From: bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: To Each His/Her Own! (was GUI v. CLI stupidity
Date: 30 Sep 92 12:10:15 EDT
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

In article <dmeyers.717792888@mal-s2>, dmeyers@mal-s2.gatech.edu (Dave Meyers) writes:
> Jeez!  All you whining weenies just let this thread die!

We can start with you as the first whining weenie. <grin>

> Why the debate?  Just use what you like!  There is no reason to kick
> each other around just because the prefer a different interface for
> certain operations!  Gawd!  You all are just like screaming children!

If there's no room for debate, why have the internet? <grin>

Seriously, though, I believe this whole thread sprouted out of a discussion
that centered around certain non-Mac types bemoaning the lack of a CLI on
the Mac (which isn't true, CLIs are available). That discussion lead to
the discussion of CLIs versus other interfaces in general, on their own
merits.

> If you like GUI, use it.  If you like CLIs for some things, use that.

Agreed. I don't think anyone has suggested anyone change their habits.
"Liking" an interface is a subjective decision. The debate has centered around
justification of that subjective choice with incorrect objective 
rationalization. (eg "I like a CLI 'cause it's faster.")

> Oh, yeah.  This is a Mac newsgroup.  I sometimes forget that the
> uptight macintosh machines don't have a decent CLI widely available.
> (Don't suggest MPW, thank you.).

Just use MPW. Or A/UX. 

OPEN FLAME MODE ON --

I fail to understand why people will read a newsgroup, then loudly complain
about its contents. You have the power to change the contents of the news
you read, merely by careful selection of the groups you read. This *IS*
comp.sys.mac.advocacy. It is going to be populated with Macintosh advocates.
We are going to advocate the Macintosh as a general computing solution. We
think it is great. If you don't think so, fine. 

BUT DON'T GET ON THIS NEWSGROUP WHINING TO US THAT YOU CAN'T STAND OUR
OPINIONS. GO SOMEWHERE ELSE! GOOD RIDDANCE! SHEESH!

OPEN FLAME MODE OFF --

> Well, if you like GUIs alone, stick with your macs and let those of
> us who like CLIs for some things tell apple that we would really like
> to be able to use our prefered interface for things sometimes!

Posting to this newsgroup is not communicating with Apple. If you want
to communicate with Apple, I suggest you write a letter and post it
to John Sculley c/o Apple. Whining about a lack of a CLI (which isn't
true) here on the newsgroup won't do SQUAT to change Apple.

Use the right tool. In this case, the right tool is not comp.sys.mac.advocacy.

> Peace, friends, please!

Your message hardly promotes peace.

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