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From: john@attcan.UUCP (John Benfield)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Detecting network cards
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:44:16 GMT
Organization: AT&T Canada - MIS Network Development

In article <1992Nov17.100750.8778@iscsvax.uni.edu>, kraai4712@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> I'm working with a number of PCs (mostly PS/2s) and need a way to detect
> network cards.  What I'd like to do is have the autoexec.bat log the user in
> (Novell Netware) if they are connected, and not even try if they're not. 
> Checking for specific software on the local PC is not an option.
> 
> This would be nice, as I install the Novell software up to a month before the
> hardware end of our unit gets around to installing the cards and bringing the
> network connection up.

That's an easy one. Just trap the return code from your first loaded
driver and check to see if it successfully loaded. If not, jump past
loading any other drivers. For example:

-----------------------------
 ECHO off
 cls

REM Load the first driver...
 loadme /first /gag_on_err

REM check to see if the driver reported an error (you may
REM have to check your manual if the driver uses non-standard
REM return codes.
 if ERRORLEVEL 5 GOTO no_network_card

REM if no error, just load the rest of the drivers
 ldthis2
 loadmore
 andmore
 stillmor


REM skip past the extra drivers if there was a problem.
:no_network_card
 load /post_network_stuff
 mouse /no_squeak
 mode com9:153600,n,8,1,p,eieio
 win /eat_more_memory_mode
-----------------

No problem. I used to have a similar problem with preloading
workstations with DEC's PCSA (now PATHWORKS) and this method worked
just ducky. I used to have another nested check to verify that
there was a network connection to the card as well, so that even
if the hardware was installed, if there wasn't a real connection
the machine wouldn't spend time trying to mount resources that
weren't available. (not an inconsequential amount of time, I might 
add)

I hope this helps.


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From: franks@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com (Frank Slootweg CRC)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:22:30 GMT
Subject: Re: Help: Dos 5.0 Mirror command
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, The Netherlands
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc

jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer) writes:

> If you formatted with /u or another version of MS-DOS, unformat will
> search the disk for any mirror files (these are identified by their
> data format).

  As I said I do not use MS-DOS 5.0, but similar tools from PC Tools
6.0, but I think the above statement is unclear/misleading :

- For a diskette there will be no mirror file to search for. After all
  /U does an unconditional complete format (erases each sector), or does
  the MS-DOS option /U work differently than the PC Tools option
  /DESTROY?

- For a hard-disk I think /U is ignored.

Frank Slootweg
From: jrs@wspcrd.PeachtreeCityGA.ncr.com (Jim Shockey)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: HELP: can't get rid of a directory called "LPT1"
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:48:24 GMT
Reply-To: jrs@wspcrd.PeachtreeCityGA.ncr.com ()
Distribution: world
Organization: NCR WSPC Peachtree City, Georgia

Hi. I had a directory named "RPT1" which I erased the other day.  While I
attempt to recover it using Norton Utilities I gave it a wrong name -- "LPT1"
and now I can't do anything about it.  All I want to do is to erase it.
Please help me. Please, please, please...
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: cosham@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Mark Cosham)
Subject: Re: Is there a way to load and unload *.sys ??
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 06:13:00 GMT

In <9232414.377@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> minh@lis.rch.unimelb.edu.au (Minh Tran) writes:

>	Is there away to load and unload device driver files ??
>	eg. all files with extension 'sys' in config.sys
>	Thanks
>	---
>	minh

Hi.  There are a few different products around.  Have a look on
archie.au in some of the ms-dos utilities directories.

Mark Cosham
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: danwood@netcom.com (Daniel J Wood)
Subject: How to hook up Mac 14" monitor as S-VGA?
Keywords: Mac Monitor S-VGA VGA IBM PC Video
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 08:14:18 GMT

I'm trying to set up a S-VGA display system on my clone, and I have a 14"
Seiko 1445 (Sony Trinitron tube) Monitor which is configured for a
Macintosh.

I'd like to hook up this monitor to an S-VGA card, rather than going out and
spending hundreds of dollars.

Is there a way I can hook up the monitor like this, configured for a Mac
display, to an S-VGA card? Does such a cable exist, or do cards exist that
can hook right up? Or is the synching so wrong that it's impossible and I should
go buy a new monitor?

--Dan "fingers crossed" Wood, danwood@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: DRDOS ver 7 When? What?
From: news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 04:07:43 GMT
Organization: DSIR, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Keywords: DRDOS


Hi there,

as an avid DRDOS fan I'd love to know approximately when the next version 
is due out, and what new and improved features it will provide. Following 
DRDOS 6 will be a hard act to follow though. I've heard rumors of closer 
novell support (surprize, surprize) but thats about all.

How about some speculation, or better yet informed comment!

Dale Ogilvie
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: jcmorris@mwunix.mitre.org (Joe Morris)
Subject: Re: DOS 3.30 backup -> DOS 5.0 Restore?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:45:35 GMT

Michel.Davidoff@sonoma.edu (Michel Davidoff) writes:

>In article <Bxx6wt.G69@brunel.ac.uk> Brian.Milner@brunel.ac.uk (Brian D Milner) writes:

>>I'm trying to restore a DOS 3.30 backup onto a PC running DOS 5.0.

>>Anyone know any quick'n'easy fixes?

>Try to use setver.
>I do not think this is possible.

According to MS (and my experience) there should be no problems doing this.
What is (or isn't) happening?

MS Application Note PD0315 states that the MSDOS 5 RESTORE command can
read BACKUP disks created by any version of DOS up to 5.0.

Don't forget that RESTORE will only permit you to restore a file to the
same directory structure where it was found by BACKUP, although you may
do the RESTORE to a different drive letter.  Thus, if you did a BACKUP of:

   c:\foo\readme.txt

you can restore it to:

   d:\foo\

but the RESTORE command will not restore it to:

   c:\bar\

In the last case RESTORE will report "FILE NOT FOUND" or some similar message.

Incidentally, application note PD0315 includes a nice program to generate
an index of the contents of the backup disk.

Joe Morris / MITRE
From: tiok_sr@tac.fi (Seppo Routimo)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Saving machine state
Date: 20 Nov 92 10:36:54 +0200
Organization: City of Tampere, Finland

> Does anyone know of a method to save the state of a PC (ie environment, 
> data, programs) - up to the 1MB boundary - so that, later, I can reload
> and things behave as if no interruption occurred.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Rich.

There is an add-on card which does something like that. During a power 
loss it saves the state of the computer to its battery, when power 
returns it restores the situation. I don't remember the name of it nor 
the price, haven't seen the ad lately. Then again you may mean some
sort of a task-switcher.

Seppo
From: john@attcan.UUCP (John Benfield)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: CMOS Setup on Tandy 2500 XL?
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:46:38 GMT
Organization: AT&T Canada - MIS Network Development

In article <1992Nov18.102441.8806@iscsvax.uni.edu>, kraai4712@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> How do I get to the setup on a Tandy 2500 XL?
> 
> I get a message saying something like:
>   "Invalid configuration, press <F1> to continue"
> 
> I unhooked my printer from LPT1 and am now using a switchbox on COM1.
> 
> Obvious question:  Are these related?  Why?

Probably not.
No PC system that I know of keeps track of port connections in CMOS, 
so it's very unlikely that the error has anything to do with what devices
you have on which ports. Though it could be related to the fact that you
CHANGED the connections (hold on...I'll explain :) 

I've heard of cases where machines with shoddy electrical isolation
on the ports will actually lose CMOS configuration or suffer some sort
of damage when you change connections with the machine or peripheral
powered up. In other words, connecting devices live sends a blast through
you machine and nukes a few bits inside (some time permanently). This
can also happen with static charges with both systems powered off. 
(pretty rare though, unless you're in a high static environment)

Another situation the may occur is that the CMOS backup battery may 
be low and connecting a device causes an additional load (to the 
powered off, badly isolated machine) that causes the current to dip 
just low enough to lose a few data bits. It's an unlikely situation,
but possible. It would require that the port be poorly isolated, the
battery backup system be badly designed and that both be eletrically
connected even when the machine is turned off

It's probably nothing to worry about. Just reconfigure your CMOS 
(check your manual under CMOS, SETUP or NON-VOLATILE MEMORY to 
find out how). You might also want to check your backup battery.
If you continue to experience the problem, swap your battery and 
if you STILL have the problem, take it in for repair.

> 
> Thanks.  --jim


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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: tim@tim.src.utah.edu (Tim Ma)
Subject: Re: Echo command in batch files
Organization: University of Utah
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:51:58 GMT

Hi,

To "suppress" the CR/LF in the DOS echo command, try:

echo hello>temp world >> temp

Output should be:
hello world

Seems to work with MSDOS 5.0.

Tim Ma
Associate Programmer
University of Utah
Email:  tim@src.cppa.utah.edu

Original Message below:
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In article <1992Nov16.204439.17539@oracle.us.oracle.com> skanga@us.oracle.com (Shiraz Kanga) writes:
>From: skanga@us.oracle.com (Shiraz Kanga)
>Subject: Re: Echo command in batch files
>Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:44:39 GMT
>
>In article <1992Nov14.190918.9554@oracle.us.oracle.com> skanga@us.oracle.com (Shiraz Kanga) writes:
>>Hi folks
>>
>>Does anyone know how to prevent echo from issuing a CR/LF at the end of a line.
>>
>>Eg : If I create the following file called test.bat
>>
>>echo hello > temp
>>echo world >> temp
>>
>>The result in temp is:
>>hello 
>>world
>>
>>I need the result to be:
>>hello world
>>
>>And yes I know echo hello world will work but what I'm trying to do is
>>concatenate two strings which are output by two different programs and
>>get both onto one line.
>>
>>Please respond by mail and I'll summarize to the net if there's interest.
>>
>>thanks
>>
>>shiraz
>>skanga@oracle.com
>>-- 
>>Shiraz Kanga (skanga@oracle.com) Tel: (415)506-5412 Fax: (415)506-7822
>>Analyst -- Desktop Tools Group -- Worldwide Technical Support -- 3OP11
>>Oracle Corporation 500 Oracle Pkwy, MS 659311, Redwood Shores CA 94065
>>"I work for Oracle - I speak and type (over here at least) for myself"
>
>Well folks, as promised heres my summary (since there was little interest)
>
>Some people suggested using external echo commands (xecho, etc) which are
>available for anonymous ftp from various sites. This is not useful for me
>since I am not using echo only.
>
>Another person suggested trying an embedded backspace which might erase the
>CR/LF characters in the file. I did try this before posting and could not get
>it to work.
>
>The most useful suggestion was to concatenate the strings in the dos environment
>and then output the variable to a text file. I will try this (albeit clumsy)
>method as soon as I have the time.
>
>Thanks for the replies
>
>Shiraz
>-- 
>Shiraz Kanga (skanga@oracle.com) Tel: (415)506-5412 Fax: (415)506-7822
>Analyst -- Desktop Tools Group -- Worldwide Technical Support -- 3OP11
>Oracle Corporation 500 Oracle Pkwy, MS 659311, Redwood Shores CA 94065
>"I work for Oracle - I speak and type (over here at least) for myself"
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: rnichols@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (robert.k.nichols)
Subject: Re: Formatting a 3.5" HD diskette to 720K - broken?
Summary: Don't mess with those media sensing holes!
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:48:57 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.191809.18769@prism.poly.edu> ssnyder@prism.poly.edu (Sharon Snyder) writes:
>To format a 3.5 HD disk as DD (720k) cover up the extra hole (not
>the write protect stuff) and format it as 720K (I forget the
>command line right now).  It should work.
...

It will sort-of work.  The problem is, the drive will be using the
reduced write current suitable for the magnetic coating on a real DD
diskette, and not the higher current required for reliable writing on
the magnetically "harder" media of the HD diskette that you are using.

(The disaster potential is not quite as insideous here as it is for
people who try to get cheap HD disks by punching the extra hole.  They
have to contend with data that will decay away over time (6 months to a
year, perhaps).  Taping over the hole in a HD diskette will just cause
somewhat marginal writes -- whatever data actually makes it onto the
disk should be stable.)

Bob Nichols
AT&T Bell Laboratories
rnichols@ihlpm.ih.att.com
From: nevries@accucx.cc.ruu.nl (Nico E de Vries)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: IBM DOS 5.02 fixes also in MS-DOS 6.0???
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:42:01 GMT
Organization: Academic Computer Centre Utrecht

Are the fixes present in IBM-DOS 5.02 also going to be present in
MS-DOS 6.0. And what about features like ISO-font support, eject
support, APM etc?


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To get (many) ==> LOSSLESS DATA COMPRESSION SOURCES <== get lds_10.zip at 
garbo.uwasa.fi /pc/programming. Make files for Borland C are included. 
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: tpurves@sygnus.uucp (Timothy Purves)
Subject: Re: WARNING!:WATCH OUT SYSTEM PASSWORDS ARE ABOUT!)
Organization: None
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:45:57 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.113528.1609@dct.ac.uk> mcsbc2gw@dct.ac.uk writes:
>WARNING!
>If your computer has a setup program which you boot at Run-Time,
>and it gives you the option of System Security.
>
>Then Don't give it a password that you can't remember!
>I did and it gave me nothing but hell since I had to remove the battery
>from the CMOS. 
>This is a warning!


It's really great if you have someone that you do not like, you can set this
password for him/her and really make there day! ;-)

-- 

tpurves@sygnus (Timothy Purves)

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: kko@fraser.sfu.ca (Samuel Ko)
Subject: Re: Shareware for Disk De-fragmentation.
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 06:14:02 GMT

apa7u@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Alwyn Peter Allan) writes:

>I have heard that a shareware equivalent of Norton Utility's Speed
>Disk is out there. Does anyone know what it might me called, or where
>to FTP it.

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Program: DOG - Disk OrGanizer
Version: 3.20
Upload Date: 92/10/26
File: dog320.zip
Size: 54,611 bytes
Location: oak: /pub/msdos/dskutl
          garbo: /pc/diskutil (not the latest version) 
Status: Shareware, Free for personal use
Comment: Can remove fragmentations and rearrange files ...
Alternative: ORG (org30sw.zip) (oak only)
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Appendix 1: Mirror Sites
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Mirror Site             IP                 Directory
-----------             --                 ---------

I. Simtel Mirrors
wsmr-simtel20.army.mil  192.88.110.20      PD1: <MSDOS.WHATEVER>
oak.oakland.edu         141.210.10.117     /pub/msdos/whatever
wuarchive.wustl.edu     128.252.135.4      /mirror/msdos/whatever
ftp.uu.net              137.39.1.9         /systems/simtel20/msdos/whatever
nic.funet.fi            128.214.6.100      /pub/msdos/Simtel20-mirror/whatever
src.doc.ic.ac.uk        146.169.3.7        /pub/ibmpc/simtel20/whatever
nic.switch.ch           130.59.1.40        /mirror/msdos/whatever
archie.au               139.130.4.6        /micros/pc/simtel-20/whatever
nctuccca.edu.tw         140.111.3.21       /SIMTEL20/msdos/whatever

II. Garbo Mirrors
garbo.uwasa.fi          128.214.87.1       /pc/whatever
wuarchive.wustl.edu     128.252.135.4      /mirrors/garbo.uwasa.fi/whatever
archie.au               139.130.4.6        /micros/pc/garbo/pc/whatever
nctuccca.edu.tw         140.111.3.21       /Garbo/pc/whatever

BTW ... please use a mirror site near you and preferably during off-peak
        hours (6:00 pm - 6:00 am) ...

BTW2 ... best msdos Games site ... ftp.ulowell.edu (/msdos/Games)
         best Windows site ... ftp.cica.indiana.edu (/pub/pc/win3)
         best OS2 site ... ftp-os2.nmsu.edu (/pub/os2)
         best FAQs site ... pit-manager.mit.edu (/pub/usenet/news.answers)
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer)
Subject: Re: DOS 3.30 backup -> DOS 5.0 Restore?
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:38:21 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <Bxx6wt.G69@brunel.ac.uk> Brian.Milner@brunel.ac.uk (Brian D Milner) writes:
>
>I'm trying to restore a DOS 3.30 backup onto a PC running DOS 5.0.
>
>Anyone know any quick'n'easy fixes?

Try the third example restore command in the RESTORE section of
chapter 14...usually it's p 557.

Next question?

:>

-jen 
I'm not a MS-DOS support person anymore, nor do I play one on TV.

>
>="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="
>=Brian Milner, The Computer Centre, Brunel University, West London, UK   =
>=brian.milner@brunel.ac.uk |OH no! Look at all the washing up to be done!=
>="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="="
From: f51562@sakura.kudpc.kyoto-u.ac.jp (f51562)
Subject: Floppy format
Organization: Data Processing Center, Kyoto University, Kyoto Japan.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 06:47:42 GMT

Hello all,
I'd like to format floppy (3,5") on HP-workstation that I can use on 
this WS and IBM. I think that for this I need to format this floppy with 
appropriate parametres but I don't know all of them. How many bytes per 
sector, how many sectors per track, how many tracks per side, ...?
Thank you in advance 
		Martin Cekal
E-mail: f51562@sakura.kudpc.kyoto-u.ac.jp
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: RKSHUKLA@SUVM.SYR.EDU (Ravi Shukla)
Subject: Device driver for QIC-80 tape. Is there one?
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 12:51:33 EST

This seems like the place to ask this question. I am interested in reading
and writing directly on a QIC-80 tape. I called Colorado Jumbo people and
they basically said it wasn't possible. It is hard for me to believe. So I
turn to you. Is there a driver out there which will allow me to access the
tape as a tape drive. The objective is to read and write huge datasets directly
to the tape without having to write them first to hard drive and then backing
them up. Somebody must have solved the problem.
 
Thanks in advance.
Ravi Shukla
Newsgroups: in.pc,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,general,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: rollj@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jeffrey)
Subject: Ad-Lib Soundcard for sale!
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: Ad-lib
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: in
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 03:10:13 GMT

For Sale:

One Ad-lib Soundcard $30.00
Driver/Jukebox disk (3.5) included. Sorry but I don't have the manual. It is
very easy to install, works well and is very compatable with game software.
I am asking for $30.00 but will take best offer, so make an offer.
To reach me for information, or an offer to buy

Send E-Mail to: rollj@sage.cc.purdue.edu
or call: (317)495-1174 ask for Jeffrey

Thak You.

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: amichiel@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Allen J Michielsen)
Subject: Re: DOS 3.30 backup -> DOS 5.0 Restore?
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 11:01:37 EST

In monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> cosham@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Mark Cosham) writes:
>In <Bxx6wt.G69@b> Brian.Milner@brunel.ac.uk (Brian D Milner) writes:
>>I'm trying to restore a DOS 3.30 backup onto a PC running DOS 5.0.
>
>As far as I am aware, the 3.30 backups can be restored using DOS 5.


   DOS Backup is the worst single piece of software ever producted by IBM/MS.
The only thing that surprises me is that IBM/MS does NOT sell something to
justify such a bad move.
I have used DOS Backup successfully over a wide range of Dos versions and 
wide range of hardware without difficulty.  (Indicating that for some people
it will work, AND that I _do_ know how to use it.)  I also have had a wide
range _non_functional (it don't work) problems with DOS Backup over a wide
range of Dos versions and hardware.  The latest example is a classic, problem.
My new (ish) employer had paid a 3rd party service company to come in for 10
years on a monthly basis, now they need one of these restored, but the system
which made the backup refuses to acknowledge any dos backup disk.  Classic.

al