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From: puerta@camis.Stanford.EDU (Angel Puerta)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: AMEX miles for FF program?
Date: 8 Nov 1992 01:53:41 GMT
Organization: Stanford University School of Medicine
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In article <1992Nov8.012209.3685@unixland.natick.ma.us> bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser) writes:
>puerta@mcs-next-10.stanford.edu (Angel Puerta) writes:
>>Absolutely, the AMEX points are converted 1:1 into miles in one of the above 
>>mentioned programs.They simply add to what you already have in the FF program

>
>Can an AMEX "additional cardholder" join this program?  If so can it
>be kept separate from the primary cardholder's program (if any)?

Yes. Additional cardholders expenses qualify. No they are lumped together.


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From: ej@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (sang-cheul.kong)
Subject: Re: Price changes (?)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:16:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov1.084809.4120@ads.com>, henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch) writes:
> picasso@bass.bu.edu (David Ondzes) wrote: 
> 
> ->Are there regular times during the year when air fares drop ? like Christmas ?
> 
> fares go *up* for christmas ... surely you're familiar with supply and
> demand?  it's hard to predict how fares will move anymore ...
> 
Not necessarily.  About supply and demand. . .
There is no business travel during the holidays.
Most leisure travelers visiting family have already gone to where they are
going by then.  Christmas eve, Christmas day, and New Year's eve are some of
the least traveled days, and airlines often do reduce fares.  The catch is
these sales are not generally advertised.

	Brian
From: kmeyer@aero.org (Kraig R. Meyer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Help on using United Airline credit coupons
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:02:34
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
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In-reply-to: klg0582@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu's message of Mon, 9 Nov 1992 07:03:56 GMT

On Mon, 9 Nov 1992 07:03:56 GMT, klg0582@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken-Huang Lin) said:
>   I have 4 United Airline credit coupons each of which has a $87.5
> value (total $350) that I gained in an overbooked flight.  I have some
> questions regarding these coupons.  Your answer would be highly
> appreciated.
>
> (1) Do I have to buy tickets from United Airline directly or can I deal
> with travel agent?  What if I buy tickets from travel agent by mail?
>
> (2) Are these coupons good for published discount rate such as staying
> over Saturday night or non-refundable tickets?
>
> (3) Are the coupons limited to domestic fights?
>
> (4) Any limitation for the transfer to family members or friends?

Try reading the back of the coupons, or calling United directly.

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Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 09:26:37 -0500 
From: Vikram_Biyani@transarc.com
Subject: Re: Layover in London-What/how to do?!
 <BxIss8.B2L@ibmpcug.co.uk>


>Which London Airport are you coming into and which one are you departing
>from? What time of day do u you land and which day of the week. If you give
>me this info I will be able to help you.
>As to a visa for England get in the USA or you could see very little of
>London. A visa at the airport can take up to 3 hours to get.

Here's my experience with a London layover. I flew into Heathrow at
9:30 on a saturday morning, and had to fly out of the same airport
at 8:00 that night. After getting off the plane, I was able to get a
24 hour visa, bought a one-day-off-peak-travel-card and was on the
tube at 10:45. I visited the Tower of London, the London Bridge,
St. Pauls, Trafalgar Square, Picadilly, in that order. I traveled all
over town by tube (about #3.50 for the all day pass) and was back at
the airport before 6:00 p.m.

Vikram.


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From: davelett@athena.mit.edu (Richard Sun)
Subject: Re: Multiple flights at fixed price possible in the USA?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 07:42:11 GMT

Yes, Delta does offer such a deal...only to non-US citizens.  The only catch
is that it is on a standby basis, but from what I hear, this is not so bad,
since Delta Air Lines seems to be very good about NOT bumping its regular
passengers.  Your best bet is to contact your local Delta office or a travel
agent for help.  
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From: tsuji@hiuxm.kuec.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Hitoshi Tsuji)
Subject: Re: Concorde prices?
Keywords: n
Organization: Educational Center for Information Processing, Kyoto University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 05:10:34 GMT

In article <1dqadnINN8ho@huon.itd.adelaide.edu.au> mrp@ITD.Adelaide.EDU.AU (Mark Prior) writes:
>In article <pb5cf7r@Unify.Com>, perry@Unify.Com (Perry Clarke) writes:
>|> cf@fokus.gmd.de (C. Fuhrhop) wrote:
>|> >
>|> >Can anyone tell me what a Concorde ticket London - New York (or Washington)
>|> >costs? I know these things are horribly expensive, but I would like to know
>|> >how expensive they actually are.
>|> >
>|>
>|> I believe it's just the regular first class price.  About 1500 pounds
>|> sterling.  And there's no APEX discount :-)
>|>
>I don't know about APEX discount but I used an upgrade option on a
>business class British/Qantas round the world fare to fly London->JFK
>on Concorde 5 years ago. I think it cost me something like AU$900 to
>blast across the Altantic.
>
United/British round the world fare from Hong Kong to Hong Kong
  F 32510 HK$
  C 25460 HK$
  Y 16350 HK$
Upgrade option for concord
  F   497 GB pounds
  C   997 GB pounds
  Y   NA

Actually, I will try RTW ( F class  + Concord ) next spring.

Hitoshi TSUJI            Educ. center for Information Process.
                         Kyoto Univ. JAPAN
tsuji@kuec.kyoto-u.ac.jp



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From: citrin@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Wayne Citrin)
Subject: Re: What can I do as a Premire United MP Member?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:23:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.171125.4729@pony.Ingres.COM> reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux) writes:
>Executive Premier is the next level  It's  basically the same
>only  you get 100%  bonus miles (fly  1000 miles, get  2000 miles!) on
>every flight and you can reserve upgrades 72hrs before your flight.
>

There's also a Premier Emeritus for people who haven't fulfilled the required
20,000 real flight miles in the previous calendar year.  It's like Premier,
but you can only ask for an upgrade at check-in.

I've heard rumors about a Premier class above Executive with a requirement
of 100,000 flight miles per year that includes such perks as United taking you
to and from the airport in a limo.  Anyone know the details?

Wayne

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Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: howard@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Howard Lem)
Subject: Re: Canadaians choosing US Airlines?
Organization: UTCS Public Access
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:30:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.151032.25499@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ncole@nyx.cs.du.edu (Noah Cole) writes:
>
>So, this question is auimed at Canadaians.  When you are choosing airlines
>deoes nationality come into question ever?  What percentage of Canadaians
>fly on US Airlines.  For example, lets say that a Canadaian wants to fly from
>Toronto to Chicago. They coiuld fly AA, AC, or UA.  Would a Canadaian fly AC
>becaus it is AC?  If it was cheaper to fly from Montreal to Vancouver via
>Chicago on United, would someone do it?
>
I choose flights based on routing then pricing.  

Direct non-stop flights are preferred.  Direct flights with a stop have the
next level of preferrence.  Flight that call for a change of planes or airlines
are on the bottom of my list.  Price plays an important part of the decision
but, unless I can save more than 15%, the most direct routing will win.

I hate changing planes as it just gives the airline another chance to screw
up your schedule or lose your luggage.  A person just doesn't need these
headaches whether there on business or vacation.

Howard
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From: yan-dicky@cs.yale.edu (Dicky Yan)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: AMEX miles for FF program?
Date: 6 Nov 1992 01:33:57 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: usa
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In article <1992Nov6.023501.16807@news.nd.edu> news@nd.edu writes:
>
> puerta@mcs-next-10.stanford.edu (Angel Puerta) writes:
> > Yes, American Express.  You must pay $25 to join their "Membership
> > Miles" program.  This program allows you to convert 1 mile for each
> > dollar spent to either Delta, Southwest, One Pass, or Northwest.
>
> Can those miles got from AMEX be combined with the miles accumulated from a
particular FF program to get some richer rewards?

Yes, and the FIRST YEAR is free! i.e. you can join the program and
before the end of 12 months of joining the program, transfer all your
miles to one or more of your favorite freq. flyer programs and then
tell them you do not want to continue to join the program (if you think
the $25 is not worth it). Oh, of course, you can do this only if you have
accumulated 5,000 miles or more before the end of 12 months and I think
miles must be transferred in a minimum of !000 miles (or 2000?).

Dicky Yan.
From: kmeyer@aero.org (Kraig R. Meyer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: American Transair
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:07:17
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: solarium.aero.org
In-reply-to: bernward@rcc.de's message of Thu, 12 Nov 92 19:19:19 GMT

On Thu, 12 Nov 92 19:19:19 GMT, bernward@rcc.de (Bernward Averwald) said:

> Does anybody know American Transair?
> They offer flights from Frankfurt to Honolulu for only DM 1299,-

I assume that this is the U.S. Charter company "American Trans Air (ATA)".
There was a discussion in this newsgroup a couple months back about them.
As I recall, there were a few minor complaints about them (things like
having to be at the airport at 4am for a 7am flight, not enough people
checking in).  For a charter the consensus seemed to be that it was 
pretty good.

I flew them from Detroit to Aruba about 5 years ago, and was quite
happy with them (although I did have to get to the airport at 6am or
something like that).  I also have a friend who is a flight attendant
for them.


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From: kls@ohare.Chicago.COM (Karl Swartz)
Subject: Re: 1000 people on a 747-200 (was: Reno Air and Family Air...)
Organization: Chicago Software Works
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 20:50:05 GMT

In article <CKD.92Nov3000344@loiosh.eff.org> ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis) writes:
>reb> == Phydeaux  <reb@Ingres.COM> 

> ckd> You can get a LOT of people on those things (there's always the El
> ckd> Al evacuation flight from Addis Ababa that got 1000+ folks on a
> ckd> -200...  which surprised Boeing no end.  Not something I'd
> ckd> recommend for scheduled service though :)

> reb> I don't  remember this ...  where did they  put all the  people?  It's
> reb> about twice the usual maximum number of passengers!

>Take out the galleys & bathrooms.  Remove the armrests, and put in
>all-economy seating.  (Nobody's gonna complain.)

The flights were over three hours long so I hope they left the johns
in.  And they did have rolls and mineral water so some galleys were
left.  Actually, two of the three 747s they used were -200B models and
thus wouldn't have been that easy to reconfigured too dramatically,
though the one that grabbed the record was a convertible (4X-AXF, a
747-258C).

>Pack 'em in; they're *refugees*.

The flight's captain, Arie Oz, commented, "Weight was no problem,
these people are very light."  Keep in mind that Addis Ababa is in
Ethiopia, not exactly well-known for having citizens as lushly
upholstered as your typical Westerner.

(For the slow, these people were probably on the verge of starvation
and thus are thin and light.  Packing 'em in is no problem at all,
and with a better life at the other end they'll be quite happy.)

>I think they took off with 1,027 passengers (they landed with one more
>than they took off with; one was born inflight).

1,086 passengers, with 1,087 at landing.  Plus flight and cabin crew,
the usual armed guards, and medics.  Undoubtedly over 1,100!

>There was an article on it in AIRLINERS after it happened; sometime last
>year as I recall.  I can try to dig out the reference if anyone's
>interested (and Karl doesn't beat me to it :)

Hey, I gave you plenty of time to dig!  ;-)  The article is in the
Winter 1991 issue of Airliners, p. 48.

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From: continental one way tickets (Sacreme)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: continental one way tickets (Sacreme
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:34:02 GMT
Reply-To: continental one way tickets (Sacreme
Organization: continental one way tickets (Sacreme

continental one way tickets (Sacreme
From: jog@kpc.com (Rajeev Jog)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: airlines promotions
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:56:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: kpc.jog.721072612
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computers Inc.

wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan) writes:

>In article <1992Nov6.014335.15387@news.nd.edu> news@nd.edu writes:

>>There are several airlines promotions for this winter.  Continental offers
>>a free companion ticket if one flies four segments on it and a free coach
>>for eight segments.  Northwest and USAir also give a free coach (in
>>additional to the normal mileage) for
>>eight segments or 12000 miles.  But I know there are restrictions about
>>the free tickets from Continental.  They have to be used by around 5/31/93. 
>>Is there anyone know if Northwest or USAir also have that kind of restrictions
>>on the free tickets?

>Yes, the tickets must be used by May 15, 1993 or so.  Call the
>frequent flier numbers for full details.  If one flies more miles, she
>can earn tickets for trips to Hawaii and/or Europe, depending on the
>program.

I believe that Northwest also allows the free tickets to be used in Fall
1993.  Don't have the exact dates, call NW 1 800 225 2525.

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Newsgroups: rec.travel.air,misc.consumers
From: proto@mtl.mit.edu (Proto)
Subject: Chase VISA vouchers for travel on USAir
Reply-To: proto@mtl.mit.edu
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:50:21 GMT


I have been very disappointed with Chase's responses to my requests to 
get information about the voucher program for students on USAir.
I have sent them the letter posted below, summarizing my complaints.
If you have had similar experiences, I urge you to write to them at
Chase Correspondence, PO Box 31137, Tampa FL 33631-3137.

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Dear Customer Service Representative:

I recently received a letter inviting me to apply for a Chase VISA card.
The letter stated that, as a student, I would be eligible to receive 
certificates for travel on USAir at greatly reduced fares.  I decided to  
apply for the card, both because of Chase's reputation for service as well  
as for the USAir voucher program.

After receiving the VISA card, I called customer 
service in mid-October to obtain information about the voucher program.  
I was told that information would be sent and I should expect it within
7 days.  After 7 days I received nothing and made a followup call to  
customer service.  I was simply told that the information was on its way  
and would arrive soon.  During this time I wanted to purchase an airline  
ticket before some discount fares expired, but decided to wait a few days  
for the information to arrive.  

After still not receiving any information, I called customer
service again on October 31 and spoke with Ms. Dixie Maingot.  She  
informed me that, to the best of her knowledge, the certificates would be  
mailed out in 6 to 8 weeks, contrary to what the first two representatives  
told me. When I asked her for information about  restrictions on the  
certificates, she said she would have her supervisor either call me or  
leave a message on my answering machine the following Monday.  I asked for  
the name of her supervisor so that I could call if necessary, but was told  
it was against company policy to give that information out.  No message  
was left for me during the following week.

I would like to say that I felt Ms. Maingot was very courteous and did her  
best to give me information under the circumstances.  However, I was very  
disappointed in the way in which conflicting information
was given to me by different representatives.  I also found very  
unprofessional the initial invitation letter, containing offers which  
Chase has had difficulty fulfilling.

I have posted a copy of this letter to the computer newsgroups  
rec.travel.air and misc.consumers, and would be pleased to post any  
response you may have.  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Sincerely,

Arvind Kumar

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Newsgroups: rec.travel.air,rec.travel.marketplace
From: reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux)
Subject: FOR SALE  One way O'Hare ->Newark   DATE & TIME FLEXIBLE!
Reply-To: reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux)
Organization: E 4th St Home For The Overeducated Underemployed - Chicago Div.
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:18:25 GMT

I've got to buy a ticket for a friend  to come to  Chicago and help me
move back to NJ.  Rather  than waste 1/2  of a RT ticket, I'm offering
the other  half (O'Hare to  Newark) here.  I  just found out  that the
prices will probably go up on 11/13.   I have not purchased the ticket
yet, but will have to soon.  E-mail or call me for more info.

						reb

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From: kmeyer@aero.org (Kraig R. Meyer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: New Mileage Plus Partners - Air Canada, Ansett Australia
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:09:30
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
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In-reply-to: Aron Eisenpress's message of Friday, 30 Oct 1992 14:08:01 EST

Aron Eisenpress <AFECU@CUNYVM.BITNET> said:
> On Ansett Australia, starting October 1st, you earn 1 mile per paid mile
> on unrestricted fares, or 70% of paid mileage on discount fares.  As of
> November 1st, Mileage Plus Saver awards are available for roundtrip
> economy class travel between (unspecified) selected cities in Australia
> for just 2 AwardCheques (10,000 miles).

I called United to check on this; the number of miles required depends
roughly on the distance traveled.  For example, an Ansett flight from
Sydney to Melbourne requires 10,000 United miles; an Ansett flight from
Sydney to Cannes requires 20,000 United miles.

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From: waterhou@gdc.com (Richard Waterhouse)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Continental Discounts offered last week
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:48:55 GMT

Last week there were a few offers for free discount
coupons for Continental flights. I didnt pay much
attention to them because I didnt need them at the
time.

I will be traveling to St. Thomas the end of this month.

Does the offer still stand ?

Thanks

-Rich


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Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: pruss@helix.nih.gov (dmitry pruss)
Subject: Re: Effects of AC with Continental // PWA (CAI) with American ?
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:12:20 GMT

In article <sjones.721579134@cunews> sjones@alfred.carleton.ca (Stan Jones) writes:
>In <1992Nov12.132635.26428@bmerh85.bnr.ca> tedwong@bnr.ca (Ted Wong) writes:
>
>
>>What will happen to the tickets already purchased if CAI goes into
>>bankruptcy??
>
>Bankruptcy does not mean the outfit ceases to exist.

At least I had pretty succesfully lost my return ticket to MOW after PanAm
went belly up.
I believed that everyone's tix will be valid for Delta; and at least a
2.6K$-worth ticket has the least possible chance to get void.

Just a wrong belief, what else would I say?

	D
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: pruss@helix.nih.gov (dmitry pruss)
Subject: Re: FOR SALE postings in rec.travel.air
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 22:22:22 GMT

In article <HROSE.92Nov13130923@rocza.eff.org> hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose) writes:
>since rec.travel.marketplace exists, *please* post tickets
>forsale/wanted to that newsgroups instead of this one. 

*please* don't rush, Helen!
*My* newsserver *thinks* that r.t.marketplace don't exist yet ;-) 
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: Help on using United Airline credit coupons
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:01:39 GMT

klg0582@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken-Huang Lin) wrote: 
->  I have 4 United Airline credit coupons each of which has a $87.5
->value (total $350) that I gained in an overbooked flight.  I have some
->questions regarding these coupons.  Your answer would be highly
->appreciated.
->
->(1) Do I have to buy tickets from United Airline directly or can I deal
->with travel agent?  What if I buy tickets from travel agent by mail?

you probably have to buy from united directly.  read the back of the
coupons.

->(2) Are these coupons good for published discount rate such as staying
->over Saturday night or non-refundable tickets?

read the terms and conditions on the back of the coupons.

->(3) Are the coupons limited to domestic fights?

dunno.  could be the answer's on the back of the coupon.

->(4) Any limitation for the transfer to family members or friends?

i hear an echo in here.

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