From: doug@lpf.umd.edu (does not exist)
Newsgroups: alt.personals
Subject: Re: AP.ADMIN IS AN ASSHOL
Summary: a question, maybe a comment....
Keywords: same as the subject....*smile*  but add stubborn and stupid...
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:54:08 GMT
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In article <1992Jul13.115504.20412@lemuria.sai.com> darryl@lemuria.sai.com (Darryl P. Wagoner) writes:

>In article <13JUL92.05261566@umbc1.umbc.edu> williamf@umbc1.umbc.edu writes:
>>In a previous article, sabg9174@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tolthrye) wrote:
>>>dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>
>>>   possible basis 2: Married people already have a steady
>>>		     relationship, while many single people
>>>		     are still looking for one.  Darryl wants
>>>		     to help the latter, but feels no
>>>		     obligation to help the former, find a
>>>		     friend or lover.
>
>This one hits the nail right on the head.  I could care less about
>married people who need some one to talk to.  (Well that is entirely
>true) But it doesn't have any place in this service.  FWIW I did plea the
>case for married to management, because of the deceit(sp) factor, and
>they said "no".
>

	what about the deceit factors in other posts, or if someone uses
the proper headers, but says something different in their posts, or even
the deceit in your *misleading* faq/how-to post?
	you also said that you would send me a copy of your software.... so
far, nothing....*smile*
	how do you feel about sending me the address (and name) of your
funding people, so that i may contact them directly?  i would like to write
to them and complain about your service, and attitude, and generally make
waves.  i have been encouraged by several others who also would like to have
this information for the same reasons:  you should not be in this 'business'
and you should not be trying to enforce your morality or standards on others,
regardless of how highly you think your ideals are needed:  you should not
be deceiving so many people with your posts and faq/how-to posts:  


>
>>   But why go out of his way to exclude them from the service?  Even to 
>>   find a friend?  I am not married but I assume married people have problems
>>   that they want to talk about with someone not necessarily their spouse. The
>>   ACS has in the past featured ads with precisely that kind of request.
>
>A. It's not out of the way.  B. The charter of the service as defined
>by SAI is a singles service.  It IS NOT AN ANONYMOUS POSTING SERVICE.
>How many times to I have to say that?  It is funny, I kept stating
>our reason for running the service the way we do, but only a very
>few listen.  The rest don't want to be confused by facts.  They are

	just out of curiousity, if this is such a highly moral and open
service, that encourages honesty, *WHY IS IT ANONYMOUS*????  there is where
most of the deceit is coming from, the refusal to stand by what one says, by
putting one *TRUE* name to it.....  you are the most guilty of perpetrating
the dishonesty.  you are allowing people to post anonymously, thereby hiding
their true intent (to whatever degree) and personage behind a *LESS THAN
SECURE* anonimity!!!!  then you have the audacity to claim high morals!  HAH!

>however much more guilt of imposing their morals on me, than I on

	*NO ONE* is imposing their morality on you.  they are saying that as
the administrator of a service of this nature, it is your duty to be at "arm's
length" from the service.  if you cannot change your morals (no one is 
suggesting you should,) then get out of the business.
	and for the ske of everyone's sanity.... don't spread your 'gospel'
to other groups!  you have created enough headaches here!  
	it would seem to me that it would be obvious, *EVEN TO YOU* that there
is a radical problem with you and your service ('you' only as with regard to,
and in the context of the service, NOT you personally), as evidenced by the 
fact that you have created more posts about your service (to be fair, both
pro and con) than any other topic.  this should at least a clue!  why can't 
you see the writing on the wall?  all the other acs services before, put
together, have created so much controversial activity.  perhaps you should
rethink your position.....


>them.  They are trying to force me(SAI) to submit to their moral

	are you now saying you represent sai?  'me(sai)' sounds to me like
you are.....  again, i ask if you will publish or send to me the address of
the parent/funding organization.  i (and several others) would like to contact
them directly, as you seem to be unwilling to comply, or be cooperative.
i believe you should stop your service.  don't take it anywhere else.  give
it up.  get out..... 

>standard. It's not going to happen!

	i suspect that this is going to be a recurring theme with you.
	can i have the software?    > It's not going to happen!
	will you modify your faq/
	how-to posts to reflect the
	facts and truth?           > It's not going to happen!
	will you give me the 
	direct address to the 
	funding organization?     > It's not going to happen!
	etc.                      > It's not going to happen!
	*smile*                   > It's not going to happen!

>-- 
>Darryl Wagoner		darryl@lemuria.sai.com
>12 Oak Hill Road
>Brookline, NH 03033
>Office: 603.672.0736   		

	another opinion, worth what you paid for it!
	as always, i am/at:

	     doug:  <doug@eng.umd.edu> : <doug@lpf.umd.edu>

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