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From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Subject: Re: King Crimson
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:03:30 GMT

In <haley.722167967@husc11> haley@husc11.harvard.edu (Elizabeth Haley) writes:
>dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
>>You should get into their wierder albums.  Give a good listen to "Starless
>>and Bible Black" or "Islands" for some real strange stuff.  If you're very
>>daring, listen to "Lark's tongues in aspic" which is too much for me to
>>listen to.

>Then please never, ever listen to Fripps Solo Stuff, especially "Let The
>Power Fall" and albums of pure Frippertronics.  If LTIA was intimidating,
>This stuff will be damaging...

I'm not a big _Larks'_Tongues_ fan, though "Book Of Saturday" and "Exiles" are
both really cool pieces.

My favorite KC albums are _Islands_, _Red_ and _Discipline_.  _Starless_ and
_Court_ are both pretty good, too.

Of Fripp's solo work, I give _Exposure_ a spin now and then (especially for
"Water Music" and "Here Comes The Flood"), and liked The League Of Crafty
Guitarists' _Show_Of_Hands_ quite a bit.  But I couldn't stand either
_Let_The_Power_Fall_ or _Evening_Star_.

-- 
Michael Rawdon				 rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

"A pretty sight it seemed to be; an avenue of eternal peace,
 But he said, 'What is here can soon burn down... I'm the king of sunset
	town.'"
					- Marillion, "The King Of Sunset Town"
From: 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: Thin Lizzy\
Date: 18 Nov 1992 21:59:17 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu

I'm still waiting to hear if there are any Thin Lizzy or Black Sabbath
lovers out there.  Also, does anybody have any information on the
band Masters of Reality?  I'd like to find out if they're still around.
Thanks.
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From: p_derosi@oz.plymouth.edu (Paul R. Derosia)
Subject: Greatest Band
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, NH.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 01:40:25 GMT


Easy Pink Floyd
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Subject: Re: How about Def Leppard !!
From: klacher@perdita.gac.edu (Kimberly A Lacher)
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:30:52 -0600

In article <AMATHUR.92Nov19003314@thunder.EEAP.CWRU.Edu>  writes:
> Hi all !
> 
> This is really a great newsgroup. I have heard all my favorites  
mentioned as
> well as LOTS of groups I hadn't even heard (of) !!
> 
> I don't think I've noticed mention of Def Leppard yet. They do classify  
as
> classic rock, don't they ? 
> 
> Hysteria........
> 
> 
> 
> ARE YOU JOKING??????????????????????????
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From: johnsons@cheshire.oxy.edu (Sarah Curtis Johnson)
Subject: Re: Neil Young
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Distribution: world,local
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:41:12 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.094935@ece.arizona.edu> sununu@ece.arizona.edu (Arun Vaidyanath) writes:
>Tim Corcoran writes:
>
>What about Neil Young?
>
>>>I feel that Neil Young is a great artist and all that 
>but the way I have heard it, he is an extreme egoist and was 
>the first to split the great CSNY. This may be incorrect and
>I am sorry for that!! Does anyone know the truth behind the 
>CSNY --> CSN transition.
>ALso, why the falsetto!! In all his interviews, he seems to
>sport a normal voice!!

Well, being an *extreme* CSNY fan, I believe that, at least from the 
perspective of CS&N, that Young was indeed at fault for the split, although
throughout their recording days, they emphasized their individuality, so it
wouldn't necessarily be anyone's *fault*.  Young, however, certainly appeared
to have developed an ego beyond his talents.  

I have been to two recent CSN concerts (in the last 2-3 years) and at both,
several disparaging comments were made as to Mr.Young's attitude.  I admit that
my loyalty towards these three have biased me against him, and so cannot claim
an objective view, but I would think that the rumors would be true.  

I was hoping that someone would mention CSNY, as I have a special spot in my 
heart for their music.  Of all classic rock, they would probably be my  
favorites, although not alone.  My list of favorites includes all the standards,Zeppelin, Floyd, the Beatles, the Eagles, Tull,the Stones,the Doors, Buffalo 
Springfield, and Queen, if they count.  

As you could imagine, I was thrilled to see this newsgroup develop, as my tastesare almost exclusively definable as classic rock.  Thanks for being here!

And any CSNY/CSN fans, I'd love to hear from you!  Or even Buffalo Springfield, as it is somewhat related...:)

-Sarah
johnsons@cheshire.oxy.edu
 
>Arun
From: mcsdc1al@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: Re: Fave riffs & solos
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:06:06 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

here's some of my fave riffs, some of which are classics and some are less well
known.

 1. "Ohio"-Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
 2. "Day Tripper"-The Beatles
 3. "Voodoo Chile(Slight Return)"-Jimi Hendrix Experience
 4. "Burning of the Midnight Lamp"-Jimi Hendrix Experience
 5. "Slash'n'Burn"-Manic Street Preachers
 6. "Motown Junk"-Manic Street Preachers
 7. "In A Different Place"-Ride
 8. "Holidays in the Sun"-Sex Pistols
 9. "Waterfall"-The Stone Roses
10. "December"-Teenage Fanclub (bass riff)
11. "The Model"-Kraftwerk
12. "The Last Time"-Rolling Stones
13. "There's No Other Way"-Blur
14. "What Difference Does it Make?"-The Smiths
15. "This Charming Man"-The Smiths


And some favoutite solos...

1. "Sympathy For The Devil"-Rolling Stones
2. "Down By The River"-Neil Young
3. "The End"-The Beatles
4. "You Love Us"-Manic Street Preachers


Thanks


Lucas
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From: tullfan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Richard Thompson)
Subject: Led Zep
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 02:59:02 GMT

Hey all.  I saw a lot of Led zep subject heads and i just wanted to say that
i think they are the most overrated band ever.  they got big on stuff they 
stole from all the people they jammed with and they constantly screwed up
in their attempts at playing live.  I think the primary thing behind
zep was image and producing.  they are the elvis of hard rock.  and though
they have some decent songs and they make nice background music for 
partying or travelling, they certainly aren't the musical gods that many of
my friends make them out to be.

Now Yes, Tull, King Crimson, SuperTramp, and Procol Harum on the other hand....
(-:

rich.

(i imagine i will recieve a few flames for this post, butcha won't change
my mind...i just think they are an overrated band... )

-- 
"For I am a Bear of Very Little Brain,
 and big words Bother me."
	-Winnie-the-Pooh
From: csa09@seq1.keele.ac.uk (Paul Singleton)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: Re: Steely Dan
Date: 18 Nov 92 00:00:53 GMT
Organization: Keele University, England

From article <MDL.92Nov16202305@nv.cypress.com>, by mdl@cypress.com (Matt Landrum):

>  ive been thinking, one great band that no one has mentioned is steely
>    dan!  any other steely dan fans out there? ive only recently started
>    listening to them but their GREAT! can anyone reccomend some good
>    albums by them?!

> Pretzel Logic, Katy Lied, and Aja are my 3 favorites.
> Of course you can't go wrong with A Decade of Steely Dan.
> 
> Donald Fagan's solo album, Nightfly, is also
> exxxxxxxxxxxxxcellent!

They were great indeed, but they weren't really a _band_.  I suspect that
Donald Fagen and Walter Becker wrote all the songs around the piano (and,
judging from their respective solo output, that Fagen did most of the
work), then they _arranged_ them for rock instruments (and more), often
leaving in the piano part.  The songs do not have to be played loud to
work: their harmonic structure is their real strength.  And the lyrics
which, underneath the irony and obscurity, are sentimental and sensitive.

HiFi News did a discography a year or two ago: maybe I'll look it up
and post it.  The six main albums are, as I recall,

	Can't buy a thrill
	Countdown to ecstasy
	Pretzel Logic
	Katy Lied
	Aja
	Gaucho

but there's also two albums of early stuff, a film soundtrack, "FM",
an otherwise unreleased track on the compilation "Gold", and "Dallas".
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From: mdl@cypress.com (Matt Landrum)
Subject: Re: best guitar solos
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor Southeast Design Center
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:33:51 GMT


Well, I've been listening to Boston today so...

Second solo in "Long Time"
Solo in "Gonna Hitch a Ride"
--


Matt Landrum                    | mdl@cypress.com
Cypress Southeast Design Center | office: (601) 324-4609, FAX - 4614
1 Research Blvd, Suite 200      | "There's a fine line between 
Starkville, MS  39759           |  stupid and clever" -- Spinal Tap


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From: rogers@rosencrantz.osf.org (Andrew Rogers)
Subject: Re: Steely Dan
Organization: HICAM/OSD
Distribution: world,local
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:04:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.152228@ece.arizona.edu> sununu@ece.arizona.edu (Arun Vaidyanath) writes:
>A band that never gave a live tour if they cld avoid it!!

They toured a couple times their first year or two, but F&B's reluctance
to do so caused a rift between them and the other members, who needed money
from touring to offset the lack of songwriting royalties.  (I have a US
Army radio show circa 1972 where F&B discuss touring [among other things,
like ticket prices] with the interviewer, then-noted New York DJ Alison
"Nightbird" Steele.  I'll make a tape copy for anyone who wants one, but
be forewarned that it's a) not in very good condition, and b) more
inadvertently hilarious than informative.)

>in fact they are
>so much a studio band that there is believed to be a rare recording (live)
>of the song "reeling in the years" which is reputedly the only existing
>archive of live steely dan today. 

A live take of "Bodhisattva" - taken from their last live performance (I
don't have my copy here, but I believe it was in July, 1974 at the Santa
Monica Civic Auditorium) - was issued as the B-side of "Hey Nineteen" and also
appears on the most recent CD issue of "A Decade of Steely Dan".  I find it
hard to believe there isn't more where that came from... any suggestions,
bootleg collectors?

>fagen did give some live performances a month or so ago at NY, Phila
>etc.with Michael McDonald and others but Becker wasnt in it!!

Walter Becker has appeared at some of the gigs, and even sang at one.

AWR
old fart at play
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From: rogers@rosencrantz.osf.org (Andrew Rogers)
Subject: Do you know what your parents are listening to?
Organization: HICAM/OSD
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:42:52 GMT

The following is a real letter, straight from the FBI files:







						January 30, 1964




	Mr. Robert F. Kennedy
	Attorney General USA
	Washington,  D.C.





	Dear Mr. Kennedy:

	Who do you turn to when your 'teen age daughter buys and
	brings home pornographic or obscene materials being sold
	along with objects directed and aimed at the 'teen age
	market in every City, Village and Record shop in this
	Nation?

	My daughter brought home a record of "LOUIE LOUIE" and
	I, after reading that the record had been banned from
	being played on the air because it was obscene, proceeded
	to try to decipher the jumble of words,
	The lyrics are so filthy that I can-not enclose them in
	this letter.

	This record is on the WAND label # 143-A and recorded by
	The KINGSMEN "a Jerden Production by Ken Chase and Jerry
	Dennon" and there is an address 1650 Broadway New York, N.Y.

	I would like to see these people, The "artists", the Record
	company and the promoters prosecuted to the full extent of
	the law.

	We all know there is obscene materials available for those
	who seek it, but when they start sneaking in this material
	in the guise of the latest 'teen age rock & roll hit record
	these morons have gone too far.

	This land of ours is headed for an extreme state of moral
	degradation what with this record, the biggest hit movies
	and the sex and violence exploited on T.V.

	How can we stamp out this menace? ? ? ?


					Yours very truly,

					<name/address deleted>
From: cokin@aludra.usc.edu (Darren Cokin)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: My favorite Bands
Date: 15 Nov 1992 20:40:13 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

I have no permanant favorite.  Usually it's just the most recent thing I've
bought.

My fav's are Zepplin, Floyd, Hendrix, Credence, Allmans, Doors, Fleetwood Mac, 
Jefferson Airplane, Eagles, Blind Faith, Traffic, The Who, Lynryd Skynyrd,
the Kinks, Steve Miller, Grateful Dead, and last but DEFINATLY not least,
The Beatles.

These are ALL great bands.  Why bother picking one out as the 'best'?  That's
totally subjective.

My favorite band this week is Phish.  That's because I just got Junta last
week.  If you've never heard of this band (most people havn't), check out
rec.music.phish, and you'll see what a huge following they have.  This band
is totally awsome, and is one of the few recent bands I consider to be in the
same league as the one's above.  Better than some actually.

Anyone hear remember Dr. Hook and the Medicine Show?  Obscure band from the 
seventies with some cool stuff.  Carry me Carrie is one of the best songs ever
recorded IMO.  (they've got some crap too)


                                                          Darren

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From: daugherb@b8.b8.ingr.com (Bruce Daugherty)
Subject: Re: The Rodeo is back in town!
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:40:49 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.202405.13803@b8.b8.ingr.com>, daugherb@b8.b8.ingr.com (Bruce Daugherty) writes:
>     Alright boys and girls,
>            Put on your cowboy hats & boots and let's kick up some
>     dirt, fill up your plate with lotsa bar-be-que and crank up that
>     ol' V-8, cause the rodeo is back in town!!
>            
>            How about a big round of applause for
> 
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>                   *****   *****     *     *****   *
> 






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From: fes9s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Frank Erick Sellin)
Subject: Little Feat 
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:36:37 GMT

Boy am I glad someone mentioned these guys (and women back up singers, from
time to time). Talk about a panoply of the roots of American music. These
guys do it all, and I highly recommend them, although Lowell George's
death hurt the band.  Still, they're putting out some decent stuff
on their albums these days. (Shake Me Up, IMHO, not as good as Let It
Roll or Representing the Mambo).  A great live band, too, on a par
with , dare I say it, the Dead or the Brothers (not quite as much
improv from the Feat, but it's there...).

Which brings me to my question. Having seen them live, I figured Paul
Barrere did all the slide stuff since he joined. Then I read an
interview where Paul says Lowell played a great slide guitar (and
I think he said Lowell did most of it on Dixie Chicken, the album.)
So my question is, who's doing what slide on Waiting for Columbus?

Frank Sellin
============
"Billy got so sad, dejected,
 pulled on his pants and started to run
 Runnin' down the street yellin'
 at the top of his lung...
 There's a fat man in the bathtub
 With the blues, I hear him moan..."
       --Feat, "Fat Man in the Bathtub"
============
From: dhr@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Dave Robinson)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: Re: Deep Purple
Date: 19 Nov 92 10:13:24 GMT
Organization: ICL Bracknell, UK

In article <1992Nov18.213803.2555@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn) writes:
>Well, I've definitely seen alot of my favorite "best" classic rock
>bands listed: Zep, Beatles, The Who, Floyd, etc...but what?...no
>mention of Deep Purple?  Come on, you guys..."Smoke On The Water" may
>have got played into the ground, but these guys have to be in alot of
>peoples top ten classic bands...after all, "Machine Head" alone had not
>only "SotW", but "Space Truckin'", "Lazy", & "Highway Star"..."My Woman
>From To-kay-o" is classic as is "Hush".  Although later versions of DP
>were cool (David Coverdale etal), my favorite line-up was Ian Gillan,
>Ritchie Blackmore, John Lord, Roger Glover and Ian Paice.  This line-up
>was reborn on "Perfect Strangers", IMHO a pretty damn good album. One
>early album they did which is excellent but relatively unknown to many
>classic rock fans is Deep Purple In Rock...the boys really kick ass on
>"Speed King" and Ian Gillan's vocals on "Child In Time" are nothing
>short of spectacular!  Any other Purple fans out there (and I don't
>mean the Vikings)?
>
Absolutely ! And, while I would agree with you about the 'MarkII' line-up,
both 'Burn' and 'Stormbringer' were excellent albums, and even 'Come Taste the
Band' with Tommy Bolin replacing Richie on guitar has its good moments.

However, back to 'MarkII', I recently bought 'Made in Japan' on CD - I couldn't
believe how well it had stood the test of time ( 20 years old this year ).

It really must stand up as one of the greatest live albums of all time !

Finally, as you say, 'In Rock' maybe relatively unknown to many 'classic rock'
fans, but I think that is even more true of 'Fireball'. Slightly different
to other Purple albums (IMHO), but well worth a listen ( "No, No, No" should
be one of the classic tracks of *all* Purple albums - however, I've heard that
the track listing for Fireball is different in the States from the UK version.
Perhaps 'No, No, No' is the one missing ? ).

Dave
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Tel: (+44) 344 481000 x5441	ITN: 7263 5441  Fax: (+44) 344 868889
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From: jswartz@mbunix.mitre.org (Swartz)
Subject: Re: the Offten over looked BOC
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:48:42 GMT

In article <BxtnKH.Hqv@javelin.sim.es.com> wkirkpat@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>MY fav Classic Band is the undergroud Blue Oster Cult
>and I hope There are some others reading this group.
>yes,yes, I know there is a BOC sub-group but all thay do
>is (or most of what thay do.)Talk about hawkwind.
>and that is fine,but I have never heard there music.
>And fail to see the hawkwind -  BOC conection.(exept that thay worked
>with some of the same writers on a project or two)
>Let me know if I am Wrong,and I look foward to many a BOC Thred
>
>

Ah yes, one of the bands that got me into rock and roll and heavy metal.

I have all their albums on CD, including the "Bad Channels" soundtrack.  I
understand that they will be releasing a new album sometime soon.  

Anyone from the BOC list out there who can tell us what's up with BOC?  I
also was a subscriber, but had to cancel since 95% of the 20-60 messages a
day that I got were about Hawkwind.

John


-- 
--JOHN A. SWARTZ---The MITRE Corporation---Bedford, Massachusetts--
   "Just call me Desdinova - I'm sure to be the lucky one
   when destiny assigns wisdom - known to me, this starry wisdom . . .
   I am the one you warned me of"                     Blue Oyster Cult
From: 5g72wheelerj@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: Re: How about Def Leppard !!
Date: 20 Nov 1992 22:40:48 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 5g72wheelerj@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsa.csd.mu.edu

In article <Bxz5K7.9Cn@news.iastate.edu>, dmfriend@iastate.edu (shank s. shank) writes:>
>>I don't think I've noticed mention of Def Leppard yet. They do classify as
>>classic rock, don't they ? 


TO WHICH THERE WAS THE RESPONSE:



>they might have used to be, but they certainly suck now.  make love like a
>man???  duh....>
>>AloK
>>---
>>ALOK MATHUR
>>Office :       Res : (216) 791-1261
>>(216) 368-8871 Email amathur@alpha.ces.cwru.edu
>>(216) 368-5507       amathur@thunder.eeap.cwr       


THIS IS A VOTE OF AGREEMENT WITH THE RESPONSE.  I GIVE DEF LEPPARD THE GRAND
PRIZE IN:

(1) MOST OVER-PRODUCED, KEYBOARD/SYNTH DRIVEN, PARODY OF ROCK
(2) MOST SUCK-UP-TO-THE-PRE-TEEN-GUYS SUBSTANCELESS LYRICS
(3) MOST INNOVATIVE MISSPELLING OF TWO WORDS IN THE SERVICE OF A MONIKER

". . .ever needed someone so bad?"
Paula Abdul should cover that one . . .



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