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From: eda961asft@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au
Subject: Re: Mark of the Year
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 06:49:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.043207.12589@cs.su.oz.au>, tom@cs.su.oz.au (Thomas James Jones) writes:
> 	Those who followed Channel 7's mark of the year comp
> 	on Saturday, it was Winmar's that won? If so, here is
> 	a quote from James Marinopoulos' summary of the R3
> 	WCE, St Kilda game:
> 
> 	"West Coast played fairly well to record a good win. Four goals in 
> the first quarter by first-gamer Daniel Metropolis set up the victory for 
> the Eagles.
> Paul Peos played a good game in the forward line for the Eagles, as did Lewis
> on the ball. The Saints got to within 12 points in the third quarter, but two
> late goals made the difference 24 points at 3/4 time. Nicky Winmar probably
> took the mark of the year. Watch out for it."
> 			
> 	Also, what happened to Paul Peos + Daniel Metropolis?
> 
> 	tom

Funny that, really!

The "mark of the year" in this Channel seven competition relies more on a
certain players following, rather than the quality of the mark (although it was
a very good mark).  Therefore, if you were a Saints supporter, you would vote
for Winmar and/or Lockett, if you barracked for another team, you would vote
for their representitive etc.

If a player from YOUR team wasn't there, you'd hardly bother voting.

(i know I couldn't be bothered) - even though I voted for Darren Millane in
1990, because he was from MY team.

BTW: thank god West Coast won, because I couldn't put up with the cats winning.
HISSSSSSS

GO PIES.

Anthony
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian,aus.footy,utas.sport
From: justin@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (Justin Ridge)
Subject: AFL Tips: Results for grand final
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 00:53:02 GMT


GRAND FINAL -- summary
----------------------

Entries received  --  31
Disqualifications --   0
Valid entries     --  31

 No.  Email address                          Total
 ---  -------------                          -----
  1.  justin@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au            1
  2.  gav@asgserver.canberra.edu.au           1
  3.  paul@rsesa1.anu.edu.au                  1
  4.  ptaylor@airfarce.canada.sun.com         1
  5.  u895217@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au            1
  6.  ellingsen@physvax.phys.utas.edu.au      1
  7.  amt@mod.dsto.gov.au                     1
  8.  s1180953@giaeb.cc.monash.edu.au         1
  9.  w0vacchi@teaching.cs.adelaide.edu.au    1
 10.  alvin@cs.uwa.edu.au                     1
 11.  t0selvan@teaching.cs.adelaide.edu.au    1
 12.  ilundy@spam.maths.adelaide.edu.au       1
 13.  dermoudy@probitas.cs.utas.edu.au        1
 14.  osborn_j@kultarr.cs.uwa.edu.au          1
 15.  mudge@hfrd.dsto.gov.au                  1
 16.  dwebster@dentistry.adelaide.edu.au      1
 17.  lee_l@kultarr.cs.uwa.edu.au             1
 18.  brad@mullara.met.unimelb.edu.au         1
 19.  taj@mod.dsto.gov.au                     1
 20.  j-arnold@adfa.oz.au                     1
 21.  mgrace@acs.ucalgary.ca                  1
 22.  bd071@cleveland.freenet.edu             0
 23.  gavin@sorokin.anu.edu.au                0
 24.  rakesh@sungear.mame.mu.oz.au            0
 25.  kaz@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au               0
 26.  tmarvan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu                  0
 27.  jjames@leven.appcomp.utas.edu.au        0
 28.  912401@brt.deakin.edu.au                0
 29.  karen@cs.uwa.edu.au                     0
 30.  pnj@mod.dsto.gov.au                     0
 31.  douglas-cerl@nova.novanet.org           0

NOTES:
* Addresses with the same number of correct predictions are not sorted into
  any particular order.
* Remember that your tips are processed by computer... I *do* scan through
  them and correct any spelling errors etc. that I find, but the onus is on
  you.  If you do think there's a mistake, please report it to me so that
  it can be speedily corrected.  Thanks.

Analysis of predictions:

    Game              Score         Tipped correct      As a %age
    ----              -----         --------------      ---------
1.  WEST COAST        16.17.113          21               67.7%
    Geelong           12.13. 85

Justin Ridge.
justin@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au
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From: AJP@buc.edu.au (Alan Penhall)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: VFA Expansion?
Date: 7 Oct 92 03:19:15 GMT
Organization: Ballarat University College
NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.132.16.42

There are alot of rumours about concerning the possible expansion of the
VFA. They tend to be about new teams ( from Ballarat, Bendigo, Latrobe
Valley, and Albury/Wodonga ) joining the competition next year or the year 
after. Does anyone know anything that could substantiate any of these?

Here in Ballarat the rumour is that the North Ballarat Football is interested
in joining the VFA if the fee is lowered. North won last years premiership,
all their games this year and this year's Grandfinal (by over 100 points);
as well as playing in the ~Premiers Cup~. Most people in Ballarat would be 
happy to see them go so that the BFL competition could become more even. 

-AL.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
From: evan@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Evan Harris)
Subject: Nathan Buckley
Reply-To: evan@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Evan Harris)
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
	<EVAN.92Sep24103423@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU>
	<1992Sep25.041307.26302@frodo.cc.flinders.edu.au>
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 00:12:46 GMT

On 25 Sep 92 04:13:07 GMT, psgjf@gamgee.cc.flinders.edu.au (<G.J.Fraser>) said:

Geoff> There's not much Brisbane can do about it if Buckley decides
Geoff> he's not going to play for him.  They at least may get someone
Geoff> good through the draft that does want to play for them.

Well, that's true, they can't make him play for them.  However, they
can stop him from playing with anyone else (as Hawthorn has done with
Robran).

Once he no longer tied to Brisbane he goes back into the draft if he
isn't traded.  The chances of him being left to a successful club
under those circumstances are somewhat remote (unless they do a deal
to get a high draft pick), and the chances of being picked up by
Brisbane or Sydney is quite high (unless they give up on him).

This seems to be the case with Robran -- Adelaide appear to want give
draft pick(s) and Hawthorn want a player.  He is tied to Hawthorn
until after the November draft, so unless they come to an agreement he
goes into the March draft.  He then has to hope that nobody else
drafts him before Adelaide, but some might in the hopes that they can
persuade him to play with them, or just to keep him from playing with
Adelaide.

--
Evan Harris                                     evan@cs.mu.OZ.AU
Dept of Computer Science, The University of Melbourne, Australia
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
From: ins818e@mdw041.cc.monash.edu.au (Pratap Patnaikuni)
Subject: Re: Congratulations Eagles
Organization: Monash University
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 13:46:10 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.174904.1@lure.latrobe.edu.au> staamu@lure.latrobe.edu.au writes:
>Congratulations to the Eagles....outplaying Geelong from half-time
>onwards.......we now have a truely national competition.

>Antony

This is what we need to see - more sporting people around the place (-:
As for my 5 cents worth - well played Geelong, but against the Eagles?  I
don't think so.

-Pratap (Eagerly awaiting a post on Monday from AC!)

P.S.  Jamie, Tony:  Told ya so! (-:

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From: ianr@ee.mu.OZ.AU (Ian Rowlands)
Subject: Re: Final loc'n (was: Congratulations Eagles)
Organization: Electronic and Electrical Engineering - University of Melbourne 
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:05:42 GMT

In article <justin.717810423@tasman> justin@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (Justin Ridge) writes:
>dunleavy@acsu.buffalo.edu (Houston Dunleavy) writes:
>
>>	Couldn't agree more with either sentiment. Congrats should also go to
>>channel 7, who gave their usual great coverage of the game. The feed to Prime
>>was marvellous and did the game and the city of Melbourne proud.
>>	Now all the competition needs is a couple more 100K+ stadiums in Perth
>>and Adelaide and we could talk about spreading the Grand Final around! Mind
>>you, I'm a Melburnian and love the 'G. Any thoughts about the grand Final being
>>held in other cities anyone?
>
>(Melbournian?)
>
>1) Channel 7 are a joke... well, their commentators anyway.  Most people
>   that I know watch the TV with the sound turned down and listen to 3LO.
>   Bring back the ABC!

	Glad you have your opinion - I agree with the 1st opinion. At least
their finals commentary is good, some of their during-the-season stuff was
a little poor (but who wants to see Sydney-Richmond games anyway!).

>2) From memory, the AFL have signed an agreement that guarantees that
>   the Grand Final will be played at the MCG for the next 25 years, although
>   I couldn't be 100% sure of this...

	I can be. The Preliminary and Grand Finals will be at the MCG for the
next 40 years. It was part of the agreement with the Great Southern Stand.
The MCG is the best stadium I've ever been to (but I'm biased, as I'm a
member) and I'm just thankful my team plays all their home games there.

				Ian


Ian Rowlands, former student in  | Uni  : ianr@ee.mu.oz.au 
Dept. of Electrical Engineering, | Home : ianr@gpark.apana.org.au
 (including Computer Science)    | 
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From: tmarvan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Thomas Marvan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Re: No reports from GF??
Date: 3 Oct 92 04:44:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.38915
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <jodi.7.0@arbo.microbiol.uwa.oz.au> jodi@arbo.microbiol.uwa.oz.au (Jodi Lindsay) writes:
>I don't know about everyone else, but I thought Ablett's treatment of Don 
>Pyke was pretty severe........four weeks I would have thought.

Did Ablett get reported and suspended after the GF?  If he did, and
he got less than four weeks, then its a sham.  It seems to me that
Ablett has gone up before the tribunal several times, and each time
gotten off pretty lightly.  No doubt if Lockett or Brereton were up,
the would have received 6 weeks...
>
>Or am I just a biased Eagles supporter??



No, I don't think so.....



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"There's so many different worlds, so many different suns,
And we have just one world, but we live in different ones..."
Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits singing "Brothers in Arms"
From: sanjay@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (Sanjay K. Mazumdar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Re: Premiership blues??
Date: 24 Sep 92 23:37:34 GMT
Organization: Electrical and Electronic Eng., University of Adelaide

In article <jodi.1.0@arbo.microbiol.uwa.oz.au> jodi@arbo.microbiol.uwa.oz.au (Jodi Lindsay) writes:
>I can't believe how tame this newsgroup has become......
>
>Where is all the slagging, mudslinging, griping etc. etc. by the
>Melbournians now that the premiership is going to a foreign team???
>
>Have you all just retracted to your corners to lick your wounds???  Or
>is it deathly silent because you just can't bear to throw your support
>behind the Cats??
>
>Come on the Eagles  -  and show some spirit you Melbourne wooses!!!
>Jodi Lindsay
>Department of Microbiology

I agree - I tried to get some mud-slinging going, but to no avail.
Maybe it will occur after Saturday when all the "ha ha told you so"
messages start flowing. By the way how do you spell wooses? Is
it wusses or  wooses? I can never get that one right!
-- 
Sanjay Mazumdar
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From: sloan@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Davin Sloan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: Well done Weagles....
Date: 30 Sep 92 02:38:40 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia


I'd just like to echo the sentiments of a letter in the Herald-Sun recently: 


  'Well done Perth, you can now claim to be the equal of a Melbourne suburb!'


(Notice, no smileys...)





1993: The year of the Magpie,

Davin                                        e-mail: sloan.latcs1.lat.oz.au
From: sanjay@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (Sanjay K. Mazumdar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
Subject: SANFL news
Date: 6 Oct 92 01:41:07 GMT
Organization: Electrical and Electronic Eng., University of Adelaide


For all of you who are interested, the SANFL Grand Final was played
on Saturday. Port Adelaide played Glenelg and in a powerful display
they showed why they are the best team in SA (boy it hurt me to say
that!). It was Port's 31 premiership (an Aust record) and its fourth
in 5 years. I can't remember the final score - I'm trying to blot them
out of my mind, but you'd think after all the times Glenelg have lost
to Port I would be used to it by now.  Port won by 56 or 58 points -

Port 17.3 (105)
Glenelg 7.7 (49)

or something like that.

Nathan Buckley won the Jack Oatey medal for best on ground and Scott Hodges
kicked 6 goals.

Glenelg also lost the reserves Grand Final by about 70 points to the
Woodville - West Torrens Eagles. Why did I bother going to the games?


In other SA news, Hayden Bunton has been signed to coach the cellar-dwellers
Sturt for the next three years (if that means anything at Sturt!).
Crow player Darel Hart has been appointed playing coach of North Adelaide.
Matthew Robran has been released by Hawthorn to Adelaide in exchange for
Adelaide's 1st and 7th draft choices. Robran is likely to fill Adelaide's
centre-half forward/back position.

Collingwood has apparently stuck a deal with Brisbane to get Nathan Buckley.
The deal consists of paying  $100k up-front, $200k per year to Buckley
and Brisbane will get Troy Lehmann, Paul Williams and a draft choice.
Perhaps some Collingwood supporter can shed further light on this.

Anyway enough for now.

-- 
Sanjay Mazumdar
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.australian
From: tom@cs.su.oz.au (Thomas James Jones)
Subject: Re: Eagle parade
Reply-To: tom@cs.su.oz.au
Organization: Basser Department of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 01:00:14 GMT

In article <jodi.3.0@arbo.microbiol.uwa.oz.au>, jodi@arbo.microbiol.uwa.oz.au (Jodi Lindsay) writes:
|> I have just come back from the West Coast Eagles Parade through the city 
|> centre, ending in a civic reception in Forrest Place.  Not being an expert 
|> at predicting crowd size, I could see at least 5,000 people packed into a 
|> space not designed to hold that many people........ plus numerous others on 
|> the streets.  A news bulletin on 96FM a few minutes ago estimated there were 
|> 50 000 people on Perth streets at the time of the parade.  Admittedly it's 
|> school holidays at the moment, and some of those people would have been from 
|> local offices looking for lunch.  But it was scheduled for midday on a 
|> working day, so a crowd that size in a city of 1 million is not bad.  
|>  

	Today's Australian estimated 100 000 people

|> Jodi Lindsay
|> Department of Microbiology


	tom
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 09:31:00 EDT
From: <ACH2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.misc
Subject: Re: What is Fantasy Football
 <1992Sep22.022201.6342@news.acns.nwu.edu> <92269.192747ACH2@psuvm.psu.edu>

The opening mentioned in the previous post has been filled (already!).
I'm still willin to answer questions on the subject, or send a copy of
our rules.

Alan Hutson
Commissioner, PFC
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.misc
From: aephel01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: American Football Over Seas Question
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:34:37 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

I read through this group because it's usually a small amount of
posts.  As I've read I've been astonished at the talk of leagues
in other countries.  Is American Style Football that popular over
seas?  And approximatley how many countries have leagues and if
possible how long (I saw a post about the 13th or 14th championship
bowl game in germany)?

Thanks

-- no sig necessary --
       Aza
From: blang@cbacc.cba.uga.edu (Brett Lang)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.misc
Subject: WANTED!!! Players for Best of 1986-1990 NFL League
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:04:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbacc.blang.40.718322668
Organization: Terry College of Business, University of Georgia

Hi world!!!

I'm looking for up to 28 players for a best of NFL league simulation season.
I've got the teams (for Micro Pro League) from 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, and 
1990 (all 28 teams).  I plan on setting the divisions and conferences 
similar to current NFL standards with the following exception:
The years of the teams can vary and come from any of the five available 
selections.  If you are interested send a list of the 28 teams in order (
using each team only once).  For each team, include the year that you would 
wish to use should you be assigned that team.  I'll use a Diplomacy-type 
assignment plan which works as:

Anybody who has a unique selection of a team (regardless of year) as a first 
choice gets the team.  Teams with multiple people choosing them will be 
assigned randomly: the winner gets the team and the loser has to hope for 
his/her second choice...This process continues until all teams are assigned.
You have until 5:30 PM Wednesday to submit your choices.

On Thursday, I'll E-mail everyone their assignments and a roster.  You will 
also receive a schedule of upcoming games and a roster of your next 
opponent as well as a coaching form with 104 items that determine your play 
style (including primary receivers/ball carriers, % of running/passing in 
certain downage situations, 2nd half adjustments, etc.)  I'll run the games 
over the weekend and E-mail you results, standings, league leaders, etc. on 
Monday.  You will also receive your next opponents roster and by 3:30 on 
that Thursday, I'll collect your final coaching decisions for that week.  We 
will then continue on the Monday/Thursday result/input schedule (so only 
this first week is going to be rushed (but it will be delayed if we can't 
pull off the rush ie. I don't get enough results by Friday...)

Let me know of your interest...
spots are going fast...

Brett
BLANG@cbacc.cba.uga.edu
From: reille85@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.misc
Subject: WLAF - WHO CARES? NOT ME!!!
Summary: WHO CARES ABOUT THE WLAF?
Keywords: WLAF
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:39:33 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

WHO CARES ABOUT THE WLAF????? I DON'T
CAN YOU SAY U.S.F.L. - BUT MUCH WORSE
I KNEW YOU COULD
Xref: sparky rec.sport.football.misc:443 rec.games.pbm:2666
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.misc

I would have thought that Finland would be a good choice, they have a pretty strong internal setup to their league.

Other strong footballing european nations would include France and Holland.


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.misc
From: alberter@untadh.enet.dec.com (Ludwig Alberter)
Subject: GERMAN BOWL XIV: Duesseldorf 24, Munich 23
Reply-To: alberter@untadh.enet.dec.com (Ludwig Alberter)
Organization: Digital Equipment GmbH, Muenchen
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:07:05 GMT



The subject line tells the result of the German national championship game,
held at Hannover, October 3.

If I've got some time left, I try to post a game report.

--
regards,
Ludwig
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.misc
From: tebarth.bln@sni.de (Dominik Tebarth)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.misc
Subject: Re: American Football Over Seas Question
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:21:15 GMT
Organization: SNE , Berlin, Germany

aephel01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:

> I read through this group because it's usually a small amount of
> posts.  As I've read I've been astonished at the talk of leagues
> in other countries.  Is American Style Football that popular over
> seas?  And approximatley how many countries have leagues and if
> possible how long (I saw a post about the 13th or 14th championship
> bowl game in germany)?

> Thanks

> -- no sig necessary --
>        Aza
Well, the Frankfurt Galaxy of the WLAF drew more spectators
per game in 1992 than the Eintracht Frankfurt Soccer Team !
And the Eintracht is one of the top teams in Germany !
Besides that, there are more and more Am.Football clubs
founded all over Germany, it is surely no "exotic"
sport over here anymore.
The annual NFL preseason match in Berlin draws 60000+ !

Big Problem : Most of the ignorant german sports journalists
(TV and Papers) are too dumb or unwilling to understand the game.
Usually they are "proud" not to understand the
"complicated" rules (excactly the same goes for Baseball).

Having been a die-hard soccer fan for the last 20 years or so
I AM NOW HAPPY TO LIVE IN A PART OF TOWN WHERE I CAN
TUNE IN AMERICAN FORCES TELEVISION and watch most of the 
NFL and NCAA action LIVE  !

Sadly, they are closing down
the transmitter in 1994, when the US forces leave Berlin.

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