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From: robertw@informix.com (Robert Weinberg)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: default permissions
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:58:14 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <SINGHAL.92Nov20112727@twins.cs.utexas.edu> singhal@cs.utexas.edu (Vivek  
P. Singhal) writes:
> >>>>> In article <1992Nov20.155216@sld64pki-nbg.philips.de>,  
pla_jfr@pki-nbg.philips.de (joachim friedrichs) writes:
> 
> JF> Does anybody know how to change the default permissions
> JF> (group and others: read) for frame-X.3.1 "save as".
> 
> The csh's umask command determines the default file creation mask.
> FrameMaker uses this mask to set the default values of the Group and
> Public read/write permissions in the Save As dialog box.


I wish. This is what Frame tech support says, but it does not work for me on my  
NeXT. For me, Frame always picks up the permissions of the file it opens, and "Save  
As" then defaults to those. For a New file, I get full write permissions,  
regardless of my uumask.

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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: halberst@world.std.com (jerry halberstadt)
Subject: imported graphics disappear
Summary: imported graphics unmanageable, disappear
Keywords: display, print,windows
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 16:30:39 GMT

Just like the Chesire Cat, my graphics appear and disappear. A specific
image sometimes displays, sometimes fails to display silently, sometimes
Frame says "Can't import/display/print some imported graphics." Sometimes
the images print, sometimes not. Images that don't display, don't print,
but an image that displays does not always print. 

Environment: Frame 3.0 in Windows 3.1, 7MB RAM, ~5-10MB free on hard disk.
Frame is the only application running (although in Windows there may be
several utilities humming in the background).

I have a file with ~35 imported graphics at about 1-2" square each, created
to make a master catalog of tif scanned graphics for placement in a book.
Each file is in a cell of a single table which contains a short line of
text for identification purposes. 

The problem has also happened in other files with fewer graphics, placed in
anchored frames.

It feels like memory management or a software bug in either Frame or
Windows. It looks more like the program can't find the file with the
graphic image than a problem in any file, the display process, or the
printing process. But why could it find the file sometimes and not at other
times? 

Particularly weird is to bring up a graphic and then a few moments later it
is replaced by a grey hole. Or to have it reappear. Like the Chesire cat.
Such behavior suggests that it is not the amount of memory being used, or
available, either RAM or HD. 

Partial workaround: Exit Frame, Restart Frame. Print one page a time:
success, whereas printing all 4 pages yielded only text on the printed page
and one graphic. Even so, get message "Can't print some imported graphics"
and "Can't display some imported graphics".

Although I have scanned nearly all the 50+ illustrations in the book and
need to complete the page makeup, unless I can solve this quickly it will
be simpler to do manual pasteups, putting the graphics in place into holes
made within Frame. But this would reduce my ability to fine-tune the page
layout and sizing of individual pictures. 

Has anyone had this kind of dilemma on any platform and specifically under
windows? I am suspicious of Windows because of frustrating, 3-week saga to
discover from Microsoft that the printer driver had a bug and obtain the
updated driver. However, I'm not seeing any error messages and the other
functions of frame continue to work.

I hope to hear from you soon; Thanks.

jerry

-- 
Jerry Halberstadt	New Technology Publishing, Inc.
POB 9183: c/o Mailboxes Etc.(#110)
955 Mass. Ave., Cambridge MA 02139 USA
617-661-3851		halberst@world.std.com
From: pla_jfr@sld64pki-nbg.philips.de (joachim friedrichs)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Problem with MIF format?  Possibly related to conditional text?
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:26:40 GMT
Reply-To: pla_jfr@pki-nbg.philips.de
Organization: Philips Kommunikations Industrie AG Nuernberg, Germany


In article <1992Nov18.092427.17124@leland.Stanford.EDU>, kevin@simd.stanford.edu (Kevin W. Rudd) writes:

|> Just curious if anyone else had had problems with conditional text and/or
|> MIF format.

To save in MIF format means to loose some information, e.g.
printer settings.  AND, please try it yourself: Save a document
in MIF format, open the MIF file and save it again as MIF file.
Then "diff" the two MIF files. There are differences!

Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: rthomson@mesa.dsd.es.com (Rich Thomson)
Subject: X resource for placement of makerkit window?
Organization: Design Systems Division, Evans & Sutherland, SLC, UT
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 17:11:52 GMT

What is the proper X resource to set in order to get the makerkit
(new/open/help/info/exit) window placed explicitly?

I've tried:

    Maker.makerkit.geometry: 321x65+730+140

but the window is still being placed interactively under mwm.

						-- Rich
-- 
		      Don't blame me; I voted Libertarian
Disclaimer: I speak for myself, except as noted; Copyright 1992 Rich Thomson
UUCP: ...!uunet!dsd.es.com!rthomson			Rich Thomson
Internet: rthomson@dsd.es.com	IRC: _Rich_		PEXt Programmer
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Friday, 20 Nov 1992 14:00:30 CET
From: <SLYNENSK@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject:    Importing text files by reference

...is not supported by FrameMaker. Is there any technique of getting
around this?

We want to include fragments of program code in documents, and
automatically get the documents updated as the code is changed.
We have discussed whether to run the code through a preprocessor
and generate MML input - and import this into a document using
the book facility. Is this the best solution?

Thanks for any "hints" - I shall summarise the results,

Steen Michael Lynenskjold,
Computer Resources International,
European Space Operations Centre (ESOC),
Darmstadt, Germany
From: mhardy@acorn.co.uk (Michael Hardy)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Need to print to edge of page in Mac Frame
Date: 19 Nov 92 10:02:38 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England

In article <1992Nov18.074633.2411@netcom.com> keitru1@netcom.com (Keith Trussell) writes:

>Does anyone know a way to print to the very edge of the page in Mac Frame? 
>
>The capability to print objects off the edge of the page as in "bleed tabs"
>is mentioned in the new features manual included with the latest release, but
>I spoke to a rep on the support line who told me it's a limitation of the Mac 
>printer driver at the OS level to leave about a quarter inch masked edge around
>the page. She knew of no way around this limitation other than to somehow change
>out the Apple printer driver.
>
>I found that I could manually edit the PostScript file to extend the trimmed
>region beyond the page edge, so the masked data is there; but I would like to be
>able to do this from within Frame.
>
>Any hope?

If it's any help, the PostScript generated by the SunView 3.0 version of
FrameMaker includes a clipping rectangle around the edge of the page. You
can get objects to bleed outside this by sending them to the back of the
page; they then appear in the PostScript before the clipping rectangle is
defined.

- Michael J Hardy

  Technical Publications    Email:      mhardy@acorn.co.uk
  Acorn Computers Ltd       Telephone:  +44 223 254352
  Cambridge TechnoPark      Fax:        +44 223 254270
  645 Newmarket Road        Telex:      817875 ACORN G
  Cambridge CB5 8PB
  England                   Disclaimer: All opinions are my own, not Acorn's
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: ask@sei.cmu.edu (Alan Koch)
Subject: Re: Licensing FM
Keywords: Licensing
Organization: The Software Engineering Institute
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:08:56 GMT


In article <1992Nov17.161422.28186@rzu-news.unizh.ch>, suter@rsl.geogr.unizh.ch (Martin Suter) writes:

|> > ... As I understand it, you only need a license to start
|> > using FrameMaker (if that), to save documents, and to print documents.
|> > With a little discipline, several simultaneous users can get by with
|> > one license.  I think our site has five licenses for thirty users ...
|> 
|> Who has more information about this subject? Is the above statement true?

Almost.  You don't need a license to start FrameMaker, nor do you need one to
open or print a document.  You only need a license to edit or save documents. 

The way the license server works, you buy a certain number of licenses, then
in the license file, you can list those who are allowed to use them or those
who are NOT allowed to use them.  You can also specify that certain licenses
are reserved for certain people.  Or, you can list no one.  That way, anyone
who can get to the license server can use FrameMaker.

When anyone tries to do something that requires a license, FrameMaker requests
a license, and the server grants the request if there is one available and
that user is allowed to get one.  After a certain period of inactivity, the
license is given up and others can check it out.  Or the socially sensitive
user will give back his license when he is done using it.

So, the number of licenses should reflect the maximum number of people who can
edit FrameMaker documents at a time.  Best case would be a shop where one
person writes and maintains the online documentation and 200 people read it.
In that case, they only need one license, because only one person will ever
edit or save a document.  If they replace their full-time writer with two
part-timers (one working AM's and the other PM's), then they STILL only need
one license.

Also, the license server can run on a difference machine from the users.  As
long as the network is guaranteed to connect the machines, it works fine.

It's a very good flexible system, and it works well (as long as y0ou buy
enough licenses.)

ask@sei.cmu.edu

Alan S. Koch
Software Engineering Institute
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA  15213
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: connolly@convex.com (Dan Connolly)
Subject: Re: lex&yacc definition of MIF format
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:15:25 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <92318.142107SLYNENSK@ESOC.BITNET> <SLYNENSK@ESOC.BITNET> writes:
>Does anyone have such a thing?

I was looking for such a beast a while ago, and never found one.
But I found that a LISP interpreter that implements a Common Lisp
style readtable (such as XLISP) is a pretty convenient way to 
process MIF files.

After you install the appropriate read table, executing this:
(setq S (read))
given this MIF statement:

<BookComponent 
 <FileName `<c\>misc<c\>Commands_List<U\>/doc/cetrone/Commands_List'>
 <StartPageSide ReadFromFile >
 <PageNumbering Continue >
 <PgfNumbering Continue >
 <PageNumPrefix `'>
 <PageNumSuffix `'>
 <DefaultPrint Yes >
 <DefaultApply Yes >
> # end of BookComponent

returns this lisp expression:

(BOOKCOMPONENT
 (FILENAME "<c>misc<c>Commands_List<U>/doc/cetrone/Commands_List")
 (STARTPAGESIDE READFROMFILE)
 (PAGENUMBERING CONTINUE)
 (PGFNUMBERING CONTINUE)
 (PAGENUMPREFIX "")
 (PAGENUMSUFFIX "")
 (DEFAULTPRINT YES)
 (DEFAULTAPPLY YES))

so you can easily decompose it with (first S) ==> BOOKCOMPONENT
etc.

Dan

Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: moiram@sacajawea.csc.ti.com (Moira Mallison)
Subject: .auto files
Keywords: backup, recovery
Reply-To: moiram@csc.ti.com
Organization: Computer Science Lab, Texas Instruments
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:28:06 GMT


I didn't really want to revert to the last saved version of my
document; I wanted to revert to the last auto-saved version of my document.
So I've lost a couple hours work I did last night.  

But... system backups run nightly, and I have auto-save set to every 5
minutes in my preferences file.  I can't find a .auto file in the
backups though.

I edited a file as a test about 30 minutes ago, and there is no .auto
file in the cwd, or in /tmp.  Is it someplace else.

Or are last night's edits really gone for good?

Thanks,

Moira Mallison	
Computer Science Laboratory
Texas Instruments
From: pla_jfr@pki-nbg.philips.de (joachim friedrichs)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Licensing FM
Keywords: Licensing
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:20:15 GMT
Reply-To: pla_jfr@pki-nbg.philips.de
Organization: Philips Kommunikations Industrie AG Nuernberg, Germany


In article <1992Nov17.200620.11329@asl.dl.nec.com>, terry@asl.dl.nec.com writes:
|> From: terry@asl.dl.nec.com
|> I know of NO reason for having the license time-out value set very high,
|> since the license re-aquisition process is so inoculous and is essentially
|> invisible.  Keeping it high really just wastes your FrameMaker licenses.

One reason: Network performance.
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: Phil Buxton  <Phil Buxton @BNR.ca>
Subject: Re: .auto files
Organization: Bell Northern Research
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2
     <1992Nov19.165839.24339@informix.com>
     <1992Nov19.215426.22771@bmers18.bnr.ca>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:03:26 GMT

Let me repeat that table without the tabs so you can read it.   Sorry
folks!


------------------------------------------------------------------------
|       |      Time = 0      |      Time = 5      |      Time = 8      |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------|
|       |    You open a      |    Frame performs  |   YOU do a manual  |
|       |    document        |     an auto save   |   Save and Exit    |
|=======|====================|====================|====================|
|       |   <filename>       |   <filename>       |   <filename>       |
|       |                    |                    |  (new version)     |
| Files |--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|
| that  |    --------        |   <filename>.auto  |		Removed	 	   |
| are   |--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|
| open  | <filename>.lck     |   <filename>.lck   |     Removed        |
|       |--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|
|       | <filename>.backup  | <filename>.backup  | <filename>.backup  |
|       |  (old version)     |  (old version)     | (was <filename> at |
|       |                    |                    |  Time T = 0) 	   |
------------------------------------------------------------------------
=========================================================================
Phil Buxton        |BNR              |613 765 2980      |FAX 613 765 4908
philb@bnr.ca       |Ottawa, Canada   |ESN 395 2980      |ESN     395 4908
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: singhal@cs.utexas.edu (Vivek P. Singhal)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Two tough questions!
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:57:19
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Austin, CS Dept.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ahhnold.cs.utexas.edu
In-reply-to: gerry@cmu.edu's message of Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:33:45 GMT

>>>>> In article <GERRY.92Nov23153345@onion.cmu.edu>, gerry@cmu.edu (Gerry Roston) writes:
GR> 1. I am having a problem with fmbatch (actually fmprint).  When I try
GR> to print a file using fmbatch, I get the following message:

GR>   lpr: ps: unknown printer
GR>   fmprintdriver.ps: Using /usr/local/share/pkg/xframe/.fminit2.0.ps

GR> The printer the output should be directed to is called mulch.  This is
GR> defined every place it can be.  The only place ps shows up is in 
GR> /usr/local/share/pkg/xframe/.fminit2.0.ps/xresources/Maker.  I was on
GR> the phone with the folks at Frame for quite a while, and the only
GR> thing we haven't tried yet was rebooting my system.   

Create a file in your home directory called ".Xdefaults".  Put the
following line in that file:

	Maker.printerName: mulch

Be sure to restart your X session (and FrameMaker) and see if that
works (no need to reboot your machine, though :-).  Unfortunately,
FrameMaker ignores the $PRINTER environment variable.
--


Vivek

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Newsgroups: comp.text,comp.sys.sun.apps
From: atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall Atkinson)
Subject: Re: Alternatives to FrameMaker
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, DC
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 12:10:39 GMT

In article <kzin.721886247@cc.gatech.edu> kzin@terminus.gatech.edu (John Rudd) writes:

>You can also get Island Write/Draw/Paint.  Suppsedly very nice.  The
>3 sections are apparently very well integrated.  The package has won
>awards and stuff.  And it's $895 per node (i'm not sure what kind of
>license restrictions/options are available).

  Island's products work fine for the most part and are reasonably
priced.  The mail order UNIX applications software places generally
will save you a few hundred from list price.  I have very minor
quibbles with Island Write but a new release is going to be out soon
and those few quibbles might well be fixed in that release.

  Island Write is a lot like MacWrite in concept, Island Draw like Mac
Draw, and Island Paint like MacPaint -- though they are clearly
Motif/OpenLook style rather than Mac style.  This is probably good in
that it lets you have a consistent user interface on the UNIX machine.

Ran
atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil
From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.text
Subject: Re: Include EPS in troff
Date: 21 Nov 92 17:06:24 GMT
Organization: Elegant Communications Inc., Ottawa, Canada

In article <By0yp1.F05@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umwan010@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Nga T A Wan) writes:
>
>	I am wondering if any one knows how to include Encapsulted
>PostScript in a document to be formatted by troff.

It depends on what kind of troff and PostScript driver you have.  Without
knowing that, we can't help you, other than to say that groff and DWB 3
have it built in - consult the documentation.  If you have DWB 2.x,
you'll need something like psfig, plus possibly modifications to
your driver (easy if you have Transcript).  If it's CAT troff (eg:
bundled into SunOS), you need psfig and psroff 3.0 - there's no other
way.
-- 
Chris Lewis; clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca; Phone: Canada 613 832-0541
Psroff 3.0 info: psroff-request@ferret.ocunix.on.ca
Ferret list: ferret-request@ferret.ocunix.on.ca
Newsgroups: comp.text
From: suter@rsl.geogr.unizh.ch (Martin Suter)
Subject: FrameMaker Licensing
Keywords: FrameMaker, Licence
Organization: Remote Sensing Laboratories, University of Zurich
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:10:56 GMT


We are currently evaluating a text processing system for our SUN-Sparcstations
and we think FrameMaker (R) would be nice indeed. I've read an article
on usenet which states:

> ... As I understand it, you only need a license to start
> using FrameMaker (if that), to save documents, and to print documents.
> With a little discipline, several simultaneous users can get by with
> one license.  I think our site has five licenses for thirty users ...

Who has more information about this subject? Is the above statement true?

Thanks in advance for any hint!



-- 
Martin Suter                          suter@rsl.geogr.unizh.ch

Phone: +41 - 1 / 257 51 64            Remote Sensing Laboratories
FAX:   +41 - 1 / 362 52 27            University of Zurich                    
                                      Winterthurerstrasse 190                 
                                      CH-8057 Zurich; Switzerland 
Newsgroups: comp.text
From: jjc@jclark.com (James Clark)
Subject: Re: References and spacing in troff
Organization: None, London, England
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 09:22:27 GMT

In article <3248@ucl-cs.uucp> S.Hodges@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Steve Hodges) writes:

   Can I change the inter-letter spacing in troff/groff, whilst retaining
   proportional spacing?

From gtroff(1):

       .tkf f s1 n1 s2 n2
              Enable track kerning for font f.  When the  current
              font  is  f  the  width  of every character will be
              increased by an amount between n1 and n2; when  the
              current  point size is less than or equal to s1 the
              width will be increased by n1; when it  is  greater
              than  or equal to s2 the width will be increased by
              n2; when the point size is greater than or equal to
              s1  and  less  than  or equal to s2 the increase in
              width is a linear function of the point size.

If this doesn't do what you want, perhaps you can explain more fully
what changes you wish to make to the inter-letter spacing.

James Clark
jjc@jclark.com
Newsgroups: comp.text.desktop
From: saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal)
Subject: Re: ASCII dashes in WP5.1
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:31:34 GMT
Keywords: dash codes

In article <1992Nov13.212708.6484@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz>
edwin@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Edwin Ng) writes:

>saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal) writes:

(that's me!)

>>I have an ASCII file, created under UNIX, that contains a bunch of
>>dashes (-).  I imported it into WordPerfect 5.1 and would like to
>>search for (and replace) the dashes.  simply searching for a dash does
>>not work.  WP's code for a dash is "[-]" but the ASCII dash is "-" (no
>>brackets).  I tried searching fom an mdash (I don't recall the <ctrl>V
>>code) but that didn't work, either.  Can anyone tell me what to enter
>>as the search string so I can find these dashes?

>Have you tried the various <CTRL-V> codes for hyphen, endash and emdash?
>Look in the WP file character.doc or character.tst for the correct
>codes.

Several kind netters sent mail saying that <home><dash> would produce the
correct dash.  It does.

Works great (and less filling).

Thanks for the net.help.
-- 
Sam Saal      kingfish!saal OR saal@kingfish.att.com
	Vayiftach HaShem et Peah Ha`Aton
Xref: sparky comp.text.desktop:462 bit.listserv.wpcorp-l:2587
From: jcao@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU (Jingbin Cao ~{2\>01r~})
Newsgroups: comp.text.desktop,bit.listserv.wpcorp-l
Subject: Re: Importing ps files into WordPerfect
Date: 18 Nov 92 11:38:55 GMT
Followup-To: comp.text.desktop
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business

In article <1e1oq6INN15v@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> leffler@physics.ubc.ca (Steve Leffler ) writes:
=>afarkas@ernie.Princeton.EDU (Andrew Farkas) writes:
=>
=>>Piece of cake.  In your graphics box specify the file name of your
=>>postscript file (assuming it's eps, of course), e.g. d:\pictures\123.ps.
=>
=>>This is far superior to converting to .wpg format.  As an earlier
=>>posting noted, you will only see the phrase Postscript information when
=>>you view the document.  When you print the document (on a ps printer),
=>>you will get the high-quality ps output you want.  Converting to wpg
=>>will allow you to view the graphic, but output quality goes way down.
=>
=>   PostScript files should be converted to .WPG files just like everything
=>else, at least with WP 5.1 for DOS (I assume other versions are the same).
=>When a PS file is converted from within WP (load, then switch to "graphic
=>on disk" and resave the image to a WPG file), the original PS codes are 
=>preserved (and you still can't view the image), but the resulting file loads
=>a LOT quicker than the original .PS file.

I've tried to convert some .ps or .eps files created by Mathematica to
.wpg files without like. I tried the conversion in both wp and the wp
graphics program (don't have the name at the moment). Am I missing
something? I have wp version 5.1.

Thanks in advance for any enlightments.