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From: bradley@novell.com (Brad Soe)
Subject: Re: jints to stay
Keywords: Giants
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:31:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.193814.18923@odin.corp.sgi.com> kubey@sgi.com (Ken Kubey) writes:
>In article <BxK56o.DoF@encore.com> jlundy@bilbo.encore.com (Joe Lundy) writes:
>>In article <11NOV199209172130@mary.fordham.edu>, nissim@mary.fordham.edu (Leonard J. Nissim) writes:
>>|> The hated jints will remain in SF after all.  
>>|> This means that they will play in the *worst* facility in Major League 
>>|> Baseball, Candlestick Park, for 1993; indeed, they will play there for
>>|> years to come.  How fitting; they deserve the worst. 
>
>Hey Leonard, it was your own Peter O'Malley who lobbied the owners
>to reject the sale.  
>
>>Commissioner Bud Selig (acting) announced this yesterday.  Just how powerful
>>has the ownership cartel become?  The power to make an owner take $15 million
>>less for a product he owns? 
>
>From what I've heard and read, Lurie himself voted against the sale.
>Maybe he decided that it was worth $15 million to *not* be the 
>most hated person in the San Francisco Bay Area for years to come.
>
The general rumor from KNBR (Giants Radio Station) was that at the time
that Lurie made the offer with Tampa, there were no other SF offers. He
wanted to deal locally and made the Tampa offer to stir up interest. 
Since he made a deal with Tampa, he was under agreement not to negotiate
another deal with anyone, so he could not deal with the SF group until
after the Tampa deal fell thru. It was the only move that Lurie could
do and bring the issue to the attention of the Bay Area.

Also, I believe that the Tampa group did know that the owners could vote 
the move down.

I don't know about all the lawsuits that are pending, but I don't think 
they are a good idea. If Tampa wants a team next time, will the owners 
really vote to expand there after these lawsuits? There is no law that 
determince where they have to expand to. It is pretty clear that they 
cannot lure a team away. The Giants were the 7th team they move
there.

I am happy!
Brad

Brad Soe
bradley@novell.com
From: arrow@netcom.com (Les Arrow)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Greatest moments in baseball history
Date: 9 Nov 92 04:27:09 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

I'm young, so I can only pull from my own relatively new baseball experiences.

But I will never forget that fantastic two-out Home Run in the 9th inning 
of the first game of the Dodgers-A's World Series. Vin Scully was calling
the game when the hobling Kirk Gibson came to the plate.

Fantastic.

--Les
From: silver@masg1.epfl.ch (Edward Silver)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: National League West Division Standings
Date: 7 Nov 92 13:05:08 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne


Could someone please post the final 1992 standings for the West Division
of the National League? Thanks.

Keywords:
From: mspede@atlas.nafb.trw.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: John Valentinex
Date: 10 Nov 92 14:49:47 PST

In article <1992Nov10.125832.9782@engage.pko.dec.com>, kuras@aiag.enet.dec.com () writes:
>>  realize that the minor league management has other concerns, but aren't
>>  there things that New Britain (for example) could do to become more park-
>>  neutral ?
> 
> Sure, there are th ings that the minor league team COULD do, but it would not
> benefit the management/ownership of the minor league team, so why bother?
> 
> The minor league team usually cannot afford to retrofit the ballpark to the
> specifications of the major league team. In many cases, the city owns the
> ballpark, not the minor league team. And, the city will not come up with the
> money to alter the park either.  On top of that, the minor league city will
> sometimes change affiliations when the the current player development contract
> expires. So, the team/city would need to retrofit the ballpark again, after
> signing a new agreement with another MLB team.
> 
  { stuff deleted }
> 
> Perhaps in years to come, all ballparks will be more uniform in features and
> dimensions.

  Don't get me wrong, I hope that the day when "all ballparks are uniform in
  features and dimensions" never comes !  But it seems detrimental for the 
  Red Sox to send players to a location that is extremely pitcher-friendly.
  Doesn't it make player evaluation more difficult ?  Does it screw with 
  the minor leaguers heads ?  (more rhetorically, Does it matter ? 
  ANSWER=probably not.)
  
  From the city's point of view, I would think that offense sells; and that
  it would be in the city's interest to make (relatively cheap) fixes to
  the ballpark to add offense (ie moving fences in).  I would think that 
  convincing the extremely high-offense ballpark to lower offense would
  be more of a problem.

  Caveats :  1) I've never been to New Britain, (it's just an easy example).
             2) I'm more of an AL fan, hence the "offense sells" comment.

  Mark Pede
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From: hbolande@java.journalism.indiana.edu
Subject: Manager of the Year???
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:35:56 GMT

Have they announced the NL Manager of the Year yet? Is it going to be
Felipe Alou? 

--H. Bolande
  An Expos Fan Mad About All This "Canada's Team" Shit
From: barrym@informix.com (Barry Mednick)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Oakland Protected List Query (Welch?/Hendu?)
Summary: Rights waived.  (rites waved?)
Date: 13 Nov 92 18:12:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Nov12.184004.13638@cascade.Stanford.EDU> shott@cascade.Stanford.EDU (John Shott) writes:
>that DIDN'T appear on the Oakland list.  Specifically, what about Bob Welch
>and Dave Henderson?  I was under the impression that they were both 5/10
>players who were not free agents and, therefore, were required to be
>protected.  
Both Welch and Hendu waived the right to be protected.
I wish the SF Chronicle would learn how to spell "Revenig".
-----------------------
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From: tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer)
Subject: Re: Mattingly, what a fine fielder (was: Hardly not etc.)
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:10:23 GMT

In article <1dgu0oINN82n@mozz.unh.edu> ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene) writes:
>
>	So if you are suddenly put in the position of being a major league
>   manager, you would evaluate talent in spring training by sitting in the
>   clubhouse waiting for someone to hand you each games stats, without
>   ever having to bother watching a game. 

No, I would do 90% of my evaluation before spring training started.
Sure, *sometimes* a rookie who has never put up big numbers before
struts his stuff in spring training and then goes on to win ROY.
Listach is an example of this (though with Spiers going down, did the
Brewers really have a choice?).  But more often, that rookie who is
hot in spring training returns to his previous level.  Zupcic did
something kinda like this.

You can tell *nothing* from spring training stats.  Simply too few AB
and skewed data.  So I would watch spring training, and my decisions
would be influenced by it.  But I would place a *lot* more weight on
the reports and stats I have from the previous year.

-Valentine
From: cs3ea3ai@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Edberg '92)
Subject: Re: NL Stats, 1992 --- Typos?
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 01:46:58 GMT

>Did Lankford really strike out 147 times? No one else in the NL is close. 
That's right.  Dave Hollins was second with 110 K's.
Lankford, 26, walked 72 times, and hit 20 homers and 40 doubles.
Are that many K's justified?

>Did Bonds really walk 127 times? No one else in the NL broke 100. 
Right again.  Second place was 96 for Fred McGriff.  You have to realize
that Barry was walked intentionally 32 times, also in front of Fred McGriff's
32.

>Did Offerman really make 42 errors? No one else in *either* league is close.
You're three for three.  In second place was Gary DiSarcina and Mark Lewis, tiedat 25.  Offerman's fielding percentage was .935.  The averages for both leagues
were 14 errors and a .973 fielding percentage.  Offerman had 12 more errors than
RBI's.  Ouch!  Can L.A. backup how horrid he was?


Mark Cheers.

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From: mlstocku@zeno02.math.UWaterloo.ca ()
Subject: Re: Blue Jays' Protected List Confirmed 
Summary: etc. 
Keywords: List
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:39:52 GMT

  I think David Wells is definitely going to get picked up if unprotected. His
three innnings of hitless ball in the WS looked attractive to the expansions.

In short, betcha both homegrown Nigel Wilson _and_ David Wells get snatched.
/We shall see,
/M.S.
From: mcclure@ucis.vill.edu (MCCLURE HAROLD)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Florida awaits the Giants
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:54:00 GMT
Organization: Villanova University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In all the discussion of the Giants abandoning SF, "the 4th largest media
audience" for sunny Tampa, let's remind ourselves that these really are 
the New York Giants who abandoned the largest media market for California.

You know, Brooklynites still hold onto memories of their Dodgers in Ebbett's
field. Philadephians may want their As back. I wonder if the curse of playoff 
baseball in Boston plagues not only the Red Soxs but the Boston (er, Atlanta) 
Braves? Gee, I should have stopped one sentence earlier. 
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From: chandoni@husc8.harvard.edu (John-Marc Chandonia, , , )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Braves protected list
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:53:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Nov13.115322.17409
Reply-To: chandoni@husc8.harvard.edu
Originator: chandoni@husc8.harvard.edu

In article <steph.721624143@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu>, steph@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson) writes:
> In <10424@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM> jwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Jeff Wilson) writes:
> [...]
> 
>>That's right. They protected BOTH Sanders and Nixon, AND Hunter (ugggh).
>>They're gonna lose either Pete Smith, Kent Mercker, or David Nied in the first
>>round, then they'll protect the other two, and hopefully they'll protect Keith
>>Mitchell as well. 
> 
> ARRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!  This had better not be true.  What kind of idiot would
> protect Nixon and Hunter and leave Nied and Smith vulnerable?  For that 
> matter, what kind of idiot would protect Nixon?  He's an old player with
> few skills and isn't cheap -- do they seriously think Miami or Denver would
> take him in the first round?  Or at all?

I agree... there may be some justification for protecting Deion
(if he plays a few more games like last week's crushing by the 9ers,
he'll become a full-time baseball player), but Otis?  Not with Pete
10-0" Smith such a good prospect.  And Neid is definitely more
valuable than Hunter.

So, did the Constitution print any reasons for this?  Is Smith so unhappy
with the way he was used last season (backup to Bilecki) that he
wants to leave?

JMC
-- 
chandoni@husc8.harvard.edu    | I will not yell fire in a crowded classroom
John-Marc Chandonia           | I will not yell fire in a crowded classroom
Graduate Biophysics Program   | I will not yell fire in a crowded classroom 
Harvard University            | I will not yell fire ...
From: ian.evans@bville.gts.org (Ian Evans)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: RE: LOOKING FOR WISHLISTS
Date: 5 Nov 92 02:05:00 GMT
Reply-To: ian.evans@bville.gts.org (Ian Evans)
Organization: Baudeville BBS - Toronto, Canada 416-283-0114 2000+ conferences

In st902415@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Adam Levin) wrote eloquently:

-> If you're looking for a source on baseball's physics, may I suggest
-> "The Physics of Baseball" by Robert K. Adair, Physicist to the
-> National League and Sterling Professor of Physics at Yale.
-> Fascinating stuff.

I'll get my mitt and head out to the reference library.
From: sgs@stein.u.washington.edu (Steven Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: A most realistic simulation
Keywords: PtP, Morris, magic, eerie
Date: 6 Nov 92 23:40:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov6.234027.29591
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


So I get my copy of Pursue the Pennant version 4.03 in the mail yesterday,
right.  I sit down and play a couple of games between the Mariners and
the A's (1991 stats).  I manage the M's and lose big twice.  Then the eerie
thing happens: I check out the auto-play capability by pitting the M's against 
the world champion Twins with computer managing against computer.  Twins score 
4 runs in bottom of the ninth to win the game 7-6 and provide a complete game
victory for (wait for it! (copywrite GH,1992)) Jack Morris.

Get PtP. It even gets the intangibles right!

--Steve

-- 
 sgs@u.washington.edu             * "Now, Piniella or Davey Johnson I
 Steve Smith                      *  could live with. But what about
 University of Washington HR-20   *  Chambliss now that Baylor's snatched?
 Seattle, WA 98195                * 		--Me
From: gt4925b@prism.gatech.EDU (Jason Woodward)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Braves protected list
Date: 13 Nov 92 22:21:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Jack Kemp in 1996

In <1992Nov13.115322.17409@husc3.harvard.edu> chandoni@husc8.harvard.edu (John-Marc Chandonia, , , ) writes:

>In article <steph.721624143@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu>, steph@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson) writes:
>> In <10424@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM> jwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Jeff Wilson) writes:
>> [...]
>> 
>>>That's right. They protected BOTH Sanders and Nixon, AND Hunter (ugggh).
>>>They're gonna lose either Pete Smith, Kent Mercker, or David Nied in the first
>>>round, then they'll protect the other two, and hopefully they'll protect Keith
>>>Mitchell as well. 
>> 
 >> ARRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!  This had better not be true.  What kind of idiot would
 >> protect Nixon and Hunter and leave Nied and Smith vulnerable?  For that 
 >> matter, what kind of idiot would protect Nixon?  He's an old player with
 >> few skills and isn't cheap -- do they seriously think Miami or Denver would
 >> take him in the first round?  Or at all?

 >I agree... there may be some justification for protecting Deion
 >(if he plays a few more games like last week's crushing by the 9ers,
 >he'll become a full-time baseball player), but Otis?  Not with Pete
 >10-0" Smith such a good prospect.  And Neid is definitely more
 >valuable than Hunter.
 
 >So, did the Constitution print any reasons for this?  Is Smith so unhappy
 >with the way he was used last season (backup to Bilecki) that he
 >wants to leave?

Rumor is that California still wants Nixon, and would have made a 
deal with Colorado or Florida (you draft Nixon, and then we will
give such and such for him).

Pete Smith had a good 1/3 year, but his career record is still well
under .500, and he has been injured some.

I haven't heard about Smith unhappy about being a backup to Bilecki.
But that doesn't matter now, since the Braves aren't resigning
Bilecki.

An article in the Constitution said that Mercker would almost definitely
be taken first.  He is experienced, and can start and relieve.


-- 
"Socialism has a bad name in America, and no amount of wishful
thinking on the part of the left is going to change that in our
lifetimes...The words Economic Democracy are an adequate and 
effective replacement." Derek Shearer, CLINTON advisor|  Kemp 96
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From: dkeisen@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dave Eisen)
Subject: Re: Favorite Player
Organization: Sequoia Peripherals, Inc.
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 05:00:50 GMT


May as well join the party.

Favorite Player: Deron Johnson. He was the only decent hitter the
Phils had when I started following them. Of course that changed
a couple of years later...

Favorite Pitcher: Rick Wise. I admit it. I was *really* bummed
when they traded him for that lefty from St. Louis...



-- 
Dave Eisen                               Sequoia Peripherals: (415) 967-5644
dkeisen@leland.Stanford.EDU              Home:                (415) 321-5154
       There's something in my library to offend everybody. 
          --- Washington Coalition Against Censorship
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From: scott@asd.com (Scott Barman)
Subject: Re: 5 most unbreakable record in baseball history
Organization: American Software Development Corp., West Babylon, NY
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:10:17 GMT

In article <1992Nov03.202543.163404@zeus.calpoly.edu> jplee@zeus.calpoly.edu (Jason Lee) writes:
>The record for saves in a single World Series is:
>
>3  --  Kenton C. Tekulve, Pittsburgh, 1979.
>
>Certainly breakable.

I think Jesse Orosco had 3 saves for the Mets in 1986.
I think he also had three wins in the playoffs (games 3, 5, and 6) all
in relief, and I think someone mentioned that was the first time that
had happened for a reliever.

Question: is there a book with these records printed?  Sort of like a
single reference that these television folks would use?  (that's an
idea...  I can ask someone involved... yea, that's the ticket! :-)

-- 
scott barman			| <This space intentionally left blank>
scott@asd.com			|
 (I can barely speak for myself, you expect me to speak for my employer??)
From: libwca@emory.edu (Bill Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: 1st Expansion Draftee Contest: update
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:17:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: emoryu1.1364
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

Put me down for Brian Hunter.
Bill Anderson
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From: zurawski@cbnewse.cb.att.com (lawrence.w.zurawski)
Subject: Re: 5 most BREAKABLE records
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:51:55 GMT
Summary: What's in a name?


Has anyone else noticed that the net has been infiltrated by posters
named after current and former players?

First, we have...

In article <rfd2001-091192222517@m248-102.bgsu.edu>, rfd2001@andy.bgsu.edu (Ryan Dickey) writes:
>                                                                            
>     
> RYAN DICKEY @ BOWLING GREEN ST U                                           
  ^^^^^^^^^^^

Could be the battery from somebody's all-time all-star team.

And, from a different post...

> From: ST402747@brownvm.brown.edu (blomberg cepeda)
> 
> blomberg cepeda     st402747@brownvm
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Named after a couple of first basemen.  By the way, isn't Ron Blomberg
the answer to the trivia question "Who hit the first homer ever by a DH?"

:)

Larry Zurawski
zurawski@ihlpm.att.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: dn2001@andy.bgsu.edu (Dan Nolan)
Subject: Cleveland's protected players
Followup-To: rec.sport.baseball
Organization: bgsu
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 00:30:19 GMT

I am stuck in the sheltered environment of college and haven't been able to
follow the post season.  I was wondering if anyone can tell me who the
Cleveland Indians have protected for the expansion draft.  Also, what big
named players haven't been protected?

thanks.

                            -D.J.N.
From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Mattingly, what a fine fielder (was: Hardly not etc.)
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:06:46 GMT
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
Distribution: na

In article <7936@transfer.stratus.com> gene@bogus.sw.stratus.com  
(Eugene Loparco) writes:
> In article <7911@transfer.stratus.com>  
jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com writes:
> >In article <1992Nov05.005627.159157@zeus.calpoly.edu>  
> >
> >More to the point though, are all "feelings" created equal?
> >(I'm not sure why you empahsized "feels," by the way.)  I've 
> >seen Luis Rivera have some real good games at shortstop. (He's
> >also had some real bad ones there, but I'll ignore those for
> >now.)  Is it reasonable based on that to say that I feel that
> >Luis Rivera is as good as Ozzie Smith?  Or, lets take a
> 
> I think Mr. Lee's point (and mine) is that if you want to think  
that
> Luis Rivera is as good as Ozzie Smith defensively that is your  
opinion
> and you are entitled to it.

But if you take that attitude, then really not much is worth
disucssing. If everything is a matter of opinion and all opinions
are equal, then why talk about anything: it doesn't matter.
Of course, the truth is that all opinions aren't created equal.
Some are well substantiated, some are nonsense, and most are
somewhere in between. 

> 
> I personally felt that Alvaro Espinoza was an exceptional fielder,  
in
> fact one of the best in baseball, just by seeing him play.  I was  
flamed
> to charcoal for that statement, but I defended myself by saying it  
was
> MY opinion and not fact.

Fine, the Earth is flat and Elvis is really alive and running a
gas station somewhere.  Just an opinion, so don't try to
use facts to disuade me of this.
 
> I don't think there is a defensive stat that can accurately measure  
a
> player's performance...

Why?  And, for answer you give, why wouldn't this also apply to
hitting?  You can argue that you need to watch a player to see
how gracefully he fields. But does how gracefully a batter
swings enter into how good he is at the plate?  Do you want
someone on your team with a .330 BA and .410 OBA who swings ugly
or someone with .280 and .330 who swings pretty?

--
Jim Mann            
Stratus Computer   jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com  
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From: jplee@zeus.calpoly.edu (Jason Lee)
Subject: Re: You thought Zim cursed the Rockies.....
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Distribution: rec.sport.baseball
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 23:13:08 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.090014.6888@walter.cray.com> mb@zzzzzz.cray.com (Maynard Brandt) writes:
>Don Zimmer as dugout coach
>
>Dugout coach???  What does a dugout coach do?  Tell the bench not to move
>during the game (might be necessary in CA)?  Keep the batrack from throwing
>bats onto the field during the game (Milwaukee comes to mind here)?  Assign
>seats to the various players?  :) :) :)
>Regards,
>
>Maynard Brandt
>Cray Research, Inc.
>mb@lotus.cray.com

A dugout coach is kind of an alternate brain for the manager, throwing
out ideas to the manager so he doesn't become complacent or anything.


-- 
Jason Lee
email:  jplee@poseidon.calpoly.edu
GO ROCKIES 1993
Don Baylor for President!!!
From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: jints to stay
Keywords: Giants
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:00:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: adobe.1992Nov11.210046.24315
Distribution: usa
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

In article <1992Nov11.193814.18923@odin.corp.sgi.com> kubey@sgi.com (Ken Kubey) writes:
>From what I've heard and read, Lurie himself voted against the sale.

Lurie did not have a vote; the vote was 9-4, which only adds up to 13,
while there are 14 NL teams.

Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com
From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: defensive range ratings...
Date: 11 Nov 92 03:31:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: uwm.1dpurdINNeuu
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <1992Nov8.033124.25766@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> drw3l@delmarva.evsc.Virginia.EDU (David Robert Walker) writes:
>In the AL, Listach trails Gagne, Velarde, Stankiewicz, Rivera,
>Vizquel, and Fryman. Yount trails White, Lofton, McRae, Kelly,
>Johnson, Cuyler, Felix, and Puckett.
   
   Now not trying to dis the defensive range ratings, but there's is
   absolutely no way that Stankiewicz or Gagne has more range than Pat
   Listach. Listach is cat quick and gets to balls that I just can't
   comprehend people getting to. I'll believe that Yount doesn't get as
   many as the other guys, but I still think his ability to get a good
   jump on the ball is unmatched around the league.

>"The supreme art of fielding is not to make every spectacular play; it
>is to make every play without looking spectacular."  --a very bad
>paraphrase of Sun Tzu, ancient Chinese military expert
   
   Are you sure Tzu wasn't a coach at some time? :)

   --salty
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