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From: bharat@shadow.Eng.Sun.COM (Bharat Mediratta)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
Subject: Re: specific rules input sought
Date: 20 Nov 1992 22:06:28 GMT
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In article 76p@news.udel.edu, todd@chester.cms.udel.edu (Todd Sanders) writes:
> 	Once the disc has been received by an offensive player (as a completion
> is defined by the rules), in bounds and with ground contact established, the
> play is dead and a goal is scored.  What happens after this moment is inmaterial. 

So what you're saying is that if a player catches it in the endzone, and
then throws a turnover, it's STILL a point?  Why does nobody play this way,
then?

	-Bharat

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
From: richarje@inga1.acc.stolaf.edu (Joe E Richardson Iii)
Subject: A Rules Question that the UPA has yet to answer
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:46:16 GMT

Well, here's my scenario:
	The score is tied 10 all, with our last point being played due to IM
time cap restrictions at St. Olaf College.  My team pulls, and the receiving 
team begins their offense, until they throw a pass which I unintentionally tip
up and then catch IN the end zone.  Is my catch a score, or must I take the 
disc out and throw it in?  In the rules it's kind of vague, so help me, please!

Secondly, does anyone know of any winter tourneys in MN?  I'm especially inter-
ested in playing indoors.  Thanks in advance.
From: pcwood@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Paul Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
Subject: DGolf Course Guide
Keywords: disc golf
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:56:56 GMT
Organization: Temple University
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A while back spoke to a fellow dgolfer about a book of courses and their 
locations across the country.  I havent run into him again and I am wondering
if anyone out there knows of such a book including its title, author, number 
etc.  Thanks muchly.
--

                       -=( Paul Wood )=-
              -=( pcwood@astro.ocis.temple.edu )=-
From: chrisf@jna.com.au (Chris Ford)
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Subject: Bounced mail

Whenever I post to the mailing list, I get this bounced back to me.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
From: ferguson@cs.rochester.edu (George Ferguson)
Subject: Re: specific rules input sought
Reply-To: ferguson@cs.rochester.edu (George Ferguson)
Organization: University of Rochester.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:55:47 GMT


In article <daemon.92Nov19030321@is.morgan.com> Frank Revi <71551.2461@CompuServe.COM> writes:
>A player catches the disc while toeing the line, establishing both
>possession and ground contact, then drops the disc as s/he continues to
>fall. [...]
>But in the end zone, it's either a turn or a goal.
>
>which should it be? 

Possession + ground contact in endzone == score, no? I think the
battle would be over whether the receiver actually had possession if
he/she dropped it so soon.

What about the same scenario on an out-of-bounds: receiver touches in
bounds with the disc then drops it as they fall OB. Is it a turnover
to drop the disc when it's OB? Technically, I suppose that you could
say that if the receiver had not touched OB yet, then the disc was
still IB, and so live, and so it's a turn. But if they touched OB
before dropping it, then it was dead and no turn. Whew! I can just see
"discussing" that one during a game...

George
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
From: Rosse_Lapper@mindlink.bc.ca (Rosse Lapper)
Subject: Re:disc on the moon
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:23:39 GMT

Just noticed you work for NASA. Could you find out if its true that a frisbie
made it to the moon on an apollo mission? model and colour would be nice to
know as well. I can't seem to get any conf1Z<oirmation///x
--
frisbie@mindlink.bc.ca
(604)222-4180
wiser thru hyzer
From: thomas.taylor@aquila.com (Thomas Taylor) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
Subject: A Rules Question that the
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:20:00 GMT
Distribution: netcomsv
Organization: Aquila BBS - Aurora, IL - 820-8344
Reply-To: thomas.taylor@aquila.com (Thomas Taylor) 


 >         The score is tied 10 all, with our last point being played due
 > to IM time cap restrictions at St. Olaf College.  My team pulls, and the
 > receiving team begins their offense, until they throw a pass which I
 > unintentionally tip up and then catch IN the end zone.  Is my catch a
 > score, or must I take the disc out and throw it in?  In the rules it's
 > kind of vague, so help me, please!

The rules are actually crystal clear on this point.

X.3. (Endzones)

If a team gains possession in the endzone which it is attacking, the player
taking possession must carry the disc directly to the closest point on the
goal line and put the disc into play from there.

XI.1.

A goal is scored when an offensive player completes a pass to a teammate in
the endzone which his/her team is attacking.

Conclusion: No goal for you, at least not until you take it to the goalline
and pass it to a teammate in the endzone.

-tt
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From: sd007b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Sunil Dixit)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
Subject: Re: Women's games to 19
Date: 24 Nov 92 03:29:24 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Nov20.215027.16237@mprgate.mpr.ca> haman@mpr.ca (Anja Haman
>>Article: 3012 of rec.sport.disc

Responding to why women generally play games to 19 or less rather than 21,
I've noticed that in women's games there are very few hucks.  These hucks
(in men's games), though tactically moronic, are great opportunities for
breathers.  Women don't seem to have as many of these.  Women also cut
shorter, and closer to the handler.  Rarely have I seen a women's second cut
do a sweeping real estate cut to the sideline.  This means more cuts for
each player in the game, and fatigue that builds more quickly.  To make a
comparison, check out women's tennis.  They only play three sets, but every
rally takes a month.



Shneel, keeper of the Plastic
U of Rochester Piggies with Attitude

	
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
From: rjg@doe.carleton.ca (Richard Griffith)
Subject: Re: Another question....
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:08:52 GMT

In <1992Nov20.034608.2130@infonode.ingr.com> krajnatg@infonode.ingr.com (Tom G. Krajna) writes:
>rjg@doe.carleton.ca (Richard Griffith) writes:
>>By taking up a marking position and extending my arms I claim the space 
>>above and below my arms as mine. If contact occurs in this area the
>>thrower is at fault.

>So if the thrower intersects this "plane" with her arm while throwing,
>*anything* is fair game?  The marker can hack down on the thrower's arm
>and it is a foul on the thrower?  What if the thrower just reaches into
>this plane without throwing?

>>The marker should not be required to dodge the follow through arm of the
>>thrower. The thrower is required, by the hazardous play rule, not to move
>>into space occupied by the marker.

>Agreed.  But seldom does the marker scurry for cover as a long throw is
>unleashed.  Rather, the typical "problem" situation goes something like
>this (for a backhand, anyway):

>    The thrower reaches back to make a long throw.  The marker sees
>    this and starts shifting sideways.  The thrower commits to the
>    throw.  The marker reacts by quickly sliding further over, at the
>    same time swinging downward with her arm.  Contact occurs before,
>    during, or after the moment of release, and does or does not affect
>    the flight of the disc.  The two players have a nice chat, often
>    focusing on whether the marker was still moving when contact occurred.

>I remember hearing that one tournament tried disallowing the defense from
>calling follow-through fouls.  Many would argue, however, that defense
>today has a tough enough time as it is.  What to do?  Get open enough so
>that when you throw long, there's no one marking you... :-)

Yes! That is the point.

The marker is supposed to be able to 
prevent the thrower from making certain throws. An attempted long
throw that results in contact like the above was a bad attempt. The marker had
it covered and should be able to call the foul. Hucks are easy to read and
easy to get infront of. The question should not be who was there first. The
question should be why was thrower making the throw if the defense had it
covered.

The thrower should make a throw that does not require moving into the markers
space.  Learn to make your throws without the follow through. Respect the 
marker, you know what they will try do. 

If the defence had more respect maybe it would have an easier time.
From: haman@mpr.ca (Anja Haman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
Subject: flights to Hawaii
Date: 21 Nov 92 02:12:26 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B.C., Canada


There seem to be quite a few women in Vancouver who would like to go to
the Hawaii tournament(s) in February (esp the 13/14th weekend).
Unfortunately, it's the airfare that's stopping us. The $209 return
posted a week ago was perfect, but is already booked. If ANYONE out there hears
of cheap tickets leaving from Seattle or Vancouver or anywhere close
to either city, please PLEASE PLEASE post it or send email to:

haman@mprgate.mpr.ca
(anja haman)
From: IEGS@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA (IEGS)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: university of Western AUSTRALIA
Date: 15 Nov 92 23:11:18 GMT
Organization: McGill University

does someone knows the email address of Prof. Bradley Smith
university of Western Austrailia
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
From: edb238acot@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au
Subject: Re: THE 'SUPPOSED' CHEATING ON THE DRAFT...
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:44:14 GMT

In article <hojking.41.721987173@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au>, hojking@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (JASON KING) writes:
> WELL TO ALL THOSE OUT THERE THAT THINK COLLINGWOOD HAS CHEATED THE DRAFT, 
> WELL JUST THINK ABOUT THE WHOLE SITUATION HERE.
> 
> ALL THE other REAL CLUBS WERE TOO GUTLESS TO EVEN ATTEMPT TO DRAFT THE 
> LEGENDARY RUCKMAN FROM PORT ADELAIDE.......
> 
> SO TO ALL THOSE FUCKS WHO KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT NOTHING 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> UP THE MIGHTY PIES..........


  If the average intelligence of the average(very)
  collingwood supporter then i feel sorry for the half normal ones
  and the club itself.


  On the chalmers subject why draft a player when he wont come
  and your actions could bring down the whole draft system.

  P.S. I hope collingwood doesntthink  it showed the smarts
  in drafting him. It was richmond who showed the inspired
  choice by drafting him at 103 in 89 when he was an unknown
  and every other club knew jack shit about him.

  Its not our fault he is a wuss who cant stand playing for a lower club.

  Mark

  edb238acot@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au
  "Ben Careless Lives"
From: phil@trl.oz.au (Phillip Bouchier)
Subject: Don't Blame The Magpies
Keywords: Money
Reply-To: phil@trl.oz.au
Organization: Telecom Research Labs.
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:01:42 GMT


Football means money you ask the AFL; Collingwood is a critic of the AFL.
I hate the free market but thats how any system goes when you bring money into it.
Like any competitive situation you use what you have got. I must say the great
working class football club "The Magpies" have got it all.

So tough,
                         Love us,
                         or Hate us,
                         thats OK;
                         don't feel
                         indifference to us.

P. Bouchier
From: mathers@sibelius.trl.oz.au (Steven Mathers)
Subject: Re: Stuart Wigney
Reply-To: s.mathers@trl.oz.au
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 01:58:40 GMT

In article <1ep5c8INN33l@huon.itd.adelaide.edu.au>, rscholef@iti.org (THESAURUS) writes:
|> As an Adelaide Crows supporter, I would be interested in hearing a few
|> knowledgable opinions of Adelaide recruit Stuart Wigney. Apparently he had a
|> very good year in 1990 with Footscray but was transferred to Sydney last year
|> where suffered some bad injuries. However, some more infomation would be nice,
|> thank you.
|> 

He was a mediocre player for the Dogs.  One of those types that does a
few nice things every now and then, and then goes missing for the rest
of the game.
From: marino@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Adresses
Date: 17 Nov 92 13:20:39 +1100
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

Address of AFL teams
--------------------

 Here are the addresses of all the AFL teams. If you are outside Australia,
please change the code (0xx) before the phone number to 61xx. The AFL head
office has recently moved. I will give you their address as soon as I can.

 ADELAIDE:
     Bill Sanders,
     PO BOX 1,
     West Lakes, SA, 5021.
     Tel: (08) 347 2322
     Fax: (08) 347 3237

 BRISBANE:
     Andrew Ireland,
     PO BOX 7070,
     Gold Coast Mail Centre, QLD, 4217.
     Tel: (075) 94 4542
     Fax: (075) 96 3634

 CARLTON:
     Ian Collins,
     PO BOX 83,
     North Carlton, VIC, 3054.
     Tel: (03) 387 1400
     Fax: (03) 387 7805

 COLLINGWOOD:
     Rob Petrie,
     PO BOX 165,
     Abbotsford, VIC, 3067.
     Tel: (03) 419 9222
     Fax: (03) 419 3302

 ESSENDON:
     Roger Hampson,
     PO BOX 17,
     Essendon, VIC, 3040.
     Tel: (03) 375 3211
     Fax: (03) 370 6804

 FITZROY:
     Don Wallace,
     PO BOX 310,
     East Brunswick, VIC, 3057.
     Tel: (03) 387 8211
     Fax: (03) 387 0616

 FOOTSCRAY:
     Graham Pearce,
     PO BOX 112,
     West Footscray, VIC, 3012.
     Tel: (03) 689 3100
     Fax: (03) 689 8094

 GEELONG:
     Greg Durham,
     PO BOX 461,
     Geelong, VIC, 3220.
     Tel: (052) 21 3355
     Fax: (052) 21 8462

 HAWTHORN:
     John Lauritz,
     PO BOX 52,
     Hawthorn, VIC, 3122.
     Tel: (03) 819 2199
     Fax: (03) 819 5697

 MELBOURNE:
     Tony King,
     PO BOX 254,
     East Melbourne, VIC, 3002.
     Tel: (03) 650 9052
     Fax: (03) 654 6039

 NORTH MELBOURNE:
     Ken Montgomery,
     PO BOX 158,
     North Melbourne, VIC, 3051.
     Tel: (03) 326 8666
     Fax: (03) 329 7114

 RICHMOND:
     Cameron Schwab,
     PO BOX 48,
     Richmond, VIC, 3121.
     Tel: (03) 429 5333
     Fax: (03) 429 4686

 ST. KILDA:
     Rick Watt,
     PO BOX 34,
     Moorabbin, VIC, 3189.
     Tel: (03) 555 6688
     Fax: (03) 553 2553

 SYDNEY:
     Barry Rogers,
     PO BOX 173,
     Paddington, NSW, 2021.
     Tel: (02) 332 3888
     Fax: (02) 360 2391

 WEST COAST:
     Brian Cook,
     PO BOX 508,
     Subiaco, WA, 6008.
     Tel: (09) 381 1111
     Fax: (09) 388 2541


 Thanks to Kevin Howard here at Monash for helping me to enter these in. Enjoy.

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From: jodi@arbo.microbiol.uwa.oz.au (Jodi Lindsay)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Where draft picks are from
Date: 17 Nov 1992 05:20:28 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: cns.microbiol.uwa.edu.au

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't 40-odd draft picks come from SA, 40-odd 
from Vic and 30-odd from WA?

Considering the size of Victoria, and the support it has for football, why 
weren't more young players chosen from Victoria?
From: T9214508@phillip.edu.au (DAME)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: New Fantasy League
Date: 19 Nov 1992 21:29:58 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


	I am thinking of starting a new Australian Rules fantasy football
	league next season. It is different from the SPARF league in
	that it uses AFL players stats from the weekends games. I have 
	written a first draft of rules, if you are interested just drop
	me a line. 

--
  Damian Martin
  T9214508@pitvax.phillip.edu.au
  * signature off-line for update
From: rscholef@iti.org (THESAURUS)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Re: Stuart Wigney
Date: 22 Nov 1992 23:33:28 GMT
Organization: The University of Adelaide
NNTP-Posting-Host: adelphi.itd.adelaide.edu.au

As an Adelaide Crows supporter, I would be interested in hearing a few
knowledgable opinions of Adelaide recruit Stuart Wigney. Apparently he had a
very good year in 1990 with Footscray but was transferred to Sydney last year
where suffered some bad injuries. However, some more infomation would be nice,
thank you.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
From: dyko@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Darren Yiu Ming KO)
Subject: best & fairest
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 10:53:16 GMT



Does anybody know the following?

Who are the top three vote getters in the 1992 Hawthorn Football Club
Best & Fairest count?

Who are the top three vote getters in the 1992 West Coast Eagles Football Club
Best & Fairest count?

Thankyou very much! (copyright Rex Hunt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
From: phil@medici.trl.OZ.AU (Phil Nicholson)
Subject: Re: Don't Blame The Magpies
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 00:09:15 GMT

From article <1992Nov15.230142.17981@trl.oz.au>, by phil@trl.oz.au (Phillip Bouchier):
[Rubbish deleted]
> P. Bouchier

Please don't send hate mail to this person via his reply address! It will
probably get to me instead. Address all criticisms of the Magpies to
p.bouchier@trl.oz.au

I the meantime, I have an appoint to go and abuse his system administrator.
Phillip Nicholson			Internet: p.nicholson@trl.OZ.AU
Telecom Australia Research Labs		AI Systems  
Phone: +61 3 253 6245			Fax: +61 3 253 6173 
x400: g=phil s=nicholson ou=trl o=telecom prmd=telecom006 admd=telememo c=au
From: IEGS@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA (IEGS)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: university of Western AUSTRALIA
Date: 15 Nov 92 23:13:34 GMT
Organization: McGill University

does someone know the email address of Prof. Bradley Smith university
of Western Australia. Please reply to BERTY. THANKS
From: msf@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Michael Fuller)
Subject: Re: THE 'SUPPOSED' CHEATING ON THE DRAFT...
Keywords: THE PIES
Reply-To: msf@citri.edu.au
Organization: CITRI
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 11:09:58 GMT

hojking@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (JASON KING) writes:
>UP THE MIGHTY PIES..........

Yes. I couldn't agree more. Right up the pies.
From: kahdieh@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Kyan Ahdieh)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Are you bored?
Date: 20 Nov 1992 06:47:14 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au
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From: mdipietr@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Michael Umberto Di Pietro)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Re: Collingwood Are a Pack of Idiots.
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:59:40 GMT
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston



you talk about being cheats and beating the draft system........well, look

around pal, all the other clubs have cheated in the recent drafts....at

one time or another.....by offering weaker clubs some players......in exchange

of the weaker club's first choice draft......that's "cheating" as well.......


so don't you come out and say utter garbage........!!!!!!! :)



there's my two cents worth..........



The BLACK & WHITE ARMY LIVES FOREVER !!!!!!!!! :)	




		Mike
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
From: hojking@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (JASON KING)
Subject: THE 'SUPPOSED' CHEATING ON THE DRAFT...
Summary: FUCK YOU ALL.
Keywords: THE PIES
Organization: Halls of Residence, Monash University 
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 07:59:33 GMT

WELL TO ALL THOSE OUT THERE THAT THINK COLLINGWOOD HAS CHEATED THE DRAFT, 
WELL JUST THINK ABOUT THE WHOLE SITUATION HERE.

ALL THE other REAL CLUBS WERE TOO GUTLESS TO EVEN ATTEMPT TO DRAFT THE 
LEGENDARY RUCKMAN FROM PORT ADELAIDE.......

SO TO ALL THOSE FUCKS WHO KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT NOTHING 



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