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Subject:      Lingua(?) cursor problem
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I don't know if this has ever been mentioned since I haven't been on the
list that long, but here's an ailment that requires a cure.  I use Lingua
with a French Canadian keyboard layout--I find it more convenient for
accented characters than the CTRL-ALT-[SHIFT]-KEY combination.  Occassionally,
after entering an accented key (doesn't matter what it is), the cursor will
skip to the beginning of the next line and park itself there.  Typing places
text at the end of the previous line (where it ought to be) and backspacing
deletes text from the previous line.  In other words, although the cursor
appears in column one of the next line, it acts as though it were in the
proper place, except when I enter CTRL-BKSPC which has the disastrous effect
of deleting all but the previous word.  I'm not kidding:  the entire document
is erased except one word which appears at column 1 / row 1, the word I
wanted to delete!  A minor problem is the addition of untyped characters
after entering an accented character.  For example, typing / (for e acute)
may result in the accented e as well as another random character.  As far
as the cursor problem is concerned, I've been unable to do anything to
cure the problem except close and reopen the document--a tremendous waste
of time. Suggestions, anyone?

Paul Caron                              G9026163@SSCvax.CIS.McMaster.CA
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Another reason to keep NB 3 around after installing NB 4 is that at least
some of the customization you may have done in NB 3 can be copied over--e.g.,
sections of the keyboard table.  It is hard to tell just which customized
features you want to transfer, or how to do it, until you have started to
use NB4--so it is handy to be able to call your old nb.kbd, startup.ing,
default.set, etc., to the screen for reference.

John Berg
j.berg@acad.suffolk.edu
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Thanks to Frederik Pedersen, the XXencoded nb4def unwrapped OK.

j-p takala
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From:         "J-P Takala, University of Helsinki,
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I wrote an XPL program to help in manual insertion of conditional
hyphens.  I did it with Finnish in mind, but I thought it might be
useful for any language for which NB lacks hyphenation support.  The
program looks for 'long' (user definable) unhyphenated strings at line
beginnings and drops the cursor there.  The user then can insert a
hyphen right there, or first move about with cursor keys, or leave the
word as is, and the pgm moves on (unless told to quit).  The exact
character to put the cursor on is determined by a procedure simulating
Finnish hyphenation rules.  This part, however, can easily be stripped
(for somewhat faster performance) or replaced by other rules.

I'd be glad to send this program to anyone insterested.

J-P Takala

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My problem with modifying the bold video setting in NB3 persists.
Nonetheless thanks to Odeda and Mervyn for their suggestions.

I jiggered the brightness and contrast settings with small hope and no
results.  The hope was small because I had tried for black on grey, white on
grey and flashing settings in my despair, and surely these should have shown
wherever those knobs stood.  I looked up--as per Mervyn's note--all default
files and found no other default.sets.  Just to be compulsive about it, I
copied and deleted all default files but default.set.  Nothing helped.

In the course of all this, I loaded some of my old default files with other
video settings and these took effect.  My puzzlement remains, but it is
obviously a problem I can live with.  Still, I would welcome any further
advice anyone has.

Thanks again.

Peter Parisi, Humanities, Penn State Harrisburg (pxp8@psuvm.edu)
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:47:27 CST
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Subject: Re: Fractal image compression
              93 1:12 pm

Fractal Image Compression, Barnsley and Hurd, is now in print. You can
get it for 39.95 through the Library of Science, PO Box 502, Riverside
NJ 08370-0502, USA. Please mention my name, so that I get a bonus
book. [David Fowler]. While you are at it, you should also get Genetic
Programming, John Koza, and Complexity, M.M. Waldorp...
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On Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:51:14 MET Juan Gregorio de las Heras
(juangre@ES.UB.CERBER) said:

>
>In a past article Robert D. Black talk about a newsgroup called
> comp.theory.dynamic-sys.
>
>Please, could inform us how to connect to this newsgroup.
>
>Thank you


You can reach that grour through USENET.
Ask your computer centre if they have the facility.
I hope it helps

Gabriel
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From:         Jin Xuecheng <jxc@MICKEY.EE.NUS.SG>
Subject:      ask for images

Dear friends:

        How can I get images(512x512x256) with known fractal dimension
(FD=2.1, 2,2, ..., 2.9) along with the introduction to the methods
and source code?

        Thanks.

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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 13:12:35 -0500
From:         Chaim Manaster <manaster@YU1.YU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Fractals in special effects for movies

Does anybody know how fractals are used to represent any arbitrary
graphic? In other words we normally go from some mathematical formula
and see the resulting graphic, I basically want to know the inverse
process of going from some arbitrary graphic to the relulting math
formula that encodes it as a frectal.

I believe that  these details are essentially the process in the
Barnsley fractal compression methhodology which I don't know.
However, if I am not mistaken, they have patented the procedure
in which case it is now public knowledge even if you can't use the idea
for free. Anybody know the essense of the idea who can lay it out for
me? I have seen various fractal pictures that must have originated in
this manner (with or without Barnsley compression) and would like to
learn how to capture some painting or photograph as a mathematical
fractal representation.

Thanks in advance for the info.
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From:         Lode Goukens <PS890866@FPSW.UFSIA.AC.BE>
Subject:      Fractals in special effects for movies

Hello,
I'm a journalist and I prepare an article about the use of fractals.
I'm interested in the use for special effects, retouche of photographs, cartoon
s...  If there are other types of use I'd like to know about it also:
Persons who have adresses, photo's, articles... on this subject are invited to
send this to me by e-mail or by post.
My adress is 26 Nachtegaalstraat, Antwerp B2060, Belgium
fax 32 3 2268900
e-mail ps890866 at fpsw.ufsia.ac.be
Thanks in advance.
Lode Goukens
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              2:26pm)

hi,
thanks for the news of John's FRAC'cetera (sp).

Do you know if there is any way to get a sample through the internet?
thanks
patrick



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From:         Hal Harris <C1754@UMSLVAXA.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Fractals in special effects for movies

Henry Manaster might find material of interest in a chapter entitled
"Making Chaotic Dynamical Systems to Order" by Michael F. Barnsley in
Chaotic Dynamics and Fractals by Barnsley and Demko, Academic Press 1986.
That article includes several references, most of which, unfortunately,
were "in press" at the time of publication.  Nevertheless, you may find
some of them from the following partial citations:
(1) M. F. Barnsley, S. G. Demko, Iterated function systems and the global
construction of fractals, Proc. Roy. Soc. London (in press).
(2) M. F. Barnsley, V. Ervin, D. Hardin, J. Lancaster, Solution of an
inverse problem for fractals and other sets, Georgia Tech Reprint (1984).
(6) S. Demko, L. Hodges, B. Naylor, Construction of fractal objects with
iterated function systems, Proceedings of SIGRAPH 1985.
(7) P. Diaconis, M. Shashahani, Products of random matrices and computer
image generation, Stanford University reprint (1984).
(9) J. Hutchison, fractals and self-similarity, Indiana University
Journal of Math., 30 (1981) 713-747.

I hope this gets you on the track.
Hal Harris                               C1754@umslvaxa.umsl.edu
Department of Chemistry
University of Missouri-St. Louis
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Dear All:

        This is not exactly Fractal related, but has anyone worked with
the Maximum Entropy Method (MEM) of Spectral Estimation.....  It's in
Numerical Recipes (FORTRAN) on Page 400 or so, and it does say that
it (MEM) is finicky but the probelms I am having are ridiculous!!!!

                                Michael D. Aesoph
                                AKA MERLIN
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I WANT TO GET UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS DISCUSSION....CAN U HELP ME TO KNOW THE
COMAND TO DO THAT AS I HAVE DELETED THE FILE BY MISTAKE
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From:         Jin Xuecheng <jxc@MICKEY.EE.NUS.SG>
Subject:      Looking for

Dear Friends:

        How can I contact Dr. Nirupam Sarkar and Prof. B.B.Chaudhuri;
Electronics and Communication Sciences Unit, Indian Statistical Institute,
Calcutta 700035, India;
Authors of "An Efficient Approach to Estimate Fractal Dimension of Textural
Images"?

        Thank you and wish  you a happy new year!

                                                                 Sincerely Yours
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From:         Dave Uherka <UHERKA@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      fractal image compression

Someone recently mentioned the new book, Fractal Image Compression,
by Barnsley and Hurd.  I found the complete reference (listed
below) in Books in Print, but Hurd's first name does not appear.
Do you know his first name?  I want to use it in a bibliography.

   Barnsley, Michael and Hurd, ?, _Fractal Image Compression_,
   Jones and Bartlett (Math Series), July 1992, 228 p.,
   $49.95, (0-86720-457-5)

Dave Uherka
Math Dept, U of ND, USA
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From:         "Robert D. Black" <rdblack@NEUMANN.UWATERLOO.CA>
Subject: Re: fractal image compression

In article <C0Hu08.Mtp@math.uwaterloo.ca> you write:
> Someone recently mentioned the new book, Fractal Image Compression,
> by Barnsley and Hurd.  I found the complete reference (listed
> below) in Books in Print, but Hurd's first name does not appear.
> Do you know his first name?  I want to use it in a bibliography.
>
>    Barnsley, Michael and Hurd, ?, _Fractal Image Compression_,
>    Jones and Bartlett (Math Series), July 1992, 228 p.,
>    $49.95, (0-86720-457-5)
>
> Dave Uherka
> Math Dept, U of ND, USA

His full name is "Lyman Hurd".  Following is an article announcing the
book in the newsgroup comp.theory.dynamic-sys:


In article <9301061849.AA05997@nettlerash.berkeley.edu>, hurd@MATH.GATECH.EDU (L
yman Hurd) writes:
> I am pleased to announce the arrival of the book:
>
> Fractal Image Compression
> by Michael Barnsley and Lyman Hurd.
>
> hardbound 244 pages, 16 color plates
>
>
> A sequel to Fractals Everywhere, Fractal Image Compression describes the
> mathematics underlying the Fractal Transform an image compression method
> discovered by Michael Barnsley and developed at Iterated Systems.  Topics
> include:
>
>   * Iterated Function Systems
>
>   * Local IFS and the Black and White Fractal Transform
>
>   * The Grayscale Fractal Transform
>
>   * Information Theory
>
>   * Huffman codes
>
>   * Arithmetic Codes
>
>   * JPEG Image Compression
>
> Example programs in C are interspersed throughout the text.
>
> Copies can be ordered directly from the publisher by the  following
> methods:
>
> 1) Email: send a message to kpeters@math.harvard.edu with name address and
> a Mastercard or Visa card number WITH EXPIRATION DATE.
>
> 2) Mail: Check or money order or the above credit card information to:
>
> AK Peters, Ltd.
> 289 Linden St.
> Wellesley, MA 02181
>
> 3) Phone (credit card orders) (617) 235-2210 (voice) (617) 235-2404 (fax)
>
> The book is $49.95 including shipping.  Residents of Massachusetts please
> add 5% sales tax.



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Subject:      FRAC'Cetera

Greetings All,

I just got volume 2, issue 5 of Jon Horner's FRAC'Cetera, and it's
wonderful!

I've described FRAC'Cetera several times here, but for new conferees
the essentials follow.

Born on the Channel Island of Guernsey, FRAC'Cetera is an electronic,
or disk based, publication which appears four times a year.
It contains sections on:

Fractals and Chaos
Cellular Automata
Life and Turing Machines
Computer Graphics
Fractal .GIF Gallery
BASIC Programming and Code
Raytracing
Lists of Fractal Merchants
FRACTINT User's Group
Animations.
Fractal Foundary which contains numerous .frm, .par, and map files
for FRACTINT
Large Bibliographies of Books, Articles and Videos
Ken Sherriff's FAQ from the alt.fractal news group on Internet
Timely information from GRAPHDEV forum on CI$

Originally, Jon distributed FRAC'Cetera on DD 3.5" diskettes, now it
needs a HD diskette to contain it. When everything is dearched, this
issue of FRAC'Cetera occupied more than 3.5 megabytes on my harddisk.
It is a mammoth undertaking, but Jon somehow makes each issue better
than the last.

Jon runs HIHO Enterprises, and will soon have the CD of IS BBS
online, thus making all the programs on IS BBS available.

FRAC'Cetera
Le Mont Ardaine
Rue des Ardaines
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Guernsey C.I.
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From:         Juan Gregorio de las Heras <juangre@CERBER.UB.ES>
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              7, 93 12:25 (noon)

In a past article Robert D. Black talk about a newsgroup called
 comp.theory.dynamic-sys.

Please, could inform us how to connect to this newsgroup.

Thank you
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From:         Chaim Manaster <manaster@YU1.YU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Fractals in special effects for movies

Thanks for the info Hal. I will try track down some of hte references.
Might any of this stuff be on the net?

Henry Manaster
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