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From: g5000005@nickel.laurentian.ca
Subject: Looking for an early version of OS/2
Organization: Laurentian University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 00:12:15 GMT

Greetings!

	I am looking to buy an early copy of OS/2 that will run on a 286
computer. My reason? I am seriously considering upgrading from my 286, but
to what I don't know (yet). I use Macintosh in my lab and am impressed with
its GUI. But, I have been hearing good things about OS/2. I would like an
early copy so I can play with it on my present system and see what it is like. 
Also I would like to try my hand at programming in OS/2!

	So, if anyone has an early version of OS/2 hanging around that they 
would like to sell (and that will run on a 286), please contact me at 
G5000005@nickel.laurentian.ca.

	Oh yeah, I have a 12 MHz '286 w/287XL coprocessor, 40 MB HD and
 4 MB of RAM (if this makes any difference).

Norm
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jws@iastate.edu (James William Shoemaker)
Subject: Re: BETA test site
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:48:36 GMT

	
	To become a beta site simply call 1-800-IBM-3040 (or is it 4030).
and answer a few questions.  Your beta will arrive 2-3 days later.

	At least that's the way it worked for me.


				JWS
From: azzarito@cse.fau.edu (Doug Azzarito)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: CD-ROM drive won't run under os/2?
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:12:48 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA

In article <DRL7RB1w165w@gnct.com> garyng@gnct.com (garyng) writes:
>azzarito@cse.fau.edu (Doug Azzarito) writes:
>
>> Create a DOS BOOT diskette, put MSCDEX.EXE on it.  Boot this disk, and make
>> sure MSCDEX works. (You'll probably need SETVER, but I'm sure you know how to
>> set this up).  Keep the setup simple (i.e., don't use HIMEM, EMM386, etc).
>> 
>> Once you have a working boot disk, put "DEVICE=FSFILTER.SYS" as the first lin
>> of the CONFIG.SYS on that disk.  Copy FSFILTER.SYS from your \OS2\MDOS
>> directory onto the floppy.  Then, with OS/2 running, select "DOS FROM DRIVE
>> A:" in your COMMAND PROMPTS folder.  You should be able to run MSCDEX from
>> this session.  If you want to create a bootable object that doesn't require
>> the floppy, type HELP VMDISK from an OS/2 window and follow the instructions.
>
>If you have a bootable DOS partition on the hard disk, and wish to take the 
>risk, you can simply modify the config.sys and autoexec.bat of that partition
>and ask OS2 to boot from there.
>

NO, NOT IN THIS CASE!  The problem is MSCDEX requires SETVER.  SETVER, when
run in a VMB, is only active if the file is EXEC'ed from an UNMAPPED drive. 
FSFILTER.SYS does the EXEC for any .EXE file on a mapped drive, but it lets
DOS do the EXEC if the drive isn't mapped.  Floppies and VMB images are
normally unmapped.

This limitation is based on SETVER's requirement to see the EXEC.  Of course,
if you're brave, you can leave MSCDEX on any FAT drive, and unmap it during
the EXEC (this does NOT work for HPFS drives).  Ex:

FSACCESS !C
C:MSCDEX
FSACCESS C

That would load MSCDEX, and activate SETVER for it.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: reimert@mamacass.etdesg.trw.com (Scott P. Reimert)
Subject: Re: PAS-16 and Os/2 Beta HELP!
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 22:08:13 GMT

In article <19920930.104527.316@almaden.ibm.com> archer@vnet.ibm.com (Gary Archer) writes:
>In <29SEP199220215312@scsuc.ctstateu.edu> MAKOFSKY,STEVEN writes:
>>Im having a really bad time getting my PAS-16 working with the Os/2 beta in
>>both Win3.1 and Dos. ANyone who has gotten their PAS-16 to work, please let
>>me know how to set it up. It keeps skipping like there is an interupt conflict
>>but, I know there isnt. HELP!
>>
>Try setting the interrupt during file I/O setting to yes.
>
>Reply-To: archer@vnet.ibm.com
>

I tried this -- to no avail <heavy sigh and dissappointment>. If I can just
get my PAS-16 to work in Win-OS/2 and OS/2, I'll be happy. If I can get that
AND NOvaStor's 32-bit SCSI backup software, I'll DUMP DOS/Win.

		Scott

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: ZIPs on Hobbes --- bug in Info ZIP?
From: ccdps@levels.unisa.edu.au
Date: 2 Oct 92 11:42:20 +0930
Organization: University of South Australia

In article <BvE1JL.FoM@epix.rrze.uni-erlangen.de>, clemens@faui8a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Clemens Beckstein) writes:
> Lowey@Sask.USask.CA (Kevin Lowey) writes:
>
>>From hank@ducvax.auburn.edu:
>>> In article <BvB46x.DzA@ucunix.san.uc.edu>, loatspa@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Phil Loats) writes:
>>>> tried to unzip them pkzip 1.1 can not uncompress them.  Is there
>>>   [deleted]
>>Does anyone know where I can get the authors of this new incompatible
>>.ZIP version?  I wish that if they were going to change the standard
>  [deleted]
>>--
>>- Kevin Lowey (Lowey@Sask.USask.CA)
>
> Or does "PKZIP compatible" mean "compatible to PKZIP 1.93"?
> Then what is
> InfoZIP V1.9 compatible to?

From the Info-Zip project's ZIP.DOC:

   zip version 1.9 is compatible with pkzip 1.93a.   Note  that
   pkunzip 1.10 cannot extract files produced by pkzip 1.93a or
   zip 1.9. You must use pkunzip 1.93a or unzip 5.0 to  extract
   them.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: christih@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (CHRISTIAAN HENRI K)
Subject: ATI Ultra-Again
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:40:09 GMT

I have an ATI Ultra with my OS/2 2.0. I use the 8514/A driver for both
PM and WINOS2. Why does the graphic quality (while viewing graphic files)
is better under WINOS2 ? Can I make the graphic quality better under PM,
or I should wait for the 32 bit GRE ?

Henri.
From: rider@geloser.login.qc.ca (Serge Ayotte)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: How's it like to run OS/2 in 4M?
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 22:49:37 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Gentleman Loser System, Montreal/Qc/Cdn

byu@white.toronto.edu (Benjamin Yu) writes:

> I am considering getting a laptop with only 4M/80M.  It is a 386sxl/25.
> (That's all I can afford now!) I would really like to run OS/2 on it but 
> would it run really slow to the point that it is unusable?
> 
> Any commemts are welcome!
> Benjamin Yu

From somone that HAD only 4 megs when I got OS/2, my opinion is a big
FORGET IT!

I have a 386DX/25Mhz (desktop) and just TRYING to get past the tutorial
was a PAIN. I know that it could be hard, but try to get some way to get
an extra 4 meg of ram...

Serge Ayotte

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson)
Subject: 386-40 with cache won't run with cache?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:19:58 GMT
Keywords: os2,cache,386

It's me again.  The friend that I had that is installing os/2 is pretty
pleased so far.  One of the remaining problems is that his setup won't run
very long when he has it set at 40 MHZ with the cache on.  If he reduces it
to 20 MHZ with the cache on it runs fine.  I  thought I'd heard something on
the net about other people having this problem???

Any thoughts.(it's a 386-40 with 64k cache and I don't know the board name,
              I can get it if it is important.)


I'd also like to say thanks to everyone on the net who take the time and
patience to answer questions for everyone under the sun.

Later,

Todd
tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu
From: Gary.Woodman@anu.edu.au (Gary Woodman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: New files on software.watson.ibm.com & ibm suggestions
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 03:12:05 GMT
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: gurrung.anu.edu.au

In article <1992Sep27.000803.25938@actrix.gen.nz> Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:

>USE "ls -altr" to list the files in date order. All the new files are at the
>end of the list.

Steve is obviously not a Unix user... "ls -alt" (or "ls -lt" for that 
matter) will list the files in date order, with the new files at the start 
of the list. Happy hunting!

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From: Pete.Norloff@f347.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Pete Norloff)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Where to purchase OS/2 ?
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 12:56:57 -0500

 SOB>     Can somebody tell me where I can purchase OS/2 or direct me
 SOB>   to a phone number that I can call ?

Call just about any mail order house -- PC Connection, MicroWarehouse, you name
it.  Most of the better places carry OS/2 now.

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: dlc@ddsdx2.jhuapl.edu (Dave Collard x7468)
Subject: Re: WP5.1 for windows/printer from win-os2
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 12:58:09 GMT

In <1992Sep30.212732.4355@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> dperry@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Dave Perry) writes:

>Sorry if these are FAQ's, but:
>I installed wordperfect for windows yesterday, and the thesarus, filemgr,
>and speller seem to work fine, but when I try and run the real thing, it
>crashes with an internal error in win-os2.  Is this a know compatiblity
>problem with an easy fix?  My other question is that win-os2 doesn't think
>it has a printer, and I know of no easy way to install one (other than 
>getting my windows disks out :(  Any help would be appreciated!

What is your setup and what was the error?
I had the same problem -- WPW could not find a file called
DDEML.DLL (or similar name).  Now, I have DOS/Win 3.1 on C: (FAT) and
was installing WPW to E: (HPFS).  I poked all around the OS/2 directories
and there is no file by this name.  So I go over and look on C: and find
it in the Windows/system directory (I think).  Hmm, I'll copy it to 
the WINOS2 directory -- Try WPW again and everything works!!!!

Why does this happen?  I don't know.  What is the real fix?? I don't know
and if you find out please tell me.  I am thinking that WPW sees Win 3.1
before it starts installing and sets stuff up so it can use 3.1 files??
Anyway, if this was your error, and you have Windows 3.1, try it.  It
worked for me.

I, too, had no problem with the other apps.

--Thor
dlc@ddsdx2.jhuapl.edu
collard@capsrv.jhuapl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jedwards@ms.uky.edu (Jonathan Edwards)
Subject: Re: 50DX vs 66DX2 and OS/2
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:24:48 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

djbpitt+@pitt.edu (David J Birnbaum) writes:

>I'm about to purchase a 486 on which to run OS/2 (EISA, 16MB, 256k
>cache) and I'd be grateful for advice on whether to to with a 50MHz chip
>(not the clock-doubled one) or the 66MHz DX2. Some considerations:

...

I assume you'll be loading the system quite heavily (otherwise the
differences will be imperceptible).  In that case, average disk access
time will probably prove to be more important than processor speed.
This summer I was compiling a bunch of C++ code on a 20MHz 386 with 16MB
and a not-particularly fast hard drive (23ms, I think).  It took half an
hour to completely build the module from scratch.  Moving to a slightly
faster processor (25MHz) with a much faster hard drive (11ms I think and
it may also have had a disk cache) cut that time in half.

So don't worry about 50MHz vs 66/33MHz.  Worry about getting a very fast
disk...
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: panos@db.toronto.edu (Panos Economopoulos)
Subject: Setting HPFS/FAT disk cache
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:18:30 GMT
X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.1.1 5/02/90)


I remember reading in one of the OS/2 help screens a section discussing,
quite extensively, the suggested settings for the HPFS and the FAT disk cache.
There was, also, a table with the suggested settings per amount of physical
memory present.  I, recently, tried to find it again but I couldn't. 
I am NOT referring to the IFS, HPFS, DISKCACHE entries of the Master Help
or the Command  Reference.  Nor to the Master Help entries under
performance/optimization.

Has anybody seen this? If so, where? Is it possible that it wasn't 
in the base OS/2 but in something like PS/Assistant? (I used to
have it on the system, but not any more).

Thanks

Panos Economopoulos --         panos@csri.toronto.edu      (ARPA/CSNet)
University of Toronto          {uunet, ...}!utcsri!panos   (UUCP)
                               panos@csri.utoronto	   (Bitnet)
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From: rshelley@riscy.simplot.com (Robert Shelley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 Security
Date: 2 Oct 92 12:54:14 GMT
Organization: J. R. Simplot Co., Boise Id.

I am using PCDACS from Pyramid Development Corp.  It does what you
want.

(203)257-4223...There is a coupon in the coupon book.

Robert                    rshelley@riscy.simplot.com

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: cnadler@vnet.ibm.com (Cliff Nadler)
Subject: WARNING!!!!!!!!!!  (was: Re: No more "grayed-out" names!)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 92 17:26:22 GMT
Distribution: w
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.14 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: cnadler@vnet.ibm.com (Cliff Nadler)
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

In  <1992Oct5.064353.23953@hellgate.utah.edu>  bangell@cs.utah.edu (bob angell) writes:
>
>Just a side-note....you can get rid of those "grayed-out" icon names on
>your desktop (WPS) by doing the following:
>
>	instead of using the "create a shadow" menu option, just take
>	MB2 and the Ctrl keys pressed together and drag the icon to
>	the WPS...and you will have a shadowed object....and you can
>	then change all the colors from the color palette using the
>	same MB2/Ctrl keys to highlight the color desired and then
>	dragging it to the desktop.
>
>The above will let you have ALL icon names have the same color.  Hope all
>this helps.

AAARRRGGGHHHHH!!!

Please DO NOT follow this advice with actual files on your disk! It's OK for
program objects (but you lose the ability to change the setting in any
shadow and change the settings in all of them), but if you copy FILE OBJECTS
from your disk to the Desktop, you are copying the file object and all the
data in the file. If you try to copy over too large a file, you will fill
up your disk space needlessly (by having too many copies of the same file
around). MB2+Control will COPY the copy, not create a shadow of the object.

If you really want to have the same color for shadows and original objects,
go the the Schemes Pallette in the OS/2 System->System Setup folder and use
it to change the shadow text to the same as the icon text. Then drag that
scheme to the desktop (pressing Alt as you are going) to make the changes to
all folders.

Please read the sections of the Master Help Index on Shadows. You will find
that they are extremely useful for creating multiple views of the same
object (as long as the object parameters nad settings remain the same),
without incurring the overhead of multiple copies of the files.

NOTE: As a general rule, NEVER copy or move an object from ANY drives folder
to the desktop. ALWAYS create a shadow of a drive object.

Cliff Nadler (cnadler@vnet.ibm.com)
IBM Federal Systems Company - TEAM OS/2

Disclaimer: This post represents the views of the poster, not IBM Corporation.
From: s861298@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Marc A. Boschma)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: GCC 2.2.2 for OS/2 support for Objective-C ?
Date: 28 Sep 92 00:19:35 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au

Before I go ftping the GCC for OS/2 port, I'd like to know if the port is
of the three(four?) different languages. If my memory serves me, they would
be C, C++, Objective-C and Protoize (not really a language, I know).

Thanks in advance,


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From: nnguyen@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Nik)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: a weird deleting problem
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:49:16 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


  Hello all!  After trial and error and many hours of aggravation, I think I
have finally tweaked my system correctly such that os/2 is pretty stable.
However, I ran across a problem trying to delete a program icon I made using
the template.  I tried dragging over to the shredder, but the "-" appears
and wouldn't let me delete it.  The program icon doesn't appear in the os/2
prompt either.  Another question is how does one (from the os/2 command 
prompt) change into the os/2 desktop directory?  And finally, some of the
games that came along with os/2 are acting up on me.  Chess used to be fine,
but now, strange graphics appear.  The puzzle game, after mixing up the picture
won't allow me to drag any pieces around.  Other than that, I am very happy
with os/2 and any assistance would greatly be appreciated.

Thanks,

Nick

nnguyen@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
From: chandoni@husc8.harvard.edu (John-Marc Chandonia, , , )
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Civilization under OS/2
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:33:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Oct5.153333.16102
Reply-To: chandoni@husc8.harvard.edu
Originator: chandoni@husc8.harvard.edu

dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell) writes:
> For me, I have to run it with the sound on. ?????.  I installed a volume
> switch on my computer, so I turn the volume off, but let civilization run
> with the speaker on and it runs fine.  If I run civilization with the sound
> off, it gets slow.  Strange but true.

Tell it the sound is on, but set HW_NOSOUND on so it can't make
any sounds.  That should theoretically work, although I haven't
tried it.

JMC
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From: d9mikael@dtek.chalmers.se (Mikael Wahlgren)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Switching AVIO programs Winodowed <-> Fullscreen
Date: 26 Sep 92 18:39:42 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

880506s@dragon.acadiau.ca (James Skinner) writes:

>	Is there any technical reason why AVIO OS/2 text programs could not
>be made to switch from Fullscreen to Windowed mode and vice versa just like
>DOS programs can?  Since they can run in either fullscreen mode or windowed
>mode I don't understand why they be switched.

Probably you don't actually mean AVIO OS/2 text programs above, but rather
Windowed OS/2 text mode (AVIO is programs that look like Presentation
Manager programs, but use VIO calls), while Windowed-programs are text-
programs that appear in a window.

The reason you can't switch between Windows and Full Screen mode, is 
that there are some capabilities available for Full Screen mode, that
is _NOT_ available in Windowed mode (keyboard monitors).  But sure, there
is a flag in the .EXE header that tells if a program is window-able, and
in that case, I think it would be a good idea to have a hot-key swithing
capability for those programs.

Mikael Wahlgren

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: xtifr@netcom.com (Chris Waters)
Subject: Re: List of DOS applications that work on OS2
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: comp.os.os2.misc
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 02:45:54 GMT

In <1992Oct2.225909.13045@muddcs.claremont.edu> jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu (John H. Kim) writes:

>xtifr@netcom.com (Chris Waters) writes:

>>Seems to me like it would make a *whole* lot more sense to have a list
>>of DOS apps that *don't* run under OS/2.  It'll be a *much* shorter list

>A list of DOS apps that don't work doesn't really help you that
>much.  The best it can do is tell you that the software you want
>to get doesn't work.  If the app you're interested in isn't on
>that list, there's no way for you to know if it actually does
>work, or if it just hasn't been tested yet.

The same thing is true if the software you are interested in isn't on
the the list of apps that DO work.  So this point is irrelevant.

There are tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of DOS apps.  Of those,
probably 99.99% work just fine under OS/2.  So, we can build a list with
tens of thousands of entries (and more coming every day), or we can
build a list with a few hundred entries.  You tell me which makes more
sense.

Or better yet, if someone really want to start a list of DOS apps that
work under OS/2, let me know.  I'm sure I can send 'em a list of a
couple of thousand just to get started.  :-)

>  The only way this
>list is going to be useful is if it is of DOS apps that DO work
>under OS/2.

The only way that THIS list would be useful is if it listed *every* DOS
app that works.  This is clearly an impossible task, as new DOS apps are
released on a daily basis.  Somewhere, someone has just uploaded a new
freeware or shareware program on a BBS somewhere in the world within the
last 24 hours.  That application works under OS/2.  Please feel free to
track down and list that application, and tomorrow's application, and...

:-)
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From: reisert@sttng.mlo.dec.com (Jim Reisert)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: The "Red Books"
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:01:41 GMT
Reply-To: reisert@sttng.mlo.dec.com (Jim Reisert)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation -- Maynard, MA


Don't buy them - FTP them!  They're on ftp-os2.nmsu.edu somewhere,
probably /pub/os2/2.0/info or somesuch thing like that.

- Jim

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