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From: alaw@elaine9.Stanford.EDU (Alvin Law)
Subject: Re: ABC's coverage on Patten (Re: Patten's speech)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University
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Date: 12 Oct 92 10:58:49


yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan) writes:
>>soc.culture.hongkong / eln235s@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr H Hui) /  6:17 am  Oct 11, 1992 /
>>From the program, I have the impression that the presentor stressed very
>>much on a term "so-called Basic Law" from the mouth of Patten. That's
>>really amusing. I really doubt what is Patten's attitude towards the
>>"so-called Basic Law".
>I think that is added by the TV. I don't think Patten would use the word
>"so called"

If Patten did use the phrase "so-called", I think PRC's comments would
be much more furious...

>>>Martin Lee's comment: disappointment that Legco members cannot be Exco
>>>members is a step backward for democracy.
>>Thus, is it that no one from the democratic party be appointed Exco
>>member?
>If someone from Logco be appointed to Exco, the UD must has someone there.
>How can Patten appoint CRC members, who has no elector support.

It is not Patten who appointed CRC members to the Exco; as a matter of
fact, about a week ago, Patten *ASKED* the CRC members to resign from
the Exco.  Only Rita Fan did.

From the list of the appointed, most are from the business and academic
sectors; two are current Legco members who were appointed by Patten
about two months ago.

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Subject: Re: Acts of love
From: johnny@futon.SFSU.EDU (Johnny Y. Chow)
Date: 8 Oct 92 10:22:24 PDT
Organization: San Francisco State University

In article <1992Oct8.124658.5698@gw.wmich.edu> 31he@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>	| Iam interested, can anyone(esp girls) second this theory?
>your best to care the one but do not just want to get something, if you love
>one, always give and don't think of taking. It it could be yours then be
>patient and cherish, if it does not, then accept...
>
>I wish this could help Peter too. Ask yourself, what do you want actually? If
>she doesn't talk to you, why kept bothering her? Try to be a common friend,
>call her once or twice a month, let her know you will always be  there if she
>needs, let her know that you want her to be happy no matter  what it takes...
>And see...
>
>Cindy

Agree. Just wondering if this could happens on girls as well ...


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: sslok@srv.PacBell.COM (Sam Lok)
Subject: Re: Search a way to give birth to a son?
Keywords: method, son
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:03:06 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.194549.2398@ttinews.tti.com> yao@perform1.tti.com (Yuhan Yao) writes:
>too much".  The chance of getting a girl at every single birth is 50%,

Mmmm.  Is it really?  I'm not bio major and correct me if I'm wrong, but I
thought:
1. male creates 3 times more X sperms than Y sperms.
2. X sperms are faster swimmer
3. Y sperms are more likely be killed than X sperms depending on the PH
   balance of the female vaginal passage.  The PH issue is more of a
   concern with women above the age of 30.

So, I always think the chances of having girls is more than a simple 50%.
Of course, what do I know.  I've got two fabulous boys and will miss the
lifetime opportunity of walking down the isle with "daddy's little girl",
sigh!
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: cosc180f@rosie.uh.edu (92F06810)
Subject: Re: Exotic Cars
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:32:00 GMT

In article <Bvz8oB.Jz1@scd.hp.com>, klui@corp.hp.com (Kenneth K.F. Lui) writes...
>In article <1992Oct9.213623.16382@menudo.uh.edu> cosc180f@rosie.uh.edu (92F06810) writes:
>>	Let's start a topic about exotic CARS!
> 
>I got a chance to drive a friend's Pantera several years ago.
>If I remember correctly:
> 
>	It was very loud
>	I couldn't hear the driver or passenger talk when
>		it idled at <1000rpm(at 1500rpm, it was more
>		comfortable)
>	Lots of torque
>	It was fast
>	When my friend drives it, he goes from 1st to 3rd--
>		no need for 2nd at all
>	Nice brakes
>	Shifter is in a racing pattern (1st is doglegged
>		while 2nd through 5th is in the H pattern)
>	Shifter was very stiff
>	Clutch was heavy
>	Pedals are skewed to the center of the car because of
>		the front wheelwells
>	No dead pedal
>	There were knobs and sliders that felt '70-ish
>	Chrome was used to accent a lot of the interior
>	We paid a lot of attention to the car's temperature
>	Car was a show car and you could literally eat off of
>		the engine
>	Headlights poped up very slowly
>	Car handled well
>	Windshield was made with relatively soft glass and had
>		some nicks from rocks
>	Didn't even pay attention to the side and rearview
>		mirrors
>	Painted in eye-catching yellow
>	Definitely a weekend car
> 
>He recently sold it and talks/jokes about getting an NSX.
> 
>I drive a '91 MR2 Turbo, and although the MR2 doesn't have the
>mystique of the Pantera, it's less brutish and more "practical,"
>relatively speaking, than the P-car.  The P-car will most likely
>beat my 2 in acceleration, but I think my car will handle a
>little better--too bad I won't be able to find out for sure.
>Hey, if he gets his NSX and I make lots of mods on my Mr. Two...
> 
> 
>Ken


Ken,
	Is Pantera the car used in "Back To The Future"?  I don't really know 
anything about this car?  Where is it made?  Can you tell me the specifications 
of it such as the how many c.c the engine has or stuff like that. 

Tony Chan, cosc180f@jetson.uh.edu
From: rkwst+@pitt.edu (Raymond K Wong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: real singers
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:21:42 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


A good voice doesn't necessarily a good singer make.  

It's the emotion, the charm, the techniques, the image, the versatility,
the messages, the heart, the soul, the rhythm,........and of course, a good
face and/or body doesn't hurt.  Whether you like it or not, it's a fact that
a lot of people are attracted to a singer not simply by his/her songs and
singing abilities, but to a large part the appearance and sex appeals.  In the
U.S., you might have to throw in outrageousness and weirdness to be a superstar.

A good singer may just sing.  But it's the "performers" we are thinking about
and performers perform.   It's the whole work.  When I work with performers,
singers, musical actors and the like, it's very often to notice that many of
these people have great voices and they can really belt out a song, but they
lack the heart and soul to captivate the audience's heart.  Many of the 
greatest performers/singers do not have the voice, but they have the styles
and charisma that make people go wild.  

Ray
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From: yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 10:24:16 GMT
Subject: Re: HK Police's pistol
Organization: Hewlett-Packard ISG-SBU-PWD, UK.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong

No. HK polices are still using .38 but with a heavier barrel and new shoots.
So that they would have more stopping power while the speed is slower, so
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From: ins903u@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (***RAYSON WONG**)
Subject: Re: New Topic: Chinese Christians
Organization: Monash University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 11:20:12 GMT

Mr B.C. Tay (ins882e@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au) wrote:
: following the article I've sent, let's add something.....
: what is the point to discuss this topic anyway? It is just a waste of time ,
: right? 
: 
: \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
: see ya......dude......
: \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\i

I see that you are as confusing on text as in real life!! My comment to what
you said in your two articles is.....HUH?.......

 And even worse what is a chuckwood??
	
 Finally why is this topic a waste of time...What is your view of a "worthwhile" topic??? oh now....not girls again!! I think we have had enough exposure to
this issue in schk lately from babes in the gym to medical femme fatales
walking around HKUST!............GIMME MORE!!!!!!

	And remember a banana a day keeps the Bun Chew away!!!
From: ylam@fraser.sfu.ca (Yau Ha Elina Lam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Exotic Cars
Date: 10 Oct 92 02:24:35 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

cosc180f@rosie.uh.edu (92F06810) writes:

>	Let's start a topic about exotic CARS!  Any MAN who knows about cars, 
> owns an exotic car, seen exotic cars, please contribute your experience.  I  
> used to have a CRX HF.  Of course it is nothing like a Ferrari, but with a 
> 1500 c.c engine, it could go over 105 mph.
>	What are you driving there?  3000GT twin turbo? 300zx?  RX 7 twin turbo?
> OR a Ferrari?  

     My DREAM car is the Lotus Elan... 1.6 litre DOHC inline four with turbo
charge, 165 HP, 0-60mph time of 6.7 sec.  The fibreglass body weighs only 
2250lb.  It isn't the most powerful car in existent, but its design is so
beautiful and sensible... makes one think that adding or taking off of an
inch anywhere on the car would make it look less pretty.  I am just madly
in love with it!
     In all honesty, I am no big fan of cars.  I don't look at cars that
much, and don't know much about their internals at all (which I think is
atypical of boys... I just have too many other interests).  Normally
I treat cars only as a way to commute.  The Elan is the only exception.
I am totally crazy about it, and every time I drive by an exotic car rental
shop in my town I stop and walk to the shop to look at it for five minutes.
On one occasion (which was my first date with my dream girl) I rented the
car for a day to pick her up to dinner.  Yes, my dream girl in my dream 
car!!!  I have never driven another sports car so I can't make a comparison.
All I can say is that comparing to my lowly Jetta, the car is very powerful.
Acceleration and handling is incredible.
     When I first saw this car in June this year in Hong Kong, I was thinking
that I may be able to save enough money in a few years to buy it.  The price
of the car is about $42,000 US, which I think is grossly overpriced even though
the car is hand-built.  What I didn't know is that the car was already out of
production early in June, even before our first encounter.  I don't have 
enough money to buy it now, and in a few years the car would probably become
a collectible and I wouldn't be able to afford it (plus no warranty, no parts,
no nothing...).  Now all I have is a 1990 magazine review of it, and a few
photos of it (and my dream girl) to cherish...
     ...which I think is okay.

     Timothyy
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From: glo@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (George Lo)
Subject: Re: HK political groups
Organization: Oracle World HQ, Redwood Shores, California
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 01:36:30 GMT
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              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Oct16.173945.22890@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> tlai@csri.toronto.edu (Tony Fu-Keung Lai) writes:
>
>I don't mind to change. But a change should be step by step, not all
>at once.
>
But LegCo has had indirect election for many years, and that's why
the next step should be direct election.  The former government
promised to have it in '88 or '89 (Can anyone verify it) but it
was postponed already.  I don't see a sudden jump.
HK has been having aristocracy for too long.  And that's why poor
people are not well taken care of.
From: so@cobol.cs.psu.edu (Nicol C So)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Search a way to give birth to a son?
Keywords: method, son
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:20:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.Bw4r9J.5tn
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

In article <1992Oct14.210306.15156@PacBell.COM> sslok@srv.PacBell.COM (Sam Lok) writes:
>In article <1992Oct14.194549.2398@ttinews.tti.com> yao@perform1.tti.com (Yuhan Yao) writes:
>>too much".  The chance of getting a girl at every single birth is 50%,
>
>Mmmm.  Is it really?  I'm not bio major and correct me if I'm wrong, but I
>thought:
>1. male creates 3 times more X sperms than Y sperms.
>2. X sperms are faster swimmer
>3. Y sperms are more likely be killed than X sperms depending on the PH
>   balance of the female vaginal passage.  The PH issue is more of a
>   concern with women above the age of 30.
>
>So, I always think the chances of having girls is more than a simple 50%.

For all I know, (1) and (2) of the above are false, while (3) is true.
As for the claim that the chance of having a girl is greater than 50%,
this is not true.  I think this can be verified by statistics.

Disclaimer: I pull the above information off my head, without looking up
any references, so accuracy is not guaranteed.
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From: john@jho.com (John Ho)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: How to translate "bone air" into English?
Date: 11 Oct 92 13:27:48 GMT
Organization: Software Programming, Inc., Dallas, Texas USA

eln235s@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr H Hui) writes:

>Hello,
>I adopted the literal translation from Cheng Dan Shiu some year ago.

>Anyway, I wonder if such concept exists in English. Here is some
>suggestions.
>1. dignity (not exact)
>2. spineless (read from a local paper, with inverted comma)

>Can anyone tell me how to translate this concept into English?

How about "principal"?
-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: eln235s@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr H Hui)
Subject: ABC's coverage on Patten (Re: Patten's speech)
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 05:17:46 GMT

albee@ahkcus.Eng.Sun.COM (Dennis Lee) writes:

Yesterday, ABC here in Melbourne had a quite long report (20minutes) in
the program "Foreign Correspondence".

In the whole program, they concentrated on the political issues related
to the new governor; and his would-be clashes with PRC. However, their
main interest lied on the politics between China, Hongkong and UK. 

Thus, they included report like this :
>This was denounced by the News China News Agency as "irresponsible and
>reckless", as a constitutional change without prior consultation with
>China, to which Patten politely rebuffed that China did the same earlier
>when she tried to affect Exco membership without consultation with
>Britian.

From the program, I have the impression that the presentor stressed very
much on a term "so-called Basic Law" from the mouth of Patten. That's
really amusing. I really doubt what is Patten's attitude towards the
"so-called Basic Law".

However, what I think is that the media (here in Aus) has no interest of
the welfare and development of HK. In fact, I found the program
promoting Hongkong as a political unstable city.

Thus, it is really nice to read the following from the net:

>Education: to put 2~3 more teachers in each primary and secondary
>Welfare: to have 21% real growth in fund annually.  Elderly monthly
>Housing: to build ~100 flats each day until 1997, to have an extra 13000
>Environment: to spend hk$7B on solid waste treatment, from government;
>Finance: the exchange rate pegged to the US dollar will remain.  The

In fact, as a mid-class to-be, I would worry very much on the "housing"
problem. Where on earth can't a mid-class afford a decent flat!

I reckon while keeping(? achieving) high(er) degree of freedom is
important; the real important factors are the economic power of the city
and the living standard of the people.

>Martin Lee's comment: disappointment that Legco members cannot be Exco
>members is a step backward for democracy.
Thus, is it that no one from the democratic party be appointed Exco
member?

>Joseph Cheng's comment: Patten has already exploited all the grey areas
>left in the Basic Law to push democracy.
He is always good in choosing wax for shoes.:-)

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From: ctyau@cucs11.cs.cuhk.hk (Yau Chor Tung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: ooOO dOG AND GOd OOoo
Keywords: dog god
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:06:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: cucs5.1992Oct16.030634.4082
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong

ecuzq@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr B H Y Tseng) writes:

>>Can God draw a 2-D circle such that pi is not equal to 3.14159....,  maybe
>>equal to 3? that is more convenient if we can use integer.

>Same as asking God to draw a squared circle. A "circle" which pi does not
>equal to 3.14159 is not a circle.

Then you mean pi = 3.14159... is a universal truth, even in front of
the all-mighty God.  God cannot change this truth.  God is also limited
then.

I do not think asking God to change pi's value is the same as asking
him to draw a squared circle.  Can you show him a squared circle first
so that he can draw it?  If pi's value must not be changed, it means
there are rules in the universe that are irrelevent to God's existence.
Why don't we treat the rules as God so that we need not seek help from
religion?

Ah Tung
C.U.H.K.
 
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From: eln235s@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr H Hui)
Subject: Re: New Topic: Chinese Christians
Organization: Monash University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 08:53:39 GMT

teresa cheung (tcheung@cc.uow.edu.au) wrote:
: Does anyone want to comment on why some
: Hong Kong students when they study overseas
: become Christians and join "Chinese Christian
: Fellowships"
: 
: Comments?
At least 2 reasons :
1. Such religious groups are fast track to get contact with people when
   being alone overseas.
2. Alone sometime => lonely and bored.

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Subject: ATTENTION: pckyip@athena.mit.edu
From: Mary Y. Tsang <MTSHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Wednesday, 7 Oct 1992 12:39:58 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

Hi Patrick,
    I attempted to email you with the e-mail address pckyip@athena.mit.edu
in the header but failed.  If you read this messge, please give me an
e-mail address that I can forward mail to you.  Thanks.

Mary          mtshc@cunyvm.cuny.edu
              mtshc@cunyvm

p.s.  Sorry Folks for posting a personal message on the net!
From: eln235s@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr H Hui)
Subject: Re: New Topic: Chinese Christians
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 12:41:33 GMT

tcheung@cc.uow.edu.au (teresa cheung) writes:

>eln235s@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr H Hui) writes:

>>teresa cheung (tcheung@cc.uow.edu.au) wrote:
>>: Does anyone want to comment on why some
>>: Hong Kong students when they study overseas
>>: become Christians and join "Chinese Christian
>>: Fellowships"
>>: 
>>: Comments?
>>At least 2 reasons :
>>1. Such religious groups are fast track to get contact with people when
>>   being alone overseas.
>>2. Alone sometime => lonely and bored.

>Yes, two very common reasons.  But if you one is not Christian, 
>how can they stand the stuff that they are talking about 
>(some of the topics are so unrealistic, how can one pretend to swallow it.)  
>Secondly, don't the people suspect that you are there only to meet people.  
>Or do you meet people who are only semi-serious about Christianity and 
>are there to meet people too.

Yes, I agree. Therefore, I have never gone to any fellowship since I
arrived here. I am too stubbon in religion.

However, I reckon such religious groups really (at least here in my uni)
are efficient in getting to know the new (overseas) students. When I've
just arrived here, people of some the groups really looked for the
freshmen and tried to know them. Their outreaching attitude in getting
to know the freshmen, apparently, makes the religious groups a fast track
to get contact. (outsider's view)

For the 2nd point, living in such a foreign place, I have more time to
think about what is in front of me, esp., when I am facing some
difficulties. I think this would happen to many on the net. as
compared with when I was in HK, chance that a question like "What
is religion to me?" coming up to my mind is higher. In fact, I think 
most people feel better with their religions help clear such difficult 
questions and keep going.

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From: chuan@stein.u.washington.edu (Chuan Lee)
Subject: Re: ooOO dOG AND GOd OOoo
Keywords: dog god
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 23:37:49 GMT

In article <BvzGnK.BFC@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> ylnwai@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Newton Wai) writes:
>	Second, the above is a very classicial argument. But my question is :
>	If God can/cannot create a mass that he can't lift up, what effect does
>it have on my dayily living? IMHO, the above is just a game of words.
>	BTW, for those of you who are interested, I think there  are many books
>out there discussing both sides of the above argument.

No one knows what God can or can't do.  If it is a classical argument,
it must be a very bad one.

Chuan Lee
U of Washington, Seattle.
What am I doing here?  I try a make a point on something that is pointless.
From: wud@acf5.NYU.EDU (David C. Wu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Wang Tsu Hsien (Wong Cho Yin)
Date: 12 Oct 92 03:51:57 GMT
Organization: New York University, New York

> given, she is a good-looking actress, but she cant really act.  all she has
> going for her is her looks and long hair.  what i mean by outdated is that
> she has too many of the same type of roles, like she always spins her head
> and her hair flies in her facew.  come on, how many times have you seen
> this?  it was cool for the first three or four movies, but after about ten
> of them, it gets boring

I think part of the problem is that those directors really did not know
how to use her effectively in their films other than to exploit her
looks.  I was under the impression that Wong is not a good actress, but
after carefully studying some of her films, I think she has pretty good
potential.  She did a fine job in Clara Law's "reincarnation of golden
lotus".  IMO, she did a good job in the original Chinese Ghost Story.

I wish her well in her film career.

-Dave