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From: WHITE@DUVM.OCS.DREXEL.EDU (Avid Reader - Fledgling Writer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: TV Highlander
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:09:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: rutgers.9210051812.AA09114


       It was on here in Philly at 1pm on Sunday (not 3pm Saturday like that
somewhat silly station list said).

       I enjoyed it.  Richard Moll was great as the rolling-eyed baddie.  The
swordfighting was impressive (except when Slan and Mac went at it in the
polishing room, where the speeded-up footage was all too obvious and ugly).
However, I'm not sure how much mileage the series can get from a weekly baddie
coming to cut Duncan's head off and Duncan doing the reverse.  After all, we
*know* that Connor ended up as *the* immortal - wonder who eventually does
Duncan in?

            Dafydd Cyhoeddwr
From: rck1@ellis.uchicago.edu (roberta chi-woon kwong)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: "LHO" observations: I liked it...
Date: 4 Oct 92 01:51:49 GMT
Reply-To: rck1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Sep25.031914.3020@openage.openage.com> ghost@openage.openage.com (Glenn Host) writes:
>rck1@ellis.uchicago.edu (roberta chi-woon kwong) writes:
>
>
>>The fact that Bellisario went ahead and stated firmly that it was
>>Oswald acting alone irked me slightly. To be sure, QL "tampers"
>>with fictional history all the time, but to create a fictional
>>"real" history, well, that seems to go a bit too far.
>
>
>Did it irk you as much that Oliver Stone made up a lot of fake history
>for his version of JFK?  I think QL left doubt that Oswald was aided
>but primarily that he did it because he was a sick puppy; others
>may or may not have been involved but Oswald definitely was.

I didn't see "JFK," nor do I know enough about the Kennedy
assassination to know how much of the history depicted is fake. I'm
not sure why it bothered me quite so much that QL stated this
"fact"...perhaps it has something to do with the way QL has been so
careful to avoid depicting anything that may be proved or disproved
(i.e., all these leaps into "non-famous" people) aside from its
once-in-a-while "kisses with history." Now, while "plausible" may
not be quite the word to describe QL :-) this aspect of
not-dealing-with-"known"-history helps to keep it in perspective.

>When Sam got beat up in the bar I thought it was because Sam
>thought Oswald deserved it.  I kept hoping that Sam would
>permanently injury Oswald so he could not kill JFK.

Interesting idea. (However, it does bring up the question of "body"
vs. "aura" again. Would *Sam* be permanently injured if he did
this? When Sam leaps out of someone, does the injury stay with him,
or is it passed on to the leapee when he/she arrives back in
his/her own time? Since it's Sam's *body* leaping, I would assume
that Oswald doesn't get hurt.)

>Likewise when it mentions that Oswald attempted to asassinate the
>General, Sam should have walked Oswald into the police station
>and confess.  At least he would have been locked up in the looney
>bin rather than being able to kill JFK.
>
>The question is often raised in time travel stories 'Is it right
>to punish someone for something they will (but have not done) do?'
>In certain cases Hitler, Oswald, etc I think ths answer is yes.

Uh...I think I'll wind up getting in way over my head trying to
discuss this one...


Robin C. Kwong ("er)
				Leapers always reflect before
				deciding what to do next!
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From: glimmer@camelot.bradley.edu (Jennifer Young)
Subject: QL: ftp site?
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: na
Date:  5 Oct 92 08:02:44 GMT

Hi.  I have an address for a QL ftp site and it doesn't seem to be working.
The address I have is ziggy.3com.com.  Is this address wrong?  When I try
to login, it automatically closes my connection to it.  Does that mean it
is no longer public access, or is it simply being picky?  Please let me
know.  Many thanks!!!!  You can either post it or email me.

Thanks again!

jen

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From: driskill%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Hank Driskill, GSH3D)
Subject: Re: Highlander: The Series
Date: 5 Oct 92 10:46:09 MDT
Organization: Grad Student From Hell (in 3D)

In article <15889@umd5.umd.edu> jblum@hamlet.umd.edu writes:
>No spoilers for the series premiere... just an opinion.
>
>I liked it.
>
>This surprised the hell out of me.
>
>For all those who were severely underwhelmed by his role in War of the Worlds,
>Adrian Paul can ACT, and hold his own with Christopher Lambert.  Richard Moll,
>as the Kurgan stand-in, was vastly underused, but had a tongue-flappingly
>good time.
>
>The series takes place before the first movie, so there are plenty of
>immortals roaming about, and it completely ignores Highlander 2: The Quest
>For More Money.  That should be a plus in anyone's book.
>
>Just one question for those who saw it... after the end of this episode,
>where can they go from here for the rest of the season?

Well, I can answer the last one, since (for some odd reason) channel 5 here
in Salt Lake got the _second_ episode instead of the first shipped to them...

The second episode was very well done... I'm a major fan of Highlander and
often refuse to admit the existence of Highlander II: The Sickening, so I was
very pleased that this is before the Gathering.  Since I missed the first,
I'd like some info on the relationship between "Connor Macleod of the clan
Macleod" and "Duncan Macleod of the clan Macleod"... this is the only part 
which still worries me.

The flashbacks were nice here, similar to the first movie (although admittedly
not as well filmed).  The whole episode was very well done, MUCH better than
I was expecting.... I'm looking forward to this next week.

Hank.
From: hship@sw.stratus.com (Howard Ship)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Quantum Leap Premise
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:16:15 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <05OCT92.17733552.0065.MUSIC@MARISTB>, KL62%MARISTB@VM.MARIST.EDU ("Ryan, Edmund") writes:
> Greetings:
> 
> I find the basic premise of Quantum Leap absurd in that Sam
> changes lives on a personal level and not on a societal level.
> In many science fiction stories about time travel, individual
> events have been shown to influence societal events. Even
> in Ray Bradbury's story, ?????? (about the dinosaur hunting
> time travellers), history was changed by killing a butterfly.
> The changes made in the time continuum as in Quantum Leap would
> have an eventual effect on society and thereby change history.
> Even the most seemingly insignificant individuals you can
> imagine eventually have some effect on society.
> 
> If the writers of Quantum Leap really understood, they could
> have some real fun and have Sam alter history as to improve
> the present state of things.
> 
> Virtually,
> 
> Edmund Ryan

Yes, but QL is a drama series (with some comedic aspects).  It is NOT
science fiction, it just uses a science/fantasy premise to speed along
its contrived premise.  I mean, Kane (in Kung Fu) had to wander in looking for
water, hang around until heavily provoked, save the town, then wander off in search
of his brother.  Sam leaps in and leaps out.

Ultimatly, changing QL would weaken it.  See the controversy surrounding the
Oswald episode.  QL reminds ME of the movie Always, where a ghost (Richard Dreyfus)
becomes "the breath of inspiration" to young pilots.  Perhaps when Sam leaps out,
his hosts are unaware of the leap, and just see that, for a time, behaved
differently, and better.  Hopefully, this showed people that they could change
for the better.

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From: mholtz@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Mark A. Holtz)
Subject: Whiteside: Send} E-Mail
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 23:06:09 GMT

Will Eric Lee Whiteside send me e-mail? I lost his alias in my
file.
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From: sdr57@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: will sf channel survive?
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 11:48:17 GMT

In article <gJ01RB3w164w@kryton.UUCP> ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead) writes:
>greenlaw@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Leila Thomas) writes:
>
>> In rec.arts.sf.tv, person@plains.NoDak.edu (Brett G Person ) writes:
>> >I question whether sfc can survive for more than a couple of years.
>> >There is oonly so much sf out there, and a lot of that is BAD sf.
>>
>> I question whether it can survive if only a few places get it.
>> I wonder if someone took a poll to see who does and who does not get
>> the SF channel.  It seems to me from all the posts that the majority
>> do not get it (I am one, I live in the Baltimore-Washington area).
>>
>> Leila
>
>Well I've heard that at least two BIG markets do not get Sci-Fi, and that
>is New York, and Los Angeles.  Probably the two BIGGEST TV markets.
>And living here in the Los Angeles area, I can attest that no one here
>gets it.  I'm sure there are quite a few other major markets that do not
>get it as well.  Most of the cable companies seem to be adopting a "wait
>and see" additude.  If the station works, we'll pick it up next year.  If
>it goes under, we will not have lost anything.
>
My understanding is that about 7 million subscribers have access to it.
That is more than 3x what MTV started with. Don't write it off yet.
From: sasha@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (David A. Tumarkin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: MANN & MACHINE -- Cancelled?
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:11:52 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

Has MANN & MACHINE been cancelled?  I haven't heard onw way or the other
concerning its status.


                                        - Sasha

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From: whelan@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu (John T. whelan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: Oswald explained
Date: 28 Sep 92 05:39:22 GMT

salley@niktow.canisius.edu (David Salley) writes:

>It's not so much the history of LHO, so much as the history of animation.
>A popular cartoon character at the time was Oswald the Rabbit, sort of 
>a precurser to Bugs Bunny.

	Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Oswald the Rabbit Walt
Disney's first major character, whom he lost the rights to, so that he
had to start over with Mickey Mouse?  By how much does he predate 1959?
						John Whelan



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From: ajg620@huxley.anu.edu.au (Andrew J Greinke)
Subject: QL: Antipodean (Aus) television practices
Organization: Australian National University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 07:11:24 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.045046.2792@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> ins598w@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Roger Tall) writes:
>
>Here in Australia we have just finised (I think) the 1991 season of
>Quantum Leap.
>
>Well it is the episode where Sam leaps into an asylum and is given
>electric shock treatment and in the end he leaps with Al.  But we
>discover that Al is the one that actually leaps and Sam is the 
>hologram.
>
>Now, the network (channel 10) in their wisdom??? has decided to start
>showing repeats of old QL episodes from next week.
>

What ????   I have been patiently ticking off the episodes on my ftp'd
episode guide (to which I have forgotten the address - any clues?) since
the current set began way back January (?) this year.  To my knowledge they
started off in the second season with "leap home" but then jumped around
and covered quite a few in season 1.  There are about six which I haven't
seen, either because they haven't shown them or I've missed them.

I do hope it's not a repeat of Channel Ten's "Wonder Years" approach; that is,
continuously recycle episodes in no coherent order (I used to check!).  One
episode I have seen six times in the last year!

Let's hope Channel Ten (or "Capital" in Canberra) do the right thing . . . 

(Growl)
-- 
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From: lightnin@riemann.WPI.EDU (Paraaaaaaaaade of Shoooooooooes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: WOOPS! I shouldn't have had the TV on!
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:13:19 GMT
Organization: DeityCo: Major and Minor Deities Placement Agency
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In-reply-to: jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com's message of 28 Sep 92 13:11:49 GMT

>>>>> On 28 Sep 92 13:11:49 GMT, jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com said:

jjfink> WOOPS!  I shouldn't have had the TV on Sunday night.

jjfink> Seriously.  It's about as lame as high concept can get.  It's
jjfink> pretty much a Sixes Company with no chance of getting
jjfink> disturbed by the Ropers, just giant spiders.

No, no, don't think of it as Three's Company plus three, think of it as
Gilligan's Island minus one.  This is much more accurate, they'er all
stranded, they come from different backgrounds, and there's women there, 
but it's a safe bet no one will touch them.

:)

-lightnin

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From: rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (Randy Sopicki)
Subject: Highlander
Organization: ProLine [pro-amber] -- Spring Valley, Ca
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 20:04:59 PDT

Just finished the opener for Highlander. The show has promise. If you
missed the opener, watch next week. This could be a good one.

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From: jhildeb1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Jeff Hildebrand)
Subject: Re: Blake's 7 Ending
Reply-To: jhildeb1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Jeff Hildebrand)
Organization: Don's Merry Horde of Topologists
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:04:01 GMT

SPOILERS AHEAD (people probably realize this given the subject line, but hey
can't hurt.)


<U16244@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
> I thought that the final seven shots, heard during the credits, were the
> seven shots for each of the members of Blake's 7.  A memmorium of
> sorts.  And besides, if it were the sound FX for a firefight, and  Avon  was
> at  the center of a ring of guards, you'd think it would be louder and
> more rapid fire than just seven, slowly placed, almost symbolic shots.  Then
> again, the firefight  could have gone on in slow mo.


	Nice theory but it has one problem. There are either 9 or 10 shots.
(I got into a long argument at a con with someone about the exact number,
she said 9, I said 10. They were showing the final episode in the video
room that afternoon so we watched it and both claimed we were right
afterwards.) The other fun trick is to try and count the number of guards
you see before the firing starts. For a while I thought that there were
10 guards and 10 shots, but there are definitely more than 10 guards.

	Agreed that the shots seemed too slow for a fire fight, but they were
very clearing playing with time in that episode. At one point as Scorpio is
going down (just as they're about to try the power dive) they have some
rather nifty "strobe" effect and of course the final scene is speeding up
and slowing down like crazy.

"Avon Lives! We're still checking on the others."
"Vila Lives! Who cares about Avon?"
"Blake Lives! But boy does he have a stomach ache."
	-three buttons produced by the Prydonians of Prynceton.

-Jeff
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From: bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs)
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Subject: Woops! is nowhere near Gilligan
Date: 29 Sep 1992 00:20:42 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


No, it wasn't THAT bad.  But I found most of the characters too stereotypical
and flat to be funny.  (The carpenter was the exception -- he saved the show.)
However, most people usually don't share the same viewpoint as the net.  THis
show will be gone by January.
From: kuchar@buast7.bu.edu (Tom Kuchar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: First Surround Movie (Re: Anyone getting the SciFi Channel in Stereo?)
Date: 1 Oct 92 12:09:17 GMT
Distribution: us
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <1992Oct1.064556.19519@netcom.com> saf@netcom.com (Steve A. Feinstein) writes:
>
>Well here in Palo Alto, the Stereo light on my TV comes on when I tune
>to that station.  I remember hearing that Star Wars was the very first
>movie recorded in Dolby [s]tereo (a.k.a. Dolby Surround) so on Blast Off
>night (last Thu), I flipped on my Surround Decoder, and sure enough.
>Blasters to the left of me, Vader to the right... Quick , Duck!

As a point in film history, I think The Who's `Tommy' was actually the
first film in surround.




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From: finifter@remus.rutgers.edu (Tracy E. Finifter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: Where'd he leap from?
Date: 3 Oct 92 17:25:20 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

c164-aa@po.berkeley.edu (Paul DuBois) writes:

>Just a simple question here.  I didn't recognize the scene from which
>Sam leaped at the beginning of the most recent "Taming of ..." episode.
>It definitely wasn't LHO.  Was it a real episode, or was that snippet
>filmed just to be an opener?


Every episode for the rest of the season should start with that same episode.
It's a bunch of clips from previous episodes, the last one being from last
season's "A Little Drop of Rain".
From: wixer!cactus.org!wixer!pro-smof.cts.com!rfletcher@cactus.org (Robert Fletcher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: WOOPS! I shouldn't have had the TV on!
Date: 1 Oct 1992 03:49:43 -0500
Organization: The SMOF-BBS: Science Fiction Online Since 1985 [512-467-7317]
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

  You need to thing about the show Gilligan Island. This show has the same
elememts only I think that this one is not going to be one-tenth as good.
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From: leaper@ddsw1.mcs.com (Maria C. Munoz)
Subject: Re: Highlander TV Series Station List
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:21:31 GMT
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

bau55536@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Larry Combs Jr) writes:

: Correct me if I'm wrong, but with the listing:
: Chicago   WPWR/50  6:30 P.M. Sat
: Doesn't this conflict slightly with STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION?????
	It does conflict....the listing is wrong..you are
correct...Highlander: The Series comes on after ST:TNG at 7pm and lasts
an hour. It was pretty cool. :) Nice music too.
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Subject: Re: Blake's 7 Ending
From: mikew@mdcbbs.com (Mike 'the Bard' Whitaker)
Date: 30 Sep 92 03:12:48 PDT
Organization: Shape Data - a division of EDS Ltd

I'll be good and leave the ^L in!
In article <15783@umd5.umd.edu> jblum@hamlet.umd.edu 
(Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...) writes:

>Well, someone posted quite a few months back that they had seen the
>director's notes/script for the episode, and it included a list of how
>the shots over the end credits should be arranged.  It was scribbled and
>cryptic, and I can't quite remember details, but
>
>* the first shot is Avon's
>* several guards fire, and Avon gets off another shot or two
>AND
>>* the last shot heard, somewhat softer, is Avon's.
>So you never know, he might have made a break for it and gotten away.
>Whoever posted those notes, a repost would be great.

I think that is in the Blake's 7 Programme Guide - at least - I haven't seen
a script at all, and the only book about B7 I have read is that one..

I will check.
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From: schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck)
Subject: Re: Highlander TV show
Reply-To: Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 00:17:05 GMT

dickenjd@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (DICKENJD) writes:

>	Greetings. I was flipping through channels the other day and
>came across a 30-minute spot on my local Fox affiliate about the
>making of HIGHLANDER the series. I am a Highlander fan, and had no 
>idea this was in production. When is it scheduled to begin? Does 
>anyone have any details on it?

I think it starts in October.

I heard it is filming at the Bridge Studios up here in Vancouver BC.




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