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From: nissim@mary.fordham.edu (Leonard J. Nissim)
Subject: Two instances of Simpson's "paradox"
Organization: Fordham University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:14:00 GMT
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In this long, bleak off-season, Richard J. Friedlander has noted two 
instances of Simpson's "paradox".  (It is not really a paradox, just an
anti-intuitive truth:  Player A can beat Player B in batting average for
each of two years, while B has the higher batting average for the two 
years combined.  Actually, more than 2 years could be involved; the actual 
instances below are for 2.)

First case
----------

                Ken Oberkfell      Mike Scioscia    
                AB   H    BA       AB  H    BA      Comment  
1983           488  143  .293      35  11  .314    Scioscia wins 1983
1984           324   87  .269     341  93  .273    Scioscia wins 1984
2-year Total   812  230  .283     376 104  .277    Oberkfell wins 2-year period


Second case
-----------

                Dave Justice       Andy Van Slyke
                AB   H    BA       AB  H    BA      Comment  
1989            51   12  .235     476 113  .237    Van Slyke wins 1989
1990           439  124  .282     493 140  .284    Van Slyke wins 1990
2-year Total   490  136  .278     969 253  .261    Justice wins 2-year period

Credits:  E. H. Simpson published the possibility of this or similar
          "paradoxes" in the Journal of the Royal Statistical Society in 1951.
          R. J. Friedlander published these examples in the current issue of 
          The American Mathematical Monthly (Nov. 1992)

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Disclaimer:  "I speak only for myself."   
World Championships:  Brooklyn-----1955   
                      Los Angeles--1959  1963  1965  1981  1988
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From: ism1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (IAN SETH MILLER)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Yankees pitching staff
Date: 8 Nov 92 03:40:01 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <BxD3Cv.M7y@unix.amherst.edu>, ddsokol@unix.amherst.edu (D. DANIEL SO
KOL) writes:
>Can somebody tell me who what the rumors are for the Yankee pitching staff of
>next year.  I just read in the NY Times that the Yanks traded yet another
>pitcher away.  Aside from Melido Perez who is amazing and should have won at
>leat 18 games, and Steve Farr, are there any good pitchers still left on
>the team?  Will Cone, Drabeck, Maddux or Swindell become Yankees?
>What about Barry Bonds?  It seems to me that there is space for him in left
>field.

First of all, I want to add the Yankees have just sold Greg Cadaret to the
Reds for an undiscloused amount of cash.  The Yankees really must sign one of
the pitchers you mention above before they worry about Bonds.  Right now Cone
is the most likely candidate.  Otherwise the staff will have Perez coming back
with Miletelo and probably Bob Wickman.  Their bullpen is a little depleted
now without Cadaret witch gives them no lefties except Jerry Nielson, who
played double A most of last year. Haybayan, Farr and Monteleone will be back,
but beyong that they might be in for some trouble.

Bons will definately be a great addition in left, but the Yankees priority
must be piching first and also they need a better catcher for Nokes, who
although is a lefty hitting for power, his average is low and his defense is
poor.

       Ian


>       Danny Sokol-Amherst College
>       DDSOKOL@Amherst.edu
>
From: mjs@fc.hp.com (Marc Sabatella)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: You thought Zim cursed the Rockies.....
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:57:54 GMT
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In any case, the ex-Cubs will prevent the Rockies from winning the World
Series, but they're hardly likely to get there any time soon; certainly the
Gerbil's average length of stay is but a fraction of the time it will take to
get there.

--
Amendment 2 - Shame On You, Colorado
--
Marc Sabatella
marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
--
a disgusted resident of the first state in history of the union
to enact a constitutional amendment that explicitly legalizes discrimination
against a particular minority
--
All opinions expressed herein are my personal ones
and do not necessarily reflect those of HP or anyone else.
From: sgs@stein.u.washington.edu (Steven Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Birthdays
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:31:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov6.193156.14673
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Baseball Birthdays

November 6
Walter "Big Train" Johnson, 1887 (HOF)
John Candelaria, 1953
Mack "The Knife" Jones, 1938
Ron Romanick, 1960
Bailey Earl Clark, 1907
Buddy Kerr, 1922
Danny Green, 1876

November 7
Jim "Kitty" Kaat, 1938
Joe Niekro, 1944
Dick "Dr, Strangeglove" Stuart, 1932
Bill Brubaker, 1910
Buck Martinez, 1948
Joe Hatten, 1916

November 8
Bucky Harris, 1896 (HOF)
Ed Kranepool, 1944
Jerry Remy, 1952
John Denny, 1952
Gary Lucas, 1954
Wally Westlake, 1920
Tony Cuccinello, 1907
Dwight Smith, 1963
Jeff Blauser, 1965

--Steve
-- 
 sgs@u.washington.edu             * "Now, Piniella or Davey Johnson I
 Steve Smith                      *  could live with. But what about
 University of Washington HR-20   *  Chambliss now that Baylor's snatched?
 Seattle, WA 98195                * 		--Me
From: mspede@atlas.nafb.trw.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: The New Yuck Mets:A Look Ahead
Date: 12 Nov 92 09:29:22 PST

In article <1992Nov12.012811.989@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca>, cs3ea3ai@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Edberg '92) writes:
>>Finally a stable shortstop who can hit, has a great glove, and is a proven veteran....
> 
> Nothing against Tony Fernandez, but there are some points you should know
> about Pandorra's box.
> 
> i)  He is stable, at the plate, that's for sure.  His last three years in the
>     majors, he's hit .276, .272, and .275.
> 
> ii)  While in Toronto, his defence was spectacular, earning him high accolades,
>      unfortunately he had some trouble adjusting to grass in San Diego in 1991,
>      but committed only 11 errors last year.  His range rating (which I don't
>      pay much attention to) was the worst in the NL last year.  But I agree
>      with you that his defence is still one of his strong points.
> 
> iii) Ah, yes, the proven veteran part.  Being from Toronto, I watched Tony for
>      eight years, and on the field, he was stalwart.  Unfortunately, off the 
>      field, he was a lot like George Bell, and this was one of the main reasons
>      he was traded.  His attitude sucks.  I figured what New York needs right
>      now was some team players.  But then again, they need some talent.
> 
> 	Just a few thoughts...
> 

   Here's a question for Dave Demers (or other San Diego fans).

   Do I have the SD ss history down right ?   During the 80's, San Diego
   is relatively happy with Ozzie Smith & Gary Templeton, then Templeton
   starts to get old.  San Diego then spends a season or two floundering
   at the ss position.  Then the TRADE.  Now after only two seasons, SD
   trades it's SS solution without a real alternative (yah, I know,
   there's Stillwell.)   
 
   So is Fernandez an attitude problem ?  Was it just a cost decision ?
   Or did SD figure out that Fernandez is one season away from becomming
   the SS version of the Tree Stump (tm-GH) ?

   Just Curious,
   Mark "Proud Member of the Fall 1992 Softball Champs" Pede
   
   { in small print -- of course it is 'D' league.  :-(  }
From: weir@cbmvax.commodore.com (Robert Weir - Manuals)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Cubs Protected List
Date: 13 Nov 92 21:02:18 GMT
Reply-To: weir@cbmvax.UUCP (Robert Weir - Manuals)
Organization: Commodore Technology, West Chester, PA

>>Pitchers -- Bullinger, Castillo, Hollins, Morgan, McElroy,
>>	      Scanlan

Where's Mike Harkey? He's a solid #3 starter. Do the Cubs think
teams will pass on him because of injury history? 

>>Catchers -- Walbeck, Wilkins

I'm not familiar with Walbeck. Was he in AA in 1992? Wilkins over 
Joe Girardi seems plausible, but Walbeck over Girardi?

>>Infielders -- Buechele, Grace, Sanchez, Sandberg, Vizcaino

Cubs start the season with a veteran 3rd baseman. Mon dieu! But
where-o-where is Shawon? Do the Cubs figure his contract is too
large? I don't think the Cubs would miss him too much. He's 
done well, but not so well as expectations go. Sanchez or Vizcaino
would fill out SS.

>>Outfielders -- May, Sosa (after a Sosa year)

Dwight Smith left unprotected? Kiss him bye-bye.


What are the chances to resign G. Maddux? He'll ask for the moon,
but of all the pitchers available, he and Cone are worth the 
money. They win and throw a lion's share of innings.

Are the Cubs giving up on Andre?





RSW


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From: west@esd.dl.nec.com (Mike West)
Subject: Rangers 15-man protected list
Organization: NEC America, Engineering & Support
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:34:08 GMT

Since there appears to be a few Ranger fans out there, I thought I
would post this:

Published in the Dallas Morning News today is the Expansion Draft
protected list.  In no particular order, the 15 Rangers protected are:

	Kevin Brown
	Terry Burrows
	Roger Pavlik
	Kenny Rogers
	Nolan Ryan
	Dan Smith
	Matt Whiteside
	Ivan Rodriguez
	Julio Franco
	Jose Oliva
	Rafael Palmeiro
	Dean Palmer
	Jose Canseco
	Juan Gonzalez
	David Hulse

Notable (for the Rangers anyway) players left off are:

	Brian Bohanon
	Scott Chiamparino
	Hector Fajardo
	Jeff Huson
	Monty Fariss
	Jeff Frye
	Kevin Reimer

The only suprise to me is that they protected Julio Franco.  By protecting
him they are saying they believe that his knee will be healthy again.
By unprotecting Kevin Reimer they are saying that he will primarily be
the DH.  The pitchers unprotected (Bohanon, Chiamparino, Fajardo) were
left off because of their recent injuries.  The News seems to be
concerned about the Rangers leaving Jeff Huson off the list because
he is their only SS at the moment, but I think it is a non-concern because
he will not be the first Ranger taken (I think Fajardo stands the best
chance if the net.wisdom is correct about his talent).

In other Rangers news, Willie Upshaw, most recently in the Toronto
organization, has been hired as the new hitting coach.  They also
appearantly have an offer out to Jackie Moore (Cincinnati bench coach),
who must now decide whether to follow Pinella to Seattle or come to
Texas.  Two other people reportedly next on the offer list are Mickey
Hatcher (Los Angeles minor league coach) and Marc Sullivan (Rangers
advance Scout).

Mike West
west@esd.dl.nec.com
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From: grabiner@math.harvard.edu (David Grabiner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Transaction List
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:38:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: germain.GRABINER.92Nov10173606
Organization: /etc/organization
In-reply-to: libwca@emory.edu's message of 10 Nov 92 21:13:43 GMT

In article <1363@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>, Bill Anderson writes:

> : When are these lists going to be made public??

> Never, if Major League Baseball has it's way.  The lists are given
> only to league officials and officials from the expansion teams,
> and MLB has threatened to impose a $250,000 fine on any team that
> leaks.  The reason fro this, I suppose, is to avoid arbitration
> problems and unfair trading advantages.  
> So, my question is: Where are all these lists coming from?  We've
> got the Rangers so far, and the Yanks and the Twins... are these
> educated guesses by sportswriters, or has the process sprung leaks
> already?

There is an article in today's NY Times which says that sources close to
the Yankee organization have said that Tartabull will be protected.  I
suspect there are some leaks, but I don't know how much to trust them.

I wasn't a baseball fan in '77; how did they handle the protected lists
then?

--
David Grabiner, grabiner@zariski.harvard.edu
"We are sorry, but the number you have dialed is imaginary."
"Please rotate your phone 90 degrees and try again."
Disclaimer: I speak for no one and no one speaks for me.
From: vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan)
Subject: Re: 5 most unbreakable records...
Organization: Vince and Suzie's Underpowered PC
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 06:04:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov2.224600.7423@mksol.dseg.ti.com> dansmith@mcopn2.dseg.ti.com writes:
>In article 8907@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP, ccohen+@pitt.edu (Caleb N Cohen) writes:
>>What about Elroy Faces 18 consecutive wins???

> Not really considering Tom Glavine won 13 consecutive this year and if
> he hadn't injured himself had a chance to do better. 18 consecutive wins
> is impressive but hardly unbreakable. Every pitcher at the beginning of
> every year has a shot at it (starting pitchers). They also have a shot at
> it during the year, not just at the beginning. If someone came within 5 wins
> this year of tying this record, how is it possibly unbreakable?
>

yep.
didn't Carlton have about 15 in 1972 ?


-- 
     ---------- Vince Skahan --------- vince@victrola.sea.wa.us ----------
    Running Linux/C-news/trn/Elm/Smail - we don't need no steenkin' MS-DOS
From: bm562@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard L. Trionfo)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: jints to stay
Date: 11 Nov 1992 23:52:44 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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    Isn't it kind of ironic that Bill "I'm a lame duck lame 
league president" White who did so much to get the city of 
San Francisco to put up any offer, and supposedly told the 
group to increase the original $95 million deal.  
At least he knows that his retirement party will not be
in Western Florida.  Maybe the owners can abolish the post
for the sake of Rob Dibble, because the new pres may suspend
him for a while if he does something really dumb.
   Is there anything else the Major Leagues do to fuck things
up for the fans of baseball.  First, Fay Vincent gets hosed(he 
wasn't the greatest, but reallignment is necessary), John Ziegler
is the new Bo Schembechler of the Tigers, the BS settlement 
for expansion, and finally the blatant breach of contract.
   Can the Blue Jays do something about Eric Lindros so they
can get baseball involved in that monstrocity of negotiating
skill.
              Rich
From:  (Gerry Gryschuk)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: MLB vs Japan All-Stars
Date: 6 Nov 92 07:58:08 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Saskatchewan

From article <1992Nov4.050518.25852@serval.net.wsu.edu>, by jjungbau@yoda.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer):
> 
> In case anyone cares, today's score was
> 
>     Japan AS   10
>     MLB AS      3
> 
> Don't have any game notes.  I think R.Sierra had a HR
> and D.Martinez got shelled.  R.Clemens is scheduled to
> pitch next game.

Being a big Martinez fan I'm going to correct this impression you left.

From what I read in the paper, Martinez only gave up 2 runs when he was
pulled in the 5th, hardly a shelling.

Another of my favorite pitchers Duane Ward relieved Martinez and apparently
pitched 2 and 1/3rd innings of shut out ball.

Norm Charlton(I think it was him) came on in the 8th and proceeded to give
up 6 runs.
--
Gerald Gryschuk            Saskatoon,Saskatchewan = a place with 9 months
gerry@sask.usask.ca           of hockey and 3 months of poor skating.
Go Habs!!!		              (The Bum rules!!!)
From: mspede@atlas.nafb.trw.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: 5 truly unbreakable records.
Date: 9 Nov 92 10:09:12 PST

In article <92312.155110RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu>, RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu writes:
> i did not forget jamie quirk.  year by year slugging averages for
> the quirkster:
> 
>     1975  .333  <>  4.000
>     1976  .325  <>  4.000

    {data deleted}

>     1989  .235  <>  4.000
>     1990  .413  <>  4.000


 This discussion of Jamie Quirk reminds me of another little tidbit.

 According to my Franklin, the Quirkster had at least 1 ML AB every year 
 from '75 to '91.  When you consider that he has (as of '91) 2089 total 
 AB's, he has averaged less that 125 AB's/year for 17 years.  That's a lot
 of bench time or minor league time, or both.

 Anybody else (non-pitchers, of course) hang on for 15+ years while averaging
 less than 120 AB's.

 P.S. The Franklin doesn't keep PA or BB totals.... :-(

 Mark Pede
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From: fass@math.uwaterloo.ca (The FASS Theatre Company)
Subject: Re: Who was the favorite player of your youth?.
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: world,local
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:05:50 GMT

The favourite player of my youth was Therman Munson.
As a kid I thought they were saying Herman Munster.

Lee.

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From: chill@cbnews.cb.att.com (daniel.a.miller)
Subject: Re: Who was the favorite player of your youth?.
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 12:03:15 GMT

Pitcher(releif): Al " The Mad Hungarian" Habroski
Pitcher(starter): Luis Tiant
Infielder: Brooks Robinson (tie) Dwayne " 1 Lifetime Homerun" Kiper
Outfielder: Bobby Bonds
Catcher: Johnny Bench 

- Dan
  Tribe in 94'
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From: kubey@sgi.com (Ken Kubey)
Subject: Re: Greatest moments in baseball history
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:48:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.174245.28862@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> doli@troi.cc.rochester.edu (David Oliver) writes:
>
>To keep the winter going I'm going to post a new thread for discussion.
>(In a similar vein to "Favorite Players of my Youth" and "Most unbreakable
>records)  Here is my short list of greatest moments in baseball history
>(use whatever interprestation you want)

In no particular order:

Francisco Cabrera's NLCS winning single.
Chris Chambliss' ALCS winning homer.
Dave Henderson's ALCS tying homer.
Carlton Fisk's foul pole homer.
Dave Dravecky's comeback game.
Rose striking out to end his 44 game hitting streak.
Rose getting a hit to pass Ty Cobb.

The San Francisco Giants rallying to beat the Dodgers in the bottom
  of the 9th in their final meeting this year.
The San Francisco Giants rallying to win their final game this
  year on a grand slam by Greg Litton in the 14th? inning.

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From: arrow@netcom.com (Les Arrow)
Subject: Re: Greatest moments in baseball history
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 06:28:20 GMT

>Les, old buddy!
>
>Your claim that Kirk Gibson's WS homer was "fantastic" is a bit misguided.
> The only good Dodger is a dead Dodger.

As a Dodger fan, I count my WS rings at you.

--Les
From: doctor8@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Jason Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Unofficial Protected Lists from San Jose Mercury
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:41:00 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.baseball
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University - HCF
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <mcmath-121192125146@mcmathmac.nlm.nih.gov>, mcmath@csb1.nlm.nih.gov (Chuck 'Big, Red, & Furry' McMath) writes...
>In article <1992Nov12.174019.1662@leland.Stanford.EDU>,
>myles@leland.Stanford.EDU (Myles Sussman) wrote:
>> 
>> Warning:  The Mercury News probably doesn't know for sure.
>> 
>> From the San Jose Mercury News, 11/12/92:
>>
>> Baltimore Orioles
>> P  Frohwirth, McDonald, Mills, Mussina, Olson, Pennington, Rhodes
>> C  Hoiles
>> IF Alexander, Gomez, C. Ripken, Segui
>> OF Anderson, Devereaux, Mercedes
>> 
>	Well, there's definitely a problem with this one (so the disclaimer is
>true after all!).  Glenn Davis has to be protected because he has a no-cut
>contract, so I'd assume you'd strike Segui's name and add Davis'.
> 

	The Baltimore Evening Sun reported today that Glenn Davis is going
to be asked to waive his no-cut contract, so they can leave him unprotected
and hold onto Segui.  This is probably due to general disillusionment with
Davis' not playing for 2 years (although he impressed in the short time
he did play).
	Segui is still young, is much better defensively, and would 
be taken quite early in the draft.  Davis might be snagged by Denver (if he's
willing to waive his rights), but probably won't be that big of a loss for
the O's.  Segui might one day turn into a .280 hitter who can pole out
5 big ones a year at Camden Yards.  Still, he's young, not yet injury prone,
and is considerably less expensive than Going, Going, Glenn!
	Probably a pretty wise move by Roland Hemond and the O's front
office.  However, I just don't know about Luis Mercedes.  I don't think he's
shown any kind of skill at all over the past 2 years, and I'm sure I'd still
rather have Joe Orsulak on my team.  For now.

							Jason Miller
						Paul Gibson - 1992 Cy Acker!
From: niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Yankees protected list
Date: 12 Nov 92 09:14:38 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <1992Nov10.212228.600@osf.org> ron@osf.org (Ron Birnbaum) writes:
>In article <10NOV199213370980@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu>, yankees@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Kenneth M Gelfand) writes:

>|> According to the NY Times, here are the players the Yankees have
>|> supposedly protected:

>|> 	Don Mattingly	
>|> 	Pat Kelly
>|> 	JT Snow
>|> 	Melido Perez
>|> 	Bob Wickman
>|> 	Sam Millitello
>|> 	Rich Monteleone
>|> 	Sterling Hitchcock
>|> 	Mark Hutton
>|> 	Paul O'Neill
>|> 	Bernie Williams
>|> 	Gerald Williams
>|> 	Carl Everett

Just a point: these are the NYT's guesses based on their own ideas and
"Yankee sources."  This is NOT the official list.

>  Who's going to play SS & 3B?? How can they not protect their best
>reliever (Farr) and best hitter (Tartabull)?

Because they don't think Tartabull will be taken -- he's injury prone
and can't field, and he's expensive.  Also, I'm not sure the Yankees are 
smart enough to realize that he *is* their best hitter.

Besides, if they're planning on signing Bonds, they'd WANT to let
Tartabull go.

As to 3b/ss, remember that they can only lose one player in the draft.
So if they lose Stankiewicz, they still have Velarde and Gallego.  If
they lose Hayes, they still have Velarde and Meulens, not to mention
Leyritz.

>|> The last two spots are up for grabs between these guys:

>|> 	Danny Tartabull >|> 	Charlie Hayes
>|> 	Randy Velarde   >|> 	Brad Ausmus
>|> 	Steve Farr      >|> 	Russ Springer
>|> 	Russ Davis

>|>	The Times is also reporting that Tartabull's agent was told that
>|>he was protected.  In other news, Barry Bonds told WABC radio that he would
>|>"love to play for the Yankees." May be a negotiating ploy, but one can hope.

>|> The three Yankees taken through the draft: 
>|>    Kevin Maas, Mike Stanley, Jim Leyritz (still praying)

>  What about Andy Stankewicz?? Why wasn't he protected? Habyan? I'd say they
>had to protect Tartabull and Farr. Why protect O'Neill?? He ain't 1/2 the 
>player Tartabull is!! Heck - forget about Snow, for that matter - he's too old
>now to develop into a great player. Although he is good trade bait - and the
>Yanks should have traded him before the draft.Of course, they never should have
>traded Kelly for O'Neill, but that's another matter.

The Yankees have too many 1b/dh type players.
Tartabull/Maas/Snow/Mattingly.

Tartabull can play of, but then one of Williams/Williams/O'Neill has to sit.
Not that that is a bad idea, with Gerald Williams.

But that still leaves someone out, and if they sign Bonds that leaves
someone else out.

-- 
David M. Nieporent   | Mike Mussina 1992 AL Cy Young Winner
niepornt@phoenix.    |------------------------------------ 
   princeton.edu     | "I still believe in a place called Hope."
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