From: msg7038@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michalis  Syrimis)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Re: writings on mount 5-dactylos
Date: 28 Jan 93 08:51:39 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

bse@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Besime Erin) responding to a posting of mine about
the flags and messages on mountain Pentadaktylos, she sais:

>>
>>people who have never known northern Cyprus to realize that it is
>>worth struggling for its liberation. 

>WHO or WHAT ARE YOU LIBERATING FROM WHAT ????

There are not many enslaved,Greek Cypriots people leaving in the north nowadays.
Despite the III Vienna Agreement, on August 30 1975, which stated that the Greek
Cypriots leaving in the north were free to stay and they they would be given
every help to lead a normal life (education, religion), the Turkish occupation
forces and Denktash's regime forced all, but a few Greek Cypriots (about 300
today), to leave their homes in the north and flee to the south.

So the answer to the first part of your question is: Liberation of the
people now leaving at Karpasia (Yiallousa, Ayia Triada and Rizokarpaso) 
under APARHEIT conditions.

Now, to the second part "WHAT and from WHAT" will we be liberating:
North Cyprus from the Turkish Occupation Forces.  

>The Turkish Cypriots mostly occupy the North not some aliens. 
>We are people of Cyprus as much as anybody else is and the land
>we now have may not be propotional to our population nor may we have originally
>owned it all but we did own some of it and we did leave some lands in the
>South as well on which you are sitting on so don't you go around talking
>you are going to liberate the lands who totally belong to you because
>they DON'T totally belong to you. 

As you say Turkish Cypriots OCCUPY the north, which they have not originally
owned. You do not own it now either.  Occupation DOES NOT give 
OWENERSHIP RIGHTS, right? particularly if it is implemented by military
force.

I have never said that Turkish Cypriots did not own property in the north or the
south,neither have I ever claimed that they should be deprived from any property
for which they have legal ownership rights in the north or the south. Thinking 
in the same way one has to recognize the ownership right to the Greek Cypriots.
Thus  properties in the north which are now "occupied" by Turkish Cypriots
should be returned to their "original" owners, in a solution of the problem.

By the way, can you give us a hint on the number of aliens in the northern
part of Cyprus today?  Please include settlers from Turkey who have been 
"naturalized" Cypriots in any figures you give us. 

>Note: If any of you has numbers that show specifically and CORRECTLY 
>      what percentage of North Cyprus(or south also for that matter)
>      is/was owned by Turkish and Greek Cypriots, I would like to see them
>      again. I know it has been posted on this net before.
>>

If you are interested in areas in acres, the best source would be 
the real estate registry of the government of Cyprus, they have very good 
records, courtesy of the British colonists. What I think I have would
be number of Greek Turkish and mixed villages and maybe their populations.

>>So, they only thing left to say is: GOOD JOB thanks for the service.

>That service is as a result of the service you did to us, the Turkish
>CYPRIOTS.

>Besime Erin.
Looking forward to hearing from you again.
>>
>>-- 
>>Michalis Syrimis
>>University of Illinois
>>Urbana-Champaign
>>

-- 
Michalis Syrimis
University of Illinois
Urbana-Champaign
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