HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: nobled@marcus.its.rpi.edu (David Noble)
Subject: Re: The "commercial use of net" problem -- irrelevant?
Keywords: Internet, commercial usage
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 12:10:38 GMT

ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) writes:
>I'm used to seeing "commercial use of the net" being frowned upon.  I
>get the feeling this is overdone and largely irrelevant.  I could well
>be wrong factually -- could you educate me?
	[stuff deleted]
>3. Companies routinely post press releases and the like on newsgroups.
>Such use often blurs the thin line between technical information and
>propaganda.

Press releases (yeah, propaganda) have their place. The problem is when
they spill over to unsuspecting newsgroups who really don't to hear it.

It's appropriate to post press releases in newsgroups with a charter
that indicates that those kind of announcements are acceptable, if not
encouraged.  Everything has its place. I would expect to see product
announcements for the Amiga in places like comp.sys.amiga.advocacy or
posts from Sun about Solaris 2.2 in comp.unix.solaris, but they would be
out of place in comp.unix.wizards.

It seems to me that "commercialization" is ok if the reader is a willing
recipient that actually benefits from the "advertisements". For example,
in misc.forsale, the poster hopes to sell and the reader hopes to buy.
In misc.jobs.offered, the poster needs an employee and the reader needs
a job. Everybody can get what they want. It's interesting to note that in
these groups, discussion is forbidden (well, heavily flamed...) because
it doesn't fit the charter of those newsgroups.

I think the propaganda spilling into inappropriate forums is really the
"commercialization of the net" being frowned upon. To me, that seems
worthy of a frown. Of course, a more appropriate forum for this type
of discussion is probably alt.culture.usenet... :)

As for the other points of present "commercialization", none of them sound
like a problem to me as long as everybody involved chips in their share
to cover the costs of running the net. Just my $0.02 ...

-Dave ( dnoble@rdrc.rpi.edu | dave@virtual.rdrc.rpi.edu | nobled@rpi.edu )
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: ACM programming contest
From: jcclover@vmsclst1.sc.csupomona.edu
Date: 13 Nov 92 13:51:10 PDT
Organization: Computer Science Computational Systems
Nntp-Posting-User: jcclover


Hey!

Anyone out there involved in the upcoming ACM programming contest??
If so, I wish ya luck.

Anyway, the reason I'm posting this is I have a request to make:
  Anyone out there have any programming problems on file?  What I mean by this
is short problems, usually solvable in a few pages of code, that use a
variety of algorithms.  Nothing hardware or language specific, but these
should be more like problems about algorithms.

                          Thanks a bunch
                             James C.
                       cvadr126@csupomona.edu 
Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: mikesw@microsoft.com (Mike Swift)
Subject: public access in NYC
Date: 09 Nov 92 20:18:41 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Distribution: usa

I have a friend in NYC who is looking for email access.  Can anybody send
me the names of some public-access machines or bulletin boards that he
can send mail through?  Thanks.

- Mike Swift

Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: lakshman@ms.uky.edu (Lakshman K)
Subject: LaTex <-> wordperfect 
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:30:07 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

I am looking for  a converter that will convert LaTex documents to word 
perfect. Would be thankful for any help.
- Lakshman
lakshman@ms.uky.edu
From: bs338@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael T. Biehl)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: leaving it on?
Date: 10 Nov 1992 04:13:36 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


Is it best to leave your pc on all the time or just turn it on 
when you need it then turn it off.  Reason I ask is becouse I 
heard that every time you turn your pc on and off you lose 
a day of its life.

Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: emmel@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (Grant Emmel)
Subject: Posting to gequikcom net
Summary: Need to mail to someone on the gequikcom net
Keywords: mail, gequikcom, net
Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, University of Wisconsin
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 17:10:52 GMT


Anybody know how to access  (for mail) the gequikcom net?
My sister is on it in Maryland.  Any general info since
she is not very computer literate?

Thanks ahead of time,
-- 

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Internet:emmel@psl.wisc.edu.                              608-873-6651
From: aa687@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Keith Ammann)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Speech synth for 386
Date: 12 Nov 1992 17:56:39 GMT
Organization: Books & Co., 2nd-largest independent bookstore in the U.S.
Reply-To: ammannkw@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu (Keith Ammann)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Does anyone know where I can get (by ftp, preferably) a
speech-synthesizing program for a 386 machine that doesn't
require a sound board?  Please reply by e-mail to the
above reply-to address.  Thank you.





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If you cannot believe what you wish, you cannot be at peace with yourself.
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Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: mazzucch@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (massimo mazzucchi)
Subject: STACKER HELP
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:01:57 GMT


hi 

i am Max from Milan Italy

I use Stacker but i have a problem :

i have (not i but my friend) deleted the

STACKVOL.DSK and with Norton Unerase Undelete not is possible

recover it : there is a utility (of Stacker or not) more hard

od Undelete to recover the files delete (with command DOS del)

on your HARD-DISK?


Thanks for your helP

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Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: dan@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu (Daniel Shelton)
Subject: NUG meeting
Reply-To: dan@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu (Daniel Shelton)
Organization: Univ of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 02:35:23 GMT

All and everyone,

	The University of Texas at San Antonio NeXT Users Group will be having a meeting on Friday, the 4th of December, at 6:30 p.m.  The meeting will be held at UTSA, exact l 
 
ocation to be determined.  Demonstrations will include :

	1. co-Xist : X-windows for the NeXT

	2. Knowledge Tool : a multimedia presentation program that is still in beta

	3. ObjectWorks\Smalltalk and VisualWorks from ParcPlace Systems - a pure OO development environment which is being ported to the NeXT

Also, we will have four NeXT machines for people to "play" on.  There will be food and drink afterwards.  

Note : This and all meetings are informal so people wearing suits and ties will be shot.

For additional information, send e-mail to Daniel Shelton (dan@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu).
From: buckland@ucs.ubc.ca (Tony Buckland)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: How significant is clock speed anyway?
Date: 10 Nov 1992 17:48:27 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services, UBC, Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: swiss.ucs.ubc.ca

 Finally got a chance to try out the 486SX model PS/1 yesterday.
 I was suitably impressed with the speed on a few tests of
 real-slow-on-a-286 things, but I still have this nagging thing
 about the specs in my mind.  This model is rated at only 20 MHz.
 Virtually every 486SX in North America is 25 MHz; why did IBM
 select the slower speed, and how significant is clock speed
 anyway?  Is it likely that IBM made a very poor choice somewhere
 else in the architecture, and had to run 20% slower to compensate?
 Or is it instead possible that the slower clock speed means
 relatively little in the overall environment?  For that matter,
 with so many 386DX 33's, what makes even a 486SX 25 an
 improvement?
Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: karkan@msdrl.com (Jim Karkanias)
Subject: Re: Touchtone Phone
Organization: Merck Research Laboratories
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 02:41:07 GMT

j1h9453@eagle.tamu.edu (Joel Andrew Huddleston) writes:
: In article <Bx8J5E.51q@kingston.ac.uk>, cs_e373@ceres (Matthew Simpkin) writes:
: |> karkan@msdrl.com (Jim Karkanias) writes:
: |> : I would like to be able to dial into a PC from a touchtone
: |> : phone, wade through a menu or two ("...press 1 for ..., 2
: |> : for ...), and THEN have my keystrokes (buttonstrokes?) from
: |> : the phone saved to some sort of file on the PC for later
: |> : processing (e.g. the file could contain ASCII 14325 or
: |> : whatever was pressed, etc.).  The whole thing could be
: |> : terminated by a pound sign or hang-up, etc.  (upon which any
: |> : files which were opened would be closed, etc.)
: |> : 
: |> : Anyone know how to do this??  Thank you.
: |> : 
: |> : Jim
: 
: 
: |> WHY ?
: 
: Well, in Byte magazine March 1985, Steve Ciarcia describes how
: to do this.  It required a special modem chip and board which he
: built and shows how to build in the article.  You will also need
: the followup article in the next month's issue which has all the
: software.  The modem chip he used was pretty high tech for the
: time.  It was an 8250 and hayes modem all on one chip.  It could
: send and detect touch-tone (tm) signals and one version of the
: chip had a text to voice synthesizer.  The board also had audio
: in/out lines so you could record responses or play any audio
: source to the incoming call.  All in all, it was a cute project.
: 
: As for the why, I can think of several reasons: Automated polling
: both dial-in and dial-out (obnoxious, please don't do this.)  You
: could use it as a call up information service.  One of my
: favorites is remote contol for electronics at home but that would
: require a great deal of circuit building and programming.
: 
: -- 
: Joel Huddleston  eka zod@tamu.edu
:      Peace: Not just the absence of war but the absence of fear.
:        War: Not just the absence of peace but the absence of cowardice.
: Disclaimer: Not just the absence of blame but the absence of responsibility.


Thanks for the info.  I'm setting up a system which will page an engineer when
it wants him (or her).  Current pager technology only permit a page to get
through about 60-70% of the time.  While high, this isn't good enough so the
system will repeatedly attempt a page (pages fail because of metal content in
the walls so if he moves...) until the engineer finds a phone and confirms
receipt of the page (by dialing a code).


Jim
From: lcc@po.CWRU.Edu (Lih C. Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: LOOKING FOR HELP WITH AT&T 6386 WGS Personal Computer
Date: 9 Nov 1992 07:53:41 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: lcc@po.CWRU.Edu (Lih C. Chen)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


If you have one of these machines, and have added simms to it, please
let me know, I have some questions, esp regarding what size simms
I can use, and how many of that size I can use at once...etc..

and also, i'd like to talk with you about problems with the computer,
etc...

please email me!
thanks!


-- 
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                          If you got a blacklist, I want to be on it--BB
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Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: hymowitz@whatever.cs.jhu.edu (Hymie!)
Subject: Re: leaving it on?
Organization: Creative Sensualities dept, Jacquie's House of Underwear
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:51:41 GMT

and lo, there was much rejoicing among the people, as
  cording@sorokin.anu.edu.au (Dean Cording) writes:
>bs338@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael T. Biehl) writes:
>
>
>>Is it best to leave your pc on all the time or just turn it on 
>>when you need it then turn it off.  Reason I ask is becouse I 
>>heard that every time you turn your pc on and off you lose 
>>a day of its life.
>
>The best option is to turn it on when you need it and turn it off
>when you think you won't need it for a while.  That is, if you need
>it now for 5 minutes and possibly in an hour or so then leave it on,
>but if you won't need it until tommorrow then turn it off.

don't necessarily take this advice as gospel.

i have a seagate (?) hard drive, and i (and other people who mentioned
this the last time this question came up) have to leave the thing on all
the time.  if i turn it off, it takes a lot of fiddling with the wires
to get it to turn back on.  in fact, i'll be on vacation for a week, and
the thing will be on the whole time.

i live in fear of a power outage. :)

--hymie
hymowitz@cs.jhu.edu                                         hymie@jhuvms.bitnet
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Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.protocols.misc,comp.protocols.iso
From: mpeters@pax.eunet.ch (MBX Michael Peters)
Subject: Re: X.25 POP - Tymnet?
Organization: EUnet Login/Mailbox Service
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:16:26 GMT


What I needed (and didn't know) was that I needed a NUI. Then I could use 
any Public or Private net. Thanks to folks a BT for lettin me know that.

The local PTT supplies, or there are numbers for just Tymenet.

Cheers,
m.
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From: cording@sorokin.anu.edu.au (Dean Cording)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Re: leaving it on?
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:17:28 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.12

bs338@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael T. Biehl) writes:


>Is it best to leave your pc on all the time or just turn it on 
>when you need it then turn it off.  Reason I ask is becouse I 
>heard that every time you turn your pc on and off you lose 
>a day of its life.

The best option is to turn it on when you need it and turn it off
when you think you won't need it for a while.  That is, if you need
it now for 5 minutes and possibly in an hour or so then leave it on,
but if you won't need it until tommorrow then turn it off.

At our site we have investigated this problem.  We have about 100 machines
over 18 months old - half of which have rarely been turned off in that time.
Last summer the building staff insisted on turning off all machines over the
weekend.  Almost all of the monitors that had been left on continuously
failed within a week with blown power supplies. The other monitors were
unaffected.  There did not appear to be any problem with the machines.

Considering that the life of a machine is nearly 20 years turning the
machine on and off every day will only reduce this to 10 years, if
what you say holds, I don't think it will cause you any problems.

Basically, you can leave a machine on continously or you can switch it
on and off everyday, but doing both will cause problems.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dean Cording
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Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.sources.wanted,alt.sources.wanted,comp.archives.admin,news.answers
From: Giovanni Resta <resta@iei.pi.cnr.it>
Subject: Print PS on Mac ?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A727D8C3EA010377@mac-resta.iei.pi.cnr.it>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 12 Nov 92 09: 47:47 GMT
Organization: IEI-CNR
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 08:43:37 GMT

Hi,
I use a macintosh se/30 with system 7.0. 
Often I download technical reports with the extension .ps.Z and
after the successful decompression I try to print them on the Laserwriter
with the utility 'PS Printer'.(the other utility that I have,
Send PS, does not work with system 7.0)
The problem is that quite always it prints the papers only from page 2
or page 3. (sometimes it prints only a bounch of white pages)
Another major problem is that there is no way to know how
many pages long is the document, and to tell the program to print it,
 for example, from page 4 to page 33 only.

Can someone suggest me another better postscript printing utility ?
(and where can I anonymous-ftp-get it)
(of course if you have such a program, if it is small, and if you
are using Lee Mail, you can just send me it in an enclosure .....)

Giovanni Resta
resta@iei.pi.cnr.it
Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.sources.wanted,alt.sources.wanted,news.answers
From: cholette@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Cholette Martin)
Subject: ************ Comp. Architecture Project HELP *****************
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:57:00 GMT



Hello everyone!

 I have a class in computer architecture, and I have to make an oral
 and written presentation for my class project. I can choose whatever
 subject I want ( subject to approval of course ) that is related to
 comp. architecture. My oral presentation must be between 30 - 50 minutes,
 and the written report must be 10-20 pages. I am a 3rd year comp. sci.
 student. 

 Does anyone have any suggestions as to which topic I should choose?
 I am looking for something recent and hopefully " cool and interesting "
 I would prefer to do it on a topic that is relatively unknown, hence
 my difficulty in finding a subject. I would appreciate any insight!

 Thanks a million!

 Martin Cholette
 cholette@jsp.umontreal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.sources.wanted,alt.sources.wanted,news.answers
From: ulpf@sbustd.rz.uni-sb.de (Ulrich Pfingstag)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Printing envelopes with w4w + Deskjet 500
Date: 6 Nov 92 12:25:44 GMT
Organization: Studenten-Mail, Rechenzentrum Universitaet des Saarlandes

Uli


Newsgroups: comp.misc
From: daniel@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Daniel Ruan)
Subject: alt.bbs Nixpub listing wanted
Originator: daniel@air
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 03:34:59 GMT
From: eandersn@mach1.wlu.ca (Niels Ejvind Andersen)
Subject: Re: WANTED: word perfect-> ascii converter
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:17:22 GMT

Sean Judge (judgesp@craft.camp.clarkson.edu) wrote:
: Can someone please tell me where I might get such a beast? Or point
: me in the right direction.

WordPerfect has such a facility built in, if I understand your question
correctly.  Load the document into WordPerfect, press Text In/Out (Control-F5),
then T(ext), then S(ave).  WordPerfect will ask you to name the output file,
and then it will save a text version (also known as Ascii) for you.
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From: hariot@bumetb.bu.edu (James OMahony)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Educational Opportunities
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:12:00 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Boston University
Originator: hariot@bumetb.bu.edu


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From: agr00@ccc.amdahl.com (Anthony G Rose)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: PC to swap for laptop
Date: 12 Nov 92 06:36:14 GMT
Reply-To: agr00@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (TONY ROSE)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA



I currently have:  IBM PC Compatible with:   42M Hard Disk Drive
                                             3.5 1.44M HD Disk Drive
                                             5.25 1.2M HD Disk Drive
                                             VGA Monitor
                                             1MB RAM
                                             101 Key Keyboard
                                             2400 External Modem
                                             Panasonic Dot Matrix Printer
                                             MPU-401 Roland MIDI Card
                                             Mouse Systems Mouse
                                             Parallel & Serial Card
                                             Software & More!


I would be interested in swapping with someone for a laptop of similar value.
From: agr00@ccc.amdahl.com (Anthony G Rose)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: PC and MIDI Keyboard to trade for Laptop
Date: 13 Nov 92 04:55:49 GMT
Reply-To: agr00@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (TONY ROSE)
Distribution: ba
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA


I need a laptop computer.  Preferrably a 386 that is not huge.
I have the following items that I am willing to work out a trade of some
kind if anyone is interested.  This a a good MIDI setup, with a Peavey
amp, and ROLAND D-5 Keyboard, and a 286 IBM comp. system.  Please let me
know if anyone is interested in this sort of an offer.

ROLAND D-5 MULTI-TIMBRAL KEYBOARD
-Great MIDI Instrument!

PEAVEY KB 60 KEYBOARD AMP
-50W High/Low Gain
-2 Channel Input
-Equalization
-And More!
-Used rarely and in excellent condition

IBM PC Compatible with:   42M Hard Disk Drive
                          80286 12MHz upross
                          3.5 1.44M HD Disk Drive
                          5.25 1.2M HD Disk Drive
                          VGA Monitor
                          1MB RAM
                          101 Key Keyboard
                          2400 External Modem
                          Panasonic Dot Matrix Printer
                          MPU-401 Roland MIDI Card
                          Mouse Systems Mouse
                          Parallel & Serial Card
                          Software & More!
Newsgroups: comp.misc