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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Friday, 4 Sep 1992 15:15:03 EDT
From: <IO20444@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
Subject: Re: What do I want in Life

Just a quick note: Roger von Oech has written two books about
creativity, called A Kick in the Seat of the Pants, and A Whack on
the Side of the Head (I think), and they're both excellent for trying
to solve any problem, not just career goals, but anything.
Another thing is, while on the subject of career goals, do what you love,
because that's what you're going to spend most of your time doing for
however long you live.  This sounds vague, but can really be specific.
For instance, if you like to order people around a little, and shuffle
papers a lot, and making lots of complex plans, maybe you like being an
administrator.  On the other hand, if you don't like ordering people
around, and you dislike paperwork, maybe you want something else.
(Of course, I'm just a college student, what do I know?)
--------Daphne B.
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve,sci.cognitive
From: Daniel.Stern@mixcom.mixcom.com (Daniel.Stern)
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
Subject: Re: Memory Training
Date: 29 Aug 92 10:12:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: mixcom.1992Aug29.101225.5534
Distribution: usa
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.

I couldn't agree more with Godfery Degamo's conclusions about techniques and
the books by Lorayne.  The books are good, if you're willing to read through
the self-promotion stuff.  Another book that I found to be a good resource
was "Total Recall" by Joan Minniger published by Pocket Books.

I would be interested in seeing further postings in this group.  What have
other people read and tried? Are there any other good resources?  And
Godfery, how do you keep a memory journal?
-- 
Daniel.Stern@mixcom.com
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
From: malcolm@portia.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Hugh Malcolm)
Subject: Re: Memory Training
Organization: Murdoch University
Date: 28 Aug 92 06:40:57 GMT

Re the comment about "prior to modern print" etc:
Plato lived about the time that writing things down was really coming
into fashion. He commented that this sort of thing would really
destroy people's memories.
Funny thing is, he was right! If you don't have kids of your own, find
someone else's. Read them something interesting, maybe a couple of
times. Oops, I forgot to say _pre-literate_ kid i.e. 4 or 5 years old.
They like to have things they enjoy read to them a number of times.
Then ask them to tell you the story. Their recall is phenomenal. My
eldest son was repeating big slabs of the Hobbit and the Odyssey (his
choices) when he was five. Now, nearly ten years later, his memory is
the same as any other normal literate person. The capacity to remember
faded as his reading skill developed.

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From: tki@atk.tpo.fi (Tuukka Kirveskoski)
Subject: Re: What do I want in Life
Organization: Tampere Telephone Co, Tampere Finland
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 18:17:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.124730.28133@bnr.ca> Joan Balser writes:
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>From: Joan Balser
>Subject: What do I want in Life
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>Hi net people!  I have a problem.  I want to set a goal to get a better
>position career wise.  The biggest problem is I don't know what I want
>to be and find myself jumping from one direction to the next.  Presently, I'm a
>Network Administrator.I assist in troubleshooting hardware and software
>problems for the Macintosh computer.  I enjoy what I do but it doesn't pay all
>that well.  One thing for sure, I enjoy working with people and solving their
>problems!  Every other area in my life is going terrific. I know precisely what
>I want to do.  

>This is the 7 step  goal formula I use and it works!!:

>1.  Be PRECISE/EXACT on what you want - identify goal.
>2.  Set a deadline - put an actual date on it.
>3.  List the obstacles you will have to overcome.
>4.  Identify the groups, organizations, people you will have to work with.
>5.  List the skills needed to get there.
>6.  Develop a plan of action. Do alittle something everyday.(commitment         here)
>7.  List benefits - What's in it for me?

>Does anyone out there have a formula I could use to determine/narrow
>down what goal/career I would like to do?  I would be most appreciative!!

>Thanks in advance for your comments.

>Joan

There is a huge amount of books available which describe many alternative
ways to make a life a success-story. Most of them are just a kick to ass
for doing something to it and nothing else. I think the real problem
is how to determine a clear goal which is not too high or not too low.
There you are standing against your own self-consciousness. Do I believe
in my talents? What's my strategy when something went wrong? Can I take
the risk etc.?  First of all, IMO, you should have several strategies or
plans for your goal, but think once more, what really is your goal? Am
I honest to myself? I have used some computer programs and Roger 
von Oech's 'Creative Whack Pack' -cards (Creative Think, P.O. box 7354,
Menlo Park, California 94026)  for generating new ideas but you can choose
your own methods, of course.

Tuukka
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From: grega@daphni.world (Greg Alonso)
Subject: Re: What do I want in Life
Organization: /home/grega/.organization
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:50:24

In article <1992Sep2.124730.28133@bnr.ca> Joan Balser writes:

   The biggest problem is I don't know what I want..
   I enjoy what I do but it doesn't pay all that well.  
   One thing for sure, I enjoy working with people and solving their problems!

   1.  Be PRECISE/EXACT on what you want - identify goal.

   Does anyone out there have a formula I could use to determine/narrow
   down what goal/career I would like to do?  


Joan, 

What you might find that helps you is to determine what your values are.  
Your values will help you determine what type of goals to make.  Anyone
can use your formula for almost any goal, but if it does fit about the
way you feel about life you will never be able to do it.

To find out what your values are: 
 Think about what is really important to you.  Money? "it doesn't pay
all that well", relationships? "I enjoy working with people and
solving their problems!", security?, etc.
 Asking what you would you risk your life for can get to some core
values and beliefs for you.
 Think about what you are doing when you are really happy and try to
think why it makes you happy can help you orient yourself to keep
doing those things.

Good Luck! these are not easy things to thing about, can take a long
time, and will need revision once in a while.


greg alonso
grega@verdix.com

Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
From: mw@ki.fht-mannheim.de (Marc Wachowitz)
Subject: Re: Getting Your Goals
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 12:04:19 GMT
Organization: Fachhochschule fuer Technik Mannheim
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Ray Rosch <rosch@cpdw.enet.dec.com> wrote:
: Somehow 'control' became a bad word.  Also 'manipulation' became a bad word.
I don't see it this way - but they have _also_ some negative meaning, and
the quoted attempt to "morally enforce" goals on people by infering they were
dangerous just by having a more relaxed life-philosophy sounds much like it.
As usual, a workable balance is in question.

: Perhaps the people in Florida should view Andrew with a sense of 'wonder' and
: stop trying to control their reality by putting plywood over their windows
: and accept the results of nature so they will then be in 'harmony' with it.
: Wasn't it Ghandi who advised the Jews to accept the pogroms of the Nazi's so
: the world would learn by their example of accepting suffering.
Confusing not all the time hunting for more and more with passivity and apathy
is an old misunderstanding - sigh.

Perhaps consider that many problems may be self-made (no, don't mean Andrew :-)
Many "psychic" problems (in a wider sense, not just what is commonly considered
"ill" - and don't tell me there were none) may be the result of delusion.
Instead of all the time trying to "run away from your feet" and "look away
from yourself", it may be an advantage to understand the problem first.
When you really "see" what's going on there, and not merely think abstractly
about it, a change happens instantly, without any need to project some goal
into the future.

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Marc Wachowitz, mw@gandalf.ki.fht-mannheim.de, 75742@novell1.rz.fht-mannheim.de
  *  wonder everyday    *    nothing in particular    *    all is special  *
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
From: m23364@mwunix (James Meritt)
Subject: Re: Memory Training
Organization: MITRE Corporation, McLean VA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 12:07:49 GMT

In article <94669@bu.edu> spacefox@acs.bu.edu (Godfrey Degamo) writes:
}Anyways, I've been keeping a "memory exercise" journal for about 2 years
}now and I've been practicing Lorayne's Techniques for about 3 years.
}I can probably give you suggestions as to what I think works and perhaps
}needs a bit of clarification.  If you are interested, email me.  I don't
}want to bore this group with mundane details.  (But, if the group wants
}suggestions posted, fine by me!)

Do it!  That would be MUCH more applicable to the name of this group than
a lot of what I've seen here.

Besides, I'm interested...


Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
From: mikel@col.hp.com (Mike Lopke)
Subject: Memory Training
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:55:14 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

I am looking for info on training/improving my memory.
Books, systems and personal ideas are all welcome.

As a side interest, does anyone have any interesting 
info on the history of memory improvement?  I have
read that memory training, before modern print, was
highly reguarded and practiced.  This prompted me to
wonder about all the books in print claiming to have
a "revolutionary new system."  Are their ideas new?

Thanks,
Mike Lopke
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
From: stark@dwovax.enet.dec.com (Todd I. Stark)
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
Subject: Re: Optiman
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:27:52 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


mw@ki.fht-mannheim.de (Marc Wachowitz) writes...
> 
>To understand a problem obviously requires a certain intelligence, and that
>intelligence cannot be derived from or cultivated through specialization. It
>comes into being only when we are passively aware of the whole process of our
>consciousness, which is to be aware of ourselves without choice, without
>choosing what is right and what is wrong. 
...
>you are able to do that constantly, continuously, then every problem can be
>solved fundamentally, not superficially.
>   -- Jiddu Krishnamurti


Marc, can you relate an example of a problem that Krishnamurti solved in this
manner ?

								todd
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
From: marks@marsh.cs.curtin.edu.au (Mark Schaschke )
Subject: An alien called Alex
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 06:17:19 GMT

To all and none, this is not going to be exiting, it will just be me
rambling...  Be warned...


There seem to be many forms of "self-inprovement" courses available, if you have
enough money.  The usual crap about "We need to cover costs..." comes out,
but 80 people a week at $600 each???  I mean, why do people go for that?
I think that the effects (that are used as promotion) that these courses
seem to get from their "students" are real, and that the way they are teaching
is also valid, but it should be on a more one-to-one basis, as opposed to one-
to-eighty.  These people have a right to make money, but I think it would
be nice to see somebody with a few personal ethics.


  My rambling done...  Mark

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Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
From: Joan Balser
Subject: What do I want in Life
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:47:30 GMT

Hi net people!  I have a problem.  I want to set a goal to get a better
position career wise.  The biggest problem is I don't know what I want
to be and find myself jumping from one direction to the next.  Presently, I'm a
Network Administrator.I assist in troubleshooting hardware and software
problems for the Macintosh computer.  I enjoy what I do but it doesn't pay all
that well.  One thing for sure, I enjoy working with people and solving their
problems!  Every other area in my life is going terrific. I know precisely what
I want to do.  

This is the 7 step  goal formula I use and it works!!:

1.  Be PRECISE/EXACT on what you want - identify goal.
2.  Set a deadline - put an actual date on it.
3.  List the obstacles you will have to overcome.
4.  Identify the groups, organizations, people you will have to work with.
5.  List the skills needed to get there.
6.  Develop a plan of action. Do alittle something everyday.(commitment 	here)
7.  List benefits - What's in it for me?

Does anyone out there have a formula I could use to determine/narrow
down what goal/career I would like to do?  I would be most appreciative!!

Thanks in advance for your comments.

Joan
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve,alt.consciousness,talk.religion.newage
From: neilf@natinst.com (Neil Feiereisel)
Subject: Life Training Weekend - Intro Meeting
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
Distribution: austin
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:01:53 GMT

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Relationships, job, work environment, financial situation?  Have you ever 
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Please come to the free preview for the life training weekend to find out 
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If you have questions or want more information, call Teresa Lavergne at
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    ** Do not reply to this account - please call by telephone **

The Life Training Weekend is sponsored by the Kairos Foundation, a
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Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
From: seove@mars.lerc.nasa.gov (ERIC OVERTON)
Subject: Promise Yourself
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: 25 Aug 1992 17:14 EDT  

PROMISE YOURSELF ---


To be so strong that nothing can disturb your peace of mind.

To talk health, happiness and prosperity to every person you
meet.

To make all your friends feel that there is something in them.

To look at the sunny side of everything and make your optimism
come true.

To think only of the best, to work only for the best and expect
only the best.

To be just as enthusiastic about the success of others as you are
about your own.

To forget the mistakes of the past and press on to the greater
achievements of the future.

To wear a cheerful countenance at all times and give every living
creature you meet a smile.

To give so much time to the improvement of yourself that you have
no time to criticize others.

To be too large for worry, too noble for anger, too strong for
fear, and too happy to permit
the presence of trouble.


                                                  ---Kristone
From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
Subject: Re: "Superman" books
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:46:12 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University

I'd recommend the "Supermen" anthology by Asimov, Greenberg and that other guy 
that works with them.  My fave is "Gil the Arm", but I forget the author.
     Dave Van Domelen, has the power to instantly forget Legendre's equation 
after the final....
From: houle@nmt.edu (Paul Houle)
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
Subject: Re: Optiman
Date: 30 Aug 92 00:43:53 GMT
Organization: New Mexico Tech


	I don't know if I really like this idea of an 'optimal' human being.
Just in the limited field of athletic activity,  one needs a different kind
of physical development to excell in different sports.  So,  if I want to
win the tour de france,  I would need a very different body (and mind!) than
the kind of person who wants to win the PGA golf tournament or who wants to
play in the Superbowl.  If you think of a bunch of great atheletes such as
Greg Lemond,  Larry Bird,  and Nolan Ryan,  you realize that they all acheive
excellence in different ways.

	In other fields,  such as science,  art and philosophy,  the
differences become even greater.  How can we compare Einstein and Shakespeare?
Picasso and Plato?  Jesus and Abraham Lincon?  We would agree that these were
all great men,  who all acheived excellence -- but again,  they did it all
in different ways using different skills.  Did Shakespeare write the greatest
plays in the english language by worrying about being optimal?  Did Einstein
need nootropics to develop the theory of relativity?  None of these people
were perfectly balanced,  but all of them contributed to civilization.

	As such,  I see the optimal man as the end product of the 20th century
disease.  Optiman might be 5'11" and weigh 180 lbs (and is optiman really
a man or a woman?),  and have an IQ of 250 and be able to bench press 400
pounds and run a mile in four minutes,  but that doesn't necessarilly make him
do anything that is constructive for himself,  for his friends,  or for his
species.  Can optiman fall in love?  Can he write a sonnet?  Climb a mountain?
Defend his country?  Spend a whole afternoon admiring flowers and blowing
dandelion seeds away?  Is he happy?  All the time?  Should he be happy all the
time in the face of injustice in the world?  What religion does optiman
follow?  Who will he vote for president?  Will he speak out against an unjust
war?  Will he ever run for public office?  What are the moral standards of
optiman?

	We can't judge greatness just by the numbers.  Human greatness comes
in a lot of forms,  and the road of civilization and human accomplishment
has been built (and has to be built) by people with different talents,  skills,
strengths,  weaknesses and values.


--
From: chrisl@stpaul.gov (Chris A Lyman)
Subject: Re: Shameless attack on pro-choicers in general!
Organization: City of Saint Paul Public Works
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:58:32 GMT

chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney) wows us:
> chrisl@stpaul.gov (Chris A Lyman) writes:

>> Work on your reading skills, Steve.  My claim is that sperm and ova need a
>> person to filter the chicken soup to them, too, just like the z/e/f.  You
>> always seem to ignore that person; maybe that's why you want that person
>> thrown out of the house.

> Sperm & ova won't do anything even if fed chicken soup: they can't grow or
> differentiate.

You still missed the point, but it's not all that important to the abortion
issue.  My suggestion about your reading skills stands, however.

> I don't ignore women, and if I said I want women thrown out of the house,
> please post the article where I said that.

I don't archive articles, but not too long ago you posted the suggestion that
pro-life parents throw their daughters out of the house if they got abortions,
did you not?

> Otherwise, I have to just log this as one of the hundreds of lies being
> posted about me, weekly. And the other hundreds of lies (read: "distortions
> of the truth") being posted about Doug Holtsinger, to boot.

I don't have to lie about you, Mr. Chaney.  With you, truth is definitely
stranger than fiction.

-- 
Chris Lyman  /  email: chrisl@pwcs.stpaul.gov  /  #include <std.disclaimers.h>
"No I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should
they be considered patriots.  This is one nation under God."  --  George Bush
Newsgroups: alt.birthright,alt.abortion.inequity,talk.abortion
From: sschilli@nmsu.edu (Sandy Schilling)
Subject: Re: Too many vowels
Keywords: aardvark, Waukeegan, aesthetic
Organization: New Mexico State University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 00:27:49 GMT

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> >yoooouuuu attend is aboouuut to Blooooowww apaaaart at the seeeaaaaammmmss!
> In article 731 of alt.whine:
> >	Woullld someonnnne PLEEEEEASE write a prrrrogrrammmmm that will
> >BEEEEEEP at me whennnnnn my finnngerrrrrs get offfff the HOMMME KEEEYYYS!!!
> In article 732 of alt.whine:
> >Excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee .........
> In article 677 of alt.whine: 
> I hate it when people use too many vowels. Stop it.
 
You used 17.  Not exactly an act of a minimalist.
Or should I say...
Y sd 17.  Nt xctly n ct f mnmlst.

--sndy
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From: yewhin@ecf.toronto.edu (YEW HIN Jimmy)
Subject: Re: Toilet Seats
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:47:14 GMT

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>
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