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From: gt38091@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Greg )
Subject: Re: Chicago Q'Back
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:50:07 GMT

Chicago sure does have a rookie QB from VTech named Will Furrer.  
His first chance to play in pre-season was against the Saints (please correct
me if I'm wrong)...in any case, the only really bad pass he threw was caught
for a TD.  I believe he had an interception, but that was a good pass that was
mishandled by the reciever.  Anthony Morgan also dropped a long pass from Furrer
that was perfect...I suppose what I'd like to emphasize is that, aside from the
short pass that went for the TD, every one of Furrer's passes should have been
caught!  He won a lot of respect from the coaches.  Ditka said he liked the
way Furrer played and called him a "gutsy" QB.

For now Harbaugh has the starting job, but who knows what will happen...one of
Harbaugh's biggest weaknesses is that he really can't throw a long pass 
without it resembling a punt...Will Furrer showed a great deal of arm strength.
Another impressive thing to note about Furrer is that in his first start, he
audibled from the line...what was worth noting was the way the offensive line
responded to him (and not just on that play)...it was clear that he commanded
their respect in a way that neither PT or Justin could...

Well, I've rambled long enough.


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From: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Washington Redskins Position Chart - 8/26/92
Date: 31 Aug 92 11:35:59 GMT
Reply-To: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center

In rec.sport.football.pro, schalene@sequent.com (Schalene Dagutis) writes:

>In article <24205@oasys.dt.navy.mil> swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve 
>Williams writes:

>>89   Terry Orr        TE   6-2   235
>>
>Steve, I know this must have been an oversight.  Terry Orr was on last
>year's team, after returning from San Diego.  He made some great
>plays.

yes, I got confused on this, too.  I was using the 1991 roster printed just
prior to the first game last year, and Terry Orr wasn't listed on it. 

As it happened, Terry Orr was waived, and later re-signed by the Redskins
when no one else took him.



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From: v067ftek@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (TIMOTHY M. MCCARTHY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: *iced* Apology about Novacek trade
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:56:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug27.152417.21800@aero.org>, mas@aero.org (Marcus A.Shaw) writes...
>Dear Netland,
> 
>I have to admit it, I was in an impaired state when I tried to pass
>the Novacek for a #1 and a #3 pick over on you guys.  I have had some
>support on this, but the overwhelming response has been one of shock
>and amazement that I could have made such a ridiculous suggestion.  I
>have to admit, I didn't give it much clear thought at the time, and
>therefore (hoping to save what little non Cowboys based credibility
>that I might have left) denounce and withdraw my post on that trade.
>To sum up all of the eloquent things that were said about the trade:
> 
>"...STUPID..", "#1 and #3 at McDonalds", "...can't believe...",
>"....this might be too high even for a diehard fan...", and many more.
> 
>I now think that Novacek is worth..... well I better not.  No sense
>adding more fire to the flame.  Anyway, suffice it to say that I
>apologize for the biased behavior and will try to clean up my office
>and put my objectivity back to use again.
> 
>Sincerely,
> 
>Marcus
> 
>p.s. in case I wasn't clear, yes, a #1 and a #3 is too high for
>Novacek, and I really do think that.

Another Cowboy Basher!!! (Hee-Hee!  I've been waiting to "say" that.)
Thanx Marcus
From: Derek_Juntunen@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Derek Juntunen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: This season surprises.
Distribution: world
Date: 27 Aug 92 23:40:49 EST
Organization: Amiga BitSwap Central Dispatch

Who does everyone think this seasons big surprise will be?
Here are my picks:

1.  Minnesota
2.  Tampa Bay
3.  NY Jets

Any thought?

-- Via DLG Pro v0.995

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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Re: EATING WORDS!
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:27:22 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.161216.25273@news.bucknell.edu> lesher@news.bucknell.edu (T. Lesher) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.152918.2562@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:
>
>>I cannot understand the rationale behind your obvious dislike for
>>Montana.  So what if he is at the end of his career.  Also,
>>Montana has the right to want to play.  He is a winner, not a
>>quitter.  The fact that Montana does not realize the Fat Lady is
>>singing is no reason to knock him around. Is there?
>>
>
>The point being (over-)made here is that if Young or Bono can (and they CAN)
>throw better than Montana, is it right to let him play when it may hurt
>the team's chances on the whole?  I don't think so.
>
>
Your point is well taken and I have no problem with this summation. The
outcome of Montana's ability or inability to throw the football is yet
to be determined.  It is well documented that when Montana is healthy,
no one can direct an offense like he can.  The fact that Montana does
not have a great arm, a la Elway, does not dispute the facts that he
is one of best timing, short passers in NFL history.  Of course this
is all pre-injury rhetoric.
>
>>The MAN deserves some respect.  There will never be another 
>>Joe "Sky" Montana, who can quarterback a team in FOUR SB's
>>to victories with such coolness.  The SB is the most pressure
>>type game around (no 4 out 7) and the quarterback determines
>>the outcome.  Joe is the ultimate warrior under pressure.  Check
>>his stats in the SB.  No interceptions!  Think about that for
>>a moment.  It is not like the Niner's DON'T throw the ball!
>>When anyone thinks of memorable SB moments, Montana is at the
>>top of the list.
>
>Right.  And I agree with the above.  But that was then.  He is arguably
>the best QB of all time.  But not anymore.  He is costing a lot of money
>to keep on and off the bench as sporadic intervals.
>
>
Again I agree with your summation.  However, why should anyone castigate
Montana for the Niner's mis-management of the whole deal.  They should
release him.  Although I am a big Niner/Montano fan, this is strictly
business.  I suppose after the Niner management got all the heat for
the handling of Lott and Craig, they are *afraid* to release him although
they know they should.  Afterall, he was their franchise.

-- 
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From: Stephen I Miller <similler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Cleveland Browns Radio Stations
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:11:11 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

Well, you asked for it so here goes.

        List of radio stations carrying the Browns games


OHIO

AKRON               WAKR
ASHTABULA           WFUN
BELLEFONTAINE       WPKO
BYCYRUS             WQEL
CANTON              WHBC
CHILLICOTHE         WCHI
CLEVELAND           WHK   -  AM FLAGSHIP STATION
CLEVELAND           WMMS  -  FM FLAGSHIP STATION
COLUMBUS            WBNS
COSHOCTON           WTNS
DAYTON              WONE
DELAWARE            WDLR
DELPHOS             WDOH
DOVER               WJER
E. LIVERPOOL        WELA
ELYRIA              WEOL
FINDLAY             WFIN
FOSTORIA            WFOB
FREDERICKTOWN       WJMR
GALLIPOLIS          WJEH
GALLIPOLIS          WGTR
HAMILTON            WMOH
KENTON              WKTN
MANSFIELD           WMAN
MARIRTTA            WBRJ
MARION              WMRN
MIDDLEPORT          WMPO
MILLERSBURG         WKLM
NORWALK             WLKR
PAINESVILLE         WBKC
SANDUSKY            WLEC
SANDUSKY            WCPZ
SHELBY/WILLARD      WSWR
STEUBENVILLE        WSTV
TIFFEN              WTTF
TOLEDO              WWWM
WELLSTON/JACKSON    WYPC
WHEELSBURG          WZIO
WOOSTER             WQKT
YOUNSTOWN           WBBW
ZANESVILLE          WHIZ


PENNSYLVANIA

ERIE                WRKT
GREENVILLE          WEXC


NEW YORK

DUNKIRK             WDOE
JAMESTOWN           WKSN
ROCHESTER/NEWARK    WACK
ROCHESTER/NEWARK    WNNR


WEST VIRGINIA

CHARLSTON           WCHS
HUNTINGTON          WXVK


KENTUCKY

COVINGTON           WCVG


The above information was obtained from the Cleveland Browns 1992 Fan and Media
Guide.

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From: martens@python.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Packer notes
Summary: Detmer can't ever win a Super Bowl.  Inconceivable.
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:28:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: cis.1992Aug31.162857.18482
Organization: Ohio State U. Dept. of Computer Science

In article <1992Aug31.154323.6790@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:

John:  thanks for keeping us all updated!

[ Discussion of Tomczak getting cut deleted. ]

>I didn't catch the names of all the players cut but other's gone are:
>RB - Greg Bell
>FB - Steve Avery
>OL - Dave Vieane
>OT - Louis Cheek
>TE - Jerry Evans
>TE - Darryl Ingram

Speculation in the Packer press (Packer Plus or Packer Report--I can't
remember which) was that Cheek would be waived, Mandarich placed on
IR, and Cheek re-signed.  If there's anyone else about to go on IR
tomorrow, more of these guys could be back.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Jerry Evans on the practice squad
tomorrow.

>So the Packers went with only 2 TEs.  

What about the guy they traded for from the Jets?  I think they still
have him, West, and Harris.

>And Greg Bell's comeback is over 
>(at least with the Packers).  Also, Ty Detmer has done it again - he's 
>proved everyone wrong and made the roster.  I think we should start 
>saying that there's no way he can ever win the SB and hope that he 
>proves us wrong again.

Detmer can't.  No way.  Too short.  No taller than Griese or Starr.
His arm's no better than Montana's (well, ok, it is, but it's no
better than Montana's was several years ago).
-- 

-- Jeff (martens@cis.ohio-state.edu)
From: jwc@netx.com (Jeff Comer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Redskins holdouts
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:41:31 GMT
Organization: The Chaos Bobs

paul@austin.ibm.com writes:
>Does anyone know the status of Lachey, Green or Howard?

In case you have not heard yet (and our news site is buggy lately), all
three have signed.

-jc
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From: jacobson@spica.bucknell.edu (douglas jacobson GR)
Subject: Re: Tight Ends
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 05:15:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.165756.1326@pdn.paradyne.com>
lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James) writes:

		Tight Ends...

>
>        NFC East                                AFC East
>Washington      ?                       New York          Johnny Mitchell
							   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Philadelphia    Keith Jackson           Miami             Ferrel Edmunds
>Dallas          ?                       Buffalo           Pete Metzlars
>New York        Derek Brown?            New England       ?
		 ~~~~~~~~~~~
>Phoenix         ?                       Indianapolis      ?
>

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From: ric@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (ricardo.g.irvin)
Subject: Re: Giants QB situation
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:35:40 GMT
Keywords: Simms, Hostetler

In article <67530@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P) writes:
>
>I heard, I think on ESPN, that because of a nagging injury, Phil Simms will
>start this weekend instead of Jeff Hostetler.  Anybody else heard this or can
>confirm this?
Everyone in the Media (NY) seems to think Simms will start, But Handley is
not saying who will start until sunday, the players will know before that
we hope. 

According to the papers here, Hoss' looked alot better wednesday
than he did on monday in practice, but not well enough to start.

I don't think Handley want the 9ers to know who his starter will be.

I think it will be Simms.

			RIC. IRVIN
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"In football, good hitting usually beats good pitching."

"... Lawrence Taylor was all over him... like syrup on pancakes." John Madden.

"...This Game is being broadcast in stereo..." Pat Summerall.
"...What does spit sound like in stereo? "	John Madden.

			PEACE.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: Fri,  4 Sep 1992 10:14:35 -0400 
From: Ian Chan <ic1a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Ronnie Lott


Is Ronnie Lott still playing for the Raiders this year?  At safety?  I'm
a little behind the news; wheren't there rumors or hints that the 49ers
would try to get him back?  I'm assuming they didn't . . . but what
happened?
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From: ric@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (ricardo.g.irvin)
Subject: Re: Class (Re: NFC EAST- GET OFF IT!)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:58:37 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.123717.16418@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes) writes:
>In article <1053@alsys1.aecom.yu.edu>, larry@aecom.yu.edu (Larry Simmons) writes:
>
>In case you haven't heard, Buddy Ryan isn't with the Eagles anymore.  And
>how many times has Andre Waters been suspended for using those classy
>illegal substances like that hall-of-fame linebacker on your fave team?  
>Joe Dakes

Joe, how many times have my "fave hall-of-fame linebacker" tried to end
another players career ? 8{D.

Joe, how many times have you seen your "fave hall-of-fame DE" tried to drive
our "fave hall-of-fame QB's" head or sholder into the turf after he release
the ball?. 

and, Joe, youre right about Kotite, R.White, J.Brown and Carson, being
a CLASS act. But, I still think some of the B.Ryan mentality still lingers
in some of the other guys.

Boy is'nt this NFC east Ball FUN!! 8{D.


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From: jag@unislc.uucp (John Ganske)
Subject: Re: Minnesota RB question
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:47:48 GMT

melissa@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Melissa C Merrill) writes:

>In article <1992Aug31.121554.889@meaddata.com> daled@meaddata.com (Dale Drummond) writes:
>>What's the running back situation in Minnesota this year?  Will Nelson
>>be the starter?  Thanks.
>>
>	No way! :) Terry Allen will get most the playing time, with Roger
>	Craig, and Nelson getting some time also. People in Minnesota should
>	be able to shed more light on it than I being ehre in Wisconsin...

>								Mark
>								GO VIKINGS!
Darrin looks ready to contribute in some way - I'm just not sure in what 
way that will be.  Terry Allen rushed for 90 yards against the Skins on
Saturday (on 13 attempts).  Speaking as a perennial Vikings' running game
skeptic, I was encouraged by seeing Terry Allen's quickness through the
holes (he was actually given some good ones).                    
I think Roger brings an excellent work ethic and winning attitude to the
Vikes.  Roger says that he is very happy to be back in the Midwest (he's  
from Iowa) - I think he will help the Vikings.

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From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Joe (Toast?) Montana
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:19:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <1992Sep3.170029.18538@morrow.stanford.edu> GC.JAB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tony Bechtold) writes:
>I think that they should have thoroughly evaluated Joe's elbow
>before Seifert named a starter. I would have had Joe throw a
>simulated game, given his arm a decent workout with some long
>yardage passes in there. Then perform an MRI. If any inflammation is
>detected, then assume that Joe's arm is NOT going to hold up and
>then name Young the starter. Instead Seifert jumped the gun like

So you're obviously a doctor who is much more familiar with Joe's elbow
than the 49er's doctors correct? Come on, if you for one minute believe
the 49ers haven't "thoroughly evaluated Joe's elbow", you 're sadly mistaken.
Joe is on IR because they don't want to unceremoniously dump him, and
they're hoping he'll be healthy enough to keep around as a emergency
insurance policy, and because Joe won't quit.

If they thought Joe could throw a simulated game(is there even such a 
thing in football?), they would have done it already. They're limiting
his activity for a reason, and its not based on guesswork. 

Young deserves to start at this point, if he fails, and Montana is able
to prove on IR that he's able to play, then he should be given the chance
to compete with Bono.




Russ Smith
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From: teg@cci632.cci.com (Thomas Gauger)
Subject: GOD I HATE THE RAMS!
Keywords: Tegger speakth
Organization: Computer Consoles Incorporated
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:39:25 GMT


The TEGGER speaks:

Ye sayth unto thee that the Bills shall win thy game against thy
Mountain Goats. Thy Mountain Goats shall be rousted from thyne playing
field by thy boisterous fans. Thee subject Everest shall be caused to
tumble from thy Mountain and shall not return.

The all great and powerful TEGGER has spoken!!!!


==================================
The TEGGER
Rochester's self proclaimed #1 Bill's Fan

Section C5
Row 32
Seats 109 & 110

GOD I HATE THE RAMS!!!

Buffalo: 17
Rams:    10
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From: stanm@comm.mot.com (Stan Macasieb)
Subject: Re: Kelly Blackwell
Reply-To: stanm@comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:38:12 GMT

In article 685@news.nd.edu, dmeier@grumpy.helios.nd.edu (daniel meier) writes:
>Can someone give me information about how Kelly Blackwell is doing?  I
>know that he signed a free agent contract with the Bears, but I want 
>to know what has happened since.  Did he end up making the squad?
>
>P.S.  In case anyone is wondering, Blackwell was the All American tight
>end out of TCU last year.

Blackwell made the cut this past week and is the #2 TE behind Keith Jennings.
James Thornton's injury allowed a spot for Blackwell to be kept on the roster,
and the Bears need a third TE anyway.

Blackwell was impressive in his appearances during the preseason. Great hands,
good blocking skills, nothing that a little time and technique couldn't
improve on. BTW, he has uniform #89, the number Mike Ditka wore as a Bear eons ago.



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From: tsv@dbrus.Unify.Com (Tim Vannaman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Official Cowboy IR moves
Keywords: Cowboys
Date: 4 Sep 92 13:55:09 GMT
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization

In article <1992Sep03.150054.12092@bnr.ca> patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power) writes:
>
>
>
>Recalled C Dale Hellestrae from waivers
>Placed WR Jimmy Smith and DE Tony Hill  on IR
>Claimed LB Bobby Abrams off waivers
>Released LB Mickey Pruitt and TE Rich Bartlewski
>Signed QB Jason Garrett, TE Fallon Wacasey, RB Michael Beasley
>    and OG Tom Myslinski to their practice squad.
>Attempted to claim Derrick Brownlow off waivers, but TBay, having
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Serves him right for jumping ship! (being cut)  He had a good chance of getting
some good playing time, much less not having to worry about making the club if
he'd stayed w/ the 'Boys.

Tim.
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From: cboeker@batph78.bnr.ca (Craig Boeker)
Subject: FORSALE: Atl Falcons vs NY Jets Sept 6 tickets
Reply-To: cboeker@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR Atlanta
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:20:08 GMT


Anybody in Atlanta for Labor Day want to see the regular season home opener
in the Georgia dome?

2 tickets, section U (Falcons end zone corner, lower level), row 33 (high
  in that section) $54 for the pair (they cost $27ea and that's all I'm asking)
They are my season tickets but I'll be in Lion county that weekend.
They are fairly decent seats and I've enjoyed the two preseason games
and look forwared to the rest of the season.
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