Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.meta
Subject: what can't be verified/falsified in mean
From: Hakki_Kocabas@kcbbs.gen.nz (Hakki Kocabas)
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:37:05 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

Also sprach Russell "What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless."
 
Questions to Russellian:
 
Did you invent that 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' 
as a fiction ?
 
In your use, can you say that a reality corresponds to 'What cannot be 
verified or falsified is meaningless' if it is true and we can assert it ?
If yes, so you have a use for 'What cannot be verified or falsified is 
meaningless'
 
Do you use 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' as an 
explanation of the use of the words; verify/falsify/meaningless ?
 
How did you learn the expression 'What cannot be verified or falsified 
is meaningless' ?
Has anyone explained it to you by refering to sensations, images or
thoughts that accompany hearing 'What cannot be verified or falsified 
is meaningless' ?
 
Can you construct an application of these-symbols ?
Is this a definition about a symbol ?
 
In your use of it, is time enter into 'What cannot be verified or falsified 
is meaningless' ?
Do you use 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' to make 
forecasts/predictions ?
 
If you use it as a mathematical proposition, can you prove it in
mathematics according to certain rules ?
 
In your use of 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless', 
can you say nothing which happens will ever make me/us call it false or 
give up ?
 
Would you use 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' if in 
its application things were different ?
 
Is 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' useful in experience ?
 
If 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' is a rule, do you 
know how is it used ?
 
Do you want to join different techniques with the use of 'What cannot be 
verified or falsified is meaningless' ?
 
Do you want to use 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' 
as a projection ?
 
Do you want to make 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' 
independent of experience ? So you want to lay down 'What cannot be verified 
or falsified is meaningless' as a foundation which provides a form of
representation ? a method of description ?
 
If you don't marvel at the fact that the propositions of arithmetic
(e.g. the multiplication tables) are "absolutely certain", then why
should one be astonishted that the proposition 'What cannot be verified 
or falsified is meaningless' is so equally ?
 
Can you say "I don't have to change my opinion that 'What cannot be verified 
or falsified is meaningless' " ?
 
I don't know what you mean, tell me exactly what you mean, or else
I may be cheated.
I need to know how it is used, do you know how to use it ?
 
An expression has any amount of use, then how if I tell you a sentence
'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless', can you have the 
use in your mind in an instant ?
 
Is this similar to nonsense or to something that is surprising ?
Are you inclined to call this nonsense ?
 
Is this nearer to the ordinary case or is it nearer to the absurt case ?
 
Is that 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' a rule about 
the use of symbols ?
 
Was 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' first introduced 
because of experience and now you have made it independent of experience; 
a rule of expression for talking about your experiences ?
 
Is it true that you have arranged your notation in such a way that
'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningful' is meaningless ? 
and has been excluded ? Is it excluded for experiencial reasons, however 
the statement that it is impossible is not an experiencial statement ?
 
When you use 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' can you 
say it is impossible ? If so, is this a rule of expression ?
Is this 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' a 
paradigm/an-object-of-comaprison and you want to use it as a model ?
If yes, is it useful ?
        is it useless ?
 
Do you use 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' as a 
picture of an experiment ?
 
Do you use 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' as a 
stadard for the experiment, so it is non-temporal ?
 
Do you use it as a historic description of an event, so it is temporal ?
 
Do you use 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' to 
construct concepts ?
 
Do you use 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' to 
describe objects ?
 
Do you want to fix and teach 'What cannot be verified or falsified 
is meaningless' as a technique ?
 
Do you want 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' to 
serve as a paradigm which is timeless ?
 
Do you use 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' as a 
standard of comparison as a paradigm for the technique ?
 
Do you want to make up your mind what you want to do with 'What cannot 
be verified or falsified is meaningless' ?
 
Before you answer the following questions don't gaze at a form of
words forgetting my asking you what is done with it. Don't gaze to
your own soul to see if two expressions have the same meaning but
gaze how you use it.
 
In your use of 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' 
is it meaningful to affix to 'What cannot be verified or falsified 
is meaningless' by definition ?
 
Does 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' have its 
sense in a system of proofs ?
 
Do you want this sentence 'What cannot be verified or falsified is 
meaningless' to work ?
 
Would it be true that 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' 
make any difference how you use it later ?
 
Leave alone it's meaning does 'What cannot be verified or falsified is 
meaningless' have a use ? If not why don't you eliminate it ? If you do 
that wouldn't it be a modification other than closing certain doors ? 
Would it ?
 
This shows what you do with 'What cannot be verified or falsified is 
meaningless' : Have you chosen 'What cannot be verified or falsified is 
meaningless' to get to a certain point ?
You don't know what 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' 
means ? Want to try again ?
 
Do you have grounds for doubting that 'What cannot be verified or falsified 
is meaningless' ?
 
Has experience shown it to be unnecessary that 'What cannot be verified or 
falsified is meaningless' ?
Can you say that experience always proves you right that 'What cannot be 
verified or falsified is meaningless'?
 
Does 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' state part of 
the picture you form to help you in the judgement of various situations ?
 
Do you need to satisfy yourself by saying that 'What cannot be verified 
or falsified is meaningless' to be able to act ?
 
If I pronounce the opposite of that 'What cannot be verified or falsified 
is meaningless' would you regard me as demented ?
 
Can you say: I cannot give you any grounds that 'What cannot be verified or 
falsified is meaningless', but if you learn more you too will think the same ?
 
Does it make sense to doubt that 'What cannot be verified or falsified is 
meaningless' ?
Can you doubt that 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' ?
 
What is it like to make such a mistake as that 'What cannot be verified or 
falsified is meaningless' ?
 
What is it like to discover that 'What cannot be verified or falsified is 
meaningless' was a mistake ?
What could a mistake here be like that 'What cannot be verified or falsified 
is meaningless' ?
 
Is this 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' supposed to be 
an empirical proposition ?
 
Is the hypothesis 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' 
possible ?
 
Can you say if I am wrong about this 'What cannot be verified or falsified 
is meaningless', I have no guarantee that anything I say is true ?
 
Can you say if you are wrong about this 'What cannot be verified or falsified 
is meaningless', you have no guarantee that anything you say is true ?
 
What would the practical effects of this belief 'What cannot be verified 
or falsified is meaningless' be ?
Is it difficult to imagine why anyone should believe the contrary ?
What could induce you to believe the opposite ?
Can you imagine the opposite of 'What cannot be verified or falsified is 
meaningless' ?
 
Is this proposition 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' 
must be solid for you ?
 
Is this 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' a fact that 
you are certain of to be certain of the meaning of your words ?
 
Can you say that it stands fast for me and many others that 'What cannot be 
verified or falsified is meaningless' ?
Is it possible for you to doubt that 'What cannot be verified or falsified 
is meaningless' ? Why ?
Could you try to doubt that 'What cannot be verified or falsified is 
meaningless' ?
Can you say everything speaks for 'What cannot be verified or falsified 
is meaningless' ?
Can you say nothing against 'What cannot be verified or falsified is 
meaningless' ?
If you doubt that 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' 
how would your doubt come out in practice ?
If it makes no difference at all enjoy your doubt !!!
 
What are you doing in believing that 'What cannot be verified or falsified 
is meaningless' ?
What are you believing if you believe 'What cannot be verified or falsified 
is meaningless' ?
Can you say that one can only believe that 'What cannot be verified or 
falsified is meaningless', and even that one can't believe ?
Why do you believe that 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' ?
    Have you reasons ?
    Do you need reasons ?
On what ground do you believe that 'What cannot be verified or falsified 
is meaningless' ?
 
Is this 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' revealed by God ?
    via which messenger ?
    in which scripture ?
 
What does this belief 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' 
consist in ?
 
Why should it be possible to have grounds for believing that 'What cannot 
be verified or falsified is meaningless' if it isn't possible to be certain ?
 
Can you say: nothing in the world will convince me of the opposite
that 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' ?
Can you say: for me this fact 'What cannot be verified or falsified is 
meaningless' is at the bottom of all knowledge ?
Can you say: I shall give upother things but not this 'What cannot be 
verified or falsified is meaningless' ?
Can you say: I can't be wrong about it that 'What cannot be verified or 
falsified is meaningless' ?
Can you say: I cannot depart from this judgement without toppling all 
other judgements with it that 'What cannot be verified or falsified is 
meaningless' ?
 
Can you say: I cannot be making mistake about it that 'What cannot be 
verified or falsified is meaningless' ?
If your use of that 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' 
is not to be a merely an observation about grammar, can you give the 
circumstances in which this expression 'What cannot be verified or 
falsified is meaningless' functions ?
 
If you doubt that 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless', 
would you have to doubt all sorts of things that stands fast for you ?
 
Can you say that 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' 
is a hypothesis, which as you believe, is again and again completely confirmed ?
Are you not ready to let anything count as a disproof of this
proposition 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless' ?
 
Here you have arrived at a foundation of all your beliefs, what
would it be like to doubt 'What cannot be verified or falsified is 
meaningless' ?
What would you believe if you didn't believe that 'What cannot be 
verified or falsified is meaningless' ?
So far you have no system at all within which this doubt might
exist ? You have arrived at the rock bottom of your convictions ?
and one might almost say that these foundation walls are carried by
the whole house ?
 
Suppose it wasn't true that 'What cannot be verified or falsified is 
meaningless' ?
How should you imagine the mistake being discovered ?
 
If you know that 'What cannot be verified or falsified is meaningless', 
do you also know, or do you only believe, that no future experience 
will seem to contradict your knowledge ?
If yes that is after all a decision. It is possible that you will act 
against it.
 
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