From: hho@aludra.usc.edu (** N.T.K.C.D. ***)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: need help in translation for qualification
Date: 22 Jul 1992 13:04:11 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <BrrJzo.7s3@resmel.bhp.com.au> duong@resmel.bhp.com.au (Dzung Quoc Duong) writes:

SOmeone can do the translation, but here are the steps for
education after a high school diploma (ba(`ng trung hoc) in USA 

1st the degrees:

Technician
	AS/AA		Associate in Science (AS) or Associate in Art (AA)
	+ all the associates
Cu+? Nhan
	BS/BA		Bachelor of Science (BS) or Bachelor of Art (BA)
	+ all the bachelors
Cao Ho.c
	MS/MA/MBA	Master of Science or Master of Arts
	+ all the Masters
	JD		Juris Doctor
*Si~
	Phd		Doctor of Philosophy  (Most fields)
	D.Opto		Doctor of Optometry	
	DDS		Doctor of Dental Surgery 
	D.Pharm		Doctor of Pharmacy
	DE		Doctor of Engineering
	D.Sc		Doctor of Science
	DP		Doctor of Pubic Aministration
	
Most people don't actually get the AS, they just continue to the BS.

ENGINEERING 
	AS (2) -> BS (2) -> MS (2) -> PHD (3-4)	= 9-10 years
				   -> DE (3-4)  
	* BS is the minimum to work as an Engr or to take the
		EIT -> PE test, most will stop at BS

MEDICAL 
	AS/AA (2) -> BS/BA (2) -> MD (4 + 2-3 intern) -> MS (specialize 2-3)
						-> PhD (research)
	* MD is the minimum to see patient, most will stop at MD

DENTAL
	AS/AA (2) -> BS/BA (2) -> DDS/DMD (4) -> MS (specialize 2-3)
					      -> PhD (research)
	or if you are really sure

	AS (Dental Assitant 2yrs) -> BDH (Bachelor of Dental Hygience 2 yrs)
		then continue with DDS/DMS (3 yrs)

	or AS in Dental Lab (2). The Dental Technician make lots of $
	by opening a Dental Lab. 90% of US DDS will not do their own 
	work :-) They spend the time seeing patients and send everything
	to the labs (fake teeths, crowns, etc)

PHARMACY
	AS/AA (2) -> D.Pharm (4) -> MS (specialize)
				 -> PhD (research, a must to che^' thuo^'c)
OPTOMETRY
	AS/AA (2) -> BS/BA (2) -> D.Opto (4) -> MD (specialize)
					     -> PhD (research)
		D.Opto is minimum to see patient :-)
	or if you are really sure

	AS (Dental Technician 2 yrs) make glass -> BSO (2 yrs)
		The BSO can open an optometry store just to fill
		prescriptions then -> D.Opto (2 yrs)

	In Opto, 80% of the D.Opto income come from filling prescriptions like
		the BSO. Alot of VN are going this route.
	   
LAW

	AA (2) -> BA (2) -> JD (3) -> LLM (2) -> (doctor of law?)..

		JD is the minimum to take the Bar exam to become a lawyer

BUSINESS

	AS (2) -> BS (2) -> MBA (2) -> Phd (3 yrs)
		Most good business school require a 2 years of fulltime
		work minimum between BS & MBA

ACCOUNT

	AS (2) -> BS (2) -> MS (2) -> PhD (3 yrs)
		BS is the minimum to take the CPA test where you
		will become "Certified Public Accountant"

All mistakes are my hands :-)))

1 question :-)
Do you call someone with a BSCS an Engineer?
Co' the^? na``o go.i 1 ngu+o+``i vo+'i ba(``ng cu+? nha^n ve^``
DDie^.n Toa'n la`` 1 ngu+o+``i ky~ su+???

At USC, CS is under nature math, & they don't have formal 
Engineering training (Physics, Static, Dynamics, Thermo, drafting, etc)
:-)))

DDOn't blame me OK all the CS hehehe 
:-)))
H.









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