HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: peterj@swanee.ee.uwa.oz.au (Peter E. Jones)
Subject: Re: PC Emulator on X-Terminals
Organization: Elec Eng, Univ of Western Australia
Date: 23 Dec 92 04:32:01 GMT

alan@metadigm.co.uk (Alan McRae) writes:

>Does anyone have experience of a SPARC based PC Emulator (with
>or without hardware) that will allow PC applications to be run on
>a Sun displaying their (VGA,...) output in an X-Terminal window.

We have (on loan) from Sun an accelerator card with a real 486DX on it
running at 25MHz with some other ASIC for VGA/memory support.  There's
a product to use it called SunPC (actually from Insignia and also available
on DECs & Macs) which can be used as a software only simulator (a 286
that clocks in as an 8MHz on an IPC and a 20MHz on a Sparcs).  We found
that with the sbus accelerator all our DOS software ran, the later
version of the software was robust.  Time to startup the PC is (on an
IPC with 28MB RAM) is about 45 secs, time to start up Windows 3.1
is 30 seconds, time to start up Word for windows is 12 secs, in word
paging down a file 10 times takes about 4-5 secs.  The VGA is 800X600
with 16 colours.  It's VGA is slower than a real 486DX25, about 2/3
of the speed if you go to an IPX.  THe disc speed (using the DOS files
as Unix files rather than the simulated C and D drives is pretty fast.
The Norton tests and others show that the 486 speed is about what you
would expect.  You can also get a 16MHz SX board which is cheaper.  At
the moment there is no physical port to hang on a dongle.  Emulation
of all the other bits of the PC works fine.  DOS people here were quite
impressed with how well behaved it was.  Running the VGA over the net
to a X terminal will give slower performance than writing to the local
frame buffer (I assume).  Of course the cost of the board+s/w is nearly
the same as buying the real thing - but then desk space is expensive!
You do need a lot of RAM in the Sun - we initially tried it with only
16MB and it did a lot of paging and kept the CPU 100% busy.  We gave the
PC 8Mb of RAM and also tried it with 16MB (with no paging in WIndows).

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: toma@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Rory Toma)
Subject: Re: WP5.1 SLOW in OpenWindows 3.0 ? Is it us or a general problem
Organization: Not bloody likely around here!
	<1992Dec29.203238.16650@news.columbia.edu> <684@freedm.UUCP>
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 17:25:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.203238.16650@news.columbia.edu> willem@sparc-1.law.columbia.edu (System Admin) writes:
>
>One of the best things it has going for it is the file transfer accross
>diverse platforms!  There is no other wordprocessor out there which works the
>same under DOS, Mac, Unix, VMS or IBM.  File formats are the same etc!


Doesn't TeX do this? TeX has less bugs, too.
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You want me to upgrade to System what?

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From: rthau@qualix.com (Rick Thau)
Subject: Re: PostScript filter
Reply-To: rthau@qualix.com
Organization: QUALiX Group, Inc.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:55:47 GMT

In article 92Dec21161647@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM, billd@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM (Bill D'Camp) writes:
>I want to hang an Apple LaserWriter off of a SPARC 1.  Can someone
>tell me where to find a PostScript filter which will convert output
>for lpr, either public domain (ftpable) or commercial?
>--
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>      ( )    Aachk! Phft!
>       U     billd@gdstech.grumman.com
>"All opinions expressed herein are my own, they do not represent the
>opinions of my employer."

You may want to look at Transcript, by Adobe Systems. Information on this commercial
product is available through the Qualix mailserver (information below).

- Rick Thau
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versions of products.  If you would like more information on
the mailserver, send an email to qfacts@qualix.com (or,
uunet!qualix!qfacts).  The email body should take the following
form:
	BEGIN
	send help 
	send index
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	Address
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From: s5ugxk@almserv.uucp (Girish Kumtheker)
Subject: WP5.1 SLOW in OpenWindows 3.0 ? Is it us or a general problem
Organization: Fannie Mae
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:39:35 GMT



We are evaluating the WordPerfect version 5.1 under SunOS 4.1.2 / OW3.0
One of the complaints heard has been the performanace, especially
using the tables and cut-and-paste.

I am wondering is it just us or is there a general performance problem
compared to WP5.0.


Please let me know if you have any comments. 


Girish Kumthekar
Unix Technical Services


s5ugxk@fnma.com


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From: hubey@pilot.njin.net (Hubey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Fonts for Sun SPARCs
Keywords: IPA fonts
Date: 29 Dec 92 23:30:38 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.apps
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.



Hello

Does anyone know if there exist any IPA fonts for Sun
Apps such a IslandWRite? IPA stands for International
Phonetics Association and there are some strange looking
symbols there that can't be found on IslandWrite.

Email is appreciated.
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	mark	

   hubey@amiga.montclair.edu         hubey@apollo.montclair.edu
   hubey@pilot.njin.net               ...!rutgers!pilot!hubey    
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: donr@dolphin (Don Robinson)
Subject: Re: No fish from realxfishdb
Reply-To: vlsiphx!donr@asuvax.eas.asu.edu
Organization: VLSI Technology, Inc. (Tempe)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:55:02 GMT

I apologize if the answer to this post has been posted already.  My News feed
was down for a loooooong time and then I never got caught up with the threads
in this group.

In article 15834@bmerh85.bnr.ca, crm182c@bmers245.uucp (Hing-Fai Lee) writes:
->I was just moved to OW3 from OW2. Under $OPENWINHOME/demo there
->is a program called realxfishdb. I ran realxfishdb with command
->line options and also by setting them from fish_props, however
->the only thing I got was the aquarium background with NO fish
->at all. Can someone tell me what is wrong? Thanks in advance.

I have a related question.  I found this same problem, and upon further invest-
igation found the "solution" documented in the AnswerBook CD.  The "solution"
outlined there eludes to an incomplete set of images and the missing pieces
can be found on the 1991 version of the Catalyst CD.  I have looked all through
that CD and I'll be *derned* if I can find any such missing fish!  :^)

Has anyone found these missing fish?

ADVthanksANCE

DER

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From: almquist@wam.umd.edu (Squish)
Subject: Re: WP5.1 SLOW in OpenWindows 3.0 ? Is it us or a general problem
Organization: Human Interface Technology Lab (on vacation)
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 19:12:34 GMT

I administer a site that has (4) Sun 670MP servers and 80 NCD Xterminals.
For some unknown reason we are using WordPerfect 5.1 running XDM/X/OW/etc.
Performance SUCKS!  I can't believe WordPerfect has the balls to sell us
such a PITIFUL piece of software.  SERIOUSLY!  I do mean this.  There has been
lots of talk about returning it and demanding a refund.  Performance is
VERY VERY VERY PITIFUL.  I don't think its cause it can't be done its simply
that WP didn't hire some swift X hackers.  Worst problem is that when you
get to the bottom of the page WP then re-paints the whole window and there
is MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR lag.  IMHO WP5.1 for Unix is the biggest and best kludge 
around.  Any other WP5.1 user out there?  Any one happy?

- Mike Almquist
From: lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Solaris 1.x vi pecularity
Date: 21 Dec 92 03:08:01 GMT
Organization: cic

lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) writes:

>For some reason, vi will not start up when my window is 160 
>or more characters wide.  Is there some inherent problem with this
>size?

There used to be a limitation to 127 or 128 columns, I forget.
This seems to be fixed in release <= 4.1.3.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: pmurphy@nrao.edu (Pat Murphy)
Subject: Re: PostScript filter
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 13:26:27 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.165547.5190@qualix.com>, rthau@qualix.com (Rick
Thau) writes: 

RT> In article 92Dec21161647@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM,
    billd@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM (Bill D'Camp) writes: 

BDC> I want to hang an Apple LaserWriter off of a SPARC 1.  Can someone
BDC> tell me where to find a PostScript filter which will convert output
BDC> for lpr, either public domain (ftpable) or commercial?

RT> You may want to look at Transcript, by Adobe Systems.

If you are just looking for a simple way of taking ascii text and
generating postscript, there are at least three public domain
utilities that will do a reasonable job.  These are:

  *  lwf  (laser writer filter).  Basic, uses courier font, has some
     nice options when used in conjunction with pr for two-up printing.
     Available at ftp.uu.net:/usenet/comp.sources.misc/volume5/lwf/*.

  *  mp  ("postscript pretty printer").  Puts a nice banner on the top
     and bottom of each page.  Recent versions have even nicer two-up
     feature.  Great for UseNet and Mail printing.  Available at
     sun.soe.clarkson.edu:/pub/src/mp/*.

  *  pstext.  Has great font flexibility, built-in support for LW NT,
     NTX, next, HP LJ III/w PS Cart.  Available from
     wuarchive.wustl.edu:/usenet/comp.sources.misc/volume26/pstext/*.

The "available from" sites above were obtained with xarchie.  They may
not be the sites with the latest/greatest versions of these utilities.

Hope this info is useful.  I know there are more utilities of this
nature out there but this summary should suffice as an intro for people
just getting into PS printing.

				- Pat


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: bvaughan@sheps.Princeton.EDU (Barbara Vaughan)
Subject: Re: PostScript filter
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 14:27:01 GMT

In article <BILLD.92Dec21161647@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM> billd@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM (Bill D'Camp) writes:
>I want to hang an Apple LaserWriter off of a SPARC 1.  Can someone
>tell me where to find a PostScript filter which will convert output
>for lpr, either public domain (ftpable) or commercial?

enscript converts ascii text to PostScript and sends it to the printer
(i.e., you don't need to use lpr at all, although you can redirect the
output to a file and then print it.)  However, you should be able to
directly print ascii text using lpr, without converting it to PostScript. 

Barbara Vaughan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: kthompso@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Kevin Thompson)
Subject: Re: Mathematica manual for Sparcs?
Organization: NASA/ARC Information Sciences Division
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:52:50 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.154747.5240@spock.UUCP> jburne@spock.uucp (John Burnette) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.003928.1376@fulcrum.oz.au> paulr@fulcrum.oz.au (Paul Rosham) writes:
>>
>>I think that there is a new version for SUn that includes the Notebook
>>feature.
>
>That would really p*ss me off since I am on software support and have 
>recieved no such update.  (Course, I haven't recieved the update promised to 
>me back in November - but hey, Wolfram is rather famous for their
>vaporware promises.)
>
>There are indeed promises for a Notebook version for the Sun.  I really
>don't believe it is out yet.

I was just told last week that it would be out sometime next year, I think
they said late spring or summer.  So don't be pissed yet.

Kevin Thompson
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: bdecker@e-sys.com (Brian D. Decker)
Subject: OLVWM 3.3
Reply-To: bdecker@e-sys.com
Organization: E-Systems,University Center
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:34:35 GMT
Keywords: OLVWM

Help!!

Background:  Sun IPX sunning SunOS4.1.3, OpenWindows3.0, Olvwm

I have been using olvwm for about one month now and started with patchlevel
2.  I recently compiled patchlevel 3 and updated my machine.  Whenever I try
to run an 'xterm' ( the one supplied with OpenWindows3.0 ) under olvwm patchlevel
3, my olvwm process exits and my xnews server dies, dropping me out to a console.
Has anyone seen this particular problem and found a fix ??

When I compiled olvwm, a definition for MENU_NEWSLOT was not found, so I created
'#define MENU_NEWSLOT 1' in menu.h.  Was I missing something here ?? 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: jburne@spock.uucp (John Burnette)
Subject: Re: Mathematica manual for Sparcs?
Organization: Choate Rosemary Hall
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:47:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.003928.1376@fulcrum.oz.au> paulr@fulcrum.oz.au (Paul Rosham) writes:
>
>I think that there is a new version for SUn that includes the Notebook
>feature.
>
>-PaulR.

That would really p*ss me off since I am on software support and have 
recieved no such update.  (Course, I haven't recieved the update promised to 
me back in November - but hey, Wolfram is rather famous for their
vaporware promises.)

There are indeed promises for a Notebook version for the Sun.  I really don't
believe it is out yet.

-- 
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203-949-0914            // them please send $5 for documentation.           //

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: pgreen@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Philip Green)
Subject: Snapshot
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 16:24:33 GMT

Snapshot V3
Openwindows V3
SunOS 4.1.2

The print options window allows the user to either
produce monochrome or color output by selecting or
deselecting monochrome printer. The problem is 
monochrome is the default selection. How can I 
change the print options window so that monochrome
printer is not selected when the user opens it?

-- 
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NRAO					505.835.7294
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: ywhui@ie.cuhk.hk (Maxi Y W Hui)
Subject: output a compose character from a c-prog on screen
Keywords: compose char
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 07:50:06 GMT

If anybody know how to print a compose character from a c program onto
sun-console, please leave me a message.  Thanks in advance.

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From: young@alw.nih.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: SunNet Manager - glyph states
Date: 22 Dec 1992 15:43:18 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

SunNet Manager seems to want to change the state of a glyph in automatic
management mode every time the network loses an SNMP packet.  (I haven't 
really done a test of this, I can say that SNM will trun a glyph to its
down state and cause a "no answer from" event when I know positively that
the device is up, and never missed a beat.)  This becomes really 
bothersome because SNM won't change the state of the glyph back to its 
original state or to a state which indicates a reboot of the machine in
question when it receives its next SNMP response.  Is this what everyone
else is finding or do I need to RTFM some more?  If my network managment
software doesn't really reflect the state of my network in real-time and 
in fact becomes a burden on the operators, what good is it?


-- 
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	jy
	young@heart.dcrt.nih.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: mrapple@quack.sac.ca.us (Nick Sayer)
Subject: Re: Dumping OW and running X11R5(Was: Speed of Openwin 3)
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
Date: 1 Jan 1993 21:00:25 UTC

Nobody asked me, but IMHO the best setup of all is openwindows from the
CD, with X11R5 Xsun and a load of PCF fonts, and olvwm. It works even better
if you perform the convertfont op on the olcursor font (the result is
slightly different than what MIT ships as it includes the DND cursors).

At work I have used this setup on an IPX. The result is a religious
experience. My usual machine, an ELC, is only slightly less awesome
due to the lack of color.

Just one thing: is it just me or is there a bug when using xv 2.21a
with Xsun -wm? Often when changing images there will be an incorrect
chunk inside the xv display window. I am inclined to believe the bug
is actually in Xsun, but I'm probably wrong. :-)

-- 
Nick Sayer <mrapple@quack.sac.ca.us> | "Don't try this at home, kids. This
N6QQQ @ N0ARY.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM     | should only be done by trained, pro-
+1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'   | fessional idiots."
PGP 2.1 public key on request        |                     -- Plucky Duck
From: davidc@panix.com (David B. Chorlian)
Subject: Scanning Software
Summary: Seeking info on Sun Scanning Software
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 01:30:46 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Keywords: Scanning, Scanners

We are considering buying a scanner and must decide whether to connect
it to a Mac or a Sun.  Sun would offer more flexibility in our 
circumstances.  Thus we would appreciate any reports from users on
scanning software for the Sun.  The principal use of the scanner would
be to scan photographs and/or slides for use in displays on standard
(1150 x 900) monitors.  Optical character recognition and use of
images in publishing is NOT contemplated.  Images are for use in
evoked potential research.  E-mail for further info on use.

Thanks in advance,

David B. Chorlian
Neurodynamics Lab
SUNY/HSCB 
davidc@panix.com

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From: sundar@fiber-one.ai.mit.edu (Sundar Narasimhan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: comparison of CenterLine with GreenHills MULTI needed
Date: 28 Dec 92 21:27:25 GMT
Reply-To: sundar@ai.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: fiber-one.ai.mit.edu

Hi, I'd be grateful if someone who has looked at/used both
CenterLine's C/C++ development environment and GreenHills' MULTI
summarize for me the important differences besides those found
in the glossies. (I've used/am using CenterLine but recently
heard about MULTI).

Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: alan@metadigm.demon.co.uk (Alan McRae)
Subject: Re: WP5.1 SLOW in OpenWindows 3.0 ? Is it u
Reply-To: alan@metadigm.co.uk
Organization: Metadigm Ltd
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 17:24:11 GMT

In article 2923@wam.umd.edu, almquist@wam.umd.edu (Squish) writes:
> I can't believe WordPerfect has the balls to sell us
> such a PITIFUL piece of software.  SERIOUSLY!  I do mean this.

I can only support you in this criticism. The implementors obviously
have no concept of how to use X, running xscope between WP5.1 and an
X-terminal proves this. One of my clients has abandoned the GUI version
as unusable and gone back to running the character version in an xterm.
The GUI version also regularly core dumps.

I too cannot believe why such a significant company can turn out such
appalling software.

Alan McRae                                     | Phone: +44 223 871577
Metadigm Ltd                                   | Fax:   +44 223 873032 (G3)
33 West Green,Barrington,Cambridge,UK,CB2 5RZ  | Email: alan@metadigm.co.uk
"True wisdom must comprise some nonsense as a compromise..." -- Piet Hein
From: m06251@apatitt.und.st.statoil.no (S-E Engbraaten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: tacct.h file - anyone?
Keywords: accounting, tacct
Date: 30 Dec 92 19:21:26 GMT
Reply-To: seen@statoil.no
Organization: Statoil, Norway


  Hello!

  Does anybody have (or know how to get) the file  tacct.h ?
  
  We run the accounting scripts on all our SparcStation 2's -
  dodisk, runacct, monacct etc. They produce monthly reports in
  the directory /var/adm/acct/fiscal, among them tacct07, ...08 etc
  for each month.

  We need to be able to process the information further, management
  needs a per user statistics, not a per machine one, among other
  things.

  The file  acct.h  is available in /usr/include, but nowhere is
  tacct.h  to be found. It is just referred to in the manual -
  "written on the tacct format"...

  Hopefully someone out there have this one file, and can send it
  via email or something.

  We use SunOS 4.1.2 mainly.

  In advance: Thank you very much!

  Regards,
  Stein-Erik
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: jipping@cs.hope.edu (Mike Jipping)
Subject: Re: GNU C/C++ for Sun
Reply-To: jipping@cs.hope.edu
Organization: Hope College
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 11:32:02 GMT

In article 127@news.duc.auburn.edu, rayh@eng.auburn.edu (Ray W. Hiltbrand) writes:
>In article 20991@ims.com, davek@kestrel.ims.com (Dave Koon) writes:
>+>
>+>
>+>You can ftp the latest gnu programs from aeneas.mit.edu  in the /pub/gnu directory
>+>
>+>Ray
>+>---
>+This is probably a FAQ but, where would I find precompiled gnu stuff for
>+Solaris2?
>+
>+Thanks,
>+
>+Dave Koon

If you have the Catalyst CD-Ware Disk Volume 4 from Sun, the compilers are on 
there in the Cygus stuff.  A bit faster than ftp-ing...

      Mike Jipping
      Hope College Department of Computer Science
      jipping@cs.hope.edu  (BITNET: JIPPING@HOPE)

      "It was a marketing coup ... to rename SunOS 4.1.X to 
       Solaris 1.0.  That way, Solaris 2.X could be called 
       an upgrade..."
                                    -- Rob Kolstad, SUG '92


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