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From: ceci@lysator.liu.se (Cecilia Henningsson)
Subject: Re: Why do cats......
Keywords: cats, litter
Organization: Lysator Academic Computer Society, Linkoping University, Sweden
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:37:08 GMT

jrc@IEDV4.acd.com ( Janis Clark ) writes:

>This is along the same line as the postings recently about why
>cats like to sit on paper.  Why do cats have to use a litter box
>the moment you are done cleaning it?  I have two 4 month old kittens
>(whom I am convinced are monkeys in kitten's clothing) that watch
>anxiously as I scoop the litter box, or replace the litter. As soon
>as I finish, put the rim back on, and step back, they immediately
>get into the box to inspect and use it! I have had several cats over
>the years, and they have all done this.

Would you like to use the bathroom before the person who was there
before you had flushed? :)

--Ceci

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From: pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: dealing with allergy to cats--actual research
Date: 7 Oct 1992 20:42:12 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Distribution: world
Reply-To: pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
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Keywords: journal reference
Originator: pburch@roc.mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu


You probably already know about this, but perhaps not to this
degree of detail:

AB In a house with a cat, furnishings, air-exchange rate, and the cat are
   all thought to influence airborne cat allergen.  We carried out
   experiments using two separate rooms, modifying the environment,
   applying different cleaning techniques, and washing the cat, to
   analyze these sources and to design methods of reducing airborne
   allergen.  Airborne measurements were made with a cascade impactor
   and a two-site monoclonal antibody-based immunometric assay for cat
   allergen Fel d I. Within 30 min of entering a 30-m3 clean room the
   cat itself was found to increase airborne Fel d I by 30 to 90 ng/m3.
   Following serial weekly washing of the cat this increase was reduced
   to less than or equal to 7 ng/m3, with a more marked fall in small
   particles (less than or equal to 2.5 microns diameter) from 9.5 to
   less than or equal to 0.4 ng/m3.  To study the influence of the room
   design we kept the cat in a room of 33 m3 for 20 h/day and modified
   the room.  This room was studied with or without furnishings and with
   air-exchange rates of 0.2 or 2.4 air changes per hour.  Both low
   ventilation rate and furnishings increased the level of Fel d I
   measured 1 h after the cat was removed.  However, the most striking
   finding was that the carpet accumulates cat allergen at approximately
   100 times the level for a polished floor, that is, approximately 100
   micrograms/day Fel d I compared with approximately 0.5 micrograms/day
   Fel d I.(ABSTRACT TRUNCATED AT 250 WORDS).  Author-abstract.
AU de-Blay-F.  Chapman-M-D.  Platts-Mills-T-A.
IN Department of Medicine, University of Virginia, Charlottesville.
TI Airborne cat allergen (Fel d I).  Environmental control with the cat
   in situ

To think that my allergist told me to get rid of my cats. It turned out 
in the end that I wasn't even allergic to them. Fortunately, I didn't 
take her advice.

Paula Burch
pburch@bcm.tmc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Subject: Re: Cat owner once more, a follow-up
Reply-To: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 9 Oct 92 04:44:29 GMT

Jane Gibbs writes:
> proud owner of two 3-year-old black/gray tabbys, male litter-mates,
> that I adopted this past weekend from the Northeast Animal Shelter

Yes!  The joy continues!

-- Jon
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Jon Krueger  jpk@ingres.com
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: HELP:  Need advice about fat kittens
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:34:05 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Oct7.120305.17535@nuscc.nus.sg>, art30358@nusunix1.nus.sg (NG HWAI AUN) writes:
> 
> I have an eight month old and a three month old kitten (both, that is)
> and both of them seem to have paunches!  I seem to have read somewhere
> that overfeeding them with nutritional supplements can cause problems.
> I wonder if this is the case with my kittens.  I have been feeding them
> with Hill's Science Diet Kitten Growth formula dry food, Mirra-Coat
> (which is a supplement for thick fur) as well as Kitzymes (vitamin
> supplement).  I have followed the feeding instructions.  Any one know
> why?

Pot bellies are often signs of worms.  Might check that if you haven't
recently.

Kay Klier
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer)
Subject: Re: Cat in Tree, 3 Days
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:32:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.141531.6935@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tzing@nyx.cs.du.edu (Tom Zing) writes:
>
>A cat is up in this tree and has been there 3 days.

Cats usually come down on their own when they get hungry and/or
thirsty enough.  Try putting food and water near the bottom of the
tree.





--
Vicki Holzhauer, National Center for Atmospheric Research
Boulder, Colorado / / / /  vicki@ncar.ucar.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: levine@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Lenore Levine)
Subject: Re: Manx personalities
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:51:56 GMT

moe@rainier.lib.washington.edu (Joe Shippert) writes:

>According to The Harper's Illustrated Handbook of CATS, manx are supposed to
>be goofy, playful and very owner oriented. My own personal expierence is 
>that this is true but then again I only had one manx (Mary, RIP). She was
>an adorable runt of the litter and would follow me around the house wherever
>I went. She would play at the drop of a milk jug ring and was extremely
>affection to me. She liked other people but really seemed to single me out
>as the person she wanted to be around.

>I envy your opportunity to get a manx. I can't find any manx breeders around
>Seattle. There can be problems with manx, though. The lack of tail is a
>mutation and is really a spinal deformaty. They can have nerve damage in 
>their butts and have problems pooping. get it check by a vet to make sure
>it's okay.

>-joe
>-- 
>moe@u.washington.edu

My sister has a Manx (not with papers -- just a cat with no tail --
naturally.)

One of the sweetest and most intelligent cats I've ever seen. This
precious cat is really special.

Also very small...And I know a neighborhood cat with half a tail
that's the size of a kitten, even though it's full grown.

I wonder if this is a trend.

Lenore Levine
From: moose@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (66025000)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Spanky my spunky kitty
Date: 10 Oct 92 07:21:43 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


When my kitty got neutered the vet told me he would probably sleep for the
rest of the night.  Not my Spanky though....he was up and running after a
couple of hours!  Not even neutering has made my cat slow down.  He's as
hyper as ever.

My current favorite pasttime is picking my cat's fleas one by one with
a tweezer!  It's such a rush to squeeze the living daylights out of those
little boogers!
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: pauls@tellabs.com (Paul Silver)
Subject: Re: how much to feed
Organization: Tellabs, Lisle,IL
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:36:17 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.201353.22629@crd.ge.com> feldman@flash.crd.ge.com (Sandra F Feldman) writes:
>Lhuffman states that his cat got blood in the stool from science diet lite.
>Questions for you:  was this cured by switching to a different food?  What did
>you switch to?  We have a cat who has recurring blood problems, has been
>dewormed and deparasited to death, and the vet can't figure out what the problem
>is.  (We've considered taking him to the clinic at Cornell, but it is 3 hours
>away and it seems that as long as the cat is in no pain and is not ill that
>any more examination would be overly invasive.)
>
>Thanks,
>  Sandy

*---------*

I would suggest taking the cat to the vet/clinic if there is blood in the stool,
regardless of whether the cat seems to be in pain or not.  It could be
colitis, or it could be something else, like cancer.

-- 
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From: sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu (Maven o'Mirth)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Head butting (was Why Do Cats Lick Humans?)
Date: 12 Oct 92 05:06:13 GMT
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

In article <44030002@hpspkla.spk.hp.com> cicarell@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Collen Cicarell) writes:
>Its a fun game as long as you're awake.  Spot has carried it one step further
>though, and thinks that its funny to watch me twitch my nose if she butts her
>head into my face while I'm sleeping.  Seems like she sleeps 23 1/2 hours out
>of the day, but for that other 1/2 hour, usually somewhere between 2 and 3 A.M.,
>she gets REALLY friendly.  She'll rub her face on mine, walk around on me, 
>purrrrrrr, bat at my face, and eat my hair.  I'm learning to put up with it,
>but I sure wish she'd wait until I was already awake.  The other cat, Steve,
>won't do any of this stuff, at least while I'm sleeping.  I hope your cat 
>doesn't figure out how much fun it can be while you're asleep!
>
>Colleen

Ohhhh, but this is *just* like Hemingway. :).  He'll sleep with me until
about 6am, at which point he decides it is time to get up (he always uses
his "food, now!" meow, too, which is weird since he only gets canned food
at night), and then he starts in on the purring/headbutting/hair-attacking
ritual.  Since he taught me to play fetch ( ;) ) he has also figured out
that he can bring his crumpled-up ball of paper and "head-butt" me with
it, so not only am I being bugged by the little critter, but I'm getting a
faceful of wadded up typing paper at 6am.  This morning, for the first
time, it got to be too much, and Hemingway spent two hours in the
kitchen. The other game he taught me to play is "blanket monster" (hand
under two or three layers of blanket becomes excellent attack target), but
he has recently decided that the big, non-moving, sleepy lump under the
blankets is actually a *big* blanket monster, and lots of fun to attack
... that blanket monster is soooo ticklish, geez....

:)

Gotta love 'em.

--
Sheryl Stover				|  How passing fair is youth,
*>sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu<*		|  Forever fleeting away;
and Hemingway, feline philosopher	|  Who happy would be, let him be;
Watch this .sig for news of the		|  Of tomorrow, who can say?
upcoming album from Seattle's 		|	-Lorenzo de'Medici
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From: jscandur@bbn.com (John Scandurra)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Kitten with a Fat Lip
Date: 8 Oct 1992 07:14:30 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

I missed the original posting, but I now have a cat with a fat bottom lip.
This is the third time the lip has swollen.  Each time it has improved by
itself, but I took the cat to the vet anyway.  The vet diagnosed the swelling
as a "rodent ulcer" and prescribed Ovaban.
From: nlp@pacvax.pacersoft.com (Nancy Pilsch)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Why do cats......
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:28:35 GMT
Followup-To: rec.pets.cats
Organization: Pacer Software, Inc.

My cats do this too, but in "pecking order".  Hobbes, the dominant cat,
goes first while Calvin patiently waits.  The first (and only) time Cal
tried to go first, he got his ears boxed. 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: cs202144@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs202144)
Subject: Re: Why Do Cats Lick Humans?
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:57:23 GMT

My cat only licks and nibbles my fingers when I am in my bed. Even if I just
showered my cat will do this, so I doubt if the cat thinks she is helping
any. Probably just affection or playfulness?

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: Fleas at the vet
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 23:56:49 GMT

Uh, why don't you just change vets?  I would put up with this for about 5
seconds (just long enough to count to 10), then find another vet.
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG                  erc@apple.com                     801/538-0177
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jpotter@stsci.edu (Jeffrey J. Potter)
Subject: Re: Manx personalities
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 07:17:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.194352.17546@u.washington.edu>, moe@rainier.lib.washington.edu (Joe Shippert) writes:
> 
> According to The Harper's Illustrated Handbook of CATS, manx are supposed to
> be goofy, playful and very owner oriented. My own personal expierence is 
> that this is true but then again I only had one manx (Mary, RIP). She was
> an adorable runt of the litter and would follow me around the house wherever
> I went. She would play at the drop of a milk jug ring and was extremely
> affection to me. She liked other people but really seemed to single me out
> as the person she wanted to be around.
> 
> I envy your opportunity to get a manx. I can't find any manx breeders around
> Seattle. There can be problems with manx, though. The lack of tail is a
> mutation and is really a spinal deformaty. They can have nerve damage in 
> their butts and have problems pooping. get it check by a vet to make sure
> it's okay.
> 
> -joe
> -- 
> ==============================================================================
> moe@u.washington.edu
> Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.
> 

This very true of my 4 yr old "Mr. Butz".  He is also quite large.  He weighs
in at 22 lbs and is solid as a rock.  Everyone used to think that he was a 
neat cat without a tail 2 years ago.  Now they can't get over how big he is.

The bit about the milk jug ring is funny!  I think that a jug ring has to be
his favorite toy.  And I thought that I had the only cat in the world that 
played with milk jug rings.  :)

GET THE MANX!  YOU WILL LOVE HIM! 

Jeff

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From: sscott@wtcp.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Sandie Scott)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Help Needed to Save Cat's Life
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:37:52 GMT
Reply-To: sscott@wtcp.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Sandie Scott)
Distribution: usa
Organization: IRM Consulting - Dayton, OH

I used to think that Scotia was a dirty cat and would never be trained away
from using our new couch.  Then one day I placed her litter box on the couch. 
To my surprise, she used it.  I left it there for a couple days, and then I
moved it to the floor.  She followed it.  And each day when I moved it towards
its end destination, she continued to follow and use it.  We never had trouble
with her again.  Also, I hope you are aware that cats are very festideous and
require clean litter.  I change ours on a daily basis.  I'm glad you're
seeking advice...it means you're not giving up on her.  Good luck.
-- 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: sbiles@nmsu.edu (Susannah E Biles)
Subject: -big- cats
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Distribution: rec.pets.cats
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 00:40:01 GMT


Hi there..
this is a message from my lilac point himalayan whom PEOPLE seem to
think is overweight...

"I am not fat...just fluffy!"

:-)

Susan and Agustus
From: sbiles@nmsu.edu (Susannah E Biles)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: window-cat door
Date: 11 Oct 92 00:59:51 GMT
Distribution: rec.pets.cats
Organization: NMSU Computer Science


I tried to email the person who mentioned the cat door that was put in
a window, but it bounced back, so i decided to post.
Can that person, or anyone who knows, please post a complete
description of how to build a cat door in the window? One that is
removable, if possible. Since I live in an apartment, I don't think my
landlord would approve me putting in a cat door in the door :)
Thanks for any information!
Susan
sbiles@dante.nmsu.edu
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Dog fleas != cat fleas?
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:00:41 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

maverick@topgun.b29.ingr.com (Mike Sorrelle) writes:
> rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner) writes:
> |> 
> |> I think dog fleas and cat fleas are different, so you don't need to worry
> 
> Um, I'm no expert in these matters, but I thought "fleas = fleas = fleas".
> The fleas, after all, are merely sucking blood, and they probably don't
> care whether it comes from a cat, dog, or other similarly furry critter.
> 
> Perhaps some entomologist out there can answer this one?

Well, you're both sorta right.  There are LOTS of different fleas out
there (you might recall the night Johnny Carson had a flea expert from
Iowa State on), and they generally prefer to stay with their preferred
host.  But if dog fleas are short of dogs to bite, they'll gnarr on your
cat (or you!), and vice-versa with cat-fleas.*

Cat fleas are _Ctenocephalides felis_ and dog fleas are _C. canis_.

If you're getting flea bites, it definitely means the flea population has
hit the size where some of them are not finding suitable lunches on your
pet.  

*well, there may be worse insect problems... one of our grad students
was involved in a "who can grow the worst-looking beard" contest
(losers to buy the winner a beer).  He also is working on a mammology
project... He decided to shave after one of his profs said "There's
something moving on your face."  Checked the mirror and found a mouse
fur mite...

Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Subject: Re: Older cat/How long till she comes around?
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 21:24:15 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In rec.pets.cats, imkg2726@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ilana M. Kingsley) writes:
>
> I've had my newly adopted cat (who is 7 yrs old) for one month, and she still
> is very anit-social.  We were told, from the humane soc., that she gets along 
> with dogs, but this is not true.  She hisses at the pooch, but that is not the 
> worst part.  She does not like affection-- does not like to be held.  She 
> refuses to enter our bedroom-- as if she is so scared that the room is 
> haunted.  She only comes out when she wants to eat and will tolerate getting
> petted at this time, otherwise she hides away wherever she can go.  We tried 
> letting her outside, but she is scared to go out.  If she doesn't shape up soon
> we may have to give her up.  I'd like to keep her though.  How long does it
> take until an older cat warms up?  I will tolerate her attitude if I knew that
> eventually she will be affectionate-- but she is disinterested in making
> friends.  What can I do to help her out??
> 
>    --Ilana Kingsley Newby
>

We have a cat named Illyra that has been anti-social from day one (we
affectionatly call her the bitch cat from hell).  We got her when she was
about a year old from someone who said they found her in a box in a field
with fur matted and wet.  Since then we've come to suspect she was very
abused (she seems to have a deformity on a rear hip like it was broken).
She tolerates us, and we always try and treat her gently, but she still
will not come near us of her own free will (generally).  Luckily, we have
three other cats whom she adores and "hangs out" with, so she isn't alone
all the time.  Meanwhile, we love her in the best way we can (and as much
as she will let us).  It takes a lot of patience sometimes, but its worth
the good feeling knowing she has a good home.  (Though it should be fun
to give Miss Fur-n-claws a flea bath next week).

"All sunshine makes a desert." -- Arabian Proverb
--Brad
From: john.hayden@analog.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Why do cats......
Date: 9 Oct 92 22:21:50 GMT
Organization: Analog Devices, Inc.
Originator: john@atlas

In article <1992Oct8.193327.200475@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> mas5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MICHELLE A. M. SZENA) writes:
>In article <1992Oct5.194758.20444@acd4.acd.com>, jrc@IEDV4.acd.com ( Janis Clark
> ) writes:
>>			...	   Why do cats have to use a litter box
>>the moment you are done cleaning it?  ...

>.....maybe this is Merlin's way of showing mommy what a good boy he is by
>using the box.  ...

My two cats both do this and I figured these cats get the urge
because Mom or Dad is pawing up the litter and showing them where to go.

But then, cats are so inherently strange we'll never figure it out.

-j


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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: Tasha catches first mouse, owners concerned :-)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:44:25 GMT

Daniel Smith (dansmith@Autodesk.COM) wrote:

: 	Through all of this, her older brother (15 months) Rudolph hasn't
: shown the slightest interest!  He just cares about jumping into the bathtub
: to get his water from the faucet...what a weirdo.

Are you sure that Rudolph doesn't have diabetes?  Always being thirsty is a
symptom of feline diabetes.  I know ... I lost a friend that way... :(
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG                  erc@apple.com                     801/538-0177
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"