From: pnr0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (PAUL N. RITTER)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: Beretta 92 problems
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:07:44 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <9208261621.AA00704@nuc.Utah.univel.COM>, Thi_Huynh@univel.COM (Thi H
uynh) writes:
#In article <17egf9INN1ec@agate.berkeley.edu# ho%helen.CS.Berkeley.EDU@ucbvax.Be
rkeley.EDU (Kinson Ho) writes:
##I have a couple of questions for owners of the Beretta 92FS (9mm, fullsize)
##
##a. Are you happy with its performance?  Have you had problems with it?
##   How many rounds have you put through it?  (I am interested in long
##   term reliability.)  Do you have the blued or stainless model?
##   Is rusting a problem?
#
#I have both models (black and stainless).  Both of them were Italian
#made.  I prefer the Berettas over my Sig P226 for personal reasons only
#(such as pointability and feel) since both are excellent guns.
#
#I have no rusting problems on both Berettas.  The P226, however, suffered
#rusting on the slide top (where I rack).
#
##   Two local ranges have told me problems with the 92:
##
##   One range (which does NOT rent the 92) claimed they have seen
##   *two* incidents of cracked frames (blew up?) at their range.
##
##   Another range (which rents the 92) said the reliability of the 92
##   is very poor.  Both of their 92s were out of service on that day.
##   In particular, I was told that some metallurgy
##   problem with manufacturing made the US-made (blued) models
##   prone to failure with the locking "lugs", and that they were not
##   happy with the service of Beretta-USA regarding this problem.
##   (It's NOT the cracked frame problem.)  They said they no longer
##   stock the US-made model (tho they will order it), and suggested the
##   Italian-made (stainless) model.  This range happens to be the only
##   one in the area that rents the 92.  9mm from Sig, Glock, S&W,
##   Browning, Colt and Ruger can all be rented easily.
##   (Strange coincidence?)
##
##   Does anyone have similar experiences?  If there is any truth
##   in these stories, has the problem been corrected?  The local
##   gun stores will not say anything.
#
#I have used hot ammo through my Berettas (+P or hotter).  These
#rounds were both commercial and reloads.  I have not notice any
#cracks or loosening of parts on the guns.  But then again, both
#of my Berettas are Italian models.  I don't think there is much
#difference between the US-made or Italian-made guns.
#
#It's hard to comment on range rental guns since any person can rent
#them and shoot his/her own "newly developed super hot" reloads.
#If I were to experiment with +P+ or hotter reloads, I would rather
#rent a gun to try it out first if I can find a range which rents
#guns.
#
##c. Does the 92 feed the popular hollowpoints without jamming?
#
#No hangups so far in over 5000 rounds in both Berettas.
#
##d. If you had to do it over again, would you choose the 92?
#
#I did.  I bought the second (stainless) when it came out.
#
#-tt
#
    I'll try to be as accurate as I can...While at a public range, two gents
  popped out of a pickup with a MESS of stuff. 9 .50 cal ammo cans of loose
  .45 ammo, 4 .45 ACP's, 3 9mm's. and a couple of rifles and wheel guns. I got
  to talking to them and found out that one is a "small weapons trainer", and
  the other was learning to be one. Anyway, their Baretta 9mm was U.S. made,
  and after every 3,000 rounds the armorors replace the slides and stuff. They
  said that the problem was with shooting 9mm carbine through the pistols. The
  instructor has one of his own and never had a problem with it. He claimed to
  have put around 6-8000 rounds through it.
    My point being, shoot the correct ammo through your guns, and you should
    never have a problem with it.