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From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: blocked tear ducts
Date: 29 Jul 92 07:11:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: gators 'r us
X-Version: Rodney's UUCP modules 02/11/90 V1.18


In article <1992Jul27.145231.1225@europa.asd.contel.com> draper@gnd1.wtp.contel.com
(PAM DRAPER) writes:
> 
> Does anyone know of a home treatment for blocked tear ducts.  My mother's
> 12 year old persian has been having excessive tearing (way more than
> usual).  At the vet, to clear the ducts they put the animal under
> anesthesia.  We believe she is too old and delicate for this.
> 
> If anyone knows of home remedies, we would certainly be glad to hear from
> you.

my 12 year old persian mix has had this since i found her as a stray kitten.
my vet though it was caused by scarring from a respiratory virus she had when i
found her.  he said surgery would be expensive, and involve cutting her face
open and leave ugly scars.  he advised against it.

he prescribed a soothing antibiotic eye ointment.  i applied it faithfully for 
a while and found it didn't help much, so i stopped.  now i mostly ignore it.
her eye leaks tears(normally the tear ducts drain excess tears down the nose, 
which is why crying makes us sniffle).  the discharge gets sticky and sometimes
it's a faint bloody pink, with dried blood in her nose.  but it seems painless
and only bothers her when it gets messy and she can't groom it away.

what i do, when it bothers her or the sight of it grosses me out, it to take a
cotton ball or tissue, soaked in warm water and then wrung out, and gently 
wipe the yukkies away.  this may be all you need.

--
-- little gator aka s. mudgett     email: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Tapeworms (yuck!)...
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:08:57 GMT
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <92004@bu.edu>, reyes@buphyd.bu.edu (Jinara Reyes) writes:
> Greetings everyone!...I adopted a stray cat last December, and just 
> noticed that she has tapeworms. (Yuck!--talk about gross!)
> The vet gave me a small pill to give her, and I was just wondering if anyone else has had a problem with worms. Does this 
> small pill really work??? (It had better--it took me half an hour to get
> my cat to swallow it!)....My cat (BC) is an indoor cat, but she was
> about a year old when I found her. I am assuming that she had the worms from 
> then. Fortunately, she shows no ill effects from them.

Chances are the pill was Droncit, and it works wonderfully.  I think I've
heard the mode of action for Droncit was that it essentially made the
"skin" of the tapeworm permeable to digestive juices, and the cat
simply digests the critter... anyhow, it's a whole lot better (in
effectiveness and lack of toxicity) than the tapeworm treatments I
remember from my childhood (I think butyl chloride was one -- and
it caused vomiting).

Tapeworms infect a cat in one of two ways: either they eat a critter
infected with tapeworm cysts, or they eat an infected flea.  Because
tapeworm lifecycles (like most parasitic worms) are complicated and 
bizarre, direct cat-to-cat (or cat-to-people) transmission does not
occur.

Droncit is also available as a single injection -- about the same price
as pills at my vets.  Less struggle in some instances.

Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI
 
Xref: sparky rec.pets.cats:8719 rec.gardens:5284
From: langston@langston.cs.utk.edu (Mike Langston)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,rec.gardens
Subject: Re: flea control
Date: 22 Jul 92 01:32:56 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Tennessee
Distribution: world
Reply-To: langston@langston.cs.utk.edu (Mike Langston)
NNTP-Posting-Host: langston.cs.utk.edu
Keywords: flea

brad christofferson writes:

> We have...a small child...
   <stuff about cats and fleas deleted>
> We are going to...spray the yard with either Dursban or Sevin...

youch -- you should be advised that the active ingredient in 
dursban is extremely toxic

-- mike
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: maxwell@venice.sedd.trw.com (Debra Maxwell)
Subject: Flying kitty
Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:21:56 GMT


My oldest cat, Squirt (one year july 24th), is quite
graceful.  When she jumps it is as if she is flying
through the air (she is quite aware of how graceful
she is 8-) ).  I have seen her jump into and onto
places I thought to be impossible.  I thought I had
seen it all, then last night I was up watching
Star Trek: The Next Generation :^) and she was sitting
on my computer table (standard size).  My computer
table sits right next to my hallway door, which opens
out towards the table.  The door always stands open.
I heard her "Mom, look at me" meow, so I look over
to see her jump from the table to the
top of the door.  I couldn't believe it.  She had
perfect balance.  There was no scratching to get
up on the top of the door.  I mean lets face it
she only had about an inch or so to land on and
she made it without so much as slip.  This has
become her favorite resting spot.  She sits up
there and surveys her kingdom.  My other 2 aren't
so dexterious (one is too fat, the other is too
young) so they just watch in amazement.
She is soooooo smug about it, she looks down on
them as if they are inferior.  I guess why
she is the queen of the roust.

Debi...owned by Squirt, Squeak, Scooter


Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: agc@cci632.cci.com (Anupama Chathampally - co-op)
Subject: Help! Need advice on adopting a cat
Organization: [Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:00:16 GMT


I love cats and want to adopt one from the humane society.  I am
interested in getting an older cat.  My main concern is for the lonliness
of the cat.  I live in an apt and the cat would be alone all day while I am
at work.  I don't have room for two cats in the apt.  I thought an older cat
could maybe adjust better to being alone all day but I'm not sure.  Should I
just forget it?  I need advice!!!! Thanks.
       

                                          Anu ( cat-deprived )
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: rms8340@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: cat toys ideas
Reply-To: rms8340@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:33:41 GMT

> He seems to have acquired the knack of taking his collar
>off himself.  I've put it on about as tightly as comfort and health would
>indicate, and still it comes off.  I've seen him working on it, and there
>is nothing frantic about it.  Just him sitting there tugging on the tag and
>buckle assembly with his front paw.  And trying to bite it as best he can.
>I image that eventually he must get a claw into the soft material of the
>collar near the buckle.  With enough patience, he seems to be able to take
>it off about as well as a human can.  I imagine that I'll have to sew the
>collar on with a bit of wire or something.  The funny thing is that he now
>regards his collar as a toy.  I found him this morning with his collar in
>his front paws, off, chewing on the tag.  *sigh*  (It was kind of cute,
>though. ;)
>
>-- 
>| Daniel Briggs  (dbriggs@nrao.edu)


But Daniel, why does your cat *HAVE TO* wear a collar? If he's an indoor
cat, he doesn't really need one, and if he is an outdoor cat, one of these
days he'll get his paw stuck in the collar and not be able to take it out
until he comes home to you.  (This is not meant to be a nasty-note)

	Bobbie, the perplexed
From: syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: What kind of kitten do I have?
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:52:23 GMT
Reply-To: syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.pets.cats, lbrown@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Latonya Brown) writes:
>Description:  She is Black and Brown Striped.  She also has a Greyish
>White Splotch under her neck and on her breast area.  Her hair has
>two layers the black and brown stripes are about half anx inch long
>then theres this other layer(of sorts) that is black and slick and about
>one inch long.  It looks like she has static cling.  The shorter layer
>is very fluffy and soft.
>
>Please help I dont know what Kind she is it would be nice to know.
>
>TONYA BROWN
 
She sounds a lot like one of my five.  Muffin has spots where she is striped
but mostly she is white, with the exception of a small dirt spot on her nose.
I would say you have a mixture, part domestic short hair and with the long
hair it could be several breeds (Persian/Himalayan/Maine Coon etc).  Tigger
is part Persian/Maine Coon and Calico, she starts out with short hair at the
top of her head and it gets longer as it progresses down her body.  A very
wild looking cat.  It doesn't really matter what the mixture, she is your
cat and she will take every opportunity to let you know.  Welcome to the
world of being owned by a feline.

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From:  (Stephannie M. Piro)
Subject: Re: HELP! My central A/C smells like a literbox!
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 17:46:18 EDT
Organization: The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Followup-To: rec.pets.cats

In article <1992Jul15.150434.6373@fs7.ece.cmu.edu>,
george@fornax.ECE.CMU.EDU (George Cebulka) wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello All:
>     Well, the subject line pretty much sums it up. Does anyone know of a way to
> remove cat odor from a central A/C? One or more of my cats done a number 1
> throughout the basement and possibly on the furnace-A/C. I'm in the process of
> scrubbing down the floors and walls with a solution of bleach and spic-n-span.
> Does anyone know if there is something on the market that will remove/neutralize
> the smell?
>         Thanks in advance
>                 George.

I don't know how to fix this problem, but I'll gladly ask my mother. 
There's
a favorite story in our family about my brother doing this as a little boy
because he didn't want to walk to the bathroom in the middle of the night. 
My
mother kept scrubbing and cleaning and wondering why it would get better,
and then suddenly be awful again.  The mystery was solved when he was
caught in the act.!!!

Stephannie
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty)
Subject: Re: more on Slinky and the new kitten
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation -- Denver, Colorado
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 05:35:26 GMT

loosemore-sandra@CS.YALE.EDU (Sandra Loosemore) writes:
: 
: BTW, Nerfball is a brown tabby with white markings but the tabby
: pattern has spots instead of solid stripes.  I've never seen a spotted
: cat before -- is he some kind of mutant?  It's actually kind of cute.
: 
Alice is a spotted gray tabby. She reminds me of a wild cat (Cerval, I
think).  Her spots are in rows on her sides, about quarter sized.  She
has white belly and paws.


Kathy
From: peggys@orca.TEKTRONIX.COM
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: coloring name?
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:45:36 GMT
Reply-To: peggys@orca.wv.tek.com
Organization: Network Displays Manufacturing, Tektronix,Inc

In article <1992Jul23.172531.22193@tellab5.tellabs.com>,
pauls@tellabs.com (Paul Silver) writes:
> From: pauls@tellabs.com (Paul Silver)
> Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
> Subject: coloring name?
> Date: 23 Jul 92 17:25:31 GMT
> Organization: Tellabs, Inc., Lisle, IL
> 
> What do you call a cat coloring with this description?
> 
> The cat's underside (belly, front of neck, inner-side of legs) is
> white, as is part of her face.  Her topside (back, back of neck, top
> of head, tail, outside of legs) is smoky-brown (a very washed out
> looking brown color) with faint black tabby striping.
> 
> I know this is some variation on the calico, since there's 3 colors,
> but I want to know if there's some special name for a coloring like
> this.
> 
> -- 
>    "Life is inhuman when you are too old to be young." -Bill Nelson
>    --------------------------------------------------------------------
>   /       Paul Silver          /         Dischord Records            /
>  /     pauls@tellabs.com      /    putting the D.C. in harDCore     /
> --------------------------------------------------------------------  
>    All opinions expressed are strictly my own, unless I stole them.

Paul,
I recently bought a jigsaw puzzle that is of about 30 different cats & on
the back of the box it has each figure in the puzzle numbered with a 
description of the cat pictured.  I found what sounds like your cat & it says
it is a "tabby & white bicolor"...very pretty too!

					Peggy

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From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: what do you think?
Date: 29 Jul 92 07:17:44 GMT
Distribution: rec.pets.cats
Organization: gators 'r us
X-Version: Rodney's UUCP modules 02/11/90 V1.18



In article <1992Jul28.145613.15459@super.org> judith@super.org
(Judith D. Schlesinger) writes:
> 
> 
>     "Making dough" is what I've always called it.
> 
i call it "kneading" but i pronounce the silent "k"

(kneading is something done by knittens)
--
-- little gator aka s. mudgett     email: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: julia@amc.com (Julia Haviland)
Subject: Re: The possibility of XYY cats
Organization: Applied Microsystems, Redmond, WA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:34:08 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.121723.56@gems.vcu.edu> ktruett@gems.vcu.edu writes:
>It would be almost impossible for a cat or human to have a XYY chromosomes.
>
>For a cat (or person) to be XXY, there are two possibilities:
>1.  Non-dysjunction (see below) in mother so that the egg's chromosomal 
>    complement is XX.  Normal paternal chromosome so that the sperm's 
>    chromosomal complement is Y (or X).  Thus the offspring is (XXY or XXX).
>2.  Non-dysjuction in father so that the sperm's chromosomal complement is XY.  
>    Normal maternal complement so that the egg's chromosomal complement is X.
>    Thus the offspring is XXY.
>Because the father does not have two Y chromosomes, it is not possible for him 
>to give his son YY, thus making the possibility of XYY very small.
>
>Kim Truett
>Dept. of Human Genetics
>Medical College of Virginia

Well, this is overstating the rareness of XYY males, at least in humans,
considerably.  Non-disjunction during meiosis I, the first meiotic division,
of the Y chromosome occurs producing sperm with a YY completment.  In
_Elements of Medical Genetics_, by Alan Emery, 1975  Edition, males with a 
XYY complement occur approximately 1 in 1000 live births in humans, a similar 
frequency to other sex chromosome anomalies.  At one time, such men were
thought to be hyper-aggressive, tall, and prone to violence.  In some court
cases, the extra Y was used as a defense, i.e. the trial of Richard Speck who 
killed 8 nurses in Chicago in 1965, who was later shown to have a normal 
chromosome set..  Later studies have found men with no propensity for
violence, no abormalities, normal intellegence, and normal children.

I don't know how common XYY is in cat, there is no obvious reason it should
be any more or less common than in humans.
-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: lpj@col.hp.com (Laura Johnson)
Subject: Re: Commuter Cat
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:37:25 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

Improving a cat's car rides:
1. Find a radio station he likes (no, really!). Lots of people on rec.
pets.dogs say that dogs like country music; maybe your cat has a 
preference too.
2. Experiment with ventilation alternatives (windows up vs. down, a/c on
or not, vent fan speeds). On a crosscountry trip with Katie-cat, we 
found that she *hated* having the air conditioner on (yowled) but was
calmer if we shut it off and opened vents and windows. (She was crated.)
We were pretty annoyed since it was Kansas and August, but the heat was
better than the yowling most of the time.

-LJ.
-- 
lpj@hpctdls.col.hp.com
Opinions expressed are my own, but may be licensed for a nominal fee.

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: rivkin@watson.bms.com (Teresa Rivkin)
Subject: Re: I've got a fetcher.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Bristol Myers Squibb Pharmaceutical Research Institute
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 19:04:00 GMT

Yes, we've got a fetcher too.  Since Arpeggio thinks he's a dog anyway, it 
isn't surprising that he like to fetch.  The strange thing is, he only likes 
to fetch little pieces of paper that have been folded over and over and over 
again until they are a little square.  If you start crumbling up a piece of 
paper in front of him, his eyes light up like Christmas trees!  He sort of 
huddles down on his hind legs, getting in position, ready to spring up after 
the paper when you through it.  He WILL NOT fetch ANYTHING other than these  
little folded up pieces of paper, though.  I think it's because he can very 
easily pick them up in him mouth to bring them back.

Terri Rivkin
Xerox Network Systems Manager
Bristol-Myers Squibb
Rivkin@bms.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: pauls@tellabs.com (Paul Silver)
Subject: Re: Garbage Kitty
Organization: Tellabs, Inc., Lisle, IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 23:54:51 GMT

The way I solved the problem of keeping Fugazi out of the trash when
she was a kitten was two-fold:

(1) get a garbage can with a lid
(2) put weights in the bottom of the can.  I have somewhere around
    30 lbs. in there.  There's no way she can tip that can over!

-- 
   "Life is inhuman when you are too old to be young." -Bill Nelson
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   All opinions expressed are strictly my own, unless I stole them.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: amd@space.mit.edu (Ann M. Davis)
Subject: Re: Commuter Cat
Reply-To: amd@space.mit.edu (Ann M. Davis)
Organization: MIT Center for Space Research
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:26:59 GMT


>, bicker@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (The Resource, Poet-Magician of Quality) writes:
> 
> !bicker is on medication that he is required to take once every 12
> hours (for the rest of his life).  Consequently, I now need to bring

Poor Kitty :-(


> him with me wherever I go.  He doesn't like travelling by car much,
> meowing like there's not tomorrow.  I do let him run around the car a
> bit, showing him the way to the carrier whenever we're getting close to
> a tollbooth.  (I live in New Jersey, so that's rather often.)
> 
> I'd appreciate any advice on making his trip more enjoyable.
> 
My sisters cat meows LOUDLY when in the kitty carrier.  For longer trips
this is somewhat unbearable.  Now, she just puts a harness on the cat
when she takes her in the car.  She ties the leash to the seatbelt to
keep it anchored.  This makes the kitty happy. She can wander around
the car, but you don't have to worry about her getting loose.  The harness
also gives you something to grap if the cat gets in the way.  This I know
from experience.

I was taking the cat over to my place because my sister was going on vacation.
I was going around a rotary (that's a roundabout if you're English, or funny 
intersections with an island in the middle of them for you non-New Englanders),
and I was shifting, clutching, and watching traffic.  The cat decided this
was the perfect time to look out the driver's side window.  AAGH!  The
harness provided a very nice handle with which to grab the cat.

Hope this helps.

	Ann
--
Ann M. Davis
amd@space.mit.edu			 "Choose your battles wisely"
MIT Center for Space Research
From: davek@informix.com (David Kosenko)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Litter box placement:  suggestions needed
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:33:32 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Jul22.140936.16044@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> bcarl@ccscola.Columbia.NCR.COM (Brian Carl) writes:
>My wife and I are about to move into a new house, and are hard up for
>a good place to put the kitty's box.  It's one of those "domed" kind,
>so smell isn't really a problem, but she tends to drag a fair bit of
>sand out with her after she finishes, so it's still messy.
[ No good place in the new house for the cat box ]

If you are a bit handy with wood & tools, you might try what I am
planning to do:  Build a normal looking chest with a cat-sized entrance
at one end, and put the cat box in there.  It looks like furniture.  I
plan on building mine big enough to have an area in front of the cat box
hole where some plastic grass type material (like on welcome mats) can
be placed to reduce tracking.  The hinged lid of a chest makes removing
the cat box for cleanup a snap.  The hold might look a bit odd, but
judicious placement (say, facing a wall - though obviously not up against
it) should make it less obvious.


If you can't build something like this from scratch, you might look for
some sort of chest that you could take a saw to to make an opening.


$.02 for the kitty...

Dave
--
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: judith@super.org (Judith D. Schlesinger)
Subject: Re: what do you think?
Organization: Supercomputing Research Center (Bowie, MD)
Distribution: rec.pets.cats
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:56:13 GMT

    "Making dough" is what I've always called it.


Judith and Charlie and Sarah
From: maxfield@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joan C. Maxfield)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: microencapsulated pyrethrins
Date: 23 Jul 92 05:01:07 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

Well, I just wanted to add my bit about fleas.  We got infested again
this year.  I assume Spot, Dan, and I are bringing them in from
outside with us.  I didn't think too much about it untill I started
getting bit.  Now it's WAR!  I started with Borax.  I know it's not
the greatest but it seemed better than most of the nasties I could be
spraying.  That didn't help too much, so it was on to step 2, the BIG
GUNS.  Dan vaccumed while I gave the cats baths.  Then I sprayed the
carpets with "Raid Flea Killer Plus".  The can was about $5.  It has
Precor and will kill newly hatched eggs for 4 months.  And the best
part was that it smelled GOOD!  Dan hates when I spray the kitty condo
with Blockade because it reeks so bad.  He didn't complain about this
at all.  (he also won't let me bomb because of his fish but thats
another story)  I think this did it.  I am also going to sprinkle a
little borax just for good measure and hope for the best.  I haven't
been bitten since!  btw I also spray my kitties with Blockade (eep
NO!) and have never had a problem with toxicity (except to fleas!)
it's the stuff the vet keeps selling me that makes them sick!

Joan

-- 
J. C. Maxfield				maxfield@athena.cs.uga.edu
DISCLAIMER:  I don't speak for the University, but they often speak for me!