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From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Subject: Re: Hyperspace and the Death Star
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:48:11 GMT

crunch@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Travis Prebble) writes:

>athas@buphy.bu.edu (Gregory Athas) writes:

>>This has nagged me for a while, and since I'm 1000 miles from my copy
>>of ANH (novelization);  If we assume that the falcon escaped by going
>>into hyperspace to get to Yavin, and it was tracked by the imperials
>>(details of this have been a continuing thread here) can the Death
>>Star go into hyperspace?  Otherwise it would have probably been a
>>myserably long journy to Yavin.  So how much time did the rebels have
>>until they would become interstellar dust?  The movie gives the
>>impression of not too many hours.

>I think the first thing that needs to looked at is what was accomplished 
>in this time frame: Luke joined the Alliance as an X-wing pilot.  While I 
>don't know all the rituals/requirements involved in becoming a pilot, I'm 
>sure it took more than a couple of hours.  They probably had at least a 
>week or two, which would give them enough time to prepare for the arrival 
>of the Death Star, but not enough time to relocate.  My guess would be 
>that the DS would have limited hyperspace abilities (either travel at a 
>slower speed or have to make the trip in short "jumps", and then, having 
>arrived, would need time to "recharge", which may explain why they didn't 
>just quickly move into a line of fire with Yavin, but rather waited until 
>the orbit carried them within firing range).

>Just some thoughts... Please correct me if I've assumed too much. :)

Sounds more or less OK to me, although I think the figure is closer to
two days between the arrival of the Falcon and the arrival of the Death
Star.  Han being the self-centered guy he was, it's doubtful that he'd hang
around Yavin for as long as a week; it's more likely he'd skedaddle as soon
as he was able to 1) get paid and 2) fix up the Falcon and remove that
pesky homing beacon.  Of course, it's anyone's guess as to how long these
things took, but IMHO it didn't take more than a day or so.

Similarly, it probably didn't take too long for Luke to be inducted into the
Rebel Alliance.  The Alliance at this point in history wasn't much more than
a ragtag group of like-minded beings; in those days, joining was probably
not much more complicated than having the local commander say, "Okay, kid,
you're in," and being given a uniform.  How long it took Luke to learn how
to fly an X-wing is uncertain, but given Luke's astounding piloting skill,
he probably figured out the controls in record time.


                                      --Steve Stelter
                                        sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: kw@doc.ic.ac.uk (K. Wong)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: x-wings??????   why?????
Date: 22 Jan 1993 13:33:14 -0000
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
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In article <1993Jan12.133543.14393@fy.chalmers.se> f92bjsa@fy.chalmers.se (Bjorn Sandberg) writes:
>I think that while traveling through hyperspace, it is a concern to minimize the ship's area, so that particles will hit the ship more seldom. I know, pulling the wings closer to the ship doesn't decrease the area, but what about hyperspace gas laws? A gap between the wings would probably cause a force backwards, with speed decrease as the result.
>
	Well, 1st post to this newsgroup. What's this buisness about H-Space
laws? H-Space gas laws? Just how does this H-Space work? Is it kinda like 
warp space, where 2 points in space are "warped" so as to be almost next to
each other, and the ship just skips across? Or is it a seperate dimension,
where Einsteinian laws don't apply, and speed of light is greater than c?
Personally, I think the wings spread out coz they look cool. I doubt yer
average audience is gonna really think about such esoteric stuff.

>Besides, it would be a little hard to land with the wings spread out...

	That's hard to land? Imagine trying to land a B-wing with its
wings open!

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Subject: Re: Harpoons (and At-Ats)
From: wookiee@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:06:17 -0600
 <1993Jan21.114553.2763@vax1.mankato.msus.edu> <1jmtuk$j0r@agate.berkeley.edu>
Organization: Mankato State University

In article <1jmtuk$j0r@agate.berkeley.edu>, sfd@soda.berkeley.edu (Scott Drellishak) writes:
 
> ...but this is silly.  I don't think we're intended to believe that
> the Rebel was making up a new name on the spot.  Just because I've
> never encountered a Harrier jump jet, that doesn't mean I can recognize
> one when I see it.                                        ^^^
                                                            |||
                                     I am assuming you mean can't here

> 
> So:  the fact that the Rebel recognized the walker doesn't prove they'd
> encountered them before -- but he's not just making up a name!

If he wasn't just making up the name, then why didn't he call them by their
name?  They are All-Terrain Armoured-Transports, or AT-ATs for short, but no
where in their name is the word walker.  Besides, I never meant for it to sound
like he was making up the name (even though it may have sounded like it) but
trying to point out to the earlier poster that just because some guy with
binoculars sees something and calls it something resembling what it is doesn't
mean that he has seen them before.
  
-- 

          "I have a new strategy, Artoo. Let the Wookiee win." - C3PO

          "Let the flesh control the mind." -Lestat deLioncourt

          "In the Troopers, it's always bowb your buddy week." - Bill

      If these were opinions, Mankato could care less that I had them, but
                            there not.

                  -wookiee@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
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Subject: Super SW and Film release timeline.
From: jpurcell@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: 23 Jan 93 11:33:20 CST
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
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     I just got through seeing Super Star Wars, and boy is it cool!

But then I thought...Why is all of this stuff coming up now?  possibly
to spur interest back in the trilogy to prepare for the upcoming movies.
Surely Nintendo will make Super Empire Strikes Back and ROTJ soon..
people will be foaming at the mouth to rent Star Wars after playing the 
game, and the the rest of the trilogy...and then, when the excitement
over SW is peaked, here comes Episode I!

	It will probably be the most seen film in History!  If what I
have said comes true!

	Oh, I ought to give up pharmacy and become a marketing resarch
analist:)

JP
From: abaker@jarthur.claremont.edu (The Evil One)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: x-wings??????   why?????
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:29:53 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711

In article <C1C6tz.2w9@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> flowerpt@coos.dartmouth.edu
 (Bill McGonigle) writes:
>
>		HOW HYPERSPACE WORKS
>		--------------------
>
>1. You get the coordinates from the nav computer.
>2. You let it make some calculations.
>3. You strap yourself in.
>4. You pull a lever.
>5. You get somewhere really fast.
>
>The movies don't tell us much:
>1. There is a hyperdrive motivator.  
>2. There is a negative power coupling.  
>3. Large celestial bodies have an effect on things in hyperspace but
>   small ones don't. (you can't fly through a star or bounce too close
>   to a supernova, but if you come out of hyperspace into a meteor shower,
>   that isn't a problem - at least while you're in hyperspace)
>4. You can't track a ship in hyperspace.
>5. You accelerate to hyperspace (startrails).
>6. Traveling in hyperspace looks nothing like real space.
>
>Did I miss anything?

You also have to pointed in the general direction you want to go.  Remember
in TESB, right after the MF latches onto the SD, someone says to calculate
all possible destinations from the MFs last known trajectory (not quite sure
of exactly what he said).

The Evil One
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From: "paul manson" <paul.manson@canrem.com>
Subject: shatner's tek war article
Reply-To: "paul manson" <paul.manson@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 23 Jan 93 15:17:57 EST

Cross posted to all Star Trek, TNG and DSN conferences on 93/01/23

The following article appeared in the Globe and Mail Newspaper
on Friday January 22, 1993

                SHATNER'S NOVELS COMING TO TV
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

TORONTO -- Toronto's Atlantis Films has linked up with
Universal Television in Los Angeles to produce a science-fiction
TV series based on four best-selling novels by actor William Shatner.

Tek War will begin as a two hour pilot, to be shot in
Toronto early this summer. Atlantis vice-president Peter Sussman
said yesterday that no broadcasters have been lined up yet,
but that the two companies are "confident we can place it fairly
easily." He said the projected series will go into first-run syndication
if a U.S. network or cable channel doesn't pick it up.

Shatner, star of the Star Trek TV and movie series,
will direct the pilot and "occasionally act in the project,"
according to a press release. He will also serve as co-executive
producer with Sussman.

Set in 2043, Tek War tells the story of a former cop who's
been unfairly jailed for peddling and illegal "electronic mind
stimulant technology" known as Tek. The TV series would
follow the ex-cop from the time of his prison release, as he
tracks down those who framed him.

Sussman said that the "very, very expensive" production
will require some special effects "that have never been
attempted on television."

Universal is responsible for such shows as Murder
She Wrote and Northern Exposure. Atlantis's credits include
the Diviners and Ray Bradbury Theatre. The companies
collaborated on Men, a short-lived 1989 drama series for ABC and CTV

The Globe and Mail [Canada's National Newspaper]
Toronto, Canada, Friday, January 22, 1993 STAFF 

               PAUL S. MANSON <=-CRS TORONTO CANADA-=>
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From:  (Proust)
Subject: Last lines...
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Organization: Computing & Information Systems, Yale University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 10:33:35 GMT


Has anyone noticed that in all three movies, Chewbacca has the last
line? (well, he goes awwwahrrr, in any case) It's pretty faint in
Return of the Jedi, but it's there...


"You, Mr. Quayle, are no Jack Kennedy. You're a space station..."


-Proust
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From: sche7135@mach1.wlu.ca (Scott Schelter u)
Subject: Dark Horse: TALES OF THE JEDI
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:35:39 GMT

       In one of their other releases, Dark Horse said that they would
be running their first TALES OF THE JEDI story in their Dark Horse
Presents comic/forum. They said that in would run in issues 7, 8, and 9
or something to that effect. Does anyone no the approximate release date
of these issues (have I already missed it? June? December? When...)
I'm sure that a lot of people who read this group would appreciate knowing
when to do look in their local comics specialty shop.

                     Scott Schelter
                     sche7135@mach1.wlu.ca

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From: joshuali@phakt.usc.edu (Joshua Ling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: 35mm rights to ...Empire & ...Jedi
Date: 21 Jan 1993 09:21:21 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <C17Jt7.1pG@brunel.ac.uk> cs91eeb@brunel.ac.uk (Erik Bussink) writes:
>We have here on Campus a film society and we wanted to show the trilogy,
>but we where surprised to learn that we could only get the first film, as
>the rights to the second and the third had been removed, is there any
>explanation ? Note that it's the same as trying to get the
>first version of 'Bladerunner'

That's because ESB abd Jedi were pulled from rental companies last year.
If you have access to the studio and it's prints that's different. We
plan on showing the trilogy this weekend.....8-)



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From: roy@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Hyperspace and the Death Star
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 12:56:55 GMT
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Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In <108215@bu.edu> athas@buphy.bu.edu (Gregory Athas) writes:
>This has nagged me for a while, and since I'm 1000 miles from my copy of ANH (novelization);  If we assume that the falcon escaped by going into hyperspace to get to Yavin, and it was tracked by the imperials (details of this have been a continuing threa
d here)  can the Death Star go into hyperspace?  Otherwise it would have probably been a myserably long journy to Yavin.  So how much time did the rebels have until they would become interstellar dust?  The movie gives the impression of not too many h
>
>
>
>
>
>Greg

Hey, yah, Greg... Please try hitting 'Enter/CR' key more often.
Run-on lines are a pain to many.

Regards,
Tom Rogers
roy@trigger.watson.ibm.com
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From: dxg6476@hertz.njit.edu (David Gray)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Another error?
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:04:22 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1993Jan06.172611.22160@watson.ibm.com> roy@trigger.watson.ibm.com writes:
>In <1993Jan06.132959.25465@watson.ibm.com> roy@watson.ibm.com writes:
>
>Here is something that might not be an error, but is hard to explain:
>
>   In TESB, Han is lowered into the carbon-freeze chamber hands bound
>   behind his back in cuffs.
>
>   We see Han's face grimace as the carbon-freeze is activated and plums
>   of gas rise out of the chamber.  Han's hands are still bound behind
>   his back.
>
>   When the frozen Han is displayed, his hands are clearly in front
>   of him.  No cuffs!  Also, there are no cuffs on either hand when
>   he is thawed by Leia in ROTJ.
>
>The question is:  "What happened to the cuffs?"
>
>Regards,
>Tom Rogers
>roy@trigger.watson.ibm.com
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This is not an error.  If you watch closely, Han's hands are never tied behind  his back, but rather in front.  He also has a restraint around his upper arms/  chest.  Just before He is lowered into the pit, one of the stormtroopers removeshis wrist restraints, but not the upper body one.  His hands were free.

                                                Dave
From: littaum@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (Mike Littau)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Wedge's relative owned R2?
Date: 23 Jan 1993 01:37:34 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University
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In article <jthorpe1-210193191617@mac4.mccabe5.swarthmore.edu> jthorpe1@cc.swarthmore.edu (jere7my tho?rpe) writes:
>Also, who does Leia think her father is?  She mentions him in the hologram
>in the first movie, but we all know now it's really Darth Vader...  (The
>gist of the quote was something like "Obi-Wan, you helped my father in the
>Clone Wars.  Now he needs your help on Alderaan...")  Was she adopted? 
>(Luke knows his "parents" are reall Aunt and Uncle...)

Well, if you want to get technical, Obi-Wan *DID* help Leia's father (IE-
Anakin Skywalker, Pre-Darth Vader) in the Clone wars.  If Obi-Wan Kenobi
wasn't a jedi, I would have suggested that he work for the smoking industry.
He seems rather good at "fulfilling the letter of the law, if not the
spirit." :)  

But in ROTJ, Leia has only faint recollection of her mom (and Luke has
no memory of her), and (I think) neither had any memory of their father.
They only knew whatever their guardians told them.

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From: lars4752@mach1.wlu.ca (Bradley Larsen u)
Subject: Re: Darth Vadar
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:57:20 GMT

In article <30PPXB6w166w@hogbbs.scol.pa.us> crunch@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Travis Prebble) writes:
>joshuali@aludra.usc.edu (Joshua Ling) writes:
>
>> In article <1993Jan20.221231.12944@unocal.com> stsslxs@st.unocal.com (Luis Sa
>> >I heard that DARTH is an anagram for DARK LORD OF HOTH. Can anyone else 
>> >                                     ^^^            ^^
>> >confirm/dispute this? 
>> 
>> ??????????????????????????????????????????
>> I think that I may quit reading this newsgroup......
>> 
>> ..I can't take it anymore.....
>> 
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>
>Don't give up yet.  Odd questions exist and we must confront them... Use 
>the Force if you must, but persevere! ;)
>
>Anyway, wasn't Vader also known as Dark Lord of the Sith?  Something like 
>that...
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x
This is a double whammy, isn't it Josh?   

I second your motion of quitting reading this newsgroup.
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From: gmclain@lonestar.utsa.edu (Glenn A. Mclain)
Subject: DAVID PROWSE INTERVIEW & TOY SPECIAL
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:59:43 GMT

    On the news-stands now is the #15 issue of Collectible Toys & Values.
This magazine is published by Attic Books LTD.  This special issue includes
an interesting interview with David Prowse, and a large section devoted to
SW toys.  I'm sure some of you trivia buffs can get a great deal of info out
of it.

Glenn........


-- 
Glenn McLain, still trying to find a job with a title to put in my sig.
From: crunch@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Travis Prebble)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: New movie or just books
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 15:04:47 EST
Organization: The Heart of Gold BBS, Lemont PA

wag5@quads.uchicago.edu (john peter wagner) writes:

> 
> 	I wonder how Lucas will present the Ysalimiri?  It seems
> kind of hard to imagine a movie successfully presenting the power
> of a few worms. Of course, I'm sure Zahn will give him some good
> advice.  The 'pirate haven' could cost Lucas a lot to build in Episode
> 7, what with all the equipment and spare parts that will have to be
> fabricated for the scene.
> 
> 					John
> :Look! 5 tabs! I must be someone else!
> 

Please see other messages in here concerning Zahn's books: They are NOT 
the next three episodes of the Star Wars saga, and I'm sure many, many, 
MANY people will affirm this. :)


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From: roy@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Harrison Ford Movies
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:09:49 GMT
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In <eDkwXB4w165w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> quantum@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Blake Matthews) writes:
>Does anybody know the complete list of movies Harrison Ford starred in?
>
>You'll find out I'm full of surprises.
>                                        Luke Skywalker to Darth Vader
>                                        EMPIRE STRIKES BACK


Well, I can remember the following, but it ain't a definitive full list:

 American Graffiti
 Star Wars
 Hanover Street (I think?)
 Raiders of the Lost Ark
 The Empire Strikes Back
 Witness
 Blade Runner
 Indiana Jones and the Temple of Toom
 Return of the Jedi
 Working Girl
 Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
 Presumed Innocent (and the forgettable mystery thriller before that)
 Regarding Henry
 Patriot Games

I think I only remembererd the good ones :-)

I wanna add the "Guns of Navarone" (sp?) but I am not sure it it is correct.

Regards,
Tom Rogers
roy@trigger.watson.ibm.com
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 11:34:48 -0500 
From: "Jason P. Plank" <jp66+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Silly Rumour

The "silly rumour" is true.  Although I have never been able to point
out the tennis racket in the Imperial garbage in the ESB or the Potato
in the Asteriod field in the same movie, I did read in an interview with
the people at Industrial Light and Magic (this interview was in the
Official Star Wars Fan Club newsletter) that the above mentioned were
filmed in with the rest of the special effects as an inside joke.

Later,
J Plank