From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: CBM Announces Price Cuts on A4000/A1200
Date: 23 Jan 1993 19:40:05 GMT
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In article <C1AJL4.M6F@starnine.com>, Mike Haas (mikeh@starnine.com) wrote:
: Like you said... you listen to too much...

I agree, but it's not Nine Inch Nails that I'm talking about, in this
case.

: It's all symbolism.  Try to find the substance.

The substance is that the capitolism we live under has made it so that
the dollar is more important than our lives.

: This is just false... hype dreamed up by the left to make American
: business appear evil.

Not quite.  Tell that to the damage that's been done.  Want a
radioactive glass of water?

: And yes, I worry about "eco-freaks" who can cause tremendous of amounts
: of valuable resources ($$$ and time) to be wasted on this
: "save the environment" fantasy.  I worry about placing undo restraints

I'm not talking about saving the planet, here.  I'm talking about
saving the lives of those who LIVE around these places.  Unless you
plan on building an island in the middle of nowhere to stick these
corporations' plants on, someone is going to live close enough for
these companies to do them harm.

: on companies like Rockwell, lessening thier profits, increasing the
: cost of goods and services, contributing to layoffs.  I worry very
: much about the liberal agenda.

I worry about people dying, and that's just about all, in this case.
Lessening their profits, heaven forbid.  Do you have _ANY_ idea what
this company has DONE to the surrounding area?  I don't mean killing a
few trees and spewing a few flourocarbons, damnit, this is a
purification plant making weapons-grade plutonium.  And they're
illegally dumping radioactive, toxic waste producs, amongst other
things.

Let them kill people, they're making money?  Now who's way off on the
other side of the spectrum?

: We couldn't destroy the environment if we tried.  One volcano
: spews more pollutants into the environments than all of industry
: ever has.

I've covered this.

: Rallied the world as never before in history and freed not only

Puppeted the UN as never before in history...

: Kuwait, but was the driving force in the stabilization of the
: Gulf and insurance of the free flow of oil.  Oversaw the

And I suppose being the puppetteer of the UN, it's our duty to clear
up any international problems and conflicts that ever happen.

: downfall of the Soviet Union, lifting that veil of nuclear
: destruction.

He was in office during the downfall, and he had as much to do with it
as the people in England and China did.  Oversaw.  He was in office,
if that's what you mean by "oversaw".

: No, he wasn't the most dynamic president, but didn't do too
: bad considering the uncooperative, confrontational Congress
: he had to work with.  And hardly a "do nothing" president.

As was once said, "Our president doesn't examine the internal affairs
of the countries in the New World Order.  Unfortunately, that includes
the US."

: Balderdash.  For the next 4 years, though, you will be privvy
: to some real expert pandering to special interest groups.

As if we weren't for the last 12.  I suppose that the Reagan/Bush
administration never even knew what a special interest group was?
These are professional politicians, and everyone knows that they're
pandering.  _ALL_ of them.  Clinton will be no different.

: Hillary HERSELF was cencored during the campaign!  Where the hell
: was she in the last 4 months?  That happened because of her
: stated anti-motherhood comments... she became a liability so
: they just kept her out of sight. As did all the far-left.
: Now they want their payback.

Ya.  Okay.  Talk your politics, but the fact is, many people agree.
Where is she now, by the way?  She's working on the US's medical cost
crisis.

: Better to have another Democrat whose main interest is
: looking for some "second pussy", eh?

I suppose, whatever.  I was at least talking about Bush, Clinton's
main opposition, and if you wish to bring up ancient history, that's
fine.  However, one of us has kept topic better than the other.
(Note, not the topic line, we're both way off.  :)

: The man is a liar... he and Gore.  The economy (as we now know)
: is not "the worst in 50 years".

You don't think so?  Perhaps the "prettiness" of the economy is just
what's apparent, and the numbers are worse than it appears.  Perhaps,
in including the economy, he's using the wisdom to include the state
of our debt, which is so much greater than originally documented by
Bush's team.  Again, Bush proves to be a real "class act".

: A media that was superglued to the left and the unconventional

The media has ALWYAS been democratically-biased, for as far back as I
can remember.  That didn't stop Bush from getting elected.

: antics of a 3 party race are the ONLY reasons Bill Clinton won.

Then lets hope we get a 3 party race more often.  And BTW, there
_WERE_ a whole lot more than three parties.  I was looking quite
closely at what the Libertarian party was doing.  I voted Perot in.
So narrowing it down to "three important people" is fine, but don't
think that those three are the only reason he lost.

Maybe he lost because America thought he wasn't the right one for the
job.

: He only took 40% of the popular vote and has no "charter" to
: do anything for the mainstream American.

He already has.  He's lifted the abortion "laws", and he's going to
allow homosexuality in the military.  As he said.  Getting rid of the
national debt _IS_ something for the mainstream American, and if you
can't see why, you're in need of some serious help.

Most importantly, maybe this'll mean the end of deficit spending.

: Yeah, I could tell.

I guess so.  This is, again, my opinion.

Greg

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