Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Re Islamic justice
From: vkuttikattu@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: 12 Apr 92 16:58:14 CST
Reply-To: memom@acsu.buffalo.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Missouri-Kansas City
Summary: moral decay

In article <1992Apr7.054953.18165@acsu.buffalo.edu>, memon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Naveed Siraj Memon) writes:
> From: vkuttikattu@vax1.umkc.edu
> Organization: University of Missouri-Kansas City

> ....Saudi Arabia. I don't disagree about the severity of the punishment
> ..... Yes Kunnath Islamic punishment do carve out our social customs and ...
> .....your opinion to which you are entitled. It sounds like inferences about
> ..... yet to see the moral decay that we see prevalent in the US. It may not
> ........... statistics for rape, incest and adultry.....
> between a moderately Muslim society and the US. I don't say that they do not
> occur and the rights of the accused are indeed violated but the emphasis is
> on the difference and how prevalent these crimes may be in two societies.> 
> Naveed.
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dearNaveed,
I donot see what you mean by the moral decay prevalent in the US.I have 
found people more polite and understanding in the US than in Muslim countries.
I know that the facilities for poor people and handicapped and the aged
have shown me that the people in the US have understood the needs of these
people and their need for independence.I see that in the US there is a
greater understanding for the fact that people are different yet similar
than in any Muslim country.I know that the people in the US dont resent 
the fact that a foriegner comes to this country, and continues to practice
his religion,his philosophy, his customs,speak his language,and actively
discriminates against americans, as much as people in Muslim countries do.
I know that Americans spend more on charity than any other country in the 
world.(I know that muslim countries only give aid to muslim countries).
I know that a person in the US can walk in the streets wearing  clothes of
her choice,he can eat foods of his choice and when he feels like , he can 
change his religion when he feels like, and he can criticize any God he feels 
like,she can have sex with any person who is willing, he can read the "Satanic
Verses" if he finds it interesting.If thats what you call "moral decay" then 
well your are from a different age mister!, you had better  put your mind in a
time machine and catch up with the morals over here or go and live in your 
moral paradise viz:- Saudi Arabia .But remember some of the freedoms over here 
could cost you your life over there.Yes, islamic justice can carve out your
social customs and your neck.   
                                  As for the statistics of rape ,incest,
and adultery, well how much is going on behind the closed doors and comparative
ignorance  and subjugation of women in muslim contries will never be known.
I am an optimist and I believe that people will change as mordern culture
percolates thru education and the media to the people in muslim countries
and they will change their old and cruel customs for more humane and relevant
customs,inshallah! 
             Kunnath Paulose.
P.S.: Hope I don't sound to much like Mahfool Jafry