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From: icsu0182@cs.montana.edu (Sean)
Subject: Re: Dallas was beaten by bad luck, not the eagles!
Organization: Montana State University, Dept. of Computer Science, Bozeman MT 59717
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:50:52 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.124143.666@totaltec.com> mark@totaltec.com writes:

>Bob, what rock did you crawl out from under? How can you say that the Cowgirls
>will eat them live after they just got beaten by 24 points?
>Seems to me that the 59 yard catch that Irvin made that led to the Cowgirls
>only touchdown was a lucky catch and seems to me that if the Cowgirls weren't
>so lucky to not have the fumble by E.Smith not called that Aikman wouldn't
>have even been able to throw that poor pass! So if it was truly all bad luck
>the score wouldve been probably 34 or 38 to 0!
>Why don't you just admit it Bob? The Cowgirls got a good old fashioned ass
>licking Monday night.

An ASS LICKING! Isn't that just a wee bit kinky on a Monday Night.  And I
don't really know if something like an ass licking can really be considered
old fashioned...Sorry, just couldn't let that one go by un noticed, whether
I am a Cowboys fan or not...It still sounded awkward, however regional of
an expression that it may be...

Sean

>
>Mark 
>GO EAGLES!


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     Sean Reid                  ||   "F...You're a gimp." 
     Dept. of Computer Science  ||                 - Wayne Campbell 
     Montana State University   ||  **** GO COWBOYS!!!!!!! ****           
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From: pc0837@sarah.albany.edu (COHEN PAUL L)
Subject: Re: JETS vs INDIANAPOLIS
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 14:23:42 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.125109.14988@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> edg@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (edwin.g.green) writes:
>In article <1992Oct9.123853.5287@sarah.albany.edu> pc0837@sarah.albany.edu (COHEN PAUL L) writes:
>>Being a true Jets fan, my hopes for their utter destruction of the Colts
>>may be blinded. I do feel that the Jets have a satrong enough, not great, 
>>offense to score more than 20 pts against the young Colts defense.
>>However, I am worried about Indi's no-huddle offense implanted by Marchibella.
>>I am interested in your comments on the Indi offense vs. the Jets defense.
>
>In my opinion, the no-huddle offense caused more problems for Indy than
>for the Jets.  The Jets' offense was lackluster.  The game was not nearly
>as close as the score.
>
>-- 
>Edwin G. Green
>AT&T Bell Laboratories          Indianapolis, Indiana, USA
>INH 1E-506                      317-845-3659
>egg@inuxy.att.com

This is true. The Jets offense was nonexistent, partly because Indi's
young defense played well. However, Nagle was unable to get the job done
like he should have.  He is young and will improve, but until that time,
the Jets offense will be suffering.

                               -Paul

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From: marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall)
Subject: Re: Miami Dolphins #1
Reply-To: marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 04:09:26 GMT

In article <BvzMrw.DM@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v130pwbq@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST) writes:
>
>I wouldn't bet on anyone but the Dolphins on winning the AFC East.

Easy to say now. Where were you six weeks ago?

>Miami Dolphins 5 - 0
>Buffalo Bills  4 - 2 ( 2 losses against AFC opponents )
>
>- Dolphins 14 - 2 AFC East Champs and their sixth Super Bowl. 

The Dolphins have an impressive Won-Lost record so far, but they are
not a Super Bowl-caliber team. There are simply too many holes. If Miami
*DOES* turn out to be the AFC representative in the Super Bowl, then
they will get chewed up by the NFC representative.

>    _____________________________________________________________________
>   |  "Life's a Bitch and then we all        * Eric Orologio " Dr. O"    |
>   |   get fucked"                           * V130pwbq @ubvms           |
>   |_____________________________________________________________________|

Gee, what a pleasant and mature sig...

=============================================================================
Bob Marshall                     \\     "It ain't age
Lockheed Missiles & Space Co.     \\     That makes me look this way
Sunnyvale, CA                      \\    It ain't the years, boys,
marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com\\   It's the miles"
"I tell the truth 'cept when I lie"  \\     - Chris LeDoux
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From: rwturner@IASTATE.EDU (Richard W Turner)
Subject: Re: AFC-Daydreams
Reply-To: rwturner@IASTATE.EDU (Richard W Turner)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:38:55 GMT

In article <21039@plains.NoDak.edu>, sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan
) writes:
> ...............................
> 
> After seeing the Eagles perform, I ask, Is there any AFC-team
> which can take on the Eagles when it counts. No offence, I just
> cannot see a single AFC team having the credentials.

  Probably true, but I don't think any other NFC team has the
  credentials either.

Richard Turner
DOLFAN
From: cfh@cbnews.cb.att.com (chuck.himmelspach)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Browns News - 1st qtr review - Steeler preview
Summary: Steelers indigestion, anyone?
Date: 12 Oct 92 13:15:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Oct10.173944.44252@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, tes0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (THOMAS EDWIN SCHMIDLIN) writes:
> In article <1992Oct9.105248.9055@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com>, mocnik@iccgcc.decnet.ab.
> com writes:
> >Browns News - Oct 9th
> >---------------------
> >
> >3. Predictions:
> >   - Pittsburgh has a strong defense and they should be able to stop the
> >     Browns running game.  Thus the Browns will try a couple of trick
> >     plays (ie end-arounds or halfback option passes.) A couple of
> >     successful trick plays will keep the defense guessing.
> >   - The Browns will need to go deep a couple of times so as to get the
> >     safeties and cornerbacks away from the line of scrimmage.
> >   - The defense MUST stop the running game and MUST pressure the QB.
> >     O'Donnell must be forced to pass.
> >   - Special teams and the defense must force turnovers.
> >
> >   Final score: Pitts - 17  Cleveland - 20 on a last second Stover field goal.
> >
> (Pages and pages of mindless ramblings and crap about the browns deleted.)
> 
> Why don't you smell what you're shoveling.  The browns don't stand a chance
> against the STEELERS.  To paraphrase Dave:
> 
>  "The Steelers are going to chew them up and shit them out browner than their
>  name suggests."
> -- 
> 
> 
> Tom Schmidlin       DEEP THOUGHTS: By Jack Handey - If God dwells inside
> TES0@LEHIGH.EDU         us, like some people say, I sure hope he likes
> 215-758-0875            enchiladas, cause that's what he's getting.

The Dave and Tom show is missing something....I'm not sure if it's Moe or
Larry or Curly BUT you guys don't know shit about football. I hope you
both do better in school OR your job(s) of flipping burgers at McDonald's.

The Steelers didn't do much chewing unless you count eating crow. And the only
shitting they did was when the Browns knocked it out of them.

Have a Nice Day and Goooo Browns,

Der Himmel
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: cpg@caribbean.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Curt Goedde)
Subject: Re: GIANTS news
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 14:33:42 GMT

In article <92229@netnews.upenn.edu>, satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
|> 
|> Hi,
|> 
|> This is for Adrienne, Kevin and other GIANTS fans out there (if there are any
|> left on this planet) and anyone else seeking football news not relating to
|> the Eagboys and the Cowgles:
|> 
|> 1) After the hit that Simms took against the Raiders, his arm was sore. 
|> MIR and x-ray revealed a bruised elbow so he's out for Sunday and Hoss is
|> in as quarterback.

Simm's injury is much worse than originally expected.  There is significant
ligament damage along with several floating bone chips in his elbow.  He
will require surgery and is expected to miss at least 6 weeks.  There is
even talk about this ending his career.  Hostetler becomes the starter and
rookie Dave Brown is the backup.
From: jjn@cbjjn.cb.att.com (Jeff Nappi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: HAIL THE BROWNS
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:35:22 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs

In article <92288.20525232BFPQ3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>, Nathan Owen <32BFPQ3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:
|> 
|> One day I had a dream... A dream where Mike Tomzak was cut from the Packers...
|> 
|>     that pleasant dream came true this summer much to my delight.
|> 
|> One day I had a day I had a fantasy... a fantasy of the Pack playing against
|> 
|>     Mike Tomzak... what more could you ask for... and alas... my fantasy
|> 
|>     has come true.  What a wonderful life it is...
|> 
|> A grateful Packer fan.

...And Sunday night you will have a "Nightmare", guess who's in it.-)

Oops, did I just woof????

GO BROWNS!!!
-- 
Jeff Nappi
Columbus Bell Labs
jjn@cbjjn.att.com
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From: cl129424@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: Should Marv Levy Be Fired?
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:57:41 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Louisville

> Jonny B.
> 
> P.S. -- and YES, using my argument, you can say Miami is better than Buffalo
> right now, seeing as how they beat us at home.  We shall see what happens at
> Joe Robbie on MNF.

      I'm counting the minutes. Joe Robbie Stadium will be rockin and rollin,
and the Dolphins should add their ninth victory to their season total. Right
now I'm just praying that the Dolphins don't ease up till after January. One 
at a time, one at a time. (But damn they look good.)

                                 -doug THE dolfan-
From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Packers starting QB - Majik or Favre
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:50:58 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

In article <1992Oct15.173508.18823@daffy.cs.wisc.edu>, jeffr@ssec.wisc.edu (Jeff Ramin) writes...

>In article <1992Oct15.165122.14980@macc.wisc.edu>, heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
>|> 
>|> Majik is not practicing.  He only recently started running again and 
>|> only in a straight line (no cutting).  Favre will start vs the Browns.
>|> 
>|> >I'm not a big Majik fan, but give the guy a chance, if
>|> >he can't perform up to Holmgrens level, I'm sure Mike won't hesitate to 
>|> >sit'em down and reinstate Favre as number one.
>|> 
>|> Yeah, this is right.  It should take maybe 2-3 games to make sure one 
>|> way or the other.  At this point the Packers can afford to have some 
>|> mediocre QB play even if it costs them a few games.
> 
>I disagree with you John.  The three games that Favre has started, he's shown
>that he is head and shoulders above Majkowski {I refuse to use his nickname}.
>He's been less than a sub-par quarterback since '89.  Too many fumbles.  More
>interceptions than TD's.  Badly missing wide open receivers.  I don't know
>if we can blame this on injuries, or if '89 was just a fluke.

I'm not saying I think Majkowski is a better QB.  Just that I would 
give him another chance.  It's better to know for sure whether he can 
come back or not.  I originally thought Holmgren would not return 
Majkowski to the starting QB spot.  Holmgren is a bottom line guy - 
you produce or you're gone.  But Holmgren is talking like Majkowski 
will be the starter when he returns.  This will be his last chance.  
I guess we'll see.

>And you can call me a silly, optimistic Packer fan if you want, but I don't 
>think you should write their season off yet.  They're 2-3, and with the dozens
>of wild cards the league is passing out nowadays, 9-7 may be good enough for
>a playoff berth.  

When was the last time 9-7 got a wildcard in the NFC?  Last year the 
49ers didn't make it at 10-6.  In 1989 the Pack didn't make it at 
10-6.  Look at the teams the Packers will be competing against for 
wildcards, Redskins, Cowboys, and/or Eagles, and the 49ers or Saints.  
The Packers have to go 8-3 for the rest of the season to have a chance 
at a wild card.  Forget it.

JGH
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From: pc0837@sarah.albany.edu (COHEN PAUL L)
Subject: Re: Don't give up on the Bills.
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 12:22:54 GMT

In article <Bw07r0.E19@mail.boi.hp.com> keithg@boi.hp.com (Keith Glasson) writes:
>Imran Qureshi (iqrh_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu) wrote:
>: I feel really sorry for the Raiders secondary after the whupping they shall
>: occur on Sunday.  The Bills have a history of having a bad defeat followed by
>: a severe thumping of the following opponent (does anyone remember the merciful
>: 42-6 win over Indianapolis last year?).  
>: 
>: Even the quiet James Lofton hinted on a local news interview that the Bills
>: were looking to light up the scoreboard (and they haven't in the past?).
>: 
>: I don't expect the Bills to establish the run and set up the pass this week.
>: Look for them to open it up with some long balls--something they've been
>: waiting to do all year.  Thomas should get a lot of action as the Bills build
>: a 21 or so point lead in the first half.  I think this will also be the week
>: Carwell "superstar waiting to happen" Gardner gets the ball.  This guy is the
>: next Okoye/Word at 235 lbs and reasonable speed.  He would be a 1000 yard
>: rusher on any other team (after all, the Bills are the #1 rushing team in the
>: NFL again).
>
>___________________________________________________________________
>
>	Well, thanks for sharing that fantasy with us. Now that the
>	Bills have been outscored 57-13 in the last two games, and
>	been pummeled, thrashed, stomped and humiliated by two teams
>	that you had absolutely no respect for, maybe you'll shut up
>	for awhile and take your fantasies elsewhere.
>
>
>	-keith
>
>+++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
No, thank you Keith. Thank you for demonstrating that some people on this
network have much to say after the fact. If the Bills had won, would you
"shut up and take your fantasies elsewhere?"  I guess you wouldn't have too
since you can only criticize picks of other people after the final score
is in. 

I wish everyone on this network would calm down a bit and allow people
to discuss their thoughts on games without the worry of being called:
foolish, idiotic, stupid, crazy, unintelligent, etc.
Maybe the above prediction was a fantasy, but so what!!!  Live a little.
It can be fun.

                                     -Paul

P.S. I would like to hear any comments anyone has on tonights game:
Washington & Denver
If you prefer you can email them to me, so that you don't get attacked
by the "know-it-alls".  

                              pc0837@sarah.albany.edu
From: jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Eagles Roster Moves
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:59:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsm.1992Oct14.195941.1241
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T


The Philadelphia Eagles have activated TE Maurice Johnson and
DT Mike Pitts for this Sunday's game against the Washington
Redskins at RFK.  DT Leon Seals and rookie RB Tony Brooks were
placed on IR to make room for the recently activated players.

The return of Mike Pitts to the defensive line should give the
Eagles that depth they so cherish there.  They can rotate Pitts,
Mike Golic, and Andy Harmon to keep fresh troops in the game.
Seals has been hampered by knee problems and has been in and out
of the lineup since being traded to the Eagles.

Maurice Johnson will share time with Pat Beach at tight end
which will allow the Eagles to use Keith Byars more out of the
backfield.  Byars has been used at TE to make up for the loss
of Keith Jackson.


E-A-G-L-E-S

Joe Dakes
AT&T Microelectronics
555 Union Boulevard
Allentown, PA  18103
alux2!jmd
From: z_phillipsra@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: wanted
Date: 13 Oct 92 03:23:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: ccsvax.1992Oct12.212343.1468
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

wanted 2 tickets to eagles vs. cowboys on Nov. 1
From: v130pwbq@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Pissed
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:21:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Some of you may be wondering why I am ripping on the Bills like I am.
Here in the Buffalo the newspaper has a compettiion every week. The object
of the game is to pick straight out who is going to win each football game
that is played Sunday. In order to win you must get all games correct.
The pot this week was $1,000. when it was all said and done I had gotten
1 game incorrect. Guess which one. I mean all you heard up here in Buffalo
was how resilient this team was and how they were going to bounce back.
Everyone here was thinking blowout..in favor of the Bills. So of course
i'm a little upset. 

Go Dolphins 14 - 2 (AFC East Champions)
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   |  "Life's a Bitch and then we all        * Eric Orologio " Dr. O"    |
   |   get fucked"                           * V130pwbq @ubvms           |
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From: mas@aero.org (Marcus A.Shaw)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Philly is *UNLUCKY*
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:54:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1b46erINNmch
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aerospace.aero.org

Well, I don't really believe that, but I just wanted to put out my
version of the Dallas luck vs. no luck before it gets lost in the 
noise...

No, Philly did not get lucky.  Yes, defensive pressure does cause
mistakes and Philly capitalized on those mistakes.  Philadelphia
is the better team.  Philadelphia would probably win 8 out of 10 
at a neutral site or better.  A tipped interception counts as a 
bad throw if it was tipped by the defense.  They caused the INT
with their pressure and an Eagle defender caused the opportunity.
They caused the fumble in classic football defensive style, stripping
it from an inexpierenced receiver (namely an offensive lineman).  It
was a BAD play from Dallas's point of view because first of all Dallas
missed the pass (or it got defensed, or both), and second of all,
the Offensive lineman should either not catch it or not fumble it. 
The onus of that play is on his shoulders and is a positive way
that the Eagles make use of every opportunity.  The first INT was
a bad throw early in the game, once again it was in Dallas's lap
and a 'right place at the right time' sort of a play for Philly.

However, can the Eagles fans out there really say they found
nothing in the game to worry about?  Something that could lead
to an untimely loss or a crack under pressure?  Maybe that the
offense was not as dominant against a bad Dallas secondary as
I thought it should have been?   Philly dominated the game and
did not get particularly lucky.  They are the better team right
now and we will see the changes both teams must make 4 weeks from
now.

*ice*
From: mas@aero.org (Marcus A.Shaw)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: WHAT! No Dallas Bashing?
Date: 7 Oct 1992 19:07:05 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aerospace.aero.org

In article <1992Oct7.143202.173043@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> swh0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (STEPHEN WILLIAM HUMINSKI) writes:

>After all the debate and arguing the Eagles fans aren't gloating and the
>Dallas fans aren't saying "Wait 4 weeks?"  Fine, here's my $.02

But, the Eagles fans ARE gloating, & Dallas fans are still in shock :^)

>Eagle's D dominated.  Aikman looked slow and a lot of his passes were behind
>the recievers.  Cunningham didn't pass as well as before but got the
>job done.

Which means that the deity of current NFL QB's can be defensed and/or
can have a bad game.

>Dallas' secondary did a better job than I thought but the LB's didn't. 

Dallas's LB missed several key tackles on Walker and Cunninham, but in
a reduced role, rookie MLB Robert Jones had 16 tackles.  That is
something to look forward to.

>did OK but not good enough (<100 yds).  Eagles running game did better than
>Dallas' (I'm not sure about the #'s tho).

But Walker was held to under 100 yards.  Can you name the last NFL
running back to go over 100 yards vs. Dallas?  An when has Dallas's
depleted secondary held ANY passer to less than 200 yards passing
and/or had an INT (almost 2!).  Three are positives to this story,
despite the score and the woofing....

>the next month for the Eagles. If they go 8-0 they should end up either 15-1
>or 14-2 (nobody will ever go 16-0 again).  

I can believe some team might go 16-0 and it might even be the Eagles
this year.  However, if Cunningham goes down or the defense hits a
slump (or has a weakness exposed, look at Buffalo's 'unstoppable'
Offense vs. the Fish), they could be looking at 10-6.  All of this
'if' talk is taken with the required grains of salt....

>No reason to see anybody else in the SB from the NFC.

I wish you had said "at this point in the season".  Things change a
lot over the course of a year.  Youth and Inexperience change to
bravado and talent and Age and Experience sometimes change into aching
bones and tired bodies.  I still think the Eagles are the best team in
the NFL right now, and if I had to pick a superbowl participant, it
would be them.  However, the Buffalo game and the Redskins/Cards game
make me wonder if any prediction is safe in this NFL of ours....

Oh yeah, I almost forgot, "Just Wait 4 Weeks"  :^)  :-)  :')  :.)  :*)

*ice*
From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Some observations
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:30:19 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX

In article <BILLMS.92Oct8085257@quip.eecs.umich.edu> billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith) writes:
>In article <92282.104944RZANDBER@ESOC.BITNET> RENE ZANDBERGEN <RZANDBER@ESOC.BITNET> writes:
>   2) Who is this player called K-mart and why is he called that?
>Kevin Martin, great posession receiver for the Cowboys, but  not a
>big play threat.

Small correction:  his name is "Kelvin".  Based on this, he also has another
nickname that is not as widely known:  Farenheit.

Daniel Welch
From: austin@cs.widener.edu (Jeff Austin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: EAGLES, COWBOYS
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:09:07 GMT
Organization: Widener University CS Department, Chester PA
NNTP-Posting-Host: shirley.cs.widener.edu

In article <cep7wXi00UhWM4i3V9@andrew.cmu.edu> jw5c+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jeffrey Weeks) writes:
>I have read enough of this pandering shit about how good the Eagles are.
> Lucky is more like it.  Any team that gets a triple-tipped interception
>and a fumble from an experienced reciever like an offensive lineman. 
>Cut out these flukes and the Cowboys kick Philly's vaunted defense
>around.  Don't worry you guys have no offense so enjoy being on top for
>one week.

	Don't worry - you have no clue, so enjoy being a moron for a week.
-- 
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From: bell@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Miami rolls on!!
Date: 11 Oct 92 16:54:25 GMT


	Unbelievable!!!  Miami is doing great!!!!   The only undefeated team in
the NFL and Buffalo is currently doing terrible in the first half.  What's
happened to Thurman Thomas he is running terrible in the last two games.
I love it!!!!!

		Shane L. Bell