HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: styri@hal.nta.no (YuNoHoo)
Subject: Re: Faces of death
Reply-To: styri@nta.no
Organization: Bohemians and Globetrotters, Unlimited
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 14:16:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.014242.29638@PA.dec.com>, David P. Mikkelson (snopes) writes:
>
> Sorry, bud, but I didn't say FOD was "less realistic" than movies, but less
> convincing.  Movie deaths are not terribly convincing when it comes to murder,
> and FOD is even less so.

Well, I fully agree with snopes on this one. However, if you already believe
in the existence of snuff films you may think that movie deaths are really
convincing. (I was in the army with a guy who believed a lot of things in
the movies. Boy, was he surprised when he was put in prison for repeating
some of these things in real life...)

Best killing I've seen in any movie was the dogs in "A Fish Called Wanda".

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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: planes in rivers (was NEW UL!)
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:44:45 GMT

In article <BsqyrK.7rH@acsu.buffalo.edu> dmarcher@acsu.buffalo.edu (Dave Archer) writes:
>In article <25253@dog.ee.lbl.gov> jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov writes:

>Does anybody have anything about some UL about 7's and the
>designations of various bombers & Boeing aircraft?  (Ex:
>B-17, B-25 (5+2), B-52, B-29 (9-2), etc, and of course 707, 727,
>737, 747, 757, 767, 777, 787, etc.)
>
>Other than the obvious lucky number 7, I think there's
>supposed to be something else to it, but don't remember.

As far as I know, Boeing has had no control whatsoever in guiding the
numerical designations of their military aircraft.  They get whatever
number happens to be next after the last model like the B-2 Stealth came
after the Rockwell B-1, etc.  Besides, I can think of one off the top of
my head taht dosen't fit your schema: the B-47, the Air Force's first
production jet bomber.  While it _contains_ a seven, you can't get 7
from any mathematical manipulation of 7 and 4.   

As for the 7X7 designation of their commercial airliners, I've never
heard an explanation for that.

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From: WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: I made a snuff film.
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:31:12 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

But the tobacco kept falling out of my cheek.

Brian Waugh                       |    "What's for dinner?"
WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU    |        Walt Garrison
Xref: sparky alt.folklore.urban:21739 comp.dcom.modems:12258
From: tad@ssc.wa.com (Tad Cook)
Subject: Re: Modem tax back
Organization: very little
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 17:39:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.025341.492@seanews.akita.com> billmcc@seanews.akita.com (Bill McCormick) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.211954.19466@ssc.wa.com> tad@ssc.wa.com (Tad Cook) writes:
>>Oh, great!  Then the rural users pay thousands of dollars per
>>month for the "true cost" of providing service into low desity
>>areas, and the telcos just fight over providing the lowest cost
>>service to big customers in the city.  Some telephone service!
>
>Yep.  They should.  There are costs to living in rural areas, like
>extended lines for power and phone.
>
>There are costs to living in urban areas, like parking and rent.
>
>If it costs more to provide service to someone, they should pay more.
>Especially now when there are reasonable alternatives like cellular
>service.
>

What is being proposed here is a complete change in the philosophy
behind telephone "service" in this country.  The concept of
universal service was promoted so that most of the country could
be served.  The idea is that the more people who are on the
network, the more useful the network is.

What the deconstructivists are asking for here would probably
mean that telephone service would be provided very cheaply
to large corporations that are in large urban areas and
can buy the service in bulk, and that anywhere else telephone
service would be a luxury, unaffordable for the masses.

And this is the justification for spreading the network
chain letter about a "modem tax" ???



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From: seanna@bnr.ca (Seanna Watson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: apples to teachers - idea why
Date: 19 Aug 92 00:50:56 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada

Kids give apples to teachers because they start school in the fall
when apples are abundant.  They give flowers to teachers in the 
spring.

-- 
Seanna Watson   Bell-Northern Research, 
(seanna@bnr.ca) Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: jdahl@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jared Dahl)
Subject: Just One Calorie...?
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:31:21 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Corporation

  This is a FOAF story that was related to me about 
a year ago, concerning false advertising charges that
were supposedly filed against major soft drink 
companies.

  The teller informed me that certain Diet colas claims
about having "just one calorie" were false, and that 
they had been sued about this.  It seems that the 
court fined them some amount ( a pittance ) and has kept
fining them as they keep running the add.  The company,
however, has found it more profitable to keep paying the
fines and not admitting the true calorie content of
the diet cola.

   This instantly reeked of UL - I checked a can - it said
"one calorie per 5 oz. serving."  Is this false advertising,
or does it fall into the range of "first in it's class" 
claims by auto manufacturers?

   Does anyone know anything more about this?

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From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Eskimo words for snow
Date: 18 Aug 1992 16:45:58 GMT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

barth@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (barth.richards) writes:

  +: It's sort of like saying that Europeans have X number of words for "one:"
  +: one, un, une, uno, eine, odin, jedna, etc.  They are all related words that
  +: mean the same thing.     ^^^^^

t88swa@tdb.uu.se (Sven Wallman) writes:
  +
  +Odin? What language is that?

Ummmm...old Norse?


Terry "Not posting from Trondheim" Chan
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From: tina@csi.on.ca (Tina Klein)
Subject: urban folklore?
Organization: Carp Systems International, Kanata, ON
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:33:57 GMT

Ok - where's the connection that this group has to urban folklore?
Any Elvis sightings out there?
Anybody have a time-travel experience that they want to share?
Alligators in the sewage system...

I thought that urban folklore meant believing that goldfishes actually 
lived through the toilet-flush experience ....

PS Generic Disclaimer here ...
I want to see some folklore ...
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From: linden@positive.Eng.Sun.COM (Peter van der Linden)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: S n u f f: the proof at last.
Date: 16 Aug 1992 19:08:21 GMT
Organization: Old Bob's Snuff Film, Talent Agency, and Babysitting Service
NNTP-Posting-Host: positive

Dear Newsreader -- I am 8 years old.
     Some of my little friends say there is no snuff film.
     Papa says, "If you see it on Usenet, it's so."
     Please tell me the truth, is there a snuff film?

                               Virginia hsr4
                               115 West 95th St.
                               Oxford, England


     Hsr4, your little friends are wrong.  They have been affected by the
skepticism of a skeptical age.  They do not believe except they see.  They
think nothing can be which is not comprehensible to their little minds.  All
minds, Virginia, whether they be men's or children's are little.  In this
great universe of ours man is a mere insect, an ant, in his intellect, as
compared with the boundless world about him, as measured by the intelligence
capable of grasping the whole truth and knowledge.
     Yes, hsr4, there is a snuff film.  They exist as certainly as love
generosity and devotion exist, and you know that they abound and give to your
life its highest beauty and joy.  Alas! how dreary would be the world if there
were no snuff films!  It would be as dreary as if there were no hsr4's.
There would be no childlike faith then, no poetry, no romance to make 
tolerable this existence.  We should have no enjoyment except in sense and
sight.  The eternal light with which childhood fills the world would be
extinguished.
     Not believe in snuff film!  You might as well not believe in Ann Landers!
You might get your papa to hire men to watch in all the cinemas everywhere 
to catch a snuff film, but even if they did not see snuff coming down,
what would that prove?  Nobody sees snuff, but that is no sign that
there is no snuff film.  The most real things in the world are those that
neither children nor men can see.  Did you ever see fairies dancing on the
lawn?  Of course not, but that's no proof that they are not there.  Nobody can
conceive or imagine all the wonders there are unseen and unseeable in the 
world.
     You tear apart the baby's rattle and see what makes the noise inside,
but there is a veil covering the unseen world which not the strongest man,     
nor even the united strength of all the strongest men that ever lived, could
tear apart.  Only faith, fancy, poetry, love, romance can push aside that
curtain and view and picture the supernatural beauty and glory beyond.  Is
it all real?  Ah, Virginia, in all this world there is nothing else real and
abiding.
     No snuff film!  Thank God they are, and have been forever.  A thousand
years from now, Virginia, nay 10 times 10 thousand years from now, they will    
continue to make glad the heart of childhood.

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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: winslade@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Winslade)
Subject: Does Letterman read Usenet ??
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:34:37 GMT

Last Friday night, Letterman and Paul Shafer did a brief skit regarding
the stolen liver legend.  I just caught it out of the corner of my eye
but I saw Letterman playing like he was in pain and Shafer holding a
piece of liver from the NBC Commissary.  ;-)
 
Good day        JSW

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: jvmg9796@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (doc)
Subject: Re: Useful quips
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 02:28:03 GMT

arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva) writes:

>You have the lovely Found On Road Dead and the always amusing
>Fix Or Repair Daily.

Theres one for pontiac, but I cant say it on the net. :)
From: jane@soave.swdc.stratus.com (Jane Beckman)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Vacation Time!
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:58:16 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc., San Jose, CA

>>Years ago my dad had to build a new cow barn (the old one kind of burned down).
>>While my family was on vacation the guy with the excavator got this idea that
>>he should start working. When we returned we found a hole about 12 feet deep
>>and 1/4 acre wide - in the wrong place.
>
Sounds like my father's deck.  The contractor lost the plans
for this spare room and deck while we were on vacation.  We
arrived to this monstrosity that bore very little relation to
what had been designed, complete with stairs with 12" treads
and 14" risers (can you say STEEP?), a room that used the deck
for its ROOF (leaked like a sieve) and the whole durned thing
held up by an I-beam that used to support a bridge.  (I think
the only reason my da didn't sue was because this guy was the
only licensed contractor in that part of the county.  My
comment was "After this, you want to use him *again*?!")

--
  Jilara   [jane@swdc.stratus.com]

I've worn high-heeled pointed-toed fashionable shoes for the past 
twenty years, and you ask me about if *getting tattooed* hurt?!
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.sex
From: kasprj@isaac.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak)
Subject: Re: Semen, NOT sailors!
Keywords: A quart?!
Reply-To: kasprj@rpi.edu
Organization: The Big Wedge 
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 06:15:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.015423.19963@udel.edu>, bower@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Tyson Bower) writes:
|> I heard a similar story.  From what I heard, she was performing
|> fellatio on many men (on a dare or a bet) out in the parking lot
|> of the Spectrum, just before the Def Leppard concert last Friday.
|> Apparently, she had finished off 37 men before she said she felt
|> ill, and left in search of a restroom.  Later, they found her 
|> dead.  They assumed she died of sperm poisoning.

 This sounds a bit ridiculous to me. It's like saying someone died from
eating too many eggs. There is nothing poisonous in sperm, and while 
swallowing a quart of semen may be pretty sickening, I'm fairly sure 
it wouldn't be fatal. 
 
 Now, if she had some sort of allergic reaction, or if the guys were so
f*cked-up on some sort of drugs that the whole quart added up to a toxic
dose of something, that might kill her, but I'm skeptical as to whether 
either of those conditions could actually happen. Perhaps alt.sex could
shed some light on this. Is there such a thing as an allergy to sperm,
or to some ingredient of semen? Can some drugs concentrate in semen?
At any rate, I suspect that "sperm poisoning" is a non-existent medical
condition.
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader)
Subject: Re: Imponderables
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 17:14:19 GMT

> There's a book named "Why Clocks Run Clockwise and other Imponderables" by
> David Feldman.  ... I've paraphrased some of the more interesting points:
> 
>  -- What does zero degrees Fahrenheit signify?
> 
> German physicist Gabriel Daniel Fahrenheit, inventor of both the alcohol
> and mercury thermometer, meant 0 to represent an equal ice-salt mixture
> and 100 to represent body temperature.

Though this explanation is widely quoted, I've seen in disputed in a
history of thermometry.  (I don't remember the title or author; it was
a library book.)

The suggestion was that this was actually a hoax by Fahrenheit himself,
intended to mislead his competitors in the thermometer-making business!
And it's precisely because Fahrenheit made the best thermometers of his
day that his scale came into widespread use.

According to the book, the *real* fixed points on Fahrenheit's scale were
32 and 96.  32, of course, was the freezing point of water; and 96 was,
as Fahrenheit put it, "blood heat".  (Note that although most of us have
learned a particular value for body temperature, and it's probably higher
than 96 F, the exact value depends on where you measure it; there probably
are some ways to get that reading.)

Anyway, the significant thing about these particular numbers is that 32 is
a power of 2 and 96-32 is a power of 2.  That means that once you have
marked the two fixed points on the scale of your new thermometer, you
need only bisect the distance repeatedly -- and carry one of the intervals
down below the lower fixed point -- to fill in the entire scale.  Since
bisection is easy to do accurately, this contributes to the accuracy of
the thermometer.
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	 wouldn't, they don't certainly know that although you probably
	 wouldn't there's no probability that you certainly would."
	-- Sir Humphrey Appleby ("Yes, Prime Minister") on nuclear deterrence

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From: troch@gandalf.Rutgers.EDU (Rod Troch)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Cow Tipping/Alligators in Sewers
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:11:43 GMT
Organization: Right Coast HQ For Stupid Pub Tricks
In-reply-to: snopes%club33@stlth.enet.dec.com's message of 17 Aug 92 04:07:05 GMT


But don't cows sleep sitting/laying down?

How many actually sleep standing up, I though that as an UL of its
own... :-)

Rod 'Now where did I leave my cow blanket' Troch
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,sci.electronics
From: aduell@nyx.cs.du.edu (Tony Duell)
Subject: Re:  SHOCKING STORIES
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 16:51:47 GMT


A trick I often do is to wipe the solder off the end of my iron with my
fingertip. Very easy, and not at all painful if you just flick the tip
with your finger. But a lot of people won't beleive it's possible.
-tony 'PDP11 Hacker' Duell
ard@siva.bris.ac.uk

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: peterk@public.sub.org (Peter Kittel)
Subject: Re: The Salami (was Re: Credit Card ULs)
Organization: Public News & Mailserver, Commodore Germany PM UNIX, Frankfurt
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 15:33:52 GMT

jlpicard@austin.ibm.com (Craig Becker) writes:

>> (In a sense this is another version of the "salami scam" -- by overcharging
>                                              ^^^^^^
>> only in amounts too small to complain about you can collect significant
>> bucks from a large customer base.)

>I've always wondered...just _why_ is this called the "salami"?

Well, I think it comes from the fact that one slices salami normally very
thin. So when you cut off such a very thin slice off a salami sausage,
you will get the false impression that you have taken away practically 
*nothing*.  - But if you do it often enough, you *will* see the whole big 
sausage disappear.

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From: bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Scearce)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Driving tests
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:38:45 GMT
Reply-To: bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: sector7g

In article 15684@geovision.gvc.com, pt@geovision.gvc.com (Paul Tomblin) writes:
> [English person retested for driver's license in Canada, though she was
> a driving instructor in the old country] It's pretty standard not to
> accept the tests of other countries, I guess.

Or even other provinces.  I knew a guy who had to take a driving test
when he moved from Quebec to Ontario.  I think this is a good policy,
because the guy was *surprised* when he failed -- he gave me the
impression that getting his license in Quebec was mostly a matter of
showing up; "nobody fails their driving test!" was his attitude.

Brian "je me souviens, mais je ne conduise pas" Scearce

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