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From: williams@hp800.lasalle.edu (Billy L. Williams Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: [Q]: How usable is X under Linux for you?
Date: 20 Nov 92 06:13:41 GMT
Organization: La Salle University, Philadelphia, PA

Hello, fellow Linux users!

I am in the process of considering using X as my environment of
choice, but before I take the plunge and buy my video card, monitor,
and memory (!) necessary to make things usable, I'd like to get some
feedback about how sweet X can be on a 386-40.

Specifically,

   - how responsive is X with 4-8 megs ram on a 386-40 (or
     thereabouts)?  That is, how does it feel in terms of speed in
     comparison to, say, X on a SparcStation II, a Macintosh, or Windows
     with a similar configuration?  (no flames for the comparisons, please!)
 
   - what kind of video card do you have, and how high a resolution
     can you achieve with it?  Does the acceleration (if any) bring
     things up to break-neck speed?

   - what advice would you give experienced unix users just beginning
     with X?

I do realize that the answers to these questions depend greatly on the
configuration of the machine, but I think some general feedback on
this subject will be useful to many of us considering X.  Your
responses are GREATLY appreciated, so please respond if you think it
will help other Linux users.

I will summarize any e-mail I get and post to the net (in timely fashion,
too, I hope!).  

Sincerely,

Billy L. Williams, Jr.
williams@lasalle.edu

PS: ObPraise: Many thanks to all those (especially Linus) who helped to
              bring this wonderful system to my machine.  It's incredible.

-- 
Billy L. Williams, Jr.
williams@lasalle.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: chchen@stat (Ching-Hsiang Chen)
Subject: nice font in Xterm?
Organization: Florida State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 10:37:21 GMT

I am using X windows on my normal VGA monitor and the resolution is 
680x510. I now use 7x14 fixed font in the Xterm with forground green and
background black. I've tried several other fonts but haven't find a 
nice one for my eyes. Can anyone suggest a nice font to be used in this
resolution? Thanks in advance.

Steve Chen         chchen@stat.fsu.edu
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: anyone wants pdksh?
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:52:28 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats

In article <1992Nov19.000134.4950@serval.net.wsu.edu> hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu) writes:
>I have made pdksh 4.7 for sun. If anyone wants it, I can try to
>make it for LInux.

Do be aware that PD ksh is less sh compatible than bash.  To see test results,
run the test suite for GNU egrep with PD ksh as your shell.  The suite has
119 tests.  It will fail 60 tests with PD ksh and passes all with bash.

-- 

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
From: 890025d@dragon.acadiau.ca (Andy DeWolfe)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: ATI bouse mouse won't work
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:08:39 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

I have an ATI Vantage and a bus mouse.  When I boot Linux
(SLS0.98p1) it recognizes the bus mouse.  However when I run
mouse Microsoft /dev/mouse   as soon as I move the mouse, I
get the following message:
general protection: 0000
EIP: 0008:00000D806
EFLAGS: 00010086
fs: 0017
base: 00000000 linit: C0000000
PID: 26	PROCESS nr:7
8b 5b 04 8b 16 85 d2 74 37 83
Segmnentation fault

I have tried this with /dev/mouse being c 10 3, c 10 2, and c 10 0.
Nothing works.  The mouse works fine under Windows/DOS/OS2.
Can anybody please help as this is getting very frustrating.
-Andy

Oh yeah, a friend of mine has the same set up and his works great!


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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: schwarzo@kirk.fmi.uni-passau.de (Oliver Schwarz)
Subject: HELP: Problem with LILO
Keywords: LILO
Organization: University of Passau, Germany
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:37:17 GMT

Hello all,

I have a problem with the LILO - bootloader. I wanted to boot MSDOS from
/dev/hda1 and Linux from /dev/sda1 . My kernel-image is /Image resp. /Image.old
So I tried the install-script from Section 3.4 "Two disks, Linux on the second
disk, the first disk has an extended partition":

/etc/lilo/lilo -b /dev/hda2 -c -v -v -v -v -i /etc/lilo/boot.b $* \
     /linux \
     /linux.backup \
     msdos=/etc/lilo/chain.b+/dev/hda1@/dev/hda

I got the following screen output:

LILO version 0.6
Written 1992 by Werner Almesberger

Reading boot sector from /dev/hda2
Merging with /etc/lilo/boot.b
Sorry, don't know how to handle device 0x0802

Then I tried EVERY combination of parameters and I tried to install it
on /dev/hda like in Section 3.5 . I also tried the following install-script:

/etc/lilo/lilo -b /dev/hda2 -c -v -v -v -v -i /etc/lilo/boot.b $* \
        linux=/Image \
        old-linux=/Image.old \
        msdos=/etc/lilo/chain.b+/dev/hda1@/dev/hda

Then I tried it without the old-linux-part. All with the same effect.

It is impossible that my LILO-version is corrupted because I also
tried a copy of the whole /etc/lilo directory from a friend who has
successfully installed LILO with one HD.

Can anybody help me with this problem?

Oliver.    email: schwarzo@kirk.fmi.uni-passau.de


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ttsnoddy@nyx.cs.du.edu (Todd Snoddy)
Subject: New to Linux/Unix
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix (sponsored by U. of Denver Math/CS dept.)
Disclaimer1: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University of
Disclaimer2: Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
Disclaimer3: control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 22:48:46 GMT

I am very familiar with MSDOS, but quite new to Unix.  I have a problem
that I need help with.  Maybe I'm just doing something wrong.

I just installed Linux 0.98 onto floppies using the rawrite utility.  On
booting, the system recognizes my floppies, although it does have a message
saying unexpected interrupt, or something like that.  After I login as
root, I am unable to access the data off of my second drive, which I 
understand is /dev/fd1??  I tried to use mount, mtools, fdformat and mkfs,
and none of them seem to work properly for me.  I was able to use the tar
command to read mtools from a rawritten disk off of that drive, but other
than that, I can't seem to access anyting on that drive.  The same goes for
my hard drive.

Is there some configuration file that I don't have set correctly to
recognize my other drive, or is it something that I'm overlooking?

After installing the mtools and creating the appropriate file in my /etc
directory, I set up a link for mdir like so: ln -s mtools mdir.  When I try
to access the mdir command, it returns "cannot execute binary file".  Is
this a file attribute problem?  I am totally confused.

Thanks for any help.  Please reply via Email to tsnoddy@nyx.cs.du.edu, or
tsnoddy@world.std.com.

Todd T. Snoddy
From: wpwood@blair.austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Loading Linux
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:46:03 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: /home/wpwood/.organization
Mailto: billw@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com


I recently downloaded the boot and root images from tsx-11, rawrote them
onto high-density floppies and tried to boot Linux on my PC.  The PC
boots, I get a 'Loading...' message, and then the screen goes blank.  If
I wait till the disk stops rotating and hit <enter>, the drive will 
start moving again, as if there was a prompt on the screen, but the 
graphics card is not displaying anything.
	The system I am using is a 386DX-40 from Quantex Microsystems.
The CPU is the AMD 40MHz 386DX chip.  The only non-standard pience of
hardware I have is that the SVGA card is based on the NCR 77C22 (think
that's right) chip.
	So, does anyone else have a graphics card based on this chip, or
does anyone have suggestions about what I may be doing wrong?  The NCR
card is usable as a vga card with no special drivers under MS-DOS, but I
still have to suspect the card as being the problem.
	Also, I don't suppose that anyone is working on a driver for X
for that card are they?  I'm finding that I should probably have paid 
extra to get one of the other cards Quantex offered instead of just get-
ting the 'default' one.
	Anyway, any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Bill Woodward         |   Erekose the Champion, Defender of Humanity,
AIX Development       |   Greatest of Warriors, lay wretched and sniveling
512-838-4107          |   in his bed and felt very sorry for himself indeed.
billw@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com
From: hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Found the problems with tcsh; How to fix?
Date: 18 Nov 92 23:51:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Nov18.235108.4714
Organization: School of EECS, Washington State University

In article <1992Nov18.164029.26529@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, ctne_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Chris Newbold) writes:
|> I've found the reason why tcsh 6.02 won't run under pl5: it makes
|> several calls to sigaction () with the second parameter set to NULL.
|> In his announcement, Linus said that this would cause problems
|> because of a bug in the library function sigaction ().
|> 
|> What is the best way to go about getting tcsh back up? Should I
|> get the source for the library and fix sigaction (), or is there
|> some temporary change I can make to get this working?
|> 
|> Comments, Linus? Hlu? Anybody?
|> 

I feel sorry for that. The good news is it has been fixed in libc 4.2. It
is still under testing due to new iostream and changes in kernel. If you
want to try it, please send me a note. Beside libc 4.2, you have to use
the alpha gcc 2.3.2.

H.J.
From: jem@snakemail.hut.fi (Johan Myreen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux 0.98 pl5
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:35:59 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

In article <1992Nov15.220138.5434@klaava.Helsinki.FI> torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds) writes:

>NOTE! READ THIS AND PONDER:

>pl5 now checks against writing to the text segment.  Older binaries
>which used the original estdio library (used with the earliest gcc
>versions) are liable to break: not that there should be many of these
>binaries around.  So if you get "Segmentation fault (core dumped)" on
>binaries you know used to work, this is the likely cause. 

Before the "bug reports" start coming in, I'd like to point out one
consequence of write-protected text segments. Gcc puts strings in the
text segment, and is entitled to do so, since the C standard says
string literals are const.

This breaks code modifying string literals, like for instance the
mktemp library function when called like this: mktemp("/tmp/fooXXXXXX"). 

This is not a bug in Linux or Gcc, but in *your* application, if you
use mktemp like this, or do tricks like "bar"[2]++...

--
Johan Myreen
jem@cs.hut.fi
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ins217t@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew J. Cosgriff !)
Subject: Re: (append) Does someone port ImageMagick to Linux yet?
Keywords: ImageMagick, X, linux
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:27:29 GMT

Yes !
I've got it running with the jumptable TIFF & JPEG libraries and all !
(so you need Rob Hooft's libgr01 from sunsite's
pub/Linux/Incoming/jumptables dir.)

It's fantastic !


Shall i upload it to sunsite ?
Mail and post me and I will !


Cos !
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			ins217t@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au
			cos@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
"Language is a virus from outer space" - William S. Burroughs
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: michael@gandalf.moria (Michael Haardt)
Subject: Looking for source code for fsck and others
Reply-To: u31b3hs@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Michael Haardt)
Organization: An old and gray machine, somewhere in Moria.
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 22:17:54 +0100
Return-Path: <u31b3hs@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de>

While recompiling all programs, I found that I miss source code for a
few things:

-  fsck.c  I have an old copy, but it doesn't compile on 0.98.pl4 with
   GCC 2.2.2d.  Where can I find a current version of system utils like
   fsck ?

-  mount.  I have an old version, but it seems to have bugs and there is
   no proc support.

-  file.  I found an old version, but is there a newer version which
   supports Linux in /etc/magic?

-  Where is the ps patch for 0.98.pl4?  I saw Linus mentioning such a
   patch, but somehow I am unable to find the article.

-  groff.  I miss patches for Linux.  The patches I found don't result
   in a compilable version, at least last time I tried them.  I didn't
   see an announce for new patches since then.

I already looked in the usual archives (tsx-11,sunsite,muenchen,nic),
but there are so many old versions, old binaries etc. floating around.
People who upload files should let delete them when they get obsolete!

I asked several people and all miss exactly these things, too.  I prefer
to have source code for all things, which seems to be difficult.

Michael
From: graves@jemez.eece.unm.edu (John Graves)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: SLS "shell-init: Unknown Error"
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:19:08 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque


I just installed SLS 0.98...  When it boots, I get something like:

:Unknown Error
:Unknown Error
:Unknown Error
shell-init: Unknown Error
:Unknown Error

Linux 0.98

Login:

Once I login I keep getting ":Unknown Error" and "PWD: Unknown Error" messages
whenever I do anything (ie ls cat cd) from the root directory(/).  When I'm
in (/home) or (/etc) or any other directory off of root, I don't get the errors

Anyone know what's going on?
If this matters:
386-40
130Meg HD - 90dos/40linux
8Meg Mem
SVGA

I was running 0.96 without problems...
Oh by the way, I also get a core dump when I run "menu" from the root dir.  It
works fine when I run it from /etc or /home etc.

...

Another SLS question...  I can't get "sysinstall" to read my floppy drives.
The floppy 'light' doesn't even come on.  I tried 
"sysinstall -special i -drive b:"
"sysinstall -special i -drive b"
"sysinstall -special i -drive /dev/fd??" <-- I forget the device... but I used
                                             the right one...
"sysinstall -special i -instdev /dev/fd??" .. still nothing...

any ideas?

Please send mail to 0004821977@mcimail.com... If you are having the same type
of problems, mail me and I will give you the compiled "Answers"...

Thanks n advance...

-John

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jlaiho@ichaos.nullnet.fi (Juha Laiho)
Subject: Re: Problems with CMOS after using Linux on my 486
Organization: NullNet r.y.
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 17:08:01 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.230055.28527@sfu.ca> rchen@fraser.sfu.ca (Robert Chen) writes:
>In article <BxIyzz.38z@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> pcrichar@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Pat Richard) writes:
>>In article <96973@netnews.upenn.edu> dsimon@stipple.seas.upenn.edu (Derron Simon) writes:
>>>My problem is that after loading Linux from the latest SLS disks (.98pl1, I
>>>ftp'ed them 3 days ago) I get "CMOS checksum bad" errors after every reboot.
>>>Usually the portion of CMOS that gets trashed is the Hard Drive information!
>>
>>Yes, I have also had this problem running SLS .98 pl1, though I somehow
>>feel it wasn't to do with SLS (?). When I used mtools, and then re-booted,
>>the hard disk info was lost. It was my first time using mtools, and
>[...]
>
>Anyway, on my system, CAD/reboot works only about 30% of the time.
>It hangs the machine the other 70%.  On a couple of friends' systems,
>it wipes the CMOS.  Now they shut down linux by just doing a couple of
>syncs turning off the power.
>
>I am told that this behavior happens only with AMI bios.  Don't know
>why.  Is there any chance there will ever be a fix for this?  Linux
>has had this 'bug' (if you can call it that) since the CAD code was
>introduced.
>
I have a similar problem with 386sx/16, Phoenix BIOS.
From time to time, rebooting gives me the message 'CMOS checksum failure'.
No CMOS info seems to be trashed, though.

..Wolf
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: esaffle@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ed Saffle)
Subject: Re: Xconfig for Trident8900C
Keywords: Xconfig, Trident8900C
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:20:21 GMT


  Thanks to everyone who responded on this topic...now I have everything
working pretty well.  One more thing though, my mouse is switchable
for 2 or 3 buttons.  In two button mode it works great, but 3-button
doesn't work at all.  I didn't even think about trying it till recently
and I didn't even expect it to work.  Anybody know if it should, shouldn't
or what?
  It's a microsoft compatible mouse.

Ed
From: andrew@rnivh.rni.sub.org (Andrew Wheadon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: FIX: UUCP, !, bash and smail
Date: 16 Nov 92 00:56:08 GMT
Organization: Rhein-Neckar-Informationsdienst Viernheim

One can just as easily do:
/etc/profile:
histchars=
export histchars

Bye
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: varney@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Bruce Varney)
Subject: SLS
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:04:47 GMT

	I have installed SLS on a 386. Just a couple of questions:

		Is there a more comphrehensive guide to setting up tcpip
		than the README's in the /etc/inet directory?

		Whenever I try to install disk x6, the computer completely
		hangs - has this happened to anyone else?

		It never asked for the TeX disks - how do I install them?

			Bruce
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: lee@Hawaii.Edu (Greg Lee)
Subject: xfishtank 2.0
Organization: University of Hawaii
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 12:54:54 GMT

Xfishtank 2.0 is available now from export.lcs.mit.edu:
	contrib/xfishtank.tar.Z
I just compiled it with some minor changes, given below.
It's pretty nice -- more pretty fish.  Compilation uses
a lot of space in /usr/tmp. (I'm using 0.98.5, jump libs
4.2.)
--
Greg Lee <lee@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu>
-------patch for xfish.c------
*** xfish.c.orig	Sun Oct 18 20:30:19 1992
--- xfish.c	Thu Nov 19 02:02:39 1992
***************
*** 46,52 ****
  
  /* constants are based on rand(3C) returning an integer between 0 and 32767 */
  
! #if defined(ultrix) || defined(sun)
  #define  RAND_I_1_16   134217728
  #define  RAND_F_1_8    268435455.875
  #define  RAND_I_1_4    536870911
--- 46,52 ----
  
  /* constants are based on rand(3C) returning an integer between 0 and 32767 */
  
! #if defined(ultrix) || defined(sun) || defined(linux)
  #define  RAND_I_1_16   134217728
  #define  RAND_F_1_8    268435455.875
  #define  RAND_I_1_4    536870911
***************
*** 982,988 ****
--- 982,990 ----
  	XColor hdef, edef;
  	struct colr_data *cdp;
  	struct colr_data colrs[256];
+ #ifndef linux
  	extern char *malloc();
+ #endif
  
  	colormap = XDefaultColormap(Dpy, screen);
  
***************
*** 1213,1219 ****
--- 1215,1223 ----
  	unsigned char *data;
  	register int i, j, k;
  	int cnt, wcnt;
+ #ifndef linux
  	extern char *malloc();
+ #endif
  
  	cnt = 1;
  	cnt += Pcnt;
***************
*** 1453,1458 ****
--- 1457,1465 ----
  void 
  init_signals()
  {
+ #ifdef linux
+     signal(SIGUSR1, toggle_secure);
+ #else
  #ifdef MOTOROLA
      sigset(SIGUSR1, toggle_secure);
  #else
***************
*** 1468,1473 ****
--- 1475,1481 ----
      sigvector(SIGUSR1, &vec, &vec);
  #endif
  #endif /* MOTOROLA */
+ #endif /* linux */
  }
  
  
***************
*** 1932,1938 ****
  	}
  }
  
! 
  /* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
  Higher-resolution sleep
  * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */
--- 1940,1948 ----
  	}
  }
  
! #ifdef linux
! #include <sys/types.h>
! #endif
  /* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
  Higher-resolution sleep
  * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */
***************
*** 1940,1946 ****
--- 1950,1960 ----
  high_res_sleep(seconds)
      double      seconds;
  {
+ #ifdef linux
+     fd_set	fds;
+ #else
      int         fds = 0;
+ #endif
      struct timeval timeout;
  
      timeout.tv_sec = seconds;
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: gilles@dgbt.doc.ca (Gilles Gagnon)
Subject: Q: Compilation warnings and other stuff when building kernel.
Keywords: kernel
Reply-To: gilles@dgbt.doc.ca
Organization: The Communications Research Centre
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 15:21:33 GMT

Hi fellow linuxers,

Lately I recompiled the kernel ( 0.98pl1 ) on my machine to include the network
stuff and got a few compilation warnings while doing so. I am wondering if these
can cause any trouble with the operating system or if I should forget about them.
They where mostly types inconsistencies if I recall. BTW, the warning where not
necessarily related to the network software.

Also, when I boot the system, I get the "unexpected interrupt" error from the
floppy. I thought it was gone with this distribution ( SLS 0.98pl1 ). It doesn't
bother me much but since it is supposed to be gone I wonder about its presence.
Any ideas?

When starting X11 with "startx" I get the following error message:

==> "no SIOCGIFCONF"
     XFree86 Version 1.1 / X Window System
     (protocol......

what does the "no SIOCGIFCONF" message mean and what are its effects on the system?
Note that X11 works normally and I really enjoy it.

Thanks for any information on the matter.

BTW I haven't been running DOS for quite a while and I must admit, I do not miss it
for a single CPU cycle.

Gilles




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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: roberts@romulus.cray.com (Mike Roberts)
Subject: odd mount problem
Summary: using mounted device yields kernel message
Originator: roberts@snoid
Keywords: mount, kernel
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 19 Nov 92 11:19:14 CST

I'm using linux-0.98.3 and am experiencing some odd behavior
when mounting. No matter whether I try to mount a floppy or
a hard disk partition, about 50% of the time, anytime I try
to use the mount, with ls or find for example, I get a kernel
warning:

	ll_rw_block: Trying to read nonexistant block-device 0000 (19)

Looking through the kernel source leads me to believe that 
somehow I mounted major device 0 instead of a floppy or partition.
I hacked up my mount source to print messages and as far as I can
tell, mount is working correctly. Using df also gives me the
correct results.

This is really getting to be a hassle. Has anyone else experienced
this same behavior?

Mike Roberts
From: donadio@orville.psu.edu (Beaker)
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux 0.98 pl5
Organization: Penn State Center for Academic Computing
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 18:02:24 GMT

hooft@fys.ruu.nl (Rob Hooft) writes:
: tcsh? It seems to be my primary problem. Everything else I tried still
: works (I actually recompiled tcsh under .98.5), but tcsh doesn't. I'm
: glad that I have '/etc/ctrlaltdel soft' in my /etc/rc.local. Anybody
: else have this problem too, or is it just my own compiled version?

Tcsh doesn't work for me also.  I have also noticed a problem with echo.
Whenever I use it, it logs me out.  X acted a bit strange, too.  I had
one user that could not use X.  The server would start and then just hang.
If another user started X, and then quit, the first could start X.  This
problem went away when I reinstalled pl3.

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