From: jamcdani@zia.ucs.indiana.edu
Subject: Re: Item for Chaney's study of abortion-adult/child sex link.
Organization: Indiana University
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:16:08 GMT

In article <seaQLiG00WBKM7rFZY@andrew.cmu.edu>  writes:
>  nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) wrote
> >	Steve Chaney has been pursuing the subject of how the right to
> >privacy, explicitly written into the Florida State Constitution, gives
> >rise to both abortion and adult/child sex.  I have not had the time to
> >look over his contributions in detail, so I'm posting this in the hope
> >that he can see where it fits into the big picture.  
> >	It's from Mississippi rather than Florida, but note the "shipping
> >the movies across state lines" clause.  Query: how much of the case 
> >would be thrown out of a Florida court as being unconstitutional?
> > 
> >	This item, for which I am indebted to Charles Wysong, appeared
> >in the _Jackson Herald_, September 30, 1989.  It appears between the 
> >two rows of asterisks.
> 
> There followed an article about a gynocologist who was interested in
> kiddie porn followed by these statements
> 
> >QUOTE OF THE DAY:
>  
> >   	Don't you pro-choicers just _hate_ this?
> >				--Stephen A Chaney
> 
> 
> I'm glad to see Mr. Nyikos watched and learned from the Republican
> convention.  Marilyn Quayle attacked Bill Clinton's "draft-dodging". 
> Maybe her husband should do so also.  Several speakers indicated being a
> governor of a state is no preparation for foreign policy, though Reagan
> did not.  A proponent of sexual "responsibility" like Mr. Nyikos does
> well to mention every sexual crime by an abortionist.  Proponents of
> "responsbile" sex already see fit to mention the sexual orientation of
> mass murderers.  It helps them avoid responisbility for how their
> "sexual morality" actually works:

[The alledged sexual liaisons of priests and a gay-bashing politician
deleted...may we agree that there wackos on both sides and leave it?] 

By the way, Steve, in another article you mentioned the slogan, "Sex
by eight or it's too late." It belongs to the Rene Guyon Society, not
NAMBLA. I don't support either group, but I didn't want that to become 
fodder for homophobes (which, fortunately, no one in this particular
thread is).

> I have no statitics.  I doubt such have been collected, but my belief is
> that people who commit sex crimes would tend to have views about sex
> similar to those of the Vatican and Mr. Nyikos with the attendent guilt.
>  We, of course, have to ignore those sex crimes which are unnatural to
> have as crimes--that is, homosexuality, sodomy laws, and too high of age
> of consent laws.

Here's my proposed response to the statutory rape problem. You can't
have an abortion until you can get pregnant (duh!), which is impossible
until puberty. So let's set the right to privacy as effective upon
(and statutory rape laws as effective _until_) the first physical sign 
of puberty; with girls, that could be menarche. There can be no real
way to universally gauge mental or emotional maturity. Being a cognitive  
psych student, I wish there were, but there isn't.

Which sounds like a better justification for statutory rape laws to you:  
1. "Pre-pubescents are not physically ready for sex" or 
2. "A bunch of legislators have arbitrarily decided that every single 
person under a certain age is not mentally ready for sex"?

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