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Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Thursday, 7 Jan 1993 10:39:12 EST
From: <ADMN8684@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Inter Device Communications

Greetings:

I need some help with IDC. In particular I want to control the mouse
driver from a serial driver I have written. If you have any sample
code or ideas it would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

West Suhanic, Rogers Communications Centre
Email: ADMN8684@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
From: bauwens@acs.ucalgary.ca (Luc Bauwens)
Subject: Re: FORTRAN for OS/2?
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 00:52:57 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <gyan.726436602@unixg.ubc.ca> gyan@unixg.ubc.ca (Gyan P. Sinha) writes:
>
>>Is there somewhere a decent FORTRAN compiler for OS/2 2.0?
>
>Have you considered Watcom F77/386 v9.0? I have it and like it so far,
>and the price is great. The US educational price is $285!

I'll second that.  But I think the educational price is CDN $ 285
in Canada, and US $ 250 in the US.

Luc B.
From: louis@oak.ucsc.edu (Louis Goldstein)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: makedepend and gmake for OS/2 ?
Date: 6 Jan 93 23:57:39 GMT
Reply-To: louis@arapaho.ucsc.edu
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: oak.ucsc.edu

In article <19930105.194202.731@almaden.ibm.com>, bigbill@vnet.ibm.com (Bill Sarantakos) writes:
|> In <1id4v9INNsd5@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Louis Goldstein writes:
|> >Don't know about makedepend, but GNU make is available for OS/2 from
|> >ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.  Check out /pub/os2/00Index for location.
|> 
|> I tried to access ftp-os2.nmsu.edu but couldn't connect.  Does anyone
|> know the (number form of the) address?
|> 
|> Bill Sarantakos    OS/2 C++ Compiler Development     Toronto, Ontario

arp ftp-os2.nmsu.edu
ftp-os2.nmsu.edu (128.123.35.151) -- no entry

Enjoy!
Louis
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:17:09 -0500 
From: "Stephen M. Lacy" <sl31+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Getting DOS to talk to OS/2

Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.os2.programmer: 11-Jan-93 Re: Getting DOS
to talk to .. by Paul Prescod@cantor.math 
> Gee, I was just gearing up to program it, and distribute it, and become
> famous.

Isn't that the story of all our lives?

Steve


"No matter what happens, never believe that you have learned something
you were not supposed to know." -Steve Lacy

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
From: alf@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Alf Zimmermann)
Subject: Need documents about HPFS structure
Organization: Point of Presence & MCS Hamburg
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 18:02:04 GMT
Keywords: OS2 HPFS

We need very urgend documents about the HPFS file system structure. We must write a DISK DOCTOR

CHKDSK won't fix our problem. He mean there was a little mistake and he said he
has fixed it. But when you open the file that is broken, the complete system
stops.

Please mail to alf@mcshh.HANSE.DE or to audio@mcshh.HANSE.DE

Thanx, ALF.

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From: chris@cad.gatech.edu (Chris McClellen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why you should get everything in writing (long)
Date: 8 Jan 1993 15:28:10 -0500
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology, CAE/CAD Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: cae.cad.gatech.edu


I love OS/2.  However, what IBM seems to have done to Mr. Cain is
appauling.  I listen to the people saying "get it in writing," but IBM
probably would have done the same thing to him.

IBM better lay off the kind of people that cause this kind of thing.
Unfortunatly, in large companies, the good people get laid off, because
the underhanded people make it look like nothing is their fault.

If the people who were dealing with him are still employed at IBM,
I would say that IBM is in serious trouble.  If they want respect
again, they had better earn it, and had better get more down to
earth, and bust their rears to support and promote OS/2.  When
developers start getting bitten like he did, then development
eventually stops.  Hopefully, IBM's top brass will get some sense,
and trim the real fat, and make every effort to turn IBM into a
company that can be trusted, and that has a great track record
for developer support  (customer support is good in my view, but
that is subject to heavy debate).  I have yet to buy C/Set 2 for
those kinds of reasons.  If I am going to buy a compiler (as opposed
to using emx), I will buy from Borland (if they ever deliver...),
since I could probably get more support from them [developer] than
I could from IBM.  So, IBM, you have lost a would be developer for
the time being, and I can not recommend using OS2 as an Applications
Platform right now to my company.  I may in the future, if things improve,
but for now, it will just be UNIX, even though some of the apps
would work great on OS/2 -- I just dont want to get bitten.
From: os2man@panix.com (Larry Salomon Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: Announcing PIPES
Date: 9 Jan 93 05:23:08 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <C0KA1r.4rr@panix.com> os2man@panix.com (Larry Salomon Jr.) writes:

>Unfortunately, I cannot place it on hobbes, since I haven't paid my money
>to access FTP.  So, if some kind soul will do it for me, I will gladly
>uuencode the program and mail it to you.  Please send me email if you are
>willing, and I will send it to the first person ONLY.  Others will be
>directed to the appropriate directory on hobbes.

Many thanks to Darrel Hankerson who volunteered.  I will post again once
it is available.  Support is offerred for PIPES and other programs I write
on a time-allows basis via email.

Cheers,
Q
-- 
"If you choose not to decide, you  | "My other body is in the shop" - seen
 still have made a choice" - Rush  |  on a T-shirt
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
From: ceschel@isrc.sandia.gov (Chad E. Schell)
Subject: Flushing I/O buffers in OS/2 2.0
Organization: Sandia National Labs, Org. 1600, Albq., NM
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:32:27 GMT

I am writing a device driver under OS/2 to talk to a motion 
control board, and I need to be able to flush its input
and output buffers (hardwired memory on the board) on demand.

I can write the routines for strategy calls 7H (flush input) and
BH (flush output), but I don't know what commands my C program
has to issue to get the operating system to issue commands
7H and BH.

If anyone knows what commands to send, or where a list that matches
control program calls to device driver strategy calls can be found
please email me this information.

Thanks,
Chad Schell
ceschel@cs.sandia.gov
From: rvaniwaa@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Ronald J. Vaniwaarden)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: emx .8f broke make 3.62
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:40:25 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <1993Jan5.192219.9159@wam.umd.edu> jdowdal@wam.umd.edu (John Dowdal) writes:
>
>I installed the new version of emx last night (.8f) and it appears that
>GNU make 3.62 has died.  I looked in make.exe and discovered it was compiled
>with emx .8b, so the new .DLL's are probably incompatible with the old
>compiler.  Murphy's law got me because I tested all of the commands except
>make (doing 1 line compiles entered from the command line) and of course
>make had to break.

I had the same problems when I loaded emx 0.8f but the solution was just to
take a little while to build make again.  Unzip make and the sources.  Go into
the source subdirectory and issue a make command.  Once it has stopped doing
anything, you need to enter a control-c (to break make) and then issue a
make again.  It will take you about 15-30 minutes to do this and I believe
there is an error in the source to one of the c files.  It wants to use a
function int max(int a, int b) which is not defined anywhere.  Simply add it
it in (2 lines of code) in the appropriate file and you should be set.

--Ronald Van Iwaarden
From: steveh@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (Steven Hayes)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Palette Manager bug (SAVEBITS doesn't save palette)
Date: 9 Jan 93 14:15:42 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, RMIT, Melbourne, Australia

Hi Netters,

I'm sure this has been posted about before, but I couldn't remeber the 
solution to the problem, so...

I've been writing a image viewing program for OS/2 2.0 which uses the
palette manager. Its pretty simple at the moment - displays pgm format images
of any size and 'depth' and lets you scroll around the image in a window.

Everything was whoopy (sassi, froody ;-) until I added a menu to the window.
Now when a drop-down menu goes away the portion of the client area obscured
by the menu gets redrawn with an incorrect palette. The only repaint
messages that don't work properly are when the obscuring window uses the
SAVEBITS option (which doesn't actually cause a WM_PAINT message to get
sent, instead the window 'remembers' what is was covering)

So, what do I have to do to insure that SAVEBITS redraws work with the correct
palette entries?

Cheers

Steve
-- 
   Steven Hayes                                    |  steveh@rmit.edu.au
   Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology (RMIT)  |  +61 3 660-2693
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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: YES! VIO/MOU/KBD documentation is here??
Date: 9 Jan 93 01:04:37 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.programmer
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1993Jan07.192226.20809@kvamdata.no> ekl@kvamdata.no (Eirik Lygre) writes:
>The below quote is from an IBM CFORUM called os2tlkit, which is all
>about the os/2 2.0 programming toolkit. It suggests to me that there
>is now documentation for the VIO, KBD and MOU subsystems. Where?
>Have a look at the OS/2 bbs, which is probably somewhere in the US.
>Sorry -- cannot help you with a number. I'm sure someone will jump
>in with this one, though.

This documentation has been available for several days now from
ftp-os2.nmsu.edu via anonymous ftp, I believe.  Look in the file
/pub/os2/00Index at that site for location.  It should be in
/pub/os2/new right now (although it will disappear from that directory
after a while).

-- 
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sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/info
Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
of Chicago, 60637       | [Read the List, THEN post to ONE OS/2 newsgroup.]
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From: rgundech@napier.uwaterloo.ca ()
Subject: OS/2 Pascal compiler
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:48:45 GMT

I am looking for an OS/2 Pascal compiler. Does anyone have any recommendations ?I am not looking for anything fancy, just a basic compiler. If there are any
available through FTP sites, please let me know.

Please E-mail all responses to rgundech@napier.uwaterloo.ca.
From: Michael.Nelson@f20.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: Back from the Dead: status, and questions
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 14:29:30 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:125/20 - SeaHunt BBS, San Francisco CA

Hello Tim!

Monday January 04 1993 10:10, Tim Francis wrote to All:

TF-> The PDK contains beta copies of the next release.  The CSDs provide
TF-> fixes for the current release.  Do not try to combine the two --
TF-> they're not in the least bit compatible.

    Hmmm.  It wouldn't install the CSD that is in the PDK, either, and the info file for that CSD says:

Additional Information:

              C Set/2 Corrective Service Diskettes (CSD)

Description:

The OS/2 Corrective Service Facility is a utility that applies fixes
(service) to the OS/2 Applications.  This CSD may be applied to both
the the C Set/2 that is included on this disk, or to C Set/2 Version
1.0.

                                          - Michael -


--  
Michael Nelson
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INTERNET: Michael.Nelson@f20.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG
"The views expressed above are those of Michael Nelson only."
From: jnestoriak@vnet.ibm.com (John Nestoriak III)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 09:18:24 EST
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: How can progs use the REXX stack?
Disclaimer: These views are mine, mine, mine.  IBM can't have 'em.
News-Software: UReply 3.0

In <93012.031523CXC19$@psuvm.psu.edu> <CXC19$@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Does anyone know how non-REXX programs can put data
>onto the REXX stack?  It would be nice to be able to
>do something like  dir *.txt > stk .  Is something
>like this possible?


Use:
 dir *.txt | rxqueue

It can be read like:
 while queued() > 0
   parse pull x
   say x
 end
From: hendrik@vedge.com (Hendrik Boom)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: Windows development under OS/2?
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:36:20 GMT
Organization: Visual Edge Software Ltd.

turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin) writes:
: -*----
:    (1)  Does Turbo C++ for Windows run under OS/2?  In
:         particular, does the debugger work?

I used Turbo C++ for Windows successfully.  But the debugger caca-ed
all over my palette, resulting in unreadable everything (menus with
black lettering on a dark dark dark beckground, etc.  It may have worked
otherwise, but I couldn't make enough sense of the screen to know.
-- 
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Try one or more of the following addresses to reply.
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at home:	uunet!ozrout!topoi!hendrik
From: utter@acsu.buffalo.edu (William M. Utter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: CSD for PDK IBM C set/2
Date: 8 Jan 93 02:29:31 GMT
Organization: UB


	I found a Csd for the 11/92 PDK of IBM C Set/2 compilier. I tryed
to install the CSD but it said that nothing needed to be serviced. It
couldn't even seem to find the C Set/2 compilier... Has anyone gotten the
CSD to work and if so how... I think I might have changed the path when I
installed the compilier, but it is in all the paths and lib paths in the
config.sys file so it should of been found by the CSD right???
	

							Thanks

								Bill
-- 
Bill Utter   utter@acsu.buffalo.edu

Living and Loving OS/2 2.0!
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: rommel@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Kai-Uwe Rommel)
Subject: Re: Why you should get everything in writing (long)
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 12:52:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.220154.446@fcom.cc.utah.edu> brian@jaguar.cs.utah.edu (Brian Sturgill) writes:
>In article <1ii7alINNon4@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> spexet@math.lsa.umich.edu (D. Robert Spexet II) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan7.192103.16828@netcom.com> rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain) writes:
>>>I joined the Developers Assistance Program and through that arm
>>>obtained a verbal assurance that there would be "no problem" obtaining
>>>said source code since there was nothing proprietary.  Based on this
>>>assurance and the license I had negotiated for using the interpreter I
>>>quit my day job to live off my savings and develop this product which I
>>>was going to call SimpleScript.
>
>I think you misunderstand Bob's problem.  All he wanted was a sample printer
>driver.  IBM should have had this available well before OS/2 2.0 GA shipped.
>The point is that they didn't, and they still don't.
>I would agree with you comment if Bob had wanted something unusual from
>IBM, but this is standard stuff.

A bit off topic (but more related to this group), wouldn't it be better
to integrate a PostScript to <whatever printer> converter into a queue
processor and use it with the normal PSCRIPT driver? Isn't the queue
processor the part which gets the PS from the spool file (the PSCRIPT
driver puts it there) and sends it to the port?

Kai Uwe Rommel

/* Kai Uwe Rommel --- rommel@informatik.tu-muenchen.de */

DOS ... is still a real mode only non-reentrant interrupt
handler, and always will be.                -Russell Williams

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
From: "paul fry" <paul.fry@canrem.com>
Subject: programming help
Reply-To: "paul fry" <paul.fry@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 12 Jan 93 22:01:36 EST

Can someone assist a novice C/C++ programmer !!!

I've written code (using Borland's C/C++) to detect a disk error
on a floppy drive - in particular, NO DISK PRESENT. I'm using:

    k=bisodisk(0,which-65,0,1,1,1,buffer);

where 'which' equals the 'A' or 'B' drive. This biosdisk call (according
to the C/C++ manual) tries to read a track and sector into 'buffer'.

Under DOS 3.xx and up, it (very nicely) returns an error code to the
calling program when no disk is present, thus allowing the application
to handle the error and avoid the standard Abort/Retry/Fail.

Under OS2, an error is returned EVERY time, even when a disk IS present.

I'd appreciate any insight/assistance someone might offer. Try not
to laugh at the technique I've used, above. IT DOES WORK! I'm not
writing an OS2 application. I'd really be ecstatic if you could relate
a routine that was both DOS and OS2 compatible.
         ----

Thanks for your time.
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
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From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: How to bet $100,000 on OS/2 and lose it.
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:55:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1993Jan12.175549.15638
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

I wish to report that IBM is doing a great deal to assist me in
response to my early morning bitch.  Thanks to some unsolicited and
excellent technical advice from an IBM developer in Boca I now see a
very elegant and simple way to accomplish my goal without need for the
driver at all.  A much better solution than the one I envisioned.

I probably should have seen this method myself but OS/2 is so rich
functionally that it escaped my notice.  There is a lesson here.
Had I known of this long ago, my product would be out there now.
This was not so much a matter of asking the correct question in an
IBM or other forum but rather a matter of consultation.  Had I been
able to contact and discuss my goals with someone that had an in
depth technical awareness I would have gone down the correct path
long ago.  If such a consultation path exists within the DAP, I was
not made aware of it.  If not, I loudly suggest it.

As I was typing that I received a call from John Soyring's office
in which it was suggested to me that just such a resource is what
is missing in the DAP and that the need is being addressed.  Herein
is what I see as a fundamental difference between IBM and MS.  The
"new IBM" seems very willing to acknowledge its mistakes (once they
are made apparent to the right people) and make the requisite
adjustments.  Many Thanks.

Peace,

Bob

P.S.  I would appreciate it if whoever copied my original posting to
			other conferences would do the same with this one.  Thanks.
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

    'The meek shall inherit the earth--the rest of us will move on..'
                                                    Sameer Parekh


               PGP 1.0 or 2.0 public key available on request.
From: glalonde@vnet.ibm.com (Glen Lalonde (448-4278))
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 09:30:19 EST
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: CSet/2 EXE size vs Watcom C 9.0

I looked into the comments made regarding the C Set/2 vs.
Watcom compiler when compiling the fbmp application. This
is what I found: (using the same source as the poster did)

Compiler       .obj  .exe
--------       ----------
Watcom         3373  18432
C Set/2 rel1   3342  34806
C Set/2 beta   3286  30572 You can get this off the developer CD-ROM
C Set/2 /Gd    3287   3488 /Gd = Using dynamically link library

Look at those .obj sizes, now who produces tighter code.

It just seems that the C Set/2 library is pulling in more
code resulting in a larger overhead. Don't forget that this
is overhead, and thus will account for a smaller percentage
of the file give larger applications.

Glen Lalonde, OS/2 Compiler Development
 I am speaking on behalf of myself not IBM,
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
From: pelliott@hounix.org (Paul Elliott)
Subject: driver timer resolution
Organization: Houston UNIX Users Group (HOUNIX), Houston, TX
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 19:51:14 GMT

I am trying to write an OS/2 driver for the CALNET RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR
RNG-810.

This is a realy simple device. Everytime you do a in byte on port 300
you get a random byte from the random number generator which the device
creates using Johnson noise. However, if you read the port faster than 25000
bytes per second or 40 usec between reads, the succesive bytes may not be
randomly independant.

Is there any way in OS/2 to wait such a small period of time in an IO 
driver without hogging the CPU?

I believe that you can define a timer interrupt handler, but
that interrupt occurs only 18.2 times per second. This would
slow down my driver too much. Is there any way to get increased
timer resolution?

By the way, does any one out there know what calnet's snail address is?
I wrote them reciently at their old address but my letter came back
to me.

Paul.Elliott@hrnowl.lonestar.org
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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.os2.misc,misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
Subject: Re: Does anyone have an extra copy of the October PDK CD-ROM?
Date: 6 Jan 93 03:41:51 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.programmer
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1820@cogsci.ucsd.EDU> lopes@cogsci.ucsd.EDU (alann lopes) writes:
>    I've also had problems with the fulfillment center, I never received the
>    October PDK. I got Sept and ordered the October, but received the Nov
>    instead. I did not notice until a few weeks later and have been told
>    that they no longer have them. They told me that I should find someone
>    that has it and make a copy (a copy of a CD-ROM -- yeh right we all
>    have CD-ROM writers on our desks) since you can legally make 10 copies
>    of each CD.
>    If anyone has an extra copy or a copy that they do not plan to use, I'd
>    be very grateful if I could buy it from you.

Actually, the license to use the materials on the October OS/2 PDK has
expired.  According to the legalese, you cannot use any code from that
CD-ROM past December 15, 1992.  (IBM wants to keep everyone on fresh
code, since that October code is getting stale.)

The November OS/2 Professional Developer's Kit CD-ROM is now
the only one available.  You can order it in the U.S. by calling
800-3-IBM-OS2.  Cost is $15 (only a shipping charge; they ship
Airborne).  It contains just about everything on the October CD-ROM,
updated, plus, notably, a C++ compiler (beta).  LAN Server 3.0 (beta)
is no longer on the CD-ROM because it is now a shipping product.

That same telephone number can be used to order the OS/2 2.1 beta on
CD-ROM.  Cost is $15 for that as well.  That CD-ROM includes OS/2 2.1
base operating system beta, MMPM/2 (multimedia extensions for OS/2),
and Toolkit 2.1 beta.

Correction: I posted earlier that there is a December PDK CD-ROM (with
all the tools on it plus this new 2.1 code).  That appears not to be
the case.  If you want OS/2 2.1 beta with all the PDK tools, order
both CD-ROMs.

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Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
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