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                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:     05-Jan-1993 02:24pm CDT
                                        From:     Gayle L. Bibisi
                                                  GBIBISI
                                        Dept:     Grahics & Arts Printing
                                        Tel No:   528-5059

TO:  Remote NJE Network User              ( _JNET%PAGEMAKR@INDYCMS )


Subject: Quark List

Could anyone out there tell me how to subscribe to the Quark User List?
Thanks!
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 08:57:09 +0000
Reply-To:     Henry Budgett <henryb@SCO.COM>
From:         Henry Budgett <henryb@SCO.COM>
Subject:      TAN: mac invoicing program

In a recent mail, Diana Osborne said:

##I have a friend who needs to set up an invoicing program/
##database on the Mac.  I looked around and could not find
##ANY ready-made freestanding (i.e., not part of a whole
##accounting package) software to do this, and was going to
##work up something for him in FileMaker Pro, which can
##certainly work, but will take some time to set up.

Please - do your own in FileMaker! It's really simple and so much
more flexible than commercial stuff. I adapted one that I
originally wrote for Smart (a DOS integrated package) to
FileMaker in a couple of days and several small service bureau
now run with it. It is extensible, really easy to use and,
coupled with an Excel spreadsheet for tracking expenses, is all
you need. Now that both are available PC and Mac it's also truly
cross platform.

This is NOT an offer to provide the database - I'd then be
morally obligated to support it! However, if enough people are
interested I'd be prepared to explain how to set up an invoicing
and expense tracking system. Please note, this is a British thing
and, therefore, includes wierd taxes like VAT but I guess local
sales taxes also apply in the US so it should all make sense!

Email to me directly rather than waste bandwidth. If more than
ten express interest I'll work something up and post it.


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Henry Budgett, Technical Publications Architect, SCO Watford
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Reply-To:     Justin Ridge <justin@TASMAN.CC.UTAS.EDU.AU>
From:         Justin Ridge <justin@TASMAN.CC.UTAS.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re: PostScript for Times?

Thanks to everyone who replied to my Times PS question.

>I thought Fontographer allowed you to convert TT to PS fonts.

The older versions didn't (of course), but I just found that we have the
latest copy floating around.  So I can do it with no probs at all, with no
need for any of the other utilities.
The only thing is that some of the kerning goes askew but its no big deal.

JR

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Reply-To:     On the Tundra in West Michigan <YA57@FERRIS.BITNET>
From:         On the Tundra in West Michigan <YA57@FERRIS.BITNET>
Subject:      PostScript for Times?

For Justin, and anyone else looking for
Postscript fonts:

Try Trickle.  I found Ghostscript and a selection of associated
fonts in RPITSVM (used to be RPIECS).

Send a mail note to:  listserv@RPITSVM and include the line:

/pdget pd:<msdos.postscript>24times.zip

Don't worry that it's in the msdos subdirectory, it shouldn't
make a difference.  You will also need to UNZIP the file, and
I don't know if there is a PKUNZIP for Mac.  Can someone else
answer that??

The files come out on msdos as *.GSF, but look for all the world
like postscript coding.

Should work.

        --Bruce.

  Bruce Werner                BITNET:  YA57@FERRIS
  Big Rapids, Michigan  (We're BIG, we're just not GRAND)
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From:         On the Tundra in West Michigan <YA57@FERRIS.BITNET>
Subject:      Clip-art for PageMaker anyone?

Justin,

Since you have a Mac printer, I'll assume a Mac system (I'm
on an IBM PC).

There is a LOAD of .GIF format files available all over via
ftp.  If you have a graphics conversion program, they can be
then translated into a format PM can use.  On another front,
there are a lot of *.PS files around that are "sort of"
EPS, that can be imported into graphics programs and handled
the same as EPS.  I've translated some using Arts & Letters
Decipher, and Ghostscript for PC (inputs postscript files
and prints or translates them).

There are bound to be plenty of other suggestions, too!

Good luck.

        --Bruce.

  Bruce Werner                BITNET:  YA57@FERRIS
  Big Rapids, Michigan  (We're BIG, we're just not GRAND)
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:42:19 EST
Reply-To:     LPEN000 <LPEN@NLU.BITNET>
From:         LPEN000 <LPEN@NLU.BITNET>
Subject:      FERN- Calendar help

DEAR Pagemaker Friends:

Fern was helping me with my calendar and I inadvertently wiped her
address off the screen.  Sorry to bother you......................

Fern-

I used the circle tool in the toolbox to make the circles.  The line
under element is hairline.  I made sure the circles were brought up
to the front.  And, produced another circle just outside the calendar,
larger, and it did not print.  What IS printing:   little straight lines
where the circles are supposed to be.  Do you think this is a printer
driver problem?

(Help from anyone on the LIST is welcome................)

Thanks.

Linda

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Linda Pennington                    Evanston       Tampa
Editor/Writer                       Chicago        McLean, VA
Academic Affairs                    Lombard        Milwaukee
National-Louis University           Elgin, IL      Beloit, WI
Lombard, Illinois                   St. Louis      Heidelberg, Germany
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 10:30:00 EST
Reply-To:     "Jeffrey L. Needleman" <needje@MSEN.COM>
From:         "Jeffrey L. Needleman" <needje@MSEN.COM>
Subject:      PostScript for Times? (A)

Justin Ridge asks how to get a postscript version of Times.

Justin, when Adobe Type Manager was first produced, it was sold bundled
with postscript printer outline fonts for Times, Symbol, Courier, and
Helvetica. Adobe also sells the font as part of its Plus Pack, which
includes all the fonts in the old LaserWriter Plus for the Mac (around
$100). A request to Adobe might bring you the Times postscript font for a
decent price, since it was originally part of the ATM package.

A better approach might be simply to use a font utility such as FontMonger
(from Ares), Metamorphosis Pro, or Fontographer to convert the
readily-available TT font to Postscript Type One. FontMonger is probably
the most inexpensive way to go (although I hate its upgrade pricing--the
original program cost me $69 and I'm asked for $50 plus shipping for the
latest upgrade--no way!). With this approach, you can use the many other
features of the programs as well on many fonts. FontMonger has both Windows
and Mac versions.  TTConverter (shareware, $10) or WRefont (shareware, $20)
can convert TT-Windows to and fro TT-Mac. WRefont also can convert
postscript directly from Mac to Windows, but not vice versa (it can't
construct the bitmaps the Mac needs).
Jeff Needleman  <needje@msen.com>
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 08:43:27 +0000
Reply-To:     Fran Holtsberry <fran_holtsberry@MACGATE.CSUCHICO.EDU>
From:         Fran Holtsberry <fran_holtsberry@MACGATE.CSUCHICO.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Help! I can't get big type for heads

Amy,

First, I hope you are only trying 36 point type, not 36 pica. PageMaker won't
allow anything beyond about 124 point.

Which printer are you using. Non-Postscript printers will not produce type
above 24 point, unless you are using a special type application (cartridge or
software) for that purpose.

Fran
Fran_holtsberry@macgate.csuchico.edu

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To: Multiple recipients of list PAGEMAKR
From: AMY CHARLES on Mon, Jan 4, 1993 11:00 PM
Subject: Help! I can't get big type for heads

I'm using PM for IBM, and I can't get big letters to come out of the big
cursor when I size type to, say, 36 picas.  Nor can I enlarge the type later.
Here are the steps I've taken:  create text box, set type size and style, and
go.  Yes, there's enough room for large type, but no dice.  I've also tried
importing big type from Windows Draw as a TIFF, but it still transfers small
and unstretchable.  What's the problem?  (Screen fonts are fine, incidentally,
in Windows Draw; no problem getting great big type there.)  Any clues?
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From: dmandl@shearson.com (David Mandl)
Subject: Re:      Quark List
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Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:09:04 GMT

In article 93010515272440@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU,         GBIBISI@UTMEM2.BITNET () writes:
>Could anyone out there tell me how to subscribe to the Quark User List?
>Thanks!


Me too.


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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:35:14 GMT
Reply-To:     pm@LEMOORE.ATI.COM
From:         pm@LEMOORE.ATI.COM
Subject:      Re: Clip-art for PageMaker anyone?

> In short, my question is:
> Does anyone know if there is any GOOD clip-art available on the Internet?
> (I define 'good' as either 300 dpi or EPS files).
>
I am very much interested in the same thing and would love any information
out there!

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*  Kevin Kurtz                           *  Pam Kurtz               *
*  Lemoore Elementary School *  Pamela@lemoore.ati.com  *
*  Kevin@lemoore.ati.com     *                          *
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From: fran_holtsberry@MACGATE.CSUCHICO.EDU (Fran Holtsberry)
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Subject: RE: Sizing down... a little more info
Date: 4 Jan 93 11:25:05 GMT
Reply-To: Fran Holtsberry <fran_holtsberry@MACGATE.CSUCHICO.EDU>
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Scaling appears in both the Apple print menu and the Aldus print menu.
Change scaling to something less than 100%

Fran Holtsberry
Fran_holtsberry@macgate.csuchico.edu

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From: SC Mgr on Sun, Dec 27, 1992 10:38 PM
Subject: Sizing down... a little more info

I am running Pagemaker 4.2 on the Mac.  I am printing to (don't hold
me to it) a TI Microlaser... not sure of the model.

I tried to go under page setup where I have seen xx% reduction (not
sure if I saw it on Pagemaker before, though).  I do not get this
option when I go under page setup on Pagemaker now.  Could this be
due to the TI not being a postscript printer?

The reason I do not know the model of the TI is that our normal
postscript printers recently died and the TI took its place
(temporary, I hope)...  therefore, I do not know if it is/not a PS
printer.
____
Greg
scmgr@cabell.vcu.edu

PS.  Good night!!!  (1:40am... ZZZZZzzzzzzzz)
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From:         "SO MUCH E-MAIL, SO LITTLE TIME" <STONEC@IUBACS.BITNET>
Subject: RE: SOS larger text....

From:   PO%"LPEN@NLU.BITNET"  7-JAN-1993 16:54:42.91
To:     STONEC
CC:
Subj:   S.O.S. TEXT PROBLEM!

Linda Pennington writes:

I'm still new at DTP.  I need to bring in larger text and pull it over
the text on the page.  I want to pull the other text away from the
larger text, so I have an eyecatcher text centered on my page.  Can
someone answer immediately?  Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.........

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Linda Pennington                    Evanston       Tampa
Editor/Writer                       Chicago        McLean, VA
Academic Affairs                    Lombard        Milwaukee
National-Louis University           Elgin, IL      Beloit, WI
Lombard, Illinois                   St. Louis      Heidelberg, Germany
                                    Atlanta        Nowy Sacz, Poland
LPEN@NLU.BITNET                     ************************************
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-----------------
Linda:  is the text larger as in more words than what you have on the page?  Or
is it larger in point size (that's the height & width of your letters)?

It kind of sounds like you want a pull-quote with some larger sized text in the
middle and you want the smaller sized body text all around it?  Is this right?

If so, draw a box using the PM box tool, out on your pasteboard.  Now with the
handles showing, go to the element menu, and select text wrap.  Pick the middle
one of the three in the top row.  and in the bottom row, you probably want the
one on all four sides.  Click on okay.

Now you have a text wrap on the box.  Go type (or copy using clipboard) your
words to the pasteboard.  Using the text tool, highlight the words, pick the
type specs you want, and then get your pointer tool.  Move the words into the
middle of the box that has the wrap.  WARNING!  ALL FOUR HANDLES OF THE TEXT
BLOCK MUST FALL INSIDE THE TEXT WRAP OR THE WORDS WILL HOP OUT.  If this
happens you should:  a.  resize the text block  b. resize the type size or
c.  make the box larger.

If this is what you wanted to know I"m glad.  If it isn't, send me more info.
BTW, I don't mean to criticize any new DTP, but if you're doing DTP work, and
you haven 't learned how to do a text wrap yet, you need some training ASAP
before you go any further.  Tell your boss no more PageMakr work will be done
until you've got at leat 10-20 hours of training under your belt.  PM is not
something easy like word-processing, it requires more knowledge of the program
and the field of publishing or you will not be happy or successful in your
endeavors.

good luck -- Cindy Stone, PM LIstserv co=owner
and PC PageMakr and Mac PageMakr Instructor
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:51:00 EST
Reply-To:     Diana Osborne <OSBORNE@UNC.BITNET>
From:         Diana Osborne <OSBORNE@UNC.BITNET>
Subject:      TAN: mac invoicing program

I have a friend who needs to set up an invoicing program/
database on the Mac.  I looked around and could not find
ANY ready-made freestanding (i.e., not part of a whole
accounting package) software to do this, and was going to
work up something for him in FileMaker Pro, which can
certainly work, but will take some time to set up.  I
seem to recall seeing an ad about 6 weeks ago for a piece
of software for the Mac that did precisely what I needed-
keep track of clients, orders, and invoicing, nothing out
of the ordinary.  It was called U-Invoice or something
odd like that, and I honestly am wondering if I hallucinated
the whole thing, since it was on TV, and I don't know that
I've ever seen Macintosh software advertised on the idiot
box.  Any help would be greatly appreciated- please reply
off-list as I doubt this is of general interest.
Thanks in advance- Diana Osborne
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:38:01 -0800
Reply-To:     "Darryl G. Hosford" <dhosfor@EIS.CALSTATE.EDU>
From:         "Darryl G. Hosford" <dhosfor@EIS.CALSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: PageMaker 5.0 Mac demo available!

On Mon, 11 Jan 1993, Jeffrey L. Needleman wrote:

> Tonight's info-mac reports that a demo for PageMaker 5.0 has been posted at
> sumex-aim.stanford.edu, available for anonymous ftp as:
>
> /info-mac/demo/pagemaker-50.hqx
>
> To run this demonstration, you'll need a color Macintosh, System 6.0.7
> or later (runs under System 7), a hard drive, a high-density floppy disk
> drive, and at least 4MB of RAM (5MB under System 7). The demo is 1140k.
>
> Enjoy.
> Jeff Needleman  <needje@msen.com>


Hello All,

Has any one heard of a PC MageMaker 5.0 trial?  I would be interested.

Darryl
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From: schonert@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Juanita Schonert)
Subject: WinPrinter 800 for sale
Keywords: PRINTER POSTSCRIPT LASER
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 21:56:03 GMT


NEW WinPrinter 800 for sale. Unopened and has full warranty.
800 dpi printing, Full postscript compatibility, 50 fonts

Fast Windows printing with high resolution
$1195.00 
 
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 09:17:23 EDT
Reply-To:     Jarmila Pankova <PANKOVA@CSPGAS11.BITNET>
From:         Jarmila Pankova <PANKOVA@CSPGAS11.BITNET>
Subject:      PM 5.0 for PC

Hi folks,
           I have to tell you something:
Yesterday I went to one firm, that is also Aldus' dealer and they told me
that they are going to sell PM 5.0 for PC within 14 days...
                       Isn't that special?

Unforunately we don't have money again (like every other beginning of the year)
so I can only dream about upgrade 8-(
                                                   Jaja from Czech Republic
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From:         Michael Ross <antigone!mross@NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Quark List

To subscribe to QUARKXPR@IUBVM.BITNET send mail to
listserv@IUBVM.BITNET which says:
sub QUARKXPR Your name
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:12:05 +1000
Reply-To:     Justin Ridge <justin@TASMAN.CC.UTAS.EDU.AU>
From:         Justin Ridge <justin@TASMAN.CC.UTAS.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Clip-art for PageMaker anyone?

Hi folks.
With the start of the school year approaching here in Oz, I am looking to
replace our old clip-art stocks.  We mainly have old 72 dpi MacPaint
pictures, which are of course no longer relevant in this day & age.

In short, my question is:
Does anyone know if there is any GOOD clip-art available on the Internet?
(I define 'good' as either 300 dpi or EPS files).

I've seen this question asked before, so there should be quite a few people
who must have the answer fresh in their minds!

Many thanks,
Justin Ridge.

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Reply-To:     On the Tundra in West Michigan <YA57@FERRIS.BITNET>
From:         On the Tundra in West Michigan <YA57@FERRIS.BITNET>
Subject:      PostScript for Times? (A)

Umm...

Ignorance alert...

Is the Adobe Type 1 font the same as the Postscript??

If yes, then there are many versions of Times available
via ftp.

Bruce.
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Date: Monday, 4 Jan 1993 12:20:58 CST
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Subject: Re: Laswell
 <92365.150613U19807@uicvm.uic.edu> <1992Dec31.220556.22068@cs.com>

In article <1992Dec31.220556.22068@cs.com>, larry@cs.com (Larry Spence) says:

>There's stuff on the first Last Exit album (_IP_ is easier to find, but
>a little wimpy in comparison IMHO -- they recorded all their parts indepen-
>dently of each other as overdubs, yuck)

Hmmmm....I didn't know about that,although it's pretty obvious that there are
a _lot_ of overdubs (how could Brotzmann record "Eye for an Eye" otherwise?).
I wasn't aware that all the parts were recorded independently,though...Sharrock
does seem a bit less involved than he usually is on most projects.

Weirdly enough,I actually ran into LE's other CDs (THE NOISE OF TROUBLE,etc.)
_before_ I was able to snag a (used) copy of _IP_.

>_Memory Serves_ is incredible (guests like Fred Frith,
>Olu Dara, etc.), but occasionally marred by vocals.

Yeech. You can say that again. Whoever was singing (I have the CD credits,but
I can't remember the vocalist's name) definitely sounded like someone was
passing out free quaalude samples at the studio that day.

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