From: sbishop@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: alt.child-support
Subject: Re: Child-Support
Date: 21 Nov 92 19:17:29 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

In article <1992Nov21.202858.10648@ncsu.edu>, jcollin@eos.ncsu.edu (JEFFREY  COLLINS) writes:
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>  The issue of child-support is one that every tax-payer should be concerned
> with. We live within a system that allows most women to cheat,lie and steal

MOST?!  Jeffrey, resorting to hyperbole and insulting the many, many working
women in this country will only get you justifyably flamed.

> from honest tax-payers by failing to help take responsibility for their
> children. We live within a system that bascically says to a women it's
> alright to stay at home and get welfare and just about every other kind 
> of gov't aide, in fact you don't have to work at all,TAX-PAYERS will take care 
> of you and your kids.After all we are a socialist country.The fact that well
> put away fathers who don't help pay (notice i said help)is again a slap in 
> the face of tax-payers.We spend over 20,000 dollars a year on parents who{
> don't pay child-support (mostly men) because they can't afford to take of
> their child and a freeloader,who not only gets money from the father but the
> gov't.We need to stop spending millons of dollars a year on putting people in jail,
> and start addressing the issue of welfare fraud,that cost hard working
> tax-payers hundreds of millions of dollars a year.People need to start becoming
> responsible for their own childern, i don't any case where putting someone in jail
> made them start paying support for his/her kids.That just isn't working,when is it
> going to stop?,when we are spending a billion dollars a year on keeping fathers
> who lost their jobs in jail because the couldn't pay for their child's as well as
> the child's mother's living expenses.The only thing we are doing is creating a cycle
> of spending that is going to catch up to us one day, and cause more problems than
> it really needs to. 

No, I am not in favor of welfare mothers.  Yes, I do know some of them should
be out and working.  But then there's my friend, Jennie, married, three kids,
a husband who is dying of emphysema.  He can't be left alone, she tries to
work part time to augment the medicaid payments (that only cover her husband
and two of the kids) and food stamps and rent assistance they get.  What 
would you do?  Stick the husband into a nursing home which would cost MUCH
more money than the help they get?  Or just shoot him?  Jennie would LOVE
to work to support her family.   And, eventually, when her husband is gone,
she intends to do so.  But right now, she needs all the help she can get,
and more.  Just this last week, she had to come up with new glasses for her
oldest daughter (not covered under Medicaid), and also wisdom teeth surjury
for the same daughter (also not covered).  
Yes, we have a serious problem with welfare women in this country.  We also
have a government that refuses to provide birth control for these women.
Did you know that the list of women who would like to have the Norform
birth control implants is enormous?  But our fundie controlled system
refuses to fund any money for welfare women to get Norform implants, even
though it only costs a mere fraction of the amount it takes to support a
child until it is grown.

Sue
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