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From: TA0SHK1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815))
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Date: 20 Dec 92 18:12:00 GMT
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>> IMO, it is unreasonable to expect perfect spelling and syntax in anything
>>  that has to be written under time limit conditions ...

> Why should time pressure be an excuse for errors?

: Without going into detail about the research that has been done in the area
: of language disabilities (my field), let me just say that the stress invoked
: by time limitations (or for any other reason) screws up the language
: processing and production centres of the brain making the likelihood of errors
: much greater under stress-invoking situations. Under stressful conditions
: errors in judgement are more likely to be made also for a similar reason.

Carolyn, what does "errors in judgement are more likely to be made"
mean?  (1) All people commit errors in judgement more frequently
under time pressure?  (2) Some people commit more errors in judgement
under time pressure than others?  My experience is that (2) is closer
to the truth.  Dinging people for committing time-trouble errors is
therefore useful.  Because time-pressure situations arise more
frequently for people in responsible positions, I think it's
part of my responsibility to identify people who are more likely to
slip up.  I don't want people who are easily flustered in positions
of authority.

Steve Karlson

Get a good start and sail on the lifted tack.  (The best sailors do,
even on crowded starting lines with shifting winds).
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From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: What kind of people are you, anyway?
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              18 Dec 92 10:45:08 -0500. <9212181554.AA17586@sics.se>

  >I assume that was German

  Why?
From: hamel@uakari.primate.wisc.edu (Ray Hamel)
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> 10)  Grace Quigley

	Grace Quigley is the title character of a Katharine
Hepburn film, aka THE ULTIMATE SOLUTION OF GRACE QUIGLEY,
in which she attempts to do away with herself by hiring
hitman Nick Nolte.

> 11)  Kirstie Alley

	The actress who plays Rebecca Howe on CHEERS.
She has made several films including STAR TREK II: THE WRATH OF
KHAN; MADHOUSE; LOOKS WHO'S TALKING and LOOK WHO'S TALKING TOO.
From the trivia file:  Before achieving success she was
a contestant on the MATCH GAME with Gene Rayburn.

> 15)  Wolf Blitzer

	The CNN correspondent with the best name in
the news business.  He claims it is his real name.

Ray Hamel
University of Wisconsin
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Anyone heard about khat in Somalia?
Date: 20 Dec 1992 06:06:10 GMT
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In a previous article, gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK (Graham Toal) says:

>What's this I've just read about the US banning the local
>recreational drug in Somalia (if it's anything like Jordan and other
>places in that area it'll be a mild chewed narcotic leaf is my guess)
>while introducing alcohol to the country against local moral codes.
>Isn't alcohol likely to do more long term damage?
>
Only if you don't regard lethal results to anyone in the vicinity as
"more long term damage".  That drug makes gun-toters more likely to shoot
anything that moves.:-(  It's not a matter of civil rights or moral codes;
it's a matter of trying to keep their own butts from being shot off, and
incidentally a lot of other peoples' too.  If I remember correctly, that
stuff can make you pretty paranoid.... [I think some got into the water
in J Edgar Hoover's water cooler...]

-- 
		###	Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###
			- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
	      Where anything can happen, and it usually does
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Mice, icons, etc.
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> advertised.  For the first time EVER, I am able to switch between
> WordPerfect and EW+ (my Japanese word-processor) WITHOUT having to
> reboot.  It is WONDERFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Add the ability to read list mail
> at the same time, without having to exit either of these programs, and

I do all of the above with DESQview -- and I don't have to fool with icons
or mouse.  I agree that multitasking is wonderful.  I'm spoiled by being
able to do things like work on something in Wordperfect while downloading
a long file in Procomm etc. etc.  But I'm sure glad I don't have to put
up with OS/2 to do it.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date: 19 Dec 1992 18:24:17 GMT
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In a previous article, BBAXTER@uga.cc.uga.edu (Brad Baxter) says:

>>More like PMS, actually.  Not all MS-DOS machines have it, but those
>>--
>My friend Loretta says, "What is the difference between a terrorist and
>a woman with PMS?  You can negotiate with a terrorist."
>
I think she's right.:-)  

-- 
		###	Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###
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	      Where anything can happen, and it usually does
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Subject:      UUCP Mail
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UUCP request att!D.atte58b724 to mhwpa!D.atte58b724
failed on system 'mhwpa'.
Reason for failure:
        remote system can't create temp file
        remote file system is low on free space
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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Macs and OS/2 and other nonsense
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> thing which justifies it. Don't stuff the list with
> wimpy academic discussions about OS/2 and other rot.
>
> I can accept the kind of stupidity that makes people
> actually have feelings about operating systems and
> computers. But what kind of inner sickness makes people

Yes, Virginia, there *is* a Scrooge.
doris
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
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>No offence, but the people who did best the time I tried trivial pursuit
>were dick-brained morons.
>
>G

You still haven't excluded yourself as a player. :-)

Carolyn
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: EEEEEEEEEEK!!!
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On Wed, 16 Dec 1992, Matthew Beams wrote:

>
 Eeeeeethreemorepaperstodofailingnomoneylosingmyhairconstantheartburnnochristmas
>
 spiritgoodsolsticetoyoushalliwearwhitecannotfunctionasanormalhumanbeingalreadys
 e
>
 tnomailhowcanifunctionoverxmaswithoutwordsliamhavingafitorshalliwearredwhatwoul
> dwilliamsafiresayrestwelleveryoneandyesisaidyesiwillyeseeeeekmatthew

Likewise, Matthew. Seeya on the other side.

-abh
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From:         Frank Peters <fwp@CC.MSSTATE.EDU>
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In article <01GSGLWGXH2C000XPV@opie.bgsu.edu>
 CROSEN%BGSUOPIE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu says:
:       I there an alt.true-crime.gore discussion group?

No.  Wait until Al has been in office for a few months though.

--
Frank Peters  -  UNIX Systems Programmer  -  Mississippi State University
Internet: fwp@CC.MsState.Edu  -  Phone: (601)325-7030  -  FAX: (601)325-8921
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From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Identification etc

>It takes a pretty strong will to simply refuse to
>produce anything

And it is a very good question whether your refusal produces the articulable
suspicion necessary for the copper to pat you down for weapons--and whatever
else they might find.

-K

-Mka
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Subject:      Re: Common law

Greetings,

Ausbrook, I grovel before your superior wisdom.  I am but a clueless mass
feeding on the cast-off scraps of your intellectual plate--and one
lamentably prone to willful distortions of the most egregious sort.  Of
course, I should have realized that the collective opionions of the clerks
is of greater import than the opinion of Justice Blackmun in Roe v. Wade!
Forgive me my lack of understanding.  As well, I should have realized that
the cases citing Griswold in the years since are but judicial dust in the
wind, but a mote in your eye.  I cast them aside.  Could you supply me a
list of acceptable justices, those whose opinions we can trust?  One
wonders, for example, whether Learned Hand woul meet your rigorous standards?

Meanwhile, since I am, as you have said, prone to distortion, I wonder
whether you might deign to explain to me the relationship between the
two sentences that follow:

1. "English common law has no bearing on any U.S. practice, except that of the
historian."

2. I said, btw, English common law is just not the law here, anywhere.
Influence? *Of course* there's <influence>."

Marty (bowing, scraping)
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From:         ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM
Subject:      PIN-DROP

> >Call 1-800-PIN-DROP for a good time....

So did I.  The day three years ago when AT&T said it would not pay for
raises to the contract employees was the day I called Sprint.  No
loyalty asked, none given.  AT&T and I have an open marriage :-).

> That's what I did...now who do I call to get AT&T off my back?
> Three phone calls and five pieces of mail to get me to switch back,
> when I have explained clearly that if their rates were lower I'd
> be happy to.

Funny, but I don't get those calls.  I get calls from places that want
to sell me a freezerful of meat, but I don't get calls from any of the
phone companies.  Six of one....

> But on a lighter note...I don't think we would know it was Ken
> w/out all those cute little bounce notices!  Especially 'cause
> he said he's gonna be busy changing locations.  (Again?  Isn't
> that why the computer changed in the first place?)

"By their bounces shall ye know them": sounds like a Fundamentalist
strip show in Jersey City....  When this machine was created, I was
moved from a system in this building called HLWPK (right down the
hall) to MHWPA.  MHWPA is located at Murray Hill, six miles south, but
as a "cost-saving measure," the people who administer the machine when
it breaks about once a day are in Whippany, about 7 miles NORTH of
here, so they have to drive through bad suburban traffic to get to the
source of the problem.  Real cost-effective, right?  Ted Mack missed
something with this joint.

The final cost savings is the physical move from this site to the
Murray Hill facilities: seven connected buildings.  AT&T allegedly
pays $4 million a year in rent for this place so the cleaning crew and
security guards can come in here at night and burgle things (software,
tape recorders, pens).  All I'm gonna get out of this move is an extra
forty minutes a day in my car, plus I can be NEAR the machine that
nobody on site can fix anyway because they're someplace else.

Science fiction, anyone?
--
Kenneth Wolman                  |       I'm a Doctor, you're a Doctor
AT&T Bell Laboratories          |       He's a Doctor, she's a Doctor,
(201)564-2866                   |       Wouldn't'cha like to be
Kenneth.Wolman@att.com          |       A Doctor too??
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Subject: Re: Global Village stuff

Tushar comments
>Harwell, get a life. Even in the hinterland of India we used to
>get emails from Russia. Two years ago, Harwell. And what do you
>mean, what is ".omsk"? Omsk is Omsk. Jeez.
                                      _____  Watch it ts ! We all know
what this is a representation for.  You're not showing proper respect
for a basic value.

JAG
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From:         Bernard Chien Perro <maynor@CS.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Thank You
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I want to thank all of you who sent convincing arguments to Natalie
about why I shouldn't have to have my teeth cleaned.
                        o/.\____/
         -- Bernard      \______|
                         / \  / \
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From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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Subject:      Re: montgomeryisms

        I forget, but when Nanook of Nanaimo was holding forth about those
        antiwhatevers, was "jibe" included--meaning "to agree" and "to go in the
        opposite direction"?

Not to mention "to change tacks while sailing downwind," which is not
quite the same thing as "go in the opposite direction."

I posted on this to a.u.e 2 years ago: many people confuse the words:

     gibe, gybe, jibe, and jive. Note to mention jybe and gyve.

Indeed.  Some sailors spell it "jibe", others spell it "gybe."
I've also seen "jibe" and "gibe" used to mean "putdown" or sarcastic
remark.

Steve Karlson

Get a good mark rounding and gybe to the lifted tack.
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From:         ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU
Subject:      Re: 2 toasts
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Posted on 18 Dec 1992 at 12:16:25 by CHRIS SCHMIDT
>Speaking from quite a few years of experience, Windows and MAC OS are not much
>alike.  If you've ever done more than turned either machine on, you wouldn't
>have made such a stupid comment.

Chris, *I* was the one who made this stupid comment!  I have, in crunch
situations, been forced to write in both environments.  These environments
may not be similar (I bow to your superior knowledge, O Poobah!) but they
FELT the same to me.  Okay?  Are you happy now?  I realized last night,
in fact, that what felt the same to me was the b/w environment of Word
for Windows.  The desktop environment didn't feel the same because it was
in b/w on the mac I used and in color for Windows.

Karen
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Subject:      Re: Scandinavians
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Posted on 14 Dec 1992 at 18:44:03 by torkel@SICS.SE
>  Yes, we always use bathing machines, so suits are unnecessary.

What is a bathing machine?  Why do I think that you are destroying
all my fantasies deliberately?

Karen
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: An unbelievable article.
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On Sat, 12 Dec 1992, Matthew Beams wrote:

> So, has anyone else overheated yet?  Can you even believe that there are not
> only still believe who believe things like this, but who publish their
 thoughts
> on it?  I'm not saying that people are not entitled to their own beliefs, I
> just can't believe someone hasn't stoned this guy yet.  :-)
>
> Well, I'm off to read and write two book reviews.  (Isn't it funny how all
> through middle school and high school we write "book reports" but suddenly
> when we get to college they become "book *reviews*"?)
>
> Matthew
>
> beamsmatt@urvax.bitnet
> beamsmatt@urvax.urich.edu
>
> prescriptivist and proud

Matthew,

As Chance said in _The Painted Bird_, our chairs are very close together.
However, you can't advocate stoning someone who disagrees with you or you
can expect to have soneone stone you for same. Heck, you'll have people
trying to to it to you anyway, so you might as well hold yourself above
those who do ;-)

Folks, I sleep better knowing that there are beamsmatts coming up through
the ranks all over the country, or at least I comfort myself with that
fervent hope.

-abh
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From:         "Michael E. Macmillan" <MACMILLM%EWC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: 2 toasts

>Something about all this modem business really rings a bell, as in
>"The Bell ram sans parity."  Could this really be Quasi Modem of
>Noted Fame?

Gosh, I don't know.  All I know is that I'm trying to avoid getting a
Quasi Modem.  I want the real thing.

Michael E. Macmillan
(macmillm@ewc)
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From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      PCH Sweepstakes
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I was very surprised to get a letter from the Treasurer of PCH the other
day.  The first paragraph reads "Our Director of Contests, Margarete
Thuemmler, advises me that you are one of the people who meets all
requirements to guarantee you Finalist status in our current
Sweepstakes. Congratulations!"

I finally figured out that I was not a big winner because it says "You
should also know we tell major winners the good news in person." But in
case I have any bozo friends who try to scam me, The Treasurer included
his private phone nb.: "Naturally I would appreciate it if you would
keep this number private and use it yourself only if the Prize Patrol
calls on you." (So don't even *try* to get it out of me!)

So keep your fingers crossed--it may be time to start ordering the Suns
and checking out boats for the Words-L Villefranche Tour. I trust Carol
and Clint wouldn't mind moving the 'bake to southern France?  We could
make it Escargot Bake '93.

We'll know January 29th in any case.:)

Karen
who has all her fingers and toes crossed!
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Subject:      Fischer indicted!

Greetings,

As I was posting my earlier note, I heard on NPR that Bobby Fischer has
been indicted for participating in his recent match with Spassky, which
as you all recall took place in the former Yugoslavia.

Marty
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Subject:      Re: Fischer indicted!

> >So, who finally won the contest?
> >
> >//anne//
>
> It's not over yet, but the U.S. Attorney is the odds-on favorite.
>
> -K
>
> -Mka

I thought that Fischer's liability depended on him returning to the
States.  Would a foreign government go so far as to extradite him back
to the USA?

Ken
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Subject: Re: Now for something completely anal-retentiv
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 08:56:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.041115.12174@netsys.com> jthomas@netsys.com (Jim Thomas) writes:
>I'm easy to recognize---I'm the one with the tweed sport jacket, guccis,
>and briar pipe. 

Very amusing Jim!  Come on, what do you *really* look like?  (And don't
try to kid me you're a refugee from a David Lodge novel...)

G
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>>That's "not very much different", isn't it?
>>Carolyn
>
>   Sorry Carolyn, in my previous post I answered this question with,
>   "No, it's not," but I meant to say, "Yes, it is." (I think.)
>
>   <still scratching my head>
>
>* Alt-Brad *

I've always had that problem with tag questions too. It wasn't until I did
Linguistics that I really understood them (I think?). Logically the correct
answer should be "Yes, it isn't".... to confirm the first statement or "No,
it is" to deny it... responding to the tag question with a tag statement.
However, most people don't seem to interpret these logically and will answer
with either of the two statements you used. Unfortunately you are not alone
in your confusion..... I had a problem trying to work out which tag would be
appropriate for the question I asked - I'm still not sure I used the right
one - but I reasoned that "That's <quote>" was a postive statement and
therefore required a negative tag, even though the particular quoted material
began with 'not'. :-(

Carolyn (also still scratching her head)
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Subject:      What kind of people are you, anyway?

*** Resending note of 12/18/92 09:38

>--Boundary (ID Q40cyTo/rG+XxRx0v1l+Tw)
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>          Don't get me wrong, the group looks great.  I'm just fairly sure
>          I can't keep up with the deluge.

>          Steve Kutzer

>-Boundary (ID Q40cyTo/rG+XxRx0v1l+Tw)--

Ah, just delete half the stuff unread ....that's what the real wimps do!

BTW, what's all that funny boundry stuff?

Oh yeah, welcome Steve!

Don, peaceful idiot, sometimes wimp, and onetime JM!
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