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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:19:30 CDT
From:         David E Boyes <dboyes@IS.RICE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: CICS available from TELNET
              92 2:24 pm

> We have an on-line library system that runs on CICS.  I would like to make
> this available to people on the Internet.  I'm running TCP/IP V1 and connect
> to a 4381 via a model1 3172.  I have plans to upgrade to V2.2 of TCP and V3.4
> of VTAM this fall.  Is this possible?

You don't say what library system, but the answer is yes, it's
possible. library.rice.edu is a VSE/ESA guest running under VM/XA
using the NOTIS library package. The guest has a cross-domain
session to VM/VTAM over a VCTC.

TCP access is via a modified telnet server that executes a DIAL
VTAM command automatically. The mods are available from TTUVM1
(Texas Tech University). It works pretty well, although we have
had some problems with recompiling the modules with 2.2 and
non-IBM devices.

Feel free to drop me a note if you're interested in the really
gory details.
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:09:49 CDT
From:         Rick Troth <TROTH@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: VMNFS mounting r/w minidisks

>mount -t nfs vmx:userx.191,rw,pass=xxxxxxxx /usr/users/smithb/mnt
>
>The access on the mount point now becomes drwxrwxrwx such that any
>other users on the unix box can write to my CMS minidisk now.

        One of the many pains with VMNFS.   (not to fault the author(s))

>QUESTION:  I want a r/w mount but dont't want any other uses on my
>           unix box to have r/w access.  Is this a know problem? If
>           so, what is fix status.  Anybody else seen this problem?

        It's a fundamental flaw in NFS.   NFS service is

                from multi-user host with multi-user filesystem

                to multi-user host with multi-user file access

        You run into similar problems when you try to mount a
directory from your Ultrix box on a PC.   The PC is built on single-user
concepts.   NFS servers can't pin all file access from a given  "host"
to a particular UID.   Conversely,  NFS clients can't limit access of a
mounted filesystem to a particular local user.

        We need to borrow from Plan 9.

        We need to borrow from,  or build upon,  AFS.

"Good enough"  isn't.
Rick Troth <TROTH@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>, Rice University, I/S VM Systems Support
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:39:21 PST
From:         Lisa Baas <LBAAS@MSAC.MTSAC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: CICS available from TELNET

>
> You don't say what library system, but the answer is yes, it's
> possible. library.rice.edu is a VSE/ESA guest running under VM/XA
> using the NOTIS library package. The guest has a cross-domain
> session to VM/VTAM over a VCTC.
>
> TCP access is via a modified telnet server that executes a DIAL
> VTAM command automatically. The mods are available from TTUVM1
> (Texas Tech University). It works pretty well, although we have
> had some problems with recompiling the modules with 2.2 and
> non-IBM devices.
>

We're doing the same thing and have been looking for a way to force
Telnet sessions to VTAM. How can we get these mods? Are they FTP'able?

Any info will be much appreciated.

Lisa Baas, Systems Programmer (lbaas@msac.mtsac.edu)
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 10:29:13 PDT
From:         Richard Hintz <OPSRJH@UCCVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: VMNFS mounting r/w minidisks
              8 Sep 1992 12:09:49 CDT from <TROTH@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>

On Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:09:49 CDT Rick Troth said:
...
>        We need to borrow from,  or build upon,  AFS.

I don't recall hearing much on this list about people's use of IFS, an AFS
variant being developed (and now in use) for MVS at the University of
Michigan.  Are other sites using this?  One nice side effect is that it
takes the place of AppleShare file servers.

  Richard Hintz  opsrjh@uccvma.ucop.edu  opsrjh@uccvma
  University of California
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:23:00 EST
From:         KDICKEY@GMR.COM
Subject:      TCP/IP Tranmission Priority?

Hello,

We're running VM TCP/IP 2.2. A majority of the IP traffic out of VM is
from a homegrown printing application that's used to print to our
ethernet attached printers. We also have a fair amount of FTP traffic and
are seeing more and more people using TN3270 or X3270 to get into VM.
Anyways, once and a while I hear complaints of slow screen updates
from TN3270 users, which is probably due to our machine being run
at nearly %100 most of the time. However, I'm also wondering what effect
several print jobs or large FTP file transfers could have on TN3270
performance? Is there any mechanism within TCP/IP such as the SNA
Class of Services that can be used to give Telnet traffic priority
over traffic such as FTP and printing? I'm even thinking about setting
up a separate TCP/IP virtual machine that I could assign a lower VM
priority, and use it strictly for FTP and printing. Any opinions?

Thanks,
Keith A. Dickey            kdickey@cmsa.gmr.com
Advanced Computing Center, Electronic Data Systems
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 11:00:12 EDT
From:         Frank Tompkins <TOMPKINS@AKRONVM.BITNET>
Subject:      MVS TCP/IP 2 and JES2 compatability

Greetings all,

We're an MVS (2.2.3 @ 9004) JES2 (2.2.0) shop currently running version
1 of MVS TCP/IP.  We're about to upgrade to version 2 of MVS TCP/IP with
one of the primary objectives being to let our users submit and retrieve
batch jobs via FTP.

In reivewing some old postings, at least one user had to disable this
facility because it was an "all or nothing" situation with regards to
letting users retrieve output.  I believe this was due to the level of
JES2 they were running.

Can anybody enlighten me on the release interdependencies and security
ramifications of these products (if there are any)?

Thanks!

Oh yea, we're a Top Secret site, and will be running version 4.3 by the
time it matters.
                                     - Frank

*************************************************************************
Frank Tompkins           |   Internet: Tompkins@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU
Systems Programmer       |     Bitnet: Tompkins@AKRONVM
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:59:00 GMT
From:         "Robert G. Moskowitz" <0003858921@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: CICS available from TELNET

>We have an on-line library system that runs on CICS.  I would like to make
>this available to people on the Internet.  I'm running TCP/IP V1 and connect
>to a 4381 via a model1 3172.  I have plans to upgrade to V2.2 of TCP and V3.4
>of VTAM this fall.  Is this possible?


With TN3270 this is simple and direct.  There are some issues about identifing
the CICS applid.  For TELNET this is challenging.  I understand that SIMWARE can
be used to do the VT100 to 3270 conversion on the mainframe, but that looks like
a big cycle sucker to me...

Robert Moskowitz
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 10:49:00 GMT
From:         "Robert G. Moskowitz" <0003858921@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: VMNFS mounting r/w minidisks

On Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:09:49 CDT Rick Troth said:
...
>        We need to borrow from,  or build upon,  AFS.

Richard Hintz replied:

>I don't recall hearing much on this list about people's use of IFS, an AFS
>variant being developed (and now in use) for MVS at the University of
>Michigan.  Are other sites using this?  One nice side effect is that it
>takes the place of AppleShare file servers.

I am going to their Showcase this month.  They hold it the 3rd Thursday of each
month.  Sure sounds interesting.  I was told that IBM will soon be marketing IFS
as a PRPQ.

Robert Moskowitz
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 09:53:56 EST
From:         "Scott (nmi) Mattes" <COTRSSM@SEA04VM.NAVSEA.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Fairwell to network, for now

  Today I will be losing my Internet access, for an unknown length of
time.  This is due to the downsizing of our IBM mainframe and
consolidation of certain applications to another IBM data center.

  So, for the time being at least, I bid farewell to the net. I wish
to thank all those who have helped to enlighten me on various things
(work, religion, eating, etc) while I have had access.

  If anyone needs to contact me, my 'home' and voice addresses will still
work.

  Needless to say (I will anyway) the ANONYMOUS FTP account
(144.11.100.1) is going away also.

--------------------------------------+----------------------------------------
Scott (nmi) Mattes                    | No success can compensate for failure
Work: COTRSSM@SEA04VM.NAVSEA.Navy.Mil | in the home.  David O. McKay, Prophet
Home: 73027.3270@CompuServe.COM       | and President of the Church of Jesus
Voice: (703) 769-2917                 | Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1951-70
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:42:48 EST
From:         Liu <SURU@TWNMOE10.BITNET>
Subject:      any list discussing OSI or IBM related product?

Dear Netter,

    Anybody know of any LIST on the bitnet discussing OSI or
IBM related program product? Thanks.

--Liu
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:41:06 EDT
From:         Ron Lane <RONLANE@YKTVMV.BITNET>
Subject:      re: Abend in XLIB when main program is FORTRAN

>But - correct me if I'm wrong here - the MVS X-Windows support
>doesn't use C Sockets.

>Which means that X should be added to the list of MVS clients that
>can blow you out of the water (like TELNET, FTP, PING and NETSTAT).

First, X Windows does use C Sockets, and therefore uses MVS IUCV.

Second, I think you are implying that VMCF and IUCV don't coexist
well in an MVS Address Space.  They can and do coexist well.
It is true as people use this code for more complex applications,
bugs have been found, and we've fixed them.

There is one area however that is not yet supported, namely
multiple tasks using the MVS VMCF interface within one address space.
This might be what you are implying in your note, but I'm not sure.

Ron Lane
TCP/IP Development
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From: doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell)
Subject: Re: rcp for fal
Organization: Bush in 92 ? NOT!
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:32:33 GMT

gettes@PRINCETON.EDU writes:
: Has anyone attempted an rcp client for the mainframe environment?
: If a server has been done, I would appreciate info on that as well.
: 

Rcp (implemented in the server-end via the rsh server) uses the concept 
of "reserved ports" (ports < 1024, which may only be opened by setuid-
root programs in unix) in conjunction with access  files (/etc/hosts.equiv
and $HOME/.rhosts).  Both ends of the connection must be on ports < 1024,
and it's assumed that programs running setuid-root are considered 'secure',
since Joe Hacker can't build his own RCP and get it to run unless he
gets it set to setuid-root.

This can be compared with rexec, which doesn't require a reserved port
on the client end, but requires a userid-password pair be passed.

Since VM, just like a PC, doesn't restrict who can open local ports < 1024,
you can't assume the program is secure and that the userid being passed
hasn't been tampered with.  This becomes a big security hole.

In addition, the rcp protocol is limited to binary transfer.

To implement a rcp server on the VM end, you'd have to design something
like VM rexecd, adding in the validation of the host or host-user pairs, 
and design it to ignore all commands but "copy files".

The source-code to the unix rsh subroutines and server, with documentation,
are in the book "Unix Network Programming" by W. Richard Stevens (Prentice
Hall, 1990).  I strongly recommend this book for understanding TCP and
UDP from the unix world...
--
Doug Sewell, Tech Support, Computer Center, Youngstown State University
doug@cc.ysu.edu	   doug@ysub.bitnet	<internet>!cc.ysu.edu!doug
"Recession: your friend loses his job.  Depression: you lose your job.
Recovery: Bush loses his job" - Bill Davidsen
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 11:09:00 EDT
From:         Rodney Ferryman <WIZARD@OHSTMVSA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: IUCV SEVER with KILL -9

> I think I may have asked this before, but the problem is getting even
> more irritating. Under some circumstances (and some of these are 100%
> repeatable) when using IUCV sockets on MVS I get an IUCV SEVER with text
> 'KILL -9', "Fatal error in IUCV communication". There is little, if any,
> information (e.g. log) to diagnose what is happening. Are there any
> other socket users out there who are having these SEVERs?

Is this with version 2.2?  I have having this same problem when I try
to start PORTMAP or the DIG and NSLOOKUP commands.

  Rodney
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:33:41 BST
From:         A Grant <AG129@PHOENIX.CAMBRIDGE.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: IUCV SEVER with KILL -9

Apologies to IBM. The details of IUCVMINI etc. have been included in
Appendix A of the new 2.2 MVS Prog. Ref., with no reference to it from
the main text. But better than nothing!

Rodney Ferryman asks if this is with 2.2: no, it's 2.1 at the moment
(without the IUCVMULT fix), but I am not optimistic about it changing.

It is not a multitasking problem. In fact I can reproduce it as the first
IUCV/VMCF use in an address space, i.e. when there is no possibility of
a previous task remnant not having been cleaned up.
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:59:47 -0900
From:         "ORCA::SXCTG" <SXCTG@ALASKA.BITNET>

September 08, 1992
From:   Chris Garris
        University of Alaska Computer Network
        Network Control Office
        303 Tanana Drive
        Fairbanks, Alaska  99775
        ph (907) 474-6313 or 6920

To:     Hank Nusbacher <IBMTCP-L@PUCC.BITNET>

Re:     BTI-ELC-1 Box

Dear Hank:
        Thank you for inquiring about the BTI-ELC-1 box we are offering
        for sale.  I am sorry that it has taken so long but the person
        you contacted, Cal Mercer just gave me a copy of your most recent
        corrospondance of Sept. 6.  I understand you first inquired about
        this box in Jan.!

        We are asking $1,000 for the BTI-ELC-1 motherboard, it works
        as if it were new, we simply upgraded from a BTI-ELC-1 to a 2.

        If you still want it you may purchase it from us.  I don't know
        how you would like to go about it but if you could obtain a
        purchase order from your institution that would likely be the
        easiest route to go.

        We will have some paperwork (Shipper's Export Forms) to fill
        out and I will need talk to customs regarding sending something
        with a declared value of over $1,000.   We routinely ship parts
        and supplies to Russia so I can't see a problem with regulations
        and rules for shipping to Israel.

        You may call me or Laura Letuligasenoa, just ask for Laura L.
        and we can get this going.  I have no idea of the time difference
        between here and Israel but we are open Monday through Friday
        from 8am-5pm Alaska Standard Time (1 hour earlier than Pacific
        Standard Time).

        My userid is SXCTG, I'm not sure what mail system you are using
        but you should be able to reach me through e-mail with no
        problem.

        Thank you for your interest and thank you for contacting the
        University of Alaska Statewide System-Computer Network.

        Sincerely,
        Chris Garris
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:48:22 CDT
From:         David E Boyes <dboyes@IS.RICE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: CICS available from TELNET
              92 1:39 pm

> > TCP access is via a modified telnet server that executes a DIAL
> > VTAM command automatically. The mods are available from TTUVM1
> > (Texas Tech University). It works pretty well, although we have
> > had some problems with recompiling the modules with 2.2 and
> > non-IBM devices.
> We're doing the same thing and have been looking for a way to force
> Telnet sessions to VTAM. How can we get these mods? Are they FTP'able?
> Any info will be much appreciated.
> Lisa Baas, Systems Programmer (lbaas@msac.mtsac.edu)

You can get them from LISTSERV@TTUVM1 by doing a GET DIALVTM2
$PACKAGE. There are separate versions for SP/HPO and XA/ESA.
There's also a POP3 server for VM, proxy ARP code for VM, and
some other good stuff.

We had some trouble getting the DIAL VTAM mod to coexist with the
Lippke BTI driver and eventually just dedicated our crufty old
real IBM 8232 to the project and let it go. If someone gets it
working with the Lippke BTI driver, please let us know -- we'd
like to use it too.
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 10:46:12 EDT
From:         Ron Lane <RONLANE@YKTVMV.BITNET>
Subject:      re: MVS TCP/IP 2 and JES2 compatability

>In reivewing some old postings, at least one user had to disable this
>facility because it was an "all or nothing" situation with regards to
>letting users retrieve output.  I believe this was due to the level of
>JES2 they were running.

>Oh yea, we're a Top Secret site, and will be running version 4.3 by the
>time it matters.

There is a problem with Top Secret and FTP job submission, because
Top Secret gets the userid's authority at close of the internal reader,
while RACF does not.  In the 2.1 and 2.2 versions, the open of the
internal reader runs under the userid's authority, but at close
time it runs under FTP's authority.  The Top Secret people are aware
of this problem.  In an upcoming release, we will also run under
userid's authority at close time, and this could solve the Top Secret
problem.

Ron Lane
TCP/IP Development
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From: fillmore@emr1.emr.ca (Bob Fillmore 992-2832)
Subject: SAS macros for TCP/IP SMF records?
Organization: Energy, Mines, and Resources, Ottawa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:33:21 GMT

Has anyone coded up some SAS macros to decode the SMF records
written by TCP/IP V2R2 on MVS?

Also, does anyone know where to get MVS/ESA versions of the Merril's 
SAS macros?

Thanks for any help.

-- 
Bob Fillmore, Technical Services Division          email: fillmore@emr.ca
  Information Management Branch,                   BIX:   bfillmore      
  Energy, Mines, & Resources Canada                Voice: (613) 992-2832
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From: msg@csn.org (Michael Barton)
Subject: Abend in XLIB when main program is FORTRAN
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:57:23 GMT

We have a FORTRAN main program, which calls a FORTRAN subroutine, which
in turn calls our own C subroutine (to get the FORTRAN->C linkage correct)
which in turn calls the XLIB.

This works great until we make a call to XGrGC (Create Graphics Context),
which gives an IBM534I ONCODE 8094 in XGrGC at +110.  All XLIB calls up
to that point (and there were many) worked fine, and a window had opened
on the workstation.

Does anybody have any idea what is going on here?  Any help would be
appreciated.

Michael Barton
mgb@csn.org
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 11:55:00 GMT
From:         "Robert G. Moskowitz" <0003858921@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Route tables

Larry ask:

>This is a general questions regarding how folks are handling route tables on
>workstations if you have more than one gateway or router to get you off of
>your local segment.

.
.
.

>Are there any other alternatives? Currently our workstations are using IBM's
>OS/2 TCP/IP,  FTP DOS TCP/IP, Apples TCP/IP, AIX TCP/IP, SUN TCP/IP, HP's
>TCP/IP and Netware's TCP/IP.

PCTP for DOS v 2.1 from FTP/Software allows for multiple default routers.  This
works very well.  All you will have to do is list both routers in the PCTCP.INI
file and let the software keep track of which router is available.

Robert Moskowitz
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 11:09:27 EDT
From: James Justice <JAY@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>
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Subject: Re: MVS Gopher

Does anyone know of an implementation of GOPHER for IBM's OS/2 TCP/IP.
I have discovered a lot of interest in such a product.  I have interest
in both client and server!
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Date:         Sun, 6 Sep 1992 10:48:56 IST
From:         Hank Nussbacher <HANK@VM.BIU.AC.IL>
Subject:      Looking for used BTI ELC boxes

I remember seeing someone offer a used BTI ELC here a while back.  Anyone
still have a box or two for sale?

Thanks,
Hank
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 11:01:31 EDT
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From:         FTK01@ALBNYDH2.BITNET
Subject:      3172 problem

A few weeks ago I asked about a problem with IBM 3172s showing a 1985 error.
As a result of the error, TCP/IP on VM would drop the connection to the 3172
box and TCP/IP users would be hung. We had, at 3172 support's suggestion,
already replaced the channel interface card and 'Y' cable.

After the last failure, I got two calls from support, one as a result of our
SE following up and one, I think, as a result of the question to the list.

Three changes in our 3172 configuration were suggested. Suggestion one
involved installing some 3172 code fixes that weren't directly related to the
problem. Suggestion two was to eliminate the multicast address we had coded in
the 3172 configuration since we didn't need it. Suggestion three was changing
the channel speed in the 3172 configuration from 3 megabytes per second to 2
megabytes per second.

Because of the pressure to make the box work, all three changes were made at
the same time. Since the changes were made, the box has worked without failing
(almost 4 weeks) compared to its prior once a week failure. Based on my
conversation with IBM 3172 support, I think that the change from 3M to 2M was
the key.

We've got a 3084 and support said that other sites running 3084s were having
similar problems with 3172s. When the other 3084 sites dropped the channel
speed, the problem went away. Support says that a channel overrun condition is
occurring and that the problem is in the 3084 I/O system. They aren't aware of
any fixes being developed for the problem. Since the 2 megabytes is faster
than our 10 megabit ethernet speed, IBM doesn't think that performance will be
affected.

* Frank Kuwik                              *
* NYS Health Department, Albany, New York  *
* (518) 473-1809                           *
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