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From: axel@gambln.enet.dec.com (Mike Axel)
Subject: Re: RPG All-Star Big Band
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 23 JUL 92 09:36:40    


In article <Jul.22.17.53.18.1992.16681@ruhets.rutgers.edu>, bweiner@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Benjamin Weiner) writes...
>BOYD@UNB.CA (BOYD) asks:
>>Friend of mine told me I must buy this album (GRP All-Star Big Band),
>>but I can't find it, and we have no idea as to the recording label.
>       ^- odd, but a good sign                       ^you're looking at it,
>                                                      GRP _is_ the label.
>>Any suggestions?
> 
>  Yeah, forget GRP and buy some Duke Ellington, you won't be sorry.  I
>don't mean to be snide; it's just that GRP specializes in recording
>very watered-down "jazz", Music To Fall Asleep By; so when a lot of
>GRP artists get together, you get very limp imitations of big-band
>music.  It is probably available in all record stores though. 

Have you heard any of the cuts from this CD. GRP may specialize in 
"watered-down jazz", but check out the latest on GRP by Sal Marquez, 
Arturo Sandoval, Tom Scott, and NY Voices as well as the All-Star Big Band. 
I agree that many of GRP's CD's have been Grusin-ized, but not all. You've 
got to take each artist on his own. Fortunately, the jazz stations around here 
(Boston-Worcester) play a lot from new GRP releases so I don't burned by 
buying before listening.

Mike
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: The Beef
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Distribution: tub
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:20:25 GMT

andrew@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de (Andrew Shields) writes:
>It's killing me, I can't remember Beefheart's real name.  Don something,
>right?  Help!

Don Van Vliet.


--Gidi
From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The Man from Another Place)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: MELANIE folk singer of the sixties????????????????
Date: 31 Jul 92 06:50:37 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <1992Jul30.172620.17247@ncsu.edu>, dachamb@eos.ncsu.edu (DUANE ALFORD CHAMBLEE) writes...

} I would like to know what happened to Melanie?

She just vanished from the scene, and I've never heard what happened to her.

} Don't remember her last name

Her full name was Melanie Safka, though she never used her last name
professionally.

-- 

	"She's my radiation baby.
	 She's my teenage fallout girl."

--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
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From: drchip@cup.portal.com (MYRON A LIEBERMAN)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,rec.music.dementia
Subject: Re: shel silverstein pot song
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 23:25:41 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Jul24.190505.9569@col.hp.com>

>is this the same Shel Silverstein who wrote "the Missing Piece"...

Yes, it is the same Shel Silverstein that wrote a number of children's
books and humorous poems, many of which became his songs. The Missing
Piece, The Giving Tree, Where the Sidewalk Ends, and a series of "Uncle
Shelby's ______ " books are examples. Recorded albums include "Inside
Folk Songs", "Drain My Brain", and "A Boy Named Sue". What distinguishes
his works tends to be more the humor than the music, but he is very good.
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough)
Subject: Re: Vancouver Folk Festival
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 16:52:50 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Jul29.172106.10317@microsoft.com> ellene@microsoft.com (Ellen Mitsue Eades) writes:
>In article <1992Jul28.162705.7033@pony.Ingres.COM> jonb@ingres.com writes:
>>that can only be described as regrettable, such as the time when Robin
>>Williamson was booed into silence by a contingent of women who didn't
>>approve of his song "First Girl I Loved".  
>
>This is just plain rude.  I think I'd advise both Greg *and* the
>booing women to get up and leave if they don't like the music,

Ellen, I resent the implication that I would disrupt another performer's
performance.
 
Because, except for cases *in extremis* I would not. I might consider
a *boo* rather than applause when the appropriate time for audience
feedback (the end of the song) arrived. 
 
I might also make it clear to the organizers that I would not be supporting
anti-male political rhetoric in the future.
 
I might even confront the performers afterwards and try to raise in them
the conciousness that we're all in it together, unless they choose to
alienate my support of their efforts.
 
I have tried to make it clear to another correspondent that I (and I
believe others) see a clear line between the performance of traditional
material which is a product of its sexist and racist times and the 
development of new material which attacks people on the basis of 
accidents of birth.
 
On the other hand, I continue to have serious doubts about a festival
where it is acceptable, on one hand, to boo a performer into silence
because of some perceived political incorrectness and which, on the
other hand, gives a stage to an example of clear offensiveness and
insensitivity.

Greg

Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl)
Subject: Re: MELANIE folk singer of the sixties????????????????
Reply-To: whs70@dancer.UUCP ()
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 19:50:12 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.172620.17247@ncsu.edu> dachamb@eos.ncsu.edu (DUANE ALFORD CHAMBLEE) writes:
>I would like to know what happened to Melanie? Don't remember her last name
>she sang Animal Crackers. Thanks for any information.

I don't know what happened to her, but I think I've got at least one of
her albums at home.  

Standard Disclaimer- Any opinions, etc. are mine and NOT my employer's.
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From: carnes@ico.isc.com (Steve Carnes)
Subject: Re: shel silverstein pot song
Organization: Interactive Systems Corp., Boulder CO
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:47:44 GMT

	johne@vcd.hp.com (John Eaton) writes:
>Shel has a knack for writing interesting songs. He did "Boy Named Sue" and
>the "Unicorn Song".

and "On the Cover of Rolling Stone" and "Queen of the Silver Dollar."
-- 
Steve Carnes       carnes@ico.isc.com        uucp: {ncar,nbires}!ico!carnes
   "Rock gives reality to the otherwise abstract notion of transhuman
    time." - Edward Abbey
From: scogpw@thor.cf.ac.uk (Gordon Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Info request: Albion Day, Edinburgh, Orkneys...
Keywords: Folk music, dancing, fun, fun, fun...
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:37:02 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

In article <395@snap.UUCP> dan@codex.UUCP (Dan Breslau) writes:
|
|My wife and I are going to be travelling in England and Scotland
|next month.  We're going to be starting out at the Fairport Convention
|festival in Cropredy.  First question:  Can anyone tell us how to get
|from there to the Albion Day festival (and I'm not even sure what town
|that's in)?  We've got BritRail passes, but coach directions would be
|OK, too.  Also, any tips on any B&B's in that area which might have
|a room Sunday night (the 16'th)? (yeah, dream on ;-)
|

Sorry to disappoint you, but there is no Albion Day this year after
Cropredy - I think its going to be in Oct instead (held in Cheltenham
BTW). I think the organisers either had problems with the venue or just
that people weren't going there after Cropredy like as much as they
thought. It was actually on my way home so it worked out pretty well for
me, but obviously not for other people. Still, that sorts out your
travel/accomodation problems! ;-) (which I wouldn't have liked to advise
you on 'cos things are never simple on a Sunday in the UK!).

BTW - just a word on the Cropredy w/e - although the music is on
officially Fri and Sat, people seem to arrive thoughout the week - and
then leave sharp on Sun morning! i.e. nothing at all happens on Sunday
which I've always found a bit strange. I just hope the weather is OK -
its been pretty dodgy of late - as it's not the best festival to
cope with rain (ie there's nowhere to go to avoid it)!

gordon
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: sfy@dmp.csiro.au (Shane Youl)
Subject: Re: Richard and Linda Thomson Song
Organization: CSIRO Division of Mineral Products, Melbourne, AUSTRALIA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 23:47:00 GMT

steve@fulcrum.oz.au (Steve Taylor) writes:

>A long time ago I heard a song called "The Sun Never Shines On The Poor" by
>(I think) Richard and Linda - though it could possibly have been Richard
>solo. Can anyone tell me which disk it can be found on? My record store
>searches have been unsuccessful.

This is on the Richard and Linda Thompson album HOKEY POKEY. This is a very good
record and well worth obtaining. Available on CD as well.

Shane
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From: darsie@eecs.ucdavis.edu (Richard Darsie)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Margaret Christl (Was Re: Song info wanted)
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:08:58 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis

In article <19796@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, tzf@csl.biosci.arizona.edu (Theron Friedman) writes:
> 
> 
> I'm no longer sure where I heard this one - I think it was done by
> Margaret Crystal (from Toronto) at one of the Ann Arbor Ark Benifit
           ^^^^^^^

It's Margaret Christl, and if you ever get a chance to see her jump
at it. She's one of the most dynamic singers of traditional songs
I've ever heard. She puts more energy into her singing than half
a dozen commercial hotshots.

--Richard
From: asmith@physics.adelaide.edu.au (Andrew Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Wanted: Lyrics to "Willie McBride" (?) "No Man's Land" (?)
Date: 30 Jul 92 13:57:10 GMT
Organization: Department of Physics, University of Adelaide, South Australia

In article <1992Jul29.040525.17500@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> thughes@lonestar.utsa.edu (Toby . Hughes) writes:

>"The Green Fields of France is by Australian Eric Bogle, who also wrote another
>powerful song called "And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda."

Just a small nit-pick: Bogle is actually Scottish, although he does indeed
live in Australia, and has done so for many years.

>Strong stuff;  maybe the best anti-war anthem ever.
>
>TH

I agree.

- Andrew.

--
Andrew Smith  (asmith@physics.adelaide.edu.au)        It's worse than that, it's
Department of Physics and Mathematical Physics        physics Jim!
The University of Adelaide
GPO Box 498 Adelaide SOUTH AUSTRALIA 5001                        - Star Trekkin'
From: David.T.Greenfield@dartmouth.edu (David T. Greenfield)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Lorena ???
Date: 27 Jul 92 19:25:19 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <RATY.92Jul27173809@olorin.tele.nokia.fi>
raty@tele.nokia.fi (Timo Tero Tapio Raty) writes:

> 	My father happened to see a TV document about (folk etc.)
> songs from the times of the US' Civil War. He asked my if I could get
> words for this song called "Lorena". I might get it from library but
> I'll try this first - anybody know it ?

I wonder if it's the same as a song that the Louvin Bros did called
Lorene?  It starts off:

Lorene, Lorene
Write me a letter
Answer the last one that I sent to you

It's in a minor key.  Is this the one you're looking for?

David
david.t.greenfield@dartmouth.edu
From: greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Vancouver Folk Festival
Date: 28 Jul 92 03:19:54 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Jul27.225742.3110@henson.cc.wwu.edu> lopresti@henson.cc.wwu.edu (lopresti robert) writes:
>
>Here's a too-long review of the Vancouver Folk Festival, for such as
>may care.
>   
>Highlights included:
> 
>Moxy Fruvous - Picture Rockapella with politics...
> 
>Buffy Saint-Marie...
>...were powerful political pieces 
>                   ...At a workshop the next day she analyzed one of her
>songs, "Fallen Angels."  She argued that people in government are "power
>junkies," and said, approximately, "you give addicts compassion, but you
>don't give them the keys to the car or the reigns of the world."
> 
>Ian Stanton  - A singer on disability causes...
> 
>Archie Roach and Ruby Hunter - Australian Aborigine activists.  THey sing
>Western style protest music.
> 
>Saffire, the Uppity Blues Women - Funny and so very good.  My favorite was
>"Women, Don't Treat Your Man Like A Dog," which argued that dogs
>are much more dependable them men.
> 
>          ...Also Brigada Victor Jara (your standard Portuguese Cajun
 
Gawd, but this sounds grim, and self-righteous and... yuck.
 
Then again, there's that which is just offensive and sexist (on the
surface) such as Saffire.
 
Do they have a jam session, or do they just chastise themselves and
toddle off to bed?
 
Greg
From: dpepper@thumper.bellcore.com (David J. Pepper)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Minstrel Coffeehouse (NJ) Schedule -- August 1992
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:04:36 GMT
Reply-To: dpepper@thumper.bellcore.com (David J. Pepper)
Distribution: nj,md,pa,del,ny,conn,ri,ma
Organization: Bellcore MRE

The Folk  Project presents:
	The Minstrel Coffeehouse

The Minstrel Coffeehouse is run to encourage Folk Music in
New Jersey.  It is sponsored by The Folk Project, a non-profit 
organization.  Shows are held on Friday nights at 8:30 pm in 
the Somerset County Environmental Education Center on Lord Stirling
Rd. in Basking Ridge, NJ, about a mile in from S. Maple Ave (Basking 
Ridge exit off of I-287 in North--Central New Jersey).  Admission
is $3.50.  For more information call (201) 766-2489 or 335-9489.
Bring a MUG!  [NJ Folk Phone (201) 822-1313]

August 1992:
	7	John Lionarons   and   Howard Parker

	14	Open Stage

	21	The Risky Business Bluegrass Band   and   Ken Galipeau

	28	Leon Rosselson   and   Akire Bubar

Upcoming in Spetember:
	4	The Dirdy Birdies Jug Band
	11	Open Stage
	18	master songwriter, Bill Staines
	25	ragtime guitarist, Joan Crane (note that this is a schedule
					       change)

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	David J. Pepper    dpepper@thumper.bellcore.com
From: Peter_Ronald@mindlink.bc.ca (Peter Ronald)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Vancouver Folk Festival
Date: 29 Jul 92 03:22:16 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> Greg Bullough writes:
> Gawd, but this sounds grim, and self-righteous and... yuck.
> 
> Then again, there's that which is just offensive and sexist (on the
> surface) such as Saffire.

The Vancouver Folk Festival does take its politics seriously. One review in the
local paper compared it to eating broccoli! Folk music is traditionally an
expression of oppressed people. I for one am proud to be associated (as a
volunteer) with a successful event of this kind that is smart and progressive.

It certainly wasn't grim or self-righteous. The festival was glorious. With six
workshop stages and three nights of mainstage performances there was clearly
lots of variety for everyone.

With any luck, even some of the men in attendance may have learned from Saffire
(or other performers) about the reality of sexism and why humour is one way of
dealing with rage. If folk music can do any good at all, let it communicate
clearly to Robert and Greg and others that sexism is about more than
generalizations based on gendre.
--
Peter Ronald - @TEC Information Services  *  Rainforest Summer '92
peter@mindlink.bc.ca or tec@web.apc.org   *  Come to Clayoquot Sound this year!
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: sowton@convex.com (Robin Sowton)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Lyrics to "Willie McBride" (?) "No Man's Land" (?)
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:23:25 GMT
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              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.


Yes. Definitely a powerful song. Makem & Clancy have done a version of 
this too!


-Robin
From: Peter_Ronald@mindlink.bc.ca (Peter Ronald)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Moxy Fruvous (was Re: Vancouver Folk Festival)
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:16:37 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> Amy Elizabeth Ksir writes:
> lopresti@henson.cc.wwu.edu (lopresti robert) writes:
> >
> >Moxy Fruvous - Picture Rockapella with politics.  Four guys from Ontario
> >doing gorgeous harmony with lunatic songs about Canadian politics and
> >other topics (their rap version of Green Eggs and Ham is a killer).
> >
> 
> This sounds really cool. Where can I get a tape? (It's the rap version of
> Green Eggs and Ham that got me...) :)

The festival program mentions that they have a 6 song cassette, but it doesn't
say if Green Eggs... is on it or where it might be obtained (other than the
festival market, of course :). Did any one pick it up?

I would want a live version of this tune as the energy is partially in the
costumes and campy playing around.
--
Peter Ronald - @TEC Information Services  *  Rainforest Summer '92
peter@mindlink.bc.ca or tec@web.apc.org   *  Come to Clayoquot Sound this year!
From: wjb@moscom.UUCP (Bill de Beaubien)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,rec.music.dementia
Subject: Re: shel silverstein pot song
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:10:42 GMT
Organization: Moscom Corp., Pittsford, NY
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

johne@vcd.hp.com (John Eaton) writes:
: sramirez@milos.intel.com (Steve Ramirez) writes:
: : 
: : Does anyone recall a song (actaully more of a poem) by Shel Silverstein,
: : which tells the story of a great pot smoke-out? I remember that in the
: : end there was a man and a woman trying to smoke each other out, and
: : when they ran out of pot, she rolled him up and smoked him!
: : 
: : I only heard it once on Dr Demento, about died laughing, and now
: : my interest has been re-kindled, I would really appreciate if some kind
: : soul could either send me the words or tell me how I might find this 
: : song.
: : 
: : Thanks!
: :
:  I do remember the song and seem to remember seeing the poem published in
: an issue of Playboy. Don't remember the specifics such as month, year or
: decade. The gals name was Pearly SweetCakes or something like that.
: 
: Shel has a knack for writing interesting songs. He did "Boy Named Sue" and
: the "Unicorn Song".
: 
: John Eaton
: !hp-vcd!johne

In the laid-back California town of sunny San Rafael (sp?)
Lived a girl named Pearly Sweetcakes; you might've know her well.
She'd been stoned 16 of her 18 years and the story was widely told
That she could smoke 'em faster than any man could roll.

That's all I can remember just now;  I've got a recording of it by Marty
Burke out in the car, and will try to post the complete version later

Bill

-- 
"Bless me, Father; I ate a lizard."
"Was it an abstinence day, and was it artificially prepared?"
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Bill de Beaubien / wjb@moscom.com
From: jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: RE: Who are The House Band
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:06:30 GMT
Reply-To: jonb@ingres.com
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company

In article <YeP1dXy00UzxM1Trhu@andrew.cmu.edu>, mmbt+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mary A. Mark) writes:
>There's quite a good interview with the House Band in the 
>June/July Dirty Linen.  They are in fact a descendant of 
>original House Band that Palmer mentions in Edinburgh in
>1984: I won't go through the changes, but their current
>lineup includes:
>
>Ged Foley: singer/guitar/Northumbrian pipes
>Chris Parkinson: melodeon/harmonica
>John Skelton: flute/bombarde/whistle

Ged is a former member of Battlefield Band, if that helps anyone place
him, also on guitar/vocals/Northumbrian pipes.

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From: ddc1@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Androgynous
Date: 27 Jul 92 05:16:20 GMT
Organization: University of Scranton


	"Androgynous" (or whatever the spelling is) is by the Replacements
and is on the album LET IT BE.

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University Of Scranton	   |	   answering machine?
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From: canders@isr.harvard.edu (Carl E. Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: CONCERT: Tempest tour
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:41:35 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

In article <MARTIN.92Jul29085504@lyra.cis.umassd.edu> martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin) writes:
>Did I miss something?   Who is/are Tempest and what kind of music do it
>make?

	Tempest is IMHO a very good Celtic folk-rock band in the tradition
of Fairport, based in CA.  They are led by Leif S|rbye (ex of Golden Bough)
who plays double-necked electric mandolin.  I forget the other's names
offhand, but they have elec. guitar, bass, drums, and recently a fiddler.
They've just put out their third album (the first with the fiddler).
	I have never had the opportunity to see them (but certainly intend
to catch them in Boston on 8/26!) but have read reviews which indicate that
they are an excellent live band.
	I highly recommend them.

Cheers,
Carl

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From: rm4@st-andrews.ac.uk (Rosa Michaelson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Altan information
Summary: Fantastic!!
Date: 27 Jul 92 09:37:23 GMT
Organization: Not St. Andrews University


I saw Altan in Febuary in FortWilliam(having gone to see the Breton
band Den who did not play due to organisation mix up). Capercaillie
were on the same evening in the big marquee. Alas the sound for C. was
absolutely ABISMAL(- and I do not blame Dods the sound man for once). As
it was for all the other acts(solo wee clarsach player, gaelic duo, pipes
etc etc). But Altan had a very compatent sound woman who changed all
the microphones. They were fantastic. Very strong sound from three fiddles-
all with differing styles, the flute palying superb as ever and the singing
grand. I do not find them as loose or erratic as the Bothy band - and they
have a very different style but I think they are just as legendry!!
 
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