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From: borchert@i50s2.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Volker Borchert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Old ][e having trouble cold booting
Date: 11 Nov 1992 11:36:23 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Comp. Sc. Dept., FRG
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: i50s2.ira.uka.de


I had some trouble with an old ][+. The power supply was from Apple,
but the motherboard had been replaced (I bought it 2nd hand) with
some clone having 64K DRAM's and on-board Z80. This does not consume
enough power!
In fact, it does not draw enough current from +12V or -5V (I didn't
check exactly). As the original power supply has only one control
circuit, these tend to go up to levels where the overvoltage
protection circuit will shut down the supply and restart (see Apple
manual).
The solution is to draw some current from these supply rails. In my
case, 150 ohms from each to ground (= 80 mA for +-12V, 33mA for -5V)
was just enough.
(My configuration: Epson parallel printer card, Apple Super Serial
card, Videx 80 coloumn card, Eprommer - don't remember brand, two
disk ][ controllers, two disk ][ single drives, two compatible
drives, external Rafi keyboard, Apple power supply.)

Maybe you should try this before buying a new power supply.
From: noahm@pro-freedom.cts.com (Noah Magram)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Hyper C -- SOMONE PLEASE POST IT TO comp.binaries.apple2!!
Date: 7 Nov 92 18:50:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Nov7.115059.5414
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

I would like to apologize for my ingorant message.  As usual I go running
off at the mouth with out knowing all the options for getting something
from point A to point B. :)  Ah well..  Well to the ONE person who told me
how, Thanks!  
 
Next time, I'll use FTP-by-mail! :)
 
Later...
 
Noah
ProLine:  noahm@pro-freedom
Internet: noahm@pro-freedom.cts.com
UUCP:     crash!pro-freedom!noahm
==============================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jmk3@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Jay M. Krell)
Subject: Re: LARGE ShrinkIT file and //e
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date:  9 Nov 92 07:33:53 GMT

>From: bjbernstein@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
>Subject: LARGE ShrinkIT file and //e
 
>  I have a very large .SIT file that I'd like to decompress.. I only have
>an Apple //e with 128k, though (the 1000 block ProDOS file is on my Sider)
 
8-bit ShrinkIt does not extract StuffIt files, only GS-ShrinkIt.
 
  --Jay, jay.krell@cornell.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: richard@serss0 (Richard A Simm)
Subject: Re: Desktop for the E
Organization: Florida International University, Miami
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:17:21 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.193323.18329@wl.com> schultp@wl.com (Paul Schultz) writes:
}In article <DHoVTB1w165w@infopls.chi.il.us> hermes@infopls.chi.il.us (Eugene Skonicki) writes:
}}Is there any subsisdized prgramming language out there that allows the 
}}//e to design a GUI...Like some product or something 
}}Anybody Know?
}}                Eug
}}
}}--
}}hermes@infopls.chi.il.us (Eugene Skonicki)
}}Infoplus BBS, +1 708 537 0247, v32bis. Home of Infoplus.
}
}APDA used to sell the "Desktop ToolKit" (or some such name) which contained an
}EdASM toolkit for writing desktop programs for the double Hi-Res screen. They
}obviously haven't supported this package in quite some time. Check Resource
}Central to see if they carry it.  Also, a MousText version of the toolkit was
}also available.  (As was a toolkit for building "Appleworks" type interfaces
}for your programs.  Oh, the toolkits have BASIC routines also if my memory
}serves me correctly.  I have the "desktop" toolkit disks laying around at home
}(But I'm at work right now and can't remember anymore details).
}
}Paul Schultz
}schultp@wl.com
}-- 

I have a copy. It doesn't work 100% though. If you recall, the product
never made it to final release stages. I had fun playing with it though.
I don't do anything with it anymore and don't wish to part with it
anytime soon :)

It was easy to design stuff with the toolkit though. You could have the
basic GUI front-end done in a matter of days/weeks without trying much.

Albert
From: patrickd@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Lazer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple II SuperDrive card, Apple Catalog
Date: 5 Nov 1992 17:32:58 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

In article <k448631@pro-harold.cts.com> dcgreen@pro-harold.cts.com (David Green) writes:
>How does one acquire one of these Apple catalogs?

The one with the Apple advertising?  (pens, note pads, T-shirts, etc...)?

I too would like one (as would the rest of the civilized world I bet!)

Patrick Delahanty
WPI Box 550 / 100 Institute Rd
Worcester, MA  01609-2280
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InterNet: patrickd@wpi.wpi.edu|          the Future fan and co-sysop L/A Blues!
          lazer@lablues.UUCP  |Call L/A Blues BBS at (207) 777-3465 for IBM
    * I HATE MICROSOFT! *     |Mac, & Apple ][ files, TradeWars 2002, & USENET!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: ppuskari@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Petar E Puskarich)
Subject: Re: high speed modem use w/ proterm
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:10:59 GMT


Yes to the guy who said the upload problems go away at 9600 baud.  

This is very true with my machine.  I have the Motorala chip as well.

All is well at 9600 baud and below.  I am hoping to get the latest 
Proterm 3.0 drivers and or do the motherboard mod.

Thanks for checking into the problem,

Petar Puskarich
ppuskari@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.ibm.pc
From: sknkwrks@sonny-boy.cs.unlv.edu (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: Disk drive sticktion(?)
Organization: Skunk Works Software Co.
Date: 07 Nov 92 03:21:43 GMT

Odd, all this talk of stiction and 3.5" drives...I always thought
stiction was the exclusive problem of Seagate 5.25" drives.

  _/_   Scott Alfter                             Internet: sknkwrks@cs.unlv.edu
 / v \  Call the Skunk Works BBS today!           Ask me about SoftDAC--digital
(IIe (  (702) 894-9619 300-14400 V.32bis          audio for your Apple IIe/IIc!
 \_^_/  If Bill Clinton is the answer, it must've been a damn stupid question!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: yucath@leland.Stanford.EDU (Cathay Kwok Tai Yu)
Subject: Status of Apple IIGS Ethernet Card?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 06:33:57 GMT

I was wondering what was the status of the upcoming (?) Apple IIGS Ethernet
card.  Is it still in production/beta testing?  Developments along with
System Software 6.0.1?
From: j0p7771@tamuts.tamu.edu (Jason Perez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: how to scroll in a TextEdit control?
Date: 12 Nov 92 06:50:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: tamsun.1992Nov12.065012.3601
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station


  i've created a TextEdit control within a window using TENew.  i've
set the window up to have vertical and horizontal scroll bars.  i'm not
using the scroll bars from the TextEdit control because i wanted the
horizontal one also.  So, when i'm typing text, how do i tell when i've
reached the bottom of the window so i can call TEScroll?  i'm using
TaskMaster to manage events.  i looked at the codes TaskMaster sent back
and it doesn't look like it knows when the text being entered is no 
longer in the visible window.

Jason Perez			    | "Frodo Lives!"       "Gig 'em!"
j0p7771@tamuts.tamu.edu		    | Texas A&M Univ. - it's not just for 
j0p7771@sigma.tamu.edu		    |                   farmers anymore!
From: exuhag@exu.ericsson.se (James Hague)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: GEnieLamp
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:57:35 GMT
Reply-To: exuhag@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Richardson, TX
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

Jerry Penner writes:
>
>Due to a complaint about the excessive advertising for GEnie contained
>in the GEnieLamp newsletter, I will not be posting it anymore. 

Damn.  There was a lot of good information in there.

I think there are some people with the "no commercial uses of the net"
rule imprinted on their brains.  Maybe we should stop mentioning all
commercial products, because that gives free advertising?  Maybe me
should take the word "apple" out of the c.s.a2 name because that's the
name of a big-time computer company?

Seriously, I just always though of the Lamp as a good source of
news and interesting tidbits--I really liked the news about what
Bill H. and Roger Wagner, etc., were currently up to (from show
reports, etc.).  It never bothered  me that this information came
from Genie.

Is there any chance of bringing it back?

--
James Hague   
exuhag@exu.ericsson.se
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bird@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (j.l.walters)
Subject: Re: GEnieLamp
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 01:48:31 GMT

From article <jpenne.720938011@ee.ualberta.ca>, by jpenne@ee.ualberta.ca (Jerry Penner):
> Due to A complaint about the excessive advertising for GEnie contained
         ^
         |
----------

> in the GEnieLamp newsletter, I will not be posting it anymore.

I don't think you should be so sensitive about a single
complaint. I like the GEnielamp newsletter even though I have an
account on GEnie since posting it here allows me to get
interesting information for FREE ;-)

However, if you do put that much stock in one complaint, I have
one for you, "How come you haven't sent me $100,000 lately?"
-- 

		Joe Walters att!ihlpw!bird, IH 2A-227 (708) 979-9527
		To know, and not to do, is not yet to know
From: exuhag@exu.ericsson.se (James Hague)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: AVATAR
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:37:33 GMT
Reply-To: exuhag@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Richardson, TX
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article 3421@nuscc.nus.sg, ltchean@rambutan.iss.nus.sg (Lim Thye Chean) writes:
>
>What makes it a Super GS? Consider the following facts and figures of Avatar:

Does anyone know how the Avatar project is progressing?  Has anything
been done yet or is still in the "lots of talk" stage?

--
James Hague   
exuhag@exu.ericsson.se
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jcitro@cwis.unomaha.edu (Joe Citro)
Subject: Re: Inwords
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
 I was told in June 91 that the update was in beta test. I was told in June 92
 that the beta test was complete and that they were waiting for the manual
 to come back from the printer.  I wonder what they'll tell me in June 93????
 
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 04:47:17 GMT

-- 
                             Joe Citro  - CMSgt(Ret)/USAF              
           Secy/Treas-Metro Apple Comp.Hobbyist  (MACH)  - Omaha NE                                   Members of Apple II Alliance
 Internet - jcitro@cwis.unomaha.edu  --==[++]==--  America Online = JAX33
From: stuckey@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Anthony J. Stuckey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.apple2.advocacy
Subject: Re: GEnieLamp
Keywords: words which summarize the content
Date: 13 Nov 92 23:06:12 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy) writes:
>Indeed.  Including this thread (heh heh heh).  Personally I think it should
>just continue to be posted, since Scott is obviously the only person whom
>it offends.  I personally look forward to seeing it because of all the useful
>stuff in it.

	logic alert:
	that should be re-worded as "Scott is the only person whom it obviously
offends."  Some of us just don't get pissed off enough to tell you to stop.
--
Anthony J. Stuckey		stuckey@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu

"And if you frisbee-throw a universe where does it go?"
             Turquoise, Steve Blunt.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: What is Bison?
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 00:18:32 GMT

achauhan@warsaw.math.macalstr.edu (Amrit Chauhan) writes:


>What exactly is Bison?

  Being an Indian, you ought to know, Amrit.  'Bison' is another term
for 'buffalo'.

  Ooops! You're Asian Indian.  And you mean the _computer program_ Bison.
Oh.
 
  Bison is a parser generator.

-- 
 Jawaid Bazyar              |   Ask me about the GNO Multitasking Environment
 Procyon, Inc.              |   for the Apple IIgs!   
 bazyar@cs.uiuc.edu         |   P.O Box 620334
 --Apple II Forever!--      |   Littleton, CO 80162-0334   (303) 933-4649
From: cd866@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Marc Sira)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Just waiting for the CBA2 flames...
Date: 6 Nov 1992 06:23:11 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cd866@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Marc Sira)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) says:

>Well folks, you didn't want comp.binaries.apple2 moderated.  I hope
>everyone who votes against the proposal is now answering the 1-3
>questions per day that are inappropriately appearing there.

Peculiar notation...I would think 1-3 meant "one to three", but you
clearly mean 1 question per three days, or 1/3 questions per day, as
that more accurately represents the actual ratio. Which ratio, btw, is
usually exceeded by the flames & complaints following each inappropriate
(gasp!) posting.

Have you ever noticed that "internet" appears in anagrammatic form
within "anal retentive"? B-)

I'm not sure what to do with the "A Veal" that's left over, of course...

Marc
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: ddkilzer@iastate.edu (David D Kilzer)
Subject: Re: Hi-Speed Modems and //c
Cc: dratzlaf@nyx.cs.du.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:55:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.065923.11659@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dratzlaf@nyx.cs.du.edu
(Norby) writes:
>
>Since it seems that high-speed modems require hardware handshaking to
>operate properly, am I correct in assuming my //c will not properly handle
>a 9600 bps modem?  Ya know, with my crippled little 5-pin serial port and
>all...

Not that I'm aware of.  You might have difficulty with losing characters
because the CPU doesn't operate fast enough, but that's about it.  I'm
running a null modem at 19.2 kbaud with an 8MHz Zip Chip and I don't
have any problems losing characters!!  I think a 9600 baud modem should
work fine without a Zip Chip.

Dave
-- 
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ddkilzer@iastate.edu          /       Capt. Montgomery Scott ("Scotty")
Computer Engineer 3rd Class   \   "I may be a captain by rank, but I never
Iowa State University, Ames   /    wanted to be anything but an engineer."
From: irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: ATTENTION high-speed modem users (again :)
Date: 14 Nov 92 00:29:27 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Originator: irsman@pv3207.vincent.iastate.edu

As he promised earlier, here's the ProTERM 3.0 macro which shows the state of
CTS so you can check for the bug using the instructions posted earlier by
Brendan.  Note: this is being posted on behalf of Brendan, PLEASE do not mail
me as I know nothing about the subject.

--- snip here ----

 @@c
  set &0="CTS is Low^m"
  set &8="CTS is High^m"
  while (1) {
   * pr "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ^m" *
   pr #2,&(bits(modem),8)
  }
  ex

--- snip here too ---





-- 
        Ian Schmidt: irsman@iastate.edu or aol.com, BITNET: twbv4@isuvax       
  "I will choose a path that's clear: I will choose free will." - Neil Peart
   Ask me about the GS<>IRC demo...better yet ask daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: .tar, .zoo, .lzh, etc....
Originator: behrenss@hphalle7a.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 10:27:42 GMT


In article <kb02734@pro-nsdapple.cts.com>, meistro@pro-nsdapple.cts.com (Brian Plume) writes:

|> Where can I find a program that will undo the archive types listed in
|> the topic above?  (lha, lzh, .tar, .zoo) and on and on.......
|> If you know of a BBS or an FTP site (the better of the two) where I can
|> get a hold of such a program, I would greatly appreciate it.  Thanx in
|> advance.

Look on ccosun.caltech.edu. GSHK will undo old .zoo archives, booz will undo
Zoo 2.1 archives (booz runs only with a shell). tar can be undone with tar,
also needs a shell. lha and lzh can be undone by either using LHA (when it's
out of beta, that is :) or LHExt (which works, but is cumbersome to use).

Yours

Soenke
P.S.: Ah yes, you need a GS for all of the programs mentioned above.
-- 
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From: Lance.Taylor-Warren@dps.com (Lance Taylor-Warren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: RE: Usenet/Fido problems?
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:21:10 GMT


 TBT> > 
 TBT> >  * Origin: UseNet - FidoNET I Northern Nevada Gateway System
 TBT> (1:213/113.0) > 
 TBT> >  * Origin: L&L Support - Home of GBBS Pro (702) 322-5551 (1:213/312)
 TBT> 
 TBT>     Whoever is running L&L Support and the Usenet/Fido gateway should 
 TBT> check their software.  I'm getting garbled messages through info-apple...
 TBT> it looks like parts of the message are being inserted into the From: and
 TBT> Subject: fields.

I'm the guilty party, for some reason Fruity Dog is throwing certain messages back into the net.  It's a bug in Fruity Dog and until I find/talk to Evan about it I can't do a thing about it.  Sorry for any problems it causes.

Lance




 * Origin: Come to NV, spend your money, bring your water... (1:213/213.1)
From: elliota@pro-phx.cts.com (Elliot A)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Beta Testers Needed
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:37:06 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: ProLine [pro-phx] -- Glendale, Az

The following is a re-post found on a local bbs:

         From Charlie Hartley, author of Computer Keyboarding
                                         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
            a Public Domain typing tutorial for Apple IIs

     I'm looking for some people to beta test a new version of my Computer
Keyboarding program. This version is very much like my earlier versions except
that it combines some of the characteristics of each version.

     Specifically, this version allows multiple users on the same disk; and is
usable on a hard disk, on a 3.5 disk, or on two 5.25 disks. Not included on
this version are the lessons on typing paragraphs. These lessons are
incorporated in a new program that I have uploaded and called Intermediate
Typing.

     This version will be uploaded as shareware when I'm satisfied that most
of the bugs are gone. That's where you come in.

     I need testers who will test the program for me in one of the following
formats:

          on two 5.25 disk drives
          on one 5.25 disk drive
          on one 3.5 disk drive
          on a hard drive in a subdirectory

     In return, I will provide you with a free copy of the final program and
with my gratitude.

     It doesn't matter whether you use an Apple //e, IIGS, //c, or Laser. The
program should run on all of them. It would probably be useful to both of us
if you are using the program because you need to learn how to type, but it is
not necessary.

     If you want to be a beta tester for this project, send me an E-mail
letter on GEnie to C.HARTLEY3 or regular mail at

     Charles Hartley
     455 Foster Lane
     Shepherdsville, KY 40165

     Tell me your configuration: type of computer and disk drives; and the
format you want to use (see list above). Include your mailing address. I will
confirm with you by E-mail and then send you the necessary disk(s) by U.S.
mail. If we need to correspond about bugs, I will cover all of your postage.

     I believe that most of the bugs are already gone. However I don't have
the time to go through the program in each format to insure that. The changes
made in this version mostly have to do with moving from one file to the next
one. The main parts of each file remain the same and are already very stable.

     I hope to hear from a number of you in the very near future.

     ... Charlie

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From: wrh@PHYSICS.WM.EDU (William Hall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Dave Leffler
Date: 11 Nov 92 23:04:42 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


  Someone wanted the e-mail address for Dave Leffler.  Here are his GENIE and
AOL accounts:  (from the new ShowMe NDA on Apple2-L)

America Online: DAVE L32
GEnie:          D.LEFFLER
-- 
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                 |  hall@wmheg.physics.wm.edu  |  Department of Physics
                                               |  Williamsburg, VA  23187-8795
From: gasman@cyberden.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: An old tech saving the GS?
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 10:08:34 PST
Organization: Indescribable Creations

I was reminescing about my old times with a CoCo 3(0.9 MHZ and 64 colors, 
16 on screen) and I remembered an old digitizer technology. What would be 
done was to digitize a picture with a red filter, then a green filter, 
then a blue filter, and then to flip the screens together. A machine with 
64 colors would achieve _4096_ that way. I am wondering if someone can 
try this for an apple IIgs. It WOULD be nice to show all those who 
believe the apple is dead! True color on a gs...ahhhh!
Later,
        Gasman
P.S. Superconvert seems to have something similar to get true color, but 
he uses color bands and multiple palletes I believe.

__________________________________________________________________________
   |       /         |\
   | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N            [ gasman@cyberden.uucp ]
From: cd866@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Marc Sira)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: GEnieLamp
Date: 13 Nov 1992 22:46:13 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cd866@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Marc Sira)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, scott@b8.b8.ingr.com (Scott Gentry) says:

>toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Marc Sira) writes:
>>The "wasted bandwidth" thing is invoked so often, and consumes so much
>>bandwidth, that it carries no weight at all anymore. If we were all really
>>so concerned about bandwidth usage, Usenet would not exist, or barely exist.
>
>Spoken like someone who doesn't know any better.  My site is a news relay
>to six other sites.  To say bandwidth doesn't matter is a joke.  Oh, disk
>space matters, too.  

Uh-huh...my point, Scott, was that so much bandwidth is wasted every day
(right now, for instance) that to complain about the few lines of ads in
the newsletter is absurd. Bandwidth is also expended without use if you
choose to answer a message without actually reading the whole thing, and
by quoting so as to misrepresent.

And, I am aware that advertising is verboten on the Internet...I'd be
perfectly happy if it were verboten in this society. Again, this was my
point - if you're going to whine about this issue, at least whine about
the fact of advertising, not the specific amount of bandwidth it
consumes.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: sadasiva@utkvx3.utk.edu (Sadasivam, Krishna Madur)
Subject: Pinball Wizard GS
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:21:00 GMT

Was Pinball Wizard EVER released for the Apple //gs? I remember seeing an ad
for it in one of my old Accolade catalogs...

What the //gs needs is some KILLER pinball machine simulations!

To the person working on Spy Hunter GS, I can hardly wait for it to ship!!!


Krish