HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jbibb@eng.auburn.edu (John S. Bibb)
Subject: Re: Tired today for the right reasons
Reply-To: jbibb@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:56:03 GMT

In article 21649@psych.toronto.edu, paul@psych.toronto.edu (Paul Hastings) writes:
> 
> Given that the most wonderful part of sex is immediately after, it's
> near tragic that the propensity of so many is to lunge for a towel
> or leap in the shower when the time could be (and was) taken to lie 
> shaking together while the spit and sweat and spunk congeals and
> cements the lovers into one, hands slowly caressing flanks and 
> ridges and grooves, lips seeking secret sensitive areas on the chin,
> the ear, the throat, the eyelid, sending waves of pleasure down the
> cooling body of one and feeling them return to the first, hearing
> the gasps and muted groans and wet sucking sound of stomachs pulling
> apart as breath is sharply drawn in because that kiss became a bite,
> increasing the pressure of the caress to the shoulders/back/buttocks/
> thighs, rolling and turning and rising until the first is above the 
> second and the caresses have become a massage, the oil mixing with
> the fluids already coating them both and translating pressure to
> heat as tensions come further undone, feeling the firm muscles lose
> their rigidity one by one from neck to foot, tasting each part that
> was not passed over but more worked through, moving back up the 
> prone body as at least two muscles of the bonded pair regain their
> engorged states and the wondrous realization dawns that the after
> was actually a between.
> 
> -paul
> 
> -- 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Paul Hastings    paul@psych.utoronto.ca          545 Dovercourt Road
> University of Toronto      416-978-3990          Toronto, Ont.  M6H 2W5
> M. Mark: I can teach you to dance with no intoxication.  (yeah, right!)   



STOP ALREADY....
I have to read this at work, and I am finding it increasingly hard to concentrate
on ANYTHAAANG else 8-)



Family Value:	1 homoerotic Border Collie (Harken)
		1 pregnant Shar-Pei (Miss Maudine or Miss Thaaang)
		1 Grandfather Clock (Grandfather)
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A mind is like a parachute---
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From: Minotaur@cup.portal.com (A Frank Swilling)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Can anyone tell me about this TV show?
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 19:48:11 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

David Stevenson yuks it up while I tremble in abject terror:

>Minotaur@cup.portal.com (A Frank Swilling) shouts:

>>Well *I* haven't heard it, and I use an electric razor.  Where did
>>you hear this?  What did you hear?

>What do you use the razor for--a hearing aid?

What, you heard something?

Frank
Minotaur@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Example
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 06:57:58 GMT

Another, not remarkable in itself but much more so when it
is considered that it's pretty hard to say the 's' word
without some spasm from certain corners:

GDM writes:

>Karl Elvis MacRae writes:
>>...What I didn't count on was how nasty it would be to have my
:>leg and chest hair growing back in. Geez, maybe I should have used
>> nair instead? Ugh.

>Maybe you shouldn't have shaved it off in the FIRST place.

>The best answers are **SO** simple.

>[> George D. Madison | NBCS: B8f+t+w-e+s+k+a!cv | Just say NO to razors! <]
						   ^^^ hmm...

How often do people on motss suggest that it only makes sense
for bears to shave their bodies (or beards, even)?

Wait a minute, I'm beginning to feel like that horrible person
that posted reams and reams of other people's stuff just to
prove something or other. I'm not going to go any further, as
this is beginning to feel a little heartless; It's not that
hard to find proff, though, if you've got a function that lets
you select all the posts in memory by one person. I'm going to
bed. Well, first I'll see if I just happened to find two posts
out of the maybe 5 I've been through of George's so far. If I can't
find any more I'll apologise and quit talking about it.

--
John Dorrance        * Sexyfunky Motherfuckerdiva *   thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu

		I bet if you threw that ass into the air
			It'd turn into sunshine!
Newsgroups: soc.motss,rec.pets.cats
From: jbeason@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Joseph E. Beason)
Subject: Re: gayfolk and cats
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:26:32 GMT

SO's affection for cats is important, but not nearly as important as not
being allergic!  It's really irritating to date a person who stops breathing
whenever he's in your apartment.  "GWM, 26, ISO G/BiM, must be kind to
animals and have no allergies to pets..."

Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: ECL4JN2@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Jack B. Nimble)
Subject: Re: Can anyone tell me about this TV show?
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:13:16 PST

In article <1992Nov20.211635.3974@reed.edu>, on 20 Nov 92 21:16:35 GMT,
nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:

I told you once before that your logic leaves something to be desired:
>
>There is a correlation between electric shaver use and cancer
>
>or, to put it another way,
>
>"The number of people in America who use electric shavers is X.  (the
>control group). The number of people in America with cancer who use
>electric shavers is Y. Y is much greater than X, implying that the two
>are correlated."
>
The number of people in America with cancer who use electric shavers
is a subset of the number of people in America who use electric shavers.
Therefore, Y must be less than or equal to X, which is the exact
opposite of what you've said.

        =Jack=
---

Jack B. Newsbaum             You have rights antecedent to all earthly
Library Information Systems  governments; rights that cannot be
University Research Library  repealed or restrained by human law.
ecl4jn2@mvs.oac.ucla.edu               - John Adams
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: k_mquinn@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: Re: Clinton Should Issue Pardons
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:38:04 GMT



In article <19921116165906ECL4JN2@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>, ECL4JN2@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Jack B. Nimble) writes:
> 
> There are hundreds of men languishing in Arkansas prisons today,
> having been convicted of this offense. I say that Governor Clinton
> should issue a full, complete, and unconditional pardon to each one of
> them before he leaves office.

	The notion that the state of Arkansas would spend the funds
 	required to keep "hundreds of men languishing . . . in prison"
	for private, consensual sex between adults, whether or not 
	defined as criminal, strikes me as improbable, to say the least.  

	Am I naive, or are you engaged it a wee bit of hyperbole?

	
 					Michael

  _____________________________________________________________________

  "Sometimes I think that half the fags in the world are named Michael.
      Where did they ever get this Bruce shit?"  -- Armistead Maupin	
  _____________________________________________________________________

Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: max@queernet.org (Max J. Rochlin)
Subject: Re: CO-2
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:10:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: QueerNet

In article <1992Nov17.231438.905@wam.umd.edu> corydin@wam.umd.edu (Tim Lachine) writes:
>I don't get it, what does carbon dioxide have to do with being gay?

Being Gay is a gas, gas, gas!


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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: ECL4JN2@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Jack B. Nimble)
Subject: Re: Disagreement No Reason for Inaction
Date: 21 Nov 92 02:13:41 PST

In article <1992Nov15.151404.2351@macc.wisc.edu>, on 15 Nov 92 15:14:04 GMT,
anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>
>Thanks to Jack Newsbaum for posting the items from GLAAD.  I
>think such information is useful.  I also agree with Jack
>that taking action is worth the effort.
>
No thanks necessary. An important function of soc.motss is to exchange information as to what's going on out there that affects us. Taking action brings its own rewards not merely in helping to bring about a desired objective, but also in one's own
satisfaction in having contributed to the result.

>Stimulated by one of the recent items, I wrote to the person
>who chairs a committee developing guidelines for accrediting
>higher-education institutions, whose draft document
>explicitly exempts affected institutions from having to
>include sexual minorities in their diversity policies.
>
The particular article's subject line was "GLAAD: Accreditation" in case
anyone wants to go back and retrieve.

>I mention this here to point out that despite sometimes very
>sharp disagreement over political philosophy, there are good
>reasons not to let such issues divide us in any way that
>prevents action for the common good on matters we do agree
>about.

        =Jack=
---

Jack B. Newsbaum             You have rights antecedent to all earthly
Library Information Systems  governments; rights that cannot be
University Research Library  repealed or restrained by human law.
ecl4jn2@mvs.oac.ucla.edu               - John Adams
Newsgroups: soc.motss,alt.politics.homosexuality,co.politics,co.general,talk.politics.misc,co.politics.amend2.discuss,boulder.general,csu.general
From: cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black)
Subject: Re: Support the boycott (was Re: Don't boycott all of Colorado)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:55:36 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

In article <1992Nov20.191113.21048@col.hp.com> dag@col.hp.com (David Geiser) writes:
>
> Isn't it funny how Jesus was so peaceful and Christians are so pushy?

    Yup.  It's also interesting that the "Christian" 'phobes keeping citing
Old Testament stuff in supposed support of their hatred.  I'm no bible
scholar, but isn't the thing that distinguishes OT from NT that JC was born
in between?  Thus, to "Christians", wouldn't the NT be a lot more relevant
than older Jewish writings?  Even though homosexuality isn't mentioned in
the NT (as far was I'm aware)?


-- 
   ******************************************************************
     Howard Black                             cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu
     Department of Chemistry                  Eastern Illinois Univ. 
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: jbibb@eng.auburn.edu (John S. Bibb)
Subject: Re: gayfolk and cats
Reply-To: jbibb@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:51:07 GMT

I do not know.....

I think that I can identify with my kids (dogs) just as well....
For instance, Miss Maudine is the sweetest thaaang that ever was, BUT she can (and
will) be a BITCH when she wants to be ;-)  Harken on the other hand is very unassuming
and often too easy to ignore (and queer as I am as well).
Maybe these two are just two cats in dogs furr, but I love them just the same.




Family Value:	1 homoerotic Border Collie (Harken)
		1 pregnant Shar-Pei (Miss Maudine or Miss Thaaang)
		1 Grandfather Clock (Grandfather)
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                                             |___________/    \__________|
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   email: jbibb@eng.auburn.edu               |_________/        \________|
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A mind is like a parachute---
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: paul@psych.toronto.edu (Paul Hastings)
Subject: Re: Sucking on Keanu Reeves
Organization: Department of Psychology, University of Toronto
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:08:02 GMT

In article <2b10d384@ThreeL.co.uk> jf@threel.co.uk (John Fisher) writes:
>In article <michaelh.722202225@Xenon.Stanford.EDU>,
>michaelh@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Mike Hennahane) writes:
>> >He was French.
>> 
>> need he say more?
>
>What's all this anti-French shit that's been creeping
>around the group?
>It doesn't strike me as particularly amusing, really.

John, John, John, *dah-ling*!!
That's  "We are not amused."
If yer gonna be a queen, don't play it straight, girlfriend!


-- 
Aunt Em,
     Hate you.  Hate Kansas.
     Taking the dog.
                        Dot.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Re: Surly French waiters
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:35:22 GMT

emcmanus@gr.osf.org (Eamonn McManus) writes:

>So Frenchmen are naturally surly, are they?  Well I suppose it might
>seem that way to Americans, stupid and vulgar as they are.

Vhell, at leest vee dun't ave zee seelee little tsin moosstashays,
non?

>,
>Eamonn

Ha! I rhrhrhrhrhrrraymeouv zee aucxcahnt frhrahm yeaour nem!

>Eamonn

Zut zut!

(And vee veeihl nout eh-vahn *touk* euh-baht zee oufeel kneet
stchchrahpt taupes, hohohoh?)

[translations available upon rhequas-tuh]

--
John Dorrance        * Sexyfunky Motherfuckerdiva *   thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu

		I bet if you threw that ass into the air
			It'd turn into sunshine!
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: llatwood@unix.amherst.edu (Laura Atwood)
Subject: Please post Colorado addresses!
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:42:20 GMT

Could someone please post Colorado addresses?  I didn't save mine... also, 
new users may find them useful.  Also, could you list which groups publicly
opposed and/or voted against C)-2?  Over Thanksgiving, I'm planning to write
letters galore, including letters of appreciation to allies.

Thanks--
Laura

Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: max@queernet.org (Max J. Rochlin)
Subject: Re: Homos at Depth
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 06:37:55 GMT
Organization: QueerNet

In article <BxvnE3.EKE@fig.citib.com> glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson) writes:

>What I don't understand is why there aren't more
>queers who dive.  It takes some skill and education,
>it's faux-butch (you get to strap a big knife to your
>calf) and there is lots of paraphenalia to buy - dive
>skins, wetsuits, masks, flippers, booties, and a whole
>array of dive computers to obsess over.

I know lots a queer divers.  A group of friends and I go diving
together at least twice a year.  Lots of fun.  We usually take
over a resort boat, but have been known to share with non-queer
diver 'just for fun.'

>
>And it's beautiful and gives you this amazing feeling
>of being very far away.  I don't know why I put it 
>off for so long.

It's also fun having control over the x, y, and z axis!

...Max
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From: jns@elea.umd.edu (J. N. Shaumeyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Bear Crap
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:53:07 GMT
Organization: Militant Homosexual Lobby, Gay Lifestyles, Inc.


Steve Dyer (dyer@spdcc.com) wrote:
 
> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
>
> >Could someone provide me with a recent example of this, like say a
> >direct quote or a reference to an article I'm likely to remember?
> 
> Well, it's occurred in the distant past, and some people have long
> memories.  Two people commenting on good looking bears constitutes an
> annoying excess, three, an organized conspiracy.

Distant past?  Well, I'm not *that* e-old, and I
can remember at least one incident that was not
just Furr-bashing or Amiga animosity.  But there's
no need to bring up old battles [since there are
so many current ones, and the conspiracy is bigger
than they think anyway].

Unfortunately, I can't think of a way to work Steve's
phrase 'persons of flamboyance' [which appeared in a
different context] into the conversation, but I'd hate 
to see it just disappear.

--jns
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:31:09 -0500 
From: Michael Witbrock <mjw+@cs.cmu.edu>
Subject: NZ national (conservative) party to sponsor law queer rights law



Excerpts from netnews.soc.culture.new-zealand: 16-Nov-92 NZ news to 14
Nov Alan C. Operations@csc.c (8779)


> Bid to outlaw sexual barrier
> A move to ban discrimination on grounds of sexual orientation 
> will be sponsored by an Associate Minister of Health, Mrs 
> O'Regan, and include a no-escape clause for the police. The 
> move confirms speculation that the Government caucus was not 
> prepared to include these grounds in its pending human rights 
> legislation. Instead, it has sectioned off the controversial 
> issues into a private member's initiative. Mrs O'Regan's move, 
> which will succeed, fail, or be amended on a conscience vote in 
> Parliament, has the support of the Minister of Health, Mr 
> Upton, the Associate Minister of Health, Mr Williamson and the 
> Minister of Women's Affairs, Mrs Shipley. Mrs O'Regan will be 
> basing her argument on health grounds.
> "The fear of discrimination in employment and housing has 
> stopped some homosexual and bisexual men from seeking medical 
> advice and tests that can determine their health status," she 
> said. "In doing so they put themselves and others at risk."
> Her proposal, which will not exempt the police or armed 
> forces, which have both opposed allowing homosexuals in their 
> ranks, is likely to be among the most sharply contested in 
> Parliament. The Minister of Police, Mr Banks, has been a 
> vociferous critic of change.


Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: homulka@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Thomas Homulka)
Subject: Hurricane GAY
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: world,local
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:38:16 GMT

Just thought it was interesting when I heard on the news this morning that
hurricane *Gay* is hitting near Guam.  Interesting name for a hurricane.
From: mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Social Democracy
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:37:35 GMT
Followup-To: soc.motss
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <KINGDON.92Nov14115431@east-win.east-wind.org>,
kingdon@east-wind.org (Jim Kingdon) wrote:
> 
> In article <mattm-021192091455@mcmelmon.apple.com> mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:
> 
>    Perhaps you could create soc.motss.totalitarian.tinkerbells?
> 
> Surely you mean soc.motss.tinkerbells.totalitarian?
> 
> Yours for newsgroup namespace purity,

Quite right!  

*X*
From: markm@ogicse.ogi.edu (Mark Morrissey)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Tired today for the right reasons
Date: 19 Nov 92 01:43:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.46102
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR

In article <1992Nov18.204415.21649@psych.toronto.edu> paul@psych.toronto.edu (Paul Hastings) writes:
>
>[a good description of bliss]

I told him to close those blinds!

Damn peeping toms.

--mark
--
Mark Morrissey           One Hatred to rule them all.  One Hatred to find them.
markm@cse.ogi.edu        One Hatred to bring them all and in the darkness bind
                         them.  In the land of Bigotry where the Shadows lie.
From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Marky Mark and Calvin Klein (was Re: Scott Masden)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 16:21:39 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <69732@cup.portal.com> <1992Nov18.155625.23186@netcom.com>
  <69797@cup.portal.com> <thaaang.722386673@cwis>

John Dorrance writes:
>Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) writes:
>>...and did I *SAY* there was anything wrong with his penchant for
>>doffing his pants?
>>*NO*!
>
>You merely *implied* it pretty strongly in context. So sorry.

Anyone [such as yourself] who observed me drop 'trou at
Rooster Rock should know better than to say I would label
a tendency to disrobe at the drop of ... whatever ... as a
*negative* characteristic.

However, I do concede that the comment's position after my
statement that I find him less than attractive could have
led to that impression.

 
() Ya know after I admited to myself that I really wanted
() men, I looked back at my past and it was obvious!
()      -- D. Owen Rowley (owen@autodesk.com)
-----
[> George D. Madison | NBCS: B8f+t+w-e+s+k+a!cv | Just say NO to razors! <]
[> It's a BEAR thing -- you wouldn't understand. <|> furr@cup.portal.com <]
Xref: sparky soc.motss:47930 alt.politics.homosexuality:7305 co.politics:2114
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From: rhayden@oracle.com (Ronald Hayden)
Subject: Re: Colorado Amendment 2: The First Fatality
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Belmont, Ca.
	<1992Nov13.205736.9819@wam.umd.edu>
	<RHAYDEN.92Nov14170015@hqsun2.oracle.com>
	<1992Nov16.155805.1529@wam.umd.edu>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:13:05 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Nov16.155805.1529@wam.umd.edu> aap@wam.umd.edu (Alberto Adolfo Pinkas) writes:

   In article <RHAYDEN.92Nov14170015@hqsun2.oracle.com> rhayden@oracle.com (Ronald Hayden) writes:
   >
   >It seems to me that to fire the gay employee in this circumstance
   >would be to say, "Hey, they're not after ME, so I'll just get rid of
   >you, let business get better, and regain the privileges I enjoy as a
   >member of society who is not discriminated against..."

   no, it will just let me pay my bills.

That's all?  Giving in to ignorance and firing a person who has done
no wrong will do nothing more than let you pay your bills?

I think not.

In addition to paying your bills, it would continue the cycle of
hatred and discrimination.

That may be the course you would take.  But at least admit that even
in the situation you have set up, what you would be doing is not free
of guilt.
--

  - Ronald Hayden

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From: jpt@telecaster.think.com (James P. Taylor)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Queers in military in other countries???
Date: 17 Nov 92 10:34:31
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
	<michaelh.721976383@Xenon.Stanford.EDU>
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com
In-reply-to: michaelh@Xenon.Stanford.EDU's message of 17 Nov 92 04:59:43 GMT

In article <michaelh.721976383@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> michaelh@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Mike Hennahane) writes:


   >Does anyone know about rules and regs on queers in military
   >in other countries?  I'm pretty sure there are a lot of them
   >out there that do not explicitly ban gays/lesbians.

   i know a guy that was an officer in the military in the Netherlands.
   he said it was no big whoop (being gay in the navy, i mean).

   --mike

This month's "Washington Monthly" has an article about gays in the military
in countries other than the US.  

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