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From: patrick@rio-grande.is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Patrick Humphrey's evilness
Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 06:08:58 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.012442.6664@ncsu.edu> dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:

 [.. article from alt.sex,alt.sex.bondage,alt.society.anarchy ..]

Yeah, fancy that -- I wonder how it got over to alt.evil?  Probably the work
of NCSU's heir to Rasmussen, if my guess is right.  :-)

 Patrick "get yer fat black ass down here" Humphrey writes:

 >sh30443@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Shiva the Destoyer) writes:
 >>rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:
 >>>imran@mbcl.rutgers.edu writes:

 >>> [... article about mass rape committed in Bosnia ...] 



 >>>>	I hope this article makes you uncomfortable.  I hope this article
 >>>> makes you act.

 >>> You bet.  I'm gonna go rape somebody.

 >> I have *NEVER* flamed anyone, in ANY forums.  Nor am I a particularly
 >> righteous or religious person, but you have stepped beyond tolerable 
 >> boundaries, and I hope you were either kidding, or go kill yourself 
 >> because otherwise your life is worthless.

 > Do us all a favor -- get a dictionary and look up the word "sarcasm".  
 > Let us know what you think it means.

 Here's another example of Patrick Humphrey's evilness -- he
 defends the remarks of another poster who pokes fun at an 
 article about mass rape in Bosnia.  What kind of depraved
 person could defend such remarks?  Does the thought of
 mass rape seem funny to you, Humpty?  

No, but then you knew that much already.  I see you purposely misread who
was posting what, just so you'd have an excuse (no matter how nonsensical) to
flame me.  (Shiva was the one getting bent out of shape over Ron's painfully
obvious tongue-in-cheek remark, and my comment was directed at him -- but I
know, you can't let little details like that get in the way of your crusade
to prove how "evil" I am.  I'll say one thing for you, DOD -- you're doing
an incredible job of proving how pathetic *you* are, when you deliberately
lie about my actions just so you can flame me and think you're somehow
better than I am.  You're not evil -- you're just plain *stupid*.  There's a
vast difference between the two.)



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From: matmcinn@nuscc.nus.sg (Brett McInnes)
Subject: Capital Punishment.
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:22:22 GMT


A country the size of the USA should be able to sustain 50,000 executions
annually for an indefinite period. Probably 100,000 would be desirable
initially to eliminate serious offenders in prisons, to deal with
particularly unpleasant slums, etc. In the long run, it might be necessary
to enforce catch limits as criminals become an endangered species.
From: cak10@po.CWRU.Edu (Corinne A. Kelly)
Newsgroups: alt.evil
Subject: Re: Purpose of alt.evil -- What is evil?
Date: 14 Dec 1992 10:39:53 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cak10@po.CWRU.Edu (...c...)
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In a previous article, mrmach@walker2.hu.mtu.edu (MARK ROMAN MACH) says:


>
>    All:
>
>        Is there a such thing as evil?
i believe so.

>        Is evil determined by the values of each culture?  Or is there
>        some universal law (being?) that determines what is evil and
>        what is not (such that when something is evil in one place and
>        time, it is evil in all other places and times)?
i would say that evil is determined by the reality system that you "buy
into."  Since I do not believe in absolutes (absolute truth/evil/goodness,
etc.) i say that there is no universal law over what is evil, and what is
not.

>        Would an evil person consider themself evil?
by my standards, no.  an evil person is someone who rejects our system of
reality, and lives in their own.  they are consistent in what they do, and
do not think that they are doing anything wrong.  An example of this type
of person would be Iago, from Othello.  He lives in a completely different
system of interacting with others.  He is consistantly manipulative,
and hence, evil.  

>        Is anything morally or ethically repulsive considered evil?
something that is morally praiseworthy is good.  obviously, something that
is morally repulsive (or un-praiseworthy) must be evil. (unless it is 
amoral, but let's not get into that)
if we turn the question around (is evil anything morally repulsive), 
i think i could answer it better than as it stands.
i believe that you cannot make moral judgements on someone who
is "truly evil."  You cannot call them immoral, because it is not
fair...they completely reject the grounds by which you would judge them.

morality stems from rationality.  evil is not rational morality.  


>-- 
>Mark R. Mach, mrmach@mtu.edu
>
tnx...
                                                  
                    .c.



                                  
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c             "If life were not worth living," said the preacher, 
o             "'Twould in suicide have on pleasant feature."
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From: hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu (DOG BASEBALL!!!)
Newsgroups: alt.evil
Subject: Re: This newsgroup is pathetic
Date: 12 Dec 92 23:05:56 GMT
Organization: Ministry of Information, Lower Volta.

Inscribed upon tablet <1992Dec12.215917.15751@ncsu.edu>, the mighty dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) records thusly:
::I think this newsgroup is filled with a bunch of pretentious 
::dorks.  "Evil"?  Don't be ridiculous.  None of you are "evil". 

	I never pretended to be.  However, there are times when I feel like
causing someone harm just for the sheer satisfaction of it.  Lots of people
do.  Also, someone opting to be evil or to perform acts which may safely be
assumed to be evil is fascinating.  
	You don't have to be evil to enjoy this group, but you wouldn't be
here if you weren't intrigued by it.

::Your descriptions of supposedly "evil" acts are boring and stupid.
::You're just fascinated with the idea of being "evil", but I
::bet none of you could even get up the courage to pull the 
::wings off a fly.  Wimps.  

	<doink> <doink> <AIEE!>  But seriously, I doubt you're going to find
too many self-confessed slashers or rapists or other forms of violent evil
here, which appears to be the crowd you're looking for.  I get the impression
that discussing the mindset of evil as well as what acts are patently done for
nothing else but evil gain is what this group does.  At least, that's what I'm
interested in.

::
::And then there are the "evil" dorks who post short, inane
::messages like "I'M EVIL, HA HA".  Is that supposed to impress
::anyone?  <yawn>.  That's grade-school buffoonery.  You're

	Agreed, but on what unmoderated groups do you _NOT_ find them?  Is
that silence I hear?  

::all a bunch of helpless Bambis. 

	And I assume you're the nasty hunter, right?  All right rambo, if you
want to torture small animals for some kind of twisted sexual perversity then
hell, I'm not there to stop you.  But just because your idea of evil
(apparently the rather violent kind) is different doesn't give you the right
to get all uppity.  The last thing we need on alt.evil is a "DARE YA"
attitude.  

	in other words, if you don't like it, go splooge off.


My, kids, wasn't that fun?
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Newsgroups: alt.evil,talk.abortion
From: patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Subject: Re: This newsgroup is pathetic
Summary: DOD *knows* pathetic.
Organization: Sorry, not until January 11. 
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 00:53:56 GMT

[For you folks in t.a, I thought I'd let y'all know what 1992's Poster Child
for Pathological Masochism is up to.  :-)  --PLH]  

In article <1992Dec12.215917.15751@ncsu.edu> dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
>I think this newsgroup is filled with a bunch of pretentious 
>dorks.  "Evil"?  Don't be ridiculous.  None of you are "evil". 
>Your descriptions of supposedly "evil" acts are boring and stupid.
>You're just fascinated with the idea of being "evil", but I
>bet none of you could even get up the courage to pull the 
>wings off a fly.  Wimps.  

This is truly worthy of Sheer Gut Blowout [tm], coming from someone who's
afraid to venture into certain newsgroups because *I* might say something
unkind to him.  So, DOD, why don't you tell everyone here about your whining
that I won't apologize to your lord and mentor?

>And then there are the "evil" dorks who post short, inane
>messages like "I'M EVIL, HA HA".  Is that supposed to impress
>anyone?  <yawn>.  That's grade-school buffoonery.  You're
>all a bunch of helpless Bambis. 

Apt imagery, there -- you've frozen up when caught in the glare of the
headlights so many times, we've come to expect it as a matter of course.
Don't you ever get tired of being repeatedly run over?

--PLH (this guy's funnier than Rasmussen could ever think of being)


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Subject: Re: Very evil
From: eclipse@netlink.cts.com (David Gallo)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 15:06:06 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

Most of the stuff I read on here is, in my own demented sense of humor, 
pretty funny. But that was sick... I am not saying you shouldn't be 
allowed to post it, but at least try to put in a warning... I don't know 
maybe I just lost control of myself for a minute there. Oh well...

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Newsgroups: alt.evil
From: mrmach@walker2.hu.mtu.edu (MARK ROMAN MACH)
Subject: Purpose of alt.evil -- What is evil?
Followup-To: alt.evil
Reply-To: mrmach@mtu.edu
Organization: CCLI, Michigan Technological University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 09:10:49 GMT

    Does any serious discussions about evil ever go on here?  My wife
had an interesting class (the Nature of Evil) that I sat in on a couple
of sessions of, and thought it was really interesting.

    I was hoping to see some similar discussions on here, but so far
I've seen more levity than genuine interest in evil.  Perhaps I can
throw out a couple of serious questions and see what kind of response
there is.

    Antichrist:

        What is it that makes an indian man who burns his wife to death
        evil?

        Do you know anything of the indian culture that would imply any
        evil in this act by those standards?  Or did you just feel it
        was evil by your standards?

    Mr. Holtsinger: 

        Why is being evil such a desirable trait?

        What is it that makes the ability to remove a flies wings a
        standard of evil?  Is this universally accepted as evil in all
        cultures?

    DOG BASEBALL!!!:  (Is that Mr. Baseball!!!, or can I call you Dog?  :)

        What is an act that is done for nothing else but evil gain?  What
        is evil gain?

    Fox (Shadoxx?):

        >if you consider yourself truly evil...........
        >out of all the beings in the multiverse
        >the most important should be YOU!!!!
        >don't ask me why.

        Why?  :)

    All:

        Is there a such thing as evil?

        What determines if something is evil?

        Is evil determined by the values of each culture?  Or is there
        some universal law (being?) that determines what is evil and
        what is not (such that when something is evil in one place and
        time, it is evil in all other places and times)?

        Would an evil person consider themself evil?

        Can evil exist without God?  (Is evil religiously based?)

        Is anything morally or ethically repulsive considered evil?



    Just some food for the sharks...  Dig in!

-- 
Mark R. Mach, mrmach@mtu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.evil
From: franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin)
Subject: Re: An Xmas Ditty
Keywords: Annoying jingles
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 12:50:30 GMT

In article <seaverw.86.0@columbia.dsu.edu> seaverw@columbia.dsu.edu (W. A. Seaver) writes:

>I'd like to buy the world a Coke
>Laced with cyanide.
>Drink a toast to Christmas days,
>And watch it slowly die.

Ummm... it doesn't rhyme very well... Or is that part of the poetic evil
behind it? In any case, I give this poem a thumbs down.
   Siskel and Shakespeare
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Newsgroups: alt.evil
From: jdtucker@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (John Daryl Tucker)
Subject: Re: This newsgroup is pathetic
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 06:19:50 GMT

>I think this newsgroup is filled with a bunch of pretentious 
>dorks.  "Evil"?  Don't be ridiculous.  None of you are "evil". 
>Your descriptions of supposedly "evil" acts are boring and stupid.
>You're just fascinated with the idea of being "evil", but I
>bet none of you could even get up the courage to pull the 
>wings off a fly.  Wimps.  

Wow.  This guy is evil!  Imagine all this bandwidth we're wasting by
replying to his message!  He's just trying to get a rise out of us.
Happens all the time in "different" newsgroups.

What's really evil is what will happen to you when I find you.  You don't
break up my less-than-serious newsgroups without retaliation.  Anybody have
this guy's address?  Please send it to me.  I have a perl script and a
thousand word document on the origin of the three-toed sloth.  I'll run my
program and it will send you it, one character at a time.


	    - Quixotic Jedi (a.k.a. Other Brother Daryl)



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From: nin2n@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Kami!!!)
Subject: Re: Purpose of alt.evil -- What is evil?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:09:18 GMT

	Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.


Xref: sparky alt.evil:3240 talk.abortion:52459
From: triley@weber.ucsd.edu (Tristan Riley)
Newsgroups: alt.evil,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: This newsgroup is pathetic
Date: 19 Dec 1992 16:57:16 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu

In article <Bz89Kr.9zJ@rice.edu> patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey) writes:
>In article <1992Dec13.233905.20904@ncsu.edu> dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
>>Patrick "get yer fat black ass down here" Humphrey writes:
>>
>>>dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
>>
>>>> I think this newsgroup is filled with a bunch of pretentious 
>>>> dorks.  "Evil"?  Don't be ridiculous.  None of you are "evil". 
>>
>>> This is truly worthy of Sheer Gut Blowout [tm], coming from someone who's
>>> afraid to venture into certain newsgroups because *I* might say something
>>> unkind to him.  
>>
>>Here we have a prime candidate for evilness: Patrick Humpty,
>>the sub-human who demanded that another poster "get their fat 
>>black ass down here".  People have confronted Humpty with 
>>the racist overtones of the filth that oozes out from his 
>>mouth, and yet he refuses to apologize for it.  He seems
>                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>You're so cute when you conveniently ignore the apology I posted within a
>couple of hours of making my statement.  As a matter of fact, I bet you have
>that article archived.  Isn't it interesting that you "forget" to also
>mention that I said it *once*, and apologized for it, and haven't repeated
>my mistake in the four months since -- yet you feel it's okay if the person
>at whom I directed my outburst posts that I'm a Klansman, and does it
>repeatedly?  That's what I like about you, DOD -- you're *so* predictable.
>
>>especially proud of his ability to get away with his racist 
>>attacks on others; he cackles, struts, and insults others 
>>whenever somebody objects to his language.   I said that 
>>no poster to alt.evil could be considered "evil"; I have 
>>to admit that I was wrong.  Patrick Humpty is the epitome 
>>of evil. 
>
>Good for him -- whoever you're babbling about, it's not me.  I'm about as
>evil as Captain Kangaroo.  You're not evil, either -- you're just terminally
>sleazy.  Saying that I attack others on a racial basis -- document your
>delirium or accept that you lied yet again.  I made one remark to Chaney, I
>apologized for it, end of story.  You will not make it my problem again.
>(If you want to completely destroy what little credibility you have left,
>though, be my guest.  Epitome of evil, indeed -- boy, are my friends going
>to achieve Sheer Gut Blowout over *that* remark.)
>
>>>Patrick "get yer fat black ass down here" Humphrey
>
>This is funny, too -- I've never posted this in a .sig, and you know it.
>Man, you have some *good* chemicals up there...
>
>--PLH (*this* is how I do a .sig, child -- and while we're at it, my wife
>*could* be thought of as slightly evil, but she doesn't like lutefisk any
>more than I do, so that rules her out as well...:-)
>
>
>
>-- 
>
why don't the two of you shoot it out to the death and shut the fuck
up already?


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From: BPHEINTZ@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU (BRADLEY P HEINTZ)
Subject: re:  The nature of man
Organization: Ancient Illuminated Seers of Bavaria
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:00:43 GMT
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In <1992Dec15.025803.309@scott.skidmore.edu> cmoore@scott.skidmore.edu writes:

> 
> 
> Hi folks, I'm the one who posted the wow article.  I have a question
> for all you evil little satanic bastards.  Sartre argues that man has
> no predestined basic nature.  Would you all say that man is born evil,
> or is it a choice that he makes in life?  I was just curious.

I think that people *do* have a predestined nature, but that it is not
moral in essence.  I believe that some people are predestined to be
terminally stupid (such as Sartre and certain dolts from Skidmore), causing 
them to do things like pose inane philosophical questions to those whose 
predestined nature it is to rape house pets, kill infants in ritual 
sacrifice with dull knives, and commit arson in critical care wings 
of hospitals.

You and Sartre can both take a flying leap.

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Illuminatus Primus 2:  If all are one, all sex is masturbation.

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Illuminatus Primus 2:  If all are one, all sex is masturbation.

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From: triley@weber.ucsd.edu (Tristan Riley)
Newsgroups: alt.evil
Subject: Re: nature of man
Date: 19 Dec 92 21:18:33 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
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In article <1992Dec15.025803.309@scott.skidmore.edu> cmoore@scott.skidmore.edu (colin moore) writes:
>
>
>Hi folks, I'm the one who posted the wow article.  I have a question
>for all you evil little satanic bastards.  Sartre argues that man has
>no predestined basic nature.  Would you all say that man is born evil,
>or is it a choice that he makes in life?  I was just curious.

uh, just a tiny little point here, seeing as how it's 1992 (almost
3) and all and i figured everybody figured this one out
already--using the generic "man" is one of the best ways to
demonstrate that you've been holed up in some reactionary backwater
surrounded by 1950s science textbooks for too long.  unless you just
mean bepenised humans, why not try inclusion?  yeah, yeah, i
anticipate some ravings about "pcthispcthat" coming my way as i write this 
and it makes me really feel for any sad beings who could be so
threatened by the idea that they might be asked to include the other
half of the world when they speak/write.  it's all so unfair, huh?
Newsgroups: alt.evil
From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: nature of man
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:03:40 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Dec15.025803.309@scott.skidmore.edu>, cmoore@scott.skidmore.edu (colin moore) writes:
> 
> 
> Hi folks, I'm the one who posted the wow article.  I have a question
> for all you evil little satanic bastards.  Sartre argues that man has
> no predestined basic nature.  Would you all say that man is born evil,
> or is it a choice that he makes in life?  I was just curious.

Yeah, we're born evil. Most of us spend our entire lives struggling to
overcome our natural evil. See my other post on definitions of evil to
get more (I'm not about to repeat all that).

--The Antichrist
Newsgroups: alt.evil
From: radinsky@spot.Colorado.EDU (Wayne Radinsky)
Subject: Maybe this question has been asked before but...
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 09:40:20 GMT

Why is there no alt.good?

Just Wondering

-- Wayne, the Anxious Puppy
From: cmoore@scott.skidmore.edu (colin moore)
Newsgroups: alt.evil
Subject: nature of man
Date: 15 Dec 92 02:58:03 GMT
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
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Hi folks, I'm the one who posted the wow article.  I have a question
for all you evil little satanic bastards.  Sartre argues that man has
no predestined basic nature.  Would you all say that man is born evil,
or is it a choice that he makes in life?  I was just curious.
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