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From: hankedr@mail.auburn.edu (Darrel Hankerson)
Subject: Re: Need util to allow .EXE to run in a window
Organization: Auburn University, Alabama
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 11:56:43 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.185435.2921@seas.gwu.edu> ilan@seas.gwu.edu (Ilan Berkner) writes:
>
>I used to have this program that would allow an OS/2 executable to run
>in a windowed OS/2 session.  Apparently, some non-PM OS/2 programs have

Get tag from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu in pub/os2/1.x/programming/ and try
 tag /win filename

tag is advertised as a public-domain markexe.
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Where do things go when you move them to a folder?
Date: 22 Dec 92 17:15:29 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Dec18.074145.7000@kub.nl> hoppie@kub.nl (Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers) writes:
>If you did not use HPFS, did not use a DOS session to look for the file, and
>your scan program does not choke on hidden files, we have some riddle here.

Some icon/objects don't have files.  For instance, the scheme palette.
There is no file attached to it.  It's just a data structure stored in
INI files and in EAs.  DOS won't find either of these.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: samiam@netcom.com (Scott Moore)
Subject: OS/2 2.1 INSTALLATION PROBLEMS
Summary: Various difficulties with os/2 2.1 beta
Keywords: OS/2 2.1 INSTALLATION PROBLEM
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 00:37:59 GMT

The subject speaks for itself. First try:

  Installed over 2.0 + SP. Everything looking ok, but after changing
  display to TSENG 1024x768x256 and executing a seamless windows
  program, it bombs like the fat man (pointer still moves, but the
  wps is completely unresponsive). CTL-ALT-DEL not working,
  hard reset.

Second try:

  Ripped out the os2 subtree, based on an earlier experience with
  the SP not tollerating the current setup (IE, forced 
  reinstall of all code). Made MAJOR error this time. I <sniff>
  selected "USE PRESENT WINDOWS DESKTOP" which would now work
  since my windows 3.1 is now compatible with os/2's.
  System comes up, but when executing any windows program
  "GA FAULT: SBPRO MODULE" ie, it does not like the sound blaster
  driver it got automatically from my present win 3.1.

Third try:

  Ripped EVERYTHING (including the root hidden files). Forgot 
  the system was set to boot os/2, ie, my dos boot was no
  lost.. i'll spare you the rest of that story, it's pretty
  ugly...
  Brought up the 2.1 onto a CLEAN system (no trace of os/2 2.x
  files). Installs ok, then on the "boot to os/2" hangs up 
  completely. Was never asked for dual boot/boot manager etc.
  (seems to default to dual boot).

Well, the story is not over yet, but beware of the above items
if you are trying to get it up !

                                      [sam]

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samiam@netcom.com     | important than your 
Santa Cruz, CA USA    | mother"
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From: eric@tgm.CAM.ORG (Eric Trepanier)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: IBM BBS #tel no. in Montreal?
Date: 21 Dec 92 05:29:32 GMT
Organization: Me? Organized?

Hello everyone,

Well the title says it all.  I am looking for IBM's Montreal BBS phone no.  

Also, I'm in the process of buying a new serial chip.  I hear that with
high speed telecommunications (14.4kbps), it would be wise to get a
buffered chip.  I've seen mentions of different chip version no., what
is the one I should get?  (I think it's 16550AFN but I'm not certain).
Also, does OS/2 automatically know it's dealing with this chip or
do I need some special driver or something?  Will Telix (running in a 
DOS box) make use of the 16 byte buffer too?

Thanks,

Eric
--
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eric@tgm.CAM.ORG
"Everybody has a right to believe in something.
 I believe I'll have another beer."
From: chris@cad.gatech.edu (Chris McClellen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Why does OS/2 think Windows apps keep running?
Date: 23 Dec 1992 10:09:42 -0500
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology, CAE/CAD Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: cae.cad.gatech.edu

In article <FVV8VB1w165w@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca> frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca writes:
>Hi all:
>
>I've been having a minor problem that is just taxing my patience:  When
>I run a Windows application under OS/2 (seamless; using WinOS2) for some
>reason when I exit the application OS/2 often seems to think that the
>application continues to run (the icon has the cross-hatches on it
>indicating the icon is active).
>

The problem is that OS/2 loads up a ClipBoard, and a DDE "exchange agent"
that runs with Win-OS2.  Now, when you start a WIN-OS2 session, any subsequent
windows sessions that are NOT marked to be run as a SEPERATE SESSION have
their icons remain open until ALL MSwindows (of the same session) apps
are closed.  So, that also means you need to kill the DDE client, and
clipboard.  Hit control-escape, and you will probably see them going,
even after you quit the windows app.

As an example, if you run Word 2.0 & Excel seamlessly, and decide to exit
Excel, even after excel quits, the icon is still looks busy.  That's because
the windows subsystem hasnt released its hold or whatever on it.  Now,
if you quit Word 2.0, both will become "unbusy".  Same goes for if you
had say... 5 seamless apps going (seamless or nonseamless, it doesnt matter.
Icon still gets marked as busy.), any that you close will still be marked
busy until all are closed.


But, I think your main problem is that "dde client/clipboard", but
also, just make sure Win-OS2 isnt hanging around after you wuit your
MSwin apps, because they dont get unshaded till it is gone either.
From: lmp8913@zeus.tamu.edu (PRESTON, LISA M)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Disk Interleave??  What the general rule of thumb??
Date: 21 Dec 1992 17:46 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: zeus.tamu.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <BzMu6G.L4p@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, th9708@meibm8.cen.uiuc.edu (Todd Lee Henderson) writes...


->I posted about this several days ago and got very little reponse.
-> 
->Some time ago there was a discussion of the proper interleave for disk
->under OS/2.  I only got part of the discussion and seem to remember that
->the appropriate interleave was 1 greater than the bios recommended as the
->optimum.  Any better facts on the subject??
-> 
->The disk to be used specifically is the WD 2200 214 meg IDE drive with
->at least 512k HPFS Cache(unless someone wants to let me in on the 'best' size
->cache for 16 meg systme memory??)
> 
	I belive that all modern IDE drives are 1:1 interleave, and cannot
be changed.  In fact, on some drives, the low-level format can be destroyed
by attempting that.

	If you are checking the optimum interleave using the AMI setup program,
it may give you a different "optimum" interleave, as I noted when I installed
my WD 125 meg drive, but this was because on these high-speed drives, the 
bios must be shadowed to get the highest transer rate (OS/2 does this for you).

I'd say leave it alone. If you need more help, call WD at 1-800-832-4778;
they are very helpful.
LISA

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: samiam@netcom.com (Scott Moore)
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1 INSTALLATION PROBLEMS
Keywords: OS/2 2.1 INSTALLATION PROBLEM
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 05:50:13 GMT

Followup to last letter:

Last try was install of os/2 2.0 GA and then os/2 2.1 on clean disk.
Left in VGA mode. Hangs up immediately after seamless session exits.
This version just does not like the Tseng ET4000, no how no way.
Also discovered a new problem. Upon attempting to open the C: drive
object, got a "extended attributes not found error". Can't get into
my C: drive !

On the shelf it goes !

                                                  [sam]

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Santa Cruz, CA USA    | mother"
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From: kslater@sps.pgh.pa.us (Kevin J. Slater)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Tseng SVGA stuff, WinOS/2 Setup..
Date: 31 Dec 92 05:54:00 GMT
Organization: SPS ACAD BBS, (412) 487-3637

I recently decided to purchase a better ISA video card. (I had a Paradise 
PVGA1C based board with 512k and NO DRIVERS.) I decided on a Tseng ET4000 
based card, mostly because drivers come with it in the SP. I don't have 
any documents on my SVGA monitor however. How can I tell what mode my 
SVGA card is using to talk to my monitor at a given resolution? The 
monitor does support 640x480, 800x600 and 1024x768. I'd like to be using 
the 800x600 mode (for speed and icon size reasons, mostly) but, this SVGA 
board will support several different vsync frequencies including a putrid 
56.2Hz mode.

It will also support 60Hz and 72.7Hz modes. I have a vmode utility by 
which I can request a particular refresh rate, but since it's a DOS 
program how does this mix with OS/2?

One other item: How does one get a normal Windows setup program? The one 
I've got in \os2\mdos\winos2 only allows me to change the network for 
WinOS/2. I have a 65000 color 640x480 driver for my SVGA card that I'd 
like to use for my WinOS/2 driver. Only thing is that the instructions 
for loading this driver assume that you're installing into a normal Windows
system, not OS/2.


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From: bodo@phase.Princeton.EDU (Bodo Huckestein)
Subject: Parallel port tape backup, anybody?
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Dept. of EE, Princeton University
Distribution: all
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 23:40:54 GMT

Does anybody know of a way to backup an OS/2 HPFS through the parallel
port? CMS and Irwin do not support OS/2 on their parallel port tape
backups. Is there a way to use a Trantor SCSI adapter and a SCSI tape
drive? Has anybody done that?
I need something to run of the parallel port since I need to backup a
notebook HD.

Bodo
From: lmp8913@zeus.tamu.edu (PRESTON, LISA M)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: msd.zip
Date: 3 Jan 1993 16:54 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: zeus.tamu.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <C098zJ.1q9@knot.ccs.queensu.ca>, calvert@QueensU.CA (John Calvert) writes...
->Has anyone tried to use this program under OS/2? I couldn't get it
->to run because it reported an incorrect version of DOS:
-> 
->"This program cannot be run under this version of DOS"
-> 
->I tried this in 4OS/2, 4DOS and OS/2 DOS. I also tried to open the
->DOS on Drive A window but this locked up.

Use the DOS_VERSION setting in the object settings to set it to DOS 5.00 (
MSD.EXE 5,00,255 is what I have, if I recall correctly)

LISA
From: dabl2@nlm.nih.gov (Don A.B. Lindbergh)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: MPU Support for MMPM/2
Date: 22 Dec 92 23:20:48 GMT
Organization: National Library of Medicine

In article <Bzo4Bp.x40@austin.ibm.com> gregb@pro-lep.cts.com writes:
>I learned (through an external source) last night that IBM *does*
>have someone in Boca working on an MPU driver for MMPM/2.  He
>mentioned that he had a deadline, but not what it was :-)  This means
>that there's hope.
>
>__________________________________________________________
>Greg Bryant                                 (512) 795-0323
>Delta Music Systems                             Austin, TX
>INET: gregb@pro-lep.cts.com
>ARPA: wixer!pro-lep!gregb@cs.utexas.edu
>Just consulting.   Not an employee.   Not representing IBM

Alright!! thanks for the news!
--Don Lindbergh
dabl2@lhc.nlm.nih.gov
From: SPGJAF@CMSA.Berkeley.Edu (Joseph A. Faracchio)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Serial I/O cards?
Date: 28 Dec 92 19:46:47 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley (TCPIP)
NNTP-Posting-Host: cmsa.berkeley.edu

Does that Boca board use any of the higher IRQs above 7?
 
In the same vain.  Does anyone know of a 2 serial board that enables you
to set COM3/4 to IRQs 10,11,15 etc (i.e. the little used IRQs of a 16 bit
adapter)????
            thanks .. joe.f.
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: msd.zip
Date: 3 Jan 93 22:49:45 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <C098zJ.1q9@knot.ccs.queensu.ca> calvert@QueensU.CA (John Calvert) writes:
>Has anyone tried to use this program under OS/2? I couldn't get it
>to run because it reported an incorrect version of DOS:
>"This program cannot be run under this version of DOS"
>I tried this in 4OS/2, 4DOS and OS/2 DOS. I also tried to open the
>DOS on Drive A window but this locked up.

Yes.  Create a program object for MSD.EXE (I'm assuming that's the
executable).  Do so by dragging a program object from your Templates
folder to any destination folder (like "DOS Programs").  Fill in the
program name (and path).  Click on the right arrow at the bottom right
of the window.  Click on the DOS Settings button.  Scroll down until
you find DOS_VERSION.  At the bottom of the list in the upper right
window, add:

MSD.EXE,3,30,255

(This will tell OS/2 2.0 to pretend it is DOS Version 3.30 when
reporting the DOS version number.)

Close up everything, then double click on the program object to run
MSD.EXE.  Note, however, that this program may need to run under
native DOS.  It is a diagnostic program, and OS/2 is going to prevent
the program from accessing certain hardware.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green)
Subject: new video drivers in 2.1!?
Reply-To: mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green)
Organization: Columbia University, New York
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 07:32:43 GMT

Would someone please post an authoritative list of the video drivers
included in the 2.1 beta.  In particular, which ones have 1024x768x256x70 Hz
or better, and which ones have seamless Windows!?  I need to choose a new
video card ASAP!  Thank you very much.  Meir

(Email is appreciated, if you are willing :-)

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* * * * * * == Meir I. Green == AmateurPkt N2JPG@W2XO.PA.USA.NOAM
 * * * * *  = mig@columbia.edu= Amateur IP N2JPG@uhm.ampr.org
* * * * * * =================== BC-Goliath green@smtplink.barnard.columbia.edu
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Beta 2.1 in IBM-BBS
Date: 1 Jan 93 23:36:12 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

The newsgroup comp.os.os2 does not exist; please ask your system
administrator to remove it from your site.

In article <1993Jan1.011337.773@news.columbia.edu> fiv2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Fidel I Villa) writes:
>Why don't IBM put it also in software.watson.ibm.com like the service
>package? It would save us a lot of $. Just a suggestion.

OS/2 2.1 beta is a complete, standalone, functional operating system.
It does not require any previous version in order to operate.  It
contains copyrighted code from IBM, Microsoft, and others.  While IBM
might feel generous, Microsoft may not be as happy about having freely
available Win-OS/2 3.1.  They still charge for their version of
Windows, after all.

On the other hand, you can obtain it for $15 by calling 800-3-IBM-OS2.
On CD-ROM, granted.  In the U.S., granted.  Also, the license
accompanying this CD-ROM permits you to use the code for a limited
time, and it permits you to distribute up to 10 copies "within your
organization."  You may interpret the word "organization" broadly, I
suppose.

-- 
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From: rhoward@matd.gatech.edu (Robert L. Howard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: DOS windows in OS/2-- default size?
Date: 3 Jan 93 01:47:11 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute

sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:

>In article <19136@mindlink.bc.ca> Jeremy_Reimer@mindlink.bc.ca (Jeremy Reimer) writes:
>>Is there a way I can get certain DOS windows to always come up full-size (not
>>full-screen, but a full-sized 80x25 window)?
>>Right now they always come up about 1/3 the size of a full window.  I don't
>>mind this for all applications, but some I want to default to full-size.

>Hold down SHIFT while dragging the border(s) until the window is full
>size.  This will preserve size changes.

Will holding SHIFT will clicking on the Maximize button (on the
top right) do the same thing?  (It would be easier).

Robert
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From: roland@vnet.ibm.com (Roland Cise)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 07:23:52 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: 32-bit Trident drivers hang my system as well !
Reply-To: roland@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM UK Labs Ltd, Hursley Park, England
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.1
            <724638396snx@kdrealm.linet.org>

In <724638396snx@kdrealm.linet.org> Mikel Beck writes:
>roland@vnet.ibm.com writes in article <19921214.011656.54@almaden.ibm.com>:
>
>>   1. In a pure DOS session -
>>      Copyied over the new SVGA.EXE and ran SVGA ON DOS. Why did this create
>>      SVGADATA.PMI for an IBMSVGA Chipset ? After several attempts at mucking
>>      around with this a SVGADATA.DOS was created for a Trident 8900. This was
>>      about 21200 bytes. What I did to produce this, heaven knows ! Is this
>>      correct ? Anyway this was renamed as SVGADATA.PMI in D:\OS2 directory.
>
>        I think that the "SVGA ON DOS" command prompts SVGA to produce a
>        SVGADATA.DOS file instead of SVGADATA.PMI. I seem to remember the
>        documentation ( for the 32-bit drivers ) saying that you should
>        copy this ( SVGADATA.DOS ) over the SVGADATA.PMI file.
>
>>   2. Copied over IBMVGA32.DLL, BVHSVGA.DLL, fonts and the 600x480x256 driver
>>      as IBMDEV32.DLL. I did not copy the VSVGA.SYS file.
>>   3. Ensured CONFIG.SYS settings were OK for SVGA.
>>   4. Rebooted. Machine hung with blank screen, cursor flashing top LH corner.
>> This is all I have ever managed to get. What am I doing wrong ?
>
>        Have you installed any video drivers since you've applied the
>        CSD? If so, you need the DISPLAY.DLL from the CSD in your \OS2
>        directory.
>
>        I installed the 32-bit drivers when I had a Trident 8900c ( with
>        1 MB of RAM ) in my machine. It hung the first time, then I re-applied
>        the CSD and re-installed the 32-bit drivers. Then it came up without
>        a problem.
>

Well folks, this may or may not be viewed as egg on the face time.

After discussing this problem with one of lads in Boca Raton it seems that
under certain conditions the SVGA.EXE will detect IBM SVGA when the port
addresses in the XGA range appear to respond as active. This clue led me to
wonder if indeed any of my hardware could in fact be using a port in the XGA
range. What about my Hardcard I thought ! Well I removed it altogether, and
yes you guessed, SVGA works a treat.

Why didn't I think in the first place that just because I have an SVGA card
already installed that the SVGA.EXE might just believe my hardcard was an XGA
adapter.

Well if anyone has this problem it is easily rectified by switching the Plus
XL105 Hardcard i/o address from the default of 170-177,376-377 to
320-327,32E-32F. Six months or more just to find this out. Boy do I feel sick.

Roland Cise                       Internet: roland@vnet.ibm.com
CICS/ESA Data Interface
IBM UK Labs Ltd, Hursley,
England, SO21 2JN
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: pee9901@ultb.isc.rit.edu (P.E. Erkkila)
Subject: MULTIPLE COPIES OF NOV PDK 
Originator: pee9901@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:31:24 GMT



 I think something's up with the fulfilment center. I got 3 copies of
the november CD myself and 3 sets of AT and T class headers...
That's 3 people who have said they have had the same thing happen. Also
Mine havn't been picked up by airborne express either.. And My credit
card was charged for all three of them...

Anyone else ?


pee
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From: g1nickut@cdf.toronto.edu (Nick Zahariadis)
Subject: Different desktop popup menu!
Originator: g1nickut@sass.cdf.toronto.edu
Organization: University of Toronto Computing Disciplines Facility
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 20:56:08 GMT

 Hi all,
 I am having a problem with the desktop. I can't get the desktop popup
 menu the way I used to. All I get now is:

 Open           ->
 Refresh
 Help           ->
 -----------------
 Move...  
 Create Shadow...
 -----------------
 Find...
 Select         ->
 Sort           ->
 Arrange

 This all started happening after I ran the 'xfeel' program and the
 'wpsbkp' utility, both from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.

 Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'd like to shutdown my system
 using the 'Shutdown' option of the Desktop, as opposed to Ctl+Alt+Del.

 Nick.

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 to mess up beyond repair today."
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc