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From: hudson@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu (David Hudson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Neil Young - Lucky Thirteen
Date: 9 Jan 93 23:19:50 GMT
Organization: UCLA Dept of Astronomy

In article <1993Jan9.183444.13404@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> cbray@nyx.cs.du.edu (chris bray) writes:
>I noticed in the upcoming album release list that neil young has a new
>album coming out called "Lucky Thirteen". The list says that is contains
>previously released stuff, and I was wondering if this happed to be
>the infamous boxed set that he was working on? If so, is it 13 CD's worth
>of stuff? I knew that he was saying that it was going to be at least ten
>or so?
>
>Anybody have any info?
>
>Thanks
>Chris Bray
>
>--
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>csb1@engr.uark.edu            |  Chris Bray
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>==============================================================================
 I took a look at this cd and it is only one cd that contains thirteen
songs from Neil Young's Geffen label era.  The tracks come from _old
Ways_, _Trans_, _life_, but there is one from _This Note's for You_.
	I didn't pick it up, but I looked at the liner notes and
noticed that many of the songs were alternate versions taken from
"Neil Young Archives 1993" on the Reprise label.  Does anybody know
more details about content or release date of these archives.  I presume
it will be the long awaited massive box set or whatever.  The "Lucky
Thirteen" compilation apparently will be extraneous once the archives
come out because all the "previously unreleased tracks" will appear in
the archive set.

David Hudson                         hudson@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu
From: ajd@oit.itd.umich.edu (Arthur Delano)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Bill Nelson's Red Noise circa 1979
Date: 5 Jan 1993 03:07:12 GMT
Organization: finchhaus
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Just today i got to listen to Bill Nelson's Red Noise
album 'Sound on Sound'.  It's good, although the hyper
energy might not hold up over a long spell.  Still, it
has an odd nervous electropop sound, like Tubeway Army
or early XTC.  My copy was Enigma's reissue on cd, and
i noticed that the longbox has a long roster of other
albums by Bill Nelson as well.  Are all these albums in 
the same style, or does he reach into other forms of
pop?  Although the name is somewhat familiar, i've never
heard anything by him before.

also -- since the Enigma label is no more, has another
record company taken over the Bill Nelson catalogue?

AjD
-- 
                       ajd@oit.itd.umich.edu
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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: djd7889@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (Douglas J. Deutsch)
Subject: Re: Sony's compilation of ELO tunes
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
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Date:  4 Jan 1993 13:50 EST  

>>a compilation of ELO tunes.  The songs were...
>>
>>	Turn to Stone
> 
>From "Out of the Blue"

Right...

> 
>>	Standing in the Rain
>From "Out of the Blue"

Right again...

>>	Living Thing  / Stranger
>L.T. is from "New World Record"
> 
>I never heard Stranger.

'Stranger' is from their 1983 _Secret Messages_ album

> 
>>	Strange Magic
> 
>From "Face the Music"

OK..

> 
>>	Hold on Tight
> 
>From "Time"

Right-o

>>	Night in the City
>From "Out of the Blue"

Yup.

>>	Do Ya / Fire on High
> 
>"Do Ya" from New World Record/ "Fire on High" from Face the Music

Correct.

>>	Rock n Roll is King
> 
>From "Discovery" 

Whoops!  'Rock 'n' Roll is King' is also from _Secret Messages_.

>>
>>Can any one give me a reason why Sony put these songs together?
> 
>For the most part, these are their "hits" with Fire on High and Turn to Stone
>their signature songs. Where is Evil Woman I wonder ?

Dunno.  No ELO compilation should be without 'Can't Get It Out Of My Head'
either.

BTW, no flame was intended, so hopefully none was taken.

> 
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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: komarimf@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Mark 'Henry' Komarinski)
Subject: Re: CARTOON MUSIC! HELP AND A CHALLENGE
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 16:53:02 GMT

David Brady <Brady_David@Tandem.Com> writes:

>In article <1993Jan7.013444.5860@Princeton.EDU> Shari L. Landes,
>shari@phoenix.Princeton.EDU writes:
>>A few weeks ago while turning the dial on my car radio, listening to
>>bits of this and bits of that, I encountered a radio show where the
>>guest was giving his opinion of the 10 best CD's of the year.  He
>>proceeded to play a snippit of two cuts off one of his favorite 1992
>>disks.  These cuts were originally made in the 1920's and 1930's and
>>through the wonders of technology they were remastered for release in
>>1992.  The music was upbeat, fast, jazzy.  Lot of clarinets.  Happy
>>music.  CARTOON music.  I'm sure I recognized these tunes as
>>background-type music for the 'toons, Warner Bros circa 1930-1940.

>You're right.

>We've had the CD at our station for a month or so.  Worth seeking out.

>Of course I can't remember the artists' name right now, but I do know you can
>buy it in Tower Records - look near the Spoken Word section of the store.  The
>CD has a sticker stating "as heard on Ren and Stimpy!".  I'll post the name
>tomorrow after I do my DJ thing tonight.

For the good stuff, get the Carl Stalling Project.  It's Looney Tunes 
music from the mid-30's all the way to 1958.  There are a few 'mixes' of
his favorite bits of music (like powerhouse, dinner music for a bunch of
hungry cannibals, etc) plus a few complete shorts.  I believe there is
a road runner, two bugs bunny, and one other short.

I got it at tape world.  Check out the tv shows section.

-Mark

--
- Mark Komarinski - komarimf@craft.camp.clarkson.edu

"...And if I have none of those deficiencies, I hope to get them sometime."
-Car Talk (on NPR)
From: shavlul@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Dan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Would like to know who wrote two techno songs
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:06:57 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


I'd like to get the 12" singles to two techno songs, but don't know
who they are written by.  The songs are "Please Don't Go" and "It's My Life".
Thanks.

					shavlul@ucscb.ucsc.edu
Xref: sparky rec.music.misc:30294 alt.music.alternative:19459
From: freedman@acsu.buffalo.edu (Paula J. Freedman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: 10,000 Maniacs' cover of "Peace Train"
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:36:36 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <C0pM8K.Gr4@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim
McKay) writes:

	                (stuff deleted)
>Personally, I think "Peace Train" regardless of who wrote it (and who they
>turned into afterwards) is a wonderful song about idealism in the same
>ball park as "Imagine" and "Morning Has Broken".  It is still uplifting to
>the human spirit, and even though I may not like who Cat has become, 
>I, artistically, would not have excluded it solely because of the Rushdie thing. 

renounced and relinquished the rights to his songs when he found
allah.  therefore, any band covering his material would not be lining
the pig's pockets.  i'm sorry to hear that 10,000M yanked the
song...natalie's beautiful voice made a classic song uniquely her own.
From: hunt@shy.umd.edu (Brian Hunt)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: "A Change is Gonna Come" (was Re: Sam Cooke/Malcom X)
Date: 12 Jan 93 08:31:55 GMT

ek1i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Eugene Kuo) writes:
>In the same vein as Srinivas's post, I was wondering what the name of
>the song was in MALCOM X that Sam Cooke sang.  It was towards the end,
>when Malcom is driving towards his last speech.  Thanks in advance! 

As someone else mentioned, the song is called "A Change is Gonna Come"
(and as he also mentioned, it's on an excellent Sam Cooke compilation
called THE MAN AND HIS MUSIC).  I could go on about how great I think
the song and the performance and the compilation (and Sam) are, but...

The reason I write is that there's an interesting story behind the
fact that the song is not mentioned in the closing credits of MALCOLM
X (nor does it appear on the soundtrack).  I read this in a brief
article in the Washington Post (which I hope I'm remaining true to--I
neglected to clip the article).  Here's what I remember:

The guy who owns the rights to Sam Cooke's music (I recognized his
name, but it escapes me now) has been very protective of this song,
feeling that it would trivialize the song to license it to whomever
asked.  In fact, it has only been licensed once before, to Martin
Luther King, Jr. (I don't remember the context in which he used it).
Many filmmakers have asked to use it (e.g. Oliver Stone for JFK) but
have been turned down.  Spike Lee apparently made a very convincing
pitch that he needed this song for this scene in MALCOLM X, and was
allowed to use it, but only under the condition that it go uncredited,
etc.

Hmm, just to make sure it's clear let me say that I don't mean to be
critical of the guy who owns the rights.  In fact, I find his attitude
kind of refreshing in this age when almost nothing is safe from
commercialization (though at the same time I'm puzzled by the
restriction on crediting the song--I'd like everyone to know that was
Sam Cooke).  In any case, I'm glad permission was granted in this
case--that scene was the high point of the movie to me.

Let me also emphasize that it is permission to use Sam Cooke's
performance of the song that I'm talking about--the song itself has
been covered many times (Otis Redding, Aretha Franklin, The Band,
Graham Parker, and the Neville Brothers come to mind--I'm sure there
are many others).

Brian Hunt
hunt@ipst.umd.edu
From: rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal Agitator)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for Record Shops in LA - any recommendations?
Date: 9 Jan 93 18:14:58 GMT
Organization: MAWL - Mudd Alums Without Lives

In article <1993Jan4.094628.3653@cs.nott.ac.uk> cczgw@unicorn.nott.ac.uk writes:
>Can anyone recommend any record shops in and around Los Angeles that are
>worthing hunting down? Also any recommendations for jean shops would be
>welcome.

I broke this up in two posts since my outlying areas list needs
updating and I don't feel like doing that now.

South Bay:

Middle Earth, Downey, Lakewood & Florence
(as a bonus, you can see the original McDonald's at the same corner  :-)

There is also a Penny Lane in Torrance, on the east side of Hawthorne,
south of Artesia and north of Del Amo and the Tower Records.

Inland Empire:

Rhino Records, Claremont, west side of Yale Ave, between 1st and Bonita

OC:

Music Market, Costa Mesa, Harbor & Adams, SW corner
Noise Noise Noise, CM, Harbor & Mesa Verde East (behind Music Market)
Vinyl Solution, Huntington Beach, east side of Beach, just north of Garfield
Record PX, Fountain Valley, Ellis & Ward, NE corner
Moby Disc, Westminster, west side of Beach, south of Bolsa, north of
	the freeway
Digital Ear, Tustin, Newport & Irvine
Hyde Park Corner, Irvine, Culver & Irvine
Bionic Records, four stores:

Orange, 3910 E. Chapman
Fullerton, 2448 E. Chapman
HB, 5942 Edinger
Cypress, 9549 Valley View

Hope this helps,

Agitator
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From: dpc2@po.CWRU.Edu (David P. Caldwell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Enigma
Date: 12 Jan 1993 16:22:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: dpc2@po.CWRU.Edu (David P. Caldwell)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, mritchie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael S Ritchie) says:

>In article <1993Jan11.173444.17167@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> ajwnet@cbnewsm.cb.att.co
>m (andrew.j.west) writes:

regarding Enigma

>>I was wondering if there are other groups
>>out there with similar sounds.

>Try Dead Can Dance; they have at least one CD available in the
>USA with more past ones on the way (so I understand).  

     I second this recommendation; they do have several CDs available in
the U.S.  The most Enigma-ish stuff you can find, plus if you dig there's
more to the songs than the sound, which doesn't seem to be true for Enigma.
DISCLAIMER:  That doesn't mean that there's nothing to Enigma's songs;
there may be, I just haven't been able to figure it out.  No flames please,
though if you do understand what they mean, let me know.

>--Michael
>

...Babbitt
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From: harsha@ksr.com (Paul Harsha)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: "Kids in the Hall" theme info wanted
Date: 4 Jan 93 18:25:48 EST

dthompson@vixvax.mgi.com writes:

>Can anyone tell me the title/artist/etc. of the instrumental (guitars) that
>is played during the opening credits of the TV show "The Kids in the Hall"?


The group is "Shadowy Men on a Shadowy Planet."  They list it in the closing
credits.

--
   Paul Harsha (harsha@ksr.com)               Kendall Square Research Corp.
From: jd10002@eng.cam.ac.uk (J. Dobbs)
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: Re: Blue eyed dub
Keywords: "Dub me tender, dub me sweet"
Date: 7 Jan 93 05:37:32 GMT
Organization: cam.eng

brooks@ico.isc.com (Chris Brooks) writes:


>I realize that white boy dub can be construed to be a rip-off of real dub, but I
>find some of it quite good, eg.

>	1) Clash - "Black Market Clash"
>		Actually, side 2: Bankrobber Dub, etc.
>		There is also some on "Sandinista" (eg. One More Time/Dub)

>	2) African Head Charge and related
>		There is an early variant of these guys called the "New Age 
>		Steppers" who do some great dub in the form of "Love Forever"
>		and "Fade Away".

>CBB

I agree wholeheartedly with the "white middle-class male shouldn't have
dreadlocks" sentiment, so it irks me when they produce some damn fine
reggae (note that I'm thinking of the likes of R.D.F. here, rather than
UB40 - a w.m-c.m has to have some credibility).

I also agree that the "New Age Steppers" album (fuzzy tape, actually) I have
here is a worth tracking donw. It goes by the title "Foundation Steppers" and
the track listing is:- Some Love; Memories; 5 Dog Race; Misplaced Love;
Dreamers; Stabilizer; Stormy Weather; Vice of my Enemies; Mandarin. Tracks
1,5 and 7 are IMHO outstanding. So, does anyone know what happened to the band?
It was news to me that they became African Head Charge, in fact I'd never
heard of African Head Charge before I read this article? Were they Brits?
Do they tour? Anyone seen them?

Some more trivia concerning The Clash, culled from my hazy, holographic
memory - there's a dead famous recording studio in Jamaica where all the
greats who recorded there have got their faces on a mural on the wall
(anybody care to name it? - i've forgotten). The Clash are the only white folks
on it - credit where credit's due, is what I say.

And another thing about us palefaces (I'm assuming everybody who sits in 
front of a terminal long enough to reach this far has a pale-face, right?) - 
can somebody explain how and why we can become rastafarians. An ex-rasta
(black, African) once told me something about the Lost Tribe of Israel being
a sort of entry visa for anyone unfortunate enough to be born of the wrong
race, but didn't really make much sense to me (bit like rastafarianism;-).
Sorry zealots, I'm a bit of a of a religous sceptic. Please, no flaming.
Prehaps some knowledgable soul could start a new thread about rasta'ism, so
at least I knew what I didn't believe.

	That's it, bye
		J-J-J-J-J-J-Jason
From: kburns@hydra.unm.edu (Kevin Burns...math)
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: The Wailers
Date: 10 Jan 1993 19:12:30 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra.unm.edu

     I highly recommend the Wailers.  There are several of the same musicians
     who played with Bob.  They play about half 'n' half Bob's old tunes
     and their new material.  Exciting show!
                                                   Kevin
From: mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: Shabba on UK TV
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:11:22 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

Some ragamuffin news (for the yardies)

Caught Shabba Ranks on Channel 4 in the UK several weeks ago on one of those
trendy programs.  Along with him was Gerald "Bogle" Levy, originator of the
bogle dance and all the spin offs, showing off his latest moves.

They went to a piece in Jamaica on Buju Banton, concerning the controversy
generated by his hit single "Boom Bye Bye".  For those who don't know, boom bye
bye expresses disgust at homosexuality and exhorts shooting said practitioners. 
The Anti-Defamation League in NY and Gay/Lesbian groups in the UK successfully
lobbied for it's banning from radio play-lists.

Anyway Buju was reasonably contrite and said he didn't really mean any violence
and he was just relating this to his culture.  The interviewer gives him a
ticking off in the voice-over then we cut back to Shabba in the studio.  The
interviewer in the studio then asks Shabba for his views on this.

He too expresses disgust at gays and labels it a contravention of "God's laws"
and prescribes penalties for gays.  The interviewer looks shocked and starts a
heated argument with Shabba which is broken up by another studio member.  Since
Shabba has anti-gay lyrics in many of his songs you would have thought the
interviewers would at least be aware of his position on this.

Moral of the story; not all the reggae songs you hear are about life in Trench
Town or three little birds singing.

Oh, they've banned the video for Slow and Sexy in the UK, (Shabba/Johnny Gill
release).  Seems like there were one too many scantily clad women in the video.

McBean
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
From: rnelson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu (Robert Nelson)
Subject: Re: Who was Selassie? (was Re: Annoyances)
Organization: Marriott Library, University of Utah
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:42:50 GMT

In article <C0Iq4D.GCw@news.iastate.edu> locher@iastate.edu (Robert C Locher) writes:
>From: locher@iastate.edu (Robert C Locher)
>Subject: Who was Selassie? (was Re: Annoyances)
>Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 04:36:12 GMT
>mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>
>>> can somebody explain how and why we can become rastafarians.
>
>>basic rule is for you to believe that Haile Selassie was God on earth.
>
>Can somebody tell me who Haile Selassie was?  Wasn't he the ruler of
>Ethiopia or something?  How did the rastafarians come to believe that he
>was God on earth?  What does all this have to do with Jamaica and
>reggae?
>
>Please excuse my ignorance, I'm just curious.
>
>				- Rob
I would suggest reading Leonard Barrett's The Rastafarians.  It describes 
the social and historical basis of Ras Tafari/Selassie worship in Jamaica.
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
From: ujhennin@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (James Henning)
Subject: Re: CaribSat (repost)
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:55:36 GMT

In article <1ia2gsINNj16@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel) writes:
>
>Thanks to the person who mentioned the Caribbean Satellite Network.  
>I was home for X-mas and watched it on my parent's satellite (G3 7). 
>Ted....

Could someone please post coordinates.  I don't see G3 7 on my satellite
listings.

                              - Jim


Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
From: dmorton@silver.ucs.indiana.edu ( )
Subject: Bad Brains
Keywords: Suggestions?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:25:54 GMT



I know that Bad Brains probably isn't considered pure Reggae b/c of
their punk origins but nonetheless I'm posting this here for lack of a
better newsgroup. I'm a little short of money so I've had to cut down on
my CD addiction. This means that I need some suggestions on what's good
instead of just buying anyhting with a nice cover. Anybody have some
expertise on Bad Brains? I currently have Quickness and Rock for Light
and would like some info on what to get next. Thanks... -Dan

-- 
"Awright, let's forget the bullshit and get on with the so-called art"
                      --  Charles Bukowski  --
From: derrick@meaddata.com (Derrick Tatem)
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: Re: Haile Selassie
Date: 8 Jan 1993 12:58:24 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Distribution: na
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mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:

>> can somebody explain how and why we can become rastafarians.

>basic rule is for you to believe that Haile Selassie was God on earth.

>Can somebody tell me who Haile Selassie was?  Wasn't he the ruler of
>Ethiopia or something?  How did the rastafarians come to believe that he
>was God on earth?  What does all this have to do with Jamaica and
>reggae?

>Please excuse my ignorance, I'm just curious.


To answer some of your questions, if my mind serves me right:
Before he was name Haile Selassie, he was name Ras Tafari Makonnen. He claimed
that his roots went all the way back to Solomon and Sheba.

Some of Marcus Garvey followers looked to the New Testament for a god and they
believe that Haile Selassie was the god that Marcus Garvey prophesied about.
They then adopted the name Ras Tafari as their new religion, hence Rastafari,
Rastaman, etc...

Well reggae was born in Jamaica.

I might not have all my facts straight so, please correct me if I left
something out or wrote something wrong. I hope this helps.


--
Derrick M. Tatem
Mead Data Central, Dayton, Ohio
Internet: derrick@meaddata.com
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Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
From: mike@jammin.nosc.mil (mike pawka)
Subject: Re: faq
Organization: NRaD
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:24:12 GMT

	In response to queries about an faq, I'm putting together a "reggae
archives", which will have an faq, patois dictionary, pics, lyrics, etc. Watch
for a posting soon. In light of this, can anyone send me the postings about the
dub recommendations, I wanted to make that the first question on the faq, but
lost the articles.


                                      mike pawka   systems programmer 
                                      NRaD San Diego mike@jammin.nosc.mil
                                      cool runnings mon!