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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 22:30:25 EST
From: Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Young Indy Cancelled
 <92326.175133GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu> <92326.183043EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu>

In article <92326.183043EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu>, Young Indy <EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu>
says:
>
>    Big yawners? Wow. I guess there just isn't an appreciation for a good
>production or writing without CONSTANT mindless action and/or violence. I
>think too many people were looking for prequel equal to the movies, when in
>fact, Lucas wanted to take Indy to a new level. And from the looks of it,
>most people didn't have the intelligence to achieve this appreciation.
>    TV programs that make you think. Wow, who'd have thought. Well from the
>looks of it, your average shmoe didn't. I, along with Lucas, agree that this
>was the first Lucas project since Raiders that really was fun. HOPEFULLY this
>project emotion carries over to the next Star Wars trilogy.

I totally agree.  I looked forward to Mondays when the YIJC was on.  I enjoyed
the historical backgrounds and the neat adventures.  They were dooe pretty
well, and I'm going to miss them.  First, RotJ and now this.  Lucas is making
me more and more disappointed.

>   If 'Jedi' is any indication of how the next trilogy is gonna be, I'll
>definately see it, but I won't be happy. I think if Marquand doesn't direct
>it, we won't have this problem.

No problem...Marquand is dead.  Unfortunately, there's plenty of lame people
in Hollywood they can pick from.  If the next trilogy is like RotJ, I'll
throw away my LBX VHS tapes, and my Star Wars weekly strips hardbound books.
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 13:16:27 -0500 
From: Robert Alan Danforth <rd2b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re:Penis prices

>  $15 for one penis card is ridiculous.  Those cards were printed in
>big sheets, with all 66 different cards of the series on a sheet.
>Therefore THERE ARE THE SAME NUMBER OF PENIS CARDS IN EXISTENCE AS
>THERE ARE ANY OTHER "TWO-STAR" CARDS.  The only reason the price is
>high is because everybody wants to keep theirs; i.e. nobody is willing
>to sell it; or something like that (I opted out of taking Economics
>:-).  So, perspective buyers, keep this in mind.

I was under the impression that actually very few of these cards were
printed...
Think about it... there should be all together the same number of card 207
as there are any other card.  But only a few of card 207 had the penis on it.
So doesn't this mean that the card is actually quite rare, relative to
the other
two-star cards?

- Robert Danforth
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From: mears@cup.hp.com (David Mears)
Subject: Re: Young Indy Cancelled
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:09:21 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
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According to the latest information that I heard (on the radio this
morning, as a matter of fact), YIJC will return to broadcast TV in
January on Saturday nights.  I can't attest to its being cancelled,
but all remaining episodes will be shown.  I suppose if the ratings
get better (not very likely on a Saturday night), then it could be
`uncancelled.'

David B. Mears
Hewlett-Packard
Cupertino CA
mears@cup.hp.com
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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: X-Wing simulator demo (where can I get it)
Date: 18 Nov 92 07:43:37
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
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In-reply-to: jedi@iesd.auc.dk's message of 18 Nov 92 10:14:52

>>>>> On 18 Nov 92 10:14:52, jedi@iesd.auc.dk (Allan Bo Joergensen) said:

jedi> Recently I saw a posting on this group saying that a lot of
jedi> GIF's were available from the StarWars archive at wpi.wpi.edu.
jedi> It turns out that a lot of them are actually screenshots from a
jedi> demo of the forthcoming LucasFilm game 'X-Wing simulator'. I
jedi> also have seen some talk about it recently different places and
jedi> now I want to see for myself. So, how do I get hold of it ?

Do you mean the demo? If so that is also on wpi.wpi.edu in the main
directory. The file is xwngslds.zip But the demo is only a slide show
of the pictures which are in the gif directory. It's not a working
demo.
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From: Simon.N.Smith@cm.cf.ac.uk (Simon N Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Super StarWars
Date: 19 Nov 92 15:52:14 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff, Cardiff, WALES, UK.

Joshua Jacob Prinsky writes:
|> Does any one no when Super Star Wars will be releases for super
|> nintendo?  I read a few previews and it looked great.  They had a death
|> star trench scene that looked as exciting as the original Arcade game,
|> but with a lot better graphics.

Does anyone know if LucasFilm have some kind of exclusive contract with
Nintendo?  The reason I ask is because I'm hoping the same game will
appear for the Sega Megadrive - someone put me out of my misery!!

Sy

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From: phoenix.Princeton.EDU!carlosn (Carlos G. Niederstrasser)
Subject: Re: Missing scenes cut from Star Wars (Biggs at the DS)
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:28:48 GMT

In article <alix.721876590@pv7b89.vincent.iastate.edu> alix@iastate.edu (L.A.  
Melloy) writes:
> In <1992Nov10.230609.3468@reed.edu> odlin@reed.edu (Iain Odlin) writes:
> 
> >In article <1992Nov10.122713.1@uwovax.uwo.ca> 4224_5201@uwovax.uwo.ca (Dark  
Lord of the Sith) writes:
> >>     These pictures are live-action photos taken from the movie but put on 
> >>the cutting floor when the final editing was done. Doubtless this  
contributed
> >>to Biggs' status as a second string character in the film. Biggs name is 
> >>mentioned only once (by Uncle Owen) in the entire film and is not even seen
> >>until the Luke spots Biggs during the Death Star battle preparation scene.
> 
> >  Corrections:  (1) Uncle Owen doesn't mention Biggs, Luke does.  "That's  
what
> >  you said when Biggs left..." (2) Biggs' name is spoken by Luke at least  
once
> >  more during the Death Star battle sequence.
> 
> The scene at the Death Star is when Luke picks up a tie fighter on his tail
> (pointed out by Wedge).  While Luke is trying to evade it, he says under his
> breath "Dammit, Biggs, where are you?"  Biggs IS seen in the movie; he is
> the third pilot (along with Wedge and Luke) in the "valley" (I can't remember
> the technical name) where the reactor shaft opening was.  The one with the
> moustache (if that's any help).

Also I think in the book after Biggs X-Wing is destroyed by Vader luke  
says/thinks something like "We are just a pair of shooting stars..."

Anyone else remember this?
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From: GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Dark Horse Dark Empire - Questions
Date: 16 Nov 92 00:46:35 GMT
 <1992Nov14.130335.3575@pro-freedom.cts.com>
Organization: Penn State University

Mike Richardson, publisher of Dark Horse, talked about the future of Star Wars
comics in the Nov. issue of Previews in an interview.  He definitely said that
they are talking to Tom Veitch and cam Kennedy about the seque.l to Dark Empire
.  He also mentioned that they may produce A graphich story album like they did
 with Aliens : Tribes.  This would be done in prose but with numerous j
accompanying full-page painted illustrations.  I think at one point in the Dark
 Empire letters page, they mentioned that Veitch would do some short stories fo
r the Dark Horse Comics anthology entitled Tales of YThe Jedi.
There has also been many articles floating around several magazines that Topps
is producing a brand new 200 card Star Wars Commemorative set for early 1993.
It will not reprint any previous SW card material but will feature nrew stuff s
uch as production designs and brand new paintings of Star Wars characters by Jo
e Jusko.
Phew!!!Ok so they were unabashed plugs but we need 'em!
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From: sdt8s@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Steve Tilson is not)
Subject: Re: New Star Wars actor.
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:25:02 GMT

keith@cco.caltech.edu  writes:
> 
> 
> There were NO children in the Star Wars movies thus far, so I don't expect
> any in the future either (or course, Caulkin could've played an Ewok kid
> or something).  Besides, Caulkin will soon be of the age where actors
> shouldn't be seen... remember what happened to Ricky Schroeder?
> 
> 

Some of us would say he's already reached that point.

The local six-plex has THREE SCREENS for Home Alone 2. 

AAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHGHGHGHHHH!!!!!!!!

Steve
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Subject: Re: STAR WARS MUSIC
From: ttullio@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 16 Nov 92 12:32:17 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <12NOV92162533@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu>, dkemper@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu (David Kemper) writes:
>
> Actually the full Star Wars soundtrack is about 75 minutes long.  Since I 
> own two 76-minute CDs and know that 80-minute ones exist, it's fairly 
> obvious that the SW soundtrack COULD fit on one CD.  Why isn't it?  The two 
> possible reasons I've come up with: (a) there is some loss in sound quality 
> when putting that much music on one disc, or (b) the record company is 
> greedy and wanted the extra money from selling 2 CDs.  (This seems either 
> unlikely or downright stupid, since they're probably losing as much to the 
> people (like me) who refuse to pay for 2 CDs when it could fit on one.)
> 
> --Gallandro
> 

You own two 76-minute CDs?!?
I've always (ALWAYS) heard that the maximum length of a CD recording was 
73min and some odd seconds.  (The story being that Sony folk decided on this
figure so that some particular Beethoven symphony would be able to fit!)
This is news to me, if true.  (I'm not questioning your honesty, I'm just
dumbfounded!)

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From: dkemper@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu (David Kemper)
Subject: Re: LUKE & LEIA
Organization: University of Administrative Incompetence
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:07:25 GMT
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In article <1erbtnINNquj@aludra.usc.edu>, joshuali@aludra.usc.edu (Joshua Ling) writes...
>In article <SS.92Nov23140226@wpi.WPI.EDU> ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) writes:
>>
>>Sorry but i'm right. In "From Star Wars to Jedi", Lucas himself in an
>>interview says, that during the light saber battle at the end of Jedi,
>>he couldn't think of anything good enogh that would get Luke mad
>>enough to attack Vader. That was when he came up with Leia to be
>>Luke's sister. When Vader say he will turn Leia to the dark side, is
>>when he looses it. Watch "From Star Wars to Jedi" some time.....
> 
>I'm not so sure about that. When I watch From STAR WARS to JEDI I always
>understand that Lucas is saying that he needed something to tick Luke
>off so he had Vader mention Leia. I didn't think that Lucas AT THAT POINT
>came up with the idea. The way I understood it was that Leia was already
>written in to be the "other" and when it came to the Saber duel, it 
>just fit in as a good way to send Luke over the edge.
>Personally, I think that the idea was there all along, maybe not in its
>entirety but definitely as an image.

This is the way I think Lucas' statement was intended.  As far as Yoda's 
mention of the "other" in ESB, it obviously referred to Leia (since they 
managed to comminicate telepathically), but that doesn't mean Lucas had 
decided to make her his sister at that point, merely that she had some kind 
of Force sensitivity.

--Gallandro

    "Take it easy, kid.  It's only a movie."   --Ham Salad, "Hardware Wars"
From: odlin@reed.edu (Iain Odlin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Dark Lord of Sith
Date: 18 Nov 92 06:11:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Nov18.061115.21223
Organization: The Stuffed Animal Trauma Team  (We're Trained Professionals)


  I find it very amusing that, in Gaelic, "Sith" means "Peace".
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From:  ()
Subject: Re: AT-AT's (Was: Re: Luke's lightsaber)
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:50:36 GMT


In article <By3tD4.1Cz@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, pwg25888@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
(Patrick W. Grady) wrote:
> 
> flowerpt@coos.dartmouth.edu (Bill McGonigle) writes:
> 
> >In article <1992Nov18.145109.29975@cs.mun.ca> craig@odie.cs.mun.ca (Craig Coffin) writes:
> >>Re: Armor on AT-AT's
> 
> >>>stuff deleted<<<
> 
> >I still think that the AT-AT's are protected by a field.  Why would one
> >assume that the speeders flying around the AT-AT's and the X,Y,A-Wings,
> >TIE-fighters, etc. have non-physical shielding, but that AT-AT's have
> >only metal armor?  Doesn't make sense.
> 
> >When the AT-AT fell, the impact must have damaged the shield system so
> >then the snowspeeder pilot, seeing this, went in and took 'em out.
> >That would also explain why the shots from the snowspeeders didn't even
> >nick the surface, which should happen if the armor is just physical and
> >really thick.  The AT-AT's are so huge, they can be basically walking
> >cannons and shields.  Quite an effective weapon, really, if you can
> >generate enough power.
> 
> >-Bill
> 
> 	Question.  Ever noticed in many SF books and movies that Flying
> craft were protected by shielding of some sort, but land based vehicles
> were just limited to the armor taht it carries.  Maybe the shields are
> affected in some way by contact with the ground, or the type of shield
> needed to be carried if that is the case dont fit in the space on board.
> The shield generators in TESB for the rebel base do make it seem reasonable
> that shields could be placed on ground vehicles though.  Who know the answe..
> The ATAT's may have been shieldless because of budget constraints in
> the construction contracts.  Remember, aircraft are expensive, the sheilds
> may be there to protect the pilots, space is a harsh place, get all of the 
> edge you can to survive.  There is no place to pull over and get out and
> change the tires in space.
> 
> 	Patrick
> 	---
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> 	Star Wars on the big screen. An experience to have again.
> 
>  
> 
>  
If you read some of the novels you will find that it mentions that shields
are ineffective within the atmosphere.

	In response to the question of how easy it was to blow up the AT-AT after
it fell over its because the one weak point of the AT-AT was revealed. The
neck-Chasis of the AT-AT is a weak point if it is hit the AT-AT will be
destroyed.

																																			A local Star Wars Guru
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Subject: Return of the pissant figures(Volume 53)
From: petra@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 17 Nov 92 11:57:11 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University

How about an R5-D4 with a pop out motivater.

Later, 
Donavan
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From: prauda@dol-guldur.hut.fi (Kristiina Prauda)
Subject: Re: More questions for StarWars fans
Organization: Helsinki University, Finland
	<1eeddjINN9h4@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:44:20 GMT



>From: sally@remarque.berkeley.edu (S. A. Wilson)

Huh? What? Where? I missed the beginning of this thread...

>I don't know but if I were Leia I sure wouldn't want to drop off
>Han and continue on with just Luke and C3PO and R2D2. I mean, Han
>was a major catch. 

*If* you were Leia - but you aren't. Your preferences have nothing to
do with it (not that mine have, either, but I still will not let this
pass as the only opinion...). And what do you mean Han was a "major
catch"??? Because he was the stereotypical untameable man with a past?
Because he was Harrison Ford? And what IS so great about Mr. Ford
anyway?

I myself found the character of Han obnoxious, irritating, stereotypical
(okay, so they all were stereotypes, but Han was a stupid one) and not
at all appealing. And I found the appearance of Harrison Ford as Han
about as unattractive as the personality of the character. I have never
been able to see why he is considered one of the sexiest men in the
world...

>I'd do everything possible to keep him around.

*You* would. I still do not see why, unless for his usefulness as a
pilot. The guy was as old a cliche as can possibly be - the mysterious
man to show the little sheltered princess the wonders of the big
world out there... 

Excuse me, I need to go and throw up. 

>;-).....Otherwise she would have been stuck with Luke, and as we
>found out, things would have been rather sticky when the truth
>came out ;-).........

It seems *very* clear to me that the idea of Luke and Leia being 
brother and sister was Lucas's wimpy solution for the triangle drama
- the princess was given to the bad boy, and the nice boy was given
a nice part as her brother. Without Han, the whole mess (which was
just too incredible anyway) would not have been needed. 

And so it seems also that even Lucas succumbed to the general idea that 
Nice Guys (tm by alt.romance, I think :-)) are boring, and that women
always go for the handsome jerks. Which is not true in the least, by
the way. 

Besides, I found Luke both interesting as a character and handsome. 
(Well, okay, I read the novelizations of the first movies before 
seeing them, and I admit someone else than Hamill *might* have fit
the physical image better... but he was all right. He fit the feel of 
the part perfectly.)

If *I* had been Leia, I would not have thought twice to kick Han to
he** out of my life and have the best life in the Universe with Luke.

And, anyway, what's a pirate pilot against the last and first of
the Jedi?


Sorry, but you touched an old sore point there, and it's been festering
all these months that I have been reading this group...


Kristiina


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From: joshuali@aludra.usc.edu (Joshua Ling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Zahn, Flint and LetterBox Info
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:03:58 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <CFORTIER.92Nov16084507@genghis.news> cfortier@genghis.news (Chris Fortier) writes:
>
>Basically, there are extra scenes that were not present in the P&S format and
>there are enhancements to existing scenes, afforded by the LetterBox format.

And what pray tell are these "extra scenes".

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From: kesslerm@columbia.dsu.edu (MICHAEL KESSLER)
Subject: Collectibles Prices wanted
Organization: Dakota State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:31:48 GMT

	I was wondering if any of you had the new price guide for Star Wars 
Collectibles.  If so what is the name & author of it.  I would like to get 
some quotes on some of the items that I have.
	thanks,
Mike K.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 19:09:33 EST
From: <GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Young Indy Cancelled
 <92326.175133GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu> <92326.183043EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu>

These programs (at least the ones I viewed) were NOT written with intelligence.
Lucas's srieie,though limited from the outset, weren't as bad as the finished p
project.  I can remember watching the first episode and counting line after
line of cliched dialogue.I suppose Lucas would have to take responsibility    f
or those contrived "historical figure guest appearances" though.  I certainly
hope you don't think of Lucas's pair of trilogies as the "mindless action" you
refer to in your post.  Lucas has produced this sort of garbage before (e.g.
Howard the (lame) Duck) but the Star Wars and Indiana Jones movies are *not*
it!
                                          ------Eric Sansoni
From: jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: The Next SW Film will not be out soon!!!
Date: 23 Nov 1992 15:50:52 GMT
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In article <1ep9ulINNcib@aludra.usc.edu> joshuali@usc.edu (Joshua Ling) writes:

>Also, just an experiment...
>Does anyone know what Speilberg's next film will be? I'm talking AFTER
>Jurassic Park. I just wanna see how fast news gets around and how well
>informed people are...

	I think it's Mr. Magoo, isn't it?

						-Jay