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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 07:17:03 -0400
From:         gaynet@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
Subject:      GayNet Digest Volume 5 Issue 668

In this issue:
                               new member
                               Addresses
                          Arresting Behaviour
                              GAMIT DAMCE
                        University Guide Online
                             introductions
           There Can't Be Compromise With Evil [Op-Ed Piece]
                              OLTL request

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Date:    Sun, 30 Aug 92  18:35:50 EDT
From: sfamc8c%buacca.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Subject: new member

Hi, I would like to join.

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From: jasonl5493@aol.com
Subject: Addresses
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 20:28:49 EDT

Time to write to TV producers:

One Life to LIve:
ABC TV
56 West 66th St
NY, NY 10023

Mr. Darren Star
Executive Producer
Melrose Place
Spelling Enterprises
5700 Wilshire Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90036

By the way, does anyone know how to get back issues of the Gay Digest?  Such
as October of 1991?

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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 22:22:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher.Young@cs.cmu.edu
Subject: Arresting Behaviour

I thought the show was kind of funny too. The other thing I thought was
 positivewas that the one coming out was a lesbian. It seems like the vast
 majority of
the time it's a guy, so I felt like this a was step in balancing things out
a bit.

Anyway, it was pretty funny.

                                                  -- Chris.

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From: whitneyh@Athena.MIT.EDU
Subject: GAMIT DAMCE
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 22:44:23 EDT

There will be a dance held by Gays, lesbians, bisexuals & friends At MIT (GAMIT)
on friday, sept. 11 at 9pm in the MIT student Center, 84 Mass. Ave, Cambridge.
The admission is $3 w/student ID and $4 w/o and $1 more after 10pm. There will
be Beer and Wine served with proper ID. For further info. call GAMIT lounge at
253-5440.

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 02:35:11 EDT
From: (bmcconne) <bmcconne@vtserf.cc.vt.edu>
Subject: University Guide Online

Attention fellow motssers.

The national directory of GLB student groups is now online in automagical
form. This service will allow anyone with a Touchtone phone to search for
GLB student, faculty and alumni groups at universities nationwide. It is
online now for beta testing. Please give us a call and send feedback.
(You can also search for bars, restaurants, accomodations, media and
current events too!)

GLB university groups will be able to post information, including up to 99
announcements about upcoming events, on the system as often as they like,
for free. The directory is completely automatic, and we will extract
address lists, etc. into videotex form for distribution on the Internet as
a public service (read: no charge). After Sept. 17th, the general public
will search the national database on a pay-per-call (900) basis.

Later this week, we'll have a messaging system online which will allow
organizations to send messages directly to other organizations around their
city, state or region. More on this later.

To search the service, just call (703)951-GIDE [4433], and select option 4
to conduct a sample search. After a few messages, you'll be asked to enter
the abbreviation of the state for which you want more information. Then,
you'll be asked if you want to search our listing of organizations and
businesses [i.e. bars, restaurants, etc], a list of this week's current
events, or to search the university guide (press 3). It then gives you a
list of universities, pick one by pressing *, and then a list of groups at
that school.

Our goal is to place community organizations, businesses and events at
everyone's fingertips, everywhere in the nation, and to bring the community
closer together.

Again, the beta-test number is (703)951-4433, give us a call, and spread
the word.

Please send feedback to <bmcconne@vtssi.vt.edu>

Enjoy!
Brian
Brian S McConnell
1104 Ascot Lane
Blacksburg, VA 24060
REPLY TO !!! -> bmcconne@vtssi.vt.edu

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 92 11:16:29 SAT
From: neil <STUC319%SAUPM00.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu>
Organization: King Fahd University of Petroleum and Minerals, S.A.
Subject:      introductions

dear gentlemen;
               i am interested in making dialouges thruogh this list.
i will be happy to hear from any one who is interested in this as well.

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From: MPA15AB!RANDY@TRENGA.tredydev.unisys.com
Date: 31 AUG 92 05:40
Subject: There Can't Be Compromise With Evil [Op-Ed Piece]

          (This is reprinted from the L.A.Times' Op-Ed page of 8/24/92:)



                        THERE CAN'T BE COMPROMISE WITH EVIL

                             By Menachem Z. Rosensaft

                  Pat Buchanan's influence at the GOP convention
                       is reason enough to vote for Clinton.

          On April 13, 1983, then-Vice President George Bush, speaking
          on the steps of the Capitol in Washington, told a gathering of
          thousands of survivors of the Nazi death camps that "the Holo-
          caust serves as a universal warning....  The Holocaust is no
          metaphor; it is truth."  Unfortunately, he does not seem to
          understand the significance of that truth.

          I am the son of two survivors of Auschwitz.  My grandparents,
          my 5 1/2-year-old brother and most of the members of my family
          were murdered during the Holocaust.  I was born in 1948 in the
          displaced persons camp of Bergen-Belsen, the site of the Nazi
          concentration camp of the same name.  My cradle stood only a
          few hundred yards from the mass graves in which Anne Frank
          and tens of thousands of European Jews lie buried anonymously.

          Last Monday, as Patrick J. Buchanan addressed the Republican
          National Convention, I remembered something else Bush had
          said on that spring day: "From the whispers of those lost in
          the Holocaust," he warned, "the world must not repeat the
          hate; we must remember instead to teach respect and dignity
          for every man, regardless of race, color or creed."

          For me, unlike George Bush, the Holocaust is not a historical
          phenomenon to be used in a speech and then forgotten.  As the
          son of Holocaust survivors, I know indifference to evil con-
          stitutes the greatest danger to a civilized society.  People
          who condone bigotry are guilty of it themselves.

          By allowing Buchanan to set the tone for the Republican con-
          vention and to playa role in his reelection campaign, Bush
          has given the lie to the lofty sentiments that he expressed in
          his 1983 speech to the survivors.  With Bush's consent, Buch-
          anan used the prime-time platform to spew forth his ideology
          of divisiveness and to engage in the crudest possible gay-
          bashing and anti-feminist rhetoric.

          Buchanan's message was clear: Hatred is now an acceptable
          sentiment in the Republican party, and promoting bigotry has
          become a legitimate political tool.  Whatever else he may
          teach, it is not "respect and dignity for every man."

          George Bush and the other leaders of the Republican Party do
          not appear concerned by the fact that Buchanan tried to foment
          popular anti-Semitism during the months before the Gulf War
          by accusing American Jews of "beating the drum" for a war in
          which American "kids with names like McAllister, Murphy, Gon-
          zalez and Leroy Brown" would die.  It also does not seem to
          matter to them that he has championed the cause of a succes-
          sion of Nazi war criminals; that he has argued that it would
          have been impossible for Jews to perish in the gas chambers
          of the Treblinka death camp; that he once called Adolf Hitler
          "an individual of great courage, a soldier's soldier...a
          political organizer of the first rank," and that he has
          referred to a "so-called Holocaust Survivor Syndrome," which
          he described as involving "group fantasies of martyrdom and
          heroics."

          Eight months ago, I called on the President to repudiate Buch-
          anan.  Instead, he and the Republican Party have now embraced
          and legitimized Buchanan and his views.

          Presumably, Bush approves of Buchanan's rhetoric and it will
          help him hold onto the White House.  He has certainly done
          nothing to dissociate himself from Buchanan's poison-monger-
          ing.  On the contrary, the entire country and, indeed, the
          world watching the convention, could see Bush's surrogates in
          the Houston Astrodome, including Barbara Bush and Vice Pres-
          ident Dan Quayle, applauding enthusiastically during Buchan-
          an's speech.

          Sixty years ago, German's conservative politicians made a pact
          with the devil.  They agreed to go to bed with Hitler and the
          Nazi party, thinking that this would enable them to remain in
          power.  They were convinced that they could control Hitler and
          that the Nazis were merely a fringe element of the German body
          politic that posed no real threat.  In short order, however,
          it was the storm troopers and their leaders--the "Hitler Brig-
          ade," as it were--who took over.

          George Bush must now bear the consequences of having welcomed
          Buchanan's support.  There can be no compromise with evil,
          with prejudice, with anti-Semitism, with homophobia, with
          anti-feminism.  Buchanan personifies all of these darker sides
          of the human persona.  He represents the very antithesis of
          decency and tolerance.  His ideological influence in the Re-
          publican Party, and his prominent place at the convention,
          should antagonize and alienate every American who rejects
          bigotry.                                                      00000000

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Reality is an obstacle to hallucination.

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Date: 30 Aug 1992 22:38:43 -0500 (EST)
From: HARKINS%BUTLERU.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Subject: OLTL request

Can anyone provide me with a videotape of the episodes of Friday the 28th
and Monday the 30th? I watched, was excited, and would like to own a copy.
I can defray postage, cost of tape, etc...

Thanks...
James Harkins -- HARKINS@BUTLERU.BITNET

"Don't forget to decorate your house with disposable diapers..." (Ren Hoek)

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