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From: scottw@boulder.Central.Sun.COM (Scott Wiesner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Which Mac should I buy?
Date: 12 Oct 92 07:11:43 GMT
Reply-To: scottw@boulder.Central.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: boulder.central.sun.com

After years of working in software industry, it's time for me to break down
and get a machine for home use.  Main uses will be word processing, terminal
emulation, financial management, and games.  There's no question in my mind
that the Mac is the right choice for this home "information appliance", but
the question is, which Mac?  I've read this group for a month, but haven't
seen a FAQ, so I'm hoping some kind people will take the time to answer a few
questions.

Since I won't be doing anything "high end", and I don't want to spend a fortune,
I've been thinking about the low end machines.  I've always had a fondness for the 
"classic" versions.  An all-in-one package with a sharp screen seems like a
nice possibility.  Other than the obvious, am I losing anything by not having
color?  Are there any Mac programs (including games) that require either color
or the higher resolution found on the color screens?  In the workstation world,
people would laugh at such low resolution, but from what I've seen it's quite
usable on a Mac.

Is 4MB of RAM enough for the kind of work I'll do?  Is 80 MB of disk enough to
have a usable system?  Again, on workstations, it would be a joke, but will it
leave me feeling cramped in the Mac world?

Since I'm looking at the low end of the line, I need to make a choice about 
buying a Classic II or a Performa 200, etc.  The Performa versions *seem* like
a much better deal with its bundled software and on-site service.  What are
the going prices for Classic II's, LC II's, etc., at places like Fry's?  Is
anything missing on the Performas?  Macworld mentions "DAL" not being included.
What is it?  How many different bundles are there?  I've seen mention of GreatWorks 
and ClarisWorks.  Are these "Works" packages any good?

Do all Macs (including Performas) come with Hypercard and the ability to read
and write DOS floppies?  What internet machines contain archives of PD and 
shareware software?  Is there any general concensus on additional software that's
a "must" for any Mac user?

What's the net wisdom on Mac-related magazines?  I've seen MacWorld and MacUser.
Is it a toss-up between the two?  Are the any other magazines to consider?

What have I left out?

Scott Wiesner
SunSoft
Boulder, Colorado
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: GILMART@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Paul Gilmartin)
Subject: Re: SEX SEX SEX
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 17:15:26 GMT

In article <92284.171630SXL136@psuvm.psu.edu>
<SXL136@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
 
>    Okay, now that I have your attention,
 
Kind of childish; it's courteous to keep Subjects relevant.
 
>Is there any way that, on an SE, I can view color GIFS stripped of color, in
 
try:  Gif-Converter  shareware; $40+$5 S&H (you get update and docs)
and:  GifWatcher     shareware; $15
 
Both available from standard archives; both full-featured for evaluation
prior to registration.  There are flaky betas of Gif-Converter around;
you might want to stick with a solid 2.2.10.
 
The price of each is commensurate with its features.
From: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Start Up Applications
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:51:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: outpost.D2150035.fk2cfr
Reply-To: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Organization: Peirce Software
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <1992Oct7.210239.8552@pica.army.mil> (comp.sys.mac.misc), tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi <tcora>) writes:
> gaow@bones.et.byu.edu (Jinsong Gao) writes:
> >Hi. I have a question to ask.  I put an application into startup items folder 
> >so it will be run every time I turn on the machine.  Now is there a way to 
> >not start the application without having to restart?  (that is disabling it
> >during system start).
> 
> Install Extensions Manager. Available from sumex and mac.archive.

You can also just hold down the shift key during startup.  This disables
all inits, but also disables any startup applications.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Distribution: world
From: Mark_Werner@bmug.org
Organization: BMUG, Inc.
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 21:50:40 PDT
Subject: TeachText w/Graphics

Might anyone be able to tell me how to open TeachText files with another word
processor (such as MacWrite II) and have the graphics preserved.  It seems
that when I try to open TT files with graphics, the graphics are lost if I
open with another application.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: scottb@netcom.com (L'etat des mortes)
Subject: Wanted: Mac <--> Amiga sound file converter
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 05:24:12 GMT

I'm in need of a Macintosh Application that will convert Mac and Amiga
sound files back and forth, is there such an animal?

Scott (scottb@netcom.com)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: umcho000@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Connie Cho)
Subject: Re: DublClick's ClickChange with System 7?
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:00:33 GMT

In article <20986@plains.NoDak.edu> fleckens@plains.NoDak.edu (Clint Fleckenstein) writes:
>In article <1879@sousa.ltn.dec.com> long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long) writes:
>>
>> I'm just curious how ClickChange is with the latest System. Is it able to
>> change the scroll bar and window colors/style? Any known problems? To what
>> events is it able to assign sounds?
>
>I installed it on my IIsi running 7.0.1 (from a friend's copy, to see if
>I wanted to purchase it) and found a few problems.  It didn't always re-
>draw windows correctly, and animated cursors don't work well with some
>other programs.  I think I had problems with Hellcats, but I never did
>isolate that for sure.  The window-redraw problem occurred all over. I
>junked it in favor of the shareware program 'Cursor Animator' from 
>sumex, and I outgrew that too.
>

Interesting. I've ben running Clickchange on my si running 7.0.1
for over 4 months, and only once had problems (wouldn't
open the Clickchange cp) that has not resurfaced in several months.
I love it. You can change winodw styles to emulate Windows, the NeXT, or
some rather pedestrian styles; my major complaint is that there aren't
enough styles. You can change colors of window borders, trim, highlights,
menu bar, menu items, menu text ... in fact, it is far too easy to
get enthusiastic and ruin the aesthetic appeal of your desktop. You can
assign color animated cursors in place of standard arrow, clock, I-beam,
and you can design your own, I think. The sounds are something else, too.
Quite a good selection, and you can assign practically any event:
resizing windows, every 15 mins, when you click ok, and so on. Most of
the events permit playing asynchronous sound, so you can go on to the
next thing while the sound is playing.

The latest version of Clickchange is 7 compat, while earlier ones
were not, which might account for Clint's observations.

I've found my choices settling down to a comfortable customizing of
my desktop; they've become such an integral part that I get surprised
when I use a regular desktop on another Mac.

CKC


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: kenney@hsi.com (Brian Kenney)
Subject: Bone-headed Lechmere Ad
Organization: 3M Health Information Systems, Wallingford, CT
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:51:57 GMT

Did anyone see the Columbus Day Lechmere ad?  The ad displays the
Performa 200 and 400.  I almost spilled my coffee from laughing
when I saw it.

When I took a closer look at the Performa screens, it shows a screen
that has Windows running!  To top it off, the Performa 200 (a B&W Mac)
shows the same color screen!

Nice ability...
From: dave@prc.unisys.com (David Lee Matuszek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Another stooge trying to decode files from comp.binaries.mac
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:41:55 GMT
Organization: Paoli Research Center - Paoli, PA

In article <1992Oct9.170533.23026@stortek.com> pg@sanitas.stortek.com (Paul Gilmartin) writes:
>Terry Thero (terry@col.hp.com) wrote:
>: Hi Dave,
>: 
>:    The first thing you need to do is strip all the head and tail,
>:    i.e.,
>
>:       (This file must be converted with BinHex 4.0)
>
>    [ and ]
>
>:        --
>
>
>No, NO, NO!  The "(This file must be converted with BinHex 4.0)" and "---"
>are part of the protocol; they must be left in the file.  The former
>tells the decoder that it is, in fact, a BinHex file, and where to start
>decoding.  The latter tells the decoder what are headers and footers (even
>in a multi part file.)  String the parts together; don't throw _anything_
>away; Compact Pro will figure it out.

No, these things don't need to be left in the file (but it doesn't
hurt to leave them in).  If I have to clean up a multipart file, I
usually throw them away.  Perhaps Compact Pro is fussier than
UnStuffIt, Downloader, or BinHex4?

  --dave

-- 

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impurities in our air and water that are doing it.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: ywhang@netcom.com (Yong Whang)
Subject: Info re: Insight Dev., GDT Softworks, DataPak Software needed
Organization: Netcom.com
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 03:59:59 GMT

Hi,

My colleague is looking for information to contact these companies.
Any help will be deeply appreciated.  Also any comment regarding
their product will be helpful.

Insight Development Corporation (MacPrint)

GDT Softworks (JetLink Express)

DataPak Software (Printer Interface III)

BTW, this is regarding using HP LaserJet or Canon BubbleJet
with the PowerBook.

Thanks,

Yong Whang
ywhang@netcom.com
whang@mass.dnet.hac.com


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Andreas Wuertz <wuertz@tik.ethz.ch>
Subject: Re: Mac IIsi bus error
Organization: Federal Institute of Technology
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 11:02:43 GMT

In article <1b0felINN9j8@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Louis Moreau,
ch166@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:
>I think the 's' in Mac II si stands for 'Strange' as in 
>Strangely dispearing sounds, Strangely self-rebooting, Strange
> bus errors etc.   :)

Tell us more about: your EXACT system configuration (sys7: tune-up
installed? what extensions? what hardware? how much RAM? which HD
driver?)and WHEN the errors occur. Have you ever done a virus check
recently? Have you checked your HD recently?

for your sound problem: Does it occur regularly? Does it help if turn up
the sound to full and then back again? Then it's a HW problem that you
can fix yourself.

Andy (wuertz@tik.ethz.ch)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Chinese Word Processors?
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:16:08 GMT

Well, I looked in the FAQ and in the sumex-aim and umich archives, but
I couldn't find any answers to this question.  Can anyone recommend a
good word processor (or even any word processor) that will allow me to
process Chinese text?  I'm looking for something that will run on a
System 7 Mac Classic, if that helps.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "You are just naive and repressed because
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /  penis envy is here and it's now and it's
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /  all around you." -- Neal C. Wickham
From: v109lpch@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Troy Waldmiller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Program to lock Hardrive?
Date: 11 Oct 92 12:49:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

The high school where I work has a serious problem of students putting games and
such on the hard drive.  I was wondering if there is a piece of software that
will lock the hard drive but still allow system access so you can still print
and preference files can be created and such so all software will still run. We
need something to just prevent copying to/from the hard drive.  I have
tried a shareware program that locked the hard drive but it truely locks it
and you cant print or use the chooser.

			Thank you for all your help

			Troy Waldmiller
			v109lpch@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: te@uwasa.fi (Tuomas Eerola)
Subject: Re: Greyscale on a compact mac screen..?
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 23:15:38 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.200853.2095@udel.edu> bower@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Tyson Bower) writes:
>No, you cannot make the 9in compact Mac screen create a greyscale.
>
>Why?  It is only prepared to accept 1 bit for each pixel (either on
>or off).
>
>The 12" monochrome can handle (I think) up to 8 bits per pixel.
>2^8 = 256 shades of grey.
>
SE30 can. It has built-in color quickDraw and a place for expansion card,
and there is a card on market that can do the trick. Although it has something 
for back of tube also. It has a connector for external 13" color tube and when
there is none it can shows 256 shades of gray on 9" screen.
I haven't really seen it, but I was interested before this 19" radius 
on my SE30, and I cannot remember manufacturer any more.

Tuomas
From: erh0362@tesla.njit.edu (Elliotte Rusty Harold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Autodoubler 2.0 improvements and incompatibilities
Date: 15 Oct 92 02:13:56 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology


        Has anyone seen Autodoubler 2.0 yet?  In particular does anyone 
know if this release fixes the problem with GateKeeper that forces files to 
expand to disk rather than to memory?  Does this release allow an option to 
copy files compressed?  And can you choose which files to compress or not 
compress on a file by file basis?  I need this information for possible changes 
in the next release of the FAQ which should come out this weekend for those who 
had problems with the previous release expiring before the current one reached 
their sites.  However I am a volunteer who is currently worrying both about
midterms and finding gainful employment so no promises are being made. :-)

Elliotte Rusty Harold           Department of Mathematics
elharo@m.njit.edu               New Jersey Institute of Technology
erh0362@tesla.njit.edu          Newark, NJ 07102
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:17859 comp.sys.amiga:301
From: shimkus@athena.cs.uga.edu (Doc)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: 10,000 QUESTION PURITY TEST--PLEASE READ !!!!!
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:04:24 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Oct15.151658.29311@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
>
>>>Aw, shucks.  May as well post it, whoever you are.  I can always hit 'n'.
>>> 
>>>Big Al.  Who thought purity was a chemical term...
>>
>>Could you add one more name to this growing list.
>>
>>|Paul
>>
>
>do you think you guys could add one more newsgroup to this growing list?
>i dont think this is posted in enuf groups.
>
>*hugs*
>
>
>--
>Rob Dobson              University of Virginia Music Library
>"Anything that starts with Ellington ends with an assassination attempt
>on the Fuhrer!" --SS-Sturmbannfuhrer Hans Reinhardt, July 1944

I propose the creation of a new newgroup: Alt.purity.request.  There can be 
weekly postings of all 2,347 differnt purity tests, and then the rest of the
week can be filled with the multitude of people who missed them and can't wait.

:)
From: nwc1@quads.uchicago.edu (Einstuerzende Neubauten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Greyscale on a compact mac -> Micron
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:24:00 GMT
Reply-To: nwc1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Beaver Consulting Co.

This is accomplished by the Micron Color30 card ($270) in conjunction with
the separate-but-required greyscale adapter ($50-$75). However, this will
only show greyscale on the internal monitor when there is no external
screen attached, so it is of limited use. However, if you only have limited
funds at the present moment, and your budget doesn't permit getting a
monitor now, this is a workaround.

-- 
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	5454 South Shore Drive #318, Chicago, Illinois 60615
	Beaver Consulting Co. Chicago
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: agoodrid@vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu (Stephen Klautky)
Subject: Restricting application use
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:25:00 GMT


Hi,

I have a strange request.  Do you know of any application, cp or
extension that limits the number of times another application is
run?  Or, confines the use of that application to particular times
of the day.  For example, preventing certain programs from being
run during working hours but allowing access afterwards and at
night?

Any information about this would be appreciated whether the be based
on freeware, shareware or commericial products.

-=] Steve [=-     AGOODRID@VAXA.WEEG.UIOWA.EDU
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From: werner@cs.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.announce
Subject: The answer  Re: Virus vs disk compression
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Date: 13 Oct 1992 02:16:11 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Expires: 30 days
NNTP-Posting-Host: dimebox.cs.utexas.edu

 Jim.Kauffman@f20.n3603.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Kauffman) writes:

>...an article suggesting that "While any disk compacting utility, 
>such as Disk Doubler, or Auto-Doubler, is active, your Virus protection 
>software is rendered virtually useless." I will assume by this statement 
>that they mean to include other utilities such as More Disk Space, 
>SpaceSaver, and others as well.

> Can anyone offer authoritative refutation or confirmation?

	I suspect part of the problem is either in poor presentation
	of the problem context, or poor understanding of the problem
	(or both) by the author of the Information Systems newsletter
	article...

	...on one hand, when a file is "compressed" (stuffed), it isn't
	easy for anti-virals to protect the (now data, and not executable)
	file (resource forks) from "getting modified" - if for no other
	reason than that the anti-virals don't usually try to protect
	data-files....

	on the other hand, a lot of those compacting utilities are so
	poor in design and concept as to make (some) anti-virals useless
	(because they were not designed and executed to be compatible with
	the older - and certainly more important - anti-virals).

	or as a "usually well-informed source" just commented (to me):


The best compression technique is compression at the disk driver level.
Golden Triangle has one such, and I know of at least one more company
with one just about ready.  This technique avoids many of the nasty
patching strategies currently in use by many of the compression utilities.

Most of them I've seen so far are hacks.  They use the system in
less-than-compatible ways.  Some of them use unsupported internal
system mechanisms.  These vendors should be ashamed of themselves.

The fact that they are not compatible with useful, nay, essential system
utilities (anti-virus protection) only serves to demonstrate their
disregard for the user, the very persons a vendor has an obligation to.

The cheap attempts by these vendors to characterize one category of
software as of no consequence deserve to be challenged.  If they are
unable to achieve compatibility, they must take responsibility for
their inability rather than pointing the finger of blame at other vendors.
 
	So there - authoritative enough for a Tuesday morning ?	;-)

	From day one, I have recommended against using those "on-the-fly"
	compression utilities - and I don't need to hear from anyone who
	"has used them without problems", because every user uses them
	"without problems", because when you experience one of the problems,
	you go "cold turkey" real quick !
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From: starfish@stein.u.washington.edu (Sarah Skovronsky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: .voc to .snd ??
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:15:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct7.191526.14031
Organization: University of Washington

wildcard@nevada.edu ( WildCard !!) writes:



>Is there any software that allows one to convert Soundblaster (IBM?) sounds
>to SoundMaster (mac) sounds?

The program SoundExtractor will do it.  Do you have FTP access?  If you do,
you can get the file from sumex-aim.stanford.edu or wuarchive.wustl.edu.

Send me e-mail if you're confused.

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From: pilgrim@daimi.aau.dk (Jakob G}rdsted)
Subject: Re: Amiga advice for Mac user please...
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 13:43:43 GMT

bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:

>        Yes way if you get a particular PD program, see below.

He can use MSH too(also on fish disks), does more or
less the same thing. I use MSH myself; I don't know
if PCpatch is better, but MSH is OK for my needs.

Hi.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: bwbecker@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: Managing a student Mac lab
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:00:19 GMT

We are opening up a Mac lab to less supervised student use and 
are faced with a few problems.  Tips/pointers appreciated!

1. The students need to sign up for the machines to ensure that
   everyone can have at least a reasonable amount of access to
   a finite resource (the Macs).  Are there any programs available 
   to help with this?  Needs to monitor for people signing up for
   excessive amounts of time.

2. We need to protect local hard disks (system folders, application
   software, etc) from malicious users.  We've installed Folderbolt,
   but the overall stability of the system has decreased substantially
   since then.  Are there alternatives?

Thanks in advance.  E-mail replies will be summarized to the net.

Byron Weber Becker
University of Waterloo
Waterloo, Ont.  Canada
bwbecker@dragon.waterloo.ca

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