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From: ges@stiatl.salestech.com (Gerald Sullivan)
Subject: Re: FALL LYRICS
Organization: Sales Technologies, Inc.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 12:51:15 GMT


From "just step sideways"
When what used to excite you does not so like youve used up all your allowance
of experiances, head filled with a mass of too well known people. Just step 
sideways from this world today. Just step sideways around this place today.

From "US 80's-90's"
Its time for me to get off this crapper.

From  "Terry Waite Sez"
Terry Waite says, give us a ring give us a ring again.

I don't understand most of the Fall's lyrics. The music is very good though.
Very "trippy". I read an article somewhere (Trouser Press?) that described
the lyrics as "acid tounged". Are they associated with psychedelic usage 
in  the UK? I have never met anyone who has heard of them.
I know nothing about them other than owning every CD available
in the US. I did not even hear of them when I attended Leeds University in 
84-85.



-- 
___________________________________________________________________
Jerry Sullivan, Sales Technologies, Inc.  Atlanta,GA 
ges@salestech.com,...uupsi!stiatl!ges I don't speak for my employer.
Don't blame me, I voted Libertarian.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: dblmint@leland.Stanford.EDU (Erik S. Chen)
Subject: Re: Juliana Hatfield
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 08:29:31 GMT

In article <BxxE7s.KCH@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> gorf@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Craig Collister) writes:
>The new album "Hey Babe" bby Juliana Hatfield recently cought my eye.
>I've never heard her music before, but I have red a little about her.
>Could anyone evaluate the album, or at least describe what the music is
>like? I am into female alternative, but usually on the "ethereal" end
>of the spectrum. About the only female "heavier" kind I like is
>Danielle Dax. Of course, I could deal with something new.
>
>In other words, is she something special?
>
>
>Craig

Well, Juliana Hatfield was the lead singer of the Blake Babies, a band from
Boston.  Her music is kind fun; she actually sounds somewhat like a 12-year
old, in the cute sense, not the annoying sense.  I've only the CD single of
Forever Babe, but I do have all three Blake Babies CD/LP's (one's an EP) and
to me, I don't think her music has changed much, although I'm sure someone's
going to shout at me for saying this.
Her music is a bit of folk, a bit of pop, and quite youthful.  Comparing her
to other female vocal bands, she's a bit like the Primitives, although her
lyrics have much more substance.  Her youthfulness can be compared to that
of the Innocence Mission, although Juliana Hatfield is more emotional, lighter,
and much more energetic.  She's a lot less serious than Natalie Merchant of
10000 Maniacs, but not as sarcastic as Voice of the Beehive.

Give her a shot.

- Erik Chen

"Well the rain falls down without my help, I'm afraid, and my lawn gets wet
though I've withheld my consent.  When this grey world crumbles like a cake,
I'll be hangin' from the hope that I'll never see that recipe again."
From: keitha@spider.co.uk (Keith Aitken)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Bob Mould (was Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE)
Date: 19 Nov 92 10:43:04 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

In article <1992Nov18.161027.20819@news.uit.no> torem@stud.cs.uit.no (Tore Mallaug) writes:
>In article <15NOV199214404758@csa1.lbl.gov>, watts@csa1.lbl.gov (PAUL N WATTS) writes:
>tes ...
>|>
>|> Interesting, especially since Bob Mould also said that MBV was one of his
>|> favorite bands of the past few years (this from a radio interview I heard).
>
>Bob Mould is also influenced by PIXES. Just listen to the track "The good idea"
>on the SUGAR album. It's just like Pixes.

I think this is somewhat the other way round. The Pixies were heavily
influenced by Bob's old band, Husker Du.

KDA
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From: nieboer@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Doctor Gonzo)
Subject: Re: It's time for alt.michael-bolton.die.die.die
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:52:40 GMT

SSTAFFANS@finabo.abo.fi (MeatBread!) writes:

>In <1992Nov17.002110.4668@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> nieboer@ucsu.Colorado.EDU writes:

>> 
>> I am so utterly sick of this Bolton fucker.....first he sings all that crap,
>> and now he's dating Nicolette Sheridan? I'm mad as hell, and I'm NOT TAKING
>> ANY MORE!!
>> 
>> -- 
>> *********************************************************************************"I don't worry 'bout nothin' no because worryin's a waste of my...time." GNR  *
>> * Toby Nieboer AKA Hoek email:nieboer@ucsu.colorado.edu University of Colorado *
>> ********************************************************************************

> As long as you quote GNR, you are in no position to complain about
> anyone else, NOT EVEN Michael "It's my hair. Really!" Bolton.

>--
> Viva Hate!
And as long as you quote Moz, you're in no position to complain about GNR.
'Sides, if you hate GNR so much, why not start alt.gnr.die.die.die?
Who would you prefer I quoted? (Apart from Moz, cause it'll never happen)
And who's to say you can't like GNR *AND* PJ, NIN, REM, MLB, Mark Curry, Crowded House....etc etc etc?
So there. =)

Awaiting the numerous flames.....



-- 
*********************************************************************************"I don't worry 'bout nothin' no because worryin's a waste of my...time." GNR  *
* Toby Nieboer AKA Hoek email:nieboer@ucsu.colorado.edu University of Colorado *
********************************************************************************
From: jazz@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jason Moras)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: name the song (Dear Prudence)
Date: 19 Nov 92 09:53:22 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

yes whoever posted the 'try the beatles bucho' is right, but yes
to the original poster it is Dear Prudence, and it is Siouxie Sue
and her ghostly followers

well mr beatles bucho didnt have to be a dXXk and not even give a
good answer.

					trying to be helpfull...
					   and expecting to be flamed.

						jazz@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
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From: sherw@ocf.berkeley.edu (Gregory Sherwin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Negativland - U2 story from a different perspective
Date: 21 Nov 1992 00:36:46 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: earthquake.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Nov20.183244.879@tellab5.tellabs.com> pauls@tellabs.com (Paul Silver) writes:
>... Please allow Negativland to recover the rights to their song and
>live up to your own words (in an interview, reprinted in _TLUatN2_, Casey
>said that he wouldn't care if _Negativland U2_ was returned to Negativland
>and rereleased).

Now I noticed a lot of people who have harped on U2 and especially Island
records for the major lawsuits slapped on Negativland.  And yes, I think
to some extent there are freedom of speech issues involved.  However, I
do get the unnerving feeling that there is a good deal more of blame that
should be attributed to Negativland for the way they handled themselves. 

My first reaction was that I wanted to burn any Island record or CD I
owned, but then I started to think some about the situation.  Negativland
KNEW what they were doing when they got into that mess.  I don't think they
were so naive not to think that coming out with an album with a huge
'U2' on the cover and samplings from the group wouldn't bring lawsuits
and the like from Island Records.  They knew where this thing was headed,
and they went along with it and did it anyway.  I hate the corporate
factorization of music as much as the next guy in this newsgroup, and
I think that the music *industry* is total slime.  It is very unfortunate
that this had to happen - and personally I think there were some very amusing
shots in the ribs of U2 that Bono and the like well deserved.  But it's
like if you leave your keys on the hood of your car in New York City.
If your car gets stolen - that is a crime.  However, I have the right to
say you are stupid for doing so.

I am not so sure that this whole U2 thing with Negativland was not, in
part, designed as some kind of publicity stunt.  All I can say is that
it obviously worked to some extent - I doubt Kasey Casem ever heard of
Negativland before all of this (seeing all the cuts from _Helter
Stupid_ he used to play on the air).

Just a different perspective on a subject that I have usually heard only
one side of -- Negativland aren't the innocent martyrs that many people
want to make them out to be.

greg
From: 2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: PEARL JAM
Date: 19 Nov 1992 00:05:29 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsa.csd.mu.edu

>>you don't have to spread your distasteful opinion on to everybody else.
>
>But they *do* suck.
>
>>Before you go and say that a band sucks, think about what others may
>>think and say first, OK? 
>
>Why?
>
>>God, next thing you'll be saying that Faith No
>>More is garbage as well. 
>
>But they *are* garbage.
>

What we have here..is a battle over taste...

The more important question to all this is...

Who the *fuck* cares?...
If ya like Pearl Jam...listen to them...If ya dont...dont listen to them...

What is the big deal here...One poster asked PJ fans to give some reasons for
why they dig PJ..and what makes it so different from 70s rock...People
responded with a variety of vituperative flames...but little substance...

Don't take it so damn personally...In the post quoted above both the pro- and
anti-PJers were flaming away over taste...what's the point?  

Everyone grooves to a different beat...live with it.


Later.
-justin

   -There's too many of us, there's too many of us, there's too many
     --Let's have a war!  So you can go die!
     --Let's have a war!  We need the space!
     --Let's have a war!  I need some money.
                                -From the prophet Lee Ving
  		                  "Fear...The Record"
From: coakley@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Cpl.Flash )
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Neds
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:39:33 GMT
Organization: Coventry University, England

In article <1992Nov18.124411.25259@abo.fi> SSTAFFANS@finabo.abo.fi (MeatBread!) writes:
>
> Exactly how good is the new Neds Atomic Dustbin album?
>I've heard that it should be softer than Godfodder and thought
>I should hear some opinions before I order it.
>
>--
>Simon


	You new album is brilliant. I've had it for around a month
	and the songs are by far the best they have ever recorded.
	One of the songs "Intact", which will be the new single
	here in England is excellent. It isn't softer than "God-
	fodder", just more organised, they have learnt how to be
	more powerful. Glad to hear that there are some Neds fans
	over in America. I'm going to see them live next friday,
	so if any-one wants i'll post a review onto the net.

	             Garrett


      ".....he was a kind man, he was a wise man; he had plans,
       he had wisdom.............................bullshit man!"
                                           Neds Atomic Dustbin
                                                       "Intact"
From: feit@acsu.buffalo.edu (Elissa Feit)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Orbital and/or Moby
Date: 17 Nov 92 04:24:28 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

What can anyone tell me about either Orbital or Moby? I'd
never even heard of the latter (err, I mean before I heard 
of them today ;-)

Elissa Feit (feit@cs.buffalo.edu // {rutgers,uunet}!cs.buffalo.edu!feit)
 And I feel like a beetle on its back And there's no way for me to get up
 Love'll get you like a case of Anthrax And that's something I don't want 
  to catch                       - Gang of Four
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: dblmint@leland.Stanford.EDU (Erik S. Chen)
Subject: Re: Depeche Mode
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 16:55:44 GMT

Depeche Mode is currently in the studio, hammering away at yet another
album.  They will release a single from their work sometime in the late
spring of 1993, and the album will follow later in the fall.  It's sort
of like what happened with Personal Jesus and Violator.
Enjoy.

- Erik Chen
"Well the rain falls down without my help, I'm afraid, and my lawn gets wet
though I've withheld my consent.  When this grey world crumbles like a cake,
I'll be hangin' from the hope that I'll never see that recipe again!"
From: rjc@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Caley)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Why I hate Sinead
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:06:48 GMT
Organization: Human Communication Research Center
In-reply-to: Bill.Carney@altern8.mi.org's message of 17 Nov 92 04:23:38 GMT

In article <722017679.1@altern8.mi>, Bill Carney (bc) writes:

bc> I become bored with political and anti/pro-religious music quite
bc> quickly...music is not the place for substantive discussion.

Since when did politics have anything to do with substantive
discussion? 

The problem with putting politics into music is that it distorts
things. Music is _important_. :-|

--
rjc@cogsci.ed.ac.uk				_O_
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From: stevie@soda.berkeley.edu (Steven Collins)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Pixies -- what's up?
Date: 17 Nov 1992 09:49:39 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

My opinion on Pixies v. Breeders:

I refuse to "choose" one or the other because Black and Kim are my
second and third favortie songwriters (can you guess my first?  I bet
you can...).  To me, Trompe le MOnde sounded like a Black solo album.
So, i figger since it seems as if black and kim will never be able to
truly collaborate again, they might as well go their separate ways so
Kim may be heard.  But, as someone pointed out they ain't broke up
yet, just resting...

Steven.

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: CJBILL@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU (BILL, C J)
Subject: Re: Viva...Del Santo!
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:04:41 GMT

Southern Culture On The Skids are from Chapel Hill.  Mary and Rick both live
there.  Mary is originaly from Ronoke (sp?) Virginia.  They is nice folk.
Check them live.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.industrial
From: mcdonghj@unix2.tcd.ie (Nascent Virion.....)
Subject: IN DUST... something new.
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:56:39 GMT


The article that follows is (c) Prometheus 1992

			IN DUST :- A Must.
			==================


How refreshing!
Here am I at home listening to a new sound. The music builds slowly but surely
and I find multiple climaxes in each song. IN DUST (industrial?? :->) are
a band close to home. Homing from Belfast(remember SLF), I saw them first in the
Rock Garden one Saturday night supporting lil' ole Whpping Boy. It is rare in 
Dublin to see an excellent band such as this before it goes public. An unusual 
line up to be sure: A singer, A guitarist, Stephen Nolan. Steve Nolan is the 
rythm section: Keyboards, Drum Machine and xtra guitar... No Bass to be seen 
anywhere. The band grab you up and make your subconscious take over. You have no
choice. Dance... Let your body move! Focus! I remember little of the gig except 
that my mind went tripping whilst my body slumbered fighting against the impulse
to smash the nearest wall into pieces... and that was just the song 
'Bewilderment'. 
The thing about this band is that I can't categorise them. Society dictates
the need to stick an emblem on them... and I'm trying sooo hard it hurts.
One minute I'm thinking they sound like Ministry, Siouxie & the Banshees,
Tones on Tail, the Sugercubes, NIN yet they aren't any of these. As I said
the gig(3 months ago, it took that long for it to sink in how absolutely 
fantastic this original work really are)is a vague remembrance of euphoria,
but I am really grateful for the chance to pick up their debut?? single the
"Bewildermental EP" for $3. Wow! The songs are all !"$@#|\##!. 
There are four songs on the 12": Spoof, Focus!, Bewilderment & Leopards.
I await desperately for the return of this band to a local gig venue. It'd
be impossible to comprehend my college putting on any band this good(though
Whipping Boy are playing there in the near future). Oh well...
Anyone interested in the band should write to:
		In Dust
		c/o Wallcreeper
		P.O. Box 553
		Belfast
		BT1 1HZ
		Northern Ireland	
Even get it just for the interesting cover art! I doubt however you'll get an 
autographed copy...
 
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mcdonghj@unix2.tcd.ie              ~~         "I dress my tears in costumes.."
				   ~~
"The next performance is a comedy, Beware of the soothsayers sop
 Untangle the pearls, Don't hinder the pages, Beat the reaper to the crop."
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Other Pearl Jam releases
From: klacher@catarina.gac.edu (Kimberly A Lacher)
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:54:25 -0600

Yes, have a bootleg of Pearl Jam...
It's really great...
If you want more info.

My address is: klacher@nic.gac.edu

----Kim----
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: mos@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Michael O'Sullivan)
Subject: Re: where does punk and hardcore fit into this
Organization: AOTC - CSSC
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 07:23:27 GMT

>there is no place in this world for punk rock man... that crap... who
>needs it.  GO out and buy the new Moby cd and dance.. thats where its
>at man.

    You have your opinions , other's have theirs. The fact that your
    preferred style of music is in my opinion crap, does not give me a
    right to label it as such. Lot's of people like punk rock. Me for one.
   
			  Michael O'Sullivan
>-- 


-- 
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Customised Software		  can only see what remains to be done...
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: falcon@camelot.bradley.edu (D. Nathan Hood)
Subject: Re: Looking for Steph @ GMU?
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: 17 Nov 92 14:59:39 GMT

In <Nov.17.08.47.32.1992.16058@pilot.njin.net> gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob Gajarsky - Hobokenite) writes:


>Steph - mail to your account won't go through - i might have the
> wrong address.  can you drop me a line?  thanks - bob

yeah, this is the right place for this post... NOT!!!!!
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:45:31 -0500 
From: Joshua John Buergel <jbbb+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Superchunk
	<5784@sumax.seattleu.edu>

>Ooops, sorry about that null post.  Anyway, I was saying:
> 
>Someone loaned me Superchunk's "No Pocky For Kitty" and I've really been
>liking it.  I wanted to know if anyone could tell me more about this band,
>like if they have anything else out. 
> 
>Also, I figure from the credits that they're from North Carolina (am I
>right?), which made me think that a lot of the really distinctive bands
>that I've liked over time are from what would in general be called the
>South, e.g., early Fetchin' Bones, Antietam, Pylon, Eleventh Dream Day....

Superchunk are indeed from North Carolina, from the much mentioned
Raleigh/Chapel Hill 'scene'.  Anyway, they have three LPs out:

_Superchunk_ (on Matador Records)
_No Pocky For Kitty_ (on Matador)
_Tossing Seeds:  Singles 1989-1991_ (on Merge/Touch & Go)

Tossing Seeds is a collection of most of their 7"ers that have come out
on Merge Records (I think there is one that is left off?).  They have
also appeared on various singles 'series' (I think they've been on one
of the Simple Machines singles and I know they've had a Teryaki Asthma
song).  Finally, they have a new single out called "Mower".  I've only
heard the title track, and it sounded fairly punkish compared to their
earlier stuff.  I hope they haven't abandoned their sound altogether. 
At any rate, all of their albums are worth having, although I prefer the
'real' LPs to _Tossing Seeds_, which is a bit raw at first and doesn't
really hang together exceptionally well.

Joshua Buergel - allroy@cmu.edu - jbbb@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: olivier@everest.ee.umn.edu (Olivier Meirhaeghe)
Subject: Re: Bob Mould (was Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, EE dept.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:03:08 GMT

In <1992Nov19.171625.27322@news.uit.no> torem@stud.cs.uit.no (Tore Mallaug) writes:

>In article <1992Nov19.150045.20434@news.uiowa.edu>, williams@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Kent Williams) writes:
>|> From article <1992Nov18.173302.257@news2.cis.umn.edu>, by olivier@everest.ee.umn.edu (O
>|> 
>|> AS HAS BEEN STATED HERE BEFORE: Bob Mould wrote 'A good idea' as a sort
>|> of Pixies homage.  And yes, you'd have to say that the majority of the
>|> influence runs the other direction.  Check out a dual interview last
>|> year in 'Musician' of Bob Mould and Black Francis, where Black Francis
>|> says he saw a Husker Du show when he was in high school (!)
>|> --


>OK! OK! Let's talk about something else!

		I Agree with you. there is absolutely nothing new in
	the new Sugar Lp. I dont say they are bad neither , but there is
	nothing new ( Hoover Dam , If i cant change your mind ..maybe  )
	but i dont think they really intended to make something new ( or
	in some sense they failed..well..maybe Man of the Moon is weird.
	ok. i cannot say if i hate it or love it ). I was wondering if
	the David barbe in Sugar is the same that Plays bass on Uncle
	tupelo's "shaky ground" ? It is strange..Black Francis Looks like
	Bob Mould..or is it Bob Mould who looks like Black Francis....
	
O.
From: mattski@wpi.WPI.EDU (Matt Skawinski)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: quote...
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:21:38 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu


ok, quick question.... does anyone know what movie this quote is from


"Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to, weren't
never there, and where you are ain't no good unless you can get away from
it."

i know that this can be found on the single of 'jesus built my hotrod'
by ministry... but i would like to know what movie its from... from what
i've heard jello biafra makes a cameo appearance in the movie...
but i don't know the name....... can anyone help me out???
thanx.
						-mattski
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