HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: v094px3a@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Brian Mauger)
Newsgroups: rec.games.hack
Subject: Re: YAFM
Summary: pools?
Keywords: splashed with water
Date: 13 Dec 92 01:57:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Dec12.204531.29799@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>, arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes...
>In article <1992Dec12.055855.19440@samba.oit.unc.edu> George.Harris@launchpad.unc.edu (George Harris) writes:
>>	"Your potion of sickness dilutes.  You are splashed with water."
>>	Splashed with water?  That has never happened before.  It isn't in
>>the spoilers.  What could it mean?
> 
>What it means is that pools would have been created, but Nethack doesn't like
>the idea of creating pools in the room with the staircase in it for fear of
>blocking you off, or of just destroying the staircase.

I've been "splashed with water" without having pools created.  Don't think I was
in a staircase room at the time.  Nothing about this in the spoilers.

>"the bogosity in a field equals the bogosity imported from related areas, plus
>the bogosity generated internally, minus the bogosity expelled or otherwise
>disposed of."  -- K. Eric Drexler
> 
>Ken Arromdee (arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu, arromdee@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu)

have fun
brian
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From: lrfox@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (linda ream fox)
Subject: Re: Rogue level ghost?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:31:03 GMT


Which level(s) is(are) the Rogue level(s)?

LRFOX
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From: dmd39855@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel DuBois)
Subject: Re: a few more ?????
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: rec
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 18:29:37 GMT

ewing#ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Rick Ewing (the gentle giant)) writes:

>> it will heal you.  If you're at max. hp, it may increase your max.  You 
>> don't 
>> need cursed scrolls of genocide, but sometimes people use them to summon
>> lots of
>> nurses.
>> 
>> >Thanx for all the help. I am now making it to level 14/15, pretty soon
>> >I'll do it.
>> > 

>I use cursed scrolls of genocide to scare up some wraiths.  The scroll will
>make at least four of these beasties, which are easy to kill, and great for
>eating!  (you move up in experience levels per each wraith eaten)

>--Rick Ewing
>  Vanderbilt University

Wow, what a great idea!  No one's ever thought of that before!

Sorry to be sarcastic, I know I really shouldn't be, and Ill probably have
to delete some flames from my email box, BUT.... (and theres alwasy a but)
Arent there any other players out there who read dozens of posts from
new players and just wish "jeez, why dont these people get the spoilers?"
I read all these posts... 
"Whats a unicorn horn do" - get the spoilers
"Whats the blessed cursed status mean of blah-blah" - get the spoilers
"How do I charge a wand of wishing" - get the spoilers
"Can I wish for more wishes" - get the spoilers

"How can I get the spoilers?" - read the FAQ

Moral: If you come across something and dont know what to do, read the
spoilers.  Odds are its something people have seen/done a million times,
like the cursed genociding nurses and wraths... Everyone knows that trick.
This will 'weed out' the redundant questions and give us lots of new, fun
things to focus on... Like that thread about getting out of the first level
of hell, or what to do with a pet nurse... Original topics...

-Dan
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From: snelling@bnr.ca (Peter Snelling)
Subject: Re: nasty situation *UGH!* 8^)
Keywords: ghosts
Reply-To: snelling@bnr.ca (Peter Snelling)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:38:46 GMT

In article <BzE06s.M13@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v094px3a@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Brian Mauger) writes:
>In article <1992Dec17.005653.6339@abo.fi>, LCLAYHILLS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Leif Clayhills Mate) writes...
>>                           # <-ghost of lclayhil
>>      ghost of lclayhil-> #@ <-me (lclayhil)
>> 
>>        and I didn't have any teleport stuff yet... soo... i starved to death
>>there while the ghosts whaked eachothers yuppee....
>> 
>>soo can those darn ghost die at all ? 
>> 
>Sure.  You just need a good weapon.  They have a pretty low ac (-5, I think) and
>a fair number of hp.  Couldn't you go diagonally between them?
>
I think blessed weapons work (slightly) better against ghosts.
-- 
Peter Snelling
From: damong@coal.WPI.EDU (Damon F. Gentile)
Newsgroups: rec.games.hack
Subject: Re: errr how do I unzip files on a unix
Date: 19 Dec 1992 03:31:33 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: coal.wpi.edu

>: >How do you unzip the nhpp3src.zip file from a unix machine *BOGGLE*
>: 
>: You don't.  You need to ftp it over to a PC then unzip it there.
>: Don't forget to transfer in Bin mode!
>
>	Perhaps in GENERAL you don't but you CAN.

	Sure... just start with      MAN UNZIP
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From: saschreu@cs.vu.nl (Schreuder SA)
Subject: Re: YAFM (No, really!)
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:35:14 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.044341.1061@pyra.co.uk> dpeel@pyra.co.uk writes:
>Ok then, try these two:
>
>    "Don't be ridiculous"
>
>and "Don't even bother"
>
>They are both related, what am I? and how did I get them?
>
>Been playing for over two and a half years and only just managed to
>get these messages 2 hours ago, so I dont think you see them that often 
>:-)
>Cheers,
>
>Dave,
>
> (aka Nighthawk)

Simple one: You polymorphed into a large monster without hands/claws.
If you are large, and you try to wear armour, you get one of them,
I don't know which one, and when you polymorphed into a monster without
hands/claws, you will get the other when you try to wield a weapon.

Sjoerd Schreuder (saschreu@cs.vu.nl)
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From: rkelly@carina.unm.edu (Robert Kelly)
Subject: Re: Immortal troll ???!!!
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 05:04:25 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Dec16.120601.25551@cc.tut.fi> m115604@cc.tut.fi (Marjanen Kalle) writes:
>
>In dglv 23 I met an ordinary troll. I couldn't kill it with my 
>blessed +18 Excalibur and str 18/**. 
>
>I hit the #$%& troll 50 times and it just didn't lose a single hitpoint!!!
>
>There is nothing wrong with my sword, I'm capable to kill dragon with 2
>strikes, so what is that troll?


" Oops!  That's no Troll, that's your grandmother!  You wouldn't want to 
hurt your granny, would you?"


Robert Kelly
rkelly@triton.unm.edu
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"Argentina?"
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From: proudft@ocf.berkeley.edu (Thomas Michael Proudfoot)
Newsgroups: rec.games.hack
Subject: Re: nethack plus plus
Date: 13 Dec 1992 23:00:12 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: earthquake.berkeley.edu

In article <Bz7vG8.KEH@jabba.ess.harris.com> jcarl@jabba.ess.harris.com (Joe Carl Jr.) writes:
>I loaded the nethack plus plus down on to my PC and occasionally I get
>killed by trickery.  It happen once when I fell through a trap door on the
>2nd level and once when was going to the 4th level via a stair well.
>
>I don't know who to send this bug info to so I posted it here.
>
>By the way I wasn't cheating in any fasion when this happened
>
>--
>Joe Carl Jr.               "It ain't what a man don't know that makes him a
>jcarl@jabba.ess.harris.com   fool, but what he does know that ain't so."
>                                                           -- Josh Billings

Aha! I bet you put the new version in the same directory as your old,
overwriting the old .exes. If this is the case, delete your old bones
files. I'm sorry I forgot to mention this. If Nethack notices that the
auxilary files (bones, levels, rumors, etc.) are actually older than
the program it rather rudely bumps you off. Simply delete the bones files,
and you should be ok (I hope ;)).

Tom

-- 
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| Tom Proudfoot                                               |
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From: hyc@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Howard Chu)
Subject: Re: altars and alignment
Organization: SAR Systems Development & Processing, JPL
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:49:06 GMT

In article <BywwBC.14r@well.sf.ca.us> job@well.sf.ca.us (Steve McLellan) writes:
>So, how does one change the alignment of an altar? The spoilers talk of it
>but I can't find any mention of how to do it.

It takes a bit of luck. You have to sacrifice a corpse of the same alignment
as the altar, and you'll see a message about a struggle between the altar's
god and your god. Sometimes you win, and it converts, other times you lose.
-- 
  -- Howard Chu @ Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA

All true wisdom is conveyed in one-line witticisms.
From: gregs@eskimo.com (Greg Sumner)
Newsgroups: rec.games.hack
Subject: Re: Interesting...
Date: 13 Dec 92 22:05:15 GMT
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-

ztesler@nyx.cs.du.edu (Zachariah Tesler) writes:


>Hello fellas...

>a couple of useless gems -- what is it good for????/

>so, my question is, what is the worthless gems good for anyway?!?!?!?!?!

Not much.  Shop owners know if they're good or bad.  You can polymorph them
into real gems though, I think.  Otherwise they're just wasted room in your
pack.

I think there is a way you can throw one at a unicorn and gain some luck,
but only if you have not identified it as worthless yet.  This is not
advisable though, as you can easily identify a gem as "good" and then
throw it at your unicorn for +5 luck.

>I have the spoilers, but it didn't help. Is the commercial version 
>(the one ya have to pay) avaliable?
>still?

The "commercial" version is, I'm pretty sure, just the same spoiler file
laser printed and bound.  

Since you have the spoiler file, look up the section on gaining and losing
luck.  The gem question will be answered there.

-- 
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From: laruedm@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (David Larue)
Subject: YAFM #28329741 (or #1 for Nethack ++)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:20:57 GMT

HEHEHEhehehehahahahahahahohohoh...I was walking alonmg in NH++, and I quaff
from a sink...I turn into a small mimic...then I find a scroll...read it,
and a small mimic appears next to me...I hit alt-M to hide....So does the
small mimic...I wait for a while, then hit the small mimic (I'm still
hidden)...It appears but I don't.  It attacks me...


"Wait, small mimic!  That's a small mimic named Karlos!"

Cracked me up!

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From: el27166@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (This Space for Rent)
Subject: Nethack++ Abuses
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:30:57 GMT

Well it seems that some of the old abuses in Nethack have been taken
away in Nethack++!

Kicking a sink does nothing.

But the coolest new thing is that the shopkeeper notices if you kick
items out of the store!

However, there are NEW abuses you can try:
--- SPOILERS ---

I started as a wizard and had a spellbook of create monster in my
inventory when I started.  Later, I found a neutral altar to Thoth (Yay!).
So, I figured I'd get a few free sacrifices by creating some monsters
in the room to kill.

What I found out was that spells are much more powerful in Nethack++!
I cast that create monster spell over and over and over, but it never
got over-used.  By the time I was done, I had Giantslayer, Dragonsbane,
Frost Brand, and Fire Brand.  Only problem was, my poor wizard had a
strength of 8 and couldn't carry all of those macho weapons.  So I
left them in a chest and carried frost brand down into the lower dungeons.
And wouldn't you know it, there has to be a David's Zoo with a bunch
of ice trolls and elf lords to ruin your day.  *SIGH*  

The trick in nethack, as in life, is in learning how NOT to die.  So
far, i've been completely unsuccessful in nethack...

-- 
Eu-Ming Lee (aka CyberGeek)                      el27166@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
If you have nothing good to say, sit down, shut up, and post to USENET.
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From: aranta@milton.u.washington.edu (Aaron Ranta)
Subject: Nethack++ 3.0 (compression)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:41:54 GMT


quick question... what archiving utility was used to zip the file
nhpp30pc.zip at wuarchive.wustl.edu?

Assuming that this is the pc executable... then I'd have to further
assume it was archived using a pc archiving utility.. if so
which (pkzip?) and which version and can that be uploaded somewhere (I
probably have it, but just in case.)

danke.
Aaron.

Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.games.hack
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 09:55:30 -0500 
From: David Reeve Sward <sward+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: errr how do I unzip files on a unix

Excerpts from netnews.rec.games.hack: 15-Dec-92 Re: errr how do I unzip
fil.. by Joe Carl Jr.@jabba.ess.h 
> >How do you unzip the nhpp3src.zip file from a unix machine *BOGGLE*
>  
> You don't.  You need to ftp it over to a PC then unzip it there.
> Don't forget to transfer in Bin mode!

Or course you can.  You just need to get Info-Zip's unzip for Unix...

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From: scythe@stein.u.washington.edu (The Grim Reaper)
Subject: Re: Finishing - naked ?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 06:09:19 GMT

In article <breckner.724128806@hphalle6> breckner@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Till Breckner) writes:
>A few days ago I had this 30th-level-super-hero with 350 HPs, _all_ possible
>intrinsics, many spellbooks read (including identify, polymorph, about 10 times
>magic mapping), and of course all the useful stuff one can get by polypiling.
>Then I had this idea (unfortunately, after finishing the game): is it possible
>to win naked, i.e. teleporting down with nothing but intrinsics and spells  
>and never touching anything but the AoY while ascending ? Maybe it could have 
>worked with that hero; at least I can't see a reason why it shouldn't _in 
>principle_ be possible. Surely it is hard work without a weapon, not that good
>AC, no magic resistance, no possibility to avoid the endgame,.....
>I wonder if anybody has tried this yet. 
>
>PS: I always play with the 'hard'-option on.
>
>    Till Breckner         breckner@informatik.tu-muenchen.de

It's possible in theory.  But remember, you will have to kill some monsters
to get all the intrinsics, and obviously you should kill the Wiz.  It's
actually possible to not kill him... you could just push a boulder into the
moat, break through the wall, throw something at him to wake him up, then
walk past him, grab the amulet, and run.  But it would be tough.
In theory, it's possible.  In practice, pretty hard.
From: cyberman@exucom.com (Stephen R. Phillips)
Newsgroups: rec.games.hack
Subject: Re: Polypilling..
Date: 12 Dec 92 04:19:41 GMT
Organization: ExuCom MultiMedia Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]


Al Khoo (Al_Khoo@mindlink.bc.ca) wrote:
: I have tried polypiling dragon corpes before but none gave me any armour -
: just some other kind of food.  Is there a particular corpse that would turn
: into armour or is it just plain luck.
: 
You can only polypile to LIKE things.  For example if you have armour
it will become armour and Ditto with cursed stuff.  It will still be cursed.

: BTW, I haven't been in this newsgroup for a year. Any old-timer still here?
: 
: ps. Is the new hack (v3.1) out yet???

NO the late is a Neigh! :)


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From: piiro01@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Dave Rodriguez)
Subject: Re: Immortal troll ???!!!
Keywords: That cat should not be here when your mother is not!
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:23:50 GMT


>mtc@henry.ece.cmu.edu (Magnetic Technology Center) writes:

>> [m115604@cc.tut.fi (Marjanen Kalle) writes:]
>>
>>In dglv 23 I met an ordinary troll. I couldn't kill it with my 
>>blessed +18 Excalibur and str 18/**. 
>>
>>I hit the #$%& troll 50 times and it just didn't lose a single hitpoint!!!
>>
>>There is nothing wrong with my sword, I'm capable to kill dragon with 2
>>strikes, so what is that troll?
 
>there is a known bug in 3.0 code that allows trolls to regenerate with
>millions of hp's under _extremely_ rare circumstances (usually involving
>interrupted meals).  the mega-troll can be killed by any of the standard
>quick kill techniques ...
 
>you won't kill the mega-troll by just hitting it with Excalibur!
>perhaps, you'd better run away.
 
>  -Vooom-

   Actually, I've always felt that this is one of the most interesting bugs
in the game and I hope it may become a feature. I would prefer that the odds
of generating such a troll be such that one may encounter this phenomenon
fairly often. It's rather interesting to encounter monsters that one cannot 
simply dispatch with a wack or two of a +8 named weapon. 


                           David Rodriguez
   
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From: jcarl@jabba.ess.harris.com (Joe Carl Jr.)
Subject: Re: nethack ++, where is one that doesnt have errors?
Organization: Harris Corporation - ISD
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:58:08 GMT

In <Bz9ur4.x2@acsu.buffalo.edu> wmm@acsu.buffalo.edu (William M. Maciejewski) writes:

>I have tried to locate nhpp30pc.zip, on mcshh.hanse.de and the archive site
>and both of them have errors in them...! where can i find one that
>will actually unzip?
>-Bill

I had the same problem, until I realized I had ftp'ed them in ASCII format

Did you remember to transfer them in binary format?

Joe Carl
--
Joe Carl Jr.               "It ain't what a man don't know that makes him a
jcarl@jabba.ess.harris.com   fool, but what he does know that ain't so."
                                                           -- Josh Billings
From: rob@cad4.lbl.gov (Robert J. McNamara)
Newsgroups: rec.games.hack
Subject: Re: Error in ++ ?
Date: 19 Dec 1992 01:59:55 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Reply-To: rob@cad4.lbl.gov (Barracuda)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.252.177

In article <1992Dec18.155022.15921@klaava.Helsinki.FI> block@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Henri A Block) writes:
->This game is great.
->
->But... the new artifact Soulthief. 
->It drains levels also from minor demons (manes, tengu etc.) should this happen?
->I don't know for sure but does Stormy this? I don't think so.
->I thought that all demons, minor and major, and undeads are immune to
->level draining.

For undead I'd agree with ya...it shouldn't (like it didn't work in 
Nadsokor(sp) in book 2 or 3 (don't remember which))
For demons though, sure it should -- it worked on that demon on the walls of
Ashkaneloon (the one with a stone for a heart).

This is all assuming, of course, that Soulthief IS supposed to emulate
Stormy.


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From: smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~)
Subject: Where can I find Nethack+
Originator: smintz@sedona
Reply-To: arentzis@sedona.intel.com
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:07:21 GMT


are there any PC BBSes with Nethack plus, perferably at 9600+ bps?
-- 

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From: m115604@cc.tut.fi (Marjanen Kalle)
Subject: >Immortal troll???!!!
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Finland
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 10:52:26 GMT


The fate of Mega-Troll was bad indeed. I get angry and genocided the whole race
of such things... 

Troll did become a Mega-Troll after interrupted meal.

Well, now to the next question: Is there anything  I can do if game tells me:
  
             Plural of nulls, perhaps you should quit.

(Something like that...)(without quitting of course)

Every creature and item in the game was changed to something weird like:
unlkj +3 bootd of fire esistance

PS. +18 Excalibur was created without any cheating: I just read those enchant
weapon scrolls :)



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             .............................
             : Kalle Marjanen            :         
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From: jcarl@jabba.ess.harris.com (Joe Carl Jr.)
Subject: Re: nethack plus plus
Organization: Harris Corporation - ISD
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:18:41 GMT

In <1ggf9sINNfg6@agate.berkeley.edu> proudft@ocf.berkeley.edu (Thomas Michael Proudfoot) writes:

>In article <Bz7vG8.KEH@jabba.ess.harris.com> jcarl@jabba.ess.harris.com (Joe Carl Jr.) writes:
>>I loaded the nethack plus plus down on to my PC and occasionally I get
>>killed by trickery.  It happen once when I fell through a trap door on the
>>2nd level and once when was going to the 4th level via a stair well.
>>
>>I don't know who to send this bug info to so I posted it here.
>>
>>By the way I wasn't cheating in any fasion when this happened
>>
>>--
>>Joe Carl Jr.               "It ain't what a man don't know that makes him a
>>jcarl@jabba.ess.harris.com   fool, but what he does know that ain't so."
>>                                                           -- Josh Billings

>Aha! I bet you put the new version in the same directory as your old,
>overwriting the old .exes. If this is the case, delete your old bones
>files. I'm sorry I forgot to mention this. If Nethack notices that the
>auxilary files (bones, levels, rumors, etc.) are actually older than
>the program it rather rudely bumps you off. Simply delete the bones files,
>and you should be ok (I hope ;)).

>Tom

Nethack Plus Plus is in its own directory.

My directory structure is: games--+--- nethack (original)
                                  |
                                  +--- nhpp (nethack plus plus)

I do seem to get my score showing up on the old high score list though!

Perhaps the source is pointing to a particular structure?
--
Joe Carl Jr.               "It ain't what a man don't know that makes him a
jcarl@jabba.ess.harris.com   fool, but what he does know that ain't so."
                                                           -- Josh Billings
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From: "steve ginter" <steve.ginter@canrem.com>
Subject: yafm
Reply-To: "steve ginter" <steve.ginter@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:19:44 EST

In the last game I played my dog was polymorphed into a iron golem.  It
was great while he lasted, he could kill shopkeepers in 2 or 3 swats and
would clean out throne rooms before I even got there.  Then, as I
entered a room he stepped on a rust trap and I got the message,

"May Cicero rust in peace."

-Steve
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