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From: tahonen@cc.helsinki.fi
Subject: Re: Beatles video list
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 11:01:34 GMT

In article <1i23qjINN4a9@menudo.uh.edu>, edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen) writes:
> ===============================================================================
>                   A summary of the Beatles on video
>                             by Ed Chen
>                           January, 1993
> =============================================================================== (deleted) 

(deleted)

> ===============================================================================
> John Lennon
> ===============================================================================

(deleted) 

> John Lennon Live in New York City -- The afternoon concert for Geraldo Rivera's
> "One to One" foundation, at New York's Madison Square Garden on August 30, 1972
> The video really doesn't do Lennon justice.  Mediocre material from the 
> "Sometime in NYC" album, and a rather sloppy band (Elephant's Memory) make for
> poor viewing and listening.  However, the show does pick up a bit when Lennon
> moves to other material such as "Instant Karma", "Cold Turkey", and the only
> Beatles number of the afternoon, "Come Together".  The cinematography is 
> average, and the lighting often puts shadows on John's face.  However, the 
> tape is still interesting as a historical document, and at the discount prices
> it is currently being offered for (in most places, the video is cheaper then 
> the CD) worth owning.

(deleted) 

> ===============================================================================
>                         My personal video wish list
> ===============================================================================

(deleted) 
 
> John Lennon: One to One -- The afternoon performance of this series of 
> two concerts is available on "Live in NYC".  While a release of the evening
> concert (which was aired as a special on American TV) might be a bit redundant,
> it would still be much appreciated.  The performance is better (Elephant's
> Memory guitarist Wayne Gabriel describes it as "hotter"), the presence of short
> interviews, and the more interesting camera work would make for a better 
> overall video.
 
There has been published a video called "John Lennon: One-to-One Concert". It
includes "Superstition" by Stevie Wonder, two songs by Roberta Flack (?),
"Sisters Oh Sisters" by Yoko, 3-4 songs by John, an all-star rendition of "Give
Peace A Chance", and "Imagine" by John, apparently playing over end-credits. I
haven't seen the video itself, only the tape box, and the above info is from
the back cover seen the last time before Xmas, so mistakes are possible. I have
no idea whether these songs are from the afternoon or evening concert, and I
don't thing it was mentioned on the cover. The video is released by BMG.
 
Timo Ahonen

>
> <ESC>
> -- 
> Something in the way she moves, attracts me like a pomegranate.
>                                      -- George Harrison
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From: jbmorris@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Jeff Morris)
Subject: Re: John Sinclair
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 05:23:19 GMT

Yes, it is on boot.  One that it's on is _(The Alternate) Sometime in New York
City_ on John Records #003.  It may also be on Lost Lennon Tapes somewhere.
On his 1972 David Frost Show appearance, he also uses these lyrics, inserting
a "who's that?" after Pun Plumandon.

- Jeff ("What else can the whole world do?")
From: akazamer@husc8.harvard.edu (Annette=Kazmerski)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Paul McCartney Tour?
Date: 13 Jan 93 01:27:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1993Jan12.202709.19257
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

Does anyone know the dates/places/starting point of Paul's '93 tour yet?
I know the album's due out on February 9, but haven't heard anything else.
Thanx.

Annette 
-- 
<akazamer@husc.harvard.edu>  
"Rock n' roll has always been the devil's music."
				--David Bowie
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From: jbmorris@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Jeff Morris)
Subject: Re: Help!  CD  oddity
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:23:27 GMT

Correct.  George Martin remixed both Help! and Rubber Soul.  He pretty much
kept the mixes the same (unfortunately, especially for RS), but one small thing
that he did change was in "It's Only Love".  In the first chorus on the old
version, the backing vocal drops out briefly due to a tape defect.  He fixed
this by patching in a part from elsewhere in the song, but it's slightly out
of sync.
These are the only 2 CD's that claim to have been remixed, but it seems to me
like maybe some more, like MMT, have been.  My reasoning for this is that if
you play only one channel of MMT, there is absolute separation between the
channels.  That is, if something is mixed into the right, and you're only
playing the left, you don't hear it at all.  But, on the Compact Disc EP
Collection, which was taken from the original EP masters, there is not
absolute separation between the channels on MMT.  Also, the mix of "I Am the
Walrus" is slightly different in that the right channel comes in a bit earlier
at the beginning.
In fact, I'd be willing to bet that all of the ones after Revolver were
remixed.  None of these specify AAD or ADD.
From: labson@borneo.corp.sgi.com (Joel Labson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Dave Clark 5
Date: 4 Jan 93 19:01:18 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

Can anyone make me a copy of Dave Clark 5 albums on tape....I'll
pay....
-- 
Thank You Very Much  
Joel
From: knotts@hpl-opus.hpl.hp.com (Tom Knotts)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:17:41 GMT
Subject: Re: A little more on Mark Chapman.
Organization: HP Labs, High Speed Electronics Dept., Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles

In rec.music.beatles, gaukur@rhi.hi.is (Kristjan Gaukur Kristjansson) writes:

> Mostly to those who think FBI or some such had anything to do with it.
> 
> From 'The Stephen King Companion' by George Beahm (without permission).
> 
>     Stephen King's Number-One Fan
> 	A Real Horror Story*
> ----
...

> "Best Wishes to Mark Chapman from Stephen King."  It was the guy who killed
> John Lennon.  And in the course of our discussion, he described himself as ...
> my number-one fan.
> ----
> *From King's Virginia Beach lecture, September 22, 1986.

Now that you bring this up, what do people think happened? There was
some guy who kept calling KGO and claiming that there was some kind of
Stephen King conspiracy behind Lennon's murder.  But KGO wouldn't let
him speak, and I never heard the details. I think KGO finally got a
court order preventing him from calling, but I think he might have had
it reversed, because he called recently and Michael Krazney let him
speak a little bit.

Inquiring minds want to know...

Tom
From: zaphod@enterprise.ksu.ksu.edu (Jeff Rountree)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: << .au sites? >>
Date: 8 Jan 1993 01:04:59 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
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The title pretty much says it all.  I'm lookin' for a site(s) that have .au (or
even .voc, .mod or .snd).  Thanks for any and all possible help.

E-mail replies please.
-- 
| zaphod@matt.ksu.ksu.edu | I wouldn't trust myself any farther than I 
| zaphod@ksuvm.ksu.edu    | could spit a rat! --> Zaphod Beeblebrox
| -------------------------------------------------------------------- 
| Jeff Rountree, 626 Marlatt Hall, Manhattan Ks. 66506 
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From: jbmorris@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Jeff Morris)
Subject: Re: Beatles in Crossword Puzzles
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:04:18 GMT

I don't get it.
What's the answer?
Via: uk.ac.leeds.scs; Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:21:21 +0000
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 16:22:32 GMT
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Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies
From: ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk
To: usenet@phaze.cam.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: lyrics wanted

In article <endesa.3.726463569@lascar.puc.cl> you write:
>Hi there:
>I'm looking for lyrics of The Inner Light and Flying (MMT).
>Any hint?  Thank U.
>
>Jorge Espinosa (endesa@lascar.puc.cl)

I only posted the lyrics of Flying a year ago (as ross-c@cs.aukuni.ac.nz),
and already someone's asking for them again.

Here they are once more,

	Flying AKA Ariel Tour Instrumental (Lennon/McCartney/Harrison/Starkey)
	------     -----------------------

	La la la la la la
	La la la la la la
	La la la la la la 
	La la la la la la 
	Oooooooooooo ooooooooooo oooooooooooo
	
	La la la la la la 
	La la la la la la 
	La la la la la la
	La la la la la la
	Ooooooooooo ooooooooooo ooooooooooooo
	
Cheers,

Ross-c

PS: For the humour-impaired, :-)
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From: jbmorris@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Jeff Morris)
Subject: Re: CD Singles and EPs
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:16:26 GMT

In article <A55424@MS.maus.de> Patrick_Dubbrow@ms.maus.de (Patrick Dubbrow) writes:
>
>That would be nice!
>
The list has been posted.  Check back in this thread for it.
I've got the American version of the CD5 of "Love Me Do", and it is just in
a normal jewel case and doesn't have Lewisohn's notes!
From: dmac@julia.math.ucla.edu (saki)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re:Music categories
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:37:51 GMT
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department

In article <1993Jan7.212211.29775@seachg.uucp> burke@seachg.UUCP (Michael Burke) writes:
>In article <C0D0x9.6yM@world.std.com> awp@world.std.com (Alan W Pollack) writes:
>>[Re: "I've Just Seen A Face"]:>
>>- Paul is closely *single* tracked for a change on the lead vocal, the
>>  more intimately for us to feel the slight quiver in his voice.  During 
>>  the refrains, he provides his own contrapuntal backing part in the same
>>  nasally affected C&W voice used to back Ringo in "Act Naturally."
>
>I always thought that this was their first Bluegrass tune.

What was their second? :-)

Actually, I don't think "Act Naturally" can be termed a bluegrass number;
it's more aptly categorized as Country/Western, or even slightly rockabilly.
Listen to the Buck Owens original of this song and you'll see how much
of that arrangement the Boys lifted for their own use.

Bluegrass, as I understand it, includes characteristic instrumentation
such as violin, mandolin, banjo, and dobro. If you want to stretch it
a bit, you *might* be able to claim that "Don't Pass Me By" has elements
of bluegrass, but again I don't think it's strictly definable this way.

--
"Here's the first big chart-busting bombshell of '63!!!! The Beatles
have made *THE* RECORD OF THE YEAR!"
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saki (dmac@math.ucla.edu)-----------
From: dmac@julia.math.ucla.edu (saki)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: MGM's MY Bonnie value
Date: 9 Jan 93 22:52:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department

In article <davison.726509311@calspan.com> davison@calspan.com (Vicky Davison) writes:
>
>     Does anyone know the market value of the MGM K13213 release of
>     MY Bonnie/The Saints without the original sleeve. Thanks in
>     advance.

I don't have the latest copy of Perry Cox and Joe Lindsay's "The
Beatles Price Guide for American Records"---latest issue is 1992
and mine is 1990, but value is likely to have held steady to the
following. Check with the newer edition, or with record dealers,
for precise information.

It depends whether you have a Very Good (VG) or Mint condition
disc; anything less is best kept for sentimental value. The
black label version (listing artists as "THE BEATLES with Tony
Sheridan") was $7 VG, $20 mint; promotional copy (yellow
label) was $65 and $150 respectively. MGM released this single
on 27 January 1964, obviously hearing the inevitable roar
of a phenomenon about to hit the States. 

A much more rare American single of "My Bonnie", on Decca
of all labels, was apparently scheduled for release in the
States in April 1962 but was withdrawn before official
release; mint copies of this went for $5000 a few years
ago, with promo copies listed at $1250. Both have been
widely counterfeited as well.

--
"Here's the first big chart-busting bombshell of '63!!!! The Beatles
have made *THE* RECORD OF THE YEAR!"
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saki (dmac@math.ucla.edu)-----------
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From: chris@labtam.labtam.oz.au
 (Chris Taylor)
Subject: All you need is love
Organization: Labtam Australia Pty. Ltd., Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 00:16:47 GMT
Keywords: All you need is love

The guitar solo on "All you need is love" seems to stop suddenly.
Does anyone know if this was a mistake but was left this was just to be 
quirky?

I know that this song was semi-live performed on T.V for a satellite link up 
and I have read that the vocals, bass, drums and orchestra were live
(and John Lennons vocal was re-recorded for the single).
Rhythm backing tracks were pre-recorded but I don't know where/when the 
guitar solo was done.

Perhaps George stuffed the solo on the live to air performance and they
left it that way ?




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From: jbmorris@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Jeff Morris)
Subject: Re: CD Singles and EPs
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 05:32:35 GMT

Re: Matchbox
You're right!  I had forgotten all about that.  Sorry!  The double-tracking
done was two different takes (manual double-tracking), and the other one is
louder on the stereo.
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From: jbmorris@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Jeff Morris)
Subject: Re: Seeking Beatleg Info
Keywords: goo goo ga goob
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:10:37 GMT

I've seen the MMT Demos disc.  As I recall, it basically has like the stuff
from YD's Acetates, and then several tracks taken from the stereo film
soundtrack.
The Nothing But Aging I've seen was LP; I'm not sure if the CD is the same or
not.  The LP has stuff like a few demos ("Hey Bulldog", "Strawberry Fields
Forever", "Sour Milk Sea", "While My Guitar Gently Weeps", "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da",
"Cry Baby Cry", "Jubilee", and "Circles" - all the same as what's on Unsurpassed
Demos, I'm sure.), a couple of isolated tracks from some songs ("Happiness is
a Warm Gun" and "I'm So Tired"), and "Something" - I forget what that is.

- Jeff ("...as I'm sitting here doing nothing but aging.")
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From: jbmorris@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Jeff Morris)
Subject: Re: Japanese pressings
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 08:10:24 GMT

I'm not really up on values, but I thought I'd tell you that if they're mono,
in general they're worth more.  Japan reissued all the mono stuff on red vinyl
about a decade ago.  They also just last year reissued all the British LP's,
but the song versions are the same as on the CD's (except A Collection of
Beatles Oldies, of course).

- Jeff ("...but Goodies!")
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From: petex@cix.compulink.co.uk (Peter Christian)
Subject: Re: george, ringo, john, and ... buddy?
Reply-To: petex@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:27:00 +0000


> my friend suggested that we would be talking about 'the
> american invasion' of british music, and the beatles would be 'just
> another local skiffle band with a local following.'

Two things come to mind on this:

Although no one uses the term `invasion', that is after all exactly
what happened to British music in the 50s. The Beatles were just the
first people to come up with something that was `post-invasion',
something worth sending back, so to speak.

Which leads to the second point: no matter what had happened to Buddy
Holly, the Beatles mixed his influence with that of people like
Smokey Robinson & the early Motown stuff and so produced something
that wouldn't have been seen as just Holly imitation even if he'd
still been alive. (The Beatles vocal harmonies, for example, are not really
indebted to Holly at all, it seems to me.)

By the way, does anyone know if the Complete Buddy Holly is going to
be released on CD. There's no sign of it over here, alas.

Peter
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From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: george, ringo, john, and ... buddy?
Date: 9 Jan 93 01:45:12 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

What if Buddy Holly had lived?   A few speculative thoughts:

1) His best (IMHO) songs were written immediately before his death.
"Peggy Sue Got Married", "Learning The Game", and "That's What They Say"
were written just before he left on his last tour and recorded only
on his tape recorder at home.  The songs were treated to some
terrible overdubbing and released.   They were hits, as were other
earlier Holly recordings that were overdubbed during the '60's.
(e.g. "Brown-Eyed Handsome Man", which went #1 in the UK)  He
certainly would have written more fine songs.  He was only 22
when he died.

2)  The Crickets would have re-formed.  (Holly had a telegram
from Jerry Alison and Joe B. Maudlin waiting for him at his
next tour stop, but Buddy was killed the night before)

3) The Crickets would have made hits out of Buddy's new songs.
This would have helped stem the decline of American rock and roll.
They would have inspired other musicians to write their own songs
and be self-contained like the Crickets were.

4) Perhaps another Holly-inspired group, maybe an American group, 
would have burst onto the scene before 1963.  Perhaps some of the
American groups that turned to folk would have gone rock-and-roll
instead.  Perhaps there would have been a pre-Beatles Beatles.

5) The creative explosion of LP rock (from Sgt Pepper to the
mid '70s)  would have happened sooner.  Holly was already
experimenting with different sounds, styles, and recording techniques
in 1957.  He certainly would have continued it had he lived.

6) The Beatles would have led the British invasion of 1964, just
as they did.   However, I think their early music would have
been a little different- maybe more advanced.   They would
have entered the scene in an environment more like the mid-60's.


If only the pilot had known how to read the gyro of that Bonanza ...
or the snow hadn't fallen in Iowa that night ... or Buddy decided to
take the bus instead ...


-- 

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Project Manager, MIS Sales/Marketing Systems    uunet!pyramid!infmx!randall
From: larson9627@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Help!  CD  oddity
Date: 12 Jan 93 09:59:57 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

I have a question about the Help! CD.  I just bought it, and noticed that it
was ADD.  How can that be?  Did someone remix it or what?

Thanks, 

Glenn Larson
larson9627@iscsvax.uni.edu
From: edc@dna.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: A Beatles movie nver made
Date: 11 Jan 1993 18:24:40 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
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In article <1993Jan7.202319.1193@e2big.mko.dec.com>  
page@cgvax2.enet.dec.com (Brad Page) writes:
> 
> 	There WAS a stage version of "Up Against It" staged a few years 
>   ago, featuring music by Todd Rundgren (who would have made an 
>   excellent 5th Beatle himself).

..or an even more excellent member of "Ringo's All Starr Band, Mk. II"

:-)

[dear ghod, not this topic again!  At least it's not more PID]

<ESC>
--
Something in the way she moves, attracts me like a pomegranate.
                                     -- George Harrison
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From: brennan@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Joseph Brennan)
Subject: Re: Beatles video list
Reply-To: brennan@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Joseph Brennan)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:14:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.210357.33@condor> waltersm@logica.co.uk writes:

>Which version of Yellow Submarine has been used for the video release?  My
>understanding is that the original US release differed from the norm as it had
>Hey Bulldog removed - can someone confirm this?  

The videotape marketed in the US within the past few years does not
have "Hey Bulldog".  I think in answering this question, we may need
to say which version or at least which country.  I hear YS is out of
stock in the US now and someone will need to check the next release.
Where is "Hey Bulldog" anyway?  Another live segment at the end, or what?

>Assuming this makes 2 versions, there is a 3rd which does have Hey Bulldog but
>does not have Baby You're a Rich Man;  in place of Baby You're a Rich Man
>(which fades in after Ringo puts his hole on the big glass ball) the
>dialogue ("decanting"...) continues for about three minutes.  Since the
>usually overlaps Baby... it would seem that this is actually a different
>proper cut as opposed to it being tampered with for broadcast.

In filmmaking it is very common to put songs, dialogue, incidental
music, and sound effects on different tracks.  I've never heard of this
case before, but it really sounds like somebody goofed and didn't put
in the song track there... if I'm understanding right that the visual
is the same and the dialogue matches what is heard over the song?

--Joe Brennan

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From: johniac@austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti)
Subject: Re: Macca Release Date
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 93 00:11:42 GMT
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In article <C0r3zp.6n7@acsu.buffalo.edu>, bsk@acsu.buffalo.edu (Brian Scott Kazmierczak) writes:

|> What's the release date for the US (Or Canada) for Macca's new single? I have 
|> not seen it around (of course, the record stores around here stink for the
|> most part) yet, but thought it was due early January. Thanks,

It was released the last week in December, but I have to admit I haven't gone
to look for it yet.

--
John Iacoletti       IBM AWS Austin       Internet: johniac@austin.ibm.com
        My opinions do not reflect the views of the IBM Corporation
"Why should I be tarred with the epithet 'loony', merely because I have a pet
 halibut?"
From: edc@dna.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: John Sinclair
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:37:48 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
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In article <1hsckoINNjql@agate.berkeley.edu> bh@anarres.CS.Berkeley.EDU  
(Brian Harvey) writes:

> If I'm remembering correctly, John Sinclair was the founder of the
> White Panthers, a Detroit-area militant radical group modeled after
> the Black Panthers [not such an uncommon tribute in the late 60s and
> early 70s -- my favorite was the Grey Panthers, a militant senior
> citizens group that sounds like a joke but was actually very serious
> and played a large role in the fight for things like eliminating
> mandatory retirement ages] whose membership were white youth.  They
> were pro-drug so the marijuana arrest seems not unlikely.


To be precise, Sinclair was arrested for having exactly *two*
marijuana cigarettes.  Hence the lyrics:

"It ain't fair, John Sinclair;
 In the stir for breathing air."

Although the lyrics are interesting in light of John's brief
flirtation with radical politics (and still somewhat relevant,
considering the Reagan / Bush "War on Drugs"), the song
(and most of the "Sometime in NYC" LP) are lousy...

<ESC>
--
Something in the way she moves, attracts me like a pomegranate.
                                     -- George Harrison
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