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From: derich@netcom.com (Scott A. Steinbrink)
Subject: You prefer white or black magic?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 16:43:21 GMT

If you had a choice, would you prefer black or white magic?

Why?


I'd pick white so I can help God spread some goodness all around the earth.

- Scotty

-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: vengeanc@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu ()
Subject: Re: Rush the Entertainer; Congress equally Entertaining
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 19:42:51 GMT

ez012344@chip.ucdavis.edu writes:

>In article <C17rpI.GFJ@news.cso.uiuc.edu> vengeanc@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>>Here's the situation.  Rush is an ENTERTAINER first and foremost.  He is
>>not a journalist, reporter, or Geraldo Rivera.  He can do anything he wants
>>to keep the show moving and interesting.  He has no obligation to let
>>anyone say anything!  He openly admits this, and callers therefore have
>>no excuse for not knowing this when they call.  

>I'm not surprised Limbaugh couches his politics as entertainment. Other
>evil GOP creeps have been doing this for years. People like Hatch, Specter,
>Helms ... they're worth laughing at, but unfortunately ignorant dupes fail
>to realize that they are just kidding, and subsequently act where the
>entertainer merely mentions.

>Dan
>deherrin@ucdavis.edu



Oh yeah.. well thought out.  The fact that millions of people turn his
show on each night and laugh their asses off never entered your head, did
it?


Have a Politically Correct day,


Edward Simmonds- too stunned to care, standard disclaimers




Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.revisionism,alt.news-media
From: gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
Subject: Re: Norman Lamont, his flexible friend, and Miss Whiplash
Reply-To: gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Distribution: uk
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 10:53:50 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.102701.9700@merlin.comlab.ox.ac.uk> library@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Gordon Riddell) writes:
>
>It does strike me as contradictory that someone can legally not earn money
>from
>prostitution, but when they do they have to pay tax on it!

Yes they can.  It's living off someone else's immoral earnings that's
illegal.




--
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From: ingria@bbn.com (Bob Ingria)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: cockroaches
Date: 23 Jan 93 00:14:41 GMT
Reply-To: ingria@BBN.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com
In-reply-to: angus@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu's message of 20 Jan 93 18:17:49 GMT

In article <1jk50dINN99u@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> angus@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chris McRoberts) writes:

   is anyone else worried about the conspriacy by cockroaches?
   I heard they sneak up on people at night and wisper subliminal messages
   to them.  this causes certain charactoristics thought before to be caused 
   by a difference in the sexes. for instance, into womens ears, the wisper
   "you will be cranky once a month, always take too long to get ready, and 
   spray every thing in your home with flowery potpouri stuff".

   to guys they wisper "scratch yourself in public, leave dishes around the house, and never leave the toilette seat down.

David Cronenberg's film _Naked Lunch_ reveals the full details of this
heinous conspiracy and exposes the ruling factions in Interzone and
Annexia that use roaches and centipedes to rule the world.

--
-30-
Bob Ingria

``Save the psychoanalysis for your grasshopper friends.''
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: What the Trilateralists truly intend
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 06:59:42 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.062730.2960@news.ysu.edu> ad626@yfn.ysu.edu (Steve Crocker) writes:
>Well Ted, a few points here. First, let me point out that your atempts
>at refutation have a tendency to rely on "facts" that are supported by
>nothing but your unsupported opinion (which I for one find a lot less 
>credible than that of Lyndon LaRouche). You say the Brookings Institution
>is an "innucouous organization". Why, because Ted Frank says so? 

Because, unlike Lyndon Larouche, they don't engage in harassment and
credit card fraud to keep their organization running for one.  That's
generally a prerequisite.

I don't think I've ever used the word "innucouous" in my life, FWIW.
Isn't that a Moroccan salad of some sort?

>Fourth, and most serious, you repeat the false statement made by others 
>that Lyndon LaRouche has "anti-semitic beliefs". I have been a political
>supporter of Lyndon LaROuche for about 15 years

Then I know that you have no credibility either, and I can safely
kill-file you without missing anything of any interest.  Bye-bye.
-- 
ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
standard disclaimers          | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
From: gss@igc.apc.org (General Steamship)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: ** The Birth of NEW-ISRAEL ** (
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:41:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:1992Dec31.051321.2862@panix.com:-1955557135:cdp:1299600162:000:65
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!gss    Jan 26 08:41:00 1993


Hey Stephen, who do you say Jesus is?  (Long explanation please)
From: "alex bosika" <alex.bosika@canrem.com>
Subject: u: destruction of us/can
Reply-To: "alex bosika" <alex.bosika@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:19:16 EST

-> In article <19936@mindlink.bc.ca> Scott_Leaf@mindlink.bc.ca (Scott
-> Leaf) writes >I think that if we trully are here for a "Conspiracy"
-> then let us rise above >these "old line"  high jinks and come up with
-> a true conspiracy of Global >perspective.
-> >
-> >President Bill Clinton, a well known Canada sympathizer, has hinted
-> toward >bringing Health Care to the millions in the U.S. who dont
-> have it.  I propose >that the Preseident is in fact a modern day
-> Benedict Arnold (who was actually >a good guy) and is moving towards
-> Canadianizing the entire population of the >U.S.!
-> >
-> >Yes Ladies & Gents the "Kinder, gentler nation" is in fact Canada
-> and Clinton >knows it.  Canadians can waste no fear on N.A.F.T.A for
-> it is the North >American manifest destiny to become "like
-> Canadians"!
-> >
-> >Thus you have your conspiracy.
-> >
-> >Yey Bill!
->
-> Of course you know that the US is going to be the 11th province, eh?
-> -chris blask

 Of course, our wonderful friends down south had better realize
something. We love AMERICA so much (at least I do) that we need to take
control of her. There's no doubt about it. A wonderful 11th province
would make things great. Or we'll make it the South Territories. :)
Either way, we got the best place under control. Geez, the beautiful
Midwest. The beautiful New England States. States like Oregon and the
Carolinas. Texas. Oh, the beauty and potential!!!

 And then think. Us snowbirds could vacate to Florida every month, buy
up all those consumer commodities and take us BOTH out of the recession.
:) Of course, we'd have to yank the US dollar out of circulation as its
too high for our tastes or for our Canadian dollar.

NOTE: I have a lot of good friends in the STATES. I don't want anyone
over-reacting to this mere Canadian Conspiracy. (BIG GRIN).
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: harry@hershele.alf.dec.com (Harry Katz)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Jewish Bankers
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:11:35 GMT
Organization: DEC - Customer Support Center, Alpharetta, GA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

In article <1993Jan27.003604.6119@StarConn.com>,
Randall J. Burns (rburns@StarConn.com) writes:

	If you want to look at privileged elites in this country right
	now, from a standpoint of examining ethicity you really need
	to look at two groups: WASP's and Jew. Certainly, Cubans, East
	Indians, and certain other Asian groups have gained a lot of
	ground, but these are still the  two largest groups that have
	political, financial, academic and economic power in America
	today.

As Mr. Burns cites no studies, he must be depending on his own personal
impressions.  This accounts for the fact that he does not even mention
Americans of Greek heritage.  Greek Americans are America's best
educated minority group, with Jews coming in second.  On the other
hand, Greek Americans are the second richest minority group in America,
with Jews coming in first.  There is no telling what other groups are
being overlooked due to Mr. Burns' limited assumptions.


Mr. Burns continues:

	I tend to think that it is an important question to ask to
	what extant each of these groups have acted in their own
	interest to the detriment of others-and whether each group has
	pathologies that are peculiar to their particular ethnicity.

First, we should take a look at all bankers as a group, and break them
down into sub-groups based on ethnicity.  Then we will be able to see
how many Jewish bankers there are, if any, and what percentage of all
bankers are Jewish.  We would also be able to determine with some
accuracy what other ethnic groups to include in the study.

Once that has been done, we can begin to discuss how we can determine
"to what extant each of these groups have acted in their own interest
to the detriment of others etc."


Harry Katz
From: mswihart@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Michael R Swihart)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Watergate/Deep Throat
Date: 21 Jan 93 00:44:52 GMT
Followup-To: mswihart@gn.ecn.purdue.edu
Distribution: alt.conspiracy
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

Does anyone have any idea on who Deep Throut, the informant 
for the Washington Post in the Watergate investigation, really was?

Curious and Wondering,
M. Swihart
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.bush,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: mykes@shell.portal.com (mike myke schwartz)
Subject: Re: Can a president stop the pres. elect from taking office (was: pardons)
Followup-To: alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.bush,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Organization: Portal Communications Company
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:54:14 GMT

matthew Reinker (mreinker@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:
: 
: 	Yeah, Yeah and then Canada moves in and takes over the world. 
: It's a CIA plot.
: 
: X

You forgot to add that Bush was the brains behind the CIA plot.
From: nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson)
Subject: Re: Report on Gritz from Idaho
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 10:54:03 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1k06f5INNgqk@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cj195@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John W. Redelfs) writes:
>                                            But I believe there is a
>sinister secret society trying to set up a global dictatorship with
>members of all races, religions and cultural backgrounds.  I further
>believe that many members of this secret society hold concurrent
>membership in the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral
>Commission.  I believe that the phrase New World Order is one of the
>words that George Bush used during the Gulf War to refer to this
>emerging world government under the United Nations.  I also believe that
>George Bush and many of his friends belong to this secret society.

  What is your evidence for any of this?


---peter

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From: f_gautjw@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Jewish Bankers
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:15:46 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

In article <1993Jan25.215123.24774@starbase.trincoll.edu>, nmiller@starbase.trincoll.edu (norman miller) writes:
> In article <1k1jf7INNhmf@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cj195@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John
> W. Redelfs) writes:
>>
>>Do you admit the possibility, Ted, that there might be a multicultural
>>banking Mafia?  If there is no evidence that there is one, is there any
>>evidence that there is not one?
>>
> 
> John Redelfs, who specializes in genteel anti-Semitism, has nevertheless
> come to the right forum with this piece of logic.
> 
> Lifney chatoeynu harabim..
> 
> Norman Miller
> 
Calling Redelfs a specialist in "genteel anti-semitism" is scarcely a
genteel criticism.  It is, in fact, among the harshest criticisms I've
seen on usenet considering the quality and character of Redelf's posts.
I regard it as a highly abusive attempt to intimidate and silence a
liberated voice with whom you obviously disagree.  I find the recklessness
with which you apply the tar brush of antisemitism to John a disgusting
display of hypocritical self-righteousnes in which you sit as judge,
obviously thinkng you can read Redelf's mind as you are certainly offer
no evidence to back your ludicrous claim. Did he use the wrong code words?

I think there should be a word to describe the action of people who use
the word "anti-semite" not to identify but to abuse, intimidate and
ridicule those with whom they disagree.  Without such malignity as
you express, this forum could be much better in which serious ideas
and social problems are discussed without having to dodge rocks. I hope
you will reexamine your description of John. Any of us might get upset
at an opinion expressed by someone else and want to say the meanest
thing we can think of before our temper cools.  If that is the case
with your remark, then I have been too harsh with you and apologize
in advance.  If you really mean it, then I urge you to reexamine your
own value system.

-Joe Gaut
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From: dave@frackit.UUCP (Dave Ratcliffe)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.individualism,alt.censorship,misc.headlines,soc.culture.usa,alt.activism.d
Subject: Re: REVERSING THE SCALES OF INJUSTICE: If Iraq Occupied the
Date: 26 Jan 93 01:09:29 GMT
Followup-To: alt.society.civil-liberty
Organization: Data Factory Services, Harrisburg, Pa.

In article <C16qrz.8qC@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger) writes:
> The
> purpose of the sanctions are more or less the same: to change the
> actions of the government in power.

More precisely, the purpose of sanctions is to either 

A) Force an errant (by our definition) government of a specific country
   to see the error of their ways and do it our way, or,

B) Get the citizens of said specific country so mad at their government
   for getting the sanctioning body pissed at them that they DO
   something about unseating the government they currently have. 

Granted, people in the country being sanctioned, Iraq in this case, are
suffering. Nearly as much as the people of Kuwait suffered while the
Iraqi army was occupying their country. It's a sad fact that people DO
suffer under sanctions. But I firmly believe that if NOTHING were done
and the world were to sit back and "do unto others", as one non-violent
person in this group recently advocated, then the toll in human lives
and misery would eventually be much worse and more widespread. 

Remember WWII and a guy named Adolf. Isolationists preached the same
posture then and we stood back and watched while Europe was swallowed up
and millions killed. While there are some who will cringe at the
comparison, the situation in Iraq isn't so different. Just substitute
"Kurds" for "Jews". 

Remember, there's always a tin-plated dictator somewhere waiting for the
rest of the world to get complacent and pacifistic. Somebody has to be
ready to slap them down. Who else now has the muscle? _I_ sure as hell
wish another country would stand up but in lieu of that unlikely event,
we're elected, so to speak.

-- 
 vogon1!compnect!frackit!dave@psuvax1.psu.edu            |  Dave Ratcliffe  |
 - or - ..uunet!wa3wbu!frackit!dave                      |  Sys. <*> Admin. |
                                                         | Harrisburg,  Pa. |
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,soc.culture.jewish
From: rtc@westford.ccur.com (Robert Chesler)
Subject: US Media  (was Re: Jewish Bankers)
Organization: Concurrent Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:25:35 GMT

I think the question of trend here is more of why it is only the (few)
Jewish criminals that get so much attention in the US media.  By few I
am refering to our per-capita crime rate, but this is not my point.

--Robert

In article <EGGERTJ.93Jan25230518@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu>, eggertj@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan25.134823.790@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:
|> >   In article <1993Jan25.083137.28783@StarConn.com> rburns@StarConn.com (Randall J. Burns) writes:
|> >   >Mr. Frank, let me ask you:
|> >   >
|> >   >1) Do you feel it is sheer and utter coincidence that several of the
|> >   >   most prominent financial criminals in recent decades have been Jewish
|> >   >   (i.e. Ivan Boesky, Michael Milken, Meyer Lansky)? 
|> >...
|> >   I note that you leave out Charles Keating, the Silverado scandal, every
|> >   single S&L in Texas, etc.  Non-Jews do perfectly fine in producing
|> >   financial criminals.
|> 
|> He also forgot the Texan Hunt brothers (who tried to corner the world
|> siver market), who are really good ole boys.  And BCCI, which hardly
|> qualifies as a Jewish institution!
|> 
|> And one mustn't forget Mr. Potter! ;-)
|> 
|> --
|> =Jim  eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert)


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From: Sean.P.Donahue@dartmouth.edu (Sean P. Donahue)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.individualism,alt.censorship,misc.headlines,soc.culture.usa,alt.activism.d
Subject: Re: REVERSING THE SCALES OF INJUSTICE: If Iraq Occupied the    
 United States
Date: 22 Jan 93 02:01:15 GMT
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Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
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The sanctions against South Africa didn't deprive the South African
people of basic medical supplies, water treatment equipment, and such,
as the sanctions against Iraq have done to the Iraqi people.  I support
general sanctions against Iraq, but believe that under the supervision
of international relief agencies such as the Red Cross and the American
Friends Service Committee, penicilin. prostheses, and such should be
allowed into the country.

I am unconditioanlly opposed to bombing any country.  I am as opposed
to Sadaam Hussein's actions against the Kurds and the Shiites as I am
to the U.S.'s actions against Iraq.  But, as an American citizen, my
voice is strongest when speaking out on policies within this country,
though as a member of Amnesty International, I have worked for the past
four years to end human rights abuses around the world including in
Iraq.

Sean Donahue
(Sean.P.Donahue@dartmouth.edu)
"Call it peace or call it treason, call it love, or call it reason, but
i ain't a marchin' anymore." -Phil Ochs
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: Yale Law One-World Government?
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:01:01 GMT

In article <1jll6hINNc5h@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aq817@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve Crocker) writes:
>
>Peter Nelson suggests that it is natural for leaders to share such
>indicators as high incomes and well-connected families. This is true
>in an aristocratic state, but certainly falls a ways short of the 
>democratic ideal according to which a common person, such as Lincoln, 
>could rise to power with minimal or zero suppport from the power
>brokers. 

What's Clinton, chopped liver?
-- 
ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
standard disclaimers          | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
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From: aq817@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve Crocker)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Yale Law One-World Government?
Date: 23 Jan 93 09:30:01 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Gee Ted, how would you have known if the CFR WAS at the inaugaration?
Did you expect they would all carry signs?

-Steve
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,soc.culture.jewish
From: nmiller@starbase.trincoll.edu (norman miller)
Subject: Re: Jewish Bankers
Organization: Trinity College, Hartford, CT.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:20:38 GMT

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In article <1993Jan25.211546.2559@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> f_gautjw@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Joe Gaut takes me to task for calling John Redelfs a genteel anti-Semite.  He
writes:

>
>I think there should be a word to describe the action of people who use
>the word "anti-semite" not to identify but to abuse, intimidate and
>ridicule those with whom they disagree.  Without such malignity as
>you express, this forum could be much better in which serious ideas
>and social problems are discussed without having to dodge rocks. I hope
>you will reexamine your description of John. Any of us might get upset
>at an opinion expressed by someone else and want to say the meanest
>thing we can think of before our temper cools.  If that is the case
>with your remark, then I have been too harsh with you and apologize
>in advance.  If you really mean it, then I urge you to reexamine your
>own value system.
>
>-Joe Gaut

No chance, Joe.  I'm a hardened sinner.  Moreover, though in point of fact
I _don't_ throw the accusation around very freely, I have over the years
developed a pretty keen sense of who is and who isn't.  Nothing unusual
about that: I suspect that any Jew on this board who has spent his life
working among Christians can just as easily distinguish the genteel Jew-
haters from their more numerous brothers.

Norman Miller


Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: aq817@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve Crocker)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: CFR
Date: 24 Jan 1993 09:17:15 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


No Ted, not my paranoia. Your ignorance. I certainly didn't intend
to suggest that their membership is secret. Remember I am the one
who has urged YOU to go to the library and look it up, so you would
have a little more idea what you are talking about. I was merely 
suggesting that if they didn't carry big signs saying CFR, I would
not have expected you to be aware of them or acknowledge their presence.
Sometimes the best way to keep a secret is to leave it lying around 
in the open, knowing that most people will ignore it and refuse to
recognize its significance. You are living proof that this method works.

-Steve
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