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From: tlahdeoj@lesti.hut.fi (Tuomas L{hdeoja)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: Comment on MH
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:10:06 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

In <1993Jan11.223348.14669@mtu.edu> cmwolf@mtu.edu (christopher m. wolf) writes:

>ag173@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Hitesman) writes:
>>
>>(I hope this hasn't alredy been discussed but I jst found this goup)
>>
>>IMHO it's verry possible that DA will write another book in the Hitchiker
>>series.  If you look the continuig reason that the earth keeps coming back
>>is because one or moor if it's inhabitants is still around.  At the end of
>>the book it seems everyone is gone.  Except of course for Elvis.  He's
>>still sitting in his restraunt!  Leaving the whole thing wide open for
>>another book.  Unfortunatly I'd rather see a new Dirk Gently book without
>>all that confusing space travel and just safe insane mucking about in time.

>From what I remember, the whole idea behind the Mk II was to destroy the
>earth in all plural universes.  That kinda ends the series.


Jep, end of Earth in the series, at least. But FP and AD are in quite a lot
of different places in parallel universes/probabilities/WSOGMM. So the
series will (probably) continue sometime.

Another thing is that should it continue... I laughed a LOT less when
reading MH than reading HHGTG (part one) or RATEOTU. The books seem to
get less and less fun as the concept trilogy  is expanded. MH has a few
brilliant ideas/jokes, but only a few. DA seems to be losing the egde,
but who wouldn't after writing 4 of guite mirthful books.

/tube, studying physics 

PS. One my friend, studying maths, took it seriously when I wrote in our
local news about diffrent probability axises and changing our frame of
reference in respect to probability. So much of mathemathicians and
physics ;-)
-- 
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             So long and thanks for all the typos !!!!
Tuomas L{hdeoja /  tlahdeoj@vipunen.hut.fi  / Korkeavuorenkatu 24 a 9 00130 Hki
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From: dcartled@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Lesther)
Subject: Re: First Editions 
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:39:55 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.201429.23628@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> tipset@stkitts.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Scott Temple) writes:
>I am looking for First Editions of the first two books - HHGG & Restaurant.  
>I have copies of the last three (including a signed copy of So long...).
>I am willing to pay a fair and negotiated price.  Newer first editions like
>this go for at least the jacket cover price.  I am looking to spend $25 to
>$35 a book to finish out my collection.  But they must be first editions and
>they must be in good shape (including the jacket covers). 

I don't know about the USA, but I can only assume you are interested in
first editions, period, and these two books were published in the UK
market before they were published here, anyway.  I think you will find
that the first two books, when first published, were published as Pan
paperbacks, not as hardcover.  At least, that is the way it was in the
British / Australian market.  That reduces your chances of finding
copies in good condition right there.  But I wish you luck anyhow.

Regards,

David Cartledge

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From: tipset@stkitts.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Scott Temple)
Subject: First Editions 
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 20:14:29 GMT

I am looking for First Editions of the first two books - HHGG & Restaurant.  
I have copies of the last three (including a signed copy of So long...).
I am willing to pay a fair and negotiated price.  Newer first editions like
this go for at least the jacket cover price.  I am looking to spend $25 to
$35 a book to finish out my collection.  But they must be first editions and
they must be in good shape (including the jacket covers). 

I can be contacted at tipset@cc.bellcore.com or at my home number of
908-873-0633 (New Jersey).  West Coasters can leave me a voice mail on
510-823-3135 (SF Bay Area number).

As an FYI, the Strand Bookstore in NYC also has an autographed So Long.. for
sale.

Scott Temple
908-873-0633 NJ Home
908-699-7328 Work
510-823-3135 California


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From: ag173@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Hitesman)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Comment on MH
Date: 11 Jan 93 20:33:41 GMT
Reply-To: ag173@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Hitesman)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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(I hope this hasn't alredy been discussed but I jst found this goup)

IMHO it's verry possible that DA will write another book in the Hitchiker
series.  If you look the continuig reason that the earth keeps coming back
is because one or moor if it's inhabitants is still around.  At the end of
the book it seems everyone is gone.  Except of course for Elvis.  He's
still sitting in his restraunt!  Leaving the whole thing wide open for
another book.  Unfortunatly I'd rather see a new Dirk Gently book without
all that confusing space travel and just safe insane mucking about in time.
Xref: sparky alt.fan.douglas-adams:4608 alt.usage.english:10463
From: ensalada@cats.ucsc.edu (Kevin Charles Rubio)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams,alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: Mark & pole
Date: 12 Jan 1993 08:47:13 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
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In article <20251.2b4e9675@ul.ie> mckeonj@ul.ie writes:
>Another use, or possibly misuse, is the word "marque" used to
>denote a particular make & model of sports/racing car. The same
>sport also gives us another wonderful misuse: writers will refer
>to e.g. Nigel Mansell as holding the "pole" position, meaning
>that he is in the lead. They have misheard the word "poll",
>meaning head.

That is a matter of dispute, actually.  True, the word `poll' does
mean the front or head or first in a series, but it also could be
`pole', like the post in horce racing.  The post, or pole, is on
the inside of the track, you see, and person starting the race in
the No. 1 position is closest to the pole, so in the pole position.

This is something I wish I knew definitely, since I am a motorsport
journalist.

However, I don't see any problem with `marque' being used as a make
of car.  OK, sure, car companies make more than one model (one mark --
or `marque' in French) these days, but the usage probably dates back
to when there was only one car type made by the manufacturers.
So, `marque' is talking these days about all the cars of a given company.
Is that a problem, when the design of any one car actually is made up
of several marks?

I imagine stone-age blueprints might have consisted of a single mark...!

Apologies to readers of alt.fan.douglas-adams
(on which I'm reading and following up -- I don't know if it's possible to
erase the name of the group I occupy)

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From: glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: TIFF Specification
Date: 12 Jan 93 22:02:03 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

>>The official specification for the TIFF image file
                                     ^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^
>>format requires a certain "magic number" in the
>>header field that programs look for, to identify
>>the file as being a TIFF file.  Guess what value
>>they chose?
>>
>>The *official* spec goes on to say this value was
>>chosen for its "deep philosophical significance"!!!
>>
>>I am not making this up!  I recently had to convert
>>some files and I needed a way to recognize TIFF so
>>I went and looked at the official specs.
>>
>>Matt Healy
>>"I pretend to be a network administrator; the lab
>> net pretends to work!"
>>
>>matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu
>
>
>What is TIFF????
>
It's a kind of graphic file. PaintShow, among other programs, uses the TIFF
or *.TIF format. You'd know what it was if you'd read the post more
carefully

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these totally outrageous arrows arrows for a fortune, or what!" -- D.R.
From: frank2@odie.ee.wits.ac.za
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: Mostly Harmless on cassette
Date: 8 Jan 93 14:50:30 GMT
Organization: Wits Electrical Engineering (Novell Users).

In article <1ijbmmINNqc@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bd053@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph C. Wynn) writes:


>Is this the first of his books to be on tape?

No.
 
Hitch Hikers' Guide was originally a BBC radio drama. It was only after it 
was broadcast that Adams turned it into a book. The recordings are available 
on a 6 tape set and also, apparently, CD. There are a number of differences 
in plot between the radio drama and book, but the Adams wit is very present 
throughout. Highly recommended indeed!
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From: frank2@odie.ee.wits.ac.za
Subject: How DID Dirk Gently save the world?
Organization: Wits Electrical Engineering (Novell Users).
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:04:32 GMT

This is the first time I've subscribed to this group, but it seems like the 
logical place to clear up some personal confusion about Dirk Gently and the 
Holistic Detective Agency.

I read the book a few years ago, and was never happy about how they saved 
the Earth. The problem now is that I've forgotten a lot of the plot and 
Jonty's lost my copy of the book. Anyway, I know it had something to do with 
the Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner. So...... how did Dirk & co. do it?

Please e-mail me.

David
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From: tuffyd@bray1a.its.rpi.edu (Devin 'Nice Guy' Tuffy)
Subject: Re: Why is Arthur Dent Saved?
Reply-To: tuffyd@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 02:26:56 GMT

In article <1993Jan2.075059.5238@news.columbia.edu>, hauben@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Michael Hauben) writes:
|> Hello, I am rereading the first book, Hitchhikers Guide, and have
|> a question. Is there any reason that Ford Prefect decides to take
|> poor Arthur along with him?
|> 
Because He's A Nice Guy?

dev.
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From: john7552@mach1.wlu.ca (Niall Johnson u)
Subject: Re: Mostly Harmless on cassette
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:15:26 GMT

In article <1ijbmmINNqc@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bd053@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph C. Wynn) writes:
>Has anyone listened to Mostly Harmless on the 4 cassette version.  As it 
>takes me a few hours to get back to school, I decided to buy the audio version
>of this book.  I have not yet finished the last cassette, but so far it is very
>interesting.
>By the way, it is approx. 6 hours long, unabridged, and read by the author.
>
>Is this the first of his books to be on tape?

No. There are various books, radio series, etc. that have been released on
CD/tape. One of the better ones is Adams reading "Last Chance to See" -
however, this is a slightly abridged adpatation of the book - its only 2
tapes. Pretty good though.

Ciao

Niall Johnson,			"Time flies when you do most of your real work
Dept. of Geography,		 after midnight - five months can go by and it
Wilfrid Laurier University.	 feels like one sleepless night."
     john7552@mach1.wlu.ca			 	Hunter S. Thompson
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From: karell@cs2.lamar.edu
Subject: Re:  Why is Arthur Dent saved?
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:52:43 GMT


The reason Ford Prefect needed to take Arthur with him is because the earth
was being built in order to answer "The Question", and he was hoping that
the answer would be encoded into his DNA.  This was his last hope at 
finding the answer, since the entire planet was being destroyed.  A hint
at reading Dougie:  keep reading and you questions will be answered--
sometimes.  Have fun!!!

Mindy


So long, and thanks for all the fish!
Karell@cs0.lamar.edu


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From: birinair@lysator.liu.se (Tobias L|fgren)
Subject: Silly Meaningsless post
Organization: Lysator ACC at Linkoping University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 17:26:39 GMT

Just made this litte piccy (yes, I was bored..) and thought I had to
post it somewhere... 
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                /            __--    "So long and thanks for all the
                /     ()  _--         fish!" - Campaign to Save the Humans
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                  /  //
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============================================================================
 Tobias L|fgren - LiTH, Sweden  - - - - - -  Email: birinair@lysator.liu.se  
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From: cmwolf@mtu.edu (christopher m. wolf)
Subject: Re: Comment on MH
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:33:48 GMT

ag173@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Hitesman) writes:
>
>(I hope this hasn't alredy been discussed but I jst found this goup)
>
>IMHO it's verry possible that DA will write another book in the Hitchiker
>series.  If you look the continuig reason that the earth keeps coming back
>is because one or moor if it's inhabitants is still around.  At the end of
>the book it seems everyone is gone.  Except of course for Elvis.  He's
>still sitting in his restraunt!  Leaving the whole thing wide open for
>another book.  Unfortunatly I'd rather see a new Dirk Gently book without
>all that confusing space travel and just safe insane mucking about in time.

From what I remember, the whole idea behind the Mk II was to destroy the
earth in all plural universes.  That kinda ends the series.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 12:52:39 EST
From: <CSD108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: Why is Arthur Dent Saved?

In article <1993Jan2.075059.5238@news.columbia.edu>,
hauben@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Michael Hauben) writes:
> Hello, I am rereading the first book, Hitchhikers Guide, and have
> a question. Is there any reason that Ford Prefect decides to take
> poor Arthur along with him?
>
In the book "Don't Panic" by Neil G.(something) it mentions the
"gradually eroding" reasons for Ford helping Arthur. SUpposedly
Ford originally wanted to enlist Arthur as a reporter for the
Guide (but I don't remember anything specific in HHGG about this)

By the time the computer game came out for Infocom, Ford just
wanted to return Arthur's towel and get out.

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From: tagg@hg.uleth.ca (Nathaniel Tagg)
Subject: Re: Mostly Harmless
Reply-To: tagg@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 07:23:34 GMT

In article <XP2PwB3w165w@anarky.tch.org>, nightsng@anarky.tch.org (Nightsong)
 writes:
>I agree with you, although most of my family is confused by his writing 
>style, I think it makes more sense than most.  Again, this is probably 
>due to the way I think which has ALWAYS confused my family.  By the way, 
>after reading "Mostly Harmless", my dad has taken to calling me "Random" 
>which really bothers me, as I do not go around throwing rocks at people 
>or other things she does.  I also noticed that on the night when I read 
>that book I started explaining things in great detail and explaining in 
>greater detail why they were not relevant to anything that we were 
>discussing or was happening.  This always seems to happen when I read his 
>books. :)
> 
> -Nightsong

	I suppose DA does provoke a lucid sense of meaningless holicity.  (Does
this phrase mean anything?  If not, why?  Do we really care about bowel cancer
in chickens?   Sorry, I seem to have strayed a bit...)  But isn't that what
humor of the absurd is all about?

-------- Nat

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From: rfunk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert M Funk)
Subject: Re: What does Mk II mean?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:25:14 GMT

In article <1ihv08INNd1s@coli-gate.coli.uni-sb.de> muehlen@fsinfo.cs.uni-sb.de (Ralf Muehlen) writes:
>
>Does anybody know what the  'MK II' means in 'The Guide Mk II'.
>Which is mentioned in 'Mostly harmless'.

'Mk II' is 'Mark II', meaning the second version of the guide.


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From: jim@n5ial.chi.il.us (Jim Graham)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Hitchhiker's shows up in a movie....
Distribution: world
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 05:17:56 GMT
Organization: Me? Organized? Hah! :-)

ok, this may not be news to everyone, and it isn't earth-shattering,
but it's amusing, at least.  :-)

I'm watching this really strange movie I rented...I think it's called
``Final Approach'' or something like that.  anyways, this guy apparently
crashes in an SR-71 (not sure just how successful they were when they
punched out), and he's lost it mentally.  I'm not sure exactly what *IS*
going on (the tape is on pause), but just a minute ago, he was in the
crapper, picked up the book on the counter, and guess what it was....
yep, ``Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'' itself.

strange, eh?  oh well, back to the movie before my VCR re-starts it on
its own....
   --jim

PS:  I'm getting this group now via my old UUCP feed, and don't call
     very often...if you're trying to contact me (specifically), you
     might want to do it via e-mail....the Reply-To field will point
     your e-mail to me at my new address (jim@n5ial.mythical.com).

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From: rfunk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert M Funk)
Subject: Re: Mostly Harmless
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 05:54:04 GMT

In article <C0AKoG.EM4@vcd.hp.com> johne@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (John Eaton) writes:
>Robert M Funk (rfunk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
>: 
>: I thought he told too much of what actually happened.  Sure it was
>: cryptic, but the last couple pages seemed (to me) to explain pretty
>: much the whole series.
>--------------
>Oh?       
>
>What was the Grebulon's mission?
Their only purpose, reverse-engineered by Guide Mk II, was to destroy
the Earth.

>What was in the "Blind Spot" that Ford found in the guides computer?
The existence of the 13th floor R&D dept. and the Guide Mk II.

>Where was the  Arthur II that corresponded to Tricia McMillian?
Probably at home leading the life Arthur I would have led had his home
and the Earth not been destroyed.  (I am assuming that the initial
destruction of Earth and the destruction of Arthur's home are
inseparable.  They both existed in SLATFATF.)

>John Eaton
>!hp-vcd!johne

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From: craigs@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Stace)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: How DID Dirk Gently save the world?
Date: 7 Jan 93 03:36:21 GMT
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland

frank2@odie.ee.wits.ac.za writes:

>Jonty's lost my copy of the book. Anyway, I know it had something to do with 
>the Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner. So...... how did Dirk & co. do it?

>Please e-mail me.

Ditto for me.  IF you don't post it, mail it to me as well?  Thanks much!

->Stace<-
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From: moser@ks.id.ethz.ch (Stefan Moser)
Subject: Re: Comment on MH
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology, Zurich
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 09:33:00 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.223348.14669@mtu.edu>, cmwolf@mtu.edu (christopher m. wolf) writes:
|> ag173@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Hitesman) writes:
|> >
|> >(I hope this hasn't alredy been discussed but I jst found this goup)
|> >
|> >IMHO it's verry possible that DA will write another book in the Hitchiker
|> >series.  If you look the continuig reason that the earth keeps coming back
|> >is because one or moor if it's inhabitants is still around.  At the end of
|> >the book it seems everyone is gone.  Except of course for Elvis.  He's
|> >still sitting in his restraunt!  Leaving the whole thing wide open for
|> >another book.  Unfortunatly I'd rather see a new Dirk Gently book without
|> >all that confusing space travel and just safe insane mucking about in time.
|> 
|> From what I remember, the whole idea behind the Mk II was to destroy the
|> earth in all plural universes.  That kinda ends the series.

Yeah, but in order to do that, every piece of matter that originated from earth needs to be destroyed simultaneously. And not only is Elvis still alive,
Fenchurch got somehow lost in space at the beginning of MH. It's not clear yet if
she made it back in time to any Earth to get evaporized. 

Stefan
From: ensalada@cats.ucsc.edu (Kevin Charles Rubio)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: Mostly Harmless comment
Date: 12 Jan 1993 08:49:16 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Reply-To: keeper@deeptht.armory.com
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In article <ubigpig.726624860@mcl> ubigpig@mcl.ucsb.edu (Jeremy Dodd) writes:
>Has anyone else noticed that Douglas Adams, in the 5th book, has quietly become Kurt Vonnegut?

Heh heh ...

There's a story about that which perhaps someone will tell you, if the
particular someone still is on the net.

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