HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: pfoss@cmsa.gmr.com (Pete Foss PO/46)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.military
Subject: B24
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:08:40 GMT
Reply-To: pfoss@cmsa.gmr.com
Organization: .................

I am building a RC scale model of the B-24 known as "Rice Pattie Hattie".  I have
only one picture of this particular airplane and am looking for more.  Expecially
from the right side.
From: dab@asylum.UUCP (Dave Bridgham)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation
Subject: Re: *long* cross country
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:01:01 GMT

billa@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bill Arnold) writes:

>You don't say what you are flying, so I don't know about such things
>as the service ceiling or your airplane.  Anyway, for your first trip
>over the Rockies, I suggest you not go over them.  There is a very nice
>route west that lets you avoid "rugged" mountains.

I'm flying a Maule which claims a service ceiling of 17,000 feet, but
since I don't have oxygen I'll give out long before the plane.  This
route sounds excellent.  Thanks.

					Dave
From: billa@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bill Arnold)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:11:51 GMT
Subject: Re: SJC -> Wichita, KS in 172, advice?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.aviation


On advice for a trip from San Jose, CA to Wichita, KS.

The airports are not much above 6000 feet MSL, but the mountains
are far above that.  A 172 is very underpowered.  So, my advice is
to fly early, select routes that go through the wide passes, and
keep nice fuel reserves.  It can be a long distance between suitable
places to stop.

Kansas, New Mexico, and Eastern Colorado are almost always windy
(10 to 35 mph).  Mostly, the winds come out of the South.

Hope this helps.  Have a great trip.  You will be crossing some
spectacular country.

Bill Arnold
billa@hpfcma.fc.hp.com
"No guarantees."

Xref: sparky rec.aviation:16396 rec.aviation.products:15
From: joel@cfctech.cfc.com (joel lessenberry)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation,rec.aviation.products
Subject: help with old radios com 11 nav 11
Date: 5 Oct 92 11:57:46 GMT
Organization: Chrysler Financial Corp., Southfield, MI

My cherokee has a narco com 11a and nav 11. The nav 11 is in bad need
of a good cleaning, it acts like old televisions when the tuner is 
dirty. I have taken off the panel (carefully) removed the set screws,
and spent quite some time staring up inside at the thing, but I still
have not found exactly how it is held up there.

Any hints or suggestions are gladly accepted. 

Once I get this thing out and apart, is there any reason not to use
tv tuner cleaner on it (assuming it really is the same sort of 
mechanism)?

	joel
pls post my email is screwed up for a while till the new maps prop.
Newsgroups: rec.aviation
From: carruth@mksol.dseg.ti.com (matthew carruth)
Subject: Re: Solo Rites
Organization: internet
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:44:44 GMT

At the FBO in Terrell, TX there is a wall with many shirts attached.  These 
T-shirts have the usual "John Smith soloed on ...." written on them with a 
magic marker.  There is, at least, one bra tacked onto the wall. It has
a similiar "Jane Doe soloed on..." message.  A custom whose time has come?
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From: burke@tss.com (Jim Burke)
Subject: Re: Looking to buy headset...
Reply-To: burke@tss.com (Jim Burke)
Organization: Teknekron Software Systems. Inc.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:03:06 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.185104.2646@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, patter@dasher.uucp (24224-guthrie) writes:

|> 
|> Oh - DCs are up in the $600 range.
|> 

I paid $247 for my DC H10-60 headset from Chief in Grant's Pass, Oregon.
Shipping was around $5.  Based on my experience with DC regarding another
headset I bought used (they overhauled it free of charge even though I
bought it used and it was out of warranty - and I told them this) I would
recommend a used DC over a new anything else.

-- 

	Jim Burke	"Life is uncertain - eat dessert first!"
	Teknekron Software Systems		... burke@tss.com
  	phone:(415) 617-2432			... uunet!tekbspa!burke
From: hdnea@usho92.hou281.chevron.com (David Neal)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products
Subject: Re: Looking to buy headset...
Date: 3 Oct 92 23:34:37 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <1992Oct2.185104.2646@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> patter@dasher.uucp (24224-guthrie) writes:
>In article <1ahvd7INN21e@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> smythe@cats.ucsc.edu (Brian Matthew Aljian) writes:
>>
>>I'm a student pilot coming *very* close to getting certified, and I'd like to
>>buy a headset of my own.  I've heard that David Clarks are very good, but very
>>expensive.  I've also heard that SoftComms are good.
>
>[advice deleted]
>Oh - DCs are up in the $600 range.
>


For active noise cancellation, maybe. I paid around $250 for my
DC 10-60 from San Val.

My FBO has Softcomm, Telex, and Peltors available for testing, and
I made at least one 1.5+hr flight with each brand.

Then an instructor let me borrow her DC 10-60. Wow. Never looked
back.

Forget I was wearing them on a 3.2 hour crosscountry. 
Just another datapoint in your constellation, I guess.


>patter@dasher.cc.bellcore.com
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>                    |
>George Patterson -  | If you always tell the truth, you never
>                    | have to remember what you said.
>                    |                        Samuel Clemens
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-- 
David Neal -- hdnea@hou281.chevron.com 
Conserve water, California's deserts need more cotton farms.
Barbie says, Take quaaludes in gin and go to a disco right away!
 But Ken says, WOO-WOO!!  No credit at ``Mr. Liquor''!!
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products
From: sund@tde.lth.se (Lars Sundstr|m)
Subject: Looking for wrist-watch with altitude meter
Organization: Applied Electronics, Lund University, Lund, Sweden
Distribution: rec.aviation.products
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:09:57 GMT


Well, the subject says it all. What kind of other functions
are available?

--
Lars Sundstrom, Lund University, Department of Applied Electronics,
Box 118, S-221 00 Lund, Sweden Phone: +46-46109513 Fax:+46-46129948
Internet: sund@tde.lth.se
--
From: mcn@cfa203.HARVARD.EDU (Charley Noecker, Prec Astron)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products
Subject: Re: Looking for wrist-watch with altitude meter
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:17:56 GMT
Distribution: rec.aviation.products
Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA,  USA

From article <BvnECn.LCs@acsu.buffalo.edu>, 
by trljim@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (JIM SONNENMEIER):
> In article <1992Oct5.100957.16136@lth.se>, 
sund@tde.lth.se (Lars Sundstr|m) writes...
>>deleted stuff<<
> casio sells a watch with a peak altimeter. that is it doesn't show 
> current altitude, just the max that was achieved.

Bicyclists have recently been getting into recording their altitude
gains, since that tends to be a significant factor in how tired you
get and how fast you go.  Several cycling computers are now available
that tell you your present altitude based on barometric pressure, with
10-20 feet resolution (but of course not all of that resolution is
useful).  Max and min are usually recorded.  You get an odometer with
it, too!  OK, OK, so it won't work with the wheels off the ground.
Ask your local bike shop.  I think they're a couple hundred $, but I
haven't looked into it.

Charley Noecker
noecker@cfa.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products
From: jlong@emcnext2.tamu.edu (James Long)
Subject: Re: Looking for wrist-watch with altitude meter
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Distribution: rec.aviation.products
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:47:48 GMT

In article <BvnECn.LCs@acsu.buffalo.edu> trljim@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (JIM  
SONNENMEIER) writes:
> In article <1992Oct5.100957.16136@lth.se>, sund@tde.lth.se (Lars Sundstr|m)  
writes...
> > 
> >Well, the subject says it all. What kind of other functions
> >are available?
> > 
> >--
> >Lars Sundstrom, Lund University, Department of Applied Electronics,
> >Box 118, S-221 00 Lund, Sweden Phone: +46-46109513 Fax:+46-46129948
> >Internet: sund@tde.lth.se
> >--
> 
> casio sells a watch with a peak altimeter. that is it doesn't show 
> current altitude, just the max that was achieved.
Hmmm. I'm not sure which one your refering to, but my casio watch with  
alti-depth meter will give a continuous readout of altitude in 20ft increments  
(or depth underwater in 1 ft inc.).  It also stores the max. altitude reached  
between resets, can set an alarm to go off at a specific altitude, and will  
read to a max of 13,280ft. It will also read in meters.  

The one I have is the first model casio made, I understand there is a new  
model, but I don't know the specifics.  Mine has both digital and analog  
readout, and can be found at most large department stores or LL Bean, REI, etc.

e-mail if you have further questions - hope this helps  



--
jlong@emcnext2.tamu.edu			
Electron Microscopy Center
Texas A&M University
College Station, TX 77843-2257
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products
From: len@Tandem.com (Len Fishler)
Subject: Re: Looking to buy headset...
Organization: Tandem Computers
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:12:49 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.185104.2646@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, patter@dasher.uucp (24224-guthrie) writes:
|> In article <1ahvd7INN21e@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> smythe@cats.ucsc.edu (Brian Matthew Aljian) writes:
|> >
|> >I'm a student pilot coming *very* close to getting certified, and I'd like to
|> >buy a headset of my own.  I've heard that David Clarks are very good, but very
|> >expensive.  I've also heard that SoftComms are good.
|> 
... stuff deleted
|> 
|> >Does anybody have any other suggestions?  I'd like to spend between $100-$150
|> >(*maybe* $200 AT THE MOST including tax/shipping/handling).
|> 
... stuff deleted
|> Oh - DCs are up in the $600 range.
|> 

SOrry, but that is QUITE incorrect.  DCs street prices range from ~200 to ~350,
depending on the model.  Check ads in Trade-a-plane or other flying related 
newspapers.  I own DC 10-20 and a DC 10-40, paid under $270 for one, about 
$220 for the other.

- Len Fishler -
fishler_len@tandem.com
PP-ASEL-IA
Centurion N3784Y
From: patter@dasher.uucp (24224-guthrie)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products
Subject: Re: Looking to buy headset...
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:51:04 GMT
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ

In article <1ahvd7INN21e@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> smythe@cats.ucsc.edu (Brian Matthew Aljian) writes:
>
>I'm a student pilot coming *very* close to getting certified, and I'd like to
>buy a headset of my own.  I've heard that David Clarks are very good, but very
>expensive.  I've also heard that SoftComms are good.

I have Softcomms. They're more than adequate for radio work. If I were to
do it again, I'd buy some good stereo phones. There's lots of time on a
long trip when a tape player is a nice option. Softcomms don't have the
quality necessary to make the music sound good.

>Does anybody have any other suggestions?  I'd like to spend between $100-$150
>(*maybe* $200 AT THE MOST including tax/shipping/handling).

I bought a Flightcom intercom unit. Based on my impression of that, I'd
say that their headsets would be about the same quality as Softcomm, and
I think they're cheaper.

The best thing would be for you to join the AOPA. Once you do that, ask
them for reprints of headset evaluation articles they've printed.

Oh - DCs are up in the $600 range.

patter@dasher.cc.bellcore.com
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From: doshay@ursa.arc.nasa.gov (David Doshay)
Subject: Re: Looking to buy headset...
Organization: NASA-Ames Biocomputation Center
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 00:36:47 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.210719.2744@u.washington.edu>, seymour@milton.u.washington.edu (Richard Seymour) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct2.212915.21273@news.arc.nasa.gov> doshay@ursa.arc.nasa.gov (David Doshay) writes:
|> >Having read posts recommending Peltor 7004 and SoftCom, I will just
|> >quickly say that I had SoftCom C40 sets for a few years until I could not
|> >stand the head-clamping anymore. It left ridges in the top of my head
|> >that would last for weeks after a multi-hour XC flight. 
|> 
|> for those of us who can't at the moment spring the cost of comfortable Peltors,
|> allow me to recommend Oregon Aero's  "Sheep" headband cushions... 
|> they make two sizes "Dave Clark" and "other",... i managed to see some at
|>  an FBO and ascertained that they'd fit my Sigtronics P30's (??)
|> 
|> they completely cured the "one-hour headband headache" problem.
|>  They are about $20/headset.
|> 
|> >I bought a pair of Peltors and I truly love them. Very comfortable.
|> I am going to try some of these soon and may well switch (my wife's ears
|>  don't fit inside the Sigtronics' ear cups...)
|> 


I tried a 'homebrew' solution like the Sheep headbands. My wife is a wool/sheep
fanatic, and we have plenty of sheepskin and the like around the house. I cut
sheepskin patches to fit under the headbands, and it did help some, but not
enough for me. I really did try to avoid spending all that money for new
headsets, but I am now very glad I did. 

David		doshay@soma.arc.nasa.gov

The thought police insist I tell you:
my thoughts, not NASA's
From: ron@topaz.bds.com (Ron Natalie)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products
Subject: Re: Looking to buy headset...
Date: 6 Oct 1992 18:16:23 GMT
Organization: BDS Systems
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: topaz.bds.com

> more than you would like to spend ($250), but Sporty's has been advertising
> a pair of 10-30 for $159 or 169. My friend bought one for his wife and has
> been pleased with them.

The 10-30 is the ONLY Dave Clark you should stay away from.  It's has
a dynamic microphone with only limitted noise cancelling.  I like my
10-80's just fine though.

WARNING:   THE CURRENT SPORTY'S CATALOG HAS THE PICTURES OF THE HEADPHONES
OVER THE WRONG DESCRIPTIONS.  Noticably the 10-40 and 10-80 appear to be
backwards. 

-Ron
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products
From: doshay@ursa.arc.nasa.gov (David Doshay)
Subject: Re: Looking to buy headset...
Organization: NASA-Ames Biocomputation Center
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:29:15 GMT

Having read posts recommending Peltor 7004 and SoftCom, I will just
quickly say that I had SoftCom C40 sets for a few years until I could not
stand the head-clamping anymore. It left ridges in the top of my head
that would last for weeks after a multi-hour XC flight. I bought a pair
of Peltors and I truly love them. Very comfortable. They are the only ones
that I can get my 18 month old daughter to wear. No problem at all on
long flights.

My vote is Peltor 7004.

David		doshay@soma.arc.nasa.gov

The thought police insist I tell you:
my thoughts, not NASA's
From: kkalan@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Kenneth Kalan)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products
Subject: Re: Looking to buy headset...
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:52:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Oct5.195213.3104
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <1ahvd7INN21e@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> smythe@cats.ucsc.edu (Brian Matthew Aljian) writes:
>
>I'm a student pilot coming *very* close to getting certified, and I'd like to
>buy a headset of my own.  I've heard that David Clarks are very good, but very
>expensive.  I've also heard that SoftComms are good.
>
>Does anybody have any other suggestions?  I'd like to spend between $100-$150
>(*maybe* $200 AT THE MOST including tax/shipping/handling).
>
>Thanks in advance for any comments/suggestions!
>
>-- 
>   Brian M. Aljian
>   smythe@stallion.santa-cruz.ca.us

I would recommend the Dave Clarks, they are very well build, offer a 5 year
warrenty, and stand behind their products.  I have a 10-60 which is a little 
more than you would like to spend ($250), but Sporty's has been advertising
a pair of 10-30 for $159 or 169. My friend bought one for his wife and has
been pleased with them.

My girlfriend has a 10 year old pair of 10-40's which she just sent in for
some upgrading (installation of a volume control) and Dave Clark found
the her Mike was a little staticy and is replacing it at no cost.

That's what I call service.

Ken Kalan   PP ASEL
kgk@nwu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products
From: epaters@icaen.uiowa.edu (Eric G Paterson)
Subject: Laptop based moving maps
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 12:55:28 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

I am looking for somebody who has experience using a laptop 
computer (a powerbook 145 in my case) in conjunction with
a Loran or GPS as a moving map display.  In AOPA Pilot, October
issue, a brief overview was given of a software package by
Mentor Plus.   I am curious about this product and wonder if
anyone has information on the following.

	1)  Is it possible to connect to any Loran/GPS, especially
		in a rented aircraft?

	2)  How often does the database need to be updated and 
		what is the cost?

	3)  Any personal experiences with this type of product

Thanks,

Eric Paterson
paterson@icaen.uiowa.edu
 


Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Handheld GPS 
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:39:47 GMT

Hoi> == Hoi Chong <hchong@netcom.com> 

 Hoi> Also, are the GPS satellites turned on all the time?  I heard that
 Hoi> they were turned off during the Gulf war for fear of Iraqi using
 Hoi> it to guide their missiles.

Au contraire.  The "selective availability" (read: degradation of
accuracy) "feature", which is designed to prevent the "bad guys" (read:
anyone but the US Dep't of Defense) from using GPS for anything
requiring precision, was actually *turned off* during the war.

Turns out they couldn't get enough milspec GPS boxes for all the units
that needed them, but they could buy *lots* of civvie gear quick...
--
Christopher K. Davis      |       NET.INSIGHTS INTO ARTISTIC CRITICISM:
<ckd@eff.org>   EFF #14   | ``[Y]ou don't cure bad art by locking it all up
System Administrator, EFF | in one museum, you cure it by throwing tomatoes
+1 617 864 0665  [CKD1]   | at bad artists.'' --Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products,rec.aviation.student
From: wpeloqui@medar.com (Willie Peloquin)
Subject: King Video's for sale
Organization: Medar, Inc.     Farmington Hills, MI
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:20:51 GMT


For Sale:

	King School Videos:

	    IFR Written Exam Video Course
	    Private Pilot Flight Test
	    VFR with Confidence
	    IFR with Confidence
	    Takeoffs & Landings made Easy
	    Night Flying
	    Jeppeson Chart Review
	    Rules to Fly By
	    Communications
	    Airspace Review
	    Practical Piloting
	    Weather Wise

Well I have taken my Instrument Written and I can recommend the videos. It
would be nice to keep the tapes for reference. However flying is a hobby
designed to keep you broke!

They all have to go !!  One at a time or all at once !!

Email an offer to Crazy Willie's !!
Swell video's cheap !!

-- 
Willie Peloquin		      | I'm not a kid anymore, but this ain't no
wpeloqui@medar.com	      | midlife crisis, because whiskey and women
uunet!medar!n8mdy!wpeloqui    | have always been my vices!       Bocephus
From: schayne@acs.ucalgary.ca (Stephen Hayne)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products
Subject: Re: Laptop based moving maps
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:38:51 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Oct5.125528.6896@news.uiowa.edu> epaters@icaen.uiowa.edu (Eric G Paterson) writes:
>I am looking for somebody who has experience using a laptop 
>computer (a powerbook 145 in my case) in conjunction with
>a Loran or GPS as a moving map display...

I just purchased FlightSoft Professional's flight planning
software.  It is a DOS application, but uses a mouse and has a
graphical flight planning mode; zoom in a out on the US/CANADA
and point at the airports you want.  It also has a moving map
display that connects to ANY NMEA 0183 standard GPS and to many
LORANs.  I have used it with a "black box" GPS (one that you can
buy for surveyors use ~$350US) and it works very well.  I am
quite impressed with the overall package.  It only cost $188.
However, I haven't actually brought my notebook on a flight with
me.

I'll keep you posted.  BTW - I am in no way associated with FS!




-- 
Stephen C. Hayne, Assistant Professor, MIS, University of Calgary
    __!__         (403)220-7161        schayne@acs.ucalgary.ca
_____(_)_____     "I love to fly - my banker will verify."
From: smythe@cats.ucsc.edu (Brian Matthew Aljian)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products
Subject: Looking to buy headset...
Date: 2 Oct 1992 17:03:35 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


I'm a student pilot coming *very* close to getting certified, and I'd like to
buy a headset of my own.  I've heard that David Clarks are very good, but very
expensive.  I've also heard that SoftComms are good.

Does anybody have any other suggestions?  I'd like to spend between $100-$150
(*maybe* $200 AT THE MOST including tax/shipping/handling).

Thanks in advance for any comments/suggestions!

-- 
   Brian M. Aljian
   smythe@stallion.santa-cruz.ca.us
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products
From: parnass@cbnewse.cb.att.com (Bob Parnass, AJ9S)
Subject: Icom IC-A20 hand-held aircraft walkie-talkie for sale
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Naperville, IL
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:34:08 GMT
Keywords: aero radio


For Sale: ICOM IC-A20 hand-held aircraft Nav/Com.
Like new, hardly used, original box. Local pickup, or
shipping negotiable.

Price: $390.
Contact Reinhard Metz, Wheaton, Illinois
Home (708)668-8562
Work (708)979-5508


NOTE: Don't respond via e-mail...I'm posting this for a friend...BP
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==============================================================================
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Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products
From: hchong@netcom.com (Hoi Chong)
Subject: Re: Looking to buy headset...
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:34:45 GMT

From article <1ahvd7INN21e@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, by smythe@cats.ucsc.edu (Brian Matthew Aljian):
> 
> I'm a student pilot coming *very* close to getting certified, and I'd like to
> buy a headset of my own.  I've heard that David Clarks are very good, but very
> expensive.  I've also heard that SoftComms are good.
> 
> Does anybody have any other suggestions?  I'd like to spend between $100-$150
> (*maybe* $200 AT THE MOST including tax/shipping/handling).
> 
> Thanks in advance for any comments/suggestions!

My instructor has a $100 headset for his students.  I find it quite heavy
and tight that it gave me mild headache after an hour.  So I went and 
bought a off-the-shelf headset from the local shop for $200.  I forgot
its name (in my car now) but it feels light, loose with big floppy "ears"
and cushion and it is 180 degree from the other headset.  The mic is 
very sensitive, so are the speakers in the headset.  It almost feel like
the headset was not there, even after one hour of flying. Two hundredd is 
certainly worth it. 


Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products
From: cep@taligent.com (Christophe Pettus)
Subject: New Jeppesen Aviation Calculator
Organization: Taligent, a little subsidiary of two really big companies.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:54:51 GMT

As part of my regular Jeppesen mailings, I've noticed that Jeppesen has
come out with a new aviation calculator, obviously intended as
competition for Sporty's calculator.  It looks nice; has anyone
actually played with one?
--
-- Christophe

"He presented it with a length of string, and then passed on to the
Statue of Corrupted Endeavor, there to await the arrival of autumn."