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From: azjohn@eagle.larc.nasa.gov (John Paul Phillips)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Cowboys Bandwagon (was: da' bills)
Date: 12 Nov 1992 19:19:28 GMT
Organization: NASA
Distribution: world
Reply-To: azjohn@eagle.larc.nasa.gov (John Paul Phillips)
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In article <BxM6EL.LDC@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v075p7mg@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu 
(Jonathan G Keller) writes:
> 
> Dear Cowboy Fans:
> 
> As a bored Buffalo Bills fan for 10 years, I was just wondering if
> I can join the Dallas Bandwagon.  Would you guys  mind if I join?
> 
> 					seriously yours
> 					Jon (helen) Keller 

Go ahead... It's a free country. The only thing I'd demand from you is that 
you keep your woofing to a minimum, seeing that you haven't earned your spurs 
(pun much intended). Leave the major woofing to us longtime Cowboys fans 
(including yours truly, naturally ;^)) Now if only some of us Cowboys fans 
could learn to recognize sarcasm... (I heard you, Bill M-S and that's quite a 
feat, as I'm profoundly deaf) 

You know, when people say "you Cowboys fans..." I feel as my honor is being 
questioned, and that I'm being unfairly stereotyped. True, some Cowboys fans 
are jerks (yes, you heard me), but not all. That goes for every team in every 
league in every sports (did I miss anything?). As an example, allow me to 
remind you of Aaron Perkins, aka "MR. CAP-LOCK", who has not posted for quite 
a while... (aaahhh... there is justice in this world!), Gloria P. John, and 
Derrell Emery LaRockhead (with an apology to the latter two for bunching them 
with MR. CAP-LOCK)

I didn't plan to reply to this, as I'm usually a lurker but seeing the 
(helen) part, I changed my mind. I'm deaf, but not blind though I wonder 
about that after a blown chess game...

Since I'm posting this, I may as well as include some messages..

>Todd Elliott, if you're reading this, my e-mail just won't get thru to any 
Gally account, even through I did get your e-mail ??!!

>Doug/ Debbie Pruett, I still haven't heard from you about Debbie possibly 
being my old friend from PDSD.

>I'm really enjoying this season.

COWBOYS FOREVER!

------------------------
       John Paul Phillips   
             "Azjohn"         
         NASA/Langley        
azjohn@eagle.larc.nasa.gov
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From: emilio@crchh444.BNR.CA 
Subject: Re: Cowboys Meal Menu
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 02:31:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.155852.21792@PacBell.COM>, jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM
(John P. Gloria) writes:
|>In article <BxJB9x.2Mp@abode.ttank.com> eric@abode.ttank.com (Eric C.
Bennett) writes:
|>>The following is the lunch menu for the Cowboys leading up this Sundays
|>>Cowboys/Rams game at Texas Stadium:
|>>
|>>Thursday  : Ram Chops
|>>Friday    : Chicken Fried Ram
|>>Saturday  : Roast Leg of Ram
|>>Sunday    : Battered and Deep Fried Ram
|>>
|>>The Rams haven't got a prayer on Sunday against the Cowboys. I can
pick on the
|>>
|>If their is prayer, then anything is possible. :-)
|>Now wouldn't it be wonderful if the Rams shit kick the 'Boyz's 
|>behind. Presumably, not everyone has learned that ANY team can
|>lose a game. Although, I am a 'Boyz/Rams basher, I hope the RAMS,
|>RAM up and down the 'Boyz's throats/asses.
|>-- 
  
  John I did not know you were Cowboy basher :) ,  but I know
  what you desire is exactly what the CARDINALS  did to your
  niners two weeks ago...........YESSSSSSSSSS.............ahem    :)




                    
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From: GC.JAB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tony Bechtold)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 49ers Kick ASS AGAIN!
Date: 11 Nov 1992 13:53:42 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
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In article <ADRIENE.112.0@YaleVM.ycc.yale.edu>,
ADRIENE@YaleVM.ycc.yale.edu (ALN - GO GIANTS) writes:

>In article <1992Nov10.052154.19541@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:
>>
>>Does the score 41-3 indicate an ass whooping?
>>
>>Do the Falcons truly SUCK as bad as they looked on
>>fucking MNF?

>Besides the fact that they DO suck, check the numbers, they we'rent that
>bad, it was the TURNOVERS that put the nails in the coffin.

The only reason why they put those numbers up was because of the
soft defense that the Niners played in order to keep the clock
running.
Come to think about it, the main reason why the Niners "D" has such
a poor statistical rating is because of the leads they build up
early in a game, forcing them to adapt a soft defense, thus giving
up those passing yards. Granted they have been burned a few times!

                                                   Tony
                                                GO 49ERS!!!
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From: tap1040@zeus.tamu.edu (SPEED RACER)
Subject: Re: Cleveland 24, Houston 14
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:51:00 GMT

In article <BxFn6B.85H@rice.edu>, apo@owlnet.rice.edu (Apolak Borthakur) writes...
>I think the Oilers have to think of doing something drastic 
>like going in for a change of the coaching staff. They are
>a team that has a lot of talented players, but are just not
>able to perform to their capabilities. They lack the 
>motivation and the desire to win. They need something that 
>will bring the back to life- and the best way to bring in 
>a fresh attitude is to get a new coach pronto.
> 

Baloney!!  The Oilers have had this problem for *quite* some time.
They had it under Glanville, and they have it under Pardee.  There
are just too many players on that team that are playing for themselves,
and not for the good of the team.  Too many heads are *swelled* so big
that they can't play well any more.  The problems go back a ways, but
it has only been recently that things have come to a head, and that is
why it is such a big deal no to the media, when it wasn't before.

___________________________________________________________________________
Tracy Persky           Texas A&M University           tap1040@zeus.tamu.edu

John Madden: "There's a good sign.  Troy Aikman putting his pants back on."
Pat Summerall: "That's ALWAYS a good sign."  (RFK Stadium, Nov. 24, 1991)
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From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Subject: Re: Cities chosen for Super Bowl sites?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:48:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.153151.7809@pbhya.PacBell.COM> drhall1@PacBell.COM (Doug R. Hall) writes:
>> #   winner   loser  score       site     attend.          MVP
>>---- -------------- -------   --------------------  -----------------
>>XIX     SF vs Miami 38 - 16   Stanford     84,059   Montana, SF
>                               ^^^^^^^^
>The networks screwed this one up so bad it could be an answer to a triva
>question. If you believe that the "site" is a city and not a school, then
>they played in Palo Alto. After all, Pitt didn't play Rams at USC.
What does USC have to do with Pasadena? It's not their home stadium.
And it's almost 3 years since they last played  in the Rose Bowl.

>>XIV   Pitt vs Rams  31 - 19   Pasadena    103,985   Bradshaw, Pitt

No, this line should read:

XIV   Pitt vs Rams  31 - 19   UCLA    103,985   Bradshaw, Pitt

-- 
                                          Edward Lor
                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
                                          
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From: dlb54694@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dan Blanchard)
Subject: Leave It To The Bears...  :)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 09:17:51 GMT


Well, unfortunately, I am a Bears fan, but at least they do something
good --  THEY GIVE OTHER TEAMS LOTS OF CONFIDENCE.  :)  

-- 
Dan Blanchard                                    Internet: barfmaster@uiuc.edu
Math / Computer Science student at             Bitnet: DBLANCHA@UIUCVMD.BITNET 
the University of Illinois      NeXT Voice email: dlb54694@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
Elton John and Queen fan extra-ordinare
From: jimarcey@eos.ncsu.edu (JOEL IAN MARCEY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: THE REAL MIDSEASON PRO BOWL SELECTIONS-------AFC
Date: 13 Nov 92 18:34:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: ncsu.1992Nov13.183432.3664
Reply-To: jimarcey@eos.ncsu.edu (JOEL IAN MARCEY)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Originator: jimarcey@c00562-1403br.eos.ncsu.edu


1992 Midseason Pro Bowl

AFC
---
QUARTERBACKS
1. Dan Marino (Dolphins) -----\   NO EXPLANATIONS NEEDED FOR THESE TWO
2. Jim Kelly  (Bills)    -----/

RUNNING BACKS
1. Barry Foster (Steelers) -----Leading Rusher...Great open field vision
2. Thurman Thomas (Bills) -----All Purpose Leader....Can find Holes
3. Tony Paige (Dolphins)-----A GREAT BLOCKING FULLBACK FOR THE ABOVE 

WIDE RECEIVERS
1. Haywood Jefferies (Oilers) -------His over-confidence is an asset
2. Al Toon (Jets)-----A surpise? He just needs a good QB to get him the ball 
			then he is spectacular.
3. Andre Reed (Bills)---- Best over the middle in AFC
4. Anthony Miller (Chargers)--- Why? Why Not.

OFFENSIVE LINE
should use a team becasue the know how to work well together..

1. Miami Dolphins -----Marino rarely gets sacked
2. Pittsburgh Steelers -----If Barry Foster is leading rusher......

NOTE: The Buffalo Bills would be there except too many OL injuries


DEFENSIVE LINE
1. Bruce Smith (Bills) ----He is back folks!
2. Steve Emtman (Colts) -----Good rookie year...helps Colts D (will not be in 
					final Pro Bowl..out for season)
3. Leslie O'Neal (Chargers) ---- 8 sacks....leads awesome Charger D
4. Neil Smith (Chiefs) ---- 8 1/2 sacks
5. Ray Childress (Oilers) ----8 sacks.....always consistent
6. Cortez Kennedy (Seahawks) -----a bright spot for team's dismal season

LINEBACKERS
1. Cornelius Bennet (Bills) ---- Great speed...good against the run
2. Derrick Thomas (Chiefs) ----- 10 1/2 sacks....enough said
3. Junior Seau (Browns) -----comes from anywhere on field to get you

DEFENSIVE BACKS
1. Rod Woodson (Steelers) -----QB's like to stay away from his area
2. Henry Jones (Bills) ----leads league in INT's
3. Louis Oliver (Dolphins) ----Great first game against Bills...Hard Hitter
4. Ronnie Lott (Raiders) ----What would a Pro Bowl be w/o the fierceness of Lott
5. ? Mcmillan (Jets) ----forgot his first name. Oh well. Anyway he is a good,
				smart ball player....knows where the ball is

SPECIAL TEAMS
a. punter
   Ron Stark (Colts) ----I suppose. I don't care who criticzes me about him
				....all I know is that he is consistent
b. place kicker 
   Nick Lowery (Chiefs) ----superbly accurate

c. specialist
   Steve Tasker (Bills) -----always in the thick of things on blocked kicks and
				returns. Great hitter for such a small body




I expect criticisms, comments, etc...Why else would I have made this list...
	surely not for my health.



Buffalo Bills #1
	
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From: kettler@pierre.mit.edu (KETTLER, THOMAS R.)
Subject: CINCINNATI BENGALS ANTI-WOOF
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: MIT Lab for Nuclear Science
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:46:00 GMT

Since the "anti-woof" seems to work so well, it is time for one for the 
Bengals so here goes:

Boomer Esiason throttles George Blanda's 42 INT record for a season. He says "I 
wanted to find a record that I could break and this seemed the most logical 
one. However, I threw 55 since Blanda only had a 12 game season."

Harold Green is traded to the Raiders for Napoleon McCallum to improve the 
rushing offense.

Carl Pickens is released and Louis Lipps is acquired off waivers for 
improvement in special teams play.

Alfred Williams is traded to Tampa Bay for Ed Brady for pass rushing ability 
and to get a long snapper.

Anthony Munoz retires and is replaced by Dave Remington at left tackle.

Derrick Fenner is traded to the Seahawks for a set of Topps football cards.

The Bengals trade David Klingler to the Skins for LB Huey Richardson.

The Bengals lose 225-0 to the Jets, then lose 300-0 at home to Detroit and 
500-0 at home to Pittsburgh.

					Sincerely yours,

					Thomas R. Kettler "Bengals Fanatic"
From: st1ge@Rosie.UH.EDU (Edward Hui)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Montana throwing again...ho hum
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:25:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: menudo.1992Nov6.172542.16468
Reply-To: st1ge@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston

In article <1992Nov5.201241.1698@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com>, marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall) writes:
>Joe Montana worked out at an undisclosed Bay Area location on Tuesday,
>throwing about 75 passes to John Taylor and Wesley Walls.  After the
>workout Montana said that he "felt great" and that there was absolutely
>no pain. Reporters asked Wesley Walls how Montana looked, and his only
>response was "How did he look? He had on a Toronto Blue Jays cap". And
>of course the reporters got nothing out of John Taylor.
>
>As for George Seifert, he continues to be sort of ho-hum about the whole
>situation. He has no plans to put Montana on the practice squad anytime
>soon, and continues to distance himself from the whole situation.
>
>So, the saga continues. I expect that next week we will be reading that
>Montana over-extended himself and that his elbow is sore again, but that
>"he'll be throwing again in a couple of weeks."
>
>=============================================================================
>Bob Marshall                     \\     "Women aren't as smart as they
>Lockheed Missiles & Space Co.     \\     think they are; they think we
>Sunnyvale, CA                      \\    men know a lot more than we
>marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com\\   really do."
>"I tell the truth 'cept when I lie"  \\     - Tim the Toolman
>=============================================================================

       It would be nice if the Niners have already clinched a playoff spot
or wrapped up the division title before the last week of the season.  Then
Seifert could play Montana on the final game against the Lions if it is
meaningless.  To have Joe playing a Monday Night, nationally televised
game at home would be a good way to bid farewell.

Edward Hui
From: spl2@po.cwru.edu (Sam Lubchansky)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Trivia
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 05:25:06 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
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In article <721605644snx@smok.demon.co.uk> richard@smok.demon.co.uk (Richard Clyne) writes:
>From: richard@smok.demon.co.uk (Richard Clyne)
>Subject: Trivia
>Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:00:44 +0000
>Who was the last player to rush for a TD, pass for a TD, Receive a TD, and
>return for a TD in the same season?
>
>I'll guess at an ansew in a weeks time.
>--
>Richard Clyne
>319 Violet Lane, Croydon, Surrey, CR4 4HN. Tel +44 (0)81 686 7159
>richard@smok.demon.co.uk (Prefered)    rclyne@cix.compulink.co.uk

I believe that this was Harry Sidney for the Denver Gold back in the U.S.F.L.



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From: riff@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher P. Riff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Neil Anderson & Other Benched for Bears ?
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:30:49 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

rja@mahogany126.cray.com (Russ Anderson) writes:

>Da Bears real problems are in the trenches.  The key players in the OL & DL
>are getting old (Van Horn, Bortz, Dent, McMichael, etc), others are
>gone (Hilgenberg, Hampton), and the new guys are not filling their shoes.

>Da Bears are facing the same problem the Vikes ('78-86) and Steelers (mid 80's)
>did when their linemen got old and were not easily replaced.

Agreed. From what I've seen, Auzene will be a very good LT eventually and
I am still hopeful about Stan Thomas at RT, but Bortz and Thayer are getting
on in years and Fontenot is no Hilgenberg. I haven't seen much in terms
of young interior offensive linemen either. Taken individually, you can
convince yourself that the players the Bears have on OL are alright, but 
as a group, you just don't see the dominating type of players that they
had five years ago.

Same story on the DL. I think Spellman will be quite a player, eventually.
But Dent and McMichael are getting old. I really expected more of Trace
Armstrong than he has shown this season. Perry is a solid run defender, but
other than a few big plays a game from Dent and McMichael, the Bears really
get very little pass rush from the DL.

It's really too bad about the OL, because I think the Bears are as talented
at the skill positions on offense as they have been in some time. Harbaugh
has really developed into a solid QB. Anderson, Muster, Lewis and Green
give a solid running game (when they can get a little blocking). Waddle
is a fine possession-type receiver and Wendell Davis is better than he
is given credit for. I've been very impressed with Jennings at TE, now
if only Thornton were healthy. I really believe that the Bears could put
quite a few points on the board if only they were able to get more 
consistent play from the offensive line.

Chris Riff
riff@dartmouth.edu
From: jono@cs.monash.edu.au (Jonathan Oliver)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Most Overrated Teams, Players, Coaches.
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:57:45 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Monash University, Australia

jeffr@ssec.wisc.edu (Jeff Ramin) writes:

>Although I know I'm going to get endless flames for this one, I would add
>John Elway to this list.  For some reason, he's always been the media's 
>darling.  Has anyone seen his QB rating this year?  Very poor.  It seems
>all anyone ever wants to talk about is his comebacks.  Like he's the only
>Bronco out on the field when they come from behind.  During a comeback, his
>line, his receivers and the crowd {it always seems these comebacks take 
>place in Denver} are just as instrumental as he is.

I would tend to agree with you. During the 90s Elways is just not the same,
but in the late 80s he took some teams to the superbowl that did not deserve
to be there.
	The Denver defense decimated by Doug Williams was slow and undersized.
I just don't know how Elway got them there.

	Jon OLiver
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From: jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes)
Subject: Re: How to improve Eagles offense
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:04:58 GMT

In article <1dns8bINNk39@aludra.usc.edu>, tehyang@aludra.usc.edu (Teh Kao Yang) writes:
> While watching the Eagles-Raiders game the commentators kept saying how the
> loss of Keith Jackson has really hurt the Eagles offense. They were saying
> that now they have no legitimate threat up the middle, thus enabling the
> defense to double cover the wide receivers. OK, so that might be true, but
> why don't the Eagles come up with some new offensive schemes to compensate?
> Here are some that I can think of:
> 1. Use the 3 wide receiver set(like the Redskins) more often.
> 2. Use Walker or Sherman as an extra receiver.
> Can anyone else suggest some other ways to spice up the Eagles offense?

Now that WR Roy Green has been activated from IR, the Eagles are going
to a 3-WR set.  You can expect to see this more often.

Heath Sherman is not a great receiver plus he's a small target.  You
don't want him going over the middle.  Keith Byars and Herschel Walker
are gifted receivers with the size to go over the middle.  The only
problem is that it takes too long for a RB lined up in the backfield
to get down the middle.  You need a quick strike over the middle.  So
either TE Pat Beach or Mo Johnson need to improve or Keith Byars needs
to move back to TE.  Byars has a broken right hand so he will be
limited to the things that he can do.

I'd use the 3-WR set and allow Randall to roll out more rather stay in
the pocket.  He can throw on the run with the best of them.  And as
Byars' hand heals I'd use him more at TE.  The backfield combination
of Herschel and Heath looked good against the Raiders.


E-A-G-L-E-S

Joe Dakes
AT&T Microelectronics
555 Union Boulevard
Allentown, PA  18103
alux1!jmd
From: jdhl@troi.cc.rochester.edu (papa_sm00sh)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: run defenses...
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:01:22 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <BILLMS.92Nov9124344@dip.eecs.umich.edu> billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith) writes:

>How much do you think this has to do with the Buff O putting so many points
>on the board early on, and taking teams out of their runn offense?

probably a lot... but given their 4 rather poor performances in game
5-8, i am surprised that no team accomplished it (although 1 of them
was vs the pats... so make that 3 dismal games and no 100 yard
rusher...


jason
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From: tom@vexcel.com (Tom Baltzer)
Subject: Elway given reigns in Broncos victory over the Jets
Summary: Broncos 27 Jets 16
Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder CO
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:04:34 GMT

Dan Reeves shows some interesting class here and decides to ask
Elway if he wants to call the plays.  Elway takes a day looking
over the game plan and says "Yes".  Team finds out just before they
take the field.  

I thought something was different yesterday at Mile High.  
Passing on first down?  What's this?  Where is the usual 
Dan Reeves Run, Run, Pass (Elway crunch), Punt style of offense?
Well I found out this news today.  And IF John wants it next
week when the Broncs prepare to take another bite out of the big
apple, Reeves says the job is his.  (Did Bolan have something to 
do with this?  Is Dan backing down a little, worried about his
job?  Tune in next week and we'll see!)

Anyway, the Broncs looked great on offense for the 2nd week in 
a row, (yes we lost to the Chargers, but we had some offense!).

The Jets did a strange (and costly), substitution of O`brian for Nagle
with about 2 minutes left in the half.  First pass is picked off by 
Wyman Henderson, and he takes it in for the score!

Michael Young is back and looking pretty good, (considering it's his
first game of the season!).  Sammie Smith looked pretty weak, and then
left the game with groin pain, (I sure hope you Miami fans are enjoying 
this  :-(

Well just had to rant a little.

Tom.
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From: laura@sdd.hp.com (Laura Mansfield)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro,rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Crazy & Fake Plays
Date: 9 Nov 1992 18:41:32 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
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2 things:

1.  What was the rule the NCAA (or NFL?) made against fake plays?

2.  Yesterday in the NFL in the Tampa Bay(?) game, the quarterback
    pretended to be arguing with the Coach (Sam Wyche ?) and started
    walking toward the sideline, and the ball was snapped to the
    running back while the defense's attention was diverted.  If it
    had succeeded, it would have been great, but would it have been
    legal?

Laura "really sketchy on the details" Mansfield
  
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