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From: sklar@i88.isc.com (Robert Sklar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att
Subject: Re: 6300 keyboards
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:06:42 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Interactive Systems Corporation, Naperville,IL

In article <92224.190642U4400@wvnvm.wvnet.edu> <U4400@wvnvm.wvnet.edu> writes:
>In article <1992Aug11.021729.3420@cbnewsc.cb.att.com>, jlt@cbnewsc.cb.att.com
>(jeffrey.r.light) says:
>>
>>>>I have a friend with a 6300 with a broken keyboard.  Is it possible
>>>>to use a regular PC/AT type keyboard on a 6300?  If so, can someone
>>>
>>> In anycase, Keytronic makes a keyboard that is compatable with the 6300
>>> runs close to $200 though, but I think it is worth it even on any machines
>>> whose keyboards are still functioning.  It has a *far* superior layout.
>>
>> SAVE YOUR MONEY, I would not spend that much money on a PC6300.  The cost
>>of $200 for a Keytronics keyboard could be used towards a new (or used)
>>the keyboard on the 6300 are cured with a simple removal of the key switches.
>>I have cleaned the contact areas on my keyboard and everything works again.
>>Unless you dropped the keyboard, most problems are just dirty keys.
>
>I agree that the problem is just dirty keys - the 6300 you just pop off
>the top and push together two little tabes and the key assembly comes
>right out for easy cleaning.  If you really do want a new keyboard, we
>have a Northgate Ultra that cost us $119 (three years ago when the 6300
>was worth more) that we use on one machine that works fine.  Just
>specify the 6300 connector when you order from Northgate.  $200 is most
>defnately not worth it, since I just bought an old 6300 for a friend for
>only $180 complete.
>|
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>|

     The Northgate keyboard is an especially attractive option.  It has a
very good action with a tactile feel.  The keyboard has an 8-position DIP
switch behind its logo.  Four bits are for emulation, and four for options.
The emulations include IBM/XT, IBM/AT, AT&T/Olivetti/Xerox XT equiv, etc.
The options include reversing the CAPS-LOCK and ALT keys (they even include
extra keytops and a keytop puller for this option.

     The keyboard also has plug-in coil cords available in various formats.
These include IBM/PC/AT 5-pin DIN, IBM/PS2 mini-din, and AT&T DB-9.  This
means that you are not making an unrecoverable investment in the 6300.  This
is a great keyboard that will work on almost any PC system ever made.

     By the way, I have no connection with Northgate other than the fact that
I own 3 of these keyboards and love them.  


				Robert Sklar
				Interactive Systems Corp.
				Naperville, IL
				sklar@i88.isc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att
From: tr@samadams.princeton.edu (Tom Reingold)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Termcap fpr AT&T's 630 terminal
Organization: Noo Joizy, USA
Distribution: na
Date: 20 Aug 92 02:51:57 GMT

ilan343@violet.berkeley.edu (Geraldo Veiga) writes:

$ Does anybody have a termcap entry for the 630 that works under BSD
$ 4.3?  This is one of those multi-window terminals, I would be satisfied
$ with a terminal description that works with a 24 line window.  Right
$ now I am using a 630-24 description translated from the terminfo
$ entry in a SVR4 system, but "vi" doesn't work very well with it.

Try this.

dmd630|630|att630|ATT630|630DMD|630dmd|630MTG|AT&T 630 windowing terminal:\
	:am:da:db:ms:bs:co#80:it#8:li#60:lm#0:\
	:up=\E[A:do=\E[B:nd=\E[C:le=\b:UP=\E[%dA:DO=\E[%dB:RI=\E[%dC:\
	:LE=\E[%dD:cm=\E[%i%d;%dH:ho=\E[H:bt=\E[Z:\
	:sf=\n:sr=\EM:SF=\E[%dS:SR=\E[%dT:\
	:us=\E[4m:ue=\E[m:so=\E[7m:se=\E[m:mr=\E[7m:mh=\E[2m:mb=\E[5m:\
	:me=\E[m:\
	:ce=\E[K:cd=\E[J:cl=\E[H\E[J:\
	:dc=\E[P:dl=\E[M:al=\E[L:DC=\E[%dP:DL=\E[%dM:AL=\E[%dL:\
	:ic=\E[@:IC=\E[%d@:im=:ei=:\
	:sc=\E7:rc=\E8:i2=\E[m:rs=\Ec:\
	:pf=\E[?4i:po=\E[?5i:\
	:kb=\b:kC=\E[2J:kh=\E[H:ku=\E[A:kd=\E[B:kr=\E[C:kl=\E[D:
--
        Tom Reingold
        tr@samadams.princeton.edu  OR  ...!princeton!samadams!tr
        "Warning: Do not drive with Auto-Shade in place.  Remove
        from windshield before starting ignition."
From: friedl@mtndew.Tustin.CA.US (Stephen Friedl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att
Subject: Anybody heard of "Innovative Systems, Inc." ?
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:06:49 GMT
Organization: Steve's Personal machine / Tustin, CA

Hi again, folks,

     A new customer is in trouble with their accounting package
hosing up, and the VAR that sold them the system having gone out
of business.  The software is from Innovative Systems, Inc.
(ISI), but there seems to be no indication of where they are or
how to contact them.

     I am looking for any clues on how to contact these folks
so my customer can get things back together, or (better yet)
a VAR that works with this package so I can put them in touch.

     They are running on AT&T 6386WGS hardware.

     Any leads *gratefully* accepted.

     Stephen

P.S. - Where is my UNIX products directory when I need it?

-- 
Stephen J Friedl | Software Consultant | Tustin, CA |     +1 714 544-6561
3b2-kind-of-guy  | I speak for me ONLY |   KA8CMY   | uunet!mtndew!friedl
 
We should re-arm the Russians as long as they promise to take out Washington
From: KENSMITH@BNR.CA (Ken  Smith, K.G.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.proteon
Subject: SUBSCRIBE
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:22:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

SUBSCRIBE P4200 Ken Smith

Newsgroups: comp.sys.proteon
From: fred@bradley.bradley.edu (Fred Jaggi)
Subject: bridging OSI
Summary: want to bridge OSI
Keywords: bridging, OSI
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 20:53:14 GMT

I would like to bridge OSI traffic on our ethernet with two Proteon
routers here at Bradley (a CNX500 and a p4100+).  We have the OSI
protocol routing software, but do we need to buy the ASRT bridging
software as well?  or instead of?  

What is the best way to attack this?

thanks for your help.

Fred Jaggi
-- 
Frederick Jaggi          fred@bradley.bradley.edu         Bradley University

Newsgroups: comp.sys.proteon
From: rholbert@coffee.lerc.nasa.gov (Rick Holbert)
Subject: Proteon mib (FDDI stats)
Reply-To: gstewart@kestrel.lerc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA-Lewis Research Center
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:57:18 GMT

I was wondering if anyone has had any success using SNMP and the Proteon 
mib to gather FDDI information from p4200 routers. I have tried doing this
at software levels 9.0 through our current level of 11.0d and have problems 
of the routers crashing and/or rebboting when I give it a SNMP request from
the FDDI portion of their mib. I initially contacted Proteon support in April
about the problem and was always told that it will be fixed in the next release.
Proteon is not offering much assistance in solving the problem and I just 
wanted to know if anyone else has the same concerns about this not working.

-- 
********************************************************************************
Rick Holbert               Sverdrup Technologies                  (216)433-9852
                        rholbert@coffee.lerc.nasa.gov
NASA Lewis Research Center  21000 Brookpark Rd. MS 142-1   Cleveland, Oh. 44135
Newsgroups: comp.sys.proteon
From: larry@acts.uucp (Larry Palmer)
Subject: Re: Proteon mib (FDDI stats)
Organization: Active Software Inc.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 00:24:54 GMT

rholbert@coffee.lerc.nasa.gov (Rick Holbert) writes:

>I was wondering if anyone has had any success using SNMP and the Proteon 
>mib to gather FDDI information from p4200 routers. I have tried doing this
>at software levels 9.0 through our current level of 11.0d and have problems 
>of the routers crashing and/or rebboting when I give it a SNMP request from
>the FDDI portion of their mib. 

There was such a bug in release 11 of the 4200, which I'm told has been
fixed in the current release (12.0).  I'd recommend trying that if you
can.


-- 
Larry Palmer 508-266-1334 (v/f)           |   Active Software, Inc.
uunet!acts!larry, or                      |   20 Ethan Allen Drive
larry%acts@uunet.uu.net                   |   Acton, MA 01720
From: a644690c@edinboro.edu ("Adam J. Conover")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: SpartaDOS
Date: 12 Aug 92 22:20:37 GMT

TO: Amos Jackson,

I don't think that I ever thanked you for sending me those dir listings.
Well... Thanks!

I am, however, still confused about an earlier post of yours.  I don't
have it handy but you seemed to imply that you were using PROKEY with
the X cart.  Is there a new version of Prokey that works with SDX?


TO: ALL

I also heard rumor about an improved COMMAND.COM (I can't remember if it
was a new .COM for SD3.2 or a replacement for the SDX one).  Have you ever
heard anything about this?

Talk to ya' latter.......

Peace,
-Adam Conover.
    a644690c@edinboro.edu.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: ar630@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kevin White)
Subject: RS232 Interface Needed!
Reply-To: ar630@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kevin White)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 02:12:24 GMT


Does anybody know where I can get ANY sort of RS232 interface for the
Atari?  Just about the only requirement is that it can work with BobTerm.

Thanks!

Kev
-- 
Kevin White      Internet:ar630@cleveland.freenet.edu
"The things you say, your purple prose just gives you away.
The things you say.  You're Unbelieveable."
           ---EMF, "Unbeleieveable"
From: moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: 800XL as a server
Date: 16 Aug 92 19:52:21 GMT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

ab588@yfn.ysu.edu (joseph sabatino) writes:

> 800 ataris....requires 64k not 48k.

Hang on a sec.  I've never been 100% sure about my 1200xl.  Does it have 
48k or 64k RAM?  The booklet that came with it said "64k, but 16k of it 
can only be used by special programs" or something like that.  Perhaps 
THIS is the reason that my 1200xl don't work!?    Hmm..   

"Be seeing you!"
___________________________ ||| __
PhBill: Bill Kendrick      / | \
moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
__________________________________
                   August 16, 1992
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: ab588@yfn.ysu.edu (joseph sabatino)
Subject: Re: Disk controllers
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 22:34:20 GMT


>Ok, ok, I've had enough! Just someone please tell me what non-PBI disk
>controller works the fastest and most efficently with a DS-DD IBM, 34-pin
>drive which can give 360K. Also, is there one that can give me more than 360K??
>                        Itay c.
 
Get your hands on an XF551 controller and you can run C.C.S.'s XF Upgrade 
either a single drive conversion which converts the 5 1/4" drive 360k 
to 3 1/2" 760k or the dual drive conversion which is both drives in 
the same box.
XF single drv.conv w/Sony 3 1/2 drv.= $99.95 sh.$8
XF single w/o drv.= $59.95 sh.$5
XF Dual Drv conv. w/Sony 3 1/2 drv.= $139.95 sh.$8
XF Dual Drive conv. w/o drv. $79.95 sh.$5
 
Address:
Computer Software Services
P.O. Box 17660
Rochester, N.Y. 14617
-- 
Joe Sabatino-->ab588@yfn.ysu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: bp112@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven C. Lin)
Subject: Re: Math Progs for the 8-bit
Reply-To: bp112@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven C. Lin)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 05:10:09 GMT


In a previous article, frankh@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Frank Hamlin) says:

>Or you could let BASIC do it for you, and the program becomes trivial.
>About 5 years ago my son was learning to graph, so I wrote such a program
>that finds mins, max, differentiates, finds mins & max of the
>differential, and plots the equation.  I haven't done anything with the
>Atari in over 3 years, so I do not know if I still have this.  If I find
>it, I will post the program.
>
I too have written programs that find the DEFINITE integral and/or NUMERIC
derivative of a function at a certain point.  But, from what I have seen
of Derive/Mathematica type programs (which the original post refered to),
they are able to find the INDEFINITE integral and/or the indefinite (is
that the right term?) derivitive, that is, the function that expresses the
int. or der., not just the answer... But if all you want is the numeric
answers, or a function grapher, yes, Atari BASIC will do the job with not
very much problem at all!

Steve Lin
bp112@cleveland.freenet.edu
--
From: lenn@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jody Lenn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: 8-Bit STUFF (HW & SW & Books) FOR SALE!
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:40:12 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center



Package  Deals  Can  Be  Arranged.

I have the following hardware for Sale:


          1  1050 Disk Drive w/Power Supply and SIO cable      $45 
          Works Great!!   w/Dos 2.5 or Mydos your choice

          Xetec Grafix AT Printer Interface   $15

Books:  Mapping the Atari (w XL/XE maps)  $7
        Computes Atari Graphics  $6
        Computes Second and Third Books of Atari  $5 each
        Analog Compendium  $5 (lots of type in programs)
        Creative Atari   $5
 

I have the following program disks for sale:

          Dragonriders of Pern   $7.00

          Dimension X         $7.00

          Kampffgruppe:    $13.00

          MULE             $15
         
          Alternate Reality: Dungeon - $12.00

          Jupiter Mission 1999 (4 disks!)  -  $12.00

          Napolean in Russia         - $10.00

          Music Const. Set  -  $8.00

          Pinball Const. Set - $8.00

          Blue Team Bridge   -  $7.00

          Transylvania   -   $7.00  (no docs)

          Zaxxon            -  $5.00  (800 only, FIX-XL, translator don't 
                                       work!!!!!!!)  (no docs)

          Temple of Apshai   -  $5.00

          Suspended         -  $3.00  (Original, lost docs)

          Mail Order Monsters  - $7.00

          Super Huey           -  $7.00

          Page Designer        -$8.00

          Deep Blue C w/mathlib  - $12.00


         All items have docs unless otherwise mentioned.


          
                   Buyer pays shipping on all items. 
                                

                                                        JODY LENN
                                                     lenn@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
Xref: sparky comp.sys.atari.8bit:4223 rec.games.video:16996
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit,rec.games.video
Subject: Wanted: Atari Age #1
From: omf@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu (Oscar Fowler)
Date: 15 AUG 92 11:50:29    
Reply-To: omf@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Sirius Cybernetics Corporation
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4  

Hi folks,

I received a post card from an Atari user who wanted the first issue
of Atari Age magazine.  Unfortunately, I had just sold my set.  In hopes
of giving this person a bit of help, I thought I'd post his address
here and maybe one of you would like to sell him the issue (or a copy?).
Here it is:

Andy Floyd
114 Euclid Ave.
Minerva, OH 44657-1519

Appearantly he can read net news, but has no posting ability.

Please DO NOT mail replies to me, since I do not know Andy at all.

Thanks!


#############################################################################

               "If you can't lick'em, put 'em on with a big piece of tape."

Oscar Fowler
omf@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu
From: JJMCWILL@MTUS5.CTS.MTU.EDU (Jeff McWilliams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Math programs on atari 8bit
Date: 18 Aug 92 05:02:39 GMT

Bill,

What you described is what I was trying to get at, but since I've never
done it myself, only read about, I was less clear how to explain
the method used.  You were right on.


Jeff McWilliams    ---->  jjmcwill@mtus5.cts.mtu.edu
jjmcwill@mtus5.mtu.edu    jjmcwill@mtus5.mtu.edu.BITNET
From: phbill@cyberden.uucp (Bill Kendrick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Old Software
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 12:52:02 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

crow@coos.dartmouth.edu (Preston F. Crow) writes:

> As I understand it, that is not correct.  "Public domain" is a legal
> term meaning not copyrighted.  Shareware is typically copyrighted, but
> can be freely copied by anyone even though it is not public domain.

THAT sounds more like it.  Shareware is supposedly copiable AS LONG as 
the (C) is included and none of the stuff is tampered with. (oh!, and of 
course the author's name stays the same!  I made myself a groovy version 
of TurboBASIC XL anvn
and added my name and lowercase (ie- "Ready" not
"READY")

"Be seeing you!"
___________________________ ||| __
PhBill: Bill Kendrick      / | \
moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
__________________________________
                   August 15, 1992
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: ilaskey@cix.compulink.co.uk (Iain Laskey)
Subject: Star Wars - more thoughts
Reply-To: ilaskey@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 09:12:25 +0000

I seem to remember an article in one of the 8bit mags like ANALOG
or whatever, did an article about the use of the 800 & Lucasfilm.

It stated that the 800 was used to catalogue the sound effects and
was occasionally used to *provide* the sound effects, although they
were never used raw, the 8bit voices were used in conjunction with
other soundsand audio trickery. This was around 83 so I guess it would
be relating to Return of the Jedi.



 +---------------------------------------------------+---------------+
 | I don't want to start any blasphemous rumours,    | Atari ST user |
 | But I think that God's got a sick sense of humour | Unix user     |
 |                                 - ML Gore         |               |
 +---------------------------------------------------+               |
 | DOS sucks - Give me Unix!                         +---------------+
 | ilaskey@cix.compulink.co.uk                       | Iain R Laskey |
 +---------------------------------------------------+---------------+


Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: aj008@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Aaron M. Barnes)
Subject: Looking for New 7800
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 06:10:58 GMT


Thats right.

If anyone knows where I can get one for around $30 or less,let me 
know.
There was a local closeout store here in Cleveland that had them 
for $29.99 and it came with 5 game carts!
Also,the local dollar store has most of the titles released for the
7800 for a buck a piece-new in shrnk rap and all!

Well,Just had to tell you all this so you wouldt go paying high p
rices for USED carts.

I guess i should snap up all they have and sell them here for $20
each;-)

Too bad I didnt pick up a 7800 when they had them-they sold out.


Thanks.
-- 
Aaron Barnes
aj008@cleveland.freenet.edu
Part 15 will take over broadcasting one frequency at a time!
Howard Phillips for President!
From: JACS!Dr._Jolts@mast.citadel.moundst.mn.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: (none)
Date: 16 Aug 92 21:26:00 GMT
Organization: Jersey Atari Computer Society - USA
X-mailer: Stadel 3.4a-227
X-Spam-content: irrelevant

I have two projects that I can not complete due to lack of information. One 
is what I would think would be of interest to any 8-bit user that is into 
graphics, including APAC and Colrview. 
  I have come up with a way to capture images (full color RGB) in 1/60th 
second. Actually, it would be 1 or 3 7680 byte images. The process would be 
to hook up a composite video source to the video digitizer (similar to 
Computer Eyes), strip off the h-sync and v-sync signals for timing, send the 
raw video signal through a Chroma demodulator to a 4 bit flash ADC. The pixel
 data would be stored in a high speed 32k x 8bit SRAM on-board the digitizer. 
The timing, communication and control stuff could be controlled by a 65xxx 
CPU running at >=4MHz. The control program/OS for it could be written in 
MAC/65 and stored on EEPROM or similar device. Communications would be in 
parallel via the 2 joystick ports using pins 1-4 on both for data, pins 5&6 
on both for control handshaking and signaling. Finally, the data would be 
clocked into the computer RAM for storage on disc, printing and/or 
manipulation via a user interface program written in say BASIC XL or maybe 
TBXL or some such. 
  The second project is regarding the conversion of a BBS program from Turbo C
 on the IBM platform to MAC/65 or Action! on the 8-bit. The program is 
Citadel:K2NE and I have all the necessary source code, docs and other info 
for it. The conversion could be made to work on upgraded XL/XE computers of 
>128k ram if need be. I've been considering the Newell 4Mb ram upgrade 
anyway. On the other hand, it could be written in modules that swap in and 
out as needed and be compatible with normal 103XE computers. 
  Any takers? 
  
   =>Dr. Jolts<=---------* 
  
 You've had the power all along! 
  Atari Computers-Real Business! 
  P  
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From: moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: CRASH!
Date: 18 Aug 92 00:38:06 GMT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

etxansk@garbod20.ericsson.se (Anders Skelander) writes:

>  1. The buggy BASIC revision in the computer. (What about BobTerm
> and the font editor. Are they written in BASIC?)

Well.. it hasn't happened any more...  not since I went in and cleaned 
the thing.  It mighta been a little short in the keyboard or something? 
(NEVER spill stuff in a keyboard... as Bush'd say: "It's BAD!  It's 
BAD!")...

Anyways..        Re: BobTerm and DDIII's font editor...

        BASIC!?!?!      You need to get out and download a little more! 
                ;)   If I recall correctly BobTerm was written in 
Action!?  (help out folks!)  And DDIII...I could look it up, but it's a 
less interesting program than BobTerm  ;)  (not saying I haven't been 
using DDIII twice as much as BT lately or anything!   hahaha  ;)  )


Anyone ever think about pattern-printing in DDIII? (since the subject has 
arisen itself..DDIII that is)  I was thinking instead of the program 
printing out letters which are formed from a 16 dot high line, how about 
a 16 dot high dotted line, or something that sort of fades away at the 
top.  How about inverse?!  And too bad italics is a drag to use with the 
thing (too bad these 8-bits were made with so little memory! <snicker> (I 
should talk!!!)).  Just imagine... using up 1/2 the disk space to print 
italics or inverse.  And the patterning would look REALLY nice.  Have the 
letters darker at the top and bottom and lighter in the middle... it'll 
look sorta metal :)  (I love doing that on the screen with DLIs or 
multi-color text).

Well.. this is for Roy Goldman to do, if he ever feels it must be done.  
I'm sure it'd end up being hell to program in, esp. since the program has 
covered probably everything he ever imagined he wanted it to do.  I sorta 
wish I coulda been there back in the beginning (God I'd've been more 
annoying than I am now!!)




Hey- anyone ever think of starting from SCRATCH and having resizable 
fonts!?!?  How about resizeable fonts with 2 sets of patterns!?  Outline 
it first, then fill it in with a pattern...     god I'm going nuts with 
my printer... 9-pin it may be.






"good enough isnt"

"Be seeing you!"
___________________________ ||| __
PhBill: Bill Kendrick      / | \
moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
__________________________________
                   August 17, 1992