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From: schmiher@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Hermann Schmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Flashes in SVGA modes
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:29:23 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Originator: schmiher@hphalle8a.informatik.tu-muenchen.de


Hello,
when I run DOS apps or WINOS2 in fullscreen high resolution (other than
the WPS res.) I see heavy flickering on the screen when progs
update the video memory.
Looks like the video mode is switched in quick succession and the monitor
loses synch for a fraction of a second.
I tried RETRACE_EMULATION etc., the SVGA utility failed (the screen
gets garbled after the startup logo - yes, I used it in a fullscreen
session).

I've already installed all the latest video fixes.

What is the reason for the flickering (the virtual video drivers?)
Has anyone a fix for this?

Thanks in advance,

Hermann.
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.0 LAN advice requested.
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:14:32 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1992Jul21.144709.26945@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> lemieux@eecg.toronto.edu (Guy Gerard Lemieux) writes:
>I am considering hooking up a small LAN with about 4 machines running OS/2
>2.0, and perhaps one DOS machine (non-server).  I would like to use Ethernet.
>There will probably be only one server, but I would like to share drives
>across all machines.
>What would be my cheapest setup?  I'm mostly worried about the cost of
>software.  What LAN software can I get for OS/2 2.0 (with a possible
>DOS client) that is CHEAP?  Which Ethernet cards are supported by this
>software?

Currently the least expensive way that I know of to set up a
peer-to-peer LAN under OS/2 (which is really what you're saying when
you say you want to share all drives) is with a TCP/IP package like
IBM's TCP/IP 1.2.1 for OS/2.  It should be about US$200 per station at
academic pricing (with base plus NFS for each station).  Not dirt
cheap, but not awful either (and you get a very nice package with
talk, mail, remote login/execution, and even a sample newsreader).
Any ethernet card with an OS/2 NDIS driver will work (and you can look
at the list on ftp-os2.nmsu.edu -- it is very long indeed).

There are of course DOS packages (e.g. NetWare Lite) which do run but
are somewhat inelegant under OS/2 (in the sense that they do not take
advantage of any of OS/2's special features).

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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: ATI Graphics Ultra: Are you sick of it yet?
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:56:46 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <BrtELr.Ky5@news.cso.uiuc.edu> gsbg9079@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (G. Scott Braley) writes:
>
>	I know that a lot of video card info has passed through this
>group, but I would like some assistance with mine.  I have just purchased
>an ATI Graphics Ultra/1MB.  I will be installing OS/2 onto a 130 MB hard
>drive, with just one FAT partition.  The only other accessory running notw
>is an ATI Stereo/FX board.  Could someone Email me the settings, etc needed
>to configure OS/2 to take advantage of my equipment, esp. the video card?
>I keep hearing about different drivers, etc.  Could someone tell me what to
>do to get them and install them?
>
>	Oh, I am using an NEC/3D monitor.

OK.  First of all, you realize that 1024x768 will be interlaced on a
NEC/3D.  This is in the monitor's specs.

Anyhow, from a full-screen DOS session, run the INSTALL program that
came with the board, and set the monitor type to NEC 3D, etc.

That being done (you may have to reboot...), go to the Selective
Install utility (OS/2 System -> Setup -> Selective Install), and
install the 8514/a drivers.  This will get you a 1024x768 desktop.

If you'd rather use the 800x600 mode of the Ultra, ATI has OS/2 1.3
drivers which will work for this.  Download them and install them as
per the instructions that come with them.

After rebooting, you should have a lovely hi-res accelerated desktop.
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From: vcsc2132@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Henry Yeung)
Subject: Re:  What does TRAP 000e mean?
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 07:00:33 GMT

>In article <1992Jul22.234448.6530@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> tselling@peabody.iusb.indiana.edu (Teresa Selling) writes:
>>I was happily typing along in TE/2 comm program when my system halted
>>with a TRAP 0003.  What does that mean.  Perhaps I should mention
>        ^^^^^^^^^ 
>			typo should be TRAP 000e
>
>>that I've not been able to download with TE/2.  I wind up using a dos
>>comm package for that.
>>Thanks.
>>--
>>Teresa Selling, IUSB, Indiana.

I have the same problem using Procomm plus for windows under OS/2.
But it only happened once....
Here is the message that I got when the system crashed last time:

--
The system detected an internal processing
error at location ##0160:fff6453f - 000d:a53f
60000. 9084

048600b4
Internal revision 6.311, 92/05/14
--

--Henry Yeung
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Current & parent dir entries in HPFS root
Keywords: current & parent, HPFS root
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:55:06 GMT

In article <249@zam103.zam.kfa-juelich.de> kiehl@ibt013.ibt.kfa-juelich.de (Horst Kiehl) writes:
>In my HPFS root directory I have a current and a parent directory entry --
>those that are usual in subdirectories but not in parent directories.
>(Or am I missing this being different on an HPFS drive?)

Entirely normal.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Subject: Has anyone made a Boot Disk?
Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:53:51 GMT

Has anyone tried making a boot disk (as opposed to the usual install
disk then disk 1 then Esc key)? I grabbed the bootdisk.txt file from
ftp-os2 site, and followed it to make myself a bootdisk. I tried
booting from it and OS/2 booted up just fine. But when I tried to do a
"dir" on C:\, I get the error.....

SYS00026: The specified disk or disketter cannot be accessed.

I'm using the Boot Manager for DOS 5 and OS/2, and at this point Drive C: 
is my OS/2 system partition formated as HPFS. Now if I ran DOS last so that
my DOS system partition was my last bootable partition so that when I boot
from floppy, my Drive C: would still be my DOS system partition which
is FAT, I can read it ok using this OS/2 bootdisk. It's just if I ran OS/2
last so that my OS/2 HPFS is now Drive C:, booting from this OS/2
bootdisk now, it doesn't recognize this HPFS or some problem like this.

Has anyone been successful with a bootdisk? Thanks.

Thomas.

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From: pclark@ds5000.DAC.Northeastern.edu (Peter Clark)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2,comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Can I restore a FAT disk on an HPFS partition????
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:07:33 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA

If you install FSFILTER.SYS in your DOS CONFIG.SYS you should be able to read/
write/access any HPFS partition in DOS mode and thus backup, format for OS/2
(assuming that you copy FSFILTER.SYS to DOS partition while in OS/2 and are
installing a dual-boot or boot-manager system with a DOS partition), and then
boot with DOS and restore your backup.

Sorry if that's confusing....
From: pdg@crosfield.co.uk (paul goffin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: TO Simon Mackin (?) at cc.curtin.edu
Date: 30 Jul 92 07:39:52 GMT
Organization: Crosfield Electronics, Hemel Hempstead, United Kingdom.

In article <1992Jul29.170605.1@cc.curtin.edu.au> smackinl01@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
>Sorry for this post, but I don't have EMAIL access....

>My SCSI controller is a Future
>Domain 8xx Compatible, without any on-board cache. Under Windoze, the
>performance is moderate to OK, under OS/2 it flies. However, I beleive that if
>one has to use the INT13 driver then performance suffers.
>Simon.

I feel a bit bad about posting this, as I have e-mail, but I guess if
you dont!

I'm been offered a good price on a Future Domain 850.  What are they
like?  Are they 16 or 8 bit?  Do they have a BIOS?  Speed?  Bus master?
(I doubt it at the price!)

Any CD-ROM support?

Thanks in advance.

Paul
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From: "roger ramsey" <roger.ramsey@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: zachmann leaves
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:11:37 EST
Reply-To: "roger ramsey" <roger.ramsey@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

David Charlap wrote on 07-18-92 regarding ZACHMANN LEAVES:

DC>You mean like Norton Desktop does right now?  And like WPS does for
DC>OS/2?  Wow!  Microsoft's new technology is simply bundling
DC>competitor's innovations!

An object oriented file system provides considerably more than simple 
Norton Desktop type functionality.  It provides things like directory 
services and hooks for document management.

Roj



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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: chr@bio129.uni-bielefeld.de (Christian Bartling)
Subject: Re: cant shutdown my system
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 08:10:50 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld

In article <1992Jul28.030423.21113@muddcs.claremont.edu>  
teverett@jarthur.claremont.edu (Toby Everett) writes:
> In article <1992Jul25.180244.1544@midway.uchicago.edu>  
sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
> >In article <19341@plains.NoDak.edu> person@plains.NoDak.edu (Brett G  
Person ) writes:
> >>When I try to shut-down os/2,i get the usual dialogs about shutting
> >>down os/2 dos/os2 boxes etc. Then,  I am left with a non-closed
> >>desktop. I.e. nothing happens.  Any ideas? 
> >
> >It happens sometimes.
> >
> >If it does, just make sure that everything is shut down (your
> >applications) and all your data files are saved.  Then, from the
> >desktop, select Refresh instead of Shutdown.  Then press CTRL-ALT-DEL.
> 	At this point try a Shutdown.  Everytime I have had the Shutdown
> problem, closing all apps so only OS/2 2.0 Desktop is left on the  
Windows
> List has enabled me to Shutdown.  It's as if OS/2 lacks the memory to
> close and save applications, so doing it for it saves it that task
> enabling shutdown.

I had this problem a few days ago and there are two little programms at `  
`hobbes`, which solved the problem:

procsxx.zoo
killem21.zoo

The first one shows the current processes, the second kill the processes,  
you want to.

Procs showed me that the were three PMSHELLS running. I killed them and  
got a system crash. After rebooting there were only two PMSHELLS present  
and a system shutdown was possible.

It seems to be not the finest manner, but for me it works !!

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Christian Bartling
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Can I change the font in a DOS or OS/2 window?
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:06:48 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Jul27.140259.4744@gw.wmich.edu> x91clifton1@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>
>What fonts are available is a function of the graphics driver you are using.
>Fortunatly, with the standard VGA driver from IBM there are many to choose
>from. Simply pull down the control menu (far upper left corner) for the 
>window and select (Change Font, or Font Size--I forget which one).

After making your selection, click on "save" to make the font size
"stick" to all future OS/2 and DOS windowed sessions.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: raf4482@rigel.tamu.edu (REID FORREST)
Subject: OS/2 and Modplay
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:57:00 GMT

Has anyone had any success with OS/2 and programs like ModPlay?  I've tried
and Modplay slows to a crawl, and needless to say what comes out of the speak-
ers nowhere near resembles music.   I have a Covox Sound Master II, and can
use programs designed to Covox, DAC on LPT1, Speech Thing, etc.
Any help would be appreciated.
	Reid Forrest
	RAF4482@rigel.tamu.edu
	Texas A&M University
From: patrice@concour.cs.concordia.ca (SCATTOLIN patrice)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Procomm for Windows: UART OVERFLOW ERROR
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:49:04 GMT
Organization: Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec



 I just installed Prcomm Win.

My problem is this : I get UART OVERFLOW errors when I am trying to use
other windows besides the ProcommWin. Runs on a 486/33 8Mb on the PM desktop
Modem is Telebit T1000 running at 19200bauds with kermit protocol support.
Note that everything works fine when I leave the machine alone. Is there
a way to increase priority of that tread to avoid this?


Thanks

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Patrice Scattolin
					patrice@cs.concordia.ca
Concordia University			Montreal, Canada
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: walsh@spider.wri.com (Jerry Walsh)
Subject: Re: (UK) Computer Shopper review
Summary: Magazines are coming around because OS/2 is selling well
Keywords: Computer Shopper, reviews
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1992 04:59:48 GMT

In article <1992Jul13.110311.24212@wraxall.inmos.co.uk> des@frogland.inmos.co.uk (David Shepherd) writes:
>The UK version of Computer Shopper has been reviewing OS/2 over the
>last 2 issues. I bought the first one and its review tended to be
>a bit cynical and an attempt to knock OS/2. However I scanned the
>second part in a newsagents and it seems to have become quite
>positive .... 

>Looks like some journalists change their preconceptions when they
>actually *use* OS/2.

Or maybe they just see where the market is headed and realize it's
time to cover themselves.

Jer.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mg@elan (Michael Golan)
Subject: Re: Is HPFS faster?
Organization: Princeton University, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: 21 Jul 92 06:32:04 GMT

csci11ba@cl2.cl.uh.edu (451924952 NEWMAN, DANA FRANK) writes:


>I dont think you guys are approaching the problem the right way.  I wouldnt 
>even consider the caches.  Why not just turn both of them OFF and try it?

Because this is not a THEORY problem. No one runs his system without some
sort of cache, so who gives a damn about cache-off performance?!?!?

>The FAT file system uses a linked list to find files.
>The HPFS file system uses a B-TREE to find files.

You mean to find blocks, of course, not files. 

>(For those of you who havent gone to "computer school" my apologies.)

I would like to apologies on your behalf to these people. You prove why
so many think that CS people are snobs, or can't do work in the real world.

>So, if you look at the problem in the context of a linked list or a B-TREE to
>do search operations, its pretty $%^&ed obvious which is faster!

Oh really? How many performance tests have you done on this subject?
Not a O(n) theoretical comparison, but a real one? B-trees (and other
self-balancing data structures) are quite slow compared to simpler
data structures, until you get to large sizes (and since each entry in FAT
is 4k, you need very big files for B-trees to outperform FAT enough to
show any performance difference in real life)

 Michael Golan
 mg@princeton.edu
From: medin@cod.nosc.mil (Ted Medin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: HELP - looking for a scsi cd-rom external drive
Keywords: cd-rom
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:52:54 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego


 2nd try:
 I would like to get an external scsi cd-rom drive that runs on os2.
So if you have one running how about sharing your info with me.
Thanks in advance.
From: kevinl@tisdec.tis.tandy.com
Date: 27 Jul 92 07:39 CDT
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: X-like cut & paste in WPS?
Message-ID: <13000003@tisdec.tis.tandy.com>
Nf-ID: #R:elan:712021071:tisdec.tis.tandy.com:13000003:000:263
Nf-From: tisdec.tis.tandy.com!kevinl    Jul 27 07:39:00 1992


	If you look in the control menu for you DOS sessions, there are
cut and paste commands that actually change the cursor shape and allow
OS/2 to have control over the mouse until you tell it otherwise.  This is
not as easy as X stuff, but the capability is there.
From: wjw@ebh.eb.ele.tue.nl (Willem Jan Withagen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OO File system (was re: os/2's som)
Date: 27 Jul 92 10:59:56 GMT
Reply-To: wjw@eb.ele.tue.nl
Organization: Digital Systems, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands

In article <2178344@overmind.citadel>, unixg.ubc.ca!ochealth@overmind.mind.org writes:
=> In article <BrssDz.Dyw@apollo.hp.com> ced@APOLLO.HP.COM (Carl Davidson) 
=> writes:
=> >
=> >The best example of an object-oriented file system I know of is the 
=> >Apollo Domain file system. It does *precisely* what Pete describes, 
=> >i.e. the I/O system knows how to determine the type of object you are 
=> >
=> 
=> Hahahahhahha!
=> 
=> If NT has an operating system like Domain, it'll fall flat on it's
=> face! Domain's BSD type UNIX sucked rocks! Incompatible, unstable, 
=> unpredictable, etc.
=> 
=> Gimme Sun hardware/software any day over Apollo. Good thing HP bailed
=> Apollo out.
=> 

Prrrrrrrrrrf, hi, ha ha.
I'll bite.

There's nothing more sucking than NFS. A braindead protocol which
unfortunatly has become the defacto standard. (I know: this
discussion shouldn't be here. Try in comp.sys.sun, ....)

We've got plenty of diffent boxes around, and if HP had made the
effort of porting Domain/OS to the HP/7xx, we would have kept one of the 
most advanced OS'es there has been around. 

And it is most certainly not Incompatible, unstable, etc,......
It's only not NFS compatible, but certainly more stable than NFS.

The apollo display system did things on a lousy 68010, which don't even
perform properly under X on an HP/7xx.

And there's a lot more. (It's currently a thread on comp.sys.apollo)

But even in OS/2 there's only a poor man's object-typing to the file
system. If I've got this TeX-dvi file, than I can create an
application, called Dvi-viewer, which is activated when I double-click
on an *.dvi file. The OS sort of knows what application needs to be
executed when the view function is called. It's only a poor man's
object-typing because here it depends on the filename extension.

I think it is also possible to create ones own types, but I'm not shure
yet what that buys me.

	Willem Jan.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: ignacij@meishan.animal.uiuc.edu (Ignacy Misztal)
Subject: OS/2 with HPFS locks up
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:59:32 GMT

For some time I have been running OS/2 2.0 on a 486/33, with 630 Mbyte
disk and a Mouse Systems mouse. The disk was formatted to 528 Mbytes to
get around the 1024 cylinder limit of previous OS/2 versions.
Lately I decided to reformat the disk. I installed the boot manager, 30 Mbyte 
primary DOS partition, and 600 Mbyte OS/2 HPFS partition. The system
has installed fine, including the printer driver. However, upon the subsequent
boot, the screen showed the installation screen (as after loading first 5
diskettes), and the mouse pointer froze. I reinstalled the system again, and 
after the reboot after the 5th diskette, the mouse pointer was working,
but froze soon when the installation window appeared. 
Previously, I have never had any problem with the base OS/2 installation. 
Could it be the HPFS system that is causing the trouble? Or perhaps
too large ESDI disk is not quite supported.
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From: bert.tyler@satalink.com (Bert Tyler) 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: PMFRACT
Date: 21 Jul 92 10:19:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: SataLink Info Systems - Huntingdon Valley, PA - 215-364-3324
Reply-To: bert.tyler@satalink.com (Bert Tyler) 

Doug Lamb (dtl8v@Virginia.EDU) writes:

  Is there a 32-bit conversion [of PMFRACT] in the works?

Donald Egan, the author of PMFRACT, doesn't follow this newsgroup
(I don't think he has direct Internet/Usenet access).  He *does*
have a Compuserve ID, however, and you can reach him by sending a
message to 75307.3143@compuserve.com.

Don has shipped his 32-bit version of PMFRACT (labelled version
17.2 - like Winfract, he's now basing his version numbers on which
version of Fractint's fractal engine he is using). He uploaded it
to Compuserve's COMART forum on July 6th.  Look in COMART in
Library 2 ("New Uploads") for PMFRA2.ZIP (the EXEcutable) and
PMFRS2.ZIP (the source).

  In the PM version of Fractint, despite its advantages over the
  interfaces of both the Windows and DOS versions...

Ooh, fightin' words!  <grin>.  I wrote the original versions of
both Fractint and Winfract, so I'm the one to blame for both of
those interfaces.

We might want to move further discussion along these lines to
'alt.fractals', though, where a higher percentage of the
readers would be interested in it.  Having said that, I'm going
to ignore my own suggestion and respond to the next item right
here - sorry, folks.

  OK, before I get too many replies to my message, I found that
  File/New does what (intuitively) it should have, versus File/Open,
  which allows the loading of a GIF or BMP.  This is the way Fractint
  should have been a long time ago.

No, no, no!  Changing fractal types is just like changing inversion
values, or biomorph values, or 3D values, or any of hundreds of other
options - like changing the font or fontsize on your text editor.
There is no reason to expect to find any of them in "File / New".
Allow me to point out from your initial message that *you* didn't
look in "File / New" for new fractal types at first, either.

                   Bert Tyler   (bert.tyler@satalink.com)
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