HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ice@socrates.umd.edu (Fredrik Nyman)
Subject: Re: Speed up 3.0 with memory ?
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:14:40 GMT

schmidmeier@evax12.eng.fsu.edu writes:

>In my case (TurboStation, 8MB-RAM) I think an additional 8MB
>schould solve the Problem,  I hope !

>Or should I get an additional 16MB (2x8MB Simms) to add up to
>a total of 24MB ???    Is this worthwile doing ???    Will it
>considerably improve the Performance over the 16MB configuration?

With 12 MB, my cube ran 2.0 very well; windows moved smoothly, and the
only time I had performance problems was when I ran large applications
such as Mathematica.

After I upgraded to 3.0, I noticed the well-known problems with the
machine feeling noticeably slower.  It wasn't that *applications* ran
slower (their speed was about the same), but window and text
operations (moving/resizing/switching windows, scrolling text) was a
*lot* slower.  I figured that the WindowManager had probably grown
quite a bit in size with all the 3.0 additions, so I bought 16 MB
memory.

Sad to say, the extra memory didn't really make any difference in the
perceived speed of window and text operations.  The only noticeable
difference is that I can have Mathematica and a bunch of other apps
open simultaneously without a lot of swapping.

Your mileage may vary...

PS.  I'm still puzzled over *why* the window and text operations are
*so* much slower.  Does anyone know why?
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Recovering ROM monitor password
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:47:20 GMT
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.

In article <1992Oct7.190049.21250@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> coco@cbnewsl.cb.att.com  
(felix.lugo) writes:
> In article <1992Oct7.181323.7221@news.media.mit.edu>  
lacsap@plethora.media.mit.edu (Pascal Chesnais) writes:
> >In article <1ask66INN2ga@ustores.ustores.missouri.edu>  
> >usbill@ustores.ustores.missouri.edu (Bill Canning) writes:
> >> 	Put the battery in the opposite way for 2 or 3 seconds. (Or simply
> >> 	leave it out for a while.)
> >
> >
> >DO NOT DO REVERSE THE BATTERY!!!!  Name me one NeXT document
> >that states this should be done.
> >
> >pasc
> 
> 	Would you care to expand on your comment?  Name me one NeXT document
> that states this should NOT be done?  8^)
> 
> --Felix
> 
> BTW,
> 	I've performed this procedure several times (count 7), and I've
> NEVER experienced any problems with doing this.  Luck?  Maybe, but it works!

Then try reversing the one in your car.  :-)

Play with fire, if you will, but putting the battery in backwards is JUST PLAIN  
WRONG, and potentially WILL destroy your motherboard.  Is the attempt to avoid  
a few extra minutes delay really worth the risk?  

Jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: hsr@cs.Stanford.EDU (Scott Roy)
Subject: Re: How to get local man pages show up like NeXT's in DL?
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:50:08 GMT

Craig Pratt writes

| 
| Anyone know why [local man pages don't have descriptive titles]?
| 

Open a shell window and do an ixbuild -g in /usr/local/man.  The -g switch  
tells ixbuild to automatically create descriptive titles from the  
documents.  Why this option wasn't included in DL is beyond me.

Doing a manual ixbuild -g is also useful to get back descriptions for  
NeXTanswers.

Scott Roy
From: amm@NeXT.COM (Alan M. Marcum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Recovering ROM monitor password
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:08:26 GMT
Reply-To: amm@NeXT.COM (Alan M. Marcum)

Someone asked about eliminating the hardware password.  One
proposal put forward was to reverse the battery for a few
seconds.  This elicited the following response:

> DO NOT DO REVERSE THE BATTERY!!!!  Name me one NeXT document
> that states this should be done.

This response prompted someone else to write:

> Would you care to expand on your comment?  Name me one NeXT document
> that states this should NOT be done?  8^)

I ask the following: just because the documentation DOESN'T say
you shouldn't dump a quart of water into your computer's air
vents, would you think it a reasonable thing to do?  Just because
we didn't write that you shouldn't plug your computer into a 1000
volt power supply, does that mean you should do it?  Just because
we don't explicit remind you not to rm -rf /, does that mean it's
okay to recommend that as a means of fixing an out-of-space
problem?

It's just not possible for us to list all the things that one
should not do.

I'd recommend pretty strongly against inserting the battery
backwards.  One ought to observe current polarity in a sensitive
electronic device.  (Now, it might well NOT damage your computer.
But, just because you CAN extinguish a match in a bucket of
gasoline, and just because you succeeded once in doing it, doesn't
mean it won't explode the next time.)

So, if you need to eliminate the hardware password, remove the
battery and wait until the capacitors discharge (which might take
a couple of hours).  Realize this will also clear out any other
parameters stored in the NVRAM, such as the boot command.
--
Alan M. Marcum
NeXT Tech Support
amm@NeXT.COM

Private P.S. to P.C.: thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B)
Subject: Re: Manipulating tar.Z's
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:15:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.233923.2341@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>  
sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford) writes:
> Anyway, I define the following two aliases:
> alias zcatt 'zcat \!* | tar -tf -'
> alias zcatx 'zcat \!* | tar -xf -'
> 
> Advantage:  I can open a Stuart window on the machine that actually has  
> the hard disk, type zcatt file.tar.Z, and not have to spew the stuff  
> back and forth across the net.  It also doesn't paralyse my workspace  
> while it's crunching away.

Your zcatx is nearly what Opener does.  In my case, of
course, the Archives are NFS mounted (on nova), so
there's a bit of network traffic anyway.

The local users I referred to are people who use sonata
directly, so they don't have to worry about network
traffic either. :-)


You are right that those are useful aliases.  If you use
gnutar, you don't need to pipe from compress (zcat)
either: 

alias zcatt 'gnutar -ztf \!*'
alias zcatx 'gnutar -zxf \!*'

and you might want to stick -v in there too.  I find it
helpful. 

ab
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Printing Book
From: fozztexx@groucho.sonoma.edu (Chris Osborn)
Date: 9 Oct 92 12:52:56 CST
Organization: Sonoma State University

I have a book I'm working on in FrameMaker. All of the pages are
5.5"x8.5". I would like to print it out so that instead of getting one
page in the center of each 8.5"x11", I can get two of them on a sheet.
I'd also like to be able to print them double sided.

Does anyone know of a program that could separate the saved PostScript
from the print panel into two files that look like:

Pages.odd.ps:
	+-----+-----+
	|     |     |
	|     |     |
	|Pg 1 |Pg 3 |
	+-----+-----+
	+-----+-----+
	|     |     |
	|     |     |
	|Pg 5 |Pg 7 |
	+-----+-----+

Pages.even.ps:
	+-----+-----+
	|     |     |
	|     |     |
	|Pg 4 |Pg 2 |
	+-----+-----+
	+-----+-----+
	|     |     |
	|     |     |
	|Pg 8 |Pg 6 |
	+-----+-----+

I have over 250 pages in the book, and I'd like to be able to print it
like this so I can cut it and have it look like it will when I'm finished.

I played last night editing the PostScript that I saved from the print
panel. I manually separated it into two files that would image like I
wanted on screen, but it wouldn't print right.

Alternatively, a program that could load the FrameMaker file and print
it this way would be good too.

Thanks

-- 
Chris Osborn
Napa Valley College
groucho.sonoma.edu!nvcc!fozztexx <- Preferred
fozztexx@groucho.sonoma.edu         NeXTMail ok at both
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: coco@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (felix.lugo)
Subject: Re: *.compressed (Was: Workspace Disk Eject bug: Workaround available from NeXT)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 02:15:34 GMT

In article <HARDY.92Oct10182123@golem.ps.uci.edu> hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy)) writes:
>A related question: the  DiskEjecFix.compressed announced in
>Matt_Watson@NeXT.com's post came with a nics "compressed" tiff. 
>Just clicking on it uncompressed it. Is this a new feature in 3.0
>different from uunix compress,  and how do you make "file.compressed" 
>files? (In case you say RTFM -- I installed 3.0 with a borrowed CD-ROM
>drive, and did not copy all the documentation to disk. When I get my
>CD-ROM-player in November I will certainly RTFM). 
>
>--
>Hardy 
>-----
>Meinhard E. Mayer,  Department of Physics, UC Irvine 
>e-mail: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (preferred) or MMAYER@UCI.BITNET
>

	It's a new feature!  New .compressed files are created by using tar
and compress.  Since Workspace is not capable of recognizing .tar.Z, they
decided to call them .compressed (although .tar_Z, or maybe .tarZ would have
been easily recognizable).

--Felix

BTW,	Workspace also knows about .Z (compressed) files, but not .tar!  8^(

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dave@nakiska.ucs.ualberta.ca (David Ross)
Subject: Re: 3.0 FontPanel acceleration is broken (BUG!!?)
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:43:25 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.123224.1942@gacvx2.gac.edu>  writes:
> 
> I think one of the best places to add a shelf would be on top of the  
save/open  
> panel of applications.  This way it would be a breeze to organize files  
from  
> specific applications/projects.  This is especially useful when you like  
a  
> small save panel and thus can only see two levels of the directory  
hierarchy.
> 
> Michael Ibrahim
> wasfy@nic.gac.edu

Although an interesting idea, this feature can pretty much be accomplished  
now in 3.0 by keeping a File Viewer open, then bringing up and Open/Save  
panel, then dragging an icon from the File Viewer into the O/S panel.  The  
panel will zoom to the location of the icon in the filesystem.  Really  
cool.
--
David A. Ross, Programmer Analyst  | dave@nakiska.ucs.ualberta.ca
Computing and Network Services     |  (NeXTmail welcome)
352 Gen Serv Bldg, Univ of Alberta | Phone: (403) 492-9339
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada  T6G 2H1 | Fax:   (403) 492-1729
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: Recovering ROM monitor password
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:19:04 GMT

coco@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (felix.lugo) writes:

>In article <1992Oct7.181323.7221@news.media.mit.edu> lacsap@plethora.media.mit.edu (Pascal Chesnais) writes:
>>In article <1ask66INN2ga@ustores.ustores.missouri.edu>  
>>usbill@ustores.ustores.missouri.edu (Bill Canning) writes:
>>> 	Put the battery in the opposite way for 2 or 3 seconds. (Or simply
>>> 	leave it out for a while.)
>>
>>
>>DO NOT DO REVERSE THE BATTERY!!!!  Name me one NeXT document
>>that states this should be done.
>>
>>pasc

>	Would you care to expand on your comment?  Name me one NeXT document
>that states this should NOT be done?  8^)

>--Felix

>BTW,
>	I've performed this procedure several times (count 7), and I've
>NEVER experienced any problems with doing this.  Luck?  Maybe, but it works!

It works, but I have heard a couple of NeXT SEs say that this will
void your warranty.  You never know when the diode that prevents
reverse current will fail and fry who knows what.  
MUCH safer to let the capacitor sit and discharge for a few hours on
its own.  
What's your hurry? 
:-)
-- 
David Lemson                                                (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu                UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson 
NeXTMail accepted                                  BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: basiji@stein.u.washington.edu (David Basiji)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: floppy patch needed!
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:22:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct16.042241.14469
Organization: University of Washington

basiji@stein.u.washington.edu (David Basiji) writes:


>Where can I find the patch to allow the reliable ejection of floppies?
>I searched both sonata and cs.orst but couldn't find it.  Is it readily
>available?

>Thanks,
>David Basiji
>basiji@u.washington.edu


Got it from next.com -> /pub/Binaries.

Thanks to all.

Dave
.
From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Dropping bundled applications (was: Re: 3.0 and WriteNow)
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:34:12 GMT
Reply-To: bwebster@pages.com
Organization: Banzai Research Institute

In article <1992Oct2.091430.11860@ITcorp.com> geoff@ITcorp.com (Geoff Kuenning)  
writes:
> I have to confess that I'm more than a bit distressed at NeXT about
> their approach to unbundling.  One of the main reasons I bought a cube
> was because it came with much more software than the competition.

I have no intent or desire to be a NeXT apologist, since I don't get to make  
their business decisions, but their moves make good business sense. When NeXT  
systems were first released, there were few 3rd party productivity apps, so  
NeXT needed to bundle software to make their systems usable out of the box. As  
time goes on, however, bundled software discourages 3rd parties from developing  
competing applications--anyone here old enough to remember the long wait for  
MSWord/Mac, then the long wait for something other than MSWord/Mac?--and it  
keeps system costs high (I assure you that Wolfram Research didn't donate an  
unlimited Mathematica license to NeXT). Given the shift of NeXT sales away from  
education and into corporate/gov't offices, the cost of continuing to bundle  
Mathematica and ACL made no sense. As for WriteNow, it met exactly the same  
fate as MacWrite: was sold off to a third party company (AppSoft), who is  
putting resources into revising and upgrading it that NeXT could never afford. 

Those who complain loud and long about NeXT's announced price for NeXTSTEP-486  
should remember that the price is kept high in part by all the stuff which NeXT  
still has bundled into NS. (On the other hand, given that their development  
system is based on GNU tools, I can't figure out why they charge an extra $1500  
for their "developer version". But that's another discussion.)

The long and short of it: there ain't no such thing as a free lunch.  ..bruce..

Bruce F. Webster
CTO, Pages Software Inc.
bwebster@pages.com
From: hironobu@sra.co.jp (Hironobu Suzuki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: News Readers for NS 3.0 and other bitches
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:12:02 GMT
Organization: Software Research Associates, Inc., Japan
In-reply-to: jchin@prodigy.bc.ca's message of 11 Oct 92 11:13:58 GMT


In article <1992Oct11.111358.19692@prodigy.bc.ca> jchin@prodigy.bc.ca (Joe Chin) writes:
 |But then I found out neither Newsbase 2.1.1 nor NewsGrazer will work! 

I have not only Newsbase but also NewsGrazer.

I have no trouble with NewsGrazer under NS 3.0.  But Newsbase have a
little trouble.  RTF articles that are written under NS3.0 can't read
under NS2.1. I told that problem to Mr. Miyai who is aurthor of
Newsbase.  I guess RTF is not compalibility between NS3.0 and NS2.1.
If you use Newsbase only under NS3.0, you'll have no trouble.

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Hironobu Suzuki                  Software Engineering Laboratory
			Software Research Associates, Inc, Japan.
                   3-12, Yotsuya, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo, 160, JAPAN.
E-Mail: hironobu@sra.co.jp   NeXT-Mail: hironobu@ext247.sra.co.jp 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: cue@apple.com (Eddy Cue)
Subject: Uncompressing .Z files
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 09:11:25 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc

I am trying to uncompress some Next files (.Z) with Opener. All .tar.z
files uncompress fine, but all .z files uncompress to a document. It
doesn't recognize the contents as an application. The original files are on
a DOS disk. Any ideas?

Eddy Cue
cue@apple.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: andrewd@tamsun.tamu.edu (Andrew T Duchowski)
Subject: detex, troff, makeindex...
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 05:42:50 GMT

Hi (this is a 2 parter),

(1)
I'm using latex and the PD TeXmenu.app on my 3.0 and it all
works great except TeXmenu's spell option.  I see that it
wants to use detex, but that was nowhere to be found.  So
I found it on the net, compiled it, but I always get a bus
error when I try to run detex (I've tried detex-2.3, -2.4).

Does anyone have detex working on the next with NS3.0 ('040)?
If so, please let me know how I can get it going.

(2)
In order to read the detex man page, I tried doing the usual
troff -man detex.1l command, but I get the error:
Typesetter busy...
What's the deal with troff?  I don't see any other troff
process via ps -aux, and I've tried rebooting just to make
sure no weird processes were left around after TeXmenu, TeXview,
etc.
Why can't I get troff to execute?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions - please email me.
Andrew

-- 
--   Andrew Duchowski
--   Texas A&M University
--   andrewd@cs.tamu.edu (non-NeXT mail)
--   andrewd@visual2.cs.tamu.edu (NeXT mail)
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Workspace Disk Eject bug: Workaround available from NeXT
Date: 10 Oct 1992 00:30:28 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu


Major Grande Kudos to NeXT for issuing a bug fix between releases!
I feel 100% better about them now.  Make that 200%.

What's more, the fix works.  (I would have been impressed even if 
the fix didn't work, since eventually they'd have to issue a fix
that did.)

However (and the main reason for this post) is that I discovered
that the fix only applies to the user who launched the daemom, since
that daemon changes the defaults database for just that user.  Even
if the user is root.  So, you can put it in /usr/local/bin or maybe
/LocalApps, but you have to have every user run it once to set the
Workspace default.  Or maybe you could write something to go do the
dwrite's automatically.  Or maybe NeXT will make a more global fix.
(I sent this comment to Matt Watson.)

Thanks again to NeXT!

Mark Adler
madler@cco.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: ede978e@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Robert D. Nicholson)
Subject: PSFig18 with compression
Summary: PSFig18 with compression
Organization: Monash University, Caulfield Campus
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 14:34:09 GMT

I am using NextStep 3.0 on a next with dvipsi 5491.

I wish to use the compress feature from psfig18 but
I don't think its working.

Do you need to patch the binary of dvips in the release of
Nextstep.

If anybody has a version of dvips5491 (or better) that supports
compress can you NeXTMAil it to me.

Help, my hard drive needs you :-)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: andrew@cubetech.com
Subject: Re: Sybase - Concept of a User
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:34:39 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.173705.2171@deepthought.uucp> Neil Greene <deepthought!neil@ms.uky.edu> writes:
>I was told a long time ago that Sybase may internally limit the number of  
>simultaneous users based on the license agreement.  (i.e. - a 5 user  
>license will only allow 5 users to access the database at the same time.)  
>
>I was also told that Sybase uses 3 of the 5 users from the Limited Server  
>Edition for internal processes (database writer, etc.).  Leaving only 2  
>users available.  Can someone clarify this, is this true?? 

Not true.  In fact, it appears as if you can have _six_ simultaneous
users running on the limited server:

1> sp_who
2> go
 spid   status     loginame     hostname   blk dbname     cmd
 ------ ---------- ------------ ---------- --- ---------- ----------------
      1 sleeping   andrew       imladris   0   bbs        AWAITING COMMAND
      2 sleeping   sa                      0   master     NETWORK HANDLER
      3 sleeping   sa                      0   master     MIRROR HANDLER
      4 sleeping   sa                      0   master     CHECKPOINT SLEEP
      5 sleeping   andrew       imladris   0   bbs        AWAITING COMMAND
      6 sleeping   andrew       imladris   0   bbs        AWAITING COMMAND
      7 sleeping   andrew       imladris   0   bbs        AWAITING COMMAND
      8 sleeping   andrew       imladris   0   bbs        AWAITING COMMAND
      9 runnable   andrew       imladris   0   bbs        SELECT

(9 rows affected, return status = 0)



andrew
-- 
andrew@cubetech.com     | "We shall not cease from exploration
Andrew Loewenstern      |  And the end of our exploring
Cube Technologies, Inc. |  Will be to arrive where we started
                        |  And know the place for the first time." -T.S. Eliot
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: sra@nxstep.com (Rich Andrews)
Subject: Re: *.compressed (Was: Workspace Disk Eject bug: Workaround available from NeXT)
Organization: U. of Maryland, College Park.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:49:49 GMT

Rod Durham (rdurham@chesapeake.ads.com) wrote:
: 
: Can anyone confirm that Gnu tar is actually used to implement this new
: feature and the new multi-volume floppy backup capability?
: 
: -rod
: 

The workspace does use gnutar: (from my console)

Oct 12 17:36:01 MiniApp[2195]: Cannot exec /usr/bin/gnutar: No such file or directory
Oct 12 17:36:02 MiniApp[2194]: Error while executing /usr/bin/gnutar


Also, if you are interested in file suffixes (from the sound of this thread)
check out your ~/.NeXT/suffixes3_0.wmd

Rich Andrews
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: 72011.10@compuserve.com (Mitch Alland)
MMDF-Warning:  Parse error in original version of preceding line at gate.demon.co.uk
Subject: Cube Swapdisk for sale!
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 00:39:15 +0000

Having sold my Cube, I'm selling off the remaining peripherals and software. 
If you want the original Quantum Swapdisk that I tore out of the Cube when I
installed a Wren 7 please make me an offer and let me have your address.  I'll
ship c.o.d. by second day UPS.

--Mitch
From: ddj+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug DeJulio)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: MouseX under NS 3.0?
Keywords: Xwindows
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:04:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.Bvv0Jn.1rs.2
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1992Oct9.042438.16102@netcom.com> vin@netcom.com (Vin Locke) writes:
>Has anyone been successful in getting the version of MouseX that ran under
>2.x to run under 3.0?  I can't tell if it just doesn't work or if something
>got trashed when I did my upgrade. 

Mine works.  You may have to "chmod a+rw /dev/vid0" to get it to work
again; I think the upgrade changed it.
-- 
Doug DeJulio
ddj+@cmu.edu