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From: mvishnu@morse.uwaterloo.ca (m vishnu)
Subject: Re: kaaval theivam
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:20:40 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.174238.8826@engage.pko.dec.com> thiyagarajan@mims.enet.dec.com (My name is...) writes:
>
>In article <BstsIB.Ht7@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>, mvishnu@morse.uwaterloo.ca (m vishnu) writes...
>>I have to agree with you fully with your above view.   The Tamil (language/
>>region/people/etc) became known popularly to the outside world due
>>to the Tamil's struggle for self-determination in Sri-lanka and NOT by the
>>literary quality of the Tamil movies produced in TN.
>> 
>Popular in what sense? Because of increasing no of innocent refugees searching 
>for better life in Europe/canada?(you can see many news item about this)
> or because of the killings?

Can you please give some examples of these news items ?  For your information,
Sri-lankan Tamils are ONE OF THE VERY FEW groups of people recognized as
refugees in Canada and other Western countries.  That should tell you 
something about the gravity of the ethnic problem in Sri-lanka.

For example, one can read a very recent book by an American author,
Mcgowan Williams "The only man is vile: The tragedy of Sri-lanka", for
an eye-witness account of the plight of Tamils in the hand of IPKF and
the Sri-lankan military.  The author is one of the few correspondant 
who managed to sneek into Jaffna, when a massive crime against the Tamils 
was committed by the IPKF (slaughter of doctors and patients in the 
Jaffna hospital) and no reporters were allowed into the Jaffna peninsula. 

>If you say the word 'Tamil' to any westerner he will think of Tamils as holding
>guns and taking the first boat to west.

You too have taken the first boat to the west and it won't be long before
you post a 'green card enquiry' in SCI (if you haven't got one yet).

Compared to that there is nothing wrong if a Tamil from SL seeks asylem in the
west, especially considering the fact that 17,000 (a figure quoted in the
above book) Tamils were killed since 1983.
>
>RT

Meenan Vishnu
From: chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Curious Inquiry!
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:23:21 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

There was a proposal some time ago to move capital of TN
from Madras to Thirchy, because Thircy is located at the
center of the state, as opposed to Madras's location at the
nothern tip. What happened to such proposal? Just curious.

---Sree
From: sundar@indigo1.hsis.uci.edu (M. Sundaramoorthy)
Subject: Re: Dark Future for Professional Services in TN?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:16:49 GMT
Distribution: world 

In article <Bt717D.Iqo@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (Srinivasan K.) writes:
>
>Does anybody know how the forwardness will be determined?
>(i) caste of father (ii) caste of mother if different
	It is caste of the father.

>(iii) whether or not the person if man had yagnopaveetham (pooNool)
	
	This is an interesting question. There is a folklore about this.
	When one goes for interview, the interviewer puts his hand on the
	shoulder in a friendly chat, 'enna thambi....' and tries to feel
	whether he is wearing pooNool or not. I heard this from people on  
	either side.

>(iv) whether or not he does Sandhya Vandhanam
>(v) kudumi is no longer a criterion I suppose
	
	Dr. Srinivasan you are mistaken. 'Forward caste' not only is
	Brahmin, but also veLLaLar, reddy, balija (remember, Periyar
	was born in balija naayakkar family), kammaa, chettiyaar (
	kOmutti, naattukkOttai, vaaNiyar etc). kongu vELaaLa gounders
	were also 'forward' once and were included in backward list
	during DMK regim in 70s. But only Brahmins make a 'big issue'
	out of this.  
		
	The verification is necessary only if one claims he/she is backward
	or SC/ST. One has to get a certificate from the revenue official
	at 'Thashildaar' rank. The joke is there is no permanant certificate
	like thing. Fresh certificate should be obtained  everytime one
	applies.      

	No verification is necessary for 'forward caste' people. In otherwords
	if one doesn't have the backward/sc/st certificate he/she will be
	considered as forward irrespective of the actual caste.
  
>
>KS

M. Sundaramoorthy
sundar@indigo1.hsis.uci.edu

 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: meena@top.cis.syr.edu (Meenakshi Arunachalam)
Subject: Re: Arupadai Veedugal!
Organization: Syracuse University, CIS Dept.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 16:55:26 EDT

In article <1992Aug11.130406.1@vax1.umkc.edu> mguruswami@vax1.umkc.edu (Murugavel Guruswami) writes:
>In article <1992Aug10.224737.23039@ms.uky.edu>, aras@ms.uky.edu (P. I. Arasu) writes:
>> I can recollect Tiruchendur, Palani, Swami Malai,
>> Thirutani as four of the six abodes of Murugan.
>> Can someone fillup the rest?
>> 
>> -arasu
>-- 
>I think it is - Thirupparamkundram and Maruthamalai. Some one correct me if I
>am wrong.
>
 Pazhamuthirsolai is surely one of the "aaru padai veedugal"!
 It is a very beautiful place, true to its name it was surrounded 
 by a natural garden full of wild flowers and trees. This was when
 I visited the place many years back. 

 And, I don't think Maruthamalai is one of the aaru padai veedu. 

>Anbudan
>--Murugavel
>

-meena
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar)
Subject: Re: The discrimination in Sri Lanka
Organization: CSIRO Division of Info Tech, Sydney, Australia
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 22:26:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.132120.24549@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> 5700aa@gmuvax2.gmu.edu ( ) writes:
>
>"Sri Lankan Government discriminated against Tamil"
>
>How big the lie is ?
>
>Who enjoys more than 90% of the resources in Sri Lanka ?
>
>What these liars are looking for ?
>

My friend, define discrimination. Discrimination is not just
enjoying the resources. Its more than that. Preventing tamils
from entering colleges is discrimination. Preventing tamils from
entering or advancing in their position is discrimination. Your
statement appears as though tamils in SL are just fighting the
SL Govt. for fun !!!

Cheers,

V R Kumar

-- 
 V.R.Kumar (Ramkumar Venkatachalam)                                 
 CSIRO, Division of Information Technology                         
 P.O.Box:1599, Macquarie Centre, North Ryde, NSW 2113, AUSTRALIA  

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: prem@cs.montana.edu (M.P.Premkumar)
Subject: Re: A THREAT from a boneless tiger in the net
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 22:17:59 GMT

In article <e8yO02zd1eMp01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> fca00@chennai.ccc.amdahl.com (A. Francis Chandran) writes:
>In article <1992Aug20.144243.4702@coe.montana.edu> prem@cs.montana.edu (M.P.Premkumar) writes:
>  
>    [stuff deleted]
>
>>>
>>
>>Very very brave of him. I thought LTTE was made of brave young people. But they
>>have time and again proved to be coward, cunning, spineless, selfish, hate 
>>mongers. I am not surprised at all.
>
>
>   ...if the above message was really posted by some ltte guy or 
>      its official spokesman. As somebody previously pointed out
>      this most probably is a forgery.
>
>>
>>What does other Srilankans have to say regarding this threat ?
>
>      What do you insinuate here ? why should all srilankans come
>      up with an apology. not all srilankans are ltte supporters.

Sorry for being ambiguous. I was just asking what happened. In fact Mr. Meenan
Vishnu clarified saying that it was a forged mail. I never asked for an apology 
from all Srilankans. And I know that all Srilankans are not LTTE supporters as I
have so many Srilankan friends who do not support LTTE.

>
>
>                                     -francis.


Sincerely yours, 
M.P.Premkumar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: Venkatachalam Aruna  (Affable)
Subject: Re: Bharathiyar's songs in Movies
Reply-To: aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu (Venkatachalam Aruna)
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 23:24:24 GMT

In article <fb78.713830388@sol.acs.unt.edu> fb78@sol.acs.unt.edu (Ganesh  
Gopalakrishnan) writes:
> gt6060a@prism.gatech.EDU (Rangaswamy Rajamanickam) writes:
[ list of songs and a good evaluation of k.O.t deleted]

 I guess the movie 'nAm iruvar' is also full of Bharathiar songs.

Cheers,
Venkat

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From: kravi@uceng.UC.EDU (Ravishankar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Air Fares to Madras
Keywords: ?
Date: 19 Aug 92 00:14:21 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Cincinnati

I have enquired a few travel agents about air fares to Madras
for the month of December (later half of Dec).

Most of them seem to be suggesting to go by either MAS  or SAS.
They typically quote rates of around about $1550/- including the
charge for the credit card.

Is this a reasonable amount for the trip or do you know of any
travel agent who quotes lesser than the above ?  I would like to get
more information on this.

Thanks in advance..
From: nraju@usc.edu (Narayanan Raju)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Dear Mr. Meenan
Date: 17 Aug 1992 17:43:37 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: nunki.usc.edu

Dear Mr. Meenan,

In one of your articles on periyar you say that, Periyar, while in congress,
was against alcohol. Thats true. However, he changed his position, in 1940's,
after he quit the congress. He went on to consume alcohol.
	refer
	"andha iniya nattakal"--BY Karunanidhi

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
From: raj@utkvx4.utk.edu (S. KANAKA RAJ)
Subject: Re: I HATE TAMILS (2) (Respect other's)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:39:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.055657.10740@news.uiowa.edu>,
rachada@icaen.uiowa.edu (Ramakrishna Chada) writes...

>I have just expressed my opinion and I dont understand where I said that my
>ideas are superior. Stop being delirious.

"Hey idiotic Tamilians. Learn Indhi which is such a great language. You are 
losing your life without learning it." This is what people who try to impose
Indhi say. Now do they not mean that Indhi is superior to other languages? I
would like to see Samaskridham (Sanskrit) being taught in schools which is
indeed ONE of the rich languages; but not Indhi which is first of all not a
pure language. It is a masaala language.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

   I respect my mother does not mean that I hate the mothers of others.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: rao@uts.amdahl.com (Madhavan Rangarao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: tamil writer P.S.R. Rao
Date: 21 Aug 92 21:55:46 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Hi netters,

Does anybody have heard of this author above.  What is his field?  How 
good is he?  Any good books written by him?

Appreciate your info'

Have fun ...

Rao     rao@uts.amdahl.com
From: 5700aa@gmuvax2.gmu.edu ( )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: The discrimination in Sri Lanka
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:42:40 GMT
Organization: GMU


In article <1992Aug13.222606.25433@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU>
kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Ku
mar) writes:
>
>In article <1992Aug12.132120.24549@gmuvax2.gmu.edu>
5700aa@gmuvax2.gmu.edu ( ) wr
>ites:
>>
>>"Sri Lankan Government discriminated against Tamil"
>>
>>How big the lie is ?
>>
>>Who enjoys more than 90% of the resources in Sri Lanka ?
>>
>>What these liars are looking for ?
>>
>
>My friend, define discrimination. Discrimination is not just
>enjoying the resources. Its more than that. Preventing tamils
>from entering colleges is discrimination. Preventing tamils from
>entering or advancing in their position is discrimination. Your
>statement appears as though tamils in SL are just fighting the
>SL Govt. for fun !!!
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>V R Kumar
>


Dear friend, 18 out of 22 districts in Sri Lanka did not produce a
single engineer, doctor, or scientist ... until 1979.

Do you know who enjoys the resources ?



Dear friend, 18 out of 22 districts in Sri Lanka did not produce a
single engineer, doctor, or scientist ... until 1979.

Do you know who enjoys the resources ?
Xref: sparky soc.culture.tamil:1137 soc.culture.indian:28581
From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Subject: Re: I HATE TAMILS (2)
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:59:04 GMT

In <1992Aug18.205307.3598@news.uiowa.edu> rachada@icaen.uiowa.edu (Ramakrishna Chada) writes:

>In article <1992Aug18.145147.9547@uoft02.utoledo.edu> vprasad@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:

>As for the acceptance of Telugu in Madras, it could have something to do
>with "about" 15-20 lakh people of Madras having telugu origins.(I read this in
>an article in Hindu more than 2 yrs back). I am not sure whether telugu is
>accepted/understood in any other part of interior Tamilnadu.

>Ramakrishna 

Dear ramakrishna:

       Telugu is spoken by many communities in TN. The Naidoos in
Coimbatore district, Reddi's are widespread in the rural TN. Why
go so far: The naickers who ruled madurai for sometime patronised
telugu. Thyagaraja swami comes from Tamizh heartland, Tiruvaiaaru.
He composed his kritis in Telugu. There were predecessors
of Thyagaraja in TN even before Telugu got established as a
literary language. (this was detailed in a net mail by Prof
Selvakumaar)

KK
From: viswanath@draco.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: hate tamils-reasons/Jews in Kerala
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:16:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: draco.1992Aug14.141652.1
Organization: Rutgers University RUCS-Newark

In article <kat.713802880@sybok>, kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi) writes:
> 
> 
>    2. They gave refuge to Jews from Israel in AD 68. This is
> engraved in copper in old Tamil vadezhuthu "round letters"
> deeds possessed by Jews and Syrian Christians of Malabar.

As far as the copper plate given to the Jews in Kerala, this was
around the 10-11th century, although there apparently were Jews in 
Kerala from before then (the first documentary evidence, on the other
hand, does seem to be this copper plate).

P.V. Viswanath
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: tmohan@iastate.edu (Thyagarajan Mohan)
Subject: Re: Arupadai Veedugal!
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:55:28 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.130406.1@vax1.umkc.edu> mguruswami@vax1.umkc.edu (Murugavel Guruswami) writes:
>In article <1992Aug10.224737.23039@ms.uky.edu>, aras@ms.uky.edu (P. I. Arasu) writes:
>> I can recollect Tiruchendur, Palani, Swami Malai,
>> Thirutani as four of the six abodes of Murugan.
>> Can someone fillup the rest?
>> 
>> -arasu
>-- 
>I think it is - Thirupparamkundram and Maruthamalai. Some one correct me if I
>am wrong.
>
>Anbudan
>--Murugavel
>

   It's Pazhamudhirchhoelai(Azhakar Kovil),not Marudhamalai;the other is 
thiupparankandram.
MOHAN
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: ravi@socrates.umd.edu (Ravi Sinnarajah)
Subject: A Poem:"I'm a domestic assistant" [kavithai: naan oru vElaikkaari]
Summary: Tamil Diaspora Literature, pulam peyarnthOr illaiyam
Keywords: poem, tamil, kavithai, thamizh
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 00:37:57 GMT


vaNakkam!

	  This poem is from the "peNkaL santhippuk kuzhu [Womyn
Meeting Group]" in Germany. This poem portrays the feelings felt by a
person after immersing in the 'trails and tribulations' experienced 
by a Latin American employed as a 'domestic assistant'.


uNarka (uNarappadum enRa nal_eNNaththudan),
/iravi.

piR_kuRippu: This poem adheres to the transliteration methodoloy as
	     adopted in "aathami" [as usual...].

------------------------kavithaiyin thodakkam------------------------

vElaikkaari


ejamaaniyin
kattaLaiyil
en udal...
ejamaanin
kattililum.

avan
pattumEniyai(p)
paththirappaduththalil.

nimidankaL
niRuththalinRi
niththamum
thuvaiyal.

naanO
maraththuppOna
karankaLOdu.

naan -
vipachchaari
salavai iyanthiram
maattu vaNdil
thudaippankattai
poththaanai
azhuththida
aadivarum pommai...

en
ithayath thudippu
illaamaR pOkumvarai
iRukap pizhinthu
sakkaiyaay veesuvar.

naaLaiya
naatkaLil
meeNdum
uyirkkaiyil
naan manusiyaay mattumE!!

--kaviNYar. naa. nirupaa
  (oru ilaththeen amerikkak kavithai thantha paathippu)


\(ROMAN) Translation

Domestic Assistant

my body under [my] masters's 
   SO(significant other)'s command...
[same] under my master [as well]

[massaging] preserving his body

without any break even for minutes I wash every day.

Me, with my frozen [stiffened like the wood] hands.

Me- a prostitute, a washing machine, a bull driven cart, 
a broomstick and a dancing muppet 
coming to press the button [of the shirt]...

they will exploit [me] until I'm out of my heart beat and
they will throw me [out] as a mass[the leftover after 
extracting the 'juice'- without any soul].

In the coming days [in the future], if I come to life
again, I will---only if I am a *real* womyn!!

- Poet. N. Nirupa

('After Effects' of a Latin American poem)

--------------------------------mudipu-------------------------------
From: dohle@Champlain.CAM.ORG (Gordon Dohle)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: The Poet, C. Subramania Bharati
Keywords: poet Bharati
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:05:32 GMT
Organization: Champlain Regional College, St-Lambert QC  CANADA



Dr. S. Vijaya Bharati, B.A., M.A., (Madras) Ph.D (Annamalai),
Grand daughter of Tamil poet C. Subramania Bharati
is now resident in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada and 
available to appear before Tamil groups in major North American
cities.

Vijaya Bharati can talk to lay as well as academic audiences, 
and sing Bharati's poetry set to music by the poet himself.

There is currently NO e-mail address.
For details, please write

Apartment 326
1025 Grenon Avenue
Ottawa, Ont.
Canada
K2B 8S5
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: shivakl@ctrvx2.vanderbilt.edu (LAKSHMANAN SHIVAKUMAR)
Subject: EVR - Part II (Atheism)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Vanderbilt University
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 14:30:00 GMT

In one of his articles on EVR Mr.Vishnu mentions EVR
advocating Atheism because Lord Krishna preached casteism
in the  Bhagavad Gita.

If the above is true, then EVR ideally fits the description
of a short sighted person, who due to his inability to find
the basic cause of the problem (casteism) uses Religion as
a scapegoat.  KRISHNA NEVER PREACHED CASTEISM AS IT IS BEING
FOLLOWED TODAY.  The vedas divided people on the basis of the
work that was done by them and preached a slightly different
life style for each of those divisions.  We sure should
expect the life of a warrior to be different from that of a
scholar or a business man and this is what the vedas did.
NEITHER KRISHNA NOR THE VEDAS PREACHED UNTOUCHABILITY.  These
are evils underlying the present society and religion cannot
be blamed for these.

To conclude, EVR appears to advise the cutting of of the head to
cure headache.  (I am sure he must have made a great doctor!!).

Regards,
Shivakumar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Subject: Re: Some requests
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 23:36:18 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.223941.14004@menudo.uh.edu> aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu (Venkatachalam Aruna) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.182029.8788@cs.cornell.edu> srin@cs.cornell.edu (Aravind  
>Srinivasan) writes:
>> Dear ValaignargalE,
>> 
>> Anbudan,
>> Aravind.
> 
>   I wholeheartedly second Aravind's opinion. Please remember
>the kuRalkal
>  "innaa seithaarai oruththal avarNaana
>   nannayam seidhu vidal"
>
>  "iniya ulavahaa
>   kaniiruppak kaai kavarnthatRu"
>
>I couldn't recollect the second one exactly. The gist is
>"Why do you want to use bad words when good words are available?"
>
>Cheers,
>Venkat
>
>PS: I tried "aathami" scheme for first time. Are there any mistakes?

   The first kuRaL is O.K. in aadhami.
   But the second kuRaL is not quite right ( in aadhami ) and
 incomplete also. The complete kuRaL is
  "  iniya uLavaaga innaadha kooRal
     kaniyiruppak kaay kavarn thaRRu. "
>-
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From: prem@cs.montana.edu (M.P.Premkumar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: Dark Future for Professional Services in TN?
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:13:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: coe.1992Aug18.191356.9183
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717

In article <1992Aug17.124848.17851@engage.pko.dec.com> thiyagarajan@mims.enet.dec.com (RT) writes:
>
>In article <l8tl3tINN14m@bathtub.cs.utexas.edu>, raman@cs.utexas.edu (Raman Rajagopalan) writes...
>> 
>
>>I am quite concerned about the nature of the present day reservation
>>system for admission to colleges in Tamil Nadu, and in particular, am
>>concerned about the quality of the graduates.  I fear that if the present
>>  
>>- raman rajagopalan
>
>I agree with you totally on this stupid reservation system. I am also a victim
>of this so called if-you-are-forward-caste-screw-you education system. I did
>not get admission in any prof college in TN despite the very high marks I had.

Give details.

>
>I think we should collect a statistics in the net about how many suffered
>because of this stupid-descriminating policy.
>
>What do you think about caste-based promotions in govt offices and
>institutions?

I oppose them.

>
>Do you know about the notorious Salem engg college. I heard from one of my
>friends that Salem college is somewhat 'reserved' for students from
>'reservation' quota and obviously they do not care about studying anything
>there.

Substantiate and prove your allegation.

>
>Imagine this. You are from so-called-lowere caste and you get 35% in +2 and get
>admission to engg (while students with 90%+ are getting screwed). 

It is totally false.

>After
>finishing engg you get a job in govt again based on reservation. You get
>promoted once in 2 years again because your caste. You totally screw up the
>system from top-to-bottom.
>
>I know we forward caste people (other than our strength in education) lack of
>muscle power or any strong political base. I won't be surprised if total
>reservation exceeds 90% in future
>
>I will write about my thoughts later
>
>RT
>> 


For my arguments for reservations please read my reply to Mr. Raman Rajagopalan.


Sincerely yours,
M.P.Premkumar
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