From: noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring)
Subject: A Poll, Heaven Forbid, of All the Readers of This Newsgroup
Summary: This is the second time around.  Plus some interesting MBTI stats.
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:47:18 GMT

Hello,

I originally posted this a while ago for the reasons that will be outlined
below.  Using the data from the first go around, I put together some
interesting statistics of the distribution of MBTI types, which is attached
after the poll post.

If you "voted" previously, but your answer to either of the two questions
has changed, by all means let me know and I'll correct your answers in my
database.

Have a good week.

Jon Noring

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From: noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring)
Subject: A Poll, Heaven Forbid, of the Readers of This Newsgroup

Hello,

There are two questions that I will periodically ask the readership of this
group:


1) Would you consider supporting the *eventual* move of this group to the
   misc.*, rec.*, or even possibly the sci.* hierarchy?

   One of these hierarchies would be much better than the current alt.*
   newsgroup since many sites do not carry the alt.* groups - the system
   managers at those sites must have strong 'SJ' personalities.  :^)

   As you may or may not know, the requirements to start a group on these
   other hierarchies are quite stringent, including the call for a vote where
   the 'yeas' must number at least 100 *AND* outnumber the 'nos' by 100 (plus
   some other requirements) .

   Thus, before I'd go through the arduous and time-consuming process of a
   formal CFD and CFV, I'd like to already have in place at least 100
   potential 'yea' votes which I hope to accumulate in the next few months.

   Of course, if your answer to this question is now 'yes', that does not
   commit you to vote 'yes' when the real vote comes along, if ever.  Consider
   this a straw poll only and you are free to vote your conscience after you
   carefully consider the arguments from the formal CFD discussion.


2) What is your Myers-Briggs (MBTI) type, if you know it?

   I'd like to see how many here know about, and are interested in, the
   MBTI.  In addition, I will use the statistics to see how the personality
   type distribution of the readers of this group varies from the population-
   at-large averages, a question which has popped up a couple of times already.

   If you don't know your MBTI type, and want to, consider first of all taking
   the test, either the official Myers-Briggs test which your employer or
   career counselor may be authorized to administer, or take the modified test
   (which runs on a PC) that was posted a couple of days ago, or get the book
   "Please Understand Me" by Kiersey and Bates and take the test that is in
   there.  Otherwise, look at the summary of the MBTI which I've posted twice
   to this newsgroup and try to figure out from the given information what is
   your probable personality type.   If you can't find this summary, then
   e-mail me and I'll send it to you.


For answers to both of these questions, please e-mail me only.  Unless you
say otherwise, all the specific information you provide will be kept strictly
confidential and will not be disseminated to anyone else.

I look forward to your answers to these questions.  Please do reply.  Thanks.

Jon Noring

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From: noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring)
Subject: Preliminary Poll Results (Move the group, Myers-Briggs type)

Hello,

A couple of days ago I asked two questions, in a poll-type format.  I got
43 replies so far, both e-mail and posted.

The first question dealt with how many people would *consider* voting for
moving this newsgroup to one of the main (misc,rec,or sci) hierarchies,
if this were ever attempted.  Out of the 43 respondents, 31 said yes,
9 said yes but with certain conditions (e.g., must be sci group, etc.),
and 3 did not answer that question at all.  There were no emphatic 'NO'
votes (as expected).

This number of 'yeas' is nowhere near enough to even consider moving to a
main hierarchy at this time, but it is a very good start.

I do expect the readership of this newsgroup as well as the number of sites
to grow, thus I will periodically repost my original poll questions.
Hopefully, I will find 100+, and preferably 150+ people who will back me up
on the endeavour to move this group to the main hierarchy.


Now for what we've all been waiting for, the results for question two, which
asked what Myers-Briggs type you were.  Out of the 43, 39 stated what they
believed their type to be, 2 did not know, and 2 did not care to know (they
weren't into the MBTI system or did not believe in it).

First let me present the tally for the four scales:

I vs. E:  I (27),  E(8),  X(4)

N vs. S:  N (34),  S(2),  X(3)

T vs. F:  T (30),  F(7),  X(2)

P vs. J:  P (21),  J(16),  X(2)


Second, the tally for the four main types:  NT (25);  NF (7);  SJ (1);  SP(1)
The total does not add up to 39 because the reported 'X' preferences were not
counted.


Some Analysis
*************

It is very clear that the "average" reader who replied to my poll has the
composite MBTI score of INTX (the slightly larger number of P vs. J is not
deemed to be statistically significant).  What is striking is the
preponderance of INT's compared to the general population.  In the general
population:  E's comprise 75% while I's are at 25%;  S's comprise 75% while
N's are at 25%;  T's vs. F's are about split 50-50;  and J's vs. P's are
likewise split 50-50.  Thus, in the general population, INT's comprise only
about 6%, but here it is just about 50% (from the original data not reported
here).

Extrapolating this data to all regular readers of this newsgroup is, of
course, somewhat risky, since those that did not reply *may* score, in
aggregate, different on the four scales, particularly the N vs. S and
T vs. F scales.


So, there's what I got so far.  Now I turn it over to you NT's to analyze
and dissect it to your hearts content.  I look forward to the discussion.

Jon Noring

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-- 

Charter Member of the INFJ Club.

Now, if you're just dying to know what INFJ stands for, be brave, e-mail me,
and I'll send you some information.  It WILL be worth the inquiry, I think.

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