From: john@johniac.austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti)
Subject: Re: Pro-Choice
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 17:43:29 GMT
Distribution: tx
Reply-To: johniac@hwperform.austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti)
Organization: IBM Advanced Workstation Division, Austin, TX

In article <Ee2vr*3P0@caleb.UUCP>, jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug11.224152.38512@watson.ibm.com>, John Iacoletti writes:
|> > In article <qVmur*iO0@caleb.UUCP>, jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett) writes:
|> > |>                                        However, the fact is that Slick Willie has
|> > |> taken the far left line on almost every issue.
|> > 
|> > Such as . . .?
|> 
|> 1.  The VP has to pass a litmus test on abortion.  He MUST support abortions in
|>     all cases.  That is why Gore was chosen instead of Hamilton (Willie's first
|>     choice.)  Hamilton said publicly that the Pennsylvania law was reasonable.
|>     So, he was out.

That's strange considering that Al Gore doesn't even support abortion
in all cases.  As for Lee Hamilton, Clinton has never said that
Hamilton was even considered, much less rejected for his views on
abortion.  If you like to listen to rumors, how about the one
regarding George Bush and his secretary?  Finally, there's nothing
particularly "far left" about being pro-choice, as all of those
Republican surveys show.

|> 2.  He wants to raise taxes on the "rich" (actually the middle class.)

Actually he wants to lower taxes on the middle class.  This sounds
pretty centrist to me.  A "far-left" person would want to raise taxes on
the middle class too.

|> 3.  He favors DC statehood.  (i.e. 2 more liberal Senators.)

Of course this has nothing to do with the residents of D.C. having
equal representation.  The Democrats already control the Senate.  Why
bother?

|> 4.  He has a "national health insurance" plan which is basically socialized medicine
|>     with private insurance.  Instead of taxing business for this, he would simply
|>     require them to pay for it directly.

A "far-left" person would want to pay for this by raising taxes.

|> 5.  He favors environmental extremism.  (He appointed Gore VP.  Read Gore's book
|>     if you don't know how extreme he is.)

What about all that chicken-shit he let the poultry industry dump in 
Arkansas rivers?  A "far-left" person wouldn't have allowed this to
happen just to help create jobs.

|> 7.  He wants to rape the national defense in order to pay for more social programs.

He wants to CUT defense spending because we are no longer threatened
by the Soviet Union.  There's nothing "far-left" about this.  Patrick
Buchanan also wants to cut defense spending.  You can't possibly claim
to want to "reduce wasteful government spending" and yet keep
military spending at the same levels.  Clinton hasn't said that this
money would be used for social programs. 

|> 8.  He thinks the solution to the LA riots is to buy off the rioters with more
|>     of our tax dollars.

When did he say this?

|> 9.  His wife is a radical feminist.  Guess which side he'll be on there...

His WIFE won't be the president.  His WIFE isn't all that radical
despite what you hear from Rush Limbaugh and the American Spectator
smear.  There's nothing all that "far-left" about radical feminism
anyway.  Radical feminists are against pornography, for example. 
Susan B. Anthony was a Republican.

|> 11.  He thinks that adultery is ok.

I never heard him say that.

|> 12.  He was against Desert Storm (at least until the public overwhelmingly
|>      supported it.)

Lots of Democrats (including Al Gore) supported it.  I don't think it
was a "party-line" issue.  For someone who's always complaining about
"killing babies", you don't seem to care much about the Iraqi babies.

|> Is that enough for you?  If not, go research Slick Willie yourself.

Compare Clinton with say Jesse Jackson or Jerry Brown.  Jackson didn't
endorse him until the very last minute because he isn't liberal
enough.  Jerry Brown still hasn't endorsed him and may never do so. 
If Clinton is "far-left", what does that make Jackson and Brown?

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