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From: jrosenz1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Joshua Rosenzweig)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Elvis Costello
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:17:00 GMT
Organization: Swarthmore College

In article <Eey30xi00iV3A5gmFM@andrew.cmu.edu>, Chris Ferrall
<ferrall+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> 
> Excerpts from netnews.alt.music.alternative: 3-Nov-92 Elvis Costello by
> wd208cs@opie.bgsu.edu 
> > "What's so funny 'bout peace, love, and understanding?"
> >                                   -Elvis
> 
> Not to be a stickler, but E.C. didn't write that.  "What's so funny..."
> is a Dave Edmunds song.  
> 
> It was a little easier to find fans when I was in college - I spent one
> WHOLE summer vacation listening to Imperial Bedroom.  Don't cry too
> much for him, though.  I just saw Graham Parker with a crowd of about
> 200 people who knew none of his new material (including me).  Parker was
> underappreciated much more than Delbert/Elvis.
> 
> 
> 

Do you really mean Delbert McClinton?  Or do you really mean Elvis
Costello's real name, which he's used on some of his recent albums? 
Because, if you mean the latter, it's not Delbert, but Declan.  (Not to be
a stickler...)

BTW, no flame intended above.  And I totally agree with your main
assertion, Graham Parker was (continues to be...) *way* less appreciated
than Elvis.


jdr
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Joshua Rosenzweig
Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA  19081

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From: reeder@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Gregory L Reeder)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Name that Tune
Date: 10 Nov 1992 22:20:00 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu
Summary: Name that Tune
Keywords: Name that Tune

Could anyone tell me the name and artist of this song. I believe it's recent
The chorus goes:

	I'm watching the sky
	I'm waiting on the rain
	I'm waiting for the frogs to fall
		Down on me

						Thanx
							- Greg
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From: kak1@cypress31.cray.com (Kevin Kramer)
Subject: Re: Boiled in Lead
Originator: kak1@cypress31
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:56:58 CST


In article <nudnik.720985752@camelot>, nudnik@camelot.bradley.edu (Steven Parks) writes:
> could someone describe Boiled in Lead's sound/style?
> I'll be home in Minneapolis for Thanksgiving, and the Drovers (celtic rock)
> will be playing FIrst Avenue with BiL, but I don't know what they sound
> like...
> While I'm at it, does anyone want to go with me?  =)
> --

They are sort of Irish Folk Rock sort of.  They are hard to describe
without giving the wrong impression.  They are better to see in
a less electronic environment (than First Ave)  They are much better
when they are playing 100% accoustical instruments.  I would still
suggest that you go see them.  I went to one of their concerts on
a whim and found it to be one of the most entertaining bands that
I have seen live.  I would go with you, but I am leaving town for
the bug meal.

Kevin

I know that was not a good description, but I don't know what else to say!
Xref: sparky alt.music.alternative:15318 alt.rave:4851
From: ctuel@zeus.calpoly.edu (Cliff Tuel)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,alt.rave
Subject: Re: The ORB's tour...
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:08:14 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo

[ Cross-posted to alt.rave ]

watpod83@alfred.carleton.ca (Robert Telka) said...
|Any word on The ORB touring in North Amercia?  I'm just dying to see
|them, well, almost dying.

February '93.

|Also, dates and locations would be a big bonus as well!

As of this Monday, no dates had been set yet.

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From: saeed@watson.ibm.com (Saeed Jaffer)
Subject: Rise Robots Rise
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:14:13 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

Alright, now I remember their name.  A few nights ago I saw their video on
The Box and they didn't seem half-bad.  Anybody familiar with them and
their music?  Opinions?  Anybody have their recent/new album?  What's it
like?  Is it worth anything?


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From: mole@cellar.org (Jim Hostetter)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: RE: Produced by Butch Vig
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:25:39 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

plowenstein@vax.clarku.edu writes:

> urge overkill- (ot sure of name, but it is a double album)

Their second Touch and Go album, _Americruiser_, was produced by Butch Vig. 
And, while we're at it, Die Kreuzen's _Century_Days_ was produced by Butch
also.

________________________________________________________

  Jim Hostetter  mole@cellar.uucp or uunet!cellar!mole
      Philadelphia, PA   Cellar BBS:  215 336 9503
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From: fernee@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Mark Fernee)
Subject: Re: Definition of alternative, please
Organization: Physics Dept. The University of Queensland
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 04:21:37 GMT

In article <QexJfXC00WBOM2uL00@andrew.cmu.edu>, Karl Anthony Smeltzer <ks5z+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
|> 
|> Why the hell are we classifying one of the dumbest words there is to
|> describe music.  Alternative as a word sucks.  It is the dumbest
|> classification, doesn't deserve to be used, and now, you're making a
|> definition for the use of it.
|> Fact is, this bboard doesn't deserve to have the word alternative in it,
|> but that's life.  But just because we are classified as this by the
|> ignorant world, that doesn't mean we have to accept it and use it. 
|> Alternative basically classifies:  industrial, techno, thrash, punk,
|> funk, ska, house, rap, reggae, classical, avant-garde, and the list can
|> go on.  It's crazy to classify all these various types as one, worse yet
|> to accept this abysmal term.
|> 
|> Disgusted.
|> 
|> --ks5z@andrew.cmu.edu

Its good enough to allow me to find one of the few music groups
that post about bands and music that I like. That sounds useful to me.

I don't listen to Top 40 music or commercial radio as they don't 
play the music I like. As soon as they do, then I will probably 
change, although I hate radio commercials and set play lists and
groomed announcers feeding you corporate propaganda, telling you
what is fashion this week. Where to go, and what you must do
to be cool/hot/rad ...... crap crap crap......

Alternative means an alternative to the norm. It describes free
thought. A style not dictated my current corporate trends and
commercial guidance. Alternative applies to anything which allows
you a choice, whether it be food, lifestyle, music, social life,...

It is something different to every different person, but still
it suffices to be used as a generalisation due to its broad 
charter.

Its all subjective, and this is just my current oppinion.


Mark.

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From: houk@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joshua Houk)
Subject: Re: NIRVANA SONG
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:37:26 GMT

In article <1835.66.uupcb@uttsbbs.uucp> neil.black@uttsbbs.uucp (Neil Black) writes:
>A local fm station recently played a Nirvana concert and there was one
>song I've never heard before.  Does anyone know what it is called?  The
>beginning lyrics are something like this:
>
>Mom and Dad went to a show
>Dropped me off to grab some Joe  <---????
>
>The chorus is:
>
>Never take me home (3)
>I wanna be alone
>
>My guess is that the song is called Never Take Me Home, but I'm not
>sure.  Anyone know?

Um... it's called "Sliver", and the chorus actually goes...

Granma take me home (or Grandma, or whatever...)


Very, very good song that I'm still not ashamed to say I love! Really!!

Joshua Houk
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Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Date: Sun,  8 Nov 1992 21:56:58 -0500 
From: Joshua John Buergel <jbbb+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Which Beautiful South CD should I buy?
	<1992Nov6.192712.14159@math.ucla.edu>

>I disagree. I think they do write wonderful pop lyrics. The fact that
>the lyrics are 'strange' is what makes this group so original.
>For example
> 
>'I love you from the bottom of my pencil-case' (don't remember which song
>- is it 'Jennifer'?)
> 
>is a refreshing change from what 99% of other artists would write.

"Song For Whoever", the lead track from _Welcome To..._.  The fact that
the lyrics that The Beautiful South write are different from what 99% of
other artists' lyrics is what makes them 'not pop' to me.  To me, a
typical pop song will write about fairly lightweight subjects, and the
Beautiful South doesn't write lightweight songs.  Or, if the choose a
lightweight subject, they write about it in a very different way.  For
the ultimate in pop lyrics, you can look at any of the various
California power pop type bands (Big Drill Car, ALL, Green Day).  The
Beautiful South often tackle the same subject, but with a much more
jaded look.  They do not write pop lyrics, in my view.

Joshua Buergel - allroy+@cmu.edu - jbbb@andrew.cmu.edu
From: tofteber1822@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Pearl Jam.
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:27:40 -0600
Summary: PJ CD wanted
Reply-To: Tofteber1822
Followup-To: poster
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <00963457.39B59900@vms.csd.mu.edu>, 2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>>Watching an acoustic set of Pearl Jam last Sunday
>>I heard Eddie Vedder say:
>>"It's like full circle you know,
>>my parents said I was conceived
>>to Neil Young"
>>They opened for Young and Elton John et. al.
>>Thought this was funny.
>>Anyways, what the hell did Vedder do
>>before fronting Jeff Ament and crew?
>>Also, has anybody else out there heard
>>them play "daughter" ??????
>>
> -Jared                   
> 
> I interviewed Eddie shortly after (like 3 days or so) 10 was released...He said that prior to
> hooking up with Stone and Jeff...he was a surfer...that's it...he said he would
> surf all day and work 3rd shift or something like that...he also said that he
> was in a few local hardcore bands (or something to that effect)...he said it
> was amazing to go into record stores and see Ten on the shelves without having
> to put it there himself (as any local band would have to)...He claimed to be
> amazed by the publicity work on Epic on their behalf...(remember..this was
> before video rotation, massive sales, and all that)...He also told me that
> Once was his favorite song on the record...(why..I dunno.)...and, as you may
> all know, he was recommended to Jeff and Stone by Jack Irons (former drummer
> for the RHCP)...Irons was asked to be in the band but declined because he was
> already tied up with 11, his new band...but he told J & S about Eddie...they
> sent a tape with the music for Once, Alive, and something else that I cant
> recall...Eddie wrote lyrics and sang over their music...they liked it..and
> Mookie Blaylock was born...(soon to become PJ)...
> 
> So...that's what I know...
> 
> Now..a question...
> 
> I have a copy of the Mookie Blaylock demos...(on CD)...the last 2 tunes however
> are not Pearl Jam demos...one is a cover of Argent's Hold Your Head Up which
> obviously has Andy Wood on vox, the other is called Mystery...which is ironic
> and appropriate cuz Ill be damned if I can identify the vocalist...sounds like
> Eddie in spots...then it sounds nothing like him..but it IS the same voice...
> 
> And a note...this CD is not the complete demo tape because Cameron Crowe
> (producer of Singles mentions that he heard the demo version of State of Love
> and Trust on the set of Singles...it was a Blaylock demo which Jeff or Stone
> played for him..this song is not on my cd)
> 
> Oh yea...Eddie and I also talked about the making of Singles...(the movie was
> shot a while before 10 was released...Crowe had serious editing problems, but
> that is all covered in the Rolling Stone article by Crowe)
> 
> well...I will post the track listing for the Demos cd in my next post...
> HOW CAN I GET A COPY OF THE BLAYLOCK/PJ/MLB CD YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT?
 
> Later.
> -justin
>   Send lawyers, guns, and money...
>    The shit has hit the fan.
>                -Warren Zevon-
>
From: dhylton@linus.umd.edu (Deborah Hylton)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: 10,000 Maniacs Concert date
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:01:02 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park


		10,000 Maniacs will be at George Mason University
		on Tuesday 17th, November.  Tickets were $22.50
		I think they are sold out.............I got the
		last one :))


Deborah


Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: Michel Mathieu <mjm@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: The The
Reply-To: mjm@zooid.UUCP (Michel Mathieu)
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Distribution: all
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 05:16:55 GMT


Well.  Went down to both stores here that said there was a new The The
release out for The The November 10. Both said its been delayed till
January 18.  Anyone have any idea why?
Is it out yet in the UK?  I think its called Dusk.

Michel.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:18:38 EST
From: <MNS103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: LOU REED/VU

ANYONE INTERESTED IN STARTING A LOU REED OR VELVET UNDERGROUND INFORMATION
NETWORK (OR KNOW OF AN EXISTING ONE)?

"MY SHIT IS BETTER THAN OTHER PEOPLE'S DIAMONDS." - L.R.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: homulka@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Thomas Homulka)
Subject: Re: What WIRE album is...
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:23:23 GMT

"Eardrum Buzz" is taken from the album "IBTABA" (It's Beginning to and Back
Again).  There are two versions on it -- the album version and the 12"
version.  I bought the cassette (domestic on Enigma) a while back only to
find that the last three tracks ("Eardrum Buzz (12" version)", "The Offer"
and "In Vivo") were missing from the cassette even though they were listed on
the cassette sleeve and the serial numbers matched up and all.  I returned the
cassette, and found a used copy on Mute (import).  This one had all the tracks
on it.   Has anyone else seen this on the domestic cassette copy?
From: climiepd@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Delbert ( Peter Climie ))
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: The Fall stuff
Keywords: Stimmerung
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:04:01 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

Has anyone got the 'Indie' compilation called 'Volume 4', its the one with
a thick booklet and CD.

There is a new Fall recording on it. What's it like ? Will it come out
someplace else? And what about the NME LP, is it out with Legend of Xanadu
by the Fall yet ?

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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,alt.music.progressive
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:58:35 -0500 
From: Brandon Chin <bj+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: kiss me song info

>Can anyone tell me if they have heard of the song "kiss me"
>which is by Steven Tin Tin Duffy? ...

Ah yes, back in the days when this genre of music was all that I hunted
for...but I digress.

Yes, the single exists in at least two forms.  I'm pretty sure the first
is domestic (was, anyway).  Its got a violet-dark-pinkish sleeve.  I
have this on 12" at home so I don't know the catalog number, or any
specifics.  The other form is in an import double-set 12" (two 12"s in
one sleeve).  Its got a 12" of "Kiss me" and a 12" of "Hold It" (which
is another good song btw).  I'm pretty sure the Kiss Me 12" was bonus,
so you'd probably have to look for the Hold It Import 12" and hope its
got the Kiss Me 12" inside as well.  (I've got this one at home too.) 
No, I'm not about to let go of these classics, but I can tell you that
they should be pretty hard to find these days.  I was looking for these
songs back about 4 years ago and it was tough.  I think they were out of
print then as well.  Good luck though.

FYI: I bought the Hold It/Kiss Me 12" at a place called Record Runner on
Jones St. in NYC.  Don't know if they do mail order or not.

Happy hunting!
-bj
From: x3460afe@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: a cow for magic beans.....
Date: 9 Nov 92 10:53:24 GMT
Reply-To: x3460afe@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: University of Florida - CIRCA


    from the happy-go-licky desk of caroliner rainbow:

well, i realize that the pavement 'slay tracks' single may be a little too
hard to find, so let's see what i can do.....
well, i will trade either the 1st pressing of the nirvana 'sliver/dive'
single, or the very hard to find smashing pumpkins 'i am one/not worth
asking' (limited potential, 1990) for:

lowlife: 'rain' ep, or 'swirl, it swings' ep or

severed heads: 'clifford darling, please don't live in the past' lp or
               
swans: 'public castration is a good idea' ep or

the wedding present: 'tommy' lp or 'george best' lp and of course the

pavement: 'slay tracks' single......

well, any takers???

          -   caroliner gangster button press churchmouse doorway.
From: Steve.Varty@newcastle.ac.uk (Steve Varty)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: stiff little fingers: what to get
Date: 9 Nov 92 10:19:33 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

sepstei1@cc.swarthmore.edu (stephen epstein) writes:

>like "Inflammable Material", their first album, the best, since it has

True.

>Their final studio album "Now Then...(or was it Now This?...) is the

Except that the new line up has released an album.

Steve.


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From: kotsines@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (KOTSINES  THOMAS ANT)
Subject: erasure dates
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: world, local
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:50:07 GMT

Does anyone have ANY Erasure concert dates ANYWHERE?  (That aren't sold out) If
so please e-mail VIP, dont post it as I won't care by the time I read it.

thanks!
[/]
From: mcsdc1gm@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Levellers -- Any fans?
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:35:36 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <schuck.720837501@sfu.ca>, schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck) writes:
> I saw the Levellers last night in the Town Pump in Vancouver.
> 
> What a great band. They were an incredibly energetic band.
> 
> They play a form of Celtic rock -- a local critic summarized it as the
> Pogues meet the Clash. They reminded me of the Oyster Band in terms of
> style and instrumentation.
> 
> They have a fiddle player and mandolin player as well as drummer ,
> bassist, and guitarist vocalist.
> 
> The opening act was The Stoaters, a local Celtic Rock band.
> They opened for The Oyster Band when they were here this year at the
> Commodore.
> 
> They do an incredibly funny Celtic Rock version of Black Sabbaths Iron Man.
> 
> Anybody else seen them?


          YES THEY'RE PRETTY POPULAR IN THE UK DOING SELL OUT TOURS
          EVERY TIME TTHEIR ON THE ROAD.AND YES THEY ARE BLOODY
          EXCELLENT.THEY'VE GOT TWO ALBUMS OUT AS FAR AS I KNOW

             A WEAPON CALLED THE WORD

             LEVELLING THE LAND

          ALSO VARIOUS OTHER SINGLES AS WELL


        


 
> ============================================================================
 
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From: ajw@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.j.whitman)
Subject: Re: ROCK FOR WOOD (was Alternative/Indie Compilation Suggestions)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:36:29 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.misc

In article <1992Nov11.050840.19966@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> lizzit@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Lizzette Xixxo) writes:
>Rock for Wood -- Boston Bands Preserve Walden Woods
>			CD on Monolyth label 

(paragrpaph deleted)

>Artists involved include Braindance, Robin Lane, Cobalt 60, 
                                      ^^^^^ ^^^^
>Vision Thing, Sleepy Hollow, Powerman 5000, Electrichka, 
>Angelo Patraglia & Johnny Cunningham, Sidewalk Gallery, Mother, 
                    ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
>Stompbox, the Uninvitied, Derangers, and Tree.  All told, more 
>than 60 artists and crew contributed their talents.

Amazing.  I was just about to post one of those dreadful "Whatever 
happened to . . ." requests, and the two people I want to know about
show up in the same concert announcement.

So . . . does Robin Lane currently have a recording contract?  And
does she still write wonderful power pop songs like she did when
she was with The Chartbusters?

And has Johnny Cunningham finally realized the error of his ways
and renounced his involvement with the dreadful Raindogs?  Who is
Angelo Patraglia?  And does his music allow room for Cunningham's
wonderfully schizoid Celtic fiddle?

Thanks.

Andy Whitman
AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus, Ohio
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ajw@cblpn.att.com
From: 6anthony_m@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: where does punk and hardcore fit into this
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:48:44 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <BxHG15.9Gy@sdf.lonestar.org>, 6o25@sdf.lonestar.org (Stephen M. Jones) writes:
> (Juergen Heerdegen) writes:
>>Exactly, where does one speak about punk and hardcore?  Is this the proper 
>>avenue for the exchange of ideas concerning the music I enjoy the most,
>>"hardcore?"  I casually glance through some of the subject headings on most
>>of these postings and all I can say is, "Alternative, Schmalternative."
>>What up with this?
> 
> there is no place in this world for punk rock man... that crap... who
> needs it.  GO out and buy the new Moby cd and dance.. thats where its
> at man.

Is that where its at man?  That shit puts your brain to sleep, and makes
me vomit.  All machine no humanity, we need music with some life to it.
Go pick up the new Sex Pistols "Kiss This" album, and slamdance, thats where 
its at.

BTW: Anyone get that album?  Are they songs new versions? Or have they been
released already...




> 
> -- 
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