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From: myahgula@questor.org (Michael Yahgulanaas)
Newsgroups: alt.native
Subject: Haida articles received ?
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 00:41:38 PST
Organization: Questor|Free Usenet News|Vancouver, BC: +1 604 681 0670

Gary, have any of the text I've sent been received, or once received has 
it been lacking in some capacity and not been posted ?


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From: beaver.cs.washington.edu!gnosys!selway.umt.edu!demeler (Borries Demeler/Biophysics)
Subject: Re: Northern Exposure
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:52:53 GMT

Original-Sender: selway.umt.edu!demeler (Borries Demeler/Biophysics)

>I know this has been a difficult year for all of us, & truly hideous for
>many of us, but for the love of God, lets have a little peace just once in a
>while ... it doesn't mean we can't work as hard as ever on our assigned &
>unassigned causes, programs, justice, etc., but no where in the rule book
>does it say we can't laught and have fun occasionally.
>
>lyn

Couldn't have said it better myself!
I wished more people would look at it that way, positive attitudes towards
all these problems do a whole lot more in my experience than constant
complaining. Nothing is perfect, so let's just keep on improving the imperfect
instead of unproductively bashing it.
Merry Christmas, see you all in the new year!
-Borries

Newsgroups: alt.native
From: beaver.cs.washington.edu!gnosys!vms.cis.pitt.edu!RASTROFF
Subject: Re: Northern Exposure
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 21:58:00 GMT

Original-Sender: vms.cis.pitt.edu!RASTROFF

I teach media studies to a lot of students who believe all the rhetoric they
hear that they think less well, and do less, than previous generations
because their minds have been destroyed by television.  I argue against that,
at the same time that I try to demonstrate how the corporate and organizational
structures of television do promote participation in the consumer culture, and
in fact reduce all sorts of potential to buying the right product (a current
ad on tv says, "Change your lifestyle?...[to resolve the problem of poor
digestions].. Nah!!! Take [whatever the product is, I can't remember]."

But I do continue to argue against the idea that "tv" -- and most people
mean the machine, or the act of watching tv -- is necessairly mindless or
mind-destroying.  A lot of the researchers who argue that -- and didn't
someone mention Neil Postman on natchat recently? he's one -- also say
that computers prevent us from writing, and from communication with other
human beings, and we on this network are all proof that it is how we USE
the technology, and who controls the technology, that inlfuences (but does
not totally determine) the results.

I know people who are very creative and who are teaching their children
to lead creative lives who have decided to not have tv in their homes.  I
also know creative people bringing up their children in moral and creative
environments who do have television at home.

As for Northern Exposure -- the representations of the Jewish character
drive me wild (I have found that character offensive more than once), and
that particular episode, as Lyn mentioned, spent a lot of time talking about
the terrible holocaust the Europeans inflicted on Native Americans.  I do
think, though, that the picture was prettied up by the response of the white
residents of Cecily -- smiling and wishing the tomato-throwers well -- but
then again, no one claims Northern Exposure and its characters are meants to
be representetive or "real".

The question then must deal with the types of representations constructed,
in the context of the history of represnetations of Native Americans, etc.,
and in the context of the products of the mainstream television industry.
By the way, it was on television that I once sayw -- sorry, saw -- an
amazing documentary reenacted by a band of Cree Indians in Canada about
the detoxification (in the sense of alcohol abuse) of their town.  Their
own actions and their own reprsentations of those actions.

Roberta Astroff
rastroff@pittvms

Newsgroups: alt.native
From: beaver.cs.washington.edu!gnosys!vms.cis.pitt.edu!RASTROFF
Subject: Re: Northern Exposure
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 17:44:00 GMT

Original-Sender: vms.cis.pitt.edu!RASTROFF

A reply to Peshewegunzh --

My job in no way relies on my taking aparticular attitude towrard the media,
in fact, many of the most vociferous critics of our mediated society are
professors of communication and media.  And, in fact, I have spent a lot of
my career showing or encouraging students to be critical in their media
use -- and by critical I mean analyzing the images they are presented with,
the origins and benficiaries of those images, and how the students themselves
and their lives are flooded with those images.

I do appreciate the serious nature of your reply, and will answer in kind --
there is no culture that does not create representations of its values,
conflicts, concerns, and pleasrues.  McLuhan wanted to argue that electronic
media -- because it was electronic media -- affected the way we process
what we see and hear.  He made the sme argument about print, by the way.
Though he saw the two media having different effects.  But a culture's myths,
legends, storytelling, songs, and all other creative expressions are all
representations of the culture and of differing segments of that culture.
I am less concerned about the machinery of television than being and helping
others to be a critical viewer.

I am also wary of claims that tv is a narcotic.  I think that trivializes the
devastating slavery of real addiction.  I find it significant that college
students don't watch much tv, that in the summer there are
fewer viewers, that people knit and quilt with the tv on and then knit and
quilt in groups.  We DO have the power to consider and design our own use of
technology.  Yes, as the quote from the Wall St. Journal shows, the powers
that be have their own agenda, one we must be aware of and one they have the
power to try to impose on us.

But it is also possible to use that technology is other ways.  Speaking of
native uses:  the Kayapo in Brazil use camcorders to present their presence,
needs, and demands to the world, and to make sure that they have records of
their dealings with miners, etc.  And the Seminole took sewing machines
and developed strip quilting, a system that is now being taught around the
United States as the foundation for qultmaking and design.

The struggle involved is clear, but let's acknowledge , along with the power
of the dominant culture, the power we have to rethink things.

Roberta

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From: beaver.cs.washington.edu!gnosys!anchor.esd.sgi.com!lyn (Lyn Dearborn)
Subject: Movies w/ Native Dominant Theme
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:47:28 GMT

Original-Sender: anchor.esd.sgi.com!lyn (Lyn Dearborn)

Michael Yahgulanaas commended on "Blackrobe" and said

> First Nations continue to function as a background, a
> scene where the important story unfolds. In this sense I see no
> difference between the the noble red savage myth we have all experienced
> or participated in,

As a more cheery note, particularly for this time of year, MOST of the
native community really liked "Windwalker" when it was out a few years ago.
It didn't do that well at the "box office" but we all enjoyed it.  While I'm
sure it was highly romanticised, the natives were everything but "in the back
ground" and it made the young kids feel good.  Most of them were not even
aware that the old man wasn't really an Indian, and it gave them pride and
a warm feeling inside ... which for our kids, I believe is important.

Sometimes "purity" (such as Incident at Oglala), while very educational,
does NOT impart any cultural warm or pride.

lyn

Hope that you all have a WARM holiday with loved ones and are able to help
those less fortunate than ourselves ...


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"We did not weave the web of life.  We   | Lyn Dearborn
are merely a strand in it.  Whatever     | Naturalist/Person
we do to the web, we do to ourselves"    | dearborn@anchor.esd.sgi.com
		Chief Seattle 1854
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From: ajd@oit.itd.umich.edu (Arthur Delano)
Newsgroups: alt.non.sequitur,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Goodbye
Date: 3 Jan 1993 23:32:03 GMT
Organization: finchhaus
NNTP-Posting-Host: helen.oit.itd.umich.edu

In article <1993Jan3.165640.2444@advtech.uswest.com> mgooley@advtech.uswest.com (Mark. Gooley) writes:
>I will not be posting to talk.bizarre or alt.non.sequitur for a while.
>Perhaps a bit of lurking and some e-mail responses, but no more.

two days.

place your bets now.

AjD
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                       ajd@oit.itd.umich.edu
"You'll never find happiness as a human being, kid." -- Suehiro Maruo
Newsgroups: alt.non.sequitur,talk.bizarre
From: gooley@netcom.com (Mark. Gooley)
Subject: apocalypse some other time, please: we're Dutch
Followup-To: alt.flame,alt.licker.store,alt.fan.gooley,alt.sex.carasso
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 03:33:31 GMT

	I had just settled down to a quiet morning of inserting tarantulas
up my nose when a raiding party of drunken Vikings battered down my door,
battened down the hatches, buttered up the landlord and the English muffins,
and tried to force-feed me with batter puddings.  Then they left, muttering
incoherent apologies and burning holes in the sheetrock walls with coherent
light beer made by the Boors' Crewing Company.
	She stepped into the room using her feet and legs.  She would have
been tall, almost a giantess, had she not been so short.  Her hair was
pure gold until she removed her gold-wire wig and revealed long, chocolate-
brown locks (as opposed to hair) made of salmon.  "You will come with me,"
she said in a pleading voice with a note (F# above middle C) of command in
it, written in green ink on a Post-It (tm).
	"Why not?" I said, getting up.
	"Because if you will not," she said, her voice oozing sexual allure
which she wiped up with a mop, "I will leave you to my Viking friends and
to my grandchildren in my will."
	"I was going to go with you anyhow," I said, and she spat in my face
with a spit-roasted chicken named Gabrielle.  She (the chicken, not the
woman)  had a degree in Medieval studies and we discuseed monateries and
Monster Trucks (first invented in 962 in Ireland, and pulled by draft horses
brewed by Guinness -- Sir Alec himself! -- and dispensed by Papal dispensation
at dispensaries scattered throughout the Emerald Aisle of the Dreary Lane
Theatre).
	After several hours of this the woman grew impatient and dragged me
off in drag to her drag racer full of bedraggled racists.  In hours we were
hundreds of yards away, in her house, dunking mice in hot coffee and biting
their heads off.  She had let me put on an ill-fitting tuxedo and massage
her insteps with raspberry jam from the Yukon.
 
Mark., inspiration is expired
gooley@netcom.com
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From: pfinerty@nyx.cs.du.edu (fun fun fun boy)
Subject: Re: Goodbye
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 01:27:39 GMT

In article <1i7t1jINNfrn@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> ajd@oit.itd.umich.edu (Arthur Delano) writes:
>In article <1993Jan3.165640.2444@advtech.uswest.com> mgooley@advtech.uswest.com (Mark. Gooley) writes:
>>I will not be posting to talk.bizarre or alt.non.sequitur for a while.
>>Perhaps a bit of lurking and some e-mail responses, but no more.
>
>two days.
>
>place your bets now.
>
500 quatloos, and i give him a week (5 days).
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Xref: sparky alt.non.sequitur:888 talk.bizarre:43398
From: mgooley@advtech.uswest.com (Mark. Gooley)
Newsgroups: alt.non.sequitur,talk.bizarre
Subject: Goodbye
Summary: no postings for a while
Date: 3 Jan 93 16:56:40 GMT
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies

I will not be posting to talk.bizarre or alt.non.sequitur for a while.
Perhaps a bit of lurking and some e-mail responses, but no more.

Mark.
gooley@netcom.com
mgooley@advtech.uswest.com
Newsgroups: alt.non.sequitur,alt.fan.gooley,alt.pets.chia,alt.fan.matt.welsh,alt.religion.kibology
From: jbore@cosmos.shearson.com (Joe Bore)
Subject: Re: Let there be Mite
Organization: Lehman Brothers
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 14:07:52 GMT

what about delta???


jb

In article <1992Dec31.050310.25305@tc.cornell.edu> mdw@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh) writes:

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Path: shearson.com!uunet!usc!rpi!batcomputer!db.TC.Cornell.EDU!mdw
   From: mdw@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
   Sender: news@tc.cornell.edu
   Nntp-Posting-Host: db.tc.cornell.edu
   Organization: Fear and Loathing: the Linux Gestapo
   Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 05:03:10 GMT
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   Instead of filling Mark's mailbox with any more of this tepid psychoranting 
   I'll instead shove it upon you, the gentle readers of the various newsgroups
   so named, and see what you think. There have been several things on my mind
   recently, and I think they need to come to light (or Mite, as wee shall see).

   Alpha. I am going blind, and have recently been informed that because of my
   selection of 4-pica fonts for each and every terminal, workstation, and 
   teletype that I work at during the day that my eyes are slowly elongating and
   producing multiple focal points, thus requiring me to get glasses.

   The lesson here, kids, is to use large screen fonts, even though they're 
   annoying. But that's beside the point.

   Beta. There are too many Blood Mites in the North American continent. I think
   that we need to look at this phenomenon more closely as we rush headlong into
   the 21st century, because along with an overpopulation of Blood Mites there
   is sure to be somewhere an underpopulation of blood, a supply-and-demand
   situation where the only winners are God and the dust from which we came. In
   other words, as the Blood Mite position in North America grows stronger, the
   ever-present supply of blood for said mites to feed upon will have to slowly
   diminish. This is a problem.

   And, Europe, don't think you're not vunerable, too. Blood Mites can and will
   travel on boats and indeed aircraft up to 30,000 feet. An infestation is at
   hand.

   Iota. If anyone tries to tell me that "Gamma" was really supposed to come next
   I will be upset.

   I'm completely open to suggestions on what we can do about the named cruxen
   above, and possibly some recipe ideas for my new Chia Herb Garden from the
   good folks over at alt.pets.chia.

   Thanks!

   mdw

   -- 
   Matt Welsh     mdw@tc.cornell.edu     Cornell Theory Center
     "It's a Katana, ya Midwestern Computer Geek." --Tom Payne
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Newsgroups: alt.non.sequitur,alt.fan.gooley,alt.pets.chia,misc.test,alt.fan.matt.welsh,alt.religion.kibology
From: klm@gozer.mv.com (Kevin L. McBride)
Subject: Re: I would like to wish everyone a...
Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.edu
Organization: GhostBuster Central - Southern NH Usenet Access, Nashua, NH
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 93 00:00:00 EST

mdw@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh) writes:

> In article <1992Dec31.180258.6737@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> bur@ultisol.gsfc.nasa.gov (MAC) writes:
> >
> >Happy New Year!
> >
> >
> >M - That means you too mdw, <wink><wink><nudge><nudge>

> In about 5 hours, we'll see.

> Someone get me net access, quick.

> mdw

> -- 
> Matt Welsh     mdw@tc.cornell.edu     Cornell Theory Center
>   "It's a Katana, ya Midwestern Computer Geek." --Tom Payne

Yabbut, to do it *right* you gotta either be able to forge the headers
or have 'at' post your article at precisely the right moment... like
this article.

Happy New Year!

-- 
Was it live or was it 'root'?
Newsgroups: alt.non.sequitur,talk.bizarre
From: gooley@netcom.com (Mark. Gooley)
Subject: plywood, all of you: only I am fiberglas (tm) and diurnal
Organization: The Gorilla-Shaped Cookie Trust, GmbH
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 20:44:18 GMT

	It was her turn to make lunch that day, and she sighed as she
amputated her silken legs made of silk, checked the tourniquets on the
stubs just to be sure, and adjusted the leg-spits in the ladies' room
-cum-kitchen.  After all that sighing she was silent as she roasted her
legs, basting them with chocolate sauce and a turkey baster (its glass
pulverized, its rubber bulb frozen to brittleness in liquid air and
smashed to tiny bits).
	After a successful lunch, she had herself reincarnated as a
little girl and took advantage of the child labor laws to take eleven
years of vacation at half pay.  With staples such as cornmeal, flour,
and rice she managed to make her old body's clothes fit well enough for
the time being (played by Tom Baker around then), and after a shopping
spree at J. C. Penile she had a Jean-Jacques Trousseau suitable for a
spoilt little girl who smelt of decay bacteria.  Then she went down to
Hitler-Earlobe, the child-rental agency, and registered herself with them
under the name Tiffany.
	My wife had always wanted a pretty little girl, but being robotic
she could not give birth to one.  One day she brought home Tiffany, who
was willing to be our daughter for a nominal fee of twice her old salary
and the sort of treatment we would give a real daughter.  We changed her
name to Muriel, had her hair lengthened and her accent made Canadian even
though I am Welsh and my wife was made in Singapore from a joint Japanese-
American design and has the appearance of a black woman, and gave her a
book summarizing the knowledge that she was supposed to have as our daughter.
The forgers worked on family photos, videos, old schoolwork and school
records, and within a year it was as if Muriel were our real daughter,
except when she called her stockbroker and talked in a hard and cynical
voice for an obscenity-laced hour.  The evenings when she walked the streets
in search of paying pedophiles were disconcerting as well, but we ignored
them.  She did well in school, and the years flew by, along with orthodontic
and abortion-clinic bills, treatments for venereal diseases and anal damage,
a cutting horse which gave up a lucrative career editing movies and charged
accordingly, stable and unstable fees, replacement urinary and reproductive
tracts, a consciousness-transfer when she became HIV-positive, more plastic
surgery to give her a semblance of the appearance and voice that we were
used to, and so forth.
	When our darling Muriel was eighteen, at least treating her as
seven when we first hired her, she became a duplicate of me, cleaned out
all of our assets, and escaped to a tax haven with no extradition treaty.
You raise a child, give her the best of everything, etc., but there's no
guarantee that she'll turn out well.  My wife had herself sold for spare
parts, and I became a wheel of cheddar cheese.

Mark.
gooley@netcom.com
Newsgroups: alt.non.sequitur,talk.bizarre
From: mdw@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Re: Goodbye
Organization: Jim's Burger Hut 
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 01:28:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.165640.2444@advtech.uswest.com> mgooley@advtech.uswest.com (Mark. Gooley) writes:
>I will not be posting to talk.bizarre or alt.non.sequitur for a while.
>Perhaps a bit of lurking and some e-mail responses, but no more.

Liar. We've been through this before, Mark. 

Prepare your termcaps. 

mdw
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  "It's a Katana, ya Midwestern computer geek." --Tom Payne
Newsgroups: alt.non.sequitur,alt.religion.kibology
From: mdw@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Short Shameful Sugar High
Organization: The Linux Inquisition, Propaganda Division
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 21:02:17 GMT

I just finished an entire roll of Tropical Fruit Life Savers [tm] in 34.2 
seconds flat. The coconut flavored ones were the best.

What do I win?

mdw

-- 
Matt Welsh     mdw@tc.cornell.edu     Cornell Theory Center
  "It's a Katana, ya Midwestern Computer Geek." --Tom Payne
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From: bur@ultisol.gsfc.nasa.gov (MAC)
Newsgroups: alt.non.sequitur,alt.fan.gooley,alt.pets.chia,alt.fan.matt.welsh,alt.religion.kibology
Subject: I would like to wish everyone a...
Date: 31 Dec 92 18:02:58 GMT
Organization: NASA/GSFC code 923




Happy New Year!


M - That means you too mdw, <wink><wink><nudge><nudge>
Newsgroups: alt.non.sequitur,alt.fan.gooley,alt.pets.chia,alt.fan.matt.welsh,misc.test,alt.religion.kibology
From: bur@ultisol.gsfc.nasa.gov (MAC)
Subject: Re: Let there be Mite
Reply-To: me@here.and.now
Organization: NASA/GSFC code 923
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 17:59:03 GMT

In article <JBORE.92Dec31100753@cosmos.shearson.com> jbore@cosmos.shearson.com (Joe Bore) writes:
>what about delta???
>
>
>jb
>

>>GIGA-PLONK<<

Newsgroups: alt.non.sequitur,talk.bizarre
From: russ@math.okstate.edu (R. Nomad)
Subject: I've said it before... (Re: Goodbye)
Organization: Aggie? What precisely is an Aggie?
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 23:32:32 GMT

In <1993Jan3.165640.2444@advtech.uswest.com> mgooley@advtech.uswest.com (Mark. Gooley) writes:

>I will not be posting to talk.bizarre or alt.non.sequitur for a while.
>Perhaps a bit of lurking and some e-mail responses, but no more.

Bets?

-Random
periodicity, a month and closing in fast
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