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From: cco.caltech.edu!vidya (Vidyasankar Sundaresan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: On Indian Civilization being the oldest...
Date: 12 Nov 1992 20:03:17 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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Originator: vidya@kanga

In article <BxM2E4.EB7@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> mvishnu@bcr3.uwaterloo.ca  
(Meenan Vishnu) writes:
- 
- As for me, I am of the same opinion as the 'Charvakas', expressed in the 
- following (part of a) song: 
- 
- "...The Agnihotra, the three Vedas, the ascetic's three staves, and 
-    smearing oneself with ashes,
- Were made by Nature as the livelihood of those destitute of knowledge 
-    and manliness.
- 
- ...
- 
- Hence it is only as a means of livelihood that bramins have
-    established here
- All these ceremonies for the dead--there is no fruit anywhere.
- The three authors of the Vedas were baffoons, knaves and demons.
- All the well-known formulas of the pandits, jarphari, turphari &c
- And all the obscene rites for the queen commanded in the Aswamedha
- These were invented by baffoons, and so all the various kinds of
- presents to the priests,
- While eating of flesh was similarly commanded by night-prowling demons"
- 
- 
- (Taken from "A source book on Indian philosophy" edited by Sarvappillai
-  Radhakrishnan and Charles A. Moore", 1957, page 233-234)
- 
- Meenan Vishnu
- 




When was the last time an Ashvamedha was performed in India? How many  
Brahmins benefited from it? How did the obscene rite performed by a queen  
(who presumably was living off the fat of the land and was rich - might  
have been one of those 'let them eat cake' types) affect the poor man on  
the street?



S.Vidyasankar
From: garyd@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Gary Deol)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: re:Khalistan
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 22:57:01 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

A reply to a message written by: kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar)
 
>talk anything sitting in USA. Go to India and talk about it. You 
>might ask me then what the hell I am doing for India sitting in 
>Australia.  Well, even though I am not doing anything for India, 
>atleast I am keeping my mouth shut and do not propagate against 
>India. Be proud to be an
 
  Since India is killing by brother's and sister's then you must 
understand why I must be vocal and action oriented when dealing with 
any topic related with India and Sikhs!  On the other hand thoa I 
will also be critical of the Sikh militants if they due something 
unethical such as kill an innocent person, something your not
prepared to do for your Indian regime?

Gary Deol              garyd@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayana)
Subject: Re: About contribution of Dravidian to Indian culture
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:13:44 GMT

In article <BxM031.Jp2@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (K.Srinivasan) writes:
>Unfortunately, if the word Tamil bother's you, read the whole text,
>after globally replacing it with the word 'pre-historic Telugu'.
>It might sound more acceptable. Or get your Tamil allergy cured.


Wow! I never knew that Tamil can cause allergies. Is there a 
vaccination for that! Or shall we say, acquire a bit of Tamil
patriotism, will it go away? Or should I become another dravidian
racist to cure my Tamil allergy? Hmm! I never knew that Tamil is
decease bearing. Keep up your patriotism!
...kt
>
>K. Srinivasan
From: S.Dharmaraj@newcastle.ac.uk (D. Subramani)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Brahmins
Date: 7 Nov 92 09:44:24 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

rairan@ecf.toronto.edu (RAI Ranjan) writes:


>  Does anyone know what percentage of Hindu people are Brahmin?
>-- 
>Ranjan Rai                             <rairan@ecf.toronto.edu> 
>Engineering Science 9T3                <rairan@eecg.toronto.edu>
>University of Toronto                      



 Sorry for being smutty, but me thinks its:

		By birth  : Anybodys guess.
		By action : Definitely ZERO.



-raj.subramani@newcastle.ac.uk
From: sunder@grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: South asians and conservatism
Date: 9 Nov 1992 17:21:04 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu

In article <1dk6rvINN4pu@function.mps.ohio-state.edu>, vidynath@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Vidhyarath K Rao) writes:
|> 
|> 1996 will see a struggle for the sould of the republican party. Till that
|> gets played out, we shouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole. After that
|> we will see what republican party really stands for.

You won't have to wait until 1996. Just wait and see who wins the Chairmanship
of the GOP. If someone like Pete DuPont or Vin Weber, or a moderate like Lynn 
Martin or Ed Madigan (both from UIUC, I might add with pride) bags that 
slot, there will be less of a focus on religious/moral issues and more of a 
focus on peace and prosperity issues. If someone like Bill Bennett wins it, 
there is some cause for concern, but not too much, since he is more of an
intellectual/philosopher than a politician and can be brought around. If
a Pat Buchanan clone wins it, run for your lives (maybe to the Libertarians).


|> Vidhyanath Rao

-- 
Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu

If my employer shares these views, I'd be most surprised.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: aksood@zeno04.math.UWaterloo.ca (Anoop Sood)
Subject: Re: KHALISTAN!
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 23:25:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.175315.1@opie.bgsu.edu>, mkatyal@opie.bgsu.edu writes:
> In article <Bx07B1.n4A@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>, hsingh@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Harpreet Singh) writes:
> > What's wrong in asking for KHALISTAN?
> > 
> > Harpreet Singh
> >Well if you want Khalistan you can have it in Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc.
> but, definitely not in India! 
> I'm a Punjabi (mona) and may I ask what right do you have to throw me out
> of my beloved Punjab?
> Do you want us Hindus to again kick your ugly butts as in 1984? 

When are people going to stop acting like kids and start growing up.  I think it's high time that we stopped this stupid nonsense of you kicking his butt and he kick your butt.  LEARN TO LIVE IN PEACE!!!!  I'm a Hindu and a Sikh and feel really ashamed to see that these two cultures have come to.  I think we should go back to Mahatama Gandhi's preaching and learn to live in peace without any voilence.  WHAT DO YOU THINK HARPREET SINGH and MR. KICK YOUR UGLY ASS.


Anoop Sood
From: ghayalm@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: KHALISTAN!!!
Date: 6 Nov 92 04:53:08 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati

>By naming Punjab as Khalistan only the Sikhs will be able to identify with
>that it.   The infrastructure will stay as it is.  No, they will not 
>compensate,, but if the Indian govt is need of money we'll pay for it.  
>India would not have to trade with us, there are other countries beside
>India to trade with.  There are Sikhs who want Khalistan in India.  But are
>too scared ,naturally, since u never when the govt might just order another
>riots against the Sikhs.  The grief, unfortunately, will continue until
>the Indian govt makes the first move.  I would rather live in Khalistan
>than in Canada.  No disregard to Canada, but it will have to my second
>choice.  But Home is still home.  

Nobody believes you.  If your Khalisthan is so important to you,
why are you not in Punjab fighting for it.  Mahatma Gandhi, Nehru
and all other great Indian freedom fighters did not say that, India
is important to us, and if we get freedom we will return there.

I am really sorry that Sikhs were killed in 1984, the same thing
happened to Mahrathi brahmins when Mahtma Gandhi was killed and
Tamils who were suspected to be from Sri Lanka were killed, when
Rajiv Gandhi was killed.  I personnaly wish that all those who were involved
should be hanged.

Manoj
>
>Harpreet Singh.
>
>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sgs@ucs.usl.edu (Sudhindranath SG)
Subject: Re: KHALISTAN
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:57:28 GMT


Anoop Sood writes :
>
>In article <Bx7FyI.9un@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>, hsingh@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Harpreet Singh) writes: 
>   
>> India would not have to trade with us, there are other countries beside
>> India to trade with.  There are Sikhs who want Khalistan in India.  But are
>> too scared ,naturally, since u never when the govt might just order another
>> riots against the Sikhs. 
>
>It was not the Government that ordered the riots, that just seems to be your 
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>

It is well-known that the people who ordered the riots were
holding very important positions in the Government. If the Government
did not take any action against those people, it follows that the
Government should take the blame for the riots.

>
>paranoia.  If that was the case, why isn't there riots against the Kashmiri's 
>                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I fail to understand your reasoning. In what way does the occurrence/
non-occurrence of riots against the Kashmiris prove the point
that the Government was involved/not involved in the anti-Sikh riots ?

>or were the Sikhs just the chosen ones????  The only Sikhs who want Khalistan 
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>

The Sikhs were targetted for killing. Many innocent Sikhs were killed
in the riots. The culprits not only  escaped scot-free but continued
to enjoy positions of power.

>are the one's sitting in Western countries, far away from all that terrorism.
>

The tone of your remark is not very charitable, to say the least.
It is the same kind of attitude that the Indian Government has taken
resulting in the alienation of the Sikhs.

>> Harpreet Singh.
>> 
>
>Anoop Sood

Regards,

--Sudhi.

-- 
*********************************************************************
Sira Gopinath Sudhindranath. 
email : sudhi@usl.edu, sgs@ucs.usl.edu
*********************************************************************
From: vallath@sail.LABS.TEK.COM (Vallath Nandakumar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Electronics or Computer Hardware conferences in India?
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:42:31 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.


 
Are there important conferences in electronics held in India?
Does the DOElectronics of the Indian Govt. sponsor any?  I
think there was an IEEE VLSI conference this year in Bangalore.

Do you know of any important or at least good international
conferences on electronic devices, circuits, or systems in India
in 1993?
 
From vallath@vishnu.labs.tek.com
 
Vallath Nandakumar
-- 
Vallath Nandakumar
Superconductive Systems Group
Solid State Research Lab
503-627-6399, MS 50-324
From: sanu@cs.utexas.edu (Sankrant Sanu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Delhi Public School, Rkpuram.
Date: 11 Nov 1992 21:59:23 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: earth.cs.utexas.edu
Keywords: alumni DPS

This posting is for a friend.

An Alumni Association for DPS Rkpuram
has been formed. Contact Alok Agrawal
for details. His address is:

	46, Jean Drive
	Englewood Cliffs
	NJ 07632.

	Phone: 212-391-4490
		(between 6-7 p.m. EST)

Note again that this posting is for a 
friend. PLEASE CONTACT HIM DIRECTLY, as
I have no further information.

sanu.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: krishnan@ra.csc.ti.com (Srinivasan Krishnan)
Subject: Availability of AUTOCAD software in India
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:00:48 GMT



I would like to have some information regarding the availability of
AUTOCAD software in India.  Does Autodesk (maker of Autocad) have
a unit in India that sells the product or is there an authorised
seller of Autocad in India?  Any information regarding the price,
support, and training will be very much appreciated.

Please send mail to krishnan@add.itg.ti.com

Krishnan

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.visa.us
From: kale@geb.cs.odu.edu (Vijay S. Kale)
Subject: Multiple H1 from Toronto
Organization: Old Dominion University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:55:26 GMT

Hi Folks,

 Could any one out there give me info on multiple H1 from Toronto.


 I have to go to Bombay on 10th of Dec and the reservation is confirmed.


 Will appreciate very much.

 
 Also if Toronto is not a good idea what is the next nearest place in the north
 of east coast.


 Thanks.

..Vijay
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: alok@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (alok.vijayvargia)
Subject: You are an Indian (Re: "Southie or Northie?"
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:34:41 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian

In article <Nov08.221323.49533@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, kannan@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Kannan Subramanian) writes:
> 
> Am I a Southie or a Northie? The roots of this problem run deep. The long and 
> short of it is that while confusion is still rife on the matter of just who I 
> am, I continue to hate the word "Madrasi" with a passion. 

You are an Indian. Why do you have to think in terms of northie or southie ?
Save yourself some trouble and lots of confusion. Think yourself as an Indian. 
If anyone asks, say you are an Indian. No one can say that you are not an
Indian ...

Alok
From: rroy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Raja R Roy)
Subject: Re: None
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:07:26 GMT


In article <1322@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala) writ
es:
>I just saw a note in soc.penpals group, and felt like
>posting it on SCI.
>
>--NS
>***********************************************************************
>
>Newsgroups: soc.penpals
>Subject: Re: April 20th birthday anyone?
>Date: 4 Nov 92 16:59:00 GMT
>
>         Hey just b'cause hitler was born on the same day don't mean
>         you need to
>                   be sad. Actually he was one of the best leaders the
>                   world has had, the
>                                       Daniel.
>
>************************************************************************

                 OH yes. Earth is full of idiots. 

>
>
From: sthiruna@HP-UX (Srinivas Thirunagari)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: RE:RESULT correction: rec.arts.poems.urdu passes
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:24:21 GMT

I was surprised as I was going through this article to find
that most of the people who gave negative vote for urdu
are Non-Urdu(American) speakers. In fact they must have not had a 
hair breadth of knowledge about urdu, forget about its rich
poetry. 

I wish I could understand the reason for that ?

Srinivas.


Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:36320 soc.culture.usa:8363
From: sunder@grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Please revise your lexicon, ladies and gentlemen!
Date: 8 Nov 1992 21:16:07 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu

In article <1992Nov6.143944.7238@news2.cis.umn.edu>, prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar) writes:
|> >Bush won 17 states and got >170 electoral votes.  But so what?  The
|> >electoral vote is skewed because of the winner-take-all format.  The
|> >popular vote accurately reflects the sentiments of the people.
|> >
|> >>Clinton would have (yes, a supposition) got the majority
|> >>in the popular vote if it hadn't been for screwball Perot.
|> >Such suppositions are logical 
|> If the popular vote is the accurate indicator, then even Reagain`
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> didn't win by a landslide. In US, the electoral college vote 

Reagan got 50% of the vote, as opposed to Carter, who got somewhere between
41 & 43% in a three-way race. Of course, John Anderson didn't have
Perot's deep pockets or his populism. Besides, Reagan won 44 states 
in 1980, as opposed to Clinton, who won "only" 32. 

|> determines the degree of landslide. To use one or the other 
|> selectively a per one's political affiliation is specious.

I think that whether we agree that Clinton won by a landslide
or a squeaker (or not at all!!!), it is clear that George Bush 
got the pink slip, and the country wants "change." Change they
now have. Let's see whether they can get to like it and get over
the "apprehension" that a majority of the voters had about
a Clinton administration (if the exit polls are to be believed).



-- 
Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu

If my employer shares these views, I'd be most surprised.
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Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:36012 soc.culture.indian.telugu:865 soc.culture.tamil:3305
From: prem@prem.lbl.gov (R. Shirdi Prem)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu,soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: Cuban Immigrants and Indian Immigrants
Date: 4 Nov 1992 21:48:55 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: prem@prem.lbl.gov (R. Shirdi Prem)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.140.191

In article <1992Nov3.232401.10525@a.cs.okstate.edu> mallidi@a.cs.okstate.edu (MALLIDI SATYANARAY) writes:
>
>        Why didn't the Indian community, much larger in size, fail to influence
>    the Washington's policy on India?

    Well, they were trying to influence Washington's policy.....

	The Indian doctors were trying to get Bush in the White House.
	The Indian middle class was trying to get Clinton in the White House.
	The Indian terrorists were trying to get Bush re-elected.
	The Indian embassy staff were trying to get their cousins a job here.
	The New-Indian ambassador was trying to get used to driving on the 
					wrong side.
	The Indian travellers were trying to get VCRs into India.
	The Indian students were trying to qualify for in-state tuition,
	The Indian taxi-drivers were trying to get a passenger at JFK.
	The Indian Northies were trying to arrange a Gurdas Mann program.
	The Indian Southies were trying to upstage the Northies with a 
					Bharathiyar  programme.
	The SCIndians were busy adding more and more entries to their 
					kill files.
	The New-SCIndians were posting test messages.

    So, as you can see, Washington may or may not be influenced, but we
    were sure trying our best.

	Prem!

>     Reddy Mallidi.
>     All the openions expressed here are mine.

	No way. Some of them are _MINE_.
From: banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Respect for female readers (was Re: Indian T..)
Date: 13 Nov 1992 12:15:52 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phad.hsc.usc.edu

In article <1992Nov13.193606.1264@asl.dl.nec.com> murthy@aslws01.asl.dl.nec.com (Vasudev Murthy) writes:

>[deleted]
>
>Please move these expressions of your differences to
>e-mail or alt.flame

I do not see why you should place yourself in the position of sole arbitrator
of what should not should not be on SCI. If postings on SCI from a certain
dimwitted, mentally incapacitated individual generates flames, then by
all means this newsgroup should serve as a forum until such a flame war  
comes to it's conclusion. I find your efforts to move such flames to other less
heavily subscribed newsgroups naive and counter productive.

Do not attempt to enact the role of "Net police" on SCI. Trust me, you dont
have what it takes.

Regards,

Samit



>
>Thank you.
>
>-- 
>Vasudev Murthy             Any opinions expressed are strictly  
>murthy@asl.dl.nec.com      my own  and have nothing to do with
>(214) 518-5031             Advanced Switching Lab, NEC America, Inc.
>1525 Walnut Hill Lane Irving TX 75038


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kavuri@lips1.ecn.purdue.edu (Surya N Kavuri )
Subject: Re: Chinese Girls / or Indian Culture Among Youth
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:13:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.210213.4311@cbnews.cb.att.com>, aphilip@cbnews.cb.att.com (ashwin.k.philip) writes:
> > 
> >    white + black ---> almost white, is still called black.
> >    Same goes for orientals or even desis.
> >    It must certainly make these people as if they have 
> >    been contaminated by something non-white. Thus, 1% contamination
> >    is still contamination.
> 
> Why almost white? ho about almost black? white+black=mellato (sp?)
> You seem to have this overwhelming desire (or want to make it seem as
> if someone else has) to be white... that is not what I am talking about.

      Well, you have this uncanny ability to not answer what has been
      asked and say a lot of other things.  I will ask again:
      "Why is a person who is blond and has a fair skin, but is of a
       mixed origin b+w,called black ?"

> >    Why is that you call yourself an Indian American,
> >    where as I do not often here the Italians referred to as
> >    Italian Americans. So clearly you are more than 
> >    "that Indian guy".  
> > 
> Good question, 2 ways to answer (both quite trivial)
> 1) when I was younger I used to say my little brother was an American Indian
> because he was born here and I was an Indian American because I was born there.
> 2) American Indian is already the common name for the native Indians.
> 
   All I see is that you again did not answer the question. Again,
  specifically:
  "Blacks have been here in this country for many generations. But they 
   are still afro-americans.  Why are  not the Europeans (in particular
   British) of many generations called Euro-americans ?" 

> Americans without a descriptor generally are mixtures of the various     
> descriptors and therefore are the essence of America (mixing pot).  The
> only argument here though, are English American (not british... they are
> called British Americans), who came here originally.  Then again, after
> x generations, the descriptor probably dissapears anyway as your link
> with your original country lessens and the link to America strengthens
> (family links that is).
> 
> Ashwin K. Philip___________________________Email:  philip@mink.mt.att.com

    This argument does not hold much water.  As long as Indians do not
    racially mix and keep their features, they will be Indian-americans
    even after 10 generations. 

    

Surya Kavuri
FIAT LUX
From: sdoki@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Suresh Doki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: ----POSSIBLE WITH 3.35 ??------
Date: 7 Nov 1992 01:24:00 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

 mmaksud@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:

>HELLO THERE 
>A FRIEND OF MINE IN  DAYTON WOULD LIKE TO GO FOR PHD IN MECHANICAL ENGINEERING
>IN SOME OTHER SCHOOL. DO YOU THINK HE COULD GET ADMISSION HAVING A GPA =3.35.
>IF YOU CAN RECOMMEND SOME REPUTABLY GOOD SCHOOL YET NOT THAT BAD, HE WOULD BE
>REAL GRATEFUL.

well i think daytona beach is a good swimming resort. he should think
of swimming rather than going for a phd.

btw 3.35 sucks.


suresh

ps: mine is 4.0