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From: gandigli@torino.maraut.it (Flavio Gandiglio)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Problem with chgrp on NFS-disks
Date: 21 Jan 1993 11:28:19 GMT
Organization: Magneti Marelli, Electronics Division (ITALY)
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: nocciola.torino.maraut.it
Keywords: chgrp NFS `Not owner'

I hope this is the right group in which to post this question, 
sorry if it isn't.

I have a problem between DEC and SUN to change group permissions.
By nfs the chgrp command (on SUN) doesn't work on file on DEC machine 
but works on NFS on SUN machine.	Why?
Sun said that is a little bug, but nobody knows the solution (or workaround).

My configurations are :
-DEC and SUN with YP maps (group, passwd, netid.bynum)
-SUN and DEC CLient of yp with "+:" into the file /etc/groups
-DEC and SUN FyleSystems exported with permissions

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Examples :

SunOS UNIX (ananas)
 
login: gandigli
Password:

ananas 12:02:~ 1 > pwd ; df .
/usr/local_users/gandigli
Filesystem            kbytes    used   avail capacity  Mounted on
/dev/sd0e             239383  183890   31555    85%    /usr/local_users

ananas 12:03:~ 2 > touch YYY

ananas 12:03:~ 3 > ls -lag
-rw-r--r--  1 gandigli users           0 Jan 21 12:05 YYY

ananas 12:03:~ 4 > groups
users metodolo

ananas 12:03:~ 5 > chgrp metodolo YYY

ananas 12:03:~ 6 > ls -lag YYY
-rw-r--r--  1 gandigli metodolo		0 Jan 21 12:05 YYY

AND IT'S ALL OK.	BUT...
	
ananas 12:03:~ 2 > cd /usr/pccommon/tmp

ananas 12:03:~ 3 > pwd ; df .
/usr/pccommon/tmp
Filesystem            kbytes    used   avail capacity  Mounted on
merlino-17:/usr/pccommon
                      122607   94598   15749    86%    /usr/pccommon

	[ merlino-17 is a dec host - DECServer 5500]

ananas 12:04:/usr/pccommon/tmp 4 > touch XXX

ananas 12:04:/usr/pccommon/tmp 5 > ls -lag
-rw-r--r--  1 gandigli users           0 Jan 21 12:05 XXX

ananas 12:04:/usr/pccommon/tmp 6 > groups
users metodolo

ananas 12:04:/usr/pccommon/tmp 7 > chgrp metodolo XXX
chgrp: XXX: Not owner

What is this 'chgrp: XXX: Not owner'   ?????????

Any suggests are appreciated. Mail to gandigli@torino.maraut.it

	THANKS.
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    Magneti Marelli
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    C.so Giulio Cesare, 328		Fax:	+39 - 11 - 2411.316
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From: gdmr@dcs.ed.ac.uk (George Ross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: 630MP boot problem revisited
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:44:20 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Edinburgh University

In article <LIMES.93Jan20220210@straylight.eng.sun.com>, limes@straylight.eng.sun.com (Greg Limes) writes:
> So, on the SS1 (and cousins), you boot from sd0 just as you would
> expect, but the target is #3. Frankly, I have no idea what an SS1
> would do if fed a double-disk shoebox (ie. target #0, lun #1).

Works fine, as I recall, provided you tell your kernel about it.  By default
you just get to speak to LUN#0.
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.admin:10807 comp.unix.solaris:501
From: rusty@groan.Berkeley.EDU (Rusty Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: how are you managing the new licenses?
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:58:27
Organization: University of California Berkeley
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: groan.berkeley.edu

We're going to have a meeting with some of the mucky-mucks at Sun, and
we may be able to convince them that the current situation with their
SunOS 5.x license manager isn't really workable in a University
environment.  They would like to hear what's wrong with it.

We're wondering what administrative plans, setup, mechanisms, etc.
other universities and educational institutions (i.e., places with a
ScholarPAK site license) have for managing the SunOS 5.x licenses.  If
your site is setting things up to manage the paperwork and licenses
for the SunOS 5.x license managed products, we need to hear how you're
going to do it.  Also feel free to tell us what problems,
difficulties, extra work, etc. you expect to encounter managing
licenses.

Please try to be specific and detailed; flaming and foaming at the
mouth isn't likely to give us much ammunition to get them to fix
things.

Thanks in advance!
From: hiren@teknetix.com (Hiren Shah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Do SPARC 1 programs run on SPARC 10 ?
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:35:28 GMT
Organization: Teknetix


Hi:
 
I am trying to find out if the programs that run on SPARC 1 
would run on SPARCstation 10.
If this is a faq, can you please direct me to the place I 
can get the faq from
Thanks in advance
 
Hiren
 
Please reply to
hiren@teknetix.com
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: kiron@vedge.com (Kiron D. Bondale)
Subject: Reverse screen key combos in Solaris 2.x
Organization: Visual Edge Software Ltd.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:50:04 GMT

Hi all...

possibly a silly question that would be solved if I RTFM, but the only
manual I got with my Solaris 2.x upgrades were the installation guides.

In Sun OS 4.1.x, I used to be able to do the old <esc>-[-p/q to flip
the colors of the screen from black on white to white on black at the
login prompt.  This no longer works in 2.x... is there a new set of
keystrokes to accomplish this, or has Sun decided to let everyones's
non-X consoles burn in?

Kiron

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From: nanda@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: help ftp problem
Date: 26 Jan 93 10:33:32 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Hi!!

I am having problems with the FTP on my Sum workstation. I can ftp out of it
but not into it. Am I supposed to have a config file for it?

pls send reply to nanda@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
or Jolly@cadlab.engr.ukans.edu

thanks in advance


-sushmeeta nanda

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: a159075@phceac36.cad-sg.ce.philips.nl ( PETER VAN AKEN       )
Subject: Sun workstations as X-terminals ?
Summary: Want to use SUN 3/4 as X-terminal
Keywords: X, Sun3, Sun4
Organization: Philips Consumer Electronics, Eindhoven
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 08:34:30 GMT

Living in a CAD environment I am confronted with a growing demand on system
resources from the application. Because the installed base includes some SUN3
and early SUN4 machines and do not want to invest in any extra's for these 
workstations, we are thinking to use those systems as X-terminals. 
Information about this usage can not be found in the SUN documentation and I
would like to see if this info is available in the net.

I heard from something called xkernel but it seems only to be available for
SUN3. Please E-mail me if you have any info which might help me finding a
solution...



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From: stephen@orchid.UCSC.EDU (coram populo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Help with FIND in shell script
Date: 26 Jan 1993 23:16:56 GMT
Organization: Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: orchid.ucsc.edu

Can someone give me an idea on how to make the find command use
the {} in the -exec usage.

For example, I want to mail users automagically when their mail
in the system spool is over a particular size.

e.g. as I wrote it -

find * -size 100000c -exec mail {} < ./mailmessage \;

But this does not work- it never finds the < ./mailmessage part.

Thanks in advance for suggestions etc.

Stephen Hauskins
UCSC
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: jan@univie.ac.at (Jan M. Stankovsky)
Subject: SCSI _ SYNC - CDC WREN IV
Keywords: sync scsi
Organization: Vienna University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 12:11:00 GMT


Since none of my CDC Wren V 94171-350 get Synchronous at 4 mb/s with SS 1+
i wonder if it's not possible with this type of HD.
There's no problem with CDC Wren V 94181-702.

So am i right, or not?

thanks for all comments 


jan@ifs.univie.ac.at
From: jack@ccsf.caltech.edu (Jack Stewart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Sun Solaris 1.x on new Sun Classic
Date: 21 Jan 1993 22:01:47 GMT
Organization: CCSF Caltech, Pasadena, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: laguna.ccsf.caltech.edu

In article <1ji0gvINNc90@gap.caltech.edu>, jack@ccsf.caltech.edu (Jack Stewart) writes:
> > 
> > Has anyone been able to load Solaris 1.x on the new Classic ?
> 
> My understanding from the Sun Engineer at the local sales office is
> that Sun modified the Boot Prom on the Sun Classic and LX so that they
> would only run Solaris 2.X or higher...

This is what I was told by our Local Sales Rep. and SE (quite
literally) but it was wrong.  I should know better than to trust a
salesman (or think that he was in the know).  I got the following
reply from someone within Sun.

"The "problem" is in the CPU/MMU/FPU complex itself in that it requires
changes to the basic HAT layer of the OS. ... A 4.1.4 release would have
been necessary. Since the resources to do an OS release are finite,
one could have had 2.x slippage, quality reduction, etc. vs. no 4.1.4."

I also understand that Solaris 2.X was supposed to be out and well
accepted in the market place before the LX/Classics were announced.
But as I think everyone who reads this group is aware, there have been
a few problems with Solaris 2 ... 

So I apologize for any confusion that I may have caused.  The BOOT
PROM has nothing to do with it and there was no delibrate plot to
force people into Solaris.

---Jack

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: hughm@brwal.inmos.co.uk (Hugh McIntyre)
Subject: Re: Help with FIND in shell script
Organization: INMOS Limited, Bristol, UK
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 13:34:28 GMT

In article <1k4gp8INN8ei@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, stephen@orchid.UCSC.EDU (coram populo) writes:
|> Can someone give me an idea on how to make the find command use
|> the {} in the -exec usage.
|> 
|> For example, I want to mail users automagically when their mail
|> in the system spool is over a particular size.

Sounds like a good way to fill up the filesystem if they don't read their mail
since the mailbox will just keep getting bigger and bigger every time a warning
message is added ...

|> e.g. as I wrote it -
|> 
|> find * -size 100000c -exec mail {} < ./mailmessage \;
|> 
|> But this does not work- it never finds the < ./mailmessage part.

You may need a script mailwarn, eg:

-------------------------------
#! /bin/sh
#
mail $* < ./mailmessage $1
-------------------------------

find * -size 100000c -exec ./mailwarn {} \;

|> Thanks in advance for suggestions etc.
|> 
|> Stephen Hauskins
|> UCSC

Hugh McIntyre.
INMOS, Bristol, UK.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Problems with wuarchive ftpd
From: oleg@gd.       (Oleg Kibirev)
Date: 21 Jan 93 04:16:45 PST
Organization: Computer Science Departement of California State University in Fresno
Keywords: ftpd, in.ftpd

In article <chris.727473263@wuarchive.wustl.edu> chris@wupost.wustl.edu (Chris Myers) writes:
>gdc11@cus.cam.ac.uk (G.D. Carver) writes:
>
>>I've just installed the wuarchive.wustl.edu version of the Sun ftpd.
>>It's working fine apart from the fact that the -l option, to log anon (or any)
>>ftpd sessions doesn't appear to be working. I get nothing logged to
>>the /var/log/syslog file. Can anyone help me out?
>>
>>My /etc/inetd.conf file has this entry:
>>ftp   stream   tcp   nowait   root   /usr/local/etc/ftpd    ftpd -l -a
>>
>>I remembered to send inetd a HUP to get it to read the new inetd.conf.
>>The access file is being used.
>>
>>Any ideas?
>
>It's a bug in SunOS.  The short summary is that syslog, which is used
>to log commands and such by the ftpd, breaks after a chroot() call.
>chroot() is the function used to set up the anonymous FTP security such
>that only files in the anonymous FTP hierarchy can be accessed.
>
>There is no fix available from Sun.  A workaround is to replace the
>standard syslog() with one that uses TCP (rather than UNIX domain
>sockets) to contact the syslogd.  I will be happy to mail this to
>people on request.  Please send E-MAIL to chris@wugate.wustl.edu if
>you want the TCP syslog code (this means that if you request a copy
>via news I will ignore you, mainly because I don't normally read this
>newsgroup).
>

Well, unless you can put /dev directory and ~ftp on the same filesystem.
Than making a hard link to /dev/log in ~ftp/dev/log should work fine.

Oleg

>Chris Myers
>wuarchive.wustl.edu Archive Maintainer
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From: moliver@pyramid.com (Mike Oliver)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pyramid
Subject: Re: Phone number of Pyramid?
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:56:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Pyramid Technology

In article <1jk0toINN8bv@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> condor@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (George Kontoravdis) writes:
>Does anyone know a number for Pyramid?

The Texas office is in Dallas at (214) 248 2593.  The switchboard
number at corporate HQ in San Jose CA is (408) 428 9000.

Cheers, Mike.

moliver@pyramid.com
{allegra,decwrl,hplabs,munnari,sun,utai,uunet}!pyramid!moliver
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pyramid,comp.sys.att
From: rkh@ucs.att.com (Bob Halloran)
Subject: snmpd for Pyramid OSx5.1, 3B2 v3.2.3?
Organization: AT&T Universal Card Services, Jacksonville FL
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:33:12 GMT

Is there an SNMP agent for the above machines available?
The 3B is running Wollongong's TCP v3.2, if that matters.
Thanks in advance.

	Bob Halloran
	AT&T Universal Card
	Jacksonville FL

	rkh@ucs.att.com
Any similarity between opinions stated here and AT&T's 
  corporate opinion are purely coincidental.

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S Thompson
From: 92637966s@sgcl1.unisg.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Lotus Organize for Win - Palmtop
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:55:56 GMT
Organization: University of St.Gallen, Switzerland


Hy everyone,

One of my plans for 1993 was, to organize my life a little bit better. So 
I bought Organize for Windows from Lotus for my notebook. But I have I few
problems now:
It takes too long to start up my notebook when I want to enter something into
Lotus Organize - so I don't do it and my plan is ruined.

I thought of a solution --> Buy yourself an little Organizer which is 
convertible to Lotus Organize for Windows.

Now my question: Is there an Organizer on the market that has a link program
that converts data from (and to) the Lotus Organize Program.
How good are these Organizers? - Do I still need my program on my notebook?

Thanks for any help, 
Please reply by Email

Christian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: iikkap@mits.mdata.fi (Iikka Paavolainen)
Subject: 80x24(25) display program
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 10:11:16 GMT

Where can I obtain this much-spoken-of program that lets the HP95LX
have a screen of 80x25?

Please reply in E-mail, as I cannot catch all articles that are posted here.

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From: anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Questions about 95-LX
Date: 21 Jan 1993 21:09:44 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <1jdfhpINNie2@shelley.u.washington.edu> mhuth@hardy.u.washington.edu (Mark Huth) writes:
>Some general questions about the 95-LX.  First, can someone point me toward
>an inexpensive source for a 1 meg machine?  Alternatively, should I buy a 512
>machine and get aftermarket upgrades?  I'd like to use the machine to 

There was only one upgrade available and that was from HP.  The upgrade
program officially ended December 31 but it may still be available.

>exchange information with Lotus Organizer...does a program to do such a thing
>exist?  What accessories should I get with the machine?  I presume a cable
>to allow data exchange with my desktops is critical, is HP's the best choice?

I don't know of any programs to move data between Lotus Organizer and
the 95's applications.  Since Lotus wrote nearly all the software in
the 95 there's a (slim) chance that Lotus Organizer can directly read
the files.  If not, the file formats are well documented and programs
are available that will convert to plain ASCII and some other formats.

A case is a good idea, I use the Sharp Wizard case with some velcro.
EduCALC sells that case as well as others made specifically for the 95.

There are a bunch of different commercial cables available.  I have the
plain EduCALC (it's marked Nuvotech) 4 pin to 9 pin female cable.  It
plugs right into the back of my MS-DOS machine with no other adapters
(integral null modem).  If you plan on using a 95 with a modem or
printer often you might want to get one of the switchable cables or
adapter kits.  HP seems to have a nice kit and EduCALC has a some nice
kits as well.  A cable is a cable for the most part.  You might want to
get HP's Connectivity Kit, it has an MS-DOS version of all the software
on the 95 (except Lotus 123) and can run other System Manager
applications.  The kit also has DC95/DCS95 which serial port virtual
disk package.

A PCMCIA card drive is faster and better in some other ways than
a serial cable.  However the cheapest drives are about $150.  It
also means buying a SRAM card and keeping most data on the card.

>Finally, has anybody got it running with os/2?

Do you mean OS/2 on the 95?  The 95 has a NEC V20 processor which is
basicly a faster Intel 8088 with a built in Z-80 mode (yes, the 95 can
run CP/M software).  OS/2 won't run.  The Connectivity Kit will
apparently run on OS/2 with some adjustment.
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From: richw@hplsla.hp.com (Rich Wilson)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:14:41 GMT
Subject: Re: Morse Code program for the 95LX . . ?
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops

/ hplsla:comp.sys.palmtops / mkeiser@sccarace.EBay.Sun.COM (Mark Keiser) /  9:20 am  Jan 27, 1993 /
Okay - here's one.  How about a morse code program for the 95LX?  (Someday
I'll get to General!)

----------

I downloaded three programs from a bbs, with the following results:

Supermorse ran, but very strangely.  It would start out very slowly,
gradually increase in speed, until the characters were just a blur, and
about five would go by in 100mS.  Then, suddenly, it would start over,
going slowly again.  It would repeat this cycle every five seconds or so.
I also made the mistake of not exiting this program when turning off
the 95LX, and found it beeping at 2:00 AM the next day, with dead
batteries.  I'd like a technical explanation of what's going on here...
(the speed variation that is; I understand the turn-on at midnight)

A second program wouldn't run at all.

The third program, Morse Master, runs, with one slight problem noticed.
I think the timing varies slightly depending upon whether a key is
pressed, so pressing keys to generate code in real time doesn't work
too well.  I found it as self-extracting morsms.com; the documentation
claims it should be named morsmstr.arc or morsmstr.zip.

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From: phudl@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr S J Liddicott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: S3: Shall I get 1M RAM or 2M FLASH?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 20:00:06 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: emmental.csv.warwick.ac.uk

In article <1993Jan26.135023.8152@city.cs> lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun) writes:
>I mentioned some theoretical pros and cons of RAM vs FLASH SSD's earlier.
>But I may now actually have the choice between 1M RAM and 2M FLASH. What
>opinions/experiences do people have?


I say get RAM.  It's easier to use, you know you always have the full MEG.
You don't have to think about it.

With FLASH, you wan't be able to have more than 1MEG permanantly stored
anyway, because you have to leave yourself with enough slack.
With RAM you won't have the risk of misjudging your slack.  FLASH is
only good for a certain (largish) number of formats anyway.

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From: rob@firefox.uk.sun.com (Rob Latham - Sun Logistics Europe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Psion 3 Views, or other machine recomme
Date: 19 Jan 1993 09:15:21 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems (UK) Ltd
Distribution: world
Reply-To: rob@firefox.uk.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: firefox.uk.sun.com

>I don't know what they cost in the USA, but I bought mine here in England
>for 169 pounds.  Whatever you do, make sure you get the 256k model, NOT
>the 128k.

Is this the price of the 256k model ?

The best price I've found for the 256K model is 249, where should I be looking ?

Robert.




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