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From: GC.SUL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Sullivan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Niners squeek past Saints
Date: 17 Nov 1992 11:02:57 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
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In article <1e9te4INN8g6@fido.asd.sgi.com>,
shankar@sgi.com (Shankar Unni) writes:
>Credit Mora with this loss.
>

I've heard this a couple times now.  How does Mora get blamed for
two dropped passes in the 4th quarter that should have been caught?
The Saints get a couple more first downs in the 4th quarter, they
win the game.

>People keep talking about the Saints as an underachieving team. They
>are. They have some superbly talented players, and now even Hebert can
>be ranked among the NFL's current best. Mora, however, has time and

I take back what I said earlier about Hebert, but that still isn't
true.

>again screwed up the Saints' chances with his stupid play-calling.
>
>He seems to have an especial complex about the 49ers (thank Heaven!
>:-). There's something about playing SF that seems to tie Jimbo into
>knots and reduce him to a babbling cretin!
>
>How the *HECK* could he end up with 50 seconds and *THREE* timeouts,
>and not call a SINGLE ONE?!  Oh yeah, and with 13 minutes to kill in
>the 4th quarter, they got the ball *three* times, and passed on 7 of 9
>plays (== 0 first downs, naturally). What a way to kill the clock! (I

The Saints running has suffered all year.  The Niners D had it
stuffed in the 4th quarter.  Hebert had been shredding us all day, I
think the play calls were right on, but the receivers didn't
execute.

>think the Aints had the ball for all of 1 minute in the last
>quarter!). Lost faith in Ironhead and Dalton, did ya, Jim?

Don't give up on your Saints yet.  They are still in the playoff
hunt and as a matter of fact, can still win the division.
In spite of what Rickey Jackson said about they should be beyond
learning now, is that they have a lot to learn from this game.  I
don't think the team had a lot of confidence in Hebert succeeding in
big games.  I think that they plan a game plan around him rather
than for him.  He has a long history of coming up with a big MENTAL
mistake in very crucial situations.  This was not the case in this
game.

Mike
From: Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Rough day for QB's
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:52:50 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
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The NFC East wasn't the only group that had a rough weekend...a good
many starting QB's didn't finish the day:  Moon (broken arm); Elway
(bruised shoulder); Hostetler (ribs); Favre (separated left shoulder);
O'Donnell (pulled hamstring); Gelbaugh (knee)  Favre gets the crippled
quarterback award for the day...he suffered a slight separation of his
left shoulder in the first quarter and went on to have an decent day,
23 of 33 for 275 yards and 2 TD's, 2 Int's.  

Mike Colburn                         =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Dartmouth-Hitchcock                  "Pulu-see-ba-goomba" -- Gilligan 
Medical Center                       =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Lebanon, New Hampshire  03756        :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
From: Mark.Larimer@cdc.com (Mark D. Larimer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Vikes/Browns comments
Date: 23 Nov 92 00:46:02 GMT
Organization: Control Data Systems, Inc.
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In article <49833@shamash.cdc.com> Mark D. Larimer, 
Mark.Larimer@cdc.com writes:

>>NFC Championship Game
>>   (4@3)   New Orleans  @ Minnesota        MINNESOTA
>                                            ^^^^^^^^^
>As much as I'd like to see it, it will never happen with Gannon
>at the offensive helm.  He just doesn't have the leadership
>abilities and couldn't run a 2-minute drill if his life depended
>upon it.

Well, as much as I hate to toot my own (Vikings) horn (no I don't),
all I can say is I guess I called this one.  After witnessing today's
putrid offensive display and Gannon's complete and total ineptitude 
at the position he supposedly plays, I can't see the Vikes going very
far in the playoffs.  Gannon was so ineffective, Coach Green and Co.
jerked him at halftime, and the only reason the Vikes pulled this one
out was because of (yet) another defensive score.  This is getting to
become habit, but this is not a good habit for Gannon (I cringe when
I say his name) to get into relying upon.

Gannon is NOT Minnesota's quarterbacking answer...and neither is 
Salisbury, who did throw 1 TD pass, but looked almost as bad as Gannon
did.

And to "The Purple Bleeder" who touts his two favorite teams as the
Vikings and the Browns: you have nothing to be proud of today, young
man.  The Vikes were lucky to get out with a win against a bad Browns
team and coaching staff.

Mark D. Larimer
(Control Data Systems, Inc.) && (University of Minnesota)
Internet: Mark.Larimer@cdc.com

Go Meanies (9-2) !!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Re: NFC/AFC superiority
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:27:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.182923.4047@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:

>The more I think about this, the more I believe that the NFC is indeed
>superior, and that it is no fluke.  Why?  Not because of talent, but
>because of coaching, and front officing.
>[other plausible reasons deleted...]

Your arguments hold water, but I don't buy them.  Why?  Because just a
decade before, the AFC, sans the genius coaches, the rich owners and the
big media markets (to paraphrase) were quite dominant themselves.  Not
nearly as much as the NFC in the '80s, but still dominant.

Face it:  The NFC is better because it is.  Luck.  Karma.  Kismet.  The
phases of the moon.  They don't have a birthright to superiority and
will not be superior forever.  Indeed, with the emergence of the Steelers
and the Chiefs this year, the pendulum may already be swinging back.
-- 
Michael Zimmers                                    |  Home:  408 996 1984
SoftHelp                                           |  Work:  408 996 1965
Software Solutions for Open Systems                |  Data:  408 996 1974
From: kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: THE BET II
Date: 20 Nov 92 22:33:29 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Nov19.092459.5526@spuddy.uucp> markl@spuddy.uucp (Mark Liversedge) writes:
>In article <92322.140241IO10928@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> IO10928@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (ABHAY) writes:
>>In article <1724@niktow.canisius.edu>, bittle@niktow.canisius.edu (Jason Bittle)
>>says:
>>It is not wise to force these loosing guys out of the group, let's
>>show generosity of a winner and let them come back. Atlest I am freeing
>>with your bet against me
>>
>>Enjoy
>>Abhay
>>(io10928@maine.maine.edu---A born winner)
>
>I agree. And I was in on the BET II, too. It was a childish bet
>and does nothing for the good. Let them back! 
>
>We'd have nothing to argue about without them! ;-)
>
>
>-- 
>
> * Meeeow ! Call Spuddy on (0203) 638780/638693 for FREE mail & Usenet access *

I am ashmed of all you Bills fans that are letting the Miami fans off easy.
They took a bet, make them stick to it. But, here's an alternate
suggestion. Remember THE BET I? This said that if your team did not take
the AFC East, then you couldn't post until after the Super Bowl. So, if the
Bills do not get the division title, I'd be willing to let the four Fins
fans who took the BET II back on the net. But, that's as far as I'm willing
to budge.
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From: jaceb@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Sikahema
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:55:54 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

Being a BYU fan, I have followed Vai Sikahema's career from the time that he
was in college.  My first memories of him was when he was a freshman in college
and playing in the Holiday Bowl against SMU (Back when Eric Dickerson and Craig
James were two of the best backs in the country).  BYU was getting killed and
just before halftime, Sikahema returned a punt for a touchdown that kept BYU
from getting blown out, and BYU eventually came from 21 points down in the last
7 minutes to win.  (Jim McMahon was the quarterback).  Since then, he has been
punt returner extraordinaire.  He did it several more times during his career
with BYU, then he became an All-Pro punt returner with the Cardinals.

I had lost track of him, and was excited last year when he joined the Packers. 
He doesn't have great speed or size, but he is extremely smart and knows how to
run with the ball.  He is the Steve Largent of punt returns.  His little
brother, Kapi, is playing for BYU this year, but he rarely gets a chance to
play.

Just thought you might want to know.

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From: metv@triton.unm.edu ()
Subject: Re: Broncos cream Giants Oakland next
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 17:24:58 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Nov17.182452.28462@pts1.pts.mot.com> schw_mi@pts.mot.com writes:
>Yes, I said Oakland, the Raiders were and always will be the hated Oakland Raiders to
>loyal old Bronco fans like myself.  
>Michael A. Schwarz
>A missed place Bronco Fan in Dolphin Country.
>Go Broncos
>

I must said the same to the Broncos.  I hate Broncos and always will be.  I hopeRaiders win this Sunday.

GO RAIDERS! GO SKINS!
From: Mark.Larimer@cdc.com (Mark D. Larimer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Predictions
Date: 22 Nov 92 09:47:33 GMT
Organization: Control Data Systems, Inc.
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In article <57051@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> Roberto Ricca, 
roberto@oas.olivetti.com writes:
>
>NFC Championship Game
>   (4@3)   New Orleans  @ Minnesota        MINNESOTA
                                            ^^^^^^^^^
As much as I'd like to see it, it will never happen with Gannon
at the offensive helm.  He just doesn't have the leadership
abilities and couldn't run a 2-minute drill if his life depended
upon it.

Mark D. Larimer
(Control Data Systems, Inc.) && (University of Minnesota)
Internet: Mark.Larimer@cdc.com

Go Meanies (9-2) !!
From: pboxrud@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul D Boxrud)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: PEOPLE ON AIKMAN's BACK
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:01:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: magnus.1992Nov23.200138.16884
 <1992Nov23.193908.16206@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Organization: The Ohio State University


What the heck happened here?  Since I don't feel like typing all the thoughtful
comments that were obviously sabotaged by someone :-), I guess I'll just 
summarize what I said:

Basically,
               1) Troy Aikman hasn't proven he can handle clutch situations
               2) IMHO Over half the quarterbacks given Dallas' OL and WR could
                    put up the AVERAGE numbers that Troy has
               3) Emmitt Smith takes away from his yardage, but his running
                    threat makes the passing game easier.

The playoffs should be a good test for him.

Paul
From: f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: THE BET III and Computer Ranking Systems
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:29:28 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
Nntp-Posting-User: f67700241

In article <Bxzx4H.8w5@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v073pzuy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Damned for all time...) writes:
> In article <1992Nov16.235623.1@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>, 
> 	f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin) writes...
>>>Last week, on the heels of a dominant NFC performance, I wrote:
>> 
>>> In looking at NFL_1992 Scoreboard's ranking of teams, I was struck by
>>> the fact that 4 of the teams in the Top 10 were from the NFC East.
>>> In fact, 7 out of the Top 10 were in the NFC, indicating that at least one
>>> of the top 10 teams in the league will not even make it to the playoffs,
>>> whereas AFC stragglers like Cleveland and Kansas City will likely get
>>> playoff berths.
> 
> In fact, let me try and point out some things here which you may have missed:
> 
> NFL_1992 is no more or less arbitrary than any other ranking system, but you
> have to be able to see just that--it is *NOT* written dogma.

You DON'T think I know that?  The major reason I post the damn things is for
another viewpoint, a comparison with the Schmidt, JGH, Koontz and other
homebrew algorithms.  I certainly don't treat it as dogma, and I don't
consistently bash KC or Buffalo heads with its stuff.  My comments were
intended to be prefaced with "if you believe this ranking...."  For this
reason, I never attack other people's computer rankings.

Its success rate in picking games this season is ~62%, probably WORSE than
the others posted here.  So to think that I "trust" the computer....HA!
 
You're a bit sensitive about your Bills, I see.
Anyway, take THE BET III if you can.
-- 
Greg "Mockingbird" Franklin      Interviewer: "Sir, how do you spell relief?"
f67700241@ccit.arizona.edu               Dan: "R-O-L-A-I-D-S-E."

"[George Bush is] the most ruthless white man in the history of the planet."
	-- Richard Ben Cramer, author of _What It Takes_
"The President scores much better than Bill Clinton."
	-- Dan, comparing Bush's record of marital infidelity to Clinton's
From: banshee@natinst.com (Jeff Kellam)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Week-11 Game with the Browns Crucial for Vikes.
Date: 17 Nov 1992 13:08:04 -0600
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
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In article <Bxts2t.9pq@ns1.nodak.edu> sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (The Purple Bleeder ) writes:
>
>The Vikes are going to play a crucial game with the Browns and
>I feel this is going to be a tough one.  The Browns, after
>their tough loss to the Chargers will be desperate and the
>Vikes also smarting after a tough loss to the Oilers. 

>The Vikes need to win this one and go 500 in the remaining games.
>But the Browns D is a toughie and this is going to be a tough
>one for the struggling Viking O.

>Any Comments and Brown fans what do u feel about this game.

As a Browns fan, I'd say you really don't have much to worry about.
The Browns offense has been anemic at best (hey guys, here we are at the 25,
bring in the kicker now), and although I haven't seen the Vikings play much,
I don't think they'll have any problem shutting down to Browns.

Then again, the Browns seem to only be able to beat teams they shouldn't.

Jeff K.
From: cs_ind33@blurt.oswego.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: DA BILLS
Date: 22 Nov 92 19:46:58 GMT
Organization: SUNY College at Oswego, Oswego, NY



Blowout!!!!!!!!

       BILLS 41
       falcons 14

GO BILLS!!!!!!
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From: douthit@convex.com (Ronnie Douthit)
Subject: Dallas: Holt is out
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:06:10 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

I just heard that Kevin Smith will replace Ike Holt in the starting
line up.  I think this is good, Holt is just too inconsistent.  We'll see
how Smith lives up to his 1st round status.

				-Ron
From: rege@bongo.Berkeley.EDU (Ashutosh G. Rege)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 49ers/Saints
Date: 16 Nov 1992 05:28:57 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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In article <1992Nov16.010311.24644@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com writes:
 >Whew! The 49ers pulled out a huge win over the Saints in a game they
 >probably did not deserve to win. New Orleans kept the 49ers under
 >their thumb for three quarters, but then let the 49ers get away. Until
 >the 49ers unveiled their no-huddle offense the Saints had pretty much
 >kept the 49ers under wraps. But the Saints did not seem to be able to
 >handle the no-huddle; the 49ers moved the ball pretty much at will
 >with it.

  For some strange reason (maybe I'm just used to it) I always expected
  the Niners to pull this one off. All the chips seem to be falling
  the Niners' way this season. 
 
 >Early in the 4th quarter the Saints were up 20-7, and after the 49ers
 >came up empty after having first and goal at the seven (Cofer doinked
 >a FG attempt off the upright) the Saints seemed to have the game wrapped
 >up. But the 49ers immediately forced the Saints to punt and then drove

  You must give the defense a lot of credit for coming alive in the
  4th. Especially the defensive coaches who definitely out-thought
  the Saints offensive coaches in the 4th quarter.  

 >all the way down the field to close within 20-14 on a TD pass to Jones.
 >After some exchanges of punts the 49ers got the ball on their own 26
 >with about four minutes to go, and they used the no-huddle offense to
 >move the ball all the way down the field again for another TD pass
 >to Jones (seven yards) with just 46 seconds left to make the score 21-20.
 >The Saints made poor use of the 46 seconds and could not cross midfield,
 >so the final score was 21-20.
 >
 >Question : why were the 49ers in such a hurry with 1st and goal at the
 >seven and 50 seconds left? Huddle up and let the clock run a little bit
 >for crying out loud! Fortunately it didn't end up costing them.

  I was wondering the very same thing. In fact I was hoping they'd
  send Ricky Watters up the middle once more. But I guess you've
  got to take what the defense is giving you and they were certainly
  giving up passes up the middle in that drive.
  
 >Rickey Watters picked up 92 yards rushing in the 1st half, then had to
 >struggle to make 100. I think he ended up with about 115 yards rushing.

   115 on 21 attempts. Not bad at all. Boy, if only the Niners had
   a pass rush, this team would be incredible.

 >So, a commendable game by the Saints, but in the end I think you have
 >to say they got out-coached. The no-huddle was a stroke of genius. Well,
 >maybe that's stretching it a little. Whatever, the 49ers did what it takes
 >to win, which is what winners do.

   The Niners offense needs J.T. to be back in full speed if Rice is
   not to go bananas. Did I mention they need a pass rush ? Ah, well
   can't have everything I guess. 

  Ashu Rege
From: v077mdph@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Snoopy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: BILLS WIN!!!!
Date: 18 Nov 92 02:08:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1ebb3eINNsth@morrow.stanford.edu>, GC.JAB@forsythe.stanford.edu
(Tony Bechtold) writes...
>In article <BxuJJ8.Mqp@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>,
>wlay@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Radio 90.1 FM WLAY Tarkington Hall) writes:
>>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFF!!!!!!
>>
>>Bills 26, Fish 20
>>
>>Just got done hearing a dolfan complain about the officiating... there were
>>calls BOTH ways close enough that I wouldn't want to have to make the call!
>>But, a minor reality check: IT'S OVER!! There is nothing you can do about
>>it!!
> 
>There were bad calls both ways, but the worst had to be in the
>closing minutes of the game when Kelly clearly intentionally
>grounded the ball back on the Buffalo 2.  Considering that Buffalo
>would have had loss of down, and 23 yards to go for a first down,
>that one bad call might have very well cost Miami the game. Miami
>would have had good field position with a few minutes to punch it
>in.  Maybe they would have. Maybe they wouldn't have!

	How about all the missed false-starts on Marino?  Most quarterbacks do
that, and get away with it, but it's still against the rules.  It should be
called when it's blatant, and it was.  For that matter, calling Thomas out-of-
bounds inside the one was a questionable call.  The ref was right there, but
did not have a good angle.  Also, the Bills were robbed of a touchdown when
Pete Metzelaars dove for the ball in the endzone.  Without the poor officiating,
the Dolphins would not have been that close.

>                                                    Tony
>                                                 GO 49ERS!!!

Snoopy
From: jjd3@po.CWRU.Edu (James J. Dibenedetto)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: A Giant Disgrace
Date: 23 Nov 1992 21:17:13 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: jjd3@po.CWRU.Edu (James J. Dibenedetto)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


God, what an embarassment.  and at home, no less.  The most points allowed
since 1975.  The most points allowed at home since 1967.  The third
blocked punt of the season.  34 unanswered points allowed - for the second
time this season.  and to top it off, it had to be to the god-damned
Eagles.

got to give credit to those bastards from down the turnpike; they played
well, were opportunistic and made a great comeback.  

But there's plenty of blame for the giants and those sacks of shit that they
call a coaching staff.  It's time for a a total housecleaning, like Dallas
did a couple of years ago.  fire everybody; trade anybody who's got any kind
of trade value for draft picks.  and wait.  It's got to start at the top; if
Geroge Young won't do it, he should be the first to go.  and then Handley and 
his gang of morons.  They should all be shot at halftime of the next home 
game.  Forget the marching band, and bring in a firing squad.  Take them
out one by one...the QB coach, the special teams coach, all the other
assistants, Rod rust, and finally Handley.  and shoot them.  It won't
make up for this season, but it would make me feel a lot better...

(and, no, I'm not one of those fans who feels entitled to a super bowl by his
team every year, or anything.  But to see the team stagnate with players
who are over the hill and a coach who has dog food for brains, that\s too
much...)


-- 
James John DiBenedetto (jjd3@po.cwru.edu) | "And even though my troop fell
State University of New York at Buffalo   |  thence vanquished, yet to have
School o' Law, Class of 1994              |  attempted a lofty enterprise is
Go Giants!!!                              |  still a trophy."
From: un032221@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: DamN AstrOturF!!
Date: 18 Nov 92 01:41:00 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

In article <1992Nov9.165506.2339@news.Hawaii.Edu>, bill@gaza.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (William J. King) writes:
> 
> 	Look at the injuries related to astroturf over that past 2
> 	weeks, 'Lanta's QB, NY's LB and numerous others.
> 
> 	When are they going to spend the bucks and grow grass
> 	indoors? Hell they can grow marijuana indoors, why
> 	not grass?
> 
> 
	Yeah!  If they can grow grass indoors, why can't they grow grass
indoors?  :)   I couldn't resist.  Anyway, LT's injury could be said to be a
turf injury too, since his leg buckling might have had somehting to do with how
little give there is on turf.  I think this stuff should be gone, and Domes in
general along with thim.  If I were commisioner I'd definately say no new turf
fields, and might go so far as to demand that owners with turf fields switch
over ASAP.
	-Skins fan.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: dansmith@mcopn2.dseg.ti.com (Dan Smith)
Subject: Re: THE RESULTS ARE IN...TOP DRAFT _BUSTS_
Reply-To: dansmith@mcopn2.dseg.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc.
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:27:39 GMT

We must add the legendary MIKE JUNKIN to this list. I believe he was Cleveland's
1st round selection in the '87 draft and the fifth player taken OVERALL. This
entire draft was a huge bust with Alonzo Highsmith the (I believe) number 2
OVERALL selection and Brent Fullwood the #3 OVERALL selection. I think Vinny was
the first selection in this remarkable draft. The list goes on.

Do the research. Please note the '87 draft as the biggest bust in recent years.
I gets just as laughable as you look past the first five hideous selections. I am
speaking about the first round of '87 draft not any other rounds.