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From: mayor@ic17.umeeng (Cam "You didn't see me!" Mayor)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Do dreams hurt?
Date: 7 Apr 92 02:59:50 GMT
Reply-To: mayor@ic17.umeeng
Organization: Sun Microsystems

In article 2480@keele.keele.ac.uk, csz55@seq1.keele.ac.uk (Christopher Wrigley) writes:
>From article <1992Apr> (Cam "You didn't see me!" Mayor):
>
>> up saying something like "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA", for I had just
>given a
>> good solid elbow to the windowsill by my bed.  Damn did that hurt!
>
>> Ps.  I have noticed before that I do things in my sleep, but it is
>hard to
>> observe because you must *wake up* while doing them.
>
>I find this very interesting. Now, it seems to me that you interpreted a
>blow to the _head_. You woke up and found you hit the _windowsill.
>Hmmmn, this got me thinking.  Now, if you had hit the _pillow, instead..
>would the dream have interpreted that as.... the stomach, say?
>It opens up an interesting observation. No doubt, you would have woken
>up as soon as your elbow hit the windowsill... but the image left
>in your brain was most certainly a picture of hitting a head. BUT, if
>you immediately woke up, how could the image of the hitting his _head
>be part of the dream? Is it possible the the dream continues on even
>after you are most definitely awake?
>

Good question, Chris.  I know exactly what you mean.  I often wonder about
the speed with which one's mind can manufacture dream images based 
upon the external stimulus being received.  
  Although this is still questionable based on the above, I (being 
intimately close to the circumstance :) should mention that in the dream
where I "elbowed the head/windowsill", there was premeditation.  In the
dream, there were people chasing me, and one was catching up.  Under
quick consideration of the situation, the guy's head was at the right level
for my elbow...that's why I intended to elbow his head.  Perhaps my
perception of hitting his head came from the "inertia" of my thoughts about
what was about to happen.
  ie. I "saw" my elbow going towards his head.  At the moment of contact, I
hit something solid.  I woke up going "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA", but at the transition
point, I equated solid contact with the head, for that was where my elbow
was going.

  Still, you ask a VERY good question...I have thought of this much over the
years.

cam

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Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: justin@mik.uky.edu (Justin Sullivan)
Subject: Re: Dreams & Predictions
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 12:22:26 GMT
X-Bytes: 

Poontang writes
  
> And after all this, I decided to place this dream in the "current 
> events" category. And why?
> Because I have an overabundance of empathy for my fellow man. I'm 
> feeling the extreme pressure of poverty, and I know others are as 
> well. There are quite a few reasons this dream is "current" to me.

Poverty? You too, eh? This University is trying to starve me to death.. :)
  
> Anyhow, I think understanding one's own dreams must come with 
> understanding one's own self.

Very good.. :) Why do you think everyone comes around and says: "What does this  
dream mean?" They don't understand themselves at all. If they did, they would  
KNOW what their dreams meant.

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From: gecko@zooid.guild.org (GECKO)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject:  IS IS WRITTEN...
Date: 13 Apr 92 07:36:58 GMT


       Bat Rastard writes:
> 
> 
>Well, it's not exaclt impossible, but what happens is that 
>the writing changes.  If you remember, try reading something 
>during a dream, looking away for a second, and then 
>re-reading it.  More often than not, (possibly always, I'm 
>not really certain on this point), the writing will have 
>changed.  In fact, this is one of the recommended methods 
>of reality-checking during an experience you suspect is a 
>dream.  Every time I've remembered to try it during a dream, 
>the writing HAS changed. 

        Ah, yes.  Once I did this in a dream to see if it was a
dream or not.  I read a few lines from a chemistry textbook, glanced
away briefly, and looked again, and the text had indeed changed,
thus I knew I was dreaming.

        Goddammit!  I KNOW I had a lucid dream last night, I clearly
recall the realization, and yet I cannot remember what happened.
How bizarre.  How sad...

         By the by, does anyone know what dreams of TORNADOES mean?
I have had many vivid nightmares of tornadoes in the past year.

         That is all...

                                                - GECKO

        "He that breaks a thing to find out what it is
         has left the path of knowledge."
                                         - Gandalf the Grey

gecko@zooid.org.guild
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: frank@owlnet.rice.edu (Franklin Tae-Sung Kang)
Subject: Watery dreams
Organization: Rice University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 07:28:48 GMT



I've had several dreams of a similar nature recently.  They all had
to do with the ocean.

1)  I was out in the tropics or something - clear blue waters, white sand
    and the works.  I was out in the ocean surfing.  Suddenly, this 
    massive wave picks me up, it felt like it was a mile high.  Although
    I was scared, I distinctly remember the wave being smooth and
    having an incredible shade of clear blue.  

2)  I was on a rocky coastline.  The waters were dark and somewhat
    ominous.  The water was agitated, yet it was still smooth.
    I was in scuba diving equipment with some other people. 
    Feeling of dread and foreboding throught the dream - 
    as if something might rise out of the water.

3)  I was driving on a road along the ocean in a semi-truck.
    The road ended, so I went into a house nearby.  Suddenly,
    a tornado came from nowhere  - it shreiked through the
    house and tried to blow me out.  When it was over, the 
    house and the shoreline was a mess.

All these dreams were small segments which changed to other dreams,
but for some reason, I remember these very well.  I can still see
the imagery.  These dreams are related as to the presence of the
ocean and my uneasy feeling.  Surely, my subconscious is trying
to say something, but what it is, I have no idea.  Anyone care
to speculate?

Frank
-- 
Frank T. Kang-------------------------------------------------frank@rice.edu
"...if there was a doubling of the current engineering enrollment-the growth 
rate of the economy would rise 0.5% a year.  By contrast, if law school
enrollment doubled, the growth rate would fall 0.3% annually."  BW 4/6/92
From: wdechent@usenet.umr.edu (William L. Dechent)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Problem solving
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:38:16 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri -- Rolla


   I've heard stories about people keeping tablets of paper and pen by their
bed so if they woke up in the night with a solution (not necessarily something
they learned in a dream) they could write it down.  I am a chemistry grad
student, and I think it would be nice to be able to do this. However, my
dreams have never helped me in scientific matters; rather, they have helped
me tremendously in areas outside of chemistry, especially in the lines of
social issues (sorry for the vagueness, but I want to keep this short).  I
didn't get what I was shooting for, but I appreciate what I've learned
from this (more insight into social issues gained from dreams).

wdechent@clciris.chem.umr.edu
From: tdlynch@unix1.tcd.ie (The Dunster)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Dreaming, talking, replying!
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:09:14 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin


	Last Friday night I had the misfortune(!!) of overindulging
in the College bar, and as a result ended up spending the night in 
a friends house. Later, having regained my sobriety, I retired to
bed, whereupon I engaged in a thoroughly riveting conversation with a
friend, lying in the bed opposite. Overcome with exhaustion, we soon
dropped off. During the night, I dreamt my Mum had enrolled me in a
course 2 weeks before my exams, to which i reacted by saying:
		"I'm not doing that!"
Just at that instant, I felt myself coming out of the dream, hearing
Ann in the bed opposite saying:
		"Sorry, Donagh, what did you say?"
to which I replied:
		"Don't mind me Ann, I'm just talking in my sleep"
	"Ok, goodnight"

	The following morning, as I awoke to greet a spliting head-
ache, I referred Ann to our intimate experience only to find out
that she recalled none of it! We both admitted that we frequently
talked in our sleep, although perhaps my brain was playing tricks 
with me! 
	I'll be interested to see what the rest of you out in
Netland think! So reply by detaching the coupon below(!!):

		The Dunster...


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Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Dreams can hurt!!
From: hcollings@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: 8 Apr 92 11:41:23 CST
Organization: University of Missouri-Kansas City

In article <jody.20@ace.acadiau.ca>, jody@ace.acadiau.ca (JODY DUNBAR) writes:
> Last night, I had a really strange dream. I can't remember any of it except 
> for one part... I was sitting in a chair and saw a big axe (humungous 
> machetti type) coming at me. I dove out of the chair and woke up. I guess I 
> dove right out of my bed! I landed on my equalizer and got four large 
> scratches on my leg from the dials! Ouch!! I'm wearing tight jeans right 
> now, and it doesn't feel too good! Can anybody explain to me what this dream 
> meant? I think it means that I should stay away from sharp objects today!
> 							Confusedly,
> 							Jody Dunbar




Was the axe coming for your head, your leg, your arm, or another place?  Do
those really tight jeans normally feel really good?  Does it mean to you that
dull blunt objects may be Okay today?
From: mayor@ic10.umeeng (Cam "You didn't see me!" Mayor)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Reading in Dreams
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:41:40 GMT
Reply-To: mayor@ic10.umeeng
Organization: Sun Microsystems

In article 3008@darwin.ntu.edu.au, r9h@pandanus.cs.ntu.edu.au (Ecto the Green) writes:
>I read something in a dream once, but It wasn't something that I wrote, It
>was a pamphlet (or flyer) someone was holding in the seat in front of me on
>a bus. 
>
>It had a picture of an elm tree overhanging a lake, with its yellow
>leaves falling into the lake, making ripples, all basked in the light of a
>beautiful sunset.  The inscription wrote :
>
> ' Do not judge the falling of the leaves by the ripples on the lake. '
>
>I think I can understand an interpretation of this little 'moral' but
>if anyone else would like to have a go and send me their interpretation, I 
>am more than interested in finding out what you have to say.
>

:)
Hmmm.  "Don't judge a book by it's cover" is not quite it...
Don't be fooled by falseness. Judge everything on it's own merit.  The
ripples on the lake have nothing to do with the falling of the leaves,
similarily, don't judge a person (or thing) by something exterior to them.

Maybe I haven't made much sense here, but I really liked the dream inscription!
Thanks for sharing that!

cam.
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Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: mayor@ic14.umeeng (Cam "You didn't see me!" Mayor)
Subject: Re: Dreaming, talking, replying!
Reply-To: mayor@ic14.umeeng
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 03:29:44 GMT

  When I was on a national volunteer program years ago (Katimavik),
the people that I lived with started to like coming to wake me up
in the morning.  Apparently, when told to wake up,etc, I would sit
up in my bed tell whoever it was something that made little sense
but seemed really important to me at the time.  I would then lay
down again for a few minutes...and when waking up the second time,
I wouldn't remember talking to them at all.  I still don't remember
doing this.

cam
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Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: kapitan@cs.uwp.edu (Andrea Kapitan)
Subject: Re: dreams about exes
Keywords:  dreaming about the exes
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 02:05:25 GMT

Yes, I also have dreamed of different ones on different occasions. The 
initial reaction when I wake up is always - wow I dreamed about him, and I
panic a little; but when I examine it further it usually has little to
do with them, and more with where I'm at, at the time. They are more
catalysts, and symbolic actually than themselves.
-andrea



-- 
kapitan@cs.uwp.edu

If only GOD would give me some clear sign! Like making a large deposit
in my name at a Swiss bank...
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: greg@irl.ise.ufl.edu (Greg O'Rear)
Subject: Re: Reading in Dreams
Reply-To: greg@ise.ufl.edu (Greg O'Rear)
Organization: Industrial Research Lab - Univ. of Florida
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 14:22:38 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.184140.16633@ccu.umanitoba.ca> mayor@ic10.umeeng writes:
>In article 3008@darwin.ntu.edu.au, r9h@pandanus.cs.ntu.edu.au (Ecto the Green) writes:
>> ' Do not judge the falling of the leaves by the ripples on the lake. '
>>
>Hmmm.  "Don't judge a book by it's cover" is not quite it...
>Don't be fooled by falseness. Judge everything on it's own merit.  The
>ripples on the lake have nothing to do with the falling of the leaves,
>similarily, don't judge a person (or thing) by something exterior to them.

Or perhaps, "Don't judge an action by its reaction" or "others reaction to it."
I quite like it as well.
--
Greg O'Rear
Industrial and Systems Engineering, University of Florida
orear@ise.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: tamm@cs.uwp.edu (Ernst Tamm)
Subject: Re: Reading in Dreams
Keywords: creativity
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:53:11 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.220840.3716@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> ...@cs.utexas.edu:ibmaus!auschs!elman.austin.ibm.com!lkoh writes:
>
>> Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
>> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 199> 

>I seem to always be very creative in my dreams, whereas I am not in 
>reality....for instance, i recall choreagraphing dance combinations,
>writing songs, and designing clothes, all of which would
>be much more difficult to do in real life, although not impossible....
>they are simply easier in my dreams.
>
>and i feel pretty sure that *I* am creating these things, and that they
>are not just things that i may have glimpsed or heard that day and
>don't remember.
>
>if i create all these things in my dreams,  then would somebody
>explain why i don't in real life??
>  
>Lisa Koh
>
       

       Well, Lisa, I don't claim to be a professional, but something tells me
       that these ideas are your original ideas, and can be credited to you
       if you indeed cannot remember seeing anything like them in "real life".

       A possible explanation for being able to dream these routines up and 
       not be able to do it in real life....well, the brain does operate much
       more efficiently while one is asleep....not nearly as many distractions
       from the outside world. I would venture to guess that if your brain is
       capable of such masterpieces while you're sleeping, then it is capable 
       while you are awake. Maybe it would just take MORE TIME .  

       In any case, do whatever you can do to remember what the 'dream routines'       are like. Then if people ask you where you got your ideas, just tell them       you "dreamt them up".....

							    -Ernie Tamm
From: mayor@ic10.umeeng (Cam "You didn't see me!" Mayor)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: lucidity on trash tv
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:55:29 GMT
Reply-To: mayor@ic10.umeeng
Organization: Sun Microsystems


  I woke up too early today.  I then sat around watching cartoons and
talk shows for about an hour and a half.  Today, of all days, Jenny
Jones (a trash sensationalist talk show host for those of you across
the puddle) had a 'dream interpreter' on her show.  That's what they
called her, but basically all she did was talk about how being aware
(lucid) in your dreams is possible, and how it was all up to our 
personal wills (strength and weakness) to decide how we act in our
dreams.  Unfortunately, all people seemed to want to know were the
same Junior high questions of "if I die in my dream, will I wake up
dead" and "if I dreamed about having sex with a certain man, do you
think I should".
  Don't get me wrong :), I usually turn the tv off if JJ comes on tv.
the day starts weird...

cam
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From: sleibowitz@hamp.hampshire.edu (Smiling Wolf)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Do dreams hurt?
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:04:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: hamp.1992Apr6.140415.1
Organization: Hampshire College

I vividly remember having a dream once where someone shot me in th back with
a futuristic star-wars-esque gun.  The sensation was one of the most
excrutiatingly painful it has ever been my misfortune to experience.  When I
awoke (a few seconds after), the pain was slowly fading to a dull ache, which
persisted for somewhat less than an hour.  I could find no external cause for
the sensation (nothing had landed hard on my spine in my sleep).

Has anyone else ever experienced "real" pain in a dream that could not be 
attributed to outside sources?  (Please e-mail me privately with results, as
I read this list very infrequently).

-- 
					Your humble servant,
					    Smiling Wolf

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From: mayor@ic14.umeeng (Cam "You didn't see me!" Mayor)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Reading in Dreams
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:03:01 GMT
Reply-To: mayor@ic14.umeeng
Organization: Sun Microsystems

In article kdsnlIa00UzxA4GGBM@andrew.cmu.edu, dh4j+@andrew.cmu.edu (David O Hunt) writes:
>I've read (somewhere) that it's impossible to read writing in dreams, yet I've
>been able to.
>
>Any comments...
>

I often read in dreams.  It's usually pretty important stuff, also.  Unfortunately,
I can never seem to remember what it was that it said when I wake up. 

cam.

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From: kapitan@cs.uwp.edu (Andrea Kapitan)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: What a Stupid Dream
Date: 7 Apr 92 02:27:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: uwm.1992Apr7.022734.14744
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside

In article <1992Apr4.041013.28415@cs.mcgill.ca> jerry@cs.mcgill.ca (Gerald (Jerry) KUCH) writes:
>The other night I had a really ghastly two part howler of a dream.  It's
>memorable for its sheer stupidity, and I happened across this group today
>and thought that it might get a laugh or two if I were to post it.  This one
>really did happen though...believe it...or not.  Ok, no more Jack Palance...
>here goes...
>
>Part I:  I was sitting in a chair in what seemed to be a cafeteria.  In
>         front of me, standing on the table was this creature about two
>	 feet tall whose body appeared to be made up of a powdered sugar
>	 coated, giant jelly donut.  It had somewhat repulsive doughy limbs.
>	 Anyway, instead of jelly, this thing contained bright yellow
>	 Kraft macaroni and cheese that oozed from the little holes in its
>	 side as it energetically mocked me for not knowing what the
>	 Hoare Axioms were....
>
	your teacher???????
>Part II: I was engaged to Barbara Bush.
	and?

-andrea

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kapitan@cs.uwp.edu

If only GOD would give me some clear sign! Like making a large deposit
in my name at a Swiss bank...
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From: djk@Nitro.CtEdge.COM
Newsgroups: alt.flame,alt.politics.homosexuality
Subject: Re: I'm not your man...
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 13:46:29 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: NMS&Systems Engineering

dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber) writes:

> Your first statement was a fact.  Your second statement was your own bigotted
> take on that fact.
> 
> 
> Clever...
> 
> FWA


OOOOOOOOOPS!! - You forgot to say 'racist biggoted' and you did
not call him a nazi or compare him to Clayton or Artimus!!!

Improper use of those power-words is to be avoided!!

-djk

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From: lefty@apple.com (Lefty)
Newsgroups: alt.flame,alt.politics.homosexuality,alt.sex
Subject: Re: Regrets
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:06:10 GMT
Organization: Our Lady of Heavy Artillery

In article <jgeb6oc@fido.asd.sgi.com>, dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber) writes:
> 
> Come on Daniel, you can do better than this...

What in the world would possibly lead you to this conclusion?  It seems to
me that he's doing the very best he can.

--
Lefty (lefty@apple.com)
C:.M:.C:., D:.O:.D:.
From: lefty@apple.com (Lefty)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: It IS OK _NOT_ to like K e n!!!
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:41:55 GMT
Organization: Our Lady of Heavy Artillery

In article <*s5Hf!*e6@cs.psu.edu>, krobinsn@carn-dum.endor.cs.psu.edu (Kenneth J
Robinson) writes:
>
>-Only K e n has spaces in his sig.

Also between his ears.

--
Lefty (lefty@apple.com)
C:.M:.C:., D:.O:.D:.
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