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From: jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling)
Subject: Re: back at Jim c.Re: Canadian Distributors
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 06:14:41 GMT

In article <1992Dec26.215420.1@camins.camosun.bc.ca> comptec92076@camins.camosun.bc.ca writes:
>In article <1992Dec25.194438.25122@sol.UVic.CA>, jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling) writes:
>Please note that Jim's store Dragon Strike is the bottom of comic stores in
>Victoria, Island Fantasy and Currious both have much bigger sales vollumes and
>both recognize the value of Groo and Usagi.
>            I won't say who I am just to p*** Jim off

I'll add some more, as well.

Don ignores the other shops in town:  Legends, Xeron, Trader Bob's, Top Line,
and a couple of the small shops I can't recall the names of.  There are 
elevel outlets in town which sell comics in the direct-sale market, and we're
a strong #2.  

I really wonder where Don gets his info?  He certainly hasn't been in my shop 
for more than a year -- and I didn't even have to use the Cowling Claw!

Then, of course, both Groo and Usagi Yojimbo are non-typical titles, which
sell to a segment of the comic book market outside standard comic circles.
I would go so far as to say that in Victoria, these books appeal to the
"fannish" segment of the market.  We've never been a store to cater to this
segment of the market.  For example, the local Star Trek club and the local
Japanamation club's members shop almost exclusively at other stores.  
Organized fan groups are a great group to have as customers, but when they're
fickle (as many consumers in this market are) they're fickle en masse.  Every
couple of years here in town, a local fan club will switch their preferred
store.  For example, the local Star Trek group used to shop almost exclusively
with us, then switched over to another store.  Similarly, the local SCA
branch is beginning its shuffle over to our store.

What does this have to do with the above?  Groo and Usagi appeal to fan groups.
Other stores in town sell more copies of these books because that's where
the fans shop.  Not even Island Fantasy, the local big boy, can match us for
(say) Cerebus sales, or Valiant sales.  

Please note that Don McCaskill is a former employee of Island Fantasy, and
"plays politics" in the local fan scene, much to the chagrin of store owners
and fan organizations, the vast majority of whom would rather not have anything
to do with him.  His opinion as expressed above is incorrect, and rather
mean-spirited.

Oh, BTW, Don, you're using a borrowed account, which is against Camosun
regulations.  I've warned Jason Veux (the owner of the account) that if I
see any further postings from you anywhere on UseNet I'll notify his sysadmin.

Now go away and don't bother us further.

-------
Scowling Jim Cowling
Professional Evil Person
Creative Writing Department, University of Victoria (opinions disassociated)
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden)
Subject: Re: Question about LSH #40
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 09:53:09 EST

arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes:

> In article <1992Dec31.002326.4732@zip.eecs.umich.edu> tyg@quip.eecs.umich.edu
> >To make matters even worse, it was established back in the Secrets of the
> >LSH mini-series (same one that revealed that Cham was Brande's kid) that
> >Drake Burroughs was adopted with no known blood relatives.
> 
> It was also established that Triplicate Girl came from a planet named Cargg,
> and that no Legionnare was inducted at the time that Kid Quantum supposedly
> was.

Good point.  We can't take ANY history before LSH #5 for granted any 
more.  Drake might have had any number of siblings and a different 
background.  

Namaste,
Elizabeth



Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics.xbooks,rec.arts.comics.strips
From: solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay)
Subject: Re: Happy Squid Appreciation Day -- the SQUIDDIES are here!
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Organization: Free Faerie Front
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 22:38:35 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.040620.1454@zip.eecs.umich.edu> tyg@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway) writes:
>In article <1993Jan3.032922.13765@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
>>>10. Favorite team of characters
>>Do the Endless qualify?  They have a collective name, powers, funny costumes,
>>and angst.
>
>They've gotten votes in the past...of course, this means that Swoon, Snuff,
>and whatever the Judge now goes by also are eligible.

Not "the Judge", it's a team: "Know-it-all Wise Guy/Evil Twin." Best
duo of '92, hands down.
-- 
Andrew Solovay    

"I is not now, nor has I ever been, a Human Bein'!"
                ---Pogo Possum
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dave Van Domelen)
Subject: Re: What's the deal with Fish Police?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 19:55:05 GMT

I have the last Fish Police (and the last Comet too).  My indie comics should 
be reaching me soon, and I'll try to remember to bring that issue and post a 
synopsis.
     Dave Van Domelen, stayed up until 6AM reading what I thought was the 4th 
book in the 5 book _War Against the Chtorr_ series by Gerrold, only to find 
that it was now the 4th of SEVEN.  Argh.
From: root@alba.e-burg.su (Volkov Alexander Nikolaevich)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: the repeated article about Russian comic artist Yury Dobrin...
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 15:30:07 +0200
Distribution: world
Organization: Alba
Reply-To: root@alba.e-burg.su

Hi netters,
Excuse me, but I haven't seen my last net-article on Usenet.
I don't know why. Therefore, I send this article once again.

-------------------------cut here-----------------------------------

I would like to try to answer frequently asked question of our many
customers about Russian comic artist Yury Dobrin(btw, Dobrini is
misprint of comics)who did make comics "Ilya Muromets". It's all
available to me information(He wasn't a my familiar):
Dobrin was working as easel painter an Kiev's publishing "The Child's
Literary".I think,the result of the easel painting learning is the
marked by you especially sepia-tone effect of some pictures of comics.
"Ilya Muromets" is his first attempt(seems, successful)in the comic art.
Although, the story of this comics is the well-known in Russia legend.
I'd seen three comic-adaptations of this legend(but,I'm sure Dobrin's
version is best in the meanwhile).Any Russian frequently see, read and
hear this story at the childhood.I think,it's a first motive that many
Russian comic artists begin with comic-adaptation of national legends
their comic careers. If you take into account the main today's emotional
situation in Russia which like the German-situation before Hitler-regime
(only my pesonal opinion!) ( Erih Remark said : "We hate our Past,the
Present is despicable for us, the Future is all the same for us"),then
you can understood why artists are ( and, maybe, will ) describing pre-
Cristian epoch in Russia.
So,about Yury Dobrin again:he made comics "Ilya Muromets" but he couldn't
published comics as far out Russia as well in Russia (excuse me, in USSR).
His business in Russia wasn't going swimmingly and one year ago he received
the possibility to emigrate from USSR. Now you can see Yury somewhere in
Virginia.I don't know the correct address (any emigrant don't know one's
tumorrow's nightplace-;)
Here in Russia Yury Dobrin leave only first respect sample of Russian Comic
Art (thanks your prompting, Rick -;) and Best Wishes.It was one year ago.
Maybe, the Americans will to see some fragments of comics "Ilya Muromets"
(and, maybe,fragments of others today's Russian unpublished comics which,
are,I think,better than "Ilya Muromets") in one of the American magazines
in the near future.But now, as seems to me, comic-collectors can to buy
this comics only from us(we're trying to make it by most comfortable for
they methods,in any way).
Thanks for your attention,
>From Russia with Best Wishes and Happy Christmas,
Alexander Wolkow.

Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba)
Subject: Re: "Sunk the Lowest" Award for 1992
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 00:59:40 GMT

hunter@cse.uta.edu (David Hunter) writes:

>Now that the end of the year is upon us, how about some nominations for
>the book that has sunk the lowest for this past year?  That is, the
>book that has fallen off the most in terms of quality (however you
>want to define that.)  My nomination goes to a Marvel book (of

Hmm...  So many choices, so little time...  
Anyone have a list of what actually came out this year?

A couple nominations off the top of my head...

Justice League with the new writing teams.  

Superman--the Death issues.  It was a very enjoyable book until this
very stupid storyline.  

Titans, ever since Titans Hunt (yeah, it's been over a year, but the
bottom keeps sinking with this one...)

I suppose this might count since at least the character was around before:
Silly Science Award goes to Eclipso (Solar heated water???)

And a special raspberry to all those books that missed deadlines.
[Any idea when _A_Distant_Soil_#3 is coming out?  I love the book, but
 enough's enough...]
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From: panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden)
Subject: Re: No Jaime!? (was Re: Favorite Artist Summary)
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 09:34:42 EST

rfischer@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Russell Fischer) writes:

> i love both love and rockets and jaime (beto too) hernandez.
> there seems to be little discussion of their work here, though, and i
> didn't respond to the fav. artists poll.
> i originally found jaime's work in mr. x, and really liked it, hich
> prompted me to try love and rockets, about which i had heard much.
> needless to say, i love l&r, story and art.
> 

So where is Maggie?  And why is Love & Rockets so irregular these days?  
I think the reason we don't see it discussed on the net is that it has 
been so long between issues we forget about it.

Or have issues been coming out and I'm missing them?  Oh, no!  Nightmare 
scenario.  Say it isn't so.

Have you read the Hernandez Bros. sketchbook?

Namaste,
Elizabeth


Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: Greg Clow <ecurrent@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Creation of rec.arts.comics.vertigo
Reply-To: ecurrent@zooid.UUCP (Greg Clow)
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:41:46 GMT

In article <BzM7Cw.43w@icon.rose.hp.com> andy@hpsmo100.rose.hp.com (Andy Young) writes:
>Michael A. Chary (mac7@po.CWRU.Edu) wrote:
>>The Vertigo imprint isn't even out.  Speculation that it will
>>support traffic should until comics that Vertigo on the cover
>>appear.
>
>I agree; it would be wise to wait and see if DC sticks with the Vertigo
>line - Lately, DC has been very fickle (GL:Mosaic, Impact, Dr.Fate, JSA,
>etc etc).
>
What do you mean, "if DC sticks with the Vertigo line"?  The heart of the
Vertigo line is one of DC's most sucessful books (Sandman), plus some weel
established books that have little chance of being cancelled in the near
future (Hellblazer, Doom Patrol, Animal Man), *plus* some new additions that
should do well just based on the creators involved (Death mini-series, Enigma,
etc.).   I don't forsee DC abandoning the Vertigo concept in the near future.
 
Greg
ecurrent@zooid.guild.org
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
From: joshm@crash.cts.com (Josh Mercer)
Subject: Re: Rahne jokes
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Distribution: us
Date: 31 Dec 92 20:53:27 GMT

In <1992Dec28.212943.11416@twg.com> rwalls@twg.com (Roger Walls) writes:

>With PAD doing Rahne's World (X-CELLENT) and Rahne and Simpy, how many
>puns could be created on the Rahne theme?

>I saw "singin' in the Rahne"  

>How about Guido under a Rahne occupied outhouse singing
>"Rahne Drops keep fallin' on my head"

>Or Rahne's evil twin "Black Rahne"

>Just a thought,

>Jolly Roger

The way she's been colored of late has made her purple Rahne.

Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
From: mickey@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Mickey)
Subject: Re: Proof that Cable is Nathan from X-Force #18
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 08:38:06 GMT

In article <22DEC92.12926396.0079@VM1.MCGILL.CA> CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXMP) writes:
>People have been asking why X-Force #18 implies that Cable, not Stryfe,
>is actually Nathan.  The most compelling evidence was that Scott was
>convinced of it at the end and God Forbid our heroes should be stupid.
>Still, this isn't hard evidence so I took the time to actually go
>through X-Force #18 to find some hard evidence.  Here it is:
>
>Proof that Cable isd Nathan from X-Force #18:
>
>2 page 4:  Cable is called "a failed attempt to preserve a life".
>  Clearly, Cable is not a robot.
>


	Actually, I took this line to be good support of the theory
that Stryfe is the true Nathan and that Cable was his clone.  If
memory serves, Stryfe was accussing Cable of being a failed attempt
to preserve a life that did not need preserved, namely his own.  It
would seem that somehow Mister Sinister Technology was used to clone
Stryfe (therefore Nathan) and create Cable, perhaps by Apocalypse.
	This theory is my personal favorite...

Mick

-- 
Mickey McCarter, amateur actor & reporter |mickey@chopin.udel.edu     __
"Law?  This is the only law.  The law     |mickey@pecan.cns.udel.edu / |	
 of averages." - Harvey Dent, Batman: TAS  |Weep not for Camelot...  /__|_ 
Existential Disclaimer: Believe what you like, nothing matters         |
From: robear@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jay Michael)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Multiple Man
Date: 24 Dec 92 08:31:17 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

I've read all the X-factor issues since #70, and I must admit I'm still
not completely clear on the extent of Jamie Madrox's powers.  This is what
I'm assuming they are:

1)  He can form up to 39 other multiples of himself
2)  Once a multiple dies . . . 

The problem with the first one is that both he and the 'evil' Madrox, when
maxed, totalled up to 40.  If the grand total for both the Madroxes could
only be forty, I think it an odd coincedence that they both happened to get
an equal number of dupes before maxing (actually, this was never explicitly
said-the real odd coicedence was that the two originals were the only ones
left standing after they all got knocked out-but since no one got killed 
because of it, I'll attribute it to humor and go on).  The alternative
to this theory is that Madrox can only make 19 dupes of himself (doesn't seem
like an army, but I guess I've never seen him with more than that), and the
evil Madrox could make his own evil 19 dupes independently.

And what about the multiple dying?  Was the fact that he couldn't be absorbed
purely due to Riccochet messing with his powers?  Or do dead dupes really
become permanent dead bodies, instead of ephemeral live ones?  And does the
death knock down the max total of dupes he could make?  (i.e., before his
dupe got shotgunned, he could have made 20 dupes . . . this doesn't seem
to wash because afterwards when the real and evil Madroxes fought, they
still added up to 40 instead of 41, if it was assumed that none of the evil
Madroxes dupes had been killed yet . . . so we have a Madradox (Madrox Paradox))

Jay Michael, still waiting for the scene where the Hulk says "Alright, muscle
boy, you're making me mad, and the madder I get, the stronger I get!", bops
Strong Guy a good one, who in turn says "No, the madder you get, the stronger
_I_ get!"  (yeah, the line against Slab, it would have been prophetic . . .)
and proceeds to flatten the Hulk with a well placed punch of absorbed
kinetic energy.  But nooooo, they have to wrestle . . . *sigh* ;)

"We prefer the term . . . Genetically Challenged, or GeeCees for short"
	--Strong Guy
From: sl859@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Stupidest Mutant Power -- top this if you can!
Date: 23 Dec 92 07:02:10 GMT
Organization: Utah State University

>>How about the mutant ability to _NOT_ register as a mutant on mutant scanners?
>>That's it, nothing more?  Would that qualify as the _STUPIDEST_?
> 
> Hey, that's my original Stupidest Mutant Power -- top this if you can!
> (the ability to fool things into thinking one's a human)
> -Jon Kung, hmph!

	Isn't this how the whole thread started!  Obviously the stupidest
mutant power is posessed by the person who can perpetuate a should be dead
thread on the newsnet, until it loops on itself!  
     							wReam...

P.S.  (This has been one of the more entertaining threads though!)
:)
From: bartusek@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Fantastic Four No. 7 (Prices??)
Date: 22 Dec 92 09:48:44 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

I have a Fantastic Four No. 7, with a Slightly torn and wrinkled cover that
has been sitting in a protective skin for about 12 years now. I,m Wondering 
if any one would have a guess on a price value for it.

Marc A. Bartusek
University of Northern Iowa

"I am the Dark Knight."
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
From: ejs16@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Eric Jaron Stieglitz)
Subject: Re: X-Factor Credits
Reply-To: ejs16@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Eric Jaron Stieglitz)
Organization: Me, Myself, and I
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 19:33:59 GMT

In article <72276@cup.portal.com> Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:
>The credits for "X-Factor #87" were written by me.
>
>I made Bob Harras a urologist because so many people are pissed with him,
>and I made Tom DeFalco a proctologist since he has to deal with so many
>assholes every day.
>
>PAD

The big question is: 
   
    Do they KNOW your reasons for doing so?   :-)

Eric Jaron Stieglitz aka ejs16@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
"With great power comes great responsibility"
We have been given the power of free speech.
Let's make sure that we use it wisely...
From: sl859@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Jim and Homage Studios
Date: 21 Dec 92 11:31:23 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

> So, wReam's an artist, huh? I guess this explains why his writing is
> the way it is over in LNH, a la Rob Liefeld... :-)

	Errrrrgh!  How Dare you insult me like such!!  I am mortally offended!
Just for that I will never pester you again!  Serious Writer (tm) !!!
 
>>P.S.  I do know somewhat how Dave feels!  Even a pest has pests that pester! 
> The advantage of being the pesteree is that you have access to bug spray.
> 		PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
> No more wReam!

You don't seriously think you can abolish my postings like that!  Muwahaha!
I am he who posts even during Christmas break!  NOTHING WILL STOP ME!  

						wReam...

P.S.  One of the statements I made above is not true!  You can guess as to
which one is or isn't true.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Subject: Re: Why was X-force Captured?
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 14:11:33 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <22DEC199210532773@udel.edu> jdelisle@udel.edu (J. G. Delisle) writes:
<Stuff about why X-Force is wanted and by whom deleted>
>	And yes, the X-Men would ignore X-Force's side... they aren't allies,
>they're just people who happen to be mutants and share the letter X.
>
Here I have to disagree.  Among X-Force's number are former New Mutants with
whom the X-Men were allies once long ago.  Those loyalties and that trust 
should still somewhat remain, despite the Magneto fiasco and the "kids" going
off on their own.  I would think at least the X-Men from then (pre-Fall) can
respect their motivations.  The New Mutants/X-Force went through a lot, and
as the X-Men have often said, "they were just kids".  Kids no longer (though
Sam needs to ditch the childish goggles), they deserve the X-Men's respect.


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From: pueschgj@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Remember Booster Gold?
Date: 22 Dec 92 19:44:10 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire


HAve any of you remember the comic book Booster gold
Great comic book, it ran till 25
wasnt too popular.
I think he is in the Europe League of Heros
From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: PhoenixAngst (was: Re: Excalibur #62 SPOILERS & comments)
Date: 30 Dec 92 14:07:05 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1992Dec29.160435.11592@nmsu.edu> bgrubb@dante.nmsu.edu (GRUBB) writes:
>>More PhoenixAngst(tm)...sigh.
>Alan Davis doen't seem to realize that his linking of Phoenix to the universe
>on page 9 raises the question of 'Why didn't Phoenix help out in ANY of
>the events surrounding Thantos's attempt to destroy the universe, or in
>Infinity War?'  Also this very consept flies in the face of the rational
>for Dark Phoenix and contridicts ideas put forth in What If... Vol 1 #32
>and Gaurdians of the Galaxy {Especially if the Protegy sees Phoenix!}
>SOME intellegent continity with just Marvel universe consepts would be nice.
>{I have NOT been pleased with the continity of Phoenix under Alan's hands
>(he blew a chance to correct the discrepencies between UX# 141-142 and
>later recolections by Rachel.)though he can write a good story.}
>
>Waiting for the next issue and hoping Pheonix gets back on track.

The thing I'm hoping for is that either Galactus was lying (why would he have
reason to lie? Idunno, maybe PAD could come up with a reason) or just didn't
have his facts straight (wouldn't be the first time) about the nature of the
Phoenix powers...  My first reaction to the whole thing was "first you mess
with Illyana, then Logan, and now Phoenix?  I liked it better when it was
all a mystery and I could make up my own histories."

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From: jdelacr@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Jorge DeLaCruz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: X-Force #19
Date: 29 Dec 92 16:27:34 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

>And who the heck
>was the Stevie girl talking to Roberto? 

   Stevie Hunter was the Dance Teacher of the New Mutants, when they had
  Normal or Semi-Normal people living in the X-mansion.

    Like the cop and the nurse that were turned into Native Americans, last
  seen during the Morlock Massacure.  May have joined the other Morlocks on
  Muir Isle, yes another loose end forgetten.  Therefore no "Last" Morlock
  Story.

						Jorge Delacruz
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David R. Henry)
Subject: Re: ***X-men comix wanted to trade***
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 08:00:56 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

>Sorry to post this here, but...
>
>I AM LOOKING TO TRADE X-MEN COMICS.

There was *nobody* you know who'd be willing to have posted this on
rac.marketplace for you?


"Buy high, sell low!"  --The One-Eared God
			  (Dawn gets the joke, right?)
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