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From: Ken.Blystone@f94.n381.z1.fidonet.org (Ken Blystone)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: College of Education K12 Net Node
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 07:26:25 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:381/94 - College of Educatio, El Paso TX


The University of Texas at El Paso is sponsoring the lastest K12 Net node to be added to the network.  The "College of Education" K12 Net BBS is now operating from the Mathematics Laboratory on the fourth floor of the education building.  Pre-service teachers (education majors) will be encouraged to participate in this environment.

While universities usually promote the big networks, it is nice to know that there is room for independent grassroots efforts.  It has taken almost a year to maneuver through the bureaucracy to make this
new K12 Net node a reality.  The College of Education K12 Net node
1:381/94 makes the fifth system available to callers in the El Paso area.  Two more systems, one at a middle school and one at an elementary school, will be online in December.  We have recently gone through a local grant writing process through which teachers could apply for classroom and/or school-wide project funding.  From a pool of 3 million dollars, almost 20 percent of the funding went to technologically oriented proposals.  Many teachers applied for computers, modems, and telephone lines.  Soon, te



achers like Carol Hooper, Debbie Roth and others will have the access for their students that they have desired for so long.  By January, our district will have installed over 50 new phonelines and modems for instructional use.  I think 1993 is going to be a busy K12 Net year.


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From: Brian.Weir@f70.n147.z1.fidonet.org (Brian Weir)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: letter to the world
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 19:25:28 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:147/70 - The Teacher's Pet, Oklahoma City OK


 TC> Hi,my name is Tyler.  I like sports alot. I also play 
 TC> the piano and I also play the the piano.I am pretty 
 TC> good. There are four people in my family. 
 TC> ---

Hi, Tyler.  My name is Brian Weir.  I would really like to know you because you sound like a neat person.  The thing is, though, that this message area is devoted specifically to discussions about mathematics.  If you would like to chat with me some more, please read the message that I've sent to you in the General Mail area.

Brian Weir



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From: rgep@emu.pmms.cam.ac.uk (Richard Pinch)
Subject: Re: interactive math texts
Summary: Sorry for the slip-up
Keywords: interactive math text information cti-maths mailing list
Organization: Department of Pure Mathematics, University of Cambridge
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 10:09:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.101944.14222@infodev.cam.ac.uk> I wrote:
>In article <tmunson.722118588@cwis> tmunson@cwis.unomaha.edu 
>(todd s. munson) writes:
>>The University of Nebraska at Omaha math department is looking for any
>>information on interactive math texts.  Any information would be appreciated.
>>[...]
>
>There is an electronic mailing list based at the University of Birmingham
>called cti-maths.  You can subscribe to it by sending a message consisting
>of the line
>               join cti-maths
>to mailbase@mailbase.ac.uk

but should have written

		join cti-maths    Todd Munson

(or whoever).

Sorry about that!

Richard Pinch

Newsgroups: k12.ed.math,sci.math.reaearch,sci.math
From: rgep@emu.pmms.cam.ac.uk (Richard Pinch)
Subject: Re: interactive math texts
Summary: There is an e-mail forum
Keywords: interactive math text information
Organization: Department of Pure Mathematics, University of Cambridge
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 10:19:44 GMT

In article <tmunson.722118588@cwis> tmunson@cwis.unomaha.edu 
(todd s. munson) writes:
>The University of Nebraska at Omaha math department is looking for any
>information on interactive math texts.  Any information would be appreciated.
>[...]

There is an electronic mailing list based at the University of Birmingham
called cti-maths.  You can subscribe to it by sending a message consisting
of the line
               join cti-maths
to mailbase@mailbase.ac.uk

Richard Pinch
From: Brian.Bridal@f49.n134.z1.fidonet.org (Brian Bridal)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: Math programs
Date: 23 Nov 92 03:16:08 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/49 - The Student Exchang, Calgary Alta

I'm not exactly sure what levels of math you were wanting to get more practice on, but I have found a good introductory program that you may want to look at.
 It is called AlgeBlaster Plus.
 
I've used it on the Macintosh and I think it is also available for IBM and compats.
 
ttyl
 
brian


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From: vmzmeu@halcyon.com (Zmeu Vladimir-Martin)
Subject: Who were medalists in Math Olympiad for past 20 years?
Summary: request for list of Math Olympiad medalists for past 20 years
Keywords: math olympiad medalists
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 15:47:33 GMT

Where may I find a complete list of the International Mathematics Olympiad
winners for each of the past 20 years, or more?

I thank you in advance for your help.

Vladimir-Martin Zmeu
vmzmeu@halcyon.com
From: cb919@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Bolduan)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: Re: A Nice Geometry Problem
Date: 20 Nov 1992 21:09:54 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


 The circle asked for is of course known as the in-circle of the
triangle. I won't spoil people's fun in solving it, but the answer is 
one of those cases where you will say "gee that's neat -- I didn't
know that!"
As an extension:  draw the 3-4-5 triangle and label as ABC (B at the 90
degree angle). Extend all three sides. Now find the radii of the
three circles, each of which is tangent to one of the sides (extrnally)
and the other two sides extended. For instance, one such circle
is tangent to BC and to AC extended and to AB extended. Again, 
the results are not well-known and are "interesting".

On a related note:  Students learn in high school trig about the
law of Sines (at least I HOPE they still do!!! :-) ) which says
that the ratio a/sin A = b?sin B = c/sin C. That is, this
particular ratio is a constant. The question for you out there in
math=-land is: what is the significance of this particular
constant? i.e., what does it have to do with the original
triangle. Another gee whiz type answer.
enjoy
mike
bolduan @catlin    onn bitnet
bolduan@catseq.catlin.edu    on internet
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From: Matt.Asher@f174.n138.z1.fidonet.org (Matt Asher)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: LETTER TO THE WORLD
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 18:29:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:138/174 - Black 424, Tacoma WA

HEY, BABE WHASS UP!



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Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
From: Stan.Woodard@f65.n228.z1.fidonet.org (Stan Woodard)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: Castle around London
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 19:41:46 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:228/65 - K12 Educator, Muskegon MI

1774. George Gordon was elected to Parliament, representing Ludger-Schall.
Re-elected in 1778. 1780, he led a protest known as Lord Gordon Riot, with
50,000 people protesting a bill before House of Commons. Tried for Treason.
Found innocent by reason of insanity. What was the name and location of
Lord George Gordon Von Plees' castle and where was/is it today? Address?
His son, William Augustus took his mother's name Von Plees, from the Honorable
Elizabeth Friend Von Plees. He was born in London in 1850, and played organ
for Queen Victoria as a young man before immigrating to US.
His father died 1793, but no other info is known.
Son died at 96 years in Chicago.


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From: Todd.Horne@f118.n244.z1.fidonet.org (Todd Horne)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: Re: Social Studies Canada
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 22:49:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:244/118 - Renzo's Roost, Hamilton ON

    Hello Audrey;
        I read your post and it seems intriguing.  Tell me, what is it you are looking for or want to know?  I'm from Hamilton, Ontario, but come originally from a small place outside of Halifax (Nova Scotia (New Scotland)).  Anyways, I'm running out of time, so write me back.

        -Todd Horne.


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From: pfeewing@radford.vak12ed.edu (Ewing Class)
Subject: midway Island
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Radford)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 19:15:54 GMT

	I'm studying about the Island Midway.  I'm have
problems finding information for my report. If you can supply me
with some information pleases contact me.  My address is
pfeewing@radford.vak12ed.edu.
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From: Colleen.Sauer@p15.f17.n3400.z1.fidonet.org (Colleen Sauer)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: E-Mail projects (fwd)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 07:37:02 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3400/17.15 - MET NET BBS, Helena MT

Hello!  I am a fifth grade teacher in Montana and would very much like to see your unit using Jean Craighead George's literature.  It sounds like just the kind of thing my kids would enjoy!

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From: vjones@norfolk.vak12ed.edu (Verna M. Jones)
Subject: Re: E-Mail projects (fwd)
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Norfolk)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 15:19:14 GMT

svaughn@swvgs.vak12ed.edu  writes:
> Gleason Sackman  writes:
> > 
> > ---------- Text of forwarded message ----------
> > 
> > Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:35:00 EST
> > From: Stephanie Stevenson 904/939-2377/78 <STEVENS@mail.firn.EDU>
> > Subject: RE: E-Mail projects
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 	I have written two telecommunication extensions for integrated 
> > curriculum social studeis units for the new Social Studies curriculum for 
> > the state of Florida. If you are interested in having these I can upload 
> > them to you. One is a literature based unit on the Talking Earth by Jean 
> > Craighead G.eorge It integrates science, Social studies and language for 
> > 4th or 5th grade.
> > the other is Archaeology: a science, language, social studies, and math 
> > curriculum . It explores the field of archaeology and can be extended into 
> > the study of civilizations. it is a third grade unit but is easily 
> > adaptable to other levels.
> 
>   Hello,
> I am a fifth grade teacher at Dublin Elementary School in
> Dublin, Virginia.
>  I am very interested in receiving these units. I am a bit
> dis-illusioned with our current Social Studies Cirriculum in
> our fifth grade. Thank you !!
> E-mail svaughn@swvgs.vak12ed.edu


I am a Gifted/Talented teacher for K-7 at Windsor Elem. in
Windsor, Va. I would like to receive these units as I am
interested in doing a unit with my classes and had begun to
gather materials. Thanks!
From: Phil.Spooner@p0.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Phil Spooner)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.soc-studies
Subject: Seasons of New York
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 08:48:34 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.0 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

 Dear Mr. Crawford:
 
     Hi, we are 5th graders from Mrs. Markus' class at Gaston Elementary, 

in Gaston, Ore.  We would like to ask you a few questions about your 
state.  We would like to use the information on a state report.
     This is one of the questions:  What is your favorite season of 

the year?
     Also, what is it like in your state during that season?
     And finally, what kinds of things do you like to do during that 

season?
 
    Thank you for your time.
 
    Sincerely,
 
     Ronny Coolidge, Chana VanderZanden,  Mary Lucas,  Katie Christian,
Sara Morrow



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From: Jason.Jeremy.Danielle@f17.n128.z1.fidonet.org (Jason Jeremy Danielle)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tag
Subject: Nothing much dude! My name is brian, I an a neard
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 12:37:04 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:128/17 - Rivendell, Colorado Springs CO

yo like totaly tubluar dude!  Having fun with your friends, Have you dropped out of school yet dude!  I 'm sure not going to because I really love homework!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Someone said to say not but I really do love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

     I love my friends grilfreind Mandy how it going with Brandy.  One of my friends here is a totaly like a you know a like totaly like a baberham lincoln dude! bonus!!!!!!!!!!!! ha ha ha like totaly tubular dude!!!!!! like  fer shure dude!!!!!!!!

        



          please write back, your pals
               Brian Smith (other wise known as cousin it)
               Jason (the killer) Maier
               Danielle Parks (the girl from another planet)  
               Ashley (other wise known as Jan) Brady
               Jeremy (the totaly awesome soccer player dude!) Barry


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From: Andrew.Probert@f20.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Andrew Probert)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tag
Subject: GIFTED CHILDREN
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 18:30:12 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/20 - IBM NZ Ltd Gate, Auckland

Hello, everybody. My name is Andrew. I am 24 years old. I presently live in 
the southern isles, i.e. NEW ZEALAND. I was what I guess you would call a gifted child. We do have a rudimentary program for teaching children with higher than average abilities ( academically or musically,etc.) here in NZ. Unfortunately the program is not very developed within schools. FOr the most part parents who wish to extend children who are 'GIFTED' need to take their children out of the school system, at least until the children reach high school or what we in NZ call 'Secondary School' age. I was 




fortunate in that my parents were both willing to encourage me, but not to overencourage me, i.e. they let me develop at my own pace. Also I went to a High School which believed in the separate development of children with better abilities in some 
academic areas. I am presently studying Law and Economics at University.
I have been classified by numerous teachers, etc. over the years as a true Lateral thinker. That is , my forte is not in any one specialised area of human endeavour, but is rather in the forming of linkages between these various areas. I only came to this realisation about myself quite recently
( that is, I personally had not fully realised what I was and what I could 
do). I now wish that in my early learning I had been specifically trained in the art of Generalising or Synthesis. I will now have to train myself in this ability, if I am to develop its full potential.
I believe that many of the users of this particualar 'echo' are teachers in the U.S.A. I would be very interested in learning if the art of Synthesis or Lateral Thinking is taught to children gifted in this ability, in American 
schools. I would also welcome a discussion about the education of Gifted 
Children in general, having myself been a gifted child, so to speak.
     Thanks, Andrew.



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From: Sheila.King@f315.n103.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila King)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tag
Subject: HOME EDUCATION           
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 10:31:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:103/315 - Castle of the Four , Diamond Bar CA

Judi,

I saw your message to Lori Loranger, and I do not propose to be able to
answer any of the questions you put to her.

It's just that I haven't seen her post in this area in quite some time.
I *hope* she will see your message and answer it, but just in case she
didn't, I didn't want you to get turned off to this type of computer
communication, because you weren't getting resonses to your mail.

Maybe someone else will also see your message and respond!

Sheila
coming to you from Diamond Bar, CA (in Los Angeles County)
                                                                                                               

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From: Jack.Loflin@p0.f721.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Loflin)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tag
Subject: Re: GIFTED ED.
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:30:48 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/721.0 - McMinnville K12Net, McMinnville OR

I agree with you on having to do with too much on the special ed. I have 
ben a tag student for some time and have not done much.



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From: Carol.Hooper@f64.n381.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Hooper)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tag
Subject: Re: MathMagic
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 20:48:44 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:381/64 - Academy K12 Net, El Paso TX

Hi, Jack.  Sure, you can join.  First, though, can you look and see if 
you have the ability to read and answer messages in Channel 2.  Ask 
your sysop if you need help.  Thanks, Carol


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From: Jack.Loflin@p0.f721.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Loflin)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tag
Subject: Re: Special Education (handicapped students)
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:19:12 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/721.0 - McMinnville K12Net, McMinnville OR

HI Curt!!!
My mom works with handicapped students here in McMinnville Oregon. If 
you would like her to reply please let me know as soon as possible.



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From: John.Ballou@f75.n2608.z1.fidonet.org (John Ballou)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tag
Subject: Universe Quiz II
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 14:12:26 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2608/75 - Norkids BBS, Norwood NY

     I'm unsure how to respond to your Universe Quiz II.  I believe I have the correct answer but by telling you over this medium I may be revealing the answer to others.  Although they would be unsure that my answer is correct, the answer my lead them to other conclusions.  I also don't have the capability to send you the answer privately.  What should I do?should I do?
                                      John Ballou


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From: Gordon.Benedict@f49.n134.z1.fidonet.org (Gordon Benedict)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tag
Subject: Projects using K12 Net
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 22:17:36 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/49 - The Student Exchang, Calgary Alta

      Hi Barb,

 BF> I am interested in using K12 Net to gather information
 BF> to answer questions for class projects.  Is there 
 BF> anyone else out there who would like to expose their 
 BF> students to this information resource?

     You might want to post your request in the K12 Projects
     echo and in K12 Teacher Chat.  You didn't mention what
     type of info you are looking for.  You'll find that
     providing specific details will solicit a better response.

     Good luck,

     Gord


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From: Judi.Coons@f218.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Judi Coons)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tag
Subject: home education
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 09:46:54 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/218 - K12Net Mail Server, Lanesboro MA

Hello Lori.
 
I am a home educating parent in Massachusetts. I have three children at home. I am very new to this concept  of computers. I am getting help from
the computer teacher at my local  elementary school. 
  
How is the home education atmosphere in Washington? What type of evaluation methods are you allowed to use in Washington? Do you have to comply with home visitation?
 
How are your local support groups set up? Or, are you involved in a state wide organization? I run a local  support group for a group of about twenty home educating families. One activity our group does is to meet every Friday for an hour of activites in a gymnasium and then we all go swimming for an hour. What type of activities do you do with other homeschoolers? 
 
Since this is computer "stuff" is new to me I will end here and regroup.
 
Thanks for reading my message. Hope to hear back from you. 
 
Judi


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From: Shawn.Komar@f208.n326.z1.fidonet.org (Shawn Komar)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tag
Subject: Puzzle
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 13:59:40 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:326/208 - Street Corner BBS, Bath ME

Ok All .. here is a 'nifty' little puzzle for you. (It's really kind of easy 
but it'll get you thinking ..
** How many statements are false/true? **

1. Exactly one statement is false.
2. Exactly two statements are false.
3. Exactly three statements are false.
4. Exactly four statements are false.
5. Exactly five statements are false.
6. Exactly six statements are false.
7. Exactly seven statements are false.
8. Exactly eight statements are false.
9. Exactly nine statements are false.
10. Exactly ten statements are false.

Enjoy,
                                                           -= Komar =-

- Origin: A Fishing Hole (1:229/410)
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From: Stephen.Gillis@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Stephen Gillis)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tag
Subject: Re: TEACHER EDUCATION
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:41:28 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

Thanks for the reply, Harriett.  What is the Foxfire approach, I have
not encountered that one.  Your group sounds similar to mine, I have
children from grades one to six.  Until now my 1/4 time job (the other
3/4 of the time iteach regular class) was general enrichment.  This year I am
conccentrating on a small group from six different elementary schools.
We meet on Thursday mornings.  Last week was our first gathering.  I had 
them complete Renzulli's Interest a lyzer to try and get a feel for their 
interest.  I have access to some computers and they seem to be egar to
get some hands on time.   Would you and your group be interested in
excccchanging notes over this system?  Perhaps your students would find 
Atlantic Canada remote enough to beof interest.  Do you have your students on 
line?   In the past year we have had great fun with science olympics, a 
woorkshop called "Be an Inventor"  and a study of bridge structures in the 
area.  We especially liked our covered bridges.
Keep in touch and forgive the typing and spelling errors, my thoughts are 
faster than my fingers!

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From: Jack.Loflin@p0.f721.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Loflin)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tag
Subject: Re: MathMagic
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:57:39 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/721.0 - McMinnville K12Net, McMinnville OR

I'm very interested in MATHMAGIC. I live in Mcminnville Oregon and hace 
not heard anything about MATHMAGIC. I have ben a TAG student since I was 
in fourth grade now I'm in sixth. I have not done anything outside of 
the normal criculam and I was told that I would do a lot of other stuff.
If you have any more information on MATHMAGIC please contact me.



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