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From: heathh@cco.caltech.edu (Heath Ian Hunnicutt)
Subject: Re: Kidnapping at Disneyland
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 17:45:46 GMT

gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:

>In article <1992Sep12.051417.22361@PA.dec.com>, snopes%club33@stlth.enet.dec.com (snopes) writes:
>> In article <1768@shaman.wv.tek.com>, 
>>> [Some guy claims that a FOAF was at DisneyLand, and a kid with them
>>>	was nearly kidnapped]

>> [snopes has heard it before, interesting that it's always a FOAF]

> Pompous assholes like you are the real problem - no - nothing like this could
>possibly have gone wrong at the great Disney world or the even greater Walt
>Disney world - screw you - before you start calling someone a liar you should
>at least have the slightest bit of proof to back it up... but of course 
>Disney is always right in this group so what am I thinking of.... perhaps if it
>was your child you might think twice before mocking someone else.....

	No, sir, stupid buttheads like you are the problem.  snopes
was merely pointing out that the stories about kidnappings at DisneyLand,
specifically the one mentioned, where the kidnapper was caught in the nick
of time, are bona fide Urban Legends.  These stories always seem to 
happen to a "Friend of my brother" or some other hard-to-verify person.
While I don't doubt that child-napping can occur anywhere, I think it
is silly of you to suggest that a child-snatching ring is operating
in DisneyLand, with the park mostly unawares.
	Furthermore, snopes wasn't saying that this incident could
not have happenned in the great holy Disney kingdom.  He _was_
saying that we've heard it before, more than once.  If the original
poster offers some sort of proof that it happenned, other than
that his brother said that it happenned to his brother's
friend, that would be different.

	Finally, the whole point of this group is to shed some
light on the urban myths that people spread.  I have no doubt that
snopes was right on the money when he criticized the original 
story as being just another variation on a tired old legend.

Good day,
Heath







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From: ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Sean Alan Squier)
Subject: Re: New Disney Releases & films
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:29:46 GMT

In article <m0mT3PJ-0000OSC@juts.ccc.amdahl.com> rich.bellacera@amail.amdahl.com writes:
>
>Disney's Florida studio is currently working on the 3rd Roger Rabbit short
>called "TRAIL MIX UP."  I wonder what happened to the featurette "Hare In My
>Soup"??
>
>-Rich

Right before I left for the summer I loafed around the Animation
building for a few hours watching some animators edit a few rough
scenes from TRAIL-MIX-UP. It was pretty neat to see the rough pencil
drawings with color on the screen.  The story board you can see on the
tour is neat too.  Looks like it's gonna have a lot of scenes where
Roger gets pounded into oblivion while Baby Herman sort of doesn't
notice a thing, just like the first one in the kitchen, only this time
it takes place in a saw mill.  I can't wait to see it.

Also,has anyone heard if there are plans to release OFF HIS ROCKER on
video, probably on the front of a major release.  It was a computer
animated short about a boy's rocking horse who breaks free and tries
to attract the disinterested boy's attention away from his video
games.  They showed it in the dailies theater over the summer at the end
of the walking tour for a few days.  It was done on the animators' own
time.


Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Company)
ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
From: casey@auspex.Auspex.COM (Casey Cox)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Little Mermaid LaserDisc wanted
Date: 10 Sep 92 01:27:01 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc. Santa Clara, CA
Originator: casey@auspex

About a month ago, someone posted information about a mail-order
place where TLM Laser Discs were still available. Could that kind
soul mail me the info again?


-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: I am Ariel
From: cbjuland@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:06:54 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

In article <1992Sep5.145948.2599@nic.csu.net>, jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle ) writes:
> Cool.  Has anyone ever heard of _Cinefantastique_ ?  I am almost certain the 
> magazine cannot be obtained in Bakersfield.  Maybe some art major has it...
> 
> Jennifer
> ****************************************************************

I've seen the magazine at the local comic dealer.  And for the record, I'm an
art major but have never even looked at the magazine.

C

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From: amberle@athena.mit.edu (Amberle S Ferrian)
Subject: Re: I am Ariel
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 23:31:47 GMT

Given the current thread on how Disney is (or isn't, I'm not taking sides 
here) nasty and fascist, I can just see it now:  Disney lawyers patrolling
America's streets Halloween night, handing out subpoenas to people dressed
in handmade Disney heroine costumes for copyright infringement.  Talk about
TRICK-or-treat!

<#include large smilie here :-)>
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From: snopes%club33@stlth.enet.dec.com (snopes)
Subject: Beauty & The Beast (Work In Progress) LD?
Organization: Just put everything on the floor; I can find it.
Date:  7 SEP 92 10:01:33    


A list of upcoming releases on laserdisc I picked up from my local video store
contains a puzzling entry:

  October 30: Work In Progress/Beauty & The Beast (CAV)

I'm somewhat astonished that Disney would release a "work in progress" version
to the home market, and that I hadn't heard anything about it before now (much
less that they would issue it on LD, and at the same time as the video release
of the "real" movie).  Was this discussed earlier and I just missed it, or is
it yet another example of vapor video?  "Upcoming release" lists are 
notoriously inaccurate, so I'm somewhat skeptical until I hear more.

 - snopes

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From: jwest@andersen.uucp (Jeffrey A. West)
Subject: Disney Pooh Hallmark Ornaments
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:29:59 GMT


I am looking for last year's Hallmark Disney Ornaments of 
Eeyore, Rabbit and Christopher Robin of Winnie the Pooh fame.

I have Pooh, Tigger and Kanga and Roo (as well as Owl of this year)
but was unable to get these others.

If anyone has any extras of these and are willing to part with
them, or if you have any information as to how I can get them, please e-mail.

Also, does anyone know if there is to be a Gopher?

Was Gopher a Disney creation? I don't seem to remember him from 
the A.A. Milne books.

Enough rambling.

Thanks in advance!!

Jeff West

jwest@andersen.com or 
jwest@andersen.uucp

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From: rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: "Kidnapping" at Disneyland
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:21:23 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

>Pompous assholes like you are the real problem - no - nothing like this could

>6.  you moron, OF COURSE someone would feel different if it happened to

I've got it!  Let's start a whole new group called
rec.arts.name.calling!  That way, we won't even have to worry about
any issues and just endlessly exchange evil envenomed epithets!

Seriously though, here's what it looks like without the name-
calling:

The kidnapping case posted looks like yet another urban legend.  It
could, however, be true.  But there's no evidence that can be
feasibly presented here.  Someone (not mentioning any names) makes a
sarcastic remark, and then the name calling begins.  End of story.

- Robert Cook
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From: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com (Dillon Pyron)
Subject: Re: Imagineers Layoffs
Reply-To: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com
Organization: TI/DSEG VAX Support
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:30:48 GMT


In article <BuLsH5.EG0@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, ajmiller@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Arkayn) writes:
>In <1992Sep11.023657.9052@ncsu.edu> swimmer@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Jennifer Bouck) writes:
>>My parents just got back from WDW, and they heard that about
>>100 imagineers were layed off recently.  Anyone hear anything 
>
>Yup. My brother was one of them. He was quite high up in the hierarchy, and
>instead of selectively firing, they canned the entire division. Basically,
>the impression I got was that a large chunk if not most of Imagineering bit
>the big one. Something about having enough rides, shows, parks, etc. planned
>that if Disney was building as fast as they could for 30 yrs, they couldn't
>even come very close to finishing what is already done.
>Dumb people, they worked too well!
>
What is really bizzare is that I got a call last week from a headhunter. 
Looking for someone to fill a position with a company in Orlando that is "a
world leader in autonoumous and semi-autonomous robotics, 6-DOF motion
simulation and multi-media presentation".  And I don't need my clearance (which
lets out M-M).  Hmmm...
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From: adrian@mti.mti.com (Adrian McCarthy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Closures at Disneyland
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:49:32 GMT
Organization: Micro Technology, Inc., Anaheim, CA

In article <nbvn#j+.mcdonald@netcom.com> mcdonald@netcom.com (James T. Mc Donald III) writes:
>As of Labor Day, 7 September 1992, the following attractions are closed
>for annual refurb:
>
>	-Haunted Mansion (for about a month, possibly more, as it is time for
>	its five year cleaning.
>
>	-It's A Small World (big wall up around it, caused most likely by the
>	construction of Mickey's Starland.

Timeout!  Hold everything.  I was there on 7-Sep-1992 also.  We didn't ride
the Haunted Mansion because the line was too long, but it seemed open.
We rode It's a Small World.  There is a big fence nearby for Mickey's Toontown,
but it was not affecting Small World in any way.

Did they give you this info over the phone?

Aid.  (adrian@lexcel.com)
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From: calvin@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (scott.a.kaye)
Subject: Donald in Mathematicsland
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:53:03 GMT

	Does anyone know if Donald in Mathematicsland has been or will be
released on VHS??  I remember watching it back in elementary school, and I
really enjoyed it.
						Thanks,
							Scott
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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Monday, 7 Sep 1992 21:10:18 MST
From: <ICWFM@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney Homophobia?

In an article published in the Advocate, Howard Ashman's partner said that
Disney staff always treated them as a couple.  He had good feelings about
Disney.  He also accepted Ashman's oscar and made a rather moving speech.

I like Erasure, and I'd really like to know the content that caused them
to pull the piece.
From: Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney voice mail and the annual report
Date: 6 Sep 92 00:01:13 GMT
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

This is to reply to Roxanne.Coffey@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Roxanne Coffey)
02:45:28 GMT To All regarding Disney voice mail and the annual report.
 
RC>Help!  A friend of mine is doing a report on Disney for our finance
RC>class.  She needs the annual report.  We have tried calling
RC>Disney's voice mail and no luck!  She cannot use a photocopy (per
RC>the prof -- picky, I know!) and he has said that he will not be
RC>returning them, thus she can not borrow one from the library.  Does
RC>anyone know of an alternate number or have any suggestions as to
RC>where we could get one?....(Now, if only there was a group on
RC>Procter & Gamble that I could ask for help on mine!)
 
Try a full-service stock broker, or a discount broker that shares
research:  Merrill Lynch, Charles Schwab, etc., look in the Yellow
Pages and call, or drop by one of their offices, and explain what you
need and your situation.  Disney also has a telephone number for
stockholder relations in Anaheim or Burbank CA or Orlando, I can't
seem to locate that for you now (Sorry), but you can probably call
Disney or information and ask.  Proctor & Gamble might have a similar
stockholder relations phone number.  If looking for E-mail conferences
look for ones about stocks, investing, etc. rather than specific
corporations.  Your professor is probably trying to teach you where
to go for stock research.  A lot of on-line services like CompuServe
offer stock quotes and research, and buying and selling stocks
on-line, but of course you pay for these.
 
Owning the stocks of some companies can mean little perks:  Owning
even one share of Disney can get you all kinds of ticket, airline,
hotel and travel discounts, same thing in its own way for Sara Lee
(coupons for their baked goods), Proctor & Gamble (discount coupons
for their products) and other corporations.  Look up "Stocks That
Give You More Than Profits" pages 134-138, May 1992 issue of Money
Magazine for the overview.  It sounds like your professor is having
you do his stock research for him if he won't return the annual
reports ;-)!  Anyway, be aware that the annual reports are now dated,
may indicate trends but not the current condition of the companies.
The Wall Street Journal, Investors Business Daily, Business Week and
Barrons might offer the information you seek, CNBC on cable reports it
daily as it comes in (look for symbol DIS on the NYSE ticker), but if
you need the actual report sent by Disney/Proctor & Gamble to
stockholders/brokers you'll have to contact a stockbroker or the
stockholder relations department of the company, as above.
 
Good luck to you and your classmate in your paper chase!

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Subject: Home for Amnesiac CS
From: jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle )
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:39:53 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: California State University, Bakersfield

In article <6170@npri6.npri.com> murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy) writes
>>From the Home for Amnesiac Computer Scientists....
>>heathh@cco.caltech.edu (Heath Ian Hunnicutt)

Where is this place?  I gotta sign up!!

Jennifer
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From: ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink)
Subject: Beauty And The Beast -- Quote List
Organization: Turkey Hall
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 05:43:08 GMT


From: raja@tbag.osc.edu (Raja Daoud)

- As I always say, if it ain't Baroque, don't fix it  (Cogsworth)

- In a wrestling match nobody bites like Gaston.  (Beer Drinker)

- And every last inch of me's covered with hair. (Gaston)

- I'm especially good at expectorating! Ptoooie!  (Gaston)

- I use antlers in all of my decorating! (Gaston)

- Lefou, I'm afraid I've been thinking.
  A dangerous pastime.
  I know. (Gaston & Lefou)

- No one plots like Gaston,
  Takes cheap shots like Gaston,
  Plans to persecute harmless crackpots like Gaston. (Gaston & Lefou)

- We don't like what we don't understand
  in fact, that scares us
  And this monster is mysterious at least!  (Villagers in the Mob Song)

- Raise the flag!  Sing the song!
  Here we come, we're fifty strong
  And fifty Frenchmen can't be wrong!
  Let's kill the Beast!	(Villagers, Mob Song)

- No, I've been burned by you before! (Duster to Lumiere)



From: fields@alcor.usc.edu (Canis)

- Oh, you look so...so...
- Stoopid.
- Well, that wasn't quite the word I was looking for. Perhaps a little more
  off the top?

- Well, there's the usual: flowers...chocolates...promises you don't intend
  to keep.

- How can you read this? There's no pictures!

- Gaston! What a pleasant surprise.
- Isn't it though?  I'm just *full* of surprises.

- But she is *being* so DIFFICULT.

- <roar>  That hurt!
- If you'd stay still, it wouldn't hurt!
- Well, if you hadn't run away, this wouldn't have happened.
- If you hadn't frightened me, I wouldn't have run away!
- <abrupt silence>

- Say something to her!
- Uhhhh...I...hope you like it here.

- Well, keep it down. If the master finds out, it will be our heads.
- Of course, of course. But what is dinner without a little...music?
- Music...?!



From: amberle@athena.mit.edu

- The whole town's talking about it.  It's not right for a woman to 
  read.  Soon she starts getting ideas...and thinking....
- Gaston, you are positively primeval!
- Why, thank you, Belle!
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From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: "Kidnapping" at Disneyland
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:46:23 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1957@celia.UUCP>, doug@celia.UUCP (Doug Nichols) writes:
> Just a thought, however. First, I'm quite certain that this whole
> thing does, indeedie, fall into the Urban Legend realm. One thing
> I can't help wondering is this: Why (if this really happened) did
> no one on this net from Orange County, CA read about it in the
> paper and post the story? Does anyone seriously believe that Disneyland
> can clamp down on the newsmedia so effectively that stories of this
> nature and magnitude couldn't even get to the presses?

 I doubt the story - that was never my point, however, with respect to
your last question - I'm surprised so many people feel that a
kidnapping attempt at Disneyland or WDW would result in national
exposure of anykind. It is a sad stmt that children our kidnapped
daily in this country and even sadder that some are killed, but I suspect
that kidnapping attempts are rarely put in the news anywhere unless
they are an attempt on someone famous. I don't think it would
have to have anything to do with Disney's ability to control the press,
I just can't see it as a national story... to give you an idea of 
why I feel this way, look at the topic of rapes on campus. Few 
people outside of academia are aware that on a campus like here at
the UofA, there are 40+ rapes reported per academic year. Some places are
worse some better but over-all it is horrendous. I don't think the
lack of reporting is due to the ability of these universities to
control the media but rather the fact that you can't include every 
damn crime that occurs in every paper in the country never mind a 30 minute
newscast..

> Think about it, folks. I'm as likely as the next person to believe
> in conspiracy theories (well, MORE likely, really,) but I just don't
> think this one's too likely.

 Very unlikely. I also find it highly unlikely that there has never been
an individual kidnapped from DL or WDW. Geezuz - just about every mall
in this town has had a kidnapping take place in its parking lots or
stores - why would DL be any different? This is a major part of why I found
the original response offensive - questioning a particular story is
one thing, implying that the kidnapping of children in relatively public
places does not occur or is itself and urban legend is insensitive at best and
dangerous in some ways. 


			gln