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From: raja@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Malur Ra Rajashekhar)
Subject: Re: Bangalore: A Nostalgic Perspective (Part 2)
Followup-To: raja@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
Summary: V.B. Bakery
Keywords: Bangalore, Bangalore, Bangalore, ...
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:33:38 GMT

Rahul, that was a good one on Bakeries. 
Well coming from Visveshwarapuram, the first bakery to come to my
mind is V.B.Bakery.  If MTR was famous among hotels, V.B.Bakery is 
the best among bakeries. When I was studying in SSVM (Sri Saraswati
Vidya Mandira), we used to get sweet and khara buns from V.B. in the
afternoon (ofcourse, we had to pay). V.B. used to be famous for all
items. Fruit bread, badam burfi, sweet and khara puff(?), Palya bun
(this was too good), dilkush, apple cake, lots and lots of biskattugalu
and etc. Anytime you go there, there will be a lot of rush and getting
something and coming out is really a commendable job ! Ladies had a
special queue and the fortunate ones would send their wives while they
wait near their scooters. 

When I joined college, Butter Sponge opened on vani vilas road opposite
National College. This was supposed to belong to V.B. chain. This was 
better maintained, cleaner and ofcourse a lot bigger than the V.B. Bakery
in Sajjan Rao Circle.

There was one Hassan Iyengar's Bakery near National College, Jayanagar.
This was good for bread-toast.  And ofcourse one bakery on DVG Road used
to be quite good in Congress Kadlekaibeeja (I wonder why it got that name,
anybody with ideas ?) and Hurigaalu. And one at the corner of DVG Road near
National college and one at the other end near Netkallappa Circle (Where
the famous Upahara Darshini is).  These were good for drinking Badami Haalu
in the nights and to have something after late night shows !! 

And the one opposite to Basavanagudi Cooperative Society, used to be good
too. God, so many of them, wonder how they exist ! This one used to be the
destination of a late-evening walk starting from our katte on police station
Road. Sometimes we used to go upto Aatithya, near the end, where one SLV
Lakshmi Venateshwara, used to give great masala soda and masala torino etc
along with chips !! We used to call it ginger soda. It was just great !

We don't know what we have ....... until its gone.......

Malur R Rajashekhar.
From: deepu@abiqui.eece.unm.edu (Pradeep Vittal)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
Subject: Re: PUBS IN BANGALORE
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:37:37 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque


 I dont want to sound very ominous, but there are many chaps in the 
engineering colleges in bangalore who r into grass in a big way. the 
reason being, its cheaper than beer, the chances of detection less remote, etc.
bms college is full of these guys and if at all you want evidence, just 
keep your eyes peeled during utsav. i had friends who used to indulge in this
quite frequently. i dont want to name any specific instance, but i know
for sure there is a lady in 9th block j'nagar (east end) who sells the stuff
for i think Rs 15/-. i have heard my college mates discussing this in the open 
in our college bus (rvce). The engineering college hostels are full of 
this shit. any person who challenges this is living in a fool's paradise.

 I think we should see the writing on the wall. our younger brothers have to
be taught to emulate the good(better?) qualities of western culture.
 
 enough... i seem to have run off at a tangent....
 hope i dont sound like a fossilized fish hook!!

Pradeep

BTW, how many of you discovered the beauty of indian classical music after
coming here?? I am really curious! having gone to a pseudo-sophisticated
school in the pseudo-sophisticated area of bangalore, i was into " hard
rock", "classic rock" etc, though under a blanket term "rock".
just an opinion! i am still into it.....
Looking forward to seeing your opinions....




 
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
From: rvt@pandora.cs.wayne.edu (Rahul V. Tikekar)
Subject: Bangalore: A Nostalgic Perspective (Part 2)
Keywords: Bangalore, Bangalore, Bangalore, ...
Reply-To: rvt@pandora.cs.wayne.edu (Rahul V. Tikekar)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:57:22 GMT

Well, the first article seemed to evoke a good response and
I got to recollect a lot of things I did. When I attended the
St Joseph's college during PUC, I, with my friends, very often
went down Brigade Road. The destination: Nilgiri's or Sweet
Chariot. The pastries were simply delicious!! I haven't been
able to get that kind of cakes anywhere here :-(.

There may have been improvements to UVCE and IISc canteens but
there are people who would not want those places to be any
different from what they were. UVCE canteen sold great vade's
in the mornings. It was the only nice thing they made and I
can't imagine any thing different there.

Anyway, from hotels, I would like to move to another favorite
eating spot: the bakery. Do you remember the numerous
Iyengar's bakeries of Bangalore? Heck, I haven't seen such a
setup anywhere else. Have you passed a bakery during the
afternoon (say 3-4pm)? This is when they bake the things and
the aroma spreads over a couple of blocks and well ...the mouth
begins to water.

Let's see... what do we get there? Well, to begin how about a
nice fresh loaf of milk bread? It's sweet, soft and hot off the
oven. What about those rusks? They taste great when they are
hot. There are so many things in that bakery and you always
have problems deciding what to buy. What about those toasts
with onions, and other stuff spread on them? How about some
hot and spicy buns? How about puffs? All hot and fresh!! If it
is a famous bakery, then most of the stuff is gone in no time. Oh
I forgot those coconut biscuits. Gosh, I love the bakery. There
was a time when I would have given anything to work there.

Now what bakeries did I visit most often? There was one M.B. bakery
on sampige road, right across from that Bata store. It was good. There's
one called the Iyengar's bakery (I know, they are all called Iyengar's
bakery) near Bhashyam Circle. That guy had a mechanical slicer way back
when most other bakery guys sliced the bread with a knife.
IISc has a bakery now but soemhow I didn't find it a bakery kind of
bakery (you know what I mean).

Now, UVCE did not have a bakery near by so our favorite place, as Sanjay
pointed out, was Trupti. That was a nice change from Kamat.
There is also another Iyengar's bakery near MES college. It's in the basement
of some shopping complex. Now I didn't go to MES, so I don't have very
fond memories of it, but I do remember that apart from the traditional
bakery item, we also got some good Bhel.

Ah! bhel puri, pani puri, kachori... Now, that's a new article right there!!

-- Rahul
From: srao@beany.austin.ibm.com (Satish Rao)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
Subject: Re: Bangalore : A Nostalgic Perspective (Part 2)
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:30:38 GMT
Organization: "Personal Systems Programming, IBM Austin"

In article <1992Nov6.193338.7779@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> raja@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Malur Ra Rajashekhar) writes:
>Well coming from Visveshwarapuram, the first bakery to come to my
>mind is V.B.Bakery.  If MTR was famous among hotels, V.B.Bakery is 
>the best among bakeries. When I was studying in SSVM (Sri Saraswati
>Vidya Mandira), we used to get sweet and khara buns from V.B. in the
>afternoon (ofcourse, we had to pay). V.B. used to be famous for all
>items. Fruit bread, badam burfi, sweet and khara puff(?), Palya bun
>(this was too good), dilkush, apple cake, lots and lots of biskattugalu
>and etc. Anytime you go there, there will be a lot of rush and getting
>something and coming out is really a commendable job ! Ladies had a
>special queue and the fortunate ones would send their wives while they
>wait near their scooters. 

 Food tasted even better knowing that the VB bakery's owner was helping
 all those kids who worked there get an education. Ummm those apple cakes,
 and benne biscuits.  Being from VV puram, I am sure you have had the
 good fortune of having eaten kaali dose at Gopala Krishna Bhavan, and
 (Gadi) Krishnappa's Menasina kai Bonda, Shivanna's Soda!

   Inspite of having grown up in the neighbourhood of MTR,  I think
 Mysore's Mylari hotel's Idlis and doses beat MTR by miles, especially
 if you have bicycled all the way from JCE campus.

 A question which has always bugged me - How come Karnataka's trade mark
 Vangi bath has a Tamil Name?  Is it because of all the Diwan's from
 Madras we have had?

 I was surprised to see so much activity in this net over food and finally
 saw some protest kinda posts. Let only those haven't enjoyed a
 great masale dose cast the stones but I'll be on my way to Bangalore
 for the great Avarekai Cook off.
-- 
  Satish Rao			Consultant, cmdinstl
  512-838-3428                  Internet:srao@beany.austin.ibm.com
                                Vnet: S25499@ausvm6
  Neither IBM nor Princeton share or back the opinions expressed here
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
From: naveen@Autodesk.COM (Naveen Chandra)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
Subject: Just looking
Keywords: none
Date: 7 Nov 92 00:10:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA



   Did you ever graduate from the following schools in Bangalore. 

   Sudarshan Vidhya Mandir, Jayanagar.
   Aurobindo Memorial School, Banashankari.
   National College, Basavanagudi. 80 - 82
   Bangalore Institue of Technology, Basavanagudi.

   Just trying to see if there is anybody out there I know of.

   Also if you are from Jayanagar send me note.


-naveen
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
From: raja@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Malur Ra Rajashekhar)
Subject: Re: Re : Bangalore - A nostalgic retrospective 
Followup-To: raja@cevax2.ce.jhu.edu
Summary: Upahara Darshiniyalli Shavige Uppittu - ee dinada special !!
Keywords: karnataka cuisine, restaurants 
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:39:48 GMT

In message-ID: <1992Nov5.212728.28704@seas.smu.edu>

Sanjay writes :

  "Sapna ( near Rex) - Tops for Rave idli. "
 -This is actually opposite Galaxy; but just opposite to Rex on the
  Brigade road, there is one Ranganatha Cafe, where bondas were just great !

 "Janata ( 8th cross and Sampige, Malleswaram) - this is the best for 
                                                  vades."
 -I believe this is good for dosas as well; especially uttappam 

  "There is some new restaurant on Residency road - I have forgotten 
  the name ( what's happening to me !) - masala dosa."
 - are you talking about Shanbhag cafe  ? or is it Konark ?
       
 "Trupthi  - ( behind good ole UVCE on Nrupathunga road) - Puris."
- I have had the best tea at Trupti.
 
       MTR - good in everything ?
 - Its just the name. The 'shettys' from 'shettara palya (vishveshvarapuram)
  used to jog in lalbhag and queue up at MTR !! Unless you've booked the
  table, you get sick waiting for one and however good it is, I feel its 
  not worth waiting like that. One good thing about it is that the kitchen
  is kept very clean and anybody can visit it. 

"I am hoping to hear what others have to say." 

 - other restaurants which come to my mind are Upahara Darshini on DVG Road
   which has become famous for Shavige Uppittu (sh ha....), Vidyarthi Bhavan
   on Gandhibazaar main road for Masale Dose and Rave vade, Dwaraka Hotel on
   Bull Temple Road for khali(?) dose, Shalini Hotel in 5th Block, Jayanagar
   and Gurudarshan (3rd Block circle) for tea.

   anybody from South Bangalore to respond ??

  Chalukya near telephone
   exchange (high ground police station ?) also had good masale !

   "I also heard that the UVCE canteen has improved
     This is too much ! "

 - I can't believe this !!

Malur R Rajashekhar.
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
From: kencham@centi.cs.umn.edu (Deepak)
Subject: Re: PUBS IN BANGALORE
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:32:32 GMT

In <9211101518.AA20874@mik.uky.edu> mhiri01@mik.uky.edu writes:

[ Tons of crap regarding pubs in Bangalore, expunged ]

What are these two blokes trying to tell us when they list the N pubs
in Bangalore ? Its given B'lore a lot of popularity amongst the youth
(unwanted) and is sure the screw up the general 'image' of B'lore.

So guys, go drown yourselves in beer etc., but don't drag B'lore along
with you !

>    YOU CAN'T TRUST A MAN WHO DOESN'T DRINK.

Take a suck !

\thee puck
--
(Etokesoh-Anammahcnek)-ian at heart.
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
From: krishna@seas.smu.edu (Sanjay Krishna)
Subject: Beer, beer and more beer..
Organization: School of Engineering and Applied Science
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:23:27 GMT



 Beer drinking is a big past time in Bangalore ( and possibly Coorg, Mysore
and Mangalore). My favourite place in Bangalore used to be the Victoria 
House. This might raise a few eyebrows - it is a place on Residency road
past Galaxy theatre and I think it is where the road merges with the other
road - oh yeah, M.G Road.( I have a map of Bangalore and must check this 
up ! things are getting hazy after driving around a lot in Dallas). 

Anyway I started liking Victoria house visa vis THE PUB on account of two 
reasons. THE PUB started having just too much of smoke - you just do not 
need a cigarette when you get into that place it is filled with smoke and 
I hate smoke. The other reason is the girls who did come occassionally 
with us prefered the more sober surroundings in Victoria house. The Victoria
House also used to give those groundnuts with onions and kothambri (celanthro)
which was just ideal. It beats the cashewnuts and stuff we get here when 
you drink it with good ole UB. 

I hated Ramada. I don't know -maybe I just wasn't in the mood and they did
not ( at least were not) sell UB. I also liked a place that was pretty close
to home - some place in Mekhri circle. ( I can't believe I have forgotten 
all these names !!). 

I personally prefer UB over London Pilsner, Kalyani etc. But there was one 
brand which my father's friend in IISc - Prof Narsimhan ( Naccha) used to get
which I really enjoyed. He had the best "uncle-aunty" parties - I guess
since there was always a lot of beer !. 
 
When I went back to India the last time in 1990 - my cousin Gouri ( who is 
an ABCD) said she wanted to see some pub in B'lore. I took her to THE PUB
and what a sad scene ! Here was a place filled with pseudo-Bangaloreans. 
( I do not intend to anger anyone - but there are too many tourists in 
Bangalore who think its cool to hang out in the PUB and smoke). 
Anyway the whistling and leering was too much for Gouri and we left. I heard
that THE PUB had a separate place for girls ! If it is true - then one of
the two must have happened - i) we can't see it with all that smoke ! 
ii) It is a hype  built to a point beyond reality. 

I know I am biased and outdated in many of my comments. Maybe some new 
kids on the block can update us. 

Sanjay 

ps - the music in THE PUB has also changed. Gone are the days when classic 
rock - Traffic, Yes, Dire Straits, Doors, Grateful Dead etc used to be played
they now place just third rate pop stuff - Micheal Jackson, George Micheal  
etc. 

Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
From: msunkum@eng.clemson.edu (madhvsudhan sunkum)
Subject: hotels
Reply-To: msunkum@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:13:05 GMT


After reading the discussion on hotels in Bangalore, I feel we all really miss 
something concerning food in U.S.
About Bharat Cafe in Jayanagar, it is still open. I hope all of u remember the
great masala and chocolate tea served there. Another great place u have all missed
is Pavithra Hotel in Jayanagar 4th Block. The vadas, idlis and sambar made it
the most popular hotel in South Bangalore in the last 2 years.U have also missed many 
hotels in Jayanagar and Basvangudi area  like Shantisagar,Aatitya etc.. 
Ahh! As all of u say they were good old days when we use to hang around in Jayanagar
shopping complex after having idli,vada in pavithra. 
madhu

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From: niki@sol.acs.unt.edu (Belathur Prashanth)
Subject: HOW ABOUT "THE PUB" SCENE IN BANGALORE
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:56:48 GMT


Hi Netters !

Lets start "PUB-TALK" thats also unique to Bangalore right.???

so waiting for ur comments !!!

No flames please...

Regards.

NIKI 
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
From: raja@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Malur Ra Rajashekhar)
Subject: Re: PUBS IN BANGALORE
Followup-To: raja@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
Keywords: pav-bhaji
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:20:09 GMT

sudhi writes about the man in front of national high school making
all kinds of kadle poories. but the one kencham referred to was not
this man. he is the one in front of, rather by the side of mahila seva
samaj. his pav-bhaji was just great. many times this fellow was stopped by
police as a big crowd used to collect everyday disturbing the quite
neighbourhood and causing a bit traffic problems (i wonder though,
considering the traffic that used to pass on that road). but each time
he used to reappear, probably after having bribed (rather having paid
'fines' !) them.  

have anybody heard of 'shivannana angadi' on diagonal road, v.v.puram
and 'subbammana angadi' on DVG road. 'subbammana angadi' is famous for
exporting kodbale, chakkli, kadlekaibeejas, mensina pudis etc, to USA
for/from basavanagudi boys.

Malur Rajashekhar
From: dinesha@bass.bu.edu (Dinesh Venkatesh)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
Subject: Re: Re : Bangalore - A nostalgic retrospective
Date: 6 Nov 92 07:41:32 GMT
Organization: Boston University
In-reply-to: krishna@seas.smu.edu's message of 5 Nov 92 21:27:28 GMT


I guess you were talking about Veena stores when talking about idlis in
malleswaram.. I do agree that they were ( with his chutney) among the best
idlis I ever ate..

I cannot believe that the UVCE canteen has really improved! btw is it that
dude ramesha who still runs it?

btw if any of you ever visit Mysore, try the galli hotel ( vidyarnyapuram?) for
set-dose... it is a wonderful treat.

Dinesh
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
From: rvt@pandora.cs.wayne.edu (Rahul V. Tikekar)
Subject: Re: Hotels/Karnataka cuisine
Reply-To: rvt@pandora.cs.wayne.edu (Rahul V. Tikekar)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:01:49 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.190843.17846@tamsun.tamu.edu>, ganeshj@cs.tamu.edu
(Ganesh Jayadevan) writes:
> Namaskara,
> 	The discussion on hotels and what is good where 
> was excellent but let me strike a discordant note here.
> It was good till Rahul. T talks about cakes, milk bread etc
> available in Brigades.. I feel this is not part of true
> ethnic Bangalore  which was I understand the theme of
> the discussion.
There has been  some misunderstanding here. It has not been my
intention to write about the cuisines of Karnataka; far from it.
My intention was only to write about some things that are
typical of Bangalore; to recollect some of the events that
happened to me (and to most of us) during my (our) stay there.

Anyway talking of ethnicity, I don't think there is anything
like "true" ethnic. 

-- Rahul




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From: spattabi@mcs213a.cs.umr.edu (Shivaram Pattabiraman)
Subject: Re: Just looking
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 03:53:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla
Keywords: none

          hi guys. i am thinking of preparing a list of all the BMSites in the            US.if i get a good response i will go ahead and do it.i guess it will           usefull to everybody.send me your email and local addresses.of course           tel ph # also.
          i will talk about some fundoo hotels that i know in my next article.            my eamil is spattabi@mcs213a.cs.umr.edu.ph is (314)364-6368                                                                  bye                                            






Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
From: sgs@ucs.usl.edu (Sudhindranath SG)
Subject: Re: Bangalore : A Nostalgic Perspective
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:48:41 GMT

ramprasa@ecn.purdue.edu (Ramprasad Ramakrishna) writes :

>The best Bondas, Pakoras, Chilli Bajjis
>in MALleswara
>was undoubtedly
>the shop on SAMPIGE road 
>opposite the "kadu Malleswara~ temple.
>
>He used to make chaklee, and mixture also.
>ha and KODBELES , (the best Kannadiga thindi)
>Lot of talk about MTR , cleanliness wise they are on tops 
>            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>but otherwise there are lot of other places with better tasting grub.
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Maybe. But as far as coffee is concerned, MTR is, in my opinion,
the unquestioned leader. Really wonderful coffee, even the Gods
would love it...

>
>Bakeries
>Drooooooooooool!!! smack
>Puffs : M>B bakery Sampige road
>Buns(the potato stuffed) : the bakery on 8th main
>

Regards,

--Sudhi.

-- 
*********************************************************************
Sira Gopinath Sudhindranath. 
email : sudhi@usl.edu, sgs@ucs.usl.edu
*********************************************************************
From: ahamad@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
Subject: re:RE:Bangalore-A nostalgic.....
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:51:14 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

hotel baggae post madidhavaru malleshwaram dindha bandhange kanisuthare

u guys forgot the " vidharthi bahvana" yestu jana students
 illi hoguthiddaro yeno, in basvangudi or the ominicent 
"petty angadi" at street corners.

by the way dose any one remember the complete lyrics to this one

                " Baaro thandaye, devaa karinuso "
haadidha kalividharu " Khantasaara " chitara bedara kannappa
From: ahamad@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
Subject: Ghattam mattu mridhamgam
Date: 11 Nov 92 13:41:12 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

hi
  I am doing this for a friend
neevagalu yaraa dharu U.S nalli desi musical equipment
siguva kade gotthidare kalage kottiruva address ge post madi
this person is looking for the "ghattam" and "mridangha" in particular

any help in this matter is greatly appreciated

send e-mail to 
Rose@ardneh.rsl.ukans.edu
From: krishna@seas.smu.edu (Sanjay Krishna)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
Subject: Bangarappa resigns - who next ?
Keywords: Chief minister, Karnataka.
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:05:50 GMT
Organization: School of Engineering and Applied Science

Well the dissidents and the press and virtually the whole world have had the 
last word. Chief minister Bangarappa has apparently resigned. I have never 
been involved in the political circus in Karnataka, although developmental 
news always interests me. 

Of the guys left, who will be the chief minister ? If I was the one deciding 
it ( it actually does not matter ), I would pick Siddanyame Gouda Patil, a Lok
Sabha member from Bijapur to be it. He is the one politician who has an 
impenetrable base and solid backing and he will go down well with the cynical 
"intellectual" middle-class. For those who do not know much ( well I too don't
know much) but in 1987 he put together a coalition of farmers, traders and 
co-operatives to construct a barrage to irrigate 3 lakh hectares in Jamalkhandi
taluk in Bijapur district. 

Apparently the project has done so well that there is a sudden spurt in prosperity
and Jamalkhandi ( I might be wrong about the name - I seem to be getting even 
Bangalore names wrong ) has witnessed a boom with the once-perennial water shortage
vanished. 

Sanjay 

I am too caught up with my Ph.d and Cowboys to even read this newsgroup. I enjoyed 
the views from both camps on the beer drinking issue. 

GO COWBOYS ! I MIGHT NOT BE AROUND NEXT YEAR - THIS YEAR AT PASADENA . 
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