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From: wog@rrze2.rrze.uni-erlangen.de
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Xvroutine to cut polygons from images?
Date: 23 Jan 93 17:50:09 GMT

Hi there all Khoros freaks,

I have a question concerning the "cutting" of subimages from an image.
Editimage provides the means to extract a rectangular part of any image,
but for MANY applications this seems insufficient, at least to me.
Has anyone ever written an xvroutine to cut more complicated
structures, say unions of polygons, from a displayed image
interactively?  (The selected region may then be masked by a newly
created binary image, or the rest clipped to 0.0, or whatever...)

If so, I would be very grateful to hear about it.
(I hope this is a common problem.)
Thanks.
                                 Wolfram
                                 (wog@cnve.rrze.uni-erlangen.de)
From: hirt@itssun3.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de (Markus Hirt)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: Help desperately wanted if someone is reading
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:41:04
Organization: /home1/itsnova/hirt/.organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: itssun3.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de
In-reply-to: sheun@cs.city.ac.uk's message of Mon, 25 Jan 93 17:45:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.174540.18480@city.cs> sheun@cs.city.ac.uk (Sheun Olatunbosun) writes:

   ...

   Okay here goes. I've installed khoros and parts of it (all the vroutines)
   work. The other parts (xvroutines, and therefore the bulk of Khoros) which
   use X libraries fall over hideously. Progress so far, I can compile the
   the xvroutines, xprism2, cantata, conductor, etc but cannot run them
   (segmentation fault, core dump).
   ...


Could you please tell us, on which machine you are trying to install
Khoros, which OS and compiler you are using - perhaps somone
has seen similar problems in this configuration.

   I've seen many other postings from others experiencing problems with the
   installation of Khoros, which is a big piece of software; and judging by
   the number, I suggest creating a newsgroup just for Khoros installation
   or at least a dedicated FAQ.

There IS a Khoros FAQ for Compiling - I have the  Oct  03, 1992 version
here. It's perhaps obsolete - but I can email it to you if you can't
find it elsewhere...

   Sheun, City University, London
   (A research student trying to install khoros, never installed software
   before, called on the expertise of others, read previous irrelevant
   solutions on this group, severely exhausted!)

Okay, Khoros is a bit huge to learn installing software - perhaps
you look for some little X-applications first.

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Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:33:35 CST
From: <U11993@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: cantata script/C code gen

Is there any plans in Khoros 2.0 for generating C code or a shell script
from a workspace within cantata?

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From: hong@cipr-psych.mgh.harvard.edu (Hong-Jain Jiang)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: segmentaion/edge_detection routine wanted
Keywords: segmentaion, edge_detection
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:54:12 GMT
Reply-To: hong@cipr-psych.mgh.harvard.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.

Hi there:

I am looking for some ftp sites which have some image 
segmentation, edge/boundary detection programs. I am 
trying to do segmentation on medical images with fuzzy 
boundaries. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Hong Jiang
Mass General Hospital
email: hong@cipr-psych.mgh.harvard.edu
tel:   617-724-9525
 
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: schultz@halley.est.3m.com (John C. Schultz)
Subject: printing pixels in editimage
Organization: 3M Company, 3M Center, Minnesota, USA
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 22:47:42 GMT

One of the display limitations I felt of Khoros was that the print
pixel values function showed the display color and the display pixel
intensities - not the true pixel intensities.   A slight modification
to run_pixels.c in src/xvroutines/editimage was all that is needed.

The diff is shown below.  

In editimage, Print Pixel Values now prints the true pixel value but only
when in grey mode.

385d384
< 	double    true_value;
405c404
< 	          xvd_query_value(xvdisplay, x, y, &true_value, &index, NULL);
---
> 	          xvd_query_value(xvdisplay, x, y, NULL, &index, NULL);
463,464c462
< 		       value = true_value;
< /*		       value = ((color.red + color.green + color.blue)/3) >> 8; */
---
> 		       value = ((color.red + color.green + color.blue)/3) >> 8;
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   How to include the taste of Glendronach in a multi-media system?
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: muggleton@xenon.arc.nasa.gov (Joan Muggleton, CSC, MS219-1,415-604-6419)
Subject: xprism: title lines and plot border
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords:  xprism
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:14:00 GMT

Khoros users:

Does anyone know how to get a plot title with more than one line with
xprism2? I am a new user, and there may be a way, but I've overlooked.

Also, is there a way to draw a border around the entire plot? I know
there is a "box" option that draws four axes, but we need a border
around the entire plot, including the legend, title, etc.

Thanks in advance,

Joan Muggleton
NASA Ames Research
From: martijn@scanner.frw.uva.nl
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Khoros Teaching Materials?
Date: 21 Jan 93 10:38:14 GMT


In a few months I will have to start teaching Khoros to
students and staff from various disciplines (history,
historical geography, archaeology, etc). Before I start
to reinvent the wheel, is there anyone out there who
has already produced teaching materials for this kind of
audience (short courses, demos, exercises...) and is
willing to share them? If you have, please contact me
directly at martijn@scanner.frw.uva.nl. If you are not
free to share your teaching materials, please let me
know under what conditions sharing would be possible.

Martijn van Leusen
Researcher, SURF-project `Distribution of Image Processing
Techniques in the Alpha-Sciences'
Faculty of Environmental Sciences
University of Amsterdam
From: anadeem@ampere.comp.graphics.research (Ahmed Nadeem)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Edge Detection And Segmentation Using Khoros And PV-WAVE Software
Date: 27 Jan 93 08:22:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: ampere.ANADEEM.93Jan27012216
Distribution: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Organization: /home/ampere1/anadeem/.organization

Netters,
        I am currently working on a research project that involves generating
solid or geometric models from MRI images. Part of the procedure will require 
me to possibly perform Thresholding & Edge Detection on my MRI images in order
to find out which pixels lie on boundaries between two different regions. 
Thus, I would like to have an Image Processing Software package that has good 
Edge Detection and Classification ( Segmentation ) modules/routines.  
        I have heard a lot about Khoros ( University Of New Mexico) and 
PV-WAVE (Precision Visuals) and was curious if other professionals or students
had any experience on how good they are for the above purposes. Suggestions 
on other software packages are also much welcome.
                                                       Thanks,
                                                              Ahmed Nadeem
From: Peter.Averkamp@e20.physik.tu-muenchen.de (Peter Averkamp)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: Xvroutine to cut polygons from images?
Date: 25 Jan 93 13:39:31 GMT

On Jan 23, 17:36, wog@rrze2.rrze.uni-erlangen.de wrote:
{ Subject: Xvroutine to cut polygons from images?
>
> Has anyone ever written an xvroutine to cut more complicated
> structures, say unions of polygons, from a displayed image
> interactively?  (The selected region may then be masked by a newly
> created binary image, or the rest clipped to 0.0, or whatever...)
>
>                                  (wog@cnve.rrze.uni-erlangen.de)
}-- End of excerpt from wog@rrze2.rrze.uni-erlangen.de

Patrick Haggard has made a sample workspace available to use
editimage polygon annotations as non-rectangular ROI's;

Look under ftp.eece.unm.edu:/pub/khoros/contrib/free_ROI.tar.Z

\Peter

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From: hughesl@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (Larry Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Anyone written an ERDAS.gis -> .viff conversion pgm?
Keywords: conversion programming khoros ERDAS gis
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:45:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: leela.1jp4r5INNqfp
Organization: OSU CS Outreach Services, Corvallis, Oregon
NNTP-Posting-Host: atlantis.cs.orst.edu

Well, before I start hacking into it, I thought I'd see if anyone
has possibly written an ERDAS.gis to .viff conversion routine.  If
so, I'd be interested in hearing from you, as I am not really looking
forward to the challenge in the short time frame I have
to do it.



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From: sram@iitk.ernet.in (1619 - RAMASESHAN S - CE)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: KHOROS not received
Date: 22 Jan 93 10:56:21 GMT


  Dear sirs,
             Indian Institute of Tecnology, Kanpur 208 016 UP India has sent      a bank draft No. MUS 084144 dated 26 November 1992 for US $ 350/- against       order for Khoros software by registered post on 30 November 1992. We had        requested the supply of KHOROS on DC6250 cartridge tape. We have not received   the same till now.
             Kindly advise us the position and arrange to send the same urgently to us if it has not been done already. Thanks.
                                                  Ramaseshan
                                       Professor of Civil Engineering
                                       India Inst of Tech KANPUR 208 016 UP
                                                  INDIA
From: liang@iesd.auc.dk (Liang Jian Ming)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: (none)
Date: 21 Jan 93 12:50:19 GMT

Dear Sir,

I met a problem. I could not display the image on my screen. What I did is to 
try the example 1 in the cantata system on my machine (tyr.iesd.auc.dk) by use 
of the machine (castello.vision.auc.dk). The following is the procedure I took.

1)xhost +castello.vision.auc.dk ---on my machine tyr.iesd.auc.dk

2)rlogin rlogin castello.vision.auc.dk 

2)export DISPLAY=tyr.iesd.auc.dk:0.0 ---on castello.vision.auc.dk

3)cantata -restore $KHOROS_HOME/repos/workspace/examples/example1.Z
 (The cantata master form appears on my screen with the example 1, which is to 
  enhance a dim image.)

and then

4)I pressed the RUN action button, and I tried to display the input and output
  images on my screen, and I got the messages from the system:
  .(0_warm) Can only display BYTE image. Do you wish to convert the image? ... 
    the image will be normalized to 255. note: if ..... 
    (I clicked the Cont button)
  .(1_warn) Image is a byte image, but this terminal can only display 
   monochrome images. Do you wish to dither the image?
   (if I press the "Stop", an error message is given "Unable to display image";
    if I press the "Cont", the system goes down as well as our X windows 
    OpenWindows)
Note that  the version of X windows is OpenWindows;
           the machine is Sun 4;
           the Operating System is UNIX.

I would like to know the problem, perhaps it is not a bug in cantata but a
bug in OpenWindows. Anyway, I appreciate your response about my problem.
I also would like to be a member of the Khoros mailing list.



Many Thanks & Best Regards.


Jianming Liang 
PS: My address is 
==========================================================================
Jianming Liang
Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
Institute for Electronic Systems
The University of Aalborg
Fredrik Bajers Vej 7, E
DK-9220 Aalborg, Denmark

Telephone:
    +45 98 15 85 22 ext 5015 (office)
    +45 98 14 27 41 (home)
Telefax:
    +45 98 15 81 29
E-mail:
    liang@iesd.auc.dk
    liang@vision.auc.dk
=============================================================================
From: milsh@nmr-z.mgh.harvard.edu (Alex Milshteyn)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: editimage-problems ...
Date: 22 Jan 93 13:48:28 GMT
Organization: Mass General Hospital CIPR Imaging Center

In article <42779@pprg.eece.unm.edu.pprg.unm.edu> luis@pasun1.gkss.de (Luis Kornblueh) writes:
>Hi,
>I have problems in using edit- and putimage. I've translated the Khoros-package
>on a Sun IPC/SunOS 4.1.3 with OpenWindows 3. After starting editimage or
>putimage the OpenWindows sytem crashs. Is their anybody who knows why?
>Cheerio, Luis

- I have encountered same problem twice before.
Does not happen any more, although I did nothing about it.
Quite honestly, I did not attribute the crash to Khoros,
since I had some other nasty things running in the background.

Alex

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Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: rpatil@nmsu.edu (Raj Patil)
Subject: ADRG Images...
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Distribution: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:59:49 GMT


Hi:

Anyone working with ADRG images. Defense Mapping Agency Uses this
format. I have a CD-ROM with some images but I am not able to 
find the software which can read these images. Any help is
appreciated.

Raj P
From: traenkne@sps201.lds.loral.com (Carl Traenkner)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: importing / exporting cantata variables to/from environment variables
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:16:52 GMT
Organization: Loral Data Systems

I would like to import and export environment variables to/from
cantata workspace variables.  Is this built in or will I have to
make two new control glyphs??

If anyone has info please help me out..

Thanks in advance, Carl Traenkner


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From: mosscrp@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Khoros availability
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:01:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.42843

Hello;
Can I get Khoros source code and some binaries on a CD from you people, or
anyone else?
Does anyone have it for the NeXT on an OD?

I wish to avoid the time to ftp and to potential errors.

Any other format available?

Thank you.
Sincerely;
David R. Mosscrop
From: jogl@merry.imib.rwth-aachen.de (Joachim Glaubrecht  #Alwd#)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: (none)
Date: 22 Jan 1993 10:09:46 GMT
Organization: Institut f. Med. Statistics @ Dokumentation
NNTP-Posting-Host: merry.imib.rwth-aachen.de

In article <42776@pprg.eece.unm.edu.pprg.unm.edu> liang@iesd.auc.dk (Liang Jian Ming) writes:

...
>   (if I press the "Stop", an error message is given "Unable to display image";
>    if I press the "Cont", the system goes down as well as our X windows 
>    OpenWindows)
>...
>Jianming Liang 
>PS: My address is 
>    liang@iesd.auc.dk
>    liang@vision.auc.dk

hi,

i think it is a problem of the two X-implementations and not of the 
Khoros-System.

we have the same problem with an animation tool (xgrasp) displaying it
from unix to vax/vms. The X-System on the VAX crashes.

using KHOROS on a unix-station and displaying the results to
Dec-Windows with a DXWM will loose all that little "Warning-Boxes" like
"Do you wish to convert the image? ...".

maybe another Windows-Manager can solve your problem ...

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From: kelly@c3serve.c3.lanl.gov (Patrick M. Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: C-3 Toolbox Updated 1/26/93
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:02:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.42844


About a month ago I made a toolbox of routines available
on pprg.eece.unm.edu named c3.tar.Z.  A few more routines
have now been added into it, for those that are interested.
The most significant new routine is named "patrem".  This
routine (put together by Jim White) will generate a filter
for removing periodic patterns in an image (such as periodic
scanner noise, etc.)  An example of using this routine
is included in $C3/data/sample.wsp.02.Z.
 
     - Pat
 
All code in this toolbox is subject to the following copyright/disclaimer:
 
 
    ########################################################################
    #                                                                      #
    #  Copyright, 1992/1993, The Regents of the University of California.  #
    #  This software was produced under a U.S. Government contract         #
    #  (W-7405-ENG-36) by the Los Alamos National Laboratory, which is     #
    #  operated by the University of California for the U.S.  Department   #
    #  of Energy.  The U.S. Government is licensed to use, reproduce,      #
    #  and distribute this software.  Neither the Government nor the       #
    #  University makes any warranty, express or implied, or assumes       #
    #  any liability responsibility for the use of this software.          #
    #                                                                      #
    ########################################################################

--
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From: donna@peabody.eece.unm.edu (Donna Koechner)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: Help desperately wanted if someone is reading
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:41:04 GMT

On Jan 26,  8:41pm, Markus Hirt wrote:
} Subject: Re: Help desperately wanted if someone is reading
} 
} There IS a Khoros FAQ for Compiling - I have the  Oct  03, 1992 version
} here. It's perhaps obsolete - but I can email it to you if you can't
} find it elsewhere...
} 
}-- End of excerpt from Markus Hirt


The most current FAQ's are available in the pub/khoros/release
release directory (compile-FAQ, khoros-FAQ) on pprg.eece.unm.edu.

Donna
From: tong@sun-ra.rsip.lsu.edu (Zheng Tong)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: Anyone written an ERDAS.gis -> .viff conversion pgm?
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:18:35 GMT

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> Well, before I start hacking into it, I thought I'd see if anyone
> has possibly written an ERDAS.gis to .viff conversion routine.  If
> so, I'd be interested in hearing from you, as I am not really looking
> forward to the challenge in the short time frame I have
> to do it.
> 
> 
> 
> _   /|                 larry e. hughes
> \`0_o'' Oop,           hughesl@atlantis.cs.orst.edu
>  -( )=  Ack!           hughes@fsl.orst.edu
>    U                   CI$: 70012,2213
> 

ERDAS has a 128 byte head record followed by line interleaved 
data. Therefore, you can use raw2viff, set head offset 128 byte 
and specify corresponding row and column number of the image,
to get a viff image. Then use viff2tiff to get the tiff image.

Hope it helps.

___________________________________ Sincerely ________________________________
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___________________________________ Sincerely ________________________________
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 Remote Sensing & Image Processing Lab	| (W) (504) 388-5269
 Louisiana State University		| (H) (504) 336-0798 (Leave message)
 Baton Rouge, LA 70803  		| E-mail: tong@sun-ra.rsip.lsu.edu

Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
From: rbraun@jazz.concert.net (Robin Braun)
Subject: FTP/Gopher
Organization: MCNC Center for Communications -- CONCERT Network
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:34:15 GMT


I am new to the gopher environment, and I am having trouble
establishing an FTP gateway through gopher. The message that
returns is "Nothing Available". I am running gopher on Ultrix V.4.1
and Mach 2.1. Other accesses appear to be working normally, and
I am completely frustrated and baffled by this problem.
Thanks in advance for your help.

Robin Braun
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 08:38:46 -0600
Original-To: gopher-news@boombox.micro.umn.edu
From: williw1@mail.auburn.edu (Wade Williams)
X-Sender: williw1@ducserv.duc.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: WAIS Indexes
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Distribution: comp

>I tried to set up some indexes as specified in gopherd.8.
>
>%mkdir $gopher_data_dir/FAQ/.emacsindex
>%cd $gopher_data_dir/FAQ/.emacsindex
>%mv /tmp/emacs-faq  .     
>%waissindex -t dash emacs-faq
>
>Then I checked my indexes with waissearch,
>
>%waissearch -d index dired
>
>< This works, I found two hits >
>
>Then I created the file $gopher_data_dir/FAQ/.Links :
>
>Type=7
>Name;Emacs Frequently Asked questions
>path=7/.emacsindex/index
>
>Then tried gopher/xgopher and went  to the menu entry 
>
><idx> Emacs Frequently Asked Question
>
>clicked  on it, got the question box, typed "dired" and got a:
>
>        "Server error: Unknown index type"
>
>Tried the same with filetype=mail and with a mail folder and got same
>response. I can't see what's wrong. 
>
>My gopherd get's started by inetd 
>
>        ../../gopherd -I -c $gopher_data_dir 70
>
>With the exception of the WAIS indexes everything seems fine.


I have basically the same setup, except that I'm not running under inetd. 
I get the same error and as yet, no one has been able to help.

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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Mac server and binary files
From: Chris Colebank <chris.colebank@sonoma.edu>
Date: 25 Jan 93 13:17:37 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: Sonoma State University
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d1

I have set up a Macintosh gopher server.  The process was straightforward
until we tried to put binary files on.  The protocol says we should be
able to do this but doesn't say how.  The instructions allude to the
Hypercard stack Gopher's Helper.  The rub is that Gopher's Helper doesn't
see the files to set the item type.  Has anyone done this yet?

                       chris.colebank@sonoma.edu