HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kristi@arbs1.larc.nasa.gov (Kristi Skeens)
Subject: Re: Hackneyed/cliches
Reply-To: kristi@arbs1.larc.nasa.gov (Kristi Skeens)
Organization: NASA-Langley Research Center
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 12:32:01 GMT

In article <33088@darkstar.ucsc.edu>, indigo@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Adam Schneider) writes:
|> 
|>   While I'm complaining about noxious reactionary patterns in C&W, 
|> it would also be nice if there was a little less sexism in country
|> music.  Seems like even the female artists are singing about domestic
|> bliss, the joys of housewifery, and other American myths.  
|>   How 'bout it?  Are there others out there in r.m.c.w. land who
|> want something new?

We had "something new" and we lost her....kd lang.


---
kristi
From: stewarte@sco.COM (nibbled to death by an okapi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Peter Stampfel/Holy Modal Rounders
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 19:34:11 GMT
Organization: Captain Napalm's Thermonuclear League of Liberty


In response to those folks who were asking about Stampfel's whereabouts,
I can confirm that he is definitely still alive & making music.  He's
released two albums with the Bottlecaps -- the first, on Rounder, was
sort of demented country music; the second, "People's Republic of
Rock & Roll" on Homestead, is more rock (as the title suggests), with
less of Peter's fiddle but just as much of his offbeat humor.  The
Bottlecaps are working on a third album, and Peter's also at work on 
a solo album consisting of covers of '30s and '40s pop tunes.

He also makes a couple of brief cameo appearances on "Apollo 18", the
new album by They Might Be Giants -- but that's really going far afield
for this newsgroup.

-- Stewart
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Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Lucinda Williams
From: pscott@pandanus.cs.ntu.edu.au (Phil Scott)
Date: 16 Apr 92 11:59:45 +0900
Organization: Computer Science, Northern Territory University, Australia

In article <1992Apr15.184130.23041@uwm.edu> becca@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Rebecca M Hendrick) writes:
>I seem to remember reading somewhere a recent review of a concert that included
>Lucinda Williams, Mary Chapin Carpenter and another woman whose name escapes
>me.  It sounded very interesting and I'd be curious to know if this is
>a tour that I should keep my eyes open for in the near future.

They did a few shows last year in the south eastern capital cities in
Australia (certainly in Melbourne, where my source of information saw the
performance - unfortunately they didn't come to Darwin).  It was an
all-acoustic concert, just the performers on stage taking turns to play
their own songs, no backing at all except their own guitars.  Lucinda Williams
and Mary Chapin-Carpenter were, from all accounts, excellent.
The third person was Rosanne Cash, who was totally outclassed by the
other two but still not bad.  My friends who saw the concert have hardly
stopped talking about it 6 months later.

However, in regard to your question, I get the impression that
the 3 performer arrangement was the idea of a local promoter, so it may
well have been for Australia only.  Sorry 'bout that.

Cheers,
-- 
Phil Scott (pscott@cs.ntu.edu.au) Phone: +61 89 466519 Fax: +61 89 270612
Dept. Computer Science, NTU, PO Box 40146, Casuarina, NT, 0811, Australia
From: ploessldeann@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: George Strait Movie
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:23:13 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

In article <14APR199213094321@venus.lerc.nasa.gov>, uuwayne@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Wayne Stopak) writes:
> I heard that George Strait will start shooting a movie around May 8th.  It's
> going to be about a country singer/(romance?).  I don't know if it will be a
> made for TV movie.  Anybody out there know more about it?  Who will be the
> female lead?
> |______________________________________|_______________________________________|

I caught something about it on Crook and Chase (TNN show) -- they said he 
grew a beard for it.  That was about all I caught.  Sorry I didn't pay more 
attention.  Anyone out there know the exact date it will be broadcast?
Thanks in advance!


Deanna
From: tjohnson@cs.washington.edu (Ty Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Lucinda Williams
Summary: great album
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:04:58 GMT
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle

There's also a 1988 Lucinda Williams (self-titled) CD with eleven excellent
songs on it. It's one of my favorite albums. As to how she sounds (great!) 
the best description I can think of is a cross between Loretta Lynn and 
Michelle Shocked, if that makes any sense at all (probably not). Oh, the
CD was put out by Rough Trade Records, and I think it has all but one of the
songs that she sang on Austin City Limits. 
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: shenkin@avogadro.barnard.columbia.edu (Peter S. Shenkin)
Subject: Re: Musical Tastes
Organization: Dept. of Chem, Barnard College, Columbia U, New York
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 00:09:18 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.221357.25215@rice.edu> 
kerryg@stat.rice.edu (Kerry Go) writes:

>"She is His Only Need"  This is a terribly unhealthy attitude.  He must be
>codependent.
>
>Just off the top of my head.  I'm sure there are many more examples if I
>chose to look.

How about George's, "He stopped loving her today"?  Or, "I know that my
life's been a failure, just watchin' the bubbles in my beer."  Or, "I'm
gonna be drinkin' and drivin' that woman right off my mind."  Or (George
again), "I'll be over you when the grass grows over me." Or, "You'll be
someone who's born to lose, cause I need someone like me, to ho-wo-wo-wold
onto."  Or.... 

If you're against codependence and unhealthy attitudes, you'd better
switch newsgroups and/or radio stations!

	:-),
	-P.
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From: ploessldeann@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: TNN is now descrambled
Date: 8 Apr 92 11:03:07 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

In article <12966@bwdls58.bnr.ca>, golka@bnr.ca writes:
> With the new full service cable format, I now have access to TNN.
> The local paper here in Ottawa doesn't carry much info regarding 
> what's on TNN.  What are your favourite shows and when are they on?  
> I am particulaly interested in Bluegrass but I would like input on 
> anything you think is worth watching.
> 
> Thanks, 
>  
> Kevin Golka,        613-763-3474
> ==============================================================
> The opinions expressed are not necessarliy those of BNR or NT.
> Please do not send EMAIL to me,  as I can not receive it.
> ==============================================================

Country America magazine contains a monthly program guide to TNN.  It has 
some neat shows, with my personal favorites being Video Morning and Video 
PM shows.  Evenings are kind of fun with the new format for Crook & Chase (
7 pm Central) and Nashville Now is ususally pretty good (if you like Ralph 
Emery)  The ocassional specials are pretty good too.  My best advice is to 
subscribe to Country America--it's worth it for if only for the guide.

Deanna
From: thughes@lonestar.utsa.edu (Toby . Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Musical Tastes
Date: 13 Apr 92 23:33:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: ringer.1992Apr13.233315.18526
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio


"Gonna Hire a Wino (To Decorate Our Home)  was David Frizell WITHOUT
Shelly West.  The DF/SW duo wasn't a real long-term thing.

Don't remember anything Lacy J. Dalton did that I didn't like!

TH
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western,rec.arts.tv
From: peea224@chpc.utexas.edu (Joanna L. Castillo)
Subject: Re: CBS western about Ned Blessing
Followup-To: rec.arts.tv
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 21:27:14 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.143114.1307@bvc.edu> ploessldeann@bvc.edu writes:
>Does anyone know anything about the westtern movie on CBS last night called 
>"The Life and Times of Ned Blessing"?
>Is it going to be a series, or will it be a series of movies like the 
>Desparado bunch?  

Ned Blessing was originally supposed to be a series but CBS apparently
didn't have enough faith in it and decided to run the movie and make a 
decision about it after they saw how it did in the ratings.  That's the 
story I heard anyway.

>It left me hanging and I am going to go loco until I know the ending.
>I believe the lead was played by one of Baldwin brothers --he sure looked 
>like one anyway.

That was Daniel Baldwin -- who's last series work was in the sitcom
"Sidney" starring Valerie Bertanelli (sp?), I believe.

>Can anyone help me?

There you go...write to CBS and tell them how much you enjoyed it.
Note the followup before anybody in r.m.c.w flames me -- this 
discussion has been redirected to the appropriate group.

>Deanna

Joanna.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com!marshall (Bob Marshall)
Subject: Re: Suzy Bogguss' "Aces"
Reply-To: marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 20:23:48 GMT

In article <8dsa1hq00iV109aH1S@andrew.cmu.edu>, vc0e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Valerie H. Carver) writes:
>The song 'Outbound PLane' is written by Nanci Griffith, and can be found
>on the album 'Little Love Affairs'.  Her version is wonderful, and so is
>the whole album, or anything done by Nanci for that matter.  In
>reference to Suzy Bogguss' earlier albums, I have heard that she yodels
>on a few songs.  I am not saying that is bad, but some people cannot get
>into yodeling.

The yodeling was on her first album, "Somewhere Between", which I think is
her best album by far. She does a smash-up version of "I Want To Be a 
Cowboy's Sweetheart", in which she does some yodeling, and there is also
some yodeling in "Night Rider's Lament". I think it really adds to those
two songs.

I agree with you about "Little Love Affairs", my favorite Nanci Griffith
album. I haven't liked Nanci's recent directions, though.
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From: thughes@lonestar.utsa.edu (Toby . Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Musical Tastes
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:18:23 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.country.western
Organization: Univ of Texas at San Antonio

Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Keywords:

Sorry, but it WAS David, not Shelley.  The lyrics are;

"And she said,
'Im gonna hire a wino, etc."

TH
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: velmeran@milton.u.washington.edu (Jack Brown)
Subject: Re: Musical Tastes
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 09:10:59 GMT

>>	"God Bless the USA" by Lee Greenwood

I know what you mean.  The sad thing is that I really liked this one when
it came out.  Its just that I got sick of hearing it roughly every third
song played on the radio during the Gulf War...


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aka velmeran@u.washington.edu		beware of low-flying aircraft

"Our opinion of the gods and our knowledge of men leads us to conclude that
it is a general and necessary law of nature to rule whatever one can."

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Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: uuwayne@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Wayne Stopak)
Subject: Re: Musical Tastes
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  8 Apr 1992 12:16 EDT  

I think I have a winner (or shall I say loser):

My vote goes for "Smokin' the Hive" by Clint Eastwood and Randy Travis.
It's on Travis' album "Heroes and Friends".

Believe it or not, I actually heard this play on a local country station.

It's got to be one of the all-time worst (and not because of Randy) !
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Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: derry@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John Derry)
Subject: MARTIN GUITAR FOR SALE
Keywords: GUITAR FORSALE MARTIN
Reply-To: derry@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John Derry)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:42:32 GMT




                             For sale:

1947 Martin D-18 in excellent condition.  Never drilled or modified.

$2400.  Owner has no access to e-mail, so contact:

Daryl Jones
5523 E. Maple Street
Danville  IN  46122

Phone: 317-745-3225 evenings
From: thughes@lonestar.utsa.edu (Toby . Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Musical Tastes
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:00:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio


Yep, 'American Made' is a contender, but it can't hold a candle to Buck
Owens's 'Made in Japan.'

"My transistor radio comes from far away,
And when it's night over here, over there it's the break of day.

(Etc, etc,)

When I fell in love with a girl made in Japan."

TH
From: "steve waller" <steve.waller@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: suzy bogguss' "aces"
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:29:42 EST
Reply-To: "steve waller" <steve.waller@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

BR>Anyone have an opinion on "Aces" by Suzy Bogguss?  I heard the song
BR>"Outbound Plane" and liked it a lot.  I see the song is listed in the
BR>top country songs, but what about the rest of the CD?

I bought "ACES" cause I LOVED Suzy's version of Ian Tyson's "Someday
Soon", but was disappointed with the rest of the CD (probably cause
I was looking for clones of "Someday Soon").  Then a week or so later
I played the disc again and fell in love with "Outbound Plane".  Now
I find myself playing it fairly often as I like other songs esp
"Yellow River Road" and "Aces".

In response to someone elses reply...I'm pretty sure that I've seen 
(and heard) Suzy yodel on TV.  She doesn't yodel on this disc (unless
I've managed to block it out pretty good <grin>)....steve
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Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: ajw@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.j.whitman)
Subject: Re: Successful/Springsteen
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:17:07 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.024321.23858@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> thughes@lonestar.utsa.edu (Toby . Hughes) writes:
>This is the second time I've seen reference to Emmy Lou's version of
>'Mansion on the Hill' in reply to a question about Bruce Springsteen.
>Admittedly, I know NOTHING about BS.  Does he have a song called 'Mansion
>on the Hill?'  The only one I ever heard with that title was written and
>sung by Hank Williams, and was, in fact, according to legend, the song
>Williams wrote in the office of Fred Rose when asked to prove that the
>songs he had pitched were his own.

Yes, Springsteen wrote a song called "Mansion on the Hill."  It's
on his 1982 album "Nebraska."  And yes, Emmylou has recorded Bruce's
song, not Hank's.  The "Nebraska" album has a bit of Hank in it,
though, as well as a lot of Woody Guthrie-like folksinging.  It's
not exactly what one normally expects from a rock icon, but it's
wonderful in its own way.

>TH

Andy Whitman
AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus, Ohio
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ajw@cblpo.att.com
From: kwh8s@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Kristy A. Hibbs <kwh8s@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU>)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Aaron Tippon's latest and the greatest
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:41:03 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

robs@bcstec.boeing.com  writes:
> I just picked up Aaron Tippon's latest cd.  It is a great album.  I kinda
> thought that if all the songs were like "Nothing Wrong With My Radio" I 
> probably wouldn't care much for it.  But it was on sale and decided to give
> him a try.  He co-wrote all the songs.  I would describe his style as
> he is as unique to C+W as Dwight Yoakum.  Both are country, both are great,
> but both have a different sound.  Awwww, it is a poor description but the
> best I could come up with.   Many thanx to the person who recommended his
> work.
> 
> I would like to find out what C+W usnet'ers think of Chris Leduex.  He 
> has a lot of albums out, but I can't recall ever hearing a song of his.
> If anyone has any comments let um rip.
> -- 
> 
> Robert Sipe
> robs@bcstec.boeing.com
> robs@dsp35001.ca.boeing.com


I too would like information on Chris Leduex.  
Thanks

Kristy Hibbs
Charlottesville VA.
From: pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Musical Tastes
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:30:43 GMT
Organization: Berry Communications

force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com!marshall (Bob Marshall) writes:

> In article <1992Apr6.203609.16459@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, thughes@lonestar.utsa.
> >Just as a matter of curiosity over the things some folks like and others
> >don't, what is, in your opinion, the WORST country music recording you've
> >ever heard?
> 
> I would also nominate anything by Mel McDaniel, starting with the song
> "Baby's Got Her Blue Jeans On".

Augh!  I'm glad I'm not the only person who can't stand that one.  This
isn't just because it's such a *stupid* song, but also because it uses
one of the most pathetic songwriting copouts there is: rhyming a word
with itself.

I also hate "Cadillac Style", for similar reasons.  The person who wrote
it must have saved up cliches and hackneyed phrases for several years in
order to produce that song.

The worst thing about both of these is that they're the kind of song
that get in your head and WON'T STOP!  If I happen to hear a fragment of
either song in the morning, it will continue playing in my brain all
day, driving me completely up the wall.  My coworkers probably wonder
why I'm walking down the hall muttering to myself, "Shut up!  Shut *up*,
dammit!"


Pat Berry                    pat@berry.Cary.NC.US
From: kvt@willow.mitre.org
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Garth tour dates?
Date: 1 Apr 92 13:30:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: linus.1992Apr1.133002.13028
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

In article <1992Mar30.204143.46222@yuma.acns.colostate.edu>  
hanke@CS.ColoState.EDU (brandon laine hanke) writes:
> In article <1992Mar29.190327.4655@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>  
schramb@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCHRAM BRIAN K) writes:
> >I know that G**th is a dirty word on this newsgroup, but 
> >if i asked this question on any other group, i'd get a bunch
> >of blank stares.  is there a reason why his tour dates
> >haven't been posted?  did i miss them?  does nobody care?  isn't
> >he touring?  am i blind?  any ideas?
> >anyhow, i'd like to know if he's comming to the Colorado/Wyoming
> >area.                 
> >-brian
> 
>     I would like to know when he is coming to the Colorado/Wyoming area
>     also.

When's he coming to the DC area?  I'll be first in line!!!
> 
> 
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Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: peea224@chpc.utexas.edu (Joanna L. Castillo)
Subject: Re: Musical Tastes
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 16:44:34 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.042952.1641@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com writes:
>In article <1992Apr6.203609.16459@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, thughes@lonestar.utsa.edu (Toby . Hughes) writes:
>>Just as a matter of curiosity over the things some folks like and others
>>don't, what is, in your opinion, the WORST country music recording you've
>>ever heard?
>
>Well, since Garth Brooks is supposedly a country music artist and "Shameless"
>was played to death on the country music stations I listen to, I guess
>it qualifies as a country music recording. So that's my pick. I pick it
>because it's the only "country" song I can think of that has caused me
>genuine pain to listen to.

I like Garth but I really don't like "Shameless" at all so it gets a 
vote from me too.  Yesterday I had the radio on and had to change the 
station when a song by the Oak Ridge Boys came on.  I don't know the 
name but a couple of the lines are:  

  My baby is American made
  Born and bred in the USA
  
Ugh!  Since I actually had to change the station, it's got to get a 
vote from me.  :-)

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From: rap@tcom.stc.co.uk (Richard Porter)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Black Country Performers
Date: 10 Apr 92 09:32:12 GMT
Reply-To: rap@tcom.stc.co.uk (Richard Porter)
Organization: BNR Europe Limited

My email bounced, so apologies for posting this instead.

The Original Message follows:

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In article <TC21XNC@netmbx.netmbx.de> you write:
>Hello,

>I have a couple of questions.

Fire away!

>a) Was there ever a black Country & Western artist who even had some
>	success?

Charley Pride is the most obvious. He had a whole string of big hits in
the late sixties and seventies. Going back a bit, the first black
performer of any note was probably DeFord Bailley who regularly appeared
on the Grand Ole Opry. Stoney Edwards also comes to mind.

>b) Who holds the record for most ACC #1 Country hits?

Pass.

>c) Who is propably the alltime most successfull male and female artist?

Pass. I guess it's very difficult to compare artists of different eras.
Just a guess: Eddy Arnold, Loretta Lynn.

>d) Who is currently the most popular Country artist?

If you read this newsgroup, someone whose initials are G.B.!

>e) From which region of the USA does the most successfull Country artists
>	come from?

Texas, Tennesee, Virginia and Kentucky. There was a boy from Alabama
who did pretty well too!

>f) Does ever a Country artist covered the song "The River" from Bruce
>	"The Boss" Springsteen?

Pass. But Emmylou Harris has done a very fine version of "Mansion on the
Hill" on her cd with the Nash Ramblers at the Ryman.

>Please reply via mail, I summarize and post.

I tried!

>Thanks,	
>	Axel

It's a pleasure!


Richard

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