From: "David A. Braun" <braun@thumper.bellcore.com>
Subject: a question
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 19:29:56 GMT



I need a little help. If you fold a sheet of paper as shown


	----------*----------
	|         *         |
	|         *         |
	|         *         |
	|         *         |
	|         *         |
	|         *         |
	|         *         |
	*********************  <-- fold 1 - bottom half to back
	|         *         |
	|         *         |
	|         *         |
	|         *         |
	|         *         |
	|         *         |
	|         *         |
	----------*----------

	          ^
	          |
	          --- fold 2 - left half to back


and then trim the bottom folds off, you have a little book of 8 pages called,
I believe, an octavo. If this page is printed correctly, you can print small
booklets on a single sheet as shown below.


    ----------*----------
    |         *         |
    |         *         |
    |    8    *    1    |	the numbers are "page" numbers
    |   (7)   *   (2)   |	the parenthisized numbers are the "page"
    |         *         |		numbers of the "page" on the back of the
    |         *         |		sheet as might be seen by superman
    |         *         |	"inv" indicates the page is upside down
    *********************
    |         *         |
    |         *         |
    |  5 inv  *  4 inv  |
    | (6 inv) * (3 inv) |
    |         *         |
    |         *         |
    |         *         |
    ----------*----------


If printing in portrait mode on a duplexing printer (left hand long edge
leading into the printer first) then the "2" sheets should be printed


    ----------*----------    ----------*----------
    |         *         |    |         *         |
    |         *         |    |         *         |
    |         *         |    |         *         |
    |    8    *    1    |    |    2    *    7    |
    |         *         |    |         *         |
    |         *         |    |         *         |
    |         *         |    |         *         |
    *********************    *********************
    |         *         |    |         *         |
    |         *         |    |         *         |
    |         *         |    |         *         |
    |  5 inv  *  4 inv  |    |  3 inv  *  6 inv  |
    |         *         |    |         *         |
    |         *         |    |         *         |
    |         *         |    |         *         |
    ----------*----------    ----------*----------

      first side               second side

This can be easily extended to a double octavo by starting with the sheet in
the landscape position and folding 3 times (left back, bottom back, left back).
In this case, bot the bottom and right edges need trimming.
The "pages" are arranged simillarly with 8 per side of the sheet.

Now my problems is this. I know how to arrange test frames on the
sheets. I know
how to arrange for stuff to flow from frame to frame in any order on
each sheet.
What I CAN'T seem to do is to flow across sheet boundries. Forward flow is ok.
Selecting a double sided document and left and right page layout definitions
take care of that. The problem is getting the flow to reverse (eg from "page"
3 which is on sheet 2 to "page" 4 on sheet 1)! The normal technique of
selecting
two text frames and "connecting" them doesn't work. The frame on one sheet is
automatically deselected as soon as you select a frame on the second sheet.

Anybody got any ideas?

dave braun
(201)829-4493
braun@thumper.bellcore.com

PS: FrameMaker's handling of inverted text is really terrible! You can
type text into or position the text in an inverted (rotate the frame by 180
degrees) frame just fine (left, right, up and down have interesting effects -
kinda like vertigo) but you cannot mouse into position! This is a real pain
in the above case since (in the double octavo) there are 2 inverted frames in a
row. To position the cursor in one of the inverted frames, you have to start in
an uninverted frame and walk (via the arrow keys) to the place of interest.
sigh!


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