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From: dvp@getafix (Dave Parry)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: List of UK Widescreen videos
Date: 18 Nov 92 13:24:26 GMT
Organization: ICL, Bracknell, Berks, UK
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bov@x.co.uk (Andy Bovingdon) writes:
> 
> From the 'List of UK Widescreen videos'
> 
> >Bill And Ted's Excellent Adventure
> 
> 
> Eh? Why have I not seen this one. Is it a special by Our price or WH Smiths.
> 
It's been re-released at #5.99 (pounds), don't know whether it's
widescreen though.

Dave
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From: evan@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Evan Whitney)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: _SOLARIS_ on LD
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:12:56 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA

I see that _Solaris_ has just been released. Sight & Sound says it is
166 minutes, but I seem to recall that the restored version recently
shown on PBS was about 220 minutes. That might have included pledge
breaks which could easily account for the hour difference.

Does anyone know if the LD is the full length version?

This movie, by the way, is a MASTERPIECE; however, those with
short attention spans and small bladders can rarely sit through it.

Evan

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From: Mike_Quigley@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Quigley)
Subject: Re: Criterion Going Broke?
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:26:22 GMT

To follow up on my earlier posting, a local laser disk dealer told a friend
of mine that he (the dealer) saw a written communication at HIS supplier that
Criterion had filed for bankruptcy. This supplier has a scam set up to import
disks directly from the States, bypassing the Canadian wholesalers. The whole
thing sounds very oily to me, I wouldn't put it past this supplier to start a
bogus rumour and create a sudden demand for the Criterion disks which might
become instant collectors' items if the company went down the drain.

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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Subject: Re: New LD release of MP & the Holy Grail
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Organization: The John Fluke Mfg. Co.  /a.k.a. The Gizmonics Institute/
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:20:06 GMT

In <1992Nov15.222411.25686@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> grimmer@nyx.cs.du.edu (Geoff Rimmer) writes:

>Anyone know what version is being released?
>
>The standard version is the one being sold/rented in England now.
>
>The extended version was available for rental several years ago.
>It has additional footage at the start (Auditions for the voice-over
>saying "Once in a lifetime...") and just before Galahad is "rescued"
>from Dingo by Lancelot.  Dingo says something about "Was that alright?"
>and "I am enjoying this"

Criterion originally announced it would be the "extended" version (which
played in Europe, I believe), but that was their planned deluxe CAV edition;
I have no idea what the cut-down CLV edition will have.

(BTW, I too would have preferred the CAV version with tons O' supplements;
but the CLV version will, I think, suffice -- particularly if it's the
extended version.)

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From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Subject: Re: Criterion Going Broke?
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 04:02:56 GMT

In article <17684@mindlink.bc.ca> Mike_Quigley@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Quigley) writes:
>To follow up on my earlier posting, a local laser disk dealer told a friend
>of mine that he (the dealer) saw a written communication at HIS supplier that
>Criterion had filed for bankruptcy. This supplier has a scam set up to import
>disks directly from the States, bypassing the Canadian wholesalers. The whole
>thing sounds very oily to me, I wouldn't put it past this supplier to start a
>bogus rumour and create a sudden demand for the Criterion disks which might
>become instant collectors' items if the company went down the drain.
>

You posted this rumor back in August and Criterion seems as healthy as
ever.  Has anyone else heard anything pro or con.  Sounds oily to me too.


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From: raismana@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Neal A Raisman)
Subject: Wanted - Louis de Funes et all
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Distribution: usa canada
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:05:41 GMT

  I am looking for some foreign movies I cannot find anywhere in the States
  and only in SECAM in France.  If anyone has any Louis de Funes movies, or
  has a copy of a Canadian movie named Lies My Father Told Me, I would be
  really pleased.  I am also looking for copies of Le Chevre, a French
  movie with Gerard Depardiue and Paul Richard.  It is an absolutely wonder-
  ful comedy.  In fact, I am looking for a number of French comedies and
  would be interested in hearing from you please.
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From: hal@radio.wkar.msu.edu (Hal Prentice)
Subject: Re: Pausing a damn LaserDisc player! or TRYING to!
Organization: Broadcasting Services, Michigan State University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:45:29 GMT

In article <64TDuB1w165w@amigans.gen.nz> batman@amigans.gen.nz (Kerry Emerson) writes:
>Subject: Pausing a damn LaserDisc player! or TRYING to!
>From: batman@amigans.gen.nz (Kerry Emerson)
>Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 12:05:40 GMT+1
>Are there any LaserDisc players out there in the wide wide world which 
>actually PAUSE withOUT just bringing up a blank screen?  I recently 
>(about 1 week ago) purchased `Terminator 2' on LaserDisc.  Now this movie 
>is INCREDIBLE on LaserDisc, and as I have just bought DCTV for my Amiga, 
>I wish to capture some of those brilliant morphing sequences and save 
>them in 8million colours and create a really cool animation, but out of 
>the 3 different LaserDisc players I have seen (of different makes), none 
>of them pause the movie with the image still on the screen like a normal 
>video.  Why is this?  Is this to stop pirates or something, or is it 
>impossible to freeze a LaserDisc period?
> 
>Well?  Whats up?
                                                 
The laserdisk must be formatted CAV (Constant Angular Velocity) or the LD 
player must have digital frame store capability.
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From: mike@neopath.wa.com (Mike Rosenlof)
Subject: Re: Why you _need_ Widescreen....
Organization: NeoPath
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:31:35 GMT

In article <SS.92Nov18144242@wpi.WPI.EDU> ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) writes:
>bverreau> I can't speak for the original poster, but I'm not bothered
>bverreau> by the widescreen format - when it's presented at full
>bverreau> resolution.  I'm also not bothered in the least by the black
>bverreau> or colored, or patterned bars I see on the television screen
>bverreau> for LBX discs.  It's the lost resolution that I have a
>bverreau> problem with.
>
>LBX LD's still have more resolution than a SVHS tape. 
>

Correct me if I'm wrong (on usenet?? never happens!), but not if you
mean vertical resolution. All video storage stores the same number of
scanlines of data, but the horizontal resolution varies.  So if you
have a P&S film, you have the height of a (presumably) 35mm frame
resolved onto 480 (or whatever it is) lines of video. A LBX image of
the same 35mm frame is resolved onto something like 250 lines of video
(for a panavision frame). That's the loss of resolution bverreau was 
referring to.

Any transfer (even of academy ratio films) from film to NTCS or PAL
(pick your broadcast TV standard) video involves compromises. The
spatial and color resolution and dynamic range of film is considerably
better. I could swear I've seen matte cutouts around ships on black
star backgrounds in "The Empire Strikes Back" because they had do
lighten the background to get shadow deatil without washing out the
highlights.  The P&S vs. LBX debate is just a matter of how you choose
to resolve some of the necessary compromises.

I've seen both the LBX and P&S versions of Star Wars. Stars and horizontal
lines flicker more in the LBX. Parts of the picture are cut out in P&S.
The bigger picture in P&S looks nicer, but...

I'm happiest with my discs of "Casablanca" and "It's a Wonderful
Life", full frame, full NTSC resolution, but most important of all, good
movies.

mike

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From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: analog on a laserdisc
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:45:25 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.063619.14293@news.columbia.edu> fag2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Farul A Ghazali) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.025949.2174@bilver.uucp> bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) writes:
>>To encode digital video (oh how I wish) on an LD, would give us
>>loutess than

>>only about 5 minutes of video on a 12" disk.   Digital video
>>specs currently are approximately 14MB/sec - which without
>>compression could give about a minute on a 5" CD.

>Wouldn't there be a problem with transferring the data from the disc
>to the TV at 25/30 fps too? As far as I know, CD/LD players can
>contain quite a lot of digital information, but are relatively slow
>when compared to hard disks and the like.

When it comes to digital video (using current specs) even hard disks
can't keep up (except very expensive ones).

At 14MB/sec the only viable storage medium is mag tape.   And you
record parallel bit streams and merge them.  Considering that 1/2 hour
of 14MB/sec video would take 25 GIGS of storage a $150 tape is also a
lot cheaper. :-)
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From: grimmer@nyx.cs.du.edu (Geoff Rimmer)
Subject: Re: New LD release of MP & the Holy Grail
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 22:24:11 GMT

Anyone know what version is being released?

The standard version is the one being sold/rented in England now.

The extended version was available for rental several years ago.
It has additional footage at the start (Auditions for the voice-over
saying "Once in a lifetime...") and just before Galahad is "rescued"
from Dingo by Lancelot.  Dingo says something about "Was that alright?"
and "I am enjoying this"

[Fortunately I took appropriate steps 8 years ago to ensure that
I have a copy of the extended version :-]

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From: avatar@wings.micro.umn.edu (Timothy Fay)
Subject: Re: News on BEAUTY AND THE BEAST / PINOCCHIO laserdisc releases
Organization: University of Minnesota
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 09:10:39 GMT

Ethan Solomita (es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu) wrote:
>	It would seem strange that someone involved in theater
>and video releases would be so incredibly ignorant about
>widescreen and letterboxing. Makes me wonder that he should need
>those terms explained.

Not only that, but I have to question the rationale behind delaying
the videodisc release of the theatrical BEAUTY & THE BEAST film (i.e.,
overseas piracy).  Disney hasn't done this with their other releases,
and tapes can be pirated, too (though, given the generally poor quality
of Disney's tape releases, I can see why a laserdisc copies would be
more popular with video pirates).

>	It also makes me wonder how well the interests of the
>laserdisc and letterbox buyers will be represented. 

Given Disney's history in this area, probably not very well.  To date,
Disney has not released _any_ of their films in letterbox format (even
wide-screen films that would greatly benefit from it, e.g., LADY AND THE
TRAMP and SLEEPING BEAUTY).

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From: prw@Apple.COM (Paul Wenker)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: News on BEAUTY AND THE BEAST / PINOCCHIO laserdisc releases
Keywords: Disney laserdisc LD
Date: 24 Nov 92 01:23:00 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA


The local Blockbuster Video store is taking pre-orders for Pinocchio, to
be released 3/26.  The pre-order price is $24.99, which is quite a bit
higher than the $16.99 price for Beauty and the Beast.  I wonder if this
means that the SRP will be higher as well, and if so, why?

-Paul Wenker
-Apple Computer, Inc.
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From: archer@elysium.esd.sgi.com (Archer Sully)
Subject: Re: Why you _need_ Widescreen....
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 23:37:04 GMT

In <JgcLuB5w165w@jybox.jyu.fi> otto@jybox.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) writes:

*amberle@staff.tc.umn.edu (Amberle S Ferrian) writes:
*
*> Wants to use all of the picture area on his 52" monster TV when the P&S crops
*> half the area anyway, huh?  How 'bout running Back to the Future in LB and 
*> P&S--you know, the scene when Biff hits George on the head:  "Hello, McFly?"
*
*What about Kurosawa's KAGEMUSHA -- near the beginning there is the scene where
*the general, his doppelganger and the general's aide are sitting around using
*all of the available letterbox to produce a nice balanced and serene scene.
*In P&S this scene has a manic-like quality with "talking noses" most of the
*time and the picture constantly panning left and right to try to catch the
*actor who is talking at that moment.  Truly miserable.
*

There's are worse examples in "Dersu Uzala", also from Kurosawa.

Why is it that only people with poor taste seem to be able to afford 52"
screens?

-- archer
From: dclunie@pax.tpa.com.au (David Clunie)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Basic Instinct - Director's Cut
Date: 21 Nov 1992 10:14:34 GMT
Organization: Her Master's Voice
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dclunie@pax.tpa.com.au
NNTP-Posting-Host: britt.pax.tpa.com.au


I understand that there is a version of this movie coming out
on disk with a different end ? Is this the case ? Is the "normal"
cut also available ? Anyone got the part numbers so I don't
inadvertently order the wrong one ?

david

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From: mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu (Mike S.)
Subject: Re: WAR movies-- what are the best?
Organization: BITS, St. Louis, MO
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:51:36 GMT

>>Apocalypse Now (W/S)
>>A Bridge Too Far (the greatest "epic" WWII movie, IMHO)
>>Dirty Dozen
>>Full Metal Jacket
>>Glory (A GREAT MOVIE!)
>>Patton
>>Pork Chop Hill
>Zulu from Criterion.

Kelly's Heros

Mike
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From: u0f98@seq1.keele.ac.uk (The Dominator)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: list of uk widescreen vid
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:13:03 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Keele University, England

From article <1992Nov17.2769.3067@dosgate>, by tony.camara@canrem.com (tony camara):
> I notices you mentioned something about the letter box format. It's not
> the first time i have heard it being mentioned . Just wondering are you
> for/against . If you're for it why ? I work in a video store here in
> toronto so i get to see all the people complaing "i could only see half
> the picture """ there is something wrong with the movie" ."do you have
> the whole movie "" ? This is the type of questions i get from my
> customers regarding letter box. I can''t understand why anyone would
> like this though . I have told my suppliers to warn me of anything that
> is in letter box and to cancell any orders that i have if any such
> videos show up . I recently bought a 52" tv. Now the studio onlly want;s
> to let me see half of my screen . If i wanted to see only 30" i
> wouldn''t have paid  $5000.00...........
> --
You've effectively contradicted yourself. If you watch a pan and scan
video THEN you only see half the picture.
Get a widescreen video. 
Get the whole picture.
Try two TV's together, one with a P&S film, one with a widescreen film
of the same one. THEN you'll see the difference
	Dominator
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From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Subject: Re: Pausing a damn LaserDisc player! or TRYING to!
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:56:59 GMT
Reply-To: rjn@FC.HP.COM
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

Kerry Emerson (batman@amigans.gen.nz) wrote:

> Are there any LaserDisc players out there in the wide wide world which
> actually PAUSE withOUT just bringing up a blank screen?  I recently (about
> 1 week ago) purchased `Terminator 2' on LaserDisc.  Now this movie is
> INCREDIBLE on LaserDisc, and as I have just bought DCTV for my Amiga, I
> wish to capture some of those brilliant morphing sequences and save them
> in 8million colours and create a really cool animation, but out of the 3
> different LaserDisc players I have seen (of different makes), none of them
> pause the movie with the image still on the screen like a normal video.
> Why is this?  Is this to stop pirates or something, or is it impossible to
> freeze a LaserDisc period?

The "pause" function on LD is generally defined to be
"suspend playing at the current location and display a blank screen".

If you want a displayed still-frame or field, the ability to do that depends
on the media and/or on the player.
 * If you have the CAV edition of "T2", just press the "STILL/STEP" button.
   It will display a still frame.
 * If you have the CLV edition of T2, you need a player with field or frame
   store (aka "CLV effects") - also use the Still/Step button.

If you have the CLV edition, and your player does NOT have field or frame
store, you won't be able to display still frames with any buttons.

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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Why you _need_ Widescreen....
Date: 17 Nov 92 13:14:48
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
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In-reply-to: amcalind@cs.strath.ac.uk's message of 17 Nov 92 16:54:33 GMT


amcalind> Why would you want widescreen?

amcalind> He goes on to say that he just bought a 52 inch TV, and
amcalind> wants to use ALL of the picture area. In fact, he's just
amcalind> defeated his own argument, for on a TV that size, he'll
amcalind> really get the effect.

I watch on a 52 inch TV and your right. Watching LBX movies does give
you a full effect. Maybe this guy should spend $10,000 dollars on a
projection system to change the ratio aspects. Then he won't feel he's
"loosing" any screen space. Or just settle for P&S....

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From: daf@sunset.cse.nau.edu (David Frautnick)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: "Dances with Wolves" Extended Video
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:36:58 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff AZ
Originator: daf@sunset.cse.nau.edu

Could somebody please tell me if an extended video version of "Dances with
Wolves" has been released and if so, where I can get a copy?  I read an 
article a while ago that Orion Home Video was planning on releasing a 4-hour
plus version of the film.

Please e-mail me a response.

Thank you in advance!

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From: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita)
Subject: Re: News on BEAUTY AND THE BEAST / PINOCCHIO laserdisc releases
Keywords: Disney laserdisc LD
Organization: Columbia U., New York City
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 01:25:22 GMT
Reply-To: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita)
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In article <1992Nov21.235740.3764@tc.fluke.COM> moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer) writes:
>
>    So the fact is that for now, unfortunately, there will be a delay in
>    release dates.  I thought the "Work-In-Progress" was a great collector's
>    piece on one hand, and a way to offer our laser customers a way to own
>    and enjoy BEAUTY & THE BEAST without the long delay.  When we do release
>    the full version, we'll take into account your request for letterboxing
>    (but I believe the film was not shot in widescreen format.)
>
	It would seem strange that someone involved in theater
and video releases would be so incredibly ignorant about
widescreen and letterboxing. Makes me wonder that he should need
those terms explained.

	It also makes me wonder how well the interests of the
laserdisc and letterbox buyers will be represented. 

	-- Ethan


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