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From: mminnick@broca.next.com (Mike Minnick)
Newsgroups: comp.music,rec.music.synth
Subject: FOR SALE: Samplers and more UPDATE
Date: 11 Jan 93 22:00:37 GMT
Followup-To: comp.music

FOR SALE ---UPDATE---

Sequential Studio 440 - *** SOLD ***
Sequential Six-Trak Model 610  - *** SOLD ***
Roland MPU-401 MIDI interface  - *** SOLD ***
Sequential Prophet-3000 - *** NO LONGER FOR SALE ***

STILL AVAILABLE:

Sequential TOM drum machine with manual:
    Eight built-in percussion sounds.
    Sound cartridge connector.
    Real-time and single step sequencer entry.
    Stereo output (sounds can be panned).
    Footswitch input.
    Syncs to MIDI clocks.
    "Human Factor" setting (not bad for 1985!)
    ***REDUCED TO $80.

Computer Stuff:

Speech Plus CALL TEXT 5000 Speech Synthesis board for IBM PC/XT/AT:
    Accepts English ASCII text
    Accepts special phoneme and other control characters
    Amp/headphone output
    12-bit DAC
    Telephone interface with ring and touch tone detection
    Serial port
    Development software library and manual included
    All this for $50.

EPSON LQ 510 24-pin dot matrix printer, with manual.  $150.

IBM PC (original), 540KB, 20 MB hard disk, floppy, EGA card, mono monitor,
Logitec Bus Mouse, DOS 3.0, Turbo C and other software.
With manuals.  $250.

Avatex 1200hc, 1200 baud modem with manual.  $30.

Add shipping to all prices.

Mike Minnick
email: mike_minnick@next.com
(Redwood City, CA)
day: (415) 780-4687
evening: (408) 956-1532
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: Hugo_Jackson@mindlink.bc.ca (Hugo Jackson)
Subject: Any MAC-MIDI Source Code????
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 01:48:22 GMT

Hoping that somewhere out there (FTP or otherwise) there is some code already
written for MAC MIDI.

Mainly looking for the "preferred" method of driving the serial port.

Can anyone help?

Thanks for listening.


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From: etmjaro@crosby.ericsson.se (Jan Rooijackers)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Where are .MID files
Date: 4 Jan 93 07:25:41 GMT
Reply-To: etmjaro@crosby.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Telecommunication Rijen (ETM)

Hi,
Where can I find this kind of files.

Regards Jan 
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: chuckm@canada.hp.com (Chuck Munro)
Subject: Re: Is anyone running serious MIDI on OS/2?
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:56:47 GMT
Organization: HP Panacom Div Waterloo ON Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Interesting question!   I'd like to expand that to include Windows NT.

I'm currently playing with NT, but don't know of any MIDI software for
it.  I haven't tried any of my Win3.1 software (Band-in-a-Box, Cakewalk)
because I'm totally new to MIDI as of this week, and am still trying to
figure all this software out.   :-)    The way Windows NT is designed,
much MIDI windows software will have to have its I/O routines reworked,
since direct access to the hardware is not permitted.

NT's potential for high MIDI performance is intriguing, since it doesn't
have all that DOS baggage running underneath (thank heavens!).   NT _is_
a resource hog, though.


Chuck.
From: gingeric9178@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Re: Question: SB .VOC files for samples in MODsdir
Date: 5 Jan 93 10:14:25 -0600
Distribution: inet
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1i88alINNt99@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, br326@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Raphael Pungin) writes:
> 
> In a previous article, dessel@remus.rutgers.edu (Metaphysical Wonder) says:
> 
>>Does ANYONE know how to use Soundblaster Pro .VOC files as samples in MOD files that I create using like ModEdit?
>>
>>If not, does anyone know an efficient way to convert the .VOC files to the Amiga (?) format required of a MOD sample?
>>
>>
>>Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!
>>
>>		-- Jason Dessel
>>
>>Please mail responses (as opposed to posting here) to:
>>
>>			dessel@remus.rutgers.edu  or dessel@gandalf.rutgers.edu
>>
>>Thanks again!
>>
> 
> Please post to the net as well as to the author above. Looks like question
> of general interest.
> -- 
OK I will,
   I (when I used to make MODS) would use a program called SCOPTRAX to convert
VOCs to Amiga files.  Just sample you VOC, edit it as necessary, load it into
SCOPTRAX, amigafy it and save it as a RAW file with a SAM extention.  It will
then be ready to be used in MODEDIT.  Good luck.

RObert Williams
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk (Nick Rothwell)
X-Sender:  (Unverified)
Subject: Re: Looking for System Recommendations
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:29:21 +0000

>3. You need a GM (general midi) sound module that will capture
>all the generic instruments and drum sounds.

Oh. I thought he wanted to do *electronic* music, not canned sounds.

>It is a good idea to have at least one GM sound module in your setup.
>A lot of canned MIDI files can be purchased with GM sound arrangements.

I think it's a rotten idea. To be more constructive: for MIDI-based
electronic music, look into the more versatile synthesisers on the market
(K2000, Wavestation A/D, MicroWave, TG77, etc.) For "traditional"
electronic music, look into something with good D/A which can run csound.
(NeXT? Indigo?)

General MIDI is useless for electronic music.

>Band-in-a-box is an excellent tool for adding accompanyment tracks.
>All you need to do is specify the chords for your music.  Dont know
>the Chords?  No problem.  Just buy a 'fake book'.  They show you
>the melody line with the chord changes.

Pass me that bucket... :-#

What you've suggested (in a reasonably well-informed manner) is basically a
MIDI-based system for ordinary, mainstream music, and is of no use for
electronic music (in the usual senses of the word) or tonal
experimentation.

                      Nick Rothwell  |  "Say, how many contemporary dancers
   CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance  |     are there in this bar?"
        cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk  |  "Dunno; count the Dr. Martens
        cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk  |     and divide by two..."
From: smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith)
Subject: Re: MIDI cards
Organization: Gagging Sloth Records
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 11:57:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.004823.11439@julian.uwo.ca>, wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith) writes:
|> In article <Jan05.224636.36025@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> millerje@CS.ColoState.EDU (Jeff Miller) writes:
|> >The best advice I can give you would be to go for a MPU401 
|> >compatible.  This way you won't be limited when it comes to support (many
|> >shareware/freeware MIDI sw supports nly the MPU 401 standard)
|> 
|> What is "MPU 401" compatability?
|> MIDI is a serial data transfer of 31.5 kbaud.  What "magic" does an MPU
|> 401 card do? Does it have a buffer? Does it have intelligence?  Has
|> anyone ever programmed it at a low level?  How many registers does it have?

It can run in dumb mode, or it can run in "smart" mode. I don't know much
about programming it, personally, but I do know that the smart mode was needed
back in the days of slow computers, and now it's not really necessary if you've
got a decently quick machine. However, the point about software availability
is a good one.

|> 
|> Are we talking about a card that has half the complexity and functionality
|> of an IDE hard/floppy controller, but at 5 times the price?
|> 
|> Is there a Popular Electronics article on building your own MPU-401 card?

Not that I've seen.  They did have an article on a kit by PAiA to make a dump
UART-based MIDI card, however they didn't have any Windows compatible drivers
at the time, so I got my money back and paid $80 (as opposed to about $60) for
a basic Music Quest PCMIDI card. It's not that expensive, and works well.

jds

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Newsgroups: comp.music
From: stown@cpd.Tandem.COM (Scott Townsend)
Subject: WHERE CAN I GET MIDI FILES			
 
Keywords: MIDI MUSIC
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Cupertino CA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:21:02 GMT

I have a collection of about 20 midi files which I got
when I bought my sound board ( Pro Audio Spectrum 16 ).

I have acquired a midi jukebox software package for windows and
am able to play any subset of the midi files that I have. This
application runs under windows and provides excellent background 
music while I am working at my machine.

I would like to obtain more midi files. I have looked on bulletin boards
and in usenet, but I have not been able to find any either for sale or
for no cost. If you know of a source for obtaining/purchasing midi files,
I would very much like to hear from you. Any worthwhile information that 
I receive I will share with the net.

Thanks,

Scott


Newsgroups: comp.music
From: jbaxter@leland.Stanford.EDU (Joel Kent Baxter)
Subject: Re: Where can I get Apple's MIDI Manager?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 03:23:38 GMT

In article <19450@mindlink.bc.ca> Hugo_Jackson@mindlink.bc.ca (Hugo Jackson) writes:
>Does anyone have any info on where I can get Apple's Midi manager, is it
>something I have to buy, or is it available via FTP somewhere?
>
>Thanks for listening.
>
>
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I second the question. :)


					JB

Newsgroups: comp.music
From: sci40027@nusunix1.nus.sg (HO CHOO LIANG)
Subject: Question on SYS-EX ...
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:26:51 GMT

Hi! I've been using my MIDI setup for recording
minus-one music for about 3-4 yrs now. One thing
I still couldn't figure out is the use of SYS-EX
data. My MIDI setup consist of a 386-33 with a
PC-MIDI card (MPU401 compat.), a Roland D10 and a
Yamaha TG33. I'm using CalkwalkPro.
What I'll like to know is the use of SYS-EX data,
like what is it use for, what do I need to find out
before I can use it, etc etc.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Choo Liang
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: iani@ai.rcast.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Zannos Iannis)
Subject: Re: just-tuned synth
Organization: RCAST, Univ. of Tokyo, Japan
	<IANI.93Jan7124703@gate.ai.rcast.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
	<1993Jan7.044402.29115@netcom.com> <86312@ut-emx.uucp>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 06:33:54 GMT


>I'm using MAX and a K2000. I had tried using poly key pressure as a pitch
>modulator, however I had problems with chirping as the note quickly adjusted
>from equal to just tuning. Even though the poly key message was sent 

Well, it seems we have the same experience on that - its not just for
the Korg that poly pressure doesn't work well, but for other synths as
well.  Would be interested to know how McNamarra does his fine tuning.

>What I use now which works great, but probably isn't
>possible on other synths is to send a MIDI channel controller immediately
>before the note on and use the sample and hold feature of the K2000's 
>function generators to sample the controller's value and hold it for the
>duration of that note. This allows me to have polyphonic just tuning on
>a single MIDI channel. 

It's a pity other MIDI players (like Proteus) dont have the sample and
hold feature.  Being channel-bound is a major obstacle in the tuning -
expressive performance task.

>In my own work I have been using a 72 equal note per octave tuning, 
>however I meet each week with Ellen Fullman who has built an instrument
>of 108 longitudinally vibrating strings over 80 feet long which are excited
>by rosin coated fingers and is tuned to a set of 42 just pitches. In fact,

72 is the number chosen in modern Greek Music Theory because it
divides the tone into 12, so you can use 1/2, 1/3 and 1/4 of the tone.
I am not sure of its fitting into just tuning requirements though
(pure fifths thirds, sevenths).  Pure fifths and thirds are well
attained by the 53 division; pure fifths, thirds and sevenths by 171.
42 is also interesting: Ekrem Karadeniz used 41 tones in his work on
Turkish Music (have to check the number).  Does Ellen Fullman obtain
them from stacking 42 pure fifths/fourths?

Ioannis Zannos.
From: mtressle@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Soma Holiday)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Windows API midi functions?
Date: 10 Jan 93 02:11:11 GMT
Distribution: comp.multimedia, comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc, comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer, comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard, rec.music.makers
Organization: CS Dept, Ball St U, Muncie, Indiana



I am writing a small patch editor for windows and geared towards the Roland 
SCC-1 and SC-55 SoundCanvas devices.

I cannot find any info on the windows API function midiOutLongMsg() or 
some such thing.  Any information on getting a few bytes OUT my midi port
would be much appreciated.

Can anyone name a good refernce manual or toolkit which makes standard 
windows midi functions clear? (actually one that talks about them at ANY 
length would be nice!)



mike
mtressle@bsu-cs.bsu.edu
mtressle@lovelace.bsu.edu
00MBTRESSLER@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu

_I_ want a piece of MEAT!

Newsgroups: comp.music,rec.music.synth,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith)
Subject: Re: MIDI cards
Organization: The John P. Robarts Research Institute, London, Ontario
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 00:48:23 GMT

In article <Jan05.224636.36025@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> millerje@CS.ColoState.EDU (Jeff Miller) writes:
>The best advice I can give you would be to go for a MPU401 
>compatible.  This way you won't be limited when it comes to support (many
>shareware/freeware MIDI sw supports nly the MPU 401 standard)

What is "MPU 401" compatability?
MIDI is a serial data transfer of 31.5 kbaud.  What "magic" does an MPU
401 card do? Does it have a buffer? Does it have intelligence?  Has
anyone ever programmed it at a low level?  How many registers does it have?

Are we talking about a card that has half the complexity and functionality
of an IDE hard/floppy controller, but at 5 times the price?

Is there a Popular Electronics article on building your own MPU-401 card?
From: frankc@tgf.tc.faa.gov (Frank Coffman)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Re: How to Xfer GP-16 Patches with MIDI
Date: 7 Jan 1993 14:49:21 GMT
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Pomona, NJ	
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: offserv2.faa.gov

mlec@bnr.ca (Marc Leclair) writes:


>I would like to know how I could transfer my patchs from my
>Roland GP-16 multi-effects for guitar module to my old IBM XT 
>clone computer. The GP-16 is MIDI controlable.

>What software would I need,
>                   - to transfer (to and from),?
>                   - to edit the patch on the XT (if possible)?

A sequencer or librarian program capable of SYSEX up/downloading for
transfering data.  Editing could be done crudely with a hex editor.
GP-16 Editor programs are available commercially & shareware, I believe.

>What hardware would I need? I do have serial/parallel ports on my XT.

A MIDI interface card.

A recomendation - I use Cakewalk & a Music Quest PC MIDI card for GP-16
SYSEX dumps. 

 
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From: mtressle@bsu-cs.bsu.edu ( Eat Me.)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Re: SoundBlaster Pro and MIDI
Date: 8 Jan 93 06:29:24 GMT
Organization: CS Dept, Ball St U, Muncie, Indiana

kirkby@bandar.dg.oz (Chris Kirkby) writes:
> Can anyone please tell me whether the SB is a resonable board to use
> with some sequencing software a keyboard various sound modules.
> Can the sequencer use the FM synthesis portion of the SB to play sounds.
> In a nutshell could it be used for a mini studio ?
> Thanks
> Chris
> 
	Hmmm. Let's see if I can answer what you want.  I don't own a 
SoundBlaster, rather an ATI Stereo FX card, which is SB compatible, so I'm
sure this will apply. By FM synthesis, You're talking abut the built in
sounds on the card? Yes, I know Cakewalk for Windows can access these sounds
right alongside Sounds from a different midi device. However, the sounds are
limited and if this is the only "instrument" you're going to use, you might 
be disappointed.

	As for using the Sound cards as "Samplers", you can do that too.
Again, Cakewalk for Windows allows you to embed Wave files into your
works, which then play your sample right on beat. It's played through
the card, of course. I have had some pretty good results using the card to
play samples. However, you can only play one sample at a time.

> -- 
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> Data General			| ACSnet:    kirkby@dgaust.dg.oz.au
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mike
mtressle@bsu-cs.bsu.edu
mtressle@lovelace.bsu.edu
00MBTRESSLER@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu

_I_ want a piece of MEAT!
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: mlec@bnr.ca (Marc Leclair)
Subject: How to Xfer GP-16 Patches with MIDI 
Followup-To: comp.music
Reply-To: mlec@bnr.ca (Marc Leclair)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 13:50:35 GMT

Hi all,		

       I have a question for you all....

I would like to know how I could transfer my patchs from my
Roland GP-16 multi-effects for guitar module to my old IBM XT 
clone computer. The GP-16 is MIDI controlable.

What software would I need,
                   - to transfer (to and from),?
                   - to edit the patch on the XT (if possible)?

What hardware would I need? I do have serial/parallel ports on my XT.

       I would appreciate any input on the above questions and on
any general MIDI information. Unfortunally I don't know much about
MIDI but probably most of what I need to know to complete the transfer I can get from my GP-16 manual.
The important info I need is mostly on the XT side.

       I also have limited access to a take home Mac. If you have
anything for Macs that could always be an alternative.

Thx,

Marc Leclair.	
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: downs@helios.nevada.edu (Lamont Downs)
Subject: Sound Commander Pro?
Summary: Has anyone had experience with the Sound Commander Pro board?
Keywords: sound boards
Organization: UNLV
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 02:18:47 GMT

Has anyone had any experience with the "Sound Commander Pro" sound board, 
supposedly Sound Blaster Pro Basic compatible and sold as part of a 
multimedia kit marketed by Sun Moon Star of San Jose, Calif.? It's an 
attractively priced package (Sony CD-Rom, sound card and CD-Rom software 
for $399 via Sam's Club). I'd like to use the sound card with PC Finale 2.2, 
which now supports Win 3.1's multimedia extensions, but would appreciate 
hearing from anyone whose had actual experience using this board. Any info 
would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Lamont Downs
downs@helios.nevada.edu
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From: doug@penny.telcom.arizona.edu (Doug Wellington USGS)
Newsgroups: comp.music,rec.music.makers,rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Orpheus sequencer location?
Keywords: PC sequencer
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:38:00 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona Telecommunications
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I read in vol 9, number 1 of the IMA bulletin that there is another PC
shareware sequencer called Orpheus.  It has recently been upgraded to
version 2.0.  Does anyone know if it is available for FTP?  Does anyone
have a copy of it?

Thanks,
-Doug
Newsgroups: comp.music,rec.music.synth,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: boris@athena.eng.hou.compaq.com (Boris Litinsky)
Subject: MIDI cards
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:47:11 GMT

I am new to the world of MIDI and want to purchase a MIDI card to
connect to a digital piano.
Has anyone had any experience with the MusicQuest and/or Passport
MIDI cards? What problems or things should I look out for? Does most
software support them without any problems?
I already have a SoundBlaster and am looking for something inexpensive -
not a PAS16 or SoundBlaster Pro.

Thanks a lot.

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Newsgroups: comp.music
From: birkelan@atelm.Berkeley.EDU (Joel Birkeland)
Subject: Re: Casey Kasem wrote and boy is he pissed...
Reply-To: birkelan@atelm.Berkeley.EDU (Joel Birkeland)
Organization: SPS
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:06:02 GMT

Seems to me that Mr. Kasem is 100% in the right on this one.

Irrespective of the legal issue, I have always felt that real
musicians make their own music, rather than steal it from others.

Joel Birkeland
birkelan@ash.sps.mot.com
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Interfacing Tascam DA-88 with a NeXT
Date: 7 Jan 1993 22:21:45 -0800
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: spock.dis.cccd.edu

I'm sold on the DA-88 but don't want to have to buy another set of
D/A A/D converters.  Has anyone figured out if the DA-88's digital
data can be ported easily over to the NeXT without an aes/ebu interface.
I am assuming that all eight tracks will be bounced to two stereo tracks
and that those tracks will be the ones ported to the NeXT.  Also,
Peavey has an interesting slider and fly-wheel controller out.  Are 
there any others controllers other than JL-Coopers out there?


maurices
From: srchbgm@chv.lincoln.cri.nz
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Finale problems on IBM PC.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 20:17:23 GMT
Organization: Canty Agriculture & Science Centre
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: chv.lincoln.cri.nz

A Friend of mine is a FINALE user on the IBM PC computer range.
She has been having troubles recently with Cluster and FAT errors.
Have any other FINALE users been plagued with these problems. If so
what is the fix?

Bruce Muschamp. Crop and Food Research SRCHBGM@CHV.LINCOLN.CRI.NZ

Newsgroups: comp.music,rec.music.synth
From: tak@core.rose.hp.com (Tom Keaveny)
Subject: Re: Play It By Ear
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:49:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: A division to be named later
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

I purchased Play It By Ear for my wife as a birthday present last year.
I'd recommend using it with a sound card/midi sound module, as the use
of the IBM speaker is extremely lacking.

The exercises were fairly challenging, and their support has been excellent.
The higher degrees of difficulty are more complex than my Aurul Skills classes
in college!...

I'd suggest going to a well-stocked local electronic music dealer that
deals in computer software as well, and get a demo, in any case.
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