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From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Savage Dragon (was: Re: Image Bashing -- Why???)
Date: 5 Oct 92 01:56:04 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Oct3.050712.8761@sol.UVic.CA> jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Jim (Dev-Null) Cowling) writes:
>In article <80957@ut-emx.uucp> aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink) writes:
>
>>	Finally, have any of you read Larsen's Savage Dragon?  The art
>>is high caliber while the story kicks with some real power.  True, some
>>of those names are really awful (SuperPatriot?  >>Mighty Man<<?!?), but the
>>plot more than makes up for little things like that.  I'm lookin' forward to
>>#3, personally.  Try it.  You may like it.
>
>Yup.  I was indifferent to (or hated) all the other titles, but I'm ashamed
>to admit that Savage Dragon is a cracking good super-hero title.  Competent
>art, competent story, non-cliched characters (for the most part), excellent
>dialogue -- the only problem is that it sort of validates Erik (Name Withheld)
>Larsen's public opinion on the non-artist writer.  He's not bad.  Definitely
>his work has improved since Spider-Man.  However, he needs to learn some
>tolerance and reduce his ego a bit.

Excuse my ignorance, but could someone fill me in on what Larsen's
opinion of the non-artist writer is?  I missed the "Name Withheld" letter
that I'm assuming this is from.  Thanks.

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute
Date: Wednesday, 30 Sep 1992 10:17:52 EST
From: <AERE7114@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Indignity War #6, SPOILERS
Distribution: na

Uh, I, uh don't want to sound like a total fool, but, uh, who was that chick?
Was I supposed to read Warlock's comic to know this?

Check six.
Paul
(The Great White North, damn it's cold up here)
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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: Happy, happy, joy joy take 3
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 22:31:07 GMT

Another good day in the world of Scav's comics.

Let's see.  I picked up Bone #1 (Since I may be meeting Jeff Smith tomorrow 
I figured it'd be a good idea.)  It was fun, not awesome but worthwhile.

I also got HellBlazer #27--the Gaiman issue.  Haven't readit yet but I got it!

I got a TICK T-Shirt. SPPPOOOOONNNNNN!!!!

AND I'm still excited about the HERO ALLIANCE SPECIAL!!!

---SCAVENGER

-- 
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           isn't it?                            |      (Internet/Usenet)
CHEKOV:  But, I wasn't in that episode!!!       | No matter where you go, there
     (from MST3K:The Wrath of Kahn)             |    you are."-Buckaroo Banzai 
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From: jcomeau@unixg.ubc.ca (Joe Comeau)
Subject: Re: Australian comic prices
Keywords: australian, comic, prices
Organization: UBC Pulmonary Research Lab., St. Paul's Hospital, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:13:19 GMT

In article <swindley.718004716@s1.elec.uq.oz.au> swindley@elec.uq.oz.au (Robert Swindley) writes:
>  In the top left hand corner (where all good price
>tags are placed) Marvel puts a little box saying
>
>' US    $1.25     (Can $2.50)  '
>
>                or whatever
>
>Now in Australia (which is of course where I live,
>a big high to everyone) that little white box has
>the following
>
>     '  AUS    $2.30  '
>
>              or whatever depending on the price
>
>   The question on everybody's lips  (ok really just
>mine)  is 
>   where was this comic printed??  Do marvel do a 
>       special print run just for Australia ??
>       Or do they think it's a foreign language
>       comic, and print it along side all the ones
>       done in Spanish ???
>
>   would anyone have any qualms about buying a 
>       comic printed in this way (if everything else
>       about it was in nm condition)?
>
>
>(p.s  This only applies to newstand comics.
>     Direct sales comics in australia are air freighted
>       in once a week)
>
>Ta Much for the help
>
>     Chengster   chengm@sun.mech.uq.oz.au


I'm from Canada, and I wouldn't buy a comic for collecting purposes that had
the Aus $  instead of teh US/Can one.  This is obviously a different printing
and I am curious where it is printed.  Most books are printed in Canada,
shipped to the US and then shipped back to Canada.  Kind of stupid eh? 

Are you books that are air shipped in the ones with the US/Can prices?
If so how much does a $1.25US book which has a $1.50 Can price sell for
in Australie?
From: andrewf@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Andrew Fong)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Marsume Sirow
Date: 30 Sep 92 01:13:04 GMT
Organization: Kralizec Dialup Unix Sydney: +61-2-837-1183 V.32

ken@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Primer) writes:


>    AS a big fan of Marsume Shirow(appleseed, Dominion,Black Magic) I
>was thrilled when I saw something about a book of his work
>coming out in the month of August. Well....August is over,
>has anyone seen this? It was priced in the 30-40$ range so it wasn't
>a regular comic.

Hi, its called Intron Depot and is being published by Dark Horse, I think.
I saw it in a comics order book and it was advertised in one of Dark Horse's
comics, Venus Wars or something.

Definitely hanging out for more Appleseed, Orion looks interesting.



						Andrew

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From: maguire@copland.jpl.nasa.gov (Kevin Maguire)
Subject: Re: Why no Spidey articles?
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:03:20 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.014327.12047@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>,
glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gordon Locke  ) wrote:
> 
> 	Am I the only rec.arts.comics.misc reader who reads Spider-Man
> (besides for collecting)?  The only thing I've seen on this newsgroup
> recently that related to the web-slinger was stuff about the new 2099
> title by Peter David (which I think looks very promising).
> 


Spectacular Spider-Man is indeed one of Marvel's best books at the current 
time.  Anybody enjoying the type of spandex head-shrinking going on in 
GL:Mosaic owes it to themselves to check out some back issues of SSM and
start
picking up the current ones.  Back issues should be cheap - the art isn't
by
a fanboy favorite.

I've dropped all the other Spidey titles for now, beacuse right now they
suck.
Somebody let us know when they come back to being any good (though I will
try adjectiveless Spider-Man issues by certain creative teams if they
continue
to use the LOTDK format).

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kevin Maguire                         No, not THAT Kevin Maguire
maguire@copland.jpl.nasa.gov          I'm a rocket scientist, not an artist
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From: mcollins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Killans - First And Last And Always)
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: Annotation 34 repost again
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: sandman annotation
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 16:51:25 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.174339.1@fnalo.fnal.gov> morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (Inherit the Elmo) writes:
>
>
>Page 17 panel 6:  Even assuming that all four women are capable of
>menstruation, and assuming that Hazel and Foxglove aren't in sync, it's only
>about 50% probable that any one of them would be menstruating at any given
>time (based on a period lasting five days in 30, which is a simplification).
>Given that Hazel and Fox are in sync, and Thessaly and Wanda are incapable,
>it's really only about a 1 in 6 chance that menstrual blood would be available.
>This is perhaps the first time that Gaiman has had a story point depend purely
>on luck.

Yes, but by this point, we already *know* that Foxglove is menstruating. That's
how Hazel knows she is pregnant - Focglove has started and she hasn't.
Doesn't make it any more of a coincidence, but at least Gaiman worked it into
the overall plot elegantly rather then just crassly calling on it at this
point.

Mike
From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Sandman dream artists (no pun intended)
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:57:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsl.1992Oct5.185753.327
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <senuwfW00WB4ADHfJB@andrew.cmu.edu>, "Steven M. Stadnicki" <ss7m+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> Who would you *most* like to see do an issue (or issues) of Sandman,
> and on what theme?  (Assuming you could find a theme for said artist)

The artist:	Yoshitaka Amano.
The story:	The resolution of the Loki/Susano-O cliffhanger from
		Season of Mists.
-- 
			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y
			The Incredible Man-with-no-Life
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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Miracleman #23: Afterthinks
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 07:13:51 GMT

I reread Miraclemen #23 the other day, and had a couple of minor
afterthoughts.  I'd missed noticing, the first time I read it,
that "kidding" was an all-purpose swear word because, like "what
the kid", it was a reference to Bates.

It also struck me, even more forcibly than it did upon first
reading, that Miracleman would have been hard put to come up
with a *less* gentle or effective way to introduce YM to the
twenty-first century.  Was he *trying* to create an enemy, or
has he really lost that much touch with what he was?

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

   God helpe the man so wrapt in Errours endless traine  -- Edmund Spenser
From: tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Deus Imperator)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: YEARGH! The PLayboy returneth!
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:24:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvIDxn.3ov
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In article <92276.105223U16244@uicvm.uic.edu> <U16244@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>
>Stark (Die you fucking playboy bastard) lives?  Stark!!! (Die you fucking playb
>oy bastard) Lives!!!  STARK (DIE YOU FUCKING PLAYBOY BASTARD) LIVES!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Someone call Hanover Fist.  I've got a job for him...
>
>DPW
>
>Actually, Mister Stark was a wonderful man when he was alive... AWWW GIVE ME
>A BREAK!!!  Shootings too good for him.  Hanging's to good for him!  He
>should be ripped to pieces then burned alive!!!  STAAAAARRRK!!!  IIIII'M
>GONNNA KIIILLLLLL YYYYOOOOOUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

???...
I'd call it a personal problem...

-- 
I don't mind being the smartest	    / Thanatos, DeathUrge, Master of Unknown
man in the world...I just wish it   \ Time and Space tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu 
wasn't this one...	       	    / "No, I don't know how much unknown is... 
	-Ozymandias 		    \	...THAT'S THE POINT!" 
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From: morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (Lake Elmo, MN)
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: Annotation 34 repost again
Organization: Calm Blue Water...and a Muskie the Size of Boise
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 21:57:10 GMT
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NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Oct3.210201.5436@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver) writes:
> Neil Gaiman: "George Pratt went on holiday before he finished inking the book.
>              Dick Giordano simply inked the last four pages, going for a style
>              similar to that which George had used."
> 

	Wow.  Dick G.'s a fantastic mimic.  There might just be hints of
difference, but they are not very big (some of the shading is less scribbled).
	Personally, I would have preferred to see Giordano ink the whole issue
in his natural style :-)
-- 
"Heavier than air flying machines are impossible."                             
--Lord Kelvin, c. 1895.                                                        
  
elmo (morrow@physics.rice.edu,morrow@fnal.fnal.gov)
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From: torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair)
Subject: Re: Scheduled Creator Appearances (09/21/92)
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 06:06:57 GMT

	The Comics Buyer's Guide, available at your local comic book store,
lists appearances, every week, by date.  
	In addition, this newspaper is probably the only place where readers
can have there points answered by professionals.  John Byrne is a constant
letter writer, and others have written when they had a point to make.  (I'm
sure most of you remember the Name Withheld/Artist-Writer debate of last 
Summer).  For $2.50, it is the best investment a collector can make, if only 
for the advertisements.

	Torsten at Omaha
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From: jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling)
Subject: Re: Sandman #43 (no major spoilers)
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 06:13:51 GMT

In article <1agp01INNd36@uwm.edu> grendel@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Koschei the Deathless) writes:
>
>One thing really stood out for me in this issue: Death has really lost
>a lot of weight.
 
Destruction has lost a lot of weight, too.  Has Death?  I don't recall seeing
a big change, myself.  

-------
Scowling Jim Cowling
Creative Writing Department, University of Victoria (opinions disassociated)
America borders on greatness -- Canada!
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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Re: Not really Re: What constitutes a "classic" character
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 02:05:22 GMT

The kid had seen the movie, but it wasn't part of his subconscious like those 
of us who were alive when the movie came out.
     Dave Van Domelen, made a boo-boo in my last bigsig.  It should be:
     "It is a simple thing to tell Freshman Physics Majors and Physics Grad 
Students apart, at a glance.  The former resemble a rabbit in your headlights.
The LATTER resemble the same rabbit after the passage of time."
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From: friedman@junk.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark "Crimson" Friedman)
Subject: Re: Shooter on TV
Organization: NAIVE - New And Improved Virtual Environment
Distribution: rec.arts.comics.misc.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 23:41:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.172837.28955@morgan.ucs.mun.ca> cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  8823239) writes:
>He called them "Hot" and "Fan favorites"...

These Advertising Words (tm) always make me hurl...

							- Mark

-- 
Mark "Klone Crimson" Friedman is friedman@cis.ohio-state.edu .................
"There is nothing former   "Beat poets,    "If you put a hungry ferret in your
 about King Crimson."       not children."  trousers, he'll run around..."
 - Robert Fripp, 5/11/90    - anonymous     - Nigel Tufnel (Spinal Tap)
From: solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay)
Subject: Re: Miracleman #23: Afterthinks
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 22:24:03 GMT

In article <10617@baird.cs.strath.ac.uk> imcc@cs.strath.ac.uk (Iain McCord) writes:
>
>  The difference between MM, KM and MW may be due to their relative experience.
>
>Bates spent most of his time in as KM, and ended up with a split personality.
>Moran spent most of his time as Moran, and ....
>Leer spent time regularly swaping between bodies,  of the three she coped with
>the situation best.
> 
>Perhaps the answer is that regular swaping is needed to keep the personalities
>of all bodies in sync.  This may be a flaw in the Gargunza adaptation of the
>Qys technology.  Remember that during the dream programing only the miracle
>bodies were in use.

Another possibility: Lear found out the truth very early on (in
'63, just before Dragonslayer). She might have been more open to
the idea of multiple bodies; she'd just been awoken from an
improbable fantasy world anyway, and wouldn't be very set in her
thought patterns. Moran, on the other hand, learned it only after
living twenty years as an *extremely* normal person (and thus
might well have been less able to accept a strange new reality).
I think Moran coped by splitting his life into a "normal", Moran,
half and a "Miracle" half; he had to think of them as two
different people in order to cope. Actually, the problems may go
back even further. Note that he blacked out all of his "Miracle"
memories in '63 (or was it '62?); the problems may have gone back
that far.

It'll be interesting to see how Dauntless copes. On the one hand,
he's more or less the same subjective age as Lear was when she
found out the truth. On the other hand, he's learning a lot more
truths, and more traumatic ones, than she did. Notice that at the
end of #23, he changed into the human body when confronted by too
much strangeness. Like Moran, he may well divorce the two
personalities, perhaps "killing" one of them.

Further complicating this: He idolizes MM (and perhaps loves him
as well). MM thinks of himself as two people (and killed off the
mortal side); that may influence Dauntless to do the same.
-- 
Andrew M. Solovay       "Work is the curse of the drinking class."
solovay@netcom.com			--Wilde

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From: acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Arthur C. Adams)
Subject: Re: Liefield stuff
Organization: The Great Beyond
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 11:41:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.185755.26073@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> klein@frith.egr.msu.edu (Jeffrey Klein) writes:
>>daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom) writes:
>>> I have been wondering how Liefield even got into the business.
>
>I heard that he drew a lot on his own, then showed some of his drawings
>to someone in the business, and they gave him a job.

Oh, did you miss the point.

I think that the point of the question was 
why was Liefeld good enough to get into the business?
-- 
Proud to be part of the cultural elite!
What the gamemasters wilt shall be the whole of the law.
	- Motto of the Hellfire Club, live-action roleplaying GM's
Arthur C. Adams (not the comic-book artist)                        <fnord>
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From: jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling)
Subject: How to post to r.a.c.info?
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 06:30:05 GMT

Joel Tscherne gave me his blessing to take over the New Releases list, so 
twice today I have attempted to post it to r.a.c.info, with no luck.  If the
group is moderated, how often is it updated?  Or must I actually mail my
posting to someone?  Or am I totally confused?

-------
Scowling Jim Cowling
Creative Writing Department, University of Victoria (opinions disassociated)
America borders on greatness -- Canada!
-------
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From: jlmiller@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Re: Elfquest: Hidden Years #3 (spoilers)
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 17:28:49 GMT

Um, the previous post on ElfQuest: Hidden Years 3 (by Dani, I think) summarized
a story slightly clost to, but quite different from, the one I read yesterday
when I bought the book.

The child Tyleet raises is only a "mutant" in the sense that he has a red
splotch over his eye. This makes him less than genetically perfect so the
humans abandon him. There is _no_ evidence of any Marvel mutant crap
here...point in fact, he seems perfectly normal...except for the extraordinary
abilities he is _taught_ by the Wolfriders.
In addition, he doesn't die young, he lives a long (for a human) life and is
quite successful. (That's all I'm gonna say, no real spoilers here.)

I thought it was a _great_ story...and the art was fantastic. It really went a
long way toward establishing Tyleet's character. But...am I wrong, or was this
really close to a story in a Blood of 10 Cheifs book? And the art was
beautiful.

Next issue looks interesting two. Ember's teenage rebellion!

shade,
jonathan.
From: pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Paul Michael Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Upcoming Image Comics (no flames please)
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:09:54 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>>Spawn #6
>
>Spawn #4 just came out last week. I don't expect to see #6 until November.
>McFarlane is the closest Image has to someone who can make deadlines.

Yeah, November if it's on time.  We won't see this until December.  Remember,
Moore is writing.  I'm sure they're going to hype this up BIGTIME before it
comes out.  Also, McFly has to work off of someone else's script.  He can't
make it up as he goes along anymore...

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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: Sandman #43
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 04:48:17 GMT

conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach):
> Someone doesn't want Destruction found.
>
>Why not Destruction himself?  It would be out of character for him to harm
>family or relatives, but blowing up things and killing people in the process
>is in his job description.

No, it's in his job description, but it's out of character for the
personality we've seen.  Besides, it was fairly clear from the scene
where he enters his gallery that it was coming as a surprise to him.

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

   The inability of snakes to count is actually a refusal, on their part,
    to appreciate the Cardinal Number system. -- "Actual Facts"
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From: kieran@cmatter.physics.indiana.edu (kieran)
Subject: Re: CEREBUS 161: Sitting roaches
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:24:45 GMT

In article <1992Oct3.204849.25797@midway.uchicago.edu> lf7z@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <CMM.0.90.2.717791299.jonnya@urd.ifi.uio.no> 
>  jonnya@ifi.uio.no (Jonny Axelsson) writes:
>>
>>Cerebus 161 seems to affirm that the Roach is the black pawn at E7, making
>>its taking by the white queen rather omious. But I suspect the taking is
>>non-fatal (partly by the over-obviousness, the chess figurines, the
>
>I assumed this referred to his liaison with Blossom, didn't appear to be fatal
>to me :^)
>

     No, not fatal, but it did effectively remove him from the position
as the leader of the mini-rebellion against the Cirinists.  I can't see
this new love-struck Roach shooting automatic crossbow bolts at anyone.
(BTW, who is he supposed to resemble now?)

     I am vaguely saddened by the turn of events.  It seems that the
chess match was some sort of culmination or pivotal turn of events.  After
Cerebus looses the Roach is defused, the giant stone Cerebus collapses,
the Pigts are nearly wiped out and Cerebus is hurled from the ninth (tenth?)
sphere.  Thatcher decides to go give Cirin the news; I think if the game
had gone another way she might have decided to betray Cirin somehow.
In loosing the chess game Cerebus seems to have lost on a more cosmic
level.  

      I find that disappointing since I don't want to read another 140
issues about inevitable defeat.  And to loose in such a stupid way!  (The
Scholar's Mate!)

      Oh well.  I hope that I am wrong.

                             Kieran Mullen


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