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From: mcn@cfa203.HARVARD.EDU (Charley Noecker, Prec Astron)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: Re: FAQ: Windows for CUTCP, TRUMPET.
Date: 1 Oct 92 18:41:06 GMT
Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA,  USA

From article <booth.12.0@lub001.lamar.edu>, 
by booth@lub001.lamar.edu (John Booth):

> Also need, I think the PKTMUX driver. Anyone that can tell
> me where to find it on anon FTP? I can handle the setup if there's docs.
> (famous last words). :^)
> 
> John Booth
> booth@lub001.lamar.edu

From an earlier response I made:

...a package called pktmux11 (perhaps up to version 1.2 now),
available from wuarchive (.wustl.edu, 128.252.135.4) in
mirrors/msdos/pktdrvr.  This allows us to open a telnet connection in
a Windows sub-window (not limited to full-screen), with other tasks
running in the background.  This used to be a guaranteed short-cut
back to DOS.  In our vanilla usage, there have been no unexplained
crashes of PC or of telnet appls in several person-months of usage.
We have experienced only one problem: all of the NCSA utils leave the
packet-driver "sockets" busy after termination, which means you must
force them un-busy with the pktmux utils before you may access them
again.  This is really just a nuisance, in my case requiring some work
with batch files to make it work smoothly.

Charley Noecker
noecker@cfa.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
From: kvintus@digsys1.bwi.wec.com (Mike  Kvintus)
Subject: 3c501 packet driver, CUTCP, and Win 3.1
Organization: Westinghouse Electronic Systems Group, Baltimore, MD.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:09:07 GMT

I seem to be having problems getting CUTCP to work under windows 3.1 with 
version 10 of the 3c501 packet driver.  I've tried pktmux and winpkt without 
luck.  CUTCP finds the packet driver interrupt vector ok but can not connect
to any hosts.  My PIF file is set for background execution and I am running 
the DOS session full screen.  I'm not running any network software, i.e. 
Netware, so windows is setup for no network.  Could this be the problem?  
All I want to do is be able to Telnet and FTP to a UNIX host.  I know for 
sure that PKTMUX and WINPKT were setup properly, so that's not the problem.  
Everything works fine under DOS.  I've tried this with Microsoft's HIMEM and
with QEMM, and neither seems to make a difference.  Does anyone have any 
suggestions?

Mike Kvintus
kvintus@digsys1.bwi.wec.com
Westinghouse Electric Corporation - Baltimore, MD
From: s1039@heron.DAFA.SE (Lars Magnusson)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: Looking for dis_pkt.dos - packet to LanMan
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:39:56 GMT
Reply-To: s1039@heron.QZ.SE (Lars Magnusson)
Organization: QZ UniversitetsData AB


A'm trying to locate a packet driver for LanMan, over NDIS, named
dis_pkt.dos to our knowledge. Archie doesn't give any hints.


Can anyone point to where we can find it.

Please answere with email to bok@z.amu.se, as I'm routing this question
for a collegue.

Lars M
lmn@z.amu.se
From: gtoal@ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: Re: wanted: packet-based software for pc-workstation dialup
Date: 27 Sep 92 20:54:29 GMT
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.

In article <Bv94ro.Mnt@cs.dal.ca> layes@ug.cs.dal.ca (Jonathan Layes) writes:
>what I can tell, they won't work.  A windows package, UnixWindows, 
>allows multiple sessions but doesn't allow file transfers in each 
>session.  I've quickly looked at ka9q, but it looks as though I have
>to be assigned an ip number (and have a slip connection) to do that.
>I've been asking around the campus if slip is a possibility, but

ka9q running ppp or slip *is* what you want, and don't worry, you
can probably get away with inventing an IP no. if you don't want
to get farther than the machine you call directly.

However it ought to be possible to get an ip number from your university,
or even fill in the NIC form and get one directly.  I'm told it isn't
too hard.

G
PS If you can't get a slip/ppp connection to your university
machine, i think there is a unix version of ka9q that runs as
a user process, so you could install it yourself.
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From: CART@OCVAXA.CC.OBERLIN.EDU (Art Ripley)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: Re: fingerd for the pc?
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:11:35 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Beame & Whiteside include a fingerd with their Win3.1 BW-TCP release, it works
very nicely, plus they have a ftpd, and a telnetd.

Art
From: greg@ansoft.com (Greg Kochaniak)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: Compressed SLIP packet driver?
Date: 2 Oct 92 12:56:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: ansoft.BvHvyF.Ls8
Organization: Ansoft Corp. Pittsburgh

Is there a compressed SLIP (or CSLIP) packet driver for MS-DOS
available anywhere? Has anybody here tried compressed SLIP on
any platform and could tell us about possible speed gain compared
with standard SLIP?
From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: Why Token Ring?
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:07:04 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

In article <1992Sep27.172155.5559@utdallas.edu> karches@utdallas.edu writes:

   In article <717472264snx@crynwr.com> nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson) writes:   >I'm not trying to start an Ethernet/Token-Ring flame war here.  I
   >just would like an answer to the question "Why Token Ring?"  There
   >must be some non-obvious reason why someone would use a networking
   >technology where the adapters cost four times that of Ethernet...

   My understanding of one of the advantages of Token Ring over Ethernet is that
   as loading on the network increases, the degradation of performance is much
   more linear than Ethernet. In Token Ring, control of the network is fairly
   evenly divided up between adapters on the network. With Ethernet, all
   adapters attempting to send packets compete for network control. 

Even if Token Ring were double the speed of Ethernet, how could that
justify a quadruple increment in cost?

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com>  I'm proud to be a humble Quaker!
Crynwr Software            Crynwr Software sells packet driver support.
11 Grant St.               315-268-1925 Voice
Potsdam, NY 13676          315-268-9201 FAX
From: gtoal@ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: Re: lpdsim
Date: 27 Sep 92 19:05:45 GMT
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.

In article <9209231606.AA07279@annapurna.wbst147.xerox.com> leisner.henr801c@xerox.com writes:
:>If you mean raw data sent to the printer without headers or fuss, there's
:>a hack called 'lpdsim' that runs as a novell nlm which just scans a
:>directory once every few seconds, and any files it finds are sent to
:>a chosen printer.  A hack like that ought to work with anything...
:
:Scanning a directory is far different than a real queueing system...
:
:If the files are large, it has to know when the transfer is complete...

If a file exists in the spool dirctory, but can't be opened in update
mode, it ignores it till the next poll etc.  Eventually the writer
closes the file and lpdsim manages to open it.

G
(I did say it was a hack, but it isn't _completely_ brain-damaged)
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
From: br.pct@RLG.Stanford.EDU (Peter C. Tam)
Subject: Packet Driver <-> Wollongong WINTCP/IP
Organization: Research Libraries Group, Inc.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 03:00:31 GMT

  Is there a convertor that will let CryNwr Packet Drivers talk to Wollongong
WINTCP/IP applications in MS/DOS?
  Thanks.

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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: lingy@vccsouth31.its.rpi.edu (Dan)
Subject: problems with SLIP 
Summary: PRoblems of lots of bad TCP and IP checksums
Keywords: problems, slip. tcpip, cutcp, slip
Reply-To: lingy@rpi.edu
Organization: Somewhere Special
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 06:16:09 GMT

I have been receiving lots of TCP/IP errors using CUTCP slip and I am using
a 16550 AFN UART, I never get these errors until I am using windows for
SLIP, I think I have heard of this problem before about windows 3.1 
with 16550AFN with a dos terminal emulation package like Telix and
where the terminal emulator might not be able to make use of the uart's
fifo capabilities. Hope to hear from someone with regards to this soon
else I will have to go back to dos. Or is there a multi window PD/shareware
slip package for windows which looks like the NCSA telnet for the mac which
allows a window for each open connection?

Dan



Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
From: mih@eng.ufl.edu (Marc Hoit)
Subject: QVTNET - sendmail hangs !
Organization: University of Florida (ECS-DS)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 18:09:40 GMT

I recently downloaded QVTNET ver 2.7 and am trying it.  So far it seems 
great, however, I am having trouble sending mail.  The system seems to hang (
mail system).  I am using version 1.83 of berkeley popper.

All other systems (TELNET, FTP NEWS) will still work !

I ran a trace on popper (Sun 360, 4.1 unix) and received:

shell# trace -p 27498
Process 27498 attached - interrupt to quit
read (0, "XTND XMIT\r\n", 4096) = 11
getpid () = 27498
stat ("/tmp/xmita27498", 0xdfff4d0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open ("/tmp/xmita27498", 03002, 0666) = 5
write (0, "+OK Start sending the message.\r\n", 32) = 32
read (0, "To: mih\r\nSubject: hello xx\r\nhell".., 4096) = 38
ioctl (5, 0x40125401, 0xdfff44c) = -1 ENOTTY (Inappropriate ioctl for device)
fstat (5, 0xdfff480) = 0
brk (0x2dbe4) = 0
read (0,


****

It seems as though the qvt mail is waiting for a response ??


any help ????

marc hoit
mih@ce.ufl.edu
From: dunne@VICENZA-EMH1.ARMY.MIL ("Edward F. Dunn")
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: PC Fucntion Keys & TCP/IP LAN
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:17:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: louie.9209291818.aa12152
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 0:07:53 CET



    Is there a problem using the IBM PC function keys F5 - F10 with any of
the standard PD TCP/IP packages (NCSA/CUTCP)?   Specifically, I have been told
that use of these function keys requires full 8 bit characters, but that these
TCP packages use only 7bits over an 802.3 network.   Is this the case, and if
so could some key-mapping give us a solution?

    We are having to choose between these two TCP/IP packages. What are the
primary advantages/dissadvantages to each?    Or, how about MSkermit?


                    Ed Dunn
From: Agostini@IROE.IROE.FI.CNR.IT
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: Re: rmt ( remote tape ) PC versions of tar or other arch..
Date: 29 Sep 92 09:02:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: louie.9209290437.aa13932
Organization: The Internet

I use  FTP Software PC/TCP software for this. 
There is a tar.exe that use FTP Software kernel to backup on a device
of our Unix server.

I don't now any public domain software of this type.

I hope this help you.


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From: timmi@asylum.sf.ca.us (Timothy G. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: Re: PC/TCP and VMAIL with WP 5.1
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:21:10 GMT
Reply-To: timmi@babyoil.ftp.com
NNTP-Software: PC/TCP NNTP

>Please help me someone, I have been hacking at this for a day. I cannot get
>VMAIL to "automatically include the header fields of messages". I invoke
>VMAIL, send or reply to a message, go into my Word Perfect software -- 
>NO HEADERS! -- 
>
>When I exit Word Perfect, it asks me if I want to send this message. When I 
>say yes, the message is placed in my outgoing mailbox. The TO: field is 
>blank. 
>
>What am I doing wrong?!?!

You need to make sure that the editor entry in your pctcp.ini or
FTP_CONFIG file reads exactly "editor = [drive]:\[path]\wp.exe %s"
The %s is important, without it you will not pull the header template
into the editor.
--
Timothy G. Reynolds					FTP Software
FTP Technical Support					2 High Street
timmi-etc@ftp.com					N. Andover, MA
(508) 685-3600							01845

	"No matter how well meaning they may be, don't let 

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
From: weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Christoph Weber-Fahr [KIT])
Subject: Re: Looking for a mail user agent for the PC.
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 22:16:55 GMT

smoore@nelson.tx.ncsu.edu (Sam Moore) writes:

>I am looking for a mail program for the PC that does not do mail
>transport. We now use a program called Netmail which is not being
>supported anymore. 
[...]
>I am looking for another DOS program that does this. We do not do
>Novell. We do NFS.

>I have looked at PC/TCP's mail system. It lacks a real good user
>interface. One area in which it is lacking is in mail aliases. It
>does not provide a list to select an alais from.

>Please let me know if you know of a mail package for the PC that could
>work with PC/TCP's mail transport, or with the Unix system I
>described above.

Have a look at Pegasus Mail. It has a "Non-Novell" mode and very flexible
configuration for delivery agents. Check especially the udg.zip
file in the pmail distribution.

Regards

Christoph Weber-Fahr

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From: rhoward@matd.gatech.edu (Robert L. Howard)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: Re: CUTCP for FTP Software's kernel?
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:37:24 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute

gdal@gdalsrv.sas.upenn.edu (GDAL Manager) writes:

>   Is there a version of CUTCP that works with FTP Software's 
>kernel? Pointers to ftp sites appreciated.

Why would you want such a thing?  I was under the impression that
FTP's offering came with TN3270, VT220, VT102, VT100...in other
words more than CUTCP does anyway.

It's only us poor PC-NFS people that need CUTCP.... :-(

Robert
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
From: martinher@urvax.urich.edu (Herb Martin - martinher@urvax.urich.edu)
Subject: Re: PC-NFS coexisting with Novell
Reply-To: martinher@urvax.urich.edu
Organization: University of Richmond
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 05:08:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.164225.4935@raid.dell.com>, mikew@thing1.dell.com (Mike Wilson) writes:
>I am trying to run PC-NFS 4.0 and Novell at the same time using the same network
>card.  I have PC-NFS set to use the NDIS driver.  I am using the IPX/SPX from
>Novell.  After PC-NFS is installed I can see the mounted drives.  I then start the
>IPX and I can no longer see the mounted drives.  I think that I need an IPX/NDIS
>driver for Novell.  Does anyone know if one exists?  
>Has anyone tried to use a simular setup and been sucessful?
>In a recent posting I saw a site that one could obtain a NDIS driver for A WD8013
>card.  I couldn't connect to the address that was listed.  Could someone repost
>the address.  I also would like to know where I can get the 4.0a update for
>PC-NFS.  
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Mike Wilson	Dell Computer Corp.	Austin, TX.  
>

There are NDIS drivers for Novell.  Typically you have to buy somebody's
compatibility kit, e.g., DEC Pathworks Coexistance ($150) or Walker,
Richer, Quinn LAT (about $125).

Throw everything but the NDIS.obj away (just kidding you might want to try
the rest) and use the WSGen Novell supplied NLINK to do something like the
following:

nlink -o2 ipxndis.com ipx.obj ndis.obj

The syntax above probably has at least one error, my Novell stuff is at 
work.  Just type 'nlink' with no parameters to get the syntax (or you
could READ the manual but these manuals are awful).

You have to use the NDIS protocol manager that COMES with you Network
card.  But, you are already doing that or your NFS NDIS stuff would not
have worked.

Good luck.
Martinher@urvax.urich.edu (save the address for questions).

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From: jhafstei@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Jon Hafsteinsson)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: SLIP protocol.
Keywords: SLIP
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:58:30 GMT
Organization: Ohio University C.S. Dept, Athens

Please help.
I'm lokking for a description of SLIP protocol (SLIP header). Please e-mail me if you can help.
                      Jon H Hafsteinsson
                       jhafstei@oucsace.ohiou.edu
From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: packet driver for 3Com etherlink III 
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 01:39:23 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

In article <1992Sep28.195020.18500@cs.ucla.edu> kong@maui.cs.ucla.edu writes:

   I was wondering about the availability of a packet driver for the
   3Com etherlink III (the newly announced board).  Is there any
   future plan to write one for it?

It's "working" but not finished.  I plan on having the driver
finished by Interop.

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com>  I'm proud to be a humble Quaker!
Crynwr Software            Crynwr Software sells packet driver support.
11 Grant St.               315-268-1925 Voice
Potsdam, NY 13676          315-268-9201 FAX
From: gdal@gdalsrv.sas.upenn.edu (GDAL Manager)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: CUTCP for FTP Software's kernel?
Date: 30 Sep 92 01:03:51 GMT
Organization: Social Science Computing, University of Pennsylvania


   Is there a version of CUTCP that works with FTP Software's 
kernel? Pointers to ftp sites appreciated.

George
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theall@gdalsrv.sas.upenn.edu		University of Pennsylvania
From: sal8@po.cwru.edu (Steve Luzynski)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: Re: OS/2 and TCP/IP (FAQ?)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:36:53 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b61442.student.cwru.edu

In article <rob.51.0@nike.ct.louisville.edu> rob@nike.ct.louisville.edu (Rob Miracle) writes:
>From: rob@nike.ct.louisville.edu (Rob Miracle)
>Subject: OS/2 and TCP/IP (FAQ?)
>Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:18:17 GMT
>Here at UofL, we have been using the wonderful public domain TCP/IP software
>packages, such as CUTCP, NCSA Telnet, Gopher and so on.  Also, on the NetWare
>side Pegasus mail (though not TCP/IP related).  Of course, this has been in 
>the DOS and Windows world.
>
>The vile and evil OS/2 (half and operating system) will be forcing its way 
>into my life this week.  Since I am part of the University's computing 
>communications group, with a major focus in R&D I have to find free (cheap 
>or even shareware) utilities that will run under OS/2.
>
>My questions to the Net:
>
>1) Can these utilities run under OS/2, if so how.
>
>2) What OS/2 TCP/IP stuff is out there.
>
>We need the basics, Telnet (3270 support), FTP, FTPD, NNTP Netnews, Gopher, 
>POPMail (or Pegasus mail), PING, etc.
>
>Thanks in Advance
>Rob
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You have three choices:

1) Keep running all your old stuff. It will work flawlessly under OS/2. 
(That's how I'm writing this right now). The most important thing to 
remember is not to try running two DOS sessions that both want control of 
the card.

2) Call up IBM's educational inquiry line and beg them for a deal on their 
TCP/IP 1.2.1 package. It has all native mode OS/2 programs and allows for 
fun stuff like concurrent news reading and ftp and pinging, etc. (This is 
the most ideal solution given the money to buy it).

3) Call up FTP software and see how much their OS/2 TCP/IP package runs. I'
ve never worked with it but it's supposed to be nice.

Obviously, choice 1) is the cheapest. Plus your users won't have to learn 
new packages.
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From: sasdgh@cedar.unx.sas.com (Glenn Horton)
Subject: Re: Looking for Socket under Windows with Lan Workplace 4.0
Originator: sasdgh@cedar.unx.sas.com
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 11:35:50 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


In article <1992Oct1.070159.10754@neptune.inf.ethz.ch>, skimmel@iiic.ethz.ch (Stefan Martin Kimmel) writes:
|> I am trying to make a Unix Service to the MSDOS world. Therefore I am
|> looking for an implementation of the socket library that works
|> on Lan Workplace 4.0 (ODI driver) under Windows 3.1. Who knows
|> of such a product? 

	You just need to get the Lan Workplace Toolkit from Novell.
It provides everything you need to write socket apps for Lan Workplace
for DOS.

|> 
|> I heard of the distinct TCP/IP for Windows. Does anybody have
|> experience with it. Does it work under Lan Workplace 4.0?
|> 
|> Does anybody have experience running TCP/IP software under
|> Lan Workplace 4.0 while at the same time using the
|> IPX stack? Does it really work? What do you have to
|> consider when develloping TCP/IP software to react in
|> such a way?

	I do it all the time. I have run TCP/IP and IPX over an
ethernet. I have also run TCP/IP over an ethernet and IPX over
a token ring.

|> 
|> Thank you in advance
|> 
|>                      Stefan
|> 
|> 
|> Stefan Kimmel       | skimmel@inf.ethz.ch
|> 
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