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From: heard@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au (George Heard (Laurie 8))
Subject: Re: Book Reviews
Keywords: reviews
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 07:09:14 GMT

kcl@world.std.com (Katherine C Long) writes:

>Dear Folks,

>    In the recently published Nov 1992 issue of _Asimov's
>Science Fiction_ Norman Spinrad reviews several humorous
>fantasy and science fiction books.  (The column is called
[sacthingish review of "Moving Pictures" deleted]

I haven't actually read "Moving Pictures" yet (sorry, Terry, haven't managed
to find it in Hobart), but I'd be fascinated as to what sort of books Norman
Spinrad seems to find "funny". I'm quite a fan of Spinrad, but his style of
humor is VERY dark. I don't think he would appreciate the "pun and one-liner"
style of British humor-writers.

Might be worth picking up "Asimov's Science Fiction" when it arrives in Hobart
(remind me in late 1994)

George
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From: dbergin@ibmpcug.co.uk (Derek Bergin)
Subject: Re: Sharon and Tracy
X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this article are those of the author
	alone and may not represent the views of the IBM PC User Group.
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:05:11 GMT

Your memory is perfect.  I have the copy in front of me, and it says
	where the adventuresses Herrena the Henna-Haired
	Harridan, Red Scharron and Diome, Witch of the
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^
                  a reference to Red Sonja maybe ??.

(A early Arnie movie - with Brigitte Neilson?? - god my memory is failing
me in my old age)

Regards
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From: lavonius@kruuna.Helsinki.FI (Ville Lavonius)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: DW special
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:09:20 GMT
Organization: Vidal Sassoon's Mosh&Go

In article <1992Sep14.092715.6448@sci.kun.nl> fp101@sci.kun.nl (fp1 course) writes:


   I heard that there once was a TP (or DW) special in a magazine called GM. 
   Can someone comment on that, or give more specific information. I'd like to 
   get the article myself.

GM wasn't _that_ good a magazine, the few issues that I have are almost devoid
of any content, the pages are filled with hype, typos and mislabeled pictures.

A very good DW-for roleplaying games appeared in White Dwarf #82, along with
my first taster of TP's humor, some pre-release snippets from "Light 
Fantastic". The issue is pretty old, and might be hard to locate.

   The not-so-luny-but-still-mad DM.


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From: khill@leven.appcomp.utas.edu.au (Katrina Hill)
Subject: Wanted some info
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 03:16:04 GMT

	After almost a year of thinking about going and getting some
	Terry Pratchett books i finally did...the only problem is that
	the poeple at/in the book store did not know the order, or even
	if there was one...could some body help me please.  I would just
	haten to start reading them and then find i can't get the second
	last in a series or something.  It HAS happened before and i was
	most put out.

	Thanks Heaps.

	Trina  ->  K.Hill@appcomp.utas.edu.au

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From: jan_b@lysator.liu.se (Jan Besehanic)
Subject: Re: Dutch
Organization: Lysator Academic Computer Society, Linkoping University, Sweden
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:32:44 GMT

stefan@spc.nl (Stefan Posthuma) writes:

>ins450m@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (T.F. Eccles) writes:

>>Dutch was described to me by someone who came back from a
>>year in Europe as 'Not so much a language as a throat disease'

No, no, no, no!!!! That's Danish, not Dutch!

>Zeg! Dat zij geen geintjes meer! Hoe durf je ons brabbeltaaltje te
>kleineren! Moge mannen met zeisen uw dromen tot vreselijke nachtmerries
>maken. Padden op je pad!

Well coughed!!

>That'll teach you to make fun of our noble language.... ;-)
>-- 
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>to us, strangers with the eyes of men."  |   stefan@spc.nl

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From: uhschreg@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Ulrich Schreglmann)
Subject: Re: Why do wizards need to be celibate?
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:43:25 GMT

hennebry@plains.NoDak.edu (Michael J. Hennebry) writes:

>In article <1992Sep8.215016.20795@news.ysu.edu> ac463@yfn.ysu.edu (Rich Yauman) writes:
>:Oops, an attribution is missing here:
><>But the wizard who works for the queen in Mort looks at the queen when she
><>is getting dressed and he knows that he wont be able to do magic for a couple
><>of days because of the erotic thoughts that occur.

Hence the quote from the end of "Mort":
"Notice how he doesn't do any magic, currently?", or something like
that.

May the Cold Shower Be with Him!

(C)OOL mcmxcii
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From: kcl@world.std.com (Katherine C Long)
Subject: Re: Celibate wizards
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 00:07:10 GMT

vader@meryl.csd.uu.se (]ke Eldberg) writes:

>In all myths and legends I know of, wizards are celibate. I believe
>it has something to do with the idea that anyone who has sex with
>women/becomes enamoured of a woman will no longer be fully in power
>over his own life. 

And, it is interesting since it doesn't seem to work quite that
way for DW witches.  Nanny Ogg is powerful and had, if I remember
correctly 4 husbands.  Magrat Garlick is learning a respectable
amount of power and is a virgin, I think.  Granny Weatherwax
seems to be celibate - but I don't think we can assume
virginity - and is Ramtops lead witch, if the Ramtop witches
went in for that much organization.  We saw some of Granny
at the Unseen University in _Equal Rites_ and some of what
wizards did in the Ramtops in various books.  I'd love to
see the witch/wizard sides of the coin explored more!  HINT HINT  ;-)

Katherine Long
kcl@world.std.com

  8-)
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From: killip@csc.liv.ac.uk (Mr. L.T. Killip)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re : Celibacy and Wizards
Date: 13 Sep 92 10:10:19 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University


A wizard's staff has a knob on the end,
A knob on the end, a knob on the end,
A wizard's staff has a knob on the end,
So it fits inside his hand.

Now all of the wizards in this town
Cannot look at women without a frown
And suspicious movements up and down
Of the staff that's in their hand.

A wizard's staff has a knob on the end,
A knob on the end, a knob on the end,
A wizard's staff has a knob on the end,
So it fits inside his hand.

Now the kind of thing a wizard can do
Cannot be done by the likes of you
Unless you can get a cockatoo
To fit inside your hand.

A wizard's staff has a knob on the end,
A knob on the end, a knob on the end,
A wizard's staff has a knob on the end,
So it fits inside his hand.



Any more verses people can suggest?
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From: pawlak@vxdesy.desy.de
Subject: Similarities
Organization: (DESY, Hamburg, Germany)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:16:03 GMT

We seem to be hunting for similarities between TP's and other authors'
books recently, so here is one:
(anybody out there who did not read Pyramids yet? just in case - spoiler alert)

  The Pyramid builders use at some point time loops to multiply their
workers, money, any ultimately themselves to speed up construction. A similar
idea occurs in one of early books of Stanislaw Lem (I've read the original,
no idea what the English title could be) - Ijon Tichy's starship gets
damaged, two people are needed no repair it, so the starship drifts thru
space and gets to a gravitationally unstable region. In what follows
time-shifted copies of Ijon start to appear, and he tries to somehow
make himself cooperate to fix the ship. At some point one of the copies says
something like "Sunday's said, that on Sunday the ship has not been
repaired yet, so no point in trying to do it..." (in Pyramids Ptaclusp IIa 
says "I'm from three hours ahead, I remember that we could not change
his mind"). Also fights with other copies occur in both books...
I was wondering if that was borrowed or independent idea?

And, no I'll not tell you how the Lem's story ended, it is a Pyramids
spoiler, after all :-)
    						Michal 
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From: ajr@aber.ac.uk (Ade Rixon)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: "Flying Dutch" - Tom Holt
Summary: review
Keywords: Hull, Holt, Wagner
Date: 7 Sep 92 08:39:02 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: University Of Wales, Aberystwyth - Party town!

After people were so helpful with opinions about Tom Holt's books following
my query here, I thought I'd let you all know what I thought after reading
"Flying Dutch".

The book is based around Wagner's opera-thingy (which I know bugger all
about but that wasn't too much of a handicap), concerning the Dutch captain
who must sail around the world forever, landing only once every seven years
(in Wagner to find the girl of his dreams, in Holt because of the awful
smell :-). And I really enjoyed it - definitely in the can't-put-down
category. The humour wasn't quite as strong as Pterry and there were many
good set pieces of action (and the plot took a real crow-barring in order
to reach the end) but some of the gags were very good. In fact, I thought
Pterry might be kicking himself about some of them for not having thought
of them first, eg.:
"An over-excited accountant, like the University of Hull, is a
contradiction in terms" [HA! Any Hullians on here? :-]

Plus there was a very happy ending, which I'm all in favour of. :-)

Anyway, I'm now starting "Expecting Someone Taller" and so far, bar
slightly incredulous characterisation, it ain't bad.

To sum up: worth a read for relaxation while waiting for the new
Pratchetts.

Cheers,
Ade_
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From: jengagne@wam.umd.edu (Jenny Lynne Gagne)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Weatherwax
Summary: the missing link
Keywords: weatherwax
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:37:33 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

Seems to be a bit 'o confusion over this issue...

WELL... okay, we know that the 8th son of an 8th son is a wizard (or a 
sourcer, I'm not on my math here in the undereducated americas).  Galder
Weatherwax was at one time an archchanncelor, and Esme Weatherwax is a witch.

This makes sense.  A witch doesn't have to be an 8th anything, so anywhere
along the Weatherwax bloodline she could have been born.  As for the
comment "But Ridcully is Archancellor!" you have to realize that wizards,
ESPECIALLY archchancellors, drop like flies.  And this particular one
was assasinated rather clumsily by Tymon in TLF, if I recall, being replaced
by quite a few other archchanncelors.



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From: Michael.Gunderson@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Michael Gunderson)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: _WHAT_ Annotated Pratchett File?
Summary: What are you all responding to?
Date: 15 Sep 92 05:34:41 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

My reading of this newsgroup is a bit erratic, and I've just come back
amidst a whole slew of Re:sponses to a message about Annotated Pratchett
file.  However, I seem to have missed the original.  Is this file
available via e-mail or ftp?  Or is the compilation still ongoing?


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From: hkarhune@hydra.Helsinki.FI (Heikki Karhunen)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Dutch
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:28:07 GMT
	<1992Sep07.155932.10878@spc.nl> <1601@lysator.liu.se>
Organization: Department of Theoretical Physics, University of Helsinki,
	Finland

In article <1601@lysator.liu.se> jan_b@lysator.liu.se (Jan Besehanic) wrote:
> stefan@spc.nl (Stefan Posthuma) writes:
> 
>>ins450m@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (T.F. Eccles) writes:
> 
>>>Dutch was described to me by someone who came back from a
>>>year in Europe as 'Not so much a language as a throat disease'
> 
> No, no, no, no!!!! That's Danish, not Dutch!

Someone once said that Danish is not so much a language but a speech
impediment....

> 
>>Zeg! Dat zij geen geintjes meer! Hoe durf je ons brabbeltaaltje te
>>kleineren! Moge mannen met zeisen uw dromen tot vreselijke nachtmerries
>>maken. Padden op je pad!
> 
> Well coughed!!
> 
>>That'll teach you to make fun of our noble language.... ;-)
>>-- 
>>"We convoke the Nephilim and they come  {*}  Stefan Posthuma,  SPC Company
>>to us, strangers with the eyes of men."  |   stefan@spc.nl
> 
> --
> Jan Besehanic
> email: jan_b@lysator.liu.se
> New, improved .sig-file under construction.

	Heikki, the one who just lost his non-existent Danish friends...

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Subject: Re: citynames
From: gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Nathan Torkington)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 03:51:17 GMT
Organization: Contract to CSC, Victoria Uni, Wellington, New Zealand

I think you'll find that Terry already knows about the New Zealand
Morepork.  He was given one whilst attending (as GoH) DisContinuity
this easter.

Nat.
(who was present in the audience :)
From: gordon@robots.ox.ac.uk (Gordon Buxton)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Malleus Maleficarum [was Re: Latin]
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:56:35 GMT
Organization: Robotics Research Group, Engineering Science Dept, Oxford, UK.
Originator: gordon@lucrece.robots

In article <1992Sep9.105535.10560@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> ins769v@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Veltyen) writes:
>
>Just being (probably wrongly) picky, but isn't cologne in France?
                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

WHAT?  you didn't really say that did you? Here, I've got this
asbestos suit you might like to try ... inna bun?

Gordon.
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From: t88swa@tdb.uu.se (Sven Wallman)
Subject: Why do wizards need to be celibate?
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ., Sweden
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 08:40:30 GMT


SPOILER?





I don't understand why wizards need to be celibate. In 'Mort' the reason is
that impure thoughts destroy the ability of doing magic, but in Sourcery
it is because wizards get children who are too good at magic.
any comments?


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From: rsholmes@rodan.syr.EDU (Rich Holmes)
Subject: Re: The Annotated Pratchett File, v2.0
In-reply-to: Lindsay.Marshall@newcastle.ac.uk's message of 2 Sep 92 08:54:13 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
	<Bty0qD.2w1@newcastle.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 16:44:42 EDT

In article <Bty0qD.2w1@newcastle.ac.uk> Lindsay.Marshall@newcastle.ac.uk (Lindsay F. Marshall) writes:

>>All this may be lost on the typical American reader. Picture, then,
>>six men in white shirts and trousers, decorated with ribbons, wearing
>>bells on their legs, in a two-by-three formation -- the men, not the
>>bells. To a tune played on fiddle or squeezebox, they dance up and
>>down, back and forth, gesturing with big white handkerchiefs in their
>>hands -- or, maybe, clashing yard-long willow sticks with one another.
>>That's morris dancing, as it was done in the late 19th century in the
>>Cotswolds region of England.
>
>Please, Morris Dancing never was confined to the Cotswold region,
>though the daft handkerchief stuff was. All parts of England had their
>own different kinds of Morris dancing, though in the North they tend
>to involve swords and clogs rather cricket gear and handkerchiefs....

Never said otherwise, did I? I could have gone on for pages and pages
about border morris, Northwest morris, molly dancing, longsword,
rapper, cadi ha, garland, stave, and ribbon dances, but the writeup
seemed to me long enough as it was. Since Cotswold morris is the kind
usually meant when referring to morris (and seems to be what Pratchett
was writing about), I concentrated on that. 

Incidentally, there *are* hankie dances in border morris.

>>None of which stops people from doing it. It used to be the case --
>>maybe still is -- that morris dancing was taught in English schools as
>>part of physical education, thus leaving most English people with
>>about the same kind of impression as we Americans mostly have of
>>square dancing, somewhere between amusement and nausea. Enough have
>>not been soured on the whole thing, however, to staff (reportedly)
>>several hundred morris teams in England as well as 170 or so in the
>>U.S. and God knows how many in Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong, and
>>other odd places.
>
>Rapper dancing (A sword dance from the North East of England
>originally done by coal miners) is sometimes taught in schools in
>Newcastle, but only as an aspect of tradition *not* as PE.

Thanks, didn't know that.

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From: hennebry@plains.NoDak.edu (Michael J. Hennebry)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Why do wizards need to be celibate?
Date: 12 Sep 92 19:02:36 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <1992Sep8.215016.20795@news.ysu.edu> ac463@yfn.ysu.edu (Rich Yauman) writes:
:Oops, an attribution is missing here:
<>But the wizard who works for the queen in Mort looks at the queen when she
<>is getting dressed and he knows that he wont be able to do magic for a couple
<>of days because of the erotic thoughts that occur.
<
<The thing here may be the fact that he knows he won't be able to do magic.
<He has been taught all his professional life that erotic thoughts 
<interfere with magic, with some people the belief is enough to make
<something work.  That's why placebos can actually help someone.

One gets the impression that the Royal Recognizer won't be much good for
*anything*, including magic, requiring concentration. If anything it should
facilitate his job as royal recognizer.

-- 
Mike   hennebry@plains.NoDak.edu
"I still thing it's garbage, but beautifully cooked."   --  TP on TP
From: mbm@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Malcolm Mladenovic)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: The Annotated Pratchett File, v2.0
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:36:40 GMT
Organization: UNIX Centre, ICL, Bracknell, UK

In article <1992Sep4.001659.19374@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au> macaj2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au (MACKINNELL AMANDA) writes:
>
>Yes, there are copious references to the scottish play and Hamlet 
>but also
>"Please yourself" (a play that they mention) is probably a take off on
>"As you like it"

Also, another Shakespeare play (I think _Twelfth Night_) has the secondary
title _What You Will_.

-Malcolm
From: swebber@imladris.equinox.gen.nz (Stephen Webber)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: The Annotated Pratchett File, v2.0
Date: 6 Sep 92 22:49:50 +1200
Organization: Amiga Christchurch Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Leo Breebaart (leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl) wrote:
>- [p. 132] Film studio names. Untied Alchemists is United Artists. Fir Wood
>  Studios is Pine Tree Studios [?]. Microlithic Pictures is [Anybody?]. Terry
              ^^^^^^^^^
This would surely be a reference to Pinewood Studios or _am_ I mistaken?

Don't worry I'am only reading my first TP, Guards! Guards! but have found
this will invoke my interest, more!

--
Stephen Webber swebber@imladris.equinox.gen.nz
Christchurch, NEW ZEALAND
Don't worry about tomorrow, I've been there!
From: rsholmes@rodan.syr.EDU (Rich Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Well, I'm back
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:31:47 GMT
	<ano.716460388@reading>
Organization: Syracuse University
In-reply-to: ano@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk's message of 14 Sep 92 08:46:28 GMT

In article <ano.716460388@reading> ano@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk (Adrian Ogden) writes:

><<  Adrian Ogden -- "Sic Biscuitus Disintegrat" -- ano@csres.cs.rdg.ac.uk  >>
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hah! Is anyone collecting these?

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From: lpj@col.hp.com (Laura Johnson)
Subject: Re: Why do wizards need to be celibate?
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:57:58 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

t88swa@tdb.uu.se (Sven Wallman) writes:
> 
> 
> I don't understand why wizards need to be celibate. 
> 

'Cause it's funny to have them walking around frustrated all the time.
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From: tyers@rhea.trl.OZ.AU (P Tyers)
Subject: Re: Weatherwax
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 11:20:01 GMT

From article <1992Sep14.223733.19536@wam.umd.edu>, by jengagne@wam.umd.edu (Jenny Lynne Gagne):
> ESPECIALLY archchancellors, drop like flies.  And this particular one
> was assasinated rather clumsily by Tymon in TLF, if I recall, being replaced
> by quite a few other archchanncelors.

If I may take dispute on this matter?
According to my copy of TLF (Corgi softback 1990) pp52 Galder Wetherwax was
disposed of by Luggage when he called it to him via the mirror. Tymon was
lucky to avoid the same fate! Tymon in the preceding pages had attempted
(very clumsily) to best GW but failed miserably. At the time luggage
appeared Tymon was sprawling against the wall as a result of his last
attempt.

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