From: reynolds@rightbrain.com (Jack Reynolds)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: NeXt vs Apple -- a couple comments (rtf)
Date: 14 Aug 92 23:34:54 GMT
Reply-To: reynolds@rightbrain.com

In article <826@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> reynolds@rightbrain.com (Jack  
Reynolds) writes:
> In article <1992Aug6.143846.29604@osf.org> david@postman.gr.osf.org  
(David  
> George) writes:
> > In article <1992Aug6.134236.12851@socrates.umd.edu>,  
ice@socrates.umd.edu  
> (Fredrik Nyman) writes:
> > |> While Jack Reynolds' comments about NeXT vs Apple are mostly  
correct,
> > |> I think it was a bit *too* biased against Apple. 
> > 
> > |> 2. Color.  While the NeXT's software is vastly superior, NeXT  
is rather
> > |>    weak on the hardware side.  True (24-bit) color is  
nonexistent for
> > |>    the NeXTstation, and while it's available for the NeXTcube,  
it's
> > |>    *quite* pricey.  I really think that the comparison should
> > |>    have been between a Quadra and a NeXTdimension system  
rather than
> > |>    between a Quadra and a NeXTstation Turbo Color.
> 

OK, here is the price comparison for a Quadra and a NeXT Dimension.   
I had to use quite a bit of third party stuff on the Macintosh side.   
The Quadra configuration also includes the software to make the  
machine networkable with both other macs and with fax and data modems  
(something we take for granted on the NeXT).

Macintosh Quadra 950
Apple list price

Part Number	Item					Price

M6720LL/A	Quadra 950 8/230				 
$8,499.00
	Includes 1.4 floppy, internal 230 meg Hard Drive, 8MB Ram,  
1meg V-Ram

M5952ll/A (2) 	Macintosh Memory expansion			 
$598.00
	4 1 MB Ram Simms  $299.00 per set (2 sets = 8 MB)

M5812LL/A	Macintosh 21" color Display			 
$4,599.00
	8 Bit color with 1 meg V-Ram on Quadra, 16 bit color with 2  
meg V-Ram

		SuperMac Thunder board (24 bit)			 
$3,499.00

		TrueVision NewVista Plus			 
$3,599.00

M0312	Apple Extended Keyboard II				 
$229.00

		Apple Share 3.0				$995.00

		Friendly Net Cable adapter			 
$195.00

		Shiva NetModem 96				 
$1,699.00

		Cypress Pro Net Fax				 
$1,199.00

		QuickMail					 
$395.00

		Dictionary					 
$125.00


Macintosh Quadra 950,  16/230 , 21" Color Display, Keyboard & Mouse 
	$25,631.00
Apple LaserWriter  IIG, 300 dpi Printer				 
$4,599.00
Tektronics 300 dpi Wax Thermal Transfer Color Printer		 
	$9,999.00
							________
				
							$40,229.00

NeXTdimension Cube Turbo 
NeXT List Price

Part Number	Item					Price

N1000A-4760	NeXT Cube Turbo  16MB, 400HD			 
$9,775.00
	Includes  2.44 floppy, internal 400MB Hard Drive, 16MB Ram 

N7014-2833	NeXTdimention Board with i860 and 16MB		 
$4,995.00

N4005		MegaPixel 21" Color Display			 
$3,495.00

N4004		NeXT Sound Box				$125.00

N8504-4806	NeXT Starting Point Kit			$225.00
	Includes NeXT Keyboard and Mouse

		Zytell Modem (14.4 fax, 14.4 modem)		 
$399.00

		NxFax (switching software)			 
$125.00

NeXTdimention Cube Turbo, 16/400,  21" Color Display, Keyboard &  
Mouse	$19,139.00
NeXT 400 dpi Laser printer					 
$1,795.00
NeXT 360 dpi Color Printer					 
$3,495.00							 
	________

							$24,429.00

In this example, the NeXTdimension Cube Turbo is over 39% less than  
the Macintosh.  

With the money you save ($15,800!), you could almost buy 2 more NeXT  
Color Turbo's with 17" monitors to put on your network.

It looks like Apple's customers are paying too much.

--
Jack Reynolds, VP Sales
RightBrain Software, 132 Hamilton Avenue, Palo Alto, California USA   
94301
(415)326-2974 or(415)326-2977 Fax
reynolds@rightbrain.com


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