey's mind and should be 
phoneticized and phantasized until you hear what you want to hear.

Same with YEM.

Now, as for the review of the Colorado show with comparisons to the 
Dead:

In my experience, the Dead rarely hit the peaks as well as does Phish.  
Maybe I'm a major-chord kind of guy, but I have been disappointed 
countless times by Jerry's arpeggiating (is that a word?) and missing 
what I consider to be a critical note in a jam.  Then he noodles off, 
the band tries to follow and they end up playing "Space".  Phish doesn't 
do that - as was pointed out in the last PD, the jams are usually 
concise and satisfying.  I've heard tapes from '88 where they can go off 
the map for 15 minutes and return you back home in startling fashion; 
when the Dead bring you back you see it coming from miles away.  But I 
agree with the previous message, this is not a slam on the Dead - I just 
got tired of being disappointed with Jerry's jams; when I go to a Phish 
show I know I won't be. (only 59 hours to go!)

Anyone noticed that describing music is like describing taste or smell 
with words?

Alek

"It's so stupendous, living in this tube"

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: anderso2@husc.harvard.edu
Subject: Greeting Phriends at Warfield
Reply-To: anderso2@husc.harvard.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 03:32:28 GMT


If anyone runs into my phriends John Abbe or Darcy Gibbons at the Warfield
show this weekend, please say hello to them for me!

Carl
From: v093p7m2@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (TONY BROWN)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: max pts
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:12:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


Hi all,
   Has anyone tried to redeem Max pts for A Picture of Nectar cd?  I sent
in my order awhile ago and was just wondering if I can expect to receive it
or my alternate Live Dead (which I know they have).

Tony
><> ><> ><>
From: s3583045@titan.ucc.umass.edu (yeP!)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Last time.... (was: You Enjoy Myself, Again, I'm sure)
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:49:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: nic.1992Apr17.174916.16522
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

In article <Ydvjmqy00iUyQ3mIN6@andrew.cmu.edu> as53+@andrew.cmu.edu (Adam Christopher Swift) writes:
>
>I know This has been asked before, and I'm sure I've heard it before,
>but (damn that short term memory!) I was curious if some kind soul could
>tell me again.
>
>    What are the (real) words in that part where they (seem to) say:
>        "What your feet say drive me to Firenze"?

Seems like I'll post this daily :-)

"Wash-a-Uffitze and drive me to Firenze"
          ^                         ^
          |                         |
     A square in Florence, Italy    |
                                    |
                                 Florence, Italy.

Is the taxi story, where this all came from, in the stories file?

>
>Any help appreciated.
>
>- adam

-jg
From: shell@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Shelly Culbertson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: mike's groove
Date: 12 Apr 92 18:44:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.sa0eaINNrfj
Organization: Dept. of Statistics, U. C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: gandalf.berkeley.edu

Hmmm...well, it seems as though at least one potential interview question
has surfaced! ;-)

Speaking of which, if anyone has any other ideas for questions (particularly
for Fish or Trey), if you mail them to me by Thursday I'll do my best to
find out the answers.  Thanks!

take care,
Shelly
From: HATCH@ups.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: RE: Phish Digest #308
Date: 11 Apr 92 23:02:04 GMT
Reply-To: HATCH@ups.edu
Organization: The Internet

talk melikian@wayback.ups.edu
From: Mark Hays <hays@math.arizona.edu>
Subject: hehe
Reply-To: hays@math.arizona.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1992 17:30:32 GMT

Applause to Pandion. It's good to see something other than
the repetitious, mindless dribble which populates the .net
day in and day out. I am a hearty supporter of intelligence and wit.
Pandion exhibits both, plus a good measure of humility.
great. A very clever April fool's gag....
From: 89197@lawrence.edu (ANDY AGER, FRISBEE BROTHER/APHISHIONADO)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: tapes and net nastiness
Date: 7 Apr 92 03:47:02 GMT
Reply-To: 89197@lawrence.edu
Organization: The Internet

Before I get to the bad news, just a small note about recording levels on
tapes.  On most double decks under the $600-700range do not have the 
ability to set the levels while dubbing.  However, I suppose that using
two single decks would work fine, even though I don't have the cash to 
spring for two decks.
	In other news, I received today one of those oh-so-annoying chain 
letters...the catch was, it was sent to me from a member of the Phishnet!
Now, I suppose that some may consider these damn things fun and cool, but
they annoy the piss out of most of the people I have ever talked to.  What
was disconcerting was that a netter sent another netter a chain letter, I
mean, what's up here?  Common courtesy is to not send these things to 
either phriends or phellow phishers, so I'm going to do a small public flame
here:  AFOSTER:  get a life!!! Don't send this crap to other netters!
Sorry for the bandwidth, but I was more than slightly annoyed....
However, I'm gonna go listen to the 90-91 NYE show and feel happier soon!

			Getting psyched for Madison, Milwaukee, etc...:):):):)

				Phish on!

			---Andy   *:)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: twent@wam.umd.edu (Anthony J. Went)
Subject: Re: Midwest shows
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 00:09:43 GMT

Brian Feller writes:

> 
>  Howdy Pholks!
>     Does anyone mind if I post the setlist for
>the two Michigan shows, in order to save bandwidth?

Save bandwidth?  I always was under the impression that one of the primary
functions of the PhishNet was to post setlists.  And I haven't seen any at all
lately, which has gotten me down.  Please DO post the setlists, this goes for
EVERYONE...

	-tony

-- 
Tony Went (twent@wam.umd.edu)                           University of Merryland
     "I'd like to hear my options so I can weigh them, what do you say?
      Five pounds, six pounds, seven pounds..."
					- Phish
From: anderso2@husc.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: thoughts on Mike's Groove lyrics
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:09:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvaarpa.1992Apr10.190920.1917
Reply-To: anderso2@husc.harvard.edu
Organization: The Internet


	Someone posted about Mike's Groove lyrics.  I have a 5/21/89
tape on which, just before launching into Mike's Song -> I am Hydrogen ->
Weekapaug Groove (and a very nice one) Trey announces that they are about
to play a song called "She No Are No Nice Gal".
	That, at least, is a phonetic rendition of what he says.  I suppose
either "No" could be a "know", or it could be pseudo-Japanese (Shinoarno
Nice Gal).  But this is pretty much the chorus to Mike's Song, as I
have it figured.

Carl
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: William Press <press@cns.caltech.edu>
Subject: What Dolby and DBX actually do
Reply-To: press@cns.caltech.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 00:35:33 GMT

There has been alot of talk about Dolby recently, and some mention of
DBX; however, almost no bandwidth has been devoted to explaining how
they actually work. This is an essential piece of information when
deciding whether one should even *use* one of these noise reduction
systems at all.  Following, therefore, is a quick synopsis of what
Dolby and DBX actually do, and why one should be VERY careful if
actually using either of them.

The hiss of tape noise resides in the higher frequencies: when you
record with Dolby, the music's high frequencies are boosted compared
to the rest of the music -- the hiss caused by the tape head is
unchanged.  Thus when you play back *with* Dolby, the high end is
reduced to its normal volume, and the hiss becomes considerably less
audible. This is why playing back a Dolby tape on a non-Dolby system
will give that boosted treble sound. And by the way, the only
difference between Dolby B and Dolby C is the amount by which they
boost and reduce the higher frequencies: Dolby B uses about a 10 db
difference, and Dolby C uses about 20 db.

While in theory this is all well and good, and should yield tasty
sounding dubs, a couple of problems arise in practice. First of all,
different tape deck manufacturers will use different implementations
and hardware in trying to effect the same results. Thus, if you
"encode" your tape with Dolby when you record a show for a friend,
there is no guarentee that *his* or *her* tape deck will accurately
"decode" the music. Your tape decks' Dolbys may have different
roll-offs and frequency responses, resulting in a muffled, tinny, or
simply *strange* sounding tape. Secondly, the decoding effected by a
particular machine does not always accurately match its encoding
scheme. My personal experience is that Dolby tapes often play back
somewhat muffled, with some loss in the higher frequencies, even on
the original tape deck. I do not know why this seems to be such a
common problem, but these two caveats have been enough to scare me
away from Dolby for fear of simply *ruining* my tapes.

DBX, on the other hand, is a different story altogether. This scheme
takes all of the music, compresses the information, and completely
stores it at bandwidths *different* than the hiss. Thus, when you play
it back, the system simply cuts out all of the hiss frequencies (where
*no* music is stored), and decodes the original signal. This system is
amazingly effective, yielding a signal to noise of something like 98
db. In fact, DBX rivaled digital signal-to-noise, and was for some
reason phased out when the CD was released. There is, however, one
serious problem. You cannot play back a DBX tape without a DBX tape
deck. Period. If you do, the music will sound pretty fucked up...
particularly tinny. Thus if you are making DBX tapes for someone, make
sure they have a DBX tape deck, which is pretty uncommon these days.
If you both have DBX, though, you'll probably be very happy with the
results.

	Slackfully yours,
	Bill
From: NEIL.BERKMAN@mail.admin.wisc.edu
Subject: extra Chicago tix
Reply-To: NEIL.BERKMAN@mail.admin.wisc.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 17:20:55 GMT

to: phish@fuggles.acc.virginia.edu

I have 2 extra tickets to Chicago.  Let me know if you're interested
(I'll give you much faster service than Ticketmaster).

Neil
neil.berkman@mail.admin.wisc.edu





                                                                               



Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: X53N000 <X53N@slumus.bitnet>
Subject: Cheap tapes
Reply-To: X53N@slumus.bitnet
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:30:41 GMT

I remember people posting info on cheap blanks-could someone please
remind me where I could get Maxell XLIIs's cheap (preferably in
quantities of 10).

                           Thanks in advance-

                                       mike

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: William Press <press@cns.caltech.edu>
Subject: Panic
Reply-To: press@cns.caltech.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 18:36:33 GMT


Howdy ho there, all

	Somebody recently posted that they've got some very tasty Panic tapes,
but I forget who. If you've got some, please drop me a line... I've been
looking high (and low) for some shows, and've got schools o' Phish tapes in
return.

		Slackfully yours,
		Bill
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: SCF8747@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
Subject: happy LGB week
Reply-To: SCF8747@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 00:51:57 GMT

wasting bandwidth to wish all you phishfuckers out there a very
happy Lebian Gay Bisexual pride week....

be proud of your sexual identity...at least for this week..:)

Zonk.
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: X53N000 <X53N@slumus.bitnet>
Subject: (none)
Reply-To: X53N@slumus.bitnet
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1992 10:30:43 GMT

I may not be the president,
I may not be the pope.
But as long as I have Gritty Kitty,
I shall never mope.





                      -Stimpy

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: BBA07@uno.cc.geneseo.edu
Subject: THE summer thing- the Shockra Connection
Reply-To: BBA07@uno.cc.geneseo.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:22:56 GMT

	Just to add to the excitement, and confusion, around
what now includes the Blues dudes, phish, widespread, spinners,
and ARU maybe, here is my angle that I haven't heard
said.  While backstage with Shockra at the Horizontal Boogie Bar
(the HBB was formerly the Warehouse, Phish played there last
Fall and a change of ownership has completely revamped the
place so there is much more room now, in fact during that
Phish gig the place was so excited that the floor nearly collapsed
and the new owner that night said WE can't bring them back unless
we fix the floor, They are so great though that I'll do it...
ButAnyway, back to the point... SShockra's (see them!) lead singer
and drummer were telling me that they had been talking
with Phish and Traveler about the three of them (and perhaps other
bands) were trying to plan an all day gig for this Summer.
They said Phish was way into it, Could this be part of the
same happening, Through Shockra on that list of hot bands
and this show could be becoming the pinnacle of all that our
society is become... the new age.. THe true birth of the
new REVOLUTION... all be there, period.
	"Well I'm alright..."
	"Someday he knew it would set him free..."
                                       Sharing the groovE
                                        in Geneseo, Michael G.
       
gruelling death
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "Rich Fromm - 'Whatever you do, take care of your shoes.'  03-Apr-1992 1002" <fromm@tecrus.enet.dec.com>
Subject: RE:  may shows and stuph
Reply-To: fromm@tecrus.enet.dec.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1992 16:06:34 GMT

-ryan <DLD116@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

|            for those interested...tix for the may 16th show at the
|orpheum theater in beautiful boston are on sale at ticketbastard...
|but you won't like the price...$22.50 from TB's!

YUCK!!!  that's outrageous!!!

are there other local places to get them?  where's the b.o.?  is the show 
general admission?  after seeing that price and hearing matt's disparaging 
comments about the orpheum, i might just pass this one up...

- rich

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: rstern@col.hp.com (Richard Stern)
Subject: Re: Rico Was a Nice Guy ???
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:33:45 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

twent@wam.umd.edu (Anthony J. Went) writes:
> Rod Thurber writes:
> 
> >   called "I am a Hydrogen", I Think.  What is the chorus to this song, Steve
> >   thinks it is "Rico was a Nice Guy", while my opinion was "Freak out on the
> >   Night Skies"
> 
> I always thought it was "Me no I'm no nice guy..."

First of all, this is in Mike's Song, not IAH.  IAH is the very mellow
musical interlude between Mike's Song and Weekaparg Groove.

I always hear it as "Me no I'm no nice guy" also !!

What do they say during Weekaparg??  I hear that as "trying to make a 
woman that could move, and I'm sharing in the weekaparg groove". ???

Richard Stern
rstern@col.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: HATCH@ups.edu
Subject: misc.stuff
Reply-To: HATCH@ups.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 22:30:16 GMT

Saw Wipe and Spread Panic last night in Seattle-same venue as phish last fall!
They were pretty loud and rockin' and a bit more mainstreamish than their 
older style. They jammed pretty well but didn't get into the audience too much.
Except for the bassist(6 strings)who would stare at people and make faces. He 
was a neat fellow. The guy in the back that you couldn't see was what made the 
show. He played incredible congas and wood blocks and all this neat stuff even
a sweet bird whistle. I wish phish would find a conga drummer-it adds so much!
Anyway the rest of the band was like Mike-sort of in their own world. And after
wards I spoke with the bassist about the summer get together w/ BT,ARU,Phish 
and Spin docs. He said stuff was definitely going to go down and that we will
here about it for sure. He also mentioned that it might begin in late July and
th eonly states he mentioned off the top of his head were Vt.,NY.,and Ga. and 
that the shows would be like Amy's Farm-campin' out-yahooooo!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Also, I've noticed that many reviews bring up Trey's style as a  bit like
Kenney Burrell or Joe Pass. Very true when you hear Trey on tunes like Magilla
A train, Caravan(?), Donna Lee. As you can see these are the jazz tunes. If
you are at all into jazz other than phish-check these veterans out. Burrell
has an orchestra-find his quartet stuff-mellow study or sleep music.
Joe Pass is much the same. I really think you'll like it and these old albums
are cheap as can be at an old record store. Most of their stuff is on all
formats too!! Hope you'll find an interest and don't count on your synapses
burnin' with this music, it's not like phish!!00
                                              <
                                              \/ scooter hatch!!
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: mep43562@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael E Powers)
Subject: Small(Literally) Phish Sighting
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:35:49 GMT

As I was sitting in the discussion section of a mechanics class today, the 
topic became less than interesting, and my mind began to wander.  I began to
read the graffiti on the desk that I was sitting in.  There, among all the
usual major-trashing and Greek letters, there was a tiny statement that caught
my eye.  It read, "I'm going Phishing!!!!!!!!!".  Then, a little further down
the desk there was, "Whatever you do, take care of your shoes!"  It sure
brightened up my day.
Like you care,

-- 
Mike Powers
University of Illinois
mep43562@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
				...you know it's gonna get stranger...
From: btdy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: so, when buying a tape player..
Date: 14 Apr 92 11:56:33 EDT
Distribution: usa,rec
Organization: Cornell University

In article <Apr.14.01.10.31.1992.25708@remus.rutgers.edu>,
jjwright@remus.rutgers.edu (      Jay) writes: 
> 
> so, if one was going to purchase a tape player to be used for
> both tape-to-tape copying and CD-to-tape copying, what is the
> best purchase he can make?  brand and style?

Wow, you've opened a really BIG can-o-worms!  There were about 180,000,000
tape decks purchased last year (worldwide).  You're asking for the
best brand and style?  Brand is easier than style.  A few have good 
reputations for good sound.  I'd look at Nak, Luxman, and the NAD 6300 for
starters (this is the close-to-a-thousand-dollar-range and above).  I
assume price isn't an issue.  Actually, I think that the NAD 6300 is a good
buy at < $700 if you can find one.

Check out the "EQUIP. REVIEW" string in rec.audio for people's opinions
on brands.  Style is up to you:  Sonys have tons of buttons, others not so
many.  Ask Lee Silverman and Rich Fromm (hi guys) what they think of their Sony
TCK-677ES's.  You can probably get one for less than $400, they did
quite recently and as far as I know they like 'em (right? :-).

> 
> ie.. does someone who is very clever and bright want to 
> summarize all that has been discussed.

You're hired.  Congradulations! :-)  Opinions are like assholes--everybody's
got one.

"Getting it clearly through alternate paths..."

- Jeff

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Kent Stewart <kstewart@td2cad.intel.com>
Subject: Mike's Song
Reply-To: kstewart@td2cad.intel.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:47:08 GMT


Wow, I never thought this one was in doubt!

"We don't want no nice guys"


is what I've always heard, plain as day.


--bongo in the night skies

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish,rec.music.gdead
From: SHW9126@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu (The Oberlin School for the Socially Dysfunctional)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Attention Midwesterners
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:54:26 GMT
Reply-To: SHW9126@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
Organization: The Internet

Howdy Phish-types of the Midwest Variety!

I have been fortunate enough to secure 5 tkts ( more if needed) to the May 7 
CLeveland Agora show at the box office price of $10  dollars.  That means I  
won't have to go to Ticketbastards.  It also means that anyone else needing a 
ticket won't have to either, 'cause he/she can get one from me.  Just e-mail 
me.  Goodbye.
                       Dr. Henry WU
                      Shw9126@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
From: as53+@andrew.cmu.edu (Adam Christopher Swift)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: You Enjoy Myself, Again, I'm sure
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:28:38 GMT
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


I know This has been asked before, and I'm sure I've heard it before,
but (damn that short term memory!) I was curious if some kind soul could
tell me again.

    What are the (real) words in that part where they (seem to) say:
        "What your feet say drive me to Firenze"?

Any help appreciated.

- adam


     Adam C Swift             "To defy the laws of tradition
  as53@andrew.cmu.edu	            is a crusade only of the brave." - PRIMUS
Carnegie Mellon University    "Life is farting around." - Kurt Vonnegut
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: walsh@xn.ll.mit.edu
Subject: Who heard Phish on Mountain Stage ???
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 18:37:07 GMT

The Mountain Stage show that was to include Phish and was to be heard in
Boston on Sunday Apr. 5th was not heard at the regular time (7:00pm 90.9
WBUR) because a debate was broadcast.  I presume MS wasn't broadcast at all?

So, I'm curious, what was the setlist and did the comentators have any
interesting comments?

-mike-
walsh@ll.mit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: s3583045@titan.ucc.umass.edu (yeP!)
Subject: Re: Llama lyrics
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 21:57:52 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.173627.20785@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> DDSCHWAR@cc.owu.edu writes:
>Now that we've all beaten the lyrics to Mike's Groove to death, how about
>trying to decipher another tune?  Doe anyone know what the chorus is in Llama
>after the line, "...and I knew my time had come to enter the delta."?
>Tyr that one out.                                      DAVE S.


"Leave it on press, depress, depress!  Llama!  Taboot Taboot!"


Trey told me this last summer.... it's right...  He told me whole Llama
story.... Blew my mind!!  And to think, at first I thought it said:
"Livin out west is the best place".... Bahaa.. silly me


-jg
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: brj@terminator.cc.umich.edu (Brian Jarvinen)
Subject: rec.music.phish FAQ?
Organization: U of Michigan, ITD Research Systems
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 23:21:36 GMT

Is there an FAQ for this newsgroup? I've got some questions...
 
What is the Phish hotline #?
 
Do Phish shows (such as the May Midwest dates) sell out fast?
 
Is there going to be a show in East Lansing, MI?
 
Does anyone have a list of Midwest tour dates online?
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish