From: jks2x@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jason K. Schechner)
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up! Press Reports It!
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 00:42:44 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.145259.11010@anasazi.com> best@anasazi.com (Mike Best) writes:

>Putting aside the fact that your knowledge of Quayle is limited to
>stand-up comics and television news bites, I would agree to some extent
>that Quayle has made some incongruous/conflicting statements.  I think
>the fact that he does so in the same breath is what you find so funny.
>What I find so disturbing is that people such as Al Gore do it in a 
>more verbose manner which tends to give people such as yourself the
>"deer frozen by headlights"-syndrome.  Take, for example, Gore's book
>EITB. 
>
>o  He believes population growth for others while he simultaneously 
>   extolls the virtues his own large family (page 307).
>
>o  He admits that he is a Washington insider who has been trained to
>   customize his views to what he believes the people want to hear
>   (page 9, 13, 15)

	Please excuse the cynicism, but how else do you expect a politician
to get elected nowadays?  I was heavily involved in a city council
election several years ago because my mother was one of the
candidates.  She lost because she told the truth.  The guy who beat
her was in the pocket of the builders in the area and now people have
told me how much of a mistake it was electing him and his buddies (who
also have nicely lined pockets in which to live).  NO politician says
exactly the same thing to every group s/he speaks to.  There is a
huge difference to changing the angle on something and doing a 180
turn on something (ie: abortion. hint, hint.)

>o  He equates the Holocaust with the failure to recycle aluminum.
>   (page 177-178, 275).

	Pardon me, but have you ever heard of an _analogy_?  He isn't
saying "If you don't recycle Al. all the Jews will die".  Good grief
I think you're taking the man a bit to literally.  What he may well be
saying, though, is that if we don't recycle at all we ALL will die.
(and don't give me any of this "we all die eventually" crap, I know
that) I'm talking about the extinction of all higher life forms from
this planet.

>
>o  He is a Luddite, he believes that technology is evil and that 
>   we should get rid of automobiles (page 206, 318)

	In the ideal sense, yes he believes that getting rid of cars
would help cure out trashing of the environment.  However, I'm sure he
is fully aware of the fact that this is not feasible in the 20th
century.  Be realistic here people.

>The list goes on.  If Quayle had stated these things we would certainly
>be exposed to more gratuitous bashing that has left most of us numb
>to the intended effects (to hate Quayle).

	ANYONE who made the comments as your did would "be exposed to
more gratuitous bashing", I have no doubt.  However, Gore said these
things in the context of the BEST way to help repair what we've done
to the Earth.  I'm sure that even you "BIG BUSINESS ALL THE WAY"
conservatives will agree that the BEST (not most realistic or more
possible) way to clean up the environment is to stop using poluting
machines.  See above.

>I STILL can't get over the fact that you appear to be a Democrat/Statist
>(as in Government is the point from which solutions to problems derive)
>and yet you are the namesake of the Brittan, John Locke, who is one 
>of the Enlightenment's greatest thinkers.  His philosophies of individual
>rights etc. are one of the primary foundations of our government and
>are nearly totally in contrast to the concept of big government and 
>group rights (Dems).

	Hold on a second.  Who is it that wants to limit a woman's
right to her own body?  Who is it that put a clamp on the mouths of
clinic employees?  Who is it that wants so badly to stop people from using
drugs that they declared "war" on drugs?  Most drug use is a
victimless, harmless activity.  If someone wants to get high in his
house - FINE!  Just don't get on the road and drive.  Do what you
want to yourself, just don't hurt anyone else.

>
>I'll try to get over it.

	You've got a long way to go.

>Mike Best {mcdphx|asuvax}!anasaz!best
>"Sex and Gore in 92" - bumper stickers we'd like to see


-Jason
-- 
"Make up your stories, the truth's so hard to say.
 Brain is numb, and your tounge, will surely dig your grave." 
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