From: EEC@PORTIA.UMDS.LON.AC.UK (Steve P eec@portia.umds.lon.ac.uk)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: TROUGHTON TITLE SEQUENCES
Date: 3 Sep 1992 04:33:49 -0500
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From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
> 
> Telesnaps and soundtracks can easily be reedited.  I've heard a soundtrack
> recording of "Mission to the Unknown" with the slightly updated theme music
> of the Troughton era rather than the Hartnell version.
> 
> Do the telesnaps show the title of the story in the correct Troughton
> font or are they just of the title sequence?  If they have the font right,
> then I might believe this.  If not, I'll accept what others have said
> until the day when the story is somehow recovered, should that ever occur.

There are two shots from the title sequence joined in the negative to
two shots from the opening moments of episode two.
The negative at this point was unbroken  (it was shown around in the Tavern).
I don't recall whether the title caption had been caught by the camera or not.
I'll check up.  Better still, why don't you doubting Thomases look it up for
yourselves and see what you think? DWB #97.

From: quiz@nemesis.UUCP
>
> I believe we have already had a posting saying DWB posted a correction
> some months later.  There are references in at least equally authoritative
> publications, saying it was The Faceless Ones, some of which I would certainly
> trust over DWB any day.  Example:

I believe the correction was in DWM (not DWB) and referred to a list they
published in Matrix Data Bank, not the telesnaps.

As for these other authoritive publications, I guess these are all from
*before* the telesnaps were found !  Your evidence is all
about 20th-hand (i.e. information that has been passed along without being
queried).  What I am saying is that here is fresh, new and convincing
evidence otherwise.  Look at it and see !  If you then have further evidence
that these telesnaps have been "fiddled" (what's the point of fiddling
them anyway?) then fair enough - post it here.  Now, I suppose its possible
John Cura wound his film on two shots - took shots of "The Macra Terror" and
then wound his film BACK to take two shots from the titles of "The Faceless
Ones" just to fool people.  I think not.

> 
> I quote from Files Magazine, Season Four: Part II, by John Peel (Page 32
> if you are interested)
> 
>         "This story also marked the first time that the title sequence
>          for the story was changed.  Until this point, the same
>          titles used for the very first William Hartnell show had been
>          constantly used.  Now this was changed, and with episode one
>          of "The Faceless Ones", a new one was designed and used by
>          Bernard Lodge, and the Doctor's face was formed for the first time
>          in the sequence.  The original theme was also rerecorded and
>          rearranged slightly to fit the title sequence.  Since that point,
>          it became fairly acceptable for such changes to be made from time
>          to time - they were changed twice in the Pertwee and twice
>          again in Tom Baker's time."
>         

Yeah well, so what ?   It was written before the stills came to light and
there was no hard evidence to suggest that it wasn't "The Faceless Ones".

> And:
> 
> How do we know that these clips you mention they have were simply misfiled?

I don't remember mentioning any clips on this thread.  Theres is some
8mm stuff of a TV picture about from this story.  This includes a bit at
the pumps in ep 3 and a shot of the giant (model) Macra during episode 4
and a couple of other bits which I haven't seen.  I don't believe this includes
the title sequence, though.

> 
> @x
> 
> 

So to sum up.  I think that it's another example of "The Law Of Doctor Who"
over-riding available evidence.  It has been said for years that "The
Faceless Ones" was the first story with the new title sequence. Fair
enough, what was the point of contradicting this with no evidence to the
contrary ?   However, now some new evidence comes to light - and so the
usual stuck-in-the-mud fans continue to proclaim otherwise because "The
Law Of Doctor Who" states otherwise.  It's the same attitude that had
the "Doctor Who was transmitted live" crap in the seventies.  It had
to be true, didn't it, because the BBC said so and, later, DWM said so.
No doubt when John Peel does a new book that says "The Macra Terror" was
the first with this title sequence, then, hey presto, it'll become "Doctor
Who Law".  Then, in some spectacular act of double-think, people will
proclaim they never said any different.  Don't say I didn't tell you so.....

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