HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: glasses and helmets
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: 13 Sep 1992 05:49:24 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62003.student.cwru.edu

In article <20276@drutx.ATT.COM>, pms@druhi.ATT.COM (Paul M. Smith) wrote:
> 
> 
> I just leave the glasses at home, wear a very dark faceshield, and
> ride by feel.  An oft-overlooked benefit of a loud pipe is that it
> serves as a crude, but somewhat effective sonar.

Luke, let go Luke.  Let the force flow...

| Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834     | DoD #207  AMA
#573534|
| Case Western Reserve U. Computer E. and Sci. dept.| KotNML  /  KotB     
|
| "If I was worried about who saw me, I'd never get | '81 CB750C          
|
| nekkid at all." -Ed Green, DoD #0111              | '88 Bianchi Limited 
|
From: wrs@wslack.UUCP (Bill Slack)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: '85 Hesketh Vampire for sale
Distribution: world
Date: 10 Sep 92 09:58:58 EDT
Organization: W. R. Slack


Paul Thompson sez:
>and who could ever forget the Grycner Baron Von Grutzner
>or the Hodak Toad?!
        ^^^^^^^^^^

Yeah, Hodaka had all the good names. Their basic bike was called the Wombat.
Norton put camouflage paint on its roadster and called it the Combat
Commander. Hodaka then camouflaged the Wombat and called it, what else, the
Combat Wombat, probably the most outrageous bike name ever. Their little
dirt bike was the Dirt Squirt and their 250cc street bike was the Road Toad.

Where are all the great bike names now?  ;^}

Bill

__
wrs@gozer.mv.com (Bill Slack)  DoD #430
But her tears were shed in vain and her every word was lost
In the rumble of his engine and the smoke from his exhaust! Oo..o&o
From: leighann@sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Carpool lanes in CA (Was: Re: Lane Splitting)
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:11:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <1515@seqp4.sequoia.com> cantrell@seqp4.sequoia.com (Paul Cantrell) writes:
>
>Are California motorcyclists allowed to use the carpool lanes?
>

Around my area, yes.  Can't speak for other areas, as I haven't been
there, but all the carpool lanes around here (SF Bay Area) say
"Motorcycles OK"

	- Leigh Ann


Leigh Ann Hussey  leighann@sybase.com  DoD#5913  AMA#624549  AWRRA#23 (skidoo!)
'74 Honda CB360 "Fyrdraka"   '81 Yamaha Maxim650 "Elhaz"
"And they ride, and they ride/ And the White Hounds run beside/ And they'll
seize the night and shake it by the throat."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: La Honda --> Alice's Run
From: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)
Date: 9 Sep 92 00:58:42 GMT
Reply-To: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)
Distribution: ba
Keywords: Alice's, La Honda, Hwy. 84

rwert@well.sf.ca.us (Robert M. Wert jr. (Bob Wert)) writes:

>Has *anyone* ever made the run from La Honda up to Alice's on Hwy 84
>without having to slow down for a cager?  [...]
>What's the secret?

I suppose you want something more helpful than "start riding 10 years
ago".  I used to regularly zip up there with no problems, during
weekdays at least.  In the last few years, I've made it up once or
twice (out of perhaps 25-50 trips) without encountering a rolling
roadblock.  You see, the problem is that you are setting goals that
are just too big for this overcrowded area.

You can still make it *down* several of the hills towards the beach
(an even longer ride) and have one or two cars you can whip around in
your way.  In summer, I occasionally go up 84, then down the other
side to Hwy 1, putz down into Santa Cruz, then up 17 to Summit to home
(I have the horrible misfortune of being motorcyclist who lives in the
Santa Cruz mountains.  All at once now: Awwww).  I've had rides on
more than one weeknight where the trip *down* to the beach had no
other cars, and the trip down hwy 1 was *faster* than I wanted to go
(there was a group of us doing 85+ (that's feet per hour, for any
officers out there :-) all the way down to Santa Cruz, with only a few
cars that were quickly passed in the turnouts).

So, just pick a less travelled route.  Especially after work, you can
still get some great rides in.


--
Ken Wallich
wallich@ncd.com  
ken@wallich.com
From: rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu (Eric Rescorla)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Least Favorite Road Sign
Date: 9 Sep 92 00:42:13 GMT
Organization: Rescorla for himself.

In article <1992Sep8.203024.25657@varian.com> bob@csbvax.uucp (Bob Palin) writes:
>In article <1992Sep7.075255.2723@news.arc.nasa.gov> howland@noc.arc.nasa.gov (Curtis Howland) writes:
>I think you had been riding too long if you saw such a sign.  Firstly Hwy 50
>doesn't go through Reno, secondly it is not an Interstate and thirdly
>there are plenty of services on Hwy 50.  Interstate 80 does go through
>Reno but I've never seen this sign and I'm certain that there are 
>much more frequent services than that. 187 miles would prevent the 
>majority of motorcycles using I80 and I know that many do...
>
I've done Highway 50 in the past few months. It has what is allegedly
a 112 mile or so stretch w/o gas, but there is actually this unmarked
gas station about half way through. The nasty part isn't Nevada, though,
it's Utah.

The Delta-Ely run to be specific.
-Ekr

-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eric Rescorla, DoD#431 (Nighthawk S)              rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu
Former chemist now CM400 mechanic                 ekr@eitech.com(preferred)
                       I will hack Unix for food.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid)
Subject: Re: >wheelies
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:53:00 GMT

In article <18q7u1INN58k@sixgun.East.Sun.COM>, egreen@east.sun.com writes...
>In article 29044@news2.cis.umn.edu, 
>	mark@lenti.med.umn.edu (Mark Olson (CDC)) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep10.165651.19456@varian.com>
>>	 bob@csbvax.uucp (Bob Palin) writes:
> 
>>>There are a few roads in England which are marked 1 in 3 which means they
>>>go up 1 foot for every 3 feet horizontally, 30 degrees I believe  8-)
> 
>>   1 in 1 is a 45 degree angle, so 1 in 3 is 33% of 45 degrees, or 15
>>degrees.  
> 
>Geeze, guys!
> 
>tan A = opposite / adjacent
>arctan (1/3) ~= 18.44 degrees
> 
	Yeah, I already tapped it out on my calculator-window & was gonna hit
"f" when I thought, "Geeze, no!  Ed Green's probably already given the right
answer.  I _am_ >150 messages behind."  Sure 'nuff, a few "Z"s later...   :-)

> 
Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.     			ivan@cvax.psi.ch
GSX600F, RG250WD.	SI=2.66     "You Porsche. Me pass!"	DoD #484
Spagthorpe: a mythical English village, home to a cohort of artisans capable
of producing, from ignoble starting materials, complex and wondeful mechanisms
of ultimately questionable utility [SPAG(YRIC) alchemy + THORP(E) village].
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: wtr@mitre.org (Bill Ralston)
Subject: Re: Advice wanted on defending yourself in court
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 23:31:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.214959.959@infonode.ingr.com> 
jackr@thorodin.dazixco.ingr.com (Jack Reed) asks for advice on defending 
against a speeding ticket

Know your law.  I showed up in traffic court with a copy of the actual 
motor vehicle code - the judge had never seen it before!  Most traffic 
court judges aren't too smart.  In my case I read him the actual law and 
offered my interpretation.  He got hopelessly lost and confused and let me 
off.  This was concerning inspection stickers on motorcyles in 
Massachusetts;  speeding is usually a little more cut and dry...

Bill
---------------
wtr@mitre.org
** Opinions are mine only, and not my employer's **
From: lm8637@tnessd.sbc.com (Lou Montgomery (214+464-1049))
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: NO key fobs
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:29:02 GMT
Organization: Southwestern Bell

In article <1553@adpplz.UUCP> martin@adpgate.UUCP (Martin Golding) writes:
>> XP2729@LSUVM.BITNET (Terry Baldridge) writes:
>
>> > Arnie how about a DoD key fob now?  It would
>> > nice to have one like BMW MOA key fobs.
                               ^^^

        MOA....Minute of Angle?  One inch at 100 yards?  Not bad
      for a BMW.
                                          ,
                                        -(D-)=
                                          '

>
>     Martin Golding      KotP        |  I have six motorcycles, 
>DoD #236  BMWMOA #55952  WMTC #0002  |   the brands are important to ME.
>[motcsd!]mcspdx!adpgate!martin       |    :-Pthpthpthpthpth!


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: edw@boi.hp.com (Edward Walsh)
Subject: Re: glasses and helmets
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 00:34:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson) writes:
: How about a corrective lens face shield?  How's that for an optics
: nightmare. :-)
: 
: > cliff
Actually, it shouldn't be too hard. Just make a transmission hologram of a
pair of eyeglass lenses, and fit that to your face shield (patent pending).
------------------------------Edward Walsh----Hewlett-Packard Company-------
                              edw@boi.hp.com  Disk Memory Division, MS213
                              (208)323-2174   P.O. Box 39  Boise,Idaho 83707
                              FJ1200'89,XZ550RJ(Vision)'82,DoD#98
From: ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: MSF RCC and MC brakes.
Date: 6 Sep 92 07:22:00 GMT
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1884u1INNotp@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, 
	jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker) writes...
> 
> 
>  Then Me comes up with another difference,
>	"Cars corner better than bikes.  At higher g's that is"
>	"No way.  You're wrong.  Hell, in Europe bikes with sidecars are
>		going around F1 tracks faster than F1 cars.

>The only thing he said that I can't dispute is the tthing about the sidecars
>in Europe.  It may be true considering a sidecar rig is nearly a car.
> 
>ANyone got any good comparisons, numbers, references for me so I can show
>these guys the error of their ways?
> 

	Maybe at some distant point in the past (30 years ago :-), but I'm
pretty sure F1 lap times are quicker than 500 cc GP1 lap times.  And I recall
a year or two ago Biland/Waltisperg lapped one track (Jerez?) faster than
the 500s in practice.  Biland was stoked because it was the first time he'd
done it.  I haven't seen him repeat the feat.  Thus, I find it very hard to
believe that the sidecars are faster than F1 cars.  Unfortunately, I don't
collect European motorsports mags so I can't check.

>Anyone know where a mechanical engineer can get a job?
	Sorry, no.  Anyone know where an atomic physicist/physical chemist/
computer whiz can get a job in a _civilised_ country? :-)/2

Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.     			ivan@cvax.psi.ch
GSX600F, RG250WD.	SI=2.66     "You Porsche. Me pass!"	DoD #484
"noematical -- a. Obs. rare;  Originating, or existing, in thought, or in the
 mind alone."	-- Compact Oxford Dictionary
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: robert@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Robert Kennedy)
Subject: Re: La Honda --> Alice's Run
Keywords: Alice's, La Honda, Hwy. 84
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: ba
Date:  8 Sep 92 19:26:05 GMT

rwert@well.sf.ca.us (Robert M. Wert jr. (Bob Wert)) writes:
>Has *anyone* ever made the run from La Honda up to Alice's on Hwy 84
>without having to slow down for a cager?

Yeah, I did it once. I went on a weekday about a week ago, in the
evening. We arrived at Alice's just as it was getting dark. I did have
a little run-in with a pickup coming around a corner in the other
direction almost all the way in my lane, but no cages at all going the
same direction as we were. It was *fun*! I don't expect too many
repeats of that experience, though, since that road is pretty becaged.

	-- Robert
From: kens@hplsla.hp.com (Ken Snyder)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:19:43 GMT
Subject: Re: Least Favorite Road Sign
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles


   "[Loose] Gravel on road", "Fresh oil on road", "Construction ahead",
"Pavement ends", etc.  These aren't at all my least favorite signs
because they convey useful information to me.  You'd rather they didn't
put up warning signs?

   My least favorite signs, in order of least favoriteness? are:

   65, 55, 45, 35, 25.  The reason is that they normally convey NO
information other than "if you exceed these speeds it may cost you
money."

   And, of course, my (and other's) favorite sign is near Lolo pass,
"Curvy road next 77 miles."

Ken `2 wheels good' Snyder
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: equal opportunity cheesecake
Keywords: phone # for corbin
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:44:29 GMT

In article <lb1jfoINNaf5@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> elef@smarmy.Corp.Sun.COM writes:
>In article 29517@research.nj.nec.com, behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna) writes:
>>	Well, as long as it has been brought up, does anyone have a phone
>>number to reach Corbin?  Baby needs a new seat so my ride doesn't get a sore
>>butt when she's on the bike (er, did I get that backwards?  :-)
>
>the number for corbin is 800 538-7035.
>
>good luck - i tried to get them to send me a catalog TWICE in the last
>six months and they never bothered to send me ANYTHING.  i'm NOT
>impressed.
>
>elef
>
>ps.  i've never seen any of the women i know who REALLY ride motorcycles
>wear a bikini with stiletto heels.  sure, i've seen some of them ride NUDE,
>but a bikini with heels?  that would be silly....

 OK. Here's the rub.
How'd it feel.
Somebody at corbin said they where out of catalog's. So I enguired about
the gunfighter/gunslinger/gabdummit seat. They xerox'd that page and
sent it to me. Bought the seat. Looks great. It fit after much tugging
and swearing. Somebody welded a nut off center on a mounting bracket.
It's still worth it.
Seem to sit a lot higher. It's the extra padding. Little cracks
in the road don't seem so big.
Since nobody answered when I asked about a passenger(which corbin
doesn't recommend on that seat) I'll answer myself.
 
Well Jim, you stud, I just happen to have that same seat and you
can fit a little filly on there just fine. A Lahma in a bikini with stiletto
heels might be pushing it. Might being the operative word.
 
================================================================================
 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
================================================================================
From: gaijin@ale.Japan.Sun.COM (John Little - Nihon Sun Repair Depot)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Chain Problem Update (Flagellation Special - Buy Now!!)
Date: 9 Sep 92 01:27:18 GMT
Organization: Nihon Sun Microsystems - Atsugi Technical Centre - JAPAN.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ale.japan.sun.com
Summary: -CHANGE THEM NOW!-                    ...and I know, 'coz I was there!
Keywords: test, please, ignore

In article <1992Sep9.031557.9028@serval.net.wsu.edu> bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu \
(William E. Johns;S23015) writes:
% In article <1992Sep5.044124.26338@ncsu.edu> jrwaters@eos.ncsu.edu \
% (JACK ROGERS WATERS) writes:
% >
% >After putting the chain back on (just a little looser than
% >I had it before), the bike sounds much better.
% 
% This is a joke, yes???
% 
% Would someone with experience, a racer perhaps, tell what can happen 
% if a chain lets loose at speed.
% 

   Mmmm....  JRW can look forward  to having the chain wrap itself  around
   the nearest available object  (his leg, passenger's leg,  swinging-arm,
   shock, etc, etc) in very much the same way as a whip will wrap around a
   pole.  The main difference is that there tends to be a tad more  weight
   associated with the chain.

   Depending on which sprocket (if either) the chain is still attached to,
   the drive from either the  engine or the rear  wheel will then rip  his
   leg off (or do  some entertaining things to  some of those metal  parts
   which he always thought were un-bendable).

   In all probability he'll end up  with a rear wheel that's locked  solid
   (this can be a -very- interesting experience, even at speeds below  the
   DOD minimum!).

   About ten or  twelve years  back I  had a  chain snap  at about  70mph,
   two-up with luggage on a Kawasaki 750.  I was lucky.  It wrapped itself
   around one of the shocks and locked the back-wheel solid.  It was a hot
   day and we made a very pretty,  -long- black mark on the soft  macadam,
   but we didn't  go down  (I don't  know -what-  God drives,  but it's  a
   shaftie and he has no trouble with countersteering!).

   Although the chain was fairly new (< 1000 miles) it was a cheap-n-nasty
   aftermarket from Sid Skip's Motorsickle  Emporium.  So, the lesson  for
   today is...   don't just replace  the chain and  sprockets - make  sure
   that you replace  them with -good-  quality items (and  stay well  away
   from Sid Skip's place!).

   [This interlude was brought to you  by KAC-UP, the society to Keep  the
   Article Count UP while those 'merkins have yet another bloody holiday]

-- 
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  | John Little  - gaijin@Japan.Sun.COM  - Sun Microsystems. Atsugi, Japan | 
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna)
Subject: Re: FAQ Me?! FAQ YOU! (Helmet Laws)
Organization: NEC Systems Laboratory, Inc.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 21:27:03 GMT

In article <92252.121507REE700A@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> <REE700A@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
>   Seems that one of the most commonly asked questions is RE helmet laws...
>   Is there a FAQ posting about this?  Could someone waste a little more
>bandwidth and point it out to the group?  If there isn't one, lets compile a
>list of Helmet laws by state and autopost it... Give it a life of it's own.
>You know, like Harley Oil & my freshman year roommate's laundry!

	I happen to have such a list at my fingertips.  I'll type it in and
post it when the boss leaves. :-).  As KotHLF, it is my doodee^H^H^H^H^Huty.

Later,
-- 
Chris BeHanna	DoD# 114  KotHLF    1983 H-D FXWG Wide Glide (She lives!)
behanna@syl.nj.nec.com	            (I need another bike for this space!)

Disclaimer:  Now why would NEC agree with any of this anyway?
From: na4@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Harley Sprint
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:18:32 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

Hi there.  Does anyone know how I can get my hands on an electrics map
for a '82 Harley Sprint?  any and all info is greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance

Nadine

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: Arnie Skurow <arnie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: DoD KEY FOB: ORDERING INFORMATION
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 10:56:22 GMT

DoD Key Fobs will be made from black leather with a ~1 inch DoD
logo photographically reproduced and epoxied to a gold colored
trim ring.  At the end of the fob is a 1" key ring.

Price will be $8 each plus SASE for U.S. delivery.

Canadians send a self addressed envelope and an extra .50 for
postage.  US$8.50 total.

Europeans and other Internationals, send US$2 extra for air-mail
postage and handling.

Send orders to:

Arnie Skurow
5760 Crawford Drive
Columbus, OH  43229 USA

As always, the proceeds from the sale of these fobs will be donated
to the American Motorcycle Heritage Museum in Westerville, Ohio.

BTW, I priced the Zippo fobs and the would have been too expensive to
sell a quantity of, and they are not flexible like leather.

Arnie
From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: stupid people
Date: 11 Sep 92 06:35:20 GMT
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

Thursday September 10 1992 22:06, Randy Davis wrote to All:

 RD> In article <1992Sep9.153110.13968@rtsg.mot.com> declrckd@rtsg.mot.com
 RD> (Dan J. Declerck) writes: |Hmmmm... you see more EX500's at the
 RD> racetrack than ZX-11's. She is pointless, |clueless and ignorant.

 RD>   I don't think this has anything to do with an EX500's drag racing
 RD> ability, since that *was* what the subject concerned (an EX500 stoplight
 RD> racing a T/A). Pointing out the relative presence of the two at a
 RD> racetrack has nothing to do with the drag racing ability of *either*.
 RD> Who's clueless?

Not to mention, Randy, that the writer you just flamed doesn't state why
there are more EX500's at the racetrack than ZX-11's. Lets name a few
reasons for him, so he can at least know a little: EX500's are: cheap,
easily obtainable, easy to obtain parts for, have at least one class
that they are perfect for, and no one cares if they get trashed, as race
bikes often do, because they are trivial to repair. On the other hand,
the ZX-11 is: expensive, hard to obtain, doesn't have much aftermarket
available for it (doesn't need much), not a good fit in any class except
where GSXR1100 and FZR1000 machines run - and it can't beat them on a track
so why bother, and I've yet to meet a ZX-11 owner who would want to turn
his/her ZX-11 into a race bike, since they are SO much fun on the street.

That said, I suspect after I finish the rebuild on ma ZX-11, the same racer
could take it around Laguna Seca faster than he could take an EX500. But then,
they aren't in the same class, so that doesn't prove anything.

John

--- GoldED 2.40.P0720+
--  
John Hamilton                  uucp: uts.amdahl.com!kennel!john
DoD #0327   ToT #11            internet: john@f8.n143.z1.fidonet.org
ZX-11 From Hell.               arpa: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
She said, "Its either me or that ZX-11!" Too bad, I'll miss her.
From: dsc3jfs@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Jim Small)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Least Favorite Road Sign
Date: 6 Sep 92 18:44:32 GMT
Organization: Naval Medical Research & Development Command

In article <6475@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ranck@vtserf.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:
>I would have to say that my least favorite sign is one that says 
>"Next Gas n Miles"  where 'n' is anything over 75.  I just don't
>have the range. sigh.

Replace the tank, Ranck!
-- 
I hate the 3B2
The 3B2 can bite me.
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:30860 rec.nude:4342
From: jevans@Apple.COM (David Jevans)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.nude
Subject: Call for votes - rec.motorcycles.nude
Keywords: Full moons ride!
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:34:36 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

Following the success of the First Annual Nude Ride 'N Feed, on Sept 6, 1992,
I propose the formation of a new newsgroup, rec.motorcycles.nude!

This group will be devoted to the discussion of all things related to
buff biking!  Upcoming articles include:

	- Aerostich announces new motorcycle riding apparel: BirthdaySuit!
	- Full moons sighted over San Jose!
	- Pros and cons of "hanging off"
	- Single versus dual "headlights" at night?
	- Confessions from the L.A. underground:
		"Twice the speed limit sans leathers... on an FJ!"
	- Does the CA helmet law apply when riding nude?
	- J. Eric Townsend talks turkey about tankbras.
		(rec.motorcycles.nude.piercing)
	- Splinter newsgroup:  rec.motorcycles.nude.dirt!!!
		(talk about "dual purpose"!)
	- Do loud "pipes" save lives?  EvoWmn speaks out!
	- Does Shoei make a helmet in size XXXXS?  With a visor??
	- Why are motorcycle saddles made from vinyl?
	- FAQ - does HP make a high contrast scanner for underexposed photos?
		(UNDERexposed???)

All these questions, and more, will be answered if you vote YES to the
formation of rec.motorcycles.nude.  I know we can count on at least
11 (yes, eleven) AFFIRMITIVE votes!

;-)

-- 
David Jevans            "Ride Free, Ride Nude!"          (408) 862-3025
                           jevans@apple.com