From: deej@gorilla.nbn.com (Donna Corner Holmes)
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
Subject: Re: rec.food.veg.d (was Re: This newsgroup)
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 19:58:03 PDT
Organization: Summary Insight

riacmt@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Carol Miller-Tutzauer) writes:

> In article <aD2LiB3w164w@gorilla.nbn.com>, deej@gorilla.nbn.com (Donna Corner
>   > 
>   >Carol, nobody asked you to go away. The point was that a majority of 
>   >non-vegetarians do not tend to eat the way people who read this newsgroup
>   >eat. Vegetarians are typically more inclined to eat health food items,
> 
> I forget the original comment that prompted me to write about
> the fact that omni's also eat tofu, etc., but it was some argument
> about "Who cares what the omnivores think.  They don't eat what
> we eat anyway."  Ok, it wasn't quite that strongly worded, but
> that was the sentiment.  MY point was that the relevant group
> of omnivores to be concerned with was NOT those in the population
> at large, but rather those who participate in this forum.  Many
> omnivores (even if it is a fewer number than vegetarians)
> read and contribute to this forum because they are trying to
> reduce their consumption of meat (for any variety of reasons,
> not the least of which is health).  At the same time, most
> of these people (along with a significant portion of the 
> vegetarian participants) tire of the religious preachings 
> dealing with morals, etc.  People have different reasons for
> becoming vegetarian (or trying to eat vegetarian as often
> as possible), and all of the moral stuff gets in the way of
> veg.cooking.

Yes, I basically agreed with this in my last post. However, I think
you got the "sentiment" wrong in my original post. What I was trying
to suggest was not that we didn't need a subgroup for the debates, 
but that I didn't want to see us simply combining our recipes with
all the others and turning this group into a flame-war free-for-all.

> The actual series of postings that prompted my comment are now
> long gone, and only my comment remains.  But basically it 
> originated in response to someone mentioning that omni's would
> be interested in the COOKING stuff in a vegetarian newsgroup,
> but not the REASONS for being/becoming vegetarian.  To which
> someone said something to the effect of "Why would that be
> the case?  They don't eat what we eat anyway."  

I said that I didn't think most omni's would be interested in our
recipes and we probably weren't interested in theirs, but it was in
response to the proposal that we move our recipes over to the other
recipe group, not as you suggested above. And I still think that the
omni's who are reading this newsgroup are a small minority amongst
most of the meat-eaters of the world. In my experience, there are 
very few meat-eaters who will eat tofu, seitan, etc. That's simply
a statement of my experience. For those of you who are different, I
salute you.

I just think the two recipe groups are better kept separate. Those 
omni's who are interested in becoming more vegetarian can certainly 
read this newsgroup any time they want to, just as you do.
 
> That's all.  Just thought I'd clear up my original intentions.
> I still think it would be a good idea to move the controversial
> stuff to a subgroup or something.  

Me, too.  That's why I supported the idea. 



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