From: cza@troy.cc.bellcore.com ()
Subject: Re: He has "not the slightest clue" as to the Cause of the Holocaust
Keywords: Re: Apparently we have another "revisionist" to expose: Schuerzinger.
Organization: BCR, NJ-USA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 12:57:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.030212.18409@urartu.sdpa.org> dbd@urartu.sdpa.org (David Davidian) writes:
>In article <1992Nov22.212342.6278@walter.bellcore.com> cza@troy.cc.bellcore.com
>(Cengiz Akgun) responded to article <1992Nov22.025242.4345@dartvax.dartmouth.
>edu> J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger) who 
>wrote:
>
>[TS] Serdar, you still ignore the genocide of approximately one million
>[TS] Armenians towards the end of the first world war.
>
>[CA] Never mind what Serdar ignores.  Do you agree that same
>[CA] geneocide claims by Armenians also applicable to Ottoman Muslims
>[CA] (Turks/Kurds)?  If "yes" skip the rest. 
>[CA] If your answer is "no." Why?  
>
>[CA] This a fact that number by number the loss and suffering of 
>[CA] Ottoman Muslims far a head of Armenians by the end 
>[CA] of WWI.  However, I haven't seen any one in the West got up and said 
>[CA] "wait a minute" when Armenians start contending
>[CA] with that they would be a sole benefactor of such recognition
>[CA] without mentioning of other huge civilian sufferings
>[CA] inflicted on Ottoman Muslims.   
>
>This is bullshit, and you know it. Do you think Armenians were going to let
>this crap get by? 

O yeah.  The same applies to your BS that any Turk won't
get by here.

>
>Six million Jews died at the hands of the Germans, but over ten million 
>Germans died in WWII. The Jewish deaths were genocidal, the deaths of
>the Germans were the results of German entry into armed conflict . Since
>you can't see the difference, it is no wonder you ask the foolish questions
>at the end of your posting.

There were close to 20 Million Russian (xSoviet Union)
deads in the same war.  What is your point?  If Armenian
deads were genocidal, Muslim deads were too.  Armenians
got into armed conflict with the state that they lived
in.  They were not a innocent by standers as you wish to
portray here.  This is a simple fact that you cannot wash it out 
with any cleansing.

>
>...BS deleted...
>
>[CA]  1. Did Jews establish Jewish armies behind German lines to backstab 
>[CA]     Germans and to establish a Jewish State on German soil? 
>
>There were Zionist units fighting in Germany, and British sponsored Jewish
>units in Italy. There were Jews fighting in the US Military against Germany.
>And anyway, so what if they did, would that have justified genocide? There
>were Jewish units in Palestine after WWII fighting for a homeland. Using your
>logic the Arabs should have commited genocide on these Jews establishing a
>Jewish State on Arab soil. You fool! 

 What a ding-bat!  There were no single evidence any Jew
 had any conspiracy (with or without arms) against their state 
 to provoke any German to start this horrible Nazi animosity
 leading to Holocaust.  Go tell those jems above in scj and get your 
 reply.  

>
>[CA]  2. Did Jews organize and carry out a general slaughter of the local
>[CA]     Christian population in Hamburg, Darmstad, Koln? 
>     
>Oh, I see, if the Jew had indeed carried out a slaughter, then it would have
>been OK to have committed genocide on the Jews. Hmm..interesting logic!
>
>[CA]  3. Did Jews raise an army of one hundred and fifty thousand men to 
>[CA]     fight a civil war? 
>
>No, and neither did the Armenians. Go ahead, present your evidence.

How much evidence do you want?  Wasn't the daily doze your
are getting in SCT enough?

>
>[CA] It is those arguments make the Holocaust a unique crime that no one
>[CA] have a slightest clue why it has happenned.
>
>What a fool!

What a ding-bat!

C. Akgun