From: rpb@noaacrd.colorado.edu (Robert Baptist)
Subject: Re: James Hetfield injured
Organization: NOAA Climate Research Division
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 04:35:18 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.214604.3987@csccat.cs.com> larry@csccat.cs.com (Larry Spence) writes:
>In article <1992Aug11.211421.21708@colorado.edu> rpb@starr.colorado.edu (Robert Baptist) writes:
>>In article <92=C03s=57VQ00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro) writes:
>>>
>>>  On a tangent here- has anyone ever seen a rock band in the last 20 years
>>>or so create such a fuss in this country as GNR has done?  I mean these guys
>>>came on the scene and really shook up rock N roll. 
>
>More like "shook up the media and the media loved it."  I see almost no
>long-term lasting contribution to rock from Buns 'n' Hoses.  They're just
>doing the same stuff again for kids who were too young when the Stones,
>Aerosmith, etc. were around.  Aerosmith was often a second-generation Stones,

  Well Larry, if you want to compare them to the Stones, Aerosmith, (or
somebody like Zeppelin as another example) you're gonna get a lot of people
who think that's quite a compliment.

>if you still think Keith Richards half-OD'ing on smack is "cool" and
>"real rock and roll."

  Well yes, I rather think it's kind of funny to listen to Keith these days..
:-)
>
>No, it's like they are still assholes.  _You_ stand around for two hours
>waiting for a show that you paid $30 for and then tell me if it's "only
>rock 'n' roll" when the singer flips you off and leaves.
>Being offensive to a record company is conceivably a good thing.  Being
>offensive to people who paid good money to see you play rock and roll is NOT.
  
   Then you don't have to pay it, Larry.  And if they really have pissed

>
>>GnR is at least for real
>>in that their music reflects their lifestyle.
>Yep, in that their music is going nowhere fast.  Releasing two max-length
>CDs at the same time (largely filler) is another example of massive ego.

     That's YOUR opinion, Larry, which you're entitled to.  Apparently millions
of record buyers didn't agree.  I, who consider myself to be rather cynical,
think that those albums were an honest attempt to put out good music. 
I also happen to think they succeeded much of the time.  As far as I'm
concerned, nobody is going to be happy with every track on two albums which
contain around 145 minutes of music.  I would much rather spring for 1 1/2
albums of good hard rock that contains intelligent touches here and there
then to have to stoop to buy a Def Leppard or Poison album to try and rock out.
 
>didn't _learn_ anything from Spinal Tap, did you?

   Spinal Tap always tried to please their fans, tho.. :->.  Seriously, if
you want to hate every band the "Tap" lampooned, I guess you'd have to burn
your Zeppelin, Hendrix, & Who records right now.  I learned to laugh
at self-indulgent rockers, and it would be nice if you could to. 
>
>But by your logic, isn't it just the audience getting into the rock
>and roll for real, "reflecting their lifestyle"?  I would think that

    Good point Larry. To this I would say
that perhaps it would be nice if society could get their "wild
release" out by enjoying their "bad rock bands" without living the
lifestyle themselves.

>Larry Spence

   - Robert
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