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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 08:05:38 PDT
From:         DI001@CALPOLY.BITNET
Subject:      MacBinary downloads and MacKermit

Quick question for everyone.  We have been trying to establish a place
on our system for our local users to pick up software for both Macs and
PCs that is available freely.  The problem that I found is that I'd like to
be able to treat ftp and Kermit users on the Mac the same.

What I'd like to be able to do is place packages on the system as MacBinary
self extracting archives.  Zmodem and SU/Mac-IP can handle this fine, but
I haven't found a way to do it with Kermit.  Kermit seems to only want to
deal with text and regular binary on the Mac, this means that if the user
wants something, it must be in bin-hex format and he must have bin-hex
already.

Am I missing something?  Is there an extra utility that I haven't seen?
I'm trying MacKermit 0.9(40) which I believe to be the most current.

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George L. Westlund         | BITNET:      DI001@CALPOLY
Academic Computing Services| Internet:    gwestlu@polyslo.calpoly.edu
Cal Poly                   | Phone:       (805) 756-2516
San Luis Obispo, CA  93407 |
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 11:33:49 EDT
From:         Lawrence Gottesman <GOTTESMN@RPIECS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Status of Netware and C++ for AIX

>Does anyone know the current status of Netware or AIX becoming available under
>the HESC program.

Based on your subject header, I assume that you meant C++ for AIX rather
than just AIX.  Both C++ and Netware have been expressed on this list as
desirable for addition to HESC and according to Fred Dwyer of IBM, this
has been communicated to IBM.  At best, they will be available with the
next HESC update which was supposed to be late April to late May, the
last estimated dates made known to the list.
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 09:26:32 EDT
From:         Fred Dwyer <FDDWYER@RHQVM21.VNET.IBM.COM>
Comments: To: IBM-HESC%PSUORVM.BITNET@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu

 >From:    Jonathon Simon" <JSIMON%TRINITY.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU>
 >On Thu, 19 Mar 1992 14:14:15 EST Fred Dwyer said:
 >> MVS in HESC:  Still under IBM executive consideration.  We hope to
 >>have a final position by month end.  IF IT'S APPROVED it will probably
 >>take 6 months to implement.

 >Fred,
 >  Does this mean we won't hear about it for 6 months?  I was hoping
 >  this meant that the MVS platform would not be available until then, but
 >  the news would be.
                              -------------
No, we anticipate being able to advise the HESC membership shortly of
the final MVS decision.
                            Fred Dwyer
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 15:31:24 EDT
From:         Lawrence Gottesman <GOTTESMN@RPIECS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: CATIA for AIX

>Does any know if CATIA is available for AIX?   If it is available for
>RS/6000 machines, please add it (all CATIA products) to the HESC.

Yes, some 20 CATIA products have been available on the RS/6000's
for over a year.  18 of these are available under HESC Group II-D
and have been since October 1990.  We have not found any need for
the other two.  Check with your campus HESC TSC
(Technical Support Coordinator) for details as to fees and actual
products.  Also, be aware that certain CATIA products have other
CATIA products as prerequisites.  Consult the CATIA General
Information Manual for details.
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 14:57:28 EDT
From:         "JUDITH K. ALLIO" <jka0@LEHIGH.EDU>
Subject:      CATIA for AIX

Does any know if CATIA is available for AIX?   If it is available for
RS/6000 machines, please add it (all CATIA products) to the HESC.

Judith K. Allio
Software Librarian
Computing Center
(215)758-3993
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 23:20:05 CET
From:         Martin Misseyer <V67CVM10@HASARA11.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: CATIA for AIX

Yes, it is although i didn't ordered it but got the package two months ago.
Unfortunately, the person who did order CATIA got a bit suspicious about
the late shipment. In the end i couldn't install CATIA since it was
delivered on 8mm and i have only a 1/4" drive.

Martin Misseyer
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 12:28:34 EDT
From:         Lawrence Gottesman <GOTTESMN@RPIECS.BITNET>
Subject:      Proposals for HESC Inclusion

My thanks to Fred and others on the list who have suggested the AIX TIRS
and AIX Numerial Control PostProcessor products for inclusion in
HESC.  Our research groups need these products and I haven't found
the time to ask that they be included in HESC.

I have a question regarding the placement of the NC products.
One (NC PP Generator) is in Group I-G and the other (NC PP Generator
Execution Library) is in II-D.  I would question the proposed placement
of 5765-020 in Group I-G.  Doesn't it belong in Group II-D with the
other NC and CAD/CAM products?  I guess it doesn't matter to us if
there won't be any charges associated with 5765-020.  If there will be
and it will be a per license per machine fee like other products in
Goup I-G, then it would matter.

Many thanks to Fred for providing the Proposed List.  It has taken some
of the pressure off wondering what's in-store.  Hopefully not too much
time will pass before the next HESC announcement so that the proposed
list won't need much more amending.

By the way, does anyone have any info on the product below from the
proposed list?

I-G   NEW      5799-DRR   P91068       -        -
               Tex & Metafont/6000 Version 1.1
From: tjf0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Timothy J. Foley)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-hesc
Subject: Status of Netware and C++ for AIX
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:21:33 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Does anyone know the current status of Netware or AIX becoming available under
the HESC program.
-- 
Tim

******************************************************************************
* Timothy J. Foley     * Computing Consulting Services * Bethlehem, PA 18015 *
* Associate Director   * Lehigh University Building 8b *   215-758-3997      *
******************************************************************************
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:29:00 EDT
From:         REN@FAUVAX.BITNET

Is there a TSR (or a program that is transparent) that will do DOS traps, e.g.:
if a user forgets to put his disk in drive b: while scanning for viruses, it
doesn't go to DOS level, but prints a message like "YOU FOREST ANIMAL, YOU!
DISK MISSING IN DRIVE B: [gracefully exiting to main menu].  I have a similar
program written in Pascal, but it is more like Parent/Child, not forked though.

Any ideas?

BTW, all of the PSes have V86B scanners, so they can't complain.  I guess we
will monitor the disk traffic...

Bye!!!
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 12:34:40 MEZ
From:         sven tuerpe <tuerpe@AIX520.INFORMATIK.UNI-LEIPZIG.DE>
Subject:      Information on gateways wanted
Comments: To: ADVISE-L%CANADA01.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU

  I'm a novice student of computer science and a novice networker.
  Is there anyone who can give me some information on gateways between
  the INTERNET and other networks?

  Sven Tuerpe
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 22:58:00 EST
From:         SUPSFRAN@STETSON.BITNET
Subject: Re: Compuserv

Thanks for all the help, we got it figured out!!!!!


                        Stephanie
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:24:25 HOE
From:         hoffmann@URZDFN.KARTOGRAPHIE.TU-DRESDEN.DBP.DE
Subject:      RE: Information on gateways wanted

Herr TUERPE,
   melden Sie sich am besten auf der TUD-LISTE an, dort kriegen Sie
schon von Ihren Kommilitonen ausreichende Hinweise.
Beste Osterwuensche,
F.Hoffmann, TUD, IfKG
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 14:45:06 EDT
From:         "John Atkinson" <ATKINSON@KENTVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Information on gateways wanted

I believe it is   ra.msstate.edu   (two s's)
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 12:00:00 EST
From:         JOHN HERON <JJH@PITTVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Information on gateways wanted

>From:  IN%"ADVISE-L@UGA.BITNET"  "User Services List" 16-APR-1992 11:23:02.34
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>Subject: Information on gateways wanted
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>From: DavidW
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>ra.mstate.edu in the file pub/docs/internetwork-mail-guide.
Date sent:  16-APR-1992 11:59:48
============================================================

Did I lose some of the information;

ftp ra.mstate.edu yields unknown host
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| John Heron                         |
| Academic Computing Specialist      |
| Computing and Information Services |
| University of Pittsburgh           |
| Bitnet: JJH@PITTVMS                |
| Internet: JJH@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU     |
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 17:56:00 EST
From:         SUPSFRAN@STETSON.BITNET
Subject:      Compuserv

I know that this topic has probably been addressed before, but is there
a way to send mail from Bitnet to someone who has Compuserv????


                                Stephanie(supsfran@stetson)
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 08:09:00 EST
From:         LEAL@STETSON.BITNET
Subject:      Bitnet/Internet code of ethics

Stetson University currently does not allow Bitnet access to the
student body.  We will be offering it to all students next
semester and I'm needing to put together a list of guidelines for
Bitnet use.  Does anyone have a code of ethics (specifically
for networks) or a list of dos/don'ts that I could review?

Thanks,
Kelly Leal
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:53:53 -0700
From:         JAMES@UCRAC1.UCR.EDU
Subject:      help desk institute courses
Comments: To: advise-l@uga.cc.uga.edu

I'd like to seek the opinion on the net about courses offered by the  Help
Desk Institute (HDI). HDI offers  2day courses/seminars with titles like
*Communicating effectively with help desk customers
*Call management for the help desk
*how to design and set up a successful help desk
etc, etc.
these courses cost approc $500 a pop (plus hotel, transport etc). My basic
question to those who have taken these any of these courses, did you learn
anything that you did not already know? was the course content worth the $500
fee? are there books on the market today that address these same issues in
nearly the same depth as they were (are) coveredd in the courses?

many thanx for any insights

james ssemakula
university of california, riverside.
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:08:00 CST
From:         "Jim Milles, SLU Law Library" <MILLESJG@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU>
Subject:      NEW LIST: NET-TRAIN Bitnet/Internet Trainers
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Subject: NEW LIST: NET-TRAIN Bitnet/Internet Trainers List

NET-TRAIN@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU - Bitnet/Internet Trainers List
NET-TRAIN@SLUVCA

     (Note: this is *not* a listserv list.)

NET-TRAIN is a discussion list for librarians, academic
department computer jocks, computing and information services
people--anyone who is involved in training or support of others
in using the resources available on Bitnet and Internet.  Issues
for discussion might include: Who does the training at a
particular institution?  Who gets trained--faculty, staff, and
students?  Who provides support for different groups of users?
How is responsibility for different areas divided among different
groups, for instance, academic librarians and computer support
professionals?  Plans include developing an archive of training
materials that have been developed in-house at various
institutions.

To subscribe to NET-TRAIN, send a subscription request via mail
text to MILLESJG@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU.  Please include "NET-TRAIN" in
the Subject: line.

Owner: James Milles <MILLESJG@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU>

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James Milles                                      (314) 658-2759
Head of Computer Services                   Fax:  (314) 658-3966
Saint Louis University Law Library       Bitnet: MILLESJG@SLUVCA
3700 Lindell Blvd.             Internet: millesjg@sluvca.slu.edu
St. Louis, Missouri  63108
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 23:49:00 EST
From:         "Craig M. Todd, VAX/UNIX Software Consultant, ACR,
              x3586" <CTODD@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Compuserv

>From: neil schier <schin@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
>Subject: RE:  Compuserv
>Sender: User Services List <ADVISE-L@UGA.BITNET>
>To: Craig Todd <CTODD@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU>
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>No sorry
>Neil


  Excellent use of the list Neil!

  Yes you can send mail to Compuserv members by replacing the comma
  in their user ID with a period and addressing the message to
  Compuserve.com for instance if their logon was 1427,16547 then
  your TO: line would be 1427.16547@COMPUSERVE.COM. Last time this
  came up there was much discussion over the length of the parts
  comprising the user id but I think you get the idea.

  Once again, Thanks Neil!

  Craig Todd
  Academic Computing Resources
  Wright State University
  Dayton, Ohio
  ctodd@desire.wright.edu
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 09:56:00 EST
From:         MINDLESS <89244@TAYLORU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: ascii codes
Comments: To: ADVISE-L@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu

The reference manual for Turbo Pascal (or any other borland turbo product)
has an excellent appendix with the ascii codes for all of the PC keys.

Steve Truesdale
89244@tayloru
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 23:47:36 -0400
From:         CHEW <gcs41079@ZACH.FIT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Compuserv
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To send mail to Compuserve, just send to the address followed by
@compuserve.com, eg to send to account 74000,1111 you would type
74000.1111@compuserve.com (note that the commas have been replaced by
the period).

Likewise, for someone on Compuserve to reply to you using Compuserve's
mail, he would have to type:

Send to (name or user-id): >INTERNET gcs41079@zach.fit.edu
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 08:12:00 +0000
From:         MAILMAN%AC%CSC@CSC.ISU.EDU
Subject:      Bitnet/Internet code of ethics
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Your message could not be delivered to:
EKSTROMC / CSC/AC
as they could not be found at the destination location.

It has been delivered to General DELIVERY on that location for the
HPDESK Administrator to attempt to forward it to the correct location.

This message was created on computer: HP3
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 23:40:15 -0500
From:         neil schier <schin@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Compuserv
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take off eh
i thought the question was prodigy since it has been asked so many times
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:29:38 -0500
From:         neil schier <schin@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Compuserv
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No sorry
Neil
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 92 14:25:00 EDT
From:         John Rogalski <U720044@RUTADMIN>
Subject:      FIP
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I suppose this is a long shot but does anyone out there have a
house to rent or info on a share on Fire Island (Pines) this
summer? I know I should have my arrangements made by now but....
                                        John Rogalski
                                        u720044@rutadmin.bitnet
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From: dqz9515@acf5.NYU.EDU (George Bush)
Subject: Europe-Info?
Organization: New York University
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 03:28:00 GMT

Hi! I am planing to go to Europe this summer for about one
month. I live in Manhattan in New York City. I am sure I will
go to UK, France, Italy, and German. I don't really know
what is the best deal to make up my time in Europe, I would
like any respond for helping me make this plan, if any body
want to know more about New York, Pls feel free to ask.
Please Email me directly, if possible.

Inter-net : zhao@acf14.nyu.edu
Phone     : (212)254-2116

Also if anybody want to go with me together, I would glad to
discuss the detail, my tentative departure time is 
about beging of June, any detail can be disscussed.

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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 92 11:32:31 EDT
From:         Doug Cutler <UNCDWC@UNCVM1>
Subject:      1-800-CALLWVA.
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     There have been many commercials on our TV channels here in North
Carolina for West Virginia.  They gave 1-800-CALLWVA as a number to call
for free info.  Well I called that number about a month ago, somebody
took my name and address but as yet I havn't received anything, anybody
else tried it?


  Doug. Cutler                       Office of Information Technology,
  VM Systems Programmer              University of North Carolina.
From: kweaver@hamlet.phyast.pitt.edu (Kathy Weaver)
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Subject: Portland, Oregon
Date: 17 Apr 92 00:50:45 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Anyone!

	I need some info. on Portland, Oregon concerning where to go,
places to see, people to see/meet, etc.  I am moving out there next year
from the Pittsburgh, PA area to enroll in a 4 year program at the National
College of Naturopathic Medicine.  Any info. will be appreciated.

					Thanks!

					Nature Woman
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From:         "Mary K. Becker" <MKBECK01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
Subject:      St. Augustine
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Acquisitions Assistant-Kornhauser Library
Phone: 588-5763
One thing I forgot to mention is the lighthouse.  It is at St. Augustine
Beach (over the drawbridge) and is very visible from the road.  BUT, you
can't go in it.  They have a museum in the lightkeeper's house that is
pretty interesting (they show a film, etc.) but very small.  Kids might
be disappointed if they want to see the lighthouse & then get there &
realize they can't go in it.  St. Augustine also has two (I think- I know
at least one) "tour trolleys". We didn't go on a tour, but we saw them
around town.  They are open-air, trolley type buses (like you might see in
a zoo, etc.).  They looked really neat, but the only time we could have
taken the tour, it was raining.  I know the "station" for one of them is
pretty close to the Ripley's Museum-which by the way, when we heard the
price of admission, we passed on (can't remember what it was, but it
was pretty outrageous, I thought).
Have fun!
Mary K.
MKBECK01@ULKYVM.BITNET
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 92 08:14:03 EDT
From:         rgtaylor@UALR.EDU
Subject:      RE: 1-800-CALLWVA.
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We went to New Mexico last summer.  I received a great book from
New Mexico, but I can't remember which tourist number I called to
get it.  I also called Santa Fe Tourism and received a great book
from there too.  When I say a book, I mean a soft cover book.
I had about 6 months to plan the vacation and I received the books
in plenty of time to plan.

Ranette
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 92 10:53:00 EDT
From:         KATIE@GENESEO
Subject:      Ocean Park, ME
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

My family (husband, 2 girls 4yrs & 11 mos.)  and I are planning a trip to
Ocean Park, ME in August.  It is neat Old Orchard, ME.  We plan to spend
alot of our time on the beach, but we need to plan for rainy days.  Any ideas
for restaurants, places to go, see?  We need mostly kid-oriented ideas since
we are not taking a babysitter.  We are really looking forward to our vacation
and would appreciate any suggestions.
                                      Thanks,
                                      Katie Infantino
                                      SUNY Geneseo
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