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From: idas@sedona.intel.com (Indraneel Das~)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: H-4 HELP REQUESTED
Date: 18 Nov 92 23:43:04 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation
Originator: idas@cholla



Hello!

I would appreciate any help to clear up my confusion....

my wife is in the US with me right now, and our papers for H1/H4 were
filed together on 15 Sept. My H-1 came through a few days back, while her
H-4 hasn't....my understanding is that the H-4 takes upto 160days to
process(acc to INS).

My wife needs to be in India to complete her studies there...
I have been told that if she steps out of this country, the H-4 current process
gets nullified, and has to be restarted! Furthermore, if she's refused an H-4
in India, she can't come back!!

Has any of the netters been through the H-4 process recently in Delhi/some other 
place in India? How is the scene?


 I'll appreciate any help ...please email me at idas@sedona.intel.com

Thanks!
-Indraneel Das
_________________________________________________________________________
Indraneel Das
Intel Corporation

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: rajain@scotty.ecs.umass.edu (Rajat Jain)
Subject: Re: Latha Mangasker
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:38:26 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.214442.8371@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>, godbole@milano.berkeley.edu (Dattaprabodh Godbole) writes:
|> In article <3165@bsu-cs.bsu.edu> shirona@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (for a safer planet) writes:
|> >Okey guys,
|> >be real. is the legendary singer Latha Mangesker dead or not ? Please let me
|>                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  
|> >know because I am a *BIG* fan of her. It will be very sad for me to hear that
|> >she is dead but if she is not dead I am going to *KILL* all you guys who
|> >posted the wrong news. yes each and everyone who is resposinble.
|> 
|> As far as I know, she was alive on Tuesday 17th Nov. 92.
|> 
|> And BTW, the currect way to spell her name is Lata Mangeshakar.
                ^^^^^^^

	Correct, and BTW, the "correct" way to say "correct" is "correct"
	:-) :-)

|> 
|> -Datta

   rAjAt.

PS: This is not a flame, just light-humor :) (see all those smileys :) )
From: vivek@ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Lower Castes WIN
Keywords: Mandal Commission
Date: 19 Nov 92 05:15:01 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

In article <1992Nov19.001642.6229@wuecl.wustl.edu> rr2@cec1.wustl.edu (Rajamiyer Ravichandran) writes:
>
>	It is possible to convert oneself from "upper caste" to
>"lower caste". All you need is to get a certificate from the 
>Thaluk office where one is born. I had some classmates in
>engineering college who had gone through this route and bragged
>about it. It will cost some money to buy that certificate.

It is very easy as you said. In Madras, you could get it in one hour 
from the Tehsildar, just by bribing him with one whisky bottle. This
was true, atleast in 1982, at Mylapore in Madras, from where quite a 
few of our acquaintances got these certificates inspite of the fact,
that they were not even Tamilians.

An example was one family from Delhi,  who were Khatris from Punjab,
their surname being Raval. They got a certificate, stating that they
were a Backward Class, simply due to the fact that there is a tribe,
in the Nilgiris, which is a Backward tribe.

Regards,
Vivek.

-- 
vivek@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu),
Research Assistant, Systems Engineering Lab., Dept. Of Computer Science, 
School Of Engineering, Computer Science And Technology,
California State University, Chico, California.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar)
Subject: Re: TRICKLE-DOWN: Let us thank the conservatives!
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:25:27 GMT

(Srinivas Sunder) writes:
>Been reading too much of the Wall Street Journal, eh? 

I suffer from withdrawal symptoms if I don't browse the Journal!

>gains cut of 1978, Kemp-Roth etc.). Added are the reasons for why
>the S & L debacle occurred (deregulation with socialized risk in the form of
>FDIC insurance), and how to get the deficit back in balance. 

Methinks the S&L bailout cost is an insignificant price to pay for the mega
expansion the country and the world enjoyed. True, it could have been
handled better but of all the sad words of the pen and the tongue, the
saddest are these, "If only I had..." (Diane Chambers, Cheers).

>As for Clinton beating up on this philosophy, I am waiting for someone to ask
>him what he thinks his proposed targeted cap. gains cuts and investment tax
>credits are if not a form of supply side-ism.

You still don't get it, do ya? Clinton's a closet conservative just like
Souter was a closet liberal :-)

>I'll take trickle-down over trample-down anyday, thank you.

Now, now, now... didn't I hear that somewhere?  

Satya Prabhakar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: sdoki@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Suresh Doki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: test
Date: 20 Nov 1992 03:57:04 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu


this is a test to see if my .sig is getting appended.


thanx for the patience ladies and gentlemen.

suresh



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rajain@bones.ecs.umass.edu (Rajat Jain)
Subject: Re: Indian civilization.......
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 21:17:14 GMT

In article <By149s.3p@ucunix.san.uc.edu>, iyengas@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Satya Iyengar) writes:
|>     
|> Hey guys,
|> 
|> when you guys are having a discussion about Ancient Indian civilization
|> wouldn't it be better for you to be a bit more civilized and use refined
|> language.


	Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah !!! :-)


|> 
|>   Satya
|>  "The extinguisher"

	rAjAt.
	"Help! my asbestos suit is on fire" :)
From: virdee@wpi.WPI.EDU (Jagdeep Singh Virdee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: OS phase II
Date: 23 Nov 1992 04:15:56 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <1epldsINNqmj@bigboote.WPI.EDU> sdoki@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Suresh Doki) writes:
>
>
>hey deepak any ideas as to how to go about doing the OS second
>project?
>
>suresh
>
>ps: i expect replies only through follow ups!!


	Bloody wonderful!  Now you are asking about homework over the net?
	Try mailing this information to each other.  I am sure that all
	the S.C.I. readers don't really give a hoot about your second OS
	project.

	BTW, are your thoughts really running so dry that you must post such
	crap?  This, from the ever sarcastic, annoying, jolly, and general 
	pain  Suresh Doki??





p.s.: Hey S.C.I. ..... look, I also go to WPI!  You know, that little
	obscure college somewhere up north.

















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From: lal@cs.arizona.edu (The Morning Sun)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Khalistan
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:00:17 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <0PsguB8w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> garyd@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Gary Deol) writes:

[stuff deleted]

>place - "some nerve!"  Don't worry we still have to get our revenge
>for "Blood for Blood" that was aired on the gov't run Doordarshan
>TV during the Nov. 84 riots!  So maybe next time instead of coming
>to your door with ladoos they will come with a gun.  :^)
						^^^

You sir it seems support terrorism.
	And in your articles are quite anti-hindu. SCI is not a place
for you to spread your propaganda, neither is it a place for terrorists.
	It seems that you're trying to incite hatred against the indian
government. You are using very basic techniques of propaganda. I commend
you on your skills.
	As it turns out you support terrorism. Your true nature is
revealed. I think this was a strategical error. You should not have
revealed this. But Your method of replying to a non-existant post was
quite ingenous.

	Where have you been trained, and who funded your training? Or are
you self-trained?


>
>Gary Deol              garyd@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
From: venu@cirrus.com (Venu Nayar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: HOW WE TIP IN RESTAURANTS
Date: 19 Nov 92 06:25:14 GMT
Organization: Cirrus Logic Inc.

In <3877@key.COM> patel@key.amdahl.com (Chandresh Patel) writes:

>Tipping is a social etiquette. And it may happen that many indians only
>think of their bottom line and not know why some social norms were put
>in practice. The explanation in original posting of why poor tips may result
>in poor service is only one good reason to be tipping with the norm.  The 
>payscale for waiters is set based on the fact that they will be tipped.
>I don't know why/how this system should be changed, but it exists and
>we live by it or we set our indian community apart as a selfish, stingy bourgoies.

i agree with you when you say that you only get what you pay for, but the 
whole idea of tipping in a restaraunt is as a token of appreciation for good 
service. i have noticed that when i go to most indian restaraunts in this 
area i get lousy service. so i dont feel inclined to tip very much, even 
though i have also worked as a waiter and know how much the guys receive as 
pay. therefore,i feel that if waiters should get large tips they should 
provide better service. this is a case of getting paid for good work, not
a mandatory thing.
-- 
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Cirrus Logic Inc.		|		(510)-226-2100 X3737 
For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat,
and wrong.
From: fafat@phakt.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Premarital Sex - Is It OK? yes OK !!!!
Date: 20 Nov 1992 15:08:48 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu

In article <1992Nov18.103656.49914@ccvax.ucd.ie> bharat@ccvax.ucd.ie writes:
>
>
>Lets see what girls say about this .....


	No, Honey Baba, *you* should'nt worry about girls. You cowntinue
	with your 4X.

>
>-vibgyor
>
From: shalan@engr.latech.edu (Shivram Halan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: desi anagrams :-)
Date: 23 Nov 92 07:10:27 GMT
Reply-To: shalan@engr.latech.edu
Organization: Louisiana Tech University

devi lal :  live lad (  Pavan@umn-cs.cs.edu)

	how about : vile lad
		    evil lad 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Subject: Re: Tropical Storm Strikes Southern India
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:34:25 GMT
Reply-To: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <1992Nov15.230757.20410@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>, jack@cloud3.met.fsu.edu (JACK) writes:
>   A tropical storm moved across the southern tip of India on 14 November. If
>anyone on this group has any meteorological information or word on damage and
>casualties, could you please either post it to the net or e-mail it to me?
>

    The latest reports I heard were on Sunday. THere were 260 deaths in India
and eight in Sri Lanka. There is a report of 120 deaths in Tamil Nadu and 30 in
Kerala. In Kerala, one village is said to have been completely swept away by a
flooded river (or stream).


>Jack Beven
>
K. Sankara Rao                          e-mail ksrao@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu

Department of Electrical Engineering
North Dakota State University
Fargo, ND 58105  USA

Phone:  (701)237-7217  (o)
        (701)235-9912  (h)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar)
Subject: Lower Castes WIN
Keywords: Mandal Commission 
Organization: CSIRO Division of Info Tech, Sydney, Australia
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 23:50:06 GMT



LOWER CASTES WIN
----------------
New Delhi, India 

India's Supreme Court has ruled that nearly half of the Federal
Government's jobs should be reserved for lower castes. It    
approved a decision by a former Prime Minister of India, 
Mr.V.P.Singh (whose government was toppled over the issue two
years ago (Mandal Commission)), to extend job reservations to 
those low down the Hindu caste system. - Reuter

SOURCE : The Sydney Morning Herald, Wednesday, Nov.18, 1992


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From: gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: INDIAN CULTURE - Subservient
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:50:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: tamsun.1992Nov18.165016.14666
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University

In article <1992Nov17.170859.26282@csrd.uiuc.edu> ghosh@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Sanjoy Ghosh) writes:
>
>hears is the songs of Ashiqui, QSQT, etc.  In the same way is it right
>to call something part of Indian culture when it is not even known to
>the majority of Indians, much less practised by them.  To say that the 
>culture of a small minority is the culture of the entire race is tantamount 
>to denying the existence of the majority.
>
>Sanjoy Ghosh

Unfortunately, the common man on the Indian streets (who's just struggling
to survive) can not afford to discuss issues like what is culture and so on.
So it remains only upto the well off to define 'culture' which they do with
an unabashed chauvanism of their own personal tastes. 

regards,
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: f0g1@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Prasad Gokhale)
Subject: ISS creeping into Karnataka ?
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 20:52:55 GMT

Following is an article sent by a friend of mine in India.     
Does anybody know more about this incident ?
-------------------------------------------------------------       


                  ISS creeping into Karnataka  ?
                   ---------------------------
                       (by Hemanth Kumar)

A brilliant anti-national act of hoisting a  Pakistani  flag
on  a  mosque  on on Id-e-Milad day September 19, would have
gone unnoticed but for four vigilant activists of the Bhara-
tiya Janata Party in Somvarpet, district North Coorg, Karna-
taka.

After confirming that the flag was really a Pakistani  flag,
the  BJP  activists  promptly took a photograph and reported
the matter to the police. The public mind was  already  agi-
tated  against  this  anit-national  act. Police action fol-
lowed.

Prominent among the seven persons arrested was Sri  Kadabak-
kar  Aboobakkar, Secretary of the Taluk Congress (I) commit-
tee who is the member of the District Wakf Board and also of
the Somwarpet Mandal Panchayat.

The entire Somwarpet Taluk rose to the occasion like one man
to protest against this anti-national act. The local unit of
the BJP, VHP, ABVP, Hindu Jagaran Vedike  along  with  Lions
Club,  Rotary  Club, Mahila Mandali, Merchants associations,
the Bar Association,  Student's  Union  and  people  cutting
across   party   lines  condemned  the  incident  and  urged
stringent action against the culprits. The taluk bar associ-
ation resolved not to take up the case of the seven accused.

The  police,  sensing  disturbance,  decided  to  shift  the
accused  to  the  Madekari  Central  Prison.  The  anger and
resentment against them was so intense that inmates  of  the
Madekari  prison  also attacked them. As a result Kadabakkar
Aboobakar had to be hospitalized.

As the Coorg district Bar association  had  decided  not  to
take  up  the place, none of the advocates came forward. The
case was then transferred to Mysore. Even  the  Mysore  dis-
trict  Bar  association boycotted the case.  Atlast an advo-
cate from Bangalore, a Congress (I) MLC moved a bail  appli-
cation.  About 2000 people gathered in front of the district
court and staged a protest.  Sensing  trouble,  the  accused
were  not produced. On October 3, the same advocate appeared
before the court at Mysore under the bottles. Even then  the
accused  were  not  produced.  The case now stands posted to
17th October 92.

Senior state Vice-President of the BJP and former  MLC,  B.B
Shivappa  organized  a public meeting which unanimously con-
demned the anti-national act and called upon the  people  to
maintain  strict  vigil  to maintain strict vigil to prevent
recurrence of such incidents.


It is feared that the virus of Kerala's Islamic Sewak  Sangh
(ISS) is affecting this border town.

* A picture of a Pakistani Flag  flying  atop  a  mosque  in
Somwar   Peth   town  accompanies  the  article.  
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From: prasad@buggy.Eng.Sun.COM (Prasad Saggurti)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Roommate wanted to share 2-bdrm, 2-bath in San Francisco
Followup-To: socl.culture.indian
Date: 17 Nov 1992 20:56:57 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: ba
Reply-To: nikhil@visby.apple.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: buggy

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Posting for a friend. Please contact him directly.
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Subject: Roommate wanted to share 2-bdrm, 2-bath in San Francisco


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	very close to 101 and 280
	quiet and safe part of town
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	Unfurnished

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	work:   (408) 974-0411
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From: juvvadi@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Ramana R. Juvvadi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Indian civilization being oldest
Date: 21 Nov 92 19:24:55 GMT
Organization: VPI&SU Computer Science Department, Blacksburg, VA

In article <102516@bu.edu> narain@csa.bu.edu (narain attili) writes:
>In article <Mf2bDyG00UhB02QmFE@andrew.cmu.edu: rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh) writes:


>        1. Raja Raja Chola(or was it Rajendra chola?), the great Chola king
>was a heir to both the Chola and Chalukya empires. Ie., He had impure non
>dravidian(!!) chalukya blood in him. Extending this guys argument, he
>should not be interested in Cholas too...what about that?

OK, just to get the record stright. At around 1000 A.D. there were two
Chalukya empires, Eastern Chalukya empire with Vengi as the capital
and Western Chalukya empire. Chola empire was ruled by Raja Raja Raja
Kesari at Kanchi. Raja raja wanted to keep his kingdom by keeping the
two Chalukya empires divided. So he employed thre standard trick. He
got one of his daughters-- Kundavva --married to an Eastern Chalukya
king Vimaladitya. Vimaladitya had a son named Rajaraja Narendra who
inherited Vengi Chalukya empire.  It was under Rajaraja Narendra that
Nannaya translated Mahabhjaratam into Telugu.  Raja Raja Raja Kesari
had a son named Raja Raja Chola.  Rajaraja Narendra himself got married to
again Raja Raja Chola's daughter Ammanga Devi.  Rajaraja Chola had a
son named Rajendra Chola. At that Chola empire was much more powerful
than Chalukya empire. So Rajaraja Narendra named his son after his
uncle as Rajendra Deva. Since Rajendra Chola had no sons he got his
daughter(I forget her name) married to Rajendra Deva.  Rajendra Deva
inherited both Chola Chaluklya empires and shifted over to Kanchi
because that was the bigger of the empires. He became Kulottunga
Chola.

It gets a little confusing because everybody had a prefix of Raja Raja.
Basically there were marriages between Chola and Chalukya kingdoms
for three generations and finally it is the Chalukya king who inherited
the combined empire.

Hope this helps.

>-Narain.

Ramana
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: satish@ldgo.columbia.edu (Satish Paranjpe)
Subject: Green Card Related Querry
Organization: Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:45:04 GMT

Hi Netters,
  
 I am interested in knowing your experiences with the INS
related to getting a green card. My wife is a U.S citizen and has
filed a petition for me. I am interested in knowing little bit in
detail about the interview.
Thanks
Please reply by e-mail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<< satish@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu <<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh)
Subject: Re: UN map of India
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 02:47:03 GMT

nadeem@igpho (Nadeem Malik) writes:

>kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar) writes:


>Really! I am very surprised. Whoever apologised for the UN should
>have been fired on the spot because he was breaching 3 UN resolutions
>and international law which is that Kashmir IS desputed terratory and
>should be decided by Kashmiris in a referendum

>: 
>: Source : "The Hindu" International Edition Newspaper



If such a Standard Newspaper gives the news then there must be some truth
in the content.

Mr. Kumar would you please type the news from the Hindu newspaper, so that 
we come to know the right content.

Bye
Adil


>: 
>: Cheers,
>: 
>: V R Kumar
>: 
>: ** Death is GOD's way of telling you not to be such a wise guy **
>: 
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>Nadeem Malik
>nadeem@p.igp.ethz.ch
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: verma@pfeast.enet.dec.com (Virendra Verma)
Subject: Re: Indian civilization being oldest
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 20 NOV 92 12:53:48    


In article <If3Dopu00UzxA1ZIdS@andrew.cmu.edu>, Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh <rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes...
> 
>Theories. More interesting theories to server their motives. But, how do
>they stand in face of overwhelming scientific evidence. Unless of course
>you dvelve in Aryan mythology. 

	What evidence? Don't look at Hindu scriptures because they are
	mythology in the eye of modern historians.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian