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From: johnt@meaddata.com (John Townsend)
Subject: Visicalc Lives!
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:41:39 GMT

Whereas Appleworks GS is pretty inept at anything it tries to do, I dug out my
Visicalc (Advanced Version) package to do some spreadsheet work.  Unfortunately,
this is a pre-mousetext era program, and they used the wrong character set for
inverse uppercase characters, so they all come out as mousetext.  Anybody got a
patch to fix this?  Thanks!

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From: isc10327@nusunix3.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE)
Subject: Re: modem cable
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 01:02:19 GMT

dkl@xcluud.sccsi.com (David Karl Leikam) writes:
: In article <fmlin.19se@terapin.com> fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin) writes:
: >I need a hardware handshake cable for my GS.  Will a Mac hardware handshake
: >cable work?  If not where can I get one?  It will be for either a Zoom or a
: >Supra.  
: >
: 
:   I have some related questions, myself. I just acquired a 9600 v32/v42.bis
: external modem. (CPI's Viva 9600). I've gotten it to work adequately with
: my pc, but its main job in life is on my //GS, and my BBS. I'm still back
: in the dark ages, softwarewise: I run Macos, and like it.
:  
:   By carefully shutting off all special features of the modem, I've gotten
: it to accept connections at 2400. Today I managed to get a plain 9600
: connection from work, but that may have been a fluke.  I've been using the
: ACOS cable, but also acquired/tried a regular cable, which it didn't like
: at all. No sweat.
:  
:   I need general info and advice on getting it to answer in error-correction
: mode, at 14,400 bps. If it takes an SSC instead of the modem port, well, I
: have an SSC but hate to do that, what with the keypresses needed for it to
: autobaud. If that's the only way, though...(shrug)  Has anyone been
: through this before? Any advice/info/driver-updates-I-don't-know-about?
: 

First, I want to say a big "Thank-You" to Todd Whitesel (Todd, are you
there?) for giving me the cable pinouts.  I've finally managed to get my
Best 14496 modem working on my Apple IIGS!!  It runs at practically any
baud rate from 2400 to 14400 with v.42 and MNP5 enabled, giving it
effective rates of 19200 and more.

I had the same problems as you did in getting the high-speed modem to
work.  You at least managed to get yours working at 2400; mine wouldn't
work at all previously.  All I did was to get a new cable configured and
that solved all my problems.

- DOTW - :)

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From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: gs.os.FST?
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:02:44 GMT

ncp@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Neal Pitts) writes:

[Where to fit neat ProDOS II stuff?]
>machines.  To be clear, I imagined ProDOS II to be a extended ProDOS with new
>capabilities while keeping compatability with old ProDOS.  Where it would fit
>is beyond me. :)  I'll give that some thought, but I would think it would be
>housed on a seperate disk, like GS/OS boot disks are now.

Well, the problem is more a memory problem. There is space on the disk, and
with 3.5" mechanisms, even more so, but where do you fit it in the 64k of
your average //e or //+ and still have memory enough for programs to run?
I do not think it's a good idea. We have GS/OS, that is supposed to be
the successor of ProDOS. So let's use it. Yesno?

Soenke
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From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Subject: Re: Flopticals...any successful usage out there?
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 23:12:34 GMT

kippley@cwis.unomaha.edu (Kip Kippley) writes:

>Applied Engineering has a Floptical External 21 Megabyte SCSI drive which also
>doubles as an 800K and 1.44 Meg external floppy disk drive. SRP is $699.00.

Ok, I've been seeing reports of this on GEnie too. I am skeptical of the 800K
figure, I think it is 720K (i.e. MS-DOS, not Apple 3.5), because these mechs
have no reason to support the variable speed scheme Apple uses. It sounds like
AE is also using the Insite mechanism, although it is possible they are using
the one from Briers.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
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From: t_captain@bluemoon.rn.com (Tc Wilson)
Subject: Re: SyQuest removable drives on the GS?
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 22:57:51 EDT

slhood@bluemoon.rn.com (Stephen L. Hood) writes:

>         I am considering purchasing a SyQuest removable 44 megabyte hard 
> drive for use with my GS.  Will this item work with the Apple High-Speed 
> SCSI card, or will I have to buy a RAMFast?
>         Also, how well is this drive supported by GS/OS?  For example, can 
> I "drag to trash" and eject the disk, or must I manually eject?  And how 
> well does it perform under ProDOS 8?
> 

I've been using a Syquest for a few weeks, and it works fine, both with a 
RamFast and a HiSpeed SCSI card.

My drive is very fast - it hits 19.x ms on both the HIS and RF cards (the 
RF is about .1-.2 ms faster).

However, my drive doesn't allow ejecting the disk under software control; 
this is dependant on the software on the mech. Tony Diaz's drive will 
eject the cart under software control (ie: dragging into the trash), but 
mine will just drop the cart offline until I either exit/reenter Finder or 
manually eject the cart/put it back in.

In other words, it works just dandy, even under P8.


Tc Wilson/The Captain           "Programming is an art form
t.captain@bluemoon.rn.com        that fights back."
.... or try: TCQ, The Captain's Quarters (614) 294-0556, 300-38400 hst
From: chiu@ucsee.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Looking for TOM PHELPS
Date: 2 Sep 1992 20:58:04 GMT
Organization: University of California Society of Electrical Engineers (UCSEE)
Reply-To: chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsee.berkeley.edu
Summary: Don't forget...
Keywords: PATCH
Originator: chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU

In article <9209011746.AA19263@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Paul.Benson@VNET.IBM.COM writes:
>In <Btv6wr.9oq@well.sf.ca.us> Joe Kohn writes:
>>Dean just called me, and wanted me to pass on a message. It seems like BRCC
>>has finally secured the rights to the Lost Infocom Classics. I think they'd
>>like to pay you some $$$$ to use your Infocom ProDOS based front end.

While you're busy negotiating to sell your program Tom, be sure to change
the location where you store filename; $0200 tend to get clobbered when
the machine it's running on has a real time clock (non-GS machines that is)
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From: woody@micor.ocunix.on.ca (MICHEL BOIS)
Subject: Gif-IFF-GS
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 11:48:58 EDT

Hi everyone. I downloaded this 2 program combo from a local BBS the other 
day. One is a Gif to Iff converter and the other is a Iff to GS converter. 
After converting a GIF of which I converted from a 360 * 200 SHR, I tried 
the second program and I got a strange result. The picture was split up into 
several pictures of diffrents heights one above the other from the top of 
the screen to the bottom. I was wondering if this was a gimmick to get me to 
buy this shareware program and if it is well I'm not impressed. I'd prefer a 
gimmick like disabling the save command. This way I know the program 
converts the files properly. Can anyone help.
 
Woody
From: usr6473a@TSO.UC.EDU (Christopher Tarnowieckyi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Hypercard on IIgs... does it exist?
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:15:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: tso.9209041915.AA14452
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

FORWARDED FROM: /mail/64/usr6473a(#4220) From:info-apple-request@apple.com 09/02/92 23:22
Hi!

A friend of mine asked me this question a while back and I still don't know
the answer. Can you guys help me? Does Apple make Hypercard for the IIgs?
If yes, is it fully compatible with Hypercard for the Mac?

Thanks for any advice. Please mail to me.


-- 
| Bruno Frechette        | "You know why dogs rub their ass on the grass?" |
| frechett@dmi.usherb.ca |   "Because it FEELS great!"  - The Fisher King  |

-----FORWARDED BY: usr6473a(Christopher Tarnowieckyi)
Yes, it's called Hypercard IIGS, and it is somewhat compatible with 
Hypercard.  The only real problem is that Hypercard GS supports color
while Hypercard doesn't.  If you wish to convert stacks from one to the
other you'll need a copy of HyperMover.

HyperMover is a set of two stacks, one for HyperCard and one for HyperCard
IIGS.  It will translate the stacks between the tow systems for you.  Look
for it at you local users group, as most dealers will not know anything
about the IIGS, except that it's been discontinued.  (Which by the way 
isn't true, they're just don't want to learn anything about a IIGS)

Chris Tarnowieckyi
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From: kippley@cwis.unomaha.edu (Kip Kippley)
Subject: Re: Apple's Education sales & stats
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Distribution: World
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 23:05:58 GMT

Here's the rest of that article from MacWeek for clarity.
Students give Apple high marks, 
but administrators stick with IBM.
 
by Lisa Picarille, MacWeek 08.24.92
Volume 6 #31
 
Cupertino, Calif. - Despite winning the hearts and minds of students and faculty - 
and thus the lionUs share of the education market - Apple has yet to make significant inroads 
among the nationUs school administrators.
 
Apple officials claim that sales of its products into the education market 
accounted for more than half of Apple USAUs fiscal 1991 revenues, or about 1.6 billion.
 
However, while Apple dominated the K-12 segment during the 1991-92 school 
year with more than 65 percent of the market and had a 35 percent slice of the higher 
education pie, it is struggling to attract education administrators away from IBM Corp., 
which is entrenched at the enterprise level, according to information compiled by 
Quality Education Data, Inc. of Denver.
 
So far, AppleUs push into the educational arena has been mostly through 
low end systems, such as the popular Macintosh LC II. The companyUs early success in the
K-12 market was spurred by the Apple II, which now has an installed base of more than 
3.5 million users according to Apple.
 
Now Apple is attempting to migrate those Apple II users to the LC II. 
And it seems to be working - about 90 percent of the machines sold into that 
market during AppleUs fiscal 1991 year were Macintoshes, QED said.
 
Dan Ness, senior analyst for Computer Intelligence Inc., 
a market research company based in La Jolla, Calif., estimates that 
four out of 10 computers sold into the K-12 market are from Apple.

** Kip **
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From: lucifer@world.std.com (Kevin S Green)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Genealogical software experiences?
Date: 29 Aug 92 00:07:14 GMT
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

Has anyone found/used any genealogical software on an
Apple // (particularly a //gs)? I already have the
Tiny Tafel program from AOL but would like to hear the
experiences of others out there to help me get started.

Thanks.
-- 
Kevin S. Green / lucifer@world.std.com / {xylogics;uunet}!world!lucifer
               /America Online: Gargoth
From: ifai645@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Paul C. Janzen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Parallel printing
Date: 3 Sep 92 01:45:43 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

Sorry if this is a FAQ, but:

My mom has an ancient Apple ][+, whose parallel printer (a Mannessman
Talley, reputedly IBM Graphics Printer compatbile) recently died.  So
I told her to just hook our IBM Proprinter to print until she can
replace the original one.

But alas, it wasn't that simple. Any print job just hangs. 

So my question is this: What's the difference between the Apple and 
Proprinter implementations of the parallel port? How do I get this to 
work? Does anyone have any idea what's wrong? 

Thanks...

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Paul C. Janzen                Do infants have as much fun in infancy as
ifai645@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu    adults do in adultery?
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From: kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: From Apple Corp. To Us.
Date: 30 Aug 92 11:56:39 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Sun Aug 30 92 at 00:04:04 (EST)

> From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
> By the way, I need colour Postscript Level 2! Is their hope for that?

No doubt you've already seen Matt D.'s response that the Laserwriter drivers
in System 6.01 will work properly on the Laserwriter IIg and IIf. I don't know
if that means they support color or not. One can hope.

                    -=> Message from Kim Brennan <=-
                      (kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com)
         {Cathouse BBS (301) 840-8567 3/12/24/9600 V.32 24 hours}
      * "This is Rumor Control, and here are the facts." (Alien 3) *
From: rheinze@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Undelete files - help?
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:30:37 EDT
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC


Can anyone tell me if there is a program that will undelete
files on an Apple /// -  yes a 3.

I accidently deleted some text files and could not recover them.
I don't want that to happen again.

I would like to undelete files and alphabetize them too, if possible.
From: chris@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Chris Jacobson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: PnP Demo
Date: 27 Aug 92 06:45:14 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

jpenne@ee.ualberta.ca (Jerry Penner) writes:
>I have downloaded PnP.Demo.SHK and it doesn't work.  GSHK unpacks it
>fine (ie. reports no maladies), and I can view the dox, etc, but when
>it runs, the text screen goes to gibberish and then the screen
>blackens and the thing hangs.
>
>Suggestions anyone?  Does it fiddle with my battery RAM or something
>(like checking if a certain value > X, and not running if so??)  Maybe
>sticking my name in the BRAM wasn't a good idea?? :)
>-- 

I had no problem unpacking and using the demo on my IIgs.  I'm using a
ROM 1 (one) machine with GS/OS v5.04.  It's pretty swift, but I don't know
how to play it since the docs were a teach file I can't read.  Could someone
send me the docs in plain ASCII, so I know what I'm doing.


Chris Jacobson
People-NET [pnet51]                          INTERNET: chris@pnet51.orb.mn.org
Minneapolis, MN                                   AOL: cjacobson@aol.com
From: gregd@pro-desert.cts.com (Greg DaCosta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: modem cable
Date: 28 Aug 92 12:33:09 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: ProLine [pro-desert], Greg DaCosta (Sysop)

In <fmlin.19se@terapin.com> fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin) writes:

> I need a hardware handshake cable for my GS.  Will a Mac hardware handshake
> cable work?  If not where can I get one?  It will be for either a Zoom or a
> Supra.  

I picked mine up from Insync Software (authors of ProTERM 3.0) and have had
no problems.  They can be reached at 602/992-5515.



    /\ |\  Pro-Desert BBS  (619/251-1297) 300-14400
    \> |/  Internet: gregd@pro-desert.cts.com

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From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Subject: Re: When is the tick counter incremented?
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 03:37:05 GMT

hackett@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Mike Hackett) writes:

>reading TN #39 several times, I'm not entirely sure exactly when the tick
>counter is incremented.  The note seems to suggest that the vertical
>blanking interrupt occurs at line 192.  (Actually, it often refers to the
>vertical blanking actually occurring at 192, but this is not true.)
>The vertical counter should then be $1C0, I believe.

heh ... //e history time folks. The //e has a vertical blanking signal you can
read at $C019 if I remember right. The Mega II in the IIgs, seeing as how it
was originally designed for a low-cost //e model and not the IIgs, also
generates this signal. This signal is output on a pin of the Mega II and the
VGC uses it to generate an interrupt on the edge that counts. This edge occurs
at line 192 all the time -- you've got to understand that the Mega II does all
the actual timing generation, and the VGC simply genlocks to it when SHR mode
is active. The timing of the VBL signal does not change because it is hardwired
into the Mega II timing generator. Once this interrupt is generated, it usually
gets handled by the heartbeat queue manager, one of whose tasks is to increment
the system tick count. This increment is atomic since it happens from the IRQ
handler, BUT it occurs at a variable delay after the VBL interrupt hits. This
is due to indeterminacy in the response time -- if another interrupt is already
being handled, the heartbeat manager must wait until it's done before it can
run. There also may be variable delays within the heartbeat queue handler
itself, depending on what order it increments the counter and calls the tasks
in the queue (it's been a while since I traced through the sucker with GSbug).

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
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From: jbush@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (J Eric Bush)
Subject: Re: Prodos 8 2.0.1 killing keyboard
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:58:16 GMT


If your keyboard is frozen, you might want to try disabling Easy Access on the
IIgs.  I don't know if that will solve all of your problems, but it solved
many of the ones that I was having.  Note: Easy Access was only having problems
on Rom 01 machines.
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From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (tuu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Flopticals from AE
Date: 2 Sep 92 03:20:43 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


In article <9209020154.AA29467@tso.uc.edu> usr6473a@TSO.UC.EDU (Christopher Tarnowieckyi) writes:
}Hey AE was handing out infomational sheets at the Apple Central Expo a.k.a.
}Kansas Fest, that described their new floptical and had the following 
}number for support or information calls: 1-800-554-MACS.  So don't be so
}hasty to assume that you will have to use a 900 number!

I just saw an external PLI floptical drive at CompUSA for $499.  So when
these compatibility issues are definitively worked out, be assured you'll
be able to get them much cheaper than AE's.
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\Mail me:Get INFOCOM GAMES RERELEASED for //s, ULT VI GS done,for UNIX GS info/
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From: fisher2557@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple II RWTS codes.
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:54:42 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <m0mNh96-000130C@crash.cts.com>, ncp@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Neal Pitts) writes:
>>> The stuff in DOS 3.3 reads the raw data and then analyzes it,
> while the ProDOS routine analyzes it while it's reading (where analyze ==
> convert from 6+2 encoding to plain data). <<
> 
> Is there any good reason for ProDOS to do this?  I would think that it would
> have taken the speed penalty for a good reason...

Woz had a deadline
-- 

later,
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From: fisher2557@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: ProTerm 3.0/VT-100 emulator/vi editor
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:52:20 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Aug27.130515.8450@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, mvats@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mudit P Vats) writes:
> In article <1ncnl-.derich@netcom.com> derich@netcom.com (Scott A. Steinbrink) writes:
>>YO, guys.
>>
>> I'm having a problem having my Proterm 3.0 emulate VT-100 on my APple IIGS
>> When I use an UNIX editor (vi for example), it would not function the 
>> up/down arrows and right and left arrows do strange things. That's why
>> whenever I need to edit a file or to response alongside a reply, I use another
>> computer. I much rather use my own.  Any ideas?
>>
>>
>>- Scott
> 
> 
> I don't know if there is a patch available for this or not, but the proper
> control keys to press in order to achieve the up/down/right/left are the
> following :
> 
> 		up    - CONTROL-p
> 		down  - CONTROL-n
> 		left  - CONTROL-b
> 		right - CONTROL-f
> 
> 		------------------
> 
> 		p => previous
> 		n => next
> 		b => back
> 		f => forward
> 
> that should help........... later.

I have the same exact problem. (I'm netting thru a VAX right now!) What I did
was to use my macros to define the necessary keys.  All the special keys are
escape sequences.  They all begin with ctrl bracket(^]) plus a regular bracket
(]) and the founr arrows each tack on a letter A,B,C or D.  so macro 1 can be
made to be "pr /^]]A/" and macro 2 "pr /^]]B" and so forth.  I can't remember
off hand what the page up and page down keys are.  Ctrl-B is the DO key. 
Ctrl-K is remember. (in the TPU editor) Lemme tell ya, those were a
pain-and-a-half to figure out. (somewhere I have a sheet with almost ALL of
them)  Good luck.  Oh, ctrl-W refreshes the screen in the TPU editor.
Additional goodie: those macros can give you quite the advantage when playing
on-line games that require fast reactions!!!  You can tear apart Operation
Overkill II with them!
-- 

later,
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From: irsman@iastate.edu (Ian Schmidt)
Subject: Re: Blue Helmet & TimeLord
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 22:45:09 GMT

Yes, BH is supposed to crash.  Unfortunately, the copy I got (from Gog) doesn't
have the complete source, just source to portions of it so its unfinishable.
Oil Landers appears to be the same (FYI, Oil Landers = FTA Stellar 7).


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