HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us (Michael B. Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: GRn and Autopoint (was Re: Postings to a.s.a.u.patches...)
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (beta) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 6 Sep 92 23:55:41 EDT
Organization: Private UUCP Node

In article <Boinger.02sw@myamy.hacktic.nl> Boinger@myamy.hacktic.nl (Paul Kolenbrander) writes:
> Goodie. :-) I'll keep an eye on a.s.a.u.patches. Did you solve that nasty
> window/requester activation problem?

Are you referring to this report?

    When I startup GRn, it opens it's little requester with the fuelgauge
    showing it's progress. When the mousepointer is not over this little
    requester, GRn alternates between making active it's main window and
    the requester window. This results in an irritatingly slow process.
    When I position the pointer over the requester window, this annoying
    behaviour stops and progress speed is multiplied by at least a factor
    of 20. Similar behaviour occurs when any other requester is spawned
    by GRn and the pointer is not over that requester. Is there anything
    you can do about this?

(aren't Snap and DME wonderful?)

GRn requires that if either its primary window or a child of that window
is to be active, it must be the youngest child (1.16f introduces a rather
more general purpose implementation of this concept than previously --
there are grandchildren in some places).

Now, 1.16e became more careful about it than previous releases. GRn used
to require that the youngest child window be the active window on that
screen -- period. That was relaxed, and properly so, on 1.16e.

Now, all of this may be a moot point, as the design was made to ensure that
gadtools events didn't get queued, due to some problems that we have
experienced with gadtools.library. Peter Cherna and I have a thread going
on in c.s.a.programmer regarding this. If he can help me find something
I've done wrong, this restriction can be removed.

Until then, I don't think that it can be any further relaxed.

There are also AutoPoint commodities out there that are smart enough
for this to not be a problem (how, I don't know). But I've had several
people e-mail me and tell me that a "later version" of a utility
either cured or minimized the problem.

> > Sure there is. lha-1.00 for Unix is available from a variety of places.
> > Look at grind.isca.uiowa.edu in unix/arc and at ux1.cso.uiuc.edu in
> > unix/arc.
>
> Hmm. I don't use Unix, but a friend (who does my FTP posting) does, and he
> told me he couldn't find one. I'll forward this info to him. Thanks...

He isn't looking in the right place.    :)
--
  //   Michael B. Smith
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From: bobl@bobsbox.rent.com (Bob Lindabury - SysAdmin)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Re: TrimNews for 2.04 and beyond...
Date: 13 Sep 92 18:18:31 GMT
Organization: Raven Enterprises -- Piscataway, NJ USA
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <mbs.0zqs@adastra.cvl.va.us> mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us (Michael B. Smith) writes:
> Some people have completed of problems with "trimnews" on 2.04 and beyond
> not properly deleting files (i.e., the infamous ExNext() problem) and causing
> their UUNEWS: partitions to become corrupted.
>
> I've rewritten trimnews so that on V37+, it uses ExAll() instead. It should
> still work on 1.3, but I've no way to test that. It should correct the problems
> caused by using ExNext().
>
> I've been running it here at adastra for 4 days now.
>
> If there is sufficient interest (i.e., 3 or more people :)) I'll post it to
> a.s.a.uucp.patches. Let me know.

Please, please, PLEASE post the new Trimnews.  I am so tired of having
to fix the checksum errors on my news drive because of the current
trimnews...argh!  Oh, any chance that this Trimnews does it's trimming
by hours instead of 24 hour increments..sort of like an expire?

--
 Bob Lindabury

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From: Boinger@myamy.hacktic.nl (Paul Kolenbrander)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Re: Postings to a.s.a.u.patches (was Re: NoCFM ...)
Date: 5 Sep 92 16:28:28 MET
Reply-To: boinger@myamy.hacktic.nl (Paul Kolenbrander)
Distribution: world
Organization: System Information 2.0 Development
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <mbs.0xzz@adastra.cvl.va.us> mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us (Michael B. Smith) writes:
> In article <Boinger.02rl@myamy.hacktic.nl> Boinger@myamy.hacktic.nl (Paul Kolenbrander) writes:
> > might to name all new features. [HINT, HINT :-)]
> 
> 1.16f has about 15K in CHANGES from 1.16e. As I just got blasted for posting
> something smaller than that in c.s.a.programmer, I was considering just saying
> "here it is! go for it!". (RSN -- I'm up to just the documentation to update,
> and my latest beta testers haven't had a word to say...)

Goodie. :-) I'll keep an eye on a.s.a.u.patches. Did you solve that nasty
window/requester activation problem?

> > there is no LHA compatible de-archiver on the UN*X platform. Please
> Sure there is. lha-1.00 for Unix is available from a variety of places.
> Look at grind.isca.uiowa.edu in unix/arc and at ux1.cso.uiuc.edu in
> unix/arc.

Hmm. I don't use Unix, but a friend (who does my FTP posting) does, and he
told me he couldn't find one. I'll forward this info to him. Thanks... 

> > Archive Header for a.s.a.u.p
> >
> > 1. Program      : (Name, version, date information)
> > 2. Purpose      : (A short description of what the program does)
> > 3. Requirements : (What does the program need? 2.04, 68030 etc.)
> > 4. Archiver used: (LHA, ZOO, ARC PAK etc.)
> > 5. Contents list: (List of files in the archive)
> 
> As the first two lines of the article, should be:
> 
>     Archive-Name: <filename>/partxx
>     Submitted-By: <e-mail address>

Done. I will use that together with my points in my next postings.

CYa, Paul

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Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
From: mortene@Lise.Unit.NO (Morten Eriksen)
Subject: Eurochart #16
Organization: Norwegian Institue of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 12:40:31 GMT

Could the guy who uploaded Eurochart #16 to wuarchive.wustl.edu please upload
tracks 0-40 again, as the archive seems to be corrupt.

Morten
Xref: sparky alt.sys.amiga.demos:1130 comp.sys.amiga.audio:3366
From: emackey@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU (Ed Mackey [910828])
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos,comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: U4ia RELEIF FUND. WE'RE LOOKING FOR A FEW GOOD SUPPORTERS
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:31:25 GMT
Reply-To: /dev/null
Followup-To: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Organization: huh?

In article <1992Sep7.125857.880@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au> s892031@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Pumpkin Power) writes:
>slbfn@cc.usu.edu writes:
>>   Do you like U4ia MODs?
>>   Have you impressed many I*M, or M*C owners with them?
>>   Would you like to see more of them?
>>   Would you like to keep one of the greatest Amiga assets of all time?
>> 
>>   How many modules has U4ia released _free_of_charge_ for
>>   everyones music pleasure?
>
>ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
>
>The news has been FULL of these posts for 2 weeks now.  Would you send
>Azatoth or Celebrandil cash if they suddenly blew their power supplies and
>had to stop coding?  Would you send Uno money if he burnt his copy of DPaint
>and needed to replace it?  Every time you see some other PD/Demo author
>say they've broken their hardware are you going to help them replce it?

Absolutely not!!  We have enough free stuff already.  If those PD/shareware
authors format their software and toast their hardware, it's their own
fault.  I don't know why we should even consider sending them money, when
they admit in the DOCs of everything they write that they're writing it
for free!

And besides, if we DO send them money, what would they do with it?
No doubt they would go buy more hardware and start writing even more
free stuff.  What a waste!  Don't they know we are all very happy with
our commercial word processors that cost $599 apiece??  We didn't
ask them to write all those programs and MODs that keep clogging
all our FTP sites!

The way I see it, if we all make an effort to STOP sending money to
PD beggars on the net, then their funds will eventually run dry.
Then they will be forced to stop uploading this crap and get real jobs.
Our FTP sites will become squeaky-clean finally, and better yet,
we won't have to put up with programs like ProTracker or MED when
we could shell out real money for real programs like Sonix that are
much better because there are far less "options" and controls to
confuse the user.

All we have to do is restrain ourselves from sending money to these
people.  Take EdPlayer 2.0 users, for instance.  They set a fine
example.
                                --Ed.
--
Ed Mackey
flames > /dev/null
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
From: cadwallader@forty2.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Looking for great new demos!
Reply-To: cadwallader@forty2.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 10:17:08 GMT


Hi,

	I have recently upgraded 1.3 -> 2.04 and consequently 90% of my
favourite demos broke. :-( Can anyone recommend excellent recent demos
which are 2.04/2Mb CHIP compatible? As a guide, about the last things
I saw under 1.3 were `Total Destruction', `Substance' (works under 2.0)
etc...

	E-mail or replies appreciated before 25th Sept, I won't be 
contactable after that date:

	Cheers.

								- JIM CAD*
Organization: Middle East Technical University - Computer Center
Date: Friday, 11 Sep 1992 10:43:08 TUR
From: <E66821@TRMETU.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Re: U4ia RELEIF FUND. WE'RE LOOKING FOR A FEW GOOD SUPPORTERS
 <1992Sep5.155718.58659@cc.usu.edu> <1992Sep5.160219.58662@cc.usu.edu>
 <1992Sep7.125857.880@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au> <2019@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU>

In article <2019@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU>, emackey@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU (Ed
Mackey [910828]) says:
>
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>
>Absolutely not!!  We have enough free stuff already.  If those PD/shareware
>authors format their software and toast their hardware, it's their own
>fault.  I don't know why we should even consider sending them money, when
>they admit in the DOCs of everything they write that they're writing it
>for free!
>
    If they write that it is free then why do you think that you have to
    send money? And it depends on people; If a PD software impresses me
    much I consider to give something in return .. This has not to be money...


>And besides, if we DO send them money, what would they do with it?
>No doubt they would go buy more hardware and start writing even more

    What is wrong with that? What do you think that commercial companies
    are doing with the trmendous amount of money which they gain..?
    They do more than buying hardware. They simply become rich..

>free stuff.  What a waste!  Don't they know we are all very happy with
>our commercial word processors that cost $599 apiece??  We didn't
>ask them to write all those programs and MODs that keep clogging
>all our FTP sites!
     ^^^
    Which FTP site do you own? If there is a one; then install a readme file
    such as 'No fuckin' demos or modules or PD soft' and let the webs shit
    on its tapes.. what FTP sites stands for?

>
>The way I see it, if we all make an effort to STOP sending money to
>PD beggars on the net, then their funds will eventually run dry.

    They are not beggars. What is it that deranges you about their funds?
    There is not a Shareware programmer in the univers who gain billions
    from their works.


>Then they will be forced to stop uploading this crap and get real jobs.
>Our FTP sites will become squeaky-clean finally, and better yet,
>we won't have to put up with programs like ProTracker or MED when
>we could shell out real money for real programs like Sonix that are
>much better because there are far less "options" and controls to
>confuse the user.

>All we have to do is restrain ourselves from sending money to these
>people.  Take EdPlayer 2.0 users, for instance.  They set a fine
>example.
>                                --Ed.
>--
>Ed Mackey
>flames > /dev/null

 Alp K. Tasdemir..
From: slbfn@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: U4ia RELEIF FUND.   WE'RE LOOKING FOR A FEW GOOD SUPPORTERS
Date: 5 Sep 92 16:02:19 MDT
X-From: slbfn@cc.usu.edu
X-Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
Followup-To: alt.sys.amiga.demos,comp.sys.amiga.audio

X-Date: 5 Sep 92 15:57:18 MDT
X-Organization: Utah State University

   Do you like U4ia MODs?
   Have you impressed many I*M, or M*C owners with them?
   Would you like to see more of them?
   Would you like to keep one of the greatest Amiga assets of all time?
 
   How many modules has U4ia released _free_of_charge_ for
   everyones music pleasure?
 
   How often do you _personally_ listen to U4ia modules?
 
   The questions above can only (and should only) be answerd by you.
   Your music tastes are personal.
                                                                   
   However, if you answered possitively to any question above, we need you.
 
   Many of you have seen the article by U4ia.  For those of you who haven't,
   he is in need of your assistance.  Quite a while back, the old 1.2 
   Kickstart Amiga 500 that belongs to U4ia of Megawatts exploded, creating a
   huge nuclear blasts sending peices of Amiga motherboard accross the room.
   Ok, Ok, so that is an exageration.  Anyways, down to the point.
 
   U4ia NO LONGER HAS AN AMIGA!
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
   "What does this mean?" I hear people wispering behind their monitors.
   Well, it means that NO U4ia modules will ever be released...  unless
   we can scrounge up one!
 
   I have worked quite closely with Jim Young (U4ia) to set up the
   "U4ia RELEIF FUND"  This is a fund, hosted by myself and Jim, for
   people using U.S. currency to donate a simple dollar.  Just mail it to:

                        U4ia RELEIF FUND
                        1303 N.  400 E.  #5A
                        Logan, UT
                        84321
 
  Of course, larger funds will be accepted.  (I've donated a healthy $20...)
  All contributions will then be placed into the fund, and you will be
  e-mailed a thank you note, from me and probably from Jim as well.  So please
  include your e-mail address as well as your name and the dollar.
  
  After a sizable amount of money is collected ( ~ $200.00 ) the money will be
  cashed into an international money order and send to Jim himself.  Keep in
  mind that this fund is for U.S. currency only.  # sterling can be send to
  Jim personally.  It is just easier for American U4ia fans to send it to
  a fund.  It's hard to get an Internation M.O for less that a dollar.  :)

  So, please help him.  You've used his product for a while, now he needs you
  financial assistance.  Thank you for your support.  (Not to sound like a 
  beer commercial or something...)

  By the way, if you get two of these posts, one complete and one not, I'm
  sorry.  I accidently hit the ctrl-z.

  Thanks again,

   	Travis Carter
	slbfn@cc.usu.edu

        (and I am sure that Jim, er ah.. U4ia of Megawatts thanks you, too.)

Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
From: gothic@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Toby Sargeant)
Subject: Re: why demos?
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 22:59:13 GMT

	well, in reply, do you listen to music? do you enjoy art? or
poetry? - For me at least, it is one and the same. Yes I agree that some
may see it as a juvenile and/or wasteful use of time (I have been told
as much many times), but I still see it as a form of art, and then
pursue it for the same reasons that one would write, compose, or paint.
To be creative, and to share creativity. This may sound rather stupid,
but what other reason could there be? I'm not interested in showing off
or anything similar....

	Hope that answers something...

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Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos,comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: Brendan.Jones@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Mr Spaceman)
Subject: Re: U4ia RELEIF FUND. WE'RE LOOKING FOR A FEW GOOD SUPPORTERS
Organization: Computing Services Centre, Victoria Uni. of Wellington, NZ.
	<1992Sep7.154531.5412@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
	<1992Sep8.061034.29505@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au>
	<1992Sep8.111407.10191@bristol.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:02:34 GMT


Yo.. hey, just cool it the both of you. U4IA, you seemed to have missed the
point of what he was saying, which I happen to see merit in.
I don't mind you asking for money either, and if I had any then I might
consider it, but as I don't, it's a moot point, rather like this whole
thread... now can we get back to pointless demo discussions ?

brendan

--
" On her television, on her mamma's radio, she could paint a picture more 
  alive than all she ought to know. Her imagination running wild, she let it 
  grow. In her imagination. "  -   Jack Hues

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Xref: sparky alt.sys.amiga.demos:1137 comp.sys.amiga.audio:3383
From: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Rockerboy)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos,comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: U4ia RELEIF FUND. WE'RE LOOKING FOR A FEW GOOD SUPPORTERS
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 08:58:34 EDT
Reply-To: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us
Organization: The Veronica Lake Fan Club

emackey@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU (Ed Mackey [910828]) writes:

> All we have to do is restrain ourselves from sending money to these
> people.  Take EdPlayer 2.0 users, for instance.  They set a fine
> example.
>                                 --Ed.
> --
> Ed Mackey
> flames > /dev/null

Yarg!  Ed, a little sarcastic today?  ;)

I agree with you, though.  I think U4ia has every right to be annoyed that
some people with nothin better to do decided to blast him for his
contribution requests.  Hey, he has every right to ask, and truth to tell,
if I had any money, I'd have sent him a few bucks.  (Being unemployed for
months makes that kinda hard, though...)  You people bitching and moaning
need to learn to mind your own business...ya know, like grown ups do?

 


"Sometimes what you say is going to fly right in the faces of the 
powerful people who really run this world, but you don't care...you know 
it's your place to challenge authority..."

                                          Rockerboy
From: pac1@st-andrews.ac.uk (Paul Andrew Carey)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Re: Finding Demos
Date: 7 Sep 92 12:30:33 GMT
Organization: St. Andrews University, Scotland.

Try ` nic.funet.fi '  & have a look in pub/amiga/demo or demos


Hope this is a help

-= Paul =-
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Friday, 11 Sep 1992 14:02:53 EDT
From: Even better than the real thing. <IO10781@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Re: U4ia RELEIF FUND. WE'RE LOOKING FOR A FEW GOOD SUPPORTERS
 <1992Sep5.155718.58659@cc.usu.edu> <1992Sep5.160219.58662@cc.usu.edu>
 <1992Sep7.125857.880@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au> <2019@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU>

In article <2019@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU>, emackey@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU (Ed
Mackey [910828]) says:
>

 Some stuff deleted ...

>Absolutely not!!  We have enough free stuff already.  If those PD/shareware
>
>And besides, if we DO send them money, what would they do with it?
>No doubt they would go buy more hardware and start writing even more
>free stuff.  What a waste!  Don't they know we are all very happy with
>our commercial word processors that cost $599 apiece??  We didn't
>
>Then they will be forced to stop uploading this crap and get real jobs.
>Our FTP sites will become squeaky-clean finally, and better yet,
>we won't have to put up with programs like ProTracker or MED when
>we could shell out real money for real programs like Sonix that are
>much better because there are far less "options" and controls to
>confuse the user.
>
>All we have to do is restrain ourselves from sending money to these
>people.  Take EdPlayer 2.0 users, for instance.  They set a fine
>example.

  You have got to be kidding. If it wasn't for the wonderful
array of excelent PD software available on FTP sites and such,
those of us who didn't have the $499 or so for commercial
programs sometimes unworthy of such sums of money would be in
software disrepair. I am an avid user of PD software. I do
not agree with the "Give us money" attitude, true. That's why
it is PD and not Shareware. If they want money, they should
release their material into the Shareware. But I fully disagree
with this "PD software sucks" concept. Probably three quarters
of my software is PD material, and much better than a lot of
so called "commercial quality" software costing more than my
entire system did. Why buy a fortune in software when you can
download better stuff for free? Have you ever downloaded a
demo? Same thing pal. If it wasn't for PD software, in all
likelihood, you'd never get your wonderful $99 upgrades whose
sole purpose is to compete with the PD collection. Hey, let's
face it. PD software will never go away, and I for one prefer
it that way.
  Hats off to all PD, Freeware, and Shareware programmers out
there.


>                                --Ed.
>--
>Ed Mackey
>flames > /dev/null

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From: sven@laire.hotb.sub.org (Sven Wachter)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Re: "Lightsourced" polygons?
Distribution: world
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:22:48 GMT
Organization: Organization is a waste of energy!

In article <117617@muvms3.bitnet> rcbi110@muvms3.bitnet (R. ALAN MONROE) writes:
>Can someone explain how "lightsourced" polygons are done?

I think you are talking of illuminated polygons.  There is no simple answer
to  your  question,  because  there  are many ways to do it using different
amounts of cpu-time.

For   simple  shading  with  one  Lightsource  you  may  use  the  folowing
pseudo-code called Flat Shading:

for all polygons
{
	Vector dl = Light-PolygonPoint;
	Vector norm = Normal(polygon);
	
	double light= (dl*norm)/(Length(norm)*Length(dl))
	// light is now in Range -1 to 1
	
	light = scale_light(light)
	// scale light to your colorrange
	
	set_color(light)
	
	draw_polygon(polygon)
}


Normal() calculates the surface normal of the polygon,

set_color() sets the color according to the brightness of the polygon,
            to get more shades on the Amiga you may calculate a pattern
            to extend the available colors for the human eye (dithering)

draw_polygon() draws the polygon using z-buffer or with z-sorted polygons
               using the simple subroutines from graphics.library.

Please excuse my awful english, it's not my native language.


Sven.

BTW: Due to an unstable feed you may have to repeat mail to me.
     I read the group every day, but my feed eats sometimes news
     and mail of whole weeks ;-(
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