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From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: *NEW* TRAVEL INFORMATION -- Kenya
Date: 21 Dec 1992 11:02:48 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL INFORMATION - Kenya
============================================================
KENYA  - CAUTION
 December 18, 1992

Summary:  The Department of State advises U.S. citizens to exercise 
caution when traveling in Kenya because of increased political 
activity in the periods preceding and following the general 
elections scheduled for December 29.  End Summary.

The Kenya government has scheduled general elections for December 
29.  Increased political activity in the periods immediately 
preceding and following the election date may lead to localized 
disturbances that have the potential to disrupt highway travel.  The 
probability of violence, looting and other criminal activity may be 
high during this period.  The American Embassy has advised official 
American employees and dependents that all non-essential travel 
should be avoided during the period immediately following the 
election date, and that employees and dependents who undertake 
non-essential travel at that time do so at their own risk.

Security in the Masai Mara Game Reserve, which had deteriorated in 
1991 and early 1992, has improved due to new security measures 
undertaken by the government of Kenya. Travelers who do not hire 
reputable safari firms or knowledgeable guides or drivers are at 
risk.  Safaris are best undertaken with a minimum of two vehicles, 
so that there is a backup in case of mechanical failure.  Solo 
camping is risky.

In Nairobi, Mombasa, and the coastal beach resorts there is 
widespread street crime, which is mostly of the "grab and run" 
variety, and confidence scams perpetrated by individuals pretending 
to be police or other government agency officials.  Wherever crime 
is a problem, walking alone or walking in public parks, along 
footpaths or beaches at night could result in being victimized.  
There is a high incidence of residential break-ins.

Kenyan currency may not be taken out of the country, and is 
sometimes difficult to exchange for dollars upon departure.  
Destruction of Kenyan currency is also strictly against the law and 
likely to be prosecuted.

The U.S. Embassy in Nairobi and the Consulate in Mombasa are 
prepared to offer more specific information to U.S. visitors.  
Americans may wish to register their presence upon arrival in Kenya. 
 The Embassy is located at the intersection of Moi and Haile 
Selassie Avenues in Nairobi, telephone 011-254-2-334141.  The 
Consulate is located at Palli House on Nyerere Avenue in Mombasa, 
telephone 254-11-315101.

 No. 92-170

This replaces the previous travel advisory dated October 2, 1992, 
to advise U.S. citizens to exercise caution during the periods 
preceding and following the Kenyan general election scheduled for 
December 29, 1992.


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From: dans@panix.com (Dan Simoes)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Ixtapa info wanted
Date: 30 Dec 92 15:00:26 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC


My soon-to-be wife and I will be going to Ixtape, Mexico at the
end of February on our honeymoon.  We'll be staying at the Ixtapa
Palace Resort.

If you have any tips on what to see or avoid, and so forth, please 
send email to either address below.  I'll post a summary in a few days.

Thanks,

| Dan |
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Danix Consulting                                 email: dans@panix.com or
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From: mehtap@cfmu.eurocontrol.be (Mehtap Kologlu)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Train from Europe to Moscow
Date: 22 Dec 92 12:34:11 GMT
Organization: Eurocontrol - Central Flow Management Unit
Originator: mehtap@swan



In article <1glod3INNepr@gap.caltech.edu> Feng Yuan writes:
>Hi,everybody,
>Does anyone know any information about the train from
>Europe to Moscow to Beijing?
>Feng

Once I have heard that there is a train from Hungary to Beijing. If you hear 
more details please send to this newsgroup.

Thanks,

Mehtap
From: Karen Zack <karen@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Puerto Vallarta
Date: 29 Dec 1992 00:17:03 GMT
Organization: Stanford Data Center
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X-XXDate: Mon, 28 Dec 92 21:24:23 GMT

I'm going to Puerto Vallarta in mid-March and would like information on
activities in and around that area, as well as info on hotels, car
rentals, and good/bad experiences you had while there.

Thanks,
Karen Zack
karen@forsythe.stanford.edu
From: yan-dicky@cs.yale.edu (Dicky Yan)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Getting to coastal France from London
Date: 21 Dec 1992 23:09:02 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: usa
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>I will be in London in February next year. While there, I thought we could
>make a quick 3-day trip into France (see Paris, say). Ideally, we would
>like to take the ferry (hovercraft?) from London to Calais or Caen, pick
>up a rental car there and drive to Paris or outskirts.
>
>Fodor's guide does not list any London-coastal France ferry service, though
>they are available from Dover/Folkstone, etc.
>
>1. We want to avoid travelling to Dover for the ferry. Is there a
>ferry from London? If yes, could I have the name of the co.?
>
>(Our other option it to take the bus from London-Paris (via ferry), but
>then again we will need to stay in the city in a reasonable place.)
>
>Thanks.
>
>-Manish Sharma
>...att!trumpet!mks

You can take the train (instead of driving your own car) from central
London to a port in Kent (a few of them are available) and then take
a ferry or a hovercraft to France (again, a few routes exist) and then
get your car or take another train to central Paris.

* You can find information about all these in Victoria Station (cental
  London) and you can buy all these tickets (rail-ferry-rail, rail-hover-rail)
  as a combined ticket.

* The ferry is biger  and slower but it will take cars too. Not sure whether
  the hovercarft will take cars. I guess not.

* When you said a "3-day" trip, do you mean 3 days including the time spent
  on traveling? It may be a bit short if the 3 days include traveling.
  Versailles (sorry, cannot spell) will take you one day. (Well, it is not
  "in" Paris but near there.) All the good museums ... etc.
  You can save one night's accommodation cost if you take an overnight
  ferry. They usually leave the train station early in the evening and
  reach a  port in Kent before midnight. Then everyone would hunt for a
  spot to sleep.
  You will arrive early next morning. I did this a few times
  and it was okay, except I had to get up in the middle of the night to
  go from the ferry to the rail after passing thru custom. Also, there
  are several routes to go to France from England over the sea.
  They vary a bit in
  traveling time, may be you should check this up. I think it is a shorter
  trip to go to Calis  than to Dieppe.

* May be next time you go to Paris from London, life will be easier.
  Does anyone know when the chunnel will
  really start working? If it is working, life would be easier. I guess  then
  you can take a train from London directly to France and have a good sleep
  and arrive early in the morning.

Dicky.
From: cooper@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Lynette Cooper)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Lake Tahoe, Calif. in July
Date: 28 Dec 92 20:28:17 GMT
Reply-To: cooper@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Lynette Cooper)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Annapolis MD

My family is having a reunion this July at Lake Tahoe, California.
There will be about 20 people, all probably wanting to do something
different.  I was wondering what interesting things there are to do
or see that are within a day's drive (roundtrip).  Any and all info
is appreciated.  Thanks.

Lynn Cooper
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From: jpenovic@encore.com (Jan Penovich)
Subject: Re: Florida Attractions reopening
Reply-To: jpenovic@encore.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:40:38 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.201218.15120@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>,
haney@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (HANEY PATRICIA J) writes:
> In article <BzCwD4.8L3@encore.com> jpenovic@encore.com writes:
> >For those of you coming to Florida, several of the hurricane
> >damaged attractions in South Florida are reopening this week.
> >
> >The Miami Metro Zoo is reopening on Friday.  It will be
> >approximately 85% open.  The aviary, koala, and elephant areas
> >are still closed. They lost thousands of trees and the aviary
> >was blown away.
> 
> Did they manage to save the birds?

  Right after the hurricane, I think they said that a lot of
  the birds were hanging around.  I'm not sure what happened
  to them. (I just called the Zoo and heard a recorded message.)

  The koalas were sent up to Busch Gardens in Tampa.
  Evidently, all the Eucalyptus trees were destroyed as was
  their climate controlled habitat. They wouldn't be able to
  survive at Metro Zoo right now.

  Elephants are still there (saw them on the news).

  As a thank you to all those who helped put Metro Zoo back
  together, admission is free to all through Dec. 25.

  On a sad note, the tiger area has been renamed in memory of a
  12 year old girl who used to be a volunteer at the zoo and
  was killed in the hurricane.

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From: olaf@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Re: Pyrenees in March?
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:03:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.234839.12389@casbs.Stanford.EDU>, kathleen@casbs.Stanford.EDU (Kathleen Much) writes:
> What will the weather be like in the eastern Pyrenees (southern
> France) in late March?  Will it be easy to drive in the mountains to
> see the medieval towns and churches?  
> 
> We'd be grateful for recommendations for charming small hotels and
> mouth-watering restaurants in the area.  Is it better to rent a car in
> France or Spain (Barcelona) if we plan to drive in both countries?
> 
> 
> -- 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Kathleen Much, Editor		|E-mail: kathleen@casbs.stanford.EDU
> CASBS, 202 Junipero Serra Blvd.	|Phone: (415) 321-2052
> Stanford, CA  94305		|Fax: (415) 321-1192

A few years ago my wife and I lived for several months in Pau, in
southwestern France within sight of the Pyrenees (the western end of
this chain is more rugged than the end you're interested in). We had
exactly one day of snow that winter, yet in the mountains themselves,
the snow was deep enough to please most ski enthusiasts. In short, the
Pyrenees in March should pose no problems unless you try to get into the
high reaches of the mountains or cross one of the passes into Spain (the
autoroute that heads down into Barcelone doesn't cross any passes; it
passes the eastern flanks of the mountains and is open all year). The
villages in the foothills should easily be accessible.

I can't help so easily with information on car rentals. If you plan to
be there for a week or more, you should seriously consider leasing from
Renault or Citroen or one of the other manufacturers. We leased a
Citroen in Amsterdam this past summer and drove to Finland and back; the 
car cost us about $1500 for a month. Freinds rented a Renault under a 
similar arrangement todrive around France. Contact Renault or Citroen
headquarters in the USA (check the yellow pages or the major city
newspapers). Whether it would be cheaper to rent in Spain, I don't
know. Perhaps other people have suggestions?

AsAs for restaurants, sorry, can't help at all. We had our kids with us 
in 1987/88, and so we ate as cheaply as possible. Pizzerias were our
most frequented restaurants.

Olaf Janzen
Corner Brook, Newfoundland
Canada

987
From: snag@mipos2.intel.com (ITS MERELY A SNAG)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Eurail Pass;Thank you;one more querry
Keywords: eurail
Date: 31 Dec 92 00:21:46 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, CA USA

Hi folks,

Thank you so much for all the information you have sent me -- its 
wonderful info for someone who is starting from scratch.

I do have another question -- and I will post it inspite of the
fact that the answer might seem obvious!!

Well... you guys have been to all these places -- Italy,Spain,
Switzerland,France,Greece,Germany etc. Is it fare to say that
you had acquired a visitor's visa from the respective consulates
of each of these nations prior to departure or is there some simple 
method to that too ??

Thanks again,
Shubho
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From: olaf@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Re: Hotels in Florida Keys area...
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 17:51:14 GMT

In article <ofEPOiC00iV3Q1CIl9@andrew.cmu.edu>, mk69+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Knapp) writes:
> Doesn't anyone get annoyed by these type of requests?  I mean, all you
> have to do is go to a local library, or AAA office, or even call an 800
> number to get this kind of information.  Are these poeple just stupid or
> lazy.  
> 
> 
> my opinion is that this net should not be cluttered with this type of
> info requests that asks for information readily available elsewhere (i
> mean key west is not exactly isolated!!!)
> 
> i will shut up now.
> mark

Sorry Mark, I disagree. I live in Newfoundland, where there is no AAA (
efforts to establish branches invariably fail because our island market
is too small). Moreover, the information I can get from local travel
agents really sucks. They can get you from here to Orlando and Disney
World, but don't ask them for anything really interesting or exotic
about Florida, like where to stay in the Keys. Finally, there's atreal
advantage in getting first hand information from people who have
actually been there. I find such requests for information both
reasonable and appropriate for this newsgroup. I'd be surprised if
most other folks would not agree with me. Any other opinions out there?

Olaf Janzen
Corner Brook
Newfoundland

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: andrew@louie.met.fsu.edu (Andrew Devanas)
Subject: Re: Price of renting a van in Thailand?
Organization: Florida State University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 15:09:46 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.122406.1483@nntp.hut.fi> k34236v@puukko.hut.fi (Paul von Heiroth) writes:
>
>
>Hello everybody.
>
>I am going to Thailand next march with my family and we would
>like to travel around the country by a car or mini-van. 
>
>I am wondering how much it costs to rent a mini-van (we will
>be 8 persons traveling) for about one week. I think that the 
>van should come with the driver because the traffic is not so
>good there.
>
>If anyone has any suggestions about the prices and/or the 
>locations from where to rent a van (in Bangkok), please reply
>here (e-mail is fine, too).
>
>Thank you,
>Paul von Heiroth

Good luck finding a mini-van to rent. I can't remember seeing any mini-vans on
the streets of Bangkok (actually, I do remember seeing ONE). Anyways, rental
prices are comparable to the rental prices in the U.S..
					-Andy
From: phil@BofA.com (Phil Schlesinger)
Subject: Just the FAQs, Please :-)
Organization: Bank of America, Capital Products, RMTG #5906
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 19:35:43 GMT


Will someone please email me the FAQ for rec.travel? Thanks.
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From: jay@trdlnk.uucp (Jay Twery)
Subject: Warm weather and kids
Organization: TradeLink Corp.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 21:15:55 GMT

Hi,
My wife and 2 kids ages 3.5 & 0.6 are looking for a
warm place to spend 2 weeks this winter. I was looking for any
suggestions of suitable place where the kids would be appropriate.

Thanks in Advance,
Jay
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From: josh@Happy-Man.com (Joshua_Putnam)
Subject: Re: Expiring Passport
Reply-To: Joshua_Putnam@happy-man.com
Organization: Happy Man Corp., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 23:31:15 GMT

In <1992Dec30.205856.20732@fid.morgan.com> joec@fid.morgan.com (Joe Collins) writes:

>In article <1992Dec30.181752.17280@ads.com> henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch) writes:
>>lm00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Louise B. McFeaters) wrote: 
>>->Yes, mine is soon (May) going to expire, and I have to use it in Jan.
>>->and in Mar. How do you get a new passport (USA) quickly? Thanks for
>>->responding.
>>
>>you go to the local passport office with ticket showing impending
>>departure in hand.  they can turn your new passport around in 24
>>hours.

>Just so you know....YES they can do this but it will be a nightmare:

[horror story deleted]

>If you must go in person, bring PLENTY of documentation, bring $100 or so
>in cold cash, bring 2 clear identical photos of the individual (they must
>be a certain size etc), bring reading material or a walkman (to while away
>the hours) and bring a chair - there is no place to sit while you spend
>many hours on line. Call ahead to get the forms you need to bring BEFORE 
>you go. Those forms have all the instructions you need to know BEFORE you go.

When I did this in Seattle, the whole process, including filling
in the forms at the passport office, took under two hours, and
the passport was in the mail the next day.  I did not request
urgent service, as my departure was still several months away.

My documentaion consisted of my expired passport and my driver's
license.  This was good both for the passport itself and for the
out-of-town check I wrote to pay the fee.

The only problem I had with the waiting room was that the chairs
were so softly upholstered it was hard to sit up straight and
write legibly while filling in the forms.  I should have picked
up the forms at the local post office, since they're the same
forms used in-office, but I renewed on the spur of the moment
when I had some extra time downtown.

I got my photos just outside the Federal Building at a passport
photo office.  They are set up to take photos to the passport
office's specifications using a Polaroid passport camera -- under
10 minutes door to door.

The only person I saw treated badly came in without documentation
of any kind and refused to wait in line, then insisted on
same-day processing.  After asking him politely to follow the
normal procedure, they asked him (less politely) to leave the
building.
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From: merchant@cbnews.cb.att.com (shahrukh.s.merchant)
Subject: Any suggestions for a few days in Sydney, Australia?
Reply-To: shahrukh_merchant@att.com
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 22:31:59 GMT

I'll be in Sydney for about 4 days from Jan 20-24, 1993.  Any
suggestions for must-sees, etc.  I will have read tour-book type
literature, so I'm especially interested in "non-touristy" things.

Some specific questions:

1. Car rental seems expensive, but I'm willing to go for it if it will
   add significantly to getting the most out of the trip.  Advise?
2. Is there such a thing as local cuisine that's sufficiently distinctive
   that it's worth trying?  Does one eat kangaroo meat--if so, where
   would be a good place for it?

Basically, ANY tips, experiences or suggestions would be welcomed.
Thanks!
------------------------
Shahrukh Merchant
shahrukh_merchant@att.com
From: theo@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Theo Heavey)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Seattle info needed
Date: 30 Dec 92 05:42:41 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

I will be traveling to Seattle, WA in late Feb with a friend to
visit the University. Any suggestions on:

        1. affordable room
        2. interesting things to do and/or see
        3. reasonable priced meals
        4. clothing (we are from FL)

Also, any ideas on getting from Seattle to Tuscon/Phoenix on the
cheap?

Please respond to theo@cse.fau.edu

thanks
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From: grob@chorus.fr (Lori S. Grob)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.air,rec.travel.marketplace
Subject: Re: Need info on trips to Paris, France in 1993
Date: 24 Dec 92 07:56:54 GMT
Followup-To: rec.travel

In article <tom.79@varian.com>, tom@varian.com (tom cao) writes:
> >My 10th wedding anniversary is coming up in July 1993, and I'd like to take 
> my >wife on a 5 to 7 day trip to Paris and environs. I'd appreciate any 
> 	congratulations! but you mess up the statistics. Here in CA, one of
> 	3 marriages ends up in divorce in the first 5yrs. Perhaps too many
> 	lawyers here.
> 
> >2.     Any suggestions on options to expensive hotels, such as romantic bed
> >and breakfasts in or around Paris? Anyone have contacts over there in terms of
> 	don't stay in Paris proper, noisy, crowded etc... 
> 	Stay south of Paris around the Chateau de Fontainebleau, very 
> scenic and romantic. Look up	the accomodations in the guide. Don't drive 
> in Paris, drive to the	nearest regional trainstation for Paris.


I have to disagree with this advice. Paris
is itself a beautiful romantic city with many small charming
hotels. Fontainbleau is a nice town but it is hardly aconvenient
base for coming into Paris everyday. I have friends who commute
there to work everyday and trust me its not a great commute
and if you eat dinner in Paris it is not going to be fun to go
out to Fontainbleau by train every night nor will you
want to spend all your evenings in Fontainbleau

If you MUST stay out of Paris stay somewhere on the metro or RER
but frankly I don't know why yu would stay out side of Paris.

Stay in Paris in some nice  little hotel 
and then take a few days and stay somewhere in the country.

There are chrming places as close as Joigny in Burgandy or
even closer toward the Loire.

But if you want to be wandering by the Seine with your wife in
the evening then stay in Paris. 

--
L.S. Grob
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6 avenue Gustave Eiffel			fax   +33-1-30-57-00-66	
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From: garyw@sag4.ssl.berkeley.edu (Gary Wong)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: East Africa Travel (Kenya Rwanda Zaire)
Date: 31 Dec 92 19:38:11 GMT
Organization: Space Science Labs


My girlfriend and I are interested in travelling
to East Africa in March/April 1993.  We have
several questions for those with experience 
there.

	What are the best and/or cheapest ways
	to get to Nairobi from either Athens, Munich,
	or Cairo?  So far we have quotes for $700
	Cairo-Nairobi r/t and would like to know
	if there are cheaper ways.

	What is the best/cheapest way from Nairobi
	to Rwanda?

	Finally, for those who've been on safaris/
	expeditions which operators do you recommend?
	We are interested in wildlife safaris in Kenya,
	Mt. Kilimajaro expeditions, and Mountain
	Gorilla tours in Rwanda.

Thanks in advance to those who can provide more info.

garyw

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