From: javad@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Agha Javad)
Subject: Re: An answer to Javad. ( Iran And Aids)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:12:15 GMT
Organization: LabaniyyAtee-e-Sar-e-Koocheh

In article <sehari.724627965@class1.iastate.edu> sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:
>In <1992Dec17.181444.24063@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com> javad@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Agha Javad) writes:
>
>>In article <sehari.724560430@vincent1.iastate.edu> sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:
>>>---
>>>
>>>You really off man, way off.  When even the inventors of free sex have
>>>publicly acknowledged that the only way to stay free from this disease is
>>>to have good family values.  You still advocating that Iran should open it's
>>				^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>door to free sex!
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>>I challenge you to bring a shred of evidence that I said such a thing.
>
>Read your Previous article, or the article I've just posted.  If you can not
>still find it, let me know to post it for you.

Neither I can find it, nor can you, because it isn't there!

>
>>I said that it is better with society to deal with and be able to discuss
>>the subject of human sexuality, so that there is an increased awareness amongst
>>the young people, so that just in case they engage in such activities, (and
>
>The discussion about sex is free, and as mater of fact it is being discussed
>in high schools in biology , and reliogous courses.  As a mater of fact non of
>playboy's articles come close to what you can find in "Helyat-ol motaghin".
>However, performing sex acts in public is not permitted.

This is a reasonable position with which I have little or no argument.
All I say is that there should be no taboo about these things.

>
>>believe me, they do, you yourself are an example), they cause less damage,
>
                 [ some irrelevant materials deleted ]
>>>
>>>Well, I guess Koran said it right on the sorah "kaferon":
>>>
>>>Tell, all non believers:
>>>
>>>"You do not believe on what we believe, and we do not believe on what you
>>>believe.  You follow your ways, and we follow ours."
>>>
>
>>I would be glad to, but you don't allow me, which is why I left my country.
>
>You are contradicting yourself.  You say you left the country, now you are
>following your ways.

Need I clarify that I had to leave my country in order to follow my ways,
or would you like to say I am contradicting myself again? That's the
point- You are allowed to be only one way in our country, whether you like
it or not.  You are no more Iranian than I am, and I should have the right
to exist in a way which does not harm others. (I as well as many others,
am not)

>
>>So IRI seems to have shifted from "You follow your ways, and we follow ours",
>>to "We follow our ways, and the hell with you, we'll kill you".  So much
>>for the "believers".  Just like South Africa man, label your opponents as
>>"kafir", and torture and kill them.
>
>You are free to do any thing you want to do in Kafar country, not in our
>country. 

Just like South Africa- you're free as long as you're not a "kafir".  FYI,
it is MY country just as much as yours, and you can NEVER change that, no matter
how many of us you kill, torture, and expel.

>
>>>You go ahead expose yourself to all the diseases in the world, and we
>>>practice marriage.
>
>>First of all, the only "marriage" you've practiced is "temporary marriage",
>>and if I were you, I'd get an AIDS test real soon.  Second of all,
>>you're not the only people in the world who believe in marriage and
>>values, so stop acting like it.
>
>First of all, we are thinking to go permanent soon.  Why do you think,
>we have not tested before we started more than 4 years ago?
>

Congratulations!! (bada bada mobarak, badaa, eeshala mobarak bada!!)

>                        With highest regards,
>                             Babak   Sehari.
>
>-- 


with highest respects/sympathies/sincerities/praise/regards too,


Agha Javad 
(with help from Jalal Ahmad)