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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Shibu Inu Query
From: shirley@cbnewse.cb.att.com (shirley.d.dunn)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 13:34:07 GMT
Distribution: bl
Organization: AT&T


Hi all,

I was at a pet shop buying some cat litter and looked at the caged dogs.  Don't
worry I would NEVER buy one, just checking out the their condition.  ANYWAY,
they had a dog called a Shibu Inu.  I was wondering if anyone has heard of this
breed.  My husband and I have looked at books and can't find any references.

The window said that it was from Japan, 20 - 30 pounds full grown, and should
look like a "small" Akita.   This one happened to be tan colored.  Since we 
are interested in getting an Akita LATER, we started asking questions about the
breed.  My husband asked them about AKC and all they kept talking about was
"I think the AKITA is AKC recognized."  No kidding.  What a bunch of idoits.

Well, if you have any information about the breed, let me know.

Thanks,
Shirley Dunn

-----------------------------------------------------------
Shirley Dunn     AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville IL
shirley@ihlpe.att.com (708)979-2777
-- 
Shirley Dunn     AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville IL
shirley@ihlpe.att.com (708)979-2777
From: schalene@sequent.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Ankle-biting puppy question
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:49:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Apr10.164902.15414
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

>In article <15204@drutx.ATT.COM> mlhb@mammoth.dr.att.com (54626-BonhamM(DR2020)214) writes:
> Mouthing is normal behavior, but should not be tolerated.  (See my previous
> post).  Yes, you should punish and try to stop him.
>
I'd have to say "correct" would be a better word than "punish."  Our
dog, was 3 months old yesterday.  And like a baby, everything goes
into his mouth, including fingers, toes, ankles, bathrobe hems, etc.

What we've done and it seems to work is gently hold his mouth closed
and say "no Max."  He isn't crazy about this and will back up and try
to get loose.  AS SOON AS HE DOES, we give him one of his acceptable
chew toys.  If he takes it and begins chewing, we HEAP the praise on
him.  (Max is more motivated by praise than treats so this works
great).  If he doesn't take the chew toy but stops mouthing, we pet
him and say good dog, but don't get as excited.  Only rarely will he
attempt to bite again right away.  When he does, we repeat the
process.
From: rlt@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (R.L.Taylor KB2OOA)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Dog murdered using train (longish) (disgusting)
Date: 10 Apr 92 12:46:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsl.1992Apr10.124632.4824
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <10APR199207535310@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> scgeoff@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (GEOFF ELLIOTT) writes:
>In article <485@alden.UUCP>, sgr@alden.UUCP writes...

>><"Three guys had gone out, got some beer, then deliberately put this dog
>><on the tracks so it would be hit by a train," Kearney said.  "They did this
>><right in front of the little girls.  These guys thought this was
>><entertainment.  They thought it was funny.  In fact, when we arrested them,
>><they were still laughing."

>I'm not a religious person by any means, but I sincerely believe that 
>whatever force created humans made a serious mistake.

Well, I am what most would call a religious person.  May God forgive
my lack of charity, but I hope there's a special pit in hell for people
like these.

>It makes me ashamed to be human.

Don't be.  I would hardly classify these people as human.  Surely, they
are less than that.

Roberta
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: INRS@ricevm1.rice.edu (April O. Henry)
Subject: Heartworms
Organization: Rice University, Houston, TX
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 15:53:41 GMT

I have a dog that has contracted heartworms.  He is 2-1/2 years old.
The vet thinks that he can undergo an arsenic based treatment program
successfully.  If anyone out there has any experience, suggestions or
general information please share it with me.

The cost of the treatment is about $250.  Is that about right?
Long-term effects when caught early?
Other possible methods of treatment?

Any assistance you can give is greatly appreciated.  Please keep the
flames to yourself.  I assure you I've reaped more than a few upon
myself.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: please???
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:06:14 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

In article <1992Apr12.220007.3557@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, eam9e@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Ann Myers) writes...

>  My dog Shiloh is getting more terrified by thunderstorms as he gets
>older.

That's funny because the dog that I had when I was a kid was afraid of 
thunder when she was young.  When she got older she just stopped.

UW-Madison Academic Computing Center         Phone:  608-262-9887
Organization: University of Minnesota - Computer & Information Services
Date: Tuesday, 7 Apr 1992 12:10:17 CST
From: <IDIC@UMINN1.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Seizure (Epilepsy ?)

I hope your dog is doing better .... I just now saw your note.

From my experience, it sounds possibly like poisoning/allergic
reaction.  I'm sure you've received some good info from others
and the vet....but whatever the case, follow through on any tests
the vet recommends.

I've been told epilepsy usually will show from 2 to 4 years of age,
although it also becomes a problem in older dogs.... I said 'usually'.

I believe most cases can be controlled (if it is epilepsy).

My case was an exceptional nightmare.  We tried for 21 months without
success in controlling seizures that were occuring at random.  The
seizures were of the gran mall type.... it's a long story.  My point
is to watch for signs and check into it.  Good luck.  E-mail me if you
think I can help.... I know what you might be going through .... no

direct answers from anyone ......................

Dick.
From: schalene@sequent.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Field Spaniel
Keywords: Field Spaniel
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:00:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Apr14.150043.10488
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Apr13.201559.20543@linus.mitre.org> rbeltz@zodanga.mitre.org (Randy Beltz) writes:
>
> I would like to find out if anyone out there in Usenet land owns a
>Field Spaniel.  It is a rare breed (about 30 litters/year) and is just
>making a come back in this country.
>
>I have one (name: Wicksford Colby-No!, age:14 months) and have been very
>impressed with his performance in the field (I hunt!!).
>
>I would like to hear from any other Field Spaniels, or from those who wishmore information on this breed. 

We seriously considered getting a Field Spaniel, but in the end
decided against it.  We saw a litter in Southwestern Virginia.  They
were very cute puppies.  The brochure we got from the Field Spaniel
Society (can't remember the exact name) had a description of the dog's
character that made my husband and I howl.  I'll have to bring it in
and share a portion with the net.  

schalene
From: kudzu@tfs.com (Michael Sierchio)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Heeling advice requested
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:12:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: tfs.1992Apr16.201254.17501
Organization: TRW Financial Systems

In article <45782@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
	saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Marla Belzowski (K-9's)) writes:
>>
>>Recently the rather disorganized instructor has suggested that we
>>might need to try Barney on one of those corrective collars - a
>>step up from a choker.  I'm reluctant to do this until all other
>>methods fail.
>
>Another way is to "pop" him with the lead.  I usually
>pull up and back when dogs are just  totally ignoring the heel.
>This way they get a little slack at first and learn that they
>can walk with a loose lead, but when they start pulling, they
>get jerked.  I say "no" as I lift and "heel" again as the lead is slack.
>As they allow the lead to stay slack, I say "good dog".

NOT on a six-month old pup! -- studies show that dead-chain and
choke-chain corrections on young dogs (< 12-18 mos.) cause skeletal
damage.  Six months is too young to demand much in the way of
compliance, anyway, and isn't very good for morale -- it's the time to
keep things on a positive note.

While they may look evil, "pinch" collars are more humane for a number
of reasons than choke collars -- they may also be used on a younger dog
without the risk of injury that a choker causes.

Basically, to answer your original question - Yes, you are expecting too
much of a six month old dog.
-- 
Michael Sierchio                               TRW Financial Systems
kudzu@tfs.com                                     1947 Center Street
                                             Berkeley, CA 94704-1105
(MKS2)                                                  510.704.3380
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: dean@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (Jack Dean)
Subject: New member of the family!
Organization: McDonnell Douglas Space Systems Company
Date: 6 Apr 92 10:55:11

Well, it's official.  My family and I have decided to go ahead and
adopt the retired racing greyhound that we have been fostering for the
last few weeks.  His registered racing name is Swamp Boy (ugh), but
his kennel name was Jack.  Since that is also my name, we decided to
rename him Kojak.

Kojak is a really affectionate fawn male.  He will be three in June.
In addition to clamoring for lots of petting, Kojak likes to collect
"treasures" and bring them back to his bed.  Shoes and socks are real
popular, and so is sections of the newspaper and magazines. 

So far Kojak and Patti, my original adopted greyhound, have gotten
along great.  Up until recently Kojak hasn't shown a lot of interest
in playing with Patti, prefering to just get love and attention
instead.  Lately that has been changing though, and he has begun
playing with Patti.

If anyone would like to find out more about adopting a retired racing
greyhound, you can call their national referral number for Greyhound
Pets of America at 1-800-366-1472.  A member of the nearest GPA
chapter will get in touch with you.  Or feel free to e-mail me with
any questions you may have.  I can also send you a copy of the flyer
that our local GPA chapter hands out that I have transcribed to a
file.


--
Jack Dean                         dean@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov


Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: bradav@auto-trol.com (Brad Davidson)
Subject: Outdoor Dogs vs Indoor Dogs
Originator: bradav@bradav
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:53:29 GMT

I see some people stating that Outdoor dogs are worse off than Indoor dogs
and that they will not bond to the pack, etc... Not True!

If the dog is a pet then an indoor dog is probably best, but if the
dog is intended to be a working dog first and pet second then place
the dog where it will best serve your purpose.

I have to point out here that by having an indoor dog you may ruin the
usefulness of the dog as a working dog.  A husky without a winter coat
is not any good in the middle of winter outdoors.

I have weight pullers and they must be able to stand out in the cold
for hours and indoor dogs just don't have that ability.  Some dogs have
to be wrapped in blankets to keep warm between pulls and it does hinder
their ability to perform when they do not handle the weather well.

Now before the flamers jump all over me for my position I spend as much
time as I can with my dogs. They get as much attention as they want and
that is still more than most dogs around town.

Just because I have outdoor dogs does not mean that they feel any less
part of the "pack" then an indoor dog.  You do not get the performance you
need in weight pulling unless you build that friendship and trust.

So lets just keep in mind that some outdoor dogs are not just put in the
back yard to be forgetten. 

Brad Davidson
"My dogs enjoy a good workout"
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: jag@iti.org (Jacqueline A. Giles)
Subject: Re: pregnancy check - Dog kills another-is Sheba safe?
Organization: Industrial Technology Institute
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:23:26 GMT

 I think a blood test can be done by ICG (?) something canine
genetics, 1(800)248-8099

Jackie
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: sss@netcom.com (Small Systems Solutions)
Subject: Re: ? Dutch Shepherd ?
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 15:34:42 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <45439@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> 
	 saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Marla Belzowski (K-9's)) writes:
>
>This is the second time I've seen you give information on a breed that
>you obiously have no clue about.  I and others would appreciate that
>you study these breeds before you give out faulty information.

I've worked these "Dutch Shepherds" in bomb detection and narcotics
detection, and they aren't Hollandse Herderhonden.  They are mostly
Malinois -- and the Malinois bred for Ring Sport and Police work are
nasty, to the extent that you can get them to bite a cardboard cutout
of a human figure :-)

The poster said that the handler called it a "Dutch Shepherd" -- you
read something into that that may not be accurate.  I stand by my
assertion that it is probably a Mal/GSD cross.

-- 
Small Systems Solutions                   1563 Solano Avenue, Suite 123
sss@netcom.com                                  Berkeley, CA 94707-2116

The above-expressed opinions aren't necessarily
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: bradley@mdd.comm.mot.com (Michael Bradley)
Subject: kuvasz owners - request for correspondence
Keywords: big white dog
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:19:50 GMT

I am close to putting down a deposit for a kuvasz
puppy. I would like to correspond with other
owners to discuss both the puppy selection 
process and early training (important if you
want a socially responsible kuvasz).

 Thanks
   Michael Bradley
   bradley@mdd.comm.mot.com
From: kudzu@tfs.com (Michael Sierchio)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: A tragic accident
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:03:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: tfs.1992Apr9.180323.7372
Organization: TRW Financial Systems

In article <15175@drutx.ATT.COM> 
	mlhb@mammoth.dr.att.com (54626-BonhamM(DR2020)214) writes:
>|> 
>|> 	1.  most of the dogs that bite humans are chows or chow mixes
>|> 	    (and *not*, as one might be led to believe, pit bulls or 
>|> 	    dobermans)
>|>
>
>I believe this is incorrect.  German Sheperds are number one on the list of
>dogs that bite people.  

No way.  Cocker Spaniels top the list in barking and biting!

Injury bitings are most frequently a "medium-sized brown dog" -- which
inevitably gets classified as a "pit bull" whether it is or not.
-- 
Michael Sierchio                               TRW Financial Systems
kudzu@tfs.com                                     1947 Center Street
                                             Berkeley, CA 94704-1105
(MKS2)                                                  510.704.3380
From: casey@netcom.com (Kathleen Creighton)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: New Akita puppy
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:42:20 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


My dog was fed Iams puppy food for about the first six months, I think.
We got a whole instruction sheet from the breeder.  Annie now eats Iams
mini-chunks (and gets one meal a day).

Isn't dysplasia inherited?  Screwing around with the dog's natural growth
rate isn't going to do anything except maybe exacerbate an existing problem.
In Annie's case, I had to put her on a brief diet when she was about 6 mos.
old just to keep the extra weight off her hips, but that was it (and 
because she was a growing puppy at "pudge" stage, I wasn't happy about doing
it but I did it anyhow).

I definitely agree with Terry Hull about dog food being a religion.  In
any event, do what the breeder tells you--and the adult dog food shouldn't
be down when your dog eats.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: jgraham@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (the End)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: growling (maybe more) at kids
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:50:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: bronze.1992Apr10.195001.22869
Organization: Indiana University

Howdy,

My crossbreed Austrailian shepard border collie is about 8 months old
and has a problem with "small" people. Whenever he is near one, he 
barks and growls rather seriously. We always restrain him for fear
that he will attack.

We just got him a month ago from a semi-reputable home, so I don't
know if he has ever had contact with children. He didn't seem to have
had much contact with people in general or other dogs. He is very calm
and well behaved generally, and only sometimes barks at stangers when
outside (at a distance).

How can we teach him that kids aren't so bad ?

E-mail me
Jim
jgraham@sunflower.bio.indiana.edu
From: pastor@prc.unisys.com (Jon Pastor)
Subject: Yellow Lawn Spots
Organization: not much...
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:15:47 GMT

A few weeks back, someone posted a note saying he'd heard of or seen some
product that repairs pee-spots.  I was browsing through my R.C. Steele catalog
and I happened upon one such product; I haven't even ordered it yet, much less
tried it, but the pertinent facts are:

	Lawn Repair for Yellow Dog Spots
	#Z15-0328..$6.40 ea.; Case of 12..$67.20

In Midwinter 1992 catalog, p. 26.
From: sss@netcom.com (Small Systems Solutions)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Queen Elizabeth
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:27:18 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Apr8.164359.11038@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> 
	 esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse) writes:
>
>In a previous article, saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Marla Belzowski K-9's)) says:
>
>>
>>Queen Elizabeth was well known for her love of the canine species...
>
>I think you may be confusing two queens.  The present Queen is Elizabeth
>and her great interest in dogs seems to be only Pembroke Welsh Corgis (the
>tailless variety).  She is trying to form a new breed by crossing a
>Pembroke with a dachshund.  Her sister Margaret prefers them.

Cardigans, not Pembrokes!

-- 
Small Systems Solutions                   1563 Solano Avenue, Suite 123
sss@netcom.com                                  Berkeley, CA 94707-2116

The above-expressed opinions aren't necessarily
From: scm@harvee.UUCP (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Subject: Re: Queen Elizabeth
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:25:34 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: gators 'r us
X-Version: Rodney's UUCP modules 02/11/90 V1.18

In article <43812@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
(Marla Belzowski (K-9's)) writes:

> Queen Elizabeth was well known for her love of the canine species in
> general.  Does anyone have an idea of exaclty how many breeds she influenced?
> The one's I know of are..
> 
> Borzoi
> Collie
> Pekingese
> Welsh Corgies (both Pem and Cards)
pomeranians too, if it's victoria you meant.
--
-- little gator aka S. Mudgett     email: scm@harvee.uucp
-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine
From: schalene@sequent.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Obedience Training Question
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:57:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Apr6.165713.18378
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

I've got a question about puppy obedience classes.  What is the ideal
age to enroll your puppy and yourself in a class?  I'm afraid I may
have made a mistake and would like to correct it before its too late.

Max (who is now sleeping through most nights -- thank you) will be 3
months old on 4/8.  Today will be the third week of puppy training.
The first week the dogs stayed home and the people went through
orientation.  Also, the trainer split the class into 2 manageable
groups.  My group is for puppies under 6 months old; the other, for
puppies between 6 months and one year.  The second week, Max was kept
away from the other dogs, but we did some of the "excercises" that
didn't require interaction with other dogs.  This was because Max
didn't get his third set of shoots until Saturday.  

Max didn't care for puppy training and was very afraid of the other
puppies.  Max is a Havanese (Bichon-like) and weighs 6 pounds.  The 
other dogs in the class are: 2 Labs, 1 Lab/Pointer mix, 1 Golden, 
1 Rottie, 1 Old English Sheep Dog, and 1 Akita.  These are big dogs!  
Should Max be attending this class?  Is he too young?  Am I possibly 
ruining him as far as being afraid of other dogs in the future?  
Should we continue?

I originally signed us up for puppy training because I haven't ever
raised a puppy before (mom did it when I was little, and my husband's
dog was 6 when we were married).  I didn't want to make too many
mistakes out of ignorance; so I read a lot of books.  The only thing I
really found about when training should begin was in Monks of New
Skete.  They said many people have a false belief that formal training
shouldn't start until the dog is over 6 months old.  

The class we're in isn't intended to be a formal training.  They are
primarily interested in socialization, learning come, sit, down, etc.
The trainer even said heel shouldn't be expected because its a complex
command made up of several elements and it takes awhile for the pups
to get the hang of it.  That's why I didn't think Max was too young.
But now I'm wondering if I'm wrong.

Any thoughts......

schalene
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: eam9e@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Ann Myers)
Subject: Re: please???
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 22:00:07 GMT

In article <21020138@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, kae@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Karen Erickson) writes:
> This is discourgaging, folks...I haven't seen any ideas for helping me out
> with Tucker's fear of thunderstorms. 
> Have I finally come upon the one problem that doesn't have a fix?? Oh please
> say it ain't so! We have a storm forecast for late this afternoon and/or
> tonight (you know how weather forecasting goes) and I'd love to have some kind
> of idea on how to get him over this panic he kicks into. 
> We used to have a real good dog psychologist in this area, Suzanne Arguello,
> but I don't know where she is anymore. 
> 
> Still hoping somebody can help us out here...
> -k

  My dog Shiloh is getting more terrified by thunderstorms as he gets
older.  Someone on the net suggested playing music during a thunderstorm
so the dog doesn't hear the thunder.  This worked for Shiloh.  We had
a thunderstorm this afternoon. When Shiloh starting pacing and panting,
I turned on the stereo loud enough to make the floor vibrate.  The cats
weren't exactly thrilled, but Shiloh quieted down and went to sleep.

-Ann
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs,rec.pets.cats
From: Barbara Hardy <bhhardy@copper.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Garlic and Brewer's Yeast
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 12:38:08 GMT


Does anyone know the proportions of one to the other
for use as a flea repellant? Also, what about dosage 
per pound of body weight? I have several dogs and one cat
that I'd like to go ahead and get on the "pill" so
to speak.

Barbara

ps -- reply via mail, and I'll post a summary, promise!