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From: harmons@.WV.TEK.COM (Harmon Sommer)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: How does a dyno work?
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:11:04 GMT

Reply-To: harmons@mithril.WV.TEK.COM (Harmon Sommer)
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>In old english units,  P=T*RPM/5252
>with P in hp, T in lb-ft.  If you look at a dyno sheet in these units,
>this is why the torque and hp curves always cross at ~5250 rpm.

Cycle magazine's dyno curves appear to cross at 5252 rpm because they use
10Bhp/div and 10Flb/div for the ordinate scale factors.

"Jagaur V12 Engine Design and Development" shows a collection of torque
and bhp curves where 25Bhp/div and 19Flb/div are used for ordinate
scale factors. On this chart the torque/bhp crossover is at
about 3,000 rpm. And bhp peaks out at 500 for one of the twin cam
prototypes - WOW.
From: twang@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Tony Wang)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Info request: Yamaha TDM850 vs Seca II
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:35:56 GMT
Reply-To: twang@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Tony Wang)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <4duVYva00XQGE1BEcW@andrew.cmu.edu> rc3t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Clay) writes:
>I'm about to purchase one of the two above bikes, as they both seem
>to meet my needs (ie, medium size/price street bike for fun, some touring,
>and generally burning around the county).  Actually, I was all set to 
>get the Seca when I saw the 850 which looks faster and overall better.
				       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	Now wait a minute. I admit the TDM may look faster, but I dare
you to tell me again that it LOOKS BETTER. You're saying that the
Hybrid Dual-purpose-bike-with-a-sportbike-frame-and-camel-humped-two-
bugged-eyed-head LOOKS BETTER than the sexy, sleak, classical-lined,
curvasious Seca II? I've heard that beauty is in the eyes of the
beholder, but this is a case of the beholder needing glasses, and 
a class in design 8-)..... Ok, if you say so.....

>Anyway, I've read about the Seca, but haven't heard a thing about the
>850.  Anybody have any experience or advice on comparing the two?
>Is the 850 worth 1600$ more???  I'm inclined toward the 850 but don't 
>have enough facts to back up my gut feel to blow nearly 2k more.
>What's the story on this TDM850?

	The TDM is based on the Super Tenere Dual Purpose bike that
Yamaha won't sell in the States. The engines is ported out more, and
stroked to the 850cc that it has now. One MAJOR difference is that the
TDM is cradled in the Yamaha Genesis racing frame. According to some
of the dealers I've spoken to, the bike is easy to handle, and really
comfortable, albeit a bit top heavy fully fueled. Kinda like the BMW GS's.

>ADVthanksANCE,
>Robert (many windsurfers, no bikes - yet)
>
>email replies: rc3t+@andrew.cmu.edu

Tony Wang

DoD#0122
AMA#450147

twang@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu
From: pyoung@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk (Peter Young)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: chain vs belt vs shaft drive
Date: 8 Apr 92 10:18:08 GMT
Reply-To: pyoung@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk
Distribution: world,local
Organization: British Telecom Labs

From article <1992Apr7.140801.8480@javelin.sim.es.com>, by blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers):

>>	Belt:	best

> Much like a chain, but doesn't need lubing, costs more to replace, and
> is limited to engines with moderate power output.

Well I suppose it depends on your definition of moderate, but Kawasaki
did race a belt-driven 250 a number of years ago, before the widespread
use of Kevlar in toothed belts. I think the technology exists but the
market doesn't, yet.

Another way to drastically improve the life of a chain, which no-one has
mentioned yet, is to run it fully enclosed like MZ do.




  ____________________________________________________________________
  Pete Young         pyoung@axion.bt.co.uk        Phone +44 473 645054
             BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, IPSWICH IP5 7RE UK
   "There are two kinds of jazz, and they're both crap" - Alexei Sayle
Organization: Senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 00:44:20 -0400 
From: John Robert Nadzam <jn1h+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: roll on

Hey Yeah,

I am currenly a student at carnegie mellon in pittsburgh Pa. The shop I
go to for everything Is Northgate Honda out in Wexford, around 20mi.
from where I live. Yes there are closer shops and most people wonder why
I go all the way out there to get my parts, and etc. Yes it is true An
Alumni from my fraternity (Theta Xi) works there on weekends. And Shoe
(his name) gets me around 10-20% off every thing, I know th owner and
get good deals and such but, well.

It was tuesday and the weather was amazingly claer and warm here in
pittsburgh. I had just go my '80CB750F around 1 1/2 weeks ago. I was out
back carressing her, checking the chain,wiping her doen, when I decided
to check the air filter. poppong the cover off, I decide I needed a new
element, perfect excuse for a perfect day. Whith a shit eating grin I
popped the old one back in, grabbed my leathers and my HZ and punched
the beast over.

Entirely enjoying the fact Pittsburgh puts stop signs at the end of the
entrance ramps to the slab, I squidded out onto the highway, feeling 2nd
gear all the way in the pit of my stomach, listening to the growl rise
in the throat of the inline four. The medium heavy prerush hour traffic,
the two/three new lanes of concrete on 279, my black leather, black
helemt and black sheild, did absoultly nothing to help bikers image.
Sliding up through the lanes, purposely leaning as much as I could on
the beast of silver and engine every time I changed lanes,hightened my
rush. Cresting a hill 3-5miles of slab streached before me without a law
enforcer in sight. My traditional speed run for ol'blue, I opened her
up, the smooth hard pull enlivened me even more. The sawed off peg and
inked digits showed me rapidly approaching 115mph. ol'blues top end with
throttle still left but no highway, a rolled the silver beast down, my
exit came sonn folowed by 1/2mile of twisties, I pulled into the gravel
lot at Northgate, Doing my perculiar habit of getting off the bike,
taking off the helmet, and THEN shutting her down.

Why do I frequent a shop 20 miles from where I live when half a dozen
other, even bigger ones are closer.

I guess it must be for the ride back.

NADZ
DoD #528
'80 CB750F -as yet to be named.

No matter where you go-
            -there you are.
From: sandy@beeker.cs.umass.edu (& Wise)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: chain vs belt vs shaft drive
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:31:14 GMT
Reply-To: wise@cs.umass.edu
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Organization?  I thought entropy would take care of that...
In-reply-to: soderblom@evax2.engr.arizona.edu's message of 6 Apr 92 09:21:08 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.022109.2861@arizona.edu> soderblom@evax2.engr.arizona.edu writes:
   For example, which do you prefer, what's the necessary
   maintainence, etc.  Chain and shaft drives seem to be the most
   common in the bikes i've been looking at.  As always, any info
   appreciated...

I ride a shafty (a Nighthawk S) and love it.  Maintenance is to check
and replace the 90W in the final drive occasionally.  It never needs
adjustment, can't throw lube all over your rear rim, is quiet, smooth,
and, did I mention, low maintenance?
        /s
--
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/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ WISE@CS.UMASS.EDU /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
\/\/\ This situation calls for large amounts of unadulterated CHOCOLATE! /\/\/\
From: cl3d+@andrew.cmu.edu (Carl D. Lovejoy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: O.K., How About DoD MousePads?????
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:14:00 GMT
Organization: Astm Center, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

This is really beginning to worry me, but I actually like this idea. 
YOu can count me in Arnie.
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.autos.tech
From: rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu (Eric Rescorla)
Subject: Re: Looking for a suction cup/magnet (dent pull)....
Organization: Rescorla for himself.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 05:30:59 GMT

In article <92105.122154PAH112@psuvm.psu.edu> <PAH112@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Any ideas?  We have tried glass supply stores, but they do not make one in that
>small of a size.  Where do I find a magnet of that strenght?
Try a magnetic mount of the kind that laser jocks use to hold
their optics to the optical table. I'm told that machine shops
also use them.
-Ekr



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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: maa@mamura.ee.mu.oz.au (Marc Alexander)
Subject: Re: From alt.sex.wizards, where all the good MC discussion is...
Organization: Electrical and Electronic - University of Melbourne 
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 06:08:34 GMT

In article <1992Apr4.023507.14597@cs.ucla.edu> noemi@humpback.cs.ucla.edu (Noemi Berry) writes:
>what is all this nonsense about how vibrations on a motorcycle
>affect women?!
>all it does is make me want to go to the bathroom!!

We'll have to discuss this problem in greater detail, Noemi !

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>noemi@cs.ucla.edu             KotSBL            '82 kawasaki kz305csr  dod #443

:-)

Marc Alexander                    |Internet maa@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au
dept. of ee eng ,uni of melbourne     zx10rd350jex500rx2dod144
parkville 3052 australia          "There's a hole in that story I
fax +61 3 344 6678 voice 3447689   could throw a dog through" R.A.H.
From: ronih@zxninja.Eng.Sun.COM (Ron Ih)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What do we call Harleys?
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:22:06 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: zxninja

In article <1992Apr8.174603.19971@bwdls61.bnr.ca> space@bwdlh522.bnr.ca (Scott Pace) writes:
>
>Japanese bikes are called "rice burners", Italian bikes are called "pasta
>burners", so what do we call American bikes (Harleys)?
>
>Some possibilities:
>
>  - oil burners
>  - burger burners
>  - money burners
>  - wallet burners
>
>Any one else have any suggestions?

Hmmmmmm. We need something that is characteristic of American society....

How about litigation-happy-bloodsucking-lawyer burners?
Or Pinhead-politicians-passing-laws-for-our-own-good burners?
Just doesn't seem to have that *ring* to it though...

Heck, I'll vote for "grease burner."

Does that make a BMW a strudel burner?
A Triumph a Tea burner? (only in the early afternoon :) )
A Jawa a Borscht (sp?) burner?



Ron Ih
1990 Kawasaki ZX-6
ronih@zxninja.Eng.Sun.COM
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: CYBERLIGHT?
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:40:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059

-> So whatever happened to that pioneer in the
-> neon-light-show-masquerading- as-a-safety-device field, the
-> Cyberlight? They seem to have vanished

 Thank Baud.  Besides being illegal in most states, they're INCREDIBLY
annoying.  I've been a rider far longer than a driver, but every time I
see some wahoo with one of those (or the equally stupid Firefly
headlight strober thingie) I get this urge to gently run over him with
my 1-ton Chevy pickup.
From: kenoyer@sfcpmo.enet.dec.com (Greg Kenoyer, Contract Spook)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley 883 owners, I need your opinions!!!
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:25:27 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation



In article <4558@unccvax.uncc.edu>, mpd@unccvax.uncc.edu (Michael Parker Davis)
>
>   An '883' would require some slight mods to make me totally happy though.  I
>
>Initial changes

        fine

>Second changes  ----  Change ignition to a system which only fires one plug
>                        at a time, I believe DYNA makes it.

    I read that the DYNA-S seems to not be the best choice for evos.  A
    recent Hot Bike letter/inquiry lamented about not being able to
    adequately adjust the timing.

    They recommended a (not cheap ~$250 - $350) alternative: the MC Power
    Arc, which does all sorts of supposedly wonderful things.  I'll email
    you the stuff I have.  I'm considering on myself.

>                ----  Add a Screaming Eagle carb modification & airbox kit.

    Consider either S&S E or Mikuni instead

>                ----  Change the camshaft (suggestions welcomed)

    depends on what end you hope to reach - racing or touring

>Third changes   ----  Get someone really good to tune it

    practice, brother, practice.  after the above mods you might very well
    be the best qualified.  evos are not as maintenance intensive as
    shovels, etc.

>                ----  Get leather pants for me (I'm ready)
>                ----  Get leather pants for my wife (and get her on the bike)

    how's'about chaps instead?

		
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 Digital Equipment Corporation	     Colorado Springs, CO
 DoD #0472	                     '84 FLH (The Last Shovel)
     any opinions expressed are mine (not Ken's, et.al.), so tough
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ttmech@convx1.lerc.nasa.gov (Paul Mech)
Subject: Re: R100GS bags at speed
Keywords: too fast
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:54:24 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.081945.1709@nic.csu.net> rbp@sutro.SFSU.EDU (Robert B. Pasker) writes:
>In article <ku1oehINN258@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> rja@batcomfs.Eng.Sun.COM (Ninja Squirrel Master) writes:
>>    On a more serious note:
>>
>>    Empirical testing has shown that,
>>
>>	WITH a 1992 R100GS,
...
>>	...there is no noticeable instability.
>
>
>add twisties and a passenger (~180# (not laurie!)) and there is
>still no noticable instability.


I've added a driving fog light kit from a K75 to my G/S.  When a bolt
loostened and the bracket on one fork walked a few degrees off center,
I experienced instability between 85 and 90 MPH.

By the way, would anyone be interested in a used '89 R100G/S?
I'm told by my doctor that the particular combination of carpal
tunnel and tendonitus will probably never go away.  The bike's
spent most of the last year parked :-( and I'm looking at a used
K100RT to reduce the vibration to my hands.

-- 

Paul J. Mech					ttmech@convx1.lerc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: RE: WHAT TO CALL A HARLEY
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 10 Apr 92 08:54:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059

-> This of course explains the collapse of the American motorcycle
-> industry. The domestic motorcycle mines were depleted, leaving only a
-> single low-volume mine somewhere in the wilds of Wisconsin.

 Hmm... lessee... Maely makes engines, but not bikes.  Buell uses Harley
motors in their bikes, and they used to build some GP two stroke
motors, but as far as I know no complete motorcycles.  Yankee used weird
mutant OSSA engines, and I don't think they're around any more.
Rokon... is Rokon still around?  The dirt bike specialists like Penton
are gone.
From: psmith@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (paul.m.smith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: risks of motorcycling vs experience
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:16:33 GMT
Organization: AT&T - Denver, CO

In article <s1ha7INNoa2@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@East.Sun.COM writes:
>In article 22738@cs.ucla.edu, coleman@rocky.cs.ucla.edu (Mike Coleman) writes:
>>trouble, and that most riders don't get much practice in crashing which might
>>help them to do it more safely.
>
>Let's keep it that way!  (BTW - neither do cagers)

Last summer, a new rider in an MSF class asked if we were going to teach
them the proper way to crash.  He had heard stories of laying the bike
down, then climbing on top of it, and riding it like a surfboard.  He
seemed kind of disappointed that he wasn't going to have the chance to
practice this.  I suggested that this probably wouldn't be worthwhile
to practice, especially on our bikes, and that we would concentrate on
how to avoid crashing in the first place.  

I did suggest that practicing jumping up in falling elevators just before
they hit bottom is probabl worthwhile, though.
-- 

				Paul Smith
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: leung@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Bruce Leung)
Subject: Followup on Bates Deerskin gloves
Summary: replacement gloves are flawless
Organization: Center for Supercomputing R&D, U. of Ill.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 03:33:02 GMT

For those that don't remember, I bought a pair of Bates Deerskin gloves
and sent them back for replacement because the stitching was rather shoddy.

About a week after I mailed them back I got a call from Bates.  The lady
I spoke with said the pair I had was from the first shipment.  The gloves
are made in Korea specifically for Bates.  She said the first few batches
had poor quality control until "they realized they were dealing with Bates."
Now, I don't know how she could tell my gloves were from the first batch
(they have no lot numbers of any kind that I could find) but that's what
she said.  In any case, the replacements that she sent are practically
flawless.  While I'm sure that she hand picked a good pair to send, I
wouldn't hesitate to buy another pair.  I give them (and Bates customer
service) two thumbs up.

In another week or so I'll be able to do a side by side comparison with
the Thurlow gloves since I decided to splurge and buy them too (hey, my
dog ate all my other gloves).  I ordered a pair of the thermal lined
touring gloves with the 5" cuff.  I figure I can use these when it gets
too cold for the Bates.

Bruce

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mick@maxine.wpi.edu (The Missing Link)
Subject: Short biker needs wife
Originator: mick@maxine.wpi.edu
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 08:36:24 GMT


	sorry about the subject line... strange things happen at 5:00a.m
	;) ... couldnt let that one pass...

	anyway... just checked out the gifs on cerritos... what a gang!
	how do i get one of those DoD patches or do i have to figure out
	who the KotP is ?

	cheers,

	- ravi


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From: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: R100GS bags at speed
Keywords: too fast
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:08:20 GMT
Expires: 30 Apr 92 05:00:00 GMT
Reply-To: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben)
Organization: Computervision, Bedford MA

In article <1992Apr15.163226.2076@HQ.Ileaf.COM> grw@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gary Wasserman) writes:
>                        The head bearings seem fine and the
>bike is perfectly stable at all speeds with hands on the bars.
>My workaround for now is to keep my hands on the bars.

Gary, If you took your feet off the triple clamp and sat up instead of
slouching against the back rest you might also find your ride to be a 
little more stable.
Besides, those headers didn't get that blue from loafing slowly down 
back country roads with your hands clasped behind your head...

or did they?

Sincerely,
Your nagging Jewish mother,


Rich Bemben - DoD #0044                     rbemben@timewarp.prime.com
[    THIS SPACE FOR RENT     ]              (617) 275-1800 x 4173
The street giveth and the street taketh away - Catmother
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From: shea@ntmtv.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Who's ever had equipment stolen?
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:21:11 GMT



I have to buy a new bungie net every couple of months if I forget
to take it with me when I leave my bike at the CalTrain station
at 4th & Townshend in SF.  

A friend of mine had his front wheel and the kryponite lock that was
wrapped around it stolen from his bike at the very same station.  I
got off the train and he was just sitting there looking very glum.
They were polite about it, though, and gently set the bike down on
the front fork without causing any other damage.

Another friend had the front brakes stolen off his Radian while his
bike was parked on the sidewalk in front of his apartment.   They
cut the brake cable to get 'em off.

All of these incidents took place since the first of the year.  Pretty
common in the big city, I s'pose.


-- 
Ray Shea			A squid eating dough in a polyethelene
DoD #0372, '88 Hawk NT650	bag is fast and bulbous, got me?
(415)940-2527			
ntmtv!shea@ames.arc.nasa.gov	
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: What to call a harley
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1992 18:58:38 GMT

In article <david.26@hawkesbury.uws.EDU.AU> david@hawkesbury.uws.EDU.AU (David Watkin) writes:
>Well jap bikes are rice burners ore jap s**t.

				 ^^^
Must be the ore from that steel mine.


>Harleys are called the best things on two wheels, wasnt that easy. Ha!

Why on earth would _anybody_ call a Harley "BMW"?


-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com                                        Naperville, IL
'71 CL450-K4 "Gleep"  - "Worth the Obsession"
DoD #094        "I'm not mad; just terribly, terribly hurt."  HDM #007
From: jimb@access.digex.com (Jim Brooking)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Honda CB1000
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:19:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: access.1992Apr7.171902.24979
Distribution: usa
Organization: The League of Crafty Bass Guitarists

Does anyone have any specs on the new Honda CB1000?   The only things
I've heard about it are (a) it's a CBR1000 without the plastic, and
(b) it's a sport-cruiser.

I'm looking for stuff like list price, performance, estimated
insurance, etc.   I wanted a CBR1000, but $(*&#@ Honda discontinued
it.  8^( 8^(

Can I get a windshield for the front?

Tnx
  jim
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: O.K., HOW ABOUT DOD MOUSE
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 16:09:02 GMT

dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)  writes:
>-> My wife's office partner's wife suggested the ultimate DoD goody.
>-> She said that since all people on the net are, to some extent,
>-> computer types, how about MousePads with the Denizen logo?

> MICE???   WE DON' NEED NO STEENKEENG MICE!

> Brr.  Anyone who's use a mouse would probably ride a motorcycle with an
>automatic transmission.

True, Real Men (tm) use trackballs.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
DoD #46               My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.              FJ1200