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From: maniac@magic.cs.unlv.edu (Eric J. Schwertfeger)
Subject: Re: Can we use LILO 5.0 with Linux0.99????
Reply-To: maniac@magic.cs.unlv.edu (Eric J. Schwertfeger)
Organization: UNLV Computer Science and Electrical Engineering
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 19:46:12 GMT

In article <mclennan.724652999@puff.socsci.umn.edu>, harry@atlas.socsci.umn.edu (Kuo-Chen Chang) writes:
) From: harry@atlas.socsci.umn.edu (Kuo-Chen Chang)
) Subject: Can we use LILO 5.0 with Linux0.99????
) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 20:29:59 PST
) Organization: University of Minnesota
) 
) Can we use old version LILO to load and boot Linux 0.99?  I have problem
) in using LILO 7.0 to load DOS and OS2.  Lilo won't give any prompt to
) select OS other than Linux.  WHenever I press CTRL, TAB, SHIFT, LILO load
) Linux right away.  No prompt at all.
) 
) Thanks!  
) 
) --Harry

I had the same problem until I told LILO to wait .5 sec before proceding
with the boot.  Of course, not having used any other version of LILO, this
may not be your problem.

-- 
Eric J. Schwertfeger, maniac@cs.unlv.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.sys.laptops
From: lma@dayton.Stanford.EDU (Larry Augustin)
Subject: Re: [Q] Linux and Notebooks
Keywords: Linux, notebooks
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: 15 Dec 92 05:23:23 GMT

I just booted Linux (0.98pl?) on my Packard Bell 386SX notebook.
Works fine except for power management.  The machine generates NMIs
pretty regularly.  I've seen NMI used for powerfail on board designs,
so i assume NMI is being used in a similar way here.

Anyone worked/working on power management for notebooks?

Larry

Larry M. Augustin			ERL 414, M/C 4055
lma@dayton.stanford.edu			Computer Systems Lab
+1 415.723.9285 (voice)			Stanford University
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: adam@microware.com (Adam Goldberg)
Subject: Re: keyboard problems - v.99
Organization: Microware Systems Corp., Des Moines, Iowa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:03:06 GMT

erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp) writes:

>Dean Troyer (troyer@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com) wrote:

>: Port 61 is listed in my BIOS reference as being the PS/2 System Port B, although
>: it's not unique to PS/2s.  It's uses include the speaker hardware & timer
>: control bits.  Check out the Mach sources kd.h.  The bummer is that I can't
>: find the purpose of bit 7 documented anywhere!  I suspect it controls one
>: of the keyboard controller's input pins.

>Bit 7: input - 1=IRQ 0 reset (timer 0 output latch)
>       output- Parity check state (1=parity check occurred)

>This is from "The Programmer's PC Sourcebook" by Thom Hogan.  An absolute
>*must* if you're going to be mucking about with the hardware. :)

I hate to be contrary, but "The Programmer's PC Sourcebook" is good if
and only if you need to look up something simple.  For example, if you
wanted to directly read from the keyboard controller:

You'd look to page 7-22 & 7-23 (TPPS, 2nd ed).  There it says in
section 7.018 "Command value 0x20 - read keyboard controller".  

What the h*ll does that mean?  How do you use it?  What does the
returned value mean?

There are many better books.  For example, "IBM Microcomputers: A
programmer's handbook" by Sanchez.  

Though I guess I can't fault Hogan too much.  The PC architecture is a
friggin mess, with very little standard anything.  Everybody does
everything just a tiny bit different.  Just enough to screw things up.

Adam
-- 
Adam G.
adamg@microware.com, or ...!uunet!mcrware!adamg
The above is not to be construed in any way as the official or unofficial
statements of Microware, or any Microware employees.
From: dodd@dodd.UUCP (Mike Dodd)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Screwy Kernel Messed Up Video - help
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:00:11 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Not
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

I can give more details but here is it in a nutshell.  I tried recompiling
the kernel source provided with the SLS distribution .98.  I wanted to
eliminate the requester for SVGA Mode.  I wanted number 4 all the time.
I 'make clean'd then 'make disk'd.  The disk spun, I 'reboot'ed and I got a 
string of characters such as this:

It goes through the "Loading ............................................"
then this...

@X0212
AX020F
BX4A00
CX1B01
DX0000.
<over and over, grinding the disk each time over and over until I reboot>
----
Then, I go back to DOS.  I have a Dual Monitor Setup (which I've had for 
awhile now).  

I have been using a program called 'setbus' to change the bus from 8 to
16 bit while doing regular stuff.  

Well this time I boot up and I do couple commands and all I get is 
GARBAGE, symbols scattered about, different colors.  All the lines EXCEPT
the bottom one.  If I 'CLS' in DOS and do a 'dir' it is fine until the
cursor hits the bottom line.  Then all hell breaks loose.

Well, I eliminated setbus from the AUTOEXEC.BAT file and all seemed fine. I
tried the Video/Diagnotic program to check into things and IT comes back
again just for that one screen.

I noticed if I use any program that alters the screen from 25 lines to 
50 lines (VGA), and then return to 25 Lines, the problem is repaired.
unless I use the Diagnostic program or setbus again. 

This is making me a little ill.  

I did Not change a single line in the kernel code, I don't know why it 
did not work in the first place, I was willing to live with it, but now
I feel I have scarred something.

			    -Mike

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: zzulich@ipc1.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (Thomas Ulich)
Subject: Re: HELP - Need to log in through serial port
Organization: RRZN
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:23:39 GMT

cronin@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Fester the Penguin) writes:
: modem adapters I need... but, how do I set up Linux to accept logins from
: the serial port? Preferably something I can type blind... :-) This'll let me
: use the PC for some things until I can get enough money for another VGA
: monitor.....

Usually it's easy to do:

Just edit the file /etc/inittab. Therein you'll find a commented line that 
says something like:

/dev/ttys1 ... <baud-rate>...
         ^
         !------- Number 1 = com2, 0 = com1, 2 = com3 ...

	 The 's' stands for serial :-)

Remove the '#' and set the baud-rate the way you like (I use 38400).

After that you should edit /etc/securetty and add your serial line to that
list. Otherwise you won't be allowed to login as root from your Terminal.
Using su to become the root is possible anyway.

Finally you have to reboot your Linux to get the things working.

On the PC I prefer MS-Kermit to communicate with that Linux-Machine.
Read the documentation of Linux-Kermit that comes with the SLS's.
There you'll find the hints you need to install Kermit correctly.

Good luck,

--
Thomas Ulich       Tel.: +49-5021-7550     zzulich@kursix.rrzn.uni-hannover.de

                   The opinions expressed above are my own
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: news@infodev.cam.ac.uk (USENET news)
Subject: Re: HELP X gods! .99 broke my xdm!
Followup-To: comp.os.linux
Summary: Try not using doshell
Organization: Olivetti Research Ltd
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:03:08 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.222308.14664@sol.UVic.CA> pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald) writes:
>In article <chuck.724403077@perlab.eas.asu.edu> chuck@perlab.eas.asu.edu (Chuck Lunskis) writes:
>>operjsl@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU writes:
>...
>>>However, xdm locks up my machine.  xdm was working fine on 0.98.5, and nothing
>>>has changed with the xdm (or X, for that matter) stuff since then.  I can

I had a similar problem with 0.98pl6.

I found by experimentation that _not_ using doshell in my inittab
fixed it (ie just start xdm directly). Depending on whether the
inittab entry is once/wait or respawn you need the -nodaemon flag.
Personally I use respawn with -nodaemon.

Previously I had to use /bin/doshell /dev/tty1 etc etc to get it to
accept keystrokes.

I use Mike Jagdis' System V init and the S3 X server (0.2a and 0.3
both work for me); the xdm I use was snarfed and compiled from the
386BSD tree but I don't think that's terribly relevant.

To the person who was complaining about poor performance: if you're
starting xdm from your inittab with respawn you need to add the
-nodaemon option; otherwise it will sit there and use up lots of your
CPU trying to start loads of xdm's.

--
Ian Jackson  iwj@cam-orl.co.uk ..!uknet!cam-orl!iwj  These opinions are my own.
Olivetti Research Ltd, Old Addenbrookes Site, Trumpington St, Cambridge, UK;
Home: 35 Molewood Close, Cambridge, CB4 3SR; +44 223 327029.     +44 223 343398
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: wyvern@gnu.ai.mit.edu (The Wyvern)
Subject: Problems with sysv init sources
Keywords: init
Organization: Free Software Foundation
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:49:09 GMT

I recently compiled and installed the sources for the sysv-style init
from tsx-11 (plus the patch). It seems to be having problems
with runlevels though. If I have initdefault set to, say, 3,
and a couple lines like this:

rc:3:wait:/etc/rc3
xd:3:once:/usr/X386/bin/xdm

Init gives me something like:
INIT: Warning: No processes for this runlevel
INIT: Entering single user mode
/ root# 
So I end up having to have all the entries in my inittab be either
boot or bootwait, since those are the only ones which get executed.
Right now my inittab looks like this:

id:3:initdefault: 
si::sysinit:/etc/bcheckrc 
rc::bootwait:/etc/rc 
r3::bootwait:/etc/rc3 
xd::boot:/usr/X386/bin/xdm
#c1:1234:respawn:/etc/getty 9600 tty1
#c2:23:respawn:/etc/getty 9600 tty2
#c3:23:respawn:/etc/getty 9600 tty3
#c4:23:respawn:/etc/getty 9600 tty4
pf::powerwait:/etc/shutdown -f now
# init

This is highly annoying - it kind of defeats the purpose of an init
with runlevels. Does anyone have an idea of what might be wrong?

(Incidentally, for those of you who are having trouble with xdm
 you might try starting it from your inittab rather than your rc or
 rc.local - for me it only works correctly when put in the inittab
 as shown above.)


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tgao@cs.uiuc.edu (Tong Gao)
Subject: How to use microsoft mouse in X?
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:32:51 GMT

Hi, everyone. I need some help in how to use the microsoft mouse with X.
It has 2 buttons only, as opposed to 3 buttons in many other mouse. It looks
like only the left button works(I use all default setting), and that leave me
only one button to use. As a result, I can not cut and paste text from one
window to another window because there is no middle button on the mouse.

Is there a combination of mouse clicking or keystrokes that can achieve the
effect of the middle button on a regular 3 button mouse? Should I redefine
the functionalities of the buttons in system.twmrc? If yes, how should I do
it? Thanks in advance.

Tong
tgao@cs.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: loser@clueless.newbie.tyro.org ()
Subject: Re: Olit files missing in Xview stuff?
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:41:52 GMT

The XView libriries does not include the OLIT widget set.  These two are
separate entities.

Jaime

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: darcys@fraser.sfu.ca (Darcy Smith)
Subject:  Hardware Question
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:21:09 GMT

Just a quick (not FAQ I hope) question.

I'me preparing to upgrade my hardware (ok buy a whole new computer
system) and  Os (I want linux) and I was wondering if there were any
suggestions as to what some good setups are.  I want to run X and. oh,
just about anything.

Thanx in advance,

D'Arcy
From: root@slave.uwe.ac.uk (Operator (Phil/Dylan))
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: PS, top, vs. linux-0.99
Date: 17 Dec 92 05:04:43 GMT
Reply-To: p_copela@csd.uwe.ac.uk
Organization: The New University in the West of England, Bristol (WEB)

In article <1992Dec14.043806.11547@u.washington.edu>,
opium@hardy.u.washington.edu (Just dance and move your body) writes:
|> It could just be me but after I booted the new Image Itried ps -U to update:
|> 
|> Neltrix# ps -U
|>   PID TT STAT  TIME COMMAND
|> Neltrix# 
|> 
|> It doesn't seem to work ;;  However free and who are okay.
|> 
|> also, when I run top, the screen is blank until I hit q, then it exits.
|> 
|> Has anybody been able to fix this, or has anybody experienced similar be-
|> havior?  

one thing that I have found is that in the sources that I obtained for PS
(ps-0.98.4?) was that in the Makefile there two lines
CFLAGS= -O -DVERSION_CHECK
CFLAGS= -O

when making, I simply changed  it to
CFLAGS= -O -DVERSION_CHECK
#CFLAGS= -O
that was all I had to do to get ps, w, tload to work(ish) though i'm not happy
with the output from 'w' as it puts some processes in ()'s

top broke on this but I wasn't fussed about it as my usage of it is approx 0

it isn't perfact but until (dave black?) or whoever releases a new version
specifically for 0.99 we'll all be making alternitive perl/c ps commands

Phil
=--=
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jting@cayley.uwaterloo.ca ()
Subject: Re: motif
Summary:  Window Managers
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:46:59 GMT

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: minyard@crchh7b9 (Corey Minyard)
Subject: 0.99 general protection error
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:14:05 GMT

The default 0.99 kernel gave me a general protection at startup.  The kernel
was crashing in wake_up().  After some creative debugging (I added a stack
trace-back to the exception handler) I found the bug was coming from iput().
It turns out that the inode_wait variable was not being initialized to NULL.

Make the following change the following in fs/inode.c to fix the problem.
This is not really a diff, but you should get the idea:
***
  static struct inode inode_table[NR_INODE];
  static struct inode * last_inode = inode_table;
! static struct wait_queue * inode_wait;
  
  void inode_init(void)
  {
***
  static struct inode inode_table[NR_INODE];
  static struct inode * last_inode = inode_table;
! static struct wait_queue * inode_wait = NULL;
  
  void inode_init(void)
***

Corey
minyard@bnr.ca
From: Conrad_Nobili@Harvard.EDU (Conrad C. Nobili)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: How stable is extended filesystem?
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:51:56 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.linux
Organization: Harvard University Office for Information Technology

In article <1gm5rrINNb01@life.ai.mit.edu>, mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu
(Charles Hannum) wrote:

> If you don't *need* extfs, and don't mind short file names, I would
> recommend not using it for now.

Hmmmm....  Maybe some of you *have* been using DOS too long....  I guess
14-character file names must be quite a luxury to you...!  ;-)  I would say
that *this limitation alone* is why you *need* extfs....  To say nothing
about constantly having to redistribute all your dinky little file systems
when they fill up....  Maybe some of you *like* that aspect of system
administration....  I always figured that was what we had *operators* for
(the dirty-but-easy work)....  ;-)

Anyway, I must say that I have had no problems whatsoever with extfs since
I first started using linux half a year ago.  I guess that was with extfs
version alpha.6 or so.  I recommend it.

Conrad C. Nobili  N1LPM  Conrad_Nobili@Harvard.EDU  Harvard University OIT
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jblaine@garnet.acns.fsu.edu (Jeff Blaine)
Subject: Re: Can X run with only 4 megs RAM?
Organization: Florida State University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 22:03:29 GMT

I have a 386-25 with 4 megs and a 9 meg swap partition.  It seems very
odd the responses that this question has been getting.  People with nearly
the same configuration are having totally different circumstances come about
from running X.  

One person said they could run 2 xterms, xconq, xman etc and the initial 
person said they had 2 to 3 minutes lags between mouse movements.
I can open one xterm.  If I open anything else at all, X starts swapping
massively to disk.  I mean, unbearable lag if I open anything other than
an xterm.  X seems to swap for a few minutes (lots of disk action) if
anything more than that one xterm is opened.  Does anyone know what the
deal is with all of these different reports?

-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
|  Jeff Blaine    |    cblaine@gnu.ai.mit.edu  | jblaine@garnet.acns.fsu.edu  |
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: braun@efes.physik.uni-kl.de (Martin Braun)
Subject: Re: PCNFSD for Linux
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:59:34 GMT


Hello all,

I have compiled pcnfsd without major problems. You will need
the RPC - library port by Rick Sladkey (jrs@world.std.com).
It is available as sunrpc-bin-4.0.tar.Z on many linux sites
in the ALPHA/NFS directory. Your kernel must have NFS - support
compiled in. I use the sources from SLS (0.98p5) with all patches
from the package lxpatchs.taz on disk b4 applied.
The changes to pcnfsd.c consist of checking some file and directory
names, supplying a mode in some
mkdir calls, declaring the crypt() function and changing the
type of free_list() to void.
To install pcnfsd on your system add it to your rc.net script
after the other NFS stuff. Remember to add your pc to /etc/exports
so that it is allowed to do mounts.
Since it has only been a short time that I've been using this,
I can't tell how stable it is. I couldn't get printing via NFS
to work yet (the jobs get queued but are truncated to length zero).
I'll post some more on this if there is interest.

Hope this helps,

Martin Braun
braun@physik.uni-kl.de
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tjrc1@cus.cam.ac.uk (T.J.R. Cutts)
Subject: Re: Linux 0.99 FPU question
Keywords: LINUX, FPU
Organization: U of Cambridge, England
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 23:22:54 GMT

In article <1grrfpINN702@kitty.ksu.ksu.edu>, probreak@kitty.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon) writes 
|> 
|> I have a 486-33 running 0.99 right now. I could have sworn I didn't compile 
|> in the FPU support. I will try recompiling and get back to everyone about
|> this. Otherwise the kernel runs fine and I have had no problems.
|> 
|> James

I also have a 486/33; this is my 0.99 story:

I got the most recent SLS two days ago when by crass stupidity I managed to
destroy my Linux setup.  I took the opportunity to basically set everything up
afresh, including putting everything on one 95Mb extended filesystem.  I also got
the sources for 0.99, because I needed to recompile it with UK keyboard
definitions.  I compiled without SCSI or FPU emulation.  I also added -m486 to
the CFLAGS line in the Makefile.

The entire compilation took 11 minutes (gloat at the horror stories of >15 hour
compilations :-) ), and the result seems to be a considerably smaller kernel than
the standard SLS release, though I guess that's hardly surprising.  Whatever; the
recompilation seems to have worked perfectly.  Try the -m486 option, if you
hadn't done that before.

-- Tim Cutts                             /~\     ----
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From: mitch@lakes.trenton.sc.us (mitch quinn)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: lex facility with SLS99??
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 17:05:03 EST
Reply-To: mitch@lakes.trenton.sc.us (mitch quinn)
Organization: Lakes Public Access

Hello!
        I am on the verge of getting the new sls release, and I was 
wondering if a lex facility is provided with linux. If it isn't in the 
package, where can I get it ? 

        aTdHvAaNnKcSe,
                Mitch Quinn
        mitch@lakes.trenton.sc.us
From: STDN%MARIST.bitnet@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Dan Newcombe)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Using Linux to write an OS?
Date: 18 Dec 1992 23:10:31 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hi all...  One more question before I ship out for a week for a
needed Christmas break.  I know that Linus wrote Linux uding the
minix assembler.  As part of a research project, I am planning on
writing a small graphical operating system (which will blow away X, OS/2
and Windows...ok, so I'm nuts...)  Anyway, just how easy is the assembler
on linux for doin things like this, as I would need to use all sorts
of neat protected mode stuff, etc.  On DOS, most of the assemblers
cringe something horrible when trying to something like this.  Also,
where would be a good place to get a hold of a decent reference for
the assembler?

  Thanks and happy holidays...
    -Dan

Dan Newcombe
stdn@vm.marist.edu                        kk4d@maristb.marist.edu
dnewcomb@cybernet.cse.fau.edu             And others...
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
- Real programmers like vending machine popcorn.  Coders pop it in the
  microwave oven.  Real programmers use the heat given off by the cpu.
  They can tell what job is running just by listening to the rate of popping.

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jthomas@kolanut.mitre.org (Joe Thomas)
Subject: SLIP & Ethernet router update (sorta...)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:20:45 GMT

So far, I got four rather urgent "me, too" messages asking for me to post  
info on using a LINUX box on SLIP and an ethernet as a router as soon as I  
get any.  I haven't got any.

I assume this is because SLIP is't real solid now, if I'm understanding that  
correctly.  I should have pointed out in the original post that I'm not even  
running LINUX yet.  I will be soon, however, and I was trying to figure out  
what its capabilities and limitations were.  So far there seem to be far more  
of the former than the latter =).

If anyone sends me any hard info about running a LINUX box as a  
SLIP<->ethernet router, I'll of course summarize here on c.o.l., as well as  
to anyone who asks (my four correspondents are getting c.c.'s of this post).

Thanks
Joe
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: rich@falcon.engr.utk.edu (Steve Rich)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Serial communications problems
Date: 12 Dec 92 21:59:13 GMT
Reply-To: rich@falcon.engr.utk.edu (Steve Rich)
Organization: Computer Vision & Robotics, U.T. Knoxville

I have a simple (and probably stupid) question: How do you designate that
the com port has interrupts disabled? My com3 isn't attached to an
interrupt. (I know where to designate the interrupt number in serial.c,
but I don't know how to tell it not to use one at all.)
Thanks.

sjr
-- 
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Steve Rich
rich@laser1.engr.utk.edu
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!