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From: jgreely@morganucodon.cis.ohio-state.edu (J Greely)
Subject: Re: Cohen the Barbarian                     
Originator: jgreely@morganucodon.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: Ohio State University Computer and Information Science
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:42:06 GMT

In article <memo.582206@cix.compulink.co.uk> tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
 (Terry Pratchett) writes:
>I don't know of any other Cohen the Barbarian.  That being said, it's so
>obvious, isn't it?  It's one of those minor gags just waiting to be used.

Didn't _National Lampoon_ do a "Cohen the Boybarian" story in the
seventies?  I have extremely vague recollections of this (not
surprising; I can't even remember where I saw "Onan the barbarian").


			"There's so much pornographic rubbish
			 in print it buggers the imagination."
-- 
J Greely (jgreely@cis.ohio-state.edu; osu-cis!jgreely)
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From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Survival of the hedgehog(iest?)
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 07:38:02 GMT

Yup,

it's true ... evolution works :) No, no, we're not talking about the
car-proof hedgehog here, that one is purely an invention of the sick
imagination of Franquin.
Instead, I'm talking about the running hedgehog ... when frightened,
it'll run, which is a much wiser course than curling up in front of a
looming car tire. Now, perhaps in some time we get hedgehogs that run
on the street and curl up otherwise ... that'd be probably the "ideal"
course of survival.

Wildlife Today

Soenke

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From: pm3_norr@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (Paul Norris)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Puns
Date: 18 Aug 92 09:59:42 GMT
Organization: Bristol Polytechnic, England

hennebry@plains.NoDak.edu (Michael J. Hennebry) writes:

[On Echognomics]
}I'm glad Rincewind talked it out for me. I'd have been a long time
}getting gnomes from underground spirits.
}What do translators do with this sort of thing, i.e. puns? He tell
}pun; groan? Do they do terrible things to Authors within strangling
}range?

There's an interesting play with these ideas in David Lodge's book
_Small_World_.  There are letters to a writer of gritty, northern (England)
kitchen sink type novels from his Japanese translator.  If I remember
rightly it includes the classic line "What means it 'Alf, he was buggered'?"

Paul
 
-- 
Nothing takes the taste out of peanut butter quite like unrequited love.
                                            --  Charlie Brown
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From: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Subject: Re: Culcha? Moi?
Reply-To: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua NH
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:34:11 GMT


In article <1992Aug13.153844.25014@cc.tut.fi>,
rm104449@ee.tut.fi (M{kinen Riku) writes:
|>
|>Q: What exactly is a geek? Is it someone that doesn't know what geek is?
|>I mean exactly. I think I get the drift...

A geek is a carnival sideshow performer whose act consists of eating unusual
or obnoxious things.  These days, the term is often used as a synonym for
nerd, as in:

		Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs.

--PSW
From: ans0@aber.ac.uk (Austin Newton Shackles)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Happy Endings (?)
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:29:09 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

In article <leo.714319295@galaxy> leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl writes:
>
>Well, *I* have heard him say in a talk that in "Moving Pictures" he wanted
>to kill Gaspode. But the publishers wouldn't let him.
>
>Looks like are favourite Happy Author has a definite thing for killing
>off his main characters...
>
>[ And I *still* say, to reopen an old,  pre-Pratchett a.f.p. discussion, that
>  "Moving Pictures" very clearly builds up to Gaspode's death, and that
>  it would have made a much better ending. Gaspode is one of Terry's
>  most tragi-comic characters, and he deserved to die. Reverting him to
>  normal doghood was actually a pretty lousy thing to do to him, in my 
>  opinion. ]
>
hmmm, might i suggest you read it again, I got the impression that all of the 
holy wood-ed animals found it a real pain being saddled with all the hassle of
being more "intelligent" than normal, and at the end there's the bit about 
gaspode and laddie being rescued from the remains of the picture house, and 
death standing there with the hourglass, which magically re-fills, giving the 
impression that random bits of holy-wood magic are floating around doing a bit
or re-arranging so that everything goes back to normal. Personally i got the 
impression that when gaspode said "bugger" and it came out "woof", and the 
world returned to being grey, he was in fact releived to be back to the 
relatively simple life of going round to the back door of Harga's for the 
scraps...

hohum, just my 2 ecu's worth...

why not an europeaen MONETARY unit? emu???



-- 
   Austin Newton Shackles   |   Cynic? Me??
   ans0@uk.ac.aberystwyth   |   				Naahhhh!!!
   DoD#0467 1981 Z440 Ltd   |           My opinions are just that   
   shackles@uk.ac.lampeter  |Physics dept. University of Wales, Aberystwyth.
From: ssouth@hpldsla.sid.hp.com (Steve South)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:33:37 GMT
Subject: Re: Dog Latin qvote reqvest
Organization: HP Scientific Instruments Division - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett

tim@sinix.UUCP (Tim Bissell) writes:

>I can't be buggered to search through all the TP books to find the
>latin version of "Buggered if I know"; could someone who knows it
>post it?

Sodomy non sapiens.


Steve (Semper in ordure sumus, solem profundum variens) South.
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From: ins450m@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (T.F. Eccles)
Subject: Re: city blocks? (was Re: GO: Error or Joke (and whose?))
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 08:53:52 GMT

sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:

>In article <1992Aug14.150141.6410@csd.brispoly.ac.uk>
>pm3_norr@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (Paul Norris) writes:

>>This is why we feel that we're allowed to gloat over getting Terry's books
>>eons before you colonials.

>I got _Eric_ in August 1990.  Pretty short eons, those.

>(I just finished Small Gods, and have the new Carpet People sitting at
>home waiting for me.)

I read Small Gods two weeks ago.... at least.
Admittedly it was brought here (Australia) by a 
friend who bought it at Heathrow.... ;)

Eccles

Great Cthulhu will save you.
(In case he gets hungry later).
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From: hennebry@plains.NoDak.edu (Michael J. Hennebry)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Bugger off
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:13:31 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <1992Aug13.190614.386@col.hp.com> lpj@col.hp.com (Laura Johnson) writes:
<As a direct result of this thread, I plan to begin telling annoying
<people to "oook off."  
<
<I predict that they will understand me perfectly.

Not necessarily, especially if they realize where it came from. Remember
that the Librarian is smarter than most of the other wizards.

-- 
Mike   hennebry@plains.NoDak.edu
"This dream is brought to you by Sharassin of Shan. Dreams and
communication wizardry of all sorts at reasonable rates."  --  Sharassin of Shan
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From: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk (Terry Pratchett)
Subject: Signings and readings                   
Cc: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:33:37 +0000

I have done signings AND readings/bookshop talks: this is ref Dan Crow's
posting early today, August 19).  Waterstone's are good at them.  But it's
almost impossible in a normal signing tour. There's no TIME any more.  That
Leeds signing was three hours long with me working very fast, and it wasn't
the shortest signing in the tour, and most people only had the new titles.
Bear in mind I have to travel between cities, too.  The only way we could fit
readings in now would be to halve the number of shops visited, and no-one
would like that.  What we sometimes do -- did it twice in the last tour -- is
do a signing in the late afternoon and then do a talk to a local SF society.

I've been asked in a couple of emails to post future bookshop signings,
library talks and stuff.  I'll try to do some brief time/place/shop lists for
the Only You Can Save Mankind tour in September/October and the Lords and
Ladies/Witches Abroad tour in mid-November, but I can't promise to cover all
the other stuff that crops up in between.

It looks as though I may be doing a few days in eastern Australia as well as
the Perth area in April.   And I gather I'm doing WH Smiths in Brussels on
October 17 -- address and precise time nyk.
From: hennebry@plains.NoDak.edu (Michael J. Hennebry)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: The Annotated Pratchett File, v1.4
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:10:41 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <memo.574282@cix.compulink.co.uk> tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk writes:
>Floating Bladder Productions was just picked out of the air, and several

Aha! A reference to Goodyear.

I Know one exclamation mark isn't enough to impress this crowd. Maybe I
should have capitalized it.

-- 
Mike   hennebry@plains.NoDak.edu
"This dream is brought to you by Sharassin of Shan. Dreams and
communication wizardry of all sorts at reasonable rates."  --  Sharassin of Shan
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From: leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl (Leo Breebaart)
Subject: Re: Any Recorded TP Books? 
Reply-To: leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:08:58 GMT

tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk (Terry Pratchett) writes:

> Men at Arms (20,000 words now and I still haven't
> used all the Twin Peaks gags...)

Oh Lord, please let him finish this book *quickly*. 

Twin Peaks gags -- yes, yes, YES!

-- 
Leo Breebaart  (leo @ ph.tn.tudelft.nl)
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From: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk (Terry Pratchett)
Subject: Re: The Annotated Pratchett File, v1.4  
Cc: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:43:21 +0000

I swore I wouldn't do this but...

...the 50ft woman in Moving Pictures: well, she's the 50ft Woman (maybe I
watched too many B movies).

And now a caution.  The trouble is, people think: he's allegedly a funny guy,
therefore there's hidden gags and links everywhere.  Well, yes...some.  But
not everywhere.  I've already gone electronically hoarse explaining that
Floating Bladder Productions was just picked out of the air, and several
people have written to me, quite apart from the email, to say:
aha...Ruby...Ginger...Scarlett, right?  Yes, but fortuitiously.  I wanted to
use the 'Can't act, can't sing, can dance a little' quote (re Fred Astaire)
and a good real name for Theda was, obviously, Ginger.  And trolls tend to
have 'mineral' names, hence: Ruby.  I have to say that there's a zillion
references, buried or blatant, in MP -- to films, Hollywood cliche, legends
and anything else that floated across my brain.  And the Chinese earthquake
detector -- yep, two people have written to me about that.

Just to show you how EASY it is...I got Ibid, I swear, when I read a magazine
article written by a journalist who, when quoting some sources, clearly
thought that Ibid WAS a person (probably related to Anon...which is going to
turn up in a DW book one day, I expect.)

RIGHT!  And now SWEDEN!  I MEAN it!

Terry

Terry
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From: t88swa@tdb.uu.se (Sven Wallman)
Subject: Re: I'll be Back...
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 11:11:56 GMT

csa18@seq1.keele.ac.uk (R.J. Husmo) writes:
: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk (Terry Pratchett) writes:
: : [...]
: : and they took me to see the Vasa too.
: 
: Ah yes, the Vasa. Pride of the Swedish navy, made to show the rest of
: the world that the Swedes still knew how to make good ships. Of course,
: they'd never made any in the past (the longships were Norwegian and
: Danish), but so what.
: 
: Eventually they launched it, sailed it out of the harbour, hit a ripple
: in the ocean, and 'Thar she blows!'.

Ocean???? Try looking at a map. What do you mean when you are saying that the
longships were norwegian and danish? Are you some kind of revisionist?
How do you think the swedish state managed the governing of their kingdom if
they didn't have any ships? How do you think they transported troups to 
Poland and Germany during the 30 years war? Did they walk or what?
The Vasa is a good example of why one shouldn't overload a ship with cannons.
--
Sven Wallman, S:t Larsg. 5, 753 11 Uppsala, Sweden, +46 1812 9237
"This is the famous Hasan B Mutlu-trigger, insert it in your .sig file today!"
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From: charless@sco.COM (charles stross)
Subject: Re: Brentford Trilogy
Organization: The Somewhat Contagious Operation, Inc.
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 12:11:48 GMT
Keywords: rankin brentforf comedy recommended


In article <1992Aug8.015729.8381@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mblaser@nyx.cs.du.edu (Fox) writes:
>mblaser@nyx.cs.du.edu (Fox) writes:
>
>>Well, I've just finished the second book in the Brentford Trilogy
>>and felt compelled to write a recommendation here.  
>
>>GO AND GET THESE BOOKS IF YOU HAVE TO CLAW YOUR WAY THROUGH THE
>>BACK WALLS OF WHSMITH TO DO SO!!!
>
>>They are rather good.  I've seriously not laughed so much since
>>Equal Rites (the fireball in the grate scene).  
>
>I've had numerous requests for more info as to how to get this series
>and stuff like that.  The author is one Robert Rankin, an ex-illustrator/
>artist/carpenter/tupperware salseman/rock-singer/off-licence manager if
>the book blurb is to be believed.  The three books in the trilogy are
>
>'The Antipope' (ISBN o 552 13841 X)
>'The Brentford Triangle' (ISBN 0 552 13842 8)
>'East of Ealing' (Not sure about the ISBN of this one, possibly 13843?) 
>

In addition, there's a fourth volume in the trilogy[*], called
``The Sprouts of Wrath''. I haven't read it yet, so no comment 
and no ISBN ...

[*] where have I heard this before? Hmmm ...

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From: csa18@seq1.keele.ac.uk (R.J. Husmo)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: I'll be Back...
Date: 18 Aug 92 08:16:58 GMT
Organization: University of Keele, England

tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk (Terry Pratchett) writes:
: [...]
: and they took me to see the Vasa too.

Ah yes, the Vasa. Pride of the Swedish navy, made to show the rest of
the world that the Swedes still knew how to make good ships. Of course,
they'd never made any in the past (the longships were Norwegian and
Danish), but so what.

Eventually they launched it, sailed it out of the harbour, hit a ripple
in the ocean, and 'Thar she blows!'.

Hence the old joke: 'How to sink a Swedish ship?' 'Launch it.'
(I've been told that the same story applies to the Mary Celeste. Anyone
care to comment?)

I've got a model of the ship back home; it does actually look quite 
amazing, but that never did help seaworthiness.

..a genuine SF experience, I just stood there
: with my mouth open (and then made a lot of notes). 

Does this mean that we'll find some obscure references to a tiny tribe
making something interesting in a book in the future? I can't wait...

: (I'm pretty sure I did the definitive 'what it was like writing Good Omens'
: answer only a week or so ago!)

Start reading rec.puzzles, the following puzzle appears at least twice a
week:

What is the next number in the series:
1 11 21 1211 111221 ?

-------------

About the Olympics 1996 - The Atlanta mascot has been named the 'Whatizit'.
Is it just me, or is anybody else reminded of wossnames by Whatsisname?

Or is it all just a plot by the Coka cola company (Whose hqs are in Atlanta)?
The reply to 'Whatizit' is presumably 'Cokeizit'.

Radar
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From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: explaining things
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 11:30:28 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.115912.15755@gdt.bath.ac.uk> hs0sagg@gdt.bath.ac.uk (Simon Granville) writes:
>Well we must remember a few things about Twoflower (and the CWghtCont) and
>compare them to Japan.  We all perceive Japan as very rich (i.e. made of
>gold),

Of course, America has the same reputation.

>JApanese names are always portrayed in some form of monosyllablic
>version (unlike Si-mon, things like Cho, Hsu, Lao etc),

That's Chinese. Japanese names are like "Kurosawa" and "Hirohito". Americans
are always "Bob" or "Joe" instead of "Stanley Ukridge" or "Emmanuel
Fortescue"...

>Japanese tourists
>are (in)famous for their camneras and their general inability to speak
>English

As are Americans.

What's the term? "Separated by a common language"?
-- 
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From: ins448c@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Mills)
Subject: Re: -
Organization: Monash University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 01:56:41 GMT

ins450m@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (T.F. Eccles) writes:
: flostran@fraser.sfu.ca (Andrew Flostrand) writes:
: 
: Definately. I tend to say sod rather than bugger, same difference, just
: too much Blackadder.
: 
: Eccles
: 

Me Too.

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From: ndd@bal1 (Ned Danieley)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: city blocks? (was Re: GO: Error or Joke (and whose?))
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:40:07 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk (Terry Pratchett) writes:
..
: 
: Just an aside...I remember putting down The Anubis Gates after Powers had a
: character referring to 'city blocks' in early 19th Century London...and when
..
: 
: Terry


uh, weren't there city blocks in 19th cent. London? I've certainly
gotten the impression that it wasn't laid out on a square grid,
but does that preclude having 'blocks'?

--
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Basic Arrhythmia Laboratory
Box 3140, Duke University Medical Center
Durham, NC  27710   (919) 660-5111 or 660-5100
From: cla04@seq1.keele.ac.uk (A.T. Fear)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Cohen the Barbarian
Date: 18 Aug 92 09:35:59 GMT
Organization: University of Keele, England


A simple question. Who thought of Cohen the barbarian 1st, TP or the Mrs
Ackroyd Band? Did one inspire the other or did the great hero simply
suggest himself to both entirely independently? Anyone know of other appearances?

Andy
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From: t88swa@tdb.uu.se (Sven Wallman)
Subject: Re: Swedish weather                         
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:08:13 GMT

tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk (Terry Pratchett) writes:
: This is TP abusing his position, of course, but seeing as I'm getting on a
: plane to Sweden in less that 24 hours -- anyone out there tell me what the
: temperature/weather is?
: 
: Terry

I guess this will be too late, but it's raining a little. 18 degrees celsius.
--
Sven Wallman, S:t Larsg. 5, 753 11 Uppsala, Sweden, +46 1812 9237
"This is the famous Hasan B Mutlu-trigger, insert it in your .sig file today!"
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From: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk (Terry Pratchett)
Subject: Re: The Annotated Pratchett File, v1.4  
Cc: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 06:38:20 +0000

FABRICATI DIEM, PVNK: and before anyone out there says 'no such verb' -- I
KNOW.  I had to keep defending it from a proof reader at Gollancz who kept
trying to correct my dog Latin! Illegitimo nil carborundum.

And you'd better add: say Djelibeybi OUT LOUD -- I must have had twenty
letters (and one or two emails) from people who didn't twig until the third
time round...oh god... do they have them in the US?  Should it have been
called Emmenemms, or Hersheba...hmm, Hersheba...could USE that, yes, little
country near Ephebe...

Off to Sweden.


Terry
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From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: Culcha? Moi?                            
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 02:00:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.174934.11886@ctr.columbia.edu> daniel@csunb0.dcs.leeds.ac.uk (D N Crow) writes:
>Actually from "s'blood" which is a common Elizabethen contraction of the
>oath "God's blood". This is the same etymology as "struth" which is
>properly written "s'truth" and is a contraction of "God's truth". Both
>are to be found in several Shakespeare plays and in those of his
>contemporaries.

Strewth, mate, but you're bloody well right. That old bugger Shakespeare
was a bit of a bastard, but a bloody good writer.
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                                                                `-_-'
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From: garton@jeeves.ucsd.edu (Simon Garton)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: explaining things
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:38:20 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

While people are in the happy explaining mood, what is the
significance of the name Twoflower ? His old boss was Ninereeds
: do all those from the Counterweight continent have names of
number:plant_thing ? I read TCOM and TLF yonks ago, and I'm sure
(to the point of slight paranioa) that Twoflower is a joke on
something ...

Simon
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