HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Rant, etc
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:56:43 GMT

leighann@sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey Oster) writes:

>What do you all consider the minimum reasonable displacement for highway
>riding?

Personally, I'd say 1200cc, but I know folks that have done it on 950cc
less. :-)

My problem is that I'm too tall to fit on little bikes. If the beast is
big enough to be comfortable, and has enough power, ride it.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: -- TEST --
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:30:15 GMT

In article <92210.160812ATONI@ESTEC.BITNET> <ATONI@ESTEC.BITNET> writes:
|Can anyone see this test-message ..

No.

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mfisch@pdx064.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Matthew Fisch)
Subject: Re: FJ vs. ZX engine mods
Reply-To: mfisch@ichips.intel.com
Organization: Workgroup Computing Division, PDX, Intel	
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 01:28:38 GMT

In article <3880093@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>, gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme Harrison) writes:
|> Hopefully, for the 1993 model year, the new top-of-the-line Triumph sport
|> bike which is a 170-mph version of the Triumph Trophy 1200 Inline 4 might
|> provide some competition for FJ1200 and ZX-11 owners. According to a mole
|> at the Triumph factory that 1200 produced 156bhp, but engine is too peaky
|> so they're refining it. Nonetheless, Motorcyclist/Sept has it that those
|> new Triumphs reportedly will commence distribution in U.S. for 1993 altho
|> I don't know whether that's for this fall or after Xmas. On that basis,
|> it would be interesting to see how those Triumphs compare as stockers and
|> in terms of potential vs the current ZX-11s, etc. Right now the best that
|> we can do is speculate and that's not quite good enough! ;-)  
|> 
|> Graeme Harrison, DoD#0649

  Better be soon since the '93 ZX-11 is reputed to have some outrageously
high speed figures (over 180 mph).  If anybody can do it, Kawi can ! 


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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: spgo@is.morgan.com (Stefan Goellner)
Subject: Re: Your Favorite Gear
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:27:53 GMT

In article <Bruovt.CuL@gtsi.com>, rich@gtsi.com (Richard Lawrence) writes:
|> In article <14me4cINNo9d@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@East.Sun.COM writes:
|> >In article 711838092@convex.convex.com, daved@convex.com (David Dorfman) writes:
|> >>The question is, What is your Favorite Gear:
|> >>
|> >>Clearly FIRST Gear is the best gear. Are there any other opinions?
|> >
|> >Second.  Without a doubt.  First revs too high, too fast.  First is
|> >only good for squid wheelies off the line.  Second is the domain of the
|> >power wheelie.  Second is the gear that slowly pushes your butt to the
|> >back of the bike.  In second, you can hear/feel/watch the rpms climb
|> >through the whole range.
|> 
|> I'll second that on second. :-). Second is my favorite. Second is the gear
|> that shocks you sometimes even after you're really used to the bike. Second
|> is wear you get some GUTS behind the pull. Second is a Real Man (tm) gear 
|> on a dirt bike for tricky technicals - only wimps resort to first.
|> 
|> >And third.  Third is nice in the twisties.  Third is where you gear
|> >*way* down for that really tight curve.  Third is where you feel that
|> >magical transition from loading down the forks braking in, to
|> 
|> Third is where the asshole crowding your lane in the (IROC/Porsche/Miata/
|> insert yuppie mobile of choice) learns the true nature of thrust to weight.
|> Third is where the engine really growls as it climbs past 5K. Third is the
|> last of the Truly Fun gears. After Third, well, there's fourth. Sigh. Fourth
                                                                         ^^^^^^
|> is a pull up to highway speeds gear.
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

? I thought that was first. Ok, maybe second :-)

Stef
    DoD#0190			     spgo@is.morgan.com
  212-703-2682		        	914-993-0814
'82 KZ550 (Commuter)		'84 750 Interceptor (Canyon Carver)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Cops show- Motorcycle wreck
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:14:13 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.203602.214@halfdome.sf.ca.us> laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.212405.6601@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston) writes:
>
>> know nothing's coming.  all you need is one young female with her lights
>> off and you're paying the price for running the stop :-) 
>
>you know, i guess i'm going to have to flame you for this.  statistics
>collected in the past fifteen years by car insurers (and their
>statistics are damn well done when corporate profits are on the line)
 
Yea and Mother Theresa is an insurance lobbyist.
 
>female drivers lately, enough; go chat on your car phones or
>something.  you're 8 times more likely to be doing that while driving
>than a femme. 
> 
>-- laurie

Probably eight times more likely to have a job to pay for the
car phone also.
 
================================================================================
 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: "cute" dealer names (Was: Combined dealerships)
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:58:30 GMT

(So, how fast can we mutate a thread and subject line anyways?)

randy@ninja.megatek.uucp (Randy Davis) writes:

>  The "Fun Bike Center" here in San Diego sells Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki, AND

How about dealer names? I like "Cycle Logical", and here in Utah there's
one called "Big Boy's Toys", sexist perhaps, but truth in advertizing. :-)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: More Helmet Stuff
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:37:20 GMT

In article <4375@prcrs.prc.com> terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham) writes:
|
|If you screw up because you did not use common sense and made a
|'personal choice', I don't see why I have to pay.  Either you pay
|whatever premiums it takes for appropriate coverage, or society
|will defend itself with mandatory safety laws.

I agree that if someone is taking risks without sufficient financial protection
(through insurance, or being very rich), they are mooching from society.  But
rather than restricting the right to take risks, the government should be treating
it like a private person would.

If someone, through carelessness, personally costs me money (drives through my
front porch with their car, for instance), I will fix the porch, and recover the
money it cost me through legal means.  It is a personal thing, between me and 
the idiot.

Why can't the government take the same route? The government is wasting it's time 
with ineffective helmet laws, when they could be bringing suit and garnishing the
wages of any person that cost them money through his own carelessness.  

I think that the government (that's you and me) *should* pay for emergency treatment 
for an injured person, if needed, but should definitely try to get the money back.
Certainly not everyone would be able to pay, ever, but many would.  It would
certainly be more effective, and cheaper, than helmet laws.

In a world like that, you could certainly go lidless if you choose, but if you
don't have insurance, and get hurt, you'll pay.

(That isn't to say that I don't think there are problems with the insurance system
or the medical care system, but those are separate issues.)

Dave Svoboda (rubis@gagme.chi.il.us)        | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmmmm)             |  this weird shit
No ratbike at the moment.  Suggestions?     |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905      DoD #0330    COG 939        |   -- Evo Woman
From: carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Your Favorite Gear
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:38:58 GMT
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

In article <14me4cINNo9d@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@East.Sun.COM writes:
>In article 711838092@convex.convex.com, daved@convex.com (David Dorfman) writes:
>>The question is, What is your Favorite Gear:
>>
>>Clearly FIRST Gear is the best gear. Are there any other opinions?
>
>Second.  Without a doubt.  First revs too high, too fast.  First is
>
>And third.  Third is nice in the twisties.  Third is where you gear

I half-agree with Ed :-)

Third gear.  On a proper motor (90-degree pushrod V-twin), this is
your all-purpose gear; good for most everything and excellent for
lower-medium-speed twisty roads.  Anything from a quiet rumble through
small-town 25mph speed zones (at 35mph and ~2000 rpm) to full-throat
roar around the curves, headed for the 5000-rpm redline and 65mph.
Keep it in the powerband like that and it'll do whatever you ask of
it, and sound good doing it.  Around town on a Hog, you practically
don't need any other gear.  Third gear is my favorite.

Fifth gear is nice, though.  Top gear, throttle locked open at 3500rpm 
doing about 75mph, feet up on the highway bars, leaned back into a
comfortably warm companion, elbows comfortably bent, engine smooth as glass.  
Nothing but sunset on the horizon, headed for home after five days and
1500 miles, no schedule, full tank of gas.  Fifth sounds good, rides
smooth, gives you enough power to pass on highways, and maximizes your
gas mileage.  Fifth gear is nice, too.
--
Carl Paukstis, RRR&RSG           | "Good men must not obey the laws too well"
 ISC-Bunker Ramo / Spokane, WA   |    -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
 Phone: +1 509 927-5439          |  
 Mail: carlp@frigg.isc-br.com    |  My employer accepts no responsibility...
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Confirmation of what we already knew
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 29 Jul 92 10:26:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059


-> >->      - Likely to label motorcycle riders as deviant; andd

-> > Well, I don't care for deviants either.

-> And having a XJ900 turbo isn't deviant?


 What's deviant about that?

 It's all those normally aspirated folks who are deviant.  And they're
all marching out of step, too!

=======================================================================
can you help me...help me get out of this place?...slow sedation...
ain't my style, ain't my pace...giving me a number...NINE, SEVEN, EIGHT
(Nazareth)               XJ900 TURBO at 15psi          DoD# 978  KotFAQ
=======================================================================
From: kcchu@gandalf.rutgers.edu (The Beach Bum)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Help with oil leak!
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:46:21 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


From: mulman@hmcvax.claremont.edu (Mike Ulman)

>Hello!
>
>I'd like some advice:
>
>very sluggish and won't surpass 55 mph.

Very Dangerous!  If you were in Jersey you would get run over.  With
no pick up you are at a severe disadvantage and may get squashed by
the first inpatient Cager assh*le at a traffic light.

>I'd like to replace the head gasket but it seems like a very big job for a
>novice since everything has to be removed to get to it. The only maintanence

Shouldn't be a problem if you have a good set of tools and a service
manual.  I just did the valves on my EX500 with out much else besides
that. I did have one of my friends over who was a Cage mechanic over
that weekend, but he was at the beach so I did it all myself. (It was
a good backup plan though.  

Since the gasket is already leaking I wouldn't count on being able to
use gasket again.  I was able to, went to the autoparts store and got
a tube of silicon gasket sealer.  So get another gasket, some sealer
and follow the directions in you manual. To save you some trouble,
read all of the directions and become familiar with all of the parts
first.  Once you identify them, you maybe able to skip over removing a
few parts here and there .  I was able to leave on about 3 major parts
while doing my valves. 
>
>Has anyone done similar jobs on their bikes? Does anyone have ANY
>advice on the
>repairs? How dangerous is it not to repair it quite yet (in terms of damage to
>the bike and accidents - power failure)? Do you think that I can do the repair
>myself? How long would it take to do the job (I'm going away for August and
>when I return school starts = p-chem and homework from)?

1-read the above.
2-Very dangerous not to repair for all of your stated reasons.
3-You can definately repair it yourself.
4-Plan on 1 weekend day.  (This allows you some time.) Get the gasket
and start on a Sat. MORNING.  This will allow you to get any parts if
anything small gets broken or if you need another gasket etc.

>Mike

Good Luck,
Keith
-- 
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Keith Chu	Rutgers University	Computing Services
KCHU@pisces.rutgers.edu			DoD#379
KCCHU@remus.rutgers.edu		Dress to slide, not to ride
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com (Mark Slagle)
Subject: Re: Justice!
Reply-To: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com
In-reply-to: jeq@i88.isc.com's message of 23 Jul 92 17:00:04 GMT
Organization: You wouldn't ask this if you'd seen my desk.
	<1992Jul23.054917.26421@cs.cornell.edu>
	<1992Jul23.170004.22791@i88.isc.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 00:29:44 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.170004.22791@i88.isc.com>, jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:

> How do you curl your hair in a car anyhow?  12V curling iron?

Arrange to have someone cut you off.  That
always curls my hair.
--
----
Mark E. Slagle                                 PO Box 61059
slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com                       Sunnyvale, CA   94088
408-756-0895                                   USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir)
Subject: Where is NOMEE's?
Keywords: Karen, lunch, greek greasy spoon
Organization: Stanford Exploration Project
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:51:08 GMT

HELP! I'm supposed to be lunching with Karen today at NOMEE's (?) in
Sunnyvale, and i don't know where the place is. I may have the name wrong.
Its a Greek burger joint. If you know, then please e-mail me ASAP at
francis@sep.stanford.edu

Thanks

F


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bbs.texx@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Tejas Wood)
Subject: worls most beutiful  hiway
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 07:39:07 GMT

i-280 is already classified as most beautifull hiway...signs prove it
runs from san francisco to san jose ca
-texx

--
Tejas Wood (bbs.texx@tsoft.sf-bay.org)
From: gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme Harrison)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 00:30:18 GMT
Subject: *Bratbikes*
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

Not too long ago (pre-CA helmet law) a kid wearing shades, shorts, tennis 
shoes and tank top was blipping the throttle of his 600 Katana which had
an aftermarket exhaust system on my street. The sound really pissed my
wife off and she said, "It's another one of those kids on their *Bratbikes*."

She struck a chord there, didn't she? A def candidate for DoD FAQ...

Graeme Harrison
DoD#0649
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: aki@nimbus@UUNET.UU.NET
Subject: Re: I want 2B DoD #1428
Organization: The World Bank
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 12:46:29 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.233715.14764@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil>
dsc3jfs@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Jim Small) writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.175800.19405@worldbank.org> aki@nimbus@UUNET.UU.NET
writes:
>>
>>BTW..ok I give up...just what the heck is a "Do"?????
>>
>Pronounced D-O
>
>Denizen Oder,  the smell of the Tepee of Legend (tm) after sunday
>        ^^^^

ah-hem ..that's ODOR..

>I just wanted to rub it in the faces of all you pansies who went to only
>ONE DOD event,  I'll have you know, I went to the JOUST, and the RCR.

so hand this guy a medal..some of us have a job to go to...

>
>Sorry to tell you this, West Coast people,  The east coast people where
>much more fun to be with (until Seth showed up, then wouldn't shut up),
>but you the West Coasters had much better cop stories (and none of them
>decided to be named "Dances with Fence")
>-- 

...uh ex-squeeze me...I'm an EAST COAST DoDer...

>I love the 3b2
>The 3b2 is my friend.
>
the disorientation must be from the old equipment you use ;)...
From: warkenti@CAE.Mitel.Com (BJ Warkentin)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Cops show- Motorcycle wreck
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:57:54 GMT
	<1992Jul20.160430.18221@javelin.sim.es.com>
Distribution: na
Organization: MITEL, Kanata, Ontario, Canada
In-reply-to: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com's message of 20 Jul 92 16:04:30 GMT

blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:

   Which makes the interesting point that locals are dangerous drivers
   because they drive by habit, instead of observing their surroundings.
   Never trust a cage, never trust a stopsign, never trust a stoplight.
   Yea, it's obvious, but it's probably worth repeating.

Drive defensively, drive invisibly, they can't see you since they drive
on automatic pilot with their brains' set to recognize only large land
yacht as objects worthy of avoiding... Bizzare but true.

The one defensive weapon worth adding to your bike is a LOUD horn.
After hearijng about the "dump truck" effect and a recent discussion
about air horns, I finally added a set. Installation was complete last
night and I already managed to road test it when I was out at lunch.
It is WONDERFUL having a brain dead lane changer snap out of his daze
and back into his lane and then look for the large truck occupying the
other lane rather than just ignoring the feeble pathetic beep my stock
horn was capable of, which probably could not even be heard over air
conditioner noise inside a closed up car.

Let drive careful out there...

BJ...warkenti@CAE.Mitel.Com    |   XJ650K and DoD#0255
Kanata, Ontario, Canada        |   I want a new toy...
I really didn't mean it quite that way, or did I :->
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: I want 2B DoD #1428
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:32:12 GMT

Michael B. Smith <MBS116@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>I would like to be ordained as Do #1428.
>Keeper of the List, Hear my prayers.

Ok folks, lets do this right. The line forms to the right, single file
please (don't want to get anyone caught in a cross-flame).
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: vijay@phaedrus.tcs.com (Vijay Manwani)
Subject: Info sought on 86 Yamaha RADIAN
Organization: Teknekron Communications, Inc
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:16:26 GMT

I'm making this request again 'cos I got just one response to a similar query I
posted a few days back. I am still trying to figure a general purpose first bike.
The RIADIAN seems like a nice choice for someone my size (5'9", 145 lbs). Any
positive, negative comments ???

Negative comments I've heard are
 1) The rear stock shocks aren't very good.
 2) The bike is low and meant for smaller riders.

Positive stuff
 1) Bulletproof engine, relatively maintainance free.
 2) Relatively light, well Balanced.
 3) Comfortable for long rides.
 4) Good for 60,000 miles

The bike I'm looking at has 20,000 on it.



Vijay.

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Combined dealerships (was Re: Harley riders waved !!!)
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:51:01 GMT

In Cedar Rapids, Iowa, there is a Harley/Suzuki shop (which was listed in Road Rider (?)
as one of the best dealerships in the US.  I have met the owner, and have rarely seen a
better Japanese/American perspective).

Motor Werks BMW/Suzuki, in Barrington, IL, uh, is.

And of course, many of the Japanese marque dealerships around here also handle 
Italian marques (Duc, Cag, MG, etc).  (When I was in the market for my current ride, 
I went into Illinois Kawasaki, sat on a 907ie for ten minutes, then walked across 
the room and bought my Concours. :-/ (It was downright mean of them to put the 
Ducatis in front. :-)

Dave Svoboda (rubis@gagme.chi.il.us)        | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmmmm)             |  this weird shit
No ratbike at the moment.  Suggestions?     |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905      DoD #0330    COG 939        |   -- Evo Woman
From: saidra@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Raoul Said)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: 1990 FZR600 tire recomendations?
Date: 27 Jul 92 09:11:27 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.


	Just wanted to know if anyone has a favorite set of brand and size
of tires for the 1990-92 FZR600.  I am looking to replace mine and want
good sport tires that won't melt away in 1000 miles.  I also want a wider
(bigger than 140/60) rear tire but am not sure how big I can go.  Any wisdom
out there?  Thanks.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dbidwa@sei.cmu.edu (Daniel Bidwa)
Subject: Re: Goodman HDS (was Re: Harley rider waved)
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:11:24 GMT

I sez:
> Well, if I had my druthers, I'd prefer that British bike that uses a HD
> V-2 (of course I can't remember the marque -- anyone remember?) over any of
> the V-2s in that article, or the Softail (20 feet away from what?).

Chuck Rogers (car377@cbnewsj.cb.att.com) sez:
>It's a Goodman HDS (Harley-Davidson Special).  I'd like mine with a
>Branch/Minton built XLH1200 engine, please.

Ah, yes, thank you, that's the name.
So, anyone had any experience with this pup? They're apparently being sold (to
some extent) in the U.S.; has anyone seen up up close and personal (in any
country)? 

Dan
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ne.forsale