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From: ychung@cayley.waterloo.edu (Young Chung)
Subject: 1991 UD Football Promo. for sale.
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 08:30:17 GMT

I have a set of 1991 UD Football Promotional cards.
It is a two card set consisting of Joe Montana and Barry Sanders.
They are in Mint condition and in screw down plastic case.
The front of the cards have the same picture as the regular ones, I think.
The differences are the the number at the back is red instead of blue, the
stats are in different colour than the regular issue, and the UD logo in the
front is a bit bigger while the (R) logo is smaller.
I ask no less than $80 for the set or $45 each.

e-mail your response.


-------------
How long do those Energizers last anyway?
                                          I don't know, I have rechargables.
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Newsgroups: rec.collecting
From: moyj@warren1a.its.rpi.edu (Jayson Moy)
Subject: Re: CARDS: FB Rookie Sensation checklist?
Keywords: fleer fb sensations
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:07:45 GMT

In article <BrvLB3.9nC@news.cso.uiuc.edu> msvg2539@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark V.) writes:
>
>Can somebody fill in the following checklist for me?
>
>

Sure can!!!!!!!


>1992 Fleer Football Rookie Sensations:
>-------------------------------------
>
>1. Moe Gardner
>2. Mike Pritchard
>3.
	Stan Thomas 
>4.
	Larry Brown

>5.
	Todd Lyght
>6. James Joseph
>7. Aeneas Williams
>8.
	Ed King
>9.
	Michael Jackson
>10.
	Mike Croel

>11. Kenny Walker
>12. Tim Barnett
>13. Nick Bell
>14. Todd Marinovich
>15. Leonard Russell
>16.
	Pat Harlow
>17.
	Mo Lewis
>18.
	John Kasay
>19
	Lawrence Dawsey
>20.
	Charles McRae
>
>Thanks,
>
>  Mark V.
>
>

Jayson Moy
moyj@rpi.edu



Newsgroups: rec.collecting
From: pinch@cs.washington.edu (Ricardo Pincheira)
Subject: Redmond, WA race results (sort of)
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 18:13:09 GMT

This past Sunday the 19th there were a few races in Redmond, WA, which is
essentially a suburb of Seattle.  The premier event was a 10K (I suspect it
was a little shy of that) around a criterium-style clockwise "around the block"
course, 15 laps to the race.  1/2 of the course was nice and smooth, 1/2 of
it was "popcorn" type asphalt with a couple of manhole covers strategically
located in the turns.  Yuck.   Luckily there were no spills save for
a couple of people who went down at the start.  The top 5 order of finish was:
KC Boutiette (Hyper), Doug Glass (Hyper), Tony Meibole, John Svensson
(Ultra Wheels), Gary Gandee.  Unfortunately, times were not available
(and something tells me they never will be -- there were clear and glaring
errors in the order of finish results, at least further down in the field.)
As far as I could tell, KC took off after roughly 5 laps and steadily pulled
away from the lead pack.  With roughly 4 laps or so left, he picked up the
pace yet again to a truly phenomenal level and finished alone.  Whew.  I
don't know if 2nd-5th finished in a pack or if it broke up a little at the end.

Ricardo
Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: ck10322@china.medtronic.com (Cameron Kaszas)
Subject: Ice Capades Alumni?
Organization: Medtronic, Inc., Minneapolis, MN
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 13:44:11 GMT

Any former professional figure skaters out here?

 - Cam Kaszas
Xref: sparky rec.skate:2360 ba.general:3139
From: bryguy@apple.com (bRYgUY K. Carter)
Newsgroups: rec.skate,ba.general
Subject: Re: Skating locations in the SF Bay Area?
Date: 17 Jul 92 17:05:23 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.


Try the Los Gatos Creek Trail from Vassona Park all the way into
San Jose.

In article <ym!mss.silent1@netcom.com>, silent1@netcom.com (Tapani J Otala) writes:
> 
> 
> I'm looking for info/recommendations on [inline] skating locations
> in the SF Bay Area, Mountain View/Sunnyvale/Los Altos/Palo Alto
> region preferred.  Also, pointers on 'skate paths' (i.e. the skating
> equivalent of bike paths) are welcome.
> 
> As a side note... according to the CA vehicle code, what exactly
> _is_ a skater anyways?  Pedestrian?  Cyclist?  Bottom line: is it
> ok to skate on the bike lane? (yeah, you guessed right, I'm a silly
> foreigner ;-}
> 
> 
> -- 
>   -- Tapani.Otala@hut.fi ----------------------------------------------
>     -- k36853p@saha.hut.fi --------- Words are only painted fire; -------
>       -- silent1@netcom.com ---------- a look is the fire itself. ---------
>         -- 'SilentOne' on IRC ------------------- Mark Twain ----------------
Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: mcdonald@refine.enet.dec.com (.)
Subject: In-line lessons in the Boston area?
Reply-To: mcdonald@refine.enet.dec.com (.)
Organization: .
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:12:44 GMT



	My previous message didn't mention that I was requesting
	IN-LINE lessons in the Boston area... which caused some confusion.
	So here it is once again:

		I'm looking for intermediate and beginner in-line 
		lessons in the Boston, Mass area... any suggestions
		would be greatly appreciated.

							- Mac
From: aboulang@bbn.com (Albert Boulanger)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: Anybody prefer blading on worn wheels?
Date: 23 Jul 92 13:48:48
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
Reply-To: aboulanger@bbn.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: kariba.bbn.com
In-reply-to: kalin@cbnewsm.cb.att.com's message of Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:11:41 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.151141.1523@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> kalin@cbnewsm.cb.att.com
(andrew.j.kalinowitsch) writes:

   Anybody out there besides me actually _prefer_ worn wheels to new (or
   newly-rotated) ones?  I let my first set wear quite a bit before rotating
   them; my first skate afterwards seemed _much_ more difficult, even 
   accounting for my "adjusting" to the new, non-worn wheels.  Seems I
   can't get nearly as much speed or power now, whereas I was really 
   getting comfortable/good with my "broken-in" wheels.  




While I use conventional (quad) skates, I like (not too) worn wheels
for my inside fronts. (These are the ones that wear anyway.) I find
that they give smoother transitions to spins. In fact, during the
disco skating era, there were wheels that were ball shaped.

C&S out of San Diego made such a wheel called Rollerballs.


Regards,
Albert Boulanger
aboulanger@bbn.com




Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: nigel@rs733.GSFC.NASA.Gov
Subject: Re: Anybody prefer blading on worn wheels?
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md, USA
	<ABOULANG.92Jul23134848@kariba.bbn.com>
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	<ABOULANG.92Jul30134411@kariba.bbn.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:47:53 GMT

In article <ABOULANG.92Jul30134411@kariba.bbn.com> aboulang@bbn.com (Albert Boulanger) writes:

   (For the type of skating I do.)

      I've also
      noticed that my inlines are quite a bit slower indoors than out...
      which probably means that for indoor work I want much harder wheels or
      something.

   Outdoor wheels are terrible rink wheels.

Makes sense...it may also explain why most inliners work harder
indoors than qaud skaters.  Most places have Lightning 608s if they
have inlines at all around here...the wheels don't look like stock 608
wheels (they are all black...the lightnings for rent at outdoor places
have the stock blue or green 608 wheels). I haven't a clue on the
hardness but they seemed soft compared to my TRS wheels and they use
the non-marking white brakes and soft plastic nuts...are the black
wheels some sort of special rink wheel?  I know that rink owners are
concerned with inline skates ripping up the floor...

   Different strokes for different folks,
   Albert Boulanger
   aboulanger@bbn.com

Nigel
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From: loosemore-sandra@CS.YALE.EDU (Sandra Loosemore)
Subject: Re: spins
Organization: staff hacker @ Yale Haskell project
	<ABOULANG.92Jul27124846@tiryns.bbn.com>
	<1992Jul27.190253.591@umbc3.umbc.edu>
	<ABOULANG.92Jul27183810@kariba.bbn.com>
	<jkaplenk.712338040@lucpul.it.luc.edu>
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:19:12 GMT

jkaplenk@lucpul.it.luc.edu (Joe Kaplenk) writes:

   In ice skating spins spotting has been discouraged by my coaches, who have
   had very good ballet training. I'm not sure the reason but I think it
   tends to make the spins uneven  and unstable.

I was also taught not to "spot" because it makes the spins appear
jerky.  What I was told was to defocus your eyes and not look at
anything during the spin, and then to immediately focus on a fixed
object when you *stop* spinning.  I've also found the defocusing
technique useful for helping to quell nausea in situations like roller
coaster rides or bumpy plane flights....

-Sandra
Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: brown@quorum.com (Robert E. Brown)
Subject: spins
Organization: Quorum Software Systems, Inc.
Date: 26 Jul 92 02:55:09 GMT

I haven't seen too many people spin on their toes -- most people I've seen
doing two foot spins place most of their weight on the heel of their right
foot and the toe of their left, if spinning counterclockwise.  Things 
really get exciting when quad skaters start spinning on just one foot --
tricks include heel spins and "broken ankle" spins, both very interesting to
watch when done well.
Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: naru@eng.umd.edu (Naruhisa Takashima)
Subject: Re: Criminal types on 'blades, WAS Re: Outragious Behavior
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 15:39:22 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Originator: naru@hurricane.eng.umd.edu


Wasn't ther a movie like this, staring the boy w/ the dog in Lost Boys?

Naru Takashima
Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: jcc@cco.caltech.edu (Julian C. Chen)
Subject: skating barefoot
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 08:09:17 GMT

Hello,

Here is a rather strange question:

I'm wondering whether there is anybody who prefers to skate barefoot, i.e.
not wearing socks while skating (either on the road or on the ice). Does
anybody have a preference one way or the other. I hear that it enables one
to feel the surface better, and I personally find it more comfortable skating
without socks.
Any comments or opinions?


Julian Chen
Caltech
From: aboulang@bbn.com (Albert Boulanger)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Good indoor roller skating in the DC area?
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:05:52 GMT
Reply-To: aboulanger@bbn.com
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: kariba.bbn.com


In my forays of rinks in the DC area, I have not found a really good
rink -- ideally for an area like Washington DC there would be a rink(s)
that has adult sessions with a "dance club" feel. Does any exist in the
DC/Baltimore area?


Regards,
Albert Boulanger
aboulanger@bbn.com
Xref: sparky rec.skate:2384 ba.general:3202
From: bigdave@texas.tdd.sj.nec.com (David Sweeney  x2987)
Newsgroups: rec.skate,ba.general
Subject: Re: Skating locations in the SF Bay Area?
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:48:33 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: NEC-AM TDD, San Jose, California

In article <28397@goofy.Apple.COM> bryguy@apple.com (bRYgUY K. Carter) writes:
>
>Try the Los Gatos Creek Trail from Vassona Park all the way into
>San Jose.

If you're feeling adventurous, take the trail south past the Los Gatos Creek 
Park and check out the industrial area parking lots on the right side of
the path - smoother than the trail and lots of interesting terrain!

Dave Sweeney      bigdave@tdd.sj.nec.com
From: lrs@ucrmath.ucr.edu (larry schuler)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: What rollerblades would you buy?
Date: 28 Jul 92 04:23:09 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside


Well I've been a passive reader to this group for a while now (mostly
because I'm a beginning blader), but I think it's time for new skates
and I'm not sure which skates would be best.  So I'm asking for advice
and any other tips anyone cares to give. I'm presently using a 
pair of UltraWheel skates. These were bought in 1990, and I think they 
are called Ultrawheel XL or something. They're not the best, but they've 
been good for learning (and they were cheap). I use the skates mostly
for cross-training and general fitness, although I would like to be able
to do some stunts once I get good enough (and brave enough...) Also some
street hockey is not out of the question. The skates I've been looking
at are:

  Rollerblade Aeroblade (nice big wheels; which I guess would help on
	the not-so-smooth roads)

  Rollerblade TRS (one piece frame is probably more sturdy than 2-piece,
	this would hold up better over the long run; esp. if I start jumping^)

  Roce's equivalents to above (maybe cheaper for the same quality)

  Bauer (not sure which model, but I guess either a Z/X-7/5)

Advice? Comments? You can mail me, and I will summarize. 
It may be useful to put together a list of who uses what skates and for 
what type of skating, any problems, maint req. etc... If I get a large
enough response, I will do this.

Thanx,

-Larry
-- 
-Larry Schuler                                   UNIX Systems Group
lrs@ucr.edu                              University of California, Riverside
Organization: Comp & Comm - Computer Operations, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:37:34 -0400 
From: "Jim Thomas Park , Jr." <jp45+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Anybody prefer blading on worn wheels?
	<ABOULANG.92Jul23134848@kariba.bbn.com>

  > Anybody out there besides me actually _prefer_ worn wheels to new (or
 >  newly-rotated) ones?  I let my first set wear quite a bit before rotating
>   them; my first skate afterwards seemed _much_ more difficult, even 
>   accounting for my "adjusting" to the new, non-worn wheels.  Seems I
>   can't get nearly as much speed or power now, whereas I was really 
>   getting comfortable/good with my "broken-in" wheels.  

I use conventional skates and also like the feel of "broken-in" wheels.
Once I get me skates to the point where they are comfotable I HATE to
change anything.  I personally use a very hard wheel. I use the Ranalli
60 wheel. I also have Fafner bearings. I primarily skate on a wodden
indoor rink that measures 100 x 180. Total usable floor space for actual
skating is around 16,500-17,000 sq feet. It has been run by the same
family for 43 years.  With these wheel I can do power slides i.e. slide
sideways like ice hockey players. I had to have my wheels gound once
because I had a couple of flat spots. When I put my skates on I felt
like I was in mud. I had to work to keep moving. Well that is what it
felt like.  

At this rink there are people that do blade but they seem to be working
there asses off to keep going. Is this because of the wooden floor and
the softer wheels on blades or is there another reason? I would like to
know if it is possible. Thanks.

						-Jim

***************************************************************
 Hey Man, I'm  drinking wine, eating cheese and catching some rays.

				Oddball
	  			 From Kelly's Heros
***************************************************************
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: What rollerblades would you buy?
From: ndliles@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu
Date: 29 Jul 92 23:23:53 EDT
Organization: Miami University, Hamilton campus

In article <5713@ucru2.ucr.edu>, lrs@ucrmath.ucr.edu (larry schuler) writes:
> Well I've been a passive reader to this group for a while now (mostly
> because I'm a beginning blader), but I think it's time for new skates
> and I'm not sure which skates would be best.  So I'm asking for advice
> and any other tips anyone cares to give. I'm presently using a 
> pair of UltraWheel skates. These were bought in 1990, and I think they 
> are called Ultrawheel XL or something. They're not the best, but they've 
> been good for learning (and they were cheap). I use the skates mostly
> for cross-training and general fitness, although I would like to be able
> to do some stunts once I get good enough (and brave enough...) Also some
> street hockey is not out of the question. The skates I've been looking
> at are:
> 
>   Rollerblade Aeroblade (nice big wheels; which I guess would help on
> 	the not-so-smooth roads)
> 
>   Rollerblade TRS (one piece frame is probably more sturdy than 2-piece,
> 	this would hold up better over the long run; esp. if I start jumping^)
> 
>   Roce's equivalents to above (maybe cheaper for the same quality)
> 
>   Bauer (not sure which model, but I guess either a Z/X-7/5)
> 
> Advice? Comments? You can mail me, and I will summarize. 
> It may be useful to put together a list of who uses what skates and for 
> what type of skating, any problems, maint req. etc... If I get a large
> enough response, I will do this.
> 
> Thanx,
> 
> -Larry
> -- 
> -Larry Schuler                                   UNIX Systems Group
> lrs@ucr.edu                              University of California, Riverside
> 

Yo Larry,

	I have Aeroblades. Been skating in them for 3 months. Before that
I had Zetras for 4 years. I think Aeros are great but...... I have noticed
that when you put a strain on them on the side or whatever that you don't
get good support due to holes in the boots (for instance in a power slide
ect). They will bend. However for like skating longdistance or roller
hockey they are great. The bearings are very fast. You can easily sustain
15 miles per hour. I guess it depends on what you plan to do. I play roller
hockey and skate long distance. The only time I have problems with them is
when I have to slide.
					nd
From: shalese@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Shalese Huang)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:36:48 GMT
Subject: Re: Previous posting requested about Costco selling skates
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.skate

Info about Courtesy Sports for those peoepl who sent me emails:

Courtesy Sports
4856 El Camino Real,
Los Altos, CA 94022
415-968-7970
Orders 1-800-729-1771
FAX 415-968-4609

The guy who sold me Aeroblades for $265 is Roger Rintala. He just called
Northland(513-563-0008) and asked if they carry Aeroblades with my size,
also if they ship or not. Northland didn't have my size so he said he
would settle for $265 but no extra %5 difference refund. Usaually
Courtesy sells Aero for $299.

and NO, I don't work for Courtesy Sports, not even part time. :)

Shalese
From: aboulang@bbn.com (Albert Boulanger)
Newsgroups: rec.skate
Subject: Re: Anybody prefer blading on worn wheels?
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:03:13 GMT
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Reply-To: aboulanger@bbn.com
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: kariba.bbn.com
In-reply-to: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com's message of 29 Jul 92 06:54:46 GMT


In article <33757@cbmvax.commodore.com> grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins) writes:


   The other factor is that with a good in-line skater (should you be so
   lucky as to encounter one), once the novelty factor wears off, you
   simply cease to note that they are skating on in-lines!


Now, now George...
To be objective, I have to disagree. The inline style, no matter how
good, is different than quads. The major difference is that inlines
encourage a more "open" style of skating because of their turning
characteristics. "Open" is a term that means that the skater has the
body open during turns, etc as opposed to more "closed-in". The major
reason is the turning arcs are different in inlines. I remember some
discussion of mixed inline-quad roller hockey and the observation that
the inline players were able to do their thing and the quads their own
and it was hard to do one-on-one with an inline and a quad. They are
different equipment and encourage a different style of skating. Now I
will not pontificate on which style is better ;-).


Regrads,
Albert Boulanger
aboulanger@bbn.com
Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: gn@cc.gatech.edu (toM o. genesE)
Subject: Practicing Back Crossovers, Flips, and Squats
Reply-To: gn@cc.gatech.edu
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:06:21 GMT


Greetings:

  There's a subject line cornucopia for you, eh?  I've been working on
the above moves for a week or so, but I'm having some problems with
each.  Apologies for the long descriptions, but they're necessary.

  For backward crossovers, I try not to let one skate leave the
ground.  This skate (say the left) is on its inside edge, going into a
turn.  The problem is with the other skate.  I'll pick it up and place
it out to the right, and use its outside edge to push (hard) the skate
back behind the left so that both are in-line and turning.  When I
want to do this again, I pick up the right skate and loose balance
when I try to bring it over the left.  Are there techniques that could
help maintain balance here, or other ideas to improve back crossovers?

  Next, on forward to backward flips (say turning to left), I tend to
let the front wheel of the left skate touch when brought back.  This
sends me into a short spin which I break out of to start moving
backwards.  For my wheel's sake, I'd like to step on all the wheels,
but again, a balance problem.  Any suggestions?  Also, I usually have
to start turning to the left, if I want to do a left-to-right,
forward-to-backward flip.  Any ideas for keeping a straight course?

  Lastly, about squats -- the most frustrating move I've been trying
to get down.  First q'tion: when doing this, should the heels be
nearly touching, or apart from one another (knees at 90 deg. or so)?
Second: when I bring a leg back to place the skate, is it better to
lean on the inside (going into turn) or outside edge of the other
skate?  Third: general plea for any other advice on this ;-)

  Thanx!

toM o. genesE                         Bont             --      I feel 
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Inet: gn@cc.gatech.edu                Mogema      (      )     must hit
Home: gn@philios.atl.ga.us            Bones     ---=-----=-    the pavement
UUCP: ...!rutgers!emory!philios!gn    Hyper    O  O  O  O  O   right NOW!
Newsgroups: rec.skate
From: dcchan@engin.umich.edu (David Chi Wei Chan)
Subject: Re: Rolleriad on WWoS
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 03:24:54 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <1992Jul23.030230.24472@iat.holonet.net> kimon@iat.holonet.net (Kimon Papahadjopulos) writes:
>
>The exposure for the sport was nice-- sort of.  But it's not as if they have to
>import celebrities to make it exciting, or come up with dorky new events
>so that it will "look good" for television.  And what they ended up doing was
>make it seem as if there isn't any real competition out there-- It's just
>a casual thing that us Hollywood guys put together for your enjoyment!
>
>All they had to do was take their film crew down to say, that IISA sponsored
>event in San Diego last month, or any number of great races that are going on
>across the country.  There was some great action in the San Diego race-- it
>sure would have been a lot better than the watered down porrige they ended up
>broadcasting.

Hey, I just saw ESPN cover some race with Eddy M. coming in third.  Sorry,
I just barely caught a glimpse while channel-blitzing.  Part of their Running
and Racing coverage.  One surprising thing they showed was the first and 
second place skaters pushing(!) each other at the dash for the finish.  Both
of them were disqualified (which must've made the guy behind them pretty
happy 8-).

BTW, note my new email address.

-Tony Chen
 adchen@grant.cs.uiowa.edu