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From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Fantasy Games: Captive help.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 00:15:16 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Jon Henderson had some questions about Captive..
 
I dunno about the music.. my 520ST never gave me any, and I'd
assumed that the STe might be supported.. but I guess not..
 
The only thing I can think of is that the game was originally
developed on the Amiga, and maybe they left the music out of
the Atari port..  (Captive is available now for the PC too, but
I haven't seen it yet, so I don't know if they get any music
or not...)
 
As for finding the entrances on the planets, the best way is to
get a Radar Dev-Scape and leave it turned on as you explore..
the entrances will show up as a bunch of radar blips..
Other than that, using the "right hand rule" is one way to cover
as much area as possible.. just stay to the right as you move,
always turning right whenever you can.. (or left.. it doesn't
matter, as long as you're consistant).  You still have to check
out all the walls that might hide a door, but you should be able
to cover the surface area without missing anything..
 
Also, the "Mapper" Dev-Scape works on the planet surfaces too.
You can use it to see if you've missed anything.
 
BobR
From: wbdst+@pitt.edu (William B Dwinnell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Recommended Falcon monitor?
Date: 23 Jan 93 02:00:12 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


I believe that The Falcon030 will use a normal multisync, no? You can 
decent monitors at J&R Computer World (NC (NYC retailer- reputable
mail-oreder), starting in the low 300s. Shoot for a NEC, if you've got
the money. J&R is great, and you can call them at 800-221-8180.
From: ritz@ritz.mordor.com (Christopher Mauritz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: ADVOCACY: Re: Porky pig.
Date: 21 Jan 93 13:05:51 GMT
Organization: Ritz International, Inc. -- Import/Export Consultants
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Warwick Allison (warwick@cs.uq.oz.au) wrote:
OS/2> craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz (Craig Shore) writes:
OS/2> >Warwick Allison writes:
OS/2> 
OS/2> >>In my experience, cheap PC-clones are flaky.  You STILL get what you pay
OS/2> >>for, even with the low prices of The Clones.
OS/2> 
OS/2> >They're still guarenteed the same, 1 or 2 years (depending on the part
OS/2> > you're talking about), so if it busts, get it fixed or replaced
OS/2> > for free.
OS/2> 
OS/2> Unfortunately, computers aren't like cars, despite the silly analogies
OS/2> I've been hearing lately.  With cars, if everything works fine in the
OS/2> first two years, nothings likely to suddenly fail for another ten.
OS/2> 
OS/2> But with computers, a flakey component can work PERFECTLY for any amount
OS/2> of time then DING - suddenly a chip pops out of its socket (ok, easy
OS/2> to fix).  Or a dry joint finally develops just under the spacebar that
OS/2> you bash everytime you fire a smart-bomb.
OS/2> 
OS/2> So, while this doesn't have much to do with "advocacy", it's worth
OS/2> considering when comparing warranties.

I really wish you would lay off the complete misinformation.  Any
electrical engineering major (I was one for 3 years) will tell you
that over 90% of the time if an electronic component is bad it
will fail quickly.  That is why most reasonable manufacturers these
days ('cept Atari...but they're not reasonable) will burn in the
machine for 72 hours or so.

Regards,

Chris

--
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From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Distribution: tp
Organization:  One of these days for sure
X-News: HERMES MMAIL 1.10 Rev. Dec 15 1992
Subject: Re: All these wars...
	<1993Jan21.134856.9418@email.tuwien.ac.at>
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 14:39:14 -0800
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

In <1993Jan21.134856.9418@email.tuwien.ac.at> nino@vmars.tuwien.ac.at
	(Marinos Yannikos) writes:

>dmb@case.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett) writes:
>: 
>: See news.announce.newgroups.  RUN THE VOTE.  We will all vote yes.
>:

>I would, but:
>2. I don't think my account will last very long if I get a couple of
>   1000s votes! :-)
	
	Somehow, I doubt that thousands of votes would be a problem. Most
votes are big if they get 400. Obscure, low interest votes like this
would be hard pressed to pass the 100+~ plus rule.

>So, before I give it a try, is there anyone else willing to do this? 

	No, I have kill files.



-- 
		 John Henders
		 Vancouver,BC
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: nino@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Marinos Yannikos)
Subject: Re: PC Bigotry
Organization: TU Wien, Vienna, Austria
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:41:35 GMT

Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com writes:
[...]
: People who own just PCs have far better things to do with their
: time and computers than come here and try to evangalize Atari
: owners...
Really...

: They do things like Desktop Publishing, Word Processing, Graphics
: and Music, Business Applications, and even Games, on their PCs...

WOW! I've never done that on my crappy ST!

: If you read any of the PC newsgroups, you find people who are
: busily and happily using their computers, instead of fighting
: over the remains of a dead software company, or trying their
: best to defend the bizzare business practices of the company that
: manufactures their computer.  (Or discussing how great it will
: be.. someday.. when the new  _________ computer is finally
: released... someday... )

Well, we too would be happily using our computers if some people would
not keep on whining all the time about the policy of Atari Corp. and
how much better the PC market is. I'm certain that most c.s.a.st readers
are quite fed up with that discussion, and would appreciate it if it
ended as soon as possible. This is comp.sys.atari.st, not misc.talk.atari_corp,
or comp.sys.atari.st.advocacy. Why can't people get back to posting
informative things, not just feeding the never-ending thread?

: PC owners don't much care about the Atari world.. if they even
: know it exists...

Of course. Then, either
1) You're a PC owner, don't care much about the Atari world, but keep
   whining here in comp.sys.atari.st, or
2) You're NOT a PC owner, but still keep on whining instead of writing
   something useful here.

: It's Atari owners who exist in more than just the "Atari ghetto"
: who seem to rub the "Atari religious" the wrong way...

I don't know what you expected when you wrote more or less how stupid
we all were that we haven't thrown our Ataris away and gone to the PC
instead, but it seems quite natural that people who own a computer
don't want to be offended like that just because they see no reason to
buy a new computer. Sure, some people may just be fanatics, but I
personally see absolutely no reason to buy a PC if the ST does what
I need! I don't have any psychological problems with knowing that 
some other people use computers that are 10x faster than my Mega STe
and get more (pirated) new games per day than are released for the ST
in a year...

: "The Truth" is not welcome here...

Ermm... Do you really think this newsgroup was created to find out
"The Truth" (whatever you mean), and not eg. for discussing what's
going on in the ST world? (New program releases, bugs in programs,
programming ideas, help requests etc.)

: BobR

-MY
From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: PC Bigotrynex
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 00:24:37 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1993Jan20.115908.7362@gw.wmich.edu>

Bernard (x91mikowski@gw.wmich.edu) writes:
>Thanx for that blast of FRESH AIR John!  I'm getting quite tired of all the 
>too...  Why doesn't this group get back to the reason for which it was creat
>NEWS and SUPPORT! 

I've read a few similar posts recently...  my thoughts on the
lack of Atari content are that there just isn't any Atari
"News and Support" recently, so the vacuum is being filled
with Atari owners "bashing" everything else in sight...
 
Tell you what, Bernard...  why don't you start..?
 
What's new in the Atari world that we can discuss..?
 
BobR
From: cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Chris Herborth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: InterZONE Design
Subject: Re: Hunter - Is it any good?
Reply-To: cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:35:24 EST

In <C1EyAz.Iyp@cs.bham.ac.uk>, Jonathan P Alma writes:
> Can someone please post a 'review' (or just comment on) the game Hunter.
> I am especially interested in how complex the game is (do you need to think about
> strategies when playing or is it just a shoot'em up), and how long its appeal
> lasts.

Well, I've had it for several months now...  I love it!  Hunter is
_really_ cool, and tonnes of fun to play.  The 3-D vector graphics are
pretty realistic (well...) and fairly fast.  The controls are easy
enough to figure out and easy enough to use.  I usually play it on the
Mission setting, and it's quite challenging...

Highly recommended; some people will probably hate it though.  A friend
of mine, much into wargames, hated it when I showed it to him.

-- 
-------------------========================================-------------------
Chris Herborth
cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca
From: herby@danubix.ul.open.de (Herbert Dampel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: Node Ulm/Donau/IN
Subject: Re: UNITERM script file help needed.
Reply-To: herby@danubix.ul.open.de
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 11:57:24 MET

In <H.ea.rmtX0DdMErQ@yonder.equinox.gen.nz>, Craig Shore writes:
  >I need a script file to watch the modem, waiting for a RING , then send an
  > ata to the modem, wait for the CONNECT, then send a text message, or textfile
  > if possible,  drop carrier, and run itself again.

Try this (not tested):

:1
hangup()
echo('\r\nWaiting for Ring\r\n')
if(!get('RING',10)) echo('\r\nNo Ring\r\n') jump(1)
send('ATA\r')
if(!get('CONNECT',20) jump(1) 
send('Text whatever you like\r\n')
hangup()
jump(1)

Modem must be configured to send the needed strings !

cu l8ter mfG herby@danubix.ul.open.de
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: S112397@UMRVMA.umr.edu
Subject: Re:Zillions of Questions(old post)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 06:11:47 GMT
Organization: Univ of MO - Rolla

I would like to thank Steven Wells of answering my post,
now some advice for anybody out there who (like me) need to
be able to copy data from a small disk to a large disk.
In other words, those of you who ftp Atari STuff from various
sites (thanks atari.archives.umich.edu and your mirror
wuarchive.wustl.edu, a REALLY BIG THANKS, I MEAN REALLLLLLY
BIGGGGG THANKKKSSSSS TO YOUUUUUUU) but must use an IBM to do so
(and therefore must use a standard format disk instead of adding
sectors and tracks) use Fast Copy III (f_copy3.??? at the archives
above) Why? Cause you can do it real easy like.  Just use new conf
to reconfigure you IBM disk to extra tracks and sectors (now you can't
use it on the IBM again, but who cares!) RAH STeven Wells RAH Atari
Archive (both incarnations) RAH Fast Copy III RAH RAH RAH, YAAAAAAAAAA!!!

The preceding was brought to you by a much relieved Sam Groves
s112397@umrvma.umr.edu (if you really care :) :) :) :) :) )
From: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Steve Wells)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: ******  Thanks  ******
Date: 28 Jan 1993 20:45:00 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Distribution: world
Reply-To: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

> 	On the panel of my computer it says "Atari 1040ST" and then there is
> 	a tiny letter "f" right next to the 1040ST.  What does this mean?

F=Floppy.  It means the computer has an internal Floppy Drive, instead
of the external which the previous model had!
M=Modulator, means the machine has an RF-Modulator built in
E=enhanced.  (STE).  Extra paletter, Blitter, DMA, etc. etc.



  Contrary to popular belief, money IS everything!       |||        
  To cause a catastrophic disaster, you need a computer! ||| TARI   
  If several things can go wrong, the one that will     / | \       
  cause the most damage, happens first!          At least it goes!  
WELLS_S@KOSMOS.WCC.GOVT.NZ
From: mpark@stein.u.washington.edu (Michael Park)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Speedo GDOS questions...
Date: 22 Jan 1993 11:50:33 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu writes:

>SpeedoGDOS will be using BitStream fonts.  You will not need a font-editor,
>since there are well over 1,000 typefaces available commercially.  BitStream
>produces fonts used by a large number of Intel-clone software.  My father uses
>them quite a lot in label-making programs, DTP programs and the like.  (Dad has
>a 286-based system.)  Supposedly, there will be a cost for SpeedoGDOS to cover
>the royalties due to BitStream for their font technology and fonts families.

1. Are there any PD/Shareware BitStream fonts?

2. Is there a doc explaining the BitStream font format (like Adobe's
   black & white book?)


--m
From: davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: PD Spreadsheets
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:56:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: news2.C1FBB0.Gow
Reply-To: davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu
Organization: Health Computer Sciences, U of MN, Mpls

In article <XJquXB4w165w@status.gen.nz>, jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writes:
> There is a PD spreadsheet program called "Sheet".  It works well enough 
>for most applications. We used to use it at our old user group for 
>accounts and I think the chaps still use it for that purpose and also 
>billing for the PD libary.

Additional notes:  "Sheet" is a shareware spreadsheet with a BASIC-like
language interface added.  There is a version of this software
available on the atari.archive.umich.edu server in the
../Applications/Spreadsheets directory.

-- David Paschall-Zimbel
From: mlake@irscscm.UUCP (Marshall Lake)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Atari software for sale
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:11:04 GMT
Reply-To: mlake@irscscm.UUCP (Marshall Lake)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Internal Revenue Service, Washington, DC



ST Software for sale (all items come with original disks and docs):

The Games '92, Espana         10
Daily Double Horseracing       3
Vampire's Empire               3
C.O.L.R. Object Editor         3
Steve McQueen Westphaser       7
Knight Force (*NOT* STe)       3
Targhan                        7
California Games               7
Hard Drivin'                   7
Black Lamp                     5
Blockbuster                    7
Time Bandit                    7
Flood                          7
Blood Money                    7

or make an offer.

Please add $1 per order to help cover shipping.

Marshall Lake
POB 7332
Washington, DC  20044-7332
Tel 703-533-2132
Fax 703-538-4598
Internet  mlake%irscscm%media@uunet.uu.net
uucp  ...!uunet!{media,mimsy!bogart}!irscscm!mlake
CIS  73717,3174
GEnie  MLAKE

-- 
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mlake%irscscm%media@uunet.uu.net
...!uunet!{media,mimsy!bogart}!irscscm!mlake
mlake@irscscm.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: ebeling@theo.physik.uni-bremen.de (Walter Ebeling)
Subject: 1.44 MB drives on MSTE, just replace it !
Summary: exchange it
Keywords: Floppy drive
Organization: Fachbereich Physik, Universitt Bremen
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:47:02 GMT

High Guys,

just a quick remark. I just exchanged my old DD drive in an 1990 MSTE 
against a HD drive, I also changed DIP 7 to on. And guess what it worked at 
once !!!!

So before buying expensive hardware add-ons, check out if your MSTE can 
handle a HD drive. The floppy controller, a WD 1772 02-02, gets a little 
warmer, but it works !

Bye,

Walter
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: FAST Tech. Results (please read)
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:36:46 GMT
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory

In article AA07311@photon.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu, Who... Me? <dhbutler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> () writes:
>Well, I put out a query about Jim Allen, AKA FAST Techonolgies, concerning
>problems with product delivery.
>
>If anyone knows how to mail to Jim Allen at his GEnie account I would be most 
>appreciative.
>
<stuff deleted>

David, you can only send mail to a GEnie subscriber IF that person has asked
for the extra-cost Internet link.  Of course, not every GEnie user wants or
needs this additional service.  In addition, you must already know the
person's GEnie mail address.  For example:

   j.allen27@genie.geis.com           Jim Allen, Fast Technologies
   potechin@genie.geis.com            Nathan Potechin, ISD
   d.a.brumleve@genie.geis.com        Dorothy Brumleve, president, IAAD
   fair-dinkum@genie.geis.com         -me!-

I don't recall if the others use the Internet link but I do.

If your mail bounces, you'll know the person hasn't signed up for Internet.
If you  wish, you may mail your complaint letters to me at GEnie and I'll
forward them on to Jim Allen.  That will be the extent of my involvement, 
however, OK?  I wish you luck in resolving your problems and only ask that
if you feel you are fairly treated that you post that result here as well.
---

___________________________ John "HUTCH" Hutchinson _________________________
_________________ Fair Dinkum Technologies     Member - IAAD  _______________
________________ "No worries, mate... it's from Fair Dinkum!" _______________
____________ email: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov   GEnie: FAIR-DINKUM _____________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Subject: Re: Removeable media
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:01:19 GMT

In article 5218@wet.UUCP, ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen) writes:
>
>I read yesterday in a local computer mag that Syquest has released a drive 
>that reads and writes both 88meg and 44meg cartridges.  As I recall, the model
>number is the same as the 88meg drive with a 'C' appended to it.

Hey, that _is_ good news, Ed.  I wonder if there will be a price penalty
associate with these new 'C' units?  Thanks for the update as I think the
Syquest is one of the best deals going for expandable storage.
---

___________________________ John "HUTCH" Hutchinson _________________________
_________________ Fair Dinkum Technologies     Member - IAAD  _______________
________________ "No worries, mate... it's from Fair Dinkum!" _______________
____________ email: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov   GEnie: FAIR-DINKUM _____________
From: abaddon@uk.ac.liverpool.scm.suprenum (Kevin o donovan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Bl*!#y Lharc
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:43:06 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Centre for Mathematical Software Research, Univ. Liverpool, UK

I thought I'd take a look at the Gemfast libraries the other day, so I
downloaded them from a.a. I wanted the sources since I'm using Lattice C,
which is not supported in binary form, so I downloaded the sources in the
form of several .lzh archives. I then tried to unarc them to my hard disk.
After about 30 minutes of waiting hoping in vain that lharc would stop
writing to the disk, I resigned myself to having to reboot the machine,
screwing up that partition of my hard disk in the process (rebooting when a
file is being written to and the FATs/directory haven't yet been updated).
Lharc had gotten seriously confused by the files, and tried to write something
to an infinitely large file. I've got 3 problems with this, all of which
reinforce the arguments people have made against lharc in the past:

1) Why does lharc not recognise that an archive is in a format it no longer
  supports/doesn't support yet (in my case the former, I suspect)

2) Why does Lharc not respond to an abort signal such as Ctrl-C, and stop
  what its doing cleanly (just doing a listing of the archive contents had
  the above effect as well, and even the low level, hacky, interrupt anything
  feature of my shell wouldn't stop it)

3) Why doesn't Lharc recognise the disk full condition in the above example
  and stop then. At least then the disk wouldn't be corrupted?

FWIW, I tried using lharc versions 2.??c, d, i and l (2.?? - I can't remember
the minor version number, is it 2.01?)

Kev
From: tbrown@cis.ohio-state.edu (ted croft brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: PC VS ST
Date: 24 Jan 1993 13:35:17 -0500
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: anaconda.cis.ohio-state.edu

In article <H.ea.bHSHEmfuoiE@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca> cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca writes:
>In <11790@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au>, Warwick Allison writes:

>> Another great "real-time streams of data" is the analog phone-line
>> audio.  By emulating a modem, the DSP can implement any of the
>> current modem standards - all in software, with just a simple
>> device to actually make the external coinnection to the phone line.
>


I believe that some high end modems already do that.  From what I understand
the high end Zyzel (?) modem has two cheap DSPs, a 68000 and a ROM.  A modem
upgrade usually consists on buying a new $35 ROM.  Of course the modem is
expensive to begin with....of course it's also really cool..fax modem,
alternate ring detection, caller ID, supposedly can digitize incoming voice 
messages...wish I could afford one.

I have heard that there is doubt that the 56001 could do a 9600 baud modem
and do error correction and detection at the same time.  Anyone know for
sure?  I've heard plenty of people talk about implementing a modem on the
56001 (when NeXT debuted the slabs, when Cork was talking about releasing
an Apple CI clone w/DSP, now,  and at various other times in between....)
but have never heard of someone actually *doing* it.  Does anyone know
(with some degree expertise) just how good a modem the 56001 could make?
If it isn't at least 9600b with V.32,V.42 then by the time you bought the
program and bought the hardware to hook up the phone, you would probably 
be getting into the price range of a real modem.

-- 
Ted Brown		tbrown@cis.ohio-state.edu
			tbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
From: avgroeni@cs.ruu.nl (Annius Groenink)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Julian Reschke involved with MultiTOS d
Date: 27 Jan 93 12:37:50 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science

In <1993Jan26.010117.11960@cs.sfu.ca> gfarrell@cs.sfu.ca (Gordon James Farrell) writes:

>In article <memo.883178@cix.compulink.co.uk> apelled@cix.compulink.co.uk writes:
>>
>[...]
>>   ...  There are a lot of English speaking countries; Britain
>>and the States. i would think that there would be sufficient demand to make
>>it worth somebodies while.
>
>And what of Canada? (You know, that big, pink blob just north of the U.S.).
>Sheesh, we're used to being forgotten by Americans, but the British, too?


No, it's just that the English still don't accept Canada as a nation.

-- 
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