HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ts@cup.portal.com (Tim W Smith)
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: Re: Jumping the Good Ship California
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 22:38:22 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ca
  <rdippold.714421211@cancun>

> >city (Boulder, Colo Springs).  If they don't like it, they will take another 
> >long weekend to go up to the Seattle area.
> 
> Just make sure they don't tell anyone in Seattle that they're from
> California if they want a good reception.  They might consider saying
> they're from Arizona, or are fleeing KGB torturers.

A friend who moved from California to the Seattle area about three months
before I did (and who greeted me with complaints that I was another
Californicator coming up to screw over Washington -- he acclimated fast!),
tells me that he's seen someone with a t-shirt that says something like
this:

	Yes, I'm another Californian.
	I'm here to cut down your trees
	and put up palm trees and waste
	water and pollute Puget Sound
	and drive up housing prices and
	take your jobs, but at least I
	can show you how to drive!

--Tim Smith
Newsgroups: ca.general
From: reimer@src.dec.com (Dean Reimer)
Subject: Duplex for Rent
Organization: DEC Systems Research Center
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 17:41:14 GMT





For Rent:

Duplex
West Side Redwood City
1 bedroom/1 bath
laundry room in unit
new paint & carpets
carport
$750.00/Month


This is a nice cottage style duplex.  It is in a nice neiborhood and 
near 280, Woodside Road, and 101.  I have lived there for approx. 1 year
and am pleased with the unit and Tom, the landlord.  If you are interested
call Tom Kahle @ 415-692-8487

Newsgroups: ca.general
From: alan@elroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Alan S. Mazer)
Subject: Re: Jumping the Good Ship California
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Distribution: ca
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:07:26 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.235438.27266@gallant.apple.com> chuq@gallant.apple.com (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:
>That was before I was born, Eugene. I grew up down there, and he's right. It
>was a decent place to live, back when you could see the mountains at least
>50 days a year (hah! try that now) or more. Of course, that all ended before
>I hit puberty.

I think this is wishful thinking.  Smog levels in L.A. have been decreasing
steadily for decades.  1989 was the best year on record (that is, since
sometime in the 1940s).

>(By the way, Orange County is NOT LA. NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT. Please don't
>mistake the two. Those of us who grew up on the other side of the orange
>curtain get just a bit teed off by that one. Not as teed off as the San
>Diego folks do when they get virtually annexed, but it's close. they really
>are separate cultural areas in most ways. hell, just look at the whackos
>O.C. send to Washington. LA wouldn't WANT to take credit for most of
>them...)

I agree that they're separate cultural areas; I used in live in O.C.  Worked
there, too.  But O.C. is not the place that it used to be.  The traffic is
getting worse and they're slowly paving everything over.
-- 
 
-- Alan                        # Mountain Dew and doughnuts...
   ..!ames!elroy!alan          # because breakfast is the most important meal
   alan@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov     # of the day.
From: harryd@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: Leaving California
Keywords: quiting,california
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 92 22:15:23 PDT
Reply-To: harryd@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
Distribution: usa


Before you give up on California, consider Santa Cruz County.
Santa Cruz is on the coast, just  south of San Jose.
So we have beachs, mountains, moderate climate and not too many problems.
As far a employment, we have just a few companies just as Borland and SCO.
Many folks commute "over the hill" to Silicon Valley.
We are about 45 minutes away from many parts of the San Jose area.
You have a lot of choices here: You can live in a city area such as
the city of Santa Cruz. You can have a lot of privacy in the mountain
areas such as Felton or Boulder Creek. You can live in a beach town 
atmosphere such as Capitola. You can live in an out of the way beach area
such as Seacliff or La Selva Beach.
In short, you can have just about whatever you want.
Housing prices here range from just under $200,000 to over $300,000 for
homes most would find suitable.
If you're interested, I have a newsletter on Santa Cruz real estate. 
Just send me your address via e-mail or call me.
-- 
Harry Domash
Century 21 Award Real Estate  (408)688-1188
From: ts@cup.portal.com (Tim W Smith)
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: Re: Jumping the Good Ship California
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 22:27:11 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ca

According to the Seattle Times, about 50,000 people per year move
from California to Washington, and about 25,000 per year move from
Washington to California.

--Tim Smith
Newsgroups: ca.general
From: price@nosc.mil (James N. Price)
Subject: Re: Jumping the Good Ship California
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Distribution: ca
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:51:12 GMT

>In article <1992Aug31.235438.27266@gallant.apple.com> chuq@gallant.apple.com (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:
>>(By the way, Orange County is NOT LA. NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT. Please don't
>>mistake the two.

HOGWASH! "LA" starts in San Clemente and ends west of Thousand
Oaks in one dimension, and it goes from Santa Monica to east of
San Bernardino the other way.  And the tentacles are spreading
ever further.

By "LA," I, as a non-resident of same, refer to the solid mass of
houses, industrial parks, Burger Kings, and linear shopping malls
that clog the above mentioned boundaries.  You can talk all you
want to about different living conditions, the "spirit" of a
certain area, etc.  But as one who has to drive thru "LA" to get
anywhere (I live in San Diego), it's all a seemingly unending
freeway, and the best I can ever hope for is to get thru it in
less than 2 hours!

To partially quell the flames that I'll get by having said the
above, I do know there are true neighborhoods in different parts
of LA, very different living standards, degrees of safety, etc.
And I'm glad the guy in the Crenshaw district really likes it
there.  We go to LA fairly often to partake of concerts, art
exhibits, etc. that don't make it down here to SD.  My problem is
that going to or through LA is always an ordeal, and from the
freeway, it's all the same, and 90% of it's ugly!

--Jim
Newsgroups: ca.general
From: jimh@pacdata.uucp (Jim Harkins)
Subject: Re: Jumping the Good Ship California
Organization: Pacific Data Products
Distribution: ca
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 22:11:09 GMT

In article <Bt5oIG.Gxo@well.sf.ca.us> casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton) writes:
>
>I know several people who have left California recently, and I'm hearing
>more talk about it.  Do you have a general sense of incoming/outgoing?
>Have you thought about leaving yourself?

I'm looking around, with luck (and nerve, gumption, etc) I'll be outta here
by next summer.  I grew up here and my family is here, thus the hard part
is gumption.

As I talk to friends I realize that highly educated, professional types like
me pretty much are all thinking of leaving.  Immigrents and college students
seem to be moving in.  Thus people who paying into the government are getting
scarcer and people steal, uh, receiving from the government are becoming
more populous.  Really makes one wonder about the state's future. 

jim

-- 
Lawyers Creed:  What's mine is mine, what's yours is negotiable.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Harkins                         [ucsd|uunet]!pacdata!jim
Pacific Data Products               jim@pacdata.com
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From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: Re: Jumping the Good Ship California
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:36:56 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton

jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) wrote: 
->Personally, it's hard for me to afford to live *near* work.  It'll be
->years for I make enough moola to buy a house within 20-30 minutes of
->NASA Ames.  As it is, I'm going to have to get a roommate to just to
->bring down the cost of renting.  

so?  it's not like you're the only person who has to have roommates
... (i don't, but i'm not shoveling cash into a car, either).

->I lived in the barrio in Houston, and have knocked around the idea of
->moving to one of the less violent parts of E. Palo Alto.  The only
->problem would be that none of my friends from work would ever come
->visit me. 1/2 :-)

you could make this a feature ... :)

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
From: adrian@ntmtv.UUCP (Adrian Brandt)
Subject: Re: Long Commutes (was Jumping the Good Ship California)
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:03:58 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.174000.25094@ads.com>, henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch) writes:
|> well, yes, and no.  there are many mass transit agencies in the area,
|> but not all of them are well-coordinated.  the worst offender of the
|> lot, caltrain, works to compensate for this during rush hours by
|> providing shuttle service to major employer in areas which are not
|> well-served with other mass transit.

Do you expect CalTrain to arrange it's schedule around that of buses?

How do you mean CalTrain is ill-coordinated?  In my view, its the feeder
bus services that are to blame for not adjusting to the train schedule.

CalTrain info: 1 (800) 660-4287.

-- 

Adrian Brandt (415) 940-2379
UUCP: ...!ames!ntmtv!adrian
ARPA: ntmtv!adrian@ames.arc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: ca.test
From: paulm@storcon (Paul Moreau)
Subject: Test
Keywords: Testies
Organization: Storage Concepts, Inc.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:07:17 GMT

   This is a test

   later dudes!
---
Newsgroups: ca.test
From: jimc@uranus.megatek.uucp (Jim Campbell)
Subject: Re: This is a test. Please ignore...
Reply-To: megatek!jimc@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Distribution: ca
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:49:12 GMT

this is only a test...
do not read this sentence.
From: kyam@usc.edu (Kwong Yam)
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: This is a test. Please ignore...
Date: 1 Sep 1992 14:53:49 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

I am posting this ad. for a friend.  Please reply to below
email address.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Job Description:
      Implement a Wyse-60 terminal emulation into an existing
DOS communication software.  


Requirement:
      An experience S/W developer who has good knowledge on Wyse-60 
terminal emulation.  This person should have written a Wyse-60 
emulation package using C/C++ and must be familiar with DOS
environment.

Salary:
      This is a contract position and salary is based on experience.

Job Location: 
      Company located at Irvine, California.  You may work at your 
convenient location.


Please send resume to wilson@witchcraft.com
with expected hourly rate.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
From: hwang@rlyeh.multisys.com (Kailan Hwang)
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: TTTTTTTTTTTTTTt
Date: 31 Aug 92 00:19:49 GMT

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Newsgroups: ca.test
From: avf@zymurgy.megatek.uucp (Andy Funk)
Subject: Re: Testing, just testing!
Reply-To: megatek!avf@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:38:29 GMT

Test for Jim...
From: lrs@mays.ucr.edu (larry schuler)
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: test
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:55:51 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: University of California, Riverside


Test

-- 
-Larry Schuler                                   UNIX Systems Group
lrs@ucr.edu                              University of California, Riverside
From: abao@bssv01.hac.com (Angela Bao)
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: new test
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:53:24 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

what?
From: kyam@usc.edu (Kwong Yam)
Newsgroups: usc.test,ca.test
Subject: This is a test....
Date: 1 Sep 1992 14:59:56 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu


QUIT
94


Newsgroups: ca.test
From: reddy@88opensi.88open.ORG (Wasavika Reddy)
Subject: Hi
Organization: 88open Consortium Ltd., San Jose
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 22:15:54 GMT



  Looking for something? ;)
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From: frank@odetics.com (Frank Merrow)
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: test
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:34:35 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Odetics, Inc., Anaheim, CA


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From: patanswer@aol.com
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: Testing, just testing!
Date: 30 Aug 92 09:03:38 GMT

Here is a test.  Just to see if it gets posted.
From: root@bssv02 (System Administrator)
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: once again
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:45:02 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

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From: abao@thaad-1g%hac2arpa.hac.com (Angela Bao)
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: test message
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:46:39 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

#2
Newsgroups: ca.test
From: johnk@gordian.com (John Kalucki)
Subject: After uci change
Organization: Gordian; Costa Mesa, CA
Distribution: ca
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:09:03 GMT


Sigh. Did I get everything?
From: patanswer@aol.com
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: Test, test
Date: 2 Sep 92 06:25:47 GMT

another test
Newsgroups: ca.test
From: john@storcon.uucp (John Hunley)
Subject: ca.test
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:12:18 GMT
Organization: Storage Concepts, Inc.

This is a test.
Newsgroups: ca.test
From: gsroka@leland.Stanford.EDU (Gregory Sroka)
Subject: can you say test?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 08:59:39 GMT


Newsgroups: ca.test
From: gsroka@leland.Stanford.EDU (Gregory Sroka)
Subject: batman
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 09:02:03 GMT

Where are you Cat Woman?
From: abao@bssv02 (Angela Bao)
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: me again
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:55:14 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

hi...
From: abao@ (Angela Bao)
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: test message
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:45:36 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4


Hello world!
From: abao@bssv02 (Angela Bao)
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: mmmeeeee
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:15:04 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4


Newsgroups: ca.test
From: gsroka@leland.Stanford.EDU (Gregory Sroka)
Subject: three
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 09:07:15 GMT


four
Newsgroups: ca.politics
From: tcox@netcom.com (Thomas Cox)
Subject: Re: Activist shot at Berkeley Chancellor's home
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 01:00:07 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Followup-To: ca.politics

jlodman@cs.ucsd.edu (Michael Lodman) writes:
>pngai@adobe.com (Phil Ngai) writes:

>>Considering that the Chancellor and his family had already been
>>evacuated, I don't see why the cops had to kill her. She didn't even
>>have a gun.  

	This was not known for certain until it was all over.  She
	didn't submit to frisking before she attacked the cop.

>Have you _ever_ heard of a cop backing down? It seems to be some sort of
>code that when they encounter force they can't handle non-lethaly
>immediately, to resort to deadly force. 

	Yes, I have.  How many data points do you have?  How many cops
	do you hang out with?  

	The circumstance of the cop-backing-down:  He was surprised from
	behind by a fellow with two knives.  Said fellow put one knife
	across the cop's throat, and the other up between his legs
	pressing his crotch.  He gave in.  I got this story from my
	JuJitsu instructor, along with a demo of the move that gets you
	out of such a situation.  (Don't try this at home!)

>_Nobody_ was immediately threatened by her once the family
>was evacuated, they could have talked to her for a week if they had to,
>but killing her was quicker and cleaner.

	Hear, hear.  "Jaw jaw is better than war war."

	-- Tom
-- 
Tom Cox      DoD #1776   '91 CB 750 Nighthawk   tcox@netcom.netcom.com
 This note is my exercise of my First Amendment right to make a fool of
 myself in public.  I do not speak for anyone but myself.  Ever.
From: edwardk@cup.portal.com (edward chungfan kwok)
Newsgroups: ca.politics
Subject: Re: Your Papers, Please!
Date: Tue,  1 Sep 92 23:03:08 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ca

>According to 
>the instructor, there is a law which requires everyone over the
>age of 18 to carry identification at all times.
>
>Can this be true?  Say it ain't so!
>
It ain't so.  If there is, the law is unconstitional.  See a U.S. Supreme
Court opinion in California v. Edwards <sorry don't have the cite> The
case was about a policeman stopping Mr. Edwards without probable cause
and cited him for not carrying proper identification under certain 
vagrant law in California.  The law was struck down on fourth amendment
incorporated into the 14th amendment ground, I believe (not 100% certain
though).

Of course, under the Rhenquist court, anything can happen.
From: pdb059@ipl.jpl.nasa.gov (Paul Bartholomew)
Newsgroups: ca.politics
Subject: Re: Clayton, You've missed an opportunity...
Date: 1 Sep 92 09:39:22 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Image Processing Lab

[Clayton]
> # # By the way, Wuornos was molested as a child.  She grows up to be
> # # a lesbian and a murderer.  Is anyone surprised?

[me]
> # Yes, as a matter of fact.  By some estimates, as many as one woman in four
> # is molested as a child.  By this logic, they should all be lesbians and
> # murderers.

[Clayton]
> Where did I say that one necessarily led to the other?  Human
> beings are not laboratory flasks -- drop in two chemicals, results
> are guaranteed.

Your comment above led me to think that you find a correlation between
her molestation and her lesbian and murderous tendencies.  If such a cor-
relation exists, then it is reasonable to expect that other victims of
molestation would show these same tendencies.  If you know of such cases
and have evidence to support such a link, I'd be glad to hear about it.

Otherwise, your original comment is along the same line as just about every-
thing you've been posting recently--contentless and clueless.

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                          |    many things..."                  Lewis Carroll
pdb059@ipl.jpl.nasa.gov   |   Disclaimer:  Opinions?  What opinions?
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Newsgroups: ca.politics
From: guido@island.COM (Guido Marx)
Subject: Re: Economy of CA
Keywords: total blinkered idiocy
Organization: Island Graphics Corp.  San Rafael, Ca.
Distribution: ca
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:51:39 GMT

In article <19738@fritz.filenet.com> asylvain@fritz.filenet.com (The Chipmunk) writes:
>However, there's one point on your side: the 8% only represents the
>numbers of people who _apply_for_unemployment_.  Two things gets people
>off the application process; one, they find a job, two, they give up.
>
>The numbers of people who are unemployed, but are no longer applying at
>the unemployment office, are probably pretty staggering.  I've heard
>that 10% of the population is on welfare (or some form of relief), and
>another good chunk is homeless (correct me if I'm mistaken, but I think 
>you need an address to collect welfare).

I agree, the unemployment figures are really bogus.  Even if the
figures were correct, they wouldn't indicate under-employment.
I think that we would be able to get a much better picture of 
what the employment situation is like if they published the ammounts
of money being with-held and estimated taxpayments made.  These figures
should be available every quarter and would give a much more 
accurate picture of the nations economic health.

Guido




Newsgroups: ca.politics
From: jlbrand@pb2esac.uucp (Jack Brand)
Subject: Mind-boggling architecture of UCB Chancellor's home
Organization: Pacific*Bell ESAC, Oakland, CA.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 00:04:00 GMT

I certainly would like to get in touch with any architect who can
pull off a miracle such as the Berkeley Chancellor's residence
is turning out to be.  While appearing to be of normal design on
the outside, once inside it reveals a room (where the activist was
shot) that can hold hundreds of eyewitnesses!  Not only all the people
here on the net, but editorial-writers and letter-writers throughout
the Bay area - they were all there!

And everyone has (surprise) reacted exactly as we would expect - the
lefties automatically blame the police and the righties automatically
defend them.  Everyone is so predicta-- oops, *consistent*... :-)



jb
From: mitch@seashell.seas.ucla.edu (Robert R. Mitchell (SEAS admin))
Newsgroups: ca.politics
Subject: Your Papers, Please!
Keywords: Say it ain't so!
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:46:03 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Cyberdyne Systems


While I was in traffic school last night, the instructor told
us about a case where a bicyclist was pulled over for failing
to stop for a pedestrian.  The cyclist was additionally cited
for not having his driver's license with him.  According to 
the instructor, there is a law which requires everyone over the
age of 18 to carry identification at all times.

Can this be true?  Say it ain't so!

"Nobody ever thinks of leaving this country.  I think of it
all the time."  -- Paul Theroux


--
DISCLAIMER:                                              | Bob Mitchell
"Don't blame _me_, _I_ didn't do it!" --Krusty the Clown | mitch@ea.ucla.edu
"Ididn'tdoitnobodysawmeyoucan'tproveanything!" --Bartman | DOD#[classified]
"Computers are ruining this country." --Al Bundy         | 1987 VT700c
From: phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel)
Subject: Re: Homosexual marriages
Organization: Cadence Design Systems
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 01:03:59 GMT

In article <opdjbtg@fido.asd.sgi.com> dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber) writes:
>Open your eyes, bozo, everyone is pushing their own agenda.  I am in a
>monogamous long term homosexual relationship, why do I differ from a
>heterosexual couple in the same situation?

Just to counter the obvious reply of "you can't have children", I am in a long
term heterosexual relationship in which we can't have children.  We are
married, and my wife is effectively sterile (tubal ligation).  So exactly why
should *WE* be allowed to marry?

The ONLY effective difference between the relationship that I am involved in
and that of a homosexual couple is that my wife is of the other gender.  The
fact that a couple who are in a committed homosexual relationship can't legally
marry is STUPID, PREJUDICIAL, and a crying shame.

Homosexuals can be (and usually are) just as loving, as committed, and as much
part of a couple as heterosexuals.

-Pete Zakel
 (phz@cadence.com or ..!uunet!cadence!phz)

Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day.  Teach a man to fish, and he'll
invite himself over for dinner.
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