HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: deek@pecan.cns.udel.edu (michael deerkoski)
Subject: Re: External Disk Case $109.
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:23:06 GMT

In article <71123@apple.Apple.COM> minow@Apple.COM (Martin Minow) writes:
>re: Hard drive cases:
>>Saturae Corporation of Cambridge, MA has similar units for $95.  (40 W PS)
>>1-800-373-3063
>>         Respectfully submitted by David Wong <wong@athena.mit.edu>
>
>The Saturae cases are all metal and, to judge from those I purchased,
>quite well made. They do not have Underwriters (or similar) stickers
>and I haven't determined whether they will work on 220 volt. The Saturae
>folk are quite helpful, however.
>
>If you order, be sure to tell them the brand of disk you intend to install
>and ask how to install the SCSI pushbutton cabling. In my case, the SCSI
>pushbutton cabling was not compatible with my drives, and I had to use
>jumper blocks.
>
>Martin Minow
>minow@apple.com
>The above does not represent the position of Apple Computer.

Ditto here!  I needed to buy a external case and put my old internal drive
in it, and they were very helpful.  A great (but tiny) company!

Seeya,

-- 
Michael Deerkoski           |Internet: deek@brahms.udel.edu
Undergraduate               |          deek@freezer.cns.udel.edu
University of Delaware      |CompuServe: 76300,2612|AppleLink:      deek
Apple Computer Student Rep. |                      |America Online: deek
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: quan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Tony Quan)
Subject: Cheap Mac Portable memory
Originator: quan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 22:45:20 GMT


Progress report on my search for Mac Portable memory:  lowest price
I was able to find was $379, from Mac Warehouse.  Quite a bit lower
than my original quote of $500+ for the same 4 MB of memory.  Still
not cheap though, but probably the best I can get.  Thanks for the
replies to my original query.  Mac Warehouse's number is
800-255-6227 and the product is the PacRAM 4.  Of course I have
no affliation with MacWarehouse.

--Tony
quan@cs.stanford.edu
From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Truth in Advertising (can the PowerBook talk?)
Date: 19 Aug 92 23:42:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.180057.15796@phri.nyu.edu>, roy@alanine.phri.nyu.edu (Roy Smith) writes:
> 
> davidl@ssd.intel.com (David Levine) writes:
> > I've heard that Macintalk doesn't work under System 7, and the PowerBooks
> > only run System 7 (officially).  Therefore Macintalk doesn't work on the
> > PowerBook, and I'm not aware of any commercially-available (actually
> > released, not just vaporware) speech software other than Macintalk.
> 
> 	Talking Moose works just fine under System 7.  I don't think it
> uses Macintalk, but does it's own speech generation.
> 
> >  "Dr. Langley taught me to sing a song.  Would you like to hear it?"
> 
> 	Ah, but can the PowerBook sing?  We may have to wait another 9
> years for that.

It may already be too late.  HAL said that he was first activated in 1992,
(on Jan 20th, if I recall correctly).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: 11437294@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (NATHAN WHEAT)
Subject: Re: Grounding your mac
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 09:04:41 GMT

>
>I grounded my IIci this way and it worked fine.  Most hardware stores have
>a three prong to two prong adaptor with a screw connector for ground.  When
>I worked at Los Alamos and as in dorms from WWII, I simply connected the
>ground to the heating pipes and away I went.  I now carry the adaptor along
>with some wire everywhere my system goes.  
>(except that my system changed to a Mac+ that then had it's power board
>fry [and inductor problem?] and took out the motherboard - so now I
>wait for the new macs)

Why is it necessary to ground the macs at all?  On my computer, the cables 
to both the monitor and the computer connect to the computer by TWO (count 
them ...TWO) pins/sockets.  The ground is a safeguard so that a device will 
blow a fuse if a short circuit occurs in the CASE or similar (it will also 
blow a fuse if the motherboard short circuits, but not thru ground).  If the 
computer is not using this as a ground (and has a plastic case anyway), why 
is it so necesssary to ground it externally?

Nathan W.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: wong@athena.mit.edu (David C. Wong)
Subject: Re: PB HD Warning
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 07:39:38 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.015723.8181@talon.ucs.orst.edu> hinr@hobo.ECE.ORST.EDU (Robert Hinz) writes:
>In article <892@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> labccc@emory.edu (Chris Chung) writes:
>>
>>When carrying around your PB's, your should shut down, NOT sleep.
>>The sleep mode doesn't park the R/W head of the HD.  You can risk
>>crashing your HD and worse.... permanently damaging your HD.
>>The sleep mode is cool in that if you need to leave and haven't
>>finished what you're doing you can pick up where you stopped.
>>Unfortunalely you kinka have to give that up to protect your HD.
>>Apple shout make a sleep mode that parks the heads.
>>
>>Chris Chung
>
>This is not what I have heard from several sources. As I understand it
>the PB _does_ park the HD heads when it sleeps. In addition Apple gives no
>warning that I can find about transporting a sleeping PB. Where did you
>get your information? Does anyone know for SURE? Where are you Blue Meanies
>from Apple? Let's have th real scoop here!
>
>Rob Hinz

Rob, Chris is correct in his original post.  The Macintosh User's Guide for
  PowerBooks states several times that the PowerBook should be shut down 
  if you plan to move it anywhere.  I take this as an indication that something
  is liable to move -- in this case, the hard drive heads. 



--
         Respectfully submitted by David Wong <wong@athena.mit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: richard@fwi.uva.nl (Richard Carels)
Subject: Re: IIsi vs new Macs - should I wait?
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:11:00 GMT

 In article <1992Aug19.152742.20880@gvl.unisys.com> dave@prc.unisys.com (David Lee Matuszek) writes:
>
>Do you want to argue with "bigger"?  Check your "About this Macintosh"
>Apple menu item.  Or just count your installation disks.
>
>Do you want to argue with "slower"?  I have both a 16MHz LC running
>System 6.0.8 with Finder, and a 20MHz IIsi running System 7.0/TuneUp
>7.1.1.  The LC is clearly the faster of the two.  Do you do such a
>side-by-side comparison every day?

This comparison doesn't work. Of course you would expect a IIsi to run
faster than an LC. But: the LC has separate VRAM, where the IIsi uses
bank A of regular RAM for video memory. That makes an enormous difference
in speed (compare speedometer results for a IIsi using internal video and
the same IIsi using a videocard, makes me happy I don't use the internal vid.)
Compare sys 607 and 7.0 both on the IIsi, and then you can make conclusions.
Indeed, the sys 7 Finder is somewhat slower than the sys 6 one (not the
system is slower, only the Finder). On my IIsi at home the difference is
hardly noticeble, on my old MacPlus I notice more of it (does not keep me
from using it on either machine. Aliases, FileSharing, I wouldn't want to
miss them. How did we ever do without?).

And:
In article <1992Aug19.200337.27040@das.harvard.edu> vreddy@pappus.uucp (Venkatesh Reddy) writes:
>I HAVE run both 6.07 and 7.0/7.1.1 on my IIci, and the 7.0/7.1.1 was
>definitely faster... 

This is what I mean. These are setups you can compare. 7.0/7.1.1 faster?
Could be, because you seem to be 6 major versions of tune-up ahead of us, that
got stuck at 1.1.1 :-)

Richard

-- 
Richard Carels,  University of Amsterdam      
                 Computer Science Department  Email:
Macintosh        Kruislaan 403                richard@fwi.uva.nl
systems manager  1098 SJ AMSTERDAM            Applelink: HOL0070
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 11:39:59 EDT
From: <TCO1@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Nubus card for weather data

I am looking for the company that sold a newbus card that collected
weather data from a remote weather sensor.  The data could be collected
every 30 seconds or once every 24 hours.  The data could be dumped to a databas
e for analysis.  Anybody know what company manufactured this Nubus card
and remote weather station.  Plase reply by e-mail if possible. Thanks.

TCO1@psuvm.edu
From: kwix@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Powerbook 145 identity crisis
Date: 20 Aug 92 10:36:00 EDT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Cornell University

Hello,
 
	I am sitting at a desk with two powerbooks, a 140, and a 
145.  When I opened the original box for the 145, there was a 
little notice that said the two machines were identical except 
for the processor speed, and that anywhere in the manual that 
the 140 is mentioned, read 145.  Well, It appears that Apple 
is really not kidding, because the only difference is the 
speed, not even the roms are different.  This 145 thinks it is 
a 140 in the about this macintosh dialog and every other place 
where one would find this information.  (Speedometer etc.)  
Does this seem a little wierd to anybody, I mean that normally 
Apple machines know what they are.
 
Eric Soroos
Kwix@vax5.cit.cornell.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: HK.MLR@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark Rogowsky)
Subject: Re: PC printing to Mac printer on Ethernet: how?
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 04:44:43 GMT

In article <ferch.713693926@swiss.ucs.ubc.ca>,
ferch@ucs.ubc.ca (Les Ferch) writes:
>
>Dayna also sells a LocalTalk card and software that puts a PC on a Mac
>network with full access to servers and printers. I don't know if the
>software is sold seperately or if it supports Ethernet cards.
>
>Farallon has their PhoneNet Talk software which supports LocalTalk and
>Ethernet cards (3Com for sure) and provides access to Appleshare servers
>and AppleTalk printers.
>
DO NOT attempt to use Dayna's software NOR Farallon's and print to a
shared AppleTalk printer. Put simply, these products only work in
theory. Dayna's software is not compatible with Windows 3.0 or 3.1
and they will never upgrade it (they told me so). As a matter of
fact, Dayna will tell you to use Farallon's software.

OK, so now you're ready, right? Wrong. Farallon's software "works"
with Windows but does not support background printing via Print
Manager (Windows version of Print Monitor). If someone else is using
the printer, then Windows will sit around waiting forever and you
will not be able to use the computer. Eventually, it will quit.

Even when the printer is free, you will periodically lose part of
your document in the output. A 2.5 megabyte printer can handle
roughly 6 pages, no more. The more memory, the more pages you can
print. The more PCs trying to share the printer, the more problems
you will have since, even with the Farallon software, they don't
really speak Appletalk completely (i.e. they can't automatically
wait for a network printer like a Mac can).
>
>Better yet, get an Extended Systems ethernet card for the IIIsi. This card
>supports EtherTalk and IPX (in case you ever install a Novell network).

Extended Systems also sells board that support Appletalk directly.
You will still need a printer-sharing device on the PC end, which
Extended System also sells. This solution is expensive, but it will
work.

Incidentally, I have spent over 20 hours on the Farallon solution,
with Farallon tech supoort, Microsoft tech support, Dayna tech
support, etc. I didn't want to give up on it because it should work
in theory. Theory and practice are not the same thing, though.


Mark Rogowsky
rogo@forsythe.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Subject: Re: New IIvx and IIvi...why on EARTH 16mhz?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Originator: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
	<de19-160892045906@mac40-pg2.umd.edu>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 20:32:33 GMT

.umd.edu> de19@umail.umd.edu (Dana S Emery) writes:

   It has occured to me that Apple may simply be running out all of its
   current design work, so as to get *some* return from all ongoing
   development, in order to 'clear house' for a switch in emphasis to the
   taligent product.


Wrong. The taligent won't run only on macs, and probably will
not run on 68k based macs. It won't be here until 95-96 either.
The future for the mac IS system 7.1, and then system 8 with the
micro kernel, both of which will run on RISC macs as well as
68020 and larger macs. Then there's A/UX, moving into PowerOpen
on RISC machines (and maybe on the 030/040s as well) for the
government market.

The taligen thing is a third thread, and will most probably not
be baseline, but an add-on like A/UX (PowerOpen)

Pure speculation on my part, of course.

-- 
- I have decided that it is not boxes but my lack of skill that's the problem.
- Traitor! This kind of attitude will get you nowhere around here. If you must
  know, it's not your boxes that are the problem, it's your lack of a
  sufficient number of boxes. Go out and buy something.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: msbogd@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Michael S. Bogdanski)
Subject: Quadra VRAM Problems
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:25:28 GMT

I just installed 6 256k VRAM SIMMS supplied by Peripheral Outlet in my
Quadra 700.  When I went the the "Monitors" Control panel to set the screen
to 24bit mode, all I found were the same options before I installed the
additional VRAM.  The highest setting was still 256k.  I tried both an
Apple 13" HiRes monitor and a Seiko CM1445 14" monitor.  It seems to me as
though the new VRAM is not being recognized.  Is there something I am
missing or is the VRAM bad?

Michael S. Bogdanski
msbogd@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov
NASA Lewis Research Center
From: howarth@rice.edu (Jack W. Howarth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: 8-bit or 24-bit, that is the question...
Date: 17 Aug 1992 01:08:07 GMT


  Well, now that I have settled on my monitor (a Sony 1304S), I am trying
to decide whether the extra $200 is worth it to get a Xceed Macro 30 graphics
board for my SE/30 rather than the 8 bit Xceed 30 board. I am curious
to hear about real world uses for the 24 bit board and the relative speed
hit on the SE/30 between 8 and 24 bit color graphics. Oh, I will be in 32 bit
mode with 8 meg RAM/16 Meg VM. I suspect that a minority of programs will
make use of 24 bit graphics. I don't have a DW C (just the old DW) so my
uses for color would be more on screen than for hardcopy. Actually, I would
use it mainly for molecular graphics and scientific data analysis so I
suspect 8 bit is enough. Just wanted to check the current conventional wisdom.
             Jack

--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jack W. Howarth, Ph.D.                      Univ. of Texas Medical School
Research Fellow                                            P.O. Box 20708 
Department of Biochemistry                           Houston, Texas 77225      
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
howarth@proto.med.uth.tmc.edu    Phone: 713-792-5667    FAX: 713-794-4150
From: uyyifrah@mcs.drexel.edu (Y Yifrah [y^2])
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: What to do with 256K SIMMS?
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:38:47 GMT
Organization: Drexel University

In article <Bsvn6u.12F@news.udel.edu> sharris@chopin.udel.edu (Scott A Harris) writes:
>In article <DDL683.92Aug11214338@esther.albany.edu> ddl683@csc.albany.edu (Dreaming) writes:
>>   In article <par-110892162810@mac124.ugadm.nwu.edu>, par@nwu.edu (Pete
>>   Rodriguez) wrote:
>>
>>   > Are 256K SIMMS good for anything?  I've got 10 of these things just
>>   > collecting dust in a closet.  Can anyone think of anything to do with these
>>   > things?
>>
>>They make great-looking keychains.
>>
>I'll second that.  And it always draws attention, people think
>you're some real smart techno wizard.
>
>-- 
>Scott Harris
>sharris@chopin.udel.edu

I have a hard time making a keychain out of the "1 MB Mac II" upgrade I got
just when the memory crunch was at its peak, $280 for 4 256k simms..

a $70 keychain.... :(


-- 
                                        Yoram Yifrah -- uyyifrah@mcs.drexel.edu

"I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore!"
                                               -- Howard Beal, UBS Network News
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: RUSHING@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu
Subject: Upgrade Original LaserWriter RAM to what?
Organization: SYSTEMS & COMPUTING
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 19:44:14 PDT

The manuals for the original version of the Apple LaserWriter
in my lab are long gone.  Can anyone tell me what RAM (or ROM)
upgrades are possible and approximate guesstimate at price?
 
              Tim Rushing (rushing@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu)
 
From: marki@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com (Mark Ikemoto)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:47:47 GMT
Subject: Re: need advice on Mac IIsi simm upgrade
Organization: HP CCSY, Cupertino, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware

Thanks to all for the Notes and e-mail responses to my query.  Much
appreciated!



Mark
From: jb6o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jason Andrew Barshay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Mac OS vs DOS
Date: 20 Aug 92 04:15:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.AeYsnoK00XQUNSakYS
	<1992Aug19.135611.12277@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
Organization: Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


>What do you think the diff is between Windows (face for DOS) and the MacOS (
>face for God-knows-what)?

First of all, let's straighten a few things out.  What you see when you
use your Macintosh is not the Mac OS.  It is a graphical user interface
to the Mac OS (like MS Windows is a graphical user interface to DOS).  I
think we all agree that DOS is a pain because of its many limitations
but the Mac OS has a lot of downsides too.  Neither of them is a very
intelligent operating system.  Eventually it is rumored that Apple is
going to rewrite system 7 in a new micro kernal based architecture. 
What this technical mumbo jumbo means is that the new system 7 will be a
much smarter operating system like Unix (this is also the goal of
Windows NT).  Due to the new features that this system 7 operating
system would offer, things like unrecoverable system errors should
disappear (when an appplictation goes haywire, instead of crashing the
entire computer, the application itself will just die).  I personally
love the Macintosh user interface its operating system and Mac OS is
probably better than DOS in several ways but it still is very lacking in
others.

Just my two cents.
Jason

BTW, one severe limitation, in my opinion, of the current Mac OS is that
there is no command line interface to the operating system.  There are
some times when it is a real pain to have to do everthing via point and
click where it would be nicer to have a direct command line interface to
the OS (like DOS).  Eventually this (to a degree) will be offered once
Apple releases it's scripting language and interface.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: louis@well.sf.ca.us (Louis Jaffe)
Subject: Re: Quadra graphics acceleration??
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:04:43 GMT

In article <GERLACH.92Aug21041903@greyrock.greyrock.mso.colostate.edu> 
gerlach@greyrock.mso.colostate.edu (Scott Gerlach) writes:

>We're getting ready to purchase a Quadra 950 for use as a multimedia
>station in our lab on campus, and we're wondering if anyone has any
>suggestions concerning graphics accelerators for the Q 950.  My boss
>is planning on buying the Apple 16" monitor and we'd like to have
>24-bit video with fast redraws for use with demonstrations and
>displaying/creating QuickTime movies.
>
An article in September 92 MacWorld describes tests of 26 large-screen
monitors and says: "...any monitor using the Quadra's built-in video
ran faster than the same monitor using a video board."  It goes on to 
say: "...the Quadra's built-in video actually runs faster with a 16
inch monitor at 24-bit color depth.  It turns out the Quadra can send
the pixel information at 24 bits faster than it can translate the 24-bit
data into 8-bit data and then send the 8-bit data."

16 inch monitors driven by Quadra internal video had the fastest
performance of any monitor-board combination in the test.  This suggests
your boss is already getting a state-of-the-art combination and may not
need an accessory video board for now.

LJ



Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: shaase@microsoft.com (Stephen Haase)
Subject: How much memory for a IIg?
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:10:08 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

When we upgraded our laser writer to a IIg, we expected a significant speed
increase which we have yet to see.  I read somewhere that the IIg is a 
memory hog, so I was wondering how much was required for optimal printing
speed? It currently has 5 meg, which I would think would be enough, but
I could be wrongg(after all, I was wrong once before ;-) )

steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio)
Subject: How to plot HPGL drawing to PostScript laser?
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 11:42:51 GMT

Hi

can any drawing application read HPGL file and draw it to LaserWriter?
Or is there some utility to do this. 
Or maybe some text prosessing app (Word, MacWrite)

I know that in DOS MS Word one can directly read a HPGL "picture" 
into the text and print it. But how on Macintosh?

Please answer directly to me I am not reading this group regularly.
-- 
Seppo Kallio              kallio@tukki.jyu.fi      phone +358 41 603606
University of Jyvaskyla   kallio@finjyu.bitnet     telefax +358 41 603611
U of Jyvaskyla, CC        Jyvaskyla, Finland       telex Finland 28218 JYU SF
N{m{ ovat henkil|kohtaisia ajatuksiani.  These are my personal opinions. 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: zben@ni.umd.edu (Charles B. Cranston)
Subject: Re: screen adjustemnt utility
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: UM Home for the Terminally Analytical
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 00:30:54 GMT

there was a testpattern generator distributed with the
Larry Pina book (the one on the mac II, not to be confused
with the other book by same author on the original mac).

zben@ni.umd.edu     -KA3ZDF

===

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
<<< RCPT TO:<howarth@rice.edu>
<<< DATA
>>> RCPT To:<howarth@rice.edu>
<<< 550 <howarth@rice.edu>... User unknown
550 <howarth@rice.edu>... User unknown
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^     ^^^^^^^^^^^^

===

From: howarth@rice.edu (Jack W. Howarth)
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: screen adjustemnt utility
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:10:22 GMT

  Could someone point out the ftp site, directory and filename of a
Mac utility to help adjust your screen. I though there was such a 
beast out there which help set the screen size, etc but I can't
seem to find it...
                  Jack
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.hardware:15435 comp.sys.mac.misc:14993 comp.sys.mac.wanted:7621 misc.forsale.computers:30148