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From: fenner@cmf.nrl.navy.mil (Fenestro)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Initialization problem.
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:49:30 GMT
Organization: NRL Connection Machine Facility, Washington, DC

In article <wkgmoB1w164w@cityzen.UUCP> carolyns@cityzen.UUCP (Carolyn's Fingers) writes:
>When a USER logs off, it just gets to either [dropping connection] or 

If it freezes at [dropping connection], then it's waiting for the modem to
deassert CD.  Make sure you have the modem set to have CD follow the presence
of carrier on the line (AT&C1 in most Hayes-compatible modems, switch setting
in some).

If it freezes at "Calls:xx", it's waiting for the modem to acknowledge the
initialization.  I ended up putting a timeout and retry in the code since
my modem sometimes doesn't listen the first time Waffle tries to initialize
it.

  Bill
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From: vikki@precipice.chi.il.us (Victoria Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: chrome ?
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 08:30:35 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Welch Research, McHenry IL, USA

I got 1.65 installed last night and it is perking along just fine, but
I was trying to figure out where "chrome" is to be found.  Third party
? for sure not included in the distribution archive.

Any help appreciated.

TIA, Take care, Vikki.

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From: cjohnst@presoft.com (Chris Johnston)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: T-Blazer misconnection
Keywords: supra, connect, uucp, telebit
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 23:16:09 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Presoft Architects

system@micromed.com (Duane Davis) writes:

> a-dent@somenode.uucp (Bryan Hannahs) writes:
> 
> > system@micromed.com (Duane Davis) writes:
> > 
> > > a-dent@somenode.uucp (Bryan Hannahs) writes:
> > > > system@micromed.com (Duane Davis) writes:
> > > > 
> > > > > a-dent@somenode.uucp (Bryan Hannahs) writes:
> > > > > > Also, does anybody have a v.32 modem other than a Telebit or USR th
> > > > > > WILL get along with a Telebit?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I use a Supra v.32bis FaxModem to call into a Telebit. The Supra cost
> > > > > $249 +tax+shipping under the Sysops special.
> > > > 
> > > > Would you happen to know which chipset the Supra is using?
> > > 
> > > It uses the Rockwell chipset. 
> > > 
> > > > Also, you
> > > > didn't specify, but I assume you mean you're using the Supra to get a
> > > > successful uucp transfer from the Telebit.
> > > 
> > > That's correct. I call my host hourly and have never had any problems 
> > > connecting.
> > 
> > Hmm...is it a T2500 you're calling or one of the newer Telebit modems?
> > I'm using a Twincom 14.4/DF, which also uses the Rockwell chipset. Were
> > there any special configuration tricks you had to deal with?
> 
> I have no idea. All I know is that it's a Telebit.
> 
> I can only connect at v.32, my hosts modem doesn't support v.32bis. The only
> problem I had was with timeouts waiting for the modems to finish handshaking.
> Modem settings are practicaly at factory configuration. I didn't change much.
I'll tell you that getting the supra v.32bis to connect
to anything but itself is a challenge.  It's great for faxes and
stuff, but for serious work, get a real modem.  Hayes, or Intel,
or my new found favorite, the Practical Peripherals 14400FXSA.

You can pick one up on the BBS special for $250.

Chris
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: pdivine@unixg.ubc.ca (Patrick Devine)
Subject: Palindrome
Summary: Palindrome checking program 
Keywords: ftp palindrome
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 02:12:08 GMT

I have just placed a file called PALIN.ZIP on the halcyon.com ftp archive
which is a palindrome checking program I wrote for Waffle as a test of my
abilities using C and Waffle.

It's a pretty silly program, but then again, so is waffle.

I wrote it in Turbo C++ v2.0, and tested it with Gnu C 2.2.2 .. remeber when
unzipping the file on a unix system to strip the ^M's out of it by using
the -a command with unzip.

Included in PALIN.ZIP are three files:  PALIN.EXE, PALIN.DOC and PALIN.C ..
All are fairly self explanatory.

I'm also working on a Paper, Rock, Scissors program which actually WORKS, but
the logic is messed up for some reason and I have to debug it .. (it's been
taking me a while).  I will keep posting silly utilities / games if there is
enough interest.
 


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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: pdivine@unixg.ubc.ca (Patrick Devine)
Subject: Re: Questions from a Greenie.
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 10:36:51 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.050715.4943@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> by355@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael P. Otto) writes:
>
>Or you could use my DoorMaster utility, which will allow you to create
>exit files for 50+ different BBS packages <grin>.  Using the /parms mode
>of DM, you can pass all the necessary % codes in the extern file and
>DM will take it from there.  
> 

Great, but where do we get it?  I have a copy of DoorMaster, but it doesn't
support Waffle.



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From: ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: pcelm301 & Waffle
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 15:50:14 PDT
Organization: Ian Justman's pitiful excuse for an AT clone

brewich!donal@lobster.hou.tx.us (Donal) writes:

> gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM (Gess Shankar) writes:
> 
> > I am assuming that there is a way that PCElm can be made to read the
> > mail files created by Waffle in ..\usr\username directory as username.nnn
> > were nnn is the sequence number.
> > 
> > I have not been able to figure out how to make PCElm read the mail files
> > as mail in the mailbox. Is one supposed to cat all the mail files into
> > one text file, as PCElm seems to be expecting all mail to be in one single
> > file?
> 
> get e4w100.zip from halcyon.com
> This is a group of batches and some .exe's that transform waffle mail to
> PCElm mail and vice versa.

It might be better to get it from my site for a couple of
reasons:

1.  I wrote it.

2.  I'm doing a few slight revisions to the documentation pretty
soon because newer versions of some of the software I mentioned
have recently been released and a newer version of PCElm is
pending.  And I will make mention that the smaller utilities
mentioned are available from my site.

To get e4w100.zip, send the following message to
mail-server@ijpc.UUCP:

get e4w100.zip
From: kevin@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: TWO problems ...  please help!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 09:24:50 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Waffle BBS, Clive IA USA, +1 515 226 2156

mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) writes:

> rsingh@goliath.Stanford.EDU (   raj) writes:
> > I am using waffle to transfer mail form a unix machine to a pc/286,
> > with Taylor-uucp on the unix machine.
> > 
> > PC makes the call ALL THE TIME.
> >  
> >   1.  All the email transfer fine, no matter what size, from unix
> >       to pc, i.e., receive works ok in waffle-uucico.
> > 
> >   2.  When transfering from pc to unix, i.e., send-mode,  only very small
> >       files get sent;  for all others, waffle-uucico aborts with
> >       bad checksum error.
> 
> I've got a not unrelated problem.  Taking FOSSIL speed down to 9600 and
> giving UUCP 7 windows made the cps rate leap up by 200 on files received.
> Unfortunately, it leads to absolutely dismal performance on files sent;
> uucico just drops dead periodically and stops sending.  It eventually
> recovers, but it seems to spend seconds at a time not sending anything.
> Anyone have any suggestions?

No suggestions, similar problem.

16:58:07.47 (3) received D.iowegiBC1726 (107519 bytes, 218 cps)
17:06:19.05 (3) sent 1705.DAT (62137 bytes, 135 cps)

Those are from one connection to one unix system. I talk to
two unix systems and the other I see no degradation in the
cps on a send. This connection is at 3 windows, 2400 baud.


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From: fenner@cmf.nrl.navy.mil (William C Fenner)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: The Wall for Waffle
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:20:50 GMT
Organization: NRL Connection Machine Facility, Washington, DC

Did anyone get this to unzip properly?  When I uudecoded it and tried
unzipping, I got

  Exploding: notes.txt     Bad CRC 0804513c  (should be 592aa6cc)
  Exploding: wall.com      Bad CRC 7ee2a255  (should be a564e54e)

   Bill
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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: ap429@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jerome Grimmer)
Subject: Re: Waffle File Server
Reply-To: ap429@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jerome Grimmer)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 17:52:51 GMT


In a previous article, murph@buscard.fidonet.org (Brian Murphy) says:

[stuff deleted]
>
>Jeepers, man, I don't mind registering my software and all that but I 
>think Birdsong's gone off the deep end with this one!  I'm not a 
>programmer so I wouldn't have the foggiest idea on how to modify the 
>software but I do wonder about my sysoping skills now and again.  I can 
>just see me screwing something up and somehow somebody gets ahold of my 
>registered version of WFS and this BirdDog coming after me for 
>$147,800.00 smackeroos!  Lordy, would that ruin my day or WHAT?!?  :-)
>
>                                - - - Murph

Yep, that's part of the reason I am going to use VMS when I get the Waffle side
of my BBS up (it should be up shortly after the fall semester starts), and yes
I plan to register VMS when I get the spare $$ (spare $$, what's that?). 
Besides, I don't want someone to come after me cause I modified his program
to suit my own purposes and didn't release it to anyone (though I feel that
releasing the modifications themselves, not the modded program, is ethical).
looks to me like VMS will do everything WFS will do, and then some. (I'll be
using VMS to run a few mailing lists).  Unfortunately my top speed is 2400,
soon to have MNP5 capability :) so I won't be making a long-distance connect,
I'll be connecting to a friend of mine's system and receiving mail and news 
feed from him.  Watch for more info. :)

In case anyone cares, my BBS number is +1 618 549-5351
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From: root@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick   )
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle/Coherent?
Keywords: coherent
Date: 23 Jul 92 06:09:49 GMT
Organization: Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA

elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) writes:

> aaron@spectrx.saigon.com (Aaron Anderer - System) writes:
> 
> > elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) writes:
> >
> > > Was wondering if anyone has successfully compiled/installed/run Waffle un
> > > Mark Williams Coherent?
> 
> Well, I'm aware of that, so I guess I'm still wondering if anyone has *done*
> it.  Coherent isn't a bad idea, since it's a hundred dollar investment, but
> another $150 for Waffle isn't such a good idea until I can confirm that someo
> has tried it.

I'm aware of two attempts. Both were aborted. One switched to SCO Unix, the
other went to OS/2.

Coherent is an excellent training ground for someone who's never seen unix.
But as a utilitarian OS, it leaves a lot to be desired. I suspect that if
enough effort, tweaking and replacement of utilities occurred, that someone
might make a pretty good system of Coherent. The problem is, once done, it
would still be Coherent.

Better to bite the bullet --if you want true unix-- and go with 386BSD or
even linux. If you want little customizing and work on the initial install,
then go with SCO Unix, Interactive, or one of those.

If you're looking for plug and chug, and want to do a couple of things at
once, then try OS/2, Desqview, or even Windows along with the DOS version
of Waffle. You can run it in a window just fine.

It all depends on what you want. But I'd suggest against Coherent.

Just my $0.02.

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From: Ralph Sims <ralphs@remote.halcyon.com>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: 1.65 folder problem....
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 10:03:32 PDT
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service

cybrspc!wwiv!52-500@cs.umn.edu (system#freds.cojones.com (George W. Hayduke) #52 writes:

> On another note, where does one find the Chrome beast?

One doesn't.  One waits.  One is used to waiting.  Good things come
to one who waits.
From: mick@wanda.ob.open.de (Michael Reichelt)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: beta10
Date: 27 Jul 92 06:42:06 GMT
Organization: A Fish.

Hi,

aaron@spectrx.saigon.com (Aaron Anderer - System) writes:

> I just got beta 10 and installed it.  Looks a lot like beta 9, I can't notice 
> any differences.  Tom what are the differences?
> 
I got beta 10 too, and I found the following differences :

  - Now 38400 baud connections work properly. In beta9 I allways got the
    wrong baud rate (about -27xxx in the callers file).
  - SYSMAN.EXE now lists users with ther access level, etc...

Thats what I found out and what was important to me.
So the change to beta 10 was good.

There may be some more changes but I don't know them, lets wait if Tom
says anything about it.

Michael.


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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: vince@halcyon.com (Vince Skahan)
Subject: Re: Waffle File Server
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:07:24 GMT


In comp.bbs.waffle you write:

>vince@halcyon.com (Vince Skahan) writes:

>Let's remind all of us, Vince, that you waxed poetic about WFS at
>release 0.9.4. That you advertized availability of BBSTEVIE via WFS
>at your site on alt.bbs.waffle several times.

I certainly did wax poetic about WFS.  It's a nice program that works
well. I advertised the stuff available at home to get some load on the system
to see how my system, netwrok connection, and WFS could handle it.

It's the license terms (and what I read as implied threats and potential
boobytraps) in the new version that I complained about and resolved in my
particular case (as a potential customer) by voting with my wallet and not 
agreeing to the (IMHO) simply incredible wording of the license agreement.

You may choose to word your license stuff any way you wish just as I may
choose to go elsewhere.  No problem for me.

>Let the world also know that you never registered your use of WFS,
>nor paid the paltry registration fee either. I can imagine that you
>have not bothered to reward the author of VMS112 either.

You are correct that I never registered WFS.  My messing around with it
to see how/if it works, if my site could handle the load, if my feed site
was going to complain, etc. didn't seem to make it worthwhile to me at the time.

I also ran ASER for quite some time for the same tests.
I have fired VMS up for testing and think it's also ok and indeed may be more
powerful for what I want to accomplish.

If I decide to keep the fileserver up under DOS for 'real' (which is still a
very open question), I'll register whatever product I use if I can deal with
the implications of agreeing to the wording of the license terms.

I can't deal with the terms of your product, so I'm walking...

Good luck selling your fine products...

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: v1.65
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 00:31:18 GMT

murph@buscard.fidonet.org (Brian Murphy) writes:

>Gee, this is swell!  Everytime I post a question, I get a couple of mail 
>responses.  So much nicer than in FidoNet.  Anyone familiar with that 
>tragic comedy of a network?  :-)

Intimately.  Use it every day and gate the comp.os.linux and other
Fidonet echoes in and out of usenet.  One of the best amateur networks
in the world.

>1.  Has Waffle v1.65 been released yet?  I see it's being used by several 
>    but I don't see it around anywhere.

It's not released yet.  Real Soon Now.

>2.  What are you doing for security on your system?  Suppose you don't like
>    some geek and want to keep him off your system for some reason.  In

Place a file called 'waffle' in the user's home directory with the
single line 'term wolverine' in it.

Or, use the user login shell in the password file and have it exit
when they sign in.

Or, give them access level 0 with a daily online time on 3 minutes
and one call.

Of course, they can always call back in and signup under another userid.

Or ignore them.
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From: mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Colors settings!!
Date: 20 Jul 92 13:10:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: slic.15o8NB2w165w
Organization: Muth Valley Seismic Control District, San Diego, CA / Node 2

jim@jimmc.chi.il.us (Jim McNicholas) writes in part:

> O.K> all you waffle heads!!
> here's a question for ya!! I have RTFM and all it says about the static 
> color settings are for a monochrome monitor the settings are... well I 

I'm using 106 12 112 in the static line.  Although I'm not overly
pleased with this setup, it was too cumbersome to test and rerun
waffle repeatedly looking for the "right" colors.  Anyone else?

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From: fenner@cmf.nrl.navy.mil (William C Fenner)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: beta10
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:27:55 GMT
Organization: NRL Connection Machine Facility, Washington, DC

In article <4uNeoB1w165w@spectrx.saigon.com> aaron@spectrx.saigon.com (Aaron Anderer - System) writes:
>I just got beta 10 and installed it.  Looks a lot like beta 9, I can't notice 
>any differences.  Tom what are the differences?

% diff b9/docs/history.doc b10/docs/history.doc
6c6
< Version 1.65 - 01-Mar-1992
---
> Version 1.65 - 01-Jul-1992
111a112,121
> extern /reload flag to cause account refresh on return to waffle
> extern /reset to re-enable COMM driver after running evil externs
> added ../text/nofiles for alternate file access message
> display ../text/nojoin when trying to use NEW without a JOIN file
> in signup file, *REQUIRE is equal to *ASK but an answer is required
> files I command to list info, displays ../text/filestat
> connect string accepted for certain v.23 modems
> in signup file, *COMMENT to fill comment field of user record
> check for malconfigured signup file
> extern/_system "login" line executed if present with any normal login
188a199,202
> support for | bounce in uucp/paths file
> stats arbitron and stats usage
> some incoming fax hardware is now recognized, runs _system:fax
> batch -g to set grade of jobs queued

The docs tell all.  RTFM.

  Bill

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From: fenner@cmf.nrl.navy.mil (William C Fenner)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Some Problems....
Date: 24 Jul 92 19:46:30 GMT
Organization: NRL Connection Machine Facility, Washington, DC

In article <mick02044920623215415@wanda.ob.open.de> mick@wanda.ob.open.de (Michael Reichelt) writes:
>I did all that, I use ATX6, I locked the BNU to 38400 baud, I told waffle 
>that the port is locked...

And it still reports baud rates as -27xx?  Strange.  I'll look at this some
more.

>> The Perl program is available from archive-server@hogbbs.scol.pa.us as
>> ibm\bbs\pwpl165.zip .
>> 
>What is the perl program for ?

The perl program allows you to access the 1.65 password file, and the .ZIP
file includes the perl script I use to make a nice, 2-lines-per-user listing
of my password file.  Of course, the format of the output is based on how
I run my BBS, and parts of it probably aren't relevant to yours, but since
it's perl, it's relatively easy to change the report format.

  Bill
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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: vince@halcyon.com (Vince Skahan)
Subject: Re: Waffle File Server
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:41:03 GMT

murph@buscard.fidonet.org (Brian Murphy) writes:

>Say, ummmm, has anyone taken a look at the Waffle File Server by 
>Birdsong?  Doesn't that look a little too scary to be worth it?

>I mean, those large sums of money mentioned in the docs for modifying 
>things, allowing registered versions to get around, etc.  I'm talking 
>about those sums over $100,000.00!!

>Jeepers, man, I don't mind registering my software and all that but I 
>think Birdsong's gone off the deep end with this one!  I'm not a 
>programmer so I wouldn't have the foggiest idea on how to modify the 
>software but I do wonder about my sysoping skills now and again.  I can 
>just see me screwing something up and somehow somebody gets ahold of my 
>registered version of WFS and this BirdDog coming after me for 
>$147,800.00 smackeroos!  Lordy, would that ruin my day or WHAT?!?  :-)

nobody in their right mind would sign anything like the garbage
that came with WFS112.zip.  

I got so pissed off when I read that stuff that I not only went and
deleted it from the system (too bad, next month when I turn the second
phone line on and leave the system up, I was gonna register it)
that I deleted the .zip file too...what nerve...

Save yourself the blood pressure...try 'vms112.zip' (V-mail).
It's every bit as powerful with respect to mail based file serving
as WFS, and it adds incredible functionality with setting up mailing lists,
automatic file responses to mail to a specific request, etc.

Far more powerful...at least as easy to use (I like it better),
and the author has a clue.



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