From: vino@access.co.JP (Nobuhiko Nishio)
Newsgroups: fj.sys.mac
Subject: Re: Q. about MachTen
Date: 13 Jan 93 04:32:38 GMT
	<RUDIE.93Jan11200014@tono0.cs.meiji.ac.jp>
Reply-To: vino@access.co.jp
Distribution: fj
Organization: ACCESS CO. Ltd. Tokyo, Japan
In-reply-to: rudie@cs.meiji.ac.jp's message of 11 Jan 93 11:00:14 GMT

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In article <RUDIE.93Jan11200014@tono0.cs.meiji.ac.jp> rudie@cs.meiji.ac.jp (Masaharu ARAI) writes:
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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 92 14:01:29 PDT
From: info@tenon.com (TENON Information Service)
To: vino@access.co.jp
Subject: Re:  MachTen

Dear Nobuhiko

Thank you for your inquiry about MachTen.  If you send me your postal
address, I'll mail you a full package of product, pricing and ordering
information.

In the meantime ... MachTen is an implementation of Berkeley's 4.3BSD Unix, 
built on a Carnegie Mellon Mach foundation (Mach 2.5).  It runs as an 
application on the native Macintosh Operating System (MacOS).  Included with 
MachTen are Unix programs and a Mach kernel.  The kernel supports a 
standard Unix applications environment which supports over 300 standard Unix
applications.  That environment also allows all standard Macintosh
programs, such as a Macintosh spreadsheet or desk accessory
application, to run simultaneously with Unix programs.  MachTen extends
MacOS with true Unix multitasking, full internet communications,  a
distributed file system via NFS, and a Unix software development
environment.  MachTen runs on all modern Macintoshes, MacPlus through
Mac IIfx.  The newest release (Release 2.0) extends MachTen to run
on the PowerBooks and Quadras.  

The MachTen Development System adds a powerful software development
capability to Tenon's Unix for the Macintosh.  Included in this
package are the basic GNU C compiler and C preprocessor, a Motorola 68000
assembler, a loader, a symbol table utility, load module tools (ar and
ranlib), a software management tool (make), a set of Tenon compiler
libraries, a set of Unix libraries, a language checker and beautifier (lint
and indent), lex and yacc.  Among the libraries included are a MachTen Unix
system call library, the curses library, NFS library support, termcap 
library support, and a math library that provides an interface to Apple's
Standard Apple Numerics Environment(tm).

Shortly we will release a number of development system enhancements:  
a source language debugger; C++; an interface to the Macintosh Toolbox;  
and a Mach Developer's Toolkit giving you access to C Threads.  

MachTen X Server software, Release 1.4.0, links MachTen users to
X Window applications.  The MachTen X Server package conforms to X11,
Release 4, of MIT's X Window System and runs in conjunction with MachTen
and MacOS.  MachTen internet connectivity lets you access X applications
anywhere in your client/server environment.  MacOS features, such as "copy &
paste", are available from both Tenon's Unix software and Tenon's X
software.  With the click of an icon, users can slide between MacOS
applications, Unix applications, and X applications.

The MachTen X Server software has a built-in window manager that supports up
to six independently configurable X screens, with three styles available:
rooted screens, Macintosh-style rootless windows, or Motif-style rootless
windows.  The software is 8-bit color compatible and includes a built-in
color database and an editor to enable customized color definitions.
Clients can display up to 256 colors simultaneously on color screens.
Support is also available for 8-bit grey scale monitors as well as
monochrome monitors.  Macintosh-style tools are available to create and edit
user-defined scripts to launch X applications.  User specified X clients can
be automatically launched when the MachTen X Server is booted.    

The MachTen X Window client, Release 1.5.0, is an X11 application
development environment based in MIT's X Window System X11, Release 5.
Tenon's X Client software is designed to be used in conjunction with MachTen
and the MachTen Development System.  It enables the development of X
applications under MachTen on the Macintosh.  Included in the package are X
programming libraries (e.g. Xlib, Xt, Xau, Xext, Xi and phigs), Athena
widgets and utilities (e.g. Xaw, Xmu and Xdmcp), configuration files (the
imake configuration system), and documentation from the X11, R5, MIT release
adapted for user under MachTen.  Also included for reference are sources for
a sampler of X client applications (e.g. Xterm, twm and xbiff).  Motif
programming libraries are optionally available.

International Prices:

Workstation License................$ 715
Server License.....................$1000 
Additional Documentation option....$ 210
Development system option..........$ 475
X-Window option, client............$  90
X-Window option, server............$ 240	 
Motif Toolkit option...............$ 150

The distinction between a workstation license and a server license is
the number of I/O ports which allow other users to connect to your
machine, not the number of users, as you might expect.  The difference
is spelled out by our source license from AT&T.  If you have 1 or 2 I/O
ports in use, you qualify for a Workstation license, using up to 8 I/O
ports you need a server.  The console/keyboard count as an I/O port, so
for a Workstation license you can have a modem OR a localtalk
connection OR an Ethernet connection, but not more than one.  The
number of users is not limited in either case, thus you can have a
single network connection (say to Ethernet) and allow multiple users to
log into the machine.

We offer a 10% educational discount for quantity one purchases.  
Excellent volume discounts are also available, even for small departments.

A minimum of 4 MB of RAM is required to run MachTen.  For systems with MacOS
System 7.x and no virtual memory capability, we recommend 5 MB of RAM.

Disk space usage:

Kernel                   13 MB   (20 free needed during installation)
Development System      5.5 MB   (10 free needed during installation)
X-Window Client         4.5 MB   (6 free needed during installation)
X-Window Server         3.7 MB   (3.7 free needed during installation)

The following frequently asked questions are answered below.

Q.  How does MachTen differ from A/UX?
Q.  What networking support does MachTen provide? 
Q.  On what media is MachTen distributed?
Q.  What add-on hardware is supported?  
Q.  Does the "xxx" software package run on MachTen?
Q.  Does MachTen interoperate with other versions of Unix?

Q.  How does MachTen differ from A/UX?

A/UX is an older version of Unix - System V, version 2 - and runs on
the high end Macintoshes only.  It is very expensive in terms of memory
and disk space required (Apple recommends 80 Meg of hard disk space).
MachTen is a smaller, simpler Unix that can run on all Macintoshes with
4MB of RAM and 40MB of hard disk. With MachTen you don't have to
partition your disk - we support a single file system.  MachTen sits on
top of the MacOS, which  means that you don't need special device
drivers.

Q.  What networking support does MachTen provide? 

The kernel includes the full TCP suite of protocols, including telnet
and ftp, the Berkeley r-series, and NFS.  MachTen works over AppleTalk,
ethernet, and can route between the two.  MachTen includes both client
and server NFS. 

MachTen provides interoperability with applications that rely on MacTCP 
such as MacX and Eudora by trapping MacTCP internals with Tenon's mactcp daemon. 
MachTen interoperates with AppleShare servers.

For serial line connectivity, UUCP, cu and SLIP are provided.  MachTen makes
use of the Macintosh Communication Toolbox (CTB) if installed, otherwise it
directly controls the serial port.

The development system includes the Berkeley socket library.

MachTen won an honorable mention in the 1991 MacUser Eddy awards for "Best
Connectivity Software".

Q.  On what media is MachTen distributed?

MachTen is distributed on 3 1/2" floppy disks.  

Q.  What add-on hardware is supported.

Because MachTen sits on top of the Macintosh File system and
interoperates with the Finder, all add-on hardware should work under
MachTen.  MachTen has been used with Syquest drives, Bernoulli drives,
accelerators, multiport serial cards, ethernet cards (NuBus and SCSI)
and video cards, among others.

Q.  Does the "xxx" software package run on MachTen?

Most Unix software packages can be ported to MachTen in a
straightforward way.  MachTen is a "vanilla" BSD 4.3 system, with
standard BSD libraries.  To run on systems with small amounts of
memory and no PMMU, it is sometimes necessary to avoid large automatic
variables by using malloc/free.  Because the Macintosh file system
doesn't support hard links, MachTen supports only symbolic links.  In
some circumstances this necessitates substituting rename(2) for
link(2).

Q.  Does MachTen interoperate with other versions of Unix?

Yes.  It can network with all standard TCP/IP implementations.  We can
exchange tar-format floppies with other Unix machines such as SCO and
A/UX.  MachTen's NFS has been used with Sun systems, IBM R/6000 and NeXT,
among others.

>Can I buy it through VISA credit card with E-Mail?

Yes.  I have included a MachTen Order Form.  You can fill in your credit
card number and email the form to our Sales Depatment (sales@teon.com).

>Is there site-license?

Yes.  We offer corporate site licenses with good discounts.  If you are
interested in a site license, please let us know what your requirements are.

I hope I have answered all of your questions.  If not, please feel free
to email me again.  Thank you.

Regards,

Laura
________________
Laura Griffin        info@tenon.com

*************************************************************************

                                                      Date: _______________


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  |                                |  LIST    |         |SHIPPING|          |
  |              PRODUCT           |  PRICE   |QUANTITY |CHARGES |  TOTAL   |
  |                                |          |         |per unit|          |
  |________________________________|__________|_________|________|__________|
  |MachTen Kernel (Workstation)    |  $715.00 |         |$ 45.00 |          |
  |________________________________|__________|_________|________|__________|
  |MachTen Kernel (Server)         | $1000.00 |         |  45.00 |          |
  |________________________________|__________|_________|________|__________|
  |Kernel Technical Documentation  |  $210.00 |         |  45.00 |          |
  |________________________________|__________|_________|________|__________|
  |Development System Option       |  $475.00 |         |  70.00 |          |
  |  (requires Kernel)             |          |         |        |          |
  |________________________________|__________|_________|________|__________|
  |X Window(R) Client              |  $ 90.00 |         |  35.00 |          |
  |  (requires Development System) |          |         |        |          |
  |________________________________|__________|_________|________|__________|
  |Motif Toolkit(R)                |  $150.00 |         |  35.00 |          |
  |  (requires X Client)           |          |         |        |          |
  |________________________________|__________|_________|________|__________|
  |X Window Server                 |  $240.00 |         |  35.00 |          |
  |  (requires Kernel)             |          |         |        |          |
  |________________________________|__________|_________|________|__________|
  |Maintenance-Full                |$475.00/yr|         |  N/A   |          |
  |________________________________|__________|_________|________|__________|
  |Maintenance-Limited             |$120.00/yr|         |  N/A   |          |
  |________________________________|__________|_________|________|__________|
  |                                                 SUBTOTAL     |          |
  |______________________________________________________________|__________|
  |                                                 TOTAL        |          |
  |______________________________________________________________|__________|


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