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From: RHK106@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Most Idiotic Wrestlers
Date: 12 Apr 92 08:04:36 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

The following is a list of the most Idiotic Wrestlers.  If you have any
more, please feel free to add on to the list:

Repo Man:  Just look at him, he's fat, has a high voice, very little talent
           stole the mask from Robin, the boy wonder.  Idiot!

The Bushwackers:  They're little, I saw them in person and they're both about
                  my size, 5'8" or so (not a reason for being idiotic but
                  interesting to me).  They bite people's asses, eat any
                  disgusting thing they can find, smell bad (or so we're told)
                  wave their arms up and down as their calling card.  Finishing
                  Maneuver is the ram-my brother's-head-in-your-stomach move.
                  Idiotic.

Sgt. Slaughter:   He's slow, old, past his prime and anyone who kisses off his
                  country (no matter how much money Vince could have payed him)
                  is about as low as you can get.  Plus he's an idiot.

Hacksaw Duggan:   He get's his moral support from a piece of wood.  Finishing
                  maneuver is a clothesline (only he gets a running start from
                  a 3-point stance).  Acts stupid, is stupid.  Plus he teams
                  with Slaughter.  Twice the idiocy.

Honkytonk Man:   With all those rumors of those sex scandals in the WWF going
                 on, the only way I see this idiot holding the IC belt for so
                 long was him being really cooperative when those fag
                 executives wanted to stick it in his doo-doo hole.  No talent
                 anywhere to be seen.  Idiot.

The Nasty Boys:  They look dumb, they are very slow, they talk dumb, they were
                 given the Tag Belts just so LOD could take em away.  Idiots
                 right down to their missing teeth.

Rick Martel :   Their was a time when Martel used to show off his wrestling
                talents because we all know he has em but now his gimmick has
                gotten the better of him and now he's turned into Tatonka
                fodder.
From: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: SLIM JIM RETURNS... or does he?
Date: 6 Apr 92 10:51:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr6.105122.15149
Reply-To: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


In a previous article, awalsh@mta.ca (Andrew Walsh) says:

>Well, the subject of a great deal of contreversy to come...
>WAS THAT HELLWIG????? 
>I think it was. Damn, was I floored when he flew out there. But he
>got SMALL!!! I guess he hasn't seen a weight room or a needle in seven
>months. He seems to be grey more than brown. But when you looked in his
>eyes... there he was. Seems to be happy to be back too.

I went back and re-watched the tape to get a better look at him.  I'll
probably be proven wrong, but I really think it was Jim.  Either that or
whoever replaced him looks alot like him.  Unless we get some sort of
confirmation from somewhere else, we won't know for sure until we hear
an interview...

>
>Welcome back Jim... we missed ya.

I didn't...   :-)

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From: foleye@xanth.CS.ORST.EDU (Stilt Man)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: What is a mark ?
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:18:35 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University

In article <1992Apr14.175729.21678@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> behm@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (BEHM CHRISTOPHER JOSEPH) writes:
>
>	O.k.  With everybody calling each other "mark" I want to 
>	know what this means.  John Price admits to being a mark.
>	I was called a mark for predicting that Savage would take
>	the belt.  Herb wrote that "smart mark" is an oxymoron.
>	I would wager that John Price _is_ smart and that he doesn't
>	fit the accepted definition of "mark".  Neither do I.
>	Yet, the stupid mark (me) called Savage-Flair while the
>	so-called "real fan" or "r.s.p-w.expert" (Herb) blew
>	it big time (along with all the other "smart" readers
>	of this group). I doubt that there are _any_ marks reading
>	this newsgroup so why don't you find a new insult to hurl
>	at one another instead of this incessant chant of "mark".
>
>
>				John Mastrangelo
>				ice@ntia.its.bldr.nist.gov

What?  And ruin our fun?  We generally tend to mean, when we're saying "mark,"
in reference to others on this newsgroup, is someone who likes the good guys.
There are extremes for it (Little Stinkers/Pukamaniacs) but it is definitely
a relative term.  Yes, we goofed when we said that Savage wouldn't win the
strap from Flair.  We admit it.  We give you credit for being right where we
were wrong.  We don't need to carry sour grapes over it.  Don't worry.  It's
not that bad.  I happen to like the Ultimate Warrior, so technically I'm a
mark in the same context you are for liking Savage.  I've even posted that I
think Flair should get the strap back if only to drop it to UW, so that UW
can claim he's beaten Hogan for his first title and Flair for his second,
thus putting him head and shoulders above any new generation top faces.  Yes,
Price is a mark for liking Hulk Hogan.  You're one for liking Savage.  I'm
one for liking the Warrior.  You don't see me complaining.

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From: andra@cs.widener.edu (Robert Andracsek)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: WM8: Savage - Flair a shoot?
Date: 11 Apr 92 17:31:28 GMT
Organization: Widener University CS Department, Chester PA
NNTP-Posting-Host: maggie.cs.widener.edu

In article <2185.29E676D6@kennel.FIDONET.ORG> Mike.Steiner@p1.f207.n143.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mike Steiner) writes:
>
>Michael Shames-contractor writes about "Re: WM8: Savage - Flair a shoot?" to
>All  [10 Apr 92 17:46]
>
>MS>  sorry and embarassed to admit my ignorance,  whainhell is a 
>MS> "shoot"? 
>
>Ignoring the script and going at it for real.  sometimes the booker will tell
>a wrestler to make it a shoot, in order to teach another wrestler a lesson.
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Now HEY!  Could this be another possibility?  Could something be going
on outside the ring between Flair and Vinnie that we're not aware of?

Just another senseless rumor started by

R. Andracsek
From: jonesra@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (rex jones)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Heel Champs?
Date: 12 Apr 92 17:01:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: bronze.1992Apr12.120145.5677
Organization: Indiana University

In <11APR199221350082@mary.fordham.edu> areid@mary.fordham.edu (Darin Reid) writes:

>Has anyone else noticed that between Ric Flair and Lex Luger, a heel has been
>NWA/WCW champ for most of the 80's & 90's.  On the other hand Titan's champs
>have been overwhelmingly face - Hogan, Savage, Warrior.  The fact that a WWF
>heel never holds a belt for more than the time from Wrestlemania to Summerslam
>is a travesty.  What happened to the days of Superstar Billy Graham?  Maybe
>Vince will suprise us and have a heel become a long reigning champ in the near
>future...NOT!

Let's see...Superstar Graham held the WWF belt for 10-12 months, after a
2.5 year reign by Bruno and followed by a 6 year reign by Bob
Backlund...

The simple facts are that the WWF has NEVER been a heel-world champion
oreitented organization. The WWF uses the IC title and Tag titles for
its heels, and even those are not all that long...



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From: Terry.Baldridge@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Terry Baldridge)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Hey there Tonto, who is that masked man?
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:03:27 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <6APR92163000@acad3.alaska.edu> fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
>In article <1992Apr6.195007.9717@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, behm@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (BEHM CHRISTOPHER JOSEPH) writes...
>>	it was the same UW, Steve DiSalvo. 
>Oh my!  Do we really need to start this thing up again?
>Isn't it getting to be time to have a new running gag in this group?

How about we recycle another old one.  Wouldn't that be the 'green' thing
to do.  We can make Uncle Ted proud if he and Jane are reading.  

Now to decide which one to use.

Terry Ultimate Whatever
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From: v070qg5d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Cornette's New Tag Team
Summary: Lane & Pritchard are Heavenly Bodies
Date: 13 Apr 92 05:09:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

>>    Are you listening Kip?  Break out that wallet and sign these guys up!
>>I miss Cornette, I miss Lane, and Pritchard isn't a bad heel in his own right.
>>Well, it would beat the hell out of J.T. Southern anyway.
>>                                         -Eflow               
>     While it _would_ be better than JT's matches, the logistics of
>bringing in Lane, Cornette, and Pritchard don't work out. Aside 
>from the fact that Smoky Mountain Wrestling is owned by Mr. 
>Cornette, who would most certainly not abandon his baby "just" to
>return to WCW for a while, consider these (also my explanation for
>why, if SMW folds within the year [which it shouldn't] Jimmy and
>Stan won't return :'-( )

   I was not aware that Cornette owns Smoky Mountan Wrestlng, and I had no idea
about the behind-the-scenes activities between Cornette, the Midnights and WCW.
I think perhaps things like this explain why many wrestlers go unsigned.  For
instance, I often wonder why Honky Tonk Man, Bad News Brown and other former
WWFers are not picked up by WCW.  Could it be that Vince still owns their names?
After all, Ax had to be called Axis the Demolisher when he was in Global.  Or is
it just that WCW is not interested?  Does anybody know the legalities 
surrounding ownership of a name and trademarks and all that?


>                                 Thoughts, ladies & gentlemen?
>                                      George
>"Are ya glad ta see us back?!?"
>"Ladies and gentlemen- the gangster of love and the sultan of 
>swing... Beautiful Bobby...Sweet Stan... The Midnight Expresssss!!"
>                                    -James Cornette
>                         (one last time for old time's sake.)


   Yes, things like these quotes are precisely why I would love to see Cornette
back in WCW.  Ahh, the memores....
                                                -Eflow
From: v058kchy@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Joseph Avolio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: GWF (was: Spies on the net)
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:32:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr3.145831.1@jaguar.uofs.edu>, raj1@jaguar.uofs.edu writes...
>In article <1992Apr2.023032.20567@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v058kchy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Joseph Avolio) writes:
>> In article <1992Apr1.205434.7301@acsu.buffalo.edu>, becker@acsu.buffalo.edu (Don Becker) writes...
>>>fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan) writes:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>OB-GWF: Could someone (perhaps Joe Pedicino himself? :) give me a list of
>>>	current GWF champions?
>>> 
>> 
>> .....This is the current GWF champions list:
>> 
>>    North American:  Dark Patriot (won it from the Patriot a couple months ago)
>>                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>>    TV:  Vacant (Eddie Gilbert was stripped last week after referee Sam
>>                 Esposito came out w/2 black eyes and claimed Gilbert attacked
>>                 him in the back)
>> 
>>                                           JoMosh
>Are you sure about this?  About 2 weeks ago (the same week Donahue was on) the
>GWF was suppose to be on all week, except for on Fri., due to golf.  One or two
>days the GWF was cancelled because ESPN coverage of a tennis tourny ran over.
>(This pissed me off because I wanted to catch up on GWF, since I was on spring 
>break, and post results.)
> 
>One of the days, they went off the air about 4:30 (thank God) and ESPN showed
>about 2 matches.  One of them was the Dark Partriot vs. Eddie Gilbert.  It was
>a good match with both men cheating.  In the end, Gilbert won the match and the 
>North American title; they showed him with both belts and that was how the show
>ended, I do believe.
> 
>Can give any updated info on this?

.....Eddie did win the NA title (I didn't get the results of the new TV taping
      until after I posted that).  Also they are going to have a Battle Royal
      to determine the new TV champ.

                                                  JoMosh
From: becker@acsu.buffalo.edu (Don Becker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Brain Teaser Trivia IV Answers
Date: 9 Apr 92 23:01:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: acsu.1992Apr9.230141.985
Organization: UB

hekunze@jeeves.waterloo.edu (Herb Kunze) writes:

>In article <1992Apr9.000114.23592@acsu.buffalo.edu> becker@acsu.buffalo.edu (Don Becker) writes:
>>
>>Maybe it was Wayne Bloom instead. There's no way in hell that was Enos under
>>the mask.

>  At the beginning of the PPV, they announced that Dan Spivey was not in
>  the building, but that Teddy Long had a replacement skyscraper.  They
>  never gave him an official name; they just announced the team as the
>  Skyscrapers.  Jim Ross and Terry Funk took to calling him the Masked
>  Skyscraper. 

>  I don't know how Don can say "there's no way in hell that was Enos"
>  if he's watched the tape.  Certainly, having watched the tape, there
>  *is* no way in hell that it was Wayne Bloom.  The man's build was
>  shorter and pudgier, kinda like....Mike Enos.  Seriously, at the 
>  time it was reported that it was Mike Enos under the hood, and
>  looking at the tape (again) I still believe that to be the case.

From what I remember of the show, the fourth Skyscraper was close to Mark's
height, and from what I've seen of Enos, he's nowhere near 6'6".

Perhaps it was...

...Steve DiSalvo! :)

Seriosuly, could it have been Scott Hall? Hall is close to Mark heightwise,
and his build is/was sort of similar to Herb's description. At the time of
the show, he was in Puerto Rico, but I think he was also on WCW's reserve
list of wrestlers who could be made available.

--Don

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From: ottoh3@CFSMO.Honeywell.COM (Otto Heuer #3)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: [WWF] late WM comments
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:34:42 GMT
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Well, I managed to see two of the WM matches last night:  the eight-man tag
match and Savage vs Flair.

This is the first I've seen BBM since he was a bloated  sack of protoplasm.
I have to admit--he does look good.   He  can give  high boots  to the face
that rival men half his size.  I never  thought I'd  see BBM  with a higher
workrate than Hogan's average matches, but I am quite pleased  to be proven
wrong.

Definitely my vote for "most improved wrestler".

Okay.  This is the second time I've seen Curt  Hennig since  his heel turn.
Ooops..  make that three.  I saw him right when Vince brought him in, I saw
his last (pathetic) match where he dropped the strap, and  I saw  him at WM
as Flair's second.  I'm sorry... he just doesn't work as a heel.  He's just
not believable.  He still looks too much like Howdy Duty or Richie Cunning-
ham.  It's hard to imagine Opie as a heel.

Holy shit!  Is Randy Savage down to 190 pounds or what?!  He actually looks
smaller than the Lightning Kid!  Granted I haven't seen  RS in  quite a few
years--just how much weight can one guy lose?  On BBM it worked...  here it
doesn't.

Might have to be somewhere on my list of "most unimproved wrestlers" in the
WWF.  Excellent juicing by Ric.  Pity he lost.  Hope Randy's title reign is
shorter than 'Taker's.

Liz seems to be a lot flatter than I remember when she came into the Whiff.
Is she off the juice  too?   :-) Maybe  all these  years of  Missy and Lady
Blossom have skewed my viewpoint but she could  almost pass  as Lanny Poffo
instead of Liz Poffo.

I'll try to watch a couple more matches tonight...

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From: buchhosd@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Scott D Buchholz)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: WCW Power Hour
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:28:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucunix.1992Apr7.132811.3036
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <1992Apr5.200355.15707@midway.uchicago.edu> wen5@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <43885@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp) writes:
>>  They showed a clip where Steamboat supposedly got hurt.  He accidently
>>slapped Madusa and looked SERIOUSLY upset that he did it.  NOTE: he acted
>>seriously upset (did his Steamboat in Pain (tm) face)  Meanwhile, the DA
>>came in and beat him up.  
>
>I liked that sell of the chair.  Rude probably kept it abit unfolded before
>he whacked steamboat with it so that you got the sound of metal-on-metal
>which to markdom == metal on bone.  It was a fine sell, and I really like
>the work Rude and Steamboat do.  To heck with Stink.  His feuds with Leon
>White will do little to improve his image in the "Real Fans'" (TM) eyes.
>
>Stan T2 Wen

I thought that this was one of the best run-ins I've seen in a long
time.  The DA circled the ring as Steamboat apologized, oblivious to
everything else.  They attacked, then the faces (Sting, Steiners,
Dustin, etc..) came in to save Ricky.  A whole lot of fighting, and who
could come in to put an end to it all, but NIKITA.  He starts taking out
the entire DA, then sees Sting fighting Eaton (?).  He goes for the
clothesline , it appears to be headed at Sting, but Sting ducks and
Eaton gets it.  Koloff disappears.  Of course, the syndie then replayed
this two or three times, along with Koloff , "The man I must talk with
is not here" interviews.  Also, they distorted Steamboat's face (broken
nose), perhaps a spoof on the WWF.


Anybody else think much of the entire incindent???
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From: hargijk@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: What's Wrong w/ Mr. Perfect!
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:57:36 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY



Just wondering, What's wrong with PERFECT? I'm new to this group so I haven't
been able to read it.

Joey
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From: s4666843@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Liam Kelly)
Subject: Re: Elizabeth
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 01:46:44 GMT

Ahem.  To end all this conversation of "when did they REALLY get
married", I have (hopefully) a convincing enough answer, from one of
those Day-By-Day sports calendars...

November 1981:  Randy Poffo and Elizabeth Butette are married.

Okay, so I don't have the EXACT date.  I assure you, however, it was
November of '81.

  Cheers,
    Liam Kelly (s4666843@tethys.ucc.umass.edu)
From: novotndj@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Quiz #2( NWA)
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:48:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucbeh.1992Apr16.124828.1132
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <0dv57IC00awF49_4gz@andrew.cmu.edu>, sw36+@andrew.cmu.edu (Scott Michael White) writes:
> Quiz #2
> for NWA fans\
> 
> 1.    What was Kevin Sullivans group called consisting of Mike Rotundo
> and Rick Steiner
> 2.     Name 6 wrestlers who were part of The Four Horseman and the
> original manager of them?
> 3.     Besides the Koloffs name another Russian who wrestled for the NWA
> 4.      Name 5 men who have beaten Ric Flair for The NWA HC 
> 5.       Name the tag team that came to the ring with the Beastie Boys
> song (You have to fight for ......) as their intro song




1   Kevin Sullivans group was the Varsity Culb.
2   4-horseman were Tully Blanchard, Rick Flair, Arn Anderson, Olle Anderson
       Barry Windam and Lex Lugar  Manager J.J. Dillin.
3   Good Question I know Ivan Koloff managed a masked suposed Russian Tagteam
        but I don't remember their names.
4   People who beat Rick Flair for the title are Dustin Rhodes, Ron Garvin,
        Sting, Lex Lugar 
5   one was named Chris Champion and someone they were called the new breed 
        I beleive  
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From: wen5@ellis.uchicago.edu (Stan "T2" Wen)
Subject: Re: WCW Power Hour
Keywords: Jim Ross Hotline
Reply-To: wen5@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 20:03:55 GMT

In article <43885@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp) writes:
>  They showed a clip where Steamboat supposedly got hurt.  He accidently
>slapped Madusa and looked SERIOUSLY upset that he did it.  NOTE: he acted
>seriously upset (did his Steamboat in Pain (tm) face)  Meanwhile, the DA
>came in and beat him up.  

I liked that sell of the chair.  Rude probably kept it abit unfolded before
he whacked steamboat with it so that you got the sound of metal-on-metal
which to markdom == metal on bone.  It was a fine sell, and I really like
the work Rude and Steamboat do.  To heck with Stink.  His feuds with Leon
White will do little to improve his image in the "Real Fans'" (TM) eyes.

Jesse the Body did a pretty good job with the new Saturday WCW thing.  He
trades barbs with people as well as anybody.  Ron Simmons was the guest, and
had to resort to showing off his muscles when faced with the question of
how he could avoid Rick Rude's Rude Awakening.  Ah, poor Ron.  No push,
lower workrate, mediocre interviews.  What next, getting beat up by a woman?
;)

Stan T2 Wen