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From:         hag@CELIO.UVM.EDU
Subject:      Re: WP small version

Hello -

There are now two products that include a "smaller" version of regular
WordPerfect. They are LetterPerfect and WordPerfect Works. LetterPerfect is
the WordPerfect 5.1-compatible word processor for laptops and less powerful
machines. WordPerfect Works includes LetterPerfect as well as a spreadsheet
that imports Lotus 1-2-3 files, a DrawPerfect-compatible graphics editor,
modem communications software, and a database.

LetterPerfect retail is $149 and WP Works retail is $159, though, of course,
mail order firms should have them for somewhat less.

For those  of you who may already have LetterPerfect, WordPerfect Executive,
or Microsoft Works for DOS, there is a competitive trade-up for $89.

_ Hope Greenberg, HAG at uvmvm.uvm.edu
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From:         Charlie Reitsma <REITSMAC@DENISON.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: macros

>I have a question for all those macro users out there.  I have a macro that
>search for hidden comments.  Upon finding one, it dumps it to text in Doc2 and
>then searches it.  Depending on whether or not the search was sucessful the
>macro is supposed to do something else.  But I cannot figure out how the macro
>will know if the second search worked or not.  Any suggestions?

Use {ON NOT FOUND}{GO}label~~ to set up a branch for the macro to go to when
the search fails.
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From: jackie@yuma.acns.colostate.edu (Jackie Hunt)
Subject: WP Office Task Switching on PS/2s
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:33:33 GMT
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Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

Does anyone know of any problems with the task switching
feature of WP Office on IBM PS/2 systems.  We are using
the task switching feature on clones without any problems,
but on PS/2's the result is a lock-up requiring a power-down.

Any hints, information, direction you can provide would be 
greatly appreciated.

We are running WP Office dated: 2/14/91.

Thanks in advance,

Jackie Hunt                             
Academic Computing & Networking Services    E-mail:  jackie@lamar.colostate.edu
Colorado State University		    Phone:   (303) 491-7315
Fort Collins, CO  80523                     FAX:     (303) 491-1958
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Subject: Re: Onboard Parity Error
From: cctr132@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Nick FitzGerald, CSC, Uni. of Canterbury, NZ)
Date: 28 Jul 92 09:09:08 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

I missed the original but caught a few of the followups:

In article <conibear.712246005@cunews>, conibear@sol.carleton.ca
(Dave Conibear) writes:
> Just to make sure that its memory is working okay, your computer uses
> something called a parity check.
> 
> For every number that is in your computer's memory (every group of 1's
> and 0's), the computer also remembers whether the number contains an
> EVEN or an ODD number of 1's.
> 
> When a computer reports a parity error, it's saying:  there's a spot
> in memory where I was expecting an EVEN number of 1's, but now I see
> an ODD number (or vice versa).

Parity errors can also be caused by faulty memory controller circuitry. 
We had a batch of 286's here once with a series of parity errors.  The
suppliers replaced the RAM several times, including sticking in much
faster chips than should have been necessary - in the end they bit the
bullet and replaced the motherboards.

Another thing which can cause problems is incorrect settings in your
BIOS setup.  Some chipset/BIOS combinations don't prevent you from
selecting settings of wait states and/or shadowing and/or upper memory
relocation (most of these things only apply to 386's) that are garanteed
to fail - I struck this just the other day on a newly supplied machine
which had "bad" settings straight from the manufacturer.

If it's simply due to "poor" RAM, switching out of Turbo mode may let
you get by without problems till the serviceperson comes out.

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From:         John Bigelow <ECON1286@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: NEC Spinwriter 3530 help
              24 Jul 1992 19:59:08 -0500 from <SONNTAJM@CRF.CUIS.EDU>

On Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:59:08 -0500 Jon Sonntag (LutherNet) said:
>Hi,
>
>Given the following:
>1. WP51
>2. NEC Spinwriter 3530
>3. NECSpinwriter 3510/3530 single/dual sheet feeder
>4. No documentation on the printer or sheetfeeder
>
>What do I do to get it to work?  It seems to load the paper into the printer
>and then does nothing.  The WP printer control says action needed is none.  But
>nothing prints?  Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks in advance,
>
>Jon Sonntag
>

I bet that the set-up for this printer, or for these forms specifies
"Pause Before Printing."  That's often done with special forms to give
the user a chance to change the paper-tray or insert the new forms.  If
you've done that before you gave the print command, then you don't need
the pause.  Any-way, to get your job to print use the print key
<SHIFT>-<F7>, choose item 4 (Printer-Control), from the menu, and when
you get to the Printer-Control screen choose "Go" from that menu.  Your
job will print.  If you don't want to go through all this you need to
change the set-up for these forms.  Write back for more details if
that's what you'd like to do.

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From:         SWKMAK@HKUCC.BITNET
Subject: Re: Q: How can I prevent the use of incorrect paper size/type?

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>From: RANDALLJC%CSOVAX.PORTSMOUTH.AC.UK@HKUVM1.BITNET
>Subject:RE: Q:  How can I prevent the use of incorrect paper size/type?
>Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1992 08:52:00 GMT
>Message-ID:<262029B15C9F0003B3@HKUJNT.BITNET>

>Thanks for your reply.  You're right about the option - it's called 'Format
>Retrieved Documents for Default Printer' in my version.  Unfortunately,
>although it _sounds_ like the right thing, it only forces the correct
>printer, not the correct paper size - any 'unrecognised' paper sizes (i.e.
>paper sizes not listed in the 'Format...Page...Paper size/type' screen) are
>by default converted to the [ALL OTHERS] paper size, which I cannot alter
>and which is not the correct size for my printers.
>
>Nevertheless, I am very grateful for the suggestion.
>Cheers.
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The [ALL OTHERS] paper size CAN BE DELETED!

This is done by invoking the PTR program, the steps are:

1.  PTR xxx.prs (the printer definition file, say HPLASIII.PRS)
2.  A screen with the specified PRS file appears, highlight that file and press
    ENTER
3.  A list of changable parameters appears, such as FONTS, FORMS, etc.
4.  Highlight FORMS and press ENTER
5.  You will probably see a list of different form size, either defined by you
    under Sh-F8-2-7 or defined by default, plus the [ALL OTHERS]
6.  Highlight the [ALL OTHERS] and press 2 (to delete)
7.  Save and Quit by pressing F7 (similar to normal WP operations)
8.  Invoke WP as usual; go to Sh-F8-2-7 and the [ALL OTHERS] should have
    gone.
9.  Delele all other forms EXCEPT the one available on the printer.

I have done an experiment on this and find:

1.  Even a file with predefined 8.5"x11" paper size will be reformatted to
    the default A4 paper while is is printed.
2.  If you are quick enough to get to the PRINT STATUS, you will see that the
    document is being sent to the printer on 8.27"x11.69" paper.

I am only a WP user and have never read the WP manual (it is usually kept by
the network administrator). I used the PTR program on a trial and error basis
but didn't feel it user un-friendly. There is a help screen (F3) and the
operations are quite intuiative if you are familiar with WP, e.g. F7 to exit.

I hope the above can help solve your problem.

Stephen Mak
From: fscll@acad3.alaska.edu (Christopher Lee Lott -- One foot in the grave and the other slipping)
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Subject: Printing PS files from disk
Date: 23 Jul 92 06:19:58 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks

Why won't my PostScript files (which I printed to disk in WP5.1 for DOS using
the right driver, and then uploaded to the vax system at school for final
output) print? 

I try to send them to the laser and it takes them, and then dumps the whole
job. IS there something that I should know here? It seems like a
straight-forward enough process to me.... ... 

Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.... 

chris
poet and pauper
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From:         "Ms. Lucia Asturias - Getting fitter?" <LUCIA@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: WP small version

Thanks to all of you who provided me with information!
Letterperfect is the small version and I'm getting
further detail from WP Sales UK.
Enjoy the summer,  all of you!

Lucia

WP Support
Computer Laboratory
The University of Liverpool
England, UK
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From:         Lorne Hammond <051796@UOTTAWA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: filename in document
              22 Jul 1992 00:41:00 GMT from <gerland@UBVMSB.CC.BUFFALO.EDU>

Duh!?
     Okay, what is an FAQ?  Do you mean there is a synopsis of the list mailed
out somehow?  That would mean I could cut down on hundreds of messages I am not
 interested in.  The electronic music list does this.  They have one "chat"
list and a summary mailout that covers individual topics.  I am all for this
for the WP list, but it means far more work than I am able to do.  As I said a
year ago, editing this sort of thing might look good on the old cv of some
already over-worked computing/education/communications specialist.  Hint.

                     Lorne hammond, history, university of Ottawa
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:59:08 -0500
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From:         "Jon Sonntag (LutherNet)" <SONNTAJM@CRF.CUIS.EDU>
Subject:      NEC Spinwriter 3530 help
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Hi,

Given the following:
1. WP51
2. NEC Spinwriter 3530
3. NECSpinwriter 3510/3530 single/dual sheet feeder
4. No documentation on the printer or sheetfeeder

What do I do to get it to work?  It seems to load the paper into the printer
and then does nothing.  The WP printer control says action needed is none.  But
nothing prints?  Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks in advance,

Jon Sonntag

LutherNet/District Support                   sonntajm@crf.cuis.edu (Internet)
Concordia Univ Info Systems                  (708) 209-3210
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From: ddavis@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (dave davis)
Subject: Help needed in Sorting Info in Columns (Table) - WP 5.0
Summary: Need help sorting column data in WP 5.0 (Parallel columns w/protect)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 02:52:33 GMT
Keywords: WP5.0, columns, sort

I'm looking for a way to sort a table of information set up in parallel columns
with block protection under WP 5.0.  Blocking the data inside the table and
sorting just produced a mess.  Any suggestions?

dave
ddavis@aeha1.apgea.army.mil (preferred)

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From:         Laura Milera <DOCWOMAN@PACEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Macros on a network

Last Monday night, I gave a workshop on macros at a local school which
runs WP on a network (Novell??).  When trying to name the macros, an
error message of "access denied" would display.

I finally got around it by having the students key in the drive letter
first and then the macro name.  Also, it was impossible to use the
Alt key in naming.  All in all, pretty disastrous since there were
constant interruptions, and hollers of "nope this doesn't work either".

I don't know much about networks, and the evening coordinator was of
little help.

Does anyone know why this happens? and/or can offer a solution?  Many
thanks.

Laura
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From:         hag@CELIO.UVM.EDU
Subject:      Re: Macros on a network

After having the same problem occur in one of my classes (i.e., getting an
accesss denied message when trying to create a macro) I now start each class
by having everyone set their macro location to their local drive. That is,
Shift-F1-Setup, 6-Location of Files, 2-Keyboard/macro files, set to their
personal drive (may be F:, may be local hard drive, whatever). Not only does
this get around any of the conflicts people may experience when trying to
create macros to reside on a drive to which they may not have rights or to
which a macro with the same name may already reside, but it keeps these
learning macros somewhere where they can easily be deleted at the end of
class.

- Hope Greenberg (HAG at uvmvm.uvm.edu)
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Subject:      Re: CONV: OfficeWriter to WordPerfect ???

We had the same problem here.  If you have access to WPWin, I think the conversi
   on can be done there, although it is not listed(?) as a conversion.
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From:         Russell Perrin <U7584RT@DOEMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Tabular columns

From: Russell Perrin
For the table you showed, I'd unhesitatingly say to do it with tables. Note
that this would not answer your problem with underscoring to longest word, but
tab stops don't help there either. Now there is no question (IMHO) the WP's
tables are very flaky and far from being intuitive to the user who wants to
jump right in, but once you figure it out, there is no comparison in terms of
speed or ease of use with tabs stops. I'd recommend getting out the WP
workbook and sending the user through the chapters on tables. Before long
they'll be telling others "Oh no! don't use tab stops...".
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Subject: Re: Printing PS files from disk
From: cctr132@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Nick FitzGerald, CSC, Uni. of Canterbury, NZ)
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:32:05 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

In article <1992Jul22.221958.1@acad3.alaska.edu>, fscll@acad3.alaska.edu
(Christopher Lee Lott -- One foot in the grave and the other slipping) writes:
> Why won't my PostScript files (which I printed to disk in WP5.1 for DOS using
> the right driver, and then uploaded to the vax system at school for final
> output) print? 
> 
> I try to send them to the laser and it takes them, and then dumps the whole
> job. IS there something that I should know here? It seems like a
> straight-forward enough process to me.... ... 

Yep - it ceratinly -seems- starightforward, but there are a couple of
gotchas to watch out for.

The early-ish WP PostScript drivers were very adroit at making PS files
with veeeeeeery looooooooooong liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiines   8-)

Whilst line-breaks are totally arbitrary according to the official PS
specification (a line-break is just another separator, like space or
tab), the VAX VMS operating system's file system (RMS) has very specific
and detailed ideas about what makes up a text file.  If you upload a PS
file from PC to VAX in ASCII mode - the Kermit and ftp default - you can
run into problems.  This is because the VAX creates the target file as a
specific type, which according to RMS, should have a line-break every
32K (I think - the limit might be different, but you get the priciple). 
I'm not sure what RMS does when it tries to create a file with more than
32K between line-breaks, but it totally munges the file.  If the file is
PS it will almost invariably refuse to print.

The solution is to upload the file in binary mode - the VAX will create
a file of 512-byte, fixed-length records and not give two hoots about
where the line-breaks fall.  When you print such a file, it is probably
a good idea to add the "/passall" qualifier to the print comamnd.

That was "Gotcha #1", "Gotcha #2" is easier.

If your VAX PS printer is actually an Apple LaserWriter mounted via
AlisaShare, you are probably (also ?) having problems caused by WP (most
DOS app's PS drivers do this, actually) prepending and appending
Ctrl-D's to the PS output.  ALW's barf something rotten on Ctrl-D's in
print jobs, so check out your files and delete any Ctrl-D's.  (On a PC
they will probably show up as small diamond characters, using TPU on the
VAX they don't show up at all - at the very beginning of the file press
the right arrow key (the cursor won't move) then press backspace (hunt
out the rest).

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From:         Jay Deuel <JAY@XANADU.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Subject: Re: WP5.1 on Netware 3.11
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   If you *really* want PCs licensed for individual copies of WP to get their
   copy off of a network server, log on as supervisor on that server and do a
   new install from the release disks of WP5.1, specify Custom instead of
   Basic installation, and you'll see NETWORK installation as one of the
   options under there.  I think it should be straightforward after that; I
   did the network installation of DrawPerfect 1.1 without the manual in
   hand, just following the prompts, so WordPerfect 5.1 should be pretty much
   the same.

There are a few other items I would add to this, for those who are new to the
process.  First, I think the NETWORK option is at the same level as BASIC &
CUSTOM installation.  Second, be sure to flag the newly copied files SHARABLE
for the default is NONSHARABLE (which only lets one copy run at a time).
Third, direct the *.SET files to the proper location.  WP suggests a seperate
subdirectory for all *.SET files with WRITE rights for EVERYONE, whereas I
send them to the lab machine's default subdirectory as we delete all contents
when the machine is turned on (by the next user).

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From: wb8foz@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (David Lesher)
Subject: TABSET, again...
Reply-To: wb8foz@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu (David Lesher)
Organization: NRK Clinic for habitual NetNews abusers - Beltway Annex
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 23:05:35 GMT

I've gotten several pieces of mail about my "edit" request for
tablines. I want to thank all those who wrote to me.

1) While a macro to edit tablines is nice, it will not fufill the basic
purpose I had in mind. I want tab editing installed as a integral part
of the standard distributation so that it is available to ALL uses,
especially those just figuring out the complicated parts like:
       c:\ wp
;-}

2) Yes, many OTHER hidden codes such as margin setting would
also benefit from an 'edit existing?' path. But, I figured it
was better to get Orem's attention on one item at a time :_}

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From: tek@ms.uky.edu (Thomas E. Kunselman)
Subject: WordPerfect Table to Spreadsheet
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:33:24 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

Is there any way to convert the data in a table to a format
that could easily be accepted by excel?  

Thanks!
-- 
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