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From: sfd@neuromancer.metaphor.com (Scott Drellishak)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: What IS the complete list of Star Wars books?
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:09:30 GMT
Organization: Metaphor Computer Systems
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In-reply-to: mel@Armstrong.EDU's message of Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:07:33 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.200733.22372@Armstrong.EDU> mel@Armstrong.EDU (Mel F. Buchheit) writes:
 >In article <1992Jul28.041739.9387@ultb.isc.rit.edu> djt2445@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
 >>I seem to recall a Lando Calrissian series.
 >>
 >>Authors' names would be appreciated.
 >
 >The author's name was something Neil.  I'll go home and find out (if I
 >can find were I buried them.)

L. Niel Smith.  These books sucked hard.  There was *no* Star Wars "feel"
to them, while the Han Solo books reeked of Republic and Empire.  IMNSHO.

Scott
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From: darkstar@pecan.cns.udel.edu (The Janitor Of Anarchy)
Subject: Re: STAR WARS QUESTION
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Summary: Where Is He?!?
Keywords: nice butt, loves kids, always on the net, etc,...
Organization: The Green Circle Of Vengence
Distribution: galaxy
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 01:47:08 GMT


In article <1046.554.uupcb@matrix.sbs.com> jerry.farris@matrix.sbs.com (Jerry Farris)  writes:
>Hello, I'm a Star Wars cellector and I'm wondering if any of you have a
>current price list as to the values of action figures and toys.
>
>BTW, there's an action figure that is mistery to me. It's the
>"Death Squad Commander". I've seen this figure listed in several price
>guides, but he is not listed on the back of any of the cards I can find.
>I've looked on Empire, Both versions of Jedi, and the Power of the Force
>cards. Can somone please tell me what it is about this figure?
>
>                                     thanks,
>
>                                        Jerry
>                                                                    


Well, that's because you're looking at the wrong cards.  The figure that
you would see listed as the Star Destroyer Commander on all of those
cards was originally one of the first twelve figures ever released. 
During the release he was called the Death Squad Commander.  I hope that
this helps...



	--Jerry



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From: mohr@leland.Stanford.EDU (Paul William Mohr)
Subject: Another Han Solo Blooper?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 01:28:39 GMT

I have a question.  In ROTJ, why does Han immediately have any desire to
help out Lando when he's about to fall into the Sarlacc?  As I recall, the
last thing Solo would remember about Lando is that he sold them out to the
Empire (Unless I've forgotten something in between...).  If that's the case
I would think Solo would just blast him.  Any comments?

Another thing, completely unrelated:  There's been a lot of talk about the
Emperor's line about DS2 being "fully operational".  If I remember right, he
said, "...armed and operational battle station!"  (note lack of the word
"fully.")  This is probably nit-picking, but it appears as though there's 
at least room for the notion that not *every* system on DS2 was *fully*
operational.  Just an observation.  (Not that I want to get into the ST vs SW
thing.)


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From: tsmaster@media.mit.edu (David LeCompte)
Subject: Re:  Who didn't get figures made of them?
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:40:54 GMT

In article <l78bqdINNotg@aludra.usc.edu> joshuali@aludra.usc.edu (Joshua Ling) writes:
>In article <9207271653.AA17454@TIS.COM> sas@TIS.COM writes:
>>
>>Also what about things other than action figures, like Boba Fetts ship?
>>
>They made Boba Fett's ship. Slave I.
Yup, I think that I still have mine.

>What is everyone's most and least favorite cantina and/or Jabba's palace
>creature?

How about Salacious Crumb? Is there a Dickens allusion that I'm missing in
his name?




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From: tkogoma@vesta.unm.edu (Gym Z. Quirk)
Subject: Re: HTTE SourceBook Out?
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 19:34:20 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: na

In article <wyman.712595984@opal8> wyman@rtsg.mot.com (Mark S. Wyman) writes:
>I heard this was out for the Role PLaying game.  Can
>anyone confirm this and if possible let us know how
>it is.

It's out.

There isn't much there which you can't pull out of either the
Imperial or Alliance sourcebooks (No new tech to speak of).

The 'background' is pretty routine, mixing some mild speculation with
the events given in HTTE.  (At least West End says.  "If you haven't
read HTTE, *do so* and then get back to this book.  There are things
here mentioned which would spoil the novel if known in advance."
Probably the first Spoiler warning in a sourcebook I've ever seen. ;-)

The Character backgrounds given for Luke, et al. are essentially the
same from the original RPG Sourcebook(s), with a little updating.  The
'new' character backgrounds and stats aren't particularly surprising.

[Actually, there is one major problem I've found.  Luke's 'template'
has changed from 'Brash Pilot' to 'Jedi Knight'.  His 'Mechanical' stat
dropped from 4D to 2D+2 or thereabouts.  I find this sort of
retconning irritating.]

On the whole, I'm slightly disappointed with the book.

>Mark Wyman


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From: rlbell@babbage.waterloo.edu (Richard Bell)
Subject: Re: Star Wars vs. Star Trek, tech & tactics, etc.
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:11:30 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.103955.8494@cs.ruu.nl> mmhazewi@cs.ruu.nl (Maarten Hazewinkel) writes:
>
>Well, it was my understanding that the external generator of the DS2 shield
>was deactivated at this time.
>
>As for small ships being able to penetrate shields, while large ships
>can't/don't, I could say this:
>Fighter may have onboard a device that allows them to weaken a shield
>locally, enough to slip through without damage. This would also account
>for the great importance that is obviously attached to fighters in combat,
>as they would be able to deliver strikes inside the enemy shields, while
>bigger ships first have to pound through them.

The A-wing that took out the bridge of a star destroyer was out of control
and probably no longer on power, yet the mystery device still worked;
therefore it must be a very simple device, it may even be passive.  If it is
that easy to defeat imperial shields, it will not take the Feds long to put
them into thier photon torpedoes.   

>As for the DS2 shield, this was apparently of an extraordinary powerful
>variety, requiring planet (moon) based machinery. The DS2 might eventually
>have gotten an equivalent shielding power, if it had been completed.
>
>And to be ahead of some people, who are bound to ask: why didn't the DS1 have
>these powerful shields? Well, there are a number of possibilities.
>
>1. They didn't have these new shields then, they were only invented when the
>DS2 was built.

We saw one on Hoth, it must be a cooling problem, waste heat rejection is
a severe problem for spacecraft, the shape of the Death Star, minimum surface
area for its volume, makes it even worse.  A planetary atmosphere carries
the heat away by convection, and then the entire planet's surface is available
as a black body radiator.  The Death Star is a HUGE spacecraft, but it is an
extremely tiny planet.  
 


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From: cole@concert.net (Derrick C. Cole)
Subject: Re: M-tv vs. star wars
Organization: MCNC Data Operations
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:28:13 GMT

In article <22JUL199212243150@jane.uh.edu> elee9tv@jane.uh.edu (BOING) writes:
>
>	when Return of the Jedi came out, i remember seeing a music video of
>  the band that played in Jabba's palace.It was an actual music video with
>blue elephant,singer  with the protruding lips,...
>
>
>	Does anyone remember seeing this or was there just too
>     much sulfite in my mash potatos?
>
>			Dan 

I seem to recall this.  The blue keyboard-playing elephant is named Max Rebo,
and the singer is named Sy Snootles (?!?!?!?!)

Derrick
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From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Subject: TIMELINE
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:13:09 GMT

After this discussion of how long ESB was, I came up with the timeline.
Note that the ESB would have to be pretty long to allow them to build
3/4 of a Death Star before the last movie, becuase unless Han was in
Carbonite for years, which I doubt his friends would put him through,
RotJ took place right after ESB. I also think a considerable time
between SW and ESB could have happened.

Please help me out, and flush this out more. 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Timeline for reference:
Ben's generation, then Anakin's, then Luke's
WWII               50-60s         college students today
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
OLD REPUBLIC

CLONE WARS (5-10 years)
*Anakin's prime, 30-40
*Ben is much higher in rank, ready to train a Jedi
*Han is pre-academy
*Stormtroopers are 'grown'

RISE OF EMPIRE
*Ben goes to Tatooine
*Death star begins to be built, and Empire beefs itself up with Star
 Destroyers and stuff
*Luke grows up, 5-10 years younger than Han
*Leia grows up on Alderaan
*Han gets into smuggling now after completing training, Jabba and
 smuggling flourish under Empire's strictness 
*Han wins Falcon from Lando
*All 'Han Solo and ...' adventures take place
 (not that they're canon, but if they were....)
*Rebel alliance forms as Empire takes *total* control & eventually
 disbands the senate.
*Leia learns of Death Star and smuggles plans out

BATTLE OF DEATH STAR
*Leia's blockade runner attacked at Tatooine
*Emperor doesn't consider Rebels enough of a threat to warrant much
 intervention, he's busy consolidating power & building up Imperial
 fleet. 
*Construction of Executor began sometime along with Death Star, not
 finished until ESB.
*Tarkin gets Vader's help to squash rebels.

(I see the regional governors as necessary evils --to the Emperor--
a step towards consolidating power -- Governors can consolidate it
over their smaller regions absolutely, and Emperor will consolidate
them.)

ESB
*New Death Star started while hunt for rebels goes on
*Vader is given command of fleet now that Emperor feels Luke & Ben's
 stirring of the Force, cos Vader is best to deal with it.
*Rebels pass through Ord Mantel -- either as a base or scouting it as
 a base or getting supplies/recruits
*Falcon limps along w/o lightspeed
*Luke trained

BATTLE OF ENDOR
* RotJ

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From: barker@dmpe.csiro.au ( David Barker)
Subject: Re: Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru
Organization: CSIRO. Div of Mineral and Process Engineering.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 03:32:26 GMT

Speaking of these two characters, does anyone know if they released
figures of them with the other SW figures?

Thanks in advance..

David Barker
<barker@dmpe.csiro.au>
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From: tabaer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Troy A Baer)
Subject: Re: JEDI Sountrack???
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:44:24 GMT

In article <l6r3dgINN5m5@aludra.usc.edu> joshuali@usc.edu (Joshua Ling) writes:
>I was at a Tower Records over the weekend and I saw a Jedi soundtrack 
>different from the Original Soundtrack.  The cover of this one had no 
>picture, only a cheesey RETURN OF THE JEDI logo in perspective. On the
>back I was looking at the tracks and besides having the same tracks as
>the original sountrack (except titled differently I THINK) there were
>2 tracks that I think may have been unavailable on the original soundtrack.
>This IS NOT the CD with Darth Vader's Death and Battle with the TIE Fighters.
>The 2 tracks in question are something like Battle in the Pit (Rancor
>fight) and some OTHER Ewok music cause it already had a version of
>parade of the Ewoks. 
>Does anyone know of this CD? I didn't want to buy it and it turn out
>to be simply retitled music.
>
>-joshuali@usc.edu

I had this for a while.  It's by Gephardt and the National Philharmonic,
or whatever they're called.  Anyway, it's NOT the soundtrack to ROTJ in
any way, shape, or form -- just some of the same songs, and by a much poorer
orchestra IMHO.  I sold it when I bought the real ROTJ soundtrack.

Anybody know if there's any possibility Polydor will release ALL of the
music to the trilogy in one humongous boxed set, like the 4 CD Led Zep. set?
It'd be really cool... ->*sigh*<-

	--Troy
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:28:31 EDT
From: BIG ED <EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Young Indiana Jones

     Does anyone know when YIJ is to return to ABC? I heard that it has been
renewed for the upcoming season, but does anyone have any info on what date the
 new episodes are to be shown? I have asked this question before on
  rec.arts.tv, but no one there seems to know anything about it. Since I know
there are a lot of Lucas junkies, like myself, on this newsgroup, I hope to
find an answer....soon. Thanks in advance.

                                     -Ed

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            Architectural Engineering; Penn State University
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From: mohr@leland.Stanford.EDU (Paul William Mohr)
Subject: Re: stupid=Jedi
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 01:56:06 GMT

In article <l6ejjcINNr4@sal-sun102.usc.edu> joshuali@usc.edu (Joshua Ling) writes:

>Hated Luke`s hair!
>

No kidding.  I mean, aren't they supposed to have people watch that sort
of thing!  His hair looked better in ANH, and that was in 1977 for cryin'
out loud.  BTW, if you're looking for *really* bad hair, check out that
Rebel General (can't remember his name) who gives part of the briefing
before the big battle in ROTJ.  He's a blond guy with a beard.  Yikes!  
Who ever let that bozo on the set!?

Another stupid thing:  I just *hate* how Luke, and especially Han and Lando
get to be these outrageously high-ranking officers in the rebellion.
"General Solo...General Calrissian"  Give me a break.  Yeah, sure they did
a lot for the cause, but come on.  Oh and as long as I'm on the subject, the
whole scene where Han "assembles" his command team just makes me cringe.

After slamming ROTJ a few times, I should say that although I thought it was 
definitely the weakest of the three, I did like it.





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|  the dread of what comes after death...the undiscovered country, from   |
|  whom no traveler returns  puzzles the will, and makes us rather bear   |
|  those ills we have than fly to others that we know not of.     -W.S.   |
From: joshuali@sal-sun79.usc.edu (Joshua Ling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Another Han Solo Blooper?
Date: 27 Jul 1992 15:09:36 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: sal-sun79.usc.edu

In article <1992Jul27.214009.23887@uwm.edu> markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark William Hopkins) writes:

>
>"I want that ship, Admiral.  Asteroids do not concern me.  How long before you
> have Skywalker and the others aboard the Millenium Falcon?"

Please tell me that YOU said that and not Vader. 

"Asteroids do not concern me Admiral, I want that ship NOT excuses."

-joshuali@usc.edu
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From: joshuali@aludra.usc.edu (Joshua Ling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Lightsabers and songs.
Date: 24 Jul 1992 16:39:58 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <24JUL92154627@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu> dkemper@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu writes:
>As far as that goes, someone on this net said that there is a distinct 
>differnce in the orchestral arrangement playing in the background during 
>the lightsaber duel in Jedi than what appears on the soundtrack.

The music in the backround during the lightsaber duel is not on the sountrack
at all.  That music is an awsome arrangment I wish someone would release
that bit of music on CD.

-joshuali@usc.edu

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From: cuscd@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Charles Dey)
Subject: Re: M-tv vs. star wars
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 03:04:54 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.192813.19059@rock.concert.net> cole@concert.net (Derrick C. Cole) writes:
>In article <22JUL199212243150@jane.uh.edu> elee9tv@jane.uh.edu (BOING) writes:
>>
>>	when Return of the Jedi came out, i remember seeing a music video of
>>  the band that played in Jabba's palace.It was an actual music video with
>>blue elephant,singer  with the protruding lips,...
>>
>>
>>	Does anyone remember seeing this or was there just too
>>     much sulfite in my mash potatos?
>>
>>			Dan 
>
>I seem to recall this.  The blue keyboard-playing elephant is named Max Rebo,
>and the singer is named Sy Snootles (?!?!?!?!)
>
>Derrick
>-- 
>"Retrieving file systems sizes from install media...expr: syntax error
>expr: syntax error"
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   I can verify this, I videoed it way back when, unfortunatly the video
is back home (some 1200 miles +). If I had it here, I'd gif it (if
anyone doubted me =) )

But, the good news is you're not loosing your mind.  Though I may still
be, I still remember seeing the grate scene in Jedi... oh well.

...Crim'


".. then I'll meet you in hell !!"  .. Han Solo, The Empire Strikes Back
From: pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru
Date: 27 Jul 92 04:34:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Jul26.213441.11
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

In <1992Jul25.162300.230@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> z_cartheybr@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:

>
>I was just reading ANH again and began to thing back to the movie.  Does Aunt
>Beru actually know where Luke came from?  I mean in the movie she says some-
>thing to Uncle Owen to the extent of, "Luke can't stay here forever you know.
>Most of his have gone."  Then Owen says, "I'll make it up to him next year.  I 
>promise."  Then she replies with a half-smile.  "He's just not a farmer, Owen. 
>He has too much of his father in him." Then Owen replies quietly, "I know, 
>that's just what I'm afraid of." 
>
>Correct me if I'm off the mark, but Owen seems to be real concerned for Luke 
>by making up all these excuses to keep him on Tatooine and away from his ultima
>te destiny, while Beru sides with Luke thinking it's just a dream he wnats to
>fulfill, to be a pilot like his father.  Can anyone clarify this for me (even 
>if it is a FAQ).
>
>--Blitz                                  "I'm out of it for a while and
>                                          everybody gets delusions of 
>                                          grandeur."
>                                                     --Han Solo



Hmmmm. I never looked at it like that, but after seeing/reading all three
films/books, that really does make sense. I suppose that Ben could have
told Owen what had become of Luke's father, to the point of becoming Darth
Vader, or maybe just working for the Emperor....

Dave
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From: darkstar@pecan.cns.udel.edu (The Janitor Of Anarchy)
Subject: Re: Explosions - Just A thought
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Summary: Well...
Keywords: great with kids, nice smile, great butt, etc...
Organization: The Green Circle Of Vengence
Distribution: galaxy
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:07:56 GMT

In article <92203.125140PMETCALF@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> <PMETCALF@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
>If there is no oxygen in space, how come there are massive explosions
>when something is blown up? I'm going on the assumpsion that you need
>oxygen to support combustion.
>Anybody else have any suggestions? Just my 2 cents worth.
>
>Peter

Well, I think that they call it SPECIAL EFFECTS.


	--Jerry




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darkstar@bach.udel.edu       |  the dildo that will hurt the least!!!"
From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: The Death Star Droid
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:07:53 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

Not C-3PO, but since I'm getting such good responses about 
Droids today...

What did the 'Death Star Droid' actually do besides walk around?

Was he protocol? Torture? Accounting? :) Maybe one of the games
has additional data...


Scott