From: boelter3945@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.dnd
Subject: Why are there limits? (was Re: Why are their level limits?)
Date: 31 Aug 92 12:29:47 -0500
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Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <67051@hydra.gatech.EDU>, ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz)
   writes:
> In article <1992Aug27.130500.6302@iscsvax.uni.edu>
>    boelter3945@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>>Besides, a mage who uses armor is
>>expressing to others that he lacks faith in what he does best, his spells. 
> Hmmm....  Don't tell that to Gandalf. :-)  [No, he didn't wear armor, but
> he did use one big sword!!!]

   Did Gandalf have stats for AD&D?  Just curious.

>>  Other people are too busy with what they do better to specialize.  A thief,
>>for example, is usually too busy training and improving and furthering his
>>thievery skills (of which there are a lot to work on!).
> This is wrong wrong wrong!!!  A 10th level thief will have about six 
> weapon and as many non-weapon proficiencies (plus any that he gained
> for intelligence).  I find it difficult to believe that a thief could find
> the time to become proficient with 6 different weapons, but he couldn't find
> the time to specialize in one. :-/

   Exactly my point.  Thief has 8 Theiving skills, 6 weapons to stay practiced
with, and 6 (about) non-weapon proficiencies to work at.  Where does the spare
time go to?.. :)  That's why they don't specialize, because of all these
things, and the fact that this doesn't fit the role-playing of a thief.  If you
wanted to specialize, why not choose a Fighter/Thief?  (guards against flame
from someone who won't like this, cause can't be human then).

> Priests do not spend all their time praying.
> Wizards do not spend all their time studying.
> Warriors do not spend all their time fighting.
> Thieves do not spend all their time robbing.

   Agreed, they won't spend all their time on it, and sorry if my wording
implied that they would.  My point is that if you role-play the profession, the
character would _want_ to spend more time in what they do best, such as what's
listed above.

> Sorry to beat a dead horse, but I've heard several people say this just
> *today*, and I just wanted to get that off my chest.

   Agreed.  Maybe this discussion should be moved to .advocacy (or is that for
between game systems only?)  Ah well, just putting my $0.02 worth in.

                                        John "Nightwind" Boelter

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