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From: cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Darwinian selection (was HELMETS)
Date: 23 Nov 92 00:27:34 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Nov19.170903.16106@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.161605.25635@osf.org> jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris) writes:

>>>selection, Darwin WAS right, you know.

>>Darwin has never been proven to be right in his most important theory -
>>that human beings are animals at the end of the natural selection process
>>rather than an independent evolutionary chain. He never found the "missing 
>>link.

Check back over the last few years of Scientific American for a
summary of the latest state of play. Note also that in those cases
where a "missing link" existed, one is unlikely ever to find it, since
it is by definition a small scale transitory phenomenon. Most
evolutionary scientists consider that the divergence between human
stock and chimpanzee/ape stock happened several million years ago.
None dount that it happened. The disagreement is about exactly when
and where, and whether once or many times.

>Personally, I'd argue that we're not the end - maybe a temporary stopping
>point...

Evolution is always happening so long as some kinds of people are more
likely to die than others, especially before reproducing. Since
murder, suicide, and traffic deaths are the three largest killers of
young people in the industrial West, we are clearly engaged in
evolving people who are better at avoiding these deaths. There is
clearly very strong selective pressure working against squids.

>>In case you haven't read his biography, Darwin's inability to prove this theory
>>drove him insane. He couldn't converse with people, he could no longer listen
>>to music or read poetry (long favorite pastimes of his). He died in miserable
>>solitude.

I don't think you have read his biography very carefully. He did not
consider that his theory was unproved at all. He was upset by the
fierce and ignorant vilification he got at the hands of those whose
religious beliefs made it impossible for them to accept his case. He
spent so long at it not because he thought his theory needed that much
support, but simply because he knew what a hornet's nest of religious
disapproval he would disturb, and so tried to present the strongest
case he could develop. Such long gestation of a novel theory in order
to present it in the most complete form was not unusual in those days.
But this was not what caused his mental malady either. In his own
opinion it was simply that the intellectual strain of so long and
concentrated a work had somehow broken his mind. There are, however,
quite a number of age-related degradations of brain function, of which
Alzheimer's disease is currently topical, and he may well have been
suffering from one of these conditions.
-- 
Chris Malcolm    cam@uk.ac.ed.aifh          +44 (0)31 650 3085
Department of Artificial Intelligence,    Edinburgh University
5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK                DoD #205
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Subject: Re: Squash or slide?
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 04:44:01 GMT

In article <7686@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM> bradl@tekig5.pen.tek.com writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.233137.24262@serval.net.wsu.edu> bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:
>>
>But choosing to tumble or slide? Nope. By the time that sort of decision
>(theoretically) should be made, I was mostly just catching on to the
>fact that my life had just taken a sudden detour. Should I die in a
>wreck I have little doubt that my last words will be either "shit!" or
>"What the f---?" (or maybe, Slap! "I could have had a V8!")

For the Record:  I was chatting with a pilot friend and he had just
read an article about the last words uttered by pilots just before they
bought the farm.  Far and away, the most common words heard were: OH SHIT!
Usually verbalized in a loud and vigorous manner.

Can you confirm this Mary?

Ride Free,

Bill
________________________________________________________________
johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu  prez=BIMC 
AMA #500924   DoD #00314   WMTC #0002  SR= 2.125
Yamabeemer fjgs1200pdr100 740GLE  KotV KotRR KotD #0001  :-)
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

There are many paths to truth.  Don't die choosing.
                                                      Zen Graffiti
From: cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Japanese Motorcycle Repair Kit
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:01:18 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Nov17.224801.13113@asl.dl.nec.com> drinckes@nzl.abk.nec.co.jp writes:
>In article 28244@castle.ed.ac.uk, cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm) writes:

>>What a moron! It is elementary chemistry that the more smoke and oil
>>the car pumps out the _less_ carbon dioxide it is producing.

>Well fucking excuuuuuuse me for making an error.

No need to apologise. The pleasure's mine. Please carry on.

>[I said "dioxide"] but I meant "monoxide and all the other pollutants"

I hope you ride more carefully than you argue!

>I'll lie naked on a highway for an hour

If it turns you on why not do it?

>Chris, if there is really nothing wrong with carbon dioxide, do me a favour
>and put a plastic bag over your head.

Since I exhale carbon dioxide, that's not a logical suggestion, but
then as I'm sure you'll explain, you probably meant to say something
else.
-- 
Chris Malcolm    cam@uk.ac.ed.aifh          +44 (0)31 650 3085
Department of Artificial Intelligence,    Edinburgh University
5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK                DoD #205
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer)
Subject: Re: Bikes Indoors and Riding with Gas
Originator: markk@sparcplug
Reply-To: markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer)
Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:46:41 GMT

In article <Nov.15.12.09.20.1992.24987@romulus.rutgers.edu>, merenda@romulus (Kill Bon Jovi) writes:

>also, spare control cables are good to have when you tour.
>it would suck to be stuck in the middle of nowhere because of a 
>broken cable. easy repair, small part, cheap, but REAL inconvient
>when they go on you and you don't have a spare. 

Clutch Lever.  A friend of mine tipped his Magna over in a parking lot
and broke the clutch lever off.  We had to run to the Honda dealer to
get one.  Later I tipped my Ninja over and broke the tip of mine off,
so when I got a new one I stashed the other (still useable) one under
the seat.

--
)V(ark)<               markk@tcs.com                   DoD #400
1988 FZR400            1985 ZX900 Ninja             1977 RD400D
            TCSI Berkeley, CA USA  (510) 649-3781
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Long winter's nap . . .
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:06:27 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


   Just a datapoint on the winter riding chart.  I checked the thermometer
this morning at about 6:45 and it read 14 deg. F.  Clear sky and no ice/snow
on the roads so I rode to work of course.  
   I think it is going to be a cold winter this year.

--

*******************************************************************************
* Bill Ranck                                          ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu *
* DoD #496  Bikes past and present: CB175, CB550F, Norton 750, CB350F, XV535  *
*******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: kevinh@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch (kevinh)
Subject: British bikers
Originator: kevinh@nath
Reply-To: kevinh@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch
Organization: Ascom Hasler AG
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 12:03:11 GMT


As you may or may not know, the EC will impose power limits, noise limits,
emissions limits and safety limits within the next 12 months. There are
more detailed descriptions in the latest issues of BIKE and PB that i've 
just received.

I'm not opposed to the emissions limits being proposed (who would??) but
I am opposed to the power limit which is being introduced by the EC on the
mistaken assumption that less power=less accidents. The DOT agrees that
this is a mistaken assumption but they are not opposing it because they
do not wish to upset other member states.

It would be a good idea if you wrote to your MP and MEP (ask your local
party office (in the phone book) for names/addresses or just write to 
your MP at the House of Commons, Westminster, London) and tell them that 
you oppose this legislation and that you wish them to actively oppose it 
too. Every letter helps! Get your friends to write!

Other "gems" of legislation coming up include the banning of custom petrol
tank caps - so you don't rip your nuts off in an accident, as if the clocks
and bars don't do the same! The articles in BIKE and PB urge everybody to
join the BMF/MAG/FEM as soon as possible or it may be too late. 

I've seen a few folks with MAG numbers, maybe they could provide some
more info about this.

Cheers

Kevin.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: UK - Motorcycle Show
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:41:59 GMT

Roger Collier (rogerc@discovery.uk.sun.com) wrote:
: Anybody going to the Motorcycle Show at the National Exhibition Centre,
: England, on Saturday 5th December?
: 
: It's a suitable occasion for a DoD meeting as there are already 3 members
: going.
: 
:          #                                           # Let's not talk about
:    _     #     Roger.Collier@Uk.Sun.COM              # love and flowers and
: o_/_\_o  #                                           # things that don't
:  (O_O)   #     Sun Microsystems, Coventry, England.  # explode. I've used up
:   \H/    #     (44) 203 692255                       # all of my magic powers
:    U     #                                           # trying to do it in the
:       DoD#226  GSXR1100L                             # road.


If you see a blue D-reg. K100RS that has a non-standard screen with a Dennis-
the-Menace sticker on it, a tow-bar, scuffed panniers, probably (if it's not
raining) a sheepskin seat cover and the rustiest stainless-steel exhaust ever,
then it's probably me.  I am 5'6", wear glasses, average (read slightly 
overweight) wearing jeans and probably a white tee-shirt with a DoD motif and a
red, black and white Scott leather jacket.  I use a BMW-III helmet but I will
probably will put that in the cloakroom (my leather as well).

Looking forward to bumping into you, or shall we arrange to meet somewhere, 
like the Yamaha stand at 2 o clock and 4 o clock?


Nick (the Gregarious Biker)   MAG 73516   DoD 1069   NEC Bike Show Programme


M'Lud.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: What would you ride on a long distance trip?
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 04:33:32 GMT

brady_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Brady) writes:

>Recently I've been thinking about taking a long distance solo ride -- a ride to
>Alaska from my home in New Hampshire. I'd ride the Trans-Alaska Hwy through
>Canada (my 2nd favourite country, and sometimes my most!), go up through the
>Territories to Dawson, over to Circle, down to Fairbanks, then Anchorage. From
>there, I'll take the state ferry to Sitka and Juneau, then down to Vancouver,
>into the Pacific Northwest, then trundle my way back across the USA to New
>England.

For a trip like that I think I'd have to go with the BMW R100GS Paris-Dakar.
The FJ is nice, but it does not care much for dirt or gravel roads. Bob
Palin might disagree (and his credentials are much better than mine
since he's actually done it), but I think a Gold Wing would be to heavy,
and the Harley doesn't have much ground clearance. The 10,000 gallon
tank on the P-D could be a real comfort on those long, lonely stretches
of road too.

Some might say that dirt-worthiness isn't a consideration since the
Trans-Alaska Highway is mostly (completely?) paved now. But what's the
point of riding clear to Alaska if you don't do a bit of adventuring
while you're there?
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: fucking BDI motorcycle drivers
Date: 21 Nov 92 15:03:07 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: usa
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH

cobra@ziggys.cts.com 619/262-6384 (Ron Lee) writes:

>Jonathan's solution reminds me of a quote from a print shoppe
>Maybe it should be a bumper sticker for tailgaiters to read:
>
>A timing error on YOUR part does NOT constitute an EMERGENCY on my part!
> [You're]  Supposed to get there...WHEN???!?!?!
>              AHHHAAHAAAHAAAHAAHAAHAAAAAHH!!!

So much for the service economy.  If the print shop didn't
respond to *my* needs, I'd go to a print shop that did.

ObMoto:  same applied to garages and mail order houses.
-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
                              DoD # 0698
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: roland@quadsys.com (Roland Besserer)
Subject: Re: Why I ride
Organization: QUAD Systems
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 02:16:03 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.234428.13939@informix.com> dboyd@informix.com writes:
>In article <1ea37fINNjch@im4u.cs.utexas.edu> osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard  
>Osborn) writes:
>> 
>>      Why I Ride
>> 
>> I want to LIVE, not just exist.
>> 
>> -John
>
>
>I like this post, thanks John.
>
>I was at dinner awhile back with a brother that rides and his new girlfriend  
>who doesn't approve. I didn't know that and innocently asked her if she rode.  
>She replied, with a nastly sneer "No, I like my life." And I came back with:  
>"Yes, well, I like to *live* my life."
>
>To her credit she smiled and gave me the score-one-for-you sign.
>

You sure you didn't just misread that sign!
-- 

Roland Besserer
QUAD Systems
roland@quadsys.com
From: cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Bikes Indoors and Riding with Gas
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:37:51 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Nov15.142031.11242@news.arc.nasa.gov> howland@noc2.arc.nasa.gov (Curtis Howland) writes:

>I thought this was going to be a discussion of what
>a pain it is to try to fart on a bike.

You don't mean you farted with the fart-zip closed? Aaarrggh!
-- 
Chris Malcolm    cam@uk.ac.ed.aifh          +44 (0)31 650 3085
Department of Artificial Intelligence,    Edinburgh University
5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK                DoD #205
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Subject: Re: Leg Protection for cold weather?
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 21:50:18 GMT

In article <1en6spINNcl2@im4u.cs.utexas.edu> osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) writes:
>
>Whoops!  )Sigh(  Gender is so confusing sometimes...
>I'm *NOT* looking forward to dealing with the random gender
>assigned to German nouns in my foreign language class
>next semester.
>
>Obmoto:  Is the German noun for "motorcycle" masc., fem., or neuter?

I dunno about German nouns for Moto's, but my PD is definitely
female.  Brunnhilde is your archtypical German wench; good looking in
her own special way, try most anything once, huge capacity for liquids,
a couple of jugs that never quit and ready to ride all day.

er, is that sexist?

Ride Free,

Bill
________________________________________________________________
johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu  prez=BIMC 
AMA #500924   DoD #00314   WMTC #0002  SR= 2.125
Yamabeemer fjgs1200pdr100 740GLE  KotV KotRR KotD #0001  :-)
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

There are many paths to truth.  Don't die choosing.
                                                      Zen Graffiti
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Subject: Re: What would you ride on a long distance trip?
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 21:57:04 GMT

In article <BxvKzz.2n1@apollo.hp.com> brady_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Brady) writes:
>Recently I've been thinking about taking a long distance solo ride -- a ride to
>Alaska from my home in New Hampshire. I'd ride the Trans-Alaska Hwy through
>Canada (my 2nd favourite country, and sometimes my most!), go up through the
>Territories to Dawson, over to Circle, down to Fairbanks, then Anchorage. From
>there, I'll take the state ferry to Sitka and Juneau, then down to Vancouver,
>into the Pacific Northwest, then trundle my way back across the USA to New
>England.
>
>So here is your essay question -- what would you ride on a 10,000 mile trip?
>Pencils up... and begin.

At the risk of being a little different, I'd strongly recommend the
R100GS p/d.  I've done 550+ mile days with no butt burn.  I _love_
the huge tank.  I've done a bit of all kinds of roads.  You'd be
hard pressed to find a better bike for that type of travel.

Ride Free, 

Bill
________________________________________________________________
johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu  prez=BIMC 
AMA #500924   DoD #00314   WMTC #0002  SR= 2.125
Yamabeemer fjgs1200pdr100 740GLE  KotV KotRR KotD #0001  :-)
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

If life were meant to be easy, we'd all be rich and ride like Rainey.
From: gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme Harrison)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:42:52 GMT
Subject: Re: FORTUNE magazine profiles Hells Angels
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

/ hpcc01:rec.motorcycles / jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) /  4:00 pm  Nov 18, 1992 /

Wait.  I thought there were only 300 or so "real" Angels in the *world*.
I suspect the "other large outlaw gangs" are *much* larger than the
Angels...
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
               '92 R100R, DoD# 0378, BMWOA, AMA, ACLU, EFF, CPSR
                                "HotHead Rules!"
----------
Negative, the Angels are the biggest and baddest club with at least
1,000 members and 200 prospects worldwide in 70 chapters. Outlaws
have about 40 chapters and 400 members. Bandidos 300 members in
22 chapters. Pagans 26 chapters and 200 members. Sons of Silence
150 members in 17 chapters. That doesn't include smaller outlaw
clubs such as the Losers in Monterey Peninsula among others.

I, for one, wouldn't be surprised if some Hell's Angels actually
read usenet including rec.moto and r.m.h. among others. They are
actually very much in tune with state-of-the-art technology and 
use PCs, walkie-talkies, mobile phones, pagers, police scanners,
video surveillance, faxs, electronic evesdropping devices, radio-
wave detectors, scramblers, etc. Never underestimate them and for
more information order: Hells Angels: Three Can Keep A Secret If
Two Are Dead. By Yves Lavigne. $9.95 (Lyle Stuart).

I used to frequent Vince's on East 14th St in San Leandro which
was owned by a HA called Doc and next door to a popular Angel
bar plus there was a HA machine shop across the street. That was
in early 70s. One thing I learned is to show respect to them and
you'll be okay, but Mickey Rourke blew it when he gave them a pair
of Sportsters which the HA consider *girl's bikes* and that was
the end of his relationship with them. 

Graeme Harrison
DoD#649
'Sonny Barger - A Living American Legend.' - on tanktop at Bear's
                                             in old Niles, CA. 
 
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: 350->750 Riddle
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 04:23:47 GMT

klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger) writes:
>In <Bxn3zu.KKr@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
>>dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (The Nashville Flash) writes:

>>> >Riddle:  What do you get when you bore a 350 out to 750?

>>>>A stack of very large washers?

>>>DING! YES!  Why DwB must have an olde musty stack of Duct Tapes lodged in 
>>>his head.  The riddle was the brainchild of Ed Hertfelder.  Tell him what he 
>>>won, Johnny.

>>What? No pair of nickles? (Name THAT tale! :-)

>He couldn't find a dime!

>  and then it didn't run at all.

Yep, that's the one. 

For those that have been deprived of "The Duct Tapes", think of a
makeshift sparkplug gap gauge. :-)

I have to admit that you've stumped me on the "He duct taped his pants
to his boots and then..." tale.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Why I ride
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:41:28 GMT

Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
>> osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) writes:

>>From my perspective, the worst
>>possible thing that can happen to you is to realize, on your
>>deathbed, that you havn't done anything. 

>And almost as bad to be fatally injured on a japanese bike
>when it could have been on something with class.

Yea, like a Benelli Sei, or anything from Bimota, an Agusta MV, a
Laverda triple, a Hesketh, certain Ducatis, a large displacement
2-stroke, or (naturally) a Brough Superior.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
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