From: c9b-ap@po.berkeley.edu (HakLien Chua)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Subject: Re: Mentality of Singaporean (Grossly over generalization)
Date: 28 Jan 1993 09:41:21 GMT
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
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Mr 'Let's-feminize-the-oppoenet' Sister-Dwight-Joe aka underdog@leland.stanford.edu
}In article <1k6lsuINNrpt@falcon.natinst.com> fellow@natinst.com (Osbert Tan)
}writes:
}>>[much back-slapping and gleeful _oinking_ about how Chinese-cu twits
}>>censured a person that they don't like]
}>At the risk of making some overly generalised statements, I will attempt to
}>point out the importance of Freedom of speech, and the lack of in Singapore.
}>Simpliest way to silent dissents is to shut 'em up, and the attitude 
}>propagated by the Singapore political culture can be observed from this
}>newsgroup. Yes, you have the right to complain and it is IMO an inalienable
}>right. However, do not assume all administrators will respond the way you've
}>speculated, I know, I have spoken to some them. We silent oppositions,
}>silent dissents, silent people who have shown the slightest disrespect to
}>Singapore (and/or any ornaments that is remotely symbolizing Singapore).
}>Sure, it is effective, but at what cost ?
}
}Come on.  We are talking about Singapore.  What does Singapore have in
}common with China and Taiwan?  They are all run by a single party that is
}dominated by Chinese-cu blowhards.
}
}In _none_ of these countries is there _any_ respect for individual liberties
    ^^^^^^                             ^^^^^
WOW! Wait, it gets better.....
}and freedoms that are so prevalent in the United States of American and
}Japan and the rest of the Free World.  For some sick reason, there is the
}disgusting need in Chinese-cu culture to silence opposing ideas, to _kill_
                                                                     ^^^^^^
Are you using this FIGURATIVELY, or LITERALLY?
}those who have opposing ideas, etc.
}
Pardon my ignorance, but could u explain what the suffix -cu and -ge means?
I think this article was xposted from s.c.asian.american, and most people
here don't read that newsgroup.

}
}Hey, sister!  These are Chinese-cu people that we are talking about.
}Look again at the societies that Chinese-cu culture has created.
}
}Does Mr. Tan see any Chinese-cu nation where there is respect for differing
}opinions?  No way!  At least, not untill hell freezes over.

Hmm.. of course, but Dante's Ninth hell was a ring of ice...

I don't agree with censoring whoever-his-name was, Usenet is an anarchy
after all, but anyway, back to the point. 

U sure you want to apply the actions of a few individuals to a whole nation? 
( Actually, wasn't that the whole Chinese culture?? ) Applies to Osbert too..
My my, how broad... Of course, we could go back and talk about the NEA and 
Mapplethrope and 2 Live Crew and 'Piss Christ' and Tom Sawyer and To Kill a 
Mockingbird being banned and gay books being disallowed, and then we're back 
to talking about free speech, which all should really be in alt.censorship...

Singapore is a young country. It's maturing, and
free speech is a POSSIBLE goal for the country. So don't generalise
your ideas to such a point as to try encapsulating ALL the Chinese
countries. Taiwan and China are different entities, and S'pore can speak for 
itself, thank you, so xiam and speak up when you have something real to say.

And finally, when you want to use the word 'KILL', make it clear what
you mean. Strong word, so strong sentence. Chai bor? Blur-king....
And if you really mean it literally, you better have some evidence.

Chua
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