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From: shine@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (stephen.c.shine)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: I've Been Infested!
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:32:44 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article thester@nyx.cs.du.edu (Uncle Fester) writes:
>>a great many very thin white worms wriggling around on the sides of my
>>aquarium. They are about the thickness of a hair, maybe 4cm long, and ar
>
>Could be planaria. (flatworms)

A definite possibility.  These may be an indication that your tank isn't
as clean as it should be.  Piranhas are pretty sloppy eaters.

>Use Maracide.

This is symptomatic treatment and probably won't do you much good in the
long run.  I would suggest reducing the amount you feed and increasing
your tank maintenance.  The worms will starve to death in a few weeks.
I've had some very large oscars (aka "pigs with fins") for about a decade 
now, and they make piranhas' eating techniques dainty in comparison.
This is not an uncommon problem, but it's really simple to solve by
increasing cleanliness.

Don't get me wrong: chemicals have their place, but this is not one
of them.
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From: grjost@uts.amdahl.com (Garrett Jost)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: 'stained glass' fish - genuine or modified fakes?
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:16:10 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

thester@nyx.cs.du.edu (Uncle Fester) writes:
>You made a good point.  Distributors not telling the dealers.  Just as
>unscrupulous as the dealer that knows.  And as for the people that just
>"pick up what they know" at the store, I usually stay away from those type
>of establishments.  If you're going to sell something, you should be
>extremely knowledgeable about what it is you sell.  I don't take my car to
>be repaired by people that learned their mechanical stuff from the car
>that came in yesterday.
     Remember, when you go into a pet store that also sells fish (I worked
at a place like that), you can't expect EVERY employee to know about every
animal sold there.  Usually, they all have specialties.  But we were usually
up front about it to (i.e. I don't know, let me find someone who does).
     There are also stores where most of the employees don't know much about
fish, too.  That's when you have to worry...no one likes to bring home
fish that end up infecting your tank because the employees didn't know about
filters, water changes, and diseases.  It happened to me once; I now screen
my stores carefully before buying any new fish.

Garrett
From: Paul.Conaway@p22.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Paul Conaway)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: RE: Mac Aquarium
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 12:30:34 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.22 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH

To:gusbergi@idbsu.edu
   
Rob Bergin writes in a message to All

 ->  To: All  From: -unknown-  Subject: Mac Aquarium  Created: 
 -> Sat 10 Oct 92 at 15:32 
 -> From: gusbergi@idbsu.edu Newsgroups: alt.aquaria Organization: 
 -> Boise State University Reply-To: gusbergi@idbsu.edu 
 ->   Has anyone ever heard or seen a text file that lets you turn 
 -> a macintosh computer into an aquarium? My tyrant of a boss 
 -> seems to think that there is one out there somewhere detailing 
 -> the process. If you have ever heard of such a file please let 
 -> me now for we have a few (16) old Macintosh Pluses with trashed 
 -> power packs and cpu's that we would like to turn into pleasant 
 -> homes for goldfish. 
 -> Rob Bergin Faculty Computer Lab Boise State University 
 -> --- Fred-Uf 1.8k  * Origin: cmhGate UseNet <=> FidoNet Gateway 
 -> Col, Ohio (1:226/20.0) 

Rob, check the MacUser magazine sometime this summer they mentioned that there
are a file on ZiPF-net that contained the instructions on how to do this.

Paul
 
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From: mike@ra.cs.umb.edu (Michael J. Thibodeau)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: (DIY) Aquarium Design
Date: 12 Oct 92 02:17:06 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston, Dept of Math and CS

In article <1992Oct11.053131.7444@netcom.com> oleg@netcom.com (Oleg Kiselev) writes:
>In article <BvxvsC.4Jn@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ffujita@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Frank Fujita) writes:
>>Well, I don't know anything about building a tank, but maybe someone
>>will comment on what type of fish you are going to put in a tank that is
>>4" wide.  I'd think that a tank that is that thin will look underful
>>even when it is overful.  
>
>Perhaps a school of small tetras or danios?  Can't get anything big, it
>will not be able to turn around.  Proper filtration will be very important
>and non-trivial.  If carefully planted, it may not look flat, but given the
>way the refraction index of water tends to make the normal aquariums look
>flat, a "picture" aquarium may look 2-dimensional regardless of what you
>do.
>-- 
>Oleg Kiselev at home			...use the header to find the path

My father, a Dentist, built an aquarium/window in the center of a partition
wall in his office waiting room. the dimensions as near as I can guesstimate
were approx. 6"x24"x36" The inhabitants of the tank were at first various
schooling fish, sword tails and other guppies. later he switched to gold fish,
lion heads, moors, and those large ones with the water filled sacks aroung
their already bulbous eyes. I can remember him building the tank in the dining
room of our house about 10 years ago.

it looks roughly like this:
wall surrounds it with cabinet doors above it to access the top for
maintenance. and storage of supplies(food,airpump etc.)

		________________________________________
		|\                 \ \                 |\  filter hangs on side
		| \                 \ \                | \
		|  \                 \ \               |  \
		|   \_________________\_\__________________\
		|   |                                  :   |
		|   |                                  :   |
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		|   |                                  :   |
		|...|..................................:   |
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		   \|                                    ` |
		    |______________________________________|
-mike
                
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From: davep@paladin.corp.sgi.com (David Packer)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Help [S]with Maroon Clown!
Date: 12 Oct 1992 17:04:29 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: paladin.corp.sgi.com


Hi,

I recently added two fish to my new Saltwater tank. A
Maroon Clown and a Foxface.  The tank is new and has 
passed all the chemical tests for the run in period.

The maroon clown hasn't shown any signs of stress, but
after (2) days in the tank I have noticed a white film
around his right Gill, along with what looked like a
wart?! I thought maybe the terror of being in a new
tank caused him to brush up against a piece of coral
causing a little damage to his guill. On day (3) the
white film started to  cover more of his right gill and
expand during the day to cover his entire right front
and last night the white film has started to encroach
over the top onto the other side.

here is a list of my analysis:

1) it doesn't look like ich, because there are no tiny
   cysts within the white film. Nor are there any spec
   marks on the fins.

2) the white film peels?! off into the tank and floats to
   the bottom. I'm assuming the white film maybe muccus.

3) The first day in the tank I noticed two clear specs.
   on the right side of his body (about mid-way).

4) the wart looking thing on his right gill I would say is
   about 1/8" in size.

5) PH = 8.2 / NITRITE = 0 / Ammonia =< .25 / NITRATE <20ppm
   COPPER < .5 (Chealated) / GALLONS = 40 / SALINITY = 1.021
   TEMP RANGE = 79-82 

6) Maroon Clown - 3.25" / assumed female


Any help would be appreciated        

Thanx ahead of time...

Dave
From: fusion@terapin.com (Jerry Chang)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Canister Filters
Date: 12 Oct 92 02:15:02 GMT
Organization: BBS

I need some advice about canister filters.  My setup right now includes a 50
gallon tank with a heater, UGF and air pump for my arrawona, 2 tin-foil barbs
and a pleco.  I would like to put in a better filter system but I'm new to the
hobby of aquariums and need advice.

What type of filter is the best?  I've seen canisters rated by gph.  What does
this mean and how much do I need for a 50 gallon tank?  I thinking about a
Fluval 303 222 gph.  Is this enough?  What do canister filters do and how do
they work to keep a tank clean?

Any and all advice is MUCH appreciated,
Jerry

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From: 01mbmccabe@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: (Non-)Aquascaping Mo-Fo!
Date: 15 Oct 92 06:29:16 GMT

Does anyone besides myself feel completely at a loss trying to aquascape fo
cichlids?  It seems there are just so many way I can throw rocks around the
bottom of an aquarium.  I think the most creative thing I've read/heard about
(about 1,000,000 times!!) is (*snotty*),"Stack one flat rock on two others to
make a cave.."  (*unsnotty*)  This idea sucks.  I hate the idea of Stonehenge
in my tank.  Anyone not as lost os me and have some suggestions?


Part of my problem may just be my settup.  I have 20H w/one ~5" Oscar, and a
tin-foil Barb and Hypost. both ~4"-5" .  Do I just not have enough to work
with?

			-Matt
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: mattk@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (matthew.kaufman)
Subject: Re: mystery eggs found
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 00:50:38 GMT
Summary: Snails!

In article <1992Oct12.202124.26829@microsoft.com> jony@microsoft.com (Jonny Yeargers) writes:
>Yesterday I found a small 'clutch' (group? gathering? pile?) of
>eggs stuck to a small Amazon sword plant. The whole pile is roughly
>2 cm long and surrounded by an almost invisible clear membrane. The
>eggs themselves (~30- 40) are a mix of clear 'shells' and clear shells
>with a white dot in the middle. I am curious to know what they are
>from and if I should be protecting them or removing them. 

You didn't mention if there were snails in the tank, but what you describe
sound exactly like snail eggs - either ramshorns or pond snails.
Fish (at least the one's I have experience with) don't lay eggs surrounded
by 'clear membranes.' If you remove the leaf in question and the eggs
are actually in something like a clear jelly, its snails, guaranteed.
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Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: pfingsta@inm.uni-sb.de (Ulrich Pfingstag)
Subject: Need help with unknown fish desease!!
Organization: Institute for New Materials (INM), Saarbr"ucken, Germany.
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 11:52:44 GMT

Please send all answers to grimm@inm.uni-sb.de
Hi fellows,
I have a problem with a terrible fishdesease. 
These are the symptoms:
my cichlids have small white holes in the head-region 
the desease is proceeding slowly and in the end the fish will die. :-(

I think this desease is called Ichtyosporidiosis or Hexamita
and I tried a medication against this desease called Hexa-ex.
Now my questions:
-Are the two deseases mentioned above identical?
-Does anybody know a siutable medication for this desease?
-Is there any possibility for another desease with the same symptoms?

With many greetings from the old continent I' am expecting Your
answers. And don't forget : send all answers to grimm.inm.uni-sb.de 

Yours Bob





Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: birger@sdata.no (Birger A. Wathne)
Subject: Re: (Non-)Aquascaping Mo-Fo!
Reply-To: birger@sdata.no
Organization: Skrivervik Data A/S
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 13:24:08 GMT

I have a 530l tank (1.5m long), and I have had some problems as well.
The tank is so much bigger than our previous (100l) that it has taken a while
to get used to it and see the possibilities. It has also taken a while for the
plants to achieve a size where we can see what they will look like in
the final product. We have just redone the whole thing. It starts off with a
barren, rocky landscape at one end. Rather big stones. Some flat ones tilting
up here an there. Some roots that create the big cave for the Severums (They like
some kind of shelter when they breed). The landscape calms down gradually, to smooth rounded stones, and then to pure gravel. Big plants at the gravel end, more sparse
towards the barren end. It looks nice. I hope the fish agree.


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         Thormoehlensgt 55, N-5008 Bergen          Fax: +47 5 322853

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From: snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com (Cindy Newell)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: Need Help With Ick!!!
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:44:55 GMT
Organization: Denver, Colorado

In article <1992Oct07.173620.22215@brtph560.bnr.ca> rzeller@brtph450.bnr.ca (Richard Zeller P860) writes:

>and lowering the temp and using their product called Ick Guard (by Jungle
>products).  In the two days since using this, the ick has seem to lessen a bit,
>but this morning I lost two of my original fish (my favorites), 4 inch
>clown loaches.  I have lost about 8 fish total so far.

>Bud

Hi Bud,

First of all, the same thing happened to me.  Did the product you
used to treat the Ick turn the water blueish/green?  If so, this
product is really hard on bottom feeders (ie loaches, catfish,
plecos, etc).  I killed 6 clowns this way, until I asked at a
legitimate fish store not the mall kind, and they gave me another
product called "CopperSafe."  Cured the Ick up pretty quick.

You will need to get some activated carbon and put it in your filter,
if you have one, and do water changes.  That is all I can tell
you...I am pretty much a novice at this.

Sorry about your clowns, they are my favorite fish as well, and
I get sad everytime I lose one.

Cindy



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Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: jony@microsoft.com (Jonny Yeargers)
Subject: [F] plants - blooming
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:15:11 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Distribution: usa

My anubias lanceolata is blooming! I really dont know anything about 
sexual propogation in aquatic plants. Are anubias self fertile? All the
bees that I've tried to get to work on this problem have drowned. (no but
seriously folks) Is there anyway that I can get viable seeds out of this
flower? JonY@microsoft.com
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From: oleg@netcom.com (Oleg Kiselev)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria,sci.aquaria
Subject: Re: Weird gadget, opinions?
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:38:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1992Oct7.183858.8063
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <JARTSU.92Oct5150219@vipunen.hut.fi> Jari.Lehto@hut.fi writes:
>has something a lot better: a hydrogen peroxide operated "thing" which
>maintains both high O2 and CO2 levels, ozonizes the water and

Think of it as a gradual oxygen infusion.  H2O2 decomposes into atomic
oxygen and water, raising ORP and so on.  I am not sure how it will increase
the CO2 levels.   I have a similar device in one of my tanks and I can't
tell much difference between that tank and others.  Of course, I don't have a
scientific experiment here - 2 tanks identically set up, one with an
oxygenator and one without.  There is less slime build up and mich
less visible debree and crud in the tank, so the extra oxygen may be
contributing to the aerobic bacterial activity.  The reviews of these gismos
that I have seen in the press were very favourable, but only Brittish
magazines paid attention to oxygenators and they are not all that wide
spread in US.


-- 
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From: ola@lesti.hut.fi (Ola Rinta-Koski)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: Mac Aquarium
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:18:26 GMT
Organization: BREWTeX '92 -- International Boy Stout Organization

In article <1992Oct10.153242.1563@guinness.idbsu.edu> gusbergi@idbsu.edu writes:
>Has anyone ever heard or seen a text file that lets you turn a macintosh
>computer into an aquarium?  My tyrant of a boss seems to think that there is
>one out there somewhere detailing the process.  If you have ever heard of such
>a file please let me now for we have a few (16) old Macintosh Pluses with
>trashed power packs and cpu's that we would like to turn into pleasant homes
>for goldfish.

  Please post any additional information... I too am contemplating
turning an old-style Mac (an 128K, but physically the same as Plus)
into an aquarium. Not sure about goldfish though. A few weeks ago
somebody asked for ideas for a 2G tank. Since a Mac shell will contain
about that amount of water, I too expressed my interest. No replies so
far... so, the request is still valid.
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From: cliff@watson.ibm.com (cliff)
Subject: Re: Canister Filters
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:48:27 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: A

This regards the question on Cannister filters.  I have a Fluval 403.
Very nice, super quiet, super flow rate.  Only hesitation is the 
difficulty in cleaning it.  You also have to be careful how you
seat the top on the bottom with the rubber O-ring.  I once did
it improperly and water started spraying out the crack between the 
top and bottom.  The flow rate is so high, I wonder if it is good 
for delicate fish...  Probably various placements of the spray bar helps.
Supposedly one has to clean the cannister about once every three months.
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: rclark@alcor.concordia.ca (Richard Clark)
Subject: Building an Aquarium (was Possible dumb question
Organization: Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 00:54:06 GMT

In article <9210071905.AA00375@fozzy.aud.alcatel.com> stecker@FOZZY.AUD.ALCATEL.COM (David Stecker) writes:
>Are there kits out there to build your own aquarium?
>
>If there are if a newbie tries this is he likely to
>got a few gallons of water in his living room?

I can't imagine why someone who doesn't have some special requirements
for an aquarium would want to build his own.  As for a "kit", it is
glass and and silicone sealant (without additives that kill fungus and
such).  I have built aquariums in the distant past, but it just isn't
worth it for my simple needs.  It would also probably cost me more for
glass than to buy the tank already built.  I recently paid almost
Cdn$10 for 1 piece of 4mm glass approx 60cm x 30cm.  If you want to do
it for "fun", go ahead, it's not that tough.

rick
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From: eyeater@pbs.org
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: flow rate of Eheim 1050 pump
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:41:09 GMT
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA

In article <1992Oct1.215922.20342@PDX.MENTORG.COM>, joemu@mentorg.com (Joe Mueller) writes:
> I plan to replace my Eheim 1050 hobby pump with
> a canister filter with the same flow rate to add
> chemical filtration to my wet-dry filter. I can't
> find anything within the documentation that states
> the flow rate (Gallons/Liters per hour) of this
> pump. I seem to remember it's around 300GPH but
> would like to know if any of the net experts
> know for sure. If all else fails, I'll have to
> resort to sticking the pump in the bathtub and
> measure how much water it pumps in a minute or
> so and extrapolate...
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Joe_Mueller@mentorg.com

	Though I'm far from a "net expert", I DO have a catalog from "That
  Fish Place", which has a list of Eheim hobby pumps.  Unfortunately, they
  have no listing for a 1050.  Could it be an older model?
	They do have a 1048 listed (160 gph, 5 feet, 10 watts), as well as
  a model 1250 (320 gph, 7.5 feet, 28 watts).
	Soooo... if you're looking to pump around 300 gph through a canister,
  it looks like you'll need an Eheim 2217 (closer to 400 gph, but the next
  lower model, the 2215, only does 165 gph), or perhaps a Fluval model 403.

	Hope this helps...

  [Eric Yeater, for whom the Public Broadcasting Service is not responsible]
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