HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy))
Subject: Re: Workspace Disk Eject bug: Workaround available from NeXT
In-reply-to: madler@cco.caltech.edu's message of 10 Oct 1992 00:30:28 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Department of Physics, UC Irvine, CA 92717-4575, USA
Date: 10 Oct 92 04:53:05 GMT

In article <1b5874INNok@gap.caltech.edu> madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) writes:


!   However (and the main reason for this post) is that I discovered
!   that the fix only applies to the user who launched the daemom, since
!   that daemon changes the defaults database for just that user.  Even
!   if the user is root.  So, you can put it in /usr/local/bin or maybe
!   /LocalApps, but you have to have every user run it once to set the
!   Workspace default.  Or maybe you could write something to go do the
!   dwrite's automatically.  Or maybe NeXT will make a more global fix.
!   (I sent this comment to Matt Watson.)

Would launching the daemon from rc.local be a solution? (I would guess
not, since it affects the Workspace.app --- or whatever it's called). 
Alternatively, could one put it in every users .login? 

--
Hardy 
-----
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e-mail: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (preferred) or MMAYER@UCI.BITNET
From: frank@glocke.hotb.sub.org (Frank Thomas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Kernel patches continued... (Was: Ramdisk coming for NeXT)
Date: 15 Oct 92 07:31:42 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.093218.18245@ITcorp.com> geoff@ITcorp.com (Geoff  
Kuenning) writes:
> In article <1992Aug18.091316.29278@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE>  
meyergru@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Uwe Meyer-Gruhl) writes:
> maxphys		??? Usually it's the address of the highest byte 
maxphys is number of bytes that can be read at once through the device  
driver.
Oops: Just wanted to read the variable again in the NMI-monitor but this  
seems to be removed in 3.0! In knew it was there in 2.1 it was set to  
0x2000.


Frank
From: yoda@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Terry Lee)
Subject: Looking for on-line real-time Stock and Options market services
Organization: Residential Computing, Stanford University
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 92 03:44:04 GMT

I'm looking for a source for getting stock and options market prices on-line
for real time data analysis.  I have heard of a couple different resources.
What are my options and what will give me the best performance at a reasonable
price?  I've heard of FNN signal receivers, but I really don't know anything
about them.  Is there any way to access information via internet?  (I image
not since it would be something that needs to be broadcasted to many
destinations.

My second question is how can I perform near instantaneous transactions
of stocks and stock options?  Are there any brokers who provide a fast
enough on-line service to perform real time transactions?  If not,
what do I need to do to be able to perform such transactions
(like get a broker's license and subscribe to some market service).
An internet accessible service would ber very desirable here.

Any information would be much appreciated.

Terry Lee
yoda@deathstar.stanford.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: lacsap@plethora.media.mit.edu (Pascal Chesnais)
Subject: Re: Recovering ROM monitor password
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:13:23 GMT

In article <1ask66INN2ga@ustores.ustores.missouri.edu>  
usbill@ustores.ustores.missouri.edu (Bill Canning) writes:
> 	Put the battery in the opposite way for 2 or 3 seconds. (Or simply
> 	leave it out for a while.)


DO NOT DO REVERSE THE BATTERY!!!!  Name me one NeXT document
that states this should be done.

pasc
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Workspace Disk Eject bug: Workaround available from NeXT
Date: 10 Oct 1992 07:07:25 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu


Side note: the patch also fixes another bug--the overzealous Eject
menu item that would light even if no ejectable media is selected.
If you chose Eject, it would eject a random one of the three (OD,
CD, Floppy).  Now it only lights if a removable media is selected.

Mark Adler
madler@cco.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld)
Subject: Re: Built-In 3.0 Drivers for Non-PS Printers??
Organization: Cleveland State University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:30:58 GMT

Paul Lynch (paul@seer.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <1992Oct6.212753.28342@ee.gatech.edu> lockhart@eecom.gatech.edu  
: (John B. Lockhart) writes:
: > 
: > Could someone please comment on all this and tell me where I can find  
: docs
: > on it, so that I can start work on a 500C description file, instead of a
: > machportdevice-using C program?  EPS, are you there??
: > 
: 
: It's there, all right.  Lots and lots of extra printers.  I think that  
: these only show up if you install the Documentation package from the  
: CD-ROM, which is not automatically done for you.
: 
: Paul
: -- 
Hmmm .... two questions:

1. Do you need the CD-ROM player to install the drivers?  considering that
these CD-ROM players are hopelessly backlogged, and considering the fact
that we may not see 3.0 for QUITE a long time, this is not so promising for
many of us caught in the crunch.

2. What cable configuration does a standard parallel printer use (saw none
in the FAQ)?  I think we will eventually be ordering some of these cables
for our Epsons and IBM Proprinters.

Thanks for anything on this.

Joe
--

________

Joe Rosenfeld                              cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu
Automation Librarian                      joer@inca.law.csuohio.edu
Cleveland State University Law Library

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sjpark@leland.stanford.edu (Sang Ju Park)
Subject: DialUp-IP Questions
Organization: DSG, Stanford University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 17:19:03 GMT

Hello.

I have a couple of questions on TransSys DialUp IP.
(Thanks to Louis Mamakos for putting such a great program in PD)

What is the command that I have to use to bring down the slip
manually while retaining the dial on demand feature ?
I used "slipdown" that came with the package, but after using
that script, I have to bring it up mannually with "slipup"
command.  Better yet, is there any way of bring down the slip
link and disconnect the modem (hayes compatible) quickly ?  Currently 
I have to turn off the modem if I need to use the telephone immediately.
I'm runnig it on 3.0 machine if that matters.

And what's the meaning of WTIMEO variable in duioctl ?  How
is it different from ATIMEO ?

Forgive me if these are trival questions.

Thanks in advance.

--- Sang Ju Park (sjpark@leland.stanford.edu)
From: cue@apple.com (Eddy Cue)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Apple LaserWriter
Date: 8 Oct 92 07:03:51 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

What do I need to do to print from a NeXT to an Apple Laserwriter hooked up
on an Ethernet network?

Eddy Cue
cue@apple.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: pgriffin@uful07.phys.ufl.edu (Paul A. Griffin)
Subject: What causes the GUI's slowness under 3.0?
Summary: Is the GUI's slowness a bug or a feature?
Keywords: 3.0
Organization: University of Florida, Gainesville
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 03:25:53 GMT

a. Does anyone out there (maybe someone at NeXT) know the 
exact problem that causes the 10-30% performance degradation
of NeXTSTEP's GUI running under 3.0? I have read alot about this
problem on this newgroup.

b. Is this due to an added feature that existing applications do 
not take advantage of, or is this a bug?

c. If it is a bug, is there a simple fix that an end user, or system
administator can implement?  Does NeXT plan on releasing the bug fix
before 3.1 arrives?

d. If the slowdown comes from a feature of 3.0, can applications be "speeded 
up" by recompiling under 3.0?  What specifically is the feature that causes 
the slowdown?

I just recently upgraded my "turtle" (coined by Scott Hess) nextstation 
'40 25 mhz from 8 to 20 mb of ram and really enjoy the increased snappiness 
of the GUI.  I don't want to upgrade to 3.0 and find that the machine feels 
like it has only 8 mb.

-- Paul Griffin

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Subject: Re: _nextstep_ television show!
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 14:29:06 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.193847.1022@mattcube> matt%mattcube@mcnc.org (Matthew M.  
Stecker) writes:
..
> 
> 	 Now it is true that the NeXT trademark is not quite as strong in the  
> minds of the consuming public as the CocaCola TM, but NeXT is a high  
technology  
> product, and the show is about high-technology.  It could at least be argued  
> that a consumer looking in the TV listings and seeing the name 'nextstep' on  
a  
> TV show might think that the show was somehow affiliated with NeXT. There is  
> probably no reason that NeXT would want to go after and enjoin this use, and  
no  
> clear indication that they would win, but they would certainly have a shot.
> 
> 	matt
> 
BUT, if they were to believe the above, that the public could confuse it in  
that fashion, or that the connection was there due to the high tech image of  
the show, and then fail to take action, they could lose the ability to ever  
defend the trademark.

> 
> -- 
> matt stecker			|	This is my NeXT Computer
> NeXT Campus Consultant,		|	There are many like it,
> UNC School of Law		|	but this one is mine.


Jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: fl1ger@rrz.de (Ralf  Weber)
Subject: Re: BUG: Font Panel's font list is broken under 3.0
Organization: Rhein-Rechenzentrum GmbH, Koblenz, Germany
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 23:21:08 GMT

In article <DEMARCO.92Oct4140014@fsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>  
demarco@fsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Vince Demarco) writes:
> lbrahm@denver.cba.du.edu (Lans Brahmantyo) Writes:
> >I have more than 300 fonts that are usually available under the
> >Font Panel 2.1. However, after isntalling 3.0 and did buildafmdir
> >again, only all fonts before Times are displayed/listed (my Tekton,
> >Zapf Dingbats, Zapf Chancery, etc did not show up). I checked the
> >.fontdirectory files (in NextLibrary/Fonts and /LocalLibrary/Fonts)
> >and they do not contain the fontname further than Times.
> 
> I had the same problem, the fix is to get buildafmdir from your 2.X
> disk, and install and use the old version of the program instead.
> 
> This bug was in PR2 also, but it seems that either no-one reported it
> or NeXT didn't bother to fix it.

Why did you use buildafmdir? If I incorporate new fonts into my system  
I simply start up any application that uses the FontPanel, then there  
comes a message that the system had found new fonts, and after a few  
moments (depends on the amount of fonts, I guess you have to wait a few  
minutes for 300) the panel goes away and you can use the new fonts.

BTW, we didn't change anything on or fonts when upgrading to 3.0, they  
are still located on a 2.1 server, and work fine under 3.0

Hope this helps
--
Ralf Weber			E-Mail:	fl1ger@rrz.de
Rhein-Rechenzentrum GmbH	(NeXTMail preferred)
August-Horch-Strasse 28		CompuServe: 100024,1253
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D-W5400 Koblenz, Germany	Fax:	+49 261 892-525
From: arzt@dccs.upenn.edu (Noam H. Arzt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: News Readers for NS 3.0 and other bitches
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:28:05 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.111358.19692@prodigy.bc.ca> jchin@prodigy.bc.ca (Joe  
Chin) writes:
> Okay ... I upgraded the production systems to 3.0, I am impressed by all  
the new bells and whistles and imaginative abuses of colours ...
> 
> But then I found out neither Newsbase 2.1.1 nor NewsGrazer will work!  
Both readers will start up and select the groups just fine, but the  
application will disappear from the screen the moment I select an article  
for reading. So, I have resorted to reading news on a Sun Sparcstation  
sitting beside the NeXT. Does anyone know a NeXTstep nntp newsreader that  
will work under 3.0?
> 

I just upgraded to 3.0, and I'm having no problems with newsGrazer. And  
I'm even posting this over a SLIP connection!

--
Mr. Noam Arzt                            215/898-3029 (voice)
Director, Special Projects               215/898-9348 (FAX)
University of Pennsylvania               arzt@dccs.upenn.edu
Data Communications & Computing Services (NeXTmail is OK)
Suite 221A, 3401 Walnut Street, Philadelphia, PA 19104

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Subject: Re: On SW for NRW
Reply-To: bwebster@pages.com
Organization: Banzai Research Institute
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 07:18:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.180935.17530@athena.mit.edu> jgshir@athena.mit.edu (John G  
Shirlaw) writes:
> 
> 
> Given that NeXT clames that I forget who but one of the major vendor managed  
to
> port there software to NS486 in less than a day.  I would guess/hope that the
> same porting situation will occure with the NRW.  Thus unless the companies
> making the software using porgramming languidges other than C and IB  
shouldn't be
> a problem on porting.
> 

It took Peter Linss (one of our engineers) a day and a fraction to get the  
current Pages build up and running under NS-486.  The day was because we were  
still developing under NS 3.0 PR2, and NeXT cleverly made some changes (between  
PR2 and 3.0 gold!) as to how ProjectBuilder project trees and makefiles have to  
be set up. It took a while to track down just what the problem was, then to  
change over our entire project tree (which has some 20-odd subprojects in it).  
The fraction was to track down the only incompatibility (3DKit wasn't yet  
ported over to NS-486), put conditional comments around the code using 3DKit  
methods, and recompile. Voila!

Having figured all that out, it take about about two hours to port any current  
build over to NS-486, which is how long it takes to recompile our NS-68k source  
code from scratch. It Just Works(tm).

In article <1992Oct11.064357.4792@serveme.chi.il.us> datec@gagme.chi.il.us  
(Charles Robinson) writes:
> 
> Fat binaries (like those planned for NextStep 486) should solve your concern.
> Basically the (incompatable) binaries are packaged together and NextStep
> figures out which one to load. Developers will, as I understand the current
> situation, be forced to compile on each native system (no cross compilers
> will be available for the 486).
> 

I'd be real surprised if that were true, since the Gnu compiler can emit code  
for just about every processor known to man. (OK, I exaggerate, but not by  
much.) In fact, rumor has it that there are NeXTSTEP development teams in the  
world today who use non-NeXT, non-68k, high-end workstations as "compiler  
servers" for building NeXTSTEP-68k software. (No, it's not us--though I wish it  
were, given the current build time for our software.) If that limitation (no  
cross compilers) *does* turn out to be the case, it's a marketing decision, not  
a technical one. ..bruce..

Bruce F. Webster
CTO, Pages Software Inc.
bwebster@pages.com
#import <pages/disclaimer.h>
From: roy@adeptsln.cts.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Appsoft Image & scanner driver question
Date: 8 Oct 92 04:03:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: adeptsln.1992Oct8.040351.479
Reply-To: roy@adeptsln.cts.com

In article <1992Sep29.162540.25815@adobe.com> byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer)  
writes:
> Michael B. Johnson writes
> 
> > Barring that, does anyone know if Appsoft Image will be able to
> > directly control a scanner, ala PhotoShop's drop in filters for
> > scanners?  This would really open up third party scanners to the
> > NeXT. Of course I forgot to ask anyone from Appsoft at Seybold...
> 
> Image does have plug-ins for scanner control, and will eventually
> have 'Twain' drivers according to what I was told.
> 

To throw my two cents in: 
Second Glance, who currently sells ScanTastic, will be writing scanner & image  
manipulation filters for Appsoft Image. Scantastic is a scanning/image  
manipulation software package that currently supports the HP ScanJet IIc, the  
EpsonES300-c (LaCie), the Microtek600Z, the NikonLS3510 slide scanner, and soon  
the Apple One and the EpsonGT8000 (1600 dpi).

ScanTastic, though, is available NOW and fully supports services. (So you can  
use it when Image comes out anyhow!) ScanTastic is sold through NeXTConnection,  
and directly.

Roy Lovejoy

<< disclaimer: I'm the author of ScanTastic ;) >>
-- 
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Software Philosopher | AppleLink: adept
Adept Solutions      | CIS:       72447,1447
.....................| dual certified developer: NeXT & Apple ;)
From: coco@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (felix.lugo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: *.compressed (Was: Workspace Disk Eject bug: Workaround available from NeXT)
Date: 11 Oct 92 22:11:41 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Oct11.021534.12216@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> coco@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (felix.lugo) writes:
>In article <HARDY.92Oct10182123@golem.ps.uci.edu> hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy)) writes:
>>A related question: the  DiskEjecFix.compressed announced in
>>Matt_Watson@NeXT.com's post came with a nics "compressed" tiff. 
>>Just clicking on it uncompressed it. Is this a new feature in 3.0
>>different from uunix compress,  and how do you make "file.compressed" 
>>files? (In case you say RTFM -- I installed 3.0 with a borrowed CD-ROM
>>drive, and did not copy all the documentation to disk. When I get my
>>CD-ROM-player in November I will certainly RTFM). 
>>
>>--
>>Hardy 
>>-----
>>Meinhard E. Mayer,  Department of Physics, UC Irvine 
>>e-mail: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (preferred) or MMAYER@UCI.BITNET
>>
>
>	It's a new feature!  New .compressed files are created by using tar
>and compress.  Since Workspace is not capable of recognizing .tar.Z, they
>decided to call them .compressed (although .tar_Z, or maybe .tarZ would have
>been easily recognizable).
>
>--Felix
>
>BTW,	Workspace also knows about .Z (compressed) files, but not .tar!  8^(
>

	One correction, Workspace does know about .tar!  Thanks Art Isbell!

--Felix
Xref: sparky comp.sys.next.misc:20742 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:5756 comp.sys.next.programmer:6565
From: Matt_Watson@next.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Workspace Disk Eject bug: Workaround available from NeXT
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:17:08 GMT
Reply-To: Matt_Watson@next.com
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc

NeXT has made available an RTFD document containing a brief description  
along with a workaround for a 3.0 Workspace bug affecting the Disk->eject  
menu.  It is available via anonymous FTP at NeXT.COM (129.18.1.2) in the  
/pub/Binaries directory as DiskEjectFix.compressed.  It will uncompress  
into an RTFD document which includes the executable program, and a  
description of how to install it.  A checksum (using /usr/bin/sum) of  
DiskEjectFix.compressed returns:

64183   8

Briefly, it is an executable that installs itself in the (undocumented)  
Workspace LaunchPaths default the first time it is launched.  Subsequent  
logins will cause this daemon to be executed, tickling the Workspace to  
initialize data which, when uninitialized, leads to this bug.

If you are writing an application that requests icons from the Workspace,  
and don't want to depend on this workaround, you can use the  
NXWorkspaceRequest protocol (as described in  
/NextLibrary/NextDev/GeneralRef/02_ApplicationKit/Protocols/
NXWorkspaceRequestProtocol.rtf) and send a "getInfoForFileSystemAt:
isRemovable:isWritable:isUnmountable:description:type:" message to  
[Application workspace] in or after the appDidInit: method.

--
Matt Watson
NeXT Computer, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Workspace Disk Eject bug: Workaround available from NeXT
Organization: P & L Systems
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 13:51:51 GMT

In article <1992Oct09.230057.3967@news.mentorg.com> brianc@dc_scom (Brian  
Caslis @ SST) writes:
> This is great news, but... For those of use without ftp access could
> this fix be put somewhere that we could email to get it?

What news?  Was this a followup to a "Distribution: na" post, by any  
chance?

Paul
-- 
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P & L Systems                   (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501                      paull@cix.compulink.co.uk
Fax: (0494)680228                       76711.451@compuserve.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Subject: Re: Mathematica Book / CD-ROM
Reply-To: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan Math Dept
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:29:41 GMT

In article <7963@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> greg@brooks.async.vt.edu (Greg Foliente)  
writes:
> In article <1992Oct8.153920.12052@lsa.umich.edu> Hal.Varian@umich.edu  
> writes:
> > In article <1992Oct8.151054.28897@uni-paderborn.de>  
> huhr@uni-paderborn.de  
> > > - And at last: What other good books about Mathematica do you know?

Another book I like is Stan Wagon's book "Mathematica in Action", by Stan  
Wagon, W. H. Freeman, ISBN 0-7167-2202-X (paper).

--
Hal.Varian@umich.edu    Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364     Dept of Economics
fax:   313-764-2364     Univ of Michigan
                        Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220