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From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Subject: Re: little lies...
Date: 26 Dec 92 23:02:59 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB

Faruk od Bosne (faruk@bnr.ca) writes:
>Therefore, the Macedonian Albanians will fight for a simple freedom, 
>when it comes.

Against whom would they fight?

Personally I pray that they will not have to or want to fight against
anyone.
-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
Jag gav en k{ck tjeck en check.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna:1019 soc.culture.croatia:269
From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Subject: Re: Serbian excuses
Date: 26 Dec 92 21:13:03 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB

Milan Stojanovic (stojanov@husc11.harvard.edu) writes:
>>So wasn't Jasenovac a POW camp too?
>
>No, it was not.  Were there any women and children in Manjaca, Erland?
>Were there any?

You cannot hide behind question about details, Milan. Serbs in Bosnia-
Hercegovina are repeating today what Ustasha did in WWII. What is
worse is that you are defending it.

>Answer my previous question, you ignorant Nazi imbecil.

No, I am not the nazi here. But you are trying well to be one.
-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
Jag gav en k{ck tjeck en check.
From: wickerhauser-victor@math.yale.edu (Victor Wickerhauser)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Subject: Re: GOD WILL DAMN THE SERBS
Date: 24 Dec 1992 01:14:27 -0500
Organization: Yale University Mathematics Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2155
NNTP-Posting-Host: golem.math.yale.edu

In article <Dec.23.16.31.16.1992.27580@andromeda.rutgers.edu> pshane@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Ana M. Shane) writes:
>If you want to stop the war - point to the real perpetrators, not to
>nations!

But what if a nation reelects the real perpetrators?

Victor
-- 
Prof. M. Victor Wickerhauser                      <victor@kirk.wustl.edu>
Department of Mathematics, Washington University, St. Louis, MO 63130 USA
Telephone:  USA(314)935-6771, USA(314)727-0749;     FAX: USA(314)727-4963
Sto se ljuckim trudom uzdignulo, Ljuckim znojem jopet se ponavlja. --Medo Pucic
From: pshane@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Ana M. Shane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Subject: Re: GOD WILL DAMN THE SERBS
Date: 24 Dec 92 06:37:33 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

wickerhauser-victor@math.yale.edu (Victor Wickerhauser) writes:

>In article <Dec.23.16.31.16.1992.27580@andromeda.rutgers.edu> pshane@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Ana M. Shane) writes:
>>If you want to stop the war - point to the real perpetrators, not to
>>nations!

>But what if a nation reelects the real perpetrators?

You call that an election? I call it a firm grip on power. 

>Victor
>-- 
>Prof. M. Victor Wickerhauser                      <victor@kirk.wustl.edu>
>Department of Mathematics, Washington University, St. Louis, MO 63130 USA
>Telephone:  USA(314)935-6771, USA(314)727-0749;     FAX: USA(314)727-4963
>Sto se ljuckim trudom uzdignulo, Ljuckim znojem jopet se ponavlja. --Medo Pucic

With hopes for

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       /   ___   / /  _______/  /   __  |        /  ____  /  /  _______/
      /   /  /  / /  /         /   /  | |       /  /   /_/  /  /
     /   /__/  / /  /___      /   /___| |      /  /        /  /___
    /   ______/ /   ___/     /   _____  |     /  /        /   ___/
   /   /       /   /        /   /     | |    /  /    __  /   /
  /   /       /   /_____   /   /      | |   /  /____/ / /   /_____
 /___/       /_________/  /___/       |_|  /_________/ /_________/

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ana M. Shane                               pshane@andromeda.rutgers.edu
From: minhaszt@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Subject: where do you stand milan?
Date: 30 Dec 92 21:50:44 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

hi everyone, and for those whom it is appropriate, salam alaikum,

i have been reading this net for some time now, and have posted on a few
occasions. i would like to ask milan one question, are you for, against, or
ambivalent to the the serbian massagre of bosnian muslims? please be clear and
unambiguous about your answer, i don't know if others are confused, but i sure
am.
sincerely
zafar minhas
ps if there are any bosnian muslims reading this net
please give me some mail, it is nice to get to know who you all are
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.croatia,soc.culture.bulgaria
From: deniz@mandolin.ctr.columbia.edu (Deniz Akkus)
Subject: Re: Faruk the Bosnian [Faruk Bosnaci]
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:55:10 GMT
X-Posted-From: mandolin.ctr.columbia.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

David,

You used to get quite upset at being called Davut Davudoglu.  Why call
Faruk by a Turkish name?  BTW, I don't know what they say in
Chemishgezek but the correct form is Bosnali and not Bosnaci.

regards,
Deniz Akkus deniz@ctr.columbia.edu




Xref: sparky soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna:1044 soc.culture.yugoslavia:10337
From: minhaszt@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna,soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Re: where do you stand milan?
Date: 31 Dec 92 18:30:02 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <1992Dec31.182822.2333@ucbeh.san.uc.edu>, minhaszt@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
> In article <1992Dec31.101746.18914@husc3.harvard.edu>, stojanov@husc11.harvard.edu (Milan Stojanovic) writes:
>> 
>> I am strongly against any massacres.   On all sides.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Milan
> 
> 
> alright, then if that is the case then there really is no place for the
> bickering. i am sure that all of us agree that "ethnic cleansing" is far from
> humanity. then let us now discuss ways in which we can solve the problem. i did
> a small thing on my part, i gathered signatures from over 500 individuals here
> at the university of cincinnati and faxed them to the un ambassadors of turkey,
> bosnia and the us. of course i never received a reply from anyone of them but
> we need to do something. i am willing to start a national campaign on this
> thing, milan and anyone else, instead of giving history lessons, are you
> willing to help me?
> 
> sincerely
> zafar minhas
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna,soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.croatia
From: malenovi@plains.NoDak.edu (Nikola Malenovic)
Subject: Re: HP Laser II* cyrilic font cartridges
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 01:11:26 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <1993Jan1.201932.4544@walter.bellcore.com> ddc@nyquist.bellcore.com (Daniel Chukurov 21324) writes:
>In article <C03FoH.1r2@me.utoronto.ca> arnsenad@me.utoronto.ca (Senad Arnautovic) writes:
>>malenovi@Agassiz.NoDak.Edu (Nik) writes:

>>>Postovani publikume,

>>>  nedavno sam imao priliku da razgovaram sa prijateljem iz Beograda
>>>koji je u mogucnosti da ponudi kertridze za HP printere pomocu kojih
>>>HP dobija mogucnost da 'pise cirilicom'. Razgovarajuci, saznao sam da
>>
>>... the rest deleted...
>>
>>Why is this garbage posted in s.c.bih when Cyrlic is not
>>Bosnian font. Go to s.c.serbia
>>Senad H. Arnautovic

oh? I forget - what is this news group s.c.bih? is it the group regarding
the political entity called Bosnia&Herzegovina or is it 'Muslim' or
'Muslim&Croat' newsgroup? I do remember thought people bragging about some
Serbs being on Muslim&Cro side in BiH? duh, it must just be me these days...

side note: you meant soc.culture.great.serbia, didn't you? :^)

>	Since there are a lot of Serbians in B-H, I feel that this is

actually I doubt there are any _Serbians_ on the territory of
ex-Soc.Rep.Bosna.i.Hercegovina. I am sure there are a lot of Serbs though.

yeah, FYI, 'Serbain' is a citizen of state of Serbia, but not an ethnic
Serb. (Albanian minority are for example Serbians, but they are not Serbs).
I doubt there are any non-ethnic Serbs and citizens of Serbia in BiH.
(native terms: Srbijanac vs. Srbin....)


>	a proper place for postings like this. I would also like to
>	bring up  another option for printing CYRILLIC, a 
>	$120.00 program GLASNOST CYRILLIC LIBRARY 2 by Cassidy
>	and Green. The fonts are just outstanding, they work on the
>	PC under MS Windows 3.1, and also support various MS DOS
>	programs like Word Perfect, MS Word for DOS, etc. Both ATM
>	and True Type fonts are included in the package. Various 
>	fonts can be mixed and used in the same document. Support for
>	different printers is limitted only by the printer drivers that
>	are included in MS Widows.

hm... I think I have a few MS Windows shareware fonts, that sure cost less
then 120$ :-) I can go find them somewhere if there is interest...

>Arnaute, majmune.... [deleted]...

uh, nemoj vredjati celu species molim te :^) :^)

>Regards,  DDC.

Nik
-- 
Nikola Malenovic
malenovi@agassiz.cas.und.nodak.edu
From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Subject: Serbian excuses
Date: 26 Dec 92 18:49:56 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB

Milan Stojanovic (stojanov@husc11.harvard.edu) writes:
>Manjaca is POW camp, so hardly a good example for what you tried to
>say.

So wasn't Jasenovac a POW camp too? Victor had a very good point
there. A very good one, in response to your usual dig-up-old-mud-
as-excuse-for-killing-people-today excuse. You are an awful bastard,
Milan Stojanovic.

>Foca also, it was taken after rather lengthy battle. Bijeljina,
>depends.  Allegedly Muslims tried to take over police station and all
>important buildings in the city.  Serb majority called Arkan for help.

Arkan shouldn't be in ex-Yugoslavia fighting wars. He should be
sitting in a Swedish prison. (Or a Belgian, or...)
-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
Jag gav en k{ck tjeck en check.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna,soc.culture.yugoslavia
From: stojanov@husc11.harvard.edu (Milan Stojanovic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Subject: Re: Serbian excuses
Date: 26 Dec 92 23:18:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Dec26.181855.18848
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Dec26.211303.27776@enea.se> sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog) writes:
>Milan Stojanovic (stojanov@husc11.harvard.edu) writes:
>>>So wasn't Jasenovac a POW camp too?
>>
>>No, it was not.  Were there any women and children in Manjaca, Erland?
>>Were there any?
>
>You cannot hide behind question about details, Milan. 

So answer is no, I guess.  Those are not details.  There is huge
difference if you kill whole village and if you kill those fighting
and let rest escape in front of battle ( or battles that you expect 
will happen - which is called ethnic cleansing - ). 
So Manjaca people were scared, but not dead, and there is a big difference
there. 

>Serbs in Bosnia-Hercegovina are repeating today what Ustasha did in WWII. 

No, that is what makes you ignorant.  Serbs might be guilty for many
atrocities, but there is a qualitative and quantitative difference here.
You sound like Tudjman.  Germans killed Jews, but nowadays Jews are 
commiting Judeo-nazism ( he quotes some Jewish professor here ) over 
Palestinians.   This is called trivialization and relativization of things.
Serbs in WWII were not given chance to leave or stay as loyal citisens.
They had only one way - to be killed.   


>-- 
>Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
>Jag gav en k{ck tjeck en check.

Milan N. Stojanovic
From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Subject: Re: Serbian excuses
Date: 28 Dec 92 11:33:51 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB

Milan Stojanovic (stojanov@husc11.harvard.edu) writes:
>Really?  Then talk to Izetbegovic about cantonization he signed and
>then backed away.  The same moment he accepts to fulfil what he
>signed, the war will stop.
>...
>Good, so you are giving reasons to Izetbegovic to hope and prolong
>suffering that he brought upon all people of ex-Bosna and Herzegovina.

Why the hell should we talk to Izetbegovic if we want you Serbs to
stop fighting? What hell are you? Small kids in a sandbox? Just
give a damn in what Izetbetgovic is doing. You are fighting a war 
and killing people and it has nothing to with civilized behaviour. 
And you are supposed to be consenting adults with responsibility 
for your own actions - although it's difficult to believe when you 
blame Izbetgovic for that you are killing people. You have the 
responsibility for the people you kill, you and no one else.
-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
Jag gav en k{ck tjeck en check.
From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna,soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Democracy
Date: 26 Dec 92 23:16:28 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.yugoslavia
Organization: Enea Data AB

Ana M. Shane (pshane@andromeda.rutgers.edu) writes:
>Another point: the secession of Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia&Herzegovina,
>and Macedonia, have in fact strengthened the regime of Milosevic, and the war
>has prolonged his and SPS's reign. Had the people of all of the republics
>united against criminal leadership, today we could have had a democratic
>country where no nation dominates, but all help each other in building up
>economy and society. This way, each of the republics is much worse off,
>much further from any democracy, prosperity, and just laws.

Here I have to object. Please describe in what ways you think Slovenia
if far away from any democracy and just laws. Yes, Slovenia is not as
prosperous as it used to be, but so is no Eastern European or ex-Soviet 
country today. And Slovenia seems to be doing better than most of them.

-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
Jag gav en k{ck tjeck en check.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.croatia,soc.culture.bulgaria
From: bill@cognet.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Subject: Piss OFF, Argic
Date: 23 Dec 92 19:55:47 GMT
Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program

Hey, just fuck off and go find your own group to argue this
bullshit.  There are lots of people dying in Bosnia right
now, which is why I'm reading the newsgroup, not to see
you rant about shit that happened 70 years ago on every
newsgroup you can find.

Get off your ass and do something for the world as it is now,
rather than pissing your anachronistic messages all across the
net.
-- 
{{{{ bill eldridge           310-206-3960                x                }}}}
{{{{ bill@cognet.ucla.edu    310-206-3987 fax           xxx              }}}}
{{{{ ~more, ~better, ~faster [80's motto]                x              }}}}
{{{{ ~hot, ~toxic, and ~shallow [90's motto]                              }}}}
From: pshane@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Ana M. Shane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Subject: Re: where do you stand milan?
Date: 1 Jan 93 09:59:24 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

minhaszt@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:

|>In article <1992Dec31.101746.18914@husc3.harvard.edu>, stojanov@husc11.harvard.edu (Milan Stojanovic) writes:
|>> 
|>> I am strongly against any massacres.   On all sides.
|>> 
|>> Sincerely,
|>> 
|>> Milan

Ana: So am I.

|>alright, then if that is the case then there really is no place for the
|>bickering. i am sure that all of us agree that "ethnic cleansing" is far from
|>humanity. then let us now discuss ways in which we can solve the problem. i did
|>a small thing on my part, i gathered signatures from over 500 individuals here
|>at the university of cincinnati and faxed them to the un ambassadors of turkey,
|>bosnia and the us. of course i never received a reply from anyone of them but
|>we need to do something. i am willing to start a national campaign on this
|>thing, milan and anyone else, instead of giving history lessons, are you
|>willing to help me?

I am willing to help you stop the war in ex-Yugoslavia. What do you propose
to be done?

|>sincerely
|>zafar minhas

Sincerely
Ana M. Shane
Xref: sparky soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna:1064 soc.culture.arabic:6179 talk.politics.mideast:24580
From: benali@alcor.concordia.ca ( ILYESS B. BDIRA )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna,soc.culture.arabic,talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Mr. Ghaly is the right man in the right place.
Date: 3 Jan 93 17:13:46 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna

hra2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Hibatur Rahman Ahmad) writes:


>The New York Times              Editorials              Sunday, December 20

>        After a year of savage slaughter, mass rapes, ethnic cleansing and
>        undoubted genocide, the world has responded with all the right words.
>        But the question remains, What will the world do?

I will tell you what the world has done:
the head of the the new United Nations tells the people of Sarayevo during
his last visit " Your situation is not so bad, I can think of more than ten
places that are worse than Bosnia.." I saw this  with my own eyes in the
French news (TF1) and it just made my day.
Mr. Ghaly (a christian from Egypt who was a member of an Egyptian government
who is trying now to make Egypt one of those ten places) is just the right
man for the right moment, and for the right world order..
Mr. Ghaly: opposes military intervention in Bosnia,
Mr: Ghaly: opposes helping Bosnians defend themselves, 
Mr: Ghaly: is concerned that the serbs would suffer (along with Muslims) if
           anybody helps the Bosnians defend their women from being raped, and
           their children from being slaughtered like sheep.
Mr: Ghaly: wants to make sure the negociations continue while the Muslims are
           in their weakest position, 

Russia (who killed millions of Muslims when it was busy building its Soviet
Union, killed 1.5 million Afghans, and most recently helped communists 
overthrow democratics forces in Tajikstan) still have the veto power in that
United Nations and is threatening a veto against any decision to inetervene
militarily to stop the Serbian onslaught on Muslims.

The world wanted to wait untill Bosnians are exterminated to act, but it seems
the technology they themselves created is not working in their favor (like
Telecommunication and T.V), Turkey, feeling domestic pressure is threatening
to intervene, and that is the key factor behind the recent moves to stop
the Serbian gains at their current level and legalize them in a treaty imposed
on the Muslims. If the Muslims accept, it will be another Palestine, and 
history will be written by the Serbs. Everybody will forget about the crimes
of war (after all you cannot prosecute thousands of Serbs, they are the ones
you are making "peace with after all).


When Ghaly went to Sarayevo he was greeted by "Help us or go home" 
I must admit that the Muslims of Bosnia are very courtious, they should just
have said "GO HOME, YOU BASTARD!"
From: stojanov@husc11.harvard.edu (Milan Stojanovic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Subject: Re: where do you stand milan?
Date: 31 Dec 92 15:17:45 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Dec30.215044.2320@ucbeh.san.uc.edu> minhaszt@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
>hi everyone, and for those whom it is appropriate, salam alaikum,
>
>i have been reading this net for some time now, and have posted on a few
>occasions. i would like to ask milan one question, are you for, against, or
>ambivalent to the the serbian massagre of bosnian muslims? please be clear and
>unambiguous about your answer, i don't know if others are confused, but i sure
>am.

I am strongly against any massacres.   On all sides.


>sincerely
>zafar minhas
>ps if there are any bosnian muslims reading this net
>please give me some mail, it is nice to get to know who you all are

Sincerely,

Milan
From: ddc@nyquist.bellcore.com (Daniel Chukurov 21324)
Subject: Re: HP Laser II* cyrilic font cartridges
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 93 20:19:32 GMT

In article <C03FoH.1r2@me.utoronto.ca> arnsenad@me.utoronto.ca (Senad Arnautovic) writes:
>malenovi@Agassiz.NoDak.Edu (Nik) writes:
>
>>Postovani publikume,
>
>>  nedavno sam imao priliku da razgovaram sa prijateljem iz Beograda
>>koji je u mogucnosti da ponudi kertridze za HP printere pomocu kojih
>>HP dobija mogucnost da 'pise cirilicom'. Razgovarajuci, saznao sam da
>
>... the rest deleted...
>
>Why is this garbage posted in s.c.bih when Cyrlic is not
>Bosnian font. Go to s.c.serbia
>
>Senad H. Arnautovic
>
	Since there are a lot of Serbians in B-H, I feel that this is
	a proper place for postings like this. I would also like to
	bring up  another option for printing CYRILLIC, a 
	$120.00 program GLASNOST CYRILLIC LIBRARY 2 by Cassidy
	and Green. The fonts are just outstanding, they work on the
	PC under MS Windows 3.1, and also support various MS DOS
	programs like Word Perfect, MS Word for DOS, etc. Both ATM
	and True Type fonts are included in the package. Various 
	fonts can be mixed and used in the same document. Support for
	different printers is limitted only by the printer drivers that
	are included in MS Widows.

	I have no connection the above company. I am just a happy user.

Arnaute, majmune your posting explains clearly why Serbians should have
their own state in the new B-H. And happy new year to you too.

Regards,  DDC.
From: bill@bcserv.wustl.edu (Eldridge (Bill))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Subject: Re: Serbian excuses
Date: 28 Dec 92 22:57:38 GMT
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bcserv.wustl.edu

sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog) writes:

>We will never understand what you are fighting for. (And even less
>if you insist on digging up old mud.) Never. And, frankly, we don't
>give a gamn. We think you Serbs(*) have gone complete bezerk, and
>lost whatever of civilazation you ever had in you. We don't care what
>you are fighting for. Whatever it is, the fighting is not justified.
>We don't want to hear more of your war apologies. We just want you to
>stop. We want peace.

Very well stated.
-- 
William M. Eldridge			bill@bcserv.wustl.edu
Biochemistry Department Box 8231	(314) 362-3436
Washington Univ. School of Medicine	(314) 362-7183 (fax)
660 S. Euclid, St. Louis, MO 63110
From: minhaszt@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Subject: Re: where do you stand milan?
Date: 31 Dec 92 18:28:22 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <1992Dec31.101746.18914@husc3.harvard.edu>, stojanov@husc11.harvard.edu (Milan Stojanovic) writes:
> 
> I am strongly against any massacres.   On all sides.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Milan


alright, then if that is the case then there really is no place for the
bickering. i am sure that all of us agree that "ethnic cleansing" is far from
humanity. then let us now discuss ways in which we can solve the problem. i did
a small thing on my part, i gathered signatures from over 500 individuals here
at the university of cincinnati and faxed them to the un ambassadors of turkey,
bosnia and the us. of course i never received a reply from anyone of them but
we need to do something. i am willing to start a national campaign on this
thing, milan and anyone else, instead of giving history lessons, are you
willing to help me?

sincerely
zafar minhas