From: cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio)
Subject: Holtsinger: clumsy liar
Reply-To: cj@sgi.com (C J Silverio)
Organization: SGI TechPubs
 
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:24:06 GMT


dsh@odin.ece.ncsu.edu writes:
|margoli@watson.ibm.com writes:
||[.. article from Clarinet ..]
||HOUSTON (UPI) -- A Republican platform subcommittee Monday
||overwhelmingly passed a plank calling for the adoption of a
||constitutional amendment banning all abortions.
||    The subcommittee on individual rights, good homes and safe streets
||voted 17-3 to approve the plank, which is essentially the same as the
||anti-abortion planks contained in the 1988 and 1984 platforms.
||..
||    Although the subcommittee included a few members supportive of the
||Republicans for Choice, the majority endorsed President Bush's stance
||against abortions.
|
|Thank you for providing evidence that Ron Echeverri did concoct a  
|key sentence in his original post.  His original post contained
|the suggestion that the Republican platform subcommittee endorsed
|the policy of President Bush when they passed a plank calling for
|a ban on all abortions.  President Bush does not support a ban
|on all abortions; he supports exceptions for rape, incest, and the
|life of the mother.  

Holtsinger clearly is unfamiliar with the Clarinet news.  Often
three or four versions of a story go out on the wire, each with
slightly different wordings, before the reporter settles on a
final version.  Old versions are cancelled and replaced with the
new version.  For example, the version on my system includes
these lines:

    X-Supersedes: <gop-platformU2aA1255pe@clarinet.com>
    Note: (complete writethru -- subcommittee action on abortion plank)

The version with that message-ID is different from the current
version.  I can't look at it to check, though, because it's been
deleted.

|Note that the sentence fragment "endorsing the policy of President Bush" 
|which appears in Echeverri's version of the article is absent from your 
|version.  

That sentence fragment is indeed missing in the final version.
However, the final version replaces it with an entire sentence
with the same meaning.  What do you have to say, Holtsinger,
about this sentence from the UPI news story:

    Although the subcommittee included a few members supportive
    of the Republicans for Choice, the majority endorsed
    President Bush's stance against abortions.

Larry Margolis included it in his reposting of the Clarinews
story above.  You read it when you read his post.  Aren't you
going to accuse Larry of fabricating this "obvious" lie about
Bush's position?  Or do you prefer hysterical fulminations
against Ron?

||I think you should apologize for accusing Ron of trying to pull a Doug.
|
|I think Mr. Echeverri should apologize for deceiving the net about
|President Bush's stance on abortion.  

He did no such thing.  He merely reposted part of a Clarinet
news article that we'd all seen.  Poor Holtsinger can't accept
reality.  Poor Holtsinger is vigorously denying that the
Republican Party holds the positions it does.  Poor Holtsinger--
reduced to hysterical accusations.  Denial so deep is pathetic
to watch, isn't it?

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cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com    C J Silverio/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720
"He must be an oddity, I think," said she.  "I cannot make him out.  
There is something very pompous in his style.  Can he be a sensible 
man, sir?"  --Pride & Prejudice. 
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