From: cs331333@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs331333)
Subject: Demacs: Ftp site for some help, questions for experienced Demacs users
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 12:04:31 GMT


To all those looking for Demacs information

ftp ftp.math.ksu.edu

cd /pub/pc/demacs/misc
   contains a ziped general info on emacs that is very instructive
   other stuff of interest once you install demacs
also /pub/pc/demacs
   contains an installation file that you might find useful.

Note: I pulled this out of a file from before I posted of my own problem
      with Demacs (subj: demacs crashes everytime i try to install it)

Following is a summary of the answers to my original post.  It is somewhat
incomplete, because I accidently erased the answers (sigh...) I'm sorry
for not giving credit to whoever deserves it.  If anyone reading this
fits that catagory, e-mail me, and I'll include the info in further posts.

I was told to get a current copy of of lha or lhz or whatever it was
and not use un-zip as one solution.  Note: I have yet to see complete
information/instructions for installing a zip'ed version of Demacs.
If anyone has this info, I would love to get a copy of it.

I was told to use the LaTeX instructions.  I don't remember seeing these,
nor do I know exactly how to view them.  I have access to normal UNIX
GNU Emacs, and macs, so if someone could tell me how to print them out on
a laser printer, or line printer, I would appreciate it.

I was also told to be to be more specific in my posts, and include my
autoexec.bat file and config.sys file.  I thought that that would be a
waste of bandwidth but the person said they doubted if they could help 
me so I should post.  If you are in the same boat here, my own personal
advice would be to NOT post you autoexec and config files to this group.
--

After carefully reviewing my situation, I think it would be appropriate
and not waste more bandwidth than has already been wasted.

A) If you currently run Demacs with no problems, and can answer any of
   my above questions, ie- zip instructions, instructions for printing
   the LaTex instructions, then please e-mail the answer to me.  I will
   post a summary.

B) If you currently run Demacs with no problem, and are somewhat
   knowledgable, and feel very helpful, I could use..
   1) a copy of a working autoexec.bat file that works under Dos5.0, and
      does not contain anything from other vendors (ie Qemm, wierd
      caches, wierd ramdisks, wierd anything)
   2) a copy of a working config.sys file meeting the 1's specification.
   3) the list of files/subdirectories after installation
   4) any other useful information that you think could be useful

Once I get Demacs to install properly, I will copy down the specific
instructions and install it again to make sure the instructions are
complete.  I can then post the instructions here and knowedgable people
can verify their correctness for various platforms, flame away, etc..

Hopefully we can arrive at a complete set of instructions, using ziped
files that even the most computer-illiterate of people can use to 
install Demacs successfully.  Everyone else at our site has given up on
trying to install Demacs and uses SLOW UNIX emacs/terminals.

Thank you for any help in advance.

Note: I asked GNU at MIT for advice, and they mailed me a GNU manifesto
      that I already have 10 copies of.  I even mentioned that I had
      bought the GNU Emacs Manual.  The manifesto was word-for-word out
      of the book.. (sigh..)

Note2: I figure the creators of Demacs in Japan are busy enough so I
       haven't asked them for any advice.  If other people on this
       group have emailed them, it would be nice if you posted, or e-mailed
       me any semi-official info on new releases, etc..  For example,
       what are they planning in their next release?  Using expanded
       memory with a low footprint would be ideal, of course thats
       just a dream I guess...  

	David M. Steibel (cs331333@umbc5.umbc.edu)
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From: defaria@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Andy DeFaria)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:19:33 GMT
Subject: Re: Can't teach old dog new tricks...
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino