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From: dsturm@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc,rec.arts.sf.marketplace,alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Klingon Language Institute
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:39:03 GMT


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Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
From: papinoja@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi (Hemmo Papinoja)
Subject: Bookstore info wanted
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 09:04:34 GMT

        I'm interesting in H.R.Giger's art works and I've heard
        that a bookstore named FORBIDDEN PLANET in New York sells
        those items. Do anybody know the FAX number of that
        store? 

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        Ruutikatu 5 B 20        
        02600 ESPOO
        FINLAND
        
        "We won't let you go out of here... Me, Smith & Wesson"
        - Clint Eastwood as "Dirty" Harry Callahan
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Subject: Re: Script Query: _The_Princess_Bride_
From: terr05@v9.vitro.com
Date: 25 Aug 92 15:02:10 -0500
Organization: Vitro Corporation
Nntp-Posting-User: mbwatch

In article <1992Aug25.001243.20721@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, sorourke@lonestar.utsa.edu (Sean J. Orourke) writes:
> [much deleted]
>>Capofeiro.
>>> Inigo: 		Unless the enemy has'a studied his Agrippa!
>>Which I have.                       [this one I'm not too sure of]
> 
> I always thought this was "Unless the enemy has'a studied his'a grip'a!"
>     

The first post was correct. All these names are famous fencing masters. The
cover about 100-150 years of fencing.
						Jim
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 21:59:29 -0400 
From: W Darren Prouty <wp11+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Lack 'o Lives Continues...

My GOD!!!!
I leave for three months (a nice summer vacation w/o a computer, which
is something which might send most of you into shock) and when I return,
I find out that you dorks have FINALLY left the endless debates about
the speed of the Millenium Falcon and time spans in Empire to go on to
what.....?!!....well, I don't know, because I decided not to read the
posts so that I wouldn't have to pity you fools anymore, but there are
more Alien/Aliens titles than I've ever seen.
I'm FINALLY unsubscribing to this bboard.


GET A LIFE!




W.D. is BACK!!!!!

(and so is Jubin...so have one of his days!)
From: glambert@pyramid.com (George Lambert)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: The Stand (was RE: Movie indentification request)
Date: 26 Aug 92 01:08:04 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology

In article <17ddtoINNehv@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> brettw@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Brett D. Watson) writes:
>ccw@prefect.uucp (26554-wood) writes:
>
>>In article <92227.065231MNHCC@CUNYVM.BITNET>, Marty Helgesen <MNHCC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>
>[... description deleted ...]
>
>>Aside from the bird part, this sounds an awful lot like the Stephan King
>>novel "The Stand". The disease was a cold virus, created in the lab as a
>>bio-weapon, that out-mutated the hosts immune system.  Imagine getting
>>about a dozen colds back to back, and finally overlapping.  For a couple
>>of years aftwr reading this, I became very nervous every time I got a
>>cold that lingered...
>
>>The ending of the novel sucked, btw...
>
>  OH!  OH!  You HAD to tell me that!  I am about 1/3 of the way
>through the uncut version.  I really like it so far.  It's very wordy,
>with lengthy descriptions but I like it.  Now don't go and post what
>HAPPENS in the end, even if it DOES suck :-)
>
That's just one person's opinion.  I've read both versions, and found the 
uncut version's ending to be very fine indeed.  The original did leave much
to be desired.  Just another opinion, but I'd say keep reading.

George Lambert
From: mcirvin@husc8.harvard.edu (Mcirvin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Inconsistent science in SF films
Date: 31 Aug 92 01:16:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc8.mcirvin.715223777

(Total Recall spoilers, I suppose)

walrus@bessel.umd.edu (Grig Larson) writes:

>In Total Recall, there was a HUGE problem of their concept of air pressure.
>Now, I'm no physicist, but I do know some stuff about air pressure.  I
>really doubt that if you were thrown out unprotected into the martian air,
>and dispite a huge part of oxygen was tossed out of a volcano near you,
>that your eyes would bug out and then they would get better with no apparent
>damage.

You are, of course, correct.  It was even sillier than Outland.

Actually, that was one of the less ridiculous things depicted.  "Cheap
domes" are one thing, but would you build an enormous atmosphere-
enclosing habitat entirely out of single-layered, easily shattered
glass?  Are we really supposed to believe that long-term exposure
to whatever radiation was getting through the domes produces legions
of telepathic mutants?  How could the atmosphere converter convert
the whole planet in seconds without ripping everything to shreds?
And... my favorite thing of all... according to Arnie, the "whole
core of Mars" (apparently up to a radius just below the pyramid)
consists of ice!  Which makes one wonder how it got as dense as
it is.  The mass of Mars is *known*, from the orbits of its
moons and of several space probes.

The standard dodge for this, I believe, is to cite all of this as
proof that the whole plot was in fact a hallucination.  The question
is who was hallucinating:  Schwarzenegger's character, or the writers.

If you need that much suspension of disbelief, you might as well
write a straight fantasy.

>That almost ruined the film for me.  I mean, if they were going to throw in
>the realistics of martain atmosphere, they should have been somewhat
>acurrate or not done it at all.  I would have liked it better if you just
>died of lack of oxygen or something, 

I thought it was also interesting that nobody mentioned how cold
it is on Mars.

-- 
Matt McIrvin, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA 
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From: flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip Russell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Script Query: _The_Princess_Bride_
Date: 26 Aug 92 08:20:17 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <l9jks0INNa1o@aludra.usc.edu> joshuali@aludra.usc.edu (Joshua Ling) writes:
>In article <984@savage.UUCP> zap@savage.UUCP (Zap Savage) writes:
>>BRAY CHRISTOPHER (braca2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au) wrote:
>>
>>Actually, there is no S. Morgenstern that I've ever found.  William Goldman
>>wrote the book and screenplay, using S. Morgenstern as an excuse not to fill
>>in every page.  Those other pages were only interesting to history buffs.


>Read The Princess Bride by William Goldman. In the forward he states that
>his father read the S. Morganstern book to him, deleting the boring stuff.
>There *WAS* an S. Morganstern. In the Goldman novel he says that he looked 
>everywhere for the S. Morganstern book and finally found it. It was a book
>that was a satire on the Florin history.

No there wasn't an S. Morganstern.

All the little bits about his father reading the story to him was fiction
right along with the rest of the book. This is a little trick that some
authors use to make their stories more interesting. In this case it
helps the reader get their mind set for a children's type story that
is also good for adults.

Lit classes aren't all that boring it seems. I remember a little of it. 8-)

Flip


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From: ins894r@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Aaron Wigley [Wigs])
Subject: Re: Script Query: _The_Princess_Bride_
Organization: Monash University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 23:10:31 GMT

S. Spencer Sun (spencer@phoenix.Princeton.EDU) wrote:
: Personally I thought the best exchange in the sword-fighting scene was
: 
: "Who ARE you?"
: "No one of consequence."
: "I must know..."
: "Get used to disappointment"
: 
: :-)  but the whole scene is a gem... (even if it is bullshit
: swordfighting, which someone has said on this newsgroup before)

Personally, I love the entire movie, but hey - thats IMHO :)

Of course a quote that comes to mind is during the battle of Wits:
".. and Australia is entirely peopled with criminals .."

The Wigs of Oz,
Aaron Wigley
From: v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Plot holes in Alien^3 (*S
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:31:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: acsu.Bu2MDI.82J
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep3.181200.16771@tandem.com>, Montague_Kevin@Tandem.com (Kevvy Kev) writes...
>In article <sjurk.25@dhhalden.no>, sjurk@dhhalden.no (SJUR KRISTIANSEN) writes:
>> 
>> In article <1992Sep2.093007.7744@comp.lancs.ac.uk> marc@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Marc Goldman) writes:
>I gave up on pointing stuff like this out. . .it's yet another inconsistency 
>that can't be explained away, so what's the point in hashing it out...this
>is the same question as, "How was Ripley able to hold a face-hugger off her,
>when they're able to exude an acid strong enough to eat through Kane's helmet?"
>Evidence would seem to point to the f'hugger(s) in 3 trying to break the glass
>to get at the sleeper(s), and getting injured on shards, bleeding acid, and
>causing a fire.  NOT.  They can sear their way through such glass, as shown
>in the first movie.

If the creature used acid on Ripley, then she would have died, and thus,
being not suitable for its purpose.

Mayb it was flammable.

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From: U52025@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Has the new BLADERUNNER movie come out yet??
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:08:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: uicvm.92248.090857U52025
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago


I watch Jay Leno this week and saw Roger Hauer(SP?) promoting the new BLADERUNN
ER movie. I was wondering when it will come out and also how much different is
this movie to that of the old one?
From: moscatel@granite.ma30.bull.com (Joseph Moscatelli)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Help with movie title
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:07:44 GMT
Organization: Bull HN Information Systems Inc.

In article <MARKF.92Aug25181253@montreux.ai.mit.edu> markf@zurich.ai.mit.edu writes:
>
>  I am helping a friend who is trying to discover the name (and any
>other info) of a movie that he remembers seeing on TV around 1968.
>
>  The movie is set at some time in the not too distant future and
>centers around a game called "the big hunt". In this game a person
>registers his name with a big computer and receives the name of
>another person who has decided to play the game. Once this exchange
>has taken place the objective of the game is to kill the other person
>(before he/she kills you, of course). If you kill the other person you
>get some large sum of money and are protected from the law - the game
>is apparently sanctioned by the powers that be.
>
>  My friend remembers that the hero of the film was a profressional
>participant in the game and had blond hair. He also believed that the
>film opened with a scene at an equestrian meet where a rider (with a
>gun in his hand) clicks together the heels of his boots (given to him
>by his unknown nemesis in the big hunt) and the boots explode.
>
Sounds like a film called "The 10th Victim", Italian made I think, with Ursula
Andress and Marcello Mastroanni (Sp).

-- 
 == Joseph A. Moscatelli                ==
 == Bull HN Information Systems         ==
 == j.moscatelli@granite.ma30.bull.com  == 
 
From: jensk@hpbbrd.bbn.hp.com (Jens Kilian)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 11:10:19 GMT
Subject: Re: Russian movie "Stalker, The Zone" anyone seen it in USA
Organization: HP Mechanical Design Division
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies

The name of the movie is `Stalker'. The director was Andreij Tarkowski (sp?),
and it's based on a story by the Strugazki brothers called `Picnic by the
wayside' (or something similar).

Incidentally, the opening and closing shots show the Tchernobyl power plant
as it was *before* the blowup. Prophetical, considering the state of the
`zone' ...

	Jens.
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From: gdg019@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Ridley McIntyre)
Subject: Re: What's wrong with Alien^3? Nothing!
Organization: Ironpig Arcadia, Coventry, UK
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 09:42:38 GMT

In article <2739@nlsun1.oracle.nl> gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley) writes:
>   However, throughout the film I thought the performances were good. I
>found Brian Glover and Charles Dance more interesting than Ripley! In
>general I think British audiences will enjoy the film more than US ones.
>Firstly British people will see more familiar faces in the cast (Glover,
>Dance, Paul McGann etc); and secondly this film is not a Hollywood
>blockbuster. It is however a film I thought had a "British" feel to it:
>dark, creepy and atmospheric, but very slow to get going.

I was personally counting the amount of British swearing such as Bollocks
and Wanker in the film. I think they both appeared twice, but I couldn't
be sure because of the bloody soundtrack blocking half the dialogue
out.

-- 
		 **Ridley McIntyre - Ronin Ironpig**
		     gdg019@cck.coventry.ac.uk
		 -----------------------------------
		  "Like your new haircut." - Bishop
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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Aliens  ....  does it really matter?
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 02:37:37 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

You miss the point, Peter.  Some of us *enjoy* arguing, and things like
this are fun to argue about.  Nobody here is skipping meals or losing 
sleep over it.

If you don't enjoy the back-and-forth . . . well, that's why god gave us
little green killfiles. 

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
From: hopkins@agora.rain.com (Scott Hopkins)
Subject: Re: The Hitcher
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 05:59:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.025733.10720@eecs.nwu.edu> kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.093107.735@calmasd.prime.com> wwr@calmasd.prime.com writes:
>>The Hitcher -- Rutger Hauer, C.Thomas Howell, Jennifer Jason Leigh - for those
>>	who are tired of thrillers that are just hack & slash, or
>>	"psychological thrillers" (SWF) with no action.  An intelligent
>>	thriller with something of value on several levels.
>
>The Hitcher? The Hitcher? Are you kidding? What was in this film besides hack
>& slash? He picks him up, he gets threatened, he dumps him off. He comes back,
>he gets rid of him again, suprise, he comes back. Repeat five or six times. It
>has been a while since I saw it, but was there anything else to this film? What
>was the value of this film on any level?

	I disagree.  The film did have your typical horror/slasher elements,
but it has something that the rest of those don't - suspense!  I was really
pleased to see a horror movie without stupid one-liners, and generally had
some surprise to it.  The movie twisted and turned all over, generally
giving me the effect of 'what was going to happen next?'.  That can't be
said about a lot of films these days.  The Hitcher wasn't a masterpiece,
but it was a relief to see!
	BTW, what does the Hitcher have to do with sci-fi?	
	
			-Casey Hopkins
		"And off comes the head without spilling
		a single drop of blood.  Now that's what
		I call shomanship Lieutenant!"  - The Exorcist III
		?
From: jtgorman@cs.arizona.edu (J. Taggart Gorman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: PLEASE - No more Alien posts!
Date: 27 Aug 92 06:49:40 GMT
Reply-To: jtgorman@cs.arizona.edu (J. Taggart Gorman)
Organization: Organization?  We don't need no steenking organization!
Discliamer: Upon my being captured or killed, my professors will
            disavow any knowledge of me, my statements, and/or
            my mission.


In article <1992Aug27.013406.6643@mel.dit.csiro.au>,
Citizen gre253@mis.csiro.au (Steven Green) writes :
>AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!

  Wow, when I saw this line, I thought a f'ugger was after him!

|--------------------------------|    "If you were happy all of your life,
|      J. Taggart Gorman Jr.     |     you wouldn't be human - you'd be a
| jtgorman@caslon.cs.arizona.edu |     game show host."
|--------------------------------|             Winona Ryder, in _Heathers_
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From: drwho@omar.WPI.EDU (Eric Ant Von Laudermann)
Subject: Re: Naming Alien 4
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 02:44:27 GMT

In article <66899@hydra.gatech.EDU> ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:
>In article <BtK728.Epy@wpi.WPI.EDU> drwho@wpi.WPI.EDU (Eric Ant Von Laudermann) writes:
>>As a math major, I particularly noticed that although the movie
>>was called ALIEN^3, most people called it ALIEN 3.  Not just out of
>>convenience, mind you: they simply didn't get it.
>
>Well, I'm not a math major, but I do know a liiiitle about math.
>While the poster certainly showed it as ALIEN^3, underneath it said
>something like:
>                   Three times the danger
>                   Three times the suspense
>                   Three times the <somethingelse>.
>
>So while the heading *said* "Alien cubed", them certainly *meant*
>"Alien three" and just thought it would be a funky way to write it.
>
>Please don't insult us and assume that we "just didn't get it".

At the bottom of the poster, where they have the credits in those 
annoying tiny squished letters, it's written as ALIEN^3.  It's written
the same way in Starlog and some other mags.  I didn't mean to sound
like I was saying "I'm smarter than you", and I'm sorry if I
offended.  Now that I look at it, I guess I shouldn't have started my
post like that.  Sorry.

The rest was just me being silly.

(By the way, didn't someone else post a few months ago, before the
movie came out, about why they went with "Cubed" instead of "3" ?)

--E.V.L. (drwho@wpi.wpi.edu)        # 
Disclaimer: "It's all absolutely    # 
devastatingly true, except the bits #
From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Inconsistent science in SF films
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:39:49 GMT
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way

[Various laws of science violations in Total Recall omitted.]

Guys, isn't it obvious what happened?!

They hired Dan Qualye as a consultant.

"Life on Mars, dontcha know..."
-- 
Bill "Whassamatter?!  Can't you take a joke?!" Barnes   wbarnes@sura.net
Disclaimer:  The author apologizes for any thought-provoking material he may
	     have accidentally included and promises not to do it again.
Datclaimer:  My employers wouldn't WANT to share some of my opinions.