HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Newsgroups: alt.evil

In alt.evil, flame@hell.edu (Mephistopholes) writes:

> PEEVES:
> 
> "If I was a loser, I would have a .sig too!"
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 	That is exactly why you are a loser, and not very evil.
	You do not know how to make a good sig file, thats really
	evil!!  But in time you'll learn........................
Morty
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: alt.evil
Subject: Evil cartoons for sale
Date: 24 Dec 1992 10:43:08 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: tsunami.berkeley.edu

Get your kicks out of sadistic graphics?  Scope out the disturbed world of
Japanese comics, with English subtitles, for ONE DOLLAR.  Written by 
Maruo Suehiro, the man has some of the most violent/evil pictures to offer
on the planet.  I am selling off copies of his out-of-print works.
If interested, send $1 w/ a self-addressed, stamped envelope to:

Henry Robertson
2206 Durant Ave. #5
Berkeley, CA 94704
USA

And you won't regret it.  If you would like to see a complete catalog, feel
free to contact me by e-mail; I'm selling for 10 cents/page domestic.

Newsgroups: alt.evil
From: mjann@hotcity.COM (Maureen Jann)
Newsgroups: alt.evil
Subject: Evil
Date: 22 Dec 92 09:35:47 PST
Organization: BBS

Do you thik that witchcraft is evil, Even though it is a religiion..?
                                        \c2;)KaWsMiCkE(;
Newsgroups: alt.evil
From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari)
Subject: Re: Witchcraft
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 02:23:40 GMT

In article <mjann.2i1x@hotcity.COM> mjann@hotcity.COM (Maureen Jann) writes:
>Would you say that witchcraft would be considered EVIL? 
>                        \c2 Me


	No, just stupid.


	<I assume you mean "wicca">

-- 
	Blaming "society" for your problems is like blaming clouds for rain.
         ---  boycott == censorship == closed mindedness == cowardice  ---
	      "Psalms 23:1  The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want."  
		Shepherds are for sheep.   -----      Pain teaches.
Newsgroups: alt.evil
From: matmcinn@nuscc.nus.sg (MAWENZI lieutenant of Kibo)
Subject: Re: test article
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 04:59:23 GMT

satan@wpi.WPI.EDU (Mephistopholes) writes:
: In article <1993Jan2.042818.19497@nuscc.nus.sg> matmcinn@nuscc.nus.sg (Brett McInnes) writes:
: >mikem@nntp.telxon.com (Michael Molnar) writes:
: >: This is a testicle.  Please ignore.
:              ^^^^^^^^
: 
: and how is it that you think we could ignore a loose testicle
: roaming freely aroung the news group.  This is an atrocity. its inhumane!
: i like it. 
: 
: - satan
: 
: 
: 
: -- 
: *******************************************************************************
: * satan@wpi *
: *           * my lips may promise, but my heart is a whore - nin
: *******************************************************************************
From: chris.sokol@factory.com (Chris Sokol) 
Newsgroups: alt.evil
Subject: Re: nature of man
Date: 26 Dec 92 19:46:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-8298v.32bis
Reply-To: chris.sokol@factory.com (Chris Sokol) 

In article <1h03j9INNjap#network.ucsd.edu>, triley@weber.ucsd.edu (Tristan Riley

[stuff not related to what I have to say deleted]

TR>mean bepenised humans, why not try inclusion?  yeah, yeah, i
TR>anticipate some ravings about "pcthispcthat" coming my way as i write this
TR>and it makes me really feel for any sad beings who could be so
TR>threatened by the idea that they might be asked to include the other
TR>half of the world when they speak/write.  it's all so unfair, huh?

Of course it's unfair.  That's what makes it so much fun.  Everything is
fair on all the other planets of this solar system, and every other celestial
body known.  So, to make everything fair, all we have to do is eliminate life,
right?
---
 . SLMR 2.1a . A)bort, R)etry, I)gnore, S)mash?
                                                                                                                           
Newsgroups: alt.evil
From: BPHEINTZ@UCSVAX (BRADLEY P HEINTZ)
Subject: Evil - what else?
Organization: Ancient Illuminated Seers of Bavaria
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:56:01 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

Well, it looks like Riley would rather stick her head back in her shell
rather than stick her neck out and take a philosophical stand.  I guess
name-calling and vague threats are the best some folks can do.  Too bad,
I can't think of too many things more evil than subjecting dozens, 
hundreds, perhaps thousands of innocent net users to the political ravings
of two extremists such as Riley and myself.  Too bad she's a coward.

Still political, still evil,

- Brad

*=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
Illuminatus Primus 1:  If all are one, all violence is masochism.
Illuminatus Primus 2:  If all are one, all sex is masturbation.

bpheintz@phobos.ucc.umass.edu
Your mother's an astronaut.
From: crazed@anarky.tch.org (Crazed One)
Newsgroups: alt.evil
Subject: Re: Merry Christmas!!!
Date: 30 Dec 92 16:48:54 GMT
Organization: The Canned Ham, San Jose, CA.

nv91-ran@hemul.nada.kth.se (Roger Andersson) writes:

> HAHAHA, I sent this message FIVE days TOO LATE,
> thats what I call EVIL!

This message is sent even later.  O >=)''''

CO
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 30 Dec 1992 15:33:08 CST
From: <U30633@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.evil
Subject:    Deviant

Those were hot episodes.  I'm still cumming.

Joel
Newsgroups: alt.evil,talk.abortion
From: patrick@is.rice.edu (The Old Man Down the Road)
Subject: Re: This newsgroup really IS pathetic!
Organization: Beats me.  I just work here.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:25:41 GMT


[I thought the t.a audience would be interested in seeing what our own
Reverend DODie is up to in alt.evil.  This guy's a hoot.  --PLH]

In article <1992Dec22.170929.22285@ncsu.edu> dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:

   In article <1992Dec21.193347.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> 
   rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:

   > Since when has alt.evil been a forum for accusations of immorality
   > in other posters? Isn't that the POINT?

   Of course, I'm pointing out Patrick Humphrey's evil nature,
   I'm not accusing him of "immorality". 

No, you're just posting what you say is evidence of my "evil nature" -- and
that evidence will get you downtown on Metro, if you have 85 cents to go
with it. :-)

   > I can't think of anything more relevant to alt.evil than propositions
   > of mass rapes, blasting rioters with an M-16, Nazi cremations, etc.

   Now I can see why Patrick Humpty likes this group. 

Dunno about him, but *I* like it because of terminally stupid folks like you,
Reverend.   Excuse the bloody fuck out of me for not sending *you* a
Christmas card this year.

(Oh, well, I guess I can always deliver it in person next summer, when I go
up to see the parents in Kentucky -- they're only five hours from Raleigh,
up I-40, I-77, I-81, US 23, and KY/VA 160...:-)

--PLH, so evil he rides the MS 150 to Austin every year to help those folks
with MS.  Ayup.
--

From: mort@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Mortensen)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 03:24:38 GMT
Subject: Re: Capital Punishment.
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: alt.evil

In alt.evil, triley@weber.ucsd.edu (Tristan Riley) writes:

 	>not at all evil or fun stuff deleted<

        
>  infantile societal analysis  Ohhhhh!!! Triley, I just love it when
you talk so dirty.  And using such big words at your young and stupid  
age.  I'm very pleased, write some more so we can have a great laugh!!
 
Morty 
 
> 
Newsgroups: alt.evil
From: matmcinn@nuscc.nus.sg (Brett McInnes)
Subject: Re: This newsgroup really IS pathetic!
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 04:57:22 GMT

rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
: Since when has alt.evil been a forum for accusations of immorality
: in other posters? Isn't that the POINT?
: 
: I can't think of anything more relevant to alt.evil than propositions
: of mass rapes, blasting rioters with an M-16, Nazi cremations, etc.
: 
: 
Not so loud. There are always a few morons around from whose anguished
entries a considerable amount of amusement can be derived.
From: bt768@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Orville L. Ballard)
Newsgroups: alt.co-ops
Subject: Re: Random Kindness
Date: 30 Dec 1992 14:00:38 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Reminds me of "You can't give away what you don't have."
Newsgroups: alt.co-ops
From: art10477@nusunix1.nus.sg (ANG BOON)
Subject: Re: test
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:08:56 GMT

LIM CHEE SENG (eng10112@nusunix1.nus.sg) wrote:
: Just testing
ALAHMA: 
Newsgroups: alt.co-ops
From: art10477@nusunix1.nus.sg (ANG BOON)
Subject: Re: test
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:04:53 GMT

what is this?
From: art10477@nusunix1.nus.sg (ANG BOON)
Newsgroups: alt.co-ops
Subject: Re: test
Date: 21 Dec 92 14:16:50 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

hey
Newsgroups: alt.co-ops
From: hank@well.sf.ca.us (Hank Roberts)
Subject: Re: Random Kindness
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 00:44:38 GMT


By the way, Anne Herbert (originator of the meme) is alive and well in
the SF Bay Area; I met her in Berkeley last month and she grinned at
hearing that 'Random Kindness' is making its way around the Internet.
She's still _occasionally_ but _irregularly_ reachable at the PO Box
given on the bumper stickers.
From: bafta@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (dragon-monster)
Newsgroups: alt.co-ops
Subject: the day after Xmas
Keywords: LA riots, free enterprise zone, co-ops
Date: 31 Dec 92 02:37:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California - Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


I was watching the news at my mom's house in Southern California, and there
was a rally in the riot-torn part of LA that is (supposedly) getting rebuilt.
Apparently someone (I have not been following this) has proposed that a
tax-free "free enterprise zone" be set up, and the rally was staged to
show the community united against the idea.

One of the speakers proposed co-operative businesses be set up as an 
alternative to the free-enterprise zone.  It was the first time I have ever
heard of co-operative business getting any attention on the television
news.  There seemed to be a lot of support for the idea, too.


-- 
 the one, the only, the big n growly  |  If one blows fire against the wind,
 Dragon Monster!  Rawr! Rawr! Rawr!   |   one must take care not to get the
========>bafta@ucscb.ucsc.edu<========|         smoke in one's eyes.
From: mhatter@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: MEC
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 17:14:51 PST
Reply-To: mhatter@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

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Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: gclarkii@NeoSoft.com (Gary Clark II)
Subject: the hard way
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 05:03:08 GMT


Anyone know of a decent source of info on the BSD kernel?  I have the devil
book so....

Obhack:  Modifing(sic) coherent 3.1 to take 4800 baud with out dieing...
From: jgm@cs.brown.edu (Jonathan Monsarrat)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Re: ps to ascii?
Date: 22 Dec 92 09:53:08
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Brown University
NNTP-Posting-Host: vegas.cs.brown.edu
In-reply-to: holland@matt.ksu.ksu.edu's message of 4 Dec 1992 07:44:52 -0600


> converting PS documents to vanilla ASCII.

Use this or use gs2_asc from GhostScript. I have a copy of gs2asc if
you need one. There is a newsgroup comp.lang.postscript (and a FAQ)
for such things.

There is a PostScript programming contest going on for hackers. Check
it out in wilma.cs.brown.edu:pub/postscript/rules.ps  (or rules.txt)

-Jon
%! Jon Monsarrat   jgm@cs.brown.edu   Brown University %! ObHack PostScript:
(LcHdBidZi_hdQ6[PaVa1b4c6F"J4b/>$O<)(di_zk{:UFfUg;ABF)(2n>]Eh:u?<)(P"M#R\(:$T<)
([gXfSZ]f\\dZbeZeb^fH;`?dR=ZS7)(K P!U!: H<)(9l9cCf:o?$)(7W4]6`:X;=)(U"W#_%:"R-)
(A 5"<&Y%K"F"M,M,S\)i3e.M5F_PZR9>lP-)(wBxEuEs7x;uBq:q<q>hFh7o:=Nj<)(Z#]#b#:$R-)
(m+m+k3S!R+d,;"^<)(GFP\\RamZf;TAP{X{fd<{C7)(4840N2:6N=)([ Z#^&:!c<)(<%?$C$:#8<)
(D!J"L#:!B<)/a{def}def/M{exch}a/S{repeat}a/Q{{40 add}if}a 18{{}forall/R M a/x 2
/y 3/z 5 3{R M mod 1 eq a}S x Q M y Q moveto 57 sub{3{y Q M x Q M 6 2 roll}S
curveto}S z{fill}{stroke}ifelse}S showpage


#! /usr/local/bin/perl -P
########################################################
# ps2ascii: look through a PostScript file for ASCII strings
#
# Usage:
#     ps2ascii <inputfile.ps>
#
########################################################

$out = "";
while(<>)
{
  $line = $_;
  while($line =~/\((.*)\)(.*)/) {
       $line = $2;
       if(length($out)+length($1) > 76) {
         print "$out\n";
         $out="";
       }
       $out=$out." ".$1;
  }
}
print "$out\n";
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: eirik@elf.TN.Cornell.EDU (Eirik Fuller)
Subject: stripslash
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 03:06:36 GMT

My previous posting contained an adb hack which fixes an annoying bug
in subsequently built kernels.  It was only after I devised this patch
that it occurred to me that it was just as easy to patch the kernel
itself, and that there is no need to build a new kernel, or even
reboot.  Maybe it's past due time for sleep ... anyway, I poked around
some more, and discovered that only one function, au_lookuppn, seems
to call the function named stripslash, so I poked a couple of nops
into it.  That also seems to fix the bug.  I doubt the second nop is
necessary, but what the hey ...


21:39:53 # ls -ldg /bin/
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root     wheel           7 Nov 28 22:27 /bin/ -> usr/bin
21:39:56 # adb -w -k /vmunix /dev/mem
physmem 1bfd
au_lookuppn/4i
_au_lookuppn:
_au_lookuppn:	save	%sp, -0x170, %sp
		st	%i3, [%fp + 0x50]
		call	_stripslash
		mov	%i0, %o0
au_lookuppn+8 /W 0x1000000 0x1000000
_au_lookuppn+8: 0x40000192      =       0x1000000
_au_lookuppn+0xc:               0x90100018      =       0x1000000
au_lookuppn/4i
_au_lookuppn:
_au_lookuppn:   save    %sp, -0x170, %sp
                st      %i3, [%fp + 0x50]
                nop
                nop
21:44:57 # ls -ldg /bin/
drwxr-sr-x  3 bin      staff        4608 Nov 24 16:14 /bin/
21:45:08 # 
Newsgroups: alt.hackers,news.admin.misc
From: chisnall@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz (The Technicolour Throw-up)
Subject: Huh? (Re: Articles rejected at news.uu.net during the past week)
Organization: Computer Science,University of Canterbury,New Zealand
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 02:31:54 GMT

From article <1hn5o5INNo9e@rodan.UU.NET>, by rsalz@rodan.UU.NET (Rich Salz):
> The articles listed below were rejected by InterNetNews at news.uu.net during
> the past week because they do not conform to standard interpretation of
> Internet RFCs 822 and 1036.  They are probably being rejected by other
> standards-conforming sites as well.  A total of 90399 articles were
> accepted during this time.
>
> [...]
> 
> Unapproved articles posted to a moderated group:
> [...]
> <3VT1VB3w165w@tld.entropy.mcds.com> alt.hackers
> [...]

Can someone explain this one to me?
--
Just my two rubber ningis worth.
Name: Michael Chisnall  (chisnall@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz)
I'm not a .signature virus and nor do I play one on tv.
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: cae@davidge.com (Caleb Epstein)
Subject: Re: Why so simple?
Organization: Davidge Data Systems Corp., NYC, NY
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 13:26:11 GMT

matth@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Matthew Hannigan) writes:
>
>Obhack: extracting bits out of Sun's shared Xmu lib and sticking such
>bit on the compile command line so that I can compile some things
>off the net 'coz part of the dynamic lib seems to be static, and
>wouldn't be found otherwise.
>

	Thats a known bug in, I believe, SunOS 4.1.3.  Call
1-800-USA-4SUN and demand a patch.  I did.

>	-Matt

-- 
[ Caleb Epstein ][ Davidge Data Systems Corp, New York, NY ][ cae@davidge.com ]
[      Someone's definitely jumping into the tub ... with your brother!       ]
From: magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Translators
Date: 25 Dec 92 12:32:15 GMT
Organization: DarkTower Software
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

Hi,

I was wondering if someone could mail me some "translators".  I
have the Jive one, but am especially interested in Swedish Chef or
any other obscure ones.

I know they've been posted here 800 times, so you can attach a flame
to the source code ;)  Or you can post them here again if you think
others still want them.

Thanks---

Obhack:  One of my professors had put a book on reserve that I 
wanted to check out of the library.  Well, the semester is over and he
took off for Mexico and won't be back until next.  So I called the department
and sounded real dumb (not hard for me heh) and asked for the library.
They transfered the call to the library and I told them I was Dr. X and they
could take the book off the reserved list.  The call came up as coming from 
the department he worked in (since it was transferred), so they took
it off reserve and I was able to check it out.  Not much of a hack, but
the social engineering aspect is there.


--
---------------------------------------------------------
 Louis J. Giliberto, Jr.   ! magus@drktowr.chi.il.us
   -sysadmin drktowr       ! lgilibe@orion.it.luc.edu
  Chicago, IL  USA         ! 
---------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: eirik@elf.TN.Cornell.EDU (Eirik Fuller)
Subject: stripslash
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 01:20:47 GMT

I first installed SunOS 4.1.3 during a CPU upgrade; the newer CPU,
unlike the older one, is not constrained, by obsolescence, to SunOS
4.1.1, though I think it is constrained by a slightly different sort
of obsolescence to 4.1.3, or at best any subsequent 4.1.? releases.
Not that I'd ever want to run Solaris 2 ...

One goal in installing 4.1.3 was to shrink the number of applicable
patches.  Perhaps this goal is misguided; after all, a smaller number
of patches for an equal number of bugs might not be the best thing to
have.  However, I was driven in part by a naive hope that the number
of stale old bugs which had been fixed was larger than the number of
new bugs.

As it happens, I did find one especially annoying new "feature" of
SunOS 4.1.3, one which, among other things, invalidated a GNU emacs
primitive (file-name-as-directory).  I was on the verge of deciding to
retrograde to 4.1.2 (and upgrade our 4.1.1 machines only to 4.1.2),
when a stubborn streak set in.  After some poking around, I came up
with this:


19:34:53 $ adb -w vfs_lookup.o 
stripslash?3i
_stripslash:
_stripslash:	ld	[%o0 + 0x8], %o2
		cmp	%o2, 0x1
		blu	_stripslash + 0x64
stripslash+0x64?i
_stripslash+0x64:		jmp	%o7 + 0x8
stripslash+0x64?X
_stripslash+0x64:		81c3e008
stripslash?W 0x81c3e008
_stripslash:	0xd4022008	=	0x81c3e008
?i
_stripslash:
_stripslash:	jmp	%o7 + 0x8
19:36:13 $ 


Note that the symbol stripslash does not exist in 4.1.1 or 4.1.2
kernels, only (from what I've seen) in 4.1.3 kernels.  What this
means, I think, is that any kernel code that calls it should now work
the same way as the earlier kernel code that didn't call it, except
for the small overhead of calling the newly defined noop.

I can't for the life of me imagine what "problem" this stripslash
function is supposed to "fix" ... it seems more likely that a Sun
employee by the name of Murphy knew it would annoy me.  :-)

Left as an exercise: chase down the callers of this function and patch
them not to call it.  :-)
From: merlin@neuro.usc.edu (merlin)
Newsgroups: alt.hackers
Subject: Re: the hard way
Date: 24 Dec 1992 00:41:06 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: neuro.usc.edu

In article <BznA19.H17@NeoSoft.com> gclarkii@NeoSoft.com (Gary Clark II) writes:
>Anyone know of a decent source of info on the BSD kernel?  I have the devil
>book so....

ftp the entire source code and binaries for a fukl working copy of Intel '386
based bsd unix from agate.berkeley.edu -- under the directory 386bsd-0.1

Merlin                        Never let it be forgot
The Magician                  That there once was a spot
King Arthur's Court           For one brief shining moment
Camelot                       That was known as Camelot









Newsgroups: alt.hackers
From: wdp@gagme.chi.il.us (Bill Pfeiffer)
Subject: WATNED: source for 'Swedish chef" "mumble" and similar programs
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 06:24:23 GMT

Seeking source code for the above named 'text changing' programs and other
similar stuff.  I just got 'jive' and really like it.

Please e-mail, I am pretty busy these days and it is hard to read
news as often as I would like :-(.

Take care.

Bill

Newsgroups: alt.education.disabled
From: patth@sci.ccny.cuny.edu (Patt Bromberger)
Subject: school programs as products?
Followup-To: alt.education.disabled,misc.handicap 
Reply-To: patth@sci.ccny.cuny.edu (Patt Bromberger)
Organization: City College of New York - Science Computing Facility
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 18:35:33 GMT

Reposted
From BLIND-L@UAFSYSB.UARK.EDU Thu Dec 31 09:26:51 1992
Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 09:23:08 EST
Reply-To: Computer Use by and for the Blind <BLIND-L@UAFSYSB.UARK.EDU>
From: "A. Kaniss" <dashiell@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Talking Books, Electronic Textbooks, Etc.

A school's program is a product.  If it were not so, what are all the
taxpayer's paying for?  So in some cases the a.d.a. does require
 accessible/useable
products.  Some can argue that the product of schools is what comes
out of them at graduation time or drop out time.  This being said, I would
argue that other products were used as part of the manufacturing process and
 those other
products are required to be accessible under the a.d.a.

jude <dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil>

-- 
Patricia Ann Bromberger                      patth@sci.ccny.cuny.edu  
	           	        	or	patth@ccnysci.BITNET
"There's no place like home!"  -- Dorothy, "The Wizard of Oz"
Newsgroups: alt.education.disabled