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From: migod@turing.toronto.edu (Mike Godfrey)
Subject: Re: History of British (Ice!) Hockey
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:08:55 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.071421.5959@eua.ericsson.se> euaaen@eua.ericsson.se (Anders Engwall) writes:
>steve@cs.hw.ac.uk (Steven Salvini) writes:
>
>>Well, that was last season - now the BIHA have dropped the time a
>>player must play/live in the UK to qualify as "British" (5 years) and I
>>dread to think how many Canadians will be eligible for this year's
>>World Championships :-(
>
>I'm not sure I got this right - do you mean that one does not have to have
>UK citizenship to be eligible for the British national team? Or is it just
>that it is very easy for foreign athletes to get a UK passport?

If your father is/was a British citizen, then you have the right to British
citizenship too.  (If you were born after 1983, you can claim it through
your mother -- they did de-sexify the rules but didn't "grandparent" it.)

In addition to holding Canadian citizenship, I hold a UK passport despite
never having resided there or having registered myself as British until
last year at the age of 28.  (No, it's not closet anglophilia; an EC
passport is a useful thing!)

-- 
Mike Godfrey	          "I will not expose the ignorance of the faculty.
Dept of Comp Sci, UofT     I will not expose the ignorance of the faculty."
migod@turing.toronto.edu			   -- The Simpsons
From: bouchard@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Marco Bouchard ETUDIANT sept-dec 92)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Referee are underpaid?
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:06:49 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada

I have to tell you this. It shows you how the NHL referees are treated.

For the two games in London (England) between the Hawks and Les Canadiens, 
the referee was Andy Van Hellemond. For each game, the ref gets 200$ (and 
100$ each for the two other guys). But Van Hellemond brang his wife in London.
For that reason, Alan Eagleson, the organizer of the mini turnament, asked
Van Hellemond to give back the 400$ he earned for the two games, because 
he was with his wife. Van Hellemond gave back the 400$!

Cheaper than that, you die! It's incredible to see how the NHL treat
his referees. But watch out!The contract between the refs and the NHL ends
at the end od this season. The next negociation will be very tough, 
because the refs are tired to be underpaid...For exemple, Ron Fournier (an
ex-referee who works in a radio station) said that a ref like Van Hellemond
who works until the Stanley Cup Final, earn about 125 000$ per year. It's
less then the minimum salary in the NHL!!!

It will be a long summer in 93 (the player's association contract will be 
expired too.....)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

----------> Marco Bouchard        bouchard@ireq.hydro.qc.ca   <-------------
----------> GO NORDIQUES GO !!!!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

P.S. The Flyers announced yesterday that Lindros will not play against the
     Nordiques this week-end at the Coliseum in Quebec City...
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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: UNFAIR? HABS
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:29:35 GMT

In article <14SEP92.18711489.0081@VM1.MCGILL.CA> CCDB@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CCDB000) writes:
>
>P.S. No one seems to mention Team Canada or Russian team of 1972
>
>Was there a better line than V.Kharmolov, Maltov & Yakashev.
>

It was Kharlamov, Petrov, and Mikhailov...most of the time...
Maltsev usually was on another line and played with Dynamo
instead of CRA...although in '72, Maltsev might have been
playing center instead of Petrov in Super Series...I can't
remember anymore though.

Gerald
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From: bsteinke@ugly.UVic.CA (Brad  Steinke)
Subject: Re: Vancouver Canucks Pre-Camp Outlook
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 15:29:02 GMT

In article <9209121856.AA28858@malibu.sfu.ca> chim@sfu.ca (Alan Chim) writes:
>Canucks Pre-Camp Outlook  (from Vancouver Sun)
>------------------------
>
>GOAL
>
>Worth Watching:  Mike Fountain.  The 20-year-old was among the top juniors
>last season and graduated from the same Oshawa program that produced
>McLean.  He also was selected for Canadian Junior Team, although he saw
>little action (or no action) with Trevor Kidd as the team's #1.
>
Very true I saw him yesterday in a scrimmage and he was very solid.  Held
up under very intense pressure put on by a line of Ronning/Bure/Momesso.
Look for him to be in the leaugue soon.
>
>LEFT WING
>
>
>One the bubble:  Gino Odjick.  The Algonquin Enforcer watched most of
>the playoffs from either the pressbox or the end of the bench.  With
>the new instigate-and-you're-out fighting rule, the slow-afoot Odjick
>is facing a desperate battle to keep his job.  Enigmatic Shawn Antoski
>could be breathing down his neck.
It looked like he was fighting for a spot in the lineup .  He was 
actually stick handling and skateing (as best as he could) yesterday.
>
>RIGHT WING
>
>Sure thing:  Pavel Bure, Jim Sandlak, Garry Valk, Robert Kron.  It
>looks weird without Linden listed here but the Rushin' Rocket
>could and should be double shifted to fill the void.  Sandlak will
>play behind Bure with Valk and Kron vying for third and fourth-line
>duty.
>
Valk and Kron were very impressive yesterday.  Kron showed very good
puck handling skills and lots of speed, Valk was laying alot
of hits and was very accurate with a very hard shot.

>
>
>CAMP FACTS
>
>When:  Sept. 11-18
>Where:  Memorial Arena Victoria
>On-Ice Workouts:  Saturday-Tuesday scrimmages at 9 a.m. and 12:45 p.m.
>                  Practices at 8 a.m., 10:45, 11:45 and 2:30.
>                  Admission:  free
>
>IntraSquad Game:  Wednesday, Sept, 16 at 7:30.  Admission:  Adults $9,
>                  children $6.  Preliminary game at 3 p.m. between
>                  Hamilton Canuck farmhands and UBC Thunderbirds.
>                  Admission: free.
 
 Can't wait for the Balck and Silver, game. :)

 Brad.
 bsteinke@sirius.uvic.ca
From: slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Leafs roster and TOP TWENTY LIST wanted
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:35:48 GMT
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada

Could someone post (or E-mail me) a copy of the current MAPLE LEAFS 
roster?
 
Also, I could use a copy of the top twenty point getters for the 
'92-'93 season, too!
 
Stephen Legge
Internet: SLEGGE@kean.ucs.mun.ca
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From: bprisco@shearson.com (Bobby Prisco)
Subject: Re: DYANSTY-Pens
Reply-To: bprisco@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:06:02 GMT


do you really think Jagr is 2nd best today? Not yet
How is your back Lemiuex ? 
Yes Barasso played well in playoffs twice However, he is easily rattled if
you get to him early.

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From: stewart@healthy.uwaterloo.ca (Terry Stewart)
Subject: Manon Rheaume 
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:18:39 GMT

I've been waiting for someone else to post this, but on TSN Sportsdesk
this morning they showed a clip of Phil Esposito at a press conference.
Phil admitted that Rheaume was "not bad" but that he did do it for
the publicity.  "In fact," he said, "if you could get the skates
on a horse, I'd throw it in goal."
 
Hey, don't flame me, Phil said it.  I was thinking, tho', that to get 
things really off the ground between the Lightning and the Senators, 
Mel Bridgeman should have two players dress up as a horse and tend 
net for a practice.  Well, just a thought.
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From: gjl@phx.mcd.mot.com (George Lloyd)
Subject: Re: Training Camp locations
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Tempe, Az.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:32:54 GMT

In article <23296@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM> willis@empire.dnet.hac.com (Stan Willis) writes:
>LA  Blue Jay Ice Castle, Blue Jay, CA
>    Great Western Forum, Inglewood, CA

It was announced in our local paper that the Kings will be training in
Phoenix at the Veterans Momorial Coliseum for four to six days before
their exibition game here.  I believe the game is Sept 26 but I'm not
quite sure.

Also it was announced that the Phoenix Roadrunners would play an
exibition game in the Forum aginst another IHL club before the Kings
play in one of their exibition games

Sorry I can't be more specific but I just had time to glance at the
article before comming to work today.

>
>Stan Willis
>net contact: L.A. Kings
>

*******************************************************************************
When I asked a Chinese Malay if he was going to give blood for a Blood Drive 
he said:
"What is inside a Chinaman should stay inside a Chinaman....
                               .....Unless there's money to be made from it!"
Ditto for Motorola's opinions!

George James Lloyd 
Motorola Microcomputer Division
2900 S. Diablo Way       DW234
Tempe AZ 85282
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From: mmilitzo@scott.skidmore.edu (matthew militzok)
Subject: Re: Bruins vs Whalers
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:37:29 GMT

Well.  I have been to many Whaler / Bruin matchups in the Hartford
Civic Center, and I know that there are NEVER more bruin fans than
whaler fans.  For a normal hartford/boston game the whalers sell about
11,000-12,000 seats before the bruin fans come in.  The game always or
is almost always a sellout because bruin fans purchase the remaining
3500-4500 seats.  It just seems like the bruin fans are so numerous is
because they are all concentrated in one part of the upper-deck.
Sure, it may be loud when the Bruins score but not nearly as loud as
when the Whalers score.  Plus, a whaler/bruin game is never complete
without a fight between two fans.  IT always seems that the bruin fan
always gets the **** kicked out of them.  IT must be that bruin fans
are always drunk.  The only words in the vocabulary of a drunk bruins
fan is "Brrruins!" "Bourrque", "Neelly", and "Hey! Where the hell is
Middleton?!?" oh yeah, they can also say "Mug! More Beer!"  Its no
surprise that bob beers and andy moog are on the bruins.  but back to
the initial statement.  the only reason why so many bruin fans come to
hartford is because they all have no life, no jobs, and nothing better
to do with their time.  Hartford is basically a working-class yuppie
crowd, unlike Boston which is a bunch of low-life, no job having, no
education using, beer drinking, 1970s living, no hockey-understanding,
losers.
But I can't say anything too negative about the team, they have been
pretty good throughtout franchise history.

THIS IS THE YEAR OF THE WHALE!
watch for Michael Nylander to be a higher scorer than Eric Lindos
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From: prg@athena.mit.edu (Patrick R. Griffin)
Subject: BOSTON BRUINS Tickets
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: ne
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:13:59 GMT


Tickets available to 20 Boston Bruins home games. Single
aisle seat in 3rd row of section 92 balcony ( goal line )
Mostly Saturday night games. $3 off box office price. $36 ea.
Will sell all 20 tickets for $660.
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From: arbogastw@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Warren Arbogast)
Subject: Top 10 Reasons to Watch the Caps This Year
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:42:50 GMT


According to an ad in today's Washington Post, Caps single game tickets go 
on sale at 10:00 am TODAY!!!  (Don't everybody rush, I'm sure there's 
plenty!)  The ad gave a few reasons to come and see the Caps this year...so 
first I'll give you the Caps reasons, then I'll give you mine...

The Ad says....

5. See Mark Messier and the Rangers !
4. See Lemieux and the Penguins !
3. See Lindros and the Flyers !
2. See the Islanders and Bruins ! (who knows why these teams were singled 
   out)
1. See Dino Ciccarelli's "debut"

Our survey says.............

10.  Mike Liut and Bernie Wolfe rumored to perform national anthem duo.
 9.  Marv Albert's son Kenny now does the games for HTS...come see him in 
       person and get a free balloon.
 8. Ice Cream social with Bob Carpenter after all home games.
 7. Family Values Night hosted by the Hunter and Miller brothers...free 
       rides on Al Iafrate's motorcycle, bring your daughters!
 6. Valet Parking with Bullet star Harvey Grant.
 5. EVERY game's an Alumni game!
 4. Hockey Puck nights with Abe Pollin, Dave Poile, Dan Quayle, and paying
    customers!
 3. Free rides on the Zamboni with Uncle Abe...just don't try to park it!
 2. With two new teams, we have a chance to win a few!

and the NUMBER ONE REASON to come and see the Caps this year.....




 1. See Dino Ciccarelli's "debut" 


Please add your reasons here:




Warren
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From: pgdmills@atlas.cs.upei.ca (Deryck Mills)
Subject: Re: Bruins Sched.
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:31:04 GMT

In article <18irrcINNpfl@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> dwilson@slapshot.East.Sun.COM () writes:
>
>Could someone mail me a copy of the Bruins sched.?
>
>Thanks,                


   i would also be interested in a copy of the sched.

	Deryck.
        pgdmills@atlas.cs.upei.ca

-- 
===============================================================================
Bourque crosses the blue line, He shoots, He ......|  Deryck Mills
Nicklaus with another hole in ...                  |  pgdmills@cs.upei.ca
I'd rather be golfing.                             |  DEM Computing
From: rich@quik.clearpoint.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Best forwards ever?
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:50:58 GMT
Reply-To: rich@jasmine.clearpoint.com
Organization: Clearpoint Research Corp, Hopkinton MA 01748

In article <1992Sep10.114146.7568@ericsson.se> etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se (Staffan Axelsson) writes:

  

   Stan continues: "Conclusion: Over a five-year period no one can match the
   consistency and arsenal of the 1956-60 Canadiens. Given time, though,
   Pittsburgh just might."

  
Please remember the UNFAIR French Canadian rule which brought these players
to Montreal. Because of this rule, the Canadiens had the most unfair
advantage in hockey history when it came to drafting players. There is a
great book on this subject "Don't Remember the Title" that tells of all
the players they drafted through this rule, and all the players they would
have had if the rule was still active. It's scary seeing the players in the
league today who would have been Montreal property. At least the Penguins
have picked up their arsenal the correct way. They didn't have the deck
stacked in their favor. 

Rich
From: richardg@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Richard Grimmett)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:49:08 GMT
Subject: Re: SHARKS Training Camp Notes
Organization: Hewlett Packard Company, Spokane, Wa.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey



Any word on how Whitney is playing?  Is he going to make the team this 
year?  How about Falloon?  Just wondering how some ex-Chiefs are doing.

Richard Grimmett

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From: farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Bri Farenell)
Subject: Re: Hockey Poll
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 00:25:40 GMT

raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM (christopher raczka) writes:

>> In article <Qecfjju00Uh7M86854@andrew.cmu.edu>, Gary James Patalsky <gp2f+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>         Pre-Season Hockey Pool

>> 1.  Who will win the Stanley Cup?
> 
>    The DETROIT RED WINGS will defeat the Buffalo Sabres in 5 games

Should this response be posted on alt.humor?

>> 2.  Do you think the optional helmet rule is good for the game?
> 
>    Obviously, no one likes to be told to do anything
>    but until the players coming into the league learn to
>    control their tempers which are attached to their sticks, 
>    it is best to keep the lid on and protect your skull at all times

That is missing the point, I maintain. I do believe that the sticks will
be more controlled but one of the big protections of helmets has nothing
to do with the players involved. It has to do with the speed at which hockey
is played. You've got some guys skating superfast and when they fall,
if they hit their head into the boards...ouch (and worse). What about
a guy who dives to try and block a 90 mile an hour slap shot without
a helmet? You figure it out. It's not just the fighting and sticks that
can cause head injuries.

>> 4.  Will the Rangers ever win another Stanley Cup?  (rhetorical-answer is no)

Sure, as soon as George Bush's ACTIONS start promoting his family values
talk.
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BRI FARENELL			|         CONGRATS TO THE 
CLARKSON '95			|     1992 CALDER CUP CHAMPION
FARENEBT@CRAFT.CAMP.CLARKSON.EDU| 	ADIRONDACK RED WINGS	  
rec.sport.hockey's AHL contact	|  ALSO: 1981, 1986 and 1989 Champs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"Hockey must be a great game to survive what the NHL has done to it."
		---Penguins' owner Howard Baldwin
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From: lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico)
Subject: Pens sign #1 pick
Keywords: Straka
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:00:38 GMT

The Pens have signed Martin Straka, their #1 draft pick.  Terms of the 
contract were not released.  Straka will be in attendence at training camp.

The Pens hope for great things from Straka, a 5'10", 178 lbs center from
Czechoslovakia.  GM Craig Patrick believes that Straka's size (or lack of
it) kept him from being drafted sooner.  Patrick feels that Straka's speed
and "hockey intelligence" make up for that lack of size.

Lori 
Contact for the Penguins
lli+@cs.cmu.edu



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From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: SHARKS NEWS: Training Camp Roster
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 21:26:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.185310.17647@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> spe@coos.dartmouth.edu (Robert W. Layman) writes:
>
>Speaking of the Sharks, can anyone give me last year's stats
>on defensman David Williams.

Williams scored 28 points (3 goals and 25 assists) in 56 games for the Sharks.
Two of his goals were power-play goals.  He compiled 40 PIM.

I don't have the +/- numbers, but he was also among team leaders.

===============================================================================
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Go for Next Year! :-(
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Ray Whitney for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
	Pat Falloon for Hart! :-) Neil Wilkinson for Norris!  ('92-'93)
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
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From: arbogastw@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Warren Arbogast)
Subject: Re: Top 10 Reasons to Watch the Caps This Year
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:47:09 GMT

In article <15354@umd5.umd.edu> knox@monster.umd.edu (Garry Knox) writes:
>From: knox@monster.umd.edu (Garry Knox)
>Subject: Re: Top 10 Reasons to Watch the Caps This Year
>Date: 9 Sep 92 16:18:57 GMT

>In article <arbogastw.12.0@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu> arbogastw@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Warren Arbogast) writes:
>>
>>and the NUMBER ONE REASON to come and see the Caps this year.....
>>
>> 1. See Dino Ciccarelli's "debut" 
>>
>>Please add your reasons here:
>>

> I thought it was the free pizza we get everytime the Captials score 6 goals?

>-garry

At 32 bucks a seat, 5 bucks to park your car, and the absence of a proven 
goal scorer, just how likely is the 6-goal outcome this year, and just how 
FREE is the pizza?

Warren
Organization: H&SS Dean's Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Date: Tue,  8 Sep 1992 08:37:30 -0400 
From: Anna Matyas <am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Kings trade/NHL TV deal


Stan Willis writes:

>The Kings announced that they have acquired forward Pat Conacher fron the
>New Jersey Devils for future considerations.  Conacher, 33, scored 7 goals
>and 10 points in 44 games for the Devils last season.

Yikes!  Does anyone know the average age of the Kings?

Mom.

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From: arbogastw@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Warren Arbogast)
Subject: Caps sign Khristich
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:57:51 GMT


The Caps signed Dimitri Khristich to a two-year deal worth $900,000.

Warren
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From: etxjdry@caddie.ericsson.se (John Dryselius TG/HB)
Subject: The most popular team sports
Reply-To: etxjdry@caddie.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Telecom
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 11:11:59 GMT




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From: david@eng.umd.edu (David Chi-Chung Lu)
Subject: Caps mailing list
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 92 03:05:35 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Summary: Looking for interest

After receiving some gentle prodding, I'd like to see what kind of
interest there is for a mailing list.  Mail me at david@eng.umd.edu
and I'll let y'all know what kind of response I get.

Have a day.

Dave Lu


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From: hoebel@cs.rochester.edu (Lou Hoebel)
Subject: Re: Lindros and Rheaume notes
Organization: Computer Science Department University of Rochester
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:58:59 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.154254.18552@bmerh85.bnr.ca> wizz@bnr.ca (Boris Volk) writes:
>  Let's get real here. The ONLY reason she is in camp, is to get Tampa some
>free publicity, and from your reaction (and ABC's) it is working perfectly. I
>can't fault Espo, he really is a snake oil salesman.
>
> Ms Rheaume resume reads as follows:
>
> - shared goakeeping duties in last Women's world championship
> - played 11 minutes of 1 period in a Quebec junior game. She allowed 3 goals
>   and had to leave after taking a shot to the head.


Young Squire Volk's post smells of real sexism here. Perhaps I'm too
harsh on the young fellow, perhaps he'll grow up from his ignorant
position and take a less biased view of situation. The selective
posting of Rheaume's accomplisments supports this theory. She was the 
leading goalie on the team that dominanted the World Championships. I believe
she had a good record in Major Junior B, don't know if she played A.
I think she is 19 or 20 ...already with more accomplishments than 
most men can brag about.

I know she is not the only goalie to be stunned by a shot to the head.
Most of the goalies in my whimp-ass league duck.

The prior posts say she's doing well in  NHL traing camp scrimmages....
again more than most can brag about.

She may not make it in the NHL or the AHL...but she may, and if she gets a
an opportunity to try because of her gender....great...about time.

so please, take you post back to where you dwell. Post an opinion if
you want, but blatant stereo-typical rants are not well received.

[end diatribe]
-- 
->Louis Hoebel
  Computer Science Department 	hoebel@cs.rochester.edu
  University of Rochester       {ames|rutgers}!rochester!hoebel
  Rochester NY 14627            716 275 5414