HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (T-Dub - SGP '92)
Subject: Re: What If...
Reply-To: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:44:23 GMT

In article <egquVB1w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>, sbhimji@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Sam Bhimji) writes:
>As for Scott La Rock, I don't know much about him, or what kind of 
>background he came from (other than working in a Street Shelter helping 
>people) but why would 'Still #1' or "T'cha T'cha' not be made???
>
>Latah
>
>Sam Bhimji              sbhimji@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 

I have some little ideas on why these tracks might not have been made, but
nothing worth mentioning.  I know I am definately glad to have the pleasure of
nodding to KRS saying, "I'm Still #1."  One of my all-time favorite BDP cuts,
and hip hop cuts overall....

                                           T-Dub
                                           SHYGUY Productions

Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: rojohnso@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu (Ronald Johnson)
Subject: Re: Sleeping With The Enemy
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:02:18 GMT

In article <Bz7oIu.MpA@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.) writes:
>I found the only copy of Paris' "Sleeping With The Enemy" in Bloomington

>Since it is distributed on an indie
>label (Scarface Records), you'll probably have to go to a small shop to find
>it.  It won't be in the bigger stores until January.

Saw it in Tower Records in NYC over Thanksgiving break...

By the way, Im still kinda unsure about buying it...Should I ??? Anyone?anyone?

                                                                     RJ
From: sbhimji@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Sam Bhimji)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: ??
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 23:57:27 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

What's the 411 on the new Ice-T album? Has there been a set release date? 
I guess sometime in the new year for it, since the Tresspass soundtrack 
just came out...

Not on the rap tip, but...I read that there are now Malcolm X dolls 
out....kinda like the Ken/Barbie thang...but it is of Malcolm X standing 
with his hand clenched in a fist...also out is a MLK doll...anyone seen 
these thangs? The Malcolm doll comes with a tape of interviews as well..

Bizarre....

Sam Bhimji              sbhimji@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: ekundayo@athena.mit.edu (Enuma Olanrewaju Ogunyemi)
Subject: Re: Wrecka Sto's in Boston
Keywords: where can i find 'em
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:46:05 GMT

In article <Bz869F.Huz@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, sl313028@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Jazz (I've got)) writes:
|> I'll be in Boston from Dec. 26 to about Jan 3, so i wanted to know if
|> there are any good independent record stores in the area...i need 2 pick
|> up some phat old reggae version tracks, & possibly some vintage hip-hop
|> & go-go...please help me!! 
|> 
|> p.s.  speakin of go-go, what's the scoop?  has anyone done any go-go
|> trax lately?  DJ Kool? Trouble Funk? Chuck B. & the S.S.? EU?  or was
|> that go-go stuff just a fad after "Doin' the Butt"?
|> 
|> 
|> -jon 
|> sl313028@silver.ucs.indiana.edu



	Go-go is still going strong in its hometown.  It never really penetrated
outside the DC-Virginia-Maryland area (kinda like Nice and Shmoove's first album
in NYC) other than its exposure through School Daze.
	I spent two summers ago in DC playing at Chicago's and the Ritz, the big
song back then (and the only go-go song I would play up here ) was "Lock it" by
Rare Essence.  It was CRAZEEE PHAT!!!  Unfortunately they released a hip-hop
version that was all fucked up.
	DC gets props though for Lazy Doug, and Doo Doo Brown(well maybe not so
fat).  The radio stations there are more slammin than KISS or 'BLS.  I'd
definitely give it number one city for radio stations.
	

	If you are coming to Boston, you probably want to check Nubian Notions,
Skippy Whites, Newbury comics (Newbury Street and Harvard square they have some
nice shit).  For reggae try Skippy white's, Juanita's records, Taurus records.
Check the phone book for their numbers.
	Also, Dance music plus; Planet records and Nuggets (both in Kenmore
square) have some gold, if you care to look through tons of shit.
Listen to WMBR, Saturdays 8-12 (Hip-Hop), Sunday (2-6) the Jamn Session/Dance
Hall Riddim(yours'truly's) , 6-30-8.30 the Funhouse (Hip-Hop) and 12.30 ----
Club Scene Mastermix ( House).


Alafia.

Selector Dudublack
From: atb@whomp.engin.umich.edu (Adrian Bradley)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: another test posting...
Date: 20 Dec 92 21:20:19 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: atb@whomp.engin.umich.edu


I'm posting this to see if I can use my own machine to respond to articles...
Peace...
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: sl313028@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Jazz (I've got))
Subject: Re: To dis or not to dis
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:55:33 GMT

In article <gf_GnAu00iV285V44I@andrew.cmu.edu> Olayinka Kolawole <hotsauce+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>Well, 
...deleted...
>
>    '....I even got more flavor than PE'
>
>Now, my question is...is this the PE we all know and love?
>
>Anyone know who/what they are talking about...and by the way if it is PE
>they are talking about...then they are wrong about their flavor.....
everybody's probably jumpin on this one, but i'll do it too :)...
Naw, man, i think that their probably talkin about Flavor Flav...kinda
like sayin'
"I got more rock than the Flinstones" 
or something like that....
>
>                                        'you're welcome'
>                                                ...The Sauce...
so are you. :)
-jon

Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: agathon@athena.mit.edu ()
Subject: Re: Pete Nice & Richie Rich's new joint...
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 06:30:30 GMT

In article <of=IYNy00WBMM7gYlN@andrew.cmu.edu>, John Richard Murphy <jm82+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
|> 
|> 
|>         I'm probably the only guy in the world that likes Nice better
|> than Serch.  I don't think Nice was that bad on "Derlicts" but on

Yo, you ain't alone on this one holmes.  Serch always seemed like a clown to 
me.  Especially when he'd jump up and start steppin in the videos.  He tries
to hard to be down, while the Prime Minister just chills.  Pete flows better
too.  Besides, Return of the Product is one of the wackest albums I actually
sat through this year.  Feel sorry for my boy who actually paid money to grip
it.  Zeekers!

					Brutha G

Btw, what happened to that new LONS that someone said was supposed to drop this
fall?

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From: fedde@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Fedde Engler)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Pete Nice & Richie Rich's new joint...
Date: 13 Dec 92 00:30:28 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
NNTP-Posting-Host: minsk.docs.uu.se

isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell) writes:

>I have a hard time buying this.  Pete Nice has always rapped like he's
>constipated.  I always preferred Serch's style.

But Serch's album was really something that I forgot fast as hell. Didn't
touch me much at all. Couldn't hurt to give Nice a try, at leats for the
skills of the Dj :)

--
Fedde (fedde@bern.docs.uu.se)
From: wiz@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Patrick Fleming)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Production
Date: 13 Dec 92 11:23:59 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

To all the hip-hop producers, IUm looking for some good sequencing
software for programming drum loops.  Step entering drum beats is
a waste of time.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (T-Dub - SGP '92)
Subject: Re: Pete Nice & Richie Rich's new joint...
Reply-To: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:40:57 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.063030.10944@athena.mit.edu>, agathon@athena.mit.edu () writes:
>Btw, what happened to that new LONS that someone said was supposed to drop this
>fall?

From what I have heard, look for it either January or Feburary of '93...

                                          T-Dub
                                          SHYGUY Productions

Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: atb@mighty.engin.umich.edu (Adrian Bradley)
Subject: catching up...
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 19:23:33 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: atb@mighty.engin.umich.edu


What up y'all...

I'm posting this to catch up on some articles that I wanted to reply to, plus 
say peace to D.I.P., CORE, and the rest of alt rap:

There was a thread that went around about "jail house crews." Well, add Luther
Campbell and the 2 Live Crew to that list.

Also, there was a thread on the most BOOMIN albums to buy, and I wanted to give
my $0.02 - The groups Bass Patrol, Quad Force, and anything else from Miami/
Orlando will drop the bass low, although it's usually that Miami dance sound.
I've heard that Cypress Hill dropped some deep bass in their songs. In fact,
any gangsta rap out there will have some 808 in it somewhere. 

For the rest of the progressive hip-hop scene, it seems that more efforts are
being made to use different drum sounds than from what's on the 808. That drum
machine may become obsolete in the near future as new wave hip-hop takes over.
Just another example of how hip-hop is more than just rap; it's a culture that
constantly changes depending on how many original artists we have out there. 
And IMHO, we need as many new styles as possible to keep the mainstream from
picking it up and diluting it even further than it has already. Call me 
opinionated, but I got worried when I saw rap used to sell Barbie dolls and
classical music. Something's wrong here...

Peace...  C.O.R.E. y'all better get busy on this. Peace to the rest of y'all,
especially D.I.P. and Happy Holidays. (Let's see, GavinM, Fedde, Gumby, 
Michelle, and anybody else that I forgot)

...audi from the dojo...

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Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Turntable Fer Sale
From: dwrinkle@vax1.umkc.edu (--DJ Revolution--)
Date: 13 Dec 92 10:01:46 CST
Organization: Groove Continuum Music
NNTP-Posting-Host: vax1.umkc.edu

For those of you who are interested in gettin yer hands on the real shit,
I got (1) Technics SL1200Mk2 Turntable, with Technics slipmat, and
Stanton 500 DJ cartridge.  The turntable is only 4 months old, and in 
perfect condition with the original boxes and manuals.  
buyer pays $475 + s/h.
send all replies to DWRINKLE@vax1.umkc.edu
-- 

***********************************
* See Ya'                         *
* DJ Revolution [CONTINUUM MUSIC] *
* Believe Dat'                    *
***********************************

"Rap is ant art, you can't own no loops
 it's how you hook em up in the rhyme style troop!"
                                      --The Guru
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: sl313028@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Jazz (I've got))
Subject: Re: Sound bites!
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 03:44:12 GMT

In article <BzBwBy.CrK@acsu.buffalo.edu> v134n2mc@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (DA AGGRO KID) writes:
>	What kind of format is .au?  Do you know of any way to play those on a
>normal IBM system w/sound card(ProAudioSpectrum16).  I don't have access to
>either of those others, but it'd be nice to get a hold of those sound bites.
o.k., a coupla people probably want 2 know stuff like this. (i know i
did about 2 months ago).  

.au=SUN format
.snd=MAC,NeXT format
.iff=Amiga
.voc=soundblaster
.wav=windows
.mod=amiga
.mid=midi    }  both are usually just music
.rol=roland  } 

all of which can be read with one spectacular program (that i ftp'd from
wuarchive.wustl.edu under systems/ibmpc/msdos/sound) called Scoptrax.
it can also read raw sounds & convert them into whatever.  there are
several conversion utils that you can get from just about anywhere...if
you can't ftp, email me & i'll try 2 hook u up.
aw yeah, i don't work for scoptrax, i don't even know who wrote it! i
just know it's freeware (yup, not shareware) & it's a'ight.
>
>	Later,
>		Dave
-cheerz,
-jon
jmmadiso@indyvax.iupui.edu
From: bi011@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill King)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Body count in Philly plus Ice-T's tour next year with....
Date: 19 Dec 1992 16:59:19 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bi011@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill King)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


The Philadelphia Inquirer had an article about Body Count performing
downtown this week, and gave a little summary about what's taken place
with Ice-T the past couple months [like the Philly show with PE and H.O.Pain
being cancelled cuz of low tix sales and no security], but they said that
after this mini-Body Count tour, Ice-T was gonna do the college lecture
circuit for a few months, then, after his new album comes out, do an arena
tour with guns-n-roses. Kinda wild, but I think that'd be a good show...
Bill
-- 
Hey, hey champ, was she a "whoo"?  No, she was a "WHOOOOOO!" --Ric Flair
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: ckukkone@jarthur.claremont.edu (CK3)
Subject: Re: Turntable Fer Sale
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:54:09 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.100146.1@vax1.umkc.edu> dwrinkle@vax1.umkc.edu (--DJ Revolution--) writes:
>For those of you who are interested in gettin yer hands on the real shit,
>I got (1) Technics SL1200Mk2 Turntable, with Technics slipmat, and
>Stanton 500 DJ cartridge.  The turntable is only 4 months old, and in 
>perfect condition with the original boxes and manuals.  
>buyer pays $475 + s/h.
>send all replies to DWRINKLE@vax1.umkc.edu
>-- 
>
>***********************************
>* See Ya'                         *
>* DJ Revolution [CONTINUUM MUSIC] *
>* Believe Dat'                    *
>***********************************
>
>"Rap is ant art, you can't own no loops
> it's how you hook em up in the rhyme style troop!"
>                                      --The Guru


Hey if anybody's gonna pay that much........I sell mine for $450 including
shipping......HA

CK3
Organization: Sophomore, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 23:22:36 -0500 
From: Brian Lyle Millspaw <dselecta+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: 1992 Hip Hop Awards


Excerpts from netnews.alt.rap: 10-Dec-92 1992 Hip Hop Awards by T-Dub -
SGP '92@ritvax.i 
> I've seen a lot of posts on the 1992 hip hop awards and a smattering of
> categories, but that's about it.  Is someone already taking care of this?
> People really down to do this?  If not on the former and if so for the
latter,
>  
> I will volunteer to receive votes (via e-mail only), tally them and post the
> results.  I know I'd like to see what the net really thinks.  If everyone is
> down for this, here is what I was thinking... I will post some categories to
> vote on.  Hopefully this message won't take forever to get posted to the net,
> but I will take all additions/updates to these categories until Monday
> nite/Tuesday Morning, December 15th.  I'd advise all suggestions be
sent to me
>  
> by e-mail so I get them in time.  Hopefully we will have a good voting
form by
>  
> then and can start the voting this Tuesday.  I will take votes up
until Friday
> ,
> January 15th of 1993.  Hopefully this will give everybody a chance to
vote.  I
>  
> know all these Christmas breaks are coming up and I don't want anyone to miss
> their 'right' to vote.  If anyone doesn't like these dates, just yell
and give
>  
> your opinions for the voting dates.  I will have the results of the
vote poste
> d
> no later than January 22nd, the following Friday.  The results will
include th
> e
> top three vote getters in every category.  Is everyone willing to go
along wit
> h
> this?  If so, I will post a pre-voting form, so everyone can
scrutinize it  at
>  
> will!  If anyone wants to mention anything else or add more opinions,
post the
> m
> & send them to me by e-mail.  I'm not trying to take over or anything and 
> everyone should have a say in this, but I am getting restless waiting for
> everything to materialize and want to get these votes going so I don't
miss al
> l
> the fun (with my break coming up on the 18th).
>  
>                                           T-Dub
>                                           SHYGUY Productions
>                                           ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu

This isn't a dis yo, but The New Jack Hip-Hop awards are kinda 
Charles Isbell's thing ...  aren't they ???  Somebody get my 
back on this.  I thot dat the voting was handled well last year
but I'm sure dat he can alwayz use some help countin votes, cuz my
homie helped out last year. anyway ... the nominations will be
out in due time.

peace -Dselecta
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tuesday, 15 Dec 1992 11:38:15 CST
From: Tyrone Ellison <U14864@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Heavy D's New Single

Yo... Anybody out there heard Heavy D's new one "Who's the Man"?... I heard it
the other day, and I think that it's one of the first singles he put out that
didn't directly "cross over" (ie "Now that We've Found Love" and "We Got Our
Own Thang")... It's in there, and I hope the rest of his new album has the same
flavor.
Peace Out...
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: c162-du@po.berkeley.edu (bishwaroop ganguly)
Subject: Essays on BDP-ism
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:50:00 GMT




     Here is an excerpt of an interview with KRS, about one month after 
Edutainment came out. The topic is rather mundane (gangsta rap), but clock
his comments near the end 

---

KRS: The focus should never be on the particular group or artist. Take a look
at the record-buying public. For example, my album, Ghetto Music might go 
platinum or sell one-million copies while Ice-Cube would sell two-million.
So what is the public saying? When they buy my album they're saying 'We like
you KRS, we like to learn about where we come from'. When they buy gangsta shit
they're saying 'We like you Ice-Cube, we love you. We like it when you call our
women bitches and hoes, we like it when you do drive-by shootings. We urge you
to continue'. If these people didn't like violence and sex, Ice-Cube would be
either forced to change his style, or get out of the business. So that's how 
gangsta rap sells millions of records. Guns And Roses, with their racist 
statements, sells eleven-million copies. So the emphasis should be placed
on the record buying public.

KRS: I feel they (gangsta rappers) deal with reality and they should be heard.
I would say, that if I wasn't on the market, that...no, they shouldn't be on 
the market. Conversely, if they weren't on the market, then I would say that 
I shouldn't be there. 

----

    Now, a lot of sissy-ass BDP doubters dis KRS-1 for contradicting himself.
So with these last comments vs. his new album's theme ("If you're a gangster,
what are you doing in showbusiness?") is he contradicting himself? No, because
as anyone can see, gangsta rap no longer deals with reality as we, or BDP knows
it. It is now played-out and survives only if it can be more violent than the 
last gangsta album. Remember:

      "BDP will teach reality/
       No beatin' around the bush, straight up just like the P is free"

                                                         -Roop


Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: klewis@AFIT.AF.MIL (Keith A. Lewis)
Subject: ANYONE AT TENNESSE STATE UNIVERSITY?
Organization: Air Force Institue of Technology, WPAFB OH
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:06:43 GMT

I'M TRYING TO FIND A TRACIE PENNINGTON AT TENNESSE STATE UNIVERSITY.  IF 
THEIR IS ANYONE OUT THERE WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF HER WHEREABOUTS, PLEASE 
INFORM HER MY UNCLE (MICHAEL PEARSON) IS LOOKING FOR HER.  PLEASE E-MAIL ME 
WITH SOME TYPE OF INFO ON HER, ANYONE.


KEITH
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Sound bites!
Organization: Blue Riddle Productions
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:22:08 GMT

As a public service to all the homies and homettes on alt.rap who have access
to NeXTs, SUNs or other sound playing equipment, I have lobbied with some
ftp administrators at San Diego State to open up a rap music directory on
their ftp sounds site (sounds.sdsu.edu).  I'm going to post some .au files
in the directory (not yet established, but it should be just before the
holidays) before I head back to North Carolina Friday for the hlidays.  Then,
next semester, I'll be posting loads of rap music files, some old and some
new, so you can sample a track before going out and buying it.  For those
who haven't seen this file, it already contains volumes of song files of
numerous rock bands and sound effects beyond most anyone's wildest dreams.
(The complete index is 30 pages long and growing.)

Of course, I have an ulterior motive behind all this. (I usually do)  Over
the holiday break, I'll be finishing up a few of my own tracks and getting
them ready for the standard trunk-of-the-car distribution.  Just to let
everybody know that I ain't takin' no shorts, I'll be sampling the songs I
do and posting them on the sounds.sdsu.edu board.  Take a listen, enjoy,
then e-mail me and buy them. =^)  They should be packaged and ready to go
by about February or so, and I'm hoping to get about five tracks finished
before I return.  

All of that info, however, will follow later.  In the meantime, enjoy the
tracks, and remember, Blue Riddle Productions is in FULL effect for 1993...

-- 
--David J.-----------------------*********************************************
--Blue Riddle Productions 1993---   "RAP IS AN ART/TURN UP THE MICROPHONE"
--dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu-          Coming in 1993 from BRP.
--The Science is upon us...------*********************************************
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: s14335rd@UMASSD.EDU (W'zup)
Subject: Re: Sound bites!
Reply-To: s14335rd@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:56:25 GMT

>>	What kind of format is .au?  Do you know of any way to play those on a
>>normal IBM system w/sound card(ProAudioSpectrum16).  I don't have access to
>>either of those others, but it'd be nice to get a hold of those sound bites.
>>
>>	Later,
>>		Dave
>
>    	            
>	Is there anyone out there who would care to post a quick tutorial
>on how to use the sound application on the Sun?
>
>Would be greatly appreciated - Thankx - LG

Sorry, I don't know anything about the Sun sound app., but I do know 
how you can hear .au sounds on a PC...  There is a REALLY nice program 
called SCOPTRAX that you can use with ProAudio, SB, or just the PC 
Speaker!  This app. comes with an exec. called SUN2VOC.EXE which you 
can use to convert those .au files to plain ol' .voc files.  This is a 
REALLY good freeware product.  If you can't find where to get it, 
E-mail me for the anon. ftp address....
	
						Later,
						Rob.