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From: bse@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Besime Erin)
Subject: Re: writings on mount 5-dactylos
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:57:51 GMT

In article <C1J6K3.Et@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis ) writes:
>c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) writes:
>
>>Varnavas Lambrou asked about the writings on the Mount Pentadactylos
>>and Besime Erin responded:
>
>>> One of them is "Ne mutlu Turkum diyene!" which means: 
>>> "How happy I am to be a Turk!" so its meaning is just that.
>
>>Do you folks mean to say that high in the mountain Pentadactylos
>>there's huge letters (reminiscnent of   H O L L Y W O O D   in
>>Los Angeles) that write out these message(s)? How big are these
>>writings? Distance they can be seen from? etc?
>
> Yes, like "H O L L Y W O O D," only that the letters are bigger;  
> Together with a large Turkish flag painted on the ground, so that
> it can be seen from miles away.
>
> To me, it seems that the only reason for having these symbols are to
> provoke the Greek-Cypriots.  Now imagine how delighted the refugees

Then according to that logic everything that the Turkish Cypriots 
represent is provoking too because it's Turkish. 

How nicely you prove our point, Panos, thank you !


> from the north part of Cyprus feel when they read:"How happy I am
> to be a Turk!"  Or imagine the relatives of the MIO's (1,600+ are 

What's wrong with that ? Is there anything wrong with being proud of
our heritage and writing it any place we want. 

The Greek Cypriots DO NOT OWN the Besparmak(Five Finger) mountains too,
do they ? 

Is that why they BURNT IT before they left in 1974 ? 

[I saw it with my own very eyes in 1974, I mean the smoking,burning trees
 on its slopes]  

> still missing) to have to read the same thing every day.

So what? They are not the only ones. 
We have a lot of missing and dead people too...  

> Wonderfull, isn't it?
>
> A more correct writing would be:"Ne mutlu pezeveng diyene!"
> Which means: "How happy I am to be a pimp!"
>

Apparently you learned a new word as well, how nice ! 

Have fun playing with your wide Turkish vocabulary! 

>>Spiros
>
> Panos Tamamidis

Besime.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek,alt.news.macedonia
From: androut@ecf.toronto.edu (ANDROUTSOS DIMITRIOS)
Subject: Re: Ellemann-Jensen on Macedonia
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:52:11 GMT

In article <C17qGI.1J2@gabriel.keele.ac.uk> cla04@keele.ac.uk (A.T. Fear) writes:
>I wonder what people have to say about Greek claims of EEC unity on the
>Greek stance on Macedonia in light of the following remarks by Uffe
>Ellemann-Jensen:
>
>'I am extremely irritated by this Greek stance because it is tantamount
>to questioning our solidarity as well.  It is ridiculous to believe this
>small, landlocked country [i.e.  Macedonia ATF] is kind of threat.  We
>have felt some kind of hostage, a hostage of the veto right....  I am
>really afraid of how history will judge my contribution and others
>because we have tried to brake recognition of a small independant
>country which has lived up to all the requirements of international law'
>
>The Guardian report by John Palmer goes on to note ' The other EC
>governments privately share the Danish minister's exasperation with what
>they see as a dangerous campaign by Greek politicians to whip up a
>xenophobic popular campaign against Macedonian recognition.'
>
>
>Andy

	It is the HISTORICAL threat that Pseudo-Macedonia poses, that Greece
is the most worried about.
From: Nick Gavrielatos@umd.bitnet (NICK@UMD.BITNET)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: POION NA BRISW RE?
Date: 28 Jan 1993 17:17:08 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Entaksei paidia, euxaristw gia to testing kai tis
sumboules, doulepse to kabourntistiri, kai mporw kai 
stelnw pali. Diabasa orismena, alla den mou anapsan ta
lampakia... poion na brisw re paidia? Gia... rixte kammia
idea...

Nick Gavrielatos
To Sixameno Plasma
NICK@UMD.BITNET
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From: schoinas@fox.cs.wisc.edu (Yannis Schoinas)
Subject: Re: Linovambakoi (Re: Turkish Cypriots reject ENOSIS)
Keywords: Ali Pasas, The King, Makarios, Chrysostomos, Vasiliu, Enosis, Palikaria, Akritas
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:45:43 GMT

bse@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Besime Erin) writes:

>In article <C12Kqz.4C9@news.cso.uiuc.edu> msg7038@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michalis  Syrimis) writes:
>>Regarding the thesis that some Turkish Cypriots are of Greek origin, 
>>linobambakoi, an undisputable fact supporting it is that many Tyrkish 
>>villages had names of Saints.  The one that comes to my mind now is
>>Ayios Nikolas (Saint Nicholas) in the Paphos District, close to Platres
>>and Arsos. 
>>
>>Anybody else knows any other ones? I can look in a map that I have
>>and give you some more.
>>
>>-- 
>>Michalis Syrimis
>>University of Illinois
>>Urbana-Champaign
>>

>GET OFF of it Symiris !!!

>Turkish Cypriots ARE TURKISH Cypriots.

>You see why we will never want THE TURKISH ARMY TO LEAVE.

>It's because what you are doing right now is what the Greek Cypriots
>want to repeat to us OVER AND OVER AGAIN so that their last obstruction
>to Cyprus turning into a GREEK ISLAND is eliminated.

>BUT IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

>TURKISH CYPRIOTS ARE OF TURKISH DECENT AND THEY WILL BE THE REPRESENTATIVES
>OF THE TURKISH RACE IN CYPRUS FOREVER. SWALLOW IT !!!!!

Turkish race? He,he. Nice joke.
						 Bye,
						Yannis.

ps: You are not really shouting, are you?
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Subject: internet sites in greece
From: cpbuehrer@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:21:03 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

Is there an FTP site or something where I can grab a list of internet/bitnet(?)
sites in Greece...especially Athens & Thessaloniki.

advTHANKSance,
--Dennis
From: gavriel@socrates.umd.edu (Nick Gavrielatos)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Testarw kai goustarw
Date: 27 Jan 1993 19:27:55 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

to texas douleuei re?
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From: ji@cs.columbia.edu (John Ioannidis)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Re: Mnemonic for 3.14159...
Date: 27 Jan 93 09:42:38 GMT
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science

In article <C1HrGD.48y@news2.cis.umn.edu> palios@geom.umn.edu (Leonidas Palios) writes:
>
>I remember in high school, someone showed me a GREEK mnemonic rule
>for the first few digits of $\pi = 3.14159...$
>(I saw it within the last year somewhere in the net, but...)
>It started as follows:
>"Aei o 0eos o megas gewmetrei ..."
>  3  1  4   1   5       9
>and it was going on for another 6 or 8 digits...
>
>Can someone send me the missing part?

The way I've heard it is:

AEI O QEOS O MEGAS GEWMETREI TO KYKLOY MHKOS INA ORISH DIAMETRW
3   1 4    1 5     9         2  6      5     3   5     8

EPOIHSATO ARIQMON APERANTON KAI ON FEY OYDEPOTE OLON QNHTOI QA EYRWSI
9         7       9         3   2  3   8        4    6      2  6

which gives 23 decimal digits. The words:

AMHN BRE KAI TELEIWSE
4    3   3   8

give another four digits, but the style doesn't quite fit with the
rest of the phrase!

>Do you know who invented it?   Does it date back to the era of ancient
>greek mathematicians, or was it produced the last couple of centuries?

No idea. If you look at the language, up to "APERANTON" it could pass
as koine, or biblical, greek. The "QA" in the 22nd place cannot have
been more than 2-3 centuries old, though. [[ Side question: when did
"QA" (short form of "QELEI INA" (cf. "will" in english)) enter the
language? ]] 

>
>Xilia eyxaristw
>Lewnidas

/ji

                                ______ 
 "Intellectuals trying to       \    /  ji@cs.columbia.edu  
  out-intellectual other         \  /   B5 f+ w++ cd g+(+) k+? sv r- p+
  intellectuals" (Fritz the Cat)  \/       ... It's all greek to me!
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From: ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek,alt.news.macedonia
Subject: Re: Ellemann-Jensen on Macedonia
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:24:49 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

cla04@seq1.keele.ac.uk (A.T. Fear) writes:

>From article <C1HArD.IrM@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, by ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis ):
>> 
>>  You could find everywhere in Skopje the currency
>>  depicting the White Tower of Thessaloniki; you could buy it from many
>>  kiosks, where it was (still is?) on display.  And many people were
>>  buying it.

>Now this currency intrigues me.  To the best of my knowledge Macedonian
>notes display a picture of the Krusevo monument to the 1903 uprisng. 

 Can a charlatan pseudo-historian ever give a straight answer?
 What?  The expert Andy Fear hasn't heard about the "currency"
 depicting the White Tower of Thessaloniki? 

>Andy

 Panos Tamamidis
From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Ellas Ellhnwn Xristianwn
Date: 27 Jan 1993 11:47:50 -0600
Organization: Delco Electronics Corporation
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Loipon paidia h olh suzhthsh gia to "Poso Eutuxhs na Eimai ..." kai ta
terastia grammata (sunthhmata) kai oi shmaies sth vounoplagia mou
thumhsan ton filo mas :-) Papadopoulo apo ton Korydallo kai ta "Ellas
Ellhnwn Xristianwn"...

Ta thymatai kanenas auta re? Se gefures, kthria, klp, klp shmaies,
flampoura, kai averta Ellas Ellhnwn Xristianwn... H monh diafora einai
oti o dikos mas einai sth fylakh kai o dikos tous einai prwthpourgos...

Apo oti exw akousei uparxoun sullektes pou mazeuoun antikes ths
'Epanastashs'. Auta pou exw dei einai pothriia (ouzo, nero), tasakia,
mprelok gia kleidia, piata diakosmhtika, .... Na re eukairia, na
kanoume tasakia me th mapa tou 'hgeth' tou pseuto-kratous kai 
gamw ths pwlhseis re dike mou, kai prwtoi...

Euge Paidia! 

-- 
Spiros Triantafyllopoulos                    c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com
Software Technology, Delco Electronics       (317) 451-0815
GM Hughes Electronics, Kokomo, IN 46904      [A Different Kind of Disclaimer]
From: pef@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Panayotis Fouliras; TA PhD)
Subject: Re: Ellemann-Jensen on Macedonia
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:39:51 GMT

In <C19LBB.6yC@gabriel.keele.ac.uk> cla04@seq1.keele.ac.uk (A.T. Fear) writes:
[..]
>Hmm I wonder how you'd characterise those who called for Enosis or read
>the Stochos newspaper. Or indeed those who tried to lynch two
>Macedonians after their trial on December 10th last year - I think their
>crime was to say that they felt Macedonian not Greek in public. That
>raises an interesting question in itself. Small nationalist groups
>manage to make statements like that all the time in Britain, but no one
>is dragged into court for doing so. We should also mention perhaps the
[..]

>Andy

Now stop the tape recorder. Should we start again with what
happens with the voices of - even - parlamentarians, when they wish
to give TV interviews, due to a law that prohibits views of
people supportive of what the British gvmnt considers terrorists'
views? A similar one (but for terrorists *only*) exists in
Greece (although without the ridiculous loophole mentioned above,
causing people to be heard dubbed!).

The last time you said the same things a thread of 50+ messages was
created, so stop being boring...

Panayotis
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek,alt.news.macedonia
From: irakliot@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Leo J. Irakliotis)
Subject: Re: Ellemann-Jensen on Macedonia
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 23:04:41 GMT
Reply-To: irakliot@lance.colostate.edu
Organization: Engineering Network Services, Colorado State University

In article <C85PERWE.93Jan22155628@kol20.IDA.LiU.SE>, c85perwe@IDA.LiU.SE (Per Westling) writes:

|> James Tsillias suggested that Denmark would oppose the recognition of
|> The Republic of Macedonia if it would call itself New Copenhagen.  I
|> don't think they would, and for that matter, I would support them even
|> if they called themselves New Sweden (a name used by a part of the
|> world now incorporated in the USA).

Yet another simplistic approach. New Jersey, for example was founded by
people to fleed from Jersey and named their new settlement to honor their
home-land.

Tsillias's argument was not a good one. I don't know much of Denish history
nor Scadinavian --- despite the fact that I was involved for 2.5 yrs with
an excellent lady from Sweden --- but how would you feel is Norway for example
changed the name to something taken deeply inside from Swedish history,
thus claiming that Sweden is Norway after all?

-- 
Leo J Irakliotis                 irakliot@eva.lance.colostate.edu
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Electrical Engineering                      l.irakliotis@ieee.org
Colorado State U
(303) 491-2021                              Optical Computing Lab
From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: re: writings on mount 5-dactylos
Date: 27 Jan 1993 08:29:53 -0600
Organization: Delco Electronics Corporation
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Varnavas Lambrou asked about the writings on the Mount Pentadactylos
and Besime Erin responded:

> One of them is "Ne mutlu Turkum diyene!" which means: 
> "How happy I am to be a Turk!" so its meaning is just that.

Do you folks mean to say that high in the mountain Pentadactylos
there's huge letters (reminiscnent of   H O L L Y W O O D   in
Los Angeles) that write out these message(s)? How big are these
writings? Distance they can be seen from? etc?

Just askin' (promise, no follow-ups)

Spiros
-- 
Spiros Triantafyllopoulos                    c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com
Software Technology, Delco Electronics       (317) 451-0815
GM Hughes Electronics, Kokomo, IN 46904      [A Different Kind of Disclaimer]
From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Re: writings on mount 5-dactylos
Date: 28 Jan 1993 07:57:34 -0600
Organization: Delco Electronics Corporation
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

bse@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Besime Erin) wrote:

   We are people of Cyprus as much as anybody else is and the land
   we now have may not be propotional to our population nor may we have originally
   owned it all but we did own some of it and we did leave some lands in the
   South as well on which you are sitting on so don't you go around talking
   you are going to liberate the lands who totally belong to you because
   they DON'T totally belong to you.

Interesting; this all is ONE sentence; try saying it without pausing
to catch your breath if you can...

(out of curiosity, does the Turkish language support/encourage the
use of EXTRA long sentences, like Greek does? Ancient Greeks in 
particular were extra obnoxious with sentence == paragraph, and
sometimes sentence == page. Any experts out there? writing long
sentences has been the hardest habit to kick in transitioning from
Greek to English for me...)

Spiros
-- 
Spiros Triantafyllopoulos                    c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com
Software Technology, Delco Electronics       (317) 451-0815
GM Hughes Electronics, Kokomo, IN 46904      [A Different Kind of Disclaimer]
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek,alt.news.macedonia
From: cla04@seq1.keele.ac.uk (A.T. Fear)
Subject: Re: Ellemann-Jensen on Macedonia
Organization: Keele University, England
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:47:35 GMT

From article <Jan22.012319.51623@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, by irakliot@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Leo J. Irakliotis):
 
> |> This is not due to xenophobia (as anyone who
> |> knows Greece can see through this, immediately) 
> 
> Actually Greece is one of the few EC members with no nationalist or
> neo-facism movements. Germany, UK, France, Danmark are facing problems
> with extreme right wing opposition to EC union. 
> 

Hmm I wonder how you'd characterise those who called for Enosis or read
the Stochos newspaper. Or indeed those who tried to lynch two
Macedonians after their trial on December 10th last year - I think their
crime was to say that they felt Macedonian not Greek in public. That
raises an interesting question in itself. Small nationalist groups
manage to make statements like that all the time in Britain, but no one
is dragged into court for doing so. We should also mention perhaps the
five *Greek* communists who are on trial for treason (!) simply for
circulating a pamphlet which disagreed with the official line on
Macedonia. You'd be hard put to find a parallel case in any of the
countries you list above. Why can't Greece be a little more tolerant?

 As regards the other countries you mention, let's face it every country
has a few fascists.  But opposition to Maastricht (and that includes me
in Britain) is all-party.  As I recall in France the main
anti-Maastricht spokesman in the referendum was a leading figure of the
centre right RPR, in Denmark the main opposition group to the EEC, 'The
People's movement against the EEC' is left-wing.  Last week in London
there was a rally calling for a referendum on Maastricht which was
addressed by members of all 3 major political parties, left, right and centre.


Andy
From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: re: Greek planes overflying Macedonia
Date: 22 Jan 1993 13:17:57 -0600
Organization: Delco Electronics Corporation
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Spiros Branis wrote:
> The alleged Greek airplanes that overflying Skopje air space are
> Jaguar according to Skopje sources. The Greek air force does not
> operate this kind of military airplane. 

The Jaguar is a nice little plane, I think sort-of-supersonic (Mach 1.6?),
reasonably low-tech, twin-engine, high-wing configuration. Easy to
spot and identify. It is an inexpensive multi-role aircraft.

The Greek Air Force (and as far as I know) nobody in the vicinity
flies it. (too bad, it's quite good). 

An interesting trivia though. The X-Yugoslavia used to manufacture
a plane strikingly similar to the Jaguar; I remember seeing the two
in Jane's data book almost 15 years ago. Were they making the Jaguar
under licence, (quite possible) or did the Skopjans confuse X-Yugoslav
air force planes (flown by whoever) instead?

Spiros
-- 
Spiros Triantafyllopoulos                    c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com
Software Technology, Delco Electronics       (317) 451-0815
GM Hughes Electronics, Kokomo, IN 46904      [A Different Kind of Disclaimer]
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From: u1a70@keele.ac.uk (SD Bateson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek,eunet.misc,eunet.news,eunet.politics,eunet.sources
Subject: Working/claiming benefit in EC
Date: 24 Jan 93 21:44:35 GMT
Distribution: eunet
Organization: Keele University, England



Hi there fellow European citizens -

During a year out from University, I hope to work in Greece to

improve my language ability. However, it has been difficult to 

find out any information about the Greek taxation and social security

system. Also, if I lose my job, will I be entitled to unemployment

benefit there as an EC citizen? Does anybody know of any exchange

schemes etc that I could go on? I have read the Maastricht treaty,

but it is not specific on these points.

       Any advice about these points, or where I could find out more

about them would be very helpful. I am very grateful to anyone who

can help me with this.


Simon Bateson

University of Keele

England

(I apologise if I inadvertantly posted this twice)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
From: scg@bashan.cs.wisc.edu ( Scg)
Subject:  Human Sacrifices in Crete (continued....)
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:32:44 GMT

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Hi. I', afraid I have lost Gott's e-mail address so I'll have to use
the newsgroup to send him this information. Gott had asked about 
evidence of human sacrifices in Minoan Crete. After asking the proper
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From: trh@jack.sns.com (Al Trh)
Subject: Re: The Chairman Of EC says:
Organization: Systems'n'Software
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 13:32:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.073849.457@ntua.gr> lsuki@ikaria.ntua.gr (Levon H. Sukissian) writes:
>In article <1993Jan21.162312.18313@kth.se>, mixalHs writes:
>> |> 
>> milaei h Dania gia Ellada... pws leme:
>> eipe o ga.i.daros ton peteino kefala!
>> an kapoia xwra dhmiourgei problhma sthn eok einai
>> h Dania kai oxi h Ellada (pws len mastrixt;)
>> 
>> mixalHs
>
>Afou loipon eisai toso konta stous ksanthopaparakous tous Danous tha exeis
>akousei oti o Elleman phre apo tous DIKOUS TOY SYMPATRIWTES to brabeio tou
>pio BLAKA politikou (akribws etsi). Bebaia twra mas adeiase th gwnia, alla ki
>o antikatastaths tou an sunexisei na uposthrizei thn prwth tou sxetikh dhlwsh
>(tha sunexisw thn politikh Elleman) eimai sxedon sigouros oti tha parei to
>allo megalo brabeio pou dinoun oi sumpatriwtes tou, to epishs katalhgon se
>-laka :-)
>
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Aynen oyle oglum Levon. Haklisin, ne diyelim? Sen bana pas ver, ben O'na
gonderirim. Bu arada Makedon'unuda unutma. Celm takanlara dikkat.
Faul yapanlari hakeme sikayet edelim mi?
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