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From: stevew@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com (Steve Weet)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: SCCS problems with get
Date: 8 Jan 93 10:13:50 GMT
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    Does anybody have any ideas about this problem.

    1. I have an SCCS file owned by myself for which I am listed as a valid
       user. I have write permissions in the current directory and the file
	 without the s. prefix does not exist.

    2. I can perform the following command get -e s.progr3.4gl successfully
	 and I can delta the nodified code back in.

    3. When I attempt to just get the file with get s.progr3.4gl I get the
	 following error message :-

	 $ get s.progr3.4gl
	 2.5
	 ERROR [s.progr3.4gl]: curdir failed (ge20)
	 $

    4. Help for ge20 says :-

       ge20:
       "curdir failed"
       Re-check what you did.  Re-try the command.  If the problem persists,
       contact your local UNIX administrator.

    Anybody got any ideas ??


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From: st1y2@elroy.uh.edu (Gray, William W.)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Undelete
Date: 6 Jan 1993 01:06 CST
Organization: University of Houston
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hehhehe, that was one of the first things I learned
when I moved to UNIX. UNIX o   does not
have an "undelete" command. But what you can do is write a script file simler to h this and call it del


cp %1 /delete/%1
rm %1


this should copy the file to /delete and then
rm r  the file.  Once a week or so you go to /delete
and carefuly type rm -r *, AND I MEAN CAREFULLY!


Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: root@candle.uucp (Bruce Momjian)
Subject: Zip a lot smaller than compress:  Why?
Organization: a consultant's basement
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 04:40:12 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

I have a 2.2 Meg file that when compressed (ncompress version 4.2.4,
newest) is 777k, but when zipped (zip 1.9, newest) is only 340k.  The
file is an ISAM key file.

I am surprised that the zip is half the size of the compress file.  The
file has alot of nulls in it, if that is important.  I know that someone
posted that pre 4.2 version compress'es did bad compression with alot of
nulls, but he said the new version, ncompress, had fixed that.

Any ideas why or when this happens?  Are there ftp-able documents
outlining this?

I know there is a better group for this question but I don't get that
group here.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: digennar@fcs280s.ncifcrf.gov (Frank S. DiGennaro)
Subject: Dumb Question...
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 01:32:25 GMT

	This might seem a simple question, but here goes... does UNIX have an 'unerase'
command similar to DOS?


Frank DiGennaro
National Cancer Institute
Frederick, Md.
digennar@fcs280s.ncifcrf.gov
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: js@opus40.ix.de (Juergen Seeger)
Subject: Seyon problems
Organization: iX-Redaktion
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:17:38 GMT

I have compiled Seyon 1.7 on SunOS 4.1.1, but it don't work.
I always get the message "Cant open display .0:0" in the startup
xterm. It's NOT a problem of trivial server access, I've set 
xhost + (allowed for all). Any ideas?

Juergen Seeger

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: reddyp@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Pardhasaradhi A. Reddy)
Subject: Re: Funny mail !
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:47:02 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.092343.20412@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> zzsb@kursix.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (Wolfgang Sander-Beuermann) writes:
>
>>Hello,
>
>>I went to /usr/spool/mail and created a file with one of my 
>>friends names (user-id).
>
>[ ... lines deleted ... ]
>
>I would call this an administration fault of your machine: the spool
>directory of mail shouldn't be world writable; you should report it
>to your system manager.
>

	This is not really a problem because, when one adds a user, a
	mail box is created with username in the /usr/spool/mail
	directory always.(assuming, the sys admin didn't forget to
	create a mailbox while adding the account.). And the umask is set 
	to allow permissions to read and write only to the owner. In such a 
	case, no other user other than the owner can write or read the mail box. 	once, a mialbox has been created for a user with appropriate
	permissions,  it is not possible for any body else to create a
	mailbox with  diiferent permissions for the same user. :-)

	regards
	Pardha.
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 is strongly advised.

Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: jwwondra@socs.uts.edu.au (James Wondrasek)
Subject: A: Good seed for drand
Reply-To: jwwondra@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Date:  9 Jan 93 15:58:11 GMT

From now on I will put my faith in grep and not my own eyes...

The answer is use time() which returns type time_t which turns out to
be a typedef for a long...this is present in stdtypes.h which I didn't look
in.

You could use it like this:

    srand48( (long) time( (a_time_t_ptr) ) )


James Wondrasek

PS Thanks to everyone who emailed me their answers and their man pages :-)

jwwondra@socs.uts.edu.au

Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: umyue@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Kelvin Karkin Yue)
Subject: Does anyone know how to print files by a Fax machine ??
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:15:53 GMT

	Hi, I just want to know anyone knows how to print files from UNIX to a  Fax machine??
	Is there any program can do this??
Thanks

Kelvin YUE
umyue@ccu.umanitoba.ca 
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.admin
From: adams@liszt.berkeley.edu (Adam L. Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Dumb Question...
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:46:44 GMT

In article <C0EsA1.3u2@ncifcrf.gov> digennar@fcs280s.ncifcrf.gov (Frank S. DiGennaro) writes:
>	This might seem a simple question, but here goes... does UNIX have an 'unerase'
>command similar to DOS?
>

On our system, we have a set of commands which allow this action.  The
first command is aliased to 'rm'.  When used, instead of erasing the
file, it moves it to a separate directory.  Files in this directory
are maintained for one day (or user setable amount of time).  Latter,
if you want to 'unerase' the file, you issue the command 'unrm' with
the full pathname of the file.  The file is then retreived from the
directory and restored in the original directory.

Unfortunately, I don't know where we got these commands or if someone 
here hacked it up.  It's quite nice to have though.

-Adam Schwartz
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: dkeisen@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dave Eisen)
Subject: Re: [Q] tar destination across multiple volumes
Organization: Sequoia Peripherals, Inc.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 16:36:10 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.123731.26872@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> zzsb@kursix.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (Wolfgang Sander-Beuermann) writes:
>>I have heard that tar might be able to store its output across volumes.
>
>I've never heard about that.

This appears to be system specific. Tar most certainly can
store its output across volumes in SCO Unix. I don't know
what it does on which other systems.



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From: dansmith@Autodesk.COM (Daniel Louis Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: looking a utility to chdir without typing full path
Date: 10 Jan 93 06:56:45 GMT
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA

In <1993Jan9.005220.19993@cs.sandia.gov> jhgreen@cs.sandia.gov (Jethro H. Greene) writes:

> In article <1ikvt1INNqq2@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cl820@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Wei Jin Mai) writes:
> >
> >    I just switch to Unix from Dos. Is there a utility or shell that let you
> >change directory without typing full path? For example: chdir abc changes   
> >working directory to /usr/local/src/abc .
> >-- 

> "cd dir_name" should work.  Also, if you want to get fancy, play around with
> the CDPATH.

	$cdpath is a good answer.  Here's a method to expand upon it
and give yourself shortcuts to commonly visited directories...and without
aliases or scripts!

	My cdpath:

#       where to find directories we're cd'ing to...
set cdpath=(. ~ ~/.dirs  ~/{src,text} /usr{,/src,/local} /home .. ../.. )

	Note the "~/.dirs" directory.  Off of my home, I have
this directory for the sole purpose of making symbolic links to places
I go to frequently:

bermuda:dansmith/.dirs (1) :-) ll   [edited...]
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root     daemon        12 Oct 22  1991 ubx -> /usr/bin/X11/
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root     daemon        12 Oct 22  1991 ui -> /usr/include/
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root     daemon        16 Oct 22  1991 uix -> /usr/include/X11/
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root     daemon         8 Oct 22  1991 ul -> /usr/lib/
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root     daemon        14 Oct 22  1991 ulb -> /usr/local/bin/
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root     daemon        14 Oct 22  1991 ull -> /usr/local/lib/
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root     daemon        14 Oct 22  1991 uls -> /usr/local/src/
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root     daemon        18 Oct 22  1991 ulsx -> /usr/local/src/X11/
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root     daemon        12 Oct 22  1991 ulx -> /usr/lib/X11/
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root     daemon        15 Oct 22  1991 usn -> /usr/spool/news
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root     daemon        15 Oct 22  1991 usu -> /usr/spool/uucp/
bermuda:dansmith/.dirs (1) :-) 

	...so I can "cd ulb" and be in /usr/local/bin.  Just think of
the ~/.dirs (or whatever you wnat to call it) as "jump off" point
that can take you anywhere in the filesystem.

					Daniel
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From: qzhou@nisus.research.att.com (Qiru Zhou)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: sub
Date: 5 Jan 93 01:06:11 GMT

sub info-unix
From: switt@Pterodactyl.scg.hac.com (Steve Witt)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Patch Files
Date: 12 Jan 93 00:47:00 GMT
Reply-To: switt@triceratops.hac.com (Steve Witt)
Organization: Hughes Aircraft, Fullerton, CA

Hope this isn't a FAQ, I looked and couldn't find it.  

I don't know how to apply some of the patch files that are found with some software distributions (UNIX).  For example, I was playing around with the tin software distribution and it contains a patch file which was created using diff -rcs. It contains difference entries for all of the changed files in that one file.  I think I'm supposed to use this file as a script to ed and run it somehow to actually make the changes using a command such as 

	ed file < patch_file

It works for making single file changes (from the diff file) but not for multiple files.  I'm sure something else needs to be done, but can't figure it out.  I'm sure this is pretty basic and any help would be appreciated.  Thanks...
From: hxb+@pitt.edu (Xie N Huiman)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Where can I find source code for perl?
Keywords: perl, unix, precompilers, macro routines
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:51:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: hxb@unixd3.cis.pitt.edu

I would like to obtain usage notes and source code for the unix public domain utility perl, in order to implement a simple macro substitution routine.  I would appreciate if someone could tell me where to find this, or to e-mail the source code to 

hxb+@pitt.edu

Thank you for your help!  


Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: pollapal@nyx.cs.du.edu (Philip Ollapally)
Subject: Need source for Script (or equivalent) for SVR3
Summary: Need the (location of) source code for "Script" or equivalent for AT&T
Keywords: script photo
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 01:39:15 GMT

I am looking for a screen capture program such as "Script" for
an AT&T 3B2/1000 running System V Rel 3.2. You may e-mail directly
to  ollapally@tsu.bitnet or provide me with then name and location
of a file that I can ftp. Thanks 



Xref: sparky comp.unix.questions:15274 comp.unix.misc:4865 comp.unix.admin:6956
From: kbeal@amber (Ken Beal)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Dumb Question...
Date: 7 Jan 93 18:05:44 GMT
Organization: Harris CSD, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
NNTP-Posting-Host: amber.ssd.csd.harris.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Arjan de Bruin#124 (arjanb@cc.mey.nl) wrote:
: In article <C0EsA1.3u2@ncifcrf.gov> digennar@fcs280s.ncifcrf.gov (Frank S. DiGennaro) writes:
: >	This might seem a simple question, but here goes... does UNIX have an 'unerase'
: >command similar to DOS?
: No Frank.
: I suppose you would like to 'unerase' a recently deleted file. Well
: disk blocks that come free when a file is deleted come available in the free 
: list. This Free list is a LIFO , last in first out. So even if you could manage
: to figure out which disk blocks did belong to the deleted file you can almost
: be sure that at least one of that blocks is in use or has been in use by some
: other file by that time. So this answers your question and also tells you the
: WHY.

Hmm...  I wonder, if they made the free list a FIFO, you think that'd be
a step toward solving this problem?  I wonder how difficult that would be...
A couple more variables needed, probably, but not an insurmountable problem.
Then the file would be available for unerasing for quite a while (a different
post mentioned Norton's alleged attempts, which involve shoving the file
into a "holding area" for 5 minutes, but it'd be nicer as a FIFO -- you
won't have a preset time limit, and you won't be consuming resources in
case the filesystem is nearing its limit).

I have a different solution, myself: I have aliased the "vi" command (no
editor flames, please :-)  ), so that it copies the file I'm editing into
a $HOME/backup_files/ directory, and adds the current date and time to the
end of it (so that multiple edits of the same file won't overwrite each
other).  Then I've got another program in crontab which runs at 4:00 am and
deletes all files more than 2 days old.  It's a bit complicated solution,
and it >does< take up extra space, but it beats going to the backup tapes.

(fwiw, undeleting with my method is a bit more complicated; I've gotta go
in, figure out which one I want, type the full name, date and time included,
remember what directory it came from since >that< isn't saved along with
it, and copy it back to its original name.  But I don't need it all that
often, so it's good enough for me! :-)  ).
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: holger@is.morgan.com (Holger Veith)
Subject: SUN read MacIntosh file ?
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:25:44 GMT

I scanned an image on a MacIntosh onto a Mac-formatted-diskette.  My question
is how can I load this into my sun?  Eventually I hope to use Alchemy to 
convert it.  I have used 'mread' which reads PC formatted 3.5" diskettes.
Is there a macread/macdir utility out there?  Or any other ideas?

Thank you,

Holger.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: bilan@netcom.com (Steve Bilan)
Subject: Re: Sockets: How do I detect when it has unexpectedly closed
Organization: Netcom
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:42:27 GMT

vasco@bvl.pt (antonio vasconcelos) writes:
>ejohnson@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Eric E. Johnson) writes:
>: I know how to close a connection.  That's easy.  My question is: how do
>: I detect that a socket (AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM) has been unexpectedly 
>: disconnected from its remote client?  I'm assuming a case where the
>: remote client has crashed and was unable to send out a "closing"
>: message.
>
>then, in the main() you just have to setup signal handlers.
>
>	signal(SIGINT,byebye);
>	signal(SIGPIPE,snifserver);
>
>By the way, if the client dies, the server should recive a SIGPIPE too.


That works fine for an app with one socket, but if you have an
app with two (or more) sockets open, how can you detect an abnormal
socket close and know which socket it's on?




M, BATR..
..Steve Bilan
From: rlyle@nl.oracle.com (Rob Lyle  Wizard of Ozje)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Allowing only user a,b, and c to read my dir?
Keywords: access control lists permissions security
Date: 6 Jan 93 14:17:16 GMT
Followup-To: comp.unix.questions
Organization: Oracle Europe

In article <C0Ex28.L70@flatlin.ka.sub.org>, bad@flatlin.ka.sub.org (Christoph Badura) writes:
|> In <1993Jan05.150002.11955@eng.umd.edu> lind@eng.umd.edu (Charles A. Lind) writes:
|> >	Is there a way (shell, c code, $#@&%) that I could allow
|> >certain users access to certain directories.  That is I have a
|> >directory called mystuff that I wish user1 user2 to have access to, 
|> >and I have directory neat_stuff that I wish user2 and user3 to have
|> >access to.  Is there a way of doing this?
|> 
|> If user1 and user2 belong to group1 but user3 not you can deny user3
|> access to directory mystuff if it is owned by group1 and the mode is
|> something like 0770 (i.e. accessible by the group but not by all
|> others).
|> -- 

Also, if you run IBM AIX, or HP-UX then you can use access control lists.  RTFM
regarding those 8-)

--Rob.


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.osf.misc
From: wws@iscp.bellcore.com (Wayne Scott)
Subject: Re: getting system date/time from another system
Organization: Bellcore
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 21:38:42 GMT
Keywords: is it appropriate to use RPCs?

In article <1993Jan6.213225.14974@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, wws@iscp.bellcore.com (Wayne Scott) writes:
|> 
|> I'm working on an X/Motif application in which I need to get the system time
|> from another machine.  Is there a recommended/preferred way to do this?
|> I'm just starting to read about RPCs and I'm wondering if I'm on the best path.
|> I would appreciate any advice, other than - continue to RTFM!
|> 
|> Thank you,
|> Wayne


I forgot to mention...
the environment is DEC/Alpha OSF/1.

Wayne
From: rjq@phys.ksu.edu (Rob Quinn)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: What happens when you remove a file being written in to?
Date: 13 Jan 1993 01:45:09 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: bohr.phys.ksu.edu

In <1993Jan12.022956.16090@cs.sandia.gov> jhgreen@cs.sandia.gov (Jethro H. Greene) writes:
[removes an open file...]
>What happens?  Is there a threat that I could write over another person's
>file who happens to be "dealt" that particular disk area?

 This is from the unlink(2V) man page under SunOS 4.1.2:

     unlink() removes the directory entry named by  the  pathname
     pointed to by path and decrements the link count of the file
     referred to by that entry.  If this entry was the last  link
     to  the  file,  and  no  process has the file open, then all
     resources associated with the file are reclaimed.  If,  how-
     ever,  the file was open in any process, the actual resource
     reclamation is delayed until it is closed, even  though  the
     directory entry has disappeared.

unlink() is at the center of rm.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.shell
From: karlon@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Karlon West)
Subject: Re: Allowing only user a,b, and c to read my dir?
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:59:40 GMT
Organization: BNR, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

If your system supports it, do a man on chacl
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: hykok@nyx.cs.du.edu (Herbie Husker)
Subject: Re:  Newer Unix Zip
Organization: Anon. Hacker Incorporation
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 00:49:20 GMT

Hello fellow netter:

   PKWARE has just make pkzip 2.04c available to public.  It has several newer
stuff like deflating capability, EMS, XMS usage, etc...  My question is, is 
there a compatible unix zip version available via anon. ftp?

   I am also looking for a newer version of unsit, which will extract the 
newer MAC *.SIT files.  I have several *.SIT files that I want to use, but
the unsit program that is available for UNIX is too old and do not understand
the newer format.  Can someone tell me what is the latest version of this and
where I can get it?  

   The only way I can think of is to download it to a MAC, then extract the 
*.SIT file, and upload it back up to my account before converting them to 
other types of compression format like zip, etc.  This is tiring and irritating
and I would much rather use only one type of machine that can do everything.
Any suggestions/recommendations to this will be much appreciated.

                          Hon-Yin dude.
                          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: zi@edf.fr (Zixiong WANG)
Subject: How to print a message, from within a shell script, to its own stderr
Organization: EDF Direction des Etudes et Recherches
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 11:10:56 GMT

	How do you print a message, from within a shell script, to its own stderr.
	(as fprintf(stderr, "Error message") in C)

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Zixiong WANG
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DER, Electricite de France
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