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From: debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Magical reality in Bengali Literature.
Date: 22 Jul 92 01:53:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


 The concept of magical reality in primitive cultures has been an important
component in their literature. One of the foremost proponents of magical
realism, Gabriel Garcia Marquez, comes from the South American cultures - that
are famous for acknowledging mysticsm into their lives. We are all aware of the
magical charactersitics of situations - that can be observed by mortals. In a
very close association with magical reality comes occult science. 

 Occult `science', as has been defined by neo-realists, deals with those forces
in nature that cannot be accounted for by natural laws having deterministic
qualities. Magic is basically a manifestation of these `unexplained' natural 
forces thru' humans. Everybody cannot be a magician, and, I modestly disagree 
with P.C.Sorcar (Jr.) on this. This is because I have personally witnessed the
famous ring and coin `trick' at Indrajal - the abode of magic in Ballygunge,
Calcutta. I must admit that I was not intoxicated, nor, am I telling lies to
advertise my knowledge. I will admit that such a power cannot be perfected by
every human being. However Pravas-da (P.C.S) told us in an informal meeting
that his `trick' is based on hypnotism - an art that he learnt from the great
P.C.Sorcar (Sr.) his father. The qualities of the mind - an interplay between
real and unreal images are also inherent attributes in hypontism. (Mr.Akkiraju
has made an exhaustive study of occult science and IMHO he can best explain the
influence of occult forces in hypnotism.) Thus, magical reality implies a sort
of hypnotic power that can conquer forces within the realm of mortal knowledge.

 In Bengali literature, magical reality has played an enormously important role.
The earliest example that comes to my mind is the short story: `Mantrashakti' by
Pramatha Chaudhuri. Iswar Patni, a sticksman (`lathial') by profession, was a
praja of Chaudhurishahib and was forbidden to practise the martial art because
the opponents believed that he mesmerized tehm - rendering them powerless.This
fantastic short episode written by Pramatha Chaudhuri tells us how Iswar Patni,
after his long abstinence from lathikhela made a surprising entrance into the 
area; as Pramatha records, Iswar won only when he `chanted' the mantra. Thus, 
as Chaudhuri makes his conclusions, this power of mantra `mantrashakti' is 
dormant within every individual. It is simply a matter of correct effort to 
raise this power and put it to correct use.

- deb chatterjee
(a good samaritan)

P.S: Any cross-posting to SCI or SCP is totally un-intentional.
From: ahsana@topaz.ucq.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: 25TH OLYMPICS
Date: 29 Jul 92 12:04:14 AET
Organization: University of Central Queensland, Australia


I WATCHED THE OPENING CEREMONY OF 25TH OLYMPICS ON T.V. FROM AUSTRALIA.

I DID NOT SEE ANY BANGLADESHI GROUPS AT THAT DAY ON THE OPENING CEREMONY.













Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: ahmed-shakil@CS.YALE.EDU (Shakil Waiz Ahmed)
Subject: Re: The Joy
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:22:39 GMT


In article <l7g9gfINN611@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM>, kabir@kabir.Eng.Sun.COM (Ihtisham Kabir) writes:

> The other problem is discipline. Surely, discipline problems plague
> more or less every sports team in every country. But for Bangladesh they
> hurt more than other countries because we are already trying to painfully
> climb a steep hill. A particularly bad example occured during
> the last SAF games when we lost to Pakistan in soccer. (The Bangladesh
> soccer team is considered better than Pakistan's or India's.) Two versions
> of the reason for the loss I heard was that: 1) the athletes became
> very nervous in the international arena; and 2) the coach apparently
> favored some players who played for the local Dhaka team that he
> was also coach for (Brothers?)


It seems that the international exposure of the Bangladeshi soccer
players is improving somewhat.  The Dhaka clubs appear to be rolling in
money these days -- several former CIS players, including a former
national player are now earning their bread in our league.  I was
recently watching a video tape of the last Mohammedans vs. Abhani
match, and was pleasantly surprised at how well the foreign players
are integrated into the teams.  This is important to the Bangladeshi
players because it introduces a novel style of playing into the game,
and the foreign players bring much experience with them.  I think this
will prove to be very valuable to the Bangladeshis and can only help
to improve the quality of the league (look what happened to the
Italian leagues since they allowed foreigners back in during the late
seventies/early eighties).  Above all, it boosts confidence.  Add to
this the experience of the several Bangladeshi players who have
enjoyed stints in the West Bengal league, and one would hope that the
national team should be able to compete well, at least regionally.
Hopefully, all this will pay off, and we will no longer suffer the
embarrassment of a loss to Pakistan in soccer!

-- Shakil Ahmed
=======================================================================
Dept. of Computer Science     INTERNET: ahmed-shakil@cs.yale.edu
P.O. Box 2158, Yale Station   BITNET  : ahmed-shakil@yalecs.bitnet
New Haven, CT 06520-2158      UUCP    : {ucbvax,harvard,...}!yale!ahmed
=======================================================================
From: rais@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Abdur Rais)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: NEWS BRIEF
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:32:08 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Jul20.185537.24105@bcrka451.bnr.ca> hassan@bcrka434.bnr.ca (Abu Hassan) writes:
>
>** BTV will soon start showing CNN everyday from 
>   7.00 in the morning to 1.00 o'clock.

I recently read that there will also be BBC broadcast for 4 (or 5?)
hours everyday.
Abdur
From: samaddar@siemens.com (Sumitro Samaddar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: How to post news?
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:23:56 GMT
Reply-To: samaddar@siemens.com

If you are using "nn" to read news, a ":", then "post", then
name of newsgroup.

Or you can use "nnpost soc.culture.bangladesh" or 
               "Pnews soc.culture.bangladesh"

if you have either of them. Incidentally, "nn" is probably the
best newsreader right now.

Sumitro
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: fahmed@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Famin Ahmed)
Subject: olympics
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 14:54:06 EDT

ahh, zunaid, you know things are really sad when you post a reply to your
own article.... :} so, now we know who it was.... :} and now you know that
they got there...(see my previous article.).  the announcers did say though
that such and such countries weren't supposed to be in the procession, which
included bangladesh, although they did show up .  hmmm, why DID he not show
up? something to ponder on as i'm being eaten up by insects. insects, in the
computer lab??!! must be some sort of computer revenge.....
hasta, :}
Famin
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: fahmed@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Famin Ahmed)
Subject: Re: SCB after a hiatus
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 11:11:30 EDT

welcome back zunaid! hope you had a nice break! just wanted to congratualte
you on the well-written posting...couldn't have said it any better myself,
although i'd been struggling to do just that for weeks!! :} and such big
words too! vacuous! :} even for a creative writing major i had to go to the
dictiuonary for that one..... :} sorry for the typos, still not used to
the vi editor...
hasta,
Famin.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: dipen@heawk1.gsfc.nasa.gov ( Dipen Bhattacharya)
Subject: Our attitude towards homosexuality
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:49:32 GMT

	Recently a Bengali/Bangladeshi friend of mine, who is a
	gay, got married (of course, in the US). To my knowledge
	he could be the first Bangladeshi who went through a
	formal homosexual wedding ceremony--in that way he reserved
	his spot in the social history of Bangladesh or Bengal. This
	friend has been ostracized by many, including many of his
	former friends. I have always been impressed by his life
	spirit and unyielding courage prompting him to take up 
	different projects with lasting social values.

	What is our prevailing attitude towards homosexuality? Given
	that statistically almost 10% of a population can turn out to
	be homosexuals, it would be interesting to know what the 
	readers think about this in context of Bangladesh or the 
	expatriate Bengali community.

	shubhechha, Dipen
From: a0h9342@zeus.tamu.edu (HAQUE, ANISUL)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: Bangladesh in Olympics
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:46:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul30.215452.29417@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>, 
ahaque@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Abul Haque) writes...

>	There are a few tens of events in the olympics; but how come Bangladesh
>	just participated in only three events? I think there are many
>	events that do not require physical strengths; why not Bangladesh
>	participate in those events? 

        Because most of those events are not played in Bangladesh.

>	My suggestion is: Bangladesh Govt. should form a committee to look
>	after the events of the olymics and recommend to the Govt. to
>	establish facilities for those events in which the athlets from
>	have the potential to perform better. Archery, shooting, fencing
>	and many many other events do not require much physical strengths
>	rather it needs special skills to perform. I think we have the
>	potential to win many gold medals in future olympics if the Govt.
>	put more money in the sports and build many facilities not only
>	in the capital city but all major cities of the country and hold
>	periodic competitions in all those events.

        Producing world class sportspersons is a social and cultural process.
        One cannot make them in a factory based on some Govt. decisions. Can 
        we really make better athlets in shooting, fencing or archery just 
        because these sports require less physical strength? I don't think 
        so. How many people are exposed to these games? Even if Govt. sets 
        up a project, how many people will have access to these? These are 
        some alien sports totally unrelated to our infrastructure. Our 
        objective should not be to win gold thru some isolated athlets 
        living in Govt. sponsored ivory towers. We can't afford the luxury. 
        We should win gold only when the general standard of that particular 
        game in our country has reached international level. Otherwise, the 
        isolated incidences of medal winning (provided, we win) wouldn't 
        serve any purpose, except for boosting our egos. So if Govt. has to 
        sponsor, she should go for popular games.

>	Abul L. Haque
>	ahaque@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu

        Regards,

        Anisul Haque
        Texas A & M University
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: ahmed-shakil@CS.YALE.EDU (Shakil Waiz Ahmed)
Subject: Re: Our attitude towards homosexuality
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:09:39 GMT


In article <1992Jul30.192722.10336@udel.edu>, kazi@hercules.cis.udel.edu (Zunaid Kazi) writes:
> 
> >Now the problem is, why should B be hurt?  
> 
> I hope I had made that clear. A is violating a trust that is inherent in
> a marriage. 


There is something I still don't understand about your perspective.
You've clearly stated that you don't believe in adultery because it
violates the trust in a marriage.  What I don't understand is why you
don't feel the same standards apply to homosexuals.  Is it not true
that the vast majority of practicing homosexuals are not married?
What happens to the question of trust in their case?  I know you've
expressed a desire to keep this off the net, but these are issues
and views which I think others may share (both yours and mine), and
the apparent inconsistency is something I am not seeing for the first
time.  I am not questioning your right to your beliefs and values or
anything of that sort -- I am merely trying to understand how you would
go about constructing a consistent set of beliefs and moral values.

-- Shakil
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: fahmed@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Famin Ahmed)
Subject: Re: Bangladesh and the Olympics?
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 14:46:40 EDT

and it's just my luck to have watched the olympics. :} actually, the opening
and closing ceremonies are really the only parts of the olympics that anyone
watches in my house. there were maybe 5 people in the procession. 1 of which
was a woman, and the flag bearer was some guy who's name i seem to have 
forgotten...he came in for swimming. very small procession, but apparantly,
there wasn't even supposed to BE a procession (ie, bangladesh wasn't supposed
to march...)....
hasta, off to watch some more. :}
Famin
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: R0701@vmcms.csuohio.edu
Subject: Re: The Joy
Organization: CSU
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:15:57 GMT

In article <l7augeINNspf@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM>
kabir@kabir.Eng.Sun.COM (Ihtisham Kabir) writes:
 
>
>"The joy of winning must be great, but the joy of participating
>is even greater" - Saidur Rahman Dawn of Bangladesh, upon being
>asked by journalists what it felt like to be last in the 100
 
>meter heats in the LA Olympics.
>
>This appeared in the Palo Alto Times Tribune in 1984. Was this
>guy the fastest runner in Bangladesh? Any more info on him? He
>should have been a diplomat!
>
>
>- Ihtisham Kabir
>
>
For your information, as far as I know, Mr. Saidur Rahman Dawn, the fastest
runner in Bangladesh, died in a car accident a few years back. I think what
he said to the reporter is a fact and there is nothing wrong about that.
Yes! I think he was proud to make in the Olympics.
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+  /__\  | \/ |   /__\  |___|    |    | |       \   |___| +
+ /    \ |    |  /    \ |   \__  |___/  |___   __|  |   | +
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +
HAQUE, CLEVELAND THEKE
ALLAH HAFEZ
From: sarkar@grip.cis.upenn.edu (Nilanjan Sarkar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Debabrata Biswas
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:21:39 GMT
Organization: General Robotics and Active Sensory Perception(GRASP) Lab, 
	      University of Pennsylvania

Hello ,
	Can anyone give me some information about Debabrata Biswas'
English Rabindra Sangeet cassette ? Specifically, has he recorded many
such songs (I am aware of a couple) and if so, is there any such
cassette ? Any pointer will be highly appreciated.

	Is he popular in Bangladesh ? Are records/cassettes from West
Bengal easily available in Bangladesh ? Who is the most popular singer
in BD nowadays ?
	
	Thanks.
From: chandan@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Ikramuddin Ahmed)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: Tuki Taki from B'desh AND CALLING ALL UNIX WHIZZES! HELP!!
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:02:42 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Jul22.112734.19961@newstand.syr.edu> you write:
>Keywords: 
>
>DAMN DAMN DAMN
>firstly, to farhad, thanks for the news! i think. :} keep up the good work,
>but isn't there any good news out there?? i guess the news about the 

I hear the journalists were chastised for having reported the Govt.'s suppor-
ting role in the strike called by the anti-liberation/anti-Mujib aliance of
Jamat-i-IslamI and the Freedom Parties; can anyone throw some more light on
the subject? (The fact about the I.G. is incredible!)


>PART TWO, HELP NEEDED!!
>can somebody tell how to send news to newsgroups without having to do 
>followups (like this one). in fact, this is the only way i know how to reply
>to newsgroups. :{ the "help" doesn't seem to help much..... :{
>this is so frustrating, i'm developing a new respect for all those comp.sci
>majors out there....    

I've had the same problem; poor documentation by the developers of this prog-
ram does not raise MY respect for all those comp.sci (minors); if somebody is 
gonna show us the way, please do it on the net so that all of us can....:)

>Famin.

IA
-- 
     "A witty saying                |     "So what does 
      proves nothing." -- Voltaire  |      it prove?" -- }:-!>
-- 
     "A witty saying                |     "So what does 
      proves nothing." -- Voltaire  |      it prove?" -- }:-!>
From: reddy@mips.com (T.S. Reddy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: NEWS BRIEF
Date: 22 Jul 1992 18:36:01 GMT
Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Sunnyvale, California
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: dish.mips.com

In article <1992Jul22.174223.1978@bcrka451.bnr.ca> hassan@bnr.ca (Abu Hassan) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.213208.6295@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> rais@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Abdur Rais) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul20.185537.24105@bcrka451.bnr.ca> hassan@bcrka434.bnr.ca (Abu Hassan) writes:
>>>
>>>** BTV will soon start showing CNN everyday from 
>>>   7.00 in the morning to 1.00 o'clock.
>>
>>I recently read that there will also be BBC broadcast for 4 (or 5?)
>>hours everyday.
>>Abdur
>
>Yes, I also heard that. But don't know when they are going
>to begin.

     If I'm not mistaken, Star TV operating out of Hong Kong is beaming BBC TV
to the sub-continent. I was told by my parents that they are able to get
6 channels including BBC and MTV in Bangalore (in South India) via a cable 
network laid by some entrepreneur with a central satellite dish. I'm sure 
the footprints of the satellites broadcasting these signals cover Bangladesh 
as well, thus a satellite dish there could pull in these broadcasts as well.
Perhaps this is what Abu Hasan was referring to.

     Most of these developments occured during the past year, I am told (they
certainly hadn't occured when I visited Bangalore 2 years ago). I'm not sure how
it is in BD, but it's certainly made a change for the better in India where
Doordarshan news indulged in blatant Prime Minister worship (The PM said this;
the PM opened this building, the PM ... (you get the picture))
-- 
T.S.Reddy (e-mail: reddy@mips.com)
From: sra@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Gurpreet S. Sra)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: astro turf in india
Date: 28 Jul 92 06:30:42 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia
Originator: sra@latcs2.lat.oz.au


In article <819@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> you write:
>During Olympics opening cermony when India was marching,
>Bob Castner of NBC commented in addition to oyher things
>"... it(India) is such a poor country that it can't afford
>to have an artificial turf surface for training its team ...".
>Is it true that India can't afford to have a turf surface?

I was born in Patiala (Punjab) not the biggest city in India it not
only had one artificial turf but three .
 
>
>Incidentally, Pakistan is being mentioned as World Cricket
>Champions by the same commentator.
TRUE they did win the Cup.
I suppose one out of two isn't all that bad .
>Opinions are welcome on these comments.
>
>---Sreehari.

G.S.SRA
From: natar-n@cs.Buffalo.EDU (Nandakumar Natarajan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Canadian perm res. : authorised to work in the US ?
Keywords: F-1, work permit
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:01:22 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo / CEDAR Research Group
Originator: natar-n@diphda.cs.buffalo.edu



  Hi,
	I am looking for some information regarding permanent residency in
   Canada. For an F-1 student in the United States, what are the regulations
   for working in Canada ? How long does it take to obtain a permanent resident
   status in Canada ?
 
   And once you are a Canadian permanent resident, is it possible to get back
   to US and obtain a work permit/permanent residency ?

   Sorry if information regarding this has been discussed already.

   Please mail responses to :	natar-n@beatrix.eng.buffalo.edu
				natar-n@cs.buffalo.edu

   Thanks for all your responses,

   

-nanda

ph: (716) 832-4510
From: debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Marxists in West Bengal - Practice. # 2.
Keywords: CPI/ CPI(M)/ CPI(M-L).
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:53:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul26.014703.29977@colorado.edu>, 
paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus) writes...
>In article <25JUL199219220167@vax2.concordia.ca> debchat@vax2.concordia.ca 
(DEB CHATTERJEE) writes:
>..... (stuff deleted) .....   
>2] There used to be a guy in calcutta who stood up on a chair,
>   at the entrance to the howrah bridge, claiming that God
>   had to be a woman, because why else would men have nipples ?

 Castigation(s) and innuendos accepted, thank you ! 

 My point: (1) Fire begets fire. Communists are enemies to the society. 

           (2) Nice theories work well in conducive situations - that for
               a long time has been absent in Calcutta.

           (3) The guy u' mention resembled Marx, Stalin - (ha ! ha ! ha !).

           (4) People like u' deviate the actual issue by using nebulous
               arguments.

           (5) I admit that I am a fanatic to the extent that the present
               CPI(M) government must be DE-STABILIZED right now, and, Karl
               Marx had produced a crock of shit in the last century !!!!!

 Probably God (in Hindu sense) could be a woman (goddess Kali) and thus may
 have the female organs you are mentioned ???? (I don't want to get into any
 arguments involving the last part of the statement, O.K ??)

- deb chatterjee
(a good samaritan)
From: rengi@vax2.concordia.ca (RENGARAJAN, SAMPATH)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Availability of Laptop's in India
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:01:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Can anyone advise me if Toshiba (486) Laptop are available in India for
purchase in India (for use in India of course). Since I wanna send it for 
someone  from here, I will consider buying it there if it is available there.
Can you also please quote the source from where it can be purchased in India

Thank you

			Rengi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: peea232@perv.pe.utexas.edu (Vasant Kumar)
Subject: LOOKING FOR SHANKARANAND MISHRA
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Dept. of Petroleum Eng., Univ. of Texas - Austin
Date: 26 Jul 1992 13:19 CDT  

        Hi!
          I am looking for one "Shankaranand Mishra".He was doing PhD
  in Physics/Maths/?? at "RALEIGH" around three years back.If you know
  his whereabouts kindly tell him about me/Send me his address.
  Thanks.

  Vasant                                        4103 Speedway #104
  peea232@perv.pe.utexas.edu                    Austin,TX 78751.
                                                Tel (512)453-8382
From: srini@IREQ-NUM.HYDRO.QC.CA (K.Srinivasan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Subscribing to soc.culture.tamil
Date: 30 Jul 92 06:02:50 GMT
Reply-To: srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca

Anybody who is able to read this newsgroup, yet unable to read
soc.culture.tamil, and interested in reading the latter newsgroup.

(1) First try  g soc.culture.tamil INSIDE your news reading program.

(2) Save any posting (like this one). Then see the first line inside an
editor like 'vi'. The newsreader WILL NOT show that line.

It contains the full routing of this posting. Check with each level of system
administrator starting with your own whether he/she receives s.c.tamil.
postmaster@....., will get him/her.

You will find out where the problem is and probably fix it.

If there is still problem intimate sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara Pandian).

KS.