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From: kinnema@wkuvx1.bitnet (Mark Kinney, Attorney at Chaos)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: New Albums
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:43:15 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1992Oct11.052134.10426@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
> Funny, 'cause I've never considered gangsta rap to paint a picture of ghetto
> life.  And, I have no idea how it can paint any type of picture to understand
> ghetto life.  It's like saying people in the ghetto are constantly just killing
> each other and screwing women.  It goes on, but there is so much more that goes
> on too.  If the stuff that gangsta rappers talk about goes on in the ghettos of
> Amerikkka, then all gangsta rap is telling you is what's going on.  

This has been admitted to, actually.  I remember several years ago
seeing N.W.A on MTV, and Ice Cube described the group as "reporters."

> It's not
> telling you *why* it's going on, which is what one needs to know in order to
> understand the ghetto.  Gangsta rap is a very narrow, sometimes highly
> fantasized, view of the ghettos.

Actually, Cube's new stuff (i.e. Death Certificate) goes into this
some, as does Ice-T and most other halfway decent groups.  Note
N.W.A's emphasis on the killing and screwing, to the exclusion of all
else, in comparison with "Death Certificate" or "O.G."
-- 
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From: v065nlpz@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amil)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Vanilla's Got A Boyfriend
Date: 10 Oct 92 19:18:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <redmondd.718729906@unix1.tcd.ie>, redmondd@unix1.tcd.ie (Judge Raz) writes...
>In <1992Oct9.024719.13364@ultb.isc.rit.edu> ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
> 
>>Anyone catch Entertainment Tonight?  Well, our favorite rapper, Vanilla
>>Ice, is in a holding center up in Portland, Oregon for forgery and the use
>>of others people's credit cards.  My, how the mighty have fallen.
>                                               ^^^^^^
>What's this mighty business?
> 
>Judge Raz

	WORD...Vanilla was NEVER mighty!!!  How can you think that, G?

						aMIL
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:50:46 EDT
From: <SCW112@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Rap sucks balls

>anything that can be played without a band is horseshit

Now this is just a stupid statement.  Why?  Because this guy probably has
never listened all the way through a rap song.  If he had sampled some
different types of rap and then made an educated choice that he didn't like
rap then fine.  But to generalize without knowledge is stupid as well as the
definition of prejudice, i.e. to "pre-judge".  It's redneck sentiments and
remarks like this that give all Asians a bad name.                             e

Peace.

Steve Wei
From: rojohnso@libws1.ic.sunysb.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: House Of Pain sample
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:31:15 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Originator: rojohnso@libws1.ic.sunysb.edu

Hey...
              The other day, you guys were talking about the house of pain.
I havent heard anyone else say this, but is it just me, or does that looped   
scream sample they use sound just like how Prince's Gett Off starts?? I am
almost sure that its the same scream!  Anyone? Anyone?

                                                Peace,
                                                  RJ
From: fedde@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Fedde Engler)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Understanding Hip Hop
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:25:52 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
NNTP-Posting-Host: minsk.docs.uu.se

Madison J. Gray <34LI4E6@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:

>But in order to understand the black experience, you hav to have lived 
>the black experience, and in most cases that means being black.

Man...are you saying whites cannot understand this music to the full length
of it? What a load of crap, if that is what you mean! I have been listening
to this type of music from its VERY, VERY start, and I love it so much, that
when a dope beat comes on, it even seems to affect me physically sending wierd
feelings over my body. I call that an experience of this music and I don't
have to be black to feel it. 

As long as people go on with that crap of saying "you don't understand this
because you ain't black" we are going to keep on having racism. This music
should join people together, specially to forget our differences...anyone
can feel the message of hiphop, and no color will ever stop ya...

--
Fedde (fedde@bern.docs.uu.se)
From: sknezevi@phakt.usc.edu (Steven John Knezevich)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: The horseshit post......
Date: 7 Oct 1992 13:46:05 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu

Anyone think that we should contact Allegany college's system administrator
and tell them about that asshole's post.  It seemed derogatory and very out 
of line.  I think his actions may warrant some kind of discipline.

Anyway, his email address is:
leej@pell1l11.alleg.edu
and I think that Allegany College shoudl be contacted.  I would do it myself 
but I think I need some backup.  There's no excuse for such idiocy.  All that
agree say "Ay."  Peace.
Steve KNezeivch
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: REDMAN on "In Living Color"
Reply-To: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:49:18 GMT

In article <BvpED5.B9t@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v523d85n@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Robert C   ) writes:
>
>what up, i just saw them on the 5th in buffalo, they were with gangstarr(who
>SLAMMED), and the rest of the hit squad.  redman and k-solo both said that they

HAHA!  When the concert was here in Rochester, Gang Starr was a no-show; and
basically the only group I wanted to really see.  And, overall the census vote
up here was the concert was wack!  Glad I didn't go.....

                                                T-Dub
                                                SHYGUY productions
From: juonsteve@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Whut?  Review update
Date: 17 Oct 92 00:02:21 GMT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

After pumping the tape in my car for a week and a hald, I know give Redman nine
out of 10.  The only song I really don't like is 'I'm a Bad'.  My current fave
is 'A Day in the Life of Sooperman Lover'.

'A picture of Malcolm is not on my wall
 He's in my heart, that's smart"  Chubb Rock - Black Trek IV the Voyage Home

PEace!
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: c162-du@po.berkeley.edu (bishwaroop ganguly)
Subject: Re: Music
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:08:05 GMT


     Fuck that. Anyone can make a hit using D-Nice's bassline from "They Call
Me D-Nice". They even used "Buck Whylin'" which is an original 
T-X track. You know, I always pictured X-Clan as doing their production the
night before their album came out. 

                                                     -Roop
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 7 Oct 1992 11:32:59 CDT
From: Tyrone Ellison <U14864@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Rap sucks balls

Jason Lee writes:
>Anything that can't be played with a band is horseshit!

Well, Mr. Lee, my response is that anyone who speaks without thinking is a
moron, lacking the good sense God gave cabbage.

5,000+  The Minister of Rage, Gifted Underworld Executioner

PS:  I'm sure that there's an alt.ignorant-buffoon net just waiting to hear
     words of wisdom.
From: v065nlpz@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amil)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Why is rap music in commercials always lame?
Date: 10 Oct 92 19:25:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Bvx60K.InF@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, pa56680@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (P. Ialamanna) writes...
>>In article <1992Oct10.003018.17290@news.media.mit.edu>, ereidell@media.mit.edu (Evan A. Reidell) writes:
>>> Whenever you hear rap in a commercial, usually aimed at little kids and
>>> in some cheezy public service announcement, the rhythm is always dead
>>> and lacking in attitude, the rapper sucks, the rhymes are contrived.
>>> I suppose I should be happy about this, keeping quality rap out of
>>> commercials, but why do you suppose this is true?  Does being an ad
>>> executive automatically prevent you from producing a rap with good
>>> flavor?
>>> - evan
> 
>How ignorant are you? As you admit these ads are aimed at LITTLE KIDS. The majority of these kids will not be as captivated by a hard core rapper(with whom
>they have little in common) when compared to something nice, easy, and 
>understandable. 
>And no, being an ad executive means knowing how to market a product 
>for a target audience.


	Thats absolutley correct.  Theres no need to get hardcore rappers
to do kids ads.  

	Look at the rap in ads for St.Ides and RedBull, for example.  DOOPE!
For example, the EricB and Rakim one (ST.IDES) and all the Ice Cube ones,
ESPECIALLY the new one which peeps a song off Cube's new album talking about
St.Ides.  (Have you heard it yet?  The production is identical to the Bomb
Squad.)  And what about KoolGRap and Polo for RedBull.  Their ad was played
all summer...Doope!  At that is just to name a FEW.

	So I think it all has to do with the audience, G.

	
							aMIL
From: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: New Albums
Date: 11 Oct 92 05:21:34 GMT
Reply-To: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

In article <Bvu11o.6E3@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v065m89r@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Keith P McCartney) writes:
>...ghetto. I have never had to live the way a person in the ghetto
>has had to. I don't know what it is like and the gangsta style
>of rap gives me kind of an understanding of what it is like ( I
>know nothing is as real as first hand experience though ). 
>People are always talking about how bad it is in the ghetto.
>For example in Ghetto Bastard by Naughty by Nature, he says
>something like "If you aint never been to the ghetto, then don't
>ever come to the ghetto, 'cause you wouldn't understand the ghetto
> So stay the fuck out.." I believe that I wouldn't understand it
>so gangsta rap helps me get a feel for it. I in no way found your
>				Peace out Ronin' Wolf...
>					Pooky
>		AND I'M AUDI LIKE RACISM SHOULD BE!!!

Funny, 'cause I've never considered gangsta rap to paint a picture of ghetto
life.  And, I have no idea how it can paint any type of picture to understand
ghetto life.  It's like saying people in the ghetto are constantly just killing
each other and screwing women.  It goes on, but there is so much more that goes
on too.  If the stuff that gangsta rappers talk about goes on in the ghettos of
Amerikkka, then all gangsta rap is telling you is what's going on.  It's not
telling you *why* it's going on, which is what one needs to know in order to
understand the ghetto.  Gangsta rap is a very narrow, sometimes highly
fantasized, view of the ghettos.

                                             T-Dub
                                             SHYGUY productions
From: sknezevi@aludra.usc.edu (Steven John Knezevich)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Beastie Boys 'Check Your Head' Lyrics
Date: 10 Oct 1992 14:51:09 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Just write to Grand Royal...the address is in the CD and they will send you
all the lyrics for Check Your Head.  Also, they will send lyrics for the
song year and day on Paul's Boutique.

Peace
Steve K
From: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Name that beat!
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:15:25 GMT
Reply-To: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

In article <1992Oct10.071953.29622@umbc3.umbc.edu>, cs201127@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs201127) writes:
>     I was listening to a local radio station here in Baltimore earlier today
>and I heard a beat that I want some information on.  I don't know the name of
>the song but it's on the movie soundtrack for "Deep Cover" and it's done by MC
>Ren and a brother named Snoopy something or other.  Well, the beat is DOPE and
 ^^^

No, it was Dr. Dre and Snoopy something or other, and the beat is pretty dope.

>I want to know what else it's used in and possibly the source if it's not
>original.

I don't know, but now that you mention it, it does sound like something that 
has been used somewhere else with maybe some slight changes to it, at least the
bassline anyway.

K-Mello
SHYGUY Productions
From: tim@crash.canon.co.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Hip Hop Questions....
Date: 16 Oct 92 08:29:06 GMT
Organization: me myself and i

atb@whomp.engin.umich.edu (Adrian Bradley) writes of classic Miami Bass:
:
|Magic Mike - "Feel The Bass"

What about "MM cuts the record" or "House of magic"?

|MC Chazzy Chess - "Boot the Booty"

I definitely woulda chosen "Creep Dog" or "Let the music play"

|2 Live Crew - "Mr Mixx on the Mix" (well, at least *I* like it... d:-) )

Nah! It has to be "Throw the D"

And, conspicuous by his absence, Clay D. Spoilt for choice... "Shake
your booty" maybe?

Tx. [IMHO big time]
-- 
Tim F O'Donoghue <tim@crash.canon.co.uk> <uunet!canon!tim>
From: kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:41:28 GMT
Subject: Re: Please Help
Organization: HP Western Response Center
Newsgroups: alt.rap

Oops! My apologies for posting my previous "Please Help" survey to this
group. It was an honest mistake and won't happen again.

Kingsley
From: superfly@etek.chalmers.se (Palle Zetterstrand)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: bolo
Date: 14 Oct 92 11:48:06 GMT
Reply-To: superfly@etek.chalmers.se (Palle Zetterstrand)
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg, SWEDEN

In article <Bw2zE0.JCA@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v065nlpz@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amil) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct12.235945.21539@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Virginia.A.Reed@dartmouth.edu (Virginia A. Reed) writes...
|> >I'm big on bolo...
|> >Diffinitely supporting it .
|> >Send it to alt.config for response
|> >                                                 -LX                   
|> >                  
|> 
|> 
|> 	Could someone please clarify what BOLO is?
|> 
|> 							cLUELESS  
 
 As Chuck D said:
 I swing bolos
 When they clear the lane I go solo

 I don't know what they're referring to. It could be:

 1) A weapon consisting of two balls connected with a wire. Throw at
 the thing you want to catch and the bolo (hopefully) will entangle the legs
 of your catch forcing it to an abrupt stop.

 2) English comic book hero. He gets involved in very bloody battles.
-- 
********************The revolution will not be computerized*******************
name:Palle Zetterstrand			      e-mail:superfly@etek.chalmers.se
no future without a past"..."There is no future without a past"..."There is no
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: v081jwnc@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (MC Flexible Flyer)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: ATCQ Hot Sex
Date: 14 Oct 92 12:52:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I saw the video again, and I still don't know what the mask and shiny 
jackets are for.  But I definitly agree that it is not Tip in the mask
, because when they show the few closeups of him rapping, the people 
on "Lip Service" look better.  

This is quite lame, couldn't Tip spare one day to shoot the video, I 
mean from the song it seems like he spent two to make the song (maybe 
less) and that video was not a Hammer-like production.  

And to the woman who posted earlier about instruments neccessary for 
good music, here is a dollar, buy a clue.


I am out like the humpty dance,


William E. Neuburger, Super Genius
(Obvious Rip-Off of Wile E. Coyote, Super Genius)

"From the very first note he's miserably out of tune."  

Benny Carter speaking on jazz great and innovator, Orntte Coleman.  
For the ignorant, Coleman pretty much invented Free Jazz which later 
was played by the late, great John Coltrane.  (Note: Benny Carter 
himself was a great jazz musician)
From: agoyo1@gbroagfran.MIT.EDU (Acee Agoyo)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Music
Date: 8 Oct 92 02:18:33 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Charles L Isbell writes (about X-Clan):
>Bad timing.  Their last album was finished long before it was
>released, In the interim, other rappers came out with similar samples.
It is true that the album was finished long before it was released, but the samples they
used had already been used way before the album was finished.  Like on "Exodus."  That
has pieces of a samples used by D-Nice on "My Name is D-Nice" (1990) and Big Daddy Kane on
"Ain't no Half Steppin'" (1987).  _X-Odus_ was definitely completed after 1990.  And on
"Fire & Earth" they lift the beat from BDP's "Dope Beat" (1986) although its not as
noticeable as their other songs.  X-Clan is known for using samples that have already
been used by other artists.  So it's not simply an issue of bad timing, its of bad sampling.

>Besides, if it sounds good and is mixed in an original way, who cares?
I liked "Fire & Earth."  I haven't heard much else of the album but I don't think
Profesor X can rhyme.  He sounds like a rhinocerous with a stuffed up nose.  But Brother
J can rhyme, don't get me wrong.


"I'm the calm one but my crew is sorta sick"
	--- A.G. "Catchin' Wreck"

Acee Agoyo
agoyo1@athena.mit.edu
From: bumpers1460@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: vote
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:39:31 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa



























                                                                               
                                                                               
                                                                          




IN REPLY TO YOUR MESSAGE,I DON'T SEE ANY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CHRISTIANITY AND
THE TEACHINGS OF CHRIST EXCEPT THAT CHRISTIANITY IS THE TEACHINGS OF CHRIST IN
ACTION.  THE REASON THAT I LEFT THAT MESSAGE IS BECAUSE I WANTED TO SUGGEST A
MORE POSITIVE STYLE OF RAP THAN RAPPERS LIKE L.L COOL J.,ICE T., PUBLIC ENEMY
AND THE LIKE.  I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE QUALITY OF RAP,JUST THE MESSAGE. 
GROUPS LIKE SFC,KINGS CREW,IDLE KING,FREEDOM OF SOUL,D.C TALK AND THE DYNAMIC
TWINS [ JUST TO NAME A FEW ] ARE GROUPS THAT I WOULD PUT UP AGAINST ANY SECULAR
RAP GROUP,AND I'LL BET THAT THEY [ THE CHRISTIAN RAPPERS ] WOULD BE LIKED JUST
AS MUCH AS THE SECULAR RAPPERS.  IF YOU'VE NEVER HEARD THEM,GO ON DOWN TO YOUR
LOCAL CHRISTIAN BOOKSTORE AND SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY COPIES OF THE GROUPS THAT
I'VE JUST MENTIONED;IF YOU CAN'T FIND ANT THERE,DROP ME A LINE SOMETIME,AND
I'LL SEND YOU TYPES OF ALL THE GROUPS THAT I'VE LISTED ABOVE [ PROVIDED YOU
LEAVE ME AN ADDRESS ].  AS FOR THIS RAP GROUP THAT YOU MENTIONED [CAN'T
REMEMBER THE NAME OF THEM PRESENTLY ],COULD YOU SEND ME AN E-MAIL MESSAGE
TELLING ME THE NAME OF THIS GROUP AGAIN SO I CAN CHECK THEM OUT [ I'LL LISTEN
TO ANYTHING ONCE ].  CHRISTIAN RAP IS AN UP AND COMING ART FORM,AND I BELIEVE
THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE THE WORLD BY STORM!
       UNTIL LATER
       FLOYD B.  ARMOR OF GOD MINISTRIESIn article <BvEo3t.6on@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>,
dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
(David J.) writes:
> In article <92272.110530U14864@uicvm.uic.edu> Tyrone Ellison <U14864@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>>P. Ialamanna writes:
>>>Actually, I think that we'd be better off with Bush...
>>My question is HOW IN THE HELL CAN WE BE BETTER OFF WITH BUSH???
> 
>>We, in the Hip Hop Nation, can't afford 4 more years under the reign of 
>>Reagan/Bush/whoever else... We need change NOW... even if it is a vote for 
>>Clinton... After all, a LITTLE change is better than no change at all...
> 
>>One more note:  Just before the Rodney King beating was aired worldwide,
>>Bush praised DARRYL GATES on what a wonderful job he was doing as LA's Chief 
>>of Police... think about it...
> 
>>5,000... The Minista of Rage...
> 
> Nothing to answer here. I just thought this bore repeating.
> 
> Peace...
> -- 
> - David J. ---- BLUE RIDDLE PRODUCTIONS ---- dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu -
> - Coming October 20th: GRAND PUBA, "Reel to Reel", PRINCE, "O-+->",         -
> ***********************and BRP's debut 12" single, "Rap Is An Art"***********
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From: d1dol@dtek.chalmers.se (Fredrik Lundholm)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Understanding Hip Hop
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:54:52 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

34LI4E6@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU (Madison J. Gray) writes:

>My Australian brother, if I understand your message correctly, you are trying t
>o equate understanding hip-hop with understanding African-American culture. Wel
>l for starters, hip-hop culture is a street culture, not a black culture. It is
> an extension of black America, but not every black American relates to or even
> participates in hip-hop, that is a stereotype- so stop watching so much televi
>sion. Hip-hop came about in the mid-1970's starting in New York City and spread
> across the country as rap music became more popular.

<<<<Zapp>>>

Well Every Country, City, etc. in the world has It's Opressed group.
In USA the black's (or maybe colored) traditionally has beeing opressed in 
one way or the other.
I just hate pre-made-up minds on things.
When I am dressed in my ordinary cloathes and meets new peolpe they judge
me on a visual & a behaviour basis, and not by the things I say, they
just dismiss me as redicolous or something, but if I wore a Suite or 
something, I know they'd payed more attention.
This can be translated into a "black" thing, the only difference is that
a black person can't rub out his black color of the skin.
So people will continue to dismiss him as being black.
If I were black this would make me HEAVILY PISSED OFF.
 
>                                       -Joeski Love

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From: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: marky mf mark does it again
Date: 11 Oct 92 19:19:24 GMT
Reply-To: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

In article <Bvv5LI.KJx@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.) writes:
>
>I'm guessin' that you're talking to me, K, so I'll clarify:
>
>The beat is listed in De La Soul's album as a sample from Lowell Fulson's
>"Tramp," and so far, these are the songs I have heard so far that use that
>beat...
>
>Cypress Hill, "How I Could Just Kill A Man"
>De La Soul, "Let Let Me In"
>EPMD, "Rampage" (I think they were the first to sample this)
>FU-Schnickens, "Back Off."
>
>There may be others that sound similar as well, such as "Step To The Rear" by
>Brand Nubian, but I don't know if they sampled that song directly (They did
>use the same bassline).

Thanks for the clarification.  I noticed the De La use, but never really caught
the EPMD use, and I've never listened to the entire FU-Schnickens album.

K-Mello
SHYGUY Productions
From: ckukkone@jarthur.claremont.edu (CK3)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Brand Nubian
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:52:48 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711


Got the new single from Electra the other day.nothing
special.  The remaining crew plus a few more still have the
skillz but the song is kinda bland..........

think its called

Sucker Punks Jump up and Get Beat Down

CK3
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