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From: preetham@chisti.umiacs.umd.edu (Preetham Gopalaswamy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Re: RD / Asha still active in novie industry
Date: 6 Jan 93 20:42:56 GMT

In article <19496.2b499e1e@ecs.umass.edu>, bhattach@ecs.umass.edu writes:
|> In article <1993Jan05.155559.18580@watson.ibm.com>, pradeep@watson.ibm.com (Pradeep Dubey) writes:
|> > Hello,
|> > The subject line says it all.  I was wondering
|> > if RD Burman or Asha Bhosle still active in the industry ?
|> > If the answer is yes, can you please post their latest
|> > hit movie/songs?
|> > Thanks,
|> > Pradeep
|> 
|> 
|> Yes, RD and Asha are around, but not as active as we would like them to be.
|> Their last good numbers were in "Ijaazat". It was scintillating.
|> After that there is another Gulzar movie in which RD is scored the
|> music and the songs are sung by Asha --- "Libaaz". I have not heard
|> them. They are suppoosed to be pretty good. Also the movie "Parinda"
|> had a couple of very good songs by Asha and Suresh Wadkar. The music was
|> of course by RD. Another movie under production(i guess) "1942 - A love
|> Story" also has RD's music and is supposed to be quite good.
|> That's all I have. Hope it helps... have fun...
|> 
|> -Sandeepan Bhattacharya.

Well I heard that RD recently (within the last year to year and a half) suffered
a heart attack which put him out of commission for quite a while.  Asha has not
been in demand for a while apart from a handful of songs that she gets each year.
Just her luck I guess, she does not get any songs in the period when her voice is
undoubtedly the best in the industry (with due respect to fans of the new crop of
singers).
About "Libaaz", the music for this film was made somewhere in the mid 80s.  The
film was put on hold and is being released now.  There are a couple of Lata songs
one of which is BEAUTIFUL; the words I think are "Seeli hawa choo gayi" (what is
this fascination that Gulzar has with this word "seeli" anyways :-) :-) )
In my "unbiased" :-) :-) opinion though, the best song is by Asha.  It is another
of those "prose order" style songs a la "Mera kuch samaan" which she has sung
brilliantly under RD's music direction of course.  I am not sure if there is
another Asha song.
I had not heard of "1942 - A love Story" and hope RD does a good job.   He sure
needs a few hits considering his sagging ratings.

				Preetham
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From: fiddick@condor.ucsb.edu (Laurence Fiddick;)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Re: info on FLUTE !!
Date: 7 Jan 93 02:26:44 GMT
Distribution: rec.music.indian.classical

i'm not particularly fond of western flutes myself, but i would suggest
some ney music (a ney is an oboe like woodwind i believe). look for
recordings by kudsi erguner and there is also a good cd by djivan gasparyan
called 'i will not be sad in this world'. aside from the ney you might also
check out the japanese shakuhachi flute which like the bansri is also a
bamboo flute. i believe it is also generally played solo.

perhaps you can help me: who should i seek out on bansri other than
hariprasad chaurasia and pannalal ghosh? am i missing someone? is bansri
strictly hindustani or is it also carnatic?
From: tbear@access.digex.com (Abdkabir)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Sabri Brothers Recordings
Date: 4 Jan 1993 17:38:42 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: world
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Does anyone know where to oder tapes of the Pakistani Sufi group, the
Sabri Brothers? I know of only two tapes they have released with North
American record companies, but I understand they have recorded many other
tapes that have not been produced by mainstream producers. Thanks for the
help in advance!
-- Cliff Urr
tbear@access.digex.com
From: vgangoll@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Vinata Gangolli)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Article on Pt.Bhatkhande
Date: 10 Jan 93 23:35:22 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver



    The article on Pandit Bhatkhande made an interesting reading. Pandit Bhatkhande also wrote a book in Sanskrit called 'Abhinava Raaga Manjiri' in addition to
the books mentioned in the article. This was prior to the publication of
'Hindustani Sangeet Paddhati'. In fact, a number of verses from that book are
quoted in the 'Paddhati' in addition to the ancient and medieval musicological
works and Pt.Bhatkhande's other book 'Mallakshayasangeetam'.
    The concept of time cycle has been recognised since ancient times in Hindustani music. Pt. Bhatkhande made a study of this aspect and made a classification of Raagas into three groups based on this concept.
 viz. Ri-Dha Komal Raagas, Ri-Dha Shuddha Raagas and Ga-Ni Komal Raagas.
   Another scheme suggested by him is based on the same principle of time but
classifies the raagas according to the position of the sonant note in the octave
   However, as mentioned in the article, his own 'Thaat' classification has
been more popular.
                        
Vinata Gangolli
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: info on FLUTE !!
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 16:49:11 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.204003.13057@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com>, murthy@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com (Venkatesh Murthy) writes:
|> Hi,
|> 
|> Is flute used in western music ? If so, please suggest some of the popular
|> cassettes/CDs.

Most certainly flute is used in Western music. In Classical music,
Jean-Pierre Rampal is very well known and has many albums.
Flute is also used in jazz and popular music.

|> Where can I get flute in US ? I could not find in most of the 
|> shops here( Ann Arbor), even in the shops selling musical instruments.

Could they order you in a flute ? Most stores should carry them since
they are one of the instruments that can be learnt in high school.
Have you enquired in the University in the Music dept. ? 
Attend a college football game - the marching band has flute players !
 
|> Is there any western instrument close to the flute (Close in the sense, 
|> the finger movements are same and the sound also closer)?

The Recorder is a flute-like instrument that is often taught to students
in school. Most people learn it when they are 10-12 years old. This will
defintely be available in any music store.
  
|> 
|> My email-address:
|> murthy@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com
|> 
|> Thanks in advance
|> 
|> Murthy
|> 
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From: moinuddi@usc.edu (Asif Moinuddin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical,rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: For Full info on Indian CD's, Call 1-800-766-1818
Date: 7 Jan 1993 00:54:27 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Dear Friends,

	Now the Indian music is available on CD's. The following
categories of music offers more than 2,500 titles on CD's. 

	Especially, there is a large collection of Indian Classical
music which was not available earlier on CD's.

1) Hindi film hits
2) Hindi Film Instrumental
3) Gazals
4) Qawwali
5) Hindustani Classical Vocal
6) Hindustani Clasical Instrumental
7) Karnatak Classical Vocal
8) Karnatak Classical Instrumental
9) Drupad
10) Punjabi
11) Gujarati
12) Bengali
13) Telugu
14) Kannada
15) Tamil
16) Malayalam
	
	And many other types of Indian music is available on CD's

	You can also get a free catalog by calling 1-800-766-1818.

You will however have to pay $3.00 through Credit CArd for shipping
of the catalog which contains THE LARGEST COLLECTION OF
INDIAN CD'S AND INCLUDES ALMOST ALL THE INDIAN CD'S released
so far. Additionally, you will receive periodic information
about the new releases .

	You can also send $3.00 for catalog shipping through a check
payable to Asmara Compact Disc House and mail it to the following
address.
		Asmara Compact Disc House
		5568 Sepulveda Blvd.,
		Culver City CA 90230

Alternately, if you don't need the catalog, call 1-800-766-1818
and leave your Name and address. You will receive periodic
information about the new releases.

You can also ask to be informed about the new releases 
by E Mail which should be operational in about a month's time.

If you are living in LA area, you can visit the shop. It is off 405 Freeway,
Jefferson exit, the shop is located on Sepulveda Blvd.

Hope this info is useful for those interested in Indian music.
From: fiddick@condor.ucsb.edu (Laurence Fiddick;)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Re: Sabri Brothers Recordings
Date: 10 Jan 93 22:14:48 GMT
Distribution: rec.music.indian.classical

perhaps these are the same two releases that you are talking about, but the
sabri brothers have put out an album on the nonesuch label, called
something like 'qawwali: pakistani sufi music', a cd on the realworld label
titled 'ya habib'. i'm probably a bit mistaken on the titles though.
Xref: sparky rec.music.indian.classical:2294 rec.music.indian.misc:3771
From: moinuddi@usc.edu (Asif Moinuddin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical,rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: For Indian music on CD's, Call 1-800-766-1818
Date: 6 Jan 1993 00:35:52 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Dear Friends,

	Now the Indian music is available on CD's. The following
categories of music offers more than 2,500 titles under CD. 
ESPECIALLY, you can now enjoy the melodious Classical music
in CD's.

1) Hindi film hits
2) Hindi Film Instrumental
3) Gazals
4) Qawwali
5) Hindustani Classical Vocal
6) Hindustani Clasical Instrumental
7) Karnatak Classical Vocal
8) Karnatak Classical Instrumental
9) Drupad
10) Punjabi
11) Gujarati
12) Bengali
13) Telugu
14) Kannada
15) Tamil

	You can also get a free catalog by calling 1-800-766-1818.

You will however have to pay $3.00 for shipping and handling
for the catalog which contains THE LARGEST COLLECTION OF
INDIAN CD'S AND INCLUDES ALMOST ALL THE INDIAN CD'S released
so far. Additionally, you will receive periodic information
about the new releases .

Alternately, if you don't need the catalog, call 1-800-766-1818
and leave your Name and address. You will receive periodic
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From: pagrawal@portal.hq.videocart.com (Pankaj Agrawal)
Subject: Re: Rabindranath Tagore - Recordings wanted
Organization: VideOcart Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:03:54 GMT

I just read in India Abroad about a new recording of Tagore's Gitanjali.
Dr. Deepak Chopra, now famous author of several books on holistic healing,
including "Quantum Healing", reads the poems set to music by two other
people whose names I don't remember. 

Sorry I don't recall the label but I will post it tomorrow.

-Pankaj
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From: srini@engin.umich.edu (Srinivasan Pichumani)
Subject: Re: ANNAMACHARYA (REsponse)
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 15:31:57 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: rec

In article <RAMAKANT.93Jan6131849@me.uta.edu> ramakant@me.uta.edu (Munipalli ramakanth (AE)) writes:
>To: vyju@kind.ecn.purdue.edu (Vyjayanthi Manian)
>In-reply-to: vyju@kind.ecn.purdue.edu's message of Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:57:53 GMT
>Subject: Annamacharya's krithis ...
>--text follows this line--
>MSs' Neelambari song is as follows:
>
>...................................
>
>The point is that the songs are scripted in the telugu
>of annamacharya's time: c. 1300..
>Not many people would identify the above song as telugu on a first hearing!

Hear Hear! I have tried to find out the exact words of a few AnnamAcAryA kritis
and have drawn blanks from many people who know Telugu & music well. 
The second kriti requested - "enta mAtramuna evvaru dalacina" - has always been
one big mystery to me as far as the words go. Here is what reaches my ear-drums
whenever I play the song:

enta mAtramuna evvaru dalacina anta mAtramE nIvu
antarAntaramulencittuda vindante nippadi annatlu ...

koluturumimu vaiShnavulu kOrimitUviShnudanE
palukuturumimu vEdAntulu parabrahmamanucu
talaturumimu shaivulu taginabhaktulunu shivudanucu
alaripogaduduru kApAlikudu Adibhairavudanucu

sadinennuduru shAktEyulu shaktirUpu nIvanucu
darisanamimu vibhu nAnavidulanu talapulagolatula bhajinturu
tirulamimuyE alpabuddhhi dalacinavAriki alpambhavulu
garimalamimuyE ghanamanidalacina ghanabuddhulaku ghanudavu
nivalena .............. nIrukoladi tAmaravu
AvalabhAgIrati.......... ...... oorinayetlu
shrI vEnkatapati nivai .... chEkoni unna dhaivamu
nivalenEnI sharaneniyadanu nIve paratatvamu nAku

I would be grateful if someone could reverse-engineer this mess and post
the correct version.

The basic import of this song (I guess) is that the Lord presents various forms
to various types of people like the vaiShNavites, shaivites, vEdantins, kApalikAs,
etc. Kind of gives you an idea of the various groups that AnnamAcArya knew of. 
He himself was born a SmArtha but became a VaiShNavite later on.

MSS sings a very apt & beautiful pAsuram as a preface to this song. In
this verse of pEyAzhvAr (one of the earliest AzhvArs), he says that 
the God on top of the Hill(Tirumalai) at Tirupati has various markings
suggesting both Siva and Vishnu; in the last line, he says that maybe
both have merged into one form at this location.
The verse and the kriti thus seem to carry a plea for non-sectarianism.


-Srini. 
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From: udaya@portia.rice.edu (Udaya Sathuvalli 207Cox x3626)
Subject: Abdul Aziz Khan
Keywords: veena, Holroyde
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:00:04 GMT

I am reading a book called "The music of India"
by Peggy Holroyde. The book was written in the 1950s.
The book is an introduction to Indian music
(mostly Hindustani, though there are several
sections devoted to Carnatic music). Ms Holroyde
is not a musician and the book addresses
a novice audience.

In this book she talks about the LP recordings of
a veena player called Abdul Aziz Khan. I tried
to get these recordings and could not. The people at the 
local Indian music store ( Video Paradise in Houston,
which has a fairly good collection) had not heard of 
this musician.


I would appreciate any leads, any information.

Thanks.

Udaya Bhaskar 
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From: vyju@kind.ecn.purdue.edu (Vyjayanthi Manian)
Subject: Annamacharya's krithis ...
Keywords: need lyrics...
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:57:53 GMT



I am looking for the words to the following krithis by 
Annamacharya:

1) Entha mathramu evvaru .... (sung to brindavana saranga/ mayamalavagowla
by MS)
 
2) Thottilana ..... (in Neelambari by MS)

Are there any books that list Annammayy's krithis? In a language
other than Telugu ? English/Sanskrit/Tamil are OK. 


Thanks

vyju manian

vyju@ecn.purdue.edu
From: raj@phys.ksu.edu (S. Raj Chaudhury)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Re: Rabindranath Tagore - Recordings wanted
Date: 13 Jan 1993 01:23:32 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
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In <1993Jan4.141009.27359@daimi.aau.dk> klauss@daimi.aau.dk (Klaus Seidenfaden) writes:

>On the CD with music from the film version of Peter Brook's "Mahabharata"
>(label: Peter Gabriel's "RealWorld" in England) there are a few songs with
>lyrics (and music?) by Rabindranath Tagore.
>   I find these very beautiful and I would like to have more of them!
>Could anyone help me out?  Is there a particular record label that is likely
>to have it?  

I doubt that there are Western record label releases of Tagore songs (to
repeat what others have said).  To my knowledge there are a number of
Bengali families in Copenhagen - try to run someone down and ask to 
borrow something. (If a Bengali does not have some Tagore stuff around
his/her house, IMHO they no longer count as Bengali!)

I just happen to be a singer of the same genre of music (RabindraSangeet)
and an expert in that particular subset of Tagore's music from which
the selections were made - these are called BrahmaSangeet, generally
metaphysical expressions of love for God.  The first song "Nibiro ghono
aandhare" is done in a radically new style for Tagore's music, but
nonetheless fits the mood of the scene and is well done. The next song
is of the same style "Antaro momoh bikoshito koro".


>   (It would be excellent to get it with the same singer. Unfortunately, I
>don't remember her name, but I could find out.)

Yep - Sharmila Roy, not an established Bengali singer.

>(Please note that I live in Europe. Small labels that only issue records 
>- not CDs or cassette tapes - might not be appropriate.)

IF there is interest I could take a stab at translating the songs.  Maybe
other Bengalis on the net would care to chip in with suggestions?


--
S. Raj Chaudhury			|
Dept. of Physics    			|  raj@phys.ksu.edu
Kansas State University			|
Manhattan, KS 66506			|
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From: pavan@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu (A.Pavan)
Subject: S E A S O N S - Program of Indian Dances in MN
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Distribution: mn
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:55:09 GMT



		Nritya Jyoti Dance Inc.
		~~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~ 
			presents


		   " S E A S O N S "
		   * * * * * * * * *

		 The seasons of India
		  interpreted through
	       classical and folk dances

		       Performers :

	Rita Mitra Mustaphi and students (Kathak)
	Rani and Aparna Ramaswamy (Bharata Natyam)
	Sohini Ray (from New York, Manipuri)
	Gujarati Group (Gujarati Folk Dances)
	Ethnic Dance Theater of MN (Folk Dances)

	Mala Ganguly (from LA, Vocal)
	David Whetstone (Sitar)
	Prabhas Moghe (Sitar)
	Allalaghatta Pavan (Tabla)
	Suresh (from Cincinatti, Mridangam)

When  : Saturday, Jan. 16, 1993 (2:00 p.m and 7:30 p.m)
Where : St. Paul Student Center, 2017 Buford Ave., St. Paul, MN, 55108
Tickets : General Admission $ 9.00
	  Advance (before Jan 15), Students, Seniors and Members of Minnesota
	  Dance Alliance and India Club of India - $ 7.00
Info  : Nritya Jyoti Dance Inc.
	(612)894-8795
	(612)537-8291
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From: rajiv@me.uta.edu (Rajiv Chakravarti)
Subject: Request for .snd files
Organization: none
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:12:37 GMT


Hello, 

	I am looking for .snd (sound files) files for the NeXT or SUN
systems... If anyone has any classical (hindustani/Carnatic) music or any
good ghazals (NO Pankaj U, please.. only Mehdi Hassan, Begum AKhtar, Jagjit, 
etc), please mail it to:
	rajiv@me.uta.edu

Thanks a lot for your time.

Regards.
--
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Rajiv Chakravarti
Dept. of Aerospace Engineering
University of Texas at Arlington

rajiv@utacfd.uta.edu                             rajiv@me.uta.edu
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From: pavan@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu (A.Pavan)
Subject: Pandit Birju Maharaj touring N.America
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:15:52 GMT


Pandit Birju Maharaj along with his company will be touring North America
for the months of June and July, 1993. If you would like to organise a
performance, workshops, lecture-demonstrations and/or master classes
of Kathak Dance, Tabla, and vocal music, please contact :

Nritya Jyoti Dance Inc.
c/o Rita Mitra Mustaphi
5444 Orchard Avenue No.
Crystal, MN, 55429

Ph # : (612)537-8291

			Pandit Birju Maharaj
			****** ***** *******

Pandit Birju Maharaj is the recipient of "Padma Vibhushan" - the highest
Presidential Award for achievements. He is a master choreographer, renowned
composer, vocalist and percussionist. He represents the seventh generation
of hereditary storytelling dancers. He was the invited choregrapher at the
American Dance Festival in 1991.

Nritya Jyoti Dance Inc., Crystal, MN, will arrange for a grand tour of
the dance master along with his company of dancers and musicians.

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From: ramakant@me.uta.edu (Munipalli ramakanth (AE))
Subject: ANNAMACHARYA (REsponse)
Organization: none
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:18:49 GMT


To: vyju@kind.ecn.purdue.edu (Vyjayanthi Manian)
In-reply-to: vyju@kind.ecn.purdue.edu's message of Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:57:53 GMT
Subject: Annamacharya's krithis ...
--text follows this line--
MSs' Neelambari song is as follows:

Tholliyunu Marraku Thottelana noogeni
Chellubadi noogenu sreeranga sisuvu

Kaliki kaveri tharagala bahulathalane
chilupaala selavutho sree ranga sisuvu

vedamule cherulai velayanga seshude
padukonu thottala paragagaanu
sreedevi tho goodi sreevenkatesude 
...................................

above rendition from memory-subject to errors!
The point is that the songs are scripted in the telugu
of annamacharya's time: c. 1300..
Not many people would identify the above song as telugu on a first hearing!

Even fewer would recognise the song to be about Lord krishna floating on a
banyan leaf in the times of the great deluge..

ramakanth m
ramakant@me.uta.edu
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From: sguha@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Saumyen Guha)
Subject: Re: Rabindranath Tagore - Recordings wanted
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:50:03 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.182002.15180@zip.eecs.umich.edu> srini@gip.eecs.umich.edu (Srini Pichumani) writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.141009.27359@daimi.aau.dk> klauss@daimi.aau.dk (Klaus Seidenfaden) writes:
(Lines Deleated)

>The singer is Sharmila Roy.

As far as my knowledge goes about Tagore Song, she is not and
established singer in that. She is probably from a family settled
in London. I doubt, she has any more recording of note. 

Now about Tagore Song, get hold of any Bengali friend
 or family around. You should be able to find atleast
some collection :-). My suggestion for the singers,

Konika Bandhopadhya
Suchitra Mitra
Hemanta Mukhopadhya(before '75 stuff)
Sagar Sen

Remember, these are just my suggestion :-).

later,

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From: jcampana@epas.utoronto.ca (John Campana)
Subject: Irhad Khan
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:53:37 GMT

I have been asked to interview Irshad Khan, who is presently living in
Toronto. I am in the process of jotting down notes as to the form the
interview will take. I thought at this time, I would give netters the
opportunity to share in this experience by asking you to send me some
of the questions you would like to ask a young artist such as Irshad.
I'm sure we would all like to know more about the Ithawa gharana, the
future of surbahar, the Khan diaspora in the West, gayaki ang etc.
Send your queries to me by e-mail or through the net. Thanks.
John Campana
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