HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: WHITESR@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU (*Steve White         )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: frequency plot on Excel 3.0
Date: 19 Dec 1992 01:37:07 GMT
Organization: APPALACHIAN STATE UNIVERSITY
Distribution: world
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In <1992Dec18.113749.2080@nmrf.bioch.ox.ac.uk> kieffer@bioch.ox.ac.uk writes:
> I would like to use excel to draw a histogram of distribution of numbers. 
> To build a list of occurence frequency from a table of numbers, I need a
> fonction which counts the number of occurence of a specified element in
> a table. Does anybody know how to do that ? , Is there any simpler way to do
> it. Drawing histogram of distribution should be a very common task for 
> spreadsheet programs.
> Bruno Kieffer  :  kieffer@bioch.ox.ac.uk


Several months ago I wrote and posted to the net a macro that automated
this sort of thing. It's called FREQ_ETC. It also could be found at
SUMEX-AIM, but I think that they eventually discontinued it. If anyone
is interested, I'll email it (as is). It's shareware.

Steve
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From: a-kraus@uiuc.edu (Albert L. Kraus)
Subject: HOW TO ADD EOF TO BINARY RECOVERED
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: PES
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:19:22 GMT

I RECOVER A BINARY FILE FROM MY HD BUT IT CANT BE OPENED BY THE APP BECAUSE
NO
EOF. WHAT CHAR IS EOF AND WANT APP CAN I USE TO ADD THE EOF. 

Thanks!
Have a nice day!
From: miles@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Miles Abernathy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: re: Compression Utility Question
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:59:56 GMT
Organization: University of Texas
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X-XXDate: Tue, 15 Dec 92 11:59:39 GMT

It is a shame that the newest version of DiskDoubler lost its ability to
encrypt files, even though the encrypted files were clunky SEAs. Is the
overseas market that big, that it required the encryption feature to be
removed from the domestic version?

Regarding AutoDoubler 2, if I choose to upgrade, will I have to do any
conversion to my existing DD 3.7.5 and AD 1.0.5 files? If I do not choose
to upgrade, is there a fix to ADs tendency to forget some of its
settings? I tell it to compact files older than 60 days, but sometimes it
forgets and goes to work on everything older than 2 days.
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From: pascal@CAM.ORG (Pascal Gosselin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: DOS Mounter, Latest Version = ?????
Keywords: DOSMounter
Date: 19 Dec 92 17:35:56 GMT
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada

jmoulder@post.its.mcw.edu (John Moulder) writes:

>> What is the latest version of DOS Mounter?

>The latest version of MacLinkPC came bundled with DosMounter 
>Version 3.0.1, dated 29 Apr 92.

Does this version work with PhotoCD ?   Version 3.0 ejects PhotoCD disks,
even with the latest (CD ROM setup 4.1) drivers.

-Pascal
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From: laug@fraser.sfu.ca (Christopher Lau)
Subject: Multiple Unix Shells
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:28:37 GMT


   
     Hi. I would like to know whether or not there exists a program
(commercial or shareware) which enables multiple unix shells via windows
and allows download protocals such as y/z modem all using the modem. There
is currently a program called Maclayers, but this program only supports
xmodem and lacks a few features which I need.

Please direct mail to laug@fraser.sfu.ca.. I will make a summary of 
the responses (if any).

Thanks.

Chris.
From: grismore@adobe.com (Doug Grismore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Interleaf CGM to Macintosh PICT
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:41:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: 130.grismore-141292084611
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Adobe Systems

In article <1992Dec14.030636.3725@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>, Gareth Swarbrick
<gareth@civeng.unsw.edu.au> wrote:
> 
> Dear vast body of immeasurable knowledge,
> The only available graphics filter for converting
> from Interleaf to some other format is an Interleaf to CGM (Computer
> Graphics Metafile(?)). I have serached both Mac and PC archives but have
> not found any reference to how I might convert a CGM file to, say, PICT
> on the Mac. Can anyone help me?

On the PC, this isn't a problem - there are several products that handle
this set of graphics nicely (HiJaak for cheap, Adobe Illustrator puts a
little AI file in between, but still can be done).  However, I've never
heard of an application on the MAC that could convert a CGM file...

You could always BUY a PC...

--- grismore@adobe.com --- original thoughts, not my employer's --- 
--- and besides, I'm all out of Powdered Toast! TM ---
From: wstrain@azure.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Jeff Strain)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Wanted: Small fast read only text browser.
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:45:38 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments Incorporated, Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: azure.ppe.ppd.ti.com

In article <iscjcw-141292083427@ajax.ucop.edu>, iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu (Jerry Wilcox) writes:
|>
|> I would strongly urge you to take a look at the excellent (and free)
|> program, BBEdit, by Rich Siegel. The current version is 2.2. While it is an
|> editor, it has a wide variety of preferences, one of which includes the
|> ability to open files read-only. You can override this, but not by
|> accidentally typing a character.
|> 
|> (more deleted...)
|> 
|> All in all, an excellent program with excellent support.
|> -----------
|> Jerry Wilcox - iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu
|> All opinions expressed are MINE -- I'd have a different job if the
|> University wanted me to speak for it.

My problem with these editors is that they are not very good for text
files that use paragraph formatting, as most Mac created files will.

I want to view all text in Monaco 9, and have the text wrap at the window
boundary. Most (or all that I have seen) text editors allow you to wrap
at a specified column, or even the window, but this is another step and
must be manually done both at startup and every time you resize the window.
This defeats the drag-n-drop convenience for me.

I have a hacked TeachText that is OK, but it sometimes gets confused and
displays Geneva 12 with Monaco 9 spacing! Also, there is the stadard 32K
size limit.

What we really need is a special purpose, *extremely* fast text viewer that
has been specifically created for that purpose. (Or a TeachText with
a "Font" preference would make me just as happy...)

Regards,

Jeff Strain

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From: kieffer@bioch.ox.ac.uk (Bruno Kieffer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: frequency plot on Excel 3.0
Keywords: excel plot
Date: 18 Dec 92 11:37:49 GMT
Organization: Department of Biochemistry, University of Oxford
Originator: kieffer@nmrf.bioch


Hi,

I would like to use excel to draw a histogram of distribution of numbers. 
To build a list of occurence frequency from a table of numbers, I need a
fonction which counts the number of occurence of a specified element in
a table. Does anybody know how to do that ? , Is there any simpler way to do
it. Drawing histogram of distribution should be a very common task for 
spreadsheet programs.

thanks for answering.

Bruno Kieffer  :  kieffer@bioch.ox.ac.uk
From: miles@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Miles Abernathy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: PictureBase Replacement?
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:03:33 GMT
Organization: University of Texas
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X-XXDate: Tue, 15 Dec 92 09:03:15 GMT

PictureBase was a good old image database. First you put all your clip
art (PNTGs and PICTs only) into files called Libraries, and then you
typed in keywords to describe each image. Inputting the keywords took
quite a long time, but after it was done, you could use the PB Retriever
desk accessory to search for images by keyword. 

The interface was a little offbeat, and searches on a Mac Plus could take
a while (about 5 minutes for about 60 libraries of roughly 15 images
each), but it did the job. Old as it is, it still works on System 7.0.1.

Is there anything newer out there that will do at least as much, and
accept or convert existing PB libraries?

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From: max@currawong.bhs.mq.edu.au (Max Coltheart)
Subject: Re: Statview Printing problem
Keywords: Statview
Organization: School of Behavioural Sciences, Macquarie University, Australia
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 22:40:06 GMT

In article <1giub9INNdln@post.its.mcw.edu> jmoulder@post.its.mcw.edu (John Moulder) writes:
>Is anyone else having a problem printing from the new version of Statview?
>
>System: 6.0.8
>LaserWriter Driver and Prep: 7.0
>Statview: 4.0
>Appleshare PrintServer 3.0
>
>Problem:  When printing "views" the program crashes as soon as it finishes 
>spooling to the printer (it does printing correctly).
>

I have exactly the same problem with System 7/HP DeskWriter. Tables I
can print but views have to be saved and printed from a word
processor.

What's the solution?

MaxC
From: rgonzal@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Ralph Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Wrap text WITHIN a graphic: How?
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:24:43 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Ladd.Morse@p804.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ladd Morse) writes:
> 
>  GF> She occasionally has a need to create text in a large oval shape.  The
>  GF> problem is, most software that does text wrapping assumes you want to
>  GF> go AROUND an object.  She wants to draw an oval and have the text wrap
>  GF> WITHIN the oval.

>This can be done quite easily with FreeHand.

I haven't tried this, but can you make two graphics, representing
the area to the left and right of the oval, and wrap the text around
them to "fill in" the oval? For example, make graphics in a draw 
program like this:

***** *****
***     ***
*         *
*         *
***     ***
***** *****

^^^^  ^^^^
Left  Right

-Ralph
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From: sjs@netcom.com (Stephen Schow)
Subject: Wanted: drop & print program
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:52:16 GMT

I have been hearing about programs which you use to drop and print to 
appletalk printers.  In other words, I can drop a file on an icon which
represents a network printer.  Anyone anything about them and which is the
best?

thanks in advance
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From: fn304@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Viewing DVI files (Re: quit)
Date: 16 Dec 92 13:42:49 GMT
Organization: University of Scranton

In article <GRU9OYK@math.fu-berlin.de>, guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) writes:

Yeah, guckes@math.fu-berlin, you and other people who sent private e-mail do
mention the same point: "why trnaslate from DVI to ps."  No reason.  A DVI
viewer will do just as well.  Thanks for your note.

F. N.
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> 
> Why translate DVI files to PostScript for viewing ?
> There are at least three TeX versions for the Mac that allow viewing
> of TeX DVI files: DirecTeX, OzTeX, and Textures.
From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Powerbook HDs and Silverlining
Date: 11 Dec 1992 19:39:15 GMT
Organization: Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

In article <1992Dec10.155335.1@wharton.upenn.edu> glende20@wharton.upenn.edu
(John Glendenning) writes:
>When partitioning a hard drive using SilverLining on a Powerbook, make sure
>that sleep is not enabled.  Evidently if the sleep mode is on, disk sectors
>could become corrupt.  I really do not know why.

Does this mean make sure that sleep is _never_ enabled, or just while
partitioning the drive?

David Gutierrez
drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu

"Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard
From: watson@clark.edu (Dennis Watson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: SoftAT Scandal?!?!?!?
Date: 17 Dec 92 01:42:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: clark.1992Dec17.014254.365
Organization: Clark College, Vancouver, Wa.  USA

If this is the REAL SoftAT, I don't want it!  I need a C: drive that
can handle more that 1MB (all the other options are grayedout) and I don't
want it to say "For demonstration purposes only" in the title bar!!! If I
use it, I want it to be for something like derive, which isn't avail. on a
mac.  What would I want to demo with SoftAT??
From: long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Inserting Postscript in Word 5.1
Date: 20 Dec 92 15:19:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: sousa.2326
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Dec10.052020.23572@gn.ecn.purdue.edu>, jonkatz@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jonathan W. Katz) writes...
> 
>I have a postscript file (text) that I want to place into Word 5.1.  When I
>attempt to load it, the program says that it's converting an EPS file
>(which it's not), and then says, "Invalid data in conversion file."

 An EPS file is different from a Postscript file generated by the Laserwriter
 driver. A plain Postscript file cannot be placed into a program that is
 expecting EPS. Somewhere, I have a document that describes how a plain
 Postscript file can be modifed to make it EPS format. It wasn't too
 difficult. E-mail if you're interested, and I'll see if I can dig it up.

 Hope this helps,
 Rich

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From: laug@fraser.sfu.ca (Christopher Lau)
Subject: Maclayers errors.
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 01:33:16 GMT

  Hi. I just downloaded maclayers and this program is great. But there are a
few problems I cannot correct myself, so I need some help.

The problem is simple: I have a Mac LC with system 7 with 2 megs of RAM.
When I enter maclayers and dial into the university unix system and enter
layers mode, the program works fine. It is when I close a window(thus aborting
that process shell) the whole layers mode freezes. Nothing I do will change 
this except when I abort the layers mode. When I do this the terminal is still
frozen and I was forced to do a cntrl-c (break) which then gives me power
to use the terminal again. I must add that during the installation of this
program(on the unix side), the last part of it failed.. this was when the 
installation process tried to modify the utmp file in the root directory. 
Could this be a result of the errors.

Thanks in advance.

Chris.
From: doherty@msc.edu (David C. Doherty)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: xterm on a Mac
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:26:06 GMT
Organization: Minnesota Supercomputer Center, Inc.
X-Xxdate: Fri, 18 Dec 92 16:19:19 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d15

In article <28047@dog.ee.lbl.gov> Francis Pang, fran@pang.lbl.gov writes:
>    I recently run MacX on my Mac and have
> xterm popped up from my workstation, but
> I was not able to drag the scrollbar of the
> xterm with the mouse. 

There is a very elegant discussion of this in your MacX 
User Guide.  See the discussion beginning on page 27.

> Moreover, MacX does not
> able to display any x application in color. 

I refer you to the very lucid discussion which
begins on  page 61.

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From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes)
Subject: Re: Grammar Checker Recommendations?
Originator: guckes@medusa
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:31:24 GMT

kelly@lclark.edu (Kelly Wainwright) looks for spelling checkers.
Here is the beginning of the upload info of "Excalibur" that was
recently (Nov 26) posted to comp.binaries.mac:
-----
From comp.binaries.mac Thu Dec 17 05:28:14 1992
From: zaccone@bucknell.edu (Rick Zaccone)
Newsgroups: comp.binaries.mac
Subject: Excalibur 1.2 (part 1 of 9)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 92 18:00:17 GMT

[Excalibur 1.2 - part 1 of 9]

---
Excalibur is a Macintosh spelling checker for LaTeX documents. It also
does a fairly good job with plain TeX files.  It reads files of type
TEXT and it is smart enough to ignore most LaTeX commands and a fair
number of plain TeX commands. Since it just ignores these commands, it
will also serve quite nicely as a spelling checker for any TEXT file
that doesn't contain any LaTeX or TeX commands. (It is not completely
accurate to say that Excalibur ignores LaTeX commands. It will process
any arguments that contain text).

Excalibur is a stand-alone application that we have tested with both
OzTeX and Textures documents. The fact that it is a stand-alone
application should not present any inconvenience since it works with
MultiFinder under System 6 and it is System 7 aware.

You will need System 6.0.4 or higher to run Excalibur.

There is extensive on-line help.  You will find it under the Apple menu
if you are running System 6, and under the Balloon Help menu if you are
running System 7 or greater.

Excalibur is free.

[Rest deleted. Please see comp.binaries.mac for further info.]
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From: ccorbato@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Charles Corbato)
Subject: Re: Mixed Case -> Upper Case in Excel?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:19:35 GMT

In article <derosa.724361616@mica> motcid!derosa@uunet.uu.net writes:
>Is there a way to convert mixed case characters
>to Upper case in Excel?  I just got done doing it
>but there has *GOT* to be a easier way.
....[long litany of attempts to successfully convert]

Excel 4.0 has a function UPPER(text) which converts text to uppercase.


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From: nadeem@wam.umd.edu (Nadeem Malik)
Subject: Student Registration & Class Scheduling App on the Mac??
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:57:33 GMT


I am looking for any information on Mac software which will allow a
small school to register and schedule classes for approximately 250
students.

The program should allow for:

More students in the future
Reporting features of registration & transcript information
Nice if it was multi-user but not necessary


Any info on such a product would be very useful.


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From: markh@cs.washington.edu (Mark Hirayama)
Subject: Re: MS Word document ruler size on the Classic
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 16:14:20 GMT

In article <102103@netnews.upenn.edu> hsusy@widget.seas.upenn.edu (Song-Yi(Sonny) Hsu) writes:
>
>Hi,
>
>I use MS Word 5.0 as my word processor on my Classic with a 9 inch monitor.
>
>The papers I write are usually 6.5 inches wide, leaving a 1 inch margin on both
>sides of the printed paper.  Because the compact Macs have screens less the
>6.5 inches wide, I have to scroll the window to read parts of a document.
>However, I occasionally opened up files that have a narrower ruler so that the
>entire page would fit on the small screen.  Could someone tell me how I can 
>change the program's default so that every new document would fit on the 
>small screen?

Hi!

I am going to assume that you are using an ImageWriter printer.  If you are,
this should work.  If you aren't, I'm not sure what is going on....  :-)

That being said, try this:

1)  From the File menu, choose Page Setup.

2)  Select 'Tall Adjusted' to put an 'x' in the box.

3)  Select 'Use As Default' if there isn't already an 'x' there.

4)  Click OK.

>
>
>Thanks.

Let me know if this works for you, OK?

Mark


>
>Sonny Hsu
>
>hsusy@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
From: iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu (Jerry Wilcox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Wanted: Small fast read only text browser.
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Date: 14 Dec 1992 16:41:02 GMT
Organization: University of California, Office of the President
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ajax.ucop.edu

In article <1992Dec12.023602.9179@netcom.com>, saf@netcom.com (Steve A.
Feinstein) wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm trying to find a small compact quick text browser that I can drag
> and drop a text file onto under System 7.1
> 
> I quite often have the need to view a number of files for refernce
> information and it would be really great if I could select the file
> from a finder window and drop it on a browser program that'll let me
> do searches (regexp's would be a great plus) and scroll up and down
> quickly.  It's important that I not be able to modify the file because
> these are C header files and it'll really screw things up if I
> accidently add a character here or there.
> 

I would strongly urge you to take a look at the excellent (and free)
program, BBEdit, by Rich Siegel. The current version is 2.2. While it is an
editor, it has a wide variety of preferences, one of which includes the
ability to open files read-only. You can override this, but not by
accidentally typing a character.

The BBEdit search includes regexp. The program is very fast, and can
operate on large files (limited only by the amount of RAM you wish to
assign to the application). You can configure a wide variety of options,
select fonts and styles, and hav it remember and respect the "state"
information added to files by various editors such as MPW and Think C. If
you are an MPW user, BBEdit is toolserver-savvy.

All in all, an excellent program with excellent support.
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All opinions expressed are MINE -- I'd have a different job if the
University wanted me to speak for it.
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