HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mg@elan (Michael Golan)
Subject: Re: Why OS/2 **WILL** fail
Organization: Princeton University, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: 27 Sep 92 05:39:02 GMT

[discussion of OS/2 being too powerful erased]

I'll second that. I almost like the WPS, which must mean that the average user
won't ... There are far too many options, and it is far too easy to crash
the system with them.

Example: open drives, and move config.sys to the desktop ... on the next boot,
you die. I actually did it, by mistake, so I can edit the file.... 

I still don't understand how people are suppose to know which, of all these
objects, are real files vs. real icons vs. logical icon refering to programs,
etc. Put another way: Object in OS/2 seems to be like C++'s object ... given
an object, you can't tell what kind of object it is (the only way I find out
for sure is by opening 'setup' and figuring out the object kind based on the
set of pages I get. Ha!)

Is IBM doing ANYTHING in this respect? Specifically:
1. have "expert" and "normal" modes for the WPS. Dont allow/hide most stuff
   under normal operation (e.g. physical file movements for certain files,
   which can be based on extended attrib). Dont allow destroying/moving
   all the basic objects that came with the system... Dont allow funny
   options to be set..
2. have a "what kind" of object in the menus.

I'm not sure OS/2 will fail for that reason, though. I don't thing NT will
be simpler ... and not everyone are going to stay with DOS or a MAC, would
they?


 Michael Golan
 mg@princeton.edu

ps. The funny thing is, I too, like most hackers, I suspect, dont do anything
with the cute WPS, except launch PM applications, and have a nice clock ...
If any of you have gone from copy/move/del to the WPS, tell us! tell us why,
and if it's not too slow.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: medin@manta.nosc.mil (Ted Medin)
Subject: HELP - os2 windows, how to question
Keywords: windows
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 03:13:47 GMT


 I have several groups in the os2-win and would like to move a group out
of os2-win to its own folder. Like when you migrate applications. 
So how do i go about this?
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: pathak@mitre.org (Heeren Pathak)
Subject: Re: Shredder vs. Trash (was: Why OS/2 **WILL** fail)
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.apps
Organization: Mitre Corporation
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:43:14 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.063551.20153@muddcs.claremont.edu>,
jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu (John H. Kim) wrote:
> 
> craig@ec.uwa.oz.au (Craig Richmond - division) writes:
> >slumos@unlv.edu (Steve Lumos) writes:
> 
> >>>trash can at which point they are erased.  They can be dragged out of the
> >>>trashcan before it is emptied if I want them back.
> 
> >>This is something that the OS/2 shredder does not do. Well, actually I
> >>suppose that if you have undelete enabled, you can bring stuff back
> >>but not as easily.
> 
> What I did was drag a new folder off the templates and drop the shredder
> into it.  Then I used a nifty recycle icon (the three arrows making a
> triangle) you see everywhere nowadays as the folder's icon and renamed
> it "Recycle".  When I want to delete anything, I just drag it onto the
> recycle icon and the file gets moved into the folder just like the Mac
> trashcan.
> 
> Emptying the trash is a little more work than the Mac, you have to select
> all the files and drop them on the shredder.  I prefer it though because
> I can shred the useless stuff while keeping the stuff that has a chance
> of being needed later.  With the Mac, you can only empty the trashcan
> deleting everything in there at once unless you open it up, drag some
> stuff out, empty the trash, and drag the stuff back in.

Put together a OS/2 CMD script that moves all files from the Recylce folder
into the shredder.  Then, add the script into the desktop menu.  It works
just like the Mac!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Heeren Pathak                      | Millions long for immortality who do 
pathak@mitre.org                   | not know what to do with themselves
Mitre Corporation                  | on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
(617) 271-7465                     |	               	-- Susan Ertz
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Disclaimer: Mine not Mitre's.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: goyal@utdallas.edu (Mohit K. Goyal)
Subject: Re: MS ready to release 32-bit Word & Excel?!?! Read on...
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:08:16 GMT

>No list price for NT has been announced.  Add memory to most 386 class machines
>and they are quite capable of running NT.  (most machines are shipped with
>2 or 4 meg, NT needs 8) <- hey, I made a smile.
>
>
Bill Gates has been quoted in various magazines saying that it will probably
be from $395 to $495, though he was speaking in reference to list price,
not any special promotions that could last for years..

I am *very* curious to see how NT will run under 8megs.  I get the 
impression from your message that 8megs is the minimum requirements,
and we all now how well any OS runs under its minimum config.

Will it be fully capable with 8megs, or will it have different "levels"
like Windows has.

Anyways, if it doesn't run well under 8megs, then I'm sure a bunch
of people won't go for it if only because most motherboards have
8 SIMM sockets on them and going from 4 to 8 is no big deal, but
going from 8 to 16(the smallest leap possible) will involve selling
all the 1megs SIMMS and buying 4megs SIMMS.

Either a bunch of people are not going to want to go through the 
trouble, or their will be 1 meg SIMMS everywhere you look!  :)

This all could be moot since everywhere I read, MS is saying that
NT is not intended for the desktop...



Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: ghenniga@NMSU.Edu
Subject: GRE Beta and WfW 2.0?
Reply-To: ghenniga@NMSU.Edu
Organization: New Mexico State University - Electromagnetics Group
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:52:42 GMT


	With all the action in the group I lost track of the thread
discussing problems with Word for Windows 2.0 and the GRE/Win 3.1 beta? Did
anyone solve the problem of WfW 2.0 and it's only giving you one choice for
a font?
	I did figure out why the Equation editor couldn't find the MTEXTRA
FENCES font. It wasn't installed properly by the WfW installation program.
If you go to the "Fonts" selection of Control Panel in WinOS2 3.1 you can
manually install the MTEXTRA and FENCES fonts and the equations come out
nicely. I must say that the TrueType fonts do look good!
 	Anyway, if anyone has solve the "Single Font Selection" problem   
I'd appreciate the fix. I suspect that the fonts weren't installed for some
reason but haven't been able to figure out the cause or the cure.

Thanks,
Gary Hennigan
---------
PhD Student, Computational Electromagnetics
New Mexico State University
email: ghenniga@NMSU.Edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: thite@micrografx.com
Subject: where is ET4-OS2 (latest tseng drivers)???
Organization: Micrografx, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 19:53:44 GMT

the title says it all.  This stuff was posted to comp.binaries.os2,
but in my infinite wisdom I did not archive it away myself.  Now,
of course, I need them.  Anybody???

Tom Hite
thite@micrografx.com
From: lance@lancea.actrix.gen.nz (Lance Andrewes)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: I can't get ELM2.3 to work
Distribution: world
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 06:41:46 GMT
Organization: none

jim@juvat.UUCP writes in article <717579612snx@juvat.UUCP>:
> 
> [re elm giving "Mailer returned error status 2" on send]
> I had the same problem until I did some checking and proved that the
> error Lance is getting is not really returned by the mailer.  There
> is a problem with the path.  I can't remember exactly which one it
> is, but I do remember that I had to change a "/" to a "\" in the
> path so the mail binary could be found.

Yes, that was the problem.  Kai Uwe Rommel suggested I check
the path, and I stumbled on the "/ \" problem.  It does get
a bit confusing when both are used for paths!  The rmail
path had to use the conventional dos "\".

Thanks.
__
 _______  Email: lance@lancea.actrix.gen.nz
////      ZL2AJH    Wellington, New Zealand
From: kslater@sps.pgh.pa.us (Kevin J. Slater)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Cat and Mouse and Autolockup
Keywords: Cat and Mouse Lockup OS/2
Date: 4 Oct 92 11:47:18 GMT
Organization: SPS ACAD BBS, (412) 487-3637

dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:

> In article <kaz.717783135@vincent1.iastate.edu> kaz@iastate.edu (Jimmy Buffet
> >When you have Cat and Mouse running so the cat chases your cursor around
> >on the desktop, Autolockup is disabled.  Is this a bug?
> 
> Depends on how you look at it.  I suspect that Neko works by hooking
> the mouse pointer and spying on all mouse messages that applications
> get.  If it does this, then it is possible that Lockup (which likely
> does the same thing) loses its hook and won't try to auto-lock without
> it. 
> 
> 
> -- 
> David Charlap         |"there aren't 50,000 things for which it's worth writi
> dic5340@hertz.njit.edu| software; and the computer industry doesn't have enou
> ----------------------+ programmers to create that much good software.
> Therefore, most of it must be worthless" -- Boris Beizer "The Frozen Keyboard

Same effect happens with PMGlobe 32. My system never locks up with the 
globe set to desktop.


- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Kevin J. Slater (kslater@sps.pgh.pa.us)       | Believe in the Lord Jesus
Slater Programming Services  | CI$ 73077,2427 | and you will be saved - you &
Glenshaw, PA 15116-0027      | bix kslater    | your household. - Acts 16:31
- - - - - - - - - - - - WESPAC BBS (412) 487-3637 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:31:19 EDT
From: Jerry Bryan <BRYAN@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Quattro Pro Excessive Disk Access

In article <rhoward.717973632@matd>, rhoward@matd.gatech.edu (Robert L. Howard)
says:
>
>smbrush@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Andy Brush @Sverdrup) writes:
>
>>I'm using Quattro Pro in a default-settings DOS session.  It seems to
>>access the hard drive every time I press a key.  I have 8Mb of memory,
>>plenty of swap space, and no other programs running.
>
>>Has anyone else out there seen this?  Have you found a fix?
>
>Hey it does this under plain old MS-DOS too (very annoying
>when working on a notebook PC or a PC with only a Bernouli).
>It's a dog of a spreadsheet and I junked my copy of it....
>

Quattro Pro is recording your every keystroke.  It is a part of the macro
and playback feature.  If you do not need playback, you can turn it off.
This has nothing to do with DOS or OS/2; it is strictly a function of
Quattro Pro's playback feature.

I use Excel on an every day basis, but I find Quattro Pro to be a fine
spreadsheet as well.  Why is it a "dog"?
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: Jan.vOorschot@dnpap.et.tudelft.nl (Jan van Oorschot)
Subject: OS/2 2.0 Terminal Emulator 'Out Of String Space'
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 11:33:08 GMT

Hi,

I'am using the terminal emulator included in OS/2 2.0. It works like
a charm, much to my surprise.

I do have one 'small' problem however. At my lab we are using a keyboard
definition with kermit, X-term and the like which is a mix of VT100
keys, VT220 keys, X-term keys. Purpose of this map is to
be able to use all key-combinations of a 'standard' IBM PC/AT/PS/2 keyboard.

When i tried to program the mentioned terminal with this keymap, after
a half our of typing, i got the message

	'String Space Full'
	
Here i am, on a 486/33 system, 16Mb memory, 350 Mb disk space
a 32-bit OS with virtual memory, and I Am Out Of String Space !!!!!!

This was a well known problem in the older versions of kermit, but i didn't
expect it here. I have searched through the settings, but found no
configuration parameter to expand the string space.

Any Help ?

Jan

-- 
-- Ir. Jan van Oorschot.      --- Email: Jan.vOorschot@dnpap.et.tudelft.nl --
-- Data Network Performance Analysis Project                               --
-- CARDIT, Delft University of Technology ------------ Tel: (31)-15-786179 --
-- P.O.Box 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands ------ Fax: (31)-15-784898 --
--
-- Ir. Jan van Oorschot.      --- Email: Jan.vOorschot@dnpap.et.tudelft.nl --
-- Data Network Performance Analysis Project                               --
-- CARDIT, Delft University of Technology ------------ Tel: (31)-15-786179 --
-- P.O.Box 5031, 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands ------ Fax: (31)-15-784898 --
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: stimpy@nmt.edu (John Reynolds)
Subject: Win-os2 3.1 and ATI drivers
Organization: New Mexico Tech
Distribution: comp.os.os2.apps
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:49:27 GMT

When everything is tested and all of the joe-average-users (not possessing
the beta) have win-os2 3.1 (and perhaps the 32-bit GRE), will we be able
to install the ATI Ultra drivers for Windows 3.1, or will we have to
wait (some more) for ATI to write these too?

Just curious.

-Jr
stimpy@jupiter.nmt.edu


-- 
Windows...It's like a stale cookie.
OS/2..."It's like butter" (SNL quote)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: kaz@iastate.edu (Jimmy Buffet)
Subject: OS/2 beta bug reporting
Summary: OS/2 beta bug reporting
Keywords: OS/2 Beta 32-bit GRE Win-OS/2 3.1
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:13:31 GMT

Can we report OS/2 beta bugs via internet?  If so, what is the procedure
and address?   Thanks!

Jeff "Kaz" Kaczmarek

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: amah@IASTATE.EDU ()
Subject: Re: Why OS/2 **WILL** fail
Reply-To: amah@IASTATE.EDU ()
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 08:20:56 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.232036.21836@muddcs.claremont.edu>,
tlilley@jarthur.claremont.edu (Thomas (Ted) Lilley) writes:
> In article <gyan.717617847@unixg.ubc.ca> gyan@unixg.ubc.ca (Gyan P. Sinha)
writes:
> >In <mg.717572342@elan> mg@elan (Michael Golan) writes:
> >

        (Stuff Deleted)


> >If you move your config.sys to the desktop, you have in effect moved it
> >out of your root directory of the boot drive and into a subdirectory,i.e
> >OS2! 2.0 Desktop. If OS/2 can't find the config.sys file, why shouldn't
> >it crash on bootup? You may as well have deleted config.sys, for all it's
> >concerned.
> >
> >Maybe I'm missing something here. If so, can someone shed some light on
> >this?
> 
> Basically, you've got it right, but the point he's trying to make is that
> it's too easy to do this under OS/2, if you don't understand the system.
> Heck, though, even dos is the same if you don't know what you're doing.  A
> friend of mine deleted command.com off his computer because "it was taking
> up space on the hard drive".
> 
> Ted

I agree 100%. Everyday a few of the computers in our lab hang up because of this
problem. Some students save  their files in root directories and later delete
them by using " del *.*".

Although we have notices in lab asking them not to do this, it keeps happening
at least on a couple of computers each day.


Max.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 2 Oct 1992 08:45:05 CDT
From: Darius Vaskelis <U54345@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: WinFax PRO on OS/2 (was GATEWAY Telepath fax/modem)

>I recently bought a telepath fax/modem to go in my gateway 2000 486/33
>machine. The modem works like a charm, but Gateway is, apparently, now
>an outpost of M.soft. The only software they send with the thing--and
>the only software available from them--for the fax is winfax pro. Winfax
>Pro doesn't work reliably with OS2, or at least I can't get it to. So I
>called PMFAX and FAXPM and neither support the Telepath. Probably the problem
>is the Telepath has the Rockwell shipset. In any case, I'm in deep trouble.
>This is a warning and a plea for help, should anyone have any to offer.

I've got WinFax PRO working 100% of the time on my OS/2 2.0 system.  How?
Grab a copy of the COM2210 or COM2211 serial drivers (both beta) from
your favorite OS/2 FTP site (hobbes) or OS/2 BBS.  It'll probably be
called COMMGA.ZIP or something similar.

(The COMBETA.TXT file in the archive will tell you if it's COMM2210 or
 newer.)

Now, install the new COM.SYS, VCOM.SYS, and MODE.COM.  *DO NOT INSTALL
THE NEW COMM.DRV!*  Leave your original COMM.DRV in place.

WinFax PRO will now work like a charm.  It sometimes screws up if you
give it less than 2M of DPMI memory, but otherwise, it's great.  I've
had no problems running it as a WIN-OS/2 3.0 application, and now with
the new OS/2 beta, a WIN-OS/2 3.1 application.

- Darius
I do not speak for IBM Corp.
--
Darius Vaskelis (IBM Marketing/Technical Support)
University of Illinois Account Team
One IBM Plaza  15-WEA                    Telephone: (312) 245-3532
Chicago, IL 60611                         Internet: U54345@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: gregory@halcyon.com (Gregory Wright)
Subject: HELP! SYS0025, SYS0027
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 03:56:43 GMT

 I need help for a freind trying to install the new beta.  He puts
in the install disk and reboots. After just a second or two the system
hangs with
  OS2 SYS!!0025
  OS2 SYS!!0027.

I have seen these numbers posted before but did not have any problems
at that time.

Any help would really help!
greg.

486-33, 4mb, trident 1M SVGA, 110mb HD.......

-- 
 ________Greg Wright____________   "Sure my YMP is fast, but if it doesn't
|  gregory@bcstec.boeing.com    |   run OS2 I don't need it....."
|     gregory@halcyon.com       |                             
|____uunet!bcstec!gregory_______|               NOT A BOEING SPOKESPERSON.
From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Why OS/2 **WILL** fail
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:19:20 GMT
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

cummins@a.cs.okstate.edu (CUMMINS JOHN WILLI) writes:
>Hummmm.... about deleting a "tree" ("prune" under Xtree)...
>I can do that ONE THING faster with a GUI than most CLIs.

>Anyone got a clue for me on a way to whap a directory and all its children
>into the bit-bucket w/o typing a compound command?  How about a simple
>compound command?  (Must delete SubDirs containing files and other SubDirs w/o
>naming them explicitly)

Easy to do if you're using 4DOS and 4OS2 (and you should be!).  Just
check the DEL help.  DEL /sxyz MYDIR will do it quite well, although
you might want to get rid of the "y" so it'll ask for confirmation.
Or there are several 3rd party programs both for DOS and OS2.  One's
called ZAP.  ZAP MYDIR and kiss it goodbye.
-- 
In the beginning there was nothing.  God said, "Let there be light!"  And there
was light.  There was still nothing, but you could see it a whole lot better.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: rommel@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Kai-Uwe Rommel)
Subject: Available: GTAK 2.01
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 11:54:19 GMT

A new version of the GTAK SCSI tape software is available, version 2.01.
This is a 32-bit version that works under OS/2 2.0 only. You may want to
keep version 1.00 for use under OS/2 1.3 and DOS, if needed.

It is available from:

- ftp-os2.nmsu.edu, pub/uploads or pub/os2/new soon
- ftp.uni-erlangen.de, pub/pc/os2/fauern/tape (soon)

The author of GTAK is Andreas Kaiser, I have done extensive beta testing
and added several enhancements and bug fixes.

News:

- new tar version, 1.10
- enhanced tape control program (new options)
- new device driver

The new device driver does no longer require an ASPI base device driver
but instead works directly on top of the ADD. it is currently tested
(working) with Adaptec 1542 controllers on ISA machines. It may work
with other controllers or not. It does not work with IBM SCSI
controllers on PS/2 machines due to currently unknown problems.

If you used GTAK 1.00 before and had the problem of OS2SCSI.DMD (for
CD-ROM) and OS2ASPI.DMD (tape) locking each other out, you can now
remove OS2ASPI.DMD and use both devices without restrictions.

TAR is now a 32-bit program and does not have memory limitations any
longer.

Please read the readme files included with GTAK 2.01 very carefully.

If you should come across a copy of GTAK 2.00, please discard it and
replace it by this version, 2.00 was an intermediate release on FidoNet.

Note: I made a version of GNU tar (1.10) for OS/2 before, a 16-bit
version, that has been available for a long time now. All my changes
were merged into GTAK 2.01, there will not be a separate GNU tar version
available from me in the future, only this GTAK version.

A few known problems are still in GTAK 2.00, that will be solved in
future versions:

- no compressed archives on floppies or tapes
- no automatic multi-volume support on tapes, you have to use -L
  together with -M, otherwise tar will not properly hande end-of-tape
  situations

You can submit possible bug/problem reports either to Andreas Kaiser or
to me. Use the addresses <ak@ananke.stgt.sub.org> and
<rommel@jonas.ucrc.sub.org>, please.

Kai Uwe Rommel

/* Kai Uwe Rommel --- rommel@informatik.tu-muenchen.de */

DOS ... is still a real mode only non-reentrant interrupt
handler, and always will be.                -Russell Williams

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: sasghw@pica.unx.sas.com (Greg Wust)
Subject: Cat and Mouse II - the sequel
Originator: sasghw@pica.unx.sas.com
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 20:51:45 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.



 Thanks to all who responded.  Unfortunately, when I did a minimum
install, not all the apps were transfered over to my harddrive and
this must have been one of the them.  I asked someone here who was
running OS/2 if NEKO was part of the package and they said they did
not have it either but, alas, they had done a minimum install too.
So . . . 

Will correct tonight.
-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Greg Wust                              SAS Institute Inc
Publications Programmer                SAS Campus Drive, Cary NC 27513
sasghw@unx.sas.com   x7012             919-677-8000
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System)
Subject: Killer apps
Organization: DSIR, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 22:40:24 GMT


Hi there,

I've run DOS and windows apps under OS2 GA and they work, but what about 
some OS2 apps? What are the OS2 apps that I must have to get the most out of 
my OS2? The only OS2 app (not applet) I've run was fractint for OS2 and that
impressed me enough to want more. 

My philosophy is that if all I want to do is use DOS\Windows apps then 
DOS\Windows does it best. 

Thanks for any suggestions

Dale Ogilvie
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Changing Workspace
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:26:58 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1992Sep30.140523.1602@news.uit.no> kjetilk@stud.cs.uit.no (Kjetil Kollin) writes:
>    I was wondering if there is a way to have several configurations of the workspace and 
>changing between them just with just the mouse (like vue for UNIX).
>    I have just a 14" monitor and is is quite easy to drown in information. It would have been nice
>to have just the tools I need when programming on the workspace and other tools when I am writing an
>essay. Any help would be appreciated.

Look in the Master Help Index under "work area," and you should find
the answer you are looking for.

-- 
Timothy F. Sipples      | The OS/2 FREQ. ASKED QUESTIONS LIST is avail. from
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/faq.
Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | Or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP").
of Chicago, 60637       | Family Values Means a Job