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From: mprc@troi.cc.rochester.edu (M. Price)
Subject: Re: College Pranks (Was Re: Vacation Time!)
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 18:38:25 GMT

    English multi-storey dorm college prank ( reported as true):
Student who lives very high up in said dorms is taken out to celebrate
his birthday and got extremely drunk. Meanwhile, so called friends are
rearranging his furniture and posters in a ground-level apartment which
looks exactly the same. Birthday boy is brought "up" to "his" room in
the elevator (making sure he doesn't see the buttons), and into the
room. "Friend" is sitting on the window-ledge chatting, then fakes
losing his balance and falling out of the window.
     Alternative ending: birthday boy is pushed out of the window.

     How come women never do things like this?

                                                          MP
From: dscharfe@dptspd.sat.datapoint.com (David Scharfe)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: Question about Clinton's "didn't inhale" remark
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:37:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Datapoint Corporation, San Antonio, TX

In article <1992Jul22.145318.424@cos.com> bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw) writes:
>
>4. Family values - Quayle makes me laugh. Which party allowed
                           ^^^^^ ^^ ^^^^^
>salaries to drop so far behind inflation that both parents
>have to work, or lose everything they tried to build. Can you
>say GOP? With no one at home, we have a generation raised by
>TV and the malls.

Who to better state Quayle's position on "family values" than
ol' Danny Boy himself!  Quoted text below is from the "New and 
Improved Quayle Quotes File!"



	"Don't forget about the importance of the family. It begins with
the family. We're not going to redefine the family. Everybody knows the
definition of the family. [Meaningful pause] A child. [Meaningful pause] A
mother. [Meaningful pause] A father. There are other arrangements of the
family, but that is a family and family values."
                             ^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^
Ho ho ho ho!  Is it really, Dan?  Please stop Dan, my sides hurt!

	"I've been very blessed with wonderful parents and a wonderful
family, and I am proud of my family. Anybody turns to their family. I have
a very good family. I'm very fortunate to have a very good family. I
believe very strongly in the family. It's one of the things we have in
our platform, is to talk about it."  ^^^^ ^^^ ^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^ ^^^^ ^^
^^^ ^^^^^^^^^ ^^ ^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^
What a scream!  I almost die laughing every time I read this!!

"I suppose three important things certainly come to my mind that we
want to say thank you. The first would be our family. Your family, my
family -- which is composed of an immediate family of a wife and three
children, a larger family with grandparents and aunts and uncles. We all
have our family, whichever that may be ... The very beginnings of
civilization, the very beginnings of this country, goes back to the family.
And time and time again, I'm often reminded, especially in this
Presidential campaign, of the importance of a family, and what a family
means to this country. And so when you pay thanks I suppose the first thing
that would come to mind would be to thank the Lord for the family."
From: nelson@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Russ Nelson)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: SuperCollider: "For" or "Against" -- Tell the Committee  @ tele...
Date: 25 Jul 92 03:52:02 GMT
Organization: Clarkson University, Potsdam NY

In article <01GMPYXLP9GW001CAQ@utarlg.uta.edu> B645ZAW@UTARLG.UTA.EDU (Stephen Tice) writes:

   You can register your opinion for or against funding for the
   SuperConducting Super Collider, with the Senate Appropriations
   Committee at tele. (202) 224-3471. I just did mine.

Freeman Dyson assured me that the SSC would be killed...

--
--russ <nelson@sun.soe.clarkson.edu> I'm proud to be a humble Quaker.
Peace is not the absence of war.  Peace is the presence of a system for
resolving conflicts before war becomes necessary.  War never creates peace.
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
From: blais@milo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Kristin Blais)
Subject: Re: Question about Clinton's "didn't inhale" remark
Organization: Institute for Astronomy, Hawaii
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 04:30:34 GMT

In article <3442@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> psg+@pitt.edu (Paul S Galvanek) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.032128.28878@news.Hawaii.Edu> blais@milo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Kristin Blais) writes:
>>It DID NOT come from the citizens in his home state- it was
>>Republicans who banded together with the National Education
>>Association to try and prevent him from passing teacher competence 
>>testing in Arkansas , despite the fact that the majority
>
>The Republicans and the NEA?? HA HA!
>
>Kristen I suggest you get your facts straight.  The Republicans are the group
>that has been pushing for merit pay, and competency test for decades.  The
>Democrats are the ones onwed and operated by unions like the NEA and THEY 
>opposed the testing.

I *do* have my facts straight, the teacher compentence testing
was held up in the legislature do to the NEA from outside Arkansas
helping the teacher's in Arkansas lobby against it. The NEA
picked up the term "slick willy" although didn't really use it that
much, it's was widely propigated by the Republican party. The few
Republicans in Arkansas at the time used the teacher competence
test and the license plate fee issue -which was unpopular give
get Clinton the boot, although I can't remember if he lost to 
a Republican or a Democrat in the end. It was a classic case
of the enemy of the enemy is my friend.
:-)
Kristin
From: lund@noao.edu (Rich Lund)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
Subject: Bush Again
Summary: No other choice
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:34:53 GMT
Distribution: talk.politics.misc
Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson, AZ, USA

Let's keep Bush!  Sure he hasn't exactly done a terrific job on the domestic
front, but this whole Perot thing and the brutal attacks sure to follow
from the Democrats in coming months will point out to him very strongly 
where he needs to improve his job performance.  

Bush learned his lesson about giving in to the Congress on tax increases
and after he is re-elected the new Congress will be hard pressed to 
explain another refusal to pass a balanced budget amendment.

Many of us aren't happy with the choices we have this election, but rest 
assured that conditions could be worse and electing the alternative 
Clinton ticket is asking for serious trouble.  The country could very 
well turn socialist with a rubber stamp puppet afraid to veto any
porkbarrel piece of legislation that crosses his desk.  When it comes
time to pay for all the social programs promised by Clinton, there must
be a tax or deficit increase.        

In other words, we have no viable choice but to re-elect Bush and 
support him and our country until next Presidential election, at which
time I hope some qualified alternative candidates will come forward and
give the citizens some real choices.


Rich Lund


--opinions stated not sponsored by my employer--
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.elections
From: hallam@zeus02.desy.de (Phillip M. Hallam-Baker)
Subject: Re: Perot sued!!
Reply-To: hallam@zeus02.desy.de
Organization: DESY ZEUS Central Data Acquisition
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:29:40 GMT

In article <rdippold.711668643@cancun>, rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com
(Ron Dippold) writes:

|>sunder@altair.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder) writes:
|>>One of Perot's ex-supporters, a Miami woman named Michelle Alexander,
|>>has filed suit against Ross Perot for having broken his promise to run
|>>for President. It is supposedly a class-action suit.
|>>Talk of frivolous lawsuits!!!
|>
|>Well, I dunno, he told his supporters that if they put him on the
|>ballot in all 50 states he would give them a world class campaign.
|>That he didn't _want_ to run, but if "the people" wanted him to run
|>then he would run.  Some of these people gave up vacations, spent
|>thousands of dollars of their own money, quit their jobs, spent
|>hundred of hours working, etc. under that promise.  Now he says "Ha
|>ha, just kidding!" and takes off.  Seems there would be some case for
|>recovering any money wasted on the Perot campaign.

We have an offer:

"If my name is put on the ballot in all 50 states I will stand for
President and guarantee a world class campaign"

We have an acceptance:

The work put in to get the name on the ballots

We have a consideration:

Perot: Chance to run for office
Supporters: Candidate who supports particular agenda


It would seem that there is a contract.

Question is has the contract been breached? I think yes since Perot has
announced that he will not stand. Since this action frustrates the sole
condition he put forward there would seem to be a strong case against
him.


Phill Hallam-Baker
From: heath@athena.cs.uga.edu (Terrance Heath)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Which of you is 'good enough' ?
Date: 23 Jul 92 03:09:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <4023@news.duke.edu> eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK) writes:
>
>	Question: what are the top 5 issues that gay rights people (at
>least the leaders) feel are most important that can be changed through
>the political process? I'm just trying to avoid the "homosexuality is or
>is not natural thread" which will no doubt be formed.

Well, I'm a little hesistant to try and speak for the other 24,999,999
of us in this country, but I'll give it a whirl. I'm sure I'll be
corrected if I'm wrong.

[1]  First and foremost, ending discrimination based on sexual
orientation. This means that gay Americans and non-gay Americans have
equal rights *AND* priviledges.  

[2] Also ending military discrimination again gays and lesbians in the
armed services.


These are the first two that come to mind. You see, it all goes back
to inclusion. Most of us simply want the chance to live our lives,
take care of our families and communities, and get a little peice of
the "American Dream" (whatever that is). That's what the first two are
about.

[3] Increased AIDS funding, in hope of a cure. 
	[a] An end to discrimination based on HIV status.

[4] Repeal "Sodomy" Laws.

This applies to individual states. I put in on my list because I live
in a state where making love is a felony (for me). Also in my state,
the law is not applied to hetersexuals as it is to homosexuals.

[5] A kinder, gently America....with better taste. (?)

I've no idea what to add. 

Understand that you will get a different answer from every single gay
person you ask. I didn't mention abortion, but that's high on some
folks list (mine too, but I tried to stick mainly to gay-related
issues). We are no more politically monolithic than any other group.
We even have the occasional republicans in our ranks!  So I don't know
if there's a top 5 issues among gays. 

I do know this. We're here, we're queer, and we're Americans too.



-- 
"Black men loving black men is THE revolutionary act!"
			-Joseph Beam_
Terrance Heath 
heath@athena.cs.uga.edu
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
From: nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson)
Subject: Re: "American Ideals" (was: AMERICA IN DECLINE)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:25:21 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1992Jul27.230739.8170@oakhill.sps.mot.com> pjm@anegada.sps.mot.com (Patrick J. McGuinness) writes:

>>  gun.   Nor is it clear what is replacing it:  Are you willing to
>>  predict with confidence that the XSSR and eastern European nations
>>  will maintain their little democratic and capitalist experiments?
>>  I'm sure not.
>
>I *will*. I further predict that China will democratize within
>the next 20 years.

  Give me your address and I'll buy you the dinner of your choice at
  the restaurant of your choice if Russia and Poland both are capitalistic
  and democratic in 10 years, and did not slip into a military dictatorship
  in the interim.  (I'll define "capitalist" as 51% or more of GDP generated
  by private companies.  By this definition Sweden, the UK, Singapore, Japan,
  and the US are all capitalist.  And I'll define "democratic" as having
  the active, legal, participation of two or more political parties, both
  of whom having representatives in the national legislative body.   I
  know these are caricature definitions but they'll do for dinner  8-)  )


---peter







Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
From: rja@redwood26.cray.com (Russ Anderson)
Subject: Bush's mom
Originator: rja@redwood26
Organization: The 1991 World Champion Minnesota Twins!
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:20:44 CDT


Lou Harris (the pollster) said in a recent speech that George
Bush's mother has been a member of Planned Parenthood in CT
for over 25 years.  This is the first I've heard this.  Given
that Harris is fairly reputable and the speech was on NPR (at
the National Press Club, which also menas it was probably on
C-SPAN), I suspect it is true.

This lead me to think.  We all know about Bush flip-flop
on abortion in 1980 (when picked as Reagan's VP).  We've 
heard the stories that Bush was already planning to raise 
taxes in 1988 when he said "Read My Lips".  We know that 
Bush has never a "true believer" in the Far Right.  We know
know the roumours that Barbara Bush is pro-choice (When
asked specificly about this roumour by Baba Walters, Barbara 
gave a vauge answer about not always agreeing with George's 
positions).  We even know that one of Bush Supreme Court 
appointees foted to uphold Roe-v-Wade.  (Bush was somewhat 
stuck with Clarence Thomas in that he needed a black nominee
(for political reasons) and the Right had been grooming Thomas
for Marshall's spot).  We know that, if re-elected, will be a 
"lame duck" (not have to worry about running for re-election).

Which leads me to wonder if George, in his second term, will 
do another flip-flop on abortion.  He won't have to worry
about keeping the right wing happy.  He'll be free to do
what he really believes.

Comments?

-- 
Russ Anderson    |  Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
------------------              upon my employer or anyone else.  (c) 1992
EX-Twins' Jack Morris, 10 innings pitched, 0 runs (World Series MVP!)
From: barrett@cc.gatech.edu (James Barrett)
Subject: Spy magazine's top 1000 reasons to not vote for Bush
Reply-To: barrett@cc.gatech.edu
Organization: Georgia Tech College of Computing
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:00:07 GMT

For anyone considering voting for George Herbert (Hoover) W. Bush,
please read Spy magazine's August edition.  Regardless of whether
you beleive their number 1 reason, the other Jennifer, is true or
even a valid reason for voting against someone, many of the other
reasons are so incredibly sad but true that you should read it just
to be fully informed.


---------------------OS/2 v2.0 -- It's heeeeerrrreee!!!!!-----------------------
James C. Barrett (barrett@cc.gatech.edu)| "I'm speechless...               
Georgia Tech College of Computing       |      I am without speech." - George
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
From: pjm@anegada.sps.mot.com (Patrick J. McGuinness)
Subject: Did Gore trade Gulf War vote for TV coverage? (was Re: Dole)
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin TX
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 17:54:44 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.155500.13833@cshl.org> pjm@cshl.org (Pat Monardo) writes:
>NY Times headline:
>	Dole Asserts Gore Traded War Vote

Dole made this assertion on Evans and Novak yesterday.
In particular, he said that Gore hadn't decided which way to vote
on the Gulf war, up to the night before the vote,  and Gore came to him,
saying he was torn over which way to vote, and wanted to find out how much
prime-time coverage he would get from Dole if he was in favor. He asked
the same of majority leader Mitchell. He was trying to leverage his vote
to get as much prime-time coverage as possible.
Dole was low-key about this assertion, and said it was an inside joke
in the Senate cloakrooms.  He brought it up to show that Gore's
"pro-Gulf War" vote was far from a solid vote of support.

>This attack quickly led to the following remarks from Gore:
>	A ridiculous cheap shot from a Republican campaign that was 
>	meaner, panicked, and in trouble ...
>	Political panic sometimes brings out Senator Dole's dark side.

In other words, he doesn't dispute the assertion, but attacks the
messenger, as a way of evading and muddying the issues.
I saw Dole on Evans and Novak when he made this remark.  There was no
'dark' side, and to suggest that is more of a cheap shot than anything.
Dole was courteous, said he likes Gore personally, that he was a fine man.
His main complaint was the dishonesty of the claims made by the Clinton-
Gore campaign that somehow Gore is a "moderate".
The Gulf War point came up in the course of that discussion.

He said that Gore has one of the most Liberal voting records in
the Senate, and thinks it is ridiculous to suggest Gore is a
moderate. He made the comparison with Sam Nunn, who he said really
is a moderate southern Democrat. 
Al Gore, on the other hand, is the most liberal
southern Democrat in the Senate, with 90+ ratings from Liberal groups,
and zero rating from many Conservative groups. 
(He is also rated the number 1 biggest spender in the Senate
by the National Taxpayer's Union for '89-'90 session.)
--------
P.McGuinness
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From: catapnbf@g310b7.Rose-Hulman.Edu. (Nathan)
Subject: National Platform
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 18:38:14 GMT

Hello:
	I was wondering if there was an ftp site which houses the 1992  
platforms of the Democratic Party, Republican Party, or any other party.   
Also, the snail addresses would be welcome.

	Thankyou,
		Nathan  
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
From: ejalbert@jaameri.gsfc.nasa.gov (E. Jason Albert)
Subject: Re: Question about Clinton's "didn't inhale" remark
Organization: Oceans & Ice Branch
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:17:32 GMT

In article <45515@shamash.cdc.com>, rjv@a2.cim.cdc.com (Rene Valdes x4660) writes:
> In article <3443@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, psg+@pitt.edu (Paul S Galvanek) writes:
> |> In article <1992Jul21.035951.8389@news.Hawaii.Edu> blais@milo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Kristin Blais) writes:
> |> >
> |> >Clinton never said he had an affair. Also at the point the Gennifer 
> |> >Flowers affair supposedly took place, He was running for 
> |> >re-election-had a ten *month* old daughter. Even the 
> |> >Republicans Arkansas say that he was too *obsessed* with his career
> |> >to ever jeopardize it that way. Additionally the story is *known*
> |> >to have been brought to the press by an old enemy of Bill Clinton,
> |> 
> |> Ya know Kristin if you're going to support this guy you might want to 
> |> brush up on the facts so you don't look quite so silly. 
> |> 
> |> Ms. Flowers was number thirteen in a string of women (mostly state employees)
> |> that have claimed to have affairs with Bill and received a job or promotion
> |> to keep quiet.  Secondly these accusations have been around since long before
> |> his plan to run for President and it wasn't Republicans that called him on the
> |> issue but Democratic state house representatives that had gone as far as suing
> |> him for official corruption because of his alleged sex for jobs scam.

Sorry dude, but Kristin's right and your not.  A disgruntled former employee
of an Arkansas state agency filed a suit against Clinton in which he claimed 
that.  All of the women, including Miss Flowers, filed sworn affadavits denying
the charges.  She only changed her mind after being paid $50,000 by a magazine
that later reported extraterrestial contact between aliens and Perot.

> |> Get it right would you.
> |> 
> |> PSG
> 
> You know, Paul, you need to do better than scolding Kristin.  You need to refer
> to all the facts, because it is evident that you don't know them or choose to
> ignore them to misrepresent Bill Clinton.
> 
> The one very important fact you are suppressing is that Ms. Flowers has been
> proven to be a liar since she claimed that she had been with Clinton at a certain
> time at a hotel that was only build a year later.  Sorry you "forgot" about that!
> 
> RJV

Also, there are at least seven major inconsistencies in her story according to
*The Economist*

Jason Albert
From: dong@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Don M. Gibson)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Congress and the balaced budget scam
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:26:29 GMT
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas

>  ( In reference to the recently defeated balanced budget amendment) 

>>"the Constitution isn't at fault, the legislators are.

>  Oh, Bush-it!   The *real* culprits are the voters.  They're the ones who
>  reward legislators who "bring home the bacon" in the form of federal
>  contracts, aid programs, keeping military bases open, etc, with 
>  re-election.  They're also the ones who demand the the government "do
>  something" about every problem that comes along.  If the Birchers,

the voters only do the most rational thing under the system.  the
seniority system of the congress lets the most re-elected reps.
decide who gets the pork.  a voter deciding not to re-elect
their rep. gets punished by the "system" by getting less for their
tax dollars.  

the seniority system was established by guess who, the previously
elected reps!  they are the ones to blame.  unfortunately, they
are the only ones who can change the system (SOBs).  i suggest
that everyone ask their rep., "If it is *patriotic* to put the
needs of their district above the needs of the United States
of America?"  that should put them in a nice dilemma:)  then
vote the bastard out. 
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,ca.politics
From: adams@spss.com (Steve Adams)
Subject: Re: Bush/Baker Ticket??
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:24:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: SPSS Inc.

jbutterf@mal-s1.gatech.edu (Jill Butterfield) writes:


>There's a rumor going around here that Baker's first task to help
>out the Bush campaign is to kick Quayle out, and that Baker plans
>on running for VP.

Such a move would give the Democrats even more ammunition.  

First, they'll point to all of the statements Bush has made that Quayle is 
on for the long haul.  "He lied on that, he lied about taxes, what else is 
he lying about?"

Then, they'll point out that even Bush acknowledges that Quayle was a
mistake, and that was Bush's first decision as candidate/nominee.  "What
other decisions is Bush going to decide were mistakes?"

etc., etc.

 -Steve
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