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From: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael D Kretzer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: Codeview with os/2 2.0 GA
Date: 17 Apr 92 02:58:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: uwm.1992Apr17.025853.26633
Reply-To: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Originator: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

From article <1992Apr16.180309.8404@atl.scscom.com>, by chris@atl.scscom.com (Chris Boaro):
> In <1992Apr14.230051.9923@uwm.edu> tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael D Kretzer) writes:
> 
>>Has anyone tried Microsoft C 7.0?  (I still haven't received any upgrade
>>information from C 6.0AX--does anyone know who I should contact?)  Is it
>>a 32-bit compiler?  I know that they say it won't support OS/2 2.0, but
>>is OS/2 1.x supported?  Can you compile 32-bit programs if you use the
>>IBM headers/libraries supplied in their toolkit?  How well does C 7.0
>>run under OS/2?
> 
> No, no, and no some more. C 7.0 won't run under OS/2, it won't compile
> 16 bit OS/2 programs, and it won't compile 32 bit OS/2 programs. Great
> support, huh?

I find this interesting, since MASM 6.0 (the latest version of their
Assembler), supports OS/2 2.0 quite well, and even mentions OS/2 2.x
programming techniques directly in the manual...*sigh*
From: peterf@vnet.ibm.com (Peter Forsberg)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 08:00:48 SWE
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: os/2 font programming
Reply-To: peterf@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Corporation
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0

In <9204071816.AA06161@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> "Pat Mueller" writes:
>You can get by with the OS/2 1.3 Programming Guide and the OS/2 1.3
>Programming Reference Vol 1.  I'm playing with a program now that
>generates metafiles with ATM font-ed text is them.  You need to do a
>WinInitialize() to create the hab, but after that you can get by with
>just Dev...() and Gpi...() calls, which means you don't need a window
>message queue, which means the program will run in text mode.  One
>gotcha is that to query the printer capabilities (clip regions for
>particular forms your printer supports), you need to figure out what
>printers and queues you have on your system.  You need to use Prf...()
>calls to determine this, and these require a message queue, so the
>program no longer runs in text mode.  I don't know anywhere else this
>stuff might be documented besides these two manuals (but there might be
>something somewhere).
>
>Patrick Mueller
>pmuellr@vnet.ibm.com
>Programming Systems, IBM Cary, NC  (919-469-7242)
>

Also, the latest number of IBM Personal Systems Developer had an article
on font programming written by Dave Reich, IBM Boca Raton. It should be
quite up to date. I think the number was called "Winter 1992".

Peter
--
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                                  d88-pfo@nada.kth.se        (alternate)
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
From: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael D Kretzer)
Subject: Re: writing apps in OS/2 2.0
Originator: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Reply-To: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 02:30:34 GMT

From article <92106.174619IO70935@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, by IO70935@MAINE.MAINE.EDU:
> I do a fair amount of development on DOS platforms and am attempting Windows
> development in the near future.  I was thumbing through my Microsoft 6.0
> manual(s) the other night and was reading about the OS/2 libs etcetera included
> with MSC 6.0.  My question is.......
> 
>      Is what is included in the MSC compiler sufficient for basic, protected
>      mode OS/2 development (I realize no PM stuff is included) -  If not,
>      what else will I need?????
> 
>      I guess what I am asking is what is the bare minimum software requirements
>      (based on MSC 6.0 or the DJGPP 32 bit port of GNU) for creating
>     protected mode apps in OS/2.

MSC 6.0 includes OS/2 1.2 libraries, but no documentation :-(  If you want
to create OS/2 apps with a 'bare minimum' system, you will need to purchase
the IBM OS/2 1.3 Toolkit and Information (which provides complete documentation
and OS/2 1.3 libraries).  Please be aware that MSC 6.0 is a 16-bit compiler,
so you won't be able to create 32-bit apps...however, the 16-bit apps run
just fine under OS/2 2.0 (plus you get backward compatibility with OS/2 1.3).
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
From: michael@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michael MacFarland)
Subject: Symantec/Zortech C++
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 02:48:30 GMT

Symantec/Zortech's OS/2 2.0 C++ compiler is very much alive.  They are
demonstrating it in the second IBM booth at Comdex.  For more information
on Comdex, see the post I made in os2.misc (Comdex -- Chicago, April 6).
-- 
mam
michael@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
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From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: I have some questions.. (nobody had answered)..
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 06:26:38 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

Bahri Bora BALI AG <OPRJ36@TREARN.BITNET> writes:
: Hello.. I have some questions..
: 
: 1. Is there a good text editor running under OS/2 1.3? If so,
:    how can I get it?
: 

Why 1.3?  And yes you can get Brief for OS/2.

: 2. Someone had told me that there is a paper documentation about
:    use of PM functions in REXX. If still so, how can I get it?
:    And I had heard that there is a help file named REXX.INF?
:    True? If so, can I get it? Of course, from where?

Don't think this is in place yet but it will probably be IBM's answer
to Visual Basic when available.  I saw it at Research two+ years ago.

: 
: 3. I hate COBOL but here, programmers want to write with
:    it. Do you have sample codes in COBOL/2, using
:    PM functions or OS/2 Service Calls? If so, *8) will
:    you send them to me?

Can't help.

: 
: 4. In these networks, with WHICH NODE/SITE sould I contact to
:    discuss something about IBM's FBSS/2?

??? FBSS/2 ???

: 5. Is it possible to develope Device Drivers for OS/2, by
:    programming in COBOL/2? Here, programmers are asking
:    about this.

There should be a special award given for this.  It would be like entering
a Greyhound bus in a Grand Prix.  Did you say programmers?  :-)  In truth
I have no idea.  But if it has an interface to C functions, probably.

: 
: Thank you for your interest.. Kind regards..
: 
: -Bahri Bora BALI
: 
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
From: terryfry@access.digex.com (Terry Fry)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: os/2 font programming
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:05:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: access.1992Apr7.180559.25576
Distribution: comp
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, Maryland USA

In article <1992Apr4.1481.2497@dosgate> "bradley grigor" <bradley.grigor@canrem.com> writes:
>I'd like to write an OS/2 utility that, among other things, can
>produce a printed report.  The program is intended to operate
>from the command line.  However, I'd like to incorporate ATM
>fonts directly into the printed report.  Does this involve PM
>programming?  Are there any books on the subject of OS/2 font
>programming (the Petzold book predates the inclusion of ATM fonts
>in OS/2 doesn't it?)?  Thanks for the help.
>

Sort of.  I think the way its done is you need to create a device context
and associate it with a printer instead of with a screen.
It can be done without "PM" but I don't know of any documentation
that describes it and I have never tried to get it to work.

The one application I wrote I was considering doing what you are trying
to do ended up a full PM app........
From: hpasanen@cs.hut.fi (Harri Pasanen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: OS/2 2.0 SoftSet for use with OS/2 1.3? (Question)
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:10:25 GMT
Distribution: comp.os.os2.programmer
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

Can I use the OS/2 2.0 SoftSet libs to target the existing v1.3 systems
in text mode (no  PM apps)?

Thanks,

Harri Pasanen
From: seg@Ingres.COM (scott e garfinkle)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: link386 not searching lib path for libraries???
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:41:13 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Ingres, an Ask Company

In article <TNT.92Apr7094853@netcom.com> tnt@netcom.com (Terry Turner) writes:
>link386 has suddenly stopped searching the lib path for libraries.

this has never happened to me.  check you LIB variable to make sure that
you don't have, for example, a colon (':') where you ought to have a
semicolonb (';').
	-scott e. garfinkle
	os/2 server development
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: OS/2 Trap Pop-up
Date: 16 Apr 92 02:53:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: midway.1992Apr16.025346.2542
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <6302@public.BTR.COM> car@public.BTR.COM (Carlos Rimola-Sarti  car@btr.com) writes:
>Most of you should be familiar with the "pop-up" screen that gets 
>displayed when OS/2 detects an exception (e.g. Trap D).  My question is,
>is there any way to disable these pop-ups?  The reason why I need this
>disabled is that I am running a group of applications on an unattended
>system (no keyboard or display).  In the unlikely (:-) case that one
>of the applications fails I would like to detect it and restart it the
>application.  I have the mechanism to detect/restart worked out.  The
>problem is that if the application fails due to an exception, OS/2 is
>now sitting there waiting for a keyboard press!

I believe the AUTOFAIL line in CONFIG.SYS does what you want.  Check
the online command reference for more information.
-- 
Timothy F. Sipples       Keeper of the OS/2 Frequently Asked Questions
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu  List, available via anonymous ftp from
Dept. of Economics       128.123.35.151, directory pub/os2/faq, or via
Univ. of Chicago  60637  netmail from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET.
From: choup@bionette.CGRB.ORST.EDU (Ping Chou -- Biochemistry and Biophysics)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: Mini OS/2 V2 System
Date: 7 Apr 92 06:27:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: talon.1992Apr7.062758.4538
Organization: Biological Computing Consortium, OSU, Corvallis, OR.

In article <9204060009.AA01886@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> KENKAHN@PKSMRVM.VNET.IBM.COM (Ken Kahn) writes:

        [how to creat a mini OS/2 2.0 system] deleted

>have to consider (e.g. *.BIO files and ABIOS.SYS for Family-2 machines)
>but I'll leave that to a future append.

       I have been abused by DOS for years, and I am ready to join the
       OS/2 camp now. But before that, ...

       1. Since OS/2 can do multitasking, will it be more efficient to
       run on a PS/2 machine, which has ABIOS, than on a PC? As I can
       recall, ABIOS interrupt services are multistage functions.

       2. Since OS/2 can run on either PC or PS/2, does it mean that
       OS/2 comes with both BIOS and ABIOS? The reason I think a copy
       of BIOS is needed is because a program running in a DOS box
       will eventually need some BIOS services.

       3. I plan to get a 386SL notebook exclusively for the OS/2, but
       does it known anything about 'power saving'? about LCD display?
       about [cache, memory, AT-bus] controllers of the SL chip?

       4. I plan NOT to use DOS or WINDOWS any more, so I will follow
       the mini OS/2 system. But what am I suppose to do programming,
       with assembly or C, on the system?

       5. If there is determinant answers for the questions above,
       should I get a PS/2 386SX notebook (IBM model ???) or PC 386SL
       notebook?

       So, any opion? Please post it, and thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
From: rod@philips.oz.au (Rod Roberts)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 07:32:05 GMT
Organization: Philips Public Telecommunications Systems, Melbourne, Australia
Subject: os/2 C++ & gui development tools
Summary: what C++ and gui deveopment tool are available for version 2.0 NOW
Keywords: C++ GUI

We are in the process of setting up a OS/2 devopment environment and are
looking for C++ and GUI development tools for version 2.0. There seems to be a
lot of Real-Soon-Now stuff out there but can any one tell me what is available
NOW or realistialy close to NOW. Has any in this group seen seen a list of
planned OS/2 2.0 apps and there expected availability dates. We are also
interested in NFS ( Network File System ) client software for OS/2 2.0 .

I would be most grateful to anyone out there in net-land for any infomation on
the above.

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From: gulcu@masg1.epfl.ch (Ceki Gulcu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: "Killing" child windows
Date: 11 Apr 92 20:05:42 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

Actually the workaround I was talking about does dont even work. If only say
two files are redundant and the client window has enough room to display 10
files then they are 8 (=10-2) checkboxes which  "hang" out in the open...

I really (desperately) need to to be able to kill child windows.

Help! Please?

GULCU Ceki
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: Building HELP with IPFC
From: Chris_Sullivan@kcbbs.gen.nz (Chris Sullivan)
Date: 17 Apr 92 12:32:39 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

Thanks for the advice Larry.

I've been advised that Conrad Bullock here in New Zealand is
sucessfully using the resource preprocessor RCPP.  Cnrad didn't
mention any problems like those you had with the MicrosoftC preprocessor.

Cheers.

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
From: jarman@ee.ualberta.ca (Andrew Jarman)
Subject: GNU C (EMX) and API calls
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 18:49:27 GMT

I downloaded the EMX and GNU C development tools (32 bit) for OS/2 and
the 32bit extender for DOS.  The DOS one seems to work fine (I don't have
2.0 yet) and the test programs seem to demonstrate the standard ANSI C
calls.  My question is: has anyone been able to use the GNU C tools to
develop WPS programs.  I've heard that a development package is available
(to students anyway ) for ~$120.  Is this true and has anyone tried to 
use this stuff with GNU.  What does the kit contain?

Thanks

-- 
/***************************************************************************\
|  Andrew Jarman                 |   Computer Engineering                   |
|  jarman@bode.ee.ualberta.ca    |   University of Alberta, Canada          |
\***************************************************************************/
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
From: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael D Kretzer)
Subject: Re: programmer's kit w/o the compiler?
Originator: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Reply-To: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 18:33:09 GMT

> I read that thet IBM programmer's kit is $119 (educational), but includes
> a compiler.      
> 
> Can people like me who have Watcom C/386 v.9 get it cheaper without the
> compiler, since we already have one?

Yes, order the IBM Developer's Toolkit for OS/2 2.0 (I don't have the
product number handy) $83 (educational) [are you SURE that the programmer's
kit that you were looking at included a C compiler?]).  It includes
the libraries, tools, and online documentation needed for 2.0 development.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
From: jrs@panix.com (Jon Saxton)
Subject: Re: ipmd: debugger question.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 02:48:54 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC


Another ipmd question:

Under CodeView I used the #4 command to set tab spacing to match what I
use in my editor.  Is there an equivalent under ipmd?  I'm sick of having
much of my code off to the right of the window because tabs are assumed to
be set at every 8 columns.  (Who on earth programs in C with tabs set to
8 anyway?)
-- 
===========================================
MSDOS on a '386 is a waste of good silicon.
Jon Saxton - jrs@panix.com
From: harris@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Michael Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: os/2 font programming
Date: 11 Apr 92 07:03:31 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: North Carolina State University


>In article <1992Apr4.1481.2497@dosgate> "bradley grigor" <bradley.grigor@canrem.com> writes:

>I'd like to write an OS/2 utility that, among other things, can
>produce a printed report.  The program is intended to operate
>from the command line.  However, I'd like to incorporate ATM
>fonts directly into the printed report.  Does this involve PM
>programming?  Are there any books on the subject of OS/2 font
>programming (the Petzold book predates the inclusion of ATM fonts
>in OS/2 doesn't it?)?  Thanks for the help.

To use ATM, you need PM.  Drawing the fonts requires using Gpi Calls.
The neat thin about it though, is that you can write the code generically
enough to have it print to BOTH the screen and the printer with very
little effort.

______________________________________________________________________________
     Michael Harris - harris@catt.ncsu.edu or harris@carvm3.vnet.ibm.com
 Vice-President, Computer and Technologies Theme Program, NC State University
(My opinions are my own and do not represent those of NCSU or IBM Corporation)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
From: tnt@netcom.com (Terry Turner)
Subject: link386 not searching lib path for libraries???
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 17:48:53 GMT
Organization: Watch the Skies
Distribution: comp

link386 has suddenly stopped searching the lib path for libraries.
has anyone seen this happen? i searched the documentation and 
cannot even find a way to make this happen--assuming one wanted to
do it--much less make the linker start working correctly again.

my version is 2.00.000 19 dec 91.

any help on this will be greatly appreciated.
-- 
terry
	tnt@netcom.com
From: bjaspan@athena.mit.edu (Barr3y Jaspan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Talking to the network devicen
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:30:22 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Suppose that I were a masocist or an idiot, and that I felt like porting a
public domain socket library to OS/2.  Suppose further that I already have
the TCP/IP 1.2 base package, but do not feel like shelling out $500.

What functions are available in TCPIPDLL.DLL?  Are they documented anywhere
other than the $500 programmer's toolkit?

-- 
Barr3y Jaspan, bjaspan@mit.edu
From: Lowey@Sask.USask.CA (Kevin Lowey)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: How can I create my own icons?
Date: 14 Apr 92 02:29:00 GMT
Reply-To: lowey@jester.usask.ca
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Originator: lowey@jester.usask.ca

From tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael D Kretzer):
> From Bahri Bora BALI AG <OPRJ36@TREARN.BITNET>:

>> Hello..
>> I want to learn how to creat an icon.. Is there a
>> utility to create it? What is the format of a file
>> with extension 'ICO' ? Thank you for your interest.
> 
> Yes, the utility is shipped with every version of OS/2 2.0.  Try
> running the 'Icon Editor' in the Productivity folder...

Better yet, use the "manipulation" button to bring up the manipulation
menu of the object you want to change the icon of. Choose "Settings",
then choose "GENERAL", then choose "EDIT" beside the icon.  The Icon
Editor automatically starts.  You can change the icon, then when you
save it, the icon changes on the desktop.

Here's something interesting.  I have a black and white gif picture of
myself that I scanned on our apple scanner at the office.  I displayed
this using CSHOW in a DOS box.  I then hit "<ALT>-<HOME>" to display
the image in a PM window.  From there, I used the "Mark" and "Copy"
options to copy my face out of the picture into the clipboard.

Next, I went to my "Kevin's Stuff" folder, and edited the icon.  I
chose "paste" inside the Icon Editor.  The Icon Editor automatically
took the bitmap image from the clipboard, scaled it to 32 by 32, and
made it my Icon.

Now to get into my folder, I can punch myself in the nose with the mouse #8-)

OS/2, I love it.

P.S., if you do this, try making your eyes the "inverse" colour, then
move it over the desktop.  Nice twinkle in the eye effect.

- Kevin Lowey


-- 
OS/2 2.0 comes with DOS 5.0 and Windows.  Windows comes with a disclaimer.  
Any questions?     - juan@noyles.pha.pa.us (Juan Jose T. Noyles)
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From: rafetmad@cheshire.oxy.edu (David R. Giller)
Subject: Performance topics
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA.  USA
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 07:42:24 GMT

Hi all.

I have some questions regarding the performance of various inter-thread
synchronization and semaphore techniques in OS/2 2.0.  (1.3 data is still
probably current).

In particular:

How much time does it take for the system to process DosEnterCriticalSection()
(or whatever the name of the call is -- I don't have the docs handy)?  I
am writing an application that will have several layers, much like a network
protocol stack.  Each one is going to be a thread that works much like a 
filter, managing the packets that are fed through the layers.  How much of a 
hit would I take if I used a critical section whenever I change the structures 
between layers? (assuming each is running in its own thread).  Should I use 
semaphores instead?

Thanks.
-Dave

PS: any insight into the issues related to this would be appreciated.

-Dave
-- 
David Giller, Box 134 | Q: How many Oregonians does it take to screw in a light
Occidental College    | bulb?  A: Three.  One to replace the bulb, and two to
1600 Campus Road      | fend off all the Californians trying to share the
Los Angeles, CA 90041 | experience. ---------------------------rafetmad@oxy.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: com.sys and vcom.sys parameters?
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 23:17:39 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

How do you tell com.sys and vcom.sys that there is a com3 on irq7 at
address 3e8?
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
From: lygre@hsr.no (Eirik Lygre)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Codeview with os/2 2.0 GA
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:22:17 GMT
Organization: Rogaland University Centre

I wonder if anyone use codeview (the one that comes with MS C 6.0AX)
with os/2 2.0 GA? I *seem* to remember that someone used it with an
earlier beta -- Im not quite sure, though.

Any info will be appreciated -- and even more so if the info specifies
the codeview version number etc :-). I myself run CVP 3.11, by the way.

My MS support people (MS Languages support, Sweden) thinks it is
imposible (C7, Win, NT... The whole lot. So I say "Sure. Send me a copy
of NT"...). However, I *want* this debugger to work. 

And, not that I don't want to use C-set/2, but we are four people
working on dos, os/2 and windows. By compiling to the least common
denominator, we can share a lot of the core code. So I really need
this.

I hope to hear from y'all!

Eirik Lygre
Kvam data as
Norway

ekl@fics.uucp		-or-
lygre@hsr.no
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