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From: dfplant@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Douglas Plant)
Subject: Re: A question about bears...
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 17:46:56 GMT

I don't think that the ways of dealing with a bear encounter have
fashions; there are as many ways as there are people who have run 
into a bear and made it to dinner the same day. Personally, I've never
had much more time than to be surprised; perhaps yell (scream) or 
start moving in another direction before the bear moved off. Except 
once; by sitting on the doorstep, as it where, of the tent this bear
trapped a friend of mine inside. The bear was eating things out
of the fire pit. My friend would open the door and look out and the
bear would turn around and look back at her and she would close the
door. I tried to get the bear to move; but its nerves where somewhat 
stonger than mine and I didn't seem to impress it. Eventually, I guess
it got bored of the carbon and left. We moved our camp across the
river that afternoon.

I was surprised that Maggie seemed to be such a weak paddler; and that
Joel seemed to know what he was doing. As far as Maggie being an
inexperienced camper, or whatever, I'd like to observe that camping in
the North in the Summer is a lark of finest order.
			Doug.
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From: jeff@onion.rain.com (Jeff Beadles)
Subject: Season's premier, loud musical score?
Reply-To: jeff@onion.rain.com (Jeff Beadles)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 06:02:11 GMT


Is it just me, or was the premier this evening's musical score VERY loud?

It almost seemed like a different show, but still good none the less.

	-Jeff
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From: pciszek@nyx.cs.du.edu (Paul Ciszek)
Subject: sex & death & Joel
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 02:58:43 GMT

Prediction:  When Rob Morrow's contract runs out, Joel will have sex with
Maggie.  Afterwards, he will be mauled by a bear.

--
Paul Ciszek, pciszek@nyx.cs.du.edu | No nation was ever drunk when wine was
                                   | cheap.   -- Thomas Jefferson
From: robby+@CMU.EDU (Robert Bruce Findler)
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Subject: Re: KBHR origin
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:24:50 GMT
	<MAP.92Sep28233421@gaak.LCS.MIT.Edu>
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

As another side light, Does anyone know what the call letters WHFS mean?
(99.1 FM in Washington DC) A good station.

Robby
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From: bjl@loki.research.ptt.nl (Ben Lippolt)
Subject: Re: NX on dutch TV
Reply-To: B.J.Lippolt@research.ptt.nl
Organization: PTT Research
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:32:19 GMT

s0319198@let.rug.nl (E.B. Meijerink) writes:

>an anyone explain to me why Northen Exposure isn't on Dutch television? The 
>series is loeade with emmy's, but all we get is St. Elsewhere reruns. It's 
>just not fair!

It is shown on a German channel (RTL+). Unfortunately it is useless
because they dubbed it in German :-(.

Ben Lippolt.
From: bwatson@nyx.cs.du.edu (bruce watson)
Subject: Re: Where is the Town of Cicely in Alaska?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
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	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 19:39:13 GMT

But is it near Springfield?


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From: pwjarman@cc.utah.edu (PARRY W. JARMAN)
Subject: Re: Canoe last night
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: 30 Sep 1992 20:57 MST  

In article <15741@borg.cs.unc.edu>, crittend@cs.unc.edu writes...
{In article <1a9la3INNq1d@eagle.natinst.com>, winkeler@natinst.com (Keith Winkeler) writes:
{>In article <BvC6sy.JI0.2@cs.cmu.edu> br@cs.cmu.edu writes:
{>>
{>>    ?  What other examples of product placement have
{>>    folks noticed?
{ 
{joel has always worn patagonia gear, which is believable.  the
{patagonia label seems awry, though, as though they wanted it's look
{without being the exact label.  perhaps they wanted the patagonia look
{but they wouldn't pay the product placement fee???
{ 
{so, for those keeping score:
{Old Town canoes
{Anchor Steam
{Apple Macintosh
{Patagonia

Being an Eddie Bauer fanatic: Maggie's yellow coat w/green corduroy collar is $
65 in the current catalogue.  Also, Joel has sported Girbaud jeans--

I don't know if they get product placement but Joel & Maggie both drive 
different trucks--one a Ford, one a Chevy

Ruth Anne will mention products by name-- Progresso soup, Huggies, Mylanta, 
Bowling Green, Old Spice--

Maggie tends to be a walking ad for Eddie Bauer--there is a store right next to 
the sets in Redmond--

From Trivia-R-Us----Heather Jarman


{ 
{Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
{conservatives.
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{_____________________________________________________________________________
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From: jps4800@tamsun.tamu.edu (John Parrish Schweers)
Subject: Re: A question about bears...
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:06:02 GMT

Shooting a bear will just piss him off.

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                                      Aggieland, Texas
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From: julie@skatter.usask.ca
Subject: Re: Tough, independent...?
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 00:57:33 GMT

From article <19tfadINNmet@agate.berkeley.edu>, by jen@savanna.Berkeley.EDU (Jennifer L. Corkill):
> 
> You can always argue about shades of grey, but does Holling come
> across as self-conscious as Maggie does?  How about Chris?  
> 
> It seems to me that whenever Maggie is confronted (by Joel, by
> her mother, by herself) she cowers.  Think about the episode when
> she found out her eyes were "going".  Was her reaction even close
> to self-confident??
> 
> The L.A. Law character Grace (before she got messed up
> with Victor) was way more normal (no, not "too 'positive'") than
> Maggie will ever be.  I guess she's one example of a character
> done right, IMHO.

	But that's the IDEA!  They aren't supposed to be normal 
people.  It's a town full of quirky people.  Both Joel AND Maggie
are self-conscious.  Maggie is a tough person in some ways, and 
very messed up on others.  She is like a lot of people I know.  
Sure there are self confident people out there, but in fiction 
particularly, they are BORING.  If you want tough characters, watch
an adventure movie...  ;)


Jules...  no nifty sig...

 

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From: roberson@eos.ncsu.edu (JAMES D ROBERSON)
Subject: Re: KBHR origin
Originator: roberson@baepm2.bae.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: roberson@eos.ncsu.edu (JAMES D ROBERSON)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:29:36 GMT


toten@bourbon.ee.tulane.edu (Derek Toten) writes:

>	Yes, whenever possible, radio and television license applicants request
>some sort of meaningful combination of letters, even if that meaning is
>known only to the applicant.  In the case of KBHR, whatever it means,
>we know it has nothing to do with Maurice as he BOUGHT the station after
>it was already up and operating.  Maurice didn't apply for the license,
>it already existed.  But what do the letters mean?  My guess is nothing.


I was under the impression that whenever a television station (and I would
think the same would apply to radio) changes hands, the new owner reapplies
for a license with new call letters.  It seems that was what one of the
newspaper published when a local TV station changed ownership and call
letters last year.

Just my $.02

jim


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From: pciszek@nyx.cs.du.edu (Paul Ciszek)
Subject: Where do these titles come from?
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 02:04:04 GMT

I don't recall seeing titles in the opening credits.  Where have you folks 
been getting them?

--
Paul Ciszek, pciszek@nyx.cs.du.edu | No nation was ever drunk when wine was
                                   | cheap.   -- Thomas Jefferson
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From: salomone@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (John ($al) Salomone)
Subject: Re: Season's premier, loud musical score?
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 16:57:32 GMT

->->->Is it just me, or was the premier this evening's musical score VERY loud?
->->->It almost seemed like a different show, but still good none the less.
->->
->->I agree.  Several other posters have commented on the CONTENT of the
->->music on the season premiere, but what struck me was the VOLUME (ie.
->->loudness).  There were several scenes where I had trouble hearing what
->->the characters were saying due to loud music or other background noise
->->(esp. the birds).  Was this a problem with my cable company somehow,
->->or did other people notice this too?
->->

->The volume was terrible! The scene in the Brick, where Shelley talks to 
->Maggie about turning thirty, was awful! I almost couldn't hear the 
->dialog over the music. I live in San Jose, and get TCI cable...there are 
->several different cable companies in the SF Bay Area, so I don't know 
->if it was TCI or what.


I apologize about replying to this post so late but I am way behind on news
and I hope I am not beating a dead horse with this one:

I listened to the season opener in Dolby Surround Sound and I noticed that the
episode sounded alot _better_ than normal.  The background stuff was a lot
more realistic.  I assumed that they started making an effort to Dolby encode
the show for the added enjoyment of those with surround systems.  Normally this
doesn't reduce the quality of the audio for non-surround systems but 
I could understand how the background stuff could possibly get in the way.

Just my hypothesis.

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From: st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Rosaleen Dhu)
Subject: premiere
Reply-To: st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:51:17 GMT

I liked the premiere. I thought that the Joel and Maggie thing was nice, but
a little abrupt. (New writers, I'll be bettin' ye an Anchor Whatever.) I'll
agree with whoever it was that said Rob Morrow's crinkly smile was cute,
altho I'd settle for an Ed grin any day. :) The music was too flippin' LOUD.
Is it just me, or did they wimp out on the coming-to-terms-with-30th-birth-
day thing? I mean, she didn't really resolve anything, she just got rescued
by Princes Charming and Alarming. I thought it was weak.
Wot happened t'Harry? The guy who died from eating funky potato salad? And
why was Glenn such a dweeb? I cannot picture Maggie willingly dating a guy
who acted like that. And am I the only one who was oh-so-glad not to see
Arthur the Bear among the ranks of the dead?
			Rosaleen Dhu
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From: hlee@unixg.ubc.ca (Henry Lee)
Subject: Characters Amiss? (Maggie's 30!) Re: Season Premiere
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:50:46 GMT

In article <gv+p0th@lynx.unm.edu> gworrell@carina.unm.edu (Gayla M. Worrell) writes:
>
>I thought everyone seemed just a little bit off, but I loved it.
>Yes, I thought it was strange, too, that Marilyn wanted to learn to
>drive.  But I thought it was *very* Marilyn-like that she didn't want
>to drive anymore because she "missed walking".  I also thought it was
>great that Ruth Ann smashed the tape recorder.  I was waiting for some-
>one to do something to it.  And, IMO, Ruth Ann is the only one who
>could get away with it.  I thought the music was pretty loud, but I
>thought it was probably just me.  I don't think I've ever paid much attention 
>to the music before I started reading this group.  

Yeah, I'd have to admit that the music was somewhat of a "distraction"
for me, anyway.  In the past, I haven't noticed the background music
because I paid "too close an attention" to what was going on.
In a couple of places, the music did the "wrong turn at Alburqurque. (sp.)"

Now, on to my main point, just who are we to say if characters
just should stay "the way they are?"  Personally, a monkey wrench
thrown into many characters was fun for me to see because I learned
something new about the characters themselves.  Perhaps Joel was
a little "mellow," but then again, Joel & Maggie weren't at it with
each other, were they?  Maggie was having problems dealing with
her 30th birthday and decided to "exorcise" her ghosts, if you will.

And indeed, let's not forget, another revelation by Joel when
Joel & Ed go to Maggie's camp.  That is, Joel is about to
approach the big 3-0 and he's worried/concerned about where he's at
in his life.  And perhaps, was there a smite, a small smidgen
of envy for Maggie when Joel was thinking that perhaps she was
o.k. with turning 30 whereas he perhaps wasn't?

Hey, this business of characters being "out of character"
really isn't a big deal, IMHO.  But perhaps, I just don't
know what the hell I'm talking about.

(Ed finds tracks left behind by Maggie on the beach ...)

Joel : Oh, you're a tracker, huh?   That's great.
       You born with that or you learn that?

Ed   : Beats me.

(My answer would've been "Yes.")    :-)

-- 
Henry Lee   <hlee@unixg.ubc.ca>
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Maggie Cover Story
Date: 29 Sep 92 01:55:17 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1992Sep28.050639.15723@leland.Stanford.EDU>, 
pcl@leland.Stanford.EDU (Paul Chiao Liu) writes:

> I read the article, and it says absolutely nothing about Janine
> Turner having dated Sylvester Stallone, only that she plays opposite
> him in an upcoming movie. Just the thought of Maggie and Rambo
> together, ughh!

Well she does dig him...this was also in Premiere magazine.

"Ughh!" is right!!!

Greg Bole                              "I haven't seen this many sideburns
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu                  since West Side Story."
                                       Nicholas Cage in _Honeymoon in Vegas_
From: jpg7@po.CWRU.Edu (Joseph P. Graves)
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Subject: The opener
Date: 29 Sep 1992 03:03:02 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


I liked this year's season premiere. I don't remeber six boyfriends at the 
table. Who is Steve and where was Harry? 
Harry had to be there because, when fading to the commercial, someone made
the comment, "Great potato salad, Rick." I died laughing.
Well, at least they still write good episodes.
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From: pault@ossi.com (Paul Taylor)
Subject: Holling and Maggie getting it together
Keywords: and  
Organization: Fujitsu America, Inc.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:42:55 GMT

In article <Oct01.041048.83727@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> jamtgaar@CS.ColoState.EDU (arne jamtgaard) writes:
>
>In article <rizzoe.274.717888406@FASECON.ECON.NYU.EDU> rizzoe@FASECON.ECON.NYU.EDU (Emily Rizzo) writes:
>
>
[stuff deleted]

Was it my imagination of were Holling and Maggie getting it together on a
recent episode of Quantum Leap ?.... -:)

USA is showing Quantum Leap in syndication, and one of the episodes was
set during a performance of "Man of La Mancha". Johm Collum was playing
Don Quixote, and I think it was Janine Turner playing a makeup person
who was after him. I could be mistaken ??

I hope this does not mean that Holling is about to be killed by Jessie,
or suffer some other fate. What will Shelly do ??? -:)

-- 
  Paul Taylor pault@ossi.com
"Sometimes you get the bear, and other times the bear gets you.
I think we have just been gotten"
From: zorro@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (John Grabowski)
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Subject: Re: Janine Turner
Date: 2 Oct 92 04:10:33 GMT
Organization: Temple University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


In our local newspaper TV Guide a fan recently wrote in and asked about 
Janine Turner and nowhere in their bio of her did they mention General
Hospital.


John
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From: hitchens@unislc.uucp (Ron Hitchens)
Subject: Re: NX: Satelite feed
Reply-To: hitchens@unislc.UUCP (Ron Hitchens,B2F08,4259,,)
Organization: Unisys, Salt Lake City
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:30:29 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.173209.11492@leland.Stanford.EDU> me@naranja-next.Stanford.EDU (My Account) writes:
>I remember a few days ago that someone posted the information to watch the  
>NX feed off a satelite on saturday mornings.  I didn't have access to a  
>Satelite TV, so I ignored the information.  But now I find out that I have  
>access to one and I don't have the information.

    The wild feed of Northern Exposure is on satellite T1, channel 13 at
4:00am EST Sunday morning (ie, late Saturday night).  Happily, for the first
two episodes so far, there has been a slate on that channel for an hour
before the feed saying "Northern Exposure episode ###, tape rolls at 4:00".
I saw that while channel flipping and was able to catch the season premiere.
Not all feeds give you so much prior notice (they are not intended for the
general public after all).  This NEXP feed is from the production company to
the network, so there are no commercials.

    I saw episode #2 Sunday morning.  Not bad, Joel goes "sun silly" from
the midnight sun, some priceless dialog between Joel and Maggie.  Enjoy.

    BTW, I believe the feed for Quantum Leap is on E2/12 at 2:00am EST on
Tuesday morning.

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Date: Sun,  4 Oct 1992 10:04:51 -0400 
From: Jason Lee Smith <js06+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: NX Premiere "Northwest Passages"
	<7TRM7#4#9@linac.fnal.gov>
Distribution: na

Uh, excuse me, on the first episode of "Northern Exposure" Maurice said
something to the effect of "I always thought what we needed around here
was a good Jew Doctor."

I think that pretty well establishes his character right there, and I
really don't think hearing racial slurs coming from him is all that odd.


By the way, while we're on the topic of minorities. Who else thinks
Maurice is gay, but trying to deny it?

		Jason


A cap of good acid costs five dollars and for that you can hear the
Universal Symphony with God singing solo and the Holy Ghost on drums.
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From: barb@ufycorp.Unify.Com (Barbara Kane)
Subject: Re: A question about bears...
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 19:50:38 GMT

In article <harris.717764458@drvax3> harris@drvax3.msfc.nasa.gov (Mitch Harris) writes:
>The season premier was pretty good, but now I have a question. When
>Maggie went camping, I noticed she didn't even have a gun with her.
>Aren't there alot of bears roaming around Alaska (or am I victim of a
>stereotype)?

Even if there aren't, I can't see Maggie go anywhere out of town without
her gun.  Remember the "stranded" episode?  She was set, with a tent, gun,
just about everything except food.  She didn't even take her tent with
her to go camping!  Good observation.  Of course, we can always excuse it
by saying she had a gun, we just didn't see it.



Barbara Kane                                             Unify Corporation
* He befriended a lump of wood and took it everywhere with him.  He used *
* to throw dogs for it to fetch and could never understand why it didn't *
* retreive them.      - Jeremy Pascall                                   *
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From: harris@drvax3.msfc.nasa.gov (Mitch Harris)
Subject: A question about bears...
Organization: NASA/MSFC
Date: 29 Sep 92 11:00:58 GMT

The season premier was pretty good, but now I have a question. When
Maggie went camping, I noticed she didn't even have a gun with her.
Aren't there alot of bears roaming around Alaska (or am I victim of a
stereotype)?
Granted, I am a coward, I admit it, but I would be petrified to see in
the Alaskan wilderness without a gun! 

......posted for the missus, Beverly H.
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From: watson@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John S. Watson - FSC)
Subject: Re: Where is the Town of Cicely in Alaska?
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 23:24:13 GMT


In one of the episodes from the first season,
that they indicated on a map that Cicely was somewhere on the interior
the Kenai peninsula.  This fits because 1) fairly close to Anchorage,
2) relatively large trees 3) never perpetually dark in winter 
and 4) never incredibly cold (i.e. more like Anchorage weather, 
not Fairbanks).

Even on the Kenai though, there are days in the summer where it
really doesn't get to dark. I wish they'd do an episode where
some of the characters go batty because of that,  and one episode
where they go batty from it being  dark most the time.

John S. Watson, Civil Servent from Hell          ARPA: watson@ames.arc.nasa.gov
HOMEBREW NAKED! --- Ursus cerevisiae nudium  (The Bare Beer Bear)

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From: jtl@ddsw1.mcs.com (Joe Lynn)
Subject: : NEXP Collection Gone
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:12:52 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Macro Computer Solutions, Inc.
Keywords: Tapes!


The tape collection is gone.  Thanks to everyone who responded.


Joe Lynn
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From: matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: John Collum
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:00:54 GMT

In article <rizzoe.274.717888406@FASECON.ECON.NYU.EDU>, rizzoe@FASECON.ECON.NYU.EDU (Emily Rizzo) writes:
> 
> I'm new to this group so please forgive me if this is a question which 
> has been raised before (and yes I did read the FAQ).
> 
> Is John Cullum, the actor who plays Holling Vincoeur, the same one who 
> appeared over 20 years ago in a tv spy series, can't remember the name but 
> he (at least I think it was he) played the Russian sidekick, Illyia 
> Kuriakin (sp), of an American named Napoleon Solo.  It was actually quite a 
> good series, as I recall.  Anyone out there old enough to remember?
> 
> Emily 

I was in love with Ilya Kuryakin,  of course, I was about 9 at the time, but
the actor's name was David McCallum, and he's British.  Not the same person.
Napoleon Solo was played by Robert Vaughn.  My friends and I used to go out
and play Man From Uncle till the proverbial cows came home.  Thanks for the
memories!

Kellie
internet::matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
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