HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: szatrows@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gigabyte drives information
Date: 5 Nov 92 06:28:55 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I have the Segate 1.4 gig drive (Wren 8?).  Its worked with no
problems, so far (knock wod :).  I've had it for close to a year (I
think).  Its relativly quite, not the quitest, its pretty fast, not
the fastest, but it is incredibly resiliant!  I've had a zillion
crashes (can you say 3.0 beta), power outages while moving megs of
files (when making the monoLib CD's) and the drive bounce back every
time with no problems.  I was praising the fsck gods many a time :)

The only thing that is a bummer, and its got nothing to do with the
drive... is that when you have a drive that big a you move tons of
files around the drive starts to get slow because of fragmentation.
The kind o fragmentation that just wont go away unless you completly
rebuild your drive.  I did a rebuild (build disk) and 3.0 now appears
to run about 50% faster!  I wish that their was somekind of
defragmentation software.

	later, John
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173 Westgate Drive     | Audix#5512                                  |brain %>)
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From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Re: NeXTprinter toner question not in FAQ?
Reply-To: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 17:45:24 GMT

Stephan Schell writes
> I'm surprised not to find this question in the FAQ, so here goes.
> Which type of HP Laserjet toner cartridge is the right one for use
> in a NeXTprinter?  Choices listed in the Inmac catalog are:
> 1. Laserjet II, IID, III, IIID
> 2. Laserjet IIP, IIIP Plus, IIIP
> 3. Laserjet, Laserjet Plus, Laserjet 500 Plus
> 4. Laserjet IIISi
> 5. Laserjet 2000
> 

The NeXT Laser Printer uses standard EPS cartridges.  The one I got  
is marked as being for use with the LJ II, IID, III, IIID.

--
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: songer@lexmark.com (Christopher Songer)
Subject: Re: New RISC workstations / 88110 demise
X-Disclaimer: These views are the poster's and not necessarily those of Lexmark
Keywords: RISC
Organization: Lexington, KY
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 20:09:24 GMT

eboltz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Eric Scott Boltz) writes:
>This sucks for a few reasons:
...
>3. The NRW will be AS FAST AS A HIGH-END CLONE.

Just as a passing question:

And how does the fastest machine in NeXT's lineup today compare with 
a highend clone? (A: It's slower and more expensive.)

Next could do a heck of alot worse than commiting to Intel. Intel is
doing a pretty good job keeping up with the Risc revolution. They seem
to have about a year performance lag with the risc designs and this gap 
has held for the past several years (unlike Moto who keeps falling
further behind.) Plus: Intel has volume like no risc maker can hope to 
achieve in the next several years. This makes for cheap silicon and
that makes for cheaper machines.

-Chris
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From: torre@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Fernando Torre)
Subject: Full disk problem
Reply-To: torre@oakhill.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Semiconductor Products Sector
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:01:48 GMT


I have a NeXTstation with 8meg of memory, 200meg internal drive and
230meg external drive. After running a bunch of sound and score
applications I noticed that playing a score file would, after a while
quit with no messages at all. At that moment I noticed that  my internal
drive was full. I went to check the size of the swapfile ant it was 
more than 80meg! I then rebooted (big mistake?) hoping that the swap
file would go back to 16meg?, but it never passed the checking network...
message during reboot.
Questions:
  How can I get it to reboot?
  I think I should be able to boot from floppy and try to mount the
  disk to do some cleaning.
  Can I remove the /private/vm/swapfile? and then reboot?
  Why is the swapfile so big. How can I prevent this from happening?
  
  I am a new Next user, so please excuse my ignorance. I'd really
  appreciate any input.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Fernando Torre  -------------------------------  torre@oakhill.sps.mot.com
From: wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXTprinter toner question not in FAQ?
Date: 12 Nov 1992 09:10:05 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: comp
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca
Summary: Buy the same toner cart. as the HP II, IID, III, IIID

The NeXT laser uses the same cartridges as the HP II/IID/III/IIID.  I believe
you would want to buy an EP-S type cartridge.

---
Robert W. Wong Jr.
"I can't even remember all the things I've forgotten." - RWW.
From: ttn@cs.tut.fi (Tero Nieminen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: New RISC workstations / 88110 demise
Date: 7 Nov 92 11:50:30
Organization: Tampere Univ. of Technology, Finland.
Distribution: world
	<1992Nov5.215430.15207@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
	<1992Nov06.152200.170781@lexmark.com>
	<1992Nov6.205045.26293@netcom.com>
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In-reply-to: abell@netcom.com's message of Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:50:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.205045.26293@netcom.com> abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell) writes:

   Unfortunately, you can't just brush of an obnoxious architecture by saying
   "The compiler people will worry about this." Let's stay real, folks.
   Underlying models matter, and the Intel model is about as bad as they come.
   If this is what we have to live with, I suppose we'll manage somehow,
   but if you think it doesn't affect you, you're wrong.

Actually what do you mean by the intel model? And how is it inferior to
Motorola 68k architecture?

Not by speed anyway.
-- 
         Tero Nieminen                      DANGER!
         ttn@cs.tut.fi                   Computer Bytes!
From: halpin@vsg1.dsg.dec.com (Stephen E. Halpin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: New RISC workstations (MIPS R4400)
Keywords: RISC
Date: 10 Nov 92 03:14:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: nntpd.1992Nov10.031446.24527
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <1992Nov8.015101.11828@cs.su.oz.au> jimu@orthanc.xa.au.oz.au (James Uther) writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.061437.24266@RedBrick.COM>, jfr@RedBrick.COM () writes:
>|>   Dream on.  For my money, there is no way Jobs and crew are going to
>|>   go with a processor from a once-almost-bankrupt now-acquired company 
>|>   which is a subsidiary of an arch-competitor (SGI).  The risc is way to
>|>   high :-) (sorry for the BAD pun) 
>
>I read recently that someone has produced a R4400 clone, so going with the 
>R4400 would be as good as going with sparc (except of course that the R4400
>is a better chip). Multi-vendor, RISC, etc.
>Anyone know anything more?
>
>|>   Jon Rosen
>
>	james

MIPS stuff is also made by Integrated Device Technology Inc., LSI Logic Corp.,
NEC Electronics Corp., Performance Semiconductor Corp., Siemens Components Inc.,
and Toshiba Corp (this from the MIPS press announcement.)  Folklore has it
that MIPS put too much into the R6000, which is how they got into trouble.
That effort (like the ECL SPARC and DGs ECL 88100) appear to be severely dead now.
SGI isnt much of a competitor to NeXT in that SGI makes virtually nothing
under $10K and NeXT makes virtually nothing over $10K (for a base box.)
The R4000 line will need generate money to fund the kind of chip development
it will need to stay competative; NeXT can provide some of that volume as it
grows.  Then one starts to speculate about a NeXT/SGI hybrid......  -Steve
-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Stephen E. Halpin                    halpin@vsg1.dsg.dec.com

"You might just have to waste your life just to live."  - Soul Asylum
From: bruehl@gurke.physik.tu-berlin.de (bruehl local gurke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: slow Fujitsu 2624FA 520MB disk?
Date: 12 Nov 1992 16:57:18 GMT
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
NNTP-Posting-Host: gurke.physik.tu-berlin.de
Keywords: Fujitsu


I have installed System 3.0 on a new Fujitsu 2624FA (520MB Fast Model) and  
was surprised of slow transfer rates. 

Write: 800 kB/sec *** but read only 400 kB/sec *** 
tested by DrivePerformance, cp and a self made C program.
These results are independent of SCSI-1 or SCSI-2 mode, and 1024 or 512  
byte sectors.

What did I made wrong?
From: rcbaab@rwa.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Layout of mouse pins on non-ADB keyboard
Date: 8 Nov 92 15:40:38 GMT
Reply-To: rcbaab@urc.tue.nl

Hello!

I would like to connect a Kensington Mac (Plus) trackball to my
(non-ADB) NeXTstation, does anybody have some pointers about the
pinouts of the mouse of NeXT or has anyone made some cicuitry already
for connecting it?  Thanks in advance!

Annard

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| Annard Brouwer                        Bitnet             : rcgbbaab@heitue51
| small-sized NeXT mail appreciated!    Internet           : rcbaab@urc.tue.nl
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From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: Telebit
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 02:04:39 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.104722.3236@cubetech.com> andrew@cubetech.com writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.205007.3289@cs.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
>>Does someone have a phone number for Telebit?
>
>800/TELEBIT.
>
>That probably won't work from Canada, so try 408/734-4333.
>


Thanks Andrew, Conrad, Joe, and everyone else on this one....

- db
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Telecommuters, Remote Workers
From: 9138827a@levels.unisa.edu.au
Date: 4 Nov 92 21:19:08 +1030
Organization: University of South Australia

This item has been cross-posted to comp.sys.next.misc
=====================================================================

I am undertaking postgraduate study at the School of Library and
Information Management, University of South Australia, Adelaide, on
the particular information needs of telecommuters - those who perform
job-related work at a site away from an organisation and communicate
electronically rather than commuting physically.
 
I would be very interested in, and would greatly appreciate a response
from those who are telecommuters, to the following questions. If you
are not a telecommuter but know of others who are it would be
appreciated if you could pass this on to them:
 
 
Q1      Does the organisation to which you telecommute provide any
        library and information services which are accessible to you
        online? (eg catalogs, reference assistance, databases, literature
        searches, document delivery services, organisation information
        such as daily bulletins and administrative gazettes.)
 
        If yes:
 
        (a) What services are provided?
        (b) How useful are these services to you?
 
Q2      (a)     What is the nature of the organisation to which you
                telecommute?
 
        (b)     If you sometimes commute physically to your organisation,
                how frequently do you do this?
 
Q3      What are the particular information needs that you have as a
        telecommuter?
 
Q4      What basic information services do you consider should be
        provided by an organisation for its telecommuters? (see Q5 for
        additional and desirable services)
 
Q5      What additional information services would you perceive as being
        highly desirable for an organisation to provide for its
        telecommuters?
 
Q6      Are there any further comments you wish to make regarding the
        information needs of telecommuters?
 
Q7      Would you like a summary of the results of this survey E-mailed
        to you?
 
Respondents can be assured that individuals and organisations will not
be identified in any report or summary of this survey.
 
Please E-mail your response to my Internet address:
 
9138827a@ntx.city.unisa.edu.au
 
Thank you for your cooperation
 
Bronwen Strong
From: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Byte Swapping (Was: New RISC workstations)
Date: 5 Nov 92 06:58:17 GMT
Reply-To: jjfeiler@relief.com
Organization: relief consulting

In article <1992Nov2.195519.612@netcom.com> abell@netcom.com (Steven T.  
Abell) writes:
> eboltz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Eric Scott Boltz) writes:
> 
> > As far as Intel CPUs go, aren't they the ones that expect multiple-byte
> > data to have bytes swaped? - Yuck.
> 
> As far as I'm aware, nobody has *ever* made a machine that got  
byte-ordering
> right in combination with several other crucial factors. This has had an
> unpleasant effect on sofware quality.
[munch]
> 
> The design I suggest is very different from what we're used to, but it  
works
> just as well in the machine, and better in our heads when we're writing
> programs. That translates into fewer bugs.
> 
> 0) All memory diagrams are written sideways,
>    with the most-significant bit, byte, word, whatever, on the left.
> 
> 1) The base address of a string, struct, array is its *end*, not its  
beginning.

Unfortunately, many string operations (formatting strings, strcat, etc) will  
grow the length of the string, and we than have to copy the entire string to  
a buffer, operate on it, then put it back with its end in the right place.    
Sigh......


> Yes, I know, it's weird, but only because *everybody* got it wrong,
> and that's what we've become accustomed to. Yuck.
> 
> Steve abell@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Telebit
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:50:07 GMT

Does someone have a phone number for Telebit?

Thanks,

- db

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: claire@cubx.oleane.com  (Claire Normand)
Subject: Cub'X-Window & ADB
Reply-To: claire@cubx.oleane.com
Organization: Cub'X Systemes, France.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:32:47 GMT

In article <1992Oct21.124450.10468@gagetalker.com> scotty@gagetalker.com  
(Scott Turner) writes:
>
> Oh boy, I just finished installing the co-Xist 2.1.2 DEMO and guess  
what?
> Yep, no workee! Hey guys, where were YOU when NeXT was working on ADB  
last
> year? Or even earlier this summer when they started shipping NeXT's with
> 3.1v71 bootroms that could handle ADB? Didn't anyone at NeXT tell you  
folks
> that co-Xist was going to be broken RSN? Are you ready for all the  
confused
> phone calls from people wondering why they type ls into xterm and get
> giberish instead? Hmm, might be amusing to call them and find ouT. :)
>
> So pile one more product on the dead software pile. I imagine I'm right  
about
> Cub-X and the freely available X11R5 servers as well, sigh.
>

Cub'X-Window works fine with ADB keyboards, with no patch required. Reason  
for this is  Cub'X-Window keyboard mapping has been developed in order to  
follow NeXT keyboard mapping. It  strictly adapts to NeXT keyboard  
preferences, permitting to use all NeXT International keyboards, and the  
ADB. 
Cub'X-Window keyboard accepts accents and other specific letters, and also  
adapts to X requirements, such as different treatment of right and left  
Shift key.


Claire Normand
Cub'x Systemes
claire@cubx.oleane.com
(+33-1) 46 93 29 25
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m@crito.stanford.edu (M Carling)
Subject: Re: New RISC workstations / 88110 demise
Reply-To: mcarling@NetForce.com (M Carling)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 01:56:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov2.170741.2092@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>  
eboltz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Eric Scott Boltz) writes:
> This week's Info World, "Reports from the Field" claims that NeXT has
> terminated the dual 88110 NRW and will go with the P5 (Pentium) from
> Intel in future machines.

Cringley has been wrong on nearly every prediction/rumor he ever wrote  
regarding NeXT. He is the fool who wrote that NRW would be announced at  
the first NeXTWorld EXPO and cost $3500. Believe him at your peril.

M Carling
Director, Bay Area NeXT Group
General Manager, NetForce Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: brian@umbc4.umbc.edu (Brian Cuthie)
Subject: Re: DAT drive wanted
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 05:01:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.181245.4221@ohm.york.ac.uk> nigelm@ohm.york.ac.uk (Nigel Metheringham) writes:
>In <1992Nov02.130149.13890@cyantic.com> mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) writes:
>
>
>>I can't be 100% certain, but the HP DAT formats may be proprietary.
>>Can anyone confirm/deny this?
>
>Definitely NOT.
>The HP DATs use the DDS standard which is the Industry Standard
>(originally designed by HP & Sony).  The compression is also
>industry standard (can't remember the acronym).
>

It's DCLZ compression (compression algorithm 0x20 in the mode select page).


>We have had no problem transferring data off site using HP DAT
>drives - no idea what the other end uses!  However there are a lot
>of pre-standard drives around - the old WangDATs were non-standard
>although I think new ones are DDS.
>
>	Nigel.


-brian



-- 
Brian Cuthie
Systemix Software, Inc.
brian@systemix.com
From: jblevins@uniwa.uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Jim Blevins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Can drive problems induce a system panic?
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:15:47
Organization: /usr/users/jblevins/.organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: uniwa.uwa.edu.au
In-reply-to: uprao@mcl.ucsb.edu's message of 27 Oct 92 16:54:20 GMT

Excuse the naive question, though I am new both to disk problems and
system panics.  Earlier in the week, my external 1.2G (Seagate
Imprimis) boot drive began to emit a high pitched whine; the enclosure
was warm to the touch, so I somewhat anxiously logged out and powered
off.  On following days the drive again seemed to be discernably
louder than usual, though performance and the level of seek noise
appeared to be unaffected.  Last night, however, I got my first system
panic; I was able to continue from the ROM monitor, and the ensuing
reboot brought me back to a login prompt.  The boot process included a
long and noisy "checking disks" segment, though no errors or bad
sectors were reported.  I was able to login immediately afterwards,
and again today, with no evident ill effects of the panic.

My question then is this: Is the panic a likely symptom of early drive
problems, or is it more probable that the two effects are unrelated?
The drive is under a year old and still under warranty, though since
moving to Oz it has been in an non-climate controlled office that may
reach between 75 and 80F on some days.

Thanx in advance for any information/advice.

/jim

--
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Jim Blevins			 	jblevins@{uniwa,cs}.uwa.edu.au
Centre for Linguistics			phone: +61-9-381-1515
University of Western Australia 	fax:   +61-9-380-1062
Nedlands, W.A. 6009
From: ben@fizz.fdn.org (Benoit Grange)
Subject: Re: NeXT Uninterruptible Power Supply recommendations
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:18:48 GMT

In article <1992Nov1.220507.6892@ictv.com> barry@ictv.com (Barry Lustig)  
writes:
> 
> I second the recommendation for BEST.  We are using one of their
> larger UPS's (the Micro-Ferrups line) to protect a small machine room.
> It has worked flawlessly since the day we installed it.
> 
> 
> barry
> -- 
I am not acquainted with BEST UPS's but I always remember that's

	*** NOTHING IS WORSE THAN A FAILING UPS ***

Some time ago I worked in a bank, during the last night of the month some  
batches were run during 8 hours till early morning. Late in the afternoon  
all UPS warning lights went flashing... Switching off the S38 and back on  
would delay us by more than 2 hours and prevent transactions in the next  
morning.

Always get a GOOD UPS, watch warning indications, try it from time to time  
and follow maintenance schedule closely.
-- 
----
Benoit Grange - PARIS - FRANCE

Mail to : ben@fizz.fdn.org (SMALL NeXTMails accepted, < 10kb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ddj+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug DeJulio)
Subject: Re: New RISC workstations / 88110 demise
Keywords: RISC
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:22:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.070604.2071@cubetech.com> andrew@cubetech.com writes:
>Dedicating processors is stupid (a whole P5 for sound?  what a waste).
>Let mach split everything up on all the processors and use thread
>priorities to ensure good interactive performance.

I'd buy this argument *IF* NeXT's OS had good realtime support.
However Mach 2.0 (upon which NeXT mach is based) is just not a
realtime OS, and you can't do realtime operations with it.  User
interaction needs to be done by realtime tasks.  That's the main
reason I was reccomending dedicated chips.  No realtime means no
reliable synched animation and sound, which sucks on a multimedia
workstation.

If NeXT upgraded to Mach 3, perhaps they could get realtime
performance by running the display and sound servers at a higher
priority than the Unix emulation task, but in Mach 2 the unix
emulation is built into the Mach kernel so that can't be done.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

-- 
Doug DeJulio
ddj+@cmu.edu
From: tacchi@next01.cc.umanitoba.ca. (Mark G. Tacchi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Hard Drive Question
Date: 7 Nov 92 22:14:30 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada

Has anybody anything to say about the company in Sunnyvale called Corporate  
Systems Center (CSC)?  They sell refurbished HD's and right now have a MAXTOR  
660 MB on sale.  Is this a good drive for a NeXT?  I need space for a color  
machine that I will be getting shortly.  Any comments will be very much  
appreciated.  Thank you.
--
Mark G. Tacchi                                    tacchi@next01.cc.umanitoba.ca
  Unix Support Group                                        (NeXT Mail Welcome)
  University of Manitoba Computer Services
 "My opinions are my own, and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: eboltz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Eric Scott Boltz)
Subject: Good News and URGENT question!
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:01:32 GMT

The good news is that my superiors have agreed to buy me
a NeXTstation Turbo Color system.

Now the urgent question - will the following CD-ROM player work
with my NSTC:
Toshiba TXM-3301E-SUN

The reason is that I want to get a CD drive, but it MUST work with 
our existing Suns. Suns, being Suns, require a special EPROM - hence
the -Sun designation on the drive.

Please- anyone- let me know if this drive will work with NeXTs SOON
I'm writing the P.R. now!

Eric
From: carsten@pizza.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Carsten Schultz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Should I buy a NeXT -> Thanks!
Date: 11 Nov 1992 16:10:21 GMT
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carsten@pizza.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Carsten Schultz)
NNTP-Posting-Host: pizza.fb10.tu-berlin.de

In article <1992Nov11.130626.1586@fwi.uva.nl> schaper@fwi.uva.nl (Lancelot  
Schaper) writes:
..
> 
> - I need MIDI ports and the software like Steinberg's Cubase.
> 
It is said, that in this respect the Mac or even the Atari ST/TT is a  
better choice. But of course, if you need a fast machine, Atari is out of  
the game and the Mac is to expensive.

Carsten