HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mwertz1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Melanie Wertz)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Royko article: Next Time, Dan, Take Aim At Arnold
Date: 28 Sep 92 03:20:54 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Swarthmore College

> 
> Anyway, Quayle's point is that the TV show may implicitly -promote-, or
> -glamourize- single motherhood by making Murphy Brown a single mother, and
> acting like it's no big deal, that fathers aren't important.
> 

1.  The show does not attempt to show that having no father is no big deal.
 It is a very difficult situation and the decision was a difficult one to
come to.  Motherhood is tough and the show doesn't pretend otherwise.

2.  This is a REALISTIC situation; many fathers are not willing/able to
help raise their children, and the percentage of single parent families is
astounding.  What's wrong, then, with writing a sitcom which portrays a
realistic situation in America instead of the "idealistic" virtually
non-existent Cleaver-like family?  If real life single mothers are
courageous, as you say, then what is wrong with creating such a courageos
character on television?

3.  Even if Murphy Brown did "glamorize" single motherhood, what's wrong
with that?  Having a father in the household does not make it inherently
superior.  Studies show that children whose parents are very unhappy
together are better off emotionally if their parents get divorced.  And if
the "father" is physically or emotionally abusive to his wife or children
(some estimates would say that this is true of one family in 5), there is
no question that this mother needs to take her children and GET OUT! 
Sometimes, Kurt, being a single mother is simply THE best, most healthy,
most moral choice. 

4.  The greater irony to Quayle's opposition to Murphy is that she is a
single parent BECAUSE she decided NOT to have an abortion.  I would think
that Quayle would be pleased, not morally offended.

Melanie
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black)
Subject: A New Quote!
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:58:37 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

    JDQ recently completed a 200mile bus trip through our lucky state, and,
on one stop, was asked what effect Ross Perot re-entering the race would
have on the GHWB/JDQ campaign.  He said "If Perot re-enters the race, it's
good for us, and if he stays out, that's good for us".  Asked what he meant
by that, he said "That's for you to figure out".

    Later, he "clarified" this remark to mean that if Perot re-enters the
race, the focus will be more on the economy, which is one of GHWB's strong
points.

[source: Champaign News-Gazette, Tuesday, 9/29/92]

-- 
   ******************************************************************
     Howard Black                             cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu
     Department of Chemistry                  Eastern Illinois Univ. 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: glass@adcalc.fnal.gov (Michael Glass)
Subject: Tetragrammaton
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4  
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Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory
Distribution:  world
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 02:32:59 GMT

In article <9209271724.AA13280@MIT.EDU>, dks@MIT.EDU (lord) writes...
> 
>  Hey!  Who stole my Tetragrammaton?
> 

     It appears the godless American National Standards Committee left
three Hebrew letters out of the ASCII alphabet.  Coincidence?  I think not!

-- Michael  (Notice that the last two letters in my name refer to a diety.)
            (Maybe this is a sign that I should become a Republican.)
From: raymond@locus.com (R.R. Butte)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Wanted: DQ's very confused quote in Europe
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:02:27 GMT
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California

In article <1a32lkINN3vv@fido.asd.sgi.com> aschaffe@holodeck.csd.sgi.com (Allan Schaffer) writes:
> raymond@locus.com (R.R. Butte) said..
> >
> >	I'd like to locate a particular quote DQ made somewhere in Europe
> >a year or two ago.  Don't have any specifics, other than it was about a
> >short paragraph long, and was so bizarre and confused that folks in Europe
> >were checking their dictionaries to make sure they weren't missing something
> >in the English.
> >
> >	Anyone out there remember this quote and have it handy?  I thing it
> >was in all the major newspapers and magazines.
> 
> There are a *lot* of possibilities here.. ;-)  But let me refer to my
> trusty Almanac of Quayle Quotes that gets posted here from time to time..

... some good examples of the wit & wisdom of DQ deleted...  

But alas, the quote i am looking for was much more confused.  Seems to me it
didn't even have a "subject", just DQ rambling on like a marble in a tin can,
talking gibberish for several "sentences".

But thanks for the additions to my collection.

-rb



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raymond@locus.com          		less heat... more light
From: erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Quayle's image [Was: Marilyn's Indiscretions (and Teddy's comment)]
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 08:27:50 PDT
Organization: Reigning Cats and Dogs
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pat@sphinx.phys.Virginia.EDU (pat walsh) writes:

> Eric S. Smith writes:

> >afc@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes:

> >> Q: Why did Teddy Kennedy say that DQ is not as dumb as it appears?

> >I imagine it's just an abstract comment, relating to the fact that NOTHING,
> >animal, mineral, or vegetable, could be as dumb as DQ appears.

> Actually, several prominent persons whose opinions I generally find well worth
> listening to (Bob Woodward and John Chancellor come immediately to mind) have
> also made the comment that Dan's smarter than most people think.

Well I would respectfully submit that "smarter than most people think"
is a different issue than "smarter than he appears".

> Also, all kidding aside on the debates...I am worried about the expectation
> game, i.e., if Dan can simply remember his own name, he may be seen as having
> won because he did "better than expected".

Obviously "lowered expectations" is the game plan with almost everything
involving Quayle's public image.

By the way, for Quayle's impromptu descent to mix with "real people"
yesterday in San Francisco, the Q campaign attempted to throw potential
demonstrators off the scent, to the extent of sending a busload of reporters
three blocks away from the actual location. It didn't work however,
since the demonstrators quickly located the phalanx of riot police lining
Q's route ...

-----
Eric Smith
erics@infoserv.com
CI$: 70262,3610


Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: d89-jsp@nada.kth.se (Jan Sparrendahl)
Subject: Targetting a relevant isue?
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 22:44:23 GMT

From "In These Times," Feb 25-March 10, 1987:

	According to the Washington Post, last week Mikhail S. Gorbachov told
an audience of 850 visiting Americans, other foreigners and Soviets that
President Reagan, at their 1985 meeting in Geneva, promised to join forces
with the Soviet Union in case the world was invaded by aliens from outer space.
"At our meeting in Geneva," Gorbachov said, "the U.S. president said that if
the earth faced an invasion by extraterrestrials the United States and the
Soviet Union should join forces to repel such an invasion. I shall not dispute
the hypothesis, although I think it is too early to worry about such an
intrusion."

------------------------------------[about Pat Robertsson]

About Pat Robertson, televangelist running for President:

	Some things Pat doesn't write about are in Gerard Straub's eye-opening
book "Salvation for Sale".  Straub was producer of the 700 Club until he became
disenchanted and was fired over his affair with an employee.  His wildest
revelation concerns a 1979 CBN plan known as GSP (God's Secret Project).  It
was nothing less than to televise the Second Coming.  Pat is convinced that
recent events involving Israel prove that Jesus is about to return. [later in
the article, quoting Straub]:

	The greatest show on earth was in our hands.  I wondered where we would
	put the cameras.  Jerusalem was the obvious place.  We even discussed
	how Jesus' radiance might be too bright for the cameras and how we
	would have to make adjustments for that problem.  Can you imagine
	telling Jesus, "Hey, Lord, please tone down your luminosity; we having
	a problem with contrast.  You're causing the picture to flare".

----------------------------------[speaking of fundamentalists]

Quoted from Martin Gardner's article "Giving God A Hand" from the New
York Review, August 13, 1987.  About Jimmy Swaggart, fundamentalist preacher
on TV (the article's reprinted in Gardner's book on New Age and other stuff,
"Notes of a Fringe Watcher," I think [it's hard to remember - the CIA mindwipe
lasers are playing Madonna in my right frontal lobe right now]):

	Jimmy's autobiography, like those of Roberts, Bakker, and Robertson,
is filled with miraculous healings, bouts with Satan, Bible consulting,
weeping, glossolalia [speaking in tongues], and the power of the Blood.  On
one occasion, Jesus healed Jimmy's "battered, blue Plymouth...held together
with bailing wire," and about to expire from sticky valves.  "Prayer was my
only weapon," Jimmy writes.  "If God could heal my sick body, surely He could
repair my sick car."  Jimmy took some anointing oil from his pocket and poured
it over the car's silver ornament.  When he started the car, it ran "like a
new Singer sewing machine."  Jimmy shouted, "Thank you, Jesus!"  The valves
were perfect when he sold the car a few months later.





Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: d89-jsp@nada.kth.se (Jan Sparrendahl)
Distribution: world
Followup-To: 
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Subject: targetting a relevant issue?
Keywords: 
From "In These Times," Feb 25-March 10, 1987:

	According to the Washington Post, last week Mikhail S. Gorbachov told
an audience of 850 visiting Americans, other foreigners and Soviets that
President Reagan, at their 1985 meeting in Geneva, promised to join forces
with the Soviet Union in case the world was invaded by aliens from outer space.
"At our meeting in Geneva," Gorbachov said, "the U.S. president said that if
the earth faced an invasion by extraterrestrials the United States and the
Soviet Union should join forces to repel such an invasion. I shall not dispute
the hypothesis, although I think it is too early to worry about such an
intrusion."
------------------------------------[about Pat Robertsson]
About Pat Robertson, televangelist running for President:

	Some things Pat doesn't write about are in Gerard Straub's eye-opening
book "Salvation for Sale".  Straub was producer of the 700 Club until he became
disenchanted and was fired over his affair with an employee.  His wildest
revelation concerns a 1979 CBN plan known as GSP (God's Secret Project).  It
was nothing less than to televise the Second Coming.  Pat is convinced that
recent events involving Israel prove that Jesus is about to return. [later in
the article, quoting Straub]:

	The greatest show on earth was in our hands.  I wondered where we would
	put the cameras.  Jerusalem was the obvious place.  We even discussed
	how Jesus' radiance might be too bright for the cameras and how we
	would have to make adjustments for that problem.  Can you imagine
	telling Jesus, "Hey, Lord, please tone down your luminosity; we having
	a problem with contrast.  You're causing the picture to flare".
----------------------------------[speaking of fundamentalists]

Quoted from Martin Gardner's article "Giving God A Hand" from the New
York Review, August 13, 1987.  About Jimmy Swaggart, fundamentalist preacher
on TV (the article's reprinted in Gardner's book on New Age and other stuff,
"Notes of a Fringe Watcher," I think [it's hard to remember - the CIA mindwipe
lasers are playing Madonna in my right frontal lobe right now]):

	Jimmy's autobiography, like those of Roberts, Bakker, and Robertson,
is filled with miraculous healings, bouts with Satan, Bible consulting,
weeping, glossolalia [speaking in tongues], and the power of the Blood.  On
one occasion, Jesus healed Jimmy's "battered, blue Plymouth...held together
with bailing wire," and about to expire from sticky valves.  "Prayer was my
only weapon," Jimmy writes.  "If God could heal my sick body, surely He could
repair my sick car."  Jimmy took some anointing oil from his pocket and poured
it over the car's silver ornament.  When he started the car, it ran "like a
new Singer sewing machine."  Jimmy shouted, "Thank you, Jesus!"  The valves
were perfect when he sold the car a few months later.





Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: d89-jsp@nada.kth.se (Jan Sparrendahl)
Distribution: world
Followup-To: 
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Subject: targetting a relevant issue?
Keywords: 
From "In These Times," Feb 25-March 10, 1987:

	According to the Washington Post, last week Mikhail S. Gorbachov told
an audience of 850 visiting Americans, other foreigners and Soviets that
President Reagan, at their 1985 meeting in Geneva, promised to join forces
with the Soviet Union in case the world was invaded by aliens from outer space.
"At our meeting in Geneva," Gorbachov said, "the U.S. president said that if
the earth faced an invasion by extraterrestrials the United States and the
Soviet Union should join forces to repel such an invasion. I shall not dispute
the hypothesis, although I think it is too early to worry about such an
intrusion."
------------------------------------about Pat Robertsson
About Pat Robertson, televangelist running for President:

	Some things Pat doesn't write about are in Gerard Straub's eye-opening
book "Salvation for Sale".  Straub was producer of the 700 Club until he became
disenchanted and was fired over his affair with an employee.  His wildest
revelation concerns a 1979 CBN plan known as GSP (God's Secret Project).  It
was nothing less than to televise the Second Coming.  Pat is convinced that
recent events involving Israel prove that Jesus is about to return. [later in
the article, quoting Straub]:

	The greatest show on earth was in our hands.  I wondered where we would
	put the cameras.  Jerusalem was the obvious place.  We even discussed
	how Jesus' radiance might be too bright for the cameras and how we
	would have to make adjustments for that problem.  Can you imagine
	telling Jesus, "Hey, Lord, please tone down your luminosity; we having
	a problem with contrast.  You're causing the picture to flare".
----------------------------------speaking of fundamentalists

Quoted from Martin Gardner's article "Giving God A Hand" from the New
York Review, August 13, 1987.  About Jimmy Swaggart, fundamentalist preacher
on TV (the article's reprinted in Gardner's book on New Age and other stuff,
"Notes of a Fringe Watcher," I think [it's hard to remember - the CIA mindwipe
lasers are playing Madonna in my right frontal lobe right now]):

	Jimmy's autobiography, like those of Roberts, Bakker, and Robertson,
is filled with miraculous healings, bouts with Satan, Bible consulting,
weeping, glossolalia [speaking in tongues], and the power of the Blood.  On
one occasion, Jesus healed Jimmy's "battered, blue Plymouth...held together
with bailing wire," and about to expire from sticky valves.  "Prayer was my
only weapon," Jimmy writes.  "If God could heal my sick body, surely He could
repair my sick car."  Jimmy took some anointing oil from his pocket and poured
it over the car's silver ornament.  When he started the car, it ran "like a
new Singer sewing machine."  Jimmy shouted, "Thank you, Jesus!"  The valves
were perfect when he sold the car a few months later.





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From: dks@MIT.EDU (dks)
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liuyh@vis.toronto.edu (Yuanhui Liu) writes:
> tertium@milton.u.washington.edu (l boyd) writes:
> > You spose that face on mars is a monument to JDQ?
> > After all, there is no sign of *intelligent* life on Mars...
> 
> I got an idea, maybe after JDQ died, we can name some dead voclano
> on Mars "Mount of Quayle" or something.  ;->  that is, the astronomers
> of tommorrow (I assume they are the spelling bee champions of today)
> still chuckling about the JDQ quotes.   

Mount of Quayle?  The fool doesn't amount to a Hill of Beans.


Dhanesh
From: sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu (Maven o'Mirth)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Quayle is more charitable than Gore
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:04:48 GMT
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

In article <1992Sep29.223717.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> cdpert01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>
>     Here's an interesting little piece I found in the October 5
>National Review (pg. 12, col. 2):
>
>     In this corner, Al Gore, apostle of charity, compassion, and
>     saving the earth.  His opponent, Dan Quayle -- avatar of
>     Republican greed and selfishness.  Tax returns show that the 
>     two had similar incomes last year.  Guess which one gave more
>     to charity?  Of course.  The Quayles gave $5,670, or 3 per cent
>     of their income, while the Gores gave $1,727 -- less than 
>     1 per cent.  Maybe Mr. Gore was trying to strengthen the case
>     for federal poverty programs.
>
>It looks like Gore, the media-proclaimed moderate, is really just
>another hypocritical bleeding heart -- since his public rhetoric
>dwarfs his private generosity.
>
>     C. Perttunen

Wait a minute.  Are you telling me that as long as Quayle gives *money* to
"charitable" organizations (any donation to *any* non-profit organization,
i.e. symphony, art museum, church, might be a tax-deductible contribution
to charity) he is the more charitable of the two?  That as long as he
writes his check he has done his duty and need not be concerned with the
status of his soul or of his character?

Bush/Quayle, the ticket of intolerance?  The ticket that would have you
believe any child of a non-traditional, non-nuclear family could be the
next rioter in LA?  This is the ticket that you think embodies charity?

You're beyond hope, buddy, but at least you're supporting a party that
thinks just like you do.  Too bad the *party* sees fit to put that money
into the hands of the richest, and leaves it to them to decide which
symphony, which art museum, which church receives their "ten percent." 
All of them are worthy causes, in my opinion, but charity implies a
concern for a human being *as a human being*--something Al Gore has
demonstrated, and something Dan Quayle has all but denied.  

--
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*>sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu<*		|  Forever fleeting away;
and Hemingway, feline philosopher	|  Who happy would be, let him be;
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From: peri@cco.caltech.edu (Michal Leah Peri)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Marilyn's Indiscretions (and Teddy's comment)
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:34:08 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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pat@sphinx.phys.Virginia.EDU (pat walsh) writes:
>"if it looks like a duck, walks
>like a duck, and quacks like a duck...."

it's a TAX!

(Mark Russell)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: bena@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Ben Aveling)
Subject: Re: Tetragrammaton
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 00:47:29 GMT

Michael Glass (glass@adcalc.fnal.gov) wrote:
: 
:      It appears the godless American National Standards Committee left
: three Hebrew letters out of the ASCII alphabet.  Coincidence?  I think not!
: 
: -- Michael  (Notice that the last two letters in my name refer to a diety.)
:             (Maybe this is a sign that I should become a Republican.)

You might be interested to know that here in Australia places storing
potentially dangerous goods are required to post a sign out the front
informing the world at large of the fact.  The sign is an abbreviation
of the words Hazardous Chemicals, and reads HAZCHEM, which I am told,
is one of the Hebrew names for God, Coincidence?  I think so.

	Ben
From: llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Actual Bush/Quayl sticker sighting in Bay Area!
Date: 27 Sep 92 22:01:40 GMT
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Maddi Hausmann (madhaus@netcom.com) wrote:
: In an earlier article, I observed that despite actively looking I had
: yet to see a Bush/Quayl bumper sticker in the Bay Area.  After two
: months of hard work, I finally sighted one yesterday, not half a mile
: from my home (in West San Jose).

i saw a bush/quayl sticker on a newspaper machine here in austin. i
approved, though; someone had taken a marker that was the same blue as
the sticker background and colored in the "H" and the bottom loop of
the "B" in bush.

pus/quayle '92?
From: jviv@usmi01.midland.chevron.com (John Viveiros)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: David Frost interview
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:40:48 GMT
Distribution: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Organization: Chevron

It appears from the lack of comments that I was the only one to see
Quayle interview on Friday night (PBS).  I found a few highlights.  On
the subject of marital infidelity, Dan said "The president scores much
better than Bill Clinton."  Ok, they were asking about the "trust issue"
that no one but George and Dan seem to take issue with.

Back to reality, Dan said he disagreed with Pat Robertson, when Pat said
that Bill and Hillary were trying to destroy the family.  Gee, now if
only someone would just stop the nuts from talking in the first place,
the Republican party could return to its (previous) respected status.

I thought the whole bit about his praying was disgusting.  'Oh I don't
pray to win.  I really don't pray for myself.  I pray for the
disadvantaged, etc.'  Well, Dan, you'd better hope God doesn't hear you
or your out of a job!

Dan said he approves of laws restricting (but not prohibiting - he
didn't mention it) abortion.  It's hard to tell what he thinks.  I guess
he's for whatever is politically expedient at the time.

I thought one of the main things that showed how out of touch Dan was
was his response to meeting gang members.  He was shocked to know they
didn't join the gangs to rape, pillage, fight, (get killed), etc.  He
was "flabbergasted" to learn that they joined to be in a group, for
support, as if it was a surrogate family.  If he just learned that this
recently, it shows how out of touch he's been.  We're supposed to be
proud the guy learned this.  Like we should be proud he just learned
that there are no canals on Mars?

Lastly, something picky, and all the Quayle supporters will bash me on
this, but:
Have you ever noticed the background music in a movie?  Usually you
don't, unless it seems totally inappropriate.  That's the way I felt
about Quayle's hand gestures during the interview.  He used this
"thoughtful" expression with his index finger resting on his temple
(thumb under the ear if you have trouble visualizing) at times that
seemed totally inappropriate, as if he'd been coached to use it to seem
more intellectual.  Sort of like when he said Hollywood was into
"nihilism".  Yeah, like no one put that word in his mouth.

I taped it, and wish I had time to transcribe the whole thing, but my
bosses (work and wife) have other things for me to do.  Oh well.

John
-- 
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