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From: gregde@microsoft.com (Greg Demichillie)
Subject: Re: VCR PLUS code conflicts in TV Guide
Date: 05 Jan 93 21:20:36 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Distribution: usa
Keywords: vcr+

In article <1993Jan5.042055.9206@bilver.uucp> bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) writes:
>In article <1993Jan04.211801.3124@microsoft.com> gregde@microsoft.com (Greg Demichillie) writes:
>>Would somebody explain to me why you would go to all the trouble 
>>of firing up a PC to create VCR+ codes and then entering them 
>>instead of just programming your damn VCR the regular way?
>
>But - let me ask you this.   Have you ever put a program into a VCR,
>gone away for a few days, and come back to find nothing recorded, all
>because power went out and wiped out the programming in the VCR.
>
>That's the joy of the VC+.    It's a battery device, and as long as the
>power is on when you want to record the program, it activates your vcrs
>remote control section, and away you go.
>

Ah, now this is starting to make sense.  I've never had a power failure
cause me to miss a program and I don't have a cable box so these 2
reasons hadn't occured to me.

I stand corrected.


-Greg




-- 
Greg DeMichillie          Microsoft AFX         
gregde@microsoft.com      All opinions are mine, not Microsoft's
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Subject: Re: Tape rewinder - best use! 
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:23:03 GMT

I still haven't decided whether rewinding my own tapes in the VCR
is hurtful or not.  But when I RENT a videotape, I ALWAYS rewind it
in a separate rewinder.  I want to minimize contact of my VCR with
whatever flaking oxides may be falling off the rental tape.


-- 
	The answer is never simple and is always changing.
    William L.R. (Bill) Cruce       INTERNET: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu 
Neurobiology Dept, NE Ohio U Coll of Med, POB 95, Rootstown, OH 44272 
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: spinaa@rpi.edu (Matt Garretson)
Subject: Problem with new SONY SLV-696HF
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:02:05 GMT

Basically, I'm pretty pleased with the VCR, except for two things. I was 
wondering if anyone else has had similar problems with the 696:

1) When playing a tape with a Hifi audio track, there is an annoying click
   that happens every so often (on the order of once every 2 minutes) during
   which one of the channels (usually the left) seems to drop out. The
   disturbance lasts only about 1/2 a second each time, but it's still
   annoying. It happens with every tape, so I doubt it's just dropouts on
   the tape.

2) The picture seems to roll more often when playing tapes than with other
   VCRs I've seen. It doesn't happen that often; I was just wondering if
   if might be a peculiarity with the auto tracking system.

Luckily, it's still under manufacturer's warranty (measly 3 months), but I
don't relish having to go through the hassle/expense of sending the thing
to one of the few Sony service centers.

Has anyone noticed similar things about this VCR?  Any comments would be
appreciated.

Thanks,
Matt
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: VCR PLUS code conflicts in TV Guide
Keywords: vcr+
Date: 5 Jan 93 18:22:56 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1iakf6INNpbe@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley) writes:
<In article <1993Jan04.211801.3124@microsoft.com> gregde@microsoft.com (Greg Demichillie) writes:
<>Would somebody explain to me why you would go to all the trouble 
<>of firing up a PC to create VCR+ codes and then entering them 
<>instead of just programming your damn VCR the regular way?
<
<Because some VCRs can't be programmed both ways at the same time. Either
<you set the time and date on the VCR every time the power goes off for 2
<seconds and then program everything into the VCR, or you push a few
<buttons on a VCR+ once and let it take care of everything.

Get a VCR that doesn't lose track of time right after the power goes out.
Mine at least lasts for 1/2 hour (or more).
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From: d32x@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: TR101 WideAngleLense Sony VCL0752C
Date: 5 Jan 93 07:47:12 EST
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

I am selling a Sony VCL-0752C 0.7X wide angle lense.  It has excellent all
metal construction, with rubber grip strip, 3 coated elements, and a 52mm
thread on back for TR101 (& clones), or any other 52mm Sony camcorder, like
their (V99).  It comes with a drawstring purse, and I'm also including a Tiffen
77mm UV filter and snap in lense cap.  Can even be used with 35mm cameras if
you so desire, for occassional use.  Excellent shape.  Cost me $150, selling
all for only $90, and I'll pay shipping.  Please respond with any interest or
ideas of where else to post this message.
Thank you, and I hope somebody out there can benefit from this excellent
product.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: stubaker@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Stuart Baker)
Subject: Photo CD-Info
Summary: information on Kodak Photo CD-System 
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:10:55 GMT


I would like any info that people have on the Kodak Photo CD system.  We have
the opportunity to upgrade CD-ROM drives on our LAN to accomodate their system
and I would like know more. Respond throught group or to stubaker@nwu.edu
Thank in anticipation.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: tlai@us.oracle.com (Titus Lai)
Subject: HiFi VCR Recommendation
Originator: tlai@utopia.us.oracle.com
Organization: Oracle Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:02:45 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

I've had an RCA VR671HF hifi VCR for the past two years and have been very
happy with it, but now the tuner's going flaky, and I want to replace it.

Last week I bought a Mitsubishi HS-U55, a model that the salesdroid says
is being discontinued.  While the features are nice, I found that the
picture quality on playback absolutely sucks compared to my RCA, in both
SP and EP modes.  I found this extremely surprising considering that the
U55's list price is $200 more than the RCA's price two years ago.

Well needless to say, the U55 is going back this weekend, but before I
take it in, I'd like to get some recommendations for some other models to
look at.  In short, I'd like a hifi VCR in the $400 range to be used
primarily for timeshifting.  Editing features are not important, but I
must be able to set the input source when progamming the timer (I'm
guessing this is pretty much standard by now, but this was not the case on
the Sharp VCR I had before the RCA), since I also the VCR to record radio
programs.  I want some sort of "simulcast" mode as well (my cable company
doesn't broadcast MTV in MTS, but it does have an FM stereo simulcast; go
figure).  And of course, the picture quality has to equal or better the RCA.
In particular, how does the current crop of RCA's stack up?

Thanks for any help.

-- 
Titus Lai
Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores, CA         
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From: killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Need Video Editing Recommendations
Date: 8 Jan 93 17:06:53 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <33160021@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com>, pi@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Paul Ilgenfritz) writes:
> That said, it certainly would be nice for some company to break the
> artificial barrier which is preventing computer controlled equipment from
> reaching the consumer price range.

Hasn't Sony done this with VISCA?

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From: CHONGHGP@SGPVM1.VNET.IBM.COM ("Peter Chong")
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: LD-S2, LD-X1 what's the difference?
Date: 6 Jan 93 08:01:57 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 10:20:57 SGP

Anyone know what is the difference between the Pioneer LD-S1, LD-S2 so
raved by everyone in the US, and the LD-X1 found in Asia?

How does the Pioneer Elite series stand in comparison to the new 9XX
series? Does any of these suffer from the problems that mime the D-7XX
and the 309X series?

Thanks,
Pete
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: gregde@microsoft.com (Greg Demichillie)
Subject: Re: VCR PLUS code conflicts in TV Guide
Date: 04 Jan 93 21:18:01 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Distribution: usa
Keywords: vcr+

In article <C0B33C.7Kv@ra.nrl.navy.mil> buck@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Loren Buchanan) writes:
>Now that I have source code to generate VCR+ codes, I will be able to 
>program it for various cable programs, etc. that VCR+ codes are not published
>for.  Another reason I want this is the VCR+ is a great back up for the
>programming on the VCR.  Every go away for a couple of days and come back to
>flashing "12:00" and nothing has been recorded because of a power failure?
>With duplicate programing on your VCR+ you will have all the programs that
>were lost (assuming power was available when the show was actually on).
>

I've been quitely ignoring this thread until know.  

Would somebody explain to me why you would go to all the trouble 
of firing up a PC to create VCR+ codes and then entering them 
instead of just programming your damn VCR the regular way?

It sould like using a chainsaw to cut butter if you ask me.


-Greg



-- 
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gregde@microsoft.com      All opinions are mine, not Microsoft's
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: freedman@cs.colostate.edu (keith freedman)
Subject: Re: Any way to *CREATE* VCR Plus codes??
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 19:17:44 GMT
Reply-To: freedman@cs.colostate.edu
Organization: Colorado State University -=- Computer Science Department

In article 601@hnrc.tufts.edu, jerry@hnrc.tufts.edu (Jerry Dallal) writes:
>In article <4681@vidiot.UUCP>, brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>> This may sound stupid, but ever thought of actually programming your VCR?
>
>To summarize:
>
>1) VCR+ won't get wiped out by a power failure.  (Why don't VCR manufactures
>      give us battery backup?  Clock radio manufacturers (the *same* people!)
>      do!)
>
>2) A VCR+ can change channels on a cable box.  Great if your cable hookup
>      requires your VCR to be set on channel 3 always.
>
This is a "Feature" of SOME VCR+ VCR's.  Price checking looked like a $100 added
feature--It does NOT COME WITH VCR+.

>3) Depending on the A/V hookup, it may be easier to use a VCR+ than call up
>      the VCR's programming screen.
>4) Some VCR's are a real pain to program.  For example, one of my Panasonics
>      does not allow me to enter the start time directly.  When I enter a 
>      program, it sets the start time at the current time and requires me 
>      to press a START button which advances the start time 1 minute for each 
>      press and in 10 minute jumps when the button is held down (at the rate 
>      of about 1 jump every half second).  I get tired of waiting around for 
>      the clock to advance.
>
these problems are EASILY fixed.  If you're buying a new VCR (to get VCR+ or
whatever) you can just buy one that's EASY to program (I have an RCA 4-head
HI-FI) and save the $50 by not getting the VCR+.

>5) You can't program your VCR while it's recording, but you can program the
>      VCR+.
>
Many of the VCR+ VCR's I've looked at need to be powered off to record anything
that is set with the timer--VCR+ or standard.  This, again, is a feature and 
some non-VCR+ machines DO allow you to program while recording!

>6) Programming the VCR invariably means interrupting the show that's currently
>      being viewed in order to call up the on-screen programming.  Not so for
>      the VCR+.
>
Again, not so for SOME VCR+ and not so for SOME standard VCR's.

>An aside . . .
>
>7) I have heard it said (but not verified) that one of the reasons for the need
>      to generate VCR+ codes is that it will enable satellite dish owners to
>      use them for taping.
or you can just program the channel and time by hand--probably faster than
generating the codes!


---
Keith Freedman
Colorado State University
Department of Computer Science
Systems Administration

Newsgroups: rec.video
From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Subject: Re: LD-S2, LD-X1 what's the difference?
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:21:21 GMT
Reply-To: rjn@csn.org
Organization: Fort Collins, Colorado
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

Bill Vermillion (bill@bilver.uucp) wrote:

>>The LD-S1 is an older model (~1987-90) and was the first LD player to
>>have digital field effects.  The LD-S2 is currently the most expensive
>>LD player in the U.S. but, as it was introduced in mid-1990, is getting
>>dated.  I don't know how the LD-X1 relates to these two.
> 
> I thought it was the LD-W1 with first digital field effects.
> It was also their first dual drawer unit.   Or am confused.

LD-X1 is the model number of the LD-S2 outside the US.

The LD-S1, which preceeded the LD-S2, was the first consumer player with
field store.

The LD-W1 was the first 4-sided player.  It was introduced with the
CLD-3030, and both were the first field-store players priced below the
LD-S1.

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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: chung@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Vicente Chung)
Subject: Re: Need info on macrovision
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:00:31 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <1993Jan11.131853.16452@Lehigh.EDU>, lusol@Lehigh.EDU (Stephen O. Lidie) writes:
|> In article <4902@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU> imoss@copper.denver.colorado.edu
|> (Ira David Moss) writes:
|> >In article <1993Jan6.201912.11546@ncsu.edu> kester@mte.ncsu.edu (Dan Kester)
|> writes:
|> >>
|> >> I only recently found out about macrovision, and have some questions on it. 
|> >>
|> >>How does it work (simplified explanations preferred!) Is it a software or
|> >>hardware system (or both)? Does it work on all VCRs? 
|> >>
|> >>Dan Kester
|> >>kester@mte.ncsu.edu
|> >
|> >      Macrovison works by working with the sync tip.  If you look at
|> Macrovision
|> >on a scope, the sycn tip falls and then rises again about every 10 seconds.  
|> >   All consumer VCR's something called automastic gain control AGC, it's
|> always
|> >on, and when your VCR's AGC tries to lock onto the tip, it can't because it
|> >varies,  industial machines have the option of turning the AGC off, so that
|> >they may record Macrovision, other than that the only way to strip it is 
|> >through a processor
|> 
|> I've heard that 8mm VCRs can record macrovision protected VHS tapes, true?
|> 
|> SOL

I have a VHS VCR and an 8mm camcorder.  I have made copies of Macrovision protected
tapes to the camcorder and I can see changes in the brightness in the pictures 
from one to 10 seconds (depending on the scene).  It it not very annoying.  I 
will noticed it but after a while I get used it and it does not bother me.  
So I am curious of what are effect of Macrovision from VHS -> VHS?

-- 
Vicente Chung
CHUNG@RCHLAND.VNET.IBM.COM
Xref: sparky rec.video:15485 alt.sources.d:1653
From: clements@bbn.com (Bob Clements)
Newsgroups: rec.video,alt.sources.d
Subject: Re: HERE IS VCR Plus source code
Date: 6 Jan 1993 14:30:52 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: classic.bbn.com

In article <2985@perl-sun.dwrsun4.UUCP> perl@dwrsun4.UUCP (Robert Perlberg) writes:
>Sorry, but the documentation is correct.  You're right that the code
>needs a date to be meaningful, but it does not have to be the date of
>the program, only a date close to that of the program.


I haven't looked at these programs in detail, but the algorithm as
published in Cryptologia needs the MONTH and YEAR, not the DAY.



>The date of the
>program is encoded into the code, but the code is not complete enough
>to specify every date in history, so it specifies a date within a
>certain time frame and you need to know the time frame to derive the
>date.

The time frame is the month.

>Robert Perlberg

Bob Clements, K1BC, clements@bbn.com
From: ajeans@hplred.HPL.HP.COM (Albert Jeans)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:44:14 GMT
Subject: Re: Need Video Editing Recommendations
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.video

I'm in the process of buying a consumer model video editor. At first I tried
the Azden VE-100 (~$300) which provides just basic assembly editing. The 
problem was I couldn't get it to control my VCRs. Azden admitted there
success rate on Sharps was 50/50, but this unit didn't work with a Mitsubishi
either. Also, the control cables were only about 3 feet long and used a 6
pin connector (standard?) on the Azden side.

So, next I'm going to try the Videonics Edit Maker ($480) which also has some
special effects and character generating ability. Videonics is based near here
in Campbell CA and also makes higher end gear, so hopefully their products
will be better. They also came out with a very simple editor called Thumbs Up
($180) that does less than the Azden.

Sima products seem to be very low quality and not worth it.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: hbechtel@luke.wsu.edu (H. E. Bechtel)
Subject: editing video
Originator: hbechtel@luke.eecs.wsu.edu
Organization: Washington State University!
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 00:29:06 GMT

I have a question about editing video...

I would like to know how I could attach either 2 camcorders or
1 camcorder and a vcr together so I could blend in the images.

I recently saw the Peter, Paul, & Mary Holiday Concert on videotape
and noticed on several occasions, the singers were ghosts over the background
of a bunch of people.

I would like to be able to do that 'CHEAPLY' if at all possible.  I can merge
audio tapes quite cheaply, and I want to be able to merge video in a similar
way.

What equipment should I look for, where is it purchasable from, and
how much is it?  I am interested in this for only a hobby, not a 
profession.

I have an amiga1000 computer with a genlock, but the genlock only has
one video input and one video out.

Thanks for any and all help on this.  Please email to
hbechtel@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu

Hans Bechtel

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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: kehcheng@netcom.com (Keh-Cheng Chu)
Subject: Bent vertical lines near top of screen
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:55:51 GMT

The following problem began to appear after I upgraded my system
(JVC H-something-62 VCR and Sony TS27 TV set):

When playing some video rental tapes, the top 5% of the screen suffers
a gradual horizontal shift to the right.  Thus any vertical line near
the top appears bent, and it becomes almost horizontal at the very top.
And when this happens, it's not just the picture itself - the on-screen
display from the TV set (e.g., the channel number, etc.) is also deformed.

So far I've noticed this problem with some of the tapes I rented and
some of my Walt Disney tapes.  Tapes recorded on the JVC deck or on
my old Sharp deck show no such deformation.  I have tried every adjustment
available, including turning the auto tracking feature off and switching
to manual.  None had any effect on the problem.

I would appreciate very much hearing from people with similar experience
and how they solve it.

Keh-Cheng Chu
kehcheng@netcom.netcom.com
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: lindh@uhasun.hartford.edu (Andrew Lindh)
Subject: Re: VHS head velocity
Organization: The University of Hartford
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:40:47 GMT
X-Posted-From: hobbes.hartford.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu


In article <147720008@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com>, jem@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com (Jim McCauley) writes:
> Some wise soul here must know this...
> 
> What is the velocity of the head relative to the tape in SP mode in a
> VHS recorder?  I don't have any useful references that state the
> actual "virtual tape speed."

I remember reading somewhere that on beta it was 7m/second


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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: lance@hartmann.austin.ibm.com (Lance Hartmann)
Subject: Seeking video FAQ, intro book recommendations on editing.
Summary: Newbie to video seeks sources to learn more.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:33:24 GMT
Reply-To: lance%hartmann.austin.ibm.com@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com
Organization: IBM, Austin
Keywords: faq book sony tr101 camcorder pc computer editing
Followup-To: poster

Just got a TR-101 for Christmas and am eager to learn more.  Didn't
see a FAQ here -- could someone send me a copy or point me to
an automated-email site (don't have direct FTP).

Also, I would really appreciate any recommendations for books and
instructional videos on performing camcorder editing.  Am most
interested in editing with a PC (note:  don't own an Amiga).  Since
I'm quite new and more of a software person, I'd like something
VERY simple to start with.

Thanks much in advance,
Lance Hartmann (lance%hartmann.austin.ibm.com@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com)
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: hyc@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Howard Chu)
Subject: VHS tape print-thru?
Organization: SAR Systems Development & Processing, JPL
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 09:36:51 GMT

I've got a 120 minute Sony V VHS cassette that I've dubbed some audio stuff
onto. (The original audio source is a regular audio cassette; I figured a
Hi-Fi VHS copy would make a better general use copy since I tend to play it
very often and I also like to use the repeat feature of my VHS deck to replay
a song multiple times...) Anyway, there's about 20 seconds of silence between
each song, and recently I've been noticing audible music during those
intervals that used to be silence. I guess this is mainly just a curiosity
for me, not a real annoyance (since the tape is basically a rehearsal tape
that I practice along with...).

Another thing I've noticed is that the audio is a bit higher pitched on the VHS
copy now than the original audio cassette copy. (Verified with an electronic
instrument tuner.) You'd think that as a tape stretches, the effective playback
would be slowed down, eh?
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