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From: pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: BOOKS: Brian Daley & Alan Dean Foster.
Date: 23 Jul 92 22:02:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Jul23.150242.311
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

In <mcdonghj.711885013@unix2.tcd.ie>
mcdonghj@unix2.tcd.ie (Nascent Virion.....) writes:

>I was tidying out my bookshelves for the first time in years
>and I idcovered  that I had Splinter of the Minds Eye  and the 3
>Han Solo books.
>SofME was pretty dire. I've never really liiked ADF stuff but I thought
>this was pretty lame and didn't really stand up. Though from what I
>heard on the news group Zahn uses a similar sort of crystal in his books.
>I thought however the Han Solo books by B. Daley were fabulous. 
>Well thought out books with a really superb storyline.
>I liked Gallandro and particularly lioked the ending of the 2nd book
>'Han Solos Revenge' where he captures the Authorities head & captures
>Gallandro. Oh well. I'll have to get the Zahn books next, though from what
>I heard I am not waiting too anxiously.
>I have read the first 3 Dark Empire comics and they are not great by any 
>means. The story is OK. But that is all. Give me comic  strips like
>'The Crimson Forever' anyday.
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>-John Mc Donagh.                   ~~                         {Nascent Virion}
>mcdonghj@unix2.tcd.ie              ~~         "I dress my tears in costumes.."
>				   ~~
>"I'd end this moment to be with you through morphic oceans." -Carl McCoy


Uugh!  I could not stand the Brian Daley, "Han Solo" books. I just thought
this he took the characters totally out of their element and the stories
were way too bland..No believable action...Ok, "Star's End" was so-so, with
a couple of good parts, but mostly not...

I *DID* like, "Splinter on the Mind's Eye", even though I ma NOT a Foster
Fan by any means. It was a reasonably good story, and the characters were
at least well thought out....The idea that a crystal can magnift the Force
is possible, but not the whole basis for the the Jedi...

The Zahn books are pretty good, It did take a little bit to orient myself
to being after Jedi, with no Vader, etc., but overall not to bad, and the
second one is a little better--I like Talon Karrde, and would like to see
him cros over into the comics...

Dave
From: joshuali@aludra.usc.edu (Joshua Ling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: ADDED scene?  Also: Luke/Vader relationship question
Date: 30 Jul 1992 10:36:37 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <1bO702v41cEF01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> beh10@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Barry Holsinger) writes:
>
>On a markedly different topic:  Where in the trilogy did Luke first come face to face
>with Vader?  I know Ben told Luke that a young Jedi named Darth Vader had killed Luke's
>father, but did Luke know what Vader LOOKED LIKE?  Poor Luke witnessed Kenobi get cut
>down by Vader on the DS, but is there any particular reason Luke KNEW who that tall
>black dude was?

Maaybe Luke asked Leia after they boarded the Falcon on the Death Star I.
Could you imagine.....

Luke:"He taught me so much...."
Leia:"He was a great help to us all. Without his and YOUR help the Rebellion
	may have never had a second chance. Now we will survive."
Luke:"Who was that in the black robes?"
Leia:"THAT was Vader, it's because of him that I was captured......"
Luke:"Vader?!? ...He killed my father...." (In shock)
Leia:"Your father?..... Luke I'm sorry.."
Luke:"First my father, now Ben...I can't believe he's gone....."
Leia:"There wasn't anything you could have done."

etc.

-joshuali@usc.edu
Organization: Penn $tate Univer$ity
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 00:10:44 EDT
From: Brian Panulla, MooCow <BJP108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Bounty Hunters

From Marvel Comics:

Valance the Hunter - #16, 27, 29. Impie Seargent turned Cyborg Hunter.


From Brian Daley:

Uuul-Ra-Shan (sp) - Reptilian gunman for hire in HS at Star's End

Gallandro - gunman for hire/ Corporate Stooge in HS's Revenge



That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

There's also a cyborg hunter from the upcomming SW Classic comics
(the one they "ran into on Ord Mantell"), but I don't remeber his name.

Let me guess: looking for RPG inspiration for your Bounty Hunter character?
Hee hee. Good hunting.
______
Brian Panulla                                              Hail Sinfonia!
"Wash day tomorrow. Give me your clothes!" - Cyberdyne Systems Model 101
bjp108 @ psuvm.psu.edu / ender @ vivaldi.psu.edu / panulla @ math.psu.edu
(The opinions expressed above are mine alone, and do not reflect those of)
(Penn State University, or the Center for Academic Computing, so there!  )
From: joshuali@aludra.usc.edu (Joshua Ling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Who didn't get figures made of them?
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:46:32 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <1992Jul27.230820.11938@cs.unca.edu> mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) writes:
>They made hydrospanners -- came with the Vehicle Maintainence 
>Energizer.

TOTALLY forgot about those.  

Back to STUPID....

What about some of those mini-rigs? Granted, some WERE cool but others were
stupid.  Like the PDT-8.  You had to stand up in it. Yeah like that would
work.  Figures though, they ceased production of that one early.

They should make a Bacta Tank playset....just a thought.

-joshuali@usc.edu
From: ss@realsoon.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Radio Show release. On CD??
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:49:17 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute

When the radio shows are released commercially, will they be available
on CD, or just cassette?
-- 
                        Scott Streeter
                        ss@wpi.wpi.edu
From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: FTP site needed ... for ...
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:09:11 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

...ESB cards -- Adam Talcott may scan some with his color
Apple scanner -- and it would be positively groovy to have 
a place to make them accessible.

Anyone willing?

Scott
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From: dkemper@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu (David Kemper)
Subject: Re: Lapti Nek
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4  
Reply-To: dkemper@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu
Organization: University of Administrative Incompetence
Distribution:  world
Date: 23 JUL 92 19:30:23    

In article <l6u71dINNd19@aludra.usc.edu>, joshuali@aludra.usc.edu (Joshua Ling) writes...
>In article <23JUL92133422@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu> dkemper@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu writes:
>Are you sure that the Cantina version on the original soundtrack is not the
>same as the version in the movie?  I'm pretty sure that it IS the same thing.

Fairly certain, but I wouln't put too many credits on it.  I remember when 
I first heard the soundtrack, I thought that all those bits with the 
clarinet solo and stuff must have been in the movie, and that I had just 
never heard them because I was paying more attention to the dialog.  When I 
went back and listened to the movie, not only was the movie version much 
shorter (to be expected), it sounded much more "unearthly."  In contrast, 
the soundtrack version had clearly identifiable earth instruments 
(clarinet, steel drum, snare drum, etc.)  Now, this may have just been some 
sound-effects gimmicking, but it does seem to be a slightly different 
sound.

>There is a second tune that is played in the cantina when Luke and Ben are
>talking with Han that is different from the main tune.  If this is what you 
>mean, I too have not heard any recording of it outside the film.

Yeah, I know about that one too; you only hear a few seconds worth of it.  
As far as I know the movie is the only place it appears.  I'd hum some of 
it for those of you who don't know what I'm talking about, but that doesn't 
come across too well over the net.

>-joshuali@usc.edu

--Gallandro

  From 1964:
  Reporter: "What do you think of the campaign in Detroit to stamp out the
             Beatles?"
  Paul McCartney: "We've got a campaign of our own to stamp out Detroit."
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From: dkemper@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu (David Kemper)
Subject: Re: Star Wars vs. Star Trek, tech & tactics, etc.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4  
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Organization: University of Administrative Incompetence
Distribution:  world
Date: 24 JUL 92 20:21:41    

In article <BrwD6H.2Dz@watserv1.waterloo.edu>, rlbell@babbage.waterloo.edu (Richard Bell) writes...
>The effectiveness of the first Death Star's shields, and of imperial shields
>in general, still lend credence to the conclusion that they inadequitely 
>screen the Death Star from phasers, photon torpedoes, and transporter delivered
>anti-matter bombs.  Besides, it was a FULLY OPERATIONAL Death Star [emphasis
>mine], and the Millenium Falcon still penetrated its useless shields.   

A few comments.  First, when the Emperor made his "fully operational battle 
station" gloat, I assumed he referred to its offensive capabilities... I 
mean, it obviously wasn't FULLY operational since it wasn't even completed 
yet.  Secondly, why should we believe ANYTHING the Emperor says; he was 
trying to demoralize Luke in order to convert him and that statement, true 
or not, suited his needs at the time.  And finally, "fully operational" 
does not necessarily equate to "fully operating"; even if the DS's own 
shields (assuming their existence of course) were operational, they may 
have been deactivated at the time, since the shield generator was 
supposedly there to protect the battle station.

Any way you look at it, nothing could get through the shield generated on 
Endor, or the Rebels certainly would have tried.

--Gallandro

  From 1964:
  Reporter: "What do you think of the campaign in Detroit to stamp out the
             Beatles?"
  Paul McCartney: "We've got a campaign of our own to stamp out Detroit."
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From: nab4574@zeus.tamu.edu (Neil Alan Burleson)
Subject: Re: Ben's Age
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:35:00 GMT

In article <3813@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, tmkst6@pitt.edu (Theodore M Kostek) writes...
> 
>Some one posted question about Ben's age.  I didn't manage to get all
>the interesting ideas in my message here :( but here's a thought:
>in RotJ, Luke says to Yoda "You can't die."  Yoda replies with "Strong am
>I with the Force, but not that strong."  I always took this to imply that 
>being adept with the Force lengthened one's life, and that if you were
>really, really good you might even live forever.  
> 

This may just be nit-picking. I always understood it to imply that
even the force wasn't strong enough to put off the inevitable. I
just assumed that Yoda's species had a long life span and Yoda was
just saying "I may be good, but I'm not that good."

+------------------------+------------------------+-------------------+
| Neil Burleson   Texas A&M Univerity,  College Station, Texas  USA   |
+------------------------|     neilb@tamu.edu     |  nab4574@tamzeus  |
                         +------------------------+-------------------+
"Taste and see that the LORD is good;
       blessed is the man who takes refuge in Him."  -- Psalm 34:8
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From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Subject: 'Prune Face', real edits, and other bogosity
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:44:44 GMT

1) Where is 'Prune Face' in RotJ? I *swear* I've never ever seen him.
   Is he with Jabba, or with the Rebels? I have the backing card
   for that figure, but can't place the background.

2) Anyone watch CBS' recent murder of ESB and RotJ? Talk about
   EDITING! Every other line was cut! How can they get away
   with that?

3) Watching 2, I pinned down 90% of the Jabba's court figures.
   Squid Head, and other fine galactic citizens :)

   Where did they get names like 'Klaatu', 'Weequay', and others
   not mentioned in the movie? From a script?

4) What is the name of Greedo's race?

   (Frog Face, Frog Head? :^))

Scott

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From: lim@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Julie Lim)
Subject: Re: Non-canon fan fiction ahead (long)
Keywords: (Remember, I warned you.)
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:30:54 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.130425.19457@cs.nott.ac.uk> nlc@vulcan.xtel.co.uk (Neil Cook) writes:
>In article <1992Jul27.052917.16811@udel.edu>, lim@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Julie Lim) writes:
>|>      "When did I lie to you? Your friend Kenobi fought Anakin
>|> Skywalker and left him for dead. My people found him laid out like
>|> bracken on the edge of a lava pit, and for a long time, his
>|> survival was a very iffy thing-- hence the indictment of you and
>|> General Kenobi."    ^^^^ ^^^^^
>
>Not a bad story, but "iffy thing"? Come on, I think we can do better than that!


	Well, foo. Actually, this diction slip was pointed out to me earlier,
and I changed it in my original WP document. But there is no way in hell I
could do that in vi, and I can't upload it again.


-- 
MUDname: Sidera           "...If I seem to give a damn, please tell me. I would
University of Delaware      hate to be giving the wrong impression."
From: horizon@eebbs.isis.org (Ali Azarbar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Official Announcement
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 22:43:05 EST
Organization: Electronic Encounters BBS

I heard something about an official announcement in a Los Angeles 
newspaper/newsmagazine, and on some American (probably LA) TV station that 
Lucasfilm Ltd. has officially announced a new three-part prequel trilogy. No 
dates specified. Is this true? Anyone heard of this?
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: elee9tv@rosie.uh.edu (DANIEL)
Subject: Star Wars Picture disc
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 20:29:00 GMT

	I went to Sound Exchange yesterday and found two picture discs.
    1. one with Darth Vader
    2. another with cp30
			both were "the story of star wars"
		they were both $8. Is it worth getting both?

 Dan
From: tmkst6+@pitt.edu (Theodore M Kostek)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Explosions - Just A thought
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:40:42 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <92203.125140PMETCALF@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> PMETCALF@MAINE.MAINE.EDU writes:
>If there is no oxygen in space, how come there are massive explosions
>when something is blown up? I'm going on the assumpsion that you need
>oxygen to support combustion.
>Anybody else have any suggestions? Just my 2 cents worth.
>
>Peter

1 - if they are using a chemical propellant (not too likely) then they have
	to be carrying their own oxygen
2 - they might be using some kind of nuclear reaction, which would not
	require any oxygen since it isn't a chemical reaction
3 - it looks so much cooler to have stuff explode with clouds and debris
	and lights and stuff that Lucas just couldn't pass it up


Some off the cuff thoughts.



				TEd
From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Falcon en route to Bespin
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:55:09 GMT
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com

In article <SS.92Jul20140112@wpi.WPI.EDU> ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)  
writes:
> >>>>> On 20 Jul 92 16:36:59 GMT, bailey@emunix.emich.edu (Grand Moff  
Tarkin) said:
> 
> bailey> Because the Falcon has a backup hyperdrive that can be used in
> bailey> emergencies.  But it is sort of like one of those doughnut
> bailey> tires that can only be used for a short period of time.
> 
> Where did you come up with this??? The Falcon just flew to Bespin at
> best speed. If it took a month, so what! Remember Luke was in training
> at Yoda's all this time. What do you think, he spent the weekend
> there? He must have been there a month or 2 at least....

A month or two at sublight speed is NOT going to get you between
star systems.

The explanation I see is that Lucas and company made the classic
blunder that so many other movie and TV producers have made. They
really have no grasp at how big space is, and how far it really
is between star systems, so that you can't easily drop in on 
a system "next door" since next door, even for near by star system,
is a couple of light years and thus at least a couple of years
away at sub-light speeds.

--
Jim Mann       jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com  Stratus Computer
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From: wyman@rtsg.mot.com (Mark S. Wyman)
Subject: HTTE SourceBook Out?
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 15:19:44 GMT

I heard this was out for the Role PLaying game.  Can
anyone confirm this and if possible let us know how
it is.

Mark Wyman
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From: dennis@citr.uq.oz.au (Dennis Remmer)
Subject: Bounty Hunters
Summary: List Wanted
Keywords: Star Wars
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:31:56 GMT

Greetings,

Can somebody list all the bounty hunters from the 3 movies please.

If you're really keen, I'd also like to know of any non-movie (i.e comic
or novel) bounty hunters.

I really enjoyed the Marvel comic post-ROTJ where Boba Fett returns briefly to 
the fray (I think it also covers a bit of Fett's history in terms of his race).
I'd appreciate a summary of each Hunters' background if possible.

many thanks

--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
       Dennis Remmer - dennis@citr.uq.oz.au - DennisR@syacus.acus.oz
    Australian Centre for Unisys Software, Brisbane Queensland Australia
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From: elee9tv@elroy.uh.edu (DANIEL)
Subject: Re: Who didn't get figures made of them?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:40:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.154856.7780@cs.unca.edu>, mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) writes...
>Well, a lot of people, some a lot more important than others:
> 
>* Mon Mothma -- *the* rebel leader, after all
> 
>* several droids at the sandcrawler, though they didn't lend
>  themselves to figures (FX-7 didn't either, but it was a figure!)
> 
>* Owen & Beru
> 
>* Biggs :^)
> 
>* Wedge (and all the other pilots)
> 
>* the spy following Luke & Ben thru Mos Eisley to the Falcon
> 
>Who are some others? 
> 

	* the rest of the Ewoks   (heh...heh)

	* more rebels in the stupid poncho outfits

	* Princess leia in that two piece outfit in RotJ

	* Darth Vader in his bubble bath swimming trunks


dan
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From: dkemper@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu (David Kemper)
Subject: Re: Lapti Nek
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4  
Reply-To: dkemper@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu
Organization: University of Administrative Incompetence
Date: 23 JUL 92 13:34:22    

In article <l6tm9eINNsa1@aludra.usc.edu>, joshuali@usc.edu (Joshua Ling) writes...
>Does anyone know why the version of Lapti Nek that is sung in Jedi and the
>version on the soundtrack are different?  I always wanted to find copy
>of the one sung in the film.

Yeah, same with the Cantina Band's song in ANH.  (Why don't they have a 
cool name like "Sy Snootles and the Rebo Band" do?)  Thing is, in both 
cases I like the soundtrack versions better.  But yeah, it would be 
interesting to hear the movie versions in their entirety.

--Gallandro

  From 1964:
  Reporter: "What do you think of the campaign in Detroit to stamp out the
             Beatles?"
  Paul McCartney: "We've got a campaign of our own to stamp out Detroit."
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: dkemper@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu (David Kemper)
Subject: Action Figures (was Re: Death Star Shields)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4  
Reply-To: dkemper@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu
Organization: University of Administrative Incompetence
Distribution: all
Date: 28 JUL 92 19:33:38    

In article <1992Jul28.041724.9318@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, sjm8118@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes...
>   Also, I seem to recall that at one point that there was, in fact, a Grand 
>Moff Tarkin action figure.  A friend and I always ranked that way up there for
>lamest figure, as he didn't (I believe) come with any sort of gun.  My friend
>believes that he actually came with some sort of pointer!  He however is prone
>to exaggeration.  Personally, I kinda dig Tarkin.

Or perhaps he's thinking of General Madine, who came with a pointer.

What WAS that thing that Admiral Ackbar came with?

--Gallandro

  From 1964:
  Reporter: "What do you think of the campaign in Detroit to stamp out the
             Beatles?"
  Paul McCartney: "We've got a campaign of our own to stamp out Detroit."
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From: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
Subject: Re: SCRIPT : NEW HOPE
Reply-To: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 11:33:30 GMT



I'm going to officially withdraw from this arguement.

I would, however, like to make it perfectly clear that I am 
NOT pulling out because I have been out-argued -- I haven't --
but because Wagner's arguement has degenerated into gibberish,
and I have more valuable things to do with my time than point
it up to him.  My sledghammer arm is tired.

But because I am not a vengeful person, I am going to hereby
post the hope that no-one he cares about ever dies because drug
companies didn't think they could recover their R&D costs due
to pharmaceutical piracy.  Happens all the time, I'm afraid.  People
like Wagner who think they're entitled to anything that falls in
their lap copy drugs on the market, drug companies can't recover
their R&D.  So the only drugs that get developed are the ones
with such a mass need they can't lose.

So those with rare diseases suffer, die, and are buried.

Congratulations, Mr. Wagner.  

-- 
             TJ Goldstein    tlg4@Cleveland.Freenet.Edu
      Assistant Sysop, Science Fiction and Fantasy SIG  (GO SCIFI)
--------------------   "Don't try to outweird me.   --------------------
 I get stranger things than you free in my breakfast cereal." -- Zaphod
From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Who didn't get figures made of them?
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:01:01 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

crunch@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Travis Prebble) writes:
: Were toy version of the A and B wing fighters ever released?  I know I 
: had the models, but I don't recall any neato toys with flashing lights 
: and odd sound effects. :-)

Yeah! I have booklets with them in them, and I know I saw a B-wing
on sale and advertized on TV. 

The B-wing had a cockpit that stayed level no matter how
the ship was turned!

Scott
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