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From: wlay@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Radio 90.1 FM WLAY Tarkington Hall)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bills vs. Cowboys, a UK perspective
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:22:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.C1ItGz.BvE
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

>Reading some of these articles on this net from so-called American football
>experts and been amazed by the ignorance of reality.  
>
>FACT:
>----
>Cowboys vs the Niners was the real superbowl
>The Superbowl is just the honeymoon for the NFC Champs
>The 3rd & 4th Best teams  were the Eagles and Saints
>5th & 6th Were Washington and Minnasota
>Buffalo are 7th on a good day
>the Boyz are going to blow the bills away.
>The NFL have got to look at the way the league is structured
>(i.e. swap the 49ers with Pheonix, keep the NFC East and make the rest of the
>league go and play college football.
>

just one minute, asshole.... here are the FACTS (aside from who beat whom on what 
weekend) about the 1992 NFL season...    

(1) the 49ers own the best regular season record
(2) the Cowboys are the NFC champions 
(3) the Bills are the AFC champions
(4) whoever wins the SB will be the NFL champions

anything else (i.e. your entire post) is PURE SPECULATION!!!!!!
get a clue.....

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From: reams@crchh462.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Cary Reams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Candlestick Crowd
Date: 18 Jan 93 19:14:05 GMT
Reply-To: reams@bnr.ca
Organization: NT/BNR


Lots of credit to the Candlestick Crowd for not 
starting a 'We Want Joe' chant or a refrain of
'Steve Must Goooo' (to the tune of that timeless
classic - 'Ray Must Goooo'). This is probably a 
good signal that the 49'ers do belong to Steve 
Young, not St. Joe. (Credit to Montana for not
creating a larger controversy in December and
January.)

At least I did not hear anything from my warm, 
dry arm-chair vantage point in North Dallas.  

I thought Young had a respectable game. His two
interceptions only finished off what was happening
in the game. They were crucial, not pivotal.

Helluva game. Couldn't count either team out until
the clock read 0:00. Here's hoping the Boyz can
bring it home for the NFC, again.

****

while we're doling out credit; noted are the acknowledgements
and class of net.49ers.barflys* (JPGloria included). 


barfly - as used here; active supporter and promoter of undying
loyalty. 

-- 
Cary W Reams | Austin College Kangaroos
NT/BNR/MTXVO | Hopper Express & the Runnin' `Roos
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From: glb50263@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Gary L. Blickhan)
Subject: Head-to-head
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:18:17 GMT
Keywords: Bills

Although this game is not necessarily indicative of Super Bowl 27, it is
interesting to note the last head-to-head game (if I am not mistaken)
between the Cowboys and the Bills.


1984, week 12

Dallas Cowboys 7-4  Coach:Tom Landry

Notable players: Danny White, Tony Dorsett, Mike Renfro, Doug Cosbie,
Rafael Septien, Eugene Lockhart, Everson Walls, Jim Jeffcoat, Ed "Too
Tall" Jones, Randy White.

Buffalo Bills 0-11  Coach: Kay Stephenson

Notable players: Joe Ferguson, Robb Riddick, Greg Bell, Byron Franklin, 
John Kidd, Chuck Nelson, Eugene Marve, Lucius Sanford, Darryl Talley,,
Charles Romes, Jim Ritcher, Fred Smerlas. 

The score says it all:  BUFFALO 14, DALLAS 3.

(Whatever happened to Roosevelt Leaks, anyway?)

Near the end of the season, Dallas gives Buffalo their first win of the
season. 

-- 
Gary Blickhan --Go Bills!!!   Before Bo Jackson, there was the one and only
Stormin' GORMAN THOMAS!  He played baseball, football, basketball, track,
bowling, billiards, golf, and then some.  (not all professionally, of course.)
He didn't endorse a company because he'd have to wear all those shoes at once!.
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: dallas over bills
Date: 24 Jan 93 03:58:55 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1993Jan23.233632.64039@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> mrn3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu 
(MATTHEW R. NARBY) writes:
>
>Also, was it the consistant Cowwimps who lost to the Eagles? Well,
>rather, embarrassed by the Eagles? Didn't the Cowgirls also lose to the
>Cardnals? And who had to play the #2 toughest schedule? wasn't the Cowwimps. I
>
> 
>-- 
>-Matthew Narby-
>

Uh-oh... look out Matt.  You are about to be "reminded" about the Bills losses
to the Colts, Dolphins and Jets... SIGH!!  I just hope it ain't a blowout by
either side.

satish nair
giants




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I NEED SUPER BOWL TICKETS!

Any bummed out 49er fans who have tickets to the Super Bowl that would
like to sell them, please let me know.  

I have some friends who are Bills fans that live
back east and are finding that a ticket in Buffalo is going for $700!

If you can help me find 1 or 2 or 3 tickets, please drop me a reply.

Thanks

Howard Lynch
hl@hpocia.sj.hp.com
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From: matjmm@gsusgi1.gsu.edu (J. Morgan Morris)
Subject: Re: Superbowl Hype
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:11:24 GMT

mrn3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MATTHEW R. NARBY) writes:

>>Prediction  Dallas  38

>>            Buffalo 10
>very unlikely. IF Dallas wins, it will be a LOT closer. Dallas only managed 30
>points against the 49ers, while the Bills managed to score 34.

It depends what you mean by closer...the Cowboys beat the 49ers by 10 points,
Buffalo won by three.

>Why? Because our offense can pick apart any defense it cares to, no matter how
>good. 

Perhaps. They haven't played the #1 defense yet.

> Troy Aikman? Marino is a better QB with
>a better passing game surrounding him. Yet he was destroyed by
>the Bills. 

By what measure was Marino a better quarterback. Seen the qb ratings????


>So shut up. You should be
>thanking your lucky stars that Dallas even made it to the Super Bowl,
>considering the Stiff competition you so nobly speak of. All I can say is,
>SHUT UP!! 

He may shut up, but I won't. Dallas has clearly earned a shot in the 
Super Bowl by (1) emerging as the champion of what is recognized as the
NFL's toughest division  (heh heh...can you say Giants? Redskins? Or have you
blocked it out...) and (2) beating the only team with a better record on the
road.

>you can brag all you want to when you've been to the championship
>game 4 of 5, winning three in a row, having defeated every team in the NFL
>over the last three years. You Can brag IF, and this is a VERY BIG IF, you win
>the superbowl.

Ah, history you want? The Cowboys definitely have it, eh? At least we've *won*
Super Bowls before.

(Of course, nothing I say means that Dallas will win this time!)


Anyway, good luck in the Super Bowl,
Morgan


-- 

John Morgan Morris
Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
Georgia State University
University Plaza
Atlanta, GA. 30303-3083

Internet: matjmm@gsusgi1.gsu.edu
Telephone: (404) 651-2253
FAX: (404) 651-2246
From: mrn3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MATTHEW R. NARBY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bills vs Dolphins (AFC Championship)
Date: 21 Jan 93 02:22:57 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <C14r3q.B5z@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (
Michael P. Colburn) writes:
>In article <C14p05.4w1@acsu.buffalo.edu>
>kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist) writes:
>
>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the Bills could have tied another
>> Miami record, 5 consecutive AFC East titles.
>
>Actually, Miami has only a record of 4 consecutive AFC East titles:
>'71, '72, '73 & '74.  They had an opportunity for 5 in '75 when they
>were tied with Baltimore, both with 10-4 records, however the Colts
>swept both games with the Dolphins that year.  Looks like your Bills
>own this record, Jim!
So then it is a tie, four in a row.
>
>Mike Colburn                         =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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>Land of the Lost (er...Giants)
>
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-Matthew Narby-
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Orchard Park, N.Y.
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Rich Stadium
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From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Mike Nolan
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:28:05 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: University of Pennsylvania



Hi,

Can any Bronco fan provide me with some information on former defensive
coordinator Mike Nolan?  Apparently, he's Dan Reeves' choice for D coordinator
at NY now that Wade Phillips is head honcho in Denver.  Thanks,

satish nair
giants

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From: ric@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (ricardo.g.irvin)
Subject: a GIANTS fan rambles on. was Re: Wannstedt to Chicago
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:11:42 GMT

In article <105662@netnews.upenn.edu> satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
>In article <3371@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch) writes:
>>
>>
>>Whew, I'm glad he didn't go to New York, because then I'd have to have
>>some good feelings about the Giants.  But da Bears, I've always loved
>>
>>Why don't they just wait and do the deal after the Super Bowl?
>>
>>Daniel Welch
>
>Because this was the same sort of idiocy which ended up costing the Gs the
>shot to get Wannstedt.  They waffled, hoping to either see how well Wannstedts
>will fare out in the big game or hoping to get a better candidate and while
>they were sitting on their thumbs waiting, the front office with balls went
>in and got him.  Man, I'd trade Mara, Young and Co. for Mccaskey anyday!
>(and to think, I was actually beginning to feel sorry for Bears fans befor
>today).
>Canya tell I ain't happy?
>satish nair
>giants

Wannstedt had no intentions of going to the GIANTS, based on the reasons
he gave at the Bears press confrence, i.e not wanting to face his best pal
twice a year, etc.. He also said the talks with the GIANTS were "intense"
To me he was just using th the G's to get what he wanted from the Bears.

IMO, I think the print media scared alot of the young prospect the GIANTS
were after, they (N.Y media) made a ton of money at Handley's expence.

If you (GIANTS fans) think Wannstedt was going to turn this franchise
around in one year youre as ignorant as the N.Y media belives you to be.

As for Parcells, if the GIANTS had hired him back like most of the fan
in the area wanted (as of this post Parcells got hired by the Pats)
then the G's and their fans deserved the screwing they got from Parcells
the first time.

One other thing GIANTS "fans", throughout Parcells stay with the GIANTS,
he had 3 (possibly 4) Hall Of Fame players on the team. Can you name them ?

I think Dan Reeves will be fine, if the GIANTS spends the time to get
a decent Defence Cord.

now back to ROM 8{D.

			RIC. IRVIN
			AT&T BELL LABORATORIES.

"TOUCHDOWN !!!! ... just kidding Dad! " my son at 18 months.

"In football, good hitting usually beats good pitching."

"... Lawrence Taylor was all over him... like syrup on pancakes." John Madden.

"...This Game is being broadcast in stereo..." Pat Summerall.
"...What does spit sound like in stereo? "	John Madden.

			PEACE.
From: pfieldma@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Charles Barkley)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Wanted/Predictions
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:21:07 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines


	My prediction is:

Buffalo 27
Dallas 20



Pat Fieldman
pfieldma@mines.colorado.edu
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From: reams@crchh462.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Cary Reams)
Subject: Re: How did wash and Ny doit
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 14:35:40 GMT
Reply-To: reams@bnr.ca
Organization: NT/BNR

In article <C14rpH.HE1@hpuerca.atl.hp.com>, krb@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Kevin Barnes) writes:
|> 
|> I seem to remember that Washington put a lot of pressure on the Bills O last
|> year by running a 3-4 D.
|> They kept Reed doubled in the middle and let the Dbs' run Bebe and Lofton
|> on the side lines.
|> 

Cant say whether Dallas is likely to try a 3-4D to stop the Bills. If its part
of their D scheme, maybe.  But, on an overall level, so far the JJs have yet
to 'copy' a style because it worked against someone else. As <almost>
everyone in Dallas can tell you....  They do it their way.  They'll
dance with whut brung 'em. My GUESS would be the standard rotating
4-man front with 3LBs. 

What bothers me here is Kelly's no-huddle. If there is not that time
to rotate the line, that takes Dallas out of its status quo D. I thought
that might have been a factor last year in SB26. It wasn't. (Of course,
that also featured the Rypien quick-strike O.)



|> Does Dallas have the People to do this and also stop Thermal up the middle
|> and Davis on the outside.

I can only recall seeing 3-man D fronts with a large Cowboys lead against
a dangerous O. (SF, Atlanta, Washington, Philly, NY, others.) 

|> I'm a BIG Bills fan but realize that Dallas is a great team I'd like to
|> stop the flames (for at least a week) and get down to some serious 
.asbestos_on
|> discussion about the Bills / Dallas. Face ti these two teams are both very
|> good and the worst thing we face is a blow out. Who needs another yawnner
|> SB!
|> 
|> 
|> 

-- 
Cary W Reams | Austin College Kangaroos
NT/BNR/MTXVO | Hopper Express & the Runnin' `Roos
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From: matjmm@gsusgi1.gsu.edu (J. Morgan Morris)
Subject: Power ratings?
Keywords: blah blah
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:41:16 GMT

Does anyone have any power ratings for the regular season available?
Still trying to figure out this Cowboys/Bills matchup with some
hard data....

Later,
Morgan


-- 

John Morgan Morris
Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
Georgia State University
University Plaza
Atlanta, GA. 30303-3083

Internet: matjmm@gsusgi1.gsu.edu
Telephone: (404) 651-2253
FAX: (404) 651-2246
From: vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Vernon H Harmon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Superbowl Supertrivia
Date: 24 Jan 93 03:46:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.gfMdqzq00WDKQ4EngK
	<1993Jan21.154141.20374@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM>
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.rec.sport.football.pro: 21-Jan-93 Re: Superbowl
Supertrivia stavish@purch.Columbia.N (1508)

> >I think it was the Patriots QB Kenny Easley.  :) What I meant to say 
> waaasss Tooonnnyy Eaassoonn Yeh, that's it!! :) (were Kenny Easley came
> from I have know idea?? Isn't he the ghost of Jet's past???, yes, I have
> AFC East burn-out!!) GO BILLS!!!


Kenny Easley was (is?) one of the safeties for the Seattle team which
almost went to the Super Bowl back in the mid-80's under Chuck Knox......

--Vernon.
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From: Perry@mte.ncsu.edu (Bill Perry)
Subject: Re: Bobby Hebert
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 05:09:28 GMT

In article <106132@netnews.upenn.edu> satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
writes:
>
>Hi,
>
>I recall back in 1990 that Al Davis tried to trade for Bobby Hebert.
>Seeing as how the Saints may be getting tired of Mr. Cha Choke, what
>do you think the odds are for a trade: Bobby for Marcus Allen and a
>second rounder?
>
>satish nair
>giants (reeves... bah!)
>
	I believe Hebert is a free agent at years end, and Davis wants him Bad.  Look
for it to happen, because I doubt the Saints will cough up the $$.

Bill
From: chf0@harvey.gte.com (Curtis Fennell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Unabashed Super Bowl Thought
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:14:48 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories

In article <1993Jan21.225841.4869@news.stolaf.edu> alvstad@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Joel D Alvstad) writes:
>
>QB--Jim Kelly for the Bills returned against Miami and played a good game.  I
>didn't notice many mental lapses on his part, even though had had missed the
>previous two and a half games.  

I'm not so sure.  Kelly went 17-24 for 176 yards with 1 TD and 2 INTs.
That is not very good for a SuperBowl QB, especially in a playoff game
against an arch-rival.  And both interceptions were on poorly thrown
balls.  This is despite the fact that Miami's pass rush could only
produce one sack on the day.

Also, given the field position that Buffalo had, they should have had
4 or 5 TD's instead of just two.  Between Miami's inept offense and
Buffalo's great defense, Kelly couldn't have been given any better
opportunities, and he didn't really capitalize on them.

Also, as I watched the game, a lot of Kelly's yardage should be
credited to Thurmon Thomas running with the screen pass after catching
ball.  

I know that a lot of Buffalo fans believe that I bash Kelly because I
hate the Bills.  I do hate the Bills, but I would *much* rather play the
Bills with Kelly as the QB, rather than Frank Reich.  Kelly is much more
likely to succumb to the pressure and make mistakes than Reich is. It
is, perhaps, the one thing that James Kist and I agree on.

Curt

Curt "I always pick the Dolphins - even against Buffalo!"  Fennell
			DOLFAN in New England.             
'72 Dolphins - The perfect team in the perfect season - 17-0
'92 Dolphins - AFC East Division Champions
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From: wagnonb@ur.msstate.edu
Subject: Chiefs Assistant
Reply-To:  wagnonb@ur.msstate.edu
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:35:05 GMT

Kansas City Chief's running back coach Bruce Arians was
named the offensive coordinator at Mississippi State
today.
From: lmvec@westminster.ac.uk (William Hargreaves)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Super Bowl - a game of guessing victory margin?
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:46:10 GMT
Organization: University of Westminster
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams) writes:
: It's the Super Bowl time again.  Instead of everyone predicting which
: team (and thus which conference) will win, it has become a game of
: guessing NFC's victory margin.  At least, that's how I look at it, and 
: r.s.f.p. seems to reflect this, too.
: 
: Any comment?

I reckon the Victory margin will be between 21-31 points.  Depending on How
early the Bills realize that they have lost.

Will
From: martens@cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Packer Thoughts...
Summary: Gruber, TB -> GB
Keywords: Gruber
Date: 24 Jan 93 10:00:56 GMT
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Organization: Ohio State U. Dept. of Computer Science
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In article <93023.10515432BFPQ3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Nathan Owen <32BFPQ3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:

>Lots of Lineman are needed.  The present line is really old.

This week's Packer Plus says there's a good chance Gruber will
leave Tampa Bay, and that he thinks coming back to WI would be a
plus.  That'd be a nice addition.
-- 
      "C'mon, what's the big hold up?!  Let's go, up there!
		  Bring on the snow!"  -- Calvin

-- Jeff (martens@cis.ohio-state.edu)
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From: reams@crchh462.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Cary Reams)
Subject: Re: Aikman/Walsh controversy farce???
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:36:15 GMT
Reply-To: reams@bnr.ca
Organization: NT/BNR

In article <BILLMS.93Jan22094228@gip.eecs.umich.edu>, billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan21.201154.1401@altair.selu.edu> scsd1055@altair.selu.edu writes:
|> 
|> 	   I know that the following will rehash an already tosssed and
|>    turned subject, but an interesting thought occured.
|> 
|> 	   I wonder if Dallas pulled a little wool over everyones eyes by 
|>    creating the Steve Walsh/Troy Aikman controversy just to improve Steve 
|>    Walsh's trading value.
|> 
|> This idea is an old one around here, promoted by those who see the JJs as
|> master schemers who are always light years ahead of all the mental slugs
|> around them.  Every thing *always* happens exactly as the JJs planned it,
|> regardless of documented quotes that they may have had indicating that they
|> wanted something else. 
|> 
|> Example.  They want the rocket.  No they don't and they never did.  Well, ok
|> they really did want him after all, but not at the expense of not getting
|> russell.
|> 
|> All of these views are supported by the great success the cowboys are having,
|> and the amazing large egos of the JJs which say, basically, 'yep, we are a
|> bunch smarter than everybody around us'.
|> 
|> Remember.  We are all just puppets in the JJs plans.  I can't wait to see
|> what they have in mind for Clinton.
|> 

I heard Bill was going to be supplying half-time entertainment in JJones'
Box during the Super Bowl. Branford Marsalis will be back-up if William
can't make it.

|> Bill
|> --
|> -------------------------------
|> 	Bill Mangione-Smith
|> 	billms@eecs.umich.edu

-- 
Cary W Reams | Austin College Kangaroos
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From: Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: More Patriots News
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:48:43 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <106602@netnews.upenn.edu>
satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:

> Bill Parcells has named ex-Giants head coach Ray Perkins as the offensive
> coordinator for the Patriots. Ex-Giants defensive coordinator Al Groh will
> also take the role of D coordinator with the Pats.

Al Groh, who was Bill Belichick and the Browns this season, is not the
only Giants coach that Bill is bringing into the fold.  Also going to
NE are Romeo Crennel (defensive line coach), Fred Hoaglin (offensive
line coach), Johnny Parker (strength & conditioning coach), Mike
Sweatman (special teams) and Charlie Weis (tight ends coach).  All of
these coaches were under Handley this season and all served with
Parcells during his tenure with the Giants.  In fact, the only coaches
who remain from the Giants are people obtained while Handley was head
coach. 

Mike Colburn                         =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Dartmouth-Hitchcock                  "Pulu-see-ba-goomba" -- Gilligan 
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