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From: jstc_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (j. collins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Mac IIfx won't recognize 12 Meg Memory
Date: 11 Oct 92 21:10:43 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Oct11.153551.16725@doug.cae.wisc.edu> seaney@engr.wisc.edu writes:


>We have a IIfx with systems 7.0.1 and 12 Meg of memory.  The Finder indicates
>that there is 12 Meg of memory installed, but it tells us that the 'largest
>unused block' is 4meg less then what it should be.  Is there some trick to get
>ti to recognize the last 4 Meg.

First off do you have 32 bit clean turned on under the memory control
panel.  If that feature is not turned on then finder will only address
the first eight meg.  If it is turned on then it might have to with your
memory configuration.  I am assuming that you have 4 2 meg simms installed
along with 4 1 meg simms.  We have tried this configuration before on a
IIci and it will not work due to the fact that you have to have the second
set of simms the same size or a multiple of four.  Let me know what happens.

-justin m. collins <jstc_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: johnsh@aix.rpi.edu (Hugh Johnson)
Subject: Re: Can I do FTP directly???
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: comp
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 01:11:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.150015.15318@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> gv9j@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
>Are there FTP programs out there that I can use to FTP sites directly?  I'm
>hooked up via MacTCP to CornellA or VAX5 (Dec and IBM) and FTPing using my
>accounts there.  What would it take to run a FTP program on my machine directly
>through my appletalk?

If you're using MacTCP (not sure why you had the reference to AppleTalk), try
NCSA/BYU Telnet 2.5.  It has FTP capabilities, and should be available from  
Sumex and Umich and the usual Mac sites.


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From: mingo@world.std.com (Charles H Mingo)
Subject: Re: KanjiTalk...
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 21:45:33 GMT

stump1@pitt.edu (Robert E Mitchell) writes:
>
>	What version of KanjiTalk is available?  Can one just add
>normal extension (ie:Ethertalk) just by dragging into the system folder?
>I would have to assume that KanjiTalk opperated under the EXACT same
>pretenses that regular Mac system software opperates. If for some 
>reason it does not, I need to know.

	There are two kinds of KanjiTalk out there.  KanjiTalk 6.0.7 is a
version of System 6.0.7 with Kanji support.  It is a complete operating
system, and you umust use it instead of your US operating system.

	There is also KanjiTalk7 Release 7.1, which is the just-released
version of KanjiTalk for System 7.1.  It also is a complete operating 
system, which will replace your current OS.

	On Monday, Apple is scheduled to release System 7.1 in the US.  This
will include a technology called WorldScript, which allows it to support
non-roman scripts like Kanji.  However, the Kanji script will likely NOT be
distributed with System 7.1 (as it requires 24 HD diskettes), and I don't know
how you will go about obtaining it.

	Next week we will know a little more about this.

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From: lreiter@jade.tufts.edu (Lowell B. Reiter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: 32-bit addressing
Date: 15 Oct 92 04:53:05 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
Originator: lreiter@jade.tufts.edu

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: crocker@rtsg.mot.com (Ronald T. Crocker)
Subject: Weird problem with Works and Sys 7(.0.1*)
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:06:53 GMT

Problem 1:
I'm having some strange difficulties, and maybe someone out there
can help. I'm running 7.0.1 tuned-up on a IIsi (5/80) at home. When
I try to run Works, it bails out (application "unknown" with error
type 1). No INITs installed so I'm fairly sure it isn't a problem with
INITs. However, when I run on 7.0.1 tuned-up on a PB 140 (4/40), it
works just fine. This is a little confusing to me.

Problem 2:
I'm having another problem that feels like an INIT conflict. When I
choose Shut Down on the IIsi, it doesn't shut down, it "restarts"
without loading any INITs - it's like the Finder restarts (!?). When
I turn off all INITs, it works fine. Anyone seen this before? I'm
working on figuring out which INITs are the problem...

Thanks for any help on problem 1 above.
-- 
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Motorola Cellular Infrastructure Group
(708) 632-4752 [FAX: (708) 632-4430]
crocker@mot.com
From: nick+@pitt.edu (Nick C De Mello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Can I do FTP directly???
Date: 10 Oct 92 15:58:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: blue.7219
Distribution: comp
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

>
>  There is some commercial software, Versa Term Pro 3.6.3, that supplies
>FTP tools, as well as a great emulator.
>

   Oh, and there's a shareware program called Fetchit, ftp from brown
(brownvms.brown.edu - I think) that will unbinhex, and unstuff or un
compact downloads - automatically - when you ftp with it.  Reall handy.

                          --  Nick


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From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Description of Minimum System
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:44:49 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system

In article <1992Oct14.164948.29824@mail.cornell.edu>, DL10@cornell.edu (Don
Lee) wrote:
> 
> Can someone give me a detailed list of differences between the standard
> system installation for a given Mac model and the minimal version?  I
> know that most of the control panels, extensions, apple menu items,
> fonts, and sounds are not installed in the mimimal install -- what others
> resources (if any) are left out? 

One difference is that a full install for a specific CPU includes minimal
installs for all other CPUs.  A minimal install for a specific CPU means
that no other CPU can start up from that drive.

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From: nasadk@vccnw01.its.rpi.edu (Kristopher Martin Nasadowski)
Subject: Re: Memory Control will not access Virual Memory on Classic II 4/80?
Reply-To: nasadk@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 23:45:15 GMT

In article <10OCT199208394982@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu>, mwelch@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (Michael W.) writes:
|> 
|> The above says it all, "It just _wont_ work". I've
|> tried reinstalling the system software, but no go.
|> Any suggestions...?
|> 

What computer do you have? Certain Macintoshes cannot use
Virtual Memory.

Nazman
<nasadk@rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: bernardo@erevax.bitnet (Marcelino Bernardo)
Subject: Re: **HELP: HD partitions NOT visible throughout AppleTalk**
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Exxon Research & Engineering, Co.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:03:39 GMT

In article <1blthhINNt71@im4u.cs.utexas.edu>, javier@cs.utexas.edu (Javier
H. Seen) wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Mac netters:
> 
> I have a hidden HD partition that can be mounted and accessed only
> with a password.  Once this is done, it is assumed that other Macs
> connected in the network via AppleTalk can see and therefore access
> the said visible partition.  The problem is that only two of the
> six partitions are visible.  
> 
> Is there any step that I missed when I installed System 7.0.1?  
> Was I supposed to set a toggle that makes the ENTIRE PARTITION
> sharable throughout the network?  I may open and click at all
> possibilities, but I figured some Mac communication guy/gal out
> there can help me out in less time.
> 
> BTW, I used Silverlining 5.28 to create the six partitions, and
> I currently use Silver Volumes to set/reset partition lock/mount
> conditions and passwords.  The "server" is a full-fledged System
> 7 IIcx, and the other 3 machines are: another IIcx running System
> 7, and two IIx's running System 6.0.5.  Farallon connectors are
> used to link them physically.
> 

I have a IIci with a 425 MB La Cie disk with about 6 partitions and it
works. 
You have to make sure all your partitions are mounted before you start
filesharing.  Either mount all partitions automatically on start-up, or
stop and start filesharing after mounting the partitions.  You can then
enable sharing on each partition from the "Sharing..." selection in the
File menu.

Marcelino Bernardo
bernardo@erevax.bitnet
*These opinions are my own*
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jms015@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Re: PROBLEM:  Sys7 Networked printer reinitializes
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 02:00:15 GMT

In article <1687CB1B6.JBUTLER@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>, JBUTLER@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Jon Butler) writes:
> We have a LaserWrite NTII networked on Yale's Appletalk system so we can print
> to it from three Macs, all on Sys7 (two orig classics and one SE).  Since
> switching to Sys7, our printer constantly reinitializes when printing from a
> new computer.  We have had this checked by Yale's networking people;  they
> insist that someone not on sys7 is selecting our printer on the network.
> Yet no printed pages from such "foreigners" ever come out of our machine.
> In some regards, our only problem stems from the delays that such
> reinitializing causes.
>  
> Does anyone know if there is some kind of flaw in Sys7 that would make this
> happen, or if there is something that can be done to stop this constant
> reinitializing by the printer?  Many thanks for any help. --Jon Butler

Even if all of the computers are running System 7 you have to make sure that
the Printer drivers and the Laser Prep files are all the same version. When the
tuneup came out they introduced a new version of the Laserwriter, Stylerwriter,
and Chooser DA, and some other stuff.  Make sure (get info) that all printer
drivers have the same version and reinstall the latest version on all the
computers if they are inconsistent.  Also be sure that you don't have
more that one Laserwriter in your Chooser view.  This problem occured here in
the college lab and even after the same system disks and printer disks were
installed two of the computers had extra laserwriters that were driven with
System 6 drivers that would mess things up.

	Hope this helps,
	Jeff Sass
	Drake University
	JMS015@acad.drake.edu
From: wsanders@ffeine (Wiley Sanders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Question: What is System 7 equivalent of Finder LAYO resource?
Date: 7 Oct 1992 20:08:19 GMT
Organization: S.M.C.C. C.M.D. P.E.S. Support Services
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: wsanders@ffeine (Wiley Sanders)
NNTP-Posting-Host: ffeine.corp.sun.com

System 7's second most annoying feature: Not being able to
change Finder layouts like I could with the old LAYO resource.
I liked to scrunch up the leading and tabs. No, the "views"
control panel is not what I want.

Is there a System 7 equivalent? I have an old ResEdit...so
I don't have any updated templates since System 4.something....

Email to "wsanders@ffeine.corp.sun.com" and I will summarize and
repost.

-wiley
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From: erh0362@tesla.njit.edu (Elliotte Rusty Harold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Suppose Apple does charge for System 7.1...
Date: 11 Oct 92 19:08:59 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

> 
> 	What really gets me are the people who insist on using SAM because
> it's a commercially available product (and thus inherently superior to
> Disinfectant), but who are too cheap to pay for it, so they are running
> pirated copies (which, of course, means they don't get the updates).  It's
> amazing, give people a chance, and they'll find a way to be both stupid and
> dishonest at the same time!
> -- 

	I've seen that schizophrenia myself and it amused me at the time.  I'm 
beginning to change my mind though.  While I still use Disinfectant myself and 
certainly appreciate the work John Norstad has done on it over the years, the 
virtual stop in development of Disinfectant 3.0 with support for anti-viral 
Apple events may make me change my mind.  For the first time there's going to 
be a clear reason to use SAM or VIREX or Rival instead of Disinfectant.  At 
least with payware products we aren't dependent on what one person happens to 
feel like working on in his spare time.

Elliotte Rusty Harold		Department of Mathematics
elharo@m.njit.edu		New Jersey Institute of Technology
erh0362@tesla.njit.edu		Newark, NJ 07102

	
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: bruggink@neep.engr.wisc.edu (Dennis Bruggink)
Subject: RAM diagnostic software-does it exist?
Organization: 
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.system
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:16:53


I just added 4 MB to a IIcx which already had 4 MB.  I suspect the added
RAM may be bad, since I'm getting errors during ftp sessions (a character
substituted for another), and I'm convinced software and wiring are not 
possible causes.

Other than swapping simms, is there any RAM-checker program around that
can spot bad memory?  I was under the impression that these simms either
worked or they didn't.

thanks,

dennis bruggink


















Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: schwager@cs.uiuc.edu (Mike Schwager)
Subject: Re: Backup of 1GB MacHD unix tapedrive
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:48:17 GMT

resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu (Pete Resnick) writes:
>schwager@cs.uiuc.edu (Mike Schwager) writes:
>>olafn@inbit.ibt.unit.no (Olaf F. Normann) writes:

>>>I have looked on software called MacDump (which need CAP to run), but

>>BTW, if this is the same MacDump as comes from University of Utah, it does
>>*not* need CAP to run.

>I believe the Utah program is simply called "Dump". There is a CAP
>program called Macdump which also does backups. It can be made to go
>directly to tape; someone posted mods on comp.protocols.appletalk. You
>may want to post there to find out about it.

Ah, yes.  You are way correct.  Apparently, there are 2 Mac->Unix dump
programs, University of Utah Dump and MacDump that is part of CAP.
-Mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: Michael.Domoy@p3.f947.n107.z1.ieee.org (Michael Domoy)
Subject: 6.0.8 and 7.x
Organization: FidoNet node 1:107/947.3 - NJMUG BBS, Clark NJ
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:20:34 GMT

ST> Does sys7 make new desktop files on a disk that runs off of
ST> 6.0.8? I know it does with 6.0.7, but I also know that 6.0.8
ST> was designed to be somewhat compatable with 7.x

  The only way to make desktop files in system 6.0.x compatible with System
7 is using the Desktop Manager INIT, which can be found with AppleShare file
server software...

  6.0.8 differs from 6.0.7 only in that 6.0.8 has the printer drivers from
Sys.
7...


    --- Mike

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.programmer
From: ian@quark.ansto.gov.au (Ian Crakanthorp)
Subject: Printer driver for the modem/phone/serial port.
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: postcript,printer,serial,modem
Organization: Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 02:00:07 GMT

Hello,

I am looking for a printer driver that will enable me to print to a postsript
printer connected to the modem port of the MAC.  Something I could select
from the chooser.

The reason I want to print to the modem port, is to connect to our 
network connected postscript printers and be able to print straight from
Mac applications to the network printer.  I would envisage connecting
to the printer using kermit, then print from what ever application as if 
I had a printer attached to the modem/phone port.

Has anyone written such a driver?  If so where could I get it (I have ftp
access).  Or is there a better solution?  The modem port is connected to
a terminal server at 9600 baud, through which you can get a transparent
connection to the printer also connected to a terminal server.

Thanks

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: ssartori@iat.holonet.net (Steven Sartorius)
Subject: System 6.0.8L - fact or fiction?
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:04:59 GMT

In the October 5 MACWEEK, Ric Ford talks about a "stealth" release of
System 6 - 6.0.8L.  Apparently, this release will support the PB 100.
Anybody know if this release is fact or fiction and (if it does exist)
where it can be found???

Thanks
 Steve Sartorius
From: wj4@hydra.gatech.edu (Bill Joye)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Font weirdness
Keywords: font
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:38:27 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute

Has anyone seen this before?

I got a Mac II, System 7.0 with Tune Up 1.1.1. 
Fresh installation of all software.

The problem --- the default font
used in a Dialog Box is MONACO 9, not Geneva 9.

I've tried the Views CDEV. It only affects Finder windows. 
I've also Zapped the PRAM. - no effect.
I've checked for a virus - none reported.

I give!!! I'm sure I'm missing something simple.
Any ideas?

Thanks

Bill Joye
wj4@prism.gatech.edu
From: long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: SpeedyFinder7 vs. CopyDoubler
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:09:01 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1apobvINN6i@armory.centerline.com>, chapman@centerline.com (Scott Chapman, (Scott Chapman x233)) writes...
>I was playing around coparing CopyDoubler with SpeedyFinder last night,

 Does SpeedyFinder make copy operations modal, the way CopyDoubler does? I
 wonder if the release version of CopyDoubler will do this.
From: dave@prc.unisys.com (David Lee Matuszek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Finder Prefs Not Saving!!!!!
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:37:07 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.hardware, comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Paoli Research Center - Paoli, PA

In article <Bvt7Kt.B0M@world.std.com> psybeast@world.std.com (The Unknown) writes:
>
>Basically, I was changing the VIEWS (CDEV)... 
>
>When I would close the CDEV, one Finder window would show the change, and
>another would not... OK I thought to myself, FINDER is just not responding
>quickly... So I rebooted...
>
>After the reboot, the changes I had made in Views were not taking effect?
>

I have a theory that you were "rebooting" with Control-Clover-Power.
This is a no-no.  Since the IIsi uses a cache, you can lose your most
recent changes this way.

Reboot using the "Restart" command under the "Special" menu.  Only use
Control-Clover-Power as a last resort (such as when the Mac hangs).

I don't change the Views very often, so I can't say whether the "slow
response" is normal or not; it might be.  However, losing recent
changes after a Control-Clover-Power reboot is entirely normal.

  --dave

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: eepmatt@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Matthew Friedman)
Subject: Re: Problem w/system 7 suitcase
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 09:57:33 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.030049.11868@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> brady@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Sucks To Be Me) writes:
>I am having a problem with my Sys 7 suitcase. I tried to open it to see what
>kind of fonts, etc. are in there and I got a dialog saying that it was damaged.
>and it wouldn't open. I tried to use Norton But that didn't help. Is there
>any way to fix this without replacing the system file?

Well, I've seen this happen when people (myself included) installed System 7
without first completely removing the system files from 6.x. Did you try to
install 7 over 6? If so, I afraid I think the answer to your question is "No."
Not only must you replace the system file, but completely delete it from the
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: goldader@akasha.ifa.hawaii.edu (Jeff Goldader)
Subject: Re: System 6.0.8L - fact or fiction?
Organization: Institute for Astronomy, Hawaii
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:11:31 GMT

In article <73307@apple.Apple.COM> chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:
>ssartori@iat.holonet.net (Steven Sartorius) writes:
>
>>In the October 5 MACWEEK, Ric Ford talks about a "stealth" release of
>>System 6 - 6.0.8L.  [...] Anybody know if this release is fact or 
>>fiction and (if it does exist) where it can be found???
>
>No such release exists on any public server within Apple that I've found,
>including all the standard software repositories. If they released 6.0.8L,
>they did it without making it available to Apple employees, which I find
>exceptionally unlikely. 
>

The release seems to have occurred everywhere except the US.  People in
Canada and Australia have it.  Hmm, I wonder why Apple felt people here
were not worthy?

608L supports not only the 100 but the Classic II & LC II as well.
Works just fine on the 100.


Jeff Goldader			    Disclaimer:  They don't know what I say,
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jms015@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Icons not lining up (Finder Prefs??)
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 01:53:06 GMT

I have a problem with my LC 4/40 with a 105MB external drive.  The windows
icon positions don't change when I change them. In other words I open the
folder, move some icons around then close the window and open it again and find
that the changes I just made were not saved and the icons are back in their
original mess.  This only happens on the external drive as the internal updates
correctly and immediately.  I first tried Norton and Disinfectant 2.9 but they
both came up empty. I then optimized the external, rebuilt both hard drives
desktops (many times) and deleted the Finder Prefs file but the problem is
still there.  The two things I haven't tried are rebuilding the System from the
original disks (Running 7.0.1 with tuner 1.1.1 by the way) and reformatting the
drive with the software disk provided.  I also thought that maybe the driver
was not Sys 7.0.1 Compatible but Macland assured me that it was and this
problem would have happened earlier if that was the problem.

Reply to this newsgroup or personally -

	Thanks in advance,
	Jeff Sass
	Drake University
	JMS015@acad.drake.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc