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From: jamesm@sage.cs.rpi.edu (Michael James)
Subject: Inexpensive TV on monitor?
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 04:03:05 GMT

I saw a blurb in the most recent issue of Byte magazine which described
a board for IBM PC's that would allow the user to toggle between watching
TV on the computer screen and the normal view of the desktop.  It
retailed for somewhere around $300 (to the best of my recollection).

I have been looking for something that will let me do the same thing
on my Mac, but have not found anything comparable.  It looks like some
of the new video digitizing boards that are coming out might do what I
want but they are too expensive for my budget.

Does anyone know of a board for the Mac that is comparable to the
above in functionality and price?

Thanks in advance,
Mike

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From: hmayor@mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu (Heather Mayor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: 9600 bps modem
Date: 29 Sep 1992 20:19:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx

I'm looking for a data only external modem 9600 to network
with a powerbook that has an internal Global Village Silver.
I don't need to buy another fax modem and I don't want to
spend a fortune.  I know compatibility is important!

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From: tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May)
Subject: Re: Ci vs proforma 600 vs just wait till Vii(?)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 17:36:07 GMT

David Farber (farber@linc.cis.upenn.edu) wrote:

: I would like to get a color mac to suppliment my 170 and so the question, 
: Is the Ci a good buy now, or should one get a 600 or wait. What are
: the pro and cons etc.

I just have to comment on this. This is the first time I've seen
someone say they are buying a IIci/etc. as their "second" Mac, to go
with their Powerbook. Usually, of course, it's the other way.

A tribute to the 170, for sure. I have both a IIci (with color and
Radius Pivot monitors, 20 MB of RAM, CD-ROM, several disk drives,
Wacom tablet, etc.) and a Powerbook 100....and I use the 100 over the
IIci whenever I can. Amazing. 

On the question of a IIci itself, I've seen them for $1900, and this
should go lower, as MacWeek (9-28-92) reports that list price is being
cut from $3999 to $2719, for a 5/80 config, and from $4599 to $3089
for a 5/230. Street prices will of course be proportionately lower.

If I had a 170 I'd look seriously at a color card...an 8-bit color
card from Computer Care or Envisio, and maybe others, can be gotten
for around $1000 (don't quote me). This way you'll have the power of
your 170 and color when you need it.

Good luck.

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From: dohle@vax2.concordia.ca (Gordon Dohle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Stylewriter NOT discontinued!
Date: 26 Sep 92 07:56:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep25.021817.13807@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, smt1179@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes...
>According to Tidbits #142 dated 9/22/92, Apple is not discontinuing the
>Stylewriter.  The stylewriter is so poporular that Apple is unable to obtain
>enough printing mechanisms from Canon.  Some of Apple's price lists, such as
>gov't contract and one of the education price lists, require that Apple
>guarantee delivery.  Since they can't due to high demand, they have removed
>it from certain price lists.
> 
> 

This rebuttal is getting tiresome.
It also smacks of stories about bridges for sale.
Either Apple can provide products or not.

If the Stylewriter is in such hot demand, why has the
price dropped so far below the Deskwriter?

Has anyone ever heard of a similar marketing strategy?
Pull it off the price list because it is too popular?

What marketing genius!!!

I put a lot more credence in the rumour that a new
printer is about to be marketed with the Performas.
Except, of course that it is the Stylewriter with a
different name for a different segment of the market.


Gordon
Dohle@vax2.Concordia.ca
From: tsirbasc@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Tsirbas Christos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Let's talk Performas, Boys and Girls
Date: 4 Oct 92 06:57:27 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Guys, 


The speed of the CPU chip is not the only factor in the speed of a computer.
Overall hardware design is important.  Speed is affected by the speed of the 
hard-drive itself, the transfer rate of the SCSI buses, the clock-speed of 
the Nubus slots, the speed of the video chips and other custom chips as well as
the clock speed of the entire system.  I seem to recall that the IIsi, despite the 20mhz 68030 has a 25mhz clock chip (not being too familiar with these things, I don't know if it affects the speed of the overall hardware).  If you've ever
considered buying an accelerator, then you know what I am talking about when I 
say that it is not the speed of the CPU chip that determines overall speed.

I have yet to see more detailed specs on the Performa 600, so I can't say any more than that for now.

Chris in Montreal
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From: nick+@pitt.edu (Nick C De Mello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: color cards and classic II
Date: 4 Oct 92 21:31:49 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <dross.718229833@cs.wisc.edu> dross@cambizola.cs.wisc.edu (Dan Ross) writes:


>There are a couple options I know of, all of which involve buying a "card"
>which is completely external to the machine and in a box.  Radius has
>the "PowerView", designed for use with PowerBooks (which also have no
>expansion slots)--connects from SCSI port to a color monitor.  I don't know
>how many colors it supports.  Aura Systems has the "ScuzzyView" which is
>similar.  (BTW, similar interfaces exist for ethernet for Classic/Classic II/
>powerbooks.)

  You mentioned one of the problems with the PowerView, it's slow.
REALLY slow.  You're limited by the ADB rate.  But, more important
for this discussion, they don't make 'em with grey scale or color,
it's 1-bit.  (Although last time I talked to 'em they said they
were hoping to come out with a grey scale in a year or so...)

                                   --  Nick


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: sfuller@tamsun.tamu.edu (Steven Eric Fuller)
Subject: Re: Apple and NeXT move off of 680x0 base (was Re: 68050)
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 05:40:43 GMT

In article <Sep27.223836.41789@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> ns111310@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (The BLaCKSMiTHE) writes:
>
>In article <1992Sep25.222309.8471@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> Stephen E. Halpin,
>halpin@vsg1.dsg.dec.com writes:
>>Apple and IBM needing millions of PowerPC chips, and Apple
>>and NeXT moving off the 680x0 base, its in Motorolas best
>>interest to put the research dollars in the PowerPC area.
>
>First of all, NeXT is **NOT** moving off of the 680x0 base, except for 
[Stupid Next propaganda deleted]
>NeXT is expected to be releasing a dual 88110 computer called the "brick"

Ok, which one is it? You are contradicting yourself.

>crashed, and they had to reboot under DOS... good luck guys.  Apple has 
>pretty-much abandoned "pink" which was about the only good thing that
>Apple thought of....  since system 7 is a patch on a patch on a patch on a
>patch...
1. Most (all?) of Pink is going into the Apple/IBM venture called Taligent.
2. System 7 was amost a total rewrite of the OS. (So I was told.)
 
>the PowerPC thing is a joke... the first chips won't be out 'till 1994,
>and I'd bet on 1995 AT LEAST before anything comes about as a result of

Well, I guess IBM and Apple are going to be laughing all the way to the bank,
since IBM will supposedly have the first PowerPC out about January 1993.

>it, besides, Apple is targeting the really-low end of the market (which is
Don't confuse 'low end' with 'low cost'. Even the cheapest PowerPC will blow
the doors off your Next.

>fine) but they think they can replace UNIX with a version of MacOS.... I don't
>think so guys...  not in a million years if it is like A/UX...

PowerOpen (the PowerPC OS) will be A/UX 4.0 *and* AIX 4.0. The MacOS will
run on top of it. (and so will DOS,Windows,OS2,perhaps WinNT...) Talk about
compatability!

/s Steve Fuller        sfuller@tamu.edu        Texas A&M University
From: gsgathin@sacam (golando s gathings)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Wanted: appletalk printer setup help
Date: 26 Sep 92 06:00:07 GMT



	I have some simms, but I dont know whether they are 
1Mx9 .. etc .  They are the nine chips to a simm, each chip numbered
as follows:  

	TI
	TMS4C1024DJ

Any help would be welcome..

Golando
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Performas, LCII's and questions!
Keywords: Performa, LCII, fpu, orphan-computer
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:59:28 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

mwnorman@bcarh929bnr.ca (Michael Norman) writes:

>I've been thinking about getting my Dad a Mac LC-type computer (he
>currently has a Apple IIe clone, so the LC's IIe-card is attractive).
>The newly-announced Performa 400 is supposed to be a re-packaged LCII,
>right?

    This is correct. The P400 is just a repackaged LCII.

>Has anything been 'fixed' in this version?  Like memory past 10Megs,
>sound, 32-bit clean, floating-point co-processor, etc, etc???

    Well, the computer is an LCII, so everything that the LCII has or
doesn't have the P400 has/doesn't have. The memory limit is still 10
MB, the sound chip is the same, and there is no FPU but one can be
added. What are you talking about in respect to 32-bit clean? The LCII
has always been a 32-bit clean machine. And what are the etcs you seem
to mention.

>How far apart is this Mac from other Macs - if I bought, say a Performa
>600, will there be any 'gotchas' with respect to my machine and Dad's
>machine sharing data and/or applications?

    Again, I'm not sure I understand what you are talking about. The
Performas are Macs, they work just like every other Mac produced. What
other 'gotchas' have you experienced that might shed some light on what
you are asking?

>Another question is 'Are any of the current line of Macs going to become
>"orphan" Macs?'

    If you would tell me what an "orphan" Mac is, I might understand
what you are asking.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.periphs,comp.sys.mac.programmer
From: akhavan@maestro.bellcore.com (Hamid Akhavan)
Subject: Need a Voice Recognition Product for Macintosh or SPARC. Know Any?
Organization: Bellcore (Red Bank, NJ)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 16:22:10 GMT


Hi,

I am looking for a voice recognition product for either Macintosh
or SUN SPARCstaion. I know of one such product myself, namely the
VoiceNavigator. However, I need something more programmable. I
have to be able to interface with this product via my
own C code. For example, I want to collect a number of digits from
a user (via speech) and display information related to the collected
number set (hence, the need for the code level interface).

I appreciate your e-mail responses and will summarize and post the
results. Thanks.

Hamid Akhavan
Bell Communications Research
(908) 758-5701
akhavan@troy.cc.bellcore.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: dlb5404@tamsun.tamu.edu (Daryl Biberdorf)
Subject: Anyone interested in plotting to obtain HDI-30 connectors?
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 04:54:32 GMT


Since no one on this group has apparently had any luck finding the
HDI-30 connectors that mate to the PowerBooks, I was wondering if
anyone had thought of contacting the manufacturer directly.

If someone who has one of the HDI-30 SCSI cables could determine
the manufacturer (AMP maybe?), it seems like it would be possible
to negotiate a volume buy from the manufacturer, selling them among
ourselves for cost.

Has anyone tried this?  If not, I'm willing to help organize it.

Daryl "Still Balking at $40 for a SCSI cable" Biberdorf
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: wirehead@cheshire.oxy.edu (David J. Harr)
Subject: Other Scanner stuff...
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Summary: Need 8 bit upgrade
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:16:00 GMT

Another scanner question: Does anyone know who it was who used to
make the upgrade that would take an Apple scanner to a full 8-bit
grayscale? They used to advertise in MacUser and MacWorld, and
their ad had a blowup of an electron micrograph of an ant's head.
Any contact information would be greatly appreciated.

David.

wirehead@cheshire.oxy.edu
From: viralbus@daimi.aau.dk (Thomas Widmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: LCD keyboards???
Date: 30 Sep 1992 15:19:47 -0500
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In the "old" computer world (Unix, IBM PC ...) nothing but an English keyboard
was needed as it was (and is) nearly impossible to agree on where to put the
national characters in the ASCII area of 128-255.
In the Mac world, on the other hand, it has never been a problem to write a
lot of "odd" languages, e.g., my own Mac treats Danish just as perfectly as
it treats English (or so I think, I've never seen the English system!). Also
the Japanese, Korean, Hebrew and Arabic systems work well, I think.
With system 7.1 it will be even easier to use and mix the different languages
of the world, but one great problem remains:
When you try and write another language than the language the keyboard of
which you are using, it often gets very difficult to remember where the
keys are placed in that keyboard layout. Of course there is a "view keyboard"
option within the Apple menu, but it is not very practical to keep this on the
screen while you write a text.

I therefore wonder whether it would be possible to build an LCD keyboard where
the key symbols would change whenever you would change the language???

Hello to all you little Mac people out there!!!
Thomas Widmann/Mac SE 4/40
viralbus@daimi.aau.dk


Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.hardware:18049 comp.sys.m68k:1175
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Tuesday, 29 Sep 1992 16:49:30 EDT
From: <REE700A@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.m68k
Subject: Re: 68050
 <1992Sep25.111936.8087@cs.ruu.nl>

Fact:  a 50 MHz 486 can do 50 Million Instruction per second, for a very
carefully chosen group of instructions.  The same holds true for a 68040.

Fact: Not all instructions are capable of executing in one cycle.

Fact: A 50 MHz 486 WILL do about 20-25 MIPs on a useful set of code.

Fact: The 586 is a dual processor and can execute two instructions
simultaneously, if they are compatible.  Also, more of the instructions
execute in 1 clock cycle (according to an anonymous Intel source), so
a 66 MHz 586 MIGHT hit 100 MIPS on some code (Ok, that one's conjecture!)

Fact: There won't be a decent OS for the F***** chip, so we'll all run
System 8 on a 68050!

Jeff Andle   DoD #3005  1976 KZ900     REE700A@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: kjh+@cs.cmu.edu (Kenneth Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: NEC's DPI-On-The-Fly for Quadras
Summary: NEC offers free CDEV for changing resolution of FG series w/ Quadras.
Date: 1 Oct 92 19:44:11 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

[This post is made to inform Quadra / NEC Multisync owners of the
 availability of free software that allows resolution changes to be made
 through a CDEV (rather than swapping cables).  Other than serving as
 a beta test site for the product, neither I nor my company, Entelechy
 Corporation, have had any involvement in this matter. ]

**begin quote**

Today the NEC Graphics Group is happy to announce DPI-On-The_Fly Software for
Macintosh Quadra computer users.  DPI-On-The-Fly is display mode 
switching software for Macintosh Quadra 700, 900, and 950 computers.

A Monitors Control Panel Extension (software that goes in the system 
folder), DPI-On-The-Fly software allows Macintosh Quadra users to select 
1 of 3 key display modes (640x480, 832x624, 1152x870 resolution) 
available from the Quadra's on-board video circuitry.  This is while 
useing a NEC MULTISYNC FG MONITOR.

With DPI-On-The-Fly software and NEC's multiple frequency MULTISYNC FG 
MONITORS, Quadra users can now customize their desktop to best suit the 
applications they use.  For example, users may want to switch to a high 
resolution when viewing a word processing document or more cells in their 
spread sheet, or to a low resolution for presentation applications or 
QuickTime movies.  (QuickTime is a multimedia sofware standard for 
Macintosh computers.)

DPI-On-The-Fly software is available FREE OF CHARGE to current NEC 
MultiSYnc monitor owners.  The Software will also be bundled with the 
MultiSync 5FG &6FG monitors, and in the MultiSync FG Macintosh 
Configuration Kit for MultiSync 3FGx &4FG users.  Anyone who would like a 
copy of the software to use with their existing MultiSync monitor must 
call NEC at 312-622-7427.  The serial number of the NEC MultiSync monitor 
must be provided in order to receive a free copy.

The following chart explains the capabilities DPI-On-The-Fly software 
offers with NEC MultiSync FG monitors on Macintosh Quadra computers!

resolution/refresh       3FGx/4FG (15")       5FG (17")       6FG (20")
640x480/67 Hz                58 DPI            51 DPI           40 DPI
832x624/75 Hz                75 DPI            67 DPI           53 DPI
1152x870/75 Hz                n/a              93 DPI           72 DPI

DPI = dots per inch

**end quote**

Kenneth J. Hughes        (kjh@cs.cmu.ed)
Entelechy Corporation
From: tsirbasc@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Tsirbas Christos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Apple and NeXT move off of 680x0 base (was Re: 68050)
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:05:28 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Steven Fuller writes:

The PowerPC's will be out in January '93 (I am quoting verbatim)
According to MacUser, these machines will be out third quarter or 
1993, which means sometime between September and December of next year.

BTW as concerns the PowerPC Macs blowing away all the competition.

I spoke to somebody at Apple who shall remain nameless.  He is currently
using a Quadra 950 (33mhz 68040) and he tells me he is planning to
upgrade to a PowerPC, now considering that the Quadra is a 9,000 buck 
machine vs. the 1st PowerPC-Mac which will be in the neighbourhood of
3,500 U.S., I don't need much convincing that low-cost means low-power.

Chris Tsirbas
tsirbac@brise.ere.umontreal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay)
Subject:  TI Laser Printer
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:28:18 GMT


Anyone have any opinions or know of any magazine reviews on Texas Instruments'
ML PLUS 17/AT?  I have a user who would like to purchase one for use with 
both her SUN SPARC and Macintosh LC II.  THANK YOU.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: martin@cs.curtin.edu.au (Martin Dougiamas)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Better PB100 Trackball
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 05:45:21 GMT

bachww@rtsg.mot.com (Bud Bach) writes:
>This may be a FAQ but does anyone know where I might find a better
>trackball for the PB100.  By better, I mean one feels like it has some
>weight behind it.  The ball in there now is pathetic...  -- Bud

You can buy 1-inch-diameter glass marbles from your local toy-store
that will do the trick nicely.
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From: sakaria@vipunen.hut.fi (Sakari Aaltonen)
Subject: 030 Accelerators for the SE?
Reply-To: sakaria@vipunen.hut.fi (Sakari Aaltonen)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 09:01:59 GMT

Apple seems to have discontinued SE/30 upgrades. Looking for an alternative,
I compiled the following list with the aid of MacWorld magazine 9/92:

 MacWorld 9/92   030 Accelerators for the SE
                                               price USD
 s e l l e r         b o a r d        MHz   no FPU    w/FPU
 Mac Connection      AE TransWarp     25        ?      800
 Mac Zone            NewLife          16        ?      720
                     NewLife          25        ?      820
 Mac's Place         AE TransWarp     25        ?      790
 Mac Center          NewLife          16      400        ?
                     NewLife          25      680        ?
 Mac Products        Railgun          16      400      450
                     Railgun          25      500      550
                     Railgun          33      700      750
 LLB                 Novy             25      525        ?
                     AE Transwarp      ?        ?      730
 Peripheral Outlet   Quik30           25        ?      530


Would anyone care to comment on these? The companies are as important as
the boards, as I would surely not be able to start any legal action if
anything goes wrong. 

Thanks in advance
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