From: phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone)
Newsgroups: ba.politics
Subject: Re: More Child Molestors for Christ
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:48:21 GMT
Organization: Generally in favor of, but mostly random.

In article <105393@bu.edu> kane@buast7.bu.edu (Hot Young Star) writes:
    >Tell us WHY you think homosexuality is inherently sad, sick
    >and self-destructive. Reason demands an answer. So far all
    >you've said is that it's your opinion, like hating lima
    >beans. Opinions don't mean much without an argument.
    >>...
    >Sure. But you're attempting to validate your prejudice
    >against homosexuality by trotting out a supposed analogy. You
    >must argue against it on its own demerits.
    >
    >>You see, this is one of the things that VERY much disturbs
    >>me. It seems most people have no ability to distinguish
    >>between something "they don't like" and "something that
    >>should be banned/made illegal".
    >>
    >One of the most feared questions, which has NOTHING to do
    >with legality or illegality, is "why do I feel the way I do
    >about people who aren't like me?"
    >
    >And it still disturbs me greatly that you are an atheist who
    >is not only a moral absolutist but a rational relativist. It
    >just seems that your whole outlook is conveniently rigged to
    >support your prejudices.

You are missing the whole point -- or perhaps you do see it but feel you
must ignore it.

1. We are "put here" with but one goal -- to seek happiness. All the world's
   religions (Chritian, Moslem, Communisn/Socialism, Eco fascism) that tell
   you otherwise ("ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you
   can do for your country" -- J. "Benito" Kennedy) are full of shit and
   basically are seeking your submission to their needs for their
   aggrandisement.

2. Happiness is TOTALLY subjective.

3. If any one comes along and tries to tell you that being happy "that way"
   isn't rational, well, grab your wallet and run away.


You keep asking me WHY I have the opinions I do. You keep bringing rationality
into it. Why?

A. Guys butt fucking each other is unnatural.
B. We have evolved to sexually couple male/female.
C. The anus is not designed for sexual intercourse.
D. Homosexuality in other species, such as rats, is only observed in
   pathological conditions.
E. And so on ...

There, homosexuality is not rational.

So what? Everything not permitted by the State is forbidden by the State?

That's the great catch. If Ms. Josephine Politically-Correct says "you
can't discriminate against that person because of his skin color, it is
irrational", well, she is making a political statement for a rational
reason. Skin color is NOT a very good way to discriminate.

But if you bring rationality into "it", "it" being the are of pursuit of
happiness, then you have opened Pandora's box.

Homosexuality is not rational. Not biologically, and perhaps not emotionally.

So do "we" now get to "ban" homosexuality because it's not rational?

Or do we say, no way Jose -- it's YOUR right to pursue happiness that way?

Of course, if YOU get the right to be XYZ, then I get the right to have
nothing to do with XYZ.

See the problem?

Probably not - at least not willingly.


And I think that's why Coloradans passed the no special rights for homosexuals
law. They were tired, as I am, of seeing this and that group get new legal
coercive clubs with which to coerce other people.

I am pro-choice on abortion, yet, I truly feel for people that are
anti-abortion that see THEIR tax dollars go to support something that
truly does revolt their entire being.

Why do YOU want a law that would force, say, a Christian landlord that
believes stronlg that homosexuality is a sin to rent to a homosexual?

Because it's not rational you say? Perhaps, but then again, perhaps
homosexuality isn't rational.



Happines is subjective. Rationality can help in the pursuit, but it can
not rule the pursuit. (Consider mountain climbing -- at times, a VERY
dangerous sport. Does it make some people happy? Damn right. Rationaly
though, they shouldn't do it -- too dangerous.)




I don't ask YOU why you are homosexual. I don't ask you why you are "fucking
the wrong sex". I do ask you to let me have the same freedom of choice that you
want. You don't have to explain to me why you fuck what you fuck, and I
don't have to explain to you why I hire what I hire.

Capische?



-- 
I believe Gennifer Flowers.

These opinions are MINE, and you can't have 'em! (But I'll rent 'em cheap ...)