HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: divaka@jacob.its.rpi.edu (Ajay Divakaran)
Subject: Re: RSS, BABRI MASJID AND THE NAZIS
Reply-To: divaka@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:13:29 GMT

In article <C15or1.92y@cs.psu.edu>, narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayana) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan20.070536.15438@fuug.fi> an5953@anon.penet.fi writes:
|> >
|> >  The fallowing is excerpted from a recent post from Pramathanatha Sastry.
|> >  Seems to make a lot of sense.
|> >
|> >  Folks, wake up and face up to this RSS/VHP/BJP/BajrangDal/ShivSena monster.
|> >  Once they are done with the muslims they will not be content. They will
|> >  come for each one of us. What happened in Germany in the 1930s is being
|> >  reenacted in India now. The nazis killed all the "impure" elements in their
|> >  society. But our monsters will kill a lot and reinstall their beloved
|> >  caste system again. This is a critical moment in the history of India.
|> >  The glorious future of India will be burnt to ashes before your own eyes
|> >  in the next few years if you dont wake up and do something.
|> >
|> >
|> >  Agnivesh.
|> >
|> This guy pramanath sastry, Sanjeev Mahajan, Chukka Srinivas, Bhudiraju
|> belong to the same category of people. Remember the great peoples war group
|> terrorist trench follower Sanjeev Mahajan, and how he felt drinking bottles
|> of shame manufactured in Columbus Ohio.
|> 
|> ...kt
Anyone who has read postings from the individuals listed above would
know how ridiculous the above categorization is. I have to admit that
I detested Sanjeev Mahajan's brand of cacophonous anti-Hindu pontification. But
I have not seen any anti-Hindu stuff from Pramath or Chukka or Budaraju,
unless of course refusing to abuse non-Hindus makes you anti-Hindu.
I guess I have just added myself to the above list. I think the only
criterion for inclusion in Kuram T. Narayana garu's list of bete noires
is disagreement with his unique perspective on life, love and religion.
                                                     ajay
From: pr2c+@andrew.cmu.edu (Prashant S. Rane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: RE: misleading Indian Express ad
Date: 24 Jan 93 18:36:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.MfMqtU600XsDEdAJMH
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


>From: rroy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Raja R Roy)
>Subject: Re: (misleading) Indian Express Advertisement re: RJB
>Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:02:00 GMT
>
>
>
>In article <1jkoqdINNqii@pollux.usc.edu> brao@pollux.usc.edu (Bapa Rao) writes:>>
>>However, the idea of supporting any organization that harbors persons
>>like Mr. Shah fills me with profound revulsion.
>
>    Why, what is so repulsive about Mr. Shah.
>>
>>K.V. Bapa Rao
>>
>>I have since been informed that Mr. Shah obtained Dr. Sastry's message
>>from the India Alert mailing list. While I don't believe that a message
>>posted to a mailing list automatically becomes public, there would seem
>>to be at least some question about the privacy of messages to a list such
>>as India Alert which I understand is fairly large.
>>
>>In the light of this, I am withdrawing my quoted comments about Mr. Shah.
>>For the record, I still consider the manner of Mr. Shah's use of Dr.
>>Sastry's message to be quite ugly, falling into the McCarthyist
>>red-baiting class.
>
>    Why. What is so ugly about it. Earlier, I had somewhat favorable opinion
> about Pramath. Not now, after his commie connections are exposed. Well done
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Mr. Shah.  Now, I really wonder whether these pseudo seculars are really
> marxists in disguise who will sell their soul and country without compunction.>
> Raja
>>

Jeez, do we jump to conclusions or what?

The evidence so far:

Pramath seems to be a very thoughtful and rational person who has posted very
interesting articles on SCI in the past. He has never indulged in ad hominem
attacks on anybody. He is very articulate. I may or may not agree with his
views, but in general, he is a kind of person I would like to have as a friend.

Then we see: Pramath has *one* friend who is a marxist.

THE JUMP:

*HIS MARXIST CONNECTIONS HAVE BEEN EXPOSED!* He is Psecular! He probably
is marxist in disguise! He will sell his own soul and country without
compunctions!!!!!!!!

Raja, you've got problems.

Prashant
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: g7tn@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Mehendale Shashank)
Subject: For University of Texas, Arligton students only
Organization: University of New Brunswick, Fredericton, NB, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:01:46 GMT


I am looking for Rahul Dabake. He was to join the UTA this term.

If any of you know him, please send me his E-mail address.

Thank you.

Shashank

g7tn@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: godura@ori.cis.udel.edu (Ruchir Godura)
Subject: Re: shiv sena/Bombay riots
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:17:12 GMT

In article <C12H06.pqD@austin.ibm.com> vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com writes:
>
>Just got here from Bombay.  If it had not been for Shiv-Sena Bombay would be
>burning...

???????????
Care to elucidate ?
Ruchir.


-- 
Ruchir Godura | godura@cis.udel.edu | (302) 731-4123 (H) (302) 831-1949 (W)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: barakam@infonode.ingr.com (Sreedhar Barakam)
Subject: A J1-Visa Question
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:08:02 GMT

I have a friend who plans on coming here on a J1-Visa. If, after he comes
here and gets sponsered for a Green card by marriage what would be, if
any, complications?  Does he have to go out of USA for 2 years still, or
not?  Thanks for any information.

Sreedhar.
barakam@infonode.ingr.com
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:45320 soc.culture.pakistan:19830
From: hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Need for an Islamic State (Was:  What is and isn't Hindutva )
Date: 24 Jan 1993 21:50:47 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: pageboy.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1993Jan24.202049@IASTATE.EDU> jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan) writes:
>
>" " Concept of Islamic State
>" "
>" " "An Islamic state is essentially an ideological state, and is 
>" " thus radically different from a national state."
>" " This statement  lays the foundation for the political,
>" " economic, social and religious system of Islamic countries. This
>" " system intentionally discriminates between people according to their
>" " religious afflliations. 


1: The concept of the "national" state (geographical state) on the other
  hand discriminates on the basis of where you happen to be born. just
  because a person happens to be born in areas that comprise USA, makes 
  his life more precious than the lives of hundreds and thousands of 
  people born elsewhere. They can go to hell if US national security
  interest says so (eg. Bosnia)

	[Aside: By the way, concept of a geographical national 
	state is already destined for the dustbin of history!
  	Read Alvin Toffler's "The Power Shift", 1990. Remember his
 	"Future Shock" written in 1970, that predicted much of the 
  	revolution of todays computers and the consequent integration!)

2: Note that in the case of an ideological state, if you are not happen
  to be born in the area where it exists, and you are aspirant of
  the fruits therein, then you have the "option" to accept that
  ideology and become its memeber. (Eg. open migration of all people
  who accepted Islam and came to reap the fruits of thriving Muslim
  empires).

3: If some country is suffering because a Milosovic is subjugating the people,
  then an ideological state is compeled to help the sufferers irrespective
  of whether self interest (oil etc) happens to be there or not. Eg. Bosnia.
  Even though, no Islamic state exists, but Muslims from other countries
  are already there fighting on behalf of the oppressed, and freely giving
  their lives. In time when
  an Islamic state is there, it will not only come to help for the oppressed
  Muslims, but will also come to  help for the non-Muslims who cry for 
  help from  tyrants like Milosovic or a Hitler who are  harrassing the people.
From: farid@dso011.sch.ge.com (Farid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: SHER
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:34:03 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: GE Power Generation

In article <C16xI6.HCz@news.udel.edu> akash@brahms.udel.edu (Akash Sharma) writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.233241.10708@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> msrinath@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Mirajkar Srinath) writes:
>>
>>        WOAH AAYA HAMARI KABRA PER, DEYA BUJHA KE CHAL DIYA
>>
>>        DEYA ME JO TEEL THA, SEER PE LAKA KE CHAL DIYA !!
>>
>>  Best Wishes
>>  -- Srinath
>	Very poetic!!  Kind of like:
>	DOOR SE DEKHA, LADKI BAAL SUKHAA RAHI THI
>	PAAS JAA KAR DEKHA, GAI POONCHH HILA RAHI THI!
>Akash.
>akash@ravel.udel.edu
>
>
>
 	one more ....

		bakri pahaD par chaD gai
		aur dusri taraf se niche utar gai ...


			keep adding gyus ..
From: seshadri@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Raghu Seshadri)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:30:51 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: India Today Editorial : Ayodhya- Nation's shame
Organization: HP Information Networks, Cupertino, CA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian


-India was divided because it alienated its minority population by
-scaring them  about protection of their very basic rights. 

	This, of course, is monumentally false. Indians, majority or
	otherwise, were not in control of their own fate when
	the nation was divided. How could the blame for it be
	placed on them ?

	The premier Indian organization fighting for freedom was
	engaged in it on behalf of all Indians. Gandhi and Nehru
	were in charge; they were exceptionally liberal men who
	thoroughly loathed the primitive tribalism that breeds
	hatred and communalism. It horrified them that the Muslim
	League would claim that the Muslims are different from the
	other Indians. Inspite of the mean spirited criminal
	campaign of Mr Jinnah which brought about his self fulfilling
	prophecy, Gandhi and Nehru never wavered from their
	humanitarian ideals that India is for everyone. You obviously
	need to read up some history.

	Apart from Mr Jinnah's fertile mind, can you cite another 
	fact on the ground, either an anti-Muslim campaign or
	a threatening speech by a Congress leader to substantiate this
	ridiculous assertion ? It is not anyone's fault that a segment
	of the population is consumed by the paranoia-mongering of
	a few evil men.

The
-current riots is ONLY GOING to re-inforce those fears and possibly lead
-to second division again. 

	Now for the first time since the retaliatory strikes of 1947,
	the Hindus have behaved in an ugly manner, providing grounds
	for a justifiable fear among the Muslims in Bombay and 
	Ahmedabad. This is shameful. If India does not conform to the
	secular ideals of her founding fathers, the situation is
	dire indeed.

	( Other good stuff by Sanjay deleted - I agree with all of it )

	Raghu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: rangana@cs.uwindsor.ca (RANGANATHAN A            )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: fabricated posts ("sneaky posts" a la Vijay Fafat)
Summary: Cowpyright
Date: 21 Jan 1993 19:41:48 GMT

In article <1jle10INNkhg@aludra.usc.edu>, fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat) writes:
> SSD writes:
> >Feminazis *always* take things far too seriously. FFT's point is totally
> >valid. Why the hell should the Matrons care what people of the Society
> 								^^^^^^^
> >of Certified Idiots say about them? After all, SAWNET was formed with
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> 
> 	Ahem... Cowpyright violation, I see :) 

Hmmmmmm, I can see that. 
SSD you are hereby sentenced to produce 20, well make it 25, inane
articles within the next 24 hours. Since FFT has taken a shine to 
ya, I guess you would be done in about 15 mins. ;-) 

you can contact FFT at : fafat@aludra.usc.edu for counselling. ;-) ;-)


All the best, 


Arathi.  





-- 
See simplicity in the complicated
	- Lao Tzu
From: partha@paul.rutgers.edu (partha)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: limerick, bengali
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:42:58 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

FFT wrote:

>          Aamar bhalo shoner rasgulla :)

For all its worth, I would rather have normal rosogollas (a lot of
them, (slurp)), rather than 'sonar' (made up of gold, if that is what
u meant FFT) rosogollas... 

(and then probably go to the gym to shed some calories...;)

:)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: pinto@enuxva.eas.asu.edu (Kevin A. Pinto)
Subject: Re: BJP
Summary: Stereotypes
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:29:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.113041.46593@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> 
>   Javed, don't be so paranoid. BJP has its own agenda - that you might hate to
>   associate with. But, that does not imply that BJP will revise and do what
>   the JKLF forces want to say. In fact BJP has the correct attitude in dealing
>   with the JKLF terrorists (or are they to be reckoned as heroes ?) - that is
>   supported by Pakistan.
> 
>     - regards,
> 
>      deb chatterjee
>    (a good samaritan)   

	It's interesting to note that as far as Deb Chatterjee is concerned,
all Muslims are JKLF sympathisers.

	Give us a break, Deb!  You picked on the wrong guy - I don't think
anyone out here can ever recall Javed lionising the JKLF.  Unless comments
about government atrocities in Kashmir are automatically considered
pro-terrorist.  And given that anyone who does not agree with your particular
views is labelled something or the other.......

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From: mghayalo@uceng.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Krishnamurthy
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:25:38 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati

Does anyone know what is happening with the Krisnamurthy case?
I have heard that he has decided to cooperate with the CBI and
many important people are being arrested, is that true?

Manoj
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh
From: darshan@dhara.informix.com (Darshan Joshi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: anyone got multiple h-1 from tijuana ??
Date: 26 Jan 93 00:39:39 GMT
Reply-To: darshan@dhara.informix.com (Darshan Joshi)
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

Hi,

did anyone get multiple h-1 from tijuana ?
i have couple of questions.

- do i need to take appointment before going there ?

- how are the chances of getting it ?
  ( compared to El paso)

i would appreciate if you can reply directly to 
my email address, as i don't follow newsgroup
regularly.

email : darshan@informix.com

Thanx in advance
darshan 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: byab314@chpc.utexas.edu (Srinivas Bettadpur)
Subject: Re: Indian Musical Instruments
Summary: Too many srinivas's around, aren't there ???
Keywords: Musical Instruments & Handicrafs
Organization: Center for Space Research, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: soc.culture.indian
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 21:11:12 GMT

In article <gopu.727587332@oak.cs.scarolina.edu> gopu@cs.scarolina.edu (Kishore K. Gopu) writes:
>       I am posting this for one of friends who called from India to
>find out whether there are any shops/ departmental stores/ discount
>stores selling indian musical instruments such as tabla, imported from
>india. If any one of you happened to know please send this information such 
>as store name(s) and address(es) including city name(s).
>
   On a slightly tangential but related note, I know of a friend
here who found it impossible to get hold of left-handed instruments,
specifically the stringed variety.  Apparently, there is no
provision for left-handed players in the Indian instruments, unlike
a guitar, for example (a la Jimi Hendrix).  Is this correct ?
                                                 Srinivas
-- 
Srinivas Bettadpur        Internet : byab314@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu
P.O. Box 8520, Austin, Tx. 78713-8520, U.S.A.  Tel. (512) 471 4332
BITNET : byab314@uthermes
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: verma@pfeast.enet.dec.com (Virendra Verma)
Subject: Re: Islam - a religion that breeds trouble
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 25 JAN 93 12:50:07    


In article <C1A5r3.7tn@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, rafatm@sage.cc.purdue.edu (unknown) writes...
>In article <lm0o7jINN9mn@kalahari.cs.utexas.edu>, anshu@cs.utexas.edu (Anshuman Goyal) writes:
>the right to practive their own religion. 
> 
>   BTW, judging from your name I will make the assumption (correct me if I`m
>wrong) that you are a Hindu. You have wrtten much flasehood and have tried to
>unsuccessfuly insinnuate that Muslims are responsible for all of the worlds
>problems. I wonder if most people in the BJP have that same attitude. If so,
>we know why they destroyed the Babri Masjid.
> 
>cheers
>Rafat Sadiq
> 

	... and in Iraq by George Bush.

	Do you believe that Muslim rulers in India were very nice to Hindus?
	Or in modern time, Paki and Afghanis are nice to Hindus in these
	lands? If you believe so, I have no further questions.

	Why are Pakis so concerned about Indian Hindus and not so much 
	concerned about hungery Muslims in Somalia and Bangladesh?

	I can tell you one thing. BJP will be very nice to Muslims in
	India. Under BJP rule, it may turn out that the Indian Muslims 
	might turn against Pakis. That is why Pakis are afraid of
	BJP. It might not be that bad after all because Pakis understand
	danda not gentle behavior. A straight talk with Pakis will keep
	them quiet.

	I can tell you that you are a Paki not an Indian Muslim. An Indian
	Muslim doesn't need be told as to how they are treated in India by
	Hindus unless he/she is a paki agent.

namaste,

-- Virendra Verma
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: jmahajan@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Jayant Mahajan)
Subject: Re: What is and isn't Hindutva (Was Re: Dr. Jayaraman's article)
Organization: Northeastern University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:56:33 GMT

	TO INDIA ALERT

Whoever runs India Alert I would like to be on your mailing list. If you
do not make me one.  Then you have something to hide. What are you guys
scared of. Talk of Fascism and Dictatorial behaviour. If you do not make
me one. I will have to file legal action against you for discrimination.
And I am serious. Can experienced netters advice me on how to get them
make it open. This is not Stalin Raj or Jyoti Basu Raj you know. 
You guys are using public priviledges to run your propaganda machine. Do
it in open. I know you guys have media and political connections. But
there are no hidden Leftists and Marxists in America. 

MAKE INDIA ALERT OPEN TO ME OR FACE LEGAL ACTION. I WILL GIVE YOU GUYS
TILL MONDAY.

IPSG (To whom I wasted my $20)
A warning to all netters. These are Marxists and Naxalite group, working
against India and its interests. Looks like they have strong connections
with INDIA ABROAD. No wonder such small commie group gets so much
coverage on this anti Indian News paper. I would urge all netters to
write strongly to Editor Gopal Raju of India Abroad against such bias
coverage. Unless he is also on INDIA ALERT secret list. I know for sure
that this Gopal Raju is a Leftist leaning individual with very pro
Indira Gandhi (during her flirtations with the Leftists from 1970 -1978)
writings. Also his INDIA ABROAD FOUNDATION to whom I have donated to has
sent some money to CHRISTIAN MISSIONARY ORGANISATIONS engaged in
Proselytisation. (I learned this last week).

These LEFTISTS and COMMUNISTS have infiltrated in MEDIA, EDUCATIONAL
INSTITUTIONS, POLITICS and even some SOCIAL SERVICE ORGANISATIONS. I
have heard some rumour that they have infiltrated even the Ramkrishna
MIssion in India. (this I have no proof for, some netter with definite
proof can present it later).

As for Mr. Deepak Srivastava of Penn State are youa member of IPSG. IF
you are then man you have been thoroughly brain washed.

INDIA ALERT - I will be waiting for your reply.

Proud to be a Bharatiya. Despise Communist and Anti National Ideology

jk
From: renjit_d1@verifone.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Looking for Cheri Mathew
Date: 22 Jan 93 01:11:27 -1000
Organization: VeriFone Inc., Honolulu HI

Hello..
 I am looking for my friend Cheri Mathew who was working with me 
at COROMANDEL SOFTWARE LTD, BANGALORE. He is currently doing M.B.A
at Indiana University, Bloomington. He is married. He is originally
from Mavelikkara, Kerala.
If any one knows his whereabouts please inform me at the following 
e-mail address
              "Renjit_d1@blrv1.verifone.com"
Thanking you in advance...
Bye / Renjit Darwin
From: krudra@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: TRAVEL AGENTS??????
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:30:06 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

INFORMATION ON TRAVEL AGENTS
Could some one send me information (phone mumbers, add'ses and 
reliability etc) on travel agents from the North East part of the US.
I want a good deal for travel to New Delhi, India.
Thanks in advance,
Kaushik Rudra.
From: dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Interesting Headline
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:57:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: kuhub.1993Jan26.115702.46778
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <C1G3v5.BKy@newsflash.concordia.ca>, sagar@ECE.Concordia.CA (Sagar Naik) writes:
> Once I saw some more "interesting" headline in a Punjabi weekly
> published somewhere in Canada:
> 
> 		"Paanch Khadku Shahid, Chaar Pulis Mare"
> 
> Sagar
> --

  Abbey Sagar ! Thik sey isi time nahin paraya - bachchalogko to sala tera
  evaluation sheet baarbad ho jaiga. Concordia (Junkordia 8-)) key tamam
  baadmash log zindabad ! Give my best regards to Prof.T.Radhakrishnan.

  Tereko Punjabi nahin ata ! Tu eitna jhut kyon bolta hai ?

  - deb chatterjee
  (a good samaritan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: vijay@austin.ibm.com (Vijay Joglekar)
Subject: Re: shiv sena/Bombay riots
Originator: vijay@vijay.austin.ibm.com
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:44:44 GMT
Reply-To: vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM (Aix Tools Development)


In article <1993Jan20.205129.17835@fuug.fi>, an4234@anon.penet.fi writes:
> 
> 
> >Vijay Joglekar (jogi@austin.ibm.com) wrote:
> >: 
> >: Just got here from Bombay.  If it had not been for Shiv-Sena Bombay would be
> >: burning...
> >: -- 
> >
> 
>   Joglekar Dada, KAI JHALA, you are obviously a card carrying member 
>   of the SS terrorist group. Since you were also physically present there,
>   TELL US ALL HOW DOES IT FEEL TO KILL SMALL CHILDREN AND WOMEN AND BURN 
>   THERE HOMES. How many did you personally score ?
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help@anon.penet.fi.
> Due to the double-blind system, any replies to this message will be anonymized,
> and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned.

IF you want to insult me come out in the open and do so.  I just put down
what i read in the papers and heard from people.  You don't have to
anonymous post an insult.  Maybe you are a member of the SS death squad...

 **********************************************************************
                Vijay Joglekar - arbiter elagantiarum
  Disclaimer: These are my opinions and my opinions only. Has nothing
                       to do with where I work.
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