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From: maulana@duteca8.et.tudelft.nl (Ikbal Arek Lumajang)
Subject: Re: BADAC CACAD
Keywords: cerpen
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 12:34:47 GMT

*** operasi BADAC CACAD bag. 2***

  Pagi ini, seperti pagi-pagi lainnya, sebelum guru datang, kelas selalu rame. Ada
yang ayik ngerumpi, ada yang ndangdutan pakek meja, ada yang asyik ngomongin
politik (membicarakan perkembangan terakhir hubungan Charles sama Diana). Ketika
Pak Pomo mucul di pintu, seisi kelas segera jadi tenang. Pak Pomo memang termasuk
salah satu guru yang disegani.
  Pak Pomo mengeluarkan kertas ulangan anak-anak dari tas hitamnya.
  "Bapak bangga terhadap kalian. Hasil ulangan kalian bagus-bagus. Mudah-mudahan
ini semua karena kalian belajar dengan rajin. Bapak berharap kalian selalu dan
meningkatan kerajinan kalian dalam belajar. 
   Dua minggu lagi, ulangan lagi. Kali ini essay, karena itu belajarlah dengan
rajin." 
   Dan, reaksi anak-anak SMA itu, ya "Waahh..." Perasaan lega mendengar
hasil ulangan yang bagus-bagus, segera saja jadi rontok.
   "...Tapi kalian jangan khawatir, bahan-bahannya akan Bapak usahakan yang
kalian sudah menguasainya," kata Pak Pomo sebelum memulai pelajarannya tentang
gelombang elektromagnetik.

                   * * *

   Pak Pomo membagikan lembaran soal-soal  pada anak-anak yang kebanyakan
berwajah tegang. Beberapa anak yang telah memperoleh kertas ulangan
menggumam,"Lho, ini kan soal-soal yang kita bikin sendiri dulu."
   "Soalnya persis."
   Seisi kelas ramai berkomentar. Ada yang tersenyum senang, ada yang kecewa. 
Pak Pomo tersenyum.
   "Enakkan jadinya, kalian jadi bisa dapat 8 atau 9 lagi."
   "Yaa... tapi kan sudah lupa, soal ini kan sudah lama sekali, Pak,"keluh Endun.
   "Sebulan kok lama?"Pak Pomo tersenyum.

                   * * *
   Seminggu berkutnya hasil ulangan dibagikan, hasilnya, seperti biasa: banyak
yang mengharukan.
   Pak Pomo nampak heran sekali ketika membagikan hasil ulangan ini,"Kalian ini
bagaimana. Soal yang sama, semula hasilnya bagus, diteskan lagi secara essay,
hasilnya berantakan."
   "Pak, boleh tanya,"Si Endun mengacungkan jarinya.
   "Ya."
   "Ada anak yang membocorkan rahasia kami?" si Endun senyum-senyum.
   "Rahasia apa?"
   "Kok Bapak sampai ngasih ulangan lagi dengan soal-soal yang sama."
   "Nggak. Cuman Bapak heran, penasaran, kamu yang jarang belajar, di kelas
ngantuk melulu ini, kok bisa dapat 9. Jangan-jangan ada yang nggak beres. Makanya
Bapak test bener apa nggak dugaan Bapak. Ternyata  bener, ya kan?"
   Endun dan anak-anak lain yang memperoleh nilai buruk jadi pada lemes.
  
-Ikbal Maulana
From: regius@cs.utexas.edu (Regius S. Gunawan)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Subject: Re: 300% salary increase
Date: 28 Jan 93 00:48:59 GMT
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: levelland.cs.utexas.edu

Just out of curiosity, is the quoted numbers salary per month (of
course in Rupiah and per person :)?  How about other civil servants?
How are they doing now (esp since the oil price got kicked up again :)?
Do they gain net buying power?
Just curious.
^_^ regius ^_^
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
From: donsw@cs.cornell.edu (Donald Wihardja)
Subject: Re: What is the porblem ?
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:57:17 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.160824.17559@dsg.cs.tcd.ie> ahmed@dsg.cs.tcd.ie (Ahmed El-Habbash) writes:

>As I mentioned before in my posting " What is the problem ??", My
>posting was a response to the initial posting by Tahir Ijaz. I have
>never read nor written to "aci" before this posting. The reply was
>automatically sent to your group as it was sent to so many other groups
>on the net, as well. The first time to know that I had an interaction
>with your group was after I had received the email messages from the
>guards of the aci. After these email complaints, I started reading aci,
>with an intention to know something about the culture of this unique kind of
>people. Reading  aci latter, I discovered that there were other
>objections to some other posters; one of them is (Hsiahaan) who was
>asking about the stand of indonesia regarding the US attack on Iraq, and
>I was surprised by the replies. 

I would like to apologize to Ahmed. I didn't know you weren't the original
poster. 

I was under the impression that you were the same person as the
original poster and were stating your reason to post. My criticism was 
therefore a request so that ACI wont be put in the header of such debate
to avoid us being flooded by discussions on topic I don't care and don't
even have the basic starting point to examine the validity of. 

Donald Wihardja
-- 
CS Department, Cornell University
Ithaca, New York.
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
From: donsw@cs.cornell.edu (Donald Wihardja)
Subject: Re: cer-sil Re: No Subject
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:02:14 GMT

Yup, go ahead and post them, (but if you have pictures, how do you propose
to scan them, as GIF files??? That will be huge and bound to draw some
criticism. How about if you ever get around to scanning them, you can
ask if anybody want it to be e-mailed. If so, mail me one.

Donald

By the way, what is the title?

-- 
CS Department, Cornell University
Ithaca, New York.
From: utama@ee.tamu.edu (Peter Utama)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Subject: Re: Vocabulary [Was: Re: What is the porblem ?]
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:22:45 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University
NNTP-Posting-Host: ee.tamu.edu


In article <1993Jan26.150322.22204@cs.cornell.edu> donsw@cs.cornell.edu (Donald Wihardja) writes:
>
>Now would anybody tell me what "kesengsem" is? By its context, I would
>say it means "Becomes more involved".

I would say that "kesengsem" is more like "fall in love with".
If I am kesengsem, most likely because of a beautiful girl, 
I would keep thinking about her, how she looks, etc. 
But usually kesengsem is temporary, so I may say it's closer 
to "infatuated"
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

>
>Donald Wihardja
>
>
>
>-- 
>CS Department, Cornell University
>Ithaca, New York.

-peter
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Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
From: donsw@cs.cornell.edu (Donald Wihardja)
Subject: Vocabulary [Was: Re: What is the porblem ?]
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:03:22 GMT

>>understanding, and perhaps because ... kapok ?  What is kapok by the
>>way? ha ha.                                             ^^^^^
>
>I don't know the exact word in English (can somebody help me ?)
>What I mean with kapok in that sentence:
>You sent a mail to this group and you got private mail saying don't do
>that but do this. Because of that you don't want to involve anymore.
>In fact I was wrong, you more involve because that private mail which
>mean you are not kapok but you are kesengsem with this group.

I think kapok can be loosely translated to "have had enough" and
"regretted your previous action". As in the sentence:
After being caught red handed, (and being beaten up by the mob) the
thief becomes "kapok" and never steals anything again.

Now would anybody tell me what "kesengsem" is? By its context, I would
say it means "Becomes more involved".

Donald Wihardja



-- 
CS Department, Cornell University
Ithaca, New York.
From: aries@dutetvf.tudelft.nl (Aries Hackerman)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Subject: Re: tabrakan tanker (soc.culture.asean)
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:37:27 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology


 Hi, semua

 Mungkin buat yang tidak jelas mengenai tabrakan tanker, 
 postings di soc.culture.asean bisa membantu : 

---------
 10269) Re: Tanker on Fire in Straits of Malacca ~ 21 (Kelvin Goh)
 
 From: ygoh@fraser.sfu.ca (Kelvin Goh)
 Subject: Re: Tanker on Fire in Straits of Malacca
 Lines: 21
 
 ajpbart@adam.adelaide.edu.au (Paul Barter) writes:
 
 >Australian Radio has just reported that a Danish owned, Singapore registered
 >oil tanker has collided with another (empty) tanker at the northern end of
 >Straits of Malacca. The full tanker is on fire and has been abandoned by
 >its crew. It is carrying 100,000 tons of crude oil! It is a very large,
 >modern tanker!!!  Malaysian maritime and environmental officials are on
 >alert. Its name is 'The Navigator'. It is one of the world's largest
 >oil tankers. This latest accident appears to vindicate Malaysia's call
 >for tighter controls on shipping in the Strait. It was not known if
 >the ship was leaking oil or not.
 
 >Paul B.
 
 Here's the latest from CBC Morning News....
 
         The tanker is on fire and the sailors who abandoned ship 
	 were picked up by psssing ships.  Singapore has sent firefighters 
	 to fight the blaze and whether the tanker is leaking is still 
	 unknown.  There is 100,000 litres of crude oil in the tanker.  The tanker
	 is now drifting on the strait.
	 :end:

-----------------------------
 	 
10303) Fire burns on Drifting supertanker ~ 17 (dawei yip)

From: dyip@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (dawei yip)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean,soc.culture.singapore
Subject: Fire burns on Drifting supertanker

FIRE BURNS ON DRIFTING SUPERTANKER
----------------------------------

dated 25 January 1993

Tugs and firefighting vessels battled through the weekend to control a
fire onboard the Maersk Navigator, a 255,000 tonne, fully laden
supertanker drifting between the Indonesian island of Sumatra and the
Indian Nicobar Islands.

A spokesman for the ship's owners yesterday claimed that "Extensive
cooling of the vessel's hull is taking place and realistically it should
be possible to extinguish the fire within the next 72 hours."

The ship's Danish owners yesterday said "a few tens of tonnes per hour"
of crude oil was leaking from the vessel, and a narrow 15 mile slick of
oil had been sighted.
:end:


 forwarded without permission from soc.culture.asean
 by

 Aries







	 
	 


 
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
From: isae@IASTATE.EDU (isae@IASTATE.EDU)
Subject: Re: SEPIIIII......
Reply-To: isae@IASTATE.EDU (isae@IASTATE.EDU)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:16:55 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.154447.26383@donau.et.tudelft.nl>,
maulana@duteca8.et.tudelft.nl (Ikbal Arek Lumajang) writes:
> Newsgroup kita ini kok sepi ya. Saya kadang-kadang ngiri sama newsgroupnya
> orang-orang lain, negaranya mini tapi newsgroupnya rame. Ataukah karena
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
  Newsgroups apa yg kamu compare? :)
 
> orang-orang se-negri kita nggak banyak yang punya akses ke news? 
> Ataukah karena news-nya nggak menarik? Bahan pembicaraannya nggak menarik?
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
  Yep! Benar sekali. 

> Ikbal (Maulana@duteca.et.tudelft.nl)

-Doorstop
From: Steve.Gill@rumah.DIALix.oz.au (Steve Gill)
Sender: UUCP@rumah.DIALix.oz.au
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Subject: Re: US vs IRAQ, Indonesia's view
Date: 22 Jan 93  20:30:28 WST

G'day Indra, 
             on Jan 20 you wrote:

>>On US attacks on Iraq, anybody knows Indonesian position (for/con) ?
>>Just wondering...

>>HSIAHAAN

 > The only foreign affairs that Indonesian seems always WONDERING 
 > about, for years and years and years, is the thing called *The 
 > Cambodian Conflict*. The affairs such as US attack on Iraq or 
 > SERBIAN BASTARD sistematically raping muslim women are beyond 
 > Indonesian interest, I guess.

 > So, the answer for your question, I think, is NEITHER for nor 
 > con. Sorry, HSIAHAAN, Indonesian just never WONDERING 
 > (:-))about this kind of stuff.

In 1991 I met an Indonesian activist (sorry - can't be more specific, in order to protect the person) from Jakarta who said "of course we support Saddam!"

Given some of the results of US foreign policy, I can understand this feeling.

(I disagree with both sides of the conflict.)

Steve

 * Origin: Santai saja di Perth, Western Australia   (3:690/254.13)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
From: aries@dutetvc.tudelft.nl (Aries Hackerman)
Subject: alt.KHO.PING.HOO ????
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 14:01:18 GMT



From article <1jpqdgINNqee@tamsun.tamu.edu>, by utama@ee.tamu.edu (Peter Utama):> In article <1993Jan22.200214.8054@cs.cornell.edu> donsw@cs.cornell.edu (Donal$
>>
>>By the way, what is the title?
>
> These are what I have with me now:
> 
> -Kisah memanah burung rajawali ( Sia Tiauw Eng Hiong )- ejaan lama ( < '65)
> -Kisah pendekar dan rajawali sakti ( Sin Tiauw Hiap Lu ) - ejaan lama
> -Pedang ular emas ( Kim Tjoa Kiam ) -ejaan lama
> -Kisah membunuh naga (Ie thian To liong ) -ejaan lama
>   semua karya Ching Yung
> -kisah para pendekar negri Taili (Thian Liong Pat poh) saduran Gan KL
> -Makam bunga mawar - saduran OPA (Oh Peng An)
> -Darah Pendekar - Kho Ping Ho
> 
>>  
>>--
   
 
    Daripada susah-susah pinjam saja VIDEONYA ........
    tinggal nongkrong, makan chips dan ENJOYYYYYYYYYYYY....
 
 
    atau saatnya untuk alt.KHO.PING.HOO ????
 

    Aries
From: praskulk@engin.umich.edu (Prashant Kulkarni)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Subject: travel agents for travel to Indonesia
Date: 25 Jan 1993 18:00:47 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: deslab.engin.umich.edu

  I am looking for travel agents for travel to Indonesia. If
someone could please send me names of reliable travel agents
(with economical rates), I would be most obliged.

  Since I do not read this newsgroup, a reply through e-mail
would be greatly appreciated.

thanks,
Prashant Kulkarni
<praskulk@caen.engin.umich.edu>
From: jimmyt@cs.tamu.edu (Jimmy Tirtawangsa)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Subject: cer-sil Re: No Subject
Date: 21 Jan 1993 20:07:59 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
NNTP-Posting-Host: photon.tamu.edu

In article <1jmonrINNfr1@tamsun.tamu.edu> utama@ee.tamu.edu (Peter Utama) writes:
>BTW, are there any 'cerita silat' lovers out there in the usenet?
>I have brought some of my old colections here, and my cousin just
>arrived yesterday with more of them... 
>Too bad that I don't have much time to read them all at the moment.

no.. don't read 'em, scan 'em and post'em ....
I guess many people will love to read.

jimmy
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
x excuse me for these x's. the news poster can not accept post with more .... x
x included article than one's own post                                        x
From: utama@ee.tamu.edu (Peter Utama)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Subject: Re: cer-sil ( was: Re: No Subject)
Date: 25 Jan 1993 21:46:17 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University
NNTP-Posting-Host: ee.tamu.edu


Wah wah ngga nyangka, ternyata banyak juga pengemar buku cersil di usenet.
senang jugabacain respons kawan2 ttg cersil.

Saya mulai bacain cersil sejak SD kelas 5, mulain dg Kho Ping Ho, terus jadi
ketagihan, semua judul dari karangannya sudah habis dibaca, mula2 nyewa atau
pinjam teman, terus saya mulai koleksi buku cersil, bu kek siansu, suling emas,
mutiara hitam, p. super sakti, dll ( kira2 ada 1 lemari unt kho ping hoo )
setelah habis dg KPH, saya mulai baca buku2 lain & sekalian koleksi, rajin
keliling senen, jatinegara, ps. baru, tanah tinggi, etc.Dan memang ngga gampang
lho cari buku2 cersil yang terbitan lama karena termasuk 'collector items' 
waktu saya SMA, koleksi saya kira2 sudah 2 lemari, dan banyak diantaranya
yang collector items. 

>
>Secara pribadi saya lebih suka tulisan Kho Ping Ho daripada yang lainnya
>(Gan KL, dll.), Kho Ping Ho lebih romantis :-) dan banyak lucunya.
>Betul-betul "suhu" dalam urusan cerita silat.

dulu saya juga berpendapat begitu, tapi lama kelamaan, terutama setelah membaca
karya2 Ching Yung, saya merasa KPH agak monoton, dan terlalu suka mengurui
orang dengan ceramah ttg "keakuan" atau "cinta kasih". Lagipula banyak karya
karyanya yang mengambil ide dari karya2 Ching Yung... saya bisa menyimpulkan
demikian karena karya2 CY sudah beredar lama sebelum KPH mulai menulis cersil

>
>Oh ya, ada yang pernah baca novel Indonesianya ? Judulnya apa ya kok 
>saya lupa... Kalau ada yang tahu, tolong diposkan dong.
>

Saya dulu juga pernah membaca "Sabuk Inten dan Naga Sosro" (kalo ngga salah)
dan "Api di bukit Menoreh" ( mungkin bukan karya KPH ) dan beberapa 
cersil jawa yang saya sudah lupa judulnya

>Buat Peter, kalau sempat boleh tolong ditampilkan "jurus-jurus" yang ada
>di buku Darah Pendekar ...

wah sori, saya belum sempat baca lagi buku itu, soalnya baru datang 
minggu lalu, tapi saya masih ingatsedikit ilmu2 di sintiauwhiaplu , siatiauw-
enghiong atau toliongto seperti HangLiongSipPatTjiang dan PakKauwPangHoat
dari KayPang (AngTjitKong), KioeImTjinKeng dan KIoeYangTjinKeng, kitab ajaib
yang memuat bermacam2 ilmu dan tenaga dalam, HapMoKang dari AuyangHong,
KianKoenTayloeIe dari BengKauw (ThioBoeKie), ItYangTjie dari ToanHongya.

Oh ya, bagaimana dg komik2 bergambar spt karya2 Ganes TH, Yan Mintaraga,
Teguh Santosa, Djair, Man dsb.... wah saya jadi ingin pulang untuk 
bertemu lagi dg Si Buta dari Gua Hantu, Mandala, Yan Mintaraga jagoannya
siapa ya? Kelelawa, tapi namanya siapa ya? Djair selalu ttg perjuangan
Wali Songgo....wah ternyata saya masih ingat sebagian sebagian....
>
>-- budi
>-- 
>Budi Rahardjo <Budi_Rahardjo@UManitoba.Ca>

-peter


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From: iwan@cs.utexas.edu (Himawan Prajogo)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Subject: Re: cer-sil ( was: Re: No Subject)
Date: 23 Jan 1993 03:15:00 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cash.cs.utexas.edu

In article <lm15tfINN3jr@coltexo.cs.utexas.edu> regius@cs.utexas.edu (Regius S. Gunawan) writes:
<discussion about software feasibility to scan cersil>

Those of you asking if you can scan them :
Have you ever read or seen an actual cersil ? No, not one book.
The whole series. The stories takes typically more than 10-20 books.
thin books, but 20 books. As to the age being a factor, believe me it does
no OCR is gonna ever be able to read thru some of the older Kho Ping Hoo
I have read. (I had trouble myself see ?) Chin Yung stories are usually even
older, so forget it... I won't ask Peter to scan those... moot discussion

>(more important question for me: how did your family manage to
>obtain a copy of these; I've tried in vain to no avail :)

Cari di pasar buku Jakarta, kalo nggak ada, cari di Solo, biasanya banyak
Good luck deh, gua aja nyari udah lama banget Sia Tiauw Eng Hiong ngga dapet..
Ebedy ebedy ebedy that's all...

To Peter : Enjoy .. gua ngiri nih..


-- 
  "It's a bird ! It's a plane ! It's.... time for lunch.." -Plucky, TTA
 iwan@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu				iwan@cs.utexas.edu

Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
From: spence@cbmvax.commodore.com (Spencer Shanson)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Subject: Contact Lists
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:00:30 GMT
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

I don't know if this is the correct place for such a posting, but here goes. If
not, could someone please cross-post to the relevant newsgroup.


Companies with a commercial interest in SouthEast Asia will profit by renting a
list of about 2000 promotional names (mostly Singapore). These are specially
culled prospects, available at $200 per thousand to rent, or $650 per thousand
to buy. These names are all available electronically.

Other Asian lists are available at lower prices, but are not available
electronically.

Contact:

Mr.T.L.Shanson
127 Aldermans Hill
Palmers Green
London N.13 4QB
England
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From: regius@cs.utexas.edu (Regius S. Gunawan)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Subject: Re: cer-sil ( was: Re: No Subject)
Date: 23 Jan 1993 07:30:39 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: earth.cs.utexas.edu

In article <lm234kINNt7l@cash.cs.utexas.edu> iwan@cs.utexas.edu (Himawan Prajogo) writes:
>Have you ever read or seen an actual cersil ?
Yes.  In fact quite a few of them.
(refer to my line about having someone who had absolutely
nothing to do to scan those; btw prolly I should've put
a lot more  ^_^ in my previous post)

>no OCR is gonna ever be able to read thru some of the older Kho Ping Hoo
>I have read. (I had trouble myself see ?) Chin Yung stories are usually even
>older, ....
Sorry for my assuption that you have a *good* copy of the
books.  You see, the copies I've seen are good enough for
scanning purposes.
(and they *are* old; vintage 60s :)

>Cari di pasar buku Jakarta, kalo nggak ada, cari di Solo, biasanya banyak
Yikes!  Mesti ke Solo?  Seperti kata andrean: "Aaargh!" ^_^

> iwan@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu				iwan@cs.utexas.edu
^_^
ps. I still would like to get my hands on those ^_^
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
From: umrufiad@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Rifa Rufiadi)
Subject: Re: What is the porblem ?
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:08:28 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.161657.17749@dsg.cs.tcd.ie> ahmed@dsg.cs.tcd.ie (Ahmed El-Habbash) writes:
>In <C1BKnI.7p9@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umrufiad@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Rifa Rufiadi) writes:
>
>>In article <1993Jan21.145903.46603@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> hsiahaan@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
...... deleted
>understanding, and perhaps because ... kapok ?  What is kapok by the
>way? ha ha.                                             ^^^^^

I don't know the exact word in English (can somebody help me ?)
What I mean with kapok in that sentence:
You sent a mail to this group and you got private mail saying don't do
that but do this. Because of that you don't want to involve anymore.
In fact I was wrong, you more involve because that private mail which
mean you are not kapok but you are kesengsem with this group.

Peace to you.

Rifa
From: iwan@cs.utexas.edu (Himawan Prajogo)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Subject: Gurunya Boe Pun Soe (Lu Kwan Cu)
Date: 27 Jan 1993 02:53:46 -0600
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Menjawab pertanyaannya siapa saya sudah lupa:
Gurunya Boe Pun Soe :
Yang terutama, Ang Bin Sin Kay si Pengemis Sakti
Dia juga belajar beberapa jurus dari orang lain
Murid utamanya Boe Pun Soe:
Sie Tjin Hay, pendekar bodoh 
Bener nggak ?


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