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From: mea@cbnewse.cb.att.com (mark.e.anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Debate Results, my opinion.
Date: 14 Oct 92 02:40:38 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article  miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant) writes:

>Well I saw it, and it wasn't pretty.
>Gore delivered the knock-out punch in my opinion.
>I kinda felt sorry for the Perot candidate. Although he did get in a couple
>of classic lines. "I think the Nation can see why we're in dead-lock." :)
>Quayle was the big loser.

This is hard for me to say but I think Our Boy actually pulled one
off and won this one.  I was mentally keeping score using our official
scoresheet and it appeared that DQ was raking in points faster than
Gore with Stockdale finishing last.  

Poor Stockdale.  He looked and sounded so uncomfortable up there.
I kind of felt sorry for him.

Mark
From: dascoser@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (david serchay)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Stockdale
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:32:29 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

Tell me, did Admiral Stockdale remind anyone else of "Old Indy" from the 
Young Indiana Jones Chronicals
"Stop bickering you two! Why when I was running a community in  Veitnam 
...," :)

Dascoser

20 days and counting
From: train@gvls2.gvl.unisys.com (Herbert Rutledge)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Marilyn Quayle claims Clinton thinks unlike a southerner
Keywords: politics, usa federal, government
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:25:53 GMT
Organization: Paramax Systems Corporation, Paoli PA

In article <12OCT199212181676@utahep.uta.edu>, sawyer@utahep.uta.edu 
(Lee Sawyer) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct8.232627.23788@u.washington.edu>,
sieferme@carson.u.washington.edu (Eric Sieferman) writes...
|> >
|> > [Eric Sieferman's original post of Marilyn's accusation deleted
|> >  for brevity]
|> 
|>  [Lee Sawyer's opening paragraph deleted for brevity]

|>   However I recognize that, in many ways, my views are atypical
|> of many of my fellow southerners. It is, I believe, the views of 
|> an educated person, in region where for generations, education was
|> not considered a great advantage. There is, as another respondent
                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
|> noted, a great sense of jealousy over a "Northern" education. There
|> was also, for many years, a great distrust of "book learning" among 
|> rural southerners.
|> 

  That was me.  Thank you for expressing in such a heart-felt manner what
  I expressed so cynically.

|>  Today there are really two tribes of native southerners : Those of
|> us who are citizens of the New South, the south of Jimmy Carter and
|> LeRoy Collins and Albert Gore, Sr.; and the vestiges of the old south,
|> the south of whites still resentful of equal opportunity legislation,
|> the south ripe for picking by the Republican party of Ronald Reagen
|> and George Bush. 
|>  
|>        ================                           
|>          Lee Sawyer                                  

  When it comes to cynicism about about southerners, however, no one can
  hold a candle to Mark Twain.  He had the best comment about the mindset
  of resentment among "the vestiges of the old south" (and I am paraphrasing 
  here, as I read this passage many years ago):

  "I was with a young lady one moonlit night.  I remarked to her on how
   lovely the moon was. 

  'You should have seen it, sir, before the War.'" 


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From: ballard@panther.adelphi.edu (Terry Ballard)
Subject: What's the deal??
Organization: Adelphi University Swirbul Library
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:49:58 GMT


   A co-worker told me that there was a segment on this morning's Today show 
concerning a drug supplier who brought pot to Quayle.  It seems that he was 
suspiciously silenced in 1988 until after the election.  Does anybody know 
anything about this??
            
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From: pat@sphinx.phys.Virginia.EDU (pat walsh)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: VP debate: pre-emptive strike by Dan's handlers?
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:39:54 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia Physics Department

The questions about page 304 in Gore's book have set off a faint warning bell
in my mind.  Recall that it was Our Boy's handlers who had asked for
permission to bring a copy of the book to the debate.  As we all know, this
request was denied in the final agreement between the two camps.

Now consider what actually happened in the debate:  apparently (I haven't
read the book), Big Dan cited things in Gore's book that just aren't there,
including a specific page reference.  In light of this performance, doesn't
the Quayle camp's request to bring a copy of the book to the debate now look
a bit suspicious?  I have this nagging feeling that their true objective --
by means of reverse psychology, sheer bluffing, or whatever you prefer to
call it -- was not to secure permission to bring a copy of the book onstage;
but, rather, to make sure Gore would NOT have a copy, thus leaving him unable
to point to the book on-camera to refute any charges Dan wanted to make with
respect to its contents.

Or am I giving the Quayle team too much credit for cleverness?  (Remember,
I'm referring to Dan AND his handlers here, not just Dan! }8-))

- Patrick Walsh
  University of Virginia Department of Physics
  pw@virginia.bitnet, pw@virginia.edu, pat@gomez.phys.virginia.edu
From: 01sybok@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: The Woozels are coming
Date: 8 Oct 92 08:58:24 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1992Oct8.002135.18087@nmsu.edu>, dward@scf.nmsu.edu (Dan Ward) writes:
> 
>   Just heard that Bush was telling Californian that they wouldn't
>   have any food or water if they voted for Clinton/Gore.  It seems
>   to me we should take this to it's logical conclusion.  I.e.,
>   "An inside source at the White House today has confirmed that 
>    Elephants, Tigers and other types of Woozels will seek out and
>    trample the homes of everyone who votes for Clinton/Gore. "
>    The inside source also confirms that Aliens from outside the
>    universe will be on hand to barbecue the entire planet Earth
>    if Clinton/Gore wins."
> 
>    I'm sure it's true.  I heard it on TV.


Not to mention that expose the Weekly World News did a few weeks back that 
uncovered Clinton's alien supporters...

Mike "I read it in the paper, it MUST be true!"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: jamaass@bluemoon.rn.com (Jeffrey A. Maass)
Subject: Re: debates
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 20:50:11 EDT

Kurt Ludwick <KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

> In article <cass8806.299@elan.glassboro.edu>, cass8806@elan.glassboro.edu (KY
> CASSIDY) says:
> 
> >i can barely wait to see our boy dan take on al gore in the debate.
> 
> Ditto.
> 
> >any thoughts on who might win?
> 
> Most expect Gore to massacre Quayle.  I expect Quayle to destroy Gore, by
> simply quoting his book and exposing him for the wacko-environmentalist
> liberal he is.
> 
> At least, I -hope- he makes it perfectly clear that not all scientists
> believe 'the sky is falling', as Chicken Little Gore would have us believe.
> 
> Watch for an upset.
> 
> ------------
> Kurt Ludwick
> ------------


Hee hee! That Kurt: always the kidder!


Jeff Maass                   Amateur Radio: K8ND (@ W8CQK)
NW of Columbus Ohio                Netmail: jamaass@bluemoon.uucp

GILLETTE'S PRINCIPLE:
  "If you want to make people angry, lie. If you want to make
   them absolutely livid with rage, tell the truth."
From: bena@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Ben Aveling)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Vice Shrub Won.
Date: 17 Oct 92 03:29:35 GMT
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

From what we hear down here the Danbot did OK.  Not great, but
a lot better than I expected, which is saying very little.  However what
about Bush ? ! 

Perhaps they took the brain out and put it in Dano ?

	Ben
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: madhaus@netcom.com (Maddi Hausmann)
Subject: Quayle on Speed?
Organization: Society for Putting Things on Top of Other Things
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:04:48 GMT

The thought that Quayle's performance was, well, different, came from
a thread in alt.politics.elections.  I mentioned his tendency to go for
the attack.  But didja notice...

   - The number of times he complained to the moderator about wanting
     more time?
   - The number of times he giggled nervously?
   - The way he'd ask a question over and over and over, but not
     yield the floor so Gore could answer?  e.g. "I'm not asking a
     question, I'm making a statement!" when in fact he had asked 
     a question.
   - The way he completely, and I mean completely changed a number of
     subjects to support his theme that Bill Clinton Is a Liar?

So, if Bush's poor performance on Sunday can be attributed to Halcyon,
maybe Quayle's attack schnauzer style is Dexedrine.

By the way, today's CNN report said Quayle was the loser if the debate
was judged by accuracy.  But we knew that, didn't we? ;-)

-- 
Maddi Hausmann                madhaus@netcom.com
Humorist, Satirist, Tech Writer.  Take your pick.

Centigram Communications Corp, San Jose California  408/428-3553
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: matta@lclark.edu (Matt Alexander)
Subject: Re: bumperstickers
Organization: Sacajawea's Voice
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:51:35 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.021507.15285@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> a FRIEND of
huang@mwilliams.eche.ualberta.ca () wrote:
>I saw two bumperstickers.  One reads "Friends don't let friends vote
>Democrat," and the other, "Vote Republican.  Your country is a
>terrible thing to waste."
  Yeah, unfortunetly they were both on your car.

>Too bad that you Quayle bashers have no friends.
  Oh, it's SO TRUE! <SOB(E)> 

--- Matt Alexander

    "Boy, they were big on crematoriums, weren't they?"
        -- George Herbert Walker Bush, during a tour of Auschwitz, 28-SEP-87

    "Get this [economic program] passed.  Later on, we can all debate it."
        -- George Herbert Walker Bush, 12-FEB-92
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: pat@sphinx.phys.Virginia.EDU (pat walsh)
Subject: Re: Undercurrent of Panic
Organization: University of Virginia Physics Department
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:33:28 GMT

Cindy Kandolf writes:

>Daniel A Ashlock writes:
>>   Did you see the nitwit who is trying to make something of
                     ^^^^^^
>>Clinton's student trip to Moscow?  Not on UseNet, but out in
>>what we whimsically refer to as reality?

Apparently, as of yesterday, the nitwit to whom you refer goes by the name
George Herbert Walker Bush.

- Patrick Walsh
  University of Virginia Department of Physics
  pw@virginia.bitnet, pw@virginia.edu, pat@gomez.phys.virginia.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: tls@sscvx1.ssc.gov
Subject: Re: New Quayle Quote (NY Times, 10/7/92)
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 04:00:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.190526.26599@u.washington.edu>, sieferme@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Sieferman) writes:
> In article <7069@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> dejst5+@pitt.edu (David   E Joslin) writes:
> (standard nonsense from Our Boy, deleted)
>>
>>A Quayle aide explained Dan's problem as follows (same article):
>>	"That's the problem with being Dan Quayle.  Sometimes
>>	there's a data download as he's shifting gears."  
>>If anyone can explain this explanation to me, I would be grateful.
> 

You have to think computers and cars. The explanations means that in
circumstances when a sudden change in environment requires a modulation of 
approach ( changing gear -> Dan is asked a question ) then all information
that was previously available becomes volatile ( data download -> he no
longer knows anything.) The fact that the explanation is accurate while not
clear illustrates why the person who said this is an aide and we aren't...

Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: tak@tazboy.jpl.nasa.gov (Tom Kreitzberg)
Subject: Re: Extra! Dan is a Genius!
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
	<cortez.718440319@milton> <1992Oct7.142821.26389@anasazi.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:19:08 GMT

Mike Best (best@anasazi.com) writes:

>By the way, do you have a problem with Bob Woodward's claim that
>Dan Qualye would be an effective President should something happen
>to Bush? You remember Bob - Watergate... Nixon...

Of course! Why didn't I see it sooner? Dan Quayle is Deep Throat!
Boy, does that explain a lot. Bush's choice in '88, Bob Dole's
bitterness _and_ his party loyalty. And all this time I've been fooled
by the vacant stare, the dopey grin, the mindless words. No wonder
the Dandelion was made vice president and has that sycophant Woodward
fawning all over him: he played _the_ critical role in the whole
process of getting Nelson Rockefeller into the vice presidency!
Which, after all, was the motive behind Watergate. So the Republicans
and Woodward owed Quayle big time!

Now, when was the Indiana National Guard assigned to a detail near
Foggy Bottom?
From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Vice Shrub Won.
Date: 15 Oct 92 04:22:23 GMT
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <H9gNsB5w165w@mintir.new-orleans.la.us> elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) writes:
>
>I don't think he took them lying down, but there's only so much you can do when
>Dano lies as blatantly as he did.  He said he didn't do it, and left it to the
>CNN 'Truth Squad' to do the rest.  Frankly, it was Gore that had a bit of the
>deer-in-the-headlights last night.  It's one thing to zing someone with a
>one-liner, or come up with an analytical twist that gives you an advantage, but
>they just didn't prep Gore for outright lying.

I just worry about leaving it to the Truth Squad to clean up.  Maybe
I'm a control freak, but I'd like to do my own rebuttals, and on the
spot, so the lies the Vice Shrub spread won't have a chance to, uh,
stain the carpet.  Also, Truth Squad reports tend to wind up in the
back pages: they don't make headlines quite as well (but then, I
don't look at the TV quite as much, and certainly not CNN because I
lack cable :-)  These things get relegated to Not-The-Front-Pages,
and don't receive the attention like they should.  Just my feeling.

And I agree, Gore wasn't prepped for the stream of sludge from that
side of the stage.


--
"Moors."  "Moops."  "Moors."  "Moops."  Psssssssssssss.....
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: chaz@vicorp.com (Charlie Hileman)
Subject: NYT 10/7/92 - juicy JDQ quotes
Organization: V. I. Corporation, Northampton, Massachusetts
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:43:53 GMT

There's an excellent article in the NYT about Dan Quayle.  I'll take
the liberty of quoting a bit of it:
  
  Quayle Speaks Just Fine (With a Script, That Is)
  by Kevin Sack
  NYT 10/7/92 p. A17

  After almost four years as Vice President and after months of
  campaigning, Mr. Quayle still refers to index cards while delivering
  the most standard speech.  And while he is capable of handling a
  technical question adroitly, as he did last week in answering a query
  on the obscure issue of ethanol production, Mr. Quayle often finds
  himself sinking when he is without the security of a script.
  
  It does not necessarily happen every day, but it happens often enough
  to raise questions about the VP's facility with both language and
  subject matter.
  
  ....
  
  In the last month, Mr. Q has visited a number of hospitals to
  highlight the Administration's position on health care.  But his
  well-informed audiences have often found his presentations shallow.
  When a woman at a hospital in Colorado Springs asked Mr. Q last week
  whether Hawaii's universal health-care plan might serve as a national
  model, Mr. Q left it unclear whether he knew anything about the plan.
  He tackled the question anyway.
  
  "Hawaii is a unique state," he said.  "It is a small state.  It is a
  state that is by itself.  It is a --- it is different than the other
  49 states.  Well, all states are different, but it's got a
  particularly unique situation."
  
On and on it goes.  But I don't have enough time to type any more.

I hardly wait for the debate.  Hopefully I can finally digitize the
sound track to one his many blunders.

'till then...

	--Charlie Hileman			ARPA:  chaz@vicorp.com
	  V. I. Corporation			UUCP:  uunet!vicorp!chaz
	  Northampton, Massachusetts
From: bill@cognet.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Prez Debate II
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:10:04 GMT
Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program

train@gvls2.gvl.unisys.com (Herbert Rutledge) writes:


>  I found Bush's summation intriguing.  Highlighting his strong suit, foreign
>  affairs, he said that people should vote for him because sometime soon a 
>  news announcer would break into a television show to announce a crisis
>  somewhere in the world.  

>  Hmmmmm.  The last such news bulletin that I remember described a riot in
>  Los Angeles.

My personal feeling on hearing those remarks was:  Mister President,
we're in the middle of a pretty severe crisis now, one affecting the
economies throughout the world, one affecting the moral authority
and ability to act of the United States, the U.N. and Europe.  We're
in a crisis affecting our ability to develop new paradigms to
account for great military and economic shifts, as well as new
opportunities to handle human massacres and human starvation with
more cooperative, technologically more sophisticated methods. And
we're not doing it.

This may sound hokey, but in essence, it's true.

GODDAMMIT, MR. PRESIDENT, THERE IS A CRISIS.
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: jks2x@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jason K. Schechner)
Subject: Re: Debate Results, my opinion.
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 04:35:04 GMT


 	I think we have a new Quaylism.  In the debate he was talking
about how George met Gorby.  Tell me if you think this is worthy of
the file:
	(I'm quoting from a video tape playing to my right.)
"President Bush was flying to Malta in 1989 to meet with President
Gorbachev, it was the first meeting between President Bush and President
Gorbachev.  They'd known each other before..."
	What, like in a past life?  Oh, no.  Has Danny been talking to
those ddamned astrologers again?
	Also, did you all catch Gore's first jab at Quayle?  In his
openning statement he said to Stockdale (a medal of honor rpient for the
Viet Nam war) that "those of us who served in Viet Nam thought of you
a national hero before you were awarded the Medal of Honor".  Ouch!
Then Gore said he wouldn't compare Quayle to Kennedy and Quayle said
"Do you remember what happened last time someone was compared to
Kennedy?".  No Dan, he said that out of the blue.
	I'm sorry, I've only watched about half the debate and I what 
I've seen so far is Quayle backpedaling and whining.  Also he insists
on coming back to the 'fact' that Clinton will raise taxes on everyone.  
Anyone who has read Clinton/Gore's plan _knows_ how full of shit that is.


-Jason
-- 
"Just like the Pied Piper, led rats through the street
We dance like marionettes, Swaying to the symphony...
Of destruction"	
					-Dave Mustaine
From: erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Vice Shrub Won.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 14:52:07 PDT
Organization: Reigning Cats and Dogs
Reply-To: erics@infoserv.com
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


mvp@netcom.com (Mike Van Pelt) writes:

> Gore came off as 100% pure plastic when he was reciting his prepared
> speeches.  He talked like a human being when he was speaking off the
> cuff, but much of the time, he looked, moved, and sounded exactly like
> one of those AudioAnimaTronic things at Disneyland.

Oh come on. Since this was a *Vice* Presidential debate, and the vice
president's number one task is to be ready to assume the presidency
at a moment's notice, did you really think that there was anyone on
that stage except Gore who fulfilled that criteria?

I know I'm praying for good health for Bush - for another three months!

-----
Eric Smith
erics@infoserv.com
CI$: 70262,3610


Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: jberger@novell.com (John Berger)
Subject: Re: more bashing
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:09:22 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.054237.15655@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> huang@mwilliams.eche.ualberta.ca () writes:
>From: huang@mwilliams.eche.ualberta.ca ()
>Subject: more bashing
>Can those Quayle bashers find some place else to masturbate?  This
>place is santified for the genuine fan of The Honourable J. Danforth
                                    ^^^
Notice the singular case here.  EVERYBODY OUT OF THE POOL-Marilyn's coming 
in!

>Quayle.  Please return to the original intent.  Thanks.  

Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: garrett@Ingres.COM (FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS VOTE REPUBLICAN)
Subject: Debate summery?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Keywords: 
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:41:10 GMT

	I missed the debate! Could someone post a summery of the 
debate? I turned on the radio just in time to hear the talking-heads
say that Dannikins didn't do that bad.

-Garrett