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From: urcat@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eilidh Swan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Music of Enya, Clannad etc
Date: 1 Jan 93 17:10:50 GMT

In <Bzxryr.H4n@dcs.ed.ac.uk> tk@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Tommy Kelly) writes:

>Anyone care to comment on the music of Enya and Clannad?

Hhmmm....seems to me a bit of this discussion went by here in the
last few months, but sure, I'm game.

For her personal sound, there's just no one else like Enya.  Many
people were interested in "who sounds like Enya in CCM?" ... but
really if you want to hear her, then go ahead.  I'm a Celtic-lover,
and Scottish descent personally, so her music appeals to me on many
levels.  And as a vocalist -- I can appreciate the style she's developed
as well.

What else did you want us to say?

Eilidh Swan
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From: 6197110@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Need words to "He touched me"
Date: 22 Dec 92 19:56:18 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.

I don't know if anyone sent you the words yet or not, so here they are.
(In the right order, I might add :) )

Shackled by a heavy burden
'Neath a load of guilt and shame
Then the hand of Jesus touched me
And now I am no longer the same.

Chorus:
He touched me, oh He touched me
And oh the joy that floods my soul
Something happened, and now I know,
He touched me and made me whole.

Since I met this blessed Savior
Since He cleansed and made me whole
I will never cease to praise Him
I'll shout it while eternity rolls.


I hope this is the one you're talking about.

Ramona
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: storrs@eos.ncsu.edu (JERRY STORRS)
Subject: Re: Long Haired Man
Originator: storrs@c20002-121rd.che.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: storrs@eos.ncsu.edu (JERRY STORRS)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:50:48 GMT


In article <1992Dec30.172950.25181@odin.corp.sgi.com>, labson@borneo.corp.sgi.com writes:

|>I have a very long hair and some of my relatives & friends condemned it,
|>some don't, and some no comments....I like my hair and I'm not going to
|>cut it for anything.....Is that a bad attitude????Is it wrong to like
|>your hair....
|>
|>Any suggestions ??? comments ??? I played in our church band, and I love
|>to play & use my talent for the Lord but I'm thinking of quitting
|>because I might offend some people when they see me in front with my
|>long hair...(don't want to be a stumbling block to them)......but don't
|>want to cut my hair either.... 
|>
|>
Joel,
	Wear your hair the way you want.  God cares about how you adorn your
soul, not your head.  If some people have a problem with this, that's a hurdle
THEY need to cross.  Having had this same problem when I was in my teens, I 
speak from experience.  I will point out to you the same thing I pointed out
to a couple of congregations/preachers as I left their presence. 
	God told us to not judge.  Jesus told us to love one another.
	Follow the commandment(s) and you will be happy.  If how you 
	wear your hair or how you dress for church really makes a 
	difference, that is between you and God.  No one else. (period)

	The secret, Joel, is to present your point in a loving manner.  Don't
attack them with it.  (As soon as I have retired from the military reserve,
I intend on growing my beard back and my hair longer.)  Good luck, Joel.

	May the Lord Bless you and Keep you.	Jerry
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Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: carlson@cwis.unomaha.edu (Brian D. Carlson)
Subject: Re: long haired men; rebuking needed?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 17:40:42 GMT

	In my opinion, men look better with short hair, and women look
better with long hair. There is a problem in 1Cor 11, with saying there
is no problem, but Paul say's vs 16 "if any man seem to be contentoius,
we have no such custom, neither the churches of God"

	I used to have long hair, but it didn't mean much to me. I could
have it either way, and I wouldn't miss long hair in the summer, and I
wouldn't miss short hair in the winter. There's nothing more spiritual
about a woman having a doylie on her head, and that is what some
churches have done with this passage.

	I have friends who have long hair, and that's fine with me, but
they seem to get so defensive about it. I saw a singer who told teh
croud that guys who get saved, and keep their hair short are just being
religious. The attitude in some people like that with long hair *IS*
detrimental to them, but the only harm I see in the hair is if they are
working around machinery, or in food service without a hat on.

	I like the way Mike Warnke portrayed the essence of what Stacy
said about Samson. He said that in response to why he doesn't cut his
hair, he says, "The only cause of blindness in the Bible was a haircut."

	If God is convicting you to cut your hair, I wouldn't ignore it.
But if it is really just people playing the Holy Spirit to you, then of
course they are out of line. Don't judge them back, because we all at
times have known someone who we didn't think God was dealing with
sufficiently, so we are tempted to help out. (Well I have anyway.)

God bless you, Hippie (-;
Brian D. Carlson
carlson@unomaha.edu
From: kenneths@ai.mit.edu (Kenneth J. Schneider)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: personal jesus lyrics
Date: 22 Dec 92 14:57:12 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
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thought these would be relavent/informative:

ftp'd from ftp.uwp.edu:/pub/music/lyrics/d/depeche.mode/personal_jesus

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"Personal Jesus" - Violator - Depeche Mode

Your own personal Jesus
Someone to hear your prayers
Somone who cares
Your own personal Jesus
Someone to hear your prayers
Somone who's there

Feeling unknown
And you're all alone
Flesh and bone
By the telephone
Lift up the receiver
I'll make you a believer

Take second best
Put me to the test
Things on your chest
You need to confess
I will deliver
You know I'm a forgiver

Reach out and touch faith
Reach out and touch faith
Your own personal Jesus

Feeling unknown
And you're all alone
Flesh and bone
By the telephone
Lift up the receiver
I'll make you a believer
I will deliver
You know I'm a forgiver

Reach out and touch faith
Your own personal Jesus
Reach out and touch faith
--
* There were no stanzas in the lyrics sheet; I have tried to split 
  them in a logical fashion.

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ken
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: cjones@pbs.org
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Jesus Christ Superstar
Date: 23 Dec 92 13:51:31 EST
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA

In article <urcat.724789501@mcl>, urcat@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eilidh Swan) writes:
>>In article <1gii6sINN5l7@coral.bucknell.edu>, whelan@coral.bucknell.edu (The Blue Adept) writes:
>  
>> 	I just wanted to bring up a topic that was of interest to me and
>> see what everyone else thought.  I am (as I write) listening to Andrew
>> Lloyd Weber's Jesus Christ Superstar... 
> 
>>[stuff deleted]
> 
>>...My question is this:  Is it wrong to listen to this musical, even if
>> it can touch people?  Is the musical wrong?  
> 
> As I've heard it, the musical is not an *accurate* portrayal of the Life
> of Jesus, but *is* worth listening to (note: I'm biased toward loving 
> Andrew Lloyd Weber anyway.... :)
> 
> As another writer pointed out, the emotions portrayed in JCS are *incredible.*
> _Godspell_, based on the accounts in Matthew, is perhaps far more accurate
> than JCS, (i.e. Jesus rises from the dead in Godspell, not in JCS; there's
> no glorification of Judus in Godspell where there is in JCS.)  But it doesn't
> make my heart catch in my throat like JCS, like the flogging scene.  Ack, 
> whenever I listen to the soundtrack and hear all 39 lashes, I want to cry.
> 
> It's a great piece -- musically; good for emotional understanding of the
> *Passion* of Christ (akin to Bach's Passions written for Good Friday services);
> and good for examining what the Bible *really* says, as opposed to the
> story line of JCS.  Thought-provoking, easily.
> 
> Btw, I recommend Godspell to people too.
> 
> 
> Eilidh Swan
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>                   eilidh@cs.ucsb.edu       -- Eilidh is Celtic for Ellen
>  The University never has, and never will, pay for or fund my opinions.
From: rhm@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Miller)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 23:35:40 GMT
Subject: Re: CCM CD/tape clubs?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian

In rec.music.christian, cdelaney@stein.u.washington.edu (Chuck Delaney) writes:

> Funny you should ask.  Just a couple of days ago, we received an invitation
> to join Word's Family Record & Tape Club (funny, though, they didn't offer
> records :-).  Good deal: 4 tapes or CDs for $1 each (plus shipping and sales
> tax, but still a deal).  Better deal: no commitment--you're not required to
> buy anything else from them.  The catch: if you don't buy anything for six
> consecutive months, they drop you (might be what happened to you before).

Hmmm. Maybe there IS a way to beat the system! Just take them up on the offer,
and then get your mother to take them up, and then the next-door neighbor, etc,
etc.

And then just mail all the cards back for six months!!!

Bob (I wonder how good their computer xref's are???) Miller

Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: gayde@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (p.a.gayde)
Subject: Re: Anyone heard of the Newman Singers?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:21:48 GMT

From article <1992Dec29.110522.19885@icf.hrb.com>, by jek@icf.hrb.com (Joe Karolchik):
> Hi all!
> 
> I was just wondering if any of you out there have heard of a fantastic
> group of college musicians/vocalists called the Newman Singers and Ensemble
> from the Univ. of Iowa.  They are sponsored by the Catholic Newman Center
> on campus at the university, and they are a great group of people.  They
> travel, but not a whole lot (since they're mostly students) and mostly in
> the mid-western states.  The director, Joe Mattingly, has written almost all
> of the music that they perform, along with orchestral scores for it.  I think
> that they have seven or eight albums right now.
> 
> I visited with the group at the beginning of December to participate in their
> Christmas concert.  They had about 35-40 musicians in the orchestra and 
> 50-60 vocalists.  What an incredible sound this produced!!  
> 
> If you haven't heard this group, they are worth listening to.  Just thought
> that you all might like to hear about a very positive educational/vocational/
> spiritual experience that's happening.
> 
> Peace!
> Joe Karolchik
> State College, PA

A woman, Tanice Tangeman, in my parish (St. Thomas the Apostle, Naperville, IL) is
a member of the Newman Singers, she also met her husband, Joe Finnegan, in the group.

The group has visited our church twice.  The first time, they performed a concert
and also played at the weekend's masses.  The second time, they played at Tanice
and Joe's wedding and were also the band at the reception!

We play MANY of Joe Mattingly's songs including "In You, Lord", "On That Holy
Mountain" and "Be With Me, Lord".  They will be visiting again on February 6-7 to
hold a workshop, play at masses AND play a concert.  It should be a great weekend!

Pete Gayde
AT&T NCR
Naperville, IL
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: caw@gtech.com (Christopher A. White)
Subject: Re: Long Haired Man
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 19:30:25 GMT

Is it clean and tidy? 

If yes, quit buggin; if no, take a shower, then quit buggin.

Whenever someone says anything about my hair, I take the position that
we were wrong to break the gret traditions of the renassiance and then
let them figure out whether or not I'm serious.

I would cut mine for money, though.


Topher
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From: dsc9hmr@bumed10.med.navy.mil (H. Mike Rice)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Long Haired Man
Date: 30 Dec 92 18:02:17 GMT
Organization: elf____electronic learning facilitator, inc

Labson,

Sorry for using your alias or last name, your first name never
followed your article.

First, you are flamebaiting with this topic.  There are already
several individuals which enjoy stirring readers of this 
newsgroup.  Hopefully, your not one of them.

Of course, there is nothing wrong with the length of your hair. 
You know this to be true, you have already stated so.  However,
you must ask yourself why you're so concerned with the issue !!

Your relationship with the Lord is yours and yours alone.  Your
liberty is complete in Jesus.  Your salvation is complete in
Jesus.  Your witness is your responsibility !!  You do more damage
to your witness in defense of your liberty than with the physical
appearance.  Would you have followed John the Baptist ??  He would
have scared me to death.  He made no defense to his appearance, he
simply preached truth !!  

Praise God, that he has given you the ability to sing !!  Music is
a tremendous tool and a powerful weapon against the devourer !!  Use
it, Live it and the rest will take care of its self !!

By His Grace,

-- rice

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From: tk@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Tommy Kelly)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Music of Enya, Clannad etc
Date: 27 Dec 92 21:06:27 GMT
Reply-To: tk@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Tommy Kelly)
Organization: Laboratory for the Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh U

Anyone care to comment on the music of Enya and Clannad?

tk
From: labson@borneo.corp.sgi.com (Joel Labson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Long Haired Man
Date: 30 Dec 92 19:40:20 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <DSC9HMR.92Dec30130217@bumed10.med.navy.mil>,
dsc9hmr@bumed10.med.navy.mil (H. Mike Rice) writes:
|> Labson,
|> 
|> Sorry for using your alias or last name, your first name never
|> followed your article.
|> 
|> First, you are flamebaiting with this topic.  There are already
|> several individuals which enjoy stirring readers of this 
|> newsgroup.  Hopefully, your not one of them.
|> 
|> Of course, there is nothing wrong with the length of your hair. 
|> You know this to be true, you have already stated so.  However,
|> you must ask yourself why you're so concerned with the issue !!
|> 
|> Your relationship with the Lord is yours and yours alone.  Your
|> liberty is complete in Jesus.  Your salvation is complete in
|> Jesus.  Your witness is your responsibility !!  You do more damage
|> to your witness in defense of your liberty than with the physical
|> appearance.  Would you have followed John the Baptist ??  He would
|> have scared me to death.  He made no defense to his appearance, he
|> simply preached truth !!  
|> 
|> Praise God, that he has given you the ability to sing !!  Music is
|> a tremendous tool and a powerful weapon against the devourer !!  Use
|> it, Live it and the rest will take care of its self !!
|> 
|> By His Grace,
|> 
|> -- rice
|> 
|> --
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********

Sorry, I just subscribed to this newsgroup, I haven't got time to read
all the postings....Flaming anybody is not my intention.....

This posting is terminated....The above comments was sufficient enough
for me..

Why didn't I think of him ( John the Baptist i.e I'm neater than him. )
THANKS Mike...


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From: dsc9hmr@bumed10.med.navy.mil (H. Mike Rice)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Prayer Request - please read
Date: 23 Dec 92 16:40:45 GMT
Organization: elf____electronic learning facilitator, inc

On my knees !!

By His Grace,

-- rice
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Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: carlson@cwis.unomaha.edu (Brian D. Carlson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Accurate Bible Translations
Date: 30 Dec 92 18:03:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha


	At first, I considered this idea about hairspray utterly
ridiculous. But then I got to thinking about times when I'm near my wife
when she applies hairspray. If it gets on me, or in my face, I gag. I'm
pretty good about getting out of the way. But I think God is trying to
tell me that this stuff isn't good for men.

	BTW has anyone read the Alberto V0.5 Bible?
From: titan@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Titanium Knight)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Moby!
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 02:14:22 CST
Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

Well guys/gals, I don't know that much about Moby.  I don't even have any 
of his tapes, but I DO listen to his songs on the radio quite often.  I 
listen to an alternative radio show called Brave New Waves, on CBC Stereo 
(Canadian Broadcasting Corporation).  Infact, I'm listening to it right 
now.  It's not a Christian show, but it's the only good thing on radio 
(all the other stations are Hard Rock or Top 40).  A few nights ago BNW's 
played a Moby song, and the guy said "And that's Moby, who's a born again 
Christian..", etc.  Moby makes techno music, and from what I hear he's 
very popular in the techno/dance scene.  If you go to a decent music 
store, I'm sure you'll find some Moby titles.  I just don't have a lot of 
money, so I can't buy everything I'd like to (I'm very selective now).  
Maybe I'll get into Moby, I really enjoy his music on Brave New Waves!  
 
Ttyl,
Titan
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: Bob.Weigel@launchpad.unc.edu (Bob Weigel)
Subject: Logan Shaw!/Carmen
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 05:27:09 GMT

     Logan!  Long time no "see".  Give me a write and let me know how you
are doing.  I just saw your name in the article about Carman...on whom I
shall comment.  It wasn't really there, though, (I just got back from 
vacation, so I lost some articles. )  Therefore, I don't have an address!
	As to Carman...a brother and I just popped "Comin' on strong" on
the old turntable, right before logging on.  For a 1984 album, it holds
its ground pretty well production wise.  I consider the guy to be one of
the best lyricists (did I spell that right?  Wow, since I am one, I guess
I otta find out huh?)  in CCM today...along with Steve Camp, in the "words
for the body of christ" catagory....Okay, and Keith Green, Twila and a few
others....but in terms of communicating things in a striking, profound way,
he IS an ARTIST! -bob
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From: Arthur@cswamp.apana.org.au (Arthur Marsh)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Distribution: world
Subject: Cornerstone '93
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 03:43:25 +1000

I just received the following information from Eric Pement, sysop
of the JPUSA bbs in the CCMRADIO echo that may interest some
readers of r.m.c.:

Dear Bob,

   In answer to your question:

 >         Is it possible to drag an early, early, early, list of
bands 
 > that MAY play (not definite because it's too early to say) at

 > Cornerstone '93 out of you?
 > 
 > It's December and I'm already ripping,raring and ready for
Cstone
 > '93. :>

   Okay, I just talked with the Festival coordinator, and here's
a complete list of the bands which have confirmed their
appearance at Cornerstone '93:
  
   Cauzin' efekt             Newsboys
   Bride                     Larry Howard
   Darrell Mansfield         DeGarmo & Key
   REZ                       LSU
   Charlie Peacock

   That's all for now.  We're still working on booking the rest! 
Keep us in prayer, and I hope to see you at the Fest!
  
                                Yours/His,
                                Eric Pement

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