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From: cjshaw@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Shaw)
Subject: A few questions
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 15:25:53 GMT



I am in the process of upgrading my struggling 8086 to a shiny new 486 and 
am considering the benefits of OS/2 2.0. I have a couple of queries which 
I wonder if anyone can answer. 
 
- Does it now support TrueType fonts in Windows 3.1 apps? 
- What multimedia support does it have? Will Windows 3.1 sound card 
  drivers work with it or does it come with its own drivers? 
- When OS/2 has been booted from a floppy, can it access and run DOS 
  software in the HPFS partition? 
 
If anyone can answer any of these questions or give me some general advice 
I would be very grateful. 
Chris. 

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mystical@nmt.edu (Gurupartap Davis)
Subject: PRODUCT.EXE error in SP
Organization: New Mexico Tech
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:51:55 GMT


I FINALLY got the SP, and I ran into that error after disk 12,
PRODUCT.EXE, or something like that.  
Did anyone ever come up with a fix for it, or do I just have to reinstall the
GA?
Thanks.
Partap
mystical@jupiter.nmt.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rlynx@netcom.com (Roger Lynx)
Subject: UltraStor14F BETA4 
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:28:44 GMT

I just uploaded to hobbes /pub/uploads the  beta for U14F. I got
it today from ULTRASTOR BBS. I talked to tech support, it should
be better than previous three betas. BTW, all three crashed my 
machine,  I have not try this one, yet! :-)
Let them know the results : 510.623.8955 tech support
			    510.623.9091 BBS

--rog

 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Problem with Diskcopy on Drive A: Object Menu
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:29:10 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.211306.5241@leland.Stanford.EDU> mrbill@leland.Stanford.EDU (William Bowen) writes:
>When I try to copy a floppy using the Copy Disk option on the Drive A:
>object in the WPS, it starts diskcopy a: b: instead of diskcopy a: a:.
>It prompts
>Insert SOURCE diskette in Drive A:
>Insert TARGET diskette in Drive B: ...
>Is there a way to change this? My a: is a 3.5" whereas b: is 5.25; I 
>would have expected OS/2 to react accordingly when I choose Copy Disk.

Working as designed, apparently.  I suggest using DISKCOPY from the
command line.  You can also create a DISKCOPY program object easily
enough.

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Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
of Chicago, 60637       | [Read the List, THEN post to ONE OS/2 newsgroup.]
From: shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu (David S. Shy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Service Pack Results/Questions
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:13:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.1dbdn6INN8n6
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandstorm.berkeley.edu

In article <1dbdaqINN8lt@agate.berkeley.edu> shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu (David S. Shy) writes:
>--Adreneline Fully On--
>
>WOW! WOW! WOW! WOW! WOW!
>
>--Off--

ooops, i forgot the question part...

1.  what patches were in the sp?  
	-i had the os2krnl patch installed, and while installing
	 the sp, it asked me whether i wanted to overwrite the kernel 
	 file because the one i had had a newer date stamp.
2.  same thing w/ the vsvga patches... are they required?

that's it.





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From: streckca@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Death of CSD
Date: 9 Nov 92 00:11:26 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire


I had dual boot OS/2 and MSDOS on my harddrive and I got the Service Pack. 
When I installed it, it went through all 12 disks and then it asked for the
first of the 2 Device Driver disks and it died shortly after I put the first
one in.  It would let me look at the log, but I couldn't reboot OS/2 or DOS 
without an external disk.  My system has no printers hooked up and a Logitech
Scanner that I don't have an OS/2 driver for yet.  I am wondering what is
up with this if anyone has an idea.  Any help would be appreciated.  Should I
try to redo the CSD?


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From: saf@netcom.com (Steve A. Feinstein)
Subject: Drive icon question.
Organization: SilverWare Consulting Services
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:28:39 GMT


Does anyone know if it's possible to create an icon that operates
functionally identical to a drive icon, but will open up to a specific
directory (not the root) when double clicked?

I find it's a pain to navigate down through the directory structure
-- 
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  360 Cowper Street |================| else, he should remember that four
Palo Alto, CA 94301 |                  fingers are pointing at himself.
     (415) 326-8224 |                                          - Louis Nizer
From: jms20@po.CWRU.Edu (John M. Sully)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 Full Screen Problem
Date: 11 Nov 1992 14:03:23 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: jms20@po.CWRU.Edu (John M. Sully)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


OK...here's an interesting problem.  

When I open an OS/2 full screen session, the monitor looses sinc, but
there's no problem opening a DOS full screen session.  

My system is:
486/33 - 8Mb
Diamond Speedstar
OS/2 2.0 + CSD

Any ideas?
John
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From: zeta%tcscs@idss.nwa.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: PLEASE RESPOND.  HELP NEEDED INSTALLING PRINTER
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 11:05:39 CST
Reply-To: srcsip!tcscs!zeta
Organization: TCS Consulting Services

I'm trying to install the 8/92 Epson Printer Drivers that I've got. I had 
these working before the system crashed and I had to reinstall.  So far
things have been going poorly at best, and I can't print.  This is very
bad for me as I have to get some things printed ASAP.

First, I'm installing from scratch a new printer object.  I am using
the templates, dragging the printer to the desktop and then typing
in its name, I click on a drive (right button) and choose INSTALL.  Then
I type D:\EPSON which is where I have the drivers on the hard drive to 
install.  Then I choose to add three printers from there and then go 
INSTALL and it creates the icon on the desktop and sets up the printer.

Then I change status (check status) and make sure it is on RELEASE.

Shut down, reboot.

I have the same old drivers as before, and I don't have the new abilities
where I can choose Compulsory, None, Conditional form feeds.

I have installed the EA using the EPSON.CMD (which ran something like
EAUTIL EPSON.EA EPSON.DRV /J /O /P) before doing any of this.

Does anyone have any ideas?  I've got to get this working again.

Thanks

Greg



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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: ignacij@meishan.animal.uiuc.edu (Ignacy Misztal)
Subject: Re: POSSIBLE CSD PROBLEM - UPDATE..
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:38:11 GMT
Keywords: CSD PROBLEM

gsk@idx.com writes:

>-- UPDATE on my CSD WARNING

>It seems that the CSD attempts to update ALL versions of OS/2 that it
>can find. I see it going after files in BOTH areas.. Since I had a BETA
>version installed on the disk, one of the early files on the CSD did not get
>updated.. I think that you must remove any BETA version from your system BEFORE
>you attempt to update your GA..

>There was a question initially asking if I wanted all services updated.. I
>guess I misunderstood the question.. The alternative was to bring up OS/1 and
>run a procedure on the CSD.. I will attempt to investigate further..

>If I find out more, I will post the information.. I never planned to install
>the CSD on the BETA.. but it was more clever than I..  OOPS....
> 
>				-- George --

>------------------------------------------------------------
>- George Kaczowka   IDX Corp  Marlboro, MA  - gsk@idx.com  -
>------------------------------------------------------------
If you had read the readme file, you would not have had any problem. 
You should start the update from within OS/2. The first screen gives
you a list of drives/directories that SP intends to update, and
you can modify that list. I did that and it worked great.
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University of Illinois		Phone: (217) 244-3164
1207 W. Gregory Dr.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: dhinds@leland.Stanford.EDU (David Hinds)
Subject: Re: OS2+VIO windows=110baud
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 23:20:26 GMT

In article <16831@umd5.umd.edu> adhir@cygnus.umd.edu (Alok Dhir) writes:
>
>What kind of a computer are you using?  A 386/25 or something?  What in the
>WORLD makes you think your 386 should be faster than a Sparc??  Geez.  I'm
>sick of all you people with 386/16s running them at 1024x768, and then crying
>about the slow speed of DOS Windows.  Have you ever tried the DOS Windows in
>Win3.1?  They are exactly as slow (or as fast, in my case).  If you want
>your scrolling to be fast, get a new graphics card or a new computer, or
>reduce your resolution!  
>
>Quit crying.  It's YOUR hardware, NOT OS/2!!

Oh, come on.  The workstation on my desk is maybe 10X the power of my
PC, to be generous.  And it scrolls windows about 200X as fast: more
than 1000 lines per second.  And that window it is scrolling has as
many pixels as my whole VGA screen.  We don't contest the fact that PC
display adapters really suck.  Even the best commodity cards (8514,
S3, whatever) are kludges that still basically suck.  Still, blaming
the problem on the hardware is a lame excuse, because this problem has
been SOLVED BEFORE.  Desqview-386 did lazy screen updates to get
better video performance; in fact, my text windows, through Desqview's
virtualized display drivers, scrolled much faster than full-screen DOS
without the virtualization layer.  Of course, these were text-mode
windows, and I don't expect the same when comparing bit-mapped windows
with full-screen text.  But this does prove the method works without
much overhead.

If OS/2 can't do this, it is because IBM has decided that optimizing
performance on systems with low-end adapters is not a high priority.
Not because it is a difficult problem.  This seems strange to me, when
they have gone to considerable trouble to squeeze performance out of
systems with inadequate memory.  Memory is a lot cheaper than new
coprocessed video cards and new motherboards.  

        - David Hinds
          dhinds@allegro.stanford.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: stimpy@nmt.edu (John Reynolds)
Subject: Re: PLEASE SOMEBODY ANSWER THIS!!! (more info needed)
Organization: New Mexico Tech
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 17:22:12 GMT


>This is the third timw recently I am asking a question on this
>newsgroup, and hopefully I won't be ignored a third time....
>
>How do I recreate the extended attribute files on my FAT drive?
>I have Boot Managar, DOS c: and OS2 HPFS D:.  I can view D: via
>icons but c: brings up a window for a split second and then
>disappears.  Could somebody please tell me how to recreate thos "ea ..."
>and "wp.." files.  Perhaps this question should be made a faq (it's not there
>now).
>

Well, I think we need more information to work with. What happened
to GA to make it screw up like that? Where are you viewing these 'things'
from? The drives icon, or is your entire desktop hosed?

Like to help if I know how, but I'm not quite sure what's going on here...

-Jr



-- 
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From: x90wardell@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Neat Utils for OS/2
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:12:20 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University


	Here are some neat things I would love to see someone make
up for OS/2 or if there is such a thing perhaps someone could point
it out to me:

	A program that will make files with certain exensions have
a certain icon.
	For example, all .wp5 icons wuld have a word perfect icon
when I opened their folder.

	Another util that would be nice would be one to change the
default OS/2 logo screen that pops up every time you turn on the
machine.

	Any ideas?

						-Brad
From: price@helios.unl.edu (Chad  Price)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Omaha NE OS/2 Users Group
Date: 12 Nov 1992 18:19:52 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
NNTP-Posting-Host: helios.unl.edu

November 20, 1992 8am - 10am
IBM Solution Center
450 Regency Parkway
Omaha, NE 68114 (USA)

Topics:
	Client/Server, Netware Requestor
	Migrating to Lanserver 2.0
	Lan Management
Prizes and free software

Call (402) 399-4087 Finis Cook with questions
Call (800) 967-7789 for reservations.

Its not clear to me why you need reservations for a users group, but at least
we are getting some movement in IBM away from the major metropolitan 
areas now.

Since I am NOT an IBM employee, the above is all I know. Please call
IBM for further information.


--
chad
price@helios.unl.edu
cprice@molecular.unmc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Distribution: jadpc2
Date: Sun,  8 Nov 92 00:00:02 -0800
From: Boulton_Fernando@f514.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: Re: DISKCACHE and FAT
Comment-To: Jeffrey_Michael_Gerber@f514.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Reply-To: Boulton_Fernando@f514.n202.z1.fidonet.org
X-FSC-PATH: 202/514

 > Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.os2.misc: 7-Nov-92 Re: DISKCACHE and
FAT 
 > by Timothy F. Sipples@ellis  
 > > It should read: 
 > >   
 > > DISKCACHE=64,LW,AC:CD 
 >  
 > Tried it, doesn't work.  Same error. 
  
I guess your the line on your Config.sys should be similar to the one 

I have: 
 
DISKCACHE=512,LW,64,AC:C 
 
In my case the FAT drive is C,  the Diskcache size is 512 with  
Lazywrite ON and a threshold value of 64.  In the help screen it says 

that the threshold value defaults to 4, but somehow or the other OS/2 

gives an error message when the number is ignored.  The threshold  
value can be anywhere from 4 to 128.  The AC:C is the Auto Check  
feature at boot time. 
 
Hope that helps. 
 
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From: hacker@cco.caltech.edu (Jonathan Bruce Hacker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: UPCOMING POSTS TO COMP.BINARIES.OS2 (November 8 - November 14)
Date: 10 Nov 1992 01:40:14 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

rolfe@w3vh.UUCP (Rolfe Tessem) writes:

>After applying the three-diskette CSD for the TCP/IP base package
>recently posted to ftp-os2.nmsu.edu, I get a syslevel of UB02252
>for the base package.  Does the quoted post above mean that there
>is another, more recent CSD? If so, is it already on hobbes?

Yes, 2252 is out of date.

Last time I looked on ftp-os2.nmsu.edu, the 2274 CSD was in 
/pub/uploads/sharebbs

basecsd1.zip
basecsd2.zip
basecsd3.zip

They may have been moved since then, that was last week.


-- 
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Caltech, Pasadena CA
hacker@tumbler-ridge.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: lkan@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Linus Kan)
Subject: Are video drivers different for interlaced and noninterlaced monitors? 
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 10:16:52 GMT

Hi there:

Specifically the ET4000 drivers that came with the Service Pack;
are they written for interlaced monitors only--my monitor is
non-interlaced.

Thanks in advance.

:) lkan@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: nbl@solomon.technet.sg (Ng Beng Lim)
Subject: SAS/Graph problems on OS/2 Service Pack
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 05:10:34 GMT

[ Article crossposted from bit.listserv.sas-l ]
[ Author was  ]
[ Posted on Fri, 6 Nov 1992 05:54:20 GMT ]


IBM just came out with the Service Pack for the OS/2 that
incorporates the 32-bit graphics engine.  I am having problem
running SAS/graph on this new service level of OS/2.  When using the VGA
PM Device driver, it complains about 
 "Device does not support multiple graph windows or not enough memory."

It works fine on OS/2 sets without the service pack installed.

Anyone knows about a way around this?

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: crchen@picasso (Birdy Array (root))
Subject: Install OS/2 from driver B
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:27:31 GMT

 I want to install OS/2 from driver B. It's said on FAQ that I can get a
 free software to do it. Where is it???

 Thanks for your help...


From: Zak.Smith%f736.n154.z1@xanadu.mil.wi.us (Zak Smith)
Sender: FredGate@xanadu.mil.wi.us
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Advice on LANs
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:29:00 -0600

[sorry if you have seen this already, I was having trouble with outgoing
 news for a  while]

 Hi..    I am hoping that someone can shed some light on what otions I have, 
here is my situation:

  I have a 386sx that is (and will be) running a dos e-mail system. 
(fredmail, d'bridge, searchlight bbs, squish, etc..) I wish is to be a 
the file/disk server.   I have a 486 [running os/2, of course!] that I want 
to be able to access the 386 from, via a lan.

  I would like to be able to access the 386 from any session on the 486, as 
normal drive letters (they were before setup as i, j and k).  I would like 
to run this over cheap ethernet or arcnet cards..

 Can anyone point out that I can do to get this going, or what my options 
are?  I don't know what is available for os2, or this combination.

thanks,
    Zak Smith
    zak.smith@xanadu.mil.wi.us
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Why TE/2 over Softerem (was: Re: Try this (I *LOVE* OS/2 2.x) ...
From: t9114145@phillip.edu.au
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:28:06 EST
 <Bx3s0p.4Dt@news.iastate.edu> <1992Nov3.191511.13348@cbnews.cb.att.com> <Bx5voL.IxF@cs.uiuc.edu>
Organization: RMIT (Bundoora Campus)

In article <Bx5voL.IxF@cs.uiuc.edu>, joshi@cs.uiuc.edu (Anil Joshi) writes:
> I am just wondering why everybody is using when Softterm comes with OS/2? 
> Should I try TE/2? I will have to download it using softterm ofcourse.

Compared to TE/2, Softerm is rubbish. Just forget it! The only time I used
Softerm was to download something else. Even then I found that Softerm's 
protocols are badly written and the transfer took a few tries before success.
> 
> Thanks
> Anil


Adam Eberbach    Computer Science student, RMIT.   t9114145@phillip.edu.au
               "We don' need no stinkin' signatures!"
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: todd@kastle.com (Todd A. Scalzott)
Subject: Re: Ctl-alt-del bug?  Was: My trip report
Reply-To: todd@kastle.com
Organization: Kastle Development Associates, Arlington, VA, USA
	<1djmkcINNjd3@travis.csd.harris.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 07:57:16 GMT

In article <1djmkcINNjd3@travis.csd.harris.com> kbeal@rcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com (Ken Beal) writes:

>   Path: friend!uunet!europa.asd.contel.com!gatech!uflorida!travis.csd.harris.com!rcx1!kbeal
>   From: kbeal@rcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com (Ken Beal)
>   Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
>   Date: 8 Nov 92 18:34:52 GMT
>   References: <1992Oct26.030423.5779@fcom.cc.utah.edu> <1992Oct26.191932.1553@bilver.uucp>
>   Organization: Harris CSD, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
>   NNTP-Posting-Host: rcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com
>
>   In article <1992Oct26.191932.1553@bilver.uucp> dandrews@bilver.uucp (Dave Andrews) writes:
>   >In article <1992Oct26.030423.5779@fcom.cc.utah.edu> brian@jaguar.cs.utah.edu (Brian Sturgill) writes:
>   >>Word from James Taylor, Team Leader for WPS in Boca Raton.
>   >>Under the GA release do _NOT_ use Ctrl-Alt-Delete to restart the
>   >>machine, things can screw up.  This should be fixed in the
>   >>Service Pack.
>   >>
>   >
>   >Brian, what does he mean when he says "things can screw up"?
>   >
>       When I have done this, I ended up losing any changes I made to
>   icons, folders, etc. -- things on the Desktop.  Nothing *else* bad happened,
>   but that was bad enough (i.e. no files were corrupted, just the changes
>   didn't get saved).

I'm not positive of this, but I believe it to be because WPS does not 
save those changes until the folder is closed.  Shutdown closes all the
folders when it shuts down WPS, while the three finger salute seems to
only flush the lazy-write caches.  Whenever I make icon/folder changes, I
close and re-open the folder.

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                                                      ...!uunet!friend!todd