Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Education Regarding Alternative Family Units (Re: The Analogy Betwixt Gays & Blacks (Re: Children in Samegender Families))
From: psg+@pitt.edu (Paul S Galvanek)
Date: 4 Jan 93 18:05:04 GMT
Followup-To: alt.politics.clinton
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <2JAN199317590901@zeus.tamu.edu> rlc1028@zeus.tamu.edu (Gadson Sandor) writes:
>|If tolerance is really the goal, and I don't believe it is for a moment,
>
>	What is the goal then?  Do you think the homos are trying to
>turn school kids Gay?  


What I think is that many groups mistakenly believe that if they get to 
kids young enough and expose them to enough of the ideas the idea their 
reject, then they can eventually lay the ground work for the next generation
of young adults, ones that will embrace their goals and ideas whole heartedly.

In some cases it might work, usually where the prejudice they'll encounter
other places is clearly seen by them to be based on false ideas.   Why
it won't work here is that as I said before, homosexuals are identified 
by their behavior.  That behavior is eventually learned by the kids and
many will simply reject it as unacceptable regardless of what they're taught,
just as some kids will reject or accept other types of behavior.

Another area gays make a mistake with these programs is that they assume that
any significant percentage of students actual hold and regard for what their
public school teachers have to say about anything.  How many kids will go 
through the Children of the Rainbow in New York, pass the requirements by 
simply repeating the answers they know are expected of them but leave school
knowing that the teachers and school board are regarded as the enemy of their
parents.  I'll bet more of them leave school looking for the chance to get
even than those who warmly accept the precepts of these programs.  Kids are
not dumb they see the conflict, they know who to trust and even though 
parents may never openly advocate gay bashing, they'll certainly remember 
in the years yet to come.

And thirdly and probably the biggest mistake they make is, they don't know when
to quit.  It's foolish to assume that kids aren't seeing enough of the homo-
sexual ideals and more needs to be taught in school.  From what I see and hear
of my own children's experiences, I think they're over saturated with gay 
rights matters already and as a result many are rejecting what schools 
teachers have to say on the matter without giving so much as a thought or
even listening.  It's in their music, on their television shows, in comic 
books everywhere they look and they're getting fed up.  I can tell you of my
son's last birthday when he had 7 of his friends from school sleep over when I
had a most interesting conversation with a group of 10 to 12 year olds. 

When I asked why they weren't watching MTV I was told by the group that none
of them watch that crappy station because it's nothing but fags.  I was given
a brief run down of the episodes of some show (which I've not seen yet) called
The Real World where gay men often tell of their dating habits which just
made them "sick".  The all had a video to tell of that had graphic homosexual
scenes which prompted most to stop lsitening to a particular "artist."  And I
learned for the first time that these pretty simple kids had already mastered
the art of the boycott when they listed several tv shows, Beverly Hills 90210
Life goes on an Rosanne that had introduced gay characters and were promptly
dismissed as not worthy of being watched anymore by these and most other kids
at school.  But without a doubt, he most interesting of the stories was from
a young boy from India that I know for a fact is being raised in an extremely 
liberal home, and happens to be my son's closest friend.

He and my son both collect comic books and he told me of how, 
when the main character in his Alpha Flight comics series "came out"
he, with out any prompting and without his parents knowledge, threw
away a rather extensive and expensive collection.  A collection I happen to
know he devoted a great of time and resources to putting together.

I think, that the people that are pushing these school programs have
no idea what they're really doing and what they may ultimately accomplish. 
Trust me, I've got nothing to lose or gain from this debate, nothing!  But
I will tell you that I have seen were gay bashing starts, and it's got nothing
to do with anything the these kid's parents are doing or not doing and nothing
the schools are considering is going help matters.

PSG


-- 
America must've gone through quite a change the last month and a half.  Since
Clinton promised a cabinet that "would look more like America," it must be that
we've all become far left academicians or career politicians.  The ivory tower
is rebuilt, communism lives and its advocates are working for Bill Clinton! 
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