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id <m0ms9KI-0001L1C@crash.cts.com>; Thu, 19 Nov 92 02: 41 PST
	id <kj08863@pro-harold.cts.com>; Thu, 19 Nov 92 02: 27 PST
	id <kj15926@pro-scat.cts.com>; Thu, 19 Nov 92 04: 25 EST
From: bslog@pro-scat.cts.com (Bill Logsdon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: CTS wars... :) (j/k!)
Date: 19 Nov 92 09:10:51 GMT
Organization: ProLine [pro-scat] St. Petersburg, Florida.


I have had the same problem (tested with PT3 and AnsiTerm).....

Basically, my GS will not properly support CTS..... but, install all my
junk in my buddies machine (also a Rom1) hook up my hard drives and boot
offa them, and guess what?  

IT WORKS ON HIS!!!!!

Doesn't make sense...... cept his mutherboard is bout 2 years newer than
mine.......
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: taob@r-node.gts.org (Brian Tao)
Subject: Re: Apple IIgs UUCP Inquiry
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX Information System (416-249-5366)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:26:21 GMT

In article <bclark.00xj@jupiter.chi.il.us> bclark@jupiter.chi.il.us (Brian Clark) writes:
>
>    This is an inquiry to find out who (if anyone) is currently, was at
>one time, or may at some time be working on porting UUCP to the Apple IIgs.

    Funny, I was browsing through our UUCP maps here and I came across this
very interesting entry:

#N      wizlair
#S      Apple //gs (Prodos-8); UUCP //gs v2.1a
#O      Wizard's Lair Private BBS
#C      Robert D. Greene
#E      rgreene@bnr.ca
#T
#P      9150 Fair Oaks #915, Dallas, Texas 75231
#L
#R      Wizlair is the development site for UUCP-//gs.
#R      Wizlair is moving to Dallas in early 1991. Please use the
#R      contact address <rgreene@bnr.ca> until that time.
#U
#W      rgreene@bnr.ca; Wed Jan 2, 1991

    Check your 'u.usa.tx.5' file for this entry.  I mailed the guy at that
address, but I don't think it is valid any more.  Anyone down in Dallas
want to try contacting this guy at his (I assume) home address?  Going by
the date of the entry, I would think he's been working on it for at most
two years now...
-- 
-- Real name: Brian Tao (Dept. of Exobiology, University of Toronto)
-- Preferred: 90taobri@chasm.scar.utoronto.ca (checked daily)
-- Alternate: taob@r-node.pci.on.ca (no mail over 15K, please!)
--                                   """""""""""""""""""""""""
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu (Jim Wong)
Subject: GS Setup (slots)
Organization: Rice University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 00:20:29 GMT

Is there any way I can connect a modem to my system without losing
access to my printer or hard disk?  My setup is as follows:

Slot     Control Panel Setting     Slot Contains        
1        Printer Port              <nothing>                
2        Your Card                 Apple High Speed SCSI    
3        80 Column Firmware        <nothing>                
4        Mouse                     <nothing>                
5        SmartPort                 <nothing>               
6        Drive Port                <nothing>       
7        AppleTalk                 MDIdeas Stero Card

Could I drop a serial card in one of my empty slots without losing access
to the functionality of the "internal" slot?
-- 
Jim Wong (jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu)
From: 90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: A+/InCider article:  ACK!
Date: 18 Nov 92 06:17:44 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Toronto (Scarborough) Computing Services

The following revelation escaped Jim Wong's lips:
>
> Intolerable?  Why? Simply because the author prefers System 7 to the
> GS' system 6?  Please explain.

    I wouldn't go so far as saying "intolerable", but at least Keizer
should have showed some objectivity in his review.  Granted, I have
*not* read the article, but I will do so at my earliest convenience.
However, knowing Keizer's past track record with writing about the Apple
II (especially in Compute! magazine), I can understand Stephen's
frustrations.  Macintosh System 7 is nice.  Apple IIGS System 6 is very
nice.  I'll bet Keizer compared System 7 running on a fast colour Mac II
with a big, fast hard drive and System 6 on a 2-meg, 2-floppy GS.
Again, conjecture on my part, but I think you get my drift.

> Wrong -- an Apple-written init called "ProDOS File System" lets you read
> ProDOS disks directly from the Mac desktop.  It's available free from
> ftp.apple.com.

    Doesn't come close to the functionality and integration of FST's.
FST's are one reason why I place GS/OS at the top of the personal
computer OS pile.

> According to "Tog on Interface", proportional scroll bars are more confusing
> for the new user than those that don't change size.  I don't much care
> either way.

    Tog isn't the end-all-be-all of interface gurus.  I personally find
the Macintosh static thumbs (*that's* the proper term ;-) more confusing
and counter-intuitive than the GS's.  All other GUI's as far as I know
have thumbs indicating the ratio of displayed content/total content.
Amiga Workbench, NeXTStep, most implementations of X Windows, etc.  I'd
love to find an INIT somewhere which fixes up the Mac scroll bars...
--
-=+ Brian Tao (taob@r-node.pci.on.ca, 90taobri@chasm.scar.utoronto.ca) +=-
                                   -=+=-
     -=+ MuGS: The Only Internet Mail Reader For The Apple IIGS! +=-

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: boylek@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Kevin J Boyle II)
Subject: Re: NEW GAME
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 06:17:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.030536.20735@cs.wisc.edu> empire@otto-man.cs.wisc.edu (Mike Mackay) writes:
>New game for apple ][ series.
>
>                                   ARTINIUS
>                          Quest for the Mithril Mask
> 
> 
> 
>Hello from Empire Games!
>     Care to play what will probably be the last "large" fantasy role playing
>game for the Apple II+, IIe, IIc and IIgs requiring only 64k memory and one 5
>1/4" disk drive?  The cost?  A mere $20, and you get 4 DOUBLE SIDED DISKS.
>Price includes tax and shipping!

     Are there plans for a GS specific version?

-Kevin

-- 
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|  Kevin J. Boyle II | Junior, Comp and Sys Engineering | Hell, yes!  I love |
|   boylek@rpi.edu   | Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute |  my APPLE IIGS!!!  |
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: swarde@unf6.unf.edu (Air Warden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Arkanoid II Level Files
Date: 18 Nov 92 08:12:02 GMT
Organization: University of North Florida, Jacksonville

Is there anyone out there who has some challenging Arkanoid II level files?
If so, please post them to comp.binaries.apple2 (hasn't been a whole lot of
traffic on that newsgroup lately anyway...)  I've gotten rather bored of the 
levels I have.

Thanks in advance!


Sean Warden                                     | ___       ___ 
Future Electrical Engineer/Particle Physicist   |  |   | /   |  "It's not a 
University of North Florida			| ( )  |<   ( ) frat, it's an
Internet:  swarde@unf6.cis.unf.edu              | _|_  | \  _|_ honor society!"
------------------------------------------------|------------------------------
Apple IIgs & TransWarp forever                  | "Drive Offensively; the life
>>>----FSU Seminoles--1992 ACC Champs----->	| you save may be your own."
From: marc@cxr_rs6000.med.ge.com (Marc Wolfgram)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Editors
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:35:11 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

David Empson writes:
>I use EdIt-16, from SSSi.  It supports 9 files (including a
>split-screen mode where you can view/edit two files at once).
>Unfortunately it is somewhat buggy (macro recording in particular), and
>hasn't been updated since its original release.
>One big advantage: you can customize all the keys.

EdIt-16 _has_ been upgraded to include support for ORCA 2.0 directory
structures (class 1 GS/OS paths) and the HFS FST.  Good luck in getting
it from SSSi though.  When I spoke with Bill Tudor last he was quite
unhappy with them.   We are trying to work out something with Bill to
get this most excellent editor back on the market in current form.

Marc Wolfgram
AOL: M Wolfgram   GEnie: M.WOLFGRAM2   inet: marc@cxr_rs6000.med.ge.com
There are two ways to write bug-free code and only the third one works!
From: hl00@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (HOU-SHENG LIN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Future of the II line (???)
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:35:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.1992Nov18.143542.135605
Organization: Lehigh University

Well, I've been following this thread for quite a while now... I always
thought a good way for the Apple II to really get somewhere would be to used a
different microprocessor, especially one that looks more like it's evolving.
I know, I know, most of you guys are immediately thinking of how Apple did
that to us with the Mac, but there are RISC chips out there that's suppose to
have programmable microcodes, in fact, it was said to be able to emulate the
68040/80486 at about 20 Mhz... a 20 Mhz gs sound great to me!  :)  But
seriously, I'm sure if we used it to emulate the 65816, it can probably go
faster.  Other than being compatible with the older softwares, one could
also make use of the RISC instructions (sort of like an assembly's assembly
so that programs would run even faster!)

Personally, I think if this was what Apple Inc had done, a lot more A2
users would have moved to the Macs (hmm, but then again, maybe not...)

-- 
-Sheng
hl00@pl122.eecs.lehigh.edu
hl00@m180k.cc.lehigh.edu
hl00@lehigh.edu
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Future of the II line (???)
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:48:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: mcl.uerics.722026111

My IIGS has needed only one repair, and the dealer seriously muffed it.
You'd switch on the machine and the keyboard buffer would instantly be
filled with "a"s.  It would never stop reading "a"s.  I took it all down
the the dealer and said "I think either the keyboard or the mouse is bad".
The fool:

(a) Couldn't get it to boot his 3.5" disk drive, so he replaced my logic
board (the reason for this was that I had no 3.5s at the time, so the CP
was set to boot slot 6).
(b) Told me to take my mouse home.  At this point, he saw no problems and
said it was fixed.

As soon as I hooked up the mouse, of course, the "a"s were back.  The fool
had never seen an ADB mouse before, and didn't realize it connected
through the same port as the keyboard.  Turns out the mouse was shorting
the lines.  Oh, yeah, the service tech. was fired the next day. :)

- Eric S.

--
Eric D. Shepherd                   | Apple II Alliance Charter Member
InterNet: uerics@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu  |           ACM Member
FidoNet:  1:206/2713 Eric Shepherd | Programming Law #1: "When in
AOL:      Sheppy                   | doubt, rewrite from scratch."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From:  ()
Subject: IIe System for sale!!!!!! ***CHEAP***
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2
Organization: Trinity College, Hartford, CT.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 00:38:05 GMT

FOR SALE...FOR SALE..FOR SALE..FOR SALE..FOR SALE..FOR SALE..FOR SALE..FOR
SALE..FOR SALE..FOR SALE..FOR SALE..FOR SALE..FOR SALE..FOR SALE..FOR
SALE..

$$$$ needed!

Selling:

                                     Apple IIe
                                     RGB monitor
                                     Duo Disk drive
                                     Image Writer II
                                     Hayes 300 modem (installed)
                                     Apple mouse
                                     Mach II joystick

Software is also included.
First best offer = SALE!

It served me well but now it must go......... CHEAP!!!!

Contact me directly:  padams@mail.trincoll.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
id <m0mskXH-0001U9C@crash.cts.com>; Fri, 20 Nov 92 18: 25 PST
	id <kk65344@pro-nbs.acme.fred.org>; Fri, 20 Nov 92 18: 09 PST
	id <kk66747@pro-gallup.cts.com>; Fri, 20 Nov 92 18: 32 MST
From: samp@pro-gallup.cts.com (Sam Pemberton - Sys Admin)
Subject: Re: BBS packages/replies
Organization: ProLine [pro-gallup]
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 18:30:26 MST

In <6V4guB2w165w@bluemoon.use.com>
djredick@bluemoon.use.com (Darrin J. Redick) writes:

>Well, what about those users who don't use UNIX (like me)?  I can't 
>justify spending $250 for something that I'm not going to use to the
>fullest.  ProLine would be worth it for me if I used UNIX, but I don't.

You don't need to justify spending $250 with the discount mail orders that
are available -- you can get it for around $130, including shipping.

Unix-like commands are available, but so is the ProLine User Shell--user
freindly, menu driven.  Morgan posted a detailed description earlier of
ProLine.  If you have a IIgs or enhanced //e and want to run a BBS, I
stongly recommend ProLine.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: david@cs.uow.edu.au (David E A Wilson)
Subject: Re: Smartport Questions
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:51:24 GMT

recker1763@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>How do I get the value for UnitNum in a SmartPort call from ProDOS 8?
>I want to issue a smartport call from the last used device?

Assuming a smartport card in slot 5 the mapping is as follows:

drive 1	-> S5,D1
      2 -> S5,D2
      3 -> S2,D1
      4 -> S2,D2

If smartport not in slot 5 or a disk card is in slot 2 then ignore lines 3 & 4
(and change S5 to the appropriate slot #).
If you are using P8 V2.x.y then drives over 2 (or 4 if in slot 5) will be re-
mapped into unused slots making it difficult to work out.
-- 
David Wilson				+61 42 213802 voice, +61 42 213262 fax
Dept Comp Sci, Uni of Wollongong	david@cs.uow.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: Many Monitors???
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 06:57:57 GMT

You can connect two RGB monitors to a IIgs by using a Video Overlay
card, but I don't know of any software that supports this combination.
The IIgs toolbox doesn't support multiple monitors, but you could do
something like have your normal desktop display on one monitor and a
Super Hi-Res picture on the other.
-- 
David Empson

Internet: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz    EMPSON_D@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Snail mail: P.O. Box 27-103, Wellington, New Zealand
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Roy Barrett)
Subject: Re: Future of the II line
Organization: Sheep Warehouse
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:18:25 GMT

Eric D. Shepherd (uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu) wrote:


: Where did you get the "news" that there would be no new major System
: Software releases?  I've never heard Apple say that (I don't expect them,
: but I've never heard Apple say there wouldn't be any).

Well, I've heard various sources, mostly stuff posted here by people who went
to KFest... Hmm, maybe some Apple people could clarify this?

---
=====================================
dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu #1@#31
=====================================

Roy Barrett... Yep, that's my name...

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jmk3@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Jay M. Krell)
Subject: Re: Smartport Questions
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:39:19 GMT

>From: recker1763@iscsvax.uni.edu
>Subject: Smartport Questions
 
>When each drive is given a unique number at initialization time (from the
>Firmware Ref.) is this number unique for each specific type of drive?
 
I think the numbers are assigned based on the configuration, not on the types
of drives. ie- the first drive is 1, 2nd is 2. I'm not sure about this though;
you should check the IIGS Firmware Rerefence to be sure, or one of the
other Tech Refs that document the Smartport.
5.25" drives are not Smartport devices, btw.
 
  --Jay, jay.krell@cornell.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: Fast modems and the SSC
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 07:44:56 GMT

Regarding the Super Serial Card, which uses a 6551:

The 6551 has two very nasty features with its flow control inputs.  If
the CTS input goes inactive, the transmit data signal is IMMEDIATELY
cut off.

The other feature is that while the DCD signal is false, the 6551 will
not receive any bytes.

The DSR input doesn't interfere with either receive or transmit
operation.

This usually means you should avoid using CTS: use DSR instead.  DCD
is practically useless, as if the modem turns off its carrier signal,
you won't be able to receive any bytes (i.e. no command-mode output).



The CMOS 6551 (65C51) is somewhat better: CTS cuts off the transmitter
after the current byte has been completely transmitted.  It has the
same behaviour for DCD.
Its other advantage is that disabling receive interrupts also disables
the DCD and DSR change of state interrupt.  This cannot be disabled on
the original 6551, which is why a IIe will usually hang if you unplug
the modem from the SSC while you aren't in a comms program.

BUT, I don't think you can simply replace a 6551 with a 65C51.  We
tried this in one of the products my company produces, and it didn't
work reliably, because the two chips expect different types of crystals.
-- 
David Empson

Internet: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz    EMPSON_D@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Snail mail: P.O. Box 27-103, Wellington, New Zealand
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: new Apple II mag
From: cxdb14@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu (RANDY)
Date: 21 Nov 92 16:42:06 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

Well I just got my new issue of Quality Computer's Enhance, and they have a
story about the new Apple II magazine they are going to start. It's called
II Alive, and they say it will start in 2/93. It says you get six issues
for $19.95, plus a video called "Celebrating the Magic" about II's. Sounds
pretty neat.
Randy
From: whitewolf@gnh-starport.cts.com (Tae Song)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Status of Apple IIGS Ethernet Card?
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:14:33 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Sat Nov 14 92 at 02:01:45 (EST)

> What speed is the 65816 on board? just a normal 2.8mhz 65816? or are these
> the 

It's rated for upto 4Mhz.
  
INET: whitewolf@gnh-starport.cts.com
UUCP: crash!gnh-starport!whitewolf
ARPA: crash!gnh-starport!whitewolf@nosc.mil
 AOL: Tae GS
From: gdesroch@slate.mines.colorado.edu (DESROCHERS GARY FREDERIC)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: DOS 3.3 FST
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:27:50 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons) writes:
: In article <1992Oct31.200717.20065@slate.mines.colorado.edu> gdesroch@slate.mines.colorado.edu (DESROCHERS GARY FREDERIC) writes:
: There should be no special stuff to worry about with DOS 3.3: you can
: use GetDirEntry just like with any other FST.
: 
: In fact, the Finder and Standard File do, so it's not like it hasn't
: been tested!
: 
: 
: >[...] I keep getting an error $53. [...]
: 
: Double check your values for base, displacement, name, and optionList (all
: of these are values or pointer that you supply before making the call).
: A common mistake is to leave the optionList point uninitialized, which
: can trash memory when the system uses it as a pointer to your buffer.
: 
: Here's a hunch:  Maybe you're setting the "base" parameter to some value
: other than $0000, $0001, or $0002.  From a quick glance at the source,
: it looks like DOS 3.3 gives you a $0053 error for any other value (which
: is fine), but that ProDOS and HFS don't complain (they treat it as one of
: the legal values).

     I am the same person that is discussing this with you on GEnie.  I
will take it up there.  You seem to respond faster there.:-) No. No. and
No. to your suggestions.

: 
: If that doesn't help, post your code!

    I would but since you are the only one responding to this it would be
useless to have you see it twice.  I will get you the 4 or five line code
that you asked for on GEnie.  (Still kinda curious why you needed me to
write 4 lines of code and 17 lines of data? Heck I could do it from memory
or just cut and past from the post on GEnie.;-) One open call and the data
needed and then one big "rtl" for a shell file and one "dc i2'0' " to break
into GSBUG.  But hey I am easy.)

: -- 
: David A. Lyons, Apple Computer, Inc.      |   DAL Systems
: Apple II System Software Engineer         |   P.O. Box 875
: Internet:dlyons@apple.com                 |   Cupertino, CA 95015-0875
: 
: My opinions are my own, not Apple's.
-- 
Gary F. Desrochers
gdesroch@slate.mines.colorado.edu
From: igor@charles.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: seeking advice on old floppy salvage
Date: 24 Nov 92 00:44:19 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Department of Music, UCDavis
Originator: igor@charles.ucdavis.edu


Hello, I'm posting here because I know this crowd is generally able-minded.
Also, the problem is with old 5.25" apple][ disks.  A friend has some in storage
which are years old, and says there's text on em that could be quite valuable
which is, absurdly, not backed up anywhere else.  The storage has been exposed
to varying degrees of cold and humidity/dryness... probably down to ~36 deg.
Farenheit.  
Does anyone have experience with this sort of delicate situation?  Should one
use one's own old drives under any circumstances (i.e. financial problems) to
try and recover what one can, after having cleaned and demagged the drives
as best as possible?  What are the very best materials and methods to use in
the maintenance of these old drives?  What are teh next best, since the best
are probably exorbitantly priced?  Are there any/many trustworthy and/or
affordable commercial services that'll do this sort of thing?
Thanks eternal for any/all response.  Email best.
From: Pauley@vnet.ibm.com (Paul Benson)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 11:52:46 EST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Solid red monitor screen
Organization: IBM Personal Computer Co. - PS/1 Development
Disclaimer: This posting represents my views, not necessarily IBM's.
News-Software: UReply 3.0

In <9211231450.AA00178@TIS.COM> Theodore Lee writes:
>has what is probably a simple failure.  As it starts to warm up you can
>see a complete picture.  As soon as it reaches full power the screen
>goes completely red.  (It's possible I can see there is a slight image

I had a similar problem with a TV I had.  It could be that your tube is
blown, but first I'd check if any xtors, resistors, or caps are
disfunctional which connect to the red gun.  My first guess would be a
blown xtor.  My problem was kind of weird in that a spark gap was bad.
Strange but true, but a replacement fixed the problem.

Pauley
GEnie: P.Benson1
From: fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Scanlines??
Date: 16 Nov 92 13:44:07 PST
Organization: BBS

>        There is video memory upgrade.  The FTA demos uses 320 x
>200 by 16 color or 256 colors.  The reason the look so good, is
>because they pay attention to detail.... and anitaliasing and such...

How did the FTA do those graphics anyway?  I mean, what paint program?  Or, do
they draw it one pixel at a time :)  Like I draw my little icons...

It seems most of the graphics in FTA demos were done by a guy named Olivier
Bailly Maitre ( such as Modulae, Bouncin' Ferno, NoiseTracker )...  I really
love this guys graphics!