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From: apurmal@us.oracle.com
Subject: Hyperactivity info sought
Organization: Oracle Corporation, USA
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 19:36:20 GMT
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     My son has been diagnosed as being hyperactive by a pediatric
neurologist.  I'd like more information on hyperactivity, so I have
the following questions.

1.  Is there a Hyperactivity FAQ for this newsgroup, and if so would
    someone who has it please contact me?

2.  If you've read books on hyperactivity would you please send me
    short reviews of the books you've read stating which you found
    to be best/worst usefull/useless?

3.  If your child has been diagnosed as hyperactive would you please
    send me mail about your situation, what steps you took to deal
    with the problem and what the results were?

     If you want more specifics before writing more, please send me
e-mail at the address below and I'll respond to you.

Thank you,

Tony Purmal
apurmal@us.oracle.com
From: kassover@rumsey.crd.ge.com (David Kassover)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Here a study, there a study....
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:04:14 GMT
Organization: nah, nah

In article <1992Dec19.203547.19679@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> arodgers@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Angus H Rodgers) writes:
>
>Here's a common sense, there's a common sense, 
>Everywhere a common sense, common sense. :-)

Common sense, common sense, everywhere
And all the boards did shrink
Common sense, common sense, everywhere
Nor does anyone stop to think.

	With apologies to S.T. Coleridge



-- 
David Kassover             "Proper technique helps protect you against
uupsi!khazad!kassover	          sharp weapons and dull judges."
kassover@aule-tek.com                   F. Collins
kassover@ra.crd.ge.com
From: dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Stop Grabbing Your Penis!
Date: 21 Dec 1992 22:06:32 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, oispeggy@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Peggy Brown) says:

>In article <1992Dec21.130545.9359@cbnews.cb.att.com>, ran@cbnews.cb.att.com (Robert A. Neinast) writes...
>> 
>> 
>>I tried asking him once *why* he was grabbing his penis, and he
>>said, "Because it makes it bigger".  Uh, well, yes, I suppose it does.
>> 
>>Does anybody out there have any suggestions on how to curb this
>>undesirable behavior (at least in public).
>
>
>A few thoughts:
>
>What is his motivation for doing this?  
>
>1.) Needs to pee.  (I've noticed other little boys grab it when
>    they have to pee.)  
>
>2.) It feels good.
>    2A.) Feels good and relieves stress.
>
>3.) He likes the attention.
>
>From what you describe it sounds to me like it started with 
>motive #1, but now is done because of #2 and #2A.  Doesn't sound 
>like #3 enters into this.
>
>For #1 all you can do is remind him to go potty.  For #2 you 
>could explain that its OK to grab it in private, in the 
>bathroom or his bedroom, but not in public.  Make a distinction 
>between private parts being handled in public = "no-no" but in 
>private = "ok."
>
>Since he now does it in stressful situations, it seems like this helps 
>him deal with stress.  Maybe introduce some other behaviors that 
>he might find reassurring and stress relieving.  Explain he can 
>do these new behaviors when nervous, but that private parts are 
>only touched in private.  Getting rid of excess energy when he's 
>stressed might help, so these behaviors could be:
>  1.) Swinging his arms at his sides a few times.
>  2.) Giving himself a hug.
>  3.) Turning side to side from the waist a few times.
>
     I always wiggle my toes when I'm speaking in public - that lets out some
stressful steam.  Swinging at the waist is good, too, but there will be times
when he is out in public and can't be moving like that.
-- 
Doug Fowler: dxf12@po.CWRU.edu  : Me, age 4 & now: "Mommys and Daddys & other
    Ever wonder if, after Casey : relatives have to give lots of hugs & love
missed the 3rd strike in the poem: & support, 'cause Heaven is just a great
he ran to first and made it?     : big hug that lasts forever and ever!!!"
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: gdavis@griffin.uvm.edu (Gary Davis)
Subject: Re: A few facts about circumcision
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Distribution: default
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 14:17:57 GMT

In <1992Dec28.200538.14246@xymox.palo-alto.ca.us> philf@xymox.palo-alto.ca.us (Phil Fernandez) writes:

>In article <gdavis.725556094@griffin> gdavis@griffin.uvm.edu (Gary Davis) writes:
>>...
>>acceptance.. except if you're in Israel. They circumcised every Russian
>>immigrant.. many of whom where obviously not Jewish.

>Do you have a citation or some sort of concrete evidence for this
>assertion?  I don't believe it.

>pmf



PMF:
The documentation appeared in NEWSWEEK last spring. If you can access
a library that idexes the magazine by subject,you will find the article
complete with a ten year old Russian boy suspciously examing his newly
cut penis. (article spares us looking directly at his penis) :*)
    
--
            ******** Gary E. Davis***** WQ1F *****
 The most common of all follies is to believe passionately in the
 palpably not true. It is the chief occupation of mankind.-H.L.Mencken
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: alper@sushi.psych.nwu.edu (Theodore M. Alper)
Subject: Birth Announcement!
Originator: alper@sushi.psych.nwu.edu
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 03:41:33 GMT

 		Connie Stillinger (connie@sushi.psych.nwu.edu) 
		        and
		    Ted Alper     (alper@sushi.psych.nwu.edu) 
           proudly announce the birth of

               Morris Andrew Alper

          at 1:26 AM (CST), December 23, 1992.
His weight at birth was 6 pounds, 3 ounces, and his length (the
next day, when it occurred to us to measure him) was 20.25 inches.

Connie may post the birth story later (in brief, by the time we realized
those mild-to-her contractions were the real thing and we got to the
hospital, she was already 9 cm dilated! Morris came out within an hour.).
Then, too, we may have a circumcision story to post in a day or so...

-----------
Theodore M. Alper                          alper@sushi.psych.nwu.edu
The penguin's credo: If birds were meant to fly, God wouldn't have given
From: cathl@odin (Catherine Lyman)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: how to take baby out in snow without a car?
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:06:12 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <lipmevINN751@news.bbn.com> dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)  
writes:
> We're digging out from our first snowfall now and I've just run into a
> problem that I hadn't really anticipated.  How do I take the baby to
> daycare in the morning when it's snowy?  

I'd go for the sled. This was 30 years ago, of course, but my mother
hauled us around on sleds when we were babies. She only got the car on
weekends! Get a sled that has a "back" so the baby can sit up, and so you
can strap her in. Or, modify a plain old wooden sled. If you fall when
pulling a sled, you just hold on. You can tie the stap to your wrist so
nothing can happen. You can even put a little wooden brake on the sled
when you are going down the steepest of hills if you are really worried.

The vermont general store carries sleds with backs, just made for little
ones. Of course, I don't have their catalog here, but you can probably
call for 800 information.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren)
Subject: Re: Daycare & being sick
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:25:51 GMT

33s@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Angie Brvenik) writes:

>My son Zachary (19 months) is now attending a Daycare Center.  He loves
>it!  Hes learned so much in the 2 months that he has been there.  He
>was in an in home daycare before with only one other toddler.

>The problem Im having is that Zachary has been sick alot since he has
>started at this daycare.  It started with a cold and then a cough and
>then just a runny nose, then a cough and a runny nose (you get the picture).
>Hes been to the doctor several times in the last month, diagnosis: A
>Cold.  Hes been on amoxicilian (sp?) twice in the last 2 months.  It
>seems whenever the medicine runs out he gets sick again.

>The Daycare wont take him if he has a temp.  Last week they called me
>and said he had a temp. of 101.  I picked him up and took him home,
>he was fine.  No temp. and running around getting into everything!

>Is this going to keep happening until he builds up his emune (sp?) system.
>Im a single mom with next to no leave (Im still paying back my maternity
>leave).

Cory is 3.5, his younger brother Nicky is 1.5.  Cory has been in day
care (2 or 3 days a week) for a little over a year now.  Like some good
friends of ours who have a daughter in day care, Cory seems to get a
cold once or twice a month because there is ALWAYS at least one sick
child in daycare, so Cory keeps getting introduced to new strains of
a cold virus, and brings it home for the rest of us.  During holiday
breaks, and especially last summer (3 months), Cory did NOT get sick,
mainly because he just didn't come into contact that much with other
kids.  So, in answer to your question, IMHO, your son will continue to 
come in contact with different strains of different viruses as long as he
attends daycare and meets other children.

allen
From: CREECH@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Teresa Creech)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Maternity lv and day care
Date: 27 Dec 92 15:37:13 GMT
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering

In article <ddg-241292084132@dgregorio.mitre.org>
ddg@mitre.org (Donna D. Gregorio) writes:
 
>I am expecting my second child in May and am trying to decide what to do
>about continuing Day Care for my first 2.5 yr old daughter while on
>maternity leave (3 months).  I would like to take her out of Day Care and
>spend the time with her and the new baby.  I've been told by the Day Care
>center director and others that this may negatively affect her, since she's
>used to going to Day Care now 3 days a week.  Anyone have any
>advice/experience they'd like to share?  Thanks in advance.
>
>- Donna
 
Donna,
When my second daughter arrived, my oldest was 2.5.  I kept her in daycare
2 days a week for half a day.  I thought that she'd like to see her friends
and be with an adult who wasn't tired from being up all night.  Turns out
that she thought I was trying to get rid of her so I could play with the
baby :-(.  It would have been better if I had just kept her at home.
Teresa
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: jcopelan@nyx.cs.du.edu (The One and Only)
Subject: Re: A few facts about circumcision
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 93 23:55:06 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.172430.24047@newstand.syr.edu> kgatling@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Keith E Gatling) writes:
>In article <1992Dec31.145255.3618@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
>jcopelan@nyx.cs.du.edu (The One and Only) writes:
>
>   > With circumcision we are talking about a medically unnecessary
>   > procedure, that if done to an unconsenting adult would result in
>   > legal action against those involved.
>
>But seriously folks, it seems that the main issue here is that of whether or
>not circumcisions are medically unnecessary.  The antis claim that they
>are.  Many of the rest of us pro-choicers say that the jury's out on this,
>and that all the conflicting studies tell us that it's a 50/50 chance either
>way.  As a result, we're putting our money on circumcision.  I believe this
>is called a judgement call.

It is quite humorous how you turn the phrase "pro-choice" on it's head.  The
only application to the circumcision issue is to allow the boy to choose
whether or not to be circumcised.  It is his body, so it is should be his 
choice.

>And frankly, as much as I try to be rational and logical in decisions I
>make, I must admit that the strident tone of some of you antis almost makes
>me reach the point where I'd circumcise no matter what you said, just
>because you're beginning to bug the Hell out of me.  Get a life already and
>deal with a real problem...like maybe go to the store and buy some food for
>the food pantry...now that's a real problem...there are more people out
>there who are hungry than are complaining about the fact that their parents
>had them circumcised.

Come on, admit it.  What really bugs you is the fact that you can't come up 
with good reasons to continue the routine practice of surgically removing the
protective covering from the head of an unconsenting infant's penis.

Jim Copeland
--
Have you washed your brain today?
From: meltsner@crd.ge.com (Kenneth J. Meltsner)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: How Do You Celebrate Hannukah?
Date: 23 Dec 92 16:16:45 GMT
Reply-To: meltsner@crd.ge.com
Organization: GE Research and Development Center



It only took two nights for my son (22 MO) to associate Hannukah with
the piece of gelt we gave him after we lit the candles.  This morning,
he kept pointing at the menorah and saying, "Ha-ho" in hope of another
piece of candy.

Just like college students: do anything twice and it becomes a tradition.

===============================================================================
Ken Meltsner                        | meltsner@crd.ge.com (518) 387-6391
GE Research and Development Center  | Fax:  (518) 387-6474
P.O. Box 8, Room KWD270		    | Nothing I say should be attributed
Schenectady, NY 12301               | to my employer, and probably vice-versa
"It's probable, just not very likely." -- Fire Maidens From Outer Space.
From: srb@aretha.jax.org (Susan Dewey)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Toddler Genital Names (was: "Stop Grabbing Your Penis!")
Date: 30 Dec 92 16:44:20 GMT
Followup-To: misc.kids
Organization: The Jackson Laboratory

In article <9212292010.AA17689@crl.ucsd.edu>, dolson@crl.ucsd.edu (Mark
Dolson) wrote:
> 
> OK, here goes.... WHICH accurate terms?
> 

I like 'crotch' as it is a pretty gender neutral term and more or less
socially acceptable. Zack is already familliar with the concept that
a hand is made up of fingers, fingernails, palm, wrist and the fact that 
his crotch is made up of several parts (whose names he knows) is ok.
Besides, when he imitates me washing (I'm 9 mos pregnant), he's hitting
a lot more than just his penis with the facecloth.

Susan Dewey
srb@aretha.jax.org
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: rice@cray.com (Jonathan Rice)
Subject: Things They Say [2]
Summary: maybe she'll be a trademark lawyer some day...
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:51:35 CST


Daughter The Second was motoring about the house this weekend exclaiming,
to the world at large, "No Ho Ho!"

"Ellen," I asked after a few dozen repetitions, "Why do you say `NO Ho Ho'?"

"Because I'm *not* Santa Claus."

-- 
Jonathan C. Rice    | rice@zizania.cray.com |     Anna, 5; Ellen, 2
Cray Research Inc.  | (612) 683 - 5370      | "I'm a man who's rich in
655F Lone Oak Drive | Eagan MN USA 55121    |  daughters." -- G. Brown
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: lauraf@classy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom)
Subject: Re: Sign of the times
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:57:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.204703.17402@nynexst.com> clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu) writes:
>
>> Kathie Riggle writes:
>> Let's try an example.  What if you had written this instead?
>
>>  I think it's great that other parents trade off diapering, but not
>>  all parents choose to do that.  My husband doesn't change diapers.
>>  One, he works long hours and does the laundry, grocery shopping and
>>  drops our child off at his mother's every single day.  Two, I prefer
>>  to do the diaper changes.  So, even though it may be nice to trade
>>  off chores, there are other ways to work it.
>
>>See?  Now, who could flame you for that?  
>
>Okay, O' Superior Goddess of NetWisdom, I'll give it a try:

Clare:

This is what some people are objecting to. You just get really nasty when 
people post something you dont like. Granted, Kathie did get a bit angry with
you, and it showed, but she also gave you some good ways to phrase your 
questions without apprearing to be complaining. It isnt the complaints against
your family that we find so hard to take, but your anger at people who take
your posts at face value, and think "oh how awful, let me give this poor
woman some advice". Your responses to those people have been positivly
venomous, as was your response to my posting, and now to Kathie's. I wrote
that post to give you something to think about. Other people have posted
similar posts, and I have recieved several email followups from people who
feel the same way, but dont feel like posting it. I sure didnt want to start
a flame war, or give you another avenue to vent your excessive anger. So keep
posting as you have been doing, but go easy on the people who give you the
advice you ask for. Ask yourself why you are getting that sort of response.
Other people can ask for advice on dealing with spouses, babysitters, inlwas,
etc, without receiving such harsh advice. Maybe it is time to accept some of
the responsibility for the advice you get, and not flame well meaning people.
>
>Anyone who doesn't like my posts, feel free to add me to your kill-file...

Sigh, it doesnt work. I have tried it with other people. The problem is that
the sort of people that make it in kill files are the types that get flamed
alot, so you end up seeing it in the follow-ups, and then it is just confusing.

Laura Floom
Date: Saturday, 2 January 1993 20:09:00 MST
X-Mailer: TMail version 1.15R
From: "D. C. Sessions" <dcs@witsend.tnet.com>
Organization: Nobody but me -- really
Subject: Re: A few facts about circumcision
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Distribution: world

In <1993Jan1.224215.27475@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, jcopelan@nyx.cs.du.edu (The One and Only)  wrote:
# 
# In article <1941@frackit.UUCP> dave@frackit.UUCP (Dave Ratcliffe) writes:
# >[chop-chop] I can see an imaginary scene where some misplaced
# >law forces parents to wait until a child hits the age of, say, 13 to
# >decide if he wants 'the clip job' or not.  The kids answer would likely
# >be:
# >
# >"You wanna do WHAT? To my WHAT?!?!?!?!?!? No friggin' way!"
# >
# >Which would make all the anti-circumcision people exceedingly happy but
# >would not necessarily be The Right Thing [tm].
# 
# This is the best argument to stop the practice of infant circumcision (and 
# explains the main reason why it is done to infants).  How could any parent
# go ahead with the decision with the possibility that their son would feel
# this way when grown up?

  A datum: the circumcision rates in Judaism (at 8 days) and Islam
  (13 years) are virtually identical, as near 100% as doesn't
  matter.  Also note that Judaism is NOT growing in popularity,
  while Islam is the fastest-growing religion in the US.

-----

  Quote of the day: "IT WORKS!  Better than ever!" -- Julius Lester

--- D. C. Sessions                            Speaking for myself ---
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Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: lauraf@classy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom)
Subject: Re: Effacing (?)
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:09:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.202237.1292@tessi.com> allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren) writes:
>reid@metis.tti.com (Reid Kneeland) writes:
>
>>It's impossible to tell.  Engagement, effacement, and even dilation are
>>not accurate predictors of when labor will begin.  Some women walk
>>around effaced and dilated for days or even weeks before real labor
>>starts.  Others do all their effacement and dilation in three hours of
>>labor.  The best you can say is "sometime in the next month, probably".
>
>Be careful about what you speak of concerning effacement and dilation.
>You won't find many women walking around with 100% effacement who are
>NOT going to be going into labor within the next 24-48 hours.  A woman
>can be at a certain percentage of effacement AND be a couple of centimeters
>dilated at the same time, but if she is 100% effaced, there is an 
>excellent chance that she will kick into active labor within 24 hours,
>if not sooner, since all that is left at this point is to dilate to
>10 centimeters and push the little critter out.  Remember that "effacement"
>is a term used to denote the thinning out of the cervical wall.

I dont think Allen is right about this. My Doctor told me I was 100% effaced, 
and I said "Neat, does that mean I will have the baby soon", he said "Nope,
I think you will make your next appoinment (1 week later)". I did make it,
and that time I was still 100% effaced, and 3cm dialated. It was the
day before my due date. He said he still thought I would make it for my
next appointment. Not quite, I gave birth 5 days later. I was 100% effaced for
at least 12 days. My doctor didnt seem to think in meant much.

Laura Floom

>
>allen
From: jim@ (Jim Fare)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Difficult baby-revisited
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:08:04 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: NCR Canada Ltd., Waterloo, Ont.

In article <1992Dec17.222156.5548@cs.tulane.edu> js@cs.tulane.edu (Jan Silbermann) writes:
>
>   Today my world fell apart. Eliana was diagnosed as having "Infantile
>   Spasms." The prognosis is not good. She will probably be in a
...
>   Associated with the seizure disorder is something called "tuberous
>   sclerosis."
>   If anyone  knows anything, please tell me.
...
>   Please pray for Eliana.
>
>      Jan Silbermann js@cs.tulane.edu

Last night on TV on the Canadian version of CNN (CBC Newsworld) the tail-end
of a story about a kid with tuberous sclerosis.  The doctors performed some
type of brain surgury that caused a dramatic improvement in the kid's
behaviour and abilities.  Unfortunately, I don't remember any important details
about the Hospital, City, or Procedure name.   Let me know if you would like me
to look this up.

We are praying for both Eliana and you.
                                         [J.F.]
From: mcsnewton@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: **NEW MOMMY NEEDS HELP!!**
Date: 30 Dec 92 17:29:52 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University


Hello Everybody!!!!

My husband and I will be expecting our first child February 18, 1993 (at least
that's what the doctors say).  Anyway, my husband grew up with a little sister
and he helped take care of her, while I on the other hand, have never had any
brothers or sisters and know NOTHING about taking care of a baby!! 
Needless to say, I'm scared SILLY!!  We start our childbirth classes next
week,so I guess that's a plus.  

I was wondering, if there are any kind souls out there who could give a few
helpful hints on things like:

Breast-feeding (which I'm still mulling over) versus formula-feeding
A good time to go back to work (I just graduated and will be hearing about a
few offers very soon)
Choosing Day-Care centers 
Rooming-In versus being separated right after birth 
What to do when the baby kicks SOOOOO much, you think she's doing somersaults!!
And ANYTHING else you can think of!!!!

Believe me, I know NOTHING!!  

So...HELP!!!!!!

Thanks a Bunch!!
Tundrea Newton and Baby Newton 

P.S.--We've been told we're having a girl, but you NEVER know!!! :-)

Reply or Post (doesn't matter to me)
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