HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mccorry@ecn.purdue.edu (Steven E. McCorry)
Subject: Help getting started!
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 04:12:44 GMT

Hi,  I have a question that I hope someone can answer for me.  The other day,  a
friend of mine was talking about playing netrek on the system.  I was wondering 
what files I need to retrieve to get started and their location.
	To put it simply, how do I get in on the game?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Steve          (mccorry@cn.ecn.purdue.edu)

-Wake me when the fun ends.
Organization: Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.games.xtrek
Date: Wed,  7 Oct 1992 00:27:32 -0400 
From: John Trivelli <jt2n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Netrek Interpretive Dance Symposium


    \ \         /        \   /                           \
    /o/        |o_        \o/         o      ___o        /o
     \          | \        /         /\\/       /\/       /\
     \/        / \        \\        / \\       \/        /| \
     //        \  \       / \         //       /\        \|
     `'         '  `      `  '        ``       `'        '`
From: jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu (have clue, will travel)
Newsgroups: alt.games.xtrek
Subject: Re: video sex pope is insane
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:46:54 GMT
Reply-To: jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu
Organization: The Ghost Of Christmas Past Society


John Trivelli <jt2n+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>This is now the official Video Sex Pope sucks B-board since he
>has nothing nice to say.

Ah, I DO TOO have nice things to say.  I've got six of them, and I
rotate them once a week.

Eagerly awaiting the new thread, though.  Knowing my own shortcomings,
I expect to see "alt.games.xtrek: 50 articles unread" by tomorrow morning. ;)
			
		---Commodore Video Sex Pope, NCSU
	        ---"but I *do* have the highest messages sent/kills ratio
		---  in the business... gotta count for something"

--
                         jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu 
          ---------     have clue, will travel.    ---------
  "I am a penis. Worship me."--lead singer of rock band Bicycle Face,
vainly attempting to gain attention of the crowd at the Cat's Cradle
in Chapel Hill, while opening for Mojo Nixon & The Toad Liquors
Organization: Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.games.xtrek
Date: Wed,  7 Oct 1992 00:15:15 -0400 
From: John Trivelli <jt2n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: video sex pope is insane

This is now the official Video Sex Pope sucks B-board since he
has nothing nice to say.




ROM
Newsgroups: alt.games.xtrek
From: isae@IASTATE.EDU (ISU Boy !!!!!)
Subject: Screwing around........ 
Reply-To: isae@IASTATE.EDU (ISU Boy !!!!!)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 07:53:20 GMT

---------
J u s t   S c r e w i n g   A r o u n d ......

I like to see this newgroup stay alive and let's us this for
 
J u s t   S c r e w i n g   A r o u n d ......

;-)
From: sjsmith@cs.umd.edu (Stephen Joseph Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.games.xtrek
Subject: Netrek haiku
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:34:46 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Maryland at College Park

A starbase is ogged.
Eight ships uncloak around it
Pretty explosion.


An INL game.
Overtime or genocide?
Only time will tell.


An ogging haiku:

Cloak and maxwarp
Uncloak, tractor, phaser, torp
Torp torp phaser BOOM.


I pick up armies
They are a weight pressing me
Hurry, take a planet.


Newsgroups: alt.games.xtrek
From: bjbisset@eos.ncsu.edu (Billy J. Bissette)
Subject: Video Sex Pope is GOD, or a reasonable facsimile
Originator: bjbisset@c00033-118dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: bjbisset@eos.ncsu.edu (Billy J. Bissette)
Organization: Raise A Great Old One Foundation
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:14:59 GMT


  Don't fight it Jeff(Mr. Video Sex Pope).  This board has more traffic than
alt.spam.  And its a more palatable topic, well, leaving out the interprative
dance its a more palatable topic.  As for 50 topics unread though, NO ONE finds
any faults with you, you are perfect.  We are as nothing before you. :)

Still waiting for you to teach me your collected wisdom, as I'm too lazy to
learn it myself:
-- 
----------bill the insane cultist, bjbisset@eos.ncsu.edu
Please make a donation to the "Raise a Great Old One" Foundation.
Everyone chant with me:  Ph-nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
                         Ph-nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!

Newsgroups: alt.games.xtrek
From: BOHUNK@uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: THE TRUE MEANING
Organization: University of Chicago 
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 00:15:48 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.111944.942@donau.et.tudelft.nl>
maarten@dutecaj.et.tudelft.nl (M. Hofman) writes:

>I don't know much about xtrek, but I think I like the subject and I > refuse
to go[...] So if anyone can give me information about xtrek, she/he's welcome.
[...]
>Maarten.
>

 Ahhhhh, xtrek... I hacked that code to make it run on a vaxstation 3100, to
run under decwindows.

The true meaning of xtrek was to waste everything in the galaxy.  This game was
only marginally similar to the nettrek game.  It was originally written for X10
display systems and later converted to the X11 protocal.  
The Game:
	You  are the comander of your ship. (a little glyph that looked like one of
the enterprize, bird of prey,or  kingon war ship. 
	You could be one of 4 races: terran, romulan, Kilngon, or Orion.

Objective:
	Take over as many planets as you can.  planets have defences, fuel and
supplies.  But beware -- there are other beings in the universe (both alive and
computer controlled, that will try to take your presious planets away.

---
Enough of that.... the source used to be on expo, and I think it is still in
the archives at uunet (don't quote me on either of these)

This group was pretty boring when it started out.... the modern dance makes it
much mor interesting.  

Besides Xtank was a better game. In this one yo got to blow up ..........
................

BO
From: diachun@ncifcrf.gov (Justin Diachun)
Newsgroups: alt.games.xtrek
Subject: Re: Netrek Recipes! mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:05:04 GMT
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center

In article <ceoO=5K00WB944m1gW@andrew.cmu.edu> John Trivelli <jt2n+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Would the players please post their favorite recipes also!?!?

Take one fresh FED battleship.  Add strawberry ROM destroyer.  Spray
heavily with torps and beath thouroughly with phasers.  Add tractors
and repeat until done.  Serve over Romulus.


Helix


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Newsgroups: alt.wanted.muslem.bestiality,alt.stupidity
From: matmcinn@nuscc.nus.sg (Mcinnes B T (Dr))
Subject: Re: Simple, Stupid!
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 08:34:40 GMT

lawrence@ctron.com (Gary St. Lawrence) writes:
: Interesting hypothesis. It reminds of that age-old perplexer, "If God is
: all-powerful, can he make a boulder so big that even He can't lift it?"
: 
: Genius alright. I'll bet you even know how many tiles there are on your
: kitchen floor, don't you?
: 
: But try this one: Did Adam and Eve have navels?
: 
: 					Saint.
Newsgroups: alt.culture.usenet,news.misc,alt.folklore.computers
From: garyp@uworld.com (Gary Andrew Poole)
Subject: Net Culture Query
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Unix World Magazine
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:26:14 GMT

This is a follow up question to an earlier query on "Net
Culture."  I'm an editor at UNIX World Magazine writing a
piece on the Net.  I'd appreciate any response to the following
questions.  Please direct your responses to:

Gary Andrew Poole
uunet!uworld!garyp
garyp@uworld.com

Thanks for your help!

1.) Some people seem addicted to the Net.  Does anyone have a
    good story about being addicted to the Net?  For example,
    realizing one day that you haven't seen your kids for a few days.

2.)  Who has the record for spending the most time on the
     Net?  How do you break free?

3.)  There are "football widows." Are there such things as
     "Net Widows"?

4.)  Has anyone's life been ruined by spending too
     much time on the Net?

5.)  What's muds?  Why do so many people like to play it?

Kind Regards,
-- 
Gary Andrew Poole       uworld!garyp    garyp@uworld.com
UNIX World Magazine
Newsgroups: alt.culture.usenet
From: bchapman@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Bruce Patrick Chapman)
Subject: Re: not everybody reads USENET
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 17:47:07 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.201300.24444@leland.Stanford.EDU> yunus@loro-next.Stanford.EDU (Jonas Sami Celebiler) writes:
>> >> I don't read Usenet either.  I just post.
>> >I don't seed used heaters. I hustle roasts.
>> A dawn to see abused creatures.  A muscle boast.
>I own to an unused feature. We must toast!
Alone to a news-feeder.  WHMIS ghosts.l

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Newsgroups: alt.culture.usenet
From: bchapman@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Bruce Patrick Chapman)
Subject: Re: not everybody reads USENET
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 18:04:03 GMT

>> I don't read Usenet either.  I just post.
>I don't seed used heaters. I hustle roasts.
A dawn to see abused creatures.  A muscle boast.

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Newsgroups: alt.culture.usenet
From: yunus@loro-next.Stanford.EDU (Jonas Sami Celebiler)
Subject: Re: Use of the Net
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 09:30:17 GMT

In article <1b15taINNmge@news.UU.NET> garyp@uworld.com (Gary Andrew Poole)  
writes:
> I'm an editor at UNIX World Magazine.  I'm writing a piece on "Net  
Culture".
> I'm trying to find out:
> 
> 1.)  How much time people spend on the Net?

I spend about 3 hours every 1 1/2 to 2 days on the Net.

> 2.)  Why they use the Net?

Tremendous variety of info. available.  Bounce ideas.

> 3.)  Do they ever get hassled by their bosses for spending time
> on the Net?  And, how do they explain the time on the Net to their
> bosses?

I'm a University student.  No hassling.  Just loads of work to get  
done---->grades.

> 4.)  The most valuable information they've ever attained on
> the Net?  Or is it the day-to-day exchange of ideas?

The way different peole think, tastes of other minds.  And backlashes to  
personal ideas.





> 
> -- 
> gary andrew poole
> uunet!uworld!garyp
> garyp@uworld.com
Xref: sparky alt.culture.usenet:876 news.misc:1705
From: garyp@uworld.com (Gary Andrew Poole)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.usenet,news.misc
Subject: Use of the Net
Date: 8 Oct 1992 07:26:34 -0400
Organization: UUNET Communications
NNTP-Posting-Host: news.uu.net
Summary: questions for a UNIX World article

I'm an editor at UNIX World Magazine.  I'm writing a piece on "Net Culture".
I'm trying to find out:

1.)  How much time people spend on the Net?

2.)  Why they use the Net?

3.)  Do they ever get hassled by their bosses for spending time
on the Net?  And, how do they explain the time on the Net to their
bosses?

4.)  The most valuable information they've ever attained on
the Net?  Or is it the day-to-day exchange of ideas?

-- 
gary andrew poole
uunet!uworld!garyp
garyp@uworld.com
Newsgroups: alt.culture.usenet
From: yunus@loro-next.Stanford.EDU (Jonas Sami Celebiler)
Subject: Re: not everybody reads USENET
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 09:26:27 GMT

In article <BvsF2B.BGw@world.std.com> kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo"  
Parry) writes:
> In article <BvrAso.2tD@unix.amherst.edu> twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim  
Pierce) writes:
> >So what?
> 
> I don't read Usenet either.  I just post.
I don't seed used heaters. I hustle roasts.
Newsgroups: alt.culture.usenet
From: yunus@loro-next.Stanford.EDU (Jonas Sami Celebiler)
Subject: Re: not everybody reads USENET
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 20:13:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.180403.2846@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA>  
bchapman@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Bruce Patrick Chapman) writes:
> >> I don't read Usenet either.  I just post.
> >I don't seed used heaters. I hustle roasts.
> A dawn to see abused creatures.  A muscle boast.
I own to an unused feature. We must toast!
From: glratt@is.rice.edu (Glenn Forbes Larratt)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.usenet
Subject: Re: not everybody reads USENET
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:12:25 GMT
Organization: CRC OCIS, William Marsh Rice University, Houston, Texas

In article <1992Oct11.174707.19526@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> bchapman@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Bruce Patrick Chapman) writes:
>In article <1992Oct10.201300.24444@leland.Stanford.EDU> yunus@loro-next.Stanford.EDU (Jonas Sami Celebiler) writes:
>>> >> I don't read Usenet either.  I just post.
>>> >I don't seed used heaters. I hustle roasts.
>>> A dawn to see abused creatures.  A muscle boast.
>>I own to an unused feature. We must toast!
>Alone to a news-feeder.  WHMIS ghosts.l
I need a newsfeed for this host!


-- 
===/| Glenn Forbes Larratt    | "But with Windows came insidious, piggy |/
==/|  GLRATT@RICEVM1 (Bitnet) | programs that scatter files all over   |/=
=/| glratt@rice.edu (Internet)|=================| your hard disk."    |/==
/| Lab Ratt (not briggs :-)   |  Neil  Talian?  | Jim Seymour,PC Mag.|/===
From: ashtray@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (John Newnham)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.usenet
Subject: wrong group :-)
Date: 12 Oct 92 11:53:49 GMT
Organization: you have got to be kidding!

In article <1992Oct10.092627.16887@leland.Stanford.EDU> yunus@loro-next.Stanford.EDU (Jonas Sami Celebiler) writes:
>In article <BvsF2B.BGw@world.std.com> kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo"  
>Parry) writes:
>> In article <BvrAso.2tD@unix.amherst.edu> twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim  
>Pierce) writes:
>> >So what?
>> 
>> I don't read Usenet either.  I just post.
>I don't seed used heaters. I hustle roasts.
alt.cascade is for repeaters.  see notes.

-- 
When I say a word, it means exactly what I want it to mean, no more and no less
 [Humpty Dumpty to Alice (Lewis Carroll)]
Vogt's commentary on the theory of Morphic Resonance:
  There is no god!  The universe just got into bad habits. (Marcus Voght)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
From: moh2@quads.uchicago.edu (Kateri/Mary Anne)
Subject: IA Women List (since you asked...:-)
Reply-To: moh2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:44:05 GMT

This is a joke.  This is only a joke.  If this were a real list, you
would be given instructions on who to flame and how.  There may or may
not be a real list in the future.  This is only a joke.

Top 10 Reasons to Date/Marry IA Women

10.  We're all exotically beautiful (really.  don't you believe me?)
and your friends will envy you.

9.   We have no opinions and will be guided by your wisdom.

8.   Indian cooking (actually, yes)

7.   Same skin-color (please your relatives, friends, friends of
relatives, relatives of...well, you get the idea...)

6.   We don't speak to other men.  We don't look at other men.
We don't even think about other men.

5.   We can't drive. (You don't need to buy us cars, you always know
where we are).

4.   We're hard-working.  (We cook, clean, bear and raise children,
and manage to give wonderful dinners every weekend to impress your
boss and business partners).
~
3.   We spend hours watching Indian movies on your VCR (and don't
interfere with your night life).

2.   We won't ever tell you how much we hate football, cricket, etc...

1.   It'll make your mother happy.


*****

 - Amirthi
-- 
The autumn leaves are falling like rain.
Although my neighbors are all barbarians,
And you, you are a thousand miles away,
There are always two cups at my table.		 - A T'ang Dynasty poem
Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
From: shiv@tsp.med.umn.edu (Shiv Prasad (Gregerson))
Subject: Re: Sci-Fi and Indians (was Re: Desis on TV)
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 14:52:18 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.151316.23229@menudo.uh.edu> mece1xg@menudo.uh.edu (purna) writes:
>>
>>And don't forget Ricardo Montalban as the infamous Khan N. Singh.  I always
>>Shiv
>>
>
>howdy!
>
>actually, Khan was supposed to be 'Persian';  so, depending on how
>far you want to take the definition of 'indian', he may or may not
>be included as part of that group.
>
>peace,
>-purna

I seem to remember in the original episode "The Space Seed" the on-board
historian Lt. Fallinlove described Khan as northern Indian, possibly Sikh.
I don't remember if that designation changed later in the episode or in the
movie.  she also did a painting of him wearing a turban (no beard though).

Shiv
(not-really-a-trekkie-but-remembering-lots-of-trivia)


Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
From: msanghvi@cs.ulowell.edu (Mehul Sanghvi)
Subject: Re: Ten Best Reasons to Date Indian (Re:To marry (Indian) or not ?
Reply-To: msanghvi@cs.ulowell.edu
Organization: UMass-Lowell Comp. Sci. Dept.
	<1992Oct4.233842.26140@midway.uchicago.edu>
	<1992Oct5.222747.29493@cbnewsi.cb.att.com>
	<1992Oct6.172151.21054@midway.uchicago.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 01:36:14 GMT


In article <1992Oct6.172151.21054@midway.uchicago.edu> moh2@quads.uchicago.edu (Kateri/Mary Anne) writes:

   >4) They know good Indian cooking !

   So do I.  Now, if you can teach me how to make pierogi (polish) or
   falafel (middle eastern), I might be impressed. :-)

Falafel are easy to make as are houmus, baba ganous (sp?), tabuli and a few
others. If you want the recipes send me email.



increase the peace
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Inet: msanghvi@cs.ulowell.edu      |  SnailNet: 754 Aiken St. #11
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BITNET: msanghvi%cs.ulowell.edu@{cunyvm.cuny, mitvma.mit, talcott.harvard}.edu

Duct tape is like the force.  It has a light side, and a dark side, and
it holds the universe together ...
		-- Carl Zwanzig
Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
From: moh2@quads.uchicago.edu (Kateri/Mary Anne)
Subject: Re: Moving this newsgroup to soc.culture hierarchy
Reply-To: moh2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:04:34 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.211653.23616@cbnewsi.cb.att.com> alok@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (alok.vijayvargia) writes:
>> 
>> For starters, how about the team of Purna, Ron, Satyen, and Mehul
>> with any interested volunteers contacting them.
>
>I would really like to see a couple of women being part of the team.
>I am not sure if Mehul is a man or woman :-) (Mehul, no offense meant).
>I would like to recommend inclusion of at least one of (Amirthi,
>Preeti and Trina), provided she agrees ...

I appreciate the nomination, but am very computer ignorant.  I'm an
English major, and pretty much just use computer to talk to people and
write papers and do spreadsheets.

I'm more than willing to help out, but someone would have to teach me
what to do....Preeti or Trina or Bharati might be more useful.

 - Amirthi



-- 
The autumn leaves are falling like rain.
Although my neighbors are all barbarians,
And you, you are a thousand miles away,
There are always two cups at my table.		 - A T'ang Dynasty poem
Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
From: moh2@quads.uchicago.edu (Kateri/Mary Anne)
Subject: Re: looking for attention?? (was Re: Are IAs close-minded ?)
Reply-To: moh2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 00:05:42 GMT

In article <samaddar.718736317@dumbo> samaddar@siemens.com writes:
>mece1xg@menudo.uh.edu (purna) writes:
>
>Ok, I concede. One gimmick is no better and no worse than other.
>Still, I think "gimmicks" (or fashion) are usually to get +ve
>attention. Contact Lenses, Plastic surgery, make-up, make people
>attractive to others. But long hair? I know these are very subjective
>things, but I have a feeling that guys with long hair/ear-rings
>go for -ve attention (notoriety) maybe because some attention (even -ve)
>is perhaps better to them than no attention.

What are you implying?  That women would find them unattractive?

Maybe we should take a poll...how many women here find guys with long
hair attractive?  Is it a turn-on or a turn-off?

I don't have much of an opinion one way or the other...but most of the
guys I've met with long hair have been fairly attractive.

>Sumitro

 - Amirthi



-- 
The autumn leaves are falling like rain.
Although my neighbors are all barbarians,
And you, you are a thousand miles away,
There are always two cups at my table.		 - A T'ang Dynasty poem
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:29:22 EDT
From: ARIJIT MAHALANABIS <AXM128@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
Subject: Re: Moving this newsgroup to soc.culture hierarchy

I'm not sure I'm ready for the pasture yet, Raghavan :-), but I think
the team you suggested (Satyen, Tapesh, Amirthi, Manish, Mehul) is great.
I second the motion.

Arijit.
Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
From: saeed@watson.ibm.com (Saeed Jaffer)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
Subject: Parsi faith (was Re: To Marry (Indian) or Not?)
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:23:20 GMT
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM

Preeti, correct me if I'm wrong -- do Parsis follow Zoroastrianism or something
related to this faith?  Am I confusing two minority religions within desi
culture?

I'm glad you went after the discussion about the "positive" side to
paternalistic cultures:

 > The positive aspects, (if any) are far outweighed,
 > in my opininon, by the henious by-products
 > of your "paternalistic traditional culture" like 
 > female infanticide, feet-binding and bride-burning
 > to name a few. 

Actually, I would argue that these aren't merely by-products, but are inherent
in these paternalistic traditional cultures.  They are part of how the culture
functions and that overt sexism is a tool used to sustain the culture and
suppress those who are not considered equal.

-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
--saeed jaffer        			So after a lot of thought
saeed@watson.ibm.com  			I'd like to reconsider
saeed@athena.mit.edu  			Please
					If it's not too late
					Make it a cheeseburger
							--L. Lovett
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Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
From: naidu@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (naidu.gandham)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
Subject: Re: Not really a feminist...(was Parsi faith (was ...))
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:28:09 GMT
Organization: AT&T

Manish Vij notes that he is surprised that many women say that they are 
"not really a feminist, but...".  

Presently in the US, perhaps elsewhere, the label "feminist" has been 
hijacked by the by the Far Right and re-defined to mean a ultra-radical,
communist loving, anti-men-and-family woman.  Naturally most women 
(and feminists) do not wish to be identified as such, and shy away from 
being a "feminist".

My 2 cents worth...