From: Donna.D'Iorio@f7022.n124.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Donna D'Iorio)
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Subject: Passover/Easter
Date: 25 Sep 92 16:25:02 GMT
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    In response to Harvey Smith:

HS>KM>I never said they were no longer relevant, but they have to change.

HS>One need only recognize what the Passover is really all about before mak
HS>such statements.  For one it has changed dramatically.  We
HS>do not each roast a lamb in our homes and eat all of
HS>before morning.  We no longer apply the blood to the door
HS>posts of our homes etc..

    yep...I have read the Levitical passages and realize all that was
called for.  I was referring to "change" as being the Church's absolute
dismissal of any relevance or significance in the biblical appointed
feasts, and the replacing with Easter, a mixture of Christian elements
with pagan elements....all this to distance "Christianity" from anything
Jewish.  Sorry, but this bothers me.

HS>However, the symbolism is still there, and it is applied to
HS>the Blood of Yeshua that is applied to our hearts, the
HS>entrance way to our souls, and it is the Blood of the Lamb
HS>which delivers us evil etc...

    And this is why it bothers me, because it is a witness to the Jewish
people that has been stripped from the faith, and also a witness to the
Gentiles as to the Jewish roots of the faith.

HS>And, the passover celebration or seder, is still in order for it is a
HS>memorial feast of the Great deliverance from Egypt, in
HS>which all Jews were in the loins of their fathers in
HS>bondage with them.  Hence the celebration goes on
HS>commerating the great deeds of G-d Almighty to our
HS>people... So it is not just type and shadows, but actually

    Sure, I agree that the Sedar is also a memorial, but I certainly saw
the type and shadow of the Messiah's sacrifice in it.  To me this is all
the more reason that these things not be so unknown or unheard of in
Gentile Christianity.  I don't propose that it is a necessity for all
Gentile believers to throw away their way of observing the memorial of
Messiah's sacrifice, but I do believe it would be awfully beneficial to
all if these things were not rejected as having been done away with,
replaced, with nothing to speak to Gentile Christian faith.
    Yes, we have communion which from the Last Supper--a Passover Sedar
--Messiah pointed to the elements of wine and unleavened bread as
symbolic of His body and blood, and this we do in rememberance of His
sacrifice.
    Yes, the Passover is a memorial of the exodus out of Egypt and
deliverance from bondage....and it is the same for every Gentile
believer in a spiritual sense--we have also been delievered out of
bondage and spiritually exited Egypt.

HS>Of course, for the non Jewish believers it is not
HS>necessary, but as the Apostles taught in Acts 15, if they
HS>want to know more they can find out from Synagogues, and
    No, it is not necessary for Gentile believers to observe...but I
believe the Gentile total rejection of any significance to the biblical
feasts is tragic....for their own sakes, and for the sake of Israel.
    Donna D'I

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