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From: x98943@phillip.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: RPRINTER Prob with Novell 3.11
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:52:57 GMT
Organization: Phillip Institute of Tech, Melbourne

In article <92098.113407KRS100S@ODUVM.BITNET>, KRS100S@ODUVM.BITNET writes:
> 
> We are experiencing a problem in Novell 3.11 regarding RPRINTER on
> a workstation servicing a network printer.  Intermittenly, print jobs
> hang up in the print queue requiring a reboot of the workstation to
> pickup jobs hung up in the print queue.  When a job hangs, PCONSOLE
> shows this network printer as being offline or out of paper which is NOT
> the case.  This printer server services THREE remote printers with all of
> them having this similar problems on occasion.  Is there there a BUG in
> RPRINTER or a LATER version of it out????  Any suggestions would be greatly
> appreciated .....
> 
> Ken
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Yeah, I had the same problem when I upgraded my NW 3.10 Server to NW3.11
some time ago.  After some experimenting, I discovered that this occured
with rprinter serviceing remote SERIAL printers. I don't know if this is
case with your problem.

The soloution I found was to use RPRINTER V1.10 on the workstation instead
of V1.21 all worked fine after that.
 
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From: bob@comlab.gatech.edu (Bob Baggerman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: TCP/IP to replace IPX/SPX ?
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:51:17 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article keith@novell.com (Keith Brown) writes:
>In article jbreeden@netcom.com (John Breeden) writes:
>>If Lan Man has demonstrated anything... it's demonstrated that OEMs LOVE 
>>network protocols that ride ONTOP of their favorite transports more that IN 
>>their favorite transports ..... could be you guys are just picking up on that.
>
>Nah. If LAN Man has demonstrated anything its how to make the best job of
>embarrasing Microsoft and making their marketing staff look like complete
>fools.

I gather then that you agree that Lan Man's transport independence is a
compelling technical approach and that Lan Man's biggest problem is simply
Microsoft's inability to properly market it?  Hopefully I'm not putting
words in your mouth.  8-)  I think Novell and MS both make real strong
products.  And I agree that probably many of those who say they need a
different native protocol just *think* they need a different native
protocol.  But if you truly need to be able to pick and choose which
protocols are best for your particular situation it sure is nice having
the LAN product (like Lan Man) independent of the LAN protocol.

Bob



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: ccewch@solomon.technet.sg (Wong Chee Heng)
Subject: Acceptable error rate for Ethernet, Token ring
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 03:28:49 GMT


I would like to from experience network adminstrator of these LANs if you
know what are the acceptable error rate for fragments, Bad CRC, broadcast,
etc. so that I can tell if the network is in trouble and how bad and what 
effects will that bring to a normal end user.
From: diego@eng.fiu.edu (Diego C. Alonso)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: To cache or not to cache ...
Date: 16 Apr 92 14:04:47 GMT
Reply-To: diego@eng.fiu.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.novell
Organization: FIU College of Engineering

Is it beneficial to use a caching controller when using
Novell 2.2 or 3.11?  I currently have a controller that
has 1 MEG of cache and it can be upgraded to 4 MEGS.
Should I increase my controller cache, disable the 
existing cache, or leave as is?  What would produce
the best performance?  The controller in question is
an EISA ESDI controller from DTC if that is pertinent
to the situation. Please email and I will summarize.
Thanks.

Diego C. Alonso
diego@eng.fiu.edu

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From: hamish@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Modem on Novell Network 
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:39:42 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Apr14.190525.707@csun.edu>, vfoao07h@VAX.CSUN.EDU (George Mansoor) writes:
> In article <1992Apr13.205619.7054@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>, ejhupper@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Eric Huppertz) writes:
>>In article <582.469.uupcb@grapevine.lrk.ar.us> jim.wenzel@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (Jim Wenzel)  writes:
>>>  [re: Shiva Netmodem] 
>>>  According to the  literature that I have just  received they list both
>>>  Mac and PC  versions. Be happy to fax  a copy if anyone would  care to
>>>  look at it.
>>>
>>Okay, it appears the only solution is to purchase some product that will
>>do the trick.  I was really interested in some way to put an internal modem
>>inside a dedicated 286, and using software such as Fresh's Modem Assist, 
>>make that modem available for anyone, Mac or PC, to attach to. 
>>
>>From the responses I've seen, it looks like I'll have to wait till some
>>enterprising soul decides to write a program to do the trick.
>>
>>-E. 
>>
>>-- 
> That's what Modem Assit from Fresh Technologies is supposed to do (allow to 
> share pooled modems).  Also, NMP^2 from Network Products Corporation does the 
> same as does Lan Modem and Cross Connect from Cross Communications Co.  
> 
> I have been looking at pooled modem or shared modem solutions for my 
> university.  
> 

Another way would be to dedicate a workstation with the modem, and run the
wattcp telnet daemon on it. Then use a comms package that supports the int14
re-director and telnet to the machine with the modem.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: scot@pawnee.ugrad.ee.ufl.edu (Scott Miller)
Subject: System Volume Growth 
Organization: UF EE Department
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 15:12:48 GMT

Our system volume continues to fill up. Are there
certain files that can be deleted(ie accounting file,etc)?
Is there a way to purge the volume of saved deleted files.

Regards,
Scott
From: joel@gacvx2.gac.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: NW3.11 and Printer problem
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:37:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: gacvx2.1992Apr7.083759.666
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter, Minnesota

Greetings:
We're having a problem getting a printer attached to a Netware 3.11 fileserver
to print.  The printer (an HP Deskjet PLUS) is attached to the fileserver's
only Parallel Port. I can print to it from DOS on the server before bringing up
Netware.  It accepts print jobs to LPT1: just fine..... then after bringing up
Netware I've gone through all the actions of creating a PRINT QUEUE, PRINT 
SERVER, defining the Printer, and assigning the Queue to the Printer.  I then 
run the PSERVER.NLM and get the following Error:

	DESCRIPTION
		Printer port requested by printer 0, "printername", is already 
		in use.  Printer not initialized.

The Printserver screen comes up and sure enough - Printer 0 is not accessable.

Novell's SYSTEM MESSAGES manual claims that this error means that another
printer is using the port requested by the specified printer, and suggests I
run PCONSOLE and change the port in the printer's configuration file.  I have
done that numerous times - trying a variety of port options - to no avail....
I would expect that choosing LPT1: when defining the printer is the correct
port choice for a printer hung off the server itself. So, why doesn't it work?

Is there something special that I am missing in the process?  I don't want to
hang the printer directly off the Ethernet in this installation - I just want
to be able to print to the printer attatched to the server.  

Any reasonable suggestion will be tried - any suggestion that fixes this problem
will make me extatic!!

Server:	Gateway 2000 386/25 with 8MB Memory
	1 Internal 80 MB Drive
	1 External 600 MB Drive
	Novell NE2000 Ethernet Card
	1 HP DeskJet PLUS attached to LPT1: port

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: mcollins@novell.com (Marty Collins)
Subject: Re: TCP/IP & Novell
Keywords: TCP IP Netware Frustration
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:41:08 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.190558.7137@eskimo.celestial.com> ntprlr@eskimo.celestial.com (Eric Stenson) writes:
>
>I've been installing/managing Netware 3.11 for multiple servers for over a 
>year now, and I've run up against a doucmentation wall.  The 3.11 product
>ships with TCPIP.NLM.  I've heard from conversations on the net that it's
>possibble for a 3.11 server to route IP packets.  My question is: How?  There
>appears to be no doc's on this NLM (at least none that I can find in any of
>the manuals that shipped).  Is there some special manual out there somewhere
>that tells me how to do this IP routing thing?  What the NLM is supposed to
>do?


TRY LOOKING AT THE TCP TRANSPORT SUPERVISORS GUIDE THAT COMES WITH NETWARE 
3.11.

>
>Any help would be greatly appreciated....
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From: donp@novell.com (don provan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: TCP/IP to replace IPX/SPX ?
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:01:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: novell.1992Apr14.210120.19093
Organization: Novell, Inc., San Jose, California

In article <1992Apr8.163755.1@qis.dofasco.ca> hilbig_t@qis.dofasco.ca writes:
>I think my original point is being missed; I'm looking for improved
>interoperability ammong multiple platforms running multiple operating systems.
>
>It's not the difference between the two mechanisms that's important, it's the
>fact that if you have to support multiple protocols.

Yes, i suppose it's this attitude that i'm trying to explore.  The key
to NetWare is the application protocol, not the transport.  When
people ask for NetWare on TCP/IP, i'm not sure they've considered that
that won't help them talk to their UNIX platforms unless someone
implements NetWare on TCP/IP on the UNIX platform.  And if you're
implementing NetWare on TCP/IP for UNIX, why not just throw in IPX,
which is really a trivial piece compared to the NetWare part.  There
are a number of different products on the market that provide this.

>The end user won't see
>any difference between the two if all he wants to talk to is his Netware
>fileserver.  However, if he wants to also talk to a TCP/IP machine he will
>have to load a second protocol stack.

Redundant protocol stacks.  Yes, i see that.  Of course, the IPX
protocol stack doesn't take up much room (some, though) and
configuring it is trivial in most cases, but still a small additional
burden that's not entirely necessary.  OK.

>TCP/IP is the one common transport between most platforms.  They all
>have their own favourite (proprietary) transport, but at least they
>also support TCP/IP with generally the same functionality.

Just as Novell has done with NetWare with its NFS for NetWare.

>The VAXes, IBM mainframe, Unix boxes etc support
>fully (more or less) TCP/IP to allow applications client and server
>access to each other.  It would be nice if we could do the same with our
>Netware fileservers.  

Ah, i see.  You must not know about the NetWare NFS product that
provides NetWare v3.x with exactly this capability.  If this is all
you need, you can buy this today.
						don provan
						donp@novell.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: barr@tramp.Colorado.EDU (BARR DOUG)
Subject: Ethernet throughput (was Realtime question)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:33:21 GMT

In article <10943@chalmers.se> d8olsth@dtek.chalmers.se (Thomas Olsson) writes:
>jailbait@wombat.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Jailbait) writes:
>
>>2 people respond to a question on Topology Choices. Both say that
>>realistic throughput on an Ethernet network is noticably below 10Mb/s.

Realistic ethernet throughput is somewhere between 2Mb/s and 4Mb/s.
This is below the 10Mb/s due more to packet overhead than collisions.

Technically speaking ethernet broadcasts in 10Mb/s BURSTS, and the 
bandwidth is 10 Megahertz (bits are manchester encoded).

>>One goes on to say that this is due to packet collision on the wire.
>>Question: Does this apply for 10baseT/Ethernet over twisted pair
>>networks, too? 
>>It seems to me that the use of a hub in this topology should minimize
>>that problem.

The 10BaseT hubs (repeaters actually) give you some electrical isolation, but
very little logical isolation (every station still hears every broadcast).
If you select a hub with SNMP management you get good monitoring. The two
biggest reasons to go to 10BaseT are 1). You can use existing or inexpensively
installed phone wiring and 2) Fault isolation and detection is MUCH easier.

>
>>Comments?
>
>As far as I know the 10baseT/Ethernet is still a broadcast network where the
>problem with many workstations sending at the same time in an unorderly fasion
>remains. This should lead to a steep preformance degradation when there is
>heavy traffic and many workstations.

When you have perfomance degradation due to heavy traffic and too many 
workstations, you install a router.

						barr@tramp.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: TCP/IP & Novell
From: overby@cobber.cord.edu (Glen Overby)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 18:59:25 GMT
Organization: Curch of TCP/IP : -)
Keywords: TCP IP Netware Frustration

In article <1992Apr9.190558.7137@eskimo.celestial.com> ntprlr@eskimo.celestial.com (Eric Stenson) writes:
>year now, and I've run up against a doucmentation wall.  The 3.11 product
>ships with TCPIP.NLM.  I've heard from conversations on the net that it's
>possibble for a 3.11 server to route IP packets.  My question is: How?  There
>appears to be no doc's on this NLM (at least none that I can find in any of

"Novell (R) NetWare v3.11 TCP/IP Transport Supervisor's Guide."
Copyright 1991 Novell, Inc.
Manual Revision A
March 25, 1992
Publication No. 100-000945-001

pp. 3-2

 load tcpip [forward = { yes | no } ] [ rip = { yes |no } ] [ TRAP = ip address ]

pp. 3-6

bind ip to boardname
	[ ADDR = ip_address ] [ MASK = netmask ] [ BCAST = broadcast addr ]
	[ GATE = gateway ] [ DEFROUTE = { yes | no } ] [ ARP = { yes | no } ]
	[ COST = # hops ] [ POISON = { yes | no } ]

see-also /etc/{hosts,networks,routes}

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Modem on Novell Netwo
From: jim.wenzel@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (Jim Wenzel) 
Date: 11 Apr 92 22:36:00 GMT
Reply-To: jim.wenzel@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (Jim Wenzel) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The GrapeVine BBS *** N. Little Rock, AR *** (501) 753-8121

TO: All

George Mansoor . The last time  I looked at the Shiva  Netmodem/E it was
                 only  for Macs.  Also, I  recently saw  an ad,  and was
                 pretty  sure that  it I  didn't see  anything about  PC
                 support. Does anyone know if it now does support PC's.
                        . . .


  According to the  literature that I have just  received they list both
  Mac and PC  versions. Be happy to fax  a copy if anyone would  care to
  look at it.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Modem on Novell Network
From: vfoao07h@VAX.CSUN.EDU (George Mansoor)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:16:06 GMT
Reply-To: vfoao07h@VAX.CSUN.EDU
Organization: Cal State Northridge

In article <urwaleck.39@eaeps1.tuwien.ac.at>, urwaleck@eaeps1.tuwien.ac.at (Martin Urwaleck) writes:
>In article <1992Apr07.213146.7825@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> ejhupper@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Eric Huppertz) writes:
>
>>In article <53770@hydra.gatech.EDU> cm9@prism.gatech.EDU (MCKEITHAN,CLIFFORD M.) wants to know how:  
>>>to add a modem to the net so that each person could access it from
>>>their workstation.  What is the best way to do this?
>
>>Well, there's Fresh Technologies' Modem Assist, which as I understand lets
>>you set a modem server--not sure if it has to be dedicated.
>
>>Does anyone know of a way to make a modem server the BOTH Mac and PC's
>>can access?  I know, dream on... :-/
>
>>-E.
>
>
>>-- 
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>>Daily Vidette, Illinois State U.  |  got cold out. The weatherman said 'I don't 
>>ejhupper@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu     |  understand, it was supposed to be 80  
>>(309) 438-8565                    |  today,' and I said 'Oops.'"  -S. Wright 
>
>Did you ever hear of Shive Netmodem/E ? I havent used it as it's hard to get 
>such items in Europe but the information sheets I got mentioned that it is 
>for both Macs and PCs. It's like a modem with an ethernet port instead of e 
>serial port.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>        Martin Urwaleck
>
The last time I looked at the Shiva Netmodem/E it was only for Macs.  Also, I 
recently saw an ad, and was pretty sure that it I didn't see anything about PC 
support.  Does anyone know if it now does support PC's.

Thanks
-----------------------------------
George Mansoor
Cal State Northridge
Business Affairs Systems - BMGT
gmansoor@vax.csun.edu
From: weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Christoph Weber-Fahr [KIT])
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: FTP file server...
Date: 8 Apr 92 10:02:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: rhrk.1992Apr8.100245.20432
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany

cjmarsha@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Charles Marshall) writes:

>Okay, I've been reading the TCP/IP manual and I am still rather 
>confused.  It seems to be running but...

>Two cards are in the file server.  One has IP attached and the other
>has IPX.  

You could route packets from one NIC to the other.

> I would like to be able to telnet

What for ? There have been some discussions on tht topic recently,
but the only telnet-connection to the server, that would make any sense,
was an RCONSOLE interface. This doesn't exist, but I assume you could live 
without :-).

>and/or FTP to the server.  Do I need extra software for this?

Me too! Yes, you need. The only ftp server NLM I have heard of is part of 
Novells Netware NFS, which is _very expensive_ and you must have 
quite desperate needs to spend that money only to get an ftp server.

Regards

Christoph Weber-Fahr

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From: razorbone@uiuc.edu (Mark Notarus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: MS windows and novell...
Date: 11 Apr 92 17:04:36 GMT
Reply-To: razorbone@uiuc.edu (Mark Notarus)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana



 Ack.  Well, we've got ten Gateways486's as part of a novell network...
These ten machines are served by an epson fx850.....

 We are TRYING to use MS windows (as a student site, what the students want...)
and the associated programs, like Word, Excel, etc....

 Except that, for some odd reason, we cannot get anything normal out of the 
printer.  I was working with it for a couple of hours, and the words "hi there"
from teh notebook app printing through the network came out as 15K and about
36 pages of on again, off again ascii scribbles. 
 
Any idea what gives? What to look at? 
  
 
 We were capturing both lpt1 and 2, ti's ranging from none to 100 both in 
and out of windows...

 I'm clueless. Any help here?  Thanks..
 
 
 mark



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From: hdo@ws30-sys4.oce.nl (Eric Dortmans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Netware-NFS slow respons with PCONSOLE
Date: 9 Apr 92 11:56:48 GMT
Organization: OCE Nederland B.V.

I installed Netware NFS V1.2 to print to printers connected to our Sun
stations. Most printers are connected to a Sun on the same network. One 
goes via one gateway (Sun) to another subnetwork.  

Using PCONSOLE, I found out that the response times in PCONSOLE become
 very high (10 seconds or more) if I choose the printer on the subnet. 

Question: how can this be speed up ?

Ruurd van der Meer
rvdm@oce.nl

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From: cmdbyk@pmvax.weeg.uiowa.edu (Karl Boyken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: SCRIPT11.ZIP uploaded to splicer
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:25:00 GMT
Organization: State Health Registry of Iowa
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I've uploaded SCRIPT11.ZIP to splicer (128.171.17.7); it's in
files/novell/util.  SCRIPT11.ZIP is an upgrade of SCRPTUTL.ZIP, a
collection of Netware script utilities.

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