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From: clarke@mahakala.wpd.sgi.com (David Clarke)
Subject: changing conditions with fmbatch
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Computer Systems Group
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 20:52:36 GMT

I want to save off a versions of documents with different conditions
turned on/off than in the original source.  Since I am going to have
to do this multiple times, I would like to write a script that would
allow me to do this through fmbatch rather than having to open 
each doc, change the conditions various ways and do a Save As for 
each.  Does fmbatch support this?  If so, what is/are the command(s)?

-----------------
David Clarke
Publications Production
clarke@wpd.sgi.com
(415)390-5137

Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: haluk@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com (Haluk Gumrukcu)
Subject: Re: Landscape and portrait pages in the same document	
Originator: haluk@turlough.dev.cdx.mot.com
Keywords: Flow, autonumbering	
Organization: Motorola Codex, Canton, MA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:24:23 GMT


In article <BzG8uw.H7r@wm.estec.esa.nl>, kjeld@wm.estec.esa.nl (Kjeld Hjortnaes) writes:
|> 
|> Can somebody help me on this one.		
|> 
|> I have a document  made up of a number of portrait pages and in between  a few  landscape pages containing mainly figures. I should mention that there is also figures on some of the portrait pages.
|> 
|> My problem is the following:	
|> I would like to use the auto numbering of my figures. 	
|> This seems only possible when all pages are connected into one flow. However, this then creates the problem that any update of the document will shift my landscape pages onto a portrait page.  If I disconnect my landscape pages or try to give them another|>  flow then the auto numbering doesn't seem to work.
|> 
|> I use auto numbering with the serie label    "F: Fig. <+n>
|> 
|> Can it be thrue that serie label is relative to the flow and not the document?
|> 
|> Is there any way to  bind the content of a landscape page to a landscape format?
|> 
|> kjeld


Assuming you have seperate text frames for the figure title, all you have to do
is to connect those frames together. Starting from the first one (order is
important) connect 1st and 2nd, then 2nd and 3rd and so on.

Should work.

haluk
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From: stabl@antigone.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Robert Stabl)
Subject: Re: Bibliographies and Latex
Organization: Institut fur Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 21:25:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.042637.15763@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>  
wk5w@brain.med.virginia.edu (William Katz) writes:
> Anyway, does anyone have the address for Craig Marcus so I can see
> if there is an updated fmbib available?

I cannot remember Craig's address for the moment. But he sent a copy of the  
new version of fmbib to our ftp server ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de  
(/pub/etc) a few weeks ago.

Regards
 Robert Stabl.
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: haluk@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com (Haluk Gumrukcu)
Subject: Re: a question
Originator: haluk@turlough.dev.cdx.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Codex, Canton, MA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:06:33 GMT



First of all, connecting two text frames (using Page-ColumnConnections-Connect
TwoColumns) should work. And yes, when you do that, first selection will be
deselected automatically. But FM will remember that, so it WILL connect two 
columns. Here, the order of selection is important.So, if you want backward
flow, simply select the latter column first and then the previous column.
(so it says in the document). I didn't verify this, but you may try if you
didn't get any other suggestions.

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From: engp1261@nuscc.nus.sg (Teng-Kiat Lee)
Subject: Integration sign disappeared
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:03:40 GMT

Hello, has any user of Framemaker for Windows3.1 experienced the
phenomenon of disappearing integration sign? I am using ATM2.0
together with Windows3.1, and recently the integration signs in
all my documents turned into 'approximation signs' (equal signs
with a little tilde at the top). I am sure I haven't changed any
thing in the pc except adding some shareware stuff. Can anyone
give me a hint on this? I hope I don't have to reinstall the 
software.

Regards,
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Teng-Kiat Lee                        VLSI CAD & Design Lab
Internet: engp1261@nuscc.nus.sg      Microelectronics Div.
Bitnet:   eleleetk@nusvm.bitnet      Dept. of Electrical Engineering
                                     National University of Singapore
Voice:    (065)-772-6319             10 Kent Ridge Crescent
          (065)-467-1518             Singapore 0511
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From: chipc@borland.com (Chip Clofine)
Subject: autonumbering question
Originator: chipc@genghis.borland.com
Organization: Borland International, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:01:20 GMT


hey...

I'm setting up a template for technical manuals and have the need to 
auto-number tables, figures and examples. The format I must use is 
ChapterNumber-TableNumber, etc. so that captions will number and print 
like:

Table 13-4  A sample table.

where 13 is the current chapter number,
and 4 is the table number for the forth table in the chapter.


I've set up paragraph tags with autonumbering building blocks as follows:

STYLENAME           AUTONUMBERING FORMAT     DESCRIPTION
TableCaptionStart   A:Table <n+>-<n=1>       This tag, used only in the 
                                             1st occurrence of a table per 
                                             chapter will increment the 
                                             first counter, and reset the 
                                             second counter to 1.

TableCaption        A:Table <n>-<n+>         This tag, use for each 
                                             subsequent table in the 
                                             chapter will print the first 
                                             counter (Chapter # counter) 
                                             without incrementing it and 
                                             print the second counter 
                                             (Table # counter) incrementing
                                             it by one with each occurrence.

This strategy seems to work fine except for when I have a chapter 
that does not have a table in it. For the tableless chapter, the 
first counter isn't incremented thus the first counter for tables 
in subsequent chapters will not be correctly incremented to match 
the real chapter number (which is produced with an autonumbering 
series of its own). As I cannot use two series within one autonumbering 
format, I'm at a loss as to how to accomplish this task.

Can I define a variable in each chapter that will act as a counter, 
automatically increment itself based on the position of the chapter 
in my bookfile, and then cross refernce that variable from within an 
autonumbering format?

The key to this whole autonumbering scheme is to make sure that the 
counters are not dependent upon a fixed location in the bookfile; 
when the position of the chapters in the book is reorganized and the 
bookfile is updated, the counters have to automatically reflect the 
current relative location (chapter number) of the chapter in the book.

How do I accomplish this?


chip clofine
publications services 
borland international 
chipc@borland.com
From: engp1261@nuscc.nus.sg (Teng-Kiat Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: License puzzle
Date: 9 Dec 92 05:48:05 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Hello netters, I have always been just a Framemaker user but
recently I was forced to do some administrative work on this
software.

The cluster of a few machines here shares ONE license to run
imaker (international version). I looked at the frameusers
file and indeed we are granted only that. However, the other
products like maker, write and viewer were not executable
even when I changed the MAXusers for IMAKER to 0 and change
of the other three products to 1. I was also unable to run
fmbatch (which is required by fmmerge). So the question is:
What is the licensing policy like? Can a user site move its
license from one product to the other? (I have all the binaries)

I have no idea where this copy of Framemaker came from. According
to some 'older' folks here, it came 'bundled' with our sparcs.
Is there a way for us to update or upgrade our license directly
from FrameTechnology?

Please advice. Thanks.

Kiat
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Teng-Kiat Lee                        VLSI CAD & Design Lab
Internet: engp1261@nuscc.nus.sg      Microelectronics Div.
Bitnet:   eleleetk@nusvm.bitnet      Dept. of Electrical Engineering
                                     National University of Singapore
Voice:    (065)-772-6319             10 Kent Ridge Crescent
          (065)-467-1518             Singapore 0511
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From: harding@sun444.nas.nasa.gov (Steve Harding)
Subject: Re: Cut and Paste Query
Organization: NASA/Ames Research Center
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 22:53:20 GMT

In article <kf=oNT2SMUE4MTAmpD@transarc.com> Bill_Chiles@transarc.com writes:
>I use FrameMaker on a Mac IIsi, and I've noticed multiple times cut/copy and
>paste operation failures.  Just last night I marked a big region of text,
>cut it with splat-x, moved to another location, and tried to paste it with
>splat-v.  I got the error that there is nothing in the cut/copy buffer, and
>I totally lost my text.

This is a known bug in MacMaker 3.0.  When you first fire up your Mac, then
start Maker, the first copy or cut operation does not place anything on
the clipboard.

I try to get in the habit of doing a copy and paste after opening a
document, to clear this.

This is fixed in 3.0.1.  This upgrade is available free to recent
purchasers or for $15 for those of us who have had it awhile.  I forget the
cutoff date.  Call Frame.

steve
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame,comments@frame.com
From: nzr20@meadow.uucp (Nicholas Russon)
Subject: SUMMARY: Deleting User Variables
Followup-To: comp.text.frame
Keywords: variables sed fmbatch
Reply-To: nzr20@meadow.UUCP (Nicholas Russon)
Organization: Amdahl Canada Ltd., Software Development Centre
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 16:12:39 GMT


A few weeks ago, I posted the following question:

NR> In short: has anyone found a method for deleting obsolete User
NR> Variables from several files without excessive manual intervention?
NR> 
NR> In not-so-short: We are in the process of converting a library of
NR> about 50 books from MVS SCRIPT to FrameMaker under SCO Open Desktop.
NR> At the same time, our library is being re-organized to reflect the
NR> next release of the software. All of the existing books are
NR> in the User Variables to allow easy cross-referencing at the book
NR> level.
NR> 
NR> Each book has one or more chapters/sections that are also cross-referenced
NR> through the User Variables, so that we have a couple of hundred
NR> actual and potential Variable definitions.
NR> 
NR> With the re-organization, many of the existing variables are now
NR> obsolete, and we were trying to find a way of eliminating only the
NR> unnecessary ones. Frame allows us to apply new and changed variables
NR> through the Use Formats menu option, but this does not remove the old
NR> variables.

I received several responses, all basically giving me the same
advice:

	1) Save file in MIF format.

	2) Edit the MIF file directly (using sed or similar tool)
	   to remove the entire Variable definition block, for example:

 			<VariableFormat
  			 <VariableName `VolumeName'>
  			 <VariableDef `Installation Guide'>
 			> # end of VariableFormat

	3) Replace the occurrences in the text with some easily seen
	   visual clue (perhaps similar to: ***HEY_NEW_VARIABLE_NEEDED***):

   			<Variable
    			 <VariableName `VolumeName'>
   			> # end of Variable

	   I suggest using a string for this that can be double-clicked
	   for easy selection.

	4) Re-save as a maker-format file.

All of this can be wrapped up in a shell script that calls fmbatch
and sed to do the dirty work.

It's more cumbersome than I'd hoped, but it is do-able.

I'd like to thank:

Mark Ferris     mferris@ems.cdc.com
Dave Johnson    cjohnson@apsc.com
Michael J Hardy mhardy@acorn.co.uk

If anyone posted a response and I didn't reply by email, I'm afraid 
your posting probably expired at this site before I could read it (we
are very short on disk space for our news feed).
	   
Regards,
Nicholas

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From: tim@ephor.tusc.oz.au (Tim Shaw)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Eroff (mainly MM Macros) documents to Frame documents ???
Date: 16 Dec 1992 15:03:00 +1100
Organization: TUSC Computer Systems Pty Ltd.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ephor.tusc.oz.au
Summary: Want to convert Eroff files to Frame files with minimum hassle
Keywords: converting MM Macros Eroff

I am looking for a method/utility for converting Elan Eroff (Version 2.2)
Documents to Frame (Version 3.1X) Documents which will require minimum manual
operation.  Please help!

tim@tusc.oz.au

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From: ask@sei.cmu.edu (Alan Koch)
Newsgroups: cmu.sei,comp.text.frame,cmu.comp.text.frame
Subject: CANCELLED: FUN in Pittsburgh, Dec 17th
Keywords: FUN Frame Users Network Pittsburgh
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:14:35 GMT
Distribution: pa
Organization: Software Engineering Institute


	Due to the under-whelming number of responses,
	I have unilaterally decided to cancel December's 
	FUN in Pittsburgh.

If you were planning to show up on December 17th, be advised that you can put
the evening to better use (like learning about your favorite FrameMaker
feature so you can present about it in February or April!)

So Sorry!

ask@sei.cmu.edu

Alan S. Koch
Software Engineering Institute
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA  15213
From: Phil Buxton  <PhilB@BNR.ca>
Subject: Re: Moving things around...
Organization: Bell Northern Research
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:09:11 GMT


In article  Eric Tholome, tholome@esf.de writes:

>This was experienced with FrameMaker 2.1 on Sun.
>
>I've discovered something pretty convenient (and possibly funny) in
FrameMaker:
>if you select several characters, hold Control down and use the arrow
keys, you
>will be able to move the selection in all four directions.
>
>I'm sure this can be helpful in drawings, etc. I guess it can mess
things up as
>well if used stupidly...
>
>You can also use it to play tricks on your friends... If you write
"fcatory"
>and artificially swap the a and the c, it will look like "factory", but
the
>spelling checker will still complain about it. The cursor will also make
>some weird moves when passing over it (with the left or right arrow).
>
>Is this well known, used and documented? I don't think so...

This is I believe a feature of Frame to allow users to put marks above
letters
when writing mathematically or using some of the European "letters". 
Since
there is no "fine" control of this movement, there have been complaints
in the
not too distant past from other Net/Frame users.

Do the same on a MAC using option shift, which is also the way to move
graphical objects coarsely around.  Option shift moves characters about 
3 points horizontally or vertically, at each jump at 1000%

Option arrow alone is finer control for both types of objects. It moves
characters about 0.5 pts horizontally or vertically at each jump at 1000%

I think the character moves are independent of zoom, but this is not the
case 
with objects.
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: kranz@fzi.de (Michael Kranz)
Subject: Re: Chapter Headings
Followup-To: comp.text.frame
Keywords: Chapters
Reply-To: kranz@fzi.de
Organization: Forschungszentrum Informatik (FZI), Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:00:42 GMT

In article <BzGDrt.Hoy@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk>, kr1@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk (Kevin Richards [METOFF]) writes:
|> Hi,
|> 	I want to know how to create a heading with auto numbering but put the text on the following line. i.e.
|> 	Chapter 1
|> 	     Some title.
|> 
|> The text should still belong to the chapter heading. Any quick and easy solutions.
|> 	Thanks in advance
|> 		Kev
|> 

The following steps should solve your problem:

1. Define a paragraph format "chapnum" with autonum "C:Chapter <+n>"
   and any font, style or align you want.

2. Define a character format "invisible", in which the default-font
   is displayed white on white, i.e. invisible.

3. Define a paragraph format "chapter" with any font, style and
   align you want. Then define autonum "C:<n>" and assign the
   new character format "invisible" as the autonum format.

In your document, you should start a chapter with a line formatted
in paraformat "chapnum". In the next line type your chapter title
and assign paraformat "chapter" to it. The table of contents must
be generated with "chapter", not with "chapnum".

Sometimes the invisible chapter number will be visible on the screen,
e.g. when you change your title. Type CTRL-L and the page will be
redisplayed correctly.

Michael

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From: pla_jfr@sld64pki-nbg.philips.de (joachim friedrichs)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Problem updating chapter numbers in multifile book
Date: 18 Dec 92 13:36:30 GMT
Reply-To: pla_jfr@pki-nbg.philips.de
Organization: Philips Kommunikations Industrie AG Nuernberg, Germany


In article <1992Dec15.180057.732@alf.uib.no>, eystein@smyril.fi.uib.no (Eystein Dugstad) writes:
|> FrameMaker won't let me update the chapter numbers in my miltifile book  
|> anymore. When I click "File - Generate/Update" and afterwards open for  
|> example the fourth file in the book, the first chapter in that book is  
|> called chapter 1 even though there are 3 or more chapters before it.

Look in the book setup, the paragraph numbering has the two options 
continue or restart. For your purpose "continue" is correct. After
setup change you have to generate/update the book.
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: ray@mtl.mit.edu (Ray Ghanbari)
Subject: Automatic resizing of graphics?
Reply-To: ray@mtl.mit.edu
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:24:44 GMT



Hi,

I currently import EPS figures and equations by reference into Frame 3.0  
on the NeXT, and set them up in anchored frames.  This works well but  
there is an annoying side effect.

If I later modify the graphic so that its bounding box changes, Frame  
distorts the graphic to make it fit in its old bounding box.  As a result,  
I have to re-import my graphics whenever I change them, which sort of  
defeats the purpose of importing by reference.

Anybody have a workaround, or know of a hidden switch on some obscure  
window that defeats this behavior?

  Thanks

  Ray Ghanbari                   |                                 
  (617) 253-0723                 | "Talkin' bout a revolution..."  
  ray@mtl.mit.edu (NeXTmail OK)  |                                 
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: foudil@npac.syr.edu (Kamal Foudil-Bey)
Subject: figure numbering 
Organization: Northeast Parallel Architectures Center at Syracuse University (NPAC)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 11:01:30 EST

I am having a hard time trying to figure out a way of attaching
a figure number and its associated reference from within the text.
let me explain: Assume I have a figure that has number 20. Somewhere
in the text I have a sentence that says "refer to figure 20". Now
if I add a figure before figure 20, then my original figure 20
becomes figure 21. How can I make my original statement "refer to
figure 20" be updated automatically to "refer to figure 21"?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
ps: I am using frame 2.1x on a sparc station.


Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: sasjmg@dickens.unx.sas.com (Jodie Gilmore)
Subject: omitting special characters in running heads
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:35:50 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


This is sort of an urgent question, as my book is in production. Please
email responses, and I'll summarize to the group.

I have chapter titles which contain registered trademark symbols. The
R symbol is in the Symbol font, the rest of the title is in Helvetica
bold.  I have defined running heads to use the chapter title. But when I
print them out, the R from the title appears as a double-quote in the
running head (probably because the running head is defined in an italic
Helvetica font, not Symbol)--I do not want the R to show up in the
running head AT ALL. I could live with it showing up as an R. I can't
live with the double-qoute!

Any suggestions?

Thanks so much,

Jodie Gilmore
sasjmg@unx.sas.com

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