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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 10:39:19 EDT
From:         Mauricio Alvarenga <MAINT@BRCPRM.BITNET>
Subject:      Overridind CMS immediate commands

As I posted last week, I have to get rid of HX,HI and TS immediate
commands. I've allready tried IMMCMD and NUCXLOAD and everything is OK
until I call STAIRS/VM. Grant Harders suggested that I would get what I
want by creating a new CMS without theese commands. Again it works
fine until I call STAIRS. In both situations when I type hx
after calling stairs I receive a protection exception at address 380D4C
in routine DLNCLDR. The funny thing about it is that, with my new cms,
after the  the prot exception CMS will recognize HX as an immediate
command and the other immediate commands will remain unknown. Any other
ideas?

Thanks in adva


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 | Mauricio Alvarenga      |    Mineral Research Company - CPRM     |
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 18:11:00 PDT
From:         Leonard D Woren <LDW@USCMVSA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: PROC TAPELABEL and 3490E drives

I have a version of TAPEMAP which will print the correct length, even
when IDRC is used.  I have a high degree of faith in the accuracy of
this.  I am not distributing the source at this time, but I have just
made the load module available from SERVICE@USCMVSA as
   MVSUTIL/TAPEMAP.LOADNEW
(Since this is without source, I've included a cataloged procedure to
run it.  You'll have to make the load module name match the proc one
way or another.)  Note that load modules can't be mailed -- you must
either have an NJE return address or use the MAKEFTP command and then
FTP it.  If you haven't used SERVICE before, first send
   HELP
   HELP GET
   HELP MAKEFTP

I have done some rearranging of columns in this version of TAPEMAP.
This version also has massive internal changes.  Comments/problem
reports directly to me.

This version does not yet explicitly support 3490E.  I'd like to add
that support, with the cooperation of someone who has 3490E.  Please
contact me directly to arrange something.


Leonard D. Woren      Senior MVS Systems Programmer
<LDW@USCMVSA.BITNET>  <LDW@MVSA.USC.EDU>
University of Southern California
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:40:00 PDT
From:         Leonard D Woren <LDW@USCMVSA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: CD-ROM

IBM not documenting the format of bookmanager files is just another
example of why people are fleeing proprietary systems and formats.

Steve's original question stated that he'd like to be able to write an
X interface for displaying bookmanager files.  I agree.  I want to be
able to copy from the CD-ROMs to MVS dasd, and fire up an x-whatever
on my workstation to view the books.

It's really too bad that IBM still doesn't have a clue.  IBM software
and hardware is moving forward, but the rest of the computing world is
moving forward *faster*.

/Leonard
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From:         Stace Cameron <GH0234%SPRINGB.bitnet@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU>
Subject:      IBM 3193 Terminal

I am using an IBM 3193 full page terminal and cannot remember/find how to
configure my session to use all the lines. Would someone help me?

Stace Cameron, Data Processing Analyst
Computing Services, Southern Illinois University School of Medicine
PO Box 19230, Springfield IL 62794-9230
GH0234@SPRINGB   217-782-4410   FAX: 217-785-5561
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 02:19:00 PDT
From:         Leonard D Woren <LDW@USCMVSA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: PROC TAPELABEL and 3490E drives

> Leonard, there are lots of VSE shops that would like to be able to

The last program that I wrote for DOS ran under DOS/VS R26 (pre-VSE.)
In other words, I don't know how anymore.  If you can send me the
macro calls for opening & reading tapes and writing to print files,
I'll try to integrate it via conditional assembly.  TAPEMAP uses EXCP
to read the tape.  I'll also need to know how to get the residual
count in order to compute the block length.

> use your TAPEMAP.  And, how about VM?

Well, at least we have a VM system here, so I might be able to learn
enough to do that.  But don't hold your breath on either of these,
unless someone gives me all the system-dependent stuff necessary,
as mentioned above.  Also, for each system, I'll need to know how to
determine from control blocks whether the tape is a reel, 3480, or
3490E.

/Leonard
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 09:40:54 EDT
From:         Larry Holder <##09@UTMARTN.BITNET>
Subject:      VSE?ESA

> This is directed to users who run administrative packages under VSE.
> I am interested in hearing about what package you use for you
> Student Information System and Finincial Resources Systems.  Also
> are you running them under VSE/ESA.
>     _________________________________________________________________
>     William J. Forde                Polytechnic University, NY

Our SIS is written in-house.  Student Financial Aid is the exception,
being a purchased package called SAFE (recently acquired by ACT).
Both run in CICS within VSE/ESA, which we happen to run as a guest
under VM/ESA.  Another guest machine is MUSIC, which among other
things handles all e-mail.  Our system currently handles about 150
terminals, and the files track 5,500 current students plus retaining
5 years of history online.  We outgrew our 43xx box, and have seen
major improvements with our 9221-150, which we hope to upgrade to a
model 170.  The announcement of VSE/ESA 1.3 with 31-bit addressing is
going to be a major help in alleviating potential CICS constraint
which is not a problem right now, but is not far from it considering
the growth of our systems and additional users.

Larry Holder
Senior Programmer/Analyst
The University of Tennessee at Martin Computer Center, Martin, TN 38237
Bitnet: ##09@UTMARTN  Phone: (901) 587-7890  Fax: (901) 587-7841

Software: VSE/ESA 1.1.1, CICS/VSE 2.1.0, VM/ESA 1.0, COBOL-II 1.3.2
Hardware: IBM 9221-150; 9336 FBA dasd; 9348 tape; 7171 protocol cvrt
New PSW:  (Personal Status Words): Saved by grace (Romans 1:16 & 8:38)
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:05:27 EST
From:         "William J. Forde" <FORDE@POLYVM.BITNET>
Subject:      VSE?ESA

This is directed to users who run administrative packages under VSE.
I am interested in hearing about what package you use for you
Student Information System and Finincial Resources Systems.  Also
are you running them under VSE/ESA.

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    VM Systems Manager              333 Jay St., Brooklyn,NY 11201
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:08:59 EDT
From:         Leonard Boyle <LENBOYLE@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: CD-ROM
              27 Aug 1992 23:28:48 GMT from <schafer@IS.RICE.EDU>

On Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:28:48 GMT Richard Alan Schafer said:
>In article <19920827082249SEB1525@MVS.draper.com>, SEB1525@MVS.draper.com
>(Steve Bacher) writes:
>|>
>|> Any chance that IBM will open up the protocol/format of the stuff
>|> so we can roll our own?
>
>IBM has already done this.  The BookManager/Build product describes the
>GML tags that are used to build this kind of book.  (I obviously can't
>say whether the IBM books use some additional tags, since we don't get
>the source, just the output of BookManager/Build.)
>
>--
>Richard
For VM/ESA ESA and VM/XA you can get the source bookie files.
I guess for these files one could write a bookie gml to tex translator
to allow display on different platforms. Or ask DCF to output
PostScript files.

Because the bookie gml files are not available for most products, I
assume that Steve would like the format of the book files.

Maybe IBM could ship the source gml files for all books, release the
book formats, or generate tex DVI files.
From: pengyue@ucrmath.ucr.edu (peng-yue lin)
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Subject: Please help in the info of ES9000
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:45:29 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside


Could someone help me in answering the following questions:
  1. IBM will not support 3090 after 1993, and  ES9000 will be used to 
     replace (not upgrade) 3090. Is this a true statement?
  
  2. What are the major difference between 3090 and ES9000?

  3. What is the price range for ES9000?

  4. What is the minimum required operating expense for ES9000 per year?

  5. We have DL/I, DB2, and VSAM in 3090 under MVS/ESA v 3.13 and 
     VM/HPO v5, what upgrade will be needed for those databases?


Please e-mail your answers to pengyue@ucrmath.ucr.edu.
Your help will be really appreciated.
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 10:08:51 EDT
From:         Mauricio Alvarenga <MAINT@BRCPRM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Managing links to inter-system VM minidisks

Dave, I don't know about any product, but I think you can do the  following:

- Make two machines (one in each system) with privilege class so they
  can use locate command, the machine   will run DISC.

- Make a 'LINK EXEC' that will send a msg(tell) to the machine that is running
  on the other system, the msg will contain userid and mdisk that wants to make
  the r/w link. After that it will enter wakeup waiting for a reply.

- The disc machine will then do a locate command for that address. If the
  address doesn't exist then the link can be done. If the address exists
  you can see if it is in r/O (VDEVFLAG = VDEVBLOK+7 in HPO) and if so
  you still can give r/w to the other user. The disc machine will send
  a msg back to the userid running LINK EXEC with a return code that
  authorizes the r/w link.

Dave I assume that you have the same userid for each user on both systems
and that you don't allow r/w links beteween users (User A cannot link
r/w to User B cause this would fool the exec for user B)

If you do allow r/w links among users you can do:

If user is in r/o, get VDEVLINK (VDEVBLOK+20) see if the address is the
same of your vdevblok, if yes no more links. If the address is not
equal what you have is the vdevblok of another user that is linking
your mdisk so look at that vdevblok to see if it is r/o and if yes
look at displacement '20'x. Do that until you find your vdevblok
in that displacement (that will be the last link).

Hope this helps


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 | Mauricio Alvarenga      |    Mineral Research Company - CPRM     |
 | VM Consultant           |    Rio de Janeiro - Brasil             |
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 08:41:13 CET
From:         Ralf Kuhfahl <KUHFAHL@DMDTU11.URZ.TU-MAGDEBURG.DE>
Subject:      PRT/KYB and VM/XA
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Hi IBM-freaks,

on our IBM4381 we have an old aplicationprogram, that needs a
PRT/KYB-console (in typewriter-mode). -((  The machine runs with VM/XA and
the masterconsole only works as a typewriter in 370-mode.
Who can please help me to find (or to define) a typewriter for VM/XA.


sorry for my german-english -)

Thanks in advance Ralf
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 12:23:13 EDT
From:         Fran Hensler <FJH@SRU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: PROC TAPELABEL and 3490E drives

I just discovered that the tape map function (TMP) function of DITTO will
calculate the number of feet of tape.  I don't know how it handles compressed
records.

DITTO is available for both VSE and VM (same product number for both).

/Fran
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 09:19:00 PDT
From:         KIMWAH@ITIVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Job Status Notification

One of our computer centres recently migrated from MVS/XA to ESA 4.2.0.  The sys
   tem programmer has prompted to me that the job status notification upon logon
    was no longer there.
Users used to get notification upon logon when they submitted jobs in their prev
   ious logon session.

We suspected that something was left out during the customisation of TSO of JES2
   .  Anybody has solution for this ?

Thanks in advance.

Poh KIm Wah
Senior Data Centre Planning Specialist
National Computer Board
Republic of Singapore
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 06:33:08 EDT
From:         Maynard Calkin <MSC3@NERVM.NERDC.UFL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: VM/SP 6 and a 4381 R14 with 32 megs

On Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:13:54 EST William J. Forde said:
>I am currently running VM/HPO 5 on a 4381-R14.  I want to install
>VM/SP 6.  Since HPO is not on HESC.  What can i do with the extra
>16Megs with VM/SP 6.  I aslo run MVS/SP as a Guest under VM.
>Can I somehow alocate this 16Megs to MVS/SP without running
>in SP Mode.
>
Unless you ordered VM/SP 6 before 12/31/91, it is no longer available.
You can however install VM/ESA 370 feature which will support your 32M
of memory. VM/ESA (370 feature only) has replaced VM/SP in Group 1-A1
on the HESC.

Maynard
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:13:54 EST
From:         "William J. Forde" <FORDE@POLYVM.BITNET>
Subject:      VM/SP 6 and a 4381 R14 with 32 megs

I am currently running VM/HPO 5 on a 4381-R14.  I want to install
VM/SP 6.  Since HPO is not on HESC.  What can i do with the extra
16Megs with VM/SP 6.  I aslo run MVS/SP as a Guest under VM.
Can I somehow alocate this 16Megs to MVS/SP without running
in SP Mode.

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    VM Systems Manager              333 Jay St., Brooklyn,NY 11201
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From: howard@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Howard Betel)
Subject: workload reporting
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 02:04:34 GMT

I'm currently in the process of looking for a new workload reporting system.
I figured some of you out there must currently be using one and could offer
some suggestions.

Our system needs to support about 100 people under either a TSO or CMS 
environment.  It should allow the tracking of multiple projects and
their current stage of development.  It would be nice to have advanced
planning tools to schedule resources for new work.  It should allow for
summarizing each project for billing purposes.           

I'm also considering a mainframe front end to process the weekly
hours as the programmers enter them.  Then a PC based system to extract
all the needed report information.

Any ideas, tips or direction would be appreciated.

-- 
Howard Betel                                    Howard@maccs.dcss.McMaster.CA
Dept of Computer Science                     ...!unet!utai!utgpu!maccs!howard
McMaster University
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 00:58:57 EDT
From:         Fran Hensler <FJH@SRU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: PROC TAPELABEL and 3490E drives

On Thu, 3 Sep 1992 18:11:00 PDT Leonard D Woren said:
>I have a version of TAPEMAP which will print the correct length, even
>when IDRC is used.  ...

Leonard, there are lots of VSE shops that would like to be able to
use your TAPEMAP.  And, how about VM?
 /Fran
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:04:00 PDT
From:         LDW@USCMVSA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Restored IBM support for MVS/SP

(This was rejected the first time.  Sorry if it shows up twice...)

I'm surprised that IBM still supports MVS/SP now, so I'd be surprised
if they extend the support.  And, as of the end of this year (I think;
somebody correct me if I'm wrong), MVS/XA will no longer be marketed.
MVS/ESA runs on all currently marketed IBM processors, so there's no
business case for IBM to support ancient versions, and MVS/SP V1 is
certainly ancient.  They probably figure they're not making any money
on selling you a newer processor, so they they may as well cut their
maintenance costs by dropping old software versions.

/Leonard
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From: schafer@is.rice.edu (Richard Alan Schafer)
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Subject: Re: CD-ROM
Date: 27 Aug 1992 23:28:48 GMT
Organization: Rice University

In article <19920827082249SEB1525@MVS.draper.com>, SEB1525@MVS.draper.com
(Steve Bacher) writes:
|> 
|> Any chance that IBM will open up the protocol/format of the stuff
|> so we can roll our own?

IBM has already done this.  The BookManager/Build product describes the
GML tags that are used to build this kind of book.  (I obviously can't
say whether the IBM books use some additional tags, since we don't get
the source, just the output of BookManager/Build.)

-- 
Richard
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:43:00 CST
From:         Kriss Davis <CCFXKPD@UCHIMVS1.UCHICAGO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Sequention access of KSDS file

I think you need to specify at least a generic key for a
START.  Or leave the START out and just use READ instead of
read next.

If you really only need sequential access, you can make access mode
sequential instead of dynamic.

I program in MVS, so maybe the above is different under VM.

Kriss
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:00:00 PDT
From:         Gregory Plucinski 257508 <GRZES@PLWATU22.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: VM/SP 6 and a 4381 R14 with 32 megs

 Nothing, but try to run VM/SP 5 with HPO (CP Only) on real CPU - 0
  MVS/SP on CPU 0 and 1 (as prefered machine ) with dedicated CPU 1
 and VM/SP 6 ( and CMS e.t.c.) on CPU 0 as guest.

  It's not good solution but it can work.
 Better solution is VM/ESA with 370 feature (working in XA mode)

 Gregory

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> I am currently running VM/HPO 5 on a 4381-R14.  I want to install
> VM/SP 6.  Since HPO is not on HESC.  What can i do with the extra
> 16Megs with VM/SP 6.  I aslo run MVS/SP as a Guest under VM.
> Can I somehow alocate this 16Megs to MVS/SP without running
> in SP Mode.
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 08:22:50 PDT
From:         Ron Meyer <RONM@STANFORD.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: PROC TAPELABEL and 3490E drives

REPLY TO 09/03/92 18:22 FROM IBM-MAIN@RICEVM1.BITNET "IBM Mainframe Discussion
list": Re: PROC TAPELABEL and 3490E drives

Well Leonard,
             We'll soon have the 3490e at Stanford and I'd be
willing to help. ;-)
Ron

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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:35:10 EDT
Reply-To:     Arthur Gutowski <agutows@WAYNEST1>
From:         Arthur Gutowski <AGUTOWS@WAYNEST1.BITNET>
Subject:      Tape Management Systems

G'day,

Our shop is looking for tape management systems alternatives on MVS.  We are
currently running one of the most popular systems (in terms of numbers of
users, not necessarily in other facets).  We are sharing our tape management
database with VMTAPE, as we share our tape library with VM.  We are looking
for something that is compatible with VMTAPE, and that will save us some
aggravation and some money.  Anybody got any experiences they could share?

I heard talk that IBM may be coming out either with a tape management system,
or at least the facility to put one on without extensive usermods.  Anyone
have more details on this?  The only downside to IBM's proposed product(?),
from what little I've heard, is that you have to buy everything with it
(ie, DFHSM, DFDSS, etc., etc.)  We have no interest in buying all of that
becuase we already have third party products that perform those functions
quite well, and we are happy with them.  Can anyone substantiate, refute, or
justify that claim?

I have set the reply-to field to me, to keep the net clutter down (esp.
since there is potential for some negative commentary that could inflame
someone--I think we know who I'm talking about.  I suspect, though, that
some will be interested in what's said, so I'll summarize if so (flames,
of course, would be filtered out to protect the innocent, or the not-quite-
so-innocent ;) .                    /\
                                   (all the while, humming "Dragnet" theme)
Thanks for your time,
  Art

  /===\   Arthur J. Gutowski, MVS System Programmer
  o o   WSU University Computing Center
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 Have a day.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 12:48:23 EDT
From: James Justice <JAY@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>
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Subject: Re: CD-ROM

In article <BtIos8.M2s@rice.edu>, schafer@is.rice.edu (Richard Alan Schafer)
says:
>
>One thing that should be pointed out is that IBM is now shipping on every
>new CDROM of this sort copies of both BookManager/Read-DOS and OS/2, so you
>will *not* need anything extra to read them at your PC.  (Nick, that's another
>possible point for your argument about making BookManager/Read-VM supplied
>with CMS, I suppose.)
>
>One of the CDROM collections people should be aware of is the "Starter
>Collection" which is 4 CDs with just about every book IBM has ever put into
>softcopy format, according to the guy I talked to at SHARE who had put the
>collection together.  Couple that (at $250) with the fact that IBM will ship
>a free CDROM with every new product release, and the cost of your IBM library
>has just *dramatically* gone down.  Outside of older manuals which will
>probably never get updated and hence put on CD, from now on, CD is IBM's
>*preferred* means for distributing the books.

I wonder if you can access these CDs via NFS support in IBM's OS/2 CP/IP?  If
you could, I could get one CD reader and give access to CD doc to my whole
IBM system programmer team.
Does anyone know the answer?
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