From: gisle@ifi.uio.no (Gisle Hannemyr)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: PV equation
Date: 16 Nov 92 01:05:53 GMT
Organization: gisle@ifi.uio.no
Originator: gisle@gyda.ifi.uio.no

In article <goD5TB2w165w@throb.mcws.fidonet.org> hardman@throb.mcws.fidonet.org (Bill Hardman) writes:

> To excuse you lack of education in the location of a mis-
> understood word, you have to have the person having the comprehension
> trouble in front of you.  It doesn't work over the net.  If he wants
> the service for free, find someone local, that is trained and certified
> to do it.  If his plea is valid, and he does want to discover the mis-
> understood words, he could e-mail me his phone number, and I would
> schedule him for an appointment.  Of course, to make it worth my
> time, I would have to charge a standard industry rate, as I am a
> certified social worker with a degree.

Bill, we are not discussing a "misunderstood word" -- we are discussing
the correct application of an equation that appear in one of the
most basic books on Scientology and Dianetics.


But, I understand your reply to mean that you have a good
understanding of the PV equation, and would be willing to help others
learning about it if it could be made worth your your time.  I think
that that could be arranged in some sporting fashion.  In short, I
have a bet to offer you:

I am willing to wager US$ 8888.- (yeah -- that's four times infinity
stood sideways), either to be paid to you or donated to a charity of
your choice, if you are able to provide a high-school primer type
description of how to apply L.  Ron Hubbard's famous equation:

                       PV = I*D^x

The objective of the description should be to show that the equation
does compute according to the standard rules for algebra and physics
(as taught in high-school).

What I expect to see is (at least):

    1) An explanation of what PV, I, D and x actually are.
    2) A description of units of measurement one should use for PV,
       I, D and x.
    3) A description on how to measure PV, I, D and x (please describe
       any non-standard equipment required for making the measurements).

To win, all you need to do is to satisfy the following constraints:

    1) Units should compute to equality on both sides of the
       equation sign.
    2) One should be able to measure PV, I, D and x, and the measured
       PV should be equal to the computed PV within the range of
       error of the measuring equipment.
    3) The solution should not be based upon the equation being
       degenerate (e.g. a degenerate equation is one where all
       terms degenerate to constants, or PV = D = always 0, etc.).

L. Ron Hubbard has stated [referring to Scientology] that "No other
subjects on Earth except physics and chemistry have had such grueling
testing".  As the contraints you need to satisfy in order to win is
easily satisfied for each and every one of the equations that are
found in standard physics and chemistry primers, this almost sounds
like a gift from me to you, so what do I expect you to wager?

If you take me up on the bet, I want you to wager US$ 1.- against mine
US$ 8888.-.  If you accept the bet, you have 7 days from now (your
article should be posted to this newsgroup, and timestamped before
November 23, 2400 GMT) to provide the information.  My offer is valid
until November 18, 2400 GMT (i.e. you have until then to decide
whether to accept the bet or not).

Do we have a bet?


> I have noticed in your posts that you have a poor control
> over your psychotic delusions in a discussion, and have a compulsive
> habit of attempting to belittle the opposing viewpoint.  When did
> you first feel that you had to exert this force over an imagined
> enemy?  Your particular neurosis has always facinated me, and for
> you, I will handle your case over the net.  I will not use
> Scientology, but routine psychological evaluations and practices.
> The first hour is on me.

Hmmm... It sounds like you are starting to become angry.  I appreciate
that... shows that you care.

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