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From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: Media bias
Keywords: bias
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:44:59 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.214352.12454@genie.slhs.udel.edu> tom@genie.slhs.udel.edu (tom) writes:
>In article <1992Jul26.014344.7537@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>
>}There doesn't seem to be enough granularity here, and I'm not
>}convinced the questions are sufficiently varied to differentiate much.
>}I took the quiz personally, then took it from the Republican,
>}Democrat, and libertarian point of views.  Everything but libertarian
>}wound up hitting right around the center.  That leaves me feeling like
>}this was a quiz put together by libertarians.
>
>yes, this quiz was quite obviously put together by libertarians, and
>with just 5 questions in each catagory it is pretty simplistic. but keep
>in mind that to be useful it must be this simple. if we had 100 questions 
>instead of 10 it would be much less granular, but it would also take
>half an hour to do it, instead of 3 minutes. 
>
>i've given this quiz, and other variants of it, to around 10,000 people
>so far, and i can assure you that it is not biased toward libertarian
>results. somewhere near 25% of the people i've given it to fall in the
>libertarian sector, this is only 5% greater than pure chance. 

That's only a meaningful statement if you honestly believe that 25% of
Americans are 'libertarian' (I don't think so) or that they are
answering by sheer chance (I don't think so).  I think you will get
unrealistically large numbers of libertarians on this quiz because
people won't think about the implications of the questions and because
the things the questions ask don't give you a good reflection of what
most of the 'libertarians' I've known believe -- there's a lot more to
it than the easily sold 'rights' issues.


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From: rovero@oc.nps.navy.mil (Josh Rovero)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: What's wrong with being a liberal?
Date: 20 Jul 92 23:38:56 GMT
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA

Like George McGovern (on videotape) talking to delegates and assuring them
that Clinton has to run moderate to implement liberal ideas *AFTER* he's
elected.

Sounds like bait and switch to me (illegal under most state's consumer
protection codes, but hey, doesn't apply to politicians.....)

If Clinton was serious about changing things, he wouldn't be asking for the
same old democratic incumbents in Congress to get reelected.  But he isn't.
If Clinton wins and the demos have a majority in both houses, it won't be
pretty for anyone who pays taxes.

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From: barkema0332@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Does Rush reply to Internet?
Date: 29 Jul 92 05:20:20 GMT
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Jul26.222747.5688@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, an565@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gregory Grosshans) writes:
> 
> In a previous article, U13054@uicvm.uic.edu (Howard Wachtel) says:
> 
>>
>>   For those of us who have neither the time nor the financial resources
>>to subscribe to CompuServe, does Rush even read (much less respond to)
>>e-mail sent to his CompuServe account from the Internet?  Some time ago
>>I recall one poster stating that Rush simply deletes all such mail.
> 
> Yes, he occasionally does reply.  I mailed him a message a few months ago
> via internet, and he responded promptly.  It was about the local radio
> station that carries his show.
>  
> -- 
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Hello out there, I'm a new reader and user of this system, but I am also a big
fan of "The most dangerous man in America today."  
I was just wondering if someone could give me info on how to get a hold of
Rush, because my mother's maiden name is Limbaugh and I've always wondered if
there was any relation.

Thanks for your patience with what is undoubtedly a boring post to most people. 
I would really appreciate the help.

New Reader and Fan,
Wyn Barkema
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: kucharsk@solbourne.com (William Kucharski)
Subject: Re: rush compuserve
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc., Longmont, CO
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:54:12 GMT

While reading article <1992Jul22.053203.5948@ddsw1.mcs.com>, I noticed that
arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling) said the following:
 >I presume you will have gotten his number by now but I am curious to know
 >if anyone has ever gotten a response from Rush on Compuserve.  I would be
 >very surprised to know that he even reads his email.

Actually, I have.  Thank you for asking.

 >His Compuserve hype is right up there with Snapple.  Has anyone ever tasted
 >that rubbish?  It is nothing but flavored sugar water.

I like it.  The Snapple Fruit Punch is quite nice, actually.
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From: nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: BACK TO LIMBAUGH'S NONAGENDA
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:38:30 GMT
Organization: Psych Department, Indiana University

arf@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Jack Schmidling) writes:
> Why does Rush refuse to talk about Israel?

    I find it incredible to believe that you can seriously ask that 
question considering the vitriolic flame war in which you've been 
involved. I would think that, given your recent experience, the 
question would answer itself.

--
Nathan Engle                        Software Juggler
Psychology Department               Indiana University
nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu      nengle@copper.ucs.indiana.edu
From: rovero@oc.nps.navy.mil (Josh Rovero)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: The price of freedom
Date: 25 Jul 92 06:46:20 GMT
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA

It was a bunch of DEMOCRATS in the house, including Jim Wright of Texas 
and Freddy St. Germaine who also pushed for S&L deregulation.  Seems 
they had a few greedy friends too......

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Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: kucharsk@solbourne.com (William Kucharski)
Subject: Re: Media bias
Keywords: bias
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc., Longmont, CO
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:51:02 GMT

While reading article <1992Jul22.164951.22822@umbc3.umbc.edu>, I noticed that
alex@umbc4.umbc.edu (Alex S. Crain) said the following:
>	Yup. It's not the liberals fault that they're just more talented
>then conservatives, though. If conservatives could spell better, then
>maybe there would be more conservative writers.

Please, let's not degenerate into a liberal/conservative spelling war.

>	Seriously: Why are reporters/editors so "liberal". Were they 
>brainwashed? Are conservatives really just morons? Maybe Elvis comes
>down in a spaceship and touches journalists on the forehead, pushing
>them leftward.

I'm not sure.  From what I saw when I was in school it just seems that liberals
fit in better in the field and get along better with the predominantly liberal
management (or at least editorial staffs) of most media outlets.  The more
liberal students, with their "never trust the government" and "we must help
these poor <insert cause> folks" were smiled upon by their teachers and TAs,
while the more conservative students were looked at as "brainwashed by the
establishment."

By the way, the school in question was the University of Wisconsin - Madison,
and I knew J-school students that worked for both the Daily Cardinal (far left)
and Badger Herald (far right).

>	This is better then the JFK assasination - maybe you can get
>some right wing director to make it into a hit movie?

Nah -- it's easier to just rewatch the _Nova_ episode from a few years ago.
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Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling)
Subject: Re: rush compuserve
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 05:32:03 GMT
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In article <1992Jul21.060649.7146@news.acns.nwu.edu> dish@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Tony Goldish) writes:
>I am new to this group, so don't know if this has already been covered, but
>I know that rush talks on his show all the time about compuserve
>and haveing a compuserve email account. I believe that it
>is possible to use internet to email to compuserve (I know you
>can email to MCI mail, and to america online) so was wondering
>if anyone had done this, what his email address is, and how you went about
>doing it...
>thanks in advance fellow conservatives
>dish@casbah.acns.nwu.edu

ARF says:

I presume you will have gotten his number by now but I am curious to know
if anyone has ever gotten a response from Rush on Compuserve.  I would be
very surprised to know that he even reads his email.

His Compuserve hype is right up there with Snapple.  Has anyone ever tasted
that rubbish?  It is nothing but flavored sugar water.
From: rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal Agitator)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Gore and Horton
Date: 30 Jul 92 13:40:05 GMT
Organization: MAWL - Mudd Alums Without Lives

Does anyone out there have any quote that Gore used in the 1988
campaign against Dukakis mentioning Willie Horton?

This is a request to any potential caller to please ask Rush for a
verbatim quote by Gore in 1988.

E-mail preferred,

Thanx in advance,

Agitator
  #->

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From: jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Does Rush reply to Internet?
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:08:01 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <92205.151243U13054@uicvm.uic.edu> Howard Wachtel <U13054@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>In article <txfm
>>
>>In article <1992Jul22.053203.5948@ddsw1.mcs.com> arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack
>>Schmidling) writes:
>>>I presume you will have gotten his number by now but I am curious to know
>>>if anyone has ever gotten a response from Rush on Compuserve.  I would be
>>>very surprised to know that he even reads his email.
>
>
>>As to CompuServe, I have
>>received replies to some of my email, and I know of others who have as well.
>
>   For those of us who have neither the time nor the financial resources
>to subscribe to CompuServe, does Rush even read (much less respond to)
>e-mail sent to his CompuServe account from the Internet?  Some time ago
>I recall one poster stating that Rush simply deletes all such mail.

From what I have heard, he reads all mail that appears in his mailbox, 
with the exception of some mailing lists that he has managed to get on. 
Replying to the Internet, however, is 50-50 in my experience; when I 
send messages to myself and try to reply, or reply to those who 
have sent messages to me, I have poor success. Plus I get charged 
extra both for receiving and sending messages to the Internet. All 
in all, Internet<-->CIS is not 100% reliable.
-- 
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                           | Gammera's full of turtle meat, 
74076.1250@Compuserve.com  | We all love you, Gammera."
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From: best@anasazi.com (Mike Best)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Presidential Line-Item Veto Power
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:18:13 GMT
Organization: Anasazi Inc, Phoenix AZ USA

In article <1992Jul24.054130.13285@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
>   The July 27 issue of U.S. News, in an article on Bush's political campaign
>strategies, mentioned that insiders in the GOP are prodding Bush to consider
>"imposing large-scale budget cuts unilaterally through a line-item veto, 
>provoking a constitutional fight with Congress."  Does anyone know anything 
>more about this?  I have heard talk before that the President might actually
>have line-item veto power already, that it had just never been tested, and
>that if a President were to try to use this power it might actually be upheld
>by the Supreme Court.  IMO, line-item veto power for the President would be
>the best development since the origination of the Constitution itself.
>

You are exactly on target.  This would be a valuable tool to reestablish 
the balance of power between the legislature and the executive as the
Founders intended.  The Congress would be forced to finally do their job
again by actually voting on the merrits of items on an individual basis.
The congress would, should the executive veto an item, still have the 
ability to override veto.  This is a qualified, not an absolute veto and
instead of the onerous and less likely to be used veto we would have an
active relationship between the two branches.  

The Founders debated this executive veto extensively and they wanted neither
a weak veto nor one which is too strong.  The line item would fulfill the
original intent.

Or the Congress could redefine the nature of a Bill.


Mike Best
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.marrou,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush
From: shaffer@achilles.ctd.anl.gov (Michael A. Shaffer)
Subject: Re: Media bias
Keywords: bias
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:01:02 GMT

[ Introductory stuff deleted ]

>Personal Freedom:
>
>Whose decision should it be                My      Not     Gov't
>whether or not you:                     Decision   Sure   Decides
>
>-  Wear a Seatbelt or Helmet?             ____     ____     ____
>-  Own a gun?                             ____     ____     ____
>-  Become a soldier?                      ____     ____     ____
>-  Help the needy?                        ____     ____     ____
>-  Pay for sex?                           ____     ____     ____
>-  Have a baby?                           ____     ____     ____
>-  Smoke dope?                            ____     ____     ____
>-  Send your child to school?             ____     ____     ____
>-  Swim nude?                             ____     ____     ____
>-  Buy a pornographic book or video?      ____     ____     ____

I saw this in th ILL. Libertarian. Unfortunatly I couldn't take the
test because at least two of the questions are too vague.

1. Have a baby? -- I presume that have an abortion or not is what they
                   are getting at but they are not explicit enough. Even
                   if it were phrased that way however it is not a very
                   good indicator. If one really believes that the Fetus
                   is just a lump of tissue (or and aggressor) then the
                   Libertarian answer is "my decision" if not the answer
                   is "gov't decides".

                   Also the question does not specify whether we are
                   talking about an adult or a minor. If a minor then
                   the choices may well be "gov't decides" or "my parent's
                   choice".

2. Swim nude?   -- Hmmm... Are we talking in public or on private property.

A usefule test all in all but it could use some cleaning up and
clarification.

BTW my score...

>Whose decision should it be                My      Not     Gov't
>whether or not you:                     Decision   Sure   Decides
>
>-  Wear a Seatbelt or Helmet?             _X__     ____     ____
>-  Own a gun?                             _X__     ____     ____
>-  Become a soldier?                      _X__     ____     ____
>-  Help the needy?                        _X__     ____     ____
>-  Pay for sex
    (assuming discreet marketing)?         _X__     ____     ____
>-  Have an Abortion?                      ____     ____     _X__
>-  Smoke dope?                            _X__     ____     ____
>-  Send your child to school?             _X__     ____     ____
>-  Swim nude(on private property)?        _X__     ____     ____
>-  Buy a pornographic book or video?      _X__     ____     ____


				mike
From: steve@celia.UUCP (Steve Tyree)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Global Warming, again (was Re: Media bias)
Keywords: bias
Date: 24 Jul 92 23:21:43 GMT
Reply-To: celia!steve@usc.edu (Steve Tyree)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rhythm & Hues, Inc., Hollywood


 Heres some humor for all you dittoheads.

 The next time your harrassed by a Big Government Global Warming Chicken
Little, tell him that his heros in the 70's were right. The earth is head-
ing into an ice age dude. Its our man made global warming gases which are
preventing the ice age from occurring. So everythings cool man !!!

 Steve Tyree - These opinions are mine and mine alone.
               Out of town for a while. Have fun !
From: nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Rush Limbaugh?
Summary: Who is Rush Limbaugh?
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:06:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: psygate.nate.403
Organization: Psych Department, Indiana University

varvel@plains.NoDak.edu (Andrew Varvel) writes:
>Excuse me, but precisely who or what is Rush Limbaugh?
>(or for that matter carasso or gooley?)

    He's a conservative radio talk show host whose show reaches about 
12 million listeners. He has an extremely self-confident style which is 
sometimes mistaken for arrogance, and he's very outspoken in his opinions 
which are sometimes mistaken for hate-mongering.

    Words are, however, insufficient to do justice to the man or to his 
program. Chances are his program is carried on a station near you. Check 
the station list in the FAQ post if you're interested in hearing what 
you've been missing.

--
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Psychology Department               Indiana University
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Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: dish@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Tony Goldish)
Subject: rush compuserve
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 06:06:49 GMT

I am new to this group, so don't know if this has already been covered, but
I know that rush talks on his show all the time about compuserve
and haveing a compuserve email account. I believe that it
is possible to use internet to email to compuserve (I know you
can email to MCI mail, and to america online) so was wondering
if anyone had done this, what his email address is, and how you went about
doing it...
thanks in advance fellow conservatives
dish@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Xref: sparky alt.rush-limbaugh:3111 sci.environment:10033
From: arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,sci.environment
Subject: Re: Forests Increasing
Date: 26 Jul 92 15:50:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: ddsw1.1992Jul26.155021.5760
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL
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 Article 3611 (99 more) in alt.rush-limbaugh:
 From: yaros@sab57.larc.nasa.gov (Steve Yaros)
 
 >In the July 11th issue of the English weekly "New 
 Scientist", there is an article on page 10 stating that "The 
 forests of Europe, North America...have expanded so much in 
 the past four decades that they are counteracting the
 greenhouse effect..."
 
 >Does this mean what Rush has been saying about more forests 
 in the US now than in the past could possibly be true???  
 Can we expect this news to be on the first page of the New 
 York Times or the Washington Post???
 
 ARF says:
 
 It may very well be true but the reason it will not be on 
 the front page of the NYT is that it is not news, it is 
 Conservative disinformation.
 
 The absolute number of trees or acres of forest have little 
 to do with either global warming or biodiversity.
 
 The "forests" that are increasing are tree farms.  They are 
 nothing but tall corn fields that are replacing ancient 
 trees of wide diversity and skyscraping heights with fast 
 growing pine trees that are cut as soon as they get to a 
 commercial length.
 
 In a typical tropical forest, there are over 100 DIFFERENT 
 species of trees per acre and millions of interdependent 
 secies of plants and animals.  In a tree farm, there is one 
 and little or no other life.
 
 When conservatives and other grow or die maniacs tell us 
 that there is no difference between a tree farm and an 
 ancient forest, they are scientifically illiterate at best 
 and dishonest at worst.
 
 Take a walk in a cornfield sometime.  Then take a walk in 
 one of our "National Forests".  The only difference is you 
 might get sunburn in the cornfield.  They are equally devoid 
 of biodiversity.
 
 arf
 
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: yaros@sab57.larc.nasa.gov (Steve Yaros)
Subject: Forests Increasing 
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:48:27 GMT

In the July 11th issue of the English weekly "New Scientist", there is an
article on page 10 stating that "The forests of Europe, North America...have
expanded so much in the past four decades that they are counteracting the
greenhouse effect...".  This trend in reforestation is seen as continuing in
Europe, North America, and the (ex-)Soviet Union.

Does this mean what Rush has been saying about more forests in the US now
than in the past could possibly be true???  Can we expect this news to be
on the first page of the New York Times or the Washington Post???

(Hint:  the answers are "yes" and "no", respectively).

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