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From: cegtitd@prism.gatech.EDU (Tim Dodd)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Worst TNG episodes (was Re: Justice)
Date: 26 Aug 92 13:35:27 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <64658@cup.portal.com> TheMadDoctor@cup.portal.com (Shane Derek Killian) writes:
))"Qpid" the most vile?  I think you're overlooking "Imaginary Friend" (which,
))probably not coincidentally, had Alexander in it).  Truly, the absolute,
))god-awfulest ST episode EVER.  Bad plot, bad acting, bad for us!
)
)That episode, I'm almost certain, was either written by the Marquis de
)Sade or by Dr. Clayton Forrester.

What's the matter with you people?  Have you forgotten "Shades of Grey" and
"Cost of Living"?

-- 
"It is still an unending source of surprise for me to see how a few
scribbles on a blackboard or on a sheet of paper could change the
course of human affairs."   -- Stanislaw Ulam
Tim Dodd, Research Scientist, Georgia Tech  cegtitd@prism.gatech.edu
From: Sem_Hoelscher@hb.maus.de (Sem Hoelscher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Manhunt
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 12:22:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.11

-A57971@HB

Shacha Keith!

I totally agree with you! Especially Data giving lectures ... Probably the
first (and last?) time, Picard was happy about this habit of Data!? GRIN!
It was =very= funny!

But Lwaxana Troi usually is very funny, and in combination with Data ...
Do you remember the "exchange" at the dinner/reception when Deanna was to
marry? And then Data: "Would you please continue?" (At least, that's what
he says in the German version.) Big grin! And poor Picard carrying the bag?

Oyori - Sem [grinning in Northern Germany]
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From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek
Subject: Re: Stardates--from the horse's mouth
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:13:36 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <1992Sep2.061437.2751@nntp.uoregon.edu> eisimps@cie.uoregon.edu (Eileen Simpson) writes:
>Actually, the staff writers from Paramount cut off questions about
>Stardates at the seminar.  They expressly told us not to worry about the
>technical stuff and to spend our time on plot and dialogue.  They seemed
>quite bored by the questions even though the audience was curious.

This is pretty funny since the show certainly hasn't seemed to have focused
much on plot and dialogue in the *last* five years... :-)

-- 
Michael Rawdon	    rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu  [Note new address!]
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

    "What about you, Captain?" Krill asked.  "Do you seek death, or do you
run away from it?
    "Neither," Kiroth answered.  "Death seeks me.  It will find me in time.  
To run is simply a waste of energy.  To embrace death is sheer madness.  I 
await death.  When it comes, I will be ready."
    "To fight, or to flee?"
    Kiroth looked at his XO with barely contained horror.  "To die."
		- "Escape From The Holdfast", by Jim Hart; Captain's Log #8
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: jcm3r@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Spaceman SPiff)
Subject: Re: Patrick Stewart
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:30:25 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.040230.16784@adx.adelphi.edu> ricky@adx.adelphi.edu (Ricky Glass) writes:
>I think it was more than a modest role.  He was in at least 3 of the 12
>installments.
>
>There was this sci-fi movie (relitively recent) where Patrick Stewart
>did have a minor role as the director of a mental institution.  I don't
>remember the name of the movie but they find 2 males, 1 female floating
>in space.  After being brought to earth, they turn people into vampires.
>I know, this describes about a kazillion movies but it could ahve been
>worse. :-)
>
>Ricky
>-- 

wasn't the name of this Movie _Lifeforce_ or something like that.  It
involved a european space shuttle like thing going to visit the nucleus
of Halley's Comet.  What role did Stewart have?


--
John C. Martin
 University of Virginia, Astrophysics; CLAS II
 jcm3r@faraday.clas.virginia.edu
From: frandag@math.ksu.edu (Francis Fung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Woman from Booby Trap in Disney movie
Date: 30 Aug 92 05:15:09 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Mathematics, Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: hilbert.math.ksu.edu

Susan Gibney, who played the attractive (sigh) scientist in the holodeck
who worked with Geordi, and later the real Leah Brahms in Galaxy's Child, 
was in a Disney movie that I saw Friday night on Disney Channel. In the
movie "And You Thought Your Parents Were Weird", about two kids who invent
a robot which their dead dad's spirit comes to inhabit, she plays a TV
reporter bent on getting the scoop of the robot story. Yeah, it's about
as strange as it sounds. I had a good time watching it.
Anyone know of other work she's done?
Francis Fung
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From: pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: Prime Directive
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 23:59:52 EDT
Organization: Berry Communications

shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich) writes:

> I always wondered how the Federation enforces the Prime Directive. The show
> makes it perfectly clear that there are numerous privately owned warp-capable
> ships besides the Starfleet ones. I can't see how the Federation can prevent
> even its own citizens from meddling with developing civilizations, unless: a)

They don't, because private citizens aren't bound by the Prime
Directive.  It applies only to Starfleet personnel (see "Angel One").

-- 
Pat Berry - Cary, North Carolina, USA   | Dave Barry for President
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From: alexv@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Prime Directive
Date: 30 Aug 92 03:29:55 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

In article <94681@bu.edu>, shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich) writes:
> I always wondered how the Federation enforces the Prime Directive. The show
> makes it perfectly clear that there are numerous privately owned warp-capable
> ships besides the Starfleet ones. I can't see how the Federation can prevent
> even its own citizens from meddling with developing civilizations, unless: a)
> it has a military satellite in orbit around every such world or b) it is being
> extremely hypocritical or c) the script writers haven't thought out the details
> when they put in the Prime Directive.
> 
> Of course it is "c", but still, it would be very interesting to know if this
> problem has ever been tackled somewhere (certainly not in the TV shows,
> novels, perhaps?)
> 
> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> // Ryan: What is it to you, demon?       //// Sergei Shimkevich             //
> // Lune: It is Sir, Demon to you, worm!  //// shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu        //
> // -Phantasy Star III                    ////                               // 

actually, it has been dealt with in a novel.  In the novel 'metamorphesis'
which deals mostly with Data, a group of mercenaries under the lead of  Darryl
Adin(who has appeared in the series once has tasha's boyfried) helps a 
planet that he should not of according to ther prime directive.  They say thast
he is not under the constraints of the prime directive.  It woul;d seem that
omnly military vessels are under constrictions bey the prime directive.  
-AlexV
From: cegtitd@prism.gatech.EDU (Tim Dodd)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: What would you do with the power of the Q ?
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:59:24 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Aug27.172754.20248@bnlux1.bnl.gov) schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
)In article <1992Aug26.143139.2786@midway.uchicago.edu) mjm4@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
))
))I'd use the power of the Q to shrink the size of Troi's butt.
)
)Y'know, it's amazing the kind of abuse Sirtis takes on this group over
)her physical features.  The woman is in no way overweight.  She is a
)woman.  Women have hips, unlike the models we Americans constantly have
)shoved in our faces that are built like little school boys.  These

Nah....  I've seen some fat models who are nowhere near as large as
Troi!

-- 
"Truth is under all circumstances more valuable than nontruth, and this
must apply to truth in the realm of history as to other kinds of truth."
  -- Albert Schweitzer, _Out of My Life and Thought_
Tim Dodd, Research Scientist, Georgia Tech  cegtitd@prism.gatech.edu
From: eisimps@cie.uoregon.edu (Eileen Simpson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: dead languages
Date: 4 Sep 92 07:01:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: nntp.1992Sep4.070154.14974
Expires: It was French.
Organization: University of Oregon Campus Information Exchange

In article <183ajrINN852@agate.berkeley.edu> jacob@plasma2.ssl.berkeley.edu (Jamey Jacob) writes:
>My memory on this is vague, but does anyone remember an episode
>where a 20th century language was used that nobody knew, and the
>Data or someone remarked that it was an old language that died
>out in the 21st century or so.  It was something common like
>German or Spanish.  What language was it and what episode?

The language was French, and Data's remark was made to Picard (Riker told
him to drop it).  As I recall it was the episode where Yar was kidnapped
and had to fight another woman.  Can't remember the name of the show.
From: pjb4288@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Pete - Toonatic - Boulay)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Star Ships of the Third Fleet
Date: 1 Sep 92 02:52:54 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Originator: pjb4288@ultb

Greetings r.a.s.m'ers,

	Its been rumored that a lot of people on the net are fantastic and
fun writers. Well, I have the group for you.

One Trek-related group I've belonged too for the past two years is called
Star Ships of the Third Fleet, based out of Santee, California.

It is a group that has ranks, ship positions, fantastic starships, and a 
wonderful crew on each ship.  It is based on monthly correspondence between
the Captain and the crew.  We conduct missions that really allow you to 
explore your writing abilities in a fun way.

It also has a Third Fleet Academy at which you can take courses in 
Engineering, Medical, Starship Operations, and even Xenobiology. I am in the
midst of developing a Klingon language course for the Academy.

If you're interested, please write me mail at pjb4288@ritvax.isc.rit.edu andI'd be happy to send you the address.  I can't praise this group enough- it's
a blast!

Lt. Peter J. Boulay
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From: jacob@plasma2.ssl.berkeley.edu (Jamey Jacob)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: dead languages
Date: 2 Sep 1992 21:10:19 GMT
Organization: UCB Space Sciences Lab
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: plasma2.ssl.berkeley.edu

My memory on this is vague, but does anyone remember an episode
where a 20th century language was used that nobody knew, and the
Data or someone remarked that it was an old language that died
out in the 21st century or so.  It was something common like
German or Spanish.  What language was it and what episode?

Thanks....


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From: mitchm@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mitchell Maltenfort)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Prime Directive
Date: 27 Aug 92 02:25:41 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <94681@bu.edu> shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich) writes:
>I always wondered how the Federation enforces the Prime Directive. The show
>makes it perfectly clear that there are numerous privately owned warp-capable
>ships besides the Starfleet ones. I can't see how the Federation can prevent
>even its own citizens from meddling with developing civilizations, unless: a)
>it has a military satellite in orbit around every such world or b) it is being
>extremely hypocritical or c) the script writers haven't thought out the details
>when they put in the Prime Directive.
>

	To nitpick: is the Prime Directive a law governing Federation space,
or a law governng the conduct of Starfleet?  It might be that arresting a
Cyrano Jones for breaking the Prime Directive is like arresting a civilian for
conduct unbecoming an officer.

Mitchell Maltenfort	Northwestern Unversity	Chicago, Illinois

"Mean, cruel, nasty, paranoid, antisocial... but basically happy."

Internet: mgm@nwu.edu		Bitnet:mitchm@nuacvm.acns.nwu.edu
From: wwo@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (Thomas Schoene)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Patrick Stewart's one man Shows
Date: 30 Aug 92 16:50:46 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

In article <Btn9J7.4tz@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>,
dp66@mc4adm.UWaterloo.ca (Kevin L. Oberle) writes: 
> There was alot of discussion regarding Patrick Stewart's one man
> performance of "A Christmas Carol" last December, not to mention
> Tim Lynch's review.  I have heard mention that he may be taking
> the show to New York this coming winter.
> 
> Can anyone out there confirm this yet?  If so, any idea as to
> where it will be showing?  And where might one obtain tickets
> (if not living in or near NY city)?
I had heard that he was considering NOT doing "A Christmas Carol" since he has
been developing another one man show.  Called "Uneasy rests the head" or
something like that it is suposed to be a collection of soliloquies from
Shakespeare (and possibly other sources) on leaders, leadership, and the perils
of both.  Since TNG limits Stewart's time I understood that he would have to do
one or the other.
-- 
Tom Schoene
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From: sknkwrks@unlv.edu (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: Jack Crusher
Organization: Skunk Works Software Co.
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 23:28:39 GMT

In article <MecIJa_00WBKI3a4MC@andrew.cmu.edu> Archie Lee Moberly <am4v+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Later, when Wesley first applies to the academy and takes the
>psychological exam, we learn that Jack and at least one other person
>were in trouble.  When a choice was made as to who got saved (since
>apparently there was only enough time to save one), Jack lost out for
>some reason.  Finally, Wes says, "Because Captain Pi...., because
>someone made that choice and my father died."  This implies that Picard
>was at the scene and made the decsion as to who died.

The novel "Reunion" goes into this matter in more detail.  It recounts
the entire situation that led to Jack Crusher's demise.

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From: fsw@gtech.com (Fred S. Wright)
Subject: Re: Klingon Blade and Name
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:45:27 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.192716.3430@bethel.edu> parbra@leibniz.bethel.edu (Parks) writes:
>
>Greets.  I'm looking for a picture (preferably postscript) of that really
>groovy lookin' Klingon knife and/or even some dimensions.  Also if anybody
>knows the name, it would be really appreciated.  A friend o' mine (art 
>major) makes & designs all kinds of swords and blades and i was thinking of
>asking him to make me one.


The klingon word for dagger is taj.  The word for sword is 'etlh.

-- 
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From: drucker@csa1.lbl.gov (ROBERT B DRUCKER)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Prime Directive
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Date: 27 Aug 92 08:39:24 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
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In article <94681@bu.edu>, shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich) writes...
>I always wondered how the Federation enforces the Prime Directive. The show
>makes it perfectly clear that there are numerous privately owned warp-capable
>ships besides the Starfleet ones. I can't see how the Federation can prevent
>even its own citizens from meddling with developing civilizations, unless: a)
>it has a military satellite in orbit around every such world or b) it is being
>extremely hypocritical or c) the script writers haven't thought out the details
>when they put in the Prime Directive.
> 

     I think that there is evidence in TOS that the Federation does
require  its civilian members to respect the prime directive.

     First of all, no one just flys around the galaxy wherever they darn
well please without filing a flight plan.  Mudd was charged, by Kirk,
for violating this law in "Mudd's Women". It is my theory that certain
planets are marked as accessible to the  general Federation population. 
While other planets are undoubtedly marked as off limits (because they
are too primitive in some way).

     Anyone who flys around exploring uncharted areas or who wishes to
visit a restricted planet is probably  required to take an oath to
uphold the prime directive.  Of course this would include all Star Fleet
members.  But it would also include specially trained scientists and
other types of  researchers.  As evidence of this recall the TOS episode
"Patterns of Force"; Professor John Gill was in BIG trouble for
interfering with the civilization on Ekos (turned them all into nazis if
you recall)...Gill was not Star Fleet.

     I also suspect that many of the same kinds of security measures
that we use today are in effect.  That is to say certain people will
have access to classified information and so they will be specially
trained to know what they can and cannot say.  These people may also be
restricted from traveling to planets uncomfortably close to the neutral
zones.

     None-the-less, small violations of non-interference probably occur
every day.  I imagine though, that your average federation citizen
doesn't own his own phaser... and probably doesn't know how they work
anyway (this is just a guess though).
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 11:41:37 EDT
From: Todd Bobenrieth <TAB129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: TNG Emmy Question

The Next Generation won five awards, I think in the technical dept. and I
was wondering if someone knew which all they won...
I know they won for the episodes, The Unification, A Matter of Time, and
Conundrum. But what did they win...one was costuming, one was music score,
and I don't know what else....help please...
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: grinstea@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (GRINSTEAD CARL FRANK)
Subject: Re: one of the best episodes
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 05:13:29 GMT

"Cause and Effect" is a good episode, but one of my favorites is when
Data was put on trial to determine whether or not he was Star Fleet's 
property or not.

This episode especially from a Comp. Sci. point of view really makes you
think about these machines that we work on and create, and what if some 
day we create a Data?  What are the implications of creating a machine
that can think and be responsible for itself?

CG

-- 
Carl Grinstead			   |
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From: kipper@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Kip Ingram)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Sexism and Plunging Necklines
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:27:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: ut-emx.79126
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

>>On the topic of sexism in ST:TNG, ever notice how even the women in
>>high ranking positions are addressed as 'sir'?  I think that's
>>exceptionally offensive; as if ST:TNG is saying that women can

I found this exceptionally offensive as well.  However, a coworker of mine
informs me that the U.S. military operates in this manner as well; he claims
that it is strictly correct to address a female officer as "sir".  My only
other TV experience with this phenomenon was M*A*S*H, and they addressed
Hotlips as "ma'am".  I don't know if my friend is right or not, but I can
forgive ST:TNG for trying to rigorously follow proper military  protocol.
What I get sick of them doing is trying to tell me how I should think.

>P.S.  I like ``female humans'' better than ``huwomans''.
>      Don't create new words when existing words work.

Well, the word for "male human" is "man", and the word for "female human" 
is "woman".  Don't use more words than are necessary, either.

Folks, why does this business come up so often on this newsgroup?  Every time
I punch in I get this sexism stuff.  Men and women are not identical.  I don't
believe that men are in any way superior *or* inferior to women, but we're not
the same.  Both men and women bring unique contributions to human relationships.
Why can't we all just enjoy the things that make each of us unique and special
and quit all this bickering?  Let's enjoy life instead of making each day some
kind of holy war.

Kip Ingram
kipper@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
From: mcline@terapin.com (Matthew Cline)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Who's got the best beam-out?
Date: 29 Aug 92 16:32:18 GMT
Organization: BBS


        My favorite transporter efect was the one used by that woman
impersonating the devil in "Devil's Due".

Matthew Cline
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 18:02:14 -0400 
From: Archie Lee Moberly <am4v+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Jack Crusher

We know from "Encounter at Farpoint" that Picard may have brought the
body back (I don't exactly remember if that happened).  However, we did
learn from this episode that Picard at least was the first person to
tell Bev and Wes personally that Jack had died.

Later, when Wesley first applies to the academy and takes the
psychological exam, we learn that Jack and at least one other person
were in trouble.  When a choice was made as to who got saved (since
apparently there was only enough time to save one), Jack lost out for
some reason.  Finally, Wes says, "Because Captain Pi...., because
someone made that choice and my father died."  This implies that Picard
was at the scene and made the decsion as to who died.

That's all I can rmember off-hand.  Hope this helps.

-Arch Moberly, Jr.
 am4v@andrew.cmu.edu