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From: CA2096@SIUCVMB.BITNET (Allen Wittenauer)
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Subject: 68050
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:37:38 GMT
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I thought Motorola said that they were not going to make a 68050 because
the odd numbered chips were just small improvements on the even numbered
chips.  The 68060 was a major change from the 68040 and so, in turn is not
going to be called the 68050.
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 11:40:11 -0500
From:         CAMACHO@ECSUC.CTSTATEU.EDU
Subject:      RE: Amiga go.

I would love to play Go on the Amiga... I heard that in the UK
there is a commercial program. In the US, there is a GO-like game
which is more like connect the dots....

Carlos Camacho
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From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Subject: Re: MultiClock
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:12:45 GMT

In <01GQZMP3GVYOADCZ4W@TAYLORU> Owen <91016@TAYLORU.BITNET> writes:

>Does anyone have MultiClock?  I just ftp'd it and nothing happens when I run
>it.  Does anyone else have it?   If so, could you send it to me (Ithink i only
>need the program itself, nothing else.
>                                                                Kevin Shafer
>                                                                91016@tayloru
>Yes, I have WB2.0.

Read the readme files and look in your workbench title bar.  You're running
it.  You just can't tell, but the dates and time are changed there.  The 
docs will give you the rest o the details. :>

Crystal
  ;>

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From:         "(Daniel Roman)" <roman@TIX.TIMEPLEX.COM>
Subject:      Minimum WB 1.3 disk with IconX

Could someone who has possibly already found out what the minimum set of
files/directories required to be able to use IconX from a single
bootable floppy under WB 1.3 help me figure out what I need as a bare
minimum?  I'm trying to set up some non-Workbench programs for someone
who has a 1.3 500 and need to be able to have them just click on an icon
once the machine has started up.

I've tried on my own but when the icon is clicked on the small CLI
window that IconX opens appears and disappears instantly.  I must be
missing something important.  The program(s) in question have all the
files they need, IconX seems to be the offender.
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From:         Hindsight is 20/20 <SPRINGJP@CERAMICS.BITNET>
Subject:      Mail Order

The best service that I have ever encountered for the Amiga came from Memory
World (who sells all sorts of hardward expansion).  Twice I have ordered
expansion RAM chips from them.  Not only are their prices the lowest I've ever
encountered, but in both cases I had my chips the next day by REGULAR UPS!
I'll admit that they are located only four hours away (West Chester, PA), but
they must have shipped those chips as soon as I hung up.  I'm now a loyal
customer.
                        J.P. Springer
                        springjp@bigvax.alfred.edu
                        springjp@ceramics.bitnet
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From:         ">Rasiel" <IQM109@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Subject:      Installing 2.0

I've run across a curious problem.

The other day I finally got around to reformatting my hard drive under 2.0
as it recommends this for improved performance.  However, now that the hd has
been wiped clean I can't install workbench back in.  Whenever I load the WB2.0
disks I get a guru (810000C I think).

Can anyone suggest what the prob might be?
If it's any help, I have a 210 Quantum w/ an Adscsi controller.

Rasiel iqm109@uriacc.uri.edu
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From:         EBRUC@CATGSG.DNET.HAC.COM
Subject: RE: C++ for the Amiga

GCC v2.2.2 is an ANSI C & C++ compiler.  I have used it to compile C++ programs
and got them to execute.  The only problem I had was to compile a program type:

  gcc -o hello hello.c -lg++

This works only if there is a space after the last '+', as I have just found out
this is the continuation character for the Amiga OS.  This caused me a week of
headaches.

You can get a copy from wuarchive.wustl.edu in

   /mirrors4/amiga.physik.unizh.ch/amiga/dev/gcc

or
   /systems/amiga/programming/languages/c

and it requires around 9 megabytes of disk space uncompressed.

Ed
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From:         BG09110@SWTEXAS.BITNET
Subject:      DICE SETUP

I have a question concerning the DICE compiler package.  I just snagged it off
of a system in Europe and I went to install my Amiga 1.3 Includes and lib and I
found that I was way short of room.  I have a 500 with 2 drives.  I am placing
about 400K of the important binaries (cpp, dc1, etc.) in RAM and have not
placed those files on the working disks.  Does anyone have any tips on how to
get this going without a harddrive or more than two floppy drives...?

Thanks,
B Griggs
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From: hibrown@CS.ALBANY.EDU ((Herbert I Brown))
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Subject: RE: Amiga go.
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:49:44 GMT
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	From: CAMACHO@ECSUC.CTSTATEU.EDU

	I would love to play Go on the Amiga... I heard that in the UK
	there is a commercial program. In the US, there is a GO-like game
	which is more like connect the dots....

	Carlos Camacho

The commercial program is called The Art of GO and has been around for
quite some time. It's probably available through mail-order houses.
The other one I mentioned in an earlier message is called AmiGO and is
probably on a Fish disk.

There is no GO game that connects dots. You may thinking of GoMoKu or
of Connect 4.

Herb


Herb Brown  Math Dept  The Univ at Albany  Albany, NY 12222  (518) 442-4640
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From: WAREP@WABASH.BITNET (Tech Duinn)
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Subject: Re: The 1200
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:47:56 GMT
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I would assume that OS/2 has the same memory hoggin tendencies that Mac OSs
do.  For instance, is there any reason a Mac SE/30 should have to have 4MB
to run WordPerfect?? Yes: System 7 takes up 1,600K!!!(OUCH!)  Why?
Probably because of the lack of hardware coding(read AmigaDOS ROMS!), and a
lack of GOOD shared libraries.  I have been looking into OSs and am VERY
curious about the whole thing, and  in addition to what facts I have in
front of me(I am editing on a macintoy right now ;(  I would also like to
know why, for example, what has been dubbed the "inefficient OS" be certain
I*M oriented magazines(can you guess who?), requires only 150K,  when the
streamlined 7th revision of the Mac system requires over 1MB, let alone
1600K, as well as over 4MB, more like 10MB of Hard drive space.
    The efficiencies of OSs are really spread all over the board aren't
they?  I think that's why I'm glad I have my Amiga.  It's better than any
of the other OSs on the Wabash campus, which consist of 35 386sx/16s(yuck!)
and 30 or so 68000 and 5 68030 based Macintoy computers(two of which use
actual color monitors!!! :)   Oh, well.

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:42:19 -0500
From:         CAMACHO@ECSUC.CTSTATEU.EDU
Subject:      HAM8 vs 24Bit

I would like someone that has a 4000, and a 24bit board run a test...
Render a picture to 24 bit mode... Then use Art Pro to convert it
to HAM8... My two questions... How much file space do you save.. and
how much picture quality is lost??? I've heard that HAM8 looks real
good... I would be interested in any comments...

Carlos Camacho
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 12:59:28 -0500
From:         "Daniel S. Riley" <dsr@LNS598.TN.CORNELL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Commercial use of PD

Branko Collin <U249026@HNYKUN11.bitnet> writes:
>The following letter I sent a week ago to the PD-software authors
>mentioned in it. It's about a computer chain store that may be making
>commercial use of PD software without having the authors' approval.

Time for a legal language rant:

"Public domain" means that the owner has relinquished or otherwise
lost *all* exclusive rights to work.  If the programs in question
are truly PD, then the authors have *no* legal recourse to prevent
uses of their work that they find objectionable--"public domain"
essentially means that anyone can do anything with it they please,
including reselling for whatever price they please.  "Copyrighted
public domain" is an oxymoron.

Now, of the works you mentioned that I happen to have on hand, *none*
are actually public domain--they are what is often called "freely
distributable" works, explicitly copyrighted by the authors, but
freely distributable with some restrictions on redistribution.  Calling
them PD does a disservice to the authors by misrepresenting the legal
status of their works.  If you want your complaint to be taken seriously,
you should get that right.

As for the actual complaint, if the extra price they are charging for
the A600+disks is no more than the cost of an A600 plus a reasonable
charge for media and copying, it is probably ok by the distribution
agreements I checked--and is little different than the relatively
well established practice of selling a CDROM drive bundled with an
ISO9660 filesystem and Fish Disk collection CDROM, for a small markup
over the cost of the CDROM and filesystem.  (Though I should note that
at least the HyperMedia Fish CDROM includes an offer to remove programs
from the disk if the author objects to their inclusion.)
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From:         John <JGRAHAM@UDCVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: diskdoubler for amiga?

In a previous article, I-AMIGA@RUTVM1.BITNET wrote:
>Message sent: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:40:13 HST.
>
>is there a program (preferably PD) that allows you to compress a hard disk,
>but still use it?  Mushintosh computers have a program called autodiskdoubler
>that doubles hard drive space by compressing files, but still allowing you to
>access these files with your programs.  It works in the background, and is
>said to eual or surpass regular access times ( in other words, it won't slow
>down your computer because it is decompressing a file )
>
>is there anything out there?  I've got a 40meg HD that's rapidly filling up
>and I need somethin to tide me over until I can get a 4000
>
>Todd K Mizomi
>toddm@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu
>University of Hawaii at Manoa
>"What I REALLY need is the expandability of the A2000 with the chipset and
>processor of the 4000!"
>
>p.s. has anyone heard anything yet about the Video Toaster 3.0?
Imploder is a PD that your looking for.
NewTek told me 3.0 will be out the first quarter 93.

John Graham                                               TV Systems Engineer
JGRAHAM@UDCVAX.BITNET                  University of the District of Columbia
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 19:37:17 EST
From:         Robert Harnaga <rharnaga@ARISTOTLES.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The 1200

Thanks a lot, Dave, now I got the preemptive and cooperative down, great!

Now that I know the differences, could someone explain why OS/2 is such a
memory hog (8Mb for stability, and 40Mb HD space) when WorkBench never
requires any such storage?
	I mean, why dont they make OS/2 ROMs for the poor I*M users?

Please, only those who *really* know please reply-- I dont want blind
speculations [I can make my own in my own time :-) ]

Thanks,
Robert

*Please reply directly to me [rharnaga@hardees.rutgers.edu] as I don't think
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From:         Hindsight is 20/20 <SPRINGJP@CERAMICS.BITNET>
Subject:      C/C++ compilers

Actually gcc2.2.2 is probably a better bet (wuarchive.wustl.edu,
        /mirrors4/amiga.physik.unizh.ch/mach/amiga/tools"), but that .lha is
a whopping 3306066 bytes.  Oh, my aching downloads.  Considering that my VAX
account here holds a grand total of 819200 bytes, I have no clue how to get it.
(But I'll try)
                        jp
                                :-)
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 01:43:00 CST
From:         Lance Tagliapietra <96720919@UCS.UWPLATT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: New amiga's and unix

>Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:45:00 GMT
>From: Share and Enjoy <90071859@VAX1.DCU.IE>
>Subject: New amiga's and unix
>
>Hello netters the situation is this
>
>
>my A500 ( purched with workbench 1.2 ,yes it's that old!) is getting a bit
>long in the tooth so I'm thinking of upgrading to a more powerful model,but
>the advent of the A1200,A4000 have left me with a slight delimma.
>Which one to go for ?

In terms of price/performance, I think the 3000 would be your best
deal cost-wise.  Current sale prices put it under $1500 with 2M and
a 52M hard disk.

[deleted]

>
>Second Q.
>in conjunction with buying a new amiga I am looking into buying UNIX / UNIX
>clone for it ( no ,well not that much, game playing on this machine)
>so what are my options here ?
>I've heard of a A3000 that could run unix but was that a Commadore US machine o
   n
>   ly
>secondly there is a unix clone MINIX for the amiga but I don't know that much
>about it

There is a demo of minix available on fish disk 525.  I have tried it
out on my stock 2000 and it works fine. (although a bit sluggish) There
is a list called minix-l where minix is discussed.

>
>
>Thanks in advance
>                Andrew Ward 90071859@vax.dcu.ie


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              68060 : the legend live on!" <FRASER50@SNYPOTVA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Cool demos

what are the system requirement of the demo. and were can it be found
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From:         "Matt Sawyer" <SAWYER_M@PLU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: A570 CD rom drive

In the Commodore announcement in comp.sys.amiga.announce about the A570, they
said that the introductory price would be $399 retail until Dec. 31st.  I'd
see about getting it straight from them or ask a few questions before paying
any more than that!!!  (This is in reference to someone saying Creative
Computers price was ~$450.00).

Matthew Sawyer
sawyer_m@plu.bitnet
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From:         mckeehan@MATH.UTK.EDU
Subject:      Looking For PD Desk Top Publishing Software

I would very much like to get my hands on a piece of software
for the Amiga that is similar to PageMaker on the Macintosh.

The only thing that I see in this area is a commercial package
called "PageStream" which looks very nice.

I was wondering if there is anything similar (I don't use most
of the capabilities anyway) available in the Public Domain?

What I need is a program that
 1) will let me have multiple colmns
 2) can place pictures, titles and other floats
 3) easily move text around
 4) run on a 1-meg Amiga 500 2.04 (With HD)

Any suggestions?

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From:         John <JGRAHAM@UDCVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: HAM8 vs 24Bit

In a previous article, I-AMIGA@RUTVM1.BITNET wrote:
>Message sent: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:42:19 -0500.
>
>I would like someone that has a 4000, and a 24bit board run a test...
>Render a picture to 24 bit mode... Then use Art Pro to convert it
>to HAM8... My two questions... How much file space do you save.. and
>how much picture quality is lost??? I've heard that HAM8 looks real
>good... I would be interested in any comments...
It does look good but the numbers come out like this.

HAM8 = 256,000 colors

A 736x483 pic has 355,488 pixels
A 1472x483 pic has 710,976 pixels

As you can see the hires pics fall short on colors needed.
But the 4000 is a dam good up grade from the 3000.
>
>Carlos Camacho

John Graham                                               TV Systems Engineer
JGRAHAM@UDCVAX.BITNET                  University of the District of Columbia
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A few days ago someone referred to the RDM Icons, and how great they
were.
Well, I just downloaded them and began putting them in, and it REALLY
changes the look of the workbench.
I then read AmigaWorld, and picture showed a picture backdrop on
the workbench. I emediately had to try this!
Now, I only have a stock A500, w/ two disk drives, but I managed it.
If your in the same boat, I advise against using a 16 color Workbench,
becasue it will REALLY slow your system down, and the drives make
obnoxious sounds!
Anyway, I used the RDM Icons in 8 color mode, using RDMs color scheme,
I then put in an old( but great looking) ray traced rendering
called 'Emeraldcity' as the backdrop.(Using NickPrefs)..
I then made a fill pattern for the windows that was a checker pattern
which matched the image. I now have a great looking workbench which
looks impressive, and only on one (very full) workbench disk, and I didn't
have to pare down the disk that much! (about 10%)

Has anyone else done anyhing interesting with their workbench???

Captain *CRASH*

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From:         Rick Johnson <96942392@UWWVAX.UWW.EDU>
Subject:      MIDI Software

Greetings,

My friend is looking to use his Amiga 500 (V1.3 ROM) to connect his MIDI
keyboard up to it.  I have loaned him my MIDI, but the software I have is
old and crashes a lot.

I was wondering if some one could recommend some good software to allow
him to basically play music on the keyboard, edit it on the Amiga, and
play it back.  He would also like to be able to create sheet music.  If
anyone has any experience with Dr. T's or Bar's and Pipes software, please
let me know of your experiences/likes/dislikes.

Thanks very much in advance.  Please post any responsed directly to my
address:  96942392@UWWVAX.UWW.EDU

RJ

Rick Johnson
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:49:35 -0500
From:         YARNALL@RHODES.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Need help fast PEOPLE!

What are you going to use the machine for?  It's hard to make a
suggestion without knowing the answer to that question.

A3000:  Faster, more expandable, SCSI interface, WB2.1, greater memory
        capacity.

A1200:  A bit slower, much less expandable, WB3.0, Significantly
        superior graphics.  Also a good bit cheaper??


                --Ken
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