From: me@comstore.uark.edu (My Account)
Subject: Re: Rapists on the payroll of CPI(M).
Keywords: Spineless society
Organization: University of Arkansas
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:48:22 GMT

In article <83768@netnews.upenn.edu> sarkar@tuna.cis.upenn.edu (Nilanjan  
Sarkar) writes:
> In article <18JUL199221332980@vax2.concordia.ca>  
debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE) writes:
> >Hello Netters:
> >
> > Here is another of my diatribes in the wake of the rapes and  
lawlessness in
> >Calcutta. I propose the de-stabilization of the CPI(M) ASAP. I have  
also
> >indicated how to do it. Interested readers may choose to go thru' this  
article
> >and respond appropriately. 
> >
> 
> >questions which are merely rhetorics and nothing else. I hace carefully  
chosen
> >to avoid many theoretical issues, like measurement of the theory of  
Communism
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> >- connections with CPI(M) etc. and etc. that make me sick. 
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> 
> It is very difficult - isn't it ?! Anyway, it is a good idea to avoid  
those 
> theories if they do not corroborate your ideas about Communism.
> 
> 
> 
> >
> 
> > thought about it ? I am not against Indians who have settled in the  
U.S. But 
> > at least one can provide some help. Many people settle outside their  
hometown;
> > in this case many have settled outside their homeland. That does not  
mean that
> > one will turn a deaf year to what's going on. One should (IMO) try  
protecting
> > the old fort that saved us when we were weak and not so strong. Is  
this a very
> > foolish statement, my dear net-intellectuals ????
> 
> 
> Here I agree with your sentiment. 
> 
> 
> > called " Communism ", we must agree that rape of women by lumpens who  
are in
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> > the payroll of the CPI(M), MUST END. It is necessary that we must take  
a 
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> 
> What about those lumpens who are in the payroll of other political  
parties ? Or
> are you suggesting other parties do not have any ?
> 
> 
> >
> > It is my opinion that the problem is two faced:
> >
> > (a) Vandalism and hooliganism PRIMARILY ORGANIZED BY CPI(M) party.  
Numerous
> >     rapes, deaths of police officers and other people have occurred  
over the
> >     years from 1977 till date. 
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> 
> Why are you choosing 1977 ? Why not from 1947 ? No I am NOT a  
sympathiser of
> CPI(M), I myself am quite fed up with that party, I am just trying to  
point
> out the bias in your attitude.
> 
> 
> > (b) Communism is a total farce. It basically originated in the minds  
of some
> >     jokers - like Karl Marx and Freddie Engels. Evaluation of the  
history of
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> 
> Whether communism is a total farce or not depends on how you look at it.  
I am
> certainly not an expert on the theoretiocal issues (which make you sick  
!) but
> I think it is better said if you add IMHO before the statement.
> 
> But, in spite of your distaste, calling Marx and Engels jokers is  
certainly the
> height of your argument. Marx gave a philosophy which he thought would  
solve
> some of the social evils of the then society. It did not for whatever  
reasons.
> But, just because his theory did not produce the anticipated results -  
he is
> indeed a joker - what an wonderful argument ! If someone proves  
Darwinism is
> incorrect - he(Darwin) is certainly a joker - isn't he ??
> 
> 
> >
> > (1) Lets' use the Asia Network and lobby politically to try putting  
pressure
> >     on WB Govt. Let's send ultimatum to Joyti Basu and his `commrades'  
asking
> >     him to resign, lock-stock-and-barrel, and, transfer the power to  
the Centre
> >     It is also suggested that freedom of newspapers be somewhat  
curtailed.
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> 
> Why ? 
> 
> 
> 
> >     That's is more important than some stupid newspaper. Ban all  
Communist
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> >     organizations for good. The intellectuals (jholawalas) will be  
very much
>       ----------------------
> 
> 
> How can you do that in a democratic country ? And why ? Just because you  
don't
> like them ? Or you are suggesting 'might is right' and you will do  
whatever
> you want if you have the power ? In other words - dictatorship ?
> 
> You should be mature enough to realize that banning is not the solution
> (whether it is a book, organization or a movie) . If you want people not 
> to follow communism try to educate them why it is not good and not by 
> banning communist literature, organization and so on - it will have  
adverse effect.
> 
> 
> 
> > (2) Concurrent to (1), let's send financial support to right-wing and  
ultra
> >     right-wing parties to try their best to de-stabilize the CPI(M)  
government
> >     Threaten all CPI(M) active party workers at Alimuddin Street,  
Calcutta, 
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> 
> How are you so sure that those parties will not rape ? 
> 
> And why threaten ? Doesn't everybody has a right to follow what (s)he  
believes ?
> You sound like a terrorist.
> 
> 
> Aside, your concern about the law and order in WB is well appreciated  
and I am
> willing to join you with whatever little capacity I have but I beg to  
differ from
> the methodology you described in your article.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> -Nilanjan
> 
> In response to the tragic incident of Calcutta (Public rape of a girl),  
I would like to say that the Calcutta Police department should immediately  
conduct a public trial of the criminals and they should be given life  
imprisonment without bail.  That in turn will increase public confidence  
in the system, and at the same time help to depoliticize the system to  
some extent. What is so painful about the entire incidence is the  fact  
that one is forced to think that the society as a whole is spineless,  
corrupt and impotent to do anything.  And this society consists of all of  
us, our brothers, fathers, uncles, sisters and mothers. -- Aditi Sen
> 
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