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From: fath@mbcrr.dfci.harvard.edu (Michael Fath)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Ask DCI
Date: 18 Dec 1992 19:49:23 GMT
Organization: Dana-Farber Cancer Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: mbcrr.harvard.edu
Originator: fath@mbcrr


Here is a letter I am sending to DCI Today.  I will send it out next week.
Until then, I welcome feedback from people on the Net.  Thanks.

Ask DCI
P.O. Box 548
Lombard, IL  60148-0548

Dear Ask DCI,

	I have always been surprised that drum corps is basically unknown
to probably 99% of the American people.  I seems to me that there is so
much that could easily be done to promote the activity across North America
and yet another season has gone by without so much as a mention of drum
corps in the national news media.  Specifically, what type of publicity
(besides that PBS broadcast) does DCI put out to the "general public" 
during the marching season?
	Here are a few suggestions I have about easy and inexpensive ways
to promote the drum corps activity:
1. The best publicity occurs at the local level.  DCI should work hard to
coordinate publicity with member corps by contacting local television
stations and offering general drum corps information as well as video 
footage of the local corps' performance at regional and national competitions. 
This would improve the local interest and thus improve the corps' ability
to raise funds locally.
2. Make greater use of the boom in cable television.  There is no reason
why a half dozen regional contests could not be broadcast on a local
cable network or even on national cable channels such as the USA Network,
Lifetime or Disney.  Promote drum corps as a positive youth activity and
some cable stations are sure to be interested.
3. The best national exposure could come by convincing one of the network
morning shows such as Today or Good Morning America to produce a segment on
drum corps.  News is generally slow in the middle of August.  Ask the shows
to come to DCI Championship week and watch.  I bet they would be happy to
broadcast a ten minute feature.
	I, like many drum corps fans, would be glad to participate in letter
writing campaigns to local and national news networks to promote the activity.
But we look to DCI for leadership in this area.  Clearly, increased publicity 
would be a great help to the activity.  I hope that DCI will rise to such a
challenge and get one of the national morning shows to produce a feature on 
drum corps from Jackson, MS for the 1993 Championships.  
	Tell us who to call and write letters to and we will help -- but 
DCI has to lead.  Thank you.

Michael Fath







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M  M  M FFF     Harvard Medical School         
M     M F       Boston, MA 02115	Merry Christmas Everyone!
From: dawson@willard.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: A question.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 07:26:31 EST
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

fath@mbcrr.dfci.harvard.edu (Michael Fath) writes:

> Quick question:   Is there any alt.drumcorps reader that has not yet
> gotten access to rec.arts.marching.drumcorps?  It sounded like a few
> people had to actually change their .newsrc to get it but that they
> eventually could get it OK.  If there are still problems, please post 
> and we can try to help out.

Those of you lucky enough to be near or on the Internet probably have
fewer problems than those of us (yes, us) who lie farther down the heap.
I still don't get ram.drumcorps (neither here, at my home BBS, nor at
work).  Of course, I've not yet chased down the problems with my current
feeds... some of which have been notoriously bad for missing posts and
entire newsgroups in times past.

The answer is for us to seek a new newsfeed.

> 
> -- 
> MM   MM FFFFF 	Michael Fath		fath@mbcrr.harvard.edu
> M M M M F	Dept of Microbiology and Molecular Genetics
> M  M  M FFF     Harvard Medical School         
> M     M F       Boston, MA 02115	Merry Christmas Everyone!


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From: fath@mbcrr.dfci.harvard.edu (Michael Fath)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: A question.
Date: 16 Dec 1992 18:35:17 GMT
Organization: Dana-Farber Cancer Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: mbcrr.harvard.edu


Quick question:   Is there any alt.drumcorps reader that has not yet
gotten access to rec.arts.marching.drumcorps?  It sounded like a few
people had to actually change their .newsrc to get it but that they
eventually could get it OK.  If there are still problems, please post 
and we can try to help out.

-- 
MM   MM FFFFF 	Michael Fath		fath@mbcrr.harvard.edu
M M M M F	Dept of Microbiology and Molecular Genetics
M  M  M FFF     Harvard Medical School         
M     M F       Boston, MA 02115	Merry Christmas Everyone!
From: greg@antizen.EBay.Sun.COM
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Early DCI Scores 1972-1979
Date: 11 Dec 1992 21:56:32 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: greg@antizen.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: antizen.ebay.sun.com

>1 Vanguard               Santa Clara, CA    91.55

<sigh>

Greg



Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: dapack01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Popcorn Survey #2
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:47:29 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

Popcorn survey - part #2

I am not trying to minimize the importance of audience appeal and entertainment
value.  The audience buys tickets and ticket sales keeps this art-form viable. 
In evaluating the overall effectiveness of each corps, objectivity should be
the primary goal in the judging process.  How objective can the audience be in
judging drum corps?  Leave the evaluation process in the hands of the qualified
judges who have professional expertise in providing objective results.

Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: knights@IASTATE.EDU (Andrew H Combites)
Subject: Re: Spirit
Reply-To: knights@IASTATE.EDU (Andrew H Combites)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:59:37 GMT

In article <Bz2yo4.I9I@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, rdorocke@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
(rob lawrence dorocke) writes:
> In article <1992Dec10.223822.1@acad.drake.edu> drm002@acad.drake.edu (Dave R.
Muhich) writes:
> Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
> >
> >	I have a question. Could someone please tell me if the Spirit of
> >America Honor Band is worth the $3000+? I am a candidate this year and I
> >want to go, but if it's not worth it, then I don't want to pay the money.
> >How's the level of the drumline? Is it tough? I'd appreciate any replies.
> >Thanks.
> >
> >						Dave R. Muhich
> >						drm002@acad.drake.edu
> 
> 
> 
> I was a candidate my freshman year in high school.  I don't know what that 
> says about the band, but I think they get a huge list of band folks
> and send the info to them.  
> 
> 
> Anyone Else get the info early in high school??
> 
> Rob Dorocke
> (rdorocke@ucs.indiana.edu)
> 
> 
I have been getting stuff since I was Freshman in a very small high school with
a so-so band.  I am now a sophomore in college and I still get the stuff.  I
noticed that Michael Cesario is with them this year, though.

Later
Andy
Cavaliers '92-'94
From: niel@cars.com (Niel Bornstein)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Shows for 1993 - Cadets...
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 10:09:08 EDT
Organization: Heavy Objects R Us
Reply-To: chinchilla!niel@cars.com
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <1992Dec9.081605.24540@sei.cmu.edu> (alt.drumcorps), jp@sei.cmu.edu (John Phillips) writes:
>Also, if there are any 86 Spirit Alumni on the board, I would love to 
>know the words to the scat part in that cat is high from the 86 show.

I'll see if I can find out.  It didn't seem like they were really
saying anything, but you never know...

Niel

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Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: rlmiller@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Randall L. Miller)
Subject: Re: Tour stories and the BAC
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 05:38:03 EST

In article <sf7vWxW00Zk2M_fEYE@andrew.cmu.edu> "David E. Gardner" <dg4c+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>	I'm sorry to hear that the BAC is changing it's image.  My rookie year
>had an interesting run-in with the Crusaders.  I march with the
>Bluecoats, and '90 was my rookie year.  It was sometime in late June or
>early July, and we were in a DCE show in Philadelphia,  at the U of
>Pennsylvania.  We wre lined up in retreat block under the stadium.  By
>the quick of my drill number I got to be on the end of the block.  The
>rows in front of me had gone into single file, and my line didn't have
>room so I was sticking out as a corner. Along comes the BAC marching by
>in single file.  I felt a contra brush against me. The second and third
>contras hit me a little harder. The one after that  put a solid shoulder
>into me and my the time I was realizing what was happening, the last
>contra had passed.
>	Early August, Erie PA.  BAC contras lined up for retreat block,
>Bluecoats marching by in single file.  I purposely wandered out of the
>line "bumped" into the end contra before getting back into line.  I
>heard him swear and threaten me, but as we were marching around the
>track, the intervals between each Bluecoats was only a step or two. The
>BAC wsrunning about 3 - 5 yards between members.  The contra never
>caught up with me.  I felt lucky and excited at my "revenge."
>	Anyway, I just don't think it will be the same if the BAC don't do
>their psycho-corps-from-hell stuff like being nasty, mean and way too
>serious in general.  I'll certainly miss it, it was fun to watch.
>
>
>David, Bluecoat baritone line '90-'93

     I will certainly miss it too. I liked being serious at retreats.
     You should see us at parades around Boston :) I love being on the end.         

     Randy
     BAC 91-???
     We contras like to have fun! 

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From: cj@eno.esd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives,alt.drugs,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Leary, Manson, Kleps and other questions...
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:57:17 GMT
Organization: SGI TechPubs


In article <1992Dec15.184141.24040@linus.mitre.org>, lewis@aera8700.mitre.org writes:
|In article <tjrdnt8@zola.esd.sgi.com>, cj@eno.esd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio) writes:
|>Timothy Leary's dead.
|>since no one else said it

|Yeah C.J., we old farts have all heard the tune.  But you forgot the smiley
|for all the young ravers out there.

Only two of them have sent me email, informing poor misled me
that Dr Leary is really still alive.  So maybe the ravers are
aware of culture that existed before they did.

---
cj@eno.esd.sgi.com      C J Silverio/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720
``Is it really true that strychnine typically contains small traces 
of LSD?  I want to poison somebody but I wouldn't want them to die
tripping.'' -- John C. Baez
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives,alt.drugs,talk.bizarre
From: dnm9@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (David Neal Messina)
Subject: Re: Leary ::RECENT SIGHTING
Reply-To: dnm9@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (David Neal Messina)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 12:22:54 GMT

Tim "neuron-deficient" Leary was recently hired by a student group here at
Columbia.  The idea is that you decorate the student center with trip
toys (a room covered in tin foil, laser lights, etc.), play
exceedingly loud music, and charge people who are baked or tripping to
come, dance, and stare at each other.  Anyway, Tim Leary read some of
his poetry at the event for, I guess, added weirdness. Plus, he did go
to Columbia; I live in the same dorm he and Kerouac used to.
David
dnm9@columbia.edu
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives,alt.drugs,talk.bizarre
From: lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: Leary : : RECENT SIGHTING
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 11:44:26 GMT

Leary is on the well, but I don't know his e-mail.  Apparently rumor has
it that he comes up here to Seattle and hangs out in the VR lab sometimes...

If anyone listening out there does know his e-mail could you forward this
request to him:  Have him drop me a line, I'm part of a student group
that would sponsor him for a talk. 

-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu
  "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
                                      -- Robert Anton Wilson
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives,alt.drugs,talk.bizarre
From: cavrak@emba-news.uvm.edu.UUCP (Steve Cavrak)
Subject: Re: Leary : : RECENT SIGHTING
Originator: cavrak@newton.emba.uvm.edu
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:41:46 GMT

From article <1992Dec13.213904.11439@news.columbia.edu>, by dnm9@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (David Neal Messina):
 
	Steve, it was more of a play off of his penchant for
	psychoactive drugs--he very well might still have a
	brain.  The Watergate guy is G.  Gordon Liddy, and the
	story is this: every year he and Leary travel to a
	college campus and debate each other on whatever the
	audience is interested in.  This year's was at
	Northwestern or Loyola in Chicago.  Two of my friends
	went, and were somewhat disappointed with Tim, but in
	any case...they've been doing this for about a decade,
	and I find the juxtaposition of these guys rather
	humorous.  Now, if only we could get David Lynch and
	Curtis Sliwa together.

Thanks -- all those Republicans look alike.

Yes, it is a regular road show. Maybe the cold weather in
Vermont warmed them up a bit. Maybe NBC should get Liddy and
CBS Leary. 

----------------------------------------------------------------

Still looking for Leary's software company. His "MindMirror" for
the PC was actually a pretty interesting piece of software. 

Ciao
Steve
From: ebenami@igc.apc.org (Etan Ben-Ami)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
Subject: Re: Leary : : RECENT SIGHTING
Date: 15 Dec 92 06:11:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:1992Dec14.004146.18070@uvm.edu:1154996196:cdp:1519500009:000:374
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!ebenami    Dec 14 22:11:00 1992


I seem to remember MindMirror was put out by Electronic Arts.  I
don't know if it's still available.  At the time (7 or 8 years
ago) EAC was hyping a guest celebrity series of games.  BTW
MindMirror was based on the Leary Personality Inventory, which 
he developed some time before he tried on the "High Priest" mantle.
-- Etan Ben-Ami
   another alienated Columbia Alumnus
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
From: ladasky@netcom.com (John J. Ladasky II)
Subject: Re: Psilocybe side effects
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 05:45:15 GMT

s.mathers@trl.oz.au writes:
>In article <Bz265u.p0@csn.org>, richardf@teal.csn.org (Richard Forbin) writes:
>|> I have a question I hope someone here can answer-
>|> 
>|> A couple of times that I have eaten Psilocybe mushroomss I have noticed 
>|> that when I stand up suddenly or have been standing for awhile, I get
>|> EXTREMELY light-headed, and my vision clouds up, and I have actually
>|> fallen down fainting. But most of the time this doesn't  happen. Could
>|> it be a combination with alcahol orr THC???? Has anyone else noticed this 
>|> or have any input???
>
>This happens to me sometimes when I  am sober.  I think its just the
>blood rushing up or down or something when you stand up quickly.
>Perhaps you are more susceptable to this sort of thing when you are
>tripping because of raised blood pressure or something.

	Just so you know - a doctor told me that the dizzy feeling one
experiences when standing up quickly is a consequence of lowered blood
pressure in the brain, and that people who possess naturally-low blood
pressure are more likely to experience this sensation.  If I remember
correctly, alcohol tends to dilate blood vessels (symptom : your skin
becomes warm and red), so your blood, occupying a somewhat large volume,
would tend to have a lower pressure.

	No ideas about the physiological effects of mushrooms, though.

-- 
== John J. Ladasky II ("ii") ========================= ladasky@netcom.COM ==
"Great composers do not borrow -	     "Talking about music is like
 they steal."  - John Ladasky	      ~ -     dancing about architecture."
(quote stolen from Stravinsky, who    o o     - Elvis Costello?  Laurie
 stole it from a statement made by     >        Anderson?  Frank Zappa?
 Pablo Picasso about painting, who    \_/    -------------------------------
 stole it from...)			     "Property is theft." - Groucho
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From: jaskew@spam.ua.oz (Joseph Askew)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives,alt.drugs,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Leary, Manson, Kleps and other questions...
Summary: He's out there somewhere
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:27:38 GMT
Organization: Statistics, Pure & Applied Mathematics, University of Adelaide

In article <tl557as@zola.esd.sgi.com> cj@eno.esd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio) writes:

>In article <1992Dec15.184141.24040@linus.mitre.org>, lewis@aera8700.mitre.org writes:

>|In article <tjrdnt8@zola.esd.sgi.com>, cj@eno.esd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio) writes:

>|>Timothy Leary's dead.

>Only two of them have sent me email, informing poor misled me
>that Dr Leary is really still alive.  So maybe the ravers are
>aware of culture that existed before they did.

Not only is Dr Leary still alive - he is on the Net! Did he send you some
mail personally? I have no idea what his address is and I have never heard
nor seen any sign of him but I have heard that he is out there somewhere.
Maybe this is another Urban legend :-)


Joseph Askew


-- 
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jaskew@spam.maths.adelaide.edu  Paler than water lies the Thistle Pass;
Disclaimer? Sue, see if I care  Sky swallows up the road to Kokonor;
One China One Korea One Eire32  Moonlight, a thousand miles along the Wall.
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives,alt.drugs,talk.bizarre
From: mathers@sibelius.trl.OZ.AU (Steven Mathers)
Subject: Re: Leary, Manson, Kleps and other questions...
Reply-To: s.mathers@trl.oz.au
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:37:49 GMT

In article <tl557as@zola.esd.sgi.com>, cj@eno.esd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio) writes:
|> 
|> In article <1992Dec15.184141.24040@linus.mitre.org>, lewis@aera8700.mitre.org writes:
|> |In article <tjrdnt8@zola.esd.sgi.com>, cj@eno.esd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio) writes:
|> |>Timothy Leary's dead.
|> |>since no one else said it
|> 
|> |Yeah C.J., we old farts have all heard the tune.  But you forgot the smiley
|> |for all the young ravers out there.
|> 
|> Only two of them have sent me email, informing poor misled me
|> that Dr Leary is really still alive.  So maybe the ravers are
|> aware of culture that existed before they did.

Bullshit!  We invented sex, drugs and rock'n'roll!
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives,alt.drugs,talk.bizarre
From: cj@eno.esd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio)
Subject: Re: Leary, Manson, Kleps and other questions...
Followup-To: talk.bizarre
Reply-To: cj@sgi.com
Organization: SGI TechPubs
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 23:12:47 GMT


In article <1gep30INN54c@tamsun.tamu.edu>, bpb9204@tamsun.tamu.edu writes:
|Who is Tim Leary?  

Timothy Leary's dead.

---
C J Silverio	cj@sgi.com	ceej@well.sf.ca.us
since no one else said it
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From: bpb9204@tamsun.tamu.edu (Brent Burton)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives,alt.drugs,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Leary, Manson, Kleps and other questions...
Date: 18 Dec 1992 21:42:04 -0600
Organization: Texas A&M Univ., Inc.
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamsun.tamu.edu

whitmeye@den.mmc.com (Richard Whitmeyer) writes:
|
|Charlie? That jerk is the flaw in my view to abolish capital punishment.
|Can't see any reason not to search for the lethal dose of LSD using that
|fucker.
|[...]
|
|Brent, go to the library, use the books found there.

Well Rich,  I didn't want to look at some boring diatribe on the
idiot, I just wanted a quick synopsis. 

I'm not *that* interested.

-Brent
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| Brent Burton    N5VMG   |    
| bpb9204@tamsun.tamu.edu |  
+-------------------------+
From: andyj@phoebe.loni.ucla.edu
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
Subject: Pemoline, any generics or options?
Date: 15 Dec 92 02:42:19 GMT
Reply-To: afj@anes.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Dept. of Pharmacology, Los Angeles, CA

I recently got an inquiry from a sufferer of mild narcolepsy about
the drug Pemoline. It seems the stuff is mighty expensive, coming to about
$100 or so a month. She was wondering if there were any generics, or similar
acting agents (amphetamine like without amphetamine structure) available
for narcolepsy. I haven't been able to find anything really for narcolepsy
except maybe mazindol, and fencamfamin (which is not available in the US).
Any ideas about prescription drugs in the US or Mexico?
Thanks,
A.J.

-- 


-Andy Jacobson  <andyj@phoebe.loni.ucla.edu>

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From: bpb9204@tamsun.tamu.edu (Brent Burton)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives,alt.drugs,talk.bizarre
Subject: Leary, Manson, Kleps and other questions...
Date: 13 Dec 1992 01:34:56 -0600
Organization: Texas A&M Univ., Inc.
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamsun.tamu.edu


OK, I have to ask.

Through the years (I'm 23) I've heard Charles Manson mentioned here
and there in the news, I've seen pictures of him, and I even have a
flyer of his contianing two letters he wrote (one to prez Reagan in '86).
This flyer is titled, "Charles Manson: Drugs, Power and Sanity" and on
the back there is a logo with address for:
  Universal Order
  P.O Box 17
  Chillicothe, Ohio 45601

What all has Charles manson tried to do? Is he still alive? 
If he is, what is he doing?

Another person I have a question about is Tim Leary.  I've seen his
name in various places, mostly with the bizarre.  He has a preface
in my printed edition of Principia Discordia and he also wrote some in
the book, "The Boo Hoo Bible."  The BH Bible is the book of the
Neo-American Church Catechism (Written by Art Kleps in '64, printed in '71,
review by Tim Leary).  Who is Tim Leary?  I've seen his name mentioned
recently in the "Massive doses of LSD..." thread.  What'd he do, or what's
he doing now? 

What about Art Kleps, who's he?  Has he written anything else?  And are
these people halfway serious about the Neo-American church?  Did they
create it solely for the legal use of psychedelic substances? 
(In other "church" materials you can really pick out the satire, but
this book has something "else" about it - that's why I'm asking).

As you can see, I've been collecting a few of the wonderfully weird printed
items.  Great stuff.  What are some other titles of related stuff?
(Of course, there's all of Ivan Stang's stuff.)

Please email me all responses.

-- 
+-------------------------+
| Brent Burton    N5VMG   |    
| bpb9204@tamsun.tamu.edu |  
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