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From: Frank Hoffmann <fh.pad@sni.de>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Help!! "Attempt to exceed system login limit"
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:22:38 GMT
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Informationssysteme AG, Paderborn, Germany
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$stevee@sasb.byu.edu (Stephen Eldredge) writes:

>Hello again,

>	Along with printing problems I have been plauged repeatedly with 
>this error as one of our developers tries to login multiple times.  The 
>result is that he,(or anyone elso for that matter) cannot login until 
>someone else logs out.  My psuedo ttys limit is set to 80 users, and we have 
>20M in ram.  I am running SCO UNIX 3.2.4 sysV.  The error that comes up 
>whether login in at the console or remotely is:

>Attemp to exceed system login limit on ttyp1  (or sometimes ttyp2)

>Still being in my first few months of unix.admindom  I am at a loss.

>Thanks for any help!!

>Steve Eldredge


hi steve!

normally (if this might be the sufficient word) this is being caused by an
activation key that dosn't have server privileges. (such as a demonstration
or single-user license).

First check out, if you have used the correct server-key when installing the
system. You can check the key by looking into /usr/adm/messages.

Hope this helps.

ff
frank

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From: Neklan_Brozensky@mindlink.bc.ca (Neklan Brozensky)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: How to keep users from logging in
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 20:24:28 GMT

> Marc Fournier - Admin writes:
>
> Msg-ID: <1992Dec09.180324.21093@r-node.gts.org>
> Posted: Wed, 09 Dec 1992 18:03:2
>
> Org.  : R-node Public Access UNIX Information System (416-249-5366)
>
> In article <1992Dec8.181744.770@progress.com> rich@progress.COM (Rich
> Lenihan) writes:
> >
> >3.  Hack (or get pre-hacked) source for login program with /etc/nologin
> >functionality already built in.  While I don't really mind installing
> >roll-your-own software, I don't have the time to support it.
> >
>         Well...there is a 'login' replacement for SysV that I'm using
> here that I haven't had a problem with yet...and it has a file called
> /etc/usrtime that allows you to restrict access to specific users, or
> times, or lines....or just restrict everyone like you want.  It will
> also present the user with a message as to 'why' they are locked out.

Perhaps I'm missing the point of what's trying to get accomplished here, but
has someone suggested just editing the /etc/profile and have a shell script
check to some other file which contains users you don't want on or what ever
criteria of exclusion you want to use.

In some other thread some time ago... someone said never hack when you can
use a shell wrapper.  If I go and put someone else's hacked login program on
my computer, (which is what is being suggested here) I really don't know
*what* kind of security risk I've got.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Management of Jr. Unix Sys Admin
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Turkey Division
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 21:40:30 GMT

In article <BETSYS.92Dec20130240@ra.cs.umb.edu> betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz) writes:

>This is all off the top of my head. We do give students a lot of room.

Until next Tuesday, I'm a student.  Last fall we had one Unix machine
(our main operations are all VMS-based) mainly for experiments and for
motivated students.  I was taking a course in compiler design at Mt.
Holyoke College down the road which was based in a Unix environment
under GCC, so I persuaded the computer center staff to let me install
GCC for the course.  Some time after that I installed rn so that I
wouldn't have to use ANU News, and before long I'd also installed some
other miscellaneous shells and tools.

So when Amherst decided to move all newsreading-related jobs to Unix
to ease the load on our creaking VAX/VMS systems, I was the one (being
the person with the most hands-on Unix experience) to whom the task of
installing and evaluating assorted newsreaders fell.  By the end of
this summer, I had installed the bulk of the non-vendor-supplied
software on our system and have been doing most of the day-to-day
tasks since, with a lot of policy discussions in between.

What can be assigned to junior administrators?  News maintenance
(addgroup, rmgroup) is pretty straightforward.  People with a working
knowledge of shell programming can do nearly any script-related task,
and people with a decent knowledge of C can work on bug fixes.  A
simple knowledge of where system software is located (and the hardware
specs, such as endianness) is all that's usually required for software
installation.  If I had a clearer, more distinct idea of what *I've*
been doing over the last few months, I might have more ideas. :-) I'd
probably also have more ideas about how to compartmentalize system
administration if our Unix operation were larger.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /               Rocks say goodbye.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) / 
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: narayan@sut.ac.jp (Devendra Narayan)
Subject: Planning for a 10,000 user network !
Followup-To: comp.unix.admin, comp.sys.sun.admin
Organization: Science University of Tokyo
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:24:07 GMT

	Our university is now planning for a large network of Unix
workstations. There a few questions I have about large scale
networks and experiences that other large sites have.

	We plan to have about 700-1000 workstations in our Tokyo campus
with 7,000-10,000 students having accounts on these machines. From
the administrators standpoint, what we would like to have in the
system is that any of these users should be able to log onto any
of the workstations and access their unique home directory. We would
have to use NIS ( ? ) and NFS. Whether we have all the information
on one large ( Super ? ) server or a couple of smaller servers will,
of course, depend on the cost - performance of the server(s). 

	I am seeking information about the comparative performance of
various hardware manufacturers server machines as well as on
issues that we will have to be concerned with - network speed
and performance ( whether to use multiple ethers or FDDI or 100
baseT or HIPPI or whatever ), the server CPU and internal bus
performance, whether to use a single, large mainframe or even
super-computer level machine or perhaps distribute the whole
information ( all the 10,000 homes plus the NIS info. ) over 
several servers. From the user's standpoint, all this has to be
transparent so that when he/she logs in to any workstation, he
sees the same home directory. There are also issues of security
etc. that probably need to be considered. NIS apparently has an
upper limit of 2500 users and I would welcome any information
on NIS replacements.

	I seek input from unix administrators from large academic sites
who probably have already faced ( and hopefully solved ) some if
not all of these issues. Would really appreciate any and all input.
I do not know if there would be enough interest in the group about
such matters, but if there is, perhaps replies to the newsgroup
will generate more interest and be useful to others as well.

Thanks
Devendra Narayan

===  = = ===       Devendra Narayan
=    = =  =        Education Division,
===  = =  =        Information Processing Center
  =  = =  =        Science University of Tokyo
===  ===  =        E-mail : narayan@sut.ac.jp or narayan@caren.net
From: astone@irscscm.UUCP (Art Stone)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Best method for filesystem copy?
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:44:02 GMT
Organization: Internal Revenue Service

markb@news.gsfc.nasa.gov (Mark R. Baith) writes:
: 
: I need to copy a filesystem currently housed on a 1 Gb disk to a 2 Gb
: disk.  dump seemed like a good idea, but the procedure kept asking for
: additional tapes??? I was told that dump must be given a large enough
: combo of length/density in order to "fool" the procedure into thinking
: you're basically doing a dump to one huge tape rather than a disk...
: this is somewhat inconsistent with what I've read on the subject, but
: then again, the SGI man page on dump says absolutely nothing about
: disk to disk dumps...Does anyone have an idea?
: 
:                                Thanks in advance,
: 
:                                           Mark


from one filesystem to another.  The "other" filesystem may have to be remote
mounted.  Anyway, you cissue the following command:

	find /sourcedir -print | cpio -pdmv /newdir

Good luck!!
From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Management of Jr. Unix Sys Admin
Date: 20 Dec 92 18:02:40 GMT
	<1992Dec18.133136.3259@ccd.harris.com>
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

Here are some random tasks that our students have done recently:
   --modified the existing backup script
   --script to go through online tape logs (from dump) and pick out
     old tapes
   --script to run du and send mail to all users with over a certain
     number of blocks used (actually the sysprog wrote it but ops
     modified it)
   --script to list all files, with full pathname, sorted in
     descending size order 
   --(another one the sysprog did) script to list all members of a 
      given group by name and userid
   --find all users with more than one home directory and
     reconcile....
   -- one ambitious student installed both swais and gopher, 
      He had previously re-written a PD help system to work on
      our machines.
   
Lessee, what else isn't too hard:
 -- checking bad blocks and re-partitioning a disk (check with Sr
    Sysadm to confirm partition table)
 -- changing a workstation from dataless to diskless client and back
 -- upgrading an OS, or installing an OS . If you have a spare
    workstation to play with for a week, strip it bare of software and
    then bring it up to full membership in your system.

We expect all of our students to be able to do full and incremental
dumps and restores. If you aren't already responsible for that, take
it over. On our site, requests for restores are SO frequent that any
backup system gets "checked" automatically.

This is all off the top of my head. We do give students a lot of room.


 
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MACS Dept, UMass/Boston               Phone   : 617-287-6448
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: billh@cadence.com (Bill Hassell)
Subject: Re: Getting Sony workstation to use nameserver properly.
Keywords: sony nameserver
Organization: Cadence Design Systems
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:02:04 GMT

In article <9234418.11305@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> ajd@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Ashley Dreier) writes:
>
>Hi there. I'm running a small network of SGIs, xterminals and
>a lone Sony workstation. The sony doesn't do very much, so I'm 
>running a nameserver from it. This appears to work fine
>from all of the other machines.  Here comes the catch though.....
>
>The sony is unable to use the nameserver at all (even though it's 
>running it). It is also unable to use it's /etc/hosts file properly.
>Here's a quick scenario of what happens :-
>
>The /etc/hosts file is of the standard format
>i.e. IP-number full.host.address.name alias
>(e.g. 144.110.176.13 tre.vis.citri.edu.au tre  -- this is the machine in
>question).
>If I try to 'ping' another machine, (or any other command to reach 
>another machine) I get varying results, depending on the name I choose.
>e.g.
>ping 144.110.176.13 - okay
>ping tre.vis.citri.edu.au - fail
>		ping: unknown host tre.vis.citri.edu.au
>ping tre - okay
>
>This is the same for any machine names in the hosts file. Whether they
>are in the same network or not (I've tried various domains).
>If I do the same from the other machines, it all works okay.
>I can even use partial names (due to the domain searches in the 
>resolv.conf files), such as tre.vis.
>
>The file /etc/resolv.conf exists, and orders the nameservers
>as usual, also listing 'hostresorder bind local', etc.
>
>Can anyone please shed some light on this for me, either things to
>try or a solution??? It would be very much appreciated, as it's had
>me licked for quite a while now (and a few other people too).
>
>Oh, and by the way, the model is NWS-1850 and is running News-OS 3.3
>It's running version 4.8.3 of BIND.
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>			Ash (ajd@cs.mu.oz.au)
>
>Either mail or postings are find.
>
>

Have you tried running mkhosts in order to rehash the /etc/hosts file?
billh@cadence.com

Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: trondk@zevs.ifi.unit.no (Trond Kandal)
Subject: nagehist for Suns
Organization: University of Trondheim, Norway
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 10:11:58 GMT

I have a weird situation with nagehist for Sun.

It seems like it is scanning the directory but when the program is done,- it
don't write the report ...

I have installed the program on /usr/local/bin and the program is run during the
login-sessions.

I have in the login-file:

nagehist $HOME

the program then respons:

directory <value for $HOME>
and print out the line to indicate age and nothing more ...
The real work of printing the age of files is never done.

Has anybody any idea ?

Thanks.

Trond Kandal.
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but I was mistaken."
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: dermoudy@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (Julian Dermoudy)
Subject: Re: Suppressing banner pages
Reply-To: J.R.Dermoudy@cs.utas.edu.au
Organization: University of Tasmania, at Hobart.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:17:39 GMT

In <1992Dec14.153936.17664@dvorak.amd.com> hbowser@dvorak.amd.com (Horace Bowser) writes:

>Can anyone tell me how to suppress banner pages on an HP IIIsi
>hosted from a SPARC2?  We're using hp's hpnpf software with
>input and output filters in the printcap entry.  Any hints will be
>most appreciated!  Thanks
>
>--
>Horace
>horace.bowser@amd.com

From printcap(5), ensure you specify the toggle option "sh" which will suppress
the printing of the burst (header) page.  By default this option is false -
i.e. the banner page is printed.

						-Julian.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: dfox@quack.sac.ca.us (David Fox)
Subject: Re: UUCP makepaths
Keywords:  uucp make depend  
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
Date: 14 Dec 1992 03:00:42 UTC

In article <1992Dec9.192604.21082@netcom.com> cyclone@netcom.com (Bill Sheppard) writes:
>I recently discovered that our maps haven't been updated since 1990 (Sun 3/50,

>before), but the makefile didn't check for new maps unless I manually did a
>'make depend', which updated the makefile.  Is this something that will happen
>automatically when necessary, or do I need to do a 'make depend' from time to
>time?

I doubt the software knows to automatically update the makefile at periodic
times.

So, you're limited to two basic choices:
 
1) periodically run make depend depending on how frequently the need is
   to do this

2) make a cron job or queue up a request to make depend via 'at' for
   sometime in the distant future (say six months from now, depending
   again on how frequently you feel this data changes)


>Bill
>cyclone@netcom.com
--
David E. Fox
dfox@quack.sac.ca.us


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From: abcc@DIALix.oz.au (Adrian Booth Computing Consultants)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,aus.sun-works
Subject: Ethernet network printer server boxes
Date: 15 Dec 1992 18:00:08 +0800
Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.dialix.oz.au
Summary: Are there any reasonably cheap ones?
Keywords: Ethernet network printer servers
X-Newsreader: NN version 6.4.19 #1

All I want is a magic box with an Ethernet interface at one end, and a parallel
port at the other, so we can have printers on the network that don't tie up
machines and print at parallel port speeds.

I don't care if they talk LAT or TCP/IP, but it would be nice if they could be
easily expanded to more than 1 parallel port.

Are there any reasonably inexpensive options? Some companies in Australia sell
them for over $A2,000 each!

Please response by email; I will summarise and post.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: pb@sunra10.cern.ch (Peter Beckmann)
Subject: Re: How to do a lpq of all queques on printer at once
Reply-To: peterb@dxcern.cern.ch
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 12:04:32 GMT

Alternatively one could use

	lpstat -o

Peter
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: serini@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (Piero Serini)
Subject: Re: move a filesytem? corrections
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 11:48:43 GMT

serini@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (Piero Serini) writes:

[...]

># tar cf - . | compress | (cd /usr2 ; uncompress | tar xf - )

[...]

If you have special files under /usr use cpio instead of tar
Read cpio man pages ...

[...]

># sync ; sync
># cd /
># /bin/rm -rf /usr
# cd /usr
# /bin/rm -rf *
So you can unmount it ... sorry

[...]

I'm sorry .. I assumed you have no special files (devices)
under /usr, but I cant' tell, so you can use tar or cpio
as you need.
About the rm of /usr, maybe your system will not be happy
if you remove it before you unmount. Sou you have to cd into /usr
then /bin/rm -rf *   This whill leave all .* files in it,
but I think it's not a problem. You CAN'T /bin/rm .*
						  ^^
safely, as if your rm doesn't check . and .. it will remove
the ROOT directory!

Be careful.
Disclaimer as in the 1st article ..

Bye
Piero

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From: ce095@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey Scott Traigle)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Strange mail problems (continued)
Date: 17 Dec 1992 21:53:38 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ce095@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey Scott Traigle)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I forgot to include a sample of the bounced mail's header so you
could see what it's doing. It might help shed some light on the
situation. Here it is:

From mailer-daemon@mailrus.cc.umich.edu  Mon Dec  7 19:29:38 1992
Received: from mailrus.cc.umich.edu by norway.biop.umich.edu via SMTP
(920330.SGI/911001.SGI)
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 92 19:23:55 -0500
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <mailer-daemon@mailrus.cc.umich.edu>
Subject: Returned mail: Cannot send message for 3 days
Message-Id: <9212080023.AA00157@mailrus.cc.umich.edu>
To: <traigle>
Status: RO

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From: traigle@norway.biop.umich.edu (Jeff Traigle)
Message-Id: <9212042351.AA22660@norway.biop.umich.edu>
Subject: test
To: traigle@venus.phar.umich.edu
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1992 18:51:21 -0500 (EST)
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst)
Subject: Re: Best method for filesystem copy?
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 22:37:52 GMT
Organization: The Programmer's Pit Stop, Ann Arbor MI

In article <BzEwnr.LCC@bcstec.ca.boeing.com> anthis@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Mike Anthis) writes:
>In article <BzEBKA.GBG@dcs.ed.ac.uk> paul@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Anderson) writes:
>>Take a look at Elizabeth Zwicky's paper on "torture-testing backup programs"
>
>Would someone please send me a reference for this paper?

Likewise, is the paper available electronically anywhere?

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.wizards,comp.sys.sun.admin
From: vulture@imperial.ac.uk (Thomas Sippel - Dau)
Subject: Re: revisited, determining if anyone else is logged on
Reply-To: cmaae47@imperial.ac.uk
Organization: Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 18:56:53 GMT

In article <1992Dec9.155330.6175@Princeton.EDU>, subbarao@fc.hp.com (Kartik Subbarao) writes:

- Since they always like to compare computers to life, let's take the analogy
- of my desk drawer in my office and my white board. While I might not like 
- someone snooping in my desk drawer, and I might not find it too nice if
- someone erased my equations on the white board, if someone wrote 'Kilroy
- was here' on it, I certainly can't be sure that Kilroy did it.

Quite, but if somebody dropped a packet of heroin into your desk drawer 
(much quicker than searching it), then it would be your problem to explain
that, and "Kilroy did it" would not be very useful, believe me.

                               Thomas

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