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From: erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Re. Integrity
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 10:10:34 PDT
Organization: Reigning Cats and Dogs
Reply-To: erics@infoserv.com
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giovin@medr4.ecs.umass.edu (Rocky J Giovinazzo) writes:

> I'm obliged to point
> out something Eleanor ___ (from _Newsweek_) mentioned a few days ago.
> Apparently, the "media" consists of quite a lot of young people these
> days, and this, she says, may or may not contribute to a tendency of
> some organizations to report with a bias toward Clinton.

I'm not sure what the bias is that's being referred to, but the current
positive attitude toward Clinton in media reports is quite natural for
newly elected presidents. It's also quite natural for the media to become
increasingly critical of a president as time goes on, and I don't think
that Clinton will spared any of that criticism.

-----
Eric Smith
erics@infoserv.com
CI$: 70262,3610
From: pat@sphinx.phys.Virginia.EDU (pat walsh)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: The funny pages (was Re: Re. Integrity)
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:40:25 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia Physics Department

Maddi Hausmann writes:

>And, for another ObQ reference, which comic-strip character is the
>most like Danoe?  Like Calvin, he's caught in his own world (although
>Calvin does have signs of more intelligence on his favorite subjects).
>Like Bill, Jr. in the Family Circus, he's smug and expects the world
>to revolve around him.  Like Dennis, he'd rather play (football instead
>of golf) than hang around with girls.  And like Charlie Brown, he
>keeps trying to kick that football, and the audience keeps on laughing.

He's got Little Orphan Annie's eyes.  }8-)

- Patrick Walsh
  University of Virginia Department of Physics
  pw@virginia.bitnet, pw@virginia.edu, pat@gomez.phys.virginia.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Request
From: kmagnacca@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 22 Nov 92 00:52:46 EST
Organization: Wesleyan University



   Could someone please mail me the Quayle quotes file?

Karl
------
"Find a great ideal, a great purpose, marry it, and raise a family."
					 --Negativland, "U2"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: Re: Dan Quayle is a hero
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 07:16:12 GMT

In article <BxxA44.49p@acsu.buffalo.edu> v064mb7h@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Greg J Till) writes:
>post and give my hero Dan Quayle some support.  This genious...and political
>god if you will, gets nothing but criticism from the mass public and the 
>liberally controlled media.  Im here to say that I feel sorry for Dan Quayle,
>and dont think that he deserves half of the criticism that he gets.  The man
>is the greatest political mind in the White House, what he spells wrong in no
>way reflects his political stature.  Until these sharks who harp on spelling
>can correctly spell every word in the dictionary I wish to hear no more.  And
>god forbid the guy has some oppinions on family values.  SHOOT ME  I too believe
>that a two parent household is necessary for a childs welfare.  Lets look at 
>Dan's record....He has never lost an election before this one.  This reflects  
>my firm belief that he did nothing but help the Bush campaign, And the Bush 
>campaign did nothing but hurt him.  I hope we see Dan back in full force in 96'
>we need some conservatism guiding this country.

	Yeah, I feel sorry for idiots, too.  Why do you feel sorry for DQ?  
He is STUPID!  If he were smart, he wouldn't say 1/2 of the dumb things he 
does.  Bush (for better or for worse) is smart, and the still made that stupid
quote about Pearl Harbor Day being Sept 7.  Well, Danny boy has made quotes
that sound worse.  If you want a copy of the list, e-mail me.  I agree, the
fact that he can't spell potato on the spot has nothing to do with anything.
BUT, he did tell us that since there is H2O (yes trace amounts are there)
on Martian canals, we can breathe there.  Just because DQ has never lost an 
election doesn't mean that he is smart, either.  (he ran in INDIANA, for 
God's sake, have you been to Indiana, this is a state that is crazy for 
BOBBY KNIGHT)  I agree with his opinion that kids are better off in two 
parent households, it is just the way he attacked a totally fictional 
character to prove his point is hilarious.  He hurt the Bush campaign,
BTW, the reason Bush lost (besides "The Economy, Stupid") is because he 
pandered to the far right.  He used Dan Quayle as his very own "Pander 
Bear."  And many people voted against DQ, disliking the bottom half of the
ticket every bit as the top.  Now I'll get off the soapbox...


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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer)
Subject: Re: Dave Barry & Dan Quayle
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:36:14 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.032557.22932@netcom.com> madhaus@netcom.com (Maddi Hausmann) writes:
>sg@monsoon.com (Sunil Gupta) writes: >
>jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer) writes: >>
>>
>>> John Switzer               | "If you ask me, Larry, the Clinton Presidency
>>>                            | has failed. What has he done? Nothing!"
>>> CompuServe: 74076,1250     | --Dave Barry to Larry King, November 12, 1992
>>> Internet: jrs@netcom.com   | (P.S. Impeach Clinton, support the coup!)
>>
>>This may be obscure, to say the least, but be aware that clever net users
>>can take advantage of their brains to understand that Dave Barry was
>>making *A Joke*; this along with killfiles may serve to nullify the
>>humor-impaired.
>
>And boy, do we a.f.d-q'ers know that the True Dan Fans are humor-impaired.
>
>Over on a.f.dave-barry, Mr. Switzer posits that amazing hypothesis that
>the Davester voted for Bush.  He used the quote above as his proof.  I
>should remind Mr. Switzer what Dave Barry had to say about Our Man Dan.
>I don't have the exact quote, but it was long the lines of:

I LOVE it! You guys are so intent on spewing your venom on anyone or anything
that even comes close to liking Dan Quayle that you lie and misquote with
wild abandon, and you don't even bother to hide it. I also love how you
claim Dan Quayle fans don't have a sense of humor, but then you show 
how clueless you are by failing to show that you can pick up even on the 
most obvious satire!

What I said in a.f.d-b was not what YOU claim I said but that I was curious
as to how Barry voted; this was simply because Barry skewered each of the 
three main candidates, but saved his main barbs for Clinton. And of course,
Dave has said numerous times "I'll keep Dan Quayle." 

Let me translate that for you, Maddi, since you seem incapable of understanding
any humor except that which mirrors your own in its venom and vindictiveness - 
Barry would keep Quayle because he protected Bush against assassination. This 
is why Barry said he would revise the Constitution (with crayon) to make 
Quayle the permanent Veep. 

Well, I understand why you guys are so hysterically intent (pun intended) on
attacking Quayle - this is all you can do, and you don't have much time left
to do it. But if you're going to lie and misquote, at least have the courtesy
to hide it a bit.
-- 
John Switzer               | "If you ask me, Larry, the Clinton Presidency
                           | has failed. What has he done? Nothing!"
CompuServe: 74076,1250     | --Dave Barry to Larry King, November 12, 1992
Internet: jrs@netcom.com   | (P.S. Impeach Clinton, support the coup!)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:19:36 EST
From: Kurt Ludwick <KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Actual Dan Quayle Interview
 <1992Nov13.152157.25606@uts.cc.wayne.edu> <Bxo46t.9un@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>

In article <Bxo46t.9un@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
says:

>I called KEL111 a jerk because he has been acting like one.  It's not because
>of his politics, but because he attacked one of the best posters with the
>ridiculous suggestion that she must be new here, because she is using the
>newsgroup for the purpose it was intended for.  A twit who crawled out of the

I know it was ridiculous; I was simply giving her some of what she was
dishing out.  Sorry for being so unfair.

>woodwork only a few days ago and doesn't understand what the group is for has
>no business calling anyone else a newbie.

I've been here for several months; where were you?

>KEL111 is.  As I have stated above, he thinks that someone who uses the group
>for its intended purpose (pointing out the veep's foolishness) must be new
>and clueless.

I don't recognize that there is any one "intended purpose" for the group.
If there originally was one, it is no longer valid.  That's how the net
works: it's just anarchy.  Enjoy.

------------
Kurt Ludwick
------------
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: erics@sco.COM (eric smith)
Subject: Re: The real Dan Quayle
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:24:30 GMT


sieferme@stein.u.washington.edu (Eric Sieferman) writes:

>The vast majority of REPUBLICANS at the RepubliCon Convention
>wanted the Bushman to dump Our Boy in favor of a real candidate.
>To George's loss (and the nation's gain), he kept Dannikins.

I believe that George would have dumped Dan in an instant if he thought
he could do it without appearing desperate, disloyal, and totally
motivated by political concerns. The only thing that saved Dan was that
polls showed higher negatives for dumping him than keeping him. Yes,
George's first "presidential" appointment, his reckless moment of
independence from all of Reagan's and his own advisors in 1988, came
back to haunt him in a terrible lose-lose scenario in 1992.

-----
Eric Smith	    | "My friends, no matter how rough the road may be,
erics@sco.com	    |	we can and we will, never, never surrender
erics@infoserv.com  |	to what is right."
CI$: 70262,3610	    |		- J. Danforth Quayle
 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: ronwill@sierra.sim.es.com (Ron Williams)
Subject: Re: The real Dan Quayle
Reply-To: ronwill@sierra.sim.es.com (Ron Williams)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:57:39 GMT

In article <crb2.722101553@Ra.MsState.Edu>, crb2@Ra.MsState.Edu (Chad R. Berthelson) writes:
>
> Don't underestimate the gullability and naivity of the voter.
> 

That's for sure!!  Consider the election of President "I'll cut taxes, 
increase spending, and balance the budget" Reagan.  And more recently 
there was the election of President "I'm the environmental and 
educational candidate" Bush.

-- 
Ron Williams
ronwill@sierra.sim.es.com
Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Salt Lake City, UT

	Just say noe to Bush/Quayle.

	Thank God, the country did.

Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.elections,talk.politics.misc
From: dmeier@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Douglas Meier)
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.loathing.bob-dole
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:10:34 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.153143.22236@babbage.ece.uc.edu> rbd@flash.ece.uc.edu (Bobby Davis) writes:
>Douglas Meier writes:
>>(Bobby Davis) writes:
>>>Yeah, I saw an interview with him on McNeil-Lehrer a couple of days after
>>>the election and all he kept saying was "57% of the country voted against
>>>Clinton, 57% of the country voted against Clinton, 57% of the country..."
>>>(you get the idea).  Doley wanna cracker? - a parrot who knows seven words
>>>is pretty impressive!  Somehow no one thought to mention to him that 62% of
>>>the country voted against Bush.
>>>
>>I find it particularly sad that you people (no offense intended) think
>                                 --------------------------------
>
>Doesn't bother me, but then I am not in the NAACP either.
>
It also was offensive when Perot used the term "you people" in his awesome (I
personally don't care for Perot, but the speech was great) flogging of the
news media for bias above and beyond the call of duty.

>>everyone was voting *against* one person in the pack.  Could it be that people
>>voted FOR candidates because they thought one was going to do the best job? 
>
>Although I voted for Paul Tsongas in our state primary, I voted for Clinton,
>not against Bush, on November 3.  My point is that if Dole wants to use this
>"reasoning," someone should point out to him what it means regarding Bush.
>
Thanks for proving my point that no one has a mandate or an anti-mandate. 
Like I said, Dole had better learn a little diplomacy or he will quickly
become a political dinosaur.  Sad end for a man with as much potential as Dole
has. (Last statement an opinion only, your mileage may vary.)


-- 
Douglas C. Meier		|  Read the Democratic party platform, then       
Northwestern University, ACNS 	|  the 1933 Nazi Germany platform.  Now note 
This University is too Commie-	|  the similarities.
Lib Pinko to have these views.	|  dmeier@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Re. Integrity
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:46:14 GMT

In article <carlson.722007837@cwis> carlson@cwis.unomaha.edu (Brian D. Carlson) writes:
)
)	BTW I am a conservative, and I know why I am a conservative. My
)parents are both liberals. The majority of my family are liberals.

For me, it's the opposite.  When my parents find out I'm pro-choice, the shit
is going to hit the fan...

)just don't agree with the idea that the state is the answer to all our
)problems.

This isn't really a fair description of liberals... many of us want the
government to stop interfering in our lives.  It is the conservatives who are
trying to increase the power of government by allowing them to regulate
morality.

)	The one thing I don't understand is this. If liberalism is the
)ultimate anser to all of our countries ills, why are the majority of
)liberals I have met bitter and seemingly miserable people, while the
)majority of conservatives I have met are easy going people who seem much
)more happy with who they are in life?

several possibilities:

  1.  Too small a sample size.  If you know 6 people including two depressed
      liberals, one happy liberal, one bitter conservative, and two happy
      conservatives, it proves... nothing.  If you've interviewed ten
      thousand people, and those proportions hold, you may have a point.

  2.  We've had a lot to be depressed about, with 12 years of Reagan and 
      Bush.  You might see some changes when Clinton takes over.  Life will
      be improved, and we can be happy, while conservatives will be 
      depressed.
-- 
SICKNESS IS HEALTH
 MADNESS IS WISDOM                 | hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
DRINKING IS STRENGTH               | WWIVNet 1@2750  WWIVLink 1@12754
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.elections,talk.politics.misc
From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.loathing.bob-dole
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:48:13 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.053547.984@news.acns.nwu.edu> dmeier@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Douglas Meier) writes:
)-- 
)Douglas C. Meier		| Read the Democratic party platform, then      
)Northwestern University, ACNS 	| the 1933 Nazi Germany platform.  Now note 
)This University is too Commie-	| the similarities.

Such as?

Hitler was strongly anti-abortion, btw... which party takes that same
position?
-- 
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 MADNESS IS WISDOM                 | hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: htuttle@nyx.cs.du.edu (Harry Tuttle)
Subject: Re: Mr. Stupid Goes to Washington
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 01:56:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.192608.3585@pellns.alleg.edu> paT bUcHAnaN writes:
>In article <97733@netnews.upenn.edu> weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matth
w  
>P Wiener) writes:
>> I saw a new novel with the above title in the bookstore.  The jacket
>> says it's about--of all things--a somewhat clueless and inexperienced
>> rich newspaperman's son who ends up as US Vice President.  The book
>> has a disclaimer that the characters in the novel are completely
>> fictional, and any similarity between them and anyone living or dead
>> is just a coincidence.  The disclaimer then says "but if the shoe fits

>> wear it".
>> -- 
>> -Matthew P Wiener (weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu) "[George Bush] is a m
n
>>  who was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple." --Jim Hightow
r
>
>They should make a book on how a draft-dodging, dope smoking, skirt  
>chasing "man" made it all the way to be President.  Fictional of course.
>
>*****When I was growing up, I was told that anyone could become Presiden
.   
>I'm beginning to believe it.*****



Ah, yes.  The fine intellect of Mr.  paT bUcHAnaN strikes again.
Tell me, paT, is that your real name, or are you too embarassed
to own up to your woefully lame posts?

Compared to me, you look very pitiable indeed.  Yes, I am baiting you. 
I imagine you will fall for it.  It's almost too easy...

Anyway, here's a little humor tip for you, paT.  If you are going to
write a witty retort, make sure that it is funny.  It also helps 
if the joke hasn't been beaten into the ground.  I mean, you wouldn't
see me making any potatoe jokes, now would you?  

I guess that's the difference between us, Mr. bUcHAnaN.  


Harry "Tomatoe" Tuttle


Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich)
Subject: Re: If Marilyn has only one life to live...
Organization: LLNL
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:49:48 GMT

In article <92317.212906KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> Kurt Ludwick <KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.140144.2505@gvl.unisys.com>, train@gvls2.gvl.unisys.com
>(Herbert Rutledge) says:
>
:  Well, I paid as much attention as anyone laughing hysterically  possibly
:  could.  Marilyn veritably foamed at the mouth as she fulminated against the
:  '60s.  It was definitely the funniest speech of the entire convention.
:  Sample:  "Not all of us dodged the draft."  Remember, this is from Marilyn
>
>I'm sorry, you're right.  I'm a fool.  How HATEFUL she is!  She's a FASCIST!

	I'm glad you agree. :-)

:  Her rantings to the effect that there were some women who did not want
:  to deny their essential nature as women was one of a piece with the
:  orchestrated attacks on Hillary Clinton prior to the convention that
:  culminated on the opening night.  Marilyn didn't need to denounce Hillary
>
>Yep, there it is.  You are saying that though she didn't come out with it,
>you could -infer- that Marilyn was saying "We must HATE all working mothers!
>They are -evil-!"  ...or something to that effect, I'm exaggerating of course.

	She didn't say so in those precise words, but she _did_ imply
that a woman with a career was somehow rejecting her "essential nature
as a woman".

	She herself is a good counterexample, since she has not stayed
home and baked cookies, but assisted our favorite Veep in his
political career.

>Again, how blatantly obvious!  Though nothing she said resembled what you
>inferred, it's still obvious it's what she meant!  Never mind what she actually
>said, right?

>I recal something more like, we must not ridicule those women who choose to
>stay at home and raise their children.  There's no way this implies hatred
>for working mothers.

	Even if what that _was_ what she meant, she should not have
slurred any woman who derives any satisfaction out of being something
other than a glorified nursemaid.

	And slur she did, by implying that it was against a woman's
"essential nature".

	And she has demonstrated blatant hypocrisy by supporting her
husband's political career and not being a good housewife and staying
home and baking cookies.

Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: train@gvls2.gvl.unisys.com (Herbert Rutledge)
Subject: Re: Right-Wing Token-Ring Network?
Organization: Paramax Systems Corporation, Paoli PA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:02:47 GMT

  A thought on the RRWTRN.


In article <1992Nov16.133504.1875@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu>, sab@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes:
 
|>                        There is a Rabid Right-Wing Token-Ring
|> Network(tm) in existence.  The brain (a la Myra) is the token and it
|> works in a manner analogous to an insect's brain -- it's
|> inhibitory.  When a poster has the token|brain, he's silent and the
|> rest of the RRWTRN post.  This hypothesis explains the absence of
|> thought, the repetitive posts, the alternating and pseudo-random
|> order of the posts, etc.


  The brain in use is not just merely analogous to an insect's brain, it
  *is* an insect's brain, specifically, that of a moth.  This explains 
  their attraction to flames.



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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: Re: Mr. Stupid Goes to Washington
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:35:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.192608.3585@pellns.alleg.edu> paT bUcHAnaN writes:
>In article <97733@netnews.upenn.edu> weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew  
>P Wiener) writes:
>> I saw a new novel with the above title in the bookstore.  The jacket
>> says it's about--of all things--a somewhat clueless and inexperienced
>> rich newspaperman's son who ends up as US Vice President.  The book
>> has a disclaimer that the characters in the novel are completely
>> fictional, and any similarity between them and anyone living or dead
>> is just a coincidence.  The disclaimer then says "but if the shoe fits,
>> wear it".
>> -- 
>> -Matthew P Wiener (weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu) "[George Bush] is a man
>>  who was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple." --Jim Hightower
>
>They should make a book on how a draft-dodging, dope smoking, skirt  
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^  ^^^^^^^^^^^^  ^^^^^
>chasing "man" made it all the way to be President.  Fictional of course.
^^^^^^^^  ^^^
>
>*****When I was growing up, I was told that anyone could become President.   
>I'm beginning to believe it.*****

	Hey paT, first of all, learn to capitalize.  Then,

	1) DQ isn't president, and he DID dodge the draft.

	2) Do you drink?

	3) Don't you like members of the opposite sex?  And if not, do you like
	members of your own sex?  If both answers are no, they you are WEIRD.

	4) Is DQ perfect?  Is GHWB perfect.  Pat Buchanan isn't perfect.
		And neither are you.


-- 
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