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From: Krzysztof@netxsys.guild.org (Krzysztof Adamski)
Subject: Re: Carburetors, gasoline, and why I don't recycle
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech,misc.consumers,sci.environment,talk.environment
Date: 7 Sep 92 22:49:02 EDT
Organization: NetX Systems Inc.

From article <1992Sep2.173112.15476@news.acns.nwu.edu>, by drt@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Robert Toreki):
> 	With the note here about a H2-fueled car...seems like a great idea. 
> Then imagine the public horror (liability...) the first time one of these
> suckers gets creamed in an accident and goes up in a fireball.  Would make a
> Ford Pinto look like a Bic lighter.  Ever see those signs on the highway
> "TUNNEL 10 MILES" with huges warnings about carrying compressed gases?  Think
> there might be a reason for these?  Ever witness the detonation of a
> hydrogen-oxygen balloon?  Mighty impressive. 
> 
> 						Rob
> 

The hydrogen would not be compressed in a tank. Current development uses
some kind of metal alloy that acts like a sponge for hydrogen. When electric
current is applyed this sponge releases hydrogen. Mazda is having some success
with this plus the rotary engin seems to be very good with hydrogen.

Krzysztof
From: kwan@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Yik-Yin Edwin Kwan)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Passive or Attack Belts
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:47:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

I just have the driver side motorized seatbelt on my Probe replaced,
because it got stuck halfway between the A and B pillars the other day.
The mechanic said the moving buckle, the track and the motor are 
manufactured as 1 assembly, and cannot be taken apart.

I spent $487 for the whole thing!  Arrrgh ...

Edwin Kwan
From: reynolds@felix.filenet.com (David Lee Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: 1973, SAAB SONNET III, What is it worth...
Keywords: SAAB, SONNET, SPORT
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:15:56 GMT
Reply-To: reynolds@fritz.filenet.com (David Lee Reynolds)
Organization: FileNet Corp., Costa Mesa, CA


	HUMMM???

	I just finished reading an article where the author basicly stated he,
        well, wanted to "set them on fire, and push them down a cliff"!

	That was I believe a SAAB 900S...

	What is opinion of the netters regarding the 1973 SAAB SONNET III???

	(Fiberglass body, 2 seater, front wheel drive, w/V-4 engine).

	My friend has one that has 30,000 miles on a new rebuilt 7/8th race
        engine.  (Runs and sounds strong!)

	He said if it was in mint condition it would be worth more than
        $6000.00 dollars.  (Is this true?) 

	He is trying to sell it for $4000.00! 

	It needs some work, and I was going to offer him $2500.00.

	Do you think this is a good price???
	
	Please respond by mail...  Thanks!
				
					David Lee Reynolds


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From: jiang@mprgate.mpr.ca (Jie Cheng Jiang)
Subject: Ford F150 Lightning Pickup
Originator: jiang@msat
Keywords: Lightning, Ford, truck
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 92 00:19:20 GMT

Has anyone seen or driven the new Ford F150 Lightning pickup?
This is supposed to be the sportiest truck Ford has ever built
in modern times. Does it come with 5-speed manual transmission?
How does it compare to the GMC Syclone in performance and
handling?

Thanks!

-jj
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: What's a DOD number ?
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 19:35:17 GMT

shiv@cs.man.ac.uk (Shiv Sikand) writes:

>Forgive my ignorance, but what is a DOD number often quoted by people and
>what is its relevance to other people ?

Well, it's _not_ what my .sig says, but it might give a hint.
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From: kessepa@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: ANYBODY INTO 64-73 MUSCLECARS??
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:53:03 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

I have two '68 Camaros , one is a Drag race car and the other is
a run - a - round car.  I am planning to buy another from a salvage
yard.  Its a '68 Camaro convertible.  

Crash
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From: seymour@bnr.ca (Jeffrey Seymour)
Subject: Re: Anybody into 64-73 musclecars?
Reply-To: seymour@bnr.ca (Jeffrey Seymour)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 18:24:34 GMT

In an article by  gv9j@vax5.cit.cornell.edu, he says...

>Not only that, it can burn the tires all the way to 70 mph.

Gee I can see where that would come in handy.  I mean lots of hp and torque is great but isn't it usually more effective to get the power the the ground? I have driven cars with ~300 hp before but unless the suspension, weight and tires are up to the job, you really aren't accomplishing anything more than impressing the odd 14-16 year old.

oooooooh time to be flamed again.  I can feel it.

I still have no need for old muscle cars.  
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From: dtorok@nynexst.com (David Torok)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: GMs plan: New Credit Card (MC, then possibly VISA)
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:45:54 GMT
Organization: NYNEX Science & Technology, Inc.

dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM (Dave Bernard) writes:
: 
: Is there a ceiling on the amount you can accrue toward a car purchase?
: 
: If I charge, say, $100,000 a year, would they really give me $5000 off?
: 
: 	Dave
From a TV commercial:

LIMIT $500 / year
7 year limit.

So, charge $10K / year for 7 years and get $3500 "off" the price of a car.
What I'd like to see is what kind of restrictions are put on the rebate.

Personally, I think it's a pretty good marketing scheme by GM.  Too bad you
can't apply the purchase price to a Saturn (as I'm led to believe through the
TV ad.)

-=$>Dave<$=-
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From: even@teknologi.agderforskning.no (Even Krogstad)
Subject: WANTED - Jaguar XKE for renovation
Organization: Agderforskning
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 07:39:45 GMT

Does anybody know where to get hold of a JAG. XKE for renovation.
State: "running condition" or "renovation object"
In my part of the world , most XKE's are renovated, and extremely expensive.
Pref. production year 1961 - 1963, (we have special import taxes for cars older
then 30 years in Norway).
But any series-1 car is of interest.

Respons: E-mail or  Even Krogstad
                    Agderforskning  
                    Televeien 1
                    4890 Grimstad
                    Norway
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From: bednarek@picard.med.ge.com (Dennis Bednarek Mfg 4-6971)
Subject: hot rod
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 08:19:00 GMT




Someone sent me an adress for a hot rod news group a while ago.  Unfortunatly
I lost that address and instructions.  If someone has it could you E-Mail
it to me?

Thanks
Dennis



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From: underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe)
Subject: Re: Saturn... Good or Bad... Recommendations...
Organization: Miners for a Heart of gold
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 05:41:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.023628.23875@u.washington.edu>
seldon@milton.u.washington.edu (Hari Seldon) writes:
>...
>I have to tend to agree with the mechanics argument, most of them don't give a
>sh*t, I am still searching for one who will talk to me straight, and talk to
>me, not at me..  I am not stupid..

I'm sure that Mr. Seldon is not stupid, but neither is the sleazy mechanic.

Car salesmen, mechanics, and politicians have a lot in common.
They talk a lot about nothing, and there's always an angle.

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From: ph279sw@prism.gatech.EDU (FR SIGING WEI)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: GMs plan: New Credit Card (MC, then possibly VISA)
Date: 11 Sep 92 01:26:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


Any idea how to get one, at least there will be some fine prints
we can read. But the good part is it is free, no annual fee, and 
even 16.x% interest rate is lower than most of the cards (1% higher
than the average, but the average annual fee is $15).

Please let me know if you know how to get one.
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From: colombo@bronco.fnal.gov
Subject: Re: Bugs (and Bras)
Organization: Fermilab Computing Division
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:15:39 GMT

In article <Bu61y4.Hr7@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, khan@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott Coleman) writes:
> kcreta@sedona.intel.com (Kenneth Creta) writes:
> 
> 
> In a similar vein, how effective are bras at preventing kamikaze insects?
> My car is a very bright shade of red (Arrest-Me Red ;-) and for some reason
> it attracts bugs even when standing still (I'm not kidding - I parked the
> car yesterday afternoon planning to do some routine maintenance, and between
> the time I had parked it and the time I got out to go open the hood, two
> bees had appeared out of nowhere are were checking out the front end. Within
> a couple minutes, there were at least half a dozen of the little buzzers
> flitting around. Made working in the engine bay an interesting experience,
> since they kept buzzing my head ;-/ )
> 

The best that I can figure is that the bees are attracted to the smells
(pollen?) that you accumulate on your car while driving, not the color.
(Mine is white.)  I spray the front with Raid before I open the hood.

Does anyone else have another theory?

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From: klui@corp.hp.com (Kenneth K.F. Lui)
Subject: Re: Unsafe Safety Belts - CBS 'Street Stories' Report
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:13:48 GMT

In article <18qphqINN2rk@early-bird.think.com> shaig@Think.COM (Shai Guday) writes:
>1. Change seatbelts.
[...]
>                                               try to get
>	the european style with the knob that has to be pushed
>	lengthwise along the buckle as opposed to into the buckle.

Is it true that seatbelts with the pushbuttons that travels the
length of the buckle are immune?  I haven't tried it on my car
yet, but plan to this evening.  The story showed that the belts
weren't limited to just GMs and Fords, but there was an incident
on an '80s Toyota.  My '91 Toyota has the "European" style
buckle.


Ken
From: carl@Cayman.COM (Carl Heinzl)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: The Lexus SC300, information wanted
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:24:45 GMT
Distribution: rec.autos
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA


>SC300=SLOW

Motorweek just reviewed the SC300 and said that it was as fast as the
SC400 (mostly because of the 5 speed transmission which isn't
available in the SC400).  It has a 225 HP V6 which is supposed to be
the new engine that toyota is going to use in some models.  Anyhow
they did 0-60 in 6.9 sec and it stopped from 60 mph in 106 feet (they
must have glue on their track!).

>Also..if you get it..get the upgraded rims...the 'normal' rims I've seen
>are from the (well...) ES250! UGLY!

>The SC300 isn't anything when compared to the SC400...but the price
>is the major factor...and for the money..I guess the SC300 is "OK"...I'd
>still stick with a pretty Vette for the price...#1 IT IS AMERICAN, #2 IT IS
>FAST, #3 IT LOOKS MORE EXPENSIVE THEN IT IS, #4 IT LOOKS GREAT, #5 YOU'LL
>LOVE IT.

It's supposedly the exact same running gear (chassis) as the SC400.

-Carl-
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From: vln@icpsr.umich.edu (Victoria Neff)
Subject: sticky sliding door on Voyager
Organization: Inter-University Consortium for Political and Social Research
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:10:06 GMT

The sliding door on our Voyager has gotten VERY hard to slide in the last
several weeks.  I sprayed all the "wheels" with WD40, which seemed to make
a marginal improvement for about 2 days, and now it's harder to move than
ever.

Any suggestions?  Thanks!


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From: welty@cabot.balltown.cma.COM (richard welty)
Subject: Re: Fred Puhn (Was: front disc brake question)
Organization: New York State Institute for Sebastian Cabot Studies
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:37:51 GMT

In article <fqtns7g.esprit@netcom.com> esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) writes:
>Who is Fred Puhn?  What is his background?  He also has a very good book
>called _How to Make Your Car Handle_, also from HP Books.

he has designed and built a lot of competitive race cars in california,
as i recall, and is fairly highly regarded.  both of his books, on brakes
and on handling, are quite good.  Carroll Smith is the bible, of course,
but Fred Puhn presents a lot of useful information clearly and
understandably, and for people who don't need all of the chapters in
Smith's books on sheet metal fabrication techniques, etc, Puhn generally
serves quite well.

_The Brake Handbook_ is a really useful compendium of good information;
it is without question the best place to start learning how brakes really
work, and it's not that hard to get a hold of.

richard
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From: kenny@osf.org (Kenneth Crudup)
Subject: Re: FBI Director Announces Plan to Combat Carjacking
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 00:57:21 GMT


Yawn.

Empty rhetoric to make certain gullible people feel "safer" and give certain
politicians the opportunity to grab some media attention.

The FBI can do no more to prevent "carjacking" than they can prevent purse
snatchings.

We're losing the "War on Drugs"; when will we learn?

	-Kenny
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From: ae454@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Simundza)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
Subject: Wanted: 85' Sentra Owners or Service Manual...
Date: 11 Sep 1992 16:32:53 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ae454@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Simundza)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


 I didn't get an owners manual with my car, and I'd like to buy
one if anyone has one, or photocopy....I don't want to spend too much..

anyone know where I can get a service manual also, cheap?

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From: dlou@WORF.UCSD.EDU (Dennis Lou)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
Subject: Re: What's a good one??? was Re: CLUB Story
Date: 7 Sep 92 19:12:47 GMT
Reply-To: dlou@ece.ucsd.edu
Organization: University of California, San Diego


In article <1992Sep2.092607.282@lrc.edu>, little_re@lrc.edu writes:
|> > one fitted.  If you really don't want your car (stolen by driving
|> > away), make sure it's locked, has a club on the wheel, a high
|> > quality alarm that disables the car, is is not parked in a bad place and you 
|> > have the lead from the coil in your back pocket, and is filthy dirty with
|> > mud and other crud all over it :-).
|> 
|> 
|>     Allright, so what is the best way to deter a thief??  I've considered
|> a Club-type device, but like someone said earlier, just cut the steering
|> wheel.  I've considered an alarm, but don't have the money right now.  
|> Is there a good, inexpensive way to make a thief look at somebody else's
|> car??
|> 
|> --
|> Rich Little		
|> LITTLE_RE@LRC.EDU	A hotrodder is someone who is completely 
|> Lenoir-Rhyne College	baffled by people who are NOT into cars!
|> Hickory, NC		

LoJack sounds interesting if you live in Boston or LA (I think LA
was the second city to use it).

You buy a system that they install and won't tell you where it is.
When you car is stolen, you call LoJack, they enable the transmitter
they mounted in your car and the police find it using a direction
finder.

I think the record for recover is 20 minutes;  must have been one
really surprised theif!

I've heard other companies selling similar stuff.  I think you can buy
a system (Audiovox?) that consists of a GPS (Global Positioning Satellite)
receiver hooked up to a voice synthesizer hooked up to your cellular phone.
Call your car and ask it where it is!

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From: verzani@math.washington.edu (John Verzani)
Subject: Rear wheel wobble on a Corolla
Originator: verzani@frobenius.math.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington, Mathematics, Seattle
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 02:13:38 GMT

Hello all,

I have a problem I'm hoping someone can help me with. On my '80
Toyota Corolla my right rear wheel has a side to side wobble when I
drive. I changed the tire with my spare and had the same problem, leading
me to suspect my axle is bent. Is this likely? If my axle is bent is 
there a way to repair it, or will replacement be necessary? How much 
will something like this cost? Should I be worried about driving the
car in this condition?  Is this a job I can do, or am I better off
with an experienced mechanic?

The wobble is pronounced when viewed, but I can't detect it when I'm
driving. The bolts all feel secure, so I don't suspect those.

Feel free to e-mail me or post. All help is appreciated.

John Verzani
verzani@math.washington.edu
From: brooks@mcnc.org (Ted Brooks)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
Subject: Re: Dirty oil after change?
Keywords: oil changes
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:49:37 GMT
Organization: MCNC Center for Microelectronics, RTP, NC

In article <146@bluehau.bubble.org> hugo@bluehau.bubble.org (Hugo Bueno) writes:
>sgm@otter.hpl.hp.com (Steve Methley) says:
>]neilw@informix.com (Neil Williams) in <1992Sep7.173024.14772@informix.com>:
>]
>]> My SO recently had her oil changed at a local gas station.  When I went
>]> with her to pick up her car, I took a look at the dipstick.
>]> I was very surprised to see that the oil still looked pretty dirty....
>]> .. but I know that my oil looks clear and brand-new after a change...
>]> ..for service not performed, or they didn't change the filter...
>]
>
>As a counter-data point, and one which I venture to guess
>is much closer to reality.....
>
>I've done countless oil changes on cars and I have YET to see
>one that has clear oil after the change.  This even includes
>changing the filter and using engine flushes.

To counter your counter-data :-) my experience is, it depends. In my cars,
the oil & filter is changed every 3K miles. I have found that the first 1k 
or so after a change, it's hard to check the oil level because the the oil
is almost too clear to see on the dipstick. I basically have to look at 
where the dipstick is wet vs. dry. At 3k, my oil is a nice medium brown - 
never black. Of course, the sludge buildup under the valve covers is 
negligible, so there's not much contamination of the new oil.

On the other hand, I have changed oil for people whose engines were 
basically sludge warehouses. The oil will look dirty 10 minutes after you
start the car - especially if they decide to "save money" by not buying a
new filter. The sludge and/or leftover oil in the filter will dirty up
the new oil in a heartbeat.
 
Ted Brooks
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From: ravalent@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Readin' Da News...)
Subject: Re: Looking for a 12V vacuum pump
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 22:57:17 EDT

In article <2017@gvgspd.GVG.TEK.COM> kcw@gvgdsd.GVG.TEK.COM (Kenneth C. Wunner) writes:
>I am looking for a 12V DC vacuum pump to install into my Jeep Cherokee.
>The Jeep has vacuum activated front hubs and I occasionally "run out of
>vacuum" while climbing some of the long grades around this part of the
>state. The pump should be small and able to provide 15 to 20 inches of
>vacuum at a moderate volume. I have checked the "vacuum" actuator and it
>performs with in specs. I quess Jeep never expected that people would be
>using 4WD for extended uphill travel at moderate speeds (30-35mph).
>
>Any advice is welcome, please respond via Email or by posting to this
>group.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Ken

   Try looking in the local salvage yard for a 82-84 Chevy Cavalier
with a manual trans.  Inside the bottom front drivers side fender is
a small vacuum pump.  Originally used to supply vacuum to the 
brake booster during starting, it sound's like it should work fine.

 --> Bob
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