From: krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us (D. 'krikket' Krick)
Newsgroups: alt.sexual.abuse.recovery
Subject: Re: If you're going to see "Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me"....
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:56:55 GMT
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

WARNING:  Opnions are going to be expressed in this message that many may
(will) disagree with...  To prevent a flame war from occuring, let's take it to
Email after this message.  But I am expressing honest opnions about things that
have HELPED me in the past!

In article <408@asylum.UUCP>, sandro@asylum.UUCP (Sandro Wallach) writes:
>This movie should have a big sticker on it: "Warning: contains scenes
>of explicit incest, rape, and other sexual and emotional violence."

Sexual and emotional violence, yes.  Incest and rape, possibly.  (I didn't see
any when I watched this movie, but I did walk out when a scene was approaching
that looked like an incestual rape was going to occur....)

>I'll explain a little.  I'm not going to give away anything about the
>plot or details of what it contained.  That is, this posting does not
>contain spoilers in the original sense of spoiling a mystery, nor in
>the asar sense of warnings.
>
>I guess I should have known, since it is by David Lynch.  Maybe I did
>know what I was getting myself into, and some part of me decided it
>would be *good* to see this stuff.  Ouch.  It hurt a lot.  I managed
>to get up and walk out for a few seconds, but then I went right back
>in....

Agreed!

>And it was *not* hitting my buttons right on.  The characters were
>nothing like my family, in gender, age, personality, or looks.  But it
>was still overpowering at times.  I guess Lynch knows how to make a
>good movie, or something.  (If the genders and ages had been closer to
>mine, I think I would have had to leave immediately.)
>
>On the plus side, I thought the portrayed survivoral and recovery
>efforts were far more accurate than I've seen in a Hollywood
>production.  Maybe that's why it hurt so much.  For that, I guess I'm
>glad I saw the movie.  But then, it's hard to undo, so I might as well
>accept it, or something.

IMHO:  To continue with your live you (generic you in both cases!) have to
accept what happened.  Once again, IMHO only!

>Anyway, I just thought I should warn everyone here not to do something
>as stupid as I did.  If you're familiar with Lynch's work (I saw Blue
>Velvet a long time ago), and Twin Peaks (never seen it), you may be in
>a better position to know what you're getting yourself into.  If you
>want to go but think it might be dangerous, maybe go with someone
>who'll understand and wont mind leaving with you in the middle if you
>have to, or at least who wont worry inappropriately if you do leave.
>
>       -- sandro (sandro@ELF.com)

Not a bad idea.

I just thought that I would point out something that happened to me earlier in
my life.

(Standard Disclaimer:  I was *NOT* sexually abused, but I had nightmares from
seeing what happened to (several different) SO's (I was dumped than foung
another SO, etc...) )

There was a play in Chicago, called "Sex Boy".  It was a serious play about a
man who was born, raised, grew up, and suicided.  (Completely fictional, BTW)

In the show, there were no unwilling violent sexual acts, but the tone of the
entire show was much more serious and threatining (and just INTENSE) than the
Twin Peaks movie.

I walked out of the show on several occasions.  (Sometimes through the back
dorr that only theatre personelle were supposed to use. (I also helped out at
the theatre, so that was O.K.))

This freaked a number of the actors out, and I explained that I just couldn't
handle it.

But I made myself go back.

I watched the show again.  And left.  Next week I tries yet again.

This time I was able to sit through the entire thing.

Then I went back yet again, and it wasn't as painfull.

I kept doing this.  Forcing myself to face those fears and problems that I was
having at the time.

This helped a LOT.  It stopped my nightmares early on.

Because of this, and because of what I saw from a molestation survivor that
works there, and a role that he created in a comedy, I have come to beleive
that this sort of movie can be very GOOD to watch.

(NOTE:  My mom, a Psych going for her Ph.D. as I type this, strongly disagrees
with me on this one...  I was going to mention this subject earlier on, but
then realized that perhaps I would be inadvertantly hurting someone who read
ASAR.  So I deleted the message *REAL FAST*.  Hence, the request to take this
to Email, if I'm about to provoke a holy war...  I hope not, but...)

Once again, take this entire message as merely my opnion!  And I would most
definately like to hear what some other people have to say on this subject!!!

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