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From: kudzu@netcom.com (Michael Sierchio)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Need suggestions on french restaurants...
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:34:40 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: True Love, and Home-Grown Tomatoes

Apologies for not following up to the original article...

A good friend used to be a chef at the Brasserie Savoy, which
specializes in "Poissons et Fruits de Mer" -- Fish and Shellfish.

I can still recommend it, though not as highly as when Franc Harriss was
there :-)

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From: nicky@apple.com (Nick Pilch)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Espressso machines - recommendations?
Date: 19 Nov 92 02:44:19 GMT
Followup-To: ba.food
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer

In article <BxxIsy.Du3@well.sf.ca.us>, macleod@well.sf.ca.us (Peter
MacLeod) wrote:

> My experience has been that one should avoid any German espresso machine,
> i.e. Krups, and get a decent Italian one, like Gaggia, Faema, etc. Also,
> ignore anything that Consumer Reports says about espresso machines.
> --Peter

Consumer Reports being like a bible to me, I have to ask why I should
ignore them?

Also, Jens, why would purists balk at your aerator?

Nick Pilch
nicky@apple.com
From: spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Looking for a very nice restaurant (~near Cal)
Date: 17 Nov 1992 00:26:52 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: zion.berkeley.edu

Trudy's looked closed for good last time I went
by there...

Anybody know for certain?

sp
From: roseman@hal.COM (Marc Roseman)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Thai Grocery in San Jose
Keywords: thai
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:38:43 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: HaL Computer Systems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: mocha.hal.com

Are there any stores in North San Jose, Milpitas, or Fremont that
carry ingrediants and spices for thai cooking ?

Specificly, I would like to buy fish sauce, and thai herbal tea.
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: chew@macross.csd.sgi.com (Stephen Chew)
Subject: Re: Looking for a very nice restaurant (~near Cal)
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:17:10 GMT

Well, after CAL beats Stanford :-) you'll need a good
meal.  Cafe Pastoral (which has already been mentioned) has 
a vote from me.  Excellent food.  Chez Panisse is good but
usually impossible to get reservations.

I would also like to add that Trudy's on University is good
"American" food and there's always Skate's on the Bay.  Which
may or may not be quiet.  (probably not)  

If you like Skate's, you may want to try the restaurant
in Jack London Square that used to be Cutter's.  It has the
old chef from Skate's and is a pretty nice place.  I think the
name is Kincaids.  This place will most likely be quiet and 
it has great food.
--
Stephen Chew (chew@csd.sgi.com) "From one engineer to another,
SGI Product Support             trust me laddie, I kin do it!" - Scottie (TNG)
From: bavenell@next.com (Bette Avenell)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Jaliscos returns!
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:12:30 GMT

Remember Jalisco's Mexican Food on Stevens Creek Blvd in San Jose?  They closed  
suddenly and no one knew what had happened to them.  Well they've re-opened!   
They're now at 525 E. Campbell Ave., on the corner of E. Campbell and Foote  
behind Bradley Video.  The food is just as good as before.  Still the best  
tortillas I've ever tasted!

Bette Avenell
bavenell@next.com
From: chguest@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov ( Charles J. Guest )
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: LindaBurgers Special Sauce...
Keywords: burgers, nostalgia, LindaBurgers
Date: 15 Nov 92 21:07:22 GMT
Organization: ... a Republic... if you can keep it.

In article <48qM02th2bKk01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> jjd50@diag.amdahl.com (John Donovan) writes:
=>
=>Does anyone happen to know what went into the sauce for Linda-Burger's(*) 
=>Parisian Burger?  I'm posting this question for a relative who's nostalgic
=>curiosity needs to be satisfied. 

Well you have come to the right place..... you never know what you can
find on the net.  I used to be a supervisor at Linda's for the 4-10
shift.  I have zee zecrets yew vant!

=>Please email responses to me as I don't
=>usually subscribe to this group, If the responses are interesting I'll
=>post a compilation.

Since there are others who are usually interested I decided to p[ost the
message.  I will mail John a note to let him know to look here.

=>
=>		Thanks,
=>			John
=>
=>(*) Linda-Burger's, for those of you that don't know what I'm talking about
=>was a restuarant (? -i suppose it's classification is open to debate) in the 

More of  walk up burger stand..

=>Mnt-View/Sunnyvale area (used to be on El-Camino?).

1898 West El Camino Real on the corner of Esquella.  There is a Photo
Drive up there now.  The basic building remained but a total remodel
makes it impossible to tell what Linda's originally looked like.

=>John Donovan     << ....Standard Disclaimer.... >> jjd50@diag.amdahl.com


Well, I used to work at Linda's Drive In.  It was a nice little mom and
pop run walk up burger stand.  I worked there for almost four years
while in high school. 

A year or so ago, someone else wrote a note to ba.food which I responded
to.  Here is a copy of that note:

From: chguest@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov ( Charles J. Guest )
From: altinbay@netcom.com (John Altinbay)
Subject: Re: All-you-can-eat brunch in Burlingame?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 05:21:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.083448.6673@netcom.com> tenney@netcom.com (Glenn S. Tenney) writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.074510.2224@netcom.com> boulton@netcom.com (David A. Boulton) writes:
>>It is called The Castaways. ...
>>Very pretty location, acceptable food.
>
>They used to have acceptable food.  The last time we were there
>(4-6 months ago) we felt that their quality had dropped a bit.
>But then we had their Eggs Benedict...
>
>SALAMI instead of Canadian Bacon!!!!
>
>That rates about a minus 10 for me.  I got the impression that
>they are now run by a large chain and that the manager was new.
>

Well, then maybe you need a substitute.

Try Borel's off the Hillsdale exit from highway 92.  It's up on the
hills.  Beautiful view of the city (SM more than SF) and the bay.
Nice buffet.

-- 
John Altinbay   -   altinbay@netcom.com
===============================================================
There's a spirit that guides me, a light that shines for me
My life is worth the living, I don't need to see the end.
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: kong@eiger.esd.sgi.com (Marvin Kong)
Subject: Re: Livermore eats?
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:28:28 GMT

> lake@cwjcc.INS.CWRU.Edu (Dr. Robin Lake) writes:
> I'll be spending next week in Livermore (LLNL).  any suggestions for
> restaurants in the area?  Breakfast spots?

I'm sure this is too late to help out the original poster, but I just
saw this, and thought others might be interested.

So, having lived in the Pleasanton/Livermore area for the past 12
years or so, I can say that, while not as good as some other parts
of the Bay Area, the restaurants have improved greatly in recent years.
Some of my favorite places are listed below.  Some have already been
mentioned in earlier postings.  As far as breakfast goes, well,
there's not much to offer -- just your usual coffee shops and such.
However, the Buttercup Pantry (in Pleasanton near the Hopyard exit
off of freeway 580) is the best of the bunch.

California Cuisine:  Wente Brothers Sparkling Wine Cellar.
     (About 10 miles south of Livermore).  This is probably the
     best restaurant in the area (although somewhat on the expensive
     side -- $25 to $50 for a complete dinner). 

Sushi:  Haruo's (in Pleasanton on Santa Rita Road, near the Nob
     Hill store).  The best sushi around!!!  (don't bother with
     the dinners, though).  The sushi chef is a real character,
     so be sure to sit at the bar, and join in the fun.  It's sort
     of a Japanese "Cheers" for the locals (especially on Friday
     nights).

Japanese:  Momiji's (in Pleasanton on Main Street).  The dinners
     here are excellent.

Chinese:  The Great Szechuan (in Livermore on 1st Street).
     Very good chinese food.  Be sure to try the General's
     Chicken.

BBQ: Everette and Jones (in Pleasanton near the Santa Rita exit
     off of freeway 580).  Great ribs!!!  John Madden, who lives
     in BlackHawk, comes here often (when he's not on the road
     doing TV).

Italian:  Bruno's (in Pleasanton on Main Street).  There's also
     a picture of John Madden here, saying Bruno's is his favorite
     restaurant -- but I'm a bit skeptical since his TV personality
     makes me think he's more of a "meat 'n potatos" kind 'o guy.
     The food at Bruno's is *very* good, though.  Cassanova's
     (in Pleasanton on St. John Road) is also very good.

Mexican:  Chevy's (in Pleasanton near the Hopyard exit off of
     freeway 580).  Well ... just your usual "Chevy's" -- but
     it's still better than most of the local Mexican joints.

Continental:  The Pleasanton Hotel (on Main Street).  Good place
     for a nice, elegant, dinner.


-- Marvin Kong
   Silicon Graphics (kong@sgi.com)
From: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Chez TJ: any good ?
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:30:49 GMT
Reply-To: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)
Distribution: ba

jms@wzlr.uucp (Jack Stephens) writes:

>Someone suggested Chez TJ in Mountain View.  I've been by
>but never in.  Any strong feelings about the place ?

My spouse took me to Chez TJ's for my birthday last year.  It's small
and intimate if you feel that intimacy consists of sitting in a small
area with 3-4 couples or groups you don't know.  The service and food
were both very good to excellent, the decor was simple and attractive.

I suppose my major complaint is that the rooms are small (it's a
converted house), and you do sit in them with other folks, and the
place is fairly quiet.  I wouldn't feel very free to discuss anything
I considered confidential, since there is little difficulty in
overhearing conversations.  This is disappointing, since the
environment is such that you may be inspired to discuss intimate
details of your life, then suddenly be reminded that there are people
sitting just 4 feet away.  Other "fine" romantic-type resturants I've
been to have provided better privacy, and I prefer them.  The problem
is, I haven't been to any I've consistently liked in "the valley".
Perhaps other areas of the resturant are better, but we sat in the
'front', and although watching the traffic was lovely, it wasn't like
watching a sunset up at St. Orres (in Gualala, north of Sea Ranch on
the coast), or River's End (north of Bodega Bay, in Jenner, also on
the coast).

So, if you're out with a friend, and don't plan on discussing their
recent bout with impotancy, or the corporate merger you're
spearheading, or whose spouse you've been seeing after hours, then as
a resturant with good food and service, it's pretty nice.  It cost us
around $150 for two, with only a glass or two of wine when we were
last there.

--
Ken Wallich
wallich@ncd.com  
ken@wallich.com
From: maslak@unix.SRI.COM (Valerie Maslak)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: French Bakery in South Bay
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:33:58 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, California


Have you tried Douce France in the Palo Alto Town and Country
Village? I haven't been there in awhile, but it was started by two
young men from France, and the croissants are VERY good.
There's also a fancy pastry bakery next door, but I like Douce
France's croissants.

Of course, I don't know what the croissants in Indiana were
like...

To get to Douce France, enter T&C off Embarcadero opposite Palo Alto
High School, and go straight back way from Embarcadero. Douce France
is just off to your left at the T in the parking lot where this
"road" dead-ends.

What haven't you liked about other croissants you've found?

Valerie Maslak
From: viviana@igor.tamri.com (Vivian Aldridge)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: A few restaurants in SO. SF (summary)
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:30:26 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA

The following is a summary of a few resturants in South San
Francisco.
--vivian
*************************************************************


From igor!sgi!decwrl!pa.dec.com!src.dec.com!silk Wed Aug 19 09:27:38 PDT 1992

Another interesting and fun place in South City is 
Barrio Fiesta,  a smallish Filipino restaurant 
near the intersection of Westborough Road and El Camino.

Lovely service (if it's your birthday, you'll be serenaded
quite professionally), interesting menu, very good food (I give
it about a ** or *** on Patricia Unterman's scale), reasonably
priced (we paid around $22 for two), unusual presentation.  Not
too many vegetarian dishes, mostly meat and fish oriented.  
A find.

Unlike other Filipino restaurants, the food here is not heavy. 


From igor!sgi!decwrl!csus.edu!netcom.com!greg Wed Aug 19 09:29:15 PDT 1992

In article <1992Aug18.195149.8844@leland.Stanford.EDU> jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey) writes:
>
>	We're looking for some place that's casual, relatively inexpensive,
>and perhaps ethnic in some way shape, or form--   (Italian, Middle-eastern,
>Mexican, Vietnamese, whatever).

You must, you simply must, go to Ristorante Buon Gusto, which is on 
Grand Avenue, in the old down-town area, just a block up from Airport
Blvd. This is a truly GREAT Italian Bistro, run by an old-world 
gentleman. Great prices, great service, phenomenal pasta and meat
dishes.
 
Greg


From igor!sgi!mips!darwin.sura.net!europa.asd.contel.com!uunet!stanford.edu!unixhub!slacvm!tony Wed Aug 19 09:29:41 PDT 1992

The Basque Cultural Center, 599 Railroad Ave. Call them at 583-8091 for
directions.  Fine, unpretentious French-style food, not too expensive.


-----------------------------------
Tony Roder, speaking his mind .....
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: rat@erg.sri.com (Ray Trent)
Subject: Re: Espressso machines - recommendations?
Reply-To: rat@erg.sri.com (Ray Trent)
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 21:30:37 GMT

In the referenced article, nicky@apple.com (Nick Pilch) writes:
>> ignore anything that Consumer Reports says about espresso machines.
>> --Peter
>
>Consumer Reports being like a bible to me, I have to ask why I should
>ignore them?

The rule with CR is: if aesthetic considerations of any sort are the
main or only consideration, CR will get it backwards. Of course, this
can still be useful...they're pretty consistent.

CR is great if you want something where the definition of good is a
product that is reliable, practical, inexpensive, functional and
(usually) efficient.

Espresso machines fall into the weird catagory of things where you
really want the most practical, efficient, inexpensive, functionally
reliable pump machine you can find...but if the aesthetics aren't
there, it's a complete total massive lose-lose-lose-fail-fail-fail
waste of a fair amount of money.  CR is almost *bound* to get it
wrong, no matter how you interpret their reviews. Stereo equipment is
another example (except for CD players).

TVs, on the other hand, have no aesthetics :-). CR can be trusted with
them. 
-- 
"When you're down, it's a long way up
 When you're up, it's a long way down
 It's all the same thing
 And it's no new tale to tell"                      ../ray\..
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Monday, 23 Nov 1992 09:19:38 PST
From: <BROSE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Handcrafted Holiday Jars

Handcrafted and painted holiday jars filled with special
treats.

Sizes in small, medium, large jars filled with beef jerkey,
pistachios, mints, sticks.  Prices depend on size (for
example, small beef jerkey $8.00, small pistachios $6.50,
small mints and sticks $5.50).

Makes wonderful gifts for the holidays or any occasion.

Call today to make your special order.  Call (408) 279-1323.

You may E-mail me if you have questions as I am helping my
brother with this great idea for the holidays.

Thanks!
From: chew@macross.csd.sgi.com (Stephen Chew)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Need suggestions on french restaurants...
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:22:14 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <BxvGEG.3xn@inews.Intel.COM>, jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece) writes:
|> In article <lgh9juINNcnb@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, assana@polkadot.Eng.Sun.COM (assana) writes:
|> 
|> > 1) La Folie -- 2316 Polk, SF
|> > 2) Fleur De Lys -- 777 Sutter, SF
|> > 3) Ernie's -- 847 Montgomery, SF
|> 
|> Ernie's has been ripped for decades by restaurant critics and some friends
|> for a combination of opulent Victorian decor, fabulously attentive service,
|> mediocre food, and high prices.  

Well that's the Ernie's review.  I've never been there but have heard similar
reviews.  

I just went to Fleur De Lys for the first time last week.  It was incredible.
The service was great and the atmosphere cozy. (It's not opulent, just warm)

I really enjoyed the food.  I'm not a french food fan but this didn't seem
like your normal french food.  (I didn't see escargot or rabbit on the menu)

We started with their apetizer plate that had some really tasty stuff.  Nothing
memorable but above average.  I had the squab and my friend had the lamb.  
Both were outstanding.  Very Very Tender and quite flavorful.  Not heavy in 
sauces.  (unlike alot of French food)  For dessert, we had a sampler plate
prepared by the chef because our dinner was a special occasion.  The rasberry
souffle is heavenly.  It's not a classic souffle, it's more like a souffle
sandwich but very good.

If dinner is aspecial occasion, let them know and they will make it special.
Maurice was the maitre d' and he made sure we had a rose on our table and 
the special dessert tray.

All I need now is an Italian restaurant like this :-)
--
Stephen Chew (chew@csd.sgi.com) "From one engineer to another,
SGI Product Support             trust me laddie, I kin do it!" - Scottie (TNG)
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: tenney@netcom.com (Glenn S. Tenney)
Subject: Re: All-you-can-eat brunch in Burlingame?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:34:48 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.074510.2224@netcom.com> boulton@netcom.com (David A. Boulton) writes:
>It is called The Castaways. ...
>Very pretty location, acceptable food.

They used to have acceptable food.  The last time we were there
(4-6 months ago) we felt that their quality had dropped a bit.
But then we had their Eggs Benedict...

SALAMI instead of Canadian Bacon!!!!

That rates about a minus 10 for me.  I got the impression that
they are now run by a large chain and that the manager was new.

Has anybody been there recently to say how good it is?  Oh.  They
raise their prices for "special days" like Mothers' day, although
they don't change anything except to have less space allocated for
food.

-- 
Glenn Tenney
voice: (415) 574-3420      fax: (415) 574-0546
tenney@netcom.com          Ham radio: AA6ER
From: jojo@leland.Stanford.EDU (Joanne Spetz)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: looking for Jamaican/Caribbean grocery
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:03:05 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA

Howard Lee writes:

>	Hi.  I'm looking for a Jamaican/Caribbean grocery store near 
>	Stanford.  Anywhere between San Mateo and Sunnyvale is fine.  
>	E-mail me if you know one.

And Francis Muir responds:

>I'd check with the folk at Jose's Cuban place on El Camino near
>California.

I'd also check with the Mango Cafe on University in Palo Alto.  I think
they sell some of the hot sauces they import (e.g. "Hell-Hot").

Good Luck

Jo


-- 
Joanne Spetz				jojo@leland.stanford.edu	
"I had a lot of good intentions; 
  sit around for fifty years and then collect a pension...
  Started seeing the road to hell and just where it starts"  -Indigo Girls
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: narayan@aravali.everest.tandem.com (Pankaj Narayan)
Subject: Re: French Bakery in South Bay 
Reply-To: narayan@aravali.everest.tandem.com (Pankaj Narayan)
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Cupertino CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:54:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.042516.22926@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, tomokom@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Tomoko Matsumoto) writes:
|
|> any recommendation on good french bakeries?
|
Try La Patisserie and (i think) its sister shop La Boulangerie in Cupertino.
I've ordered cakes and so on, and bought pastries from the
patisserie, but have never felt rich enough to spend five bucks on bread.

The cakes are good, and the pastries delicious. Extrapolating may be a 
little wild, but its worth a shot.

Its in the shopping thing at the corner of Wolfe and Stevens Creek.
Go till the Sears Auto Shop and then turn left at whatever light that
is......
-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pankaj Narayan			Email: narayan_pankaj@tandem.com
Tandem Computers
From: vlad@mas1.UUCP (Vladimir Preysman)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Espressso machines - recommendations?
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:09:16 GMT
Reply-To: vlad@mas1.UUCP (Vladimir Preysman)
Organization: EnaTec Software Systems - Cupertino, CA

Bon Appetite rated esspresso machines long time ago and the best one
was Livetta (or Olympia) made in Switzerland. It is expensive $650+.

I have used one for the last ten years and have never seen a better 
home machine. Livetta is sold exclusively by Pasquini Imports based 
in San Rafael (Ca) or Los Angeles.  Olympia is sold by Zabars store
in New York City (Broadway and 82-nd) they have a mail order department.

Both are marketing names for the same product.

You should also know that a good machine is only a part of the deal -
you need a very good grinder or any machine is wasted. 

Consumer Reports rated low end machines only - these machines will
produce O.K. espresso, but will not come anywhere close to what one 
can get in a bar in Italy, Spain or few places in the U.S..

Good luck,

Vladimir
  
408-864-6762
From: sima@mendel.berkeley.edu ( Sima Misra)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: caterer recommendations wanted
Date: 17 Nov 1992 06:51:26 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: mendel.berkeley.edu

Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: caterer recommendations wanted
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: ba
Organization: 
Keywords: 

We are planning to get married in Big Basin (north of Santa Cruz)
next May and would like any recommendations for caterers or reception
sites in the Santa Cruz area.  The reception will be for 40-50 people,
either a sit-down dinner or afternoon hors d'oeuvres, rather informal.
Any suggestions can be sent to my e-mail address below, and will be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Sima Misra
sima@mendel.berkeley.edu


Newsgroups: ba.food
From: Jens Alfke <jens_alfke@gateway.qm.apple.com>
Subject: Re: Espressso machines - recommendations?
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In article <james.721959831@wrs.com> James Moore, james@wrs.com writes:
>Are there paricular features to look for?

A "perfect froth" attachment is handy. It's an aerator gadget that fits
over the steam nozzle. Purists may balk, but it makes it a lot easier to
get a nice head of foam on the steamed milk. (So does using a metal milk
container and chilling it beforehand, btw.)
My teeny little Krups came with one, and I think they're available
separately too.

--Jens Alfke
  Apple Computer