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From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Enough of this DOD stuff
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:43:18 PDT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <1992Sep28.181828.15603@leland.Stanford.EDU>, 928s4@leland.Stanford.EDU (Benjamin Sloss) writes:
> This ba.mc board is a great place to exchange information
> which is relevant to us locals; let's keep it that way, and not let it 
> degenerate into another flame forum with a smaller distribution.

amen.

-- 
-- bob pasker
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Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: edg@netcom.com (Ed Greenberg)
Subject: Re: RSS
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 14:58:33 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba

>...and I did say in my posting that I would recommend people with no 
>experience to take this course.  All I said was I did not learn anything.
>
>---Masayuki Karahashi
>c60c-3gi@web.berkeley.edu

Nothing? Absolutely nothing?  How about the riding exercises?  Did you
score perfectly on both level 1 and level 2 evaluations?  Did the
instructors never yell a correction at you?

Perhaps you did not learn anything...  That would not surprise me.
However, was there was anything there for you to learn, that you did not?
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From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Enough of this DOD stuff
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:06:35 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View

}Ob Input:  If you are going south from San Jose to Gilroy or beyond, the old
}Monterey Highway is MUCH nice than 101.  Not twisty, but prettier, more to
}see, goes right through downtown Morgan Hill and Gilroy - doesn't take much
}longer, either. 101 is straight, bumpy, raingrooved, and ugly till you get
}down past Gilroy a ways.  Get onto Monterey Highway in southern San Jose
}at Blossom Hill Road or Bernal Road - it rejoins 101 just south of Gilroy.

Haven't been able to find my Thomas Guide; I think it is hidden in the
bowels of my wife's car (*shudder*). Does the Monterey Road that Road
Rider is on in San Jose become the Monterey Highway?
-- 
Curtis Jackson		cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com	(415) 962 4905
USPA #A-10080 (lapsed)				DoD #0721  '81 Maxim 650
  "They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
   safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1759)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: c60c-3gi@web-3e.berkeley.edu (Masayuki Karahashi)
Subject: Re: Do you want more MC parking? We got it last year, why not now?
Keywords: How to get it!
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:21:53 GMT

>Strange.. I headed down to the meter enforcement administrative office
>three weeks ago and specifically asked about this, and the woman I
>spoke with said it was legal as long as the meter was fed.

I think I am starting to see the problem about parking on the southside.
The administrators and the metermaid seems to be saying two different 
things, so no one really knows how the "law" is supposed to be enforced.
I think I will stoip another metermaid and ask again, see what they say
now...

>The real reason I contest tickets is that I have an overdeveloped sense
>of justice (at least when it comes to me :-) ) and an underdeveloped
>income.

speeking of income, I had a friend a couple years back that worked at the 
accounting office in the city haa or something like that, I don't remember
clearly.  All I remember was that he was telling me that the city of Berkeley
gets 30 percent of its income from parking tickets...said ain't it?

>Fellow netters, do EE's actually enjoy life and make any money?

I don't know about EE...Im CS....and yes I do enjoy life.

>                                          /-\o /-()  -- -  --   -
>   Manish Vij    ::    '89 EX500          \_/ \\/ )  -- -    --
>   mvij@ocf.berkeley.edu                       |/_\  -- -  --   - 
>                                                \_/.  .  . . ........

hey, I have the same bike...(this posting is starting to sound more like
a preivate email...sorry)...92 though..
From: c60c-3gi@web-3e.berkeley.edu (Masayuki Karahashi)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: RSS
Date: 29 Sep 92 05:22:39 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of California, Berkeley

I made a posting apologizing before I read jim's follow-up posting on 
my posting.

and just to make my point clear also, please take a course if you've
never been formally taught.  again, sorry about the way I put it.

---Masayuki Karahashi
c60c-3gi@web.berkeley.edu
"I think it's time to change major"
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: phil@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Phil Stone)
Subject: Re: Crazed Taxi Drivers in SF
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr, Calif.
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:58:46 GMT

In article <8060@public.BTR.COM> news@btr.BTR.COM (news admin news@btr.com) writes:
>
> I split lanes here in SF. I probably shouldn't (it's not like
> my bike will overheat waiting for a traffic light to change)
> but I regard it as my prerogative ('cause car drivers try to 
> kill me every day).
>
> Anyway, I've noticed that taxi drivers appear to resent this
> splitting lanes mightily. Many's the time I've had a taxi 
> driver try to kill me [...]
>
> Anyone else have this experience?
>
> Stef
>-- 
>Stefan Fielding-Isaacs (sfi@btr.com): (415) 626-6069 voice/pager: (415) 599-4876

Hmm, I'm much more wary of the Muni bus drivers than the taxi hacks.
I can almost guarantee that a Muni bus will run a freshly red light
if given the opportunity.

I also split lanes in the city, if it seems prudent.  Sometimes I'll
skip it if I have a bad feeling about it (I count on a lot of instinct
in city driving).

I'd say that you're right to be wary of the taxi drivers; they're
very agressive.  But I've also found that most of them are quite
observant, as well, which puts them head and shoulders above the
average city cager.  Now that you've singled them out as your particular
nemesis, I'm sure you can deal with them - forewarned is forearmed, and
they still can't touch you if you don't want them to.  Dodge and
accelerate, dodge and accelerate.


 Phil Stone         (phil@eos.arc.nasa.gov | ...ames!eos!phil)
 '83 R80ST               DoD #95              "Motorcycles OK"

Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: c60c-3gi@web-3e.berkeley.edu (Masayuki Karahashi)
Subject: Re: RSS
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:29:39 GMT

In article <wn+pbn=.edg@netcom.com> edg@netcom.com (Ed Greenberg) writes:

>Nothing? Absolutely nothing?  How about the riding exercises?  Did you
>score perfectly on both level 1 and level 2 evaluations?  Did the
>instructors never yell a correction at you?

he told me to cover the clutch all the time.  (He also said in class, we
don't need to cover the clutch all the time out in the street, but in the
range, its a rule)  However, I noticed myself coving the clutch most of the
time when I was rifing today...and I can't remember if I did before the class
..strange...but I think I did... (?_?)

>Perhaps you did not learn anything...  That would not surprise me.
>However, was there was anything there for you to learn, that you did not?

I learned I can go from Berkeley to Newark during traffic hours in about 
45 minutes... :)  Seriously though, my friend who took the course with me
(who didn't have any riding experience) said he learned A LOT.  So, I like
I tried to say before, I recommend the course for anyone who is self taught 
or has never been formally taught by an teaching expert.

---Masayuki Karahashi
c60c-3gi@web.berkeley.edu
"Since I don't have a project due for a while, I no longer see a need
 to change major :)"
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Subject: Apologies to ba.motorcycles readers
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:49:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.181828.15603@leland.Stanford.EDU> 928s4@leland.Stanford.EDU (Benjamin Sloss) writes:
}  One of the things I really liked about ba.mc was that it maintained a high
}signal-to-noise ratio, a property notable for its absence in rec.mc.  Now
}we've had the first invasion of "I've got a DOD number and you don't 
}hahahahahaha" and followup messages.  I'd like to plead with my fellow
}posters to keep that sort of stuff over in rec. where everyone likes
}to play those games.  This ba.mc board is a great place to exchange information
}which is relevant to us locals; let's keep it that way, and not let it 
}degenerate into another flame forum with a smaller distribution.

My sincere apologies, for it was I who opened the floodgates. I hope
that my actions since will serve to shut it quickly.
-- 
Curtis Jackson		cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com	(415) 962 4905
USPA #A-10080 (lapsed)				DoD #0721  '81 Maxim 650
  "They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
   safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1759)
From: uzn10@ccc.amdahl.com (Uday Naik)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Rent m/c's
Date: 29 Sep 92 00:20:43 GMT
Reply-To: uzn10@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Uday Naik)
Distribution: ba
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Hi:

	Is it possible to rent a 250cc m/c ?  
	I need it for DMV test. 
	
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From: ptar@junkyard.asd.sgi.com (Pierre Tardif)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Where can I rent a motorcycle in the bay area?
Date: 29 Sep 1992 17:33:51 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: junkyard.asd.sgi.com


Where can I rent a motorcycle in the bay area?

My friend from Quebec City had reservations for an FLHS 
but learned from the owner of DoubleU (sp?) in San Francisco 
that the bike has been totaled. (Sorry, I don't know the condition of
the rider.) They don't know if they can get another bike
by Oct 23 and his plane tickets are not refundable.

The only other place I know about is the California Motorcycle Rental
in Moss Beach. They only have K75s and they charge more than DoubleU.

Any ideas?

thanks

ptar
From: odin@cats.ucsc.edu (Jon Granrose)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Independent Biker mag
Date: 5 Oct 1992 05:44:32 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu



Anyone else out there ever read a copy of Independent Biker??  I stumbled
across one last week at the local Denny's.  I found the writing refreshing
due to its lack of stodginess and since the ads were local, much more
useful.  I got a kick out of reading one guy's saga about becoming an
independent racer and what it all involved (who hasn't thought of racing
Sears Point or Laguna Seca?  ;-).

My only problem is that I haven't been able to find a place that has them
in Santa Cruz.  Anyone know of one?

Jon
-- 
 _____________________________________________________________________________
|Jon Granrose        |ARPA: odin@ucscb.UCSC.EDU    '84 VF500F pilot|  // Only |
|Cowell College, UCSC|      odin@cats.ucsc.edu      DoD #097       |\X/ Amiga!|
|Santa Cruz, CA 95064|  "Groovy" - Ash, Evil Dead II                          |
From: danac@morc.asd.sgi.com (Dana Crom)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Upcoming Motorcycle Safety and Care classes
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:01:57 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: morc.asd.sgi.com

Though I'd post an upcoming couple of classes to the net.  Jim Pereyra of
South County Organized Rider Education (S.C.O.R.E.) in Gilroy  is having a
MSF/ERC class on Saturday, October 24th and a hands-on motorcycle/scooter
inspection and care class on Sunday, October 25th.   He also has some more
MSF/RSS courses scheduled, but I am not sure on the dates.

(MSF - Motorcycle Safety Foundation.  ERC - Experienced Rider Course.
RSS - Road Safety and Strategy.  The RSS is the course California requires
all under-21 applicants to complete if they want a Motorcycle endorsement
for their license.  The ERC recommends that you have either completed the
RSS or have at least 5,000 recent miles on a motorcycle.)

I just finished taking my MSF/RSS course with SCORE this last weekend.
Though I just got back on a bike recently after a long layoff, I had
30,000+ miles behind me;  even so, I learned a *lot* and am definitely glad
I did it.  (Even nicer, the Honda Riders Assoc will repay my class fee,
and my insurance agent - Mike Felder - will give me a 15% break on already
low rates!).

For those of you who are wondering if it would be worthwhile, the answer
is almost certainly yes, even if you have been riding for years.  Yes,
I knew a lot of the things already, but if nothing else, you get the
chance to try out emergency maneuvers on someone ELSE's bike & don't
need to worry about trashing up your own.

If you are interested in any of his classes, give Jim a call at:

    (408) 623-2434.
    
He has openings in all upcoming classes. Oh, yeah, fees - I was quoted
RSS - $140, ERC $65, and $35 dollars for the inspection and care class.
For the care class, you can add extra friends to your enrollment for an
additional $20 each.

I have no financial ties or connections with SCORE outside of being a
satisfied graduate of the RSS courses - I figured that someone out there
in netland might be interested, and I know from experience that Jim Pereyra
is a good instructor.  If anyone from the net attends the I & C class, come
up and say howdy - I plan to be there, too.
-- 
-----------------------+------------------------+------------------------------
Dana Crom    DoD #0679 | Silicon Graphics, Inc. |  Smile - let them *WONDER* 
danac@morc.asd.sgi.com | (415) 390-1449         |  what you've been up to . . .
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray)
Subject: Re: Independent Biker mag
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:31:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.235238.618@halfdome.sf.ca.us> bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
>In article <1aoko0INNfld@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, odin@cats.ucsc.edu (Jon Granrose) writes:
>> Anyone else out there ever read a copy of Independent Biker??  
>
>blech.  its a cross between GQ and "interview" and city bike.  basically a
>wanna be mag.  when i first saw it about 18 months ago, the promoter said, "we
>don't get 'bought' by the ads like _city bike_ does."  well, guess who the
>publishers are (or closely allied)?  mars custom cycle on folsom in sf.  

Yea, I noticed that too.  Their addresses are the same, they 'cover'
stuff that mars custom cycle has, like their new dyno.   A couple
issues have been mostly advertising for Mars.

The pictures are interesting though, as are some of the interviews.
You just have to read it with a critical eye.



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  Eric Murray                                             ericm@microunity.com
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Xref: sparky ba.motorcycles:410 ba.market.vehicles:3488 rec.motorcycles:33816
From: mercer@newton.apple.com (Paul Mercer)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,ba.market.vehicles,rec.motorcycles
Subject: '92 Ducati 907ie for sale
Date: 29 Sep 92 08:09:09 GMT
Followup-To: ba.motorcycles
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

'92 Ducati 907ie for sale
-------------------------

 - perfect condition (never dropped, no scratches)
 - 2.4K miles
 - very red, very Italian
 - recently serviced at Monroe Motors
 - stock equipment
    - fuel injected Desmodromic v-twin
    - 17" wheels
    - 3.5 and 5.5" rubber
    - factory Euro fuel injection chip
    - Euro turn signals
 - asking $8K
 - call 415-326-6605

Paul Mercer
Apple Computer, Inc.
standard disclaimers
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray)
Subject: Re: Motorcyclist Hits Bicyclist on Skyline Blvd. (10/4/92, 1:30p)
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:32:59 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.225507.12597@tcsi.com> markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer) writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.154708.28091@col.hp.com>, arnie@col (Arnie Berger) writes:
>
>>The first few time that I took my bike with me to Palo Alto on business trips
>>I had wonderful rides on Skyline Blvd. Then I made the mistake of riding there
>>on a Sunday afternoon. I lasted about 5 miles. By the fifth mile my legs were
>>shaking so badly I had to get off. The reason? These crazy guys on these Ninja
>>motorcycles blazing by at 70 or 80 mph. 
>
>Arnie, if you're uncomfortable riding your bicycle in traffic, perhaps
>you should stick to bicycle trails.  Don't blame everyone else for
>your own problems.

Mark, there's a difference between riding in traffic and having squids
come by at 105 mph with six inches clearance.  Skyline on a weekend is
definately the worst road I've ever ridden for that sort of thing.
Many of the other bicycle racers I used to ride with would try
to avoid Skyline on sunny weekends.

There aren't many motorcyclists who come by at high speed while using
you as an apex marker, but there's enough to get you to notice them.
Then, every time you hear a race-exaust sportbike coming up the road
behind you, you're wondering if this is the guy who won't be able to
adjust his line to get past you.  You can hear 'em coming for a long
time, so you have a while to wonder if this guy's going to nail you...

After a while I learned to move out into the lane a bit until I thought
they'd seen me, then squeeze back over onto the white line on the edge
of the road to get an extra foot or so over what the rider intended to
give me.  It helps.



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  Eric Murray                                             ericm@microunity.com
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Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: zowie@daedalus.stanford.edu (Craig "Powderkeg" DeForest)
Subject: Re: Anbody use "Accinelli's Cycle Goodies"?
Keywords: SLIMY
Organization: Stanford Center for Space Science and Astrophysics
Distribution: ba
Date: 27 Sep 92 12:31:58

In article <foo@bar> jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
   Some guy approached me while I was gassing up the cb750 and said
   "Looks like you'll be needing a rear tire soon -- I've got great
   prices and good service."  Handed me a card that says:

   Accinelli's CYcle Goodies
	...

I've had several Accinelli cards placed on my bike, over the two years
I've been riding around Palo Alto / Mtn View.  I visited there once,
when I needed new tires.  The guy operates out of his garage.
Probably will fix you up, but his traditional high-pressure sales
tactics really turned me off.  He kept trying to sell me really soft,
sticky tires that I didn't want, because "they're more fun".

At that time, my bike was seriously loud -- it needed new stuffing for
the Kerker muffler.  He offered to re-pack the muffler for a "mere"
$75.  Considering that re-packing it took me, a muffler novice, about
ten minutes to do (unscrew a single screw, pull core, wrap core, push
core, replace screw), I consider him a bit of a con artist.

I ended up getting tires from Cycle City.  They have pretty reasonable
prices, and, with them, I know that they'll provide support if I've
got any problems (Accinelli's vocabulary doesn't seem to include the
word `warranty'.)
--
...Behind me, the crowd was still cheering as Cal kicked off the 3rd quarter.
   One of the cops examined my band field pass; two more stood ready in case I
   bludgeoned the fourth with my flute.  He snickered and said, "You'll 
   *never* ride a motorcycle in this stadium *again*!"
From: cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com (C J Silverio)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Enough of this DOD stuff
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:38:29 GMT
Reply-To: cj@sgi.com (C J Silverio)
Organization: SGI TechPubs
NNTP-Posting-Host: eno.wpd.sgi.com

---
cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
|Haven't been able to find my Thomas Guide; I think it is hidden in the
|bowels of my wife's car (*shudder*). Does the Monterey Road that Road
|Rider is on in San Jose become the Monterey Highway?

I think that road *is* the Monterey Highway at that point.
What a pain it is right now, too, with all that construction.

---
cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com      C J Silverio/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720
"I hate it when you want a coke from the coke machine but it's the 
kind of coke machine without an ethernet connection so you have to 
walk over there yourself."  --Sho Kuwamoto
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Crazed Taxi Drivers in SF
Date: 30 Sep 92 12:56:01 PDT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <8060@public.BTR.COM>, news@btr.BTR.COM (news admin news@btr.com) writes:
>  Anyway, I've noticed that taxi drivers appear to resent this
>  splitting lanes mightily. Many's the time I've had a taxi 
>  driver try to kill me as I pull away from the light. 

get a faster bike or more balls!


-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
--
From: dschlot@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Dave Schlotthauer)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Independent Biker mag
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:02:18 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035

In article <1992Oct5.173113.18643@microunity.com> ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) writes:
>In article <1992Oct4.235238.618@halfdome.sf.ca.us> bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
>>In article <1aoko0INNfld@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, odin@cats.ucsc.edu (Jon Granrose) writes:
>>> Anyone else out there ever read a copy of Independent Biker??  
>>
>>blech.  its a cross between GQ and "interview" and city bike.  basically a
>>wanna be mag.  when i first saw it about 18 months ago, the promoter said, "we
>>don't get 'bought' by the ads like _city bike_ does."  well, guess who the
>>publishers are (or closely allied)?  mars custom cycle on folsom in sf.  
>
>Yea, I noticed that too.  Their addresses are the same, they 'cover'
>stuff that mars custom cycle has, like their new dyno.   A couple
>issues have been mostly advertising for Mars.
>
>The pictures are interesting though, as are some of the interviews.
>You just have to read it with a critical eye.
>
Ditto. But you should be able to find copies at your local dealership.
I notice most of them carry it.

>
>--
>  Eric Murray                                             ericm@microunity.com
>    This package contains one (1) Usenet news posting.  Do not eat.