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From: acdendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY)
Subject: Re: Some comments
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
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Date: 10 Nov 1992 19:21 EST  

In article <1dilgtINNf3q@agate.berkeley.edu>, grantham@beirut.berkeley.edu (Jon Grantham) writes...
>It may be heresy to say this, but a good reason not to have a national
>playoff system is that it's just not that important.  College football
>should be done for the advantage of the players and schools involved.  It's
>not clear that there'd be an advantage, and I think there'd be a
>disadvatnage, if you destroyed the bowl system in the process.

But that's not necessary.

> 
>Now, you may say, "what about basketball?"  Well, the NCAA tournament is
>the bowl system of college basketball.

So, why can't the bowl system be the tournament of college football?

>  It a) has a certain amount of
>tradition & b) allows many schools to participate.  You can't have a
>realistic football championship without restricting it to 2 or 4 teams.
>Even at 4, you'd probably have to destroy the bowl system.

Not necessarily.  Here's the scenario I'd like to see.

Currently, roughly 38 teams get bowl bids.  Thus I propose a 32 team 
tournament.  The current season ends on Nov 28 for most teams (except for 
the Army-Navy game).  A 32 team tournament would include 31 games over five 
weeks.  Within the EXISTING bowls, a playoff could be structured as follows
:

Dec 5:	Alamo Bowl, Las Vegas Bowl, Copper, Aloha, plus 12 new or revived 
Bowls

Dec 12: Freedom, Independence, Liberty, Hancock, Gator, Holiday, Peach, 
Hall of Fame

Dec 19: Citrus, Blockbuster, Fiesta, and Sugar

Christmas Day: Orange and Cotton

New Year's Day: Rose Bowl for the National Championship

The Championship Game could be rotated among the Big 4.  As far as bids go, 
there are only 6 fewer offered, and most years there are several very 
borderline teams going to bowls anyway.  There would be automatic bids for 
conference winners, just like in basketball, so MAC and Big West teams have 
a shot at it just like anybody else.  That makes 10 automatic bids, leaving 
22 at large invitations.  The sequence of bowls could be tailored 
regionally, again like the basketball tournament.

This preserves the tradition of the bowls, preserves the tradition of New 
Year's Day, and still determines a true National Champion.  And as far as 
money goes, I have to think there's more to be made in a system like this 
than what we have now.


R Dendy
From: kevin@poincare.WPI.EDU (Kevin King)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: National Championship
Date: 5 Nov 1992 21:33:36 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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Keywords: Washington #1
Originator: kevin@poincare.WPI.EDU


There's such endless debate about having a national playoff.
Why don't they use a selection committee, as in basketball to
select 8 teams (seeding them from #1 to #8) who are in their opinion 
the best. I don't think picking the winner of each conference is fair
because it may leave out some of the best teams (e.g. there are 3 Big
East teams in the top ten this week).  Have the playoffs be something 
like this:
(I suppose which bowls get which games depends on how much MONEY 
   they are willing to spend)

Quarterfinals:
      CITRUS, FIESTA, COTTON, SUGAR

Semifinals:
      ROSE, ORANGE

Final:
      NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP (played in ??)

This proposed playoff would add only 3 games to the schedule.  If 
the NCAA forced every team to have a 11-game season (no kickoff classics
or extra games for the WAC) then the most anyone would play is 14 
games which is only two games than normal.  (Some teams, such as 
N.C. State this year are going to play in 13 games anyway.)

Of course, there will be the usual controversy about who didn't get
picked but fear not, these teams can go and play in the NIT of college
football--the other bowls.  Gator, Peach, Blockbuster, etc.  This 
would give the same amount of teams postseason play and still be able
to determine a national champion.  Think of the matchups this year, in
terms of our own poll as of this week.

Washington vs. Boston College  (Even though I'm a BC fan I'd have to go
                                                              with UW)
Alabama vs. Nebraska           (Alabama.)

Miami vs. Texas A&M            (Miami. Texas A&M has played NO ONE) 

Michigan vs. Florida State     (This game would be sweet.  I'd go with
                                Florida State because of competition
                                they have played.)

This would leave:

Washington vs. Florida State    (Tough one to call, Washington by a few.)
            &
Miami vs. Alabama               (This could go either way, probably for Miami.)

Any combination of these four teams would be a great championship.
We, the fans would still get the same amount of bowls to watch during
late December and we'd get rid of the stupid way the polls determine the
champion.  I'm sure there are ways to improve the idea.  If you have some,
post them.


GO BC!! We'll win the Holy War!
Then watch out for Syracuse!

-Kevin King
From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Question: PAC-10 tie-breaker
Date: 11 Nov 92 22:47:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Nov11.012838.8971@netcom.com>, mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
> I jumped into this in the middle, but is there some reason you're
> excluding Arizona?  If Wazzou knocks off the Huskies and UA wins
> its final two (which shouldn't be a problem) then we get to watch
> the Desert Swarm on Hangover Day, no?

Yes. Even if WSU only manages a tie Arizona can go to the Rose Bowl if it
wins out. But remember, USC is a favorite this saturday...



			gln


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Subject: Pac Ten Preview and Pundit's Pool  (11-14-92)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 00:16:10 GMT

			  	  Conference	      All
				W  L T Pts  OP   W  L T Pts  OP
Washington                      5  1 0 151  59   8  1 0 238  90
Arizona                         4  1 1 118  66   6  2 1 204  77
Wash. St.                       4  2 0 146 130   7  2 0 261 190
Stanford                        4  2 0 103 106   7  3 0 215 169
USC                             4  2 0 132 108   5  2 1 183 149
Oregon                          3  3 0 121 131   5  4 0 217 174
California                      2  4 0 164 135   4  5 0 251 215
Arizona St                      2  4 0 118 117   4  5 0 200 167
UCLA                            1  5 0  65 154   4  5 0 154 185
Oregon St.                      0  5 1  72 184   1  7 1 147 311

Sorry for the really short preview this week, but work calls.  Here are the
pundit's picks at least:

Pundit			OSU/UW	WSU/ST	UA/USC	CAL/ASU	UCLA/UO
Gidi Avrahami		6/30	24/32	12/14	20/24	12/20
Bob Willers		10/34	10/20	9/13	16/24	13/24
William F Tell		14/42	13/28	17/6	21/24	10/24
Eric Arendts		10/35	24/27	16/10	21/24	13/23
Dave Bakken		3/27	21/24	10/14	14/17	10/28
Marc Tremblay		6/41	24/27	13/3	24/17	13/24
Greg Garbe		0/56	16/24	10/3	24/21	7/13
Cliff Slaughterbeck	7/41	28/27	14/10	23/17	17/16
Vegas Line		UW-34	ST-8	USC-2.5	ASU-2.5	UO-10.5


Current Standings in the Pac Ten Pundit's Pool:

Marc Tremblay:		31- 8-0	(3-2 this week)
Yong-Qin Lu:		29-10-0	(2-3)
Cliff Slaughterbeck:	32-13-1	(1-4)
Eric Jaderlund:		32-13-1	(2-3)
Eric Arendts:		27-12-0	(2-3)
Gidi Avrahami:		26-13-1	(2-3)
Greg Garbe:		20-11-0	(1-4)
Bob Willers:		26-19-1	(1-4)
---------------------------------------  not enough games to qualify (yet)
Brian Hiegel:		17- 8-0	(1-4)
William Tell:		16- 9-0	(1-4)
Dave Bakken:		 4- 6-0 (3-2)
Mark Choi:		 9- 2-0	no entry this week
Shaham Parrin:		 4- 2-0	no entry this week

Minimum 2/3 games necessary for qualifiying for the grand prize
of a hat given to the winner of pundits picks poll.
From: UCPL085@UNLVM.UNL.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: BIG 8 Bowl Speculation..
Date: 7 Nov 92 16:03:29 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska
NNTP-Posting-Host: unlvm.unl.edu

If NU beats KU then NU is on track for the Orange..
IF KU loses to NU but beats CU then KU to the Gator, John Hancock or Blockbuste
r.. CU to the Aloha..
If KU beats NU then NU possible Fiesta..
Of course mere speculation..
REM
From: tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Lee Corso's latest prediction
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:04:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov6.200447.15877
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1deb79INNdph@crcnis1.unl.edu> mcdowell@hoss.unl.edu (Scott McDowell) writes:
>In <1992Nov6.165646.6772@u.washington.edu> tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes:
>
>>For those of you who missed it, Lee Corso last night predicted that ... 
>
>>And it looked like he really pissed off Tom Osborne.
>can someone fill us in on the details?


Lee asked Dr. Tom, "How come you've never won a national championship?"

An obviously irritated Dr. Tom replies, "I guess for the same reason you've
	never won one, Lee."

[tension filled pause]

Dr. Tom says, "You know, everyone keeps telling me I can't win the big one."

GT
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From: C14577@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Debra Sullivan)
Subject: Re: AP top 10 remaining games, Syracuse road to the top
Organization: Motorola
Date: 11 Nov 1992 11:02:17 CST


The Chicago Tribune November 11 sports section gives a listing of the
bowl matchups as they see them.  They are saying syracuse's and BCs fate
fall in the result of this Saturdays game.  The winner of the game on
Sat. goes to the Fiesta bowl vs. the pac 10 runner up and the looser wil
go to the hall of fame bowl vs. tennessee.  Hope this offers some insigh
into the possible fate of both BC and Syracuse.  Of course i hope BC win
because i am a Boston College grad and am happy to see them do so well
this year, minus of course last weeks embarrassment.
Could someone though please tell me why PSU and Paterno don't like
Syracuse and would refuse to play them?
From: baze@carson.u.washington.edu (Behzad Khamneian)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Trouble at Huskyville
Date: 6 Nov 92 08:08:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov6.080847.20732
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

All you Cougar fans don't get too happy too soon.  The news channels around
here have been hootin' and hollering about Hobert, but unless the entire team
(mainly the coaching staff) has been found responsible, the only sanctions will
be personal punishment against Hobert.  Also, if the Huskies get penalized in
any way, they are gonna take out their frustrations on someone, and who better
than WSU?

Very unsportsmanlike of you WSU fan(s) to put ':-D' right after mentioning
suspentions and possible sanctions.  Let it be settled on the field.  It is
not good to assume that a team is going to get 'big-league' sanctions and
then jubliate after it.

With regards,

-Behzad
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From: doel@bae.bellcore.com (Michael Doel)
Subject: Re: The mood in Columbus about Cooper
Organization: Bell Communications Research
	<1992Nov10.212517.28866@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:22:53


Steve Casburn writes:
> Mike Doel writes:

> >I'd like to think that if the Buckeyes were able to go 9-3 that people would
> >lay off his case for awhile.
> 
>      Ah, Mike, you've been away too long. :-)

Tell me about it.


>                                              It's going to take a win over
> Michigan to save Cooper, and even then he might have to win the bowl game as
> well. And if Ohio State loses to Indiana, he's history.

If OSU loses to Indiana, you're probably right.  However, as long as we beat
the Hoosiers and finish 9-3, I still say he's back.  I bet the OSU
administration is still feeling snakebit from the Earle Bruce fiasco &
firing a coach after his best season (and a likely top 20 finish) just
wouldn't go over real well in the national media (nor should it).

At any rate, we may not have to worry about testing my prediction.  I give
us little or no chance to beat Michigan this year.  Also, at this point it
looks like we'll be second in the BigTen (again, assuming a win this
weekend).  That would land us in the Citrius Bowl and unless I'm mistaken,
that means either Florida or Alabama (SEC runner up).  We should be able to
at least play with Florida (though they'd probably have more of a homefield
advantage) but Alabama is much better than us.  Either way, OSU will have a
tough time finishing 9-3.

--
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444 Hoes Lane RRC 1B-209
Piscataway, NJ 08854

"For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat
 and wrong." - H.L. Mencken
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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Speed Bump for Michigan (was: "Re: Alabama better than Michigan")
Date: 6 Nov 92 11:02:58 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan

In article <1992Nov6.013412.29877@netcom.com> alc@netcom.com (Chris Stassen) writes:

   murphy@rock.enet.dec.com writes:
   > I think it is most interesting how quiet the OSU people have been while
   > we wait for the OSU-UM game.  

   It seems that OSU people do a lot more posting after a loss than after
   a win.  Our motto: "We'd rather call for the coach's head than woof."

   > But I think that OSU should be considered as at least a speed bump for
   > Michigan, 

   Well, Michigan looked invulnerable until last week, and we still don't
   know which OSU team will show up.  For now, I'm worried about Indiana;
   we play at their place and will be looking ahead to Michigan.

Chris, do you find it at all funny that a lot of Michigan fans will dismiss
OSU as a speed bump, but pin their title hopes on SU beating Miami? 

Bill
--
-------------------------------
	Bill Mangione-Smith
	billms@eecs.umich.edu
From: salas@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Miguel Salas)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: stat of the day
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:23:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: ra.BxIDID.zn
Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC


Washington Post 11-10-92


  

The NCAA Division 1-A football teams with the best regular season records
for three consecutive seasons during the last decade (1982-1991):


MIAMI      32-1-0     1985-87
MIAMI      32-1-0     1986-88
MIAMI      31-2-0     1987-89
OKLAHOMA   31-2-0     1985-87
BYU        33-3-0     1983-85
NEBRASKA   32-3-0     1982-84


SOURCES: World Features Syndicate; NCAA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett)
Subject: Re: Lee Corso's latest prediction
Reply-To: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett)
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:41:27 GMT

News-Software: NN 6.4.16

In <1992Nov6.123814.16693@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:

| In article <1deb79INNdph@crcnis1.unl.edu> mcdowell@hoss.unl.edu (Scott McDowell) writes:
| >In <1992Nov6.165646.6772@u.washington.edu> tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes:
| >
| >>For those of you who missed it, Lee Corso last night predicted that ... 
| >
| >>And it looked like he really pissed off Tom Osborne.
| >can someone fill us in on the details?
| 
| Too bad.  Lee deserves to get even after the way Osborne crushed his IU
| team something like 69-0 a long time ago... :^)

It was the Mo POINTS Sat..  Since the AP/UPI sent a message last week
that the final score is all they look at, every one was running it up.
Take no Prisoners football.  Maybe now that UW & UM aren't fighting for
one vote every week, things could get back to normal.  

Just win the game, statistic are for losers.
From: UCPL081@UNLVM.UNL.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Nebraska's rival is KU?
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 13:07:47 CST
Organization: University of Nebraska
NNTP-Posting-Host: unlvm.unl.edu

According to the CU fans, we must consider them a rival because of the goal-
posts coming down after the NU-CU game.  Well, for the KU game we stormed the
field and tried to tear'em down too (they were greased this time), but alas
we failed.  So, I guess KU is our rival now?  I don't hear any KU fans out
there saying that since we celebrated so much after the win over KU that we
are their rivals, but in CU's book I guess we are your rivals now KU.
 
Conrad R. Castaneda
U of Nebraska-Lincoln
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett)
Subject: Re: SEC East shoots itself in the foot
Reply-To: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett)
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 06:10:21 GMT

News-Software: NN 6.4.16

In <1992Nov5.175143.2485@b11.b11.ingr.com> mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell) writes:

| In article <Bx7F3G.ox@encore.com> jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Leaky" Fawcett) drips:
| >News-Software: NN 6.4.16
| 
| > Like the #17 it invited last year, that beat the SEC champ.  
| 
|     No point commenting on this one.  Your memory is far too short.

Like your memory that Bama was a breath away from beating Miami.
Only in your dreams.

| >  BTW, Miami beat the suds out of the Tide in the 1990 Sugar Bowl.
| >  Alabama coach Bill Curry stated that Bama " Never had control of the 
| >  game, and Miami's got to be # 1."  The next morning, the voters of
| >  the AP/UPI agreed with Curry and made Miami the National Champ.
| 
|     Cling to this tightly and don't expect a repeat.  Oh, and have
| Gino spend a lot of time before the game looking at the field. 
| He'll see plenty of the Superdome roof during the game.

We both got a few game first.  Watch out for Florida, they are the
third ranked team (AP/USA) in the state of Florida.  We don't want Bama to fall
down and get a boo boo.  Then we will be in the Cotton. 

|    Impressive indeed.  Miami was a ~21-point favorite as well,
| weren't they?  Margin of victory:  8 points.  Not so impressive.

Stats are for losers.
From: c60b-3gi@web-3b.berkeley.edu (Arvind Saxena)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Is this really true?
Followup-To: poster
Date: 6 Nov 1992 21:23:41 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
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Keywords: Bowl game,Pulan Weedeater Bowl

In article <1992Nov6.045027.5533@cs.uoregon.edu> elliott@majestix.cs.uoregon.edu (Elliott E. Lee) writes:
>In article <Bx9zxA.C9@news.cso.uiuc.edu> sas37147@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott A. Splater) writes:
>>I've joked about the Toilet Bowl, the Dust Bowl, the Soup Bowl, and
>>all of that.  Everyone knows those don't exist.  But is there really
>>a Pulan Weedeater Bowl for NCAA Division I teams?  What I have heard
>>is that it is in Shreveport, Louisiana, and it is on the 26th of
>>December.  Could anyone either verify this, or tell me that it is just
>>another joke?  Thanks.
>>
>>Scott Splater
>
>I know there's an Independence Bowl in Shreveport and probably like every
>other bowl except the Rose, the name was bought by some big company.  Of
>course there's the John Hancock bowl and I think the others have corporate
>names appended to them.  
>

Yup.  It was originally called the Independence Bowl.  Then Pouhlan/Weedeater
sponsored it, hence the change of name (to Poulhan/Weedeater Independence Bowl.
Btw, the local media refers to it the I-Bowl.  Kinda disrespectful, I think.
In any case, I've never seen other bowls abbreviated as the S-Bowl, C-Bowl, 
O-Bowl, R-Bowl, etc.

>I bet they have the most well-kept field of all the bowls!

NOT!!!   It sucks, actually.  The local (Shreveport) Airline High School
football team plays on it (Independence Stadium) as their regular home stadium.
The seats in Independence Stadium suck, too.  They're mostly all the cheap
metal bleacher-type.

Just my 2 cents.

-- Arvind Saxena
Go 49ers!!
Go [Berkeley] Bears!!
Geaux Saints!!
Go Ruston High School Bearcats!!  (beat Airline)

















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From: quay@engin.umich.edu (bryan scott luedy)
Subject: Re: Brooks for Heisman
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 06:57:17 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <1992Nov10.041320.22830@news.nd.edu> rszczerb@neumann.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba) writes:
>If the Heisman is really supposed to be given for an individual's
>performance during a season, then Reggie Brooks definitely has
>to be considered among the front runners.
>
>He's got 1038 yards on 125 carries for an incredible 
>season average of 8.3 yards per carry.  In comparison,
>Faulk has 6.5 yards/carry and Hearst has 7.9 yards/carrie.
>Brooks also has 10 touchdowns.
>
>On top of all this, he posted these numbers while having to
>split time with All American Candidate Jerome Bettis and
>other Irish backs.  He's the first Irish back to gain
>1000+ yards in the Lou Holtz era.
>
>I'd like to hear some other opinions on this.
>
>		- Rob
>
>
Well, there are several good running backs this year.  A couple are
even passing Faulk's numbers.

But as was previously mentioned, the Heisman is for the outstanding
player.  Brooks is just one of many good ones.  Such is the level
of competition this year.

--
Bryan.Luedy@um.cc.umich.edu
--
From: elliott@sisters.cs.uoregon.edu (Elliott E. Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Alabama and Miami, setting it straight
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:36:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Nov12.203605.8253
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.

In article <1992Nov12.181540.5154@b11.b11.ingr.com> mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell) writes:
>In article <BxIq14.1Hr@encore.com> jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Chicane" Fawcett) writes:
>>News-Software: NN 6.4.16
>>
>>In <1992Nov6.231312.27332@b11.b11.ingr.com> mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell) writes:
>>
>>| 
>>|     Alabama and Miami have met 14 times.  Alabama has won 11 and lost 3 in
>>| the series.  Miami wins came in 1954 at Miami (Alabama finished 4-5-2), 1955
>>| 
>>True a long time ago Miami was bad, and Bama was very good.  
>
>    Not so long ago actually.  Football *was* played for quite some
>time prior to the decade in which Miami figured the game out.  I did
>notice that you didn't mention the more recent Miami losses in the
>home and home series that was played and that Alabama cancelled out
>of fear of an opponent thay dominated.
>
>>|    So, it is clear that Alabama would be scared to play a team they have so
>>| thoroughly dominated.  Perhaps we caught too much criticism about playing a
>>| patsy and that is why the series was stopped.  Or, perhaps Miami asked for it
>>| to be stopped for mercy's sake?
>>
>>So Miami is a patsy.  Let's talk the last ten years.  This is a list of
>
>    Unseen sarcasm again I guess.  During the time that Miami and
>Alabama played each other regularly, Miami never won.  Now, what
>should I have called them, a powerhouse?  As I stated, a team would
>have been crazy to cancel a sure win off of their schedule.  The
>*still* unanswered question is, where is there proof that Miami has
>attempted, and Alabama refused, to play a home and home series
>again?  Only in the much-worn blanket statement that all SEC schools
>are afraid to schedule Miami.  Considering the source, as well as
>the total lack of factual support, you have no case.

Why didn't Miami join the SEC instead of the Big East? They're certaainly
closer to the SEC than the Big East.  And probably more competitive too.
Was that a major mistake on Miami's part or do they just want some easy(er)
wins?  

-- 
Elliott Lee
elliott@cs.uoregon.edu
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