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From: hvu@bcarh729.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Guna Goo Goo)
Subject: Parental Responsabilities
Organization: Bell Northern Research
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:53:43 GMT

Hello good netters,

Late one night this week a few of my dearest friends and I
were discussing moon and the stars when we tripped
upon the subject of social hierarchy.  Some very interesting
ideas were put forth to be debated further.

Here is the seed of the discussion:

Facts:
- Members of the majority in our society hold the balance of
  economic and political power.
- Members of the majority in our society are considered to be
  the standard for beauty.
- Children belonging to the majority have an 'easier' childhood:
  They are not picked on as often in school.
  They have an easier time finding friends.
  They don't have to concern themselves with racism.
- Young adults belonging to the majority find better jobs
  with less difficulty.
- Young adults belonging to the majority find mates with
  less difficulty.
- Young adults belonging to the majority will move readily
  into higher positions as they mature.

More facts:
- Parents have the responsability of providing for the welfare
  of their offsprings, giving them every benefit they can give
  in order for them to have a better chance of survival.

Hypothesis:
- Adults belonging to the minority groups tend to seek to mate
  with members of the majority in order to generate offsprings
  with attributes of the majority. In so doing, they are
  giving their offsprings an easier time to mature and a better
  chance to succeed in life.

Some arguments heard:
- Love should be the prime objective of coupling.
- Love will provide the best benefits for offsprings.
- Couples don't think about offsprings when they have relationships.
- Define majority, minority blah blah blah
- 
So on and so on

I would like to hear some of your inputs with regards to the stated
hypothesis. We should try to transcend the urge to be politically
correct in order to be completely objective and analytical.

%D
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From: chao6@husc11.harvard.edu (James Chao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: World Model United Nations Conference in Czechoslovakia
Date: 21 Dec 92 05:12:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Dec21.001207.18728
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

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United Nations: 

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WorldMUN 1993 will take place at the Hotel Diplomat in Prague,
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James Chao
chao6@husc.harvard.edu
From: xerxes@midiline.la.ca.us (Keith Chiem)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: What is...
Date: 21 Dec 92 00:19:44 GMT
Organization: MIDILine BBS - Altadena, CA - (818) 797-3285

I've just joined this newsgroup and I would like to know what xxx-ge and
xxx-cu mean.

-----
xerxes@midiline.la.ca.us (Keith Chiem) 
MIDILine BBS (midiline.la.ca.us) - Altadena CA - (818)797-3285
From: (defenso libertatis)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: Asian males aren't attractive? (was Re
Date: 11 Dec 1992 19:06:22 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: train.ebay.sun.com

In article r@mentor.cc.purdue.edu, cogsdell@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (tony c) writes:
> Could this have somthing to do with (RACEism) in America?
> 
> ....Because black men were slaves to white men?
> 
> ....Because black men have less opportunites to obtain wealth in Amerikkka? 
> 
> 
> Suggestions?          
> 
> 
> Thanks!                                  Tony L. Cogdell

Tony,

Funny you should ask that question too! I also never seem
to get a reak answer when I ask certain people why they date
this or that group. Did you read my post (kinda long I admit)
number 17395?

In it I spoke about a question I asked a certain asian females:

"Was race EVER a factor in your decision to date a white guy? 
If not, why didn't you date a black guy or Latino if race
was not really an issue?"

Many times I get an answer like "Oh...I would date a guy
if he were the right one even if his color were purple
or green..."

This is hardly a substantive answer to my question and begs
the question of "But why white? Why not black or Latino?"

-M. Aurelius Insularum 






Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american,soc.culture.african.american,alt.politics.clinton
From: gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang)
Subject: Re: The Clinton Cabinet
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:29:50 GMT

In article <BzGJ4x.KK2@newcastle.ac.uk> T.K.Hara@newcastle.ac.uk (T.K. Hara) writes:
>
>CAN SOMEBODY SAY HOW AMERICAN, THE ASIAN-AMERICANS ARE ?

	Very.

 WHEN DID THEY EMIGRATE 
>TO AMERICA?

	Asian American immigration has been documented as early as the 17th
Century. Big rushes in the mid 1850s and 1900s.

 TO WHAT EXTENT HAVE THEY INTERACTED WITH OTHER ETHNIC GROUPS IN 
>AMERICA, FOR EXAMPLE IN MARRIAGE ETC.

	Far too much for the DAMs here (Desperate Asian Males).

	Outmarriage rates are as high as 60-70%.


>THE DEFINITION OF ASIAN-AMERICAN IS 'RATHER GENERAL' IN A WAY AS WELL (IF YOU 
>COMPARE TO WHO IS CALLED AFRICAN-AMERICAN).  
>IT WOULD ALSO BE WORTHWHILE TO HAVE THE PERCENTAGE OF THE INDIGINOUS 
>'ASIA-AMERICANS' IN AMERICA.

	40-50%; higher in certain areas.

-- 
Roger Tang, gwangung@u.washington.edu
Producer Emeritus, Asian Theatre at the UW
	"The definition of balls is for a non-singer to go karaoke singing
with the cast of a musical revue."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: rpark@stam.QE.Bell.CA (Richard Park)
Subject: Re: Asian males aren't attractive? (was Re: OFWM....)
Reply-To: rpark@stam.bell.ca
Organization: CER, Bell Canada
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:44:33 GMT

|> In article <berthiau.724015487@iros1> you write:
|> >As for my parents, they don't mind us girls dating Caucasian 
|> 
|> >men as long as we don't date African-American men (don't ask me

What about the other nationalities such as south american, indian, etc...???
I thought it was caucasian prefered over any other non-asian race.

|>                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> >why) and that my brother find himself a nice Chinese girl.  Of

-- 
Richard Park	
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: sieh@panix.com (Lui Sieh)
Subject: Re: Asian males aren't attractive?  (was Re: OFWM....)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:10:38 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <1992Dec9.004533.12773@hspice.portal.com> georgew@hspice.portal.com
>(George Wu) writes:
>In article <1992Dec8.021023.4992@panix.com> sieh@panix.com (Lui Sieh) writes:
>>That underlying question still remains, "What if being ourselves only 
>>strengthens those very impressions we hate?"
>[much needed net.levity deleted]
>
>     Seriously, sometimes that's the way it goes.  If I really like something,
>to Hell with what everyone else thinks.  There are plenty of other ways to
>counter stereotypes anyways.

This is a positive attitude that I know many Asian American men have problems
implementing it in their daily lives.  I was like Chris Chan not too long ago
(relatively speaking of course :-)) and I even posted some of the same kinds
of sentiments he has, way back when.  

The major difficulty at that time among my fellow male friends was being
optimistic and being positive about things.  It's more difficult when there
are no examples that any of us could draw upon as inspiration.  It becomes
a vicious cycle and self perpetuating.  Seeing how the world is often "ME",
breaking out of self-destructive behavior sometimes requires counseling and
a lot of positive reinforcement.  In every bad situation, there is always 
something positive.  Seeing that aspect is the hard part.  It is unfortunate
that sometimes very intelligent people have problems keeping things in that
proper perspective--but it's human :-I.

-- 
[signature presently under new management.  Free rental 
space available here.  Please inquire.  sieh@panix.com]
From: gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: Asian American plays
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:15:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Dec15.161557.7557
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1gj7j5INN1qn@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> ST701852@brownvm.brown.edu (Carole E MAh) writes:
>>OK...here's a question for anyone who knows of what AA plays
>>are out there.
>  How about David Henry Hwang's plays (M. Butterfly, for example).
>
>Then there is Frank Chin, who in my opinion is a jerk,

	You've met him, hmm? My sympathies....



-- 
Roger Tang, gwangung@u.washington.edu
Producer Emeritus, Asian Theatre at the UW
	"The definition of balls is for a non-singer to go karaoke singing
with the cast of a musical revue."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: watanabe@cs.uiuc.edu (Larry Watanabe)
Subject: Re: Update on fatal beating of Luyen Phan Nguyen 
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:02:58 GMT

davec@ECE.Concordia.CA (Dave Chu) writes:

>The following is just a summary of an article about the fatal beating
>of Luyen Phan Nguyen that happened this summer in Fort Lauderdale.  I
>though some people might be interested in the outcome of the trial.

>"Broward County circuit judge has ordered 19-year-old Bradley Mills to
>serve 50 YEARS in prison for sparking the fatal beating of Luyen Phan
>Nguyen.  Mills was convicted of second degree murder in October and 
>was stunned at the sentence.  He lurched forward in his chair and said

>"you might as well send me to the electric chair" after hearing the
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>sentence."

Hmmm ...

-Larry Watanabe watanabe@cs.uiuc.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: petaluma@leland.Stanford.EDU (Petaluma)
Subject: Re: Looking for Black woman
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 07:01:11 GMT

In article <Qf_6Ue_00iV200Z4lG@andrew.cmu.edu> Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Hi,
>
>        I am looking for a black woman to share cultures, going out and
>wine and dine and paint the town red a few times, study with and
>generally have a good time. Please! Only answer if you are the fun
>loving type and you like to eat.
>
>Thank you!
>
>P.S. And, a good student. Can't slow down ya'know!!! 

When did s.c.a.a. become a 2nd-rate pickup spot?

Albert
petaluma@leland.stanford.edu


-- 
Albert Chan 
Stanford University
petaluma@leland.stanford.edu
497-7490
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: wcheung@shearson.com (Wansan Cheung)
Subject: Re: A question of "loyalty" & this marriage th
Reply-To: wcheung@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 20:53:39 GMT

well, my parents are already on my case to get married to some "nice asian
girl" [notice the similarities to the jewish culture :) ] asap.
since they are of the traditional sort, the reasons include: carrying on the
family name, symbol of success, cultural pride, communication etc, etc, blah, 
blah.

i believe their, actually, my mother's exact words for not going out strictly 
with asian females were: we will disown you. :( i don't think my father is as
strict on that issue as my mother but who know ? just one of the reasons why 
i left home at an early age. looking back, i think i had just a little too much
pride and was quite pig headed. but i think i did alright for myself.

i don't know what their reaction might be nowadays. probably one of grudging
acceptance (i hope) because of what i did. in my opinion, everyone seeks their
family's approval on any issues and i no different. however, if i don't get it,
it is not the end of the world for me. its my life, i can ask for or get advice 
but that does not necessarily mean that i should follow it. i do have a mind
(sometimes) and i like to think that i can make responsible decisions on my
own. 

as far as family/so loyalty/love is concerned, i draw the line when someone tells
me who i can see or go out with. first of all, it is no one's business but one's
own. you will have to spend the rest of your life with that person and not your
parents. in such a case, you damn well going to have to make sure that your so
is someone you're compatable with.
---
-dave

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: rtang@sunee.uwaterloo.ca (The One Your Mother Warned You About!)
Subject: Re: MORE JOKES
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 09:36:04 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.213125.10431@almserv.uucp> g9utxu@fnma.COM writes:
>
>In article 1gilmaINNlpr@male.EBay.Sun.COM, kevinle@eb4ts1.EBay.Sun.COM (Kevin Le) writes:
>>Here's a little something you all might enjoy.  I believe this is 
>>an actual letter a mother had written to her son.
>>[funny letter deleted]
An actual letter, a joke to cheer up her son obviously.
I hope you're not implying that it was serious. If so, I'd like
to sell this lady something. ;)

RT 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: rtang@sunee.uwaterloo.ca (The One Your Mother Warned You About!)
Subject: Re: Looking for Black woman
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:01:11 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.172527.10949@almserv.uucp> g9utxu@fnma.COM writes:
>Why are you posting this in an Asian American group ? Why not a single group ? 
>I might have been more understanding if you were looking for an Asian American 
>female, which I must say am very attracted to, then I would've applaud your courage.
>

Ya, Riya's post seems out of place here. But if you look at it this way:
He's Asian and he's looking for an American woman who's black. Therefore
you combine the 2 and you get Asian American! IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW! :)

RT
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: ajh@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Alan Hu)
Subject: Re: eggrolls
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:23:57 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.232756.20999@ucc.su.OZ.AU> ta_k@maths.su.oz.au (The Alan Tam Fan) writes:
>HI,
>
>In article <1992Dec8.045711.16001@leland.Stanford.EDU>
>underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>
>>of beauty and attraction should be?  Someone's been smoking too many eggrolls.
>... [stuff deleted]
>>but works very well when one is dealing with eggroll smokers.
>
>What's an eggroll? Something like a springroll? If so I thought you ate them not
>smoked them :-) :-) :-).
>
>bye Katya
	[signature deleted.]

An eggroll is an evil Chinese-cu bastardization, resulting from childhood
abuse in cold, dark Chinese-cu homes, of the Filipino lumpia, which is
a far superior food product, having benefitted from the influences of
European-male-ge through Spanish occupation.  Chinese-cu/ge people,
of which Mr. Wilbur Pan is a prime example, frequently


Whoa!  Been having these recurring nightmares of thinking like Dwight... :-)
						--Alan Hu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: ks4816@albnyvms.bitnet ("Qu'est-ce que vous a cherchez...le bien par le mal...-Enigma")
Subject: Re: The Clinton Cabinet
Reply-To: ks4816@albnyvms.bitnet
Organization: University of NY at Albany
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 17:37:23 GMT

just for the record:
My question was a serious question and one that carries no hidden meanings...
No flames please...

-JS

(Finals have made me paranoid!!)

8^)

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: jl52800@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The Incredible Mr.Wong)
Subject: Racism in Tom and Jerry? You tell me....
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 09:06:41 GMT

I have been reading the posts on stereotypes and racism for a while now. Since
I've been up for about 40 hours now, I think I'll throw something out onto 
the net. 

The cartoon I'm talking about appears on the Tom and Jerry show, but is NOT
Tom and Jerry. The first time I saw the episode was at least 10 years ago.
At that point, it was uncut. The name of the episode was somthing like 'The
Maestro.' It had to do with a magic wand that got used as a conductor's stick.
The result was that a character went through many transformations. Some of the
transformations included racial stereotypes. The "Little Black Sambo" showed
up complete with big lips, big eyes, and white teeth. The "Chinaman" also made
an appearance with teh character in a robe with the sleeves together, wearing
a farmer's straw hat, and having squinty eyes and a Fu Manchu mustache. I saw
the same episode last year and noticed that the black stereotype was gone while
the chinese one remained. I figured that (generalization coming) black people
are more vocal when it comes to racial issues, and had protested or complained.
One more thing. Has anyone who reads Beetle Bailey noticed that corporal Yo's
eyes are no longer squinted shut? I don't know if they still give him the 
stereotypical japanese mindset tho....

Damn I need to sleep

Mr.Wong


Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: mlau@mothra.syr.EDU (Michael  Lau)
Subject: Oh no!  More Smilies!
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 12:58:48 EST

Now that we've started posting personals in s.c.a.a., I have another
file that may help you out - more smilies!  I don't remember where I
got this from so I can't give credit to the genius(es) who made them
up.

SLIGHT WARNING!!  This isn't for those of you that are sexually faint
of heart.  They are meant to be funny, but if you get offended easily,
press 'n' now.  I don't want to be reading mail into next week about
how I should be more careful what I send where.

:-)  -:      Smilie with an erection.

:-) 8  -     Female.

:-| 8( )-    Pregnant Female.

:-(   :-     Impotent (Or let down).

:-)   -8     Blue balls.

;-)  o===8   Braggart.

:-\  8o      After a cold shower.

;-)   ===8   Circumcised.

8-O  --*     Just before doubling over with pain.

:-)  -^-:    In need of some corrective surgery.

:-)  :-...   Taking a leak.

:-}  -oo-:   Taking matters into hand.

:-{  -__-:   After slamming the toilet seat.

:-o  ^^^^:   After zipping up fly too fast.


Now that we've seen them, let's learn how to use them:

>> Newsgroup: alt.singles, soc.culture.asian.americans
>>
>> Hi.  I'm new to this group.  I'm a very well endowed guy    ;-) o===8
>> and am looking for a girl with large hooters                :-) 8   -
>> to have wild, uninhibited sex with.                         :-0==8
>
> Look, mister, you obviously are just some desparate geek     :-)  -8
> trying to relieve yourself over the Usenet.  I'd hate to     :-O -oo-:
> think of what would happen if someone walked in on you.      :-{ ^^^^:
> In fact, you're probably just mastering the simplest tasks
> of managing your "manhood".               :-)  :-....   -->  :-{  -__-:

Eventually, of course, we could communicate entirely with these smilies,
and eliminate the bulky overhead of words, such as the following:

>>> Newsgroup: alt.singles, soc.culture.asian.american
>>>  :-) o===8  +  :-) 8  -  ?          (Proposition)
>>   :-o  -8   --> :-o -oo-: !          (Alternative suggestion)
>    :-o  --*                           (Ooh.  That hurt)

And, of course, Flames:

:-( :  -    (You call those breasts?  I've seen bigger lumps in oatmeal!)
:-0===8     (Oh yeah?  I bet that you...)
:-(   :-    (Not with you I don't!)

I hope that these smilies will lead to more open communications between
people on the Net.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 Michael Lau           | "The surest sign that intelligent life exists
                       |  elsewhere in the universe is that none of it
 mlau@mailbox.syr.edu  |  has contacted us."                   -Calvin
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: achin@math.tamu.edu (Andrew Chin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Just in time for Christmas....
Date: 17 Dec 1992 10:43:04 GMT
Organization: Dept of Mathematics, Texas A&M University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: math.tamu.edu
Originator: achin@math

Seen at Hasting's Books & Records, price $28.99:

Playboy's Oriental Massage Kit <tm>.

Includes oil, towel, and erotic video.  The cover of
the video is a soft-focus photo of a nude AF/CM couple
in which massage is not the depicted activity.

Anyone care to speculate on:
-- the target market for this product?
-- the number of units that will be sold?

Should we bother to register a complaint with Hasting's?
(I figure Playboy is a lost cause.)
.
-- 
Andrew Chin    Dept. of Math.    Texas A&M U.    College Station, TX 77843
achin@math.tamu.edu   Probably not TAMU's exact opinions.   (409) 845-0261
                * Fighting racism is not a special interest *
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