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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1992 04:17:02 -0400
From:         gaynet@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
Subject:      GayNet Digest Volume 5 Issue 664

In this issue:
                             Brain Blumberg
              Travel around the World-Economists-Belgium-
                               Ross Perot
                    GayNet Digest Volume 5 Issue 660
                             I will survive
                             Clinton video
                   contact info for Forgotten Scouts
                             Lavendar Vitae
                           Voting statistics
                        OLTL names and addresses

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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 13:13:38 PDT
From: jav@Sitka.Sun.COM (Joyce Vanderpoorten)
Subject: Brain Blumberg

Brian Blumberg's e-mail address is b_blumberg@macsch.com.

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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 92 16:27:52 EDT
From: "Phil. Barla" <IB8@CORNELLA.cit.cornell.edu>
Subject:      Travel around the World-Economists-Belgium-

Hello,

I'm finishing this year (or hoping to) grad school in economics and
i am thinking about next year.  At this point, I hesitate between two
possibilities :1-take one year off and travel around the world to reconnect
to the real world (after the books, the reality) or 2- find a job.

At this stage my dream of travel is very vague and i was wondering if anyboby
on the net would have any inputs, experience or would share the same dream.  I
have no idea about the cost, the possibilities of works for short period of
time...I also would like to have some sort of project that i would realize
during that year to keep me going when i get home sick...any suggestion?


The other possibility is find a job so are there any economists on the net for
networking?

Finally, anybody from belgium (it's my home country) ?

Thanks in advance, E-mail me directly.

Philippe Barla
Cornell University.

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From: buckmr@rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: Ross Perot
Distribution: local
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:50:17 GMT

<MARKD@urjwc.ucla.edu> writes:

>    Any comments or suggestions as to what we can do to combat this?
Don't vote for the f*cker!

[NBC reported Thursday thta Ross Perot has spent $3 million since announcing
the suspension of his candidacy and is on the ballot in California AND New
York]

-
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
"In 1988 1800 homosexuals were dischaged from the military. The cost to train
them was $23 000 000. 35% of those discharged were women. Women make up only
5% of the military. " -- MTV's _Buzz_.

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From: buckmr@rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: GayNet Digest Volume 5 Issue 660
Distribution: local
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:55:18 GMT

georgick@hal.hahnemann.edu writes:

>Ron-

>in response to pat buchanan's statement about feminism causing women to leave
>their husbands, kill children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and
>become lesbians a friend of mine noted, "well, four out of five ain't bad.  we
>don't kill children unless he is talking about abortion".
Heh. Just one thing: It was Pat ROBERTSON, not Buchanan. We must get our
bigots ``straight'' [so to speak!]. :-)

-
RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735.  ***Clinton-Gore 92***
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
"Dick--my bottom hurts just thinking about it!" - MADONNA, _Dick Tracy_ sndtrck

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From: buckmr@rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: I will survive
Distribution: local
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:11:42 GMT

"GEOFFREY SCHRAMM" <gschramm@gmuvax.gmu.edu> writes:

>	Also... while I'm on here... a big humongous *SNAP* goes to Mark
>H. for reading those people who printed the heinous nickname of Greg Louganis.
>Can we say internailzed homophobia, kiddies?
Oh, Puhleeze! I didn't see it that way at all. Richard stated initially that
he didn't want to post it to Gaynet. Then he got such a large number of
personal messages requestig the nickname from nosy queens that he finally
went and posted it. I don't think EVERYTHING has to be taken seriously and
that pulling out the ol' ``internalised homophobia'' canard at the drop of a
hat is really silly. how do YOU know what homophobia someone else has
INTERNALISED? Especially in such a brief exchange.
>	George Mason University GLSA (soon to become GMU Lesbigay) is already
>planning on sending a contingency to the 1993 March for Gay, Lesbian and
>Bisexual Rights. Since we are located right outside the District, we have easy
>access to it (that makes sense, huh?). I, personally, would be happy to
>answer any questions concerning lodging, events, dates, etc with anybody.
>Maybe we could have a BAMF contingent going. That would be completely cool!
Is GMU involved at all with the Washingtno Area College Queers who are
(hopefully) supposed to be organisnig the TENTH ANNUAL North Eastern Lesbian
gay Bisexual Student alliance Conference April 23 and 24 in DC? There are
 contact numbers in /pub/QRD/nelgbsa/wacq if you need to find out more..

>p.s. I will transfer this cool article on Frankie Knuckles (entitled _The House
>that Frankie Built_) from the Brit mag _Gay Times_. It is great, espcially the
>fact that he is openly gay (does he still play the Sound Factory on Saturdays
>in NYC? When I was there, I was graced by his slick hands...). WORK OUT! g-
Therewas a cool article on Messr Knuckles that appeared in THE ADVOCATE [yes,
dears, it's getting better) in the last 3-4 issues.

>"When I die/Honey chile'/my angels will be tall/black drag queens..."
>Essex Hemphill just for you, Ron.:-)
Thanks! [I'm hoping that I'm not the only one who will then go out and buy
Esx's latest work: _Ceremonies_ and become enthralled]

-
RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735. "D.C. in '93!"
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
"A visceral recoil from homosexuality is the natural reaction of a healthy
society wishing to preserve itself." Pat Buchanan, March 27, 1991, N.Y. POST

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From: buckmr@rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: Clinton video
Distribution: local
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:18:08 GMT

jasonl5493@aol.com writes:

>Governor Pete Wilson's veto of the gay rights bill.  It's a great feeling to
>relive the moment when we were able to march on any Los Angeles streets we
>wanted and the police had to block traffic as we decided on the spot where to
>go!
Get used to that feeling and you may re-live it sooner than you think if
Petie vetoes AB2601 [I'm suer yu already have called to get him to sign the
thing but just in case:

                      Support AB 2601
I see that our friend Lou Sheldon is already gearing up for his holy war
against AB 2601, which would ban job discrimination based on sexual
orientation.  You should remember that AB 2601 is the re-worked version od AB
101, which Sneaky Pete Wilson vetoed (despite his campaign promise to sign it)
last year, claiming it would be "bad for business."

Call, write, or fax Gov. Wilson and urge him to sign AB 2601.  If you are a
Californian, tell him how it would make you fell more secure in your job.
After all, we have a right to work, too.  If you are from one of the states
that already has such a law, tell him how it has improved your job security.
Anyone from outside California can threaten an economic boycott of California
products and tourism, claiming it would be "bad for business."

You can reach Governor Pete Wilson at:
State Capital
Sacramento, CA  95814
voice (916) 445-2841
fax (916) 445-4633
Los Angeles office (213) 897-0322

 Chad Jones
 UCLA Department of Physiological Science
 cjones@kines.ucla.edu
 "Ut scis te observare marmotam monacem ipsam?"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Chad! Translate this, honey!
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--
RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735. "D.C. in '93!"
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
"A visceral recoil from homosexuality is the natural reaction of a healthy
society wishing to preserve itself." Pat Buchanan, March 27, 1991, N.Y. POST

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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:17:37 -0700
From: jnrg@ocf.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: contact info for Forgotten Scouts

    Contact info, as requested, for Forgotten Scouts:
Telephone: 415-626-8299.
Fax: 415-626-8298.
N.B. When I've tried to fax, I've usually sorta taken by surprise a live
person who
answered the phone, but when you tell them you're wanting to fax to
Forgotten
Scouts, they switch it over.  So, methinks they use that number as both
phone
and fax and have to switch it manually, so don't set up to auto-fax to them
without first
verifying that with them.

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Date: 28 Aug 1992 19:19:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: romickle@vaxsar.vassar.edu
Subject: Lavendar Vitae

Hey y'all!
Just getting back into the swing of things coming back from the American
Sociological Association meeting (where I met a few other fellow Netters)
and getting ready for the start of classes.

At the Sociologists' Lesbian and Gay Caucus at the ASA meeting, the subject
of "lavendar vitae" was briefly discussed--just what impact would a resume
full of "gay"  activities have?  As I thought about my past activities, I
quickly realized that they mostly had two common themes: things dealing
with race and things dealing with queerness.  PANIC!

I'm soliciting the advise of our Net sages who have undoubtedly encountered
the dilemma of wanting to be out yet not wanting to jeapordize their
chances at a job, a grant, etc.  I'm sure what you have to say will be of
interest to many of us who are applying to graduate and professional
schools, starting a job search, or applying for grants (i.e., Rhodes,
Marshall, Fulbright).  Let's hear from you!
Derrick Mickle      |"Girlfriend in a coma, I know, I know, it's SERIOUS."
romickle@vassar.edu |   --Morrissey

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From: <MARKD@urjwc.ucla.edu>
Subject: Voting statistics
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 16:20:00 PDT
Encoding: 24 TEXT

Hi,
    I watched HBO's "Citizen Cohn" the other night, and in part of the movie,
they were discussing Kennedy's victory over Nixon.  One of the characters
mentioned that Kennedy had squeaked by with about 120,000 votes.  Another
character mentioned that that is the equivalent to the town of Patterson, NJ.
    Not many votes, people, and they made one hell of a difference.
    Voter registration and turnout has declined 6 percent over the past eight
years.  Only 69 percent of Americans are registered to vote, and of that 69
percent, only 72 percent cast ballots in the last presidential election.
    SOOO, that means about 50 percent of Americans voted in the last
election, which means that the "national mandate" the George Herbert (Hoover)
Walker Bush/J. Danforth Quayle ticket received was from about 26 percent of
the American electorate.
    But let's face it, it was enough, wasn't it?
    You've still got a few more weeks.  Hound your friends until they
register out of sheer irritation, then hound them to vote.  Don't wait,
there's not much time.

Mark from Los Angeles where only 13 percent of registered voters cast ballots
       for the current mayor in the last election.

"We will get the country we deserve." -- Thomas Jefferson

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Date:      Fri, 28 Aug 92 17:59:53 PDT
From: "Mark" <AH.PBL@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: OLTL names and addresses

        Now that the "gay teen" storyline is coming to an end, I still
        haven't written to the producers of "One Live to Live" to
        thank them for a *wonderful* show.  Or at least, a wonderful
        story.  Actually, I fast-forward past all of the unrelated
        stories: it really is a stupid show.  I hope that everyone
        else who has watched OLTL or has been reading the summaries
        that have been posted here (thanks, guys!) also writes to the
        show's producers.  The various subjects that they have touched
        on over the past few months are amazing: Gay teens, gay
        adults, AIDS, parents with gay children, gay bashing,
        questions of privacy, teen suicide, The Names Project,
        homophobia, gay sex.  All of these subjects were handled in a
        very (surprisingly) realistic manner (especially for a TV soap
        opera). I certainly wasn't expecting to be glued to my TV set
        to watch a daytime soap opera, but they did such a good job, I
        was hooked! (Of course, the fact that Billy is *adorable*
        probably helped to keep my attention, too.  Not to mention his
        pal, Joey.)

        Does someone happen to know the names and addresses that we
        should write to?

         -- Mark

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