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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Thursday, 23 Jul 1992 09:19:09 EDT
From: <IO70961@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject:    Hypercard + Butler (DAL)????

Hello *********

I need to know if anyone out there has done any mixing of Hypercard
and Butler (Butler is a Database Server that uses the DAL language)
I have a Hypercard front end that needs to talk to the Butler server.

I have heard of the XCMD's from Everywhere Development Software does
anyone no if they are any good?

Do you know of another way to do this? What do you recommend?
Program linking?

any advice or information on this topic would be greatly appreciated
please send responses to my email address.Thanks for taking the
time to respond. :)

Steve Bennett
University of Maine
IO70961@maine.maine.edu
Steve_Bennett@knxmail.umeres.maine.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: s3583045@titan.ucc.umass.edu (John Greene)
Subject: Re: Printing labels from an address stack
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:32:16 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.054851.14360@news.cs.indiana.edu> John Lacey <johnl@spinner.cs.indiana.edu> writes:
>My sister has a rather large address stack, and she would like to be
>able to print address labels.
>
>Any ideas what she needs in terms of scripts, software, printer?
>

The print stack option can tile cards on a page, so if you do a little
quick math you can match the dimensions of your card size to that of the
labels.  For example.... I just wrote a stack whose card size is 384x144.
If I print the stack at half size with the proper margins, my addresses
print perfectly on the standard 10x3 label pages!


>She will be buying a printer within the month, probably a Stylewriter
>or a DeskWriter.  Is this possible or impossible with either or both
>of those?

The printer itself shouldn't matter.  The system and printer driver should
take care of all that stuff.

>
>Should she abandon HyperCard and buy one of the myriad of address and
>label utilities?

No way!  Hypercard rules!  :-)

>John Lacey        ``What's wrong with my style is not a lack of expressiveness
>                    or lucidity, but vulgarity.''                --G. H. Hardy

-jg

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From: ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Apple QT XCMDS and SuperCard 1.6
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:41:42 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Jul29.010607.5690@trl.oz.au>, loh@shiva.trl.OZ.AU (Roger Loh) writes:
> Hello SuperCard & HyperCard users!
>
> I have recently managed to use the Apple QTMovie XCMD in both HyperCard
> and SuperCard 1.6.  Fine.  However, I cannot seem to get the QTPict XCMD
> working under SuperCard.  It will work with HyperCard and even the
> CompressPict command works with SuperCard but not the DisplayPict
> command.

Does QTPict insist on displaying the picture in a separate XWindow? I gather
XWindows are not currently supported in SuperCard.

> p.s. I'd use HyperCard to do this if only I could detect updatewindow
>      messages (which SuperCard supports) so the pictures could be redrawn
>      when the card is revealed from behind moved or closed windows.

I've long felt that this was an inexplicable omission too. I expected it to
be added in 2.0, but perhaps the HyperCard folks felt that having your own
external windows was just as good. I'm not entirely convinced...

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: +64-7-856-2889
Computer Services Dept                     fax: +64-7-838-4066
University of Waikato            electric mail: ldo@waikato.ac.nz
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
To someone with a hammer and a screwdriver, every problem looks like a
nail with threads.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: slanka@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Ishantha Lokuge)
Subject: Video accelerator card, how fast?
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:15:50 GMT


Hi!

Does anyone out there know if a futura SX/8 video accelerator
card will have a big (10 fold) impact in terms of speed for a 
supercard app. (dragging color graphics) on a macIIfx. ANy help
suugestions will be greatly appreciated.

I need to incerase the speed in the app. so that when graphic
objects are being dragged on mouse down, they actually move in real
time. I tried many suggestions on incroving the script but it hasnt 
helped me much...

-Thanks!

Ishantha.
email: slanka@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu
From: wwarner@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Art Warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: FAQ wanted (including Quicktime Xcmd usage)
Date: 25 Jul 92 20:04:50 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

>I would also like a faq copy, please.  I don't know who to ask.
ditto.
Please tell where the Claris/Apple Xcmd for hypercard can be found.

THANKS
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From: jpugh@apple.com (Jon Pugh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Shutdown?
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:42:27 GMT
Organization: Apple Co.

In article <l6leu0INNa8j@news.bbn.com>, mfidelma@diamond.bbn.com (Miles R. Fidelman) writes:
> 
> Anybody know how to invoke a shutdown from within hypercard, or of an XCMD/XFCN
> than provides this capability?

My FinderEvents XCMD does this.  You can find it on ftp.apple.com as
/pub/pugh/hyperstuff/finderevents121.cpt.hqx

This performs an identical function to pulling down the Finder's Shutdown
menu item.  It will still stop for save dialogs, etc. if there are unsaved
docs or programs that are obnoxious.

It also performs a large variety of other functions, including launching
applications on remote machines.

Jon
From: shawn@cars.com (Shawn Connelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: HyperCard Memory Squashing
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 11:26:49 EDT
Organization: Connelly Automation Research and Services
Reply-To: shawn@cars.com
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4

I've been having a curious problem and thought someone here might have
some insight as to it's cause and solution.

I'm working on an SE/30 running System 7.0.1 with Tune-up 1.1.1 and
many extensions, cdevs and assorted fun play things. After starting
up HyperCard, and bringing up the 'About This Macitosh...' dialog from
the Finder, I find that HyperCard has 2048k alotted in RAM. Everything's
OK with the world.

Then, after starting up some other applications, and doing other work,
I return to find that the RAM partition for HC has been reduced. This
sometimes is not noticed until I find myself in MacsBug, picking up
the pieces. (I use Letters from 925 Software, which won't always keep
track of memory condidtions :( ).

Does anyone have a clue as to what's going on here? This can be very
distressing, especially with unfinished business in other applications.

Thanks,
Shawn

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: ajf1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Allen J. Fisch)
Subject: Daily Activities stack ("to do" list)
Keywords: to do list
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 03:40:11 GMT

	I am looking for a stack called "Daily Activities" that was written 
some time ago.  This is a "to do" list stack, and the main feature that I 
am interested in is the fact that it carries over uncompleted activities into
the next day.  If anyone has this stack, or knows of a good Hypercard bbs
that might have it, please let me know.  Thanks a lot! 

Carmi



-Avi Fisch <ajf1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu>
From: ramorgan@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: XCMD's
Date: 23 Jul 92 13:09:06 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

I'm thinking of buying the "XCMD's for HyperCard" manual to get me started, but I also
want some depth. Does any one have it, and what do you think of it ? Can you
recommend any other manuals (reference) and contacts for them (full contacts would be appreciated,
hey I'm on the other side of the world here !)
Thanx in advance !!.
Rob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: lev@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian S. Lev)
Subject: Re: HYPERCARD BINARIES...WHERE??
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md. USA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:51:00 GMT

In article <3X4ioB3w165w@bluemoon.rn.com>, sauer@bluemoon.rn.com (John Tipshus) writes...
>Is there a HyperCard binaries newsgroup?  I thought this group also had
>them BinHex'd.

I used to enjoy going into comp.binaries.hypercard when I first started
fooling around with the package, but the traffic seems to have dribbled
to a complete halt over the past few months.

Any ideas?

-- Brian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: babb@ucselx.sdsu.edu (babb j)
Subject: find function
Organization: San Diego State University Computing Services
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:46:21 GMT

I'm modifying a script for a stack that stores info from students in a comma 
delimited file. I want to filter any comma's out of the field before the
field's info is written to the file. I scripted:

on returnInField
  find chars ","
  if result is empty then
    answer "Sorry, no comma's allowed" with "Darn!" 
  end if 
end returnInField 

1) If there's a comma in the field, the whole field is selected, not just
the comma. I'd like to just delete a selected comma at that point. BUT... 

2) If there is NO comma, Hypercard goes to an Audio card!!! This card  
isn't even the next card, it's #14 and the field & handler are on card 
#9. Card IDs aren't close either. I checked out the mesg watcher and saw... 

openField
  keyDown
  returnInField
    find
      closeCard
        put
      closeBackground
      openBackground
      openCard            
        SndList
	.
	.
	.
I can't figure out why the find routine is closing the card and opening
another (seemingly) unrelated one when there's no comma!!??!!
Any ideas?  
Jeff.
babb@ucselx.sdsu.edu
 
-- 
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Language Acquisition Resource Center (L.A.R.C.) (619)594-4475 
babb@ucsvax.sdsu.edu  
.."now go away or I shall taunt you a second time" M.P.& T.H.G. 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: waanders@umich.edu (Nicholas Waanders)
Subject: Re: Setting File TYPE & CREATOR of created files
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 00:26:19 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan

In article <1992Jul27.171638.23170@aimla.com>, mike@optimla.aimla.com
 (Mike Diehr) writes:
> 
> Is there any way to set the TYPE and CREATOR of files created by
> hypercard's "open file X ; write X to file fileName" commands?
> I'd like to make the text files double-clickable into MPW instead
> of teachtext.
>
In my investigation, there is no xcmd which will take a given file and
change its TYPE and CREATOR.  However, there are xcmds which give you
more options for opening files, such as Rinaldi's FullSFPack (SF refers
to the standard file dialog).  However, even FullSFPack does not let you
"type" the file.  The only XCMD that I know of to do what you want is 
the WRITETOFILE xcmd which is part of the Dartmouth 3.4.3 set.

Nick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.apps
From: slanka@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Ishantha Lokuge)
Subject: Supercard: Dragging objects in Browse mode
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:34:52 GMT


Hello!

I've written script to drag a graphic object while in Browse mode
but the speed is quite slow and there is a time lag between the mouse moving
and the graphic moving. I do the following:

On mouseStilldown
   Global X,Y    /* Displacement of object to mouse loc*/
   put mouseH() - X into X1
   put mouseV() - Y into Y1
   move graphic ZZZ to X1,Y1 jump 1
End MouseStilldown


I would greatly appreciate if anyone out there has a better soulution
for moving quite complex (grouped) graphic objects fast, while the mouse
is down and is moving. Thanks a lot for any suggestions.

-Ishantha.
email: slanka@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: greer@skorpio.usask.ca (Jim Greer)
Subject: Subscripts and Superscripts
Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:23:55 GMT

This may be a FAQ but. . .
How do you make subscript or superscript characters in a hypercard field?
There seems to be no subscript or superscript style.  Is there a font?
Please email replies to 
greer@cs.usask.ca 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.system
From: davis@gauss.enet.dec.com (Peter Davis)
Subject: Compressing fonts?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:19:22 GMT


Is there any way to effectively compress bitmap, TrueType and PostScript Type
1 fonts, and still have them be accessible as needed?  I'm running AutoDoubler
on my system (System 7, IIsi), but it doesn't touch anything in the system
folder.  I have a lot of fonts on the system, and I want to add still more,
but they take up lots of disk space.

Thanks.

                   /
                  /
        /  /  /  /		Peter Davis,	Digital Equipment Corp.
       /  /  /  /				davis@3d.enet.dec.com
      /__/__/__/
     /
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: craig@monster.saic.com (Craig Lewis)
Subject: Arabic System 7.0
Reply-To: craig@monster.saic.com.UUCP (Craig Lewis)
Organization: SAIC, McLean, VA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 19:35:01 GMT

Does anyone know how to get the Arabic copy of System 7.0? I have old
copies of the Developers CD-ROM but no CD player :< might it be there too?

Also, the more I think about it, the more I realize there are some real
problems using non-roman character sets like how do I 'edit' documents? 
How do I print them? If they are just PICT images I can just print them
to my Laserwriter, right? I'd appreciate comments from anyone who has
tried this.

					Craig Lewis
					craig@monster.saic.com
From: sie6@quads.uchicago.edu (scott alexander siege)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: new Inside Mac : Pascal or C ?
Date: 23 Jul 92 05:09:43 GMT
Reply-To: sie6@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations


 (Patrick Stadelmann) most innocently writes...
> 
> Does anyone know if the new Inside Mac will be written in C or in Pascal ?
> 

Many responded that it will be written in English with interface in C + Pascal.
Actually, I think it will be in Pascal and C, with the interface in English.

-Scott
From: joe@lamar.colostate.edu (joe carlson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: How do I expand my Mac+
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:25:39 GMT
Organization: Alphanumeric

In article <92205.131753U43610@uicvm.uic.edu>, U43610@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
> 
> I have a Mac + (Hold the Applause ;) -- I'd like to get it to 4 megs.  What
> type of SIMMS do I need?  (1 need 4 1 megs simms, but what specs??)
> -
> Also, I already have an "homebrew" shoebox with a 20 meg hard disk (SCSI)..  I
> would like to get a 40-100 meg disk drive for the Plus..  What kind of SCSI
> hard disk do I need to get?  (Just a plain-jane SCSI drive--pull the old one
> out and put the new one in and format it with silver lining??)   What is the
> procedure?
> -
> Any help is appreciated..
> -
> Internet:  U43610@uicvm.uic.edu
> Kenneth Ameika
> 
> 


    As far as the SIMM's go, the + (and, yes, I'm holding my applause) can 
use any 1 meg chip you care to slap in it.  Although, it can't access anything
faster than, I believe, 120ns.  So, if you put 70ns chips in there, to the
computer they will still be 120ns.  (Apple finally got a clue with the IIci
and designed it so that it won't recognize anything slower than 80ns).  But, 
it's still a good idea to get the fastest ones that you can, so that, in the
unlikely event that you ever decide to upgrade, they will be compatable with
your new machine.
    As far as HD goes, that's a tricky one.  I know that the +'s had some
prob's with SCSI-type thingamadoobers.  There were only ceartin (sp) things
that would work.  You may be able to get an internal drive and put it in the 
case for the other.  But then there are other concerns about termination and
such.  I can't help you much there.
				Just keep in mind that there is a proven formula for the best way to
accelerating, and possibly expanding your +.  it is as followa:

																					** 3.2 meters/second squared **


										just another worthless piece of information,

																									jOe
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 04:20:59 -0400 
From: "Donpaul C. Stephens" <ds8k+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: File sizes, Autodoubler bug?

Auto-Doubler just tries to run invisbly to the finder

The discrepancy could be your actual disk space vs. the uncompressed space
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jesse@cs.UAlberta.CA (Jesse Lee)
Subject: How to reduce the size of catalog/extent file?
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 07:53:40 GMT

Recently I downloaded more than one thousand files to my hard disk
for temporary storage. Later I save them on floppies and delete them 
from my hard disk. Then I discover about 400K of my hard disk space is
gone for the catalog file by running MacTools 2.0. I know as the number
of files of my hard disk increases, the size of the catalog/extent file
will grow. What I do not understand is as the number of files of my hard
disk decreases, these files do not shrink in size.

I know one method to recover those disk space: erase the hard disk and
restore the files. But I certainly do not want to do it.

Any suggestion?

Jesse Lee

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Subject: Random loss of internal drive (SCSI 0) [help!]
From: roessli@sc2a.unige.ch (David C. Roessli)
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:36:04 +0200
Organization: Dpt Anthropology - U of Geneva

I'm currently experiencing the following problem:

	. loss of my internal drive (SCSI 0) at random intervals .

Now, this happens usually when the mac has been on for a while (say anything
between 4 and 8 hours), I insert a disk and suddently, the 'watch-me'
appears, no sound in the disk drive, the finder quits and can't reload
(err 41) - I restart the mac, and the disk with an "?" appears. Run
Norton's Disk Doctor, but no internal drive appears at addr 0 ..

Turn the mac off for say an hour, restart, and everything's okay again (!)
I sometimes got the disk back by opening the hood, and unplugging/replugging
the disk connections (power and data) - but that doesn't work anymore. 
I experiencing this once a day now!!

It seems as if something is overheating, no ? What can it be ?
	. the mac getting old ? 
	. the disk ?
        . the disk controller ?
	. else ?

My configuration is the following:

	MacIIx with a DayStar PowerCache 40MHz
	8Mb RAM, 200Mb LaCie Tsunami (internal disk - a Maxtor actually)
	System 7.0 (british) with TuneUp 1.1.1
	Apple's 4*8 video board, with Apple's 13" Monitor
	Apple's EtherTalk NB card

Any help, hints, ideas, experiences, comments will be more than welcome!!!
:david

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Email roessli@sc2a.unige.ch | Phone +41(22)343-6930 | Fax +41(22)300-0351
From: stevec@Apple.COM (Steve Christensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Sleeping problems in powerbook 170
Date: 25 Jul 92 02:48:22 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA


Except for a low battery case, your PowerBook will not auto-sleep if any of
the following is true:

	- you're plugged in and you selected "don't sleep when plugged in"
	- AppleTalk is active (check the chooser)
	- the modem and/or printer port is currently in use
	- you're doing stuff (mouse clicks, typing, etc.)

Also, applications and other types of software may prevent the PowerBook from
sleeping if they determine that that's a bad thing to do from their point of
view...

steve

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From: David_Goldsmith@taligent.com (David Goldsmith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Windows NT (Not a flame.)
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:42:08 GMT
Organization: Taligent, Inc.

In article <1992Jul21.124631.8584@msc.cornell.edu>,
maynard@esther.msc.cornell.edu (Maynard J. Handley) writes:
> ...We hear about how great object-orientation is (and I
> agree completely- I now shudder at the thought of coding in anything but
> C++) but what does object-orientation for OS get you, that a decent C++ API
> to a traditional OS does not? Ie, what will be in Taligent to make it have
> a hope in hell of competing against two years moment of WinNT?

This is a good question. The primary beneficiaries of an object-oriented
operating system (as opposed to OO wrappers of a conventional OS) are vendors of
hardware and add-on system software: device developers, network software
developers, system software extension providers, and system manufacturers. By
leveraging OO technology for these vendors, you get more of an opportunity for
them to innovate rather than have to grind out clones.

Some people may assert that any good abstract device-driver interface will do
the same thing, but this is similar to the classic argument that OOP is just
data encapsulation (which it isn't). I'm not in charge of leaking confidential
information :-) so I'll just leave everyone to speculate on how to leverage OOP
inside an operating system. Also, note that I'm not an official spokesperson for
Taligent; this information is all available from public talks that Taligent
officials have given.
--
David Goldsmith
Taligent, Inc.
10725 N. DeAnza Blvd., Cupertino, CA  95014-2000
david_goldsmith@taligent.com      (408) 974-8116
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system