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From: schmidt@auvax1.adelphi.edu
Subject: Re: Question about record cleaning.
Organization: Adelphi University, Garden City NY
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 05:43:01 GMT

\In article <1992Nov15.051849.27622@cs.mcgill.ca>, narpet@cs.mcgill.ca (Greg WARD) writes:
> I have a question that has probably plagued mankind for decades, and (I
> fear) will become increasingly hard to answer: what's the best way to
> clean my vinyl LP's?  I've got a nice little anti-static brush that's
> good for getting everyday dust off, but for those worse-off albums,
> I don't have much.  I was in an audio store today that sells a kit
> (by Discwasher, I think) for a ludicrous-seeming amount ($25 or so,
> and considering that I also had to blow $35 on a needle for my 
> turntable, I wasn't too keen on that).  One of the salespeople said 
> distilled water would be enough -- just something that won't leave
> deposits in the grooves!  I asked him why, then, do/did most products
> sold as record (or CD) cleaning fluids consist of isopropyl alcohol and
> freon.  Is it just for convenience, since they evaporate faster than
> water?  Or is there some good reason for cleaning records with alcohol?
> 
> Much thanks!
> 
> 	Greg Ward (narpet@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca)
-
My experience over some years is that plain tap water, with a small amount of
hand soap works wonders, scrub gently with a soft rag or such, but NOT the
label, unless you like to have to guess what is on the album, and then rinse
well.  Don't put too much soap on the record, you don't want to have it slip
out of your hands into the sink :-[ .  Water also has the advantage of reducing
the static charge on the disc in the winter. 
- 
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From: m1mlr00@fed.frb.gov (Mark L Rodini)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re:the rest of us: Blind leading blind?
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:55:18 GMT
Reply-To: m1mlr00@fed.frb.gov (Mark L Rodini)
Organization: Federal Reserve Board, Wash, DC

>>How about making a new group called something like
>>rec.audio.college.student or rec.audio.penniless.  Almost every
>>conversation that occurs here is pointed to those who have $10k to spend
>>on audio equipment.  It would be nice to know that maybe somewhere out
>>there are other people with as little money as I.  <sigh>

 Being fairly poor myself, I understand where your coming from, BUT,
perhaps the reason I'm poor is that I've spent my money on interests
other than hi-fi equipment, which implies that I have not devoted
myself to becoming a stereophile expert. So, when I read this
newsgroup, I hope to learn from those that know what they're
talking about; usually, those who invest mass $$ on superior
equipment. I would guess that the experts without $$ to spend would
want to read it out of interest, if not for buying advice.

 Thus, the problem with a separate newsgroup for the "poor" is that
it is unlikely to attract the very people for which most people read
this newsgroup: those people knowledgeable enough to give sound advice
(no pun intended).

 I think that if everyone made a point of specifying their price range,
quality they seek, and perhaps whether or not they are "novices" when
it comes to stereo equipment, those in the "know" would be happy to
provide suggestions at the level the advice seeker could understand.
(I recall not long ago someone posted a request for advice without
giving any range indication. When given high-end suggestions, this
individual posted the rudest and most unwarranted flame I've read here.
But it was his own fault.)

 By the way, thanks John F., Sean V., and Thorn R. for your advice on
mid-level tape decks; I sort of expected I could get as much for less.

-Mark
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: ses@sunSITE.unc.edu (Simon Spero)
Subject: Re: DCC -- JUST SAY NO!  (was: The end of cassettes,
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:25:30 GMT

In article <kmr4.278.722209080@po.CWRU.edu> kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan) writes:
>
>	Okay, virtually no home units will/have be/en sold which can not 
>record. The main reason for walkman's not being able to record, nor auto-
>mobiles; is that the enviroment is not well suited for recording. Not many 
>people would want to record songs off the radio or a cd while driving 60 mph 
>down the highway, nor carrying two units while jogging or riding a bicyle. 


Counterexample: On the flight over from the UK, I had my Discman wired in to
my DAT recorder (unfortunately the discman had no digital output; otherwise
things would be perfect.) 

:-)

Simon
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From: philipn@bmdhh202.bnr.ca (Philip Nortey)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Why filter D/A output?
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:13:35 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK

You have a good point regarding filtering ... The best that I can come up with in
terms of explaning why filtering is needed is that the distortion products at
higher frequencies have images that 'fold' back into the audio band. Therefore
filtering is required to suppress noise in the audio band.

Mind you .. what I have just said may be a load of rubbish !
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: David Brady <Brady_David@Tandem.Com>
Subject: Re: Ok, how's this:  5-disc cd player - $200-$300?
X-Xxdate: Mon, 16 Nov 92 18:57:57 GMT
Organization: Tandem, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:57:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.184518.25064@dunix.drake.edu> Devil Bunny!,
kjt001@dunix.drake.edu writes:
>If possible, I would like to get a technics cd-player, because then my
>remote would work with it as well, but I don't know what quality their
>cd players are.  Any suggestions?
>
>My price range is $200-$300, but I could go up to $500 even if it's a
>good enough player.

I bought the bottom-of-the-line 5-disc Technics player - the one with the
'hinged' cover - a little over a year ago.  I've had NO problems with it and it
only cost about $150 dollars.  The drawer style ones are functionally the same
- except, of course, for the the drawer.  Mucho bang for your buck.  (BTW, I
really like the hinged cover approach - be damned the dust and all - it's fun
to quickly slap 5 cds in at a time...)

Previous to that I had another nearly bottom-of-the-line single-disc Technics
player (SP-P220) since 1987.  I've also had NO problems with it - as a matter
of fact I'm using it in my office, listening to the Kronos Quartet, as we
'speak'.

(My mom has an older Technics player - no problems yet.  A friend of mine has
the same 5-disc player - no problems either.  No promises though!)
--
email: Brady_David@Tandem.Com
(Note: This message is from me, not my employer.  React accordingly.)

Always remember -  David Brady IS Lee Harvey!
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: drkhoe@nmt.edu (ONID)
Subject: Survey for Research
Organization: New Mexico Tech
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 02:56:52 GMT

                              QUESTIONNAIRE
                         TO EXAMINE CAFFEINE USE
                        AMONG COMPUTER SCIENTISTS
                         AND ELECTRICAL ENGINEERS
                                     
Most of us enjoy consuming caffeine in one form or another. The purpose of
this questionnaire is to examine how much caffeine is being consumed, what
form the caffeine is being consumed in, and who is consuming it.

Please answer these questions with email to: bob@jupiter.nmt.edu
with the subject 'survey'.

**Please do not post your answers, that will waste bandwidth**

You don't have to quote the whole article, just use 6 lines or so:
EXAMPLE
	1 CS
	2 85 cans
	3 Jolt
	4 5 pots
	5 none (gives me a headache)
	6 45 Vivarin/hr.

Thank you!

1. What is your field of work/study?
    EE       CS        BothNeither

2. How much soda do you consume per day (average)?
    ________

3. What kind of soda do you drink?
    ________

4. How much coffee do you consume per day (average)?
    ________

5. How much tea?
    ________

6. Do you take any caffeinated pills? If so, how many?
    Vivarin  NoDoze    Maximum Strength Excedrin
    ______   ______    ______

bob@jupiter.nmt.edu
Bob "Chunkstyle" Broilo
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From: grego@bit.UUCP (Greg Sanguinetti)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Digital Amps -> next???
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:38:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: bit.494
Reply-To: grego@bit.UUCP (Grego Sanguinetti)
Organization: BIT  Portland, OR

In article <1992Nov21.211211.15034@bilver.uucp> bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) writes:
>I read a reviews in a British audio magazine about a year ago of a Sony
>power amp that accepted digital input.
>
>Advantage is to keep everything digital until the last DA and not have
>problems with analog interconnects.

I would much rather deal with the problem of analog interconnects by using
a balanced line system rather than deal with the very real problems of
housing a DAC subsystem inside the chassis of a power amplifier! Gag, talk
about a mutually hostile environment, yuk.
That is of course assuming that the actual power amplifier is essentially
a standard analog design and not some class D switcher.

-grego
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From: msiegall@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (MARC SIEGALL)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Soft music speakers
Date: 21 Nov 92 07:40:44 GMT
Reply-To: msiegall@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: oavax.csuchico.edu

I like to listen to music at soft-moderate levels, even if it's
rock or classical.  I generally listen to soft rock, new age, some
jazz (dinner jazz) and some classical.

Any suggestions on speakers that cost $800/pair or less?  It seems that
many don't sound their best at low volumes.  I'm currently auditioning
Klipsch Forte IIs, Klipsch 5.2s, Infinity 122s, and Paradigm 
somethingorothers.  I currently have Polk 10s.

Thanks!
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Marc Siegall                     MSIEGALL@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
Department of Management
California State University      (916) 898-5421
Chico, CA 95929-0031
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Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: rcharbon@athena.mit.edu (Ray Charbonneau)
Subject: Dolby C
Followup-To: rcharbon@athena.mit.edu
Keywords: Dolby 
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 12:39:57 GMT


How does recording a cassette with Dolby C affect playback if the tape is played
with Dolby B?  Or no Dolby?  (note: I understand how Dolby B works).

Please respond by e-mail as I am not a regular reader of this group.

Thanks...

-- 
Ray Charbonneau              | The fifth dentist makes all the money.
rcharbon@athena.mit.edu      |             -- me
MIT and the Library Systems Office are glad that I'm posting my opinions
here so that they don't have to listen to them anymore.
From: kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: ELITIST SNOBS
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:37:38 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b64746.student.cwru.edu

In article <1992Nov17.145352.10522@cypress.com> ssr@cypress.com (Bapcha/FPGA) writes:
>>You were robbed.  I can put together a system to your specs for
>>$19.25.
>
>
>Naw - more like "As seen on TV for $199.95;  THousands sold at $69.95;
>but now for a limited time only.... $19.25"....

	No, wait 6 months. Then, on an offer for the Mr. Veggie Dicer, they'
ll throw in the "SUPER BOOMER II" stereo for free. If you choose to return 
the Mr. Veggie Dicer, you may keep the stereo at no charge....

Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: fineberg@win31.nas.nasa.gov (Samuel A. Fineberg)
Subject: Re: DCC -- JUST SAY NO!  (was: The end of cassettes,
Organization: CSC, NASA Ames Research Center, NAS Division
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 23:12:46 GMT
Reply-To: fineberg@nas.nasa.gov

In article <27617@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch) writes:
|> In rec.audio, jj@alice.att.com (jj, curmudgeon and all-around grouch) writes:
|> >Must I again point out that a second-generation DCC (analog interface
|> >between decks) is going to sound pretty bad? (Well,
|> >"bad" is relative, perhaps I'm picky.)
|> 
|> Yes you must.  But you don't explaing why you think this.  I don't expect
|> multiple generation (analog or digital) copies on DCC or MD to be bad.  Why
|> do you?
|> 
|> Are you thinking that the first generation will compress the data by
|> throwing away 80%, so therefore the second generation must throw away
|> another 80% of the 20% left, leaving only 4% of the original music?
|> 
|> If this is your thinking, then here's mine.  The first compression
|> will remove 80% of the information, but the second time through the
|> system, almost nothing will be removed, because it was all removed
|> in the first pass.
|> 
|> I don't expect multiple analog DCC or MD copies to hold up as well as
|> DAT, but I expect it to be better than any cassette format.
|> 
|> Have you heard (:-)) otherwise?
|> 
|> If you have some evidence that multiple generation copies will be
|> bad, please let us know about it.  If you don't, please stop passing your
|> theories along as if they were facts.
|> 
|> Curt
I think he's partly right.  The fact is that the loss from compression is only 
where the information content of the signal is greater than the tapes capacity. 
After the signal has been reduced to a signal that can be stored on the tape 
(i.e., after the first time it is compressed), all further generations should
be exactly the same.  
            _______________			   _____________

Signal  --> | compression | --> signal on tape --> | expansion | --> tape output
            _______________                        _____________

In theory, any signal that can be expanded from one on a DCC (or MD) tape should
be compressible to exactly the same signal from which it was created unless if
some part of the expansion process is generating new information that wasn't
part of the original signal.  Therefore, all generations of a DCC or MD tape
should sound identical.  Its too bad the first generation copy will 
sound so bad.

Sam
From: ianchan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ian Hin Yun Chan)
Subject: For Sale
Summary: Arcam Delta60 amp for sale
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 00:57:25 GMT

My Delta60 is a 3-yr old British integrated amp that puts out 55Wpc into
8ohms, and has a max current delivery of 10A. It's frequency response is
30-35,000Hz +/- 0.5dB, and is built with quality components (eg. torroidal
transformer, polypropylene caps). A lot of care has gone into the making of
the amp - in fact, the signatures of the people who assembled and tested
the unit can be found on the circuit board.
If you're looking for a reliable and well-built product with great sound
(eg. bass authority, smooth treble, sparkling midrange), the Delta60 has got
it all. And for my asking price of $400, I doubt you'll be able to find
any other amp that matches it's value for money (it was 400 pounds new).

I can be reached at ianchan@leland.stanford.edu or at (415)-497-7949 if you
want more information.
- Ian
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: henrylin@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Henry Hung-i Lin)
Subject: Need opinions/info on Quad405 amplifier
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:30:30 GMT


Does anyone out there own (or has owned or knows about) a Quad405 amp? It was
last made around 1984 or so and is rated at 100wpc. A used shop I occasionally
buy from has it listed at $460 used. Any thoughts? I'm currently using a Sumo
Ulysses. They'll probably be used to drive either Maggie SMGs, Vandersteen 1Bs,
Snell Type K/IIs, or Signet SL260s. Any advice on speakers in the $600
price range that are particularly suited to the Quad? Please mail replies to me at:
henrylin@phoenix.princeton.edu. Thanks...

					henri
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Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: donr@hpcvcdo.cv.hp.com (Don Reid)
Subject: Re: DAT and SCMS, some info
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:47:43 GMT

: I understand that.  My question is whether a record company is legally
: prohibited from using the 10 code, forbidding ANY copying.

I doubt it, but it would seem fair to demand that they also forgo their
share of the DAT recorder/tape royalty.


	Don Reid		HP - ICBD - Product Design
	750-2726 (telnet)	1050 NE Circle Blvd.
	donr@cv.hp.com          Corvallis, OR 97330
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Why filter D/A output?
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 13:20:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.080807.1@fencer.cis.dsto.gov.au> st_waldman@fencer.cis.dsto.gov.au writes:
>> You have a good point regarding filtering ... The best that I can come up with in
>> terms of explaning why filtering is needed is that the distortion products at
>> higher frequencies have images that 'fold' back into the audio band. Therefore
>> filtering is required to suppress noise in the audio band.
>
>When an output signal is generated by a DAC, it looks more like a
>stair-case type of signal. eg. for a sine wave we might get:
>
>            --        --        --
>           -  -      -  -      -  -
>          -    -    -    -    -    -
>         -      -  -      -  -      -
>        -        --        --        -
>



Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

It looks like the sine wave that went in!
-- 
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From: eric@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Eric Hansen)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: NEWS FROM CONCERNED AUDIOPLEBE (was Re: ELITIST SNOBS)
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:18:40 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Nov15.104325.22786@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n8846069@henson.cc.wwu.edu (BarryB) writes:

>OK, DUDEZ, LET ME FIRST STATE THAT I AM IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH
>THE DUDEZ THAT WHO ARE FEED UP WITH THE HIGH-END ELITIST SNOBS
>WHO SIGNON TO THIS BBOARD.  THESE IDIOTS THINK YOU NEED TO
>SPEND A ZILLION DOLLARS ON A SYSTEM TO GET GOOD SOUND.  WELL
>THE JOKES ON THEM!  AND DON'T TELL ME I HAVEN'T HEARD A GOOD
>HIGH-END SYSTEM!  MY FRIEND HAS A $1000 SONY RACK SYSTEM.
>IT HAS BIG MOTHER SPEAKERS WITH 15 INCH WOOFERS THAT REALLY
>VIBRATE THE WHOLE ROOM!  AND TO TOP IT ALL OFF, THESE BABIES
>ARE RATED FOR 500 WATTS!!!  OK, SO DON'T GIVE ME THIS SHIT
>ABOUT NOT KNOWING WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

>TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, MY $200 SOUNDESIGN SYSTEM SOUNDS
>JUST AS GOOD.  THE BASS SOUNDS JUST AS BIG!  THE SECRET
>IS TO ADJUST THE BASS CONTROL TO MAX.  TRY IT ON SOME
>OF THESE CHEAPER SYSTEMS.  IT REALLY CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE!!!!
>ADJUST THE SYSTEM BEFORE YOU JUDGE!  GEEESH HOW HARD
>CAN IT BE???

>LATER DUDEZ.....


WELL ALRIGHT, DUDE!!  I'LL TELL YOU MY SECRET TO KILLER SOUND -- FORGET
THIS RACK STEREO CRAP, I GET REAL AUDIOPHILE SOUND FROM A COUPLE OF
MARSHALL 500W BASS GUITAR AMPS!!  AND DISTORTION?  WHO CARES?!  THE MORE THE
BETTER!  IN FACT, I RUN MY CD PLAYER THROUGH A DOSTORTION EFFECTS PEDAL
ANYWAYS,  SO 5% THD DOESN'T MEAN SQUAT!!!

HERE'S A SERIOUS QUESTION, THOUGH, DUDEZ... YOU KNOW THAT **HUGE** SPEAKER
THAT MICHAEL J. FOX USES TO PLAY HIS GUITAR THROUGH IN "BACK TO THE
FUTURE"???  DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE TO GET ONE OF THOSE?!  I WAS HOPING TO
HOOK UP MY EMERSON BOOM BOX TO IT AND CRANK IT UP AT THE BEACH!!  KILLER!!!

- EH
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From: 895cheong@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Wanted:Rockford amps
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:56:31 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

Hi,
   Is there anyone out there who wants to sell their Rockford
Fosgates amp?  (Punch 45, 70, or 150) any line.  Please
notify me.  You can either e-mail me or phone.

Cheong.
(616)344-6759
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car,alt.locksmithing,alt.tasteless
From: rboudrie@chpc.org (Rob Boudrie)
Subject: Re: Nabbing a car thief (was: car alarms)
Organization: Center For High Perf. Computing of WPI; Marlboro Ma
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:38:58 GMT

>What did they think of you holding a thief at gunpoint? Did they commend
>you, or were they a little pissed off (their recommendation is to never
>confront a thief if possible)

Here is Massachusetts, the DA would probably offer the car thief immunity
if (s)he agreed to testify in the assault trial against the car owner.
**THIS IS NOT AN EXAGERRATION**

>
>Is it actually legal to make a "citizen's arrest" of a car thief with 
>a gun?

Legal or not, it is a bad idea for several reasons :

- You increase the risk you will have to shoot
- If you shoot, the legal system will make a BIG deal out of the fact
  that you placed yourself in an situation which resulted in the 
  shooting, and that you could have avoid said situation at no risk of
  personal injury.
- Even if you don`t shoot (depending on the state) the car thief would
  have assault charges pressed against you for bargaining room (then
  you go out and pay a lawyer...)
- If you shoot, you will probably be sued.
- Police have general immunity against suits if they acted on reasonable
  suspicion.  In general, citizens have no such immunity (civilly or 
  criminally) and are in deep shit if the subject is not indeed guilty
  beyond a reasonable doubt.
>
>How did you hold the thief? Did you make him stay lying on the floor, with
>his hands behind his head?

The best position is face down, arms outstreatched, palms up, ankles
crossed, facing away from captor.  (this is NOT advice to try to hold
someone at gunpoint, just relaying a cop friend's instrucitons on how
to do it).

>
>If he had decided to make a run for it, you presumably wouldn't want to 
>shoot him in the back (manslaughter I would think). My guess is that most 
>thieves would just make a run for it, and not give up quietly.
>
>Anyway, good job! Nail those son-of-a-bitch bastards! 
>Cheers, mark dunster


Rob Boudrie
rboudrie@chpc.org


From: kirk@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kirk Lindstrom)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:00:00 GMT
Subject: Re: 1 Farad Capacitor availability
Organization: Shredding the water of SF Bay, HP-OCD