From: slkg9733@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven L. Kellmeyer)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Yea, SURE IT'S VERBATIM! (Was: What pro-lifers don't tell you)
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:19:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux1.1992Apr8.001959.27280
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

rivk@quads.uchicago.edu (nora gayle rivkis) writes:

>In article <1992Apr3.012204.6777@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> kcochran@isis.cs.du.edu (Keith A. Cochran) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr2.224755.14728@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> slkg9733@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven L. Kellmeyer) writes:

>>[Deleted:  Steven shows how he never learns, and expects up to believe 40+
>>lines of "verbatim" articles.  Then...]

>>And, just to make sure that everybody understands my position on this, GET THE
>>FUCKING HITLER/NAZI/HOLOCAUST "ANALOGIES" OUT OF TALK.ABORTION.  NOW!

>Just to make sure everyone understands *my* position on this, the reason
>I have flamed everyone BUT Kellmeyer on this one is that my purpose is to
>get the references stopped; I care not how. They get stopped quicker if you
>ignore Kellmeyer's 198+ lines of total bullshit than 

If it's such "total bullshit", Nora, why the hell don't you demonstrate
how ALL of those references are incorrect?  Or how ANY of the references
provided is incorrect?  It ain't bullshit if it's documented fact.  I
provided the damned documentation, and you people STILL insist it's
"bullshit".  Well, pardon me if historical fact doesn't happen to match
your dreams or your nightmares, (I suspect that, as far as Nora is 
concerned, if the Holocaust hadn't happened, she'd be on about Masada
and Italians).

Quite frankly, you have not ONE DAMN THING YOU *CAN* REFUTE IN THAT 
ARTICLE. 

THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S TRUE.


>if you flame him; he's
>either way too stupid to get the hint or he's a genuine Nazi who's trying to
>have the effect of causing immediate heartache and future destruction to the
>people the real Nazis were trying to kill.

Look, you can call me any damn thing you want, but when you call
me a Nazi, you had DAMN well better be smiling.  If you want a real
live 21st century Nazi, take a look at the smiling face of the 
abortionist who does third tris.  SS officers finished off their training
by being compelled to strangle a cat alive.  They could have been 
trained by doing abortions much more efficiently.


>I don't know which and I don't
>care, but if I take the issue up with him again it'll be over a piece of
>middle-eastern desert with a rifle in my hands.

I suspected as much.  You would kill with no less compunction than
those bastards you claim to hate.  Has it ever occurred to you that
the Nazi legacy of hatred might live on in the people they taught 
how to hate?  And no, I'm not referring just to the Jews.  A lot
of people died by their hands, Jews predominate but not to exclusion.
A lot of people are being killed today, the economically inconvenient
predominate, but not to exclusion.

>>=kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu   

>	-Nora
>--

One last thought, Nora.  About testing for Tay-Sachs disease.  If a Nazi
really wanted to kill the Jews, it would be very simple today.  Fake
the lab results, and tell them the kid has Tay-Sachs.  Convince them
to abort and try again.  Don't bother to tell them that abortion 
increases the risk of miscarriage for succeeding pregnancies up to
8-fold.  Don't tell them it also increases the risk for maternal death
in subsequent pregnancies.  That way, if they don't come back to you
for testing NEXT time, you might still have wasted another Jew.
And it's not like he's easy to prosecute - no test is perfect and
lab "mix-ups" happen.  That's assuming the parents even bother to have
the remains tested to make sure.  If he's a fast enough talker, they'd
never even think to do that.

Steve
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