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From: helen@nomad.urich.edu (Helen C. O'Boyle)
Subject: Building/using SVR4 (AT&T) shared libraries (i486 platform)
Summary: it doesn't seem to work very conveniently
Organization: University of Richmond
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:45:51 GMT

If you have successfully built a shared object library under SVR4 on
an i386/i486 platform, maybe you can answer a couple questions I have:

1.  Are there any tools besides nm (for a primitive "ar t" equivalent)
    and ld (for building a new shared object library all at once) to
    make life easier than it's appeared for the past 8 hours?

2.  Is there a better way to link in modules which are in non-shared
    libraries, which are referenced only by functions in shared libraries,
    other than explicitly naming the modules on the command line?

    For example, suppose I am compiling "foo.c".  "foo.c" references
    functions in shared libraries -lc and -ldvlp (which is the shared
    library I built).  Now, -ldvlp references a few functions in -lm
    (which is NOT a shared library), which were not linked in to -ldvlp
    when I created it.  Some pieces of foo.c DO CALL a piece or two of
    -ldvlp, so the answer I'm looking for is not just "-Wl,-z,nodefs".
    I want some way to get the *relevant* pieces of -lm into the "foo"
    binary without having to explicitly name them in the makefile.
    IDEAS?  (Gee, is THIS why so few SVR4 libraries came with .so
    versions in the development set?)

Thanks in advance for sharing your wisdom.  RTFM'ing the man pages and
the programmers' guide usually does the trick, but it just didn't help
this time.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.programmer
From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (Stew Ellis)
Subject: Re: personalized xlock
Organization: GMI Engineering&Management Institute, Flint, MI
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 00:26:31 GMT

winney@DAL.MOBIL.COM (Randy Winney) writes:

>In article <1b094aINNpop@goldwing.ksu.ksu.edu>, hendric@goldwing.ksu.ksu.edu (Richard Hendricks) writes:
>|> Hello,
>|>  I'm an amateur C programmer, and a complete newbie to programming on Unix and
>|> Xwindows.  I would like to write my own Xloxk program that will print a 
>|> picture of celluar automata (out of an old Scientific American) on the screen
>|> while xlocked.  I need help with a few things...
>|> 	1.  how do you set-up the graphics mode? (ie. XXXX by XXXX by XXX colors?)
>|> 	2.  How do you put pixels on the screen? 
>|> 	3.  is there some way to have it take over the screen w/out a window?
>|> 				(a la the original Xlock?)
>|> 	4.  What's the limit on array sizes?  (I plan on using arrays of   
>|> 					short integers to help reduce mem. use)
>|> 	5.  Is there any way to have Xlock run the program for me? (saves a lot)
>|> 	6.  How would you get data form the command line?  i.e.:
>|> 	  	mylock pearl	
>|> 		Run mylock, password pearl?
>|> 		(How do i get the program to read in pearl?) 

>I did the same thing to make my own version of xlock that would display
>some neat string art graphics. It's much easier if you just start with
>the xlock source code and modify it to display the graphics you want.
>Since my graphics just involved drawing line segments, I started with
>the code that implements the "qix" option in xlock, since it does something
>similar. After modifying qix.c and re-making xlock, it now displays
>my graphics when I run the qix option. I didn't bother adding a new option.

>If you are new to X and C, starting with the original xlock code gives
>you a great example to study.

>-- 
>Randy Winney       winney@dal.mobil.com
>Mobil Exploration & Producing Technology Center
>Dallas, Texas

I was more easily amused:  I merely wanted to replace the logo in the
"bounce"?  mode (flashing SUN logos) with our school logo, plus get rid of
swarm and one of the other dull modes.  I really wanted dynamically loadable
at runtime graphics but gave up.  I then rigged up the xlock to run as the
idle getty.  Our labs now have colorful active displays rather than dead
dark tubes when not in use (yes we have hardware maintenance, I blew up my
personal monitor while working on this a year ago.)  xautolock is able to
run the lock program of your choice, which might be a simpler place to start
for the locking part.

I would be interested in the new string-art code, to put into xlock as
another of the random selections.

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From: Dave-Nuttall@cup.portal.com (David Dave Nuttall)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.programmer
Subject: How_to: File in Use
Date: Thu,  8 Oct 92 12:41:52 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Request "how to" info on the following:

In "C" on System V UNIX (3.2) how do you determine if a file 
is in use by a current user?  The approximate function is 
pstat under Xenix.

Thanks.
From: leisner@eso.mc.xerox.com (Marty Leisner)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.programmer
Subject: linker unresolved makes an executable?
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:16:53 GMT
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I have a Sun Sparc (running 4.1.2).

When I have undefined externals, the linker is making an executable.
So rerunning make says: nothing to do.

What am I doing wrong?  I remember undefined externals didn't make executables...

Marty    leisner.henr801c@xerox.com 
          Member of the League for Programming Freedom 
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 1) Write down the problem
 2) Think very hard
 3) Write down the answer     -- Murray Gell-mann
From: jmp@moscom.com (Joe Palumbos)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.programmer
Subject: Re: Question about Internet Services
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:08:21 GMT
Organization: Moscom Corp., Pittsford NY
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Barry Margolin (barmar@think.com) wrote:
: In article <4619@moscom.com> jmp@moscom.com (Joe Palumbos) writes:
: >
: >Is there a function that will return an unused port-number, or allow
: >you to find out which port-number was assigned as described above?
: 
: The use of a 0 port in the bind(2) call simplifies this, since the kernel
: can pick the port and bind to it in an atomic operation.  Getsockname(2)
: should tell you the port it chose.
: -- 

Thanks, Barry (& rstevens, &kardanev), This works fine.  

Now my question is this:  
According to 'Unix Network Programming' (W.R.Stevens, p.288), the
port assigned should be in the range of 1024-5000.  

I'm running under SunOS 4.1.2, and after doing a bind() (using a
port of '0' on an AF_INET/DGRAM socket), then a getsockname(), the 
port-number assigned is '1'.  ...And not only that, port-number 1 
is already assigned in my /etc/services table ('tcpmux   1/tcp').

Can anybody tell me what's wrong here?  Maybe I'm barking up the
wrong tree;  what I want to do is grab a port-number, then pass
the port-number to each of my children for them to bind to. (I
don't know if we can both bind to the same port...)  Then I can send
them messages on that port, without specifying a service for each
one.  (..since I don't know how many children I will have.)

I could do this with named pipes or named sockets, but I have to
do other communications of the same type across the net to known
services, and it'd be nice to use the same mechanism. 
-- 
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From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.programmer
Subject: Re: Question about Internet Services
Date: 7 Oct 1992 18:03:14 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com

In article <4632@moscom.com> jmp@moscom.com (Joe Palumbos) writes:
>I'm running under SunOS 4.1.2, and after doing a bind() (using a
>port of '0' on an AF_INET/DGRAM socket), then a getsockname(), the 
>port-number assigned is '1'.  ...And not only that, port-number 1 
>is already assigned in my /etc/services table ('tcpmux   1/tcp').

I suspect you're not accessing the sockaddr structure correctly, so that's
not the actual port.  After the server does this, does "netstat -an" show a
binding for "udp ... *.1 *.*"?

The fact that a port number is assigned in /etc/services is immaterial; the
kernel doesn't know about that file (there are very few files (maybe none)
that the kernel ever consults).  All it cares about is whether there's
already a process using a port.

>Can anybody tell me what's wrong here?  Maybe I'm barking up the
>wrong tree;  what I want to do is grab a port-number, then pass
>the port-number to each of my children for them to bind to. (I
>don't know if we can both bind to the same port...)  Then I can send
>them messages on that port, without specifying a service for each
>one.  (..since I don't know how many children I will have.)

The children shouldn't be binding to the port, they should be connecting to
it.  In general, one process (the server) binds and everyone else (clients)
connects.
-- 
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

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From: fkao@buengf.bu.edu (Frank Kao)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.programmer
Subject: Help-> Need signal.h usage examples
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:33:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: bu.98495
Organization: College of Engineering, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: fkao@buengf.bu.edu

Hi, unix gurus:

I am trying to write an timer interrupt driver here, and I am having
all kinds of problems.  I am having trouble understanding the man pages
that came with the Sun OS.  Anyone out there that have an example of
working code, so I can have a better idea of how signal.h works.

thanks
fkao@buengf.bu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.programmer
From: cariapa@angelo.amd.com (Sandeep Cariapa)
Subject: stdout vs stderr (was Re: Should I use syslog?)
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Santa Clara, CA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:56:20 GMT

In article <bosullvn.718484862@unix1.tcd.ie> bosullvn@unix1.tcd.ie (Bryan O'Sullivan) writes:
>mike@inform.co.nz (Mike Williams) writes:
>
>>  * A colleague has the impression that re-directing stderr is somehow
>>    different from re-directing stdout, and that "2> /dev/console" may be
>>    safe when "> /dev/console" is not.  Does this have any foundation?
>
>I strongly doubt it.  Stderr and stdout behave in the same way on
>evrything I've come across.

	Bzzt! Wrong answer! Stderr is indeed different from stdout.
Try this out:

#include <stdio.h>

main ()
{
  fprintf(stdout, "This is to stdout\n");
  fprintf(stderr, "This is to stderr\n");
  exit(0);
}

Now:
bach :/tmp/sandeep 91 > cc test.c
bach :/tmp/sandeep 92 > ./a.out
This is stdout
This is stderr
bach :/tmp/sandeep 94 > ./a.out > out
This is stderr
bach :/tmp/sandeep 96 > ./a.out >& out


	Keep in mind that ./a.out >& out is the C-Shell version of
Bourne's ./a.out 2> out. 

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From: t9014199@phillip.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.unix.programmer
Subject: Capturing CC output using popen
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:49:35 GMT
Organization: RMIT (Bundoora Campus)

Hi there,

	I am writing a program that calls cc from within it. I need to be
	able to store the compiler errors and warnings that may occur.

	I have tries to use popen to capture the output and store it in 
	a buffer. BUT since cc sends it errors to stderr, I am unable
	to capture the output.

	Any suggestions?

	Thanks DARREN
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: haedener@iacrs1.unibe.ch (Konrad Haedener)
Subject: Re: TeX 3.14 under AIX 3.2
Keywords: TeX LaTeX
Reply-To: haedener@iacrs1.unibe.ch
Organization: University of Berne
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 09:32:05 GMT

In article <Bvt9x3.GKo@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, hausman@caffeine.cen.uiuc.edu writes:
|> I've been trying to compile TeX on our RS/6000 systems running AIX 3.2
|> and have not had much luck.
|> 
|> The version of TeX is 3.14.  The distribution compiles and runs fine on
|> our Sun SPARCstations, so I'm assuming that the particular distribution
|> that I have is free of bugs...
|> 
|> I have no problem compiling TeX on the RS/6000--the problem arises when I
|> tell it to make the format files (i.e., plain.fmt).  Shortly after it
|> starts up initex and prints the filename (plain.tex), it complains that
|> there is an undefined control sequence on the first non-comment line of the
|> file.  If I tell it to continue, it reports the same thing for each subsequent
|> line until finally it gives up from too many errors.
|> 
|> I've looked back through some of the comp.unix.aix archives and tried a 
|> few of the suggestions there, but after 5 or more compilations, not one of
|> them has worked.  They always break in the same place.
|> 
|> Has anyone had any luck with this particular version of TeX on the RS/6000?
|> If so, please let me know what you did to make it work!
|> 
|> 
|> Kevin
|> 
|> ----
|> Kevin Hausman
|> CCSO Workstation Support
|> hausman@caffeine.cen.uiuc.edu


Where is our FAQ? Haven't seen it for months. This one is a candidate to enter
it, as we've seen it many times in here and in comp.text.tex.

o  use web-5.851c and web2c-5.851c to supersede the corresponding parts
   in the standard Unix TeX distribution (all of this is available on
   iacrs1.unibe.ch (130.92.11.3), pub/TeX/;

o  use bsdcc

o  compile-Options: -O -DSCHAR_TYPE="signed char"

o  when make stops due to compiler errors (around 5 cases), recompile the file
   in question by hand, adding `-D_POSIX_SOURCE' to the bsdcc command line;

o  if you have xlccmp 1.2.0.n, n<12, recompile file tex2c.c without 
   optimization (-O) (optimizer bug).

Credit to Bernd Raichle, University of Stuttgart.
-- 
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University of Berne
Switzerland                                 haedener@iacrs1.unibe.ch
From: bware@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Bob Ware)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: ksh bug (trap -)
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:13:59 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

bware@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Bob Ware) writes:
: This looks like a ksh bug to me.
: 
...

Well... after discussing this with IBM, I find that 
	trap -
is now invalid syntax.  POSIX has changed it so that 
	trap [action condition ...]
rather than
	trap [action] [condition ...]
is correct.

So I should have used:
	trap - ERR

Note that this is contrary to how it is shown in the publications I have 
looked at, but I guess future editions will agree with POSIX.

-- 
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Computing and Networking, Colorado School of Mines, Golden, Co 80401, USA
(303) 273-3987
bware@mines.colorado.edu
From: shah@fnsony.fnal.gov (Hemant Shah)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: How can I find out which model of RS/6000 am I logged on ??
Date: 7 Oct 1992 22:50:49 GMT
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, Batavia, IL
Distribution: world
Reply-To: shah@fnalb.fnal.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnsony.fnal.gov

Suppose I telnet to an RS/6000 system how can I tell whether it is model 320
or model 550 or any other model ??

Thanks in advance :-)
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From: eoq@vthnw.cvm.msu.edu (Edward Quillen)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Determining the terminal type
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:31:47 GMT
Organization: Veterinary Teaching Hospital, Michigan State Univ.

We are having a lot of problems with terminal detection at login.
Currently we are using 'qterm' that I got from an AIX ftp site.
Sometimes it detects our terminals, and sometimes it hangs, and still
other times it comes back as dumb on terminals where it successfully
worked earlier.

Is there a better way to detect the terminal????

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+++ ED (Edward Quillen)   (517) 336-1293      +++
+++ Vet Teaching Hosp.    System Admin.       +++
+++ Email: quillen@cps.msu.edu                +++
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: ben@osiris.usi.utah.edu (Ben Pratt)
Subject: Re: FDDI Trouble...
Keywords: FDDI fiber
Organization: Utah Supercomputing Institute
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 14:58:33 GMT

In article <4105@elwood.prz.tu-berlin.de> wittig@tubprz.prz.tu-berlin.de
(Mathias Wittig) writes:

  > Physical Connection Management (PCM), which is a part of CMT, tests
  > which kind of Port (A, B, M or S) is on the other side of the connection.
  > This test is done independently for each port. It is impossible to
  > explain the whole PCM here, but briefly explained the test is done by
  > sending a defined sequence of linestates (not symbols!), which are
  > answered by the other station. In this way, the presence and the type of
  > the other port (and some add. information) can be detected. This is a
  > dialogue and can't (obviously) be done in your configuration. After PCM
  > has finished, CMT chooses the appropriate data path (WrapA, WrapB, Thru
  > or Isolated).  If you are interested in details, ask your IBM Rep for
  > the Redbook about FDDI. This book is much easier to read than the FDDI -
  > Standard and gives the answer to all of your questions.
  > 
  > If you need the order code for the book, send me a mail.
  > 
  > Matthias Wittig
  > wittig@prz.tu-berlin.de

Thanks for the more detailed reply.  I have since read several articles
on FDDI in the IEEE publications.  Several of them say very directly
that class B connections (one PHY and one MAC) can only be made by using
a concentrator.  A friend at IBM did give me a work around using
splitters and joiners (but in the end you are basically mimicing what 
the concentrator does).  I have ordered the Red Book you mentioned.
Again, thanks for your explanations.

Ben
ben@snow.usi.utah.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: dbrillha@dave.mis.semi.harris.com (Dave Brillhart)
Subject: AIX *IS* BUGGY
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:11:18 GMT
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Reply-To: dbrillha@dave.mis.semi.harris.com
Organization: Harris Semiconductor


>The Oct 13, 1992 issue of "Midrange Systems" has an amusing article
>in the RS Review insert called "The Lore of AIX" wherein they supposedly
>explode certain myths about AIX.  This rag is certainly high on political
>content and low on technical competence.  Perhaps the following quote
>belongs more in comp.unix.aix.humor.funny:

>  "Despite the success of the RS/6000, some prospects wonder if IBM's
>  UNIX operating system is unstable.  The kernel of truth that often
>  underlies some rumors is that the initial release of AIX had problems.
>  According to Kolbo [Tom Kolbo, president of Emphasys Software], an
>  update two months after the initial release fixed all the known problems,
>  and none have been encountered since."

Oh yeah! That is funnny! 

We back up our machines using a variable length block size. Testing
has shown a MUCH faster backup time using variable lenghts. One of our
drives crashed. No problem, just restore from tape. The log files all
said the backups were successful.

No matter what we tried: dd, restore, dd on a Sun, using conv=noerror,
.. nothing worked. We tried adjusting block sizes with no success.

Turns out, after 6 hours of panic, that IBM has a "known" bug using
variable length block. To restore, use a huge block size. We used
a block size of 81920 and it worked.

Hope this might save someone someday.

# uname -ax
AIX platinum 65884 2 3 000001015C00

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From: kevin@shady.UUCP (Kevin Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: max fs size
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:46:37 GMT
Reply-To: kevin@shady.UUCP (Kevin Smith)
Organization: ShadeTree Software, Inc.

:In article <1992Oct2.153214.29506@selway.umt.edu> mcguire@selway.umt.edu (Charles J McGuire) writes:
:>In article <1992Sep29.143656.13323@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> woan@cactus.org writes:
:>>In article <zh_pw1s_@aix01.rz.fht-mannheim.de> ente@aix01.rz.fht-mannheim.de (Karsten Winkovics) writes:
:>>>Waht is the maximum file system size under AIX3.2???
:>>
:>>2GB currently, I believe.
:>>
:>I'm not so sure about this. I currently have a filesystem defined at 2.1G.
:>I looked for some info about max size, but couldn't find any. So far it
:>hasn't come close (1.6G) to filling up. If there is a maximum and it is
:>2G and there are problems I'll run into with this, would somone please 
:>help out with an explanation?
>

The maximum would be hex 0x7fffffff = 2,147,483,647 or thereabouts.


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum)
Subject: Re: FDDI Trouble...
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:03:21 GMT


In article <bowman-071092085835@bowman.tamu.edu> bowman@csrp.tamu.edu
(Kenneth P. Bowman) writes:
>
> We have noticed a very similar problem with our 550 on Ethernet.
> When we reboot the 550, it will not ping any other hosts until
> another host pings it first.  I don't know if this is a known bug,
> but it sounds like it is not unique to the FDDI interface.

I have seen behavior which could be attributable to this using vanilla
Ethernet.  It's very infrequent, though.

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From: bware@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Bob Ware)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: Survey... RS/6000
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:23:59 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

jogi@austin.ibm.com (Vijay Joglekar) writes:
: 
: Folks,
: 
: I need your help.  I am trying to find out what kind of problems
: you folks face with you RS/6000.  Did you have any tools that helped you
: to solve the problem?  If not what would they be.
: 
...

How about a program that would look at the present state of the odm.
The program would then write a script that would rebuild the odm to
that state again.

That might be a BIG help when recovering or installing systems.
If nothing else, you could easliy see the command you need to change
a particular part of the odm to what you need it to be.


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Computing and Networking, Colorado School of Mines, Golden, Co 80401, USA
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix