HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: btlee@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Mr. Byungtae Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re:Aftermath of election
Date: 26 Dec 92 19:08:29 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin; Austin, Texas


 In article <1992Dec26.032640.9167@news.cs.brandeis.edu> tchoi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>btlee@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Mr. Byungtae Lee) writes:	
>
>
>>        On the other hand, unfortunately it was obvious again that DJ could
>>        not build his political base outside his province. I am from Choong-
>>        Buk where I could not find a bit of DJ support.
>
>Come on, what are you talking about? DJ is more popular in Seoul than YS.
>I think he got above 20% from all regions except Kyongsangdo (Kangwon?).
>

          I think this figure is pretty much misleading.
          You maybe meant 20% more including Cholla province. However,
          as far as I heard, DJ only won Seoul outside Cholla. 
          He did not win Kangwon, Choong Chung, KyungKi,.....
          In addition, I said that he did well more than what I expected 
          because he added 2 million votes to those he got in 1988.
      
          However, do you know how many new branches of DP were created just 
          before national assembly election (JI-KOO-DANG-CHANG-DANG)? How many
          setors did they give up to send  candidates?  I meant the political
          mechanism outside his province beyond his personal popularity.
          Only every election time, they was in hurry to pick up candidates for          those areas including my home town, ChoongJoo.   Will you insist that
          all people from those areas are foolish enough and lack of so-called
          historical concepts or misinformed?

          In additioin, even in Seoul, the margin was minimal.  How much
          do you think he got outside Ex-Cholla people and liberal young
          college or college-graduate voters?  Even in national assembly
          election, there was clear trend that DP got more votes from the 
          electoral sectors with high density of Ex-Cholla people.

          Byungtae Lee
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: shlee@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Seunghun Lee)
Subject: Re: To Ho Dor Seung
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 12:14:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.100424.27476@sbcs.sunysb.edu> swkim@csws17.ic.sunysb.edu () writes:
>Are you a student in University of Penn. or University of Hamheung?
>

I happended to finger him (not her - i think)
according to the following, his REAL name is Hyunsuk Seung.
and studing anatomy in penn.

Hey, Hyunsuk.
tell the truth, who really you are and what your real opinion is.
or shut up, ok?


********************************************************************
anyone will see the following by typing 
	hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu
or	hseung@salsa.seas.upenn.edu


[anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu]
Login name: hseung    			In real life: Hyunsuk Seung
Directory: /lab1/neuron/hseung      	Shell: /usr/local/bin/tcsh
On since Dec 21 01:28:56 on ttyq0   	8 hours 9 minutes Idle Time
Project: Machine learning and 3D imaging.
Plan:
Home: 4001 Pine St.                     Office: Anatomy Building Rm 123
      Philadelphia, PA 19104    ywctS           School of Medicine
      (215) 386-9480            AHRto           Univ. of Pennsylvania
                                oUnu?           Philadelphia, PA 19104
                              @}-,`-,---        (215) 898-7536/6278


[salsa.seas.upenn.edu]
Login name: hseung    			In real life: Hyunsuk Seung
Directory: /home3/h/hseung          	Shell: /usr/local/bin/tcsh
Last login Mon Dec 21 00:09 on ttyp0
New mail received Mon Dec 21 18:29:11 1992;
  unread since Mon Dec 21 14:31:22 1992
Project:
  Machine learning and 3D imaging.
Plan:
Home: 4001 Pine St.                     Office: Anatomy Building Rm 123
      Philadelphia, PA 19104    ywctS           School of Medicine
      (215) 386-9480            AHRto           Univ. of Pennsylvania
                                oUnu?           Philadelphia, PA 19104
                              @}-,`-,---        (215) 898-7536/6278
From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Maybe you'all don't understand!
Date: 1 Jan 93 16:03:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.wfFDTtK00WBLM2So4R
	<1304@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Mr. Kim writes:

.

> 
>The woman you are refering to is probably a Japanese citizen who 
>disappeared in the early 80's. She was reported to be in North
>Korea by Kim Hyun-hui, a North Korean agent who was captured for
>bombing a Korean Air 747 and killing the crew and all 100+ passengers, 
>mostly construction workers returning from jobs in the mid-east. Kim 
>Hyun-hui confessed to being a North Korean agent and for the bombing.
>In her testimony, she mentioned there was a Japanese woman who used the 
>Korean name 'Eun-hye' who was a Japanese Language instructor at one
>of the secret agent schools in North Korea. Kim said that Eun-hye had
>been kidnapped from Japan but was co-opted to serve the North Koreans.
>Japanese officials have been trying to verify this ever since the
>story came out. The North Koreans deny any involvement in the bombing
>or any knowledge of Kim Hyun-hui. Under such circumstances, the North
>Koreans have not been cooperative with the Japanese investigation. 

First of all, I would like to thank you for you very informative post. I
am also delighted that I learnt this from a Korean. It is against
Nippon's constitution
for the Government to partake in any spying in any form. N. Ko-ryo is no
threat to Nippon therefore any spying there is considered "Offensive".
"Trying to verify", this is very bias to me. If this woman was kidnapped
from Nippon, surely her family/friends would would have come forward and
'everyone' in the 'free' world would have been bombarded with this
information from then until the day Christ Jesus comes! I really and
seriously doubt that the N. Ko-ryo or any nation would do an
international kidnapping of a 'Japanese spy'! Don't you see how corny
this is!!!
From: piglet@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Kyung Hee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Looking for Korean Playboy
Date: 31 Dec 92 01:12:44 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at Austin
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
X-XXMessage-ID: <A7679F726401B9AC@slip-x72.ots.utexas.edu>
X-XXDate: Wed, 30 Dec 92 18:48:18 GMT


    
	
	
	Hi!


    This no joke.  I'm looking for magazines like Playboy and Penthouse
that
have Korean girls in them.  I already know that there's nothing like this
in
Austin.  I was wondering if there is something out in Los Angeles or
somewhere 
else in California and possibly in New York(where Koreans are heavily
populated) where I could get access to it.  It would be great if I could
get
subscriptions to the magazines.  If anyone knows anything or have any
other 
helpful information that would assist me in this hunt it would be greatly
appreciated.  Thanks. 

                                              Kyung Hee
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: shlee@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Seunghun Lee)
Subject: Re: S.C.K Manner (Re: To Ho Dor Seung)
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:00:00 GMT

gee,

seems some guys have been waiting when i make some mistake
and very eager to critisize my morality.

alright, folks

since many folks concered the manner, let me reply.

if that offened some of you, i sincerely apologize.
i did not know Hyunsuk has multi-personalities.
yes, in movie-era, who cares MPS?

i am sorry again.

Seunghun Lee


Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: YSC@ECL.PSU.EDU (Yong-Seok N Cho)
Subject: test
Organization: Penn State Engineering Computer Lab
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 20:59:24 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

This is just a test. 
Please ignore.
Thank you.
From: tchoi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Another answers (Pusan Scandal follow-Up)
Date: 2 Jan 93 16:36:33 GMT
Reply-To: tchoi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University

btlee@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Byungtae Lee) writes:

>  To be a matured society is not a joke either. For that, now I darely insist
>  that Korea should be free from student movement. 
>  To a normal society, it is better to minimize political fractions
>  who do not bear political responsibility.  Without check from people, without
>  political responsibility, they can ask anything, can do anything, can blame 
>  whoever. Students should go back for study. 

I was always confused by those students. For me, they seemed to be obsessed
by something which I couldn't understand. Another confusing thing was why they
didn't transfer to some social departments instead of remaining science
departments, where they couldn't study social stuffs. (just my prejudice,
no insult intended)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: swkim@csws17.ic.sunysb.edu ()
Subject: To Ho Dor Seung
Originator: swkim@csws17.ic.sunysb.edu
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 10:09:37 GMT
From: junglee@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Jung S. Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Nettiquette or Freedom of speech
Date: 1 Jan 93 20:12:01 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

citew@menudo.uh.edu (Seung Hyun Kim) writes:

>In article <Dec.28.12.35.05.1992.16249@gandalf.rutgers.edu> junglee@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Jung S. Lee) writes:
>> ...
>> ... all the stupid junks,  deleted ...

>AAUGGGGG !!!
>Whenever I see this kind of stupid jerk,  I lose my temper.
>Most stupid one I've ever seen!
>Yuk !

Mr. Seung Hyun Kim:

I hope you like the e-mail I sent to you along with my personal
feeling to your post. I also digusted by your pure junk post, which
seven year old kid of yours can write to you. If you have a different
or totally opposite opinion, I am sure you could share that with us by
posting it. But with your retarded or malfunctional brain of yours,
you just show your inability to communicate with others including me.
As I wrote in my previous articles, I am open minded to anyone's
opinion. And I wouldn'try to stop anyone from writing the junk like
yours against me. But that kind of article will help me show that I am
not the one in s.c.k to attack others' feeling but talk about a genuine
issue. Of course, there will be follow-up e-mail to you with how I
felt, not to anyone else. Just for your eyes only, baby.

If all of you want to say something about what I said in my articles,
say it.  At least, this guy said something. I bet there are some
people out there who don't agree with me on this but because of
whatever reason they don't speak out. What is wrong with you, guys?
You don't have a mouth to speak or a brain to think. You have
everything I have, and why are you quiet? Don't have guts to speak
out? I am not talking about sex or anything offensive. I am talking
about what gives us right to write here.

Jung
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: sysadm@worak.kaist.ac.kr (system admin)
Subject: Revised: Hangul News
X-Unparseable-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 2:14:44 KST
Organization: Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 17:15:04 GMT

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From: junglee@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Jung S. Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Nettiquette or Freedom of speech
Date: 1 Jan 93 20:42:31 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

citew@menudo.uh.edu (Seung Hyun Kim) writes:

>In article <Dec.28.12.35.05.1992.16249@gandalf.rutgers.edu> junglee@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Jung S. Lee) writes:
>> ...
>> ... all the stupid junks,  deleted ...

>AAUGGGGG !!!
>Whenever I see this kind of stupid jerk,  I lose my temper.
>Most stupid one I've ever seen!
>Yuk !

O.K. One more time.

Dear Netters:

While reading this pur junk, one thought came to my mind. Perhaps
there are more people like Mr. Seung H. Kim, and others unlike him. I
mean, opinion on what I am talking about, Nettiquette or freedom of
speech. And I start to wonder how come no one really speak out on
this. Is it because it is not worth of discussing it or interested
whatsoever. Or simply don't know if you have the right or want to
exercise it. Let me ask this. All you guys agrees on freedom of
speech, but not on the way to express, right? Why don't you guys post
your thought on this the way you want to express with or without
Nettiquette in your mind. 


Jung

P.S. say anything. And one more thing, of course I responsed to Mr. S.
H. K's article with my personal e-mail reply and follow-up(acturally
that one is supposed to post here instead of this).
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: "Suh Jung Yul" <jysuh@moose.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: More on Kidnapped Japanese.. (Re: Maybe you'all don't understand!)
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 15:47:21 -0500

hnkst2+@pitt.edu (Hanhwe N Kim) writes:

>In article <1993Jan2.041744.563@mtu.edu> barrera@mtu.edu (Barrera) writes:
>70's there were many Red Army terrorists who had received training
>in North Korea and there is in Japan a very large and well organized
>group of North Korean supporters known as the Cho-Chong-Yon
>or Chosen People's Union which runs its own Korean schools.
>I always wondered why the North Koreans would not recruit Language
>instructors among those people rather than go through the trouble of
>kidnapping somebody. 
>-Hanhwe Kim

Actually, the most important reason for kidnapping is that North Korean
agent can use the identity of kidnapped person later. They can secure
all his/her legal record and past.
as language instructor is the byproduct of such operation, I think.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: milburn@vision.postech.ac.kr (John Milburn)
Subject: Re: Comment on election
Reply-To: milburn@vision.postech.ac.kr (John Milburn)
Organization: POSTECH, Pohang, Korea
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 01:20:23 GMT

In the referenced article shin-jungshik@yale.edu (Jungshik Shin) writes:

>[...] Of course, I hope they went back to their work instead of going
>out to drink.

No, from what I have seen from baram.kaist.ac.kr, I guess they went
back to trying to break into other peoples' computers.

-jem
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: More on Kidnapped Japanese.. (Re: ........)
From: <CHOI@NDSUVM1.BITNET> Youngjun Choi
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 12:15:26 CST
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network

Mr. Kim worte:
..... .......................
........ Chosen People's......
..............................

You meant 'Chosun'.....?......!....right?
I hope you do know what I mean.
From: hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu (Hyunsuk Seung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: To Ho Dor Seung
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:08:26 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

vincek@oakhill.sps.mot.com writes:
> > My name is Hyunsuk Seung, and I am hungry.  How about you?
>
>    Hey, if you are hungry, then go to the Korey-Jung on 5th street.

Okay, but it will be your treat.  

By the way, Korey-Jung has, perhaps, the most hilarious TV commercial
(the depiction of their customers taking a huge bite of BulGoGi can
easily win the international TV commercial award)!

Hyunsuk Seung
hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: shlee@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Seunghun Lee)
Subject: Re: The missing Japanese lady (Re: Maybe you'all don't understand!)
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 21:00:50 GMT

In article <1312@blue.cis.pitt.edu> hnkst2+@pitt.edu (Hanhwe N Kim) writes:
>
>Note that
>everywhere there are many people who disappear not only from foul play
>such as kidnapping or murder but for other reasons as well. Sometimes
>people don't want to be found ... maybe they owe money to somebody or
>felt really depressed...
>
>As for the woman's friends or family, if indeed she was kidnapped by the 
>North Koreans, they would not know about it. They'd be just one of many 
>people in Japan who had somebody they know disappear for no apparant reason. 
>

or she might be kidnapped by YA-KU-JA (japanese gang).
anyone who saw the korean movie "Kim's war" would guess so.
who knows?
From: shlee@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Seunghun Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: MINJJA vs MINJOO
Date: 23 Dec 92 23:06:32 GMT
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore


yes, there are many many promising NEW faces with NEW ideas in MINJOO, 
unlike MINJJA where just old guys (or old ideas) are hanging around.

and the free contest will decide who would be the candidate of MINJOO.
and whoever the winner is will get full support from us (except MINJJA members)

now, who would be the best candidate?
the first and second and third quality of the candidate must be
the ability to WIN.

from the last elections, we have seen that anyone who is from
gorverning party and from Kyungsang province won.
it is because there are SOLID large number of very conservative votes.
( they NEVER vote anyone who has new idea)
and Kyungsang has the second largest number of voting people.
since next guy from MINJJA must be a guy from Kyungsang 
with full support of YS,
it is unlikely for majority of Kyungsang people to vote for MINJOO.
( I deeply appologize if anyone from Kyungsang hurt but
there are too many people who vote by area)
and we also saw that anyone from Jeonrha failed
since Jeonrha is small.
( I also deeply appologize anyone from Jeonrha)

I know it is very sad for our country.
all of us abroad know that our country is so small that we should not
waste any single man and woman.
we all should unite and work together, east, west, south, north.
but I don't think the majority of our people in next election would
realize it and throw the old prejudice away. 
 
therefore in my opinion, to win the election, 
we have to win BIG in central part of country.
so i think a guy from central part would be the most promising to win,
like Chung DaeChul, Lee BooYoung, Cho SeHyung, etc.


AGAIN, the free contest will decide who would be the candidate of MINJOO.
and whoever the winner is will get full support from us.

Sincerely
Seunghun Lee  (e-mail: shl@holger.pha.jhu.edu)
From: swkim@csws17.ic.sunysb.edu ()
Subject: To Ho Dor Seung - 2
Originator: swkim@csws17.ic.sunysb.edu
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 10:13:10 GMT

Don't cheat us anymore.  We are not stupid.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: yshan@screamer.ece.ncsu.edu (Youn-Sik Han (Snyder))
Subject: RE: Parliamentary System
Reply-To: yshan@relito.medeng.wfu.edu
Organization: NCSU Visualization Lab	
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 14:36:10 GMT


In article <1992Dec28.170334.10925@news.cs.brandeis.edu>,
tchoi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
> hojoon@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Hojoon Choi) writes:
> 
> >Is there anyone who prefer this system?
> >Then could you let me know the reason?
> 
> 
> According to a poll (which was taken before the elction), 
> 35% (36%?) people supported parliamentary system and
> 34% (35%?) people supported presidential system.
> Parliamentary system supporters somehow think that it can cure 
> 'Jiyok Kamjong'.
> 

If the Pparliamentary system is to cure the so-called 'Jiyok Kamjong' problem,
I don't think it is the best way. That system may cause inefficiency in
solving one of the hottest problem, Korean economy, and may cause more rotten
politics. 

To cure the 'Jiyok Kamjong' problem, we should directly approach to the core of
that problem. What is the fundamental problems or major causes of 'Jiyok
Kamjong'? (let's share.)

With presidential system we may cure it while securing the efficiency. Well,
for the sake of efficiency, we have lost a lot in previous history. However,
IMO, that danger can be and should be avoided by the power of people - 
{Yeo-Ron}, and I am optimistic in that sense since the Korean people became 
mature through 6-th Republic period. Which may be one of the most outstanding
performance of Mr. Roh's government.

Han
From: hseung@salsa.seas.upenn.edu (Rachael H. Seung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Eyes
Date: 3 Jan 93 17:05:30 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


For me, as may have been apparent from my previous posting, Korean
eyes are eyes, just like any other eyes, and so it's no big deal to me
if I don't have folded eyes.  If I can't have green eyes, then I'll
make do with colored contact lens; can't find brown eye shadows, I'll
use soy bean paste, and so on.  Basically, dress how the models dress
(this could be another thread, actually: "The Beautiful Korean").

--
Rachael H. Seung                   *   *         Salsa Today 
hseung@salsa.seas.upenn.edu       \|/ \|/        Surgery Tomorrow
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: shlee@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Seunghun Lee)
Subject: Re: Another answer
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:19:58 GMT

In article <85888@ut-emx.uucp> btlee@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Mr. Byungtae Lee) writes:
>
>     In addition, this unfair practice does not 
>     give any excuse for not obeying laws.  

so you're saying that even if the law is terribly wrong, we should
obey the law.
I know you like changing a wrong law. and respect your opinion.
but you're saying the only way to change the law is within the law.
that is where we disagree with each other.
you said that you were furiously angry with Yoo-Shin.
then what about anti-YooShin movement in 70's?
they didn't obey the YooShin Law, did they?

i think that you agree on the fact that they who disobeyed Yoo-Shin
brought the collape of Yoo-Shin much faster than without their disobeyance.