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From: vqt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Married With Children)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: AN IDEA TO STOP PEOPLE FROM USING FILTHY LANGUAGE
Date: 25 Aug 92 20:25:34 GMT
Reply-To: vqt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Married With Children)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA


In the last few weeks, there have been a lot of exchanges of foul language
on the net.  Many people complain about this.  It does not seem to work.
I just have an idea and want to throw it out for discussion.
I am sure there are pros and cons.  Let me know what you think.

I think that the best way to hurt these offenders is to hurt them at their
pocket.  If they are hungry they can only think about food.  If they don't
have access to this net, they can't do anything when their disease is
acting up.  I believe that most employers/head hunters have a black list
of people they want to "watch for" (correct me if I am wrong about this).
All you have to do is to "keep them informed" about these bad guys.
If they are still in college, make sure that the recruiters know these
people.  You can "keep them informed" by documenting the incident:
what happened, those who got involved, references.  I think these
extremists deserve to be homeless, jobless, friendless, girlfriendless,
sexless, moneyless, etc.

I don't want to create a "police state" SCV where people are afraid to
say what they think.  Just want to make sure that those radical extremists
understand that I cannot tolerate any longer.
From: vo@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Al Bundy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Chess.man
Date: 1 Sep 92 01:59:03 GMT
Reply-To: vo@eniac.seas.upenn.edu

This is the file Chess.man.  First use uudecode to decode the file, then 
uncompress the outputfile

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: eda816a@monu1.cc.monash.edu.au (H. Nguyen)
Subject: LLa^y' mau' ru+a? la` sai!!!!!!
Organization: Monash University, Australia.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 07:36:53 GMT


LLa^y' Mau' Ru+a? La` Sai !

Under certain cercumstances your statement is wrong. At the time of the 
Frecnch it was
appropriate. But with the communist ideology in VN, we can not just ddu+o+ng
dda^u` vo+i' mau'. It would be so unwise - stupid! And at the end will not
justify the mean at all. We can observer many examples of the US's mistake
over the wars with the communist in VN, Korea, Cuba..etc, and they failed all.

At a certain time people can have their hearts bigger than their heads and they
will not think traight. I 've been to VN and I found out that Communist ideology
still there, but they are changing, since they look at our way of life and see
that freedom is the only way to improve their lives to a better standard. Just
like the West had prove to Eruope.

Anyway I like to take you to my sociology lecture room and give you and example
of the children playgroung with broken glasses in it. A wise man would not 
start to teach the little children to  awoid the glasses, but instead he cleans
it up. LLA^y' mau' dde^? ru+a? will not solve the problem, instead it creates 
more problems as we can see around the world today, war aren't the only 
solution, it is there in case of no way out. In the case of VN, there are 
many ways out, and the wisest way out for a better fulture is to clean the
water. Don't say you can have blood to clean the water. It is stupid even you
view it in different ways. To clean the water, I'm talking about  time
efforts and a lot of sacrifice. We have to have better education,
install a stronger culture into our youngs. So that communist ideology can
nerver be niavely accepted by our people again.
From: lyxuan@sscvx1.ssc.gov
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: [misc] Brother!,  Oh! Brother! :-)
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:43:18 GMT
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory

In article <1992Aug28.222346.24189@news.media.mit.edu>, Duc Vu <duc@peaceman.sps.mot.com> writes:
> 
> Hello brother Vie^.t,

Hello brother DDu+'c,

Whre's friar Tuck? Oops! Wrong scripts! So' li`....:-)
Hi` hi` hi`... I think we're starting to sound like Dominican friars.


>> Will you visit Dallas anytime soon? :-)
>> 
> 
> Not sure, when I will have time to do that :-))); old car and my body
> could not endure like it used to.

I think you're just being modest. :-)

>> Thank you so much! You, whom I respect and would look to as a brother!
>> It was just spontaneous! I guessed that I'm, too, a spontaneous person.
>               ^^^^^^^^^^^
> Spontaneous! I wish ngu+o+`i "Ao' Tra('ng" would say the same :-))).  
> Brother?  You've got it; however, I'd like to ask you to write a 
                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> poem so I can send to ngu+o+`i "Ao' Tra('ng".  Not only you gain
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
No problemo!!

> a brother, you'll gain a sister, too. :-))))).  So, this is how 
> it was:
> 
> It took me 2 years 3 girl friends before I like her

I would consider this the Dark Ages.

> It went on for 2 years before I let her know

I would consider this the Middle Ages.

> It took me another 2 years to convince (beg) her

Ahhhh! The Renaisance! The Golden Age! hi' hi' hi'....

> It took less than 2 seconds to loose her
                    ^^^^^^^^^
Well, let's see! What on earth did you do in those two seconds?
or, what was it that you didn't do. :-) It is important that I
know what had happened in those 2 seconds. :-) :-) :-) Before
I can concocted a poem...:-) :-)...

> Viet, picture it as a prescription and you are mixing the medicine :-))).

I am the "home-grown" pharmacist! hi` hi` hi`....
I am holder of the talisman, which empowers me to cure all ailments! hi` hi`...

>> Ca'm o+n Anh dda~ ho+i qu'a khen! To^i chi? uo^'ng va(n nghe^. 
>> tho^i, khi co' ddo^ng ba.n be` vui ve? thi` co+? na`o cu?ng cho+i, 
>> nhu+ng khi va('ng ba.n be` thi` co+? na`o cu?ng che^! Nu+?a lon Bud 
>> uo^'ng kho^ng he^'t kia ma`. :-) Co' le? "ham vui" thi` ddu'ng ho+n!
> 
> There are only two occasion that I like drink:
> 
> 1) When I am with somebody
> 2) or when I am alone :-))))

I think HTC, jr. has challenged(?) you to a drinking duel? hi` hi` hi`...
I will supplied the drink of choice! What will it be? hi` hi` hi`...

>> BTW, I preferred Scotch! :-)

Alright, I'll settle for a Bud!  :-)

> See, you are not a pro at drinking, yet.  A pro-drinker, he/she can 
> drink at any condition (alone/with somebody) with any kind of booze:-)))
> Have a good evening.  BTW, I need to cut it short so people do not
> call us "Ca?i Lu+o+ng Chi Ba?o". :-))))))))))))))
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I am laughing really loud! hi' hi' hi' ho^' ho^' ha' ha' ha'!!!!!

> Best,
> 
> Duc

Tru'c vie^.t aka HandsomeStranger........

> -- 
> ( \/\ @ Media Lab, MIT, Cambridge, MA, US, America, Earth )
> 
>
From: nmt@AMC
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: TRICK QUESTION
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:59:40 GMT
Organization: AMC

In article <1992Aug27.210837.23495@news.media.mit.edu>, trinh@twix.etdesg.TRW.COM (Tien Trinh) writes:
> ne^u' ba.n bi. giam giu+~ va` chu? ngu.c no'i cho phe'p ba.n no'i mo^.t ca^u, ne^'u ca^u cu?a ba.n ddu'ng thi` ba.n bi. nu+o+'ng va` ne^u' ca^u cu?a ba.n sai thi` ba.n bi. na^u'. Va^.y ba.n pha?i no'i la`m sao dde^/ chu? ngu.c pha?i tha? ba.n ra??????????> ????????
> 
> take your time and have fun.
> 
> TTrinh

     Ca^u tra? lo+`i la` :"Nhu+~ng gi` to^i ddang no'i kho^ng pha?i la` su+.
tha^.t".  Le? ra thi` chu'a nguc pha?i tha? ba.n ra.  Nhu+ng ca^u no'i tre^n
vu+`a ddu'ng va` vu+`a sai.  Do ddo' ba.n se~ vu+`a bi. nu+o+'ng va` vu+`a bi.
na^'u .  :-)
From: hho@aludra.usc.edu (** N.T.K.C.D. ***)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: [TECH] Vietnamese freeware for DOS/Windows release
Date: 27 Aug 1992 10:07:51 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <26310.092343@haydn> JFT%NCCIBM1.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU writes:
>Hi Cuong,
>
>  If I have some documents in VN Labs/VNU format is there a
>utility to translate these files to VISCII?
>

Not to version 1.1 of VISCII directly...
VPS has a program to translate most common VN formats <->
For current VISCII 1.1, you must translate to Vietnet format
then use viet7to8 to recompile

Check out VN archival sites..
H.
-- 
*******************************************************************************
Hung P. Ho, Jr. (John)     USC DENTISTRY    PH.SYSTEMS          CCCOGP  
                           hho@usc.edu      hung@phsys.com      hung@cccogp.com
From: maverick@ucrengr.ucr.edu (linh le)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: test ti' :)
Date: 30 Aug 92 00:53:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: galaxy.22059
Organization: University of California, Riverside

I am here, or I am not ??  :)
From: tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com (Nhan Tran)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: NEWS/VN: Australian sets up ruby joint venture in VN
Date: 30 Aug 92 20:06:09 GMT
Reply-To: tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com
Organization: SCV Relay
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu


08/28

AUSTRALIAN SETS UP RUBY JOINT VENTURE IN VIETNAM

    HANOI, Aug 28, Reuter - An Australian businessman launched a joint venture
in rubies in Vietnam on Friday, saying the country had enormous potential but
had to curb rampant smuggling that could cripple its emerging precious stone
industry.
    Raymond Eaton, the Australian chairman of the Bangkok-based Export
Development Trading Corporation, told Reuters that Vietnam might have some of
the best rubies in the world.
    Rubies were discovered there in 1989, in the northern town of Luc Yen.
    "It has huge potential. It may have the world's largest deposits of what
might be the world's finest rubies, even better than Burmese," he said before
the launch of the new joint venture, Vietnam Gems Technology Co Ltd, or Gemtec
Vietnam.
    Gemtec's Vietnamese partner in the $1 million deal is Electronic and Optical
Instruments Corp, a state-owned company under the National Centre for Scientific
Research.
    Eaton said Hanoi's plan to impose an export tax on polished rubies, and its
tight restrictions on buying, selling and dealing in rubies, had driven the vast
majority of the industry into the hands of smugglers.
    "We have to compete with the smugglers to get access to the raw materials
(uncut rubies). It's actually advantageous to do things illegally, since you get
penalised when you do things legally," he said in an interview.
    Vietnam sold about $900,000 in uncut rubies at its first international ruby
auction in Hanoi in May.
    Eaton said Hanoi could choke the growth of legal trade if it keeps its plan
to impose a five to eight per cent export tax on polished rubies, and to require
a special state certificate to deal in gems and a different permit to buy uncut
stones.
    The discovery of rubies in 1990 in the central town of Quy Chau attracted
tens of thousands of prospectors from around Vietnam. About 100 people died in
collapsed mines and turf fights in 1991 until troops and police were sent in.
    Gemtech, which plans to buy, cut, polish and sell rubies, will set up a
factory and trading house with a staff of 100 people in Hanoi, he said.
    Eaton's Export Development Trading Corporation is a general trading company
dealing mostly in garments.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: pham@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Michael Pham)
Subject: [POEM] Kiss and Tell
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
																							   
											  
											  The grass grows green in Ireland
											  The flames are hot in hell,
											  And damn the guy who'd kiss a girl
											  And turn around and tell.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 15:44:34 GMT

											  LAUDERDALE (Fr. Dear Abby) 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: htcao@cirrus.com (Huy Thanh Cao)
Subject: Re: Fake mail !!!!
Organization: Cirrus Logic Inc.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:53:12 GMT

In <1992Aug25.184342.2690@news.media.mit.edu> tdng0812@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
(Nguyen) writes:

>Hi netters,

>In the past my account tdng0812@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu was borrowed and used
>for unknown purposes.  But now I was called into attention that one person
>just faked my addresses at uxa and turing.scs.uiuc.edu to send unpleasant
>messages to this newsgroup.

>I'd like to emphasize that this is my only and last message to SCV considering
>my busy schedule at this moment.  Sorry to let you read those messages and I
>have no more to say.

>To the person who faked mail from the address qnd50986@uxa:
>Stop doing that.  It's not too difficult to know what a fake mail is and to 
>trace to the person who sends it. Imagine the troubles you are facing.

>Thai Nguyen


It's very upsetting to see Ngo.c Die^.p being harassed like this.  I
attended Caltech for three years with ND, getting to know her on a
friendly basis, and I know she doesn't go around harassing people.

	Whoever is faking these messages is making enemies by the
minute.  I don't forgive and I don't forget.

					Huy
From: dien@bnr.ca (Dien Nguyen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: (Nhac) Da(.ng Tha'i So+n piano recordings
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:14:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: bcrka451.1992Sep1.151436.21794
Reply-To: dien@bnr.ca (Dien Nguyen)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ltd
Originator: dien@bcrks77



Does anyone have any of his recordings ? Could you please post me the record company and
the catalog numbers of the CDs . I have been looking for his recordings in all the record stores
in Ottawa , but was unable to find them . He won the International Chopin Piano Competition
in 81 , I believe .

Thanks in advance .
-- 
 ------------------------------------------------------------------
 Dien Nguyen 		ESN:   (393) 2017	              185 Corkstown Rd.
 Bell Northern Research	Phone: (613) 763-2017	Nepean, Ontario
 dien@bnr.ca		Fax:   (613) 763-7241	K2H-8V4 CANADA
 ------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: nguyena@apple.com (Andy Nguyen)
Subject: Re: [misc] Ca ngo+.i "Anh Hu`ng"
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:47:57 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

Nhu* va^.y la` anh kho^ng muo^'n ca ngo*.i ba^'t cu*' anh hu`ng na`o 
he^'t, co' phai? va^.y kho^ng ? Hay la` anh muo^'n ca ngo*.i mo^.t ca'ch 
kha'c, dde^? tra'nh nhu*~ng ha^.u qua?:
Theo lo*`i anh:
 va^~n co`n co' ke? bi. lo+.i du.ng, lu+o+`ng ga.t,
 va^~n co`n co' ke? bi. che^'t mo^.t ca'ch oan uo^?ng,
 va` se~ co`n nhu+~ng tu+o+.ng dda' ddu+o+.c du+.ng le^n
 va` sau ddo' bi. dda^.p ddo^?, ro^`i du+.ng le^n,
 ro^`i dda^.p ddo^?...,
 va^~n ma~i co`n chie^'n tranh ...

Xin cho to^i bie^'t ne^'u to^i dda~ hie^u? la^`m anh ddie^?m na`y. Co`n 
nhu* ne^'u to^i kho^ng hie^u? la^`m anh thi` to^i xin ma.n phe'p du`ng 
mo^.t ca'ch kha'c dde^? die^~n ta? la.i ca'ch suy nghi~ cua? anh.

Thi' du. :

1.Ho^m qua to^i coi tivi, tin tu*'c co' noi' la` o^ng trie^.u phu' no. bi. 
cu*o*'p he^'t ta`i sa?n va` gie^'t che^'t...
2.Ho^`i sa'ng ddo.c ba'o tha^'y ma^'y ha~ng no' dduo^i? vie^.c ma^'y nha^n 
vie^n...

Tu*` 1&2, to^i quye^'t ddi.nh:
1.To^i se~ kho^ng muo^'n tha`nh trie^.u phu'! Bo*i? vi` cu*o*'p se~ gie^'t 
to^i vi` ta`i sa?n.
2.To^i se~ kho^ng ddi la`m. Bo*i? vi` ne^'u to^i ddi la`m thi` the^' na`o 
cu~ng co' nga`y bi. dduo^i? so*? !

Dde^? tra'nh hie^u? la^`m the^m nu*a~, to^i se~ ngu*`ng o*? dda^y dde^? 
cho*` anh tra? lo*`i.

Tha^n ai'

Andy Nguyen

ps:chu*~ "ddo^i khi" co' nghia~ la` co' nhie^`u ho*n mo^.t tru*o*`ng 
ho*.p. Anh dda~ ne^u ra mo^.t, nhu* va^.y mong anh ne^u ra nhu*~ng 
tru*o*`ng ho*.p co`n la.i.

>Ca ngo+.i nhu+~ng vi. anh hu`ng ddo^i khi ddo^`ng nghi~a
                                 ^^^^^^^^^
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: vibama@cs.hw.ac.uk (Scott Doan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: [ADMIN] SIGN HIM ON PLEASE! ...
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:50:37 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh, Scotland

In article <9224521.11964@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> htn@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au (Hao Tu Nguyen) writes:
>Hello SCV's admin,
>
>I would like to sign-on for a friend on his behalf.

Can I do for my friend too ??

>His employer just managed to have a unix environment connected
>to internet, therefore this guy really get excited to be able to
>have access to scv . Only one problem is that his system admin
>doesn't know what is rn or nn ! 
>
>So, could you please sign him on via the SCV mailing list!
>
>His personal info is :
>
>		Bu`i Le^ Vo~ Tru+o+`ng
>		Company: Ericsson Australia Pty Ltd.
>		email:  epalvb@pgsunfsa.epa.ericsson.se
>

His personal info is:

Tra^`n Quang Tua^'n
Company: CABLE & WIRELESS Business Networks, London.
Email: /I=TQ/G=TUAN/S=TRAN/OU=BN/O=CW/PRMD=CWIC/ADMD=CWMAIL/C=GB/@mhs-relay.ac.uk

Thanks,

--Scott

>On his behalf,
>Thankyou V. much,
>
>and for my part,
>Cheers,
>
>Tu+. Ha`o
>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: vibama@cs.heriot-watt.ac.uk (Scott Doan)
Subject: SIGN OFF
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: vibama@cs.heriot-watt.ac.uk
Organization: SCV Relay
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 09:55:37 GMT


My USENET feeder was slow, that was why I subscribed into this mailinglist
in order to receive articles in quicker way. Furthermore, it is one way
to retain all the old articles when I was on long vacation. However I don't
wish to receive more articles from SCV in this way from today.

Please take my name off the distribution list.
Thanks in advance.

--Scott Doan.
From: kimchip@acs.bu.edu (Chichi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Tho*:::Phu't ye^u thu*o*ng
Date: 30 Aug 92 17:45:03 GMT
Reply-To: kimchip@acs.bu.edu
Organization: SCV Relay
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: hy@alumni (Hy Lam)
Subject: Re: What Is Love?
Organization: University of California Society of Electrical Engineers
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 15:43:54 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.195645.3629@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Duc.Pham@dartmouth.edu (Duc Pham) writes:
>In article <1992Aug26.235952.26822@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
>ngocthao@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Thao Tran) writes:
>
>> 
>> 		What is love?
>> 
>
>
>You know it when you have it.

Isn't the question, "What is love?", too general?  Maybe we should (?) ask
a more specific question about love?

How about:

1.  When we love something beautiful, what do we mean?
2.  When we love our freinds, neighbors, what do we mean?
3.  When we love our enemies (?), what do we mean?  :(|(

I found an essay written by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., very interesting
so I'd like to post it here:

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...
AGAPE LOVE
     The Greek language uses three words for love.  It talks about EROS.
EROS is a sort of aesthetic love.  It has come to us to be a sort of
romantic love and it stands with all of its beauty.  But when we speak
of loving those who oppose us we're not talking about EROS.  The Greek
language talks about PHILIA and this is a sort of reciprocal love between
personal friends.  This is a vital, valuable love.  But when we talk of
loving those who oppose you and those who seek to defeat you we are not
talking about EROS or PHILIA.  The Greek language comes out with another
word and it is AGAPE.  AGAPE is understanding, creative, redemptive good
will for all men.  Biblical theologians would say it is the love of God
working in the minds of men.  It is an overflowing love which seeks
nothing in return.  And when you come to love on this level you begin to
love men not because they are likable, not because they do things that
attract us, but because God loves them and here we love the person who
does the evil deed while hating the deed that the person does.  It is the
type of love that stands at the center of the movement that we are trying
to carry on in the Southland--AGAPE.

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I think, as persons (in general) we seem to have more EROS and PHILIA.
We still feel uncomfortable with AGAPE, aren't we?

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According to Plato, Socrates once said to Theodorus and his students:

	The elimination of evil is impossible, Theodorus:  there
	must always be some force ranged against good.  But it is
	impossible for evil to be stationed in heaven; its territory
	is necessarily mortal nature - it patrols this earthly
	realm.  That is why one should try to escape as quickly as
	possible from here to there.  The escape-route is assimilation
	to God, in so far as this is possible, and this assimilation
	is the combination of wisdom with moral respect for God and
	man.

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-Hy

P.S.  I think I am more spiritual than religious :)

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