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From: hank@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: DVI2DVI
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:02:21 GMT

In article <4193.109.uupcb@ssr.com>, pierre.darmon%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Pierre Darmon)  writes:
> To: all
> Reply-To: acc1bbs!pierre.darmon@ssr.com
> 
> I have obtained DVI2DVI version 0.8b with an executable dated 2/20/89.
> Unfortunately, the documentation is in German and therefore useless to
> me. In addition the documentation is provided as a .DVI file using fonts
> I do not have.
> 
> The examples given by running DVI2DVI with no arguments are too succint
> and I don't quite understand the syntax.

Isn't this a fast dvidvi for MSDOS by 16-1-1989 Peter Sawatzki?  (dvidvi
is a program by Rokicki, author of dvips, for selecting pages, 2-up, etc.).

If so, then I suggest that you get dvidvi.zip from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu in 
pub/os2/all/emtex/utils/.  This is an OS/2 1.x--2.0 and MSDOS port, but the
sources are easy to compile for other machines. I did the port on ftp-os2.
There are some problems with Microsoft C (the docs on this appear to be
incorrect) and the source code contains an error (see the readme). 
If you do not have ftp capability, send me email.

-- 
--Darrel Hankerson hank@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: anselmo@cumesb.mech.columbia.edu (Andrew P. Anselmo)
Subject: making boxes around a figure, but using \vspace{3.0in} etc...
Organization: Columbia University Department of Mechanical Engineering
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:55:29 GMT
X-Posted-From: cumesb.mech.columbia.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Hi netland.  I hope this isn't an FAQ, but I saw something posted about this
by Tom Sheffler at CMU using his style file called 'bigbox' (Thanks, Tom).
It puts a big box around a figure; to use it, I do this:

\begin{figure}
\begin{bigbox}
\vspace{3.0in}
\end{bigbox}
\caption{\label{fig:c} Short caption.}
\end{figure}


This way, in my final output, I can get a box of 3 inches high to give
me a visual indication of picture size. 

The questions is this- is there an even simpler way to do this?  Like
by using  \fbox?  I tried \fbox{\vspace{3.0in}}, but all I got was a small
box...

-A.
-- 
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	      Thermal Science Research Laboratory (236A Mudd) 
   220 SW Mudd Building 212-854-2965 / anselmo@cumesb.mech.columbia.edu
From: trivedi@yukawa.uchicago.edu (Anil Trivedi)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: problem with greek letter hi
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:49:04 GMT
Organization: Enrico Fermi Institute, University of Chicago

knappen@obelix.kph.Uni-Mainz.DE writes:
oliveria@caen.engin.umich.edu (Roque Donizete de Oliveira) writes:
 >>I wondered why the symbol chi appears so small and shifted down ?

 > you can use a box construction to raise it. If I remember...TeXsis has 
 > raised chi by this procedure.

Yes, TeXsis raises \chi as well as \zeta by 2 points (which looks fine
to me but you may wish to adjust).

You can define

	\def\mychi{{\raise2pt\hbox{$\chi$}}

and use \mychi instead of \chi.


Alternatively, if you want to be able to say \chi but have it come
out raised, use:

  \let\oldchi=\chi
  \def\mychi{{\raise2pt\hbox{$\oldchi$}}}
  \let\chi=\mychi

-----
From: kjones@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (Kent Jones - EECS)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: *PROPOSAL*
Summary: Alternative to splitting comp.text.tex....
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:15:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Oct9.191504.19373
Organization: Washington State University!

PROPOSAL: 
How about doing for the tex group like other large groups are doing.
This would  hopefully keep everyone happy:

1. Post a FAQ frequently that describes how to use a kill file. 
   Post a list of prefixes frequently also.

2. Whenever someone posts, they include one of the following prefixes
   in the subject line. This will allow people to use their kill files
   to weed out what they dont want to read. Here are some examples:

	Subject: TEX: How Do I write a TEX macro?
	Subject: TEX: TAN: Bill could you post your message again?
	Subject: LATEX: How Do I include ps in my LATEX document?
	Subject: TEXSYS: How Do I install TEX on my system?
	Subject: LATEXSYS: How Do I install LATEX on my system?

3. The prefixes could be chosen by a consensus of the group. This would
   allow people who want to see everything to see it and those who dont
   to selectively kill what they dont want to see.

Kent-
From: tlm@iastate.edu (Dr. T.L. Marchioro II)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: speed of tex on various workstations?
Keywords: benchmarks, tex
Date: 16 Oct 92 05:32:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: scl1.tlm.719213556
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

In <1992Oct16.040152.24115@sophia.smith.edu> jfieber@sophia.smith.edu (John Fieber) writes:

>So what shall this new "real-world" benchmark be called?  

>TeXs?  TeXmarks?  TeXstones?  ...

>Benchmarks are interesting but when it really comes down to it,
>how fast does the machine do what you want it to do?  If you use
>TeX a lot, this could be a very valuable benchmark....

Actually, I'm not completely sure, but isn't TeX one of the programs which
is used in the Specmark measure of workstation speed?

Tom
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: asnd@reg.triumf.ca (Donald Arseneau)
Subject: Re: LATEX CHANGES ITS MIND MID-DOCUMENT!!
Summary: Avoid magic dimensions.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:39:00 GMT

In article <6OCT199220455833@erich.triumf.ca>, I write...
>In article <1992Oct6.232911.3219@athena.mit.edu>, lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones Smith) writes...
>> 
>>Observe that in the following easy to LaTeX document, the defined symbols are  
>>first printed out okay, and then totally messed up!  
>>\def\gl{\mathrel{\vcenter{\hbox{$>$}\kern-9pt\hbox{$<$}}}}
>>\def\lg{\mathrel{\vcenter{\hbox{$<$}\kern-9pt\hbox{$>$}}}}
> 
>\def is not a LaTeX command, and should not be used; use \newcommand.
>instead.  \lg *IS* a LaTeX command and should *NOT* be redefined; 
>\newcommand protects you against this.

Well, I actually ran LaTeX in the input file, and the problem with appearence
was not from \def vs \newcommand.  It is from the definitions of \gl and
\lg using the magic length 9pt.  This may work for a particular baselineskip,
but not for any other.  A redefinition in the spirit of the original is

{\mathrel{\vcenter{\hbox{$>$}\nointerlineskip \kern-.2ex\hbox{$<$}}}}
                                                    ^^
                   .2 is just a wild guess.  Choose some number of ex
                   that looks good.

I apparently forgot to mention the best solution:  use the fonts for
amsLaTex.

Donald
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: Tim Larkin <tsl1@cornell.edu>
Subject: Virtual Font Driver for Mac
X-Xxdate: Fri, 9 Oct 92 15: 51:58 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: tsl1@cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:44:22 GMT

Does anyone know if there is a DVI to PS driver that runs on the Mac and 
that understands Virtual Fonts. I prefer a PD program, but I would also 
consider a $$ program.

Thanks.

Tim Larkin
Federal Nutrition Laboratory
Tower Road
Ithaca, New York
tsl1@cornell.edu
607-255-7008
From: Marilyn Davis <madavis@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: TeX executable for Unix
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 15:37:01 PDT
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List


I have never used TeX but I've heard such good things about it.

I am trying to find TeX for my Unix/386 running an Okidata OL400 which
is HP Laser II compatible.

Someone said that we need 150 Meg for TeX!  That's not true, is it?

Is the source in Pascal?  Do I then need a Pascal compiler too?

Marilyn Davis
madavis@igc.org
From: gml4410@ggr.co.uk (Lack Mr G M)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Anyone know of such a printer?
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 11:38:59 BST
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

     This  isn't  really  a  TeX  query,  but it is about printers so it
seemed like a good place to start.


     I  have  some  colleagues  who  wondered  whether  anyone knew of a
printer which could print *directly* into *bound* A4  notebooks.   These
notebooks  *must*  be  bound for various regulatory reasons and so can't
have bits pasted into them - only direct printing into them would do.



-------------------------- Gordon Lack ----------------------------------
The contents of this message *may* reflect my personal opinion.  They are
*not* intended to reflect those of my employer, or anyone else."
From: rda@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Robert Dale)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: BNF for LaTeX?
Date: 11 Oct 92 14:56:51 GMT
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK

Anyone out there got a BNF definition for LaTeX source files, or know
where I'd find one?

R
--------
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		   Fax:   +44 31 650 4587	| Centre for Cognitive Science
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Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: khurram@ecr.mu.oz.au (Khurram MUHAMMAD)
Subject: Captions in LaTex
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 00:03:06 GMT

Hi there!

I was wondering if anyone knows how to center captions below figures.
If the caption is on a single line, it can be centered. However,
if it takes more than 1 line, the second line is left justified.
I want to have the top and bottom line of approx. the same size
and both centered. But it just wouldn't work in \caption{???}.

For 1.5 line spacing in document (=> in caption), how is it possible
to convert caption to SINGLE line spacing rather than have the 1.5 spacing?
I have tried the "renewcommand" before and after the "begin{figure}"
yet this doesn't work.

Does anyone have any idea(s)? It would be really appreciated.

Thanx.

-Khurram

(P.S.: I need the caption because I want to reference the Figures
automatically. Moreover, I wan't the list of figures to be
generated by LaTex.}

Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: acar@ee.umr.edu
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: What happened to ``byron.u.washington.edu''?
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:36:21 GMT
Reply-To: acar@ee.umr.edu
Organization: Univ. of Missouri-Rolla

-> Well I have what is probably a crazy idea, but what the hell,
-> nothing ventured nothing gained.  First let me say that I am one
-> of the "guilty" ones---I bought a Unix TeX tape years ago and
-> since have been a free-loader.  And I'll add that "byron" and
-> especially Elisabeth have been absolutely suberb in the way they
-> have provide me (us?) service.
-> 
-> So, maybe it is time to heed the call of a freind in need.  I
-> suggest that we all stop discussing the problem and do something
-> about it.  How much money does the Unix TeX project need to keep
-> running ftp service?  If those of us who are interested each send
-> a contribution, whether it be $5 $10 $25 $50 or $500 dollars, the
-> need can hopefully be met in short order.  It would probably help
-> if Univ. of Wash. could set up a credit card (MC/VISA/AmEx)
-> acceptance to make sending donations via E-Mail possible.
-> 
-> I'll start the ball rolling and will pledge 25 Pounds.

I think this is a great idea, I will also pledge. However it is not the
solution (unless there is a regular pledge drive). I think a long term
solution is to dedicate some portion of the TeX Users Group membership
fee for this purpose. Is there any way to get the opinion of the board
on this issue?

******************************************************************
L. Acar				| acar@ee.umr.edu
Univ. of Missouri-Rolla		| 
******************************************************************
Xref: sparky comp.text.tex:12030 comp.specification.z:438
From: collberg@dna.lth.se (Christian S. Collberg)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.specification.z
Subject: Better fuzz semantic brackets?
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:02:05 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Lund University

I'm using fuzz.sty at 11 pts and find that the semantic brackets (used for
the bag construct in Z) are way too skinny, and come out like a big blob
on the printer. Does anyone have a better metafont description of these
kinds of brackets than oxsy.mf?

Thanks,
Christian






-- 
Christian.Collberg@dna.lth.se
Department of Computer Science, Lund University, BOX 118, S-221 00 LUND, Sweden
Xref: sparky comp.text.tex:12017 comp.text.frame:3092
From: hank@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: LaTeX to MS Word, to MacWrite, etc (translators in general)
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 01:44:59 GMT

In article <LMS.92Oct10192818@rle-vlsi.mit.edu>, lms@rle-vlsi.mit.edu (Luis Miguel Silveira) writes:
> I am tring to find out what is out there in terms of "translators".  I
> would like to know/get translators

You need to get Chen's supplement, recently posted to this group. There is
one piece of conversion software which may not have reached his list.
Michael A. Covington (mcovingt@athena.cs.uga.edu) recently announced
an update to wp2latex (WordPerfect-to-LaTeX) by R. Houtepen. It compiled
easily using MSC 6.00A for OS/2 and MSDOS.

Mr Covington mentioned that Houtepen will be updating wp2latex.

--darrel hankerson hank@ducvax.auburn.edu
From: borchers@nmt.edu (Brian Borchers)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: TeX/LaTeX FAQ
Date: 14 Oct 92 15:44:16 GMT
Organization: New Mexico Tech

Is the FAQ available via FTP?  Our site doesn't keep articles around
long enough for me to have found a copy...
From: munson@acacia.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Ethan V. Munson)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Changes to ucthesis.sty
Date: 16 Oct 1992 15:49:38 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: acacia.cs.berkeley.edu

I need to distribute changes to the archive versions of ucthesis.sty.
How do I do this?

The changes are:

1) The 10pt option actually selected 11pt (also the default).  It was
	not possible to make a 10pt document.  This is fixed by the
	following change:

60c60
< \@namedef{ds@10pt}{\def\@ptsize{0}} % 10pt option reads in uct10.sty
---
> \@namedef{ds@10pt}{\def\@ptsize{1}} % 10pt option reads in uct11.sty

2) The "draft" optional mode did not work because \ssp was not defined
	at the point where \@options was invoked.  This is fixed by
	moving the invocation of \@options to the point immediately
	after the definition of \ssp and \dsp.

I can send or ftp a corrected ucthesis.sty to any location, but am not
sure what the correct procedure is.

Ethan Munson
munson@cs.berkeley.edu
UCB CS TeX Maintainer

Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: les@IDA.LiU.SE (Lennart Staflin)
Subject: Re: Weird error in TeX. Plese HELP.
Organization: CIS Dept, University of Linkoping, Sweden
Distribution: comp.text.tex,fj.comp.texhax
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:59:26 GMT

>>>>> On 14 Oct 92 08:47:26 GMT, masroor@human.ai.kyushu-u.ac.jp
>>>>> (Muhammad Masroor Ali) said:

Muhammad> -----  Case 2, Error occurs, log file follows ----

Muhammad> \def\A{
Muhammad> 	\begingroup
Muhammad> 	\catcode`\^^M = \active%
Muhammad> 	\def\B##1^^M{% Comment character used, since ^^M is active

No it is not.  Not until the macro \A is actually executed.  And as ^M
is normally end-of-line character, what is left on the line will be
ignored (right?).

Muhammad> 		}%
  
This ends the definition of \A.

Muhammad> 	\def\C##1{ }%

You are no longer inside a definition, so ## will not be expanded to
#.

--  Lennart Staflin  <les@ida.liu.se>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: bt@irfu.se (Bo Thide')
Subject: Re: speed of tex on various workstations?
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:24:51 GMT
Organization: Swedish Institute of Space Physics, Uppsala, Sweden

In article <1992Oct14.014829.10438@CS.ORST.EDU> @prism.cs.orst.edu writes:
>In <JIM.DAVIES.92Oct12102727@pierrot.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Jim.Davies@comlab.ox.ac.uk (A Wooden Fish on Wheels) writes:
>
>>A few seconds here or there in the time taken to TeX a document isn't that
>>important: a lot depends upon the speed and convenience of the
>>edit-TeX-preview-edit cycle (or the edit-TeX-dvips-preview-edit cycle).
>
>  Try doing a large document on a last-generation workstation.  I don't care
>how convenient your edit-TeX-preview cycle is if it takes 10 seconds to TeX
>one page, so I argue that the speed to TeX a document is an important part
>of the convenience.  Here are my results for my "TeX benchmark" which
>consists of running TeX on the TeXbook (494 pages).
>
>machine   Man     Model            time     pages/second
>--------------------------------------------------------
>crystal2  Sun     Sparc 10/30        63.9     7.73
>fire      HP      9000/710           87.0     5.68
>agate     HP      9000/705          126.3     3.91
>russia    Sun     Sparc 2           135.2     3.65
>energy    Sun     Sparc 1+          216.6     2.28
>solar     Sun     Sparc 1           262.0     1.89
>storm     Sequent Symmetry          527.8     0.936
>mist      Sequent Balance          2735.4     0.181
>
>--
>Dana Jacobsen                       I that wes in heill and gledness
>jacobsd@cs.orst.edu                   am trublit now with gret sikness
>jacobsd@solar.cor2.epa.gov              and feblit with infirmetie
>Computer Sciences Corporation             Timor mortis conturbat me.


abba      HP      9000/730           42.4    11.65
hybrid    HP      9000/720           58.6     8.43


Bo
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From: cheewai@uxmail.ust.hk (Yeung Chee Wai)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: NFSS for SliTeX?
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:32:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: uxmail.1992Oct8.133209.872
Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology

In article <19899@ector.cs.purdue.edu> knapp@cs.purdue.EDU (Edgar Knapp) writes:
>I converted recently to the NFSS and AMSLaTeX which involved (among
>other things) substituting lfonts.new for lfonts.tex. I would like to
>use all the new features in SliTeX as well as LaTeX. Is there a
>similarly modified sfonts.tex (or any other method) that I can use to
>generate a SliTeX format that takes advantage of the NFSS?
>

I am interested in the answer to this question as well. Has anyone got any idea?

-- 

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From: pierre.darmon%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Pierre Darmon) 
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: DVI2DVI
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:44:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: pierre.darmon%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Pierre Darmon) 

To: all
Reply-To: acc1bbs!pierre.darmon@ssr.com

I have obtained DVI2DVI version 0.8b with an executable dated 2/20/89.
Unfortunately, the documentation is in German and therefore useless to
me. In addition the documentation is provided as a .DVI file using fonts
I do not have.

The examples given by running DVI2DVI with no arguments are too succint
and I don't quite understand the syntax.

I have tried guessing a bit but, even though the program runs, I am not
getting what I expect.

Is there a newer version than the above, and is there a documentation in
English anywhere? Unfortunately I cannot FTP not can I send mail requests
to a server, given my special access to Usenet. I got DVI2DVI from
someone who got it from the Channel One BBS in Boston.

Any help appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Sorry of this is a repost. My feed site has had problem for the past 10
days and told me to repost everything I did not get replies for.

Pierre Darmon
acc1bbs!pierre.darmon@ssr.com
                                                                                                                             
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: Bodzio Dlugogorski <DH01@music.mus.polymtl.ca>
Subject: Need to write 40-80 points letters in latex
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:26:21 GMT

Recently, I have been loosing some sleep over a problem that
no one around seems to able to solve. Specifically, how to
include 40-80 points characters in articles written with latex.
Please answer to the list or to myself, at your convenience, Bodzio
(dh01@polytec1.bitnet).
From: mike@egf-bbs.uucp (System Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: uucp.texi
Date: 11 Oct 92 02:44:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: egf-bbs.1992Oct11.024416.851
Organization: EGF, MN Public Access Unix


I wish to view and print the file uucp.texi from Taylor UUCP v1.04beta.

I have Ghostscript v2.5.2, TeX v3.141, and a Mannesman Tally MT440-LM.

I _don't_ have Emacs, but I do I Jove v4.14 and Pico v1.4.

So, again, how can I get this file into human-readable format and how can
I print it.

Thanks,

Mike

P.S.  I snagged Texinfo-2.15 from prep.ai.mit.edu but I havn't quite made it
	work yet.

P.P.S.  I have _installed_ TeX and LaTeX but I havn't figured them out
	yet. 

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Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca (N Tomczak-Jaegermann)
Subject: Re: How to \input{whole-latex-file}
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:25:30 GMT

What is wrong with \includeonly?  At least for testing purposes if you
do not want start every new file with a new page.

If you have many files the following simple layout trick helps
to manage includes.  You write your list like this:

\includeonly{%
first,%
second,%
......
last%
}

followed by all corresponding includes.  Now by commenting out
and uncommenting relevant lines you may pick up only those files
which you want.  Great bonus if your paper needs a set of
macros, private redefinitions, etc.

   Michal Jaegermann
   ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex