HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: puckett@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Jim Puckett)
Newsgroups: alt.recovery
Subject: Re: Stop drinking step?
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:56:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: lambda.1992Apr14.155610.5686
Organization: NASA/MSFC

schmitt@convex.com (Herb Schmitt) writes:

>I had a newcomer stump me last nite. After 2-1/2 years in AA, and having
>worked the steps and sponsored various individuals, and *THINKING* I knew
>what the program was all about, I had a newcomer stump me!

>All he asked was: "What step do you stop drinking"!....."You all say that
>the primary purpose of this program is to stop drinking, then you come out
>with 12 steps that say nothing <literally> about stopping drinking!"

I _didn't_ stop drinking. I just wasn't drinking while working the Steps.
I understood that I can't work the steps while drinking (Step 1, 12&12)
so I got busy.8-)

But I think that the newbie came up with the truth. There _is_ no step
where we stop drinking, because it is a _spiritual_ program. 

If we could _stop drinking_, we wouldn't need the other 11 steps! 8-)


>I would like some thoughts tossed back at me.

>Herb

Catch!

love and service,

jim p.
-- 
Jim Puckett    NTI    puckett@freedom.msfc.nasa.gov     
Huntsville,AL (205)544-8457

*****!Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty!*****
From: ronan@codon3 (Karen Ronan;161 GPBB;x2-0884)
Newsgroups: alt.recovery
Subject: Re: Sorry about that... ;<
Date: 14 Apr 1992 14:50:13 GMT
Organization: University of California
NNTP-Posting-Host: codon3.berkeley.edu

In article <26908@ursa.UUCP> millman@ursa.UUCP (Phillip Millman) writes:
>Hey if you can do it on your own, that's great.  But for this drunk I was 
>self-will run riot.  I also perfer to get better with other people 
>'cause it sure beats being by yourself.
>
>Books are OK but people are where its at.
>
>(Give me a call when you stop white knuckle it.)

Although I wasn't the original poster I wanted to attempt
to clarify something (what else).

"Self will" might be a phrase which means "selfish willfulness,"
"self-absorption" OR it might have been used to mean "the power
of the human will."

We have been given our WILL as a gift by Spirit/God/Universe/etc.
Without our WILL we are nothing.  A Higher Power is working through
our will to act, our will to feel our feelings, and so on.

And one thing about books...a BOOK can be a FRIEND. A BOOK
doesn't talk back, criticize, or abandon you. I truly consider
the books on my shelves to be friends of mine. Not all of my
friends are human in form! 

The original poster did not sound, to me, like someone who
had no interaction with other people. She appeared to like
reading. 
Best wishes,
Karen


ronan@codon2.berkeley.edu

"Where the seller of stars, for a penny or two, will sell your
Heart's desire to you."
From: puckett@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Jim Puckett)
Newsgroups: alt.recovery
Subject: Re: Day 3
Date: 17 Apr 92 13:51:57 GMT
Organization: NASA/MSFC

debrag@mattys.EBay.Sun.COM (Debra Giberson) writes:

>Day 3; Still Kicking; Not Smoking

>Debra


dear Debra:

Don't quit before the miracle!

love and service,,

jim p.

-- 
Jim Puckett    NTI    puckett@freedom.msfc.nasa.gov     
Huntsville,AL (205)544-8457

*****!Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty!*****
Newsgroups: alt.recovery
From: foonberg@Aero.org (Alan Foonberg)
Newsgroups: la.general
Subject: Re: Car Rallyes
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:25:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: aero.1992Apr14.142547.14865
Reply-To: foonberg@aero.org
Distribution: la
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation

In article <21128@venera.isi.edu>, jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan) writes:
|> 
|> Anyone know when the next Sepulveda dam/valley car rallye is?  I used
|> to be on the mailing list, but somehow got dropped.

Not to worry; rallyes have been sparse lately, unless I've been dropped from
the mailing list as well.  Last time there was a rallye - probably back in
January - the only flyer was for a rallye on 5/30/92.  I don't remember which
rallye, however.
From: rkou@skat.usc.edu (Roger H. Kou)
Newsgroups: la.general
Subject: ucla's library system/access
Date: 10 Apr 1992 13:39:14 -0700
Organization: USC Computing Services, Los Angeles
Distribution: la
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu


hello la.general readers and those of you from ucla,

is there a way to telnet, or any other way, to ucla's library system and
check what books/periodicals are available? 

thanks,

Roger...
From: tli@skat.usc.edu (Tony Li)
Newsgroups: la.general
Subject: Re: ucla's library system/access
Date: 12 Apr 1992 00:42:48 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: la
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu

In article <6685@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> kdlin@laplace.scd.ucar.edu (K. David Lin) writes:
    In article <kud734INNeo6@skat.usc.edu> tli@skat.usc.edu (Tony Li) writes:
    #
    #    >is there a way to telnet, or any other way, to ucla's library system and
    #    >check what books/periodicals are available? 
    #    
    #    UCLA's equipment and/or mentality seems to be too obsolete to allow this, but
    #    you can telnet to melvyl.ucop.edu to access the UC catalog, which includes
    #    UCLA records.
    
    This is a *VERY* ignorant reply. You can telnet to our ORION system,
    which runs on IBM 3090, to find what you want. The Internet address
    is oac.ucla.edu. Our recent upgrade on this system supports AIX, which
    is America's first super computing in UNIX environment. I'm sure that 
    you Trogans are jealous. ;)

Excuse me, but while we are misattributing replies, let's please try
to get our facts straight.  Ever hear of Unicos?  And I will be kind
and not start in on 3090's or your spelling.

-- 
Tony Li - Escapee from the USC Computer Science Department          tli@usc.edu
		       The net is not what it seems.
From: ECL4MVN@mvs.oac.ucla.edu (Michael Van Norman)
Newsgroups: la.general
Subject: Re: ucla's library system/access
Date: 13 Apr 92 09:51:25 PDT

>Many universities allow free (no account) access to their card catalogs.  This
>is what I meant when I said UCLA was obsolete.
>
>I would be thrilled to have the people in charge of orion post any kind of
>rebuttal, but it's not going to happen, because they don't seem to know about
>Usenet, either.

I am not "in charge of ORION" by any stretch of the imagination, but I
am one of the ORION developers (but the following opinions are mine
alone -- I DO NOT speak for the UCLA Library).  Yes, using ORION
requires that you have an account on OAC's mainframe.  The Library did
not make that rule and many of us would like to see it go away, but we
don't own the machine.  We pay for our accounts and the resources we use
on the ES/9000 just like everyone else.  The Library does, however,
provide free accounts to UCLA students.

================================================================================
Michael Van Norman                             11334 University Research Library
Library Information Systems/Development        405 Hilgard Avenue
ecl4mvn@mvs.oac.ucla.edu                       Los Angeles, CA  90024-1575
                                               (310)825-1206
================================================================================
           "Mine was a lovely world -- until the parasites took over"
                                              - Jubal Harshaw
Newsgroups: la.general
From: coleman@rocky.cs.ucla.edu (Mike Coleman)
Subject: Re: ucla's library system/access
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Distribution: la
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 03:07:57 GMT

kdlin@laplace.scd.ucar.edu (K. David Lin) writes:
|In article <kud734INNeo6@skat.usc.edu> tli@skat.usc.edu (Tony Li) writes:
|#    UCLA's equipment and/or mentality seems to be too obsolete to allow this, but
|#    you can telnet to melvyl.ucop.edu to access the UC catalog, which includes
|#    UCLA records.

|This is a *VERY* ignorant reply. You can telnet to our ORION system,

David,

The "ignorant" reply is *mine*--please watch your attribution.

Yes, you can telnet to orion, but you can't *use* it without an account.  And
as far as I can tell, the original poster is not someone who would be able to
get one.  Thus, orion is of no use to them.

Many universities allow free (no account) access to their card catalogs.  This
is what I meant when I said UCLA was obsolete.  

I would be thrilled to have the people in charge of orion post any kind of
rebuttal, but it's not going to happen, because they don't seem to know about
Usenet, either.

Mike
-- 
--Mike Coleman (coleman@cs.ucla.edu), Ringmaster, Boelter Hall Roach Circus--
   The more Angelino drivers I meet, the more I like Charles Manson.
Newsgroups: la.general,ca.general
From: greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Quiet Riot in San Diego
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:55:24 PDT

I was just looking at a copy of BAM Magazine and discovered that
Quiet Riot is going to be playing this Saturday night, April 11,
at a club in San Diego (Sound FX, I think it said).  Well, that
just so happens to be my birthday, and it just so happens that I
will be in San Diego.  I remember standing out in front of the
Bachannal, another club in SD, watching Quiet Riot when they
first came out almost ten years ago.  I was in high school at the
time, and not old enough to get in...

So I think I have decided to go see them, for old time's sake and
to help stop myself from feeling old at the ripe old age of
twenty five.  Anyone want to join me and help me celebrate?

|  Greg Orman                              greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
|         Bang your head!  Metal health will drive you mad...         |
From: jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan)
Newsgroups: la.general
Subject: Car Rallyes
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:20:37 GMT
Distribution: la
Organization: USC-ISI


Anyone know when the next Sepulveda dam/valley car rallye is?  I used
to be on the mailing list, but somehow got dropped.

jas
--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jeffrey A. Sullivan		| Senior Systems Apologist, Grade F
jas@venera.isi.edu		| Information Sciences Institute
jas@isi.edu                    	| University of Southern California
Newsgroups: la.general
From: dorab@twinsun.com (Dorab Patel)
Subject: Re: A poppy a day keeps the doctor away
Organization: Twin Sun, Inc
Distribution: ca
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:32:50 GMT

i went last weekend and there weren't too many wildflowers to see...
somewhat of a disappointment.  i'm told that they might bloom a
couple of weeks later.  i have an old number for the "flowers
hotline"  (818)  768-3533 that might give you current information.
i haven't called this number recently, so don't know if it is still
functioning.  as for directions.... 405 north,  5 north, 14 north/east,
past palmdale, near lancaster, take Avenue I west-ish to the
california poppy reserve.  if you go to the visitor center, there is
a $5 charge for parking.  but you can just pull off the avenue I a
little west of the visitor center and watch more flowers for free.

unfortunately, i dont have the phone number of the visitor center
with me, but if you call the state dept of parks they might be able
to give it to you.

'dorab
From: aniekan@skat.usc.edu (Aniekan Akpaffiong)
Newsgroups: la.general
Subject: A poppy a day keeps the doctor away
Date: 14 Apr 1992 17:25:15 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu
Summary: Wildflowers in bloom

I need to get out of the city.

Finals are about 2 weeks away and, like Billy said, I think this
[job] is killing me.  I went to see my bartender last night and
she suggested a day out in the dessert.  I could deal with a day
out in the dessert watching condors and fields upon fields of
wildflowers in full bloom.  Can anyone suggest a suitable location?
Somewhere within a few hours of Southern Cal.  I would REALLY
appreciate any information you could send my way.
_____________________________________________________________________________
INTERNET:aniekan@usc.edu         ||"They laugh, 'cos they know they're
    UUCP:...!uunet!usc!aniekan   || untouchable, not because what I said
University of Southern California|| was wrong."           -- Sinead O'Connor
_____________________________________________________________________________
From: torne@aludra.usc.edu (Jordi Torne')
Newsgroups: la.general
Subject: Furniture for sale
Date: 9 Apr 1992 15:39:13 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: la
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu
Summary: Bed-sofa & dinette

I have the following furniture for sale.

	- 1 Bed Sofa, 3 seats, queen size bed. Metal structure.
		5 mo. old, Scotch Guard protected warranty for 2 more years.
	        Blue/grey.
	- 1 dinette. Glass-top table, and four chairs. Fabric upholstery.
		Black mostly. 5 mo. old. Easy assembly/disassembly.

	Everything is in excelent condition. On sale for moving. I'll
consider any offer. If interested, email to torne@usc.edu (prefered) or
call (310) 478-4779. (Playa del Rey)

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Jorge F. Torne Garcia  -  Jordi.Torne@acsc.com, torne@usc.edu
Advanced Computing Support Center - University of So. California
Newsgroups: la.general
From: coleman@rocky.cs.ucla.edu (Mike Coleman)
Subject: Those little yellow call boxes at the side of the freeway
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 02:57:51 GMT

Anybody ever wonder if those little yellow call boxes at the side of the
freeway actually work?  I was driving down the freeway today and saw a vehicle
stranded in a middle lane.  I decided to be nice and call him a tow, so I
stopped at one of the boxes.  I push the button and hear

	dial-busy-redial-busy-redial-busy-redial-busy-redial-busy-clunk

I push it again

	dial-busy-redial-busy-redial-busy-redial-busy-redial-busy-clunk

I gave up.  I'm sure glad it wasn't a real emergency.

Mike
-- 
--Mike Coleman (coleman@cs.ucla.edu), Ringmaster, Boelter Hall Roach Circus--
I saw a commercial on television the other day which began, "Southern
California--there's no place in the world quite like it."  Kind of like
saying, "Grant's tomb--only one person ever buried there."
Newsgroups: la.general
From: dorab@twinsun.com (Dorab Patel)
Subject: Re: A poppy a day keeps the doctor away
Organization: Twin Sun, Inc
Distribution: ca
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 15:58:09 GMT

the phone number of the california poppy reserve center is
(805) 724-1180
From: andrewst@koh-sun10.usc.edu (Andrew Stern)
Newsgroups: la.general
Subject: Furnished room for rent
Date: 15 Apr 1992 16:10:12 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
Reply-To: andrewst@koh-sun10.usc.edu (Andrew Stern)
NNTP-Posting-Host: koh-sun10.usc.edu



Available starting May 10, 1992

$400/month

In Culver City, at Overland and Jefferson in Tara Hill Condos

With security, pool, jacuzzi, laundry
Kitchen priveleges

Prefer a non-smoker, male

Please call Britt at (310) 839-3621
From: mrichey@orion.oac.uci.edu (Michael S. Richey)
Subject: A Celebration of Earth
Newsgroups: la.general
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 9 Apr 92 23:56:32 GMT




U.C.I.'s   Student Activists For the Environment (S.A.F.E.)

                           and

                          H.E.M.P.

                          present


                 A Celebration of the Earth


with information dissemination by local ecology groups.

Music by:

Dead Center

and

Filthmobile


Plus Special Guests.

Keynote Speaker:  Jack Herer   Author, The Emporer Wears No Clothes

Saturday, April 18th    2:00 PM
UC Irvine Trailer Park
at the corner of Bison and California.


Bring your drums, flutes, guitars, banjos, children, husbands, wives,
mothers, fathers, etc.

---------


The Earth is not dying -- She is being killed and the people who are
killing Her have names and addresses.
Newsgroups: la.general
From: das@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (David Smallberg)
Subject: Re: Car Rallyes
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Distribution: la
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 01:29:52 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.142547.14865@aero.org> foonberg@aero.org writes:
>In article <21128@venera.isi.edu>, jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan) writes:
>|> 
>|> Anyone know when the next Sepulveda dam/valley car rallye is?  I used
>|> to be on the mailing list, but somehow got dropped.
>
>Not to worry; rallyes have been sparse lately, unless I've been dropped from
>the mailing list as well.  Last time there was a rallye - probably back in
>January - the only flyer was for a rallye on 5/30/92.  I don't remember which
>rallye, however.
>

You're both still on the list and will receive the next mailing.  No
rallyemaster has taken any dates past the 5/30 rallye -- everyone's too busy
to write one these days.
-- 

-- David Smallberg, das@cs.ucla.edu, ...!uunet!cs.ucla.edu!das
From: rkou@skat.usc.edu (Roger H. Kou)
Newsgroups: la.general
Subject: I did it!!
Date: 13 Apr 1992 10:34:48 -0700
Organization: USC Computing Services, Los Angeles
Distribution: la
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu


I followed Mike Coleman's advise and was sucessful on using melyvl.
ow, there is a ton of records on "perspectives"!

thank you Mike!

Roger...
From: Mark.Perew@p201.f208.n103.z1.fidonet.org (Mark Perew)
Newsgroups: la.general
Subject: A poppy a day keeps the doctor away
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 11:39:40 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:103/208.201 - Homer, Tustin CA

In a message of <Apr 14 17:25>, Aniekan Akpaffiong (1:103/208) writes: 

 >I need to get out of the city.

 >Finals are about 2 weeks away and, like Billy said, I think this
 >[job] is killing me.  I went to see my bartender last night and
 >she suggested a day out in the dessert.  I could deal with a day
 >out in the dessert watching condors and fields upon fields of
 >wildflowers in full bloom.  Can anyone suggest a suitable location?
 >Somewhere within a few hours of Southern Cal.  I would REALLY
 >appreciate any information you could send my way.

Try St. Andrew's Monastery near Palmdale.  Not exactly what you described but I 
have found it to be very refreshing spiritually, emotionally, and physically.

It is very quite, the monk in charge of the refectory is an excellent cook, and 
the monks maintain a very nice garden.

You don't need to be Catholic to use the facilities.  (I'm not and they let me 
in.)  If you want to stay over night it can be hard to get a guest room on 
short notice (less than 6 months) but sometimes they are available.  They do 
have suggested donations for day use and over night stay but they're very cheap 
and not mandatory.

Good Luck.



--  

Mark Perew
Internet: Mark.Perew@p201.f208.n103.z1.fidonet.org
Compuserve: >internet:Mark.Perew@p201.f208.n103.z1.fidonet.org
From: rkou@skat.usc.edu (Roger H. Kou)
Newsgroups: la.general
Subject: thank you!
Date: 12 Apr 1992 20:59:15 -0700
Organization: USC Computing Services, Los Angeles
Distribution: la
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu


I thank you all for answering my earlier post.

Well, here is what I have. I went to Arcadia Public Library and used their
periodical database(i.e. CD-ROM) to look for articles that have to do
with capitalism + keyword(communism and competiton). I got:

Title: Communitarian vs. Individualistic Capitalism
Authors: Thurow, Lester
Journal: New Perspective Quarterly Vol: 9 Iss: 1 Date: Winter 1992
Abstract: With more countries becoming major economic powers, the US
is no longer calling all the shots. The world economy is in the hands of
serveral nations. Economic competition is no longer between communism
and capitalism; it is between two different forms of capitalism.  The
difference between market economy and social market economy is
discussed.  Illustration. 

Subjects: Economic policy; International
	relations; Capitalism; United States--US; Europe; Japan.
Type Feature
Length: Long (31+col inches)

Arcadia doesn't have it either, although I found lots of data from
Dept. of Commerce and alikes. those numbers are going to help. if you
are looking for government doc., I think it's an okay place to go.  can't
check them out though. Doheny has a lot too. I just didn't see the
ones I need. I didn't know Uncle Sam publish all that number for us.
Man that's A LOT of trees. From speeches to latest White house press
reports. gosh, some poor souls must type them up somehow. >:-D
oh, you can find Arcadia's number and address in, where else, your
friendly white pages, the government section.

I am sorry about giving the wrong journal name. I tried again to use
melvyl, but it asked me for passwd after I select what database I
want.  But now I know USC librarian is able to access melvyl, I will
be paying them a visit, soon. :-) thanks Dave! I think I caught the
guy working at the ref. counter(the counter situated by the USCInfo
Mac stations) in a bad time. He had about five or six guys waiting for
him. So, it's okay, really. I would be just as hurried to get to the
next guy/gal as he had done.

Now that I know the correct name of journal, I think my problem is
half over, I hope. I still hope Doheny has it, if not, ucla. Good
thing w e have a interlibrary loan program, yeah, no traveling.

thanks for all your help,

Roger...
From: rkou@skat.usc.edu (Roger H. Kou)
Newsgroups: la.general
Subject: oh, man
Date: 11 Apr 1992 22:26:55 -0700
Organization: USC Computing Services, Los Angeles
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu


Thanks for everyone for taking time to reply to my question. THANK YOU.

you are right, I can't use melvy to check if ucla has "Perspective Quaterly"
It asked for a passwd, and said melvy is for UC's students 
and staff+faculties' use. :-(

desperate man employees extreme means. I am going to ucla's library to
check if they have it since the guy at Doheny didn't know what the heck
I was talking about(upsetting, but true, he *never* heard of that
periodical before. well, so did I, until now. that's another thing
about library, I guess we sometimes all expect a little bit too much
from them: the librarian and the staff, especially when your paper
worthy as much as 35% of your grade. damn those prof.!! I need another
vacation.) I hope ucla has it. does anyone know?!? would be nice if
someone can e-mail me about it, save me a trip, and most definitely 
parking fees(no flaming, just the truth, same w/'SC, if you don't
have permit). Also, does anyone know ucla's library's hours?
The same guy at Doheny wasn't sure. argh..... kill kill kill kill

thanks,

Roger...
From: mrichey@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Mike Richey)
Subject: Re: A Celebration of Earth
Newsgroups: la.general
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:50:01 GMT

In article <29E4D9B0.11159@noiro.acs.uci.edu> mrichey@orion.oac.uci.edu (Michael S. Richey) writes:
>
>
>
>U.C.I.'s   Student Activists For the Environment (S.A.F.E.)
>
>                           and
>
>                          H.E.M.P.
>
>                          present
>
>
>                 A Celebration of the Earth
>
>
>with information dissemination by local ecology groups.
>
>Music by:
>
>Dead Center
>
>and
>
>Filthmobile
>
>
>Plus Special Guests.
>
>Keynote Speaker:  Jack Herer   Author, The Emporer Wears No Clothes
>
>Saturday, April 18th    2:00 PM
>UC Irvine Trailer Park
>at the corner of Bison and California.
>
>
>Bring your drums, flutes, guitars, banjos, children, husbands, wives,
>mothers, fathers, etc.
>
>---------
>
>
>The Earth is not dying -- She is being killed and the people who are
>killing Her have names and addresses.


Due to an unfortunate event involving violent people causing trouble
and harm to others on April 11th, the residents of the trailer park at
UC Irvine voted to cancel the above event.

However, on Saturday, April 25th, UC Irvine will celebrate Earth Day
starting at 10AM. So, Bring your drums, flutes, guitars, banjos, children,
husbands, wives, mothers, fathers, etc. You will have a wonderful
time. For more information, please call (714) 856-5181.

I apologize for the confusion this has caused.

peace.


Newsgroups: la.general