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From: elmquist@pez.ssesco.com (Chris Elmquist)
Subject: Does VH-1 downlink in Stereo ?
Organization: SSESCO
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:55:31 GMT

I don't have a ground station (yet)...  but I was noticing that VH-1 on
our cable system is not distributed with stereo audio.  I'm trying to
determine if this a local phenomenon (ie, the Cable Co is too cheap to
modulate it in stereo) or is it not carried in stereo from the source...

It seems a little strange that a music video broadcaster would not be
transmitting stereo audio these days.  MTV, CMTV are all stereo on the
cable here...  just VH-1 that isn't.

Thanks for any comments--

Chris


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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 11:40:14 EST
From:         Bill Jones <wejones@CBDA7.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Re: Request Satellite Codes

>
> >>THE NEW CODES WILL BE AVAILABLE SOON....
>
> So, what you're saying is that it's ok to steal, cheat, rob, and be
> generally dishonorable.

This is streching things a bit.  Rather an absurd comparison.

>Scrambling is (essentially) a protection of
> copyright, and as a writer and information services vendor I can only
> say that I disagree.

As an ex-academic, I would have to disagree with you.  I have always felt
that information and knowledge cannot be owned by anyone, and as a ham
and shortwave listener, I have always beleived that any rf signal that
is sent into my airspace is fair game.  The copywrite analogy is a
good one actually, since even though books may be copywrited, an individual
has always been able to xerox portions of a library book for his own use.
Of course if one xeroxed an entire book and tried to sell it (or in this
case tried to distribute HBO signals onto a local cable system for a fee),
it would be a different matter.

>If someone has a problem with GI, that's understandable.
> I dislike monopolies too.  But protection of intellectual property is a
> perfectly valid exercise.

Of course, they have a right to protect their ideas.  They can do this
most easily by keeping them to themselves.  And if they can devise a
foolproof scrambling system and get people to pay for scrambled services,
fine, more power to them.  But they have no right to tell someone that
he has no right to experiment with the scrambled signals, and has no
right to tell someone that they can't monitor a signal sent into their
receiver without their permission.  The ECPA refers to interception of
signals intended for someone else.  The person experimenting with a scrambled
signal is not intercepting it, it was already in his receiver.  It wasn't
going anywhere else except to ground.

>I am apalled and quite irritated to see someone
> using the Internet to espouse an illegal and immoral activity.

If it were clearly illegal and immoral, I would agree, but it is
not that clear that it is either.  There are probably near equal
numbers of different opinions on this as there are opinions.

> It might not be a crime in Mexico, but it is in the U.S.,

If it was that clearly a crime, there would surely be many
many prosecutions by now.  I have only heard of prosecutions of
people making money on hardware, not of individual experimenters.

> and this
> kind of thing is...unwelcome...on the net.

Maybe unwelcome to you, but I enjoy reading about all this stuff, just
out of curiosity.  Btw, I do not have a chipped VCII, but not because
I think it is illegal, just because I'm not smart enough to figure out
the system.

> Your account should be
> yanked, and the activity that issued it to you should be brought
> under scrutiny by network administration to answer why you were
> granted access in the first place.
>
> If no one else does, I'll submit a complaint myself.
>

Whatever happened to freedom of speech.  Just what we need, another censor.
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 20:51:26 -0800
From: Eric_Knippert@f711.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: C3 & C4
Comment-To: All@f711.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Reply-To: Eric_Knippert@f711.n202.z1.fidonet.org
X-FSC-PATH: 202/711 701
X-FSC-EID: 43D1 847D0001

For those of you who are into this sort of thing, here are the
transponder assignments for satellites C3 and C4:

C4  (135 deg west)                 C3  (131 deg west)
Trans #   Program                  Trans #    Program

01 (V)    AMC                      01 (V)     Family Channel (E)
02 (H)    Request TV 2             02 (H)     Learning Channel
03        Nickelodeon (E)          03         Viewer's Choice 1
04        Lifetime (E)             04         Lifetime (W)
05        Jones Spacelink          05         VISN/ACTS
06        MSG 1                    06         Court TV
07        Bravo/RAI USA            07         C-SPAN
08        Prevue Guide             08         QVC 2
09        QVC                      09         Digital Cable Radio
10        HSC                      10         HSC 2
11        ADSTAR                   11         Prime Netwark
12        NUSTAR                   12         A&E
13        Travel Channel           13         Weather Channel
14        Family Channel (W)       14         NESN
15        WWOR                     15         Showtime (E)
16        Request TV 1             16         MTV (W)
17        MTV (E)                  17         The Movie Channel (E)
18        Viewer's Choice          18         Nickelodeon (W)
19        C-Span 2                 19         Viacom
20        Showtime (W)             20         Jones Intercable
21        Discovery                21         Comedy Central (E)
22        The Movie Channel (W)    22         -open-
23        VH-1                     23         E! Entertainment
24        -open-                   24         -open-

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From: zycad!yoda!vijay@SUN.COM (Vijay Vaidyanathan)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Whats the bandwidth of SCPC signals? (and other related Qns)
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:25:10 GMT
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              12 Nov 1992 14:13:13 GMT <9211121509.AA15803@Sun.COM>

> In article <9211112142.AA19675@yoda.zycad.com>,         "Vijay Vaidyanathan"
> <zycad!yoda!vijay@SUN.COM> writes:
> > As some of you may know, I am building an SCPC receiver with
> > switchable bandwidth that will hook on to the 70 Meg loop ... If
>
> I and many other netters would probably be more interested in a
> device that allows us to use the IF loop prevalent these days,
> 140 MHz. Just a suggestion, businesses are always talking about bringing
> to market what the market wants.

You're probably right, which is exactly why I am not a business!
(or, thats further evidence why I would be a terrible business!).

But seriously, the only reason I picked 70 Meg is because thats
all *I* have. I reasoned, that if the solution is really as
inexpensive as I hope it will be, it'll be cost effective to
actually buy a second 70-Meg-loop-equipped receiver that'll handle
the SCPC. In fact, if you get really fancy, you can even think
about using the power supply off the second receiver.

On the other hand, I also told myself that it wouldnt be terribly
hard to modify it to tune the 140 meg range instead of the 70 meg
range.

- Vijay
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:04:17 EST
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: CBC National & Journal Gone?

>It appears that the CBC has replaced Thhe National & The Journal with a new
>news program. CBC Primetime News. Is The National gone for good? I sure hope
>not. The National & The Journal where one of my main reasons for getting into
>Satellite Television.



The national has been moved to CBC NEWSWORLD.  You need cable and you need to
be in CANADA to see it.

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From: solomon@rocdec.roc.wayne.edu (Orson Scott)
Subject: Getting Started with Satellite Viewing
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:25:25 GMT

As most of you know CABLE rates keep climbing and climbing. My father
and I were considering purchasing a sateland associated decoders and
tuners. Could someone make a recommendations of what to purchase and
give a ball park figure of how much it will cost. I have talked with
several people who have them, but they really don't seem to know much
other than it works and can get all the movie channels. On friend of
mine has to subscribe to a service which provides him with staellite
descrambling codes.

Also, we were curious about the new smaller dishes which won't be an
eyesore in the backyard. Are they available yet and what are the
disadvantages of owning the smaller dishes vs the large ones.

Help if you can and take pity on the novice! It is a costly step from
what I understand.

Thanks in advance.

Solomon

solomon@rocdec.roc.wayne.edu

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From: mbn@skeletor.hf.intel.com (Mike Northam)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite,rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: SportsChannel LA going dark
Date: 11 Nov 92 13:32:18 GMT
Reply-To: mbn@greyskul.hf.intel.com
Organization: Shorter Software Solutions

SportsChannel LA (C1-20) has announced they are going dark at the end of
December, according to "Multichannel News" (a cable trade publication).
SCLA carries the Dodgers, Angels and Clippers, so this will leave a big
void for the sports nut.  They had been trying to market the games of
these pro teams on a PPV basis, with only limited success.

SportsChannel Ohio (F4-16) was reported to be the next weakest (in terms of
profitability) of the SportsChannels, so that bears watching (SC-Ohio
carries the Cavs games, but not on a PPV basis).
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From: urmvance@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: ZTV info?
Date: 4 Nov 92 18:13:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: memstvx1.1992Nov5.001310.3979
Organization: Memphis State University

Hey, folks!

I was wondering if anyone knew anything about ZTV, a Christian Music Video
channel that is supposed to be up-and-coming. If someone could mail me info, I
would appreciate it greatly!
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From: jim@neb (Jim Hood)
Subject: T1 out of fuel??? I thought...
Organization: Nebula - Public Access Unix/bbs SLC Ut, USA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:06:18 GMT

There have been a few postings stating that T1 was out of station
keeping fuel.  

I thought that when a satellite was almost out of station keeping 
fuel, that they used the remaining fuel to push it into a HIGH 
parking orbit (to push it out of the way for it's replacement, and
to keep it from crashing into other operational sats)  (also to
allow for the day when we might want to try to retrieve them and
re-fuel them).

If it is out of fuel, why wasn't it pushed into the higher orbit
and made inactive like the rest?

-jim
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From: terry.walter@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Terry Walter) 
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: VCII PLUS
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:02:00 GMT
Reply-To: terry.walter@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Terry Walter) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Outland BBS  UUPCB  403-475-9588

Everyone knows that the SUN board (a VCII LEGIT CLONE) is wide open, it
can get a new dallas board in the near future that will understand the
vcii plus, and well, since its wide open, you might see OAK and BMAC
come along.  BMAC would be really hard, but OAK should not.

GI is really interesting.  a company that will sell to Canadians in
Western Canada, reason is, in Western Canada before this year, you were
not allowed to subscribe to anything, not even 1st Choice.  1St Choice
was only for East of Manitoba. eg( Ontario, Quebec, etc.).  GI knew they
would be able to sell their decoders up here, and they knew they were
going to be chipped.

In a couple of Years, the VideoCypher series willbe going, and I think
alot of programmers and cable companies will get together and switch to
something more stable.  The Euro-Cypher RS has been broken there for
years, the only way they are fighting piracy there is sending update
cards every couple of weeks or ever month.  Big deal.  I think
programmers will say to GI screw you soon.  HBO the leader in scrambling
their signal has signed a 3 year contract with GI, that is why GI only
has a 3 year warranty on the VCII+ MOM boards.

Speaking as a Canadian, the decisions from the states I think affect the
US VCII owners more than us Canadians.  Reason, What GI is doing would
to consumers and programmers over charging consumers, the Canadian Gov't
would of done something.  But the USA Gov't is influenced more by the
dollar than the voters.  Its true.  Yes, we all will be purchasing a
VCII PLUS, or purchasing the VCII PLUS Daughterboards,(to make the
VCII's look like a PLUS)...  Its like the Canadians Cancom.  I talked to
a rep of Cancom, And I asked them the following:

1q) If you decide to only authorize the Stereo version of the Oak
(cancom) decoder and not the original mono, is it possible for mono
owners to upgrade to the Stereo.

1a) He said that the gov't would force a free upgrade.  But he said
    That day is far, far away.

2q) If someone has chipped a Cancom, can he send it back and get it
    fixed so it becomes a legit cancom.

2a) Yes it will cost the customer money, and the local dealer will
    send it back asking for it to be repaired.

To be able to pick up everything up there that is OAK (cancom) costs
$349.00 CDN a year.  Compare that to the US VCII for everything up
there.  One company is making too much money.

It seems that the US gov't does not like to get involved the business,
but in Canada, I think the Canadians would rather have a gov't get
involved to regulate prices, than have a sweat shop.
                                                                                           
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 22:21:04 EST
From:         Flash Hoser <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: weather images

>I'm sure this has been asked before but "Is it possible to
>receive weather images using your TVRO?" If anyone knows about
>this stuff I would be most pleased to hear from you.
>Jack

ABSOLUTELY JACK!  All you need is a shortwave receiver and TVRO.  The SW
needs to be able to tune FM mode.  The signal in question is on Spacenet 3,
FM SQUARED.  You need suitable software to decode the images.

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From: robe@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (robert.g.egan)
Subject: Re: How is the Star Trek feed quality at your location?
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 12:54:18 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.205643.21642@fcom.cc.utah.edu>, dave@news.ccutah.edu (dave martin) writes:
> 
> What is the program on just before startrek the last couple of weeks?
> There was some guy selling a small KU only system form $450, then some
> silver dimes, then he was suddenly (in the middle of a sentence) replaced
> by the StarTrek slate.  The ST Slate has changed its appearance lately too.
> 

That's Bargain Barry. I get a kick out of watching these people selling coins
graded Brilliant Uncirculated and then putting their grimely little fingers
all of them to show us.
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From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Subject: Re: How is the Star Trek feed quality at your location?
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 04:19:55 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <smonares.02qy@tvland.UUCP> smonares@tvland.UUCP (Steve Monares) writes:

 :)  But I tend to agree that 5V (Ch.9) is not the best transponder on Telstar 3
01.  BTW, anyone know where Paramount will be feeding ST:TNG come next November 
when T301 "dies"?                                                               

I reply:

9 happens to be a good transponder (according to my system).  I have
problems with 17, 5, and 7 (more sparklies than other transponders,
but still not bad considering I use a  50 degree LNB).

I do agree 9 is slightly worse when Paramount does the u/l (star
trek, hard copy, Entertainment Tonight).  when other u/l take
over for occasional video or syndies, picture is super.

BTW, I think the Star Trek is going over to T2 when T1 becomes useless.
I've already noticed a few ABC commercial-free shows being fed
on T2 (not on the normal T2 ABC transponders).

Robert
roberts@triton.unm.edu
From: robe@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (robert.g.egan)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Whats the bandwidth of SCPC signals? (and other related Qns)
Summary: What about 1IRDs with 140MHz loop?
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:13:13 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <9211112142.AA19675@yoda.zycad.com>,         "Vijay Vaidyanathan" <zycad!yoda!vijay@SUN.COM> writes:
> As some of you may know, I am building an SCPC receiver with
> switchable bandwidth that will hook on to the 70 Meg loop ... If

I and many other netters would probably be more interested in a
device that allows us to use the IF loop prevalent these days,
140 MHz. Just a suggestion, businesses are always talking about bringing
to market what the market wants.

> 
> The Pass bandwidth for 25 kHz spacing is +/-7.5 kHz. Is this too
> narrow?
> 

I think so.
From: ccofjg@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: <None>
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:00:24 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

THIS IS A TEST - PLEASE IGNORE

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Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 1992 01:09:31 EST
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: Digital Compression and Home Dishes

Bill Tippy....

The statement you quoted regarding NTSC vs. HOME received NTSC is well taken.
I first noticed this difference in the late 1960's when I worked at a
broadcast station.  I would produce things that looked BEAUTIFUL on the
studio montitors that did not carry over to the OFF AIR monitor.  STUDIO
QUALITY NTSC is really beautiful, much better than 16mm film quality.

Even many of the services on Satellite do not take full advantage of the
quality of NTSC.  Surprisingly I find some of the best video coming from the
SHOPPING CHANNELS.  For one thing they are usually up LIVE, and uplinked
right from the studio.  They generally have very good lighting, and use
relatively GOOD cameras.

When I switch to the same channel on cable as opposed to satellite, I can
definately notice the difference, and we have a VERY GOOD cable system here,
but it is limited to the NTSC over the air standard.  Studio quality is much
better!


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From: scottdl@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Scott LaFrancois)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:19:42 GMT
Subject: Re: How is the Star Trek feed quality at your location?
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (SRSD MWTD)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite

/ hpmwga:rec.video.satellite / alanr@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Alan N Rovner) /  8:40 am  Nov  4, 1992 /
>I believe this subject has been discussed before, but I'm still having
>trouble.  The Saturday Star Trek feed at 3pm Pacific time has looked awful
>the last few weeks.  Lots of noise, sparklies and the like.  I compared
>notes with a friend about 40 miles away and he sees the same thing.

>I vaguely remember someone on the net mentioning something about adjacent
>channel interference.  Since T1-09 is surrounded by ABC feeds and others
>does this somehow affect the Star Trek feed quality?  This phenomonon seems
>to vary, sometimes the feed is fine, other times not.  T1-09 is not the 
>loudest transponder I receive from T1.  Maybe that has something to do with
>it.  (Maybe this will go away when Telstar 401 is up!).  By the way, the
>other transponders on T1 look fine, no problem at all.

>I'm located in Vancouver, Wash, near Portland, Ore and am using an Orbitron
>12 foot dish with a Sierra III IRD.  So I'm curious how this feed looks
>around the country and appreciate your feedback.

>Al Rovner, WA2TMP/7
>Tektronix Test & Measurement Group
----------

 I have seen pretty much the same thing.  I had been attributing it to my
 setup, an ancient Radio Shack SR-2010 with an 8.5' dish, since I just
 recently scrounged and installed it.  I'm located in Rohnert Park, CA
 about 50 miles north of San Francisco.

 Scott Lafrancois
 Hewlett Packard semiconductor equipment support group
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:13:38 EST
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: Whats the bandwidth of SCPC signals? (and other related Qns)

Re: SCPC

>On the other hand, I also told myself that it wouldnt be terribly
>hard to modify it to tune the 140 meg range instead of the 70 meg
>range.

Tell you the truth, I am very impressed with the performance off the loop of
the DRAKE 1524 (140mhz) which sounds cleaner than the UNIDEN on the narrower
signals.

I think a version with 4 or 5 switchable bandwidths that would work at 140
mhz would be something that I would LOVE to have...

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