HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sjm@cocamrd.mel.cocam.oz.au (John Machin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: The White Man's Burden of Proof - New words!!
Date: 30 Sep 92 09:34:54 GMT
Organization: Co-Cam Computer Group, Oz

In article <1992Sep25.135249.15521@athena.cs.uga.edu> fuller@athena.cs.uga.edu (James P. H. Fuller) writes:
|wojdylo@maths.uwa.oz.au (INFIDEL) oozes:
|
|
|> Ain't that sweet ?
|
|
|     Oh, I have a little demon, tra la la, that scans the netnoise, mmmmmm
|hmmmmm, and zaps articles based on *any* imbedded text, rum te tum tum, so
|much better than a kill file, not only do I never see 'em, *nobody* does.

Good. Then you won't see your own post, nor this response!!!

|And they don't get propagated.  Gets all crosspostings, including the ones
|in the junk spool.  Embedded text, let's see, how about uniwa!wojdylo and
|(INFIDEL) and madvax and maths.uwa.oz.au and University of Westrn Australia.
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
A bit sweeping, tarring all denizens of that domain with the same brush.

|(Westrn, forsooth.)  That should flush most of it.  As for the physical
|presence of the unlovely object, ah reckon Westrn Australia is just about
|far enough away.  As long as it stays there.

Incoming! Incoming! Recent infidel sightings on eastern seaboard of oz!!!
Destination unknown but could be heading us-wards.

On the other hand, given that yank technology & systems may have been used in
sightings, may not be infidel but merely the moon rising or a gaggle of geese.
|
|     Voila!  Wojdylo n'exist plus.  Actually, keeping the peons supressed
|is no trick at all...

And Macbeth thought he'd suppressed Banquo ...

|                                           -- jf


-- 
John Machin
Co-Cam Computer Group
18 Trenerry Crescent, Abbotsford, Victoria 3067, Australia
Phone: +61-3-286-3456  Fax: +61-3-417-7857  ACSNet: sjm@cocam.oz.au

If he was suspicious of adventuring heroes, it was because like that gentlest
of dons, Quijote, they were wont to destroy useful windmills in the name of
dragomachy.  --  John Barth, "Giles Goat-Boy, or, The Revised New Syllabus"
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From: mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin)
Subject: Re: Books in the time of love
Originator: mnemonic@eff.org
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:10:08 GMT

In article <Bvo20E.5o6@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> msmorris@watsci.uwaterloo.ca (Mike Morris) writes:

>And my other
>wives, Anna and Livia, were taking her side.
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Plural belles?



--Mike



-- 
Mike Godwin,    |"Liberty resides in the rights of that person
mnemonic@eff.org| whose views you find most odious."
(617) 864-0665  | 
EFF, Cambridge  |                           --John Stuart Mill
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From: jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy)
Subject: Re: She's baaaaack.....Camille Paglia
Reply-To: jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
	<25SEP92.21331152@vax.clarku.edu> <1992Sep30.014109.1224@fulcrum.oz.au>
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:58:40

It seems to me evasive to call an author conceited.  Avoids
mentioning anything in particular.

I have only got through two chapters of Sexual Personae so far.  There
is indeed a lot of flat assertion, and I put her assertions into 4
categories.

1. Assertions with no clear meaning.  say 40 percent, but I'm rather
intolerant about such things.

2. Assertions that are meaningful to me but with which I disagree.
20 percent.

3. Assertions that are meaningful but for which the evidence of
which I am aware is indadequate to decide.  20 percent.

4. Assertions I agree with.  20 percent.  A much higher score
than most of what I have read.

(By the way Cathy Young has a fine article on feminism in the
latest _Reason_.)

I hope the interest in Paglia lasts till I finish the books.
Then I'll give examples of the four categories and actual
arguments for my classification.
--
John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
*
He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.
From: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: The Talk Of The Town
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:35:25 GMT
Reply-To: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Organization: The Wistar Institute of Anatomy and Biology
In-reply-to: fuller@athena.cs.uga.edu (James P. H. Fuller)

In article <1992Oct3.163954.12905@athena.cs.uga.edu>, fuller@athena (James P. H. Fuller) writes:
>> Vulgarity?  I don't know what you're referring to.

>		  When I say vulgarity do people automatically think of
>raunchy sex?

No, just "vulgarity".  As in all-round crudeness.

>	       Not what I mean at all; I mean materialism -- or in the case
>of _The New Yorker_, arch-materialism.

If you mean materialism, then say so.
-- 
-Matthew P Wiener (weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu)
From: eaeg181@orion.oac.uci.edu (John Robinson Dooley)
Subject: Re: Request: worthwhile bios of JFK and RFK
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Keywords: Kennedy biography JFK RFK
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:05:10 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <BuzK7H.CLr@news.cso.uiuc.edu> wade@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (S.Wade) writes:
>
>  Can someone recommend worthwhile biographies of
>  John F. Kennedy and Robert F. Kennedy? 
>
>  I want to avoid the fawning bios that view them as
>  flawless heroes.  I also want to avoid the books
>  that are just scandal rags.  Are there any
>  books about them that stand out above the rest?
>

Well, this may fall close to the flawless hero category,
but I liked the "Times of Robert Kennedy" by Arthur Schlesinger.

John Dooley


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From: rsquires@cyclops.eece.unm.edu (Roger Squires)
Subject: Re: WWII Novels?
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 20:31:50 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <6809@transfer.stratus.com> bhahn@sw.stratus.com (Bill Hahn) writes:
>Has anyone mentioned Erich Maria Remarque's <<Zeit zu Leben, Zeit zu Sterben>>
>("Time to live, Time to die")?   About a German soldier on the Russian front
>during WWII.  ...
>

	And don't pass up his WWI novels!  _All Quiet on the Western Front_
	and _The Black Obelisk_ were both wonderful.  TBO has some
	great bittersweet humor as well.  Probably time for another thread.

> 
>Bill Hahn               bhahn@sw.stratus.com

Roger Squires
rsquires@cyclops.eece.unm.edu
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From: le01167@portal.lasc.lockheed.com (Ron Nadel)
Subject: Re: Literature students
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Lockheed Aeronautical Systems Co. - Rye Canyon
Distribution: world,local
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 17:54:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.154116.10558@galileo.physics.arizona.edu>, lnh@soliton.physics.arizona.edu (sometimes a Wombat) writes...

>Actually, I've just your everyday, ordinary, sleep deprived physics
>graduate student doing free-lance writing on the side. I'm sure 
>should the emsemble set of those be assembled, I would be very close to
>the expectation value.
> 
OHHHHH. So, you ARE sort of average, even if not very average.  Well, that's
okay.  All of us, on average, think we're above the average, and that makes
us average - or thereabouts.  But if you don't think you're not average, then
you're not like most of us, and that would mean that you are NOT average,
even though you don't think so.

Ron
From: barclay@RAIL9000.gatech.edu (Barclay Blanchard)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Atlanta rabfest
Date: 27 Sep 92 03:53:06 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute

I forgot about figuring out how we'd recognize each other.

I'll carry my copy of Lord Jim.  I'm 5'2" with reddish brown hair.  I'll
wear jeans and a black hat with a purple flower.


Oxford Books at Pharr Road...

-- 
Barclay Elizabeth Blanchard    barclay@rail9000@gatech.edu
"I've been laughed at by some of the funniest people."
--Lissie, Alice Walker's _The Temple of My Familiar_
From: mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: The Talk Of The Town
Date: 2 Oct 92 01:45:29 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Originator: mnemonic@eff.org

In article <2554@ceylon.gte.com> vks0@bunny.gte.com (Vijay Samalam) writes:
>
>A good friend of ours whom we have known 
>for a long time writes to us more in 
>sorrow than in anger :
>
<text deleted>

I have some problems with the new NEW YORKER--especially the gratuitous
change in its delightful body type. But this is the first issue I've
found readable in a months of Sundays.


--Mike




-- 
Mike Godwin,    |"The meeting of two personalities is like the contact 
mnemonic@eff.org| of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, 
(617) 864-0665  | both are transformed."
EFF, Cambridge  |                           --Carl Jung 
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From: rauchway@leland.Stanford.EDU (Eric Andrew Rauchway)
Subject: Re: Request: worthwhile bios of JFK and RFK
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 06:21:55 GMT

You may want to start with Robert Kennedy:  In His Own Words.  There is more
about what Bobby thought of Jack and what Bobby believed himself in there than
you will find anywhere else.
Of course there is no guarantee that these are unadorned interviews.  Perhaps
some cabal of evil people faked 'em.  But you can believe what you want.

Eric Rauchway                    /      My opinions are mine, and not those
rauchway@leland.stanford.edu     /      of the department or university.

Department of History                  Stanford University

*****Those who do not remember history are doomed to flunk my class.*****





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From: yarnot@csusac.csus.edu (Jan Yarnot)
Subject: Re: Books in the time of Love
Organization: Moi?
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 14:07:02 GMT

The trouble with me, Mark, is that when I'm busy falling in love I don't
read all that much.  I write: pages and pages of diary entries, and even
more when I'm mizzable (it's a sure sign that things are going well when my
diary turns into a booklist) and reams of excruciatingly awful poetry.  But
I would rather be staring into my beloved's eyes, or at the moon, or into
thin air, than reading.  Or so I remember it... we just celebrated our 27th
anniversary!

-- 
---Jan Yarnot, net.grandma.-- | A lifetime of smirking behind your hand
                              | is a lot better than a few seconds of
                              | triumph.
CSUS depends on my every word.              Kinsella, _Box Socials_
From: klein@frith.egr.msu.edu (Jeffrey Klein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Hepcat Shakespeare
Date: 1 Oct 92 19:40:12 GMT
Distribution: world, rec, usa
Organization: Michigan State University College of Stunt Piloting

In article <1af44uINNbce@smaug.West.Sun.COM> jimh@pongo.Eng.Sun.COM (jim hori) writes:
>In article <9209301640.AA23617@coventry.Corp.Sun.COM> Lisa.Levine@Corp.Sun.COM (Lisa Levine) writes:
>>(However, the idea of doing these plays in any other
>>contemporary dialect makes me cringe!)
>
>I always thought Lord Buckley's rewrite of Marc Antony's funeral
>oration was hilarious: "Hipsters, flipsters. finger snappin' (snap)
>(snap) daddys, knock me your lobes! I came to lay out Caesar, not
>to hip you to him..."

Oh my goodness.  Where can I find this masterpiece?

-- 
Jeff Klein             | "Happily, Ral doffs his outer clothing for a
Browsing Boy of the LNH|  refreshing dip in one of the dangerous 
klein@frith.egr.msu.edu|  chemical vats." - Ty Templeton
From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Anti-Arab racism on the net
Date: 2 Oct 92 12:27:29 GMT
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com

In article <1992Oct2.033113.22751@news.columbia.edu>  
ia4@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Imran Anwar) writes:
> In article <1992Oct1.015208.3507@fid.morgan.com>  
sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:
> 
> >There is evidence about David Duke (like him being a bigshot in  
the
> >KKK).  What is the evidence about Rushdie?
> 
> Oh, but Duke does say he was not really what he seemed to be, so  
doesn't
> that make him innocent just like Rushdie's claims make him "not  
offensive"
> 

The big difference is that Rushdie produced a work of fiction.
Nobody who reads fiction expects everything in the book to be 
a reflection of what the author believes. Are we to suppose that
Dickens advocated lives of crime for children living on the
street since he portrayed just that in Oliver Twist?  Of course
not.  It's a work of fiction, and that situation is part of
what Dickens used to create his novel.

Duke, on the other hand, was not writing a work of fiction about 
which he could later say "that character does not reflect my
views."  He was participating in a racist organization.


--
Jim Mann            
Stratus Computer   jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
From: tmaddox@netcom.com (Tom Maddox)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Reinforced Burns (was Re: Enforced Shakespeare?)
Date: 5 Oct 92 03:40:08 GMT
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

In article <1992Oct1.150440.14234@morrow.stanford.edu> francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir) writes:
>There is a world outside North America. Craig is arguably correct. 
>I have heard Tam O'Shanter recited by heart by the then Prime Minister
>of Western Region, Nigeria, Chief Awolowo, at a Burns Night dinner in
>Ikedja, some distance out of Lagos. I am sure that many others can recount 
>similar experiences from all over the globe. 

	Indeed.

	No matter what Burns Night I attend in whatever far-flung corner
of the globe, up pops Chief Awolowo.

	No one has the heart to tell him that what he thinks is "Tam O'Shanter"
is actually Stevie Wonder's "I Just Called to Say I Love You" (which,
interestingly enough, was just voted "Most Emetic Ballad of the '80s" by
the Audio Prisoners of America).


-- 
				Tom Maddox
		    	    tmaddox@netcom.com
		"The Reptoids eat humans like we eat chickens."
				Alex Alexander
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From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Anti-Arab racism on the net
Keywords: Equality, Fairness, Same Standards?
Organization: my opinnions only
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 22:47:01 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.033113.22751@news.columbia.edu> ia4@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Imran Anwar) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.015208.3507@fid.morgan.com> sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:
>
>>There is evidence about David Duke (like him being a bigshot in the
>>KKK).  What is the evidence about Rushdie?
>
>Oh, but Duke does say he was not really what he seemed to be, so doesn't
>that make him innocent just like Rushdie's claims make him "not offensive"

So we weigh the evidence: David Duke was a bigshot in the KKK, he made
numerous racist statements, he now claims he feels otherwise.  Rushdie
is a Moslem, he has defended the religion, he claims he didn't write
Satanic Verses with the intent of offending anybody.

>>>You MUST be telepathic to know that I am :-)  , do you hold classes.  
>>>Oh, actually, I dont even need to attend classes as lessons can be 
>>>transmitted to me telepathically :-)
>>
>>Too bad it doesn't work for clues :-)
>
>Oh, so you don't have a clue? :-)

I don't have one big enough for you.  I don't know if they come in
that size. :-)

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
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From: baker@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Andrew Baker)
Subject: Re: Kafka's "Metamorphasis"
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 05:17:12 GMT

In article <3OCT199215425081@portal.lasc.lockheed.com> le01167@portal.lasc.lockheed.com (Ron Nadel) writes:
>
>Boy!  Kafka would be turning over in his chrysalis if he could see this. 
>Kafka did not write stories just for entertainment!

That reminded me of this Kafka quote:

    If the book we are reading does not wake us, as with a fist
    hammering on our skull, why then do we read it?  Good God, we
    would also be happy if we had no books, and such books as make
    us happy we could, if need be, write ourselves.  But what we
    must have are those books which come upon us like ill-fortune,
    and distress us deeply, like the death of one we love better
    than ourselves, like suicide.  A book must be an ice-axe to
    break the sea frozen inside us.  -- Franz Kafka
From: amnell@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Marko Amnell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: She's baaaaack.....Camille Paglia
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:26:48 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <1992Oct6.201421.22594@eff.org> mnemonic@eff.org 
(Mike Godwin) writes:

>In article <1992Oct6.185712.17884@cmcl2.nyu.edu> cruz@lab.ultra.nyu.edu
(Nancy Cruz) writes:

>>I think the point is "who cares?"  It doesn't exactly make for a
>>profound read...
>
>I don't think Paglia meant for her Madonna pieces to be "profound reads."

Then why all the fuss about her book?  No, I haven't read it.  You
couldn't get me near a copy with a gun.  I read an interview in
the Sunday Times and thought she was a foul-mouthed moron.  A true
vulgarian.  One more excellent reason why I left North America for
belle Europe.  I visit NYC on occasion.  And that's about it.  The
rest of the New World looks horrible enough on CNN.  The LA riots
were just one more example of the general putrefaction.  But, of
course, most of you lot don't live in America, but safe and sound
in your Ivory Tower.

Flame away,

-- 
Marko Amnell
amnell@klaava.helsinki.fi
Graduate Student in Philosophy
From: matt@physics.berkeley.edu (Matt Austern)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: She's baaaaack.....Camille Paglia
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:06:54
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory (Theoretical Physics Group)
Reply-To: matt@physics.berkeley.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: jon@lindy.Stanford.EDU's message of Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:39:20 GMT

In article <1a81ioINNovv@lindy.Stanford.EDU> jon@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis) writes:

>    As for finding evidence of the rank personal qualities attributed to
> Paglia in the above quoted text, I'd suggest looking at any page of her
> original Arion article, her MIT lecture transcript, or the interview
> with her which was published in last Sunday's San Francisco Examiner:
> if you don't find at least one of those qualities exemplified in the
> first sentence you look at, you'll probably find it in the second.

I have not yet read _Sexual Personae_; I suppose I probably will some
day, because even if I disagree with most of what Paglia says, there's
at least some chance that she will say something interesting somewhere
in the book.

I did, however, read an exchange between Paglia and Naomi Wolf in _The
New Republic_ a couple of months back, and Paglia came across as 
very vindictive and unpleasant, far more interested in ridiculing Wolf
than in holding any kind of discussion.
--
Matthew Austern                   Just keep yelling until you attract a
(510) 644-2618                    crowd, then a constituency, a movement, a
austern@lbl.bitnet                faction, an army!  If you don't have any
matt@physics.berkeley.edu         solutions, become a part of the problem!
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From: westphal@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Dorothy Westphal)
Subject: Re: lit quiz
Keywords: duo character style
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 19:12:58 GMT

In article <BvH5AF.I8n@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> nickles@sage.cc.purdue.edu (john a nickles) writes:
>In article <7150@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM> rbeville@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Robert E Beville) writes:
>>
>>
>>	Why is the name of the literary? plot? style, in western
>>	literature of the Holmes-Watson type of story.  Where the
>>	main guy has a side-kick who asks those questions that lead
>>	to  the furtherment of the plot or exposition.  These duos
>>	are in the comics, showbiz, movies, TV...
>>
>>	What was the first piece of western lit to introduce this
>
>In the mystery genre, the detective's companion is refered to as the "Watson"
>though Watson himself was refered to as Holmes' "Boswell". (Johnson and
>Boswell! There's your first literary duo!) :)
>
I don't believe this would apply to your everyday "buddy" pair,
unless one is chronicling the activities of the other.

-- 
Dorothy Westphal, Sunnyvale, Calif. % Just when things are going your way...%
westphal@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com   %               they get even better!   %
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From: tmaddox@netcom.com (Tom Maddox)
Subject: Re: She's baaaaack.....Camille Paglia
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:31:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.092156.2074@leland.Stanford.EDU> jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey) writes:
>	Personally, I've thought Paglia to be the American Nietzche of the
>20th century.  

	Exercise for the reader:

	Is this assertion more revolting with regard to

		(a) Nietzsche?

		(b) "America"?

or,

		(c) the 20th century?

	
-- 
				Tom Maddox
		    	    tmaddox@netcom.com
		   "I swear I never heard the first shot"
                Wm. Gibson, "Agrippa:  a book of the dead"
From: roger@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (roger.s.tait..jr)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: A pox upon your book (was Re: Dashiell Hammett)
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:28:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Oct4.155335.4872@eff.org>, mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin) writes:
> As Woody Allen says in "Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Sex":
> 
> "TB or not TB--that is the congestion.
> 
> "Consumption be done about it?"
> 
Of cough! Of cough!
> 
> --Mike
-- 
-----------------
Roger Tait
att!hoqax!roger
AT&T Bell Labs Publications Center      Holmdel, NJ
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From: francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir)
Subject: Re: Three new books
Organization: Stanford Exploration Project
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 19:55:54 GMT

Francis Muir writes:

	*Roger Fry: A biography* by Virginia Woolf. HBJ paperback $10.95
	To those who know VW's non-fiction only from *A Room with a View*

Holy Moly! I thought I'd locked the door. its the other room of course,

	*A Room of One's Own*

							Fido

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From: kamorgan@athena.mit.edu (Keith Morgan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Fictitious Fiction
Date: 26 Sep 92 22:00:53 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

I wrote that:

>> _The Name of the Rose_ is a fiction concerned with a fictitious
>> work. 

Mark Taranto corrects my statement:
 
>THE NAME OF THE ROSE is not concerned with a fictitious work.
>The work in question, by Aristotle, was written.  However, no copies 
>of the work are known to exist.
 
Mark is absolutely right that Aristotle's _Poetics_ was originally two
books, one on tragedy and one on comedy. Diogenus Laertius mentions it
his catalog of Aristotle's work in _Lives of eminent philosophers_. My
problem was in conflating the discussion of a *legendary* book in a
*fictional* book. Of course, the power of Eco's novel is that the lost
book once existed. This is quite different than the discussion of a
ficitional book within the context of a fictional book.
Mea culpa.

Keith



--
Keith Morgan		 |I've always had a secret desire to harangue
kamorgan@athena.mit.edu  |a crowd of people for 10 hours in the
		         |sweltering heat. It's the origin of my
		         |fascination with public language.
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From: hhenderson@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: Cultural elite? (was: Stormin' Norman etc.)
Organization: Clark University
Date: 30 SEP 92 15:31:33 GMT

Clayton wonders:

>Perhaps you spend too much time with intellectuals and other members of
>the "culturale elit."

I only see those types when I'm in the bleachers at Fenway...

Heather
Jack Clark University
HHENDERSON@vax.clarku.edu
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