From: u920065@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Cameron Hill)
Subject: Re: Weis and Hickman
Organization: University of Tasmania (Australia)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:40:55 GMT

In article <s1070627.718419452@giaeb>, s1070627@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (Brett Paterson) writes:
> 
> 2120158@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU () writes:
> 
> >In article <1992Sep29.145558.27894@hippo.ru.ac.za> csbk@alpha.ru.ac.za writes:
> >>Brett Paterson (s1070627@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au) wrote:
{ all above deleted }
> 
> I agree here, what the hell is not original about Weis & Hickman?
> I am the one who made the first flame here, and will point out some of their
> works and let see if is resembles Tolkein at all for all you shit heads who
> think otherwise..
> 
> The darksword triology : catalysts to recharge mages?  reproduction system
>                           that does not allow sex?  Modern world with tanks
>                           & technology, along side old world with magic,
>                           who battle it out.  Nope, can't remember this in
>                           Tolkein...
> 
> Rose of the prophet triology : Djinns & Desert nomads? again, I can't really
>                                 think of these appearing anywhere in Tolkein
> 
> Death Gate Cycle : Check out their world, with the realms of fire, earth,
>                     & air etc.  And what about that runic magic system?
>                     Apparently the person who created it went into quantum
>                     physics & chaos theory or something like that just to
>                     make it.
> 
> Tolkein my arse...
> Again, as the previous person stated above..  name the similarities or
> do what he said.
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Hi 
   I agree that the work mentioned above does not resemble Tolkien, but what
the Dragonlance series. In this series there was a group of companions that 
set out to bet the forces of Darkness that was led by a God.( In Tolkien's 
case Sauron was a Demi god)  To do this they go to the free people and 
build an army.  But this army is much smaller than that of the dark.  
However it is not the armies that defeat the dark, it is the companions by
means of destroying some great item (Tolkien had the ring, DragonLance had the 
gem imbedded in Berem's (name may be wrong) chest ).  This of course does
not stop enjoyment of the books.  
			Also has anyone noticed the similarities with non-human races.  All 
dwarves are stocky, bad tempered miners and crafters who fight with elves.
( Death gate cycle did deviate slightly here in book one(I think) ).  
Sure enough, the stockyness and the living in caves comes from mythology, but
the fighting with elves, and the bad tempers, the seems to come from the 
Gimli and legolas conflict with tolkien.
			Another point to consider.  In nearly all fantasy books that involve elves,
they are fair in features and nearly taller than humans.  Also a large number
are proficient with the longbow.  Where does this come from, not mythology,
here elves were a short people that lived with the fairies.  I think it was 
Tolkien that first sterotyped the 'modern' elves.
			Finally two last points. The first, isn't logical for Tolkien to have
a big impact on todays fantasy as he is the one who most likely made 
fantasy into what it is today.  And secondly, is there any need for the 
language that has been flying around the net.

Well thats about it.
Now who likes eddings.


Dean Bailey
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