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From: patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: A racist rears her ugly little head
Date: 13 Dec 92 20:27:43 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Rice University

In article <Bz7qFs.AJr@world.std.com> rissa@world.std.com (Patricia O Tuama) writes:
>In article <1gg0d8INNl61@bigboote.WPI.EDU> liz@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (PostMistress General) writes:
>>Black Power is such bullshit.  We all know that if we ever had a march
>>for White Rights and White Power that we would all immediately be
>>labelled racist.  
>
>There's no "if" about it, hon. 
>
>>mean that we have to have affirmative action (quotas, which suck IMHO)
>>and all these other laws to make up for what our ancestors did?
>
>Actually, dear, these laws are in place to make up for what our par-
>ents and colleagues did and are still doing.

That still doesn't necessarily make them right.  Why should anyone be forced
to make restitution for the acts of their ancestors?  Some of us believe
that it works better if we try not to repeat those mistakes, and take
responsibility for *our* deeds, not our parents'.

>>were things that our *ancestors* did.  So, when does it end?  How long
>>do we have to pay for things that happened long ago?
>
>What is this long ago shit?  Racism is still going on this very min-
>ute and we will continue to pay for it until it has disappeared from
>our society -- which, given the presence of people like you -- is
>going to be a long time from now.

What a crock.  Racism is going on right now, possibly -- but reverse racism
is STILL racism, no matter what rationalization you cook up to justify it.
I don't know about you, but in my book, two wrongs don't make a right.  Your
self-righteous attitude will insure, more than anything else, that racism
will be with this society for years to come.

>I may have to revise my opinion of your articles, child.  You are
>starting to sound as idiotic as your pal Dallagata.

You don't have to worry -- you easily accomplished that yourself with this
bit of enlightenment.  You wanna end racism?  Fine.  Take responsibility for
your own benighted attitude, and quit trying to force everyone else to bend
to your will.  

--PLH, pluck the log outta yer own damn eye before getting your panties in a
wad over the splinter in mine, eh.

--
From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: "Black Power" (was Re: Perot In '96 (Was Re: Test the flame))
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:01:39 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article <1992Dec15.124932.1@acad.drake.edu> vsg001@acad.drake.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.020524.24513@tdb.uu.se>, t89par@tdb.uu.se (Par Svensson) writes:

>> Oh, yes, I'm sure "the evidence that the jury saw" put it beyond doubt
>> that the police officers were innocent. What does "the entire videotape"
>> consist of? King calling the officers "assholes" King beating up five
>> cops with a baseball bat? King being black? We all know that if Mr. Kind
>> had been white, he wouldn't have beaten up the way he was.

>Does the phrase INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY mean anything to you? Keep in mind
>several relevant facts here, ParFore. King *was the plantiff* in the case. The
>burden of proof was against him. By preponderence of the evidence-- nothing
>less. King did not take the stand. 

>King's attorney had every right in the world
>to decline *any* jurors that council may have thought biased. 

That is not strictly true.  There are limitations on how many jurors each
may throw out.  At least that is how I remember California law.  Anyone
have clearer facts on this?

>Some were
>dismissed, others kept, but as far as petitioning council was concerned, the
>jury was fair. If anyone could be blamed for the decision, it would be King's
>council. 

Now that's got some possibilities.

>They made seveal mistakes that could have been avoided, namely not
>calling King to the stand, perhaps they knew he would not last on a cross, who
>knows? 

I'm sure they did the right thing there.  Although video evidence is shaky
without verbal testimony.

>The video tape DID show King attacking the lone female officer who
>phoned in for help in the first place. 

Does that have any relevance to how he was treated after being disarmed and
after there were enough blues there to kill him with their hands?

>It's your sort of quick judgement
>without thought that contributes to racism, buddyboy. 
>Not to mention the index
>of stupidity on this net.

>--The Phantom
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From: krobinso@brickred.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Kenneth J Robinson)
Subject: Re: what *really* is fnal.gov
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:54:06 GMT

In article <1gi91aINNb01@conquest.ksu.ksu.edu> tilden@conquest.ksu.ksu.edu (Tilden-Master of Illogic) writes:
>
>In article <Bz7wzr.4nv@cs.psu.edu>, krobinso@orchid.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Kenneth J Robinson) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec12.023817.1@fnala.fnal.gov> dallagata@fnala.fnal.gov (Michele Dall'Agata) writes:
>>>Fuck the american government. Fuck, fuck, and then fuck!
>>>This fucking system does not work anymore, I answer, I spend time that I 
>>>could spend with fucking women, and then it does not post my answers anymore.
>>>Fuck the fucking hell, that's bullshit. I am loosing the 50% of the posts, 
>>>I have to rewrite them, I don't read alt.flame anymore. What the fucking 
>>>hell is happening here?!?!? Fuck! 
>>>(Just an example of how USA works)
>>
>>Posting from a government site and inserting the term "fuck" into the
>>seven sentences you posted is indeed a shining example of who works
>>for our government and why our government is slowly pulling America
>>down into the sewer system. 
>
>It's also the reason we elect dipshits like Ken to office, hoping they
>can fix it, but find they're full of shit, like Ken.

K e n does not understand your response, for you seem to be misinformed.
K e n has never ran for any political office, and K e n is not filled
with excrement, for that would be illogical and unhealthy. Excrement
must be deposited in its proper place.

>And now, the Ken Suggests part:
>
>>K e n suggests that you apologize for your
>>rude behavior to citizens of other nations (from past posts)
>
>Yeah, They're how we're going to make millions in the future.

K e n does not suggest such incompetence. K e n respects other
nations for who they are and what they strive for. Using other
nations for one's greediness is illogical and cruel.

>>and initiate
>>standard washing procedures for your largest facial orifice. 
>
>Wonder why Ken has an orifice fixation?  The World may never know.

One issues standard washing procedures for one's largest facial
orifice when that orifice spews forth naughty language.

>>Further misbehavior will result in effective actions from the Department of
>>Information.
>
>Which is headed by a misinformed twit named Ken.
>That's politics for ya.

K e n is not a politician. K e n is K e n. You should seek repairs
for your damaged cranial organ.

K e n   R o b i n s o n
From: Simon.N.McRae@dartmouth.edu (Simon N McRae)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Simon N. McRae | Nil
Date: 20 Dec 92 02:56:30 GMT
 <1992Dec17.234917.2460@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>  
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Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0b3@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <exuptr.507.0@exu.ericsson.se>
exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor) writes:

> I see that further conversation  is probably pointless.  You do not, nor 
> will you ever see my point.  Your next post will be to busy hurling or 
> hurtling things to deal with any real issue.  Issues, BTW, are not about 
> whether some person or nation is stupid.

Your right about further conversation being pointless, you
sanctimonious twat.  You want a real issue, eh?  Deal with this:

   In this year's presidential campaign Mr. Bush, the education
president, kept asking the American people "W h o  do you trust?"  And
in all the hours of news coverage and analysis, not once did anyone
blink at this phrase.  


By the way, don't think for one minute you can convince me bigotry and
national hatred are anathema to your true American soul.  I've read
some of your posts on this group.  

You cheesehead.


BTW:  dumbshit doesn't imply that there is smart shit, only that you
are dumb as shit.
From: andy@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Andy Hart)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Lame Texan Bait [Was Re: Another Texan dicksplash needs a friend.]
Date: 10 Dec 92 23:37:27 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1089@dsbc.icl.co.uk> kev@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Kevin Walsh) writes:
>In article <9HBFVB1w164w@eastern.COM> nikolov@eastern.COM (Slavtcho Nikolov) writes:
>>
>> Testing ...even though this group does not support testing...
>> Flame me..if you wish
>>
>This newsgroup doesn't support Texans.

You really ARE the most clueless dweeb on the planet, aren't you shithead?
A guy named "Slavtcho Nikolov" posts from CANADA and you post some typically
stupid reply entitled "Another Texan Dicksplash...".  

Which other Texan would that be, you incredibly dense ball of painfully
stupid shit?  Are you always going to remain completely and irredeemably
moronic in EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR ENDLESS AND MIND-NUMBING POSTS?

Are you under some kind of impression that it's "witty" to reply to every
single post with some sort of "Off the Walsh" disjointed reply that would 
make absolutely no sense at all, EVEN IF YOU WERE REMAINING IN CONTEXT??

You are totally hopeless.  There is not a single spark of intelligence
flickering there between your narrow set beady little eyes.  Even when you
get your stupid, pimply ASS kicked in EVERY SINGLE THREAD, YOU ARE TOO
GOD-DAMNED STUPID TO KNOW IT!!!!!!

In almost every post we are treated to another boring repetition of 

"Jumping Jesus on a Pogo-Stick", or "Jesus on a Jet-Ski", or "Jesus..."
ad nauseaum.  When you aren't posting that, you post:

"Get a life"  "Fuck off and Die"  etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc,
etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc,
etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc,
etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc,
etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc,
etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc,
etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc,
etc, etc, etc!!!!!!!

Would you PuhLEASE eat some drano, some rat-poison, ANY-FUCKING-THING-AT-ALL
that would cause you to take a BREAK from posting.

GOD DAMMIT!  YOU'RE LIKE A DAMN CHICKEN WITH IT'S HEAD CUT OFF!  YOU JUST
REFUSE TO DIE, DIE, DIE, DIE, DIE, DIE, DIE!

The only consolation is that the ENTIRE WORLD knows this fact to be
incontrovertibly TRUE:

 
	   KEVEN "WAILING" WALSH IS THE BIGGEST, SINGLE *LOSER*
	   IN THE HISTORY OF ENGLAND, EUROPE, AND THE ENTIRE 
	   FRICKING WORLD!

-- Andy
Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: jorngh@dhhalden.no (JORN GUNNAR HALONEN)
Subject: Re: JORN--Captin Caveman of alt.flame (was Re:PHANTOM BLOWS IT)
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:47:23 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.171350.1@acad.drake.edu> vsg001@acad.drake.edu writes:
>
>> Wrong, all PHANTOM THE CLUELESS MAGGOT postings were posted in ONE
>> DAY because you *try* to flame people without reasonable background
>> and facts behind you. Think before you vomit.
>
>Talk about garbled and misplaced modifiers. Who the hell are you talking to
>now? Re-read that and then enlighten us all...

I think I made myself clear, why don't you quote some more instead
of *making* the post unreadable ?!?!

>> From now on you're PHANTOM-BABY WHOSE MOTHER IS GOING TO BEAT UP JORN
>> BEACUSE HE MAKES FUN OF HER LITTLE SON.
> ^^^^^^^^
>Oh. Real good JORN. Impressive.

Too bad you have to hide your bad language skills with neanderthal
grunts. Bet you had a hard time finding *one* mis-spelled word.
Phantom-baby is proud when he can show big mama that JORN made a mistake.

>JORN LIKE PLAY FUNNY GAMES WITH HIS WITTLE PHANTOM BABY!! JORN LIKE PHANTOM
>MOTHER!!! JORN LIKEUM *ALL* MOMMY'S!!!

Of course, as long as they are 25-35 years old, slim, dumb and blond.

>JORN NO GRASP SARCASIM. JORN NO UNDERSTAND WHY PHANTOM NO REPLY TO JORN STUPID
>POSTINGS!! JORN GET *REAL* MAD SOON! JORN TAKEUM FRIENDS IN THE FAG CORPS AND
>POUND SILLY AMERICAN!!

You're right, you're the only person in alt.flame to PISS me off.
And yes, I wish my english was better so I could put it in words
what an airhead you are.

The kind of sarcasm you represent is the most childish around,
everyone can grunt four letter words. Even WITTY does better,
that ought to say something.

>> OH! Impressive ! Phantom, o'wizard of words. Can't say you show
>> much variety in your 'JORN NO LIKEUM' bullshit either.
>
>JORN NO LIKEUM 'JORN NO LIKEUM'!! JORN GET REAL MAD WHEN JORN SEE 'JORN NO
>LIKEUM'!!JORN NO UNDERSTAND WHERE PHANTOM GET AMERICAN WORDS!!  

American ? You didn't fucking invent the damn language, you're
a bunch of fucking parasites. Hmmm ... perhaps you're referring
to your grunts, yes that must be it.

>[1] I'm NOT your baby-- butt pirate.

I never said you were my baby, you're just *a* baby !!!

>[2] You have NO GRASP of sarcasim, or the English language.

You're repeating yourself, phantom-baby !!!

>[3] Go out with your fag corp, war buddies. Do you know why you beat the US??
>They were afraid to get behind you!!! As you said, you had a *great time* with
>them as your prisoners.

Yeah, we had them butt-fucking each other while we raped your female
officers.

>[4] You're from Norway. You're an ignorant ass. Therefore-- ah. I'll let you
>figure that one out.

No please, shed some light on this. Seems to me you have a real
problem with Norway. I love it, because then I know I annoy you with
my postings. (phantom-baby swears at his terminal)
From: patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: A little posting Decorum (was Re:BAD NEWS YOU PSSANTS)
Summary: So what have they done lately?
Date: 13 Dec 92 17:24:06 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Rice University

In article <1992Dec13.101131.1@acad.drake.edu> rjr004@acad.drake.edu writes:
>
>>>Or is it 1200 baud?
>> 
>> I got the impression he's calling one of those 300 Baud DDials in Des Moines...
>> :-)
>
>Hey hey pal.  Out of Drake every student (4000 some of us) use a 14.4k modem
>built into our digital phone network...

Okay -- students here can slow down to 38.4K if they want to, by dialing
into the terminal server.  If they're in the labs, though, they'll just have
to content themselves with the T3 connections.  :-)  (We *are* the hub for
Sesquinet and THEnet, after all.)

>Remember, Iowa State(25 minutes north of here--a suburb)pioneered all network
>and computer systems(through ventures w/MIT)that the world basically uses.

Yeah, I know -- Atanasov and Berry.  That was more than half a century ago,
though.  What have they done up there lately?  :-)

>> --PLH, been there, done that, got a Telebit
>> 
>
>"Is this heaven... or is it Iowa?"
> 
>---The Doctor

I'd say it had to be Iowa, because as far as I know, heaven isn't buried in
snow four months of the year...

--PLH, been there, done that, survived I-29 north of Council Bluffs



--
From: kev@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Kevin Walsh)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: tax dollars paying michele for drivel??
Date: 14 Dec 92 12:22:41 GMT
Organization: Cursor Software Limited, London, England

In article <1992Dec8.113753.1@fnala.fnal.gov> dallagata@fnala.fnal.gov (Michele Dall'Agata) writes:
> In article <1088@dsbc.icl.co.uk>, kev@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Kevin Walsh) writes:
> 
> > 50+ hours to sweep up ONE lab.  It must either be a very BIG lab or you
> > are a very lazy bastard.  You come here when you are bored.  Well I imagine
> > sweeping up and emptying bins could get a bit monotonous; maybe that
> > explains why you post so frequently and why your posts are
> > so long and booring.
> > 
> A research position is a position that gives a lot of freedom.
>
It probably is.  Do you get jealous of all those top scientists working
while you are sweeping the floor?

>
> I do not have a schedule, the lab is open 24 hours per day, I work on
> nights, and mornigs and afternoons, if I waste time dealing with you,
> I can anyway work later, up to 2 or 3 o clock on the mornig. Is it enough? 
>
What do you mean, is it enough?  It's more than enough time to clean
up the lab.  If you weren't so fat from eating all that pasta you
could probably move about a little faster.

>
> > Another thing, it's good you chose to go to America.  You would
> > probably have to learn some English if you wanted to live here.
> 
> To live there? To live inside a sewer?!? Are you crazy? 
>
I suppose not.  If it takes you 50+ hours to clean your toilets, we
don't want you over here cleaning our sewers - you'd take all year.

> 
> > Now get back to that polishing.  You shouldn't realy spend 50 hours
> > cleaning one desk you know; someone might notice.  Don't forget
> > your pasta break.
> 
> Ha, ha, ha. Hey, people but the british. Do you think that it was something 
> fun? I mean, is it english "humor" fun? It sounds boring to me, but, maybe, 
> we need to be educate like british morons to laugh for such a 'finesse'.
>
Good lord you're right.  This is geting a little booring isn't it.
Perhaps you should unsubscribe, then I wouldn't have anything to
flame you about.

>
> Fuck you man. You are boring. Today I am a little bit in hangover, so I do 
> not answer too much. But you really bored me.
> 
Been drinking from your toilets again.  You're probably hoping for that
new bog brush for Christmas aren't you.  remember to wash the shit
out of your hair before going home tonight - and clean your teeth.

Jesus, this is booring.

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From: rjr004@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Re: THE CLUELESS PHANTOM
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:43:13 GMT

In article <jorngh.180.724276782@dhhalden.no>, jorngh@dhhalden.no (JORN GUNNAR HALONEN) writes: 
> The US Marines which took part in this military operation were
> supposedly *special* forces who were trained for actions in
> this part of the world.
> 
> They couldn't hit a tank even if it run over them.

Dream on, Captain Caveman, even a cretin like you could just pick up some of
the U.S.'s high-tech weapontry and blow anything up...  get a clue.
 
>                                                  
> How many of them there must be, maybe you're one ? 


Or maybe you (and 5 of your closest friends) personally got the shit beat 
out of you by 1 U.S. soldier...
From: kev@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Kevin Walsh)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Greasy Yarmouth
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:56:52 GMT
Organization: Cursor Software Limited, London, England

In article <S2Q7s*LF0@prolix.apana.org.au> dac@prolix.apana.org.au (Andrew Clayton) writes:
> 
> GY was a nice seaside resort when I went there in 1964 or so. I
> remember almost falling off a donkey - it wasn't you, perchance?
> 
I take it that you have plenty of experience in fucking donkeys.
I think this is the correct place to use the word ASSHOLE (without
the "R" - bringing a clue to the clueless masses).

Do you always fall off or is that part of it.  Excuse me for asking
but donkeys aren't in my area of expertise.

>
> :-)
>
Yeah, right.

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From: pete@physchem.ox.ac.uk (Pete Biggs)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: in American defense...
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:33:56 GMT
Organization: Physical Chemistry Laboratory, South Parks Road, Oxford OX1 3QZ
Originator: pete@joule.pcl


In article <1992Dec14.135221.12984@bsu-ucs>, 01smpowell@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (prison or bust.) writes:
> 
> i'd just like to make it clear to the rest of the world that the Americans
> that you encounter on newsgroups such as this aren't a good population 
> sample.

Is it possible to have "good population sample" of Americans?
They are all a bunch of wierdos.  (I was really tempted to say fucking
wierdos, but there has been far too much fuck coming from Kevin recently.)

>         the rest of us Americans generally try to ignore the lot of them.
> but take my word for it, we do know how annoying they can be and how nice 
> it would be if they would finally stop inbreeding and try to educate
> themselves.

Educated Americans - not a hope.

>              however, this is about as likely as getting them to take off 
> their caps lock while typing their subject line. and remeber: they can't 
> gain any intellectual evolution with a gene pool that includes family members,
> so they really don't have a chance. perhaps with the new government here,
> America can be a world power that won't play this "my dick is bigger than 
> yours" game. we'll see.

America is America no matter which fucking government you've got.

Pete

ps Is there a limited CAPITAL budget in the US of A?

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From: kev@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Kevin Walsh)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: To plonk or not to plonk - no question.
Date: 16 Dec 92 11:16:10 GMT
Organization: Cursor Software Limited, London, England

In article <exuptr.401.0@exu.ericsson.se> exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor) writes:
> In article <1139@dsbc.icl.co.uk> kev@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Kevin Walsh) writes:
> >In article <yBy6s*jD0@prolix.apana.org.au> dac@prolix.apana.org.au (Andrew Clayton) writes:
> >>
> >> Nationality bashing is only one step up from spelling flames.
> >> Pull your dick out from the ergonomic chair wheels, and look at
> >> life from a different perspective, you petulant little shit.
> >> 
> >And who exactly, was it who threw the first punch?  As I recall,
> >your post was the first in a brand-spanking new thread.  I just
> >pointed out that nationality bashing had been done already.
> >
> >Looks like you are going to have to think of somthing new to
> >moan about.  Unless you get a hard-on seeing posts degrading
> >your island.
> >
> Look who's talking about islands.
>
What a cracking followup by the Volvo driver.  Looks like some one
gave you a clue for Christmas but forgot that the batteries were
not included.  You realy shouldn't have unwraped that clue until
Christmas day anyway.  I do understand how much you need it though.

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