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From: orre@thalamus.sans.kth.se (Roland Orre)
Subject: Quest: High-Density Floppy Drive
Reply-To: orre@nada.kth.se (Roland Orre)
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:24:10 GMT

I want to install one of those Chinon FB-357A High Density floppy drives
that can half its rotation speed on my Amiga2000B 6.3 as soon as possible.
I need it especially for A-MaxII.

1) Does someone know if this drive will work on an unmodified 2000? How
   does the software recognize the new drive. (Some special ready signal or
   mountlist entry ??)
   Is some additional logics necessary, I don't have the Technical Reference
   for 3000 so I don't know if there are any HW floppy diffs.

2) Where can I get this drive? I have asked several mail order companies
   that sell Amiga hardware but they don't have it. I have also checked with
   those repairing Amigas but they claim that CBM does not have it as spare
   part yet.

Thanks beforehand
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From: paulg@weird.miami.fl.us (Paul Griswold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Amiga Future?!?
Date: 23 Jul 92 23:15:30 EDT
Organization: Weird BBS [Amiga] (305)553-3207 S. Miami, FL USA

I don't know if you saw any of my posts, but I agree with you in that we need to stop whining about Commodore and do something about it!  I'm still trying to organize stockholders to try to force C= to do something about their mismanagement.  I'm heading to the Bahamas with a list of stockholders and their complaints... I'll probably get kicked out of the meeting, but at least I'll give it a try!  

Paul Griswold
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: dkm@col.hp.com (Dave K. Martin)
Subject: Re: Help on accelerating an A2000 rev 4.x
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:31:17 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

I've been quite happily using a 25 mhz Mega-Midget Racer in my 4.3 2000 for 
about 18 months.  So far I've not had any problems that I can prove to be 
caused by the MMR.
 
Just for the record, my system consists of:
        A2000 with rev 4.3 motherboard 
        A CSA MMR running at 25 mhz with 2m of 32 bit dram, no static ram
          or math chip yet.
        Fat Agnus for 1m chip ram.
        A2091 controller with 2m ram and a 105m Quantum.
        Microbotics 8-UP with 4m ram.
        A2320 Display enhancer with C= 1960 monitor.
        A2088 XT Bridgboard (waiting for the 386 version!).
        Multiport IO adapter for the Bridgeboard.
        Controller for MFM hard drive for the Bridgeboard.
        A 20m MFM hard drive for the Bridgeboard (on a separate power supply)
        An extra fan mounted internally (the 8-UP runs kinda hot)
        Four 3.5 floppy drives for the Amiga.
        One 5.25 and one 3.5 floppy drives on the Bridgeboard.
        A 40m SCSI tape drive on the 2091 using BTNTAPE or Quarterback 5.02.

So far, none of the Zorro II cards I've tried with this system have failed 
to work with the MMR.

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--- Dave Martin - dkm@col.hp.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: tope@enea.se (Tommy Petersson)
Subject: Re: 386BB and 2630
Organization: Enea Data AB
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 09:33:31 GMT

aegnor@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (David C. Powell) writes:
- In article <63021@cup.portal.com> DennyA@cup.portal.com (Denny Lee Atkin) writes:
- >Pat,
- >
- >Unfortunately, the 4MB on the 2630 is configured in your 8MB of RAM
- >expansion room. With a 4MB 2630 and the Bridgeboard, you'll only be
- >able to add 2MB of 16-bit RAM.
- >
- >Denny Atkin                | dennya@cup.portal.com          | "No matter where
- 
- Say WHAT???  I thought the whole 'beauty' of the 2620/2630 accelerator boards
- was the fact that their *32bit* ram was 'outside' of the standard Amiga
- autoconfig ram space, and thus with a BB, you could have 6Meg of 16Bit
- ram in the 'standard' autoconfig address [+ 1Meg of chip / 2Meg of chip if
- you have MegaChip/a 3000 for a total of 7/8Meg] and however much 32bit
- ram that was supported by the board [like the 112 meg that you can stuff
- on the DKB memory board for the 2630card] thus, making the BB system much
- more viable/useable...
- 

No, that's the 'beauty' of the A3000...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: jyrkis@mits.mdata.fi (Jyrki Saarinen)
Subject: A2630 and '86 A2000
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:56:30 GMT

This may be a repost also, but I hope You don't mind..

Does the A2630 work with _A_2000 rev. 4 or 4.3? There is '86 sign on
the motherboard, so my Amiga is quite old. Golem's 68030-cards don't
work, GVP Combos don't, but does A2630?

To Dave Haynie:

Why doesn't those cards work with A2000? There some signal missing from
A2000's 86-pin slot, but what's the meaning of 'the missing pin'?

Thanks for your answers, this is kinda important, I can't stand this A2000
without more memory and speed. 

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From: jgodfrey@zeus.calpoly.edu (Jon David "JET" Godfrey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Tape SCSI medium error (HardFrame/Viper)
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:50:11 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

In article <1992Jul28.160159.18890@walter.cray.com> paws@spam.cray.com (Daniel Baehr) writes:
>
>In article <535qr*GJ0@caleb.UUCP>, jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett) writes:
>> In article <1992Jul22.092234.1213@walter.cray.com>, Daniel Baehr writes:
>> 
>> >  me to use ONLY 3M tapes.  I believe him!!  The only tapes that have held
>> >  up are the 3Ms I have.  The Sony and Verbatums died.  So, clean your
>> 
>> I have had little success with the Sony 6250 tapes on my Archive 2150S.  Most
>> of the Sony's won't write an entire backup - even on the first try.  The 3M
>> tapes work pretty well, though.
>> 
>> Anyone out there know a good, inexpensive source of new 3M 6250 tapes?
>> 
>    The cheapest I have found 3M tapes for is from Dartek.  The DC6150
> is $24.95 in 1-4 quantities. They have an 800 number so call 800
> directory assistance to get it as I dont have it here.
>
>    I was able to get the Sony tapes , 6150`s, to write a full tape but
> I have problems on reads.  I have to clean the head after *every*
> tape!!  Then I have no problems.  When I use 3M's I can follow the
> manufacturers spec and clean the head every 8 hours of use and
> everything is fine.
>

I recently purchased a Viper150 too.  I got my tapes from MEI.  They have just
recently started carrying tapes of all sizes.  They sell their DC6150 for
$16.67 (2-4) or $15.67 (5+).  The tapes have been very reliable for me, and
their constuction is very sound!

Give MEI/Micro Center a call at 1-800-634-3478 for a catalog or order.

There is one other statment I should make here too.  I have no affiliation with
MEI/Micro Center.  Although I have dealt with many companies all over the world,
I have never ever had the kind of service that I have received from MEI.  The
operators aren't just some dumb answering services--these people know their
product and will extend every possible ounce to help you out!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: mjp3783@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: HD probs
Reply-To: mjp3783@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 23:37:11 GMT

HELP! Can someone locate for me a hard drive repair program similar to
QuarterBack tools? I seem to remember several of them, but I can't actually
FIND any (FixDisk was one). If you would even uuencode it and e-mail it to me,
I would be happier!
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From: Rinaldo_Carlo_Petterino@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Meaning of Task No. in Software Failures/Gurus
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 00:16:54 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

What you need is a PD program called Alert Manager.  It does a 
SetFunction () of the DisplayAlert function of intution library. Each
time DisplayAlert is called the wedge checks if someone tries to GURU.
If it senses a GURU it looks for the task address, computes the task name,
tyhe program name (if launched from a CLI) the alert number, and the
alert name.  This should be placed in your s-s and will do what you
ask.
From: mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A600 HD SCSI or NOT The man speaks :-)?
Date: 29 Jul 92 12:53:21 GMT
Reply-To: mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

keith@actrix.gen.nz (Keith Stewart) writes:
>In article <33693@cbmvax.commodore.com> mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz) writes:
>> sbiddle@aviate.welly.gen.nz (Steve Biddle) writes:
>> >In article <1992Jul23.080500.9293@cenaath.cena.dgac.fr>,
>> >	barre@cenaath.cena.dgac.fr (Roland BARRE) writes:
>> >>
>> >>Does someone know the type of hard drive than I can put in an A600 (pc ide ?)
>> >>
>> >>and the price of this hard drive ( 20 mega or 50 mega)?
>> >
>> >Well this may come as a surprise to many, but the A600 has just been released
>> >over here in New Zealand and Australia, and is actually shipping with a 30meg
>> >SCSI drive, rather than the IDE drive that was previously mentioned.
>> >So basically any 2.5" SCSI drive should cause no problems.
>>
>> Someone is trying to make one of your legs longer than the other.  ;^)
>>
>> The A600 hardware *DOES NOT* come with SCSI and I know of no hardware available
>> for it that makes it work with SCSI.  The internal hardware is IDE.  The
>> internal drives are IDE.
>>
>
>The leg puller in question ( not me!!!!) ran HDTOOLBOX on the A600HD and it
>seems to scan the scsi bus and reported as if there was a normal SCSI drive
>present.
>
>What a greatsoftware programme that can turn an IDE into a SCSI :-)

Well, this is because the IDE control software is a device called
"scsi.device" and takes the same software commands such that tools that
work with SCSI drives (such as our HDToolBox) will continue to work.
(That way we did not have to make an IDE-HDToolBox...)

You can thank Randell Jesup for some rather nice code that translates the
SCSI command into what it needs to do and then does it on the IDE.

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Date: 27 Jul 92 16:57:00 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Distribution: comp
Subject: A2000 & Apple 13" monitor
From: jopa@tkk.tele.fi (Jorma Paananen)

Has anyone connected A2000 and Apple 13" color RGB monitor ?
Which pins should be connected ?

Jorma  jopa@th.tele.fi
-----
It's not an optical illusion, it just looks like one.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: admiralq@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Samuel Castro)
Subject: Will I need bigger PS?
Summary: to use a GVP Series ii or a 2090a with slingshot?
Keywords: slingshot gvp power supply 2090a
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 03:34:34 GMT

I have a rev 5 A500 with the 1 meg chip hack, soon to have a rom switcher between 1.3 and 2.0, soon to have a pal/ntsc switch.

What I would like to know is:

If I get a slingshot for my 500, will I be able to use the GVP series II 8+ HC controller for the 2000 on my 500.

By the same token, will I be able to use a 2090a or similar controller for a HD
.  

The question of the hour is - Will I need a bigger power supply?

I posted this message a while back, but I had the distribution set wrong, so I 
don't think it got through.

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

Sam

admiralq@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
From: phister@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ben Phister - CATS)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: CDTV questions
Keywords: HD,flickerfixer,genlock,joystick
Date: 27 Jul 92 12:40:46 GMT
Reply-To: phister@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ben Phister - CATS)
Distribution: comp
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <256@cbmswe.se.so.commodore.com> hjalmar@cbmswe.se.so.commodore.com (Peter Hjalmarsson Sweden) writes:
>
>>a genlock,
>
>Theoretically possible (can replace the RF/composite video interface card
>in the back), but as far as I know, none is available. You can use an
>external genlock however, just like the A500.


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From: bkwilli@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Bryan Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: GVP multi-port card
Date: 27 Jul 92 04:56:49 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

re: catalog shopping...
 
I seriously suggest that you look in Computer shopper for serial boards and
not JDR or any other catalog place. Jameco also has much high than Computer-
Shopper norm prices...   (this is just for future reference.)
 
I was going to suggest soldering iron but I see you thought of it. BTW, a good
way to de-solder chips you don't care to destroy is to take a pair of clippers
and cut each lead invididually. Then desolder. Much easier than trying to pull
40 pins at once!!!   
 
(this is general info for all, not just you. I heard someone suggest that after
replacing the 18-pin RAM chips in my C128 the hard way--- DUH! ... so I share
the info  :)
From: Scotty@freemf.UUCP (Scotty)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Serial mouse on an amiga
Distribution: world
Date: 26 Jul 92 10:53:42 PDT
Organization: Not an Organization

In a message dated Sun 26 Jul 92  3:43, Ree88132@zach.fit.edu (keith Ledig)
wrote:

 RL> I am trying to interface an IBM serial mouse to an amiga computer
 RL> and I need a little info....  

  There are some people out here with A2232 multi serial boards...  Does a
driver exist that would allow me to use a three-button(serial - of course)
mouse on one of these ports?  *(Scotty)*

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: Donald.Kennedy@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Donald Kennedy)
Subject: Sparc-on-a-card for Amiga
Keywords: Sparc, graphics, UNIX, bridgeboard
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 00:56:08 GMT

To Ralph Seguin:

How is the Opus Systems Sparc card hardware sensitive? I would tend to
think that the AT Bridgeboard would be OK, unless it's an order of
magnitude pickier than I would think. How about running it remote using
X-Windows, if the BB idea wouldn't work?

To Thomas Leavitt:

I'd LOVE to see it adapted to Zorro II or III but the economic realities
of it would be somewhat limited. That's why the Palomax interface looked
attractive. I've contacted the Palomax guy before about some custom
hardware I was interested in developing. He's written drivers for DSP and
other complex PC hardware using his hardware interface, so I figure the
Sparc systems could be in the realm of possibility...

I've always thought that CBM should recompile or reassemble AmigaDOS or
EXEC to run on a RISC/Sparc processor. License the GL libs from SGI and
you have an instant "Indigo Killer" ;)

BTW, I looked into the IRISVision card from SGI. It is much more processor
and host dependant than the Sparc systems. The company now handling the
distribution of former SGI products for PC/Mac said that they recommended
a fast 386/486DX system for it to work in a decent fashion. It would be
MUCH harder to get working on an Amiga system.

Don Kennedy
Donald.Kennedy@bbs.oit.unc.edu


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: kaltenha@informatik.uni-freiburg.de (Raoul Kaltenhaeuser)
Subject: Harddisk>500MB for A3000
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Freiburg, Deutschland
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 11:05:15 GMT

I plan to buy a bigger Harddisk for my A3000. I heard that not
every SCSI drive works ok with the Amiga's host adapter. So
I try to collect experiences and recommendations of other users.
Which drives work, are fast and reliable, and which work not,
are too slow or crash after several months?

Thanks in advance

Raoul



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From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Amiga As A Thermometer?
Date: 24 Jul 92 06:08:17 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany


In article <pl159410.710645917@academ01> pl159410@academ01.mty.itesm.mx (Alejandro Garza Gonzalez) writes:
 >cobra@coyote.datalog.com (Ken Thompson) writes:
 >
 >>   I was wondering (dangerous, I know...) if anyone would happen to
 >> know  of a hardware  hack  for an Amiga to monitor air temperature
 >> via  a  joystick  port.  
 >
 >There is an analog joystick handler out there that'll provide the Analog to 
 >Digital converter necessary for reading the voltage from a thermocouple. 
 >A cheap variable-resistor which is temperature controlled is available from 
 >radio Shak for about 2 bucks. The analog joystick driver is somewhere on a 
 >Fred Fish
 >disk (on the net) and has included examples in C. 

(Use your Return key!!!)

 >You could go about connecting the thermistor the following way...
 > 
 > pin x  -------/\/\/\/\/\---------|
 >(amiga +5V)    thermistor	  |
   ^^^^^ pin 7
 >		        	_______
 >		   		  ---
 >				   -
 >				ground (pin y)
                                 ^^^^^^ nah, you won't connect simply
                                        + 5 V to ground, will you?        
				 It's pin 5 for POTX or pin 9 for POTY
                                 (taken from user manual, why schematics?)

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From: kehlet@kehlet.adsp.sub.org (Jesper Kehlet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: HP LaserJet 500+
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:41:42 GMT
Organization: Compos Mentis Software Systems
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith


OK guys, I need some memory for this one -- the HP LaserJet 500+.

Anybody know a number to some dealer ANYWHERE in the world -- preferably
Hewlett-Packard in the United States, of course...

This would be VERY much appreciated, as I have only 512k in it and I need
AT LEAST another meg...


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From: peteru@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: HELP: WB windows freeze until disket change !
Date: 30 Jul 92 00:39:29 GMT
Organization: school of Mathematics UNSW

In article <1992Jul28.203740.3420@funet.fi> po87553@cs.tut.fi (Pasi 'Albert' Ojala) writes:
>In article <1992Jul28.052704.16443@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> peteru@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU () writes:
>>In article <92209.104315PROHVK38@TREARN.BITNET> Cem Turgay <PROHVK38@TREARN.BITNET> writes:
>>>driver button once. The screen and inputs works after this but
>>>until next click. This happened after every 1-3 opening of the drawers.
>>
>>Put C:SetPatch back in your s:Startup-sequence and leave it there!
>>C= know why they put it there.
>
>>	|   Peter Urbanec    s1013734@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au   |
>
>Sorry, it has nothing to do with SetPatch.. The problem is:
>TADAA! faulty CIA .. If you exchange them, you have a faulty system time..
>
>  //  Pasi 'Albert' Ojala                 //
> // po87553@cs.tut.fi  albert@cc.tut.fi  //

Well, I had come accross two systems in the past, both had the same problem.
With the first one we immediately went for CIAs, which were the most likely
candidates. Replacing BOTH of them with brand new ones didn't help. We even
tried swapping Paula and Denise, but no success. Then I whacked in SetPatch
from the 1.3.2 distribution and everything was fine again.

With the second system I went for the SetPatch straight away and the problem
disappeared immediately.

Still nothing to do with SetPatch????

Peter Urbanec				  peteru@hydra.maths.unsw.oz.au
University of New South Wales		s1013734@cs.unsw.oz.au
Sydney, Australia
		The only sin is stupidity  - Machiavelli
From: Metin_Savignano@turttwo.tynet.sub.org (Metin Savignano)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Need Help - 50 Hz flickers
Date: 27 Jul 92 02:54:35 GMT
Organization: TurtleSystems II, Stuttgart FRG

In a message dated Fri 24 Jul 92  7:00, Ludde@hemul.nada.kth.se (erik Lunde
wrote:

>>it's PAL, so it's 50 Hz, so it flickers! What can I do?

>If it is 50Hz, it does not flicker.. But as everybody knows, it is 25Hz.
:-)

 LL> It does definitely flicker at 50 Hz...

>50Hz doesn't flicker here, but you just might be an extraterrestial
being..

 LL> Put a 72 Hz monitor right next to your 50 Hz monitor and compare
 LL> them.
 LL> I'm quite sure you will notice the difference, in favour of the 72 Hz
 LL> monitor.
 LL> I would not use a 50 Hz display for longer periods, unless I'm forced
 LL> to.
 LL> Luckily, I'm not.

That's oh so true! After I finally managed to switch to 60 Hz, I cannot
understand how I ever could stand to work with 50 Hz for longer than 5
minutes!!


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