From: bartlone@gemed (Mike Bartolone 5-4266)
Subject: alt.bonsai FAQ updates
Reply-To: bartlone@gemed.ge.com (Mike Bartolone 5-4266)
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Milwaukee,  WI
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 14:09:11 GMT

Here are the changes and additions from last weeks FAQ..next post will
be the full FAQ file..


Changes
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New
 cultivated, but there is mention of it as early as the Kamakura period
 (1192-1333), in a scroll describing life in the Heiari period (794-1191).*
 Other sources claim the roots of bonsai are in China where it started
 with the gardeners of the emperor, and the secrets were handed down from 
 father to son.
    The original bonsai tree's were usually collected, dwarfed by nature. 
 Today, however, it is probably better to allow such specimens to stay
 where they are. Many locations collecting them in the wild is against
 the law. In others the chance of finding a suitable specimin is almost
 zero.
    Over the years, techniques have evolved which allow the grower change 

old
 cultivated, but there is mention of it as early as (insert date here)
 The original bonsai tree's were usually collected, dwarfed by nature. 
 Over the years, techniques have evolved which allow the grower change 

 
 
New

 Montebello Nursery         (May be out of business!!)

old

 Montebello Nursery





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(Note: Additions have (####) where #### is the line number of the first 
line of the addition, prepended to the first line.

(64) *(From The Masters Book of Bonsai)
 

(345)     Opinion 2)    Indoors: Remember that immature plants should not be 
         treated as bonsai, they must be treated as the houseplants they 
         are. Give them plenty of soil to grow in and don't use to little
         fertilizer, or they won't develop branches and leaves when you
         cut them and the trunk won't grow in thickness.
 
 
(371)     Opinion 2)    The question should really be: Should I start from 
     scratch with a small seedling, or with a plant that is larger. 
     Neither will give you "instant bonsai". The larger will have a thicker 
     trunk from the beginning, and thus will look "almost like a tree" 
     sooner. A younger plant gives you larger freedom in which shape to 
     train it into. You get to use different methods on them, the larger 
     lends itself to cutting down, the smaller to cutting away to encourage 
     other growth.
 
    (And by all means, if you see a shaped tree you really want,
    the price is right, it looks healthy and undamaged, and is of
    a species you know is hardy or of a sort you already have, and
    therefore know you can take care of -- it _is_ OK to buy it.)
 
 
 
(390) Ficus benjamina         Indoors
    Fast grower, hardy. Easy to get the leaves small. Suitable for
    many different shapes.
 
 Ficus retusa            Indoors
    Similar to benjamina, leaves grow in a different pattern.
 
 Ficus pumila            Indoors
    If you want a cascade, this is the way to go. Cut often to
    prevent it from going long and thin. May die if the roots dry
    out totally.
 
 Schefflera arboricola   Indoors
 Schefflera actinophylla Indoors
    Can be cut down enormously, buy a 50cm plant and cut it down
    to 10cm! Must be shaped completely without wiring. Takes
    correct treatment to get the leaves small.
 
 Crassula argentea       Indoors
 Portulacaria afra       Indoors
    Succulents with small leaves, branch easily.
 
 Malpighia cocciera      Indoors
    Slow grower.
 
 Murraya paniculata      Indoors
    Slow grower. Gets beautiful structured bark when still young.
 
 Myrthus communis        cool winters
    Must be kept at around +10C in the winter.
 
 
 
(444) Svenska Bonsais{llskapet
 c/o Margit K}berger 
 Kornbodsg. 27
 S-724 81 V{ster}s
 Sweden
 
 
(546) Bonsai Nursery
 966 S. Saratoge-Sunnyvale Road
 San Jose, CA.
 408-252-1458
 
     Very nice selection of finished bonsai ranging from $40.00 on up, 
     clay pots, tools, and starter plants.  The starter plants are 
     in 3" and 4" containers and priced between $3.00-$5.00.  This is 
     a very good way to begin a new bonsai.  They also carry a good 
     selection of plants in 1 gallon containers that can be "bonsai-ed".  
     Friendly and knowledgeable service.
 
 Ken's Bonsai Gardens
 471 Page Mill Rd.
 Palo Alto, Ca
 415-325-4840
 
     "Ken" is a master.  I was very humbled by visiting his gardens
     which are located in his small front yard.  Very high-quality finished 
     bonsai.  Prices ranged from $20.00 up into the thousands. 
     No supplies to speak of...just a few pots sitting on the front
     porch.  
 
 
 

(757) 
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