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From: pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: UUCICO for Windows and OS/2
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 07:35:01 EST
Organization: Berry Communications

frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton) writes:

> Maybe asking Tom for a Windows and/or OS/2 version of Waffle *is*
> asking a bit much,

Not really.  A few months ago, Tom Salzmann offered to port Waffle to
OS/2 if Tom Dell would give him a copy of the source code.  He was
ignored.

> As it stands, I am looking for a non-Waffle solution to Waffle under
> OS/2.  I haven't found anything comparable yet, I mean, Waffle *is*
> a great product, and it seems rather harsh to throw away [the baby
> with the bathwater] just because a Waffle-UUCICO for OS/2 is all I need.

Waffle *is* a great product, but that doesn't mean that greater ones are
not possible.  And I, for one, will jump ship in a minute if a
comparable OS/2 product comes along.  Tom Dell already has my money, so
I guess he doesn't care whether I use Waffle or not.

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From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Feeding downstream feeds <LOCAL> forums
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 20:40:09 +1300
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)

root@cibbs.UUCP writes:

> I have modified the local forums file to say USENET instead of LOCAL, and
> thereby I can send them anywhere I want by changing my feeds file. I happen t
> call all my local forums local.* such that they can be distinguished from the
                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Whoop! whoop!  Danger Will Robinson! Newsgroup leakage alert!

If anyone ever happens to crosspost to a mainstream group as well as
your local.* group, there is a damn good chance that their posting
will turn up in local.* on sites right around the globe.
Anyone who uses the name local.* is asking for wierd and mysterious
postings to turn up from time to time

Personally, I name all local groups after my bbs, or area.
( dawghaus.* and manawatu.* )


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From: mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: ZipNews Door for Waffle in BETA Release
Summary: Need Set-up Help
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 00:49:58 PST
Reply-To: mikey@slic.cts.com
Organization: Muth Valley Bell  (619/390-SLIC BBS; V32bis)

jkilday@nlbbs.UUCP (Jack Kilday) writes:

> This is to announce availability for wide area BETA testing a new
> facility for your DOS-based Waffle system, ZipNews!
> 
> Here's what it's about:
> 
>   * Offers high-speed, efficient access to Usenet newsgroups for callers
>     to Waffle BBSs (as a Door or Waffle "external command").
> 
>   * Produces a single compressed ASCII text file of all new articles
>     contained in newsgroups listed in the caller's Waffle JOIN file.

I'm not able to get past the following screen and need a little
help.  I sure like the idea of zipping a newsgroup for off-line
reading.

Cannot open user's output text file.

 0:35  E:\BIN>zn root local     (this is my invocation from the shell)

Anyone else trying to use ZIPNEWS yet?

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From: chorn@eastwind.mcds.com (Christopher Horn)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Need Smail mail batching format info
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 15:54:37 EST
Organization: The East Wind  +1 201 875 7063


I ported UUBatch, a UUCP mail batching package, to Dos to work with Waffle
and have been asked whether it can handle Smail style batched/compressed
mail. I don't know, because I don't know how Smail batches mail.

If Smail uses a format like this...

message length  checksum  address1 address2 ...
    {message length bytes of data}
message length  checksum  address1 address2 ...
    {message length bytes of data}
etc..

then the answer is yes for batched, unsure for compressed batch though.

If anyone could send me info on how smail batches/compresses mail and
what programs it uses to do so, and what they do to handle the batches,
would be appreciated. It should be pretty easy to add support for it.

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From: andyross@infopls.chi.il.us (Andrew Rossmann)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Old XT + Waffle + Fossil + V.32bis = ?
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 12:16:44 CST
Organization: INFOPLUS support, Wheeling, IL

jeff@amikoj.rn.com (Jeff Kunce) writes:

> FURTHER IMPROVEMENT:
>   From what I hear, I am convinced that, if you use a uucp protocol with
> larger packets (like 7x512 "G"), V.42bis compression *does* increase
> throughput. I have not had the time to verify this (patch the uucico,
> arrange things with my feed, etc.)

  Actually, there is still no actual compression taking place. You'd get the
same 1600+ cps under MNP4 or v42. The fact of turning on error correction
reduces the number of bits that needs to be sent.

  A normal connection requires 10 bits/byte (1 start, 8 data, 1 stop). Under
MNP/v42, the start and stop bits are not used, and several bytes of data are
'combined' into packets. Every 8 bits in the data packet is called an octet.
This alone would give a 20% speedup. The actual speedup is slightly less due
to the headers needed to define and error-check the packets.

  This is for the data actually sent between the modems. The modems will
'convert' the data to the standard 10 bits when it talks to the computer.



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From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: out of sequence news. ( UUXQT question )
Date: 24 Jan 93 11:43:57 GMT
Organization: The CServer at the Z*NET International Global News Gateway

russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz) writes:

> dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister) writes:
> 
> > I was watching my system poll today, and I noticed that UUXQT
> > seemed to process files in reverse cronological order.
> 
> here, it processes them in the order it finds them in the directory -
> so it depends how they got sent.  I've seen them come in all sorts of
> ways - but every time I run out of disk, it was working on the first
> one in the DIR listing.  always.
> 
 
 I feed a few uucp sites here in my city (12) and I too have noticed
 a few simular problems. These relate to news I feed to these news
 sites via uucp/uucico.
 
 All their news is batched up in numeric order in their /spool/sitename
 directory. However when they poll me for it they seem to get a muddled
 feed ie
 
 5798
 5799
 5743
 5744
 
 and so on. Why does this happen. I would have suspected it would have
 be in numeric order as well but it is not for some reason.  I have
 however noted this only seems to effect news.feeds over 1meg and as
 most sites poll 1-3 megs per session I wonder if I should be concerned
 about this.


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From: mjj@mlb.dmt.csiro.au (Murray Jensen)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: How to set up smail3.1.27 with Unix waffle (was A Waffle question)
Date: 28 Jan 93 09:22:51 GMT
Organization: CSIRO Division of Manufacturing Technology, Melbourne, Australia

From article <C1E7wG.44y@ichaos.nullnet.fi>, by jlaiho@ichaos.nullnet.fi (Juha Laiho):
> vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan) writes:
>>there are other waffle sites out there under unix...
>>what do YOU folks do ???

I am in the process of building a waffle BBS system, running on a Sun
(Unix) computer. I try to read this group, but most of the postings are
about the DOS version of waffle - I don't have time to wade through all
the postings to find out if they pertain to the Unix version of waffle.
I am keen to keep up to date with what's happening in the Unix waffle
world. Obvious solution: split this group into "comp.bbs.waffle.dos" and
"comp.bbs.waffle.unix". Unfortunately, I don't have time to run a CFV and
all the rest to create the new groups. Do people think this is a good idea?
Is there some kind soul that would take the creation of the new groups on
board? Cheers!
								Murray...
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From: mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Feeding downstream feeds <LOCAL> forums
Summary: Use of /solo
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 22:47:15 PST
Organization: Muth Valley Bell  (619/390-SLIC BBS; V32bis)

dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister) writes:

> root@cibbs.UUCP writes:
> 
> > I have modified the local forums file to say USENET instead of LOCAL, and
> > thereby I can send them anywhere I want by changing my feeds file. I happen
> > call all my local forums local.* such that they can be distinguished from t
>                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Whoop! whoop!  Danger Will Robinson! Newsgroup leakage alert!
> 
> Personally, I name all local groups after my bbs, or area.
> ( dawghaus.* and manawatu.* )

I'd go a step further and add the /solo parm to every "Local"
newsgroup.  Call it "NetSurance".

...never did like that robot!

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From: david@stat.com (David Dodell)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: bang path to mailbox
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 11:02:20 MST
Reply-To: david@stat.com (David Dodell)
Distribution: world
Organization: Stat Gateway Service, WB7TPY

I present write a domain I gate for to a mailbox using the format

wb7tpy.ampr.org    =c:/waffle/user/david/radio
 
 this creates a radio mailbox for me to review
 
However, this seems to work only if mail is in the domain format of
 
user@wb7tpy.ampr.org ... if mail comes in a bang format:

wb7tpy.ampr.org!user   .... it gets passed on, and not written to the 
mailbox ... anyway around this?
 
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From: jkilday@nlbbs.UUCP (Jack Kilday)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: ZipNews Door for Waffle in BETA Release
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 05:38:20 EDT
Distribution: world               
Organization: The Northern Lights BBS, Portland, ME  * 207-761-4782 *

tweek@netcom.com (Michael D. Maxfield) writes:
>
> One problem I found with this program, is that while most of the
> scan pointers are reset to the last message downloaded, a few groups have
> their pointers reset back to the first message that exists in the group.
> I've tried to isolate out the problem, and the closet I can fiqure is that
> in the groups that this happens, the ones and tens digits of the highest
> message is lower than the ones and tens digits of the lowest message....
>
> IE:  479-556   would reset the pointers to 479
> but  520-590   would reset to 590

Thanks for your observations.  I haven't heard of that one before, nor
have I seen it on my system where we've been running ZipNews for more
than a year.  (I HAVE seen several rare instances where the number of
articles extracted for a newsgroup doesn't seem to equal HiNumber minus
LoNumber per the display during the scan, but I don't recall failure of a
pointer to be updated with the last article number of a completed scan.)

Please let me know via e-mail should you (or anyone else) obtain more info
on this.

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Full News feed , /waffle/usenet file
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 23:40:03 GMT
Organization: The CServer at the Z*NET International Global News Gateway

This may be a silly question but I have to ask it. I currently
only receive a limited news feeds (just over 390 odd groups) and
am about to take a full news feeds from my hub (2200 groups).
 
Do I have to complete EVERY entry into my /waffle/usenet file or
is there a way to auto creat newsgroups as I can not see any way
from the docs to this I thought I would ask.
 
I had hoped a usenet file like this would work
 
 alt
 biz.
 clari.
 comp.
 nz.
 ny.
 nj.
 aus.
 etc etc etc etc would work but it did not from the tests I have
 tried here. Any thoughts out there ?
 
 Has anyone done the task with 2200 odd news.groups in their usenet
 file? if so how about .zipping it up and uue'ing to me (grin).


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From: rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Wish List for Waffle v1.66
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 12:55:43 CST
Organization: Network XXIII - +1 608 222 9253


Here is my wish list for Waffle, mostly for rn! ...

     - A 'c' (catch-up) command at newsgroup level prompts.  Then you
       won't have to read a message just to 'c' catch-up on all the
       messages.

     - Support for reading old messages in newsgroups with no new
       articles.  I use /fast, so it all goes woosh and I have to
       resort to the READ command to get anywhere!

     - Support for 'p', 'P' (and probably 'n', 'N') at newsgroup level

     - A 'End of newsgroups, what next?' prompt to go with the above

     - Perhaps, instead of "Post here?" it could be expanded to
       "read (yn)?" or whatever.... it would be nice to be able to
       backtrack..

One non-rn request... when using feeds file entry with a "/batch=fido"
(or other similar), would it be possible to keep messages posted by
rnews (as compared to Waffle) from posting into the file of the
name 'fido'?  My gateway has to constantly read this file and CHECK
the news articles to see if they've been gated first... pain in the
kazoo.

Thanks for everything Tom!


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From: daveh@ka3uzr.uucp (Dave Hultberg)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Why we use Waffle
Keywords: me too!
Date: 26 Jan 93 02:14:12 GMT
Organization: Hams Do It With High Frequency

ed@srconslt.mv.com (Ed Sinamark) writes:

> Why not start up a poll/vote?  Personallly I'm like you I run Waffle just
> to have Mail/News for my Family.

Sounds like a good idea to me too.  I am also running waffle just to have 
Mail and News for my family.  There are no other users and waffle does 
not answer the phone.

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From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: scheduled events that take phone off-hook?
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 15:40:34 +1300
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)

bob@1776.COM (Robert Coe) writes:

> I don't understand this entire thread.  What purpose is served by taking the
> phone off-hook that isn't better served by simply turning off the modem's
> auto-answer capability?

If your bbs phone line is busy, people assume that someone else is using
it.

If your bbs doesn't answer the phone, sooner or later, someone will
ring your voice line and tell you it's broken.

Personally I don't want to hear "wolf" too often, especially at 2am....

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From: nick@brimbank.apana.org.au (Nick Langmaid)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Help!  Waffle cannot see "carrier detect"
Keywords: init, modem
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 00:19:27 +1100
Organization: APANA, Melbourne.

I am trying to connect a "downstream" site who is using Waffle 1.65
under DOS 5 without FOSSIL drivers.  He has both a Netcomm E7 and a 
Maestro V.32 modem, although these model identifiers may not mean 
much outside of Australia.  The whole thing is running on a 486/33.

We have no problem getting our modems to connect.

His problem is that uucico reports carrier loss while his modem shows
the DCD signal is still high.  Initially, his uucico was failing to
login because it wouldn't receive my login prompt - his trace reported
loss of carrier instead.  As a last resort, he removed the \m parameter
from his scripts file.  Now, he can (blindly) log in but does not respond 
to my "Shere" message - again his trace reports loss of carrier instead.
We cannot see how to turn off uucico's carrier detection once a connection
is established.  Nor do we want to, really!

We have run up a hefty phone bill trying every combination of init strings
we could think of, for each of his two modems.  The same behaviour results
for all reasonable combinations, including both &C0 and &C1.  &C0 SHOULD tell
the modem to keep DCD up, no matter what happens.

Now, the REALLY strange thing is that connections using both Procomm (login 
to an interactive acount) and UUPC/extended (to a uucico shell) were simple 
and painless.  He doesn't want to stay with UUPC because of its relatively 
poor news support, plus he's attracted to Helldiver as a user agent.

I've asked him to check out his cable to make sure that DCD is propagated 
reliably (no loose pins), but that sounds a bit feeble when UUPC and Procomm
don't seem to have any problem.  I also suggested that he might have configured 
those other programs to ignore hardware DCD - but I doubt that is even possible 
with UUPC.

SO.  Has anyone seen anything like this before?  Has anyone got any suggestions?
Are there any neat debugging tricks we should be trying?  Would anyone care to 
speculate why UUPC/extended behaves differently?  We've run out of ideas, except 
for the unlikely theory that he has a hardware fault.

All assistance gratefully received...


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From: mlewis@wplace.UUCP (Mark Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: MODEM barf
Date: 24 Jan 93 19:35:43 GMT
Reply-To: mlewis%wplace@cssnet.UUCP
Organization: The Waffle House, Waldo's Place USA


shimizu@unix.SRI.COM (Dan Shimizu) writes:
> made, but then the Twincomm sends "CARRIER 14400", and I think WAFFLE
> expects "CONNECT". Not seeing connect, WAFFLE reports MODEM barfed, and

check into the W setting (NOT the &W setting) and/or the S45 register (i 
think i got the right register...) it's a bitmapped register and you 
definately want bits 0 and 1 ON (ie: S45=3) ...

either one of the above generally makes Hayes compatible modes return

   CONNECT <speed>[/ARQ]

where [/ARQ] is only presented on error correcting connections...

your modem is probably returning a multiline connect message similar 
to...

   CARRIER <blah>

   PROTOCOL <blah>

   CONNECT <locked port rate>

this style you do NOT want... you want to use the one listed above...

hope it helps...

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: vince@halcyon.com (Vince Skahan)
Subject: Re: waffle 1.65 add-ons
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:33:44 GMT

thecat@felix.nervous.com (Roberto Nucci) writes:

>i'm looking for some waffle's add-on...
>expecially for a news-reader...
>is there some good FTPable stuff ?
>if yes... what & where ?

man, where have you been ?
probbaly the definitive waffle archives are on halcyon.com
which is on the Internet.

there are lots of newsreaders in waffle/news there.
grab the 00-index.txt file for a listing of available
files and what's what.

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: tweek@netcom.com (Michael D. Maxfield)
Subject: Re: command 'me' in waffle 1.64
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:36:51 GMT

In article <oLXZXB1w165w@laptop.wes.open.de> mack@wes.open.de (Jochen Erwied) writes:
>daniel drucker <xyzzy@jaflrn.UUCP> writes:
>
>> When I type 'me' in waffle 1.64, I get:
>> Coreleft: 240744
>> Display mode: 3
>> Columns: 80
>> Active page: 0
>> Video Adapter: [insert linenoise type garbage here]
>>
>> Any ideas ?
>
>Read the file user.doc - it should be the command 'memory'...
^^^^^RTFM (FM=FULL MESSAGE)

First a suggestion to xyzzy:  I suggest you kill the post and redo it
highlighting the problem line in the memory printout.

As far as the data which is appearing in the `video adapter` line, could
it be possible that your system has a VGA graphics card, or some sort of
very badly cloned CGA, MGA, EGA card that does not have the ROM information
located in the proper location for what Waffle expects?  

Does Waffle look at the card, or at the cmos when it does this check?
From: pat@patsbbs.alt.za
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: scheduled events that take phone off-hook?
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:22:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: patsbbs.Hs4ZXB1w165w
Organization: Pats System in Pretoria, RSA +27-12-73-2573

revc@Garg.Campbell.CA.US (Bob Van Cleef) writes:

> What could work is a small TSR that ran before Windows was started
> and behaved as you described "watchcat".
> 
> Second question: Is Watchcat available for redistribution?

I got it from the SIMTEL 20 Cd-Rom, as /msdos/bbs/watchkit.arc,
file size is 17105 bytes.  I think you have a good chance of it
working if loaded before starting windows.


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