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From: lstein@adobe.com (Larry Stein)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: ?? Miles Davis - 05/30/74 ??
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:17:04 GMT
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Organization: Adobe Systems

In article <1992Jul28.123347.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu>, jlovkay@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
> 
> I just received from a freind a copy of a Miles Davis concert, from Carnegie
> Hall, 05/30/74. He didn't know its origin either, so I thought I would find out
> what I could here :)
> 
> - is it a commercially available recording ?

     The actual date is 3/30/74.
     It is a commerically available recording, but not in the US.
     It's called "Dark Magus" and is a Japanese CD issue (it's a
     a 2-CD set).  I also have the Japanese vinyl release.
     Tower Records occasionally imports this.
> 
> - the tape is labelled
> 
> A			B
> DARK MAGUS NOLA		DARK MAGUS TATU
> DARK MAGUS WILL		DARK MAGUS WWE (?)
> MILES			MICHAEL HENDERSON
> DAVE LIEBMAN		AL FOSTER
> AZAU LAWHRENCE		M TUME
> PETE CASEY
> REGGIE LUCAS
> 
> OK ! I know NOTHING about Miles Davis (except that this is a GREAT tape !, the
> percussion is incredible !).
> 
> - Are the DARK MAGUS xxxx song titles, people , something else ?

     They're just song titles to my knowledge.  Not all of the above
     titles are correct, but I don't have the CD in front of me.  I 
     can look them up and get back to you
> 
> - What instruments did Dave, Michael, Al, etc play ?
> 
> - Are the names even spelled correctly ?

       Band Personnel

            Miles Davis - trumpet, organ
            Michael Henderson - bass guitar
            Dave Liebman - tenor and soprano sax
            Azar Lawrence - tenor sax
            Reggie Lucas - guitar
            Pete Cosey - guitar
            Dominique Gaumont - guitar
            Mtume - percussion
            Al Foster - drums
>      
> 
> Thanks for any info :)

     Your welcome

     --larry
> 
> Jim
From: wallin@hep1.physics.arizona.edu (Tripp Wallin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: <none>
Date: 30 Jul 92 00:37:13 GMT
Distribution: world,local

I've been a big John Zorn fan for awhile and was wondering if anybody could give me some 
information about him. I've never seen any articles in Cadence or Downbeat about him except for
references like "they sound remarkably like John Zorn's sand-blasted bop." I especially like the
albums he has done with his band Naked City. Could anyone send me Naked City's complete 
discography? and maybe some information about other bands like NC? 

Thanks....
Tripp Wallin
Bass Player and Sometime Student
wallin@hep4.physics.arizona.edu
From: thorn@phoenix.radonc.unc.edu (Jesse Thorn)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Looking For Raw, Hard, Old Blues Saxophone Sound
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:28:44 GMT
Organization: Radiation Oncology, NCMH/UNC, Chapel Hill, NC

In article <Bs7Lpv.G4v@acsu.buffalo.edu> v134junv@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Donald A Martin) writes:
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>I'm looking for any suggestions on tapes/cd's of musicians who play in a really
>raw, powerful, emotional old blues style.  The type of sound you'd associate
>with an old smoke filled blues club.

Listen to Hal Singer. Look for the old Savoy "Roots of Rock 'N' Roll"
and "The Honkers" double lp sets.

--Jesse
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: Miles Davis 1970's output
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 03:44:12 GMT

In article <0095DE8E.DC664560@vax.nott.ac.uk>, cczanj@vax.nott.ac.uk (Andy Jack)
>those Miles records of the 70's, it sounded crass to me then and sounds dated
>now. Personally, I'd recommend an Anton Webern Memorial Prize for Hendrix to
>commemorate inspiring so many dreadful imitators with so little to say.

Hey, Anton's music is burning!

As for Miles, well, I like his 70s music a lot.  I think On The Corner
is one of Miles' greatest artistic statement, on par with how the Grosse
Fugue relates to Beethoven's body of music. 

Structure?  There are lot of layers of seemingly independent things, but
if you listen closely, you find that most of the players are playing a
part which stays close to one idea.  They of course change, but not so
much.  But they listen and react to the group sound. In the process of
improvisation, a player's role in the total sound can shift.  Instead of
being in the backround, a part may shift into the forground.  As the
perspective changes, the music can turn colors, moods, and density.

On The Corner took me the longest to like, but once I copped it, it now
is one of my favorite.

Jeff
From: "dale smoak" <dale.smoak@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: crispell recommendati
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:28:22 EST
Reply-To: "dale smoak" <dale.smoak@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

> Can some Marilyn Crispell fan out there please post a short list
> of your fave titles and why you like them?

"Gaia," for Leo, is first on my list.  The cross-rhythms are viscious at
the beginning of the second part, and the third is full-steam
excitement.  I've probably listened to this 200 times.  "And Your Ivory
Voice Sings" (Leo) is a duet LP with drummer Doug James and it includes
a wrenching "After the Rain," Coltrane's tune.  "Circles" is as good as
everyone has said, and the 1982 "Live in Berlin," for Black Saint, with
Billy Bang, Peter Kowald and John Betsch, is worth looking for.  Sparks
fly when she plays with Bang.

I could go on but this is probably enough.

Dale
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From: axel@gambln.enet.dec.com (Mike Axel)
Subject: Re: Roy Hargorve goes to Berkeley
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 23 JUL 92 09:49:11    


In article <92205.045106FKR@psuvm.psu.edu>, <FKR@psuvm.psu.edu>  Fred Rozenblad writes...
>I just heard a rumor and I don't know how accurate it is: Roy Hargorve is
>going to go to school @ UC-Berkeley. I just recently bought his 3 latest
>CD's:
> 
>    The Vibe - just recorded this year.
>    Diamond in the Rough - 1991.
>    Public Eye - 1990.
> 
>All of those cuts are done on the RCA/Novus label. I found his stuff to be
>really nice. Talk about a natural. He should be playing for years to come.
> 
>If anyone can substantiate his going to school at Berkeley, let me know.
> 
>                                *
>                                * "No performer in any of the arts wants to
>                                *  go backwards; few are content to stand
>Fred Rozenblad-"Kickin' the 3"  *  still; many are eager to move ahead."
>FKR@psuvm.psu.edu               *
>                                *                      -McCoy Tyner
>                                *                     "Tender Moments"

Roy did attend Berklee Colege of Music in Boston on a scholarship after 
finishing high school in Texas. I'm not sure how long he was at Berklee,
but it wasn't much more than one year. He met Antonio Hart, alto sax player
on all 3 albums, at Berklee.

Mike
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From: kskinner@cygnus.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Looking For Vocal Arrangements
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 15:33:36 GMT

Hi, I sing with a female vocal jazz ensemble. There are 14 of us
and we mostly sing SATB arrangements. I am looking for the names and address
of publishing companies that distribute vocal jazz arrangements. Also, if 
anybody knows of any arrangements that are especially suited for female
voices could you please mail me at the above address.

Thanks in advance for any help.

                                           Kathy Skinner
From: eclst2@icarus.lis.pitt.edu (Edward C Lomax)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Jazz in the Windy City
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:38:20 GMT
Reply-To: eclst2@icarus.lis.pitt.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


 I will be moving to Chicago in August and soliciting
 opinions/advice on good places to hear jazz and/or
 blues in the city. 

 As a former resident of two major East Coast cities
(Boston and Philly), I have had many opportunities to
 hear great music. Rumor has it that Chicago will offer
 more of the same. 

 Any suggestions?

 Please send e-mail to the following address.
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From: andrew@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de (Andrew Shields)
Subject: Re: Miles Davis 1970's output
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
Distribution: tub
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 13:15:50 GMT

In <malcolm.711655984@wrs.com> malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:

>Speaking of Big Fun, there's one track on that, "Go Ahead John" that is
>mixed in a really weird way. The guitar track there is mixed really strange -
>I can't tell if it's just one track which gets manipulated or if it's two. 
>Seems to me it's one track of guiatr but they way they cut it back and forth
>in volume it's hard to tell, and I'm mixed on the effect. I once made a
>mono tape of this so I could hear the guitar with a little more continuity
>than the stereo mix and panning allow.

That has to be, along with Parliament's "Maggot Dreams", one of
most psychedelic guitar jams ever recorded.  I also don't know
what they are doing with it as far as the mix, but I'm all for
playing it real loud with a really good stereo!  Is "Big Fun"
available on CD?  I only have a cassette of it I recorded years
ago, and it doesn't sound as good any more...  :-(

Andrew
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 04:51:05 EDT
From: <FKR@psuvm.psu.edu>  Fred Rozenblad
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Roy Hargorve goes to Berkeley

I just heard a rumor and I don't know how accurate it is: Roy Hargorve is
going to go to school @ UC-Berkeley. I just recently bought his 3 latest
CD's:

    The Vibe - just recorded this year.
    Diamond in the Rough - 1991.
    Public Eye - 1990.

All of those cuts are done on the RCA/Novus label. I found his stuff to be
really nice. Talk about a natural. He should be playing for years to come.

If anyone can substantiate his going to school at Berkeley, let me know.

                                *
                                * "No performer in any of the arts wants to
                                *  go backwards; few are content to stand
Fred Rozenblad-"Kickin' the 3"  *  still; many are eager to move ahead."
FKR@psuvm.psu.edu               *
                                *                      -McCoy Tyner
                                *                     "Tender Moments"
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From: hsu@sp24.csrd.uiuc.edu (William Tsun-Yuk Hsu)
Subject: Re: IAI jazz label
Organization: UIUC Center for Supercomputing Research and Development
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 17:18:23 GMT

smehta@kwela.nynexst.Com (Sandeep Mehta) writes:

>> jgthomas@crchh420.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (John Thomas) writes:
>> Does anyone know what artists and how many titles were released
>> on the old IAI label?  

>Also, my Bley collection is vastly inferior to Bill Hsu's (like
>that's a surprise ;-)) so there are more Bley's on IAI -- after all
>it was his own label.

Well I hate to disappoint, but the only addition I have to Sandeep's
list is Pyramid, by Lee Konitz, Paul Bley and Bill Connors. It's a
lovely chamber jazz session, similar in flavor to the Giuffre/Bley/Swallow
dates. Connors sounds amazingly like Bley at times (but on guitar, of
course). They play 6 tunes, 2 by each musician.

I also remember a Giuffre/Bley/Konitz live record on IAI, that's mostly
duets. The store was asking too much money, or I would have snarfed it.

Bill
From: "dale smoak" <dale.smoak@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: new fmps (kowald duet
Date: 25 Jul 92 09:55:32 EST
Reply-To: "dale smoak" <dale.smoak@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

JT>I've seen the album on Owl, YOU STEPPED OUT OF A CLOUD by Blake and Lee
JT>start with.  Can someone post a mini-review of this album???

I don't enjoy it as much as I do THE NEWEST SOUND AROUND, which they
made for RCA in 1961.  The Owl album has a number of good moments but as
an album rarely breaks from dark and bleak moods.  I prefer hearing it
three or four tracks at a time.

The RCA album was reissued on CD by Bluebird as THE LEGENDARY DUETS.  It
leaves off one track from the original but adds a few others.  I prefer
the analog sound of the LP.

Lee's most significant work has been the three dozen albums she's make
with Gunter Hampel on the Birth label.

I like Blake's RAPPORT, 1977 for Arista Novus, probably not reissued.
His Soul Note album A TRIBUTE TO BARBARA MONK is nice, too.  He runs hot
and cold for me.

dale.smoak@channel1.com
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From: kougham@pell4l13.alleg.edu (Michael Koughhan)
Subject: John McLaughlin Trio tour dates
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 00:42:30 GMT



Hello.  I am willing to send my pineal gland to anyone who can give me any  
dates for the Trio.  I will drive anywhere (possibly fly overseas to the  
dark reaches of Tibet even) to see this incredible 3-piece.  Also, can  
anyone inform me as to anything about the man himself(magazine articles,  
music books, albums, etc...).  I have heard most Mahavishnu Orcestra, some  
Shakti(Handful and Live), Extrapolation, Miles Davis related works, Carlos  
Santana, and some other things such as Stanley Clarkes (School Daze).   
Also, if anyone can connect me with Havana Jam-Trio of Doom, I will  
gratefully serve your family for a full 10 seconds.  If you have any live  
tapes of ANYTHING McLaughlin was involved with (I would even appreciate a  
sampled version of Birds of Fire in the middle of a Schooly D song),  
please tell me how I can get ahold of these.  Enough begging for today.   
Thanks.

Long live the Bunnies From Venus.  

Support Indian music and hug a Sitar (or your local Patchouli Oil dealer).
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From: jost@butch.coyote.trw.com (Patrick Jost)
Subject: Barre Phillips 'Three Day Moon' Where? How?
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:40:38 GMT

Not long ago, someone posted that Barre Phillips 'Three Day Moon' had made
it on to CD. Is this true? I've been looking, but I can't find it, or even
a reference to it.

Please email...



PJ



-- 
..suenos perdidos, dolor infinito, ya sin sentido, en el triste fluir, de los
llantos sumergidos, al silencio de un grito en el vacio... (J. L. Velasquez)

              Patrick Jost/jost@coyote.trw.com/(310) 812-2759
From: jkp@ukc.ac.uk (J.K.Pearson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: I need the theme to 'I rember Clifford'
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:38:14 GMT
Organization: Electronics Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

There is a piece which Lee Morgan used to play called,
  'I rember Clifford`.
Unfortantly I can't rember who wrote it, (it wasn't Lee Morgan).


I`m writing a paper on Clifford algebras, and it would be nice to quote the
main theme of the above said tune at the begin of the paper.

Since my compact disc player is a long way from any piano, and my memory for
the details of tunes is not to good, I havn't been able to transcribe it
down.

If any body out there has it in manuscript form, or can transcribe it down,
could they email me with some ascii aproxiamation.
All I want is the basic theme and the chord structure.

Hope some body can help,

Thanks

Justin Pearson
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From: kendall@adobe.com (Janice Kendall)
Subject: Re: Looking for John Mayall Tune
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:20:07 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.030055.7021@adobe.com> kendall@adobe.com (Janice Kendall) writes:
>I know his music by sound, but not by name and I'd like to buy some of his
>albums.  I'd especially like to find one which has a tune I think of as
>"Too Smooth to Move", kinda one of his signature songs, I believe.
>
>Please excuse my ignorance.
>And Thanks!
>   
> Janice Kendall    kendall@adobe.com    ...!{decwrl|sun}!adobe!kendall
>
>		ONWARD; THRU THE FOG!  (TM)
>				- Oat Willie's (TM)
> 


Many knew the answer:  "Room to Move" on "The Turning Point", now available
on CD.

Thanks so much, ya'll.

   
 Janice Kendall    kendall@adobe.com    ...!{decwrl|sun}!adobe!kendall

        "Giving power and money to the government is like giving 
         whiskey and car keys to teenage boys."  

		- P.J. O'Rourke, former gulf war correspondant, summing
		up what he learned during two years of research on how
		our government functions.
From: jpmakela@cc.helsinki.fi (jP M{kel{)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: re: Beefheart's real name
Date: 24 Jul 92 01:52:46 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <Brun4w.Dw6@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v059jck9@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Ronald S Russ) writes:

> Captain Beefheart's real name is Don Vliet.  


Isn't it Don van Vliet?

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From: chuck@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Andrew Hawling)
Subject: Re: Jazz in Sydney, Australia?
Reply-To: chuck@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Andrew Hawling)
Organization: none
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 05:36:51 GMT

In article <GHH.92Jul21120115@clarity.princeton.edu> ghh@clarity.Princeton.EDU (Gilbert Harman) writes:
>Does anyone know where to hear jazz in Sydney?
>I'll be there in about a week...
>
>--
>
>	Gilbert Harman, Princeton University Cognitive Science Lab
>	221 Nassau Street, Princeton, NJ 08542
>	ghh@clarity.princeton.edu

Well your probably in Sydney by now but if you do read this be at the Strawberry Hills
hotel in Surrey Hills near Central station corner of Elizabeth and Devonshire Streets on
Wednesday 29th for what will be absolutley great. This is a good venue for jazz with
good music and good atmosphere. The Harbourside Brasserie is also pretty good. (There
is some great stuff tonight and tomorrow night!). The best place to check for info on the
jazz scene is from the free paper Onthe Street available at record stores. Or go to the
Jazz Record Store, Birdland they'll probably help you out.

Mark
From: "dale smoak" <dale.smoak@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: musician contact list
Date: 24 Jul 92 10:13:06 EST
Reply-To: "dale smoak" <dale.smoak@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

A friend and I are preparing a list of venues and contacts in the Boston
area that we plan to make available to musicians.  From conversations
with several of them I've learned that they spend time and money they
don't have gathering this sort of information so that they can try to
book themselves.

I would like to hear other people's thoughts on this project.  From
musicians, especially, I'd like to hear how useful you would find such a
list.

I'd like to distribute the list electronically and update it
periodically, and I'd like to encourage people to make similar lists for
their areas.  It could include radio contacts, too, as college and
public stations with jazz and blues shows are often open to interviewing
musicians.

Thank you.

dale.smoak@channel1.com
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From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: Re: Church of St. John the Divine?
Keywords: coltrane, church
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:20:55 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.213726.22578@leland.Stanford.EDU> schabert@spieden.Stanford.EDU (Vernon Schabert) writes:
>I remember someone posting several months ago about visiting a church in
>San Francisco called the Church of St. John the Divine.  Apparently,
>this church has made John Coltrane their patron saint, and performs his
>music at the beginning of each church service.

and people think california is flaky......:-)


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From: smehta@kwela.nynexst.Com (Sandeep Mehta)
Subject: Re: Charles Gayle
Reply-To: smehta@nynexst.com
Organization: Speech Technology, AI Lab, NYNEX S&T Inc, White Plains, NY
	<1992Jul22.002751.9964@csrd.uiuc.edu>
Date: 22 Jul 92 00:27:27


> hsu@sp24.csrd.uiuc.edu (William Tsun-Yuk Hsu) writes:

>   >Please someone say Reggie Nicholson. Please! :-)

>   Boy, I can think of many juicy pairings: Hamid Drake, Andrew Cyrille,
>   Sunny Murray, Ronald Shannon Jackson...

Actually, I mentioned Reggie since he's the drummer on the earlier
Silkheart date(s). And how can we forget Rashied Ali after that earth
shaking summit in Berlin?? So can anyone shake up Jost Gebers to
release it sometime soon (like this year!)??

The reason, I suspect, these wishful collabs may not come about is
because Charles being the very humble sort cannot, or will not,
pursue "known" musicians. He sez that very few musicians (aside from
the ones he plays with) will show up week after week after week for
little or no money.

>   Btw there's been some talk of trying to set up a cross-country tour
>   for Gayle (is he back from Italy?) 

Yup he is. He's playing the KF Monday nights in July & August. I
think a tour will give him much needed exposure. C'mon r.m.b'ers pool
your efforts together...

/sandeep
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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 09:02:55 -0400 
From: Robert Angelo Pleshar <rp16+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Sun Ra on Magic Music

> 
>I picked up a couple of Sun Ra recordings on the Magic Music label today:  
>COSMIC EQUATION and THE SUN MYTH.  Neither gives a recording date (or
even has 
>a copyright date).  Do any of you Ra fans have an idea when these might have 
>been recorded?
> 
>-Lynn

These are most likely bootleg pressings of ESP recordings made from
1965-1966. There are/were three Heliocentric Worlds of Sun Ra Vols. 1 &
2 and Nothing Is.
I'm not sure how they match up with the new titles on the cds, but
Nothing Is is a live recording.
Ralph

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From: mcgonig@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca (Gordon McGonigal)
Subject: Re: Whatever happened to...
Organization: Dept. of Elect. & Comp. Engineering, U of Manitoba
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 06:34:23 GMT

rdz@cci632.cci.com (Robert D. Zarcone) writes:
>Don Ellis.
>The last thing I have of his is a live recording he did at Montreaux (sp?)
>about a decade ago.
>
>Has he done anything lately?  Does anyone have a discography?

Montreux was his last album.  Since then he has been "out of the country". :(
I will send you (and anyone else who requests) a discography.

Gord.
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