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From: jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com (Joe Whittemore)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Wind Chill
Date: 13 Nov 92 18:23:54 GMT
Reply-To: jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com.UUCP (Joe Whittemore)
Organization: LES Engineering in Westfield, Ma.


                        W I N D   C H I L L    F A C T O R
            ( E Q U I V .   T E M P   O F   E X P O S E D   F L E S H )


    W    40|  1 | -7 |-15 |-22 |-29 |-36 |-45 |-54 |-62 |-69 |-76 |-87 |-94 |
    I     -+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----<
    N    35|  3 | -4 |-13 |-20 |-27 |-35 |-43 |-52 |-60 |-67 |-72 |-83 |-90 |
    D     -+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----<
         30|  5 | -2 |-11 |-18 |-25 |-33 |-41 |-49 |-56 |-63 |-70 |-78 |-87 |
    S     -+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----<
    P    25|  7 |  0 | -7 |-15 |-22 |-29 |-37 |-45 |-52 |-58 |-67 |-75 |-83 |
    E     -+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----<
    E    20| 12 |  3 | -4 | -9 |-17 |-24 |-32 |-40 |-46 |-52 |-60 |-68 |-76 |
    D     -+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----<
         15| 16 | 11 |  1 | -6 |-11 |-18 |-25 |-33 |-40 |-45 |-51 |-60 |-65 |
    M     -+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----<
    P    10| 21 | 16 |  9 |  2 | -2 | -9 |-15 |-22 |-27 |-31 |-38 |-45 |-52 |
    H     -+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----<
             35   30   25   20   15   10    5    0   -5  -10  -15  -20  -25  

                      A I R   T E M P E R A T U R E   ( deg. F )

--
Joe Whittemore - From where the Westfield
                      Meets the Westfield
                         By the Westfield
                            In Huntington (MA)

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From: Richard.S.Miyara@dartmouth.edu (Richard S. Miyara)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Fly Tying Starter Kit (sorta')
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:53:44 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

Recently there was a discussion about starting fly tying, and....

I received a flyer from Hunter's Angling Supplies in New Boston, NH,
yesterday.  One of their new products is a relatively low cost vise and
tool set which (from memory) includes vise, scissors, bobbin, bodkin,
hackle pliers, whip finisher, etc.  The set does not include any
materials, and I believe sold for about $80.

Hunter's is known for selling quality fly fishing an fly tying
equipment.  I have always been satisfied with everything I have
purchased from them.  I do not have their number here at work, but am
sure one could get it through information.  I think (but am not
certain) that they have an 800 number.

Good Luck

Rich Miyara
From: crenn@hpcuhc.cup.hp.com (Charley Renn)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 00:37:27 GMT
Subject: Re: Call for Fishing Reports from California
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing

Regarding Lake Langunitas (sp?), I had heard that they were having the
devil's own time with pelicans eating up the trophies.  I don't know if
they were able to remedy that problem.  It has been a year or two since
I've heard any new information.

Charley Renn, San Jose, CA
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: plheron@ecemw6.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron)
Subject: Re:  Spinning Reels with two drag modes
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:54:02 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.181400.4410@ALEX.ims.bellcore.com>,  fred@slayer.bellcore.com (Fred Anderson) writes:
|> 
|> I need some advice on what spinning reels I can use when 
|> drift fishing.
|> 
|> I would like a spinning reel which I could set the drag to 
|> act the same as above but be able to switch to a "real" drag
|> when a fish is on.
|> 
|> Does anyone know of any spinning reels and makes that provide
|> this function?

Fred, 

If you are looking for light tackle, I have a Shimano Aero Sidestab 
reel that has a rear-drag.  The drag can be adjusted (as usual) with 
a plastic knob/nut on the back of the shaft.  It also has a lever 
(Shimano calls it their fighting drag) back there which quickly 
switches the drag from very light, up to the maximum pre-set drag 
level.  Seems like this would work, although I'd be a little afraid 
to throw this switch if a fish was in the middle of a run...
The Shimano TX series (see BPS Catalog) also has this drag feature.


			-Pat.

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From: kevin@turbo.Columbia.NCR.COM (Kevin Ormerod)
Subject: Re: Fishing Lines
Organization: NCR Corp, E&M-Columbia, Columbia, SC
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 13:01:45 GMT

In article <1de3taINNa3o@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ecg@po.CWRU.Edu (Edward C. Goodwin) writes:
>
>	I've been using Trilene XL in my spinning outfit and have
>been reasonably happy with it but this guy showed me some German
>line that he got via mail order that rated 11# and was thinner than
>my 6# test.  I was impressed but, unfortunately, forgetful 'cause
>I forget the name of the stuff.  I think it started with "M".
>Does anyone out there have a clue as to the origin of this line ot
>some suggestions as to other lines?
>
Cabela's (800-237-4444) sells a West German brand called DAMYL TECTAN.
I've used it and it's pretty good line.  But you might want to check
into many of the brands available to you locally such as AN40, Magnathin,
UltraThin, and the like -- almost all the new lines on the market are
a lot thinner than XL or MT or Stren.  But don't forget abrasion
resistance -- the thicker lines do have their place.
From: Glass@unca.edu (Richard Glass)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Fishing near Fort Meyers/Naples
Date: 13 Nov 92 19:32:05 GMT
Organization: UNC at Asheville
X-Xxdate: Fri, 13 Nov 92 12:35:29 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7

Fishing near Fort Meyers/Naples
I have relatives that live in Naples, therefore I spend a lot of time
there since it is such
a nice place to visit.  Needless to say, I spend most of my time fishing.
 If you know how to
fish from a pier, and you don't mind fishing with a crowd, the Naples
Pier is an excellent
place to go.  This time of year, you can catch Spanish Mackerel, RedFish,
Snook, and a wide
variety of fish that typically hang out around a pier.  The best time to
catch the Spanish, is with
the incoming tide.  If you are lucky enough to be there at a time when
the tide is coming in
early in the morning, preferably at dawn, you have a real go chance to
hook up with some nice
mackerel.  Medium light spinning gear and spoons are a good bet for the
Spanish Mackerel.
The snook are always around the pier, and a lot of people try to catch
them, but
you won't be able to keep them unless the season is in.  The redfish are
usually there, but
there are size limitations.  The only reds that I caught were too big to
keep, they had to be
less than 32 inches long I believe.  When the sun gets things warmed up,
the pier gets very
crowded making it very difficult to fish, but as long as you stay in your
spot and are pretty
adept at casting, you shouldn't have any trouble.  There are several
inlets that you can drive
to that offer excellent fishing also, if you prefer a little more peace
and quiet.  The Naples
Pier is in Dowtown Naples, just ask for directions and you shouldn't have
any trouble finding
it.  If you want any further info, just send me a mail message and I'll
be glad to help out.
Good Luck!!
From: brodesky@td2cad.intel.com (Michael Brodesky)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Cheap hotel/motels in Monterey
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:14:25 GMT
Organization: intel corporation



Are there and good cheap hotel places to stay in. 
Also does anyone have the phone number for the ranger station at
Point lobos.



MichaeL
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From: f_harris@oz.plymouth.edu (Frank N. Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: lycra dive skins
Date: 13 Nov 92 23:27:45 GMT
Reply-To: f_harris@oz.plymouth.edu (Frank N. Harris)
Distribution: rec
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.

In article <bcrawfor.721451687@sol.UVic.CA> bcrawfor@sol.UVic.CA (Bryan Crawford) writes:
>In <1992Nov8.4232.9853@dosgate> "doug hook" <doug.hook@canrem.com> writes:
>
>
>>SL> I'm looking to buy some lycra dive skins to wear underneath my wetsuit and
>	<stuff deleted for brevity>
>>Doug
>>doug.hook@canrem.com
>
>How much extra warmth do these provide under a wetsuit?  I find that I get
>pretty cold in my wetsuit below 60' up here in the frozen north, but I can't
>afford a drysuit.  I would certainly consider spending $40 to keep a little
>warmer.
>
>bcrawfor@Sol.UVic.CA  -- member of the society for simple .signatures (SSS)

I purchased a lycra from Perf. Divers last year and even though I feel
that the quality is BAD (at best), it does make things easier with the wetsuit.
I only use it under my suit when the water gets "chilly" (45-60 degs.).
Even though it does not seem to have any thermal value, it does
seem to slow down the water flow within the suit a bit, thus, keeping
the "warmed-up" water in place longer. I believe that when I wore my
sweatpants and a t-shirt under my suit (when I used to be able to do
that B-)) I retained the same amount of "warmed-up" water BUT, getting
the suit OFF and ON was a different matter!!!!
I recently used a friends Polar-Tec (fleece lined) and I was
VVVEERRRYYY impressed. It was VERY warm and SUPER comfy. It also helps
to keep your wet suit snug (if that is'nt a problem already B-) ). As
a matter of a fact, I went diving today in Vermont with water temp. at
42deg. and after the initial shock,which was suppressed by pouring
WARM water into my suit after donning, I was 100% comfy for 53 minutes.
I WILL go get one of these but at $100.00 +/- I will wait to the end
of DRY SUIT season.  B-Q.

Hope it helps,

Frank Harris
PADI Master Diver
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From: carrie@wam.umd.edu (Carrie Lynn Leonard)
Subject: Re: Schools in Underwater/Marine Archaeology
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:41:04 GMT

In article <QpB=+4B@engin.umich.edu> caenmorr@bunsenhoneydew.engin.umich.edu (Ted W Morrison) writes:
>
>  Greetings!  I am posting this for a friend of mine who is interested
>in underwater or marine archaeology.  She would like to know of any
>good graduate schools to look into that could teach her.  So far, she
>has heard of Texas A&M and Indiana University, but there has to be other
>programs around.  Does anyone have any suggestions as to where she should
>look?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>
>  Ted Morrison
>
Try the University of Hawaii, Marine Options Program

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From: russell@kings.demon.co.uk (Russell Brown)
Subject: Re: US Divers vs Sherwood
Organization: Lady Lodge Systems
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 09:55:55 GMT

> warren@beach.hampton.sgi.com (Warren McLain) writes:
>
>>>Just one little data point from personal experience:  I've had a
>>>Conshelf SE2 freeze and free-flow on me whilst ice-diving.
>
>	Are you referring to the demand valve here ?  The first stage and
>second stage should have DRY air flowing through them. The first stage of
>an SE2 (was this a SUPREME, i.e. enviro-sealed ?) should not have frozen 
>under these conditions.

No it wasn't a SUPREME, just a regular SE2.  I believe/guess that it was
the second stage that froze (nothing ruptured from HP air) but can't
really say for sure as I was more interested in changing valves and
returning to the exit hole at the time!  By the time I'd got out,
settled down, turned off the tank valve and started to examine things,
the second stage was almost completely filled with ice.  I don't think
that the cylinder had been emptied (10 or 12l @150ish bar at 2-3 meters
depth) but can't swear that it wasn't - memories blur over the passing
years :-(

An hour or so later, on returning home, the second stage still had some
ice formed inside it but on fitting it to a tank seemed to work as
normal.  Learn from this what you will.  *I* learned that although the
Conshelf SE2 was a very nice regulator, I'd rather pay the extra cash
and use Poseidon's for *my* diving.

Regards,
        Russell
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From: lls@kings.demon.co.uk (Lady Lodge Systems)
Subject: Re: Info on wreck divers
Organization: Lady Lodge Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 11:56:39 GMT

In article <1992Nov3.141421.4617@bb1t.monsanto.com> tjfeue@bb1t.monsanto.com writes:
>In article <1992Oct29.192021.25138@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, mvm@cbnewsb.cb.att.com 
>(michael.v.murphy) writes:
>> How are most of the wrecks that you folks dive located in the first place? 
>
>Various ways.  Some were actually seen sinking by another ship (often
>the one that it collided with) and hence, a navigational fix could be
>obtained or seen from shore as they went down.  Others are found by 
>lengthy searchs, usually starting in libraries and archives.

I *knew* there was some advantage to UK diving! OK, so we have nasty tides,
cold water, 'orrible weather, low vis, no pretty coral reefs and expensive
equipment.

But what we DO have is a coastline littered with the wreckage of centuries
of seafaring activity and the results of two world wars fought on our
doorstep. Just look at a chart of UK coastal waters and you will see
zillions of wrecks marked - Luvverly.

BTW - we also have a department of the Royal Navy who's job, amoungst
other things, is to maintain records of wrecks. One can, for a small
fee, obtain information on specific wrecks or wrecks within specified
areas and if you provide them with additional information or fixes you
get a credit against your next use of their database. Perhaps the
US Navy has something similar?

-- 
Regards,
        Russell
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From: wall@hel4.brl.mil
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: US Divers vs Sherwood
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:58:18 GMT
Organization: U.S. Army Human Engineering Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <100645@bu.edu> cigliano@bu-bio.bu.edu (John Cigliano) writes:
>I have been looking at regulators and have narrowed my choice to either
>the US Divers SEA2 or the Sherwood Oasis. Most of my diving will be cold
>water (S. Cal and New England). I would appreciate any comments on the pros
>and cons of each and any other suggestions.

I sure wouldn't use the Sherwood Oasis for cold water diving.  AI f you know
your going to be doing cold water diving buy the Blizzard.  The new Blizzard
has the same first stage as the Maximus and it won't freeze up as easily.
I bought one last spring and I love it.  It is easy breathing and reasonably
priced.

Jeff Wall
wall@hel4.brl.mil
From: pltjha@vtt.fi (Juha Hakulinen)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Any infomation from Cancun and Cozumel
Date: 12 Nov 1992 12:01:51 GMT
Organization: Technical Research Centre of Finland
NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.188.101.114

I need information from Cancun and Conzumel at december. All comments are 
wellcome. 

Thanks 
      Juha.Hakulinen@vtt.fi
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From: pstonge@trentu.ca (CMDR P.D. Keener)
Subject: Ice Ice Baby
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Trent University Computer Services Department
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 17:32:00 GMT

G'day!  Here's a call to all of you frosties out there - the brave souls 
for whom diving in the temperates goes on year 'round, despite the 'hard 
water' problems encountered from freeze over.  I'm looking to get some info 
on a good cold water reg for lots 'o' ice diving this winter.  I've seen 
the ads for Dacor's and Sherwood's latest offerings (Extreme Ice and 
Blizzard, respecively), but that's about all I know about ice diving regs.  
My Advanced text outlines some of the problems using 'normal' regs in this 
environment, so I thought that I'd ask those people who do it on a regular 
basis.  Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

P.S. Anybody out there interested in entering the great Ice Floe Race up
Peterborough way this spring?

Pete St. Onge, 3rd yr ERS Trent University, Peterborough ONT Canada
"Tanks a million, a million tanks to you..."
From: billp@sco.COM (Jerque Clumsoe)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: Helmet-mounted dive lights
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 16:21:34 GMT
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.

In article <7833@transfer.stratus.com> gd@blublaze.sw.stratus.com (Greg Dawe) writes:
>
>I'd like hear from any net.divers who have experience either making a light
>helmet, and who've used them (home-made or store-bought).  You can reply on
>the net, or directly to me (use the address in my signature, not the address
>from which I've posted, please).  Also, please note, that attaching one of
>those tiny lights that you can get for your mask straps is not an option
>here because I wear my mask strap inside my hood.  Thanks in advance.

Hi Greg,

	You might consider another option. I believe Ikelite make
a regulator light that's more compact than a helmet light. The
light attaches to the hose just to the right of the regulator. 
The whole unit is pretty small since the battery pack sits behind
your head and more or less attached to your tank. It would just
like a helmet light in that where you look is where the light shines,
but with nothing sticking out and nicely integrated. In any case,
you might take a look at it for ideas on making a helmet light if
you're set on that idea.


-mr.billp
 NAUI #11211
 billp@sco.com


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From: craig@cattnts.canada.ncr.com (Craig Campbell)
Subject: Re: Filling Cylinders with Nitrox.
Organization: AT&T / NCR Canada Ltd., Toronto, Canada
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:10:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.054757.3583@panix.com> fhd@panix.com (Frank Deutschmann) writes:

>Currently, NITROX is in the hot seat: until it becomes accepted diving
>practice, it must maintain a virtually pristine safety record
>(especially since the chief selling point is that it's safer!).  Until
>trully accepted, homebrew probably should not be pushed in such an
>open forum, and certainly how-to details should not be discussed with
>complete novices.  While it may be argued that someone really intent
>on diving homebrew NITROX will just go and work out the problems on
>their own, putting themselves at much greater risk than if someone
>told them what to do, I think that, as a community, we should point
>this person to an organized program, rather than give them raw
>information.  This serves our [the community's] purpose better than
>giving out how-to info: 1) we prevent the novice from marring our
>safety record, 2) we promote an image of organization and community.
>This also servers the novice's purpose in that 1) they don't get hurt,
>2) they get to meet other like-minded people, and begin steps to cause
>some pro-NITROX pressure in their area.

On this point I disagree.  If a diver wishes to know about Nitrox, then
we should provide what information we can.  This information must (and does
in virtually every post I've seen) include a recommendation to get Nitrox
training, and to learn how to dive Nitrox safely.  To make Nitrox a 'secret'
or 'in' thing, with the interested individual belonging to the 'out'
group, will I believe, increase the odds of an uneducated and untrained
nitrox diver getting hurt.  Or rephrased, following the course you recommend
will, I believe, lead to exactly what you want to avoid.

I do not know most of the divers who post here, and have not dove with
them.  I am not qualified to judge anothers abilities, except from the
context of their post (which could be an unreliable indicator for several
reasons).  I have not given specific details about how to mix nitrox,
but what I have left out could certainly be figured out by a motivated diver.
Also, I would recommend any diver misinterpreting my ramblings as a 
replacement for qualified training and experience to seek professional help.
:-)

I do not believe that any diver on the net has attempted to give technical
diving instruction over the net.  I don't think it can be done safely.
A pilot could tell me all I asked about how to fly, via the net.  Would I
then feel comfortable taking a plane out for a solo spin?  Not bloody
likely.

We should give credit that if someone has the intelligence to ask the question,
then perhaps they have the intelligence to handle the answer.  (But I preach..)

>-frank
>(fhd@panix.com)

Later,

craig

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From: billp@sco.COM (Jerque Clumsoe)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: Diving after flying
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 16:44:52 GMT
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.

In article <Bx60ux.IKr@inews.Intel.COM> brodesky@td2cad.intel.com (Michael Brodesky) writes:
>
>
>	I was wondering what the suggested times were before diving
>after taking a short flight.     
>

MichaeL,

	It would depend on how long of a flight, depending whether the
aircraft was pressurized to what altitude, etc. etc. But, 24 hours would
cover all bets. You could probably get away with 12 hours with reasonable
safety, but I always wait a day after traveling. If you could convince
your pilot to stay close to sea level, you could probably just hop in.
The problem is changing pressure with any significance. It just takes
a while for our bodies to catch up.

-mr.billp
 NAUI #11211
 billp@sco.com 


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From: "doug hook" <doug.hook@canrem.com>
Subject: lycra dive skins
Reply-To: "doug hook" <doug.hook@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 8 Nov 92 21:17:45 EST


SL> I'm looking to buy some lycra dive skins to wear underneath my wetsuit and
  > to use alone for warm water diving (not in CA of course!). I'm considering
  > mail ordering the lycra skins from Perfomance Diver which has the best
  > price ($37.95-42.95. Has anyone had experience ordering from Performance
  > or with lycra skins? I'm familar with lycra because most of my biking cloth
  > are made of the material but I'm unfamilar in the diving context.

While I have not bought from Performance Diver, I have had good luck
with the skins that Sport Europa sells. They to are 39.95. They make
getting into the wetsuit a LOT faster and easier. We also use the lycra
gloves from Sport Europa to make the neoprene gloves less work to get
in and out of. Their number is 1-800-327-7031.

Doug
doug.hook@canrem.com

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From: mjdb@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MATTHEW JAY DRAUD)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Mexico and Belize
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:46:56 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Anyone interested in snorkeling and diving in Mexico and Belize? June 1-10,
1993. $1250 complete. Call (215) 758-5561
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