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From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: Color Printer Woes
Reply-To: eps@cs.sfsu.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:16:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.154233.29551@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
	eboltz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Eric Scott Boltz) writes:
>My division has decided to buy a color printer for our network of Suns,
>PeeCees and (soon) one NeXT. We want the print to hang off the NeXT, but
>here's the problem: the NeXT color printer is o.k. output, we'd prefer
>something like the Tek Phase PXIIi plain paper printer (~$9k), BUT
>the NeXT has NO PARALLEL PORT!

Better printers can usually be ordered with a choice of interface
options.  For example, the Tektronix Phaser III PXi comes in a
"PXN" model with Ethernet and BSD-friendly LPD protocol support.

					-=EPS=-
From: paul@music.sie.arizona.edu (Paul J. Sanchez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Supra fax/data modem?
Keywords: does it work
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:11:13 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group

Does anyone know whether the Supra fax/data modems work with NeXT?  Is any  
software required above and beyond NS3.0's faxreader?

--paul
paul@sie.arizona.edu
NeXT mail happily accepted
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From: hwr@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org (Heiko W.Rupp)
Subject: Re: Can drive problems induce a system panic?
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 12:02:58 GMT
Organization: The Home of the Pilhuhn

jblevins@uniwa.uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Jim Blevins) writes:
>My question then is this: Is the panic a likely symptom of early drive
>problems, or is it more probable that the two effects are unrelated?

It does not need to be a symptom of _early_ problems, but it can be a
symptom of problems.
I had a Fujitsu M2624 drive (520M). When it got hot, it failed to
recalibrate correctly. After too much errors, the kernel unmounted the
drive to not cause data loss due to writes on a wrong track. This has
not been a good idea, as it was the root partition and so the kernel
panicked.

-- 
Heiko W.Rupp  Gerwigstr.5  7500 Kh'e 1  hwr@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org  +49 721 693642
I've got an IDEA!!  Why don't I STARE at you so HARD,
 you forget your SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER!!
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From: abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell)
Subject: Re: New RISC workstations / 88110 demise
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 00:35:49 GMT

songer@lexmark.com (Christopher Songer) writes:
> I don't see where the "underlying model" is going to affect the user or the
> Nextstep developer. (assuming that they don't write assembly -- a pretty good 
> assumption on Nextstep.)

Actually, I do write assembler fairly often. Even when I'm writing C, I'm
thinking about what the compiler is going to do with my code. This is a
reasonable effort on a reasonable machine, but not on any kind of 8086,
regardless of how fast it goes. A computer is a tool used by a mind, not
a substitute for a mind. CPUs need to be designed for this kind of interaction.

Steve abell@netcom.com
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From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths)
Subject: Re: New RISC workstations / 88110 demise
Keywords: mach multiple processors NeXT OS RISC
Organization: Primitive Software Ltd.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 12:46:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov05.201425.147119@lexmark.com> songer@lexmark.com (Christopher Songer) writes:
>
>PS: Does anyone else find it interesting that shared objects work on top of
>RPC rather than mach ports?

Yes, very interesting. Is this evidence of a shift of strategy by NeXT away
from mach and towards making NeXTStep portable to any Unix? Can't think why
else they'd do it.

Dave Griffiths
From: eboltz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Eric Scott Boltz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: New SPARC Classic
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:55:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: jhunix.1992Nov10.215517.5266
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore

The new Sun SPARCClassic (Tsunami based) offers 15" color and
a 200MB hard disk for $3995.

Ok NeXT, give us an OS for this one...

Eric
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From: esky@marathon.cs.ucla.edu (Eskandar Ensafi)
Subject: Hard drive doing strange things & OD question
Keywords: od optical hard disk drive
Reply-To: esky@marathon.cs.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 22:35:21 GMT

Hi,

Occasonally, my hard drive (internal 330 MB, original cube) has failed to start  
up (no whirring sound and the machine doesn't boot).  I used the ROM monitor  
bsd command, and it said "Waiting for drive to get ready......................"
and again, it never booted.

This doesn't always happen, but it's annoying.  When I power off my cube and  
turn it on again, everything is fine and the hard drive powers up.

Sometimes, it powers up alright but I hear the whirring die down and then pick  
up again -- under these circumstaces, the machine boots but the hard drive  
noise shouldn't die and come back like that.

What could the problem be? (PLEASE REPLY BY E-MAIL -- THANK YOU!)

- Eskandar

P.S.  OD question: do all NeXT internal OD's supplied with the original cubes  
eventually die after a while, or is it possible to have an OD running without  
problems for 4 or more years?
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From: andrew@cubetech.com
Subject: Re: New RISC workstations / 88110 demise
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 03:22:16 GMT

In article <BxGEsK.Kwr.2@cs.cmu.edu> ddj+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug DeJulio) writes:
>There's no way you can guarantee that.  On a workstation like the
>NeXT, being sold to ordinary folks, the animation has to look good and
>smooth *even* *if* they're running a heavy Mathematica process in the
>background, or else it won't look good up against Macs and PCs with
>this capability.

You can't look me straight in the eye and tell me that either
Macintosh or Windows can run a good, smooth viedo animation *and* have
a heavy Mathematica process in the backgroud.  Yes if Mathematica is
frozen, which is what happens.


andrew
-- 
andrew@cubetech.com     | "Carpe Nocturn - I get more work done after
Andrew Loewenstern      |  2 a.m. than most people do all day."
Cube Technologies, Inc. |                          - Simson Garfinkel
From: 2575brooksr@vms.csd.mu.edu (Ryan K. Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTBUS Specification
Date: 12 Nov 1992 03:17:14 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 2575brooksr@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsa.csd.mu.edu

Could someone please send me a full spec on the above topic.  Email
or a FTP site.  Thanks much.

 ----------------------------
 Ryan K. Brooks                        "You're never dead till you're        
 2575BrooksR@vms.csd.mu.edu                  out of quarters."     
 Marquette University EECE              
 NemeSys Corporation
 "Curtains for Windows"
From: sstaton@micrografx.com (Steven R. Staton)
Subject: Re: HP LaserJet 4 PPD file needed
Organization: Micrografx, Inc.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 16:08:30 GMT

In article <1992Oct29.064413.17217@gagetalker.com>  writes:
> Does anyone know where I can get a NeXT compatible PPD file for this
> incredible printer? I've been using the Apple Laserwriter //g PPD
> file but I suspect that things would look even better with the proper
> PPD file.
> 

Access the Adobe File Server and look in the PPD library.  Failing that,  
contact HP tech support (which probably has a PPD already).  Failing that,  
use the HP IIISi file, which is relatively similar.
-- 
     Steven R. Staton      |   The two most common things in the
     Micrografx, Inc.      | Universe are Dark Matter and Stupidity
  sstaton@micrografx.com   |
From: rsherme@diamond.nswc.navy.mil (Russel Shermer (R43))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT Uninterruptible Power Supply recommendations
Keywords: UPS
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:17:07 GMT
Organization: NAVSWC DD White Oak Det.

We have a 1200VX made by APC.  It is massive overkill.  It can run the
NeXTstation 2 modems and some other equipment for well over an hour.


You should know that you can buy a small APC for around $100 now.   One
feature that makes them very attractive is that they can be configured
to run an RS232 connection into your machine and shut it down (ie, call
shutdown -p) before the UPS runs out of juice.  I think this is a 
wonderful feature.

	---Russ
From: ambi@it-next2.bu.edu (Michael Amirault)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: (Inexpensive) Backup Drives
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:23:31 GMT


 Does anyony have any recommendations on drives (tape, optical,
or DAT) for the NeXT that meet the following requirements:

 1) Under ~$350 - Including media.
 2) Preferably internal. I have 2 bays open on my external drive.
 3) Suffice for backing up a 660MB drive (ie. use <5 tapes)

 I have seen cheap (~$150) QIC tape drives for PC's and such so
there must be some SCSI ones around the can work with the NeXT.

 Any help would be appreciated,

	Thanks,
		Mike 
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From: gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu (George B. Ross)
Subject: Re: slow Fujitsu 2624FA 520MB disk?
Reply-To: gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:32:33 GMT

In article <1du33lINN7qg@mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE>  
bruehl@kalium.physik.tu-berlin.de writes:
> 
> I have installed System 3.0 on a new Fujitsu 2624FA (520MB Fast Model) and  
> was surprised of slow transfer rates. 
> 
> Write: 800 kB/sec *** but read only 400 kB/sec *** 
> tested by DrivePerformance, cp and a self made C program.
> These results are independent of SCSI-1 or SCSI-2 mode, and 1024 or 512  
> byte sectors.
> 
> What did I made wrong?

please e-mail replies to me as well, I am receiving my Fujitsu
M2624FA tommorrow and need to avoid any mistakes that this person
has made.
Also, any info on the necessary disktab entries would be nice...
Thanks in advance
-george
===============  NeXT mail more than welcome  ==================
George B. Ross          Heavens, I don't like the looks of that.
gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu                        --Stimpson J. Cat
From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Color Printer Woes
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:35:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: cyantic.1992Nov09.213548.9009
Organization: CYANTIC Systems

In article <1992Nov9.154233.29551@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> eboltz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Eric Scott Boltz) writes:
>My division has decided to buy a color printer for our network of Suns,
>PeeCees and (soon) one NeXT. We want the print to hang off the NeXT, but
>here's the problem: the NeXT color printer is o.k. output, we'd prefer
>something like the Tek Phase PXIIi plain paper printer (~$9k), BUT
>the NeXT has NO PARALLEL PORT!
>
>Just think, a 3-4Meg Postscript file could take 20minute to send over
>a serial line - totally unacceptable.
>
>Has anyone found an alternative? Are there 'good' printers that support
>SCSI input (many have SCSI for a hard disk, but not input)?

Put it on the network.  Have you had a look at one of the TCP/IP-Ethernet
printer controllers.  Milan's is supposed to work well and I have used the
one from Microplex with no problems though I no longer have access to it.

These boxes are attached directly to the Ethernet and software is run on
the CPU that has the controlling spooler to send files down to the box.
Milan's boxes have one serial and one parallel port.  I don't know how much
memory they have or the exact details on how they communicate with the
spooler, but it's worth a try.

They support Sun, and perhaps they could be talked into a NeXT port since
Berserkley is underneath both.

Milan's number is: 408-752-2770.

More and more printers are coming out with direct Ethernet connections, so
maybe Tektronics will be there soon.

Hope this helps.
-- 

Mark T. Dornfeld                              Voice: (416) 234-9048
CYANTIC Systems                               Facsimile: (416) 234-0477
101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103                Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: sritchie@cs.ubc.ca (Stuart Ritchie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: New RISC workstations / 88110 demise
Date: 7 Nov 1992 14:55:39 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: stephen.cs.ubc.ca

In article <TTN.92Nov7121543@kivikkorastas.cs.tut.fi> ttn@cs.tut.fi (Tero Nieminen) writes:
>Mach 3 is a true micro kernel, unlike the Mach 2 that is a traditional
>monolithic kernel.

Well, depends on how you look at it.  Also, I don't think anyone
has really figured out what a microkernel is.  Where do you draw
the line?

In terms of abstractions, I think March 3.0 is perhaps a microkernel.
In terms of implementation, there's nothing "micro" about it.

Stuart
From: songer@lexmark.com (Christopher Songer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: New RISC workstations / 88110 demise
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:22:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: lexmark.1992Nov06.152200.170781
Organization: Lexington, KY
X-Disclaimer: These views are the poster's and not necessarily those of Lexmark

dan@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu (Daniel Shelton) writes (in one long line):
>
>From what I have heard about Intel's chips is that in their rush to get them out the door, the chips still have bugs in them.  Does this mean that if NeXT goes with Intel then those persons who buy the first risc machines will be plagued with bugs and constantly having to replace the processors?  Maybe Motorola does deliver the chips later than Intel but they take care of their bugs so we don't have to.
>
>Dan

My gut reaction is to ask how many silicon eratta joe user has had to
fix :) Usually bugs at the chip level are covered in the trap handlers 
and compilers. Say that the P5's bugs slow it down 20% over a "bug free"
P5 due to extra trap handlers and limitations on the compilers. That's 
still going to blow the doors off Moto's 680X0 line for the next year. 
Aditionally, one can reasonably expect the P5 to sell quite a bit
better than the 88110 -- implying a lower cost product.

Intel's chips may be buggy, the instruction set may be ugly, but they
are fast for the price. The silicon eratta and non-orthogonal instruction 
set would be dealt with by people at Next. The benefits would be
speed and price for the users. Sounds like a good choice if they've
got good people. (And they do.)


-Chris
From: rdf@arad.ucsd.edu (Ronald D. Fellman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Old Floptical Spin Problem Revisited...
Date: 9 Nov 92 03:58:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: deadmin.2245
Organization: ECE Department, University of California at San Diego

My old R/W Optical Drive is starting to have spin problems.  However, I
did try cleaning it (with that fancy tool they sold) and tried other 
ODs.  I'm afraid that the problem might be that the laser diode is
getting weak.  Does that sound plausible? 

Has anyone had experience fixing this problem when cleaning doesn't work?
Any comments would be GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks,
-ron fellman (rfellman@ucsd.edu)
From: szatrows@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: New RISC workstations / 88110 demise
Date: 6 Nov 92 06:43:07 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

SUN S-BUS?  Ick!  Anyway everyone's got their own dreams, Its just
weird how people that bought the same computer have such diametrically
opposed wish lists !-)

Why stop at just 4 CPU's?  Have a bus that can handle cards that would
allow N CPU's?  Only 2 3.5" drives!!  Way too little space, I would
prefer room for 6 5.25" full height devices and maybe 2 3.5" devices.
Standard color should be a minimum of what the original specs on the
ND were.

	Well, I wont hold my breath ;-)

later, John
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From: mjhostet@athena.mit.edu (Mat Hostetter)
Subject: Re: New RISC workstations / 88110 demise
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 18:14:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.205045.26293@netcom.com> abell@netcom.com (Steven T.  
Abell) writes:
> songer@lexmark.com (Christopher Songer) writes:
> 
> > Intel's chips may be buggy, the instruction set may be ugly, but they
> > are fast for the price. The silicon eratta and non-orthogonal instruction 
> > set would be dealt with by people at Next. The benefits would be
> > speed and price for the users. Sounds like a good choice if they've
> > got good people. (And they do.)
> 
> Unfortunately, you can't just brush of an obnoxious architecture by saying
> "The compiler people will worry about this." Let's stay real, folks.
> Underlying models matter, and the Intel model is about as bad as they come.
> If this is what we have to live with, I suppose we'll manage somehow,
> but if you think it doesn't affect you, you're wrong.

This is true, especially if you look ahead 10 years.  While it's true that the  
P5 will be fast and cheap, it's a bad choice for the long run "high end"  
machine.  Let's face it, the architecture is inherently crippled.  If NeXT  
wants to think long term they should use a visionary architecture like DEC's  
Alpha, which was designed from scratch to be competitive (actually, 50% faster  
than the competition) for the next 20+ years.  It's clean, it's fast, and it  
will keep getting faster.  Intel will hit a brick wall with this series of  
chips, no matter how many hundreds of millions they pour into it.

The P5 may be a good choice for a LOW end machine, though, once mass production  
drops the price.

-Mat
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From: caj8106@zacnxt15.tamu.edu (Curtis A Johnson)
Subject: Re: New RISC workstations / 88110 demise
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 01:05:24 GMT

In article <Bx83uH.50v@netnews.jhuapl.edu> chuck@nighthawk.jhuapl.edu  
(Chuck (Non-Peon) Waltrip) writes:
> In article <1d6hsuINNi85@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> mcgredo@prism.CS.ORST.EDU  
> (Don McGregor) writes:
> 	[...regarding rumor that NeXT might use Intel P5 processor...]
> > I don't know why they'd bother.  There are going to be a zillion  
> low-margin
> > clone makers making 586 boxes, so there won't be any shortage of them.
> > NeXT has a neat factory, but I don't think they'd want to get into
> > a price war with CloneTek Computers and Fishing Bait inc.

Personally I don't really care what chip NeXTstep runs on.  I don't even  
care if NeXT makes another machine.  The future of computers is Operating  
Systems, not hardware.  There are tons of people out there making  
hardware, but the OS is the most important part.  I think that NeXT going  
to an Intel Chip is a good idea.  I would like to see NeXT go up against  
Microsoft (Windows NT), IBM(OS/2), and Sun(Solaris) head on.  If NeXT has  
any skill at marketing (which they don't right now) and strategic skill  
they could actually pull of the computing upset of the last 2 decades.
	
NeXT should actually quit the hardware business and specialize in  
software.  Hardware companies are just commodities these days, ask SUN  
about that, SUN knows that there is no money in hardware these days, it's  
in the OS.  Besides, the hardware business is too competitive for a new  
company like NeXT.  If IBM is having trouble selling machines, NeXT  
doesn't have a chance in hell.

NeXT should just focus on NeXTstep.  NeXTstep for Intel chips is the first  
step in the right direction.  The next port should be to SPARC chips.  I  
was reading a Workstation magazine the other day, and Hyundai has a new  
line of Workstations out that would be great for NeXTstep, the article  
even said that they modeled their machines after the NeXT look and feel.   
SPARC is definitely a port that needs to be done.  With a SPARC port, I  
could see SUNsoft going out of Business pretty soon.

NeXT should try to put NeXTstep on every piece of hardware they can get.   
If they don't Microsoft will.  Here is the order in which they should  
port.

	1) Intel			in the bag
	2) SPARC			a lot of machines
	3) RS/6000			IBM will be begging
	3) Alpha			SGI + NeXTstep wow!
	4) PA-RISC			HP's hardware is the best / $
	5) Power PC			Take over the entire desktop mkt.
	
NeXT has the opportunity to do what Microsoft wants to do, but with a 5  
year lead.  If NeXT has any kind of balls at all, 75% of all machines,  
from Mini's to Desktops, should be running NeXTstep.

If Jobs is the Visionary that I thought he was he'll take a chance on the  
OS.


Curtis
caj8106@Venus.tamu.edu
No NeXTmail for now!
From: szatrows@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Fragmentation & performance
Date: 6 Nov 92 04:30:31 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I've had my swap file grow to 400+ megs!!!!  But that wasnt what
really trashed my drive.  I was moving literally hundreds of thousands
of files around and some were HUGE and some were incredibly tiny.
Anyway if you move that much stuff around you hard drive things start
to get mushed to and fro after time.  Again after doing a rebuild the
system was running at least 50% faster.  The swap space may have been
part of the problem.

	I know that unix takes measures to prevent fragmantation but
nothing to take care of the INEVITABLE fragmentation that will occur.
On the mac there used to be an init (daemon more or less) that used to
defragment the drive in the background.  Something like this would
work wonders for a NeXT system; the NeXT seems to be a BIG mover of
data-- much more data flow than your average workstation or PC (at
least from what I've seen).

	later, John
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From: rca@cs.brown.edu (Ronald C. Antony)
Subject: Re: New RISC workstations / 88110 demise
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 09:36:14 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.005521.7041@u.washington.edu> basiji@stein.u.washington.edu (David Basiji) writes:
>nevin@dtint.dtint.com writes:
>>> They must be in protracted debate over whether to call it the  
>>"SuperUltraNitro"
>>> or "UltraNitro" or some other utterly tasteless appelation.
>>How about "TurboNitro"?
>How about something that has nothing to do with automotive technology?

Well, then they should switch to aeronautics. How about TurboProp?
The next generation could then be called Jet, closely followed by
Afterburner...  :-)

Ronald


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From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Information about Steve Jobs
Date: 4 Nov 92 11:49:27 GMT
Organization: Primitive Software Ltd.

In article <Bx67rv.M6o@ccu.umanitoba.ca> tacchi@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Mark G. Tacchi) writes:
>In <gunnaraa.12.720801002@dhhalden.no> gunnaraa@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR AARNES) writes:
>
>>We are some students who are going to write an essay about Steve Jobs.
>>Any help will be appreciated(history, facts...)
>
>There is an interesting book called "Accidental Millionaire."  It's about the
>2 Steve's from before the beginning of apple to when Jobs left to form NeXT.
>

I read a biography of Steve Jobs called "The Journey is the Reward" about
a month after buying my cube. It made scary reading. A lot of NeXT's
waywardness over the past couple of years is explained by Steve Jobs
personality. The guy is an arrogant egomaniac, er... I mean visionary.

Dave Griffiths
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