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Subject: Re: Bikes Indoors (Was Re: SOMEONE TRIED TO STEAL MY)
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 7 Nov 92 01:56:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * 501-985-0059 * Public Access Usenet


-> upset, but the fire department?  Though I don't agree with it, I have
-> no doubt there are fire codes prohibiting having non-approved
-> containers of gasoline indoors, but how did he know?  Whould he have
-> beat your door down if you didn't answer, just to find out?

 Approved by whom?  You'd expect, with the EPA, DOT, NHTSA, and probably
the CIA all regulating the design of motor vehicle fuel tanks, it'd be
"approved" enough.

 About the only thing I've noticed about "aproved" fuel containers is
that they're vented to prevent pressure from building up if they get
hot.  Most fuel tanks are vented, and a helluva lot better, too.
                                                              
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From: dbidwa@sei.cmu.edu (Daniel Bidwa)
Subject: Re: Won't be in Colorado...
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:35:23 GMT

keith@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Keith Harris) sez:
>The point is, and this is how I believe the voters of the great state of
>Colorado viewed it, NO BODY should get special treatment due to their beliefs,
>status, race, religion, or anything else.  I beleive the voters were saying
>that we are ALL equal.  I am sure that some anti-gay factions promoted the
>legislation in their strange homophobic ways, but that doesn't mean the state
>endorses that position.

Oh, we're all equal. I guess that explains why the legislation singled
out "homosexual, lesbian or bisexual orientation, conduct, practices or
relationships" (that's straight (ahem) from the legislation, folks).

I think the voters were saying "we've been duped by `some anti-gay factions'
into voting for a bigoted amendment that's going to seriously mar our
beautiful state".

_____________________________________________________________________________
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From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Subject: Re: Won't be in Colorado...
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 05:25:44 GMT

In article <daved.721341979@convex.convex.com> daved@convex.com (David Dorfman) writes:
>I have a few questions to add to this debate:
>
>1) Why should anyone at your work place need to know your sexual 
>   orientation? Sex should be left at home. There is already to
>   much sexual harrassment and discrimination at work. Let's all strive
>   for an assexual workplace.

I don't agree.  I prefer to have a friendly workplace.  Part of
friendliness is knowing more about people, and that sometimes includes
their sexual orientation.  Straight people have no compunction about
revealing their sexual identities; why should gay people? 
>
>2) Does colorado have any job or civil rights protection in place for the
>   general population?  I know that I must document and warn any employee
>   of specific conditions displaying lack of job performance prior to  
>   termination.

The discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation which is encouraged
by CO2 has nothing to do with job performance.  The people who sponsored
the measure want the freedom to fire people for not for what they do at
work, but for what they do off work. 

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From: keith@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Keith Harris)
Subject: Re: Won't be in Colorado...
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:25:36 GMT

osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) writes:

In your post you stated the following:
>However, Colorado yesterday enacted a new state constitutional amendment
>enforcing discrimation against gays and lesbians.  I will, therefore,
>not be spending any money (and therefore) time in the state.  In fact,
>you can be assured that I will not only be encouraging everybody I know to
>boycott the state but also to work as hard as possible to ruin the local
>economy.  Gays didn't put up a fight in Nazi Germany (*), but this time
>it will be different.

Let's not be extreme.  Do you really thing that sexual preference is a
justifiable reason for SPECIAL PRIVILEGES?  Should a gay or lesbian be
given special compensation in housing, jobs, and going to the head of the
checkout line at Safeway?  I think not.  This amendment only states that
these things should not happen.  It is NOT anti-gay legislation.  I have
no problem with a persons sexual preference, but I don't believe they
should get special treatment because of it.  Just as a heterosexual should
not get any special treatment over a gay individual.  The point is, and
this is how I believe the voters of the great state of Colorado viewed it,
NO BODY should get special treatment due to their beliefs, status, race,
religion, or anything else.  I beleive the voters were saying that we are
ALL equal.  I am sure that some anti-gay factions promoted the legislation
in their strange homophobic ways, but that doesn't mean the state endorses 
that position.  

So I suggest that you chill out a bit and continue to make plans to travel
through Colorado.  It is too beautiful a state to pass up because of your
own prejudices.  And if you do have homosexual preferences, I don't think
you need to be concerned about being drawn and quartered because of it.  If
not, the gay and lesbian communities are lucky to have a heterosexual as
passionate towards their cause as you.

Keith Harris
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Break-in (what is it?)
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:08:41 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 92Nov5123720@bigwpi.WPI.EDU, rtaraz@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz) writes:
>
>I was asked by somebody about why a motorcyle has to be broken-in.
>Although I kinda know why, I couldn't give a good answer.
>Can you guys give a good convincing answer?

Same reason a car or lawn mower needs to be broken in.

The engine and its constituent parts are not manufactured exactly to
precise measurements, but to precise measurements, *within a
tolerance*.  Since not all the parts are the same size, or even vary
from nominal in the same direction, there are some tight spots and some
lose spots.  Break-in is the period in which you gently run the motor,
gradually increading revs and loads, and let the little parts rub
against each other and file themselfs down and chip each other off
(microscopically) until they all fit together well.

Think of it as all your engine parts getting to know each other.  Once
they become friends, they work together better.

The reason you change the oil so fast (500-600 mi) is that this is the
time it will collect the most abrasive metal shavings, as the parts
grind each other to a good fit.  Back in the old days, when
manufacturing technology was less advanced, the parts were deliberately
spec'ed too large to fit, and special break-in oil, containing some
good gritty additives, was used during break-in to help file them down
to size.

If this is one of those "sucker" questions, well, fuck it, somebody was
probably really wondering, anyway.

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DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Test your knowledge
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 21:41:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.182952.5105@colorado.edu> alex@lyra.colorado.edu (Alex Matthews) writes:
>Quiz for First Snow Partygoers:
>
>1. Complete the following sentence: 
>      
>    "Indians don't leak oil, they just _______."

Pose on T-shirts.

>2. Laszlo's sole purpose for existence is to own a bike with loud pipes
>   and ride it 
>   a. with vim and verve.
>   b. to his wedding with Mikii.
>   c. home to suburbia.
>   d. to hell and then back home to suburbia.

e. Up his driveway.

>5. Road Rash is
>   a. a video game for shut-ins.
>   b. a painful skin condition often resulting from maneuvering delicately
>      with great skill to where is not accessible.
>   c. a tasty chocolate cake with vanilla frosting, motorcycles, and
>      terrifyingly lifelike barnyard animals, but no cops.

d.  A llama-borne STD.

>6. In the year 2015 an FJ rider will be overheard saying
>   a. "These are called carburetors.  All bikes had them back then."
>   b. "No, no, look, the swingarm is on the _rear_."
>   c. "Pay up."
>   d. "I hear they're making Yamahas again, but it's just a name, they're
>       not really Yamahas."

Trick question.  In 2015, there will be no FJs.  Unless strapped to the
back of a DeLorean.

>9. James Garnett 
>   a. is in Milan.
>   b. is in Boulder.
>   c. still thinks it's a question of character.
>   d. all of the above.

e. starred in the TV series "The Rockfottd Files".

>10. John Sloan says his hot tub is working.  He is 
>   a. bluffing.
>   b. confused.
>   c. asking for trouble.
>   d. the humble and selfless host of this December's Ride'n'Freeze.
>   e. a and c.
f. proudly displaying "The 'Sickle Ball".

-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
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From: csl@swl.msd.ray.com (Scott Lilliott)
Subject: Re: Cops Suck! Cops Suck!
Organization: Raytheon Company, Tewksbury, MA
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 13:10:09 GMT

jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker) writes:



>That's basically it.  Cops Suck!

>Goodfornothing muthereffing sonofawhores!

>Thanks for letting me get that off my chest.

>-- 
>------------------------------------------------------------>DarkMan-------->
>Case Western Reserve University,  Cleveland, Ohio            DoD #650
>Anyone know where a BSME can get a job?  Available 1/93.  This is for real!

Another ticket John?

S.
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 #  AMA #600897   "Countersteering is like benchracing. A bunch of posers   
#   DoD #0227      standing around the parts counter lying about all the
 #  INOA #8563     great twisties they've steered through."- Bill Ranck DoD 496
From: tjohnson@atcc5.prime.com (Tod J Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Big Fat Hairy etc.
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:53:35 GMT
Reply-To: tjohnson@atc1.UUCP (Tod J Johnson)
Organization: Computervision, Bedford MA

In article <1d9c4lINNjo3@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>
>Tod didn't say he turned INTO a queer for a minute, just that he turned
>queer for a minute.  Which, for him, means we may have just seen the
>only minute of normalicy he will ever exhibit.
>
>Ed Green, former pornographic movie actor |I was drinking last night with a biker,

Ed;

	Thank-you for clearing this up for people who don't read with the 
insight of yourself. I did in fact mean to insinuate that I had fallen out 
of my big-mean-hairy-fat-raunchy-harley-fuckin-davidson characteristics,
into that of a clean-cut-yuppie-unmanly-sensitive-squid. This latter des-
cription is hardly the mold I fit into, as will my nedod and other dod
aquaintances attest. 

Thank-you;

Tod J. Johnson
DoD #883
"Go Slow, Take Geritol, Drink beer, Eat Fried Food, Burp, Fart, etc."
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From: morin@noao.edu (Marg Morin)
Subject: Re: Cops Suck!  Cops Suck!
Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson AZ
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:42:47 GMT

In article <BxKpo7.Cyo@news.iastate.edu> tomes@iastate.edu () writes:
>In article <1dr619INN59s@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker) writes:
>>That's basically it.  Cops Suck!
>>Goodfornothing muthereffing sonofawhores!
>
>Maybe if you didn't do anything to attract their attention you wouldn't have
>this attitude.
>
>They are only doing their jobs, which includes enforcing stupid laws that WE
>allowed our elected representatives to enact.
>
>In most countries, the police are accorded the respect that they deserve, on 
>the level of military officers or firemen.  Here, we have a confrontational
>attitude due entirely (imnsho) to traffic laws and the attitude of US drivers
>that driving is a right that should not be regulated. (Not MY fault, officer!)
>
>CP Tomes
>
>Slow down and keep your head up, and you will see more and hit less.
>

I couldn't have said it better, CP. Applause!

-- 
 MARG MORIN  "Call me M"		(morin@noao.edu)  
	aka: The Seeker   		 AURA/NOAO Tucson, AZ
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From: jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris)
Subject: Re: Uneven Front tyre
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:17:18 GMT

In article <LOTTO.92Nov5090906@laura.harvard.edu> lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto) writes:
>>>>>> On 4 Nov 92 17:00:34 GMT, erika@znext.cts.com (erik astrup) said:
>erik> 	Sounds like what you are describing is the front tire
>"cupping".
>erik> This is caused by using the front brake.
>NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
WHAT HE SAID!!!!!! I spoke to Metzler when my front tire started to cup
and they said that 95% of Metzler front tire cupping was due to
underinflation!!!!! Get out them pressure guages!!!!!

love them !'s
-John
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From: keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com (Keith A. Schauer)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: RF200's wired for sound --- how did you do it?
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:17:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: balrog.1992Nov10.001743.4071
Distribution: usa
Organization: Texas Instruments Information Technology Group    Plano TX

In article <cass8806.397.721263437@elan.glassboro.edu> cass8806@elan.glassboro.edu (KYLE CASSIDY) writes:
>In article <lfmg0nINN5sc@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> bender@oobleck (Duke of Canterbury) writes:
>>: Wait a moment! Aren't you dead?
>>
>>The Kennedy family tree is thus:
>>
>>	John Kennedy = screws women
>>	William Kennedy = rapes women
>>	Ted Kennedy = kills women
>>
>i hardly think that if ted had died in that car that people would be 
>accusing mary jo kopechni of killing a senator.
>
Probably true.  How often does the passenger get blamed for driving a
car off a bridge?
-- 
Keith Schauer		Texas Instruments	Plain O, Texas
80 CB900 Custom		
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			My company disavows any knowledge of my actions.
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From: henrik@tde.lth.se (Henrik B|rjeson)
Subject: high mileage
Organization: Applied Electronics, Lund University, Lund, Sweden
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:04:07 GMT

I saw in the paper yesterday an advert for an old Honda CB 750 at a
very affordable price. The problem is that the bike has run approx. 
18000 miles which seems to be a rather high mileage compared to
others.

Does anybody have any experience on how many miles one may assume that
an engine will last. Are there models more prone to wear than others ?
Which parts wear out and what should you look for
buying such a high mileage bike? Is it at all recommended ?

Ideas and opinions appreciated

Henrik
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From: leavitt@cs.umd.edu (Mr. Bill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Rubber brake hose failure?
Date: 12 Nov 92 01:06:10 GMT
Organization: The Cafe at the Edge of the Universe

space%bnr.ca (Scott Pace) writes:
>The owners manual for both of my bikes (both Suzuki) says that all
>hydraulic brake lines should be replaced every two years.  These are
>[...]
>Has anyone ever heard of rubber brake hoses failing, or is Suzuki just
>trying to cover their ass?

Likely a combination of "CYA" and creating business for the parts counter.

My '82 GS850G, with >53K miles, still has it's original hoses, and they
would seem to be fine.  Just give them a real good inspection a couple
times a year.  Look for evidence of dry rot.  Feel the hoses from master
cylinder to caliper, looking for soft spots or general softening.  Give
the brakes a good hard squeeze and observe how much the lines expand.
They should swell some, but not too much.  How much is 'too much'?  I
really don't know, but I'd say no more than 10%-15%.  Also look for a
greater amount of swelling in one area than for the rest of the line.
This might mean the start of an aneurism (sp?), which could potentially
lead to a catastrophic failure.

If your brakes seem to be spongey, even after a brake fluid change, this
is a good indicator that the lines may need replacement.

Mr. Bill
-- 
Bill Leavitt  DoD: #224  Domain: leavitt@cs.umd.edu  UUCP: uunet!mimsy!leavitt
1982 CBX (White Lightning), 1982 GS850G (Suzibago), 1976 CJ360T (Little Honda)
"Due to circumstances beyond your control,                               =o&>o
=o&>o                   you are master of your fate and captain of your soul."
From: ravi@sequoia.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Participate in the US Presidential straw poll!
Date: 5 Nov 1992 18:54:39 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: juniper.wpi.edu

In article <1992Nov05.133907.678@bnr.uk>, datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
|> 
|>   You don't need to make any changes then!
|> 
|> Nick (the Old-Empire-Lives-On Biker)   MAG 73516   DoD 1069   Raj Handbook
|> 

	nick, the old empire sure does live on... but elsewhere ;-)
	didn't you read my post about the royal enfield???

	peace,

	- ravi  (the-liberated-from-the-raj-biker) ;-)


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From: dbidwa@sei.cmu.edu (Daniel Bidwa)
Subject: Re: Won't be in Colorado...
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:03:21 GMT

daved@convex.com (David Dorfman):
>I'm sorry to say this but I don't find this law [Colorado's Amendment 2,
>which outlaws anti-discrimination laws based on sexual orientation] to be
>offensive, it simply codifies the opinion that people should NOT be given
>special protection of a protected class based on sexual orientation. Other
>laws designed to protect human rights of all persons should still apply.

First: 80 columns wide, pleeze.

Second: Preventing someone from being fired because of their sexual
orientation is hardly providing "special protection".

>Sexual orientation should never make a difference, if this is true then why
>would a person be entitled to special protections because of their sexual
>preference. Many people are discriminated against because of the religion
>they are born into, should they be entitled to special protection?

In theory, sexual orientation shouldn't make a difference. Neither should skin
color. Unfortunately, both seem to be sticking points with some people. Does
that mean it's "special protection" to insist, legally, that neither of those
points should make a difference?

>I sympathize with your outrage, but If I were you I would focus on education
>not striking out at people.

Welcome to class.



_____________________________________________________________________________
Dan Bidwa                             I believe nothing and in nothing.
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From: drinckes@nzl.abk.nec.co.jp (Doug Rinckes)
Subject: Re: Shaft effect, What is it?
Reply-To: drinckes@nzl.abk.nec.co.jp
Organization: Telecommunications Systems Support Centre, New Zealand
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:18:23 GMT

In article 431@megatek.com, randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis) writes:
>In article <Bx9r7H.6Gz@tridom.com> alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming) writes:
>|Agreed, you do see some racers on shaft drives.  However, if you ask Mike
>|(I did last weekend at the WERA races) he'll mention how one of his secrets
>|is being able to gear the bike so he can go through the turns (especially
>|the esses) without having to downshift.  Since he doesn't have to down
>|shift, *he doesn't have to deal with the shaft effects*.  Those were his
>|words, not mine.   'Course it also proves that proper gearing and *damned*
>|fine riding can nullify any shaft effect.
>
>  Thanks for posting this, Alan!
>
>  And to you people (mostly BMW-o-files) that sent me letters saying I was
>full of shit, and the one or two that posted to that effect:
>
>                                NYAH!!!! :-) :-)
>
>  I was right, I was right, you were wrong!!!  NYAH!!! :-) :-)  "Shaft-effect"
>exists, even though *most* of YOU never ride hard enough to know one way or
>the other!  (This of course, does NOT include Hesh, Phil, and a few others,
>but neither did they say I was wrong, either :-).
>
>  SO THERE!
>
>  I feel much better, now... :-)
>
>Randy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com

Now, now, settle please.  Most people who ride BMs will probably deny shaft
effect (rise and fall of the tail) because ..... they are used to it.  I
don't notice it - because it doesn't feel weird.  If I ride a chain drive now,
I *definitely* notice the _chain_ effect (equals absence of shaft), so, no nyahs
please.

Although I've never heard of this dude Mike, I would say that he is probably
a darned good rider - and out there on a race track on a bike that is probably
giving away 10-20 hp to the other bikes, and he made 10th!  I think that shows
that the difference is pretty negligable.

The only disadvantages of a shaft I can see is that:

	i)	Changes of gearing are currently harder and more expensive
		(though not necessarily).
	ii)	The movement of the tail of the bike under acceleration and
		deceleration will produce a slightly more unsettled bike under
		extreme riding conditions.

Neither of which have been mentioned by you, or anyone else in this discussion
except by Mike in a roundabout sort of way.

Why can't we just accept that each method of drive can be used for just about
anything, and will be dumped as soon as a good hydraulic drive system comes
along?  (Evil grin.....)

Yours, expectantly

Doug Rinckes, Network Administrator | drinckes@nzl.abk.nec.co.jp
Telecommunications Systems Support  | Know anything about Charon over
Centre New Zealand Ltd              | ODI drivers?  Mail me.  Please.
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