From: 9999sc01@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu (Alexandre Khalil)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: Are Lebanese considered ARABS (J. LAWEN a PALESTINIAN)
Date: 10 Jan 1993 23:23 CST
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In article <1iqpagINNnik@life.ai.mit.edu>, steel@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (JLE) writes...
>In article <1993Jan10.213438.10060@ac.dal.ca> bibr0027@ac.dal.ca writes:
>>In article <1iqac5INNfuh@life.ai.mit.edu>, steel@gnu.ai.mit.edu (JLE) writes:
>>> In article <1993Jan8.160737.10004@ac.dal.ca> bibr0027@ac.dal.ca writes:
>>>>I am a Lebanese ..
>>>>only....  What have the Arabs done for us, except force Palestians
>>>>unto our land ...
>>> 
>>> OUR LAND?  From the article you just posted on soc.culture.jewish,
>>> you show that YOU ARE A PALESTINIAN YOURSELF. Your family
>>> migrated form Occupied Palesitne a couple of generations ago to Lebanon.
>>> 
>>In the article in SCJ, I suggested that my family migrated from
>>Israel (or Palestine, what ever name you want to use),
> 
>>This is only a suggestion.  People did migrate and become part of the
>>population long ago.  AND NOT THE OCCUPIED PALESTINE...get your facts
>>straight.  
> 
>At least you migrated and had the chance , the Palestinians you appear
>to hate had to say in migration.  They were tortured and forced
>to flea their homes , not to OUR lebanon only but to syria
>and Jordan.
> 
>GET MY FACTS STRAIGHT?  SO YOU MIGRATED FROM ISRAEL NOT PALESTINE?
>I ASSUME YOU CAME FROM GERMANY, RIGHT?
> 
> 
>>Who is forcing them to live in refuge camps.  The PLO and the
> 
>Let me give you a little info you may not be familiar with.
>In May 1948 , the president of Lebanon, Bshara Alkhouri, gave
>Lebanese Citizenships to all Christian Palestinians on the spot.
>The ones that are in refugee camps and not there by choice.  The
>Lebanese Law does not grant them hardly any rights.   It is written
>in the Lebanese law that a Palestinian may not drive a pickup truck,
>nor he may work as an Engineer, nor he may own a house.
> 
>My neighbours are Palestinains, renting in Tripoli,  they wanted
>to buy a pick up truck to operate their business that is run
>in the refugee camps, they had to put the truck in some Lebanese woman's
>name in order to be able to make a living.
> 
> 
>>Arab Legue (and other wealthy Arab nations), have enough money
> 
>Screw the arab league.  What do they care about?  If the cared,
>they would not have left our Lebanon burn for 16 years.
> 
>>to house these Palestinians anywhere they please.  The PLO and the
>>Palestinians have other intentions. (ie...with Israel).
> 
>OF COURSE, with israel, they want their country back.  Israel is
>illegaly established on it, you know that.  Israel came from
>Germany, Yemen, Russia, ...etc.
> 
>I guess you John are happy, Israel displaced Palestine  after your
>family had left.  I wonder if you had to live in those refugee camps
>due to country theft what would be your stand!!
> 
> 
>>EXCUSE me....no one is more Lebanese than I am.  My family and I have invested
> 
>Well it is nice of you to be so caring about our country, but you
>shouldn't throw flames at people that live in Lebanon and born there,
>and love Lebanon as well.  When Israel invaded Lebanon, it was
>the Palestinians along with Hizbuallah and Almurabiton that gave 
>their souls to defend it.   I agree, PLO's leadership stink, but 
>they faught to survive and liberate their home land.
> 
>>"Hammdallah ghal al-salammeee"
>"Hammdallah al-salammeee"
> 
> 
>>Who the hell are you mr. jle to say that these people are more Lebanese
>>than I am.  You have the nerve....HA (What does your initials stand for?)
> 
>They stand for John Elghani.
> 
>>Most of them do not want to be Lebanese.  They are the Palestinians,
>>and want to be Palestinians, and NOT Lebanese.  It is not up to me
> 
>They love being Lebanese as well as Palestinians.  As long as
>they are struggling to Liberate Palestine, they are Lebanese, Syrians,
>Jordanians, they are our people and we cannot let DOGS eat their flesh.
> 
> 
>>to decide if we should except them to becoming Lebanese.  The Armin
>>population in Beirut were given citizenship.  It is up to the Lebanese
>>government to decide.  I might have been born in CANADA,
>>but my soul was born in LEBANON.  
> 
> 
>YES ONLY CHRISTIANS.   Let me inform you,  George Habash, a Palestinains
>Christian like yourself, is a PLO leader, he heads the PFLP.  He
>is a Lebanese and got lebanized like yourself.  He can run for
>the president of Lebanon, but 75% of the lebanese (muslims) cannot.
> 
>>same origins.....but presently I AM LEBANESE, and YES the Palestinians
>>are my far distint cousins, maybe.  Who knows, maybe my great,great,great
>>grandmother was of Irish orgin...what do you think?
> 
>I guess Yassir Arafat is not Palestinian like you, his great grand
>mother is Egyptian.
> 
>>My greatgrand father didn't spend hard-acking labour in the states, and
>>elsewhere to buy land in Lebanon, lots of land, to grow olive trees,
>>to grow wheat to feed his family
>>...for someone like you and others to take it away.
> 
>I am proud of your father, but does he hate his origin?
> 
>>Your opinion is greatly appreciated.  Facts don't hold though. 
> 
>You are a great person, but need to be a little sympethetic to people
>you only heard Kataeb propaganda against.   Be fair and talk to
>one of those people from the refugee camps.
> 
>>P.S.  What nationality are you of?  Just curious...I cannot presume anything
>>around here....
> 
>I am Lebanese, from Tripoli, and I don't hate Palestinians just
>the normal Lebanese that are not brain washed by Israelis.  :)
> 
>jle

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alex