From: samodena@csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu (S. A. Modena)
Subject: all white male groups
Organization: Crop Science Dept., NCSU, Raleigh, NC 27695-7620
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:49:02 GMT

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> From @ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu:WISENET@UICVM.BITNET  Thu Sep  3 16:33:56 1992
> Message-Id: <9209032033.AA113156@csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu>
> Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 15:05:02 -0500
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> Sender: Women In Science and Engineering NETwork <WISENET%UICVM.BITNET@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu>
> From: jd%ECN.PURDUE.EDU@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu
> Subject:      Re: department policy
> To: Multiple recipients of list WISENET <WISENET@UICVM.BITNET>
> 
> I think you concern about being closeminded to minority groups
> because it is more difficult to aassure their representation
> on committees is accurate.
> If everyone used the "easiest" or "simplest" way of making
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> up committees, boards, etc., we would continue to have all white
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> male groups making policy decisions.  It is by going to the trouble
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> of getting input from a wide variety of participant groups that we
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> move toward greater equity.
> 
> My concern on this same subject is "How do you get representation of
> underrepresented groups without taking advantage of the people
> who represent those groups.  For instance our women faculty are
> asked to serve on many committees, taking time away from the
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> research and teaching responsibilities which will eventually
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> earn them tenure.  As far as I can tell none of the tenure
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> committees take into account time and effort spent in advising
> students, serving on department and university committees, etc.
> yet if our women faculty refuse to participate they are viewed
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> as uncoperative and not interested in helping other women.  Catch 22.
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     let alone being thought of as helping their *departments*
     and just run-of-the-mill *colleagues*
> 
> Jane Daniels
> 

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