HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: "ray whidden" <ray.whidden@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: paf capacity
Date: 16 Aug 92 17:25:28 EST
Reply-To: "ray whidden" <ray.whidden@canrem.com>
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In an article by Dorothy Boyd-Bush of Harrisonburg, Viginia:

FD>Does anyone know if there is a maximum number of individuals who can be 
FD>entered
FD>on PAF? I'd hate to exceed the limit.  I already have several thousand 
FD>entered.
FD>Thanks.

I don't see any mention in the books with PAF re: capacity but recall that
there was a 65,000 individual limit, I believe based upon the fact the 
RIN's are stored in two byte fields, thus 2 E16.  That's quite a few, so 
often the disk space is more of a factor.  You might want to be aware that
moving a 10,000 name database from PAF to Brother's Keeper v.5.0b took
about 9 hours, so there becomes a practical consideration in creating large
databases, if importing/exporting is a frequent occurance.  I don't under-
stand the long time required by BK since PAF handles this same database in
about 30 - 45 minutes.  However, since BK does such a good job, it's worth
knowing.

Regards, Ray

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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 08:57:05 EDT
Reply-To:     "J.P. Letellier" <jp@WIZARD.NRL.NAVY.MIL>
From:         "J.P. Letellier" <jp@WIZARD.NRL.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: paf capacity
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>
> 65000 is actually a very small number!  I already have some 30000 persons
> on file (Beauregard and Vincent) and am in the process of adding some
	But, split it into two databases (I have four on my system),
	and you can have 65,000 Beauregard and 65,000 Vincent.  I use
	my "D" drive for data, make each string into a directory (for
	easy of finding), and change to ther required directory thru
	on-line configuration when i start PAF.  I back up each directory
	separately using the PAF backup (I keep a separate backup disk for
	each directory), and then ARC all the directories to a separate
	file, so each backup disk could be used to restablish the entire
	database quickly.
	jp
Newsgroups: soc.roots,soc.culture.german
From: mkraess@hubcap.clemson.edu (manfred kraess)
Subject: Re: A question about writing to Germany.
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 22:36:37 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.181654.19733@sarah.albany.edu> ss6349@tyr.albany.edu (Steven H. Schimmrich) writes:
>
>   I am doing genealogical research on my family surname and I recently ran
>across the following listing in a West Berlin (Berlin Westteil) telephone
>directory (my grandparents were originally from Germany).
>
>   Schimmrich Brigitte Dr.med.
>   12 Pestalozzi-106
>
>   I would like to write this person who is most likely a distant relative
>(the surname Schimmrich is quite rare) and I have a couple of questions that
>some of you may be able to answer -- (1) Does "Dr.med." mean, as I think it
>does, that she is a medical doctor?

   YES!

> (2) Does "12 Pestalozzi-106" mean
>apartment 106 in building number 12 on Pestalozzi street, avenue, or
>boulevard? and (3) is there something analagous to a zip code in Germany and
>how would I go about finding it for this address?  In other words, if I sent
>a letter to "Brigitte Schimmrich, 12 Pestalozzi-106, West Berlin, GERMANY"
>would it reach this person or do I need more information? (Don't suggest
>calling since I'm a poor graduate student at the moment).


The correct address is:
   Dr. Brigitte Schimmrich
   Pestalozzistrasse 106
   W-1000 Berlin 12
   Germany

Manfred Kraess

++1-803-654-1806
mkraess@eng.clemson.edu
From: lillyj@ohsu3b2.ohsu.edu (Jill Lilly)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Is there a FAQ?
Date: 11 Aug 92 16:30:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: ohsu.1992Aug11.163031.28140
Organization: Oregon Health Sciences University
Originator: lillyj@ohsu3b2.ohsu.EDU

Does this group have a FAQ? Also, could someone please explain to me what
mailing list people are talking about? Thank you.


-- 
"OF all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most"
Jill Lilly
lillyj@ohsu3b2.ohsu.edu
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From: lincoln@rand.org (Tom Lincoln)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: GREGG
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:10:22 GMT
Organization: RAND Corporation.

In article <2132.86.uupcb@wugate.wustl.edu> sophia.brown%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Sophia Brown) writes:
>TO; lincoln%wupost.iris.rand.org!
>From: sophia.brown%travel@wugate.wustl.edu
>
>        Tom,
>
>        Still having trouble with messages.  Did you get the GREGG
>        Will, I ever learn?  Will we ever receive our domain address?
>        Yes, all in good time!
>
This is a posting because I cannot get through to you (or at least I
get not reply or confirmation....)

my internet address is as below:

 p q
 \|/
 /|\   TOM LINCOLN  lincoln@rand.org
 \|/  "Life is short, art is long, opportunity fugitive,
 /|\   experimenting dangerous, reasoning difficult."


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From: LEISUR42@MMC.BITNET
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: RE: TTAFEL
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:30:00 GMT
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                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:     13-Aug-1992 12:29pm CDT
                                        From:     Carole Leisure
                                                  LEISUR42
                                        Dept:     Marketing and Development
                                        Tel No:   (615) 327-5940

TO:  Remote NJE Network User              ( _JNET%ROOTS-L@NDSUVM1 )


Subject: RE:  TTAFEL











Apparently this didn't get out the first time.  I'll try again.

I'm fairly new to genealogy and the list.  Could someone tell me, what is a
"tiny tafel?"  Thanks.


Carole Leisure
LEISUR42%MMC@CTRVAX.VANDERBILT.EDU
RESEARCHING: Dockery (England, NC, TN, KY), Pitman (KY), Malone (Ireland,
KY), Watson (NC), Fisher (TN, AL), and Leisure (France, TX, OK)
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Newsgroups: soc.roots
Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:00:37 BST
Reply-To:     Alastair_Kinross@GEC-EPL.CO.UK
From:         Alastair_Kinross@GEC-EPL.CO.UK
Subject:      SIGNOFF
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU

I want to SIGNOFF this list whilst I go away - but I it failed!
Can you do it for me?
Thanks
       Alastair Kinross

alastair%uk.co.gec-epl@uk.ac.uknet
From: sophia.brown%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Sophia Brown) 
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Northumberland
Date: 18 Aug 92 11:50:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Travel Online, St. Louis, MO
Reply-To: sophia.brown%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Sophia Brown) 

To: Brian.Randell@newcastle.ac.uk
From: sophia.brown#%travel@wugate.wustl.edu

        Brian,

        The FAMILY HISTORY KNOWLEDGE UK seems quite interesting
        for those of us doing British research.  You mentioned that
        there were smaller lists dealing with particular places.  In
        Northumberland, alone, I am doing research on COWENS/COWAN,
        DIXON, DRURY, EDINGTON, FINLAY, HINDHAUGH, HUNTER, JOHNSON,
        MUIRE, NICHOLSON, TAYLOR, WILSON, and others.  Is there a
        section of this book dealing with Northumberland?  My interest
        is so great in this shire that this year I have joined the
        Northumberland and Durham Family History Society.

        If you know of anyone currently researching any of the surnames,
        which I have mentioned, I would be delighted to hear from them.
        In 1990, we spent some time in Northumberland, so that I could
        visit the churches and cemeteries that had been a part of our
        family heritage.  It only whetted my appetite to return and
        spend even more time in research.  We enjoyed staying in The
        Lord Crewe Arms in Blanchland, and later found the North Sea to
        have a special beauty.  If we have the good fortune to get back,
        there must be places on the coasts, where we could stay.  We
        found the charming little fishing village of Boulmer, a place
        one could "get away from it all."

        Thank you for bringing the publication of Keith and Tracy Park
        to our attention.

        Kindest regards,
        Sophia

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From: sophia.brown%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Sophia Brown) 
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: GREGG
Date: 15 Aug 92 18:20:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Travel Online, St. Louis, MO
Reply-To: sophia.brown%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Sophia Brown) 

TL>>
TL>This is a posting because I cannot get through to you (or at least I
TL>get not reply or confirmation....)

TL>my internet address is as below:

TL> p q
TL> \|/
TL> /|\   TOM LINCOLN  lincoln@rand.org

        Tom,

        Yesterday, I wrote for the third or fourth time our GREGG
        information.  I used the exact address above,
        "lincoln@rand.org" and you still are not receiving my reply.
        If this gets through to you, Monday, I will again write our
        GREGG story.

        Today I was happy not to have a message undelivered.  Infact, I
        was about to celebrate.  If you receive this on Genealogy7,
        perhaps, I should write the GREGG information on this echo.
        So, until Monday, Tom, we will give the other message a chance.

        Kindest regards,
        Sophia

 * OLX 2.2 * BASS BATEY COKER COWENS FUCHS/FUX HICKS JAMISON SMITH
    
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 09:59:48 -0500
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From:         FAC_DBOYDRUS@JMUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Heidleberg Township, PA

I have reason to believe that a marriage between Johann Karl Risch and Anna
Elizabeth Suess occurred in Heidleberg Township in Pennsylvania.  What would be
the best place to seek out this information.  I forgot to add that I believe
they were married in 1752. Where is Heidleberg located, then and now?  Thanks to
   all in advance.
Dorothy Boyd-Rush
Harrisonburg, Virginia
Newsgroups: soc.roots
From: jamie@cs.sfu.ca (Jamie Andrews)
Subject: Intro and general questions (Ont/Britain/religious)
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 18:27:42 GMT

Some specific questions for the ROOTS GURUS...

1.  Where to go/write for record of marriage Feb. 9 1843 of
James BELL in Brockville, Ontario (probably Presbyterian
church wedding)?  I was looking into this several years ago
and was given the runaround about whether records kept
locally, in United Church archives in Mtl/Toronto, or etc.

2.  Who were the Evangelical Unionists in Scotland, c. 1850?
Presbyterian (Church of Scotland or breakaway sect), Anglican
(Church of England or associated), or other?

3.  Where can I go to find out about Huguenot (French
Protestant) emigration to Scotland, 1800 or earlier?  Could
there be lists of names?

4.  Rev. William Bell, Church of Scotland minister, says in
memoirs he was married Oct. 13, 1802 in the Parish of North
Leith, Scotland.  I could find no record of this in the IGI for
any year, or the OPR of North or South Leith for anytime in
1802.  Any ideas?

5.  Where to write/visit for the record of a birth on a
passenger ship bound for Glasgow, 1885?  Child was James DUNLOP,
parents Agnes BRYDON (Scottish) and William DUNLOP (English).
Scottish Record Office does not have since father not Scottish.

6. Just curious... can someone remind me of the reasons why
the LDS Church (Mormons) is interested in keeping the records
that they do?

My interests in general:

Scotland:
ANDREWS/Dundee/Banff?,<1850
STEWART/Dundee,<1850
BELL/Fife/Lanark,<1800
BRYDON/Selkirk(Yarrow)
ANDERSON/Selkirk(Yarrow)

England:
DUNLOP/Northumberland
SIBBET/SIBBETT/SYBOT/Northumberland
ROBERTSON/Westmoreland(Orton)

Ireland:
McCOLL/McCAUL, BUCHANAN, BENNETT

Canada:
BELL/Perth county Ont.  (Rev. William Bell and descendants)
JUDD/Ont.

USA:
BENNETT/Ill.

I have the following booklets, which I would be glad to give
information from:
- _Borthwick Wa'as_ (history and record of tombstones in
  Borthwick Wa'as kirkyard, Roxburghshire, Scotland)
- _Monumental Inscriptions in Alvah Old Churchyard (Banffshire)_
  by Monica Garden Anton

thanks
--Jamie.
  jamie@cs.sfu.ca
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From: "ray whidden" <ray.whidden@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: ttafel match
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:37:19 EST
Reply-To: "ray whidden" <ray.whidden@canrem.com>
Distribution: soc
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

In an article from Tom Gowdyk:

TG>    Subject: TTafel Match

TG>While I have a lot of information compilied on my family and my in-laws 
TG>family,
TG>I'm still a bare novice at doing research other than talking to family 
TG>members.

TG>I just received a report in the mail advising that a Tiny Tafel I had 
TG>left on
TG>ROOTS - BBS - San Francisco had been matched.  It gives me the name and 
TG>address
TG>of the person and one line of information that reads:

TG>B631 1819*1938*BROADBENT\Englandnroe Twp, Adams Co, WI

TG>Can someone tell me what this means, and better yet, what do I do next?
TG>Thanks in advance.

I see someone else has already responded with the technical description
of what you got, but I see your question is: 'what do I do?'

Well, that depends; since you didn't tell us whether this was a name you
were interested in, I'll assume that it is, in which case, it is up to 
you to correspond (e-maoil, if possible, phone, if provided or mail)
to further investigate whether this lead is of any use to you.  It may
be that there is enough information there for you to see that it isn't.
This is similar to finding a listing of the same type in the annually
published Genealogical Research Directory (available at most history/
genealogical library collections, look in past issues for helpful info)
whereby the GRD collects the information but the people who find an
entry of interest are expected to follow up and make whatever arrangements
necessary with the person identified in the GRD or, in this case, the 
Tiny Tafel.  

It may be beneficial to you both just to contact the person indicated so
you both get a better understanding of the areas each of you are working
on, since the TMS response only tells you the single family you seem to
have in common.

The other thing to keep in mind is that TMS matching is done on the Soundex
Code and you can get matches far off the spelling, because the Soundex is
the same; ie, Johnson and Johanson, comes to mind, but isn't the best 
example.  In that case, you need do nothing, as this is not likely a name
you'd be interested in.  It does help highlight how the soundex code does
work and some names you might check if you're not finding the person under
the spelling you've been looking for.

I hope this helps.  Regards, Ray 

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Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: FAMILY LIST ADDRESSES
From: LEISUR42@MMC.BITNET
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:17:15 -0500
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Could someone please tell me how to retrieve the FAMILY ADDR file
to send a request for a family file?  Thanks.
Newsgroups: soc.veterans
From: kali@digex.digex.com (Kali Tal)
Subject: Veterans Education Project
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Distribution: US 
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:00:26 GMT


I received the following information from Rob Willson of the Veterans
Education Project.  I thought it would be of interest to VWAR-L
readers.  VEP is a nonprofit.  
  --Kali Tal

VETERANS EDUCATION PROJECT

The Veterans Education Project is a grop of Vietnam-era veterans who
speak to young people about real-life experiences in war and the
military.  The purpose of VEP is to give youth a broader picture of
war and the military as we experienced them. VEP began in 1982 and
gives about 140 presentations each year in public and private
educational institutions as well as to community and youth
organizations.

HOW TO START SPEAKING IN SCHOOLS
    A Training Program Offered by the Veterans Education Project

The Veterans Education Project announces its Training Workshop. This
exciting new program helps veterans and nonveteran activist groups get
into schools to deliver their message about war and the military. The
Training Workshop teaches you our time-tested speaking techniques and
outreach strategies.

The one-day workshop is led by an experienced veteran speak and
trainer. It is adaptable to the specific experience levels and needs
of sponsoring organizations. Among other things, the workshop covers:

	* the basics of storytelling, including selecting a  story and
	  structuring and narrative.
	* the fundamentals of clear and effective public speaking
	* how to confront myths about war and the military that are
	  perpetuated by media, the movies and recruiters
	* how to organize new speakers' bureaus (or strengthen
	  existing programs)
	* the nuts and bolts of getting invited into classrooms,
	  including approaching schools and dealing with resistance
	  from conservative schools or officials
	* getting positive media coverage to publicize your group's
	  work and spread your message to the general public.

Workshop participants will receive helpful "how to" materials on
speaking and literature about today's military, military enlistment,
the Vietnam war, and other relevant topics.

The fee for the Workshop is $300, plus expenses.  All training
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SPECIAL GRANT, VEP WILL BE ABLE TO PAY FOR PART OF THE WORKSHOP FEE
AND EXPENSES. The total amount of support potentially available to
your group will depend on the distance the trainer travels and your
organization's financial need.

We need to hear from you soon if your group is interested in receiving
financial support. Our support funds are limited.

Write or call Veterans Education Project for more information:

	Veterans Education Project
	Box 416
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	(413) 549-5037
From: Nigel.Allen@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Nigel Allen)
Subject: VA Secretary Clarifies Grand Island VAMC Future
Organization: Echo Beach
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 09:58:23 GMT

Here is a press release from the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs.
 
 VA Secretary Clarifies Grand Island VAMC Future 
 To: City Desk 
 Contact: U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs, 202-535-8300 
 
   WASHINGTON, Aug. 11 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Secretary of Veterans 
Affairs Edward J. Derwinski today moved to clarify the future 
status of the Grand Island VA Medical Center based on recent 
reports that the facility was destined to be downsized or converted 
into a nursing home. 
   "I foresee no circumstances that would eliminate the general 
medical services mission at this hospital," Derwinski said.  "We 
intend to maintain a balanced level of service for the intermediate 
and long-term needs of both inpatients and outpatients," he added. 
   Derwinski recently visited the medical center for a first-hand 
look and to meet with veterans groups who had expressed concern 
about the closure of the hospital's surgical service.  In 
explaining that elective and non-urgent surgical services would 
continue to be available to local veterans through the Lincoln, 
Omaha and other VA medical centers in the region, the secretary 
assured that emergency cases would be handled under a recently 
signed agreement with St. Francis Medical Center. 
   "Aside from that change," Derwinski said, "there is absolutely 
no plan to reduce the full medical capability we have here now.  In 
fact, we are moving ahead with plans to enhance outpatient care and 
are actively recruiting physicians with expertise in several 
medical specialties." 
   In issuing the clarifications, Derwinski said he found it 
necessary to clear any lingering misunderstandings about the Grand 
Island medical center's present and future status.  The secretary 
has frequently noted that the aging veteran population will place 
increasing demands on VA to provide geriatric, nursing home and 
other forms of extended care. 
   "But, that condition exists throughout our medical system," 
Derwinski noted.  "VA has to conform to meet the needs of our 
patients and make effective use of our resources.  We will do that 
as the need arises and we will certainly ensure that Grand Island's 
general medical mission remains intact." 
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From: davidson@ccrs.emr.ca (David Davidson)
Subject: Help Needed: Australian S.A.S.
Organization: Canada Centre for Remote Sensing, Ottawa
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 04:16:28 GMT

I have a friend who served with the Australian S.A.S in Viet Nam in the
mid 1960's. Not so long ago he found his duffle-bag. The only thing that
had not rotted away was the outer shell of his helicopter flying helmet.
I would like to give him some appropriate insignia as a gift, however, I have
had no luck finding any Aussia SAS stuff in any army sirplus. I would greatly
appreciate any leads anyone could send my way. Please accept my thanks in
advance. 
David.
davidson@ccrs.emr.ca