From: mikeh@starnine.com (Mike Haas)
Subject: Re: Amiga No OS?
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 04:19:34 GMT
Organization: StarNine Technologies, Inc.

In article <1992Sep5.152754.23866@ra.msstate.edu> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
>In article <Bu32Lo.1qq@starnine.com> mikeh@starnine.com (Mike Haas) writes:
>>In article <torrie.714898303@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie) writes:
>>>DonD@cup.portal.com (Don Robert DeCosta) writes:
>>>
>>>>You know, if you had spent money on an IBM or Mac in 1986 instead of an Amiga
>>>>you couldn't even buy a stupid shoot em up game for your computer.
>>>
>>>>	"1 meg Required"                  (Can't cram a Meg into that 1986
>>>>					   Fat Mac)
>>>
>>>  The Mac Plus was released in January 1986, and has no problems holding
>>>4MB of memory.
>>
>>But he didn't say "MacPlus".  The poster correctly said "Fat Mac".
>>There was no way to ghhet more than 512K out of those things.
>>
>>It was a frustrating time for Mac owners.  Those exasperated by their
>>128K abortions bought the Fat Mac upgrade.  Then Apple brought out
>>the Mac Plus (no upgrade from either of the 2 earlier machines) so
>>everyone clamored to buy the latest & greatest (and we remember what
>>those cutesy little things cost, eh?).
>
>Funny, I worked at an Apple dealer and we performed several upgrades
>from the earliest Macs to the Mac Plus level.  There were a few 
>different levels of upgrade, including the Plus motherboard, the 800k
>drives, keyboard, etc.  It wasn't cheap, but it was available

Ah, yes.  You jogged the memory.  You could upgrade a fat mac to a plus
for damn near the cost of a plus.  But it wansn't a "real" plus was it...
didn't it have different connectors & other subtle differences.  But
to get back to the point, afterwards you COULD put up to 4 Meg on it.

>
>>THEN... out came the SE and the MacII, and again, no way to upgrade
>>the Mac Plus to either.  Talk about abandoning their customers!
>>And the SE was such a lame improvement over the MacPlus!  Still,
>>many plunked down ANOTHER couple thou...
>
>The Plus was still sold for quite some time after the introduction of
>the SE.  I'd bet that you'd have an easier time getting a Plus serviced 
>than you would an A1000.  As for the SE being a lame improvement over
>the Mac Plus, believe me that many A1000 owners felt the same way about
>the A500 and A2000...

Naw.  It was widely acknowledged that the 500 gave a much smaller
footprint, while still providing about the same level of expandability.
Also, the 500 was alot cheaper than the 1000.  (The SE cost more...
and for WHAT?)

The 2000, conversely, gave a much larger footprint, the benefit being
many slots for expansion ('course, the SE had the same toy case as the
plus, but painted WHITE...expensive paint?).

The 500 offered significant movement from the 1000... in both
directions.  The SE offered...  <silence>

>
>>>Evan.  (who now has to bow down to Redmond's direction every morning
>>>because Bill is paying for my office).
>>
>>Then tell him to f**k off.
>
>Who pissed in your cornflakes?  I'm no fan of Microsoft due to the fact 
>that I have to live use their program launcher for software development,
>but I wish old Bill's company supported the Amiga.

They DID!  Remember AmigaBasic?  (forget AmigaBasic?)

>
>>>Embrace rationalism, reject superstition.           Break away from the past.
>>
>>Exactly.  Put the Mac in the BIG "Trashcan"... the one outside in the alley.
>
>If the news from the WOC is not world-shaking, many will be saying the
>same thing about the Amiga.

Many men tried, many men died...

We'll see, eh?
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