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From: kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy)
Subject: Re: The world according to propeller-boy - part 1
Organization: Who, me???
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 20:55:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.160855.10403@frog.CRDS.COM> jcc@frog.CRDS.COM (gallifrey) writes:
>In article <1992Aug9.004750.8654@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug3.140330.25847@frog.CRDS.COM> jcc@frog.CRDS.COM (gallifrey) writes:
>
>>> What you've said, so far:
>
>>>  "Suzie tricked me into being an asswipe by posting an ambiguous and 
>>>oh so tempting morsel.  I'm not malicious, I'm just too stupid to figure
>>>out the alternatives in a two-choice situation".
>>> "If she'll appoligize for triggering my idiocy, I'll appologize for being
>>>an idiot".
>
>>	A) There was no reason to be posting child abuse crap in t.a in the
>>	   first place
>
> Indeed.   Trying to enlighten Forgach (or you, for that matter) -is-
>beyond reason....but what the hell, the net is full of optimists.
>
>  Here's what you've added:
>
>  "I have a method I use when deciding how to follow up a post.  It's
> a faulty, stupid method that caused me to make a base accusation against
> an innocent victim, but it's the method I use.

Wrong. It's a highly accurate, invaluable method which works 99.999999% of
cases, but unfortunately not in this one. Linguists give it a name -- 
"register". I would venture to say that EVERYONE uses a similar method,
but they would probably use different words to describe it.

>  I see nothing wrong with this, but lots of people seem to be mad at me...
> (I think they're faking it, giant conspiracy against me don't you know),

Shared preoccupation, Chagnon, not a "conspiracy". Surely even you aren't
dishonest enough to deny that I get more than my share of attention from
those folks, are you? Even when I post innocuous stuff, I typically get
floods of insults, lies, hypocrisy, etc. from them.

>[1] This is all, of course, after-the-fact back-pedaling bullshit.  You
>took what Suzie('s SO) said out of context so you could get in a cheap
>shot.  

Out of context? What context was that, Chagnon? The context of Susie and
her SO raising the topic of child molestation in an inappropriate newsgroup,
you mean?

>>	B) There was no reason to inflict the thread on talk.abortion
>
> So.  Fucking.  What?   

So Susie is not the pure-as-the-driven-snow maiden-in-the-tower innocent
victim she would like to believe she is. She used my mistake, and the feelings 
of her SO, as a staging ground to pursue a long and bitter vendetta she has 
with me. Pretty reprehensible, if you ask me, to exploit a child abuse victim
like that.

								- Kevin
Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran)
Subject: Re: K. Cochran is still a homophobe
Summary: Sorry about the lateness of this, but read below... 
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: K. Cochran, homophobe, homophobia
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 18:39:01 GMT

[Sorry about the delays in some of these responses, but Nyx has been up and
down like a yo-yo and blew with a bad power supply, and I'm just now getting
caught up...]

In article <BtMAy8.6Ms@jfwhome.FUNHOUSE.COM> jfw@jfwhome.FUNHOUSE.COM (John F. Woods) writes:
>In <1992Aug25.195746.2001@bcrka451.bnr.ca> stu5s14@bcrka287.bnr.ca (James Cherry) writes:
>>What has Mr. Cochran's sexual orientation to do with his homophobia?
>>Suppose I ask Mr. Cochran what is orientation is.  And suppose he says
>>he's homosexual.  Then why would he use homosexual anal sex as an insult
>>to others?
>
>Maybe, JUST MAYBE, he knows that it's a HIGHLY EFFICIENT way of getting
>MINDLESS IDIOTS to twitch uncontrollably.  Maybe, JUST MAYBE, if you HAD
>multiply-connected neurons you'd have been able to tease that little nugget
>of wisdom from the available facts.  But since you have all the mental potential
>of potato salad......NAAAAAHHH!

I think you're giving him FAR too much credit in comparing his mental potential
to potato(e) salad...

>
>>Lastly, in article <Aug.24.17.39.24.1992.26879@romulus.rutgers.edu>,
>>aldis@romulus.rutgers.edu (Theodore A. Kaldis) writes:
>>   [K*ld*s stuff deleted]
>>I have heard of others claiming that homosexuals "thrust themselves
>>upon us".  Personally, I've never really noticed this.
>
>Maybe if you wore tighter pants.

And some hankies.  And a tighter shirt.  And for God's Sake, Sister, get those
ears pierced!
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From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (exuptr@exu.ericsson.se)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: F*ck You All
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:30:54 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.


 When is this crap gonna die, anyway?  It keeps showing up with a bunch
of irrelevant newsgroups in it.
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From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Fuck You All
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:55:03 GMT
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center

In article <1992Sep9.073346.8244@cco.caltech.edu> keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider) writes:
>hugoglez@well.sf.ca.us (Hugo Gonzalez) writes:
.....
>>How many black people have become president?  Zero.  Some people took 
>
>I don't think being president has anything to do with it.  No Asians or women
>have been president either.
.....

 You both are wrong.

 There are Asian countries that have Asian president and African countries with
black president. If my memory serves me correctly, India used to have female
president, and Bangladesh has female president, too.

 USENET for the World!

Michiaki Masuda
Xref: sparky alt.flame:12562 alt.security:4260 comp.security.misc:1166
Newsgroups: alt.flame,alt.security,comp.security.misc
From: flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal)
Subject: Re: Software Copyright protection devices
Followup-To: alt.flame
Date: 5 Sep 92 20:00:53 GMT

wolff@zen.et.tudelft.nl (Rogier Wolff) writes:
>Well... I know a few companies that actually buy packages, use them for a 
>few days, and decide they can't use it. In this case they wouldn't have
>bought it if they'd had a demo version. However I agree with you that a
>software producer is better off in this case giving away the demo version:
>they have a "satisfied customer" who knows that they don't make what they
>need, instead of a dissatisfied customer who feels bad because they paid
>for something they don't use.

But if they don't give away a demo version, they have the money paid by the
dissatisfied customer.  So which makes them more money in the end, the legacy
of satisfied customers who know that it's foolish to buy from that company, or
the hordes of dissatisfied customers who have paid for a useless product, but
continue to attempt to adapt it to their needs, paying more to the company in
the process ("ah, it's just not suiting your needs because you have to
upgrade!")?  For an unethical company, it's sometimes better to piss off your
customers.  The real life examples are limitless.
Xref: sparky alt.flame:12577 alt.fan.kevin-darcy:377 talk.abortion:35357
From: keegan@pan.crd.ge.com (James G Keegan Jr)
Newsgroups: alt.flame,alt.fan.kevin-darcy,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Kebbin begs for attention
Date: 6 Sep 92 22:16:57 GMT
Reply-To: james g keegan jr <keegan@crd.ge.com>
Organization: T.S.A.K.C.
Disclaimer: i speak for myself only, unless noted otherwise

rissa@world.std.com (Patricia O Tuama) writes:
-> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
-> >>>I do this once in a blue moon, and only when the
-> >>>abuse is rampant. Hardly
-> >>You shouldn't be doing it at all, fuckhead.
-> >You yourself, Ms. Posting-Anarchy, have condoned
-> >the practice of redirecting
-> 
-> My followup-To line refers to your repeated attempts
-> to control what and where other people post, Kebbin.
-> It doesn't refer to "redirecting", it refers to the
-> fact that you are a net.cop who would dearly love to
-> enforce your own rules of what is and is not
-> appropriate for us to post.

that's true. he was just doing again yesterday when he
wrote:

        "The context of Susie and her SO raising the
        topic of child molestation in an inappropriate
        newsgroup"
		<1992Sep5.205530.10799@rotag.mi.org>

he does seem to like telling people about what is and
what is not appropriate to post.

in the same article, he goes on to blame susan garvin
for something that he not only did, but something that
he apologized for weeks ago.

        "She used my mistake, and the feelings of her
        SO, as a staging ground to pursue a long and
        bitter vendetta she has with me. Pretty
        reprehensible, if you ask me, to exploit a
        child abuse victim like that."

-> Scramble, Kevie, scramble!  First you whine about
-> "flurries" of "unprovoked" attacks and now you're
-> desperately trying to pretend they were nothing.
-> See, Kevie, this is why hardly anybody takes you
-> seriously any more, you mean nothing, you stand for
-> nothing, you're a silly ignorant twit who can't
-> remember one moment to the next what he's written.

maybe he doesn't want to remember. as a self-protective
measure.

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Organization: Doctoral student, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: rissa@world.std.com (Patricia O Tuama)
Subject: Re: Kebbin begs for attention
Followup-To: news.net-cops.kevin-darcy
Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 09:22:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.220804.13744@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
>If redirecting does not a net.cop make, then I'm no net.cop, dear. I've never

Sure you are, Kevie.  You're all the time whining because somebody
somewhere didn't post to the "appropriate" newsgroup.  

>>Scramble, Kevie, scramble!  First you whine about "flurries" of
>>"unprovoked" attacks and now you're desperately trying to pretend
>>they were nothing.  
>They don't bother me, really, dear. I acknowledge that they exist, but they

You can't have it both ways, hon, you can't sit there and whine 
about my articles and then turn around and insist that they mean
nothing.  One or the other, Kevie, not both.

>You said no macro or function key 

It was an old t.b joke, dear, before your time.

>>And yet you were the only person out of all those tens of thou-
>>sands of netters to complain about it.  
>No complaint, dear, just a comment.

Doesn't matter, you were still the only person out of all those
tens of thousands of netters to say anything at all.  As I said,
the only reason you responded was because you were hoping I'd
notice you.

Don't knock it, Kevie, after all, you got your wish.  


----------
Kevin to dac:
> >...my taunt didn't exactly produce the desired result.
> Inept bungling rarely does.

I'd listen to him, dac.

On the subject of inept bungling, few people are more experienced than Mr.
Darcy.					
					lefty@apple.com (Lefty)
					<17500@goofy.Apple.COM>	
Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Subject: Re: test
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:56:20 GMT

speaking of clueless, 5, COUNT 'EM FIVE TESTS.

you failed.
-->arrow
Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: UsrBulzar@cs.uwp.edu
Subject: testing
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 23:37:56 GMT

Hi this is only a test.  Sorry.

Thanks for your cooperation.

Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: keegan@acm.acm.rpi.edu (James G. Keegan Jr.)
Subject: Re: Who is Kevin Darcy & why hate him so?
Reply-To: james g keegan jr <keegan@acm.rpi.edu>
Organization: T.S.A.K.C.
Disclaimer: i speak for myself only, unless noted otherwise
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 01:51:31 GMT

jfw@jfwhome.FUNHOUSE.COM (John F. Woods) writes:
-> Who, Kevin or Bis?  You really must be more specific.
-> 
-> Of course, the answer to either is essentially "just 
-> some clueless dickhead", 
-> but a few of the details differ in each case.

yea. kebbie a misogynist; blipfoo / bisfool / adi
inbar is a homophobe, imo.

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From: tom@soda.berkeley.edu (Tom Holub)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Fuck You All
Date: 9 Sep 1992 05:58:03 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <BuAowu.A4v@well.sf.ca.us> hugoglez@well.sf.ca.us (Hugo Gonzalez) writes:
)
)(I am NOT white, I am hispanic).
)
)The way I see it, this is the intelligence scale of races, smartest
)at the top...
)
)Oriental
)White
)Hispanic
)Black
)Polish

After seeing this post, I might be inclined to move 'Hispanic' down a 
couple notches.
 -Tom
Newsgroups: alt.flame,talk.politics.guns,talk.abortion
From: PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal)
Subject: Re: Rights and Legal Manuevering (Was Re: democratic platform)
Organization: The University of Tennessee, Knoxville
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:43:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.040317.734@rotag.mi.org>
kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:

>
>In article <lefty-270892171232@lefty.apple.com> lefty@apple.com (Lefty) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug24.053620.8705@rotag.mi.org>, kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin
>>"I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on the net" Darcy) wrote, inadvisedly:
>>>
>>> In article <1992Jul29.172609.15837@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> andy@SAIL.Stanord.EDU (Andy Freeman) writes:
>>>
>>> >>Does EVERYONE constitute "the press"?
>>> >
>>> >Actually, they do.
>>>
>>> Wrong. To be "the press", one has to produce some sort of written matter.
>>> Speaking aloud, for instance, does make one "the press", even though both
>>> written and spoken communications are protected by the First. Written matter
>>> is not protected under "free speech". Spoken matter is not protected under
>>> "freedom of the press". They are separate and distinct rights, and, in
>>> each case, refer to SUBSETS of "the people" -- those who have spoken, and
>>> those who have written, respectively.
>>
>>This tortuous and clearly erroneous interpretation will no doubt be of
>>great interest to broadcast journalists.
>
>I doubt it. I'm sure they all realize that First Amendment protections can't
>be invoked unless they actually say something (or at least communicate it
>using some mutually-intelligible medium).

     Does this then mean that their "freedom of the press" is not
an issue until they *actually* print/broadcast something?  Or is the
*intent to broadcast something enough?  If the government shows up
and takes away your printing press *before* you print something, have
they violated the freedom of the press?

>Lefty, you seem to be implying that the First Amendment applies even in the
>absence of communication. Is it your contention that the Amendment covers
>mere THOUGHTS, then (the obvious corollary)?

     Like most other freedoms, the freedom to communicate includes the
freedom not to communicate.  Free speech, and of the press, is
the freedom not only to print or say what you want, but to print it
*when* you want, or not print it all.
     You seem to think that if you can be *prevented* from speaking
that your rights have not been violated, because it is only *when*
you speak that your right comes into play.
     By the way, out of curiosity.  If the First Amendment does not
cover thoughts, then what methods, if any may the government use
to regulate them?

[Quibbling on court case citation formats, of all things, deleted.]

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|             University of Tennessee Division of Continuing Education |
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From: keegan@pan.crd.ge.com (James G Keegan Jr)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: blipfool returns from summer camp
Date: 13 Sep 92 12:18:03 GMT
Reply-To: james g keegan jr <keegan@crd.ge.com>
Followup-To: misc.test
Organization: T.S.A.K.C.
Disclaimer: i speak for myself only, unless noted otherwise

adi inbar / blipfool / bisfool posting as
bis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Bis) writes:
-> In article <1992Sep13.012925.2737@crd.ge.com> 
-> >adi inbar / blipfool / bisfool posting as
-> >bis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Bis) writes:
-> >-> <keegan@crd.ge.com> blushes and babbles
-> >-> >that's bisfool, blipfool, aka adi inbar. his
-> >-> >claim to fame is that he bragged about inviting
-> >-> >a gay person to his dorm room and beating him
-> >-> >up.

first he denies it ....

-> >-> For the record:  This never happened. 
-> 
-> >        "No, what I can't forget is the fag that
-> >        waltzed in here a few months ago and
-> >        wouldn't keep his grimy paws to himself
-> >        until I kicked his ground beef ass and
-> >        tossed him out of the building."
-> >        <1991Apr15.085312.20767@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
-> 
-> For the record:  This never happened.

then, after it's proven, he denies it again.

which is one reason this happened ....

-> >-> >shortly thereafter, he was laughed off the net
-> >-> >for quite a while.
-> >-> 
-> >-> I wasn't laughed off the net.
-> >
-> >if you want to admit that you scurried away like a
-> >cowardly rat, i won't argue.
-> 
-> But I didn't

sure you did. an now you're lying about it.

-> >-> As a matter of fact, keeg, I wrote responses to
-> >-> the last round of flames on that subject, but
-> >-> the news server here broke down, and when I got
-> >-> a newsfeed from a different account, the threads
-> >-> were dead and some of the people were gone, so I
-> >-> didn't bother to post them.
-> >
-> >i think you should look in alt.newbie.lame.excuse
-> >for something a bit more compelling than the old
-> >broken news server line sonny.
-> 
-> First, jimmy, news servers *do* break down from time
-> to time, that's a fact of life.  Second, there's a
-> difference between this and "the old broken news
-> server line"

sure there is. yours is newer.

-> >unless you just scurry off again.
-> 
-> Oh, you can *bet* I'll be gone in a few weeks.  

do you really think you'll last that long?

        "Excuse me, pal, but if you can't see whats disgusting
        about someone shoving his dick up someone else's butt,
        *you're* the one that's fucked up."
		bis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Bis)
		<1991Mar25.005746.8968@news.cs.brandeis.edu> 
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From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (exuptr@exu.ericsson.se)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Who is Kevin Darcy & why hate him so?
Date: 13 Sep 92 21:37:36 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article <BuGxH8.23D@jfwhome.FUNHOUSE.COM> jfw@jfwhome.FUNHOUSE.COM (John F. Woods) writes:
>From: jfw@jfwhome.FUNHOUSE.COM (John F. Woods)
>Subject: Re: Who is Kevin Darcy & why hate him so?
>Date: 12 Sep 92 13:58:18 GMT

>In <exuptr.472.716142645@exu.ericsson.se> exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (exuptr@exu.ericsson.se) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep10.130459.25368@news.cs.brandeis.edu> 
> bis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Bis) whines:
>>> [ it has never mattered what Bis whines ]
>>Who is this guy?

>Who, Kevin or Bis?  You really must be more specific.

Uh, Bis.  It's hard not to know who Kebbie is.

>Of course, the answer to either is essentially "just some clueless dickhead", 
>but a few of the details differ in each case.

Ah.  Thanks.
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Newsgroups: alt.flame,talk.politics.guns,talk.abortion
From: kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy)
Subject: Re: Rights and Legal Manuevering (Was Re: democratic platform)
Organization: Who, me???
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 04:03:17 GMT

In article <lefty-270892171232@lefty.apple.com> lefty@apple.com (Lefty) writes:
>In article <1992Aug24.053620.8705@rotag.mi.org>, kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin
>"I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on the net" Darcy) wrote, inadvisedly:
>> 
>> In article <1992Jul29.172609.15837@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) writes:
>> 
>> >>Does EVERYONE constitute "the press"?
>> >
>> >Actually, they do.  
>> 
>> Wrong. To be "the press", one has to produce some sort of written matter.
>> Speaking aloud, for instance, does make one "the press", even though both
>> written and spoken communications are protected by the First. Written matter 
>> is not protected under "free speech". Spoken matter is not protected under 
>> "freedom of the press". They are separate and distinct rights, and, in 
>> each case, refer to SUBSETS of "the people" -- those who have spoken, and 
>> those who have written, respectively.
>
>This tortuous and clearly erroneous interpretation will no doubt be of
>great interest to broadcast journalists.

I doubt it. I'm sure they all realize that First Amendment protections can't
be invoked unless they actually say something (or at least communicate it 
using some mutually-intelligible medium).

Lefty, you seem to be implying that the First Amendment applies even in the
absence of communication. Is it your contention that the Amendment covers
mere THOUGHTS, then (the obvious corollary)? 

>> >Need or not, the 2nd amendment was analysed fairly early.  Cruikshank
>> >said that the 2nd and the 1st were both individual rights protected
>> >against federal infringement.  
>> 
>> I see another name. Who the hell is "Cruikshank", and is he or she a
>> credible source for ANYTHING WHATSOEVER?
>
>US vs. Cruikshank, sometime in the late 1870s, a decision in which it was
>stated that the right to keep and bear arms was was an "inalienable" right
>as opposed to one "granted" by the Constitution.

Then Mr. Freeman needs some serious help with his legal citation style. It is 
not normal to say "X said ...", where X is a court opinion, and -especially-
if X is shortened form of the case name, e.g. "Cruikshank" for _US vs. 
Cruikshank_, or e.g. "Roe" for _Roe v. Wade_. One would expect, instead, to see
this phrased as "in X, it was ruled that ...".  Furthermore, case names in 
EITHER form should be graphically indicated, e.g. by the use of italics or 
full underlining, in a typeset document, or some facsimile thereof in a 
character-based medium such as Usenet (my personal preference, as you can see 
above, is the use of leading and trailing underline symbols, _thus_, but many 
other variations are acceptable).

>But of course you wouldn't know that, would you, Mr. "Servitus Tigni
>Immitendi"?  

I see my bitter sarcasm still has your ego reeling, even after all these
months. Well, as they say, "Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke"...

>I see your grasp of Constitutional law equals your grasp of contract law.

Thanks for the compliment.

								- Kevin