From: Patrick.Martin@f825.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Patrick Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Landuse Mailing List
Date: 19 Dec 1992 11:55:16 -0600
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In a previous article, Kenneth_Ferguson@rand.org (Ken Ferguson) says:

>    Sorry Jeff, But if the Sahara club is involved I'm not interested.
>I received an E mail a while ago from one of those misinformed morons
>in regards to the District 37's attempts to fight land closure
>legislation.

Cute, Ken.  Very cute!!!  I'm assuming that was myself that sent you the
email...  THough I would like to know exactly what District-37 "attempts to
fight land closure legislation" that you refer to.  I haven't seen ANY
attempts from them in a great many years!!!

Let's jump back a few years to D-37's "Battle-to-Victory" Hare & Hound.
Held in the Lucerne area Thanksgiving weekend, 1990.

That year, there was a LOT of media hype about the Sahara Club
Barstow-to-Vegas protest ride.  Originally, we were gonna protest the BLM's
denial to issue a race permit.  The media got wind of this and it became a
rather polular topic on "live at 5."  The BLM spiraled off into panic mode,
with a LOT of heat from environmental extremists.

THe BLM issued a temporary closure.  The media coverage picked up even more.
The BLM tossed a biscuit to D-37 in an attempt to diffuse a B2V Protest Ride
that they suspected could get out of hand.  The "handed" D-37 a hare-n-hound
elsewhere for the same weekend, and hand-walked the paperwork through the
system.  D-37 had permit in RECORD time, at no doing of their own.

But the BLM was still in panic mode...  As time draws near that eventful
Thanksgiving weekend, that BLM, ever aware of increasing media coverage,
put the heat on D-37.  D-37 then announces to its board members that if
any of them participated in the B2V Protest Ride, they would automatically
lose their board status.

District 37 advertised their "Battle-to-Victory" hare-n-hound as an "event to
stuff the legal coffers" so they cound get back the REAL B2V.

If you rode that 1990 hare-n-hound, you were duped, as was D-37 for putting it
on.  They were pawns to BLM...

What has D-37 done since then as an attempt to "get back the REAL B2V?"
I'll tell you what...  NOTHING!!!

I was arrested at Rasor Rd. in 1990 for violating the BLM's temporary
(and illegal) land closure...  Where were you my friend???

>  This person rambled on about how the district had a do nothing policy
>towards fighting land closure legislation. Obviously this person has not
>been around long enough to remeber the district's battles  with the BLM
>in the 70's to bring back Barstow to Vegas.
>

I know the history of B2V quite well Ken.  I first raced it in '67, it's
debut year.

I suggest before you babble more and further embarass yourself, you learn
of what you speak.

THough the AMA took much credit for getting the race going again in '75 and
again in '83, Rick Sieman (Super Hunky) and Louis Henry McKey (Phantom Duck)
certainly played their part.

If you recall, when we got the race back in 83, there were a LOT of B2V
Protest Rides the years preceding this.  Rick and Louis were in federal
court on conspiracy charges over Protest Rides.  And after a lengthy
period of time, the BLM got their butt kicked in court - but that kind
of stuff doesn't happen cheap.

Where were you, the ever-knowledgeable Ken, back then???

Where were you during the Barstow-to-Vegas Protest Ride this year?  Out
doing more "Battle-to-Victories?"

Unplug yer head, it doesn't belong in that part of you body Ken...

Now this is the sort of thing that makes it such a pleasure to work with
other groups fighting land closures...but at least some of STILL fight!


Patrick Martin
SysOp / Sahara Club BBS


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From: jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:32:15 GMT
Subject: Re: Landuse Mailing List
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA