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From: schieb@shark.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian D. Schieber)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Can I see your image processing applications?
Date: 11 Dec 92 22:55:58 GMT


Hi,
 In an effort to propose the use of Khoros as a development platform
I was hoping that developers that have an application based on the
Khoros package might be willing to share their stuff. Specifically,
I'd like to run an application on my machine that demonstrates that
Khoros can be used to develop an imagery/graphics package.

Our efforts involve porting an existing VAX (argh) analysis system
to UNIX and making use of an existing set of tools that can meet
our imagery/graphics needs. I posted this earlier:

>  > > I would like to propose software development using Khoros at my site.
>  > >
>  > > What I am trying to figure out is whether we might be able to use
>  > > the Khoros libraries as development tools for imagery/graphics and
>  > > continue to be able to call our C and FORTRAN code plus use our
>  > > own GUI.
>  > >
>  > > We have a package that incorporates 200+ individual programs, each with
>  > > their own specific function(s) and user interface. How feasible is it
>  > > to use Khoros as a set of libraries for imagery and graphics that we
>  > > could rely on (and not have to maintain ourselves).

If anyone has a package that they are at least partially proud of I'd
love to see it (i.e., download it, run it, show it off, etc).

 

Thanks,
--Brian

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From: leyva@helios.ece.arizona.edu (Francisco A. Leyva)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: More porting questions...
Date: 13 Dec 92 17:25:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.42126


	Hi:

	I posted news before about porting khoros to a PC or the linux 
operating system and I recived some response, I forgot then to ask also
if is posible to port it to Xenix operating system (SCO Xenix).

Thanks,



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From: PETERSJL@p3.ams.wpafb.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: xprism3
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:31:50 GMT


                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:     18-Dec-1992 09:43am EST
                                        From:     Jennifer L. Peters
                                                  PETERSJL
                                        Dept:     ASD/ SCSA
                                        Tel No:   255-2715

TO:  Remote Addressee                     ( _DDN[KHOROS@CHAMA.EECE.UNM.EDU] )


Subject: xprism3




To the Khoros crew:

I'm using xprism2 and xprism3 on a Sun4.  I recently set up a separate user 
account (where the data lives) and set the PATH, KHOROS_HOME, etc. so xprism2 
runs fine.  However, xprism3 will not run with command line option.  I get a 
"segmentation fault (core dump)" error.

If I say "xprism3" I can set everything up with the buttons.

If I say 
"xprism3 -i11 file -rows11 120 -np1"
I get the error.

I've checked everything at least twice.  Have you got any ideas of what's 
making it act like this?

Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: schultz@halley.est.3m.com (John C. Schultz)
Subject: Re: Self-describing files (KHOROS mailing)
In-reply-to: schieb@shark.gsfc.nasa.gov's message of Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:05:08 GMT
Organization: 3M Company, 3M Center, Minnesota, USA
	<1992Dec17.140508.24974@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 18:34:33 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.140508.24974@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> schieb@shark.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian D. Schieber) writes:

   In article <42200@pprg.eece.unm.edu.pprg.unm.edu>, huffman@donna.gsfc.nasa.gov (George Huffman) writes:
...
   |> doing more with HDF from the Khoros viewpoint is time and $$$
   ...is an obvious issue, but is the group aware enough as to the size of
   EOS and what direct support for its 'favorite son' will mean to KHOROS?

   --Brian

Not to start a flame war but why don't interested group(s) pay for an HDF
interface and/or join the Consortium?

My company became an affliate (cheapo) consortium member to get our opinion
heard on Khoros directions and get help in implementing some custom functions.
I am not particularly interested in HDF (whatever it is - ACR/NEMA would be
preferable IMHO) and would rather have expanded functionality and more
interactive capability.

If you want YOUR priorities considered, join the consortium.  

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From: sauer@chama.eece.unm.edu (Tom Sauer)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: Problem in installing toolbox (Classfiy)
Date: 9 Dec 92 16:50:37 GMT

On Nov 29, 22:03, Colin Poon wrote:
} Subject: Problem in installing toolbox (Classfiy)
>> I am trying to install the Classify toolbox available in the Khoros toolbox directory.
>> When I tried to finish installation by typing in the command: "make install", I
>> received the following error messages:
>> 
>> $KHOROS_HOME/repos/config/scripts/bsdinst.sh:  install:  not found
>> 
>> ...
>> ...
>> ...
>> 
>> /usr/bin/ld:
>> Undefined:
>> lvrdclust
>> *** Error code 1
>> 
>> Stop.
>> 
>> 
>> I wonder what is wrong with my installation.  The first error message, i.e.,
>> "... install: not found "  also appears when I try to install other toolbox
>> such as ionbeam.
>> 
>> I appreciate any help as soon as possible.

First make sure you have added the new toolbox to your toolbox file. You can
use kraftsman to do this. Next in the src directory execute the following
	make Makefile Makefiles
	make depend
	make install

>> 
>> 
>> Colin
}-- End of excerpt from Colin Poon

This should fix your problems.

good luck,

Tom


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Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: schieb@shark.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian D. Schieber)
Subject: KHROS and HDF anyone?
Organization: Lab for Hydrospheric Processes
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:26:38 GMT


Hi,
 Yes, I'm still evaluating Khoros and am wondering if there is any
support, official or otherwise for the HDF data format standard. 

If you are making a converter or know of one PLEASE drop me an e-line. 


Thanks,
--Brian

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Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: kelly@c3serve.c3.lanl.gov (Patrick M. Kelly)
Subject: New lvflip () routine available
Originator: kelly@wienerdog.c3.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:35:14 GMT


Another little patch for things... lvflip () does not supprt
BIT data.  The file lvflip.new.c holds a modified lvflip.c 
that does.
 
Of course, a standard disclaimer applies to this code.  Neither the 
author, the Government, nor the University of California makes any warranty, 
express or implied, or assumes any liability responsibility for the use of 
this software.
 
     Pat

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From: CHRISTOF RICKEN <ricken@ifn.ing.tu-bs.de>
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: problem with cantata colors
Date: 12 Dec 92 03:57:41 GMT

Hello,

We have a (little, but annoying) problem with cantata.

We are using a heterogen Network, consisting of:

1. VAXstations, running VMS 5.5, some kind of X and the Motif-Window-Manager
   (display: 1 to 4 bitplanes).

2. One SparcStationII-clone, running SunOS 4.1.1, X11R4 and the Open-Look-
   Window-Manager coming with X11R4 (8 bitplanes).

3. A few HP-Apollo-Workstations (series 700 and 400) running HP-UX 8.0,
   X11(R5?) and the Motif-Window-Manager (1 bitplane).

Since there is no port of Khoros for VMS and we have no root-access to
the HP's, we have installed Khoros (1.0 PL 5) on the SparcStation, wanting
to use it from all machines in the network by telnet-ing to the Sparc and
setting the display to the local Machine.

Everything works fine, except of one:
The connction-lines between the glyphs are displayed black on a black
Background (as far as the VAXstations are concerned) or white on a white
background (HP's), so you can't see them. So if the number of glyphs used
grows, you become confused, let's say, you can't work at all. Invoking the
routines from command line is not satisfactory and pleasant, too.

It seems that the cantata.LineColor and the cantata.CanvasColor entrys in
the .Xdefaults file are ignored, although other entries are not. Changes
of the two colors have no effect at all if you are telnet-ing, but have
at the Sparc itself.

I don't know if this is a problem of cantata, of X or of the hardware (maybe
it's one of cantata using the hardware through X), but it appears using
khoros, so i'm posting it here.

Does anyone have any idea?

Thank you

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From: root@shark.gsfc.nasa.gov (Super-User)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: Self-describing files (KHOROS mailing)
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:06:51 GMT

> 
> Brian,
>   I am happy to see that at least one other user or potential user of Khoros
> is also concerned about and HDF interface. Unfortunately, you are the only
> person who has responded to my message other than the Khoros developers.
> Basically they said that an HDF interface may be considered for V2.0, however
> there is no guarantee. Also, there are always conversion programs available
> for translating between formats. 
> 
> I don't know about you but having to pass our files through filters to use
> Khoros is really not an acceptable solution for us. One of the reasons we
> chose to go with a format such as HDF was so that we would not have to keep
> translating when passing files among different machine architectures. I do
> believe they could be making a mistake by not providing an interface.  
> 
> So, I don't know if I was of much help but we should keep in touch if either
> of us hear more. Thanks for your interest and good luck.
> 
> Andy Pursch
> 
Andy, 
 Thanks for the reply.  I do not think we're alone on this. I've been tracking
mail lately and there is a definite ground swell on interest. 

Its unfortunate if Khoros does not 'get with it' on
this one.  EOS for one is a BIG project which in the next few years will
bloom substantially. Khoros, by remaining free to the user community is 
in a great position if they get with it now.  Even a commitment at this
point would carry a lot of weight with the people here at NASA.  IDL
has jumped on it and from what I've heard it was not that hard for them...

Thanks,
--Brian

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Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: schultz@halley.est.3m.com (John C. Schultz)
Subject: cubic spline based interpolation in Khoros?
Organization: 3M Company, 3M Center, Minnesota, USA
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 21:18:48 GMT

I am looking for a cubic spline interpolation capability under Khoros.

The manual says that vwarp uses a bilinear basis function for it's
warping and vpolyco.

Also vresize uses a bilinear basis.

Is there anyone who has a cubic (or higher order) basis function?

Thanks.
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From: donna@peabody.eece.unm.edu (Donna Koechner)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: image warping
Date: 19 Dec 92 19:59:08 GMT

On Dec 19,  2:20pm, Ivan Vesely wrote:
} Subject: image warping
} Hello,
} 
} Wejust got KHOROS installed and I'm trying to learn it.  The main  
} purpose for getting it is for warping some images.
} 
} I constructed a flow diagram in cantata where I input two images, and  
} pipe them into the warpimage routine.  When I try to run warpimage in  
} interactive mode, it gets about halfway through loading and then  
} quits giving me the following error message:
} 
} X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
}   Major opcode of failed request:  72 (X_PutImage)
}   Minor opcode of failed request:  0
}   Resource id in failed request:  0x4400062
}   Serial number of failed request:  511
}   Current serial number in output stream:  515
} Major X error encountered for display ':0.0'! Unable to recover.
} 
} This occurs only in the interactive warpimage routine.  Some of the  
} others that I ran, such as displaying and rotating images work fine.
} 
} Any ideas?
} 
} ---
} Ivan Vesely, Electrical Engineering and Medical Biophysics
} University of Western Ontario,     vesely@next.heart.rri.uwo.ca
}-- End of excerpt from Ivan Vesely


>From the error that you sent, it looks like you have a 24-bit display.  
In the current version of Khoros, warpimage cannot display on 24-bit.  
It will happily remotely display to an 8-bit display.  (24-bit will
be supported much more completely in Khoros 2.0.)

If you do not need interactive warping (ie. if you already know your
source and destination coordinates, or your warping coefficients),
you can use the non interactive "vwarp" program.

Donna
From: huffman@donna.gsfc.nasa.gov (George Huffman)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: Self-describing files (KHOROS mailing)
Date: 16 Dec 92 20:52:30 GMT

Brian - following up on our conversation, and this mail, the main barrier to
doing more with HDF from the Khoros viewpoint is time and $$$.  If the
Consortium members make it a priority it will happen; if not, it's a nice
idea that will accidently get done if it's easy or someone in the "community"
does it.  I'd guess that an interface to HDF isn't real hard for a hard-
core Khoros programmer, but otherwise, wading through the code would be
challenging.  

I wouldn't discount a "translator" approach; the data connections between
khoros programs can be implemented either as files (the default) or
through shared memory (mapped memory? it's the choice other than
"file" when you click on a connection in cantata).  So, the
translation program can be viewed as getting the data into memory with
minimal overhead for translating the header.

On the other hand, I exactly agree that Khoros will be more attractive
to NASA projects if HDF is "supported".  

George Huffman
From: leslie@ais.org (Leslie Gail Adiska)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: khoros on-line help
Date: 14 Dec 92 00:44:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.42127


 Thank you for your help on my last set of khoros questions, It was a
great help.

 I have a few more.
  When I run run a khoros program such as edit image and I click on
the help button I get a message stating that the help file was not
found. How can I correct this problem?

                              Thank You Much,
                              Leslie Gail Adiska
From: V G Prakash <vprakash@cs.ulowell.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: postscript output of cantata
Date: 16 Dec 92 20:52:30 GMT


1.Postscript of the program.

	I wanted to get a postscript (color) output of the cantata workspace (only)
with network of glyphs. Does khoros have a routine to do this?
	If it is not available (which is most likely, since I searched it) it 
might worthwhile to be added in the new version. 

2. Label to Glyph

	 In the present version, there is no facility for a user defined label to
glyph. It is necessary to have this feature especially in large programs.  
I know there is comment glyph, which is not what I wanted. 
Can this be implemented in future versions?

  
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From: bryden@csdc03.eece.unm.edu. (Kevin R. Bryden)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Permission To Reproduce Manual
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:25:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.42191

To Whom It May Concern:

Martin Marietta Information Systems' Civil Systems department has acqiured the Khoros 1.0 patch 5 software package from your University via ftp.  Khoros is up and running in our lab with several users.  We recently printed the online manual volumes 0,1 and 2.  We would like to make 1-5 more copies of the manual.  However, it is a very tedious task to print the manual, as well as, a waste of paper since it is printed single sided.  We would like to take the first printed copy and reproduce it as a double si





ded document via our repro-graphics department.  Ordinarily this is not a problem unless the original document is copyrighted.  Our repo-graphics department will not reproduce any document which has a copyright printed on it unless we have written permission from the publisher/author to do so. This includes University documents also.  It would be greatly appreciated if the appropriate person at your University could respond with a written notice giving Martin Marietta permi!
ssion to reproduce the document fo

r internal use only.  The notice can be sent either e-mail or fax.  Although a fax is most preferred (appears more authentic).  Thankyou for your cooperation in handling this matter in a timely fashion.  The Khoros system is working well for our needs at this point in time.


Sincerily,
	Kevin R. Bryden
	Phone: 407-826-1347 or 407-826-1405
	Fax:   407-826-7895
From: daniel.albrecht@jrc.it (Daniel Albrecht)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Graphics with Khoros message (#4)
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:22:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.42193


Hello,

        As a still new Khoros user, I wrote some Vroutines which are working
fine.
I am interested in writing HYBRID GRAPHICS(NON interactive) routines.
This to be able to superimpose on B/W (8 bits/pixels)images, overlay
graphics.
Khoros documentation ENCOURAGES users to do so !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I use a Sun4 standard machine (O.S. (4.1.2)) + Khoros(1.0) + Fortran(1.5)
I know very well 'C' language but I am NOT that used to Xwindows
programming.

<<<<<<< THIS MY 4th MESSAGE ABOUT GRAPHICS WITH KHOROS >>>>>>>>

I would like to :
        1) to display simulatenously in my program 2 images.
               - 1 source image.
               - 1 destination image.
        2) to be able to add some graphics on the source image.
        3) to be able to add some graphics and modify the pixels
           on the destination image.

Problems:
I MUST APOLOGISE FOR MY PRECEDENT MESSAGE(#3).
My program was roughly good.
It appeared to me that the ONLY problem I have is :

 when a particular task is a bit heavy(longer process),
 the next task could be carried out before the end of the first one !!!

 ex.: xvd_update_image();   /* longer process updates & clears annotations
*/
      X2D_drawline();       /* short process */

      xvd_update_image takes a longer time and finishes
      after X2D_drawline. X2D_drawline once carried out is erased by
      xvd_update_image which ends.


                     -------------------------
                     |       Questions       |
                     -------------------------

1) Is there a way to SYNCHRONIZE or WAIT for the end of an heavy process
????
2) Is it easily possible to UNdraw any graphic function ???

Regards

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Albrecht daniel       Image Processing laboratory
daniel.albrecht@cen.jrc.it              ( E.E.C. - Europe )
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From: kk@hpl-opus.hpl.hp.com (Konstantinos Konstantinides)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:29:36 GMT
Subject: Re: problem with cantata colors
Organization: HP Labs, High Speed Electronics Dept., Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros

In comp.soft-sys.khoros, CHRISTOF RICKEN <ricken@ifn.ing.tu-bs.de> writes:

> Hello,
> 
> We have a (little, but annoying) problem with cantata.
> 
> We are using a heterogen Network, consisting of:
> 
> 1. VAXstations, running VMS 5.5, some kind of X and the Motif-Window-Manager
>    (display: 1 to 4 bitplanes).
> 
> 2. One SparcStationII-clone, running SunOS 4.1.1, X11R4 and the Open-Look-
>    Window-Manager coming with X11R4 (8 bitplanes).
> 
> 3. A few HP-Apollo-Workstations (series 700 and 400) running HP-UX 8.0,
>    X11(R5?) and the Motif-Window-Manager (1 bitplane).
> 
> Since there is no port of Khoros for VMS and we have no root-access to
> the HP's, we have installed Khoros (1.0 PL 5) on the SparcStation, wanting
> to use it from all machines in the network by telnet-ing to the Sparc and
> setting the display to the local Machine.
> 
> Everything works fine, except of one:
> The connction-lines between the glyphs are displayed black on a black
> Background (as far as the VAXstations are concerned) or white on a white
> background (HP's), so you can't see them. So if the number of glyphs used
> grows, you become confused, let's say, you can't work at all. Invoking the
> routines from command line is not satisfactory and pleasant, too.
> 
> It seems that the cantata.LineColor and the cantata.CanvasColor entrys in
> the .Xdefaults file are ignored, although other entries are not. Changes
> of the two colors have no effect at all if you are telnet-ing, but have
> at the Sparc itself.

You need to set-up the appropriate defaults (i.e via .Xdefaults) in
directories on all three machines.
HP under VUE does not read /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults.

If you put all the khoros related defaults in let's say Khoros.defaults
and then run: xrdb -merge Khoros.defaults on every system, then
everything should work OK.

K. Konstantinides