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From: linmo@ecf.toronto.edu (LIN MONTEIL)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: GUNDAM: CHAR'S COUNTERATTACK <SPOILERS!>
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:31:34 GMT
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility

In article <1993Jan4.070033.9397@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:


Who the heck brought up this old skeleton again. We've had enough C.C.A debates
here to last a couple of U.Cs. >

>If I may use expletives... LIKE HELL!!  Char's the real villain, no
>doubt about that.  The way I understood it (and correct me if I'm wrong),
>he's doing all of this partly because he wants to get back at Amuro for the
>death of Lalar Sun.  Of course, his ego would never admit to himself
>something as petty as a lover's revenge, so he creates all this rethoric
>to convince himself that he's doing what he's doing only to further the
>noble Jion cause.  That he has no qualms whatsoever about manipulating
>all the people around him to achieve his goals makes him even more
>unlikable...

Although I'm tempted to blow up all over you I'm not going to. We've had this
discussion before and you know perfectly well where I stand.
>
>  about all the Feds) to zero (Quess).  Then again, the title of the film
>  *is* CHAR'S COUNTERATTACK.  ^_^

Finally. A bit of common sense.

>- Events happen waay to fast, like you were complaining about in one of
>  the sections I deleted.  Characters are met, fall in love, and die before
>  we can catch up with the story... maybe this is a bad choice for first
>  Gundam anime to watch.

It is. In a way I agree with you. A person who is not well versed in the 
Gundam universe is likely to find himself overwhelmed by all the plot. It is
highly recommended that one watches the original story before attempting to 
understand this. Just try explaining F.S.S to somebody when he's watching the
anime for the first time... I've tried, it ain't easy.
>
>P.S.  What *was* that scene with the Feds and the Jions helping Amuro to
>stop that Axis piece from falling to Earth?  Makes for some nice Fed-Jion
>cooperation bits, but makes no sense plotwise.  I mean, wasn't the Jion's
>original plan to drop Axis on Earth?  If so, why prevent it?

Actually there's a couple of possibilities but I'm sure you know of em'.

Eiji
F.E.M.C XXVII
From: m0336@tnc.UUCP (Ralph Jenkins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: AD Vision?! Never heard of them. (Was: Anime Seiya addenem Summary)
Date: 6 Jan 93 05:29:50 GMT
Reply-To: m0336@tnc.UUCP (Ralph Jenkins)
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


Albert Wong wrote:  "Of the US translated titles that have made it onto
   LD, the pricing for said LDs are dirt cheap compared to the
   original import version.  ^_^"
 
  
   I agree, except for the US pressing of Akira by Criterion.  $129.50
is a bit more than the import version.  (Okay, Criterion's disc *is*
CAV, but it is still higher.)
 
   By the way, I purchased Criterion's set over the holidays.  People
here were complaining about it, but the discs certainly look sharper
than the VHS tape!  If anyone would like a detailed review of the
supplemental part, let me know.  (My biggest complaint about the set
is that "manga" is mispelled "magna".  Considering the price,
Criterion should have corrected that!)
  
  -RJ

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From: albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku)
Subject: Re: HELP!  Am I becoming an anime snob??
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:14:13 GMT

In article <1iacqsINNq2a@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bp652@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gil W. Lau) writes:
>
>freakin' title he saw!  He was making one-line throwaway comments
>like, "Maison Ikkoku...good show!"  "Oh man!  Kanako Wada!"  "Wow! If
>I can only find Noriko Sakai!"  As if that weren't bad enough, he
>butts in and tries to take over the stack I was looking through!

That is an act of aggression...nobody takes over my stack of CDs...until
I'm done looking through them. ^_^;

>
>Then some guy is about to make a major purchase, and he has one of the
>Silent Mobius CDs on top, and the guy starts giving a movie review!
>Now I'm thinking to myself, "What the hell does this guy knows!"

Ok, so the guy is a little enthusiastic about anime. ^_^  But did he know
what he was talking about?

And no...you don't sound like an anime snob at all. ^_^
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From: ck423@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Doug Cha)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Video Girl Ai #5 Manga for sale (1st Print)
Date: 12 Jan 1993 22:01:21 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I have it.  Not in mint condition, but it is the first printing
of the incredibly hard to find manga.  The outer edges are
slightly browned due to having been treated poorly by the old
owner, but the cover is in fairly great shape.

The best way to sell this fairly is to have an auction, so I'll
let the net run it in the OPEN.  Anyone can start the bidding
off by posting a bid.  Whatever happens from there goes.

I'll let the bidding go on till next weekend, or till it appears
to have reached a halt.

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From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Animeigo (should) release KOR tv series LDs!!
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 12:01:28 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <1iiud5INNn5b@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ck423@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:
 >  
 > As Bruce had said earlier (sorry quotes don't work on this
 > piece of shit Freenet terminal), the key is to EXPAND.  Although
 > it's a high risk proposition, the rewards are extremely high.
 >  

I think we should let AnimEigo get a bit more comfortable with the
three titles a month level of releases. Talking to Janice frequently,
they seem to have their hands full keeping up with the releases.

Also you have to look at it from the purchaser's point of view. We
already have seen complaints on raa from people who simply can't keep
up financially with all of AnimEigo's releases. Even I as a fully
employed person would have trouble getting every one of their releases
(and now more LD's all the time)... :)

 > KOR should be simple as pie.  Translation is fairly straight-
 > forward (hell, I can even do translations for this series, and
 > I won't switch the names around <ahem>) and the series is damned
 > short.  A 300 level Japanese student (3rd year) can probably do
 > a good job using Arctic Scripts as a rough (and I mean ROUGH)
 > guide.

I, as a first year (sort of, I am not following any school or Uni
course) student of japanese was surprised when I rewatched the early
KOR episodes and found I could follow the dialogue perfectly. :)

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From: bs783@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Fubler Harvey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: BGCrisis! Episode 3
Date: 8 Jan 1993 19:01:28 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bs783@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Fubler Harvey)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, rb6t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Everett Brunskill) says:

>Recently I saw a friend's copy of BGC1, and liked it.  When I later went
>to the store I intended to get eps 2, but they didn't have it so I got
>eps 3.  Does this tape happen to be the worst of the series, or am I
>just missing something by not seeing eps 2?

I think it's the worst of the series, but that's just my opinion :)
BGC2 isn't much better.  However keep watching...BGC6,5 and 8 are fantastic.


>Rob Brunskill
>
>By the way, how is MD Geist?  It's about the only other thing the video
>store here carries.
>

Too bad.  MD Geist is probably the worst OAV I've ever seen.
Have the store get in something else.

-Jei

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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Subject: Criterion AKIRA LD
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:59:00 GMT

In article <Jan.6.14.17.54.1993.17532@remus.rutgers.edu>, pearl@remus.rutgers.edu (Starbuck) writes:
> 
> Hmmm... I believe that people were complaining about the Criterion LD
> compared to the Japanese LD.

I didn't think the colors in the Criterion LD were too bright, as another
poster complained.  However, the film master used was poor, with
"spots" visible in the dark scenes (of which there are plenty on this
film).  Yet again, Streamline (who supplied the master) screws up again.

On the plus side, the supplements are quite good (as is to be expected
of Criterion).  And the sound is top notch, at least in the
Japanese-language track, which is the one I listen to the most.
The surround sound in the council meeting is great; the first
time I heard those voices, I thought there WAS someone yelling
outside of my apartment!
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From: ranma@pegasus.com (Doug Cha)
Subject: Re: KOR movie
Keywords: KOR Takahashi Takada
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 18:21:13 GMT

In article <4m52n2a@rpi.edu> pomru@madoka.its.rpi.edu (John 'furball' Yung) writes:
>In article <RMC.92Dec31104749@miyazaki.wang.com> rmc@wang.com (rmc) writes:
>>This is a really fine story element.  It is emotionally powerful, it
>>is wrenching in its immediacy.  I have the highest regard for
>>Takahashi-sensei, but in all the stories i can think through by her, i
>>can't think of a single plot element quite this brilliant or powerful.
>>This is the kind of thing you find in Pushkin, or maybe DH Lawrence, 
>>not in inexpensive entertainment.  Actually, the closest parallel i
>>can think of is Zhivago's decision to leave his wife and kids for Lara.
>
>Hmmm, I think you're a bit mis-informed about one thing: Takahashi-sensei
>did not have a single thing to do with Kimagure Orange Road.  (Otherwise,
>we wouldn't have had all that flame war thing some time ago with Panda
>over KOR versus MI...)  The credit for creating KOR goes to Izumi
>Matsumoto, who authored the KOR manga.

	I'm answering for him, but I'm positive that he meant to compare
the ingenious plot element created by Matsumoto to the plot elements of
Takahashi.  I'm sure he knew that Orange Road wasn't a Takahashi creation..

>Akemi Takada, the character designer for the KOR anime series, has done
>some character designs for anime episodes of Urusei Yatsura and Maison
>Ikkoku, both based upon Takahashi-sensei's works.  This may be part of
>reason why you're mixing KOR and Takahashi-sensei together.

	Is that right?  The character designs for UY and MI don't look
like the Takada style at all..  more the typical Takahashi stt(yle..
i
>
>                              "Well, what do you say when someone comes
>                               up to you and asks, 'Oh, is that from
>                               Robotech?' while looking at your Ranma
>                               1/2 button?"
>
>
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From: ck423@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Doug Cha)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Anyone hear from Manga-chan recently?
Date: 10 Jan 1993 18:10:49 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


MANGA CHAN IS ALIVE AND WELL!!

Just to ease everyone some more (although it might irritate more
people at the same time), I got my Doujinshi from him in 
yesterday's mail.  Might have been faster because I had him send
it AIR MAIL instead of the el-cheapo way..

Regardless, he is alive..  probably just reading hentai Dojinshi
or something, I don't know.

-PS>  IF anyone else got that Rumic-World calendar from him (or
from some other source), GIVE IT TO ME!!  It's AWESOME!
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From: ken@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Primer)
Subject: Re: blasphemy Madoka
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 21:58:14 GMT

wchow@questor.org (William Chow) writes:

>Mixing anime characters for Robotech ones was not half as
>shocked when I was about two years ago on route to San Deigo Con '90.
> 
>I was in the funland arcade in Redwood city playing the
>Galaxy Express 999 video disk game wearing my Orange Road
>T-shirt with a picture of Ayukawa in a blue party dress
>lying sideways.   Anyway, a little kid of not more than 15 or
>so came up and said "I reconize that!   That's.....
>That's....     SAINT SEIYA!!!"     Well, needless to say,
>I almost died  (both in the game, and  there)
> 
>Oh well, some people just need more exposure I guess.
> 
    That reminds me of the time I saw someone wearing a t-shirt with Lum
on it. I yelled at him something about those darned annoying aliens, in which
I was greeted with a puzzled stare. Damn...it was a Matthew Sweet "Girl friend"
tour shirt. I should have figured it out because the "Lum" on the shirt had redc hair. :-P

   Saint Sieya wearing a dress? :-)

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Subject: Videos for sale: BGC1-4 (subbed)
From: Matt Pyson <MRP105@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 13:09:14 EST
Distribution: usa
Organization: Penn State University

In anticipation of the upcoming release of AnimEigo's subtitled Bubble Gum
Crisis on LaserDisc, my roommates are selling off their VHS tapes to get a
start on saving up for the disks. All tapes are nearly new (watched less than 5
times) and in their original, spiffy cases and have the equally spiffy liner
notes.

They've got Volumes 1-4 and an extra copy of Vol 3. Asking price is $20 a tape,
and if you will take the sequence from 1-4, you can have those four tapes for
$60. Will pay for snail-mail shipping within the U.S. (sorry, overseas
readers).

Replies via e-mail please (keep our newsgroup free of clutter!) to one of the
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From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair)
Subject: Re: R.A.A Awards Polling UPDATE. Official leaders
Reply-To: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Date: 12 Jan 93 09:57:39 GMT

rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal Agitator) writes:
 >>The most knowledgable (regarding Anime) user on the net
 >>        1st  Hitoshi Doi        38 (5)        
 >>        2nd  Ryan P Gavigon     24 (4)
 >>        3rd  Conty Enrique      22 (3)
 >>        10th Michael Studte      4
 >
 >1-2-3 looks good here although Mr. Studte appears to have gotten some
 >short shrift (in this entire poll actually).

Hitoshi knows a lot, but I'd say Tonghyun Kim would have to win that,
hands down.  TK is a SERIOUS otaku.  He knows things that even the
animators didn't know. :-)

There isn't an anime question for which TK doesn't have an answer;
the breadth of his knowledge is truly, really, staggering.  Maybe
"disturbing" is a better word. :-)

(How was the UtT OAV?)


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From: ferret@synecdoche.engin.umich.edu (kenneth r lipka)
Subject: Re: RUNNING MAN?
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 13:01:39 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: ferret@synecdoche.engin.umich.edu


In article <1993Jan5.210808.15613@wam.umd.edu>, danrama@wam.umd.edu (Daniel Bloomfield Ramagem) writes:
> No, the Running Man is just those 10 mins or so.  It was one of the three
> segments featured in Manie Manie: Labyrinth Tales ... or is it 
> Neo Tokyo?  I think the movie containing Running Man is called Neo Tokyo.
> It also has this great Otomo short feature: "The Order To Stop Construction."
> Or was it called "The Order To Stop Project 444?"   
> 

	But, isn't the point of Liquid TV to feature AMERICAN animation?  Therefore, RUNNING MAN is an american product.

	Ken Lipka
	ferret@engin.umich.edu
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From: doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: RAA Statistics for 1992 (the top 200 posters)
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:04:10 GMT
Organization: DEC Japan Research and Development Center

In article <1919@tnc.UUCP>, m0336@tnc.UUCP (Ralph Jenkins) writes:
# 
#    Let me pose a question.  Of the Top 10 r.a.a posters, how many
# spent more time reading and writing messages on their computers than
# they did actually watching anime?

I watch about 7 to 10 hours of anime per week (first run).
I probably spend about the same amount of time reading/writing
r.a.a, r.a.m, and anime related mail.
Also I spend a couple hours per week watching anime and using the
computer at the same time when I write summaries.
Then there's the time on the computer to polish the summaries and
do magazine summaries..  so I guess I spend more time with the
computer than watching anime.
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From: falk@unixg.ubc.ca (David Falk)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: blasphemy Madoka
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:05:09 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca

That's not the worst  misidentification I've ever run across.

I was in an art class one day, and brought my Project Ako pen case
with me.  Well this guy (about 20 years old) came up to me as said, 
"Isn't that Japanese animation?"  I said it was.  He said, "Ya I 
recognize it  that's ASTRO-BOY"  Needless to say I cringed.


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From: z_coolidgeas@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: re: Dubbed Totoro report from Miyazaki
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:02:40 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

So you've seen My Little Pony?????

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From: lazarus@quack.sac.ca.us (Albert Sze-Wei Wang)
Subject: Re: The Most Over-Hyped Anime of 1992
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
Date: 9 Jan 1993 01:59:26 UTC

In article <C0Jo3u.ABC@ecf.toronto.edu> linmo@ecf.toronto.edu (LIN MONTEIL) writes:
>In article <1993Jan8.054508.29726@netcom.com> albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan8.014521.3139@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> chiu@alumni.berkeley.edu (David Chiu) writes:
>>>Macross II, second only to Megazone 23 III in the world of OAVs.
>>>Now they're planning Macross III... (This is really depressing)

>>It'll probably be a 13 part 1/2 OAV series too. ^O^

>Can someone tell me why alot of people hate MZ23 III?? What exactly did you
>find objectionable? It might be because it's been a loooonnnggg time since I've
>seen MZ23 III but I don't remember finding it that bad, atleast art wise.

I believe a great deal of it has to do with the impatience of fans to see
something new.  Personally I found it annoying that they attached the name
"Megazone 23" when we knew for a fact is wasn't "Megazone 23" .  Marketing
ploy.  There were very few new ideas that were introduced and a lot of 
what was seen seemed to revolve the old ideas and the machines of the old
series.  In fact, almost exact replicas of the old machines from pt 1 and
pt2.  I found the plot for Megazone23 part 3 full of possibilities, none
of which were properly explored and were instead run along fairly predict-
able lines.  To me Megazone23 part 3 was a rose that was cut and completed
before the flower had even had a chance to bloom.  There could have been so 
much else they could have done with it, run it along new lines, new technology,
new machines... but they recycled the basis of everything from the other two.
It was an opportunity to introduce fresh ideas and to build on what was built
on the other two, but it didn't happen...  (Can't you tell a big Megazone23
fan is disappointed here?  Sigh.)

	I liked the concept of cyberspace and the idea of the dueling factions
involved in the story.  But the formula was more or less the same as that from
the old Megazone, the machines were virtually identical, and I felt the
characters were a little stale.  Again, more good ideas, not a whole lot of
development.  To me Megazone23 part III raised more questions than it really
answered.  Like, why did they do it?  :)  :)  :)  Anyways... just my mindless
babbling.


Albert




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From: trebor@foretune.co.jp (Robert J Woodhead)
Subject: Re: New Dirty Pair comic series (really?)
Organization: Foretune Co., Ltd.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:18:27 GMT

bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews) writes:

>As for Adam Warren doing BGC, I could've sworn that someone told me
>he saw Warren's character designs for BGC at a convention.

Adam is scripting and drawing the BGC comic, which will be released by
Studio Proteus and Dark Horse.  I've seen the pencils for the first
episode and they are hot!

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