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From: Lars Thore Aarhus <larsaa@ifi.uio.no>
Subject: Norwegian qualifying play-off.
Cc: sundsbarm@davidsys.com, warloe@usc.edu, lasseh@seattleu.edu,
    polsen@was.waii.com, finn@fsg.com, w2baust@watson.ibm.com,
    einevoll@SDPHLS.UCSD.EDU, eivind@milton.u.washington.edu, kd@lis.pitt.edu
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 12:35:09 GMT
Originator: larsaa@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no


 No matches in the premier division this week due to Wednesday's all-important
WC-qualifier at Wembley. However the first match (of three) in the qualifying 
for the last place in next years premier division was played on
Sunday, and ended:

Droebak/Frogn  		Stroemmen		2 - 0 (1-0)	2.100
1 - 0 A.Michelsen (44)
2 - 0 T.Michelsen (75)

- The Michelsen-twins sunk Stroemmen with two fine goals.
  Unfortuneately they were both cautioned as well thus leaving them
  out of the last qualifying match because of too many yellow cards.
  This could really dent DFI's chances as these twins have played 
  a major part in DFI reaching these play-offs. Stroemmen on their 
  hand dominated play in the first half hour but faded after 
  the home-team took the lead. They must now win by at least 3 goals
  against the premier side in order still to be in contention for
  the premier-place.

Remaining matches:

21/10: Stroemmen- 10th in premier division.

24/10: 10th in premier division- Droebak/Frogn

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|  'Lyn for the Norwegian championship 1993'                    |
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From: smk@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Stefan Kahrs)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: 10 things they don't say on the telly
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:51:49 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of Edinburgh, LFCS

14. As you can see in the slow-motion replay,
    the linesman got it right -- it wasn't offside.

15. And once again, Matthaeus played well when it really mattered.

16. The goalkeeper had no chance
    against this fierceful 20m shot of Koegl. 
--
Stefan Kahrs
From: v110ju95@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (MERIKELE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: i want the list of drills also...
Date: 15 Oct 92 00:36:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


I know I mightbe the start of a long list of "me too" but could i also get a
copy of those drills requested?


thanks in advance,
Aron
From: grc@stl.stc.co.uk (Gary Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: RTL-4
Date: 16 Oct 92 11:24:35 GMT
Organization: STC Technology Ltd., London Road, Harlow, UK.

In article <1992Oct16.091505.1526@fwi.uva.nl> bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring) writes:

>   For the people who don't know Hans Kraay, two examples from the Holland
>   Poland match:
>
>   'Oh, that obviously is a throw-in for Poland'
>   (The linesmans flag was TOWARDS the Poland goal -> throw-in for Holland)
>
>   'The fans still believe in their chances...'
>   (He didn't see that the fans shown were fans from Poland) 
>
>   But I think you have a good point with that petition. Are there any more 
>   people who think like us? There should be...
>   As a start I'll write a letter to Voetbal International about Hans Kraay,
>   to interest more people!

Although I couldn't understand alot of what he was saying ( I'm
*learning* dutch ) ..... it seemed odd when Holland scored and his
reaction was similar to
 
               " ... A goal .. ho hum .. well there you go "

He wasn't at all bit excited ... which he should have been as Holland
were 0-2 down at the time.

I also think the camera coverage etc. is pretty bad ... never mind,
it's better than nothing for me. In England it's either RTL-4 or
nothing ( and that's only if you have a satellite dish ).

-Gary Cook.


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From: CSALLEN@uga.cc.uga.edu (Christopher S. Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Goal.zip
Date: 10 Oct 1992 17:13:18 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: David <waddlech@wam.umd.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

David,

I downloaded GOAL.ZIP OK, but I can't seem to unzip it. I am working with
PKZIP (and PKUNZIP) versions 1.1 dated 3/15/90. When I viewed data for the
file, I got the following information:

Searching ZIP: E:/ZIPS/GOAL.ZIP

          Filename:
         File type: binary
        Attributes: ---
     Date and Time: Aug 10,2031  01:24:00
Compression Method: Unknown
   Compressed Size: 2905153
 Uncompressed Size: 68633088
  32 bit CRC value: 20160d16
        Created by:   PKZIP: 1.3 under Unknown OS
 Needed to extract: PKUNZIP: 1.3

I am guessing that I need version 1.3. But if so, where do you get it. I though
thought everything after 1.10 was still in alpha testing.

I sure hope I don't need to have 68 MB free to run GOAL. If so, I'll get back
to you after I trade in my 130 MB disk for something in the gigabyte
category. <g>

When I downloaded it from my mainframe to my PC, it said that the file
size was something on the order of 146K. This sounds more like it.

Would you be so kind as to upload a version to me but one that is compressed
with a version of PKZIP that I can handle?

Thanks, Chris

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From: chris@scan.genetik.uni-koeln.de (Christian Schetter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: German team bored me yet again
Date: 15 Oct 92 10:28:54
Organization: Institute of Genetics/Dept. Virology, Cologne, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: scan.genetik.uni-koeln.de
In-reply-to: wallmann@backus.pu.informatik.th-darmstadt.de's message of Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:46:26 GMT

I am very sorry, but an asshole from my own country called Austrias
coach a Zombie. Actually it was Ernst Happel, a well known and
excellent coach, who is now fighting cancer and he looks like
undergoing chemotherapy at the moment. He was known for heavy smoking
and drinking and I don't know if his disease is now a consequence of
this, but he has all my respect for his fight. Think first, post
after. I apologize for my stupid countryman!

Regards

Chris

--
//
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Institute of Genetics                     Weyertal 121
University of Cologne                     D-5000 Koeln 41
Dept. of Virology                         Germany
Tel.: 0221/470-3422                       Fax.: 0221/470-5163
e-mail: chris@scan.genetik.uni-koeln.de
From: LIPSCOJA@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Andy Lipscomb)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Non-English accents
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:59:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Oct15.215936.4418
Organization: Vanderbilt University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.21

My keyboard can generate accented letters.  What I am trying to discover is
whether others will see them as such.

v   o-umlaut
V   O-umlaut
`   a-grave accent
@   A-grave accent
q   n-tilde
x   o-slash
(   o-four projections
F   AE
?   inverted ?
!   inverted !

Please e-mail me (English or French) to tell me if they appear properly on
your screen.


Andy Lipscomb
lipscoja@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Bitnet: lipscoja@vuctrvax)
From: I.T.Marsh@man0507.wins.icl.co.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Bolton, Notts County v Grimsby & Gary Lineker
Date: 12 Oct 1992 03:43:38 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu







 This weekend due to the necessary attendance of a stag party in 
 Nottingham I missed the Bolton v Hartlepool game which finished 
 Bolton 1 Hartlepool 2. Bolton are very close to the relegation 
 zone now.
 
 I did attend the Notts County v Grimbsy match though.
 
 Notts have a very nice looking ground now. On 3 sides it was 
 completely knocked down & rebuilt, making 3 sides all seater. I 
 wasn't exactly looking forward to a mega exciting afternoon of 
 football, but this one jumped out and kicked me in the face. The 
 ref had a great game!
 
 In the first half, half of the Grimsby team got booked. Notts took 
 the lead on the 30th minute with a header by Gary Lund. Just prior 
 to this Kevin Bartlett had done his Ronnie Rosenthal impression by 
 blasting the ball against the bar from 5 or 6 yards out when he 
 seemed certain to score.
 
 In the second half the Grimsby captain was sent off for lunging 
 into the back of a County player. This was closely followed by a 
 penalty for County when Gary Lund was barged in the back by a 
 Grimsby player just inside the edge of the box. The goalie was 
 booked for complaining to much (dissent). He then saved the 
 penalty, which was poorly taken. A few minutes later Kevin 
 Bartlett was racing on to a ball, clean through on the keeper. The 
 keeper came charging out and handled the ball outside the box. The 
 ref checked with his linesman and sent the keeper off too! By this 
 time the County crowd were baying for a dismissal for every foul 
 because by this time just about every Grimsby player was either in 
 the dressing room or booked.
 
 The match finished Notts County 1 Grimsby 0, and I thoroughly 
 enjoyed it!
 
 
 Someone asked recently how Gary Lineker was doing in Japan. Well 
 he doesn't go to Japan until next February or March. He is 
 currently doing radio and TV work for the BBC.
From: KEMCC@CUNYVM.BITNET
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: help!!!!!W.C. Prelims
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:52:46 GMT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

======================================================================== 60
Hi gang,
Could someone please post the Italian League's Results for last Sunday,
4'th October?
Also i am in the dark about the World Cup 94 qualifing matches played around
the world.Could someone please post the Points Tables for the various groups.
                                                         Thanks a bunch,
                                                          Kenny.

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From: SYSMAINT%BRUFBA.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU (Luiz Alberto)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Championship of Rio de Janeiro-BR
Date: 16 Oct 1992 14:38:01 -0500
Organization: Universidade Federal da Bahia - Brasil
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu
X-Unparseable-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 11:10:01 BRA

 Championship of state of Rio de Janeiro , Brazil

                     Taca Rio
                     """"""""
Round 1
Oct. 10th
---------
 Goitacaz       1-1  Madureira
Oct. 11st
---------
 Itaperuna      1-1 America-TR
 Americano      2-0 Olaria

 Volta Redonda  2-2 Botafogo
 Valtinho 5(1)      Marcelo 22(2)
 Eduardo 10(1)      Andre 28(2)

 Flamengo       1-0 Bangu
 Junior 22(2)
Oct. 12th
---------
 Campo Grande   2-3 Vasco Da Gama
 Luciano 28(1)      Carlos Alberto Dias 21(1)
 Paulo Cesar 35(1)  Jorge Luis 33(1)
                    Carlos Alberto Dias 13(2)
                                                 Total
Team             G   W   D   L    GF-GA  Points  Points
---------------------------------------------------------
Americano        1   1   0   0    02-00      2    09
Vasco da Gama    1   1   0   0    03-02      2    20
Flamengo         1   1   0   0    01-00      2    18
Itaperuna        1   0   1   0    01-01      1    01
America-TR       1   0   1   0    01-01      1    09
Goitacaz         1   0   1   0    01-01      1    01
Madureira        1   0   1   0    01-01      1    15
Volta Redonda    1   0   1   0    02-02      1    10
Botafogo         1   0   1   0    02-02      1    16
Fluminense       0   0   0   0    00-00      0    14
America-RJ       0   0   0   0    00-00      0    05
Bangu            1   0   0   1    00-01      0    16
Campo Grande     1   0   0   1    02-03      0    05
Olaria           1   0   0   1    00-02      0    00
---------------------------------------------------------
(*) The game Fluminense - America-RJ was postponed.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Real Madrid - Valencia score anyone?
From: Juan Jose Mata <jmb3+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 14:34:22 -0400 
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

> Hi there!

> Could someone please post the result of Real Madrid - Valenica?

Real Madrid - 2          Valencia - 0

One of the goals by Prosinecki (fist goal of the season for him). I
don't know about the other one. 

If you want to hear some really impressive Real Madrid news ... read the
next posting!!!

		- J.J.


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#     Go L.A. Lakers !    Go S. F. 49ers !      #  
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: tom@ethome.et.iupui.edu (Thomas Boehm)
Subject: Re: Italian League: Serie A and B Results/Standings (Week 5)
Reply-To: tom@lightning.cadcam.iupui.edu
Organization: School of Engr and Tech, Purdue Univ at Indpls
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 15:03:57 GMT

> Serie B, Week 5; Games played Sunday, October 4, 1992:
> 
> Ascoli		3	Piacenza	0

How is the Austrian forward Bierhoff doing at Ascoli, Marco? Is he still there
or have they sold him (I think he was actually property of somebody else?)..

Thanks for the info.

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From: CSALLEN@uga.cc.uga.edu (Christopher S. Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Why does UNIVISION keep showing Mexican league matches?
Date: 7 Oct 1992 22:02:09 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Good questions about what Univision is showing. Also, what happened to
the old studio, what happened to Futbol Internacional, and why is the
program called Domingo Deportivo? Does this mean that they will be
spending less on soccer?

Maybe someone should write or call Andres "Goooooooooooooooooooooooool"
Cantor. In case you don't speak spanish, he also speaks english very well.

Best, Chris

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
From: dejohnso%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (David Johnson)
Subject: Program for Team Rankings
Date: 12 Oct 92 12:18:17 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

In the FAQ, I have seen reference to the program used to calculate the
rankings of the teams.  I was wondering if that could be made
publicly available.  I would like to use it in our City League next
year.  If it would be difficult to get onto the net, could someone
send me a description of the method and I will program it and if
people are interested, distribute it.

Thanks,
David Johnson
dejohnso@cs.utah.edu
From: Rosse_Lapper@mindlink.bc.ca (Rosse Lapper)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
Subject: Re: DISC GOLF COURSE
Date: 14 Oct 92 06:07:14 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

Obtaining Gov't (i.e. tax funded) disc golf courses!

Remember the most important thing of all. It is a cost effective,
trans demographical (all ages,skills and genders) integratable and
unsupervised recreational facility that municipal and regional boards
will love when they are informed and educated on its strengths and
weaknesses.

Primary steps.

1- Attend some board meetings to get a feel for procedure and politics

2- Approach somebody in the planning department to get a feel
for possible sites and budget restrictions

3- After choosing several locations survey some residents in the area

4- Obtain references from major metropolitan area boards that have installed
facilities in high profile parks

5- Get info from PDGA and course equipment manufacturers on usage
and cost stats including installation

6- Choose the best three sites you like and go back to the planning
dept with all this info. Ask for help in presenting a proposal to
the board or governing body

7- If things still look reasonably positive after all this you are
now ready to spend a year or so preparing a presentation for the board.
Schedule some tournaments on the proposed sites. Get some
GOOD design consultants with an eye and an ear for the needs of
the general public as well as the regular players. Things will start
to gel if its meant to happen. If not perhaps seek a neighbouring
area or choose another park. Disc golf courses have a great plus
in that they can be built in otherwise unusable park areas. Also they
are removeable with no after effects. Socially they can be a calming
and enhancing facility in socially depressed or crime ridden areas
as they provide an unsupervised and unstructured facility for all.
In hard facts they have a low user cost ratio with installment at
$10,000 or so, NO MAINTENANCE and can support 72 players/hour.

8- If you need more call me at 604-222-4180. Name's Rosse Lapper
@usenet.mindlink.bc.ca

 /u
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
From: kevinpo@sco.COM (Kevin Pondy)
Subject: Re: Rules Question
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:22:00 GMT


The way we have played it is that the vertical jump must be
impeded for it to be a foul.  If you are just outjumped, 
then there is no foul.  There is a question when you don't
jump because someone is right over you.  Should you jump
anyway so that you cause contact proving that he invaded
your vertical space, or should you not jump thus avoiding the
contact but call the vertical space foul.  I think that
if he keeps you from jumping, whether there was contact or
not then it should be a foul (why should you be punished
for trying to avoid a possible injury situation).
All in all it is a tricky call.
  -Kevin   kevinpo@sco.com
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bharat@shadow.Eng.Sun.COM (Bharat Mediratta) writes:

>Hey disc junkies!

>Here's a rule question.  A player on the offensive team
>is lined up to make a pass.  Another, taller, player on
>the defensive team comes running in and they both jump
>at the same time.  The defensive player *out-jumps* the
>offensive player and reaches *over his head* and gets
>the disc, without making any kind of contact whatsoever.

>Does this break the rule about control of vertical space?

>Please arbitrate this for us, oh mighty net readers :)

>	-Bharat


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From: "KAMHI, VICTOR" <KAMHIV@pt.cyanamid.com>
Approved: news@is.morgan.com
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 20:57:55 GMT
Munged: news-gateway (is.morgan.com: $Revision: 1.8 $)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Company, Inc.
Distribution: world
Subject: SOTG/"dirty tricks"/&the meaning of life



The initial question posed was innocent enough:
was it was anti-SOTG for a team to continue to play
and score when the defenders stopped, having heard
"time out" being yelled in from the sidelines, rather
than having been called from the field. What has 
since ensued has been a major trafficking of possibly
anti-SOTG "dirty tricks". I've read these for the last
few weeks with a mixture of amusement and bemusement.
Many were simply against the rules, most were anti-
SOTG, and a few were kinda cute, if not practiced too
often. As a follow-up to the original question, there
was a sidebar concerning whether "using the rules" to
your teams' advantage was, in itself, anti-SOTG. 
Initially, I tended to agree that any team which tried 
to derive advantage was acting in an ANTI manner.
Having seen the resulting discussion, I'm now not so
sure. Bear in mind, the rules are there for EVERYBODY--
it should be every player's responsibility to learn them.
(For what we get out of the sport, Ultimate asks very little
from its participants. This is one of its few demands.)
If people spent as much time LEARNING the rules as they
have obviously spent conjuring up far-fetched game 
scenarios, then nobody could be charged with taking
advantage. (One obvious exception to this is that when
one encounters a player or team that is OBVIOUSLY new
and inexperienced, then the more experienced player 
should view the infraction as a chance to enlighten
the other party, not to dis(c)' 'em. THAT would be an
opportunity to remain on the right side of SOTG.) 

Gettin' off the "sidelines" on this one, VIC
From: 93rpg@bullfrog.world (Robert van Gent)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
Subject: Re: Dirty tricks (or would these just be "stupid tricks"?)
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:55:07 GMT
Organization: /home/bull/93rpg/.organization


Here's another dirty trick which is pretty clearly not for use in games
but is fun to try once in a while during practice:

You have the disc and the stall count is getting pretty high.  Instead
of making a risky throw and turning it over, simply grab the disc with
both hands, and bounce it off of the defender's head.  If you completely
let go of the disc and then catch it again, they must restart the stall
count.  The ensuing confusion is fun to watch too.

Keebler
From: Rosse_Lapper@mindlink.bc.ca (Rosse Lapper)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
Subject: Re: Disc Golf Course
Date: 15 Oct 92 04:52:36 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

info available from ed headrick. I don't know if he still makes DGA
chain baskets but he did have lots of literature to help getting
recognition for the viability of DG. Contact Ed Headrick at Kransco WhamO
or at the WFDF.
--
frisbie@mindlink.bc.ca
(604)222-4180
wiser thru hyzer
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
From: krajnatg@infonode.ingr.com (Tom G. Krajna)
Subject: Re: dirty tricks
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 04:11:34 GMT

Eric.Simon@f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Eric Simon) writes:

>Btw, Tom, welcome aboard.  How's Ultimate in Florida these days?

It's in Alabama, and it's not bad.  We're hoping the four teams from
our section will be significantly annoying to the marquee names at
regionals.

As Bush, Clinton, and Perot said, "Let's get it on!"

--Tom K.