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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: HEMP PAPER!
Date: 23 Dec 92 20:16:00 GMT
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From: un040367@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: [anonymous] Theoretical DMT extraction from D. Illoensis
Date: 27 Dec 92 01:37:08 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

In article <1992Dec26.022945.2825@u.washington.edu>, ap.7630@cupid.sai.com (Anonymous) writes:
> 
> Lets say someone followed the following process for extraction,
> and it didn't work, could someone please state why, and where 
> something went wrong, along with brief instructions on how to fix 
> this problem? Thanks
>  
> (1) Milled ~.33 lb dried D. Ill. roots. 

Good move. I'd use a bit more myself - on the order of a kilo for
a decent sized batch, taking into account all the losses along
the way an amateur is likely to have. Also, if you can separate 
the "root bark" from the "root" , the former has the higher DMT
percentage by far.
>  
> (2) Soaked root fibers in non-polar solvent at room temp for 2 hours.

Probably a bad move. DMT is soluble in non-polar and semi-polar
solvents, e.g. chloroform, and methanol. I'd go straight for the
methanol (or ethanol if you can't get methanol) from the first.
>  
> (3) Drained. Then soaked in polar solvent for 4 hours at room temp.
>  
If you're soaking things at room temperature, I'd suggest both
long soaking times (up to a week)  and especially multiple
extractions - at least two, three is best.

> (4) Drained off polar solvent, then evaporated it.
>  
Good move. The thing is - this is only the first stage to
producing pure alkaloids. What you have to do now is an
acid base extraction:

Dissolve the residue in dilute hydrochloric (or other) acid.
Filter.
Basify with sodium hydroxide.
  (this is a bit tricky with the pH - you may have to fiddle around
quite a bit until you can get it to an optimum consistancy for
the next stage, depending on the amount of gunk still in there)
Extract three times with non-polar solvent (ether is great
but dangerous, chloroform is good, dichloromethane is ok, etc)
Combine non-polar extracts 
Backwash with salty basic water to remove any last gunk.
Evaporate and leave on a dish to dry and crystallise.
Smoke and enjoy.
>  
> What should be done? Do again with heat added to solvents? 
> 
Heat will speed up and make more effective the initial extraction.
What you have outlined is a satisfactory method for concentrating 
LSA from HBMG/HBWR or psiloc(yb)in from Psilocybe, but is not
good for more non-polar alkaloids, and especially for DMT which has
to be very pure in order to appreciate its full effects when smoked.

If you want further details, I have files explaining the procedure
in more detail. Mail me at jeremy@rsc3.anu.edu.au
(but don't send to the address of this post).

Jeremy
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: curious@somewhere (Curious Furious)
Subject: DMT Questions
Reply-To: curious@somewhere
Organization: NONE
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:20:54 GMT


Hi knowledgeable folks,
	I have a few questions from a FOAF:

1) When smoking DMT what is the LD50 ? Can it cause a heart attack?

2) Has anyone tried doing DMT while on MDMA ? Any complications ?

3) Has anyone tried doing DMT while on 'rooms? Any complications ?

4) In the book _Archaic Revival_, Terence McKenna mentions some studies
   that found that DMT is produced heavily while in the deepest stages
   of sleep. Anybody have a reference for that?

5) Since DMT is a naturally occurring substance in the human body,
   if a machine was created which could extract DMT from your own
   blood, would that machine be considered illegal?

6) Can any MAOI be used to render DMT active orally?

 
thank you for your time.


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From: nick@gepard.msk.su (Ovcharenko Nickolay Yurievich)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: BEE VENOM:Who might need it in pharmacology?
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 20:27:01 +0200
Distribution: world
Organization: GEPARD, Ltd
Reply-To: nick@gepard.msk.su

Dear gentlemen!
Here in Russia we are going to produce bee venom. Would you help us in finding
medical or pharmacological centers interested in long-time cooperation. If
scientists or other specialists will contact with us, it will be great.
     Sincerely  Nickolay Ovcharenko
     nick@gepard.msk.su
     fax (095)-135-70-30


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From: nobody@cupid.sai.com (Anonymous)
Subject: [anonymous] yet another damn test 
Originator: lamontg@hardy.u.washington.edu
Keywords: anonymous
Reply-To: nobody@cupid.sai.com
Organization: Somewhere
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 01:31:59 GMT


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From: brrian04@uctvax.uct.ac.za
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Cats and LSD
Date: 30 Dec 92 02:06:44 +0200
Organization: University of Cape Town

As far as I know wild animals (cats included) eat hallucinogenic plants on
purpose.  Can anyone confirm or refute this?
We have one cat that has always behaved very strangely (even for a cat), ever
since it was born;  whenever it sees someone unrapping blotter acid it comes
rushing over, jumps onto to the counter or chair and tries to lick it (it
doesn't do this with anything else).  One of its many strange characteristics!
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: Behavior on Acid
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 17:30:48 GMT

In <BzM4xC.330@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> @symphony.cc.purdue.edu (null pointer) writes:
>	Question:
>Is this guy
>	a) against acid and posting a severe misinterpretaion of a fairly
>normal stong acid trip
>	_OR_
>	b) all for acid and being sarcastic about the idea of these things
>being "BAD"?

I think it's
	c) pointing out that claims that "you can act normal on acid" are
probably being overstated.

	Having had a similar (but not quite so intense) experience myself,
I'd agree.  Up to a certain point you can act normal, but beyond that,
there is no way you can hold yourself down to "normal" reality.  That
point probably has as much to do with set etc. as it does with dosage.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
         We are obviously very close to reproducing the Muslim paradise
                   where every orgasm lasts six hundred years
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From: doctor1@cbnewse.cb.att.com (patrick.b.hailey)
Subject: Re: UL: Monumental LSD overdose taken (was: Re: Brands of LSD)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 06:59:23 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.230507.15190@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu> bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church) writes:
>... in the 70's a lot of PCP was marketed as THC. It wasn't sold as
>something a mj enjoyer would want but as some really nasty shit that only
>the desperate and deranged could enjoy. 

Yup, I remember the stuff from around '75-'77.  Pronounced 'tic'.  We knew
it was PCP.  Looked kind of like a tiny piece of somewhat dried out silly
putty.

   Thanks awfully,
              Patrick
From: ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: AMSTERDAM !!!  please help
Date: 22 Dec 92 10:49:05 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <102901@netnews.upenn.edu>, cappiell@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Steven Cappiello) writes:
> 
> A few friends are planning a trip to Amsterdam !!
> Here are a few questions...
> 
> 1.  Is just after the new year day a good or bad time to go?
> 	as far as 
> 			a.  hotel availability

There are hundreds of small hotels in Amsterdam. Even at the height
of Summer you can usually find a room  within 15 minutes walk
of the train station. Ignore the agents trying to palm you off
with an out of centre caravan unless you are really stuck.

> 			b.  drug availability/ prices

Don't think this varies much with season -- but I'm no expert.

> 
> 2.  What are the *average* prices in the coffee shops for primo hash/weed?

They tend to have menus in the coffee shops at presumably tourist prices.
From all accounts it's far more expensive than it used to be since the
government started supplying it to the shops. No more than typical for
the rest of Europe though I think.

> 
> 	What's the best place(s) for college students to go?

Anywhere really. The Hard Rock Cafe, Amsterdam?, McDonalds? (Would you
like some Marijuana with your Big Mac sir...). Everyone speaks English.

> 
> 3.  Are hard drugs easy, hard, risky  to get?
> 	(Ectasy, Shrooms, Acid)
> 	and can you get them in any of the coffee shops?

Certainly not in the big name ones that would like to stay open... But
at night almost every second person on the street will offer you this.

> 
> 4.  Which hard drugs are most widely available?

Never motivated to find out.

> 6.  What are the penalties in Amsterdam for purchase/possession of various
> 	drugs??

Cannabis effectively nil. Your mileage may vary on the rest.
-- 
Alan Greig                            Janet: Alan@UK.AC.DUNDEE-TECH
Dundee Institute of Technology	   Internet: Alan@DCT.AC.UK
Tel: (0382) 308810                 Int: +44 382 308810
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From: an1327@anon.penet.fi
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Active THC vs. tempurature
Date: 27 Dec 92 09:29:40 GMT
Organization: Anonymous contact service
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I have heard that if Marijuana is stored in a low tempurature
environment, that the inactive THC is transformed into active
THC, thus making the weed more potent.  Is there any truth to
this?  I tried it and it seems to have some effect on potency
of the weed.  Thanks.

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From: pjm@isis.cshl.org (Pat Monardo)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Brain Damage from LSD (Pink Floyd's Drummer)
Date: 22 Dec 92 16:23:33 GMT
Organization: Cold Spring Harbor Labs

In article <26T6VB1w164w@raley.Gwinnett.COM> pertinax@raley.Gwinnett.COM (Pertinax) writes:
>I've read some of the earlier posts about the apocryphal LSD "vegetable" and
>was wondering about the case I always hear about:  the drummer from Pink 
>Floyd.  I don't know his name, or much about him- but the rumors I've heard
>for years claim that he took to much LSD, and now lives with his mother and
>can't remember being in the band.  Is there any truth to this at all, or is it
>a classic UL?  Please don't flame me over this, as I have no personal 
>knowledge of LSD's long term effects, if any.

the last blurb i heard about him was that he was into race
care driving. of course, he could be playing with electric
racecars in his mother's house, but since the news report
was of a partner of his getting killed, i don't think so.
-- 
-- Pat Monardo
-- pjm@cshl.org
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Sunday, 3 Jan 1993 15:59:15 CST
From: <U37460@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: CBS 48 hours on LSD ;)

To anyone interested:
CBS's 48 Hours will have a show on LSD use among the college aged crowd
this Wednesday I believe.  So if you're interested in the current mentality
of the mass media concerning LSD, I suggest you watch.  I know I will be
watching.
Ethan Haslett
4th year Computer Engineering undergrad
University of Illinois at Chicago
u37460@uicvm.uic.edu
From: darinf@scarla.UUCP (Darin Fisher)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: WOD Advertisement I saw on TV - i.e. LAME
Distribution: world
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 06:56:29 GMT
Organization: Scarla Development
Reply-To: darinf@scarla.UUCP

 > >>
 > >>If you are "a little stupid about remembering your values..." while under
 > >>the influence of a substance then you should 1) learn to be more 
 > >>responsible about becoming intoxicated or 2) re-evaluate your values.
 > 
 > (excellent advice)
 > > 
 > > No kidding.  I wonder if his tone would have been so cautious and
 > > mysterious if he'd been talking about alcohol.  No drug makes you do
 > > something you don't want to do.  If she wanted to have sex with the guy
 > > while high then it probably crossed her mind more than once to have sex
 > > with him sober, even if she had no intention of ever acting on that
 > > ...

 > Having experimented with drugs which temporarily completely re-wire
 > consciousness, perception and logic, I see no reason why one
 > might not commit an act while intoxicated that one would have
 > absolutely no desire to commit when straight. The intoxication
 > would have to be extreme, and I think such acts would be rare,
 > but the possibility certainly exists. Under such circumstances,
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 > point one above is applicable; e.g. it may be necessary to arrange
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 > for a straight minder in advance. 
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 > 
 Now this is an excellant example of responibility when altering/expanding 
 ones reality tunnel.

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From: curt@access.digex.com (curt williams)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Drug dog
Date: 3 Jan 1993 23:01:09 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

>Our school recently decided that we will have a drug dog.  Supposedly,
>it can smell just about anything, no matter how much you cover it up.

One of the things a drug dogs smells best is film.  And every time it
false alerts, it hurts its credibility just a little bit more......
and who knows, with enough complaints (and law suits?) brought about
by false alerts, this drug dog could become a serious liability to
the schools administration.

Get the message?
From: pertinax@raley.Gwinnett.COM (Pertinax)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Brain Damage from LSD (Pink Floyd's Drummer)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 20:33:12 EST

I've read some of the earlier posts about the apocryphal LSD "vegetable" and
was wondering about the case I always hear about:  the drummer from Pink 
Floyd.  I don't know his name, or much about him- but the rumors I've heard
for years claim that he took to much LSD, and now lives with his mother and
can't remember being in the band.  Is there any truth to this at all, or is it
a classic UL?  Please don't flame me over this, as I have no personal 
knowledge of LSD's long term effects, if any.
From: ppennane@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Petrus Pennanen)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: LSD and alcoholism
Date: 27 Dec 92 14:59:15 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <jah.725414961@mits> jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen) writes:
>   Yes, they MIGHT. However, Petrus was IMHO exaggerating the benefits of LSD
>in treatment of alcoholism. And the fact that administering psychedelics can
>make matters worse for some simply cannot be overly stressed.

Just where was I exaggerating? I said

>With a good setting and positive expectations some of those alcoholics
>should get a plus-four or a near plus-four magical experience if given a
>large dose of acid, which would make them enjoy life and stop drinking.

Please note the word "some" and try to read less between the lines.
I don't think that every +4 experience makes the tripper enjoy life
more afterwards but the vast majority of them do.

With good preparation (well-informed tripper, friendly environment etc), a 
skillfull guide the tripper knows and likes, and medication to stop the trip if
necessary bad trips have been minimized in many psychedelic therapy experiments.

Petrus
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From: dart@fugue.cc.purdue.edu (Dartanyan)
Subject: Re: LSD and alcoholics posting on usenet
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 14:03:08 GMT

	As far as all of this goes, lets venture into hypothetical-land.

	IF as muffavore and supporters believe, psychedelics, if used, would
merely lead to a "replacement habit" (I refuse to use the word addiction in
conjunction with LSD or MDMA) and as such, does not remove a habit, but merely
replaces the chemical used as part of the habit, then I would STILL be all
for its use because of one simple point:

	Alcohol is a depressant.  It triggers behavior patterns that can lead
to negativity and sometimes even violence.  It severely impairs rection and
rationality, and inhibits functional communication in large doses.

	LSD is a psychedelic.  MDMA is an entactogen.  Both trigger bahavior
patterns that can lead to self-imprinting and sometimes even what would be
called "enlightenment".  The latter stages of acid trips and (though i have not
used MDMA yet) from what i have heard ALL of an X trip lead to a state of mental
peace and a desire for peace, love, and free communication.  They both have a
stimulant effect to some extent, which increases reaction (though driving 
while tripping is still stupid as you may just react to a hallucination or
stop paying attention to what you are doing entirely at higher doses) and
acid does tend to impair attention-spans.

	Alcohol can have its uses: the relaxatin of inhibitions can do won-
ders for overcoming artistic "blocks" (ie, writers block, etc)  Unfortunately,
so can LSD ( I don't know about MDMA), making that not a unique validation.

	IN a nutshell:
	Tripping: the universe ceases to exist behind you until you remember
that it was there and look there.  Man, that was wierd.  You ever wonder if
... shit your face did something really wierd.  Your teeth look big.  It's
like, astral space.  Neat. Quiet or those guys will know were tripping.

	Drunk: the universe ceases to exist.  or maybe it does.  who cares.
the floor is a very safe place to be.  Gimme another fuckin' beer.  No I 
HAVEN'T had enough.  Fuck you man. I'm FUCKING DRUNK FUCK YOU.
--
Sometimes you can feel the fish
And then it slips away
Things aren't always what they seem
In North Hawaii
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: dart@fugue.cc.purdue.edu (Dartanyan)
Subject: Re: Brain Damage from LSD (Pink Floyd's Drummer)
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 12:38:09 GMT

In article <28DEC199206055860@utarlg.uta.edu> R writes:
>Adding grist to the rumor mill, I have heard from various sources that 
>Syd is indeed an acid casualty, and having recently acquired the cd 
>" Barrett ", Capitol, 1990, I have to say that I firmly believe it to be
>true. You just have to listen to the cd closely to confirm it. It's so
>completely nonsensical. The lyrics are obviously the product of a VERY
>permamently psychodelicized individual. Furthermore, it sounds just like
>the products PF put out while he was a member. I am mildly amused to find that 
>David Gilmour (who replaced Syd as guitarist/vocalist) and Nick Wright co-
>produced and played on this cd. I can only surmise that the guys still keep in 
>touch with Syd, for whatever reason, so he's obviously not a complete basket-
>case. However that may be, one good listen to this cd is all it takes to
>realize that old Syd is not really ever going to recover. 
>I just had to put it on since I was thinking about it.
>
	Have you considered the possibility that he merely wrote the lyrics
to the album while _on_ acid?

	Have you ever heard/communicated/talked to Syd in a normal situation?
From what I heard, he had some definite psychological problems, probably a
chamical imbalance, but that imbalance had Nothing to do with LSD being one
of the chamicals, except perhaps for about 24 or so hours a week.

	Of course he did acid, but from all i have read about the band, no 
more than any of the rest of PF's members.

	Or maybe, just maybe, his personality is such that he LIKES  writing
weird shit....  I have heard (and I may be wrong but..) They Might be Giants
actually has an anti-drug stance.  They write weird shit.

	One listen to the CD is all it takes to realize that old Syd is never
going torecover, eh.  Yeah.




					Sean
--
Sometimes you can feel the fish
And then it slips away
Things aren't always what they seem
In North Hawaii
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