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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:17:25 MDT
From:         Janis Ernest Svilpis <jsvilpis@ACS.UCALGARY.CA>
Subject:      Tamerlane in the Restoration

Dear Colleagues,

I am working on background to Rowe's _Tamerlane_ and have run
into a number of puzzles.  At present, I am wondering about two
apparently related texts:

_The Life of Tamerlane the Great: with his wars against the great
duke of Moso [i.e., Moscow], the king of China, Bajazet the great
Turk, the sultan of Egypt, the king of Persia, and some
others...._  London, 1653.

_The History of Tamerlan the Great: taken out of Alhacent ... and
some other Arabian manuscripts by the Lord de Sainctyon; now
Englished by M. D'Assigny._  London, 1679.

The first of these, which the _National Union Catalog Pre-1956
Imprints_ attributes to Samuel Clarke (1599-1683), is evidently
an abridgement of the second.  _NUC_ attributes the second to a
"Sainctyon, sieur de, fl. 1690"; very strangely, however, it
lists, under this late-17th-century _floruit_, editions of the
text in French as early as 1577 and in English translation as
early as 1597.  "Alhacent" or, in _NUC_'s version, "Alhacen" is
simply listed as a pseudonym.  I have looked for Sainctyon in
Beaumarchais, Couty and Rey's _Dictionnaire_, in Grente's
_Dictionnaire_, and in de Castres's _Trois sie`cles_ with no
luck.  Can someone give me information about this supernatu-
rally long-lived laddie?  In fact, any and all suggestions for
further information sources on him, Clarke (1599-1683), or
"Alhacent" are very welcome.  My work can proceed without
clearing up these details, but I am deeply intrigued.

Thank you,

Janis
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From:         Marion Diamond <med@LINGUA.CLTR.UQ.OZ.AU>
Subject:      Re: two unrelated questions
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Bob Dawson:
The French motoring law requires cars to stop at zebra crossings - but only
when they are also showing a red light (they are always associated with
traffic lights).  This is a hazard to those of us from countries with
crossings that operate all the time, but it is not random.
Marion Diamond
med@lingua.cltr.uq.oz.au
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:28:39 MDT
From:         Janis Ernest Svilpis <jsvilpis@ACS.UCALGARY.CA>
Subject:      _SECC_ deadline

I have misplaced my information sheet about this year's
submission deadline for _Studies in Eighteenth-Century Culture_.
A vacation, a softball league, and some less worthy pursuits
(i.e., academic research and writing) have disordered my desk
even beyond its usual chaos, so I have a paper almost ready and
no notion about when or to whom to submit it.  Would someone out
there in cyberspace be good enough to please let me know when
submissions are due and where to send them?

Heartfelt thanks in advance,

Janis Svilpis
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Date:         Sun, 26 Jul 1992 14:39:08 EDT
From:         John O'Neill <joneill@ITSMAIL1.HAMILTON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: two unrelated questions
              at Jul 26, 92 1:15 am

To C18-L Colleagues

I can give a partial answer to Wendy Motooka's question concerning the
deadline for submitting paper proposals for the ASECS conference in
Providence in 1993.  It's a very important question, to which a lot of
us need answers.

Edna Steeves, chair of the program committee for the conference, is out
of town on vacation, but just before she left I called her and left a
message asking when chairs of seminars should have program copy to her.
In reply I received a letter which read, in part,

"My own deadline for program copy is September 1. . . . I have been
inundated with letters and phone calls demanding a deadline date, so as
inquiries arrived, I have said Sept. 1 as a deadline.  I hope all the
seminar chairs realize how far ahead these matters move."

In order to get program copy to Edna by September 1, seminar chairs
should certainly have papers and proposals by August 15, and sooner if
possible, so that they will have time to make up their minds about which
proposals to include.

I urge all subscribers to C18-L to tell all their non-subscriber friends
in the organization to submit proposals very soon if they intend to
submit them at all.  The problem is that the materials which went out
from the ASECS office in Cincinnatti included no deadline date
whatsover, so that all of us were left in the dark.

Thank you.

--John H. O'Neill, Hamilton College
joneill@hamilton.edu
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Date:         Sat, 25 Jul 1992 15:56:04 EDT
From:         PH15000 <PH15@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      Porta's Text

For Kevin Berland, as requested

_Concerning the Heavenly [Appointed] Physiognomy_
by Giovanni Battista della Porta, from Naples,
Book Six,
in which, the vanity of Astrology as Judge [of characters] having been
rebutted, there is given a manner of knowing exactly, through natural
causes, all that the demeanour, the presence, & the features of men
can physically signify and promise.
At Padua, by Pietro Paolo Tozzi, 1622.

Socrates first loved Alcibiades and Phaedrus, and, after Phaedrus,
Carmides, [men] who were adorned with beautiful hair, radiant flesh,
and of graceful features.  He did not love Theaetetus, because he was
of flat nose, & ugly.  Nor did he value Cherephontes, because he was
pale and cloudy, as Maximus relates.

I draw [the conclusion: So did he act] because he did not expect
anything good from these [last], on account of their subservient
and vile nature.  But he judged the other to be constituted of the
best "humours," because of pure blood and resplendent flesh; hence
that they were of the best habits.  With these he kept company, to
take advantage of their excellent minds.  As for Theaetetus and
Cherephontes, because of their ugly pallor--as if made up of the
dregs of "humours" and of unbalanced tempers--he judged that they
could not be but maliciious, conniving, doers of evil, and murderers,
and that nothing could come of familiarity with them except exiles,
poverty, and the worst of ends.  And so did he act with good reason.
For nothing happened otherwise than as he thought: thus Alcibiades
attained to the highest grade in the Republic, and became Lord of the
Fatherland.  Had Cicero known Ceaser's nature, he would have sided with
him rather than with his enemies, and he would not have lost his head,
and his hands as well. (213)

George di Giovanni/Philosophy/McGill
(Will I see you at Penn State for the Hegel conference this October?)
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 09:29:51 EDT
From:         BCJ@PSUVM.BITNET
Subject:      Request for current items on Congreve.

  - - The original note follows - -

From: FLANNAGA at OUACCVMB
To:   c18 readership
Subject: Request for current items on Congreve.

A request or a plea from my colleague Laurence Bartlett, who did a
useful bibliography on Congreve in 1969 but has little computing
experience: what is the best way to pull lists of articles and books
from eighteenth-century bibliographies?  Would MLA on-line be the best
source?  Have you used their recent email service?  I have tried through
email but did not get through to Dan Uchitelle at his old address.  Do
any of you maintain a large database of c18 articles that would have a
subsection on Congreve, and would it be possible to extract a listing
since 1969?  The more entries Laurence has to start
with, the better off he will be.  I have ProCite and could receive data
that could be translated by its email component, BiblioLink, though I am
rusty at using it.  Thanks for any help or suggestions, on behalf of
Laurence.  Roy Flannagan, English, Ohio University, Athens, OH 45701
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:44:29 EDT
From:         Brett charbeneau <71043.231@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Unknown Distribution Lists

       In Deborah Leslie's anouncement about the Library Company of
Phildelphia (July 28, 12:47 EDT) she mentions what I believe to be
several Distribution Lists.  These include Exlibris, C18-L and two
others I am not familar with: History and Sharp-L.

       Can anyone enlighten me as to what these lists are about and
how to subscribe?

       Thanks!

       Brett Charbeneau  (71043.231@compuserve.com)
       Apprentice Printer
       Colonial Williamsburg Foundation
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 23:01:52 EDT
From:         Robin Brooks Kornman <RKORNMAN@PUCC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Getting on Internet in Paris
              20 Jul 1992 10:42:55 EDT from <joneill@ITSMAIL1.HAMILTON.EDU>

INTERNET IN PARIS:

I was connected to internet in Paris. If anybody would like to know how I
did it, please contact me at rkornman@pucc.princeton.edu.

Robin Kornman
or you can call me at 410-268-7021.
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:31:00 CST
From:         FRAE141@UTXVMS.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Tamerlane in the Restoration

I would try the standard bio-dicts in French (Mchaud, Hoefer, Jal's supple-
ment); there are others. Also Que$rard, La France litte$raire; Cioranescu
for the 16th and 17th centuries; Goldsmith, beyond the BLC (Brit-lib cat.), BNC,
If you have imprints for the 16th C. (Paris), the new Renouard (in progress;
chunks have appeared). Also BLC under Tamerlane. There's more, but the
above might be sufficient.

Good luck!

--Bob Dawson
French-italian
UTx-Austin
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Date:         Sun, 26 Jul 1992 01:15:34 EDT
From:         Wendy Motooka <USER6N6X@UMICHUM.BITNET>
Subject:      two unrelated questions

  I've wondering lately about two unrelated questions.
  1.  Does anyone know what the deadline is for
submitting paper proposals for the ASECS meeting
in Providence next year?
  2.  Does anyone know why the Americans drive on
the right side of the road while the British drive
on the left?  Surely there must have been some sort
of protocol regarding carts (or whatever) in crowded
streets back in the 18th-c. and earlier.  Wouldn't
one expect the same protocol to survive in both
the U.S. and Britain?

  Wendy Motooka
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Date:         Sat, 25 Jul 1992 16:05:22 CDT
From:         susan v nicassio <SBSF089@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      finding out how to use c18-l

Dear sir -- A colleague here at UAB (Howard Irving in Music) put me on to the e
xistence of this service, and I'm keen to get involved with it.  I'm a new prof
 in the history department, working on musical theater in Italy, and specifical
ly in Rome.  Unfortunately, Howard didn't have any printed info on how to use t
he network, and couldn't recall the name of the person to ask -- I can only hop
e that you're it.  If so, could you please  :get in touch and let me  know how
to do what.  I'm new at this business, but it looks promising.  Thanks.
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:42:20 CDT
From:         karen jean lunsford <luns@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU>
Subject:      poetry on cassette

I am an avid fan of Audio-books, Books on tape, poetry on tape, etc.  Does
anyone know of any recordings of 18th C poems? I would be interested in works
in English (Great Britain or America), Spanish or French.  Would love to find
The Rape of the Lock.
Thanks for any suggestions,

Karen Lunsford
luns@midway.uchicago.edu
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Date:         Sat, 25 Jul 1992 06:53:42 EDT
From:         Melancon Benoit <melancon@ERE.UMONTREAL.CA>
Subject:      Re: poetry on cassette
              lunsford" at Jul 24, 92 3:42 pm

Des extraits des _Lettres a Sophie Volland_ et de _Sur les
femmes_ de Diderot ont ete enregistres par Michel Piccoli
(Paris, Edition des femmes, coll. "ecrire, entendre", une
cassette).

Il est vrai qu'il ne s'agit pas de poesie...

Benoit Melancon                       melancon@ere.umontreal.ca
Departement des litteratures          (514) 485-2127
Universite Laval
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 00:33:07 EDT
From:         John O'Neill <joneill@ITSMAIL1.HAMILTON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: _SECC_ deadline
              Svilpis" at Jul 27, 92 5:28 pm

To Janis Ernest Svilpis and others planning to submit papers to SECC:

The deadline is August 1, 1992--that is, four days away!  So you'd
better get the paper off your desk and into the mail.

Follow the Chicago Manual os Style, 13th ed.  Everything should be
double-spaced.  Submit FOUR copies of the papers.  Accompany the
typescript with a self-addressed envelope and enough loose stamps to
cover the cost of returning one copy of the paper.

Submit your paper to:

Carla H. Hay, Editor
SECC
Department of History
Marquette University
Milwaukee, Wi 53233

It's amusing how much of the information we get is unavailable to use
when we need it--no?

--John O'Neill
joneill@hamilton.edu
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:39:47 EDT
From:         Irwin Primer <primer@ANDROMEDA.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Request for current items on Congreve.

Try Current Contents, a database that most librarians with computer experi-
ence will know how or where to find; I think it's a pay-as-you-go service.
I used it a few times, with satisfactory results.  The MLA bibliography since
1981 is commonly available free on Wilson-Disc (cd's).  If you know anyone at
Harvard, he/she may possibly be helpful by searching for you (Bartlett, I
mean) on their in-house periodicals database; one needs a Harvard I.D. to
access it.
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 11:04:58 EDT
From:         EG10000 <EG10@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      Encyclopedia--Writers Wanted

Dear Prof. Fruchtman,
     If FRANCES BURNEY and/or HORACE WALPOLE are to be included
in the HANOVERIAN ENCYCLOPEDIA, I would be interested in writing
the (presumably brief) articles on them.  I have edited vols.
37-39 of the Yale Edition of Horace Walpole's Correspondence,
and am currently editing the Early Journals and Letters of Fanny
Burney (Clarendon Press and the McGill-Queen's Univ. Press).
                                 Lars Troide
                                 Dept. of English
                                 McGill University
                                 853 Sherbrooke St. W.
                                 Montreal, Quebec, CANADA
                                 H3A 2T6
                                 EMAIL:  EG10@MUSICA.McGILL.CA
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Subject: Re: two unrelated questions
Date: 26 Jul 92 15:28:26 GMT
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Re driving on the right or the left. In England people drive on the left in ord
er tomake it easier for the coachman to draw his sword when attacked y highwaym
en.  This clearly proves America was settled by a generation of left handed coa
hmen.
Some countries and provinces have switched from left to right. When the change
was made in Newfoundland it was done by easy stages; the first year only cars w
ith odd-numbered licence plates had to drive on the right.
John Sandys-Wunsch, Mill Bay, B.C., Canada.
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 09:45:23 PDT
From:         Deborah Leslie <BM.LPD@RLG.BITNET>
Subject:      Lib. Co. of Phila. construction project

           LIBRARY COMPANY OF PHILADELPHIA BEGINS
         CONSTRUCTION/RENOVATION PROJECT IN FALL 1992

Philadelphia--In September 1992, the Library Company of Philadelphia
will begin a construction/renovation project that is scheduled to
last through May 1993.  On occasion the Library Company will need
to be closed.  For your convenience and safety, we ask that
researchers call for an appointment before coming to the Library--
(215) 546-3181.  No exhibitions will be on view during this time.
The project will provide the Library Company with many critically
needed things--a new facade, a central entrance, a new exhibition
gallery, expanded room for the Prints and Photographs Department,
and a main Reading Room that is quiet and secure.  We are confident
that the improvements in our ability to serve the public will
compensate for any temporary inconvenience during the construction.

CONTACT: Eileen Shapiro daytime (215) 546-5588

Please distribute this message to all interested parties.  Initial
distribution to Exlibris, C18-L, History, Sharp-L.      -DJL
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From:         BCJ@PSUVM.BITNET
Subject:      Query: Kant e-texts? [xposted from Humanist]

Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 23:54 -0500
From: Keith Handley <KEHANDLEY@AMHERST>
Subject: Kant on CD-ROM

Hi.  A professor whom I support is very interested in works of Kant on
CD-ROM, which are available from the Institut fu"r angewandte
Kommunikations und Sprachforschung in Bonn.

I would like to hear from anyone who has used or is using this and has
anything to say about it.  I have a copy of a generally good review of
this product from what appears to be a Kant newsletter, but I would
also like to hear some concurring reviews, if there are any out there.

Thank you.

Keith Handley, Amherst College Academic Computer Center
kehandley@amherst    kehandley@amherst.edu
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Date:         Sun, 26 Jul 1992 23:08:10 EDT
From:         James Schmidt <UNI9HTN@BUACCA.BITNET>
Subject:      "What is Enlightenment?" Translation Questions

I am in the process of editing a collection of translations of eighteenth centur
German essays on the question "What is Enlightenment?"  A few references and
allusions have me perplexed so I thought I would post them here in case anyone
could provide help in pinning them down.  The I've ranked them in an
ascending order of obscurity, the first couple being fairly straightforward, the
last few being quite peculiar.
1.	F. H. Jacobi closes his essay "Etwas Lessing gesagt hat" with the following
quote attributed to Voltaire:  "Le partage du brave homme est d'expliquer
librement ses pensees.  Celui qui n'ose regarder fixement les duex poles de la v
humaine, la religion et le gouvernement, n'est qu'un lache."  Where is this
quote from?
2.	In an essay on freedom of the press Carl Friedrich Bahrdt quotes
Frederick the Great as having said "d'etre Roi c'est un hazard".  Where or when
did Frederick say this?
3.	In his essay on Enlightenment Andreas Riem mentions that it was
through an appeal to faith that "Rosenberg proved the worth as Messiah".
Henri Brunschwig, in his book on Enlightenment and Romanticism in Prussia
dicusses Johann Paul Philip Rosenfeld's claim to be the true Messiah.  Was there
another would be Messiah named Rosenberg, was Brunschwig wrong on the
name?, or was this a slip of the pen on Riem's part?  I'd guess the latter but
would appreciate anyone who is more familiar than I am with 18th century
Messiahs.
4.	Karl Reinhold closes an essay which attempts to define Enlightenment
(and, by the way, which beat both Mendelssohn and Kant into print) by listing a
set of aburdities alleged to have been uttered by the Patricius Fast, a Viennese
cleric.  One of the claims alleged to have been made by Fast goes as follows:  "
wooden, wretchedly adorned Madonna of Poetsch has cried abundant tears, and
if it had not cried, it was because Emperor Leopold had thrown a fake coin".
Does anyone know anything about the Madonna of Poetsch or of Emperor
Leopold's actions relating to it (my guess is that he pitched a coin at an idol
which did not perform for him as it was alleged to perform for other's, hence
Fast's conclusion that the coin must have been a fake).
5.	In an essay on the notion of publicity Friedrich Karl von Moser likens
proposals to limit the circulation of writings to the proposal of a General von
Ryan [the printed text reads "Ryau", but I am convinced that the "u" is a fairly
common printer's error -- an inverted "n"] who is said to have suggested "that
one should pave the meadows, so that moles could not harm them".  General von
Ryan is in none of the standard biographical encyclopedias.  Could he perhaps
be a character in German fiction from the period?
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Thanks for the help - -
James Schmidt, Boston University (uni9htn@buacca)
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 10:24:00 CDT
From:         "Robert F. Bode" <RFB8135@TNTECH.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: two unrelated questions

I guess in Newfoundland the odd numbered plates only drove on the right on
even numbered highways the first year, thereby stretching the transition to
4 years instead of 2 and creating the greatest hardship for the greatest
number, that often being the primary function of all governments.

Bob Bode
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 20:14:41 EDT
From:         BCJ@PSUVM.BITNET
Subject:      Call for Papers: Hume & his Scottish Setting

     Papers on all aspects of Hume's writings will be considered for
the Hume Society/18th-Century Scottish Studies Society Conference, to be
held at the University of Ottawa 6-10 July 1993.  The conference's theme
is "Hume in his Scottish Setting."  Submissions on the following additional
themes are particularly encouraged.

     * Hume and His Critics
     * Hume and the Practice of History in the Enlightenment
     * Hume's Critique of Religion.

Papers should be no more than 30 minutes reading length with self-reference
deleted for blind refereeing and should be accompanied by 100-word abstracts.

     Send 3 copies of papers and abstracts by October 15, 1992, to Dorothy
Coleman, Secretary of the Hume Society, Department of Philosophy, College
of William and Mary, P.O. Box 8795, Williamsburg, VA 23187-8795.
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