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From: lulu@COOMBS.ANU.EDU.AU
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Subject: AUS-ASIA:Senior science posts to increase Asia ties
Date: 15 Oct 92 05:39:04 GMT
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A small news item, but I think a significant indication of Australia's
'weaning' away from the Anglo-American diplomatic and trade links, and
focusing on developing closer and stronger relations with countries in the
region in which Australia is, after all, geographically placed.
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[Canberra Times, 15 Oct 1992]

SENIOR SCIENCE POSTS TO INCREASE ASIA TIES

Two senior Australian Government science posts till almost certainly be
moved from Europe to Malaysia and Indonesia early ext year as part of a
push by the Prime Minister, Paul Keating, for greater cultural and economic
ties with Asia.
   Australia has six science counsellors attached to its overseas
embassies, four in Europe, one in the United States, but only one - at the
Tokyo embassy - in Asia.
   The federal Minister for Science, Ross Free, has endorsed a review by
the Department of Industry, Technology and Commerce which recommends that
new science posts should be attached to embassies within the Association of
South East Asian Nations.
   The new counsellors will almost certainly be based in Kuala Lumpur and
Jakarta, and two existing posts - probably in Europe - will have to close
to fund the new positions...[text edited out by poster]

   Mr Free has repeatedly signalled that Australia will strongly pursue
increased scientific links with Asia in coming months. In November Sydney
will host a high-level meeting of Asian science ministers from throughout
the region.
   The meeting of the Association for Science Cooperation in Asia follows a
series of regioal meetings and agreements on science involving Asia,
including the signing of a memorandum of understanding with Vietnam for
science and technology cooperation, and an agreement with China to use
CSIRO technology to help improve that countr's water supply.
*[written by David Mussared]
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Lulu Turner
Dept of Political & Social Change
Research School of Pacific Studies
Australian National University
GPO Box 4, Canberra  ACT 2601
AUSTRALIA

tel: (06) 249 0173
fax: (06) 257 1893
e-mail (Internet): lulu@coombs.anu.edu.au
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:20:07 +1000
From:         lulu@COOMBS.ANU.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: BOUG/PNG

>BOUG/PNG -- News request
>
>Does anybody out there have anything current on the Bougainville crisis?
>I haven't seen a posting for a while, and my most recent looks at PNG news-
>papers [about a month out of date] suggest that the BRA has broken up and
>that PNG security forces think they'll have the island shortly under control.
>
>Can anybody add to or correct this?
>
>Dan Jorgensen          			jorgensen@vaxr.sscl.uwo.ca
>Department of Anthropology
>University of Western Ontario
>London, Ontario, CANADA

The BRA has indeed gone into disarray, although there are pockets of
'resistance' still dominating the areas around the minesite in Central
Bougainville - although some of these small groups have been engaged in no
more than common 'rascalism' or banditry. There are moves towards a peace
settlement, but the PNG forces continue to maintain their security forces
on the island, and a blockade around Bougainville is still in force,
presenting obstacles to the supply of basic services and supplies to
Central Bougainville.

Our department recently held a one-day conference on Bougainville aimed at
exploring avenues to a resolution of the conflict. We were fortunate to
have had speakers representing the secessionists, the interim authority and
the PNG government. Although no definite solution to the conflict, all were
in agreement that meeting in an environment free of tension and hostility
was a positive thing; all agreed on the urgency of a settlement.

I shall post reports on the conference this week.
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Lulu Turner
Dept of Political & Social Change
Research School of Pacific Studies
Australian National University
GPO Box 4, Canberra  ACT 2601
AUSTRALIA

tel: (06) 249 0173
fax: (06) 257 1893
e-mail (Internet): lulu@coombs.anu.edu.au
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 10:13:20 -0400
From:         Djoko Wirosoetisno <djoko@RAINBOW.PHYSICS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      Re: Woow ...

   Sorry if people get two copies of this article, but I think
our mailer is acting up :

   I haven't seen many inntelligent comments from Indonesians on
this East Timor issue, so here's my .0001% worth :

   Parikesit wrote :

>    I need to ask two questions concerning these East Timor ordeal, just
>    to get a clearer picture ;
>
> 1. Why does the East Timorese is so persistent (like you say)
>    to be independent.

   Some East Timorese want to have their own country, some, however want
be part of Indonesia. We don't know what the majority opinion is because
before they had a chance to vote on this very important issue Jakarta
ordered its army to invade the region.

>    What are the benefit for them as an Independent country,

   Whether they wold be better off as an independent state or not is not
an issue, what matters is the right of a people to determine their own
future --- this is in the preamble to the Indonesian constitution, BTW.
The issue is the right to self-determination, which I hope every
Indonesian believe.

> and why being Indonesian is so bad for them ?

   I assume you're Indonesian, so let me ask you this question :
If the US invaded Indonesia, would you happily disown your identity
as an Indonesian and call yourself an American instead ? Their standard
of living is higher than Indonesia's after all.
   I would much rather keep my Indonesian citizenship, if you're
interested.

> 2. What do they have to live on as an Independent country ?

   Again, this is _not_ the issue. If they voted to be independent,
they would have to worry about their resources themselves. There is
no justification for Indonesia, according to international and
Indonesian laws, to `rescue' these poor people by occupying their land.

   - Djoko.
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:37:32 EDT
From:         MRUBYONO@SUVM.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Burma getting ready for offensive

>Message-Id:   <9210070830.AA28768@quark.sfsu.edu>
>Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:30:59 PDT
>From: "(Coban Tun)" <tun@quark.sfsu.edu>
>Subject:      Re: Buma: getting ready for offensive
>
> >Newsgroups: bit.listserv.seasia-l
> >Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:52:23 -0500
> >Sender:       Southeast Asia Discussion List <SEASIA-L@MSU.BITNET>
> >From:         Max Becherer <becherer@SUNA0.CS.UIUC.EDU>
> >Subject: Re: Burma: getting ready for offensive
>
>>     What I don't understand is why, if the West is so irritated at the Junta,
>>don't we provide the rebels with weapons ?  If I had my way, we would supply
>>them with between 500 million and 1 billion dollars in armements.
>
>Well - simple. Although US forces can take out SLORC in 72 hours,
>Why would U.S or any other country in West would put up the money
>if the helping country/countries get nothing in return? Burma isn't
>a oil-producer like Kuwait. I don't think US would want to get it's
>hand caught in South East Asia again.
>
>So much for the Bush's "New World Order".
>Coban

Good observation! A very simple and knowledgeable explanation.
Coban, you are talking as you know exactly whats going on.
I would love to read any other similar thought like this one.
Keep cool!

ruby
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 08:51:30 EDT
From:         Elliott Parker <3ZLUFUR@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Subject:      SG: Bank of China now in SIMEX

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              * * *  C h i n a   N e w s   D i g e s t  * * *

                              (News Global)

                        Friday, October 9, 1992

5. Bank of China Becomes a Member of Singapore Monetary Exchange ........40
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From: Liu Jian
Source: Japan Economic Newswire, 10/7/92

SINGAPORE -- The Singapore International Monetary Exchange (SIMEX) said
Wednesday it has granted in-principle approval to the Bank of China to
become a corporate nonclearing member, marking the Chinese bank's first
membership of a financial futures exchange.

SIMEX said the bank's entry will help the exchange tap the vast and fast
growing Chinese market, while the bank sees its membership of the exchange
as an opportunity to gain more experience in futures trading.

The bank is the first financial institution from China to become a SIMEX
corporate member.  As a nonclearing corporate member, the bank will be
allowed full trading rights but without the authority to clear trades.

The bank's admission "marks an important step in the development of
business relations between SIMEX and China," SIMEX said.

It "will facilitate the exchange's plans to tap the potentially large pool
of business arising from the rapid expansion of the economic and financial
market activities in China," it added.

Yang Huiqiu, the bank's deputy chairman and executive vice president, said
the bank chose SIMEX because of its importance in the global financial
network and the close ties between China and Singapore.

"Through SIMEX we hope to broaden our expertise in futures trading and
prepare ourselves for increased activities in the derivatives market," he
said.

On the benefits for the exchange, SIMEX President Ang Swee Tian said that
the bank's admission "not only diversifies even further our international
membership but also allows us a wider perspective in the development of our
futures business."

SIMEX has 32 corporate nonclearing members, including the new entrant.

The exchange is one of the world's most dynamic, and its trading volumes
have been surging since its formation in 1984.
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:56:06 EDT
From:         "(Erwin Brisbanuharto)" <ebrisban@CS.MTU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Timor Questions
              Oct 7, 92 8:52 pm

Mr. Max Becherer,

>  I personally do not know all the details, but certainly Indonesian
>  oppression of their culture plays a role.

Well, you speak for yourself. If you do not know the details,
why you seem so anxious about this as if you know everything
about the matter. Anyone wants to join Mr. Becherer???

>  Perhaps, if the Indonesian
>  government treated the East Timorese people less like animals and more
>  like human beings, they would be less insistant on being independant.
>  Ask an East Timorese.

I am INSULTED with your remarks here. We never treated East Timorese
like animals!!!!! Again if you do not know the details, please
DO NOT spread any rumours and DO NOT exagerate and make your own
stories.

>  Not having their culture destroyed sounds like quite a benefit to me.

Gee, do you know what East Timorese native language is???
Portuguse??? Why they speak Portuguse now???

Erwin
ebrisban@cs.mtu.edu
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From: 3ZLUFUR@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU (Elliott Parker)
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Subject: Students (F-1,M-1 visas) in hurricane areas
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:10:11 GMT
Organization: Central Michigan University
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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:39:42 EDT
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Subject:      CND-US, October 15, 1992
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                          Thursday, October 15, 1992

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>From: Amy Yenkin, NAFSA Central Office. Forwarded by Bo Xiong
Source: NAFSA Communication Network, Oct. 14, 1992

In response to Hurricane Andrew, INS recently issued a cable for
nonimmigrant students (both F-1 and M-1) in areas damaged by the hurricane
or those whose funds come from those areas.  INS has requested the
following:

1) Student schools officers should make the following adjustments to the
regulations for on and off-campus employment for students affected by the
hurricane: A) the requirement that students must have been in F-1 status
for one full academic year prior to requesting off-campus employment may be
waived; and B) the limitation of twenty hours of work per week while school
is in session may be waived for both on and off-campus employment.

2) Hurricane Andrew constitutes unforeseen circumstances applicable to
severe economic hardship requests.

3) DSOs may leniently recommend that an F-1 or M-1 student take less than a
full course of study for the current year beginning with the fall term.
Such students will remain in status.

4) Where possible, INS should expeditiously issue employment authorization
documents to students referred to in this wire.

5) A student who is admitted to begin or continue study at an approved
school and who for reasons related to the hurricane is unable to enroll for
the fall term or semester shall be recognized as in status and permitted to
enroll for the next regular term or semester without seeking reinstatement.

6) Service officers should exercise due leniency when examining
documentation or other evidence in support of student applications.

NAFSA would like to thank Judith Green of Florida International University
and Susan D'Amico of Florida Atlantic for their hard work in encouraging
INS to take the above steps and for helping to draft the language in the
cable.
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Subject: Test
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:53:00 GMT
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SSYRV1::SEASIAL "_<GMESHER@ARIZMIS.BITNET>"          20 lines  16-OCT-1992 13:45
            -< RE: Seeking info on Malaysian environmental issues >-
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Try tracking down the film (video) "Tongtana" it's  about the story of a
Swiss-German who wa living with the Penan in Sarawak, and it's very good,
and even includes interviews with Datuk James Wong, the Sarawaki Minister
for the Environment, who is also the region's largest exporter of forest
products.

You might also try sending a politely worded e-mail message to:

        postmaster@jaring.ism.my

I was in Malaysia in Sept., and while there read a newspaper article which
included an interview with Dr. M. on the environment.  To him, environmental
problems basically equalled pollution, and he recognized this as a problem,
but there is a very strong reaction against what the Malaysians consider
first world pressure on them to "sacrifice people for trees", so that
simply protecting undeveloped areas, is not viewed as a desirable
alternative.  It should be added however, that there is a Malaysian Nature
Society, and there are also about a dozen national parks and protected
areas throughout Malaysia, about half of them in Sarawak, although to
me it is only as drop in the bucket...
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:23:34 EDT
From:         "(Erwin Brisbanuharto)" <ebrisban@CS.MTU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: East Timor (Response)
              Oct 7, 92 9:10 pm

Dear Max Becherer,

> 	Are you saying that human rights are none of my business ?

Well, yes it's everyone's business. BUT, before we clean up
other problems in other people's hands. It would probably be wise
to solve our own problems first. You can, for example, get out of this
country and give your land back to Indians. It's their mother land.
Let them live happily ever after........
Oh.. by the way, have you ever meet and talked to any native American
(Indian)?? Gosh.. you should go up here and hear their sad stories.
Unfortunately, they don't wanna talk to any of you guys.
They did talk with me though. They did tell their stories to me..
They did give me some warnings... Too bad you did not hear the stories..
You are too busy bugging down other people business.

Have you tried to improve the lifes of those Indians???
It would be really easy and you don't have to upset anybody else.
You don't have to fill up other's mail box.
Think about it... You can be proud of yourself because you
do something wonderful without hurting anybody else.

I know we have have some problems in East Timor. Everybody knows that.
I know my government does the best things for both East Timorese
and their neighbours. We, Indonesians, know and respect human values.
We regret for what happen on Nov 12, 1991 and other incidents in East Timor.
We don't want those to happen because, again, we, Indonesians, know and
respect human values. And I know you guys also know and respect
human values. I am sure you will be aware and solve your own problems.

Let us solve our own problems. Let us make the world a perfect place
to live for all human beings (including the East Timorese and the Indians).

Ameen...

Truthfully yours,
Erwin
ebrisban@cs.mtu.edu
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Date:         Sat, 10 Oct 1992 22:42:00 EDT
From:         AWALKER@OHSTMVSA.BITNET
Subject:      TWO NEW PUBLICATIONS FROM 'CONTRIBUTIONS TO SE ASIAN ETHNOGRAPHY"

The following new publications are now available from:CONTRIBUTIONS TO
SOUTHEAST ASIAN ETHNOGRAPHY (217B LORD HALL, THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY,
124 WEST 17 Av., COLUMBUS, OHIO 43210-1364)
 1. CONTRIBUTIONS TO SOUTHEAST ASIAN ETHNOGRAPHY No. 9, THE PRESERVATION
AND ADAPTATION OF TRADITION :Studies of Chinese Religious Expression in
Southeast Asia, Tan Chee Beng (University of Malaya), editor.This issue
contains the following articles (a) Chinese Religion and Local Chinese
Communities in Malaysia, (b) The Cult of Mazu in Peninsular Malaysia,
(c) Religious Syncretism among Chinese in the Philippines, (d) Chinese
Clan Associations and Religious Activities in Penang, (d) Death Rituals
and Ideas of Pollution among Chinese In Singapre, (e) Agama Buddha
Maitreya: A Modern Buddhist Sect in Indonesia, (f) Pavilioned in
Spendour: Interregional and Intersectarian Dynamics in a Singapoream
Plamchette Society.
 2. THE HIGHLAND HERITAGE: COLLECTED ESSAYS ON UPLAND NORTH THAILAND,
Anthony R. Walker (The Ohio State University), editor. This book
contains the following chapters, (a) Northern Thailand as Geo-ethnic
Mosaic, (b) Economic Systems & Ethnic Relations, (c) Opium: Its
Production and Use in a Lahu Nyi Village Community, (d) Akha
Ethnobotany, (e) The Movement of Lahu People towards a Lowland Life
Style, (f)Basic Themes in Akha Culture, (g) The Mlabri People,
(h) Lahu Nyi Village Officials, (i) Religious Life of the Yao People,
(j) Lisu World View, (k) Exorcising Jaw  and Meh Spirits among Lahu Nyi
(l) Transformations of Buddhism among Lahu.
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is $1.00 for first copy, 50 cents for each additional copy. Postage for
Highland Heritage is $2.00 for first copy, $1.00 for each additional
copy.
A.R. Walker, editorial Office, Contributions to SE Asian Ethnography
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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:31:52 PDT
From:         "(Coban Tun)" <tun@QUARK.SFSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: ANYTHING ON ASEAN IN 1992?

 >Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1992 12:16:44 -0300
 >Sender:       Southeast Asia Discussion List <SEASIA-L@MSU.BITNET>
 >From:         ZAIGI@AC.DAL.CA
 >Subject:      ANYTHING ON ASEAN IN 1992?

 >Hi SEASIA-Lers,
 >How can I retreive anything on asean broadcasted in SEASIA-L, SEANET-L in
 >1992? If you keep anything on ASEAN in your file and can forward to me, it
 >will be very nice too. Thanks a lot in advance.
 >Nick

Send a SEARCH command to listserv@msu.edu for SEASIA-L and you will find
any articles that contained 'ASEAN' or whatever string you are searching.
IMHO, most, if not all the materials are on ASEAN since this is seasia-l
list.

Coban
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:41:45 -0500
From:         Max Becherer <becherer@SUNA0.CS.UIUC.EDU>
Subject:      Sorry about the repeat

    That's strange, a message I posted over a week ago (Re: Wooowww....) just
got distributed over the Net.  The list server at Missouri State University
(One of SEASIA-L's backbones) was acting up a while ago.  It must have been
inadvertantly resent.  I'm sorry if there was any confusion.

                              Max.
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