HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dillard@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex Dillard)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: Idea for the Next StarTrek Motion Picture
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:07:44 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <RUDOLPH.92Aug20124210@marvin.ee.up.ac.za> rudolph@marvin.ee.up.ac.za (Rudolph Pienaar) writes:
>
>Not a bad idea, but there might a slight time paradox -
>
>The crew of TNG would already know about the time switch even before it happens, by
>virtue of the effect having happened in their past.

   Yes, but before Picard leaves the past, he could make sure no records of 
his actions are recorded, so that he won't know from the future.  One of those
situations where foreknowledge would keep Picard from doing the right thing.

-- 
 \ _
 - o  We were once so close to Heaven, Peter came out and gave us medals,
  ^   declaring us the nicest of the Damned. - They Might Be Giants
        Alex  dillard@sleepy.cc.utexas.edu
From: v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (sandra guzdek)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: NEW STORY: Qlue (or, ....)
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:18:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <9208142105.AA00575@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu>, asher@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (Marnita Asher) writes...
>In article <BszEJz.6pE@acsu.buffalo.edu> you write:
>>well, here it is, the last thing that i shall submit for the approval of all 
>>of you (well, unless i go back to school).  it is a semi-parody.
>>         at the risk of being flamed for wasting bandwidth/
>>being sappy, it's been a good time and i shall miss this newsgroup dearly.  
>>anyone so inclined may write to me at the below address... i would love if 
>>those so inclined could post me (snail mail) the latest and greatest fiction 
>>on this newsgroup...  bye!  :'(
>>  +        
>>   sandra guzdek
> 
>I will also miss you Sandra.  I thank you for reposting all your wonderful
>stories before you left; I am relatively new to the net and had not had a 
>chance to read many of them. 

you're welcome. sob sob.

>I volunteer to mail Sandra all the stories.  I got the time and the stamps.
> 
>Marnita


thank you thank you thank you!

>P.S.  And of course Sandra and I will be joining forces for our trip down
>south.  The sins of Pat Parker and his roommate Chris Carey have not been
>forgotten!

<snicker> :)

  +                                  +                                       +
   sandra guzdek + username: v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu + til 28 Aug 1992 
       6037 Devlin Avenue + Niagara Falls, NY + 14304 + after 28 Aug 1992 
    "Higher emotions are what separate us from the lower orders of life... 
                  Higher emotions, and table manners."
                       --- Deanna Troi, _Imzadi_
From: shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: Raven's Roar
Date: 12 Aug 92 22:47:19 GMT
Organization: Boston University Chemistry Department

In article <11AUG199216391690@rigel.tamu.edu> emk9267@rigel.tamu.edu (KLINE,
ERIC MICHAEL) writes:

>If I might make a suggestion...

>Get some toys (or miniatures) to represent each of the ships that are
>taking place in the battle, place them on a table top, and play out the
>battle.  Take notes as to where ships move, what they do, when they
>blow up.  Using actual models to help simulate the ship to ship battles
>should help you better visualize what's going on which will in turn
>help you describe the sequence of events.

You also might want to fill a large fish tank with glycerine to simulate the
battle in 3-D :-)

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
// Ryan: What is it to you, demon?       //// Sergei Shimkevich             //
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Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: eisimps@cie.uoregon.edu (Eileen Simpson)
Subject: Great American Star Trek Novel
Organization: University of Oregon Campus Information Exchange
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 02:02:09 GMT

Just thought I'd mention some things about The G.A.S.T.N.

The format of this is not a true novel.  I am experimenting with form, and
needless to say, I hope it works.  Chapters 1-7 are the set up of how they
get to where the rest of the story takes place, and basic info about the
probable world/culture they are dealing with.  The  parts that follow are
a series of interconnected stories that lead to an eventual conclusion and
resolution, but--so far at least--I have not placed them in a traditional
novel format.   I may yet chicken out and do that.

Also, I will give you some hints about the story.  There are various in-
jokes, acronyms, and modified Trek cliches throughout the story.  (One of
my goals is to put every Trek cliche I can think of into the story, but
stand it on its head or otherwise throw a curve with it.)  If you can
think of cliches, feel free to  suggest them. We may give a prize to the
person who spots all the cliches.  (Not!)

Also, I have a standing request for technical info and suggestions.  I
may not take you're advice, but I'd love to hear it! Thanks!
From: nsnguyen@bluemoon.rn.com (Nicholas S Nguyen)
Subject: Re: STTNG Officers Manual
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 20:09:12 EDT

> I think the Technical giude you are talking about is the Starlog Star Trek:
> The Next Generation Technical Journal.  Cost: $6.95.  It came out about the
> time Gene Roddenberry died.  I haven't seen to many lately, but you might fin
> them at a bookstore or a place that sells a lot of sci-fi stuff.  If you want
> an address where to get a copy, E-mail me and I'll find it for ya.
> 					Jeffrey Jo
No, the book he is referring to is the Star Trek:TNG Technical Manual by 
Michael Okuda and Rick Sternbach.  It's published by Pocket Books and cost 
about $12 at waldenbooks.  The starlog journal is NOT canon by any stretch 
of the term.


Nicholas Nguyen a.k.a. Trebron on America Online a.k.a. H.NGUYEN6 on GEnie
a.k.a. nsnguyen@bluemoon.rn.com, broadcasting from Columbus Ohio
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: goudswaa@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter Goudswaard)
Subject: Power of Q
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:33:03 GMT

For my 2 cents worth, I'd split myself into a large number of physical
bodies, perhaps a few for every species in the universe.  Then, I'd
find out which reproduction methods were most enjoyable...
From: krieger@egnext3.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Karen Krieger)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Worf's son
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:22:37 GMT

I am in the process of naming a litter of puppies and would appreciate it  
if any of you could tell me the name of Worf's son. (Someone told me Worf  
also has a brother?) What is Data's brother's name? 
P.S. It is a litter of 5 males and only 1 female!!
Thanks
Xref: sparky alt.startrek.creative:1791 rec.arts.poems:8165
From: learnd@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Dave Learn)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative,rec.arts.poems
Subject: Ode to Doctor McCoy
Keywords: poem, short
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:12:07 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: na
Organization: Lehigh University


Dammit Jim,                                                                     
  I'm a                                                                         
    doctor                                                                      
   not                                                                          
a poet.


Dave Learn, Knight of the Wolves         "What an extraordinary thing to
dl20@lafayacs.bitnet                      do--and you only a stutterer."
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: ketzlekc@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU (Kevin C. Ketzler)
Subject: RE: my last post
Reply-To: ketzlekc@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 04:09:16 GMT

It seems that my local newsreader murdered my original post.

Question 1: What happened to the signalling devices on the Enterprise's
doors?  In the episodes and previous movies, as well as ST:TNG the doors
chime when someone wants in. The doors also audibly hiss when they openned.
And yet, Valeris (sp) got into Kirk's quarters without so much as a blip!

Question 2: How was Gorkon's (sp) DAUGHTER, Azetboar (sp), able to be 
promoted to the Chancellor of the High Council or whatever? Since she was a
female, this should have made her ineligible in the Klingon Governmental
System. (As I understand it from movies, episodes, and ST:TNG)

Again, please mail the answers or thoughts, to:

	Kevin C. Ketzler
	ketzlekc@hydra.rose-hulman.edu

Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: djtooley@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Doug Tooley)
Subject: Re: Raven's Roar
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 04:52:17 GMT

 shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich) writes:
>emk9267@rigel.tamu.edu (KLINE, ERIC MICHAEL) writes:
>>Get some toys (or miniatures) to represent each of the ships that are
>>taking place in the battle, place them on a table top, and play out the
>>battle.  
>You also might want to fill a large fish tank with glycerine to simulate the
>battle in 3-D :-)

Hey, this is Star Trek - a 2D table top will be perfect.
And make sure to keep them all level too! Very important.  :-) 

...."I haven't lost my mind, I know exactly where I left it."................
Doug Tooley             3A Co-Op CS student at U of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
djtooley@{descartes|napier|cayley}.uwaterloo.ca
From: Sem_Hoelscher@hb.maus.de (Sem Hoelscher)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: ST VI:TUC
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 09:35:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.11

Shacha!

[arh] 1.  The doors do not make that much noise, its possible that Kirk simply
          did not hear it. This is, of course, IMHO.

I find that hard to believe! And anyway: Where does one enter another's room
without asking? That's bad manners at least!

Oyori - Sem [from Northern Germany]
From: J.P.Brannan <J.P.Brannan@cornell.edu>
Subject: Stories Requested (Please)
Nntp-Posting-User: jpb1@cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d1
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 03:24:30 GMT

Hello all, I'm new to the group and was wondering if someone could send
me copies of The Return and/or Aeia Part I.

Thanks in advance,
J.P. Brannan
J.P.Brannan@cornell.edu
d8dx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: st890270@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (LUCIFER)
Subject: Re: STTRR 20/20
Reply-To: st890270@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:42:12 GMT

>Next Story:

>Earthside... the ENTERPRISE crew tries and fails to get some
>rest on Earth while the ship gets repaired.

I'm looking forward to it.
From: genesis@drutx.ATT.COM (Mike Grimm)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: large files
Keywords: missing?
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:52:20 GMT
Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO

For the last two weeks the only postings I've seen have been
the short discussion kind. I haven't seen any long stories.
The last posting of THE RAVEN'S ROAR that I have is Chapter
16. Before that, they were coming rather regularly.
What about these other stories: AEIA, EPIC, & THE GREAT
AMERICAN STAR TREK NOVEL. I seen no postings for these in a
long time. I'm starting to go through withdrawls.

My question is: Are other stories being posted? If so, is
my adminstrator stopping all posting greater than n lines?
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: beuker@hercules.cs.uregina.ca (Craig Beuker)
Subject: STVI:TUC
Reply-To: beuker@hercules.uregina.ca (Craig Beuker)
Organization: University of Regina, Regina, Saskatchewan
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:47:01 GMT


With respect to the question on Valeris getting into kirks quarters so quietly
I don't think the door to his quarters was closed..  if you re-watch the scene
kirk turns around and for a brief moment you can see the enterprise hallways.
and then the screen pans over to his closet(which kirk was facing.) As soon as
he turned his back, valersis COULD have stepped into the doorway to stop it from closing, thus the silent entry..
)
From: jwest@andersen.uucp (Jeffrey A. West)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: More Stories Requested (Please)
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:17:24 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA

Somehow I missed:

ST:USS Cavalier, Chapter 15
Morals Of War Chapters 19 & 20
The Raven's Roar Chapters 11 & 12

Would some kind soul please repost or email
these to me?!

Thanks!!
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Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo)
Subject: Re: my last post
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 06:29:08 GMT

ketzlekc@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU  writes:
> It seems that my local newsreader murdered my original post.
> 
> Question 1: What happened to the signalling devices on the Enterprise's
> doors?  In the episodes and previous movies, as well as ST:TNG the doors
> chime when someone wants in. The doors also audibly hiss when they openned.
> And yet, Valeris (sp) got into Kirk's quarters without so much as a blip!
> 
> Question 2: How was Gorkon's (sp) DAUGHTER, Azetboar (sp), able to be 
> promoted to the Chancellor of the High Council or whatever? Since she was a
> female, this should have made her ineligible in the Klingon Governmental
> System. (As I understand it from movies, episodes, and ST:TNG)
> 
> Again, please mail the answers or thoughts, to:
> 
> 	Kevin C. Ketzler
> 	ketzlekc@hydra.rose-hulman.edu

I only have an answer for question one.  The reason being, if you recall,
is that the door was open.  Kirk had put down a bag in the doorway, so the
doors could not shut.   
-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
				 Jeffrey S. Jo
		Computer Operations, University of Nebraska at Omaha
		             tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu
From: eisimps@cie.uoregon.edu (Eileen Simpson)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: large files
Keywords: missing?
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:16:14 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon Campus Information Exchange

Just a quick note to let folks know that more story is coming:  I've had
some hellish server problems, disc use problems, etc.

Need to get the next chapter edited, will have it up no later than this
weekend, probabbly will have at least 2 posted!

Unless the rn server we use is too busy again!
From: v128juxa@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (SCHUYJUANNAH)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: Worf's son
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:02:00 GMT
Organization: SUNY@Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <5086@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>, krieger@egnext3.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Karen Krieger) writes...
>also has a brother?) What is Data's brother's name? 
Lore.
From: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: Worf's son
Date: 14 Aug 92 00:03:12 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <5086@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> krieger@egnext3.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Karen Krieger) writes:
>I am in the process of naming a litter of puppies and would appreciate it  
>if any of you could tell me the name of Worf's son.

Whinylittlesnotnosedbratthatruinseveryepisodehesin

(aka Alexander Roshenko(sp?))

(Someone told me Worf also has a brother?)

Kern (Kurn?).

>What is Data's brother's name? 

Lore.
--
Dave Schaumann			dave@cs.arizona.edu
From: "dalton spence" <dalton.spence@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: what would you do
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:57:17 EST
Reply-To: "dalton spence" <dalton.spence@canrem.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

In <16165#ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>, darsie@eecs.ucdavis.edu (Richard
Darsie) said the following about Re: What would you do with the
power of the Q ?...

RD>I'd give it back cause I'm not ready for it (anymore than Q is,
RD>apparently). (How's that for a sickeningly responsible answer?)

Not bad, but John Delancie himself did even better.  I asked him
that very question at the recent Toronto Trek VI convention in
(naturally) Toronto.  He didn't happen to have a joke answer ready
for me (which I suppose means I was the first one to ask him that
question).  He said he would "do something for the children,"
although what children he didn't specify (the implication was
children everywhere).  I guess even the omnipotent can be cliched.

Because this is a.s.c, I figure I should come up with some sort of

STORY IDEA: Q, becoming bored with the Star Trek continuum, decides
to explore some nearby universes.  Coming across ours, he is shocked
and somewhat annoyed at the portrayal of his character in the TNG
television series.  Then he has an idea (a wonderful, awful idea)!
He dumps John Delancie (in costume) on the bridge of the Enterprise,
and takes his place on the TNG set.

On the Enterprise, John Delancie | On the TNG set, Q finds that
has to convince Picard and his   | acting is a lot tougher than it
crew that he is not only NOT Q,  | looks.  Refusing to fail at a
but that he is an actor from a   | human pursuit, he uses his
parallel 20th century Earth.     | powers to give Q a better part
The crew would then have to deal | in the story currently being
with the idea that anything they | filmed.  The regular cast figure
do, no matter how private, might | out what's going on, and try to
be broadcast to a whole world.   | convince Q it would be better
It might also lead them to       | for his own reputation if he put
wonder about just how "real"     | things back the way they are
their reality actually is.       | supposed to be.  Possible plot
Possible plot complication:      | complication: Q casually uses
John Delancie has to impersonate | his powers to avert a tragedy,
Q to intimidate some hostile     | and is confronted with genuine
aliens.                          | gratitude for the first time.

I am not much of a writer myself (no need to agree so LOUDLY!) so I
will leave the writing of this story to those who are.  Yes, this
was inspired by "Visit to a Weird Planet Revisited" by Ruth Berman
(from STAR TREK: THE NEW VOYAGES,  Bantam Books, (C) 1976).

/ Dalton S. Spence  UUCP: canrem!dalton.spence  RIME: ->CRS \
\ Scarborough, Ont. Internet: dalton.spence@canrem.com      /
---
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World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: learnd@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Dave Learn)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative,rec.arts.poems
Subject: Ode to Enterprise
Keywords: Poem, short
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:13:27 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: na
Organization: Lehigh University


An Ode to Enterprise                                                            
                                                                                
a beautiful lady,                                                               
whom we've come to love,                                                        
gracefully glides like a bird in flight,                                        
like a majestic avian                                                           
through the starlit night,                                                      
going where none have gone on before                                            
born of base iron, she touches                                                  
the highest of the heavens                                                      
she soars where our                                                             
imaginations fly free,                                                          
straight as an arrow,                                                           
for our hearts                                                                  
a golden-eyed eagle with a crew                                                 
of thirty and four hundred,                                                     
a robin torn from her red plumage--                                             
though she die, though she pass on,                                             
she will live, even thrive                                                      
while the spirit of enterprise                                                  
lives on in our hearts


Dave Learn, Knight of the Wolves         "What an extraordinary thing to
dl20@lafayacs.bitnet                      do--and you only a stutterer."
From: scduncan@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Sean C. Duncan, Idiot)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: STTNG Officers Manual
Date: 16 Aug 92 16:13:39 GMT
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <1992Aug16.052326.10098@news.unomaha.edu>, tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo) writes:
> landrews@wiz.outb.wimsey.bc.ca  writes:
>> >       Does anyone know if it is possible to get a copy of the:
>> >
>> >       S        T:TNG Officers Manual   ?
>> >
>> >       Apparently it is a technical guide to the workings of all systems
>> >and operations of the Federation ships...
>> 
>> If it matters to you, I believe the Officers Manual (which I have) is deemed "unreliable and incorrect".
>> 
>> You are better off getting the Technical Guide (I have forgotten the exact title) written by the show's two technical advisors.
>> 
>> --- Via UCI v1.02 (C-Net Amiga)
>> 
>>   |_ucky |_uke/*/Luke Andrews
>> =-----------------------------=
>> landrews@wiz.outb.wimsey.bc.ca.
> I think the Technical giude you are talking about is the Starlog Star Trek:
                                                           ^^^^^^^
                                                           ???????

> The Next Generation Technical Journal.  Cost: $6.95.  It came out about the
                                                ^^^^^
                                                ?????

> time Gene Roddenberry died.  I haven't seen to many lately, but you might find
> them at a bookstore or a place that sells a lot of sci-fi stuff.  If you want
> an address where to get a copy, E-mail me and I'll find it for ya.

Uh.... I've never heard of this before.  The "Official" TNG Technical Guide
is not put out by Starlog and costs closer to $10 (at least where I got it).
It is by Mike Okuda and Rick Sternbach, the technical consultant/art guys
for TNG and their word is the closest to canon you're going to get on
technical matters.  I got mine at a Waldenbooks.  They're everwhere, not
just "sci-fi" stores.  Go get it!

Plus, this thread does not belong here.  Please talk about creative postings
or take this to r.a.s.tech or r.a.s.misc.  Thanks.

Later,
> 					Jeffrey Jo
-- 
Sean C. Duncan, scd@einstein.bgsu.edu :: scduncan@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
"On his way back to the lobby, his cigarettes forgotten, he had to walk the
length of the ranked phones.  Each rang in turn, but only once, as he passed."
                                              - William Gibson
_______________________________________________________________________
From: gooseman@news.uwyo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: RE: Note #1029
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:40:33 GMT
Organization: University of Wyoming - Laramie, WY

Hi,

     If I may make a suggestion, instead of using minitures to simulate
starship combat, I would use Starship Tactical Combat Simulator, from
FASA's Star Trek Role Playing Game.

					John Brengman
					gooseman@corral.uwyo.edu