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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Superman cartoons on LD
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:10:32 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <1992Apr15.121323.21452@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne) writes:
> 
> In a previous article, andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek) says:
> 
> >In article <1992Apr14.200802.9408@nic.unh.edu> tcw@kepler.unh.edu (Timothy  
> >C Webb) writes:
> >>    I was just looking through my Columbia House Laser Disc Club (sorry,  
> >CHLDC)
> >> catalog and noticed a 60 minute laserdisc of Superman cartoons. Are  
> >these the
> >> old Max Fleisher cartoons? If anyone knows, please fill me in.
> >
> >A friend of mine has just such a disk, and it's beautiful. I would assume  
> >the Columbia House disc is the same.
> 
> I wouldn't assume that.  If the Columbia disc is 60 minutes, then it
> woudn't include all the cartoons as the VHS tape I have of all of them
> lasts more than two hours.

There is a two-LD set put out by Image: "THE SUPERMAN CARTOONS OF MAX & DAVE
FLEISCHER".  It has all 17 Superman cartoons done by the Fleischers in
1941-43, plus SNAFUPERMAN, a parody of the Fleischer cartoons done by
Warner Brothers for the US Army.  It's closer to 90 minutes.

The quality of the cartoons is as good as it gets.  Unfortunately, it is
not top-of-the-line.  Some of the cartoons had audio problems (like THE
BULLETEERS), and some had less than optimal prints (like TERROR ON THE
MIDWAY and THE MUMMY STRIKES), but overall the collection is very good.

A final note:  these cartoons are now in the public domain.  Anyone could
go and make an LD of Superman Cartoons.  Maybe that explains the 60-minute
Superman LD.  Then again, they would have to edit/omit some of the cartoons
to fit them in 60 minutes.

Jayembee did an excellent review of the disk some time ago.  I have it in my
other account, so I can't post it right now.
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From: davest@sequent.com (David C. Stewart)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Is ABYSS really 140 minutes long?
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:17:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Apr7.001736.29261
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.


	I saw a listing for "The Abyss" in an LD catalog which states
that it is 140 minutes long, but only has 2 sides.  How does this work?
I thought the limit on CLV was 60 minutes per side!

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Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
From: hofbauer@csri.toronto.edu (John Hofbauer)
Subject: Dr. Strangelove framing
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Distribution: na
Date: 12 Apr 92 02:57:53 GMT

>> The Criterion edition of DR. STRANGEGLOVE will be shown in a mixture of
>> aspect ratios (academy and 1.66:1), as per Kubrick's instructions.  Does
>> anyone know if this is going to be CAV all the way through, or a CLV/CAV
>> combo? 

According to Criterion's catalogue/price list it's all CAV.  For a 93 minute
film there seems no real reason to skimp and make it a CLV/CAV combo.

>  Does anyone know why Kubrick wanted it done this way?  I also read that he
>  insisted that The Shining be pan&scan?  Why in the world would he insist
>  this????!!!!

Don't know about The Shining but if Dr. Strangelove was shot in 1.66:1 then
the letterboxing would have been quite minimal anyway, so maybe Kubrick
decided that the information loss at the sides was non-existent in most
scenes.  Recall that Robert Harris, the restorer of Lawrence of Arabia,
wanted to do an exact letterbox on that film, but David Lean overruled him.
Lean said to take the "widest significant scene" (where O'Toole first
meets Omar Sharif at the well) and frame it properly.  This means the
sides of LofA are slightly clipped, but who cares.  Anyway, the only scenes
in Dr. Strangelove that really need letterboxing are the wide shots of
the War Room.

> I was in one of the LA post houses about 6 years ago when they had just
> finished transferring all Kubrick's films for what was to be the
> definitive video version - these were to be both nework/cable and home
> video.
>
> Kubrick had spent several months going over these films with his
> assistant, and made notes down to the frame level as to what he wanted.
> Then the assistant work with those doing the transfer.  This took place
> over a considerable length of time.  Even though he may not like the
> pan and scan, he did put in considerable effort to ensure they were the
> way he liked them - so we can't say he was non-involved.

A couple of years ago I read that Kubrick was transferring Dr. Strangelove
frame-by-frame from his personal print using his trusty NIKON (he was a
still photographer in his youth) because the camera negative was in poor
shape and no acceptable prints were available.  I'm a believer in
letterboxing but I'll accept the director's choice of presentation.
I'm sure Kubrick is going to agonize over each frame.  

I only have one other remark to make... I just want the disk out the
door so I CAN BUY ONE!!!!!
From: Mike_Quigley@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Quigley)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: New Releases
Date: 15 Apr 92 01:56:23 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

The latest Sight & Sound catalog says that Excalibur is not only Letterboxed
(spherical Panavision?) but it has "surround sound". Is this Dolby Surround, or
did the original release have some kind of magnetic stereo? There seems to be a
boo-boo with the listing for the Right Stuff, it says the ratio is 2.35:1
suggesting anamorphic Panavision, but according to Carr & Hayes it was
spherical Panavision (I don't recall it as being so wide when I saw it in the
movie theatre).
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From: sandell@chowning.CNMAT.Berkeley.EDU (Gregory J. Sandell)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Looking for "Captain Sinbad"
Date: 14 Apr 1992 02:07:19 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: chowning.cnmat.berkeley.edu


"Captain Sinbad" was a wildly surreal fantasy/adventure movie I saw
as a kid in the mid- to late-60's, and I'd love to see it again.
A friend of mine said it played on the Disney Channel once, but he
has not seen it in any store.  Does anyone know if it has been 
released in video?

Thanks in advance; please reply via email.

--
Greg Sandell
Research Fellow, Center for New Music and Audio Technologies (CNMAT)
sandell@cnmat.cnmat.berkeley.edu or sandell@garnet.berkeley.edu
From: Mike_Quigley@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Quigley)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Fatal Attraction LBX LD
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:00:54 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

> David O. Dodge writes:
> 
> Msg-ID: <1992Apr7.064831.9297@wam.umd.edu>
> Posted: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 06:48:31
> 
> Org.  : Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
> 
> The ONLY Paramount disc I have ever seen with chapter marks is the new
> "Apocalpyse Now". I was amazed to actually see chapters listed for this
> thing, since Paramount has a long history of never including chapter stops
> for some reason.


Obviously you've never seen either of the 3 Indiana Jones movies (they are
Paramount, aren't they?).
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Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
From: ken@batman.austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach)
Subject: Re: Dealing with Laser Perceptions...
Reply-To: ken@batman.austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach)
Organization: IBM Austin, TX
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 15:25:39 GMT

pearl@remus.rutgers.edu (Starbuck) posts:

#I told him that I felt that LP gave the impression of not caring about
#their mail-order customers.  Although I did feel better after having
#talked to him and that he did let me know the status of my order, the
#fact of the matter is that I have been waiting for the disks for
#sometime and if they went out of print or were never pressed, a simple
#postcard from them letting me know the status of the order would be
#nice.(I have spent thousands from them over the years.)  These little
#things do mean a lot to customers.  But I am still glad he called me.
#In my opinion, the biggest problem with LP has been their lack of
#communication with their customers but if the phone call I got last night
#is any indication, they are working on that as well. Let's hope so! 


I think this is what I meant when I originally started this thread.
It makes things seem kind of shady when you call and they say, "No,
check back in two weeks. It should be here then." When you hear this
enough, it reminds you of "The check's in the mail" etc.

If they're not going to be able to fill an order, I'd appreciate
knowing that a disc is out of print so I won't run to the door
every time I hear the UPS truck. Especially since they told me
that they could get the disc in question, even though I've heard
from others that it is out of print since placing my order. The
lack of concern and rudeness on the phone when I called them to
check my order makes me wonder if they didn't also lie about the
disc's availability.

I plan to call them this week and see what the deal is (it's
been 2 weeks, ya know...).


THIS POSTING DOES NOT REPRESENT THE OPINIONS OF MY EMPLOYERS.
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Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Subject: Re: New Release Info (and a question) from the April LaserDisc Newsletter
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1992 14:14:34 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.212533.9716@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov> jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke) writes:
>In article <1992Apr5.033432.27498@tc.fluke.COM>, moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer) writes:
>> 
>>  *  The Criterion edition of DR. STRANGEGLOVE will be shown in a mixture of
>>     aspect ratios (accademy and 1.66:1), as per Kubric's instructions.  Does
>>     anyone know if this is going to be CAV all the way through, or a CLV/CAV
>>     combo? 

>Does anyone know why Kubrick wanted it done this way?  I also read that he
>insisted that The Shining be pan&scan?  Why in the world would he insist
>this????!!!!

Directors are not the perfect, god-like creatures we viewers sometimes
seem to think. Some of the best of them don't understand home-video and
especially laser disc.  I think we could begin to compile a list of
directors who should not be allowed near the mastering for laser disc.
At the top of the list I would put Kubrick and Friedkin, who also doesn't
believe in letterbox (EXORCIST, FRENCH CONNECTION, SORCERER).  

-- 
BILL CRUCE, NE OHIO COLL OF MEDICINE----INTERNET: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu 
        Neurobiology Dept., P.O. Box 95, Rootstown, OH 44272
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                     doesn't happen at once."
From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The fox so cunning and free)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Letterboxed edition of M*A*S*H available?
Date: 10 Apr 92 06:53:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <1992Apr09.212517.25029@sco.COM>, davidv@sco.COM (Uncle David) writes...

} well, one of my favorite films/tv series is M*A*S*H. so i ordered it from
} Columbia House. what i got was a rather bad transfer of it:  [...]
} in addition, the movie wasn't letterboxed, and i know the film was done
} in Panavision (says so in the opening credits). now, i don't know what
} possesed me to order the film knowing that it probably wasn't letterboxed,
} or had a digital soundtrack, but we all make mistakes (i thought the
} desciption in the catalogue said LBX and digital stereo, otherwise i
} probably wouldn't have ordered it). judging by the lack of CX encoding,
} and lack of digital whatsoever, it looks like they did the transfer
} at least 10 years ago. ick.

} what i want to find is a letterboxed transfer of the movie, if at all
} possible. is there a japanese import of the movie? is Criterion planning
} a release?

No, Criterion isn't planning a release. As far as I can tell, they've
never done anything the rights to which are held by 20th Century-Fox.

At any rate, Fox has done a letterboxed edition of M*A*S*H within the
last six months or so (so it probably has digital sound as well). The
older p&s edition was likely still in stock, which is probably why
Columbia House had it available. Whether CH offers the letterboxed
edition, I don't know, but it *does* exist.

-- 

	"Buster, this trip downriver has been truly special.
	 Downright Twainian in a Hitchcockian sort of way."


--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The fox so cunning and free)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: New Release Info (and a question) from the April LaserDisc Newsletter
Date: 8 Apr 92 06:03:29 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <1992Apr6.212533.9716@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov>, jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke) writes...

} Does anyone know why Kubrick wanted it done this way?  I also read that he
} insisted that The Shining be pan&scan?  Why in the world would he insist
} this????!!!!

THE SHINING is *not* pan-&-scan. It was simply a full-screen transfer of
a film that was soft-matted for the theater.

In article <1992Apr07.141434.20562@uhura.neoucom.edu>, wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce) writes...

} Directors are not the perfect, god-like creatures we viewers sometimes
} seem to think. Some of the best of them don't understand home-video and
} especially laser disc.  I think we could begin to compile a list of
} directors who should not be allowed near the mastering for laser disc.
} At the top of the list I would put Kubrick and Friedkin, who also doesn't
} believe in letterbox (EXORCIST, FRENCH CONNECTION, SORCERER).  

Sorry, Bill, but this time I disagree. While not trying to deify any
directors, I don't think this is necessarily a question of a director
not understanding home-video and/or laserdisc. I think Kubrick does.
That he's supervised some his film-to-tape transfers in letterbox --
2001, BARRY LYNDON, and A CLOCKWORK ORANGE (though mildly in this last
instance) -- and others in full-screen format -- THE SHINING, FULL METAL
JACKET, and Criterion's forthcoming edition of LOLITA, as opposed to
MGM/UA's matted edition -- I think it can be argued that he approaches
each film with an eye to what he thinks is better for the particular
film in question, rather than just blindly pushing a particular format.
For all we know, Kubrick might've wanted these latter films in Academy
Ratio, and composed them so that not too much significant information
would be lost when they were matted for the theater, just as many
directors have composed their films so that nothing significant would
be lost when they were cropped for television.

Keep in mind that those of us who support letterboxing do so because we
feel that it displays the film the way the director wanted it. If the
director decides that for video, he wants it transferred full screen,
then why should we second-guess that?

-- 

	"Buster, this trip downriver has been truly special.
	 Downright Twainian in a Hitchcockian sort of way."


--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
From: lanniet@pongo.TEKTRONIX.COM (Lannie Tierney;685-2848;60-444)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Star Trek IV LD (Director's Series)
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:29:00 GMT
Reply-To: lanniet@orca.WV.tek.com
Followup-To: rec.video.releases
Organization: WV


  Hi.  Has anyone picked up the Star Trek IV Director's Series LD?

  Is it a good transfer?  Is there any extra footage?  Are there (dare
  I ask) chapter stops?  Is it worth dishing out $50 if I already have
  the widescreen edition?

  Any help is appreciated.

  (Sorry if this has already been discussed - I've been away).

  Thanks.


  Lannie

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Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (K. Khan)
Subject: Re: Heavy Metal - Release?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:11:19 GMT


In article <1992Apr6.203228.28650@col.hp.com> smb@col.hp.com (Sam Bauer) writes:
>I have been waiting for Heavy Meatal to come out on disk for years.  I heard that 
>some legal issues have kept it back.  I heard that Showtime (or was it Cinemax)
>will be airing it this month.  Does this mean that the legal problems are now
>ironed out?  Does anyone know if it will be released on any format soon?  If 
>you have any info, please post.

Cinemax has been showing HM periodically for several years. Apparently
the legal problems which prevented a home video release (either tape or
disc) are still there, so I wouldn't hold my breath for a LD release
anytime soon.
From: gt0266d@prism.gatech.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Akira LD
Summary: Its in Japanese...
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:34:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I recently purchased Akira on laserdisc from a Tower records/video in
California.  I thought that it was in english since the majority of the
writing on the cover was in english.

When I played it, the movie was in Japanese...

I am wondering if there is an english version of the movie.

The particulars on Akira:
	Akira
	SF070-1550
	T4988 102 15508 7

Thanks for the help.

Binh Dao

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          dao@eecom.gatech.edu
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From: rehrauer@apollo.hp.com (Steve Rehrauer)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: New Release Info (and a question) from the April LaserDisc Newsletter
Keywords: LDN laserdisc
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:50:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: apollo.1992Apr6.135036.13207
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1992Apr5.181145.29295@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty) writes:
>Here's what the latest ADVANCE COMICS had to say about it:
>
>	CARTOONS FOR BIG KIDS
>	Leonard Maltin hosts a collection of classic cartoons which prove
>	once and for all that America's great heritage of animation is
>	anything but kid stuff.  Included are "King-Size Canary", "Red Hot
>	Riding Hood", "The Great Piggy Bank Robbery", and more.  44 minutes.
>	Suggested Retail Price:  $24.95.
>
>Well, I recognized "Red Hot Riding Hood" as an MGM cartoon,
>definitely not Looney Tunes/Warner Brothers.  They play this on TNT every
>so often; Red is a nightclub singer who does a rather hot "Oh Wolfy" number,
>while "Wolfy" goes gaga, Tex Avery style.

Probably because it _is_ a Tex Avery. :-)  The disc TEX AVERY'S SCREWBALL
CLASSICS contains this and other gems.  The sequel collection, ALL THIS AND
TEX AVERY TOO, contains "King Size Canary".  Great stuff!  I'm a bit
surprised to see this material showing up in a Warner's collection...
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 Even WE wouldn't eat THAT!"               | H.P. Systems Technology Division
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From: rjn@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 17:16:38 GMT
Subject: Re: Classic LD's
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases

In rec.video.releases, lmlidsky@athena.mit.edu (Lawrence M Lidsky) writes:

> Can anyone supply any information with respect to the
> quality of the presently available pressings of:
> 
> a) THE MALTESE FALCON

The current LD edition is MGM ML101546 (reportedly CLV, Mono CX, $34.98
list) replacing CBS/Fox 4530-80 (now out of print).  I picked up a copy of
4530-80 cheaply a couple of years ago, and have yet to watch it all the way
through.  As I recall, the transfer was average.  The disc (CLV) was pressed
by PVI, analog sound only (no CX) and no chapter marks.

> b) THINGS TO COME.

As far as I know, this has never been released on domestic LD, and I am not
aware of any Japanese import editions (although there may be one).

Regards,                                              Hewlett-Packard
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                UUCP: [hplabs|hpfcse]!hpfcrjn!rjn     Ft Collins CO 80525-9599

This article represents only the opinion[s] of its author, and is not an
official or unofficial position of, or statement by, the Hewlett-Packard
Company.  The text is provided for informational purposes only.  It is
supplied without warranty of any kind.
From: jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: New Release Info (and a question) from the April LaserDisc Newsletter
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:16:18 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center

In article <1992Apr9.063239.27909@engage.pko.dec.com>, boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The fox so cunning and free) writes:
> 
> } Both techinques are less then acceptable in my book. In both cases you
> } aren't seeing the film the way it was intended to be seen.
> 
> And who better to judge how the film was "intended| to be seen than the
> director?  And if that director feels that opening the matte for a video
> release is how he wants it, then isn't that how it's "intended" to be
> seen?
> 

As Bill Cruce pointed out, the director is hardly the only person that is
involved in creating a films look and feel.  Also, people change with time
and directors are people too!  Although Kubricks current viewpoint on how
he would make the film if he redid it today is interesting, what I want
to see is the way it WAS made.

Steve
From: jpb@calmasd.Prime.COM (Jan Bielawski)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: New Release Info (and a question) from the April LaserDisc Newsletter
Keywords: LDN laserdisc
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:49:18 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Computervision, San Diego, CA

In article <1992Apr5.033432.27498@tc.fluke.COM> moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer) writes:
<
< *  The Criterion edition of DR. STRANGEGLOVE will be shown in a mixture of
<    aspect ratios (accademy and 1.66:1), as per Kubric's instructions.  

	Kubrick always compromises his video releases that way, even 2001
is not full frame.  I found the varying aspect ratios of Clockwork Orange
disconcerting.  And now this.  I guess being a good director is no replacement
for wisdom.

	Jan Bielawski
	Computervision R&D, San Diego
	jpb@calmasd.prime.com