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From: dmkasten@redorc.chi.il.us (Bowie Poag)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Computer Joke.
Date: 22 Jan 93 08:39:21 CST
Organization: Red Oracle Bbs/Network

In article <1993Jan11.185025.10942@hsr.no>, karl@hsr.no (Karl Martin Lund)
writes:
>What's the difference between a guy selling second hand cars and a guy
>selling computers?
>
>The guy selling second hand cars knows when he is lying.   (sp?)
>
>      __ -----------------------------------------------------------------
>     /// | Karl Martin Lund |   No DoD#    | Find no hope in nothing new |
>__  ///  |                  |              |  when I never had a dream   |
>\\\///   |   karl@hsr.no    | Honda VF750F |         come true      (ST) |
> \///    -----------------------------------------------------------------
>





Heres a computer joke:


IBM.



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        |o|              I think, therefore I Amiga.              |=|
        +-----------------------------------------------------------+
        | Douglas Michael Kasten (DMK) | Amiga 2000HD/5 with a tiny |
        |  dmkasten@redorc.chi.il.us   | little 21" Toshiba monitor.|
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From: cb599@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Robbins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Archie sites
Date: 25 Jan 1993 04:53:51 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Could someone post a lit of sites supporting archie?
I seem to lost the one posted earlier, and maybe instructions
although I THINK I remember how to scan with the prog command.
Thanks
--
From: ssurpeat@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk (Richard T Peat)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: NickPrefs Archive
Date: 27 Jan 93 11:28:45 GMT
Reply-To: ssurpeat@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., University of Reading

I downloaded the NickPrefs archive from a site in Denmark, got it home and
unarchived it. It extracted everything except for WBPicture, which failed
the CRC check.

Has anyone got a working copy they could send me?

(Replies by mail please)

Richard Peat

ssurpeat@uk.ac.rdg.susssys1
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: mashton@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Zaphod Beeblebrox)
Subject: Re: MakeLink
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:55:47 GMT

In article <alien.02sl@acheron.amigans.gen.nz> alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz (Ross Smith) writes:
>Does anybody know what MAKELINK is supposed to do?
>
>The AmigaDOS manual sez this:
>
Deleted
>
>That seemed clear enough to me, but it doesn't seem to work that way. I tried
>creating a file "Alpha", then a link to it called "Bravo", like this:
>
>   makelink bravo alpha
>
>When I do a dir, both files appear, and when I type them, Bravo now has the
>same text as Alpha. Looks OK so far.
>
>*But*, when I use an editor to change the text in Alpha, Bravo remains
>unchanged! As far as I can see, the "MakeLink" command isn't doing what it's
Are you sure you don't mean that when you change Bravo, Alpha remains the same?
This command makes a hard link to the file. Both files seem to contain the same
info but take up only one files worth of diskspace. If you edit the link however (or
write it in any way) it becomes a file in it's own right for safety reasons.

>
>What's going on?
>
>--
>...... Ross Smith (Wanganui, NZ) ...... alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz ......
>"I blame you for the moonlit sky and the dream that died with the Eagle's flight
>I blame you for the moonlit nights when I wonder why are the seas still dry
>Don't blame me, sleeping satellite"                              (Tasmin Archer)
>--
___
mashton@dcs.warwick.ac.uk
The best way not to be unhappy is not to have a word for it.

The opinions expressed are entirely those of myself and the little purple 
people that visit me from time to time.They are not those of my employer,
basically,because I haven't got one.
From: chrisg@cbmvax.commodore.com (Chris Green)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: WB2.1 install disk crashes
Date: 22 Jan 93 22:24:25 GMT
Reply-To: chrisg@cbmvax.commodore.com (Chris Green)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1993Jan5.123157.24363@walter.cray.com> aaw@cray.com writes:
>In article 23993@zds-oem.zds.com, easton@zds-oem.zds.com (Jeff Easton) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan4.105808.11661@walter.cray.com> aaw@cray.com writes:
>>>Has anyone besides me had this problem? I just installed the WB2.1 upgrade on my
>>>A3000 which still uses the "superkickstart" (non-ROM). I found that booting off the
>>>install disk (which is required to perform the installation) always crashed the
>>>machine with a software error. I eventually discovered that the SetPatch program
>>>on the install disk was the cause. After replacing it with the old 2.04 version of
>>>SetPatch I was able to complete the installation. The dealer who sold me the upgrade
>>>said they hadn't seen this problem before. Is there a newer version of the 2.04
>>>kickstart than the one I have (which came directly from C=)?
>>
>>  I have an A3000/16 with soft kicked ROM's.  I installed the 2.1 upgrade
>>right after Thanksgiving and it went smoothly.  I did exactly what you did,
>>booted the install disk.
>>
>>  How old is your A3000?  A wild guess is that if you have the older
>>"roms in a tower" version, the boot roms might be different than mine.
>>
>
>I suppose my A3000 is relatively old; I bought it back when they had the "power up"
>deal from the 2000/2500 to A3000. I haven't done much poking around inside it except
>to install some extra RAM, but since I most likely have the same 2.04 kickstart as
>everybody else I guess the boot ROM could be the culprit. I'm curious if anyone knows
>what the mysterious undocumented SetPatch does. I noticed that the 2.1 version is 
>considerably larger than the old one.
>

	Your problem is most likely that you have mixed static column ram with
non-static column-ram, a configuration which does not work. Such a configuration
will crash when the data cache is turned on, which setpatch does.
-- 
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|                  Commodore-Amiga          - uunet!cbmvax!chrisg       n
|My opinions are my own, and do not         - icantforgettheimpression  o
|necessarily represent those of my employer.- youmadeyouleftaholeinthe  r
|"A screaming comes across the sky..."      - backofmyhead              d
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From: jaker@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Jake Rose)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: A4000 with 68EC040?
Date: 28 Jan 93 20:17:27 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung) writes:

>>"A4000 models shipped with a 68040-level microprocessor on the
>>processor module may have the 68EC040 variation of the chip. The EC
>>chip omits the internal FPU and MMU present on the full 68040.
>>..."
>>it goes on to say that the full 68040 would have dramatic increases in
>>math operations over a 68EC040 68882 combination, and that the EC is
>>chip replacable with the 68040 for those who want to upgrade.

What the hell is this "EC" trip CBM's been on?  EC chips are no good for
development, they're no good for bloody anything except pretending to be
manufactured by Intel...

>>How do I tell if I've got an EC?  (can't open the box without voiding
>>warrantee). Showconfig and CPU programs say I've got a 68040/68882.
>>(looks kinda bad...though doesn't say 68EC040 explicitly) 
>Buddy, you got an 040.  If you don't believe me, try removing the heat-sink
>and look at the chip yourself.  So far Commodore (in USA, at least) has
>never sold an ec040 Amiga 4000.  The manual is wrong.

That's a relief, but still - they put an EC020 in the 1200, which was stupid,
they're going to put an EC030 in their 4000-030 - I'm willing to pay the
less than $10 difference they cost, honest!  Maybe CBM's trying to cling to
its reputation for building game machines?

>>thanks
>>mark
>>mark@killdeer.stanford.edu

>Yours Sincerely,
>Kelvin
>e-mail: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu
-- 
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Jake Rose              :: Zero Defects, n.: The result of shutting down a
jaker@csugrad.cs.vt.edu::                  production line.
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From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr. Peter Kittel, Commodore Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Fred Fish and no more fishes??
Date: 27 Jan 93 14:11:29 GMT
Organization: Commodore Germany

Reply-To: cbmehq!cbmger!peterk@cbmvax.commodore.com
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Distribution: 
Organization: Commodore Germany
Keywords: 

In article <C1HEtp.7zp@fishpond.uucp> fnf@fishpond.uucp (Fred Fish) writes:
 >
 >As it is right now, besides paying for the actual distribution
 >costs to send them their disks, the 41 paying subscribers are also funding
 >the development of new disks and paying other overhead costs, for the
 >remainder of all users worldwide.
 >
 >There is a big difference between handling 75-100 longterm regular subscribers,
 >and filling orders from thousands of random users for 10's of thousands of
 >disks every month.  

Do I understand correctly, that the best situation for you would be a number
of ca. 75-100 regular subscribers, but not thousands of them?

Then how about this: In your standard README on your disk you simply
publish the current number of subscribers. If there are still too few, then
you simply add a short comment like "need more". Thus everyone would be
informed whether they should contact you directly.

-- 
Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel  // E-Mail to \\  Only my personal opinions...
Commodore Frankfurt, Germany  \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk
Wer's nicht kann, soll's bleiben klopfen oder Steine lassen!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: newton@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Dale E Newton)
Subject: ftp list of Amiga CD-ROMS anywhere?
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 04:42:27 GMT

Does anyone know if there is a published list of current Amiga CD-ROMS
available through ftp somewhere on the net?

Please email.

Thanks.

************************************************************
*Dale E. Newton           newton@stolaf.edu                *  
*Blue Earth Ensemble					   *		
*718 Saint Olaf Ave.      507-645-6817                     *
*Northfield, MN 55057     ////////////////////////////     *  
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From: hamster@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: A4000 with 68EC040?
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:58:28 AEDT
Organization: Disorganized...

In article <1993Jan26.071724.2050@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> mark@killdeer.Stanford.EDU (Mark Hosang Yim) writes:

> "A4000 models shipped with a 68040-level microprocessor on the
> processor module may have the 68EC040 variation of the chip. The EC
> chip omits the internal FPU and MMU present on the full 68040.
>
> How do I tell if I've got an EC?  (can't open the box without voiding
> warrantee). Showconfig and CPU programs say I've got a 68040/68882.

The 68882 is your math co-processor, which is built into the chip. Don't
worry, you have a full 68040.

-- 
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      Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia  -  hamster@xymox.apana.org.au
    "The Looks Or The Lifestyle? I'll take the lifestyle. And the looks."
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: breese@monet.imada.ou.dk (Bjorn Reese)
Subject: Re: NEW AMIGA NEWSGROUP PROPOSAL
Organization: Dept. of Math. & Computer Science, Odense University, Denmark
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:54:24 GMT

In article <C17MAy.87F@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu  
(Sam Hulick) writes:
> 
> Very biff-like subject. :)  Anyway, how about:
> 
>   comp.sys.amiga.music
> 
> c.s.a.audio is too general.  That can be digitizers, programming
> waveforms, etc.  IMO, we definitely need c.s.a.music where people can
> announce new mods, talk about music programs, etc.!  So what do you say?
> If this gets enough votes, I'll take it to alt.config and then 'control'
> and get it created.

I'll vote against this newsgroup, because there doesn't seem to be
enough traffic in csa.audio to justify a new newsgroup. If csa.music
would become a reality, csa.audio would die out.

--

Bjorn Reese                    |     Email: breese@imada.ou.dk
Odense University, Denmark     |     Voice: +45 65 932 182 (private)
From: kevinm@ocf.berkeley.edu (Kevin Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: SetPatch for WB 1.3
Date: 26 Jan 1993 05:07:21 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tornado.berkeley.edu

What was the latest release of SetPatch for WB 1.3 machines?  I thought I had
the last one (version 1.34), but a friend of mine has version 1.38.


-- 
                              _
Kevin Miller            Amiga// UC Berkeley Physics/Astronomy Double Major
kevinm@ocf.berkeley.edu _500// "Why is there blue sky, why is there red
kevinm@teripin.com      \\ // sky, now's the time to ask the reason why.""
                         \X/              --Genesis,"Way of the World"
Disclaimer: If you find an opinion, kill it.  They are dangerous.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: donison@fraser.sfu.ca (Brad Donison)
Subject: 2.1 & translator
Keywords: translator.library
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:34:52 GMT

I just got 2.1 installed on my 2000 a week ago.  CBM has removed the
translator.library from the OS and I can not find any reference in the
manuals about its replacement!  So has the AmigaOS completely lost the
text to speach ability?  I have a few programs, such as Excellence! and
AmigaVision, which allow the Amiga to "talk back" to me.  I hope that
there is a replacement for the translator.library somewhere.  I tried
placing the 1.3 version library and it did no good at all.  Anyone have
any info on this???

Brad...

(*   ---------------------------------------------  *)
(*  Brad Donison     ETC programmer                 *)
(*  <     this space for rent!                      *)
(*        contact:  donison@sfu.ca                  *)
(*                  for more information!         > *)
From: cs64wag@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Jeremy Friesner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: WB Font?
Date: 22 Jan 93 07:40:51 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <2191@vall.dsv.su.se> matt-dah@dsv.su.se (Mattias Dahlberg) writes:
>What fonts are you guys using with a 640x400 (640x512) workbench?
>
>The default, topaz 8, looks good using 640x200 (640x256) but rather
>silly at the resolutions mentioned above. I've found that all fonts
>coming with the WB-disk look streched and tiny...


Hmm, I'm using "Mellow 15" for my icon labels, and topaz for
the other two, and it looks pretty good (IMHO, of course :))

Jeremy

-- 
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|3k!///  "If you never have the time, never get to see cloud 9,   |
\\\///  there's a place where you can wait, on cloud 8."  -FC     |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: mashton@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Zaphod Beeblebrox)
Subject: Re: Right border cut off on WB in SUPER72 overscan?
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 17:51:22 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.065151.16074@microsoft.com> iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy) writes:
>When I set the horizontal overscan on my Super72
>interlaced workbench beyond 832, the pixels
>beyond the 832 mark are cut off, invisible. My
>mouse can move over the cut off area and I can grab
>windows in it. I just can't see what's there.
>
>What's the deal?
>
>How do you have your AGA WB set up? I remember the Skip
>Sauls seemed to have a pretty big WB. How doeshe have it set up?
>Skip?
>
>Ian.
>
>
Do you have autoscroll set?
___
mashton@dcs.warwick.ac.uk
The best way not to be unhappy is not to have a word for it.

The opinions expressed are entirely those of myself and the little purple 
people that visit me from time to time.They are not those of my employer,
basically,because I haven't got one.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: cobra@coyote.datalog.com (Ken Thompson)
Subject: Re: Amiga E compiler (work ?)
Organization: Datalog Consulting, Tucson, AZ
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 16:42:36 GMT

aramsey@ugly.UVic.CA (Aaron  Ramsey) writes:

> In article <1j871fINN143@aludra.usc.edu> wdao@aludra.usc.edu (Walter Dao) wri
> >
> >There is a PD E_compiler for the amiga. It looks pretty good from the 

 
[ rest of article deleted... ]
 
Does anyone know if this has made it to a Fish disk?  I'm interested in 
this, but I have no FTP access from my site, and the only other way I can 
get it is through GEnie (if it ever makes it there...grrr...)
 

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From: brafman@hulaw1.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Quanum ELS hard drive Query
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:27:01 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

I need to get a second hard drive for my 3000, which has its original Quantum
52mb LPS.  I see a Quantum 85 mb ELS hard drive being advertised now.  Is this
from Quantums new line which replaces the LPS's?  Is this new drive as good as
my LPS? 

Thanks for the help.

- David
brafman@hulaw1.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: vmkiili@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Ville-Matti Kiili)
Subject: Boot problems on A3000
Organization: University of Helsinki
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 12:28:09 GMT


I have an old A3000 (softkicked one) and I have weird boot problems.
When I power up my machine, it won't load the kickstart, because 
it claims that wb_2.x: partition is "not a dos disk". Ok, I have
backupped my wb_2.x: partition to another partition, so that's no
problem. Then I insert some empty disk with boot block and use
'setcpu kickrom kickstart' command to load newer kickstart version. Well, 
after that my boot partition is working very well. This isn't
actually very surprising, but when I type 'setcpu romboot', the
machine loads the kickstart very well from my weird boot partition.
How is that possible?? It can't be hard disk spin-up problem, because
I can access the other partitions.
 

-- 
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  Ville-Matti Kiili                                // Only Amiga makes 
  vmkiili@cc.helsinki.fi                         \X/  it impossible... 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: 32bit versions of wb3 ??
From: major@biosci.uq.oz.au (Viktor Major)
Date: 25 Jan 93 11:40:37 AEST
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Distribution: world
Organization: Department of Biochemistry, U of QLD


> 
> Hmm..pardon me, but my 500 does not have a 32-bit processor, yet I can
> and have run WB3.0 on my machine.  Now, some of the programs that come with
> it will mot run, like MultiView, but WB3.0 WILL load on a non-32-bit processor.
> 
> --Chris
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Chris Mattingly -- Residing in a wonderful dorm at NCSU 
> Send all flames to: /dev/null
> Send all other stuff to: cmatting@nyx.cs.du.edu


		Excuse me if I am wrong, but isn't the MC68000 32 bit wide inside with a
16 bit data path. As I understand it, the code for MC68000 IS a 32 bit
code.
From: dmkasten@redorc.chi.il.us (Bowie Poag)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: A4000 or SGI for video
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:29:02 CST
Organization: Red Oracle Bbs/Network

In article <1993Jan18.004109.29688@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>,
mark@killdeer.Stanford.EDU (Mark Hosang Yim) writes:
>Hi,
>
>I'm thinking of getting an A4000 to do a 3d dynamic simulation of a
>high DOF robot.  Ultimately dumping to video.
>
>I've seen a few people say the A4000 is a viable option for people who
>can't afford an SGI machine.  Most of the SGI graphics engines usually
>specify x hundred thousand polygons/sec or something... or so many
>tens of thousand goroud or phong shaded polygons/sec. etc.  I'm
>curious what the A4000 can do, just flat shaded 3d triangles.  
>Anybody know? 
>
>One of the nice things about the A1000 is the composite video out to
>dump to a VCR.  Will there be an easy way to dump the NTSC mode
>screens on the 4000 to a VCR?
>
>Thanks
>mark
>
>please email
>mark@killdeer.stanford.edu
>
>
>
>

Considering you can buy a board for an Amiga for $9000 that will give you 2x
the power of a $200,000 SGI Workstation, yup, id say the Amiga is a wise
decision.. 


All Amigas are NTSC-capable, meaning you can dump video straight to a VHS deck,
or whatever recording medium you want. The Amiga also holds claim to perhaps
the beefiest 3D software selection of any personal computer. Yes, ive used
Topas 4.0, and ive used Autodesk's 3DStudio.. both are rather weak in
comparrison to programs like Caligari and Lightwave for the Amiga, which not
only give you some pretty BIG bangs for the buck, but often get the job done
with MUCH higher quality than the two MSDOS packages I just mentioned. 

Find somebody with a good stash of eurodemos if you want to see how fast an
Amiga can rack out graphics.. Ive seen demos of 200 solid-polygon faced
glenz-vectors rotating, resizing, expanding and contracting at 30 frames per
second.. 



        +-----------------------------------------------------------+
        |o|              I think, therefore I Amiga.              |=|
        +-----------------------------------------------------------+
        | Douglas Michael Kasten (DMK) | Amiga 2000HD/5 with a tiny |
        |  dmkasten@redorc.chi.il.us   | little 21" Toshiba monitor.|
        +------------------------------+----------------------------+
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