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From: remek@mamura.ee.mu.oz.au (Remek Lipinski)
Subject: Re: Why GUS != synth (longish)(was: Re: Questions for GUS owners!!!)
Organization: Electrical and Electronic - University of Melbourne 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:40:07 GMT

I have a question regarding the GUS. Since it is capable of sampling
stuff, I assume that these samples can be converted into a GUS patch,
thus you can have pathces like dogs barking etc. Now this opens an
iterresting prospect that only sampling synths used to be able to do,
but would it be possible to control the GUS with anothe MIDI device
(a keyboard plugged into the GUS's MIDI port), if so would that be
supported in hardware or is additional software required. The reason
why I ask is that I already have a synth but it would be nice to have
a sampler, real samplers cost big $, but the GUS is suprisingly cheap
by comparison.
		Thanks for any help, Remek.

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From: baustin@billapc.UUCP (Bill Austin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: THE GRAVIS ULTRASOUND
Date: 13 Oct 92 08:45:20 GMT
Organization: Ground Zero Group, Columbus, OH 43227

jon@chopin.udel.edu (Jon Deutsch) writes:

>       WILL start supporting the Gravis?  I mean, OK, it's gotten a lot
>       of net-hype, but as far as real-world advertising, NO ONE has
>       ever heard of the damned thing.

I just bought a Sound Blaster Pro (actually, I bought the Standard SB,
and then talked my dealer into taking it back in favor of a Pro.
This boring little story means this.  Before I started reading this
newsgroup *I* had never heard of the Gravis card (from any electronic
or print medium)
So, despite any glowing reviews I might read (not just here, but any
other place).  If I didn't see quite a few software houses (of
interest) supporting the card.. why buy it?
So, if the 'emulation' cards (as a selling point.. not really their
full potential.. that I'll admit) are stuck doing nothing but emulation
of a Sound Blaster.. Why not just own the SB in the first place?
When and/or IF the support comes, then I'll sell my SB-Pro (likely for
a good price for me and whoever buys it) and buy something
better/newer.

Why should the average (or above average, since most sound cards are
used in games and thus don't have to be much better than your 'average'
sound blaster) person risk/waste money on something that 'might' be
supported.

>       I understand that eventually, a new sound card standard will evolve,
>       it HAS to.  But, I'm not too convinced that Gravis' marketing campaign
>       is going to be able to pull it off.

My basic view of the sound card market is that there are only two major
players that are supported (feel free to correct me, I don't mind
learning new information when I'm wrong).  SB and Adlib or its newer
SB-Pro and Adlib-Gold.  Anything and everything else is likely to have
an emulation of one of those four, and likely be used in that 'mode'
80% of the time.
From: jskubick@iat.holonet.net (Jeff Skubick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: The Gus..
Date: 11 Oct 92 19:28:36 GMT
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)

>Where can I get a GUS

Well, you might want to try calling Software Alley in Vancouver (although
I'm pretty sure that they've sold all of their cards days ago). I'm one of
the lucky Americans that got to buy one for about cdn$250 (I had them
FedEx a card to me in Miami on Wednesday. Ok. So I'm a little impatient.)
If you can wait a little longer than yesterday, you might want to try PC
Zone and Computability (both have listed it in their ads for over a month
now).
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From: br326@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Raphael Pungin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: New mod
Date: 10 Oct 1992 15:42:51 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: br326@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Raphael Pungin)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, cb062@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ira C. Smith) says:

>
>  Hey,
>
>      I just tried my hand at writing my own mod and I want to
>know what everyone thinks. Its called groove.zip and I just 
>uploaded it to wuarchive.wustl.edu. I would like an honest
>opinion, but something more than "this stinks.." *:^). Remember
>this is my first attempt.
>
>Comment: It works ok on WinMod pro and WOWII, but Trakblaster
>Pro seems to not like it, at least on my machine. It may be the 
>editor I used. I used Whacker Tracker. WinMod supports stereo
>which really sounds nice, but it doesnt seem to catche some
>fadeouts I put here and there.

	What is Whacker Tracker? Is it a public domain/shareware product?
How is it in comparison to ModEdit? I am looking for good MS-DOS MOD
editors. So far I have seen ModEdit and Scream Tracker. ModEdit's user
interface, in my opinion, is cumbersome. And Scream Tracker saves files	
in STM format. Information on Whacker Tracker would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks. 
  Raphael
  

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From: dedmunds@selkirk.sfu.ca (Darran Edmundson)
Subject: Re: Warning: possible incompatibility - GUS and OS/2 2.0
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:51:30 GMT

ylam@fraser.sfu.ca (Yau Ha Elina Lam) writes:

>   Just now I was experimenting with the GUS under os/2.  My setup (which is
>the default setting: a220, i11, DMA channel 7, and midi interrupt 5) works
>fine under DOS.  I also believe that I don't have an interrupt conflict
>(which os/2 won't tolerate).  My printer is on IRQ7, and my mouse on IRQ2,
>so IRQ5 and IRQ11 should be free.

Call Gravis technical support about your settings.  I recall that the
default settings will not work because OS/2 actually uses IRQ7 (I know
that it shouldn't matter based on the above settings which confuses me).
-- 

Darran Edmundson
darran@chaos.phys.sfu.ca

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From: ramsey@spot.Colorado.EDU (Mad Poo Bandit)
Subject: Re: More notes on GUS
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 04:53:52 GMT

In article <gting.718625865@sfu.ca> gting@fraser.sfu.ca (Gabriel Sii Kuok Ting) writes:
>As if there's not enough mention of the GUS out here. :) Just tried WinMod
>on my GUS, and it really sings! The sounds were a lot clearer and cleaner than
>on my old SB. Sort of like turning on Dolby C. No more of those hissing 
>sounds that always seemed to accompany the sounds on the SB. Of course, the
>mod files were not as good as the midi files that came with it...
>
>DOS based mod players were a disaster though. Trakblaster wouldn't even
>run while ModPlay was sloooooooowwwwwww..... even without xms/ems. 
>

Okay, so when do the GUS modplayers show up?  I mean, how hard could that
be?  You don't have to deal with FFTs or anything, just let the card handle
it right?  That would impress me.  And 32 channels (or 16 panning stereo) at
once would kick major bootie over the old protracker 4 channel stuff.

Mad Poo
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From: mew@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Merlyn)
Subject: Re: batdance.mod
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 09:37:55 GMT

The batdance module can be found at cobalt.cco.caltech.edu in the
/pub/apple2/noisetracker directory.

Merlyn
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From: snodgras@cs.unca.edu (Ryan Snodgrass)
Subject: SB Pro vs Gravis Ultrasound
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 12:27:46 GMT

Which sound card do you think is better?  In sound quality, compatibility
with SB Pro, SB, Adlib, etc.  I currently have a SB Pro and am thinking of
switching to the Gravis Ultrasound.  Any reasons why I shouldn't change or
that I really should?  Also, can anyone give me a place I can order the
GUS from?  And the approx. price?  Thanks,

Ryan
From: smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: SB16; where is it?
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:36:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: ichips.1992Oct8.193648.25421
Organization: Intel Corporation
Originator: smintz@alamo


What ever happened to the sb 16...isn't it aspose to be out by now...I ever heard
is was moved up...
Stephen
From: boxall@qut.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: IRQ setting for Soundblaster 2.0
Date: 9 Oct 92 12:50:26 EST
Organization: Queensland University of Technology

What is the best IRQ to use with the Soundblaster 2.0
card. It is rediculous to default to IRQ7 as this is 
used by LPT1:

What do other people use?


Wayne.
boxall@qut.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: ylam@fraser.sfu.ca (Yau Ha Elina Lam)
Subject: Warning: possible incompatibility - GUS and OS/2 2.0
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 11:06:38 GMT

   I am not scaring you off from buying the Ultrasound.  It works wonderfully
under DOS.  But if you are running os/2 and want to buy the GUS, I will 
suggest that you wait till we sort this out first...
   Just now I was experimenting with the GUS under os/2.  My setup (which is
the default setting: a220, i11, DMA channel 7, and midi interrupt 5) works
fine under DOS.  I also believe that I don't have an interrupt conflict
(which os/2 won't tolerate).  My printer is on IRQ7, and my mouse on IRQ2,
so IRQ5 and IRQ11 should be free.
   Now trying to run the SBOS (soundblaster emulation, TSR).  It loads fine,
even with the usual voice output of a man saying "sbos installed".  But when
trying to play ROL files (adlib files) using SOUND.COM and PLAYROL.COM, no
music was heard.  I tried to run another Sound Blaster compatible midi
sequencer (which worked fine under DOS).  It wouldn't even find the 
soundcard.  SBOS seemed to load fine, but other softwares couldn't find it.
   Next came the worst nightmare...  When I tried running the MIDIDEMO that
comes with the ultrasound, I got a TRAP 0 from os/2 and the machine is
hung completely.  Similarly, the SETUP utility of the GUS hung up the 
machine solidly, without even giving the TRAP 0.  I wonder if this has
anything to do with how the GUS uses its on-board memory...
   I hope it's just my mistake in setup.  Maybe some of you os/2 gurus out
there can make it work.  But it will be sad if the two pieces of technical
marvel cannot work together.

Timothy

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From: ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran)
Subject: Re: THE GRAVIS ULTRASOUND
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 20:20:19 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.135226.14698@tamsun.tamu.edu> edb9140@tamsun.tamu.edu (Ed Boling) writes:
>We'll that's all real nice with those prices that you have listed, but the GUS is NOT 16 bit at that price, nor does it have a SCSI ability at that price.  You should compare apples to apples and not compare apples to oranges.
>

The basic GUS has 16-bit playback at 44.1 kHz.  I don't need a SCSI, and
heck, I don't even have a microphone so I don't really care what bit
resolution it records at.  

Phat.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:24:02 EDT
From: <DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Programming info for GUS?

Is programming info (register map and such) available for the Gravis
Ultrasound  (for free or a reasonable fee)? I'm NOT a software developer, if it
matters.
From: robert@hektar.welly.gen.nz (Robert Ruthven)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: SB16; where is it?
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 04:08:08 GMT
Reply-To: robert@hektar.welly.gen.nz
Distribution: world
Organization: Strange Software

In article <1992Oct12.021932.9568@midway.uchicago.edu> nbw1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:

 > The Sound Blaster 16 has been released as of last week, it will be available
 > mailorder next week, retail stores week + 1/2

A little while ago someone mentioned something about an upgrade from the
SBPro.  Anything more on this?  My local computer stores looked at me
with a faint look of confusion when I asked them about the SB/16.  8-(

(sorry if this question has been asked/answered recently - my host has
spent the last week moving to OS/2, so my feed has been a little
unstable.  8-(


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From: kbs@ccr-p6.ccr.jussieu.fr (An OCR-IP fan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Soundblaster and external CD
Date: 9 Oct 92 23:47:38 GMT
Organization: Universites P. & M. Curie / D. Diderot

Hello there,

Just to share my little, tiny little experience
with the soundblaster card.

DO NOT USE IT WITH AN EXTERNAL CD.

In fact, after the contacts I had with the 
company that imports those cards and the problems
I had it seems that the power given by the
card is much too little for the external CD.
Actually, I'm speaking about the CD player sold
as a bundle with the card that exist in both versions
internal and external.
Internal works fine. As for external, the CD has no
external power supply but takes it from the card.
Sometimes it can read the disk but when the current
gets too little it gives you reading errors.
The company just told me that Creative sounds
had told them that this was repaired and seems
not true and just told me to transform my external
in an internal CD!
Anyway, if u choose to use an external CD with
the soundblaster choose one with external power
supply, ie not coming from the card.

Have a nice day!


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From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: GUS & Falcon
Date: 14 Oct 1992 19:51:20 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: sam.civil.ubc.ca

In article <kjelljf.13.719055081@dhhalden.no> kjelljf@dhhalden.no (KJELL JORGEN FLOBAK) writes:
>I got my GUS yesterday, and I tested it with my falcon 3.0d.
>....

Run the README.BAT file under the ultrasnd directory. There is a
parameter that you have to use with SBOS for Falcon 3.0.

Thomas.

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From: wwf1@ra.msstate.edu (Bill Ford)
Subject: Re: Questions for Gravis Ultra owners
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:54:56 GMT

gting@fraser.sfu.ca (Gabriel Sii Kuok Ting) writes:

>Haven't tried the headphones yet. In fact, I won't even try it on my headphones
>unless I get one with its own volume control. One thing I sorely miss on the
>GUS is the volume knob... The default volume settings are just too bloody
>loud when played through the 2W amps and my poor Koss speakers...

It doesn't have a volume knob?  What sort of amplified output control do
you have, then?  Just curious.

And a number of people mentioned that their machines run slow with the SB
emulation.  That is depressing, since all of my current sound software will
have to use the emulator, I imagine, since they won't have Gravis support.

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From: robert@hektar.welly.gen.nz (Robert Ruthven)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Music for SBPro (Regarding RBGDemo2 also)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 04:10:03 GMT
Reply-To: robert@hektar.welly.gen.nz
Distribution: world
Organization: Strange Software


In article <1bcbcbINNaib@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aeb3@po.CWRU.Edu writes:

 >         Does anyone have any of the .670 (?) type music that was in the
 > RBGDemo2?  That was some really awesome stuff.

Did anyone manage to get this going?  I kept on getting "not enough low
memory" errors, even though I booted with *just* HIMEM.SYS loaded.
Nothing else.  I had 635000 bytes of memory free.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: europa@eng.umd.edu (Tae Hun Kim)
Subject: Re: SB16; where is it?
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 04:58:03 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <MeqlZ6e00Uh_E4QI10@andrew.cmu.edu> Josh S Linder <jl6p+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>ComputAbility - 1-800-554-9930 (or something like that, check PC
>Magazine or Computer Shopper for exact #).  $189 + shipping.

I called them up and they said maybe by late November...

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From: cmbox@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Chris)
Subject: Re: Sound Blaster cards
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:42:54 GMT

baustin@billapc.UUCP (Bill Austin) writes:

>Finally (yes, it should have been a separate message), while I consider
>my 386-DX 40 MHz to be moderately speedy.. I'm getting lousy response
>from dos-based .mod players (above mentioned) in OS/2 2.0

When I use Modplay on my 386-25, its performance is much reduced whenever
I run a memory manager (EMM386 or QEMM). I have to set a smaller mixing
speed to allow the program to run properly. Without a memory manager the
performance is much better. This might be something to do with the difference
between real mode and protected mode.

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From: jthjr@jthjr.austin.ibm.com (John Hollaway)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Gravis UltraSound for $144 at PC Zone
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:27:06 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin

"The PC Zone" has the UltraSound in their new catalog for $144.  It is item #11288.  Their phone number is 1-800-258-2088 (24 hours).  They say they are out of stock, but will have by Oct. 10.

Enjoy.

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From: as_cert@uqam.ca (Association des tudiants au certificat en comptabilit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: GUS and LucasArt support
Date: 16 Oct 92 12:31:49 GMT
Organization: Universite du Quebec a Montreal.

I just spoke with a rep. at LucasArt yesterday, and they told me that if 
they receive enough letter in support of the Gravis ultrasound card they 
will develop a driver especially for the card. So please do as i did, and 
send them a letter of support of the card. That may change everithing in 
their mind.

	Thank you for reading me,

				Yves a devoted GUS fan
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From: shane@cs.UAlberta.CA (Ruman Shane James)
Subject: Gravis and Os/2
Organization: University of Alberta
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:34:01 GMT

      I know that I'm being extremly greedy in lieu of the fact that the card
just recently shipped after an eternal vaporware period but . . . I remember
a thread awhile back about Gravis's attitude toward Os/2 drivers.  What's the
latest scoop on the Gravis-Os/2 relationship.
From: ian@stirling.hursley.ibm.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Soundblaster .MID files
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:55:52 GMT
Reply-To: ian@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM, UK AIX Systems Support Centre.
NNTP-Posting-Host: stirling.hursley.ibm.com
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.14 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers

Can anyone point me to an anonymous FTP source for MID files for the Soundblaster
Jukebox.

Ian Stirling                      Internet: ian@vnet.ibm.com
CICS/ESA Systems Facilities         Bitnet: ian at vnet
IBM UK Labs Ltd, Hursley,         IBMIPnet: ian@stirling.hursley.ibm.com
England, SO21 2JN                  IBMMail: GBIBMJWB at IBMMAIL
                             International: + 44 962 844433
From: morgan@dl5000.bc.edu (Morgan Stair)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: THE GRAVIS ULTRASOUND
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:31:56 GMT
	<Bw2Fz6.I6z@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Organization: Institute for Space Research, Boston College

In article <Bw2Fz6.I6z@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> mfleig@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Mark W. Fleig) writes:

   In article <0HRksB3w165w@billapc.UUCP> baustin@billapc.UUCP (Bill Austin) writes:
   >So, despite any glowing reviews I might read (not just here, but any
   >other place).  If I didn't see quite a few software houses (of
   >interest) supporting the card.. why buy it?

   Though I'm still waiting for it to show up on my doorstep, a good many
   people did as I and ordered their card through Electronic Arts, who
   have decided to give this thing major backing. So for the most part, 
   we can at least expect support from their software houses, including
   the mewly acquired Origin. (Is this a proper assumption? How much
   influence does EA have over their companies?)

   Looking back on the Roland MT-32, one of the first companies to
   support it fully was Sierra, (Remember Silpheed. Great Orch. Hit for
   the title screen. :) and a good many companies followed. Granted there
   was little else to choose from back then, soundcard-wise. But also
   consider the expense of the MT-32. Developers obviously decided the
   work to integrate support for the module was worth targeting the
   possible small Roland community.

Has anyone heard from other companies one way or another?  I suppose
most companies will take a "wait and see" approach, but some major
developers other than Origin might support it in advance.

Has anyone spoken to Sierra?

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From: mknip@niksula.hut.fi (Mats Anders Knip)
Subject: Re: converting sbpro sounds into amiga
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:47:53


>   I have various programs that convert sbpro sounds into amiga format but th
>   how do you get them to be usable on amigas?  I mean once you have the Amiga
>   format file how can you copy it on to an Amiga formatted disk?
>   Any help would be appreciated.

Let's see if I got you right...
You've got amiga-IFF-files saved on DOS disks and want to copy them
to an Amiga disk?
There are several programs that make the Amiga read DOS-disks, so get
hold of one of them (Dos-2-Dos, CrossDoss etc.), copy your PC-files
onto a 720k MS-DOS disk (it MUST be a DD-disk, NOT HD) and use
one of the programs mentioned above to copy the files onto a normal
Amiga-disk. You need two drives, of course.
Why do you want SB-pro samples? You can get IFF-samples from almost
and FTP-site that supports amigas.
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