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From: nectar@world.std.com (Jacques A Vidrine)
Subject: What to do in Chicago?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 14:00:35 GMT

I'll be in Chicago from Novemeber 28 through December 3.  Would
someone post some showdates in the area around that time?  Recommended
clubs would also be appreciated.

Danke.

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From: dmanning@cwis.unomaha.edu (David Manning)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Ministry concert in Amsterdam
Keywords: ministry
Date: 9 Nov 92 02:46:02 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

heederik@fwi.uva.nl (Robbert Heederik) writes:



>Hi,

>Last friday, Ministry and Helmet played in the Paradiso in Amsterdam... 

>N.W.O.
>The Missing
>Deity
>Hero
>Psalm 69
>TV song		(Somebody from Revco did the vocals ??)
>Just One Fix
>So What
>Scarecrow
>Thieves 	(Al introduced this song with "This is a slow one....THIEVES!")
>Stigmata
>Burning Inside

As a side note, this is pretty close to the Lollapalooza set here in the       
States. I know they played the first three as a medley of sorts (a really
hard medley), and then the last three for sure. Can't quite remember. They
also played "Supernaut" by 'their good friends' 1000 Homo DJs.

>Noticed that "Jesus built my hotrod" wasn't played?? Strange.

They didn't play it here this summer, either. It probably wouldn't be
the same without Gibby. :-)

Dave
  
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:27:04 -0500 
From: Joseph Velardi <jv14+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Theory about rec.mus.ind
Distribution: usa

Excerpts from netnews.rec.music.industrial: 9-Nov-92 Re: Theory about
rec.mus.ind by Vijay Sadananda Pai@owln 
> Yeah, well, I'm sure some people would have the exact opposite
> reaction, and they're entitled to their opinions too. But their
> posts asking about what type of motor is used in a specific TG song
> or what voltage power lines are used as backup music on the EN
> greatest hits album are just as annoying to those of us who like
> dance industrial as our posts about Ebb, NIN, and others are to them.

Amen.

Joe
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From: lmn52210@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ramona)
Subject: Re: More Thrill Kill Kult shtuff...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:27:04 GMT

I saw TKK in September and Groovie Man (shit, that hurt to type) had
a tattoo on the inside of his forearm, from the wrist to about half-
way to his elbow, a satanic cross.  It's not the upside-down Xian 
thing.  It looks more like an ankh with the top of the oval removed.
This guy you heard said he was a satanist, but not in the popular 
sense?  What do you mean?  I have a friend who's a satanist, and I 
want to compare notes.


					   Ramona

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From: flynn@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (FLYNN  JEFFREY THOMAS)
Subject: Re: Surely, "With Sympathy" is NOT Ministry !
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:01:04 GMT

kotsines@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (KOTSINES  THOMAS ANT) writes:

>In article <1992Nov12.161428.22612@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> jvc0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (James Carrier) writes:
>>>Decided to buy/listen to everthing Uncle Alien ever did, get it ?
>>>So, last night looked at "With Sympathy" and noted
>>> (a) poppy titles
>>> (b) short playing times
>>> (c) short CD
>>> (c) picture of two Androgens
>>>Became concerned that whole CD was a typo
>>>Decided to listen.
>>>Almost died of laughter !
>>>Imagine a guy with skulls around his neck singing "Thieves" now at
>>>LaLa was once an Androgen !
>>>Strange world, eh ?
>>>Thank the Gods or the power of hard drugs !
>>>
>>>My Uncle Al was once an Androgen; but, don't worry:  He's cool now
>>>that he's done all those drugs ! 696969696696969696969696969696969
>>
>>too bad that's ministry's best album, except for maybe twitch.  glad to know
>>drugs make the man {in your honest opinion.
>>-- 

>I was going to say the same thing...
Good thing you didn't.  The last thing we need is more mindless clutter
on this group.  

Pudthwart

("Note the irony." -Me, weren't you listening)

>[/]
From: blu@cellar.org (Dan Reed)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: That NIN fella IS HE DEAD???????
Date: 13 Nov 92 14:08:09 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

JMC159@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

> My boyfriend wants me to post this asking you if Trent Reznor is DEAD!!!!  He
> said that someone told him that he died of a heroine overdose, and the dude
> said it was NO LIE!!!  Does anyone out there know if this is true?  I am not
> tryong to start amy rumors, I just want the facts!
> 
> Jill

Ya know, I head this too.  See, my mom knows this friend of hers, who knows 
this dude, who knows this lady, who is a nurse, and the nurse said that Trent 
*IS DEAD*!  Its No lie!  

And ya know what?  *I* killed him, thats right, Trent, came over to borrow 
some of my old disco albums, and well, we started to get a little silly, so 
he broke out this big needle filled with heroine, and he just stabbed it 
right in his neck... as he did it he said "This is for you Al!".  I jabbed it 
in further, through his spinal cord.

Now he's dead..  See, no rumor.. its true!

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From: sluter@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Steven David Sluter)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: RE:Big Catholic Guilt
Date: 8 Nov 1992 07:25:45 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

Hey .... speaking of BCG ... theyre playing a show in Worcester, Ma on 
Sat., Nov 14 on the campus of WPI in Gompeis Pub ... ONLY $2!!!!! AT THE DOOR.

It promises to be one of the best Pub shows of the year at WPI, (we just
had a show with Belly, and one with Green Magnet School) .... with
Big Catholic Guilt and their incredible laser/light show, along with 
local industrial talent Banshee Bribe and WPI band Canister(insert shameless
plug for friend's band here) ... 

IT IS WELL WORTH THE MONEY TO SEE THREE GREAT INDUSTRIAL BANDS FOR ONLY $2!!!

anyway, for more info, contact rmason@wpi.wpi.edu ...

or ME at sluter@wpi.wpi.edu 

Later, hope to see you there .... 

steve
From: DICKENJD@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Orpheus)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Pigface bootleg
Date: 10 Nov 92 05:20:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Nov10.052049.10880
Organization: Vanderbilt University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.21

In <1992Nov10.33405.1325@ms.uky.edu> brian@nx27.mik.uky.edu writes:

> I was recently at a record show and picked up a Pigface bootleg tape.  It  
> wasn't exactly what I expected, though.  Almost the entire thing is an  
> interview with the members of the band (most of it mixed in an almost  
> Negativland sort of way).  Chris Connelly tries to explain the motives  
> behind Pigface with some interviewer (named Jason I think) and at one  
> point tries to make the interviewer admit that he hates Pigface.  There  
> are only 3 actual songs on the tape, at least that's all I can remember  
> since I've only listened to it once.  I was wondering if anyone has come  
> accross something similar.  The strange thing is that it is all quite good  
> quality, making me worry that maybe I somehow got either really screwed or  
> really lucky.
> Thanks
> -Brian

	Lean Jucy Pork isn't a bootleg. It's a radio promo, sent out to
DJs. They also released to via special order, adn (I believe) is available via
mailorder to Invisible.


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From: malexan@a.cs.okstate.edu (ALEXANDER MICHAEL)
Subject:  Concert Dates Wanted
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 04:30:16 GMT

I would appreciate any info on tour dates for Ministry, NIN, and PWEI in the
Dallas/Ok. City/Tulsa/Wichita area.  Any reccommendations for similar groups
in the same area in the near future would also be appreciated.
			--msa

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From: Mark.Wagner@f99.n121.z1.FidoNet.Org (Mark Wagner)
Sender: FredGate@p0.f99.n121.z1.FidoNet.Org
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: SCARIEST song ever?
Date: 05 Nov 92  23:29:02 EST

BKM>    I'm sure most of you agree that a lot of things discussed here on
BKM>  r.m.i. is going to involve SOME minute form of terror, whether it's
BKM>  near Halloween or not.   Asking people on r.m.i what they think is
BKM>  the SCARIEST song is like asking folks on alt.rap what they think the
BKM>  FUNKIEST song is or asking people on alt.thrash what they think the
BKM>  Loudest or Fastest song is.  (Note: I apologize for the above
BKM>  generalizations, but I'm just using them now to make a point).

BKM>  Let's talk about scariest ALBUMS overall.


I find this whole thread rather odd; industrial music does not scare me
at all.  How could music frighten you?

wagner@macc.wisc.edu
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From: David Brady <Brady_David@Tandem.Com>
Subject: Re: Foetus and Ministry lyrics wanted !
X-Xxdate: Tue, 10 Nov 92 21:04:03 GMT
Organization: Tandem, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:03:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.190540.2437@sco.com> Desi The Three-Armed Wonder Comic,
jondr@sco.COM writes:
>foetus is one guy: jim thirlwell, also known as frank want, jim foetus,
>clint ruin and probably one or two other names i forgot.  i think he's
>originally from australia but he lives in brooklyn new york now.
>
>check out his side projects - wiseblood (with roli mosimann), steroid
>maximus (all instrumental), clint ruin and lydia lunch (lydia was his
>girlfriend at one point)...


For more information check out the current Option (Nov/Dec '92 issue).  It has
a decent/good 4 page article on him and his background.
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From: gt5986c@prism.gatech.EDU (John P. Arnzen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: ----------The BOX--------------?
Date: 13 Nov 92 06:36:22 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In <1992Nov12.161826.61175@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> jvc0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (James Carrier) writes:

>>Has anyone heard of THE BOX?


>the singer, peter hope, did an album with richard kirk from cabaret voltaire.
>it's called "hoodoo talk".  it was on wax trax but it's been deleted from
>their catalog.   it's actually really good.

The Grey Area of Mute is supposed to be rereleasing it, if they haven't
already.  In fact, now that I think about it, they may have, because I
found a 3-cd box set of Cab releases put out by the GA.  If I correctly
recollect, it had the Cabs' 1974-76 disk, one of Mal's solo works (don't
know if it was Black Jesus or not), and maybe Hoodoo Talk.  The set ran
about $45 down here.  I've heard and read mixed reviews about Hoodoo.

But back to the original question, from what i remember from a review in
the Trouser Press Rec Gd they were pretty much loud fast jazzy almost
experimental in approach.  The early couple releases are supposed to be
the best of the bunch, the later ones not so wunderbar, with Hope's singing
becoming unnerving [i haven't actually heard anything by them, but from
what i gather, hope has a fairly melodramatic overemphasized singing style,
at least on the last few albums].  I don't know if any of their stuff is
available on cd domestically, or even if it is over in Europe, but you
may wanna check a Tower if you're near one, or even try their mail-order
number to get some info.

Best of luck!

john

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From: lpm@fert2.fe.psu.edu (Lee Miller/8192;PennState-Fayette)
Subject: Re: The election
Organization: PennState - Fayette Campus Computer Center
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 21:18:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.063111.29353@adobe.com> dkletter@adobe.com (SUGAR in their vitamins?) writes:
>>""Tipper Gore is on her way to the Whitehouse""
>
>i've been thinking about this during the entire campaign, and it's
>especially been bothering me because neither the Bush folks nor
>the Perot folks even bothered to mention Tipper's involvement with the
>PMRC. in fact, i was really suprised when during the VP debates when
>Al Gore made a comment about Phyllis Schlafley being given free
>reign over the Republican platform and Dan Quayle completely missed
>an opportunity to strike back with a quip about how Phyllis has
>been funneling TONS of dollars and time into the PRMC. it would
>have really put the Democrats back a little if they could demonstrate
>that the entire two-party system is corrupt and everyone is in
>bed with the special interest groups.

The main reason the Republicans didn't bring up Tipper's involvement with
the PMRC is because the Bush/Quayle administration was worse than she ever
tried to be.  The Republican administration supported legislation
determining what can be sold to whom, Quayle and Bush both voiced opinions
on "Body Count" and "2pacalypse Now" indicated they felt it should be
banned.  Kepp this in mind Tpper Gore never got anything banned nor did she
attempt to.  The PMRC only tried to get the music industry to be semi self
regulating by labelling albums, they never moved for legislation as to
banning records and in fact, if she is to be believed, Tipper is very much
against such legislation which would limit the right of free speech.


								    -Lee
From: lpm@fert2.fe.psu.edu (Lee Miller/8192;PennState-Fayette)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: NIN
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:46:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: atlantis.?g!vHcmapa
Organization: PennState - Fayette Campus Computer Center

In article <1992Nov5.170701.8093@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> scupin@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (SCUPIN  JONATHAN RAYMOND) writes:
>                  I'm glad there are people like us who are deep enough to
>understand trent when he emotionally cries out "we pigs get what we deserve".

Understand? you didn't even get the quote right it's "Pigs we get what pigs
deserve"


							-Lee
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: mcspinks@unix.amherst.edu (Snarfblat)
Subject: Re: Big Catholic Guilt & Old
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:54:48 GMT

PROSTHESIS (scq6817@ritvax.isc.rit.edu) wrote:
: hmm...where are from anyway....?
: Big Catholic Guilt is from boston i think...not positive tho...
: anyway they sure do kick ass lots but i was never
: NEVER able to find any of their stuff....
: even when they had a semi-hit "Tom"
: "Tom" had a chorus that went something like this....
: lemme think here...
: "no ones gunna give a fuck when yer drownin'"
: "no ones gunna give a fuck when ya die!"
: "no one cares what yer friends all told you"
: "well yer friends all told, well your friends all lied"
: anyway its great stuff and if you DO happen to get any info lemme know eh?

I'm from Boston. Big Catholic Guilt is fairly well-known here. I guess if they
are unheard of/obscure in other areas, maybe they are from Boston. the chorus
to Tom goes like this:
No one's gonna save your life when you're drowning
No one's gonna give a shit when you die
All your friends, they can tell you you're the greatest but your friends all
   tell you but your friends all lie.
then repeat with "no one's gonna give a fuck..."etc
bloody cool song. Uncle is good too. and demolition man uh..i guess they don't
have any bad songs. 
Snahf 
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: dwv@cs.brown.edu (David W. Vorbrich)
Subject: Re: Theory about rec.mus.ind
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:12:53 GMT

In article <1dm7e3INNgjk@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, jaa@po.CWRU.Edu (Joseph A. Ambrose) writes:
|> 
|> 	There are a few  kinds of people on his board. The Knowing, the think they
|> know, and the totally clueless.

I think there is probably a 4th category of r.m.i. people, of which I would
belong to.  This would be called something like, "The lurking who glean info
from the Knowing and learn what not to do from the totally clueless."

Basically, I post about once every 2 weeks (average), but read most every
post, regardless of topic to learn what I can.  I read the FAQ before posting,
and even do a subject search on old articles before asking a question.  I find
most _every_ post worthwhile, though I, too, would classify myself as evolving.
I moved from NIN to Front242 about 4 months ago, and just now bought my first
SP album... much to my pleasure.

|> thanx for your time ya' bastards.

I think your closing line was rather Trentish of you, after having flamed his
'whining' so strongly :)


Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: shawn@thor.atd.ucar.edu (Shawn Copeland)
Subject: Re: new Coil CD
Organization: National Center for Atmospheric Research
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:50:46 GMT

|> I'll try to post a track listing from home tonight for comparison
|> purposes.  Maybe even a review!

From my memory, the EP I have is actually a one-sided LP, with one
long, very intense track.  I'll check tonight.

|> I ordered it from Ear/Rational music through email. :-)
|> (but it was delivered by US Mail).  Ear/Rational's email
|> address is: angst%cs@hub.ucsb.edu
|> He has some of the best pricing I've seen on a lot of cool
|> stuff, including industrial, techno, orbishness, all kinds of
|> stuff.  I do not in any way profit from his activity, but I
|> like to promote him because he's one of the best sources I've
|> found for hard-to-get stuff.  I'd like to see him stay in business.

What a great net.resource.  Obscure music distribution with an email
address!
-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: Re: The election
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:49:31 GMT

bkeeley@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Brian Keeley) writes:

>>If I wanted to go to another country to visit and make money, I 
>>would fully expect to have to go through a bit of paperwork to
>>legalize such a venture.

Unless of course, you're Meat Beat Manifesto and the bureau loses the
paperwork.
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From: shaun@octel.com (Attack of the Dayglo Howler Monkeys)
Subject: Are you Travis V. Broughton?
Organization: Octel Communications Inc., Milpitas Ca.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 05:48:01 GMT

If you are Travis V. Broughton, would you send me mail, please?  If you're
not Travis V. Broughton, you can send mail to vjmurphy@carina.unm.edu,
because he's lonely and he needs your love.

I however, am only interested in hearing from Travis V. Broughton.  

Somewhere this message is being saved forever.  Kind of sad, isn't it?


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From: torben@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Random Tox)
Subject: Re: Front242 vs. Yellow
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 07:12:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.034456.10850@cs.brown.edu> dwv@cs.brown.edu (David W. Vorbrich) writes:
>A friend just loaned me the disc 'Stella' by the group Yellow.  Definately
>not industrial, but probably not anything concrete for that matter.  The
>songs varried drastically.  (this is the group that did "Oh Yeah" which was
>used in the Ferris Beuler's Day Off movie).

	Actually, the group is "Yello". Big difference. They're not
industrial, but have (in my opinion) a firm toehold at the edge of
industrial music. Listen to their older albums, the sound change is strong,
and while some older songs are very good, the quality has improved.

>Anyway, one song on the album (called "Domingo") sounded quite a lot like
>Front242... the beat, key changes, and note-holding in the background, with
>chant-like lyrics which are something about Jesus (much in Spanish I think).

	Yello is an incredible group. They are very diverse in their music
styles. They have 7 albums out, listed below in order of Release:

Solid Pleasure (1980 I think)
Claro Que Si
Gotta Say Yes to Another Excess
Stella
One Second
Flag
Baby  (Released last summer in Europe but seemingly still not available in
       the US.. why?)

	There is also a compilation called "80 - 85" which has a two songs
unavailable on other albums... There is a lot to say bout them. They are a
Swiss group, basically two guys, Dieter Meyer and Boris Blank.
	Domingo is not veryFront 242is at all... F242 has no guitar at
all, really. Check out the song "Si Senor the Hairy Grill" on the album
One Second.. thrashy incoherent pseudoindustrial. Very cool. Claro que Si,
Stella and Flag are their best albums (IMHO) and Baby is pretty good as
well, although I prefer the others... 
	Domingo is primarily in English, just with vocals sung by
german-speaking people with an odd Spanish accent on occasion. They like a
lot of pseudo-latin beats.
	The Race, Tied up are classics (The Race is in the soundtrack to
scads of movies, nuns on the run, ford fairlane, and 100 others...) And
Third of June is simply incredible... all are on Flag.

	- Random Tox

	'Course my fave groups right now are Carter USM, Doubting Thomas
(SP), Controlled Bleeding and FLA (a bit pop tho...)

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