From: bb099@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Adam Trent Phillips)
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Subject: Re: What if there is a god?
Date: 12 Dec 1992 03:08:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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910773f@ace.acadiau.ca (HEATHER LEE FYFFE) on Fri Dec 11 17:55:39 1992  posted:
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|In article <05O9CPI@minnie.zdv.uni-mainz.de> haass@mzdmza .... writes
|>Subject: Re: What if there is a god?
|>Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 16:56:51 GMT
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|>for ourselves, if we are told not to use it, because Big Daddy wants us to
|>follow his will; oh yes, naturally he knews much better than ourselves what's
|>good for us. either - or, decide yourself, because you can't have both sides
|>at the same time. Seems as if we are not free to reject God, if he blesses
|>only those who accept him. What are those blessings? I don't miss any! But
|>what does it matter, if we reject him, since he loves us still? Brrr, I don't
|>want to get his love, I think I don't need a clucking hen. If I would need,
|>why did I become adult?
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|
|He knows what's best for us in the same way that a parent knows what's best 
|for their child... if you let a little kid do whatever they thought was 
|appropriate, they wouldn't live very long, would they.  So the parent, 
 
	But why did not god put that knowledge into our heads when 
we where born.
 
 
|having lived longer, matured, and gotten a bit of intelligence, tells the 
|child, `don't eat all those cookies, you'll get sick'.  The child hollers 
|and screams, the child feels that the parent is forcing their ideals down 
|the child's throat, the child does not believe in the authority of the 
|parent.  Some children will rebel, and eat all the cookies.  Of course, the 
 
	But if a parent says "if my kid eats too many cookies s/he must
die" I would think them to be scum. 
 
|child gets sick, because the parent was, of course, right.  Some children, 
|even if they disobeyed at firt, eventually realise that the parent was 
|right.  Sometimes the realization does not come until years later, when the 
|child says, `hey, the time they told me that, and I thought at the time that 
|it was so illogical and stupid, well it makes sense now.  They were right.'
|God is just the ultimate parent.  And someday, we'll all say, gosh, He was 
|right.
 
	But if I was about to have a kid and could have the child born 
knowing how to take care of themselves, I would do that. If god made
us so much "dumber" then he/she/it should not complain when we do "dumb"
things. The problem is that the things god tells us are wrong are not.
It is not wrong to question the government you live under. It is not a crime
to be in love with a person of the other gender. I don't believe these
theists when they say "god/I love you" and then say I should obey the
book that says I should face hatred and violence for my sexual orientation.
 
 
 
|
|Thanks for your time,
|
|The Buzzard

-- 
A. TRENT PHILLIPS |" A mirror is a negative space with a frame and a place for
  also known as   | your face, it reveals what the rest of us see. It conceals
   WHITE  ROOK    | what you'd like you to be."--Blue Oyster Cult
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