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From: JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jay Brandt (Jason))
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Introduction (was Eh?)
Followup-To: alt.callahans
Date: 20 Nov 1992 20:54:54 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon, Architecture
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Nov19.202659.6550@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>,
walker@superboy.jsc.nasa.gov (Cybernetic Samurai) wrote:
> Projecting behind his head is a white, or ivory, cylinder carved
> into what seems to be a handle.
> 
> "Howdy," he says, "the names Doug, but most folks know me as the 
> Cybernetic Samurai. I'm a newbie in these parts but know of this 
> place by reputation."
> 
> "Glad I found it, though.  It's been a long road getting here and
> I can use the rest and the company." :)

Over at one of the smaller tables a man in a black leather jacket and black
Greek fisherman's hat is apparently playing some sort of game with a feline
human woman who has downy golden fur. The playing field is a holographic
cube floating above a laptop-sized computer. The woman is franticly
entering commands via the keyboard and trackball. Her opponent is simply
staring at the holo-cube while his side holds its own in the contest. He is
connected to the computer by a 5mm black cable that connects to a jack on
the back of his head, just under his pony-tail. He looks up as the newcomer
announces himself. "Pause." he says, and the display freezes with one of
the woman's starships in mid-explosion. He turns to the stranger, as does
his companion. The newcomer notices as she turns that the woman is quite
feline indeed, with the ears, whiskers, and tail of a very large housecat.
The man speaks. "Konichi-wa, Cybernetic Samurai-sama. My name is Jason, and
my friend here is Thyra. Welcome to the place! If you don't mind me asking,
are you by any chance a Decker? That would seem to be some sort of
interface behind your head."

The newcomer starts to answer, but stops cold as he watches Thyra dwindle
in size to a small kitten with a black velvet bow around it's neck. She
jumps up in Jason's lap and purrs. He chuckles. "Oh! I should have told
you. Thyra here is a shape-shifter. I think she was getting bored with our
game. Can we get you another beer?"

Jason & Thyra
.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: pmpusbob@iastate.edu (Christian M Charlebois)
Subject: Re: Science and god: Are they incompatible? If so, why?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:23:03 GMT

	"BTW, about summing up Christianity into one description, of course its
possible.  There has to be one decribing characteristic that defines a 
Christian.  Something with which we can say "he's a Christian and he's not".
For me it is the acceptance of Jesus Christ as savior.  I think a lot of
Christians would agree with me."
	Pompus Bob puts a Twix bar between his lips like a cigar and turns
back toward his just opened Grape NeeHi.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: maryb@cix.compulink.co.uk (Mary Branscombe)
Subject: Re: Rejoice, and Velvet reels
Reply-To: maryb@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:00:00 +0000


Hi Velvet. I wouldn't normally say that I'm that keen on Celtic music 
although my tasts vary from eclectic to catholic depending on the 
time of day. But I went to a *superb* gig by Robin Williamson from 
the Incredible String Band last tuesday... mostly harp and truly 
beautiful music....real songs, real stories, real music (real good 
evening)
Jason - do you know a harp piece called the blackbird, whihc can be 
played fast or slow (or both to show you can do it!!)?

mary
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From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: UK Realspace
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:55:41 GMT


>> [Rhodri (Windsinger) announces a UK RealSpace for the Wolf's visit]

>Uh-oh. Danger Mouse is curious now.

>"I just had a thought. I (and a few other Aus Callahanians) have met the
>Wolf in RL. And now he's meeting Rhodri and a bunch of UK Callahanians.
>I've also met shadowshine, who has met Castellan, who has met...

>"Get the picture? I'm wondering just how far chains of mutually RL-met
>Callahanians go. I envisage a big chart, showing all the links, from
>which one could read off the various connections. Like a graph network
>in computer science theory.

>"Hmmm... is anyone willing to compile the information? And yes, I
>realise the difficulty and impracticality of it all. I'm just really
>curious. And I'm dangerous when I'm curious. <evil grin>"

>- Danger Mouse.


"well, mousekins....i can give you a few.  first you need kateri's
guest list from her parties...

kateri
me and tc
snark
toothpick and prelan
crazyman john and semidemi bill
lamplighter
archteryx
c-hawk
kali and hobbes
...

help me....there are LOTS more for this list!

the callahanians here in champaign are:

kitten
edotto (an old and dear friend)
archteryx
...

again, help....my brain is dead.

....

i have spoken via phone to didi, nick chopper, yue-shun, SEA, lord
galdrin... 

....

i sent bellman books...and you and i have exchanged chocolate...

....

i KNOW i am missing people...please...i don't mean to offend...but my
brain is dead....

sigh.

kitten
--
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conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"love is the wild card of existance"
                          rita mae brown
From: mjmh@crsa.bu.edu (Michael J M Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: God and Science:  The Ramblings of The Nightstalker
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:48:14 GMT
Organization: Boston University Center for Remote Sensing

In article <1992Nov20.002622.10637@ucc.su.OZ.AU> pope@physics.su.OZ.AU (The Nightstalker) writes:

>The Nightstalker reappears from the shadows.

>"Does anyone know where the books are kept in this place, I need something
>on EASTERN RELIGIONS AND BELIEF SYSTEMS.  BTW, Mike could you get
>Mishael anything that he would like to drink/eat/whatever, and tell him
>that I'll be wherever the books are kept here if he wants a chat."

Coming back from the bar with a fresh, deep-purple Grape Crush in 
his hand, /* hears The Nightstalkers request.

"Well, I'm not an expert, but as one of the people mentioning
Eastern Religions, I *should* have a few suggestions! :) "

"I don't know if The Place has them in the shadows, but they were
all readily available in bookstores around here."

"For Buddhism, you could either go with 'What The Buddha Taught,'
I believe the authors name is Rahula Walpola.  It's a very well
done introduction for Westerners, and was actually a textbook in
a Religious Studies course I took at UMass/Boston."

"Or, you could pick up any copy of the 'Dhammapada,' which is
a slim book of various teachings by the Buddha.  If there is
a 'Buddhist Bible,' the Dhammapada would be the main focus."

"For a look at Taoism, my favorite remains 'The Tao of Pooh' - 
this book is also a relatively easy read, and a lot of fun!  The
author examines Taoist principles with a varitey of characters
from the Winnie-The-Pooh stories.  I highly recommend it."

"I'm not as well read in Confucianism, Hinduism, or Jainism, so
maybe someone else out their can help.  I have read some of
the Hindu Upanishads, which were interesting, but slower reading
than some of the other books I've read."

"I hope this helps!"

-- 
========================================================================
Mike Holmes       mjmh@crsa.bu.edu           "Happiness Will Prevail!"
Boston University Department of Geography (a truly GREAT place to work!)
========================================================================
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: mar@physics.su.OZ.AU (David Mar)
Subject: Re: Economics and the Environment
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:03:12 GMT

> [ /* says:]
>"For another quick example of marketing excess, compact discs are 
>marketed with about twice as much cardboard and plastic wrap than is
>necessary.  It has never made much sense to me - and even if you
>aren't a big environmentalist, it must seem ludicrous."

Danger Mouse nods. "Yes, I've seen how you North Americans buy compact
discs. It is indeed ludicrous.

"Here in Australia, when you buy a CD, what you get is: the actual CD,
the plastic flip-open storage case, the liner notes. No superfluous
packaging at all. And what is displayed in the music stores is simply
the plastic storage cases - none of this enormous, wasteful packaging.

"I've heard it said in the US that CD's need the extra packaging so that
they are harder to steal. Well, here it is virtually impossible to
steal a CD from a store because most stores take the simple expedient
of removing the actual disc from the case while the case is being
displayed. In the larger chain stores, where this can be inconvenient,
the case (with disc inside) is locked into a reusable plastic frame. This
frame triggers the theft-detection systems if it goes through the store
doors, and can only be removed by a special device used by the cashiers.

"If we, in our poor third-world backwater, can do this, why can't the
technological might of the US?"

- Danger Mouse.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: xrjdm@twinpeaks.gsfc.nasa.gov (Joseph D. McMahon)
Subject: Re: The Difference Injure..
Organization: NASA/GSFC NCCS
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:44:36 GMT
Reply-To: xrjdm@calvin.gsfc.nasa.gov 
X-Posted-From: twinpeaks.gsfc.nasa.gov
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In article <9ht16h@rpi.edu>, youngj4@aix02.ecs.rpi.edu (Jeffrey 'Taldin' Young) writes:
> Glass shards fly, empaths wince, and real tears well up in 
> Taldin's eyes.  "..because ah don' give two snits what YOU
> have for a brain, bastards." A choked off sob, and Taldin
> slumps to a sitting position on the floor, at the line.
> Looks up. "Huh? No, not you all. You at least have a chance
> of seeing me for what I am.  You have intelligence and wit, and
> feelings and respect..."  He waves back hands to assist him,
> standing on his own power, with a sniffle.
Sab comes over and leans up against Taldin, with his "what can I do?" look on.

> 
> "So why the hell do they call me 'Robin Hood?' And *laugh*?
Joe says, "Some people just do not understand the ability to *be* different. 
I wear a dragon earring on my left ear, and not a small one, either.
I get a lot of comment about 'pretty wild earring' and such. I always
smile and say 'Thanks'."

> If it was at a distance, I'd ignore it. Do not encourage.
> Keep walking.  Pretend you didn't hear. You are beneath
> my notice. Go away.  But I can't pretend I don't hear it,
> inside.  It *hurts*.  And I try and brush it off, but sometimes
> I can't..."
"Nope. You have to realize that most people don't know how to deal with
the unusual, even the mildly unusual. Perhaps these folks think they 
are funny. Meeting their crudity and yahooism with grace will confuse
hell out of them."

> << You're sticking up for yourself.  That's self-respect.  You
> didn't shake his hand.  You have self-respect. >>
"More self-defense than self-respect. I hope you don't think I'm being
difficult. Self-respect is saying 'Actually, the name is Jeff. How you 
doing.' You've disarmed the person speaking to you by being charming
and decent, making them look like the dolt that they are. It's very
effective. Sort of a verbal aikido."
> 
>          ... and then I will leave this place with a diploma and
> never have to deal with those idiots again."
"Those *particular* ones, yes. But there are still an awful lot of them 
out there."

> 
> "Is there something wrong with being myself?  With choosing
>  a fashion of clothing that I like?  Why do they pick on me?
>  If I were taller and stronger then they wouldn't do that."
"Most people strive for conformity, and are uncomfortable
with it, but will maltreat those who want to be different because they
are so unconfortable with the idea that they've wasted their time
trying to be just like everybody else..."

> 
> "I ain't gonna change for them or anyone."
Sab delicately licks Taldin's fingers, once.

-- 
                  Joe McMahon | How could you understand the animals' language?
                  P.O. Box 13 | How the rest-room is to be coloured?
            Lothian, MD 20711 | Which was the point to confuse Kandinsky?
xrjdm@twinpeaks.gsfc.nasa.gov |                    ---  m.alexander@itec.spb.su
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: maryb@cix.compulink.co.uk (Mary Branscombe)
Subject: Re: God and Science:  The Ramblings of The Nightstalker
Reply-To: maryb@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:41:00 +0000


I wonder if it is something to do with the fact that scientists in 
particular have to *think*. Not feel, not emote, not sloppy 
figure-it-out, but really *think* about the way something is and why 
and how.... Just doing that a little bit opens you up to seeing how 
*much* of everything there is out there and how wonderful it is and 
how wonderfully made.... (made =/= teleological Creator perspective 
but just the way it fits together) 
Socrates/Plato (*you* distinguish them)
"The unexamined life is not worth living"

mary
apprentice potter
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From: ml5a+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Beirne Lively)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: The Difference Injure..
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:39:03 GMT
	<1e4csmINNc8o@gap.caltech.edu>
Organization: Sophomore, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.alt.callahans: 15-Nov-92 Re: The Difference
Injure.. Speaker-to-Minerals@SOL1 (398)



> > If I were taller and stronger then they wouldn't do that."

> I suspect you're wrong in that claim.


Thats why some of us had those sorts of problems.

-I remember the the glory days when we sat with the king.
Dining on meh yams and washing it down with red rum.
ML5A@andrew.cmu.edu Bear aka the Lord High Rulebender
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: keulen@possum.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Mike van Keulen)
Subject: Re: comment about fruit cake Re: Jason rambles from home
Organization: Murdoch University
Date: 20 Nov 92 02:51:16 GMT

jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce) writes:

>   "Johnny Carson always said this time of year was when people took the
>fruitcake that they received last year gets re-wrapped and sent to someone
>else... 'There is only one fruit cake, we just send slices of it, uneaten,
>to our realtives and friends. Then the following year we send out the slices
>that somebody sent us !' A paraphrase, but fairly close I believe..." DJ.

Splash looks aghast ... "What - you mean you don't _eat_ your fruit cake?!
Sacrilege!  I don't know of _any_ cakes that aren't meant to be eaten
(well, except maybe mud pies ... depends on the mud :-) ). 

Splash!

--
***************************** Michael van Keulen *************************** 
* Snail: School of BES - Biology         e-mail: keulen@murdoch.edu.au     *
*        Murdoch University              phone:  ++ 61 (09) 360-2843 (work)*
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*************************** "To Love is to _LIVE_!" ************************
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: wyang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William D Yang)
Subject: Re: illuminati
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:06:14 GMT


<heaving a heavy sigh>
 
In article <memo.749948@cix.compulink.co.uk> maryb@cix.compulink.co.uk writes:
> In-Reply-To: <1992Nov9.175203.4433@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> wyang@magnus.acs-.ohio-state.edu (William D Yang)

> hey!
> Mary peers closely at the poster she was just talking to.
> "Magnus" And you're asking *us* to explain the illuminati? 

I'm sure you wouldn't believe me if I told you OSU had nothing to do
with the Illuminati... so, I'll exerpt from the first couple lines of
the manual page for 'magnus' here at OSU, which describes our
systems and system operation...
 
.  .  .
   18 December 1991                                                magnus(7l)

   NAME
     magnus - a brief description of MAGNUS

   DESCRIPTION
     The name MAGNUS is derived from "Mail and Global News User System".  The
     MAGNUS system is a cluster of several Unix computers run by Academic
     Computing Services (ACS) for use by members of the Ohio State University
     community. 

    [digression into really boring technical things deleted]


   SEE ALSO

     help - a command that shows a brief list of UNIX commands.

     software - a manual page describing software available on MAGNUS

     fnord - a useful command for experienced users^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hman - use _m_a_n _m_a_n for help with the man facility

     cti - an on-line tutorial


   AUTHOR
     This manual page is maintained by the MAGNUS staff.  Please send com-
     ments to suggest@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
.  .  .

As you can see, Magnus here at OSU has nothing to do with the Illuminati. 
 
	-Bill
--
William D. Yang         wyang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu         Yang.25@osu.edu
Technical Assistant to North Area Computing Sites at The Ohio State University.
It's my opinion, but if you really want it, you can have it for a nominal fee.
ObPhilosophy:  One's mind should always reach fnorder than one's overbite.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: dgreen@jarthur.claremont.edu (David Green)
Subject: Re:  Science and god:  Are they incompatible?  If so, why?
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:26:55 GMT

In article <1eg3hpINNf21@gap.caltech.edu> lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
->In article <1992Nov19.033314.13041@muddcs.claremont.edu>, dgreen@jarthur.claremont.edu (David Green) writes:
->=In article <1eefs2INN59v@gap.caltech.edu> lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
->=->In article <1992Nov18.203953.4479@muddcs.claremont.edu>, dgreen@jarthur.claremont.edu (David Green) writes:
->=>=->"I don't know" is now a belief?
->=>=
->=>=To answer a question with a question: How would an agnostic respond if I
->=>=were to ask, "What do you believe about God?"
->=>
->=>An agnostic would respond along the lines of "The question is ill-formed.  I
->=>don't know whether or not god exists, so how can I possibly believe anything
->=>about it?"
->=
->=*cough* What it looks like to me is that the person _believes_ that s/he 
->=cannot know whether God exists.  Unless you can point out to me how this 
->=differs significantly from what you just said?
->
->I'll be glad to answer your question if you'll tell me what you think of the
->color of the shirt I'm wearing.

Nice shade, though a bit on the loud side for my tastes.

->NOW do you see the distinction?

Mishael throws up his hands in a surrender gesture.  "I suppose I use the term
`religion' for lack of a better term to use in that case.  In my mind, still,
agnosticism is a belief _about_ God, `about' in this sense meaning `involving,'
or `concerning.'  But since that seems to be quite a bit off the wavelength
of the majority of people in here, I'll refrain from referring to agnosticism
as a religion henceforth."
-- 
dgreen@jarthur.claremont.edu		        	   David "Mishael" Green
		    Have you scritched your local Furry today? 
************************Who ordered the muon? -- I. I. Rabi*********************
  I have not been appointed Judge, Jury, or Executioner by God.  Just witness.
From: eesshlgb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (S H L G Bisson)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Cyber
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:57:03 GMT
Organization: School of Electrical Engineering, University of Bath, UK

In the referenced article, /G=Rhodri/S=James/O=SJ-Research/ADMD=INTERSPAN/C=GB/@mhs-relay.ac.uk writes:
>
>"Aha!  More fodder for the Master Booknamer (well, journeyman if you must
>know...).  Madelaine L'Engle's "A Wrinkle in Time", the first book of a
>trilogy with "A Swiftly Tilting Planet" and "A Wind in the Door".  It is,
>indeed, a classic.

Ignatz peers over at Windsinger.

"Master Booknamer? Sometimes I worry myself, in that I don't seem to able to
forget a book I've read. Just mention a plot, and you'll get back title, author,
publisher, main characters, and a brief review!

"And when I'm near the ole card index and Sf reference books, I can even do
the old associational thing and name the ones I haven't read...

"Annoying trick. Now all I need is the cash to buy a notebook PC, and I'll
set up a full database that I can take about with me... It'll come in useful
in Hay-on-Wye, as I search for those elusive books on the wants list..."

A sheepish grin.

"Er, Space Cadet, your UK e-mail address bounces at me. I've e-mailed your
postmaster, so I'll just have to hope he can sort it out..."

---=-
Ignatz/Simon...it's a strange world out there, but I'm making it stranger....
-=---
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: The Difference Injure..
Date: 15 Nov 1992 22:02:14 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
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NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <4f1fJb_00awNE3uJQt@andrew.cmu.edu>, Mark Beirne Lively <ml5a+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
=Excerpts from netnews.alt.callahans: 15-Nov-92 Re: The Difference
=Injure.. Speaker-to-Minerals@SOL1 (398)
=
=> > If I were taller and stronger then they wouldn't do that."
=
=> I suspect you're wrong in that claim.
=
=Thats why some of us had those sorts of problems.

Perhaps.  But I can tell you from experience that unless you're willing to
respond to words you don't like with physical violence, being large and strong
doesn't prevent the behavior in question.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Subject: Re: Science and god:  Are they incompatible?  If so, why?
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:55:09 GMT

In article <1ebio5INNol2@gap.caltech.edu> lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
>In article <RANDOLPH.92Nov16211607@cognito.ebay.Sun.COM>, randolph@cognito.ebay.Sun.COM (Randolph Fritz) writes:
>>Scientists as a group reject as
>>erroneous data which contradicts current paradigms--there has to be a
>>new hypothesis before they are willing to change.
>
>Oh?  Please explain the acceptance of the Michelson-Morley experiment.  Please
>explain why scientists didn't claim that the absence of the untraviolet
>catastrophe wasn't simply experimental error.
>
>When you get enough data that doesn't fit current theories, the theories
>change.  Not the other way around.  Irreproducible anomalies, of course, aren't
>going to drive any rapid change in models.

  Okay. How do either of you feel about the possibility that Red Shift is not
always an indicator of distance... A certain person's 'peculiar galaxies...'
I can't remember his name off-hand. He wound up going to Europe as he couldn't
get telelscope time here in the US.
   Jim.

-- 
 Jim Pierce Bach. of Sci. in Applied Computer Science USM - Gulf Park Campus 
             jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu  Disclaimer: Standard.