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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 08:32:25 CDT
From:         Mail1%Pubs%SwRI25@D15VS178A.SPACE.SWRI.EDU
Subject:      re: Print Job Size
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

The limit is either less than or equal to 64k, or unlimited, limits higher
than 64k will not work correctly.
Kinda silly specially if you have a postscript printer!
I don't know if these limits are documented anywhere, I found out from the
instructor at the 5.0 intro classes following the Chicago ABUI.

As for not being able to access the print que, I too have had that problem it
seems to occur when you have to many jobs in the que for the system to list.
As a work around I discovered that although you can not list them on a work
station running setprint, you can access and control the print que from the
server console or running remote console.

Hope this helps.

GLR

GREEH@SwRI.EDU
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:09:59 -0600
From:         STRASHEA@ZENO.MSC.COLORADO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Frequently Asked Questions
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This is in response to

SSgt Robert Stoll's FAQ Document he's so boldy decided to do:

One thing that I think any admin or support person wants to know are
"small" tricks of the trade.  To this day, I'm very grateful to the people
who responded to the AUTOLOGON for PCPRINT.  This little helpful tip saved
me hours of training time for one department.    Small shortcuts like these
I think are crucial sometimes, even though some are taken for granted.
I think STDIRECT is a biggie to restate, since you can find just about anything
(user-wise) you need from that.  Even a short list of all the Mxxxx.com or
Mxxxx.exe programs, like MUSER, MGROUP, MSERVICE I think would be helpful.
Some of the more complex commands could be left out for the Advanced FAQ's
<GRIN>..
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From: maf@tabatha.MAE.CWRU.Edu (Mark Fullmer)
Subject: Re:      FTP's BOOTP
Reply-To: maf+@osu.edu
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, USA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 19:10:59 GMT

In article <9208261034.AA09771@ypmaster.jet.uk>,         ps@JET.UK writes:
|> We now have 2.04 pl4 of FTP's Banyan TCPIP software, but are unable to get the
|> BOOT component to work.  Our SUN's will not recognise that the message has to
|> go back thru the VINES gateway and all we get from the SUN's is a network
|> unreachable message.  Yes, the SUN/BANYAN link is set up correctly because I
|> can run fine with the IP address hard configured in my PC.
|> 
|> Come on folks, what's the magic trick I need to do to get this to work???
|> 

What bootp server are you running on the sun?

What is the broadcast address set to on the sun?
Sun defaults to a broadcast of all 0's which is wrong (should be all 1's)

What is the netmask of your network, and is the sun on the same subnet?
The CMU bootp won't work well if it's trying to send replies to a different
subnet.  eg netmask FFFFFF00 sun on net a.b.c pc's on net a.b.d.  There
are ways to make it work though.

The easiest thing to do is get tcpdump (ftp.uu.net /networking/ip/trace)

do a:
	'tcpdump udp port bootpc'
to see if your sun is seeing the requests.


If that works, run bootpd (I'm assuming CMU's bootp) with the debug flag.

That should tell you what's going on.


mark


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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 12:05:01 CDT
From:         FFore%CTC%SwRI26@D15VS178A.SPACE.SWRI.EDU
Subject:      re: OS/2 2.0
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

   Gary,

	We have OS/2 2.0 LA version running all over campus with minimal
difficulty.  Send me e-mail at the address below and I can send you details.

-Frank Fore, Southwest Research Institute, S.A., TX.
 Internet: fpf@swri.edu
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 10:55:23 PDT
From:         Gerald=Langiewicz%Staff%SS-GradLab@PHOBIA.SS.UCI.EDU
Subject:      Mac Dialin???

I have several MAC users who would like to dial in to the network.  Has
anybody heard if Banyan is planning to support somthing equivalentto
PCDialin??


gerald



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Gerald Langiewicz                   ~    VINES:       glang@staff@ss-gradlab
University of California, Irvine    ~    Internet:    GWLangiew@uci.edu
School of Social Science            ~    Phone:       714 856-5404
Irvine, CA 92717                    ~
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 08:13:01 EDT
From:         R=Stoll%SysAdmin%7CG@LGGATE2.HQ.AF.MIL
Subject:      re: 25th line
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>Gee, am I the only guy that read the release notes ?

>Banyan is aware of the 25th line status message problem, in fact, DOS
>5.0 Edit is mentioned by name.

(oops...)
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:27:38 PDT
From:         MA=Crist%Info_Sys%STG_IS@DSO3.DSD.TRW.COM
Subject:      re: CC: Mail
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

Robert,

We recently did a Sector wide search for a multi-client LAN based email
system.  cc:Mail was one package we looked at.  We rejected it because during
our tests, it's file-based databases became corrupted on two occasions.

Mike Crist
TRW
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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:47:39 EDT
From: Randy Carraghan <RMC100@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Subject: 3C507 Support in Vines 5?

Anyone know the latest on support for the 3Com 3C507 card under Vines 5?
How about tips on making client NDIS drivers for these cards?  Any advice?
I'd like to buy some of the new 3C509 cards, but it's taking Banyan a long
time to support the 507's (especially considering they were already
supported in 4.11), so I'm not sure it's worth the risk right now.

Thanks!
Randy (rmc100@psuvm.psu.edu)
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:59:05 EST
From:         Stephan=Sas%SYS%AGR@CC3.KULEUVEN.AC.BE
Subject:      re: Inteligent Messaging System upgrade

As far as the announcments that I have got  are true, a copy per site is enough
 and one is free to install the soft on multiple servers..
..as long as a key won't be needed


stephan
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 10:26:14 EDT
From:         David Heck <O1DSH@AKRONVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Windows 3.1 and Banyan / Printing Across Organizations...

I don't know if this question is a FAQ, or has been recently discussed,
but the listserv says I have exceeded my daily quota (256k), so I'm
posting the following question.

Has anyone successfully printed across organizations using the Win3.1
print manager over banyan printer accross organizations?  I've selected
the network printer in my .ini file, and am able to print to the
banyan printer from DOS.  But inside Windows all I get when I attempt
to print anything is a General Protection fault.  I'm running a Gateway 2000
386sx/16 with 8 meg of RAM, Windows 3.1, DOS 5.0, VINES 4.11.  Any help
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
David
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:19:46 MDT
From:         Dean=Wallace%Software%ACNS@VINES.COLOSTATE.EDU
Subject: Re: 16 bits NIC
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

We recently talked to someone at Banyan. During the conversation, I asked what
was the fastest card for Ethernet, both in a server and a client. The upshot
of the reply was that the slowest style of card is the style that uses DMA,
the next fastest style is the one that uses shared memory (WD80x3), and the
fastest is the style that doesn't use either DMA or shared memory, such as an
NE2000-type. If this is true, we will probably go to the NE2000-style, both
because it's faster and because it would offer another 16K of upper memory for
loading programs high.

We have used some CSS2000 cards; we can get them from the local clone maker
for $168. This version has two interface styles - transceiver and either
thinnet or TP. Another version has all three styles, but costs more. It's an
NE2000 clone, but the CSS person at the LA ABUI claimed their card was 30%
faster than a real NE2000.

We are in the process of trying a card from Asante', again an NE2000 clone. It
has all 3 styles of connections, and I think we will sell it internally for
$185. Yesterday, I heard a price of $137, from someone who called Asante'
directly, but I don't know if that included all 3 connection styles.

There are also several other makers of NE2000 clones around; I have heard
prices in the $120 range, but haven't tried them.

We tend to use packet drivers rather than NDIS...

Is there anyone who has tested these in comparison? One of our guys is trying
to find time to do this, using some Norton utility, to see which will be
faster.

Dean Wallace                                dwallace@vines.colostate.edu
Academic Computing and Networking Services  303/491-7444
Colorado State University                   FAX:491-1958
Ft. Collins, CO  80523
   *Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you
    just sit there.  - Will Rogers
   *Better to ask twice than to lose your way once.  - Danish proverb
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 09:19:45 EDT
From:         Keith Lally <lally@PMDB.SEP.BNL.GOV>
Subject:      32 bit nic for CNS/MCA
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I've got a CNS and an IBM PS2/80 running vines.  Are there 32 bit NIC cards
that are supported by Banyan that will work in these machines?  Does 3com have
one?  Approximate cost?

thanks
Keith Lally
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:23:44 EDT
From:         Jon Freivald <jaflrn!jaf@UUNET.UU.NET>
Subject: Re: 16 bits NIC
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vm1.cc.uakron.edu!WK=Chu%NWB%CCA%INET-GW.DIENST.VU.NL@uunet.UUCP writes:

> Hello all,
>
> 	We have here some CNS servers. We are now using WD8003E(B), 3Com
> EtherLinkPlus in the server. In the PC's we use WD8003E(P) and old UB NIC.
> But now we want to use 16 bits in our servers and in the 386/486's PC. We are
> running Vines 4.11(5) and we are not intend to upgrade to 5.00. Later we do
> want to upgrade to Vines 5.11(?) !
>
> 	Did any of you some experience? What do you recommend?
> WD8013 ?? or 3Com507 ?? or ???. In the servers we want the NIC as fast as
> possible. In the PC the card may slower if the NIC is cheaper.

I've been using some EtherLink II/16's for a number of months now.  I'm
quite happy with them & they are 100% software compatible with the
3C503's.

=============================================================================
		   Jon Freivald ( jaflrn!jaf@uunet.UU.NET )
	 Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn't have to do it.
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:18:47 CDT
From:         David=Blair%ComputerSrvcs%WILL@BIGBIRD.WILL.UIUC.EDU
Subject:      re: 3C507 Support in Vines 5?
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Randy, I am currently using 3C507 cards in some of my client machines with
Vines 5.00(5).  I use packet drivers V10.1.2  and they work great.

	-dlb
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 10:40:00 EDT
From:         "Gregory.Burgess" <GBURGESS@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      re: access problems after upgrad

Had a similar problems with a program that was creating temporary files.
Check the setting for New Files.  You may have it set to read only.  Also,
remember that when you change the ARL for a directory, you need to copy it to
all the files in that directory.

-Greg Burgess
 Greg.Burgess@banyan.msu.edu
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 10:38:28 EDT
From:         Russel=Grocott%ITS=Staff%CURTIN@BA1.CURTIN.EDU.AU
Subject:      Print Job Size
X-To:         banyan-l@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

I have installed VINES 5.00 (5) on 4 CNS servers.  My questions are listed as
follows :-

	1. Does anyone know if the docs are accurate in saying that print job
	   size is in kilobytes or bytes ?  My results indicate the later as I
	   set a so called 300K limit and all that would print were 300 byte or
 less files.  All the other print jobs received an error message.

	2. Why does the print queue become inaccessible ?  This is the same
	   queue mentioned in the first question.  I have 141 jobs queued,
	   they are printing, but I can't view the queue and hence do any job
	   reshuffling etc.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Cheers
	Russel Grocott		  Internet Email :- grocottr@ba1.curtin.edu.au
	Network Consultant   		     	 :- tgrocottr@cc.curtin.edu.au
	Information Technology Services	   Phone :- +61-9-351-2864
	Curtin Business School		   Fax   :- +61-9-351-2378
	Curtin University
	25 Kent Street, Bentley
	Perth, 6102
	Australia
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 12:06:14 +0000
From:         THOM@BDILUC01.BITNET
Subject:      access problems after upgrade to Vines 5.0

Dear netters,

I recently upgraded my server to Vines 5.0, and now found a problem in running
a specific piece of software, namely TenCore. This is an Authoring System that
delivers lessons to students.
Students log into a group via a name and then take lessons. Scores are saved
at the server.
Now, after my upgrade to 5.0 I'm no longer able to log into this group, because
of some (security ??) reason.
I checked all new SETATTR and SETARL settings, logged in as system administrator
etc. But no lock.
I simulated the problem via a diskette by setting one specific file Read-Only:
ATTRIB +R GROUP.GRP
I then get exactly  the same behaviour as from my server.

I also copied the whole thing to my local C: disk: no problems there !

All this work perfect under 4.10...

Can anybody shed any light on this ???

Thanks in advance...

Marc

Marc Thoelen
Limburgs Universitair Centrum
Universitaire Campus Gebouw D
B-3590 Diepenbeek
Belgium

Tel. ++32-11-229961 (211)
Fax. ++32-11-223284
email: THOM@BDILUC01.BITNET
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 06:31:06 CDT
From:         JZeevi%users%swri03@D26VS046A.CCF.SWRI.EDU
Subject:      25th line

Gee, am I the only guy that read the release notes ?

Banyan is aware of the 25th line status message problem, in fact, DOS 5.0 Edit
is mentioned by name. The feedback I got from the regional rep indicates they
are working on it. (Of course, this is the guy who also told me the toolkit
was available 2 months ago....)

	josef
	jzeevi@swri.edu
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:37:12 CDT
From:         Lori=Kingery%ecd%USACERL@AARDVARK.CECER.ARMY.MIL
Subject:      re: Frequently Asked Questions
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 - OK, If I'm going to be working on a FAQ, I'll need some input as to what
- I should include.  Any suggestions? Ian?  Greg?  Frank?  Gary?  Laura?
- Any and all inputs will be greatly appreciated.
-
- SSgt Robert Stoll		 rstoll@lggate2.hq.af.mil
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Some people have already made some great suggestions, but rather than trying
to remember what they all are and maybe leaving some out, I will just list all
that I can think of...

25th line problems and manipulations -- hanging windows, msgcolor, msgbell
common Banyan 3rd party software companies and numbers/fax/addresses
how to subscribe and unsub to the list
books people have recommended for Banyan
(we've had a lot of Cisco router questions, but I'm not sure what to include)
communication buffer problems
info about csus
dialing in
the difference between ebanyan and ibanyan
using fax or cdrom on Banyan
loading Banyan drivers, etc. into high memory
(analyzing your network?)
excessive login delays (half-alive services)
lost path, environment size
(line printer daemons)
Mac stuff
mail -- to different systems, chars to avoid, checking for unread mail
named pipes
using a nameserver, unix nicknames, getting rid of those long email addresses
resetting time and how it's set
differences between VINES and other networks, between VINES 5.0 and earlier
packed file is corrupt
packet drivers
powersave/backups
printers -- automatic printserver login, security
!setstda and stdirect
"slamming" a server
toolkit stuff like recent address book question
trojan login procedures, how to prevent?
Network Interface Cards, patches, problems
windows (argh!)

You probably won't want all of these, but it gives you choices.  I had some
of these compiled, but my SCSI drive died a heinous death before I backed
them up.  Sigh.

Lori Kingery  kingery@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu  kingery%ecd@aardvark.cecer.army.mil
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 07:57:59 PDT
From:         Stephane=Bourque%Eng%Incognito@DEAN.ARTS.SFU.CA
Subject:      re: FTP's BOOTP
X-To:         BANYAN-L@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU

Hi Paul:

	BOOTP hey!(Canadian touch to Internet messaging)!

	First make sure you are using the EBANYAN of Vines.
	I have not been able to get the IBANYAN version to work (if any
	one has...please let me know).

	Using EBANYAN, BOOTP will usually broadcast on 255.255.255.255
	and expect an answer from there.  Make sure your SUN's broadcast
	address is set in that manner otherwise the PC doing BOOTP will
	never see an answer coming back. Some SUN's are set to broadcast
	on 0.0.0.0.

	There may also be also a developper with a BOOTP service for Vines.
	(Read I!)

	Stephane Bourque
	Incognito Software Inc.
	(604)669-7575
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1992 15:38:45 EDT
From:         "Lawrence Belan ][" <lbelan@FERT1.FE.PSU.EDU>
Subject:      Login.exe Problems

Since I'm stumped, I'll see if the net has some ideas.

We're running Vines 4.11(5) on a CNS over IBM Token-Ring.
On a 386 workstation (ISA), i reconfigured the Lan Support program
to set the TR's Ram address to C800 and even made the changes
in PCCONFIG.DB.

For some reason the login.exe program hangs the machine.  I can issue
the BAN /nc, Tokuiban, and Redir4 programs with no problem.  The login
program begins with the clear of the screen then promptly locks up.

Have any of you run into similar situations?
--
 Lawrence (Larry) Belan ][                       lbelan@fert1.fe.psu.edu
 Computer/Telecommunications Specialist             bp3@psuvm.psu.edu (or)
 PennState - Fayette Campus                         bp3@psuvm.bitnet
 Route 119 North  Box 519                     75745.242@compuserve.com
 Uniontown, PA  15041-0519                         (412) 430-4163
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 10:16:07 AES
From:         Ian=Brabham%CC%Monash@BANYAN.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU
Subject:      re: starting appletalk

Russel,

>We also had the same problem with starting up a VINES 5.0(5) server.  The AFP
>will configure but not start.  The service returns the same error, SNM7222,
>and then tells us to reboot the server.  We duly rebooted the server and
>NOTHING changed as far as starting AFP is concerned.

I got a feeling it's the same deal as the TCP/IP option.  After you load the
MAC option you need to force a driver rebuild to include the MAC drivers in
the kernal.

>.....
>The only thing we have noticed is that since the beta server went to full
>release it seems to be having trouble coping with 20 Macs in a lab plus adhoc
>users totalling around 60 users.

Anybody got info on server loading and performance with respect to MAC's?

Ian Brabham                 email: ian@banyan.cc.monash.edu.au
Micro Support Group         phone: +61 3 565 4742
Monash University           fax:   +61 3 565 4746
Melbourne Australia
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 06:50:17 CDT
From:         JZeevi%users%swri03@D26VS046A.CCF.SWRI.EDU
Subject:      Coprocessor Upgrade

Again, I am curious if anyone out there has added a coprocessor to their
server with any strange results....

I added an Intel 387 part to my Compaq Deskpro 386/25 Server and now my MNET
numbers (percentages) are fubar.... (-8848% cache hit ratio ?)

Any ideas? (The thing does run faster and my queue lengths are shorter....but
the numbers are weird...)

	josef
	jzeevi@swri.edu
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From:         VAN UYTVEN HERMAN <SYSTHVU@CC1.KULEUVEN.AC.BE>
Subject:      Re: VINES Mail to SMTP Gateway

I am not a VINES specialist, but I am the last SMTP hop (on VM) before
a big VINES network with many mail users.

I can tell you that if I loose 10 hairs, 9 are due to VINES SMTP.

The VINES SMTP has a lot of bugs :

- If you send mail with special hexadecimal characters (hex '00', '01' ...),
  mail doesn't get through to VINES, it hangs on our VM SMTP.
  If such mail hangs, we have to stop our VM SMTP, and change all those
  characters into other 'normal' characters.
  After this change, all mails go from VM to VINES.  But with certain
  VINES SMTP versions, if more than one mail is send in one 'SMTP session',
  only the first one arrives on VINES, all the rest is deleted by VINES.

- The same problem occurs if you put RFC822 tags in the first column of
  the mail body.

- Once we had a loop, which was very difficult to stop (watching my VM
  SMTP and press very quickly the Halt Execution key seemed to be the
  only solution).

- The addressing used on VINES gives a lot of problems.  The % character
  used in VINES addresses has a special meaning to a lot of mail
  gateways.  You won't be able to cross most of the Internet - X.400
  gateways.

But worst of all (in every product are bugs), we have these problems already
for two years now.  I think our VINES admin installed SMTP 1.20 now, but
we still have these problems.

-Herman-
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