From: bodom@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brian Odom)
Subject: Re: New member! FB & Sheng Long
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:01:22 GMT

In <93024.19501532GPACZ@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> <32GPACZ@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:

>This is my first posting with this group, and after reading all the messages I
>think it's one of the cooler ones around. I have two questions:

>1.  What exactly is the FB block that everyone is talking about? Is it for
>Dhalsim? I always use him and I'm good at SF2, but I get my clock cleaned when
>I play TCE. It seems everyone's been made more powerful except him. Any advice
>on fighting styles for D would be appreciated.

I haven't heard anything about a fireball block, but there is such a thing as
a FB trap.  It's best done while be performed by Ryu.  His fast fireballs will
keep you pinned in a corner.  If Ryu throws a slow FB while you're in the
corner and Ryu is at medium distance from you, if Ryu throws a fast one, you
must block it of get hit.  If the player attempts to jump over the FB, then
all Ryu has to do is DP (dragon punch).  You are just stuck in the corner if
executed properly.  His recovery time after throwing a FB is so small.

Dhalsim, IMHO, sucks on Classic and the new HF.  Dhalsim is a GOD in CE.  I
think differently from you, because I think he was improved.  Mainly the
ability to dive at any point in the air AND the quickness of his dives made
him deceptive.  His limbs are still long and he doesn't move as slowly as 
before.  

You are reading the wrong newsgroup, bud.  A while ago, there was much chaos
on this newsgroup because at one point about 25-30% of the posts were NOT about
SF2 and SF2 was the only talked about subject on the newsgroup.  I suggest you
read alt.games.sf2 if you can.  If you can't read it, then telnet 152.2.22.80
and create an account with laUNChpad and read it.  It provides beginning, but
mostly advanced strategies.

You seem to be a fellow Dhalsim player and I'll send you the strategy guide 
that I wrote a while back.  Everything you wanted to know about Dhalsim is
in this guide.  It's in 3 parts, and it goes into detail.  I am the resident
Dhalsim master on campus and on the newsgroup, so don't be afraid to send me
mail concerning Dhalsim.

>2. Who is this Sheng Long guy that Ryu is so fond of? Is he a character you can
>play/fight against in SF? Any relation to the Lizard in MK?

If you read alt.games.sf2, you'll know that this is old hat.  Sheng Long is NOT
a character you can play/fight against.  You will get flamed HEAVILY if you
even bring this up on alt.games.sf2, so don't waste bandwidth.  See, there is
the nagazine called EGM (Electronic Gaming Monthly) and they published a method
of how to get to Sheng Long.  (It was the April 1992 issue).  In there is this
hacked picture which looks seemingly realistic.  At the bottom, there is a
"method" and acknowledgments from where the information came from.  At the
bottom of the page, it says (and I quote) "from W. A. Stokins from Fuldigen,HA"
Now use your common sense.  There is only one state that begins with the 
letter H (Hawaii), but it's abbreviated HI.  If you decode the quote, it will
say "Was two kens, fooled again, HA!".  In the June issue (I think), after
receiving enormous amounts of mail, EGM admitted that it was an April Fools
joke.  Many newbies have seen that issue but have not seen the issue where EGM
admits to the Sheng Long claim as being a joke.
Sheng Long is just a translation error.  Let me break this down for you.
(*note* I am not chinese or japanese, (I'm black), but these are what comes
from the Asians on the sf2 newsgroup).

Sheng Long (chinese) "sheng" is dragon and "long" is punch
Shou-Ryu-Ken (japanese) "shou" rising, "ryu" dragon, "ken" punch
(commonly pronounced as all-you-can)
so there you have it.
Ryu is bragging about the power of his DP (dragon punch) and you must be
able to defeat it to stand a chance.  (Of course, Ken has the power of 
Sheng Long, too, but doesn't brag about it)

Because of the misinterpretation and mistranslation of Sheng Long (and EGM),
many people thought that for a long time that Sheng Long, although no one has
ever REALLY seen it.  (Rumors were flying that "I know a friend who knows a
friend, who can get to Sheng Long and I saw him with my owns eyes...")
People on the newsgroup actually did ROM tests on the chips inside SF2 and
confirmed that Sheng Long indeed does NOT exist.  With these Sheng Long rumors
flying around, the creators of MK decided, "hmmmmm.  We'll put a secret
character in our game FOR REAL"  ROM tests have been done and Reptile has 
been confirmed to exist, although no one yet knows the exact method to get
to him.
 
>I know these two topics have probably been talked about to death in weeks past,
>but like I said, this is my first time to this group. So, send me some E-mail
>or make a posting, and thanks in advance.

Yeah, they were talked to death, reincarnated, and talked to death again.
I tried to explain everything to you.  Well, good luck and kick some SF2 butt!

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