HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: st10t@rosie.uh.edu (Bloo Square)
Subject: Re: escher, tunnel, etc.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: alt
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 21:04:00 GMT

In article <KINGPIN.92Aug23131846@world.std.com>, kingpin@world.std.com (Joe Smooth) writes...
>I just have to say that the escher.gif tunnel.gif and the other .gif (of the
>girls face) stereograms were AMAZING! I like these a lot better than the
>random dots, because there is an image before you even un-focus your eyes..
> 

Where can these be found?  And how do you view them.
Which software (gifdesk?) and what technique of using your eyes?

thanks.
Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: you <you@then.and.there>
Subject: test message - ignore
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X-Xxdate: Fri, 28 Aug 92 17:37:12 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:26:30 GMT

just testing the system out
Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: drascic@ie.utoronto.ca (SpIke)
Subject: Re: How do I generate the two views for a 3d image (LCD glasses)
Organization: University of Toronto, Department of Industrial Engineering
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:10:06 GMT

halazar@media.mit.edu (Michael Halle) writes:

>"stereo window" is a term used to describe the plane of space where
>the viewing frusta of the two stereo taking cameras overlap.  The term
             ^^^^^^ What does this mean?  (Is it a typo?)
>can also be applied analogously to the stereo projection geometry.
>For non-shifted, parallel-axis camera, the stereo window is located at
>infinity.

Sorry if I'm being dense, but I'm not sure I follow.  From the way Fred
Wilson was talking, I got the impression that by "stereo window" he meant
the location on the viewing surface (monitor, I guess) of the left and right
eye images.

From what I glean from Michael's description, he is referring to what some
people call the "convergence plane" (which is rarely a plane) in the "camera
space", where the real objects (or computer-based virtual ones) exist.

Other people I've read have used "stereo window" to refer to that part of
the "image space" (the location in space in which the user perceives the
images to exist) in which the user can comfortably fuse the left and right
eye images.

>The terms of stereography are historically vague and ambiguous, so it
>is very difficult to use terms in a way that will mean the same thing to
>everybody without constantly having to define them.

Yeah, fer sure, which is why people really must constantly define their
terms if they expect people to understand them, eh?  The worst lot are
military people and IBMites, all of whom seem to believe that their
acronyms and jargon actually mean something, and aren't just little
short-forms that they have developed to make life easier for them and
harder for others.  Then they get offended or think you stupid if you
ask them to explain what they said!  I don't think Fred works for
either of these, so I expect he'll be a lot more reasonable. :-)

Some terms I find useful that I lifted from Andrew Woods' Masters thesis
are:

OBJECT SPACE: the space in which the real (or computer-based graphical)
objects exist.

CAMERA SPACE: the subset of OBJECT SPACE in the view of the real (or
computer-based) cameras.

DISPLAY SURFACE: the monitor surface on which video or graphics images
appear, or the page on which stereo pictures or photographics exist.

IMAGE SPACE: the volume in space in which the image of the objects appears.

The IMAGE SPACE is a function of the location of the DISPLAY SURFACE, the
viewer, the separation of the viewer's eyes, the stereoscopic viewing
technique employed, the position on the viewing surface of the left and
right eye images, the disparity (parallax differences) between the left and
right eye images, the configuration of the cameras (or camera models for
graphics) and so on.

	SpIke.

David Drascic
Dept of Industrial Enginering
University of Toronto
drascic@ie.utoronto.ca
From: rick@tekig1.PEN.TEK.COM (Fredrick Wilson)
Newsgroups: alt.3d
Subject: Re: original stuff
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:23:55 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.


It looks like there was a secret truth in this poem.
Marcin is trying to tell us something.
Cross your eyes and read the highlighted message.
(It's the lowlighted message if you parallel view it.)


>soft and silent                   >soft and silent                   
>echos                             > echos                             
>mimick the reality's              >mimick the reality's              
>voice                             >voice                             
>promisses unfulfilled             >promisses unfulfilled             
>pain and the funeral              >pain and the funeral              
>of my desire                      >of my desire                      
>rain of misunderstanding,         >rain of misunderstanding,         
>ilove  moisture of                >i love moisture of                
>any kind                          >any kind                          
>                                  >                                  
>her face wasa blank wall          >her face was a blank wall         
>of deep fear                      >of deep fear                      
>& life was in her eyes w/ hope    >& life was in her eyes w/ hope    
>she smiled sadly.                 >she smiled sadly.                 
>                                  >                                  
>       Marcin z.                  >       Marcin z.                  
                                                                      

Hang those pictures!

      Rick   Wilson             Rick Wilson       Cross-eyed STEREO
      --------------           --------------
     |       O      |         |      O       |
     |    O         |         |     O        |    rick@sable.pen.tek.com
     |              |         |              |    Tektronix
     \    _     O   |         |\    _  O     |    Beaverton, Orygun
     |\  /      _   |         | \  /   _     |
     | \/   \  /    |         |  \/\  /      | 
      --------------           --------------      
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From: daver@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Ruby)
Subject: Re: Frank's the best! (was Re: Leave em lost)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:12:07 GMT

davidl@ssd.intel.com (David Levine) writes:

>I've been wondering for some time... why "TV's Frank"?  I thought he was
>just "Frank"...

That's what it says in the credits:  TV's Frank


David Ruby                                 daver@uiuc.edu   
Lincoln Hall Network Administrator         University of Illinois
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From:  (JLoC)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
Subject: Re: Best Brains and the Internet
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:51:03 GMT
Followup-To: alt.tv.mst3k
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada


  ... or maybe they just have something *better to do than frolic in the
net all day ...
From: donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
Subject: Re: DEEP HURTING!! How to break Joel and the Bots
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:10:20 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: none

In article <Sep.2.17.06.26.1992.16373@pilot.njin.net> langbein@pilot.njin.net (John Langbein) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.140218@IASTATE.EDU> wehumble@IASTATE.EDU (Ed Humble) writes:
>
>> 	Captain America!   No, not the TV series, the 1989 movie that was deemed
>> unreleasable and barely made it to video.  The movie with horrible acting, an
>> abysmal script, a dotted plot line, and YES! Billy Mummy.  (That's 'Mumy', I
>> happen to be a fan.)  
>> 
>> 	I'm talking Castle of Fu Manchu bad, but with all the horror in FOCUS!
>> (Shudder)  Joel and Co. will be screaming "When Will It End!" in the first half
>> hour, but no, it will go on for almost two hours of crushing badness.  
>
>Child's Play! That's nothing compared to what I deem the worst ever...
>Mondo Trasho! We are talking so bad, that during the 'worst movie
>festival', half of the people left (after suffering through a lemon
>and Don 'no-soul' Simmons) after the second reel. Everytime a reel
>ended, there was a standing ovation, followed by HIDEOUS SCREAMS OF
>TERROR when the movie continued. It was SHEER AGONY! It even included
>a parody of scenes from other movies, and IT JUST WASN'T FUNNY, even
>with some people adding comments, like myself. (pre-MST days) They
>will be shouting 'When Will It Start so it can END ALREADY!!!!' within
>15 minutes... Guarenteed.
>
>WARNING: THIS MOVIE MAY CAUSE PERMANENT BRAIN DAMAGE, AS WELL AS
>SEISURES AND STROKES DO TO THE PAIN INVOLVED IN WATCHING.
>
>I don't think even Joel and the Bots could survive. I mean, it's so
>bad, it could take out Dr. Forrester and Frank if they try to observe
>them during the movie. They will scream "OH THE PAIN! THE PAIN!!!"
>
>My stomach is turning as I type. Excuse me, I need to go throw up...
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Wuss! Obviously the wrong crowd. "Mondo Trasho" was the first feature length
effort by Baltimore filmmaker John Waters. I have seen it three times at
film festivals, and observed none of these reactions. It does have his
usual cast <Divine, Mink Stole, David Lochary, Mary Vivian Pearce, etc...>,
and a typical early Waters story. Big deal. I suggest you avoid some of his
other early works, mainly "Pink Flamingoes", "Multiple Maniacs", 
"Female Trouble", and "Desperate Living". 
You might have a bit of fun with his more recent work: Hairspray, Cry Baby,
and Polyester. He is an acquired taste, but hardly the worst.
Try watching "Bloodsucking Freaks" sometime, but keep a puke bucket
nearby. And I am not talking about Gore...

					--Judex--
From: donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
Subject: Re: That Wiley Wienstien
Date: 27 Aug 92 00:48:28 GMT
Organization: none

In article <1992Aug26.185552.21924@novell.com> jeffg@novell.com (Jeff Gallagher) writes:
>In article <BtLnKF.JK4@world.std.com> dmb@world.std.com (Deborah M Brown) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug26.052957.10066@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> wljohnso@nyx.cs.du.edu (William "Wes" Johnson) writes:
>>
>>>Okay sure while Josh might have been the creator of the ever lovable Tom
>>>Servo, he really was not as funny or talented as Kevin Murphy.  And I
>>>think Frank is a funnier and more fun 'mad scientist'.
>>
>>My only exposure to Weinstein is through the clips shown on Short Attention 
>>Span Theater, so I'm probably not qualified to comment.  Just from the little
>>bit I've heard of Weinstein's Servo I didn't like him at all.  I recently
>>saw a clip from Commander Cody and the Moon Men, and not only did I not
>>think Weinstein was funny, I could see wehre I could take an active dislike
>>of him.
> 
>[stuff deleted]
>
>>>Murphy doing Tom Servo makes Tom the chatming big hearted (and
>>>occasionally mean) singing happy bot that we all love.  Sure its been said
>>>before...but I agreed then too.
>>
>>I totally agree!  I can't picture anyone else as Tom Servo, that sweet
>>little crybaby! :-D
>>
>*****
>Wow. You folks sure know how to make a guy feel old.  I've been a fan of
>MST3K since show #1 (on the Comedy CHANNEL), and have watched the changes
>in the show with glee ever since.  
>
>For me, it was a *big time* adjustment hearing Murphy's voice at the 
>beginning of season two. I mean, it just wasn't TOM!  Josh!  Baby!  Where 
>are ya?  And when Joel lifted the milk carton with his face on it, well, 
>I knew the old glory days were gone forever...
>
>Of course, I've happily and completely adjusted to Murphy's Servo -- ok ok
>ok -- it took a whole season.  Different strengths, different weaknesses;
>but "better" or "worse" Toms?  Hmmm... I think not.
>
>Frank *is* the button.
>Josh *is* Tom Servo.  
>
>I miss him.  Anybody out there know what he's up to these days, anyway?
>
>jeff
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________
>
>	      Ok.  Fine.  No problem.  You got it.  Piece o' cake. 

I think Kevin is a fine Servo. But I watched the show through the early days 
on KTMA, and it was a bit of an adjustment for me to get used to Kevin's
style. Josh set the tone, and Kevin ran with it. I'm glad that he worked out 
well, but I still miss Josh. Josh wrote for the comedy central game show
"Clash", and does stand up comedy around the Twin Cities area. 
He didn't seenm to appreciate the cries of "Servo", that I spontaneously
uttered during his show.
ah well, Kevin does a great job.

					--Judex--
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
From: visser@convex.com (Lance Visser)
Subject: Re: Hercules vs. the Moon Men
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:17:30 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Aug26.135325.17273@access.digex.com> mheney@access.digex.com (Michael K. Heney) writes:

+>Deep Hurting!    Deep Hurting!

+>Anyone else catch Servo's comment "It is bassoon!" early in the movie?
+>Am I mistaken, or is this a reference to an F-Troop episode where the
+>plot(?) revolves around a hot-air ballon, with the climax(?) being a
+>scene with the chief pointing in the air, exclaiming "It is balloon!",
+>the firing upon it with arrows (and Our Heros are riding the balloon,
+>dontcha know ...)

	The reference is currently more to a commercial that nick at night
ran for f-troop over the past few months.  The commerical just basically
has the cheif pointing in the air exclaiming "It is balloon".  I think they
have this reference a few times in the past as well.
From: brian_vickers@isd.jpl.nasa.gov (Brian Vickers)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
Subject: Re: mst3k QT mooV's
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:10:56 GMT
Followup-To: alt.tv.mst3k
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory

In article <1992Sep2.220532.10388@ultb.isc.rit.edu>,
sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Scott J. Kleper) wrote:
> 
> I'd be interested in digitizing some mst3k QT mooV's, but I'd like to
> know what the copyright laws are on this. For example, IS IT LEGAL?!
> I'd like to make a movie of the countdown to the movie, and perhaps the
> opening sequence. I also need to know how to upload to an ftp site.
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> -Scott J. Kleper

These would be GREAT! You could probably post them to the
alt.binaries.pictures.misc newsgroup, or the "official" MST3K FTP site,
syrinx.umd.edu.

-- Brian
brian_vickers@isd.jpl.nasa.gov
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From: dmb@world.std.com (Deborah M Brown)
Subject: Re: Worst Movie (IMO)
Keywords: Bad movies, we're soaking in it
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:28:25 GMT

"Soaking"?  I'd say WALLOWING!  And loving every second of it. :-)

In article <1992Aug25.185532.15102@husc3.harvard.edu> mduhan@husc10.harvard.edu (Matthew Duhan) writes:
>  Well, I finally had a chance to see Castle of Fu Man Chu which I taped
>last weekend.  I have to say, bleah!  But I am sticking with my original
>opinion that Being from Another Planet was worse, for several reasons.

I think CoFMC was released on a dare.  NOBODY could be that fried that they
would think that this strip of celluloid even qualified as toilet paper, 
much less a movie people would be expected to pay to see.

>  First- Yes, CoFMC was BAD, but it got to a point where it was so bad
>that it went beyond bad, to downright absurd.  I mean, I began cracking
>up when, about 45 min. into the movie the timing was so bad that there was
>three shots, in a row, of the EXACT same thing, and each was different.

Tomorrow morning I plan to give in to my self-loathing and watch this again.
Friday night, I was holding my breath that the cable wouldn't melt down during
the movie so I missed most of it (which no doubt explains my current good
health).

>  BFAP tried to be a real movie, although b-grade at that.  I'm not sure
>what CoFMC was, but it couldn't have been intended to be a serious movie.
>(or if it did, then everyone remotely involved should be hastily executed)
>  Part of my influence is due to the fact that I actually saw BFAP, as
>TimeWalker.  Perhaps I hold some resentment that I was duped into thinking
>that it was a real movie, or even a decent one.  Ehh, could be...

At least BFAP had something resembling a plot.  Not much of a resemblance, 
but it could be followed.

>Well, that's my opinion.  Flames welcome.

No flames, I'm waiting for something even worse than these two to come around.
:-)

>PS- When I finally realized the plot (FuManChu's, not the movie's) 3/4 of the
>way through, I noticed an incredible similarity to Ice-9, from Vonnegut's
>Cat's Cradle.  Enyone else? 

That's the first thing I thought of when I heard the phrase 'freeze the 
Earth's oceans' in the first five minutes.  I remember thinking SOMEBODY 
who worked on that film knows how to read, 'cause Vonnegut thought of it 
first.  Wait, did this come out before or after Mr. V wrote Cat's Cradle?

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From: v122kzkw@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (A FROOD WHO SURE KNOWS WHERE HIS TOWEL IS)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
Subject: Re: Catch-Phrase Catalog v1.0
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:11:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep3.174131.5524@rei.com>, fox@rei.com (Fuzzy Fox) writes...
> 
>"Is this bugging you?  I'm not touching you.  Does this bug you?"
> 
>from:  ????
Greetings.
Hmm. Maybe you don't have a brother or sister and have never gone on a
family vacation.
I think this is also one of those generic things (like the "Jello" bit).
If you do have a sibling and have gone on vacation in the family car, you'd
know that riding in the back of a car for some zillion odd miles gets boring.
Everyone eventually gets slightly on edge. Sometimes fights break out in the
back of the car. The father (usually driving) will yell out: "Do I have to
stop the car and get back there" or some equivalent idle threat. Mother will
tell the son or daughter to stop hitting/touching each other. That's when the 
troublemaker will move their fingers/hands in front of the other sibling 
without touching them. Usually accompanied by the question:
"Does this bug you? I'm not touching you."
I've gone on family vacations. You don't want to know me after I'm back from a
family vacation.
I have a younger brother. 
He's a pain in the <insert anatomical part here>
T.

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From: langbein@pilot.njin.net (John Langbein)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
Subject: Mystery Science Theater 3000
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:46:20 GMT
Organization: Information Builders, Inc.


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From: dmb@world.std.com (Deborah M Brown)
Subject: Re: Best Brains and the Internet
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:39:35 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.185103.16604@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> (JLoC) writes:
>
>  ... or maybe they just have something *better to do than frolic in the
>net all day ...

As long as that "something better" is making new episodes of MST3K they can
be excused. :-)

-- 
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From: jordan@castor.cs.uga.edu (Chuck Jordan)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
Subject: Re: Catch-Phrase Catalog v1.0
Date: 1 Sep 92 06:12:56 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Aug31.162949.10350@ils.nwu.edu> chaput@ils.nwu.edu (Cliff Chaput) writes:
>Keep 'em coming.

Monkey love pile on me!

>"Football practice!" - ???

I thought this wasn't from any movie or show in particular, just from
life.  They also said "Oh, no, I'm late for graduation!" a few times as
well.

>"It's hot and it hurts and stuff." - Band-Aid commercial?

No big deal, but I think it's from a Bactine commercial.

>"I will harm you!" - random Abbott and Costello movie

They did a whole sketch on this guy -- Joe Besser.  His other line that
they use every once in a while is "I'm going to give you such a pinch!"

I'd also add "I'm a Grimwald Warrior!" from Viking Women and the Sea
Serpent, as well as "Jim Henson's _______ babies."  And,  "Tonight,
on a very special _________ (Trapper John, MD)" or "Mannix!  In Color!"

Deal with it, skanky boy!
Chuck
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