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From: rownd@kelp.micro.umn.edu (Brooks Kerry Rownd)
Subject: Re: Big 8 Bowl paranoia
Organization: University of Minnesota CIS
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:54:00 GMT

In article <wilbanks.722463383@spot.Colorado.EDU> wilbanks@spot.Colorado.EDU (Wendell Gee) writes:
>This is getting really weird.
>All I can hope is that Gibbs and Collins play the "game to save the coach's 
>job", that is, beat the living daylights out of Nebraska. And Colorado prove 
>they belong against Syracuse/ND. 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^?????????????????????????????????????????
face it, Colorado STINKS this year.  A great injustice was done when Minn. 
missed that feild goal and Colorado escaped the dome with a win.  
Syracuse and ND and NCSU are far beyond Colorado's level this year
and the buffs would suffer worse than they did against NU.  Colorado
is easily the most overrated team in college football right now, and
if they don't get lucky and face a weak big-10 team in a bowl, the 
party'll be over.  Unfortunately, this will probably happen.
Be honest with yourselves and don't flame me, guys - I'm hoping against
all odds for a 3-0 Big8 bowl sweep to salvage a disappointing, but 
interesting year.  Go Big Red! Go Big8!

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From: gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith)
Subject: Re: AGGIES SUCK!!!
Keywords: ghoti hunting
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:03:47 GMT

>>I recently found this definition of the word Aggie in Webster's dictionary:
>>
>>Aggie - n. 1. an asshole whose size is so extraordinary that the Eiffel tower
>>       fits inside with only moderate lubrication. 2. a large conglomeration
>>       of hicks into what has been called a "school". adj. 3 the USUALLY
>>       undesirable condition of a part of the body, especially genitalia.
>>       usage: Your penis is Aggie.
>>Kevin
>
>(I was going to post something, but I fell down laughing, and typing
>is too hard right now!!!!)
>
>-Chris

Well Chris, if you'd quit playing with your Aggie, typing wouldn't be so
difficult.

- goober (children, children, children) smith


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From: gcm@fns-nc1.fns.com (Grover McCoury)
Subject: Re: Small college in Penn
Organization: Fujitsu Network Switching
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 13:32:53 GMT

In article <4157@ncrsoph.Sophia.NCR.COM> sstasuke@ncrsoph.Sophia.NCR.COM (Steve Stasukewicz) writes:
>A while back somebody posted an artcile about a college named Slippery
>Rock.  Does anyone know if there is a team in the same conference that
>starts with the letters "Shippen...." Can't remember the exact name. 
>It's a small college in Pennsylvania.  Also, does anyone have the 
>standings for that conference that they could post or email to me?

->  Shippensburg

Just $.02 worth from a transplanted Pennsylvanian...

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From: mminihan@inetg1.ARCO.COM (Mike Minihan)
Subject: Re: Texas 35 SMU 14
Organization: ARCO Oil and Gas Company
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:11:28 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.230003.7644@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>,
crobbins@lonestar.utsa.edu (Chris S. Robbins) writes:
> Texas 35 SMU 21
> Gardere 24-31 3tds _0_ int's
> Texas defense limits Mustang running attack to only 23yds.
> Baylor loses to Rice 34-31 on last minute FG.  The mood in Waco
> shouldn't
> be too good, maybe we can get in there, win, and GET OUT!
> We control our own destiny- 2 wins= Cotton Bowl
>                             1 win= Bowl game
> 
> I'd rather have the 2 and take on the Irish New Year's Day!!!
> 
> Hook 'em Horns!!!
> 
> -chris
> 

So.

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From: Patrick E Fleming <pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: MAC preview for November 21, 1992
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:43:09 GMT

MAC Conference Standings
------------------------
after November 14, 1992

                   Conference             Overall
Team               W   L   T    pct.      W   L   T    pct.
-----------------------------------------------------------
xBowling Green     8   0   0   1.000      9   2   0    .818
W. Michigan        6   3   0    .667      7   3   1    .682
Toledo             5   3   0    .625      7   3   0    .700
Akron              5   3   0    .625      6   3   1    .650
Miami              5   3   0    .625      6   4   1    .591
Ball State         5   4   0    .556      5   6   0    .455
C. Michigan        4   5   0    .444      5   6   0    .455
Kent               2   7   0    .222      2   9   0    .182
E. Michigan        1   7   0    .125      1  10   0    .091
Ohio               1   7   0    .125      1  10   0    .091

x - clinched conference championship

Games for November 21, 1992
---------------------------
Toledo @ Northern Illinios: This should be a tough game for both teams ending
                            their season.  Very little on the line other than
pride.  My pick, Toledo by 2.

Akron @ Cincinnati: The Zips will end their seaon against the Bearcats in
                    their second non-league game against an Ohio team.  The
bearcats are vastly improved over last year's team, but should still prove no
match for Akron.  My pick, Akron by 2.

- Patrick E. Fleming ----------------------------------------------------------
- Department of Chemistry ----------- Sometimes I see me as an old manatee ----
- Ohio Wesleyan University ---------- Heading south as the waters grow colder -
- pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu ------------------------------------------
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From: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett)
Subject: Re: FSU 1993 Schedule
Reply-To: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett)
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:08:42 GMT

News-Software: NN 6.4.16

In <1992Nov17.233618.14752@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming) writes:

| Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett writes:
| 
| >I just know the leprechauns will just love the FSU war-chant, as it gets
| >stuck in your head for two weeks..
| 
| You're joking, right?  Have you ever been to a game involving Southern Cal?

No I am not joking.  Miami's Dennis Erickson said it took days out of his
life before that war-chant stop running through his head from the 1991
FSU-Miami game at Talahassee.

That FSU war-chant gives a very hostile feeling to the game.  Also, if you
know that flaming spear in the ground means the whole Seminole Nation is
at war, it adds feeling.   FSU has some very good game Traditions.  I wish
that Miami had a few more game traditions to go with the smoke.

No I haven't seen a USC game in person.  Yes, they play the fight music
over and over.  But, it's not like 50,000 people are ready to come out of
their seats and scalp you.  Talahassee is not a joy to play a road game at. 

From: gregb@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Greg Begay)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:03:22 GMT
Subject: Re: Oklahoma clinches Orange Bowl
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college


>Ok, now that I have your attention.  I tried this before but never got the
>answer I wanted.  On Saturday, OU and OSU tied.  IF(repeat for the brain dead
>IF IF IF IF) OU had beaten OSU(repeat OSU OSU, not CU), and
>went on to beat Nebraska, they would be 5-1-1 as would be CU.  Who would go
>to the Orange Bowl.  The dilemma is, that if OU would go rather than CU (I
>don't know, you tell me), then Gibbs costs his team a shot at the Orange
>Bowl by accepting the tie (if I recall, they kicked a short FG to tie at the
>end, I could be hosed in the head).  But he may be assuming that NU has
>beaten ISU, or does he know of the upset first, which might change his 
>decision.  Go for the win, beat highly ranked NU to finish 8-2-1. With the
>final win over NU and a several year hiatus from Miami, get the OB bid. Or
>MUST the OB take 9-1-1 CU, despite the in conference tie.  If so, avoid the
>loss to get a minor bowl bid.

>Any comments on this scenario?

Ok, I'll bite.  

I believe that in the event of a tie in the Big 8, the Orange Bowl 
then *choses* which of the co-champs it wants in the Orange Bowl.
This is almost certainly the higher ranked team, which in your
scenerio, is CU.  Note that OU already had 3 losses (texas,USC,KU)
going into the OkSU game and could finish at best (before OkSU)
7-3-1.

>Murph
>----------

GregB

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From: chyang@malay.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang)
Subject: Re: WAR OVER!!!! MIAMI WINS !!!!!!
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 12:49:32 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: chyang@malay.engin.umich.edu


In article <FGF=zJ#@engin.umich.edu>, hpang@engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang) writes:
> In article <of1KCji00WBOE32ZxM@andrew.cmu.edu> William Karamo Motley <wm1o+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> >
> >top five in Architecture, top 20 in Industrial Administration.  We're
> >also among the elite in Drama.  Andy Warhol, Blair Underwood, Steve
> >Bochco(Producer of Hill Street Blues, Doogie Howser, LA Law, etc.),
> >Judith Light, Ted Danson, all graduated from here.  And yet, you don't
> >.....
> >
> >Will
> > 
> 
> I hate to say this, but I have tremedous respect to CMU and hence please quote
> some bigger names next time.  The shows you've mentioned are just for yuppies.
> Nothing big, no one knows outside US, and no critical acclaims from the
> serious, non-yuppie minded.
> 
> For example, I am from U. of Michigan.  I'd quote these Michigan alumnis:
> 
> James Earl Jones - you know who he is, and the rest of the world also knows
> Samual Ting - Nobel prize winner in Physics, currently holding a endowed 
>               professorship at MIT and is director of European Super Particle
>               Collider project at Switzerland, who confessed that he hasn't
>               missed one single Michigan home game when he was a student there
>               (and man he still go to a Michigan home game once in a while)
> Jessye Norman - one of the most sough-after opera stars of our generation,
>                 won critical acclaims world-wide, everyhwre she goes the 
>                 house is sold-out
> Gerald Ford - not the one who designed the Ford T-bird!              
> 
> No advertising here.  Just wish you quote bigger names next time.  (Oh man, I
> am a CS major, and going to CMU is always a CS major's dream!)
> 
> - Louis
> 
> 
	Let me add to the list:

	Author Miller:  One of the most celerbrated playwright.

	Clarence Darryl:  If you know about the Monkey Trial in the 
	   	         Mid-1800.  If it wasn't for him, we'll be
			 taught creationism in our science classes.
	
	Oh.. and the guy who directed the "Big Chill" and "Grand Canyon".

	And there are a host of others whom I can't remember now.  

	Anyway, I was just bored so I decided to add my $0.02 worth.

- Chung Yang
	

>  >
From: sjc@cs.purdue.edu (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: OSU beats Michigan: 13-13
Date: 22 Nov 1992 12:51:50 -0500
Organization: Department of Computer Sciences, Purdue University
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NNTP-Posting-Host: bredbeddle.cs.purdue.edu
In-reply-to: sjc@cs.purdue.edu's message of 22 Nov 1992 12:41:15 -0500

}} In article <1eognrINN4s0@bredbeddle.cs.purdue.edu> sjc@cs.purdue.edu (Steve Chapin) writes:
}} 
}} I'm a little more upset at the punt coverage in the last minute.  The
}} only chance they had was for a muffed punt.  The Michigan receiver
}} obliged (Alexander?), but two or three Buckeyes were busy converging
}} on him, and were not ready to recover the muff.  Tovar almost managed,
}} but didn't quite.  Oh, so close...

I should also have pointed out that he had signalled a fair catch, so
there was no point in the Buckeyes charging down on him.  A mental
error, that cost the Bucks a victory.

sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:
             Hear, hear! Who's here who knows whose booze this is?

             If I don't want it in my back yard, I don't want it.
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From: 5rtrtrt@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (richard.e.stealey)
Subject: Re: Rutgers in a bowl ?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:19:16 GMT

> 

Students at Rutgers are talking about a possible bid by the Liberty
bowl, in adddition to the Independence bowl.  
Hey, Shreveport La (Independence bowl) is not my idea of a great place
to spend the post Christmas holidays!
Anyone know anything about the Liberty bowl?  Where is it?  What are
the team matchups relating to it?

Rick


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From: nichols@spss.com (David Nichols)
Subject: Re: PAC-10 vs. Big-10 (was Re: Mediocracy vs Money)
Organization: SPSS Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:20:35 GMT

>In article <BILLMS.92Nov19185113@gip.eecs.umich.edu> billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith) writes:
>>
>>What teams has WSU lost to, and which ones has it beaten?  Iowa has lost to
>>several ranked teams, and looked pretty darn good through the year.  They
>>gave Miami a game, though not a real scare.

Iowa's defense did an okay job against Miami, but they looked pathetic on
offense (due no doubt in part to Miami's defense). Iowa has no business
being in a bowl on the basis of their performance on the field. It is true
that they've played a good schedule, but they haven't beaten anyone that's
had a good year (Illinois has the best record at 5-3-1 in games other than
against Iowa of any team they've beaten; there's Indiana at 5-4, and a
bunch of lousy Big 10 teams). The good teams Iowa has played have beaten
them like a drum, by an average of over 18 points a game. They haven't even
come close to beating any really good teams.

Michigan State and Illinois are other teams in the bowl hunt who don't
belong there, although Illinois did at least beat Ohio State and tie
Michigan. Michigan State has no business even thinking about bowls; they've
beaten Indiana, Minnesota (by 5), Northwestern (by 1), Wisconsin and Purdue.
They lost to Central Michigan (at home), were destroyed by Notre Dame
(the 21 point final margin made it look a lot closer than it really was;
Notre Dame scored on something like their first five or six possessions),
shut out by Boston College, and crushed by Michigan. Bowl caliber? Please.

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From: apalon@stein.u.washington.edu (Andrew Alleman)
Subject: Home field advantage?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 00:56:34 GMT

Washington beats Stanford 41-7.  Stanford beats Washington State 40-3.
Washington State beats Washington 42-15.  All games were won by the home
team.  This is either a either a good example of home field advantage or
a good case against transitivity.  Or neither :-).

(those scores may not be correct, but they're in the ballpark)

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From: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Subject: NCSU to Orange Bowl!!!!!!!
Originator: delarocq@c00059-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:22:52 GMT




  (If several things go right, of course!! :) )

   if Alabama loses to Florida!!
   That's what I wanted to see, anyway!! :) :)
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From: rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann)
Subject: Re: FSU 1993 Schedule
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:39:35 GMT

In article <Bxx3EJ.Jyz@encore.com> jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Sugar Cane" Fawcett) writes:
> 
> 
> That FSU war-chant gives a very hostile feeling to the game.  Also, if you
> know that flaming spear in the ground means the whole Seminole Nation is
> at war, it adds feeling.   
> 

Sounds cool, but picture this:

An imposing Knight in Shining Armor with scarlet plumage streaming
from his helmet and riding on a grey and white-speckled steed
charges onto the playing field with his lance poised.  As he reaches
midfield he impales the oppositions' mascot (such as a panther,
an Ibis, a Hokie, an eagle, mountaineer, owl or an orange) while the
crowd screams over and over "Yes your majesty, yes your majesty."

It might need some fine-tuning bet I think it's a good start.



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From: schmke@cco.caltech.edu (Kevin Todd Schmidt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Schmidt Computer Rankings through 17-Nov
Date: 17 Nov 1992 17:06:23 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu

Here are my computers rankings through 17-Nov-92.

Dallas remains #1 even with their loss due to Philadelphia's loss and
San Francisco's narrow win.

My rankings went 9-5 against the spread this week but only 5-9 in
picking winners.

I welcome comments and suggestions.

Kevin

Rank Team                      Points  Record Sch. Str.   Last Week   Change
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1    Dallas                    79.823   8-2-0  71.748  (  1,  81.508)  +0
2    Philadelphia              79.331   6-4-0  73.112  (  2,  81.044)  +0
3    San_Francisco             79.252   8-2-0  70.102  (  3,  79.252)  +0
4    New_Orleans               76.093   7-3-0  70.874  (  6,  75.802)  +2
5    Minnesota                 76.008   7-3-0  68.408  (  4,  76.847)  -1
6    Pittsburgh                75.994   7-3-0  70.724  (  5,  76.304)  -1
7    Kansas_City               75.876   6-4-0  72.288  (  8,  74.630)  +1
8    Houston                   75.751   6-4-0  71.151  (  7,  75.183)  -1
9    Buffalo                   74.064   8-2-0  69.056  ( 11,  73.040)  +2
10   NY_Giants                 72.428   5-5-0  70.724  ( 10,  73.721)  +0
11   Washington                72.362   6-4-0  71.929  (  9,  74.218)  -2
12   Miami                     72.158   7-3-0  66.651  ( 12,  72.416)  +0
13   Denver                    72.012   7-3-0  71.984  ( 14,  70.599)  +1
14   LA_Rams                   71.865   4-6-0  71.783  ( 15,  70.528)  +1
15   Phoenix                   70.432   3-7-0  74.235  ( 13,  71.316)  -2
16   San_Diego                 69.877   5-5-0  70.045  ( 16,  69.344)  +0
17   LA_Raiders                68.942   4-6-0  70.725  ( 18,  68.556)  +1
18   Cleveland                 68.701   5-5-0  69.034  ( 19,  68.328)  +1
19   Chicago                   68.321   4-6-0  69.833  ( 17,  69.063)  -2
20   Detroit                   68.003   2-8-0  72.074  ( 20,  68.080)  +0
21   Cincinnati                67.195   4-6-0  70.040  ( 21,  67.165)  +0
22   NY_Jets                   66.694   3-7-0  70.209  ( 22,  66.254)  +0
23   Atlanta                   66.465   4-6-0  72.176  ( 23,  66.165)  +0
24   Tampa_Bay                 65.400   4-6-0  69.918  ( 24,  65.585)  +0
25   Green_Bay                 65.328   4-6-0  70.785  ( 25,  64.227)  +0
26   Indianapolis              62.663   4-6-0  69.510  ( 26,  63.439)  +0
27   New_England               60.419   1-9-0  70.446  ( 28,  59.327)  +1
28   Seattle                   58.908   1-9-0  70.802  ( 27,  59.502)  -1
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From: jbhuber@iastate.edu (Joseph B Huber)
Subject: Re: Holiday Bowl (Re: HAWKEYE BOWL CHANCES)
Keywords: travesty
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:26:27 GMT

In article <Bxx98v.9BE@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy
Peppler) writes:
>In article <timlin.722038242@spot.Colorado.EDU> timlin@spot.Colorado.EDU
>(Michael Timlin) writes:
>>Wouldn't a UI-MSU tie make both teams ineligible for the bowls?  Neither
>>would have 6 wins, and an Iowa loss would keep them out too.  I would
>>think that the big10? would keep quiet and let the Holiday go elsewhere
>>rather than cancel the game :).
>
>	Again, I'm not sure that has been addressed.  Illinois would be
>	5-4-2 with a tie, MSU 5-5-1.
>       I have a feeling the Holiday folks would go elsewhere then,
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>       or maybe take Wisconsin, at 6-5, if
>	the Buckys beat Northwestern.  I really can't say for sure, though...

I think Micheal is suggesting that the Holiday Bowl would have to go elsewhere
out of necessity, not out of choice. The NCAA policy (adopted last year)
requiring a team to have 6 division 1A wins in order to be eligible for a
post-season bowl. If this rule is still in effect and UI-MSU tie, The Holiday
bowl cannot take either team. Perhaps I don't understand the rule
correctly....



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Iowa State University        |   but nothing ever is."
From: dianem@boi.hp.com (Diane Mathews)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Huskers lose. Mega-Major Bummer!!
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:10:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara Division

ouch.

Good playing, ISU!

On to the OU game.
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