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From: nrmendel@unix.amherst.edu (NATHANIEL ROBERT MENDELL)
Subject: To Mid-Atlantic Run Respondents
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 21:43:42 GMT


Hello everyone --

My name is Nathaniel Mendell and I am currently writing a thesis on my/our
favorite subject: motorcycling.  I want to create a fair and comprehensive
definition of our sport and contrast it to the stereotypical image of
bikers.  I think the fact that we would just head down to some diner to meet
a bunch of people we've never seen before or the sole purpose of riding
bikes together is incredible, and I'd like to talk about why we do it and
who we are.

In a nutshell, if you plan on going down why not send me your address (here or
to the address below) and I'll send you a few questions about you and your
riding.  I look forward to hearing from you!

Thank you,
Nathaniel Mendell

Amherst College, Box 262
P.O. Box 5000
Amherst, MA 01002-5000
From: orr@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Ken Orr)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Can't trigger traffic lights
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:57:45 GMT
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center

In article <1992Oct8.213106.29332@wam.umd.edu> delilah@next03pg2.wam.umd.edu (Romeo DeVerona) writes:
>In article <klp.718572850@reg> klp@doe.carleton.ca (Ka Lun Pang) writes:
>> In <1992Oct7.191402.17542@wam.umd.edu> delilah@next09epsl.wam.umd.edu  
>(Romeo DeVerona) writes:
>> 
>> .....
>> >stayed late; for securtiy, the place was completely fenced in, and at  
>> >night, they had electronic gates closed; keycard access from outside,  
>> >electronic triggered from the inside. except, i couldn't trigger them.  
>i  
>> >didn't know my friend's phone or apartment numbers (we went in  
>together,  
>> >new apartment) and the complex office was closed. luckily, after a mere  
>5  
>> >minutes or so, a car came in and i was able to leave by the "in" gate.  
>> >still, i wonder... what recourse would i have had i been stuck all  
>night?
>> >(maybe i should charge the complex w/ attempted kidnapping..)
>> >comments? suggestions?
>> 
>> >-D-
>> 
>> Did you look for a switch on the wall? I was in the same situation once
>> and while I was bitching away I saw a box with open and close buttons on  
>the 
>> wall. I think every apartment garge should have the same thing as a 
>> safety/testing device.
>> 
>> Check it out and please let me know.
>> 
>> klp
>

     Used to happen to me daily :-( The apartments I lived in had security
gates that would not open for motorcycles. Great theft detterent- you couldn't
ride or push a bike out without being seen. Royal pain in the ass if you like 
to ride :-( After months of complaining I finally moved.

     "86 Ninja 600R"                               K.O.
  "DOD #306 AMA #615088"                       T.I. Dallas Tx.
    "Eclipse GS Turbo"                      Orr@epcot.spdc.ti.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Rutgers (was: Re: Newbe Flamewars, was: MSF: BRC or ERC?)
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Date: 8 Oct 92 08:27:23 -0600
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Distribution: world
Organization: MSUS

In article <Oct.8.00.33.38.1992.22887@remus.rutgers.edu>,
merenda@remus.rutgers.edu (Kill Bon Jovi) wrote:

> well, if you think that the area that Rutgers is in is bad, you should
> see the area that i LIVE in!
> but really, has any one else across the country have the same
> problem that i seem to encounter here? 

Yea, when I lived in Hyde Park, Chicago home of the University
of Chicago in the late 69 to 72.

If you weren't raped, robbed or mugged you had
to contend with cagers who were either stoned,
stupid, study-blitzed or spaced as an absent minded prof.  I can
remember almost being hit by Milton Friedman,
swerving to avoid Saul Bellow and waiting behind Dick Gregory
as he jogged into the park.  Wierd.  I've probably flipped
off more Nobel prize winners than I've read.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: grw@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gary Wasserman)
Subject: Aerostitch Suit For Sale
Reply-To: grw@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gary Wasserman)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 18:19:53 GMT

Posting this for my wife:


    Deb Wasserman
    DTN 264-1863 (Nashua, NH) 603-884-1863
    WILBRY::WASSERMAN (please send mail)

    Motorcycle riding suit for sale:
    --------------------------------

    Aerostitch "Roadcrafter I+" one-piece riding suit.  Grey with blue
    patches..  Gortex-backed cordura nylon with sealed seams, Temperfoam
    pads at shoulders, elbows, and knees, Ultrasuede lined collar, eight
    pockets, Scotchlite reflective tape at breast pocket, back and leg
    closures, easy entry/exit system unique to Aerostitch.  Size 38-40.
    Would probably fit someone 5'4"-5'7", 150 lbs. or under.

    If you're not familiar with Aerostitch suits, this suit is incredibly
    useful and functional, both for touring and for everyday use.  It has
    the durability of full leathers, fits over regular clothing, and is
    as waterproof as a rainsuit.  And those _eight_ pockets sure hold a
    lot of stuff.

    $225. (new ones run about $550).

Her usenet address (that works for me) is:

	mit-eddie!decwrl.dec.com!wasserman%wilbry.DEC

Your usenet mail mileage may vary...

You can also reply to me and I'll forward your inquiries to her.

This suit is a hybrid of RC1 and RC2 suits since it was made during
the transition between the two.

-Gary

Gary Wasserman      "A completely irrational attraction to BMW bikes"
Interleaf, Inc.      Prospect Place, 9 Hillside Ave, Waltham, MA 02154
grw@ileaf.com        617-290-4990x3423 FAX 617-290-4970       DoD#0216
-- 
Gary Wasserman      "A completely irrational attraction to BMW bikes"
Interleaf, Inc.      Prospect Place, 9 Hillside Ave, Waltham, MA 02154
grw@ileaf.com        617-290-4990x3423 FAX 617-290-4970       DoD#0216
From: sproksch@cc.curtin.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: <None>
Date: 13 Oct 92 05:06:54 GMT
Organization: Curtin University of Technology

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: pfs@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (Paul Schnettler)
Subject: Re: Bicycle vs motorcycle flame war, part XXXVII
Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, University of Wisconsin
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 13:15:35 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.211112.7675@microunity.com> ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) writes:
>In article <1992Oct14.164544.23348@megatek.com> randy@megatek.com writes:
>>In article <1992Oct13.215126.12439@microunity.com> ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) writes:
>>|Excellent flame.  I'm sure you burned some disk blocks with that one.
>>|Unfortunately, you missed my point.  Maybe I was too terse.  Let's
>>|try again:
>>
>>  No, you were an idiot, jumping to conclusions. 
 Eric!
Get a life,a clue and a better attitude...
Talk about jumping to conclusions.
I invite you to come up to Wisconsin and take the motorcycle test.
You can don all your protective equipment, you must have ancle high
boots, sorry no high tops, and then place a earphone on and put your
helmet over that. Then you can ride around various road surfaces and
in many different traffic situations with a D.O.T. cage on your ass
for about 1/2 hour. Make sure you give appropriate head movements
and exagerate(I don't give a damn if you flame my spelling) them a bit
so the examiner is sure your looking out for little girls with tennis
balls... Then take the written test results with you (you must score
better than 84%) and get your licence endorsement.

Making blanket statements like those below tend to show your ignorance
or better yet, letting your ego show tend to lower your IQ! #:')
>
>
>What state do YOU live in that has a motorcycle (or car) liscense test
>that actually means anything?  To get your california motorcycle
>liscsnse, you rode your ZX11 (or a small bike you borrowed for the
>purpose) at <10 mph around a circle in the DMV parking lot.  Maybe you
>spend lots of time riding circles in parking lots.  Somehow I doubt
>it.  I also doubt that riding a circle in a parking lot has much
>relation to riding on a real road.  The motorcycle test is quite easy
>to pass, and is a minimal test of skill.  Since nearly everyone can
>pass the test, the ability to buy a motorcycle is the determining
>factor of who will ride.  Therefore, my statement "if you've got the
>money to buy a vehicle, you can use it".  I'm sorry if you can't understand
>something that simple.
>
>
>
>
>There's lots more of your foul, insulting post that I'd like to
>address, but I'm leaving on vacation shortly and I don't have
>time.  Maybe we can pick it back up in a few weeks when I get back.
>Until then, have a lousy day you vile bag of puss.
>
 After reading your foul insulting posts on this net I agree you should 
take a looong vacation, get your head back together and rethink your
sarcastic position to this issue.
Oh yes, have an equally lousy day you scum bag(tm), and fuck you very much!
>
>--
>Eric Murray   ericm@microunity.com   Ride fast, die young, wear black leather.
From: root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Almost had it stolen tonite!
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:09:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: elektro.1992Oct13.150903.2170
Distribution: usa
Organization: Why do you suspect that?

In article <BD.92Oct12132918@fluent.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
>john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton) writes:
>
>>I have many times read reports of shootings where a police officer put a clip
>>of 9mm into a drug-user and eventually said perpetrator bled to death, but
>>not before beating shit out of police officer.
>
>Does this belong in alt.folklore.urban?  I don't believe anyone,
>PCP or not, beats the shit out of a cop after taking a *clip* of
>9mm (maybe, if the clip only had 1 bullet in it).
>

Depends on where you punched holes in him ... if he was really up in some
stuff, *and* you didn't break any major bones with the rounds, I can believe
the story.  I've heard the same from instructors at the Police Academy.
If their hip bones or major leg bones are broken, they will almost for
sure go down.  Arms, shoulders, and the rest of that stuff isn't a 
guaranteed stop.  

Course, they also told me how to tell when I was hearing a fairy tale:

      If the story starts out "Once upon a time ... " it might be true.

      If the teller starts the story with "This is no shit ... " you know
      it's a fairy tale!

>   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
>                              DoD # 0698


Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff
            {  Friends don't let friends ride Japanese bikes  }
From: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Re: How far do you commute/Cereal for Breakfast
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:02:48 GMT
Expires: 31 Oct 92 05:00:00 GMT
Organization: Computervision Corp., Bedford, Ma.

In article <1992Oct10.192330.22383@ncsu.edu> steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier) writes:
>In article <9901038@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> 
>jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney) writes:
>>In rec.motorcycles, tjohnson@atcc5.prime.com (Tod J Johnson) writes:
>>> P.S. Does anyone eat Cereal for Breakfast besides me?? 
>>Yes.  A real man's breakfast.  Bourbon and Wheaties.  
>
>Almost up to a RealMan'sBreakfast(tm), but not quite there.
>Try Everclear and *LOTS* and *LOTS* of bran.
>When you fart, all the Roids are flamed into oblivion. 
>

Has anyone clued Seth in on this breakfast?  Sound like something he 
could use...

>Walk through walls, snort nitrous, drink beer and sterno, and piss wiskey!

...and possibly add a boost to the Harley Toiletson he peddals around on.



OBTW...for you Harley lurkers...8-)


Rich Bemben - DoD #0044                     rbemben@timewarp.prime.com
Back in the saddle - BONNE'S ALIVE          (617) 275-1800 x 4173
The street giveth and the street taketh away - Catmother
*********************************************************************
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: erik@peewee.nwc.navy.mil (Erik van Bronkhorst       Code 3814                               Phone 939-1421)
Subject: Re: the r.m meta flame topic
Organization: NAVAIRWARCENWPNDIV, China Lake
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:16:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.084230.679@halfdome.sf.ca.us> bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
>(1) what is countersteering?
>(2) bmws never die
>(3) fj's v. bmw
>(4) shaft or chain?
>(5) two stroke or four stroke?
>(6) harleys/japcrap suck
>(7) is "jap" an insult?
>(8) valve springs are for losers
>(9) how to put your bike on the centerstand
>(10) are helmet laws good?
>(11) using the back brake
>(12) the s/n ratio is too high[sic] and the dod is responsible for it
>(13) are .dirt,.harley,.racing groups good?  .tech? .dod?

 (14) horsepower determines acceleration.  or is it torque?
 (15) roll-on is most important to have under your arms
 (16) why does everyone pick on bicycle riders?  and
 (17) mc riders asked to explain #16, identify with, and feel sorry for 
      the poor, poor bicycle riders who have it sooooo tough

oh yah :-)
-- 
Erik van Bronkhorst KC6UUT DoD#4342585443 AMA#[classified]
"Truth is false and logic lost, now the fourth dimension is crossed..."
From: Michael.Nelson@f-1.n-1.z-1.rbbs-net.ORG (Michael Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Post-tipover tips?
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:47:48 GMT

Hello Robert!

Monday October 05 1992 17:44, Robert H. Yang wrote to All:

 RY->   Also, resist the temptation to touch up the scuff marks in the plastic.
 RY-> It's kind of difficult, as the color scheme is a layer of stickers over
 RY-> the ABS.  Unless you want to shell out major $$$ for new panels, or get a
 RY-> new paint job, the stock scheme is virtually unrepairable.  I've had
 RY-> one tipover incident per side on my Goof2 and the scratches are
 RY-> practically invisible.

    I sure felt like an idiot last night.  It was very hot here (for S.F.,
anyway), so I took a ride out to the beach on my 3 week old (3200 miles, though)
CBR900RR.

    I was making a slow (1-2MPH) U-Turn in a parking lot when I noticed a car
pulling out that would have smacked me.  Hit the brakes and started to put my
right foot down, but the cuff of my levis snagged on the footpeg.  Before I knew
it, the damn bike was on its right side on the pavement.

    I picked it up, motor still running at idle, and assessed the damage. Right
front handbrake lever broken, a few scratches on the right side lower fairing,
and scratches on the polished aluminum canister for the Yoshimura exhaust.  I'm
off to buy a new brake lever this morning...

 RY->   I hope you took lots of pictures of it when it was shiny, new, and
 RY-> clean ... :-)

    Unfortunately, not a one...

Michael Nelson, DoD #0726
1993 Honda CBR900RR
michael.nelson@f501.n914.z8.rbbs-net.org


 * Origin: SeaHunt BBS, San Francisco (415-431-0473) (FidoNet 8:914/501)
From: root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: TECH: Con Rod Angularity
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:12:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: elektro.1992Oct9.151211.3948
Followup-To: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org
Organization: Why do you suspect that?

In article <1992Oct08.150742.11827@bnr.uk> datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
>Jonathan E. Quist (jeq@i88.isc.com) wrote:
>: In article <1992Oct6.021043.3342@tcsi.com> markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer) writes:
>: >In article <1992Oct1.183521.8765@swlvx2.msd.ray.com>, csl@swl (Scott Lilliott) writes:
>: >
>: >>To what extent does Con Rod angularity play in the balancing and/or
>: >>vibration of an ICE?
>: 
>
>
> |     .
> |
> |     .
> |    . .
> |    ...
> |    . .                Sorry, couldn't resist...  Hey, they give us these
> |    . .                stupid toys to play with, can't help it of I get 
> |    . .                carried away, can I?
> |    . .
> |    . .                Nick (the stiff Biker)   MoG 17369  DAD 5016  Et al.
> |  ... ...
> | . .. .. .
> | . .   . .
> |_____________


Another strong candidate thread for rec.motorcycles.tech
and / or alt.dweebs.proving.whose.smartest

Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff
            {  Friends don't let friends ride Japanese bikes  }
From: noemi@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Noemi Berry)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: NTV600 Revealed!!
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:30:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Oct12.183050.14516
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department

>	Otherwise, the Revere is the Hawk.  Historically, the Hawk is
>a distant relative of the Honda VT500 Ascot, at least motor-wise.
>Like the Revere, the Ascot had shaft-drive but dual arms.  

actually, the Ascot is the FT500, with a single-cylinder engine.
you could be right about the VT500, but the name Ascot belongs
to the funky DPish chain-driven thumper.

the Revere visually looks like a Hawk with shaft drive, and IMHO
looks great.  it also comes in a nice deep maroon color :-).
the Hawk is not available in europe.

the only place i saw Reveres this summer in Europe was in German
Honda dealerships.  they don't have anywhere near the street
presence that Honda's mega-popular TransAlp 600V does.  but in
North America they may do just fine.

noemi
*---------------------------------------------------------------------*
noemi@cs.ucla.edu 	   				KotSBL
DoD #443  						'82 KZ 305 CSR
			    (my contribution to a healthy oil industry)
*---------------------------------------------------------------------*
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: ignore  -  test
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 04:48:12 GMT

In article <clayb.19.718508733@county.lmt.mn.org> clayb@county.lmt.mn.org (Clay Babcock) writes:
|In article <1992Oct6.230106.16712@colorado.edu> laszlo@piper.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:
|
|>all bicyclist should stay off the road. its for motorcycles.
|>since we pay road taxes that they (bicyclist) aren't willing
|>to. also there should be helemet laws for bicyclists
|
|Don't pay taxes?  Wake up! Even if I didn't ride a MotorCycle,
|I pay over $20,000 a year in state and fed taxes. A LOT of that
|is going to roads and highways, so I'll ride my bicycle ANYWHERE
|I WHAT.  You and your college student taxes (plus bike tabs) couldn't
|pave 5 feet of highway.  Why don't YOU stay off the road.

Okay, Laz, you got `im.  Keep the tip of the rod up; give him a little
line; play him hard.  I'll get the net when you get `im close to the boat.

Dave Svoboda (rubis@gagme.chi.il.us)        | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmm!)              |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!)              |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905      DoD #0330    COG 939        |   -- Evo Woman
Hey, Clay, say hi to Mark Wickham for me. :-)
From: cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com (R. Craig Dodson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HEY PEOPLE! was(Harley riders are JAGOFFS!!)
Date: 7 Oct 92 21:16:06 GMT
Reply-To: cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com

In article <1992Oct7.194848.9170@osf.org> jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S.  
Morris) writes:
> In article <7045@transfer.stratus.com> cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com writes:
> >Are these the same "JAP pieces of shit" that are pushing the frontiers
> >of modern superbike technology ? The same bikes that are now showing
> >up with ABS, fuel injection, and now a forkless front suspension ?
> 
> Uhhhh? Ex'squeeze me? The examples you picked were not "pushing the 
> frontiers". They were pioneered by BMW and Bimota.

Sorry - let me clarify. As with the auto, it took the Japanese to
perfect the technology and (the really big win) mass produce it
so average Joe's like me can afford it. I didn't mean to imply that
the Japanese were breaking new ground.

 This of course 
> doesn't apply to the the FJ11, which I'm assured offers everything everyone 
> ever wanted out of a motorcycle, now and forever more, with the minor 
> exception of not doing too good with pot roasts.

They're working on that now . . .
> 
> -John

Craig
From: n8643084@henson.cc.wwu.edu (owings matthew)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HEY PEOPLE! was(Harley riders are JAGOFFS!!)
Date: 7 Oct 92 21:26:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Oct7.212629.15473
Organization: Western Washington University

>This looks like fun. Think I'll just step in here and sling some shit.
>
>>Are these the same "JAP pieces of shit" that are pushing the frontiers
>>of modern superbike technology ? The same bikes that are now showing
>>up with ABS, fuel injection, and now a forkless front suspension ?
>>The same "pieces of shit" that have been reliable for the last 20 years,
>>unlike your "Hardley Drivensen" which is just finally getting with the
>>program ? 
>
>Yup. The disposable appliances that litter the junkyards at 5 years old,
>and aren't worth shit as scrap cause they're mostly plastic.
>

My dad's 73 XL 250 motorsport (HONDA if you don't know) gets daily use.
I will have my 5 year old 250 ninja forever.  Every once in a while there
will be a bike from any manufacturer that has character and a little 
something special.  For me, my ninja (87) is it.  To each his own.
Just as a side note, the XL (DP bike) has an OHC 4-VALVE single.  How's
that for early use of high tech.

Marty O.
87' 250 ninja type rider person
Best looking bike on the planet IMNSHO

"It's a feeling that we all wanna know
and it's an obsession to some
to keep the world in your rearview mirror
while you try to run down the sun"

"Wheels" by Rhestless Heart, et, al.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: harsh@eceris.ece.ncsu.edu (Harsh Potlapalli)
Subject: Which Side To Mount?
Organization: North Carolina State University, Raleigh
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 04:47:08 GMT

Since this thread had come up, I have one observation of one rider (me).
I always seem to mount from the traffic side of the street. That is,
in the US, I mount from the left side (swing leg over, get comfy, hit
starter button); and when I was in India I used to mount from the right side
(jump on kick starter till engine fires, swing leg over). 

(for those who came in late, traffic flow in India follows the British
system: all vehicles keep to their left).

Now, I swear, this was all done unconsciously. (no, I _was_ awake; I
just wasn't expending many EEG waves over the process). Mounting from
the traffic side is not logical yet I seem to be more comfortable this
way. In fact, I even push from the traffic side when pulling out of the
parking lot.

Anybody else have similar tales?

-harsh
From: elef@smarmy.Eng.Sun.COM (elaine 'beano' leffler)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Commie Beemers for sale
Date: 7 Oct 1992 23:16:31 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: elef@smarmy.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: smarmy.eng.sun.com

(j peterman chinese-built bmw ad deleted)

how about posting the specs for this beast?  as i recall, the weight
is 770 lbs (sure hope that includes the sidecar), top speed is 68 mph
at 4500 RPM, and most mileage efficient speed of travel is something
line 35 mph.  i'm pulling this from the depths of my memory, correct
me if these figures are wrong.

the booty, spoils and plunder mag is rockin'.

beanO 

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles