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From: 12mwingfield@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: <None>
Date: 3 Sep 92 21:17:58 GMT
Organization: Gallaudet University

Uh... of that rec.sports.snowboarding.  I didn't get it, since it was deleted
from my old news.  So, can anyone out there help your own fellow snowboader?


Wingnuts

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Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: cloyd_j@apollo.hp.com (John Cloyd)
Subject: re: sunday river request
Originator: cloyd_j@face_plant
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:35:48 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Apollo Division - Chelmsford, MA

    Much good, accurate Sunday River info posted so far.  
Nine hours, though, is a long drive to ski *anywhere*,
IMO, so I'll give you a little more info before you decide

- The descriptions of the terrain posted have been right
on target, it's pretty much ego skiing, definitely not
the "expert" (tm) mountain it claims to be. It's ideally
suited for intermediate to advanced level skiers who 
prefer "slopes" instead of "trails".

- SR makes a lot of snow, so it's conditions are usually
quite reliable, a major factor in selecting a N.E. area !

- SR is really into promos: often they give discounts
and even free lift tickets to people showing out_of_state
drivers licenses.(For this reason, many of us fortunate 
enough to have Me. licenses avoid it like the plague)

- It was pointed out that SR is not close to other Maine
areas, and with the exception of Mt. Abram this is true,
but the areas in N.Conway N.H. (esp. Wildcat) are within
an hour or so, there is more to do there than in Bethel.

If I were thinking of driving 9 hours, though, I don't 
think it would be to SR. If you're heading to Maine for
a week, I'd advise you to look into Sugarloaf, as it has
more varied terrain, lots of on mountain nightlife, and
avoids much of the southern N.E. mob due to its location.
Otherwise I'd spend the week dividing my time between
Sugarbush, Stowe & Mad Reef...uh, River (if snow is good).


From: chapman@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Larry Chapman)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:22:38 GMT
Subject: Re: SNOW IN COLORADO
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.skiing


Surprise!

It all melted in three days . . . .

-- LSC
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: aab@progress.COM (Adam A. Backman)
Subject: Re: SNOWBOARDING: Burton
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:42:46 GMT

Gen.M.Kanai@dartmouth.edu (Gen M. Kanai) writes:

>Any snowboarders out there, clue me in.  I just started boarding last
>year and bought myself an AsymAir, which I love.  I was using the flex
>binding cause I like the support and I am moving to hardboots/plate
>bindings, cause I think thats the wave of the future for everything
>except the pipe and living in the East means ice.  

>My question is this.  Has everyone seen the new Burton inserts?  Are
>they crazy?  I know they tested it for a year ans ironed out some
>troubles that they sadi they had, but the physics of this design is
>nuts!  I realize that now there is preactically infinite degree
>adjustment, but wont the heel and toe totally flex off the base?  All
>the inserts are in the middle and plus they have three screws right
>next to each other, which just begs to be stripped in my opinion.  

>I had problems with my bindings coming off the board in the toe and
>heel with last year's model.  THis new year's model looks to be even
>worse.  

>Has anyone tried it?  What do they think?  I feel royally screwed over
>because I had to hunt for last year's binding and now nothing is
>interchangeable with my board, which was the atraction of Burton. 
>Nikon's new 92 auto focus lenses fit on their 1967 cameras.  These are
>the ideas that make or break reputations and companies.  I might switch
>to Nitro. What have people ridden and what do they like?

>e-mail or post
>gen.kanai@dartmouth.edu


Gen -

I know what you are saying (about the new inserts) but you can still get
"last years" plates from burton and there are now several other mfg's that
use the same hole pattern.  I believe that you are not alone in your 
frustration with Jake and the boys at Burton but I say vote with your
dollar and buy something else.  With 200+ boards this year you should be
able to find one to your liking.  I currently ride an Asym Air with Plates
and Raicle (sp) Snowboarders and I am happy but this WILL be my last Burton
as I think their "new" boards are just another attempt to lock people into
their stuff.  The only thing I would make sure any board that I bought had
was inserts.  Boards without inserts are always popping bindings and needing
repairs (according to my local board shop).  Just My opinion...

-Adman
From: steves@cserver.plexus.com (Steve Spelbring)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: XC: Kastle RXC vs. Fischer RCS
Summary: Kastle RXC vs. Fischer RCS
Keywords: XC, Kastle, Fischer, RCS, cross country
Date: 1 Sep 92 22:31:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: idea2.steves.715386692
Organization: Plexus Corp. -- Neenah Wisconsin


I am looking for validation of some information concerning
some cross-country skis.  I have been told that Kastle RXC
Skating skis and Fischer RSC Skating skis are manufactured
by the same company using the same construction and materials.
It is just a matter of whose graphics gets put on the top.
Is this fact or just a vicious rumor by the shop owner that
wants me to buy Kastle?

With that question aside, how are your experiences with these
two skis?

Please include your ski length preference and type of
snow/trail conditions that you are basising your judgements on.

I will post a summary if there is enough interest.

Thanks in advance!
--

                Steven S. Spelbring
      VOICE:    (414) 751-3274
   INTERNET:    steves@cserver.plexus.com
       UUCP:    spool!cserver!steves
From: czw70@ccc.amdahl.com (CA Whitfield)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: WANTED: January accommodation in Courchevel (F)
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:19:35 GMT
Reply-To: czw70@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (CA Whitfield)
Organization: Amdahl UK


Title says it all:  I am looking for accommodation in any part of
Courchevel in late January.  Anything considered, catered chalet
preferred.  No transfer required as we prefer to drive.  Not fussy
about size, I'll find the people to fill it OK.

Please email replies to czw70@juts.ccc.amdahl.com.

Thanks,
CAW
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Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay)
Subject: Re: Whistler postcard? December conditions?
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean, VA
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:50:54 GMT

In article <R9B6PB1w165w@wildrose.infoserv.com> rkf@wildrose.infoserv.com (Ray Fink) writes:
>Anybody have an unused picture postcard of the Whistler BC ski area
>that they'd be willing to send me?  Or are there any readers up in that
>area who'd be willing to buy one for me?  I'll reimburse purchase,
>postage, etc.  E-mail me and we can work out the particulars...

For some pix of Whistler and a desc of the typical year-round conditions,
check out the Sept. Issue of "Skiing"(Or is it the Fall ish--anyways, its the
one that is titled "Gear of The Year" issue). Whistler is their focused
destination area for that issue and they've got an ~10 pager on it and 
Blackcombe. Sounds great!!! They've got me sold already.
I just wish I could afford to go...

---Steve
-- 
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"You see, I'm kind of this control freak who likes to create his own
personal hells before the real one can get to him. I like to beat hell
to hell so to speak".--Spalding Gray "Monster in a box"
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: bowers@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Al Bowers)
Subject: Re: XC: Kastle RXC vs. Fischer RCS
Organization: NASA Dryden, Edwards, Cal.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:09:55 GMT

In article <steves.715386692@idea2> steves@cserver.plexus.com (Steve Spelbring) writes:

>I am looking for validation of some information concerning
>some cross-country skis.  I have been told that Kastle RXC
>Skating skis and Fischer RSC Skating skis are manufactured
>by the same company using the same construction and materials.
>It is just a matter of whose graphics gets put on the top.
>Is this fact or just a vicious rumor by the shop owner that
>wants me to buy Kastle?

I know that two years ago that was not the case.  I would tend to
disbelieve it now, as well.  An easy way to tell is to take identical
length RCS and RXC skis and put them base to base.  Squeeze them
together.  I would expect the Kastle to be stiffer than the Fischer.
Also examine the side walls.  See if the side cut is identical while
you have them togther.

>With that question aside, how are your experiences with these
>two skis?

I've never skiied Kastle, but I have skated the Fischer.  The fischer
has a long tip feel to it.  They seemed to like a smooth ryhthmic
glide.  I tended to get tripped up when I got tired as I couldn't keep
up (probably my problem, not the skiis).

>Please include your ski length preference and type of
>snow/trail conditions that you are basising your judgements on.

I like 200s for skating.  The long length still glides better.  But I
also ski Rossi Carbons.  These are reputed to feel short (do they
ever!), so the long length might be to try and make up for that.  Most
of my skating is from Badger Pass Yosemite.  Nicely groomed, mid 30s
temp, and the base was (as usual) Sierra Cement.

--
"But the fact that a 1938 touring bodied Alfa Romeo I once had is
worth $1 million sometimes bothers the hell out of me.  It's a
personal problem."                                     -Phil Hill
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From: mueller@delta.fsu.edu (Frank Mueller)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: SNOWBOARDING --> rec.sport.snowboarding exists!
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:41:05 GMT
Organization: Florida State University Computer Science

Wake up, guys, there already is rec.sport.snowboarding out there. Ask
your local net server to add this group if you don't have it. I think
it surely makes sense to speparate some discussions, such as "what
board is best for boardheads". Most skiiers do not snowboard. (And
most snowboarders do not ski anymore. I will probably start some
religious flame with these statements:-) And equipment is quite different.
But the discussion about resort is truely something skiiers and boarders
have in common.

Frank
mueller@cs.fsu.edu
From: hkelly@edsr.eds.com (Kelly Shuldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Deer Valley and Park City
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:30:51 GMT
Organization: EDS Research


>>Bland?? Utah not known for (good) cuisine?? There are some excellent local
>>dishes. Just pick up some of the Mormon Cookbooks. You would not believe
>>what can be done with Jello(tm). There's something about a good Jello/Cool
>>Whip/Marshmallow/m&m salad. Or how about deep fried Hostess Twinkies rolled
>>in confectioners sugar. Where else can you get that? Great for those midwinter
>>family home evenings.
>>
>>Ski somewhere else.
>>
>>-klaus 

Ah, but you've left out the most important ingredient in really fine Utah
cuisine--the venerable can of Campbells Cream of XXX Soup, where XXX can be
Mushroom, Chicken, Celery, etc.  No Utah evening meal is complete without a
steaming casserole made from noodles, canned tuna, and a can of this fine
soup!  Add this to the jello, and you can feed a family of 19 for pennies!

h. kelly shuldberg
hkelly@edsr.eds.com
Albuquerque, NM
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: long hot summer
From: grspangler@ualr.edu
Date: 26 Aug 92 08:20:26 GMT
Organization: University of Arkansas at Little Rock

In article <1992Aug24.233348.20531@usho93.hou281.chevron.com>, hdnea@usho92.hou281.chevron.com (David Neal) writes:
> The Good, the Rad and the Gnarly's not bad. Just fast forward
> through all the parts of the geezer making funny faces
> at the camera. 
> 
> 
> In fact, all the Mike Stump movies I have seen were fine.
> 
> 
> For that matter, so were the Warren Miller movies.

does anyone know where i can rent some of these in little rock arkansas???

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Disclaimer: What?!?!?  I didn't say that!!!!!
From: shla@spf.trw.com (Sheila Wallace)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Deer Valley and Park City
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:27:18 GMT
Organization: TRW Sensor Data Processing Center, Redondo Beach, CA

In article <LAUNCE.92Aug26085334@apollo.med.utah.edu> launce@apollo.med.utah.edu (Tri-Ungulate) writes:
>In article <2A9ABFFD.5BB7@deneva.sdd.trw.com> shla@spf.trw.com (Sheila Wallace) writes:
>   >Why would you have to 'settle' for Park City, when Alta is
>   >only 45 minutes away?  I stayed in Park City last year during
>   >March 7-14, and the snow was much...]
>
>NO NO NOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOO!!!!!
>
>Stay in Park City!  It takes more than 45' when you consider the
>horrible traffic in & out of Park City and the problems of climbing
>Little Cottonwood behind a line of cars stuck behind the UTA bus!!

[rest of stupid flame (IMHO) deleted]

Give me a break!  All I was saying was that you _could_ conceivably
have the best of both worlds.  There's no need to rule out going
to Alta, especially if the snow is much better there, or if you
really have your heart set on going there.  The original
poster sounded like he had completely ruled out Alta and had
decided to 'settle' for Park City, and I thought that wasn't 
necessary.  Your flames are really out of line here.

>damn californicators
>
damn ootahns!  I suspect that you secretly covet skiing Alta and
are just trying to shorten the lift lines for yourself....

Sheila


-- 
Sheila Wallace		(shla@spf.trw.com)
TRW, One Space Park, R2/2162, Redondo Beach, CA 90278
From: bruno@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bruno Melli)
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 15:48:01 GMT
Subject: Re: Buying First Skis
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.skiing

> I would like to get shiny new skis, but would consider used demo skis -
> what are the advantages/disadvantages to these?

If you buy demo skis you need to compare the height and width of 
the edges with a new similar model. You can look at demo bases and they'll
look flawless. Then the first time you hit a rock you realize that
the base looked so smooth because it was grinded to the core...
You can buy top of the line equipement for around $450 during end of 
season sales. You might get pretty close during early season sales too.

A friend of mine bought a pair of Hart SL (one of the top rated slalom 
ski last year) for $200. Add $150 for a pair of Marker MRR.
That was at Ski Deals in Boulder.

It will be interesting to see what the current craze on Cap and monocoque 
skis will do to the price of conventional skis...

bruno.
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: mwallace@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark Wallace)
Subject: Re: SNOWBOARDING
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 03:09:08 GMT

crispin@watson.ibm.com (Crispin Cowan) writes:

>In article <1992Sep2.155701.15518@Cadence.COM> noah@Cadence.COM (Noah Ru
z) writes:
>>rec.skiing. I'm hoping to maybe see if I can
>>start a rec.snowboard this 92/93 season. I
>>tried before but it was at the wrong time!!!!!!
>>Anybody out there with me on this idea?????????

>I am a die-hard snowboarder.  So much so that I've completely given up
>skiing.  Yet I find the idea of rec.snowboarding compleatly bogus.  ALL
>of the information that I want as a snowboarder is common to the
>information needs of skiers, except for the resorts that do/don't allow
>boards, and that just isn't a significant enough reason to make a
>separate group.

>Go ahead and shread.  Love your chosen sport.  But stop trying to
>segregate us from the skiers.

I agree with Crispin.  I'm also an avid boarder but there is
just too much in common.  This subject has been hashed out
several times in the past season and the idea was throughly
doused.  This is an open forum we can talk about anything
we want here, so boarders post on.

Mark Wallace, Castle Rock, CO
7 weeks until keystone opens, hey wait a minute,they're one of
two resorts in the state that don't allow boarders!

Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: crispin@watson.ibm.com (Crispin Cowan)
Subject: Re: Beginner's silly questions (!)
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 22:58:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
Keywords: invasions

In article <1992Sep1.131733.1012@odin.corp.sgi.com> jym@sgi.com () writes:
>Bob Lombard says:
>On a serious
>note, there are far more Californians moving to Colorado right now,
>than the opposite.

Would someone care to elaborate on this claim?  I've seen several
postings complaining about the "Californicating" of Colorado, but have
no idea what they're referring to.  Sure, I'd love to move to Colorado,
too, but how many high-tech research labs are there in Aspen, anyways?

Crispin
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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 3 Sep 1992 15:14:45 CDT
From: <U59985@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject:    Good Places to Ski this Year

Hello everyone,

I'm new to this group, but I've spent some time here catching up on all the art
icles. I was just wondering. What are some good places to ski? I know there are
 a lot of personal opinions out there so let me list some criteria to narrow th
e field.


1. My friends and I are all intermediates skiers. We can do black diamonds but
not easily (depends on where we are).

2. Lift ticket prices are probably the biggest consideration. I would like to
ski Vail or Aspen, but I don't think I'd want to pay $40+ for a lift ticket.
Maybe this is why I like Utah so much. BTW, please suggest good places other
than Utah as we have gone there for the last 2 seasons and want to try somewher
e new.

3. We live on the west coast and Colorado is probably as far as we want to go.
So I'm sorry to say all the East coast places (Killington, etc.) are out.

4. Has anyone heard good this about British Columbia. As of now, this is where
I would like to go. But it's pretty far and I want to know it if would be worth
the trip (I live in Los Angeles).

5. Preferably we would like to go somewhere that offers some variety. We consid
er ski vacations to be a big deal, so we would like to be able to go to several
different resorts during our visit. Utah is a good example, all the major ski
resorts are within close driving distance of each other.

I know I'm asking a lot, but I would appreciate it if anyone out there can give
me any kind of information at all.

Thomas
From: jskaggs@slate.mines.colorado.edu (JoJo was a man...)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Custom Boots
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:09:51 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

In article <1992Aug26.180700.16422@infonode.ingr.com> dlb@sunloaf.dazixco.ingr.com writes:
>Is it generally possible to customize boots that weren't originally
>custom jobs?
>
>I have some San Marco's that have been through 3 moderate seasons and
>are getting loose.  Can they be salvaged or are new boots the only
>answer?
>
>Also, can anyone recommend a good custom boot fitter in Boulder
>(or less preferably, Denver).
	
Try Doc's Ski & Sport, on Baseline South of University.

>thanks.

Yer Welcome

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From: chris@chinook.atd.ucar.edu (Chris Webster)
Subject: Re: El Nino???
Reply-To: chris@chinook.atd.ucar.edu
Organization: Research Aviation Facility, NCAR, Boulder, CO
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:25:02 GMT

ssh@snow.boulder.ibm.com (Steve Hultquist (347-3994)) writes:
>
>So, Chris, what's happening this year?!
>

There will be good skiing somewhere, and with enough money you
too can enjoy it. ;^)

Sorry, a forecaster I'm not.  But I'm expecting more of the same
in Colorado.

The ocean temperature has been cooling recently, so the El Nino
is probably tapering off (i.e. there can be small oscillations
in the ocean temperature, and it might rise again).

--Chris
From: ssh@snow.boulder.ibm.com (Steve Hultquist (347-3994))
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Crested Butte - Free Skiing???
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:01:59 GMT
Reply-To: <ssh@vnet.ibm.com>
Distribution: na
Organization: ISSC Boulder

>>>>> On 26 Aug 92 21:08:28 GMT, jbaker%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (John Baker) said:

John> I have heard that Crested Butte, CO will offer free skiing
John> without restrictions from Nov. 20 to Dec. 18, 1992.  Has
John> anyone heard anything about this offer??

Yep.  And it's true.  If the snow's anything like last year, it will be
incredible!  I skied there on the last weekend, and ripped some great snow,
even on the back side where the double-diamonds were open.  I doubt that the
snow we got this week is a harbinger, but who knows?!

For those who haven't skied Crusty Butt, it's got the only steep skiing in
Colorado that compares favorably to places like Snowbird.  If someone wants to
argue that, great; I'd love to find some other places around here!
--
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My, that back range looks great with snow!                         ISSC Boulder
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