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From: leebass@IASTATE.EDU (Edward A Lee)
Subject: Re: Beginner Question
Reply-To: leebass@IASTATE.EDU (Edward A Lee)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 04:25:54 GMT

   2048	Re: is it possible to plug guitar into stere  jimlynch@netcom.com     In
article <C071J3.Mo5@sdf.lonestar.org>, bryce@sdf.lonestar.org (Bryce Hamm)
writes:
> I recently (just this week) purchased my first bass guitar
> i really didnt know what i was doing, just wondered if this
> was a good choice and if i was taken..
> 
> I had two choices.
> 
> 1 4 string Ibeniz(sp) for 255$ off of the original of 539$
> 1 4 string Fender for 265$ off of the original of 589$
> i got the fender.
> is that a good choice for a beginner
> and does anyone reccomend any good books on learning
> the bass, i wanna learn how to read both the music and tabature
> 
> thanx
> bryce@sdf.lonestar.org
> 

The Fender is a good choice......for now.  By the way, which Ibanez are you
refering to? The SG series or ........  And which Fender did you buy?  A Jazz or
a Precision.   What is your "STYLE" of music?  I can help.

leebass
From: aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Steven J.)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: fretless tips...
Date: 6 Jan 1993 20:37:40 GMT
Organization: The Other Side of the CPU
Distribution: world
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pturner@sedona.intel.com (Pete Turner) writes:
: 
: One other thing: I've heard that there is a sustain difference in the
: use of flat's as opposed to round-wounds...a rather dramatic one. does
: anyone know if this is a dramatically improved or decreased sustain over
: round-wounds? (can you tell I've never played a set of flat's?)

I would think that sustain isn't so much an issue as just over-all tone
quality.  Sustain is a more a function of the quality of the (bass)guitar
and how new/fresh the strings are.


Steve J. White
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: pturner@sedona.intel.com (Pete Turner)
Subject: Re: fretless tips...
Originator: pturner@sedona
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:14:41 GMT


For those of those who said that they marked up their fretboards with
round-wound strings, I'd like to ask "what kind of wood was it that 
ripped so easily?".

One other thing: I've heard that there is a sustain difference in the
use of flat's as opposed to round-wounds...a rather dramatic one. does
anyone know if this is a dramatically improved or decreased sustain over
round-wounds? (can you tell I've never played a set of flat's?)

Thanks,

	Pete
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:11:03 -0500 
From: Christopher Kalevi Nuuja <cn09+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Flea's tone-Sir Psycho Sexy

Mike wrote:
>I had (in the 70's) was an Electro-Harmonix "Zipper. . .

Funny, I have an Electro Harmonix pedal called Doctor Q which sounds exactly
the same.  Anyone know how the Doctor Q differed from the Zipper?
The Mutron more options for altering the sound than the Doctor Q.  I saw a
picture of Bill Laswell playing through three of these pedals in a row.
I believe you can see a mutron on the gatefold to the new Beastie Boys album
as well.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: trhughes@icaen.uiowa.edu (Timothy Richard Hughes)
Subject: WANTED: Yamaha BB3000
Originator: trhughes@cie1
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:15:50 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa 
Keywords: bass, bass guitar, yamaha


I am trying to find a Yamaha BB3000 bass.  The model
was discontinued a couple of years ago; if anyone has
one or knows of one for sale (even if it's
still in a store somewhere) I would appreciate the
info.  I have one that's fretless and I am looking
for a fretted one to match.

 
Tim Hughes
e-mail: trhughes@icaen.uiowa.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: seeker@rgm.com (Lore Seeker)
Subject: flatwound vs roundwound
Organization: RGM *nix - Sacramento, CA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 10:47:32 GMT

 When I bought my fretless around 6 months ago I noticed the etchings
in the fretboard, so after listening to the previous advice about
flatwounds I decided to purchase some recently. WOW! What a change!
It not only will be easier on my fretboard, but this is the sound that
I have admired for a long time. It's really hard to explain what
I'm talking about, but the sustain is different and the tone is a lot 
more "earthy". I love the sound that these flatwounds produce.
 
 
 
Lore Seeker               seeker@rgm.com            Sacramento,CA
 
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From: cwalker@canopus.cs.bucknell.edu (carleton walker `93)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: fretless tips...
Date: 7 Jan 1993 18:39:00 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
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In article <1993Jan6.181441.25773@ichips.intel.com> pturner@sedona.intel.com (Pete Turner) writes:
>
>For those of those who said that they marked up their fretboards with
>round-wound strings, I'd like to ask "what kind of wood was it that 
>ripped so easily?".

	I don't think it was rosewood. I once met a bass player who
used a maple neck. He said he had to replace it frequently (once a
year). 

Carl
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: petek@vipunen.hut.fi (Petri 'Pete' Karha)
Subject: Re: Bass Amp Plans... 2nd. posting
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date:  7 Jan 93 12:46:37 GMT

In <1993Jan6.234413.20248@hpcvusn.cv.hp.com> fredh@cv.hp.com (Fred Handloser) writes:
>anyone seen it there yet?

Nope. Maybe it could be posted in this group also?

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Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: seeker@rgm.com (Lore Seeker)
Subject: More fretless tips!
Organization: RGM *nix - Sacramento, CA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 09:31:54 GMT

 As mentioned earlier, I've only been playing fretless for about
6 months and would very much appreciate more fretless tips, focusing
mainly on different playing styles. I'm really starting to enjoy
fretless and want to keep interested, if you know what I mean. :)
 
 
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: fretless tips...
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:12:32 GMT

In article <1i8mp6INNsjv@coral.bucknell.edu> cwalker@canopus.cs.bucknell.edu  
(carleton walker `93) writes:
> In article <1993Jan1.075822.28361@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>  
Joseph.V.Kelly.Jr@dartmouth.edu (Joseph V. Kelly Jr) writes:

> >Use flat wound strings instead of regular wound strings... this
> >prevents etching of the fingerboard which results in irregular play.

> 	I've tried flatwounds on a fretted bass of mine once, and they
> sounded deathly dull.

.and the answer is...

*** G R O U N D  R O U N D S ***

Love 'em!

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From: cwalker@canopus.cs.bucknell.edu (carleton walker `93)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: More fretless tips!
Date: 6 Jan 1993 17:24:57 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
NNTP-Posting-Host: canopus.cs.bucknell.edu

In article <9301060130.13@rgm.com> seeker@rgm.com (Lore Seeker) writes:
> As mentioned earlier, I've only been playing fretless for about
>6 months and would very much appreciate more fretless tips, focusing

	Practice using headphones. The headphones really force you to
listen to every note you play. Even if your working on some fast runs,
you'll really be able to tell if a not is off.

carl
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass,rec.music.makers.bass
From: rost@tecrus.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost)
Subject: Re: Hohner JBFL fretless bass.
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date:  5 JAN 93 08:49:08    


In article <C0CLEv.63D@news.iastate.edu>, jsturges@iastate.edu (Jason L Sturges) writes...
> Hello.  Going back and looking thru the 1993 bass buyers guide, I noticed
>a bass (made by Hohner - the JBFL) because of it's fingerboard -  phenolic.
>This really impresses me.   Isn't this the highly expensive  material only
>found on Zon and  Steinberger basses  (or a few others over $2,000)?  This
>bass is  only $439!!   Although it does  come with  passive electronics (2
>single-coil  Jazz  pickups) this  still seems  like a  good deal!   Is the
>idea of this anything like the Zon Sonus - a new Jazz bass for the 90s? 
> 

Phenolic fingerboards are used on basses with graphite necks probably because
it's easier to bond to the neck than wood would be, also it probably hass
similar expansion properties to the graphite (moreso than wood does).

It's been used on low-end instruments before, including the Ovation Applause
line of $200 aluminum neck acoustic guitars.  Kramer also used it on all their
metal-neck instruments.

I'll bet Hohner uses it because it looks and feels like an ebony board and
wears better than rosewood (important in a fretless bass).  And it's way
cheaper than ebony.

I'd bet that the Hohner with some better pickups in it would be a real nice
low-cost fretless.


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From: silver.e@zooid.guild.org (Eric Silver)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Lesson Of The Week
Date: 12 Jan 93 07:12:37 GMT

I just happened to look at another newsgroup called  alt.guitar  .
Many, many readers have posted over there an interest in a lesson
of the week. I think in this newsgroup a similar response would
likely exist for BASS players. The suggested level might incorporate
a beginner/intermediate level posting each week by experienced players
and BASS teachers. Some suggested topics might include;
Basic Theroy - Notes
             - Time Signatures
             - Basic Techniques
             - Tablature
             - Exercises

Basic Practice - Basic Chord Outlines
               - Scale outlines
               - Rythmn exercises

Intermieadiate - Jazz Techiques
               - Jazz Scales
               - Blues Scales and Chord Outlines
               - Exercises

etc ... etc .... etc ...

PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME EMAIL ON THIS POST. MAKE YOUR POSTINGS PUBLIC.

One thing I did notice happen over in  alt.guitar was that there was
lots of concensus on the idea and quite a few volunteers. But, noone has
actually posted a lesson as yet. Hmmm ...

Whaddaya think??????????????

Eric Silver - York, Upper Canada.

Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass,rec.music.makers.bass
From: whale@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stephen Schmidt)
Subject: Re: Lesson Of The Week
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 18:25:43 GMT

If we're going to post a Lesson of the Week, let's post it to
rec.music.makers.bass instead: more people can read that group.
I think it's a good idea if we have somone (or several someones)
willing to put something about. Might be best to have four people
doing it in rotation, once per month.

Cross-posted to alt.guitar.bass and rec.music.makers.bass.
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: jeffp@netcom.com (Jeff)
Subject: Re: fretless tips...
Organization: BeHereNow
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:48:23 GMT

Just to make sure we are starting from ground zero here...

Jaco pulled the frets out of his '61 Jbass and filled in the cracks
with white stuff and then used epoxy boat resin to finish the finger-
board. This works real well, but you have to use several very thin 
coats, and it is a bitch to level out the finger board when you are
finished, so take it to your local bass luthier and get him to
level it out for you if you want to be sure there are no buzzes 
in it...

Everybody knows Jaco used Rotosound SwingBass strings, a new
set every night. this is one of the few ways to deal with 
roundwound strings on a fretless bass, and is much less of
a compromise, than half/flat wound strings. It sounds crisp
and poppy, compared to the straight wood, so you can slap it too.

Pedula in Mass. will do a Diamond Coat for your bass as well.
He can finish your neck the same as his find fretless peices of
art... for a price. I think it costs around $200 plus shipping
to get him to do it, so the home-method above is much cheaper...

Jeff-

Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: fredh@cv.hp.com (Fred Handloser)
Subject: Re: Bass Amp Plans... 2nd. posting
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:44:13 GMT

francis deck (fdeck@vyasa.helios.nd.edu) wrote:
:                   A HOME-MADE BASS AMPLIFIER
: 
: no breakdowns or other surprises.  A postscript file containing
: the schematics has been sent to the newsgroup alt.sources.


I've looked in alt.sources and haven't found this file.  Has
anyone seen it there yet?


  Fred Handloser
  Corvallis, Oregon
  fredh@cv.hp.com
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk (Clive Grace)
Subject: Double Bass for Sale
Reply-To: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 15:57:00 +0000

Subject: Double Bass for Sale
=============================

[For UK post only: Sorry my mailer can't automatically do UK 
distribution posts.]


3/4 size Double Bass for sale. Blonde, carved Zeller model, includes 
soft case. A-mazing sound, but sadly I'm moving to smaller premises 
that only allow for my bass guitars.

Two years old, never gigged, never left my house and it's in 
absolutely pristine condition. Cost #670. Want to sell for #550 
o.n.o.

Please don't follow up in this newsgroup, please Email me for more 
information and I'll post you my telephone number if you';re 
interested.

Thank you

Clive Grace
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: rost@tecrus.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost)
Subject: Re: fretless tips...
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date:  7 JAN 93 09:32:15    


In article <1993Jan6.181441.25773@ichips.intel.com>, pturner@sedona.intel.com (Pete Turner) writes...
> 
>For those of those who said that they marked up their fretboards with
>round-wound strings, I'd like to ask "what kind of wood was it that 
>ripped so easily?".
> 

It doesn't "rip", it just gets scratch marks under the strings.  Jaco used to
coat his J-bass board with boat epoxy and Pedulla also epoxies their boards for
this reason.  My fretless is rosewood and I started seeing marks after six
months of roundwound use.  It's not drastic, but it means that after a few
years, you'll need the board sanded down, over *many* years possibly replace
the whole thing.  A friend who had a mid-60s P-bass strung with Rotos had his
baord sanded every year and finally had to have a new board put on after about
six or seven years.  Ouch!


					Brian Rost @tecrus.enet.dec.com

					508-568-6115

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From: mcp@cs.umd.edu (Mike Polek)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Peavey T-40
Date: 6 Jan 93 17:48:47 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742


Hello, all!

I recently bought the black Washburn 5-string advertised here (and couldn't
be happier (thanks Will!)). Now, I have an extra bass I really don't need.
It's a Peavey T-40 - kinda old and really heavy, but it keeps it's tune
amazingly well. Anyway, I am interested in selling it, but I have absolutely
no idea what to ask for it. What's fair? How much can I reasonably expect
for it? It's in good shape, and comes with a hardshell case.

Is anyone familiar with T-40's and could help me? Thanks a bunch!

Damian Hammontree, Soul Pit
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:43:12 CST
From: <U59919@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Lesson Of The Week

I think the lesson of the week would be kewl.
I could use the help.

Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: SENDIAA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: Socks and dregs and rolling ruckus
Organization: Yale University
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 18:44:08 EST

In article <16B50FED4.SENDIAA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>
bernard@territorial.pissings.unc.slunk.edu writes:
 
>
>Bass is the best, mused Joachim, slinging his monster Fender Precision over
>his blistered shoulder and opening the window wide so that the stupid
>multitude could be treated to his Line of the Day, broadcasted through a
>six-foot Ampeg with good head. Bassists are the best, he added, smiling into
>the mirror at the black curly locks that wafted across his eyes, giving a
>transient and charming illusion of a split persona.
>
>Joachim opened his Book of Bass Quotes and began to read his favorite aloud,
>his undertones resonant with warm vibration: "The trickle of passers-by
>gradually turned into a stream, and then the stream turned into a torrent, and
>then the torrent turned into an avalanche, and then the avalanche turned into
>a torrent, and then the torrent turned into a stream and then the stream
>turned into a trickle."
>
>Joachim had written that himself. It was about his new bass line. The bass
>line started on an open A, softly, slowly: A, B, A, B, A, B, C. Then it picked
>up in tempo and rhythm, adding eighth notes: AABBAABBABCE---DCB, over and
>over. Still quiet, but growing louder -- ah, Joachim had to take off his
>shirt. Now A, CBA, CBA, CBA -- G#A (an octave up -- now back down) DCBA.
>Louder and louder, faster and faster. Now some slap! Hit that open E twice in
>a row, that's it: EE A-Bflat-A-G# EE G#AG#G EE GG#GF# EE F#GF#F and so on,
>down to A, then back up, faster, louder, then slower, softer, and everything
>counting backwards, coming down, calming down, smiling too loud, sweat and
>tears, applause from the glowing lanterns outside, sweet-tasting haze,
>silence.
>
>Zonked.
>
>Bernard, I did that in 10 minutes
 
This piece originally appeared in alt.non.sequitur.
From: cwalker@canopus.cs.bucknell.edu (carleton walker `93)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: fretless tips...
Date: 4 Jan 1993 06:51:18 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
NNTP-Posting-Host: canopus.cs.bucknell.edu

In article <1993Jan1.075822.28361@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Joseph.V.Kelly.Jr@dartmouth.edu (Joseph V. Kelly Jr) writes:
>I bought a Guild Pilot Fretless a year ago, and here are some random
>hints I have come up with after a year of massive fretless playing:
>
>Use flat wound strings instead of regular wound strings... this
>prevents etching of the fingerboard which results in irregular play. If
>you want a little slap or a crisp sounding pop buy a set of light gauge

	I've been playing a Fender Jazz Special (89) constantly for four
years now. I've used only roundwound strings. If you look at the
rosewood fretboard, you can tell where the strings have been rubbing
against the fretboard, but, if you rub your finger across the board,
you can feel only the faintest of markings. No deep gouges here.

	I've tried flatwounds on a fretted bass of mine once, and they
sounded deathly dull. It seems to me that the roundwounds offer you a
brighter sound, especially if you play close to the bridge. I use my
fretless for a lot of upright fakes in our jazz band, and it sounds
fairly woody. I wouldn't really want anything more woody, because a
lot of the places that we play are big halls, even field houses. I
have a hard time keeping the sound defined without making it too
electric.

	Anyone know if Jaco, Mark Egan, or any of the other big
fretless players use flatwounds?

Carl
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From: cwalker@canopus.cs.bucknell.edu (carleton walker `93)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Beginner Question
Date: 4 Jan 1993 06:54:05 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
NNTP-Posting-Host: canopus.cs.bucknell.edu

In article <C071J3.Mo5@sdf.lonestar.org> bryce@sdf.lonestar.org (Bryce Hamm) writes:
>I had two choices.
>
>1 4 string Ibeniz(sp) for 255$ off of the original of 539$

	If the Ibanez is a CT-1 (passive) or a CT-3 (active), I'd buy
it. In fact, I just did a few weeks ago and couldn't be happier (a
CT-1 that is).

Carl
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass,rec.music.makers.bass,rec.music.makers.guitar.tab
From: seppi@ruble.fml.tuwien.ac.at (YASHI)
Subject: REQ: Sharp Dressed Man BassTAB
Organization: Technical University of Vienna
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 10:30:59 GMT


Anyone who can post or email the BassTab of Sharp Dressed man by ZZTOP?

Thanx,


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