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From: wthomson@brtph126.bnr.ca (William Thomson P785)
Subject: Re: Toyota Celica
Keywords: Toyota Celica
Organization: BNR, Inc. Research Triangle Park, NC
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1992 23:01:42 GMT

I bought a 92 Celica GT-S:  Here are the plusses and minuses as I
see them:

Plusses:

o Vault-like build quality exceeded only by the expensive German makes
o Excellent handling for a FWD car
o Excellent brakes
o Good to very good feel for the road
o Real seat belts + air bag (I detest passive belts and ruled out any car
  that had them)
o Very smooth engine in 92+ models 
o Good midrange torque made the car feel quicker than many supposedly
  quicker cars with peaky 4 bangers.

Minuses:

o Most other competitors are quicker if you shift them at or near the 
  red line.

In summary, go drive one and see if you like it.  Most of the American
auto rags don't like GT-S's because of their objective lack of power but
I found from my test drives that acceleration numbers quoted by the auto
rags (even Car and Whiner's 5-60 times) have little corelation to how 
quick or slow are car feels.  

I like the GT-S although I might well have bought a Saturn Coupe if
it were not for its "attack" belts.
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Bill Thomson                                        BNR, Inc
My opinions are only my own. Opinions are           RTP, North Carolina
like armpits, everyone has a couple.
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: matocha@latech.edu (Kevin Matocha)
Subject: Help!!  Datsun 240Z Carbs
Followup-To: rec.autos
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:20:28 GMT


I have a problem trying to rebuild my 240Z carbs.
I've got both a 1971 and 72 240Z, and they both have the same
carbs, the ones called Hitachi HJG46W (SU type).  I tried getting
a 1972 carb rebuild kit, and got the kit for a dual barrel
(DAF Hitachi) that were supposedly on early model 240s.  I called
Victoria British and they didn't have any idea what to sell me.


If anyone has any information, suggestions, or extra bull to tell
me, please mail me, or reply here, I need some serious help to
get my Z up and running......

Regards,
Kevin matocha@engr.latech.edu


Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: valhert@mist.CS.ORST.EDU (valhert)
Subject: Ford Explorer Discussion
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1992 02:34:07 GMT

Hi Everyone,

My brother recently June 1992 bought a Ford Explorer XLT.
He was wondering if anyone of else that owns the Explorer
has experience any type of problems.  1991 owners please
also help in the discussion.  What do you folks think about
having a V8 in the 1993?  Thank you for your participation.

Valery
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: minor@rtsg.mot.com (Kevin Minor)
Subject: Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee pricing
Keywords: Jeep SUV Utility vehicle
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:35:38 GMT

kparker@javelin.sim.es.com (Kevin Parker) writes:

|>Does anyone have the Jeep Grand Cherokee pricing (Sticker and Invoice)
|>for Base, Laredo and Limited models?  I looked for some info this weekend after
|>seeing a AWESOME green with Gold accent/trim, V8 Limited this weekend.  Is 
|>the Limited worth the extra money?  (Nice tan leather interior looked great!)

|>Any info or sources of info would be appreciated,
|>Kevin Parker

Please post this information...
As well as opinions, on why the Limited (~$30K ?) is worth its price
compared to competing SUVs...
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Xref: sparky rec.autos:22022 misc.forsale:26242
From: robert@sherlock.oas.uci.edu (Robert Morey)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,misc.forsale
Subject: 1984 Audi 5000S for sale--San Francisco
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:29:46 GMT
Distribution: ca


     I have decided to sell my car because, honestly, I do not need it
   anymore--if you know San Francisco, you know that public transportation
   is excellent and, since I have driven my car once in the last two
   months, I have decided to sell it.

     - four-door sedan, metallic grey paint
     - sunroof (the cable has a few broken teeth and should be replaced,
       I could do that, if necessary)
     - real spare tire (not one of those tiny black things)
     - ~130K miles, rebuilt engine and rebuilt transmission
     - good stereo even though the radio is 'sticky' sometimes
     - my tool set, fluids, car-washing stuff, Audi manual
     - Audi carpets (two)
     - full set of bills for repairs and maintenance (so you know every-
       thing that has ever been done to it)
     - it's a 1984 Audi 5000S Fuel Injection, the first of the 'new body'
       design that carried through to 1991 (I think).  This is not one
       of the ones that took off by itself and killed people.

     It's a great driving car but it is not in perfect shape--I have
   always taken good care of it but I am not obsessed with keeping it
   in showroom condition.  The body is fine, as is the upholstery, but
   you can notice, if you look carefully, changes in the paint color and
   a little tear on the back seat.

     I am asking $4000 for it and I think that that is fair--I will
   consider lowering it some if someone gives me a good reason.  It's
   in San Francisco and you can send me email if you would like to come
   take a look at it.  Once again, I am selling it because it is a good
   car and I don't need it and don't use it--there is really no reason
   to just let it age and not use it (my opinion!).

     I should add again that it really is a great driving car--I have
   driven BMW's and find that this model Audi in particular has a touch
   of comfort and luxury that you just can't match.  It gets a good
   gas mileage, too--24 mpg in general.

     Robert
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: khan@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott Coleman)
Subject: Re: THE DOOR HORROR
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 16:09:38 GMT

collin@angelo.amd.com (Collin K. Ong) writes:

>I just went through a close-call to The Door Horror.  I was parked in a tight
>parking lot (Fry's Electronics, Sunnyvale) and came back to my car just as 
>a small truck was pulling into the next space on the driver's side.  Since
>things were pretty tight, I courteously moved to the back of my car to let 
>them park and get out.  Having just read the root article of this thread 
>before lunch, I assumed that if I stood there and watched them get out, they
>would be careful with their doors.  But the STUPID person just swings out his
>door into my month old car!!!!  

I, too, suffered the door horror within one month of the purchase of a new
car. I came out of the office to find a nice scrape, clean through the paint
and primer. Before this happened, I was NEVER paranoid about where I parked
my car, but now I won't park it next to anything is I can possibly avoid it.
I'd rather walk six blocks (good exercise ;-). 

Another close call came when I was parked in front of the post office. I was 
just about to get into my car when a middle-aged woman driving a rusty beat-
to-hell mid-70s LTD began to park in the space to the right of me. She cut
the turn a little too sharply, and as I watched in horror the side of her
jalopy moved in slow-motion towards the rear corner of my nice new car. At 
what seemed to be the last possible second she seemed to wake up; she stopped,
looked over at the car, then at me, and said "I'm not going to make it, am 
I?" I promtly agreed with her! ;-) She then backed up and tried it again, 
making it in with no contact (PHEW!!)

It's too bad there are *ssh*l*s in this world who think nothing of causing
hundreds of dollars' worth of damage to the property of others.

--
Scott Coleman                                                    tmkk@uiuc.edu

Free Advice: It is inadvisable to read Bush's lips at an official banquet.
From: vln@icpsr.umich.edu (Victoria Neff)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: sticky sliding door on Voyager
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:46:20 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Inter-University Consortium for Political and Social Research

In article <13SEP199222534037@zeus.tamu.edu> dap3257@zeus.tamu.edu (DON PERLICK) writes:
>In article <1992Sep13.134903.13163@lonex.rl.af.mil>, koziarzw@lonex.rl.af.mil (Walter Koziarz) writes...
>>In article <1992Sep10.161006.5696@terminator.cc.umich.edu> vln@icpsr.umich.edu (Victoria Neff) writes:
>>>The sliding door on our Voyager has gotten VERY hard to slide in the last
>>>several weeks.  I sprayed all the "wheels" with WD40, which seemed to make
>>>a marginal improvement for about 2 days, and now it's harder to move than
>>>ever.
>> 
>>one suggestion is to never again use 'WD-40'... that stuff is bad news for
>>any mechanism it touches [ref:  find *any* reputable gunsmith and ask him/her
>
>	I don't know about WD40 being as bad as you make it out to be,
>but I don't figure it would be the right thing for the application...
>I'd say try some white lithium grease.  For mechanisms that move that
>much, WD40 isn't the best way to go.  It may be useful for freeing tough
>bolts & nuts, but not the best long-term lubricant.  Lithium grease will
>last better.
>

Many thanks to all those who responded to my question.

I had several recommendations for lith grease, one for motorcycle chain grease,
and one for silicone lubricant (in the little red tube).

I know that WD40 isn't supposed to be a long-term solution to anything, but
I used it on a squeaky bedroom door hinge 6 years ago, which still doesn't
squeak, so I figured it was worth a try....

If the owner's manual doesn't specify what to use, I'll trying the above
suggestions....
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: mark@wdcwdc.sps.mot.com (Mark Shaw)
Subject: Re: Anybody into 64-73 musclecars?
Organization: Motorola Western MCU Design Center, Chandler Arizona
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:42:09 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.191819.15717@julian.uwo.ca>, wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep11.182434.23037@bmerh85.bnr.ca> seymour@bnr.ca (Jeffrey Seymour) writes:
|> >I still have no need for old muscle cars.  

|> That's just what the auto companies want to hear.
|> But unlike you, many movies, tv commercials, etc, do have a need for the
|> old cars (maybe they have more personality as well as performance?)

Perhaps what Mr. Seymour meant was:  If you want to wax philosophical and reminisce about
the good ole days of thundering family sedans, maybe you should carry that conversation
on in the news group alt.autos.antique (or was it alt.farm.equipment or rec.military.tanks?).

Modern automotive technology can produce the same blistering excitement with cars that are
both more fuel efficient and more environmentally responsible.  If it's the sound you want,
maybe putting in a 400 watt car stereo and playing sound effects tapes from the 1968 Winter
Nationals while you blast off the line might give you the same goose bumps?
               
(please note tongue in cheek :-)
     
Mark
From: mcostell@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Malcolm G. Costello)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: removing bumper stickers
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:18:30 GMT
Reply-To: mcostell@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Malcolm G. Costello)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.autos, mark@wdcwdc.sps.mot.com (Mark Shaw) writes:
x|> To remove these bumper stickers, a friend of mine has suggested
x|> repeated scrubbings with Dawn dishwashing liquid. Does anyone else
x|> have any experience in this department? Care to share your methods and
x|> results? Thanks for any suggestions...
x
xI removed the side strips from my VW GTi which are similar tothe vinyl bumper s
xtickers.
xThey were two long strips about 3" in width.  This method sounds scarey, but it
x worked fine.
x
xFirst I used a propane torch and passed it over the sticker at about 5-6 inches
		^^^^^^^^^^^^^
----------------             -------------------------------
The faint of heart might want to try a blow hair dryer first.
-------------------------------------------------------------
x, just enough
xto heat the vinyl and soften it.  Then you can take a paint scrapper and lightl
xy peel up an
xedge and then pull off the softened sticker.  In some cases (depends on how low
x it's been
xthere) the glue will come the sticker.  If not wipe the remaining glue with pai
xnt thinner
xto soften it and use the paint scraper to slowly and smoothly squeegee off the
xglue.
x
xIf done properly, this method will not harm the paint such that a polishing com
xpound cannot
xget out the scratches.  I actually got better results when I honed down the pai
xnt scraper to
xhave a razor like edge.  The technique takes some skill.  I would advise trying
x it on a
xsmall area where a mistake will not be readily noticed.
x
xHave fun :-)
x
>Mark  (mark@wdc.sps.mot.com)      Tempe, AZ

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David Taylor Model Basin, Carderock Division Hq. NSWC    ___/-\____
Bethesda, MD 20084-5000   Phone (301) 227-2431          (__________>|

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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna)
Subject: Re: ANGLED LINES YIELDING SMALLER SPACES???
Organization: NEC Systems Laboratory, Inc.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 16:11:43 GMT

In article <basiji.716053503@milton> basiji@milton.u.washington.edu (David Basiji) writes:
>beuf@wpi.WPI.EDU (Richard J Fuller) writes:
>
>>This may be obviously wrong but here goes anyway....
>>I TOTALLY DISAGREE THAT ANGLED SPACES ARE narrower than
>>straight ones...
>
>>A picture is worth a thousand words.....
>
>> ____ ____ ____ ____ ____
>>|    |    |    |    |    |
>>|    |    |    |    |    |
>>|    |    |    |    |    |
>>|    |    |    |    |    |
>
>
>>is the same thickness as an angled set
>
>> ____ ____ ____ ____ ____
>>\    \    \    \    \    \
>> \    \    \    \    \    \
>>  \    \    \    \    \    \
>>   \    \    \    \    \    \
>
>>CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG BUT In both cases the width
>>of any one spot is 4 characters..... so the narrowness is not changed by angling the spots...
>
>>because last time I checked 4 was equal to 4....
>>If that changed let me know quick (my bank statement came in yesterday...!!!!)

	The width of the space will be your 4 characters times the cosine of
the angle of the spaces.  Make a right triangle out of the top of one of the
spaces in your picture and measure it.  You'll see.

Regards,
-- 
Chris BeHanna	DoD# 114  KotHLF    1983 H-D FXWG Wide Glide (She lives!)
behanna@syl.nj.nec.com	            (I need another bike for this space!)

Disclaimer:  Now why would NEC agree with any of this anyway?
From: jconrad@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Jim Conrad)
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 16:49:20 GMT
Subject: Re: Info needed on VW EuroVan
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID
Newsgroups: rec.autos

The engine is the 5-cyl audi setup for 109HP and 140FtLbs.  The machine
has been reconfigured for front-wheel drive (there's a love-it or hate-it
item!).  It now rides on 6X15" wheels (which may help the wind problem)
using 4-wheel independent suspension with a variation of trailing links
in the rear.

The one I saw this weekend looked like "every other" minivan (boring); I
preferred the styling of the last generation:  neat, trim, functional.

VW is said to offer $1000 purchase "assistance" for wheelchair-bound folks.

JimC
From: Cliff_Lum@mindlink.bc.ca (Cliff Lum)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: engine knocking question
Date: 16 Sep 92 02:37:43 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

> Long Hu writes:
> 
> Msg-ID: <193fsqINN4i2@bluebird.hal.COM>
> Posted: 15 Sep 92 01:56:42 GMT
> 
> Org.  : HaL Computer Systems, Inc.
> 
> 
> Sorry if this is a FAQ. I have a 91 Toyota 4Runner 4 cyl. It occasionally
> knocks when I am climbing hills or when I step on the gas hard. The
> owner's manual said that this engine will occasionally knock. I do notice
> using higher grade gasoline does reduce the knocking considerably. Can
> someone tell me what causes knocking and why higher grade gasoline reduces
> knocking, and whether prolonged knocking causes engine damage. I am trying
> to determine whether I need to pay high price for high grade gasoline,
> or can I just stay with cheaper gasoline and ignore the knocking.
> 
> I am not a reader of this group, can you please send the reply to me
> directly. thanks in advance.
> 
> long@hal.com
> HAL Computer

A defective egr valve can cause knocking. Carbon build up in the Combustion
chambers can cause increase compression which will cause knocking. this can be
solved by using higher octane gas which will not pre-ignite before the spark.
To much city stop and go driving causes most of the build up in the combustion
chambers. the best solution for combustionntake valve deposits is to use
RedLine SI-1 injector & intake valve detergent and some high speed driving down
the highway.
Hope that helps
 
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From:  (Norman)
Subject: Re: Cellular Phones....
Organization: SPS
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:38:58 GMT

In article <BuBDvy.7zH@wpi.WPI.EDU>, beuf@wpi.WPI.EDU (Richard J Fuller) writes:
> 
> 
> Ok what I want to know is what these things really cost to 
> operate...
> 
> 
> It is very easy to get an entery level phone for FREE or for a modest cost 
> ($50-$100)
> 
> But what I want to know is what the thing will cost me to operate....
> 
> 
> I understand that you pay a company like cellular ONE a monthly fee plus usage fees according to some pre arranged plan...  But it thst the only cost or do
> you also pay a reglar phone pbill on top of that????
> How is long distance figured out...  Is it based on where your car is when you place the call or is it based on some local point of reference......
> 
I have two cellular phones and my phone bill runs around $100 total.
You pay a mothly service fee and 60 min. of air time min. you do not pay 
additional regular phone bill. long distance calls are charged the same
 as when you use a line phone. When you get a phone be careful because 
$1000 phone bills are common for those who do not watch how much time
 they send on the phone. also make use the calling party pays because if
 you dont ypu will be paing for calls you make and the calls other people
make calling you.I have service with US West and it is great.
Don't buy a cheap phone.A good Motorola phone is about $350 and they are
the standard all the other phones are compared to.
From: smith@ctron.com (Larry Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: GMs plan: New Credit Card (MC, then possibly VISA)
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:55:49 GMT
Reply-To: smith@ctron.com
Organization: Cabletron Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Sep9.153540.22312@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com>, c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) writes:

>>		10.6% interest rate

>(actually at 10.6% interest rate it is better than our local credit

Which is why it sounded suspiscious to me.  CNN noted it was 16.8 percent.

Larry Smith (smith@ctron.com)  No, I don't speak for Cabletron.  Need you ask?
-
How about we all do something reasonable?  I bet that'll confuse 'em!
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith)
Subject: Re: Infinite Wisdom of Mr. Iacocca
Organization: The John P. Robarts Research Institute, London, Ontario
Distribution: su
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 21:31:48 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.205924.15797@EE.Stanford.EDU> sahul@loading-zone.Stanford.EDU (Zakir H. Sahul) writes:
>Lee Iacocca in a farewell speech to dealers at Chrysler's new model
>announcement show said: "I am absolutely convinced service is the thing
>that will separate the winners from the losers in this business from
>now on"

The service he means is the money to be made servicing new cars
(ie making it more difficult for 3'rd party garages to service cars
and making it impossible for replacement parts to be made by independant
parts makers).

>** Question to netters:  In your opinion, has Iacocca been good or bad for 
>** Chrysler and the US auto industry?

I think that Chrysler has paid back the gov't loan they got a while ago,
and if so, that is probably the best loan the US gov't has ever made.
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: eliot@stalfos.engr.washington.edu (eliot)
Subject: Re: Why a Mercedes Benz 600SEL?
Organization: clearer than blir
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:21:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.000538.14208@scott.skidmore.edu> pwan@scott.skidmore.edu (peter wan) writes:
>> 
>> The 600 is for buyers who have lots of money, to whom status is important, and
>> who want the prestige of an expensive (and also fast) car.
>

>...and who wants to deplete the earth of fossil fuel...


There are many ways to look at this.  If every one on planet earth
drove 600 SELs then we're going to be burning up oil a lot faster.
But since there's only going to be one 600 SEL for a million regular
cars (or whatever tiny proportion) one could argue that its impact on
oil reserves is negligible.  Sure, it is not a step in the right
direction as far as the environment is concerned, but since only a
very privileged few will ever have one, I do not have a problem with
its thirst or environmental impact.

eliot
From: seymour@bnr.ca (Jeffrey Seymour)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: ANGLED LINES YIELDING SMALLER SPACES???
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:43:07 GMT
Reply-To: seymour@bnr.ca (Jeffrey Seymour)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

If you put 4 characters inbetween each of the lines when you drew the diagrams, you will be surprised to note that the spaces are not the same width.  Width would have to be defined as the distance measured perpendicularly from one line to another.  In this case the width of the slanted rows would be smaller by
(SIN a) X width b



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| \    \    \        |    | 
|  \    \    \       |    |
|-a-\    \    \      |    | 



OK
From: johns@trident.datasys.swri.edu (Stephen Johns)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: ANGLED LINES YIELDING SMALLER SPACES???
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:47:54 GMT
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio

In article <BuBF9u.Ctq@wpi.WPI.EDU> beuf@wpi.WPI.EDU (Richard J Fuller) writes:
>
>This may be obviously wrong but here goes anyway....
>I TOTALLY DISAGREE THAT ANGLED SPACES ARE narrower than
>straight ones...

Lesse how much geometry I remember...

If the lines are parallel the width is the same.  Definition of parallel.
Assuming a competent paint crew, the lines are parallel. :)
The width is the same.

If you were to close the ends, the area of the resulting parallelogram
would NOT be the same.

  Area of parallelogram = h * w * sin ( ( either interior angle ) )

Only when sin ( ( either interior angle ) ) == 1 is the area equal to the
area of the equivalent rectangle, and surprise
  sin ( ( either interior angle ) ) == 1 when the interior angle is
  90 degrees!

-- 
Stephen Johns, Research Analyst
Southwest Research Institute, SA, TX 78228 (512) 522-5751
From: erich.lim@cutting.hou.tx.us (Erich Lim) 
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: ARMOR ALL VS. STP
Date: 7 Sep 92 20:01:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: erich.lim@cutting.hou.tx.us (Erich Lim) 

 As we all know, Armor All dries the hell out of vinyl, rubber,
plastics, etc because of the formaldehyles and the other chemicals in
it.  So what about STP's Son of a Gun protecant.  Does STP do the same
damage as Armor All.  And are there any other good stuff to use that are
reasonably priced??  I've seen stuff like Back Magic and other stuff
that costs more, but wonder if they are any better than Armor All.


Erich Lim