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From: 6anthony_m@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: stiff little fingers: what to get
Date: 7 Nov 92 04:04:58 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <89SSB98J@cc.swarthmore.edu>, sepstei1@cc.swarthmore.edu (stephen epstein) writes:
> In article <2218@sdrc.COM>, festeve@sdrc.COM (Steve Saunders) writes:
>> 
> 
>> Now, to quit rambling and get to my question: I would like info about
>> _stiff little fingers_, and which releases people think would
>> be my best bet (and of course names of any other bands that fall
>> into this class).
>> 
>> Thanks fellow hardcore-heads
>> Steve 
>>  
> Ah, at last somebody with a posting about the greatest band in the history
> of the universe.  The very best SLF record is in fact called "All The Best"
> (a phrase from their song "Wait and See").  It's a double album collection
> of all their singles and b-sides, and is my favorite release ever.  Period.
>  My one sure desert island disc.  All their other records (before their
> reunion) are great too and worth picking up despite some duplication with
> "All the Best."  Given the bands you mention above, I think you'd probably
> like "Inflammable Material", their first album, the best, since it has
> their hardest, most angry sound.  In addition to faves like "Alternative
> Ulster" and "Suspect Device", it contains the song "White Noise", which I
> think lyrically and musically is the single most amazing testimony to the
> power of punk rock.  It's the closest they ever got to hardcore. 
> 
> "Nobody's Heroes" and "Go For It" are also great albums, with no filler,
> but they're branching out in a more pop-oriented direction. Still
> brilliant--melodic and powerful, if no longer one continuous blast of fury.
> Their final studio album "Now Then...(or was it Now This?...) is the
> weakest of the bunch, but still has some great stuff on it, including a
> tremendous cover of the reggae classic "Love of the Common People" (also
> covered by Paul Young, I think).  Their first live album "Hanx!" is the one
> I listen to least, but is also fine, as is their Peel Session EP. 
> 
> Enjoy! And if you ever get a chance to see them live, go.  They might be a
> little older, but the energy is still there.
> 
> Stephen


Wow, another who thinks SLF are great...  ANyway where did you get All the best 
from?????  Ive been looking for along time, I have all their LP's, even the new 
one Flag's and Emblems, which I like.  I just saw them about 4-5 months ago, 
one of the best shows Ive ever been to.  
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: Cannam@borodin.sc.ZIB-Berlin.de (Chris Cannam)
Subject: Re: SCREAMING TREES/LUNA 11-9!!
Organization: Konrad Zuse Zentrum fuer Informationstechnik Berlin
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 12:49:26 GMT



In article <1992Nov10.095341.2549@leland.Stanford.EDU>
   bleach@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jared Bowen Black) writes:

|> Luna sucked dog.


Uh-huh.  What the fuck are you on about?
From: jeffr@ssec.wisc.edu (Jeff Ramin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Primus JPEG's
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:13:28 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Space Science and Engineering Center

I've got a couple Primus images.  One is the cover from "Sailing the Seas
of Cheese", and the other is a shot of the band members with the Golden
Gate bridge in the background.  

If anyone is interested, I'll send them to you.  You'll either have to 
give me ftp access to your machine, or instruct me as to how I can package
a JPEG image in a mail message.

I know I'm gonna drown in mail for this one...
From: lucchesi@iris611.gsfc.nasa.gov (Rob Lucchesi)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: faith healers
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:43:47 GMT
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Ctr - GMSB, Greenbelt,MD

Can anyone tell me about The Faith Healers?   What kind of music .... 
background info ... anything.

Thanks
Rob
-- 

Rob Lucchesi    lucchesi@iris611.gsfc.nasa.gov (or) rob@pinhead.gsfc.nasa.gov
Goddard Space Flight Center    (301) 286-9084
Greenbelt, MD
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
From: avac002@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Cure Music
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 04:15:19 GMT



Does anyone know if the cures soundtrack to canage visors (originally avaliable
with the faith cassette) is avaliable on cd or if the cure have done any other
soundtrack type work. I think the thing I like the most about the cure is the
mood they create with their music. If they wrote songs with less singing in
them (and the words are pretty sparse in many of their songs anyway) they
wouldn't have the problem of feeling cliched about the depresso rut that they
obviously want to grow out of.
Alot of their stuff with the lyrics removed is just plain powerful , graceful
or bueatiful , and something they're very good at.
I hope they don't break up because they can't see their way past a rut that pop
culture holds them in.


Cheers

RPM
From: md3n+@andrew.cmu.edu (Megan E. Dietz)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: SCREAMING TREES/LUNA 11-9!!
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:53:20 GMT
	<1992Nov10.095341.2549@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

If you get a chance to see Screaming Trees, don't miss 'em. They kicked
my ass at the New Music Seminar this summer in NYC, and I had never even
heard of them before.

And is this rumor that they're touring with Alice in Chains true? (If
so, can anyone list dates?) Jesus, if they are, we are all going to have
a huge wankin piece of real grunge heaven, and I will be first in line
to get my share.

Megan
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: jkennard@scott.skidmore.edu (james kennard)
Subject: Re:  re: where does punk and hardcore..
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:30:32 GMT

how do you get alt.music.hardcore?.........what do i have to do?
From: gtclark@festival.ed.ac.uk (G T Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: who did "Satan" song ?
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:48:01 GMT
Distribution: alt

jeffr@ssec.wisc.edu (Jeff Ramin) writes:

>In article <MOCK.92Nov10125609@watt.support.Corp.Sun.COM>, mock@watt.support.Corp.Sun.COM (Joseph Mocker) writes:
>|> 
>|> Does any know the name of, or who did a song that
>|> has some lyrics like:
>|> 
>|> 
>|> 	And Son, when your Mother comes home tell her
>|> 	SATAN! SATAN! ...
>|> 

>group:	Butthole Surfers
>title:	Sweat Loaf {or Sweatloaf, I don't remember}
>cd:	Locust Abortion Technician {all in all, their best effort, IMO}

>ps.  actuall lyrics are "And by the way, when you see your Mom this weekend,
>     be sure and tell her... SATAN! SATAN! SATAN!"


	More recently,they've been using a different intro that draws on
"The End" (you know,the interminable one by the Doors that's at the
beginning of "Apocalypse Now" and has Jim  Morrison saying "Father I'm 
going to kill Yooo.." in a really silly voice) which all about going up
and down the corridoor,putting his brother's lingerie on,etc.
	This can be heard on the double live album.In fact,this was all
a couple of years ago,so they might be doing something else now.

	G.
From: Christopher.Carne@brunel.ac.uk (Christopher J Carne)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: MY BLOODY VALENTINE
Date: 11 Nov 92 12:54:30 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK

The only MBV news I've heard recently is the the band have signed to
Island label. Given the time thet spent making Loveless, I'm not
holding my breath for any new releases. At least Island might be able 
to afford them unlike Creation.

It would be nice to see them tour again though, my hearing has just
about recovered from the last time.

CHR$
From: hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu (DOG BASEBALL!!!)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: TMBG - SHUT UP!!!
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:15:24 GMT
Organization: Ministry of Information, Lower Volta.

Inscribed upon tablet <clopez.02ck@weird.miami.fl.us>, the mighty clopez@weird.miami.fl.us (Carlos Lopez) records thusly:
-=>I think that They Might Be Giants are alternative.  I give them something that
-=>lots of hard edged/guitar driven  alternative music is missing.....Creativity!


	Agreed!  there's too many self-absorbed sullen types in rock-n-roll
lately, I think that They have a lot of good, quirky, offbeat lyrics and they
cheer me up.  How many Morrisseys can one society stand 8)?  I like clever
bands more and more lately..  seeing as you're posting from miami (hope the
cleanup's going well), you probably haven't heard of 'em, but if you see it in
a record store pick it up: Moxy Fruvous.  it's an EP, with 6 or so songs, but
it's well worth the money.  very quirky.
	oh btw:  saw the U2 rockumentary on eMpTyVee last nite (before doof
kendall) and it made me sad.  "Why do you think I'm being nice to you?"  BONO
GET A FUCKING CLUE!  oh, I forgot, they "Don't need their old fans".  with all
this stuff about Sinead going on, we forget one of the most powerful Irish
voices ever.  I guess Bono is turning into a tired old man, losing touch with
the people who made him his millions..  and the killer is, his voice is still
really incomparable.  Just wish we didn't have to pay for tickets to see his
eyes..  (take those fucking fisheyes off once in a while in public!)
	grr, still filled with anger and spite after all these years,

-- 
   /I\          Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke.
  /(*)\         hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu                 
 /IIIII\        "Leave EVERYTHING to ME!" - Powdered Toast Man       
/IIIIIII\       Happiness is a warm gun.
From: poy@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Poy)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: what do you mean formerly of the the
Date: 10 Nov 92 13:34:57 GMT
Reply-To: poy@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Poy)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

is matt johnson still in the the ?  what is the the without matt johnson
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: saeed@watson.ibm.com (Saeed Jaffer)
Subject: Robots of R????
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:58:17 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

Last night I was watching The Box and some song by a band called The Robots of
R??? caught my eye/ear.  It was like weak Pop Will Eat Itself, but still pretty
good.  I *do* remember that they're signed to TVT Records (the same company NIN
is associated with).  

Who is this band??!  I liked this song, and would like an idea of what they're
like.  I may have the name somewhat reversed -- maybe they're called R??? of
Robots?  No, that doesn't sound right, either.  Any help would be appreciated!


----------------------------------------------------------------------
--saeed jaffer        			So after a lot of thought
saeed@watson.ibm.com  			I'd like to reconsider
saeed@athena.mit.edu  			Please
					If it's not too late
					Make it a cheeseburger
							--L. Lovett
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: sherw@ocf.berkeley.edu (Gregory Sherwin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Smashing Pumpkins's album/Jesus Lizard trivia
Date: 11 Nov 1992 17:43:44 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandstorm.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Nov11.134032.17791@bnr.ca> saumure@bnr.ca (Roch Saumure) writes:
>   Well, I followed the advise of this newsgroup and bought the album "Gish"
>from Smashing Pumpkins. You were all right, it's excellent. 
>
>PS: Sorry about the Seattle crack, I've learned my lesson.
>   Roch Saumure.             never be without a vital thought and

Wouldn't you know it - when I move from Chicago following the demise of
Big Black and the 17th generation of Naked Raygun, the local music scene
there starts blossoming with the talents of Jesus Lizard, Ministry,
Smashing Pumpkins, etc.  Fortunately there is a lot more going for the
city's creativity now than just "Wax Trax" fodder/tripe.

As an interesting and barely related note though - does anyone know the
story of how Jesus Lizard got their name?  It's actually derived from a
nickname given to a Hispanic dishwasher in the Chicago area.  Two of
the band members (I can't remember who - can someone fill me in on this
one?) worked at a restaurant with a dishwasher named Jesus.  They remarked
on how his eyes seemed to have slanted pupils, like those of a lizard, and
they started calling him "Jesus Lizardo" -- hence the name.

They are playing tonight at the Kennel Club in SF - should be a great show.

greg
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: lim7@ellis.uchicago.edu (robert  lim)
Subject: John Wesley Harding trivia?
Followup-To: sender  
Keywords: Wes, Pump Up the Volume
Reply-To: lim7@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 06:00:44 GMT

does anyone know why the credits for Pump Up the VOlume give a
special thanks to John Wesley harding?

i don't recall him being in the movie, but hey...

Thanks...

 


-- 
"Poseur Boy"   : o o :    "I don't want to be the only person left on my
 Robert Lim    :  >  :      block without a nuclear... painting."
 lim7@midway.  : --- :                           -Gus Van Sant
 uchicago.edu   12XU!     "Blooie."               -Liz                
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: pugh@sonia.math.ucla.edu (David Pugh)
Subject: Re: Which Beautiful South CD should I buy?
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 19:27:12 GMT

In article <IeyNuGK00UhBE57pZg@andrew.cmu.edu> Joshua John Buergel <jbbb+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>i disagree with josh. i don't think
>>the beautiful south's lyrics are, sick,
>>they're the truth. for example,
>
>They write pop music and most definitely not pop lyrics.
>
>Joshua Buergel - allroy+@cmu.edu - jbbb@andrew.cmu.edu

I disagree. I think they do write wonderful pop lyrics. The fact that
the lyrics are 'strange' is what makes this group so original.
For example

'I love you from the bottom of my pencil-case' (don't remember which song
- is it 'Jennifer'?)

is a refreshing change from what 99% of other artists would write.

David
From: IZZYKL6@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Why I hate Sinead
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:47:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.151832.12916@panix.com>, on 11 Nov 1992 15:18:32 GMT,
jis@panix.com (Jack Szwergold) writes:

>during the Gulf War.  In fact, I would have rather went went to war with
>the pure purpose of killing Hussein rather than say we are liberating the
>"poor" Kuwaities (is that spelled right?).  I mean, they are richer than
>sin, and can easilly buy there own army...

But Kuwait _did_ buy their own army...you don't actually think the US
went into Kuwait without knowing they will be paid dearly by the
government?  It's amazing that some people still insist that the
Americans are godly people because they risked their lives and spent
billions of dollars so they can "help out" Kuwait and never really
expect anything in return.

Oh, another point...what the hell is this thread doing in this
newsgroup???!  I haven't followed this thread, but there are plenty
of other places where this discussion can continue.

-Hagop
(To whoever mentioned this...it's a big of an exaguration to say a
million Iraqis died in the war.  Contrary to what the US government
said, the Iraqi Army wasn't nearly as big.  It's a moot point, anyways,
since any single person who dies because of a "War" is a tragedy in
itself and can never be justified, no matter what the argument.)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: rons@quads.uchicago.edu (Josh Ronsen)
Subject: Re: Hex - What is up?
Reply-To: rons@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:07:59 GMT

In article <BxGqqo.5Bz@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> gorf@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Craig Collister) writes:
>
>Some questions:
>
>Is Game Theory any good?
>
	I was very disappointed with their album "Lolita Nation". I
couldn't even begin to describe it: very dull stuff. And not even an
interesting dull, just a sorta "why did I spend money on this?" dull.
In my book: avoid.

	-Josh Ronsen
	rons@midway.uchicago.edu
From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: wanted: Cure mailing list address
Keywords: cure mail list address wanted
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 04:14:03 +1300
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)


Would someone email me the address for the Cure mailing list please?
Thanks.



Alan B                           "Well, we were just laying there
Dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz        And this ghost of your other lover walked in
Dawghaus BBS +64 6 357-9245       And stood there.
Palmerston North, New Zealand     Made of thin air. Full of desire..

...Why these mountains? Why this sky? This long road? This empty room?"
                                                        - Laurie Anderson
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: kinsler@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Paul Kinsler)
Subject: Re: Why I hate Sinead
Organization: Physics Pit, The University of Queensland
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:00:26 GMT

In article <BxFrJ2.JqE@acsu.buffalo.edu>, feit@acsu.buffalo.edu (Elissa Feit) writes:
|> I didn't interpret R. Caley's post as being anti-American at all. I see
|> the U.S. as being quite fucked up w.r.t. foreign policy... and it's not just
|> the British (govt.) behind the doings in Ireland... they have *plenty* of CIA
|> support...

You are right, of course: it isn't just the British Govt behind the bombings
and murders in Eire and the British mainland.

There is also the IRA, other republican fanatics, and the unionist fanatics.
Come to think of it, don't these do most of the actual *killing*?

BUT! how many people think Sinead really has retired from "popular" music?
-- 
+soluble fish+
Masks beneath masks until suddenly the bare bloodless skull.
Salman Rushdie, "The Satanic Verses"
From: MURPH@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (M.A. Murphy)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Viva...Del Santo!
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:39:38 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

In article <1992Nov12.03537.9776@ms.uky.edu>, brian@nx15.mik.uky.edu (Brian hoffman) says:
>
>Has anyone else heard this song by Southern Culture on the Skids?  It's
>like the #1 song at our station now and I was just wondering if this was a
>regional thing or what.  It's funny as hell, though.  If you haven't heard
>it, find it, request it or something!
>-Brian

I have the album _Too Much Pork For Just One Fork_ but was unaware of new
or forthcoming material from this band.  _Too Much Pork..._ is a scream!
Tell me more about their new material.  Who's putting it out?  If it were
still Moist/Baited Breath I'd probably have heard about or seen it by now.
-------

                                            Murph

                                            Michael A. Murphy
                                            MURPH@MAINE.BITNET

If you do not understand my silence
you will not understand my words.
From: soo@cs.arizona.edu (Michael Soo)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Elvis Costello
Date: 5 Nov 92 06:51:49 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <Eey30xi00iV3A5gmFM@andrew.cmu.edu> ferrall+@andrew.cmu.edu (Chris Ferrall) writes:
>>  
>> "What's so funny 'bout peace, love, and understanding?"
>>                                   -Elvis
>
>Not to be a stickler, but E.C. didn't write that.  "What's so funny..."
>is a Dave Edmunds song.  
>

Close.  It's actually a Nick Lowe song.

Mike
soo@cs.arizona.edu
From: clopez@weird.miami.fl.us (Carlos Lopez)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: LIVE's old group
Date: 8 Nov 92 23:50:23 EDT
Organization: Weird BBS [Amiga] (305)553-3207 S. Miami, FL USA

Why?  Is their music not as good as before?  That was a great single (so great
I can't remember the name?)!!!  I don't think they've sold out.  They're just
moderately successful.  Anyway, a group could be incredibly successful, but not
sell out.  Alternative rock listeners should ease up with that.  If it  doesn't
affect the music, it doesn't matter.  I don't think groups like REM and U2 have
sold out.  I mean U2 now, at times, are a bit trivial, but what can they
do...they're huge!!  REM, hey, those few little pop tunes that they wrote fro
Green and Out of Time.....I liked them.  The other material was
very good and those pop tunes did not hurt the albums at all.  Automatic for
the People isn't a sell out album, either.  Millions of records sold doesn't
mean the album isn't as good as another that didn't even go gold.  
Those REM pop tunes weren't a musical first or anything out of this world but
they were catchy...a nice little diddly.  The best of groups have those.  Some
of the best songs are the simplest.  These, though, aren't but I digress.  
Going back to Live, I read or saw on TV the lead singer say something about
their debut album--It stayed true to their sound, partly due to producer Jerry
Harrison.  A well respected musician/producer and another perfect example of
being more than moderatley successful and not being a sell out.  I like the
sound that U2 has now than any of their stuff before.  I wonder how much Eno
had to do with it?  I just hear more Eno in this album than the other U2 albums
he was involved with.  I may be mistaked about how much involvement.
Now a group that does bother me is Genesis (I know there not alternative). I'm
not a Genesis fan, but the stuff with Peter Gabriel and Genesis before the 1983
album are just much better than what they are doing now.  I'll go even before
that and say that they were much better before the eighties.  Abacab (1981) was
good and so was the self-titled 83 album.Once in a while they're OK.  Phil
Collins also is not as good as what he does with Genesis. Genesis have
disintegrated and are over praised.  Gabriel, though, is great!
I may go on but I also wonder what mass America sees in some of the music they
listen to.  I also don't understand why consumers just let radio and MTV
dictate what they want to listen to and buy instead of themselves searching for
what they want and let radio or whatever supplement their search.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: igj@amy13.stanford.edu (Ian Glen Jacobs)
Subject: Re: New King Missile album _Happy_Hour_
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Distribution: alt.music.alternative
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 22:21:13 GMT


> 
> As far as I know the album is called "They" and I have no fucking idea  
what
> "Dog Fly Religion" is.
> 
> -- 
>     / \      Reverend fnord                 | "King Kong died for your  
sins!"
>    /   \     fnord@panix.com                | 
>   / <0> \                                   | "Don't just eat a  
hamburger, 
>  /_______\   Church of Obfuscatology, Inc.  |  eat the HELL out of it!"


King Missile (Dog Fly Religion) was the bands name at the time...
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: infinity@iesd.auc.dk (Thomas Hedemann)
Subject: Re: LEATHERSTRIP-KLUTE FAN CLUb
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University
Date: 12 Nov 92 11:12:09


This is what I like to see...

Finally some people who like the real stuff!!

I think that SOLITARY CONFINEMENT is the best CD I've ever come
across. You should check out another danish industrial band called
PSYCHOPOMPS though. 

To anybody in Europe interrested in LeaetherStrip, contact the 
german G.A.W.M. fan club. 

For further information about this, send mail/e-mail to

infinity@iesd.auc.dk


"May your ears bleed"
From: cf603@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dave Sill)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Need a band name?  I've got one...
Date: 12 Nov 1992 17:26:21 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cf603@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dave Sill)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Ozone Bozos

-- 
Dave Sill
Play: cf603@cleveland.freenet.edu
Work: de5@ornl.gov
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