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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Bounced Mail
Date: 10 Oct 1992 20:02:50 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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In a previous article, maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU ("") says:

>>   If you want to get rid of the magazines, Goodwill can always use them.
>
>I don't think we have a local Goodwill Industry.  But we have Salvation
>Army drop boxes.  I wonder whether S.A. could use them.
Around here, it's Amvets that come collecting that sort of stuff - Goodwill
and the Salvation Army usually can't be bothered. [Amvets = disabled
American Veterans, Akio]  

>Speaking of good will, has anybody ever done a study of sign-stealing by
>Republicans vs sign-stealing by Democrats?  Why do I have the feeling that
Around here, nobody wants them.:-)  They steal street signs and stop signs,
but not political signs.
>Righteous, Family-Value-Minded Republicans promote theft?  Could it be that
>the Clinton-Gore sign I struggled with for an hour to put up last week was
>stolen last night?  Like my "Wayne Dowdy for U.S. Senate" sign, which was
>stolen several years ago.  Good, ole family values.  I guess they take the
>children along on sign-stealing expeditions for educational benefits.
Don't blame us conservative types - it's the liberal democrats who have this
thing for stealing stuff.<combative grin>  It was more likely to be some
Slick Willy supporter out hunting for a souvenir.  


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Subject:      Clinton and, well, you know
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Is it my imagination or are all the Clinton partisans on this list, er,
compositionally challenged?

-abh
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From:         "(Graham Toal)" <gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL>
Subject:      Re: Brass Butt Plugs
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	(Don't delay if you want the sale price!)

I just can't wait for the first deliberate accidental e-oops...

G
From: AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU (Entropy Warrior)
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Date: 15 Oct 92 14:07:41 GMT
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>I checked our library yesterday, Mka, to see whether I could find the context
>you left out when quoting from the book.
>
>-Natalie

This is getting as bad as the campaign--*I* didn't quote from the book.  I
think it was either Jim Thomas or John Williams.  I merely reacted to the bit
that was put out which, you are quite right, it would now appear, lacked an
important bit of context.  I am always happy to be corrected by more
information- :-)

-K

-Mka
From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
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Date: 14 Oct 92 22:20:10 GMT
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"JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS" writes:
> ps - as an election sidebar, one of our third-world students was just in, and
> her assisgnment was to research Andre Marrou.  Good luck!  In the last 18
> months a subject search turned up a grand total of ONE article, and that in
> National Review!

The November '92 issue of Reason (available at either B. Dalton or
Waldenbooks as well as fine newsstands everywhere) has several pages
on Marrou/Lord.

If you want some more dirt on the unpleasant accusations this
article dismisses you might want to check out an issue of Liberty
(not so easy to find) from several months ago.

--karsten

(Marrou is scheduled to be on CSPAN sometime next week, too)
From: haycock@marley.think.com (Anne Haycock)
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In-reply-to: Anne Burton Harwell's message of Tue, 6 Oct 1992 08:19:37 -0500

abh asks:

   On Mon, 5 Oct 1992, (Anne Haycock) wrote:

   > //anne, who wears a claddagh ring, but now pointing away from the heart//

   Is that like being a Scorpio or something?

Not pahtikalilly...more like being Irish.  (which I'm not, but I was given
a claddagh ring by an Irishman, so that counts)
//anne// 
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From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Clinton's letter and stuff
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> 2.  He said he was going to give me a discount, and
> 3.  "   "   "   "   "    "   "   " 2 free hours as a quid pro quo for
> something I did for his second ex-wife.  Sigh.  When WILL I ever learn?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> John "Your honor, I ask you...are THESE the legs of a murderess?" W.
>
The mind <reels> at what this might have been.  Details, please.
--ggs (always wanting the *complete* story, not just the fraggets...)
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From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
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              10 Oct 1992 12:14:55 EDT from <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>

>>Gosh, Natalie, frugal cheeseheads like me learned long ago to affix
>>the thin bit of soap to the new bar, thereby ultimately using up the
>>bar.  Why, by my reckoning, I've been using bits of the same bar of
>>soap continuously since 1988, because the molecules mingle so.

>Double Gosh, Steve. 1988 was about when I started doing that,
>because my husband died in 1987, and he wasn't about to put
>up with that kind of stingyness!
>>Waste not, want not.
>judith

A contrarian view:  not for want of stinginess, but for lack of
technique, I have never been able to get the leftover sliver of soap
to adhere to or meld with the new bar.  If there is an easy way to
do this, I would appreciate a demonstration at the next List Event.

brad
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From:         "(Joan Boorstein)" <boorstein%umbsky.dnet@NS.UMB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Marked One
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John M W asks:
>ps - dorisann and anyone else who might be able to help:  Whenever I try to
>post privately to EDU, Bitnet, etc., I get one of three messages -
>"No such node defined"
>"error activating transport"
>"error activating image"
>Anyone have any suggestions for the clue-deprived?  :-<
>(Hey, waidda minnit!  That's about what happened when I tried to tube NZ!
> {sound of a GE 40-watter clicking on}
>I wonder if it's due to the same reason?  I DO have more quota on the other
>node...}  No matter - my life is an open pamphlet anyway...

John, these are errors from your mailer saying it doesn't like the address
you gave it -- either the address is wrong or you can't mail to that
address from the particular machine you're on -- in our old bitnet days
not all nodes in the cluster had access to bitnet.  I don't think it
has anything to do with amount of space you have.

--- Joan (boorstein%umbsky.dnet@ns.umb.edu)
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From:         Marty Rosen <crosen@ANDY.BGSU.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Bly
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Greetings,

I wrote: "[Confucius] says, "If a man has not order
within him, he cannot spread order about him (for Natalie's benefit, when he
says man, he means person),"

to which, Natalie rejoined:

>I wonder if Bly knows that Confucius meant "person" by "man."  I don't
>think women are usually invited to beat tom-toms and enter the sweat
>tents in the woods with Bly and his buddies.  But that's right... Bly's
>men are working on their family relationships by weekending in the woods
>while their wives stay home and take care of the children...
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

I'm afraid I can't speak for Bly.  I haven't noticed any allusions to
Confucius in Bly's writing.  I was simply placing one of Bly's ideas in a
relevant context.  Thanks to Natalie, though, for her insightful
comment about "Bly's men" "weekending in the woods" sans their womenfolk.
This is very disturbing.  The very notion that a group of people of one
sex might possibly improve their relationships with folks of the other
gender by retreating and pondering issues in isolation is obviously
absurd, and I simply hadn't seen it.  Doubtless, the women who attend
women-only workshops have fallen into the same error.  I'm sure Rush
Limbaugh will point this out in a future episode.

Marty
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:35:00 PDT
From:         Emily Horning <ECZ5EJH%UCLAMVS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: Bitnet question

> Nothing appears to be stuck at the moment:
>
> :-) netexec uga q ucbcmsa f
> From UGA: Link
> From UGA: Name     Status     Sending Receiving Queued Looping Held
> From UGA: UCBCMSA  connect          0         0      0       0    0
>
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Thanks Natalie and Dan and Evelyn! Our system has been going down more often
than I'd like. Now I'll know what to do when it happens again.

Emily <ecz5ejh@mvs.oac.ucla.edu>
From: haycock@marley.think.com (Anne Haycock)
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In-reply-to: Gilbert Smith's message of Wed, 7 Oct 1992 11:47:00 EDT

Pop conditions:
   > //anne "smith"//

   //annie//!!!  Where have you been?  Have looked for you for years,
   ads in the Times, the Voice, the Enquirer, but to no <avail>....
   Bring me certification from your doctor that you are still
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   as <innocent> as you were the day you walked out on your mother
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   and me and your loans are <history>.
   --Dad S.
   p.s.:  the child in question keeps talking about when he is
   gainfully employed on a regular basis....

Besides <innocent>, I can bring you proof that I'm gainfully employed on a
regular basis...

xxoo,

//annie, long-lost dotter yew'v mist terubly//
From: PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (Judith E. Schrier)
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Date: 16 Oct 92 21:09:27 GMT
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>> > > I was grown before I knew that nice people *could* be Republicans.
>> > >ndh
>> > They *can*???

>Honesty is the best policy, even if it is going to cause me to lose
>friends.  Yes, you know at least one, moi.  However, perhaps I'm not
>considered "nice."  And while I consider myself a Republican, I remain
>open-minded (no comments about the holes in my head) and often vote for
>the person rather than the party.

My Papa was a doctrinaire Demmecrat. He would have said something
like: Doris is a wonderful woman, therefore she must be a Democrat;
just because she *votes* Republican doesn't mean anything.

love, judith
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: surplus cadets
Date: 8 Oct 1992 20:19:16 GMT
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In a previous article, "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 " (815) says:

>> Although I am an avowed liberal and am generally opposed to
>> regimented thought ...
>
>The exception is, of course, repeating liberal cliches.
>
>What's your next move?
>
Uhmm - Queen to pawn four?

To Canada?

Or were you referring to another kind of move?<innocent face learned from
generations of cats>

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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: LATER
Date: 14 Oct 1992 20:28:04 GMT
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In a previous article, maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU ("") says:

>> I don't give a crap if you have a Phd. I have an MBA and alot
>> more business sense. BOTTOM LINE GRAHAM: How much did you make last year?
>
>Hark.  This time we have a Republican in our midst who blurts out his
>Republican mentality openly.  :-)

More like an Independant 80s leftover.  The immature ones tend to spout stuff
like this.  MBAs were an 80s fad degree, and this one hasn't gotten the 
picture yet. :-)  I'm a Republican, do I sound that bad?:)  
>
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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Clinton's letter and stuff
Date: 14 Oct 1992 04:25:19 GMT
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In a previous article, ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU (Dan Lester) says:

>On Tue, 13 Oct 1992 03:01:09 GMT Ruth M. Hanschka said:
>>Like I said, I knew I'd regret this.:-)  Is the plug to prevent the intrusion
>>of methane-like waste production byproduct upon what one might call an
>><intimate moment>?
>
>   no.

Well?  Don't "just say 'no'", it doesn't work.:-)  If you know, oh collector
of x-rated librariana, spill!  

This has got to be fairly kinky if even *this* crowd gets coy about discussing
it.....

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>are? They don't seem to be me or any of the dozen or so people I regularly
>exchange private mail with...

OK, time to come clean: I am Marilyn's mother, and a damned tired mother at
that. Marilyn, this is just like when you were a little tyke crawling up
the curtains at the house. Quit acting like such a newbie, ferchrissake.
And wipe your nose. You always were forgetful about that.

-abh
a living testament to the usefulness of birth control
From: TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU (Blue eyes cryin' in the rain)
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Subject: Re: Clinton and, well, you know
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>I can't speak about Clinton on this, but Gore is well known as an advocate
>of NREN; he has spoken on this topic many times, notably at library
>conferences.

	Not quite what I was driving at.  I mean, Ross is an 'advocate' of
	electronic town meetings (tm), but that says nothing about whether he'd
	have the slightest interest in *participating* in the meeting.

	I suppose I'm wondering whether any of these guys would sit down with
	screen and keyboard (or mouse, for you Mac/GUI fans) and start
	playing/working/using.

	Al Gore?  He's a tough read for me.

	Dan Quayle?  He's probably a whiz at 'Jack Nicklaus Golf.'  Or maybe
	Nintendo.

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                    "You're only young once, but you can be immature forever."
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:43:05 EDT
From:         EL406041@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU
Subject:      Re: Moose
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Posted on 9 Oct 1992 at 11:55:38 by (Frank Peters)
I asked:
>: >> Why is it a bad idea to hang up?

Frank answered:
>For a variety of reasons.

Thank you.  I am now convinced.  (The concept of eating CPU time for 3 wks.
was the one that did it.  Jeeze!!!)

Karen
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Date:         Sat, 10 Oct 1992 16:15:00 MED
From:         "(Graham Toal)" <gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL>
Subject:      sign stealing
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Ask the guys at vmi about sign stealing - it's an old army tradition -
there were vast numbers of road signs floating around from one officer's
quarters to another's when I was at artillery training college.  Mostly
ones that they *really* shouldn't have stolen, like 'dangerous bend'.

Of couse, *I* never got involved in that sort of thing.  Worst I ever
did was 'fix' the locks on the WRAC's showers and lead a raiding party
with a camera...  (which wasn't _wholly_ immoral - the camera belonged to
one of the girls in the shower and we let her develop the film...)

Oh, and I guess there was the time with the radio taped to 'transmit'
under someone's bed, but I'm trying to forget that embarrassing incident...

G
(Hey, I was only a kid at the time - probably the same age as the VMI guys -
17 or 18)
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
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rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU (Rashmi) writes:
> An unimpressive trio-- Clinton appears to be the <lesser> of the evils.

Who is the non-evil one?

--karsten

(We get our choice of Manny, Moe and Jack)
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:51:57 EDT
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Mka's toast for Akio
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"Na Twoje trumne, ze stuletniego deba, ktory posadze jutro."

 To your coffin, from a hundred-year-old oak, which I will plant tomorrow.

     An inventive way to wish someone Sto lat!, Michael -- did you
     come up with this or is it a standard Polish expression?
     Shouldn't that be "zasadze"?

     brad
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Date: 13 Oct 92 20:17:00 GMT
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> There is also a surgical technique for men who wish to be "un-circumcised"
>and return to the way nature made them.  The new field of microscopic surgery

What a laughably self-indulgent and unnecessary waste of money.

-abh
From: mgarber@DHVX20.CSUDH.EDU
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Date: 16 Oct 92 12:11:32 GMT
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Happy birthday neal
I hope this makes you feel
Much much better
Its an e-mail letter

CELEBRATING YOUR UNBIRTHDAY

Of course the kind of verse
May make you end up worse...

Still we recognize that your 364 unbirthdays should not be ignored

HAPPY UNBIRTHDAY

Marilyn
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (62)
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On Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:27:00 JST, "Akio Tanaka" <TANAKA@JPNSUT20.BITNET> wrote:
> 16) Brett Coleman Kimberlin (Brad G.)

I don't think this was answered?  Brett Kimberlin was a guy who had
the <straight dope> on the US Veep.  He was locked up on some minor
charge just before the last election to keep him quiet and he's been
locked up ever since - they keep giving him extra time for bad behaviour
(his bad behaviour being that he *insists* on protesting his innocence.
Evil, huh?)

The story has been reported regularly here by Private Eye, which the
new editor of the New Yorker reads, so she decided to make it into a
big splash in the states, which was the first most people heard of
it (unless they read Doonesbury of course - oh wait, they couldn't -
Doonesbury was suppressed that issue, wasn't it?)

G
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Date: 13 Oct 92 23:37:57 GMT
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Sounds like a senthitive guy.

-abh
From: 185422285%VUVAXCOM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (Alec D. Plotkin)
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Subject: New Train possibilities.
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:02:00 GMT
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        PHILADELPHIA (UPI) -- Amtrak plans to introduce within three months a
high-speed train that could dramatically cut travel time along the
Northeast corridor.
        Amtrak officials say a prototype of the X2000 will be tested on runs
between Washington, Philadelphia and New York. If all goes well, the new
train could be available for all Metroliner service between Washington
and Boston by 1996. That trip currently takes 4 1/2 hours.
        ABB Traction Corp. of Sweden, the manufacturer of the X2000, says the
new train can make the trip in less than three hours.
        The high-tech trains won't be able to go full speed until Amtrak
installs new signals and electrifies the entire length of track.
        Trains that can do 180 m.p.h. have been operating for years in
countries like Japan and France. But ABB officials say those can only
run on perfectly straight tracks.
        Amtrak's rails are curved in many places, said Joseph Silien, U.S.
director of business planning for ABB, and the cost to them is estimated
at $1.4 billion.
        Silien said the X2000 can take the curves considerably faster than
Amtrak's Metroliners, which go as fast as 125 m.p.h. on straightaways
but must slow to 10 m.ph. on the most severe curves.
        ABB developed the X2000 for the Swedish State Railway to enable
trains to travel faster on curved tracks, Silien said. He said the
estimated cost of converting Amtrak rails to accomodate the X200 from
Boston to Washington is $80 million.
        The first X2000 is scheduled to arrive in the U.S. next week, Silien
said. It will consist of three passenger cars, a dining car, and a
locomotive on each end so it won't have to turn around.
        Silien said Amtrack will decide late next year whether to replace its
entire fleet of Metroliners with high speed trains, and ABB plans to be
among the bidders.
        ABB would build the trains at its plant in the United States, he
said.
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              WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS" at Oct 14, 92 12:53 pm

> Ah aims ta stay the only wordslinger twixt them two sweet big-city darlin's
> Emily and Anne B, an' that's the way it'll be!  Ah'm a fair man - Ah think
>
> Ragtime Cowboy John

When did Edinburg, TX become a "big-city"?

rashmi