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From: pavan@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu (A.Pavan)
Subject: "SEASONS" - Dance Show (in Minneapolis)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Distribution: mn
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:50:52 GMT



		Nritya Jyoti Dance Inc.
		~~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~ 
			presents


		   " S E A S O N S "
		   * * * * * * * * *

		 The seasons of India
		  interpreted through
	       classical and folk dances

		       Performers :

	Rita Mitra Mustaphi and students (Kathak)
	Rani and Aparna Ramaswamy (Bharata Natyam)
	Sohini Ray (from New York, Manipuri)
	Gujarati Group (Gujarati Folk Dances)
	Ethnic Dance Theater of MN (Folk Dances)

	Mala Ganguly (from LA, Vocal)
	David Whetstone (Sitar)
	Prabhas Moghe (Sitar)
	Allalaghatta Pavan (Tabla)
	Suresh (from Cincinatti, Mridangam)

When  : Saturday, Jan. 16, 1993 (2:00 p.m and 7:30 p.m)
Where : St. Paul Student Center, 2017 Buford Ave., St. Paul, MN, 55108
Tickets : General Admission $ 9.00
	  Advance (before Jan 15), Students, Seniors and Members of Minnesota
	  Dance Alliance and India Club of India - $ 7.00
Info  : Nritya Jyoti Dance Inc.
	(612)894-8795
	(612)537-8291
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From: abbasa@ul.ie
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: <None>
Date: 1 Jan 93 22:54:20 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland

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From: merchant@davidsys.com (Rukhsana Merchant)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: The language on SCP
Date: 7 Jan 93 09:21:30 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: DAVID Systems Inc, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1id3t6INNs05@shelley.u.washington.edu>, shamshoo@shelley.u.washington.edu (Shams Hasan) writes:
> In article <1993Jan5.092748.30708@davidsys.com> merchant@davidsys.com (Rukhsana Merchant) writes:
>>
>>	In regards to the language on SCP:
>>
>>
>>	Of late there are many crosspostings on SCI and SCP, which should
>>stimulate more variety in viewpoints.  However, the news of late on 
>>SCP has degraded to foul language and derogatory remarks.  Maybe, this
>>is just a lone viewpoint, but in the past, the reason I have stayed
>>away from SCI has been specifically just for this reason.  The mainstay
>>of SCI (besides H1 visa information) is that of inflamatory remarks.
>>At least with the swear words in the titles, one can avoid that particular
>>posting, but it has gotten to the point that one is confronted with
>>it even in posting that are following a specific trend which would
>>not infer that kind of language.  I always found SCP to have better
>>articles and better mannerism that are appropriate to mixed company.
>>I guess, what I am trying to request, is that the language which one
>>wouldn't use in front of mixed company and other people one would
>>give respect to, could be avoided.
>>
>>Sincerely, 
>>Rukhsana Merchant
> 
> 
> Dear Rukhsana Merchant,

I am not your *dear* anything (Thanks to Allah!!), so please do not refer
to me as such in the future!!

Contrary to popular belief, this is *not* a men's club and women are seen
and heard everywhere.  But your post in the past make me wonder if there
is any awareness of the reality of this, besides your narrow point of view
of what is good for Pakistan.

And, by all means, perpetuate what you think is acceptable behaviour
in a public forum.  That childish kind of behaviour only reflects on the poster. 

If you feel that these kind of post show an accurate portrayal of what the
bueaty of our culture has to offer to outsiders, I would be ashamed to feel
that this is all it has to offer.

> 
> Shams Hasan.


Ms. Merchant
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: arkay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Abdur Khan)
Subject: Re: Elite..... My Foot!
Keywords: Hang loose on the Caboose !
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 03:31:55 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.175605.1577@newton.ccs.tuns.ca> jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Nadeem Jamali) writes:
>In article <1il69oINNosn@shelley.u.washington.edu> shamshoo@shelley.u.washington.edu (Shams Hasan) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan8.155423.11614@newton.ccs.tuns.ca> jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Nadeem Jamali) writes:
>
>.... (previous postings deleted)
>
>>>


>initially became rich, before trying to answer this question I'll question
>its pertinence. Do we challenge people's right to be rich? We aren't communists
>are we?

	" Behind every rich man there is alarge crime"

We may not be communist, but then are we captilist ????????
to be rich in pakistan, while millions of people are below poverty levels,
is not a crime it is a heinous crime.
Islam is a socialist religion, which preaches people to be charitable
and humane.

 Similarly Sir Shahnawaz Bhutto was a rich person himself. These people
>had palacious houses before Z.A. Bhutto ever joined politics. Au contraire,
>people like Ghulam Mustafa Jatoi were no body before taking public office.
>I know this family a little bit more than others do. Ghulam Mustafa used to
>stand outside tapedars' offices with boxes of mangoes. Look at the progress
>they've made :)
>

They do have good mangoes .....

>What happenned to Karachi's parks? well, go ask the Jamaat-e-Islami. They
>were controlling KMC weren't they?
>
>>

ofcourse we cant blame only jam sadiq for karachi's parks, i am sure 
a number of muhajirs had there share as well.

sahibzada rafay khan
From: hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Elite..... My Foot!
Date: 10 Jan 1993 13:13:54 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: pageboy.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1993Jan9.013743.28823@leland.Stanford.EDU> arkay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Abdur Khan) writes:
>>
>>fact remains that Jam Sadiq's father Jam Kambhu Khan was the richest man in
>>Sindh. Jam Sadiq never needed any money of any kind... and I'm sure his
>>son doesn't either.

>The question we poor people ask ourselves is , how did they become
>so rich.

They became rich, because the supposedly aware and 
enlightened students chose to have a heck-of-a-time  at the boating basin,
while their brethern in the slums and rural areas went on being expolited
by the filthy rich.

The supposedly educated class chose to remain selfish at the expense
of the uneducated and disenfranchised people.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh
From: vagarwal@dis9002.shearson.com (Virendra Agarwal)
Subject: Re: NY Times Letter to Editor 12/31/92 About 1947, Ayodhya, etc.
Reply-To: vagarwal@tardis.shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers
	<1ij4erINN31m@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:32:11 GMT

In article <1ij4erINN31m@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu> jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali) writes:

   Xref: shearson.com soc.culture.pakistan:30918 soc.culture.indian:104760 soc.culture.bangladesh:9396
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   From: jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali)
   Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh
   Date: 8 Jan 93 05:46:03 GMT
   References: <1993Jan5.170554.14592@panix.com> <1993Jan5.202317.27377@tandem.com>
   Organization: California State University, Chico
   Lines: 14
   NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

   In article <1993Jan5.202317.27377@tandem.com> rajesh@Tandem.com (Rajesh Srivastava) writes:
   >
   >	Who is responsible for creating a party called BJP? Thanks for support
   >	from Pakistan 



   :)


>   There must be some flaw in India that Pakistan is not responsible
>   for, but I cannot think of any :(

 >  j n a
----------------------
	Pakistanis want to have the CAKE and EAT IT TOO !! They want a separate 
	country where they can oppress all non-Muslims and want to preach for
	justice for Muslim minorities in India. Muslims in India are better than
	Hindu in Pakistan. India had Muslim President. Did Pakistan have a non-Muslim
	President or any High Official in the Govt. ?
--
---------------------------------------------------------------
Virendra Agarwal
vagarwal@shearson.com
212-464-2151
Lehman Brothers
388 Greenwich st.(9th Flr.)
NewYork, NY 10013
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Xref: sparky soc.culture.pakistan:19162 soc.culture.indian:42840
From: budaraju@luther.che.wisc.edu (Srinivas Budaraju)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Educational Backwardness of Indian Muslims (was Re: Wall Street Journal article by ImranAnwar)
Date: 4 Jan 93 23:29:59 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison

In article <1993Jan4.174704.21882@oakhill.sps.mot.com> fmbutt@engage.sps.mot.com (Farooq M. Butt) writes:

>Well, even if that were so, assuming that there is no genetic weakness
>that is manifest in the muslim population, we should see around 12% of
>all IIT students and faculty be muslim right ? I believe the figure is
>not even a quarter of that.  India has this interesting habit of
>assigning token minority members to various "high posts" in an attempt
>to make the myth of secularism seem real.  Almost every argument about

The causes listed for the educational backwardness of Muslim's in India
are poverty, impact of partition, minority complex, discrimination,
indifference to education, infatuation with conservatism, illiteracy
of mothers, and Muslims' hesitation to send their children to government
schools. The latter, according to Shahabuddin, is because of the emphasis
on Hindu culture in schools, whereas Sherwani says it is because Muslim
parents tend to ignore the education of their children. 

A survey on the backwardness of U.P. Muslims conducted by Indian
Express in 1983 found that the impact of partition and the attitude of
Muslims toward white-collar jobs to be the main causes.

The drop-out rate of Muslim students is quite high even in
Muslim-managed schools and colleges where there is no discrimination
against Muslims. Shah's study lists the following reasons for this:
lack of seriousness on the part of parents, financial difficulties,
use of children as earning members, bad company, no teaching in the
school, and punishment in school/home.

For more details, read "Muslims in India: Attitudes, Adjustments, and
Reactions" by Qamar Hasan, Northern Book Centre, New Delhi, 1988.

>The signal that Ayodhya sends is that it's perfectly OK to persecute 
>those "darn invading muslims."  Destroy their historic mosques and you'll 
>get a ceremonial tap on the hand and a wink followed by the construction of 
>a temple.  GOI's hypocrisy on the Ayodyha issue has been simply incredible.
>India has a huge standing army, knowing how much radical hindus love and 
>respect the muslim minority, it is beyond comprehension that the GOI would not 
>have mobilized a giant, pre-emptive security force just in case.  The 
>excuses of a mob having gone crazy unexpectedly make me shake my head.  
>If Indian police do not know anything about a mob of 100000 religious radicals 
>assembling in a random town where there is a big religious problem, then 
>India must not only be in trouble but close to anarchy.


-Srinivas				budaraju@cae.wisc.edu
From: hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Elite..... My Foot!
Date: 8 Jan 1993 16:40:47 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: pageboy.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1ij2nvINNpeq@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> khan@ces.cwru.edu (Mansoor Khan) writes:
>	Since when police got the right to stop people from moving within
>	a city. Police bosses are the most corrupt people. How come they
>	are telling their jaahil police waalaas to stop people going
>	to Defence, Laalokhet, or Paposh Nagar. 

The "police" were given this right by the bureaucracy and the elitist
goverments of the past that have always tried to rule through a 
police state rather than by law and constitution.

Elites who made "police" so powerful:

1: Successor governments after Liaquat ALi Khan, who refused to
   solve the myster of LAK's murder
2: Iskander Mirza, who dissolved the assembly.
3: Justic Munir of Supreme Court, who ratified the illegal dissolution
3: Ayub Khan, who countermanded  the constitution of 1956
4: Yahya Khan, who ordered a military action against BD
5  Bhutto who refused to accept his electoral defeat in the hands of Mujib
6: Zia who lied to the people about 90 days or 90 months
7: Aslam Baig, who refused to investigate the killing of innocents with Zia
8: GI khan for dissolving BB's government

The above includes all those who had the 'power" to do any thing, but
did nothing for the people. THey thought that being elite they have
eternal protection from police.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose)
Subject: Re: The language on SCP
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:35:40 GMT

merchant@davidsys.com (Rukhsana Merchant) writes:

>Rukhsana, or Rukhsana Merchant, or Ms. Merchant is fine.  I do not
>need a *dear* attached to it.  However, this is a public forum and
>the point of view is addressed not to a particular person, but
>to the general person so therefore no address is needed, in my opinion.
>In other words, the person who is stating a viewpoint does not need
>to be specified specifically, because he is stating either his viewpoint
>or a viewpoint, so just address the viewpoint.  However, I leave it
>up to your disgression whatever method you choose to apply.  

>But for me, I would ask that *I* not be addressed as *Dear*.
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> Shams Hasan.

>Ms. Merchant


	HI HI SHAMS HASAN ,

		CHHEE-CHHEE ! KUCH SHARAM KAR LE !
		( Be ashamed of yourself )

		YOU PERVERTED PAKISTANI !

		NO WONDER PAKISTAN IS A BHANGI/CHAMAAR STATE .

					
					DEEPAK



Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: bala@ulysses.att.com (Bala Krishnamurthy)
Subject: Gen. Asif Nawaz dies of heart attack
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:38:53 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories


apnews reports:
  RAWALPINDI, Pakistan (AP) _ The army's chief of staff, Gen. Asif
Nawaz, who pledged to help democracy take root in a country long
dominiated by martial law, died today. He was 56.
           Nawaz was jogging near his family home in Rawalpindi, the
headquarters of Pakistan's military, when he suffered a massive
heart attack, according to army spokesman Col. Mohammed Iqbal. He
was taken to the nearby military hospital, where he died, Iqbal
said.
           Nawaz took over as Pakistan's top military chief on Aug. 16,
1991.
           He replaced Gen. Mirza Aslam Beg in what was only the second
peaceful transfer of power within Pakistan's military since the
country's creation as an Islamic republic in 1947. Previous
military chiefs had overthrown civilian governments.
           Shortly after being named to the post, Nawaz said the army had
no role in the country's politics other than to defend the civilian
government and the country. The army's image had been tarnished and
its officers corrupted during Pakistan's 25 years of martial law,
he said.
           President Ghulam Ishaq Khan will appoint a new army chief.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan)
Subject: Re: Kashmir
Reply-To: jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:55:23 GMT

In article <C0JnDz.3zI@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v122npej@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Sareer
A Fazili) writes:
> 
> Many thanks to the person who posted the news about Kashmir. I am always
trying
> to combat Indian propaganda on the net concerning Kashmir, and I am sure that
> this posting will come in handy.
> 
> 
> 
> Sareer A. Fazili


If I remember right it was an Indian who posted the article first.

--Javed.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh)
Subject: PAK BITES THE DUST (CRICKET)
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 05:51:27 GMT



Hay Hay 

Papistan bites the dust.

In B&H triangular tournament:

Papistan 71 (All Out) 

WI won by 9 wickets.

It seems Papistan love to make low scores in Australia.

In World Cup they were all out for 74 against England but rain saved them.

Bye
Adil
From: rajesh@juniper (Rajesh Raman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Moslems@
Date: 5 Jan 1993 05:51:44 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: juniper.wpi.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

shariq@charlie.usd.edu wrote:

: >1. Mumtaz's husband is a Hindu
: >2. Amir Khan's wife is a Hindu
: >3. Sonam has a Hindu hasband
: 
: >4. Sunil Dutt married a Muslim.
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
:     Manoj I think Nargis was a Zorastrian(Parsee).

  NahiN yaar. Nargis was a Muslim.

--

Rajesh Raman

--
From: ucacbrk@ucl.ac.uk (Brijesh Kumar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Gen. Asif Nawaz dies of heart attack
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:17:39 GMT
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium

bala@ulysses.att.com (Bala Krishnamurthy) writes:


>apnews reports:
>  RAWALPINDI, Pakistan (AP) _ The army's chief of staff, Gen. Asif
>           He replaced Gen. Mirza Aslam Beg in what was only the second
>peaceful transfer of power within Pakistan's military since the
>country's creation as an Islamic republic in 1947. Previous
>military chiefs had overthrown civilian governments.


This is wrong - I read other day a letter from a pakistani
gentleman saying that pakistan was a peaceful democratic country,
and it was India which was not democratic at all!.

Seems like APNEWS is anti-islamic owned by jews :-)

kabir
From: nkhan@austin.ibm.com (Nadeem Khan)
Subject: Re: Passport Renewal
Originator: nkhan@roma10.austin.ibm.com
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:58:54 GMT
Organization: IBM Austin


> 
> the guy posting earlier might be talking about getting a *new* 
> passport as opposed to *renewing* a passport.  One can renew 
> in five years but one has to get a brand new one every ten.  I 
> think the process of getting a brand new one is probably a 
> little more traumatic than a simple renewal BUT I may be wrong.
> 
> Any folks who know the "real story" ?
> 
> 
> fmb

The current government policy is to issue a new passport every 5 years,
instead of 10 years. I had mine renewed recently and received a new 
passport, with the old one stapled to it. 

BTW, I just scanned my files and found some pertinent info that was 
current in July, and may still be valid in case someone needs it:

Items needed for passport renewal:
1. Completed application form (form available from Consulate; xerox copies
                               are acceptable and can be found at some
                               Pakistani businesses around the country)
2. Old passport
3. 3 photographs
4. Copy (or original) of 'shanakhti' card (can be substituted, read form instr.)
5. Self-addressed stamped envelope
6. $23 

Address: 12E 65th street, NY NY 10021
Phone:   (212)879-5800


Nadeem.
Nadeem
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: ahussain@prism.poly.edu (Arshad Hussain)
Subject: Re: JESUS HAS DIED - (I -- IV)
Organization: Polytechnic University, New York
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 22:59:25 GMT

From: ijaz@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Tahir Ijaz)
Subject:  JESUS HAS DIED - (I -- IV)

Excellent articles on the Subject.

     Jesus[born over 570 years before the birth of the Holy Prophet Muhammad
     (pbuh)] prayed to Allah that he would like to come in the Holy Prophet's 
     Ummah because of his love for the Holy Prophet(pbuh). So Allah raised him
     and he will come back at proper time among muslims. 

I heard this story from a friend in Pakistan. Roughly 8-9 years later, another 
Pakistani repeated the same story to me here in New York.

I just want to know whether this story is quite common among muslims who
believe that Jesus is alive and will come back. If its true, any SOURCE?

Arshad Hussain

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
P.S.
   I won't enter into debate regarding Jesus.  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Nadeem Jamali)
Subject: Re: Elite..... My Foot!
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 18:00:44 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Nova Scotia, Halifax, N.S.

In article <1993Jan9.013743.28823@leland.Stanford.EDU> arkay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Abdur Khan) writes:
>>
>>Not to suggest that Jam Sadiq Ali or his son Mashooq are not corrupt. The
>>fact remains that Jam Sadiq's father Jam Kambhu Khan was the richest man in
>>Sindh. Jam Sadiq never needed any money of any kind... and I'm sure his
>>son doesn't either.
>>
>>
>>Nadeem
>>
>
>The question we poor people ask ourselves is , how did they become
>so rich.
>Every pakistani feudal is the richest person in sindh, an error
>or just a large happy family.
>
>sahibzada rafay khan [ title no money ... sorry folks]

Please refer to this poor guy's reply to Shams Hasan. My intention was
simply to point out the fact that this particular family did not need
Government money to become rich like many others did.

Nadeem

-- 
Nadeem Jamali                                     jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca
						 
School of Computer Science			  
Technical University of Nova Scotia		  (902)420-7527  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Who Kicked the Ass First ?
Date: 6 Jan 93 02:14:49 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines


  In one of his postings the shitty shoodar (deb chatterje) writes,

	" O .... Pakis, remember we kicked your ass in 1971. "

I would like to inform him that it was We Pakistanis who kicked 
your ass in *14th  August 1947* by dividing india into two parts. 
The kicked was so powerful that it blocked the only hole in your
ass. Since then you have left with only one hole , at the top, from
where you eat food and from where you reject shit. 
Got that moron!!!
Xref: sparky soc.culture.pakistan:19281 soc.culture.indian:43179
From: imran@panix.com (Imran Anwar)
Subject: PakistaNews Special Report: Gen. Asif Nawaz Dead of Heart Attack
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:10:31 GMT
Organization: IMRAN: Information & Media Resources, Affiliations, Networks


The Associated Press reported this from Rawalpindi 


 Pakistan army's chief of staff, Gen. Asif Nawaz, who pledged to help
democracy take root in Pakistan long dominiated by martial law, died
today. He was 56.
   He was jogging near his family home in Rawalpindi, the headquarters of
Pakistan's military, when he suffered a massive heart attack, according to
army spokesman Col. Mohammed Iqbal. He was taken to the nearby military
hospital, where he died, Iqbal said.
   Nawaz took over as Pakistan's top military chief on Aug. 16, 1991.
   He replaced Gen. Mirza Aslam Beg in what was only the second peaceful
transfer of power within Pakistan's military since the country's creation
as an Islamic republic in 1947. Previous military chiefs had overthrown
civilian governments.
   Shortly after being named to the post, Nawaz said the army had no role
in the country's politics other than to defend the civilian government and
the country. The army's image had been tarnished and its officers
corrupted during Pakistan's 25 years of martial law, he said.
   President Ghulam Ishaq Khan will appoint a new army chief.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: arkay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Abdur Khan)
Subject: Re: Elite..... My Foot!
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 01:37:43 GMT

>
>Not to suggest that Jam Sadiq Ali or his son Mashooq are not corrupt. The
>fact remains that Jam Sadiq's father Jam Kambhu Khan was the richest man in
>Sindh. Jam Sadiq never needed any money of any kind... and I'm sure his
>son doesn't either.
>
>
>Nadeem
>

The question we poor people ask ourselves is , how did they become
so rich.
Every pakistani feudal is the richest person in sindh, an error
or just a large happy family.

sahibzada rafay khan [ title no money ... sorry folks]