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From: fengstad@alpha.uleth.ca (Grant Fengstad)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Re: How to generate a mail log file
Date: 15 Aug 92 17:09:06 GMT
Organization: University of Lethbridge

In article <1352000002@igc.org> Charlie Rosenberg <crosenberg@igc.org> writes:
>
>
>Most everyone has responded that I should check out the syslogd*
>and syslog.conf files.  I just installed TCP/IP 1.2.0 (Xenix) and I
>will be dern if SCO includes any such programs.  I looked at /etc and
>then did a find for syslog and it looks like it just isn't there.
>
>Still trying to get sendmail to create a mail log file... :-)
>

Create /usr/adm/syslog (an empty file).  If this file exists, then you
should be able to activate logging.  For ftpd, you have to modify the
initd.conf file as well to invoke ftpd -d.

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From: tron@Veritas.COM (Ronald S. Karr)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.mail.uucp,comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: Smail3: HELO <local.host> wrong? (was: Re: BSMTP instead of rmail)
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:06:08 GMT
Organization: VERITAS Software

In article <1992Aug10.170257.8019@twg.com> david@twg.com (David Herron) writes:
>>The Smail3 script batchsmtp (used to
>>send batched smtp scripts) is doing this:
>>		echo "HELO <$LOCALHOST>"
>>But when you use uusmtp (not batched), the <> are missing.
>>
>>What's the reason for this inconsistency?
>
>Why is the <>'ing there in the first place?  BSMTP is supposed to be a
>form of SMTP modified for use in a store-and-forward network.  It is
>supposed to take one half of a normal SMTP conversation, bundle it up,
>and send it across a store-and-forward network.

Its just there because I was a typed it in wrong.  Why does anybody ever
make mistakes?
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From: mailman@bhprtc.scpd.oz.au (Mail Manager)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Sendmail-Mailer Interfacing Problem
Summary: problem of interfacing sendmail mith mailer
Keywords: sendmail, mailer, duplicate recipients
Date: 18 Aug 92 07:06:50 GMT
Organization: BHP Steel, Sheet & Coil, Research & Technology Centre


We have a problem of interfacing sendmail with a mailer. The sendmail
always put a duplicate recipient name at the "To:" header, vis:

To: abcd@cs.com, abcd@cs.com

Please suggest possible reasons and solutions.

Some details:
(a) The mailer works very well except that it posts duplicate messages.
(b) All other parts of the headers are correct.  
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From: pjw@math30.sma.usna.navy.mil (Peter J. Welcher -- math FACULTY <pjw@sma.usna.navy.mil>)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: spool directory
Keywords: sendmail mail spool
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:47:15 GMT
Reply-To: pjw@math30.sma.usna.navy.mil (Peter J. Welcher -- math FACULTY <pjw@sma.usna.navy.mil>)


Is there any way to have sendmail on a Sun deposit incoming mail elsewhere
that /var/spool/mail/userid ? I'd really rather have mail go to something
like ~userid/.inmail.

Hope this isn't a FAQ.
Please reply via email, I don't always have time to wade thru all the groups
I'm trying to track, and so might miss a posted reply.

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From: barnett@grymoire.crd.ge.com (Bruce Barnett)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Re: Perl Package to test Sendmail.cf?
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:04:50 GMT
	<1992Aug12.155740.17492@decuac.dec.com>
Reply-To: barnett@crdgw1.ge.com
Organization: GE Corp. R & D, Schenectady, NY

In article <1992Aug12.155740.17492@decuac.dec.com> avolio@dco.DEC.COM (Frederick M. Avolio) writes:

>   Why is this better or different than testing sendmail using sendmail?

If it's like the one I wrote and included in the Ease package, it is
because it allows regression testing. I had 261 addresses with the
associated ruleset in the input file. The output was in tbl(1) format
and shows the input along with the output triplet (Address, Host,
Mailer).

I used it to test major changes to rulesets, and see if any of the
addresses that were working before the change broke because of the change.

Unfortunately, it called sendmail once for each rule/address
combination, and it took a long time to go thru all of the addresses.
I wanted to write a perl script that would start up sendmail once, and
pump the address in, and snarf the results out. Never did....

I had so many addresses because I had decnet, uucp, appletalk, IBM
RSCS, etc. mailers (many with broken configuration files), and I did
my best to changed all outgoing return addresses to be domain-style
with no "!", "%", or "::" characters in them.

I also tried to handle all sorts of bogus addressing modes people would try. 
(e.g. a::b!c, a::a::b@c.com, D3::D4::u1!user@machine.decnet,
D2::user%m1.decnet, "MRGATE::\"A1::SMITH JOE\""@somewhere.com)
 
It was character building.... :-)

The regression test is part of the Ease package which has been posted.
I look forward to the perl version....
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: seal@leonardo.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (David Seal)
Subject: Does anyone know how to send mail anonymously?
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 22:15:14 GMT

Is there any way to send a mail message without one's username being
included in the postmark (i.e. the header at the top of the message)?

thanks.
d
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert)
Subject: Re: sendmail locked, sync:no such user
Organization: Northern Illinois University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:51:43 GMT

In article <1352000003@igc.apc.org> Charlie Rosenberg <crosenberg@igc.apc.org> writes:
>
>I noticed a load on the system and found sendmail running five 
>different times.  syslog shows many of the locked messages listed
>below.  If I bring TCP/IP down, it will kill sendmail of course and
>when it starts it back up again things are back to normal.

  In that case the "locked" messages are just messages already being
processed by another sendmail.  This is not a problem.  If, after bringing
sendmail down, there are still locked messages on restart, then you have
some lock files that need deletion.  However, with the symptoms you
describe, this seems not to be the problem.

>I also wondered what causes the inetd error listed below.

><27>Aug 17 11:38:14 inetd[12454]: getpwnam: sync: No such user

 Sounds like a bad entry in /etc/inetd.conf .  Perhaps you need to read
the documentation more clearly.

Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: rhoward@matd.gatech.edu (Robert L. Howard)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: IDA snedmail config (plus opinion question)
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:00:57 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute

I took the following advice:

drew@ophelia.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt) writes:

>My advice : if you can, don't use stock sendmail.  Use IDA sendmail, with the 
>M4 configuration files. Your life will be much simpler. 

Now I am knee deep into this and am soliciting some opinions.  I
have a "mail server" plus a number of "workstations".  Mail addresses
are of the form user@domain.name (with no hostname involved).  Do
I

a) turn off sendmail (daemon) on the workstations since nobody 
   should be sending to user@host, or

b) run sendmail configured to immediately deliver all incoming
   mail to the "mail server" ?

(I feel like (b) is the best as all mail eventually gets to 
where it was probably intended to go.  I would entertain reasoning
as to why (a) is better.)

Given the I do (b) and assuming this type of configuration is 
pretty popular, would anyone mind sending me samples of some M4
files for each of the "mail server" and the "workstation"?  I
suspect the latter would be the most useful since it should be 
simple enough to port easily.  The "mail server" M4 file might 
be unique enough that I don't benefit much from following the
samples.  Well anyway, most any input would be appreciated...

Thanks in advance,
Robert
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: swhite@tybse1.uucp (William C. "Spike" White)
Subject: sendmail "reply: read error" messages
Organization: Tybrin Corporation, Shalimar, FL
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 02:41:56 GMT

   Have you ever seen this sendmail error?  What causes it?  It shows up 
periodically in our sendmail log file.  I'm running sendmail version 5.59
on an AT&T 3B2/600G (SVR3.2).  A friend of mine is seeing the same messages
in his log files (386/SCO Unix). 

Aug 14 05:28:50 [9140] DUNCAN@eglin.af.mil... reply: read error

   Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert)
Subject: Re: unparseable date
Organization: Northern Illinois University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 02:33:49 GMT

In article <iacovou.714186107@myria> iacovou@myria.cs.umn.edu (Danny Iacovou) writes:
>  I am using sendmail 5.65c, and I have noticed a strange "error" in my
>  syslog. The error takes the form of (although it does vary):
>
>	arpatounix: unparseable date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 2:14:59 MET DST

You can treat it as an informational message which tells you that someone
is sending mail with dates not matching RFC822.

The mail is still delivered normally.  If you really don't like the
message, you should be able to comment out the code which creates in
(in arpadate.c).

Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: paul@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Paul Pomes - UofIllinois CSO)
Subject: Re: Is it possible to start sendmail from inetd?
Reply-To: Paul-Pomes@uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:51:54 GMT

zee@sun006.research.ptt.nl (Siebren van der Zee) writes:

>Does anyone run sendmail from inetd? I had hoped a line in /etc/inetd.conf like
>	"smtp stream tcp wait root /usr/lib/sendmail sendmail"
>would do the trick, but sendmail terminated with exit status 73,
>and the sending sendmail complaints: "sendmail[2213]: AA02211:
>SYSERR: net hang reading from <host>: Connection timed out during
>greeting wait with <host>". Is there a good reason why vendors don't
>start sendmail this way in the first place? Is it possible at all?
>(I'm running SunOS 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 with sendmail LD_ patched sendmail)

You'll need to add the -bs flag so that sendmail will use stdin/stdout.
Running from inetd requires a separate cron entry to run the queue.  Here's
what I've used in my tests:

/etc/inetd.conf
smtp	stream	tcp	nowait	daemon	/usr/lib/sendmail	sendmail -bs

/etc/crontab
35 * * * *	root /usr/lib/sendmail -q

/pbp
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: zee@sun006.research.ptt.nl (Siebren van der Zee)
Subject: Is it possible to start sendmail from inetd?
Organization: PTT Research, Groningen
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:02:40 GMT

Does anyone run sendmail from inetd? I had hoped a line in /etc/inetd.conf like
	"smtp stream tcp wait root /usr/lib/sendmail sendmail"
would do the trick, but sendmail terminated with exit status 73,
and the sending sendmail complaints: "sendmail[2213]: AA02211:
SYSERR: net hang reading from <host>: Connection timed out during
greeting wait with <host>". Is there a good reason why vendors don't
start sendmail this way in the first place? Is it possible at all?
(I'm running SunOS 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 with sendmail LD_ patched sendmail)

	Siebren van der Zee.
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: dan@dribble.c-mols.siu.edu (Dan Ellison)
Subject: Re: sendmail 5.65 and sendmail-IDA for SCO UNIX
Organization: Southern Illinois University - Carbondale, IL (SIU-C)
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:16:42 GMT

I've seen quite a bit of discussion on the net these last few days
regarding the sendmail package distributed with SCO UNIX and the
merits of using it vs. using mmdf.  I just wanted to let everyone
know that I have sendmail 5.65 and sendmail-IDA both ported to
SCO and they are available via anonymous ftp on dribble.c-mols.siu.edu
in the sco-ports directory for the grabbing.  I presonally prefer
the IDA sendmail functionality but it's up to the admin person
to make the choice.

Enjoy.
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.sys.dec,comp.unix.ultrix
From: karl@grebyn.com (Karl A. Nyberg)
Subject: Strange "From somewhere!user@host.domain" lines
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 12:57:46 GMT

I've recnetly changed my sendmail.cf to take advantage of our new PPP
connection and as a result, our incoming MX domain mail over uucp (we're
only doing outgoing using PPP at the moment) comes in and gets it's "From "
(and Return-Path) line(s) modified with a "somewhere!" put on the front of
it.  The only place I can even find a string with the value somewhere in it
is in /bin/rmail, where the string there is "remote from somewhere".

Hopefully this will be Overtaken By Events (OBE) when we start receiving
incoming mail via SMTP, but it's kind of annoying at the moment.

We don't have this problem with mail coming directly from other uucp sites.
Machine is VAX/Ultrix 4.0.

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From: henrich@crs.cl.msu.edu (Chuck Henrich)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: How do I make sendmail respect quotas?
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:48:05 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Michigan State University


I am attempting to make sendmail bounce mail messages if a user
has more than the alloted qutoa space taken up.  But sendmail seems
to ignore the quota and receive mail at will.  Is there any way
to make sendmail bounce mail on a full quota?

-Crh
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert)
Subject: Re: Can sendmail read sun's sendmail.cf directly?
Organization: Northern Illinois University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 13:29:34 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.052822.22606@iti.gov.sg> jameslow@iti.gov.sg (James Low (RC)) writes:
>Hi, I have just downloaded sendmail-5.67 in order to implement something.
>However, I would like to know how much work is needed.  Namely, can I 
>use the sendmail.cf files that are found on the Sun's OS 4.1.X w/o modification?
>I have done a few changes to these .cf files and will be terrible if I have
>to start doing the same on new .cf files.

  The major differences which may cause problems in using the SunOS distributed
'sendmail.cf' versions are:

     $%x	won't work on 5.67.  SunOS config files use this to
		identify hosts on your local network.  It might not
		be important, and possibly may just cause the 'ddn'
		mailer to be used rather than the 'tcp' mailer.

    $=x		On 5.67 only single token class matches are permitted.
		This may cause problems with $=w (recognize local host).
		You won't know till you try it.

     $m         SunOS version automatically define this to be your NIS
		domain name.  You may need to add a 'Dm' line to define
		your domain.

     ${ .. $}   No support for NIS lookups during processing.  Also won't
		use your NIS aliases map.

>I also saw a IDA+sendmail or something like that.  What is that?

  This will come closer to behaving like the SunOS sendmail.  Also has
many other nifty features.  You'll have to pick it up and read the
documentation to see the full picture.
From: Charlie Rosenberg <crosenberg@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Date: 17 Aug 92 11:23 PDT
Subject: sendmail locked, sync:no such user
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1352000003:000:464
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!crosenberg    Aug 17 11:23:00 1992


I noticed a load on the system and found sendmail running five 
different times.  syslog shows many of the locked messages listed
below.  If I bring TCP/IP down, it will kill sendmail of course and
when it starts it back up again things are back to normal.

I also wondered what causes the inetd error listed below.

<23>Aug 17 11:37:31 sendmail[12453]: AA12265: locked
<27>Aug 17 11:38:14 inetd[12454]: getpwnam: sync: No such user

Sorry to be such a pest here!

Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: karl@grebyn.com (Karl A. Nyberg)
Subject: Perl Package to test Sendmail.cf?
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:08:07 GMT

I remember at one time using a Perl package to automate testing of
sendmail.cf files where you put in a file of addresses and it would return
for you the mailers that would be used to send to those addresses.  I can't
even remember the name of the package to ask archie about it.  Can anybody
provide a pointer or a name?  Thanks.

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: jch@rdg.dec.com (John Haxby)
Subject: Re: workaround for 4K buffer on most sendmails
Keywords: sendmail header size
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 08:33:30 GMT

Hmmm, I think I may be responsible for this problem :-)

The `correct' solution is to fix all the sendmail's out there to
remove the limitation on number of recipients.  This, however,
is a pipe dream.

A slightly different solution (proposed by Paul Vixie and used
at the Palo Alto gateway) is simply to truncate the number of
recipients: this has the undesirable feature that some of the recipients
are lost but the highly desirable feature that systems which
receive mail via Palo Alto don't get broken and Paul gets to
keep his knee-caps.

Yet a third solution, which can be implemented by a shell
script that is run immediately before the mail queue is processed
(which means that all mail must be queued), is to move over-long
recipient lists on a gateway machine into the body of the message:
this way, a determined user can still reply to all the recipients and
no sendmails get broken.

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: casper@fwi.uva.nl (Casper H.S. Dik)
Subject: Re: Is it possible to start sendmail from inetd?
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:06:31 GMT

zee@sun006.research.ptt.nl (Siebren van der Zee) writes:

>Does anyone run sendmail from inetd? I had hoped a line in /etc/inetd.conf like
>	"smtp stream tcp wait root /usr/lib/sendmail sendmail"
>would do the trick, but sendmail terminated with exit status 73,
>and the sending sendmail complaints: "sendmail[2213]: AA02211:
>SYSERR: net hang reading from <host>: Connection timed out during
>greeting wait with <host>". Is there a good reason why vendors don't
>start sendmail this way in the first place? Is it possible at all?
>(I'm running SunOS 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 with sendmail LD_ patched sendmail)

>	Siebren van der Zee.
There are several errors in your inetd.conf line:

        - sendmail should be started once for each incoming connection (nowait)
        - sendmail must be started in smtp mode (sendmail -bs)
 
The right line is:
    smtp stream tcp nowait root /usr/lib/sendmail sendmail -bs


There are several reasons to run sendmail in daemon mode:

	- need extra cron job to run queue
	- an idle process doesn't cost much 
	- it is more expensive to start sendmail from scratch each n minutes
	  to run the queue than it is to wake up a sleeping daemon
	- it is more expensive to start a new sendmail process for
	  an incoming job than it is to fork() the current sendmail
	  process.


All in all, you would be saving 200K swap space but it would cost
you more disk I/O and CPU time.

Casper
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
From: iacovou@myria.cs.umn.edu (Danny Iacovou)
Subject: unparseable date
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 01:01:47 GMT


  Hello;

  I am using sendmail 5.65c, and I have noticed a strange "error" in my
  syslog. The error takes the form of (although it does vary):

	arpatounix: unparseable date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 2:14:59 MET DST


  Besides that the date is unparseable, what does this mean? Did this
  mail ever get to its destination? Did I do something wrong in the
  config. of sendmail at compile time? or is my sendmail.cf brain dead?


   
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From: pascoe@rocky.gte.com (Dave Pascoe)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: UUCP mailer error message
Date: 22 Aug 92 19:54:19 GMT
Organization: GTE/SCSD
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


I have just installed Sendmail-5.65c+IDA-1.4.4 on a Sun running SunOS
4.1.1.  While testing UUCP mail delivery I encountered this error
message:

Aug 22 15:47:12 rocky sendmail[2158]: AA02156: SYSERR: No `!' in UUCP
envelope "from" address! (pascoe): Bad file number

I can't seem to figure out why this error gets reported.  I've tried
even connecting directly to port 25 and sending mail with a from
address containing a ! and it still reports the same error.

Any ideas?
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail