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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:37:48 EST
From:         Chris Marshall <XP53@IONA.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: ROTCOD

> > > Hey all youse---order I.N.#7 from the ROTCOD if you want to be cooler than
> > > cool.
> >
> > Qu'est-que c'est ROTCOD?
> >
>
> Hey Chris, you forgot the last "que"!!!  Watch out or your degree will be

Oops. Sorry .... typed too fast for my own good.

> ROTCOD ZZAJ = well, read it sdrawkcab and then you'll know.

Sounds like an extremely cool cat ...


>
> It seems he's been really busy over there on the underside of the earth becaus
> he hasn't been posting lately (HEY ZZAJ, WHERE ARE YOU? WHAT ARE YOU? EXPLAIN
> YOURSELF TO THIS GENTLEMAN)...  ZZAJ is a fabulous wild keyboard man who has
> lots of exciting tapes for sale and also publishes Improvijazzation Nation, a
> newsletter devoted to improv (and rotten poetry: some of my own is going to
> appear and I'm already drenched in embarrassment, oi vey).  Send him a private
> e-mail at: DMetcalf%IC-LOG@WALKER-LTT.Army.Mil.  You WON'T regret it.
>
> Little Wing: I think the Skid Row cover that is on the air waves is TOTALLY
> PATHETIC and I almost fall out of the car everytime it comes on.
>
> Carol, tell us more about the charming creature of the amphibious variety: did
> you purchase a studly young carp to take home with you?
>
> Your Tilted Kilt tape arrived and it is .... (damn, I am suffering a paucity o
> adjectives... it's easy to talk about things when they're lousy but when
> they're great, just WHAT do you say?  I've over-used fabulous, inspiring,
> thrilling.... Anyway, it is .... WONDERFUL ..oh brother, I need a new
> thesaurus--my old one has been squeezed dry).  That Celtic stuff really
> stirs up this Old Testament soul.  I think I used to be a druid.
>
>    So the Bloomdodo-bird DOES actually exist?  I thought he was some sort
> of hyper-brain-cell-ectoplasm that crystallized over a keyboard on the eastern
> seaboard.
>
> Sonia "Hey Hey Let's Hear It For Joaquin Des Pres"
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 10:06:55 CST
From:         Paul Heroy <HEROY@LSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Election/Triumph
              5 Nov 1992 10:19:00 EST from <gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>

On Thu, 5 Nov 1992 10:19:00 EST <gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL> said:
>From: SPGDAM%UCCVMA.BITNET@pucc.princeton.edu at INTERNET 11/4/92 7:48AM (1
>Subject: Re: Silence
>
>>David "Don't blame me- I voted for Ross Perot"
>
>Hey, me too. Glad Bush is out though.

Just for kicks, I flipped the lever for Perot - then flipped it back. If, in
4 years, things aren't working, I can always say "Hey, *I* flipped the lever
for Perot!" and not be lying. Now, *voting* for him is another matter... ;-)

>Subject: Triumph
>I do wonder about Rik's influence. I was not at all impressed with his solo
>album as a whole. How is the second one? How did you get a copy? I had to send
>$25 to the record company, and am still waiting for it.

Ya know, I actually had a local record store special order his first one for
me. When it came in, I looked at it, and something just whispered in my ear,
"Don't do it man, it'll be a big disappointment. No teeth." I don't know if
it was the tune titles, cover, or what, but I walked back to the bins and
put it back (surprisingly, they actually had a Rik Emmet placard) and left.
Sounds like that little voice was right.

Paul Heroy
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 23:36:03 -0800
From:         Raymond Keller <rkeller@EIS.CALSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Fret buzz from Hell

Can anyone help me, please?

I just bought a Takamine Jasmine C28 acoustic nylon-strung guitar.  I
noticed it had some fret buzzing on a couple strings, so naturally I
returned it to have that fixed.  The retailer opted to return it for a new
one.  I got the new guitar and it seemed fine.  I noticed it had a very
slight buzz on a couple frets of the D string.  I mentioned this to the
store owner, but didn't ask to have it repaired.  Now that I've got the
guitar home, it appears to have pretty bad fret buzzing on the E, A, and D
strings on several frets.

Is there an acclimation period in which guitars settle down into a buzzing
or non-buzzing state?  Am I possibly doing something wrong in the way I
treat the guitar?  (I keep it at room temperature and modest humidity and
handle it with care--cost me over $300.)  Is this brand of guitar noted
for lots of fret buzzing?  Am I playing it wrong?  (It doesn't buzz with
normal classical picking.  It buzzes mostly when I use my thumb and
strum.)  The G string sounds a little dead, too.  I think that might be a
buzz-related problem.

I don't want to be a pain in the music store owner's neck, but I want a
quality instrument that will last.  Any tips or comments?

RSK -- The novice in search of a good axe.
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 18:55:41 EST
From:         Ilia <CC29@IONA.BITNET>
Subject:      Qs...

Well, dear intelligent and knowledgeable Allmusicers! I continue to
contribute to our FAQ list (actually, its Q part :)). I've two
queries for now:

   1. Since I joined the list, nobody ever mentioned CAN (well, I think,
Carol included one song by them in her compilation tape - this reassures
me that the band actually exists). So, if you, people, know anything
about their fate that you care to share with your russian buddy - go
ahead. I am also interested in your opinions about their various albums.
+ I would especially appreciate if somebody sends me a list of songs on
_Landed_.

   2. Long-long ago I posted a query about Gentle Giant. The only
response I got was Michael's promise to talk about them later. So,
if you are still there, I am still interested.

         Ilia.


ONMC: regarding this fag post - I always wanted to know who hides under
the disguise of "Revised List Processor" (and don't tell me it's a
program - I won't believe you anyway :)). Whoever he/she/it is, I think,
he/she/it should wake up and take some actions to eliminate crap like
that. If necessary, I can share my extensive experience of censorship
acquired during uneasy years of existance in my native land. :)
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 11:50:00 CDT
From:         MIKE <VANVMIKE@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Public Enemy

Date sent:  5-NOV-1992 11:48:25
>    "No no no! That's not the point!" I splutter. "The point is can you apply
>         this 'accepted standard morals' gambit in your condemnation of PE
>         and let the other musical acts off scott-free, even though they too
>         have been blasted by people who've had their feathers ruffled by the
>         messages put forth, and who are scared of the dire impact that the
>         music will have on the legions of impressionable youth who buy the
>         records?"
>             (at which point I step down from the podium and I put down that
>              pointer for God's sake before I poke somebody's eye out.)

Personally I don't want a racist future.  Do you?

>  As far as the world being turned upside down as a result of buying Public
>Enemy records, uhhh... heh... heh heh A HA HAH AHAHAH HAH AHAHAAH... uh. whew.
>*ahem* Sorry Mike for losing it for a second. I'm not laughing AT you, I'm
>laughing WITH you.
>Rick

To tell you the truth, I had a laugh myself when I wrote that.

Mike
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 10:56:31 CST
From:         A22596@ITESO.BITNET
Subject:      About Folk Music, and others...

I'm a new suscriber, and I notice that discussions jump 'round the same:
R.E.M. and Heavy.

Since this list is supposed to give a chance for all the guys that want to
speak about their musical preferences, there is no reason for bumping when
they speak about something different from Hevy or R.E.M.

So, I join my words to Hammer's, who says that folk music shows roots of a
musical culture, and if Country Music is classified as this, is 'cause of
its Irish roots... A sample? listen Paul McArtney's MULL OF KINTYRE and compare.

Something different:

Is there someone that can tell me if Andreas Vollenweider's music is New Age?
and more:
Who can recomend a good Soul singer?


Shalom.

          Mario A. Calderon
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 08:56:10 CST
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: ROCK AND ROLL

On Wed, 11 Nov 1992 09:50:30 EST Ilia said:
>
>Speaking of influence: strange as it may seem, I think that Deep Purple
>had much bigger impact on music than LZ (judjing simply by the number
>of people who sound like both bands). But now people with supposedly
>good taste are kind of embarrased to even mention Deep Purple (of
>course, MHB is an exception). Another taboo?

Funny you should mention Deep Purple (BTW Lazy was a wonderful song)
a friend's daughter plays guitar and hit a few notes of "smoke on the..etc"
so i showed her how to play it, for a such any easy song it sure sounded cool
when it was new....neat riff....Machine Head was a good Album..I'm not sure
if they had a bigger influence than LZ though...But i don't care one way or the
other....If somone is influenced by Zep i hope it's muscially and not ethically
:-)........IMHO both bands are better than most of todays "popular" bands who
play that type of music...................L.W.
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:36:00 CDT
From:         G_SWANK@TWU.BITNET
Subject:      Hopkins and Cale

The girl who sang "Those Were The Days" was Mary Hopkins, a Beatles
protege and (partially successful) Marianne Faithfull clone.

John Cale has been a hero of mine for years. I remember reading a story
about him when he was in school (maybe Tanglewood?) where one of his
performances consisted of him placing a potted plant on top of his piano
and screaming at it till it died.  Sorry to have missed the NPR thing
this morning. I haven't heard the new record yet, but from what I understand
it's him doing solo renditions of songs from all his albums over the years.
The last time I saw him live, this is what he did, along with some inspired
covers. I enjoyed it, but don't know how it would sound on record minus
the sight if him sitting there playing and singing (and sometimes screaming)
staring at nothing through his mirrored shades.  He's put out a lot of great
music over the years, but I guess my favorites are from the seventies:
"Vintage Violence" "Fear" "Slow Dazzle" "Helen of Troy". I think Eno helped
out on those middle two. He also produced first albums by the Stooges, Modern
Lovers and Patti Smith to name a few. Whatta guy. I'm gonna go right out &
buy the new one on general principle.

Sallie "Sane fear is a man's best friend"

Oh yeah, "Paris 1919" is beautiful as well
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 09:01:24 MEZ
From:         Hosko <RMCB@DLRVM.BITNET>
Subject:      AAD-ADD-DDD-DigRem-DigMas-DigReMix-Help!

  In the good old(?) days when CDs were something new they used to
label them with AAD/ADD/DDD (no mention of this usually implied AAD).
When I bought a CD that contained DDD then I would expect the
quality of the recording to be a lot better than one with AAD - and
it was. I used to find this an extra incentive to buy the CD. Everything
was nice and simple.
  Then one day along came the terms 'Digially Remastered (DigRem)' and
'Digitally Remixed (DigReMix)'. DigReMix in its simplest form means that
they've turned an AAD into an ADD, but as the music has been remixed there
could be differences between this new version and the original one.
For example, Zappa's 'Hot Rats' is now ADD and the mix is sometimes
very different to the LP version. So I learned to be cautious of DigReMixed
CDs.
  It's usually AADs that are DigRem'ed and they stay AAD. What's changed is
the end mastering - the bass/treble levels tailored to suit CDs, and
maybe some sort of noise reduction (like on the Hendrix CDs). Because the
mix is left unaltered I consider this a good thing, and most DigRem'ed CDs
that I have sound 'cleaner' than the original versions. The most dramatic
example of this that I have witnessed is the DigRem'ed version of Simply
Red's 1st. album 'Picture Book'. I had decided that I wouldn't rush out
and replace all my LPs with CDs, but wait for then to be DigRem'ed. All
was going very nicely, first the Beach Boys, then the Allman Bros., then
King Crimson, Atomic Rooster, Simply Red - "no problem" I thought.
  Now comes the confusion: Some CDs I've seen recently say that they have
been 'Digitally Mastered' - what exaclly does this mean? I was under the
impression that all CDs are digitally mastered, and an analog mastered CD
is impossible!  Yet, on the newer releases of Bob Marley's albums, for
example, it says 'Digitally mastered by Fred Bloggs' (or whoever) which
implies a newer, better quality CD. Is this true, or is this just the
record companies pulling the wool over our eyes again?
  In the meantime some record companies have said that they will no longer
mark CDs as AAD/ADD/DDD - why?  Could it be that ADD/DDD CDs sell better
that AADs or is it just that this system is out of date, and that a new
one is needed?

Any comments, anyone?

Hosko
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:42:58 -0500
From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Madrigals...

Ken responds....

>>. . . . I agree that madrigals are great - although I don't like
>>French Chanson as much, they are a close second. I tie the Italian and
>>English for first! Which are your favorites?
>>
>Easy.  Morley's canzonets, Gibbons' "The Silver Swan", Weelkes' "Hark All Ye
>Lovely Saints", Byrd's "Browning", anything by de Lasso, Certon, or Sermisy.
>East and Campion.  Oh heck--anything by Morley.  "It was a Lover and His Lass"
>Bunches of other broken consort stuff.  Isaac.  Des Prez.  If you are a
>recorder player, you gotta love that stuff, you see.  Nearly as much fun
>is Burgundian music from, say 1410-1480.

I'll agree on the Gibbons. I like Weelkes in general, although I don't know
the one you mentioned. Have you ever looked at the "La Amoroso Ero"
collection? If you don't know it - reply to this and I'll tell you. It's
really neat...

Some of my faves-

"weep O Mine Eyes" - Bennett
"Sing We And Chant It" - Morley (hackneyed, i know, but I love it!!)
"I Will Not Leave you Comfortless" - Byrd
"Ecco Mormorar L'onde" - Monteverdi (I think...)
"All Ye Who Music" - Donato
"The Lady Oriana" - and i've forgotten who's version it is that Ilove so
much!
"All Creatures Now Are Merry minded" - ditto above...
"L'Amorosa Ero" - Marenzio

BTW - for all you choral minded folk...I'd like to hear nominations for
your favorite choral piece - esp. one's you've performed...It doesn't
necesarily have to be the best piece ever...just one you really love!

My vote oges to Randall Thompson's "Alleluia", although Britten's "Rejoice
in the Lamb", Vivaldi's "Gloria", Beethoven's 9th, Handel's "Zadok The
Priest" and Dello Joio's "A Jubilant Song", along with the abovementioned
madrigals round out my favorite group...

Marsha "Damn I miss singing!!" Ferziger
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:11:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      Fripp in Gabriel's band

>From:         "OUT,
>              OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>

>        Also, for fans: in the tour that supported PG's 1st release, Fripp
>actually was on guitar on most shows. He played behind a wall of amps, hid-
>den from the audience, and was introduced as "Dusty Road". No-one ever men-
>tioned his name. And several people are ready to swear he was absolutely
>crappy too.

When Gabriel played Detroit on that tour (w/ Television as the opening
act), Fripp was quite visible sitting on his stool.  In fact, as the
curtains opened, a guy in the front row leaped to his feet, screaming
"Fripp!".  Bob quickly skidded his stool a bit further back.

The only complaint I had about his playing that evening was not enough
guitar solos. 8-)

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 09:01:00 EST
From:         gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL
Subject:      re: Styx

Bob T sez:

>I'm curious about your choice of _Caught In The Act_ as one of your favourites
>of all time...Growing up in Montreal, "Suite Madame Blue" was just about as
>big as "Stairway to Heaven" in high school. I was (still am) a big fan of
>their middle stage albums..._Equinox_, _Crystal Ball_, _Grand Illusion_ and
>_Pieces of Eight_. I was disappointed with _Cornerstone_, even more so with
>_Paradise Theatre_ and absolutely loathed _Kilroy Was Here_. I didn't pay too
>much attention to _Caught In The Act_ because I never thought of Styx as a
>great live act (saw them once and they were decent). I don't think I've ever
>heard a song off that live album...

I agree with everything you said about Styx. "Suite Madame Blue" did not get
overplayed when I was growing up. It is one of my all-time favorite songs.
Whatever you do, do not buy _Edge Of The Century_. This was their latest. I
bought this CD because I liked one song (can't even remember it). The rest of
the album is trash.

>Do you like it as a live album or more as a "greatest hits" compilation (I'm
>not sure what songs are on it, but I assume most of the biggies are there)?
>Do they have a lot of their old stuff on it? Or do they concentrate more on
>songs like the dreaded "Too Much Time on my Hands" (shudder, shudder...).

Styx does have a greatest hits album. It was put out by A&M records as one of
their anniversary specials. I have it. It has like 17 songs on it. It has some
of the crap on it (like "Too Much Time On My Hands" etc.). But it also has the
good stuff like "Crystal Ball", "Light Up", "Suite Madame Blue", and a live
version of "Miss America" taken from _Caught In The Act_. I have only seen this
CD available from the BMG CD Club. It has all the Styx classics except "Lady"
mainly because...

>While I'm at it, anyone know much about their first 4 albums? _Styx_, _Styx
>II_ (with "Lady"), _The Serpent is Rising_ and _Man Of Miracles_ (?)...Worth
>picking up in a bargain bin?

...I believe the first 2 albums were released on Wooden Nickel Records. I
started really liking Styx back in the _Grand Illusion_ days and I have never
ever anywhere seen _Styx_ or _Styx II_. The only thing I have from them is a 45
of "Lady." So good luck on finding them.

Seeya,
Gary
"You were the apple of the public eye, as you cut the ribbon at the local
 mall..."
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Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 1992 15:58:10 CST
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From:         Little Inquisitor <U33963@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Mailing List: Rolling Stones

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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 11:11:00 EST
From:         gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL
Subject:      CDs Sharrock / Pantera

Recent CDs - Part One

Sonny Sharrock  _Ask The Ages_, _Seize The Rainbow_

I can safely say that _Ask The Ages_ is the only album I own where a guy
makes a Saxaphone sound like a pig screaming in heat. Wow! I still haven't
decided which I like better on this album, Sharrock on guitar or Pharoah
Sanders on the sax. I am still getting used to, what seems to me, the hap
hazard style of Sharrock's music. So, so far my fave is "Who Does She Hope
To Be?". I can listen to guitar like that all day long.

I finally did find _Seize The Rainbow_ (at the same store where the guy told
me it was out of print). I haven't listened to it that much yet. Not like
the metal head I am, I don't like it is much as _ATA_. It's completely
different though, no sax at all, much harder. "Dick Dogs" is actually a metal
song in disguise on a jazz album. :-)

Pantera  _Vulgar Display Of Power_

This is hard heavy metal right up your ass. They make Metallica sound like
the Beach Boys. Seriously, actually, some of this music sounds like Metallica.
The first 2 minutes of "Hollow" sounds a lot like "Fade To Black" by Metallica.
There are other similarities, more subtle, all over the album. My 3 favorite
songs are "Fucking Hostile", "This Love", and "Hollow." FH is speed, tons of
lyrics slammed into under a 3 minute song. "This Love" is unlike any other
song I know: acoustic mellow verses, and super heavy chorus with the Pantera
scream, back and forth the whole song. "Hollow" starts out mellow, but
doesn't stay that way for long.

<Heavy Metal mode on>

Yo, dude(tte)s!!!! Does anyone have the newest album by Pantera!?!?!? This
album kicks some major fuckin' ass!!!!!!!!!!! It's awesome!!!! Philip Anselmo
is the best fuckin' vocalist I have ever heard!!!! He screams the fuckin'
vocals, mostly. "This Love" is the best motherfucking song ever!!!!!!!!!!

Panterafuckinrulz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<Heavy Metal mode off>

Whew! That feels good sometimes.
Anyway, this is a must for any metal head.
Anyone have their first album _Cowboys From Hell_? Any comments?

Seeya,
Gary
"Read between the lines, criticize the words they're selling.
 Think for yourself and feel the walls become sand beneath your feet."
- Queensryche
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:52:05 EST
From:         Rick <MMLRICK@UBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Anyone recognized these lyrics?
              11 Nov 1992 15:02:03 -0500 from <jkh2001@ANDY.BGSU.EDU>

>>Hey there Allmusic addicts!  I was wondering if anyone might know
>>these lyrics.  I cant remember all of them, but here a few from memory....
>>
>>        Sunshine go away today, I don't fell like singing......
>>
>>Verse?  How much does it cost? I'll buy it.
>>
>>Who sings this?
Jeremy's guess:
>I think it's a Cat Stevens tune, but I'm not sure.

Nope. It was Jonathan Edwards. Kinda has that Cat Stevens crust in his voice,
however. Good guess.
Rick
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