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From: ahanson@boi.hp.com (Angela Hanson)
Subject: Re: young puppies and biting
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 15:25:37 GMT
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Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
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Kenneth Crudup (kenny@osf.org) wrote:
: Otis, my girlfriend's 9 wk. old Lhasa Apso male, has gotten into the habit
: 
: of biting everything in sight, including humans. I've used the advice of
: a book I read that says to give him admonitions about this, but it's an
: uphill battle. I think he's teething, and we've given him a furry bear he
: seems to like to bite on, but he will occasionally bite when he's near us,
: and goes after socks and shoes so adamantly we've almost tripped over
: ourselves trying to stop when he decides to hang on tight when one of our
: feet starts going up.
: 
: Is there some remedy to this? If it's teething, what can we give him to
: chew on?
: 

Our first dog, Bernie, loved to chew on human fingers from the day we first got him.
With those sharp puppy teeth it sure did hurt.  When he would put his mouth over our fingers,
we would yell "ouch" (you don't have to do it too loud).  The ouch startled the pup and he
would just kind of look at us and we would massively praise him for taking his mouth off of
our fingers and then give him a toy which he could chew on.  His bite would get softer and
softer after a while of doing this.  It was a very effective method.  At six months he had
his first weekend sleep over at the puppy sitters and she commented on how he would never
bit down on her fingers.  When we play rough, (now he is two and a good 100 pounds), and I 
accidentally put my hand or something in his mouth, he never bites down and he has been 
great with kids (and we know how kids love putting their fingers in or near their mouth).

In the Monks of New Skete book, they talk about another suggestion which others we have known
have tried with success.

When Bernie was going through teething, he found an old blanket and he would sit in the 
middle of the living room and suck on it for hours.  He would drag it with him everywhere and
would get upset if he could not get to it (just like a kid).  This worked get for teething,
but it was not greate after teething.  After teething, and we took his blanket away (he has
slightly demolished it), he decided towels would replace his blanket.  So it we accidentally
leave a towel on the flow, he will lay next to it and suck on it.  He does not seem to rip
the towel though.  It has taken a long time to break him of the habbit, he is now two.
He still will occasionally suck on a towel, but not very often.  Because of this experience,
we never gave our second dog a blanket, rolled up socks, or anything which resembled the 
type of material.  She has never chewed on clothes, towels, blankets, anything.  Except she
did dig a hole through the wall in the laundry room.  She almost made it to the hallway.

Just our experiences.

Good luck,

Angie
From: michaelq@tlaloc.sw.stratus.com (Michael Quicquaro)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Dalmations
Date: 30 Dec 1992 23:38:04 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: tlaloc.sw.stratus.com

My wife and I are thinking about getting a dalmation.  However, I have heard
so many different negative stories about dalmations that I am confused and
unsure if it is the right dog for us.  I was wondering if some people who have 
dalmations would confirm or reject the follow things:

	1) ...they are very high strung, hyper dogs.
	2) ...very clumsy. (not necessarily negative)
	3) ...they are unintelligent and very difficult to train.

I have also heard that they are very lovable.  Whats the real story?
Any info you can provide would be a great help and greatly appreciated.

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From: keenan@kanga.aero.org (Don Keenan)
Subject: AKC address?		
Keywords: AKC	
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation; El Segundo, CA
Distribution: us
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 22:43:58 GMT

I need the address for AKC registration ( in North Carolina 
I think ). My dog is registered and I'd like to  compete 
in obedience trials, but I've lost his registration. 

Please respond via e-mail to keenan@louploup.aero.org.

Thanks.
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Subject: Re: Opal's Inferiority Complex
From: shoran@mtroyal.ab.ca
Date: 21 Dec 92 11:52:05 MST
Organization: Mount Royal College, Calgary, Alberta

In article <17DEC199211530733@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov>, prkenne@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (CAROL SHARP) writes:
> In article <BzEu6u.A8A@acsu.buffalo.edu>, kkeating@acsu.buffalo.edu (Kelly Anne Hinkle) writes...
>>The problem is this--whenever I scold Jessica for doing something she knows
>>she shouldn't, Opal slinks away like I'm yelling at her.  So as I'm saying,
>>"J, no!", I have to say "Good dog, Opal!"  It's kinda hard sometimes!  :)
>> 
>>Any suggestions?  
> 
> I'd also be very interested in suggestions as Buddy has the same reaction 
> when I yell at the cat.  He doesn't seem to understand that kitty is not 
> his name and he's not the bad one!
> 
> Carol
>

My dogs have always reacted this way, looking sad/guilty and slinking off as if
in disgrace, whether I was scolding husband/child/another dog/cat.  I always
figured it was a sympathetic gesture on their part, feeling sad and upset that
I was angry enough to yell at some other poor creature in the house.  It always
make me smile and call out to the innocent one, "OK, Cassy, you can come out
from under the couch, I didn't mean you!"  And that's usually enough to bring
her wriggling out, relieved and wagging and smiling.  (It's usually enough for
the transgressor to do the same too, hoping for forgiveness!)

Stef  
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From: schneid@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike Schneider)
Subject: why is my dog scooting around on his butt?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:32:06 GMT

Yes, we've all seen our dogs do this occasionally.  I've heard
different explanations...could someone explain to me why my
dog does this occasionally, and what the frequency may mean?
-- 
!!! Mike Schneider *** schneid@jerry.stat.uiuc.edu !!!
!!!     Assistant Manager of Systems Services      !!!
!!!            Department of Statistics            !!!
!!!   University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign   !!!
From: ljb@parkcity.dr.att.com (BLO54620-BonhamLJ(DR2194)240)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Bad Beagle Problems
Date: 31 Dec 92 22:46:41 GMT

In article <92365.091503IDMLH@ASUACAD.BITNET>, IDMLH@ASUACAD.BITNET writes:
|> My husband and I have a 1 yr. old female Beagle who is to say the least
|> an obnoxious child!  Since going into her first heat about 6 months ago
|> she's actually gotten better, but we're still having tremendous problems
|> disciplining her.
|> 
|> She prefers not to listen to our commands.  She will go out into the back
|> yard at 10pm and bark for 10 minutes straight and will ignore our commands
|> unless we insert the "t" word (treat).  There are many, many other instances
|> and examples I could write...but I don't want to write too much!  So,
|> if anyone has any suggestions as to what to do...please tell me!!!!


Beagles are stuborn with a capital "S"!  The male I had would only do things
if he thought they were a good idea.  Pick up a copy of "People, Pooches, and
Problems" at a book store or pet supply store.  I wish I had had this book
when I had my Beagle, the techniques would have worked wonders. 

As an interim measure you could try one or both of the following.  Fill up
some water baloons and throw them at the hound when she ignors your command
to stop barking.  Accompany the arrival of the baloon on target with a low,
growling "NO!".  The other strategy is to put five or ten pennies in an empty
coffee can, tape the lid on, and throw this in the vicinity of the animal.
BE VERY CAREFUL NOT TO HIT THE DOG WITH THE CAN!  Of course the throw is 
accompanied by the "NO!".  The idea is to do something that will get the dog's
undivided attention and give it the impression that it is not beyond your
range of control.

Also, sounds like the hound needs work on the "come" command.  The book
suggested above has excellent meathods for remedial training.

Good luck!  My experience with my beloved flop-eared Beagle could have been
well described by the following line from Shakespeare's Henery V.
"... though from my heart I do love the little bully..."


Larry
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From: sla54@cas.org (Sandra Augustine)
Subject: Re: Obedience v. Breed
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:53:24 GMT

In article <168C48124.CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu> CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes) writes:

		  <Lots of text deleted>
>
>In fairness, the show ring isn't totally to blame.  Popularity of the
>breed among people that just want a nice pet, and then proceed to breed
>that pet has also had a significant impact on the detriment of many
>breeds (note the GSD back in the Rin Tin Tin era).
>
	This is an interesting point, Chris. I can't remember the exact numbers,
but I do recall that the Golden Retriever Club of America calculated that
only a small percentage (let say 5-10%, but this is just my guess) of the
golden retrievers registered with AKC were bred by GRCA members. Almost everyone
that I can think of (although I'm sure that there are many exceptions) who
shows goldens in conformation is a GRCA member. This suggests that only a small
portion of the registered golden retrievers were bred by "show people".
	I do know that in our local golden retriever club (which is made up
of show people, field people, obedience people, and people with one golden who
primarily serves as the family pet), only a limited number of litters are
produced by club members every year (much less than 1/month). In contrast,
there are often 10 litters advertised each week in the local Sunday paper.
	My suspicion is that the people who have the most influence on "popular"
breeds like goldens as far as sheer numbers of puppies registered are the
so called "backyard" breeders.

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NORWOOD KENNELS   |Retrievers who do therapy dog work, a disobedient but
ems: sla54@cas.org|beautiful Siberian husky and a *cute* Norfolk terrier puppy
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From: gbelli@opal.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Prong collar?
Summary: Come ON, Spenser!
Date: 22 Dec 92 16:43:00 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

I read a post (from whom, I forget--sorry) about a pulling dog.  I have 
trouble with the opposite--a lagging dog--ie "Oh boy!  This is interesting!
I think I'll sniff it and sniff it and maybe pull my owner out into the 
street, while I'm at it"  Anyway, the point of all this is that an item called
a prong collar has been mentioned.  What is this ominously-named thing?
A choke collar has less than no effect on Spenser--would a prong collar
be appropriate?  Thanks so much.

Gret & Spense (no thanks from him)
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From: almanb@sr.hp.com (Bob Alman)
Subject: Re: Flexi Tie-Out: Does it work?
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:01:04 GMT
Organization: HP Sonoma County (SRSD/MWTD/MID)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Kathleen Creighton (casey@well.sf.ca.us) wrote:
: 
: >attach (tether to overhead line) to dog's *buckle* collar
: 
: No way.  Harness only.  Have you ever seen a running dog hauled up by
: the neck?  Very scary.  Why not be safe?

I used the "attach (tether to overhead line) to dog's *buckle* collar" method on
my first dog and lost her to a broken neck. I was stunned as she was a Samoyed
with a very stout neck. Also, I used a nylon rope as the overhead to absorb
shock; I thought this would be OK.  Since then I have gone to a harness as
opposed to a collar and I feel safe that an accident like this will not repeat.
I still use a heat-set (fairly low stretch and 1000 pound test) nylon rope with
a strong brass pully. The run I use is > 100 ft long and about 7' high. I use a
chain leash (a strong one) and clip it on a clip which is attached to the
pully. This allows me to walk him to the run and simply attach the leash. The
leash is just long enough to let him lie down with only a small amount of force
pulling up. Don't use long chains or they may get tangled in them and strangle.
You can use cable instad of rope; I just had alot of this rope. The pully
reduces wear and noise. The rope will wear out a metal ring pretty quick and I
have had the plastic coating on the wire wear out too. I don't use collars any
more because I think the dog is much more comfortable in the harness. You can
pass the seat belt through the harness when your dog is in the car too.

One more note: to reduce the chance of the dog winding himself around the pole
or tree at the end of the run, tie a knot in the line or put a clamp a few feet
from the end so he can't get around it.
--
Bob Alman  1-707-577-4148 almanb@sr.hp.com
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From: Desiree_Bradley@mindlink.bc.ca (Desiree Bradley)
Subject: An Anti-Dog Trend Coming?
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 23:16:28 GMT

Recently I've noticed that in every park and along every beach where I live
(Vancouver area) there is a sign saying "No Dogs."  I think the signs don't
mean unleashed dogs, but ANY dogs.  Then I think I read a while ago that dogs
are not going to be allowed in Pacific Rim park (on west coast of Vancouver
Island).  Maybe it's because I grew up in a small town and, besides that,
might be in my declining years (please don't comment that the "declining
years" part is obvious) --  but -- I do think that somehow there is a trend
to anti-dog restrictions.  This in a part of the world where people are so
keen about the environment and on animal life!

And then there is the the little matter of practically every apartment
building saying "no pets."  (By the way, those "no dogs" signs I mentioned in
the beginning of my posting are in areas where there are houses.)  My condo
apartment building had dogs when I moved in.  Now the rules are "no dogs,
cats, birds, or fish".  When I objected at the strata council meeting I had
only one supporter in the fight against the rule change.  Of course, a lot of
the people looked over 60.  So it could be a matter of the population
"greying."  I'm not looking for sympathy.  I'm just noting what is a trend
where I live, and I'm hoping it's not a trend where you live.

Desiree Bradley
From: jhill@sierra.com (Julie Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: OFA - Is it worth appealing?
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:42:18 GMT
Organization: Sierra Geophysics Inc.,  Kirkland, Wa

In article <1992Dec16.182440.26724@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> janicki@tuxedo.enet.dec.com writes:
>
>(1) The xrays are randomly assigned to 3 radiologists from a group of
>(I think) 20 or so who have obtained their certification from the AVMA.
>These vets know how to read xrays. The local vets (even Dr. Hank) do not
>see the number of xrays these radiologists do. The fact that you appealed
>and got the same result, most likely means that 6 radiologists looked at
>the xrays. Each radiologists (independent of the others) returns a rating
>and the ratings are averaged. In order to get a dysplastic rating, at
>least 2 of the radiologists have say the hips looks dysplastic.

I just had my Bloodhound bitch xrayed, and my vet said said that they submit
the xrays to 3 radiologists, and the dog is given the worst rating of the 3
opinions.


Ok, here is another story.  A friend's Malmute was given a rating of "mildily
dysplastic" at the age of 2.  Two years later, my friend submitted new xrays,
and the rating was changed to "good".  The reason for the different rating
was that the bones and joints had not changed at all in two years.

Julie
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*  jhill@sierra.com
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From: dan@msen.com (Dan Sugalski)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: [Jumping and Agility Book]
Date: 21 Dec 1992 16:58:39 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]


A while back someone had asked for information on jumping.  I've finally
managed to find my book.  You can get just the jumping section as The
Clothier Natural Jumping Method by Suzanne Clothier.  Also available is  the
Agility Training Workbook by Linda Caplan and Suzanne Clothier.  The
latter includes the complete text of the first.  Both are plastic spiral
bound and available from:
	
	Flying Dog Press
	RD 1 Box 18 Creek Road
	Frenchtown NJ 08825

	908-996-7346

The Clothier natural jumping method includes formulas to determine
distance and stride, problem solving and a complete course on jumping.  It is
grounded in gymnastic jumping exercises often used for horses.  People
I've spoken to who have used it seem pleased with the results.   I started
Gaia the same way that I would start a horse over fences and she is a very
willing jumper.  

Karen

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From: rec1@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (robert.e.covello)
Subject: Rottweilers
Keywords: Rottweilers
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:20:20 GMT

Hi all,

Does anyone have a lot of experience with rotties.  I am having
a small problem with her exitement level.  She's 6 1/2 months old
and the one of the best dogs I've ever had.  When we come home
she is so excited she won't stop jumping for about 20 min.  You
try everything the books and people tell you (the knee, telling
her to sit before she jumps) but they don't phase her.

Any Suggestions

						Bob Covello
						bobc@ketch.hr.att.com
						ajshp!bobc



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From: laird@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Kyler Laird)
Subject: thoughts on off-leash play
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date:  1 Jan 93 14:47:51 GMT

(I'm still breathing hard from a bit of off-leash play, so I thought I'd
bring some things I've learned up for discussion.)

I don't chase Greta.  Ever.  She either comes when called, or hits the
ground when she sees me coming.  (Then we go to where I was telling her
to "come" to.  Nothing harsh, just consistent.)

When we play off-leash, I let her circle and dart at me.  I started off
by running backwards with her on-leash.  She bounds and sort of nips at
my feet.

When she's "off-leash" I leave the leash connected to her; I figure it
slows her down a bit in a sprint.  Also, we go back and forth from on-
leash to off-leash without much notice.  She doesn't seem too bothered
by it.  I think it helps to break the "here's your one chance to run
like the wind until you get caught" routine.

I start play by dropping the leash when she's sitting, then running away.
I find that running backwards and jumping to one side and spinning
around when she approaches keeps her running lots more than me, and it
keeps her running at me.

When I'm ready for her to come in, I pause, wait to see if she seems
ready to come in (no need to make it hard), then crouch and say "come".
She normally bolts at me, darts to my right and circles up on my left.
Then she gets some belly-attention.  This repeats several times.

I think the crouch and pause is important.  My previous dog, Mia, was
mature (and not trained) when we got her and loved to "fight" with me,
but whenever I'd stop and crouch, she'd come sauntering up for a head
massage.

Well, I'm relaxed from our play, and I think Greta is in bed with my
wife, so I'm missing out...

--kyler
From: dick.ecker@travel.com (Dick Ecker) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Dog stools
Date: 25 Dec 92 02:06:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Travel Online / St. Louis Online - St. Louis, MO
Reply-To: dick.ecker@travel.com (Dick Ecker) 

I have two mini dachshunds myself and they are spoiled rotten by my wife
and myself.
   My wife suggests you get Dr. Fox's book. He hads written about some
   dogs being allergic to the dyes found in some dogfoods. She indicates
   the harsh stool odor may be attributable to that allergy. Her memory
   is foggy about the discussion yet she remembers the remedy is
   returning the animal to a RICE based diet.
Now can you tell me the reason why all my dogs have carried their food
into the living room to eat?  They grab a mouthful, carry it into the
living room, eat it, and go back for more.  I was puzzled about their
rolling on the ground or even in the living room rug, but, have come to
accept the fact that the dogs smell something I cannot.
Thanks

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From: mlhb@mammoth.dr.att.com (Sky Warrior)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Collie problem
Date: 29 Dec 92 20:57:36 GMT
Reply-To: mlhb@drutx!att.com
Organization: Bell Labs, DCTT, Denver, Co.

Sounds like your Collie might have a pinched nerve or something similiar.
Ten years old is fairly old for a Collie, so she might have something related
to age causing it (maybe dysplaysia?)  I suggest you take this dog to the vet
and describe the symptoms.  I doubt it is cramps, most dogs will limp around
and won't recover as quickly if the problem is muscular. 

The Collie I grew up with had a similiar problem.  Unfortunately it was a
condition caused by severe hip dysplaysia and damaged the nerves.  I doubt
it is something that severe, but if it is a condition like that, the sooner 
the vet diagnoses it and begins treatment, the better the chances probably 
are.  Then again, maybe it is something completely different. 
 
Good luck and let us know!

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