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From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Morris again (Re: CW "cheats")
Date: 8 Apr 1992 20:36:19 GMT
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <1992Apr8.170240.1074@pictel.com> wpns@pictel.com (Willie Smith) writes:
>In article <1992Apr6.181518.26627@hou.amoco.com> jim@n5ial.chi.il.us writes:
>>uh, just what or who is this morris that you keep referring to?
>You must have missed it a few weeks ago, but it turns out that Morse
>did not invent what is known as Morse code, but stole the idea from a
>co-worker.  This co-worker (whose name escapes me) is buried in Morris
>Township, New Jersey, hence it's really Morris code.  :+)

This is a retcon. (*)

The misuse of Morris was originally started by Julian Macass...ey during the
no-code wars a few years ago to irritate those opposed to no-code licensing.
Unfortunately, John De Armond appears to have picked it up and is using it for
the same reason. It serves only to obfuscate and irritate, and should be
dropped. (I'm not holding my breath.)

(retcon: short for 'retroactive continuity'; redefining something after the
fact. The best known retcon was when the TV series _Dallas_ had two whole
seasons tossed out as all being a dream.)
-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by a .sig virus.
         "Grow up children. Purchase lives." -- Geoff Collyer
From: nk30@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (JEFF ZELL NK3O)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: FCC 24hour ban on indecency overturned by courts
Keywords: where is this article? pse e-mail info
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:41:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T-BL,READING,PA.


Subject: FCC 24hour ban on indecency overturned by courts
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy
Distribution: usa
Keywords: where is this article? pse e-mail info
From: cs00jmc@unccvax.uncc.edu (John Covington WN4BBJ)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: OK ... I'm confused...
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:28:47 GMT
Reply-To: cs00jmc@unccvax.uncc.edu.UUCP (John Covington WN4BBJ)
Organization: University of North Carolina at Charlotte

In article <571@hsdndev.UUCP> Conrad_Nobili@Harvard.EDU (Conrad C. Nobili) writes:
>Today I received mail from W5YI-VEC.  It congratulates me
... 
>So my question is what the heck is W5YI talking about...?  I
>mean all I "upgraded" was from Technician to Technician
>Plus HF, which we have all heard beaten to death here is not
>a real licensing distinction as far as the FCC is concerned....


The VECs are supposed to send a list of those Technician licensees
who have passed a code test to the FCC periodically (quarterly?), and a 
separate database is being maintained of these folks so the FCC will have a 
record that someone is legal on HF.  (I don't know the exact logistics of this,
so please don't flame me!).  They are NOT issuing licenses to reflect this
and in their main database there is no such indication of such, only in
the separate database.

The ARRL is also keeping track of this information as the mailing labels 
they send out have a '+' for Technicians with code, and T for those without 
(and N,G,A,E for other license classes).  Those Techs licensed before Feb 1991
appear as '+' on their labels.  I don't know if they are receiving 1A info
from the other VECs or just from their own VEC operation.

So I presume that W5YI-VEC really wants your callsign so they can add
the fact that you passed 1A to the database, which will eventually be
passed to the FCC.


-- 
John Covington WN4BBJ     Internet: cs00jmc@unccvax.uncc.edu
P.O. Box 217122           MCI Mail: JCOVINGTON 342-6957
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(704) 537-7653            "Kenneth, what's the frequency?" "I dunno, ask Dan"
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy
From: sknapp@IASTATE.EDU (Steven M. Knapp)
Subject: Re: Letterman Intervies Young Ham
Reply-To: sknapp@IASTATE.EDU (Steven M. Knapp)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 22:41:40 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.210430.13741@cs.rose-hulman.edu>,
spinnefm@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU writes:
stuff deleted!
> This just proves that on this group, people can argue about ANYTHING.
> Morally it was okay, Ethically it was okay, Legally it was a ?
> 
> I think the point is that BOTH the FCC and the IRS have much better
> things to do than go after a 6 year old! geez!
> 
> All this hype on Internet about this could get back to NBC, who may
> just decide never to do that again because of this crap.
> 
> Give me a break guys.
> 
> Fred M. Spinner, KA9VAW
> President, Rose-Tech Radio Club
> Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
> 
I agree completely...
I hate to say this because it might start that other thread again but...
GET A LIFE!
________________________________________________________________________ 
Steven M. Knapp		   	        	   Computer Engineering@
Friley 2298 Stanton			           Iowa State University
Campus Phone: 4-2950			    	    		Ames, IA



From: myers@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Myers)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 18:25:59 GMT
Subject: Re: Morris again (Re: CW "cheats")
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy

> >Ok guys.  I'm rested.  I've gotten my breath back.  My keyboard 
> >is resharpened.  Are we ready yet to start the final assault on 
> >Morris?  He's on his knees from being knocked off Techs.   Let's
> >do him in.
> 
> MORSE, GODDAMMIT, MORSE!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> While you're doing in ham radio, at least get the names right.

Well, then let's REALLY get the names right.

What you hear on the CW bands is *International* code.

"Morse" is the click-and-space code used by the railroad telegraphers of
yesteryear.

Bob Myers  KC0EW   Hewlett-Packard Co.      |Opinions expressed here are not
                   User Interface Tech. Div.|those of my employer or any other
myers@fc.hp.com    Fort Collins, Colorado   |sentient life-form on this planet.
From: jfw@ksr.com (John F. Woods)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Letterman Intervies Young Ham
Date: 8 Apr 92 11:23:56 EDT
Followup-To: don't, OK?

sknapp@IASTATE.EDU (Steven M. Knapp) writes:
>In article <1992Apr6.210430.13741@cs.rose-hulman.edu>,
>spinnefm@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU writes:
>stuff deleted!
>> This just proves that on this group, people can argue about ANYTHING.
>I agree completely...
>I hate to say this because it might start that other thread again but...
>GET A LIFE!

These just prove that on any group on USENET, people can argue at length
about anything, including "arguing about anything".

Don't you have some homework to go do?

BA-dump-bump.
From: fms@sw.stratus.com (Faith Senie)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: OK ... I'm confused...
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:27:35 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <5432.29e07b69@hayes.com>, bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman) writes:
> 
> The letter sounds like it wasn't properly worded, but this is standard operating
> procedure. You see, the FCC won't permit more than one application (read 610)
> to be presented before the FCC at any one time. So if you upgrade or obtain
> a new license and then upgrade again before you get your paper from the FCC,
> the VEC is REQUIRED to hold your upgrade 610 until your first license comes
> back.
> [...]
> Seems weird, especially since you just upgraded from Tech to Tech w/HF,
> but they still have to send a 610 to the FCC.
> 

Okay, now _I_ am confused...

I took my Technician theory exams before I took the code exam.

When I passed the 1A code test (5wpm for the uninitiated), I had not yet
received my callsign (it arrived 3 weeks later).

Nobody ever asked me to supply a copy of my license to anybody, either the
VEC (ARRL) or the FCC, until I went to take the upgrade exams for General,
at which time I was required to present a copy of my license to the VE
team (standard operating procedure for the VE team).  When I took the 5wpm, 
a copy of my CSCE for the Tech theory exams was all I needed, and nobody 
ever told me otherwise, then or since.

As far as I can determine, Tech to Tech-plus is NOT an upgrade, just a
minor modification of privileges.  If it were an upgrade, there would be
a new license issued and a requirement to sign something sort of like /KT
after one's call; there are no such things.

So is this request for a copy of the license something that W5YI does and
the ARRL doesn't, or is W5YI as mixed up as the original writer,
COnrad_Nobili@Harvard.EDU, seemed to think?


Faith  N1JIT/AG


-- 
Faith M. Senie            InterNet: fms@vos.stratus.com
Stratus Computer, Inc.    InterNet: fms@hoop.sw.stratus.com
55 Fairbanks Blvd.       Pkt Radio: n1jit@ka1srd.ma.usa.na
Marlboro, MA 01752           Phone: (508)460-2632

"I'm afraid I don't know very much about Romulan Disruptor settings" --Spock
From: sv1bds@leon.nrcps.ARiadne-t.GR (G. Katsimaglis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: EPROM collection
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:47:45 GMT
Organization: NETWORK ARIADNE , NCSR DEMOCRITOS
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

Has any one a eprom file collection ?
I ask for various versions to mention them here.
73 de
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Repeaters price/availability
From: richard@nacjack.gen.nz (Richard Vowles)
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:26:18 GMT
Organization: Malleus Maleficarum - Nil Mortifi Sine Lucre


Can anyone tell me (pref. in mail) where I could get information about
repeaters (prices + facilities) particularly Digital Repeaters for the
2m and 70cm bands? I.e companies to write (snail or email) to, etc.

I live in a rather nasty area surrounded on three sides by rather high
hills. There are a number of people in my area wanting to experiment
with packet, but unable to get reception with any reliably unless we go
to ultra expensive antennae - if we join as a group we could get a
repeater and save ourselves some money. I know this isn't the best
solution, a better antenna would give coverage to all the frequencies
in the 2m band, but packet people tend to get some serious flak from
the voice operators if we don't stick to assigned bands.

Richard

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From: whitej@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: Poor Man's packet & modem
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:23:17 GMT

In article <N1FsiB2w165w@micromed.net.netcom.com>, msolinas@micromed.net.netcom.com (Michael Solinas) writes:
> Can a standard modem be used with poor man's packet?  I have a zoom 
> external, and can purchase some used hayes modems (1200 baud) for $15.  
> Can these be used with PMP?
>    Also, how would you connect from the modem (standard phone type cord 
> jacks) to a hand talkit?
> 
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> msolinas@micromed.net.netcom.com (Michael Solinas)
> Micro-Medic BBS                                            (408) 280-1610

Mike,
Not sure if you received last reply.  I am using a modem of my own design
which was adapted from the exar 2206/2211 app note.  I am using this with
pmp v1.1 and have excellent results.  If you need a cop of the article from
Aug 73  or the S/W let me know.  The S/W is available off the Hamnet BBS
at 2169426382.  By the way I could use some 2206's & 2211's.
73 Joe Ke6ha @WA8BXN.#neoh.oh.usa.na
From: david@kelly.ksc.nasa.GOV
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Wireless LANs
Date: 14 Apr 1992 06:11:57 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu


  Anyone out there have experience on Commercial off The Shelf
Wireless LAN products?

+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
   FROM:

   David Sweigert  c/o
   Boeing Aerospace Operations
   M/S  FA-71                              david@kelly.ksc.nasa.gov
   Kennedy Space Center, FL 32899          FAX  407-867-4079
                                           VOICE    867-4848
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From: dlhanson@nap.amoco.com (David L. Hanson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Baudot TTY wanted
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:27:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: nap.dlhanson.10
Organization: Process Control and Instrumention, Amoco Corporation

Sorry to pollute this group slightly.  But I thought that maybe someone
here might be able to help me.  I am looking for a Baudot terminal so
that I can talk to my deaf friend without using a relay service.  I
don't want to spend the several hundred $'s to buy either a new TDD or
a Baudot operable modem.  

I had the idea that TTY's used to use Baudot.  Is this correct?  If these,
would be compatible does anyone know where I might look in the Chicago
area for an old surplus Baudot TTY. (I have a good understanding on
today's modems but other than knowing that the deaf's TTD's use different
frequencies and a different encoding technique (Baudot instead of ASCII), I
don't know much about the older equipment.

David  N5HPO

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: allbery@NCoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH)
Subject: Re: Why segregate TCP/IP? (was Re: kbd to kbd)
Reply-To: allbery@ncoast.org (Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH)
Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 19:35:48 GMT
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.packet

As quoted from <48943@wd6ehr.ampr.org> by wd6ehr@wd6ehr.ampr.ORG (Mike Curtis):
+---------------
| If NET/NOS stations use mode VC, they will be more aggressive and have
| a more equal footing with ax.25 stations.  
| 
| If ax.25 stations run sensible settings, they won't preempt tcp/ip
| activity that much. 
+---------------

I see you've never experienced a mixture of exponential- and linear-backoff
stations on a single channel before.  I have.  The result is that the
exponential-backoff stations essentially lose the frequency because the linear
backoff scheme is inherently more aggressive.  Even on mode VC connections:
a simple AX.25 connect from an exponential-backoff NOS still loses the
frequency to linear-backoff stations.

++Brandon
-- 
Brandon S. Allbery, KF8NH [44.70.4.88]        allbery@NCoast.ORG
Senior Programmer, Telotech, Inc. (if I may call myself that...)
From: david@kelly.ksc.nasa.GOV
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: SCO XENIX BBS Software
Date: 17 Apr 1992 07:31:07 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu


  Subject:

  Software that has BBS functionality that runs on SCO XENIX

  Discussion:

  Are there any hams out there who know of ham packet BBS software that
runs on top of a SCO XENIX platform.  I want to put a BBS on the air and
am running SCO.  I think the operating system itself is very BBSish,
however, to forward and receive mail via IP routing is another story.

  Thank you...

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   FROM:

   David Sweigert  c/o
   Boeing Aerospace Operations
   M/S  FA-71                              david@kelly.ksc.nasa.gov
   Kennedy Space Center, FL 32899          FAX  407-867-4079
                                           VOICE    867-4848
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From: willis@cs.tamu.edu (Willis Marti)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: automatic control (was: Help 2nd try tcpip ka9q problem)
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:23:53 GMT
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.policy
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Texas A&M University

In article <702790137.F00002@iea.UUCP>, Pat.Dockrey@f3.n346.z1.fido.iea.hmm (Pat Dockrey) writes:
|> This is no doubt a very contentious problem...but I completely disagree with
|> the concept of not having an amateur responsible for their transmissions.
|> Personal responsibility goes to the heart of the amateur radio hobby.
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Exactly.  But that's why the FCC *interpretation* should be changed.  The
one responsible for a message is the originator, not the PBBS that forwards the
message.  Store and forward censorship is almost doable; how could you
possibly do things where the entire message was never at your site at one time?

|> Even the phone boards have restrictions on content, why should the PBBS' be any
|> different?

To my knowledge and based on experience, there are *no* restrictions on
content on a phone BBS (other than, possibly, aiding and abetting a crime).
There are certainly no restrictions on commercial activity or obscene/profane
messages.
From: n9ofv@wb9uus.ampr.ORG
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: [P] command in AmigaNOS
Date: 8 Apr 1992 04:49:57 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

The AmigaNOS v2.8s mailbox command [P]age returns an error code.
The akit28s files contain a sample NOS-startup file that includes the line

amiga command "NewCLI From s:server-shell"

I can't find a file in the AmigaNOS 2.8s archives called "server-shell"
My guess is that it is needed to open a console window for [P].

Can anyone get me directions?
Thanks
Tom
From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: Poor Man's packet & modem
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:00:36 GMT
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Gannett Technologies Group

In article <N1FsiB2w165w@micromed.net.netcom.com> msolinas@micromed.net.netcom.com (Michael Solinas) writes:
>Can a standard modem be used with poor man's packet?  I have a zoom 
>external, and can purchase some used hayes modems (1200 baud) for $15.  
>Can these be used with PMP?
>   Also, how would you connect from the modem (standard phone type cord 
>jacks) to a hand talkit?

Packet uses Bell 202 tones while your Zoom and the Hayes 1200 use Bell 212
tones. They are not compatible. The "smart" in the smartmodems also gets
in your way. The original Hayes Smartmodem had a method of using the 300
baud speed over radio. There's instructions in the back of the modem manual.
*That* would be compatible with HF packet, but your program would have to
use "AT" commands to switch from transmit to receive. All in all it's a
losing proposition when a couple of Exar chips or an AMD7910 make a perfectly 
satisfactory packet modem for a few bucks.

Gary KE4ZV
From: clemon@lemsys.UUCP (Craig Lemon VE3XCL)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: Why segregate TCP/IP? (was Re: Keyboard-to-keyboard)
Distribution: world
Date: 5 Apr 92 10:44:51 EDT
Organization: Private UUCP "Twig" Node

In article <1992Apr03.151338.2846518@locus.com> dana@locus.com (Dana H. Myers) writes:
>
>  I can understand the desire to create a low-level keyboard to keyboard
>channel, but why do people believe TCP/IP must be segregated to a channel
>all by itself?
>
>  Sure, FTP can consume a channel, but the same is true if someone
>downloads a large file using AX.25. Sure, the IP headers print garbage
>on some screens when monitoring the channel, but so does NET/ROM, and this
>is a truly petty complaint anyway. What is the beef otherwise?

        I believe the problem is that AX.25 is more "aggressive" than
TCP/IP and will therefore, take all of the channel time when conflicts and
collisions arise.

--
 Craig Lemon VE3XCL - Kitchener, Ontario. Amiga B2000  OS 2.04  UUCPv1.15D.
 +1 519 741 0297    +1 519 578 7817              | Silly people!  We all
 clemon@lemsys.UUCP clemon%lemsys@xenitec.on.ca  | know that the Universe
 IP/Packet: ve3xcl@ve3xcl.ampr.org [44.135.84.51]| revolves around UUNET!
From: Chris.Schmelzer@f100.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Chris Schmelzer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Dr4-10
Date: 8 Apr 92 06:46:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: tdkt.702736663.F00001

Talking about the DR4-10 and linears, Kantronics claims
that there 2 in 30 out amp for the old DVR2-2 only
adds 5-10 ms to the TXDELAY...
 

 * Origin: HAM>link< RBBS 612/HAM-0000 Saint Paul, MN (K0TG)(1:282/100.0)
From: lewis@b56vxg.kodak.com (Ken Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Baycomm modem (or equiv. ) interface software..
Date: 14 Apr 92 02:53:00 GMT
Reply-To: lewis@kodak.com
Organization: Eastman Kodak Company, Rochester NY
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Greetings net!

I have seen some kits and home-brew articles regarding Bell 202 modems like 
the Baycomm board in the periodicals recently.  From I gather these kits that
use either a TI chip or AMD chip are just modems and you need to run a package
on an IBM pc or clone either called Poor Man's Packet or the like.  Are there
any Macintosh packages written or in the process of being written to interface
with these modem boards.  any posts or replies would be appreciated...

73, 
Ken Lewis
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Eastman Kodak Company, RDCS 		 RF:            N2LCI
1669 Lake Avenue                         Internet:      lewis@kodak.com
Rochester NY 14652-3302			 AT&T:          (716)-722-3438
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From: msolinas@micromed.net.netcom.com (Michael Solinas)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Poor Man's packet & modem
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 92 19:41:58 PDT
Organization: Micro-Medic +1 408 280 1610

Can a standard modem be used with poor man's packet?  I have a zoom 
external, and can purchase some used hayes modems (1200 baud) for $15.  
Can these be used with PMP?
   Also, how would you connect from the modem (standard phone type cord 
jacks) to a hand talkit?


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msolinas@micromed.net.netcom.com (Michael Solinas)
Micro-Medic BBS                                            (408) 280-1610

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: sro@media-lab.media.mit.edu (Shawn O'Donnell)
Subject: 2400 baud?
Organization: M.I.T. Media Laboratory
Distribution: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 05:44:24 GMT

Occasionally I see mention of 2400 baud in the ham packet literature,
but I haven't been able to tell when (if ever) it is used.

Does it make any sense to bother getting 2400 baud equipment, or 
is everything at 1200 & 9600?  

And is all TCP/IP at 9600 and above?

Plodding along at 1200, 
--Shawn
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: estey@skyler.mavd.honeywell.com
Subject: 9600 Baud and Kenwood/Alinco?
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:55:01 GMT

Has anyone had experience with adapting the Alinco 110 vhf mobile radio to
9600 baud packet operation?  How about the Kenwood 7950, 7850 or 7830?

73
Carl WA0CQG
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Phone: Work (612) 541-5136  |  Flight Systems & Test Operations M/S MN15-2370
       FAX  (612) 542-6003  |  1625 Zarthan Ave. S., St. Louis Park, MN 55416
       Home (612) 432-0699  |  Packet: WA0CQG @ WA0CQG.#SOMSP.MN.USA.NA   
The nonsense here is of my own making - no one else would want credit!
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