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From: brian@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Brian Louis Rogers  (BLuR))
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball,alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Field Guide
Followup-To: rec.sport.paintball,alt.sport.paintball
Date: 15 Dec 1992 22:40:34 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois, Materials Research Labs Cent. for Computation, Operations Office
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Keywords: fields

Ok, work has begun on the paintball field database.

	Right now I am using a copy of one of the free
paintball papers (name unknown right now, dont have it here with
me).  After the first posting (hopefully before Xmas) of the fields
I will open my mail up for people to send me information on
fields in their area.  

This is the information format I plan to use  --  if you see any problems or
something that needs to be added to the format, let me know by posting it
here.

[------------------------------------------]

Field Name
Owner Name
Location
	city, state
Mailing Address
	street or po box
Phone Number                  
----
Field Fees
+ cost for 1 day of paintball (or 1/2 day if that is what the field does it)
Gun Rental
+ cost for rental
Type of Guns
+ type of gun for rent
Tournaments
+ (yes/no)
Concessions
+ (yes/no)
Food
+ (yes/no)
Shelter
+ (yes/no)
Facilities
+ portapotty/flush/outhouse
Walkons
+ (yes/no)
Min Age
+ Obvious
Insurance
+ Obvious
[-------------------------------------------]

My first complaint would be the tournaments.  There
should be something there that tells WHICH tournaments
are held at what field.  Ill deal with that later.

The listing will, I hope, be broken down into state with,
again I hope, fields which carry insurance listed first.

I would, at least for the first couple postings, like to keep the
number of states down to only those that people are interested in.

When everything has been hashed out, I would LOVE to turn this
all over to someone who has more time and more energy than
I do (I will likely lose net access in 4 months due to serious delta(life).



Brian L. Rogers
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: petekunz@iiic.ethz.ch (Peter John Kunz)
Subject: Re: Idiotic Games I have Played
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:39:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.113730.61985@cc.usu.edu> sl1t4@cc.usu.edu (CORKY) writes:
>> 
>I've played this!!! We actually have a name for it.  SCAR FACE, except we
>didn't care howmany rounds people had, and who ever gave up first lost.  I'm so
>glad to hear some body say that they've played this game.  I thought I was the
>only nutsoid in the world!
>

after a long day of hard play, some people like to do duels. each player gets 2 balls and it's done the old fashioned way. count turn shoot and stay where you are. quite fun to stand in between and hear the balls whiz by....



cu
-pete



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From: bjs@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian J. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Florida fields?
Date: 17 Dec 92 05:58:24 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

In article <1992Dec16.123146.14674@samba.oit.unc.edu> Rich.Rubel@launchpad.unc.edu (Rich Rubel) writes:
>
>My turn to ask...  I'll be in Orlando, fl. over Christmas, and was
>wondering where the local fields are.  I know Enterprise 1701 sells
>(solod?  it's been a year) paint gear, so I can always find out there, but
>I want to know BEFORE I go down, and drag all my equipment 900 miles.
>[RICHR]

Have I got the ticket for you!

Hurricane Paintball Supply
5960 Lakehurst Dr.
Orlando Florida 32819
407-352-5819

They also run the best field in Orlando.  There are also about 3 others
that are not up to par.  Costs are something like $20 for day of play and
rental of pump.  You can bring your own paint.  Call them and ask for more
info and directions.

Bjs

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: aktan@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Andre Kian-An Tan)
Subject: Re: USI.....NOT!!!
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 21:25:21 EST

In article <ANOVAK.92Dec9093020@titan.ucc.umass.edu> anovak@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Andrew N. Novak) writes:
>	No, I'm not related in any way to the Canobie paintballers,
>they've just been really friendly compared to the schmucks at USI.

Wow... if that's the case, then the USI schmucks must really be dicks...

 - Andre

Ps... Does Canobie still charge 12.5 cents a ball and 10 cents a ball in bulk?
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: bjs@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian J. Smith)
Subject: Laws of Paintball
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 01:41:08 GMT

First Law of Ball Breakage in Paintball

If you carry a squiggy on the field, a ball will not break.

If you forget your squiggy, the first ball out of the barrel
will break, regardless of where you are.

Bjs
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From: jimfost@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Jim Foster)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Idiotic Games I have Played
Date: 14 Dec 1992 09:05:14 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: usa
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petekunz@iiic.ethz.ch (Peter John Kunz) writes:


>after a long day of hard play, some people like to do duels. each player gets 2 balls and it's done the old fashioned way. count turn shoot and stay where you are. quite fun to stand in between and hear the balls whiz by....

We used to do this before games, only we preferred Old West style: A fully
loaded Splatmaster each, guns uncocked and either held at the side or set on the
floor, the 2 players facing each other approx 15ft apart. After setup, players
waited until one or the other made a move and went for their guns. Whoever got
shot first lost. One interesting tactical note: the first shot rarely won as
panic usually spoiled one's aim.


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Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: Are FAST glue really fast?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:17:01 GMT

In article <HELLER.92Dec15004541@luna.think.com> heller@luna.think.com (Steve Heller) writes:

>I have a slightly different question.  Don't slower rubbers offer more
>control and opportunity for spin while faster rubbers obviously offer
>speed?  Aren't these exclusive?

Evaluating rubber sheets is one of the most subjective things 
imaginable. Speed isn't the problem, you can measure that. The
problem is evaluating "control". 

In general, 'Control" increases with 

1) softer sponge -> slower
2) thinner sponge -> slower
3) slicker top sheet -> less spin

I wouldn't say they're "exclusive" - otherwise we're all fools 
for paying $25+ for the latest, greatest, fastest, spinniest 
rubber with the most control.




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Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
From: rio@me.utoronto.ca (Oscar del Rio)
Subject: Re: Ball Ratings (Repost) (Survey)
Organization: UofT Mechanical Engineering
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:03:29 GMT

tsv@Unify.com (Tim Vannaman) writes:
>What do the number of stars stand for on  a TT  ball?
>Which ones do they use in tournaments?
>What is your personal favorite?

I remember I used to practice with Nittaku * and ** a long time ago...
I haven't seen any of these balls for years!

For robot and/or multi-ball practice, we use some (cheap) Champion or
Double Happiness (not ***) balls...

I dont know what the stars really mean, but *** are the best ones
(ITTF approved, for tournament play).  * and ** are just for practice.
Butterfly has recently put in the market both practice (they don't say
if they are * or **) and tournament (***) balls.

My favorite 3-star balls are...

1. Nittaku  ---> The best, always!  :-)
2. Butterfly
---------------> I always try to avoid the ones below...   :-)
3. Schildkrot 
4. Double Happiness
5. Stiga
6. Peace

About the color, it depends on the lighting and the surroundings...
Under good lighting and dark surroundings I'm indifferent to the
color of the ball...

An advice:  If you are practicing for a tournament, find out what
kind of balls are going to be used (brand and color), and practice
ONLY with these balls.  The hardness of the ball makes a lot of
difference to the game.  Some are easier to loop, some are easier
to hit (kill).

Ciao,

Oscar.

(too lazy to make a .signature  :-)
From: mosche@vipunen.hut.fi (M}ns Holmberg)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
Subject: ITTF RULES 3(the racket)
Date: 21 Dec 92 02:12:04 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.table-tennis
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

Hello!
 
I'm posting a summary of the most important ITTF TT-rules. Please dont
follow up on this article with your own theories. If you have any questions
about the rules e-mail me and I'll post an answer to this newsgroup.

The racket:

	The total thickness of a sandwich rubber may not exceed 4 mm, of
	which the pimpled rubber may not be thicker than 2 mm. An ordinary
	pimpled rubber may not be thicker than 2 mm.

	One side of the racket should be red and the other black, regardless
	of if you use both sides to strike the ball.

	A side of the racket used for striking the ball should be covered
	by a rubber currently authorised by the federation responsible for
	the event.

	The rubber shall extend up to but not beyond the limits of the
	blade.

	The rackethand is the hand carrying the racket. If a player strikes
	the ball with the rackethand from the fingers to the wrist the shot
	is good.

	A player shall lose a point if he hits the ball in with the handle
	of the racket. In this case he has hit the ball with a part of his
	racket not covered by a authorised rubber.

bye
Mosche
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From: desjarly@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Desjardins Lyne)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
Subject: Re: speedglue banned
Date: 18 Dec 92 22:46:23 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

In article <1992Dec18.212445.16541@linus.mitre.org> rseguine@buckeye.mitre.org (Roy SeGuine) writes:
>In article <105253@bu.edu> takwong@alexander.bbn.com writes:
>> Subject: No More Speed-Glue!!??
>> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 10:41:32 EST
>> From: takwong@alexander.bbn.com
>> 
>> 
>> 	Yes, the words are out:  The ITTF has ordained that the use of
>> 	speed-glue in official tournaments is illegal.  
>
>They'll never make that stick. :-)
>
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It is *not* a joke...

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
From: paul@ace.acadiau.ca (Paul Steele)
Subject: Paddle grips - which one should I use?
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 12:36:50 GMT

I have just started replaying ping pong (aka table tennis) after a 15-year 
hiatus.  I was never anything more than a recreational player and that's all 
I plan to be now.  But I do like to improve my game and use proper 
techniques and so on.  One thing I want to change is my grip, but I'm not 
sure what grip is most common.  I used to use the old (poor) thumb behind 
the paddle grip, but at the moment I'm using 1 finger (index) behind the 
paddle with my other three fingers and thumb around the handle.  I use both 
the front and back of the paddle for top spin, side spin and back spin 
depending on the shot and my position, although sometimes the ball will hit 
my index finger on the backhand. I've tried another grip I've seen quite a 
few people use with all four fingers on the back side and the thumb around 
the handle (sort of like a handshake grip), but I can't seem to handle back 
shots with that grip.

What other grips should I try?

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
From: tam@pythia.itkp.uni-bonn.de (Alvian Tam)
Subject: Backside of penholder bat usable?
Summary: Can you use the 'other side' of a penholder bat to hit the ball?
Keywords: penholder bat, backside, 2-colour rule
Organization: Universit"at Bonn, Informatikinstitut, R"omerstr 154, W-5300 Bonn 1
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:30:47 GMT

Hi there,

Great to see the TT group alive and well. I am a TT lover but I haven't played
the game for 10 years now. Here is a question that has always bothered me.

I play with a penholder grip with red plastic on only 1 side of the bat. The 
other side is bare wood, unpainted with natural colour. Lots of people told
me that I cannot hit the ball the this bare side because:

(1) You can never use the 'other side' of a penholder bat. (What if you use
    a handshake-bat but hold it with a penholder grip, can you use the
    'other side'?)

(2) You can use the 'other side' but only if it is painted in the same colour
    as the plastic side, in my case, red.

(3) You can use the 'other side' but only if it is painted, and only if it is
    painted in a different colour to the plastic, e.g., black in my case.

(4) You can use the 'other side' if it is covered with plastic, making my bet
    2-sided.

What is the right rule? I am extremely confused. A related question is this
'2-colour rule' that everybody keep talking about. What is it?

Email prefered (news server keep dying on me) and I will summarise if there
are enough responses and interests. If you post on news, please send me an
extra email copy too.

Thanks a lot,
Alvian Tam.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
From: paul@ace.acadiau.ca (Paul Steele)
Subject: Height of the net
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:21:56 GMT

Here's a real simple question:  What is the proper height of the net above
the table.  I bought a new table that didn't come with proper net mounting
hardware, so I'm trying to improvise until I get the right stuff.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
From: dht@controls.ccd.harris.com (Danh Tran)
Subject: Re: speedglue banned
Organization: Harris Controls and Composition
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:32:55 GMT

In article <105253@bu.edu> takwong@alexander.bbn.com writes:
>
>	Yes, the words are out:  The ITTF has ordained that the use of
>	speed-glue in official tournaments is illegal.   This is to be
>	effective immediately (December 17, 1992).  The question is,
>	how do you enforce it?  Does anybody know?  Does that mean
>	the hitters are coming back?  Is there future for Qiumars and
>	Chi-Sun?  What is Paddle Palace going to do with the tons of
>	tire glue that got from the automobile industry -- repackage it
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	again and claim that it is regular rubber cement (who can tell
>	the difference anyway?)
>

As far as I know, there is no difference between speed-glue used in TT and
tire glue sold in Auto-park store.  They are effective the same.  Instead 
of paying over $10 for a can of speed-glue, you can buy one at the Auto-Park
store for $4.

Danh Tran


Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
From: ajchien@med.umich.edu (Alexander J. Chien)
Subject: Re: applgren.gif (Part 0 of 3) --- Description
Keywords: GIF file
Organization: University of Michigan - Medical Center
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:59:39 GMT

In article <Bz790y.9F9@me.utoronto.ca> rio@me.utoronto.ca (Oscar del Rio) writes:
>Hi all,
>
>Today I was learning how to use our scanner, and chose one of the
>best loopers of the world as my first try...  :-)
>
>My next 3 posts contain a picture of Mikael Appelgren forehand looping
>close to the table.
>
>At the bottom of the picture there is another player that I don't seem
>to recognize... Can anybody look at the picture and tell me who he is?
>

The dude on the bottom right is Peter Franz of Germany.

-Alex

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From: c85perwe@IDA.LiU.SE (Per Westling)
Subject: Results: European League (Men)
Reply-To: c85perwe@und.ida.liu.se
Organization: CIS Dept, University of Linkoping, Sweden
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 08:37:38 GMT

Results from the first match in the European League (for Men):

Gdansk, Poland:  Poland vs Belgium      1-4

Hannover, Germany:  Germany vs Sweden   2-4

Rematch Jan 12, 93.


Details of the games in the match between Germany and Sweden:

Jorg Rosskopf, G           19 21 21
Erik Lindh, S              21 13 15

Richard Prause, G          11 15
Jan-Ove Waldner, S         21 21

Steffen Fetzner, G         21 21
Tomas von Scheele, S       16 14

Rosskopf/Fetzner           21 19 10
Waldner/von Scheele        16 21 21

Rosskopf                    9 13
Waldner                    21 21

Prause                     13 19
von Scheele                21 21


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From: damouth@wrc.xerox.com (David E. Damouth)
Subject: Re: Paddle Suggestions Please!!
Reply-To: damouth@wrc.xerox.com
Organization: Xerox Webster Research Center
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 13:45:11 GMT

Yes Bob Brickell is still active, and still has some of his own balsa
blades (called "Brickbats") among the multitude of commercial blades
that he sells.  I suspect that the price is now closer to $20 however.

Bob's phone is (716) 663-3203.  His prices for blades, rubber, and
balls are as low as any.  And if you are confused about the hundreds of
types of blades and rubber sheets available, he is very good about
questioning you about your playing style and then recommending
something sensible.  

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fax: 716-265-7133
From: tsv@Unify.com (Tim Vannaman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
Subject: Ball Ratings (Repost) (Survey)
Date: 11 Dec 92 14:50:25 GMT
Organization: Unify Corporation (Sacramento)

I never  received an answer the first time I posted this.

What do the number of stars stand for on  a TT  ball?  I know  its
rating of some sort.  

Which ones do they use in tournaments?

What is your personal favorite?

(go ahead and post the answers for everyone to read.  emails are fine, tho)

Tim.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
From: ajchien@med.umich.edu (Alexander J. Chien)
Subject: Re: Backside of penholder bat usable?
Organization: University of Michigan - Medical Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:33:32 GMT

In article <Bz7wCz.ArB@sidc.com> soo@sidc.com writes:
>
>Does anybody playing the penholding style actually uses the backside of the
>bat for offense/defense?  If so, how?
>
>-- 
>Jo Han Soo
>Seiko Instrument Dev. Corp.
>ARPA: soo@sidc.com

A few penhold players at one local club I go to use the backside of their
penhold blades. Both of them put long pips/no sponge on their backside and
the only chop/push with it rarely. It's just a change=up variation.

Ive heard that a few penhold players in China are trying something a little 
new. They're cutting little indentations into their handles which gives them
a little bit more leverage and they are trying to use the backside of
the blade to try to loop.  I experimented with that idea about 2 years ago, when I was a penholder - it was effective,but very unstable for me. Now that Im
a shakehander, I haven't worried about it too much since ;)

-Alex

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.table-tennis
From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: Backside of penholder bat usable?
Keywords: penholder bat, backside, 2-colour rule
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:06:43 GMT

In article <tam.724188647@pythia.itkp.uni-bonn.de> tam@pythia.itkp.uni-bonn.de (Alvian Tam) writes:

>I play with a penholder grip with red plastic on only 1 side of the bat. The 
>other side is bare wood, unpainted with natural colour. Lots of people told
>me that I cannot hit the ball the this bare side because:

Its changed over the years. The current rules say you have
to have a rubber sheet on that side. I watched Jiang Jialiang 
play backhand topspin drives like this a couple years ago. 
Supposedly a way to handle the Swedes after he lost the WC
to Waldner (I believe).



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