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From: james@sugaree.uu.net (James O. Payne, Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: DEPECHE MODE MURDERS ROUTE 66
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:08:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: sugaree.1992Apr7.180800.164
Organization: IKEA US, Phila PA

In article <7APR199212013652@zeus.tamu.edu>, pac9897@zeus.tamu.edu (REVENGE OF THE KILLER TOMATOES) writes:
> Well Yazzoo were called Yazz over here in the US, no seroiusly, don't ask
> me why. I had a huge argument with someone when I first arrived because
> they insisted that Yazz was an electronic group with Alison Moyet and
> not some ditsey bimbette who released two singles.

Please note that Yazz and Yaz are two completely different bands...as I noted
in a different reply, Yaz is what Yazzoo was called in the states (does anyone
know why?  I don't).  Yazz was the bimbette (well, actually, I haven't met her.
I can't say if the B-word applies to her (he/she/it/them)) in the other band.

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From: tim@crash.canon.co.uk
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.rap
Subject: Re: A Fix: (was Re: Beastie Boys Discography (somewhat))
Date: 13 Apr 92 09:06:18 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Canon Research Centre Europe Ltd

casteley@phil.ruu.nl (Eric Casteleyn) writes:
|demsey@neural.tucson.az.us (herr loki) writes:
|
|>In article <1992Apr10.000859.18555@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>  writes:
|>>      "She's On It"  Unknown to me when released, have never seen it.  Some
|>> sources say it was THIS which caught fire in the Black clubs.
|>> 
|
|>  Release in 1985; the Bside is "Slow and Low". Rick Rubin produced this
|>one along with "Licensed to Ill"
|
|
| Correct me if I'm wrong, but i thought the single She's on it/Slow and low
|was a re-release. Slow and low came off the album, but she's on it was from
|before license to ill... 

I think the original poster was talking about the first issue. It was
reissued in late 86/early 87 after the Beasties had gone top 40. I guess
CBS/Def Jam were desperate for another rock/rap track to follow up the
awful ``Fight..'' and ``No Sleep..'', they didn't have the balls to
release ``Rhymin' and Stealin''' so they went to the archives instead.

Tx. [typin' and typin']
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-- Tim [O'Donoghue] <tim@crash.canon.co.uk> <...!uunet!uknet!canon!tim>
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Negativland Questions
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:11:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.lapj_jm
Organization: Living in a satellite fantasy, waiting for the night to end.

kinnema@wkuvx1.bitnet (Mark Kinney, Attorney at Chaos) writes:

> 1) is there a Negativland discography out there? (I have the SST catalog
> from "Guns," but I know there's more out than what's on that list.) 

Albums: NEGATIVLAND, POINTS, A BIG 10-8 PLACE, ESCAPE FROM NOISE, HELTER
STUPID, LIVE STUPID (unreleased).  All released albums are out on CD except
POINTS which is due for a reissue later this year.

Cassette-only releases: JAMCON '84, THE WEATHERMAN, PASTOR DICK, DICK VAUGHN.

Singles: U2 NEGATIVLAND (deleted), GUNS

Video: NO OTHER POSSIBILITY

> 2) can anyone make reccomendations of what to get by them? (I have
> "Guns" and "A Big 10-8 Place") 

Get ESCAPE FROM NOISE, then HELTER STUPID.  The earlier stuff sounds much . . . 
. . . earlier.  My favorite tape is JAMCON '84.

> 3) Is "U2" stil available *anywhere*?

Some shops have copies but at ludicrous prices.

Other Negativland tidbits from Mark Hosler:

	* In the face of SST's threatened suit agains them, Negativland
	  rounded up some pro bono legal help and are currently negotiating
	  how the $90,000 will be handled.  Mark sounds optimistic about
	  finding a solution that everybody can live with; ideally Negativland
	  would like to regain control of their back-catalog from SST.
	  Mark said that Gregg Ginn was so pissed at the band that even if
	  SST got LIVE STUPID to release, he'd probably license it to another
	  label for actual release.

	* The band's been working on another studio album, which could be
	  ready to release as early as mid-summer.

	* The lawsuit situation has hit them all pretty hard financially;
	  Don Joyce is having trouble making his rent.  And Mark lost $5000
	  of his own money when Rough Trade collapsed.

	* Once all the legal bullshit is settled out, the band is going to
	  put out a magazine that compiles clips on the entire situation.

	* There are several mainstream journalists who intend to try to
	  corner U2 about the lawsuit and why they didn't do anything
	  about it.

	* NEGATIVLAND has sold 2000 copies on CD so far.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

If Thurl Ravenskroft and James Earl Jones fought each other, who would win?
From: dan@cafws1.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless)
Subject: Last Rights screw up
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:43:59 GMT

	Hey people.  Does anyone know what Capitol is going to do about the
Puppy screw-up?  A massive recall?  (Doesn't sound likely.)  My friend bought
one the disks before I could warn him...  I don't understand how Capitol could
let something like that happen, anyway.  Don't they do tests to make sure 
things are coming out right before they press the whole batch!?  Jeez.  Anyway,
does anyone know what Capitol is advocating owners with dogshit copies do?

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From: fish@jab.tucson.az.us (Fresh Fish)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Arizona Industrial (and some Crash Worship news)
Date: 12 Apr 92 09:23:24 GMT
Organization: Just Another Bbs. Tucson, AZ

> > 
> > Oh god, I hope not (I'm from Tucson)... I will go out and say Users of the 
> >Wicked Gravity is the biggest want-to-be band in... the world? A bunch of 
> >kids with money thinking they are "industrial"... the only band that no-one 
> >in tucson likes... and there are some really bad bands with fans here.... oh
> >well....
> > 
> Obviously, this guy fails to realize that, for an *industrial* band,
> being hated by everybody in their (typically very narrowminded)
> hometown is often the best indication of how good they actually are!
> Crash Worship seems to be semi-despised here in San Diego, and given
> Genesis' problems of late, it seems that his entire home country
> still despises Throbbing Gristle!  Thanks for the hint, Dave! Now
> I'll be sure not to miss them. (Heck, I might even by a tape!)
> 
 
 When I say User of Wicked Gravity were want-to-be industrial, I ment just 
that. When I see a new band, I look for "Something Origonal" or a message... 
but the band had nothing origonal to say or do... They did the typical put 
up porno films, and old 60 horror films... Go on stage and have sex with 
blow up dolls... This is nothing new, they were just out TRYING to be 
industrial... Look at old industrial bands like Throbing 
Gristle/Swans/CoumTrasmissions(t.gristle) and etc... In there times they did 
some of the same things, and it was shocking/industrial.... USOWG didn't 
even shock me... just made me laugh... Sam(the singer) is just the same as 
the image of the band... (that sentance didn't make sence... but oh well... 
either does this whole discussion)
 
 
 And of Crash Worship... Check em out in Tucson - The 14th(next week) at the 
DownTown Performance center...
 
-fish
 microdot
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Chem Lab
From: cvadrmuo@vmsa.is.csupomona.edu (Silk)
Date: 14 Apr 1992 16:06 -0800
Distribution: world
Organization: California Polytechnic University, Pomona
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Well I was walking down Melrose and I saw a flat for Chem Lab.. from the album
cover and the name I knew it was some industrial group.. just havent heard
much about them.. Before I run into my nearest decent record store I thought
I'd get some opinions on this group.. like how do they sound like? Are they
any good?

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
   []     Silk
 [][][]   CVADRMUO (at) CSUPomona.edu
   []
   []     "In cages our future.. The answer's insane!" - Skinny Puppy
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: kmfdm@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael Alan Johnston)
Subject: I want to make Music(But need help!)
Originator: kmfdm@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:55:51 GMT


I owm an IBM computer and just purchased a SOund BLASTER pro.
And now I want to make"industrial" music with my computer.
is this possible?
I don't own a keyboard or sampler or drum machine or anything like that
I need help. Does anyone out there use an IBM and produce A fair quality
of music from it?  What is needed to start out Can someone help me out
Thanks
miek j

mike J]

.
.
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ZZ
aghhh.!

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From: ab56503@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Surfer Doolittle)
Subject: Another Sound Bite Question...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 20:55:55 GMT

   Hey there everyone..For those who've heard Riverz End from sp's
   latest album..Does anyone know what that one sound bite of the 
   girl screaming/panting in the background and then says, "what else
   do you want me to say?...hmmm??" ?  I'm very curious as to its
   origin..Thanks

   --Hope everyone's going to the vic May 22nd!
From: steveh@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (Steven Hayes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: thee temple ov psychic youth
Date: 7 Apr 92 11:54:48 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, RMIT, Melbourne, Australia

u9038752@cc.uow.edu.au (roger bolton) writes:

>ok, what exactly is it?
>I gather it is a crowley like order silmilar to the order of the\
>golden dawn or the O.T.O, founded by P ORRIDGE??
>am I correct??
>OK now. HOW DO I JOIN??
>ELDRITCH

I may be full of shit, but I think it involved getting certain parts
of your body pierced (bogus IMHO). I think the 'club' is only active
in the states (might be wrong). I have a friend who made a hologram for
these guys a few years ago - they made her an 'honourary member'. As
far as I know she didn't get pierced though ;-)

Theres my rather meager contribution...

PS: I much prefer Ellards THEE TEMPLE OV BUY MEE A BEER. ;-)
-- 

   Steven Hayes                                    |  steveh@cs.rmit.edu.au
   Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology (RMIT)  |  +61 3 660-2693
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: carlson@viking.sps.mot.com (Brett Carlson)
Subject: Users of the Wicked Gravity (was Re: Arizona Industrial)
Organization: MOTOROLA 
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:06:24 GMT
Originator: usenet@nddsun1

In article <PTZ4iB1w164w@jab.tucson.az.us> fish@jab.tucson.az.us (Fresh  
Fish) writes:

>  When I say User of Wicked Gravity were want-to-be industrial, I ment  
just 
> that. When I see a new band, I look for "Something Origonal" or a  
message... 
> but the band had nothing origonal to say or do... They did the typical  
put 
> up porno films, and old 60 horror films... Go on stage and have sex with 
> blow up dolls... This is nothing new, they were just out TRYING to be 
> industrial... 

This is just the sort of pointless slagging that is plagueing the Arizona  
music scene...that's why the title of "most hated band in Tucson" is an  
honor to be proud of...

Gee, maybe they should just stand there and play there instruments and  
forget about all the visual effects and film loops....that'd be  
interesting.......

I've only seen UWG twice (and i have their "Breaking through the Fifth  
Wall" cassette), but they've completely blown me away both times.  I think  
that they have a wildly creative live show, and anyone who says that they  
have no message has obviously not listened to "Men of the Cloth" or "Snuff  
Film" or "Wage Slave", or read the lyric sheet accompanying the cassette.

>                                Sam(the singer) is just the same as 
> the image of the band... 

The last time i saw the Users, which was about a month ago at the Silver  
Dollar club in Phoenix, they had acquired a new vocalist and added two  
more guitarists.  I agree that the current lineup is far superior to one  
that i witnessed in November at the Sun Club.

>(that sentance didn't make sence... but oh well... 
> either does this whole discussion)

Agreed.  Go see the Users for yourself and form your own opinions.

Incidently, the Swans/Machines of Loving Grace tour will be at Tempe's Sun  
Club on Wednesday night.  Should be an interesting show.

--brett 
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: klf@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Brian Mark Bishop)
Subject: FAQ
Originator: klf@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 16:39:10 GMT

I'm a new subscriber to this newsgroup, and have a bunch of questions
about industrial music.  

Could someone please send me the latest FAQ list?  I'd greatly appreciate
it.  Thanks.
From: mute@wpi.WPI.EDU (Madman Omar)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: DEPECHE MODE MURDERS ROUTE 66
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:52:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: wpi.1992Apr9.225234.10014
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute

In article <3085@cs.rit.edu> djs6015@cs.rit.edu (Donald J Smith) writes:
>
>depeche mode not being industrial debatable? theres no question... even if i

(Here's where I get flamed big-time...)

Just as a thought- has anyone ever listened to the middle to later
albums of Kraftwerk (Computer World and Man-Machine, mostly), and then
listened to Depeche Mode's first album, Speak and Spell? There are more
similarities there than one would think...

Also, the Orchestral Manoevers in the Dark album Dazzle Ships has a lot
in common with Radio-Activity and Computer World...

Interesting how Kraftwerk seem to have influenced everyone in the world,
somehow...

Josh Brandt



-- 
          ...said it was heaven just to breathe your air...   Severed Heads
                                         - mute@wpi.wpi.edu   Joshua Brandt -
From: jaywb@juliet.caltech.edu (Bromley, Jay W.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: great! new industrial dance!
Keywords: this is the trip! the best part!
Date: 12 Apr 92 08:25:00 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.40

so a really cool disk to dance to:
 Current 93  present Harry Oldfield 'CRYSTAL'

particularly good are:
stick and clear quartz with flat and Madagascar quartz 
energy is eternal delight
and my personal, soothing favorite,
FOUR!@!!
mixed and produced by Ken Thomassjadhflsagjkf
itssosoothing ican't type
really good! 

########################## Making time in a low rent highrise, no place
jay bromley, space cadet | to go downtown, crushing crucifixion, particles
jaywb@juliet.caltech.edu | harmful descent, take a shot and hide
From: mthorn@madvax.uop.edu (Charlie's enormous mouth)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Vocal styles of the grand Poopoochee lama
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:28:35 GMT
Reply-To: mthorn@madvax.uop.edu
Organization: University of the Pacific, Stockton, CA

pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) asks:

>I also like any sort of robotic distortion.  LFO's work is a good example.
>The beginning of "There Is No Law" by Messiah also has a good variant on this
>style.  How is this done?  Do you need a vocorder to do it?  How much do
>vocorders run?

Something I found interesting is that the Korg Wavestation module (not sure
about the keyboard) has a vocorder in it.  So, if you felt like saving up about
$2000, you could get yourself one of the most brilliant mods on the market, in
addition to the vocorder (and several other great effects, too!).

As for a regular vocorder, I'm not sure, but I would guess it would run about
the same as a decent rack effects unit - maybe a little less.


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old, they were pushed around in wheelchairs.  In between, they were just pushed
around." -- Tom Robbins
From: tim@crash.canon.co.uk
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: I like the way you fill out your clothes
Keywords: trainspotter
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:00:24 GMT
Organization: Canon Research Centre Europe Ltd

``You wanna know something Red
  I like you
  I like everything about you
  I like the way you fill out your clothes
  I've gotta soak my head under your hose''

So where's the sample from?

Tx. [filling out his clothes]
--
-- Tim [O'Donoghue] <tim@crash.canon.co.uk> <...!uunet!uknet!canon!tim>
From: jkd2886@usl.edu (Davis Jason K)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Last Rights - Download
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:54:36 GMT
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana


	Hey!  Anyone heard about this?  Download...  noise?  NOT!
A friend of mine told me last night that it is actually the ENTIRE
cd played backwards at a high speed (such as through a computer line??? -
hence Download???)  with some extra stuff added of course.  I don't know,
but listening to it, it could be.  Try it!  Can anyone play the cd 
backwards?  It might be interesting to find out the truth.

	Second, does anyone out there happen to have lyrics for the
Last Rights album, or Tapeworm from Pigface, or "Hand in Hand" from
Thrill Kill Kult?  Email or post if you do (or to smothered hope).
Thanks...

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*            Simply, the message read, the dream is in your face             *
*         				-Pigface (Tapeworm)                  *	
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*						-Isenguard                   *
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Subject: Last Rights Download
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
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Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
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From: jester@crash.cts.com (Ken Bibb)
Subject: Mexican Industrial
Reply-To: jester@crash.cts.com (Ken Bibb)
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 03:50:33 GMT

A friend of mine heard a Mexican Industrial band that he swears
is red hot.  Any ideas of who this could be?
Organization: William Rainey Harper College; Palatine, IL  60067
Date: Tuesday, 7 Apr 1992 09:57:42 CST
From: Steve W Hill <SHILL@HARPERVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Last Rights Promo Tape...

In article <1992Apr6.193759.15745@progress.com>, djm@progress.COM (Dave McMahon)
says:
>
>I was checking out my local used CD stores here in Boston and I saw
>Last Rights on tape.  Yah, you'll probably get the entire "Love in Vein", but
>Download is listed on the tape as 1:01!!
>
>One minute long!  Has anybody else seen this?  The tape inlay was all white
>and the tape has the standard "promo only. not for resale" stamp thing'y on
>it.

The time listed for Download is a typographical error.  The tape indeed
contains the whole album (including the 39 seconds missing from the CD).
I had a handful of these tapes and have given them all away.

Steve Hill                                       SHILL@HARPERVM.BITNET
Data Communications Technician           William Rainey Harper College
Office of Information Systems          1200 W Algonquin Rd Palatine IL
------''No one in power taking blame.''----Skinny Puppy---------------
From: storm@cs.mcgill.ca (Marc WANDSCHNEIDER)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: FAQ
Date: 15 Apr 92 00:51:29 GMT
Organization: McGill University, Montreal, Canada

In article <1992Apr14.185613.29158@leland.Stanford.EDU> kola@leland.Stanford.EDU (Kurt Kolasinski) writes:
>In article <1992Apr14.163910.15012@uwm.edu> klf@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Brian Mark Bishop) writes:
>>I'm a new subscriber to this newsgroup, and have a bunch of questions
>>about industrial music.  
>>
>>Could someone please send me the latest FAQ list?  I'd greatly appreciate
>>it.  Thanks.
>
>	What kind of a considerate, net-ettiquette conscious fool are
>you anyway?  God, if we get many more readers like you  the next thing
>you know there will be no one left to flame NIN or say that Skinny Puppy
>sucks.

	Uh YEAH!.  Next thing you know, people'll be agreeing with each other
and stuff like that.  Eeech.

>	And I hope I don't have to explain that this comes with a
>healthy dose of (((---:::!

	And just what would this be...?  A head of of corn or soemthing? ;-)

-- 
  storm@cs.mcgill.ca           McGill University         C program run.  Run  
  Marc Wandschneider           Montreal, CANADA          Program run! PLEASE!
Ever wonder how Worf got to be Security Officer on the Enterprise when the 
Capt gets kidnapped from the bridge every two episodes and Troy Beats him up?
From: moon!cyberden!xorcist@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Is Mark Pauline on the net?
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 21:22:39 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

Is Mark Pauline of SRL fame on the net?
<X>

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   | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N       [ moon!cyberden!xorcist@well.sf.ca.us ]
From: ogre@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: voice on ministry's you know what you are.
Date: 11 Apr 92 16:53:51 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Does anyone know what effects were use to fuck up the vocals on ministry's
'you know what you are' (or whatever)?
thanks
o




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