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From: feit@acsu.buffalo.edu (Elissa Feit)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: PEARL JAM
Date: 22 Nov 92 21:34:33 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

In article <Qf3JF6S00WBOA5xtEE@andrew.cmu.edu> mr4q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael E. Rush) writes:
>Yeah, those 70 groups, like that Led Zeppelin group, they really are terrible.

I think the point is not that the groups from the 60s and 70s suck, but that
the novelty has, shall we say, worn off.

I was 9 when my sister got Led Zeppelin's first album. That was almost
23 years ago... I'd say the novelty has worn off... The point being made
over and over in this discussion is simply that PJ is not especially
innovative. Period.  Does this mean they suck? No. Does it mean that
they fall short of "greatness"?  Yes. To be "great" you have to be
innovative.

Elissa Feit (feit@cs.buffalo.edu // {rutgers,uunet}!cs.buffalo.edu!feit)
I wanna die just like Jesus Christ, I wanna die on a bed of spikes 
                                     - Jesus and Mary Chain
Xref: sparky alt.music.alternative:16012 alt.rave:5119
From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B))
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,alt.rave
Subject: Re: Meat Beat Manifesto Concert Info...
Date: 21 Nov 1992 09:59:18 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Nov19.172447.16883@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> ccpoabt!dan@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US writes:
>Out here in California, I heard that MBM is touring with 808 State and
>thought that to be quite an interesting combination: Industrial and
>Techno.  Now that I see the above combination of MBM with rave bands, I
>wonder if the new MBM album has such influences?  I sure hope not.  I
>personally had hoped that we'd lost this rave crap for good.

Yeah, don't worry, like the uk-ravers say, rave is dead.  

Say, weren't you the one who moshed into me last night at the MBM/Orbital/
Ultramarine show?  If so I've got a hospital bill I'd like ya to see...

	Brian

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"It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye!" - Howard Berkey
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: olivier@everest.ee.umn.edu (Olivier Meirhaeghe)
Subject: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE(VU, Kids, record stores)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, EE dept.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:52:19 GMT

Alternative music: nothing really..a few interesting bands, and a billions
boring bands finding shelter under the "alternative" label. I think Mediocre
is the right answer to alternative , mostly a bunch of never-grown up kids
that try to digest-and-serve old influences. Alternative music could also
be seen as "commercial music for pseudo-cool people with a pseudo-cool
attitude". Tell you what , dont lose your time getting into alternative.

basically the wrong thing with 14  year old kids listening to that, it's
that 14 year old kids are still kids, and get influenced easily and that
sort of things. that's why. I like alternative music like i like pee-wee
herman , i.e. not in a serious way. i dont think alternative is a very
bright side of the world. Ok , i know, some people like self-destruction
why dont they simply take a gun and shoot themselves ?
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: FLYING NUN discography
From: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 23 Nov 1992 18:00:57 GMT
Reply-To: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ
NNTP-Posting-Host: blade.wcc.govt.nz


In article <By5Kop.13y@comp.vuw.ac.nz>, Damon.Lynch@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Damon Lynch) writes:
>                                                                             
>CATALOGUE SUMMARY OF FLYING NUN RECORDS

Also excluded but available: Indie


The Clear - live Stomach

Lung - Cactii

Psdedopoduia - Palmerston North artists complilation Rake, Froithead
and others.

--
Red

In the STATES they've set up a deprogramming centre where you can take
your derranged punk child or metal kid. And how you deal with it when
they start getting posters or acting strange. If you start listening
to this music they've got centres where they take you to get deprogrammed.
That'll happen in New Zealand you know.

Brett (skinhead) Toxic Avengers, New Plymouth.
From Bill Paynes book - Staunch



Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: pverkai@cs.vu.nl (Verkaik PD)
Subject: Re: LUSH LYRICS
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 10:44:49 GMT

lees@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Sang T Lee) writes:
: 
: In article <1992Nov18.183532.13574@mtu.edu> Matt Latourette <mtlatour@mathlab.mtu.edu>  writes:
: 
: >Title says it all. Anyone got 'em? I bought Lush "Spooky" and was very  
: >disappointed to open it up and find yet another music album without  
: >lyrics. I posted a while back and got zero replies. I searched around with  
: >Gopher and couldn't find someplace to ftp it.
: 
: Here are the lyrics for "Nothing Natural",  I have lyrics to other songs
: on SCAR, MADLOVE, and GALA, 

Thanks alot! Could you please post your other lyrics too?

: I'll try the other tracks on SPOOKY soon.

If you need any help, please let me know...

Patrick
From: tedr@athena.cs.uga.edu (Ted Kalivoda)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Need a band name? I've got one...
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:43:25 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <ML5SBKMC@cc.swarthmore.edu> sepstei1@cc.swarthmore.edu (stephen epstein) writes:
>In article <1e14l6INN9rg@agate.berkeley.edu>, tcronin@ocf.berkeley.edu (Tom
>Cronin) writes:
>> 

Deletion of sicko names...

what about:
		Sinatra's Nostrils

			Debit Album Title:  "Old Big Nose"


ted K
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:50:32 EST
From: <CXC225@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: daniel ash

Has anyone heard the new daniel ash album? It came out last tuesday and I think
 its a lot better than his last album.  Any opinions?
From: v462etnn@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (David L Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Info wanted about an obscure New Order song
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:40:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov23.151718.17730@husc3.harvard.edu>, spanagel@husc11.harvard.edu (David Spanagel) writes...
> 
>Help! Ever since 1985 I have seen a song titled "Let's Go" on New Order
>bootlegs. I assumed that it was just an early version of some song
>they recorded later - especially since NO frequently give songs "working"
>titles that are changed after they are recorded. But... just the other
>day I saw a bootleg claiming to have the studio version of "Let's Go",
>supposedly recorded in 1987. So does anybody out there got the straight
>dope about this song? Is it worth forking ~10 bucks over for?

There's a discussion in the Ceremony mailing group about the quality of that
bootleg.  Officially, there is no version with lyrics.  It appeared on the
soundtrack for Salvation! w/out lyrics.  One w/ lyrics is indeed a bootleg.
Having not heard either version, I can't speak for it.  Some say that all
work on the Salvation! soundtrack (aside from Touched...) is sub-par.  Others
think it's excellent.

Subscribe to the list for more info.  Ceremony@iastate.edu.

David Anderson
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: mcadamw@coch5.alleg.edu (William McAdams)
Subject: Re: Has anyone heard the latest SUGAR
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:41:22 GMT

In article <900420p.23.721925370@ace.acadiau.ca> 900420p@ace.acadiau.ca  
(GRANT MICHAEL POTTER) writes:
>      Has anyone heard the latest release by Sugar.  I heard a few tracks  
off 
> it which I really liked.  What do you have to say about it?
> 
It's great, go buy it now. My fave songs "A Good Idea"- Bob Mould's
Pixies tribute, and "If I Can't Change Your Mind"- brilliant concise pop  
song- Mould's "Flamenco" style strumming reminds me of Townshend's guitar  
work. There are really no duds on the album.  

BILL
From: kbennett@sumax.seattleu.edu ( Slacker Goddess)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Sugar/Throwing Muses/Boo Radleys Concert, Seattle -- Comments
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:24:49 GMT
Organization: Seattle University

Certainly agree with everything The Man With No Name said.  From where I
was, I could see the heads of the first three rows bouncing energetically
back and forth, but it's hard to really slamdance in theater seats, I
suppose  :)  And yes, I wore earplugs too (well, I'd forgotten my
earplugs, so I had to resort to toilet paper, but it at least cut out the
most painful ear-ringing).

Thanks for the comments.

Lena
      kbennett@sumax.seattleu.edu

      "My writing/like tiny insects/in the palm of history"
                            -- Thomas Dolby, "Dissidents"

      "My home town, it's more than a town to me
      it's more than plain, it's a city of pain,
      it's one big factory!"
                           -- Mark Mothersbaugh



Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: 21329KS@MSU
Subject: Re: 95 Jesus & Mary Chain Mailing List
Organization: Michigan State University
Date: 16 Nov 1992 20:56:56 EST

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
                 [(someone @psuvm.psu.edu writes)
[Does anyone happen to know the mailing list of Jesus and Mary Chain.??
[If not, then I am looking for people to start a new one...
[                   Thanks a Lot ....

     I don't know of one. But I will start one.
     Anyone interested send me mail and I'll get the ball rolling.
From: trkisa@uta.fi (Kimmo S{{skilahti)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: The Boo Radleys
Date: 21 Nov 92 08:53:22 GMT
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

In <1992Nov19.120546.1536@dct.ac.uk> mctsrj@dct.ac.uk writes:

*So where is the discussion about the supreme excellence of
*The Boo Radleys?

I guess their genius leaves nothing to be discussed... :-)

*To anyone who hasn't heard them, you could do worse than buy 
*any of their last four singles as an introduction, or even
*the Everything's Alright Forever album (Creation).

Indeed!  The album is absolutely one of the best albums of the
year from the genre.

*Listening to the first album (Ichabod and I)  you get the
*feeling of a band with talent just waiting for the resources to
*realise their musical aims.  They are now doing it.

Does anyone know if the first album is still available?

Kimmo


-- 
"MTV is not about music, it's about             Kimmo Saaskilahti
 women in their underwear."                     trkisa@uta.fi
 - Mark E. Smith

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: reil0766@mach1.wlu.ca (reilly derek)
Subject: Re: It's time to eat peanuts for alt.michael-bolton.die.die.die
Summary: Laurie Anderson's been bugging me lately 
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 07:27:44 GMT

		There was a time in my life when I ate tropical fruit with 
interesting people in the sunshine, on acid, while listening to 
laurie anderson

		I wouldn't wish such a fate on the slimiest of us but I do have
a pressing request. The tropical fruit has long since rotted, my brain has long since fried, and the interesting people are long gone...

BUT REMNANTS OF SOME GOD DAMNED LAURIE ANDERSON LYRIC PICK AT MY MIND     
LIKE SEAGULLS AT A TRASH HEAP

		Would some kind soul please fill in the blanks to this cursed
lyric so that I can mutate in peace? 

HERE IT IS:

" Que es mas macho: ________  ou knife? "

				Thanks billions and billions,
									Flippo the Wonder Dolphin  
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:15:01 -0500 
From: "Nathan J. Nagel" <nn22+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: where does punk and hardcore fit into this
	<1992Nov19.072327.858@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au>

	I like punk.  I like lots of other music.  Maybe if cetain people
listened to a little more punk they would realize the value of an open
mind,

-Nate
From: jens_alfke@gateway.qm.apple.com (Jens Alfke)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Live Ride (Re: POLL RESULTS)
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:06:19 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
X-Xxdate: Mon, 23 Nov 92 21:07:17 GMT
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7368805C102140E@jensmac.apple.com>

In article <98689@netnews.upenn.edu> Sang T Lee,
lees@eniac.seas.upenn.edu writes:
>I enjoy
>Ride very much,  never have seen them live yet, but I couldn't 
>imagine their type of music being the BEST live performance...

Ride are *damn* good live. I'd say they rank among the top live bands
I've seen for sheer sweaty intensity. (Too bad their latest album
sucked...) I keep managing to miss MBV on tour, so can't compare.

--Jens Alfke
  (I smell Esther Williams)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: mtl2001@andy.bgsu.edu (Matchew)
Subject: PERRY FERREL ON FOX-TV
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Organization: bgsu
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:35:58 GMT

has anyone else caught this???
sunday nights on fox, perry sings the theme song for some litle high school
                    
   melodrama.
seven o'clock, i think.
is this perry alone, some jane's bootleg i haven't heard, or POP?
				the drums are unmistakably perry f-esque (i know that he sings)
               (my guess is POP)
so what the hell is up with perry?
     does he need more heroin $ or what?
doing show-tunes is not the way i'd hope he'd go.
From: mcsdc1al@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Suede
Date: 23 Nov 92 10:33:31 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <1992Nov22.110600.14771@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>, c60a-it@danube.Berkeley.EDU (The Trashcan Sinatra (Amit Sahai)) writes:
> In article <1992Nov22.005554.29614@panix.com> nancyw@panix.com (Nancy Weiner) writes:
>>anyone else here know the group "suede" I think they are the best thing
>>out of the UK or anywhere since the smiths.  
> 
> 	Yes! Suede is truly awesome.
> 	I have only heard two songs: "Insatiable One" and
> 			             "Metal Mickey" (sp)
> 
> 		They are both incredible.
> 
> I know they have a single (3 songs including Metal Mickey) out, but
> it's quite expensive.. Anyone know when they'll have a full fledged
> album out, or the names of any other Suede songs?
> 
> "She's sooo hot.. She's sooo (??fake??)..  She's driving me mad!"
>             				(from Metal Mickey)
> 
> -Amit Sahai
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Amit Sahai: amits@cory.berkeley.edu
>    "We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!" :)

Er..."She's so hot..she's so fake"??????
'Fraid not Amit.  The chorus goes:
    "She sells heart/She sells meat
    "Look dad, she's driving me mad/Come see".

The Suede album will be out in February 1993 and the provisional track listing
is:
   1.Animal Lover
   2.He's Dead
   3.My Insatiable One
   4.Dolly
   5.Animal Nitrate

   1.Moving
   2.Metal Mickey
   3.The Drowners
   4.Painted People
   5.Sleeping Pills

It is either going to be called "Animal Lover" or "Suede".  There will be a new
single out just before the LP, probably "Animal Lovor" Sleeping Pills".
    And yes, they are f***ing brilliant, simply the best thing since sliced
carrots and undoubtedly stars of the future.

*Lucas*

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: gdebelle@athena.mit.edu (Guy L Debelle)
Subject: Grunge - it's NOT new
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:33:37 GMT

All this stuff about grunge originating in Seattle just ain't so.

We've had grunge bands in Australia since the early-mid 80s, and it was called
grunge too.  Bands like the Cosmic Psychos, Exploding White Mice, Grong Grong,
even Lubricated Goat  all fit into the grunge genre and there's plenty more
I've forgotten.  

Hell, the local label in Adelaide, Greasy Pop Records, was grunge city.

Guy
An Oasis in a Desert of Noise

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,alt.flame
From: micah@stein.u.washington.edu (Micah Anderson)
Subject: Re: Has anyone heard the latest SUGAR
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 04:03:59 GMT

tbigham@shearson.com (Tim Bigham) writes:

>In article <Kane.47.0@Xanadu.com> Kane@Xanadu.com (Charles Foster Kane) writes:
>>i think after too long of a time bob mould's
>>>time has come.  his music is actually being played and recognized somewhere
>>>outside of mpls.  where we have known ever since husker do what a great
>>>talent he is.  yes we're way ahead of it all, but isn't that always the
>>>case?
>>
>>take Zen Arcade, New Day Rising and Candy Apple Gray any day. Minn. is a 
>>really nice place, I'd love to live there someday but to us here in 
>>Philadelphia and New York Minneapolis is considered "nowhere" as opposed to "
>>way ahead of it all".


>One clarification to the above flame. Minneapolis IS way ahead of New York 
>in a few categories, namely: 

>		- snow accumulation
>		- days below freezing
>		- travel time to the beach

>Sure, Minneapolis is a nice place but, the air's too clean and there's just
>not enough crime.

>Reporting from Downtown Manhattan,
>Tim

>--
>Timothy J. Bigham			| All opinions expressed above are my own

I used to live there and would love to move back... Minnesota is one
of the midwest states that has REAL seaons (snow and cold in winter,
hot and humid in summer, wet in spring, thunderstorms and tornados in
fall... Its also a very pretty place and solitary... Seattle
sucks comparativly...

THis IS a music group though, so lets halt this (yes, I know I contributed..)
Micah
From: U46837@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: songs with the name "judy" in them
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:06:36 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

In article <H57SB1T7@cc.swarthmore.edu>, sepstei1@cc.swarthmore.edu (stephen
epstein) says:
>
>I'm making a birthday tape for a friend of mine and am looking for songs
>which have the name Judy or Judith in the title or the lyrics.  So far I've
>come up with:
>
>Stephen

Maybe add some tracks from the hystarically funny Judy Tenuta, the creator
of "Judyism" where all men are supposed to be her "love slaves."

Otherwise try the used bins for the Hawaiian Pups LP with the track called
"Baby Judy" on it.  This is an early 80's new wave band kinda in the same
vein as the Vapors, Devo, M, etc.  "Baby Judy " is a pretty fun and upbeat
song.

Good Luck...

|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
||  Gene J                     ||
||  <u46837@uicvm.cc.uic.edu>  ||
||  Chicago, Illinois          ||
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: mimi@ssd.intel.com (Mary-Suzanne King)
Subject: Depeche Mode
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division (SSD), Intel
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 03:50:04 GMT

___________
Posted through a friend, okay to respond thru e-mail to her...
___________

   I am looking for any kind of news concerning Depeche Mode.....
is there a new album being released, are they in the studio, are
they dead?  Rumor has it that there is an album to be relased in
April of '93 - any truth to that? After harrassing the local
music stores , I still have no confirmation of this. Can anyone
help?

         Amy
From: djd@csg.cs.reading.ac.uk (David J Dawkins)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: GWAR
Date: 16 Nov 92 11:09:09 GMT
Organization: University of Reading

neil.black@uttsbbs.uucp (Neil Black) writes:

>Let's start up a new posting activity.  What are your favorite GWAR in
>concert stories?  Although their music stinks, there are ALWAYS worth
>the price of admission.

I don't doubt that they are worth seeing (I am going to see them ASAP),
but I disagree that their music stinks.  Some of it really rocks.

-dave
-- 
djd@csg.cs.rdg.ac.uk
djd@csug.cs.rdg.ac.uk
davidd@integ.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: spray@convex.com (Rob Spray)
Subject: Re: Grunge - it's NOT new
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:37:55 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <Nov.18.20.47.49.1992.13179@pilot.njin.net> birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag) writes:

>2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:

>>And I still say that Black Sabbath was doin' this about 25 years ago...before
>>most of the Soundgardeners were walking...

>Actually, one of the guitar mags labeled Neil Young the "King of Grunge..."
>He's older than Black Sabbath, I think.  Heck, he's older than a lot of _real_
>royalty. ;)

Hah! Mere pups!  Check out Link Wray's "Rumble" which predates Black
Sabbath and Buffalo Springfield (Mr. Young's first well-known band).

Then there was Duane Eddy, the king of "Twang".  Check out his 
Gretsch-powered, reverb-laden hits from the fifties, like "Rebel
Rouser", "Peter Gunn" and "Ramrod".

And let's not forget the English band, Johnny Kidd and the Pirates.
The Who covered their "Shakin' All Over", but the original was
was a cross between the rockabilly of Gene Vincent and the Bluecaps
and the stuff now spewing forth from Seattle.

--Rob  spray@convex.com
--old f*rt

"I'm the man that they love to hate,
 Coming outta Washington state."
			  "Onetime's Got No Case"
			  Sir MixaLot
From: pmarin@waltz.seas.upenn.edu (Paul S Marin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Kitchens Of Distinction
Date: 23 Nov 92 00:36:56 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


Are there any Kitchens Of Disinction fans reading this??  If so E-mail me at

			pmarin@eniac.seas.upenn.edu


I'm interested in any live or rare recordings by them, b-sides, any imports
avialable here in the U.S.A., or any mailing list.
Thanks 
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: randhol@solan.unit.no (Preben Randhol)
Subject: Spiritulized
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 19:42:45 GMT

Keywords: 
Spiritulized is a band from England. If you haven't hear about them before run
like hell to your record-shop and buy their album Laser Guided Music. The record
have been out for a while, but I don't know how many of you who have heard about
it. Spiritulized is the best band about, so get the album.
WARNING: You must listen to the music for some time before you really starts to
enjoy it.

If there is any Spiritulized fans out there please contact me

    -Preben Randhol

           -E-mail:randhol@alkymi.unit.no (Norway)

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: ahacop@next07cville.wam.umd.edu (Ara Hacopian)
Subject: Re: what are the Pogues/Elvis Costello doing now
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 03:20:11 GMT

In article <By3Gns.2CI@well.sf.ca.us> rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao)  
writes:
> 
> What are the Pogues and Elvis doing now?
> Haven't heard any news about them this year.
> -- 
> Robert Chao
> Oakland, California

Shane MacGowan left the pogues, during Peace and Love he was getting in to  
acid and such and in an article in Rolling Stone he seemed really  
disillusioned. I think the pogues are supposedly touring with Joe Strummer  
or they finished their tour with him, or something.

Elvis Costello will probably release another album in a year or two. Damn,  
you'd think that he'd have more to write about now that he's married, old,  
and fat...:)