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From: kwest@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Kenneth C West)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: More Barker
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:36:38 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


	Okay, here's my OPINION about Barker: I think he is a fine writer on the technical side, he's no hack, and there have been stories that I really liked
his ideas (especially the Hellraiser series (movies more than books)). But, does
anyone agree that he has been known to grind out some really dull stuff?
	I never read CABAL, but I saw the movie made from it (I forget what
it was titled) and....well, it wasn't a bad film, I guess, but there was 
something missing. I really couldn't put my finger on it. Maybe the book was
better.
	But, has anyone read THE GREAT AND SECRET SHOW? I don't know.....I saw
it in the bookstore, read the synopsis, and thought Barker had finally merged
his fine ability with a great concept. Then I read it, and I was blacking out
from boredom and cliched plot devices. Other people have praised the book to me,but I haven't seen what they see. It's hard to explain.....the writing ability
is clearly there, the ideas are often interesting and original, but still 
there's something.....missing.
	Now, I know a lot of people disagree. A bunch of replies saying I don't
know what the hell I'm talking about aren't really necessary, eh? I'm more
interested in people of a like mind who might have a better grasp on what that
missing element is......because if Barker ever gets his grubby hands on that
missing link, whatever it is, he'll probably write a book beyond belief.
	Anyone?


						-Jeff "NOT KEN WEST" SOMERS
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: pastino@sjuphil.uucp (Sal Pastino)
Subject: Dario Argento's Rockband
Organization: Saint Joseph's University
Distribution: mf2w+@andrew.cmu.edu.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 12:10:27 GMT


Sorry I can't answer your questions about Dario Argento, but perhaps
you could answer a couple of mine. Does he really have a rockband called
Goblin? According to one film review book I read this band has also done
music for other films. As I haven't ever actually seen his films (they are
not yet available in video stores here or someone else has rented them out)
would you mind sending me plot synopses(?spelling) on Suspiria, Unsane and Phantom of the Opera?

                                           Thanks in Advance, Sal Pastino
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From: ric@netcom.com (Richard A. Bretschneider)
Subject: Re: The Flagg thread ......
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 03:38:08 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

v079kku8@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Yes, it's Bond, James Bond.) writes:


>	Once and for all, lets make a compilation of all the books, novels,
>novellas, or short stories that have a Flagg-type character:

>		1) The Stand
>		2) The Dark Tower I: The Gunslinger
>		3) The Dark Tower III: The Waste Lands
>		4) Eyes of the Dragon

I don't know that I would agree with 2.  Walter was kinda borderline.
I would add Needful Things, Gaunt was a mesmer, a healer (heh, heh, 
heh), and a "leader of men and women." 

-- 

"If you're not going to kill me, I've got things to do."
Ric Bretschneider     ric@netcom.com        BWAH-Ha-ha!
    "Anybody not wearing 2 million sunblock 
      is going to have a real bad day, get it?"
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Friday the 13th, The Series - TV Program Question
From: matthew@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:35:46 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

In article <3483@rosie.NeXT.COM>, bsteinm@grumpy.next.com (Bill Steinmetz) writes:
> I started watching the show every Friday at midnight in 1986.  One
	
	That's pretty amazing that you saw it in 1986--especially when
it didn't start until 1987, at the same time as the premiere of Star
Trek: The Next Generation  (But don't worry--we all make mistakes :)
).  I believe it ran for three or four years.  I'm rather sad it
ended, although in the last season it seemed that Jack, Micki, and
Johnny weren't doing as many stories as just being connections to
other people.  Maybe it was just one program, but wasn't there an
episode that the only connection to our heroes was that the woman had
come into Curious Goods and talked to Micki?  That although the
object-of-the-week was featured, the regular cast wasn't ?
	Just a question....
				--Matt
-- 
Matt Chatterly               |   "How'd you get hand lotion all the
(a blatant pseudonym.....)   |    way up there?"
Matthew@oread.cc.ukans.edu   |   "I told you I spilled it...."
					--_Young Lady Chatterly_
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From: ma183sbs@sdcc4.ucsd.edu (Eddie the 'ead)
Newsgroups: alt.horror,rec.arts.movies,bit.listserv.cinema-l
Subject: Stephen King news
Keywords: Pet Sematary II, Needful Things
Date: 11 Apr 92 02:39:08 GMT
Followup-To: poster


This is all from Fangoria #112:
Pet Semetary II set to star Edward Furlong (T2), Anthony Edwards,
Darlanne Fluegel, and Clancy Brown.
Needful Things will be directed by Peter Yates from a screenplay by
W.D. Richter .
Unrelated to SK, but Fangoria reports that Friday the 13th Part IX
will open on November 13.

Is this an April Fools joke?!

ed

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From: dmpowell@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darin M. Powell)
Subject: Sleepwalkers (review)
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 14:54:25 EDT

Sleepwalkers -- a short review
***1/2 (out of five)



SPOILERS AHEAD...


  Sleepwalkers is a fairly fresh, fairly original, fairly entertaining
  piece from our dear Uncle Steve.  The first half of the movie is very
  gore-free and plot oriented.  Then, by the halfway point, the blood just
  runs out of the screen...minor characters die by the rate of one per minute.
  We get to see impalement on a picket fence, a stabbing in the eye, heads
  cracking together, stabbing in the head, and my favorite, a man skewered 
  with an ear of corn.

  "Sleepwalkers" is successful, much better than anemic trash like "The
  Lawnmower Man" and "Children of the Corn," but there are a few spots
  of dreadful dialogue and silly plot devices that keep it from being
  truly a "good" film.  And although the idea and execution are fairly
  original, the ending is obvious from miles away.

  The film is about a mother and her son who are both shape-shifting werecat
  things who feed on the blood of human virgins, and who are the source for
  vampire legends.  The can be killed by the bite or scratch of a cat, and
  spend their whole lives in fear of cats.  Cats can see them when they are
  invisible, and generally hunt the "sleepwalkers," watching guard outside
  their home.

  One strange, and totally unneccesary plot element is an incestual relation-
  ship between "mother" and "son".  Yecch.

  Basically, mother is hungry and send son out to find a nice virgin.  He does,
  and sort of falls in love with her..but then he comes to his senses and
  decides to kill and eat her.  But problems arise, she gets away....and so on.

  The first half of the movie paints the sleepwalkers sympathetically, a la
  Clive Barkers "Nightbreed."  This works well and adds a bit of intelligence
  to the flick (but bored the gore hounds in the audience).  But about half-
  way through, all sympathetic pretenses are dropped and the movie becomes
  your basic good-guys-vs-evil-monsters affair.  But it's handled pretty well.

  A tip: don't root for the minor characters.  They all die.
  Yes. All of them.

  Except, of course, Clovis the cat, the defacto hero of the film. He lives.
  And the virgin...what do you expect?

  For the most part, "Sleepwalkers" is well acted.  The direction is servicable.  Some plot elements are silly, some quite scary.  The transformation of the
  sleepwalkers from human to cat, using T2 morphing technology, is quite good.

  Overall, there are some real enjoyable moments in "Sleepwalkers" even if
  the whole film doesn't hold up as well as "Misery" or "The Shining". It's
  probably worth seeing on the big screen...if you haven't already wasted your
  money on "The Lawnmower Man."

  Darin Powell
  dmpowell@rodan.acs.syr.edu



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From: natefrei@juliet.caltech.edu (Frei, Nathan A.)
Subject: Re: FLAGG AS GUNSLINGER??????
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.40    
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 02:37:00 GMT


In article <Apr.5.00.52.07.1992.5594@andromeda.rutgers.edu>
     kwest@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Kenneth C West) writes:
>       Not to sound thick-headed, but I just looked through this
>       group and saw a post that barely hinted that someone thought
>       Randall Flagg from THE STAND was one and the same as
>       the Gunslinger in THE DARK TOWER. I never thought of this
>       and didn't note any hints towards it, but I don't claim
>       to be the most careful of readers. Anyone care to post
>       their thoughts on this and maybe some evidence? Please!
>       I'd like to hear more on this!
>
>                                       -Not Ken West
> 


	I don't remember THE DARK TOWER specifically, but near the end of THE
WASTE LANDS (third book in the series), a guy shows up in the tunnels whose
character reminded me an awful lot of Flagg.  He also said something along the
lines of "Someone else once said, 'My life for you,'" (I don't have the book
with me) which is what the Trashcan Man told him in THE STAND.
	Now for the next question:  Why did S.K. stick Flagg in this story,
instead of leaving him on a beach somewhere in THE STAND?



			Nathan Frei (say 'free')
From: rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Lovecraft/Barker
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:44:36 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Apr3.150306.1@woods.ulowell.edu> mcduffeek@woods.ulowell.edu writes:
>
>I guess you could say I'm just an "amateur" King and horror reader, but I
>thought maybe someone could give a BRIEF review on Weavewrld.  I heard it's
>good.Is it to you out there?
>
>kmcduffee@woods.ulowell.edu

	Ok, here's my 2 cents.  A few people on the net have complained that
Lovecraft's writing is cumbersome and/or boring.  Though I disagree, that's
just personal preference.
	I, however, feel the same for Clive Barker.  I read the first page
of Weaveworld 8 times and I still couldn't figure out how many characters
were in the first scene, where it took place, or even who/what they were.  I
gave it to a friend who verified my feelings by doing the same.  Between the
two of us, we couldn't make heads or tails of it.
	It's kind of disappointing, because I've heard praise for Barker
similar to what I love about Lovecraft, his creation of a whole pantheon of
horrors waiting for humanity to stumble upon them.
	Also, about McCammon, I loved The Wolf's Hour, but found it to be
very comic bookish and cliche.  If it was a movie, it would be a good 
Saturday matinee B-movie.  Stephen King often calls his work the literary
equivalent of a Big Mac and fries.  If that's the case, the Wolf's Hour 
was a Milky Way.
	No flames, please.  These are my opinions only and meant to be
taken or left.  If you could explain what I'm missing about Barker in a
polite fashion, I would be happy to hear it, however.

					Raythrax        


Cthulhu Loves Me.
This I Know,
For the Mad Arab
Told Me So.
From: rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Steve King Mania...
Keywords: There is more to life than...
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:50:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: njitgw.1992Apr7.215045.2710
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Mar31.111115.18197@newstand.syr.edu> dmpowell@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darin M Powell) writes:
>
>	Well. I (like others) have seen how this place has been
>	deluged by Stephen King, Stephen King, Stephen King. I
>	am a big Stephen King fan, so I am not going to suggest
>	something silly like banning him from the group, but...
>
>	I see a lot of redundant comments, and questions like
>	"was this based off such-and-such" asked over and over.
>	I'm not slamming the people who want to know these things,
>	I think their request for info is what this group is about.
>	But it leads me to ask a few questions.
>
>	1. How many in this legion of King readers have read anything
>	but King? Does your concept of horror begin and end with King?
>
>	2. Are you really horror fans, or just Kingheads?
>
>	With me, King was a gateway into a whole world of wonderful stuff.
>	He opened doors to a world of horror I never knew existed.
>
>	King led me to: Ramsey Campbell, Clive Barker, Shirley Jackson,
>	H.P. Lovecraft, Richard Matheson, Ray Bradbury, Robert Bloch,
>	Robert Aickman, Karl Edward Wagner, F. Paul Wilson, Joe R. Lansdale,
>	Dennis Etchison, David Morrell, Stever Rasnic Tem, Thomas Ligotti,
>	Peter Straub, William F. Nolan, Tanith Lee, John Brunner, 
>	Katherine Ptacek, Nancy Collins, Thomas Harris, Wayne Allen Sallee,
>	Ed Gorman, Harlan Ellison, Phillip K. Dick, Charles L. Grant....
>
>	And many more.  For those of you out there who just read King,
>	and want more, I suggest any of these names to you (I left out
>	Machen, Dunsany, Ambrose Bierce, M.R. James and Algernon
>        Blackwood).  Look them up. Read them. Debate them on the net.
>
>	I love Uncle Steve, I really do. 
>	But there is more out there, so much more.
>	Happy reading.                  
>
>	Darin Powell
>	dmpowell@rodan.acs.syr.edu


	I began reading King (believe it or not) NOT because I like horror,
but because I like fantasy novels.  Eyes of the Dragon was my first
experience with King.  Enchanted by th
e character of Flagg, I went on to track down The Stand and read that.  From
there, the list goes on and on.  I have been expanding my literary horizons
of late, and can whole-heartedly recommend H.P. Lovecraft for chilling
horror that gives you nightmares.  The man is brilliant at evoking images
of sheer terror without resorting to gore.  I especially recommend reading
The Best of H.P. Lovecraft before reading King's Needful Things, as there
are references in the latter which are much more chilling when you understand
the implications.

					IMHO,
						Raythrax
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From: cs162sbd@sdcc5.ucsd.edu (Eddie the 'ead)
Newsgroups: alt.horror,rec.arts.movies,bit.listserv.cinema-l
Subject: More Pet Semetary News
Date: 12 Apr 92 05:04:21 GMT
Followup-To: poster

According to a recent issue of Variety:

Pet Semetary 2 will be directed by Mary Lambert (director of the first one),
produced by Ralph Singleton, and written by Richard Outten (it says that it
is based on Stephen King's book.)  It stars Edward Furlong (T2), Clancy Brown,
Anthony Edwards, Darlenne Fluegel, Jared Rushton, Lisa Waltz, Sarah Trigger,
and Jason McGuire.  Due out August 28.

ed

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From: jordan@cs.tulane.edu (Misti Jordan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: FLAGG AS GUNSLINGER??????
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:58:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr8.015839.1337
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-1290]: sinbad


In article <1992Apr6.145541.54242@cc.usu.edu>, slb3y@cc.usu.edu (Unterhund) writes:
>
>      Speaking of the "Dark Tower" saga, how would netters rank the
> books in quality?  I found _The_Waste_Lands_ to be the best of the
> three, simply because I finally find myself caring about the
> characters.  _The_Gunslinger_ seemed to be no more than a mishmash of
> ideas King had, and _The_Drawing_of_the_Three_, while better, was
> mostly background information.  I get the impression it's finally
> coming together in King's mind, and it shows in the writing.  IMHOs,
> anyone?
> --

    I must say that I totally agree, although I still have problems
with _The _Waste_Lands_. I had real problems getting through _The_
Gunslinger_... although it did get better once he found the little
boy (I can't remember his name right now, but I can look it up after
I get home if I can't remember it before I finish this post). I really
enjoyed the stories of how Roland got Eddie, Suzanna, and the other
guy to help, and the story about pulling the boy through the second
time, through the door drawn in the dirt, was awesome! I do not like
the way TWL ended, though. I do agree with your ranking, though.
_The_Waste_Lands_, _The_Drawing_of_the_Three_, and then _The_Gunslinger_,
in decreasing order.

Misti

(Can't wait for the next one-- Wizards and Glass, isn't it?)
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From: dmpowell@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darin M. Powell)
Subject: Re: Witches
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 14:32:57 EDT

In article <68@quark.ansto.gov.au> davidc@quark.ansto.gov.au (David Carroll) writes:

>I'm looking for examples to use in an essay on Witches in Literature and
>I'm actually having trouble thinking them up. Either the poor old
>witch hasn't been given much serious treatment or I'm missing something.
>Can anyone help?
>
>I've got 'Witches of Eastwick' by John Updike, 'The Witching Hour' by Anne
>Rice and that's about it. Throw in Thessaly from Sandman, and Terry
>Pratchett and Bewitched for the less serious minded.
>
>If anyone can give me a list of further novels/short stories to add
>to this I would be very grateful.

	sure....

	Shakespeare, "Macbeth" (the root of all witches)
	Hawthorne, "Young Goodman Brown" (short story)
	Authur Miller, "The Crucible" (actually about communists)
	Frank L. Baum "The Wizard of Oz" (of course)
	Fritz Leiber "Conjure Wife"
	C.S. Lewis "The Lion, The Witch & The Wardrobe" (actually about Jesus)
	-- look through collections of fairy tales, esp. Hans Christian
	Anderson ("The Tinderbox" is a good one, as are several others) and
	The Brothers Grimm (especially "Snow White")

	Darin Powell
	dmpowell@rodan.acs.syr.edu


Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: pastino@sjuphil.uucp (Sal Pastino)
Subject: Christopher Lee & John Carridine
Organization: Saint Joseph's University
Distribution: alt.horror
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 12:23:23 GMT


Thanks for all the information on John Carridine and Christopher Lee.

                                                  Sal Pastino
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: dnanian@uw.com (Dave Nanian)
Subject: Re: Dario Argento
Reply-To: dnanian@uw.com (Dave Nanian)
Organization: UnderWare, Inc.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:24:21 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.180546.311@mala.bc.ca> epp@mala.bc.ca (Lorne Epp) writes:
> In article <1992Apr13.060202.21298@mixcom.com>,  
ray.chramega@mixcom.mixcom.com (ray.chramega) writes:
> > 
> > DEMON - This is about people in modern times who are unsuspectingly coaxed
> [description deleted]
> > 
> > DEMON 2 - The demon makeup is much improved in the sequel in my opinion,  
but
> [description delete]
> 
> ? Are you sure these are Argento movies?  I don't have my Video Guide handy,
> but I'm pretty sure these were by either Lucio Fulci or Mario Bava (I think
> DEMON may have been directed by Mario's son, Whatsisname Bava).

Indeed, at least DEMON was made by Lamberto Bava, and produced by Argento.   
DEMON 2 was also produced by Argento, but I don't remember if Lamberto Bava  
directed it (sorry).  THE CHURCH, which was also mentioned, was directed by  
Michele Soavi, who has also done THE DEVIL'S DAUGHTER (aka THE SECT) with  
Argento, a pretty darn good movie!  He's definitely got some serious visual  
talent, and is better with a narrative than Argento has been lately.

A fantastic magazine for this kind of stuff, BTW, is VIDEO WATCHDOG:  they  
specialize in horror/SF/fantasy movies, and do serious research on what's going  
on.  Lots of interviews, obscure facts, analysis, criticism.  Excellent, and  
highly recommended.
--
Dave Nanian, UnderWare, Inc. (dnanian@uw.com, uunet!uw!dnanian)
NeXT Mail Preferred, but any mail cheerfully accepted.
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From: ed_medeiros@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: THE final Friday 13th movie
Date: 12 Apr 92 13:42:31 -0600
Organization: Muskingum College

Has anyone else heard about the final Friday the 13th movie coming out
(supposively) Friday November 13, 1992.  All I have read in Fango is that it
will be the final movie of the series, Jason is back, it will be more on
Jason's origin, Jason is back, hardly any teenagers around, and if I didn't
mention it, Jason is back.  










ed
From: cjmoran@unix2.tcd.ie (Ben Dover)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Weaveworld (??)
Date: 13 Apr 92 11:27:21 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

In <1992Apr10.144837.1@woods.ulowell.edu> mcduffeek@woods.ulowell.edu writes:


>Not to have anyone give the book away, but I've heard Barker's "Weaveworld"
>is worth reading (some said it resembles Tron in some ways (??)) but I
>wanted to get more input on it, but I HAVE NOT read it but I have an idea
>of what it's about, but is it good?  Comments please...
WEAVEWORLD IS WELL WORTH READING BUT IN MY HUMBLE OPINION IT IS NOT
BARKER"S BEST BOOK.IT IS A GOOD READ AND HAS LOTS OF EXITING MOMENTS BUT
IN SOME PLACES LACKS PACE.IF YOU HAVEN'T READ ANY OF HIS BOOKS BEFORE I
WOULD STRONGLY RECOMEND "cabal" OR "the great and secret show".CABAL IS
A SHORT BOOK WHICH MOVES AT A BLISTERING PACE....AN EXCELLENT READ.
                 ON THE OTHER HAND "THE GREAT AND SECRET SHOW" IS ALSO A
VERY GOOD READ BUT IS LONGER(ROUGHLY THE SAME LENGTH AS WEAVEWORLD).
                 ANY WEAVEWORLD ALSO IS WORTH A READ IF YOUR CURIOUS AND
I WOULDN'T HESITATE(HOW DO YOU SPELL HESITATE?) TO ENDORSE IT.IT HAS
SOME COMEDY AS WELL AS HORROR AND THE WHOLE IDEA FOR THE STORY IS
ORIGONAL AND VERY INTERISTING.IF I WERE YOU I'D GET IT AND START READING
AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.


                  ANY OTHER BARKER FANS OUT THERE ????
a
B
C
        HAS  ANYONE READ "IMAJICA" YET...
                   IS IT ANY GOOD? 
                     PLEASE LET ME KNOW. 



>kmcduffee@woods.ulowell.edu
From: bsteinm@grumpy.next.com (Bill Steinmetz)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Friday the 13th, The Series - TV Program Question
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:53:21 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.143546.1@oread.cc.ukans.edu>  
matthew@oread.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> In article <3483@rosie.NeXT.COM>, bsteinm@grumpy.next.com (Bill  
Steinmetz) writes:
> > I started watching the show every Friday at midnight in 1986.  One
> 	
> 	That's pretty amazing that you saw it in 1986--especially when
> it didn't start until 1987, at the same time as the premiere of Star
> Trek: The Next Generation  (But don't worry--we all make mistakes :)

Where did you get the 1987 date?  You say that it appeared the same time
as "Star Trek:  The Next Generation".  However,  I remember watching
"Friday the 13th:  The Series" before that.  I started watching the Series
during my first year at college (the 1985 - 1986 school year).  I asked
some of my friends and they agree that I talked about the show during that
year.

As a side comment, dates from magazines and books are often mistaken.

Bill
From: joker@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re:Witches
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:48:50 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

there was a play written about witches I think it was called
" Dark of the Moon". Hope this helps
			
			Darren
" The universe hath not created justice"