HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Mac vs. PC
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:54:42 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

In article <torrie.720726145@Xenon.Stanford.EDU>, torrie@cs.stanford.edu
(Evan Torrie) wrote:
> 
> aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman) writes:
> >was barely even competing with the 8088 by 1984.  Remember, the IBM PC
> >was introduced in 1981, the XT in 82 or 83 (I forget which) -- by the
> >time the Mac came out, the AT was out and the 286 was the high-end
> >microprocessor.  And as I have pointed out, a 286 machine is certainly
> >as usable with current software as a Mac Plus is.
> 
>   The IBM AT came out in August 1984.  I have the Byte issue to prove it.
> The Macintosh 512K came out in the same month, 7 months after the
> Mac 128K.

Actually, the Mac 512K was announced in August, 1984, but wasn't
distributed until October 1, 1984.

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Evan Torrie.  Stanford University, Class of 199?       torrie@cs.stanford.edu 
> Embrace rationalism, reject superstition.           Break away from the past.
> "...there is only one thing worse than having marketing people on a project,
>  and that is having no marketing people on a project."  - Larry Tesler.

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From: bates@banana.ucsb.edu (Bates)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Cricket Draw III For Sale
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:02:53 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara


    I have a brand-new, unopened Cricket Draw III for the Macintosh for sale.
I will sell to the highest reasonable offer.  Please email me if you want it.

        Andy Bates.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: englhq@rosie.uh.edu (Franklet, Duane L.)
Subject: SE/30 HD snuffed out. Twice.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:35:00 GMT

I'm looking for any advice or suggestions. Twice in the last week, which
seems like an awfully odd coincidence, I've had SE/30's fail to
recognize their hard drives.

None of the usual commercial utilities (Symantec, Norton, MacTools)
are able to see the hard drive's presence. The disk light comes on for
a moment at boot, and then the disk question mark icon.

I've thrown about every other utility I have at this, like SCSI Probe,
the Mount Any Hard Drive application, HD setup--none of them seem to
see anything, although one called SCSI Tester takes a given SCSI ID
through a number of phases. I noticed that ID 0 does go further along--
through the Arbitration Phase, Selection, Command, and then at Status
Phase it bombs out. This is further than the other ID's go. This also may
be pure nonsense.

After much fiddling, the first machine did resurrect itself, although
I can't be sure whether through my own efforts or coincidence. 
The second machine--no luck yet.

What could cause this? I've got the Disinfectant 2.9 Init installed, so
I like to think this is not a virus. I suppose someone could have ignored
its messages, or it didn't pick up on anything. This just seems too 
coincidental to be hardware failure .....

Puzzled.

___________________
Duane Franklet
englhq@jetson.uh.edu
From: crussell@samson.hac.com (Chris Russell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Will the 1st generation PowerPCs be Talige
Date: 5 Nov 92 04:59:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: hacgate.23897
Reply-To: crussell@samson.hac.com
Organization: Hughes Training Incorporated, WCO

In article 8641@dirac.physics.purdue.edu, sho@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Sho Kuwamoto) writes:
> Has Taligent made any statements about their OS running
> (eventually) on 1st generation PowerPCs from Apple? [...]
> I want to be guaranteed that Taligent will run on the thing.

About 6 months ago, I remember reading an article stating that the first PowerPCs
will NOT be running the "Pink"/"Taligent" O/S initially but rather Unix with
X Windows and Motif, with "Pink" to follow at some unspecified time.  Take this
as complete rumor, since the article was printed some time ago, has not been
followed up on, and the PowerPCs are still a long ways away.  (I take anything
I hear about them as rumor right now... 'cause it is.)

I'll be happy to have A/UX on my Duo 230!  (I hope Apple heard that...)

Chris Russell
Internet: crussell%samson.hac.com@hac2arpa.hac.com
GTE:      714/399-1620
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From: Dr. Fair
Subject: Re: SIMMS for Sale
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:24:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.173427.954@rei.com>, naizer@rei.com (jonathan naizer)
wrote:
> 
> I've got 4 4mbx8 70ns SIMM modules for Sale. First offer over $150ea.
> 214-579-5820. This is a total of 16MB

Eat my shorts, you price-gouging PRICK!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Distribution: world
From: Joe_D._Ciarcia@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 12:39:30 EST
Subject: Re: How Long are people waiting?

Bob,
   I ordered my ][vx 5/80 CD on 10/27/92 (92' thank you captain obvious).  I
have heard rumours that Apple has been having trouble getting the large
quantities of 300i CD players that they need for the VX.  I called Apple and they
said "over the next month to 6 weeks the ][vx will be shipping in limited
quantities".  The education program is far from tops on Apples list of
priorities.  I wouldn't get your hopes up.  Well I'll post a message when I
get my machine .... until then..... have fun waiting!! C Ya, Joe C.
********************************************************************
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Cute quote:  Being a computer means never having to say you're sorry
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From: rgonzal@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Ralph Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: DirectDrive 80 by Jasmine is dead !!!
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:36:10 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

oh@himalaya.gatech.edu (Yong-Chul Oh) writes:

>Suddenly 80 Mb Jasmine drive does not mount at all.
>Anybody experienced a similar problem?

Yeah, this happened to my brother's Jasmine drive. Turned out all
we had to do was open it up and unplug and replug the cable attaching
the drive to the power supply. Apparently the pins sometimes make
poor contact. You may need to resolder the connectors to the cable.

Another common problem is "stiction", where the drive doesn't 
begin spinning unless you give the cabinet a quick "twist" to
get it started.

-Ralph
-- 
Ralph Gonzalez, Computer Science, Rutgers Univ., Camden, NJ
Phone: (609) 757-6122; Internet: rgonzal@elbereth.rutgers.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: geo@netcom.com (George Pontis)
Subject: 25MHz IIsi works for me too
Keywords: 25 MHz IIsi
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:05:32 GMT

Just did the upgrade on my IIsi. I was surprised how tough it was to get
the 40 MHz xtal out, and I consider myself to be pretty good with an iron
and hand tools. Bought a new 50 MHz xtal from Fry's: $3.59.

Regarding the on-board RAM, mine had 70ns chips. The four 2M SIMMS that
I added were rated 80ns.


The CPU is running about 60C without a heat sink. This is probably OK in
my Mac since it's left on all the time. With thermal cycling from constant
on-off, a heat radiator would be of some benefit. Also, the 68030 is rated
for 20MHz. These things only get slower with temperature, so anything to keep
it cooler would be valuable with this sort of speedup. Fry's didn't have any
small heat "sinks" that looked appropriate, but I'll keep a lookout for an
aluminum sink with round or square pins at least 0.2" high. The chip is 
about 1 inch on a side, which provides enough area to permit the convenient
use of double stick tape for attachment.

George
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: cmhaar@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Chris Haar)
Subject: si internal drive capacity
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Northwestern University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:59:12 GMT

When I opened my IIsi for the first time, I was struck by the amount of
space there seemed to be near the front of the computer (where the hard
drive and floppy drive reside).  There seems to be plenty of room for an
additional internal HD on top of the original (an IBM! of all makes), but
no place to mount it securely to the chassis.  Similarly, all the space on
the right side of the computer is occupied by the floppy drive encased in a
seemingly overblown mounting bracket.

Does anyone have any experiences to share, especially re: adding additional
internal HD's to that apparently wasted space?

Thanks,
cmh
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: koo@python.cis.ohio-state.edu (chee kian koo)
Subject: Need help on MIDI
Summary: setup Keyboard to Computer
Keywords: MIDI
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 04:15:21 GMT

I got a YAMAHA keyboard PSR 75, I like to connect it to Macintosh Classic, but
this keyboard does not have a MIDI interface. 
The only external output is AUX outlet, How can I get a MIDI to convert
analog to Digital and feed it to the computer.

My Classic comes with a 2MB memory.

There is a MIDI interface available to connect MIDI to computer. However I don't
have the MIDI outlet.

Anyone out there knows how to solve this problem, please help



CheeKian Koo
From: howie@intermec.com (Howard Kaplan x1696)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Weird IIsi + 7.1
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:55:59 GMT
Reply-To: howie@intermec.com (Howard Kaplan x1696)
Organization: Intermec Corporation, Everett WA

In article <1992Nov9.135714.3984@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au> u2087546@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (The Jester) writes:
>Hi everyone.
>I'm getting some slow Speedometer 3.1 results from my IIsi now that
>I've installed system 7.1. I've adjusted the disk cache from 384k-2048k
>with no difference to the CPU results. These are:
>                         7.1                7.0.1+Tuner
>      CPU:              4.35                 5.45
>      GRAPHICS:         5.92                 6.55
>      DISK:             1.85                 1.87
>      MATH:             7.93                 19.98
>      Overall:          4.40                 6.50
>
>It appears that 7.1 no longer includes the SANE trap, but why such a
>low CPU result? The 8-bit video result jumps from 1.25 for 7.0.1 to
>1.41 for 7.1 while all the other depths are worse off. I have no extraneous
>inits or cdevs loaded.
>Any ideas?
>
>Steve Margelis










Has anyone run tests on the vx yet.  If 7.1 does not have the SANE trap does
it mean the vx will not use its internal FPU for math calculations?  Is use
of the FPU application dependant?


Howard Kaplan












P.S. - In case you are wondering why all the "white" space, it seems that
unless the follow up article submitted is longer than the original the
article gets rejected with some weird message about "inews" rejecting it be
cause I included more text than the follow up message. Anyone know how to
avoid this wierd stuff?
From: kucharsk@solbourne.com (William Kucharski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Rise in memory prices, why?
Date: 11 Nov 1992 15:31:13 -0700
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc., Longmont, CO
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: anthrax-fddi.solbourne.com

While reading article <1992Nov11.190950.15335@src.umd.edu>, I noticed that
josip@eng.umd.edu (Josip Loncaric) said the following:
 >I believe MacWeek had a story on this -- I seem to remember them saying that
 >the U.S. concluded South Koreans were dumping memory chips below cost, so
 >that some penalties were applied, and the price of 1Mb SIMM went from $29 up
 >to $49.  My memory could be hazy, since I do not have the article in front
 >of me, but in essence the price rise involves trade dispute over dumping.

One important thing to note is that the penalties have NOT been assessed as
of yet; the mere threat of penalties has caused prices to raise in anticipation
of penalties yet to be imposed.  This is best compared to the way gas prices
rise with increasing world tensions, regardless of whether there is actually
any change in gas/oil availability at all.  Call it price gouging, if you like,
or simply opportunism - the fact remains that no penalties have yet been
assessed.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: sje@xylos.ma30.bull.com (Steven J. Edwards)
Subject: Street price data points, PB160
Reply-To: sje@xylos.ma30.bull.com
Organization: Bull HN, Worldwide Information Systems, Billerica, Mass., USA
Distribution: comp
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:35:22

There's been a lot of press about the new Powerbook models in the
various media.  Here's some street price information for the PB160 at
a retail outlet in southern New Hampshire:

	Memory	Disk	Price
	Mbyte	Mbyte   US$
	------	-----	-----
PB160	4	40	2400
PB160	4	80	2700
PB160	4	120	3000

Prices rounded to nearest US$10.

And on a different note:

Why is it that the pixel dimensions of the PBs are 640 by 400 instead
of the nearly universal 640 by 480 for the PC notebook market?  Also,
is it true that all the new PBs (actually, every model except the
100) have 32 bit wide data memory paths?

 [The above opinions expressed are my own; not necessarily held by others.]
      == Steven J. Edwards           Bull HN Information Systems Inc. ==
      == (508) 294-3484              300 Concord Road         MS 820A ==
      == sje@xylos.ma30.bull.com     Billerica, MA 01821          USA ==
"That Government which Governs the Least, Governs Best." -- Thomas Jefferson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: cole@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Sandra Stewart-Cole)
Subject: Re: Changing DTR on a Mac II serial port
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 05:18:45 GMT

In <jhgillespie-121192151816@josquin.ucdavis.edu> jhgillespie@ucdavis.edu 
(John Gillespie) writes:

>I want to use the DTR line on the modem port of a Mac II to send
>a timed pulse to some lab equipment.  I am totally unfamiliar
>with low-level programming on the Mac so I need help bad! My assumption is
>that I can write to the control register on the Z8530 by writing a control
>byte to address sccWBase+aCtl.  Is that correct?  Next question: What
>is the numeric value of sccWBase and aCtl on the Mac II?  Am I correct
>in thinking that the serial driver is of no help here?  Finally,
>I can't be the first one to want to do this, is there a book or FAQ or
>something pointing the way?  Thanks for any help that you can offer!


Correct, the serial  driver is probably useless here. For the specific address
of sccWBase, you need to read the system global SCCWr, which on any Mac holds 
the long value of sccWBase. aCtl is just a define equal to 2. All this comes 
out of Inside Mac vol III (1st edition. IM 2nd edition is a very different 
beast, and the relevant volumes have not been published)  If you are using a 
decent Mac development system (MPW, either THINK package, or most any others 
except Turbo Pascal) all these should be already defined in Apple's standard 
headers (I'd bet either Serial.h or SysEqu.h or both for the C packages, and 
similarly named files for anything else) 
        Definitely check out IM v.III (p. 25 or so) and maybe also the 
relevant hardware changes in vols IV and V (which cover the Plus, SE, and II)  
You might also look for Zilog's manuals for the 8530. 
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From: bill@kirkwood.sybase.com (Bill McFarland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: DeskWriter Paper
Date: 4 Nov 92 19:28:15 GMT

The best quality and most economical solution I've found is to use
24 lb. laser printer paper in the deskwriter.  It costs me $5.99 for
a package of 500 sheets at BizMart in the Bay Area (California).

any 24 lb. paper will do, I'd imagine.  20 lb. paper has "fuzzies" and
"hairs" around the letters.  24 lb. paper does not.

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Sybase, Inc., 6475 Christie Street, Emeryville, CA 94608    bill@sybase.com
These are my opinions and have nothing to do with Sybase, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: isr@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Michael S. Schechter - ISR group account)
Subject: 14" Monitro- 359 at sears
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 16:43:45 EST



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From: kuechenm@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Help for SCSI Device Problem
Date: 9 Nov 92 00:18:27 GMT
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA


	Here's the problem. I got an internal Apple HD SC 20. The drive works
fine when I use it in my LCII, so I know that the formatting isn't a problem.
The trouble comes when I try to put it in an old external case that used to
house a 5 1/4 in hard drive. The power and SCSI connections seem to match and
the wires are all continuous, but when I put the 3 1/2 drive into the case and
try to get the whole thing to work, it won't. SCSI Probe won't find any devices
connected to the bus and reports SCSI Bus unterminated even though I have a 
terminator on the unused SCSI plug of the external case.
	Any suggestions on what to check or try next would be appreciated via
e-mail, rather than posts. Especially, I'm interested in how to change the SCSI
address on the drive. I suspect that it involves changing the jumpers on the 
controller board, but I'm not certain.
	Thanks for any assistance rendered,
Dave Kuechenmeister
kuechenm@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil
From: jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: where are the PB 180's?
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:16:02 GMT
	<1992Nov6.213807.11907@cs.brown.edu>
	<D88-SLI.92Nov9131615@dront.nada.kth.se>
	<D88-SLI.92Nov12120934@dront.nada.kth.se>
Distribution: comp
Organization: USC-ISI
In-reply-to: d88-sli@dront.nada.kth.se's message of 12 Nov 92 11:09:34 GMT

In article <D88-SLI.92Nov12120934@dront.nada.kth.se> d88-sli@dront.nada.kth.se (Stefan Lindmark) writes:

>After having heard rumours ranging from "Low production capacity",
>"Certain configurations are delayed" to "Screen problems" I got a
>report from Apple Sweden saying "Lacking components". I wonder what
>the next excuse will be :-)
>
>Hmm... Maybe I4ll just cancel my PB and buy a SparcBook instead...
>

If that's really an option for you, I wish you would.  That way, my
180 will get here sooner. ;-)  (I'm not interested in having a
notebook version of my Sparc -- ugh -- at work, or some DOS/Windows
notebook.  I've used MacOS, MacOS is a friend of mine, and DOS/Windows
is no MacOS.)

jas
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: derosa@rtsg.mot.com (John DeRosa)
Subject: Hacintosh Plans?
Reply-To: motcid!derosa@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 02:59:19 GMT

Does anyone have the plans for the Hacintosh 
that appeared in Computer Shopper some years
ago?  Thanks, John
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=  thanks          derosa@ssd.comm.mot.com                       =
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From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: What's an EVE Box?
Date: 6 Nov 1992 19:43:28 GMT
Organization: Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

In article <1992Nov6.004417.10354@netcom.com> lui@netcom.com (Stephen Lui)
writes:
>We have two Mac IIci's here at work with a box between the machine and the
>keyboards. The box is labeled "Eve", but there's no clue to what its
>function is. There's an Eve init file in the system file also.

"Eve" is short for "Evil".

"Eve" is an abomination. Such devices shall never touch any Mac of mine, nor
any of those for which I am responsible.

Software publishers who use them are uninvited to make presentations here. As
far as I'm concerned, they do not publish any products.



It's a "dongle" - a hardware copy-protection device.

David Gutierrez
drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu

"Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: prastowo@cae.wisc.edu (Anton Prastowo)
Subject: Please Post IIvx Built-in Video Specs!
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 6 Nov 92 23:44:11 CST

If someone hasn't already posted specs for the IIvx built-in video,
please do!

I'd like to know the (if possible) different types of monitors
the IIvx might be able to drive with bit depth, colors etc.
Kinda like the Quadra Built-in video spec posted awhile ago...

Thanks.

prastowo@cae.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: tkwoo@acs.ucalgary.ca (Tom Kwong Woo)
Subject: How fast is the external monitor on the new Powerbooks???
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 06:27:45 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
Keywords: External monitor, Powerbook

Hi folks

I was wondering how fast an external monitor runs on the 
new Powerbooks (160/180).  More specifically, how fast is the video
on the apple 13" monitor or new 14" monitor?  Can you run quicktime
movies on it at a reasonable rate, and can fast paced arcade games
be played on the external monitor?

Tom Woo
 


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: farrell@mot.com (Tod Farrell)
Subject: NEC CD-rom CDR74
Organization: Motorola
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:12:32 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware

A follow up to the problem of trying to use a NEC CDR-74 with
the Mac IIfx:

Use the black "magical" SCSI terminator.  It works with that attached.

Tod Farrell
farrell@mot.com

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From: vernon@blueeyes.kines.uiuc.edu (vernon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Opinions on "Hitchhiker" portable drives?
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:09:21 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Originator: vernon@blueeyes.kines.uiuc.edu

I am considering purchasing a Mass Microsystems "Hitchhiker" portable hard
drive.  I would appreciate hearing of first-hand experience with these devices -
both good and bad!

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