HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kotinis@aeras.uucp (John Kotinis)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Is Greek Educational System Also In A Shambles, 'Kotinis?'
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:24:24 GMT
Reply-To: kotinis@aeras.UUCP (John Kotinis)
Organization: Arix Corporation, San Jose, CA.

In article <1992Apr16.103338.14810@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> ahmet@eecg.toronto.edu (Ahmet Parlakbilek) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.200141.28919@aeras.uucp> kotinis@aeras.UUCP (John Kotinis) writes:
>>
>>You want to say that what Turkey is doing in Cyprus is legal?
>
>Certainly.
>

I have to write again the same thing.
Why don't you take a look to the statements of the 
United Nations council?
They say that the occupation of the 40% of Cyprus
is illegal. 
Do you have to say anything about it? 
And also, one question, how many countries have recognized the new 
"pseudo-republic" in North Cyprus? 
Turkey, and two, three more. All the others, seems to agree that
Turkey has to withdrawl the thousands of the troops who still
,after 17 years, remain in the island. And simply, don't accept the excuse
that these troops just protect the Turkish-Cyprus.



>>Keeping away from their homes 200.000 Greek-Cypriots is legal?
>
>I wish they could return their homes, in the same way I wish the Turkish
>Cypriots killed by Greek Cypriots and EOKA between 1963 and 1974 could
>return to their country...
>
>>Cheap propaganda Hassan. 
>
>Your idea. Why don't you read the observations of Mr. Ayomamitis and
>reevaluate your stand?
>
>
I read it  very carefully (and i don't include it again, not because
everything is against Greek-Cypriots, but because it's too big).
Very interesting, and many facts. 
You know, there are many books written also for what Turkish did 
to Cyprus. It's the same story, but from another view.
They describe how did Turkish soldiers were killing Greek-Cypriots.
I don't like this kind of talking. 
And it seems that you prefer to have two republics in CYPRUS.
That's fair with your logic. 18% of the population, keeps the 40%
of the island (and the most rich part of it). 
What i see is that U.N, and almost all the countries  accept one CYPRUS
and not two as you wish. 
(It seems to me that you agree absolutely with everything was written by 
Mr Ayomamitis)



>Regards,
>Ahmet Parlakbilek 


Yannis Kotinis
e-mail aeras!kotinis@sun.COM
From: perlman@qso.Colorado.EDU (perlman eric)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: IF PHONE LINES ARE A RECOGNITION, THEN
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:47:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: colorado.1992Apr14.154710.1741
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <1992Apr14.030948.1015528@locus.com> jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000) writes:
>the road connection via Jordan is also a recognition (Another way of
>communication), Jea, this road was created 5000 years ago.  That means 
>King Hosain recognized Israel 5000 years ago;  I knew the King is old
>and full of gray hair, but not 5000 years old.  That is a little  too
>much.

This is either a very bad joke or another graphic demonstration of
Elghani's historical ignorance.  5000 years ago was generations before
Abraham.  True, a few of the Sumerian cities were reaching their height
at this time, but I don't think Elghani knew enough to think of this.

>Are the destruction  and bombing flights over Lebanon  a recognition too?
>I wonder!!

With this kind of attitude, it's no wonder you still won't admit you
lost your bet.  I'll still let you off with only a public apology, even
though I've proven you wrong four times now (once before the bet was
launched, and three times after).  However, your "easy money" was all
hot air, and everyone else on this net knows it by now.  Unfortunately,
it looks like you don't keep your word.

-- 
"How sad to see/A model of decorum and tranquillity/become like any other sport
A battleground for rival ideologies to slug it out with glee." -Tim Rice,"Chess"
     Eric S. Perlman  <perlman@qso.colorado.edu> or <eric@lyra.Colorado.EDU> 
  Center for Astrophysics and Space Astronomy, University of Colorado, Boulder
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
From: perlman@qso.Colorado.EDU (perlman eric)
Subject: Re: Nadia: Cool Out / History & Scholarship
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:06:22 GMT

In article <s2vhiINN779@agate.berkeley.edu> kirjner@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Carlos Kirjner) writes:
>In article <1992Apr9.233919.18389@colorado.edu> perlman@qso.Colorado.EDU (perlman eric) writes:
>
>>It is true.  However, Behnam, what is the chance that he could get a
>>fair trial in Syria?  I'd say essentially zero, given his connections in
>>the Syrian government.  Plus, there is a principle both in American and
>>other nations' laws that says that if possible the accused must fully
>>confront the charges and evidence against him.  This could *not* be done
>>in Syria.  Your answer avoids the question.  Alois Brunner should be
>                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>extradited to ISRAEL for trial.
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>>
>>     Eric S. Perlman  <perlman@qso.colorado.edu> or <eric@lyra.Colorado.EDU> 
>
>
>
>Here is an interesting question: Which Israeli law has he broken?
>
>If he has not broken any Israeli law, why should he be judged by
>the Israelis, and not the Poles or Germans (in fact, one may also
>ask which German law he broke, but this gets too complicated)? 

Well, when one is talking about genocide, and on continent-wide scale,
admittedly the question of jurisdiction gets messy; however, as Leon
Gross has already pointed out this same question came up already during
Eichmann's trial.

>Because his victims were Jews? I am sorry, but I can't see fairness
>when a part is both victim and judge.
>
>Don't get me wrong.
>
>I would definitely like to see him punished by the Israelis. I just
>have a hard time convincing myself that this is "fair", or that
>it should be(and if it shouldn't why have a trial at all?)...

Because the victims of the Nazi holocaust were first and foremost Jews
(not forgetting the five-six million others who died in the holocaust),
and because in both american and other nations' jurisprudence a
principle exists that the accused must be able to confront his/her
accusers, Israel is the proper place for that trial, as the Jewish
state.

Unfortunately, when a crime of genocide is in question, the conflict you
point out above is pretty hard to avoid.  Israel's system of
jurisprudence contains a lot of safeguard; of all the nations in the
Middle East, it would be the *only* one where such a criminal could get
anything like due process.

-- 
"How sad to see/A model of decorum and tranquillity/become like any other sport
A battleground for rival ideologies to slug it out with glee." -Tim Rice,"Chess"
     Eric S. Perlman  <perlman@qso.colorado.edu> or <eric@lyra.Colorado.EDU> 
  Center for Astrophysics and Space Astronomy, University of Colorado, Boulder
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
From: adam@endor.uucp (Adam Shostack)
Subject: Re: How to post an article from the news media.
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 23:20:52 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.145308.28492@ncsu.edu> hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem) writes:
|Apr9.000119.2176@das.harvard.edu>, adam@endor.uucp (Adam
|Shostack) writes:
|> In article <1992Apr8.164308.11653@ncsu.edu> hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU
|(Brad Hernlem) writes:
|>> >TROOPS KILL THREE IN WEST BANK
|> >OCCUPIED JERUSALEM, March 29 (Agencies) 
|>  [43 lines deleted]
|> >[Arab News, March 30, 1992]
|>> This is was article written by Arab News reporters, based on data from
|> Agencies.  It would be more honest to quote it as being from the Arab
|> News, based on wire service reports.  no news wire calls Jerusalem
|> Occupied Jerusalem.
|
|> Adam Shostack 					adam@das.harvard.edu
|
|How would you like me to edit these articles so that they are more
|suitable to your sensibilities? I have transcribed this article as it
|appeared in the source and then listed the source at the end of my
|posting.

Putting the source at the begining, prefereably with a city or country
of origin for "the arab news" would show that this was a compilation,
I think is a good way to do things.  That (presumably) mimics closely
how you saw it originally- Picked up the Arab news that came in the
mail, flipped it open, and saw the article.  You knew what the bias
was, and who had edited it.  Giving us the same courtesy removes the
only objection I have to seeing (what seems to me to be) the Iranian
government line on the net.

BTW, thanks for bowing to my sensibilities. :)

|Brad Hernlem 

Adam



Adam Shostack 					adam@das.harvard.edu

What a terrible thing to have lost one's .sig.  Or not to have a .sig
at all.  How true that is.      
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From: jars@milton.u.washington.edu (Juan Rodriguez-Sero)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: Jewish Students Assaulted
Keywords: Jews Assault
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:46:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Apr15.224650.23349
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Apr15.184524.13857@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> souissi@ei.ecn.purdue.edu (Ridha Souissi) writes:
>They don't have the right to take pictures of other people
>without their consent.  Who gives them the permission or the
>authority.

As I understand pertinent law, in fact they can take pictures of
anybody who is in a public place; you only need consent (what is
called by photographers "model release" in everyday talk) to make
a COMMERCIAL use. And in that case, the point of possible con-
tention would be the ownership of the copyright on the pictures.
The "permission or authority" is given by the whole legal-judicial
law enforcement system.
From: rivk@quads.uchicago.edu (nora gayle rivkis)
Subject: Re: Jewish Students Assaulted
Keywords: Jews Assault
Reply-To: rivk@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 23:25:37 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.195927.15326@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> souissi@ei.ecn.purdue.edu (Ridha Souissi) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.192045.4512@muddcs.claremont.edu> gmeltzne@jarthur.claremont.edu (manu) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr15.184524.13857@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> souissi@ei.ecn.purdue.edu (Ridha Souissi) writes:
>>
>>>
>>>I think that the two Jewish students were asking for trouble.
>>>They don't have the right to take pictures of other people
>>>without their consent.  Who gives them the permission or the
>>>authority.  The man selling the literature might have been
>>>also asking for trouble by selling these kinds of books.
>>>But are these books outlawed/censored? doesn't he have the
>>>right to do it?  Please keep us informed on the process of this
>>>case.
>>
>>	I think that the Palestinians are asking for trouble by throwing
>>stones and therefore deserve to be shot.  Seriously though, do journalistc
>
>Do you compare stones with bullets?  How many Israeli policemen
>died from stones and how many Palestinian youth were killed
>by life amunition? Compare the numbers.

Do you compare photographs with aggravated assault? To what extent
did the person being photographes suffer physical attack from the
camera, and to what extent did the students suffer physical attack
in return? Please take your double standard home.

	-Nora

-- 
Oseh shalom b'imromav, hu ya'aseh shalom aleinu v'al kol yisrael.
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
From: rivk@quads.uchicago.edu (nora gayle rivkis)
Subject: Re: Terrorism
Reply-To: rivk@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 21:26:36 GMT

In article <2463@creatures.cs.vt.edu> sahle@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Eskinder Sahle) writes:
>In article <1992Apr5.090216.7127@midway.uchicago.edu> rivk@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>In article <1992Apr3.190515.28427@bony1.bony.com> jake@bony1.bony.com (Jake Livni) writes:
>
>>>You must love arguing, Ahmed.
>>>Jake Livni
>>
>>Of course he does. All of us do; why else do we play on the net? ;-)
>>	-Nora
>
>
>But Nora: haven't you realized that Jake never argues?  Seriously.
>I have yet to see the guy actually engage himself in an argument.
>Up to now, the only thing he has been able to provide us with are
>sarcastic statements that at times turn nasty in their cheapness.
>Not much more.

I have seen enough nastiness from both of you that I am staying out of 
the fray if possible. (Note: this is not necessarily an attack on either;
I've done my share of being nasty, too.) I meant "argument" less in the
sense of "he'd got a fairly good argument," than in the sense of "My parents
had a serious knowck-down-drag-out argument last night..." 

Fair enough? ;-)

>Ahmed.

	-Nora
-- 
Oseh shalom b'imromav, hu ya'aseh shalom aleinu v'al kol yisrael.
From: Paktor@cup.portal.com (David L Paktor)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: ARAFAT ALIVE-PLO BLAMES MOSSAD?!?
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 22:23:16 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)


In Message: <1992Apr8.142507.16215@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> 
      friedenb@egr.msu.edu (Gedaliah Friedenberg)   writes:

>   As reported this morning, PLO Chairman Yassir Arafat was found alive.
>   
>   At first report of Arafat's plane disappearing, the PLO 
>   (Pitiful Lack of Organization) accused the Mossad of
>   orchestrating his assasination.
>   
>   Now that Arafat has been found alive, the PLO is now claims
>   that the Mossad never had anything to do with it.
>   
>   Come on guys, you're slipping.  Is it the Mossad or not?

From the title of this thread, I thought the PLO was blaming
    the Mossad for Arafat still being alive.

From the history of the PLO, I was ready to believe it, too...

David

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  === Mister Systems ===    |  And pray that there's intelligent life
      David L Paktor        |  Somewhere out in space,
                            |  Cause there's bugger-all here on Earth!
  Paktor@cup.Portal.com     |     -- Monty Python, The Meaning of Life
                            |
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: anwar+@cs.cmu.edu (Anwar Mohammed)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: More on Mojahedin Attacks
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:14:40 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1992Apr13.134217.6795@ncsu.edu> hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem) writes:
>
>From the Voice of the Islamic Republic of Iran over the weekend:
>
>* Hans Dietrich Genscher, in a letter to Iran's foreign minister, Ali
>Akbar Valayeti, stated that his government regretted the Mojahedin
>attacks on the Iranian representatives' offices in Germany and that
>steps have been taken to avert such attacks in the future. Furthermore,
>Germany is offering to compensate Iran for the loss of property.
>
>* Similarly, Norway has offered to compensate Iran for the damage to its
>embassy in Oslo.
>
>* Iran has invited U.N. investigators to examine the villages on the
>Iranian border which were recently attacked by members of the Mojahedin
>Khalq Organization (which Iran refers to as the Monafeqin [Monafeq =
>hypocrite/traitor] Terrorist Organization).
>
>Brad Hernlem (hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU) 

The best description I've heard of this whole embassy affair was Peter
Jenning's....He called it the (and I am paraphrasing a little) "the give-us-a-
break story".

I wonder when Iran will compensate the U.S. and the families of the hostages 
taken in that embassy.

-anwar
-- 
Anwar Mohammed                           Graduate Student
anwar+@cs.cmu.edu  (NeXTmail welcome!)   School of Computer Science
Voice: +1 412 268 3043                   Carnegie-Mellon University
Fax:   +1 412 681 5739                   Pittsburgh, PA  15213-3890
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
From: gross@befvax.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: How Occupied Is Jerusalem?
Reply-To: gross@befvax.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago, Dept of Molecular Genetics
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:07:59 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.201710.109972@cs.cmu.edu>, anwar+@cs.cmu.edu (Anwar Mohammed) writes:
>The 1992 Award for Stunning Disingenuousness goes to...[Drum Roll]...
>
>In article <1992Apr10.174934.12264@midway.uchicago.edu> gross@befvax.uchicago.edu writes:
>>In article <1992Apr10.151107.18636@ncsu.edu>, hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem) writes:
>>>(For those of you who think that the use of "occupied" when describing
>>>Jerusalem is merely political:)
>>>
>>>TO TURN JEWS INTO A MAJORITY IN EAST JERUSALEM
>>>
>>>ISRAEL STEPS UP SETTLEMENT ACTIVITY
>>>
>>>OCCUPIED JERUSALEM, April 4 (R) -- The Palestinian mechanics glare at
>>
>>Maybee I dont reeed vury goot, 
>>
>>But please tell me where in the article it said anything about making
>>Jews a majority in East Jerusalem
>
>Gee, you're right, nowhere here does it actually say anything about a Jewish
>majority in East Jerusalem...there must be *nothing* to worry about:
>
No, that's not my point at all.

The headline is misleading. This source of information has been questioned
by others are regards to it's neutrality and reliability, and the
misleading headling contributes to this issue.

>-- 
>Anwar Mohammed                           Graduate Student
>anwar+@cs.cmu.edu  (NeXTmail welcome!)   School of Computer Science
>Voice: +1 412 268 3043                   Carnegie-Mellon University
>Fax:   +1 412 681 5739                   Pittsburgh, PA  15213-3890

Leon Gross
I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV.
From: re0x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Radu Eugen Edelstein)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Metrics
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:24:42 GMT
Organization: Masters student, Information Networking Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


The size of the Arab states is 5.3 million square miles (almost double the
size of the US).  The size of Israel is 8,299 square miles (about the size
of New Jersey).  Israel is 640 TIMES SMALLER than the Arab world.  To prove
its will for peace, Israel transferred the Sinai desert to Egipt.  The Sinai
desert is 3 TIMES LARGER than Israel.

Rad
From: hillel@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (hillel.e.markowitz)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: U.S. Aid To Israel?????
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:03:28 GMT
Organization: AT&T Migration Systems

In article <dfs.702826521@data> dfs@doe.carleton.ca (David F. Skoll) writes:
>In <1992Apr08.165203.192872@cs.cmu.edu> anwar+@cs.cmu.edu (Anwar
>Mohammed) writes:
>
>>Well, Israel is harboring suspects in the terrorist killing of Alex 
>>Odeh, ADC founder.  I don't know if the U.S. has requested extradition
>>yet, but don't the U.S. and Israel have an extradition treaty?
>
>Someone on the news group about 1.5 years ago said that the suspects
>in the Odeh case are believed to be in the West Bank, and that for the
>U.S. to request extradition would be tantamount to recognizing
>Israel's sovereignty over the WB.  I must admit it sounds doubtful to
>me, but that could be the reason.
>
>--
>                     |         | "Step up and shake the hand
>David F. Skoll       | ||||||| |  Of someone you can't stand,
>|_ _ _  __   __ _ __ |  \\V//  |  You can tolerate him if you try..."
> / |  | |_|   | |  | |  __|__  |  -- Tom Lehrer, "National Brotherhood Week"
>_____|________________________________________________________________________


Is this the Manning case where it was found that someone changed
the fingerprints send to the FBI for identification to match the
people who are now in Israel?  I believe there is a prosecution in
California against the people who falsified the evidence but I am
not sure.  Does any one have the details?

_______________________________________________________________
| Hillel Markowitz        |    Im ain ani li mi li             |
| H_Markowitz@att.com     |    Veahavta Leraiecha Kamocha      |
|_________________________|____________________________________|
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
From: bgdv706@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: Death Squads in Occupied Territories
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:00:56 GMT
Organization: University of Texas @ Austin

In article <1992Apr10.191445.7960@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>, bjag@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bharathi Jagadeesh) writes:

		[......]

> 
> Israel can't ethically prevent the people from administering their own
> goernment and then abdicate responsibility to provide for their welfare.
> Unfortunately, that unethical action appears to exactly what it's done. 
> 
> I am simply astonished that Israel actually collects taxes from the people
> whose land it occupies. 


	I ran into an issue of "Israel Shelanu". A small report at the next
	to last page says [... are mine]:

		"A liver transplant, the fifth, was done this week
		in Hadasa Ein Kerem in Jerusalem. The recipient is 
		Ibrahim Salima from Tul Karem, 47... The liver was
		taken from the body of a turist who as killed in a
		car accident...

		The operation took about 17 hours. It was carried out
		under the health insurance program of the civil 
		administration in Judea and Samaria, because the
		recipient is a resident of the territories, a father
		of 10..."


	Second thoughts?

> -- 
> Bharathi Jagadeesh/bjag@nwu.edu
> Who is that who mumbles in the dark/ who is it that draws his veil across the
> stars/ Langston Hughes

	
	Why did Langston do that?

Noam
From: makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: Want facts?  "WHO RUNS THE MEDIA?  The
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:36:47 GMT
Reply-To: makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ

In article <1992Apr16.052221.5806@newshost.anu.edu.au> bdm@cs.anu.edu.au writes:

# In article 18739@ennews.eas.asu.edu, makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky) writes:

# >	The author of 242 has repeatedly stated that Israel is not now in
# >violation of it, and that by giving up the Sinai Israel may have
# >fufilled all of its obligations under it.
 
# I defy you to prove this claim.

	How about a little wager?
--

David Makowsky
makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
From: dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren)
Subject: Re: Want facts?  "WHO RUNS THE MEDIA?  The Alarming Facts"
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:25:30 GMT

In article <JIME.92Apr14171250@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu# 
jime@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41) writes:

#That leaves Jordan.  And it should be clear that as Jordan never ruled
#all of Jerusalem, your claim is not strictly correct.  Aside from that
#nitpick, though, your original all-encompassing claim of "Israel is
#the first power to allow freedom of religious expression in
#Jerusalem" has been reduced to "Israel allows freedom of religious
#expression in Jerusalem, while Jordan didn't in the part of Jerusalem
#it administered."  Somehow the sweeping generalization has lost its
#punch in the light of reality.
#
#Next, perhaps someone should post some comments on the religious
#restrictions placed on Jews in East Jerusalem during the Jordanian
#tenure.  I would find this an interesting topic.

What Jews? How many Jews were in East Jerusalem before the six-day war?
Anyone has a number?

-Danny Keren.

[I have restricted this to t.p.m were it belongs]
From: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Anisa Alnoor Aldoubosh)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Arab Muslim Jews (Was Re: Marwan GET A LIFE)
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:40:50 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <14675@vela.acs.oakland.edu> rwstarke@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Ross W. Starkey) writes:
>
>Marwan (Epstien, the Puerto Rican Jew) writes:

What da heck is this?

Is it from the same silly sarcasm that we are really "Zionists in disguise"?

Yours and Philip's Zionist Pal -

	Anisa Golda Finesilver-Meir

I'm seriously contemplating converting after Passover.  Anyone know any good
Rabbis?