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Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #210
Date: 2 Sep 92 01:10:05 GMT
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Info-Mac Digest             Tue,  1 Sep 92       Volume 10 : Issue 210

Today's Topics:

      [*] BELLEROSE, a truetype font
      [*] BungDabba XThangs
      [*] Extensions Manager 1.7 - manage INIT/cdev loading
      [*] Morphanim.cpt.hqx
      [*] speedyfinder7-15.hqx (control panel)
      [*] StuffIt Deluxe 3.0.2 updater
      [*] TidBITS#140/31-Aug-92
      4MB SIMM Prices
      Accelerator for LC [A]
      Annual servicing of Macs (Q)
      data acquisition
      data acquisition (A)
      Dimmer Screen Saver
      Excel 3.0 printing problem (R to A)
      faulty ThoughtPattern file
      French PeeCee Conversion (R)
      Handling of references in Word 5.0
      Hardware Diagnostics
      Human Interface (C)
      internet news readers (A)
      LC speaker problem, again
      Listserv software (Q)
      Mac-like Internet access via modem (3 msgs)
      Mac-like Internet access via modem (R)
      Mac advertising
      MacProducts USA (Info)
      MacWorld E-Mail
      Major problems with desktop, BNDLs (H!)
      More GIF snags?
      multisync VGA + IIsi (R)
      Norton Utilities flames
      Optimal cache size on IIsi w/ MacsBug?
      OzTeX - problems downloading font files.
      Plus with Brainstorm Accel.-- Report
      Quadra 700 Overdrive - reports please!
      Quitting the Finder
      Seeking tech info on 68000
      Sigh...Norton (C)
      startup desk (Q)
      Superdrive problem
      Think Pascal printing routine (Q)...
      ZTerm vs. 19,200 baud

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Date: 31 Aug 1992 11:46:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jason Osborne <V065HJKU@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu>
Subject: [*] BELLEROSE, a truetype font

This is the truetype font BELLEROSE, a funky, art-deco sort of sans-
serif font.  It is a clean, high-quality font which I like very much.

This file has been compressed via compact pro 1.33.

If you want to see what this font looks like before you download it,
and you have downloaded font-preview from sumex, you can see what it
looks like at the bottom center of PICT #2.  If you do not have font-
preview, and are interested in downloading fonts, it will save you
a lot of time and hassle.

This font uploaded courtesy of the Underground Phont Archive.
Jason Osborne
 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Archived as /info-mac/font/tt/bellerose.hqx; 57K]

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 13:30:29 EDT
From: byrne@cc.gatech.edu (Michael Byrne)
Subject: [*] BungDabba XThangs

Mike,

Here's a collection of miscellaneous HyperCard XCMDs & XFCNs from the
people who brought the world the ColorizeHC XCMD.  Highlights are
an XFCN that allows irregularly shaped buttons, an XCMD for converting
PICT files to PICT resouces, an XFCN that does directory searching, and
an XCMD that copies text with style information intact.

Better still, it's FREEWARE!


============================================================
Mike Byrne                               byrne@cc.gatech.edu
Grad student in Psychology/Cognitive Science
25947 GA Tech Station, Atlanta, GA 30332


[Archived as /info-mac/card/x/bunga-dabba-xthangs.hqx; 94K]

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 22:31:45 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: [*] Extensions Manager 1.7 - manage INIT/cdev loading

Extensions Manager is Copyright 1990-92 Apple Computer, Inc. All Rights
Reserved.  by Ricardo Batista.   Central Software Group, MHD.

Extensions Manager and EM Extension are FREE SOFTWARE AND CAN BE DISTRIBUTED
FREELY BY INDIVIDUALS.  For Commercial distribution or bulletin board
distribuition please contact Apple Software Licensing.

EM is distributed "As is" and unsupported by Apple.  Please don't call
Apple for technical support.

		       QUICK DESCRIPTION:

Extensions Manager allows you turn "off" or "on" the code that executes
at startup in certain "extension documents" such as Control Panels,
Chooser devices and INITs (known before as startup documents).

With System 7.0 there are a few folders where system extensions can be
located, therefore the old style "INIT Managers" do not work well.

			    FEATURES

Extensions Manager is made with System 7.0 in mind.  The main features of
Extensions Manager are:

1)      System 7 folder structure aware. Still compatible with system 6.0.x
2)*     You can add and remove your own file types.  This is very useful for
	adding other file types which you consider extend your system
	such as debuggers and aliases.
3)*     Extension sets.  Extension sets allow you to quickly enable or disable
	a colletion of extensions for which you have given a name.  Sets
	consist
	of a name and a number of file types.  Therefore the name of an
	extensio
	can be changed without having to recreate a set and without worrying
	abo
	the location of an extension.
4)*     The Startup Items folder is now included in EM.  The standard alias
type
	for applications has also been included so you can prevent
	applications
	from starting automatically whenever you want to.
2)      Context sensitive help in all dialogs. (aka Balloon Help)
3)      Icons do not get lost when disabling a system extension.
4)      Updated as nessesary. (while makes sense)
5)      System 4.2 to 7.0 compatibility


1.7             Compatible with At Ease 1.0
		EM does not close any extension files that were already open.
		Versions 1.6 was special casing a few extensions.
		The PopUp menu now works on 68000 based machines at startup
		time.

[Archived as /info-mac/cp/extensions-manager-17.hqx; 27K]

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 18:06:00 HST
From: Christopher Zane <czane@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu>
Subject: [*] Morphanim.cpt.hqx

Here's another QuickTime movie that a friend of mine made.

Morphanimation

Press Shift-Play to loop movie.  Created using Stratavision 3D, Morph, and
MacroMind Director.

Enjoy!

[Archived as /info-mac/art/qt/morphanim.hqx; 113K]

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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 11:02:47 EST
From: mjlowe@acacia.ccsd.uts.edu.au (-s92080391-m.lowe-ele-60-)
Subject: [*] speedyfinder7-15.hqx (control panel)

- SpeedyFinder7 will speed up the Macintosh System 7.0, 7.0.1 or 7.1 Finder
  when copying files by using an optimal amount of Process Manager
  (MultiFinder) memory. You will find that copying will seem more sensible

- SpeedyFinder7 will eliminate those annoying zoom rectangles - they're nice
  but slow on low-end Macintosh models.

- It will paste over the Finder's drawing of floppy disc icons to show both
the
  format and "locked" state. If the floppy is hardware locked then a little
  black dot appears in the lower left-hand corner. Version 1.4.2 saw the
  addition of colour floppy disc desktop icons.

- It installs a "Quit" selection in the Finder "File" menu (optionally
attached
  a command key shortcut Cmd-Q as well as attaching a command key shortcut
  Cmd-M to "Make Alias".

- Aliases can be resolved automatically with the "Alias Resolving feature".
  This feature is invoked by holding down the "option" key when selecting
  either the menu bar for "Get Info" or "Find...". The "Get Info" selection
  will become "Get Original Info" and the "Find..." selection will become
  "Find Original".

- The "Empty trash on option-drag" feature will automatically delete all files
  option-dragged to the trash in the Finder as if you had selected
  "Empty Trash" immediately.

System 7 dependant.
Requires Compact Pro to decompress.
Author: Victor TAN.


[Archived as /info-mac/cp/speedy-finder7-15.hqx; 27k]

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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 02:14:06 EDT
From: Leonard Rosenthol <leonardr@ccs.itd.umich.edu>
Subject: [*] StuffIt Deluxe 3.0.2 updater

This StuffIt archive contains all the files needed to upgrade StuffIt
Deluxe version 3.0.1 to version 3.0.2. It is recommended that all users
of StuffIt Deluxe 3.0.1 upgrade to the 3.0.2 version. If you are a user
of StuffIt SpaceSaver only, you should download the StuffIt SpaceSaver
1.0 to 1.0.1 updater.

StuffIt Deluxe 3.0.2  corrects some bugs and improves performance. The
files included in this archive are:

% Deluxe 3.0.2 Read Me
% Compression Extension
% Mail Extension
% CompactPro Translator
% StuffIt Converter
% Magic Menu Updater
% StuffIt Engine Updater
% StuffIt SpaceSaver Updater
% Viewer Engine Updater
% StuffIt Deluxe Updater

Leonard Rosenthol                 Internet: leonardr@ccs.itd.umich.edu
Aladdin Systems, inc.

[Archived as /info-mac/util/stuffit-deluxe-302-updater.hqx; 367K]

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 21:34:55 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: [*] TidBITS#140/31-Aug-92

TidBITS#140/31-Aug-92

 First, the mundane but useful, with an important tip for Excel
   users, a clarification about Conflict Catcher, a new 32-user
   license for A/UX, and a report of the imminent demise of the
   Portable battery supply. Following that comes the cool stuff, a
   neat in-ear speaker and microphone (i.e. telephone) that works
   via bone conduction, some MacDraw Pro 1.5 speed benchmarks, and
   Microsoft and Tandy's answer to Commodore's CDTV.

Topics:
    MailBITS/31-Aug-92
    Excel Workbook Backup Tip
    Conflict Catcher Article Conflicts
    A/UX... More Is Better?
    Portable Battery Bye-Bye
    Norris Ear PHONE
    MacDraw Pro Speed Comparisons
    Windows Does CDs
    Reviews/31-Aug-92

[Archived as /info-mac/digest/tb/tidbits-140.etx; 27K]

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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:20 EDT
From: M94JHINSON@Ruby.VCU.EDU
Subject: 4MB SIMM Prices

A few weeks ago someone posted a note to the digest saying that he had
purchased 4MB SIMMS for the MAC at $89.67 each from a company called Chip
Merchant. I'm wondering if anyone else knows anything about this company,
where it's located and how can reach them; I'm not able to get in touch with
the original post-er. Also write if you know of even better or similar pricing
elsewhere.
							--Greg Hinson

------------------------------

Date: 01 Sep 1992 12:30:10 +1200
From: "matt n." <clas005@csc.canterbury.ac.nz>
Subject: Accelerator for LC [A]

Graeme Forbes asks about accelerating his LC. I have the DayStar
Cache, the middle one (40MHz), with fpu, and am supremely happy. And
I don't care who knows it.

Dunno about your other question (can you stick an fpu by a different
manufacturer into the DayStar or whatever) but I bet the accelerator
makers could tell you.
 --------
matt neuburg, phd = clas005@csc.canterbury.ac.nz

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 21:01:33 PDT
From: jbthoo@ucdavis.edu ( John Thoo )
Subject: Annual servicing of Macs (Q)

Hello, folks--

This is almost certainly a FAQ, so I apologise for asking, but I would
really like to know the answer to my question.  So here goes:

  Recently, a friend of mine mentioned that he was taking his Macs
  to Campus Computing for their ``annual cleaning and servicing.''
  He said that Macs need periodic cleaning and tuning up (whatever
  that means).

  My question is, should I also plan on having my Mac cleaned and
  serviced on an annual basis?  And what about my keyboard, etc?

  I've been using my Mac for 2+ years now, and have never brought it
  in for such a tune up.

Thanks much for your help.

--John.
<jb2@math.ucdavis.edu>

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 10:05:36 EDT
From: Tom Coradeschi <tcora@pica.army.mil>
Subject: data acquisition

michael.odonnell@who.cc.trincoll.edu writes:
>Does anyone have experience using Macs for data acquisition in science
>teaching labs?  I am trying to get as much info as possible, and am
>starting with no experience in this area.
>
>We would be using the computers in cardiology labs (EKG, myograph
>transducers, blood pressure), biochemistry labs (spectrophotometers), and
>physiological ecology labs (pH meters, oxygen meters, temperature, etc.).
>The computers would get heaviest use in the freshman laboratories.
>
>Is LabView 2.2 from National Instruments the way to go? I've seen other
>data acquisition products advertised, usually through the biological supply
>companies (most recently MacPacq -- on its own or interfaced with a
>Lafayette minigraph). We need something that's easy to set up (I'm not a
>programmer) and easy to use (again, my limitations and those of freshmen).

IMHO, LabVIEW is probably the best bet you've got. The user interface
is very (VERY) Mac-like, and the acquisition and analysis capabilities
it brings to bear are outstanding. Support is a toll-free call away,
and there's an Internet mailing list in place to support you (separate
>From NI tech support, I might add.)

>Which Mac is best for these uses -- Classic? LC? II?

I'd suggest a IIsi as a minimum. One thing you find with the Classic
(or any 9" monitor-based machine, like my SE/30:-{) is that the screen
is really too small for what you'd like to do. Get some horsepower, as
well (it never hurts).

>If using LabView, which hardware is best -- Lab-NB? NB-MIO-16? Basically,
>how does one decide?

I don't know, as our applications here are GPIB and CAMAC based. You
can call the folks at National Instruments, or post a query to the
Info-LabVIEW mailing list.

And since I've mentioned the Info-LabVIEW list twice now (once by
name, and once by inference), let me plug it briefly:

Info-LabVIEW is an Internet mailing list, which has been established
as a source of information for users of (or anyone just interested in)
National Instruments' LabVIEW package. Questions may be emailed to
<info-labview@pica.army.mil>. Administrative matters (eg subscription or
deletion requests) go to me at <info-labview-request@pica.army.mil>. The
list is a simple remailer, so questions and answers go out as quickly
as they are received, minimizing turnaround time, etc.

There are 203 active addresses on the list right now, some of which are
redistributions at other sites. {I've picked thru the address file and
found readers in (aside from the US): Canada, United Kingdom, Netherlands,
Spain, Sweden, New Zealand, Norway, Australia, Germany, Switzerland, Israel,
France and Taiwan.}

		tom coradeschi    <+>    tcora@pica.army.mil

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 10:54:44 EST
From: Daniel L. MacIsaac <danmac@physics.purdue.edu>
Subject: data acquisition (A)

>>Does anyone have experience using Macs for data acquisition in science
>>teaching labs?  I am trying to get as much info as possible, and am
>>starting with no experience in this area.
>
>We have a product that might fit your needs, the CNX Common Sense Node.
>It has:
>4 analog inputs, 0-5 Vdc, 8 bit resolution
>1 analog output, 0-5 Vdc, 8 bit resolution
>8 discrete I/O ports, TTL compatible, 5Vdc, 25 milliamps output

We use 15 Macs with homebrew HW to teach 2100+ freshmen/year 1st year Physics
for engineering, and I can share curriculae/descriptions for free to anyone
interested.  Just ask; I've been grad-studenting on this topic for an
excessive length of time.  Needless to say, we use mechanics type sensors
(SONAR, photogates, angular encoders).

Everyone and his dog has HW for sale to acquire data for serial ports for
Macs & PCs (this is dead easy, cheap); the hard part is finding HW with
accompanying tested curricular materials.  The best I have seen was developed
with NSF funds, and is available for a song from David Verniers' company
VERNIER SCIENTIFIC, (503) 297-5317 for a catalogue; I don't have his mcimail
address handy. His HW box is listed at $350, without sensors.

If you have the $$ to do it the easy way, you should check out National
Instruments LabVIEW HW & SW.  This is the research-grade standard package
here at Purdue for the Mac in Physics & Biology (Chem is still IBM).  Dr
Robert Full, UC Berkeley teaches a junior-level course in Biological
research using labVIEW -- he has lots of interesting stuff, and has published
some of the resulting student/instructor research.

Do shop around lots.  (Sorry, Kee  :^) -- though the Localtalk twist does
sound nifty)

Dan MacIsaac, Grad Student in Science Ed & Physics, danmac@physics.purdue.edu

------------------------------

Date: 1 Sep 92 07:59:28 U
From: "Tom Scott" <tom_scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu>
Subject: Dimmer Screen Saver

		       Subject:
		       Dimmer Screen Saver
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 9:46:44 MST
From: DWANDERER@MRSVAX.MIS.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Looking For Dimmer Screen Saver

A while ago, I saw a simple screen saver that "only" dims your screen upon
inactivity.  Does anyone know where to locate this cp or ex?

Thanks

DWANDERER@mis.arizona.edu
__________________________________________

Try sumex:  info-mac/util/ad/dim-watts.hqx


 From the desk of:
Tom Scott

 Cornell University

 Carpenter Hall Annex
 Phone: (607) 255-0966
 Tom_Scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:26:49 PDT
From: "Don W." <webbd@CCVAX.CCS.CSUS.EDU>
Subject: Excel 3.0 printing problem (R to A)

That's "reply" to Mike Dustan's "answer."  Well, I'd tried
Page Setup any number of times without success; the entire
spreadsheet was compressed into a microdot or microcell in
Page Preview and on paper.

I'd pretty much resigned myself to rebooting without extensions
and printing with a naked Mac, as it were, since Page Preview
did show up correctly when the extensions were off.

Last night, though, with no change in extensions, I called up
Page Preview to show somebody how I was being afflicted by
a micro-weirdness when what before my startled eyes should
appear but a full-sized spreadsheet and no tiny reindeer.

Prints good, too.

Maybe posting the query was a magical equivalent to "squirkling"
some "Squunk Water" on the bug.  Uh.. Mike.. what is "Squunk
Water," anyway?  A place?  (Not in B.C.!)  Or a lure that
Elmer Fudd uses to try to nab Buggs Bunny?

Don W. -- DonWebb@CSUS.EDU

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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 08:37:59 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: faulty ThoughtPattern file

In Regards to your letter <199209010003.AA15289@nwnexus.wa.com>:
> Hi again. I downloaded the thought-pattern.hqx file from info-mac/demo
> again and found it to be faulty again in the same way.
>
> I get a CRC ($7A29) eror in Binhex.

Sounds like a bad file - why don't you drop Bananafish a line and
let them know.

  bananafish@aol.com

cheers ... -Adam

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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 18:10:56 -0400
From: "Keith E Gatling" <kgatling@mailbox.syr.edu>
Subject: French PeeCee Conversion (R)

Here's a possible solution to Robert Front's <T121267@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw>
friend's problem with lost or mangled accented characters.

One trick I use when I'm converting stuff from one format (usually
mainframe) to Mac is to put certain homemade codes in places where I might
want to do a certain type of global replace.  The most frequent use I have
for it comes, as I said before, when dealing with text files downloaded
>From a mainframe.  These usually have a return at the end of every line
and either two returns or a return and five spaces at the end of every
paragraph.  What I do to convert this to standard "return only at the end
of a paragraph" format is this (I, of course, assume you're familiar with
how MS Word encodes paragraph returns (^p)):

     1.  Do a global replace of ^p^p (or ^p ^p) to @2@ (my personal code
	 for double return.

     2.  Do a global replace of ^p to space.

     3.  Do a global replace of @2@ to ^p (or ^p^p).

Now what does this have to do with your friend's problem?  Well seems to
me that while on the PC she could (working, of course, on a COPY of the
file, but we all knew that) use something akin to the same trick.
Globally change all instances of accented character 1 to @1@, character 2
to @2@, character 3 to @3@, ad nauseum, and then transfer the file to Mac
format.  Then once it's on the Mac, globally change @1@ to accented
character 1 and so on.  Of course, this means she'll have to keep track of
her character assignments, but it should work.

keg

* Keith E Gatling                                  kgatling@mailbox.syr.edu *

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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 14:18:51 +0200
From: Johan Swahn <tffjs@fy.chalmers.se>
Subject: Handling of references in Word 5.0

At our institute we use Word 5.0 when we write articles or reports. There
have been requests for the possibility to use a bibliographic tool that
uses a database of references that can easily be imported into a Word
document. Can anyone who has experience of such use using EndNote Plus
or WordRef or other utility with Word 5.0 drop me a line with a short
note on their functionality.

tffjs@fy.chalmers.se (Johan Swahn)

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Date: 1 Sep 92 08:00:18 U
From: "Tom Scott" <tom_scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu>
Subject: Hardware Diagnostics

		       Subject:
		       Hardware Diagnostics
Date: 27 Aug 1992 11:42:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tom Crone <CRONE@CUA.EDU>
Subject: Diagnostic software

	I saw in the recent MacWarehouse catalog a diagnostic package called
	Snooper.
Has anyone used this?  Does anyone know of any better systems?
	We have about 15 Macs (mostly original Mac IIs and SE30s) that we are
	trying
to maintain inhouse.

Tom Crone       Bitnet: CRONE@CUA   Internet: CRONE@CUA.EDU

 -----------------------------

I, too, would like people's opinions on hardware diagnostic software.  So far,
I'm aware of Snooper and MacEKG.  How useful are these programs?  What are the
good and bad points of using these software packages?  Concerning Snooper,
what
added benefits do you get with the additional NuBus board?

Please post to Info-Mac, for the benefit of everyone, but also CC: a copy to
me
directly.  I'd like to get one of these packages soon, and sometimes I get a
bit behind in reading I-M.  Thanks!

 From the desk of:
Tom Scott

 Cornell University

 Carpenter Hall Annex
 Phone: (607) 255-0966
 Tom_Scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu

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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 08:45:22 CDT
From: wadew@mail.auburn.edu (Wade Williams)
Subject: Human Interface (C)

>Insignia's implementation is in keeping with the Apple Human Interface
>Guidelines.  An additional dialog annoying the user over such a trivial
>inconvenience as clicking the zoom box again would be much more intrusive.

Zooming a window so that part of it does not appear on the screen is in no
way in keeping with the Human Interface Guidelines.  Insignia deserves what
criticism it gets on this one.

Wade Williams
Academic Computing Services, Auburn University
wadew@mail.auburn.edu

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 23:54 EDT
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <JNeedleman@MCIMail.com>
Subject: internet news readers (A)

In 10-209, Robert P. Andris explains that although he can connect through
SLIP to his internet access supplier netcom.com, that supplier has no NNTP
server with which he can connect. What to do?

Well, you might consider switching access providers. It's a competitive
field these days, and many of the providers do provide NNTP servers for
you. I actually signed up with msen.com today and was pleased to find that
its news server has over 2,000 groups available which I can access easily
with Nuntius (which I prefer to Newswatcher). As I mentioned yesterday in
10-209, you can find a number of providers of Internet services in a file
at liberty.uc.wlu.edu named:
/pub/lawlib/internet.access.

If you are actually assigned your own IP address when you connect to
netcom.com (rather than a shell account), you can hook up to any NNTP
server that allows you to do that. The most well-known such server is
sol.ctr.columbia.edu, which lets anyone on the Internet access its new
server. I've found a few others by just examining the header information of
posts on Usenet; you can often locate the name of the news server doing the
posting and then attempt an NNTP connection. Usually you'll be rejected
(and rejection really hurts, sniff!) but sometimes you find a server that
will let you in.

By the way, Andris mentions MacSlip. I bought a copy last week and so far
find it easy to use and easily adaptable. It took me only ten minutes to
figure out how to modify the sample script to work with my new account at
msen.com. It's a driver for MacTCP1.1, so you can use all your usual MacTCP
software with it installed. It has a list price of $49.95. As always, I was
careful to ask for the best academic discount available when I ordered--and
so I was charged $49.95 plus $4.00 shipping (well, it's always worth a
try). You can get it from TriSoft at 800-531-5170 or FAX 512-473-2122.

The easiest way to prove you are indeed an academic when ordering by phone
is to bitch and moan that the university purchasing system is so screwed up
that it would take months to order it through channels, so although you
hate to do so you are ordering directly even though you have to pay with
your OWN funds and NOT put the purchase on your grant. The person taking
your order has heard this a thousand times before and accepts it as proof
that you are indeed a bonafide academic...even if you're not.
Jeff Needleman  <JNeedleman@MCIMail.com>

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92   9:51 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <RTL%SIVA.BRISTOL.AC.UK@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: LC speaker problem, again

I can certainly testify to the existence of this problem on the LC as well
as the IIsi.  My speaker cuts out incessantly unless I'm at a volume level
of four or higher - and even at four it can be a bit unstable.
However I wouldn't agree with Larry Rymal that the sound quality is great
once you hook your machine up to an external speaker or hifi.  Well, it IS
if you have a Quadra or Mac II (if you've got a Quadra you wouldn't need
an external speaker, the internal is so great), but my LC sounds pretty
muddy coming out of my hifi.  I think it's because the LC (and probably
also the LCII?) only has a mono sound chip which is likely to be technically
inferior to the stereo chips in Mac II's and above.  Just try running some
SoundTrecker music through an LC and compare that with the (stereo) sound
you'll get from a IIsi!  Basically there is no comparison.
By the way, are there any commercial or even shareware games out there
which feature stereo sound effects?

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 17:14:38 BST
From: K.C.Quick@open.ac.uk
Subject: Listserv software (Q)

Perhaps this isn't the right place for this question but does anyone know
where I can get the Listserv code from.

We want to set up an inhouse electronic notice board and this seems to be
the best way to go.

Any help is much appreciated.

Kevin Quick
Computer Support Engineer
The Open University

Mail by Eudora 1.3b46

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 00:18:09 GMT
From: resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu (Pete Resnick)
Subject: Mac-like Internet access via modem

gray@cmgroup.engr.wisc.edu (Gary L. Gray) writes:

>What I would like to be able to do is use programs
>like GopherApp, XFerIt and NewsWatcher to take advantage of a more Mac-like
>interface to to do all of these things.  Is it possible to do that via
>modem?  If so, what additional software do I need?  Is there any additional
>hardware required?  Does anyone have any recommendations?

What you need is SLIP--serial line IP--for the Mac. It is an add-on
module for MacTCP which allows you to dial up a SLIP server and
connect to the Internet. There are three SLIP modules around that I
know of:

MacSLIP by Hyde Park Software
VersaSLIP by the VersaTerm people
InterSLIP by Intercon (not yet released, as far as I know)

The only hardware you need is something on the other end of the modem
line to make the SLIP connection, which could be a UNIX box which
routes SLIP or a terminal server. Check with your local network
people.

pr

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 00:03:25 EDT
From: gasser@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Nathan Gasser ><>  )
Subject: Mac-like Internet access via modem

Anyone interested in Mac-like access to Internet would do well
to track down the August 24th issue of MacWEEK, which has a two
page spread on the Mac and Internet.  A summary, for those w/o MacWEEK:

To get a Mac on the internet over the phone requires either a
serial-line Internet Protocal (SLIP) or Point-to-Point Protocal (PPP)
connection.  The latter is very new, to the point of not being on the market.
I quote "TCP/Connect II... is the premier application for Internet Access."
It'll set you back anywhere from $195 to $495 depending on features.
The program includes Inter/SLIP, to make a dial-up connection.
"To use SLIP, you'll need access to a SLIP host.  Your site may have one
already; if not, you can pay for SLIP access through many public-access
services."

"The $49 MacSLIP, written by Rick Watson, lets you add SLIP support to
MacTCP on your Mac so you can use any MacTCP-compatible application
with a dial-in SLIP connection (for more information, send e-mail to
mac-slip@akbar.cc.utex.edu)."

You know, you've got me thinking about the same thing now...
Anyone using one of these options, or a similar one, have any
comments?  (I hope you have a fast modem :)

Nate.
gasser@eniac.seas.upenn.edu--

Nathan Gasser       ><>
gasser@eniac.seas.upenn.edu

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 0:56:37 CDT
From: Joel E Callan <callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: Mac-like Internet access via modem

On: >Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 12:26:55 CDT
You: >From: gray@cmgroup.engr.wisc.edu (Gary L. Gray)
Stated:

>This may be a FAQ, but I have not found a definitive answer anywhere, just
>allusions to the answer.  I often use a modem with my Mac IIci at home.  I
>am able to login to the UNIX workstations (Sun and HP) at school through
>the modem and do all the command-line UNIX stuff I care to (ftp, finger,
>telnet, email, etc.).  What I would like to be able to do is use programs
>like GopherApp, XFerIt and NewsWatcher to take advantage of a more Mac-like
>interface to to do all of these things.  Is it possible to do that via
>modem?  If so, what additional software do I need?  Is there any additional
>hardware required?  Does anyone have any recommendations?
>
>Thank you.

Well Gary, it seems to depend on the system you connect to (me thinks), if
it supports SLIP, then you can use something like Eudora to get a good
interface, or Fetch for a better interface (from what I've been told, alas,
I am stuck without a SLIP connection here at UW-Milwaukee :-( , but you may
be fortunate enough to have better fortunes).

Why not check with your local computing service division? Those friendly
folks will tell you what is available (or supported by the system). Here
there are several newsreaders available (rn, vn, and possibly one other in
the works, with vn being the "preferred" newsreader ie. suggested by the csd
folks).

As to Gopher, if you have it installed on your system, you can type the
following:   gopher gopher.micro.umn.edu 70
which will take you to the MN gopher site, and be able to read all text
files at the sumex-aim site, as well as transfer files to your home
directory (campus directory) quite easily, and it works without a hitch. Not
exactly a mac-like interface, but what the heck, it's almost idiot proof.

Best of luck, and happy computing.
Joel E. Callan  callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

------------------------------

Date: 01 Sep 1992 08:19:41 -0700
From: Brad_Stone@byu.edu (Brad Stone)
Subject: Mac-like Internet access via modem (R)

>What I would like to be able to do is use programs
>like GopherApp, XFerIt and NewsWatcher to take advantage of a more Mac-like
>interface to to do all of these things.  Is it possible to do that via
>modem?  If so, what additional software do I need?  Is there any additional
>hardware required?  Does anyone have any recommendations?

  I have an Internet connection at home!!

  Let me explain how I have it set up because I think a personal internet
connection at home is the neatest thing to come along in a long time.

  I connect to our campus (BYU) and tie into a SLIP (Serial Line Internet
Protocol) server.  The device we use is called a NetBlazer (from Telebit).
The NetBlazer is a box that provides all kinds of network communications
over telephone lines, and is a nice alternative for leased lines when you
don't need 24 hour connectivity.  Of course you don't need a NetBlazer, but
you do need some sort of SLIP server that has an Internet connection.

  At my home, I have a Mac IIsi with a Supra Fax Modem (v.32bis) which I
use to dial to our campus.  I use MacTCP with a special SLIP driver called
MacSLIP made by Hyde Park Software.  To my TCP/IP applications (like Fetch,
Newswatcher, Eudora, TN3270, Gopher, etc.), it looks just like my computer
has it's own Internet connection because all of these programs access
MacTCP.  The MacSLIP driver takes care of passing these packets over the
telephone line.

  MacSLIP supports header compression, which speeds things up a little bit.
 Header compression takes advantage of the fact that the packet is not
going to take an alternative route from your home mac to the SLIP server,
so it transfers the first packet with the header intact, and the SLIP
server remembers where the packets are supposed to be routed to.  All
subsequent packets are sent with a header of only a few bytes, and the SLIP
server reconstructs the full header on the other end.  The only problem
with MacSLIP is that it only supports speeds up to 38,000 bps.  With a
v.32bis modem, you need 56,000 bps to take full advantage of the
connection, but in reality the extra speed difference is most likely not a
lot.

  I am really looking forward to this fall when the NetBlazer comes out
with AppleTalk Remote Access built in.  This will allow me access to our
AppleTalk network from home, and though the marvels of Personal File
Sharing, I can access  my local hard drive also.  In short, anything I can
access at work, I will be able to access at home.  Pretty neat, eh?

  The NetBlazer will also be supporting remote IPX (for our Novell network)
soon.  BYU will be installing an entire modem pool of v.32 bis modems with
interfaces to the NetBlazer to extend this service to all of it's
employees.

     - Brad Stone
       Computing Support Coordinator
       Brigham Young University

Brad_Stone@byu.edu

BTW, I am writing this message at home using Eudora while Fetch downloads a
program in the background.

Disclaimer:  I have no affiliation with any of the above mentioned
companies (except BYU).

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 08:36:59 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Mac advertising

In Regards to your letter <199209010003.AA15289@nwnexus.wa.com>:
> The current UK issue of MacUser mentions in passing that recent US Mac
> advertising features the statement, "I wanted to make my work simpler, so I
> bought Windows".  I was curious to know the punchline to this assertion - it
> seems to me the more gullible or PC-sympathetic folks out there might take
> it literally and get the wrong idea!

Check out TidBITS#128 for what is at least an approximation of the
text of those ads. They are actually pretty effective, from what I've
heard.

cheers ... -Adam

------------------------------

Date: 01 Sep 92 20:42:38 EDT
From: Charlie Summers <72257.140@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: MacProducts USA (Info)

TO: Info-Mac
SUBJ: MacProducts (Info)

Info-Folks;

In reply to recent questions posed about MacProducts USA, I enclose a copy of
a letter sent this date to the President of the company, David Goldman.

My thanks to all of you for the information I have received from you in the
past; hope this helps anyone unfamiliar with MacProducts USA.

Charlie Summers
L.O.F. Communications

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
1 September 1992

MacProducts, USA
ATTN: David Goldman, President
608 W. 22nd Street
Austin, TX  78705

Mr. Goldman;

Last May, I purchased from your company a Most-based 128MB
Optical Drive with the Magic label.

On 19 August, I discovered some problems with the drive
mounting carts. After running some diagnostic software,
trying different cables, using a different Macintosh, and all
of the other things I would recommend a client try, I phoned
MacProducts USA for warranty service on the 20th. I received
an RMA number, and returned the unit that morning via
overnight. The unit was received by your service department
21 August.

I still do not have the drive.

Your people have been most helpful and kind. It appears the
policies of your company require the unit to be returned to
the drive manufacturer for repair; according to my
conversation with your service tech this afternoon, the drive
should be back to your company sometime next week, at which
point it will be returned to me.

This is absolutely unacceptable. It is obvious your service
policies leave much to be desired. Although I do somewhat
understand your position, it is important that you understand
that your arrangements with Most are irrelevant to me; my
warranty is with you, not with Most. It is quite clear to me
that your warranty repair policy does not consider your
customers at all. After all, you already have the purchase
price...

I have already suffered a loss of income because of
inaccessibility of archived data on MO carts, and considering
that by the time I receive this drive I will have been
working without it for a month, I assume I will lose more. I
can only be thankful this happened to me, and not to one of
the clients I have previously recommended your products to. I
can assure you, I will not make this mistake in the future.

I will not be purchasing hardware/software from your company
in the future, as I cannot afford to purchase from a company
with no concept of service after the sale. I will not
recommend your products to my clients in the future, as I
cannot afford to have your inept warranty policies to affect
my credibility with my clients. I will also inform anyone
interested of this incident, to warn them of your policies.

You may consider this letter an "open letter," as copies will
be distributed electronically on various commercial networks
and the Internet, as well as various Macintosh magazines, and
my company's client base. I believe it is important that
others realize that, although your prices are among the best
in the business, your company policy assumes its
responsibility ends at the point of the sale. Hopefully, this
will allow them to make informed decisions; in my opinion, a
few dollars saved is not nearly as important as service after
the sale.

The only regret I have in not using or recommending your
company in the future is not speaking to your staff. Cecilia,
Thelma, Michael, Jim, and others have been most understanding
and sympathetic in this case, and most helpful in the past. I
can only hope that these fine people find in the future a
company who treats them, and their customers, as well as they
attempt to.

Sincerely,

Charles F. Summers, III

------------------------------

Date: 1 Sep 92 08:00:47 U
From: "Tom Scott" <tom_scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu>
Subject: MacWorld E-Mail

		       Subject:
		       MacWorld E-Mail
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 11:58:15 +0100
From: me@suzuka.u-strasbg.fr (Michel Eytan LILoL)
Subject: macworld & fileguard (q)

can anybody out there give me an e-mail address to MacWorld?

__________________________________________

They've got a CompuServe address:  70370,702
and an AppleLink address:  Macworld1

Hope this helps!    :-)

 From the desk of:
Tom Scott

 Cornell University

 Carpenter Hall Annex
 Phone: (607) 255-0966
 Tom_Scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 01:06:48 CDT
From: "Sendhil Revuluri" <revu@midway.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Major problems with desktop, BNDLs (H!)

Hello again, Info-Mac readers...

I am having a pretty serious problem with my desktop, bndl resources,
and related things.

My copying speed was slowing down a lot, so I tried rebuilding the
desktop.  This just stopped almost exactly halfway through.  The arrow
could be moved but clicking on the "Stop" button had no effect.  An
"es" issued by MacsBug exited through to the Finder.  Rebooting
through MacsBug brought up a hard disk filled with files and
applications with generic icons. Argh!  I suspected bad BNDL bits so I
ran ReBNDLer (by Salient, distributed with AD/DD) and it corrected a
bunch of files' bundle bits.  Rebooting showed that some of the icons,
at least of many applications, were restored.  The docs for ReBNDLer said to
rebuild the desktop after using it, so I did.  The rebuild again froze
halfway through.  I escaped to the Finder with "es" to find that many
of the icons had been weirdly changed.  Many appeared only in b/w even
though I was using 8-bit color.

Running ReBNDLer again fixed a few more files.  Restarting did not fix
the color-drained icons.

Even TeachText documents which display the correct icon cannot be
opened by double-clicking.  However, a few applications still support
drag-and-drop.

What should I do?  Is there any way to successfully rebuild the
desktop?  How?  Am I in danger of data loss?  Is it safe to back up my
hard disk while this problem still exists (and overwrite my previous
backup)?  Help!


Sendhil Revuluri (s-revuluri@uchicago.edu)
University of Chicago

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92  20:38 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <RTL%SIVA.BRISTOL.AC.UK@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: More GIF snags?

It seems it's not only ImageCatalog that doesn't recognise GIF89a.  Neither
does QuickGIF 1.0, an otherwise marvellous GIF viewer with amazing oil-paint
and conical/spherical transforms.  Again if anyone has a more recent version
could they upload it to the archive please?
Also I wonder if anybody has noticed a bug in GIFConverter 2.3b1 (I think
there are a few but this is the one I'm most interested in): basically, I
can't get it to run at all on a IIfx with a 19" Supermac color monitor.  It
just says "a program error has occurred" and quits.  On the other hand,
version 2.2.10 runs fine on that machine.  Any ideas what could be going
wrong?

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 20:15:57 EDT
From: mem@jhufos.pha.jhu.edu (Mel Martinez x8378)
Subject: multisync VGA + IIsi (R)

In infomac v10 # 208 you write:

> I have been following the discussion on how to get a IIsi to talk to a
> multisync VGA monitor.
>
> There was an intriguing post in Digest #196, written by someone who was
> typing his message on such a machine.  On the other hand, many people in
> the last few digests said it's impossible.  I looked everywhere I could
> think of, but could find no documentation on the connection.
>
> Does anyone have the pinout information to make this work?  The machine is
> a IIsi.  The monitor is Multisync 3D (NEC).  It would be great if I could
> get the two to talk, without having to buy :-( another monitor.


Whether it is possible is dependent on whether your monitor can sync to Apple
video scan frequencies.  The IIsi only puts out the standard Apple 13" 640 x
480 video signal so your monitor must be able to sync to:

Dot clock:        30.24 MHz
Vert Scan:        66.7   Hz
Horiz. Scan:      35.0  kHz

This may be indicated in the documents for the monitor or you may try calling
NEC and asking.

If it(the NEC 3D) does support this video mode, then the following pin map
might work:

	Mac                                      VGA(multisync)
Red             2                       1       Red
Green           5                       2       Green
Blue            9                       3       Blue
Red Gnd         1                       6       Red Gnd
Green Gnd       6                       7       Green Gnd
Blue Gnd        13                      8       Blue Gnd
Vertical Sync   12                      14      Vertical Sync
Horiz. Sync     15                      13      Horizontal Sync
Sync Gnd        14                      10      Sync Gnd

If this does not work, try disconnecting the horizontal sync connection(Mac15
to VGA13), and instead tap an extra line from Mac5 into VGA13.  I.E. -
'Sync-on-Green'.  This seems to work more reliably.

Don't be surprised if this does not work well.  I promise nothing.  I have had
mixed success with a variety of monitors.  In general, I would say that even
when I have gotten a VGA monitor to sync up ok, the picture quality is usually
far inferior to a Mac-specific display.  That is changing, however, with the
advent of Windows, which is forcing better video requirements on the PC
market.

This sort of thing is, of course, frowned upon by most warranties.

Mel Martinez
The Johns Hopkins University
Dept. of Physics
mem@jhufos.pha.jhu.edu

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 09:26:05 -0400
From: rarcuri@itsmail1.hamilton.edu
Subject: Norton Utilities flames

In a recent info-mac digest, Maynard Handley says:

> I agree with you completely. I've tried to get Norton to save files
> about three times. Every time I had FileSaver installed, and tried the
> save RIGHT after I trashed the file (and suddenly realized "Oh my God").
> And all three times I saw a long list of files to be resurrected, not
> one of which was what I wanted. Just one more data point in my continual
> disappointment with Norton.

Ever since Norton Utilities 2.0 came out, Mr. Handley has found it
necessary to write into this digest to inform us all of how horrible he has
found the package to be.

I too have written in many times, always in an attempt to refute the bad
rap Mr. Handley has given Norton Utils.  Each and every time, I attempt to
duplicate the problem that Mr. Handley reports.  And I never run into the
same problems he does.

The same holds true for his most recent flame of Norton Utilities.  I tried
doing what Mr. Handley says in the above paragraph twice, once with two
datafiles (Microsoft Word docs) and once with an executable program
(Superpaint).  Not only did Norton recover all three files, (filesaver
active) but they all worked fine, just as if they had never been deleted.

Mr. Handley, I am not writing these things as a flame against you.  I am
writing them because I feel that many of your flames against Norton
Utilities are unjustified.  I can offer no explanation for the numerous
problems you report.  I only know that I do not experience such problems
and that I am very pleased with the package.  This includes SpeedDisk (to
which I have never lost a single byte of data despite some horrendous
operating conditions), Filesaver, and Disk Doctor.  I have little use for
the other parts of the Norton Utilities package, so I am not qualified to
comment on them.

Just another opinion,
Russ Arcuri
rarcuri@hamilton.edu

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:41:30 GMT
From: royappa@athena.mit.edu (A. Tim Royappa)
Subject: Optimal cache size on IIsi w/ MacsBug?

Due to the way the memory chips and video work in the IIsi, it apparently runs
MUCH faster if the cache size is set to some value in the range of 300 -
800k.
However, I remember reading sometime ago that if MacsBug is installed, the
cache size doesn't have to be set quite as high, because of the way MacsBug
loads in memory. What is the optimal cache size (if any) when MacsBug is
installed?

-Tim Royappa
royappa@athena.mit.edu

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 10:55:34 PDT
From: Paulo Irulegui <iru@maxwell.ucsc.edu>
Subject: OzTeX - problems downloading font files.

To all:

Are there problems with oztex font files? After downloading the
pkXXXX.sit files from midway.uchicago.edu with MacKermit, I could not
open them, whether with Stuffit or Compactor. A warning telling me that
the files were corrupted preceded a crash. The same happened with the files
>From giza.cis.ohio-state.edu. I didn't have problems with the others binhexed
files, just with the .sit files. The files are dated 1989. Am I doing
something wrong, or do those files have problems?

Paulo [scippth@slac.stanford.edu]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 11:55:32 CDT
From: PULLMANN%TRINITY.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu
Subject: Plus with Brainstorm Accel.-- Report

Hel-lo everybody.  For all of you who have been holding your breath and
turning blue with anticipation waiting for my report on our accelerated
Mac Plus--here it is!

First, I hadn't forgotten that I promised to let you folks on the lists
know how things worked out.  Our computer center, which did the instal-
lation for us, had a back-to-school backlog of work and just got the
installation completed last week.  Then there was a small delay while the
techs tracked down a problem that was preventing the Plus from booting
with the accelerator installed (turned out to be bad solder joints).

Anyway.  For those who are new or don't remember, we purchased a
Brainstorm accelerator for our Mac Plus a few weeks ago.  We got the
machine back with the accelerator installed today, and all I can say is
*wow*.  Before-and-after performance tests show an average performance
increase of 110.08%.  The decrease in thumb-twiddling time into which
that translates is impressive.

Two things to keep in mind: 1) only SCSI hard disks are supported by the
Brainstorm (even says so in their manual :)).  So if you have one of
the old Apple HD20s, like we did, you'll need to replace it. (We also
have a new Quantum 52 hooked up to this machine, so this was not a
major drawback for us.)  2)  According to our tech-types, this instal-
lation is *not* for amateurs.  (We had already been warned of this
by some of the people who responded to my original post).  It is best
left to qualified experts.  (Brainstorm will do the installation for,
I believe, an additional $50 educational.)

That aside, however, we are so far very pleased and impressed with the
Brainstorm.  Of course, we haven't had time yet to find out if it will
experience compatibility problems or other difficulties in day-to-day
use, but I don't anticipate any major problems. I'll keep you posted if
we encounter any.  My preliminary judgement is, for $149.00 educational
($199.00 with installation), this has gotta be the greatest thing since
sliced bread for anyone trying to get some more mileage from an old Plus.
Heck, according to our performance test results, the accelerated Plus is
anywhere from 1.8 to 4.0 times faster than a Classic, depending on the
particular operation being measured.

For those interested, Brainstorm's address is:

1145 Terra Bella Avenue
Mountain View, CA  94043
415-964-2131
fax 415-964-2135

I spoke to Betty Violette, VP of Sales, when ordering.

Thanks again to everyone who sent me information on this accelerator
back when we were considering whether to purchase it.  Looks like
our decision to go ahead will turn out to be a good one.  Will let
you know of any developments with the accelerator in use.

Pat Ullmann  PULLMANN@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU or PULLMANN@TRINITY (BITNET)

I have no connection with Brainstorm other than that of a happy customer.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92  10:00 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <RTL%SIVA.BRISTOL.AC.UK@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Quadra 700 Overdrive - reports please!

We're in the unusual and happy position of having a bit of spare cash to
dispose of, and the Quadra 700 Overdrive might be just what we're looking
for.  If anybody has received one, I'd appreciate it if they could post a
review (or mail me some comments).  Also, could we buy one from the
States by mail order?  Unlike the Scottish chap who enquired about doing
the same with LC's (issue 209) we probably won't have any option but to try
mail order as I doubt that the Quadra 700 Overdrive will be available here
for a while

------------------------------

Date: 1 Sep 92 08:00:01 U
From: "Tom Scott" <tom_scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu>
Subject: Quitting the Finder

		       Subject:
		       Quitting the Finder
A much safer solution is to use one of the plethora of programs which safely
quit the Finder by sending it a 'quit' AppleEvent. In fact, the utilities
which
add a "Quit" command to the Finder's menus do exactly that: they tell the
Finder to send itself a 'quit' AppleEvent. This is 100% safe because it does
the same sort of thing shutting down does, telling the Finder to safely exit.
_____________________________________________

Can you give us a few "for instance"s for programs that can do this?  Thanks!

 From the desk of:
Tom Scott

 Cornell University

 Carpenter Hall Annex
 Phone: (607) 255-0966
 Tom_Scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu

------------------------------

Date: 1 Sep 92 08:10:59 U
From: "Tom Scott" <tom_scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu>
Subject: Seeking tech info on 68000

		       Subject:
		       Seeking tech info on 68000 family_
EtherFolk:
Anybody have information on the 68000 processor family, or leads
to it?

[...Stuff deleted]

If all else fails, can you recommend a book?

gfink@relay.nswc.navy.mil

 -----------------------------

Try Larry Pina's "Macintosh Repair & Upgrade Secrets".  It contains info on
upgrading  (RAM, ROM, audio, video, drive, SCSI, etc.) and repairing (power
supply, video, keyboard, mouse, board, etc.) Macs from the 128K up to the SE
(it even includes info on the Lisa/Mac XL!).  It's very good.  Larry also does
an updated version (which I have yet to get) entitled "The Dead Mac Scrolls",
which contains upgrade repair info on some of the newer Macs.

Hope it helps!  :-)

 From the desk of:
Tom Scott

 Cornell University

 Carpenter Hall Annex
 Phone: (607) 255-0966
 Tom_Scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 08:45:15 CDT
From: wadew@mail.auburn.edu (Wade Williams)
Subject: Sigh...Norton (C)

>I agree with you completely. I've tried to get Norton to save files about
>three
>times. Every time I had FileSaver installed, and tried the save RIGHT after
>I trashed the file (and suddenly realized "Oh my God"). And all three times
>I saw a long list of files to be resurrected, not one of which was what I
>wanted. Just one more data point in my continual disappointment with Norton.
>My next disk utilities package will NOT be Norton 3.0

I don't know what it is people have against Norton.

I've recovered hundreds of files with Norton and have never experienced the
scenario described above.

I'm not refering to the author above, but I think many people are reading
these negative comments about Norton, then attributing problems they cause
to Norton. Or blaming Norton for something that it just can't do anything
about.

The point is, though MacTools or some other package may have slightly
different features, or may even be better in a certain area, *all*
commercial utility packages are basically the same.  They're all going to
optimize disks, they're all going to recover files, and they're all going
to have something you don't like about them.  Folks, there's nothing
seriously wrong with Norton or MacTools.  They're both solid products.

Wade Williams
Academic Computing Services, Auburn University
wadew@mail.auburn.edu

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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 14:20:02 CST
From: GR4486@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU
Subject: startup desk (Q)

Hi

Few years back there was an init that could make the startupscreen stay in
the background after the mac was booted.  Are there still such kind of
things around so that we can leave the startupscreen there?

Thanks

Jack

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 19:12:39 -0700
From: sekozin@ucdavis.edu (Simon Kozin)
Subject: Superdrive problem

Okay here's a question for some mac techies.

I have an SE/30 (not important but its an upgraded SE), I didn't have
a Superdrive but I got one from a friend (i.e. I didn't buy one from
the computer store when I was having it upgraded).  Now I am having
a slight problem with it.

Many times when I put in an UNLOCKED disk it thinks that it is LOCKED.
This is quite a problem. (luckily I have an old external 800K disk drive
which at least allows me total acces to my 800K disks, but not my HD ones)
Anyway this is very frustrating.  It doesn't actually happen everytime I put
a disk in and usually happens more frequently with high density (it has
major problems with HD disks but is pretty accepting of 800K disks.)
Sometimes I can get it to accept an unlocked disk that it thinks is
locked by ejecting and inserting it several times (usually pushing hard
helps).
 But this is kinda of a pain, especially when unexperienced users
are trying to use my computer like my mom or my roommate (when I'm at
school) because they usually freak out.  I have tried cleaning, lubricating
and pushing the switch up and down with a paper clip.  After lubricating
it one time, it served me problem free for a little while.  I'm tired of
fussing with it and having the hassle associated with it.  Does anybody
know how to fix it?? I am semi-proficient with a sodering iron and know
how to take my computer apart (uuups, thats against the rules.  Oh well)
There is also a good electronics store nearby (not Radio-shack).  If any
body has any good suggestions or a quick fix (that preferably I can do
myself inexpensively) I would greatly appreciate it.  I have taken the
drive out and tried to fuss with it.  The switch seems to be intact with
no loose connections.

Please email me directly and I will summarize to the net.

MANY GRACEOUS THANKS

Simon Kozin

sekozin@ucdavis.edu

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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 08:28:19 CDT
From: "Read my MIPS, No New VAXes - George Bush after sniffing Halon..."
<jorge@VAX1.Bemidji.MSUS.EDU>
Subject: Think Pascal printing routine (Q)...

I wrote an application in think pascal and everything works fine except
printing best quality in an Imagewriter. I can print in a Stylewriter,
Laserwriter in best quality, but if I have to use an Imagewriter then I have
to
do it in draft (and it prints fine...). Any sugestions...

Jorge Fraser
Bemidji State University
Bemidji Minnesota
jorge@vax1.bemidji.msus.edu

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Date: 31 Aug 1992 19:58:29 -0500 (EST)
From: Mark Cornick <STU_M1CORNIC@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Subject: ZTerm vs. 19,200 baud

Hello. We are attempting to use ZTerm 0.9 with a Mac Plus and the University
2000 (IVDM) service at 19,200 baud. Connection is fine, but when we try to
download anything with ZModem, the efficiency is terrible (about 3%) and we
get numerous CRC errors. We have not been able to reproduce this problem on
a Mac Plus using a modem, or on a IIsi using the IVDM connection. Any help
would be greatly appreciated.

please reply to: stu_m1cornic@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
	      or stu_ntmcdowe@vax1.acs.jmu.edu

Muchas gracias,

Mark Cornick/Nick McDowell, James Madison University

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