From: jodar@girtab.usc.edu (Nicholas Jodar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Kuffar or former gaurdians ?
Date: 11 Nov 1992 20:20:05 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu
Summary: What's wrong with this picture...?
Keywords: Reality Check

Assalamu Alaikum....

Auzu Billahi Min Ash-Shaitan Nirajeem.  Bismillah...

In article <1992Nov11.174925.9340@wam.umd.edu> endevour@next04csc.wam.umd.edu (Afghan) writes:

>Now let us talk about these Kuffar that you are so sensitive about. 
>Obviously you are refering to western countries particularly United 
>States. First of all they are not Kuffar since they are "Ahle-Ketab".

Excuse me?

I'm afraid your information is inaccurate....  At last estimate,
or the almost five million people living in the U.S., there were
one million Jews, one million Christians, and one million
Muslims.  The other two million people are atheists or agnostics.

Of those who call themselves Christians, my own limited 
experience has shown me that only ten percent of these might be 
considered 'Ahle-Ketab.'  The rest would more properly be known 
as Nicolaitans, but most Christians can't tell the difference.

Of that two percent of Americans who might be considered 'Ahle
Kitab,' virtually all of them are opposed to the government and
its policies.  Why?  Because the government is Kufr.

In this instance, I feel I know more about this subject than you
do, but Allah (AWJ) knows best the reality of the situation.

>It should be us, the Afghan peaple, the same peaple who have Islam 
>merged into the very fabric of their society, who have the right to call
>into question the western strategy in Afghanistan. 

I disagree.  It should be ALLAH SABHANA WA TA'AALA who has the 
right to call into question the Western strategy in Afghanistan.

What does Allah (SWT) say in regards to involvement of
non-muslims in muslim affairs?  'His' message is very clear,
even in the english translation:

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'O ye who believe!  Take not for protectors your fathers and your
brothers if they love Infidelity above Faith:  If any of you do
so, they do wrong.'  
[9:23]

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'Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold
that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His
Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the
People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing
submission, and feel themselves subdued.'  
[9:29]

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'They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords
in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ, the
son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One God:
there is no god but He.  Praise and glory to Him:  (Far is He)
from having the partners they associate (with Him).

'Fain would they extinguish Allah's Light with their mouths, but
Allah will not allow but that His Light should be perfected, even
though the Unbelievers may detest (it).'  
[9:31-32]

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'O ye who believe!  Turn not (for friendship) to people on whom
is the Wrath of Allah.  Of the Hereafter they are already in
despair, just as the Unbelievers are in despair about those
(buried) in graves.'  
[60:13]

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'O ye who believe!  Take not into your intimacy those outside
your ranks:  they will not fail to corrupt you.  They only desire
your ruin:  rank hatred has already appeared from their mouths:
what their hearts conceal is far worse.  We have made plain to
you the Signs, if ye have wisdom.

'Ah!  Ye are those who love them, but they love you not -- though
ye believe in the whole of the Book, when they meet you, they say
'We believe':  but when they are alone, they bite off the very
tips of their fingers at you in their rage.  Say:  "Perish in
your rage;  Allah knoweth well all the secrets of the heart."'
[3:118-119]

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'O ye who believe!  If ye obey the Unbelievers, they will drive
you back on your heels, and ye will turn back (from Faith) to
your own loss.'  
[3:149]

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'O ye who believe!  Take not for friends Unbelievers rather than
Believers:  do ye wish to offer Allah an open proof against
yourselves?'  
[4:144]

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'O ye who believe!  Take not for friends and protectors those who
take your religion for a mockery or sport -- Whether among those
who received the Scripture before you, or among those who reject
Faith; but fear ye Allah, if ye have Faith (indeed).'  
[5:57]

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And let's not forget the whole of Surah Al Mumtahinah (60)....
Allah (SWT) warns us over and over and over again that
NON-MUSLIMS SHOULD NOT GOVERN THE AFFAIRS OF MUSLIMS.  And yes, 
this also includes the 'Ahle Kitab.'  Have we forgotten the 
fact that the Unbelievers 'won't stop until they've turned [us] 
from [our] Religion'...?

AND THE WORDS OF ALLAH ARE TRUE....

>Islam and Watan. Two million Afghans died to free the mother land 
>from alien domination. Islam is already merged into the fabric
>of Afghan society and Afghan culture is an Islamic culture. 

It would seem that the Islam you say is merged into the fabric of 
your culture isn't the same Islam Allah (SWT) sent down....  You 
also say:

>And we, 
>the Afghans will do anything in our power to safegaurd our culture, 
>our religion against a noisy minority who tend to redefine Islam in 
>order to suit their purposes. 

How can you say what apparrently goes against the philosophy of
Islam?  Islam is the only Religion, and it needs no safeguard,
only people to PRACTICE it.  You, the Afghans, have no power
whatsoever.  La Haula Wa La Quwatta Illah Billah.  You cannot
safeguard 'your culture,' nor 'your religion,' and in any case,
Allah (SWT) should come first. 

I make this point only because you then say:

>Afghanistan will have a milli, Islami, self determined government elected
>by the triditional Afghan system of LOYA GIRGA. 

Whatever happened to ISLAM?  The problem with the various
governments in the world is that they do not have an ISLAMIC
government!  Where do you see the Majlis Al-Shura?  Where is the
Khalifa?  Where do you see the people adhering to the Shariat?

Nowhere.

I would HOPE that the Afghanis would learn by everybody else's
mistake that Islam is the only real answer....

>Any way Dostum can not be totally ignored. A compromise
>is in place because he is there and forcing him to do something he is not
>willing to will lead to blood shed and even partition of Afghanistan. We
>do not want that to happen.

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'Should they intend to deceive thee -- verily Allah sufficeth
thee:  He it is that hath strengthened thee with His aid and with
(the company of) the Believers;

'And (moreover) He hath put affection betwen their hearts:  Not
if thou hadst spent all that is in the earth couldst thou have
produced that affection, but Allah hath done it:  for He is
Exalted in Might, Wise.

'O Prophet!  Sufficient unto thee is Allah -- (unto thee) and
unto those who follow thee among the Believers.'  
[8:62-64]

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If you still think that it is acceptable to compromise with
Shaitan, then you either have not read the Word of Allah (SWT),
or you are rejecting it.  If Hekmatyar says he's a muslim, he
should be treated like one.

>For the Afghans, for us, both Hekmatyar and Dostum derserve the hangman's
>rope. They are both war crminals. We pray that Allah get rid of both of
>them and return peace and prosperity to our homeland. 

Amin!  But we can't expect Allah (SWT) to do it while we remain
standing around picking our noses.  Allah (SWT) never helps
anybody until they make an effort.  Even Musa (AS) needed to use
his stick before the Red Sea parted....

If we want to accomplish something, we have to make the intention,
trust Allah (SWT), and then take whatever steps are necessary.
We have the easy part; it's up to Allah (AWJ) to take care of the
results....

-AQ

[I beg Allah's forgiveness for my weakness and insufficiency in ]
['His' service, and I ask for his protection from Shaitan and   ]
[from my own Desires.  None can protect me except Allah.  If I  ]
[have made any errors, I beg Allah to bring them to my attention]
[so that they may be corrected.  If I have made none, then it is]
[only through the Grace of Allah and all praise is due only to  ]
['Him.'                                                         ]

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