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From: wedwards@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Mail-order paintball equipment suppliers
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:51:03 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <12543@umd5.umd.edu>, stephen@snoopy.umd.edu (Tim Stephen) writes:
> Hi,
>    I'm interested in addresses and/or phone numbers of PB equip suppliers.
> If you've had good luck with a company please post. Thanks

 I have had good luck and great prices from a mail order company in Georgia
called DRACO 1-800-642-5039.  I've always received my order within a week but
that's probably because I live in the region.  They charge a flat $10 shipping
fee for each order (any size and quanity) plus $5 for C.O.D. (that's $15 total
for each C.O.D. order).  They send out a price list which is just a list of
each item and price.  You pretty much need to know exactly what you want before
you place an order, but if you have a specific need or question they will call
you back.  The only thing I don't like is not always getting through on the 1st
call, but if you have a price list and know what you want you can leave your
order on their machine.  Since I have most of the equipment I need, (I got my 
Illustrator, barrels,... from DRACO) I usally only need paintballs and ordering
is no problem.  Their prices beat most I've seen and if you have a large order
the flat shipping fee can save you $$.

Walt Edwards
From: barbour@ug.cs.dal.ca (Phillip Edward barbour)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: GZ2000
Date: 8 Apr 92 12:42:13 GMT
Distribution: dal
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

In <1992Apr7.133307.4860@ac.dal.ca> robinson@ac.dal.ca writes:

>Anyone out there have a GZ2000?  I saw one the other day.  For those who 
>don't know what it is, it is the GZ1000 modified to be a double action 
>semi-auto with either 12gr quick change or CA.  

>If you've got one, what do you think of it re:  price/performance etc.
>-- 
>John Robinson                  Only criminals, tyrants, and cowards have
>robinson@ac.dal.ca                 reason to fear the armed, honest citizen.
>DOD #0069

 Well the place I work for (Atlantic Paintball Games and Supply) just got
one in and we put it threw the torcher test! IT seemed to hold up pretty well.
It appears to be a modified rapide, however it has new internals and is made
from composite carbon. It works pretty well, with a rather stiff trigger 
pull. It has a CA adapter built in, but you can buy it in 12gram version, then
they send you a nifty quick change. The price however is kinda steap, as far
as a starter gun goes.
From: sean@ms.uky.edu (Sean Casey)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Paintball and alcohol!
Date: 14 Apr 92 04:31:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: ms.1992Apr14.043113.17603
Organization: The Leaning Tower of Patterson Office @ The Univ. of KY

Have a chat with the owner and explain how allowing intoxicated people
to play is gross negligence. Explain how it will look to a judge
should he ever be the subject of a lawsuit. Be genuinely sympathetic
and explain that you like playing paintball and you like his field and
you'd like to see it be around a while.

If that doesn't straighen him out, take more severe measures. See if
you can get his business license revoked. It's better than someone
being badly injured.

Sean
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sean@s.ms.uky.edu | conditions for sailing -- not something to be gotten rid
U of KY, Lexington| of, but something to be danced with.''
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 15 Apr 1992 21:13:44 CDT
From: DMc <U53306@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: CURIOUS OF NO VOTES

people most likely voted no because a lot of people believe that the
formation of new groups is an evil thing.  It is _much_ easier to
create a new group than to kill off an unused one, so some people feel
that unless the group is especially vital (e.g. med.breakthrough.cure.for.aids)
it should not be created.  They have the right to their opinion....

fortunately, we prevailed!

Dave McCarty <u53306@uicvm.uic.edu> <mccarty@earth.eecs.uic.edu>
Paintballer Extraordinaire  (HA!)  F.Y.B.I.P.P.B.  IPPA #5666
From: derek@slab.slip.uiuc.edu (Derek Taubert)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Paintball and alcohol!
Date: 14 Apr 92 01:26:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: slab.1992Apr14.012641.15681
Reply-To: dat33228@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Organization: Damage Inc.

In article <1992Apr13.222937.28615@cs.rose-hulman.edu>  
alejanrd@adrienne.cs.rose-hulman.edu (Raymond D. Alejandro) writes:
> I don't know about IPPA, but mixing alcohol dn paintball is STUPID.  Anything

Especially when you consider how much liquid you can deplete from your body in  
one day of play in warm weather.  (Sounding like a Gatorade or Chiquita bannana  
commercial yet? :-)  Drinking alcohol only makes things worse.

> that shoots anything at 300-400+ fps can be very dangerous, and we don't need
> drunken idiots messing up the already shaky reputation of paintball.  I would

I don't mean to start another thread here, but there is nothing shaky about the  
reputation of paintball.  At any case, I've had my fill of drunken idiots here  
at college, and I understand your point completely.

> write one of the major paintball magazines about it.  Maybe get the IPPA to
> denounce the field (if the field owner was passing out the beer).

Or, if there were any minors present, have him arrested.

> Just plain stupid

Agreed.

Derek
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
From: henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan)
Subject: Re: Mail-order paintball equipment suppliers
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 21:18:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: PANIX - Public Access Unix Systems of NY

In article <12543@umd5.umd.edu> stephen@snoopy.umd.edu (Tim Stephen) writes:
>Hi,
>   I'm interested in addresses and/or phone numbers of PB equip suppliers.
>If you've had good luck with a company please post. Thanks
>
I whole heartedly reccomend I&I Sports (in LA, CA 1-310-715-6800).  The service
is sound and informative.
The prices are reasonable and you can be assured of buying the originals, not
copycats or other rip-off look-a-likes.  Periodically they'll send you their
latest newsletter-cum price list.  I live on the East Coast and know that I
can get faster service by ordering from mail-order houses that are closer to 
me.  When I needed a fill-station for my Bulk tank and had no idea of telling
the good ones from the bad or knowing what I needed to operate a safe fill,
I&I Sports were able to help me.

 Paintball Sports of Maryland advertised the lowest prices in print but I had 
bad experiences with them.
1-in tiny print-their prices are subject to change, unless you ask, don't assume
 One of my friends ordered a Crossfire helmet set, they charged him a higher pr
ice than listed in the ad.  They claim the prices in the ad were old.  This was
in Febuary, now its April and the same ads and same prices are still being shown
.  
2-There is a 3% charge for credit card use.
On a order that we estimated at $110(postage included), the price adjustments and CC charges added an extra $16.
3-I have yet to recieve their 10 page price list or monthly flyer specials

Paintball Mania Sports (PMS) I don't remember their # or address 
-issues no catalog, only photo flyers, and a price sheet
-You are buying sight unseen. So know your products well.  I once ordered a LED
point sight from them.  Didn't turn out to be what I expected.
-Has the lowest prices on most items-if you don't mind in-house manufactured
I bought my Viewloader from them for $16
as far as I know, they are the sole distributor of the Beast(all plastic p-ball
gun from Britain) and some new pump-action gun from Brazil.

Z
Paintball Mania Sports in St. Louis (don't have
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Henryc@panix.com
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
From: henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan)
Subject: Tippmann new semi-auto
Summary: huh?
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 04:51:17 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Keywords: Its a Tippmann

Has anyone had a chance to handle the new Tippmann Pro/Am semi-auto?
Tippmann has a two page ad in the May issue of APG magazine.  The ad lists
the fine points of the new gun; mainly over 400 shots off a 7 oz tank,
the new barrel and valve that cuts down groups sizes at 100' by 50%.
The Pro/Am has the familiar silhouette of the SL-68 II.  The gun comes with 
a plastic carrying case, owner's manual and maintenance video.

Tippmann guns are known for their unconditional factory warranties to fix
any defect with no cost to the owner. But I haven't heard much about the
accuracy or shootability of their guns on ASP.  The 68 Specials and the SL-68 II
are some of the most widely marketed p-ball guns around yet surprisingly little 
is heard about them on ASP.

-- 
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signature it would contain my name, e-mail address, university, and probably an
interesting little quote.  Remember, this is only a test.
Henryc@panix.com
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
From: aktan@rodan.acs.syr.edu (My name is Andre...)
Subject: Stuff (Was Re: Light Sight 800)
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 00:36:57 EDT

In article <1992Apr4.183555.9358@cs.rose-hulman.edu> alejanrd@victoria.cs.rose-hulman.edu (Raymond D. Alejandro) writes:
>In article <1992Apr2.120318.29261@newstand.syr.edu>, aktan@rodan.acs.syr.edu (My name is Andre...) writes:
>|> But that brings up the idea of sights in general.  I
>|> personally feel that sights are wholly unnecessary, and are more of
>|> an ornamental "Bad-Ass" addition to a gun.  Of course.. That is my opinion.
>|> 
>|>  < ANDRE >
>|> --
>
>While I do agree with Andre that sights are a "Bad-Ass" addition to a gun, and
>can give a pyschological edge to the owner, I do not think that they are totally
>unnecessary.
>
>My Pirhana LB has a barrel extension and silencer.  Both of these add-ons make
>the existing sights unusable.  Since the Pirhana is a very good sniping weapon, I
>found it imperative to have a some sort of aiming cue.
>
>As Andre said in his, that was his opinion, and this is my opinion.
>
>
>Ray Alejandro
>
>
>P.S.  You know, this is the only news group that I read that does not have
>continous existing flame wars everywhere.  It is refreshing to know that a bunch
>of people who enjoy stalking around in the woods shooting people with weapons of
>with the potential to cause sight threating injuries do not feel compelled to
>insult and badger each other.  I really appreciate that.  Thanks.

NO... I'M THE RIGHT ONE!! YOU ARE WRONG AND A JERK TOO!! :}
Wow.. gee.. I'm glad we finally got our newsfeed back... I just wanted
to make sure that my post asking about the Bud Orr Autococker got out, cuz
like I said.. our news has been on the fritz... Does anyone have first
hand knowledge about the AutoCocker?? I need another gun to play with, and
seeing that my team is planning on getting into some even more serious
amateur tournaments.. I want a spare in case one or the other dies on me.

Well.. like I said before.. I just want some info on what people think
of the AutoCocker's accuracy, reliabilty, etc.. etc...  I know someone has
one out there.. it said so on the poll...  I'd appreciate any response..

 < ANDRE >
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From: robert@isgtec.com (Robert Osborne)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: rifled barrels and the like
Date: 9 Apr 92 12:52:44 GMT

cn0t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Craig David Nemecek) writes:
> I agree that 14" is about the longest that a barrel should be.  Barrel
> length is going to change accuracy a lot more than rifling.  I've played
> with rifled barrels, and they don't add much to accuracy.  I have a
> friend who swears by rifling, but I can't justify rifling.  Upgrading
> from 6" to 12" or 14" would be a much better idea.

Another quick way to improve accuracy is to hone the barrel.
This removes all the internal scratchs, nicks and flaws and
the balls don't spin as much (and fly true).

Rob.
--
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From: robinson@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: GZ2000
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:33:06 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Anyone out there have a GZ2000?  I saw one the other day.  For those who 
don't know what it is, it is the GZ1000 modified to be a double action 
semi-auto with either 12gr quick change or CA.  

If you've got one, what do you think of it re:  price/performance etc.
-- 
John Robinson                  Only criminals, tyrants, and cowards have
robinson@ac.dal.ca                 reason to fear the armed, honest citizen.
DOD #0069
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 15 Apr 1992 21:21:02 CDT
From: DMc <U53306@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Network of College Paintball Clubs

UIC will field a team to play any nearby (i.e. less than 4 hours away)
school.  Any inquiries on play should be sent to me via e-mail.
we would be interested in getting a school tournament going.

due to the disposition of money amongst most of our players,
notice of less than 2 weeks for a game would mean we prolly could not
play.

Dave McCarty <u53306@uicvm.uic.edu> <mccarty@earth.eecs.uic.edu>
Paintballer Extraordinaire  (HA!)  F.Y.B.I.P.P.B.  IPPA #5666
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
From: albertw@netcom.com (Albert Wong)
Subject: Re: Light Sight 800
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 92 19:20:32 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Apr4.183555.9358@cs.rose-hulman.edu> alejanrd@victoria.cs.rose-hulman.edu (Raymond D. Alejandro) writes:
>
>P.S.  You know, this is the only news group that I read that does not have
>continous existing flame wars everywhere.

Heh, you missed the great "what's the best semi-auto debate" ^_^


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From: gb@cup.portal.com (Greg A Buechler)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: International Paintball?
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 14:54:16 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

I'm interested in talking to players and would-be paintball players around
the world.  I'm looking to see what the total market is for the game and
to see who in other countries may be interested in having distributin rights
for a line of paintball guns.

If you are an international player or know of them.  SEND SOME INFO ON YOUR
SELF (i.e., country, team info, availability of equipment, etc.)  I'm VERY
serious about this!

Greg Buechler     gb@cup.portal.com   408-481-0106(day)  510-659-1552(eves)

408-481-0106 (day)
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:10:22 -0400 
From: Troy Franklin Tinsman <tt1m+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Laser sight (Was: Light Sight 800)
	<1992Apr9.033606.20620@csusac.csus.edu>
Distribution: usa



As far as laser sights go:  

Yeah, there seems to be a lot of fear among many paintball players that
they'll go blind if anybody's got a laser sight out there.  This is
definitely NOT SO.  I have a friend who took his LaserAim LA1 (a fairly
powerful sight; Range : 500 meters) and directly shined it in his eye
for somewhere around 40 seconds. He still has the best vision I've seen.
 

 Besides that, when lasers  hit goggles (At least for JT Snappers) the
beam diffuses in the goggles, giving the effect of a red flashlight. 
Any danger and intense beam might have produced goes away.

I personally own a LaserAim LA5.  It's really neat and compact; great
for indoors/twilight/night playing. For regular daylight,  however,  it
is by no means visible.  

Lasers are fun, plus add a cool dimension and intimidation power to your
game.  But considering their cost and limitations, I wouldn't really
bother with them unless you plan to use them on a real gun later.  

                                                                        
                                  That's my input, 
                                                                        
                                                FRANK
From: wwg2101@zeus.tamu.edu (GILPIN, W.W.)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: More Alcohol <hic!>
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:03:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Go to the grocery store and buy yourself one of those 99 cent squirt bottles
and a couple of 89 cent bottles of alcohol. Fill the squirt bottle. Set it 
to spray, not stream. Remove your barrel, squirt a few high-powered blasts
of alcohol in it, and squeegee the excess out. This can also be used to
clean the rest of your gun by setting it to stream and squirting in the
various openings. Then use a spray-oil to lubricate it. Works great.

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Newsgroups: alt.parents-teens
From: AS.DCB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Dan Blomquist)
Subject: Re: Minors right of access to contraceptives?
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 16:03:19 GMT

In article <za1jn_l.rfelix@netcom.com>,
rfelix@netcom.com (Robbie Felix) writes:

The following has some things in it which I am going to e-mail
Robbie about - she is getting personal and using some terms which I
feel are better left between us.

>
>>>Fred, this isn't about civil liberties. What is being advocated isn't
>>>some sequel to the 1960's Free Love genre.
>>>
>>>Bob Kirkpatrick
>>
>DAN>>I disagree about being a sequel to the 60's Free love  era.
>DAN>How can we teach our kids any morals about sex when we don't
>DAN>practice them ourselves?
>
>The sad truth here is that what kids hear is not "use some morals",
>they hear the message "use my morals". I practice lots of "morals"
>that I consider fundamental. They probably do not even remotely
>resemble what would you would deem "moral" for you and your life.
>
>I am not married. I live with a man "in sin". I doubt from your
>previous posts that that would fit your idea of acceptable FOR YOU.
>
>I absolutely love him with all my heart. If he were ever to decide that
>he was not happy living with me, I would continue to love him and I
>would let him go and get on with living life without him.
>There is no way anyone can guarantee that a marriage won't fail, a
>spouse won't die etc. Many people are married to addictive persons,
>abusers, or even "unequally yoked" to "sinners".
>
>DAN>Abstinence may not be the answer for some
>DAN>but how about ONE partner for LIFE.  Diseases don't get passed
>DAN>around when you don't pass your body around!
>
>It is easy to be a middle-class white heterosexual, married to someone
>who shares your views on religion, morals, etc and judge everyone who
>is in a less fortunate situation.
>
>For those who are poor, gay, married to people who are not ideal
>mates, widowed, or for someone else *WHO DOES NOT SHARE YOUR GOOD
>FORTUNE*, this may not be a realistic option.
>
>Diseases don't get passed around when you responsibly use condoms to
>protect your partner, either.
>
>Diseases are always a sad fact of life. They are not punishment for
>immoral behavior. They are opportunistic little lifeforms who take
>advantage of our ignorance and our denial.
>
>I say again, I applaud the person who uses condoms to prevent the
>spread of disease. I applaud those who choose abstinence to prevent
>the spread of disease. I abhor the ignorance and denial that leads to
>the practice of unsafe sex. I hope it is never an option for anyone.
>
>rf
Xref: sparky alt.parents-teens:650 alt.child-support:1150
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Tuesday, 14 Apr 1992 13:24:32 EDT
From: <34L2EZC@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.parents-teens,alt.child-support
Subject: Re: starting a family young.

I must say you are a great guy.  One of my friends was pregnant and her 23yr
 old boyfriend left her.  Luckily her parents were very supportive.  Having
 children young is not a mistake its an experience of a lifetime and one you'll
 never forget or regret.
Newsgroups: alt.parents-teens
From: AS.DCB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Dan Blomquist)
Subject: Re: Minors right of access to contraceptives?
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 15:31:53 GMT

In article <kujv2hINN2ag@alhena.usc.edu>,
ajayshah@alhena.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) writes:
>mrharri@jake.cc.wayne.edu (Marissa Harrison) writes:
>
>>>       i)  The Catholic religion does not allow sex before marriage
>>>  and believe their children should not be exposed to this.
>
>We left the dark ages, threw off the yoke of religion, have come to
>the end of what is probably the greatest century in human history,
>we've built great computers, and built an Internet... all for this?
>
>        -ans.
>--
>Ajay Shah, (213)749-8133, ajayshah@usc.edu

Right - and look at where we are today.  STD's that defy medical
treatment.  AIDS which can not be controlled because the people with
AIDS can not control themselves. "I don't care what it costs or who
I hurt - I want to live my life the way I want to and nobody is
going to stop me!"

"Nobody" cares about the other person anymore - it is a "Me
generation world"...

Dan
Newsgroups: alt.parents-teens
From: whos@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Ben Feen)
Subject: Re: runaways
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 04:09:55 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.145547.9151@ll.mit.edu> yasu@ll.mit.edu (Alan Yasutovich) writes:
>
>
>	I've been seeing this subject in the background.  I never
>	threatened of though of running away as a teen, but my sister
>	did.  When she did, my father would simply say (usually yell),
>	"Go ahead. Do it now.  I'll help you pack your bags!"
>
>	She never did.  I think this works.  

NO!!!!    That sort of thing works SOMETIMES, but it ALSO closes communication
channels and sometimes makes things worse, because the teen feels even MORE
alienated.   Jesus, this sort of thing is about 50 years out of date.
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Newsgroups: alt.parents-teens
From: yasu@ll.mit.edu (Alan Yasutovich)
Subject: runaways
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 14:55:47 GMT



	I've been seeing this subject in the background.  I never
	threatened of though of running away as a teen, but my sister
	did.  When she did, my father would simply say (usually yell),
	"Go ahead. Do it now.  I'll help you pack your bags!"

	She never did.  I think this works.  
-- 
	Alan Yasutovich
	"inquiring  (and nosey) minds WANT TO KNOW!!!"
	I can remember when "safe sex" meant having a padded headboard!!
	Tick Tock.....Tick Tock......Tick Tock .....Tick Tock......
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