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From: Victoria.M.Haliburton@dartmouth.edu (Victoria M. Haliburton)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: question about TFTV
Date: 13 Aug 92 00:52:07 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Sorry I haven't given this one a good enough listen, but has anyone
else but me caught the Donovan tune in the 1968 stuff?
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From: Alan Sodoma <ajs@jloda.cci.com>
Subject: Re: Northeast Social Calendar
Reply-To: ajs@jloda.cci.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 03:02:34 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.155938.16282@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> you write:
|
|Sunday Aug 16:Spin Doctors at Brookdale Park, Bloomfield NJ.1:00PM.Free.
|Sunday Aug 16:Allman Bros. Garden State Arts Center Holmdel NJ. Night.
|(Maybe you can get here a day early, Jeff)

I heard this on the radio a couple days ago.
This Saturday Aug. 15th:
Allman Bros. w/ Spin Doctors  Weedsport Speedway, Weedsport, NY

Call Ticketmaster to verify tho'!


Al Sodoma


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From: Steve -- The Other One <sjeck@isi.com>
Subject: Re:  smokin' at shows
Reply-To: sjeck@isi.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:44:54 GMT

|You don't have any right to kill the rest of us with your second
|hand smoke, 

do you:
1) smoke pot?
2) drive a car?
3) burn wood in a stove or fireplace?
4) burn your leaves in the fall?
5) burn your trash?

if you answer YES to any of the above, you are a hypocritical
second-hand smoke generator.

|Here is a really effective strategy for discourageing smoking at
|shows. I've done this before though I haven't gone to many shows
|in the last few years. Just bring a good solid water pistol with
|decent range and accuracy, and put peoples ciggarettes out for
|them.

I consider this assault and would defend myself.  Right now,
i feel like strangling your net.connection.

considering quitting reading before quitting smoking,

steve
From: 00sssiler@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: I need info on the Warlocks  :-)
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:58:57 GMT


Hey Now -

I just got the Warlocks Demo from '65.  Different from what I'm
used to hearing, but I most definitely enjoy this tape.  Were the
Warlocks merely the Grateful Dead under a different name or were
there any musicians other than the original Dead crew?  I know 
Jerry changed the name of the group to GD when he came across the
term in the dictionary (or encyclopedia, WHATEVER), but the limits
of my knowledge on this subject.  

If you know the scoop on the Warlocks, please E me some info on
this Pre-Dead group.  

Look THAT up in your Funk and Wagnalls!
Steve Siler
(the sock-it-to-me guy....some of you will understand that, others
 will not.  very interesssstink.)
From: gilde@jaco.ds.boeing.com (Rob Gilde)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Correction to "Life After The Dead" announcement!!!
Date: 21 Aug 92 03:28:29 GMT
Reply-To: gilde@jaco.ds.boeing.com
Organization: The Internet

In my haste to get this info out, I screwed up!

The correct dates are Saturday August 22 and Sunday August 23.  
                             
Sorry.

Rob
From: smauvais@well.sf.ca.us (S Mauvais)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Lithuanian T-Shirts
Date: 16 Aug 92 01:31:40 GMT
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link


The Lituanian Shirts are available through the the Warriors ticket office.
Call 510-638-6300 ext. 505.  I understand they are around $30 and part of
the proceeds will go to the Lituanians.
--scott
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From: solomon@cns.nyu.edu (Joshua Solomon)
Subject: Cassidy improv. break
Reply-To: solomon@cns.nyu.edu
Organization: New York University
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:06:44 GMT

The thoughtful commentary on changes and modes which I've been reading recently
has somewhat helped me wade through all the reports (confirmed and otherwise)
about poor Jerry's health.  Is anyone out there familiar with the chord 
progression in the impovisational break that comes between the final verse
and chorus of Cassidy?  I'm aware that it has evolved over the years.
I would love to see an analysis of this.  If anyone has figured out the
changes from a particular performance or era, please post or e-mail them.
The verses and chorus can be found in the Grateful Dead Anthology (transpose
one half-step down to play along with you live tapes).
	On a related note, I seem to recall a real hot Cassidy close the
1st set at Alpine a couple of years back ('87?).  Does anyone have a
good sounding tape of this?  I have plenty to trade.
js

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From: direwolf@seismo.gps.caltech.edu (Kathy Watts)
Subject: Re: Does Garcia have an obligation?
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 05:16:14 GMT

In article <Aug.12.14.49.50.1992.16273@gandalf.rutgers.edu> pfein@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Peter Fein) writes:
>
>As I now nervously check the net a few times a day looking for
>anything on Jerry's condition.  Wondering if my Cap Center floor seats
>will ever be used a thought comes to mind.  First before I say it let
>me first say that I am a long time deadhead I love all members of the
>band and I am just expressing a thought.  

Major expression of selfishness coming here, friends!

>
>If Jerry really wanted to make the music last for a very long time, do
>you think he should have taken better care of himself especially in
>his later years.  I have taken notice of the recent posts about Jerry
>eating lots of junk food and chain smoking.  If he honestly wanted the
>Dead to play as long as humanly possible maybe he should of changed
>his living habits.  Recently a have read/heard things about other
>members of the band doing things such as excercising, avoiding drugs
>and sticking to patterns of clean living.  (I have a friend who saw
>Bob Weir working out in the hotel gym where the band was staying
>once).  Does Jerry have an obigation to stay healthy and keep the band
>going strong especially since they keep those tours coming.
>

JESUS H. FUCKING CHRIST, MAN!!!  Who owes you - or any of us - anything!
Jerry does what Jerry chooses to do, as should we all.  No one was placed on
this planet to provide YOU with music, guidance, or anything....enjoy what's
been made available to you.  Maybe even contribute something yourself.  But -
whether Jerry plays 20 years more or never again - don't feel like he did it as
a special favor for you all these years!

I've listened to this crap in the chess world for 20 years - why doesn't Bobby
Fischer play any more....

Why don't you go out and see Elvis if you don't want to wait for the Dead when
they're good and ready again!
.

>This is just my thought.  I would like to hear some constructive
>crtisism on this.  But if you feel you must flame me do it civily.
>
Yeah.  And why don't you just *civilly* send your lawyer and your doctor out to
Jerry's place to tell him how to live!



>"Let there be songs to fill the air"
>Pete
>pfein@gandalf.rutgers.edu

There will be Pete!  Even if they are just "songs of our own!"

-direwolf

	"I said my prayers,
	 I went to bed...."

BE WELL, JERRY!

(Let's all make with those positive vibes!)
From: DAMATO@unc.oit.unc.edu (Victor A D'Amato)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Dead ticket refunds
Date: 16 Aug 92 22:13:28 GMT
Reply-To: DAMATO@unc.oit.unc.edu
Organization: The Internet

Could someone post refund instructions for the Cancelled fall
tour?  I called the West Coast hotline, but the part of the message
pertaining to refund instructions was almost completely inaudible.

Thanks,
Vic
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From: cornpop@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Speaker for the Dead)
Subject: shoreline concerts cancelled
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 04:30:41 GMT

Jerry's sick, and there will be no shoreline concerts.  I heard this from a
member of the band before the official press release....

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From: jxr1092@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Jens Rodenberg)
Subject: Re: Deadicated II - more suggestions
Reply-To: jxr1092@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 01:22:32 GMT

Brian Davidson writes:

>Try to imagine this collection:
>
>Dark Star -- Madonna
>Stella Blue -- Guns N Roses
> [rest deleted...]

   How about:

Attics of My Life -- Milli Vanilli
Eyes of the World -- Vanilla Ice
The Other One -- Metallica
Black Peter -- Ozzy and Lita Ford
Shakedown Street -- the Bee Gees
So Many Roads -- The Chipmunks
Corinna -- Run DMC
Slipknot! -- Zamfir (sp?)
Franklin's Tower -- Pavorotti (sp?)
Long Way to Go -- BB King
King Solomon's Marbles -- Scottish Bagpipe Band
He's Gone -- Mormon Tabernacle Choir
Touch of Grey -- Clint Black
Bird Song -- Poison

					Jens

P.S. Actually, there are a couple snuck in there that might be pretty good...

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From: YB93000 <YB93%FERRIS.bitnet@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu>
Subject: dead flames
Reply-To: YB93%FERRIS.bitnet@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:22:23 GMT

Please add my name to your mailing list for the dead flames
subscription.  I am eager to hear all the flame about the
grateful dead.
My mailing address is yb93@ferris.bitnet
My name is Good News.
Thank you in advance.
Hope to hear from you soon.

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From: andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com
Subject: Nice work Curtiss Moffitt!!!
Reply-To: andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:51:49 GMT


	Curtiss' post on modes and their relation to The Music has given
me new hope for this group.  I have tryed to digest his chosen topic several
times in the past and found it tedious at best.  His method of explanation
inspired me to pick up my bass and run through the modes while taking note
of their characteristic "sound".  Keep up the fine work, brother!  Your post
was a breath of fresh air.   

  
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From: cls@truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Subject: Re: Quayles Council Stops Smoking Bans!
Organization: Save the Humans!
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 05:24:25 GMT
Summary: you can do something about it

In article <1992Aug21.184517.12136@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> sjeck@isi.com writes:
>
>
>COMPLAINT ABOUT QUAYLE'S COUNCIL
>3 health groups say it could undermine needed rules
>
>AP-Washington
>
>Three major US health organizations say a council headed
>by Vice President Dan Quayle is using its powers to 
>"reshape, re-write, or eliminate" federal regulations
...
>Yet another example of duplicity by the non-smoking
>Republicans :-)
>

You can help stop the Quayle Council.  Write your senators and ask
them to support Sen John Glenn's "Regulatory Review Sunshine Act," S.1942,
which outlaws the secrecy and evasion of checks and balances practiced
by the so-called President's Council on Competitiveness.
All Senators may be mailed at
    The Honorable <full name>
    U S Senate
    Washington, DC 20510.
No cracks about the honorableness of Senators please; a polite activist
is an effective activist.
Last month I posted the 20/20 bulletin on this subject in
alt.save.the.earth and talk.environment.  If you can't read those groups
but you want the bulletins (I post RAN and Earthcare too, with author's
permission!), drop me a line and I'll put you on my email distribution.  

ODC:  Bob does RAN also.

Cameron in San Jose.  "Every day is Election Day!"  See ya!
From: pha@reed.edu (Paul Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re:   The Grateful Dead and the Mixolydian Mode...
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:30:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Aug18.163035.7801
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR


Someone (OK, I lost track) proposed that The Other One was in some
key besides Mixolydian, and Someone Else denied it.

My experience is that, while the chords are in the Mixolydian (most
of it in an E major triad), the solo is played with a flattened
third - a G natural. DESPITE the E major chord "beneath" it. Far as
I know, this is normal practice in the six-note "blues" scale. 
So the actual scale you play would have the same notes as a
D major: E F# G A B C# D E.

Anyone know what this is called? E Phrygian? Aeolian? Lesbian?

Paul Anderson
Reed College
From: bz206@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Hack)
Subject: Re:  smokin' at shows
Reply-To: bz206@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Hack)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 06:42:36 GMT


In a previous article, quaglia@seas.smu.edu (Big Queer) says:
>In article <1992Aug20.180051.1294@dirac.physics.sunysb.edu> mfeller@dirac.physics.sunysb.edu (Mark Feller) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug20.052450.6586@seas.smu.edu> quaglia@seas.smu.edu (Big Queer) writes:
>>>In article <1992Aug20.002108.19239@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> sjeck@isi.com writes:
>>>>quaglia@seas.smu.edu (Big Queer)writes
>>>>
>>>>|Well, Yeah, I'm for real. As I mentioned before, if you are stealthy
>>>>|they really don't know where it came from.
>>>>
>>>>Don't you mean if you are a chicken-shit, little piss-ant?
>>>>
>>>Well, I could be mistaken, maybe the fact that I'm 6'4" and built made
>>>them *pretend* they didn't know where it came from...
>>
>>  Oh, so you're a muscle-bound power freak then? That would explain a lot.
>>  More likely you're just a 6'4", built, chicken-shit, little piss-ant.
>>  Try that water pistol crap with me and you'll be a 6'4", built,
>>  chicken-shit, little piss-ant with a water pistol up her ass.
>No actually I'm more like a panda, cute and docile but nobody in their right
>would knowingly provoke me.....

Look out,  Bruce, the shit is getting deep again!  

>>>No. I wasn't, but if you'd like a piece of me you'll have to come
>>>to Texas 'cause I don't travel to shows anymore. <you're probably
>>>stupider than you realize...>

Why would anyone want a "piece" of you, Bruce?

>>  stupid??? Sheesh, read your own posts. You sound like a typical
>>  Texan. I saw a bunch of 'em on CNN last night. Betcha got one of those
>>  little pink cowboy hats with the Bush sticker too.
>>
>Oh yep thaaaz' right pahdnah. We all cherish our *right* to bear arms down
>here in the last frontier of freedomthe glorious state of Texass. So y'all bettah watch yer ass if you come down here to George Bush's home state. 

Yup, it is becoming very clear to us.  You are a "Bush" head.

>>  Well, the GD don't seem to want to go to Texas -- can't say I 
>>  blame them -- the good news being that you won't be at any shows.
>>
>>  Have fun at the convention, Bruce. 
>
>
>"ohhh we don't smoke marijuana down by the courthouse,
>we don't take no trips on LSD...."

We know.  That is what is wrong with you guys.  Without marijuana and
LSD, all there is left to do is pull on your dick and buttfuck little
sister Becky down by the ole swimmin hole.

>For someone who was threatening that I should "watch my ass" you sound
>like a pansy. Is the little ittsy bittsy squirt gun a violent assault
>on your ohhso sensitive person --schnnokums?

Speaking of pansy's, Bruce, why don't you tell everyone why you got
your ass kicked out of the Frat your first year?  Can you say
"come here, little boy"?
From: tnf@well.sf.ca.us (David Gans)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: It's official: Fall tour CANCELLED
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:56:59 GMT
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link


 
 This just in by fax from GDP:
 
 
 
 As the week has passed, we've learned that Jerry Garcia's recuperation will
 take longer than we'd initially hoped.  We remain certain that he will
 return to full good health, but the rest and care he needs will require us
 to cancel the fall East Coast tour.  Jerry is in the care of a physician at
 home and is on the mend, but it will take time.
 
        (Doctor's statement to come - I'll post it when I get it - DG)
 
 We realize that this comes as very disturbing news for many people, so let
 us be clear: he IS ill, but the right steps are being taken.
 
 As Grateful Dead bassist Phil Lesh commented, "I talked to Elvis this
 morning myself and he said they already have too many guitarists up there,
 and he also doesn't need any competition in the postage stamp market."  More
 seriously, Lesh added, "We expect to be performing with Jerry before the
 end of the year even though right now he's dead tired."
 
 Thank you for your love and prayers.
 
 Best,
 
 Grateful Dead

-- 

	David Gans	tnf@well.sf.ca.us
			{apple,pacbell,hplabs,ucbvax}!well!tnf
From: pc@slipknot.eng.pyramid.com (pc)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Fate of the Grateful Dead
Date: 20 Aug 92 01:38:01 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology

In article <1992Aug19.154805.15144@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> trwei@pica.army.mil writes:
>Hey folks,                     
>
>Take this with a grain of salt if you choose.  I don't usually believe in 3rd
>party rumors but what I heard last night really upset me.  I have a friend
>who is a NeXT machine user and she knows a lot of people who are involved with
>it.  One of the people she knows is John Barlow (sp?) who is a writer for the
>NeXT magazine and for the Grateful Dead.  If you don't recall, some of the songe
>he help write are Throwing Stones, Mexically Blues, Hell in a Bucket.  Anyway,
>he and Bob Weir are good friends and (here comes the "he said, she said" part)
>my friend said that John said that Bob said that this may be the end of the
>band as far as he can tell.  DON'T GET EXCITED.  This is not definite but a
>posibility.  I don't know who else Bob told this to or what mood or frame of
>mind he was in at that time but this is just Bob's prediction and it is also
>just a rumor I heard last night.  Let just hope Bob is wrong and hold the
>flaming down to a minimum.  Take care folks.

I figured this rumor is pretty easy to check up on, with John being here
on the net, so I forwarded it to him.

Here is his response....


From: barlow@icecube.pinedale.wy.us (John Perry Barlow)
Message-Id: <9208192307.AA02428@icecube.pinedale.wy.us>
Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63.RR)
To: pc@pyramid.com, mmdf@uvaarpa.virginia.edu
Subject: Re: net-rumor

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY WITHOUT FOUNDATION. PLEASE REMOVE IT AT ONCE.

Bobby said nothing of this sort to me. Even had he done so, I would have
known better.

Jerry's current condition presents no immediate threat either to him or to
the Grateful Dead. It is, however, a sufficiently serious warning to merit
cancelling the immediately upocoming shows so that he could have time to
rest, get some exercise, and generally regain his health.

------


One more rumor bites the dust. 8-)

pc
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From: REEDR@opsusa.decnet.siemens.com (Randy - QA Program Coordinator, SMS Iselin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Ireland Info . . .
Date: 22 Aug 92 14:16:43 GMT
Reply-To: REEDR@opsusa.decnet.siemens.com
Organization: The Internet


	You can get the latest scoop on Ireland from the list
	GAELIC-L@IRLEARN.BITNET. to subscribe send the command
	"SUBSCRIBE GAELIC-L firstname lastname" to LISTSERV at
	the same address.  Good luck on your trip - It's great
	over there!
	
	Aiko Aiko . . .				Randy Reed - SYSOP
						Velocity Box BBS
						3 lines of 14.4K fun!
						908-727-4263   8-N-1
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From: opie@athena.mit.edu (Timothy H Olson)
Subject: Allman Bros@Great Woods
Keywords: Allmans, luck
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:08:44 GMT

	Well it looks like the ticket gods have decided to redeem themselves
in my eyes. Having blown my wad on BG shows, I had regrettably committed to
not attending the 8/19 Allman Bros. show at Great Woods. But yesterday at 6:00
pm EDT, I was the lucky winner of 4 lawn seats to the shows courtesy of WBCN
radio. This gave me very little time to A) find a car to take me there, B) 
gather the necessities for a wet night in an outdoor amphitheatre, and C) find
three others willing to drop their plans for the evening and attend (this was the easy part ;-)
	Needless to say, I arrived late, and missed my favorite song, Blue Sky, (have a listen to the version on the new live release -> it still smokes). But
happily arrived just as they entered into Melissa. The Allman's set selection definitely appeals to the casual fan (like myself). Nearly everything you think
they should play, they do...Dreams, Revival, Whipping Post...all in all a great
show, definitely worth the price of admission :-)
	An interesting side note: a current trend at Great Woods shows appears
to be numerous scattered bonfires throughout the lawn seating. Friends told
me this was also true for the Lollapalooza shows. They definitely make for an
different atmosphere if you so desire. In a span of 25 feet I went from a completely empty spot on the lawn to a crowded mass of chanting fans running in large circles around a huge bonfire made from the shirts and blankets of the 
participants. That is until the newly created security/firemen task force showed up with their little tanks of water...It was rather humorous.
	ODC: GDTRFB! That was pleasant and I didn't really expect it. Have the Allman's been playing that regularly on this tour?

	One last note, I noticed that this concert was the first I had attended in some time that I haven't been under the influence of some sort of chemical
stimulation, not even a few beers. It seems like it's kind of a concert 
tradition to get fucked up in some way or another. But for the record, a show
can be just as enjoyable totally sober. Although I still vote for the couple
of pre-show beers, just to loosen up and not care so much about everybody else 
around you watching you dance like an idiot :-)...


						Timothy Olson "Opie"
						(opie@athena.mit.edu)


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From: "Randy - QA Program Coordinator, SMS Iselin" <REEDR@opsusa.decnet.siemens.com>
Subject: Terrapin Station BBS & Eyes of the World Forum
Reply-To: REEDR@opsusa.decnet.siemens.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:15:18 GMT

	Thanks for the good news about Terrapin Station BBS!  I wasn't
	able to get through and thought the worst.  Just to recap a bit,
	yes, they were hit by lighting, but are back up at 203-656-0134!
	
	The Eyes of the World Forum is on the Velocity Box BBS in central
	New-Joisy.  When you're done at Terrapin, give us a call at
	908-727-4263!  We have three lines at 14.4Kbps and FREE access
	to all dead-heads!  Trade tapes, tickets, just chat, or whatever!
	
	The Velocity Box also has 14.4Kbps modems for sale for $320.00.
	
	Aiko Aiko . . .			Randy Reed - SYSOP
					Velocity Box BBS
					3 lines of 14.4K fun!
					908-727-4263  8-N-1
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From: sedel@fid.morgan.com (Steven Edelstein)
Subject: test
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Co., New York, NY
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:54:25 GMT

Please ignore, sorry
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead