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From: scott@Apple.COM (scott douglass)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Thrush
Date: 24 Jul 92 06:18:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

vrs0@bunny.gte.com (V. Stern) writes:

>I think my 19 month-old son has thrush.  I noticed a lot of white stuff on 
>the roof of his mouth yesterday while he was crying.  He has not been 
>interested in eating for the past couple of days.   He's also been a 
>little restless at night, which is highly unusual for him.  It's almost 
>like he is having bad dreams, so it's probably coincidental.  Otherwise he 
>seems normal.   I called the pediatrician, and he simply phoned in a 
>prescription for Nystatin.  I told him I had never seen thrush, so 
>couldn't be sure that's what it is, but he didn't want to see him.
>...
>Last question.  What exactly is Nystatin?  Is it an antibiotic or an 
>antifungal medcine?
>

Nystatin is the stuff in jock itch spray.  I suppose they make it taste
better, though.  It doesn't work, and they know it.  The thrush will
probably clear up on its own.  If it doesn't, go to an old drugstore
and get Gentian Violet.  It clears it up within a day or two.  The only
problem is that it looks like the kid's been sucking on a pen.  Everyone
you meet will say, "Excuse me, did you notice your kid sucked on a pen?"

We tried the Nystatin for a long time with no luck so our doctor finally
told me Gentian Violet is the only thing that worked.  I asked her why
she didn't say so in the first place, and she said that it usually goes away
by itself.  I said so why didn't she just prescribe the Gentian Violet?
"Problems with compliance."  I guess most people don't want their kid
looking like the Rocky Horror guy.

It is unusual for an older baby to get thrush.  It never seemed to cause
my baby pain.  Maybe he as foot-and-mouth disease or something else?

		--  maggie
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From: noelie@apollo.hp.com (Noelie Alito)
Subject: Re: RU-486 Confiscation
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:38:57 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA
Keywords: abortion, RU-486, FDA, confiscation, Bush, paternalism 

In article <1992Jul22.055020.155542@zeus.calpoly.edu> dfield@zeus.calpoly.edu (Daniel R. Field) writes:
>The recent case of the government confiscating a woman's personal supply of
>RU-486 is very distressing.  The FDA "allows" a person to import personal
>supplies of drugs (other than the psychedellic variety) for personal use,
>such as as many unapproved AIDS drugs.
>
>Abortion is currently legal (and, I hope, will remain so) in this country.
>Since the action of this drug is not illegal, what other than sour
>politics on the part of the Bush administration could justify this
>confiscation?  Is there any paternalistic arguement about this drug that
>demands that a grown woman needs to be "protected" from this particular
>unapproved drug any more than those others that they allow in? 
>

My recollection of the NPR report was that

    1) The woman explicitly "challenged" the ruling by announcing
       her intention to the authorities (FDA?  DEA?), when she
       could have just brought in her personal supply without
       incident.  The agency picked up the gauntlet.  And the drugs.

    2) The courts upheld the confiscation, since the law includes
       language to the effect that there is "accepted alternative"
       to the proscribed drug (i.e., she could have had a traditional
       "surgical" abortion to address her medical needs).

From this I cannot tell whether the FDA would just as soon turn a
blind eye on smuggling RU-486 for personal use, or would be especially
"paternalistic" about an abortifacent.

Are there any companies actually seeking FDA approval for RU-486
(i.e., in the face of potential boycotts)?  (Or is "R-U" the only
company that can make it?)

>Argh!

I'm well past "Argh!" and well into "Sigh..."

                          -Noelie "Jaded&Cynical" Alito
                           noelie@apollo.hp.com
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From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Questions for MDs
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:13:10 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department

In article <15524@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> fzjaffe@othello.ucdavis.edu (Rory Jaffe) writes:

			....................

>We also have essentially stopped using one drug for adults (halothane)
>because of this.  Severe halothane hepatitis probably has an incidence
>of 1:100,000 adult anesthetics with halothane (give or take).  But
>anyone who turns yellow after an operation can get the label tacked on
>by someone, and then sues.  It's hard to explain to a jury that the
>hemodynamic effects of halothane vs. isoflurane may cause you to prefer
>the former in patients with coronary artery disease.  The risk-benefit
>argument doesn't seem to go over well.  For comparison, the incidence of
>fatal reaction to penicillin is also about 1:100,000. 

This is an excellent example of the problem with the practice of medicine.
If the medical crew makes the decision, they should be stuck with the
consequences.  On the other hand, if the patient is given the full
information, and makes an informed decision, only wilful fraud or
clear incompetence, as determined by a review board which is composed
of good physicians and pathologists who hate incompetence, but respect
honest differences, should be actionable.
-- 
Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
Phone: (317)494-6054
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From: km@speedy.cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Thrush
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:01:51 GMT
Reply-To: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computer Science Dept., University of Pittsburgh

Diabetes is one condition that predisposes to thrush. There
would usually be some other symptoms of diabetes present,
however.

 -Ken Mitchum MD
 km@cs.pitt.edu
From: fzjaffe@hamlet.ucdavis.edu (Rory Jaffe)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Use of term allopath
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:41:44 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis

In article <1992Jul27.235859.7935@island.COM> green@island.COM (Robert Greenstein) writes:
>I did not claim alternative medicine did all of those things. I did say
>Chinese medicine can cure asthma. Chinese herbal medicine is effective for
>certain types of heart disease, not valvular heart disease. IT usually 
>does not cure diabetes, but it can reduce insulin dependence. It can very
>effectively treat many forms of arthritis. Please provide the quote 
>where I said anything about "making joints normal".

GREAT!  The world should be beating a path to the door of the person who
can cure asthma.  Where are the studies published?  Please provide
references.

P.S. The philosophy of science is not allopathy nor homoeopathy nor
anything else that is merely descriptive like those two methods.
What is important is that the theory be testable, and that the test be
generalizable.  You have propounded some easily testable ideas:  get two
matched groups of typical sufferers of these problems, give them either
herbal medicine or placebo, and have blinded observers evaluate them.

We have benefitted so much from scientific method that I don't think
most people would like to abandon everything derived from that.  If you
don't believe in scientific method, fine.  Just figure out what the
consequences would be.  I think that thinking through that would provide
the best endorsement of the validity of the model of thinking that is
called science.
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: M20614@mwvm.mitre.org (Hugh Pritchard)
Subject: Re: virus/retrovirus
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:38:52 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.134442.9382@bradley.bradley.edu>
larry@bradley.bradley.edu (Larry D. Stratton) writes:
 
>   Could someone explain the difference between a virus and
>   a retrovirus?
 
Traditional viruses (virii?) are made up of a protein shell wrapped
around DNA fragments.  The DNA fragments insert themselves into a cell's
own DNA in the cell's nucleus.  Now, when the cell's own RNA comes along to
transcribe the DNA-encoded instructions into something the cell's own
machinery (ribosomes?) can understand in constructing things, the *virus*
DNA is ALSO transcribed, instructing the cell machinery to construct more
viruses.
 
Retroviruses cut out one step:  They contain *RNA*.  When the RNA gets
into a cell, it just goes directly to the cell machinery and orders more
viruses to be built.
 
**  Hugh Pritchard,  hapritch@mitre.org,  703/883-6616
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: Kirk.Smith@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Kirk Smith)
Subject: DO/MD Differences
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 03:13:59 GMT

I'm a 23 year old white American male, who's recently re-entered college
at the community college level with hopes to become a physician.  I've got
about 2 more years of math and science at the JC before transfer to a 
university, so I'll be a bit older than most medical school applicants.  I
have some poor grades in my past (when I was fresh out of high school),
but my grades have been much better over the past year or so.  Still, I
won't have a 4.00GPA when applying to med schools, no matter what I do.

After speaking with a counselor, she suggested that I check into Osteopathy
schools.  According to her, they are a bit easier for someone like me to
get into (older, not great GPA, but medical experience [I've worked in
a hospital and am a paramedic, with lots of paid and volunteer experience]).

I'm wondering what the general consensus of becoming a DO is.  I know little
about Osteopathic 'theory'.  I do know that a local (California) cardiologist
is a DO, and a local ER doc is a DO.  Are there any limitations to what my
specialty could be (ie: surgery, etc?).  I understand most DOs are in family
practice, which isn't currently my main area of interest (Emergency Medicine
is my current area of interest, but I'd like to keep my options open at
this VERY early stage in the game).  What kind of differences in teaching
could I expect?  Any practice restrictions in various states?

I'd appreciate any info anyone can give me (post or email, either is fine),
or pointers towards books I could read on the subject.

-Kirk J. Smith

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Newsgroups: sci.med,connect.audit
From: green@island.COM (Robert Greenstein)
Subject: Re: Use of term allopath
Organization: Strawman Incorporated
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:03:39 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.192038.5433@ibmpcug.co.uk> george@ibmpcug.co.uk (Michael Veltman) writes:
>In article <1992Jul27.235859.7935@island.COM> green@island.COM (Robert Greenstein) writes:
>>I did not claim alternative medicine did all of those things. I did say
>>Chinese medicine can cure asthma. Chinese herbal medicine is effective for
>>certain types of heart disease, not valvular heart disease. IT usually 
>
>Steroids cure asthma - if anything actually "cures" asthma.
 
But then you have to deal with the damage caused by long-term steroid use.
 
>>effectively treat many forms of arthritis. Please provide the quote 
>
>Arthritis is often a waxing/waning illness.  

SO how does this negate what I said? 
 
>By their nature, alternative medicines are largely untested.  This does not
>mean that they do not work.  It means that they are untested.  Of course, 
>so, by and large, is battery acid.   Apply caution before considering
>alternative therapies - they offer no certainty of improvement beyond a
>placebo effect.

What? Untested you say? Chinese and auyervedic medicine have both been
extensively tested and refined for several thousand years. How much
more testing do you need? Please don't use the excuse that they were
not using double-blind experiments. There is enough empirical evidence
compiled with tens of thousands of observations, that this medicine 
absolutely works, and not on account of the placebo effect.  

Why is it that most M.D.'s, including the ones on this net seem to be
unable to even entertain the possibility that other forms of medicine
have anything worthwhile to contribute? Is this just ethnocentrism, or
a turf battle?
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                            of latent idiocy - M. Corelli
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Sleep
Date: 26 Jul 92 22:23:53 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <10970007@hplred.HP.COM> dsouza@hplred.HP.COM (Roy D'Souza) writes:
>
>Hi,
>
>I am interested in reducing the hours that I sleep.
>Recently I went from eight hours a night to seven.
>I would like to go even lower. Much lower.
>
>My question is: "how do I tell when I have gone below
>the amount of sleep that my body really needs?"
>
You will become drowsy during the day.





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From: young@serum.kodak.com [Rich Young] (x37176)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: 60 Minutes-Heart Disease & The French
Date: 25 Jul 92 15:53:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: pixel.1992Jul25.155342.8847
Reply-To: young@serum.kodak.com
Organization: Clinical Products Division, Eastman Kodak Company
Originator: young@sasquatch

In article <1992Jul25.011010.2207@news.columbia.edu> stone@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Glenn Stone) writes:

>In article <1992Jul23.220715.17142@pixel.kodak.com> young@serum.kodak.com writes:
>
>Thanks for posting this.  A few questions:
>
>
>>	"Before you pick up your glass, however, consider that French men
>>	are three times more likely to die of cancer of the esophagus, that
>>	both French men and women are more than twice as likely to die of
>>	stomach cancer, and that both types of cancer are linked to alcohol
>>	consumption.  '60 Minutes' never makes that point.  Nor does the
>>	TV program point out that excessive alcohol consumption is also
>>	the cause of cirrhosis of the liver, which may have something to
>>	do with the fact that the French die of cirrhosis and chronic liver
>>	disease at almost two times the rate of Americans."
>
>We'd need to know the actual mortality rates for these ailments that
>are "twice as likely".  If they're really low than it doesn't mean
>much.  Two per million is twice as high as one per million.

   Don't know about the stomach and esophagus, but I have data which says
   that an estimated 8,150 people died of "oral" cancer in 1991 in the U.S.
   Number courtesy of the American Cancer Society by way of The World
   Almanac.

   As for cirrhosis, the National Center for Health Statistics says that,
   in 1988, an estimated 26,080 died of "cirrhosis and other liver disease."
   Since the population of the U.S. is roughly 250 million, that would be
   slightly more than .01 percent of the population, or 104 deaths per
   million in the U.S. from cirrhosis and other liver disease.

   I do apologize for not having better data, but perhaps the cirrhosis
   numbers might be useful.  Besides, _I_ didn't write the article, so I
   don't feel particularly obliged to defend it.

[...remainder of comments deleted...]

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Newsgroups: sci.med
From: chris@kbsw1 (Chris Kostanick 806 1044)
Subject: Re: Red Hot Chili Peppers...(was: Colonic irrigations)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:18:08 GMT
Reply-To: chris@kbsw3.UUCP (Chris Kostanick 806 1044)
Organization: Kentek Information Systems

>Do people flush when they eat chilis?

Yup, I can tell that something is really hot when I start 
sweating profusely. The rogan josh (Indian lamb stew) with
1 Tablespoon of chyenne pepper in it had my sweating by the
third bite. Sure was tasty though.

Chris Kostanick
"Gimme hot food and cold beer and I'm gone ..."

Newsgroups: sci.med,alt.drugs
From: errol@leland.Stanford.EDU (errol craig)
Subject: Re: What is the Health Risk from Smoking MJ?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 21:22:26 GMT

>: -*----
>: The greatest danger from smoking marijuana is that by possessing,
>: using, buying, and selling this drug, one risks the attention of
>: a group of thugs who will steal one's property, abuse one's person,
>: deprive one's liberty, and otherwise make one's life miserable.  
>
>Good description of the drug warriors.
>
Good description of the government


Newsgroups: sci.med
From: green@island.COM (Robert Greenstein)
Subject: Re: Questions for MDs
Organization: Strawman Incorporated
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:40:35 GMT

In article <15784@pitt.UUCP> km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.200017.6677@island.COM> green@island.COM (Robert Greenstein) writes:
>>In article <15699@pitt.UUCP> km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum) writes:
>>
>>>Are you related to the lady who came into the ER wanting to know when
>>>I would WAIT on her? I'm sorry, but I don't think the shoe salesman
>>
>>Please tell me what is so HORRIBLE about this. Are doctor's egos so
>>big that the thought of being addressed in the same manner as one might
>>address a shoe salesman is enough to cause a hissy fit?
>
>Excuse me. The next time I go into a shoe store where the salesman
>has been on his feet the past 12 hours with 50 patients, 3 cardiac
>arrests, 2 major trauma cases, and a bunch of prissy private doctors
>on the phone telling him what to do with the little old lady with
>gas, I'll address him differently.
>
> -km

Would you have preferred that the lady kiss your feet?
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From: mdf0@GTE.com (Mark Feblowitz)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Any info on steroids and Chicken Pox?
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:05:46 GMT
Distribution: sci
Organization: GTE Laboratories Inc.

The following appeared in the IBDlist mailing list. I was aware of
some of the dangers of steroids and Chicken Pox, but had other
questions. Does anyone have access to the FDA alert mentioned?
Do inhaled steroids (Beclovent, Beconase) pose as great of a risk?

Thanks

Mark

================================================================

Date: Sat, 11 Jul 92 13:59:25 EDT
From: thomas%mvac23@udel.edu (Thomas Lapp)
Subject: Steriod Drug Alert


Steroid Drug Alert
------------------

If your or your child is taking corticosteriod drugs such as prednisone,
you should be aware of a recent warning from the Food and Drug
Administration.  Noting that people who take these medications may be
at increased risk of severe, possibly fatal, infections if exposed
to chicken pox or measles, the FDA has ordered pharmaceutical
companies to add a warning to the labeling of corticosteriods.

Measures can be taken to protect patients against complications.  Please
consult your doctor.
                         - tom

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From: hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath)
Subject: Re: Red Hot Chili Peppers...(was: Colonic irrigations)
Keywords: alt medicine
Organization: The Cat Factory
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:06:32 GMT

In article <23333@alice.att.com> ark@alice.UUCP () writes:
}Here's another possible explanation: is it impossible to grow hot
}peppers in cool climates.
}
}At least that's what I infer from an article I read in a gardening
}magazine a few years ago about growing hot peppers.  It said that the
}hotness of all kinds of peppers depends critically on the temperature
}while they are ripening; if it is not at least 95 degrees, the peppers
}will not be hot.

I don't know about peppers, but horse raddish grows in cold climates.
According to a documentary I saw, the colder the weather, the hotter
the horse raddish.

The Polymath (aka: Jerry Hollombe, M.A., CDP, aka: hollombe@polymath.tti.com)
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