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From: jadams@vixen.cc.bellcore.com (adams,john)
Subject: Re: HAWAII INTERISLAND FLIGHTS
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 13:52:06 GMT
Summary: Just like buses / subways

In article <92317.143634K3011E8@ALIJKU11.BITNET>, Gerald Aigner <K3011E8@ALIJKU11.BITNET> writes:
> My parents and I are staying in Oahu in February. Because we want to visit
> the other islands Kaui, Maui and Hawaii we are interested in interisland
> flights.
> So my question : How expensive are they?
                       ^^^^ Can't help you here, haven't been there in 3 years.
>                  Can you get a discount or are there special rates for tourists
>                    who want to visit these islands ?
                     ^^^^ Lots of good deals are available from tour operators
		     there!
>                  Where can you book these flights in Honolulu ?
                   Almost anywhere!  Hotels, sourvenier shops, kiosks, etc.
>                  Is it possible to take a flight early in the morning from
>                  Honolulu and returning to Honolulu in the evening ?
                   ^^^^ Yes, see note below
>                  In many travel guides I read that prices are between
>                  30-80$. Why do they vary so much ?
                   ^^^^ Aloha and Hawaiian Air (The two principle carriers have
		   discovered the magic of "yield management" along with their
		   mainland counterparts.

If your schedule is flexible (You don't have to make a connecting flight / other 
engagement), fly stand by!  The flights between the islands are very frequent and 
at most times (non-rush hour...or at least the Hawaiian version of rush hour) are 
lightly loaded.  It's quite easy to make day trips from Honolulu to all the 
other islands,  but why would you want to?  Relax, thats the whole point of 
the Aloha spirit.  By the way, interisland flights are like bus and train service 
on the main land...If you miss this one, hang loose for while and another 
will be leaving shortly!

Mahalo nui loa,
-- 
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From: olsen@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Diane Olsen)
Subject: Seeking Banff hotel (and other) recommendations
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:18:07 GMT

My SO and I are planning to spend the week between Christmas
and New Year's in Banff this year.  Can somebody recommend a
relatively inexpensive hotel?  We will consider anything up
to $100 Canadian per night, but we'd prefer to spend a lot less.
Our travel philosophy is to stay at a cheap place like Motel 6
and save our money for lift tickets and fancy restaurants.

BTW, can anyone tell me if the Banff Springs Hotel is worthwhile?
It looks to be overpriced and overrated, but I'd like to hear 
from people who've stayed there in case my impressions are wrong.
(Normally such a place would be out of our range, but there seem
to be one or two attractively priced packages around.)

Thanks in advance!

--Diane

P.S. -- Restaurant and ski area recommendations also gladly accepted!
(I hope the Grizzly House is still around and still serving 
wonderful fondue dinners!  :-)  )

P.P.S. -- We may have to spend a night in Calgary on our way home.
Is there a nice, cheap place we can stay at or near the airport?

-- 
Diane L. Olsen		"A woman with a mind is fit for all tasks."
olsen@csli.stanford.edu		--Christine de Pizan (c.1363-c.1431)
From: timw@excelsior.math.uh.edu (Tim Wade)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: a little jamaica help please
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:42:36 GMT
Reply-To: timw@excelsior.math.uh.edu (Tim Wade)

can anyone tell me where the best place to stay in jamaica is?
the areas i've heard about are montego bay, negril, and ocho rios.
where are the best beaches? best nightlife? what kinds of
activities are there to do during the day? any specific
recommendations on where to stay? hotels, condos...
please respond by email to timw@wrc.unr.edu
thanks.
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From: fod@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Frank O'Donnell)
Subject: Re: Info on French Guiana???
Keywords: French Guiana 
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 03:52:59 GMT

aramsey@ugly.UVic.CA (Aaron  Ramsey) writes:

>Has anybody here ever been to French Guiana? (It's in South America,
>right beside Brazil) I'm heading there at the end of January, and
>am wondering what to expect... I'll be staying almost a full year
>on a small budget... I hope... I can't find any info on what the
>economy is like there.... all the travel agents I have spoke to
>don't have a clue about Guiana. What I really am wondering of 
>course is how far my money will go when I am living there... are
>things there roughly the same price as in France, or can I expect
>to pick stuff up alot cheaper?
>
>I'd also like to know where the best places are to visit... I'll
>be arriving in Cayenne, but I'm by no means limited to staying there.
>I was hoping that somebody might have some good advice for me..

I spent a week or so in French Guiana this past summer
preparing for a satellite launch, dividing time between
Kourou (the new town adjacent to the launch center) and
Cayenne.

Commercial goods in general are as expensive or more so than
goods in France, as is usually the case with outlying former
colonies, islands, etc.  Some of the locally produced things
are more reasonable.  Among restaurants, some that were classic
French style seemed pretty expensive, whereas you can eat 
quite cheaply in Oriental restaurants.

Besides the towns, I also visited Devil's Island, which is
an interesting boat trip to a nice restaurant and inn.
I also took a canoe trip up one of the rivers into the tropical
forest.  In general I found the "hazards" (weather, mosquitos,
etc, etc) to be much more benign than I expected, but I may
have just arrived at a good time of year.  I was also amply
innoculated (courtesy of my employer, whom I'm sure didn't
want me laid up with yellow fever ;-).

Because it is not a magnet for international tourism, there
were very few English speakers, even at the front desk of
purportedly three-star hotels.  I speak adequate French so
did ok, and ended up doing a lot of interpreting for 
colleagues.  They (Americans who assume language hegemony)
weren't quite as thrilled about being unable to make
themselves understood, however.

On the whole, though, it's fairly sparsely populated.
I ran into a lot of young men associated with the space
center who were fulfilling France's mandatory national
service by working there for a year or two.  Many seemed
very anxious to get make to the Metropole.  On the other
hand I ran into some Americans who were first lured there
by the "Papillon" mystique and ended up taking up
residence in the tropics.

Frank
frank@jplpost.jpl.nasa.gov
From: aodyniec@orion.oac.uci.edu (Alex Odyniec)
Subject: Re: Death Valley National Park - Accomodations
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 8 Nov 92 23:41:00 GMT
Distribution: na

In article <1dcgghINNctt@overload.lbl.gov> palaio@ux1.lbl.gov (Nicholas P Palaio) writes:
>I will be visiting Death Valley the week between Christmas and New Years.
>I was able to get a room for all but one night at the Furnace Creek Ranch.

Gotta tent? Go camping that night. Of all places in the U.S., Death
Valley is probably the best spot for camping in December. For
something like 10 bucks a day, you can camp right on the grounds of
the Furnace Creek Ranch.

>I'd be interested in anyone's impression of the Inn (at $250/night!).  I'd
>be willing to pay for a night of luxury if it's worth it.

Unless you're snobs, it ain't.
Want luxury? Go to Vegas, NOT Death Valley.

>This will be our first stay in Death Valley, so I'd also be interested in
>hearing about some of the fun things people have done there.

Rolled around naked on the sand dunes ;-)
It was a warm day, though :-)

>Thanks,

You're welcome.

Alex Odyniec

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From: jadams@vixen.uucp (22475-adams)
Subject: Re: ::::: NEW YORK STATE :::::
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 15:51:33 GMT
Summary: I LOVE NY

In article <BxKt3F.KFM@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v068mwnn@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Election Day 1992: We FINALLY had the COURAGE to CHANGE!) writes:
> Does anyone know of any great, beautiful, interesting, and INEXPENSIVE
> regions that are worth visiting?  I welcome all information, but I'm
> primarily interested in NON-New York City and NON-Buffalo/Niagara info
> (ie. All of the Empire State EXCEPT those two areas).  I plan on traveling
> over winter break (end/Dec.-early Jan.).

Try calling the New York State Division of Tourism @ 1-800-456-8369
						     1-800-ILO_VENY
Jack (John) Adams			| Bellcore NVC 2Z-220
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From: jadams@vixen.uucp (22475-adams)
Subject: Re: What to see in Baltimore, MD?
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 20:19:31 GMT
Summary: B&O Museum

In article <7693@lib.tmc.edu>, mitchell@oac3.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Philip Mitchell) writes:
> This may seem terribly mundane for all you seasoned world travellers, but I
> am going to be in Baltimore for the first time next week.  I've already 
> heard that the Aquarium is a must-see.  What else is recommended in the
> same vicinity?  

If you're into railroading and history, make sure you visit the Baltimore & Ohio
museum!

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From: IACSAW@ASUACAD.BITNET (Sheila Walters)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Australia: Car advice needed
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:37:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: ASUACAD.92314.153750IACSAW
Organization: Arizona State University

We were in Australia for 5 months in 1987.  I don't know how much
things have changed, but it was definitely cheaper to buy a car and
resell it at the end of the period.  Our car dealer agreed to buy it
back, setting the price in advance--assuming no accidents.  We were
advised by friends in OZ not to buy a car in a city such as Sydney
because we were going to be living in a rural area where the roads
were not as good and the city cars might not come with heavy duty
shocks, roo bars, etc.  We did wait; the only problem we had was
in the smaller town there was not many cars with an automatic
transmission to choose from.
From: jsmit@mikomtek.csir.co.za (Jacques Smit)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Inexpensive accomodation in Washington DC?
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:12:09 GMT
Organization: MIKOMTEK, CSIR
NNTP-Posting-Host: 146.64.42.1

I am looking for reasonably priced (i.e. less that hotel fares) but 
acceptible accomodation for one/two people near the George Washington
University. We intend to be there for 2/3 weeks in January 1993.

Any recommendations? I'd like to know tariffs and an e-mail address / fax 
number / telephone /address where someone can be contacted. Please e-mail
responses.

Thanks
Jacques Smit, South Africa

E-mail address: jsmit@mikomtek.csir.co.za
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From: duck@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Lauriston)
Subject: Re: Alamo Car Rental immoral practices
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: us
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:46:44 GMT


I usually reserve the smallest car available, excluding the teeny 3-cyl.
Geo kiddie car.  More often than not, I end up with a bigger and more
luxurious model, as the agency is just out of the models in the category
I'd reserved.  However, they charge me the rate I'd reserved, not the
higher rate.  Nothing illegal about it, just a fact of life in the
rental car biz.
From: dawsong@qut.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Scotland, Edinburgh - Accommodation
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:51:19 EST
Organization: Queensland University of Technology

       Accommodation in Edinburgh, Scotland.
       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Arriving in Edinburgh by rail from London on Sunday 17
January,  (departing Tuesday morning for York).

I'm seeking information on reasonably priced hotels /
accommodation, hopefully close to the railway station. 

Somewhere nice and warm would be appreciated !

Also interested in readers' opinions in the "must see" and
"must do"  categories.

Thank you in anticipation. 

Graham.


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From: news@bnr.ca (News on crchh327)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: LA - NZ - Calcutta journey - need help.
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:33:24 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx

LA - NZ - Calcutta journey - need help.
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From: akt@photon.com (Andrea Terry)
Subject: Discount Coupon for Continental Airline
Organization: Photon Research Associates, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:51:34 GMT


$50.00 for a coupon worth $25.00 off doesn't sound like a good deal to me.
I have some of these coupons and I'll give them to anyone who can use
them.
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From: elvira@Ingres.COM (Eric Elvira)
Subject: Re: Northwest Puerto Rico -- need ideas 
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company, Alameda CA 94501
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Distribution: ny
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:46:15 GMT

C. Sundaresan (sundare@watson.ibm.com) wrote:
: Going for a 4 day weekend to the Quebradillas area.  We are staying
: in a parador and plan to read a lot of books and relax on the beach.
: Can anyone suggest restaurants or interesting things to do in that
: area of P.R.?  Thanks!
: 
: Chris Sundaresan 

You should go to the Radio-Telescope of Arecibo and Las Cuevas (The Caves)
of Camuy. For both you have to go to Areecibo and take the road to Utuado
(sorry I don't remember the number). Both places have tours of their
facilities.I'm sure they can give you information on how to get there at
the Parador.

Enjoy your visit to La Isla del Encanto (The Isalnd of Enchantment),
Eric

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From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: Proof of US Citizenship--What besides passport?
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 01:40:01 GMT

tflynn@encore.com (Tonya Flynn) wrote: 
->I don't disagree that a passport is more convenient (in most cases)
->but if you have a voter's registration and a driver's license, you
->will not have any trouble getting in or out of the Bahamas or back
->into the US.

sorry, tonya, you will need to qualify this: tonya flynn will have no
trouble travelling between the bahamas and the us with the
documentation you specify.  customs and immigration officials make
different demands of different people based on the profile they may
fit ... if i'm looking more long-haired and less yuppified, i might
expect to get hassled for better id, and the passport is the best
kind.

->P.S.  I don't have a passport and visit the Bahamas about four times
->a year.  I've never had any trouble and we've been boarded by the
->U.S. Coast Guard and the Bahamian Defense Force (the Bahamas
->equivalent of the Coast Guard) on several occasions.

sounds like you're on a yuppie-driven yacht ... 

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
# "fight the real enemy."  -- sinead o'connor, and many others.
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From: jay@trdlnk.uucp (Jay Twery)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Florida vacation /Key west
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:30:46 GMT
Organization: TradeLink Corp.

Bahia Honda State Park (near Marathon) is a must visit. The entire island is
within the park, and it has beaches that stretch most of it's length. Marathon
has many small 50's style Motels along the highway. You can usually negotiate
the rates, if you try.
Have fun!

-Jay
From: donald@dswalker.EBay.Sun.COM (Don Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Carribean Cruise
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:03:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: male.1dm23mINN222
Reply-To: donald@dswalker.EBay.Sun.COM
Distribution: world
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: dswalker.ebay.sun.com


Sorry about the earlier post. How dumb. I would like info on a 
carribean cruise last week of Dec. Price, weather, anything worth
mentioning.

Thanx

Donald

P.S. I will be leaving from california.
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From: coy@guinness.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Coy Correll)
Subject: Re: Bahamas - First trip - HELP!
Organization: Dazix - An Intergraph Company
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:54:13 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.194755.18833@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>, ffloyd@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Flash Floyd) writes:
|> I have "won" a trip to the Bahamas December 27 - 29 and I've never been
|> there.  My wife and I will be staying at the Running Mon Marina Resort
|> Hotel which is described by the promotional company as a "clean and
|> decent" hotel about 8 miles from (and across the marina from) the Princess
|> resort.  Is anyone familiar with this facility or that particular area?

I believe this is in the cable beach area.  It is about 6 miles west of
downtown Nassau.  This is very much a tourist area.  You will have to take
a bus or taxi if you want to see Nassau.  Watch out for these promo-type
deals.  You probably won't get much time to yourself.  They are usually
VERY high-pressure sales deals.

|> 
|> Also, our cruise over the the Bahamas will be on the Starlite Cruise
|> Lines.  Any experience with them?  It is a small ship from what I can tell.

I don't know about them, but there are books out that rate the various
cruise lines.  I suggest you check them out at your local library or book
store.

|> 
|> We've been told that it is difficult and expensive to get around in the
|> Bahamas.  We would welcome any words of wisdom in this area since we would
|> like to see as much as possible without spending a fortune getting there. 
|> Taxis, buses, bikes, rental car?  What do you think?

Don't rent a car!  Traffic in and around Nassau is heavy and driving on
the left side of the road takes some getting used to.  You can get anywhere
by bus ($.75 a trip).  Coral World is good to visit.  The botanical gardens
are also nice to see.  In Nassau, Skan's is a good place for lunch.  It has
good food, and lots of it for a good price.  Specials are $5.50 or less.
The grouper at the Green Shutters Inn is GREAT!  It is also a wonderful
place to hang out and meet local folks.  Bill-a-bong's is a great place
for a drink later in the evening.  Mostly local people and very friendly.
All of these places are within one or two blocks of Bay Street.

|> 
|> Since this will be our first experience with the Bahamas, any other tips
|> or warnings will be greatly appreciated.
|> 
|> Respond via direct e-mail or to group.  Thanks.
|> 
|> Flash Floyd
|> floyd.f@wlu.edu
|> 
|> 

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From: barbara@forit.forut.no (Barbara Wasson)
Subject: Re: Toronto-area trip
Keywords: Toronto
Organization: Norwegian Telecom/FORUT, Norway
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 11:46:41 GMT

    In article <Bx7vBv.Mu2@Novell.COM>, dtokarew@tokafew.Doc.Provo.Novell.COM (Deb Tokarewich) writes:
        
        A colleague and I will be attending a conference held at the University of  
        Waterloo Nov 18-21 and will be staying in nearby Kitchener.
    
    
    
    
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From: pinesoft@netcom.com (Pine Software)
Subject: Travel to Madagascar, Tanzania. 
Keywords: Africa, Madagascar, safari
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:23:52 GMT

I would to travel to Madagascar , has anybody got info 
on travel to that island.  I am looking for reasonable airfares from
the African Contintinent or maybe a boat from the Tanzanian coast?.
Please reply to ramaa@etak.com or post a followup article.
From: puerta@mcs-next-10.stanford.edu (Angel Puerta)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Best Paris Restaurant?
Date: 9 Nov 1992 21:25:10 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Reply-To: puerta@camis.stanford.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: mcs-next-12.stanford.edu

In article <1992Nov9.205408.2396@mercury.unt.edu> jacob@ponder.csci.unt.edu  
(Tom Jacob) writes:
> We are going to Paris in January on an eating expedition and plan to visit
> one top-rated no-expense-barred restaurant.  Where should we go?  Or to put
> the question another way: If you had $100-$200 per person to spend on one
> meal in Paris, where would you go?
> 

My choice: Jamin (Roubachon). Chances to get a reservation if you call today:  
medium. May be closed the first week in January. Also, plan on more like $200  
per person instead of $100.

Absolutely avoid: La Tour D'Argent. The only French you will hear there is from  
the waiters. The place is even included in some pre-packaged tours. But it  
still has the regulation 3 Michelin stars!. Not good for Michelin,  I would  
say.

Other top choices:  Taillevent, Lucas-Carton, L'Ambroisie. Lucas-Carton has  
sometimes the TourD'Argent-syndrome: too many foreign eaters.

Good sources of cheap-but-good eats: Michelin guide. "Cheap Eats in Paris" both  
at your local bookstore. (at least in the Bay Area)

My ultimate suggestion: Try Masa's in San Francisco. Rated consistently as the  
best French Restaurant in the US, many critics say that there is nothing better  
in Paris! Prix-Fix menu $65!! (or the prize of an entree in Paris)
--
Angel Puerta
puerta@camis.stanford.edu
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