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From: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Unmounting of busy HSFS filesys causes panic
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:50:37 GMT
Reply-To: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Distribution: usa
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM

In article <MANN.92Apr9203106@emma.la.asu.edu> mann@emma.la.asu.edu (Mark Mann) writes:
>
>Scenario:
>   - SunOS 4.1.2 / Any sparc architecture
>   - User's current directory is on a hsfs mounted filesystem (CDROM)
>   - The hsfs filesystem is unmounted ( umount(8) )
>
>   --> System goes into panic / reboot
>
>This certainly seems to be a bug in the OS.  The umount request should
>fail if the file system is currently in use.  

I agree completely. In fact when I ran into this, I called the hotline and
complained. Sun's response was most unhelpful, basically they said you 
aren't supposed to use umount(8) on a CD-ROM, it doesn't work properly anyway
(first I've heard, works fine if the device isn't busy). You're supposed
to use eject(1) instead. Of course, this isn't documented anywhere ("you
must use eject to dismount a CD-ROM filesystem" etc.).

I ran "strings" on /usr/bin/eject, and among other things, it runs umount,
apparently with a system() call.  Beats me how that umount is going to be any 
different than my own. But I didn't particularly feel like crashing my system
again to find out ...
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From: schneck@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Bernhard Schneck)
Subject: Re: Problems after SunOS4.1.2 Upgrade
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:00:33 GMT

sjm@merlinanu.edu.au (Stephen Meatheringham) writes:

>We have just upgraded our SPARCs to SunOS4.1.2 and now we are having problems
>with libraries when linking programs.   Some of these programs are using the
>X window libraries, others are using other various libraries (e.g. nag, pgplot,
>etc.).    The only thing in common is that we get 
>ld: Undefined symbol

This is a known bug (feature ?) in the SunOS4.1.2 ld (there is also a
patch for 4.1.1 to break ld).  It tries to resolve *all* undefined
externals for *all* routines in *all* libraries where you load *any*
routine from.

The resulting binary runs without problems, just make (and some users)
get confused by the exit(1) with the bogus unresolved externals.

Some recommend keeping the (unpatched) 4.1.1 ld ... 

>					Stephen Meatheringham

\Bernhard.
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From: hendrick@ctron.com (Jim Hendrick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Source Control Software Query
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:26:11 GMT
Organization: Cabletron Systems Inc.

Hi
	Does anyone know of a source control system that does NOT
require that all the master file systems be exported read/write? It
would seem that this could be done using some sort of client-server model
so that submitting changes would request the server make these entried in
its database (rather than the client machine running an executable that does
a setuid to "source-control" and then modifies the source file system
directly). This would seem to provide (at least) two benefits, first
of all, network nfs traffic should be reduced, second it would seem to
be much more secure in that the actual master source database would not
be accessable to end users. If there is such a beast, please let me know
via email (as I will be posting this to several groups that I read only
occasionally).

Thanks!!

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From: bobf@verdix.com (Bob Foery)
Subject: Looking for "tip" HELP!
Summary: looking for help using tip
Keywords: tip unix utility
Organization: Verdix Corp.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 20:57:28 GMT

We are using the tip utility to download s-record files to several VMEbus
cards.  Often, the s-record download will fail due to a problem on the
target board.

The problem is that tip is still in the "copy mode", and the seemingly only way
to exit is to use ~^Z.  After doing this, subsequent tries to tip to the serial
port (/dev/ttya) fail with the message "all ports busy".

If we attempt to delete the lock file (/var/spool/locks/LCK..ttya), subsequent
tip attempts fail with "link down".

At present, the only solution we know of is to reboot the workstation.  Does
anyone know of a better, less painful solution?

BTW, we are running SunOS4.1.1 on SPARCstation IPCs.

Thanks in advance,
-Bob Foery
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From: mahesh@amnese.eng.uab.edu (B.G. Mahesh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: rusers : how does it know which hosts it has to check
Date: 5 Apr 92 19:27:18 GMT
Reply-To: mahesh@amnese.eng.uab.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Alabama at Birmingham
Originator: mahesh@amnese.eng.uab.edu


	I would like to know what files have to be modified
	for rusers to know which hosts it has to check to list
	the users. I want it to list the users of host1 and host2
	only. I know I can get this by "rusers host1 host2"
	but when I use "rusers" only it lists the users of
	host3 which is not in my department. Please respond 
	by email.


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From: km@mathcs.emory.edu (Ken Mandelberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Max Ram on SLC?
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:16:58 GMT
Reply-To: km@mathcs.emory.edu
Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS

In article 16175@lokkur.dexter.mi.us, scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons) writes:
>scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons) writes:
>
>>What's the maximum amount of RAM you can put on an SLC?  We've got a
>>number at 16MB that are a bit cramped with OW2 and the boss wants to
>>got to OW3.  Can we go to 16MB simms in any of those slots?

>>Paul Eggert (eggert@twinsum.com) replied within an hour, saying he's
>been told it's a 64MB max and he's currently running 24MB in an SLC
>with no problem.  Two folks requested summaries, so it must be a topic
>of general interest.  Enjoy.

I'll bet Eggert really has an ELC (or maybe an SLC that was upgraded to an
ELC). Supposedly the SLC an only handle 4*4MB, while the ELC can handle
4*{4MB/16MB}. I'll bet its an SLC that had 2*4MB that was upgraded to
an ELC, with 1 16MB card added with the upgrade.

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From: mcneill@louie.udel.edu (Keith McNeill)
Subject: Looking for good 3rd party supplier in the UK
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 09:05:28 GMT

Does anybody know of a good (cheap) 3rd party (disk, tape etc) supplier in
the UK?

Please email to me at mcneill@udel.edu.  I'm dialing up across the ocean
now so I don't have the time to read news.

I'll post a summary.

Thanks,

Keith
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From: lou@nptn.org (Lou Anschuetz)
Subject: Re: 4.1.2 cron and daylight savings time
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 15:08:08 GMT

Craig A Zook 283-4206 (zook@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov) writes:
: In article <1992Apr5.201702@thuja.gsfc.nasa.gov>, karl@thuja.gsfc.nasa.gov (Karl A. Anderson) writes:
: |> In article <1992Apr5.201017.14981@cs.tulane.edu>, mb@cs.tulane.edu (Mark
: |> Benard) writes:
: |> |> Cron jobs on a Sun 670MP stopped running after the time change this
: |> |> morning. It looks like cron just forgot the crontab entries, because
: |> |> as soon as I editted the entries, cron starting running the jobs as
: |> |> specified. This happened with user news.  I am not sure about root,
: |> |> because there were no root jobs scheduled.
: |> |> 
: |> |> Did this happen elsewhere?  With SunOS 4.1.1?
: |> 
: |> It happened to me also - 4.1.2.  My nightly network backup didn't go -
: |> seems like cron just "forgot".
: |> --
: The same thing occured on my SS2 which I just upgraded to 4.1.2.
: My other machines at 4.1.1 had no problem.  Doing a "crontab -e" and
: the saving with no changes was enough to make things work again.

Also happened to both my Sparc2 and IPC.  Root's cron entries worked,
all others stopped.  Again editing the other crontabs fixed it.  Looks
like we can declare this a "genuine" 4.1.2 bug  :-)

Lou Anschuetz, lou@nptn.org & lou@yfn.ysu.edu
From: tom@peyote.icr.tfs.com (Tom Pierce)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Sys admin have root access to user stations?
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:04:16 GMT
Organization: TRW Financial Systems

In article <92090.063818DANCC@CUNYVM.BITNET> DANCC@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:
>We're finally getting our IPCs hooked up on a net, and the grad
>student who makes everything work would like to have everybody's
>root password.  Says it would make his life simpler, and I believe it.
>But some people, possibly with memories longer than mine, wonder how
>secure that little list of his would be, and worry about the chance
>that somebody other than this one trusted grad student might get it,
>and start browsing their files.
>
>How do people play this one?
>-------
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>New York, NY 10031    212-650-6162
>DANCC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU      Internet
>DANCC@CUNYVM               BITNET
>DANCC%CUNYVM.BITNET_RELAY.FOR.CUNYVM.EDU  For gateway fans . . .
>(I _think_ one of these should work . . . )

   It's very simple.  If I don't have the root password to a machine, I
don't support it.  The machine and it's owner are on their own.  I keep
all my root passwords in an encrypted file so that I don't have to write
them down anywhere.  If you use a key that is reasonably difficult to
guess, there shouldn't be a problem.

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From: fwp@Jester.CC.MsState.Edu (Frank Peters)
Subject: Re: Solaris 2.0 to bundle C after all?
Organization: Computing Center, Mississippi State University
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 17:19:41 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.172850@thuja.gsfc.nasa.gov> karl@thuja.gsfc.nasa.gov (Karl A. Anderson) says:
>In SunFLASH v40n5, titled: "Making the Move to SOLARIS 2.0", the
>following appears under the heading "THE MIGRATION CHECKLIST":
>
>> 5) Select an ANSI C strategy.
>> -----------------------------
>> A C compiler that complies with the ANSI C  standard  will  be 
>> provided with  Solaris 2.0.  This compiler will make migration 
>> easier by offering varying degrees of ANSI compliance.  Customers
>> will be  able  to choose Common C, with no ANSI C compliance; accept
>> a mix of Common C and ANSI C constructs; or fully comply with ANSI
>> C, depending on their situation.
>
>Does this mean what I think it means?  Has Sun reconsidered their
>decision to unbundle the C compiler?  

Nope.  I suspect one of two things:

1) This paragraph was lifted verbatim from some documentation for the
   release currently available to software vendors.  Since the purpose
   of this release is to allow them to port their software in time for
   the FCS release it makes sense that this prerelease version would
   come with the unbundled compiler.

2) The writer was mistaken and really meant to say 'available for'
   instead of 'provided with'.

At any rate, as of late this week Sun had NOT changed their mind.

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From: todd@draco.macsch.com (Todd C. Williams)
Subject: Re: Sys admin have root access to user stations?
Organization: MacNeal-Schwendler Corp.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 02:39:55 GMT

In article <1992Apr2.221338.3417@cs.bham.ac.uk> axs@fat-controller.cs.bham.ac.uk (Aaron Sloman) writes:
>| In article <887@zeuswtc.sbi.com> mikeu@rocky.sbi.COM (Michael Urbanski) writes:
>
>| There is almost no reason for a user to have the root passwd
>| to their workstations.
>
>except for stupidities like not being able to correct the clock time

put rdate in cron, or run a network time daemon.


>or mount a floppy disk, etc. without it, to say nothing of the problems of
>trying out sample stuff distributed on CD rom...

get a user-runnable mounter program, like the one posted here recently.

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From: ben@it3.crl.mei.co.jp (Ben Reaves)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: du vs df mismatch: fixed
Date: 11 Apr 92 02:16:33 GMT
Organization: Matsushita Electric Industrial Co.,Ltd.


Thank you for your very helpful suggestions on how to fix the mismatch
in the reported usages between du and df.

I simply rebooted with fsck.  I had been rebooting without fsck.  fsck
found an unreferenced inode on that disk, and now the du and df
reported usages are much closer (though not exactly matched).

The problem had been that vi was giving me a "ran out of disk space"
error, so I checked the available space on /var (a separate file
filesystem).  df showed 7MB used.  I wanted to know where that was
being used, so I tried du but it reported only 0.6 MB used.  I rebooted
(fast boot, no fsck) and had the same problem.  Should have rebooted
with fsck.  One more for experience.

-Ben

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From: mlw@gator.rn.com (Mike Willig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: si: peek failed question
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:08:50 GMT
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site

Greetings all,

We're running SunOS 3.5 on a Sun 3/160. About
a week ago I noticed a message at the start of a
reboot...

>b

EEPROM boot device...sd(0,0,0)
si: peek failed
Load: sd(0,0,0)boot
si: peek failed
<<normal boot messages follow>>

Can anyone tell me what this message means?
It doesn't seem to be fatal, the Sun boots up
fine from there. But I'm curious as to what it
is and why it just started.

Thanks in advance!


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From: art@Cayman.COM (Art Mellor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: No graphics screen on my 3/60 (A virtual X server) HELP!
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:24:03 GMT
	<1992Apr15.163943.737@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: jel8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu's message of 15 Apr 92 16:39:43 GMT


I'm running 4.1.1 on my Sun3/60 and X11R5 built and ran the first time!
Are you running the correct server (i.e. Xmono if it isn't a color system)?
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From: marc@atmos.washington.edu (Marc Michelsen)
Subject: Re: Unmounting of busy HSFS filesys causes panic (WORKAROUND)
Organization: Dept. of Atmospheric Sciences, University of Washington
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 04:47:13 GMT

Patch-ID# 100539-01
Keywords: umount, hsfs, busy, panic, data, fault, filesystem
Synopsis: SunOS 4.1.2: umount of busy hsfs filesystem causes panic data fault
Date: 26/Mar/92

SunOS release: 4.1.2

Unbundled Product: 

Unbundled Release: 

Topic: umount of busy hsfs filesystem succeeds, eventually causing panic

BugId's fixed with this patch: 1085014

Architectures for which this patch is available: sun4, sun4c, sun4m

Patches which may conflict with this patch: 

Obsoleted by: 

Files included with this patch: hsfs_vfsops.o

Problem Description: 

In 4.1.2, a busy hsfs file system could be unmounted, eventually leading
to a panic when a vnode on the (now unmounted) file system was referenced.

Install Instructions: 

As root:

  mv /sys/`arch -k`/OBJ/hsfs_vfsops.o /sys/`arch -k`/OBJ/hsfs_vfsops.o_orig
  cp `arch -k`/hsfs_vfsops.o /sys/`arch -k`/OBJ
  chmod 444 /sys/`arch -k`/OBJ/hsfs_vfsops.o
 
  Then a new kernel will need to be made and installed.
  Please refer to the system and networking administration manual
  for creating and installing a custom kernel.


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From: cornell@inoc.dl.nec.com (Cornell Kinderknecht)
Subject: Re: 4.1.2 cron and daylight savings time
Reply-To: cornell@csl.dl.nec.com
Organization: NEC America, Internetwork Operations Center
Date:  6 Apr 92 18:18:40 GMT

karl@thuja.gsfc.nasa.gov (Karl A. Anderson) writes:

>In article <1992Apr5.201017.14981@cs.tulane.edu>, mb@cs.tulane.edu (Mark
>Benard) writes:
>|> Cron jobs on a Sun 670MP stopped running after the time change this
>|> morning. It looks like cron just forgot the crontab entries, because
>|> as soon as I editted the entries, cron starting running the jobs as
>|> specified. This happened with user news.  I am not sure about root,
>|> because there were no root jobs scheduled.
>|> 
>|> Did this happen elsewhere?  With SunOS 4.1.1?

>It happened to me also - 4.1.2.  My nightly network backup didn't go -
>seems like cron just "forgot".
>--

Yes, this happened to me last year also.  If you don't want to reboot,
you can get the jobs flowing again by doing a
	crontab -l | crontab


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From: fletcher@cs.utexas.edu (Fletcher Mattox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: etherfind vs. parentheses?
Date: 14 Apr 1992 19:21:57 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: ai.cs.utexas.edu

Is it my imagination or is the SunOS 4.1.1 etherfind parser broken?
Every attempt I've made to use parens in the expression has failed.
Even trivial expressions like:
 
	% etherfind \( src foo \)
	Using interface ie0
	etherfind: bad option or expression < ) >
	Usage: etherfind [-d] [-n] [-p] [-r] [-t] [-u] [-v] [-x]
		[-i interface] [-c cnt] [-l length] expression
	expressions are:
	       broadcast arp rarp ip decnet apple
	       dst src dstnet srcnet less greater proto srcport dstport byte
	       between host and or not
	%
From: arvidson@lagrange (John Arvidson  )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Mail won't recognize users : Fixed!
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:35:53 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins

Thanks for those of you who helped me out on this!  Replacing sendmail with
the one from 4.1.1 did the trick.   Thanks again,  John
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From: khoda@ptsun02.cern.ch (Arash Khodabandeh)
Newsgroups: ch.sun-managers,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.admin
Subject: how to get remote system messages
Date: 8 Apr 92 08:30:18 GMT
Organization: CERN, CH-1211 Geneva 23, Switzerland


Hi to all,

the question that I have is very simple. On a network of SUN SPARC station 2/IPX,
how the system administrator, who is working one of the SUNs, can get the
system messages that goes normaly to the console window of the other stations?

A solution would be to open a consol window by rsh and set the display on my
machine. But the problem with this solution is that if someboby open another
consol window, the second one override mine.

Does anybody have a better solution?

Last request, I would apreciate Emails, and I will post a summery in one week.

Thanks, merci et al.
A.

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From: kathy@xn.ll.mit.edu
Subject: Re: Solaris 2.0 to bundle C after all?
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory, Lexington, MA
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 22:49:58 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.172850@thuja.gsfc.nasa.gov> karl@thuja.gsfc.nasa.gov (Karl A. Anderson) writes:
>In SunFLASH v40n5, titled: "Making the Move to SOLARIS 2.0", the
>following appears under the heading "THE MIGRATION CHECKLIST":
>
>> 5) Select an ANSI C strategy.
>> -----------------------------
>> A C compiler that complies with the ANSI C  standard  will  be 
>> provided with  Solaris 2.0.  This compiler will make migration 
>> easier by offering varying degrees of ANSI compliance.  Customers
>> will be  able  to choose Common C, with no ANSI C compliance; accept
>> a mix of Common C and ANSI C constructs; or fully comply with ANSI
>> C, depending on their situation.
>
>Does this mean what I think it means?  Has Sun reconsidered their
>decision to unbundle the C compiler?  

No, I don't believe it does.  Sun gave a presentation here at Lincoln
Laboratory on 4/1 [which struck me as peculiarly appropriate], on 
upgrading to Solaris 2.0.  In between the bullsh*t about how the new
hardware will be cheaper by the cost of the compiler, so that users 
who don't need it are no longer forced to subsidize those of us who 
do, one of the sales people mentioned that the Sun C environment was
at least in part licensed from a 3rd party, which he claimed not to
remember with certainty, under an agreement which *explicitly forbade*
them from distributing it bundled with the OS free of charge.  That
makes a lot more sense to me than any of the pap they've been feeding
us in their official statements, as the likely *real* explanation.

There are still no plans to do anything for those of us with Sun3 systems
other than to tell us to buy hardware upgrades.  Has anyone heard 
rumors of a 3rd party licensing Solaris and porting it to the 680X0 
systems?  (I ask that hopefully, not because I've heard any such rumor).



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