From: Aric.Caley@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Avoid the Amiga 4000
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992
Date: 11 Oct 92  10:11:02

> Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
> From: u9155406@cs.uow.edu.au (Gerardo Bentancor)
> Message-ID: 1992Oct9.122231.980@cs.uow.edu.au
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
>
> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
>
> >   Over two and-a-half years ago, when the Amiga 3000 came out, many
> people
> >remember how much I flamed the system because of the few improvements it
> >offered in the overall characteristics that make the Amiga an Amiga.  But
> to
> >its credit, the A3000 did not head in reverse on any key
> >technologies, either.
>
> Point Number 1: You Flamed the A3000...
>
> >   The A4000 is a different story.  With the A4000, the only substantial
> >improvement is color.  And it becomes clearer every day at
> >just what the costs
> >have been to improve the color capabilities.  In the key area of display
>
> Point Number 2: You Flamed the A4000... (which I'm sure you have never
> laid
> your hands on yet!)
>
> >flicker-free.  Because of the Display Enhancer, the A3000 is usable with
> lots
> >of very high-quality monitors.  I know one person who found a bargain on
> a
> >19" workstation monitor which syncs down to 31Khz, offers a brilliantly
> sharp
> >picture with lots of colors (as many colors as any computer can put out),
> >and just plain works beautifully with the A3000.  With the Display
> Enhancer,
>
> So now you have decided that A3000 wasn't too bad after all...
>
> >   The A4000 is a totally different story.  At first, I was a little
> confused
>
> A Little Confused! My friend you are very confused about a lot of things..
>
> [ A lot of other crap deleted ]
>
> >   The point of all of this is that it has become clear to me lately just
> how
> >much the A4000 retrogrades in the important area of non-interlaced
> display
> >resolution.  The system is vastly inferior to the A3000 in this respect.
> So
> >I seriously recommend that anyone considering the purchase of an A4000
> not
> >purchase one, at least until a Display Enhancer becomes available for it.
>
> Yes Mr World Acclaimed Authority on All Aspects Amiga (WAAAAA)
>
> >Some people might want to simply abandon the A4000 altogether, purchase
> an
> >A3000 instead, and upgrade it with a third-party video card as soon as
> DIG
> >becomes available for the Amiga.  (The A4000 retrogrades
> >in more than just the
> >area of display resolution, though.  Due to its use of IDE instead of
> SCSI,
> >the A4000 retrogrades in the area of HD access and HD speed as well)
> >   BTW, so far the odd-numbered Amigas (A1000 and A3000) have turned out
> to
> >be the marginally good systems, and the even-numbered
> >Amigas (A2000 and A4000)
> >have turned out to be disappointing pieces of shit.  I hope this trend
> does
> >not continue.  But even if it does, at least it bodes well for the A5000.

**Sometime in the near to distant possible future**

> Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
> From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett)
> Message-ID: 1992Oct9.202700.1317@news.iastate.edu
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.everywhereicananoyamigapeople

>   Over <time period unknown> years ago, when the Amiga 4000 came out, many
>people remember how much I flamed the system because it headed in reverse in
>the overall characteristics that make the Amiga an Amiga.  But to its credit,
>the A4000 did not stand still on all the rest of its key technologies.

Point Number 1: You Flamed the A4000...

>   The A5000 is a different story.  With the A5000, the only substantial
>improvement is graphics.  And it becomes clearer every day at just what the
>costs have been to improve the graphics capabilities.  In the key area of

Point Number 2: You Flamed the A5000... (which I'm sure you have never laid
your hands on yet!)

>display flicker-free.  Because of the AGA chipset, the A4000 is able to
>run almost all software, and display 262144 colours on monitors.  I know
>one person who found a bargain on a nice multisync monitor which displays
>all of the A4000 modes.  The promotion feature really did work well.  And
>the IDE was faster than I thought it would be.  And the A4000 cost less
>than other computers.

So now you have decided that A4000 wasn't too bad after all...

>   The A4000 is a totally different story. At first, I was a little confused

A Little Confused! My friend you are very confused about a lot of things..

[ A lot of other crap deleted ]

>   The point of all of this is that it has become clear to me lately just how
>much the A5000 stands still in the important area of CPU speed, price, HD
>compatibility, etc.  The system is vastly inferior to the A4000 in this
>respect.  Its 40Mhz 68040 is only marginaly faster than the A4000, it costs
>$1000 more than the A4000, its 1280 x 1024 resolution is just too many
>pixels for the typical 13" monitor, and it only has 8 megs of chip ram. With
>four times as many pixels 8 megs isnt enough!  And the 2560 x 800 mode is
>interlaced!!  Give me a break!  And I dont need 24 bits per pixel, its as
>slow as 8 bits was on the A4000!  I seriously recommend that anyone
>considering the purchase of an A5000 not purchase one, at least until a
>Display Enhancer becomes available for it.

Yes Mr World Acclaimed Authority on All Aspects Amiga (WAAAAA)

>Some people might want to simply abandon the A5000 altogether, purchase an
>A4000 instead, and upgrade it with third-party products.  (The A5000 stands
>still and retrogrades in many ways, though.  Due to its use of SCSI instead
>of IDE, the A5000 costs more in the area of HD expansion as well)
>
>   BTW, so far the odd-numbered Amigas minus every 3rd odd number Amiga have
>turned out to be the marginaly good systems.  I hope this trend does not
>continue.  But even if it does, at least it bodes well for the A7000.
>
> -!-
> | Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
> -!------------------------------------------------
>              A5000: JUST SAY NO!!!


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