From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado)
Subject: Re: FSU 1993 Schedule
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 20:46:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.161720.3859@lgc.com> mbs@zycor.lgc.com (Matt Shostak) writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.161628.1511@mlb.semi.harris.com> dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com writes:
>>
>>>I believe your correct; however, I do not have the official schedule.  From 
>>>what I understand, the Notre Dame games will be at South Bend and at a neutral
>>>site, most likely Jacksonville.  Notre Dame refused to play us in Tallahassee.
>>>They claim D.C. stadium is too small.  Granted it will only seat 62000+ fans,
>>>but I think it would be nice to see Notre Dame come off their high chair and
>>>play us in our backyard.  Side note:  it was great to see Notre Dame go for 
>>>the win instead of the tie last week unlike Michigan.  Does anybody
>>>know if we get to beat up on Michigan in Tallahassee?
>>
>>
>>Thanks for the info Rick.  I can't really buy into Notre Dame's argument that
>>Doak Campbell is too small, considering that it will hold 72,000+ with the new
>>seats being currently installed.  I think the capacity is at this point up to
>>about 67,000 and as a result a new record crowd is expected for the UF game.
>>Now I know good and well that Notre Dame had a home and home series with Air
>>Force and I doubt their stadium holds as many as FSU's.  I am sure that Notre
>>Dame has played on other occasions in stadiums holding less than 72,000.  If
>>they came to Tallahassee, Doak Campbell would be packed and national TV would
>>be there so money couldn't be cited as a factor.  IMO it is a lack of respect
>>for FSU on ND's part.  Same problem with Michigan.  We played at least 2 times
>>up there, played them close (but lost) in 1986 and spanked them last year, but
>>they refuse to come down to Tallahassee.  At least Michigan State had the guts
>>to come down after we pasted them up there, although they said they'd never
>>come again.  Something about the heat and humidity being too hard on the northern
>>boys.  Okay, I'm rambling.  I can see a slight justification in Michigan, in
>>that they can sell 30,000 more tickets for their stadium than FSU can, at what,
>>$25 a pop, for an extra $750,000?  But Notre Dame I don't know.  Anybody know
>>how many seats they have in South Bend?
>>
>>D. Head
>>FSU '91
>
>Notre Dame stadium holds 59,075.  I think ND must not have wanted to play
>in FSU's backyard.  ND usually gets a very ugly reception down south, which
>has soured many ND alums from ever wanting to play there again.  (Though,
>of course, they've never played at FSU).  I hope this turns into a good
>series, meaning that there won't be bad blood like ND has with another
>Florida school.  Most ND fans like and respect FSU (though I'm sure they
>wish FSU would find Miami's number someday), and I hope ND does
>go to FSU's home stadium to play someday.
>

I believe ND fans, boosters, etc. think that FSU fans are somehow similar to
Miami fans. They are mistaken. FSU has had a long standing reputation for 
being one of the most hospitable stadiums in the country. The people here
used to actually clap when the opposing teams entered the stadium (excluding
Miami and Florida, of course). It has only been in the recent years (with the
frustration of having Miami beat us every year) that some of the fans have
started to boo the opposition. And even those people are generally just the
students, the alums still clap. If you ask me, I don't think that our AD, Bob
Goin, should have agreed to the shitty deal with ND, instead demanding a 
strict home and home series. However, now that the deal is done we are stuck
with it. I think that ND _will_ get a bad reception at the neutral site, 
simply because they were too chicken to come to Tallahassee. Frankly, they 
deserve that kind of reception, anyone who is that high on themselves should
be treated with the utmost disrespect.

>-- 
>Matthew B. Shostak              Landmark/Zycor
>mbs@zycor.lgc.com               (512) 292-2357
>"Gentlemen! You can't fight in here! This is the war room!"

Kevin

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