From: psg+@pitt.edu (Paul S Galvanek)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Education Regarding Alternative Family Units (Re: The Analogy Betwixt Gays & Blacks (Re: Children in Samegender Families))
Date: 5 Jan 93 19:18:37 GMT
Followup-To: alt.politics.clinton
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

>	And, you didn't slap the kid silly for berating Homos?  I mean
>you seem so concerned about curbing the tendency of violence towards
>Gays.  You didn't at least talk to your boy, and provide moral guidance
>from a parent (rather than from a school)?  

Exactly where did you suppose that it was my son that made these comments?
It wasn't him and since I'm not in the habit of correcting other people's
children (I'll leave that to the liberal school teachers 8^) I was very 
content to simply observe this very interesting conversation...

>
>	Why didn't you make it a point to watch The Real World so that
>you could inform the kids that there's only one "gay" man on the show,
>and that he's actually bisexual, and that the six other people on the
>show who share the details of their dating lives are heterosexuals?

Frankly because I wouldn't waste my time watching the kinda of garbage
that MTV generates.  And I think you missed the point.  Whether there
was one homosexual on the show or a dozen is meaningless.  The tone
and the level of hostility in the conversation was though, since it was
pretty clear that no matter how many are there the fact that they are 
driven from the tv by the presence of just one is a pretty clear indicator
to me that even at the ripe old age 10 or 12, these kids are pretty 
fed up with the whole matter.  

>	Why didn't you take the opportunity to tell them that perhaps it's 
>inappropriate for people to be taking about their heterosexual dating
>and sex experiences? 
>

Again, why do read anything you want into my postings?  Did I say anything
about inappropriateness of the subject?  I think it's very appropriate for
kids that age to be talking about such things.  I'm simply relating my
expierience, which indicates to me that the whole notion on which teaching
about alternative lifestyles in school is based (that being, if we expose
children to the issues early enough they'll grow up thinking it's normal)
is a bunch of hooey!  

If anything's normal in this situation it's that young boys hearing or seeing 
two men engaging in a physical relationship and be repulsed by it is 
normal.  Sorry if those real life situations don't click with what you
want to be the result of the latest psycobabble based ideas, but that's
what your getting.  

The kids may not know how to assign words or descriptions but they seem
to me to be very aware none-the-less of the battles being fought for their
minds and they're reacting very appropriately.     

>	Maybe they're mistaken in the wager they place.  And maybe you're
>wrong in the one you place.
>

But you still don't see the difference between my wage and theirs do you?
The difference is that they're gambling with my children's futures and I
will do what ever it takes to see to it there's counter to the radical
views my kids are exposed to in school, anything!  And I don't really care
anymore if that means some group that has no respect for my rights as
a parent gets tiffed.  

The classroom is a battleground for control of my kids' mind?  Fine!  
But I plan to win the war for their sakes, no matter what the cost.

PSG

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