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From: wung@eecom.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: ABA Teams that moved from one city to
Reply-To: wung@eecom.gatech.edu
Organization: School of EE, Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta, GA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 03:54:39 GMT

In article 18466@cheshire.oxy.edu, tamada@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael K. Tamada) writes:
>In article <1992Jul29.185535.8609@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> wakankar@egr.msu.edu (PUT YOUR NAME HERE) writes:
>
>>As promised, here is a list of NBA teams that moved from one city to another.
>>
>>Comment: Houston Rockets did not move from San Diego. They are successor of Denver Rockets of ABA. I think San Diego Rockets franchise folded.
>
>     Well that'll be news to Elvin Hayes, who was drafted by the San Diego
>Rockets (of the NBA) and moved to Houston with the rest of the Rockets.
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Are you sure about this?  I thought the Denver Rockets became the Denver 
Nuggets of the ABA.  I seem to remember the team went thru a lot of trouble 
introducing the new logo and stuff.

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From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: POGO-stick RETIRES (yes,aint kidding)
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:40:33 GMT

tswilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Sly Fox) writes:
>Dennis Rodman, the Detriot Pistons' pogo stick will retire soon 

According to the UPI report, what Rodman said was that he will make
a decision in a month time.  I.e., he has not yet decided to retire.

Among the reasons they said he gave for wanting to retire were Chuck
Daly's departure and lack of new challenges.


--Gidi

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From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: Re: All-Star brain teaser....
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 11:40:11 GMT

EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:
>mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack) writes:
>>
>>Hmmmm ... I knew there was a hint in the post. It took me a few
>>seconds to realize that the hint was in the header, and not in the
>>body of the message. Somehow this post strikes me as an effort by the
>>poster to save the face of a particular team, against the bashings
>>that it has received and will receive.  :-)
> 
>Oh come now! I would never be so naive!

    [...]

>What was the hint in the header, as you see it?

It was in the "From:" line! :-)

>--Eric

    --mack

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From: dxj@cci632.cci.com (Dennis Joyce)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Dr. J dunk
Keywords: Dr. J
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:52:16 GMT
Organization: [Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY

In article <1992Jul31.014525.15863@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> s1073200@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (Paul Jackson) writes:
>
>Just on the Dunk thread,
>
>I was watchng the US v Angola game on Australian TV and the commentator was
>saying that Drexler once dunked an 11 foot 2 inch high hoop. In a dunk comp.
>Is this true??
>If so, why did they do this , isn't the ring height 10 foot??
>
>Paul
>Australia

They did it to see how high he could get up and still dunk the ball. (obvious)

They had a similar competition 2 years ago right before the draft. They had a 
one-on-one competition and then a Dunk Contest. The winner was Dennis Johnsons
little brother who dunked on a rim that was 11' 4" (I believe give or take an 
inch)...

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From: tgross@cvbnet.prime.com (/tom)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Help ME Please!!!!!!!!!!!
Keywords: Jordan and Baseball
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:58:47 GMT
Reply-To: tgross@cvbnet.prime.com (/tom)
Organization: Computervision

In article <1992Jul21.001139.9978@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, s1073200@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (P.Jackson-Highlander) writes:
> 
> HI I need some help.
> 
>     Is Micheal JOrdan playing baseball???? If so who for and how is he going??
> 
> 
>     Thanks for your replies in advance!!!!
>     Paul
>     Australia

	Well, Paul, I just had to reply to your mail as the address of 
	Gippsland caught my eye - you see I once courted a girl from Metung
	by mail, and although I've since been to Melbourne and Sydney I
	never did actually see Gippsland so I feel compelled to answer your
	question - the Michael Jordan usually mentioned in conjunction 
	with Basketball is not playing baseball in any organized sense
	that I know of...

/tom
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From: jte@beefheart.cc.columbia.edu (Jeff Eldredge)
Subject: Re: Rebounding rates
Reply-To: jte@beefheart.cc.columbia.edu
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:23:50 GMT

In article <92197.152201IOR@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>  
IOR@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Thomas Hyer) writes:
> I ordered NBA players by rebounds per 48 minutes, with
> a cutoff at 1000 minutes played in 1991-92.  The results:
> 
>  35 THORPE,O    hou  13.54              These two surprised me.
>  36 COLEMAN,D   njn  13.44              I expected much more.
>  37 WILLIAMS,B  por  13.41

Well, Derrick Coleman beats out the guy he replaced by a hair.  And  
furthermore, Coleman is playing on a team that includes Dudley, the  
glass-meister, Bowie (12.73 per 48 min), Mills (12.69), and Morris (9.9).   
Besides, Coleman is a total ball-player, averaging 20 points a game and  
shooting over 50%.  

/jte
From: radkel@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: DALLAS makes offer to Stanley Roberts!!!!
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:42:41 GMT
Reply-To: radkel@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC

In article <1992Jul24.112424.19476@crd.ge.com>, hanley@fyi.crd.ge.com (Christopher W Hanley) writes:
>disclosed.  ?: Can the Magic sign Roberts and Shaq and stay under the cap
>or will they have to cut several players. I am sure the Magic will try
>to sign Roberts and then trade him at least. 

With Greg Kite and his contract around their necks again, I don't think so.
The problem with signing and trading Roberts is, who do you trade him for?
You won't be able to get much value, since you'd have to absorb yet another
salary.  Who are some low-cost players?  Maybe Golden State could be 
convinced to take Roberts now.
  Speaking of free agents, does anyone know the status of Larry Smith?
He was an unrestricted free agent at the end of season.  Does John Carter
(Warlord of Houston) have any ideas?
--Rob Clough
From: radkel@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Laettner vs Barkley
Date: 28 Jul 92 23:24:03 GMT
Reply-To: radkel@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC

In article <9207282110.AA10977@walt.disney>, chill@walt.UUCP (Curtis Hill) writes:
>So, we should substitute Christian "Angel" Laettner for Barkley?  Heh.
>That's rich.  Mr. Stomp-on-Prone-Player.  Mr. Elbow-to-the-Head.  The
>guy who's showing that he can't move his feet on defense.  Please.

Actually, I was hoping(before CL was named to the Olympic team) that Philly
would get Laettner because he and Barkley would be the perfect duo.  So I
was greatly pleased to see the two of them get along so well.  Two intense,
skilled, bad MF'ers who always have an entertaining quote or two.  These two
smash through the cliched veneer of insincere politeness that most jocks
subject the media to, often from the prompting of the coaches.  They play
hard, they help their teams, and they win.  And they make no apologies.
Very refreshing indeed.

--Rob Clough
From: edrury@3cpu.rain.com (Ed Drury)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Question...
Date: 21 Jul 92 06:04:01 GMT
Reply-To: edrury@.UUCP (Ed Drury)
Organization: Garden Lane Software

In article <f6Q-qtA@engin.umich.edu> martyp@engin.umich.edu (Martin Pochmara) writes:
>
>It was definately Yogi Berra who coined that phrase....

 Yogi said, "It ain't over til it's over". Dick Motta said, "It isn't
 over until the fat lady sings." But he didn't 'coin it' , he read in
 an San Antonio paper that the opera isn't over until the fat lady
 sings. Trust me, I used to work for the government.

>
>				Marty


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From: whjelmar@calvin.usc.edu (White Guy with an earring)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Another Dream Team Possibility
Date: 21 Jul 1992 12:35:00 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: calvin.usc.edu

Since everyone else is else is giving their picks for a second Dream Team,
I figured I'd send out mine.  So here goes....

C  - 	Brad Daugherty
PF -	Charles Smith
SF -	Dominique Wilkins
PG -	Tim Hardaway
SG -	Reggie Miller

Bench - Rony Seikaly (C), Shaq O'Neill (C/PF), Dennis Rodman (SF), 
	Reggie Lewis (SF/SG), Kevin Johnson (PG), Mitch Richmond (SG),
	Hersey Hawkins (SG)

Coachs - Pat Riley - Head Coach
	 Don Nelson - NBA Asst. Coach
	 Jerry Tarkanian - College Asst. Coach
	 Lou Carnesecca - College Asst. Coach

The only way to beat the Dream Team (I) would be if the other team could 
eat up the clock, and lit up the scoreboard from behind the 3 pt. line.
This team could do this.

The major difference in talent, I think, comes from the Center position.  The
speed and strength of a Ewing/Robinson combo, is truely awesome--there is 
no way that this team or any is going to match that....

Let me know what you think....

					-Walter-



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From: paulg@microsoft.com (Paul Goode)
Subject: Re: Trades & Triplecast
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:54:02 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Summary: Wilkins for the Defense

In article <1992Jul24.132813.13870@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>, gattuso@ssd.comm.mot.com (Christopher Gattuso) writes:
> As stated in another article, Stanly Roberts received a HUGE offer from 
> On the bright
> side, the Bulls have been talking seriously to Gerald Wilkins as a 
> backup shooting guard and for defensive purposes.  
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ !!!!

This is like saying "We're bringing in Mike Schooler [or any member
of the Seattle Mariners bullpen] for relief purposes." I don't see
what this guy brings to the Bulls: He's an undisciplined freelancer
on offense, and his only familiarity with defense is that it's something
that gets done to him. 

Paul
From: alan@sierra.unr.edu (Alan McKay)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Warriors' schedule 92-93
Date: 20 Jul 92 15:21:45 GMT
Reply-To: alan@wrc.unr.edu (Alan McKay)
Organization: Desert Research Institute, University of Nevada


In article <1992Jul18.204856.14285@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:
>I typed the following from Friday's S.F. Chronicle.
>Errors are a possibility.

[Warriors' 92-93 Schedule Omitted]

So, uh, Gidi...you got your season tix yet?


...Al
From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Sixers Camp News?
Date: 21 Jul 92 22:17:51 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

> [asking about Brian Oliver]

	I would say that Brian Oliver is probably gone.  Like Kenny Payne,
	he had plenty of time to show something, but instead, he kept on 
	throwing up bricks.  Oliver certainly has the talent and the drive,
	but it doesn't seem like the Sixers are in his future.  With the
	acquisition of Hornacek, his playing time is certainly down the tubes
	if he remains in Philly.

	Jazzy J
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From: nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Jimmy Ard
Date: 23 Jul 92 13:57:06 GMT
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory

In article <d1jy02fG1aos01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> msw10@nepenthe.as writes:
>Does anyone know what NBA Championship winning team Jim Ard played on?
>
>Michael Wong.

he used to back up Dave Cowens.

- nate
From: jamesd@techbook.com (James Deibele)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Bucks-Jazz
Date: 30 Jul 92 05:26:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: techbook.1992Jul30.052635.3669
Organization: TECHbooks of Beaverton Oregon - Public Access Unix

paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes:

>  This may be old news, but since I'm new to this net I thought I'd give
>  some news to Jazz fans on the (semi)newly-acquired Jay Humphries and
>  Larry Kryskowiak.

[ ... deleted ... ]

>  The trio of Stockton, Jeff Malone and Hump will be able to play with any
>  other guards in the league. If David Benoit wasn't a fluke, then Utah's
>  got a solid small forward to go with an intimidating group of big men in
>  Karl Malone, Eaton, Brown, Corbin and Kryskowiak.

I like Utah at power forward and point guard.  Corbin and Benoit both
looked very good last year, so the 3 spot seems to be covered.  I had
thought that Utah would go for Ainge, since a front court of Malone and
Corbin would still rip down a lot of free throws, letting Ainge roam on
the perimeter.   Not familiar enough with Humphries to know his game,
but I'd start wondering about outside shooting about now ...  Outside is
defined here as about 17' and out.  Benoit looked pretty good from long
range, and he'll have another year under his belt.  But I'm not that
impressed with Stockton as a gunner, nor with Jeff Malone if he's not
off-balance and falling down about 15' from the hoop.

Malone is one dimensional, not able to play Drexler or Majerle very well
on defense and a horrible backup point.  Or at least he was against the
Blazers.

>  Either Utah or Phoenix will displace Portland in the Finals next year.

I'm archiving this stuff.  Neither Phoenix nor Utah has shown that they
can integrate the pieces that they've picked up.  And while Portland has
to absorb Lightning Rod and probably 3 rookies, their first six has been
the same for three years now.

With all of his problems, Duckworth has feasted on Utah and Phoenix for
years and they've done nothing to improve at the center positions.  
Phoenix, I would argue, is much worse, and Mark Eaton will continue to 
petrify in the middle.  I think they're both a decent --- not great, maybe 
not even good, but decent --- big man away.  The legs are the first to go, 
and in a 7 game series, you're going to want height and bulk.  Eaton is
not mobile enough, West is not big enough, and I thought that Mike Brown
played as well as he could against the Blazers last year.
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From: burtonr@qso.Colorado.EDU (Richard Burton)
Subject: Re: Another Dream Team Possibility
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 00:04:36 GMT

In article <aco.711927454@sfu.ca> aco@fraser.sfu.ca (Alvin Milton Co) writes:
>whjelmar@calvin.usc.edu (White Guy with an earring) writes:

>>Since everyone else is else is giving their picks for a second Dream Team,
>>I figured I'd send out mine.  So here goes....

>>SG -	Reggie Miller
>
>No, I would'nt start him, even put him on the team.  Too one-dimentional!

Well, if you mean he has 25-ft range, can drive, has a decent number of
assists for a SG, can knock down free throws like no one's business, and 
his height gives others match-up probelms, then you need to redefine
your idead of one-dimensional.

Oh well, tomorrow's my last day at work before I move, so you won't have
my Pacers ramblings among the 50 posts a day saying Rex Chapman is now
with the Bullets and Ed and Dave's anal-retentive nyah-nyah-nyah posts.

T-Bone Burton
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From: markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205)
Subject: Re: JORDON OUT WITH BROKEN JAW!
Organization: Bell Northern Research Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:00:32 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.214452.866@HQ.Ileaf.COM> raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Christopher Raczka) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.182311.24180@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei) writes:
>> This has been distressing for me too.  Just how many basketball fans
>> that can't even spell Michael Jordan's name...
>> In article <1992Jul22.161929.28599@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:
>> Maybe if you really respected Jordan you'd learn how to spell his name.
>> 
>
>    You both need to realize that people DO MAKE typing mistakes
>
>    And if you can't make any personal allowances for the typing
>    mistakes of others, than I suggest that you look over your past
>    postings to this group ...

In defense of Gidi and Jerray, I believe the original poster had spelled
Jordan's name wrong about 3 times, consistently.  And since the 'o' and
the 'a' aren't really that close together, I'm going to fathom a guess that
the original poster didn't know better.


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From: chrisda@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (David Christensen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Reggie Lewis (was Re: 2nd Dream Team)
Date: 23 Jul 92 03:18:00 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University

Dave Meeks writes:
>	   PPG  FG%   RPG APG Steals Blks Comments
>Lewis      20.8 50.3  4.8 2.3 125    105  Tough defender, automatic scorer
>Hornacek   20.1 51.2  5.0 5.1 158    31   Very close call
>Miller     20.7 50.1  3.9 3.8 105    26   Not quite
>Richmond   22.5 46.8  4.0 5.1  92    34   Not quite
>Sarunas    18.9 53.8  2.9 3.4 116    10   Nope
>Dumars     19.9 44.8  2.3 4.6  71    12   Nope
>Malone     20.2 51.1  2.9 2.2  56     5   Nope
>Hawkins    19.0 46.2  3.3 3.1 157    43   Nope

I know this is sacrilege to the statophiles, but statistics like this suck.
All the myriad variables that go into each moment of each possession of each
game influence statistics like these in all sorts of ways.  PPG and the like
are awfully crude measurements of players.  So, you can either go furthur down
that road and measaure PPG per 48 minutes, PPG when Kevin Johnson plays point,
or PPG per 48 when KJ plays and Ed T. Rush is referee, on your home floor, when
you had eggs for breakfast...  Or, you can recognize that stats don't tell you
anything nearly as precise as they pretend.

That Lewis' shots go through the net one-tenth of one percent more of the time 
than Miller's, is meaningless.  If Miller played with Bird, McHale, and Parish,
maybe he'd shoot 55%--who knows?

Your most significant stat is Lewis' blocks.  105 is a hell of a lot.  And I
think Lewis is a damn good player.  Just that Hornacek is probably better.
And the guy in that list that gives Portland fits every year is not Lewis.  It's
Dumars.  I can't explain for you his 44% shooting, but he plays big.

David Christensen
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From: terry@leland.Stanford.EDU (Terry Wong)
Subject: Re: Watch Dream Team For Free
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 20:34:43 GMT



>>
>
>I take it that CTV is different from CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corp/Co. 
>or something).  I know that CBC carries olympic coverage (as well as 
I don't know what level of Olympicv coverage the Canadian networks are
carrying this year, but yes, the CBC is different than CTV.  The CBC
is government owned and CTV is a private network.  U.S. cities near large
Canadian cities can usually pick up the broadcast signal from both networks.
>tons of hockey games, but that's another newsgroup).  I live in 
>the Detroit area and never heard of CTV.  We do get CBC.  Are they 
>different?
From: km0o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kenneth Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Barkley's a Jerk
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:17:53 GMT
Organization: Doctoral student, Industrial Administration, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Charles,
You're such a idiot..
I'm glad you are on Phoenix so you can
ruin that team too.




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From: andy@misha.central.sun.com (Andy Knipp Metro SE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: USA/Croatia time ?
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:08:33 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: andy@misha.central.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: misha.central.sun.com

Anyone know the time of the next game ?  It would be nice to see
if MJ & Pippen can school Toni Kokuc,  which I am certain they will
try.


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From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: WEEKLY POSTING: Data available on FTP sites.
Originator: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Las Hermanas de Nuestra Senora de los Pepinares
Distribution: net
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 10:01:28 GMT

There is a bunch of NBA and NFL data -- stats, records, game
scores, schedules -- available for public FTP on wuarchive.wustl.edu.
You can access the data through anonymous FTP.  To do so, type:
	ftp wuarchive.wustl.edu
and then enter "anonymous" as the user-id, and your e-mail address
as the password.  Once in there, switch to the directory of your
choice.  For NFL scores, the directory is
	/pub/nfl-scores
For NBA stuff (so much more than just scores), it's
	/doc/misc/nbastats/facts
Both directories contain a README file, which will tell you more
about the available data.

The details of the FTP program may be system-dependent.  If in
doubt, consult your system administrators.  Enjoy!

--Gidi

PS:  Lots of thanks to Washington University at St. Louis.