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From: barnhart@gagme.chi.il.us (Aaron Barnhart)
Subject: IPS: NAMIBIA: MEDIA CONFERENCE ANGERED B
Originator: barnhart@gagme
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:51:46 GMT

Title: NAMIBIA: MEDIA CONFERENCE ANGERED BY DEATH THREATS


an inter press service feature

by jowie mwiinga

windhoek, aug 17 ips - the recently-formed media institute for
southern africa (misa) has reacted angrily to sunday evening's
anonymous threats on the life of a malawian journalist elected
to the institute's council.

only hours after the misa passed resolutions critical of the
malawi government's excessive press controls, aldrin osman,
publisher and chief executive of malawi's independent 'financial
post' received two death threats at windhoek's intercontinental
hotel, where he was staying.

the conference had condemned, amongst other things, detention
without trail in malawi, restrictions on the admittance of
foreign journalists to malawi and the detention of people in
that country ''for merely talking to the media''.

comprising representatives from southern africa development
coordination conference (sadcc) 10 member states, the main
objective of misa is to promote ''a free, independent and
pluralistic media'' in the sub-region.

the first threat on osman's life was channelled through
institute chairperson gwen lister, a respected and long-serving
journalist in namibia's media circles.

the second threat came in the form of a warning from an
anonymous caller who told osman in chichewa (one of malawi's
national languages) that the malawian government intended to
arrest him on his return to malawi.

delegates at the media institute believe the malawi
government was angered by resolutions critical of life president
kamuzu banda's government.

fred mmembe, managing director of zambia's independent
newspaper, 'the weekly post', described as ''barbaric'', the
behaviour of the malawi government.

'it clearly shows that the worries members of the conference
expressed about malawi are justified,'' he said.

''there were worse things said about other countries where
conditions are better than in malawi, and no such reaction came
from those governments'', mmembe argued, adding that the
institute would do ''everything possible'' to protect osman from
harrassment. (more/ips)


-- 
Aaron (Barnhart@gagme.chi.il.us) -- posting from Evanston, Illinois
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: lkk@panix.com (Larry Kolodney)
Subject: Looking for some friends in the R.S.A.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 02:37:27 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

I know this is a big of a long shot, but if anyone in South Africa is
in touch with the following individuals, could you drop me a line?
Thanks in advance.

Claudia Braude
Kathy Rubenstein

(both are late of Wits Varsity, in their early/mid 20's).


-- 
larry kolodney:(lkk@panix.com) 
_(*#&)#*&%)@(*^%_!*&%^!)*&#+!*&$+!?&%+!*&^_)*&#%)*&^%#+&
The past is not dead, it's not even past.   - Wm. Faulkner
From: Dorothy Morse <dmorse@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Date: 15 Aug 92 09:57 PDT
Subject: SOMALIA! New Free Fax Numbers!
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1471700065:000:2156
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!dmorse    Aug 15 09:57:00 1992


The State Dept. no. we have been faxing is "out of service."  Here are
new numbers to try, for free faxing through SUNET (this has been arranged
by Bernhard Helander of the University of Uppsala):

HJ_Cohen@f00912026476301.fax.sunet.se

   (this is to the Bureau of African Affairs of the State dept.)

Mark_Johnson@f00912026470810.fax.sunet.se

   (this is to the Bureau of East African Affairs of the State Dept.)

Herman Jay Cohen of the first no. is Assistant Secretary for African Affairs

Mark Johnson is Director of Bureau of East African Affairs

Other numbers still appearing to work are to the Secretary General of the UN
Boutros Boutros-Ghali:

Boutros_Ghali@f00912129634879.fax.sunet.se


To the Clinton Campaign HQ:  Bill_Clinton@f00915013722292.fax.sunet.se

GOOD NEWS is:  indications are that the State Dept. fax went "offline" because
of the great number of faxes concerned about Somalia.

IF YOU ARE NEW TO THIS "THREAD":  The numbers above offer FREE FAXING via
SUNET to all users of Internet and Bitnet, about the Somalia crisis--the
worst disaster in the world, where as many as 5000 people are dying each day,
and where aid has been slow in coming.

Our messages now need to emphasize, among other things, quick action in
moving food, etc., and *sustained* action (i.e., it should not slack off
if public attention moves to other things).  For example,

"We urge massive delivery of food and supplies to Somalia by all means
possible, to all ports and airports in the country (not just to the capital
Mogadishu). Millions of people are in immediate danger of starvation and
there must be no delay.

"Such massive aid must continue without interruption or lessening until the Somalian population
is out of danger."

There are many other posts on this somalian topic, of course, from which you
may get information.

IMPORTANT NOTE:

Please remember that AN EFFECTIVE FAX IS POLITE!!
Amnesty International, through years of experience, has found that a serious
polite tone will be heeded.  Threats or rudeness can damage the cause;
please avoid them.
Please see next response for additional suggestion.  Thanks to all who help on 
this.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy)
Subject: E-mail to Tanzania -- help please
Summary: Any one in Tanzania on the net?
Keywords: Tanzania Dar-es-Salaam e-mail
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:09:12 GMT

A friend of mine at the University of Dar-es-Salaam
asked me if I'd post a note here
to see if anyone from Tanzania is on the net.
He is very keen to link if at all possible.
If anyone has any information, or suggestions,
I would be most grateful if you could e-mail them
to me, and I'll pass them on to him.


-- 
Timothy Murphy  
e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie
tel: +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: dmorse@igc.apc.org (Dorothy Morse)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: SUNET faxes from peacent, IGC
Date: 19 Aug 92 02:44:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:cdp:1471700073:cdp:1471700074:000:134
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!dmorse    Aug 18 19:44:00 1992


Forwarded to reg.africa, alt.activism, misc.activism.progressive, pn.alerts,
pn.announcements, hunger.general, and nonviolent.action.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: gavan@ucthpx.uct.ac.za (Gavan Tredoux)
Subject: Re: CRAP FROM UNIV. CAPE TOWN
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 17:29:33 GMT
Reply-To: trdgav01@ucthpx.uct.ac.za
Organization: Depts Math and Philosophy, UCT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

pieter@ford.ee.up.ac.za (Pieter Vermeulen) writes:

: Hey, there is no way we would have allowed Gavan into the Broederbond!
: The guy speaks english. He doesn't know what a koeksister is. He most
: probably does not even own a safari suit. Get real man!

I *do* know what a koeksister is. I'm wearing one right now.
I always thought a safari suit was a libel case held in the bushveld.

: >P.S. Just when will you join the AWB, Gavan, or are you already a member?

: And he is not blond either.

But I have blue eyes. And I goose-step quite well.

------Gavan Tredoux---------------------- 
Dept Mathematics, Dept Philosophy 
University of Cape Town, Rondebosch 7700
From: rcmolden@parmesan.cs.wisc.edu (Robertc. Moldenhauer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: Postings on Islamic and Arabic issues.
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:38:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Aug20.203839.17866
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.

In article <1992Aug12.162307.29772@athena.mit.edu> femibyte@athena.mit.edu (Olufemi G Anthony) writes:
>
>Hi, there, my arab friends. I and I'm sure many other users of this
>newsgroup would appreciate it very much if you would refrain from
>postings articles that do not deal with the African continent
>specifically, for example your postings on Bosnia-Hercegovina and
>Afghanistan etc. I know that you might argue that most of North Africa
>is arab, and also muslim, but surely there are other newsgroups, such
>as soc.culture.arabic and soc.religion.islam, that you can post to.
>
>Thanx,
>Femi.


Perhaps Soc.culture.african needs to be split up, say into 
Soc.culture.african.north and Soc.culture.african.sub-saharan?  Or
perhaps Soc.culture.african .north, .east, .west and .south?

North Africa tends to get ignored too often in these discussions.  It seems
a little silly to have a newsgroup for an entire continent when you have
From: Dorothy Morse <dmorse@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Date: 20 Aug 92 05:47 PDT
Subject: Fax Attack CORRECTION!!!
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1471700079:000:253
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!dmorse    Aug 20 05:47:00 1992


The number posted for Kunder in SOMALIA: Big Fax AttacK" is garbled.

It should be:  James_Kunder@f00912026475269.fax.sunet.se

So if you tried this and it didn't work, my profound apologies for the
incorrect posting.  Hope you will try again.
Dorothy.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: foster@mtechca.maintech.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Ignorance about skin color and sunburn
Date: 22 Aug 92 22:20:14 PST
Organization: MAINTECH, A division of Volt Delta Resources, Inc. Orange, CA

In article <1992Aug20.223509.7577@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, 
(KAMCHAR@ibm.cl.msu.edu) Kamchatka Charlie writes:

> ... the darker the skin color, the better the protection 
> from UV radiation

When I was young I used to think this was correct, that dark-skinned 
people originated in sunny countries, and that dark skin was an
inheiritable permanent tan. I also thought that black people could 
spend all day in the sun and not get sunburnt. I got my complexion 
from my Celtic ancestors (alas, not the Mediterranean ones), so I 
burned a lot, and I envied anyone who could play outside all summer 
with impunity. I had never seen a sunscreen ad that had a black
person in it. (In fact, I still haven't, even in multicultural 1992.)

After I got into college, I mentioned this belief about tanning and 
sunburning to a group of people, one of whom was black. Much Grievous 
Flame! Apparently everything I had ever known about black people was 
wrong, and I was a stupid ignorant unredeemable honkey m*th*rf*ck*r 
as well. I slunk away.

So, without asking anyone, I then went over to the other belief, that
black people were just as susceptible to sunburn as anyone else. Maybe
even more so, since I rarely saw black people at the beach (I didn't 
know at the time about socioeconomic barriers keeping black people away
from places where white people went to have fun.) The slaveowners must 
have been even more cruel than I had thought, in subjecting the slaves 
to skin cancer along with the other indignities I already knew about.

Ten years later, though, someone suggests that dark skin ~is~ a useful 
guard against sunburn. Ten or fifteen replies to Kamchatka Charlie's 
post, many written by black people, have not refuted or flamed his 
assertion. Therefore, it must be more true than not.

Argh! 

Until now, I had no way of finding out what was true, though, because 
I didn't dare ask anyone who would know (ie, a black person) for fear 
of more Grievous Flaming in Person. I could find no reading material 
that would answer my question - magazine articles and newspaper opinions 
only wanted to discuss poverty, crime, racism and affirmative action, 
not things like sunburn and tanning. I didn't know s.c.a.a. existed at 
that time; and even now I fear I may be misusing it by asking this 
question. Like someone wrote in disgust a couple of months ago, s.c.a.a. 
is supposed to be a forum for African Americans to talk to each other, 
not for European Americans to flaunt our ignorance.

So when ~was~ I an ignorant white m*th*rf*ck*r? Before my freshman 
year, or from my freshman year until now, or from now until I die? 

Jeff "and really, my mother and I are not ~that~ close" Foster
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
From: frankli@seq.uncwil.edu (william carter franklin)
Subject: Re: Violent crime stats from a reliable source
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:31:44 GMT

djohns@elm.circa.ufl.edu (David A. Prejudiced Johns) writes:



>First, if it's *by conviction* (i.e., in "solved" cases, in 89% of
>the cases where the victim was white the criminal was white, etc.),
>then the arrest and conviction rates of blacks and whites are
>relevant, and may vary for many reasons -- not only bias in the
>judicial system, but the fact that white neighborhoods are likely
>to be better patrolled, blacks are more conspicuous in a white
>neighborhood (than whites are), etc.


More Black neighborhoods are patrolled than white naeighborhoods
if you study the demographics versus the policeman hours.
Check it and see. In my city (about which I have posted my EXTENSIVE
research on soc.blah.blah.blah) the man hours are lopsided about three
to one in favor of the black neighborhoods (before 1992 programs were
began).

Also, your statement about a Black being more conspicuous in a white
neighborhood than a white in a Black neighborhood is false. I can
tell you believe all of the hype that is shoveled on soc.blah.blah.blah
and other places where Anti-white Pro-black sewage is prevalent.
A white person who ever tries to walk through Creekwood here, or
drives down Castle Street is certain to be mugged or killed. They are
conspicuous to the violent blacks. By contrast, a Black man can walk
through ANY neighborhood he wants in 1992 without fear of violence
in this city. I bet Reginald Denny was conspicuous.
From: ph111-bx@violet.berkeley.edu (;;;;7202)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Re: MORE COURTEOUS STATS :)
Date: 14 Aug 1992 05:06:26 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: global
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.berkeley.edu
Keywords: STATS

In article <1992Aug13.165209.29990@seq.uncwil.edu> frankli@seq.uncwil.edu
(william carter franklin) writes:
}Wilmington North Carolina (an average sized U.S. city, originally
}the largest city in North Carolina) 
}
}Murders in 1991 : 80 percent committed by black people
}Rape    in 1991 : 59 percent committed by black people
}robbery in 1991 : 80 percent committed by black people
}assault in 1991 : 77 percent committed by black people
}non agg in 1991 : 63 percent committed by black people
}weapons in 1991 : 64 percent committed by black people
}VANDALISM  1991 : 53 percent committed by black people
}drug poss  1991 : 74 percent committed by black people
}disorderly 1991 : 63 percent committed by black people

Are these numbers for arrests or convictions?  What percent of the
Wilmington population is black?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
From: barnhart@netcom.com (Aaron Barnhart)
Subject: Re: Gang related Public Service Announcement
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 03:45:20 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Reply-To: barnhart@netcom.com

larry8@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Larry ) writes:


>There was an item on the evening news the other day about a controversial
>anti-gang ad that was being shown somewhere in Illinois (Evanston I think).

>Anyway, the controversy involved a disagreement between those who thought
>the ad conveyed its message powerfully, and those who thought the ad 
>suggested that all black men were violent.  

>Did anyone else see this ad?


Front page of the Evanston Review this week:

<rummage rummage>

Well, someone in the household swiped it.  I'll get a hold of tomorrow
and post the story, as well as reactions of folx around me.  (As you
know I am a man of few words.)







>	
-- 
Aaron (Barnhart@netcom.com) -- posting from Evanston, Illinois
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 12:09:29 EDT
From: <FKR@psuvm.psu.edu>Fred Rozenblad
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Re: William Franklin Controversy
 <1992Aug18.180049.11240@seq.uncwil.edu>

Since Franklin wants to play games, I just writing this to let everyone know
I don't have time to waste on the fool.  He could drop off the face of the
earth for all I care.  I don't plan to fall prey to his stupid childish
games.

All I can say is my 4 year old has more intellect than you, William.  Write
all you want.  I'm not responding to no silly shit.  My time is to important
and precious to waste on a silly ass as yourself.


Fred Rozenblad
FKR@psuvm.psu.edu
From: johnson@offroad.chem.wisc.edu (Arthur Johnson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Re: Tuskegee Experiment on Syphillis
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:33:56 GMT
Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, UW-Madison

In article <1992Aug11.184756.8197@vax.oxford.ac.uk>  
mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
> 
> Most chilling was the attitude of some of the doctors involved.  One  
said
> something to the effect that we accept casualties when we send our young  
men to
> war, and that we should likewise accept that to move the frontiers of  
science
> there must be casualties.  Despite the glaring absence of any white  
guinea pigs
> these boffins assured us it was "not racially motivated"
> 
> The miserable end to all this was that it was made public, and the  
government
> settled out of court in 1972 (? I could be wrong here) for 10 million  
dollars
> and free lifetime medical care for all existing survivors.  It is  
estimated
> that over a 100 men died on this program.
> 
> McBean.

     McBean, did the documentary reveal the names of the "physicians"  
involved in this experiment, where they got their medical degrees, where  
those still alive currently live or work? Also, Tuskegee is a historically  
black American college. What explanation did the Tuskegee administration  
give for supporting such barbarism? Why were these black administrators so  
willing to sell other black people down the river like this? Were they  
bribed? Intimidated?

Arthur Johnson
University of Wisconsin-Madison
Department of Chemistry
johnson@offroad.chem.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
From: HF.GTD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Gabrielle Daniels)
Subject: Re: Clinton's Disrespect For Jessee Jackson
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 02:33:48 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.201035.5396@seq.uncwil.edu>,
frankli@seq.uncwil.edu (william carter franklin) writes:
to bvaughan@lotka.Princeton.EDU (Barbara Vaughan)
You forgot welfare, WICS and Social Security.  ONE THIRD of all of
the United States' monetary aid goes to black people.  MUCH LESS
than one eighth of the United States is Black.  AMEEEERICA
AMEEEERICA.......
.
.
.
I HAD to address this mindless slobbering screed here...if brothers
and sisters had all that dough, baby, I'd be driving a Benz.
.
Do you know that most people on welfare are not African-American,
but white and female with 2-3 kids?  And whites are on Social
Security as well.  Older...white...people. Underage children
whose parents have died and are under the care of a guardian.
.
Black people are 10% of the population.  Just that and no more.  Why
we are blamed for having all the money in Amerikkka (with
emphasis on the KKK) is continually beyond my comprehension.
.
This man--really this THING--is not informed.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
From: krw@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (keith.r.smith)
Subject: Re:  "Acting White"
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:25:47 GMT

In article <9208140629.AA19843@cs.utexas.edu> jthomp@mainz-emh2.army.mil
(JEFFREY THOMPSON) writes:
>There is one way to find out Charles. Make a survey of the Black youths
>in the near vicinity and several neighboring areas. This so called
>anti-intellectual thread (ignorance) is predominant among Blacks. It seems

I don't think that American Black youth have any more of a "lock" on
anti-intellectualism than most any other thoroughly "Americanized"
ethnic group.  It seems that "anti-intellectualism" is really part
of the American way.  While some BlackAmerican youth might describe
intellectual behaviour as "acting white", the youth of other groups
simply have differrent words for the same behaviour...........
.......... and the same disdain.

>we'd rather buck the system than go with the flow. Communication and
>the ability to effectively communicate not only among ourselves but with
>others as well is important. Education is the media or vehicle for
>accomplishing this. I guess fear is one reason why some Blacks develop
>this anti-intellectual attitude; fear of losing one's identity. You won't
>belong anymore. A typical example is well exhibited in Michael Jackson's
>video "Bad" or "I'm Bad" whatever.
>
>I could be very wrong too Charles. Just view this as a brainstorming effort.
>
>Jeff.
>
From: mmrwlm@sn116.uca (Wanda L McCrae)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Re: Elvis as metaphor
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:47:23 GMT
Reply-To: mmrwlm@sn116.uca
Organization: General Electric

In article 24062@morrow.stanford.edu, HF.GTD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Gabrielle Daniels) writes:

->(2) Bush is also on drugs. And I can document that.  It is a
->drug that can make one hallucinate. He was on the drug when he threw
->up in Japan.

Please refer me to the documentation.  I believe you, but I would like to see it in official print
and pass the word around with the reference to back it up.

---
Wanda L. McCrae                       | I'm too cool for a signature!
mmrwlm@sn370.utica.ge.com   |
From: mjcarpen@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Michael J. Carpenter)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Re: This FRANKLIN person
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:27:09 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Aug13.020342.8245@vax.oxford.ac.uk> mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
   
>> Well I asked him what statistics he had to back up his claims that 75% of
>> violent crimes were committed by blacks, etc., etc. but he ignored me.
>> But then either I'm one of those "black bigots" or his ass is still stingin
>> from the written whippin I gave him in that "Good Quote" thread...
>
>I think the PC term for "Franklin the Flippant Fool" is that he is
>intellectually challenged.

Being that this particular genre of labels is one I personally contend with, all
I haveta say is I'm rolling :-)

[Thanks for the nice e-mail from a number of weeks back, McBean. I meant to 
 write back but eventually tossed the mail by accident. Again, every word was
 appreciated!]

Mc
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american