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From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: re: computer terminology in Greek
Date: 5 Nov 1992 06:59:40 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

rizos@cs.man.ac.uk (Rizos Sakellariou) writes:

> An anaferesai stin anaptyksi logismikoy se xwres me xamilo kostos ergasias,
> tote diafwnw oti emeis xreiazetai na kanoyme kati analogo. Kati tetoio 
> einai h  paroxi ftinoy ergatikoy dynamikoy se xwres me ypsilo kosto ergasias.

Oxi aparaithta me xamhlo kostos; Oi Souhdoi, Finlandoi, kai loipoi den
douleuoun gia psixala. Kai omws ftiaxnoun kai 'gamw to software'.

> Nomizw oti ayto poy leipei apo tin Ellada einai mia kentriki stratigiki 
> me basi tin opoia tha ylopoihthoyn megala erga Pliroforikis. H apousia mias 
> tetoias stratigikis kollaei isws stis adynamies toy dimosioy tomea. Sto 
> na baloyme ena PC sto farmakeio h' sto video-club tis geitonias pame kala, 
> isws kalytera apo kathe alli xwra. Ti ginetai omws me tin Pliroforiki stis
> dimosies ypiresies, epixeiriseis koinis wfeleias, klp. ekei poy pragmatika
> yparxei anagki;  

To megalo mou oneiro... Na mporesw na parw (oxi egw alla kapoios),
foithtiko synalagma xwris xartodouleia: Diabathrio, eksetaseis
agglikwn (kanoun akoma?), anabolh stratou, poiniko mhtrww, forologiko
mhtrww (record re!), etc. 

> Ma Spyro, den milame gia tin metafrasi olis tis orologias sta Ellinika.
> Omws, opws fanhke kai apo prohgoymena postings, ena poly megalo pososto
> mporei na apodothei ikanopoihtika. To kerdos tis Ellinikis apodosis einai
> oti bohtha sto na ginei pio prositi h Pliroforiki ston kosmo. Ayto 
> bebaia den apokleiei tin synyparksh merikes fores kai tis Agglikis orologias.

Alla mhn ksexnas oti polloi / polles exoun spoudasei sto ekswteriko
kai ola ta manuals klp einai sta Agglika. Den pistevw oti h metatrwph
ths orologias gia kapoion pou spoudase se ksenh glwssa sta Ellhnika
einai eukolh xwris kathe allh leksh na einai 'pws to lene auto re?'. 

"Wild" manuals, i.e. PL/1 den xreiazontai metafrash. Alla ti ginetai
otan pesoun sto idio project agglomatheis kai mh agglomateis kai ola
ta manual sta Agglika? (I have a good story on this but don't want
to post it :-), the participants are on the net)

> >Kai ena allo epixeirhma. Polles episthmes xrhsimopoioun Ellhnikh orologia
> >(p.x. Iatrikh, Zwologia, etc) sta Agglika. An oi Aggloi kai oi Amerikanoi
> >xrhsimopoioun dikes mas lekseis stis episthmes tous emeis giati den 
> >xrhsimopoioume dikes tous stis dikes mas?

> Kaneis den to arneitai an ginetai me metro kai opoy den mporoyn na apodothoyn
> oi antistoixoi agglikoi oroi. Arketes ksenikes lekseis exoyn afomoiwthei apo 
> tin Elliniki glwssa kai den yparxei tipota to asximo sto na prostesei 
> pliroforiki kai alles. Oxi omws stin alogisti xrisi twn Agglikwn leksewn 
> ekei poy mporoyn na brethoyn isodynames ellinikes apodoseis (kai apo ta 
> paradeigmata poy exoyn anaferthei mporoyn na yparksoyn kales apodoseis sth 
> syntriptiki pleiopsifia twn orwn).

An oloi symfwnhsoun kati ginetai... 

Spiros

Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.yugoslavia
From: filippou@cs.mcgill.ca (Dimitrios FILIPPOU)
Subject: Fake addresses? (was: Re: That they either fled...) 
Organization: SOCS - McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:09:53 GMT

In article <9211062055@zuma.UUCP> sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) writes:

>
>  Athens-Auschwitz (by Errikos Sevillias), Translated and Introduced by
>  Nikos Stavroulakis, Lycabettus Press (P.O. Box 17091, 100 24 Athens),
>  Greece (1983).                                        ~~~~~~
>                                                         ^
                                                          |
          ------------------------------------------------+

You'd better check your refs. Mr. Mutlu/Argic/whoever...
The minimum greek postal code no. starts with an 104 00
So, is this a real address, or what?

(Hell, why do I bother? This(-se) guy(-s) is(are) pathetic...)

Dimitrios Filippou
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
From: gd8f@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Gregory  Dandulakis)
Subject: Re: computer terminology in Greek
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:37:30 GMT

In article <schoinas.721606274@cs.wisc.edu> schoinas@fox.cs.wisc.edu (Yannis Schoinas) writes:

 As kanw mia prospatheia na proteinw orous mias pou o Giannhs prokalei :-):

>monitor (oxi h ouonh:-)           Biglatoras  (krhtikh leksh, ellhnikh den
>path expressions                               kserw...:-))
>conditional critical regions
>critical sections
>CSP(communicating sequential processes)
>RPC(remote procedure call)
>capability                        Ikanothta
>benchmark                         bench=pagkos (xhmeia)
>log-structured filesystem
>pipeline
>scalar                            Bathmwto (se antithesh dianusmatiko)
>aggregate                         Susswmatwma (xhmeia)
>record
>debugger
>GIF
>privacy
>authentication
>swapping                         Mpainobgazw
>replication                      Anasundiasmos (Biologia: tou DNA...)
>key                              Kleidi, plhktro
>lock
>token                            Marka
>
>
>						Xairetv,
>						Giannis


Kai egw,

Gr
From: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: STOXOS N DIATNRNCN TNS C
Date: 7 Nov 92 18:35:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-8298v.32bis
Reply-To: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 


Serafim Efstratiadis writes:
>Twra av qes va cou upoctnrijw to diko mou cuctnma grafns, euxarictws.
>A a: teleio
>B b: teleio


 H anagkh gia mia koinh antistixia einai adiamfhsbhthth. Proswpika
protimw to

ABGDEZHQIKLMNJOPRSTYFXCW
abgdezhqiklmnjoprstyfxcw

Katarxhn einai 90% symbato me to 'epishmo' ellhniko plhktrologio (ektos
toy W=Wmega (anti V) kai Q=Qhta (anti U). Shmfwnei de kai me thn dikh
soy protash, ektos twn Ypsilon kai Ci (Ksi). Xrhsimopointas to Y san ci
mperdeyetai kaneis me to ypsilon.

Osoi apo sas exete oqones VGA, mporw na sas steilw UUENCODED ena
programma poy allazei toys xarakthres ths oqonhs na antistixoyn me toys
parapanw. Problhma paramenei to sigma, to opoio einai panta
teliko. Fysika to programma den exei ajia an den xrhshmopoioyme oloi
toys idioys xarakthres.


Mixalhs.
                                                                                       
Xref: sparky soc.culture.greek:10375 sci.archaeology:2734 alt.mythology:2030
From: rizos@cs.man.ac.uk (Rizos Sakellariou)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Re: computer terminology in Greek
Date: 7 Nov 92 19:34:24 GMT

c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) writes:

>rizos@cs.man.ac.uk (Rizos Sakellariou) writes:
>> An anaferesai stin anaptyksi logismikoy se xwres me xamilo kostos ergasias,
>> tote diafwnw oti emeis xreiazetai na kanoyme kati analogo. Kati tetoio 
>> einai h  paroxi ftinoy ergatikoy dynamikoy se xwres me ypsilo kosto ergasias.
>Oxi aparaithta me xamhlo kostos; Oi Souhdoi, Finlandoi, kai loipoi den
>douleuoun gia psixala. Kai omws ftiaxnoun kai 'gamw to software'.

Yparxei to paradeima ths Computer Logic, h opoia apo xronia kanei eksagwges
logismikoy sth Gallia kai ta paketa ths briskontai stis prwtes theseis se
pwlhseis (sth Gallia). Eksagwges paketwn exw thn entypwsh oti kanoyn kai h 
Unisoft kai h Singular, xwris na eimai apolyta sigoyros, enw arithmos (~10??)
Ellhnikwn oikwn anaptykshs logismikoy (software houses -- wraia apodosh, den 
briskeis;) symmetexoyn se programmata ths EOK (px. ESPRIT). H Intrasoft epishs 
exei anaptyksei eksagwgikh drasthriothta (bl. Lotto). De nomizw oti h Ellada 
exei elleipsh texnikwn poy tha anaptyksoyn logismiko. Tetoioi yparxoyn arketoi 
kai ikanoi, kai sigoyra den ameibontai ploysioparoxa...


>> Nomizw oti ayto poy leipei apo tin Ellada einai mia kentriki stratigiki 
>> me basi tin opoia tha ylopoihthoyn megala erga Pliroforikis. H apousia mias 
>> tetoias stratigikis kollaei isws stis adynamies toy dimosioy tomea. Sto 
>> na baloyme ena PC sto farmakeio h' sto video-club tis geitonias pame kala, 
>> isws kalytera apo kathe alli xwra. Ti ginetai omws me tin Pliroforiki stis
>> dimosies ypiresies, epixeiriseis koinis wfeleias, klp. ekei poy pragmatika
>> yparxei anagki;  
>To megalo mou oneiro... Na mporesw na parw (oxi egw alla kapoios),
>foithtiko synalagma xwris xartodouleia: Diabathrio, eksetaseis
>agglikwn (kanoun akoma?), anabolh stratou, poiniko mhtrww, forologiko
>mhtrww (record re!), etc. 

Ap'oti thymamai: Diabathrio = 2 hmeres kai xwris H/Y, anabolh stratoy = kai 
ypologistes na baloyn pali tha se talaipwroyn, poiniko mhtrwo = 1 hmera pali
xwris H/Y, efories =  ypotithetai oti yparxei hdh se ekseliksh sxedio 
mhxanografhshs olwn twn eforiwn ===> Ara pame kala kai xwris H/Y...(!!!) 

To erwthma einai: gia na proxwrhsei h mhxanografhsh se oloys aytoys toys
tomeis, ti xreiazomaste; Texnikoys h' epitelika stelexh poy tha baloyn to
maxairi sth plhgh; Pisteyw, to deytero. Kai ekei einai poy xwlainoyme san xwra.
Oi logoi einai ligo-poly gnwstoi...
From: gavrila@imhfhp16.epfl.ch (Spyros Gavrilakis)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Stradivarius
Date: 10 Nov 92 11:04:49 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne



This story surfaced at the beginning of last week. The article below
was taken from the IHT of last Sat.

sg

-----------------

Title : Greek Police, Seeking Drugs, Find a Violin.

FILIATES, Greece - Greek police hunting for illegal drugs in this
border village may have found a musical treasure instead - an 18th
century violin.

The instrument, in an old leather case, appeared in good condition
and bore the inscription "Antonius Stradivarius 1721," a police
spokesman said. It was being sent to the culture ministry in Athens
for authentication. Stradivarius, an Italian craftsman who lived from
1644 to 1737, produced about 1000 violins.

The violin was found in a home being searched for drugs in this village
near the Albanian border. The owner of the house said he bought the
violin and two icons from Albanian refugees.

Filiates is a main entry point for Albanians who have fled by foot
since the country's Stalinist goverment crumbled last year.
There have been reports of numerous artistic and cultural treasures
being smuggled out by Albanians.

--EOA--

Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
From: filippou@cs.mcgill.ca (Dimitrios FILIPPOU)
Subject: Re: computer terminology in Greek
Organization: SOCS - McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 19:13:08 GMT

In article <9211052056.AA11775@kocrsw06.delcoelect.com> c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) writes:
>filippou@cs.mcgill.ca (Dimitrios FILIPPOU) writes:
>> >	English			Greek
>> >	-------------------	-------------------
>> >	Editor                  EKDOTIS KEIMENOU
>> >	Font                    GRAMMATOSEIRA
>> >	Desktop Publishing      O KASES 'i TO FTIAXIMO TOY KASE
>> 
>> Oi oroi aftoi hrisimopoiountai apo tous ellines tipografous
>> Tous gnwrizw apo proswpiki empeiria stin ekdosi epistimonikou periodikou
>> stin Ellada (douleva ws diorthwtis otan imouna proptihiakos foititis sto
>> E.M.P. :-))
> 
>Dhladh an o pateras mou einai typografos kserw thn orologia, alliws
>thn kaname apo koupes. 

Ki omws, tha mporousame oloi emeis pou psahnoume na vroume neous el-
linikous orous gia tin epistimi tis Pliroforikis na daneistoume idi 
iparhontes orous apo allous tomeis.  P.h., osoi asholountai me tin 
Epexergasia Keimenou kai tin Ilektroniki Stoiheiothesia (p.h., WP, nroff, 
TeX, k.lp.), mporoun na hrisimopoiisoun aneta to lexilogio twn ellinwn
tipografwn.  Paromoia, osoi asholountai me Metafores Dedomenwn, Epikoinwnia
Mihanwn, k.lp. daneizontai to lexilogio twn ilektrologwn mihanikwn, osoi
asholontai me Arithmitiki Analisi daneizontai to lexilogio twn mathimati-
kwn, k.o.k.

>H idea tou FONT san Grammatoseira einai lathos. To parakatw einai
>gramatoseira: anciuynunlqsuiodioliwqjhldoih. Auto einai font: 9x15b.

Nomizw pws o pliris oros einai <<tipografiki grammatoseira>>.  Omws
ehei epikratisei na legetai apla grammatoseira kai, proswpika, to 
vriskw kalo.  Allwste posoi kai posoi agglikoi oroi tis Pliroforikis
apodidoun swsta to no.i.ma tous s'enan agglofwno mi-shetiko me tous
ipologistes;

>Dhmhtrh, to vasiko provlhma pou exw einai oti ta Ellhnika einai poly
>polyplokh glwssa me thn opoia thelei megalh prosoxh gia na ekfrasteis
>un-ambiguously. (:-)). 

S'opoiadipote glwssa ki an ekfrasteis, diatreheis panta ton kindino
na eisai asafis ki akatalavistikos.  To pws tha ekfrasteis swsta einai
PROSWPIKI TEHNI ki apaitei PAIDEIA.  Den einai provlima tis ellinikis
glwssas 'i twn ellinofwnwn...

>Epishs einai kai (prwsopiko) thema sunhteias.

Etsi akrivws!  (Na leme, loipon, ta sika sika... :-))

O <<ametano.i.tos>> ki <<asighwritos>> eggonos sou,

Dimitris
Xref: sparky soc.culture.greek:10446 soc.culture.yugoslavia:9452
From: rika@informix.com (Rika Tsitsinia)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Re: Macedonian Recognition after US elections.
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:04:03 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Nov10.050446.23853@walter.bellcore.com> ddc@nyquist.bellcore.com (Daniel Chukurov 21324) writes:
>
>	My dear Rika,

	Georgios. I use Rika's account.

>	you are a very naive person if you think that a FRIENDLY and
>	MULTI-ETHNIC state of VARDARIA or whatever you want to call it
>	CAN survive.
>	It is only a matter of time, a short time before this so-called
>	country explodes from within. There are many reasons for that, the
>	most abvious one is separatist feelings of Albanians.
>	Do you really want such an unstable contraption to the north of
>	your country?

	I understand that such an experiment -a multi-ethnic country-
    has not survived in the Balkans or (with 2-3 exceptions) even
    in Europe. We have many _recent_ failures like the break up of
    Soviet Union, Yugoslavia and Chechoslovakia that would give
    Vardaria few chances to buck the trend.

	Yet, I believe that there is the possibility for this
    country to get over the first few years. It will take some
    economic help from Greece and EC and some threats from Greece
    towards Albania to stay put or else we will raise a separatist
    move inside its borders.

    	I believe that most countries will come to grips with the
    fact that a multi-ethnic society does not mean a weak society.
    Especially as economic progress and prosperity will dominate
    over ethnic origin and religion.

>	You see Rika, we are not politians (the demagogs), we can
>	say what we think whithout worrying of political consencvencies.
>	We can speek our mind and hope that other people will see the 
>	reasons for our thoughts. I also can understand your demagoguery,
>	but to much of it is a bit overdoing it.
>
	
	I speak my mind, too. And I will resist Greece "profiting"
    from such bargaining. I believe that Greece has the most to profit
    from a _whole_, small country to its north. It will be our best
    ally, its economy depends heavily on Greece, greek companies will
    have an advantage over the non-existent other balkan companies and
    its market will quickly become an extension of the greek market.
    Inversely, the other neighbours of Greece (Bulgaria, Albania) do
    not get bigger (bigger markets, more powerful) and Greece can
    continue being the dominant player in the area.

	Greece has a lot to lose for that 10% of land and foreign
    people who don't want to be Greek citizens. If Vardaria does not
    split, Greece in effect gets the whole 100% of the best part
    (the market) without the trouble.

	By splitting Vardaria up, Greece would lose, Bulgaria would
    win. I have nothing against Bulgaria winning, I have a lot against
    Greece losing. Actually, in the worst case scenario of Vardaria
    splitting up, I would make the bargain to give the "greek" 10%
    to Albania in exchange for equal amount southern Albania, which
    is mostly greek.

>Regards, DDC.


	Georgios
From: santas@inf.ethz.ch (Philip Santas)
Subject: Re: computer terminology in Greek
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 11:04:14 GMT


In article <schoinas.721334149@cs.wisc.edu> schoinas@fox.cs.wisc.edu (Yannis Schoinas) writes:
>santas@inf.ethz.ch (Philip Santas) writes:
>
>>Compiler = Metaglwtisths
>>Interpreter = Metafrasths.
>
>Oxi, den einai etsi. Oi metafraseis poy eixame htan:
>Compiler = Metafrasths
>Interpreter = Diermhneyths

Syggvwmn, alla to Diermnveuths eivai margaritari.
Poios "egkefalos" to epivonse? To Diermnveas 6ev tou ekave
sto katw katw tns grafhs?
(mou 8umise to koufo: "Astyvomia Polewv", to opoio bebaia
e3aleif8nke me tn paro6o tou xrovou...)

>Phres mia idea ths sygxyshs gia thn opoia milav.

To oti merikoi asxetoi kavouv tou kefaliou tous, eivai to
movo pou 6nmiourgei sygxnsn. As apofasisouv telika se mia
_swsth_ orologia, kai as stamathsouv tis kotsaves: Swsta ellnvika
vai, mparmpoutsala oxi.

>>> com.pile vt  \k*m-'pi(*)l\
>>>      1 : to collect into a volume
>>>      2 : to compose out of materials from other documents
>
>>Kai pou faivetai o _akribhs_ orismos estw tou "Compile C" apo tov parapavw
>>_geviko_ orismo?
>
>Den katalaba ti ennoeis. An ennoeis ti moy deixnei h frash "compile C"
>apo thn frash "metaglvtisa/metafrasa C" einai akribvs ayto poy lev.
>Uymhsoy ta header files kaneis include se ena C source file. Alla
>uymhsoy kai thn epanaxrhsimopoihsh kvdika kauvs kobeis kai rabeis
>palia soy programmata gia na ftiajeis to kainoyrio.

Otav kaveis CC anExample.c 6ev kaveis movo kopsimo kai rapsimo,
alla kai _metaglwtizeis_ to olo "koustoumaki". Pou faivetai auto
stov orismo tou Compile?

>Alhueia, pvs metafrazeis to "multimedia"?

Alh8eia, poios eivai o akribhs _orismos_ tou Multimedia?
H tou Hypermedia? O ka8evas exei tn 6ikia tou apopsn gia to 8ema.

Apo tnv alln exw akousei kai arketes koufes metafores orwv
sta ellnvika opws:

Object Oriented Programming: "Avtikeimevostrofos Programmatismos" !!!
 (ti lete re pai6ia? To _aplo_, _eukolokatavonto_ kai realistiko
  "Programmatismos me Avtikeimeva" 6ev to skefthkate?)

Interface: "Ev6wmetwpi6a". !!! kai pali !!!
  To "Programma Diaproswpias", (afou suvh8ws inter+something -> 6ia+kati)
  h estw "Programma Epikoivwvias", h kai stnv xeirotern twv periptwsewv
  "Ev6iameso Programma" 6ev sas kavei?
  Interface _6ev_ eivai InTheFace :-)

Movo eav ypar3ei _realistikh_ kai _bath_ metafrasn, 8a exoume kai metafora
tns syvtrnptikhs pleiopshefeias twv orwv sta ellnvika. Alliws, 8a milame
blaxo-egglivika opws:
 kompilarise auto to programma.
 biase to file. 
 programmatizw avtikeimevostrofika me klaseis (kai me 6iplo 6iaforiko, 
   trabaei stnv avnfora, klp :-)
 Pws Ev6wmetwpizeis?

kai alles ares-mares-koukouvares...

Xairetw, Filippos



Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.jewish
From: jgoldber@todah.chem.utoronto.ca (Joel Goldberg)
Subject: Re: 1st Re: jesus of Nazareth
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:25:16 GMT

In article <4444@bimacs.BITNET> ehrlich@bimacs.BITNET (Gideon Ehrlich)
   Informs me that I need to have my eyes examined:
>It seemed that there is no base to  Goldber's information as if
>he [Rambam (JG)] is burried at Tiberia.
   Asserts the existence of tachyons:
>My advice to Joel is: the next tome you visits tiberia spend some
>monutes less at Lunna gal
   and generally catches me out as a Christian missionary. I see that
 I had better give up my nefarious plans to move into Bayit Vegan. Now
 that I'm exposed I won't be able to subvert this community. A pity,
 after all the trouble that I went to establishing my bona fides
 (including that she'eila we asked of R. S.Z. Auerbach.)

 ==================================================================

 Inter alia, Gideon does answer my question, saying that traditional
 Judaism has a more sophisticated view of praying at a tomb than any
 individual person (am ha'aretz) may be aware of--that their ignorance
 does not determine Jewish beliefs. Now, (sorry to paraphrase) Gideon
 has never heard a Christian praying "Mary, please intercede for me"
 instead of directly to Mary, etc. It is well known, of course, that
 Christianity has no tradition of grappling with theological questions,
 and that all Christians are thoroughly grounded in the minutae
 (dikdukei) of whatever theology Christianity has.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
From: karakoli@vampire-net.CArpathian-Mts.TRansylvania.Ro (Dimitris Karakolis)
Subject: Poihma afierwmeno sthn Aggelikh .
Keywords: Poihsh strateumenh ston agwna kata toi Mutlu
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:21:49 GMT


   Aggelikh, mia kai sou aresei h poihsh, sou afierwnw 
to akoloutho poihma:


Stou Xakan ton olomauro kwlo
perpatwntas o pswlos monaxos
meleta ta gumna kwlomeria
kai st= arxidia stefani forei
ginwmeno apo liges trixoules
pou= xan meinei sto ermo mouni.

   Elpizw na aggikse to poihtiko sou neuro !  :-)

Dimitris karakolis

Xref: sparky soc.culture.greek:10412 soc.culture.turkish:11380 soc.culture.soviet:9755
From: rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu (Jeff Bytof)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: The real purpose of Hasan B-) Mutlu explained in paper
Date: 9 Nov 92 02:08:25 GMT
Organization: ucsd
NNTP-Posting-Host: lutherlab.ucsd.edu


> And theory has long ago been put to practice, as the following
> document describes. This was reported found in an ashtray at the Ankara
>Motor Inn, room 69, right after a visit by a Mr and Mrs Smithpasha.
>The discovery was reported by Ms. Ella McCoos, for ByteWorld magazine:
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>CONFIDENTIAL
>Re: M.U.T.L.U. - Master Untrue Totally Lying Unit.
>Dear Turgut,
> Our nation has finally achieved superiority over Japan and the US in
> the most technologically important field for the 21st Century:

......deleted for brevity.......

Hey, man, this reads like a Stan Lem story! 

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From: bo647@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Cesar Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: English-Greek Translation
Date: 10 Nov 1992 17:12:46 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


Anybody out there with a Mechanical or Electrical Engineering
background, willing and capable of translating a technical manual
from English into Greek, please answer by E-mail.  Best choice: WP
for IBM and modem capability.

Thanks in advance,

Cesar    (Internet: bo647@cleveland.Freenet.Edu)
  
     
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From: kilitzir@csd.uch.gr (Kilitzirakis christos 122)
Subject: Names,names,names and History
Summary: Names
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Crete HELLAS
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:35:55 GMT

Well,this is a subject which I never suspect I would go on try to
prove the obvious...
But,I have an idea which,might(just might) help...
Well,I just wonder how would German people feel if Greece decided
to build cars under the name Mercedes ,japanese people if we produced
Sony products,american people if we produced IBM products, and of course
all that without licence...(???)
	I guess,they wouldn't like it,don't you all think?
	Ok,now,STOP AND THINK,how silly,how tiny,how insignificant these
names are compared to history of Greece???Can almost 4000 years of 
history compared to such things???Well?
	Well,what they want?To call their new borned nation MACEDONIA

Well,the answer is very simple :
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

						Yours trully
						Alkis Argiropoulos

P.S. I wouldn't be negative to have a war for such a reason,I wonder
   why our (Greece's) politics doesn't make that clear???
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