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From: 92636828s@csghsg5a.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domains
Subject: FAQ available????
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:56:27 GMT
Organization: University of St.Gallen, Switzerland

In article <1992Dec9.085743.826@nuscc.nus.sg>, ccewch@nuscc.nus.sg (Wong Chee Heng) writes:
> I am new to this group. Is there a FAQ available? Thank you.
> 
> --
> Wong Chee Heng
> Systems Programmer
> ccewch@nuscc.nus.sg.
I'm new too. Could you also send me an FAQ?

				Thanks
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From: watz@dk-vs.UUCP (Uwe Watzek)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domains
Subject: Help
Date: 17 Dec 92 13:33:26 GMT
Organization: Digital-Kienzle Computersyst.  7730 Villingen/Germany

Hi folks
I hope it's the right Newsgroup. If not, I'm sorry.

I'm looking for the internet-Address of the following host:
dutepp0.et.tudelft.nl
If you know something about it, please mail it to me.
Thanks in advance.
Uwe 

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From: ffritze@hpwad.WAD.HP.COM (Fromut Fritze)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 09:16:19 GMT
Subject: WfWG over SLIP/PPP ???
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Waldbronn, Germany
From: art@acc.com (Art Berggreen)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Routing IP over X25
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:33:48 GMT
Organization: ACC, Advanced Computer Communications

In article <1992Dec11.123440.17671@medusa.prime.com> davidh@CIS.Prime.COM (Dave Hill) writes:
>I am having a problem routing IP packets over an X25 WAN using Sunlink
>X25 version 7.0. The problem is as follows:-
>
>Using the dynamic interface (std0) in Sunlink X25, I can connect to
>hosts that have a different IP network number to my own interface, but I
>cannot use those hosts as routers.
>
>Example:- My IP is a class B address xx.xx.1.1, netmask 255.255.0.0 and
>I can create a path in the X25 configuration file for a host yy.yy.1.1
>i.e. another network.
>
>I can connect to that host OK, so the underlying net is sound. Now, I
>want to get to another host, say yy.yy.2.1 on a net for which yy.yy.1.1
>is a router. So I say:-
>
>route add net yy.yy.2.0 yy.yy.1.1 1
>
>to which route says "network is unreachable". This is because the kernel
>routing code states that the router must be on the SAME network as your
>interface. This is normally the case with Ethernet, but can be different
>with X25!

Sorry, but fairly fundamental to IP routing, is the assumption that for two
nodes to communicate directly, that they both have interfaces on a common IP
(sub)network.  The traditional way for routers to deal with media like X.25
that often support multiple logical IP (sub)networks is to configure multiple
IP addresses on those interfaces for the logical IP networks they need to
communicate over.  The introduction of SMDS and ATM technologies have brought
some of these issues back into focus are are being actively discussed (especially
in the IPLPDN working group of the IETF).

Art
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: proyse@peeras.demon.co.uk (Phil Royse)
Subject: TCP/IP and ISDN / experiences with ISDN ? 
Distribution: world
Organization: Peer Association
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:03:51 +0000

Does anybody have any inputs on the use of ISDN links within
routed (IP, IPX etc.) networks?

I am looking into this on behalf of a large organisation with some 
60 or so campus's with big LANs, but only a few routers & bridges so far.

Is it sensible to have a multiply connected network? (i.e. with bits
dependent on an ISDN link for connectivity to other bits)?

Can ISDN links be used for load balancing or to handle peak
traffic only (say).

Is it feasible for ISDN call set-up to be automatic (i.e triggered by
some sequence of events in the router?

Which end of the link should make the call?

Must the ISDN destination number be fixed?  or can the router be
intelligent enough to dial a different number for different
circumstances, or dependent on the destination IP address?

We recognise that most routers on the market cannot do any of this yet,
but is there any likelihood of them being able to?  is it feasible?

Any ideas would be welcome...



Phil Royse     Comms Consultant  | member:  The Peer Association
TUDOR HOUSE                      |         (OSI & GOSIP specialists)
12 Woodside Road, Purley           
Surrey  CR8 4LN   (UK)        Tel: (+44) 81 645-9868 
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: cslee@pds.nchu.edu.tw (Lee Chee Siong)
Subject: Wanted: SLIP script for Xyplex terminal server
Keywords: script, SLIP, Xyplex
Organization: NCHU Computer Center
Distribution: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 09:35:03 GMT

   Could someone tell me how to get a SLIP script for using in XYplex terminal
server? I know that there is a few in Cisco but what I need is for XYplex.
   Any suggestion is appreciate.

	

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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: erik@eab.retix.com (Erik Forsberg)
Subject: Re: TLI: t_accept returns TLOOK (why?)
Organization: Retix, Santa Monica CA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:02:26 GMT

In article <1gnhqsINN1d2@transfer.stratus.com> wendy@sw.stratus.com (Wendy McNaughton) writes:
>> In article <1992Dec2.215556.25482@bnrmtl.bnr.ca> kenneth@bnr.ca (Ken Rosenfeld) writes:
>> >I'm writing a server using the TLI library for TCP
>> >(on a Sun).
>> >
>> >The server executes the following in a loop:
>> >
>> >  t_listen(listenfd, ...)        /* receive connect indication */
>> >    
>> >  t_accept(listenfd, newfd, ...) /* accept the call */
>> >
>> >There is a case where this code does not work: Two clients
>> >make connect requests before the server executes the t_listen().
>> >The t_listen() then receives the first connect indication.
>> >The t_accept() fails, however, with t_errno = TLOOK.  
>> >A subsequent call to t_look() returns the T_LISTEN event.
>> >
>
>I ran into the same situation here with our SVR4-based UNIX (FTX).
>Our RPC implementation always assumes that if t_accept() fails
>with t_errno = TLOOK, it is as a result of a disconnect (and therefore
>calls t_rcvdis).  As Mat Cucuzella pointed out, this is consistent with
>the examples in Stevens' UNIX Network Programming book.  I also found
>similar examples in the AT&T SVR4 manuals.  
>
>The consensus here seemed to be that this is incorrect behaviour for
>t_accept.  It seems silly to interrupt one connection establishment
>just to process another.  Since we have access to the sources, we were 
>thinking of modifying our TLI library such that the t_accept call will 
>not be interrupted by another connection request.  This seems to work 
>well but was wondering if this is the proper thing to do. 
>

The MOST proper thing to do is changing TPI implementations to always
returning a qlen of 1 to the TLI library on the T_BIND_ACK response
message but internally queue up incoming connect indication upto
whatever limit you feel like (the original qlen may be a good number).

This avoids that not so cleverly written TLI applications still work
even if they get several connect indications at the same time and still
being able to handle this.

To simplify what I just said, the net effect is that the TPI Streams
driver itself queues many incoming connect indications, but they are
presented one at a time to the TLI user. That way the t_look() error
will never happen (unless it REALLY IS a disconnect indication).

All Retix TPI Streams driver operates that way.


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From: sjs@netcom.com (Stephen Schow)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Need remsh for Mac
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:48:26 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

There exists on our UNIX box a command called remsh that sends a remote shell
command to a remote machine via tcp/ip.  Anyone know of something that uses
MacTCP to do the same thing?  I would like to be able to select from a list
of scripts, or even just double click on an icon, which would send the 
remsh command to the host.

I suspect that nothing is out there to do this, which means I'm gonna have
to write it myself, but I have very little Mac programming g experience,
so I hope something is already out there.

Thanks in advance
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: jbvb@vax.ftp.com  (James B. VanBokkelen)
Subject: Re: TCP_URG, does it lower security?
Nntp-Software: PC/TCP NNTP
Keywords: TCP Urgent
Reply-To: jbvb@ftp.com
Organization: FTP Software, Inc., Wakefield, MA
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 14:48:03

In article <Byr4oo.I0K@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> dls@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (David L Stevens) writes:

       More seriously, even if it falls within the window, you aren't supposed
    to sit on it until you fill in any gaps of data that may appear before the
    urgent data.

Yes, you are, if you subscribe to RFC 793/1122 Urgent (in-band) instead
of 4bsd out-of-band.  You let the application know that Urgent data is
in the pipe, but you have to deliver the bytes in order, including the
ones immediately before and after the Urgent pointer (RFC 793/1122
doesn't specify a single byte as the Urgent one).

I have proof that it is possible to build a TCP API on which you can
do both Telnet Synch and encrypted Klogin (an example of the possible
awkwardness of OOB, since passing the terminal mode as an OOB byte by
nature means that it can't be encrypted along with all the rest of
the data).

James B. VanBokkelen		2 High St., North Andover, MA  01845
FTP Software Inc.		voice: (508) 685-4000  fax: (508) 794-4488

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: goldstein@carafe.enet.dec.com (Fred R. Goldstein)
Subject: Re: What is the meaning of LAT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp., Littleton MA USA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 03:14:45 GMT


In article <0096505C.AF7E4620@vms.csd.mu.edu>, 5247cuid@vms.csd.mu.edu writes...
>	What is the meaning of LAT and what is it used for and how is it
>implemented?

Perhaps you are referring to the DEC protocol "LAT", used in terminal 
servers, Pathworks, etc.?  It stands for Local Area Transport, a 
nonroutable protocol most often used to provide terminal services across 
Ethernet.  It's implemented in lots of DEC gear and is licensed to many 
others.
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From: mccalld@vax.sonoma.edu
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: 'ftppass'file format ?
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:09:49 GMT
Organization: Sonoma State University

Greetings:

     I've just configured my mac as a host and I'm using the generic
NCSA telnet software....I can't find the documentation which describes
the format for the 'ftppass' file.....any help would be appreciated
mccalld@sonoma.edu
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: GJAMES@HUSKY1.STMARYS.CA (GJames)
Subject: Re: Network Engineer Certification (HOW? WHERE?)
Organization: Saint Mary's University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:27:30 GMT

In article <2480018@hprnd.rose.hp.com> k@hprnd.rose.hp.com (Steve Kao) writes:

>Ramon J. Hontanon:
>> Not long ago, I came across the term "Certified Network Engineer" in a
>> computing magazine (can't remember which one). My job includes a lot
>> of local networking, and I'm becoming very interested in such topics,
>> so I thought I'd tap the collective knowledge of this forum.

>You need to take an exam from Novell to become a CNE.  This means taking
>classes provided by Novell or from a Certified Novell Instructor (CNI).
>This will probably cost you big bucks, but you'll get a complete set of
>Novell manuals from taking the classes.

>Novell networking has very little to do with TCP/IP.

>- Steve Kao


You dont have to take any classes if you dont want to. But you do have to 
pass the exams.
From what I hear, the exams questions are right out of the workbooks so 
those who do take the classes are at a real advantage.

On a side note... I took the novell service and support course. Worst, most 
basic, waste of time, course I ever took. While on that course I had a lab 
partner who was about to get her CNE. If her level of knowledge is any 
indication of the value in novell's training, a CNE diploma isnt worth crap.
Of course it will get you a job, but still it's still crap.

IMHO
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: gmarzot@mitre.org (G. S. Marzot)
Subject: setting TCP parameters
Followup-To: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Organization: MITRE Corp.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:44:23 GMT

Here is a question that I am sure has been asked before but no one I talk
to seems to know the answer. On a Sun Sparc 2 SunOS 4.1.X I would like to
set the default TCP window size to be as large as possible(32kbytes no ?).
Does anyone know a good source for this type of information.  I am working
on TCP over a satellite and I would also like to extend default time outs
to drop the TCP connection.  Does anyone know how to set this parameter as
well?  I assume it is in a header someplace and then I rebuild the kernel
but it would be nice to see the procedure written down before I start
flailing the system. Thanks in advance. -GSM
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Looking for integrated mail-ftp-telnet-client for dos
From: news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:09:48 GMT
Organization: School of Maths and Info Sciences, Massey University, NZ.

In article <bphillip.28.724622439@massey.ac.nz> news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System) writes:
>Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
>Path: cc-server4.massey.ac.nz!massey.ac.nz!bphillip
>From: news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System)
>Subject: Re: Looking for integrated mail-ftp-telnet-client for dos
>Message-ID: <bphillip.28.724622439@massey.ac.nz>
>Organization: School of Maths and Info Sciences, Massey University, NZ.
>References: <SUNG.92Dec16231239@novi.novi.auc.dk>
>Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:00:39 GMT

>In article <SUNG.92Dec16231239@novi.novi.auc.dk> sung@novi.auc.dk (Mads Sung Bak Jensen) writes:
>>Path: cc-server4.massey.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!waikato.ac.nz!decwrl!olivea!uunet!mcsun!sunic!dkuug!iesd.auc.dk!news.iesd.auc.dk!sung
>>Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
>>Subject: Looking for integrated mail-ftp-telnet-client for dos
>>Message-ID: <SUNG.92Dec16231239@novi.novi.auc.dk>
>>From: sung@novi.auc.dk (Mads Sung Bak Jensen)
>>Date: 17 Dec 92 07:12:39 GMT
>>Sender: news@iesd.auc.dk (UseNet News)
>>Distribution: comp
>>Organization: NOVI, Nordjyllands Videnpark A/S
>>Lines: 16



>>HI there.... 
>>The subject sais it all..

>>I am looking for what you think is the best PD mail-,ftp- and telnet
>>client for Dos.

>>If you have experiences with such an application, then please
>>email 
>>     sung@novi.auc.dk
>>and tell me where to get it.....

>>Thanks in advance...

>>/// Mads ///
>NUPOP - pop mail client for the PC! It also does Gopher, Finger, Webster and 
>name-lookup! The author has just added the ftp and telnet features to 
>version 1.1 (alpha), so they are still a bit rough, but its a great mail 
>reader and the next test version of it will be here RSN (real son now).

I wish my News reader would pick a diferent key combo to post with!!:)
You can get NUPop from ftp.acns.nwu.edu ( NorthWestern University)

Brenden
B.C.Phillips@massey.ac.nz
Computer Consultant
School of Maths and Info Sciences
Massey University
Palmerston North
New Zealand
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: amon@masi.ibp.fr (Amon Ettien)
Subject: measurement tool in public domain
Reply-To: amon@masi.ibp.fr (Amon Ettien)
Organization: Universite Paris VI/Paris VII
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 11:53:09 GMT

I am looking for Measurement tools in the public domain. I am trying to
evaluate the performance of network software at the user level.

SOS for help

regards
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: jpsb@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov (Jim Shirreffs)
Subject: SLIP Cookbook or FAQ neded
Organization: JJ Software
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:49:24 GMT

Hi Is there ANY documentation around that would help me 
with setting up SLIP for my home Unix system? I've got
a 486 running SVR4 Unix.

Thanks in advance

Jim Shirreffs


Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: bologna@ttd.teradyne.com (Joe Bologna)
Subject: How do I find the PID of a process using a specific socket under SunOS?
Organization: Teradyne Inc., Telecommunications Division
Distribution: il
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 12:13:43 GMT

Does anyone know how to find the PID of a process using a socket?

For instance, if I use telnet to login from machine "aragorn" to machine
"gandalf", I can find the local TCP port the telnet process is using by
netstat. The following output is obtained.

% netstat
Active Internet connections
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q  Local Address          Foreign Address        (state)
tcp        0      0  aragorn.1047           gandalf.telnet	ESTABLISHED

How do I find the PID of the telnet process on the local machine?

I am running SunOS 4.1.X.

Joe Bologna
Teradyne Inc., Telecommunications Division
Deerfield, IL
bologna@ttd.teradyne.com
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: gong@jazz.concert.net (Fengmin Gong)
Subject: Two papers (error control and flow control) available for ftp
Organization: MCNC Center for Communications -- CONCERT Network
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:12:35 GMT

Hello everyone,

Two papers based on my D.Sc. work at Washington U. are now available
for anonymous ftp from "ftp.concert.net".  The compressed PS files
are /pub/error_ctl.ps.Z and /pub/flow_ctl.ps.Z.  The papers present
design, simple analysis, and simulation of a new error control and a flow
control scheme for supporting demanding applications in high-speed
environments.  The work has been done under the supervision of Guru
Parulkar.  Two abstracts are attached below.  Comments are all welcome
and should be addressed to "gong@concert.net".

Thanks,

Fengmin Gong
MCNC Communications Research

------------------
TITLE:
     An Application-Oriented Error Control Scheme For High Speed Networks

ABSTRACT:
Many new network applications demand interprocess communication (IPC)
services that are not supported by existing transport protocol mechanisms.
Large bandwidth-delay products of high-speed networks also render
the existing error control mechanisms inefficient. This paper
presents the design, evaluation, and 
implementation of an application-oriented error control scheme that can
support efficient IPC for these applications in high-speed network
environments.


TITLE:
    A Two-Level Flow Control Scheme For High Speed Networks

ABSTRACT:
Many new network applications demand interprocess communication (IPC)
services with guaranteed bandwidth, delay, and loss. Existing transport
protocol mechanisms have not been designed with these service objectives.
Large bandwidth-delay products of high-speed networks also render
the existing flow control mechanisms inefficient. This paper
presents the design, evaluation, and 
implementation of a two-level flow control scheme that can
support efficient IPC for these applications in high-speed network
environments.
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: sung@novi.auc.dk (Mads Sung Bak Jensen)
Subject: Looking for integrated mail-ftp-telnet-client for dos
Organization: NOVI, Nordjyllands Videnpark A/S
Distribution: comp
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:12:39



HI there.... 
The subject sais it all..

I am looking for what you think is the best PD mail-,ftp- and telnet
client for Dos.

If you have experiences with such an application, then please
email 
     sung@novi.auc.dk
and tell me where to get it.....

Thanks in advance...

/// Mads ///

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: tkevans@fallst (Tim Evans)
Subject: Re: PCS WITH DUPLICATE TCP ADDRESSES
Reply-To: tkevans@eplrx7.es.dupont.com
Organization: Tim Evans
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 13:54:54 GMT

wayne@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes:

>I am using CMU TCP on a VAX running VMS. I am telneting to this vax from 
>PC's using Kermit 3.11 ( which has built-in telnet ).

>Many times pc users copy the kermit file from their pc around to other 
>machines. One of the files they copy is mskermit.ini that has the tcp 
>address of the person's pc. When that file is copied, the receiving machine 
>also gets the tcp address of the copying machine. And on it goes. Sometimes 
>a whole lab of pc's gets the same tcp address. The network dies a slow 
>death.

>My question is " Is there a way to prevent a pc from accessing the network 
>if there is already a pc on the network at that moment with the same tcp 
>address as the one attempting access ?

If kermit supports use of 'bootp' (I don't know if it does), you can
use it to control IP addresses from a central server.  This works on
a real network.  You can get UNIX bootp from CMU.
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From: trier@slc6.ins.cwru.edu (Stephen C. Trier)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Port Allocation.
Date: 15 Dec 1992 15:53:39 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc6.ins.cwru.edu

In article <avalon.724431555@coombs> avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed) writes:
>When allocating ports for program use, it is commonly recognized that
>under 1024 is priveledged as per the latest numbers RFC.

Check RFC 1122 on "privileged" ports: No ports are "privileged", except by
convention of some OS's.  This convention can NOT be assumed to exist outside
of that particular OS.  The only difference about ports under 1024 is that
they are used for well-known ports and therefore, non-RFC protocols should
probably not use ports in that range.  (BTW, when 1122 was written, there
were only 256 well-known ports.  The argument still applies, though.)

All the specs say now are that ports under 1024 are to be used for well-known
ports.  Ports above 1024 are technically a free-for-all, though individual
operating systems may choose to allocate them in whatever arbitrary way they
like.  BSD does so, in an admittedly arbitrary way.

The NCSA telnet allocations you saw were fine.  The telnet I use here starts
with local port 65534 and works its way down to 1024, then wraps around to
65534 again.  The wrap around could be at 1 were it not for some design
compromises (read: bugs) in the way it handles multiple connections on the
same local port.

-- 
Stephen Trier                      "We want to offer you a price that you
Network software type               just can't afford to take advantage of."
Case Western Reserve University         - Sales blurb from HSC Software
trier@ins.cwru.edu
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