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Subject: Re: Homer the Heretic (new episode!) (the best!)
From: ngsippel@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:09:11 EDT
Organization: Watch Ren And Stimpy or Else!

In article <BvtwMy.4y0@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, pmm34393@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dr. Vincent Vaugn ) writes:
> Truly a classic episode! A 10 on my scale, I laughed non-stop! This should
> put to rest any people out there who may have thought if you didn't get
> the literary and movie references in the Simpsons, you could not really
> enjoy them. Except for the Tom Cruise (Risky Business) imitation by
> Homer, I saw only non-stop humor in this episode. 
> DYN: God has 4 fingers, while mere mortals in Springfield only have 3!

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!!

DYN: I loved the part when Homer passes the dock sign with a picture of
     Blinky the Tree Eyed Fish!!!!!!!! *laughs*

BTW, is Blinky related to Clarence The Cross-Eyed Lion from "Daktari" ?

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From: lsheehan@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Re: Bart's 4 food groups
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:40:18 GMT

	"Sandwich group" (holds up sandwich), "Cow group" (holds up container
of milk), "Jungle group" (holds up bananna), "Butterfinger group" (i think this
is obvious.. =) )
						lisa
						lsheehan@hamp.hampshire.edu
From: scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: `Lisa the Beauty Queen' - 9f02 - True story of wrath o' Disney
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:26:51 GMT
Organization: BASIS International, Ltd., Albuquerque NM USA

In article <1992Oct16.060206.14684@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> rcarter@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ron Carter) writes:
>And a few years back, Disney went after a pre-school that had large
>paintings of the Mouse and Pals on their walls; -or else- was the
>promise...  Ended up with Hanna-Barbera painting some of -their-
>characters (Huckleberry Hound, The Jetsons, etc) on the walls.

The problem is - if they don't enforce their copyrights/trademarks then
they seriously jeapordize their future ability to file suit against
more serious infringers.  True, they didn't handle the situation very
well (especially from a PR point of view).  However, they couldn't
just ignore it.

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From: aaronk@county.lmt.mn.org (Aaron S. Kurland)
Subject: Re: Bart's Food Groups
Organization: LaserMaster R&D
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:14:20 GMT

In article <1bd02pINNpq1@cs.widener.edu> higgins%tiss.DEcnet@mdcgwy.mdc.com (TISS::HIGGINS) writes:
>Can anybody tell me, in the Butterfinger advertisement on television
>in the USA, what does he say the four food groups are? Obviously one
>is The Butterfinger group, but the others....?

Cow, Jungle, Sandwich.

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From: eckert@geordi.tamu.edu (Stephen Eckert)
Subject: Re: OFF getting dehumanized and Cynical
Reply-To: eckert@geordi.tamu.edu (Stephen Eckert)
Organization: Department of Statistics, TAMU
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:47:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.221429.4593@desire.wright.edu>, psantucci@desire.wright.edu writes:


> 	The last three episodes, while funny and especially filled with erudite
> referneces, have begun to dehumanise OFF. Homer has gotten stupider and meaner,
> Bart is out of character (ref. "he's such a bitch" in streetcar) Marge is more
> helpless and Lisa is going from precocious to downright existential.
> 
> 	Does anyone else notice this almost post-modernist trend toward
> increasingly referential, intellectual snob humor at the expense of the lovable 
> charchters of OFF? The cynicism level is going way up, and the "redeeming"
> moments are fewer and farther between.

Actually, IMHO, the Simpsons is getting back on track.  Although I enjoy
almost all of the Simpsons episodes, I feel that it's lacking the cynicism
of the first season or two.

As an example of this, why must *every* episode have a song in it?  It
borders a little on the sappy side to me.  I agree that most of the
songs are funny, but sometimes I feel it's getting just a little too kind.

> 	I would say that at least half of the Simpson's audience like it
> because they see themselves therein.

Actually, I think just the opposite.  The humor of OFF, especially in the
first few seasons, was that you would look at Homer as the absolutely worst
example of a father, and pray to God that no father is actually like that.

Let me just reiterate that I still find the Simpsons hillarious!  But
I do miss the biting humor of the first few seasons.

Stephen Eckert
From: wagenfuh@huey.udel.edu (Karl Wagenfuehr)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Animation differences in most recent episode
Date: 14 Oct 92 02:53:09 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark

In article <1992Oct13.185952.12606@bnr.ca> mwandel@bnr.ca (Markus Wandel) writes:
>I even thought a couple of characters *sounded* different (same actor
>but different intonation than usual) but I may be paranoid.

Then I'll be paranoid with you:  Krusty did *not* sound at all like himself
that episode.  There was something definately lacking in him.  And people
have complained that in the previous episode (admittedly technically part of
last season) Troy McClure didn't sound like himself either.

Hmmm...

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From: hot@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (henry.o.tirado)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Newsbrief: LMS hit by lightning
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:11:09 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T


A great setup ...

We start out thinking Lisa would win the Little Miss Springfield contest (due
to commercial hype), ... then we see that Amber ??? really wins the contest
(fake eyelashes and all) with Lisa being second, prompting us to KNOW that
something wickedly funny had to befall Amber for Lisa to take the crown, ...
then Amber's dedicating a store, when it starts to RAIN!!!  As soon as it did,
I started to laugh hard, because I knew then that ...

LITTLE MISS SPRINGFIELD would get HIT BY LIGHTNING!!!  Bwahahahaaa!

I loved the fact that at Lisa's coronation, she gets a singed crown and
sceptre, definitely having to be the same crown and sceptre LMS was wearing
when she got hit.  The pageant must have a low budget.

Little Miss Springfield being hit by lightning had to rank as one of the
best LAUGH-TIL-YOU-FALL-OFF-THE-COUCH scenes since Homer's rescue from
Springfield Gorge, Martin's burn victim run in the Soap Box derby, and
Flanders' rescue of Homer when the Simpson house burned!  

... and no one mentioned Otto's escapade with the ferris wheel rocket
hitting the school ... and then seeing it still lodged in the building wall
in a later scene.

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From: lebeld@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Lebel David)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Les Simpson en francais!
Date: 13 Oct 92 04:50:50 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal


	Here in the province of Quebec, we have the Simpsons both in English,
and French. The first one are from CTV, and the second air on Television 
Quatre Saisons. I'm a Simpsons fan since almost day one, and let me say you
that it's almost better in french than in english. Why? The translators had
the good idea to use a very local way to speak french (not the dumb
international french, but the "Quebecois"). They translated the first two 
season, and the result is quite impressive. 

	Of course, it's always better to see one episode in English before
seeing it in French, but as all translated episode are old stuff, I've
already saw all of them. It's quite funny to hear Homer, Marge, Lisa, and
Bart speaking rude local french. It's quite cute.



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From: david.CLark@analog.COM (David Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: RE: Please help
Date: 8 Oct 1992 13:00:45 -0400
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 What the hell is this? There isn't a thing here that is about the Simpsons!!
This used to be about the Simpsons, man! I'm getting tired of Star Trek &
Ren n Stimpy stuff here, I could've sworn they had there own groups, but now
we hear about them on the Simpsons newsgroup. Was there an episode where they
had references to these shows, but I missed them? I don't think so. So now we questionaires to fill out! 

                          Just letting off steam,
                          Dave "I'm having a BAD day" Clark   
                                   
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: rlopez@loanstar.tamu.edu (Robert Lopez)
Subject: Re: Chase scene ref in "Homer the Heretic"?
Organization: Academic Computing Services
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:42:13 GMT

In article <fstuart.921009161250@lab16.eng.auburn.edu>, fstuart@eng.auburn.edu (Frank Stuart) writes:
|> I thought this clearly came from _See no Evil, Hear no Evil_ (the end,
|> anyway).  How many chase scenes end up on a garbage barge?
|> 

Well, I've been lurking on this one for almost a week, because I hate
posting ReferenceSitings, but anyway....

That classic Burt Reynolds movie, _White Lightning_ (a Gator McClusky movie)
has a scene where Burt jumps his car onto a departing garbage barge.
Fine and dandy...what caught me was that Burt and Homer both get out
and wave goodbye to the pursuer on the shore.

Yipeee...there's another one.

Moe is their leeeee-der.   
I'm whizzing with the door open, and I looove it.

True classic Homer.

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From: fjs@nighthawk.ksu.ksu.edu (Frank J Sereno)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Future Episodes
Date: 9 Oct 1992 16:45:22 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
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Sorry about my last posting--my fault with the typo's

I meant to say that a future episode was said to contain Homer having a
heart-attack.  

So far, the AP Newsbit is one for five...

Frank Sereno
Kansas State University
From: swirsky@adobe.com (Robert Swirsky)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: what?
Keywords: OFF
Date: 9 Oct 92 23:14:13 GMT
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View

In article <92399@netnews.upenn.edu> brewer@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (marmoset) writes:
>
>I just always 
>that OFF is an anagram for Our Favorite Family.  So far that has fit in
>contextually.  It's probably something much cooler though, and I'll wind 
>up looking silly.  
>
>Stupid anagrams...


OFF isn't an _anagram_, it's an _acronym_.

An anagram for "Our Favorite Family" would be
"ramify aloof virtue" or "ovary motif failure" or even "frivolity foam urea."

Got it?
From: ar710@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William G. Martin)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: `Lisa the Beauty Queen' - 9f02 - Mo' SloMo Mania, refs, misc.
Date: 16 Oct 1992 13:26:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ar710@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William G. Martin)
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One thing they left out -- after Homer ate the whole jar of
petroleum jelly, I expected them to show him in the bathroom
for the rest of the show... :-)

And, as an aside: regarding the "Hendricks & Franklin" thread from
before: OK, if the guy *was* wearing bifocals, it was Franklin. In that
case, my "Bach" impression would clearly be wrong. I withdraw it. 
(Neither my eyes nor my TV's resolution are good enough to ensure
that I noticed that detail...)
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From: doctor8@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Jason Abner Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Newsbrief: LMS hit by lightning
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:40:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University - HCF
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct16.161109.23264@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, hot@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (henry.o.tirado) writes...
> 
> 
>LITTLE MISS SPRINGFIELD would get HIT BY LIGHTNING!!!  Bwahahahaaa!
> 
>I loved the fact that at Lisa's coronation, she gets a singed crown and
>sceptre, definitely having to be the same crown and sceptre LMS was wearing
>when she got hit.  The pageant must have a low budget.
> 
>Little Miss Springfield being hit by lightning had to rank as one of the
>best LAUGH-TIL-YOU-FALL-OFF-THE-COUCH scenes since Homer's rescue from
>Springfield Gorge, Martin's burn victim run in the Soap Box derby, and
>Flanders' rescue of Homer when the Simpson house burned!  

	HUH??????????????????????????
	THAT was FUNNY???? 
	I BEG to differ.  Watching someone get hit by lightning is by no
means funny.  In an animated series, it is only funny if the person appears
again, totally unharmed in the very next scene (as in any RoadRunner cartoon).
	The fact that Amber is never mentioned again in the episode does not
help that bit of humor.  Along with the reference to the Hindenberg crash, I
found these to be two of the most tasteless bits of humor in the entire
series.
	
							Jason Miller
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: angus@well.sf.ca.us (Angus P. MacDonald)
Subject: Re: Tortilla--huh?
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 22:43:13 GMT

In <BvvEMn.CME@news.cso.uiuc.edu> thove@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (hove tom) writes:

>What's this about God having to appear in a tortilla in Mexico?  That *has*
>to be a reference (and I'll here none of this "not everything is a reference"
>mucky-muck).  It sounds a bit William Burroughs-esque (or some other 
>pretentious-sounding suffix).

>Another DYN:  Homer with all the animals--St. Franicis of Assissi?  His garb
>in the scene I'm thinking of looked like maybe what a Franciscan monk would 
>wear.

>And if I can risk sounding adolescent:  My roommate's out of town this week--
>so guess what that means.  I can wiz with the door open.....

>				and love it!

>"MMMMmmmm, waffle run-off!"

>--Tom Hove



Not Burroughsian at all: it's a joke about the frequent "sightings" of
holy images (usually Jesus or his mother) in tree bark, peeling paint, or
other "found" media. California recently had a Mary-On-A-Tree-Branch
incident in some orchard; I think they were charging admission.

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From: jwlr@escher.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Borg School (was Ayn Rand School)
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:58:57 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

fjs@vulcan.ksu.ksu.edu (Frank J Sereno) writes:

>In article <1992Oct7.155742.19583@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, jwlr@escher.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer) writes:
>>>>>One of the quotes on the wall was something like "Help is futile."  Is this
>>>>>perhaps a slogan from Rand's "The Virtue of Selfishness"? 
>>
>>>I think this was a reference to the Borg, from Star Trek: The Next Generation.
>>
>>No. That would be "Help is irrelevant."
>>
>>>:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

>No, no, no....I believe you are all wrong.  In reference to the Borg quote, 
>the correct one from Star Trek: The Next Generation is, "Resistance is futile!"

Yes, I know.
"Free will is irrelevant."
"Human spirit is irrelevant."
"Culture is irrelevant."
"Resistance is futile."
"You will be assimilated."

Now, let's get back to OFF!

			James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
From: dgil@ipsaint.ipsa.reuter.COM (Gillett, David)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Ayn Rand books (was Re: Chase scene ref
Date: 16 Oct 1992 19:53:14 -0400
Organization: Reuters APL Software Division
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Robert Nychka:
  I don't recall anything about assertions of "fact" which contradict reality
  OR any mention of an international conspiracy.

moi:
  Rand asserts that no animal besides Man ever exhibits altruistic behaviour.
  Scientific American has, on several recent occasions, run papers about actual
  behaviour of real animals, studied by real biologists, which include examples
  of altruism, and the accompanying bibliographies provide additional
  references.  I didn't say she contradicted reality, just the literature.

  Rand's overview of history fails the test of Occam's razor.  She offers no
  evidence for her central outstanding claim, nor am I aware of any from any
  other source.  You may believe that the villains of her history each
  individually suppressed any evidence that might have corroborated it, but
  their villainy -- if such it was -- has to have been so tightly coordinated
  as to strongly suggest collaboration.  Of course, if her view of history is
  wrong, then no conspiracy need be imagined to explain the lack of evidence.

RN:
  What does she say that show an incomplete understanding of economics?

moi:
  I don't have the exact words in front of me, but she makes some assertion
  that the producer who sells at the lowest price will attract most of the
  demand and thus make the most profits, or close to that effect.  This
  completely ignores questions both of supply and of cost; I've noticed that
  mindless praises of the Free Market (as distinguished from mindful ones!)
  *routinely* overlook cost issues.  In other words, she has made, whether
  through actual ignorance or perhaps merely oversight, exactly the error which
  people with faulty or incomplete understanding make.

RN:
  And which authors' views do YOU consider respectable?

moi:
  Well, one who springs immediately to mind, as having taken *precisely* the
  opposite view, is Virginia Woolf, and I believe a very similar opinion was
  recorded by Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain).  Indeed, even Jerry Pournelle at his
  most idiosyncratic falls somewhat short of the standard Rand espouses.

RN:
  Huh?  Did we read the same book?

moi:
  Probably not; mine has scribbled notes in the margins saying things like
  "check this out" and "is this right?" and "what do they eat, and where does
  it come from?"  I no longer believe that reading Rand *necessarily* causes
  brain damage....
                                      Dave Gillett

ObSimpsons:  ... Metal!

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From: bellaire@cs.tulane.edu (TV's Steve)
Subject: 10-15 episode and a DYN
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-7569]: amor
Organization: Gizmonic Institute
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 06:49:16 GMT


Interesting episode, I liked the ambisexual-Bart stuff and Homer eating a bowl 
of P-jelly was classic, real R n' S stuff.

ObDYN: when Lisa was getting sworn in as the new Little Miss Springfeild, it 
was a direct copy of the photo of LBJ getting sworn in after JFK's
assasination.

Lot of abbreviations in this post

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