HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: alizard@tweekco.uucp (A.Lizard)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Harrassment
Date: 23 Dec 92 22:27:01 GMT
Organization: Tweek-Com Systems BBS, Moraga, CA (510) 631-0615

J024330@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:

> alizard@tweekco.uucp (A.Lizard) writes in
> Message-ID: <Lq98VB5w164w@tweekco.uucp>
> 
> >If you can't make the Chris Colvins of
> >the user community go away through requests to root or system or
> >postmaster, use kill files. Unless you can catch his type at
> >something actionable. Then... have fun.
> 
> So, what you're saying is, "If you don't like what someone posts to
> usenet, it's ok to incite netters to cause financial injury on an
> individual by posting, 'Compuserve users have to pay for receiving
> e-mail from internet, so bomb away.  Send some large FAQ files uuencoded
> to increase their size.'"  BTW, it didn't work.
> 
> I chose to use Compuserve in order to not use my employer's system.
> Is there anything unethical about that?  Perhaps there is. I just don't know
> I just as well could have posted from one of the many BBS's in the Bay
> Area.  Yes, Mr. Lizard, if people don't like what they hear, read, see

If you can't handle the risk of being flamed in E-Mail or via public
posts for posting stupid and off-topic posts to a newsgroup whose topic
shifted to complaints about your stupidity and thoughtlessness in posting
subsequent to your posts, you have no business participating in Usenet.
If you don't like this, stay off Usenet. If you don't like accountability
for posting on a public network, don't post. If you wish to use the many
BBS systems in the SF Bay Area to post to Usenet newsgroups, go right
ahead. Of course, if you annoy sufficient people from a BBS, the sysop is
likely to pull your account privileges. Unrestricted freedom of speech is
not something that goes with Usenet access. And if you don't like it,
tough shit. 
A.Lizard

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From: jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu (J. Furr)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,comp.mail.misc,comp.misc
Subject: listserv/mailing list
Date: 28 Dec 92 15:43:09 GMT
Organization: Virginia Center for Lemur Fandom (subscribe to alt.fan.lemurs TODAY)

I'm interested in running a mailing list for a small group of people.  I am
on a BSD 4.3 UNIX system and don't know one whole hell of a lot about UNIX,
but have friends who can be persuaded to do things for me if I do the
legwork first.  Where can I get software to run a listserv or mailing list?
What's the difference between a listserv and a mailing list?
From: bart@netcom.com (Harry Bartholomew)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Internet Access?
Date: 24 Dec 92 09:12:01 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


 	I've heard there is a group called "alt.internet.access.wanted"
From: co940@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Nicholas E. Damato)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Can't delete my own posts?
Date: 29 Dec 1992 04:39:51 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Hello, I am using Cleveland freenet's newsreader,
On several occasions I have attempted to delete obsolete or 
erroneous posts.   I select  'd' for 'delete this article if you
are the author.
 
the program asks me if i am sure i wan't to cancel the article,
i enter 'y' and it says the article has been cancelled.
also the article no longer shows up in the list, and if i try
to read the article by # it says it is not there.
 
Sounds great right?
so how come i keep getting e-mail responses to these so called
"cancelled" articles up to a week later? what am i missing here.
anyone have any ideas?
 
i would appreciate any info greatly, thank you,
ned.
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: kko@fraser.sfu.ca (Samuel Ko)
Subject: Re: looking for a ftp-by-mail site containing PGP2.1
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 10:41:29 GMT

alizard@tweekco.uucp (A.Lizard) writes:

>Please post or e-mail the response to me...
>thanks
>A.Lizard

You can get it from Garbo ...

send a mail message to  mailserv@garbo.uwasa.fi 

Subject: garbo-request

the body of the message: send pc/fileutil/pgp21.zip
                         
Hope this helps ...
From: Virginia.A.Reed@dartmouth.edu (Virginia A. Reed)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Sending messages anonymously
Date: 30 Dec 92 17:47:38 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

I seem to remember that there is a mail address which will bounce any
messages you send it to wherever you want, and will make them
anonymous. Could anyone tell me what this address is?

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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: timd@fenian.dell.com (Tim Deagan)
Subject: REQUEST: uudecode for DOS
Reply-To: timd@fenian.dell.com
Organization: SLAMDANZ CYBRNETX
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 20:36:56 GMT

Does anyone know of an ftp site for a DOS version
of uudecode?

aTdHvAaNnKcSe,
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From: Michael.Malloy <Michael.Malloy@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Using the text editor
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 01:37:06 GMT

I am using tin newsgroup reader and am having a problem posting a reply or new
article. I can write the article but cannot seem to escape from the text
editor to send the article. When I have used the command ZZ nothing happens.
When I have used the command :q! I escape but it does not save the text. I am
new to Unix based text editors so any help or suggestions would be
appreciated. i am sending this from a differnt system.
-- 

Michael.Malloy@mixcom.com
Whitefish Bay, Wisconsin         "Truth is a Virus"                           *                                          
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: jtbell@hubcap.clemson.edu (Jon Bell)
Subject: Re: Questions about rn and access to newsgroups (Re: Reasons for Anonymous posts)
Organization: Presbyterian College, Clinton SC
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:42:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.173208.2936@imagen.com> xyzzy@imagen.com (David McIntyre) writes:

>I believe he is asking the same question I have been trying to figure out 
>for a week or so, myself.  How does one start up a new topic of discussion?
>F will follow-up, but how did the person who posed the original question 
>enter it?

Go to the end of the newsgroup using the "$" command, then hit "f".

Yeah, it's obscure... beats me why there isn't a separate command for
starting a new thread.

Jon Bell / Dept. of Physics & C.S. / Presbyterian College / Clinton SC USA
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: ftp commands
From: GREG <I35BC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Thursday, 31 Dec 1992 15:10:09 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

to read a directory while still ftp'd to another site you can type at the
"command:" prompt .  The command is cms list, or cms <and anyother command that
 you would normally type on your home system in your directory.  It is very sim
ple.  To read your home directory to see if a file was transferre type "cms lis
t"
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From: alizard@tweekco.uucp (A.Lizard)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Happy New Year
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 00:12:36 PST
Organization: Tweek-Com Systems BBS, Moraga, CA (510) 631-0615

20541@brahms.udel.edu (Maverick) writes:

> Happy New Year to all, including Mr. Lizard.
> 
> 
> 

And Happy Holidays to everyone here... including Maverick.
A.Lizard

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From: ed@Tekelec.Com (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Re: Posting subject format question
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 21:36:28 GMT

In article <BzHCrx.8CF@cscns.com> compass@cscns.com (Rueben and spiff) writes:
>After weeding through numerous FAQ's, asking my 'system
>administrator', and reading "The Whole Internet" (a great
>resource), I can not find a reference to the use of [F],
>[M], etc.. in news posting subjects.  Uhmmm.....
> what do they mean?
>
>Thanks for the info
>
>---
>Pat Malone - compass computer solutions
>pat@compass.cscns.com
>(719)576-7900
>
>

   Start off with 'h'. These are listed in the on-line help file.


Ed Campbell
     Email ed@Tekelec.com (maybe)
From: jarnold@tixel.mv.com (Jon Arnold)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Posting to multiple groups at a time
Date: 21 Dec 92 13:26:13 GMT
Reply-To: jarnold@tixel.mv.com


 >In article <1992Dec21.022152.4266@eng.ufl.edu> spp@surf.cis.ufl.edu writes:
 > In article <BzIs0y.KJJ@ulowell.ulowell.edu> gvahe@cs.ulowell.edu (Gerry Vahe) >  writes:
 > >Can someone out there tell me how to post to multiple groups at once?
 > >
 > Second thing to do is to edit the Newsgroups line so that it looks like this:
 > Newsgroups: first.cross.posted.group,second.cross.posted.group,etc.etc.etc.etc

Could you elaborate on this?  I'm using SNEWS v1.90 and I don't think it
works like that.  When I want to post, I simply hit "P" when the arrow is
pointing at the newsgroup.  Where would one specify the other newsgroups
to cross-post to?  Or, is there a different (better?) news reader that
I should consider using?  (MS/DOS).  Also, SNEWS apparently doesn't allow
one to cancel an erroneous posting -- how does one cancel a posting (which
I asked earlier in this newsgroup but nobody answered).

Jon Arnold                        Phone: W: 603-883-1233
Nashua, New Hampshire             Fax:   W: 603-883-7350
                                         H: 603-883-6371

      "If you ain't the lead dog, the view never changes."
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: davego@halcyon.com (Dave Oliphant)
Subject: Re: Need help D/Ling from local node
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 20:46:46 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.231951.119705@marshall.wvnet.edu> aed005@marshall.wvnet.edu writes:
>I'm  a VERY new user of Internet, I just started using it this Monday.  I've
>done some stuff with FTP, and needless to say I already have some questions.
>OK, so I've downloaded a file in C language (UUXFER20) and compiled it.  I've
>also saved some encoded files (namely a GIF) as well.  However, these got to my
>local UNIX system.  I would like to know what commands need to be issued to get
>these files onto MY computer so I can work with them offline.  I saw an earlier
>post mentioning a Kermit transfer.  I'm sure my Telix program supports this. 
>Is this what I need in order to get these files onto my HD?  Please give
>step-by-step instructions if possible:  as I said I'm a new user, and haven't
>quite gotten my Internet legs yet <G>. 
>
>                                         Thanks in advance, 
>                                            Ted
>BTW, public posting is fine, I'm usually on Internet quite a bit....


Since I'm also running telix (ver. 3.20) I'll give it a shot:

start up telix;

type: alt-o (press both the alt and letter o keys at the same time)
      to select the "configure telix" menu;

FIRST:
select: "Terminal options"
select: "N Zmodem autodownloads" and set to ON
press:  enter and return to "configure telix" menu;

SECOND:
select: "Filenames and paths"
select: "A - Download directory"
enter:  the full path to the directory where you want all your downloaded
        files to go.  Mine is "C:\DL"
press:  enter until you return to the "configure telix" menu;
select: "Write setup to disk"

OK. Now you are ready (almost) to download your files;

Connect to your host computer, i.e., where the files are you want to
download to your home computer.

To test for the presence of the zmodem protocol, just type

sz

all by itself and press enter.  If zmodem is present you will see some
brief instructions on how to use it.  If not, you will get a message
something like "unknown command", etc.

If zmodem is present, cd to the directory containing the file(s) you
want to download, and type:

sz <filename>

some specific examples of this are, (assuming I have a file named
foobar.zip I want):

sz foobar.zip

If I have three (or more or less) files, just type all their filenames or
use wildcards to indicate them, thus:

sz <filename1> <filename2> <filename3>

or

sz *.zip

or whatever legal wildcard will work.

Zmoded is an automatic download protocal, so it works pretty much
seamless if you have everything set up correctly.
This means that after you type "sz filename", zmodem does not require
any more keystrokes from you.

Good Luck!
>
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: chu@mtl.mit.edu
Subject: regional groups
Keywords: dc groups
Reply-To: chu@mtl.mit.edu
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 05:49:54 GMT

Is there any way to read regional newgroups remotely?  That is,
I'd like to read dc.general (moving to Washington next month)
from here in Cambridge MA, but my newsfeed only carries the 
ba, ny, and ne groups.  Are there sites in dc that have anonymous 
access?  

                Thanks for any info,

                            Bill 

--
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MIT Submicron Structures Lab     (NeXT mail welcome)
From: macron@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: 7300
Date: 22 Dec 92 01:28:03 GMT
Organization: NYU Medical Center, New York, NY 10016, USA



Hey! Can anyone tell me how to get a list of all the newsgroups on a
particular site?  Or how to switch "locations"?  I am at NYU now, but
was (and still have friends) at Rutgers...Also, I seem to have "lost"
access to a classical literature news-group.  HELP!  Please mail me
with any tips on starting out on this system!

Don Macron
From: aladdin@majik.com 
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Anonymous Posts?
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Date: 22 Dec 92 01:23:00 GMT 
Organization: Kismet, Inc. 
Keywords: 
Nntp-posting-host: cypress.edu
X-tra_Header: one

In article <bern.724610053@kleopatra> bern@Uni-Trier.DE (Jochen Bern) writes:
>
>Let's face the Facts: It IS possible, so everyone who wants to post
>anonymously can do it (if he knows how). Look at the Headers of this
>Article - I forged Path and From, since they don't come up correctly
>from the Newsreader I use. However, you will ALWAYS be able to find
>the Sysadmin of somebody who posted since all News Sites add to the

Bzzt. You need not post the article from a site you have an account on.
Therefore, finding the sysadmin may be quite a bit more difficult. 
( Pouring over nntplogs, which hopefully haven't spooled out the info
you want ) And if the "culprit" posted via nntp from a plain telnet 
server, you will never know.

>Path Field; Compare, say, four Copies of the Article from different
>Sites and figure out what the first constant Part is; This should give
>you the Site where the Article was posted.
>

This is supposing that it was posted from only one site. If the article 
is posted to several sites at once, your theory is worth -0-.
Unless more sites used a system like the one in place at 
sol.ctr.columbia.edu, that is.

>Regards,
>								J. Bern

Oh please trace me,  great gods of the internet.

--
Me.
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From: jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu (Joel K. Furr)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,nyx.misc,news.admin.misc
Subject: Re: Mail Slowdown
Date: 21 Dec 92 18:36:47 GMT
Organization: Virginia Center for Lemur Fandom (subscribe to alt.fan.lemurs TODAY)

In article <1992Dec21.161047.10939@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> gtapolow@nyx.cs.du.edu (Greg Tapolow) writes:
>
>My site has noticed a sever drop in incoming news. It seems to be the
>belief at our site that the cause is from outside the site. Has anyone
>else noticed a severe drop-off and if so does any one know what happened
>and/or is going on? The funny thing is that I am getting news out, just
>not back in.

Nyx is indeed experiencing a *real* dropoff in news.  I'm also reading
news at polaris.async.vt.edu and over the last several days, I've seen
articles show up at polaris that never make it to Nyx, ditto for seeing
articles on Nyx that refer back to earlier articles we never saw.  People
are saying "uunet is down, that must be why," but I asked a clueful person
and they said "if uunet were down, we wouldn't be getting _anything_."

Blinking ponderously, I admit stupefaction.  Anyone?
From: rob@xyzoom.info.com (Rob Lingelbach)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: group for minerals/geology
Date: 25 Dec 92 17:20:30 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Altruistic Intentions, Hollywood CA

I've recently developed an interest in minerals and gems, as found in
rocks of the desert.  The only newsgroup I find in the list I have
that would include pertinent discussions is sci.geo.geology.  I have a
feeling this might be too formal a group, or too learned a gathering
of scientists, for a novice rockhound.  Are there any other groups I
can check into?

Thanks in advance.

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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: jimtan@earth.monash.edu.au (Jianjun Tan)
Subject: Re: Where is my friends?
Reply-To: jimtan@earth.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University Dept of Earth Sciences
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 11:51:39 GMT

In article BKo@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca, lrong@watnow.uwaterloo.ca (Li Rong) writes:
> Can anyone tell me the network address of Israel,
> Weizmann Institute of Science? I have a friend there,
> but I only know his address is XXXX@weizmann.
> 
> Thanks for any help!
> 

 I think it should be xxxx@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il 

Good luck!




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From: jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (J Lee Jaap)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Individual Directory Permissions
Date: 30 Dec 1992 21:47:05 GMT
Organization: AS&M Inc
Reply-To: J Lee Jaap <J.L.Jaap@larc.nasa.gov>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cmb00.larc.nasa.gov
In-reply-to: guimona@JSP.UMontreal.CA's message of 30 Dec 92 08:59:42 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.085942.7047@cc.umontreal.ca> guimona@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Guimond Alexandre) writes:
   I think you should use the chacl command.

On two of my *NIX systems:
% which chacl
no chacl in .....
% man chacl
No manual entry for chacl.

Sounds like a good idea, though.  What brand of UNIX are you using?

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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: younge@nova0.rdrc.rpi.edu (Irwin M. Fargo)
Subject: Re: FIDNET & IBMNET via INTERNET?
Organization: Fargo HQ, Inc.
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 07:01:40 GMT

The only way to directly access FidoNet echoes is to log onto a FidoNet
BBS.  There are a number of Fido BBS's that do receive Usenet newsgroups
and allow their users to post to Usenet newsgroups using special gateway
software.  Your best bet for finding one of these is to pay attention to
the signatures of people who post to the newsgroups or to ask your local
Fido sysop.

The only ways to access IBM's Information Network (IIN) is through the
IBM Developer Assistance Program, the IBM/Link product, IBM's NSC BBS
in Atlanta, GA, or by being an IBM employee.  But, similar to Fido BBS's,
certain Usenet newsgroups are available internally to IBM employees for
reading and posting.  For more informtion on the IBM DAP, IBM/Link or
the NSC BBS, try IBM's general information number at 1-800-IBM-3333.

Enjoy!

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From: bu534@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill E Jones)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: cdp:media.issues
Date: 23 Dec 1992 01:41:29 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


Thanks a lot for answering my question. I really appreciate it.

<sarcasm mode off>
-- 
Bill E.
bu534@cleveland.freenet.edu
A man is a terrible thing to waste.
From: jdsiegel@ocf.berkeley.edu (Joel Siegel)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Rejected?  Aww...
Date: 21 Dec 1992 22:32:28 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandstorm.berkeley.edu

In article <724697886.F00001@leotech.mv.com> epoole@leotech.mv.com (Eric Poole) writes:
>jdsiegel@garnet.berkeley.edu (Joel Siegel) writes:
>
>JS> There's a conspiracy on the net to keep you from
>JS> posting, and thus to censor you.
>
>Betcha he would have appreciated a straight answer ...
>
><sigh>
>

Hopefully he appreciated the irony as well.


If only I had a straight answer to give <sigh>.  But this question 
been on this gropu for a while, and straight answers don't
seem to be forthcoming...

Do *you* have one?  <sigh>

-- 
Joel Siegel <jdsiegel@ocf.berkeley.edu | jdsiegel@garnet.berkeley.edu>
"Politics is the art of preventing people from taking part in
affairs which properly concern them."   - Paul Valery
From: ianst@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (Ian Staples)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Testing what I just said!
Summary: Trying 'F' to start new thread from end of newsgroup
Date: 21 Dec 92 08:05:29 GMT
Organization: Qld Dept Primary Industries

Just cleared this group, went back to it using '-', answered 'y' to
read now, then 'F' to follow up nothing.  At this stage seems to be OK :)


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