HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: The "first" "move" (was Re: A R C )
Date: 17 Apr 92 06:58:23 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

tlode@isis.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>In article <65495@apple.Apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr14.213357.14304@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@isis.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>>>Could be--now, being a minister myself, I tend to specialize in rites
>>>involving the worship of the earthly incarnations of the goddess
>>>Aphrodite, but being an atheist, this tends to involve a lot of lip
>>>service.
>>>
>>Oh yes. And speaking in tongues, I presume?

>Let's see...wasn't it Harpo Marx who said, "I wasn't kissing her, I was
>just whispering into her mouth"?

Really? But that mouth is rather far away from her ears.

>>>But I'm tired of thinking of England--how about, just for a little
>>>variety (at least I won't have to change the language), I lie back
>>>and think of 'down under' instead?
>>In that case you are likely to become possessed during the ceremony
>>by the spirit of a kangaroo...

>That's understandable--I've always had a certain fondness for some amount
>of bouncing up and down.

Of course, it might be the spirit of a baby kangaroo...

>Trygve    (Wanna know a secret?) 
No. Never. No Secrets. Oh all right.

--    
                  A more intimate theology, and one more consonant with 
Stef              the nature of...love, pictures a demonic force engaged  
stef@apple.com    in continuous creation and participation. - Iris Murdoch
From: rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Peeking through the curtain
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:26:54 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

Ready, aim...

In <8kxjdlp.barry@netcom.com> barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry) writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.205329.26063@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.IBM.com writes:
>>In  <7+xj3+#.barry@netcom.com>  barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry) writes:
>>>      And so forth. What I'm trying to find in your position is a moral
>>> spectrum, instead of the Old Testament, sheep-and-goats morality.

>>So if I make an active effort to get Dan's goat I'm being an asshole, but
>>if the goat leaves for greener pastures on its own, then should we meet,
>>it's beautiful?

>>I guess I feel a bit sheepish...

>	And well you should; this was a sheep shot if I've ever
>seen one.

That's for shear.  It was really baa-aad.  (Wooldn't you just know I'd ram
a couple more of these down your throats?)

-- 
Michael Rawdon
rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

All the wine in your life's all dried up - is now the time to give up?
				- Bryan Ferry, "When She Walks In The Room"
From: ccspgo@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Paul Overend)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Wedding Bands (was Re: "Nice" Guys Finish Last)
Date: 6 Apr 92 09:17:49 GMT
Organization: Bath University Computing Services, UK

The description I heard about the reason for a women to maximize the
size of the `rock' was that it soaked up all of his `take off on a 
long trip and not come back' money.  Much more subtle than a ball and
chain, and more aestheticallly pleasing too.

				Paul G. Overend

Displaced San Franciscan 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: davef@cs.ubc.ca (David Finkelstein)
Subject: Re: Business cards
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 05:56:45 GMT

In article <998@xlnt.COM> larry@xlnt.com writes:
>Recently, the soda can top story circulated around our office. I couldn't (and
>still can't) see how soda can tops can be traded for such an expensive
>treatment. It seems to me that the only worth is the aluminum itself and if
>that's what they want, why not take the whole can? After much ridicule, the
>perpetrator of the office story checked it out with a relative who works at a
>hospital. The response was, general, "We get thousands of theses things and
>don't know what to do with them. Please don't bring them here."
>
>If there truly is a company doing this, I would be very interested in knowing
>who they are and how this plan works. I find it rather odd that you, Dave, have
>turned in "several thousand of these tops" and don't know the name of the
>company.
>
>-Larry.

While I was working at Stanford, a co-worker was collecting can tabs
for a friend.  After this thread came up, I asked him for some details
so I could share them with this group.  Text from his reply:

"There is NO 'tabs for dialysis' on a national level.  Never has been to
my knowledge but my knowledge in this area is not vast, indeed, no where
near national."

There are, however, instances where local patients in need of dialysis
donation can and have approached local distributors (at least I think
that's what they are called these days) and made an agreement of a $.01
donation applied towards dialysis for each fliptop collected, dispersed
in $xxx.00 amounts.  Nothing on a "program" level and nothing that just
anyone can contribute to on a regular basis, at least not that I'm aware
of."

The family that I give my tab collection to is the only family that I am
directly aware of that has this set up (in the Monterey area) although I
have a friend who was once doing the same thing for a family in the
Seattle area."

=================

So, the skeptics will probably still consider these stories unproven
but this scenario certainly seems plausible (and I personally believe
it to be true).

-----------------
David Finkelstein
Univerity of British Columbia
davef@cs.ubc.ca
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Subject: Re: Business cards
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:16:03 GMT
Followup-To: soc.singles
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <1992Apr4.162751.12233@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max) writes:

>Whoops, Sorry for posting this thing. Its weird cause it came to me thru a
>group of doctors at Children's memorial hospital here in Chicago, I would
>have thought that they would have been aware of the original case. 

Why ever would you have thought doctors would have been aware?
I know very few who read the Guiness Book of World Records.
Craig certainly was not a medical curiosity.  I get some
notice of this silly thing stuck in my box about every six
months, and have to tell everyone it's a hoax.



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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Re:      Sexual Harassment. Dan style
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 05:38:35 GMT

In article <9204071409.AA22492@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com> GCTHORNE@idbsu.idbsu.edu writes:
>
>       Well, Dan, I tried out the "non-threatening note" idea a couple
>       of weeks ago. I inter-office-mailed a woman I work off-shift
>       from, stated *politely* that if she might want to do something
>       sometime, here's my number.
>
>       The results, to say the *least*, were
>
>                                                    SPECTACULAR!
>
>       Truly worthy of DanMosconyNess.
>
>       A couple of days later I got back a WARNING OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT.
>
>       I felt, like, I had finally ARRIVED. At one with The Dan.
>
>       Don't worry, chums. I'll give everyone within ground-zero
>       plenty of notice if I join a dating service.
>
>       This incredible response got me to thinking, and a lot of stuff
>       finally came together. I've boiled it down into 3 theories:
>
>         1) I'm fated by God to ONLY meet psycho-bitches.
>            ( I like this one. No *personal* responsibility. :) )
>
>         2) I'm *only* attracted to psycho-bitches.
>            ( I don't like this one so good. It means Fred is right,
>              and I DO  have to start dating women I don't like :)  )
>
>         3) The percentage of psycho-bitches is pretty damn high nowadays.
>            ( obviously this is *really* bad news :)  )
>
>       Ahh, it so much CLEARER Dan.
>
>      What can I say?  Like so MANY things,
>                            it seemed like a good idea at the time.
>
>      Is Dan liable? Can I make some money here?

No response from me besides a major laugh/grin, etc.  I needed a
good laugh.  I have been working  about 14 hours days the last week
or two.  Remember, buyer beware.
-- 
        ********     John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	********	
 "He that knows himself, knows others; and he that is ignornant of
himself, could not write a very profound lecture on other men's heads.
													- Charles Caleb Colton
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: The "first" "move" (was Re: A R C )
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:03:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: apple.65495
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Apr14.213357.14304@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@isis.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>In article <65421@apple.Apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>>So that's why they are aggressive ... they're looking for a sacrificial
>>victim? But hey, might be fun, depending on what's being honored...
>
>Could be--now, being a minister myself, I tend to specialize in rites
>involving the worship of the earthly incarnations of the goddess
>Aphrodite, but being an atheist, this tends to involve a lot of lip
>service.
>
Oh yes. And speaking in tongues, I presume?

>>>Trygve    (What's a atheist to do?)  
>>Lie back and think of England?
>
>But I'm tired of thinking of England--how about, just for a little
>variety (at least I won't have to change the language), I lie back
>and think of 'down under' instead?
In that case you are likely to become possessed during the ceremony
by the spirit of a kangaroo...

>Trygve 

--
Stef                 Where am I going, and what am I doing in this handbasket?
stef@apple.com
From: state@sargent.cs.unc.edu (Andrei State)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: THE ELEMENTS OF SEDUCTION was (Re: Request : Dating advice from women)
Date: 14 Apr 92 02:00:54 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill

Marianna Max writes:
> [...] richh@tigger.jvnc.net (RICHH) writes:

[Richard III synopsis omitted]

> >If you can't see the sport in this, you will never understand men.
>
> Is anyone maybe getting an idea of why many women feel the need to protect
> themselves from men, not just the rapist, but the guy next door that seems
> oh so charming? 

No, but I'm getting yet another hint that as Dan keeps
repeating, women want sex less than men on the average.


Andrei
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max)
Subject: Re: buying things
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 15:13:53 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.162601.26869@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> mcregor@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Meloney Cregor) writes:
>In article <1992Apr04.182927.21766@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.IBM.com writes:
>>In  <1992Apr4.161712.4080@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>  mcregor@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Meloney Cregor) writes:
>>>
>>> mel-- who is giving up on YoungerMen, problem or otherwise.  I'm considering
>>> becoming a hermit. Does anyone know of a nice cave?
>>
>>Watch out for those hermit crabs!
>
>I dunno, Larry.  I rather like crab.  
>A cozy little cave by the water with lots of little crab things to eat
>sounds kinda appealing just about now.  Nothing to do but hunt all day and
>swim, and if it's secluded enough, ya don't need clothes and ... boy I gotta 
>stop this or I'll talk myself right into it.
>


Hey Mel, I know of this really great beach along the Yucatan Penn that you
have to hike (from where the bus drops you off) two miles of jungle to get
to. Bordering it is an old coconut plantation with some old buildings. The 
beach lies along a lagoon protected by a reef. Absolutely the clearest
bluest water imaginable. On a headland in the middle of the lagoon is an 
old ruin of a Mayan lighthouse. Coconuts year round, fish and conch and
lobster in the reef that you can spear. The jungle is interesting too,
orchids and iguana and an occasional unidentified. I didn't see another 
soul the whole week that I camped there. 

MaX
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: hevern@cac.washington.edu (M. Hevern)
Subject: Re: Request : Dating advice from women
Organization: U.W. Information Systems
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 02:56:30 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.185854.15398@midway.uchicago.edu>, pooh@group-w.uchicago.edu (Pooh @ the Utility Muffin Research Kitchen) writes:
> Men: I love 'em, but just because they have a hammer they think everything
>    is a nail ... ;-)

That about hits nail on the head (ouch!).

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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: dbj@cs.washington.edu (Dave Johnson)
Subject: Re: Discussion Of Romantic Songs
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 21:02:50 GMT

In article <3840056@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM> wjb@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Bill Buse) writes:
>For a change of topics, how about a discussion of romantic songs or 
>favorite songs that could be considered to be romantic.  :-)  

For Valentine's Day I decided to do one of those cute romantic
things and make a tape of love songs for my sweetie.  So I started
looking thru my CD collection for some choices, and, well, I guess
I'm just not the romantic sort.  When I got to 'Love is a Battlefield'
I couldn't resist including it.  What I ended up with was a tape of
'Love' songs--all the songs had the word Love in the title, but here's
some examples from the list:

'Love is a Battlefield'  Pat Benatar
'I Love It When You Call Me Names'  Joan Armatrading
'Only Love Can Break Your Heart'    Neal Young

I did manage to squeeze in a few real love songs, but the other
ones were so much more memorable.

-- 
  Dave Johnson

"You're not too smart, are you?  I like that in a man."
    --Kathleen Turner in Body Heat 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: grund@pyrite.SOM.CWRU.edu (Victor Grund)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Sleeping Around While Dating (was Re: Male visual orientationREFRESH)
Date: 14 Apr 92 09:03:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: pyrite.GRUND.92Apr14040356
	<1992Apr2.214519.19852@midway.uchicago.edu>
	<1992Apr7.170420.5029@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
	<1992Apr7.230048.1055@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
Organization: International Business Machines, Cleveland, Ohio, USA


I'd have a hard time maintaining a romantic relationship (physical or
otherwise) with a women who I knew was activity bonking some other man
or men.  Sincerity, competition, and self-consciousness would be my
major problems.  Let's not even start talking about communicable
diseases.  Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.

Victor
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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,sci.med,misc.consumers,misc.kids
Subject: Re: Business cards
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:49:54 GMT
Followup-To: soc.singles
Distribution: na
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

My pet cat "Henry" would like to be the first cat in the guiness book
of world records to collect one million dollars in $2 bills.  So send
all your $2 bills to me and I`ll see that he gets them.

-- 
+=============================================================================+
| John Fereira                Al Bundy for President          
| johnf@auspex.com         "He's as good as the next guy"                     |
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@isis.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Male visual orientationREFRESH
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	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 19:45:58 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.170420.5029@ccu.umanitoba.ca> browns@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Stuart Brown) writes:
>
>This brings up a major problem I've been struggling with. 
>
>I read this post and I think, gee that sounds wonderful.  I bet it would be 
>great to fantastic to do that wild thang with Pooh.. I mean, yeah its better
>with someone you love, and have a serious commitment with, but it could also
>be a blast to do it with someone who you hardly know, but who is *good* at sex.
>In fact, there are just bunches of excellent women out there that I could have
>a great time making love with, and who could teach me lots of new tricks too.
>
>So how can I think like that, and maintain one solid, exclusive relationship?
>My current SO and I have agreed that it will only work between us if we are both
>completely honest and faithful to each other.   Damn.
>
>So how about y'all?  Where is the solution to this dilemma?

I don't know if there's any one definitive solution, but I think it's 
important to remember that thinking is not the same as doing--certainly
I've had thoughts about gently nibbling Pooh's neck, squeezing her
shoulders with my hands and letting them slowly travel down her arms
to her waist, pulling her against me as she felt my lips and my breath
warm on the back of her neck, but that's not the same as doing it.
Your SO probably has a few carnal thoughts from time to time involving
people other than you--her favorite movie stars, a really cute guy who
works at the bookstore near her office, or even some other net.person--
which is all perfectly normal and natural and doesn't imply anything
wrong in the relationship.

Now, if either of you found yourself thinking exclusively about someone
other than your SO or no longer found your SO appealing, then there would
be cause for worry about the relationship.

I think the second most important thing to remember at this point is that
it's important to accept these feelings as OK--when you reject something
that is a real part of yourself instead of accepting it and dealing with
it, you give that part of yourself power over you.  The more you say to
yourself "bad thoughts!  Stop that!" the more they'll start sneaking up
on you at the most inappropriate times.

So, how to resolve it?  Don't worry about it--treat these thoughts as
normal and natural; mention them if you feel you need to, but don't act
like there's something wrong with them or they're all that important to
you.  (That is to say, mentioning them casually and occasionally is OK,
but don't bring it up every time you have such a thought.)



Trygve    (This post is brought to you by the letters 'P' and 'Z'
           and by the isotope U-235.)
From: intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Spring Fever or what?
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:39:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Apr14.233925.28504
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <3840059@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM> wjb@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Bill Buse) writes:
>In soc.singles, intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing) writes:
> > Okay, it finally happened.  I just went over the edge.  I made a
> > puppet of my hand like that crazy old guy on Ed Sullivan used to do.
>
>You're giving your age away by admitting to watching Ed Sullivan.  **GIGGLE**

Don't you *dare* giggle at me you dweeb!  Ever heard of retrospectives? 
HUH?  Or re-runs?!?!  Sheesh.  Good lord ...a grown man on *purpose*
typing "*GIGGLE*"  To borrow a phrase ....  It is to hurl.

Angelwing - That just drives me crazy

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Newsgroups: soc.roots
Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 09:19:41 PDT
From:         Tom Lincoln <lincoln%iris@RAND.ORG>
Subject:      A comparative study of research
Comments: To: Roots-L@vm1.nodak.edu

In researching a particular Lloyd family from Virginia
and western Pennsylvania, I have been lucky enough to
locate two professionally done genealogies in
manuscript, here called "A" and "B", one completed in
1940 and the other in 1990. Both used some earlier
genealogies as common sources, but they are otherwise
quite separate. Both are very rich in research detail.
I have just finished comparing and merging four
generations covering a period from the late 1700's to
1890 in which almost all of the names of the Lloyd
family members were known to both parties, but with
varying amounts of data about dates, places,
marriages, etc. (Thereafter the interests in specific
lines diverge.) I find the results to be interesting:

Genealogy A (1940)
Characters: 7941
Words: 1220

Genealogy A + Genealogy B (1990)
Characters: 12069 1.5 times longer
Words: 1901 1.5 times longer

Overlap
Characters: 7144   60%
Words: 1056  80%  -- by the Pareto "80/20 rule"
		     this number probably best

Inconsistencies between Genealogies
Characters: 427  6%
Words: 63  6% -- half might be due to the usual
		 transcription error rate of 3%..
(Two major inconsistencies have been
 clarified and the proper assignments
confirmed by further research.)

Estimated contribution
of significant new data by each: 50%

In summary: 1) merging the data on the four
generations, the whole contains "1.5 times" as much
information as Genealogy A alone, and both add about
equally to each other; 2) with two important
exceptions (where 50 years makes a difference),
agreement has been high; 3) Genealogy B is more
ambitiously documented; 4) nevertheless, Genealogy A
adds important detail, probably corrects a few dates,
etc. and fills in many holes... Clearly, quite
different document trails have been followed by each
researcher.

With respect to any genealogical problem, one wonders
how big the information iceberg really is... Probably
much bigger than we think, and perhaps it is only
because there are many needles in the haystack that we
are as successful as we are. If we only knew how better
to navigate the data sources and dip into unexpected
corners. Sometimes I have found key information quite
by accident looking for something else. This has been
a common experience when multi-processing several
separate family lines who lived in the same area,
however, I can find no good rules for serendipity,
except "look around!"

Would someone else care to comment on the lessons
here?

Tom
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 08:30:00 EST
From:         FAC_DBOYDRUS@JMUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      RE: Henkle family

Are your N.C. Henkle's tied in with those from Virginia, especially the New
Market area of Shenandoah County?
Dorothy Boyd-Rush