HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Females have it easy!
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 03:19:41 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.014944.26481@panix.com> sethb@panix.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:
>In article <1992Dec29.223307.12173@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>
>>Trygve   (I suppose it's more confusing this way, having my standards
>>          of beauty developing to center on whomever I'm involved with.)
>
>Yes, but it also makes life much more enjoyable.  Of course, if you
>get involved with several (physically very different) people at the
>same time, then life _does_ get very interesting...

Been there, done that.  Sure, the view can get real interesting at times,
but it's just too many body parts to keep track of. 

Trygve   (Who thinks just one partner at a time is more fun--there are more
          than enough interesting things to do with one person to keep all
          of one's body occupied and it's too hard for me to tune in to 
          more than one person's rhythms.)
--
"Up next:  Incredible new plutonium diet lets you burn off up to thirty
 pounds in two hours!"
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.men,soc.women
From: margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis)
Subject: Re: Duck and Jive (was Re: Pre-Sex Contract)
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 03:53:10 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16f by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: margoli@watson.IBM.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: The Village Waterbed

In <1993Jan4.011837.17339@zooid.guild.org> Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org> writes:
>Also, since I seem to be the only person showing displeasure with this, I am
>sure to be the next person to receive 100-300 lines of endless insults per
>day.

Now, *there's* a thought...

>Believe me, I'll live...

Oh - then why bother.  :-)
--
Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
From: markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: On Being Tied Down
Date: 24 Dec 1992 04:26:06 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <1992Dec22.191544.26183@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>Oooohh, fun-fun-fun.  Like the opening scene in Basic Instinct.  I saw
>that.  I'm not busy tonight and I have a looooooong scarf ... call
>me at 1-800-IKI-LLYU.



I'm sorry, but the number's busy.  Would you put the phone back on the hook?
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.women
From: dks@sr.com (Dave K. Sprow)
Subject: Re: Looking for a friend
Reply-To: dks@srhqla.UUCP (Dave K. Sprow)
Organization: Silent Radio, Los Angeles
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 21:46:03 GMT

In article <1hsuugINNmll@agate.berkeley.edu> jdunbar@sag4.ssl.berkeley.edu (Jonathan Dunbar) writes:
>Hi,  I hope that speacial someone gets this.  I`m 26 and just out of college for
>a year now.  I live in the Berkeley area.  I`m looking for someone to spend time
>with and most of all someone I can cuddle and show affection to (some in return please).  I have two cats, but they just can't hug back.  Well, I could post all
>that usuall stuff about how cute I am, and my weight (165lbs). Actually I really
>do keep myself looking trim and squeezable.  I have gotten over my last love
>( 6 months since ) and I'm ready to move on and live again.  I'm into a lot of 
>different things.  I like going out hiking, movies, dancing, and cycling.  I 
>would like so much to hear from women who are looking for a REAL relationship,
>not just a quick fling.  I don't smoke or drink, so if you do, you`ll definately
>find me BOARING.  Oh, I`m 5`11" and a mix of African/Irish/ and Native Crow
>        ^^^^^^^

blood.  Yep, I really look remarkable......well in a nice pleasant way.  I`m
>educated in physics and astronomy, but I never lost my humanity or humor.  I do
>wish to hear from you.  So if you are looking and living in the San Fransisco
>area, drop me a line.
>
>
>Jonathan

I've heard of self-deprecating, but calling oneself a pig in a personal ad?!?

David S.
From: tmcinern@newcomer.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Timothy McInerney x0 14-2)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
Date: 30 Dec 92 15:47:33 GMT
Organization: Computervision Corp.

In article <1992Dec30.024227.18458@netcom.com>, tyke@netcom.com (Kristen Kohlbecker) writes:
|> >>This is my first post on this BBS...finally decided to try it and 
|> >see if it actually works. My name is Shelley Kitsis and I reside and work in 
|> >Des Moines, Ia. For 3 years now, I've tried every available resourse I can 
|> >get my hands on, in hopes of meeting an eligible single Jewish "Mensch"!
|> 
|> >"I'm surrounded by Christians", (an appropriate day to post this
|> >message, huh?!), _Please_ someone help me!!
|> >                            Shelley
|> 
|> >	Well, call me crazy Shelley, but did you ever consider dating someone
|> >	who, (GASP), wasn't Jewish?
|> 
|> 
|> >	If you haven't, grow up and start living in the twentith century, 
|> >	before it becomes the twenty first!
|> 
|> She *is* you insensitive jerkoff. I mean *really*, can't someone have a 
|> standard or two for whom they will date, party, etc. with without some 
|> idiot jumping down their throat about something they clearly know nothing 
|> about? How *dare* you tell her that her standards are wrong! 

	ahhhhh, another one!  Bigots in disguise....

|> 
|> >	If you have and still insist on your archaic basis for mating, try
|> >	Isreal.
|> 
|> Oh yes, I bow to you in your infinite wit and wisdom, you MAN, you...Why
|> don't you come back when *you* grow up and can think of something more
|> constructive to say than:

	Well you WOMAN, as irrational as always.... Shelly states that
	"I'm surrounded by Christians" which to me indicates someone who is
	closeminded to begin.....
	nahhhh, forget it,
	hey Kristin, for the sake of the rest of the crew on this group
	please proceed to alt.flame for my rebuttal... 


|> "OHMIGAWD! You are only considering men with similar religious beliefs? How
|> very...Old World"
|> 

|> >						Tim the Lemur
|> 
|> Tyke  
	( 1) A small child.  2) A mongrel dog: cur.)
	Hmmmmm, whats another word for female dog...
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jdnicoll@prism.ccs.uwo.ca (James Davis Nicoll)
Subject: Re: Woman: will you go out with shorter man?
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 20:38:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.193052.1740@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>In article <1992Dec30.173114.29554@julian.uwo.ca> jdnicoll@prism.ccs.uwo.ca (James Davis Nicoll) writes:
>
>>	That was also the year I found out ignoring dislocated knees
>>is  a *bad* idea.
>
>Yes, but whose knees were they?
> 
	My own, alas. Because I have a history of hyper-mobile kneecaps
and  spent my teen-years dislocating my knees once a month or so, I
assumed any dislocation could be easily treated by putting the kneecap
back where it belonged (I'm leaving the screaming part out) and ignoring
minor stiffness  and moderate amounts of excruciating pain. As it turned,
ignoring torn ligaments is contraindicated, and I still have a relatively
inflexible  knee to remind me of my  stupidity.

							James  Nicoll
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 23:06:18 EST
From: Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Foot Ornementation as Warning Signs.

In article <283@cnmhnet.UUCP>, keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard) says:
>
>In article <1992Dec30.104905.13015@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com (drieux,   t
>jus
>drieux) writes:
>>But I have often found it cause to pause
>>when the ankle bracelet is made out of:
>>       1. tungston steel
>>       2. wraught iron
>
>Excuse me, but I was just wondering, am I
>the only one who noticed that this is actually
>a post from drieux, just drieux that is
>understandable???  I am now wondering is
>there is something wrong with drieux.
>drieux, are you OK?
>--Keith         ;-)
>

But...
But...
Drieux makes sense unless I don't know the context for the people he
is talking about.  His signal to noise is ussually pretty good, too.

Which Drieux are your reading?

Graydon
Xref: sparky soc.singles:34546 soc.men:21603 soc.women:21776 alt.flame:17258
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.men,soc.women,alt.flame
Subject: Re: Duck and Jive (was Re: Pre-Sex Contract )
Date: 21 Dec 92 23:00:52 GMT
Followup-To: soc.singles
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <thurlow.724799488@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:
|In <1992Dec18.085047.23945@netcom.com> rohwerwd@netcom.com (Mr. Tickle Monster) sez to Desiree:
|
|>     I would rather die than fuck you.  I saw you at the party and
|>although you are physically pretty, I think that, overall, you are an
|>extraordinarily ugly bitch.
|
|Best news I've heard in some time!  I won't have to compete with you
|for the smart, eloquent women who aren't afraid to speak their minds.

8.2.

Subtle, yet to the point.

-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
+==========================================================================+
From: pooh@Apple.COM (Pooh)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Financial first-date negotiations
Date: 22 Dec 92 12:38:48 GMT
Organization: Internet Refugee Camp

In the referenced article, mel@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Meloney D Cregor) writes:
>I know for a fact, Teri and I are the same age and Ray is in the same
>category and I'm pretty sure Pooh is in the over 30 range and I don't 
>think any of us are still in any formal schooling.

Well, close -- I'm 2 months away from 30 (on the approach side,
not the getaway side ;-), but it's true, I haven't been formally
schooled since 1984 ...

But I would still like to be considered part of the illustrious
gang :-)

Pooh
	pooh@apple.com
From: tmcinern@newcomer.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Timothy McInerney x0 14-2)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
Date: 30 Dec 92 15:29:56 GMT
Organization: Computervision Corp.

In article <1992Dec29.224137.12752@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
|> In article <4506@cvbnetPrime.COM> tmcinern@newcomer.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Timothy McInerney x0 14-2) writes:
|> >
|> [Shelley expresses desire to meet elligible, single Jewish men]
|> 
|> >	Well, call me crazy Shelley, but did you ever consider dating someone
|> >	who, (GASP), wasn't Jewish?
|> >
|> >	If you have and still insist on your archaic basis for mating, try
|> >	Isreal.
|> 
|> Well, different people have different criteria--you may not be willing to
|> consider dating someone on the basis of age, sex, philisophical leanings,
|> criminal record, neuroses and/or psychoses, or whatever; if religion is
|> what's important to Shelley for the type of relationship she is currently
|> seeking, who is to say that this criterion is any less valid than whatever
|> factors you consider important? 
|> 
|> >						Tim the Lemur
|> 
|> Even if she were to abandon her preference for Jewish men, Shelley may
|> still want to stay within her species, so even though lemurs are awfully
|> cute, you may still be out of luck.  (On alt.fan.lemurs, though, you might
|> find more women willing to date at least most primate species.)
|> 
|> Trygve


	To speak for myself and myself only, I always give anyone that is interested
	in me a chance, regardless of any factors... because you just don't know
	until you try!  Even if it is for only one date...
	I am very happily heterosexual, yet went out on a date with a homosexual
	friend who was interested in me... nothing came of it, nothing sexual that is,
	but I felt that he, as well as everyone else, deserved a chance...
	Call me crazy...

	And who knows, maybe Shelley would date a lemur of the right sect.  We
	have religions thank you!  I, of course, worship no one... except 
	life...


						Tim the Werelemur
From: falk@peregrine.Sun.COM (Ed Falk)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is gold-digging?
Date: 21 Dec 1992 23:10:05 GMT
Organization: Sun
NNTP-Posting-Host: peregrine

In article <101671@netnews.upenn.edu> crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) writes:
>
>If a man asks me out, and I don't know him very well, I assume he's
>paying.  If he doesn't, he's got no class whatsoever, IMO.  ...
>
>I imagine it would be different if I asked a man out, but that isn't my
>style.  

Translation:  "I don't insist that the man pay for dates, I think that
whoever does the asking should pay for the dates.  Of course, I insist
that the man do the asking."

Been there, done that, heard it before.


>Now that I've been seeing someone for over a year, we rarely do the
>traditional "date" thing; I'll pay for lunch this time, he'll pay next
>time, I'll cook, he'll cook, whatever.  Occasionally we still do the
>formal "date," we go somewhere special and he pays.  Otherwise, whoever
>happens to have money at the time pays, or we split it.  
>
>So, would any guys out there in net.land consider any of this 
>"gold-digging"?  I'm honestly not very familiar with the term.

Actually, not.  It's one thing to do it the traditional way at first
when people aren't sure of one another, but as long as the relationship
winds up in a more equal footing, I have no problem with it.

(Now, if a woman who wants to start out on an equal footing, that's
a real plus in my mind.)

I once had an SO who, although she made more money than me, and was a
self-professed feminist, still insisted that I pay for all of our dates
(and do all the driving, etc.)  She was a "gold-digger" in my mind.

Of course there are exceptions.  I've gone out with a few starving
student types in my life, and then I usually pick up the lion's
share of dating costs. 

		-ed falk, sun microsystems
		 sun!falk, falk@sun.com
	"Towards the end, the smell of their air began to change"
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Over 40 and single....Anyone that "OLD"?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 07:45:04 GMT

In article <254@cnmhnet.UUCP> keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard) writes:
>In article <5300049@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> loftis@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kirk Loftis) writes:
>>I hate to say this, but I feel that it is very tough for a male in his
>>late teens and early 20's.  All the women/girls are very tough to date.
>>They play so many mind games at that age.  From my own experiences, when
>>I was that age, it was very difficult/nearly impossible to get a date,
>>much less a relationship.  Now that I am getting older (33), there are
>>more women that are availble.  
>
>You speak the truth, Kirk.  I had the same experiences.  When I was
>in my late teens, early twenties, I just about couldn't buy a date. 
>Then all of a sudden it seemed, in my latter 20's, I was like a 
>kid in a playground.  I could get just about any woman I wanted.  
>It was like that up until I got married this year.  In fact, I 
>know I could *still* get any woman I wanted, although I'm not
>going to try, because I *am* married.  But Kirk is definitely
>right.

Hmmmm...so far my experience has been just the reverse--I found that I
was much more in demand relationship-wise when I was in my early to mid
twenties; once I hit twenty-six or so, the level of interest began to
drop fairly rapidly.

Now, at age 29, while finding someone interested in a non-serious sexual
fling is no more difficult than ever, the women I know who are interested
in romantic relationships with men are almost all looking for men younger
than themselves, preferably in their late teens to early twenties, for 
anything serious.  

Trygve

--
I'm OK, but Your Hairdresser Should be Shot, by Legume McIntyre.  "Truly the
best self-help book of the nineties." -- Steve Gerben, asst. shipping manager.
                                                Pub. at $11.95 / only $2.50

 and now, at age 29, I'm finding that, while there


Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: mel@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Meloney D Cregor)
Subject: Re: Over 40 and single....Anyone that "OLD"?
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 02:21:09 GMT

In article <16135@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:

>I've afraid to ask but what exactly does it eat?  Mine can't seem to hold
>anything down.

Must be all the spice, John.  They don't eat much, but they do need the
occasional cleaning and lube job.  Alignment is optional.

--
The most remarkable thing about my mother is that for thirty years she served 
the family nothing but leftovers.  The original meal has never been found.
                                     -- Calvin Trillin
From: falk@peregrine.Sun.COM (Ed Falk)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Picking up the Tab (was: Re: What is gold-digging?)
Date: 23 Dec 1992 18:41:05 GMT
Organization: Sun
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: peregrine

In article <8059@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:
>
>This sounds like a good idea to me too.  However, given my current financial
>state, I could *maybe* affort McDonald's for two.  I guess that means I
>just can't ask anyone out until I inherit money, or something.  

Can you reciprocate in other ways?  Like cook dinner at home?  Or even
going to McDonald's once in a while?  I can't speak for all men, but
one of the most unpleasant feelings in the world is feeling that the
woman you're seeing is only going out with you for the free meals.  Just
an occasional gesture showing that the woman appreciates the man's
company too goes a long way.  Several women have posted here about
how they like to be made to feel special.  Well, men like to feel
special too once in a while.

		-ed falk, sun microsystems
		 sun!falk, falk@sun.com
	"Towards the end, the smell of their air began to change"
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Subject: Re: SF ISO S*M
Organization: Don't blame me, I voted for Bill 'n' Opus
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 19:19:04 GMT

In article <ljug3aINN9ep@news.bbn.com> dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
>In article <75896@apple.apple.COM>, pooh@Apple.COM (Pooh) writes:
>> 
>> You're right, Aahz -- shall we try climbing rope at 40 paces
>> in a.s.b.?  Or winter-issue handcuffs at Dawn?  (Sorry, Dawn.)
>
>Don't apologize.  Just let me know when you and Aahz are showing up so
>I can get my chains polished and oiled.

Just to set the record straight, I'm not letting those chains get used
on me.
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Virtual anniversary: 3 days and counting
From: tps@jptcs.COM (Tim Sailer)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Females have it easy!
Date: 28 Dec 92 20:09:10 GMT
Organization: JPT Computer Solutions
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Mark (markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu) wrote:
: In article <oneil.725199192@cwis> oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil) writes:
: >tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
: >Nah.  I think that the guys that they were inviting over were jerks because
: >they wouldn't have considered these girls for various reasons, including
: >the fact that they weren't fashion model lookalikes.  They weren't 
: >unattractive, but they weren't Christie Brinkley either.
: 
: I think it's time to let you in on a few secrets.  Men don't consider Christie
: Brinkley attractive.  One, she's married (last I heard).  Two, she looks too
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
WHOAWHOAWHOAWHOAWHOA!!!!! She's not attractive to men because she's MARRIED???
What kind of crap is that? Since when do women become unattractive as soon
as they say 'I do'??

: much like a TV spokesmodel, family-oriented platonic beauty in all its
: blandness.  Three, women are the only ones I ever hear referring to her as
: attractive, which just goes to prove that you really have to be a man to know
: what turns on a man.

Well, as a person that has met her personally, and talked with her, *I* find
her attractive... moreso in person than in pictures. Billy Joel is a lucky man!
So, this blows 2 and 3 above.... sorry.

Tim
-- 
Tim Sailer
JPT Computer Solutions - SCO Sales/Consulting/Administration and Mangling
PO Box 423 Mt Sinai, NY 11766
(516) 331-9001
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance,alt.romance.chat,soc.penpals
From: stone@cwis.unomaha.edu (Travis Stone)
Subject: Re: Do you have a good pickup line?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 21:12:26 GMT


The one *I* use alot is:

"Grab that other end, would you?  Great.  Now, we'll lift on the
count of three---ready?  One...Two...."

It's the best pickup line ever invented---nobody's refused me yet,
as my intact intervertebral disks will testify.  ;-)

...T.R. Stone

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: bdboyle@erenj.com (Bryan D. Boyle)
Subject: Re: Newspaper "personals"
Reply-To: bdboyle@erenj.com (Bryan D. Boyle)
Organization: Exxon Research & Engineering
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 16:00:35 GMT


In article <1992Dec26.082658.1422@galaxy.gov.bc.ca>, aguilbault@galaxy.gov.bc.ca writes:

>OK, OK, I'm going to post something.  I just happened upon soc.singles and 
>am both interested and disgusted in the material here.  Maybe this is a FAQ
>but here goes anyway...
>
>Serious Question: Do newspaper "Personals" advertisements work?  What kind
>of experiences (good and bad) have _net_ people had?  What techniques can
>make them work better?
>
>Alan  (nice straight guy)

IMHO, it depends (yeah, now, that's definitive..:-)).  On what?  Well, 
first, the newspaper you post in.  A posting in the NY Daily News will get
you a whole universe of different people than, say, the Princeton NJ local
paper.  Different class, different agendas, different style, period.

Secondly, just what are you looking for (now, that sounds familiar...)?  Dinner
companions, bridge partners, SO, or occasional companion.  Like they say
in advertising classes, you gotta make it clear to the consumer.  

On the whole, depending on the time of year, phases of the moon, rainfall
amounts in Brazil, exchange rates, CPI, or current occupant of the
white house, they: work/don't work/are dangerous/are fun/etc.  You pays
your money, you takes your chances.

Some hints:

1) never give out your address if you make a contact: meet in a "neutral
territory" over coffee or a burger, then see how it goes.

2) No last names until you're sure you can, at least on some level, trust
the person.

3) Keep it light, and honest.

that's about all the wisdom I can muster - yeah, I'm a lurker...but, to all
on the net, a happy and safe, as well as romance-filled, 1993!