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From: dkumasaw@oracle.uucp (Darren Kumasawa)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Coppola's DRACULA
Date: 9 Jan 93 02:05:07 GMT
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s1mbm@isuvax.iastate.edu (michael bruce mcdonald) writes:
>I think that your views about the relationship between culture and politics are
>very, very wrong.  I suppose you'd want to say that the *extremely* pejorative
>view of Gypsies in *Dracula* has nothing to do with their mass slaughter in
>the Holocaust, or with the German government's recent attempt to ship Gypsies
>"back" to Romania, but such political events are *closely*, profoundly related
>to the steady current of pejorative depictions of these people in works of
>culture, pejorative depictions that go back at least to the Middle Ages.
>By depicting Gypsies as less than fully human, Coppola (and Stoker before him)
>is perpetuating a cultural practice that has a *direct and pernicious*
>bearing on socio-political events.
>

Why are you blaming Stoker for stereotypes used by Coppola?  The original
Dracula novel was written a long time ago and reflects the European cultures
of that time.  I don't remember reading any anti-gypsy rhetoric that would 
cause the events that you cited.

There is a also a big difference between using trite stereotypes and
making a point of enforcing malicious prejudices.

I think that you are over-estimating how much impact this one movie will
make in the world socio-political culture.

Darren
From: cn@otter.hpl.hp.com (Colin Needham)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 07:18:24 GMT
Subject: Re: The Weird List
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Naked Lunch
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 08:26:02 GMT

In article <C0C0qw.8CI@news.iastate.edu> s1mbm@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.103738.13394@lut.ac.uk>, K.R.Catchpole3@lut.ac.uk writes:
>>The most PERFECT movie I've ever seen:
>

I concur that it certainly was one of the most perfect movies which I
have seen, and will go down on my all time best list.

>>Sex, 
>>Drugs,
>>Not much Rock n'Roll (but who cares ?)
>>Comedy
>>Satire 
>>Horror
>>Biographic
>>etc.....
>>
>
>Two more things:  First, let's not overlook the humor.  Perhaps because it 
>came as a visible relief to the "just say no", "war on drugs" (which even
>a middle-of-the-road journalist like Peter Jennings recently said is 
>doomed to failure) absurdity, I laughed loud and long at the way drug
>consumption was portrayed, especially early in the film.
>

I would argue that the movie is neutral on the subject of "drugs" and
can be seen as "anti" or "pro" or "neither" depending on what the viewer's own
disposition is.  In the Naked Lunch context, drugs are just one of many
possible means to liberation/enslavement/distraction in the pursuit of
creativity.    

>
>I'll admit that the film loses some energy in its second half, but is still
>excellent work overall, at least if one can simply revel in its zaniness
>rather than spending too much time trying to make sense of things.
>

I don't know what this says about me, but I thought the movie made
perfect sense...on a variety of levels.

>Finally, let's not overlook the fact that the great Judy Davis has a fine,
>if somewhat scanty, rolehe.
>

Gerald
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From: patk@sr.hp.com (Patrick Kearney)
Subject: Re: The Wierd List
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:55:46 GMT
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Ann Jessop at annie@garnet.berkeley.edu writes:

> Hi, just remembered _Performance_, yet another Ken Russell flick, with
> Mick Jagger and James Fox.

[...rest of posting deleted.]

No. Ken Russell did not direct "Performance", although I bet he wishes
he did. It was directed by Nicolas Roeg (who also photographed it) and
Donald Cammell. Cammell later went on to direct "The Demon Seed" and,
I think, "White of the Eye". Roeg's later career is well known.

"Performance" is, however, a great film. 

Ken Russell is a self-indulgent twit; he can't direct piss into a
bucket.

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From: bbrett@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Betsy Brett)
Subject: Twilight Zone:the Movie
Summary: What actors from old series in movie?
Keywords: TZ the Movie - what actors from old series?
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 03:02:58 GMT


I recently saw Twilight Zone: the Movie for the first time since
watching the original series.  I noted several names from episodes in
the series, but I am sure I missed some.  Does anyone have a list of the
actors who were in both, and perhaps also what episodes, etc?

Thanks.

-Betsy Brett-
bbrett@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
From: spinaa@rpi.edu (Matt Garretson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Jackie Chan on Discovery Channel
Date: 4 Jan 93 18:01:21 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY

In article <1992Dec31.151856.14244@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> jangi@ccs.northeastern.edu (Shrirang Jangi) writes:
>
>Next week the show is doing a piece on Tsui Hark, director/producer of Chinese
>Ghost Story and Once Upon a Time in China.

How many episodes are there of Incredibly Strange Movies? I've only seen a
few (about Jackie Chan, Tsui Hark, Sam Raimi, Ed Woods, and some lady who
made nudist flicks), but I keep seeing these over and over. 
Anyway, it's a great show. I hope they come up with some new episodes.
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: 1992 Movies that will continue to be popular
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:14:06 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <9301080629.AA22896@acs1.acs.ucalgary.ca>, jkung@acs.ucalgary.ca 
(Jimmy Kung) writes:

<movies that will be forgotten/ignored by future generations>

> - Last of the Mohicans : I enjoyed it, but as with alot of
> Michael Mann stuff, seems dated within a year or two.  (Ever
> tried to watch Miami Vice on USA Network?  Ouch.)

Woah, Woooah, WOOAAHHH!!!  Hold on there man.

_Last of the Mohicans_, a film about the French and Indian War, is going to 
seem dated in a year or two???  I was floored the first time I read this
post, then I re-read it, and read it a third time, then erupted into laughter.

I guess (I hope) I misunderstood the point you were trying to make.  I just
don't see the connection between the out-datedness of a modern show like
"Miami Vice" and a period movie like _LotM_.  I agree MV seems outdated, it
was shaped strongly in fashion, look, and sound by the period during which
it was made.  But LOTM was made with, in my opinion, a strong attempt to
be accurate to the time period of it's setting.  (Yes they had goofs, and 
the "image and entertainment value" sometimes overrode the realism, but 
over all)  

At times I feel like I'm the only one who took this movie seriously.  Many
I have talked to, or have posted here blew it off as "just a flashy Mann
project" or "a vapid action pic" or "a silly costume drama".  I thought
that _Last of the Mohicans" was one of the finest movies made this year.

It performed admirably in educating, entertaining, and drawing forth emotions.
It had amazing scenery, brilliant costumes and make-up, some of the best
action choreography I've ever seen.  There were elements of action/drama/
comedy/romance.  And I thought the acting was first rate.  Daniel Day Lewis
does an amazing job of convincing me he *was* raised by Native Americans,
and many people have forgotten Madeline Stowe for a Best Actress nominee.
Then there is the relatively new Steven Waddington who did an excellent 
job in a supporting role, as well as the three American Indian actors,
especially Wes Studi as Uncas, who many thought nearly stole the show.

I sincerely hope _Last of the Mohicans_ lasts along with my other favorite
historical action movies: _Lawrence of Arabia_, _The Man Who Would Be King_,
_Glory_, _The Mountains of the Moon_, _The Three Musketeers_, etc.

Greg Bole                                  "In case your aim is better 
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu                   than your judgement."
                                   Daniel Day-Lewis in _Last of the Mohicans_
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From: ubigpig@mcl.ucsb.edu (Jeremy Dodd)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: (Unsolicited) advice against Blockbuster
Date: 9 Jan 93 23:51:44 GMT

In <74721v#@rpi.edu> spinaa@rpi.edu (Matt Garretson) writes:

>I also rented Luc Besson's SUBWAY there. Was this movie originally in French?
>I assume it was. The copy I got from BB was dubbed into english. This sort
>of pisses me off since there was no mention of this on the tape case they use.
>I wish video stores would label the tapes so we'll know if they're dubbed
>or subtitled, p&s or letterboxed, and if they have Macrovision.

Blockbuster's system is: if the film is subtitled, then the word SUBTITLED follows the title in parenthises on the movie box (the one you take home). If it is dubbed, more often than not, nothing will be written on the box, but since it is in the FOREIGN section, it is to be assumed.  Not a frightfully intelligent way to go about it, but that's how it works.
As for letterbox/p&s, the letterboxed films are labeled as such not only on Blockbuster's box, but on the coverbox as well.  P&S is usually noted as well, but not always.
						J.D.

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From: durandm@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Durand Martin)
Subject: Kodak CDS sound and the super 16mil format.
Summary: CDS is not the standard for recording sound on super 16mm
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 02:12:10 GMT

In article <J06uwB6w165w@cithara.login.qc.ca> spongebo@cithara.login.qc.ca (THE EYE-BALL KID) writes:
[intro stuff deleted]
>I recently heard about a system for printing the sound (OPTICAL) between
>sproket holes. This makes for a larger picture area (super 16mm, or super 35mm
>-- ie three perf not four).
>
>Is this the same system?

No, unfortunately it is not. Actually, there are no methods used to print sound
on a super 16 or super 35mm film because these formats were not intended for
screening representations.

The super 16mm format is used primarily by cinematographers who want to shoot
films with the screen aspect ratio of the 35mm negative film without using 
heavy cameras (some places are forbidding...) or without having to pay alot for
the shooting (16mm cameras and film stocks are cheaper, so...).

>If so it will improve the quality of the projected image (and sound) on ALL
>LEVELS across the board>
>
>1 - the sound is didgitally encoded -- no hiss from dirty hears, no mag
>residue, and no deterioration of the optical sound (which always sucked
>anyway).

It's true that Kodak CDS process means digitally encoded soundtracks on the
projected film. It means better sound without all the problems which can occur
with magnetic recordings.

>2 - larger negative and positive (print) area. Ie finer grain. That would BEGIN
>in the shooting stage (no more of that "academy" ratio crap) by giving the
>cinematographer a 1.66 frame by default!

Unfortunately, this is where your reasoning is wrong. Finer grain is not resul-
ting only from the size of the negative. It is mostly a result of the molecular
structure of the film. T-grain technology films (developped recently by KODAK)
made possible to increase the sensitivity of film stocks without compromising onthe image resolution. But I must admit that the wider the negative of the stock
the better the image because more information can be registered on the film.

About the fact about aspect ratio, super 16mm "blows up" to give the aspect 
ratio of a 35mm film, i.e. 1.85 (16/9). What makes super 16mm so attractive is
that it is cheaper that 35mm and that the new HDTV system will have a screen
aspect of 16/9. The rest of the argument is crystal clear - shooting in super 16means substantial savings in film production without compromising the image
quality in HDTV.

I hope this sheds some light on the subject and I will await any comments that
anyone on this net could give to me.

Martin Durand (durandm@ere.umontreal.ca)
Student, master's degree, in film studies
U of Montreal, Quebec, Canada.

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From: dtschett@saims.skidmore.edu (donna tschetter)
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS!
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 04:49:40 GMT

Pet Peeve:  Loud, crass shouting and imitating of Pacino from
boisterous patron at "Scent of a Woman"

Just came from the theater and this is still fresh in my mind!!

How rude and self-involved this guy was...All the way throught the
movie just shouted above the sound system and made the wheee-haw noise
as loud as Pacino did.  ARGGHHHHHHH!!!!

...just letting off steam....

Donna :>

Ban the cretins from the theaters!
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From: mgrimes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Grimes)
Subject: Re: Name This Obscure Old Movie
Keywords: A song...
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:45:16 GMT


It's one of the songs from WHITE CHRISTMAS sung by Rosemary Clooney and Vera 
Ellen. They meet Bing Crosby and Danny Kaye and go to an Inn in New England to 
help out a retired general with a big TV show and reunion with his soldiers.
And finally they all live happily ever after and open the barn doors to let in 
the snow!  And they count their blessings, etc when they can't sleep.
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From: patk@sr.hp.com (Patrick Kearney)
Subject: Re: The Weird List (Dali)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:22:35 GMT
Organization: HP Sonoma County (SRSD/MWTD/MID)
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"Un Chien Andalou" (1925) was the film that got me seriously
interested in Cinema; it was described in an early F. Maurice
Speed Film Annual -- in England -- as "one of the most revolting
films ever made" which of course intrigued the hell out of me.
It was some time before I managed to track it down, though, eventually
seeing it at London's National Film Theatre in a programme of shorts
called "The Anarchist Attack".

"Un Chien Andalou" has a number of shocking images, most notably a
scene where ants crawl out of a hole in a man's hand and another
where a woman's eye is sliced in half with a straight razor. This 
latter was used again by Dali in a slightly modified form in a
dream sequence he designed for a Hitchcock film -- can't recall 
which one; "Spellbound" I think -- in which an eye on a curtain is
cut in half by a man with a huge pair of scissors.
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From: alee@quads.uchicago.edu (Steele Alloy)
Subject: Arriflex 535
Reply-To: alee@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:13:32 GMT

I'm curious about the Arriflex 535 camera - Only thing I know about it
is that it has built in time coding. Can anyone tell me more about it,
and its price as well? Thanks.

   - Art

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From: buckmr@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: The Crying Game [SPOILER!!]
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 02:01:02 GMT

williaml@cs.concordia.ca (LEE william) writes:

>In article <1992Dec31.015632.21571@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mritchie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael S Ritchie) writes:
>>
>>

>>
>>Is Jaye Davidson (Dil in the movie) male or female?  The promo
>>material available in the theatre was (I assume) deliberately
>>unclear.
>>
>>--Michael

>Yeah, what a twister!!! I also thought  Dill was a female until the very
>very very last moment. :)
> 
>I'd really like to know whether Jaye is in fact or was ever a male cuz
>she does have somewhat a deep voice. 

Jaye davidson is obviously male. He was given for Best Supporting Actor
award by the National Society of Film Critics no Monday.
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From: cjd@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Christopher Dean)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Upcoming Films 1/12
Date: 13 Jan 93 00:59:41 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

Please email me any additions and updates/corrections. If possible include the
source of your information.

      -Upcoming Films-

Jan 15: Alive, Body of Evidence, Nowhere to Run
Jan 22: Aspen Extreme, Damage, Hexed, Lorenzo's Oil
Januar: Army of Darkness: Evil Dead III, Delta Heat, Ethan Frome, The Giving,
	Homeward Bound: The Incredible Journey, Matinee, Starfire, Strictly
	Ballroom, The Temp, Used People
Feb  5: National Lampoon's Loaded Weapon 1, Sommersby
Feb 19: Falling Down
Febuar: Amos & Andrew, Blood In... Blood Out, The Cemetery Club, Dragon,
	Groundhog Day, Hideous Mutant Freekz, Love Field, Mac, Oliver Oliver,
	Passion Fish, Riff-Raff, Sniper, Swing Kids, Untamed Heart,
	The Vanishing
March : Fire in the Sky, The Meteor Man, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III
April : Sleeping Beauty (re-release)
Spring: Body Snatchers, Josh and S.A.M.
June  : Dennis the Menace, Hot Shots Part Deux, Jurassic Park, The Last Action
	Hero, The Witching Hour
Aug 13: Friday the 13th: Jason Goes to Hell
August: The Coneheads, The Crow, Needful Things
Summer: Ghost in the Machine, Made in America, RoboCop 3, Snow White and the
	Seven Dwarves (re-release), Super Mario Brothers, Tom & Jerry: The
	Movie, A Troll in Central Park, Wizards 2
Novemb: The Addams Family 2, King of the Jungle 
Decemb: The Pebble and the Penguin, Philadelphia, Wolf
??????: Age of Innocence, Annie and the Castle of Terror, The Dark Half,
	Deadfall, Rising Sun

-1994-
??????: Aliens vs. Predator, Clear and Present Danger, The Mask

-1995-2000-: Star Wars I, Star Wars II, Star Wars III

??????: The American, Beyond Innocence, Black Cat Bone: The Return of
	Huckleberry Finn, Black Panther, Blankman, Blondie, "Bodies, Rest &
	Motion", Body Shot, Casper: the Friendly Ghost, Concrete, The Cool
	Surface, The Crossing Guard, A Dangerous Woman, The Demolished Man,
	Demolition Man, Die Hard 3, Dream Lover, The Fantastic Four, The Fly
	III, Forbidden Planet (remake), Fortress, Free Willy, Gilbert Grape,
	The Good Son, The Green Hornet, Heaven and Earth, The Hidden II,
	Highlander III: The Magician, A Home of Our Own, Household Saints,
	House of Cards, The House of Spirits, In the Line of Fire, Kings in
	Disguise, The Lawnmowerman 2, Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, Maverick,
	The Men in Black, Mr. Magoo, Mother Night, Much Ado About Nothing,
	Organic Future, A Perfect World, The Phantom, Plastic Man, Posse, The
	Real McCoy, Richie Rich, The Saint, Sgt. Rock, The Shadow, Short Cuts,
	Sliver, The Son-in-Law, Spiderman, The Stowaway to Mars, A Stranger in
	a Strange Land, A Thief of Time, Time Cop, Trancers IV (Video),
	Trancers V (Video), Warlock: The Armageddon, Wayne's World 2, The Wild
	Wild West, Younger & Younger, Zone of Silence
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From: ecater36@ursa.calvin.edu (Evan Cater)
Subject: Oscar predix?
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:00:46 GMT

I'm interested to hear some early Oscar predictions from the net.
Anybody interested in predicting the nominees (in any category, but
particularly Best Picture) can e-mail them to me at

ecater36@calvin.edu

and I'll post a list of the most common (and interesting) predictions.
Anybody who posts their predictions will undoubtedly be flamed out of
their mind, so it's probably best to send them to me. 

Some subjects I'm interested to hear discussed:

 - How many of the best song nominees will be from _Aladdin_?  And which
   songs will be nominated?
 - Will Spike be snubbed again now that he's done a more Academy-friendly film?
 - What will be nominated in one of my personal favorite categories-- score?
 - Will Robin Williams get that much-talked-about supporting actor nomination?
 - Does anybody besides Emma Thompson stand a chance of winning Best Actress?
 - Anything else you'd care to predict.
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From: ckp2n@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Christina Powell)
Subject: Re: 2 movie questions
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:01:56 GMT

eiswirth@vixvax.mgi.com  writes:
> 
> Second question:
> 
> 	Does anyone remember the name of a movie that came out a few years
> 	ago starring Ron Silver as this guy who's married to an immigrant
> 	as well as a fabulous redhead (Lena Olin, I think)?
> 
Enemies, A Love Story, I think (though I haven't seen it).

Chris
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: the year ahead
Date: 10 Jan 93 16:01:19 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

PR>I'm just adding a few titbits of information about some of the films
PR>Eric Walker mentioned.

Be my guest.  (References to BEAUTY AND THE BEAST completely
unintentional.)

PR>>     Mad Dog And Glory, starring Robert De Niro and Bill Murray [?!?]
PR>        De Niro plays a rather meek accountant who saves gangster Murray's
PR>        life and is rewarded with Murray's girlfriend.

The girlfriend is played by Uma Thurman, which certainly caught my
attention as I liked her in THE ADVENTURES OF BARON MUNCHAUSEN and
HENRY AND JUNE.  (Yes, I actually enjoyed her *acting* as well
as...umm...ahem.)
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