HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: fenner@cmf.nrl.navy.mil (William C Fenner)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle File Server
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:10:58 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: NRL Connection Machine Facility, Washington, DC

Folks!  Chill!

Larry has a nice product, which he chooses to place certain restrictions on.
The registration fee of $17 is certainly reasonable, and although I don't
personally like the software all that much, it is a nice piece of work.

The other choices are also quality pieces of software.  All of them do their
jobs.  Each person must individually evaluate which program to use for
themselves, and must evaluate the licensing restrictions involved.

There is no point in flaming about this.  It's fine to point out that WFS
has a license that you don't agree with.  Fine.  If you don't agree with
the license, then don't use the software.  There is _no_ excuse to get
into a flame war over this.  If you want to get all hot and bothered, do
it somewhere else, like alt.flame .

If you want to reply to me about this, do it via E-Mail; "Waffle File Server"
is going into my kill file.

  Bill
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From: mwallis@clubzen.fidonet.org (Michael Wallis)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: A /dev/nul simulation in DOS Waffle.
Keywords: dos waffle 1.65 beta 9
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 17:47:32 PST
Organization: Club Zen BBS - Fidonet/Internet - +1 408 734 2289

frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton) writes:

> Next, make a usenet newsgroup called 'dev_nul' and add this line to
> the USENET file:
> 
> dev_nul  /junk

This will only work if you DON'T create a junk directory useful for 
monitoring what extra stuff comes through the feed). Posting to a 
newsgroup with /keep=0 or /keep=1 should work properly.

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"College isn't the place to go for ideas." - HELEN KELLER
From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: 1.65 folder problem....
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 13:13:52 BST
Distribution: world
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley) writes:
> kilgore@wuntvor.norman.ok.us (Stan Hall) writes:
> >     Did you think that Tom Dell was doing everyone a service
> >     by adding folders to the mail section? Well think again.
>
> I find the folders much nicer than the single mail file.  In .64
> I was saving mail into seperate files written to my user space
> anyway.  With .65 I'm able to easily reply to an inactive piece of
> mail (after finding it in the folder).

Folders are damn useful if you want to moderate a newsgroup.

Traffic for alt.atheism.moderated arrives in a folder called "atheism".  I
read it; any articles I reject, I mail a reply and move them to a folder
called "reject".  The others I just leave in the folder.

Then I cd to \user\mathew\mod, and run a batch file which takes the "atheism"
folder, splits it into articles, adds appropriate stuff to the headers, and
runs them through rnews.  All with AWK and 4DOS batch files.


mathew
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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle File Server
From: cvafyshb@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Date: 22 Jul 92 04:40:28 PST
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-User: cvafyshb

In article <2Fa9NB1w164w@buscard.fidonet.org>, murph@buscard.fidonet.org (Brian Murphy) writes:
> Say, ummmm, has anyone taken a look at the Waffle File Server by 
> Birdsong?  Doesn't that look a little too scary to be worth it?
...
...
> $147,800.00 smackeroos!  Lordy, would that ruin my day or WHAT?!?  :-)

Perhaps they have very little faith in their security and need some protection?
 
8-P
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Editors in Waffle
From: cvafyshb@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Date: 24 Jul 92 23:15:44 PST
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-User: cvafyshb

> Again, for everyone, if you have corrections, comments, additions, etc. to the
> the Waffle FAQ (especially unix-related ones, since it's primarily DOS
> stuff in there now), please kick it to me at my work address listed below.


Ok, here is a comment, how about seperating (Perhaps when there is more to
seperate) the DOS a UNIX versions of the FAQ?  WAF-DOS.FAQ, WAF-UNX.FAQ...  I'm
sure that a lot of DOS users don't want to wade thru the Unix things, and
perhaps the same for Unix people!  (Where'z'dat OS/2 version?  :) )

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From: mick@wanda.ob.open.de (Michael Reichelt)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Some Problems....
Date: 24 Jul 92 06:56:28 GMT
Organization: A Fish.

Hi,

fenner@jazz.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:

> >> Try this:
> >> Lock your FOSSIL at 38400 .  Then you can tell Waffle anything you like for
> >> speed: and locked: .  Make sure you initialize the modem to ATX6, so that it
> >> responds with the line speed instead of the DTE speed.
> >I tried it, but it does not work. I allways get the number -27... in
> >the CALLERS-File
> 
> You won't if you use ATX6, lock the FOSSIL and tell Waffle the port is locked.
> ATX6 returns connect messages like
> CONNECT 14400/ARQ
> which Waffle will get the baud rate from correctly.
> 
I did all that, I use ATX6, I locked the BNU to 38400 baud, I told waffle 
that the port is locked...
Here is a part from my static file :

device       : 1
speed        : 38400
locked       : 38400
driver       : FOSSIL
initialize   : AT S0=1 H0 X6 L1 N1 M0

> The Perl program is available from archive-server@hogbbs.scol.pa.us as
> ibm\bbs\pwpl165.zip .
> 
What is the perl program for ?

Michael.


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From: hho@aludra.usc.edu (** N.T.K.C.D. ***)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: NNTP server for DOS?
Date: 29 Jul 92 07:01:00 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <T8FNoB1w164w@mintir.new-orleans.la.us> elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) writes:
>I hooked together my bbs system with my development PC (WD ethernet cards in
>each), and I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to set up things so that I

I have Intel16 Ethernet cards on both of my machine at home. Now
all I need is an OS or the NNTP server :_)

Since my main machine has lots of diskspace, I want to make that available
to the BBS also...??

Please keep me up to date..

Thanks
H.
 
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From: larry@Birdsong.Suvl.CA.US (Lawrence T. Hardiman)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle File Server
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:13:09 GMT
Reply-To: "Lawrence T. Hardiman" <larry@Birdsong.Suvl.CA.US>
Organization: The Birdsong Company, PO Box 2031, Sunnyvale CA 94087-2031

rick@vsystem.wimsey.bc.ca (Rick Vandenberg) writes:

> larry@Birdsong.Suvl.CA.US (Lawrence T. Hardiman) writes:
> > ...
> > specifically V-Mail, I am working on mail-server features now. ...
> 
> Mail-server features?  Oh oh...  I guess I'll have to get cracking at
> finishing the next version :)
> 

Ain't the free market wonderful! Keep up the good work, Rick! :-)

Regards,
  larry.

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From: bobl@bobsbox.rent.com (Bob Lindabury - SysAdmin)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: beta10
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:23:03 GMT
Organization: Raven Enterprises -- Piscataway, NJ USA
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <mick02070920626153823@wanda.ob.open.de> mick@wanda.ob.open.de (Michael Reichelt) writes:
> Hi,
>
> aaron@spectrx.saigon.com (Aaron Anderer - System) writes:
>
> > I just got beta 10 and installed it.  Looks a lot like beta 9, I can't notice
> > any differences.  Tom what are the differences?
> >
> I got beta 10 too, and I found the following differences :
>
>   - Now 38400 baud connections work properly. In beta9 I allways got the
>     wrong baud rate (about -27xxx in the callers file).
>   - SYSMAN.EXE now lists users with ther access level, etc...
>
> Thats what I found out and what was important to me.
> So the change to beta 10 was good.
>
> There may be some more changes but I don't know them, lets wait if Tom
> says anything about it.
>
> Michael.

Another change is that you can pop COMMENT into the newuser questionaire
(/system/signup) with *COMMENT.  Also, you can run global stuff via the
_system login command line.

-- Bob

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: XQT2X : making life easy ?
From: mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us (mike batchelor)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 92 22:56:58 PDT
Distribution: world               
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

mvdl@et.tudelft.nl writes:

> Perpahs something like this already existed (if so, please let me know),..
> It's meant for DOS-systems running waffle with Fredgate. It makes .X and .D
> files of all .XQT and .DAT files in a given directory. This makes it possible

Great idea.  I have a 4DOS shell script that does the same thing using
sed and a DOS->UNIX line terminator convertor.  I use it to feed the
uuPCB PCBoard gateway, and to get outoing from uuPCB back into Waffle.

Be wary of what he says!  The directory names are important, because
UUXQT will grab anything off of /spool, whether you want it to or not.
:)  I put the incoming/outgoing uuPCB spool directory on a different
tree from Waffle's.



[] ---
[] Mike Batchelor -- mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us
[] Long Beach, California
[] I love DESQview/X
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Colors, broken?
From: cvafyshb@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:27:12 PST
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-User: cvafyshb

Is it me, or is the colors: definition line in Waffle 1.64 broken?

I cannot get any colors to work properly..  To get a reverse video status bar I
must set video: bios or video: ansi...  There must be something that I'm
overlooking!
From: fenner@cmf.nrl.navy.mil (William C Fenner)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Questions from a Greenie.
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:57:25 GMT
Organization: NRL Connection Machine Facility, Washington, DC

In article <g5mJoB1w164w@jwt.UUCP> bbs-morpheus@jwt.UUCP writes:
>1) Is it possible to put ANSI colour codes in prompts, etc?

Not at this time.  It's possible to do ANSI menus with an awful kludge
(sorry, but that's what it is :-) and I heard someone had written some
patches to allow optional ANSI sequences in %-interpolated sequences
(like prompts) but never saw them.

>3) What about full-screen editors?

FSED works well with Waffle (get FSEDWAFL.ZIP via FTP from any of the
Waffle FTP sites including halcyon.com:/pub/waffle, or via mail server,
send mail to archive-server@hogbbs.scol.pa.us with the body
SEND IBM/BBS/FSEDWAFL.ZIP UUE).

There is also a version of STEVIE (a "vi" clone) that has been modified
to work well with Waffle, get it as BBSTEVIE.ZIP from the same places.

>4) Is it possible to run doors

For Waffle 1.64, you can use my MakeDoor utility.  Get it as MKDOOR11.ZIP
(again, same places).  For 1.65, I patched the source to add a /dorinfo
flag to externs, but lost the patches.  They're reasonably trivial, though,
so I'll be redoing them soon.

>5) Are there off-line mail readers?

Yes; there's WafMail (WAFM10.ZIP), but it's awfully buggy.  WafMail 2.0
was an aborted attempt, and WafMail 3.0 is currently being written from
scratch by a new author.  He promises a beta by the end of the summer.

>6) If any of these programs or help with them are available via other 
>BBSs (say for downloading the programs), what is(are) the number(s)?  

You can call the Heart of Gold at +1 814 238-9633, v.32, v.32bis, or
get the files via email from the archive-server@hogbbs.scol.pa.us, or
via FTP from halcyon.com if you have FTP access.  hogbbs also allows
anonymous uucp; use the number above and the following chat script:

hogbbs Any COM1 Direct 19200 g "" AT OK ATDT18142389633 CONNECT "" in:--in:--in:--in: uuanon

(if the login fails, try adding more --in: pairs - my intro screen is awfully
long.)

To retrieve a file, do something like:
uucp hogbbs!~/ibm/bbs/wafm10.zip c:/tmp/wafm10.zip

  Bill
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From: mvdl@et.tudelft.nl
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Funny stuff in online-shell
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:53:33 +0200
Organization: TU-Delft, dpt of Electrical Engineering


When I shell to dos as an online user (system), instead of of spaces
(ascii-code 32 decimal) waffle returns (echo's to both the console-screen AND
the remote user) a 'r'.

When I would press space at the console, I get space (remote & local).
It seems like the value of the space is f*cked up during the send, how could
this happen ? 

Anyone expierence with this ?

Michel.

Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: rick@ssg.com (Rick Emerson)
Subject: Re: Waffle/Coherent?
Organization: System Support Group
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:09:17 GMT

elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) writes:

> rick@ssg.com (Rick Emerson) writes:
> 
> > Why not use Linux or 386BSD?  The price is right (free!) and both are large
> > model systems.  I prefer Linux but if you want or need TCP/IP, go with
> > 386BSD.
> >
> > Linux comes in several variants; I recommend either mcc-interim.0.96c or th
> > tamu variant of mcc (it includes X11R5 tuned for Linux).  Look on
> > TSX-11.mit.edu for mcc-interim and sc.tamu.edu for the version with XWS.
> >
> 
> TCP/IP would be attractive, since I have a mind to convert my novell file
> server to this purpose.  Is there a specific reason you went with Linux?  How
> does Waffle do on it?
> 

Whew!  I'm getting in over my head on this.  I know 386BSD 0.1 is supposed
to handle TCP/IP but Linux uses something like K9??? which allows support
for SLIP and some net functions.  There's certainly enough net and socket
stuff in Linux to do X windows which demand socket support.  

Rather than kill bandwidth here, drop me some email on this or start reading
comp.os.linux.

Rick


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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Some Problems....
From: fenner@jazz.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:40:01 EDT
Organization: NRL Connection Machine Facility, Washington, DC

In article <mick02022920621222730@wanda.ob.open.de> mick@wanda.ob.open.de (Michael Reichelt) writes:
>you, fenner@cmf.nrl.navy.mil (William C Fenner) write:
>
>> Try this:
>> Lock your FOSSIL at 38400 .  Then you can tell Waffle anything you like for
>> speed: and locked: .  Make sure you initialize the modem to ATX6, so that it
>> responds with the line speed instead of the DTE speed.
>> 
>I tried it, but it does not work. I allways get the number -27... in
>the CALLERS-File

You won't if you use ATX6, lock the FOSSIL and tell Waffle the port is locked.
ATX6 returns connect messages like
CONNECT 14400/ARQ
which Waffle will get the baud rate from correctly.

The Perl program is available from archive-server@hogbbs.scol.pa.us as
ibm\bbs\pwpl165.zip .

I am also uploading it to halcyon and simtel20.

  Bill
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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: by355@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael P. Otto)
Subject: Re: The Wall for Waffle
Reply-To: by355@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael P. Otto)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 05:11:23 GMT



>Did anyone get this to unzip properly?  When I uudecoded it and tried
>unzipping, I got
>
>  Exploding: notes.txt     Bad CRC 0804513c  (should be 592aa6cc)
>  Exploding: wall.com      Bad CRC 7ee2a255  (should be a564e54e)

Same here...

Michael


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From: brewich!donal@lobster.hou.tx.us (Donal)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: pcelm301 & Waffle
Date: 26 Jul 92 15:15:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: brewich.6wyioB4w165w
Organization: The Brewer's Witch BBS, HouTx, +1 713 272 7350

gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM (Gess Shankar) writes:

> I am assuming that there is a way that PCElm can be made to read the
> mail files created by Waffle in ..\usr\username directory as username.nnn
> were nnn is the sequence number.
> 
> I have not been able to figure out how to make PCElm read the mail files
> as mail in the mailbox. Is one supposed to cat all the mail files into
> one text file, as PCElm seems to be expecting all mail to be in one single
> file?

get e4w100.zip from halcyon.com
This is a group of batches and some .exe's that transform waffle mail to
PCElm mail and vice versa.


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From: vikki@precipice.chi.il.us (Victoria Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: FAX questions.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 08:34:39 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Welch Research, McHenry IL, USA

Having gotten 1.65 running in short order (so far very good!), I would
like to get the FAX stuff implemented.

From what I can gather the bundled software with the Zoom FAXmodem
(v32/32bis, v42/42bis TONS of v stuff) doesn't support being called by
an external program.  The stuff they bundled is called QL2FAX.

The docs that come with the Zoom are probably more than adequite for
the casual user, but leave a lot to be desired when you are looking
for specifics.  I probably should take an extended course in all this,
but, I am not really sure I want to write a FAX receive program.  If
I don't have to re-invent the wheel, I would *really* rather not ;-).

It appears the modem will return a "+FCON" response to a FAX connect,
I'll test this out today.  The big problem is software that will be
callable from Waffles run.bat.

If anyone has any ideas on this, it would be muchly appreciated!

TIA, Take care, Vikki.

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From: scott@ryptyde.cts.com (Scott McClure)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle/Coherent?
Date: 27 Jul 92 02:29:03 GMT
Organization: Ryptyde TimeSharing, San Diego, CA

rick@ssg.com (Rick Emerson) writes:

>elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) writes:


>Whew!  I'm getting in over my head on this.  I know 386BSD 0.1 is supposed
>to handle TCP/IP but Linux uses something like K9??? which allows support
>for SLIP and some net functions.  There's certainly enough net and socket
>stuff in Linux to do X windows which demand socket support.  

I don't know about Linux, but 386BSD is far from being a stable OS.  Few
people (if you follow comp.unix.bsd) actually have it running in a
stable form.  Last I heard, it still didn't support multi-user mode, and
was missing many basic utilities, such as grep and find.  Basically,
386BSD is a hacker's toy, not a stable OS for use with a BBS.

Now, when BSDI's BSD/386 (a commercial product) becomes available this year,
that may be a different story.  I plan to switch over when it is released
(SCO Xenix has worked okay, but the filesystem is sooooo slow).
I talked to Tom Dell about it, and he thinks that Waffle/UX will compile
on it as easily as it does on SunOS 4.1.1.

Just my $1.50.

8-)

Scott

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From: jim@jimmc.chi.il.us (Jim McNicholas)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Hello?
Date: 26 Jul 92 14:58:19 GMT
Organization: Prime Time Productions, Aurora Il.

jaf@jaflrn.UUCP (Jon Freivald) writes:

:=} Is this group still alive? -- No traffic here in a while...
:=} 
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:=} 		   Jon Freivald ( jaflrn!jaf@uunet.UU.NET )
:=} 	 Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn't have to do it.
:=} =============================================================================



where have you been we've had the color response as well as a v42 fest 
recently...BTW does anyone know if the colors: line in static is broken 
or is it just on my dos box that it doesn't work!!

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From: Jon Freivald <jaf@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: (DOS) how to remove deleted file entries -
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 02:27:10 EDT
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us (Mike Batchelor) writes:

> berk@techsys.uucp (Berk Walker) writes:
> 
> > environ: DOS5.0, 50 Mb news partition.
> > Does anyone know of a freeware/shareware pgm that will allow me to zero 
> > out erased filenames?  fdisk is not an option, as it would require a 
> > complete low-level format and manual entry of marginal sectors.
> > SST worked just fine, except it doesn't like the EXTENDED directory.
> > 
> > The disk access gets pretty slow, and as I get and pass a full news feed, 
> > thousands of files are created and killed daily.  boy is my disk getting 
> > slow.  :)  any help would be appreciated.

The following is an exerpt from my "distmail.bat".  Note specifically
the 3rd through 5th lines...  Also note that they come *AFTER* batch, so
anything I'm sending to junk to feed somebody else will still get sent
out...

uuxqt
batch
echo y | c:\command /c del f:\news\junk\*.*
rd f:\news\junk
md f:\news\junk
c:\waffle\bin\expire

Hope this helps...

Jon

P.S. - the "echo y | c:\command...." bit is because I use 4DOS and MS-DOS's
"del *.*" works a lot faster than 4DOS's.  (Just about the *ONLY* advantage
I've found to command.com!)

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