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Subject: Re: Fonts at CICA
From: brecher@husc8.harvard.edu (Jonathan Brecher)
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:45:47
Organization: Harvard Arts and Sciences Computer Services, Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: 96942392@UWWVAX.UWW.EDU's message of Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:30:52 CDT

In article <0095F0A5.D2BD9E40.22479@uwwvax.uww.edu> 96942392@UWWVAX.UWW.EDU writes:

>For those of you who haven't checked at CICA lately, they have locked all of
>the ATM and True Type fonts from being downloaded.  When you go into one
>of those directories, the computer will give you a message saying that
>the fonts are being checked for copyright violations.  There is no mention
>about when the fonts will be available again.

About time!  They've had some pretty blatant violations there for a long time,
and it's so easy for people to assume that if it's at an ftp site, it must
be ok to distribute.

I hope they post a list when they're done of which fonts were illegal.

				jonathan brecher
				brecher@husc.harvard.eduxD

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Reply-To:     "Lauren H. Arango" <LHARANGO@OWUCOMCN.BITNET>
From:         "Lauren H. Arango" <LHARANGO@OWUCOMCN.BITNET>
Subject:      FTP for fonts from Indiana

>                If you've got FTP access and a PC, go to
>ftp.cica.indiana.edu.  In the /pub/pc/win3/fonts/atm there's a _lot_ of
>type 1's that are public domain or shareware fonts.  Install them as
>usual under ATM.

I tried that, and got a message saying that access to those files had been
stopped while they investigated the possibility of some copyrighted fonts
having found their way into the directory.

So as of the beginning of this week, if you try to FTP the fonts from
there, you get an "access denied" message.

                        Lauren Arango
                        Ohio Wesleyan University
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:30:53 EDT
Reply-To:     Laura Milera <DOCWOMAN@PACEVM.BITNET>
From:         Laura Milera <DOCWOMAN@PACEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Newsletter list

I've discovered a new list for Newsletter writers and editors (most of
you may be members already).  It is CCNEWS@BITNIC.

The description reads as follows:

"The CCNEWS newsletter is published bi-weekly by EDUCOM, and focuses
on issues related to writing, editing, design, and production of
computing newsletters and other publications.  To subscribe, send an
interactive message or mail to LISTSERV@BITNIC containing: SUB CCNEWS
FirstName LastName - Institution.

Contributions to the Articles Archive and CCNEWS Newsletter should be
sent to CCNEWS@BITNIC."

Laura
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From: xmpp@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Melody Paul)
Subject: Fonts for HyperCard
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:23:17 GMT

This may not be the place to ask but here goes, does anyone know how to
get the HyperCard Fonts in 2.0 to show up in the menu.  When I select
text style, the fonts are not selectable.  What's wrong with this
program or is it me????


Thanks
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From: Dave.Beaujean@davespc.mi.org (Dave Beaujean)
Sender: FredGate@davespc.mi.org
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Subject: pm4 document size limit
Distribution: world
Date: 14 Aug 92 01:03:00 EST

Hi All!

PM4 seems to have a limit of 22 x 17 for documnets. Is there
no way to make a document larger than this? Any help
would be appreciated very much.

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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:31:00 EST
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From:         "SO MUCH E-MAIL, SO LITTLE TIME" <STONEC@IUBACS.BITNET>
Subject:      FYI Only....

Quark has a new name for its listserv -- here's our techies message telling it
was fixed due to popular demand....  (we removed the e the techies put in!)

cps

------------

The new list name is QUARKXPR@iubvm.  The old list no longer exists, and the
new list contains all the users previously subscribed to the old.
I strongly encourage you to send a message to the list indicating the
new list name and also indicating that subscribers of QUARKEXP are
now subscribers of QUARKXPR.
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:56:58 EDT
Reply-To:     Walter Zimmerman <zimmerma@LIB.UWO.CA>
From:         Walter Zimmerman <zimmerma@LIB.UWO.CA>
Subject:      PageMaker
X-To:         pagemakr%indycms.bitnet@uga.cc.uga.edu

Dear PageMaker user:

I'm not sure if I'm doing this correctly but what I'm trying to do is
subscribe to the PageMaker electronic newsletter (?) and this address
on BITNET is all I could find.  Could you please send instructions as
to how to subscribe via the internet (not BITNET)?  Please send them
to dbwref@lib.uwo.ca which is checked daily Mon to Fri and not to my
own address as I am about to go on vacation for three weeks.  Thanking
you in advance, I am

				Yours sincerely,

				Walter Zimmerman
				zimmerma@lib.uwo.ca

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 11:57:01 -0400
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From:         Elena DeFelice <defelice@A1.RELAY.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      HIgh Praise

>> Everybody give Mr. Bone a big electronic hand! What a resource to have on
>>this list! Thanks jeff.

>How 'bout something a little less virtual.  All those who think I'm the
>greatest (more lavish adjectives deleted for time concerns) just email me
>your VISA-Mastercard-American Express card number or if you're into
>traditional things --- CASH!  :)


Sorry, but mine are not in the best of condition these days... As for cash:
what's that?


>Seriously, your welcome.  You guys may think I'm some big guru sitting here
>answering questions, but believe me I learn a lot from you guys too, my
>grandmother used to say listening is a virture (although I don't think she
>was the first).

How true! I've learned so much from everyone: made my life a bit easier.
But Cindy, Jeff, Geof and Monte have a added that extra bit that deserves
standing ovations. Thanks again, everyone!


Elena

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From: xmpp@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Melody Paul)
Subject: Gif files and EPS converter
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:35:23 GMT

Does any one know how to get gif files to print in pagemaker 4.01?  I
found a gif converter on the internet but I can't find one for EPS
files.  Ihave some EPS files off the internet but when I place them in
pagemaker it's just a shaded gray box, it's supposed to be a world map.
BTW, does anyone have or know where I can FTP a good EPS worldmap?


Thanks

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 08:27:50 CDT
Reply-To:     Jeff Bone <JBONE@DOPIG.UAB.EDU>
From:         Jeff Bone <JBONE@DOPIG.UAB.EDU>
Subject:      PageMaker 5.0, The Good News...

Rosemary writes...

>     I've heard quite a lot of good reports about 5.0.  However, I suppose that
> I will have to wait until my hair turns grey to get it for Windows (of course,
> I am not totally giving up hope).  I'll just have to rely on rooster blood to
> do all of the things I want Pagemaker 4.0 to do until then...

You won't have to do that.  According to the VP of product development at
Aldus, Aldus is committed to multiplatform products and they don't plan to
release any major upgrade for single platform operation.  They are planning
to release PageMaker 5.0 on both the PC, Mac, and another as yet undisclosed
platform at the same time in the fall.  They are also planning to release
version 3.0 of Persuasion (which will be truly binary compatible across
lines) in the fall.  They just released Intellidraw on both platforms with
binary file compatibility.  FreeHand 3.1 is now available on both platforms
with binary file compatibility.  Believe me, they are listening.



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From: Dave.Beaujean@davespc.mi.org (Dave Beaujean)
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Subject: remapping pm4 keys on pc
Distribution: world
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:23:00 EST

Hi All,

Does anyone know how to remap keys in pagemaker. I
want to get rid of the "insert" which inserts a your
clipboard every time you accidentally hit the key.
Also I would like to fix it so the story editor does
not come up when you triple click on text with the
pointer tool. Any help would be appreciated!!!

Dave

         | Dave Beaujean
Internet | dave@davespc.mi.org
USMail   | 9349 Syracuse, Taylor MI  48180   U.S.A.
Phone    | +1 (313) 292-7609

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From:         96942392@UWWVAX.UWW.EDU
Subject:      Fonts at CICA
X-To:         PAGEMAKR%INDYCMS.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU

Hello,

For those of you who haven't checked at CICA lately, they have locked all of
the ATM and True Type fonts from being downloaded.  When you go into one
of those directories, the computer will give you a message saying that
the fonts are being checked for copyright violations.  There is no mention
about when the fonts will be available again.

Rick Johnson
Internet:  96942392@uwwvax.uww.edu
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 09:11:49 EDT
Reply-To:     Kitto <AP201125@BROWNVM.BITNET>
From:         Kitto <AP201125@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: help needed with pm 4

Hi. I've heard about (and have) the Quark import filter for PM docs. I would
like to know, however, if anyone knows of the existence of one that goes the
other way (for importing Quark docs into PM). If one doesn't exist, are there
any rumours of one in development? If neither is the case, are there any
workarounds?
I'm sorry if this is in effect a FAQ,- but it is not addressed in the existing
FAQ list. Thanks for any and all responses.


                                            Kitto
                                            AP201125@Brownvm.Brown.edu
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From:         "I couldah been ah contendah..." <PEAKE@UNCA.BITNET>
Subject:      RE:PAGEMAKR LIST OUT OF CONTROL

Felix Sung <fsung@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA> writes:

(preceding deleted...)

  >I, for one, find the "chitchat" to be a hopeful sign: it reminds all
  >of us that although the medium of communication is technological and
  >impersonal, we are "talking" with people rather than with machines -
  >a point that is all too easily forgotten as we stare at our computer
  >terminals and peck away at our keyboards. The "chitchat" serves as a
  >persistent, but gentle, reminder that the function of the technology
  >we employ is not simply to get the job done better, faster, more
  >efficiently, etc., but to bring people together through their
  >shared experience in a cooperative enterprise. Anything that
  >humanizes and personalizes the SIG is well worth preserving, and
  >even encouraging! To paraphrase Mordecai Richler, the Canadian
  >writer, "the humane values - humour, good manners - unlike hockey or
  >hayfever, are never out of season."


Good points all.  Still, saving the "chitchat" for private email, and leaving
the list open for issues more related directly to PageMaker makes a great deal
of sense. Certainly there is an appropriate time and place for different types
of communication. A little courtesy from all sides could go a long way toward
keeping this list the valueable and entertaining tool it has become...


-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Steve Peake
peake@uncavx.unca.edu
peake@unca.bitnet
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From:         "Monte B. Olsen" <olsenm@CCMAIL.ORST.EDU>
Subject:      Re: PAP Error Defined...(Awfully Arogant huh?)
X-To:         JBONE@dopig.uab.edu, PAGEMAKR@INDYCMS.BITNET

I knew the bone man would have the answer! What a guy!
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Reply-To:     TRUTH -- Geof Peters -- <TRUTH@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU>
From:         TRUTH -- Geof Peters -- <TRUTH@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU>
Subject:      Favorite DTP magazine -- FAQ addendum
X-To:         PAGEMAKR@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU

What would you know -- as soon as I send out the FAQ, I found
something that I need to put in it. Recently Victor Chan conducted a
search for favorite DTP magazines and he came upon one which is not
already in the FAQ. Here is the specs, in Victor's words:


>         Actually, most of the replies I've received favor Publish and
> Before & After (I just ordered it).  Also, I'd like to mention a Canadian
> publication that's pretty good.  EC&I (electronic composition & imaging)
> focuses on various aspects of DTP.  Not necessarily techniques but rather
> articles that complement DTP.  For example, file compression, backup
> strategies, fonts, pre-press process, etc.  Mainly deals with Mac/PC
> (leans towards Mac a bit more) and some Unix - they published an article
> for Illustrator for NeXT.
>
> Comes out 6x a year.  $28.95/yr; $45.95/2 yrs in US funds.  Phone
> 1-800-363-3261, Fax (416) 492-7595
> Upon subscription, disk w/20 PD/SW fonts is given out to subscriber.
>
>         EC&I
>         publ. by Youngblood Communications Corp.
>         505 Consumers Rd., Ste.102
>         Willowdale, Ontario
>         M2J 4V8  CANADA
>
> Hopes this adds to the list.


Geof. [Sorry Victor!]

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 07:55:13 EDT
Reply-To:     Rosemary=Hallberg%NetAd%HSRD@HSRD.SOWO.UNC.EDU
From:         Rosemary=Hallberg%NetAd%HSRD@HSRD.SOWO.UNC.EDU
Subject:      re: Rotation of Graphics in Aldus Products

Jeff et.al.,

    Thanks for reaffirming what I had already thought about rotation of
graphics.  I did think it was impossible, but you guys know some tricks I'm
still learning about.

    I've heard quite a lot of good reports about 5.0.  However, I suppose that
I will have to wait until my hair turns grey to get it for Windows (of course,
I am not totally giving up hope).  I'll just have to rely on rooster blood to
do all of the things I want Pagemaker 4.0 to do until then...

Rosemary Hallberg
Human Services Lab
UNC Chapel Hill
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From: xmpp@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Melody Paul)
Subject: EPS,GIF or TIFF images
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:35:07 GMT

Hi,

Does anyone have some good ideas for images that would convey File
Transfer, E-mail, and a newsreader.  These can be seperate images or a
combination of things.  I'm designing some manuals and would like to
incorporate a graphic symbolizing the package that the manual deals with
as a talble of contents image.


Thanks
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From: dmike@intacc.uucp (Michael DeKoven)
Subject: Re: Pagemaker 5.0
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 02:41:13 GMT
Organization: Matrix Artists' Network

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From:         Felix Sung <fsung@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      Re: PAGEMAKR LIST OUT OF CONTROL
X-To:         jdubey@REED.EDU
              92 12:12 pm

Jess Dubey writes:


> Listen, you guys, all this mutual admiration is really nice and
> everything, but I am soon going to have to unsubscribe to this list due to
> the proliferation of trivial messages flying around. I just don't have

  That's your prerogative.

> time at my work to read all this chitchat, or even sort through the
> various subject lines.

  If your life is that busy, maybe you SHOULD unsubscribe. :-)

> It's just TOO MUCH MAIL with too little content.
> Why can't you send personal messages of thanks instead of jamming the list
> with all this stuff?

    Contrary to the understanding of Internet culture expressed above,
  while one function of Internet and its associated groups may be to
  facilitate the free exchange of information among subscribers, IMHO,
  that is not its sole, or necessarily its primary, purpose. Special
  interests groups (SIG's) are not simply repositories of information
  or an electronic database where one can find the answers to one's
  questions, but a network of PEOPLE with a common interest,
  expertise, or investment in a particular topic or set of topics, in
  conversation with one another.
    I, for one, find the "chitchat" to be a hopeful sign: it reminds all
  of us that although the medium of communication is technological and
  impersonal, we are "talking" with people rather than with machines -
  a point that is all too easily forgotten as we stare at our computer
  terminals and peck away at our keyboards. The "chitchat" serves as a
  persistent, but gentle, reminder that the function of the technology
  we employ is not simply to get the job done better, faster, more
  efficiently, etc., but to bring people together through their
  shared experience in a cooperative enterprise. Anything that
  humanizes and personalizes the SIG is well worth preserving, and
  even encouraging! To paraphrase Mordecai Richler, the Canadian
  writer, "the humane values - humour, good manners - unlike hockey or
  hayfever, are never out of season."

  Felix.
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Subject:      PAGEMAKR LIST OUT OF CONTROL
X-To:         PAGEMAKR@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU

Listen, you guys, all this mutual admiration is really nice and
everything, but I am soon going to have to unsubscribe to this list due to
the proliferation of trivial messages flying around. I just don't have
time at my work to read all this chitchat, or even sort through the
various subject lines. It's just TOO MUCH MAIL with too little content.
Why can't you send personal messages of thanks instead of jamming the list
with all this stuff?

I don't mean to be a wet blanket, and I too appreciate all the tips and
collective wisdom of this group, but I really think we need to think
before we post.

 _______________________________________________________
jess dubey				jdubey@reed.edu
computer user services, reed college
portland, oregon 97202
503.777.7571
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From:         Elena DeFelice <defelice@A1.RELAY.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      printer drive

Jonathan,

>I didn't know that the NT would take a hard drive...

Sorry, meant to say that I had an upgrade board that includes a SCSI port.

Elena

DTP
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From: vchan@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Victor Chan)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pagemakr
Subject: Re: Fontographer for windows
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 08:53:27 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Dave,
        check out Windows magazine from time to time.  I heard about 
Fontographer 'bout 1 month ago in the new product section.  It was 
retailing for $495 US (?!).  That $295, I'm assuming, is the educational 
cost?

BTW, I heard that Pagemaker 5.0 is due for a release this spring/next 
summer.  Anybody confirm this?

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