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From: avonruff@urbana.mcd.mot.com (Al Von Ruff)
Subject: Re: Unix System Crashing!! Why?
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Urbana Design Center
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:03:01 GMT

In article <1992Nov3.130757.20385@cbfsb.cb.att.com> nll@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (neal.l.leitner) writes:
>
>I have been having a problem with my Unix machine crashing every once in
>a while.  I was hoping someone could shed some light on the subject.
>
>The machine is a Intel 486 50MHZ machine running AT&T Unix version 4.0.2.1.
>The system has a full blown Unix system with some additional peripherals
>such as:

	....

>The messages that are dumped to the console are:
>
>WARNING: pprtmount:      no msg blocks
>WARNING: pprtmount:      no msg blocks
>WARNING: pprtmount:      no msg blocks
>WARNING: ldterm: (ldterm_outchar)        out of blocks
>WARNING: ldterm: (ldtermsrv)        out of blocks
>WARNING: ldtermsrv: 	 out of blocks
>WARNING: pprtmount:      no msg blocks
>WARNING: pprtmount:      no msg blocks
>WARNING: pprtmount:      no msg blocks
>WARNING: ldtermsrv: 	 out of blocks
>
>The only way to get the system back is to reboot the machine.  If anyone
>can help I would appreciate it greatly.

You have run out of STREAMS resources. There are two possible reasons
for your problem:

1) strthresh is tuned too low for your system use. If your machine
   crashes at approximately the same time of day (i.e: during backups,
   while sending/receiving news, during high UUCP traffic, running heavy
   networking loads), then this is probably the case. strthresh is a
   kernel tunable which designates the maximum number of bytes which
   the STREAMS subsystem is allowed to use. This parameter has a
   notoriously low default setting (around 2 Megabytes). I would recommend
   setting strthresh to a value of 50 percent of physical memory.

   The method of changing tunable parameters differ from vendor to vendor
   on SVR4, so I can't tell you the exact steps to take.  We have access
   to a 386 reference platform here, and on that machine it appears that
   you would alter the /etc/conf/cf.d/mtune file. Change the line:

   	STRTHRESH       0x200000        0       0x1000000

   To a more appropriate value. For a 16 Meg system, for instance, change
   the 0x200000 to 0x800000.

   I recommend contacting your vendor for the exact steps to take in 
   changing kernel tunables.

2) You have a STREAMS memory leak. If your machine crashes at approximately
   the same uptime value (for instance: after 4 days of run time), then this
   is probably the case. In this case, you can't do anything except report
   the bug to your vendor. We have found and plugged a number of STREAMS leaks
   in our product - your implementation may still contain these leaks.

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Voice:  217.384.8553        1101 East University Avenue, Urbana, IL 61801 USA
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: papresco@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Paul Prescod)
Subject: Re: IS UNIX DEAD?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 12:48:23 GMT

>[I didn't bother to crrect the format of this next part]

Beleive it or not, every other message I enter, I enter from home through
a 2400 baud modem.  The one that got screwed up was on a local Xterm.

I honestly avoid using the Xterms if I can use a character interface.  I
don't know if it's our implementation or X in general, but it's HORRIBLE.

>	The first good point you've made yet. It _would_ be nice to have all
>that in one OS. Since I doubt Next or Solaris are going to be free anytime
>soon, let's try to make a better GUI shell for Linux...
>
>	I never ever said Unix was perfect. I never even said it was good or
>bad. I just chimed in to correct you on a bunch of incorrect points. You're
>lumping me with everyone you're arguing with because I disagreed with a few
>things you said (and admittedly, flamed you for it).
>
Well, it seems every time a mention a Unix flaw, someone chimes in with
a unix that is different.  Hell, I could do that for DOS, if I wanted, and
"prove" that DOS can do anything that Unix can.  The point is, are MOSt
users going to want to have to get half an OS.  Either it's good, or it's
cheap, or it's easy to get your hands on, or it's graphical, but never all
of these at once!
From: einari@rhi.hi.is (Einar Indridason)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: IS UNIX DEAD?
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:12:56 GMT

In <LIMES.92Nov5170030@ouroborous.eng.sun.com> limes@ouroborous.eng.sun.com (Greg Limes) writes:

>In article <15329@auspex-gw.auspex.com> guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris) writes:
>|   Microsoft (presumably you aren't counting DOS as "a system from
>|       Microsoft"):
>|
>|	   So are you saying that no flavor of Windows has a tool that pops
>|	   up a command-line window?


>Microsoft Windows 3.0 and 3.1 have a way to pop into a COMMAND.COM, which
>initially takes over the entire screen (ick) but which can then be turned
>back into a window or iconified.

Yes, and how good that command line is!  (NOT!)

The command line in command.com sucks, but it could be worse.  It could
_also_ be _much_ _much_ better!
(think about it for a while... take the 'average' command line from
sh/csh/bash/ksh/tcsh and you'll see that the command.com command line is
just plain stupid!

(flames go directly to /dev/null)

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From: maschepe@thama1.apgea.army.mil (Michael A. Schepers)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Need Phone line configuration
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:16:35 GMT

Hi,

     Does anyone know what the standard phone line PIN configuration is?
     What I need to do is create a male RS-232 connector (25 pin) from a
     standard phone line (6 wires; Blue, Yel, Red, Grn, Blk, Wht).  I
     believe the phone line is a rj45, but I would not bet on it.
     Thanks for the help!!!

Thanks,
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Michael Schepers  :-)
maschepe@thama1.apgea.army.mil
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From: papresco@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Paul Prescod)
Subject: Re: IS UNIX DEAD?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 12:59:14 GMT

>
>comp.os.linux
>you won't get an answer in 20 min. but you will get your answer

I'm a new user!  I don't know what a net is!  I don't have TCP/IP.  I
probably don't even have a modem!  NOW WHAT?


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From: darla@shell.portal.com (Kuby Downs)
Subject: TIN
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Distribution: WORLD
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:41:47 GMT

How do you save articles in TIN (the newsreader program so they are in all
one file?

I mark the articles I want to save with 't', then do a 'w', but it saves them
one at a time resulting in a single file to each message. Is there a way to
save them together?

				Darla
From: jhgreen@cs.sandia.gov (Jethro H. Greene)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: How do I run command-line shell-scripts in the background?
Date: 5 Nov 92 03:30:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Nov5.033059.17605
Followup-To: jhgreen@cs.sandia.gov
Organization: Sandia National Laboratories, Albuquerque, NM
Originator: jhgreen@cs.sandia.gov

Hi. 

Is it possible to run the ksh script in the background without creating and
executing a program?

	#check to see if mngoi is logged on
	while true; do
	   if `finger -s mngoi | grep -s On`; then
	      echo 
	   fi
           sleep 10
	done

Thanks in advance.

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From: mbfarah@isluga.puc.cl (MIGUEL BRAXTON FARAH)
Subject: Serious question - please read
Organization: Pontificia Universidad Catolica de Chile
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:27:03 GMT

Hi! I'd like to make a serious question:

some days ago, in my account appeared a directory called "??????" - and I
wasn't the owner. It was protected so I couldn't even erase it. Using
the quota command I determined that it had about 300Kb of things that were
occupying my disk space - I could not get rid of them. Three days after 
that, the directory disappeared (obviously, the owner erased it). My
question is: how can I access to such a directory? I know now that one
should protect his home directory - but if it happens again (I suspect
of an administrator), how will I be able to take measures about it?

BTW, I'm using ULTRIX-32.
The "cd ??????" responded "ambiguous command".
I'm using Cshell.

Thank you in advance.

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From: stefan@krefcom.GUN.de (Stefan Haefs)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: upload/download PC-DOS/ unix-machine
Date: 7 Nov 92 13:15:46 GMT
Reply-To: haefs@schrott.math.uni-duisburg.de
Organization: Krefcom UUCP Server, Krefeld, FRG

I have a problem with up-/downloading files from a pc operation under DOS
to a unix-machine.
The pc-DOS terminal-programm uses z-modem(up/download) for ex.: telix !
The unix-machine uses the sz/rz (z-modem up/download).

The unix is SCO unix.
The sz is version 3.11

error messages are:  - upload/ download timed out
                     - src bad file error


Please reply by mail because I'm otherwise not reachable.
I will post a summary of the answers afterwards.

Thank you in advance !

Stefan Haefs
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From: af853@yfn.ysu.edu (Peter E. Gomez)
Subject: Newsprint on SUN: Driver for Techtronics
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:48:06 GMT


Does anyone have or has written a driver for the earlier

tectronix printers for Newsprint.???  Or does anyone have

a driver that will suffice on such a printer, and treat it

like a generic printer.??



    Any help would be appreciated??

   -pg

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From: splee@pd.org (Seng-Poh Lee, Speedy)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Needle in a hay stack - nslookup
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:52:40 GMT
Organization: Public Domain Inc., Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Mike Sidler (sidler@smurf.ssc.gov) wrote:
> Given just a hostname, I'm trying to find its Internet address. I know that
> I could do this manually by getting a list of all the domainnames in North America
> and one by one grep nslookup for the hostname. (Haven't been able to get a list
> of domainnames yet).  However, I'm hoping there is a much easier way of doing this.
> I'm trying to get the Internet address so I can email this person. But I don't have
> his phone number or address, only the name of his machine!
> 
When you say hostname, I assume you mean just the hostname without the domain
part of it. You could try 'netfind', which allows you to search for hosts and
users based on general information. Telnet to bruno.cs.colorado.edu and 
login as netfind. Follow the instructions.

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From: peter@global.hacktic.nl (Peter Busser)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: unix for 386
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:50:54 GMT
Organization: Global Village 1

bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) writes:

>'proprietary hardware' means hardware from one vendor.

... and keeping vital information for themselves.

Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: msc@ssigate.ssinc.com (Michael S. Cross)
Subject: Re: thousands of dirs, how to delete...
Summary: two solutions
Keywords: Regular Expressions, find
Organization: Systems and Synchronous Inc., Naperville, IL
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:50:11 GMT

cb@wixer.cactus.org (Cyberspace Buddha) writes:
>>
>>Not too long ago, there was a brief discourse on rming a shipload of
>>files/dirs.  I've since forgotten the method
 suggested for fixing
>>this "problem".  That coupled with the fact that some goobre on this
>>system seems to have created a huge number of directories <who knows
>>why> and we kinda wanna get rid of them, ya know?  ;)
>
>I knew I'd forget something.  Some kind netter has already mailed
>me suggesting "rm -rf <dirname>"...
>what I forgot was to mention that the sysadmin here already tried
>that and rm complained about there being too many dirs/files...
>

Well, I usally do "rm -rf <dirname/a*>" first, then maybe
"rm -rf <dirname/[b-d]*>" if things work out fine on the first one.

This happens every once in a while with files in the spool directories
if a machine "goes away" and uucp can't deliver mail, or, the cron stops
cleaning up the */tmp* directories.  If I clean up maybe 25% of them
"by hand", then I can issue "rm -rf <dirname/*>" without rm (or even ls)
complaining there are too many files.

Of course, you could try: "find <dirname> -depth -print | xargs rm -f"
I can't remember if this worked in my case or not.  You can also use
the "-exec rm {} \;" argument instead of piping it through xargs(1).
Personally, I can never remember the funny braces-slash-semicolon
sequence at the end, so I never use this incantation.

Hope it helps (tm).

Mike

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From: ouwendyk@prso.pttnwb.nl (A.P.J. Ouwendijk)
Subject: Re: configuring xntpd for HP-UX
Organization: PTT Telecom b.v. The Netherlands
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:34:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.145633.10651@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, prs9k@brain.med.virginia.edu (Phil Scarr) writes:
|> I have compiled and installed the adjtime and xntpd programs but I
|> cannot seem to get them to query our university's ntp servers.  I could
|> really use some pointers on how to go about configuring them to work
|> with my system.  Thanks.

Try comp.protocols.time.ntp    :-)

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From: franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin)
Subject: Re: How to cd "a b c d"
Keywords: help
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:24:52 GMT

In article <qian.721064521@honte> qian@kappa.uleth.ca (Howard Chien) writes:

>Hi! I have a simple question: How can you cd a directory with a name such as
>
>a b c d (1 directory)?
>
cd "a b c d"
although, it is not the best choice of names for a unix directory.
   steve
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From: mellon@ncd.com (Ted Lemon)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,alt.cobol,alt.folklore.computers,alt.religion.computers,comp.lang.pascal
Subject: Re: net.views - mainframe programmers in an open systems world
Date: 7 Nov 92 19:27:38 GMT
Followup-To: comp.unix.questions

nelson_don@comm.tandem.com (Don Nelson) writes:
>A COBOL programmer is a COBOL programmer.  The platform makes little
>difference.

I agree completely.   It's sad, but true.

				_MelloN_
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From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: unix for 386
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 23:10:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.141036.7452@global.hacktic.nl> peter@global.hacktic.nl (Peter Busser) writes:
>malenovi@plains.NoDak.edu (Nikola Malenovic) writes:
>
>[about booting Linux]
>>*NOT* if you have microchannel bus.. sigh... :( :(

>Then buy the books about the MCA harddisk controlers and write a driver. <grin>

>Isn't it nice to buy proprietary hardware, even if it's better hardware?

'proprietary hardware' means hardware from one vendor.

Current vendors with MCA product include  IBM, ATT/NCR, Tandy,
ALR, Wang, Wyse - and several others that don't readily spring
to mind.

Specs on the NCR 35xx (?) series are nothing short of awesome
with 80 MegaBYTE/second data transfer rates.

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From: peer@ccrma.stanford.edu (Peer Landa)
Subject: Separate tabs from blanks ?  
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 00:58:23 GMT


Is there any text processing filter which separates tabs from blanks ?
Also, is it possible in AWK to print a previous (or second previous) line after  
a specific word is find on the current line ??

--  peer@ccrma.stanford.edu

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From: papresco@lambert.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: IS UNIX DEAD?
Date: 7 Nov 92 22:16:34 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo

>>2. It should have a powerful command line.
>
>	Are you really an idiot or do you just play one on Usenet?

I'm not sure why you feel the need for personal attacks.  I was merely making the point that
a poweful command line IS an important part of a good operating system, and that whatever
the "operating system of the future" is, it will have one.  Unix already does, it needs
to keep that lead.

>>3.It should install from floppy as well as CD.
>
>	Ah, you _are_ an idiot.
>	(Take a look at Linux.)

NO, YOU are an idiot, if you see linux as the hope for the future.  

Imagine if PC-Magazine (or Pcworld etc.) said: LINUX is the best OS in the entire Universe,
and it's got EVERYTHING you need to run...all you need is internet access to FTP it, or
access to a BBS (what's a BBS says most people) to download it.  And then you have to
learn to unzip or untar it (what is unzip?  What is untar?).  And then you have to make
it.  (make it?  You mean write it from scratch?)  If you want a nice graphical interface
like Windows or Os/2, you have to ftp and make that too.  And even so, most of the 
software doesn't take advantage of it.  And that which does will have a nonstandard
interface.

>>4.It should run, graphically, in less then 8MB of memory.
>
>	Take a look at Linux.
>	
>>5.It should cost less then $300.00
>
>	Take a look at Linux.
>
>	Before you try to convince people of unix's flaws, I suggest you
>first make sure you have a clue what you're talking about.


It's you that doesn't have the clue:  I've said it 100 times.  We need ONE Unixish
operating system that does ALL of these things.  Telling users: Unix is great because
Nextstep is easy, and Solaris is graphical, and Linux is free will get Unix NOWHERE!!!

It's like saying Microsoft products are perfect because Excel is powerful, DOS is popular
and Windows is easy to use.  The one product has NO effect on the rest!!!

Excel is expensive, DOS is crap and Windows (well I guess that's crap too!)
From: ebel@lcaohp2.epfl.ch (Norbert Ebel)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: make question generating versions
Keywords: make
Date: 6 Nov 92 11:23:30 GMT
Reply-To: ebel@lcaohp1.epfl.ch
Organization: EPFL.

Hi Netters,
I have a software in several versions. These versions are choosen by #ifdef BLA, 
In my makefile I could have cc -DBLA ... 

Is there a way to choose the version by giving an appropriate goal 
like 'make BLA', resp. make. I know of 'make option=BLA' but this seems to me
too complicted.


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From: kearns@actcon.canton.oh.us (Steve Kearns)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Running pgm's from INIT
Keywords: unix, init
Date: 11 Nov 92 00:33:17 GMT
Organization: A.C.T. Consulting, Inc.

A friend of mine has the following scenario:  he has three terminals 
without keyboards; the terminals have bar code scanners instead.
He wants to run a time card/clocking program at each of these 
terminals at all times (automatically when the system boots).

Can anyone tell me how to set this up using either /etc/inittab
or an entry in /etc/rc2.d?  If I put the entries in inittab, how
should I go about setting the terminal's stty parameters (since there
won't be a getty)? 

Any suggestions or ideas are greatly appreciated.  Thanks in
advance.

steve
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From: liam@durie.amigans.gen.nz (Liam Greenwood)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,alt.cobol,alt.folklore.computers,alt.religion.computers,comp.lang.pascal
Subject: Re: net.views - mainframe programmers in an open systems world
Date: 6 Nov 92 23:27:48 GMT+12
Organization: It's Home, really...
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Don Nelson (nelson_don@comm.tandem.com) wrote:
> In article <1992Nov03.145701.22033@utoday.com> Mitch Wagner,
> wagner@utoday.com writes:
> >
> >           Is it possible to put the skills of mainframe programmers
> >           to use in open environments? If so, how?
> >
> >
> I'm having a little trouble understanding the question.  Perhaps you
> could explain in 25 words or less why mainframe programmers differ from
> programmers in "the open world" (which is definitely not as open as some
> people think).  Most mainframe programmers work on business applications
> and although "the open world" eschewed such mundane stuff until
    True. We have both COBOL and C application interfaces in the
transaction processing environment (Tip), the development environment, and
the batch environment. I have FTAM, X.400 (1988), X.25 (1988), plus the
OSI transport stack. I can also run TCP/IP, SNA (both terminals and LU6.2).
I can be an X.29 host, a SNA host, an X.25 DCE network. This is in addition
to the proprietry networking and inter-host communication products.
    Oh, and I can run a Unix environment if needed.
Is this an "open environment" by your definition?
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