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From: tedwards@src.umd.edu (Thomas Grant Edwards)
Subject: TechnoPagan Update
Organization: Systems Research Center, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 09:30:06 GMT

The biggest question on the minds of most TechnoPagans is "what
kind of rituals connect you to the spirit of nature and technology?"

Well, this summer I had 2 decidely TechnoPagan experiences.  The first
was amateur radio field day, when hams all over the country go to
remote sites, and set up portable radios and there is a contest to
see how many other field day stations you can contact.  

It was really incredible to be out under the star-filled sky, the
full moon rising, a crackling campfire going to keep us warm,
whilst beaming our voices off Russian amateur radio satellites
in low earth obrit, bouncing them off the ionosphere out to
California, etc.  A few of my ham friends have attached 144 MHz
antennas to their bikes, so they can use radios whilst out on
a trail.

The second was a Rave I went to.  When I first heard about raves,
I thought "yuck, techno dance music!"  But the stuff boppy teens
were dancing to years ago called techno is not modern technorave.
Technorave is much faster, much more artistic, with great use of
sampled sounds.  

But it was the Rave itself that really captured my soul!  Hundreds
of people dancing.  But it just wasn't any dancing, it was
_ritual_ dancing, continuous motion to the 150 BPM beat.
There was a techo spirit there, guided by the computerized music
and blasting intellibeams serving as luminous signposts pointing
the way to technonirvana.  

No alcohol, no fights, just smartdrinks, maybe an occasional nitrous
balloon or person on X.  Also, I don't think I've ever seen such
a racially mixed dance floor.  The technogroove pulls in all races 
to form the technoharmonic culture.  This is the world where a 13 year
old in Germany can mix a number one hit record in his basement with
a Mac.  The power of the computer enables anyone to fully unleash
their musical talent for consumption by the masses.  

I tried to make it to an outdoor Rave, but it got busted just as I
arrived :(   

Anyway, we are getting together a small rave group to do microraves
at various places on campus, and perhaps interest a few student
groups to put on a huge Rave.  I have a feeling we're not going to
work to put together a technopagan coven just yet, probably just
let the Rave ritual be our public spiritual experience for right
now.  We also intend to work along with the student Wiccan group
here, to get a further grasp on this emerging spiritual feeling.

Again, if anyone is interested in the TechnoPagan movement,
write me email.  Maybe we could put together a mailing list.

Blessed be virtually!

-CyberTom
From: kaplanj@EMUNIX.EMICH.EDU (Jeffrey Kaplan)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Friends in North Carolina?
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:46:44 GMT

A friend of mine just went off to UNC at Greensboro as a grad student
and she has no friends there.  If you know of any pagan or lesbian
groups in that area, please let me know so I can put her in touch with
them.

Thanks for your help.

Jeff Kaplan
Jeff.Kaplan@um.cc.umich.edu
kaplanj@emunix.emich.edu
From: gerda@brewich.hou.tx.us (Gerda Thunarsson)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: insruance in florida
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 09:03:17 CDT
Organization: The Brewer's Witch BBS, +1 713 272 7350, Brewich.Hou.TX.US

i'm sure a lot of families had their things insured, but i'm sure even 
more of them are like me and my husband, we can't afford to feed 
ourselves much less insure our valuables (computer, 51" tv, stereo etc..)
 
Es tut mir leid, if this is off topic.
 
Gerda Thunarsson

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From: donal@brewich.hou.tx.us (Donal)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: How many ______ does it take to change a light bulb?
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 12:47:44 CDT
Organization: The Brewer's Witch BBS, +1 713 272 7350, Brewich.Hou.TX.US

How many Gardnerians does it take to change a light bulb?
   I can't tell you. It is a deep dark secret!
   
How many Family Traditionalists does it take to change a light bulb?
   None. If oil lamps were good enough for Grandma they are good enough for us!
   
got any more? This is the thread for 'em!
:) Maybe this should be crossposted to to rec.humor...


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From: pharvey@quack.sac.ca.us (Paul Harvey)
Subject: Re: Favorite Bible Verses
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
	<ZD8uqB5w165w@brewich.hou.tx.us>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 05:17:08 GMT

In article <ZD8uqB5w165w@brewich.hou.tx.us> 
donal@brewich.hou.tx.us (Donal) writes:
>I think the fact that he Romanized his name, changing it from Saul (a jewish
>name) to Paul (a roman one) is pretty telling, don't you?

Well, yeah, and that's just the start. Judaism had moved to Babylon
after the fall of Israel, it was there that they still used and kept
alive Hebrew. The people of the land that was Israel were more Greek
than Jewish. They spoke Aramaic and couldn't read Hebrew, that is why
the Septuagint, the first translation of the Hebrew scriptures into
Greek was commissioned in Alexandria and this is what the
proto-Christians used as their reference in the writings of the New
Testament in Greek. So the idea of the proto-Christians being Jewish is
kind of like citizens of the US calling themselves Americans. These
proto-Christians are usually called Hellenistic Jews, kind of like
European-Americans.

>BTW, has anyone else heard any speculation that Paul was a Eunuch, as Barbara
>Walker asserts in _The Woman's Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets_? Check it
>out! She has some very convincing arguments. I have gone back and re-read the
>bible verses she highlights, and I now see it in a whole different light.

I don't recall if this was true of Paul or not, but it was quite the fad
of early Christianity, the idea being to remove the desire for the
pleasure of sex, but later Christian scholars pretty much decided that
this was cheating, better to be a monk or nun who resisted temptation of
the flesh than to have no choice or drive. Pretty nutso if you ask me, I
say joyful participation in the sorrows of the world and In Vino
Veritas. But then I'm only all to human.
From: gerda@brewich.hou.tx.us (Gerda Thunarsson)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: ancestors stories
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 14:35:22 CDT
Organization: The Brewer's Witch BBS, +1 713 272 7350, Brewich.Hou.TX.US

Tammy,
 
You're so right about grandparents stories, and even other elders if 
possible.  i've let 3 of 4 grandparents die with stories untold.  and the 
remaining grandmother doesn't care, "what's the use of telling those old 
stories?" is her attitude.
 
<sigh>
 
Gerda Thunarsson

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Newsgroups: alt.destroy.the.earth
From: jamesh@netcom.com (James Hightower)
Subject: Re: Steel
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 08:03:46 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

sg4e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stephen Joseph Gordon) writes:

>I always thought that it be nice if we changed the earth into one
>big globe of steel and glass.
>-just a thought.
>				-Angry Steve

Sounds like a plan. Glass and steel and concrete and blacktop and faux marble
and cast iron and rivits. Big, rusty, dark gray rivits. I'll take two!
	- James, Angry, but not quite as angry as Steve, who is most cross
		these days...

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Subject: Re: If sex were my middle name....
Supersedes: <92258.083426HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:10:22 EDT
From: <HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu>

>If sex were my middle name, wouldn't fish drown?
I hexed the state of Maine, piddle on the ground.
From: klein@frith.egr.msu.edu (Jeffrey Klein)
Newsgroups: alt.destroy.the.earth
Subject: Re: black hole story?
Date: 9 Sep 92 01:39:35 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University College of Stunt Piloting

In article <1992Sep8.210316.18979@leland.Stanford.EDU> fangs@leland.Stanford.EDU (John Wesley Lewellen IV) writes:
>
>The book, appropriately enough, was "Earth," by David Brin.  FYI also,
>"Hole Man" was written by Larry Niven, not Clarke, and took place on Mars,
>when a researcher "lost" a black hole which was part of an alien 
>gravity-wave communications device.  But yes, it IS an interesting bit of
>fiction.
>
>Earth, by Brin, is one of the better works by one of the best authors
>I've come across in recent years.

Are you kidding??!?!

Why, he didn't even have the guts to DESTROY THE EARTH! :)
-- 
Jeff Klein             | "Happily, Ral doffs his outer clothing for a
Browsing Boy of the LNH|  refreshing dip in one of the dangerous 
klein@kira.egr.msu.edu |  chemical vats." - Ty Templeton
From: 88603345s@csghsg5a.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.destroy.the.earth
Subject: test
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:29:58 GMT
Organization: University of St.Gallen, Switzerland

Test

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From: cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca (CHRISTIAN D. ARMOUR)
Subject: Steel isn't the answer
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: all
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 04:22:57 GMT

Steel can't work because their isn't enough of it to cover
the entire globe.  It would look nice too.  A better plan 
would involve drilling holes into the Earth's core to vent
the iron/nickel magma to the surface.  The result would be
a hollow sphere.  Think of what this would do to gravity
as we know it.  I'm no expert but it might even affect the
planet's orbit around the sun.  That would certainly do
the job.  

Maybe the holes could be drilled at one end only, thereby
inverting North and South, or North and East.

Huh? Huh?

christianarmourkidsoncs911461@ariel.yorku.ca

Newsgroups: alt.destroy.the.earth
From: fangs@leland.Stanford.EDU (John Wesley Lewellen IV)
Subject: Re: black hole story?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 21:03:16 GMT

In article <188trbINN9us@agate.berkeley.edu> lizi@ocf.berkeley.edu (Cosma R. Shalizi) writes:
>In article <l9j4bbINNda7@nunki.usc.edu> pechever@nunki.usc.edu (Paul Echeverri) writes:
>>In article <BtFBv0.DF0@well.sf.ca.us] dasher@well.sf.ca.us (D Anton Sherwood) writes:
>>]Seems to me I recently read a novel involving a black hole that was created
>>]and accidentally dropped into Earth (it's estimated that Earth will collapse
>>]within a few years).  Anybody know what it was?
>>]-- 
>>]D Anton Sherwood *\\* dasher@well.sf.ca.us *\\* +1 415 664 2229
>>]Libertarian candidate for California Assembly, 12th district
>
>>Probably "Hole Man" by Arthur C. Clarke.  Amusing little piece of fiction.
>>			Glad to be of help.
>	Does NO ONE read classical literature any more? Clarke is one of
>the gods, true, but he did NOT write "Hole Man"; Larry Niven did. Sheesh.
>The dark age is coming, folks...
>	Cosma Rohilla Shalizi
>	lizi@ocf.berkeley.edu to friends
>	larval physicist
>	Vice-President, Campus Crusade for Cthulhu, for which I DO speak
>d
>-- 
>"Some savages are persuaded by the 'natural light' that it is their duty to
> eat people, and even Voltaire's savages, who are led by the voice of reason
> to hold that one should only eat Jesuits, are not wholly satisfactory."
>-Bertrand Russell on Rousseau in _A History of Western Philosophy_, p. 694

The book, appropriately enough, was "Earth," by David Brin.  FYI also,
"Hole Man" was written by Larry Niven, not Clarke, and took place on Mars,
when a researcher "lost" a black hole which was part of an alien 
gravity-wave communications device.  But yes, it IS an interesting bit of
fiction.

Earth, by Brin, is one of the better works by one of the best authors
I've come across in recent years.

- JWL IV
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Subject: Re: The end of the world is near!
From: Jsr@Xyzzy.equinox.gen.nz (J S Russell)
Date: 4 Sep 92 01:22:32 +1200
Organization: AMS Ltd
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

rlee@bgsu.edu (Bob Lee) writes:
: 
: On that date the nine planets will line up. The planets will all pull on
: one another and this gravitational upheaval will cause the earth to be
: pulled on its side. North America will become the new Antarctica. Then, all
: the snow and ice that has been building up on Antarctica will cause the
: land mass to sink into the earth, the magma in the core will be displaced
: and will spew out between the plates in the form of massive volcanos and
: earthquakes.
: Then, the prevailing winds will rush to seek equalibrium and basically cause the
: world to be engulfed into one large hurricane with 300 mph winds.


Of course, this only works because Earth is flat.


JSR
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From: pechever@aludra.usc.edu (Paul Echeverri)
Newsgroups: alt.destroy.the.earth
Subject: Re: black hole story?
Date: 4 Sep 1992 22:14:24 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <188trbINN9us@agate.berkeley.edu] lizi@ocf.berkeley.edu (Cosma R. Shalizi) writes:
]In article <l9j4bbINNda7@nunki.usc.edu] pechever@nunki.usc.edu (Paul Echeverri) writes:
]]Probably "Hole Man" by Arthur C. Clarke.  Amusing little piece of fiction.
]]			Glad to be of help.
]	Does NO ONE read classical literature any more? Clarke is one of
]the gods, true, but he did NOT write "Hole Man"; Larry Niven did. Sheesh.
]The dark age is coming, folks...
]	Cosma Rohilla Shalizi
]	lizi@ocf.berkeley.edu to friends
]	larval physicist
]	Vice-President, Campus Crusade for Cthulhu, for which I DO speak
Ack.  I smite myself. I verily hang my heads in shame, for I deserve to be
rent to bloody pieces by a substandard, underfed, filthy, scruffy shoggoth.
Niven it is....
		The Black Goat Of The Woods With A Thousand Young!
			Paul Echeverri


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From: butch@rtfm.mlb.fl.us (Butch F. Vinyl)
Subject: Re: Steel
Organization: 150lb skin sack of protoplasm and noxious wastes
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 03:40:43 GMT

 a lumpy ball of rusted scrap and about 60 billion cubic miles
shards of tasty crunchy broken glass sez i and about time too  
don't forget the smoldering outer layer of partially decomposed organic
matter for that special aroma

 getting there but too slow  what have -you- done to destroy the earth
lately
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From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Atharvan)
Subject: Re: If sex were my middle name....
Organization: The Net-Anarchists of SCI, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:10:16 GMT

In article <92258.083426HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu> <HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>If sex were my middle name, wouldn't fish drown?
>I hexed the state of Maine, piddle on the gound.
Ajax' head the fate of pain, riddle in the sound.

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From: f67700241@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
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Subject: Re: If sex were my middle name....
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:45:25 GMT
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Atharvan writes:
>HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>>A horny dude writes:
>>>If sex were my middle name, wouldn't fish drown?
>>I hexed the state of Maine, piddle on the gound.
>Ajax' head the fate of pain, riddle in the sound.
Mexican pets are great for pals and sex in the middle of the lawn. 
-- 
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f67700241@ccit.arizona.edu               Dan: "R-O-L-A-I-D-S-E."

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	-- Richard Ben Cramer, author of _What It Takes_
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 00:15:57 -0400 
From: Alan Edward Petrillo <ap2z+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: The Charter



Cool.   I was wondering how this got started.  Here's my latest
brainstorm: Conscious Planetary Entropy.   That is, through the
concerted effort of the entire human race, accelerate the process of
achieving what the Bible says the end of the world should be.  Exalt the
valleys, bring the mountains low, and all that jazz.   See if we can
diffuse all of the water on Earth into all of the soil into all of the
air.   Bring it all to an absolute uniform temperature that will remain
constant for all eternity....okay, I don't know what I'm talking about,
but I do think that some consideration should be given to the aesthetic
qualities of what's left of this damn marble.

Alan Petrillo       "Better dead than Green."
From: lizi@ocf.berkeley.edu (Cosma R. Shalizi)
Newsgroups: alt.destroy.the.earth
Subject: Re: black hole story?
Date: 5 Sep 1992 00:09:15 GMT
Organization: Vampire Research Group at Berkeley :)
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Summary: No! No! No!

In article <l9j4bbINNda7@nunki.usc.edu> pechever@nunki.usc.edu (Paul Echeverri) writes:
>In article <BtFBv0.DF0@well.sf.ca.us] dasher@well.sf.ca.us (D Anton Sherwood) writes:
>]Seems to me I recently read a novel involving a black hole that was created
>]and accidentally dropped into Earth (it's estimated that Earth will collapse
>]within a few years).  Anybody know what it was?
>]-- 
>]D Anton Sherwood *\\* dasher@well.sf.ca.us *\\* +1 415 664 2229
>]Libertarian candidate for California Assembly, 12th district

>Probably "Hole Man" by Arthur C. Clarke.  Amusing little piece of fiction.
>			Glad to be of help.
	Does NO ONE read classical literature any more? Clarke is one of
the gods, true, but he did NOT write "Hole Man"; Larry Niven did. Sheesh.
The dark age is coming, folks...
	Cosma Rohilla Shalizi
	lizi@ocf.berkeley.edu to friends
	larval physicist
	Vice-President, Campus Crusade for Cthulhu, for which I DO speak
d
-- 
"Some savages are persuaded by the 'natural light' that it is their duty to
 eat people, and even Voltaire's savages, who are led by the voice of reason
 to hold that one should only eat Jesuits, are not wholly satisfactory."
-Bertrand Russell on Rousseau in _A History of Western Philosophy_, p. 694
From: sg4e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stephen Joseph Gordon)
Newsgroups: alt.destroy.the.earth
Subject: Steel
Date: 10 Sep 92 01:25:33 GMT
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I always thought that it be nice if we changed the earth into one
big globe of steel and glass.

-just a thought.



				-Angry Steve
From: mouser@cs.umd.edu (David Eccleston)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Buffy was great - NOT.
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:25:47 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

n article <1992Sep6.191652.169@sfu.ca> forman@fraser.sfu.ca (Pamela Catherine F
orman) writes:
>Just got back from Buffy the Vampire Slayer.  My friend said it was
>great.  OK, but NOT great.  Had some good humor in it and I
>particularly liked Paul Rubens.  He makes a great vampire!  
>
>Can anyone figure out what audience this was for?  There were a ton of
>small kids there but very little laughing.    


   I liked it ok too... Lots of cool spinning jump kicks driving spikes into
undead teenagers.  Plus you just gotta love a movie with Pee Wee Herman looking
like his mugshot.

Mouser
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From: pholland@iastate.edu (Paul J Hollander)
Subject: Re: innocent blood
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 03:13:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.195610.27408@ctr.columbia.edu> lilorenzin@apollo.davidson.edu writes:
>In article <20190@plains.NoDak.edu>, bohlman@plains.NoDak.edu (Daemon) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep4.134257.11755@ctr.columbia.edu> lilorenzin@apollo.davidson.edu writes:
>>>nothing so much like a vampyre as a human being.
>>Yep.  Vampyres are like humans, with a severe amplification of the drive to 
>>hunt, to kill, and to feel.
>>
>>Have you ever noticed the one thing all true predators have in common?
>>
>>Their eyes face forward.
>
>'s an interesting observation.  depth perception being of greater necessity
>than range of vision, perhaps?  and for natural prey (read, rabbits/squirrels
>etc) the opposite, more range of vision to watch for predators.
>
>'course that's prob'ly a bunch of shit, but it sounds nice & technical...

Well, carnivorus mammals and raptors generally have binocular vision for depth
perception, but gorillas do too, and they are herbivores.  Fruit eating bats
have good binocular vision, and they eat fruit.  And look at a carnivorous 
lizard or a snake.  Eyes are on the sides of the head.  Same for killer 
whales.  Then there's the mole, which is carnivorous but has hardly any eyes
at all because it's a burrower.  The robins on my front lawn are carnivorus
(they eat worms), but they have eyes on the sides of the head.  Same for
my chickens, which are omnivores.  Carnivorus fish have eyes on the sides 
of the head, and you'd be hard pressed to find a truer preditor than a 
great white shark.

Paul Hollander    pholland@iastate.edu
Behold the tortoise: he makes no progress unless he sticks his neck out.

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