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From: Carol.Cunningham@f6506.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Cunningham)
Newsgroups: k12.lang.art
Subject: Re: GRAMMAR
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 06:49:36 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/6506 - BBS AMERICA/3RS BBS, Richardson TX

Hi Jim,
   I do believe that improved writing skills does require a knowledge of verbs, agreement of subject and verb, adjectives, adverbs etc. Certainly we want students to be effective writers and speakers. Being able to write effectively is very important. You must know how words fit together in order to do this. Students must be given the opportunity to do a lot of writing, but they must have the tools to write with.
                                           Sincerely,

                                           Carol Cunningham


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From: Carol.Cunningham@f6506.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Cunningham)
Newsgroups: k12.lang.art
Subject: Re: GRAMMAR
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 10:05:31 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/6506 - BBS AMERICA/3RS BBS, Richardson TX

Hi Rod,
   I am a private tutor in Irving, TX and have a degree in English. I do hope that the book or books you will be using stress grammar. Far too many of the students that I get at your grade level and beyond cannot do such seemingly simple things as pick out the subject and verb of a sentence let alone direct objects, predicate nouns, etc. Please stess grammar with them and once they have covered one particular area, do go back to make sure that they are still remembering. Grammar is important and a certain 



amount of memorization is required such as rules, definitions etc.  Good luck in your new endeavor. I hope to talk with you again. Please let me know how the new semester goes.

                                Sincerely,

                                Carol Cunningham


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From: Rod.Ramsell@f2051.n147.z1.fidonet.org (Rod Ramsell)
Newsgroups: k12.lang.art
Subject: GRAMMAR
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 13:35:31 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:147/2051 - The O.U. BBS, Norman OK

 Howdy, I will be teaching a language arts course in 7th grade this semester and thought it might be interesting to use this bulletin board somehow.  Any ideas?  Also, what's the latest recommendations on teaching traditional grammar?  It's been a while since I've been in the elementary classroom.      Rod Ramsell


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From: Carolyn.Boyd@f921.n720.z6.fidonet.org (Carolyn Boyd)
Newsgroups: k12.lang.art
Subject: Re: storytelling
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 12:09:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 6:720/921 - World Data Exchange, Taipei Taiwan

My idea for a discussion of storytelling revolved around: exchange of titles and sources for stories, info about storytelling events, special interests, (esp. research tips) and ideas for using storytelling in the classroom.  In March I am giving a presentation for the Taipei Phi Delta Kappa = Storytelling: The Material, Method and Me. The Material = storytelling as a vehicle for literature, method = storytelling as a teaching/reading/writing tool and me = st as a way to develop the teacher/student relatio




nship through personal storying. I would like to hear any examples or ideas that flow out of this.  Nice to meet you Jim.s



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From: John.Mclaughlin@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (John Mclaughlin)
Newsgroups: k12.lang.art
Subject: Re: HI
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 14:01:32 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

Hi Laura.  I always enjoy turning on my computer to find a message from you. 
 Your program seems ot be going really well.  I would say that I am having a 
lot more success with writing than reading.  I have four students who I am 
encouraging to enter contests and/or try to get work publishedbut I don't 
really know where to send this stuff to.  I am going to try Merlyn's Pen and 
|Scholastic Scope but I don't really have any other addresses.  Do you have 
anything you could share with me?  These students have written some pretty 
nice poetry.  I'd appreciate any input.

I started my new reading logs.  I'm calling them L:earning Journals.  There 
will be room for repsonses of current events discussions, as well as for 
writing ideas, etc.

Gotta run.  The kids in my class are itching to get on.  They are 
communicating with students around the world and having a wonderufl time at 
it.

Talk to you later.

John

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From: Janice.Kibbe@f302.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Janice Kibbe)
Newsgroups: k12.lang.art
Subject: puppet&puppeteers
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 08:17:48 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/302 - SpaceMet South 1, Holyoke MA

     I for one would be very happy to talk about puppeteering.  As a prior owner to a pre-school I have applied for Arts Lottery grants to have a puppet troup visit the pre-school.  We saw wonderful productions and have made some very simple but exciting puppet shows of our own.  I would love to learn more about using puppets in the classroom.
     Once I did a shadow box puppet show about the Pilgrims and Mayflower.  It took a lot of time to put it all together but the kids loved it.
     When my kids were younger we subscribed to the New England Puppetry Series in Springfield, MA.  They put onome wonderful productions.  Have you ever seen or heard of them?


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From: Clarence.Hamilton@f462.n3625.z1.fidonet.org (Clarence Hamilton)
Newsgroups: k12.lang.art
Subject: puppets
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 20:58:50 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3625/462 - The World According, Mobile AL

janice, 
yes i have read of them in the poa journal. the new england area has may guilds. what state are you in? do you have a local guild?
enjoyed the reply from you...
goodluck!


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From: John.Brittingham@f58.n343.z1.fidonet.org (John Brittingham)
Newsgroups: k12.lang.art
Subject: Less "normal" Languages
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 13:30:11 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/58 - Silver Lake, Everett WA

Yes I would... I'm just a beginner so feel free to correct me any time ... It
 would be an excellent challenge... I understand that Scots Gailic is much the
 same as Irish and that Welsh is much the same as Bretton... Is this fact?

I began an interest in Irish Gaelic when I became interested in Celtic art
 about a year ago.. I have Mr Jim Fitzpatrick to thank for that... After I
 began reading some of the old tales, I wanted to be able to understand some of
 the poetry as well... After the encouragement of my family and a little look
 into the family tree I was hooked.. But I have had no one with any similar
 interest so it has been slow going... The tapes I have are great but They
 can't tell me when I am Mistaken. I also have been trying to do some reseach
 on the Brettons but have not had much luck in that.. My name is supposedly
 Bretton but most of my ancestry is Irish/Scot ... The other names being Herron
 ( Americanised sp.) and Doakes ( the same) But I am Rambling...
But yes I would enjoy writing to some one with similar interests... May have
 to switch to pen and paper though as my "normal" Profession is as a seaman.
 It's hard to use a modem at sea. ( Not impossible but at about $10.00 a min)
As for other languages. Well I have an interest in latin. Studied some for a
 short time in elementary school (A LOOONNNGG Time ago.) But right now think I
 have bitten off enough for a time. I do read enough french to understand a
 nautical chart but thats about it.
Well best get off this thing and back to my studio. Hope to hear from you
 soon.
                                       Oiche mhaith,
                                               John


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From: Jim.Lagerquist@f80.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Lagerquist)
Newsgroups: k12.lang.art
Subject: Re: GRAMMAR
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 19:06:22 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/80 - Auburn Ed-Net, Auburn WA

Carol - Please provide me with some rationale as to why you consider the teaching of grammar to be such a high priority.  It seems to me that the main purpose for teaching grammar is to provide a common vocabulary between teacher/student for the purpose of responding to student writing and possibly as a means for "teaching" speaking skills.  If this is the case, then grammar should be taught in these contexts.  Requiring students to identify parts of speech in isolation seems unnecessary to me  if improved



 writing and speaking skills is what we're seeking.  What do you think?


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From: Ronjohn.Ayers@f509.n2613.z1.fidonet.org (Ronjohn Ayers)
Newsgroups: k12.lang.art
Subject: Meredith Guerin
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 20:45:14 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2613/509 - LOGIC Systems, Rochester NY

Hello.. I'm taking my time to write this message from my Language Teacher to
all:My name is Meredeth Guerin and I teach seventh grade in Victor, NY.
I teach Language Arts, so I really get to knwo and enjoy my students through
their writings. I have taught for 28 years, and I still think I have the best
job in the world. I love 7th Graders!!
    I am married to Mr. Paul ( I call him that) and I don't have any children.
However we do have three dogs Sam Mya and Kowdy. We refer to them as our "kido".
    I would be interested in hearing from anyone who cares to respond.
                                Sincerely,
                                    Meredeth Guerin


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From: Rod.Ramsell@f2051.n147.z1.fidonet.org (Rod Ramsell)
Newsgroups: k12.lang.art
Subject: GRAMMAR
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 21:29:03 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:147/2051 - The O.U. BBS, Norman OK

Janice... Thanks for responding to my message.  I wasn't sure this bulletin board was "for real".  I'll take your advice.  My pet peave is teaching grammar for the sake of grammar.  I figure if you can't put it to good use in producing something besides busy work, why bother?  I've met with two classes so far and am really enjoying it.  Rod


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From: Lisa.Clark@p0.f51.n140.z1.fidonet.org (Lisa Clark)
Newsgroups: k12.lang.art
Subject: Re: sports
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 17:23:13 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:140/51.0 - SaskTel P.A.C.M.I.D, Prince Albert Sask

I hope you can speak english as well as you do french.
I'm lisa clark and i love sports too.
I like hockey... Chicago Blackhawks... Ottawa Senators... Pittsburg Penguins.
I love baseball... Toronto Blue Jays... Antlanta Braves... Oaklanbd A's... California Angles
I like football... Georgetown Hoya's... L.A Raiders.
I play tennis, football, basketball, bowl, swim, hockey, baseball and lots and lots more.
 
Write back to me soon will ya'.
fr.lis 


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From: Rod.Ramsell@f2051.n147.z1.fidonet.org (Rod Ramsell)
Newsgroups: k12.lang.art
Subject: RE: GRAMMAR
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 21:32:56 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:147/2051 - The O.U. BBS, Norman OK

Carol... Thanks for responding to my message.  I have met with the class twice so far and I already know what you are talking about.  I'm trying to make the grammar useful in the students' writing and speaking.  I've told them I want them to learn the basics so we can talk about our writing in terms we understand.  So far, so good!  I think I'm going to enjoy the change from my usual administration duties.     Rod Ramsell


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From: Amanda.Mosen@f20.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Amanda Mosen)
Newsgroups: k12.lang.art
Subject: Maori language and legen
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 01:08:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/20 - IBM NZ Ltd Gate, Auckland

Hi Fiona,
I am a new entrants teacher at Papakura Normal Primary in South
Auckland.   I am right behind you in your project to share the wonderful
ledgends of Aotearoa with children from around the world, and in return
to find out more about their cultures through swapping other myths and
ledgends.   If you need any support or assistance, please drop me a
line.

Ka kite anoo,
Amanda.
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From: Laura.Ruby@p0.f14.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Laura Ruby)
Newsgroups: k12.lang.art
Subject: Re: HI
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 14:55:33 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/14.0 - Room 5, Bonners Ferry ID

John, yes, I wondered how you'd survive 300 pieces of writing to go through in a short time.  I'll have to admit there are times when I appreciate my lazy kids, the ones who don't get around to handing in much work.  But that's only when I'm busy being stessed out.  The ones I really appreciate are the ones who work hard and want to learn. There are SOME like that.
 
Lit logs.  I'm not about to consider mine a failure, but for some of the students I suppose I'd have to say that.  I follow Atwell's
rules, requiring the students to write a minimum of once a week, and to me at least every other week.  A majority of them write in the logs part of the time.  Maybe half of them make it every week.  I grade down considerably if they don't meet the minimum requirement. 
 Apparently a number of them don't care that much.  Successes:  Yes! 
 A fair number of my 150 students have come to the point of doing 
some literary analysis in their letters.  Not anything major yet, but they are thinking in that direction.
 
When I'm tempted to feel down about my classes, I remind myself of how much more the students are reading and writing than they would be in the more traditional English classroom setting.  They have to be learning more by doing than not doing.  I've had a number of kids who refuse to do nothing at all in my previous two years.  At least this year they are each doing at least some writing and reading.
 
I have about five of my crew who have written some fairly good stories to enter in a national contest coming up.  What a pleasure to work with them as they put themselves into revision and rewriting with a vengence.
 
I don't think my reading program would work if I didn't give the students time to read in class.  It gives many of them enough time reading to get hooked on the stories and then they go on and read at home too.  Of course, some only read during class, but, still they are reading.  A few of my students have read between 40 and 50 books already this year.  A few have only read 4 or 5.  I don't think any have read fewer than four though.
 
Back to the lit log.  I try NOT to sound teachery.  It is easiest to write when I've also read the book they write about.  That isn't always the case.
 
I'd better hang up before it is too obvious that I'm kind of scattery today.
Laura 


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From: ddickey@aspen34.cray.com (Dan A. Dickey)
Subject: Unused Color PC Monitor?
Originator: ddickey@aspen34
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 8 Jan 93 10:33:46 CST


Hi...I was wondering if anyone out there had an unused pc monitor,
color.  I have a monochrome monitor on an ega card in my old leading
edge pc, and want to "upgrade" to a color monitor.  If anyone has
something they'd be willing to give away, trade, or sell; send me some
email.  I want to do this "cheap".  :-)  Thanks.	-Dan
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From: derekt@stpaul.gov (Derek Terveer)
Subject: is this Hitachi monitor compatible with Diamond Stealth VRAM card?
Organization: City of St. Paul Public Works
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:28:49 GMT

We just bought a Diamond stealth VRAM card (super vga card) w/1MB for a
compaq 386-20 which has an attached Hitachi HM-4615-D-BC-3W color
monitor that used to driven by a verticom card.  When driven the diamon
card it just displays a bunch of scrunched up random dots on the screen
and i was starting to wonder if this monitor is even a VGA monitor and
thus incompatible with the vga card.  Does anyone know?  The monitor
has seperate R/G/B/HV-H/V inputs and is prety old.  No one knows where
the documentation is for this monitor or what it is -- it just used to
work with the verticom driver, that's all.  If it isn't compatible with
this card, then there is no point in me wasting time trying to get it
to work...

Any help appreciated,

derek
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From: clayh@uum1.mn.org (Clayton Haapala)
Subject: UUM1 fall down go boom.
Organization: UNIX Users of Minnesota
Distribution: mn
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:12:59 GMT

Hi, folks.

We have recently experienced a crash of the MN.Org Internet gateway, uum1.mn.org
which has delayed mail this past weekend.  None was lost, to my knowledge,
as it all sat queued on tcnet until uum1 was rebooted Monday morning.  Uum1
just experienced another crash/reboot just now (noon on Monday), but is back
up now.

We are looking into this, of course.  I just wanted to let you know of the
situation.

When uum1 goes down for a long time, mail still gets to mn.org via our good
friends at poincare at the U.  For short outages, the hosts on the Internet
just wait and try again.  Not to worry, as they say.

Note that this is not at all related to the spate of "late" mail that some
folks received last week, dated some time in November.  That was from another
MN.Org site that had been down a while, or at least not connecting to tcnet.

Thank you for your attention.  Now back to our regularly scheduled chaos.


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Newsgroups: mn.general
Subject: Patrick Swayze X-Mas Announcement
From: jenkins@local.host (Lisa Jenkins)
Date: 7 Jan 93 13:30:23 -0600
Reply-To: jenkins@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu
Organization: Organization, City, State, etc.


                       PATRICK SWAYZE X-MAS ANNOUNCEMENT


Many of you may have been aware of plans for a "Patrick Swayze X-Mas" event 
which was to be held at The Padded Cellar in Minneapolis to honor the cast and 
crew of _Mystery Science Theater 3000_.

This announcement formally declares the cancellation of the event.  All funds 
are being returned to the generous people who donated them.

If you have any questions about the event and its cancellation, please contact 
me at the following address:


                                 Lisa Jenkins
                         1603 Thirteenth Street South
                        Moorhead, Minnesota 56560-3734
                                     *-*-*
                        jenkins@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu
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From: chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Erik Funkenbusch)
Newsgroups: mn.general
Subject: Looking for 3 bedroom House for Rent
Date: 8 Jan 93 11:45:07 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

Hi, I'm looking for a 3 bedroom house to rent, availability should be sometime
in the spring (say, aprilish..)

Primarily i'm looking for south-suburb locations, fairly close to a major
highway.  Bloomington would be ideal, though Eagan, or Eden Prarie might be
considered.

I'm not looking for anything plush or expensive, just a decent (things work)
modest place.

Please email me if you know of/have such a dwelling available about that time.

Erik Funkenbusch
chucks@pnet51.mn.org
From: stevej@pillock.moron.vware.mn.org (Steven Jarosh, KA0VYB)
Newsgroups: mn.general
Subject: RE: Novell and USL
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 14:24:47 CST
Organization: 11th Hour Contest Group (North American Chapter)

dougm@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Doug Mcintyre) writes:

> det@hawkmoon.mn.org (Derek Terveer) writes:
> >
> >I just heard on "Market Place" (a popular business program on 91.1FM)
> >that AT&T has swapped Unix System Laboratories for some stock or
> >something with Novell.  Can anyone verify this?  I'm not exactly sure I
> >like the sound of it if it's true...
> >
> >derek
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> >"Big business and big government distract us with entertainment;
> > they manufacture our consent while we destroy the environment."
> 
> 
>         It was in the paper a day or two ago.. Of course, since the Strib
> reports down to everybody, we'll have to wait for the trade papers to come ou
> next week to report details..
> 
> 
> INET: dougm@pnet51.orb.mn.org                                GENIE: D.MCINTYR


Basically, Novell bought Unix from 
Basically, Novell bought Unix from AT&T.  Won't it be interesting to see 
where Unix goes now!!

Steve KA0VYB
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From: alexa@county.lmt.mn.org (Alex Alexander)
Subject: WANTED: Guns N' Roses Fargo Ticket
Followup-To: mn.general
Organization: LaserMaster Technologies
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 19:14:31 GMT


I am looking for a single Row 1, Row 2 or Row 3 ticket to the March 21 Guns
N' Roses concert in Fargo. I will pay *top dollar* for it.

mail me at

alexa@county.lmt.mn.org

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7156 Shady Oak Rd.      G|R   (which would no doubt disavow everything
Minneapolis, MN 55344    N'   I have ever said on the net or in person).
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From: lpaul@krissy.msi.umn.edu (Paul Morin)
Subject: SGI, Sun, Mac Monitor for Sale
Reply-To: lpaul@krissy.msi.umn.edu (Paul Morin)
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:55:39 GMT

For Sale:


4D/20 G with:  ($3000)

	1 12 MHZ IP6 Processor
	FPU: MIPS R2010A/R3010 VLSI Floating Point Chip Revision: 2.0
	CPU: MIPS R2000A/R3000 Processor Chip Revision: 2.0	
	On-board serial ports: 2
	Data cache size: 32 Kbytes
	Instuction cache size: 64 Kbytes
	Main memory size: 16 Mbytes
	Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 0
	Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0
	Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93A
	Graphics board: GR1.2 

	1.2 Gigabyte hard disk

Sun 3/60:   ($2500)

	20 meg RAM
	gfx graphics board
	300 meg hard drive
	8 bit color


Supermac 19" color monitor:  ($1500)

	Supermac graphics board


Contact Paul Morin (624-4831 afternoons) or E-mail lpaul@krissy.msi.umn.edu.

Newsgroups: mn.general
From: curt@quest.UUCP (Curtis Gibson)
Subject: Test
Organization: Quest Research, Inc.
Distribution: mn
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 20:57:07 GMT


This is a test. Had this been a real..... aw, screw it


Newsgroups: mn.general