From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: I'm very disappointed in Chinese
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:35:03 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

dht@mulga.cs.mu.oz.au (Joyous Dave) writes:

>I'm very disappointed in Chinese people.

Don't be. :)

>I want to improve China, improve its people's living standard,
>improve its productivity, improve its economy, improve its
>stand in the world.  And I asked people to contribute suggestions
>to how to improve China.

>I got handful of constructive suggestions, but tons of noise and
>flames on ideological differences, history, general complains, or
>pure noise.

Dont worry about those offensive ones then... this is bounded to happen, you
wont be able to please everyone.  However, have you really analyzed the
"complaints" people gave you?  do they belong to the same catergory?  
maybe you could expand your horizons by incorporating their ideas/ideology
with yours.

>I feel that Chinese nowadays like to feel pride that they belong
>to the oldest civilization in the world which still exists; but
>when asked to do something to contribute, they hold back.

Please explain... I don't quite understand what you mean by "hold back."  
You mean they literally don't want to see an improved China?  I really
doubt it... I think most Chinese would like to see China becoming a better
place for people to live in.

>It seems that people don't care about China anymore, and lack
>a nationalist spirit (remember the songs you used to sing? like:
>"I am Chinese", "Desendants of Dragon", "Be a Brave Chinese"??)
>people become too comfortable in Western societies, and don't care
>less about helping their root, and blood brothers!

>"Drink Water, Think Source"
I agree with you that we should "drink water, think source."  Nonetheless,
promoting nationalism isn't appropriate in the 90s.  Look at Japanese-bashing
in this country right now.  How often do you see people accusing the
Japanese for undermining the US economy?  To some people in this country, 
to improve one's economy literally means to screw the other guys'. is that
what we want from China? 

I can tell you I don't believe in hurting others in order to bring oneself
up.  Remember, this is the 90s now... we are not enclosed in our own
tiny little circle anymore... the world is unifying rapidly--in order words,
what happens in one country will quickly affect another.  We, people who
benefit from computer networks, can talk to different people from different
countries at once in splits of a second.  We should open our minds to
other people's ideology, culture and belief --because what happens to
them now no longer just happens to them... it will affect us too.

Sorry if this posting sounds like another flame... let me tell you one thing
I really want to see happening in China/Taiwan/Hong Kong/every chinese
speaking country:

	I would love to see Chinese computing being fully developed.  Right 
now, I have a feeling that we are living in a borrowed time.  The technology
which we are using are mostly "borrowed" from other countries...
including computers, auotmobiles, etc.

	True, it will be silly for us Chinese to reinvent the wheel now.  
Nonetheless, I would like to see Chinese developing chinese computing
device/hardware/software which is accessible to everyone.  Computer
which teaches us Chinese... CD-Rom which contains Chinese encyclopedia...
etc.

	I know many dedicated Chinese are doing it right now... Chinese 
programs are more accessible today than several years ago.  So, "dont
give up on Chinese."  We are slowly improving "China," we just need
some cohesive effort and time...   


>-- 
>1)-----------------------Rev 6:8 "... They were given authority over a quarter
>of the Earth, to kill by the sword, by famine, by plague, and wild beasts."

Yours Sincerely,
Kelvin

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