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From: daveo@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Dave Ochs)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Mona and Erica
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:33:40 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA

>/ hpcvra:rec.arts.tv.soaps / sbookey@ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey) /  2:43 pm  Jan  7, 1993 /
>
>Commentary on various posts: 
>
>
>Why on Earth would they kill Mona now when they could've done it this summer.
>
>Plus, she's one of the best tangential characters on the show!

I agree, but frankly, the "real person" is looking a bit tired ... maybe she
is just tired of working and wants to do some long-term travel.  Sure they
could just have her kind of disappear and come back for cameos periodically
(like Langley), but they can get more Emmy material by having her die.

>It think Opal gave birth to Tad.  They would have to rewrite a little history to make
>
>Nola his mother.

True, but they have done worse in the past.  Personally, I think he will turn
out NOT to be Nola's son, but she will leave him something in her will anyway.

>WHy should Gloria know what Tad looks like.  Dixie doesn't have his picture everywhere.

True, but they were REAL good buddies before the Craig thing blew up ... surely
she must have seen a picture.  As others have pointed out, she lived at 
Opal's for a while too, and there are definitely pictures there.  What I find
even harder to believe is that no one at the hospital knows him.  Joe and Ruth
have been there FOREVER ... certainly there should be someone who knows their
children [why doesn't anyone ask about Bobby :-)].

Really TAN stuff...

-  So you work at IEEE?  I've been a member for a long time ... love my
   Spectrum magazine.  My wife's professional dues are double of mine and
   she gets a rotten magazine (she's a hygienist).  This is the first time
   I've ever "met" anyone connected with IEEE.

-  A friendly suggestion.  Although I myself have a big display, and could
   created messages in any sized window, lots of people are stuck with 80x25.
   I always create/edit notes in an 80x25 window for that reason so I don't
   accidently create long lines.  The long lines (and double spacing) make
   things hard to read on small screens.

-  Hope to hear more from you soon.  I am assuming you are male (I have never
   met any female Seths) ... it's getting to the point now where there are 
   almost as many male regular posters as female [OK, thats a slight 
   exageration] ... welcome to the 90's!

Dave Ochs            "Even if I did hit her it wouldn't have done any good
daveo@cv.hp.com      ... [sigh] should'a used a pail of water, that was it!"
Corvallis, OR                    - Edmund to Dr Tolan, about "Broom" Helga
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From: mins@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (timothy.j.mizerak)
Subject: Re: DOOL:  TAN  -- Jack and Rebecca
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:41:26 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.161343.27450@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> bab2@nestor.cc.bellcore.com (barter,elizabeth) writes:
>> Uh-oh.  Beth, has Tim been waving those designer dresses under your 
>> nose again?  You best be careful, if so.  Let me know if you need a 
>> little "don't let him get to you" encouragement from me.  :)
>> 
>> Joanna.
>
>I'm cured of my clothing addiction.  Really I am.  I can give it up
>any time I want to.  Just like *that* I can.  I am oblivious to Tim 
>over there holding up the Nolan Miller suit, the Emmanuel beaded gown, 
>the Louis Jourdan suede pumps and the Chanel handbag.  It doesn't 
>bother me at all, not one bit.  Really.  See, I am walking away.....
>(Psssst - Timmy dear - meet you around the corner, ok?)


Okay, how about at Lord and Taylor's at the Livingston Mall, say
1-ish?   See ya there!  ;-)


> Beth Barter
> Bellcore
> Livingston, NJ
> bab2@nestor.cc.bellcore.com



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From: jbeason@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Joseph E. Beason)
Subject: GL: Bridgette's child as the penultimate GL character
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:45:36 GMT

Well, the show has been REALLY good lately.  The Maureen/Lillian blowout
was incredible, the Maureen/Maureen's daughetr whose name escapes me 
interaction was excellent.  I didn't think Ed's acting was up to the level
of the women and girl.  

Harley and Mallet were great.  I LOVED the new Mindy, slight twang, looks
a bit older, great brother/sister stuff.  Dylan actually had some energy
for a change.

Anyway: Bridgette's child is genetically a Bauer-Thorpe and will be
socialized (for awhile, at least) by Cooper-Lewises.  The only big bloodlines
left are the Spauldings and Reardons (which are admittedly pretty weak these
days).  Now, if Nola's child comes in, that brings in Chamberlain and
Reardon genes, Bridgette's child marries that one, and the said offspring
will be mistakenly raised by Eleni's kid, who has married Kat.  The child
can be a muliple personality (would have to be, almost) and all the plotlines
could revolve around him/her...

Joe
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 11:12:26 EST
From: Joni Snyder <JSNYDER@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Godzilla Lite Update 930108
Distribution: na

In article <1993Jan11.155136.27612@cs.cornell.edu>, aleta@cs.cornell.edu (Aleta
Ricciardi) says:
>
>In article <C0nsM9.LwH@ddsw1.mcs.com>, starkid@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Lance Sanders)
>writes:
>
>|>
>|> Storyline [E]:
>|> -------------
>|>
>|>    Dix shows up for work, and GloBoNurse gives her the 4-1-1 on Mrs. Orsini
>
>hmmmm. you're dating yourself (not *that* way!) mr. l.  is there anywhere
>left that still uses 411 for information?  i thought it was all 555-1212
>these days.
>
411 still works here in the Washington DC metro. area.  According
to my Montgomery County, Maryland phone book use:

1-555-1212 - numbers in your area code, but out of the local area.
1+area code+555-1212 - numbers in other area codes
1-800-555-1212 - for "800" numbers

>        no longer dating myself,
>        aleta

Joni, "not dating myself either - that's just how it works"
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From: gibbsm@ll.mit.edu (MargAret D Gibbs)
Subject: ALL: making this newsgroup easier to read
Summary: friendly suggestions
Organization: M.I.T. Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 14:32:07 GMT


Hello, folks!

It's great fun to read r.a.t.s. to get the latest scoops on the
soaps, and everyone's fine opinions!  

However, with all the traffic in this newsgroup, it can be difficult 
to keep up with everything.  More than half of all the posts since 1986 
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   It's nice to see a *little* of a previous article for a reminder, 
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4) Try to keep your signatures of a reasonable length.  Having 
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5) And now, a public service announcement :-)
   If you have a technical question, consult the soaps-faq 
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   It's also available by sending an email message to 
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Last-posted: Nov. 30, 1992

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From: gibbsm@ll.mit.edu (MargAret D. Gibbs)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN: Welcome to new posters
Date: 5 Jan 93 12:43:37 GMT
Organization: MIT Lincoln Lab, Lexington, MA


The below is posted for Beatrice:
 
******

Hi everybody I'm not sure if I'm posting correctly, if not please fill me in
on the necessary rules and regs.!  I work at Loyola Maymount University in
california and have been an AMC fan for as long as I can remember.  So if there
are any trivia questions, I may be able to provide some answers!! I have been
peeking intoyour postings in RATS for about a month before I figured out that
I could actually reply.  I love this!  Appreciate any info on this group!
C YA... BEATRICE

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From: gibbsm@ll.mit.edu (Margaret Gibbs)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: test - ignore
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 11:06:55 -0500

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From: mjheal@bnr.ca (MJ Heal)
Subject: Re: DOOL: Faking it...
Reply-To: mjheal@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR, Ottawa, ON, Canada
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 16:39:14 GMT

In article <1i9vs3INNhja@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, pinyan@goodlife.Corp.Sun.COM (Ann Pinyan) writes:
|> 
|> OK - Austin is AWFUL at his fake piano playing.  But, Jack is AWFUL at
|> his fake typing skills.  That has really been driving me crazy.  I know
|> it's risky to post something negative about Ashford, but doesn't this
|> bug anyone else?  I personally don't raise my hands up to eye-level
|> when typing.  I also don't punch the keyboard so hard that people can
|> hear it for miles around.  It's very annoying!

	OK Ann, although I am a major Matt fan I am not going to flame
	you.  I am going to kind of defend Matt though.
	
	It is obvious that Jack can't type "properly".  And I
	personally don't punch the keyboard so hard that people can
	hear it for miles around.  But I have a very quiet keyboard.
	Alot of keyboards exist that produce a clicking sound when
	typing.

	But I do have to say that Jack types exactly like all my
	brothers.  They are reasonably fast (for non typers) but they
	do it the TWO FINGER method.  And that does seem to be the
	method Jack is typing.

	I don't know what it is about the two finger method, but they
	seem to bring their fingers up higher than usual.  I guess
	their fingers are busy searching for the next key or
	something.

	And I can believe that Jack would not to know how to properly
	type.  After all, he was raised in such a way that someone
	else did every thing for him.  Even when he owned the
	Spectator he had a secretary to do all that typing stuff.  Now
	is the first time that he really has to do all that typing for
	himself.

	But I do laugh when I see him typing away.  But it doesn't bug
	me like Austin's piano playing bugs people.  Austin is
	supposed to be a piano player, Jack isn't supposed to be a
	typist.

|> Ann

	MJ Limer

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From: rose@cecily.UUCP (Rose M. Delckum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Bonus Info
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 13:41:19 GMT
Organization: The New Alaska Riviera
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

In article <1993Jan4.223425.19840@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, timothy.j.mizerak writes:

> In article <93002.152818NMBCU@CUNYVM.BITNET> Nelson Broat <NMBCU@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
> >In article <C05un4.Gvu@panix.com>, spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of
> >Life" Spira) says:
> >>role of Rebecca Morrison will be phased out after the trial although there may
> >         -------
> >Wasn't this the first name of Orpheous sister?

     Rebecca was Shane's woman when he had amnesia and thought he was
'Sam'.  She was killed by Cal.
> 
> 
> If you mean the woman that Orpheous was avenging, that Roman killed, then
> that would be his wife.   It would have been Olivia's sister.
> Hmmm, I can barely remember Olivia right now, but didn't she resemble
> Isabella quite a bit?   

     Yeah!  She had curly red hair!  I don't remember the actress's name
right off hand...I think her last name starts with the letter 'Y'....
but she was in the "Problem Child" movies with John Ritter, as the brat's
mom.
> 
> Tim

     Rosita
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From: sbookey@ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Mona and Erica
Date: 7 Jan 93 22:43:47 GMT
Reply-To: sbookey@ep.ieee.org
Organization: IEEE, New York, NY


Commentary on various posts: 


Why on Earth would they kill Mona now when they could've done it this summer.

Plus, she's one of the best tangential characters on the show!

Tad is still at Wildwind.  He went with Edmund the other day when Edmund said

"Let's go home>"

I believe that Joey Martin is not Ray Gardner's son, but is Joe Martin's.  She was

probably pregnant when she was raped.  Ray blew up the house much later on, after 

serving jail time.  Ray died when he rigged a bomb in the Martin's basement.  He wanted

to get them Martins, but Greg wound up getting something in the basement.  Ray let 

him get everyone out of the house because Jenny was there, unbeknownst to Ray. He

didn't want to kill her.  He got blowed up real good.  He also had feigned blindness

and lived with Phoebe, who had a streak of poor judgment.  She also trusted Zack

and Wade Matthews, too.

Tad lived with his parents; Jenny lived with Opal at Myrtle's.  She and Tad later

went on to NYC to become model's at Olga's agency.

It think Opal gave birth to Tad.  They would have to rewrite a little history to make

Nola his mother.

Carl and Nancy lived next to the Martins, and then sold the house to Angela and

Jesse when they "went to Chicago."

It is about time they accelerated Scott so that he winds up a teenager in some torrid

teen triangle, a la Agnes Nixon tradition.  It is also time he rebelled, since he's an

orphan and ripe for trauma, poor little mite... They really should bring back Skye

and Cecily, for competition with Hayley and fun with Tad.

WHy should Gloria know what Tad looks like.  Dixie doesn't have his picture everywhere.
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From: dvw@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (diane.v.wilkerson)
Subject: Re: GL: Godzilla Quickies 930103
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:33:47 GMT

In article <1ik0tnINNjfc@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> htatkow@thearc.East.Sun.COM writes:
>>
>>[...calling Mindy's blowing Dodge an "escape" is stretching it, IMO.]
>
>>Ah, but now we know who she was talking to in the train station right before
>>she left
>
>Who??
>

Roger Thorpe, Man for all seasons.
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From: llmacdon@orion.oac.uci.edu (Linda Macdonald)
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN: name changing
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 8 Jan 93 17:30:34 GMT

In article <1iih5nINNrt@male.EBay.Sun.COM> valjorge@leapyear.EBay.Sun.COM (Valerie Jorge) writes:
>
>During my first marriage I changed my name from Valerie Ann Jorge
>to Valerie Jorge Alexander.  Now in my second marriage, I
>use Valerie Ann Hayes.  I chose to change my name because of
>having children with the same name.  But do any of you feel
>similar to me - that when I say my name is Valerie Hayes,
>that I'm not really talking about myself?  It is as if I
>use the name, but don't relate to it.  Weird.
>
Valerie, 
	I don't think this is so weird.  I have a good friend who is
really into astrology and numerology and she always gets me excited
about it when I am around her (since she lives in Milwaukee and I live
in Orange County, this is not too often).  Anyway, the one thing I
remember in learning about numerology is that when you change your
name, you are also changing your identity as determined by the numbers
because a different name usually means you end up with different numbers.
I always found this fascinating and have to admit that it was just another
good reason for me to go back to my maiden name and decide to stick with
it forever.
>Now, my real question here is how many r.a.t.s.ters have
>been married more than once?  Or is it that only those
>of us that have had a lot of experience changing our
>names the ones responding to the survey en mass?
>
I have only been married once, but I have gone through periods where
I desperately wanted to be married again.  (God only knows why!)  I
was engaged for a short time, but he wanted me to give up one of my
dogs.  I gave him up instead.  It was one of the best decisions I have
ever made for myself.  Now I am just so content with my life and my
family and friends that I don't worry about being married!

Linda Lou
>Inquiring minds want to know...
>
>Valerie Hayes
>(who???)
From: pboren@rand.org (Pat Boren)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: SB: Update for Monday, Jan 4
Date: 6 Jan 93 17:58:34 GMT
Organization: RAND

In article <29313@oasys.dt.navy.mil> greenlaw@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Leila Thomas) writes:
>In rec.arts.tv.soaps, pboren@rand.org (Pat Boren) writes:
>>
>>Thank you, John.  Guess you can be glad we're done with Sagg and
>>onto Capricorn.
>
>As one Capricorn to another, Happy Birthday to you.
>
>Leila

And back at you!  I just checked my summary poll, and I see someone
had a birthday on January 3, I'm the 8th, someone on the 10th and
another on the 16th.  Happy Bday to all of you!  (Which are you, Leila?)

Pat
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From: saj@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.suravlas)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: SB: Update for Monday, Jan 4
Date: 5 Jan 93 19:58:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <4148@randvax.rand.org> pboren@rand.org (Pat Boren) writes:
>
>So I took all these great notes and left them at home.  I guess
>with my birthday approaching (this Friday), the senility is starting
>to bother me.
>

Happy Birthday to YOUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!

>
>In the foyer, Rafe tells Ted to tell Lilly he'll be outside waiting
>for her (AARRGH!!! this guy!).  Next to talk to Lilly is Gina.
>Gina's advice to Lilly is that the one thing she's learned in her 5
>marriages is go with your heart, that's it.
>

I think Gina has been looking great lately. Everybody was on vacation
last week and there weren't too many posts. I thought she was very
funny with the chef that she hired for Lilly's wedding. I loved
it when the chef told Gina to shove the wedding where the sun doesn't
shine. (Trivia Question)

I also thought Samantha was cute. She really looked upset hiding in
back of her father when Gina was chasing her for ruining Lilly's dress.

> End of the show, Gina, Lionel, and Angela
>watch as Ted and Lilly recite their vows and kiss.  Rafe suffers it
>off by watching through a window.  Angela seemed semi-down, but not
>much.  Ted and Lilly seem truly in love and happy.
>

I can't believe that Lilly married Ted. I was still hoping that Ted and
Angela would get back together. January 15 is only next week and I think
Angela will remain a wall flower. It's obvious that CC and Sophia will
get back together. Angela must know by now that there is a place for her
in Central NJ.

>Tests on the comatose
>Sophia show she, too, has strychnine poisoning, and in large doses.
>Connor arrives with a policeman, read Ken the riot act, and arrests
>him on the spot.
>
>	YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
>

I loved when Kelly took the butcher' knife out and threated to kill Ken.
I would have used that knife to make an eunuch out of him. He doesn't
give up, he persists on inventing new stories and telling more lies.

>So, they take Gracie home and discuss her alternatives, like adoption.
>So long as the adoptive parents are "filthy rich," says Gracie.  Julia
>and Mason leave the room, and Gracie smiles that she's already found the
>perfect parents.  She rubs her tummy and refers to "Chester Capwell the
>First."
>

It's a shame that two such talented people like Grahn and Thompson are
going off the air with such a lame story. Here is this stupid girl Gracie
making idiots of Julia and Mason and the writers just continue to give
us this nonsense. WHAT A WASTE!!

>Phew.  Only one more update after this.  Jan 15 is coming much to
>quickly, isn't it?
>
>Pat

Vivian, I hope you got over your flu and feel good to make the trip to
Pittsburgh. I talked to Curt this morning and he told me that he packed
his purple polo shirt. :-) 

John


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From: dschlow@epas.utoronto.ca (Deborah Schlow)
Subject: AMC: Broken Hearts
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Distribution: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 10:07:08 GMT
Summary: how long, oh lord, how long
Keywords: broken hearts, recovery


I was just wondering--doesn't anyone in Pine Valley ever suffer from a
broken love affair? I wish I was as resilient as these people! I
know, I know IOAS, but still....Just six little weeks ago Jack had
found the love of his life in Angelique and now, he's smooching with
mystery woman. If it were me, I'd still be ransacking my apartment
looking for mementoes to burn in the kitchen sink.  Well, to be fair,
at least Hayley took her time getting over Brian, but not vice versa,
that's for sure.

By the way, even though it's late to add my name to the list, I liked
Dixie's singing voice both at the pageant and in the "You Are My
Sunshine" flashback. Just my two pesetas worth.

Deborah
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