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From: jimiii@mips.com (Jim Warford)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BICYCLE CRASH
Date: 9 Apr 1992 21:27:18 GMT
Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Sunnyvale, California
NNTP-Posting-Host: electron.mips.com

In article <9209712.29991@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> gleeson@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Martin Joseph GLEESON) writes:
>In <Udr2rpO00VAtFlsRUO@andrew.cmu.edu> ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Joseph Andy) writes:
>>> And what kind of jerk are sitting on the road just to wait for
>>> another jerk to show up?
>
>No, he was some jerk who wanted to take the law into his own hands.
>
 No, I was some jerk who wanted the person responsible (I assume
he was responsible as HE ran a red light) for my motorcycle repairs
and road rash to face the legal system.  All I needed to do was 
follow him to his domicile, get the address, and have the police
issue a warrant for his arrest for FELONY hit and run.  That would
allow me to sue him in court for motorcycle repairs and doctor
bills.  
 Being able to take a wire brush and scrub the shit out of his
ass as the doctor had to do to me would have been nice but 
unfortunately our legal system doesn't believe in an eye for
an eye.  But maybe next time he tried that stunt he pulled in
front of a car that couldn't avoid him and got his reward.

 After today you can also add roller-bladers to the list of
idiots with no clues.

Don't ever take a day off to fix your truck:
 455 unread articles in rec.motorcycles--read now?

--jimiii


-- 
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 Younger women 
 Older whiskey
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: hejl@ssd.dl.nec.com (Mike Hejl)
Subject: Re: Headsets (Stronglight?)
Organization: NEC America, Switching Systems Division
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:40:51 GMT

In article <65201@apple.Apple.COM> ehouse@Apple.COM (Eric House) writes:
>In article <702796083.0@selene.FidoNet> Tim.Cahill@f99.n121.z1.FidoNet.Org (Tim Cahill) writes:
>>Just bought one and installed it. Like it a lot!
>
>Great.  Let us know if you still like it 10 or 20,000 miles from now.

I have over 10k miles on a Stronglight and it is going strong: no pitting or
obvious bearing/race wear.  It does, however, feel "stiffer" (ie. more
fricton when turning; either the seals or the larger contact area) than a
conventional headset but this isn't noticeable when riding.

My last Campy Record headset (with "Selform" (tm) :-)) lasted about 5k miles
before pitting started showing up on the bearing races. (Yes, it was adjusted
correctly - but not by the bike shop...)

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From: mcgredo@bluto.ie.orst.edu (Don McGregor)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: 'Adult' one-speeds?
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:56:04 GMT
Reply-To: mcgredo@bluto.ie.orst.edu
Organization: Oregon State University - Univ. Computing Services

Christopher Gunn writes
>
>Is there such a thing as an adult one-speed (other than a fixed-gear)?
>
I saw a Fuji Silhouette in a bike store the other day.  Looks like single  
speed, coaster brake, mountain bike bars, and knobby-ish tires.  The tires  
were pretty silly for a single speed street bike.

--
Don McGregor             | California danger signs: you own more pairs of 
mcgredo@bluto.ie.orst.edu| shorts than you do long pants.
From: pme@otter.hpl.hp.com (Pete Earlam)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 10:26:07 GMT
Subject: Teeth, gears and inches ?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles

Forgive me if this is a FAQ but I don't have too much time to browse.
However I seem to have forgotten how to work out the number of inches
per pedal rev. for gears. I remember it being something like:-

  Front No. Teeth
  --------------  X Circumference (or was it diameter?) of wheel
  Rear No. Teeth

Have I remembered correctly ?
                                    Pete Earlam
From: mackinto@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Mackintosh)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Teeth, gears and inches ?
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:04:32 GMT
Reply-To: mackinto@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Mackintosh)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

"Gear inches" as we use in the US is determined by:
	 Chain Ring Teeth
	 ----------------   X  Wheel Diameter
	Rear Sprocket Teeth
This is the equivalent diameter of the wheel on a high-wheeler (no gearing)
bicycle.

Many other countries use "development" which is the distance traveled
in one pedal revolution.  Multiply the above ratio by the wheel circumference
or "gear inches" by 3.14.

For a 700c wheel the diameter is pretty close to 26.5 inches.

David Mackintosh
From: samblane@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sean Samblanet)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: WANTED: Tandem Bicycle (or info)
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:44:21 GMT
Reply-To: samblane@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sean Samblanet)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD


    I don't know much about tandem bikes except they are much more exp
ensive than I thought_new.($1500-2000).  Any info as to where I can
find one reasonable priced is appreciated.

Thanks Sean_Samblanet  H 301-963-5792
		       W 301-227-5411
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Organization: Doctoral student, Biology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Date: Thu,  9 Apr 1992 21:03:46 -0400 
From: "Eric P. Ingersoll" <ei00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: measuring stem extension length


I want to buy a new, longer stem for my road bike. I tried measuring the
extension of my current stem so I would know what extension to get, but
I wasn't sure where I should measure.  I tried a number of different
measurements and nothing came close to being right on the centimeter. 
Does anyone know where to measure to determine stem extension length and
how close to the "advertised" measurement it be?  Thanks in advance for
your assistance.

Eric
ei00+@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: don@island.COM (Don Hermes)
Subject: Re: Bicycling rising in popularity in U.S.
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 20:38:02 GMT

In article <1992Apr3.203315.24726@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> les@sail.stanford.edu (Les Earnest) writes:
>[From San Jose Mercury News, 2 April 1992.]
>
>More people are cycling than ever before, a Bicycling magazine/
>Lou Harris Poll shows.  The poll shows a 5% jump from 1990 to 1991 --
>42.8% of all Americans said they had ridden a bicycle at least once in
>1990, but 46% said they had in 1991.  The majority, 82%, said cycling
>was a form of recreation for them, while 7% said they used it for
>commuting to work.
>
>[I wonder what the other 11% thought they were doing.]

Those are REAL(tm) cyclists. You know, the kind that don't have
arguments with cars, they drop 'em.

I think it depends on how the question was worded. An interviewer
asking a cat IV, "Do you cycle recreationally ?" or "Do you cycle
as a hobby ?", is not going to get a postive answer. 

Seven Percent for commuting to work seems really encouraging though.
I would've guessed less. 

don
don@island.com



Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: Brad.Hedstrom@engr.UVic.CA (Brad  Hedstrom)
Subject: Re: can someone please explain my 18 gears?
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 22:59:10 GMT

I'm somewhat appalled that a bicycle dealer would sell you a bike and
not run over the basics with you. And your chain falling off? Sounds
like they didn't spend much time adjusting your drivetrain (and what
else maybe? the brakes?)

I'd consider taking the bike back and patronizing a more reputable
dealer.
--
___________________________________________________________________________
Brad Hedstrom                             |       Elec. & Comp. Engr. Dept.
Grad Student, Research Assistant, and     |          University of Victoria
Occasional Macintosh Consultant           |          Victoria, B.C., Canada
Internet: hedstrom@sirius.UVic.CA         |           (a.k.a. Brazil North)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: jwrlep@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (John Lepingwell )
Subject: Opinions on Spec. Sequoia?
Summary: Info on Specialized Sequoia
Keywords: Touring Specialized
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:50:17 GMT

I know that there was a general discussion of touring bike preferences
a week or so ago, but I have a more specific question.  A local dealer
has a 1991 Specialized Sequoia touring bike, regularly $939 on sale
for $649.  I'm wondering if anyone has any real experience with the
1991 model, or earlier versions.

The bike is well equipped: front, rear, low-rider racks.  Deore XT
crank (only up to 48, though), XT derailleurs, Modolo anatomic drop
bar, and Shimano brakes (forget which type).  It also has an
integrated generator, fender, and lighting system, great for
commuting.  Apparently Specialized has a bunch of them they want to
get rid of, perhaps because for some silly reason they've been
shipping them with flat bars!

This seems like a very good deal, although the original price seems
too high (no wonder Specialized has extras).  As for use, it will see
a lot of commuting, and once I find some free time I'll get back into
touring.  Any comments?


John Lepingwell
From: dahls@fhydra.dnet.unit.no (Joern Yngve Dahl-Stamnes)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: BICYCLE CRASHclo
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:48:19 GMT
Reply-To: dahls@fhydra.dnet.unit.no (Joern Yngve Dahl-Stamnes)
Organization: University of Trondheim, NORWAY

Thus spoke the keyboard of Joshua_Putnam:
>
>[stuff delete]
>
>"Furthermore, the production of bicycle frames and components is
>hereby recognized as an industry vital to the national defense.  The
>Department of Defense shall establish a Bicycle Research Group, whose
>goals shall include: (1) development of an all-weather chain lubricant
>that does not attract road grime or sand; (2) furhter miniaturization
>of bicycle computers to allow seamless integration into handlebar
>tape; (3) public testing of all new bicycle components, systems, and
>designs to prove or disprove claimed improvements.

Does that mean that there will be a DoD approved chain lub, DoD approved
freewheel, DoD approved .....? But I guess we in Europe will not be able
to get these parts because DoD will not allow export of the parts since
they [DoD] will look at them as millitary secrets ;-)

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From: dmlieber@jarthur.claremont.edu (Stu)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Indexin--------------------------. an old MtB
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:41:15 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Sfnder: Stu

I have a question all paose of you who are familiar with older Shimano
components.  One of my friends has a Schwinn MtB that's about 5 yearsLLld, and hof dots to upgrade some of the compontents.  More specifically,
he wants to put index shiftiout epn the bike in place of the original
friction shifting that came with the bike.  He would like to do this 
abl-ut having to replace the rear derrailuer.  The Path: teemc,illuer does not
give a model marking such as DX or XT, but here's what it does say.

                      Shimano
                      Light action shifting

It's all metal, unlike some of the currens components that use plastic.
He wov e to know if the current DX above bar shifters will work with thisl>cmpio mluer.  Thanks in advance fo
From: bhilden@stelvio.Eng.Sun.COM (Bruce Hildenbrand)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: pedaling efficency
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:52:00 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: stelvio

In article <1992Apr7.193610.21143@ico.isc.com>, bobb@ico.isc.com (Bob Bundy) writes:
> 
> I have been following the thread on pedaling efficiency (I have forgotten
> the initial Subject name) and happened to note a relevant article in this
> month's Velo News.  I apologize if this has been posted before, as I am an 
> infrequent reader of this group and may have missed it.
> 
> Lennard Zinnn has an article on finding an efficient bike position.
> He cites most of the commonly used formulas and describes the problems
> with each.  He also notes the oft-quoted advice of LeMond to pull up on
> the back of the pedal stroke.  Lennard, first of all, points out
> that this is probably not what LeMond does at all, given his foot 
> position at that point.  Furthermore, he cites a study by Dr. Edward
> Coyle at the University of Texas where it was found that the best time
> trialists pulled up less on the back stroke and delivered more
> peak power on the down stroke.
> 
> Bob Bundy

I think the most efficient pedalling style depends on the type of riding
you do.  If you are a time trialist or a triathelete, pounding a big
gear is probably the way to go.  However, if you are into fast group
riding, like racing in a pack, you will find that higher RPM(AKA
spinning a moderately large gear) is more efficient due to the
changes in tempo.

It is very common to see time trialists using their 12 and 13 tooth
cogs, but these same riders are more likely to be using a 13, 14 or 15
in a road race.

I think Lennard Zinn's study is, as usual, incomplete and poorly
designed(IMHO).

Bruce
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: armand@locus.com (                                            )
Subject: Re: Thule vs. Yak Rack
Keywords: roof-mounted bike racks
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 23:31:22 GMT

fastreac@ajpo.sei.cmu.edu (Danford Lehman) writes:

[Some deleted lamentations about fitting the rack...]
>
>   I have a gutterless (read, "hidden gutter") Subaru Legacy wagon
>(with some input from rec.autos etc.!).  I found installation to be
>frustratingly difficult--admittedly in part because I was anxious to
>

[More lamentations deleted....]

>   Also, Thule's system was nearly devoid of directions.  The egregious
>e.g. is their guide to *placement* of the rack-pillar supports:  the
>illustration was as effective and precise and helpful as hearing an
>adviser standing by a vehicle over 75 meters distant vaguely point
>towards the roof of the car and yell "They go up here!"--some help!
>The impression that I got, for my car, is that I must mount them above
>the doors, and not (as I'd like) more to the rear (there is a difference
>in the *give* of the rubber there.  One is referred to seek further
>guidance from carmakers about load (etc.)--something I'd like Thule to
>have done for me.

Thule makes it clear what type of load the rack carries (e.g. for my
rack lenght it is 150 lbs. maximum). They also make it clear the
minimum distance one should mount the two bars from each other (for
my rack size it is 75 cm).
I have seen many roof racks which are bent and sagging in, but I
don't think 3 or 4 bicycles can inflict such damage unless the user
is carrying 4 x 45 lbs bikes.

>
>   I don't mean to recommend against Thule, but rather to help provide a
>perspective for evaluating whatever offers are available.  Looking a bit
>further, one might find that either Yak or Thule or ... <BarreMaster?>
>has advantages in other accessories, for skiis, boats, luggage ($$$!)... .
>(If your local Becky's Bikes only carries Thule and you want to make her
>happy, choice isn't an issue.)

You only made it clear that YOU were unable to mount the rack easily.
Others may not suffer the same fate. For example I installed mine
rather easily. Of course this may be a function of car gutters and
rack design although my car (VW Golf) also has low profile gutters.
On hidden gutters that may be harder.

>
>   A final point:  so far as I have seen, there is no competition between
>these two firms for each others' accessories business--no "adaptor" kit to
>enable Thule bike racks to be mounted on a Yakima bar?  Is this really so?
>If so, what grot!

There is plenty of competition, especially on Yakima's part. Yakima
sells little adaptors, to help install Yakima bike, ski, boat carriers
on Thule racks. The adaptors cost $15 retail per pain and one needs
2 pairs to install a Yakima carrier on Thule racks. This pricing 
defies the advantage of buying less expensive Yakima carriers.

>
>---Dan
>------- *
>


Xref: sparky rec.bicycles:8720 rec.motorcycles:12315
From: hull@tegra.COM (Andy Hull)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BICYCLE CRASH
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:27:07 GMT
Organization: Tegra, Inc., Billerica, MA
In-reply-to: jackson@ponder.csci.unt.edu's message of 3 Apr 92 14:54:55 GMT


jackson@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Bruce Jackson(sysadm)) writes,

>> Roads were first built *FOR* bicycles.  We tolerate cars and motorcycles
>> since many people can not or will not learn to use the apropriate vehicle
>> :)

	  This is exactly the attitude of so many bicyclists have that
	really anger the rest of us.  You know where you can put the
	smiley because you haven't fooled anyone.  *THE* roads were in
	place long before there were any of your sacred *bicycles*.  The
	fact that *bicycles* are *supposed* to move to the right for
	faster traffic does not mean that they do.  When I was a small
	child I was taught to ride my *bicycle* on the side of the so
	that I wouldn't be killed.  This is someting that a lot of adults
	seem to have forgoten.  You exibit some of the "elitest snot"
	attitude that is prevailent amongst *bicyclists*.  You are no
	better than the rest of us and *you* have no more right to road
	than anyone else.  In addition your attitude sucks; get a life
		


Andy
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From: cm43+@andrew.cmu.edu (Christopher L. Morrow)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Potomac river crossings between D.C. and W.Va.
Date: 6 Apr 92 05:38:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sophomore, Chemical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I missed the previous posts on this subject, but I am interested in it
because I live in the DC area.  Is someone trying to get from Maryland
to DC,. or Maryland to VA?  Is it possible to take the WO&D trail from
Leesburg to DC, it crosses the Potomac, and has access to Leesburg.  Is
this for a pleasure ride, or for commuting?  If you send /post some more
info about what you want to do anwith this route, I can try and get a
look at a trail map or road map and see what can be done to work out th
eproblem.  BTW, 495 is not a solution, it's a problem, with all the
people trying to kill other drivers/truckers/and road signs it's
probably not the place to be on a bike.  Besides I think that it's
illegal to ride on 495 anyway.  I live about two miutes from the reston
Parkway, its one of those roads that I use to go anywhere that I have to
go, so let me know and I can try to see if I can help. (I live in Fox
Mill Estates for those in the area)
 besides a better way to get from 123 to Reston Parkway might be to take
teh WO&D trail from the area around the NOVA Cycle in vienna on main
street to the corner of the Reston Parkway and Sunset Hills Drive.  In
any case, let me know if I can help, I have lived in the area all my
life and am more than conversent in the road system around there.
--Chris
school: x4545
Home: 703-264-0058
cm43@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: king@reasoning.com (Dick King)
Subject: Do clipless pedals hold tenaciously in an accident?
Organization: Reasoning Systems, Inc., Palo Alto, CA
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:15:03 GMT


If you get thrown by something you can't react to [such as a chunk of metal
suddenly locking your front wheel] will the force release a clipless pedal? 

Does anyone have any anecdotes on this?

-dk
From: MEDELMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu (Michael Edelman)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Hints & parts needed for cross project
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:15:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: cms.167C29052.MEDELMA
Organization: Wayne State University

Some months ago I bought an old Raleigh Super Course for $20 to get
the unbroken-in Brooks saddle on it. Most of the parts went off to
my local bike mechanic, but I still had this frame. What to do? "Build
a cross bike", suggested aforesaid mechanic, so that's what I'm doing.
 
The bike is mostly straight-gauge Reynolds 531, sized for 27" wheels,
so there's plenty of cross bike clearance. Barry is going to braze on
cantilever brake bosses, and I'll be repainting it. The plan is a 46
sprocket up front and a 13-26 or thereabouts cluster in back, drop bars,
700x35 cross tires, and maybe a bar-end shifter.
 
Any other hints and suggestions? Old parts for sale that would be
suitible?
          --mike    medelma@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.autos.driving,ca.driving,rec.motorcycles
From: schinder@leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov (Paul J. Schinder)
Subject: Re: Car vs Cycle vs Bike vs Ped--The Main Point
Reply-To: schinder@leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 13:44:56 GMT

In <iusuiB1w164w@banana.ithaca.ny.us> chucks@banana.ithaca.ny.us (Chuck Schultz) writes:

>stgprao@xing.unocal.com (Richard Ottolini) writes:

>> In article <1992Apr5.072018.14154@cs.ucla.edu> coleman@rocky.cs.ucla.edu (Mik
>> >I'm not claiming that, say, bicyclists are better about obeying traffic laws
>> >than drivers.  Though I doubt it, maybe they are worse.  It's irrelevant.  T
>> 
>> Being both an avid driver and bicyclist I would say driver compliance with
>> laws is much higher than bicyclists, I'd say 90% to 25%, especially for basic
>> things like observing stop signs, staying on the correct side of the road,
>> having night lights on the vehicle.  Non-compliance of bicyclist mainly
>> hurts the bicyclist.  They appear in an unexpected place and are hit.  Sad.

>One of the biggest problems in city traffic is the law that says
>you must stay as far to the right as possible.

I believe the law as stated in the UVC says as far to the right as
*practical*, and gives several explicit and an implicit exception to
that guide.  You are not required to stay as far to the right as
*possible*.


>This creates a
>mindset in riders that they have to stay next to the curb, and
>drive around parked cars and other obstructions, such as drains,
>etc.

I doubt that most of the people you see ride this way actually know
what the law says.  They were told to ride this way by their
non-cycling mommys a long time ago, and never learned that this type
of riding increases their risks.

>Chuck Schultz (chucks@banana.ithaca.ny.us)     via:  The Twisted Banana BBS
--
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NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
schinder@leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov
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