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From: mkwg9074@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (M. K. Weaver)
Subject: Re: Supidity of the Lambs !
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 06:15:38 GMT
Keywords: bots, are, lame.

axl@cheshire.oxy.edu (W.AXL ROSE) writes:

>>       	bfn, (why only now?), 

	because I usually come back... though at times it has been
	bfnbnf <bye for now but not forever> but this has some
	religious undertones.

>>	Monica
>I love you monica!
>-Eli
	
	I Hope this is platonic...my boyfriend is probablly 
	watching <waves to her boyfriend>

	bfn,
	Monica

-- 
"When you sit with a nice girl for two hours, you think it is only a minute.
But when you sit on a hot stove for a minute, you think it's two hours.
THAT'S RELATIVITY." (Albert Einstein)
                 "My name is Monica. Got a minute?"
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: dbarberi@mothra.syr.EDU (London W11)
Subject: Re: "Electropolis" wanted (and general internet info)
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 02:11:03 EST

In the past, (Anil Prasad) writes:
>I really need to get ahold of the essay "Electropolis" that was
>written about IRC. I understand it was posted to cs.bu.edu and
>krager.eff.org, but I can't seem to find it at either site. If you
>know where I can find a copy, I'll be eternalyl grateful.
 
   Electropolis is on many FTP sites, and one of them is
sugrfx.acs.syr.edu (128.230.24.1) /pub/vr/irc/papers.  Also in that
directory are logs from the Gulf War, the Russian Revolution, 1992 
USA election, and various other text files.

------=============-----------------------------------------------------------.
      David Barberi                                                           |
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 dbarberi@mailbox.syr.edu                                                     |
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: johnson1@cs.uwp.edu (Christina Johnson)
Subject: site needed
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:27:57 GMT


ok...  having now figured out the complexities of tin...  :)

I'm in need of a site to telnet to in order to access irc.  i've tried the
chatsburo and bradenville of which rdragon speaks.  To no avail.  I've
been IRCing for some time, but no longer have access to my previous
methods.  On IRC, I am Tllaya, so if anyone can help me, things would be
good.  
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: jardar@swix.ifi.unit.no (Jardar Eggesboe Abrahamsen)
Subject: Re: Bots, WarBots, Fun?
Organization: University of Trondheim, Norway
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 18:55:57 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.174316.6534@ugle.unit.no> gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:
>Jardar Eggesboe Abrahamsen (jardar@swix.ifi.unit.no) wrote:
>: In article <1992Nov16.124657.29387@ugle.unit.no> gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:
>: >/Gard - Say no to unattended disclaimers.
>: 
>:  :-P
>: 
>: Essutendall alskall udall assepall ejdall aarnall udall akkasnall om
>: orejball innjball aapall alt.irc.
>: 
>
>I guess what you MEANT was...
>
>Essutendall alskall udall assepall ejdall aarnall udall akkasnall om
>orejbrall innjdall aapall alt.irc.

Udall evhall ettrall ;-)

>And that message shouldn't have been in Swedish in the first place!

Einall elvall, aadall :-P

>
>/Gard
>


-- 
Jardar Eggesboe Abrahamsen         "Fanst i gotisk, finst i
jardar@swix.ifi.unit.no             gresk, restar i norroent."
                                             (Jardar Eggesboe Abrahamsen
                                                 i ein eksamen, V92)
Newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.irc.ircii
From: hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose)
Subject: Re: IRC Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
Organization: The Evil Fascist IRC Admins From Hell, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:48:42 GMT

I found my first mistake.

Helen> == Helen Trillian Rose <hrose@eff.org> 
 Helen> (5) Which server do I connect to?

[....]

 Helen>                 badger.ugcs.caltech.edu

This should be irc.caltech.edu (whatever the server is running on this
week, irc.caltech.edu will always point to it).

--Helen
--
Helen Trillian Rose             	<hrose@eff.org, hrose@kei.com>
Electronic Frontier Foundation   	email eff@eff.org for EFF Info
Kapor Enterprises, Inc.                 Flames to: 
Systems and Networks Administration	women-not-to-be-messed-with@eff.org
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: tjm@hrt213.brooks.af.mil (Tim Miller)
Subject: People who take VR too seriously...
Organization: AL/HRTI, Brooks AFB
Distribution: alt
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:47:41 GMT

	Here's the motd from csd.bu.edu of late:
-
- Server: csd.bu.edu
- Message of the Day
-
- If you do not connect to this server with a valid user@host
- you will be /kill'ed unless you have a good reason.
- 
- IRC OPERATOR WANTED on trial basis.
- send EMAIL resume (ASCII only) to irc-op@eff.org
- for more info: finger hrose@cs.bu.edu 
- or ftp to cs.bu.edu:irc/support/ircop
- Closing date: 1 December 1992 at Midnight EST.
- Interviews will commence online soon after. 
- 
- send any problems to hrose@cs.bu.edu
-
	And here's cs.bu.edu:/irc/support/ircop:

>Resumes: What I'm looking for: Well, think that you're going
>for a job and want to make a good impression! 

>Information I'd like to see: Your Full Name & email address. IRC
>Nick(s). Include any relevant experience you have answering questions
>(for instance, a student consultant job, working at a help desk, any
>other relevant previous experience etc). References accepted, also
>(email references preferred, of course :-).

>Just remember, all of this should be mailed to irc-op@eff.org --
>submissions elsewhere might be ignored. 

>Submission deadline: 1 December 1992 at midnight EST. 

>Mail any questions to hrose@eff.org

	Now, I (being an *ex* csd ircop) find this *intensely* amusing.
It's like IRC almost *means* something in the real world.  Resumes?  Get
real.  References?  Do they want to make sure that the new op won't run
around exploiting bugs to crash things?  If so, then ckd ought to lose
his op right now; I've *watched* him do that in the olden days.

	Relevant experience?  *snort*

-- Cerebus <tjm@hrt213.brooks.af.mil>
"Laughing and chortling and giggling uncontrollably at the thought of
 what an IRCop interview might be like..."
From: strat@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: A new (very simple) bot solution
Date: 17 Nov 1992 14:53:35 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

Dweiss@chiba.hughes.american.edu (Dan Weiss) writes:

>Ok.  Here it is (take a deep breath.)

>Make the IRC network only allow one login from each address.  

I have multiple accounts on multiple computers in multiple colleges of
this university.  I imagine most people do.

In short: Bzzt!  Next contestant

Stratocaster
(AKA StratMan, KublaKhan, RedBarch, BestNick, naMtartS, etc. etc.)
-- 
	   Steve Davis (I'm a student, not a spokesperson!)
      strat@cis.ksu.edu - Kansas State University - Manhattan KS
				   
There are no monks in my band.  There are no saints in this land. - RHCP
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl)
Subject: forking attack bots
Organization: Department of Astronomy, University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:08:19 GMT

In article <avalon.722014940@coombs> avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed) writes:

>Perhaps those of you who see these listless bots could email the admins
>of the servers they connect to and ask that they be K-lined so that
>normal users of IRC may use their server without any degradation in
>service.

Unfortunately, this kind of tactic doesn't work very well when there
are LOTS of open-client servers out there with admins that don't read
email. That's been the situation for several years now.

If someone is acting like a child, talk to their system administrator.
It's the only way. Posting lots of bogus articles to Usenet and
sending someone loads of junk email is not tolerated, so why should
making dozens of bots on IRC to harrass someone be tolerated?

>The next step in the flood race will be won by the next server release.

Actually, I don't believe that your next release will cope with 20
bots, or 200, flooding someone at the same time. Technical solutions
have their limits, and the jerks happen to be proceeding down the line
of attack which is most difficult to deal with.

Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: mrgreen@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (matthew green)
Subject: Re: Global Birthday Greetings
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:09:19 GMT

titus@coombs.anu.edu.au (titus chiu) writes:
>avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed) writes:
>>troy@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU (Troy Rollo) writes:
>>
>>>Oh yeah, real huge. It happens to be less than the bandwidth taken up by
>>>a single MODE command. Now, with a bot generating MODE commands willy-nilly,
>>>that bot is likely to waste far, far more bandwidth.
>>
>>There are more clients from *.edu servers/hosts at most any time of
>>day than there are servers in total.  Consider, there are at least 50
>>servers which match *.edu and one of those has (at times) had one tenth
>>of the total number of clients on IRC attached to it.

>i would have thought that a global matching $*.edu would just mean it uses
>the bandwidth of sending to all the servers in *.edu (assuming that client
>to server connections dont use much bandwidth at all which can be false
>at times) so generally, what troy said is correct.

Even so, it *then* has to be sent to every client connected to each of
these servers.  A MODE command is what

:nick!user@host MODE #channel <mode>

Depending on the <mode>, it really isn't that big.
For a msg its something like

:nick!user@host NOTICE <yournick> <text here>

If you can show me that the MODE command would be more than the NOTICE
<or PRIVMSG>, then I'll believe you.o

From LUSERS *.edu *.edu
-byron.u.washington.edu- There are 482 users and 175 invisible on 63 servers

Over 600 clients.  Thats for *.edu.   There are about 200 servers on the net.
I'll leave the maths to you.

..
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: wcsanil@superior.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad)
Subject: "Electropolis" wanted (and general internet info)
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:53:26 GMT

I really need to get ahold of the essay "Electropolis" that was
written about IRC. I understand it was posted to cs.bu.edu and
krager.eff.org, but I can't seem to find it at either site. If you
know where I can find a copy, I'll be eternalyl grateful.

Also, does anyone know where I can find out about the origins of
Internet itself, who started it etc..?

Thanks,

Anil Prasad
wcsanil@ccs.carleton.ca
From: scott@sfi.santafe.edu (Scott D. Yelich)
Subject: Re: forking attack bots
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 01:55:44 GMT
Organization: Santa Fe Institute
	<Dweiss-171192024120@chiba.hughes.american.edu>
	<avalon.722014940@coombs>
	<1992Nov17.170819.27384@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>

>   It's the only way. Posting lots of bogus articles to Usenet and
>   sending someone loads of junk email is not tolerated, so why should
>   making dozens of bots on IRC to harrass someone be tolerated?

Did you follow the latest jgd crap in alt.sources?  news.admin?

Why DO you bother with IRC anyway?
From: dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Doug McLaren)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Supidity of the Lambs !
Date: 22 Nov 92 19:09:10 GMT
Organization: Doug's House of Disco

In article <1ea59gINN5m4@manuel.anu.edu.au> titus@coombs.anu.edu.au (titus chiu) writes:

> ...  Of course, in reality, nickserv and noteserv cannot/does not get
>into a dead loop with another user/bot, compared to your bot which can,
>and that is the point that herm have tried to make, but of course, you
>don't want to listen to that, and want to remove nickserv and noteserv.

I think you missed the sarcasm in his post, but that's ok -- about par
for this newsgroups ...
Also, Nickserv *can* get into a dead loop with another bot.  True, it
may require that the other bot break protocol, but it certainly can be
done.

  Once you've overcome the MSG->NOTICE barrier (and I won't post any of the
many ways to do this ...)

   on -notice "Nickserv" /msg nickserv@service.de help

Would certainly make for some nice flooding ...

   Doug
   Say YES to alt.irc.flame !
-- 
----------------------- \  Confucius might have once said:
Doug McLaren,            \  If you pick up a starving dog and make him
DemoN on IRC              \  prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the
dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu  \  principal difference between a dog and a man. --
-------------------------- /  Mark Twain
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: rmn9458@rigel.tamu.edu (rebecca)
Subject: yes or no? (bot deopping)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:24:00 GMT

I have a question for the ircops and experienced irc users:
when there is a net-split, people on channels can be separated.
If someone creates a channel by that name while the split is 
occuring, they get automatic op status. (with me so far?)
Ok, the question is, when the two reconnect, is it or is it not right
for a bot on one to deop ops on the other?
[this bot is "permanently" in the channel to guard it and only makes certain
 people ops, so if the new op isnt on its list it deops
them immmediatly]
I understand its purpose (to prevent people from taking advantage of net-splits
and messing up the channel; they are possessive of their channel by the way)
but is it correct and is that grounds for being killed by an ircop?

*and i dont want to hear all the reasons bots should be banned read to me 
again*
 reply by email please: rmn9458@rigel.tamu.edu

thanks
rebecca
(mariem on irc)

Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: jont@cs.su.oz.au (Jonathon Earnshaw Tidswell)
Subject: Re: Avalog arrested....
Reply-To: jont@cs.su.oz.au (Jonathon Earnshaw Tidswell)
Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 11:09:00 GMT

In article <By3qE0.n41@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dms50304@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Darkman) wrote:
| How about someone just give us the real story on what happened?  I seem to get
Does any 1 person know the whole story ?
( I dont know it. )

| the impression that Avalon destroyed a few sites computer systems that he
| thought people were hacking into his system from and the method of destruction
| was a trapdoor in a server version he released.  Did I hit the nail on the
No, you missed the nail.
I dont know of any systems he destroyed (unless overloading machines running
irc servers which would have died without his effort is "killing" :)

| head or am I completely off base?  I also assume that he was arrested for this?
I believe there was no police involvement at all.
In fact I dont believe any missles were launched.
The article I saw was humour, however the author forgot the "necessary"
':-) For the humoured impaired' disclaimer.

| Someone care to comment on this?
Well it was rather funny where I sat, but maybe it was a situation comedy
- you had to be there. 
( real answer: More than I have ? I doubt it. )

Ernie
PS I HATE personality/ego clashes in IRC.
--
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Basser Dept. of Comp. Science    | Phone:  +61 2 692 4802
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: a_murphy@Turing.ORG (Andrew A. Murphy)
Subject: Re: Server list request !! 
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:56:20 GMT

In article <BxtFyp.53A@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> ksbeh@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Terence Beh) writes:
>
>Dear Netters ,
>
>	Could anyone (who is kind enough) please send me a list of server which 
>I can use .  Normally I am using the following servers :-
>
>***     0) jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca 6667
>***     1) irc.mit.edu 6667
>***     2) bode.uwaterloo.ca 6667 
>***     3) close.cs.columbia.edu 6667
>***     4) ug.cs.dal.ca 6667
>
>	
for a list of servers
get online irc from any server you know
(this will only give you servers currently connected online to net and
	exclude ones that are temporarily down for whatever reason)
set on a log
get ready for scroll
type /links *
you will get the complete list.. if you want just for your country 

type *.edu (for usa it'll give ye most of em)
*.fr for france...
etc..
*.<last section of your host id>

hope this helps
rdragon

-- 
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From: tom@bim.itc.univie.ac.at (Tom Kovar)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Ignorance is part of the Lamb.
Date: 17 Nov 1992 20:02:09 GMT
Organization: Inst.of Theor.Chemistry,Univ.of Vienna,Austria
NNTP-Posting-Host: bim.itc.univie.ac.at
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:
: In fact, I prefer not to ftp at all other than when I need something and I
: don't feel like programming it myself. Also, installing a functioning version
: of vi is not my job. I have tried to persuade the one who does this to compile
: tin on the samson and use emacs instead, but he just says that "something went
: wrong when I tried to compile it on samson, and it won't do any good to try it
: again."

  This statement is the best acknowledgement of all Ruben has written about
you ignorance towards learning to use software.
  It is not necessary to "compile in" any editor. Nearly all newer programmes
of this kind (news readers, mailers,...) ask the value of the environment
variable EDITOR and start the editor listed in it (complete programme path).
Only if this variable does not exist or does not point to any executable
file, the "compiled in" editor is started. So if you want to use your favourite
editor /usr/gardabr/jeg/er/en/dum/bruker, there is no hindrance. Btw - to find
this out, it is enough to scan through "man tin". A matter of 3 minutes.

  So long. Send your flames to no.dritt, v.s.g.
  Hilsen,
                                                                        Tom

Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: Dweiss@chiba.hughes.american.edu (Dan Weiss)
Subject: A new (very simple) bot solution
Followup-To: alt.irc
Organization: Chiba City
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:59:35 GMT

Ok.  Here it is (take a deep breath.)

Make the IRC network only allow one login from each address.  

Now, while I know there would still be bots and cyborgs, at least half of
them would disappear immediatley.

Bots with a legitimate value could always get thier own login (like
nicksrv).  

If anyone can give me one good reason why they need to be logged on to IRC
two or more times simultaniously, I would like to hear it.  

Right now, though, I can only believe that logging on to the IRC mulitple
times at the same time of day is just a selfish waste of network resources.

Say no to automated lamitude amplifiers.
-------------------------
Dan Weiss
Washington DC
Dweiss@chiba.hughes.american.edu
Dweiss@auvm.american.edu
Flammable@IRC
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: herm@acme.etsu.edu (Herman H. Fredriksson)
Subject: Re: Supidity of the Lambs ! (Services)
Keywords: bots, are, lame.
Reply-To: fascists@cbme.unsw.edu.au (SNUB HQ)
Organization: East Texas State University, Commerce, Texas, USA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 07:44:47 GMT

lcm1501@hertz.njit.edu (Lawrence C. Mc Abee) writes:
>titus@coombs.anu.edu.au (titus chiu) writes:
>> [..deleted..]
>	Speaking about wasting bandwidth, I would like to thank you Titus
> for taking so much care in not doing that yourself. That lovely wall message
> to all of *.edu about some idiots birthday really touched me, and was well
> worth the HUGE waste in bandwidth.

I think titus has learned his lesson. I feel sorry for him.. after all..
after that message he must have received:

    1.  at least 100 people saying "do I know you..??" 

    2.  at least 100 stupid moronic vanity ego extenders (bots) messaging
        (or noticing if their owners have an idea of the protocol) him 
        something like "-WeenieSrv- y() d00d, EyE d0|\|t UndErStAnD,
        `could you please wish ... happy birthday..', tRy Th1zz etc..."

    3.  At least 20 operators saying "You know you are a very bad boy
        for doing that"

And then finally after sitting thru 20 minutes of flood to find that 
someone had /kill'ed him for it :) As for the personal swipe on the guy whose
birthday is was, I bet you say "humbug" to christmas :P

>			Lawrence C Mc Abee.
>			(say NO to idiots)

#herm# say NO to unattended bots
-- 
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|  Herman H. Fredriksson                     Email: herm@nitha.etsu.edu  |
|  Things that make you go herm.....             herm@coombs.anu.edu.au  |
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: ksbeh@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Terence Beh)
Subject: Server list request !! 
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:49:36 GMT


Dear Netters ,

	Could anyone (who is kind enough) please send me a list of server which 
I can use .  Normally I am using the following servers :-

***     0) jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca 6667
***     1) irc.mit.edu 6667
***     2) bode.uwaterloo.ca 6667 
***     3) close.cs.columbia.edu 6667
***     4) ug.cs.dal.ca 6667

	





Sometimes , I can't connect to any of them , please tell me what is going on .
Don't know if this is server problem or something else.


Thanks !


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From: g8801935@cs.uow.edu.au (Andrew Kenneth Milton)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Supidity of the Lambs !
Keywords: bots, are, lame
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:37:51 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

herm@acme.etsu.edu (Herman H. Fredriksson) writes:

>herm
>(say NO to unattended bots)

Herm, you're aiming way too high, far too many syllables, start with...

say NO

then you can add the other words in later once they grasp this...
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Newsgroups: alt.irc