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From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Subject: Re: Blade Runner: Director's Cut on video?
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:36:17 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.163814.4776@dialogic.com> gerry@pizzabox.dialogic.com (Gerry Lachac) writes:
>My local video store has the "10th Anniversary Edition" of Blade
>Runner available for rental.  It doesn't not say whether it is the
>director's cut or not.  The only indication on the box that it is any
>different is the quote "Not Rated - Originally rated R", which implies
>that this tape contains something different from the original.

I saw this a while ago too.  When I asked about it, I was told it was
definitely not the Director's Cut.  Nobody satisfactorily answered what
the change in rating was all about, though...
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From: nixon@daimi.aau.dk (S|ren Tranholm)
Subject: 2001: A Space Odyssey
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 16:37:50 GMT

 Hi there!

 Yesterday I saw 2001: A Space Odyssey for the second time. I still find the
 ending a little (To be true VERY) weird.

 So I thought that maybe there was somebody reading this newsgroup, who could
 explain the ending (It's all the light stuff and where Dave meets himself etc.)
 that I would like an explanation on.

 If anybody can explain it, they can eighter, post the answer here at this news-
 group, or they can e-mail me direct.


           /Soren.

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From: stigs@stud.cs.uit.no (Stig-Lennart Soerensen)
Subject: Dune
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 11:05:09 GMT

Can anyone tell me how much money David Lynch movie DUNE made at the box-office?
Also I know (from a documentary about the making of DUNE) that Lynch was signed
up for DUNE II and DUNE III. Have these films EVER reached the pre-production
state? Or are the scripts slowly dusting down in the office of DeLaurentis 
Production?

stigs@stud.cs.uit.no
From: alrashi@ecf.toronto.edu (AL RASHID SHAHIR)
Subject: OOppss...
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:41:48 GMT

Sorry for the outbreak of humbug-ishness in my last post..Thanks for bringing it
out...(Still a little ticked about the length inbetween though).

Boy, is my face all red......B^>
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From: dxo@cs.bham.ac.uk (David Oakley)
Newsgroups: alt.znet.pc
Subject: Where am I?
Date: 9 Jan 93 14:16:00 GMT
Organization: ASTRAsoft, Stoke-On-Trent England.

Sorry if this a bind, but I've just subscribed and I'm wondering what I've
subscribed to. Do the Z*NET issues appear here?

Thanks!

David.
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From: alrashi@ecf.toronto.edu (AL RASHID SHAHIR)
Subject: Errrmm...
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:07:23 GMT

Am I wrong, or is this newsgroup non-functional again??? (This is the second
time I've had to post a message about non-posting here!) Where the heck is
Znet?????? Has it been taken off-line? If it has, how come the Znet staff's
New Year post got through?? Jeez...

AcEzE.

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Subject: Re: OOppss...
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 93 12:57:40 GMT
Organization: The Z*NET Global News Gateway in Parnell New Zealand.

alrashi@ecf.toronto.edu (AL RASHID SHAHIR) writes:

> Sorry for the outbreak of humbug-ishness in my last post..Thanks for bringing
> out...(Still a little ticked about the length inbetween though).
> 
> Boy, is my face all red......B^>
> -- 
 This weeks issue posted later tonight will be 900 line each again.
 
 Happy days guys.


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Newsgroups: alt.znet.pc
Subject: Re: Errrmm...
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 09:22:27 GMT
Organization: The Z*NET Global News Gateway in Parnell New Zealand.

alrashi@ecf.toronto.edu (AL RASHID SHAHIR) writes:

> Am I wrong, or is this newsgroup non-functional again??? (This is the second
 
 Look at your news group today it should have issues
 
             9224
             9225
 
 posted in it. If not I suggest there is a hicup between you and me
 AGAIN!
 
 Happy new year peoples.
> time I've had to post a message about non-posting here!) Where the heck is
> Znet?????? Has it been taken off-line? If it has, how come the Znet staff's
> New Year post got through?? Jeez...
> 
> AcEzE.


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Newsgroups: alt.znet.pc
Subject: Re: Where am I?
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 93 12:58:32 GMT
Organization: The Z*NET Global News Gateway in Parnell New Zealand.

dxo@cs.bham.ac.uk (David Oakley) writes:

> Sorry if this a bind, but I've just subscribed and I'm wondering what I've
> subscribed to. Do the Z*NET issues appear here?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> David.

 They sure do David, mainly on a Monday night NZST (Sunday USAST)
 Or Monday morningyour time. But this weeks has been delayed due to a 
 problem at our host which is now fixed and I am trying to clear a back 
 log of news for the last 4 days to all my uucp sites.
 
 regards


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From: fmah@mta.ca
Subject: The Floating Rose routine
Reply-To: fmah@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:53:01 GMT

We all know about the floating rose routine.  Yes, the one performed by the
great DC himself.  I remember a bit of the conversation on the levitation
routines, earlier.  There's just one thing . . . 

Where can I get it!!!!  I've been looking in my catalogs and no one seems
to have it!  It is just under some weird title that I'd never think of or 
what?!   

Help?
I'd really appreciate it.

A guy up in the great white north,

Frank
Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: ab56503@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Major Tom)
Subject: David Copperfield posters...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:23:26 GMT
Keywords: Magic 

	I believe this question was posted before.  Does anyone know of
	any posters of the recent Copperfield?  I've seen many at the 
	performances, but have never seen them for sale.  I've written
	the "fan club" and am waiting for a response.


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From: Jeffrey_Scott_Morgan@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Re: Help!
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 11:03:35 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Any reputable bird dealer in your area should be able to procure doves  for
you, however I advise you to consider the responsibilities inherent in the
training and care of doves. For more information, contact Irene Larsen
C/O The Magic Castle or Genii magazine.
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From: presto@chopin.udel.edu (Jason Y Nocks)
Subject: Re: Penn & Teller
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:22:48 GMT

In article <WVOSS.111.0@novell.com> WVOSS@novell.com (Wes Voss) writes:
>In article <1993Jan2.090554.13522@netcom.com> grego@netcom.com (greg huff) writes:
>>From: grego@netcom.com (greg huff)
>>Subject: Re: Penn & Teller
>>Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 09:05:54 GMT
>>
>>Just got How To Play With Your Food for Christmas.  If any magicians
>>get upset they are very silly, you can find all the same information
>>at the local library!  The fortunes and phoney labels are worth
>>the price of the book.  What people should be harping on is the
>>recall on the NON TEAR sugar packets.  Just call the 800 number
>>and ask for the new "SUGAR" and they'll mail it out FREE!
>>By the way anyone catch Penn & Tellers 900 gallons of Champage
>>"trick" on New Year's?  Magicians should be more upset with
>>the lack of magic on the television then anyone doing anything
>>magic related on the tube!
>
>I was very disappointed by the champagne trick... Good to see I wasn't the 
>only one. I expected something funny...
>
>Wes


Those people that criticise David Copperfield of using camera's too much to his
advantage should have serious problems with Penn & Teller's New Years "effect".
I was not very entertained, and I usually think that they are two of the most
entertaining performers around.

Oh well. Hope they do something better next TV appearance,
-Jason
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From: cba@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Brian Abernathy)
Subject: Re: Next DC Special?
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:36:31 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5


Last year, his special was aired around the last week of March.  I remember
that because I was out of town, and my wife had to tape it for me!
Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: wagnerp@cuug.ab.ca (Paul Wagner)
Subject: Janexx
Organization: Calgary UNIX Users' Group
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 08:36:13 GMT

Anybody out there ever heard of a spirit named Janexx?  One of
my students claims automatic writing thru a being by this name.
Would appreciate any responses.  However, my internet email system
is down for a few days, so perhaps this group would be the better
place to respond to me.  Thanks, Paul Wagner
From: myee@apple.com (Michael K. Yee)
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Next DC Special?
Date: 6 Jan 93 23:31:00 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.


	Does anyone know when the next David Copperfield special is
	scheduled to air?

	=mike
From: mlm7395@rigel.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Re: Penn & Teller
Date: 6 Jan 93 21:52:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: rigel.tamu.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <16B4ECAFC.FLANAGA@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>, FLANAGA@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU (Scott Flanagan) writes...
>>WV> I was very disappointed by the champagne trick... Good to see I wasn't the
>>WV> only one. I expected something funny...
>>
>>I think they made a prudent point.  P&T are avid and outspoken when it comes
>> to drugs and alcohol.  they are 100% against it!
> 
>Could someone who saw the show please describe the trick for those of us
>who missed it?
> 
>Scott Flanagan (flanaga@ricevm1.rice.edu)

The trick involved both Penn and Teller tying themselves to concrete blocks
and then being lowered into a 900 gallon champagne glass full of champagne
(which they had warmed up "as much as good taste will allow").  Teller
then produced a razor blade and tried to cut the rope, but dropped it.
They stuggled a bit and then had to be rescued by the crew (who broke a 
hole in the glass) and taken away in an ambulance.

We got the point of the trick, but were also disappointed by it.  It was
not as funny as we expected from them.
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From: FLANAGA@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU (Scott Flanagan)
Subject: Re: Penn & Teller
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:25:43 GMT

>WV> I was very disappointed by the champagne trick... Good to see I wasn't the
>WV> only one. I expected something funny...
>
>I think they made a prudent point.  P&T are avid and outspoken when it comes
> to drugs and alcohol.  they are 100% against it!
 
Could someone who saw the show please describe the trick for those of us
who missed it?
 
Scott Flanagan (flanaga@ricevm1.rice.edu)
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From: an5643@anon.penet.fi
Subject: No Subject
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: alt.magic
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:55:01 GMT

Greetings,
    As of late I have been trying to integrate the pentagram and the 7
chakra system.  I would be interested in hearing any traditional and/or
non-traditional symbolic meanings of the pentagram (I am aware of
man/woman, coins/material/earth, 5 points=4 elements+spirit, sun/star,
protective sigil, magic circle of sorts, an evocation tool).  I would also
like to know which notes/frequencies are associated with the 7 chakras. 
Most of all, I would like to hear about any attempts to integrate or
parallel the pentagram and the 7 chakra system, as I find them both useful
and powerful.  Any ideas, references, or personal thoughts would be
greatly appreciated, either here on alt.magic or through email.  Thankyou
(in advance) for your input.  -Hans  (PY297HG@UVMVM.UVM.EDU)


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From: myee@apple.com (Michael K. Yee)
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Re: Penn & Teller
Date: 5 Jan 93 16:10:01 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

grego@netcom.com (greg huff) writes:
> Just got How To Play With Your Food for Christmas.  If any magicians
> get upset they are very silly, you can find all the same information
> at the local library!  The fortunes and phoney labels are worth
> the price of the book.  What people should be harping on is the
> recall on the NON TEAR sugar packets.  Just call the 800 number
> and ask for the new "SUGAR" and they'll mail it out FREE!
> By the way anyone catch Penn & Tellers 900 gallons of Champage
> "trick" on New Year's?  Magicians should be more upset with
> the lack of magic on the television then anyone doing anything
> magic related on the tube!

	You're lucky.  I tried to get "How To Play With Your Food" just
	before Christmas and it was recalled the day I decide to buy it.
	:-(   I missed the Penn & Teller "trick" on New Years.  Can you
	describe the effect?  Thanks and Happy New Year!

	=mike
From: "steve bass" <steve.bass@execnet.com>
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: gimmick problems
Date: 11 Jan 93 04:35:57 EST
Reply-To: "steve bass" <steve.bass@execnet.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Executive Networks Information

  >>    Subject: Gimmick problems

MP>>You mentioned that you spent $200 on gimmicks, only to find they
  >>were cheap. I found the same thing years ago, and came to this
  >>conclusion: Buy books, and material. It takes more work to do
  >>ungimmicked magic, but you can do it anywhere, and anytime.
  >>Angles are generally better in sleight of hand it seems. Get
  >>yourself some general magic books, and basic props..coins,
  >>cards, etc. Bobo's book on coin magic can show you a dozen good
  >>vanishes that are impromptu. Look for new material, not other's.

I think there needs to be a balance between "gimmick" magic and solid,
hard-core, book learned magic.

To become a competent performer, one first needs to have a solid,
working knowledge of the major concepts, including stage presence,
misdirection, card and coin sleights, etc. It's kinda like knowing DOS
well enough to switch to Norton Commander or XTREE.

Only then can a performer critically examine the value of gimmicked or
even self-contained magic. (Or, for that matter, even "read" the
advertising descriptions.)

And even then, it's sometimes hard to distinguish what should be
considered a gimmick trick. I don't think Card Warp (a brilliant
close-up illusion) is a gimmick trick. In fact, it might have been
included in a "collection of tricks" book had it not had commercial
potential as a stand-alone.

What about the visible penetration of a coin through a rubber sheet (I
can't recall the commercial name)? Sure you're using a gimmick or prop
-- but is a fabulous illusion.

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From: WVOSS@novell.com (Wes Voss)
Subject: Help!
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:17:56 GMT

Help!

My sister is looking for some David Copperfield posters (she says they 
exist, anyway) but we can't find them. She wants to get them for his 
birthday. Any ideas where she can get them? Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks!

Oh! And as long as I'm here, I may as well ask, where can she get doves for 
his illusions?
Wes

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From: cragaisi@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris)
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Jim Knepley please write!
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:32:38 GMT
Distribution: co
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.

Jim,

I lost your e-mail address.  Please write me so that we can do the exchange
of U.S. currency (legal tender for all debts - public and private) for the
pamphlet by Joe Givan.  Thanks.

Chris Ragaisis
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From: WVOSS@novell.com (Wes Voss)
Subject: Re: Penn & Teller
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:58:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan2.090554.13522@netcom.com> grego@netcom.com (greg huff) writes:
>From: grego@netcom.com (greg huff)
>Subject: Re: Penn & Teller
>Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 09:05:54 GMT
>
>Just got How To Play With Your Food for Christmas.  If any magicians
>get upset they are very silly, you can find all the same information
>at the local library!  The fortunes and phoney labels are worth
>the price of the book.  What people should be harping on is the
>recall on the NON TEAR sugar packets.  Just call the 800 number
>and ask for the new "SUGAR" and they'll mail it out FREE!
>By the way anyone catch Penn & Tellers 900 gallons of Champage
>"trick" on New Year's?  Magicians should be more upset with
>the lack of magic on the television then anyone doing anything
>magic related on the tube!

I was very disappointed by the champagne trick... Good to see I wasn't the 
only one. I expected something funny...

Wes

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Internet: wvoss@novell.com
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and no one elses... You know the rest...
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From: flbbs!jeff.smith@ncoast.ORG (Jeff Smith) 
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: MAGIC STORES
Date: 9 Jan 93 21:26:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Fleet BBS (216) 646-0655 24 hrs DUAL STD
Reply-To: flbbs!jeff.smith@ncoast.ORG (Jeff Smith) 

I failed to download the list someone published a few weeks ago of books
and stores dealing with Magic.  Does anyone have a copy ? Could someone
contact me through e-mail and let me know ? Thanks.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:46:25 EST
From: Sleight of Hans <HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Re: No Subject

In article <1993Jan12.195435.18935@fuug.fi>, an5643@anon.penet.fi says:
>Greetings,
>    As of late I have been trying to integrate the pentagram and the 7
>chakra system.  I would be interested in hearing any traditional and/or
>non-traditional symbolic meanings of the pentagram (I am aware of
>man/woman, coins/material/earth, 5 points=4 elements+spirit, sun/star,
>protective sigil, magic circle of sorts, an evocation tool).  I would also
>like to know which notes/frequencies are associated with the 7 chakras.
>Most of all, I would like to hear about any attempts to integrate or
>parallel the pentagram and the 7 chakra system, as I find them both useful
>and powerful.  Any ideas, references, or personal thoughts would be
>greatly appreciated, either here on alt.magic or through email.  Thankyou
>(in advance) for your input.  -Hans  (PY297HG@UVMVM.UVM.EDU)
>                               ^^^^

But not the HANS who regularly posts to alt.magiC <---  !!!!!
As in SLEIGHT OF HANS...  (At least that's what it says on the
business cards...)

Sheesh.  :-)

| O |                                                                   | O |
|   | Hans C. Masing          "By all means marry: If you get a good    |   |
| O | HCM100 @ PSUVM.psu.edu   wife, you'll become happy; if you get    | O |
|   | HCM100 @ CBA1.psu.edu    a bad one, you'll become a philosopher." |   |
| O | Penn State MIS Dept.                           - Socrates         | O |
|   |                                                                   |   |
From: gouldh@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Re: Help!
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:03:17 GMT
Organization: Memphis State University

For the person asking about doves, also be aware that doves often
create an allergic reaction do to the dander in the feathers.
From: "steve bass" <steve.bass@execnet.com>
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: two recent tv magic bits.
Date: 11 Jan 93 04:35:56 EST
Reply-To: "steve bass" <steve.bass@execnet.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Executive Networks Information

MAA>>Tyvek will rip, but only if there is a flaw or an existing cut in the
   >>material.  I have used this material for ages as test material for
   >>kites.  It is widely used in prototyping kites because it is cheap,
   >>lightweight, and very sturdy.  It can be glued, taped, drawn on, etc.
   >>Basically, anything you can do with paper, you can do with
   >>tyvek.....  It is actually a plastic substance though, and not made
   >>from wood fibers.  I have never actually tryed to heat seal tyvek.  I
   >>will check some books I have, and post the answer to that.

In fact, back in 1962 or so, Lou Tannen tried to use Tyvek in a
"do-as-I-do" but it never sold. Turns out a small cut -- he probably
used a razor blade -- will allow you to tear it will the audience's
piece, well, you get the idea.

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