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From: mx8@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Emplant Pictures Located (Re: Emplant Pic - Request!)
Date: 29 Aug 92 18:50:01 EDT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Cornell University


	I've downloaded this file and placed it on wugate (128.252.135.4).
This site has anon ftp.  Go there and cd to pub/AMIGA_UPLOADS/pics and look
for "emplntpics.lzh", which should be 321978 bytes long.

	I've dearchived the beastie, and it seems, at least on the surface,
to be genuine.

	Eric Beyer
	elb1@cornell.edu

		In article <1992Aug28.173417.1745@nntp.uoregon.edu>,
gpotts@hebb.uoregon.edu writes: 
> In article <1992Aug28.001911.1919@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu>
> gip@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (G.I.P.) writes:
>>        Upon lurking around GVP's Bulletin Board, I saw a new file that said
>>it contained pictures of the Emplant board. Being at a slow 1200 baud, I
> passed
>>on downloading this file, which by the way was like 320K, and which I wasn't
>>about to expend the long distance charges on...
>>
>>        Anywayz, if anywone is in the Pennsylvania area and wants to call and
>>d/l the file, or has a hi-speed modem and wants to make the long distance
> call,
>>the number for GVP's BBS is (215) 337-5815. Users can log on and instantly be
>>validated to d/l, so anyone can grab the file right away...
>>
>>-- 
>>     /// George I. Papadopoulos    |  "It's _Mister_ Pathetic Loser
>>    ///   gip@drycas.bitnet        |   to you, pal..!"
>>\\\/// gip@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu  |              - Juan Gonzalez,
>> \XX/      gip@nyx.cs.du.edu       |                  "Juan In a Million"     
> 
>>
> 
> If someone would either uuencode and post the pix to this group or put 'em up
> on an
> FTP site (wuarchive would be a good choice), I'm sure I'm not the only one who
> would
> appreciate it.
> 
> --geoff
> gpotts@hebb.uoregon.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: bnrmtl!groleau@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Francois Groleau)
Subject: SEEKING ADVICE: ink jet printers
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.emulations 
Keywords: printers
Reply-To: bnrmtl!groleau@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Francois Groleau)
Organization: Bell Northern Research Montreal, Canada
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 19:57:21 GMT

Hi!

	I am thinking of buying an ink jet printer for my Amiga.  Now,
I am trying to think ahead and see if such a printer could work with
a Mac word processor running on AMax.  Would it need a special driver
from the Mac world?  So does any one have experience with either the
DeskJet or the BubbleJet with AMax?  Which one is best supported in
the Amiga world?


Thanks in advance!

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Bell-Northern Research| not those of my  | 10 days and counting...
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From: dgilbert@aeshq.uucp (David Gilbert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: IBeM <--> Dos 5.0 ?  Sorta...
Summary: Ok... I found the fault --- it's mine.
Keywords: amiga emulations Dos5 answer
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:36:52 GMT
Organization: Environment Canada --- Atmostpheric Environment Service
In-reply-to: dgilbert@aeshq.uucp's message of 25 Aug 92 17:30:04 GMT


	My apologies to the net.  I managed to get Dos5 (although I have
not yet ventured into Wp5.1 as mentioned in the last article) to run
under IBeM.  I suppose the problem stemmed from my lack of knowledge
about DOS.

	The whole problem hinged on the line in my config.sys which read
"DOS=low" and should have read "DOS=LOW".  My worst complaint is that
it reads "dos=low" in the official Dos5 manual from Microsoft!  Am I
supposed to inately know that they meant upper case?

	I'm not a computer novice... I work with pretty complicated stuff
on both AmigaOS, and UN*X.  Some things in both AmigaOS and UN*X are
case-specific, and I can accept that --- I just have a problem when
the documentation specifies something different.

	For those of you who are interested, the "Task-Swapper" even
works.  Not too surprising... it just seems to "core-dump" an image of
the current process.  I managed to run the supplied QBasic, and
MicroEmacs together.

	The only thing I'd say about the emulator is that while the
computational power is rather quick, the graphics are a real
bottleneck.  I have a 500 w/ VXL25Mhz '030 w/ 8megs 32bit ram.  I
would expect the 3000 wouldn't suffer as bad here due to the increased
bandwidth to chip ram.  Does anyone know if IBeM uses the blitter to
any extent?  Just curious.

Dave.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: leeuw@fwi.uva.nl (Jacco de Leeuw)
Subject: Re: Emplant Pic - Request!
Keywords: EMPLANT
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 10:31:04 GMT

banks@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Corey Banks) writes:

>	Someone posted a little while ago concerning EMPLANT testing,  with this
>being used to satisfy people that EMPLANT is not vapourware.  Well if this isn't
>going to be done, how about Jim posting some pictures?  For me a picture of the
>card and packaging would be enough to make me wait for its release.  Its just
>an idea, but I'm begining to believe EMPLANT is more vapour than it is real.

>					Corey Banks.

I asked this a few weeks ago.

So, why doesn't Mr. Drew borrow a scanner or a digitizer, and post some
pictures? If he really does want to make us believe that Emplant exists, he 
should post pictures of the machine together with some screenshots.

If he does not post pictures, and does not explain us why, but otherwise 
keeps on posting in this newsgroup (i.e. just ignores our request), we all
know what that means: no Emplant. I'm sure that Mr. Drew wants to prevent
this, if he has a real product which he wants to market...

Jacco

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I don't even speak for my Amiga ; it has its own SPEAK: device...
From: Jdrew@nesbbx.rain.COM (**)
Subject: Re: Where's Jim? (was: Emplant Pic - Request!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.19 8/23/92 (Beta)
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:03:32 PST
Organization: NESBBX Bulletin Board System

I am not sure what happened to my original posting, so here it is
again:
 
On August 24th, 1992 the hardware board 'EMPLANT' received FCC
certification as a class 'B' computer peripheral.  This means
that we can now legally sell this device.  The test was conducted
at the only FCC test site in Arizona (Chandler).  The board (which
must be run through ALL of it's functions for approval) performed
flawlessly.
 
Utilities Unlimited, Inc. will be attending the World of Commodore
show in Pasadena.  DMI (the makers of the Resolver and the VIDI24
boards) graciously donated space in their booth (since it is the
largest booth at the show) for the EMPLANT's debut.  I will be on
hand to both demostrate EMPLANT's abilities and answer questions.
 
For those of you who are still in doubt of the existence of EMPLANT
(or those of you who are curious) can download digitized pictures
of the EMPLANT hardware.  These pictures were captured with DCTV,
and converted to HAM format.  The number to our BBS is: (602)
453-9767 (8N1, 1200-14400 baud, v.32bis/v.42bis/MNP1-5, 24hrs).
 
A few last minute PLD (programmable logic device) changes were made to
EMPLANT.  The SCSI hard drive controller originally used traditional
blind read/polled writes.  Thanks to NCR (for a thorough explanation
of their hardware handshaking logic), we now are using safe blind
reads and blind writes.  Not only is this the fastest method of
transferring data, it is also the safest, as each byte is checked to
make sure it was transferred to/from the hard drive correctly.
Using SCSISpeed and DiskSpeed as testing programs (both excellent
programs!) the interface is averaging 1.12 megabytes per second
and 850K per second respectively.  The average CPU availability
according to DiskSpeed is 35%.  Testing was conducted using a stock
Amiga 500 and a Quantam LPS105LS hard drive.
 
I hope to see you at the show!
 
 
Sincerely,
 
Jim Drew, Vice-President
          Utilities Unlimited, Inc.
          1641 McCulloch Blvd. Suite #25-124
          Lake Havasu City, AZ  86403
          (602) 680-9004  -  Office
          (602) 680-9006  -  FAX
          (602) 453-9767  -  Bulletin Board
 

 
Jim Drew, Vice-President
          Utilities Unlimited, Inc.  1641 McCulloch Blvd Suite #25-124
          (602) 680-9004             Lake Havasu City, AZ  86403
          (602) 680-9006  FAX        (602) 453-9767  BBS
From: Jdrew@nesbbx.rain.COM (**)
Subject: Re: Question about Emplant's SCSI controller
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.19 8/23/92 (Beta)
Date: 3 Sep 92 01:30:32 PST
Organization: NESBBX Bulletin Board System

In <180p6kINNkhn@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, smythe@cats.ucsc.edu (Brian Matthew Aljian) writes:
> 
> Jim,
> 
> Those of us who already have SCSI controllers on the Amiga side won't need to
> buy the Emplant board with the SCSI controller just to use our hard drives on
> the Mac side, right?
> 
> Just checking.
> 
> -- 
>    Brian M. Aljian
>    smythe@stallion.santa-cruz.ca.us
Yep.  The only thing that you will need to do is to make a mountlist entry
(yes, even those of you with auto-booting drives).  Our software checks
the RDB info against mountlist entries to ensure that accidents don't
happen.

 
Jim Drew, Vice-President
          Utilities Unlimited, Inc.  1641 McCulloch Blvd Suite #25-124
          (602) 680-9004             Lake Havasu City, AZ  86403
          (602) 680-9006  FAX        (602) 453-9767  BBS
From: Jdrew@nesbbx.rain.COM (**)
Subject: Re: Questions:  Emplant, SCSI, color, & benchmarks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.19 8/23/92 (Beta)
Date: 3 Sep 92 01:33:29 PST
Organization: NESBBX Bulletin Board System

>   And I sure hope that color support is ok.  That's a necessity.
>   Sorry about all the questions, but what exactly is the speed ratio
>   between Emplant and a real Mac IIci?  Are they the same (or maybe...
>   faster!?)
> 
>   Greetings,
> 
>      --Travis Carter
>        slbfn@cc.usu.edu
 
That all depends on your Amiga.  We have been developing the EMPLANT
systems and it's emulators using Amiga 500's running VXL-30 accelerators
(40Mhz) and we are seeing (using the MAC PD program 'Speedometer') our
emulator running about 3.5 times faster than a 15.66 Mhz MAC IIx.

 
Jim Drew, Vice-President
          Utilities Unlimited, Inc.  1641 McCulloch Blvd Suite #25-124
          (602) 680-9004             Lake Havasu City, AZ  86403
          (602) 680-9006  FAX        (602) 453-9767  BBS
From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Mac emulation & color - a fantasy?
Date: 31 Aug 92 00:14:31 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Jdrew@nesbbx.rain.COM (**) writes:
> 
>Yes, EMPLANT does support DCTV and the majority of the 8bit and 24bit
>boards out there.  The screen updates for DCTV (and all other video
>boards) is done in real time (60 FPS).  
> 
>ALL of the video device drivers and update software for each emulation
>module will be available on our BBS at no charge.

> 
>Jim Drew, Vice-President
>          Utilities Unlimited, Inc.  1641 McCulloch Blvd Suite #25-124
>          (602) 680-9004             Lake Havasu City, AZ  86403
>          (602) 680-9006  FAX        (602) 453-9767  BBS

Hey, Jim, I have a question:

	Would EMPLANT's appletalk port be accessible by the Amiga?  It
would be neat if your company includes a program which allows the Amiga
to send stuff/access appletalk just like a Mac do. 

	I figure most people who will be buying EMPLANT are college students
who have access to AppleTalk.  Wouldn't it be nice if they can, say, 
send a message (ie, "boardcast message"), print a file, etc. without    
having to boot up the Mac?

	I hope you understand what I am trying to say... if not, e-mail
me.  

Yours sincerely,
Kelvin (eagerly waiting for EMPLANT)                 
 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett)
Subject: Re: Emplant
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 18:57:44 GMT

In article <52302@dime.cs.umass.edu> barrett@gleep.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) writes:
>In article <1992Aug23.140707.22660@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung) writes:
>>>I am upset that Emplant is not out....
>>>In fact, he could FED EX a board to someone by 11am Monday morning, and we
>>>could have a review out on all USENET sites by Monday night. But it
>>>probably won't happen.
>
>	And I certainly hope that it will NOT happen.  I have read too many
>reviews by people who spent only a day or two using a product.  Emplant (if
>it exists) is too complex for such a review.
>
>	What if this "1 day wonder review" said that the product works
>as advertised.  Would you believe it?  I would be very skeptical; how
>much could the reviewer really do or know in that amount of time?

   How much time should it take to check out a product such as this?  Emplant
is conceptually simple.  I know if I had access to Emplant, and it did work 
as advertized, I could put it through a thorough test in an hour or two.  I
have a hard disk that has a genuine Mac partition on it; I created it under 
the original A-Max (A-Max 1.0) with a Mac package called Disk Manager Mac, with
a TrumpCard HD controller, and I can use this HD partition on a real Macintosh
by just plugging it in.  With a little warning, I could setup the Mac
partition with the Mac II system software prior to setting up Emplant.  Once
setup, it would not take more than an hour to try out various programs to 
make sure they run correctly with color.

   One thing that I am wondering about, though, is whether or not Emplant 
will use A-Max partitions.  It should be able to use real Mac partitions,
but I am sure that lots of people will not like having to backup all of 
their software to disk and reformat their HDs to setup an Emplant HD partition.
I am concerned about this as well, because I have a second HD with an A-Max
partition on it, and am considering purchasing Emplant.

>	I sincerely hope that anybody who publishes an Emplant review has
>used the board extensively for at least a month.

   Overkill.  Emplant makes an Amiga appear just like a real Mac II.  Therefore
it should not take much longer to give Emplant a thorough test, than it would
take to ensure that a brand-new real Mac II system works well after being
purchased.  

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From: wwarner@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Art Warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Emplant passed FCC
Date: 29 Aug 92 03:15:40 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Aug28.011455.58480@cc.usu.edu> sl1zm@cc.usu.edu writes:
>Well, according to a friend of mine, the FCC has finally approved the
>Emplant board and it will be shipping RSN.
>He also had the pictures of the board.
>So, the remaining question is "how soon is real soon???"

Well, I had ANOTHER conversation with that "receptionist" from Utilities
Unlimited today. (28Aug92 at 5pm)  She told me that the shipping date had
*AGAIN* been pushed back to SEP20!!!  Her reason was due to FCC approval and
waiting till after the World OF Commodore show, where they will supposedly be
showing it off.  I am getting quite tired of waiting.  Why announce a product
before it is ready to be shipped?

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From: David.King@afitamy.fidonet.org (David King)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: AMOUSE, A2286, Dos 5.0 Shell
Date: 29 Aug 92 21:59:45 GMT
Organization: AFIT Amiga Users BBS(AFITAUG), Dayton, Oh. (513) 879-9798

I had the same problem.  The Janus version 2.1 should have two disks: one 3.5
and one 5-1/4.  MThe package I got from my dealer was missing the 5-1/4 disk.
This disk has new files (including a mouse driver), which MUST be loaded on
the PC disk to work.  Hope this helps./?

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Subject: Re: 386SX BB memory questions
From: bjbernstein@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Date: 31 Aug 92 09:30:44 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

>>1.  Can the 386SX BB use the memory in the amiga or only the one installed on
>>    the bridge board itself?
> 
> not by itself, but there's an EMS emulator for bridgeboards that uses amiga
> RAM.  it's supposedly kinda slow (since it's mapping stuff through the dual
> port RAM) and i don't know for sure if it works with janus 2.1 and/or the
> 2386SX, but it's public domain.

  WHERE!?!? I need more memory, and that would be PERFECT..

  Someone direct me to an FTP site or got UUENCODE? 

  Thanks..



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From: Charles_Holt@a68k.denver.CO.US (Charles Holt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Mac emulation & color - a fantasy?
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:21:21 GMT
Organization: The Arvada 68K BBS- Westminster, CO


   Well, I just called Raymond as I was reading the message... he said he
has no news whatsoever, but they are hoping to get color sometime (?).  Not
very helpful.  I would really hate to have to get rid of my Amiga to help
my pay for a Mac, since I truly love this computer, but if it comes down to
it, my future career takes precedence over my hobby. :(

-- Via DLG Pro v0.995
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From: eodell@nyx.cs.du.edu (Eugene O'Dell)
Subject: Re: Emplant passed FCC
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 04:22:37 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.031540.10769@en.ecn.purdue.edu> wwarner@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Art Warner) writes:
>showing it off.  I am getting quite tired of waiting.  Why announce a product
>before it is ready to be shipped?

It's a way to get people interested in a product, and have those people
talk about said product to their friends, in hopes that they become
interested, etc.  Or maybe it was a mistake on the part of UU, who
knows.  :-)
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From: Winfried.Krueger@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Winfried.Krueger)
Subject: Re: 386sx card for A3000? Help!
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:58:27 GMT

slfvd@cc.usu.edu (Joshua Dinerstein) writes:

>Hello, I want to purchase a new 386sx board for my A3000.  Can someone
>give me some specs on what all I need to do?  

>  Questions I have:

>  Does it support the Amiga mouse?

Yes.

>  If no, can I get something that will let me use the Amiga mouse?

>  What is the highest graphics mode it can immulate?

CGA via software emulation and anything you put into one of your 
A3000's ISA slots (e.g. VGA)

>  Can I run the latest WP (5.1?) on it?

Why not?

>  Can I partition part of my harddrive to allow it to be used on IBM side.

Sure, no problem...

>  Are the par & ser ports usable from the IBM side?  

Parallel: Yes. Serial: No.


>  Thanks, Jeff   slfvd@cc.usu.edu

winnie.
From: prf@otter.hpl.hp.com (Paul Freeman)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 12:08:01 GMT
Subject: Re: 386sx card for A3000?  Help!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations


I'd like some information on this too. 

I've just found out that Vortex produce 386 emulator called the 
Golden Gate, but I don't know what its capabilities are. 

Amigaworld did a very good article on the 286 bridgeboards in 
the December 1991 issue. Have there been any subsequent articles
about 386 boards? 

This ought to be in a FAQ, I'm sure!