HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: houten@prso.pttnwb.nl (K. van Houten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Configuring QIC150 SCSI on hp9k705
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:47:18 GMT
Organization: PTT Telecom b.v. The Netherlands

thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) writes:
|> kinsell@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Dave Kinsell) writes:
|> |  The Archive Viper 60SI (QIC-24) and Archive Viper 150SI (QIC-150) tape
|> |  drives are NOT supported on this release.  For those users which still
|> 
|> Does this mean:
|> 
|> a) they used to be supported, and/or
|> b) they are just not supported in HP-UX 8.0x, and/or
|> c) they will be supported in a future release of HP-UX?
|> 
|> Note that the world has not widely adopted 4mm DAT and note that QIC-24
|> and QIC-150 are de facto standards for interchange (witness the support
|> of QIC-24 and QIC-150 by SunOS, Solaris, IRIX, AIX, AT&T, etc etc etc).
|> ....
|> I'm presently backing-up our HP 9000/7xx over the net onto a QIC-525 drive
|> located on a Sun (and this procedure works, as does a rrestore).  But I'd
|> like to know if such drives are intended to be supported by HP-UX.

If you are running 8.07 (NOT 8.05) you should be able to connect a SCSI-QIC
drive. I have used my SUN X660W (150Mb) drive on my 710, using the
following device files:

crw-rw-rw-   1 root     root      54 0x20144a Jul  1 13:53 /dev/rqic/0
crw-rw-rw-   1 root     root      54 0x20144b Jul  1 13:52 /dev/rqic/0n

Note: the driver 'scsitape' must be configured in your kernel.

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From: tomg@hpcvusc (Thomas J. Gilg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Spontaneous logout under VUE (question)
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:17:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvusn.1992Nov6.191728.25871
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
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> I have experienced a regular occurence of my 400 now running under HP-UX 8.0
> and VUE spontaneously giving me the boot in the middle of what I'm doing.

Fixed long ago by patches PHSS_0957 for s300 and PHSS_0958 for s700:

     92/03/05 - All - Resolved Saveunder problems in upper server
        that caused occasional server crashes.  Heavy system load
        often made the problem appear, especially under HP-VUE 2.01

Moving or iconifying windows with busy system made the problem easy to
reproduce.  Now days, you should get patches PHSS_1507 for s300 and
PHSS_1508 for s700.  Fixed in HP-UX 9.0

Thomas Gilg
tomg@cv.hp.com
Xref: sparky comp.sys.hp:12912 comp.sys.apollo:3963 comp.unix.misc:4158 comp.periphs.printers:3307
From: b_kondalski@vssi.trw.com (Brian J. Kondalski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.apollo,comp.unix.misc,comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Shinko printer formatter
Date: 13 Nov 1992 14:47:43 -0500
Organization: TRW Vehicle Safety Systems, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: trwvssi.vssi.trw.com

I have a Shinko CHC-345 color printer.  It's been connected to an Apollo DN
class station that is disappearing.  I wanted to know if someone had some 
software to convert X-bitmaps or color postscript files to a format that the
Shinko understands?  Thanks....
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: david@monymsys.mony.com (David Kozinn)
Subject: Re: Summary: My first root filesystem corruption.  :-(
Organization: Mutual of New York
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 14:43:31 GMT

In article <-192019993@hpopd.pwd.hp.com> richi@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Richard Jennings) writes:
>I'm not sure (note disclaimer at end), but I was always lead to believe
>that HP9000/8xx do this (because they have a battery back-up.  The
>original poster (Mark Bixby <markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu>) said this was on
>an 817, so I'm mystified.  Maybe I'm wrong, and certain 800s don't?

Battery backup is an option on 817s (and other 8x7 machines, I believe). If
you don't order the option (Option 0E1 for an 817), you don't get the
battery.
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From: lee@ceg.uiuc.edu (Chris Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Xset bug? (was Xtex problems)
Keywords: xset +fp causes erorrs
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:32:33 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


I think this is a bug...

On my Xterminal, when I issue a xset +fp path_name, I get the following error.

     % xset +fp /admin/tex/lib/xtex

     X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
       Major opcode of failed request:  51 (X_SetFontPath)
       Value in failed request:  0x0
       Serial number of failed request:  4
       Current serial number in output stream:  6

On the console, however, this error does not exist.  Apparently, 
this is the reason Xtex would not work properly.

The console is running HPUX8.07, and the Xterminal server tapes
are version B.03.01


Has anyone else had similar problems (and hopefully solutions)?

Thanks in advance
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: aaa@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Simon Fowler)
Subject: Re: Still problems with regcomp() and regexec()
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:28:30 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Atlanta GA

In article <BxICsC.I3F@fc.hp.com>, ec@fc.hp.com (Edgar_Circenis) writes:
>  (cpearce@nemesis.acs.unt.edu) wrote:
> 
> #include <regex.h>
> 
> regex_t r1, r2;
> 
> void init()
> {
>     regcomp (&r1, "^ *#keyword *$", REG_EXTENDED);
>     regcomp (&r2, "^ *#keyword +([^ ]+) *$", REG_EXTENDED);

Try:
      regcomp (&r2, "^ *#keyword( +([^ ]+)) *$", REG_EXTENDED);
                                ^         ^
Note the extra '()'

simon

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,gnu.gcc.help
From: cdm@idm.com (Charles D. Marcotte)
Subject: Re: Gcc-2.3.1.u2 Source and HPPA Binaries Available
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 23:09:18 GMT
Organization: Information Data Management

How can I obtain the source or binaries for the HP-UX version 
of gcc (gcc-2.3.1u2) if I have no access to the ftp site?  Our company
has access to the Internat through uunet (i.e. uucp).  I've heard
of a "gopher" program, should I use that?

I have the source for both gcc2.3.1 and libg++2.2.  I've built both
on our hp9k835 (HPUX 8.00 - PA 1.0).  Gcc built with no problems
(NO -O option) and I can compile several test .c programs.  When I try
to build libg++2.2 though (w/ patches from Bart Muijzer's shar) all
of the executables core dump.  Without the patch, I can't even build
the library.  Anyone else have problems like this?

Will future revisions/updates of gcc include support for the
PA-RISC-1.0 architecture?  We have an HP-710 here (PA-RISC-1.1), 
should I be building gcc on it (alas, low disk space...)?

	Any illumination would be greatly appreciated,

		Chuck (cdm@idm.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: ay@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Alec Yin)
Subject: USENET news reader needed for HP/UX...
Reply-To: ay@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Alec Yin)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:13:05 GMT

Hello,

	Recently I have been trying to setup a usenet news and internet mail
	service on my HP 9000/720 and I realized there is no rn or any
	other news reader available.  I have already tried hp support and 
	no help. (which makes me wonder what the software support contract
	is for?)   So before I fork off and spend days searching for the
	news reader, I would like to consult the guru here as to where I
	can find the source code of rn or any other news reader like tn,
	tin, trn....and better yet, any executable I can download so I can
	save the steps for compiling? :)  Any pointer/help/suggestion will
	be greatly appreciated.   For your info, It's hp 9000/720 running
	HP/UX 8.07 and VUE(from HP).  E-mail responses preferred since
	I have not been able to catch up with all the news in this newsgroup
	yet...I will summarize if there is any interest.  And finally,
	Thanks in advance.

								Alec 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.mail.sendmail
From: paul@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Paul Pomes - UofIllinois CSO)
Subject: Re: What sendmail do when quota exceeds ?
Reply-To: Paul-Pomes@uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:10:12 GMT

a866700@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk (Wong Siu To) writes:

>I'd like to know what sendmail will do if user's quota is exceeded.
>I've enabled quota on /usr/mail to limit the user mail box's size.  I
>wonder the mail will be requeued, bounced back, or stored as usual when
>the user's quota is exceeded.  If sendmail bypasses the quota checking,
>how can I queue up the mail (but not delivered to user) in the mail
>queue until the user files are cleared up ?

Sendmail's actions are determined by whatever exit status is returned
by the local deliver agent (usually /bin/mail).  To do what you want
you'll need to modify /bin/mail to check quotas before delivering the
message.  If /bin/mail exits with EX_TEMPFAIL (/usr/include/sysexits.h),
then the message will be re-queued.  Any other error will bounce the
message back to the sender.

At UIUC we don't have the time or interest to monitor quotas on student
accounts (8900 on uxa, 5400 on ux4).  Our experience has been that if a
student is over quota, it's usually because they belong to active mailing
lists and haven't been reading their mail.  Storing mail in /usr/spool/mqueue
for this kind of user waiting for them to clean up their act is a fast way
to fill up /usr/spool/mqueue.

/pbp
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: mandell@bach.helios.nd.edu (Dan Mandell)
Subject: HP 827 Openning screen hangs!
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:49:26 GMT

When logging in on a HP 827, HPUX 8.0, on a terminal line the opening 
screen contains nearly twenty lines of copyrights.  Then, there follows 
a welcome message, followed by the news of the day.  

Approximately one time in every 15, the screen will freeze on the opening
screen - always at the same position on the screen.  Is it necessary to display
all those copyrights?  I suspect that I could solve the problem by deleting 
several of the lines of copyright, because the screen hangs at precisely the
same position on the screen every time.  Once hung, it is often necessary to 
break the connection and attempt to login again. 

I have no idea why it hangs -( sorry if this is a FAQ).

Dan

Dan Mandell (dmandell@saintmarys.edu)
Saint Mary's College, Computer Services 
Notre Dame, Indiana 46556  -  Phone: (219) 284-4610

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: larsen@OES.ORST.EDU (Scott Larsen)
Subject: NFS mounts over gateway probs
Summary: cannot mount over gateway. if exports is wide open, its ok.
Organization: Oregon Extension Service, Oregon State University, Corvallis, Or.
Distribution: comp.sys.hp
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:04:54 GMT

I am trying to mount a NFS volume that resides on a network on the other
side of a gateway.  If I set up /etc/exports on the remote machine so that
_ANYONE_ can mount it (ie. a line containing just the file system name) then
my local machine can mount the volume:

	mazama /etc 151# mount savannah.wes.cascorp.com:/scsi5 /mnt
	mazama /etc 152#

If, however, if I enter the fully qualified domain name into /etc/exports, 
I get:

	mazama /etc 153# !151
	mount savannah.wes.cascorp.com:/scsi5 /mnt
	mount: access denied for savannah.wes.cascorp.com:/scsi5

Other things involving fully qualified domain names (like telnet and ftp)
seem to work ok, so I don't think it's a name server problem.

Is there something that needs to be adjusted in NFS to allow remote machines
mount access, without giving access to the world?

Thanks!


Scott Larsen
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: sasbge@unx.sas.com (Gantt Edmiston)
Subject: Re: hpterm's cut and paste
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:33:30 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.

raj@cup.hp.com (Rick Jones) writes:

>Perhaps this is not a good explanation, but I was feeling vocal ;-)

>I would guess that when the CAPS-lock key is "in place," the mouse
>buttons are now going trigger the actions for Shift-Left, Shift-Right,
>and Shift-Middle (probably not the *real* VUE/X terms...).

OK, I tried this and I get the same behavior in an HPterm.  I popped
up an Xterm and it works (as expected) CAPS or no-CAPS.

>Now, things start to get really fuzzy... There *might* be a program in
>the InterWorks library that puts a caps-lock indicator on the screen.
>I believe that an index of the library's holdings is posted on a
>periodic basis.

When my company bought our HP's (720's & 750's) our tech rep brought
us a program called "capsind" which puts a caps lock indicator window
in the VUE workspace manager bar.  It was free and consequently, 
unsupported.  Regardless, I can't imagine working without it.  Of
course I also couldn't imagine designing a keyboard *without* a Caps
indicator light on it either ;-)

>One other thing to do is to go into the resource settings and define
>Shift-Left, Shift-Right, and Shift-Middle to trigger the same actions
>as Left, Right, and Middle.

Yea, this will work, but I'd rather have HP fix the problem. 
(or is it a "feature"?)


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From: curtw@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Curt Wohlgemuth)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 01:22:42 GMT
Subject: Re: Shared libraries - structural questions
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

bpja@codex.com.au (Brett Adam) writes:

> Does anyone have any references to the 'additional' object format structures  
> that are present in shared libraries on a series 700 machine?
> 
> I'm interested in examining this information directly. I've scoured the header
> files and the limited references to which I have access, all to no avail.
> 
> Any help appreciated.

Check out /usr/include/shl.h.

Curt Wohlgemuth
curtw@cup.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: pasq@cup.hp.com (Mark Di Pasquale)
Subject: Re: How to redirect my new mail to a file
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:26:54 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

You might try writing a program that redirects stdin to your own private
mail file.  Then you can call that program in your .forward file:

	"| /users/you/bin/program"

Also, on my machine, I can copy and edit /usr/mail/pasq.  Perhaps one of
these ideas will help.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: pasq@cup.hp.com (Mark Di Pasquale)
Subject: Re: Help with performance prob. on HP9000/815
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:07:42 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

:     * The statdaemon process gets nearly a second of CPU for about every
:       30 seconds of wall clock time. Up six days (including a weekend) and
:       statdaemon has 325 cpu minutes on it. (What does statdaemon do?)

This is the sched_cpu() routine in the kernel.  Its primary function is
to calculate process priorities (making them better).  When a process
runs, a routine called hardclock() calls setpri() to make a process'
priority worse.  sched_cpu() calls setpri() to make process priorities
better.  A few things go into the priority calcuation (system load, time
since last running, and more).  All of this works together (with other
stuff) to implement round-robin timesharing of the CPU.

:     * The system will never go to 100% idle. Even when there is nothing going
:       on (single user mode - no users on) the sar output says that about 8% of
:       the CPU is going to system. This is not a problem - but on all other
:       HP-9000s I have looked at - when the system is quiet - the sar idle
:       time stays between 98% and 100%. (I think this is a symptom).

Do you know what the system was used for when you let the client site
borrow it?  Did they see the performance slow down?  Any clues from
them?

Bottlenecks are typically CPU, Memory, Swap, File Access, Lan.  However,
it is possible that what seems like a bottleneck in one area is actually
cause by something in another area.  For example, the CPU could be busy
for a reason other than a CPU bottleneck.  Are you able to do some
isolation (e.g., disconnect the lan, add more swap, see which processes
are running, add more memory -one at a time- and then measure the
results)?

:     * We have re-loaded and rebuilt the OS a couple of times.

Was this an update or a scratch install?  A scratch install, where you
remake the file systems, etc. will certainly clean things up.  BTW, were
you running the same OS before and after the client borrowed the system?
What OS are you running now?

:     * I got a free copy of GLANCE and it did not tell me (or HP) anything
:       useful.

Does this mean that you had on on-site SE who used this tool and was not
able to help?

Regards,
Mark DiPasquale

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From: allyn@sdd.hp.com (Allyn Fratkin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: 857 clock stops on shutdown?!?
Date: 5 Nov 1992 10:20:52 -0800
Organization: Hewlett Packard, San Diego Division
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In article <1992Nov5.174011.16975@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, jpittas@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (john.pittas) writes:
> We have noticed that the clock on our 857 does not appear to run
> when the OS (HP/UX 8.02) isn't up.

patch PHKL_1362 will fix this problem.  get in touch with the
response center or your friendly neighborhood hp rep.

not an official response.
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From: cdb@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Carl Burch)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:39:31 GMT
Subject: Re: Changing a shared library into a non-shared library
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp


> The real question:
   Thanks for putting this in - it allows us to suggest other approaches
beyond your original question.  I recommend it as a practice.  

   In this case, Curt Wohlgemuth has answered the original question
correctly :  you can't get there from here.  Generically, the linker
destroys so much information when linking a shlib (or a.out) that there's no
way to put it back together into a .o.

> I have a shared library which I want to add new objects to. I don't have the  
> source to the shared lib. Hence, I need to find a way to feed an existing  
> shared library through the linker. (I think).
> I'd like to be able to issue a command like the following:
> 	ld -b myshlib.sl myobj.o -o myshlib.new.sl
> With the new shared library, containing everything from myshlib.sl + 
> everything from myobj.o, in myshlib.new.sl

   WARNING : Some purists would consider the following a kludge.  They
may feel free to suggest an elegant and non-kludgy alternative, or stop
reading here.  People that need to get the job done, read on.

   Since all you want to do is add (not replace) modules, you can use the
dependent libraries functionality to make the old library a dependent
library of a new shlib containing the code you want to add.  You then move
aside the old library and put the new shlib in its place.  Both shlibs will
be loaded when the new one is referenced (by the old name).  Your example
would then look like :

	mv myshlib.sl myshlib.orig.sl
 	ld -b myobj.o  -o myshlib.sl  myshlib.orig.sl

   You should be careful of whether the pathname embedded in the new shlib
is absolute or relative.  E.g., you might need :
 	ld -b myobj.o -o myshlib.sl `pwd`/myshlib.orig.sl

   You don't say which Series 700 UX8.x release you're on.  There is
additional functionality in UX9.0 to make this more flexible, as well as a
significant defect repair for data shared between dependent shlibs.  Readers
on Series 800/8.0 are invited to update to 9.0 where the dependent libraries
functionality will appear in the S800 line.  I recommend reading ALL of
"Programming on HP-UX" (Part # B2355-90026 E0892) before getting this far
into building shared libraries.

						Carl Burch
						HP California Language Lab
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From: bpja@codex.com.au (Brett Adam)
Subject: Changing a shared library into a non-shared library
Reply-To: bpja@codex.com.au
Organization: Codex Software Development Pty Ltd
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 04:10:51 GMT

Under HP/UX 8.x on a 700 series machine, is it possible to modify/change a  
shared library into a non-shared relocatable object file for input to the  
linker?

The real question:

I have a shared library which I want to add new objects to. I don't have the  
source to the shared lib. Hence, I need to find a way to feed an existing  
shared library through the linker. (I think).

I'd like to be able to issue a command like the following:

	ld -b myshlib.sl myobj.o -o myshlib.new.sl

With the new shared library, containing everything from myshlib.sl + everything  
from myobj.o, in myshlib.new.sl

Of course, the linker takes one look a myshlib.sl and says "oh, this is a  
shared library, don't import its content, just refer to symbols from it" which  
is of course what you normally want.

Having examined the header structures, etc. I can't see much difference between  
a shared library and a relocatable executable at the structural level. Sure a  
shlib has additional dynamic loader entries in the code section, etc. but the  
bulk of the content is still structurally the same.

I've tried changing the filetype from 0x10e to 0x106, but without knowing the  
checksum algorithm used for the fileheader, the linker rejects my file as being  
corrupt.


Anyone have any ideas/insights?

Thanks in advance,



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