From: pjc@mirage.nynexst.com (Peter Colonel)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Dream in a dream...
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:24:02 GMT
Reply-To: pjc@mirage.nynexst.com (Peter Colonel)
Organization: Still trying to get organized...

I would like to preface this by saying that I am *not* a Christian,
or part of any organized religion for that matter. I do not read 
the Bible, or any religious books. I also do not subscribe to 
"dream symbolism" or any other attempt to apply a  scientific 
method to dream interpretation. I *do* have a fairly high degree
of what I would call "prophetic" dreams or what shamans would call
"big dreams", i.e. dreams that forsee some future event, either 
personal or social.

Dream in a dream...I will use D1 to indicate primary dream and D2 to 
indicate secondary dream...

@11:00 pm.

I fall asleep. Nobody is near...wife stays up late to watch tv so
I sleep in another room for a while until I wake up for one reason
or another. 

I am rudely awoken by a slap on the shoulder. Nobody is there. I have
an ill sense of an unwanted presence in the room. I get up. This is 
*not* the first time that has happened...

I go into room with wife. Go back to sleep.

@5:00 am. 

It is the crack of dawn. Last chance at night. I wake up. Go to the 
bathroom. Go back to sleep...

I am dreaming(d1) of laying asleep dreaming(d2)...watching myself sleep. 
In the dream(d1),I start having a dream(d2) of intrusion...just a sense, 
not a physical confrontation. In d2, my spirit is yanked from my body...
I am now dreaming(d1) of laying asleep dreaming(d2) and watching my 
spirit watch my dreaming body. In d2, my spirit is in panic. Something
is about. It is filled with terror. I leave the room and run to the 
front door. 

I freeze a few feet from the door. A tingling sensation runs up my 
spine. Just outside the front door are four entities. Powerfully 
evil is the only way I can describe them. My first instinct is to 
shape shift into a wolf( which I have used before to great 
success..), butsomething stops me. I know I cannot win this time. 
I look at them. 

The closet one is in the appearance of a man. It is dressed very 
regally in red. On its head is a huge crown-like hat. It forms 
an arc about three feet over his head; much like an inverted letter
'u' with the oval part wider than the top. The fringe is decorated in 
gold. It wears a robe of read and gold...it drapes over its whole 
body. In its hand is a scepter with a circular globe on the top.
It leers intently on me. Eyes burning...mouth bearing a sardonic 
smile. Behind it are three other entites...I think they are also
similar to the first. They don't move.

The first projects into my mind that they are the Four Horseman
(although they are not on horses..). The Horseman of the Apocolypse.
(Later when I wake, I rethink this part to believe that they are
 not the Horseman, but Entities unleashing the Horseman, and also
 that the red color of the entities garp is significant..). They
appear before me as a priviledge, it seems. 

I panic. In D2 I fight to wake up. In D1 I see myself laying there,
moaning to my wife that "they are coming...we have to leave". I 
can't come out of D2. I finally wake my wife up with my moaning.
She wakes me out of D2. I tell her that the Horseman are here. 
I tell her to look out the window. We both do. The Horseman are
gone, but the yards and street outside my window are filled with
spirits of chaos...We both panic now. We gather up our children 
and some belongings. I remember a weapon (survival knife) that I 
want to bring. I get it along with a sharpening stone. I am now
with my family. The panic seems to have left. My wife cannot 
remember what we were doing. As I stare at my knife..the dream 
dissolves...I wake up. It is 8:00 am.
***

Well, what do you all think? I have had many more of such a 
strange nature. I have not felt the urge to post before but 
since these are strained times, maybe someone would benefit
from this. By the way, I *do* have my own opinions about 
this...
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