From: phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi)
Subject: Final response from JC to BS
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 02:15:44 GMT

Even with his impeccable logic, there are few spots that Mr. BS Kim was
slightly misled by my childish reasoning.  To perfect his posting to the
level that he can proudly call his own, I will correct a few of my noise
that disturbed his prose.

>   This is not a question.  It is really hard to be a mentor
>   for this kind of pupil.  Read between the lines!

More likely reason why it is hard for you to be a mentor is the lack of
qualification.  And this is the first time I see someone encouraging others
to read between his own lines.  So, obediently, I did.  It was very funny
and interesting. :)

>   Did you say you missed your high-school education from Korea
>   to learn Portuguese? :) :)

No.  By the way, I managed to both study Portuguese and graduate from high
school.  How about you?  Pelo menos voce poderia ter aprendido a calar em
vez de continuar com sua besteira.  Que cara pentelho!  (Isto nao e uma
pergunta.  E muito dificil ser um mentor para este tipo de porcaria de
estudante.  Leia entre as linhas!)  If you are curious about the content,
learn the language.

>>also what should these naturalized korean-born Americans are to do when
>>Korea declares war against the U.S. in the fashion that Japan did in
1940s.
>>Please do not ignore me this time.  I really want to know.

>   1-b) You fight for the U.S.

Monster!!!!   Monster!!!!!!   Monster!!!!!!  You are MONSTERIZED!!!!

>   You described yourself as an individualist.  Why do you care what
>   other people think?  If they are running for the Presient, do not
>   vote for them.  Isn't it simple?

It is always amusing to chase down inconsistency to the point where it
finally cracks.  Inconsistency or dual standard never admits its own flaws
peacefully.  I vaguely remember seeing an example recently...  :)

>   Why don't you distinguish between Idealism and Realism?

Why don't you learn to admit your own dual standard?  (This is not a
question.  It is really hard to be a mentor for this kind of pupil.  Read
between the lines!)

>   2) Once you change your mind, that's it.  Do not look back.

Promoting un-natural and un-humane attitudes?  Wow.  (This is not a
question.  It is really hard to be a mentor for this kind of pupil.  Read
between the lines!)

>   Yes, you changed your mother for a new gorgious blonde.
>   Only thing she gave to you is "a birth and sticky affection".
>   So, you chose polished manners and individualism instead of these
>   sticky things inherited.
>   I think you like this kind of comparison, don't you?

No.  I stay away from agism, sexism and racism.

>>Which oaths can be taken literally, and which oaths can not?  

>   3) Take all of them. 

What happen to the humane and natural connection to the past?  (This is not
a question.  It is really hard to be a mentor for this kind of pupil.  Read
between the lines!)

>   You like a simple direct answer, don't you?

I like to get an answer, period.  I just don't like BS that goes on and on.
Is your middle name BS?  Or first and middle name BS?  (This is not a
question.  It is really hard to be a mentor for this kind of pupil.  Read
your own name!)

>   Why did you forget the baptism?

I did not.  Many people are baptized before they can speak or think.  What
was given does not pertain to this discussion.  We are talking about what
people choose.

>   Will you treat me as in Geneva Convention if I were arrested as
>   a POW?

Yes!  Please do not worry.  You have my word, and you know how I try to
keep my word literally. :)

>   In case you don't get it again, I have to tell you this.  The detention
>   thing is just an example for how idealism and reality are different.
>   It does not mean necessarily it should happen.  Sigh...

I thought I got the message until I read this.  You are a master of BS, Mr.
BS Kim.

>   Actually they are not necessarily opportunistic with relate to their
>   citizenship and background.  They are just opportunistic without
>   regard to their citizenship.

Dual citizen is a great tool for abuse for those who are already so
inclined.  And, yes, I am very sensitive to those who abuse and exploit the
system.  I tend to blow whistle rather easily.  Are you more tolerant to
the abusers?  (This is not a question.  It is really hard to be a mentor
for this kind of pupil.  Read between the lines!)

>   According to your theory:
>   1) If he stays in America with a green card, he is an opportunist
>      who is taking advantage of America's resources.

No.  It was the contract between the U.S. and him.  U.S. lets him live, and
he remains productive.  He is actually contributing to the U.S.  No oath
was broken.

>   2) If he goes back to Korea for a better job, he is also an 
>      opportunist.

There is no promise that he broke.  Such action is understood and expected.
He took no oath of any kind.

>   3) If he says "Yes" reluctantly, he is a liar, betrayer, and
>      opportunist. --  I think he WILL be in this category, eventually.

It all depends on what he does when the time comes.  From his posting, I
got the feeling that he will say yes only when he means it.  He is fine
until he breaks his oath.

>   4) If he says "Yes" willingly, he is the one like you.

You mean one like us.  Didn't you say one should fight for the US?

>      You also said one can be a PATRIOT as Chopin.  I don't get this
>      point of yours... Anyway, let's proceed.

I am not clear about this either.  But he is classified as a patriotic
composer in music history books.  You can contact the editor.  Let me know
what they say.

>   Listen to this.
>   I do not intend to be harsh to you anymore.  Don't try to make
>   yourself a miserable soul by being such insatiable and egocentric.
>   Years ago, Jimmy Swagart called Jim Baker a poisonous mushroom in
>   the God's Land.  What did he prove himself later on? 

It will do you well to listen to yourself in this case.

>   To talk is simple, life is not.       - B. Sean Kim

Well, I can see that it is true for you.  But putting some real coherent
meaning into words is a little more difficult.  I found both "talk" and
"life" to be very complex.  You may understand what I mean as you gain more
experience and broaden your horizon.

>     You're welcome, James.  But you got flunked.  You didn't get the
>     point yet.  Sorry, I can't give you any more chance.
>     Come again next semester. :)

Of course I would flunk (or should I say "got flunked") your course.  It
will take me a long time to reach your level of inconsistency and
incoherency.  I hope I will never make it to your level.  But keep up with
your good writing between the lines.  When you have time, put some effort
on the lines itself as well.  Now I enjoy them both.  :)

James Choi

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