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From: un040251@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: APOLOGY: WRONG INFO ON BUBBY TRADE
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:26:26 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

In article <1992Apr08.030208.117541@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, amr2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ANTHONY MICHAEL RUTCH) writes:
> Please take note of the following correction:  My reliable source has revealed
> to me that Bubby will not be going to the Colts.  Instead, he is going to the
> Eagles for Jim McMahon and safety Andre Waters.  Expect the deal to be
> completed over the weekend.  Bubby was complaining about not starting in
> Pittsburgh, he'll never see the light of day in Philly.
> -- 
>                TONY, TONY, TONY
>                BROADHEAD 312
>                758-1378

Eagles and Colts.  1 is a consistent winner the other a consistent loser.
How do you get the two mixed up??? Well that's immaterial.  I still think it
would be a sorry trade and the neither team would benfit all that much.  
Pitt can't get a good starter out of the deal cus McMahon gets an injury every
other down, plus I thought that the secondary was the strong point of the
steelers D when they were ranked #1 over-all in D in '90, so why would they
want a S that hits late and dirty to attract fines/suspensions/and flags?
especially since Pitt does not strive for the Bad boy look like Philly does, or
at least  did under Ryan.  Plus Philly gets a back-up that really sux rocks.
Why would you do it if you were either team? I would look for Simms if I were
philly, or maybe steal DeBerg from the Bucs.  If the trade is true, it is a bad
idea and does not benfit the Steelers at all and benefits Philly only a little.

Brian Mulholland
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: schalene@sequent.com
Subject: Re: Marinovich fails drug test
Organization:  Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 14:26:22 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.033230.21735@cas.org> cml69@cas.org (;A/5G) writes:
>
>    I just heard that Todd Marinovich failed yet another drug test.
>
I heard this, too, on this morning's news.  Evidently, it happened
after they lost their last playoff game.  This would probably make it
related to that big party he had where he was arrested for disturbing
the peace and harassing the police.  I heard he had to go to court for
that incident but I never heard the outcome.  Anyone know?
From: dasaxe@milton.u.washington.edu (Daniel Perreault)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: CHIEFS PREVIEW
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:19:26 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Apr6.105054@mccall.com> scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis) writes:
>
>In article <9362@vice.ICO.TEK.COM>, kenb@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Ken Berger) writes:
>>Not with ol' "soaphands" Kreig at quarterback.
>>
>>Expect to see the ball on the turf at Arrowhead a lot this season.
>>
>Not the kind of news Chief fans want to hear.  Plus, someone(debk?)
>stated that Kreig can throw long, but only to the def.  Looks like
>the Chiefs should have kept DeBerg.
>--
>Scott D. Davis <scott@mccall.com>       The McCall Pattern Company
>(uucp: ...!widener!depot!mccall!scott) 615 McCall Road
>(800)255-2762, in Kansas (913)776-4041  Manhattan, KS 66502, USA

You know, of all the  people in the world who could be giving Dave Krieg a
hard time on the net, K.C. fans seem to be the last who should. After all,
it was Dave who hit Skansi in Arrowhead with no time left after evading
Derrick Thomas and sack number 8 to sweep the Chiefs for the first time in
10 years. You can't possibly think that the Seahawks have had a decent
offensive line in the last 3 years, and their are alot of great linebackers
in the AFC West.

Behind a legiatimate offensive line, with a couple good quick recievers
and a major running game Kreig is going to have <10 fumbles, pass for
3000 yards have ~25-30 tds and <20 ints. The Chiefs will probably win the
division and possibly have the best record in the AFC. With the balance
coming in the AFC East and the inconsistency in the Central and the
downturn of some of the AFC West teams, 12-4 could be the best in the
AFC this year, and KC has a great shot at it.


Dan Perreault
dasaxe@u.washington.edu
From: v130pwbq@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: NFL Preview 1992 part 2
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:54:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

NFC East

Philadelphia 13-3 (After going 10-6 without their star player Cunningham,
                   You have to believe that anything less than the Superbowl
                   would be a dissapointment)
Dallas 11-5 (This is definitely the next dynasty. With some help in the
             secondary they should be ready to make a run for the title)
Washington 10-6 (After winning the Superbowl this team will give way,
                 whether they like it or not, to the only two teams that were
                 able to defeat them this past season)
Giants 9-7 ( They'll try to redeam themselves but due to age and having to
             compete with the likes of Dallas, Washington, and Philly it'll
             be a WAR)
Pheonix 3-13 (Being in the best division in the NFL has its drawbacks)

NFC Central

Chicago 11-5 (Ditka will have his team back at the top of this division where
              they've been known to reside)
Detriot  9-7  ( With the likes of Barry Sanders you can't go wrong.  
               Last seasons inspired play, for Utley, will
              be tough to repeat)
Tampa Bay 8-8 ( With new talent via plan-B and Sam as their coach you have
                to believe that Deberg and Wyche can bring this team into
                respectability, especially in what has become the weakest
                division in the NFL)
Minnesota 5-11 ( Due to bad management this team will soon hit the basement.
                 Look for Walker to be traded to possibly the Falcons)       
Green Bay 4-12 

NFC West

Atlanta 11-5 ( With the addition of Drew Hill and Henry Jones, Atlanta is
               one Hershel Walker away from being an extremely dangerous
               Offense. Definitely a Team on the rise)
San Fran 10-6 (Montana will be back. If they're able to make a deal for
               Humphery or Word they should be able to go 13-3 and another
               Superbowl)
New Orleans 8-8 ( a stagnent offense backed by an outstanding Defense will
                  only bring this team into mediocrity and with the return
                  of Joe Montana it won't be as easy)
Rams  3-13 (Bad management has seriously hurt this once superpower)

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From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: S.F. and Raiders.....
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:48:53 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <1992Apr15.212831.24193@aero.org> mas@aero.org (Marcus A.Shaw) writes:
>You refer to "got rid of" when in actuality all they did was place RC
>and RL on Plan-B.  They (being the 49'ers) that they were in a
>rebuilding phase and that the chance of RL and RC leaving the team was
>not that high.  RL had just come off a mediocre season and RC was a
>bit past his prime according to most analyists.  I believe that the
>second fact has borne itself out rather well.

A very good point and one that every 49er fan I know or read on teh net seems
to have missed. The Niners didn't release Lott and Craig, they left them
unprotected with the understanding that they could resign them. Lott and Craig
chose on their own to sign with the Raiders. They were wanted back by the 49ers
and it simply allowed them to protect 2 younger players(although Bubba Paris
WAS protected which was a major blubber oops blunder). It was the players, not
the team that caused the 2 popular players to wind up in LA. Why does everybody
blame the team and absolve Ronnie and Roger of any blame?





Russ Smith
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From: coombes@tcom.stc.co.uk (Philip Coombes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: WLAF Ohio Glory 0-10????
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:38:35 GMT
Reply-To: Philip Coombes <coombes@tcom.stc.co.uk>
Organization: Gated to News by demon.co.uk



Any ideas what the WLAF will do if Ohio follow Raleigh-Durham into 0-10 
obscurity ????

Stan,

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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: BUBBY BRISTER RUMORED TO BE TRADED
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:36:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Apr7.103615.5279
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin - Madison
Originator: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu

In article <1992Apr05.215859.8255@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> amr2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ANTHONY MICHAEL RUTCH) writes:
>The Brown and White out of Bethlehem reported in their weekly sports column
>that Bubby Brister will be traded sometime this week for Jeff George and wide
>receiver Billy Brooks.  Anyone else hear of this?
>-- 
>               TONY, TONY, TONY
>               BROADHEAD 312
>               758-1378

You must be kidding.  Jeff George alone is worth more than Bubby Brister,
so why the hell would they throw in another player?  I think that the Colts
have staked their future on George, so unless a real sweet deal came along,
there's no way he would be traded.  I just have a hard time believing this.
Any Indy residents know anything about this?
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: klund@chipotle.gac.edu (Kevin T Lund)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: BUBBY BRISTER RUMORED TO BE TRADED
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:34:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: gacvx2.1992Apr8.213457.722
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Apr8.121816.11563@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>  writes:
> In article <1992Apr7.191909.1994@cbnews.cb.att.com>,  
cfh@cbnews.cb.att.com (chuck.himmelspach) writes:
> > In article <1992Apr05.215859.8255@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>,  
amr2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ANTHONY MICHAEL RUTCH) writes:
> > > The Brown and White out of Bethlehem reported in their weekly sports  
column
> > > that Bubby Brister will be traded sometime this week for Jeff George  
and wide
> > > receiver Billy Brooks.  Anyone else hear of this?
> > > -- 
> > >                TONY, TONY, TONY
> > >                BROADHEAD 312
> > >                758-1378
> > 
> > They must mean Phyllis George. Bubby can't have that kind of trade  
value.
> > 
> Maybe it was Phyllis George for Bubby's sister???
> 
I don't think so, I hear Bubby's sister has a better arm than Bubby, so it  
might be Phyllis George and George Bush for Bubby AND his sister.
Hmm.
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From: mas@aero.org (Marcus A.Shaw)
Subject: Surprise ESPN rumor...
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Distribution: na,local
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 15:02:53 GMT


On the 11:30 EST edition of SportsCenter, the gang reported that the
Miami Herald had a story linking the Fish and Indy's First Pick in the
draft this year.  Miami had supposedly offered the astronomical price
of 2 #1's this year (I'm not sure which, something like #7 & #12 or
so?) and Indy had TURNED THEM DOWN?????  ESPN reported that the price
for the #1 #1 is now at 2 #1's, a pro bowl player, and a second player
of middling value.  Is this tough to believe or what?  And Chris
Mortensen and Kiper believe that Indy will get their price from
someone before this is all over.... *wow*.

The story went on to say that the Herrings would draft Steve
whatsisname outouf Washington since they have falled head over heals
in love with him...  I don't know, but this makes the rumor about a #1
and a #2 for the overall #4 pick (Dallas and Cinn.) look an awful lot
better.  So, if we combine all the rumors, we get

1) Miami thru Indy for 2 #1's, a Pro Bowler, and ??Sammie Smith??
    -- Steve Entman, Washington, DT

2) Indy thru Tampa Bay for the now traded Chris Chandler
    -- Desmond Howard or Q. Coryatt

3) Washington thru LA Rams
   -- Troy Vincent, CB

4) Dallas thru Cinn. for the #13 and a #2 pick
   -- Terrell Buckley, CB (and showboat...)

Has anyone ever seen that kind of trading in the first round...?
Now, not all of it will fly, but if it does, the morning paper on
Monday won't hold it...

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From: amr2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ANTHONY MICHAEL RUTCH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: BUBBY BRISTER RUMORED TO BE TRADED
Date: 5 Apr 92 21:58:59 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

The Brown and White out of Bethlehem reported in their weekly sports column
that Bubby Brister will be traded sometime this week for Jeff George and wide
receiver Billy Brooks.  Anyone else hear of this?
-- 
               TONY, TONY, TONY
               BROADHEAD 312
               758-1378
From: un040251@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Colts want both pix! Howard and Emtman!
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:03:39 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

In the USA Today, an article mentioned that Colts GM Jim Irsay intends
to pick Emtman then Howard with his first two picks and has NO intention
of trading them.  He implied that the only way they would not take Desmond and
Emtman is if 1 of the 2 suddenly becomes unnavailable because "you never
know for sure".  I think the Emtman thing is a good idea but is WR really a
good choice?  The Colts are SO weak on the line of scrimmage on both sides,
and are currently weak in RB since Dickie collapsed and Bentley was injured
(and I do not think he was terribly impressive to begin with) so apparently
they are keeping Vaughn Dunbar as an option, Sean Gilbert, and a couple others.
reports say that the Rams were interested in a deal for the #1 pick to get
Emtman, and I personally would take it!  Not cheap though!  The Colts are
in a position to make a move and they could rob the Rams blind by getting
a couple picks and players out of them to up their talent level fast.

The Washington Redskins were also named in  the article as being interested
in a trade, but I have faith that Casserly will not sell the farm like the
desperate rams will.
Brian Mulholland
From: easchwei@eos.ncsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 3rd time lucky for Bills?
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:42:18 GMT
Organization: Project EOS - North Carolina State University

I meant to say:

"Kelso is NOT the best FS in the NFL.  Kelso is not Jack Tatum.
Kelso is not Andre Waters.  Kelso is not an assassin."

Got it now?

The double helmet thing is totally unrelated to what you were
relating it to.  Player X with double helmet does not imply
dirty, cheap shot artist nor vice versa.  This is reality.
From: jawiles@eos.ncsu.edu (JERRY ALLEN WILES)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Ditch Valvano
Keywords: and ABC would like to welcome ...
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:58:29 GMT
Reply-To: jawiles@eos.ncsu.edu (JERRY ALLEN WILES)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Project EOS - North Carolina State University


     I don't know about you people in net-land, but when ABC telecast the 
WLAF game Sunday between NY/NJ and Orlando and introduced the new member of 
their broadcast team JIM VALVANO, I damn near changed the channel right then
and there!! At halftime, I DID!! 

     I have to question the sanity of ABC's sports personnel for selecting 
Valvano, a former professional (That's the way he ran it, folks!!) basketball
coach, to do sideline work for football broadcasting!! Besides being the 
overly-loud, obnoxious broadcaster he is, he does not know ANYTHING about the
game!! I personally found his commentary surprisingly bland and uninsightful.
Heck, I could have told the ABC audience that the starting quarterback for the
Knights was injured, and that Mitchell was an NFL-enhancement QB from Miami,
etc. ABC really goofed with this move!!

     However, ABC could do something about this -- they could pick their own 
NFL enhancement ANNOUNCER! (Gifford and Dierdorf could certainly benefit :-)
Valvano is a  *rediculous* choice for the broadcast job - even if he is
confined
to the sidelines !!  

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From: easchwei@eos.ncsu.edu (ERIC ARNOLD SCHWEITZ)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: No interest on Jerry Rice -- surprise??
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:10:02 GMT
Organization: NCSU Project Eos

In article <69599@ut-emx.uucp> milton@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Milton W. Kuo) writes:
>In article <1992Mar30.222532.18409@athena.mit.edu> zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor Aazizam Mohd Aasif) writes:
>
>>	Three months have gone by, and Jerry Rice is still without a
>>contract.  I don't know whether 49ers and Rice are talking, but there
>>is no interest whatsoever from other teams WRT Rice.  This is rather
>>surprising because Rice is still in his prime, and I believe that he
>>is one of the best offensive players in the game now and certainly
>>worths 2 #1 picks.  Apparently, other NFL teams do not think so!!
>
>     If I were another team, I wouldn't even bother  trying to get Jerry
>Rice simply because I know San Francisco isn't going to let him go.  Why
>waste time on a  fruitless endeavor?   Anyway, the 49ers have  some good
>quarterbacks so they need great receivers like Rice.

I dunno.  Why not offer Rice a huge salary, but just big enough that
you know Eddie D. will match it?  Jerry will make more money, making him
happy, you don't lose anything and Eddie wallet is thinned a little.
Afterall, if you have any def. players on plan B, chances are Eddie
is trying to sign them out from under you.  Do onto others!

I've never understood why other clubs keep a "don't screw with SF"
mentality.  Seems like Al Davis is the only owner in the NFL that
isn't terrified of Eddie D.  Maybe this has something to do with 
that Oakland/L.A. thing?


>     If the 49ers let Rice go, then they've truly lost all their marbles
>(I still can't believe they let Ronnie Lott go).
>
>-- 
>Milton W. Kuo
>milton@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
From: joel@cs.utexas.edu (Joel Daniel Just)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Cowboys
Date: 15 Apr 1992 23:21:17 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: langtry.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Apr15.182034.19158@leland.Stanford.EDU> blokhead@leland.Stanford.EDU (Darren Pakying Lum) writes:
>
>Its been mighty quiet out there on the Cowboys front!  
>Any news, draft predictions, opinions out there?


Well, I heard that the Cowboys traded their head coach Jimmy Johnson to
Detroit, where he will resume his playing career at tight end.

(-:


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From: merrill@scivax.stsci.edu
Subject: Re: NFL Preview from G-Man
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 20:01:05 GMT

In article <1992Apr2.161334.2567@vax1.umkc.edu>, jroberts@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
> 
> NFC East
> ========
  Washington	13-3  
                      !my own guess!
> Philadelphia	12-4
> Dallas		11-5
> Washington	 9-7
  ^^^^^^^^^^
> New York	 8-8
> Phoenix	  	6-10
> 
> Washington's offensive line is getting old, and Rypien will find
> out what it's like to have a mediocre season--again.  

If the Redskins do repeat, it will be a shock to everyine who reads
this newsgroup!  By the way if they fall back to the the level of their
previous year they will be 10-6.  I think they will do better than that!
Also any of this talk about people gunning for them more is a bunch of 
bull.  After about the 7th game last year everyone wanted to be the first
to give them a loss!  Congrats to the Cowboys on a fine game!  That was the 
only game they lost last year that had ANY meaning.

But that is my own opinion and there is nothing you can do to change it,
just like there is nothing that I can probably say to change your opinion
on what will happen to your favorite team next year.  

By the way, I noticed that there are not very many teams with losing 
records in the predictions.  If you add up all of the records in your 
post the NFL comes out with a 252-196 record.  Who else are they playing? :-)

Clark B. Merrill                        A Life Long Redskins Fan!
Space Telescope Science Institute
Baltimore, Maryland
merrill@stsci.edu
From: elambert@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Eber Lambert)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Complete RAIDER plan B list
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:28:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: qualcom.elambert.702581330
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA


Heres the complete Raider plan B picture as of 4/4/92:


Acquisitions:

Mike Alexander  wr    Buffalo     ( cant beat em draft em)

Anthony Bell   LB    Detroit      (need them LBs)

Ron Brown     wr     Rams          (again?)

Audray Bruce   LB     Atlanta        (could be great...)

Bernard Ellison  db   KC

David Jones	wr	San Diego     (a complete unknown even in SD)

Falaniko Noga	de	Detroit   (I like the name but can he kill??)

Sam Seale	db	San Diego	(I always like Sam ... Al and
					   Ort signed him at midnight and
					   stole hime from the Bengals)
Dave Waymer	db	SF

{lots of secondary... thats good!!}



Losses:

Jamie Holland  	wr	to Cleveland  (Bummer I liked Holland)

Mike Dyal 	te	to KC (never came back last year... Horton is
				     better)

Tauhan Lewis	cb	to KC

Roger Craig	rb	Minnehaha   (Fuckin Niners have no honor)

Roy Hart	nt	Jets

Derrick Crudup	db	SF


Ghosts of Raiders past:

Rusty Hilger QB signed with Flores in Seattle.


-  Plata Y Negro
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Subject: Montana
From: correa@vax.sonoma.edu
Date: 16 Apr 92 12:28:25 -0800
Organization: Sonoma State University

	

	What's all this talk about Joe Montana returning to old form. Joe
Montana will never be the same again,I'm not saying he wont be able 
to start and perform adequetly.But really, after all the surgery he's had
he is not the old Joe. 

	Wait till he takes a snap and "Bruce and tha Bills" come 
hunting for #16, if Joe Montana is still up to par then we can talk 
about how Joe Montana is back to old form.

	All I know is that when the Niners play the men in Silver and 
Black they better sneek in a couple of extra blokcers cause somebody 
is gonna be looking for #16.



Silver & Black
2-0 vs.  "Fifi and the girls"

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