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From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
Subject: Re: Citizenship question (German/US)
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:15:58 GMT
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: Deep Space Nine (DS9)

BIOSEE@UKCC.UKY.EDU (Stephanie Edelmann) writes:

>I have a question for you guys.  People have been asking me lately
>why I don't want to apply for citizenship in the US.  I've been 
>telling them that that's because I don't want to give up my german 
>citizenship.

My girlfriend is also a German with US Permanent Residence so
your cases are the same ...

>Now here's the question:
> 
>1. Is that actually true, do I have to give it up?

Yes, the oath that you take at the citizenship ceremony renounces 
all previous ties.  Even if your country doesn't recognize your
renunciation (e.g., Canada -- the only way to do it is filing 10
forms, in triplicate, in front of consular staff; New Zealand --
there's no such thing! (-;), the Americans will pull your citizenship
if you get caught exercising your past citizenship privileges.

>2. If I have to give it up, is that because the US won't allow dual
>citizenship or is Germany the problem?

See above, re: renunciation.  An *American* citizen can acquire
additional new citizenships if those do not require renunciation 
(of the American or other past citizenships).  Thus, an American 
can become a Canadian citizen and be a dual, but not the other way.

Some countries, especially in Europe, have legacy citizenships for 
the children/grandchildren of previous emigrated nationals.  In some
cases, those bypass the renunciation that would have been required in
normal naturalization.  You cannot reclaim your old citizenship from
your own legacy, however. (-;

Also, note that one may be *born* with dual citizenship and retain
that status throughout life.

In practice, American PR's from other western countries tend not to go
for US citizenship because there is no pressing need to do so; they're
not escaping repressive regimes to be rightfully abandoned, etc.  You
are in good company; my girlfriend and her family (12 years), Peter
Jennings, Neil Young, Wayne Gretzky, Jason Priestley (90210) -- and
many other US celebrities who are actually Canadian; Jean-Louis Gassee
of Apple Computer and Phillipe Kahn of Borland (France), and probably
many other examples too plentiful to imagine.

gld
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From: bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Scearce)
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
Subject: TC visa requirements
Date: 22 Jan 1993 17:54:03 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
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Could someone please post/email a list of the items that are required
on the offer letter in order to get a TC visa?  Better yet would be a
form letter, with "fill in the blanks" for the variable stuff.

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From: reddy@ulysses.att.com (Kishore Reddy[ftd])
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
Subject: Question on TAX/DEDUCTIONS during PT/H1: URGENT
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:03:07 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Murray Hill, NJ, USA


	Hi H1/PT Gurus:


	I have a question regarding the TAX etc. cuts during PT-H1-Labor
	period.

	I want to know, what are the TAXES (State and Federal)  and 
	DEDUCTIONS (FICA, Medicare, Disability) will be deducted from
	your GROSS pay, during Practical Training (PT), H1 status and
	after getting Labor Cert.. Please let me know the % of cuts
	also. 

	Please reply me at my account: reddy@ulysses.att.com
	as I donot read this group regularly.
	I shall post the replies after compilation.

	
	Thanx in advance,


	Kishore Reddy

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From: vpd@acsu.buffalo.edu (Vinay Dabholkar)
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
Subject: F2 visa -help needed
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:42:14 GMT
Organization: UB
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Hi Guys,

This is my story in short.  I am a  second year  PhD  student at SUNY,
Buffalo. My wife has admission in my university .  She went for her F1
interview in July 92 and her visa was turned down.   That time we were
not married.  So we decided to directly go for F2  which is considered
easier to get.

I went to India  and got  married on 14th  Dec.   She went for the  F2
interview on 16th Dec.  I was not allowed to  enter the consulate as I
have  multiple entry visa.   She   was refused the  visa.   The reason
apparently was  that she has admission in  the same university as I am
studying.  And so   she is   a potential immigrant.  Actually  I   was
carrying all the important letters (letter from advisor, international
students advisor, graduate chair ) etc.  showing sufficient funding in
future and also bank statements. It seems they did  not look at any of
these except marriage  cert.  and my  I20.  Now she  was told that she
can't appear for  interview in person   for two years.  So  we applied
again by mail with  my forwarding letter  explaining the facts.   That
was also turned down. Now I have come back to Buffalo.  Some guys have
told me that letters from Senators might help in getting her a visa.

Can anybody guide me ? 

Thanking in advance,
Vinay
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From: jiangky@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Keyuan Jiang)
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
Subject: Re: PR as a graduate student
Date: 22 Jan 1993 17:17:00 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Nestor Michelena wrote:

>Under section 203(b)(1)(B) of the Immigration Act (see Federal Register
>Vol56, No230, Nov29, 1991, pag 60906) you don't need labor certification
>if you are an OUTSTANDING PROFESSOR OR RESEARCHER.

>Evidence consists of at least two of the following: ...

Mere submission of mentioned evidence does NOT support an application. You
have to have HARD documents to show you're INTERNATIONALLY OUTSTANDING. If
you read the Act carefully, you'll find that OUTSTANDING means INTERNATIONALLY
OUTSTANDING.



Keyuan

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Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
From: dsb@godzilla.pi.macsch.com (Deepak Brar)
Subject: Re: After the Green Card
Followup-To: alt.visa.us
Organization: MSC, LA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 00:00:58 GMT

In article <Jan.21.17.12.19.1993.21191@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, stella@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Ricky ...suave... Stella) writes:
|> jars@carson.u.washington.edu (Juan Rodriguez-Sero) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> >Exactly; my understanding is that you lose resident status if you don't reside
|> >hera (which sounds rather logical to me); more specifically, if you stay abroad
|> >more than six consecutive months or more than 180 days in any calendar year.
|> 					       ^^^^^^^^
|> 
|> WOW!!! I thought it was only 30 days... someone clarifies this...
|> 
|> BTW, Canada DOES have a 180 days...
|> 

It is my understanding that green card holders must not be out of the country
for more than one year - ie. they must return to the US at least once a year.
I may be wrong, but this 30 day / 180 day stuff certainly seems incorrect - I
know green card holders who have been out of the US 364 days and retained their
green cards!

I'm not an expert on this - just stating my opinion.

|> -- 
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From: au500@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Linda Zinn)
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
Subject: K Petition
Date: 25 Jan 1993 01:09:04 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: au500@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Linda Zinn)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


I am about to file a K petition (fiance) so that my Canadian fiance
can enter the U.S. to marry me. How long has that been taking
lately?
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From: mir@acsu.buffalo.edu (Atif S. Mir)
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
Subject: Applying 4 GC based on marriage 2 citizen
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:50:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UB

Hello,

	If anybody has ANY information about the process please contact me.
I have recently applied for it (TODAY).  If tere are other people in the same
boat, contact me for any information I might get from others.  For those who
have information....send it.

							Atif Mir
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Organization: Materials Science and Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 12:42:14 -0500 
From: "S. Raman Sankaranarayanan" <ssat+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: need visa; after expiry of F-1 PT 

Dear friends:
I have been in this country on student visa since 1986.  I submitted my
Ph.D. thesis in January 1992, and obtained F-1 Practical Training / EAD
in 1/92.  My PT authorization expired this week.  Also, my research
contract at Carnegie Mellon University (as post doc) expires this week.

I am currently looking for jobs and hope to attend a couple of
interviews in February.  i am told that I can stay here until 30 days
after expiry of my PT; or for 60 days, if I initiate some other visa
application.  Is there any way in which I can extend my PT permission,
or any other interim visa status that I can get into within the next 30
days?

Also, (a)  my wife is with me on F-2 dependent visa; can she stay beyond
the 30 day grace period, after expiry of my PT
(b)  I have also used pre graduation practical training of 12 months, in
3 segments, in 1988, 89, 90-91.  
(c)  I received my Master's and PhD in this country; does that make any
difference, in my favor?
(d)  I am not very concerned about getting a green card; looking for
just a couple of years experience in the industry
, in the U.S.; and I have a job offer in India.  
I will appreciate any suggestions to help me extend my stay here by 2-3 months.
Thank You very much.  
Raman Sankaranarayanan
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
From: rdubey@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Rakesh Dubey - grad student)
Subject: Re: F1 to H1 or Green Card
Organization: Washington State University!
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 22:25:17 GMT

In article <93022.111401KSADEGH@auvm.american.edu> <KSADEGH@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>Hi
>
>I recently got an offer to work in a company. I am currently on F1 status.
>The company has agreed to change my status. My question is whether they should
>change my status to H1 or get a green card for me directly. Or basiclly, is
>it possible for them to go for green card directly? And if they support
>me for H1, how long would it take to change it to PR?
>
>Any pointer is appreciated
>k1

Your company can apply for PR and there is no requirement for you 
to change to H1 status. But your current visa may expire before you get the
green card. 

You can not have full-time employment on F-1 visa unless you 
have obtained EAD from INS. This EAD is valid for only an year and it
is unlikely that you would get your green card before that date.

Finally, the time required to get a green card does not depend 
upon your current visa status. It does depend on your nationality.
To put it very simply there is a constant time and a variable time. The
constant time is about six months and the variable time can be from three
months to almost two years. 

You should also talk to an attorney (avoid Zoe Baird :-)


-Rakesh
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Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
From: vagarwal@dis9002.shearson.com (Virendra Agarwal)
Subject: Re: PR as a graduate student
Organization: Lehman Brothers
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:26:12 GMT

In article <slawek.726986947@aries> slawek@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Slawomir Z. Janicki) writes:


   Does anybody know if it is possible to successfuly apply for PR beeing a
   GTA or GRA in a graduate school? I was told that the Labor Certificate
   can not be issued to a GTA or GRA.
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	Well, if you are employed by the educational institution and they are 
filing for your PR, then "LABOR CERTIFICATE" requirement is WAIVED. 

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Organization: Materials Science and Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 12:51:04 -0500 
From: "S. Raman Sankaranarayanan" <ssat+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: need visa ; after expeiry of F-1 PT / EAD

Dear friends:
I have been in this country on student visa since 1986.  I submitted my
Ph.D. thesis in January 1992, and obtained F-1 Practical Training / EAD
in 1/92.  My PT authorization expired this week.  Also, my research
contract at Carnegie Mellon University (as post doc) expires this week.
 
I am currently looking for jobs and hope to attend a couple of
interviews in February.  i am told that I can stay here until 30 days
after expiry of my PT; or for 60 days, if I initiate some other visa
application.  Is there any way in which I can extend my PT permission,
or any other interim visa status that I can get into within the next 30
days?
 
Also, (a)  my wife is with me on F-2 dependent visa; can she stay beyond
the 30 day grace period, after expiry of my PT
(b)  I have also used pre graduation practical training of 12 months, in
3 segments, in 1988, 89, 90-91.  
(c)  I received my Master's and PhD in this country; does that make any
difference, in my favor?
(d)  I am not very concerned about getting a green card; looking for
just a couple of years experience in the industry
, in the U.S.; and I have a job offer in India.  
I will appreciate any suggestions to help me extend my stay here by 2-3 months.
Thank You very much.  
Raman Sankaranarayanan
From: shankar@sgi.com (Shankar Unni)
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
Subject: Re: CHANGING CITIZENSHIP
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:19:53 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
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BRITISH PUPPIE (an5812@anon.penet.fi) wrote:

> 1 Is the visa transferrable from Indian to the British Passport?

I don't think so..

> 2 If not then can I apply for visa in US?

You cannot. You will at least have to cross the border to Canada..

> 3 Can I obtain the British Passport in US?

No idea. Contact the British Consulate. I don't see why not, though..

> I am nearing my graduation(May 93). Are there any advantages or
> disadvantages of completing this process(Wherever orhowever I may end up
> doing it.) before of after graduating/finding a job.

Sure. If you are going to apply for an H-1 or a Permanent residency, it is
a great idea to have your passport situation straightened out well before
hand.

Especially for the H-1 - if you change your citizenship in between, you
will very likely have to re-apply for an H-1, and I'm not sure if you can
work legally in that interim - maybe an expert can clarify?

This is definitely one for an immigration lawyer..

> Are there any advantages or disadvantages of being a British citizen ( as
> against being an Indian) when looking for a job.

As far as looking for a job per se, I don't see any difference. However, if
you are going to apply for permanent residency in the US on the basis of
your job, you may be in for a bit of a surprise - the US quota system for
PR visas is based on the country of *birth*, not the country of
citizenship.

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From: jiangky@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Keyuan Jiang)
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
Subject: Re: Priority Dates..
Date: 21 Jan 1993 09:39:14 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Check libraries at your university to see if they have State Deparment Visa
Bulletin which should be in the area of US Government Documents. (INS does NOT
publish the Bulletin since the Immigrant Visas are issued by the State
Department).

BTW, the State Department has a toll number (not 900) you can call for visa
number info. (I don't have it with me. Sorry)

Good luck.


Keyuan
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
From: mona@panini.mcc.com (Mona Singh)
Subject: Re: Details on Practical training after graduation ??
Reply-To: mona@panini.mcc.com (Mona Singh)
Organization: MCC
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:48:47 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.213205.2518@hellgate.utah.edu>, mvthiel%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Mike van Thiel) writes:

|> However these rules raise some questions, I hope somebody out there
|> can answer them.
|> 
|> 1) Can you change employers during the 12 month period or are you
|>    restricted to a certain number (like 1) ?
|>    For instance, could I take a 3 month contract during my
|>    12 month practical training.
|> 

Yes you can change employers. It is usually a good idea not to put the 
name of any single employer on any of the forms you fill out.

|> 2) Can you start working as soon as your application is accepted
|>    (90 days before graduation) or do you have to wait until you are 
|>    officially graduated ?
|> 

You can start working as soon as you get the permission from INS. 

|> 3) Why do you have to appear in person at the immigration office
|>    and what will they ask you ? 
|>
 
They take your picture and give you a permit that looks like a 
driver's licence.

|> 4) What would be a reason for the INS to deny your application ?
|> 
Just in case!

|> 5) Are there any problems in starting to work for a company with
|>    your EAD (pratical training) and then applying for a H-1B visa 
|>    to continue working there ?

Exactly, that's the way to go.

|> 
|> Thanks a lot.
|> 
|> Mike van Thiel  (Netherlands)
|> 
|> mvthiel@asylum.cs.utah.edu
|> 

Mona Singh
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
From: nestor+@cs.cmu.edu (Nestor F Michelena)
Subject: Re: PR as a graduate student
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:33:15 GMT

In article <VAGARWAL.93Jan21102612@dis9002.shearson.com> vagarwal@dis9002.shearson.com (Virendra Agarwal) writes:
>In article <slawek.726986947@aries> slawek@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Slawomir Z. Janicki) writes:
>
>
>   Does anybody know if it is possible to successfuly apply for PR beeing a
>   GTA or GRA in a graduate school? I was told that the Labor Certificate
>   can not be issued to a GTA or GRA.
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>	Well, if you are employed by the educational institution and they are 
>filing for your PR, then "LABOR CERTIFICATE" requirement is WAIVED. 
>

Under section 203(b)(1)(B) of the Immigration Act (see Federal Register
Vol56, No230, Nov29, 1991, pag 60906) you don't need labor certification
if you are an OUTSTANDING PROFESSOR OR RESEARCHER. 

Evidence consists of at least two of the following:

* Material written by others about your work,
* Being a judge (e.g. reviewer) of the work of others,
* Evidence of alien's original research contributions,
* Authorship of books of articles in journals with international circulation,
* And two more which (I think) are more difficult to meet.

Also you must have three or more years of experience (teaching or research).

Doesn't specified how many publications, etc. in order to qualify.

Has anybody gotten the PR without labor cerfification?


Nestor Michelena
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
From: siu@morrill.ecn.purdue.edu (Wai Tak Siu)
Subject: Re: F1 to H1 or Green Card
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 13:54:51 GMT

On the other hand, could anybody tell me the usual time period to change from
F1 to H1? Thanks in advance!
Donald
From: 2fvmclear@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
Subject: Help! reinstatement for f-1 visa
Date: 25 Jan 93 09:16:03 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Hi all
I need HELP !!!!!

I just realised tht I am out of status for several years. :(
I was told tht I will need a new I-20 and to file for
reinstatement. I already have one undergraduate degree and now
I'm planning to get another one. I was not a full time student
at one time too..... but I'm always enrolled.

I have to include several things to support my request. One of
them is a letter explaining my circumstances. 

Who has done this reinstatement stuff before ?
What is a good/bad reason for my support?
Is it easy to get reinstatement???


thanks in advance
 
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us,soc.culture.indian
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:14:01 EST
From: <KSADEGH@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
Subject: F1 to H1 or Green Card

Hi

I recently got an offer to work in a company. I am currently on F1 status.
The company has agreed to change my status. My question is whether they should
change my status to H1 or get a green card for me directly. Or basiclly, is
it possible for them to go for green card directly? And if they support
me for H1, how long would it take to change it to PR?

Any pointer is appreciated
k1
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
From: an5812@anon.penet.fi (BRITISH PUPPIE)
Subject: CHANGING CITIZENSHIP
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: alt.visa.us
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:00:42 GMT

I am currently on F-1 visa on an Indian Passport.
 
I recently became eligible for a British Passport. Can anyone give me information on the following :

1 Is the visa transferrable from Indian to the British Passport?
 
2 If not then can I apply for visa in US?
 
3 Can I obtain the British Passport in US?
 
I am nearing my graduation(May 93). Are there any advantages or disadvantages of completing this process(Wherever orhowever I may end up doing it.) before of after graduating/finding a job.
 
Are there any advantages or disadvantages of being a British citizen ( as against being an Indian) when looking for
a job.
 
Advise/information on any of the above will be greatly appreciated.
 
Please e-mail at Kalra@brc.uconn.edu
 
Thanks
SANJAY
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