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From: geoff@pmafire.inel.gov (Geoff Allen)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 20:41:06 GMT
Organization: Computer Nerd (is that redundant?), WINCO, INEL, Idaho
Subject: Corkscrew for sale, cheap
Summary: 
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buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com () writes:
>Well, this week I have to report that the GRAVITY DEFYING
>CORKSCREW coaster at Silverwood in Athol, ID, is for sale,
>and will not be at the park much longer.  Ride it if you
>can. (PS, the is the ORIGINAL Arrow Corkscrew coaster!!)

Yeah, but it's in *bad* shape.

Now, if they're planning on replacing it with a B&M suspended steelie,
well, I might go visit my in-laws more often. ;^)

>1) Why are all these Corkscrew rides for sale?

'Cause it's a lame ride? :^>  I dunno. If they're being replaced, I
could see a ``bigger and better'' upgrade thing happening.  But if
they're just being removed....

>2) Silverwood only kept theirs for 2 years ...
>   did the public hate it that bad??

Folks there seemed to be enjoying it immensely.  I suspect many of them
had never ridden anything like it (the northwest is hurtin' for
coasters).  We went on a Wednesday, and even with rather light crowds
every train was going out full.  In comparison, they weren't loading the
Monster completely, leaving two arms empty.

Several locals heard we were going to Silverwood and said something
like, ``Oooohhh!!  That roller coaster is so awesome!!!''  I hope
Silverwood isn't going to hurt themselves by getting rid of it.

If they're just going to replace it, maybe it's a sign that Silverwood
is doing well (there seemed to be plenty of people there for a
Wednesday) and wants to upgrade.  If they're getting rid of it, then I
can't think of an explanation.

Just hope they don't get rid of that Tilt-a-Whirl... ;^)

Geoff ``Silverwood semi-local'' Allen

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From: geoff@pmafire.inel.gov (Geoff Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: Silverwood Theme Park, Athol, Idaho
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:12:38 GMT
Organization: Computer Nerd (is that redundant?), WINCO, INEL, Idaho

daytrpr@max.u.washington.edu writes:
>
>I'll go one further...would someone post a description of the park.
>What kind/how many rides do they have, what kind of stuff is there
>to do?

Just to save y'all from responding, I'll let you know that I mailed
Steve a copy of my original post in this thread.

Geoff

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From: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: HERCULES *CLOSED* !!!
Date: 17 Aug 92 14:59:13 GMT
Reply-To: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com ()
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

Well, my source from Dorney Park reports that HERCULES
is closed AGAIN!!

The park and Guest Relations are taking a lot of heat
from the General Public for the attraction not being
available (which has caused lines for the parks other
two coasters ... LASER & THUNDERHAWK [which only run 
1 train each] ... to grow to astronomical lengths!), 
but the park has taken even more heat from those 
patrons who've injured themselves on the ride.

From what I've heard, the ride will remain closed
until further notice.

If you're looking to ride HERCULES, I suggest you
call the park before heading out there.

B.
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From: brims@bnkl01.astro.ucla.edu (George Brims)
Subject: Re: SFMM Times
Organization: UCLA Dept of Astronomy
Date: 20 Aug 92 11:39:22 PDT

Outside of the summer period, SFMM is open from ten in the morning each Saturday and Sunday. Closing times vary, getting earlier as you get into winter. It can actually be quite chilly there in December (it's way over 100F just now!), so you are generally glad to leave by 6 or 7.
By the way I forgot to mention in an earlier post they have a scheme called the Twicket. When you get in go to the Twicket counter (to your left after the turnstiles, and for something like 3 or 4 dollars they give you another pass valid for another visit inside of a month. So you can get the second day of a weekend for very little (if you feel up to it).

George Brims
From: kristy@dssdev.enet.dec.com (Kristy S. Gleason (Woobie))
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: Any good roller-coasters around Minneapolis?
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:36:13 GMT
Reply-To: kristy@dssdev.enet.dec.com (Kristy S. Gleason (Woobie))
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


I don't know if the coasters are good, but isn't there a *HUGE* mall that just 
opened in the Twin Cities yesterday?  There are supposedly a bunch of rides and
such.... the article I read in the newspaper didn't mention any names of any of
the rides, but it did say that there were coasters....

*shrug*  Good luck!

-- Kristy
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Subject: Paramount Pictures?
From: slayer@qed.cts.com (Kyle Fujimoto)
Date: 11 Aug 92 19:28:37 GMT
Organization: The QED BBS, Lakewood CA


 They would actually consider closing down one of the BIGGEST and BEST 
roller-coaster in the nation in the BEAST?  considering it has been the #1 
roller-coaster by many ACE members, I can't believe them doing that... 
I haven't been to either park, but I was reading an amusement park guide 
that listed the coasters King's Island had and it paled in comparsion (lack 
of good wooden coasters othen than the Beast and too many rides I get sick 
on like the stand-up's and twisting coasters) to their I would think major 
competition in the area upstate there in Cedar Point.  I would think Cedar 
Point would kick King's Island BIG TIME especially if they did get rid of 
the beast since Cedar Point had (according to the book) lots of good 
roller-coasters I enjoy (wooden, suspended) like the Magnum XL-200 and the 
Mean Streak.  
 I might plan a trip to that area in the near future and wanted to know if 
Cedar Point was a lot better park than King's Island, espeically in the wake 
of them might taken out the Beast (what would they replace it with?).  
SLAYER

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The QED BBS -- (310)420-9327
From: dblakele@acpub.duke.edu (Dean Blakeley MD)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: Kings Island (and others) *sold* to Paramount Communications Inc.
Date: 15 Aug 92 10:48:17 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Aug4.181835.9425@usl.edu> rhb@ucs.usl.edu (Bird Rendell H.) writes:
>>According to lots of people in the Cincinnati area Paramount Communications
>>Inc. wants to get rid of the BEAST 

Echo on this one. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

>I heard this rumor about two years ago. The version I heard was 'the Beast
>is starting to become a maintenance nightmare; expect KI to get rid of it
>soon'.
>
>It is still there.
>
>
>(*But, I may step up my plans to get to Ohio for fear the rumor may have a
> whisp of truth to it*)

Thank goodness I rode the BEAST 10 times last month before I left Ohio
and moved down here to good ole Durham.  (The Grizzly at KD is a pale shadow
compared to it's big cousin in Cinci)

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From: daytrpr@max.u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Great America, CA
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:22:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: max.1992Aug13.122217.1



Just out of curiosity:

      Does anyone know the height of drop/angle of drop/max speed
for the Demon at Great America in Santa Clara, CA?


-Daytrpr
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From: VAAIRP@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject: Re: Paramount Pictures?
Organization: University of Kentucky
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:18:55 GMT

In article <eaXcPB1w164w@qed.cts.com>
slayer@qed.cts.com (Kyle Fujimoto) writes:
 
>
>                      [KI or CP]
>I haven't been to either park, but I was reading an amusement park guide
>that listed the coasters King's Island had and it paled in comparsion (lack
>of good wooden coasters othen than the Beast and too many rides I get sick
>on like the stand-up's and twisting coasters) to their I would think major
>competition in the area upstate there in Cedar Point.
 
"Twisting coasters" ???? At KI????  Does this count the mine ride as a
twisting coaster?
 
Let's not discount the Racer (KI's flagship woodie before the Beast).  Sure,
they added those stupid leg/lap bars, but you should be able to get out of
the station without pushing it all the way down.  Ridden this way, the Racer
offers a lot more air time than the Beast.  Plus it has a better wait-time to
thrill ratio, IMHO, than the Beast.  Don't get me wrong, the Beast is a great
ride, but not the only worthwhile reason to go to KI.
 
 
>I would think
>Point would kick King's Island BIG TIME especially if they did get rid of
>the beast since Cedar Point had (according to the book) lots of good
>roller-coasters I enjoy (wooden, suspended) like the Magnum XL-200 and the
                                  ^^^^^^^^^
>Mean Streak.
 
Apparently you haven't heard about CP's suspended coaster.  I wouldn't
wait for more than 15 minutes for it.  (BTW, Magnum XL-200 is steel, but has
a traditional out-and-back layout.)
 
 
> I might plan a trip to that area in the near future and wanted to know if
>Cedar Point was a lot better park than King's Island, espeically in the wake
>of them might taken out the Beast (what would they replace it with?).
>SLAYER
 
Go to both if you can.  But if one is the only option and you like woodies,
try CP.  Discounting Magnum XL-200, their steel coasters are nothing to
write home about (I expect some loyal Corkscrew fans to disagree), yet it
is neat to come home and tell everyone that you rode more than 7 coasters
(10 is the count I think) in one park.
 
Rick Marquardt
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From: Thorsten_Kitz@mk.maus.de (Thorsten Kitz)
Subject: SFMM Times
Organization: Mausnet
X-Gateway: MausGate/Mail 1.11
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 10:27:00 +0000

Hey there,

does anybody knows the opening times for Six Flags Magic Mountain in LA ?
I want to visit LA at the end of September and I heard, that the park
is only?opening on weekends.

Thanks for any reply,

Thorsten.

P.S.: How much is the admission fee for adults, are there any family tickets ?
From: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: Silverwood Theme Park, Athol, Idaho
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:11:56 GMT
Reply-To: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

Geoff-A-Whirl writes:

>Our first ride was the Sky Diver.  I'd never ridden this at the local
>fair because it didn't look worth fair prices to ride.  But it was a
>blast.  My wife concluded that the real purpose of the ride was to
>confiscate loose change from all the riders.  Quite wild.

I *love* the Sky Diver!!!  I'd be in heaven at a park which had one
of these as part of a POP!


Buck "love live Chance Rides Inc."
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From: geoff@pmafire.inel.gov (Geoff Allen)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 14:27:35 GMT
Organization: Computer Nerd (is that redundant?), WINCO, INEL, Idaho
Subject: Re: FOR SALE
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Organization: Computer Nerd (is that redundant?), WINCO, INEL, Idaho
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Buck asked:
>>1) Why are all these Corkscrew rides for sale?
>>
>>2) Silverwood only kept theirs for 2 years ...
>>   did the public hate it that bad??

And pab@po.CWRU.Edu (Pete Babic) speculated:
>Or, could it be that these rides cost too much for a small park to maintain?

I wondered about that, too.  But, since Silverwood maintains a steam
locomotive and several miles of track (through dense pine forest) in a
moderately severe winter climate, and they maintain many many airplanes,
I can't imagine a roller coaster would scare them away.  The only
possibility might be a ``straw that broke the camel's back'' type of
thing.

Geoff ``Long live Silverwood!'' Allen

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From: acb@moscom.UUCP (Amy Bourquin)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: Darien Lakes Roller Coasters?
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:51:05 GMT
Reply-To: acb@moscom.UUCP (Amy Bourquin)
Organization: Moscom Corp., Pittsford, NY

In article <mmaccorm.26@fox.nstn.ns.ca> mmaccorm@fox.nstn.ns.ca (Mike Mac Cormack) writes:
>I am leaving on Sunday to attend a music festival (Kingdom Bound 92) at 
>Darien Lakes (New York) and I am wondering about the roller coasters at 
>Darien Lake.  The only coasters I have been on are the one's at Canada's 
>Wonderland.  I just finished reading the post on roller coaster record 
>holders and I noticed that the Predator (Darien Lake) ranked 8th, while the 
>Vortex (Wonderland) was way down there (I can't recall the exact 
>position).  What about the other roler coasters at Darien Lake?  How many 
>are there and what are they like?  Thanks in advance.
>

 The two roller coasters at Darien Lake are the Predator as you mentioned
 which is New York state's largest wooden roller coaster. I have not been
 on it. The other roller coaster is the Viper which is goes up side down.
 It takes you to the top of a large hill then goes up to  an upside down
 part that just doubles back on it self. It has some good bank turns and a
 double corkscrew. It has an underground tunnel. I am no expert so
 I may not have the lingo right. The Viper is fun. The Predator is 
 fairly new, about three years old. I suggest you do  most of the
 rides on Thursday and Friday at KB '92. They will be much less crowded     
 then.

 Amy B.
From: kimmel@epx.cis.umn.edu (Eric Kimmel)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: Any good roller-coasters around Minneapolis?
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:08:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <1559@sousa.ltn.dec.com> buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com () writes:
>>
>>The mall is big enough to hold Batman The Ride, too.  Oh well.
>
>You're ALL missing the point!!!
>
>While MoA is big enough to hold a major ride, like a B&M Inverted
>Looper, or an Arrow Multi-Element, that will never happen, as the
>amusement park in the MoA is a KIDDIE PARK!!!  The ride is mild 
>because it was designed with Children in mind (as was the rest of
>the park).  I mean, c'mon people, put it into perspective here!!
 
You're right.  The park is a kiddie park.  However, the height requirement
on the ride is the same as for Batman and most other multi-element coasters.
So they miss out on the little kids who can't ride it, and the big kids
(us) who think it's incredibly boring!  It's doomed!

>You sound like the kind of person who compares a Vekoma ROLLER
>SKATER coaster to an Arrow something-or-other!
 
But of course!!! :-)
 
>B.

-Rick
From: m_beavis@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (Bringer of Death)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Please Help
Date: 15 Aug 92 15:08:17 GMT
Reply-To: m_beavis@csd.bristol-poly.ac.uk
Organization: Bristol-Polytechnic

Hi all

I am a coaster fan in the uk.  I have done a fair few coasters over here (much
to my bank
managers stress). and now I am saving my pennies to got to US for a coaster
holiday.
This has got to be one of the most FAQ's in this group but what i need is for
some kind
soul to mail me or post information on the best to ride or even a plan of action
they have
used and found sucessful.

I am VERY poor so I don't want to waste what little money I have.  Sorry if this
has been
asked for before but I only dicovered this group last week (kicking myself as i
type).

Any help is welcomed.

Thanks in advance.


Matt.

Ps. I have read glossey Holiday mags, what i need is the truth.  8-)
From: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: Please Help
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:30:43 GMT
Reply-To: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

Yesterday, I wrote:

>>Once you get to Cedar Point, you could also take Greyhound to Kings Island, 
>>about 2-3 hours south of Cedar Point. This would cover two of the best 
>>parks in the U.S.

>Well, it would certainly cover two of the BIGGEST park in the USA,
>but arguably, two of the "BEST" parks in the USA.


Well, not to be so overtly negative, without even offering a 
suggestion...

OH is a good base ... you have KI, CP, Geagua Lake, Americana, and 
Wyandot there.  Also chock-full-o-coasters is California.  Great
coasters in San Diego (Mission Beach), then in the LA area -- 
Six Flags Magic Mountain, Disneyland, Knott's Berry Farm, and
more north, Great America and Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk.


Other noteworthy cities in the US:

Denver, CO -- Lakeside Amusement Park
           -- Elicth Gardens

Richmond, VA -- King's Dominion
             -- Busch Gardens Williamsburg

Pittsburg, PA -- Kennywood
	      -- Conneaut Lake Park
From: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: Paramount Pictures?
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:00:16 GMT
Reply-To: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

FYI & FWIW...

This week's Amusement Business magazine confirms earlier NET
reports of "Star Trek -- The Ride" at KI.

      _    /|
      \'o.O'
      =(___)=   Aack!!!
         U


B.
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From: kimmel@epx.cis.umn.edu (Eric Kimmel)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: Any good roller-coasters around Minneapolis?
Date: 15 Aug 92 14:24:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <1992Aug13.163231.15150@news.media.mit.edu> maglione@media.mit.edu (Tom Maglione) writes:
>In article <1520@sousa.ltn.dec.com> kristy@dssdev.enet.dec.com (Kristy S. Gleason (Woobie)) writes:
>>
>>I don't know if the coasters are good, but isn't there a *HUGE* mall that just 
>>opened in the Twin Cities yesterday?  There are supposedly a bunch of rides and
>>such.... the article I read in the newspaper didn't mention any names of any of
>>the rides, but it did say that there were coasters....
>>
>>*shrug*  Good luck!
>>
>>-- Kristy
>
>Hi Kristy and other enthusiasts,
>	I have a press clipping showing construction earlier this year; in
>it there is a shot of trackage looking similar to the Jet Star varitey. If
>I recall correctly, the ride is kind of a scenic railway type, with no
>inversions, probably a mild version of Zambezi Zinger (Worlds of Fun,
>Kansas City, Missouri) or The Whizzer (Great America, Gurnee, Illinois).
>I haven't heard if the ride is up and running, and I don't know of anyone
>yet who has ridden it. Anyone else out there have more info? How about
>the MN locals?
>
Yes, there is a coaster there.  I forget the name, but it's quite boring.  It
has a TOTAL vertical drop of about 50 feet and I doubt any section of it has
a drop > 30 degrees.  You go up, slowly ride around the inside of mall and
then it's over.  They don't take you to the ceiling and drop you down to the
floor then into some loops.  It has polyeurethane wheels and is very quiet.
Paul Bunyans Log Ride looks quite a bit more fun.  At least it drops you
more than 20 feet at a time.

The mall is big enough to hold Batman The Ride, too.  Oh well.

>keep on coastin',
>Tom.

-Rick>
From: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: The SFGAm --> SFGAd connection
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:06:44 GMT
Reply-To: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

>If as stated from several sources are true that Great America, 
>Santa Clara is getting a unthemed version of Batman next year
>I'd be surprised if Magic Mountain gets a themed one in 1994.
>I say this because even though they are 450+ miles apart I would
>think that they would be to close together for identical rides.

Well, Great America in Santa Clara AND Knott's Berry Farm in 
Buena Vista BOTH have a Schwarzkopf Shuttle loop, and those
two parks are bout the same distance as KECO-GA --> SFMM.


B.
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From: maglione@media.mit.edu (Tom Maglione)
Subject: Re: Any good roller-coasters around Minneapolis?
Summary: Mega-mall coaster.
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:32:31 GMT

In article <1520@sousa.ltn.dec.com> kristy@dssdev.enet.dec.com (Kristy S. Gleason (Woobie)) writes:
>
>I don't know if the coasters are good, but isn't there a *HUGE* mall that just 
>opened in the Twin Cities yesterday?  There are supposedly a bunch of rides and
>such.... the article I read in the newspaper didn't mention any names of any of
>the rides, but it did say that there were coasters....
>
>*shrug*  Good luck!
>
>-- Kristy

Hi Kristy and other enthusiasts,
	I have a press clipping showing construction earlier this year; in
it there is a shot of trackage looking similar to the Jet Star varitey. If
I recall correctly, the ride is kind of a scenic railway type, with no
inversions, probably a mild version of Zambezi Zinger (Worlds of Fun,
Kansas City, Missouri) or The Whizzer (Great America, Gurnee, Illinois).
I haven't heard if the ride is up and running, and I don't know of anyone
yet who has ridden it. Anyone else out there have more info? How about
the MN locals?

keep on coastin',
Tom.
From: geoff@pmafire.inel.gov (Geoff Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Sky Diver (Re: Silverwood Theme Park, Athol, Idaho)
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:27:01 GMT
Organization: Computer Nerd (is that redundant?), WINCO, INEL, Idaho

dmk@noho.Eng.Sun.COM (David Kahn) writes:
>
>OK, I'll bite, can somebody please describe Sky Diver?

I'll try.  If you've seen one, you should figure it out rather quickly;
if not, this may make little sense.

The Sky Diver is a ``spinning'' type ride seen often at carnivals.  It
consists of a rather large ferris-wheel type structure, with cars in
which two people can sit side-by-side.  The cars are totally enclosed
and are tangential to the circuference of the wheel.  Each car has a
pivot at the front and back.  There is a wheel inside the car, which
allows the rider(s) to spin the car while the (big) wheel goes around. 

The result is a ride that won't make you barf, but is a load of fun and
*will* make you fly all around the car and lose everything in your
pockets.  (There is a padded lap bar, but unless your thighs are
*really* huge, it won't be doing anything but limiting your flying
around the car.)  I found it the most fun when I could get the car
spinning on the down trip, so I was rotating wildly while heading
striaght down, then finally end up zooming through the loading platform
while upside down.  Great visual effect!

Geoff ``Hardly experienced enough to be an expert, but I fake it well'' Allen

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From: cheri@decoy.uucp (24473-stead)
Subject: Re: Great Adventure Dates
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: nj
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 13:52:19 GMT

Hi,

I'm not sure of the exact dates (my schedule is at home), but Great 
Adventure is open daily through early/mid September, and weekends through
the end of October.  I believe they open at 10am, but closing times vary.
The later in the season you get, the likely it will be around 8pm.  That's
usually o.k., since in late September/October they're not very crowded,
so you have lots of time to ride [as opposed to summer, when they're open
late, but you spend *hours* in line for a single ride].

Enjoy!!

-- Cheri

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