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From: Steve.Larson@p0.f10.n3402.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Larson)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: WINDOWS 3.1 AND COMMUNICA
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 23:35:42 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3402/10.0 - Westwood High Schoo, Ft McMurray AB

In a message <04 Jan 93  13:50:09> to <Joshua Kramer> about <Re: WINDOWS 3.1 AND COMMUNICA>,
Kevin Mccluskey wrote:

 KM> the Windows version I would use it more.  For my money, the upgrade to
 KM> Windows version was a waste. 

Aha!  Suspicions confirmed!  Thanks for the reassurance, Kevin!
I am fighting the urge to buy the version of everything until I really
"NEED" it!  :-)              ...er...and can afford it!

Regards,
Steve


... You can't have everything....Where would you put it?

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From: Jack.Loflin@p0.f721.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Loflin)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: Screen Savers
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 14:18:43 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/721.0 - McMinnville K12Net, McMinnville OR

You said that SHAREWARE had a screen saver and I was wondering what kind 
of computers it would work on.



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From: buckner@sendit.NoDak.edu (Janice Ileen Buckner)
Subject: Industrial Ed/ Technology
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:35:36 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network



Does anyone have any experience with industrial technology programs similar to
the Synergistics offerings?  Our junior high is thinking of using this
approach rather than the traditional in 7th and 8th grade industrial arts.

ANy information would be appreciated!

Jan Buckner
Technology Coordinator
Moorhead, Mn
From: Alfonso.Navarro@f19.n267.z1.fidonet.org (Alfonso Navarro)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: INTERNET
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 03:31:07 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:267/19 - QMS Connection, Queensbury NY

 > (this one is a hot prospect for you)
 > NYSERnet
 > 111 College Place
 > Room 3-211
 > Syracuse, NY.  13244
 > I would encourage you to contact this last address and see
 > if they can help you find a connection in the area that is
 > low cost or free.  I wish you were here.  We could connect
 > you through the Oklahoma Public School Computer Network
 > immediately.  Well... when you get on the internet, drop
 > me a line at JHARNED@AARDVARK.UCS.UOKNOR.EDU and I will
 > explain how you can sign on the local computer network
 > through INTERNET.
HI!!!  NYSERnet... That's the network our school goes through!  I could say that I have INTERNET access but it's limited to use during the day. More to the point, during any FREE TIME that I have B-)!!!  Actualy, this school that I work from now (a local one) does give Netmail access, so I'll drop you a line as a test, now that I THINK I know what I'm doing.  You'll probably get that first.
                    Thank you for the help!     Al



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From: Steve.Larson@p0.f10.n3402.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Larson)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: WINDOWS 3.1 AND COMMUNICA
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 23:38:47 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3402/10.0 - Westwood High Schoo, Ft McMurray AB

In a message <04 Jan 93  16:10:00> to <Kevin Mccluskey> about <Re: WINDOWS 3.1 AND COMMUNICA>,
Roger Baillie wrote:

 RB> I have used both versions as well, and prefer the Windows
 RB> version.  I think that many of us prefer older versions of software,
 RB> until we get  used to using the new ones.  I have written a number of
 RB> macros for ProWin  and it has made collecting of mail, as an example,
 RB> very easy.  I can  hace ProWin sign on to and collect my messages while
 RB> working on my word  processor.  I can also download files in the
 RB> background, while working on  something else.  I really enjoy using it.

I use Telix in the background with Windows and can do the same thing!
...for $49.00!    ($49.00 US, that is!)

To each his own, right?  ;-)

Regards,
Steve

... The subliminal message for today is  .

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From: Ron.Chartrand@f118.n244.z1.fidonet.org (Ron Chartrand)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: computers & education
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 10:56:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:244/118 - Renzo's Roost, Hamilton ON

Our school is using K-12 net which is a great service. We access it locally and for more information leave a message to Jerry Kiely, the sysop,who will help you out.


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From: Morrin.school@f49.n134.z1.fidonet.org (Morrin school)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: RE: Computer Literacy
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 19:28:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/49 - The Student Exchang, Calgary Alta

On 12-05-92, Gary Cressman wrote to Steve Larson:

>-------------------------------------
It was started mainly as an AppleWorks users 
group, but it now includes IBM and Mac. Jim Carlisle is the 
head guy. The club is called Teacher's Idea and Information 
Exchange P.O. Box 6229, Lincoln NE 68509, phone 402-483-
6987.  He will send you some information about the club.
>-------------------------------------
Sounds like an interesting and useful group. Is he a participant in the 
k12 net? It would be so much easier and faster if he were online with the 
board. 

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From: carnold@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (Christopher J. Arnold)
Subject: Re: Windows 3.1 and Commu
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Richmond)
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 21:58:35 GMT

	That's because Windows uses disk e as virtual memory.


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From: Steve.Larson@p0.f10.n3402.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Larson)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: This Echo
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 12:26:50 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3402/10.0 - Westwood High Schoo, Ft McMurray AB

In a message <30 Dec 92  13:25:41> to <All> about <scuse me if i'm dumb>,
Lisa Clark wrote:

 LC> what is this area all about? Please don't think i'm stupid but i just
 LC> can't figure it out. thnxs.

Lisa,
Haven't we communicated before?  :-)

Lisa, this message area fulfils two primary needs.

First, it allows teachers and students to discuss computer technology as it
is related to various courses of study.  For example, you may wish to
discuss how progamming is taught or how particular a software application is
used.  Perhaps even more importantly, questions about how computers may be
used in relation to OTHER courses (English, Mathematics, etc.) may be
addressed.   This particular topic (Curricula-related questions) is
probably of MOST interest to teachers but is NOT restricted to teachers.
It does, however, have an EDUCATIONAL focus.

Secondly, it allows people to ask questions of a technical nature such as
"How do I 'unzip' files?"  However, it is probably true that you would
receive better/faster responses to THESE types of questions in technically
designated message areas which are LOCAL to the user.  In my home town, for
example, we have a general city-wide chat area which connects about 18
BBS's and which allows people to send public mail to others as well as ask
for technical advice of a "general" nature.  In addition, we have a
similarly-connected purely "technoweenie" message area which is monitored by
most sysops and where people may ask for help with regard to computer-related
technical questions.

Hope this helps,
Steve                   (K12net Zone 1 Computer Literacy Moderator)

... Didn't pay my exorcism bill...just got repossesed!

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From: Roger.Baillie@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Roger Baillie)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: DESKTOP PUBLISHING PROJEC
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 19:24:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

BF>BF>hear me?  I'm trapped in this computer, please help me?  The only way 
BF>can get out of this computer is if you help me with my desktop publish
BF>project.  If you have any information please respond so I can be free 
BF>last. Thanks, Becky
BF>

Hi Becky,

        I would hate to see anyone trpped in a computer for the rest of 
their life.  Maybe I can help you out.  I'm rsponding from beautiful 
Prince Edward Island, Canada.  I teach senior high school computer 
literacy (and geometry) as well as work on a computer communications 
project for the Department of education for our province. 

        Prince Edward Island (PEI) is a small island province in the Gulf 
of Saint Lawrence on Canada's east coast, about 2000 miles north of you.

        Computer communications through bulletin board systems are a great 
way of meeting friends.  Through the job that I do for the Department of 
Ed. I have regisitered about 200 students to take part in projects, mainly 
penpals, here in Canada's Maritime provinces.  These kids have made many 
friends, and probably a few enemies.  When you are dealing with names 
only, it is difficult to determine someone's sex.  We have a had a few 
embarrassing situations when boys were asked if they had boyfriends.  It 
has worked wuite well however.  Keep using the computer to talk with 
people, you may be surprised at what you can learn.

         


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From: protocom@DMI.USherb.CA (protocom-Laurent turcotte)
Subject: Teaching kids/Adults computer concepts
Organization: Universite de Sherbrooke -- Dept. d'Informatique
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:30:38 GMT

I'm looking for ANY info about TEACHING OOP (object oriented concepts)
to kids or adults... 
                                                                                
        -It could be done using smalltalk and turtle graphics...                
                                                                                
        -It could be done using hyperCard like programs...                     
                                                                                
        -It could be done with a book of some kind...                       
                                                                                
        -Anything (the sky is the limit)                                     
                                                                           
I'm thinking of doing a University school project on this                  
                                                                            
P.S. ANY FEED BACK ON THIS IS DEEPLY APPRECIATED NO MATER HOW SMALL        

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consulting company:Protocom              Is there anybody out there.....
From: Carol.Nauss@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Nauss)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: COMPUTER EDUCATION
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 20:39:51 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

Ron...:)  In our area, Nova Scotia, computers are to be integrated at the 
elementary level that is grades primary to grade 6.  Above that grades 7 to 
12 there are specific courses that are in place for students.  We also 
participate in on-line exchanges of pen pal letters and stories and the 
teachers exchange ideas, suggestions and general help.  Hope this helps you 
with youor assignment.  Carol Nauss

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From: Bob.Coulter@f3.n157.z1.fidonet.org (Bob Coulter)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: computers & education
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 09:01:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:157/3 - Nerd's Nook, Rocky River OH

Thanks for the reply.  We would like to have Local Area Networking and eventually incorporate Wide Area Networking.  The superintendent would like to have 4 or 5 computers in each classroom.  All the tools that you indicated would be great and they will be mentioned in my report.  Have you heard of the K-12 Net?  If so I would like some information concerning it.  It would be great to be able to have the students using the modem to talk to other students all over the world.  I remember getting some informa
tion concerning a network, I think by General Electric, where a school can sign up for such a service.  Any information would be appreciated.  Thanks again.


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From: David.Rahfeldt@p0.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (David Rahfeldt)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: programming
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 07:39:24 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.0 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

LOGO had its day here in the USA and now seems to be kinda "lost in 
the ozone again"
 
IT is a good and fun language to use as its graphics primitives allow 
you to make graphics without having to do a lot of extra programming 
work...
 
You can however do the same things with graphics libraries in C++ 
and I would recommend that you start playing with C++ as thei is the 
standard language everyone is using now for professional programming 
and for graphics...
 
Sorry I could not help more...
 
David Rahfeldt



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From: Carol.Nauss@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Nauss)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: COMPUTER SYSTEM STATISTICS
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 22:08:37 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

In our school mainly commodore 64's with a couple of IBM compatibles.  Not 
on the upper edge to be sure.  Other schools in the system are using IBM 
compatibles, Apple II, and Macs.
Carol

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From: Art.Brown@p0.f725.n322.z1.fidonet.org (Art Brown)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: buyers beware!
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 21:55:14 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:322/725.0 - School Forum, Norton MA

  Tandy Corp. sells a couple of computers that do NOT come equipped 
with a volume control and joystick ports! Specifically, model 4825SX with a 486 microprocessor. If anyone out there happens to have one, how did you solve the problem with adjusting the volume or disabling it? This to me is very inconvenient, and I don't understand why they made them this way. I heard that the Sound Blaster comes equipped with a volume control and joystick port, but it does not disable the PC speaker. Please respond to any information you can offer.
                                                                 ART



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From: Carol.Nauss@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Nauss)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: COMPUTERS & EDUCATION
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 22:06:36 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

Bob...:)  First put computers in every classroom, network them if you want 
but ensure that each class has computers, more than one if possible.  Choose 
the basic programs you are going to use ie spread sheet, database, word pro, 
graphics so that all are using the same.  Then find yourself or design an 
integrated computer package with work jobs, ideas etc. for the teachers to 
use so that students progress in a logical and sensible progression.  Help 
your teachers with easy to use, instructions and ready to use work cards, 
exercises etc.  Work on touch typing skills and finally give each class a 
modem and a phone line so they can communicate with others.  List and have 
available other programs that will be appropriate for students at a 
particular level as well how they can be integrated into their classes.  Carol
Oh yes, be prepared to spend time, a lot of time, getting your teachers 
familiar with the applications and how to use the computers without fear.  C.

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From: Bob.Coulter@f3.n157.z1.fidonet.org (Bob Coulter)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Simms
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 09:58:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:157/3 - Nerd's Nook, Rocky River OH

My son, who is in the Navy and stationed in Panama, will be sending me an additional 4 megs of ram for my computer as a Christmas gift.  Due to his nature it will be late.  He indicated that the chips where 80ns but I have 70ns chips installed.  From what I have read I will not be able to use these chips, is this correct?


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From: Syd.Sellers@f928.n153.z1.fidonet.org (Syd Sellers)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: New Version of Hermes for the MAC!!!
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 11:24:55 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:153/928 - The Hogs Hollow BBS, Tsawwassen BC

Just a note to let all you Mac Sysops out there know that there has been a new 
version of Hermes just releasted...It's now up to version 2.1.1

You can Freq "Hermes" from here if you like... and the docs are HermDocs

Have fun..


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From: Richard.Marchand@f2.n3402.z1.fidonet.org (Richard Marchand)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.art
Subject: Art Programs
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 17:56:04 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3402/2 - Father Mercredi Hig, Ft McMurray AB

I haven't used many with the PC, besides Deluxe Paint II Enhanced, I'm using Deluxe Paint IV on my Amiga.  I have also seen Deluxe Paint Animation on the IBM, but I heard that it lacks high resolution modes that are found on Deluxe Paint II Enhanced on the PC.  So it's sort of a tradeoff, if you want to strictly draw the best bet of the two would obviously be Deluxe Paint II Enhanced, but it lacks animation features.  I'm not sure but there may be a new version which allows for highres painting and lowres 


animation in package or maybe even hires animation.  Like I said I'm not to sure.  One plus with the Deluxe Paint series is that they load IFF format pictures which are the Amiga standard, so there would no need to find a conversion program toi support your paint program.  You could merely download an Amiga picture and instantly load it.  As far as I have seen there are not many differences between the IBM and Amiga versions of Deluxe Paint and Deluxe Paint would be my first choice.


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From: Jane.Whitten@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Jane Whitten)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.art
Subject: Re: LETTER
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 22:53:50 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

We have always enjoyed Kevin Burkes music and especially his album 
"Portland". It seems that there are more Celtic Musicians over that way  than 
there are over on this coast. Kevin was (is) over there for a long time with 
Michal playing. Triona stayed over here and played in North carolina in a 
group called "Touchstone" and they carried on the tradition of "The Bothy 
Band", well sort of. If you are not familiar with this stuff and you would 
like to hear it please drop me a message with your address and I will forward 
you a tape of it. Back to Knitting machines. You must program in the design 
that you wish to knit. It is a matter of putting blocks onto a grid. We also 
do it on the computer for note paper and letter head. what type of computer 
do you have or have acess to? We are on a Mac so if you don't have one you 
wouldn't be able to read our file unless you have a file exchanger.The 
knitting machine that we use for this sort of thing costs about $1500 CAN to 
buy. It is all computerso that anything that is programed in can be savedto 
disk. We also work with a "programmed pattern device" which allows us to type 
in designs and see them on the TV screen as we do the work. All very 
facinating but not enough time to use it to the utmost. Do you play the 
Celtic music at all?
Keep in touch!
Jane Whitten, Bridgewater, N.S.

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From: John.White@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (John White)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.art
Subject: Re: LETTER
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 12:32:51 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

Hi Jason ,
I have to make this short I got about 30 or 20 presents.one of them was a 
pair of cross country skies Right more next time Sarah

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From: Cameron.Neblett@f80.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Cameron Neblett)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.art
Subject: RE: Hello
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:43:53 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/80 - Auburn Ed-Net, Auburn WA

Dear Kenten,
     I don't read that many comics, but I have a lot of friends who are signed up on this system who do.  I'll give you one: David Johnson.  You might want to read some of his letters in Elementary Chat.  Anyway, I have created a bunch of different characters like Merble Urble, a king of  a planet's empire far, far, away, Eeple, his friendly magician, Poof, Eeple's miniature assistant, and Hinykor, Merble's Chief Engineer.  They are interesting characters and I like drawing them all the time.  Could you wr


ite me back on some of your ideas?  Anyway, I don't have much more to say so, Wait!  I changed my mind, (Sorry!) If you want to write me then write me at: Ultra Systems Plus, Art Divisions, c/o Cameron Neblett 5409 29th St. N.E. Tacoma, Wa. 98422.  There I can read your letters on ideas and mail you back some possible pictures if you give me your address.  If you do, I will mail some letters to you with pictures of Merble, Eeple and Hinykor.  Anyway, I don't have much time left so now, GOODBYE!

                                   Your Friend,
                                   Cameron Neblett

P.S. Why don't we also become Postal Pen Pals.


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From: David.Rahfeldt@p0.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (David Rahfeldt)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.art
Subject: Re: LETTER
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 06:52:52 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.0 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

YAH for Celtic traditions !!!!
 
Portland has many many folkd who like Celtic Music....
 
Can you then make most anything with your computer knitting machine?
 
Hummmmm....
 
Do you have good programs to create patterns then by computer?
 
How expensive is such a machine?
 
David Rahfeldt



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From: David.Rahfeldt@p0.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (David Rahfeldt)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.art
Subject: Re: I wonder...
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 06:50:30 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.0 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

So how is New Zealand now? Weather climate and political climate?
 
Economy?
 
Can one make a living in New Zealand by teaching art?
 
What kind of art do you do?
 
I am sculptor - amateur
 
DWR



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