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From: tom@uts.cc.wayne.edu (Thomas Richard Stevenson)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X Server for MS-Windows
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:29:36 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Wayne State Univ.

Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:18:23 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug18.151823.3287@uts.cc.wayne.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.ms,comp.windows.x

There is a file available by anonymous FTP at export.lcs.mit.edu called
/contrib/XServers-NonUNIX.txt.Z which lists a ton of different software
packages for the PC (and Mac) that run as xservers. It's a very good writeup.
From: philipr@extro.ucc.su.oz.au (Philip Rhoades)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Mac software on X-windows?
Date: 20 Aug 92 11:15:30 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia

Date: 20 Aug 92 06:08:00 GMT
Message-Id: <philipr.714290880@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


We are developing Mac hypercard and other software - does anyone know of
a method of running/converting this stuff to run on X-windows? I have heard
that a some software exists for hypercard stacks but don't know any details.

We are interested in the possibility of using both environments for
interactive teaching but doing the program developments on Macs.

Philip Rhoades
First Year Biology
Sydney University
phil@biox.bio.su.OZ.AU
philipr@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU
From: steve@mitl.com (Stephen Johnson)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Problem with button translation in text widget
Date: 21 Aug 92 03:51:50 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Matsushita Information Technology Laboratory, Princeton, NJ

Date: 17 Aug 1992 18:48:54 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug17.184854.18203@MITL.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I have an asciiText widget with a vertical scroll bar.  I have
translated a double click on button one as follows (summary is the
text widget) :

*summary*translations:	#override		\n\
	<Btn1Up>(2):	select-start() showSelection()

This works fine except when I want to use button one on the scrollbar
to scroll through the window.  In that case nothing happens.  What is
the way out of this problem?
				Steve
				steve@mitl.com
From: azuelos@nuri.inria.fr (Daniel  AZUELOS)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: [7mX11r5[0m server / Sony [7m!![0m
Date: 15 Aug 92 06:59:09 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: INRIA * Rocquencourt BP 105 * F-78153 LE CHESNAY CEDEX* France

Date: 14 Aug 92 23:45:58 GMT
Message-Id: <4075@seti.UUCP>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


Where to find an X11r5 server for Sony news3400.
Any idea, or pointer, would be appreciated.

Please reply by mail, and I'll post a sumary if it's interesting.
Thanks for your help.

Dan				[7m:-)[0m
From: obourdon@france.sun.com (Olivier Bourdon - Sun ICNC)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: How to block input for a particular XView application
Date: 17 Aug 92 14:29:44 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: SunConnect

Date: 17 Aug 1992 11:29:36 GMT
Message-Id: <l8v3d0INNrui@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>
Newsgroups: sun.open-windows,alt.toolkits.xview,comp.windows.open-look,comp.windows.x

I have an application with a main window and some another windows (not popups but
it does not matter as the main window is the XV_OWNER of the secondary ones).
I have a button in one of the secondary window which is supposed to do a SAVE of some
internal data structure in a file and this operation may take a long time.

I managed to recover the full hierarchy of windows and set each of the frames
I found to a busy state but if I click on any item in my interface while all
frames are in busy=true state then all my events are still buffered and I don't
wnat this.

Second, I tried to modify the WIN_X_EVENT_MASK of the frames I set to busy
but it does not prevent events to occur within let's say panels contained by those frames.
I don't want to store a table of win/frame/panels with their X_EVENT_MASKS and restore
this list after the SAVE is completed.

Is there some XView /XLib functionality that I missed ?

Thanks for any answer/pointer
Olivier

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From: mfc1493@zeus.tamu.edu (Ratboy)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: PRIVATE MESSAGE FOR HARRY MANDELL
Date: 19 Aug 92 00:25:23 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services

Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:10:00 GMT
Message-Id: <18AUG199216102811@zeus.tamu.edu>
Newsgroups: misc.forsale,alt.sex,comp.windows.x,rec.humor,misc.jobs.misc,alt.good.news,alt.postmodern,rec.pets.dogs,talk.politics.guns,soc.singles

Sorry about the cross-posts to all the newsgroups. It was a follow-up, one
on many that day, and I was in a hurry. I didn't type them in the header
and would have removed them if I had seen them. Blame Craig Hamm. It was his 
original post, as you know...again I apollogize.

Ratboy
From: afshwrh@cid.aes.doe.ca (Wayne Hodgins)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: jump relocation out-of-range
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:30:55 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Environment Canada (CMC), Dorval, QC

Date: 19 Aug 92 12:57:03 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug19.125703.7774@cid.aes.doe.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Hi

When I attempt to compile & load the following code...

#include <Xm/Xm.h>
#include <X11/Intrinsic.h>
#include <X11/StringDefs.h>
#include <X11/Shell.h>
.....
	Widget toplevel;
	XtAppContext app_context;
.....
        toplevel = XtAppInitialize(&app_context,"XText",NULL,
                   0, &argc, argv, NULL, NULL, 0);
.....

I get this message from ld...

/usr/lib/libX11.a(XlibInt.o): jump relocation out-of-range, bad object file prod
uced, can't jump from 0x4d51e8 to 0x10048428 (syscall)

The code loads fine as a standalone test program; the message occurs when
I try to incorporate it into an existing larger program.
Any ideas on what the problem may be?
From: dob@inel.gov (Dave Brooks)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: AthenaTools Plotter Widget Set Version 6.0
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:18:16 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 12:25:37 -0600
Message-Id: <9208181825.AA22830@mijen.inel.gov>


Hi everybody,

I'm in the process of downloading from Denmark (or domain '.de') the
recently announced tools mentioned in the subject.  Since this link is NOT
fast, if you have a little patience, I can be the only one clobbering
transatlantic traffic.  I'll upload to export when done, hopefully soon.

I already email'd the author to let him know.

Best regards,
dave
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Idaho National Engineering Lab.  INTERNET: dob@INEL.GOV
POB 1625 MS 2603                 Phone: (208) 526-0826
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From: gcusanza@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Gregory M. Cusanza)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Reliability of Galaxy and Open Interface
Date: 14 Aug 92 08:52:41 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, CSc Department

Date: 14 Aug 92 03:40:15 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug14.034015.8866@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open_look,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif,comp.software-eng,comp.windows.misc


Our software team is currently in the process of deciding on a portable 
GUI toolkit to be used for the development of graphics intensive software 
for the California Department of Transportation.  Our decision's been
narrowed down to Visix's Galaxy and Neuron Data's Open Interface.

At this point we are looking for information on the stability of both
products.  Can anyone who has used either product comment on what you have
found?  Did you come across any bugs in either the development tools or the
libraries?  

Please response to the address below by e-mail.  Thanks for your help.

Greg Cusanza.
gcusanza@autobahn.ARDFA.CalPoly.EDU 
Applied Research and Development, Cal Poly.
From: sinan@mtesol.boeing.com (Sinan Karasu)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Why is initial screen I/O so slow? (=NeWS!)
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:40:54 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 09:56:31 PDT
Message-Id: <9208131656.AA02794@mtesol>


> From: jme@c-art-w.wimsey.bc.ca (Yukon Kid)
> In article <1992Aug10.170900.6655@nenufar.saclay.cea.fr> basile@soleil.serma.cea.fr (Basile STARYNKEVITCH) writes:
> 
> .. (explains slow start-up of OW, explains NeWS)
> ..........
> |I was a (happy) former NeWS programmer - now i'm using X. Some rumors
> |I know that i'm currently dreaming... I still hope that i will not
>                                           ^^^^^^^^^^
> |program with X11 in 2010!! For multi-media, high resolution screens,
>   ^^^^^
> |X11 will be not enough (too much bandwidth, too hard to program).
> |
> | 
> | b) eventually X12, or any other successor of X11 (eg a programmable,
> |   enhanced 8 1/2 window server from Plan 9), will be some kind of
> |   programmable, and with an imaging model in between X11 (pixels) and
> |   NeWS (complex shapes).

I would bet all my money on Adobe DPS in OW4 and I would expect it before 
the year is out. I think those of us who stuck with OW instead of Motif
[ which was 550,000 SparcStations delivered by end of 1991 as opposed to
500,000 motif on ALL platforms by end of 1991 (See computer world July 20,1992)
Which means either all Motifs delivered are running on SparcStations,
(in which case Sun is benefitting from the companies who are supporting
OSF and Motif and there are "0" other brand workstations out there
(hardly the case) , or in the other extreme it is 550,000 OW and
500,000 Motif (in which case there are more OW installations out there).
The truth probably is somewhere in between(he said to be politically correct.)
I think the point is moot at this point however. I think the future belongs
to Adobe DPS , ToolTalk & Network Object Management (like in Tadpole)..]
will be finally rewarded. I have a vested interes in this also. Since 
I have a couple SparcStations at home, and Since I am trying to get ISDN
(right now I only have a 2400 baud Modem), I want to be able to do X/DPS-Windows
on ISDN/Modem. And I want it to operate fast. which what I hope
to be able to get from DPS.....
Sinan

Note: These are my opinions.... Don't confuse them with anybody elses
(except maybe with of those that actually originated them ...)
From: rjc@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Caley)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Need unobscurable window that moves obscuring windows
Date: 21 Aug 92 12:54:56 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Human Communication Research Center

Date: 17 Aug 92 17:41:56 GMT
Message-Id: <RJC.92Aug17184156@daiches.cogsci.ed.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Aug14.134333.26827@linus.mitre.org>, Craig Prall (cp) writes:

cp> I need to have a security classification banner at the top of my X
cp> display. Antisocial or not, it is a requirement that this window
cp> not be obscurable by other windows.

paper, glue, felt tip pen...

Anyone who has ever tried to raise a window over a post-it note stuck
on the screen knows how effective it is.

--
rjc@cogsci.ed.ac.uk	Tried to copy select from an emacs buffer onto
			an envelope on my deask last week.
From: Peter_Imants_Buttuls@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: No title in original
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:16:43 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 14:48:10 MDT
Message-Id: <3191691@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca>

Some time ago I asked a question why the following statements in my
.Xdefaults file don't work under Openwindows 3, while they work fine under
X on my SGI. (I want to know how I get the function keys below to put out
a character string when pressed) I wanted this to happen under cmdtool and
xterms running under olwm, but especially under cmdtool. I've tried putting
all variations of *CMdtool*Translations but to no avail. Can someone who
works for SUN perhaps bail me out or point me to the right documentation. 
THANKS.
 . 
# *VT100.Translations:	#override \
XTerm*VT100.Translations:	#override \
<Key> F1: scroll-back(1,page)\n\
<Key> F4: scroll-forw(1,page)\n\
<Key> F9: string("DEL") string(0x0d)\n\
<Key> F10: string("ABCD") string(0x0d)\n\
 
Peter Buttuls, University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
e-mail:(userpib@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca
From: raney@teal.csn.org (Scott Raney)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Communication between Motif apps using properties
Date: 14 Aug 92 09:43:15 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.

Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 03:27:43 GMT
Message-Id: <raney.713762863@teal>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

deveau@oceanroutes.ns.ca (Terry J. Deveau) writes:

>Meir Zaid (meir@tfs.com) writes:
>> 
>> I am writing a user interface that part of its job is to display
>> error messages received from other applications running on the same
>> machine.  The other apps communicating the messages to the user
>> interface using properties/atoms.  My problem is that all apps have
>> to share a widget because properties are associated with widgets.
>> I guess the most reasonable widget to use is the text widget in
>> which the errors are to be displayed.  But how can the other apps
>> know the widget ID of that window?
>> 
>Use shmget(2) and shmop(2).  See "Advanced Unix Programming" by Marc
>J. Rochkind, Section 7.7 (or any number of similar books) for a
>tutorial on how to use them.

This will work if the apps a running on the same machine, but is
probably not a good design for the future.

A better solution is to put a property on the root window advertising
the window id.  Just be sure to give it a big ugly name so that you
don't conflict with any of the other atoms in the root window property
soup.
  Scott
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From: lehors@koala.inria.fr (Arnaud Le Hors)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: XPM Question
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:44:31 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Koala Project, Bull Research France

Date: 20 Aug 92 12:25:23 GMT
Message-Id: <27455@sophia.inria.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <9208191402.AA26738@uahcs2.cs.uah.edu>, ldawes@uahcs2.cs.uah.EDU
(Lisa Dawes, Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Alabama-Huntsville) writes:
> 
> When using the Xpm function XpmReadFileToPixmap, does this function modify the
> colormap
> to support the requested colors in the xpm file?  Or does one have to specify
> a colormap
> with the appropriate colors?  Is there more documentation on xpm besides the
> PS file
> on export?
> 
> Thanks ahead.

Yes, XpmReadFileToPixmap modify the colormap to support the requested colors in
the xpm file. The documentation reads :

---------
XpmReadFileToPixmap **allocates** colors, as read from the file or possibly
overridden as specified in the XpmColorSymbols attributes. The colors
are allocated dependently on the type of visual and on the default colors.
[...]
If required it stores into the XpmAttributes structure the list of the used
pixels [...]. When finished the caller must free [...] the colors using
XFreeColors.

---------

The only documentation of XPM resides as a TeX file called xpm.tex which is
part of the Xpm distribution (tar file) and its postscript version called
xpm.ps both available on export.

-- 
 Arnaud LE HORS - lehors@sophia.inria.fr - BULL Research France, Koala Project
From: timkwan@athena.mit.edu (Unknown)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: BadWindow result from XGetWindowAttributes
Date: 18 Aug 92 01:49:28 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:46:43 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug17.194643.4376@athena.mit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif


Recently I asked a question about why I couldn't use
XGetWindowAttributes on a widget which has already been realized.
Some of you responded by saying that perhaps the 'widget' is a Motif
gadget and hence does not have a window associated with it.  I looked
at the code that the other programmer wrote for his customized menubar
and indeed he used gadgets which may have accounted for why I had the
problem in the first place.

Rather than having the programmer change his code, I'd be more
interested in finding out how to simulate mouse button press/release
events in a GENERIC way.  Currently I have to fill an XButtonEvent
structure which includes specifying a value for the .window field.
Obviously this fails if the object that the pointer is in is in fact a
gadget which has no window associated with it.  But if I MANUALLY
moved the pointer into the menubar and clicked the left button on one
of the menu items, I would see the expected results.  What goes on
underneath?  How is it that gadgets making up the menubar know how to
respond to a button press?

In short, how do I create my own XButtonEvents such that they are
EXACTLY as if I MANUALLY pushed/released the mouse button over ANY
object on the screen?  How do I do it without regard to the underlying
structure of the object I am clicking on, so that if the object is set
up to listen to button press/release events then it does what it's
supposed to do, otherwise it does nothing....  How do I do that?

Once again, thanks for the responses you all have been sending me so
far.  Please continue to do so if you have any more ideas.  Respond
to me directly via e-mail.  Thanks.

-Tim
From: mike@meiko.com (Mike Stok)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: xdm link problem (SunOS 4.1.1)
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:56:17 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Meiko Scientific Corp.

Date: 14 Aug 92 12:49:59 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug14.124959.7304@meiko.com>
Newsgroups: alt.sys.sun,comp.windows.x

I recently built X11 R5 (witp fixes 1 to 16 applied) on a Sparcstation
1+ running SunOS 4.1.1 (with the ld patch 100170-08 and the libc patch
100266-06 installed) using Sun's cc as a compiler.  Everything built
fine except xdm which failed to link with this error message:

ld: Undefined symbol
   __C0095A2A
*** Error code 2

I have #define'd SunPost411FCSLd YES in my site.def as instructed in
fix #9.

If anyone knows what I've done wrong I'd be most grateful for any
advice.

Thanks,

Mike
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From: adelt@imada.ou.dk (Adel Shavandi)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: icons for data structures and algorithms needed!
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:03:01 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Dept. of Math. & Computer Science, Odense University, Denmark

Date: 19 Aug 92 13:35:59 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug19.133559.24094@imada.ou.dk>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x





Hello

Does somebody know where I can find icons for following subjects:

  a) Algorithms and Data Structures
  b) Stop
  c) Continue
  d) View
  e) Start
  f) Preferences
  g) Comparisons
  h) Visualization
  i) Cartoon/Animation



I will appraciate any help.




			Thanks in advance,
				Adel
From: Mathias.Koerber@sniap.mchp.sni.de (Mathias Koerber)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: XBell melodies ?
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:14:26 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Informationssysteme, AP 114

Date: 13 Aug 92 15:24:13 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug13.152413.16308@sniap.mchp.sni.de>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

XBell can only soud a bell of one pitch and duration. It is however
possible to set the volume from -100 to 100 percent. This should
be usable to design a few distinguishable signals...

Maybe have a resource say:

Xclient*errorbell: R:2,-100:2,50:3,0:4,-50:5,-100:6,P:4

to
	R:2	repeat the following signal twice

	100:2	sound 3 XBell(display,100)
	50:3	sound 2 XBell(display,50)
	etc..

	P:3	pause for 3 ms

Has anyone already done this? if not, how would you implement this
(interpret the signal). What additional operators would you add?

curiously

Mathias
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From: mohan@lns598.tn.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Communication between Motif apps using properties
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:14:12 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Message-Id: <9208131530.AA27878@lns598.TN.CORNELL.EDU>
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 11:30:49 -0400
X-Mts: smtp


> I am writing a user interface that part of its job is to display
> error messages received from other applications running on the same
> machine.  The other apps communicating the messages to the user
> interface using properties/atoms.  My problem is that all apps have
> to share a widget because properties are associated with widgets.
> I guess the most reasonable widget to use is the text widget in
> which the errors are to be displayed.  But how can the other apps
> know the widget ID of that window?
> -- 
>
> Meir Zaid			meir@tfs.com
> TRW Financial Systems		(510) 704-3362
> Berkeley,  California		Fax: (510) 845-7311

   You can define your own property on the root window that holds the widget ID
The other clients can than query the server for that property at startup.
                                                      - Mohan
From: kale@aelle.cs.odu.edu ("Vijay S. Kale")
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Source Code for any Drawing Program in X/Motif
Date: 21 Aug 92 12:03:09 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Old Dominion University

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:17:57 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug17.181757.24205@cs.odu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif

Hi Folks,

 Could any one out there give me pointers to any info/source on
 a code that would allow to draw and manipulate simple diagrams
 with lines, arcs, texts in an X/Motif enviromnment.

 Young/Brain books do give some info but they do not provide
 routines to select the objects and manipulate them.

 I will very much appreciate.

 Thanks.

..Vijay