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From: ailsa%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Ailsa N.T. Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 23:02:48 EST
Organization: Ailanthus Project

berthiau@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Andre Berthiaume) writes:

> Somehow, I don't think my cats have any concept of what time of day
> they are in other than day and night.  In other words, they go on the
> "fritz" just about whenever they feel they have enough energy stored
> for it! =)  Just yesterday, the two furry terrors started to run
> around chasing each other from livingroom to bedroom! and this was all
> during the mid-morning hours!  Go figure.  But most of the time when
> they are active it's in the late evening hours.  Sometimes it's in the
> early morning hours.  They just go nuts whenever they darn well feel
> like it! %-)  But Kinski seems to be the regular fritzer in the household.
> We can tell when she's about to "go on the fritz" when her eyes start
> to dart all over the place and her tail goes POOF! =)
>

this is beacuse all cats are little solar deities.  they lie in the sun soaking
up energy all day, or as long as is required, and then release it in a mad
rumpus about the house.  the egyptians knew what they were doing when they made
bast, the goddess of the warm and ripening sun, cat-headed!

                                              -ailsa

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From: draper@gnd1.wtp.contel.com (PAM DRAPER)
Subject: Re: *****PLEASE ADVISE- NEW CAT PROBLEMS*****
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Organization: GTE Government Systems, Federal Systems Division, Chantilly, VA
Distribution:  usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:12:49 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.225632.20066@auto-trol.com>, katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty) writes...
>keller@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>: I need advise from anyone who has brought a new cat into a home that has
>: already been claimed by another cat.
>: 
>: I found a stray a while ago, and if no-one answers my flyers, I would like
>: to keep "Bob". The only problem is Madeline, our existing cat.
>: Maddy is a female, not fixed and has all her claws. Bob is a big male, no 
>: claws, neutered. Madeline has no idea what to make if this intruder.


Get her fixed.



Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: schumach@convex.com (Richard A. Schumacher)
Subject: Re: kitties have to be siblings?
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 19:00:35 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.



>> estion is this...we want two kitties to keep each other company and I've read
>> that they should be the same gender, but do they also have to be siblings?
>> The animal shelters in our area don't have any siblings, and circumstances
>> dictate that we get them soon so I don't know as I want to wait until a pair of
>> kitties become available.  Help?  Anyone have any experience with this?

In my experience, cats of any age, gender and relatedness adopted
simultaneously are so happy to be rescued from the pound that they
all get along along fine together. They will all adapt to each other
in the course of adapting to their new home. Adopt without fear.





From: jeffw@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (jeff waldeck)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:48:41 GMT
Subject: Re: BROKEN TAIL!!??
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats

/ hpdmd48:rec.pets.cats / <U30644@uicvm.uic.edu> / 11:34 am  Aug 19, 1992 /
Help!  My kitty seems to have a broken/dislocated tail!!

>We took in a stray last week and she has been beating up on our other 2
>cats... well, a few days ago I was petting Zenny and I noticed a
>swelling around the middle of her tail.  She was very sensitive around
>this area, and she would yowl when I tried to examine it.

My cat (Tesla) had what sounds like a very similar problem once. A swollen
area, VERY sensitive. Turned out upon a visit to the vet to be an infected
cut that (undoubtably) resulted from a fight. Something that should have
pointed me this direction right away was a sort of sweetish foul odor from
the region (not that Tesla let me get my nose that close mind you...).

Good luck!!

Regards,

Jeffery
(with permission of Tesla)
 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: adwright@iastate.edu ()
Subject: Re: Possums and cats
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:59:03 GMT

We also get frequent visits by possums. We found that they can squeeze through the chain link and proceed to the food bowls indoors. Not long ago we were 
woke up by excessively loud chomping followed by loud slurping. We turned on 
the lights to find a young possum with a very pretty fur coat for a possum
(eating IAMS will do that) who was trying to nonchalantly sneak away. I picked 
the little feller up by the tail and tossed him outside, confident that he
would not be returning at least for that night. No such luck, 45 minutes later
he was back.

A good sign that you have been visited by a possum is that there will be cat 
food particles in the water dish :(  They like to drink water before they have finished swallowing the food. Taking them away only temporarily relieves the
problem; when a niche is created, it takes about a week before another one
takes its place.
From: davek@informix.com (David Kosenko)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cat Names...
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:49:07 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

Diane Gibson writes:
>On the subject of cat names, wasn't it T.S. Elliott who wrote about
>cat's having many names.  

The naming of cats is a difficult matter
It isn't just one of your holiday games
You may, in fact, think that I'm mad as a hatter
When I tell you a cat must have three different names!
...
	The Naming of Cats (Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats)
	by T.S. Eliot

Dave
-- 
Disclaimer: These opinions are not those of Informix Software, Inc.
**************************************************************************
The heart and the mind on a parallel course, never the two shall meet.
						-E. Saliers
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jay@cmn19.Stanford.EDU (Jay Kadis)
Subject: Re: Why Do Cats Sit on Paper?
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 23:07:15 GMT

I've always assumed that since a piece of paper has finite thickness, the  
cats' preference for sitting on paper is related to the prime directive:   
get as high as you can...

Jay Kadis
jay@ccrma.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ericj@hwcae.Honeywell.COM (Eric Jacobsen)
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Organization: Honeywell, Air Transport Division; Phoenix, AZ
	<26832@life.ai.mit.edu> <19048@vpk2.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:41:07 GMT

Another I remembered this morning:

Our cat does a "Meeeeeeooooooow" kind of thing where the pitch drops
quite a bit in the middle (usually translates as "why the &^%&^ haven't
you fed me yet!")

Anyway, I call this "doppler cat"...

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From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Looking for pet odor remover/neutralizer. 
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:00:49 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Sep3.173146.9148@newsgate.sps.mot.com>, r1156c@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Michael R. Dow) writes:
> 	Ok... So, after Vincent is done marking a spot repeatedly, how do I 	
> remove the odor?  I can use something like 'Simple Solution', but I want
> vincent's odor *GONE*....
> 
> 	Chemicals?  Solvents?  Fire?
Fastest solution I've found is Outright!, but it's expensive.  It's an
enzyme solution that must be soaked into the spot as deep as the pee
penetrated, then the area has to be kept damp for 24 hours.  Warm damp
works better than cold damp, so I moisten bath towels with plain water,
lay them over the enzyme-soaked area, and cover with plastic.  If the
odor isn't gone in 24 hrs, dry the area then redo the treatment. (leave
it wet too long and mold sets in)

Cheaper solutions that work on carpets include Rug Doctor Pet Odor Remover,
which is like Outright!, but not quite as efficient.  For non-porous
surfaces, I like Odor Mute, which was originally developed for
de-skunking dogs.  Works well, very cheap (ca $4 for enough to make
5 gallons of solution), but it will leave a white residue in carpets
and upholstery.    Odor Mute works OK on concrete, too.

Kay Klier
From: pstevens@Metaphor.COM (Paul Stevens)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Cat doesn't trust children
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:32:56 GMT
Reply-To: pstevens@Metaphor.COM (Paul Stevens)
Organization: m4

My cat Tara, a middle-aged (7.5 years) Siamese-Balinese mix, has always
had this mistrust of children that borders on mortal terror sometimes.
I am pretty sure that she never had any bad experiences with kids.
There's just something about them that scares her.

What makes it especially weird is that with my wife and I she is 
exceptionally trusting.  For example, she will let me comb and groom
her even when it is not comfortable.  I believe she allows this because
she knows she can "tell" me when it hurts.  Also, she will let us carry
her in all sorts of positions without getting tense.

With other adults she seems to make a judgement about whether they
are "cat people" or not (usually quite correctly) and either avoid
them or seek out a new sucker to fawn over her.  But with kids, she
never seems to quite trust them.  I don't know if it their vocal 
qualities, their mannerisms, their size or what.  This last weekend
I had a guest who had two kids.  Even though these kids had cats,
liked cats and never tried to be rough with Tara, she clearly did
not enjoy them being around.  She would come in the house from 
outside, notice that they were still around and just turn around
and go back out!  Eventually, she allowed a few short petting 
strokes, but that was all. Who knows what goes on in her little 
cat brain!

In a related topic, I think it is because you must win a cat's trust
through your interactions with them that makes one's relationships
with their own cats so special.

+------------------------------------------------------------------------+

   Paul Stevens                        {apple|decwrl}!metaphor!pstevens
   Metaphor Computer Systems           pstevens@metaphor.com
   Mountain View, CA
From: sbiles@nmsu.edu (Susannah E Biles)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: new kitty!!
Date: 1 Sep 92 00:47:40 GMT
Distribution: rec.pets.cats
Organization: NMSU Computer Science


Hi all,
I just wanted to share with you that I have recently resuced a little
one from the local humane society. With the adoption fee we get all
the first shots a kitten needs, plus neutering! 
He is the CUTEST little grey mutt (I say mutt, cause who knows WHAT
kind of kitty he is ) but he is dark grey with ligter tiger stripes. I
assume he will get lighter as he gets older. Right now he is only 3
months old, and so small his head can fit in the top of the Pounce
can! (he likes that!)  ;)
My sister decided to name him Sydney and he seems to enjoy his name.
My other cat, Agustus (some of you may remember...he is the one who
jumped out the back window...) is pleased...well....sort of...well...
at least he has stopped biting the cat on the head! ;)
But I am glad we got another one, because Fuzzy Gus was climing the
walls with boredom. I don't think he will be bored anymore!

Just one question. The new kitten will ONLY eat out of the older cats
bowl, and the older cat LUVS the kitten food, so is not eating his
own! For the time being I have been putting half kitty food, half cat
food in the bowl, mixing it up and hoping that both cats get enuf of
what they need. Any suggestions? We have already tried feeding the
kitten elsewhere (bathroom, bedroom) but he won't eat anywhere but out
in the kitchen, out of that particular bowl. We also tried just
putting down kitten food at certain times for the kitten, but Agustus
seems to _wait_ for these times and attacks the bowl. What I am doing
now seems to keep the older cat from gorging the kitten food, and
keeps the kitten eating. I guess my only concern is that maybe the
older cat food might not be good for kitten?

Other than that, life with Fuzzy and Sidney is lovely :)

Susan
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: judith@super.org (Judith D. Schlesinger)
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Organization: Supercomputing Research Center (Bowie, MD)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:46:58 GMT

If I'm understanding the discussion correctly, "The Meatloaf" is when the
cat has the front paws curled in under them.  "The Bug" is when the cat
just sort of drops down on all 4 legs so the front paws are scrunched up
under them.  I think "Paraplegic" and "The Hen" (I really like this but
I'll never be able to break old habits) are referring to the same thing.

Can someone clarify?

Thanks--

Judith and Charlie and Sarah
From: keller@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: *****What breed is this? was PLEASE ADVISE*****
Date: 30 Aug 92 00:18:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: ohstpy.13552.2a9fdb97



I would like to thank everyone who offered advice to us on our situation
with Madeline and "Bob".  They seem to be getting along much better,
although Bob is still nervous about a lot of attention.
Maddie is much happier thanks to the advice about keeping her in our room
for a while each day to 'give her a break' from bob.

My next question is one that the more experienced cat owners can answer. I want
to know what breed bob is.
He is a heavy male, about 15 pounds, all muscle. His face is narrow like that
of a Siamese. He's an all black short-hair. The most distinguishing feature
about him is his lack of tail.  It's about an inch long, and I can't tell 
if this was a birth feature, or if something happened to his tail and the rest
was amputated. His back legs more muscular than Maddies, who's a female calico,
long hair. I don't think he's a Manx, I though they didn't have any tails at
all, although I've only seen one Manx in my lifetime, and doubt that I would be
lucky enough to have found one. I know, you're all going to say "take him to a
vet". I know this, I'm just wondering if this description is enough by itself
to distinguish him.

He seems to be working out just fine in what I consider to be his permanant
home. (Although he does love drinking out of the faucet while I'm brushing my
teeth. Is this normal, when he has his own full bowl???)

THanks again, 
Lori Keller @ pso's account.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jonathan@netcom.com (Jonathan Ridder)
Subject: Re: Food for FUS cats
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 05:09:05 GMT
Organization: None, but lots of Procrastination

amd@ghost.mit.edu (Ann M. Davis) writes:
>My sister has a cat (female) with FUS.  Currently she is buying this
>really expensive perscription cat food from the Vet.  I was wondering
>what other people feed their cats with FUS. What brand? is it wet
>or dry? Other supplements?

My cat Ziggy required two operations for his FUS, the first when he
was 2 and the second (actually a series of about 10 unblockings over
a 5 day period) when he was 5.  For the last 4 years I have been
feeding him Hills Prescription Diet c/d dry food.  I pay about $40
for a 20lb. bag.  This lasts about 3 months.  I think that this is
very reasonable (compared to the $500 doctor bill for his last case 
of FUS).

Jonathan
-- 
 "I don't mind Tigger being in the Forest," Eeyore went on, "because it's    
 a large Forest, and there's plenty of room to bounce in it.  But I don't
 see why he should come into my little corner of it, and bounce there."
   A.A. Milne                                         jonathan@netcom.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: C11815@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Josette Giacobbi)
Subject: Re: Cat sitting on paper
Organization: Motorola
Date: 4 Sep 1992 10:14:19 CDT

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
From: moss@cs.umass.edu (Eliot Moss)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Why Do Cats Sit on Paper?
Date: 3 Sep 92 02:54:51 GMT
Reply-To: moss@cs.umass.edu
Organization: Dept of Comp and Info Sci, Univ of Mass (Amherst)
In-reply-to: kgs@panix.com's message of 2 Sep 92 01:15:52 GMT

I have thought of two reasons why cats sit on a piece of paper:

1) to get attention, because it interferes with what you're doing; and
2) because it is an excellent insulator, and hence warmer than a bare floor,
etc.

I think 2 does apply (sometimes anyway) because our cats will sit on paper
even if it's not in our way or getting attention. I also have a cat that will
always sit on my clothes, clean or dirty, but that's a different story ....
--

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		Department of Computer Science
		Lederle Graduate Research Center
		University of Massachusetts
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From: pstevens@Metaphor.COM (Paul Stevens)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: How do I keep neighbors cat from killin
Date: 28 Aug 92 01:28:03 GMT
Reply-To: pstevens@Metaphor.COM (Paul Stevens)
Organization: m4

In article <1992Aug26.203743.20948@ast.saic.com>, hyler@jaana.ast.saic.com (Buffy Hyler) writes:
|> Depending on how much you want to invest in feeding the birds you could
|> mount the feeder on a tall post away from trees and fences and put one
|> of those upside down cone arrangements at the top of the post just
|> under the feeder.  That way the cat can't climb the post and the cone,
|> if wide enough, should keep him from leaping for the top.  It would
|> probably have to be at least 6 feet up.  I saw arrangements like this
|> when I was visiting back in the midwest.
|> 
|> 
|> Good luck.

There will still be a problem with this method.  Birds are messy eaters
and will scatter the seed from the feeder onto the ground.  Other birds
will then eat from the ground (some species, like Tohees, only eat on the
ground).  I never could find a way to have a feeder and have my cat be
indoor/outdoor without causing birds to die.  Even a bell or two can
be managed by the cat who is a determined bird-killer.  Since my cat
is a loud-mouthed Siamese, I choose to eliminate my feeder.

Perhaps, if you made the feeder unreachable by the cat AND spill-proof
you would be OK.  Another option is to try to spray the cat with a
water hose every time it crosses into your yard.  But a smart cat will
just wait until your not around.

Sorry, to sound negative, but a determined bird-killing cat is hard
to stop.
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+

   Paul Stevens                        {apple|decwrl}!metaphor!pstevens
   Metaphor Computer Systems           pstevens@metaphor.com
   Mountain View, CA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: adwright@iastate.edu ()
Subject: Re: A silly cat poem ;>
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:52:07 GMT

We quite often make up poems about our cats and put the words to show
tunes. I thought I'd share a verse:

Here come Mr Mousie
With His friend Mr Mole
Now they  see the kitty cat
waitin by the hole
Say Mr Mouse do you think maybe she just wants to play?
No I'm afraid not Mr Mole, to her we're only prey.

(to the tune of Supracalifragalis... from Mary Poppins)
From: gittel@nynexst.com (Kathleen Gittel)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: cat/rain
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:16:38 GMT
Organization: NYNEX Science & Technology, Inc.

Yesterday I woke at 6am per usual. It was very dark.  

I live on a a farm and have invisible fencing for my cats, so on
a warm night, I let my 4 cats have the run of the out-doors.
Eric, my adventurer was still outside, as usual. I began to warm up
their breakfast when the skies opened and extreme rain came down.
I called out the window for Eric.  Nothing.

I panicked and grabbing an umbrella, ran out into the rain
still wearing my flannel grannie nightgown.  I called him at 
all his usual haunts-no Eric.  He was nowhere.  I panicked--I 
imagined him slipping down a muddy embankment and falling into 
the stream  and, OMIGOD__________
drowning!  I ran about the house again, calling Eric--nothing

I fled back into the house and saw Eric. In a leisurely fashion he
ambled over to greet me.  

He seemed puzzled when he saw me --.  I guess he was
He was thinking, "Good grief, Big Cat's drenched. (my cats think
of me as Big Cat). Doesn't she know enough to come in out of the
rain?"

I hugged and kissed him.  He was perfectly dry except for my tears
of relief.

Kathy
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jill@cray.com (Jill McAllister)
Subject: Re: Cat likes cantelope???
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 28 Aug 92 00:49:12 CDT

>>Sherlock loves melon, too. In fact, he loves most fresh fruits, as long as
>
>This is not really uncommon. Our pets (dog and cat) LOVES fruit, veggies,

One of our 10-year-old cats, Hetty, may have the strangest food fetish.
She loves Popsicles (but not root beer ones, only the fruit-flavored ones).
But you have to do it just right.  She sits at your feet expectantly while
you eat your Popsicle.  Then when you're done, you show her the stick,
and she stands up, turns sideways, and arches her back.  You're supposed
to rub the stick on her fur for her to lick off!  If you think you'll
make it easier for her and put the stick up to her nose so she can lick
it, she'll obligingly sniff it, but then turn so that her side is against
the stick.  Anyone else have a cat that does this?

Jill McAllister
(jill@cray.com)