HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: SWAP size for 20MB IIci?
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 20:12:14 GMT

I ramble:

>tody@noao.edu (Doug Tody) writes:

>>This is what I thought too, but swap appears to work differently under A/UX
>>than most UNIX systems.  On most UNIX systems I have seen swap space is
>>allocated when virtual memory is allocated to a process; every time you run
>>a process or do a malloc in the process you see the available swap space
>>decrease.  On A/UX however, if you can believe swap -l, NO swap space is
>>used until the total virtual memory usage exceeds the physical memory
>>available.  Hence if you have vast amounts of physical memory, little or no
>>swap is used.

>One must recall that A/UX (as well as other "newer" :) Unices) perform both
>swapping and paging... 

And one should also recall that the activity of vhand can be adjusted by
knowledgable use of 'kconfig'... :)
-- 
    Jim Jagielski               | "It is not I who am crazy...
    jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov   |  it is I who am MAD!"
    NASA/GSFC, Code 734.4       |
    Greenbelt, MD 20771         |            - Ren
From: funches@plains (Ariel Funches)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Getting into A/UX
Date: 4 Jan 93 17:45:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.C0CBz2.Inv
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network
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Hello there everyone.  Hopefully ya'll can help me out here.  I am
thinking about getting a Mac with A/UX.  What would be a _decent_ machine.
 I was thinking along the lines of a IIci since they are getting to be
cheaper.  I already have a Q700.  Any suggestions?

Arile Funches
Computer Engineering
North Dakota State University
funches@plains.nodak.edu
-Home of The Thundering Herd-
From: Mike_Peters@vos.stratus.com (Mike Peters)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Next 20MB question...
Followup-To: comp.unix.aux
Date: 9 Jan 1993 04:39:55 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: greer.az.stratus.com

Now that I have 20MB, increased NBUF to 2000 (per the FAQ) and have decided
to leave the swap space alone (per the discussion in this group), what are
the performance ramifications of increasing the amount of memory available
to System 7?  

Will A/UX performance decrease (increased paging, or ?) by letting the
MacOS have access to all 20MB or would overall performance be better by
limiting MacOS memory?

Also, what effect does the MacOS disk cache setting (memory CDEV) have
under A/UX?  I currently have it set to 1024 which is the same setting I
use when running System 7 without A/UX.

TIA,

Mike

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From: yaosenko@acsu.buffalo.edu (Yaosen Ko)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Can't see AppleSingle files with Finder
Date: 12 Jan 93 02:12:57 GMT
Organization: UB

Hi,

I grabbed some .HQX files from the Net and did this:

     fcnvt -i hex -s orig.filename.hqx new.filename

Well, some new files show up under Finder but some don't.  What gives?

Thanx for any info.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: ron@rivm.nl (Ron Roozendaal)
Subject: ICMP packets broadcasted
Followup-To: comp.unix.aux
Reply-To: ron@rivm.nl
Organization: RIVM
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:55:18 GMT

Hi all,

If any packet from any user to any other computer passes my Mac and appears to
have an invalied address, my mac (A/UX 3.0) answers by sending an ICMP message
: host unreachable, port also.

Can this be switched off?


Ron

____________
  Ron Roozendaal (ron@rivm.nl)
  Senior Consultant
  National Institute on Public Health and Environmental Protection (RIVM)
  Informatics Service Centre
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  Tel. ++31 30 742790, Fax. ++31 30 282 316
 
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: jrowney@arco.com
Subject: A/UX 3.0 Install from NEC drive - NOT!
Organization: ARCO Exp. and Prod. Tech.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:39:22 GMT

 Am I right in assuming that I will not be able to install A/UX 3.0 from an NEC
CD-ROM drive?

John


jrowney@arco.com
From: ron@afsg.apple.com (Ron Flax)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: CSLIP and MacTCP problem resolved!
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:48:46 GMT
Followup-To: comp.unix.aux
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <sdorner-070193145014@dorner.slip.uiuc.edu>,
sdorner@qualcomm.com (Steve Dorner) wrote:
> 
> The patches work fine for me, too, with one caveat.  The mac emulation dies
> if you start a MacTCP application on the patched system when the SLIP
> connection isn't up.  I dunno if it applies to all MacTCP apps or some
> subset; given the time it takes to get logged in again, I'm not anxious to
> find out.

That's funny, I have not seen this happen.  I have a machine at home that
is connected to the office via SLIP and the link goes down all the time.
(Noisy phone lines, I suspect...)  I usually have Eudora checking my
mailbox at the office about every 10 minutes or so and I have not seen this
crash the Mac environment.   Now, perhaps your scenario is that you are
starting up a new MacTCP application that tries to initialize a socket and
that causes the crash.. I don't know.. 

If anyone else sees this, please let me know the exact circumstances so
that I can track it down and fix it if that's possible.

--
Ron Flax
ron@afsg.apple.com
Apple Computer, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: Syquest drives and Fix Error Page
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 03:27:12 GMT

jrowney@arco.com writes:

> Hi,

>I am currently attempting to use the Fix Error Page software discussed in the
>FAQ list with a 44mb Syquest removable cartridge drive.  The software appears
>to succesfully fix the 44mb disk, i.e., it says it has done so.  However, if I
>then eject the disk, re-insert it and run Fix Error Page again, it tells me
>that the disk needs fixing again! Thus,

>1) am I doing something wrong?
>2) is this what is supposed to happen?
>3) is this anything to do with the disk formatting software?
>   (MicroTech R45 Formatter, ver 3.22)

Hmmm... sounds like one of two things are happening (either one is wrong :)

	1. Fix Error Page isn't working right.
	2. The disks driver, for some reason, is resetting the Mode Page
	   for these bits...
-- 
    Jim Jagielski               | "It is not I who am crazy...
    jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov   |  it is I who am MAD!"
    NASA/GSFC, Code 734.4       |
    Greenbelt, MD 20771         |            - Ren
From: rodgrim@imv.aau.dk (Lars Andersen)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: Waisserver available?
Date: 12 Jan 93 13:22:30 GMT
Organization: Information and Mediascience Aarhus University
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7788529CC0112F7@unicorn.imv.aau.dk>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 12 Jan 93 14:24:41 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d16

Subject: Waisserver available? Follow up
From: Lars Andersen, rodgrim@imv.aau.dk
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 12:27:53 GMT

I asked if a waisserver was available and I found that indeed 
there was.

I got 1 reply, but that was sufficient. I got the server source,
and I have made it publicly available by anon ftp from imv.aau.dk 
in /pub/AUX/aux-waisserver.tar.Z

I have tested it, and it seems to run ok. But Reuven who made the
port says that there are some stability problems like crashes with
no apparent reason except that it seems that crashes are more fre-
quent when one is getting many files fast.

Lars Andersen, Email: rodgrim@imv.aau.dk
Information and Mediascience University of Aarhus, DENMARK
From: dstotler@suntsu.pppl.gov (Daren Stotler)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Compatibility of NOW Utilities 3.0
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:48:54 GMT
Reply-To: dstotler@theory.pppl.gov (Daren Stotler)
Distribution: comp.unix.aux
Organization: Princeton University, Plasma Physics Laboratory


  I started out using my A/UX 3.0 system with a number of the NOW
Utilities 3.0. The FAQ indicates that all but Super Boomerang should 
work. There are apparently a few more compatibility problems. I would
like to hear about different experiences from others:

1) If I open the Desk Picture Control Panel, I can place a startup screen 
   manually. However, Desk Picture will not bring it up automatically upon
   login. Instead, a blank screen with a rather cryptic error message is
   produced. 

2) In association with one or more of the other utilities (the ones I've
   tried are: StartUp Manager, WYSIWYG Menus, NowSave, MultiMaster,
   and AlarmsClock), the system seems to run into some limit on the
   number (or more likely the total heap size) of extensions that are
   loaded at login. Namely, if I include all of these utilities along with
   my others (e.g., Gatekeeper, FMBackup, ATM, After Dark) in my personal
   System Folder, the last one (which is usually ATM) or two will not 
   be loaded. My first suspect was StartUp Manager. Initially, removing it
   appeared to solve the problem. However, the trouble occurred again today.
   This time I eliminated MultiMaster (and CEToolbox; using AppleMenuItems
   instead) and have again gotten things working properly. But, this may
   just mean that I'm once again well below the size limit. Further
   experimentation would be required to discern whether not the limit
   has indeed been removed. Has anyone else observed this behavior?

                      Thanks,
                        Daren Stotler
                        dstotler@theory.pppl.gov
From: briggs@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Allen `drug-happy hippy-freak' Briggs)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: man pages for gcc 2.3.1
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:48:59 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

In article <1s#@byu.edu> parkj@bones.et.byu.edu (John R. Park) writes:
>cccp.1.z
>g++.1.z
>gcc.1.z

This is probably from pack.  Try using pcat or unpack (or man pack ;-)

I think the new GNU zip (in beta?) is using .z extensions, too, so
things might get more interesting if that becomes popular.

-allen
-- 
Allen Briggs%%%%%%%%%%%% Down by the Sally Gardens, my love and I did meet//
briggs@csugrad.cs.vt.edu She bid me to take love easy as the leaves grow on
Computer Science%%%%%%%% the trees/But I being young and foolish with her
Virginia Tech%%%%%%%%%%% would not agree ...
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: tody@noao.edu (Doug Tody)
Subject: Re: SunDump and A/UX's dump.bsd (actually tar)
Reply-To: tody@noao.edu
Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 16:59:00 GMT

In article <145103@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV>, hatch@conan.llnl.gov (Jeff Hatch) writes:
> I have tried several times take a tape written by Sun OS's 'tar' program 
> and read it back with 'tar' on A/UX ... and each time have failed.  Upon 
> talking about it with the folks at Apple Techinal Answerline who didn't 
> seem to have a clue, I have come to believe that the 'tc' device driver 
> that A/UX uses is incompatible with the 'rst'  driver used in Sun OS 
> probably due to Apple's effort to maintain block mode compatibility with 
> their old and lame 40 MB tape drive.

A/UX can read a tar file written on a Sun and vice versa, e.g. if you
transfer the tar file via a network or uucp transfer.  The problem you see
with tapes is most likely the 8K fixed size blocking used by the Apple tc
driver.  You might want to try Jim Jagielski's hacked version of the tc
driver, which supports 1K fixed size blocks (and maybe variable length
blocks) either of which can be generated on a Sun.  Also watch out for
compression if your drive supports it.

> A/UX's tar when used on HD floppy 
> disks is beautifully compatible with Sun's most likely due to compatible 
> floppy device drivers.

This is because floppy disk has fixed size 512 byte sectors, whether it is
read on a Sun or a Mac.  Tar just writes the tar file to the raw floppy
device.

> I suspect this observation holds true for the 
> issues with A/UX's dump.bsd/restore and Sun OS's dump/restore.

I think it is worse than that, the A/UX and SunOS dump/restore define
different, incompatible tape formats.

-- 
Doug Tody	National Optical Astronomy Observatories
tody@noao.edu   P.O. Box 26732, Tucson, Arizona, 85726
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: randy@caesar.iaf.uiowa.edu (randy frank)
Subject: Problems with lp and local printing...
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:50:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Iowa, Image Analysis Facility

Hello,
	I've got a MacIIcx running A/UX 3.0 which is being used as
an interface between a bunch of SGI UNIX boxes and a laserwriter IIg
on localtalk.  The UNIX boxes use 'lp' to send their files to my
mac and the mac sends the files on out to the laserwriter using the
chooser printer.  After a reboot of the Mac this works fine until
I print from a macOS application on the cx.  After that, the files get
to the Mac from the UNIX boxes, but the printer just sits there and
blinks its recieve light.  
For example:
(Reboot)
printing from caesar.iaf.uiowa.edu using lp through the mac works fine.
(I select a range of text in a command shell and select print selection...)
The selected range prints fine.
printing from caesar.iaf.uiowa.edu using lp causes the file to be moved
to the cx.  The laserwriter starts blinking (like it is receiving data)
but never quits.  I can still print from MacOS apps on the Mac, and 
eventially, the lp job disappears (lpstat -t).

	Any ideas as to where the problem might be?  We did not have the
problem under A/UX 2.0 and an LaserWriter NT.  It only appeared after one
or the other was upgraded(replaced). 

Thanks,

--
rjf.
Randy Frank, Engineer                       |  (319) 335-6712       
University of Iowa, Image Analysis Facility |  73 EMRB              
randy@tessa.iaf.uiowa.edu                   |  Iowa City, IA 52242  
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: gpb@gpb-mac (greg berryman )
Subject: Re: A mailx query
Organization: SPS
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:22:38 GMT

weinhous@castor.hahnemann.edu (Martin S. Weinhous Ph.D.) writes:
: I am running a reasonably "stock" A/UX 3.0 (under ksh) and would like
: to use some mail convenience features that I have been unable to
: locate under A/UX.
: 
: (0) Is mailx the "best" supplied interface to sendmail? If not, what
:     might do better?

Yes.... but get elm.  It is a vast improvement.  While you are at it, trash
sendmail and run smail instead.  It is also a much better program.

: 
: (1) Under mailx, can one implement the automatic use of .signature
:     and .rsignature? If so, how? (I'm able to use the ~a and ~A
:     mechanism, but would like the added convenience of the auto-
:     matic . files.)

No, use elm.

: (2) Under mailx, can one change the first-character-of-each-interpolated-
:     line to something other than [tab] (when using ~m in input mode)?
:     If so, how?

I don't think so.

: 
: (3) Under mailx, can one pass a "-v" to sendmail so that you can see
:     your messages' outgoing progress? If so, how? (I have tried to get
:     this to work by editing /usr/lib/mailx/mail.rc to read

I never got it to work either.

Greg.

--
My words, not Motorola's.   * ______ *
gpb@gpb-mac.sps.mot.com     * \ BI / * I will NOT ride in the back of the bus.
Greg Berryman (512)928-6014 *  \  /  *         SILENCE = DEATH
Motorola Austin, Texas, USA *   \/   *     First, be true to yourself.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: tody@noao.edu (Doug Tody)
Subject: Re: SWAP size for 20MB IIci?
Reply-To: tody@noao.edu
Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 17:30:34 GMT

In article <C0Jtzq.ELv@Novell.COM>, mceder@ithaca (Mike Cederholm) writes:
> Jim, 
> 
> the normal rul o\\\
> jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski) writes:
> : Mike_Peters@vos.stratus.com (Mike Peters) writes:
> : 
> : >I just upgraded my IIci to 20MB of RAM.  When I originally installed A/UX
> : >3.0, I used the default partition size for the SWAP area.  Should I
> : >increase it now that I have more memory?  If so, what should it be?  I've
> : >also increased NBUF to 2000.
> : 
> : Now that you have _more_ memory, chances are that you'll need _less_ swap
> : space. I'd stay where you are since it's a big pain to repartition
> : everything just to decrease the Swap size.

> Jim, 
> The normal rule of thumb for uxix is:
> 	swap >= 2 x memory
> 
> Your reasoning is correct that with more memory you should swap less often, 
> but why even hint that a person should reduce swap space afer increasing 
> memory in a unix machine?... Being a multi-user, multi-tasking system, with
> more memory available for processes, the chance of swapping can be greater
> because more processes are actually running.... In a properly tuned system
> the addition of more memory can truly require much greater swap spaces.

This is what I thought too, but swap appears to work differently under A/UX
than most UNIX systems.  On most UNIX systems I have seen swap space is
allocated when virtual memory is allocated to a process; every time you run
a process or do a malloc in the process you see the available swap space
decrease.  On A/UX however, if you can believe swap -l, NO swap space is
used until the total virtual memory usage exceeds the physical memory
available.  Hence if you have vast amounts of physical memory, little or no
swap is used.

-- 
Doug Tody	National Optical Astronomy Observatories
tody@noao.edu   P.O. Box 26732, Tucson, Arizona, 85726
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: ron@rivm.nl (Ron Roozendaal)
Subject: 'appleshare name already in use'
Reply-To: ron@rivm.nl
Organization: RIVM
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 11:37:33 GMT

Hio all,

Quit frequently, after another program crashing my system, I am logged out and
the login shell appears again. But after logging in, no APPLE-sharing is
possible, because the old name is still active on the network. No other
solution but restarting the machine I have found so far. Any clues?


Ron

____________
  Ron Roozendaal (ron@rivm.nl)
  Senior Consultant
  National Institute on Public Health and Environmental Protection (RIVM)
  Informatics Service Centre
  Postbox 1, 3720 BA Bilthoven, the Netherlands
  Tel. ++31 30 742790, Fax. ++31 30 282 316
From: stump1+@pitt.edu (Robert E Mitchell)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Pine
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:40:13 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: stump1@unixd2.cis.pitt.edu


	What is the latest version of Pine and where can I find it.
I worked with it a little the other day and really liked it.

Thanks in advance...



				Stump.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: dgaraffa@bigmac.mskcc.org (Dave Garaffa)
Subject: AUX Problem STRANGE!!! curses client
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 15:23:16 EST
Organization: Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center
Followup-To: comp.unix.aux

Well here's one for the unix wizards out there!!

I have a VERY strange proble with the curses client of gopher 1.1:

When I run as non-root (dgaraffa) everything is just fine!

BUT

When I run as root (or do a su from dgaraffa) the client will not respond
to cursor movement or 'capture' any of the single key commands.

Example:

up/down-arrows will NOT move the arrow  "-->" from one menu choice to
another
(instead it 'types the letter "A" next to the --> for UP and "B" for DOWN)
it looks like this when I hit the DOWN arrow 3 times and the UP arrow 3
times)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                    Internet Gopher Information Client v1.1

Root gopher server: bigmac.mskcc.org

 -->BBBAAAAbout-MSKCC-Gopher/
      2.  MSKCC-SKI-Net/

<blank lines removed to save space>

Press ? for Help, q to Quit, u to go up a menu                        Page:
1/1
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

and when I type "q" the bottom of the screen will NOT clear and display the
message "Really quit (y/n) ? y" instead a q will appear next to the -->
(but when I press RETURN it will quit!)


Now for the strangest part of the story:
----------------------------------------
EVERYTHING was working fine for EVERYONE until yesterday so the problem
can't
be with the gopher application (can it?).


What I have tried so far:
-------------------------
changing the default shell from sh to csh (for ROOT .. dgaraffa was always
csh)

replaced 'roots' prefs files with 'dgaraffas'

recompiled gopher (as root)

gone nuts tring to think of what I may have done yesterday to cause the
problem!


If you have any ideas I can try (and at this point I will try ANYTHING)
please respond to the group or E-Mail.

Thanks for your time!


Dave Garaffa
Manager Macintosh Information Center
Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center
1-212-639-3738
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: add@is.rice.edu (Arthur Darren Dunham)
Subject: Exabyte 8200s
Keywords: tape exabyte tc
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 06:22:01 GMT

Okay, I am having a COMPLETE lack of success trying to access an Exabyte
8200.  I have installed the new 3.12 tc drivers, but they do not seem to
help.  The testdrive program has never seemed to work, always generating
a 'Subscript out of range' error.  I've tried some example lines from
the manual like...
tar cbBf 16 278320 /dev/rmt/tc4 usr  (<- no error, but returns within seconds)
tar tvBf 16 /dev/rmt/tc4 (<- gives Tar: tape read error)

Commands make the tape whir, and the lights blink, but not much of
importance that I can see.  Am I doing anything wrong?  I would like to
get this working.  Any help would be appreciated.

In case it makes any difference, it is a IIci, Apple Cache card, 8Mb
physical, A/UX 3.0.

Many Thanks.

-- 
Darren Dunham                 		          add@is.rice.edu
MicroConsultant                       		  Rice University
(What is that? A small consultant?)	              Houston, TX
Any resemblance between real opinions and my post is coincidental
From: yaosenko@acsu.buffalo.edu (Yaosen Ko)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: Restoring root partition dumps
Date: 8 Jan 93 23:07:36 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1359@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov> jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski) writes:
>
>I think to do this right, you'd need to make the "backup" partition as a
>/usr-type file system (using 'dp')... When you need to boot up with it,
>use A/UX Startup's 'dp' to change it to 'Root&Usr' file system and change
>your "real" Root file system to something else (/usr-type)...
>

I use a dumb but straight forward method.

Grab a 40MB (yes, 40MB) old HD, install a very small set of A/UX onto
it. My setup is A/UX 3.0 with very small MacOS, Swap, AutoRecovery, and Root&Usr
partitions all stuffed onto this 40MB. As you can guess, I trimmed a lot
of stuff to accomplish it so that this installation can't do anything
but run tape backup/restore program. Remaining free space on / partition
is only a few hundred KB. :-)

Every time I need to restore the working "/" partition, just boot
A/UX from this HD and run tape restore program. Plain, simple, dirty &
quick...