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From: "glen mead" <glen.mead@canrem.com>
Subject: pioneer 6-disc magazines
Reply-To: "glen mead" <glen.mead@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:15:19 EST

cjm9321@hertz.njit.edu (The InfoMan) writes:

TI>	If the tuner has a aux in then you do not need an FM modulator.
TI>All you need to do is to take the signal from the changer (provided it
TI>is low-level) and connect it to the aux in. I assume when a wire is
TI>plugged into the aux in the radio or whatever is playing turns off and
TI>the aux in input is on.

Actually, the deck does have AUX ins but I was told that the CD changers
had a DIN connector of some sort which was not compatible with the line
level RCA jack AUX input on my friends deck.  Can the controllers be
purchased for these changers cheaply (without the RF modulator)?

Glen Mead - RZ/RD 500 Owners Group
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From: morlang@iastate.edu (Gregory A Morlan)
Subject: Sony Changers
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:33:16 GMT

I have had a Sond CDX15 changer with the modulator and remote
system.  The sound quality is very good even though it would be
much better directly through the tuner.  

As for playing discs with scratches, chips, etc..., I have had
very few problems with this.  The changer only skips on discs 
with serious scratches or chips which most likely have the information
missing on them.  I have found that if the disc wont play in the 
changer it wont play on any other CD player I have.

(intended for scheer@2.100   but my server couldn't find his host)


Hope this helped


Greg Morlan (morlang@iastate.edu)
From: jreiser@scott.skidmore.edu (Jason Reiser... Asleep)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: Wanted: Cd Player Maxima
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:38:17 GMT
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY

john_marousek@msmgate.mrg.uswest.com (John Marousek) writes:
> I have a 89 Nissan Maxima with a Bose factory stereo ( Sony & Bose)
> I would like to add a CD Player to the existing system. The dealer wants 
> $600 for a Factory CD Player. I have been having problems finding
> a straight CD player ( without tuner) for the car. The factory Tuner does
> not
> have CD Controls but does have preamp inputs for a CD Player.
> 
> ANY Suggestions appreciated
> 
> John

For recent Nissan vehicles including the Maxima and several Infinitys,
there is a DIN plug on the rear of the unit for a CD input (changer or
single play).  Wiring is as this...

 
           ---
         /  2  \
        /4     5\ 
       |1       3|
        \       /
         \     /
           ---
 
1. 12 volt trigger input (to switch to CD mode)
2. sends 12 volt out when tape/tuner is on (ignore for now... useful
for adding amps, etc.
3. signal ground input
4. Left signal input
5. Right signal input

				- Jason

  
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Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: bill@rchland.vnet.ibm.com ()
Subject: Re: Diversity tuners and the second antenna
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:25:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: bill@tran.fishkill.ibm.com ()
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In article <71776@cup.portal.com>, Berger@cup.portal.com (Mark - Berger)
writes:
> I have just lost a Sony 7500 head unit to a thief, and am now selecting 
> replacement equipment.  I like everything about the Sony except for what
> I feel is excessive multipath and such marginal tuner problems, so I am 
> considering one of the newer units with a diversity tuner.
> 
> Anyone have any experience comparing diversity and non-diversity (but 
> otherwise identical) tuners?
> 
> If I go for such a unit, what type of second antenna might I use, and where 
> should I put it.  I have an 88 Honda Accord with a factory antenna extending
> out of the left A-pillar.

yes, I had an acura integra with the a-pillar antenna. I don't think
that this is the best setup. It would seem to me (correct me if i'm
wrong) that an antenna works best when the ground plane is perpendicular
to the antenna. Thus, the Honda antennas already start with a disadvantage. 

I had a sony in the integra, and had terrible reception. when that head
unit finally died, i got a high end alpine (yes, i've seend all the
apline sucks stuff here, but mine has been absolutely rock solid during
the past 3 years, two cars, and 60000 miles) and the tuner performance
increased about 1000%. 

My present car had a factory diversity system in it, but the alpine
(finally installed!) blows this one away also. So, my advice is to skip
the diversity stuff (more of a marketing ploy, i think) and just go for
a unit with solid tuner performance.		

bill the cat....
From: ianb@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Ian Bennett)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:08:35 GMT
Subject: Pioneer MCD4000 advice...
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, CCSY Messaging Centre, UK.
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car

My friend is about to purchase a Pioneer autochanger
and controller MCD4000 (really KEH4000 + CDXM30 I
think). Any horror stories, compliments or general
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: demaine@ee.ualberta.ca (Cal Demaine)
Subject: Re: CLASS A/MOSFET
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:23:04 GMT

RYNA10@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Jay Kopycinski) writes:

>veloovet writes:

>>    I have a Bolt MOSFET car power amp for sale
>>    Here are some of the specifications:
>>        Class A...
>>        Full MOSFET power supply...

>You of course realize that "class A" refers to a type of
>power supply, and "MOSFET" refers to another type of
>power supply.  No one amp can be both!

>...Just thought I'd point this out...

>******** Not so....Class A refers to the bias point of the active devices
>in the amp.  A class A amp has the operating point set such that
>current in the output circuit flows at all times, and itoperates over
>the linear portion of its characteristic curve.  MOSFET is simply one
>type of active device, in this case a field effect transistor.
>Hope this is helpful..........
>Jay

Oh, I'm getting sick of this.  ANYWAY, I do believe that in many car-audio
circles, MOSFET refers only to the transistors used in the switching power
supply.  There are notible exceptions, of course.  But I won't note them.
Considering the unit, I would be surprised if it was anything but a MOSFET
power supply.

Secondly, this Class A is really getting to me.  Class A amps are almost
unknown in the home audio world, and, in car audio-land, completely
ficticious.  (This is if I remember correctly)  Considering the amount of
power they burn off as heat, they are completely unsuitable for car audio.

Ok, ok.  One company does make a megabuck, tubed, Class A car amplifier,
but we can probably safely ignore it's existance.

  - Cal

PS: I could be completely wrong on all of this.

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From: srw8050@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Pez)
Subject: Old Alpine Eq.
Reply-To: srw8050@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 15:37:11 GMT

I'm looking for information on an old pre-amp eq. model #3011 I 
believe.  I'm interested in knowing which wires go where.  None of the 
wires are tagged and I don't have the manual.  I purchased it used in the
hopes of being able to control my subs with it.  Anyone who can help
please send e-mail

Thank you
From: thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Can I run car stereo on battery charger?
Date: 16 Dec 92 15:55:12 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Hello all,

I have a Clarion 9772RT pull out car stereo tape/receiver.  I also have
a Kenwood 50x2 watt amp, and two Sony 6x9 speakers.  All of this equipment
is sitting in my room doing nothing (I won't have a car for a while).

I had an idea about how to use this car stereo equipment with the house
electricity (110 volt I guess).  Can I use a car battery trickle chargerer?
I can get a 10 amp one for $30.  Am I right in assuming that a 10 amp
charger charging at 12 volts (car voltage) will yield (10 * 12) 120 watts
of power before overloading?  I thought I heard that amps * volts = watts.
Is this true.  If it is, is this a safe way to run my car stereo on my
house current?  I could use a surge protector to prevent spikes.  Is there
anything that I should be warned about that might damage my equipment by
doing this?  

I await any responses.  Thanks.

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From: john_marousek@msmgate.mrg.uswest.com (John Marousek)
Subject: Wanted: Cd Player Maxima
XUserAgent: Nuntius v1.1
Organization: MRG
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Date: 11 Dec 92 22:06:46 GMT

I have a 89 Nissan Maxima with a Bose factory stereo ( Sony & Bose)
I would like to add a CD Player to the existing system. The dealer wants 
$600 for a Factory CD Player. I have been having problems finding
a straight CD player ( without tuner) for the car. The factory Tuner does
not
have CD Controls but does have preamp inputs for a CD Player.

ANY Suggestions appreciated

John
From: hhtra@usho72.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: Can I run car stereo on battery charger?
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:25:35 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <1992Dec16.155512.45695@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
|> Hello all,
|> 
|> I have a Clarion 9772RT pull out car stereo tape/receiver.  I also have
|> a Kenwood 50x2 watt amp, and two Sony 6x9 speakers.  All of this equipment
|> is sitting in my room doing nothing (I won't have a car for a while).
|> 
|> I had an idea about how to use this car stereo equipment with the house
|> electricity (110 volt I guess).  Can I use a car battery trickle chargerer?
|> I can get a 10 amp one for $30.  Am I right in assuming that a 10 amp
|> charger charging at 12 volts (car voltage) will yield (10 * 12) 120 watts
|> of power before overloading?  I thought I heard that amps * volts = watts.
|> Is this true.  If it is, is this a safe way to run my car stereo on my
|> house current?  I could use a surge protector to prevent spikes.  Is there
|> anything that I should be warned about that might damage my equipment by
|> doing this?  
|> 
|> I await any responses.  Thanks.

 I wouldn't do it.

 For about $25, get Radio Shack's 12V DC power supply thingy.
 I've used it to run car radios and cellular phones but not
 any hi-powered amps, though.

 TRAVIS
From: keys@starchild.ncsl.nist.gov (Lawrence B. Keys)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: How many remote leads?
Date: 17 Dec 92 13:34:26 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: National Institute of Standards & Technology

In article <17565@umd5.umd.edu> ui68@linus.umd.edu (Bill Kyte) writes:
>
>   I have a small question for the net.  How many leads can you run off of 
>the head units remote wire? I want to run two or three amps and don't know
>what to do with the other two remote leads from the amps.
>Anyone's help would be greatly appreciated.
>       Thank you
>                  -Bill


I had this same question a few weeks ago.  I contacted Denon, (i have a
Denon head unit) and they said that i could use the remote wire on the
two amps and one crossover that i had.  I also called the dealer that
i purchased the head unit from, and he said that generally speaking
they wouldn't use a remote lead for more than three accessories.  For
more than three they would use a relay.

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From: kevins@eng.auburn.edu (Kevin Sullivan)
Subject: Crossover question
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:06:04 GMT

Dig if you will the picture:

A 4 ohm tweeter with a 3.3 microfarad cap on the + terminal,
as a first order (6 dB/octave) high pass filter, -3dB cutoff
around 12kHz, right?

So I add this to my rear speakers of my van, but the tweeters 
are way too loud, relative to the woofer (yes I have a big hole 
in the midrange back there, the front speakers fill it in).  
So I put two 10 ohm 10 watt resistors in series with the cap, so 
I have:

amp + --------/\/\/\--------||--------- tweeter +
              20 ohm      3.3MFD
                                        (4 ohm)
amp - --------------------------------- tweeter - 

Does this not change my crossover frequency to 2000 Hz?  If so 
the system should sound terrible, but it sounds great (except 
for the lack of mids when running only the rear speakers).  What's 
going on here?

One more thing that might help or hinder analysis: this is the 
Chrysler/Infinity sound system, where low power speaker level 
signals are sent to the four corners of the vehicle.  This 
signal goes directly to the tweeter of a coaxial speaker and 
(in parallel) also to the input of a power amp for the woofer.  
There's a small amp on the back of each speaker.  Don't know 
the amp's input impedance but I'd guess pretty high relative 
to the tweeter.

Please help me figure this out.  It sounds great, I just don't 
want to blow the tweeters.
From: cjm9321@hertz.njit.edu (The InfoMan)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: pioneer 6-disc magazines
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:22:27 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <199214.4948.7689@dosgate> "glen mead" <glen.mead@canrem.com> writes:
>TM3Does anyone own that snazzy Pioneer "audio jukebox" that holds three
>TM36-CD cassettes?  (18 CD's total at one time)  I've been thinking abou
>
>On a related note, does anybody know if the Pioneer 6 disc magazines work
>in other manufacturers 6 CD units?  How about with car 6 disc changers
>other than Pioneer?  Also, a friend of mine has a cassette receiver in his

	NO. The way Pioneer made there magazines, the disc tray rotates
out, instead of sliding out. The newer Sony and Kenwood changers don't
have trays in there magazines.



>car with CD inputs (a Radio Shack model) and he'd like to add a 6-disc
>changer which is compatible with the cartridges from his Pioneer home 6 
>disc changer.  I believe the inputs are line level so he doesn't need the
>FM modulator (although he would need a controller) but the stores keep 
>telling him he does...any comments?  I'm new to them myself so please
>excuse me if these questions are painfully obvious to those who own these
>units.  Thanks in advance.
>
>Glen Mead - RZ/RD 500 Owners Group
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	If the tuner has a aux in then you do not need an FM modulator.
All you need to do is to take the signal from the changer (provided it
is low-level) and connect it to the aux in. I assume when a wire is
plugged into the aux in the radio or whatever is playing turns off and
the aux in input is on.



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Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: tpremo@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Todd Premo)
Subject: Help with remote turn on lead for amp...
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:35:11 GMT

Just a quick question:

      I have a slight problem.  I need remote turn on lead for my 
amp and do not know where to get it from other than the unit itself.
The factory head unit is being used and is far too confusing to find the
power antenna lead.  I have heard of people taking it off the ignition
but If I remember correctly this was advised against.

      Where else is a good place to take this from?


      Thanks,  


      Joe
      Thanks,  



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From: roys@sherpa.com
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Old car needs stereo
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:36:17 GMT
Organization: Sherpa Corporation, San Jose, CA

I bought a 1969 Oldsmobile 98 convertible a few months ago need to do
something about the stereo system.  It has the original 5 lb AM radio
with a speaker in the middle of the dash and another in the middle of
the rear seat.  I do not want to permanently damage any part of the car
and would like to leave the original radio in the dash.

I have put a 6x9 Infinity speaker in each of the original speaker
locations, a 2x30 Crutchfield Amp under the seat and use a Akai walkman
for the input.  This allows me to keep the original look of the car
but does not provide me with very good reception, nor does it provide
a balance feature, so the the front speaker is much louder than than
the rear from the front of the car.  It is also a little awkward to use.

Does anyone know of a way to put a reasonable stereo setup in a car
like this?  I know there are some CD trunk mounted systems with a remote
going to the front, do any of these have a radio with them?  Are any
of these under $500?  Is there a better method?

Thanks for your help

-Roy
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: jsalmi@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (John Salmi)
Subject: Billy Joel, Stormfront
Followup-To: rec.audio.car
Organization: U S WEST Information Technologies
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:21:09 GMT

just a miscellaneous note.  i was on my way home last night, and slid in billy
joel's 'stormfront' cd.  the 2nd cut, we didn't start the fire, has some nice
low notes.  surprised me.  and it caused enuf drain on the battery/alternator
to dim my lights @ 70 mph.  had to play it over a few times.  was sorta nice.

i hadn't listened to that cd for a year or so, and hadn't ever had it in 
the car.  it made my system go boom.  i like it.

*grin*

cheers,
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From: c60b-1hy@e260-1f.berkeley.edu (Albert Wu)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Recommendations for a cassette tuner
Date: 13 Dec 1992 22:27:59 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: e260-1f.berkeley.edu


Awhile back, I posted a message asking about the differences between
cassette tuners and cassette radios.  First of all, thanks to all the people
who replied.  You helped a lot.

Because of the help, I am now in the market to look for a cassette tuner,
and not a cassette radio.  I was wondering what are some good ones?  I
personally am looking towards something by Sony, Pioneer, Premier (but I
can't afford the KEX-M900), or Kenwood.  But if there are any other
recommendations, I'm willing to hear them.  Any advice would be greatly
appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Albert Wu
UC Berkeley - EECS
c60b-1hy@web.berkeley.edu


Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: yystg@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (STEVE GRAHAM)
Subject: Re: Does laser alignment really work?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 16 Dec 1992 09:54 EST  

In article <FILO.92Dec16001919@louie.cc.utexas.edu>, filo@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (John Filo) writes...
> 
>My CD player (a Sony, don't remember the model number off hand) in my car skips
>to a point of almost being unbearable.  I was wondering if having the laser
>aligned would help.  The impression I get from the few people I've talked to
>is that is generally doesn't solve the problem (I'm not counting the repair shops
>I called, all of which insisted that having it done would solve all my problem).
>I don't really want to shell out the 50 or so bucks it costs to have it done
>if it doesn't usually work.  Any success stories out there?
> 
>Thanks,
>John Filo
>filo@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu

Try cleaning the laser with a cotton swap dipped in alcohol.  This has 
worked for me in the past.

S. Graham
From: eddys@citrus.SAC.CA.US ( Steve Eddy )
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: Class A MOSFET Power Amp for sale...
Date: 19 Dec 92 22:42:27 GMT
Organization: Citrus Grove Public Access ( 916 ) 381-5822    Sacramento CA.  USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

yystg@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (STEVE GRAHAM) writes:
: 
: Doesn't Blade make a vaccum tube amp?
: 
: S. Graham

   The only company I'm aware of that has a vacuum tube car amplifier is
Milbert (the BaM-230).

se

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Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: RYNA10@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Jay Kopycinski)
Subject: ORION PHONE NUMBER
Organization: Motorola
Date: 15 Dec 1992 11:16:36 MST

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
From: bell@hops.larc.nasa.gov (John Bell)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Orion telephone number?
Date: 15 Dec 1992 16:18:28 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center
Distribution: world
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Keywords: Orion

ORION'S NUMBER IS 602-730-8200.  MAIN OFFICE IN TEMPE, AZ.

Jay


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From: kirk@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kirk Lindstrom)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:57:59 GMT
Subject: Re: Fix scratch in CD?
Organization: Shredding the water of SF Bay, HP-OCD
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car

Turtle Wax is supposed to work wonders.  Some people use toothpaste for sanding.

Kirk out