HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sbtaves@icaen.uiowa.edu (Steven Bradley Taves)
Subject: Re: cable tv
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:45:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

In article <1992Oct6.200050.3057@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> Cessna@kn5f.jsc.nasa.gov (Mark T. Evert) writes:
>  (stuff deleted)
>Hey, let's regulate McDonald's.  I love Big Mac's and McDonald's has a 
>monopoly on Big Mac's.  I think they charge too much and I hate Burger 
>King.   We need to regulate and set minimum standards for Big Mac's.
>

What!?!  I could go to McDonalds tonite and get 2 big macs for 2 bucks.
If I want cable, I have to pay $60 for installation alone.

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Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton
From: bh437292@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Basil Hamdan)
Subject: Re: Who is the moderator for the debate finale on Monday?
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:27:59 GMT
Reply-To: bh437292@lance.colostate.edu
Organization: Engineering College, Colorado State University

In article <1992Oct16.063818.16116@menudo.uh.edu>, inde788@Jane.UH.EDU (Ashish Parikh) writes:
|>  I am wondering about the moderator and panel of reporters on
|>  Monday's debate? On VP debate and 2nd Presidential debate we
|>  had ABC News reporters as the moderators.  Who selects them?
|>  are CNN, NBC, CBS People not interested? 

NBC has stated that they will not participate in the debate
because the networks were not allowed to chose the format,
sort of arrogance I guess.

The participating journalist were chosen by the Bush
and Clinton camp when they finally sat down to negociate.
The way it was done was that each camp submitted a
list of 10 reporters they would like to have, then
the other camp was allowed cross out any name that they
did not find agreeable from the other camp's list.
Then an equal number of reporters was chosen from the two lists.



|>  Just wondering........
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> 

You're welcome.

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From: greg@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu (Greg Trotter)
Subject: Re: I will vote for Clinton if ...  [REPOST]
Originator: news@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:45:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Gallifrey - Home of the Timelords

In article <YOUNG.92Oct16130506@ssdd475a.erim.org> young@ssdd475a.erim.org (Peter Young) writes:
>In article <1992Oct15.164825.10958@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> greg@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu (Greg Trotter) writes:
>
>>   No! It *did* work! The eighties *were* properous! When Bush buckled in
>>   and signed the Democrats 1990 tax code into law, the wealthy no longer
>>   had a financial incentive to invest! What happens when there's no
>>   incentive? THIS! Look at the late 70s: same problem. It works. History
>>   has proven it to work. The Democrats love to say they are forward looking.
>>   They have to be; they've been such a dismal failure in the past.
>
>Somehow I wouldn't call the party of the eighties prosperous, since it
>was built largely on the three trillion dollars that were pumped into
>the economy during the decade.  And now that the pump has run dry, now
>that the party is over and we are left with the bills, we are all
>sobering up in a big hurry.  The printing pressses are not the
>foundation for prosperity.  I don't have the answer, but it is clear
>that providing incentives for real estate aquisition that forces
		^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>prices and stocks to artificially high levels does not work.  It is
	              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>clear that providing incentives for mergers and take-overs does not
>work.  It is not clear that the revenue vs. tax rate curve is as
>simple as the Laffer curve, or if it is, that the cuts in the eighties
>represented the proper direction.

I'll have to disagree here. I can't really see how real estate deals can
provide artificially high growth. In fact, I would define real growth as
that which includes movement in the real estate market.

There's nothing artificial about land. Somethings may fall out of favor
or need, but I can guarantee that land will always be needed, it will
always be a good investment potential, and an economy that doesn't include
land transactions *is* artificially high.

>(And American products, at least GM cars, _were_ much shoddier in the
>eighties than previously.  You don't have to believe me, just look at
>ads that claim that they aren't building them like they were in '85
>anymore.)

I suppose I haven't seen that one. Whose ad is that?

>Keep it up, folks: this is kind of fun.

Agreed!

					- greg
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush
From: bcorkum@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: TEST, please ignore
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:42:30 GMT

		This is just a test. Ignore it, please.
 
BCorkum@hamp.hampshire.edu
The stylin' chick with an attitude. I'm studying video/LBGS/Women's stu.
"Honey there's plastic in the bed." - Heather
"I just might die with a smile on my face afterall." - Morrissey
"I've got more than one membership to more than one club." - Ani Difrancoz
From: eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush
Subject: Re: Rep. Bob Dornan (CA-R)
Date: 9 Oct 92 03:31:03 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

Cessna@kn5f.jsc.nasa.gov (Mark T. Evert) writes:
>belld@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (David Bell) writes: 
>> I hear this guy is running for reelection this time around.
He is. He's a US Representative.

>> Who is he running against?  
>> What are the latest polls?  
>> How do I send money to his opponent?  
>
>He represents one of the most conservative districts in the country.  He 
>is a virtual shoe-in.

David, if you are willing to get Bob Dornan out of office, can you help
me get Speaker Tom Foley out?
-- 
Emil Thomas Chuck		eyc@acpub.duke.edu
Biomedical Engineer 1993	Never take me too seriously.
I don't have to have a 4.0 GPA to succeed in life because I'm 
good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me.
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,alt.destroy.the.earth
From: de5@ORNL.GOV (Dave Sill)
Subject: Re: No looking at your neighbors' papers....
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:49:45 GMT

In article <1b23tkINNqk9@cs.ubc.ca>, mechler@cs.ubc.ca (Roland Mechler) writes:
>
>Whew! we can all breathe easier knowing that our little buddies the
>bacteria and the viruses are going to make it!
>
>Yes, it's so convenient that all us bigger life forms just happen to
>be around right now. Kind of like one big 7-11.

I'm an environmentalist, I just don't think people ought to say "save the
planet" when they mean "save mankind".  Given the choice, I'd prefer to save
our species--not a lifeless chunk of minerals.

-- 
Dave Sill (de5@ornl.gov)           For every Bill Joy there is a Kirk McKusick.
Martin Marietta Energy Systems     For every Bill Gates there is a Richard
Workstation Support                Stallman.                     --Paul Graham
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections
From: mulac@daystrom.lerc.nasa.gov (Richard Mulac)
Subject: Re: Them Democratic handlers sure are smart!
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center [Cleveland, Ohio]
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 06:01:45 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.040337.5227@news.columbia.edu> egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy) writes:
>In article <1992Oct9.033816.14161@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> mulac@daystrom.lerc.nasa.gov (Richard Mulac) writes:
>>
>>Now wait a minute, all you Clinton supporters are constantly espousing his
>>great credentials (Georgetown lawyer, Rhodes scholar, etc.) and now you're
>>saying that the best he can do in the real world is $35,000 a year to
>>somehow cast him as a member of the middle class?  If he loses, at minimum
>>he'll have a top position at his choice of Universities (at > $100,000 a
>>year), but more likely he'd choose a seven figure salary at a big
>>corporation as a Democratic lobbyist.  Look where Dukakis wound up -
>>Harvard.
>
>More like a choice to go into government, where salaries aren't as
>high as, say, Wall Street.  Sure he could do better in private industry,
>but some people consider public service an honorable career move.
>When Clinton went into government, I don't think there was the same
>revolving door as there is now.  Remember that his political maturity
>occurred around JFK.  Remember Kennedy's ideal of public service.

And I suppose Kennedy grew up poor, too.  {:^)  It's naive not to admit that
both the Bush's and Clinton's are loaded.  Don't forget that Hillary is on
the Board of several corporations.  I don't think she does it for charity.
So Dukakis is at Northeastern now.  I thought I remembered him spending
some time right after the election at the Kennedy school at Harvard?

-- 
Richard Mulac                                     mulac@daystrom.lerc.nasa.gov
NASA Lewis Research Center, 21000 Brookpark Road, MS 5-9, Cleveland, OH  44135
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Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,talk.bizarre
From: jfw@jfwhome.FUNHOUSE.COM (John F. Woods)
Subject: Re: No looking at your neighbors' papers....
Followup-To: misc.test
Organization: Misanthropes-R-Us
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 02:05:37 GMT

In <1992Oct6.181637.26841@unet.net.com> stank@perrault.unet.com (Stan Knight) writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.000021.14558@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> shackeld@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (david m shackelford ) writes:
>> >   a.  Your job.
>> >   b.  Your planet.
>>     A.  Man does not have the capacity to destroy the planet.
>You CAN'T be serious. *Nobody* is this stupid!

No, the statement is, in fact, correct; man does not have the capacity to
destroy the planet, nor even to match some of the climatic excursions of
(geologic) history.  Man does, however, have more than enough ability to
render the planet unlivable for human beings, which is reason enough for
caution.  Unless, like most elderly Republicans, you don't plan on being
around when the bill comes due.
Xref: sparky alt.politics.bush:8869 alt.politics.clinton:10044
From: JFL4@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: Bush is a mother fucker
Date: 13 Oct 92 12:39:55 GMT
 <1992Oct10.020632.8995@board8.uucp> <BvznnH.34B@quake.sylmar.ca.us>
 <1992Oct12.232743.15074@oakhill.sps.mot.com>
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Oct12.232743.15074@oakhill.sps.mot.com>, pjm@anegada.sps.mot.com
(Patrick J. McGuinness) says:
>
>Good point.  You know, George Bush got his start in West Texas (Midland)
>selling drill bits. Then he went on to found Zapata with the Leidke brothers.
>

After his daddy gave him $300,000.  Bill Clinton's daddy was dead.

Hope this helps.

Jeff Luck              *The opinions are mine, but facts are facts*
CES Systems Office
Penn State University     "Whatever you guys want, I'm for."
JFL4@PSUVM.PSU.EDU           -Dan Quayle to Ohio Farmers, 1988
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From: stank@perrault.unet.com (Stan Knight)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,alt.destroy.the.earth
Subject: Re: No looking at your neighbors' papers....
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:44:55 GMT
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies, Redwood City

In article <1992Oct13.135807.6383@ornl.gov> de5@ORNL.GOV (Dave Sill) writes:
{some really silly stuff about global death not equaling destruction}


I give up dude you win. This has got to be the stupidest "discussion" I've
allowed myself to get into since childhood. 

Stan Knight
|I admit you have won, I KNOW when I've been licked|
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections,talk.abortion,talk.politics.misc
From: mon@cray.com (Muriel Nelson)
Subject: Re: Walking down to the student center last night
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:08:33 CDT

In article <1992Oct13.173304.9074@unet.net.com> stank@perrault.unet.com (Stan Knight) writes:

>If a woman is raped why in the world would she want to wait 4+ months AFTER
>finding out she was pregant to opt for an abortion. By the 2nd tri pregency
>is at best inconveint for the mother. In reality it causes much discomfort
>and restricts her a great deal. I would think any woman, after being raped and
>finding out she was pregant would want an abortion right away. 

Hmmm.  When a woman is raped, there's no guarantee that
she will have the extra money sitting around to pay for
an abortion, nor that she will be able to raise it within
a few months.

Those who are concerned that all abortions be performed
as early as possible might wish to find out what sort of
assistance exists for women in your area who become pregnant
as a result of rape.

At this time, I have seen _no_ evidence that late-term
abortions are being performed in this country for reasons
other than profound health risk to the mother, or fetal
deformity.

Canada has had no legal restrictions in place on abortion
at any time during pregnancy for some time now.  (Perhaps
Ms. Birmingham would be so gracious as to repeat the specifics
of her oft-made point about this.)  There is no evidence that
late-term abortions are on the increase there.

muriel
standard disclaimer
Xref: sparky alt.politics.bush:8053 alt.politics.clinton:8923 alt.politics.elections:15496
From: Cessna@kn5f.jsc.nasa.gov (Mark T. Evert)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections
Subject: Re: Bush breaks another promise..NOT!
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:37:46 GMT
Organization: Loral Space Information Systems

In article <1avbaoINNg7r@fido.asd.sgi.com> aschaffe@holodeck.csd.sgi.com 
(Allan Schaffer) writes:
> (from Bush's "Agenda for American Renewal")
> 
>     I want to create enterprise zones in inner city and rural areas.  
[...]
>     In our inner cities, we need to restore hope by clearing away the
>     handicap of crime, building a core of property owners, creating
>     business incentives, restoring infrastructure, and focusing our
>     programs on work and discipline.
> 
>     Enterprise zones can create solid economic foundations in
>     distressed communities. 
> 
> (from clarinet's news service)
> 
>       The White House, [...] is signaling a likely veto of a 
28-Billion-dollar
>     urban-aid and tax-relief bill. The measure would create 50 enterprize
>     zones in inner cities and other areas.

I'm sure there is more to this than a broken promise.  The Democrats have 
probably tacked something very objectionable onto this bill to ensure a 
veto and attempt to embarrass the President. For instance, You don't have to spend $28B to create Enterprise zones.  You forfeit some revenue, but In all likelihood the taxes generated by Enterprise zones would offset any lost revenue from tax breaks.  But...embarrassing the President seems to be status quo in Congress these days.  Hopefully, it will backfire.

Enterprise zones was a Reagan idea that has been resisted by Democrats for 
years simply because they thought it was a tax break for the rich....or 
they wanted the company to limit it's hiring to only people in that 
neighborhood.  Bush and most conservatives have been supportive of the Enterprise Zone concept.

Mark T. Evert
Friendswood, TX

My opinions are strictly my own.
From: CXC225@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush
Subject: I LOVEBUSH
Date: 15 Oct 92 03:17:44 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

I LOVE POLITICIAN THAT FUCK ME UP THE ASS.  REPUBLICANS SUCK MY COCK.  I went t
o see bush when he spoke herer at Penn State.  He shipped in the first 12000000
people and the students that go here could not see him.  Also every poster that
 did not say that you would like to lick his old wrinkled ass was taken away.
Is this a fucking communist country.  Not only do I not want to vote for bush n
ow but I also don't want to vote for any republicans. FUCK YOU ALL!!!!!!!!
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush
From: dash@skyy.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (O.P.P)
Subject: Re: Them Democratic handlers sure are smart!
Keywords: class envy Clinton Bush poverty "in touch"
Reply-To: dash@skyy.b30.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:46:56 GMT

In article <5911@news.duke.edu>, eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK) writes:
|> skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds) writes:
|> 
|>I don't mean to flame you personally, but frankly I am sick and tired of
|>this class warfare. Bush isn't in touch with the American people because
|>he hasn't experienced poverty???
|> 
|> Compassion is not measured by the amount of grief one experiences.
|> No one has more compassion because he/she has more guilt or more
|> experiences of hardship. Compassion is pure community love.
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> Compassion is apolitical because we all have a heart and concern for our
|> fellow man.

 Uh... Kind sir, you must not have seen the Republican Convention, nor
 read their platform. Concern for our fellow man?? Only if they came 
 from a nuclear family.
 
                                    O.P.P
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush
From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Subject: Re: I LOVEBUSH
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 03:07:28 GMT

In article <92288.231744CXC225@psuvm.psu.edu> <CXC225@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>I LOVE POLITICIAN THAT FUCK ME UP THE ASS.  REPUBLICANS SUCK MY COCK.  I went t
>o see bush when he spoke herer at Penn State.  He shipped in the first 12000000
>people and the students that go here could not see him.  Also every poster that
> did not say that you would like to lick his old wrinkled ass was taken away.
>Is this a fucking communist country.  Not only do I not want to vote for bush n
>ow but I also don't want to vote for any republicans. FUCK YOU ALL!!!!!!!!


Well, it will be a Communist country under Kliznev.
Simon
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections,alt.rush-limbaugh
From: vsg001@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Re: Tom Selleck on Arsenio
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 07:34:33 GMT

In article <2AD4E4C9.6496@news.service.uci.edu>, jdooley@maemaster.eng.uci.edu (John R. Dooley) writes:
> In article <1b1s4aINNovl@early-bird.think.com> laird@think.com (Laird Popkin) writes:
> 
> It also may be a good time to remind our readers that Clinton
> has been praised by Bush cabinet officers for his innovative
> welfare reforms that have moved 17000 from welfare rolls to 
> steady employment.
 EXACTLY! You give all the more credence to my orginial quote. I guess that
that just shows how compassionate Conservatives really are. Thanks Jonny! 

Disclaimers. Disclaimers


"The Wise man's heart inclines him towards the Right but,
 a Fools heart to the Left."
                      --Ecclesiastes 10:2
--A far better lesson

		VSG001@acad.drake.edu (Vince Goddard- ARCH Conservative) 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections
From: sieferme@stein.u.washington.edu (Eric Sieferman)
Subject: Re: Bush's Veto
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:36:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.175324.23235@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> mister rogers <rogers@ial3.jsc.nasa.gov> writes:
>if you think your cable company is charging too much for the service you
>receive, there is a better alternative to regulation.
>
>call them and cancel. tell them why you cancelled.
>your payment for TV service will be lower this way.

Do you have any examples of this approach actually
achieving the desired results?

Other possible results of cancelling cable service:
(1)  The cable company assuming that I am just another
crank, like those who cancel service because they
believe that TV is manipulated by the liberal
media, or by the trilateral commission, or by space aliens, ...
Any future effect I might have on the cost or 
content of cable tv has been removed, because I am
no longer a customer.
(2)  The cable company raising rates on everyone
else to make up for lost revenue.



-- 
| Eric Sieferman            |    sieferme@u.washington.edu          |
| U. of W., M.C.I.S.        |    (206) 685-3104                     |

Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton
From: StarOwl@uiuc.edu (StarOwl)
Subject: Re: The First Battle of October
Organization: Actuarial Science Program at UIUC
Reply-To: StarOwl@uiuc.edu
Keywords: significant words from a document used as an index to content
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eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK) writes:

: IV. Clinton was helped by Perot, but he didn't help himself. His
: greatest moment was in fighting back the charges of anti-patriotism
: (which again Bush did not attack him on this point). 

One of the biggest things that I disliked about the debate was
Bush's attempt to sling mud at Clinton on the patriotism non-issue.
Of course it did make for some good response comments, particularly
from Perot.  ;)  Other than that, I was reasonably impressed at
Bush's answers.  Yes, they sounded rehearsed, but at least they
had a vague resemblance to answers rather than speeches.

: [Clinton] however was NOT as
: well prepared as I had expected. In a broadcast debate, the last thing
: you should do is pause. Now once is okay if you have to think about an
: answer, but if I counted correctly, Clinton paused four times in this
: debate.

More, if you count all the times he took that little "mini-pause"
before heading into his rehearsed speech.  :)

: VII. Drinking game. For the next Presidential debate, for every time
: Bush says "tax and spend" all Democrats must drink a beer; for every
: time, Clinton says "invest" all Republicans must drink a beer. Have fun.

Ooooh!  If only I were a drinking person..... :)

--
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