From: hinrich@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (hinrichs clay robert)
Subject: Re: Final 3 Hit DP Post (this time for sure!)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 00:48:45 GMT

<U58505@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:

>This is it.  This is the final one (I hope).  I'll do my best so
>try and bear with me.  First off, only Ken can do this, only Ken.
>If you performed the identical sequence with Ryu I don't know what
>would happen.  Now here's the sequence (assume you are on the left
>side of the screen):

>-0 , \  , | + fierce , \  , -0 + fierce (perform sequence quickly)
>      0   0             0

>Now you will get three hits with this.  Some of you may think of
>this as the "crouching fierce/fierce DP combo" (because a crouching
>fierce is the first blow that you see).  You need to get out of that
>mindset.  The COMPUTER itself does not recognize it as a combo and
>will allow that entire sequence to be buffered.

>Now here is the standing fierce/fierce DP combo:

>fierce, -0 , \  , | , \  , -0 + fierce
>              0   0    0

>       |                              |
>       ---- this sequence buffered ----
>(perform immediately after the standing fierce)

>This also gives you three hits.  The first blow is a standing fierce.
>Here genuine buffering is occuring.

>Now by definition, wouldn't a crouching fierce/fierce DP combo look
>like this:

> / or | or \  + fierce , -0 , \  , | , \  , -0 + fierce
>0     0     0                  0   0    0

>                        |                              |
>                        ---- this sequence buffered ----

>Now I have never attempted the above sequence, because frankly I've
>never found the need and don't really care to see what happens.  I
>assume it would LOOK like the triple hit DP.

>Now if your area has a "crouching fierce/fierce DP combo" most likely
>you guys are performing the triple hit DP and not even realizing it.
>The standing fierce/fierce DP combo has a slight stutter to it (i.e.
>a small pause).  It goes POW ... POW POW.  If your
>"crouching fierce/fierce DP combo" goes POW POW POW and does about
>half the energy bar's worth of damage; then you guys are performing
>the triple hit DP, but you think of it as a combo instead of a stand
>alone move.  What I am about to say you absolutely have to understand
>it is the most crucial element; otherwise you will be stuck in a
>certain mindset.

>For the standing fierce/fierce DP combo you HUMAN players think of it
>and recognize it as a combo; so does the COMPUTER.

>For the "crouching fierce/fierce DP combo" you HUMAN players think of
>it and recognize it as a combo; BUT THE COMPUTER DOES NOT.

>I have serious doubts that people actually do this for the
>"crouching fierce/fierce DP combo":

> / or | or \  + fierce, -0 , \  , | , \  , -0 + fierce
>0     0     0                 0   0    0

>                       |                              |
>                       ---- this sequence buffered ----

>Very serious doubts.  So if you guys are getting three hits that
>looks like a combo with the first blow being a crouching fierce
>then you are doing the triple hit DP.  What you need to do is to
>stop thinking of it as a combo and instead start thinking of it as
>a stand alone move.  But you say "It looks like a combo, it smells
>like a combo; it's gotta be a combo".  Well that's fine, think of
>it as "double buffering".

>Now just try this:

>fierce , -0 , \  , | + fierce , \  , -0 + fierce
>               0   0             0

>        |                                       |
>        -------- this sequence buffered ---------
> (perform quickly and immediately after the standing fierce)

>This is the standing fierce/triple hit DP combo.  You should
>get four hits.  For the five hit combo, simply add some form of aerial
>attack at the beginning of the sequence (roundhouse or fierce).

>I think that's all I need to cover, I think.  If you still have
>problems with it, let me know.  I'll try my best to convey meanings
>and definitions.

>Until my next post,
>The X-Man


Xavier you big stud, you're full of shit!
By the way this is Clay.

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