HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: pas@jupitercmc.ca (Peter Stokes)
Subject: fun with skill
Reply-To: pas@jupiter.ic.cmc.ca
Organization: Canadian Microelectronics Corporation
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:57:43 GMT

Here's an interesting behavior of the Edge-to-4.2
skill translator from Cadence:

1.  original Edge code:

printMessage( "Processing nets...")
processNets( extractedView )


2.  skilltrans output:

if( errset( progn( printf( "Processing nets..." ) terpri())) t nil)
   processNets( extractedView )


Although [2] works, I wonder what the intention was?

entertained,
Peter

Peter A. Stokes ___________________________________ Voice: (613) 545-2923
Engineering Applications Support                      Fax: (613) 548-8104
Canadian Microelectronics Corporation        Email: pas@jupiter.ic.cmc.ca
Kingston, Ontario, Canada _______________________________________________





Peter A. Stokes ___________________________________ Voice: (613) 545-2923
Engineering Applications Support                      Fax: (613) 548-8104
Canadian Microelectronics Corporation        Email: pas@jupiter.ic.cmc.ca
Kingston, Ontario, Canada _______________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.cad.cadence
From: fontana@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (paolo fontana)
Subject: prova
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 12:55:05 GMT


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Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: thompsn@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Adam Thompson)
Subject: Re: HP-150 Help
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:57:09 GMT

In <8912@orbit.cts.com> chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Erik Funkenbusch) writes:

>I'm not sure, but this seems to be the only accessable group to me that it
>might fit in.  

Try:
 alt.folklore.computers
 comp.sys.hp

>Does anyone know anything about the Hewlet Packard 150?  A friend recently got
>one, but has no clue about it.

It was an early DOS box.  Among other things, it is *not* IBM compatible,
it has (most models) a thermal printer built in to the monitor casing, a
touch-screen, an HP-1B bus, an IEEE RS-428 port, an RS-232 port, and a
parallel port (same as on a PC).  It was available with :
 1 floppy drive (3.5", ~400k, DSSD)
 2 floppies (same)
 1 10Mb HD (early Seagate drive) + 1 floppy
 1 20Mb HD (early Winchester - *BIG*!) + 1 floppy
 
The HD units had the floppy drives built into the HD case.
The floppy-only units had a two-floppy-drive box.
You can daisy-chain up to (I think -- it's an HP-1B limit) 7 devices
(including the 150 itself) -- you could (I saw it done!) have 12 floppy
drives on one machine!

>What i'd like to know is this:
>What OS does it run?

MS-DOS v2.11 (OEM)
It had what amounted to the pre-pre-pre-pre-cursor of HP-NewWave.  They
provided a neat-looking shell/menu that it *booted* into.

>What Processor does it have?

8086/8088 (depends on model.  150A was 8086, 150 was 8088)

>Is there still support?

Yeah, riiiight... these are from the days of the DEC Rainbow.  HP will, if
you want, take it off your hands -- and promptly destroy it and throw it in
the trash... (*sigh*)

The development kit consisted of ASM86 + C from (?? from memory here) the
Mark Williams company.  HP refused to release BIOS source or documentation
- they used a console driver that acted like an HP2676(?) -- even in
graphics mode.  You did graphics by printing escape sequences... (*sigh*)
Pressing on the touchscreen would act as though you typed in an escape
sequence... 

Good luck!  
-Adam Thompson
 thompsn@ccu.umanitoba.ca

PS: much of the 'generic' software that was known to work on the DEC
Rainbow will work on this machine...
-- 
+----------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Adam Thompson        University of Manitoba        Computer Services |
| Adam_Thompson@umanitoba.ca                  OLC Project - Unix Group |
Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: tmjones@eos.ncsu.edu (@large(Are you Object-Oriented?))
Subject: Question
Originator: tmjones@c00538-106ps.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: tmjones@eos.ncsu.edu (@large(Are you Object-Oriented?))
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:44:39 GMT


I have a problem.  I need to figure up an algorithm to calculate large
factorials.  The largest factorial I'll need is 90!  I see how I can store
the numbers in arrays of bits, but I have no idea how to calculate it.
Can anyone help me. 
-- 
------------
Tommie Miles Jones                    North Carolina State University
                                      Computer Science
From: sbixby@cup.portal.com (Steven W Bixby)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Book Club comments?
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 16:28:25 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

Hi, gang... A question of sorts:

Does anyone have any experience with "Small Computer Book Club"?

It's a "Newbridge Book Club", which sounds like a company with different
book clubs to choose from.

Recently I received a flyer for membership, offering 3 C++ and programming
oriented books for $5, plus shipping.  Is this offer worth taking, if
I'm interested in the books in question?  They require 3 more selections
over two years to complete the 'contract'.  How much is shipping?  Will
I end up paying $5 for three books, plus $10 shipping each, or some
stupid thing like that?

Whaddya think?

Thanks in advance.... email preferred, post acceptable.

  -swb-  (Steve Bixby, sbixby@cup.portal.com)
From: rossi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Oliver Rosenkranz)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Re: Make MONEY!!!
Date: 28 Jan 1993 09:36:23 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: peseta.cs.tu-berlin.de
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

WARNING ! WARNING !
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Hey...don't invest $5 for this guy posting (anonymously) to this group
and offering you THE great deal.

There are several 'games' as this one on the run.
Besides it's the first one I saw here in a newsgroup, but this isn't the
problem, there is no difference between this one and the others.

All of these games work like this.

A guy sends a letter to a number of people. He has to find XX people playing
this game with him. Each of those people has to find XX people for themselfes.
Those have to found XX people to play this game, again............
Money goes to the first in the list.
If there are 8 stations to go to the to top of the list, there have to play
XX ^ 8 people this game. If you are last in the list, there have to play
another XX ^ 8 people before you see a buck.
ONLY the first people playing this game gain money from it...

So, beware...
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Data Acquisition Software recommendations
From: warren@bbs.ug.eds.com
Date: 25 Jan 93 07:39:16 GMT
Organization: KAMAN INSTRUMENTATION
Nntp-Posting-User: nolanl

Hi-

I am looking for recommendations for data acquisition software to be used with
a/d boards, with the eventual goal of the test data to be stored in and
manipulated by a database.  Database recommendations would also be appreciated!

E-mail if possible
Thanks,
Connie
Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: hamrick@convex.com (Ed Hamrick)
Subject: Need info - International Information System TRACE
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 09:32:13 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

A Russian customer of ours asked me to get some information
about "International Information System TRACE".  He was interested
in their Educational Policies and methods of cooperating with them.

It is possible that the message got garbled somewhat, but if anybody
has any clues that might help me find this information, I'd really
appreciate it.

Regards,
Ed Hamrick
Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.realtime
From: rms@miles.com (Rob Schultz)
Subject: Need: OS media for MASSCOMP 5500 Unix system
Organization: Miles Inc., Diagnostics Division, Elkhart, IN
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:34:11 GMT

I am looking for a set of OS media for a MASSCOMP 5500P system.  This
is an M68000-based real-time data-acquisition system with a real-time
variant of Unix (SVR3, I think).  The system has a 50Mb HDD, 45Mb tape
unit, 4Mb RAM, and a 5 1/4" floppy disk drive, along with an 8-port
serial adapter.  The system is capable of supporting a hi-res graphic
monitor, as well as serial terminals.

This particular system was manufactured in April 1984, and has a serial
number of 209.  It is, in a word, an antique.

It served as a software development platform for my company from 1984 
through 1989 or 1990.  It has been supplanted by newer workstations,
however, and is no longer needed.  We would like to get rid of it, 
however the system will not boot.  Unfortunately, all of the original 
documentation and media have been lost through the years.  In this
condition, our only real alternative is to toss the thing in the 
dumpster.  Seems quite a shame to do that to a venerable piece of 
computing history.  We would like to get the system running again,
and put it to some use or other, but without an OS, this seems to
be impractical.

I have spoken with various people at Concurrent Computer Corporation,
which bought out Masscomp some years ago, but they couldn't help me.
They did, however, tell me that since we are licensed to use the OS,
getting a copy from another system owner would be perfectly legitimate.

So, can anyone out there help me to resurrect this monster?

Any and all help will be appreciated.

Thanks -
     rms

P.S.  I have been told that these things were pretty popular with NASA.
Perhaps someone there could help me?

-- 
Rob Schultz   At Home:                At work:          +1 219 262 7206
              rms@andria.miles.com                        rms@miles.com
            gator!miles!andria!rms                      gator!miles!rms
Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant))
Subject: CD-ROM Proceedings in exist?
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 09:46:51 GMT

I am wondering: is there any Proceedings in CD-ROMs?

I am a new grad student, my research title is "Stereo Camera Calibration
using OTVs".

I need to find several proceedings but they don't exist in our local
institutions:
[1] O.D.Faugeras, L.A.Tamburino
    "The calibration problem for stereo"
    Proceedings of the IEEE Computer Society Conference on Computer Vision
    and Pattern Recognition, 1986, P.15-20
[2] R.Y.Tsai
    "An efficient and accurate camera calibration technique for 3-D Machine
     Vision"
    Proceedings of the IEEE Computer Society Conference on Computer Vision
    and Pattern Recognition, 1986, P.364-374
[3] A.Izaquire, P.Pu, J.Summers
    "A new development in camera calibration calibrating a pair of mobile
     cameras"
    Proceedings of the IEEE Computer Society Conference on Robotics
    and Automation, 1985, P.74-79
[4] J.Weng, P.Cohen, M.Herniou
    "Calibration of stereo cameras using a non-linear distortion model"
    Proceedings of the International Conference on Pattern Recognition, 1990
    P.246-253

Xref: sparky comp.misc:5010 news.misc:2192
From: johnboyd@ocdis01.UUCP (John Boyd)
Newsgroups: comp.misc,news.misc
Subject: Re: Internet Connection to Congress
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:05:50 GMT
Followup-To: comp.misc
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tinker Air Force Base, Oklahoma

In article <1jopsvINN7m8@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> gcook@horus.cem.msu.EDU (Greg Cook|xxxxxx) writes:
>
>Actually, the National Science Foundation has 100's of documents available
>online.  You can reach there on the internet Gopher system and probably by
>telnet as well.
>

How might I grab them if I only have mail access?  Thanx!

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Disclaimer: My opinion represents only me, and sometimes not even that.
Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: dblack@seas.gwu.edu (David K. Black)
Subject: Magnetic stripe card readers and writers - where to get?
Organization: George Washington University
Distribution: us
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:28:47 GMT

They are positively ubiquitous, but I've never seen them offerred in
any of the numerous catalogs that cross my desk.  Does anyone know if
"generic" mag card readers and writers are available?  ie something
that would hook up to a port on my machine along with a device driver to
facilitate reading and writing?  I suppose this might provide an
opportunity for fraud.  Is this why such equipment is hard to come by?
If so, that would raise  some interesting questions.  Like: are there
laws governing the sale of such equipment? ( I suspect not) Or  is it
simply by tacit agreement that such stuff will not be widely distributed?

Email or public replies appreciated

Thanks,

dblack@seas.gwu.edu



Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: ldm@texhrc.uucp (Lyle Meier)
Subject: Re: LAT for AIX 3.2
Organization: Texaco EPTD
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 04:02:17 GMT

Unfortunatly until fairly recently lat has been a proprietary protocol
from dec. It would be easier to buy xyplex terminal servers which
speak both tcp/ip and lat to replace the dec servers. The xyplex also
support slip to allow remote workstations to replace tcp/ip. This will
give you longer  term access to multiple workstations. My suspicition is 
that by the time one buys a lat license for rs/6000 it would be about
as cheap to replace the dec server 200s with a reasonable terminal server.

Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.arch
From: de5@ORNL.GOV (Dave Sill)
Subject: HELP: Info needed ASAP
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:56:47 GMT

I need, not later than the morning of the 27th, Eastern time, data/information
regarding workstation price performance over the past 10 years.  I need to
produce a graph demonstrating the increases in performance achieved during
that period at relatively constant cost.

For example (I made these up):

1983 $10,000 buys an XX MHz 68000-based Sun 1 with X MB RAM, roughly X MIPS
1985 $10,000 buys ...
1987 $10,000 buys ...
1989 $10,000 buys ...
1991 $10,000 buys ...
1993 $10,000 buys a 75MHz HP 700 with 32 MB RAM, roughly 80 MIPS

I need the information necessary to fill in the X's and blanks.  I can get the
recent information, but the older stuff is harder to find.  I'd also like to
use constant dollars, adjusted for inflation.  Anyone have that information?

Please send me any information you have that might be helpful.  It needn't fit
the odd-years or $10k suggested above.

-- 
Dave Sill (de5@ornl.gov)                 Computers should work the way beginners
Martin Marietta Energy Systems           expect them to, and one day they will.
Workstation Support                                                -- Ted Nelson
Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: traal@lopez.marquette.MI.US (Brian Phillips)
Subject: MIX Software on the Internet?
Organization: Great White North/UPLink
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 06:01:42 GMT


Does anyone out there know if MIX Software is on the Internet or in any way
can be reached via EMAIL?
MIX Software is best known for (I think) their Power C compiler & debugger,
and now for Multi-C (a portable, multi-threaded extension to C).
If anyone has any information, please respond by EMAIL, as I'm not sure if
my site gets all these groups.

  --Traal the BRAVE 
-- 
  EMAIL (the Good, the Bad, or the Flame) to:  traal@lopez.marquette.MI.US
   "Take a walk through the looking-glass and see the other side!" -- BPP
            "Realism is often misconstrued as pessimism." -- BPP
          "My mailer hates everybody, be sneaky." -- Mary Margret
Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.programming,comp.compilers
From: eigenstr@cs.rose-hulman.edu (Todd R. Eigenschink)
Subject: Architecture description languages for compilers?
Reply-To: eigenstr@cs.rose-hulman.edu (Todd R. Eigenschink)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:15:02 GMT
Keywords: architecture, tools, comment

I'm planning on doing some research in optimization and code generation
next quarter.  One of the topics I'm interested in is machine
descriptions--some vanilla way to describe the architecture of a machine
for purposes of code generation.  (Numbers of registers, addressing modes,
etc.)

I'd appreciate pointers to any previous work--textbooks, papers, existing
code, etc.
--
Todd Eigenschink (eigenstr@CS.Rose-Hulman.Edu)
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology, Terre Haute, IN
[There have been lots of architecture description languages over the years.
Whether any of them can be used to mechanically generate a compiler is
another question.  I suspect they'd be more useful for validation. -John]
-- 
Send compilers articles to compilers@iecc.cambridge.ma.us or
{ima | spdcc | world}!iecc!compilers.  Meta-mail to compilers-request.
Xref: sparky comp.misc:4993 comp.sys.misc:1080 comp.programming:3582
From: imc@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Ian Collier)
Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.programming
Subject: Re: Bought a computer, with no manual
Date: 25 Jan 93 11:45:08 GMT
Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory
X-Local-Date: Monday, 25th January 1993 at 11:44am GMT
Originator: imc@msc3.comlab

In article <1jsohjINN8jd@sol.tis.com>, mjr@tis.com (Marcus J Ranum) wrote:
>	Anyone out there got any references for how to use an abacus?

An encyclopaedia? :-)

>              5 buttons in each row, and a 6th separated from the rest
>with a bar.
>	Presumably the 6th button is some kind of mode-of-the-5 buttons
>button. I'm guessing that if it's up or down it means there's some kind
>of multiplier in effect?

It counts for an *addition* of 5 (which is what you meant, right?).  In
other words the abacus is a decimal device which, instead of having 10
units for each digit, has 5 units and a five so as to be less clumsy.

Ian Collier
Ian.Collier@prg.ox.ac.uk | imc@ecs.ox.ac.uk
>-- 
>                                                 "guns don't die. people do."
                                                              ^^^
'Scuse me for asking, but shouldn't this say "kill"?  I believe Bill Hicks
is one of the people to have said this.
Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller)
Subject: lex and yacc
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 06:04:34 GMT

Hello.  I've started playing with lex and yacc, because I plan
to use them in my next project (work, not school).  What's an
appropriate forum?

Thanks for any guidance,

sue
From: loki.trickster@digund.uucp (Loki Trickster) 
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Book Club comments?
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:15:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Digital Underground - PRIVATE
Reply-To: loki.trickster@digund.uucp (Loki Trickster) 

How much is shipping?  Will
   >I end up paying $5 for three books, plus $10 shipping each, or some
   >stupid thing like that?

Likely you'll just get a letter every three weeks with a "Featured
Selection" that you need do nothing to receive. IOW, if you don't tell
them you DON'T want it, they'll send it to you, and they'll bill you for
it.

You have to mail them a letter every three weeks.  Gets old, and you end
up getting a bunch of books you don't want.

Loki the Informative Trickster
---
 . QMPro 1.0 41-2003 . Lose Faith In Skepticism!
From: sandiesg@eu.net (Graeme Sandieson)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: dfvbjdf
Keywords: kdfnvkjdfn
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:43:28 GMT
Organization: European Unix systems User Group

kfmvlkdf
From: Geoff@equinox.gen.nz (Geoff Mccaughan)
Subject: Re: Help with a 14.4k modem
Newsgroups: comp.misc
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: 23 Jan 93 23:37:49 +1200
Organization: Equinox Networks

un030025@wvnvms.wvnet.edu wrote:
>Does anyone have the result codes for a Wang 14.4k modem or any
suggestions?  I
>am putting up a bbs and all I need are the codes to get going.  Thanks in
>advance.  Please reply via Private Mail.

Hmmm, so you don't have a manual for this modem eh? Must be a pirated copy.

--
Geoff, Sysop Equinox (equinox.gen.nz) +64 (3) 3854406 [4 Lines]
                               Voice: +64 (3) 3852101
        "Hi. You have just entered the fourth dimension. Small isn't it?"
Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: rchao@netcom.com (Robert Chao)
Subject: why buy a NEXT machine
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:47:22 GMT

Can someone give me a general idea of what the advantages are of a 
Next computer, as opposed to, say, a Macintosh system of a similar 
price?

-- 
Robert Chao
Oakland, California
From: ck041@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kevin Currie)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: HELP WITH IBM 370 ZMODEM!!
Date: 27 Jan 1993 13:18:55 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


	Does anybody know of an FTP site that would have a zmodem program
for a IBM 370 series mainframe??  I need one BADLY!  I have kermit now,
but I'm haveing a VERY hard time trying to download binary files.
	Note that the zmodem (or even x or ymodem) program must be
UNCOMPRESSED!!  See, I have FTP access but I can't get the files back from
the IBM home to my Amiga.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

	This message is going to be cross-posted to a couple of areas so
please respond via email.
	Thanks.

-- 
"Chalk up another soul that's lost, |       Kevin Currie  
 Calculate the social cost,         |   Ottawa,Ontario,Canada     
 You know what's not inside of me,  | ck041@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
 Raging mad insanity!!"  - S.T.     |      ag816@yfn.ysu.edu
From: sbixby@cup.portal.com (Steven W Bixby)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Re: Book Club comments?
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 14:55:52 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa


OK, folks... thank you very much for the info.  The general concensus
from several responders, is that the Newbridge book clubs are on the
level and reasonably inexpensive enough to justify their opening offers.

Thanks for your responses!  :)

  -swb-
From: gallias@ph.und.ac.za
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: ICARUS
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:49:53 GMT
Organization: University Of Natal (Durban)
NNTP-Posting-Host: pc18.ph.und.ac.za

Hi

ICARUS is a system which has a database of software authors, BBS's, FTP 
sites and files available around the world.

We are currently testing the system and would appreciate people helping out 
by sending it mail.  Simply send mail to

icarus@ph.und.ac.za

and it should teach you how to use the system.

I would like people to work out how to use the system without sending me 
hundereds of EMail messages.  If you can't work out how to use the system I 
will improve the help files.


Comments, suggestions and bug reports can be sent to

Michael Gallias
gallias@ph.und.ac.za

Thanks

BTW, please send all mail to me privately, not on NewsNet.