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From: cantwell@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Jeff Cantwell)
Subject: Laptops with CD-ROM
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:52:24 GMT

I am looking for a laptop with a built in CD-ROM. I'd settle for a
laptop with a plug in CD-ROM. Can you do this with any of the
386-based laptops?  Also, I am familiar with Sony's soon to be
released CD-ROM XA player with a 4.5 " diag.  screen, a qwerty
keyboard, a NEC V-20 processor, and DOS in ROM. Are there any other
similar machines from other manufacturers?

-Jeff


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From: georget@spider.co.uk (George Taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Reeves plc Computers
Summary: Thinking of getting Notebook.
Keywords: Recommendations, warnings, advice
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:58:14 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK


I'm currently looking through the computer press in search of a
laptop/notebook PC. I've found one which appears to be very powerfull for its
price and with a lot of nice features.

Of course this makes me suspicous!

Being totally new to this area of computing, I'd like any advice anyone
would be willing to give on what to look for and what to avoid. Plus
warnings/complements, if you know anything about the machine I'm considering.

The machine I'm considering is sold by "Reeves PLC" and is from their
"DX Notebook range". It's advertised in this months "PC Direct" and
"Computer Shopper".

The configuration is something like this: (From the ad and a telephone
conversation I had with them.)

From the ad:

40MHz 80386DX Processor
128-256Khz cache memory.
4Mb RAM expandable to 20Mb.
2.5" 60Mb Hard Disc (You can have 60, 80 or 120M drives).
Optional internal Data Fax Modem.
3.5", 1.44M, floppie.
LCD 640x480, ccft (Whats ccft? Anyone got anything against this?)
64 grey shades.
Handy scanner port.
Parallel, serial, mouse & SCSI II ports.
1hr turbocharge AC adaptor.
Supports 800x600 16 colours external monitor (Fine by me, I don't need any
better - I've read the previous thread on this newsgroup concerning video
RAM size)

From my questioning of them:

You can add a F.P. Co-Pro. ie. 80387. (This I might need)
It has an external Keyboard connector (Important for me.)
Comes with rechargeable batteries and battery charger.
Has 256K video RAM. Forgot to ask if this could be increased.
Comes with carrying case, etc.
Doesn't come with any software (Not a problem for me)


Now the bit that makes me VERY suspicous.
The price in the magazines for the one I'm keen on (60Mb HDD), is
1099 quid (ex VAT). On phoning they say it's now 999 quid.

Fire away people....

George

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From: judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Mac error type 33
Date: 30 Sep 92 03:26:54 GMT

O.K., I think I've narrowed down the error I've been having with my Powerbook
140 to Appleshare.  It seems that when this extension is active, and I awake
it from sleep, it gives me error type 33 and occasionally will crash.  
However, when It is not running and I wake it from sleep, it does not give
an error.  However, it still occasionally, though less frequently, crashes.
I've used Appleshare quite a bit before this problem arose, and I very very
infrequently had system crashes.
Does this problem sound familiar?  Does anybody know the solution?  If so,
could you please E-mail me?
Thanks



--
"I drank what?" -- Socrates

judson@watserv.ucr.edu
From: jrg@doc.ic.ac.uk (James Grinter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: Cambridge Z80
Date: 1 Oct 92 17:59:32 GMT
	<1992Sep30.111600.17808@ccsun.strath.ac.uk>
Organization: /homes/jrg/.organization
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In-reply-to: madmal@spd.eee.strathclyde.ac.uk's message of 30 Sep 92 11:16:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.111600.17808@ccsun.strath.ac.uk> madmal@spd.eee.strathclyde.ac.uk (Malachy Devlin - SPD) writes:
Path: doc.ic.ac.uk!uknet!strath-cs!str-ccsun!newton!madmal
   From: madmal@spd.eee.strathclyde.ac.uk (Malachy Devlin - SPD)
   Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
   Date: 30 Sep 92 11:16:00 GMT
   References: <1992Sep29.073407.23596@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
   Sender: madmal@spd.eee.strathclyde.ac.uk
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   In article <1992Sep29.073407.23596@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> scasterg@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stuart M Castergine) writes:
   >Does anybody know about the the Cambridge Z80 -- a little notebook-sized
   >portable, not dos or anything-else compatible, kind of like the Tandy
   >102. Is it still made? Where can it be bought? What price is it going
   >for these days?

   I think you are talking about the Z88, which I don't think is made  anymore
   as the company as Amstrad now own it, however Amstrad have revised it

It is in fact totally different to the Z88 and unconnected as far as
companies go. (he did sell Sinclair to Amstrad, but that's another
story). The Amstrad machine is not as good as the Z88, and is
basically a pale imitation. I do believe Cambridge Computer was sold
to someone else, or that Sir Clive just kept a small stake or something.

Z88s can be bought from a few shops for about 100 pounds, but they
don't actually make them anymore. 

James.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: big@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Alan Porter)
Subject: 286 laptop for sale
Organization: Computer and Technologies Theme Program, NCSU, Raleigh
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 22:06:30 GMT


286-16 laptop (Bondwell B310-V)
-------------------------------
16 MHz processor, 1 Mb RAM
1.44 Mb floppy, 40 Mb hard disk
2 serial, 1 parallel, 1 game
640x480 16-shade VGA backlit LCD
89 key keyboard
wieghs about 8 pounds
uses 6 C-size rechargable batteries
converter for 110V/220V AC

Only nine months old
Advertized new in Computer Shopper for $839
I'm asking $650

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         address: 104-A Darlena Court, Cary NC 27511 USA
     home phone: (919) 481-4255    work phone: (919) 481-8161
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From: lauren@vortex.COM (Lauren Weinstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: backlight technology
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:23:04 GMT
Organization: Vortex Technology

Greetings.  One spec I never see listed for modern notebooks is the
expected MTBF for the backlight/sidelight.  What is the technology
used for this purpose these days?  What is its expected lifetime?
Does running the light source at a lower intensity level significantly
increase the life?

--Lauren--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.palmtops
From: god@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: Telecomm program (DOS) that does cut/paste ?
Date: 3 Oct 92 22:07:46 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Well Alan if you made it this far you should be able to find a copy of
Telemate (now at version 3.10 or thereabouts)  The zip files are
called TM310-1.zip TM310-2.zip and TM310-3.zip, and it does cut and
paste just fine thank you very much (in addition to about anything
else you'd like to do).

John D. Altevogt                                  Altevogt@UKANVM
Department of Sociology                    God@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
University of Kansas                        (913) 542-2096 (home)
Lawrence, KS 66045                           (913) 864-4111 (off)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: lutzeb@cs.tu-berlin.de (Dirk Lutzebaeck)
Subject: 486 SunRace HyperBook available? Experiences?
Organization: Computer Science Department, Technical University Berlin, Germany
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 11:47:01 GMT

Hi,

does anyone know if the 486 Hyperbook from SunRace is already
available somewhere (esp. in Germany) and how much will it cost?

specs: 486DX/33, 256k cache, 80/120MB disk, 4-20MB ram, 64 greyscale LCD,
opt. internal modem, SCSI-2 port (!), Handy Scanner port, 11"x8.7"x2.2",
< 7lbs, fast charging accu (60 min), 1.5-2.5h use

Has anybody has some experiences with HyperBooks?


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Xref: sparky comp.sys.laptops:3830 misc.forsale.computers:35953 misc.forsale.wanted:373
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Monday, 5 Oct 1992 12:51:07 MST
From: <AUWAC@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.wanted
Subject: great reasons to sell me your pb100

hi all.  for those of you anticipating the new greyscale powerbooks, here's a
chance to dump your pb100 before the price really falls out.  (actually, i come
up with a different reason each time i post.)
how does this sound as an offer for a *used* pb100:
2/20:  $675
4/20:  $735
2/40:  $825
4/40:  $885

that's a lot of dough to fork over for a used system, but i would like to get
one.  please send me your offers.  I can pay cash cod right away.


thanks,
bill colliins

p.s.  your pb100 could blow up any day now.  sell it before it's too late.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: jeff@eng.umd.edu (Jeffrey Frey)
Subject: Tote-a-L's numbers
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 12:48:58 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

Found the phone number.  It's

Tote-a-Lap
550 Pilgrim Drive, Ste. #F
Foster City, CA 94404

T - 415-578-1901      FAX - 415-578-1914

Jeff
From: 89612220s@csghsg5a.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Installing a math-coprozessor (Y/N)?
Date: 4 Oct 92 17:57:08 GMT
Organization: University of St.Gallen, Switzerland

I'm interrested in installing a math coprocessor in my Commodore C386SX-LT
Notebook (16 Mhz 80386SX).

Can anyone who has specific/general experience with this type of operation
please give me some Hihnts?

I'm puzzled by several questions:
- how much will a math coprozessor influence battery-life? I understand those
processors are very powerhungry?
- I've heard that there is a special 'XL' (low power consumption) version of
the 80287. Is there also one of the 80386SX?
- How much advantaga does Windows 3.1 take of the presence of such a processor?
(I've heard numbers from 80% to 150%) Please note I mean Windows by itself.
It's clear that applications like Excel oder Winword look for an coprozessor
automatically and use it if present

Thanks for your help!

Regards
Hubert
From: roise@sumax.seattleu.edu (Linda Roise)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: Problems with my QBlazer
Date: 4 Oct 92 15:45:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: sumax.ROISE.92Oct4084529
	<1992Sep30.133538.25098@news.uit.no>
Organization: Seattle University
In-reply-to: tore@cs.uit.no's message of 30 Sep 92 13:35:38 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.133538.25098@news.uit.no> tore@cs.uit.no (Tore Larsen) writes:

   My Telebit QBlazer (S/N: QB 22704) does not return any responses to my
   notebook computer (Compudyne 4DX/33).

   . . .

   Is there any sort of "hard reset" for the modem?

Well, Telebits are different from Hayes, but I know the Hayes string,
to add to the initialization string to reset to factory specs, is &f
-- couldn't hurt to try it.  I hope someone can give you the non-800
number.  I suppose one of us could call for you and e-mail you the
results.  I'd volunteer, but I'm not familiar with the Telebit
standard.  Anyone who knows Telebit willing to call for him?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Telnet Slip for PowerBook
From: fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov (Fred McKenzie)
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:02:58 EST
Followup-To: comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.mac.hardware
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA/Kennedy Space Center, Florida

In article <1992Sep24.183506.23191@eng.umd.edu>, hsu@eng.umd.edu (Dave "bd"
Hsu) wrote:
> 
> On another note, does anybody know if NCSA Telnet 2.5's built-in
> drivers can handle SLIP, that is, without MacTCP?  I've re-read
> chapters 4, 8 and 9 countless times and find them to be hopelessly
> incomplete.  Aside from the expense, I'd like to keep all the memory
> I reclaimed from the system networking extensions when I applied
> tune-up 1.1.1.  KA9Q works fine, but lacks CSLIP support and a proper
> terminal emulator.

dave-

I have no experience with the subject of PowerBooks or SLIP.  I wondered if
you were aware that the config.tel file for Telnet 2.5 includes a
"hardware" statement?

hardware=MacTCP
# "hardware=" required for MacTCP in v2.4.16+
#    values are: MacTCP, AppleTalk, Ether
#    Ether<n>, EtherSE, EtherSC, Serial

I assume that SLIP involves a serial port.

fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: buccb@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Carlos Dragonslayer Butler)
Subject: Sharp PC7200 CMOS setup
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:35:56 GMT

	I have a client who has a Sharp PC-7200 portable and appears
to have lost his CMOS setup information. It doesn't recognize it's
hard drive anymore. As you can imagine, there is no manual to be found 
anywhere. If anyone can give me the technique to access the CMOS and
the original drive specs (he says it's the original), I would greatly
appreciate it.


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            Dragonslayer by birthright and heir to the throne.
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From: jcallen@marley.think.com (Jerry Callen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Gateway 425dxl experience?
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:28:33
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: marley.think.com

Hi folks,

I'd be interested to hear people's experience with Gateway's 425dxl. I'm
trying to decide whether to return mine for a swap or just get my money
back.

The problem? Severe sensitivity to static electricity. There are several
spots that, when touched after building up a static charge, will cause the
machine to reboot. One of these is the slot in the lower right hand corner
of the case, which is excatly where the palm of my hand likes to land. :-(

I might just have a lemon; other than this (admittedly awful) flaw, I like
the machine, so I'd like to hear from other 425dxl owners.
--
-- Jerry Callen
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: 861033h@dragon.acadiau.ca (Michael S. Hogan)
Subject: Re: Portable sound
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:29:40 GMT

tligman@andy.bgsu.edu (thomas ligman) writes:

>I am interested in finding out about this devices as well.  Any
>information would be immensly appreciated.

I might as well jump on the bandwagon too.

Thanks in advance.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: presiden@fraser.sfu.ca (Pat Presidente)
Subject: Re: IBM L40SX
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 23:03:47 GMT

Nick Laflamme <NLAFLAMM@vma.cc.nd.edu> writes:

>I've got a L40sx with 10M and the 60M hard drive running OS/2 2.0.  I'm
>using it mostly as a home machine with an external modem and sometimes
>as a luggable when I'm traveling.  Battery life isn't really an issue
>with me; I'm usually able to bring my power adapter and use it
>conveniently.

>10M are fine for OS/2.  60M of disk space is a little small, but not
>awful.  I've got the trackball, which took some getting used to, but I'm
>used to it now and like it.

>My biggest complaint, and this is probably my fault for not pursuing
>this with IBM or on the net, is that the OS/2 power saver device driver
>supplied with the L40sx doesn't work with OS/2 2.0; my machine locks up
>solid.  (Anyone got a fix for this?)

>Otherwise, I'm very happy with the L40sx as an OS/2 machine.  Sure beats
>the pants off the 8M PS/2 55sx in my office at work.  :-)

>Nick

I also tried to hook in the power device driver - same thing - LOCKUP.
A friend of mine just purchased an L40Sx while mine was purchased over
a year ago.  I was hoping to see a new reference disk - no such luck.

I have an 80 meg drive on mine which I would recommend (at least) for
OS/2.  I could definitely use more.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: vulture@carrion.cc.ic.ac.uk (Thomas Sippel - Dau)
Subject: Re: Local bus video on Notebooks, is it possible?
Reply-To: cmaae47@cc.ic.ac.uk
Organization: Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 17:01:40 BST

In article <15922@mindlink.bc.ca>, Jean_Lemire@mindlink.bc.ca (Jean Lemire) writes:
.....
- I now that local bus applications are only starting to surface on high end
- PCs but the concept intrigues me.  If it is possible, wouldn't local bus
- video be a great feature for notebooks running Windows or other GUIs ?!!
-
Note books are actually running everything on the 'local bus'. As in:

Bus        a set of signal lines on the circuit board, switched in parallel

Local Bus  a socket for a chip or circuit board sub-assembly

Open Bus   there is no subassembly in the socket

Standard local bus
            The manufacturer has actually written a specification for the
            signals in this socket, and the socket conforms to it

Industry standard local bus
            The specification for the socket has been published

Virtually all Notebook PCs are based on integrated chip sets, which suoply
in one or two chips the functionality of the IBM PC/AT address and I/O logic,
They don't claim to be "bus based" because you cannot just remove some chips
and have the rest still working - most are soldered anyway.
- 
- I believe it would:
- 
- -enhance and accelarate display performance

If the notebook is well designed it should display VGA graphics much faster
than any PC can going through the ISA bus, a 16 MHz 386sx about twice as fast
as a 33MHz 486 going through an ISA bus - assuming the graphics are actually
the bottleneck.

- -reduce battery run down
- -take up less space thus providing manufacturers ways of cutting size or
- adding other features
- -potentially reduce manufacturing costs once the process is well developed

The problem is the one-off cost in developing the stuff, chips cost little to
produce per item, probably less than $10 for a single 486, but there are the
$500m or so development cost to pay back...

- thus lowering prices

The step from being a low cost producer to being a low cost supplier is 
always the most difficult, so don't hold you breath.

- So...Let it rip!!!

Yes, but why set your sights as low as a notebook PC. Why not a notebook
Indigo, Spark (exists), RS/6000, Cray, 3090, Convex, .... 

                                     Thomas

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From: francois@femur.ai.mit.edu (Charles Francois)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: TI 3000 WinSX Question
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:36:38 GMT

Hi there,

	I bought a Texas Intruments 3000 WinSX laptop 6 months ago, and I have been
thinking about buying an internal modem for it.  Does anybody have any experience with
internal modems for this Laptop?   I am using Linux as an operating system, and in the
long run I would like to be able to run X over a phone line.

	Thanx in advance.

						- Charles -
From: v106padf@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (MICHAEL CARGIAN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Portable mice or trackballs
Date: 2 Oct 92 12:56:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


I am looking at buying a mouse for my notebook.  I've seen the 
tracman portable and the ballpoint for $100-$130 and the 
thumbelina (sp?)  for $60.  Does anyone have any comments on whether 
one is a lot better than the other?  The ballpoint looks a little
big just to throw in the computer case and carry around but the
thumbelina looks hard to use.  Thanks for your help.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu (John H. Kim)
Subject: What is this/how much is this worth?
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 02:18:32 GMT

A friend is trying to get rid of a Toshiba 1200 notebook computer for
his professor.  We know it has a 40 MB hard drive, 720k floppy drive,
640k of RAM, and DOS 3.30 in ROM.  Other than that, we're clueless.

Does anyone have any more specs on this model?  Can anybody give us
a ballpark figure on how much this is worth?  Thanks in advance.
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: vulture@carrion.cc.ic.ac.uk (Thomas Sippel - Dau)
Subject: Re: potential notebook "gotcha" -- VGA memory
Reply-To: cmaae47@cc.ic.ac.uk
Organization: Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 13:48:13 BST

In article <113.UUL1.3#1@vortex.COM>, lauren@vortex.COM (Lauren Weinstein) writes:
- Greetings.  Here's a potential "gotcha" for you when evaluating
- notebooks.  It seems that even for notebooks that promote 800x600 VGA
- output to an external monitor, many (most?) of these units have very
- limited display memory -- often only 256K.
.....
- Also, many units don't come with the software
- drivers or utility programs needed for proper VGA control.

Welcome to the land of sales lingo.

- I'd be interested in learning if such limited display memory is
- really the norm with modern notebooks.

Yes, until people stop buying discounts and feature lists, and start 
insisting on useable products before they part with money.

Caveat emptor                              Thomas
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