From: ez000281@hamlet.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Humanitarian, Cuba, Et Al.
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:56:19 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

In <1992Aug20.045906.18514@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> Mario  Torres writes:

>To my dear friend Edelmiro:
>                           I want to make this short and
>factual because it's something your arguments lack!!.
>It bothers you to have someone from Canada meddle with
>the internal goings-ons of US politics?. Well, imagine
>how the million of progressive Latin-Americans(you are
>obviously excluded because you are a "yanki"[Irony intended])
>feel after having their destinies decided in washington?.

Just as it bothers you having some yanqui meddling with the internal affairs 
of Cuba.  You see, once you balieve in something you should be consistent in 
its application, so if you didn't understand the irony behind the original post 
(which you did not rebuke) it's not my fault.  As the millions of 
"progressives" a la Daniel and Camarada Gonzalo, I didn't know you considered 
them yanqui slaves whose "destinies" were under their control. Perhaps we 
should delcare Latin America a territory of the U.S. and then reality would be 
more in line with legal structure.

>I, like Marcus, am also a Canadian and I assure you that
                         ^^^^^^^^^^^
>paranoia regarding Cuba and Castro that has permeated every
>level of society in the US is unknown to us(Canadians).
                                          ^^^

Canadian!  Mr. MARIO TORRES!   Lucky for me, I was begining to feel alone and 
think that I was the olny latino who though he was a native son of the U.S.A. 
but fortunately there are also asimilados in Canada.  See Jose, you can also be 
latino and at the same time be Canadian, so let us Puerto Ricans who have a 
second "country" feel at ease.

>If
>you, by any strecth of your imagination, believe that ra-
>tification of the Free Trade Agreement is something that
>is making us lose some sleep; believe no more because
>Free Trade Agreement is extremely unpopular among Cana-
>dians. The fact that the Prime Minister refused to call
>for a referendum on that issue demonstrates that the
>present Canadian gov't did not think it would get the
>approval of canadians to go ahead. 

Yeah.  But you are talking myth not reality, for it happens to be that your 
Canadian rep. happened to sign the thing, just as he did with the previous US 
Canada pact on trade relations.  And by the way arguments like yours were the 
ones that the opposiotion brought up in their futile effort to prevent Canada 
from becoming a U.S. trade "partner" (ie. a norther province as the opposition 
forewarned).  So, perhaps I am thinking in line with those who approved the 
previous pact when I say that Canada is our northern "province" 

>We are happily
>and voluntarily enjoying our relationship with Cuba
>and they are definitely going to become more intensive
>due to the embargo imposed by the US. 

You mean Canadian profits from the exploitation of the Cuban masse will 
increase on behalf of the embargo. I wonder who really is behind the embargo? 
The Cuban right or Canadian buisinessmen?

>Moreover, I confess
>that I sat down and gave thought to an insinuation by
>another fellow netter about us Canadians being jealous of the
>US. I concluded that it was the other around!!. Who in the
>world would want to have the reputation the US have??. 

Let's see...what about your Majesty's country for starters. Better yet, I 
think the Quebecoise are tremendously fond of the Government in Ottawa and soon 
their government will want to enjoy our reputation.

>Not
>us Canadians for sure!!. 

In a few years you should submit this to popular vote and perhaps you might 
even loose.

>We still want to be civilized and
>live in a more egalitarian society. Correct me if I am wrong
>but the way you talk about Canada as being just an extension
>of the US(the northern provinces...???????) demonstrates your
>own parochialism. Canada is sovereign country (in case you
>didn't know!!) and NO!! we do not want to be US citizens,
>we are proud enough to have our own country.
>To counter your predictable accusation!!, No! I am not a
>communist!! 

I would never think that Canadians are blood sucking communist.  In fact, they 
simply aid communist countries in the same way Mr. Bush adore the butchers of 
Tianamen all for comercial purposes.  If things go in Mr. Castro's way Cuba 
will not be a U.S. colony, it will be Canadian.

>I am just a person who believes that the
>world would be a better place if we respect each other
>instead of dictating upon the weak.

By the way Mario, did you see the excellent role our Canadian allies played in 
Desert Storm.  They really beat the shit out of that weakling dictator in 
exchange for a piece of the oil market which Canada depends on.  Well see you 
later my Desert Storm partner. 

>
>                                  Truly yours
>                                   M.T.
>PS: This summer I am going to visit Havana, do you wish me
>to bring you some souvenirs?????????

Please, I'll pay for the costs! Here's my list:

1.- A box of Cuban Rum
2.- A video of the female dancers from the Copacabana, and any of the 
strippers    in the vecinity.
3.- Some plutonium from the plant near Cienfuegos.
4.- The menu of your hotel.
5.- A doll of the Commandante
6.- Some of Castro's hair

Bon Voyage on your trip to Canada's whorehouse in the Caribbean!



Edelmiro