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From: carol@ee.uts.edu.au (Carol Gibson)
Subject: Headless Chickens
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney, Australia
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 00:31:50 GMT

	I saw the Headless Chickens on saturday night - they're on
a tour of Australia at the moment, so check 'em out! They were supported
by the fabulous Caligula and some strange little rap duo they brought
with them called "MC OJ and the Rythm Slave". I found the latter
pretty laughable, but then I've never found straight rap very interesting.
They had the act down pat though, and have obviously spent many, many
hours watching videos of their favorite rappers - even to the point of picking
up the american black homeboy accent (amusing coming from a couple of
white lads from NZ..)

	Caligula were great - lots of people danced and had a good time.
Their radio numbers went down extremely well - I particularly enjoyed
the Full Metal Jacket one ("sound off like you got a pair!"). The Headless
Chickens were incredible live - it was the first time I'd seen them and
I only knew a few songs from the radio, but I was extremely impressed.
Every one of their songs has so much to it - bizarre little samples, tense
guitar bits, insistent drum beats and brilliant vocals. All in all a
powerful sound. The sort of music that you close your eyes and get lost in,
while at the same time tapping your feet and enjoying the rythms.

	The Headless Chickens are yet another one of the quality, *original*
acts to come out of New Zealand. They've played all their Sydney shows
now I think, but they should be passing through most of the other
Australian cities in the next couple of weeks.




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From: Brad Hughes <brad@uts.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Ministry / Iron Maiden Tours ??
Organization: CCSD, University Of Technology Sydney
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:22:49 GMT
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In article <1992Sep8.070617.1273@ccsd.uts.EDU.AU> Matthew Hall,
mjhall@socs.uts.edu.au writes:

>OK folks,
>
>I've been hearing rumours for a couple of weeks about tours in
>October for these two bands.
>

Haven't heard anything concrete regarding Ministry as yet... certainly
hope they bring their special brand of aural assault here ASAP.

>Anyone have any solid info? (In particular the Sydney shows)
>

As fair as solid info is concerned, yesterday's (Wednesday 9th) Telegraph
Mirror had a short piece saying that the Iron Maiden tour had just been
announced and that they would be playing two shows.

One in Melbourne, one in Sydney, with the Sydney show to be at the Horden
on October 23.

Support is Judge Mercy. (Cool)

>By now I would have expected ticket sales for at least the Iron Maiden shows,
>(I mean I bought AC/DC tickets _months_ before their shows).
>

Not to sure about ticket sale dates.

>Any information will be greatly appreciated

No problemo.

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From: carl@ecr.mu.oz.au (Carl_Ivan BREWER)
Subject: Re: Aus Jazz
Organization: Dept. Engineering Computer Resources, Melbourne Uni.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 05:08:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.042310.8562@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> chuck@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Andrew Hawling) writes:
>Is there anybody out there who sees and listens to Australian jazz acts beyond the
>level of people such as James Morrison and Vince Jones. I'm always interested in
>new suggestions of people to see.

a plug:  my mum's husband runs the "Australian Cotton Club" Orchestra,
they play in Melbourne a lot, and have 2 CD's released, and one more
they're mixing now

that's all I know ...


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From: cde@mulka (Colin Entwisle)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: Black Hole (was Re: Sequencers, guitars etc
Date: 8 Sep 92 23:01:35 GMT
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brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May) writes:
: 
: |> 	(probably cause it was one of the last you made)
: |> 	Have a listen to comercial radio, and tell me what the
: |> hell u2, farnam, barnsy, brathweight, etc are if not bad guitar bands.
: 
: "bad" in this case being your subjective opinion of personal taste.  
: Hardly a convincing argument. I think he was referring to the bands being 
: bad "technically".  If not, the same applies.

Actually Mr May if you'd been following the discussion, sorry I mean mindless
arguement, you would know that I have been objected to that very type of thing
and the above was by way of example of how the same subjectiveness could be
applied to all music forms and that it is ridiculus for people to say things
like "anyone can write a dance hit"
	"it's easier for bad sequencer music to get air play "
		etc.

	it would seem the point is made

: [more diatribe]
: 
: |> 	Oh and someone (name withheld) just told me that last week
:                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: |> someone was saying all this sort of arguement was juvenelle.
: 
: why keep us in 'suspense'?

Cause its some one I work with who doesnt write to this group - so I 
assumed the name would not be interesting.  However how about I say it
was Mickey Mouse - suspence alliviated?

: 
: |> Damn I wish I'd noticed that post - to see how mature people think.
: |> Was it the guy from the ABC showband who writes in here sometimes
: |> and seems pissed at the moment about people prefering to talk about this
: |> than the far more sophisticated listing of favourite bands.
: 
: I would hope everyone reading the group appreciates talk about music which
: doesn't rotate in ever decreasing circles whilst degenerating into an
: out-and-out slanging match of "my music is better than yours" etc etc
: arguments.
: 
: If you'd bother to think for a second I'm asking people to talk about their
: 'favourite' local music so that some more of it might be exposed to the 
: audience of this group.  If you're opposed to that - then keep your mind 
: locked up where it is.

Well it could be said (but I wouldn't be cable of it - better stick to 
the slanging matches) that dsicussions about radio stations, their merits,
forms of music, and their merits - performs a similar function.
Are you saying "my topic is better than yours" instead of "my music is
better than yours". 

: 
: Do you have anything constructive to say about music?  Please do.
	"make it funky"
: 
: You should read rec.music.industrial Colin, it is perfectly suited to you.
: 
: get thee to a life dispenser.
: 
: brian

thanks for the directional guidence!
Newsgroups: aus.music
From: carl@montebello.ecom.unimelb.EDU.AU (Carl Brewer)
Subject: Re: Roger Waters New CD
Organization: Dept. Engineering Computer Resources, Melbourne Uni.
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 00:04:52 GMT

In article <edd151s.716566586@nella1.cc.monash.edu.au> edd151s@nella1.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr I.P. Rayner) writes:
>
>Well, now that Roger Waters' new CD, 'Amused To Death', has been released,
>and I've had a chance to listen to it, I was wonderring what other people
>out in the net-world thought of it.

don't know yet, but I'm off to get it *today* :)

>
>Personally, I really like it!  But I could every so often hear echoes of his
>previous work.  Example, the missile from   Final Cut, the dog from Radio
>KAOS, some similar bits from the Wall.  

hey Roger, I like your style !!


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From: neilex@brt.deakin.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: Tell us (aus.music) about _your_ local bands
Date: 9 Sep 92 05:34:30 GMT
Organization: Deakin University, Melbourne

In article <1992Sep7.230200.1216@mel.dit.csiro.au>, brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May) writes:
> 
> obvously no-one gives a shit about local talent.  You'd rather argue
> about semi-automatic gearboxes on formula one race cars or post brainless
> charts.  so it goes.


43 Beans are a band that I picked up on through nu-music and have subsequently
had the pleasure of dealing with performing live to air on a Sunday night.
They play a style all their own with acoustic rhythm guitar, electric lead 
(but not rammed down your throat), bass and drums.

They released a 6 track CD on August 22, and will be playing at the esplanade
hotel tonight (Wednesday) at around nine o'clock.  They are currently doing
well on RRR, and are well worth a listen.

2nd Hand man was the track on nu-music 3 (track 3) and is a reasonable
representation of their more mellow material.

See them if you have time!

Neil Wallace
neilex@viccol.edu.au
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From: pet@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (paul eng-yi tan)
Newsgroups: aus.music,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: THE BIGGEST SELLING ALBUM IN THE UK (this week) IS *AUSTRALIAN* !!!!
Date: 7 Sep 92 01:25:11 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia

jamie@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Jamie Scuglia) writes:
>Crowded House, with WOODFACE?  No.

>Anyway, I think it is really fantastic that little Kylie from
>Melbourne can notch up the biggest selling album this week in the UK!
>Good on her!!!

Um. Actually, most of Kylie's hits would more accurately be titled
Stock Aitken Waterman feat Kylie. They wrote and arranged and produced
(and released, if I'm not wrong) MOST of her "greatest hits" if not
all. (btw Jason apparently was showing off his new Brit passport a while
back). So most of the "biggest selling album in the UK" is British.

INXS did top the UK charts on debut week though, didn't they? Correct
me if I'm wrong. But well done, esp since the new album is the
most alternative one they've ever done...

Paul... 


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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May)
Subject: Re: Synth Music : Andrew Thomas Wilson
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 08:36:10 GMT


In article <robg.716543719@citr.uq.oz.au>, robg@citr.uq.oz.au (Rob Geraghty) writes:
|> To all lovers of electronic music
|> 
|> (if you like Jarre, or Vangelis, you'll like this)
|>

Which are of Jarre's music is it like?  You've got the atmospheric late
70's stuff (equinoxe, oxygene), then the slightly sterile _magnetic fields_,
weirder _zoolook_ and....then I started to lose interest......


|> Have a listen to Andrew Thomas Wilson's CD
|> 
|> Oz : Tales from the Blue Ship
|> 

..you might want to tell people how to get it (cat # or distributor etc)

brian
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From: carl@ecr.mu.oz.au (Carl_Ivan BREWER)
Subject: Re: Chris Wilson and the Crown of Thorns
Organization: Dept. Engineering Computer Resources, Melbourne Uni.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 03:13:17 GMT

In article <9225412.11446@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> andrewd@ecr.mu.oz.au (Andrew_John DISSELDORP) writes:
>> room again :)
>
>	I must second this. I first saw Chris Wilson about 6 months ago,
>(when you didn't have to pay to see him :-), on a friends recommendation.
>Amazing voice, and an amazing stage act. He walks around like he is
>pschycopathic.  

yeah ...  he's a gun performer !!

>	Actually the reason why I went along initially was because of his
>excellent guitarist, Shane O'Meara. Very good guitairist. The drummer is the
>drummer from the Black Sorrows. I've seen the Bull sisters at CW gigs 
>occasionally. 

I was pretty impressed, some *hot* slide guitar :)

but I had eyes for the bass ...  :)

>
>	His album Landlocked is pretty good, as was his effort on Live at
>the Wireless. My favourite songs at the gigs are Hard Land, The big one and
>that hot chocolate cover they do. Sensational. Oh yeah, If you can hear (and
>understand) what Chris Wilson says, you find he can be pretty funny too.
>Anyone who went to the corner hotel a month ago, or listened to the live at
>the wireless set will know that.

yeah, "everyone's a winner baby ... "  *magic*  :)
Best damn night I've had in ages ... :)


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 Dochoel Dienve                           carl@munagin.ee.mu.oz.au
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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May)
Subject: Fauves new EP
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 05:48:09 GMT


Heard a track from the forthcoming Fauves EP "tight white ball-hugger"
today.  It's like the Fauves of the past (dark/tense/REM-ish/slightly eccentric)
but more towards a 'rock' feel.  Hopefully they'll have more tracks like
"Daughter Abroad" or "Scrupulosity" on the new EP.  Oh yeah, they're from
Melbourne (Mooraduc)

brian
(title comes from the bass players jeans)
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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: pearson_r@maths.su.oz.au (Robert Pearson)
Subject: Re: Aus Jazz
Reply-To: pearson_r@maths.su.oz.au (Robert Pearson)
Organization: Mathematics, University of Sydney
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 01:36:19 GMT

     chuck@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Andrew Hawling) writes :

>Is there anybody out there who sees and listens to Australian jazz acts beyond the
>level of people such as James Morrison and Vince Jones. I'm always interested in
>new suggestions of people to see.

>chuck

     A group I especially like is The Necks. This is a trio consisting of
Chris Abrahams, Lloyd Swanton and Tony Buck who play basically "free-form"
jazz on piano, bass and drums/percussion.
     I haven't seen them live, but I have both of the CD's they have released
("Sex" and "Next") as well as a tape of a live concert they did on ABC-FM
last year. The "Sex" CD in particular is worth investigating IMHO. It is
just one piece about 56 minutes long!
     They are apparently going to release a third CD soon. I am looking forward
to that one.
     Also I would suggest the following Australian jazz groups :
Clarion Fracture Zone
The Last Straw
Ten Part Invention 
     They also have some good stuff on CD.
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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: andy@research.canon.oz.au (Andy Newman)
Subject: Re: Tell us (aus.music) about _your_ local bands
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 06:24:04 GMT

brent@socs.uts.edu.au writes:
>NSW state final of the university band competition was great. I can't
>post a review because I can't remember anyone's name. I don't even
>know who won! I had a really good time, though. Ten student bands,
>all good, some excellent. I even got a free JJJ condom.

The Remnants came second (thats all I know, they're friends of mine.)

More good bands? The ones I'm in! No seriously I saw Nemisis the other
day, they were quite good. A bit like the Godfathers. Beard are
interesting (if you can find them playing, try the Sando).
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From: pears@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Arnold N Pears)
Newsgroups: melb.general,aus.music,rec.music.early
Subject: Re: Cantigas - Mediaeval Music concerts
Date: 14 Sep 92 08:28:27 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

In article <1992Sep11.152358.3536@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au> jonathan@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au writes:
>Exciting and dynamic mediaeval group CANTIGAS presents a series of 8

Please, who are the members of this group??

Arnold. Pears.
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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: pet@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (paul eng-yi tan)
Subject: Re: Sequencers, guitars etc
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 04:18:35 GMT

carl@ecr.mu.oz.au (Carl_Ivan BREWER) writes:
>>hell u2, farnam, barnsy, brathweight, etc are if not bad guitar bands.

>IMHO they are good guitar bands.  They seem to sell a few records,
>and have a few people go to their concerts too, so maybe I'm not 
>alone in that opinion?

Does Farnham write his own songs? Does he play the guitar on his recordings
and on stage? Ditto Braithwaite? 

BTW Braithwaite and Farnham use quite a lot of synth and I think I heard
a drum machine on Higher than hope or whatever that pseudo-stone roses
intro song is called. Farnham's albums are full of fairlight if i remember
correctly. Especially Whispering Jack. By Carl's own definition, that
makes the music crap! 

I don't think you can judge music by how much it sell, either. A lot of
good music of the classical age was not championed until the composer himself
was dead! During his life, his music was often not liked.

If you are the kind of person who checks out the charts and buys #1,2 and 3
on the basis that high sales = good music, then I guess you acknowledge that
Michael Jackson is the best in the world because he's had the biggest ever
sales for an album. Vanilla Ice is excellent. Groove is in the Heart is
a brilliant song. etc.

No, I don't think sales indicates good music.

Seeyall! :) All the above is my opinion, of course. No flame. All to
be taken with a liberal amount of salt and smileys

Paul

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From: carl@ecr.mu.oz.au (Carl_Ivan BREWER)
Subject: Re: Sequencers, guitars etc
Organization: Dept. Engineering Computer Resources, Melbourne Uni.
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 06:43:24 GMT

In article <pet.716013887@munagin> pet@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (paul eng-yi tan) writes:
>carl@ecr.mu.oz.au (Carl_Ivan BREWER) writes:
>>to write a piece for more than about 4-5 instruments and have it sound good!
>
>Here's the rub. Guitar bands have 4-5 inst. A synth song has so many virtual
>instruments it's not funny. And often it's all done by One person.

so it hads only the one creative influence ! unfortunatly, my 
ear can pick synthetic sounds quite well,  now, I don't mind them,
and sure, it takes skill to combine them into a workable melody,
but *I* prefer real instruments.  

>
>>Pink Floyd
>Excuse my ignorance, but I though Floyd used keyboards as well...
                                                        ^^^^^^^
hmm, I think they just might ...

>
>>Sisters of Mercy
>Don't they use any synths?

and even a massed choir ? !

>>Dire Straights (when I'm in the mood)
>I thought they did too...

have been known to ...

>
>You must excuse me, I don't go out of my way to listen to those...

excused :)

>I don't think there's anything wrong with sampling other people's music.

the next time I hear that stolen bit of Queens' under pressure I'm
going to throw the radio out the window !!

>Even the great composers used to rip off each other's gestures, themes,
>and styles, as tribute to each other or perhaps some of them even weren't
>that creative! It's a lot "worse" to do a cover version IMHO, esp if you
>don't substantially change it. One of the worst is the new version of
>"the best" by tina turner feat Jimmy Barnes. It sounds almost the same to
>me... Still, I think that cover versions are OK when they are reworked
>in a different way to the original...

hmm, I have to admit, that the cover GnR did of live and let die was 
pretty good, and the Who doing twist and shout was great live,  but
the next pox band to do a synth stairway to heaven ...

ok,  as you have gathered, I don't mind synths,  as an extra to the
"standard" band, however,I'm not so keen when synths, sequencers etc
are used *instead* of real instruments.    Viz:  I like Floyd, 
because they not only use synths well,  but they manage to have a human
feel to their music, mainly because of Gilmore (his voice?  :) )

somehow humans just sound so much warmer, maybe I should go live in
a hippy commune for a bit and live on grass and lentils?  :)


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 Dochoel Dienve                           carl@munagin.ee.mu.oz.au
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From: t9014123@phillip.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Australian MusicVideo Shows
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:56:15 GMT
Organization: RMIT (Bundoora Campus)


Congratulations to Van Halen for scooping the pool at the MTV video awards 
yesterday.  They won three awards, all for the video 'Right Now'.  Also 
Red Hot Chili Peppers and U2 picked up awards.  Jeez, don'ya hate it when  
crappy Australian radio + TV shows don't play any of the music you like!   
  
It's sort of a vicious circle here lately, apart from the odd ripper night 
from Rage when they play the entire KISS catalog, every other show (including   
 
the end of Rage) ONLY PLAYS TOP 40 VIDEOS!!!  MTV has been averaging a 2-3am    
 
start lately, and when I do watch it, all I see is BLOODY (c)RAP!  "Yo",   
"Home boy"... or lame covers by dance acts (I refuse to call them bands) who    
wouldn't know what a guitar looked like.        
  
Saturday morning is a nightmare!  I sit there with the remote and flick   
between 7 and 10 (two shows on at the same time both with the words Video 
Hits in their name), and I can easily get the same song on both channels
at the same time!  This is pathetic!!
    
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