From: schnee@sail.ncsl.nist.gov (Rick Schneeman)
Subject: Distributed Debugging (SUMMARY)
Followup-To: comp.object
Organization: Clemson University
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Date: 17 Dec 92 19:10:10 GMT


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>From yoshio@cs.ucla.edu Tue Dec  8 18:34:44 1992

There's a database of references to papers on this
subject maintained by Rob Netzer <rn@cs.brown.edu>
and Cherri Pancake <pancake@cs.orst.edu>

anon ftp cs.orst.edu or wilma.cs.brown.edu in the
debug directory.

Yoshio

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>From betz@immd2.informatik.uni-erlangen.de Wed Dec  9 10:23:58 1992

Hallo,

My name is Wolfgang Betz from the University of Erlangen-Nuernberg in Germany.
I am working since 1 year on debugging distributed (or at least concurrent), object-oriented (, large continually executing) systems.
Unfortunately, I am still searching for good literature on this topic.

At our Institute we are developing an object-oriented programming environment for distributed systems (called HERAKLIT) and I would like to built a debugger for it.

That's all for now, but I hope we get in contact...

	Ciao Wolfgang  

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 From rn@cs.brown.edu Tue Dec  8 19:31:24 1992
 
 re your post in comp.os.research about distributed debugging: I am co-editor
 of a bibliography on parallel and distributed debugging and am active in
 the area.  Below is an announcement I posted to comp.parallel several months
 ago describing how to obtain a copy of the bib.  Let me know if you have
 any questions.
 
                         Bibliography on
                 Parallel and Distributed Debuggers
 
 The 1991/92 update to the bibliography is underway and will be ready this
 fall.  After three years of hard work, Sue Utter-Honig of Cornell is no
 longer working on the project; instead, Rob Netzer of Brown University will
 serve as co-editor with Cherri Pancake (now at Oregon State).
 
 If you have published papers or tech reports related to debugging and would
 like them included for everyone to see, please send them to us.  As in the
 past, the bibliography will be published in SIGPLAN Notices, and is always
 available via anonymous ftp (but on new machines; see directions below).
 
 This time we are trying to categorize the papers in the bibliography, so we
 would like to receive BOTH a citation (in BIBTEX format) and a hardcopy version
 of your papers.  These can be sent to either Cherri Pancake or Rob Netzer,
 whose addresses are below.  Please be sure to include your address
 and telephone number so that we can contact you with questions about how
 your papers should be classified.
 
 To see whether any of your papers are already in the bibliography, you
 can obtain the 1990 update, and the list of papers received since that
 update (which we are currently incorporating into the 1992 update; there
 was no 1991 update).  The available files are
 
 debug_2.0.bib.Z      Version 2.0 of the BIBTEX form of a bibliography
                      on parallel debuggers (revised 9-1-1990)
 
 debug_2.0.rfr.Z      Version 2.0 of the REFER form of a bibliography
                      on parallel debuggers (revised 9-1-1990)
 
 temp_3.0.add.Z       Additions (added since 9-1-90) to Version 2.0 of
                      the BIBTEX form of a bibliography on parallel debuggers
 
 The ftp sites holding the bibliography have changed.  It is now stored on
 cs.orst.edu (128.193.32.1) and wilma.cs.brown.edu (128.148.31.66), which
 contain identical copies.  Files can be retrieved as follows:
 
 1.  Open a connection to wilma.cs.brown.edu or cs.orst.edu through ftp.
 
          > ftp wilma.cs.brown.edu                > ftp cs.orst.edu
 
 2.  Log on by entering 'anonymous' at the login name prompt; enter your
     e-mail address as the password.
 
 3.  Change the transfer mode to binary, and change to the directory containing
     the bibliography:
 
          ftp> binary                             ftp> binary
          ftp> cd debug                           ftp> cd pub/pancake
 
 4.  Issue the ftp 'get' command to transfer the desired file(s).  For
     example, to get Version 2.0, enter:
 
          ftp> get debug_2.0.bib.Z                ftp> get debug_2.0.bib.Z
 
 Feel free to tell anyone about how to get the bibliographies, but do ask
 them to contact us at the e-mail address below so we can include them in
 update notifications also.  Again, we'd appreciate any corrections or
 additions you might know about.  Thanks to those who have already contributed!
 
 
 Cherri M. Pancake
 Dept. of Computer Science
 Oregon State University
 Corvallis, OR 97331
 pancake@cs.orst.edu
 
 Rob Netzer
 Dept. of Computer Science
 Brown University
 Box 1910
 Providence, RI 02912-1910
 rn@cs.brown.edu

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>From sopka+@transarc.com Wed Dec  9 11:30:33 1992

richard,

	if you haven't already, you should contact Prof. Bart Miller
	at UWisconsin-Madison for assistance.  Bart was the organizer
	of the last two ACM workshops on parallel and distributed
	computing.  the proceedings of the workshops were published
	by ACM SIGPLAN and i'm sure Bart would be aware of any
	significant developments since the latest workshop.

	BTW, what's your objective in requesting this information?

							john


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j. r. sopka  "Smiling Jack"  Transarc Corp, 707 Grant St, Pittsburgh, PA  15219
john_sopka@transarc.com      office: 412 338 4387 or 4400     FAX: 412 338 4404

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>From miguel@mururoa.imag.fr Thu Dec 10 05:08:41 1992

We have a little team working on debugging for object-oriented distributed
systems. We are specially interested in cyclic debugging (applying the
record/replay technique) and in visualization techniques.

We are currently preparing a paper about our work. If you want, I can
send you a message as soon as it will be published as a Reasearch report
and maybe in a Conference.

Are you going to establish a reference list, a mail-list or anything else?

-- 
Miguel SANTANA
E-mail:  miguel@imag.fr or miguel@frgu.bull.fr
Address: Bull-Imag, 2 rue Vignate, Z.I. Mayencin, 38610 Gieres, France
Tel: (33) 76.63.48.51              Fax: (33) 76.54.76.15

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>From peterb@cs.st-andrews.ac.uk Thu Dec 10 06:32:54 1992

I am working on a development & debugging system for transputer based embedded
systems.  It's main features are: incremental modification, process migration,
monitoring and background debugging.  Here are two references (I can send
you copies if you are interested):

@techreport{burgess92,
title = {An Event Based Programming Model and Harness for Embedded Transputer Systems Development},
author = {P. Burgess and M. J. Livesey and C. Allison},
institution = {University of St Andrews, Department of Computational Science},
year = {1992},
number = {CS/92/3}
}

@techreport{livesey91,
title = {A Development Environment and Testbed for Embedded Transputer Systems},
author = {M.J. Livesey and C. Allison and P. Burgess},
institution = {University of St Andrews, Department of Computational Science},
year = {1991},
number = {CS/91/4}
}

Regards,

Peter Burgess
University of St Andrews
Computational Science

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>From phrrngtn@dsg.cs.tcd.ie Thu Dec 10 14:47:46 1992

Oh my god! there are other people alive and well and interested in dist
debugging. 

Well, I have been looking at the problem on and off for the last year
(in between doing lots of quite boring things) and I have come to the
following conclusions

it is difficult
compromises have to be made from the start
it is very un-obvious which features are useful/useless/indispensable
visualisation is important
integration of a debugger into the production cycle at an earlier stage
is a good thing. Debuggers should work with browsers/versioning systems/
test suites/cse tools/ document preparation systems etc.

in other words, I have found that a decent user interface (no, I do not
mean lots of graphical gimmicks) can really change the way you use a
debugger and challenges a lot of the assumptions on what one thinks is
useful.


Have you seen the ACM proceeding on parallel and distributed debugging
from Santa Cruz. There are a few good papers in there. 

If you want to see my early reviews and bibliographies and comments and
plans for the future then let me know. I am starting on some
implementation experiments in the spring and hoping to be finished by
next Autumn.

-- 
Paul Harrington, phrrngtn@dsg.cs.tcd.ie, phrrngtn@tcdcs.UUCP tel:+353 1 7021445
Dept. Computer Sci., Trinity College, University of Dublin, Dublin 2, Ireland.

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>From rmark@anduin.ocf.llnl.gov Tue Dec 15 19:52:50 1992

There is a comp.distributed.sys  but there is a comp.client-server and
a comp.parallel that you may want to post to since they often carry
news items about distributed systems.  could I get a copy of the info
you find and/or post a summary of the replies.  


Regards,

Richard Mark
University of California - Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
L-61
PO Box 808
Livermore, CA  94550

rmark@llnl.gov  (e-mail)
1.510.423.1940  (voice)
1.510.423.8719  (FAX)

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