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From: williams@nvl.army.mil (Timothy Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: copying procedures in cantata
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:23:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.41009

1. I have khoros 1.5 running on a Solbourne S4000 sparcstation and am trying to
use procedures in cantata.  I created a small procedure called "image size"
which contains the following glyphs:

vfileinfo -> generic command -> asc2viff.

generic command contains

grep 'Number of pixels' | awk '{print $6,$9}'

and asc2viff puts this in a 2 banded 1x1 image.  (Many thanks to Hu Yuchou
yuchou@seahawk.lanl.gov for this idea.)

This works just fine.  I connect this to a conversion routine we have to
convert to VIFF format and put the size into two variables with two calls to
varviff.  I'd like to do this with another image in my workspace, so I try
to copy the glyph.  The procedure's glyph gets copied, but all that is in it
is vfileinfo.

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OTHER TWO?

What is the proper way to copy a procedure?

2.  Another question.  In the course of developing a visual program, I
created some variables.  As this program evolved, I created new variables,
and don't need the original ones anymore.  How do I get rid of them?  I
would rather not delete the entire workspace and start from scratch.

Thanks for any help.
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From: ttu@hogpa.ho.att.com (Thomas P Tu +1 908 615 4149)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: New Email Address
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:31:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.41031


Please update my new email address.

	ttu@hogpa.ho.att.com



Thanks.


Thomas P. Tu
(908) 615-4149
ttu@hogpa.ho.att.com
From: record@aragtap.den.mmc.com (Jim Record)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: mailing list request
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:43:02 GMT

Please add me to the digest mailing.
I am a user of Khoros.
Jim Record
Martin Marietta DS&C                  ARPA: record@aragtap.den.mmc.com
(303)977-0523                         UUCP: ...!mmc!aragtap!record
From: ahauter@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Andrew Hauter)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: xprism3 execution problem
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:15:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.40974

I recently acquired Khoros last week and
I am very pleased with how easy all the 
applications are to run and to use.
    However, Xprism3 returns a segmentation
fault and I can't ascertain the problem.
I was wondering if anyone might have any
suggestions, please let me know.  We are
running Khoros in Sparcstation IPC, SunOS 
4.1.2, and OpenWindows 3.0.
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: vdp@mayo.edu (Vinayak Dutt)
Subject: Re: editimage + GUI colourmap in OpenWindows FA
Reply-To: vdp@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Foundation/Mayo Graduate School :Rochester, MN
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 14:14:23 GMT

In article 23336@galen.physiolgalen.physiol, ph@physiology.oxford.ac.uk (Patrick Haggard) writes:
:
:Hi.  We upgraded our Sparc2 to OpenWindows 3.0, hoping to get rid of
:the dreaded editimage colourchanging syndrome.  Now we find that 
:the image colourmap is indeed stable, but the GUI colours still get
:trashed depending on where the cursor is.  Anybody else find this, or
:suggest a workround?  Is it still the case that you're better using
:GUI objects that don't have too many colours (I guess I could dither
:my root screen image)?
:

Yes, you still have only 256 colours to play with. So if large number of
colour cells are already gone, then there is no choice but to use private
colourmap, and hence the colour flashing :(


Vinayak Dutt
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                                           vinayak dutt
            Medical Sciences Building (2)   Mayo Clinic
                                     Rochester MN 55905
                                   e-mail: vdp@mayo.edu
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From: HERR@embl-heidelberg.de (STEFAN HERR)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: converter xxx2pict
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:10:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.40910

Hi,

I am looking for an converter that perferable converts viff2pict files. Maybe 
someone can give me in addition a hint where I could find some documentation
about the pict file format. Thanks in for your help in advance

---Stefan

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From: ph@physiology.oxford.ac.uk (Patrick Haggard)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: More morpho toolbox!
Date: 7 Oct 92 08:49:21 GMT
Organization: Physiology Department, Oxford University, Oxford, UK.
Originator: ph@galen.physiol


Hi.  Yet more about the morpho toolbox.  The good news is that it 
compiles without trouble: thanks very much.  The bad news is that
vgdiskse still doesn't want to work.  vgdiskse doesn't seem to get
information about the input data type correctly, either from the
cantata checkbox, or from the -t option in the CLUI.  This is while
using the vgdiskse.prog fix mentioned in the previous mail:

excerpt follows:
-----
prompt% vgdiskse -o /usr/tmp/vgdisGAAa19752 -d 15 -origin 0 -x 8 -y 8 -b -
1 -f 0 -t byte
lvgdiskse: Unsupported data storage type requested
         Supported types: INT and BYTE
lvgdiskse Failed
prompt% 
-----
Somewhere the argument is not getting through 8-)

By the way.  It would be really useful if an example workspace
(perhaps using one of the supplied image.xv datafile) could be made
available with the toolbox, to demonstrate the operation of the
routines.

Thankyou
------------------------------------------------------------

Patrick Haggard,
Oxford University Laboratory of Physiology,
Parks Road,
Oxford,
OX1 3PT
England

Tel. (0865) 272116
Fax. (0865) 272469
Email (JANET): ph@uk.ac.ox.physiol
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From: sauer@chama.eece.unm.edu (Tom Sauer)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: cantata dies under bus error
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:09:33 GMT

Hi Henry, 

I don't have any solutions for you. Everthing in your config file looks fine.
Try linking Cantata statically and see it you have the same problem.
I think it must have to do with resolving library references.

Good luck,

Tom


On Oct 7, 23:12, Henry Katz wrote:
} Subject: cantata dies under bus error
>> Greetings dear Khoros User!!
>> 
>> Can someone please save me the trouble of dbx'ing cantata: my copy dies:
>> 
>> >immagini:56 cantata&
>> >[1] 23616
>> >immagini:57 
>> >Error! The following cantata error has occurred:
>> >        Bus error...
>> 
>> I am on SS1+ under OW 3.0 or X11r5, SunOs 4.1.2 using 4.1.1 ld and had my
>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH = 
>> >immagini:55 setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH '/usr/local/lib:/usr/lib:/home2/src/khoros/l
>> ib:/usr/openwin/lib'
>> 
>> Thanks again,
>> 
>> Henry Katz
>> Mt. Sinai Medical Center, NY
>> Brain Imaging Center
>> 
>> hkatz@nucmed10.med.nyu.edu
}-- End of excerpt from Henry Katz


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From: skudo@atlas.rc.m-kasei.co.jp (Shigeki KUDO)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: user survey contacts
Date: 14 Oct 92 09:16:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.40969


  Dear Khoros 

  Hello.I am grad to send you a e-mail.
   Now ,I have very interested in your Khoros.
  I hope to see the demonstration of Khoros in Japan.
  So,I ask for someone in Jpan to contact me.   
  Please,tell me the contact address ?
  I hope  your kindly answer.
 
  sincerly yours.

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                     Mitsubishi Kasei Corporation
                     Computational Science Laboratory
                     Reserch Center
$@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(J Shigeki Kudo 045 963-3258  (^_^)$@!!(J    
                       E_mail:skudo@atlas.rc.m-kasei.co.jp
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From: janin@espresso.boeing.com (Adam Janin 5-3545)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Temp files
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:41:56 GMT

kahn@pansy.eece.unm.edu. (Roger Kahn) writes:

>  can I specify where khoros should store its intermediate files,
>  currently it stores them in /var/tmp but I want them to be
>  stored in /tmp

Yes.  Set the environment variable TMPDIR to where you want files to
be stored.  e.g. with csh:

setenv TMPDIR /tmp


	Adam Janin
	janin@espresso.boeing.com
From: sauer@chama.eece.unm.edu (Tom Sauer)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: Is this already available in Khoros?
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:57:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.40881

Hi Steve,


On Oct 7, 14:35, Steve Wampler wrote:
} Subject: Is this already available in Khoros?
>> I just got a call from someone studying sand bars in the Grand Canyon.
>> They have photographs (over time) of parts of the canyon floor, taken
>> at an oblique angle (the reference point is known, so any necessary
>> angles and distances can be given).  They want to 'rectify' the
>> photographs to a vertical view and then do feature area analysis to
>> check for changes in the sand bars.
>> 
>> Now, I know diddly about image processing.  Is there an existing
>> Khoros routine that would do the rectification?  I know Khoros can
>> do the other just fine...

Khoros include an interactive warping and rectification application
called warpimage. Also, there is a nice suite of feature extraction
routines and classification routines in Khoros.

We can send you a couple of journal papers if it would help. Mail
khoros-request@chama.eece.unm.edu and request the NGL and DSP
classification papers. Please include your postal mailing address.


>> 
>> -- 
>> 	Steve Wampler
>> 	{....!arizona!naucse!sbw}
>> 	{sbw@turing.cse.nau.edu}
}-- End of excerpt from Steve Wampler

Good luck,

Tom
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: rick@msc.cornell.edu (Rick Cochran)
Subject: Re: strange source code at Patch 5
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 00:20:05 GMT

My error.  I had KHOROS_HOME pointing to a copy of Patch 4.

How embarrassing.

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|Cornell Materials Science Center		     rick@crnlmsc2.bitnet|
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From: donna@peabody.eece.unm.edu (Donna Koechner-G)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: temp files
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:29:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.40889

On Oct 7,  8:20am, Adam Janin 5-3545 wrote:
} Subject: Temp files
} kahn@pansy.eece.unm.edu. (Roger Kahn) writes:
} 
} >  can I specify where khoros should store its intermediate files,
} >  currently it stores them in /var/tmp but I want them to be
} >  stored in /tmp
} 
} Yes.  Set the environment variable TMPDIR to where you want files to
} be stored.  e.g. with csh:
} 
} setenv TMPDIR /tmp
} 
} 
} 	Adam Janin
} 	janin@espresso.boeing.com
} 
} 
}-- End of excerpt from Adam Janin 5-3545

The temporary directory can also be changed from within cantata on
the Workspace/File Utilities Subform (Temporary Files).

Donna
From: "Mario Errico" <errico@staff.tc.umn.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Converting DEM files
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:35:20 GMT

Hello everyone,

I need to convert a file to DEM format (digital elevation map).  I believe 
Khoros can do the opposite (dem2viff) only.  Does anyone know of a routine 
available to convert from something to DEM ?  (I explored all the existing pd 
imaging toolkits-rle, sdsc, urt, pbmplus-without finding one).  I suppose I 
could look at the dem2viff code in khoros and write one, but...why reinventing 
the wheel?

Thanks a lot,

Mario



Mario Errico, Research Associate
Real-Time Imaging
Center for Interfacial Engineering
University of Minnesota
Minneapolis
From: leo@biomed.ee.ethz.ch
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: AVS and khoros
Date: 7 Oct 92 08:58:03 GMT



in "AVS and khoros" e.j. holupka asks:

>Hello All,
>I have an AVS/Khoros question. I am attempting to compile an AVS 
>module for edge detection which utilizes the khoros library routines.
>I do not have the trillion meg of disk space to install the library. 
>The module calls three routines which I assume are in the khoros 
>distribution. They are expfilter(), gradadp(), and threshold(). Is it 
>possible to just extract these routines from the khoros distribution??
>I have loked at an Index for khoros and didn't see them. Am I doing 
>something wrong? If anybody knows where the source for these routines 
>are located could you please drop me a line. My address is 
>	holupka@snips.dfci.harvard.edu
>Thanks in advance.


take a look at the file "/usr/local/khoros/src/Lib/vmath/isef.c".
there you will find the source code for the three routines.

good luck

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Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: ytang@red.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Yuan-Ling Tang)
Subject: Using khoros 'variable'
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:43:59 GMT


A question:

    I wonder whether or not I can grep the khoros variable in shell 
    command or in my program.  What I am trying to do is to use a 
    'count_loop' with an incrementing variable, say k, then invoke a shell
    command or my program using 'generic command'. The problem is how
    to pass the khoros variable to generic command? I tried to pass '$k'
    to the command, but the shell complained about 'undefined variable.'
    It turns out that the variable is interpreted by the shell instead
    of the khoros. So how should I do it? Do I have to integrate my 
    program into khoros to solve the problem (hope not)? Any suggestion 
    will be appreciated. By the way, how exactly does khoros pass the 
    variable around?

- Tang

Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: jecome01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Eric Comer)
Subject: who do you feel
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:55:21 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

i just started the long long road of image processing and wanted some 
opinions on khoros as an image processing tool.  are there any other 
image processing tools available on the network?  

thanks 

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From: danielle@chama.eece.unm.edu (Danielle Argiro)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: To the Khoros User Community
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:47:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.41034


	Hi there,

	This is to let you know that a large segment of the Khoros Group
	at UNM (John Rasure, Tom Sauer, Mark Young, Donna Koechner, 
	Becky Bishop, Carla Williams, and myself) will be at the Visualization
	'92 Conference in Boston for the next week;  we will not have mail
	access with which to respond to the mailing list / news group. 

	We are always very glad to see people responding to each others' 
	questions.  In addition to allowing us to really concentrate on
	Khoros 2.0,  your answers to the questions of others further 
	attest to the maturity and integrity of our news group.  I'd like 
	to take this opportunity to extend our gratitude to those who
	are willing to take a little time out of their day and answer the
	questions of others.  

	I'd also like to request that when you do answer the mail of others, 
	that you also send a carbon copy of your letters to 
	khoros@chama.eece.unm.edu.  I realize that many people prefer to 
	correspond in private, but there are two reasons that really make 
	it valuable to us when you respond to the group at large.  

	First, any time a question is answered, there is a very good chance 
	that many other people besides the one you are mailing to 
	will be interested in the answer;  they also deserve the opportunity to
	learn from your experience.  Secondly, when people respond directly 
	and do not cc the mailing list,	it is very difficult for us to track 
	who has received an answer and who has not.   We don't know whether 
	someone has gotten help, or whether they are still fighting with the 
	same problem but have not mailed a "repost".  Thus, both we at UNM and 
	the Khoros community are aided by a copy of your responses.

 	We sincerely appreciate your support of the Khoros Group, and thank
	you for your participation in making this news group a success!!

		~ danielle

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       ~   Software Design & Development, The Khoros Group      ~
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From: nobody@kodak.com (Mike Bruce)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Fine-Tuning KHOROS
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:20:31 GMT

Khoros users,

I have been successful in bulding Khoros on my Sun SPARCstation,
SunOS 4.1.2, running OpenWindows 3.0.  Now, I'd like to try to
modify some of the flags in the sun.cf file to try and improve
the performance of Khoros.  Before I go off and start making
changes, I thought I'd ask a few questions regarding data transports.

When I originally built Khoros, the settings in my sun.cf file were:

#define UseFile		YES
#define UseSockets	YES
#define UseSharedMem	YES
#define UseSunVirMem	NO
#define UsePipes	NO
#define UseStream	NO
#define UseSunRPC	NO
#define UseKTLI		NO
#define UseApolloRPC	NO

Since I have little idea what all of these mean, could somebody out
there provide some advice as to how the flags might be set to
improve the performance.

Also, I'm running Khoros on my own platform.  When I built
Khoros, I had the HaveSunPatchLd set to YES, which meant that the
HasSharedLibraries stuff was never incorporated (based on the
#if OSMajorVersion >= 4 && ! HaveSunPatchLd).  Is there any benefit
(in terms of performance) to using shared libraries?  If so, should
I set the HavePatchLd to NO?


Please respond directly to bruce@ektron.kodak.com, since "reply" mail
doesn't reach me.

Thanks,

Mike Bruce
From: ph@physiology.oxford.ac.uk (Patrick Haggard)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re. Preparing for K2 (LONGish)
Date: 15 Oct 92 11:22:40 GMT
Organization: Physiology Department, Oxford University, Oxford, UK.
Originator: ph@galen.physiol

Many thanks for this helpful comment from Wes Bethel.  I look forward
to hearing more.  Perhaps people who are attending Vis92 can summarise
any relevant material they hear there about khoros and k2 for those
of us who can't attend.
Cheers.
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From: cheryl@pintobean.lanl.gov (Cheryl Rodriguez)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: IEEE Visualization Conference
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:29:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.41007


Could you send me a phone number for conference registration
(IEEE Visualization Conference, Boston, Oct 19 - 23, 1992) ??

Cheryl Rodriguez
cheryl@tardis.lanl.gov
667-9058

Thanks...
From: murdoch@bio-medical-physics.aberdeen.ac.uk (m.y.norton)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: interactive variables in cantata
Date: 8 Oct 92 09:33:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.40873

hello,

  we are new to khoros and are having problems setting file names
without hard wiring the name into the routines in cantata. There does
not seem to be a glyph for input from the keyboard.

ie i wish to read in files, process them and interactively save the
resultant image in a file whose name i set as the program is running.

I just want pointing in the right direction (an example??) it doesn't
have to be filenames, it might be setting a parameter for extracting a
sub-image and so on.

I am not on the khoros mailing list yet so could any replies be sent
to me and I will summarise to the list.


thanks for any help.


murdoch@uk.ac.abdn.biomed
From: donna@peabody.eece.unm.edu (Donna Koechner-G)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: copying procedures in cantata
Date: 16 Oct 92 23:33:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.41037

On Oct 15,  4:06pm, Timothy Williams wrote:
} Subject: copying procedures in cantata
} 1. I have khoros 1.5 running on a Solbourne S4000 sparcstation and am trying to
} use procedures in cantata.  I created a small procedure called "image size"
} which contains the following glyphs:
} 
} vfileinfo -> generic command -> asc2viff.
} 
} generic command contains
} 
} grep 'Number of pixels' | awk '{print $6,$9}'
} 
} and asc2viff puts this in a 2 banded 1x1 image.  (Many thanks to Hu Yuchou
} yuchou@seahawk.lanl.gov for this idea.)
} 
} This works just fine.  I connect this to a conversion routine we have to
} convert to VIFF format and put the size into two variables with two calls to
} varviff.  I'd like to do this with another image in my workspace, so I try
} to copy the glyph.  The procedure's glyph gets copied, but all that is in it
} is vfileinfo.
} 
} WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OTHER TWO?

I'm not sure if this will help.  Do a check on the workspace -- sometimes 
the routines get put in an undisplayed area of the subprocedure.

} 
} What is the proper way to copy a procedure?
} 
} 2.  Another question.  In the course of developing a visual program, I
} created some variables.  As this program evolved, I created new variables,
} and don't need the original ones anymore.  How do I get rid of them?  I
} would rather not delete the entire workspace and start from scratch.

You cannot delete the variables within cantata, but you can edit the saved
workspace file and search for the variable and remove/change it there.

Donna Koechner

} 
} Thanks for any help.
} -- 
} Tim Williams                                   COM: (703) 704-1685
} Night Vision & Electro-Optics Directorate      DSN: 654-1685
} AMSEL-RD-NV-ISP (Williams)                     FAX: (703) 704-1705
} Ft. Belvoir, VA 22060-5677                  E-MAIL: williams@nvl.army.mil
}-- End of excerpt from Timothy Williams