HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mysti@sybase.com (Mysti)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Fun facts to know and tell
Date: 15 Oct 92 00:15:50 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <14888@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:

>On a similar note... I asked the following question to someone recently and
>didn't get an sufficient answer.
>
>What is the difference between a nerd, a geek, and a dweeb?

A nerd makes good money, a dweeb can't get a date even though he/she
does, and a geek bites the heads off chickens at the circus...
--
Friends don't let friends vote Republican
From: mike.mcaulay@spacebbs.com (Mike Mcaulay)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: RE: DRIVING PEOPLE FROM T
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:25:00 GMT
Reply-To: mike.mcaulay@spacebbs.com (Mike Mcaulay)
Distribution: ba
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193

-> From: Jawara@Applelink.Apple.COM (Ron Drake)

-> The mistake I made was responding to you in public. I was speaking
-> for myself and not for Apple. The sentiment I expressed isn't in
-> keeping with the spirit we try to observe here and for that I
-> apologize.

A touching sentiment, to be sure.  Say, who's that looking over your
shoulder?

-> As for the characterization of any human being as a "dog", I will not
-> acquiesce to that.

Ron, it's good that you stick up for your home turf.  The thing is, I
never attacked it!  You're sure that I'm using "dogs" in a pejorative
sense, but really I'm not.  In many ways, I feel more of a sense of
kinship with the EPAers than the PAers.  There's a certain rangy
vitality to a hungry dog singlemindedly searching for food that's
completely absent in the vacant overripe consumers crowding the
sidewalks of downtown PA.

-> There are lots of "figurative" terms that turn out to be
-> mean-spirited and demeaning.  Ask any woman.

Very true.  But there are also many figurative terms that turn out to be
evocative and powerful;  just ask any poet.

-> As for the semantic niceties of characterizing the sound of machine
-> guns, answer me this: ever seen a collie fire a machine gun?

No, of course not.  I described the SOUND as inhuman, Ron.  The SOUND.
Not the concept.

-> Your post caught me in a bad mood and I probably should have accorded
-> it the real attention it deserved (i.e. ignored it) but things didn't
-> work out that way.

I think you should come right out and apologize for being a jerk, not
hem and haw and mumble about a "bad mood."  Either that or pull out your
nucular flamethrower and LET ME HAVE IT.  You know you want to.  Your
fingers are twitching over the keyboard even now, aren't they?

M.
From: mike.mcaulay@spacebbs.com (Mike Mcaulay) 
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Driving people from the net
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:06:00 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193
Reply-To: mike.mcaulay@spacebbs.com (Mike Mcaulay) 


Jawara@Applelink.Apple.COM (Ron Drake) writes:

-> > True story: last New Year's eve I wandered out of my house to a
-> nearby > park and stood in horror listening to the machine guns going
-> off in East > Palo Alto.  I had never actually heard real machine
-> guns before.  It's a > scary, inhuman sound, and it was wierd to
-> think of all that lead arcing > through the air above me.  I mention
-> this because it was that night that > I decided to move out.  To much
-> sleepy wealth next to too many hungry > dogs.

-> Hungry dogs, eh? Well, as one of those "hungry dogs" I say on behalf
-> of all of us that a) machine gun fire is certainly scary but by no
-> means "inhuman."
-> It's EXTREMELY human; b) it's people like you that make folks pop off
-> a few rounds now and then...not that I'd do it myself but when ya get
-> characterized
-> as a "hungry dog", Christian charity ain't uppermost in your mind; c)
-> Good Riddance to you! You're the kind of person who'd have gone to
-> EPA and gotten
-> rolled on account of your attitude...but, no...thank God you probably
-> didn't
-> have the guts.

Wow, Ron, you are a truly FUN guy.  Ok lessee, where to start.  First a
general observation:  I find it very interesting that you think my
sympathies lie with the Palo Altans whom I characterized as "cream faced
swells" and as "sleepy."  Why do you think I moved out for cryin out
loud!?

As for your points, a) I'm not the first person to characterize
machinery as inhuman.  If you take exception to this characterization
you are flying directly in the face of much of the art, literature, and
social commentary of the last 100 years.  b) see my first
paragraph above.  As for the bit about "hungry dogs," well, I think
that's a very apt description of a certain type of individual one sees
on the streets of EPA.  It's figurative, not literal, but it gets the
point across.  c) Wishful thinking, Ron.  Not only did I visit EPA
(without managing to get "rolled" thank you very much) but I lived
there for a while.  So I know whereof I speak.

->Abi gesundt, wherever you are, Punk.

Do you feel stupid yet?  You jumped all over me with a bunch of
assumptions which turned out to be totally wrong.  Remember Ron, a real
man is not afraid to admit when he's made a mistake.

M.
                                                                                                       
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Subject: Re: Fun facts to know and tell
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:09:03 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.172940.3190@netcom.com> marv@netcom.com (Marvin Raab) writes:
>In article <1992Oct8.171424.1568@netcom.com> aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
>>Just a side note: based on extensive anecdotal evidence, over 80% of all
>>relationships which started on the Net are older woman/younger man.
>
>   I would *love* to know where you got that statistic. As far as I know,
>and I make it a serious concern to follow such stats, no one has compiled
>any sort of data on how/where relationships originate...

As I said, it *is* anecdotal: I know of about 10 or 15 relationships
that started with some form of e-mail contact, and only 2 or 3 of those
where the man is older.  Also, when I make such pronouncements in
public, I have never been contradicted (questioned, yes, but not
contradicted), so I assume that other's experiences agree with mine.
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Who needs Lime Jello [tm]?  We had lasagna.....
From: ellon@ADS.COM (Ellon St. Croix)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Fun facts to know and tell
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:45:57 GMT
Organization: Wild Bill & BabyCat's House of Many Pleasures


charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
>>Just a side note: based on extensive anecdotal evidence, over 80% of all
>>relationships which started on the Net are older woman/younger man.
>>There appears to be no good theory for why this occurs...
>
>Sure there is.  Younger men last longer.


 And they are easier to train.;+)


 Ellon
 (stiring up the hornets nest!)


--
Nothin' feels as good, as good as us together.  Nothin' in the world,
no, there ain't nothin' better than this... NEW LOVE! Always feels 
like a new love. Every touch is feelin' so much like the very first
touch. It's like a new love, a new love........  WCS & ESS 4/18/92 
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Fun facts to know and tell
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:05:02 GMT

aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:

>marv@netcom.com (Marvin Raab) writes:
>> aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
>>>Just a side note: based on extensive anecdotal evidence, over 80% of all
>>>relationships which started on the Net are older woman/younger man.
>>
>>   I would *love* to know where you got that statistic. As far as I know,
>>and I make it a serious concern to follow such stats, no one has compiled
>>any sort of data on how/where relationships originate...

>As I said, it *is* anecdotal: I know of about 10 or 15 relationships
>that started with some form of e-mail contact, and only 2 or 3 of those
>where the man is older.  Also, when I make such pronouncements in
>public, I have never been contradicted (questioned, yes, but not
>contradicted), so I assume that other's experiences agree with mine.

Seeing as I'm a living contradiction in a lot of folks minds I may as well
jump in here and be contrary - 

I met my girlfriend via bulletin board posts and email, and she's 10 years 
younger than me. We corresponded for about 6 months and now we've lived
together for about 2.5 years... 

  - malcolm@wrs.com  
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: ellon@ADS.COM (Ellon St. Croix)
Subject: Re: Blues Festival
Organization: Wild Bill & BabyCat's House of Many Pleasures
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 21:51:38 GMT


msmiller@Rational.COM (Mark Miller) writes:
>bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:
>>johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>|> >I'm suprised 'e hasn't mentioned this but the 6th annual JJ's Blues
>|> >Festival and BBQ is this weekend, Oct. 17-18.  It is going to be held
>|> >at Guadalupe park (don't ask me where that is, I don't know).  The 
>|> >music begins each day at 11:00 and the headliner act for the day starts
>|> >at 4:30 and 5:00 on Saturday and Sunday respectively.  Best of all it's
>|> >FREE.
>|> 
>|> BluesBoink!  BluesBoink!
>
>... which could also be interpretted as "Blue Angels Boink" ...
>
>Anyone living withing spitting distance of Moffett knows the Blues
>are in town this weekend.


    WHEEEEEEEEE!  There is nothing else in life like the feeling you 
    get when being buzzed by an F-18!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


--
Nothin' feels as good, as good as us together.  Nothin' in the world,
no, there ain't nothin' better than this... NEW LOVE! Always feels 
like a new love. Every touch is feelin' so much like the very first
touch. It's like a new love, a new love........  WCS & ESS 4/18/92 
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: slf@netcom.com (Sharon Fisher)
Subject: Re: Fun facts to know and tell
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:48:10 GMT

marv@netcom.com (Marvin Raab) writes:

>Adding Never Married to Divorced, we have a 1.2:1 ratio of available
>men to available women.

And Marvin is awarded the Brett Glass "Using Statistics To Prove It's
Not My Fault I Don't Have A Girlfriend" award for 1992.  Let's give
him a big hand, folks.
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: LJ10717@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: PERSONAL MESSAGE FOR LESLEY SMITH :-)
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 16:43:11 GMT


Hello,

I'm looking for Lesley Smith from Sun Computer Systems(sp?) in the E. Bay?
If you're around please email :-).   Thanks....

Diamond
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Diamond - lj10717@lmsc5.is.lmsc.lockheed.com   "After all, diamonds are a
                                                girl's best friend!"
                                                   -MM
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From: jimmy@finch.scac.edu
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Info: Fleet Week / Moffett Air Show
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:55:44 GMT
Organization: Sacramento College of Arts and Crafts

In article <1992Oct8.165604.1@rddvax.decnet.lockheed.com>, Chris Rhode writes:
>Fleet Week "starts" on Sat Oct 10th

Hello, sailor!
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: desiree@netcom.com (Desiree Champagne)
Subject: Re: TOO MUCH HEAVYOSITY
Summary: NFC, please
Organization: Just hangin
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:59:30 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.011755.4813@morrow.stanford.edu> HF.MMZ@forsythe.stanford.edu (Michael Martinka) barks:
>LIGHTEN UP PEOPLE!

	"Lighten up" -- is that a remark directed to those that are
overweight, sun worshippers or dour?

> This is supposed to be about the singles scene.

	Well, duh....

>Let's get back to relationships and mindless sexual conversation.

	If you're not thinking while having a conversation focussed on
sex, perhaps that is the reason you're single?


Guess I'm back,

Desiree




Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: msmiller@Rational.COM (Mark Miller)
Subject: Re: Fun facts to know and tell
Organization: Rational
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 22:44:18 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.194416.17901@netcom.com>, bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct8.191308.14460@netcom.com> slf@netcom.com (Sharon Fisher) writes:
|> >
|> >The point is, you (whoever you are) will get a hell of a lot further
|> >out in the world, meeting people, than sitting around compiling
|> >statistics.
|> >
|> Now, Sharon, you know what happens when you interject logic into
|> an arguement.  A lot of people on ba.singles get confused, curl into
|> the fetal position, and whimper for their mommy.
|> Let's try and keep things inane and senseless so people continue
|> to feel normal.

Yes, please do. This was just starting to get really tiresome before
you went and ruined it.

	-MSM


	"If you don't think too good, don't think too much."
		-- Ted Williams
________________________________________________________________________
Mark S. Miller                                     msmiller@Rational.COM
"Life is a 4-letter word."                        msmiller@world.std.com
[ insert tedious disclaimer drivel here ]                           IV-Q
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Driving people from the net
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:31:51 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Oct9.004053.18387@rational.com> msmiller@Rational.COM (Mark Miller) writes:
>    -MSM (... getting more and more curious about this apparent
>          fixation with the phrase "people like you", and variations
>          on it ...)

Let me try this one more time...

When I used the term "people like you" I was responding to someone that used
the term "people like me".  It's not a term that I use regularly but seemed
most appropriate in the context of the article that I was responding to.  The
fixation about the phrase seems to be yours.

-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira     | Auspex Systems | "Auspex does not share my opinions.  |
| johnf@auspex.com | Santa Clara CA |  So Why am I still working here?"    |
+==========================================================================+
From: Jawara@Applelink.Apple.COM (Ron Drake)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Driving people from the net
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:05:28 GMT
Followup-To: ba.singles
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

> As for your points, a) I'm not the first person to characterize
> machinery as inhuman.  If you take exception to this characterization
> you are flying directly in the face of much of the art, literature, and
> social commentary of the last 100 years.  b) see my first
> paragraph above.  As for the bit about "hungry dogs," well, I think
> that's a very apt description of a certain type of individual one sees
> on the streets of EPA.  It's figurative, not literal, but it gets the
> point across.  c) Wishful thinking, Ron.  Not only did I visit EPA
> (without managing to get "rolled" thank you very much) but I lived
> there for a while.  So I know whereof I speak.
> 
> ->Abi gesundt, wherever you are, Punk.
> 
> Do you feel stupid yet?  You jumped all over me with a bunch of
> assumptions which turned out to be totally wrong.  Remember Ron, a real
> man is not afraid to admit when he's made a mistake.
> 
> M.
>                                                                                                        

The mistake I made was responding to you in public. I was speaking for
myself
and not for Apple. The sentiment I expressed isn't in keeping with the
spirit we try to observe here and for that I apologize.

As for the characterization of any human being as a "dog", I will not
acquiesce to that. I grew up with those "dogs" and your characterization of
them as such slanders me and them. They are human beings with very real
problems; many of them of their own making. If you lived there, you should
know that and it appalls me even more that you'd characterize them in that
way. There are lots of "figurative" terms that turn out to be mean-spirited
and demeaning. Ask any woman.

As for the semantic niceties of characterizing the sound of machine guns,
answer me this: ever seen a collie fire a machine gun? Make one? Take the
slightest interest? No, Mike. Humans are the only ones capable of making
and/or using such cold-hearted technology.

Your post caught me in a bad mood and I probably should have accorded it
the real attention it deserved (i.e. ignored it) but things didn't work
out that way. End of subject.
From: c60b-2hz@web-2f.berkeley.edu (Nathaniel Meyers)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Older Men
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:06:12 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: web-2f.berkeley.edu

My experience of men (coming from the fact that I've been one for as
long as I can remember) is that those who can either do or don't.  It's
only those that can't who talk.  And, James, I'm sure it's all very nice
that you like your own butt, but don't you think you'd impress more
people by NOT noticing.  (Just how limber is your neck or are all your
walls mirorred?)
-Nathaniel (not so young as I was ten years ago)
I'm still chuckling over "They think it's cool that you have your own place."
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: akao@.com (Adam Kao)
Subject: Re: Fun facts to know and tell
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores, CA
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 18:50:34 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Oct8.194557.15394@ads.com> ellon@ADS.COM (Ellon St. Croix) writes:
>charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>>aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
>>Sure there is.  Younger men last longer.
>
> And they are easier to train.;+)

Oh baby, train me all you want, I promise to practice practice practice ...

Adam

(now wouldn't a flirtfest be more fun than a flamefest?)

Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Subject: analytical modeling
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 05:05:17 GMT

slf@netcom.com (Sharon Fisher) writes:
] 
] The point is, you (whoever you are) will get a hell of a lot further
] out in the world, meeting people, than sitting around compiling
] statistics.
] 


Is it Just me, or is the thought that some of us
make our lively HOODs doing Mondo Number Crunching
and well....

Anecdotal Evidence: My Father's old college Bud did a 
survey of all the women that he - developed an analysis
of the available personnel and proceded to work his way
through the inventory until he had engaged a wife. It
was a simple, straight forward application of sound
bizniz principles...... Last we Knew they were still
happily married.....


Maybe if we developed better Computational Models about
the sorts of relationships we are interested in testing,
we could run them through the number cruncher a few
times before we had to 'put the bird in the wind tunnel.'

Not that I am suggesting that Computational Fluid Dynamics
is the Sole Model upon which to analyse relationships......



ciao
drieux

ps: The Problem is the Model Worked Excellently,
but there are some Problems Adjusting Reality
and the ProblemOlderWoman......

But I think we'll have the bugs out by
the Next Release....

-- 
Modern Day Problems:

ME? engage in Hyperbole?
I have rarely been more than a first Order Function!!!!
From: diana@wetware.com (CatWoman )
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Older Men
Date: 13 Oct 92 01:28:37 GMT
Organization: Castle WetWare MouseCatcher

You know - I can't help wondering just how old 
this "Older Man" is.

I've got a funny feeling he'd STILL be considered
a ProblemYoungerMan from where I stand.

Diana
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: msmiller@Rational.COM (Mark Miller)
Subject: Re: Driving people from the net
Organization: Rational
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:39:50 GMT

In article <14940@auspex-gw.auspex.com>, johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct9.004053.18387@rational.com> msmiller@Rational.COM (Mark Miller) writes:
|> >    -MSM (... getting more and more curious about this apparent
|> >          fixation with the phrase "people like you", and variations
|> >          on it ...)
|> 
|> Let me try this one more time...
|> 
|> When I used the term "people like you" I was responding to someone that used
|> the term "people like me".  It's not a term that I use regularly but seemed
|> most appropriate in the context of the article that I was responding to.  The
|> fixation about the phrase seems to be yours.

I wasn't referring to any recent article of yours. That latest go-round
about gunfire in East Palo Alto featured this wonderful catch phrase.
Twice. Phrases such as "you people", "your kind", and "people like you"
sort of stand out to me. Especially when I see them occur with such
frequency in a regional newsgroup.

	-MSM

________________________________________________________________________
Mark S. Miller                                     msmiller@Rational.COM
"Life is a 4-letter word."                        msmiller@world.std.com
[ insert tedious disclaimer drivel here ]                           IV-Q
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker)
Subject: Re: Fun facts to know and tell
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:44:16 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.191308.14460@netcom.com> slf@netcom.com (Sharon Fisher) writes:
>
>The point is, you (whoever you are) will get a hell of a lot further
>out in the world, meeting people, than sitting around compiling
>statistics.
>
Now, Sharon, you know what happens when you interject logic into
an arguement.  A lot of people on ba.singles get confused, curl into
the fetal position, and whimper for their mommy.
Let's try and keep things inane and senseless so people continue
to feel normal.

Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: slf@netcom.com (Sharon Fisher)
Subject: Re: Fun facts to know and tell
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:13:08 GMT

The point behind my admittedly snide comment is this: Regardless of
whether the ratio of available men to available women is 1.2 or 2.3 or
.8 or whatever, there's still thousands of available people in a given
geographic area.  Finding love is not an algorithm -- or, if it is,
it's simply "Meet as many people as you can, become friends with as
many as you can, regardless of whether they fall into your target
group, and simply become a more interesting person."  So-and-so who
numerically seems too young may be just right when you know him/her.
S/he may have an older brother/sister/friend.  

The point is, you (whoever you are) will get a hell of a lot further
out in the world, meeting people, than sitting around compiling
statistics.