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From: Peter Purgathofer <root@iguwnext.tuwien.ac.at>
Subject: Help: Using Ethernet-Printer on a NeXT
X-Xxdate: Fri, 14 Aug 92 18: 57:12 GMT
Organization: Institute for design and assessment of technology
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:55:09 GMT

We have a Macintosh Network with some machines having Ethernet/Ethertalk,
and some machines having LocalTalk/AppleTalk. These machines all print on
one printer, a HP LaserJet III via an Ethernet device (EtherPrint) (some
machines - with AppleTalk - go thru a router). 

We want to be able to use this printer, since it is on Ethernet, with out
NeXTstation. Is this possible? Do we have to wait for 3.0 (which is said
to play AppleTalk)? Or is this just a matter of installation (seems to be
a tough job, then)

Please email answers to me, i'll post the solution, if wanted...

Thanx in advance,

Peter Purgathofer
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"ROMANES EUNT DOMUS"     (Brian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kinch@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Dave Kinchlea)
Subject: SUMMARY: Re: Two Questions From a New NeXT Sysadmin
Organization: /u/kinch/.organization
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:12:35 GMT

Howdy:
As promised, the summary to my Two Questions. 

No suprises really, the -console is a process which switches ownership
to whoever is logged in at the console and lives as long as the
machine is up, or until killed (either the Wrong Way: kill, or the
Right Way: login as exit). 

Everybody said basically the same thing re: the ps process: ps is setuid; QED.
I am not sure I like this behaviour, it is (of course) not limited to
ps but is true for all setuid programs. I looked into who else does
this and my (very) limited study found:

Sun running SunOS 4.1.1 and NextStep appear to both actually change the user
field (real user?). I almost didn't notice Sun's behaviour as its ps
is setgid and (of course) the owner of the process was unaffected.

SGI running IRIX 4.0.1, Sequent running DYNIX 3.1.0 and
DYNIX/ptx 1.3.0b2, CDC running EP/IX 1.4.2, 
IBM running AIX 3.2.1: show the invocator as the owner of
the process.

[RISC/OS (don't know the version) appears to also show the invocator as
the owner but it is hard to say for sure as the only setuid program
tested was ps and it is also setgid.]

As NextStep is, I believe, Mach based and SunOS 4.1.1 is (still?) BSD
based as is DYNIX and EP/IX, this does not appear to have much to do
with historical ways of doing things. (I am sure someone will correct
me if I am wrong)

So, is the observed behaviour deliberate (ie: did the designers of
NextStep and/or Mach expect or want the owner to change with setuid
programs) or is this a consequence of something I am not taking into
consideration? (Just for the record, this is really just for the sake
of curiosity, I am not losing any sleep over this issue ;-()


If there is anybody who wants a better explanation than the one I have
provided, for either of the two questions, I can certainly send along
the replies I received.

cheerskinch

Dave Kinchlea            
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From: horde@reed.edu (Mr. Heiji Horde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: COPS on NeXT
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:24:17 GMT
Organization: Twisted Genius Rehabilitation Center, a Division of MHE

In article <Bt3oLt.KKK@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes:
>Also, crack is in that same directory and is quite useful if you run
>a machine which lots of people use.  Compiles just fine on NeXT.

If you're using Crack on your NeXT, I sure hope that you're doing a
  nidump before running it over the password file.

Also, several other security holes on the NeXT can't be fixed without
  getting source to hack at. And NeXT doesn't provide these to anyone. foo!

	-Heiji
	 "All my nightmares involve Netinfo."
-- 
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From: phayes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick W Hayes)
Subject: COPS on NeXT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 22:38:54 GMT

Does anyone use the COPS security checker on the NeXT? What version do you
use, and how well do you think it knows what its doing on the NeXT?

Thanks,
Patrick Hayes
From: alberto@parsec.mixcom.com (Manuel Alberto Ricart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Surge Supressor - not needed on NeXTs?!!
Date: 16 Aug 92 03:52:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: parsec.1992Aug16.035238.222
Reply-To: alberto@parsec.uucp
Organization: I keep everything where I <most likely> can find it.

This is weird, but anyhow:

	Tip #13 (ominous number!) on the latest and greatest NeXTWorld:

		Save your money; Don't buy surge suppresors
		for your NeXT. They are built in.

While this is great news. I don't know if I should 'plug direct', I have not seen  
this documented anywhere else. This marvelous power supply I would imagine is  
quite a bit more expensive to replace than my ol' ISOBAR. Any thoughts?

If this is true, this should be a FAQ, it could save some folks a bit of money.

-- 
Manuel Alberto Ricart
alberto@parsec.mixcom.com <NeXTMail Welcome>
From: horde@reed.edu (Mr. Heiji Horde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Virus via mail
Keywords: Is it possible?
Date: 19 Aug 92 23:20:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Aug19.232002.17662
Organization: Twisted Genius Rehabilitation Center, a Division of MHE

In article <1992Aug19.145655.8372@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo) writes:
>Would it be possible for someone to spread a virus via NeXTMail?
>It seems as though if a person threw a destructive program in the mail,
>and an unknowing user launched it right from his/her mailbox, a lot of
>damage could be done.

Assuming the person was unknowing and launched anything they got in the mail.

That seems easy enough. Although it seems more trojan horse than virus.
  To be effective, you'd need the virus, once launched, that way do things like:
    1) [deleted]
    2) [deleted]
    3) [deleted]
    4) [deleted]

Soon you should have many people with very full mailboxes.

There have also been rumours of people working on Postscript viruses.
  But those would only work if you are a public window server (I think).

A possible kludge for this would be to have NeXTMail check for dangerous
  commands to execute (like Cnews does now) since it must extract/uudecode
  the inclusion before executing it.

   =====

After further thought, I deleted the exact procedure of how you would write
  a NeXTmail virus above. I don't want to cause people any inconvienience.
  But, if you think hard enough, it takes about 1/2 hour to write.

DISCLAIMER: I do not condone this type of activity. I am only posting this
  because I believe this to be a very important security problem that was
  created _unintentionally_ (as most security holes are. And this needs to
  be addressed.

-- 
===========================================================================
 Mr. Heiji Horde    (Non NeXT mail only please)     e-mail: horde@reed.edu
   All insane acts are done in affiliation with Madd Hacker Enterprises
               "ALL ABOARD, the lunacy train is pulling out."
From: coke%net23@spectrx.saigon.com (Brian Policky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: aliases
Date: 9 Aug 92 21:57:21 GMT

I am having some old aliases showing up. I looked in the net info and in  
the /LocalLibrary/Images/People/aliases and have not found it. I have also  
looked at the users .mailalias file. The alias that shows up isn't in any  
of those places, and when I put a different alias for the same word in the  
/LocalLibrary/Images/People/aliases file, it is still overridden with this  
phantom alias. I need to know of all of the places where sendmail (or  
whatever) looks for aliases. I am running a lone NeXTcube with 2.1 OS.

Thanks

coke
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From: rolfe@ldp.com (Rolfe Tessem)
Subject: Re: NeXT as Mac server?
Reply-To: rolfe@ldp.com
Organization: Lucky Duck Productions
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:12:42 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.041127.8872@cubetech.com> andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew  
Loewenstern) writes:
> In article <1992Aug12.140612.10627@ldp.com> rolfe@ldp.com writes:
(Original question about NeXT serving Macs delted)

> >You can install CAP, although currently it requires an Ethernet/Localtalk  
> >router like a Fastpath or Gatorbox.  I don't know whether 3.0's support  
for  
> >Appletalk in the kernel will change this, but I would think it should.   
Other 
> >than that glitch, CAP works great and is fairly mature at this point.
> 
> No, 3.0 only lets you become an AppleShare _client_ and not a
> sever.  You'll need something like uShare to get the Macs talking
> TCP/IP and NFS to let the NeXT be a server.
> 

Yes, I realize that, but my point was that NeXT has obviously put Appletalk  
support in the kernel in order to support the Appleshare client stuff that  
ships with 3.0.  With that in place, I would think the CAP maintainers could  
come up with the patches to support Ethertalk.  Currently this support only  
exists for Suns and DecStations, although CAP runs on a whole slew of  
hardware.

What does uShare offer that CAP doesn't (other than the native ethernet stuff  
we're talking about?)

Rolfe


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From: wucolin@popeye.CIS.McMaster.CA (Colin Wu)
Subject: Re: printing pages in reverse order
Reply-To: wucolin@popeye.CIS.McMaster.CA (Colin Wu)
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:44:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.150405.6011@zip.eecs.umich.edu>  
blommer@euler.eecs.umich.edu (Michael Alan Blommer) writes:
# This may be a FAQ, but I have not found the answer anywhere.  Does anyone now  
# how to reverse the order in which the NeXT printer prints out pages?  That  
is,  
# how can I make so that the printer begins printing with the first page of a  
# document instead of the last page of a document?
# 
# Thanks in advance,
# Mike
# blommer@engin.umich.edu

If it is I couldn't find it with Librarian.

I use /usr/lib/transcript/psrev in a shell script as the output filter in the  
queue.  psrev accepts POSTSCRIPT input on its stdin, reverses the page order  
and places the output on its stdout.

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  /  )   //            ' )   /       Network Analyst
 /    __|/  o ____      / / / . .    Computing & Information Services
(__/ (_) \_<_/ / <_    (_(_/ (_/_    McMaster University
email:	wucolin@popeye.CIS.McMaster.CA	(NeXTmail welcome)
	wucolin@McMaster.CA		(Generic email only)
From: coke%net23@spectrx.saigon.com (Brian Policky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: aliases
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 01:22:58 GMT

I was having a problem with an alias for the mail application that was  
popping up. I had removed all of the aliases that I had added in NetInfo,  
yet it was still there. I also had looked in  
LocalLibrary/Images/People/aliases, and it wasn't there either.  
Thankfully, szebra!happy-man.com!Irving_Wolfe was able to answer my  
question by telling me to look at /etc/sendmail/aliases and sure enough, I  
had put an alias there earlier when I had been poking around. Thanks alot!

coke
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From: root@serena.ee.pdx.edu (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Two problems.....
Keywords: Prints, unknown users
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:34:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: pdxgate.6011
Reply-To: sore@serena.ee.pdx.edu

I have recently been give a NeXT to administer, and I am having two  
problems. First, I am ypbinding and nfs-mounting accounts from a sun 3/50  
to my NeXT, and the people are able to log in modify their files and all  
that sort of stuff, but a "who" a "finger" a "ps" all say that the user is  
"UNKNOWN", and "whoami" says "Intruder Alert". My second problem is that I  
am trying to use the network printer, a HP LaserJet III, that is on a  
Sparc IPC running 4.1.2, it seem that in the cf* file that the NeXT  
creates there is a "R:400", SunOS 4.1.2 does not like the "R:400" and  
throws the print job out(It prints just fine under 4.1.1). Is there some  
way to make it so that the "R:" field is not entered, or removed.
                           Adam Harrison
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Subject: Re: What's a better block size for a Fuji 520M drive?
Reply-To: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 18:35:55 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.013435.15349@leland.Stanford.EDU> m@crito.stanford.edu  
(M Carling) writes:
=>In article <1992Aug18.231820.948@convex.com> finger@convex.com (Jay  
=>Finger) writes:
=>> Will the NeXT support sector sizes greater than 1024 bytes?  Since the  
=>sd
=>> driver reads/writes 8K chunks, might one find even better performance  
=>with
=>> 8K sectors?
=>
=>If the disk could do it, and the computer could do it, 8K blocks would be  
=>faster (not much) and increase capacity (again not much). But unless you  
=>have just a few files each of which is quite large, that is not an  
=>efficient way to use space. Also, I don't know of any drives which support  
=>8K blocks. NeXT's current software supports 512 byte or 1024 byte blocks,  
=>and I haven't heard anything that would suggest that they are considering  
=>changing that.
=>

Actually, the NeXT also supports 2048 byte blocks/sectors as that is what the  
CD-Rom has for a sector size...

=>M Carling
=>Director, Bay Area NeXT Group
=>--

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: HOSTID fun
From: eer1@midway.uchicago.edu(Paul Woods)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:48:41 GMT
Reply-To: eer1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

According to the man page on "hostid", the hostid can be changed.  so why when  
I try to change it, it tells me that it does not want to let me.  Is it truly  
possible to change it?  I thought that it was. 


Thanks,

Paul-

 Here is the Man and the response I get from the command:

------------------------

noproblem> man hostid

HOSTID(1)           UNIX Programmer's Manual            HOSTID(1)

NAME
     hostid - set or print identifier of current host system

SYNOPSIS
     hostid [ identifier ]

DESCRIPTION
     The hostid command prints the identifier of the current host
     in hexadecimal.  This numeric value is expected to be unique
     across all hosts and is commonly set to the host's Internet
     address.

SEE ALSO
     gethostid(2)

noproblem> hostid 0x100fbf0
sethostid: Invalid argument
noproblem> 

--



____________________________________
	Paul R. Woods
     University of Chicago
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From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Subject: Re: NFS and CDROM question
Reply-To: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:42:31 GMT

In article <3393@ra.nrl.navy.mil> dean@n5170a.nrl.navy.mil (Dean Clamons)  
writes:
=>A second question along the same lines is whether there is a way to get  
=>the CDROM to always mount under the same mount point (eg /cdrom) instead  
=>of under a mount point which is related to the name of the disk. The  
=>reason I would like to do this is so that the CDROM can always be mounted  
=>from another system by using the same name (assuming that I can mount it  
=>at all!).

Add and entry to /etc/fstab to make it something like (make sure the entry is  
READ_ONLY!!!).  If there is not a disk in the CD-Rom drive apon boot up, it  
will ask you to insert the disk into the drive.  Also, this has only worked  
for the NeXTStep Prerelease disks.  This does not work for any ISO9600 format  
disks for some strange reason (we wanted to have Exploring Mathematics with  
Mathematica mounted in one of our drives.  Caused a panic every time we  
booted):

#
#       DO NOT DELETE THIS FILE, IT IS REQUIRED FOR BOOTING
#
#       This file contains information used to mount local hard disks.  
#       Consult your system administration and networking manual
#       for information on adding local disks.  Information on the format
#       of entries in this file can also be found in the fstab man page,
#       search for fstab in Digital Librarian.
#
/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
/dev/sd1a /cdrom 4.3 ro,noquota 0 0


=>
=>Your comments would be welcomed.
=>
=>--
=>Dean Clamons
=>Naval Research Lab
=>Code 5110
=>Washington, DC 20375
=>(202) 767-2384
=>dean@n5170a.nrl.navy.mil

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From: jpc@gauss.msri.org (Joe Christy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NeXT to SPARCprinter
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 21 Aug 1992 22:28:43 GMT
Organization: Mathematical Sciences Research Institute, Berkeley
Distribution: world
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From: jiro@shaman.com (Jiro Nakamura)
Subject: Re: COPS on NeXT
Organization: Shaman Consulting
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 19:21:56 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.223854.23396@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>  
phayes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick W Hayes) writes:
> Does anyone use the COPS security checker on the NeXT? What version do  
you
> use, and how well do you think it knows what its doing on the NeXT?


 I run it weekly on my NeXT network here. I'm not sure of the version, the  
README only has the following info:

   dan farmer
   January 31, 1989

So it seems quite old. It is NeXT aware, though. It only has problems with  
recognizing that sticky bits on directories do not imply security holes.

	- Jiro
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From: js@courant.princeton.edu (Jay Sekora)
Subject: NextStep 3.0 on 8M/105+105 system?
Reply-To: js@Princeton.EDU
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:07:04 GMT

Hoping this isn't something that's been discussed before.

I have an 8M/105 25MHz '040 system, with another external 105M drive,
running 2.1.  Needless to say, it's a bit slow, but I'm a patient
person.  I'm running Louis Mamakos' SLIP on it.

I'm looking into putting 3.0 on it.  It's not likely I'll be able to
get more memory or more disk space in the near term.  So what I'm
wondering is this:

(1) Is it physically possible to cram a reasonable minimal 3.0 system
onto two separate 105M drives?  If so, would I be able to do it with the
Installer, or would I have to do the install on a larger filesystem
and copy bits and pieces by hand?

(2) I realize that 3.0 is going to run slower than 2.0, especially on
an 8M system.  But is it going to be so outrageous as not to make any
sense?  (I typically don't have more than a couple apps, plus the
Workspace, open at once.)

Thanks.
---j.

Jay Sekora, Systems Administrator          | email: js@princeton.edu
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From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Virus via mail
Keywords: Is it possible?
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:31:44 GMT
Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


In article <1992Aug19.232002.17662@reed.edu> horde@reed.edu (Mr. Heiji Horde) writes:
>In article <1992Aug19.145655.8372@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo) writes:
>>Would it be possible for someone to spread a virus via NeXTMail?
>>It seems as though if a person threw a destructive program in the mail,
>>and an unknowing user launched it right from his/her mailbox, a lot of
>>damage could be done.
>
>Assuming the person was unknowing and launched anything they got in the mail.

At least in 3.0 PR2 Mail, if you double-click an executable in a mail message,
a Caution Panel opens, but it's message is pretty mild:

"This file is executable"

The Panel allows the user to continue or cancel.  But I'd suggest a stronger
message (maybe the 3.0 release is better in this respect).
-- 

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From: m@crito.stanford.edu (M Carling)
Subject: Re: COPS on NeXT
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 18:18:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.162417.6607@reed.edu> horde@reed.edu (Mr. Heiji  
Horde) writes:
> Also, several other security holes on the NeXT can't be fixed without
>   getting source to hack at. And NeXT doesn't provide these to anyone. 

The known security holes were fixed have been plugged in 3.0. What was  
first thought to be a security hole in 3.0 was discovered about a week  
ago, but it turns out to only be a hole if you are running with a ROM  
version that never made it outside of NeXT. So it isn't a hole.

NeXT does provide source if you buy a source license. Last I checked, it  
was $10,000.

M Carling
Director, Bay Area NeXT Group
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From: brad%raven@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca (Brad Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: next disks and swapfiles
Date: 19 Aug 92 02:11:53 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.162747.1@ccsua.ctstateu.edu>  
rutherford@ccsua.ctstateu.edu writes:
> How does the next maintain swap files? There is no entry in fstab for it
> (or for my second hard drive, and internal 105 quantum).  There is an entry
> for my boot drive. I am assuming that the internal drive is mounted
> automatically by a non-standard method.  I have seen the swapfile in
> /private/vm, and have wondered if it is possible to either physically
> relocate it to the internal drive or to use a symbolic link instead.

   do 'man mach_swapon'. 

   do 'head -60 /etc/rc | tail -10'  (look for line with 'mach_swapon')

   do 'cat /etc/swaptab'

That oughta give you some ideas!

You can even have multiple swapfiles, so they can chew ALL of
your disk space.  :-)

-Brad        brad%raven@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
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