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From: batista@sal-sun105.usc.edu (Jose Carlosde Souza Batista)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Ortodox publications in French (siddur...)
Date: 27 Jan 1993 23:12:14 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: sal-sun105.usc.edu
Summary: Need adress of publishing house of jewish books in french.
Keywords: Siddur, chumash translations to french.

Dear Sirs/Madams.

	I would like to know the address/phone of a publishing
house or company either in US, France or Swirtzland (Suisse) 
printing ortodox jewish books in french. I am interested in 
hebrew/ french versions of the SIDDUR ( sefardi and askenazi 
nusach) , CHUMASH , TANAKH, etc ... I am interested only in 
Ortodox  Judaism. I would be pleased if you could send me 
information to my e-mail accont: batista@usc.edu. Thank you for
you attention.

         Yours sincerely,

         Joseph DeSouza. (batista@usc.edu)




Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: gertler@cyclone.sbi.com (Don Gertler)
Subject: Re: The Kotel Hama'aravi has a fax number!
Originator: scj@israel.nysernet.org
Reply-To: <gertler@cyclone.sbi.com (Don Gertler)>
Organization: Nysernet
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:36:01 GMT

warren@nysernet.ORG (Warren Burstein) writes:

> I was taught that one could log in from almost any location even
> without a terminal or fax machine.  It's toll free, too.

Then why do you insist on going in at 19.2?

-Don Gertler
From: ehrlich@bimacs.BITNET (Gideon Ehrlich)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Neo-nazis exploit Hebrew to promote racism
Keywords: nazi, racism
Date: 21 Jan 93 10:16:28 GMT
Organization: Math department, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, ISRAEL

In article <1993Jan19.142036.203476@uctvax.uct.ac.za>
naturman@uctvax.uct.ac.za writes:

>Neo Nazi idiots in South Africa have been exploiting the Hebrew
> language to promote racism. Their argument goes as follows:
>
><In the (Hebrew) Bible the word for man is adam. This is derived from
> the word adom meaning red. It refers to the fact that humans can
> blush. Black and Colored people cannot blush red and therefore they
> are not human, they are ANIMALS.
>                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>This would be extremely funny if it were not for the fact that
> they are being totally serious.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Don't blame them for that.
There was a very long debate among christian ideologists whether
blacks should be considered as a special monks spiecy or as strange
persons. ( Hense wether one should do a confesion wither before or after
killing a black).
It makes sense that the above argument was used by those christian
bishops  believed blacks to be monkeys.

  Shalom    Gideon

Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: sg04@gte.com (Yechezkal Shimon Gutfreund)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Bitachon (Trust)
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:50:26 GMT
Reply-To: sg04@gte.com
Organization: GTE Laboratories, Inc.



In article AA17284@das.wang.com, MASH@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL (Michael Shimshoni) writes:
]I rather  stop here. The Rebbe  by any possible twist  has to support
]the believe in the  "good" God.  As I have stated  before on scj, with
]the Holocaust and its one  million (lacking of merit?) Jewish children
]and  babes, and  the  many millions  of others  murdered,  no talk  of
]"revealed bad" but "concealed good", can *conceal* the fact that there
]was no God there  when he was needed, all the rest  is just talk, talk
]and talk.
]

If Michael will permit it, could I tease him just a bit?

I think the problem is exactly that: people decide where they want to stop.
They will let an argument go only to the point where THEY decide. If the
argument goes beyond what they already have decided is the "wrong" answer
they close their minds and solve the problem of further discussion.

In this case. There are incidents in a person's life when bad things happen,
but then at later date the individual himself decides that there were for
the good. There are incidents that occur that for the rest of the individuals
life there is no revealed good to that individual, but others might be
able to see the good in it. Then there are incidents where all humankind
cannot see the good in the event. Death and the Holocaust would certainly
qualify. 

Still, that is no proof that there is not a good. That on the G-dly level
there is a good, and that this good will be ultimately revealed in the
world to come. That there is a revealed bad is undeniable, that we have
a right to complain to G-d is verifiable by the contents of our daily
prayers. We have a right to ask for positive and revealed good.

But when we say stop, no, that there is no good, we deny G-d. Rather than
admit that our own human intellect is limited, we choose atheism. Rather
than admit there is a reason, and that the reason is inherently trancends
human rationality (and thus is a G-dly reason). Rather than do that some
choose atheism. To set themselves up as the sole arbitrator of what
is and is not possible.

This is a choice a person can make. To choose atheism. To stop and refuse
to allow for a rationality other than their own. 

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Yechezkal Shimon Gutfreund		 		  sgutfreund@gte.com
GTE Laboratories, Waltham MA			    harvard!bunny!sgutfreund
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From: davis@passy.ilog.fr (Harley Davis)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: ARAFAT IS A GIRL
Date: 26 Jan 93 10:52:35 GMT
Organization: ILOG S.A., Gentilly, France
In-reply-to: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu's message of 24 Jan 93 08:21:20 GMT


In article <5006@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU> aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Shaqeeqa) writes:

   (Joseph Samuel Kaufman) writes:
   >It is true.  Arafat was a girl.  What happened was, they chopped one of  
   >his big toes off and sewed it on his private area to make him look male.   
   >The only problem is now he pees out his foot.

   Tell me Joseph ... just how is it that confirmed this?

   And did he take male hormone shots to grow that beard?

Well, after over 30 years, he still hasn't gotten past stubble...

-- Harley Davis
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Xref: sparky soc.culture.jewish:26116 alt.rush-limbaugh:15186
From: waldo@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Todd J. Dicker)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Religious breakdown of Clinton Cabinet
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:49:39 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

simon1@bass.bu.edu (Simon Streltsov) writes:

> >Clinton has said he will include Gore in many decisions, and it is
> "promised"? 

> Can somebody check if it is in the Rush Limbaugh list of Clinton's
> promises?

Why in the world would anyone pay attention to what Rush Limbaugh claims 
Clinton said?  He has absolutely no concept of truthfulness or reality, 
and his idea of an argument is to totally ignore the points made by his 
opponent and to make fun of his opponent's looks, accent, and whatever 
else he can find in place of rational discourse.

> Can Rush post the whole list here, if he reads s.c.j ?

Bwwwahhaahaaahahahahahahahahah!  Rush!?!  Read?!?!?!? s.c.j.?!?!?!?!?!?!?
From: naturman@uctvax.uct.ac.za
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: The Thirteenth Tribe
Keywords: khazars
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:04:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: uctvax.1993Jan21.140433.203484
Organization: University of Cape Town

In article <1993Jan19.181053.24185@watson.ibm.com>, picheny@watson.ibm.com (MA.Picheny;340090) writes:
> A friend of mine is asking me questions about this book. I seem 
> to remember reading various rebuttals to the thesis advocated 
> namely that we are all (we being Eastern European Askenazim)
> decended from the Khazars, Can anyone point me to such a discussion
> or fill me in on the details?
> 
> Michael Picheny

As far as I remember, the Khazars who escaped being killed by the Russians were
forced to convert to Christianity. It is extremely unlikely that any modern
Jews are descended from the Khazars.

Of course the neo-Nazis love to claim that modern Jews are descended from any
one but the Israelites. While the Palestinians are denying that the Canaanites
assimilated into the Jewsish people, some neo-Nazi groups claim that modern
Jews are descended only from the Canaanites! and should be killed. I've heard
of at least one racist pamphlet claiming that the Germans are the true
descendants of the Israelites -ha ha ha.

Colin
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Re: The Kotel Hama'aravi has a fax number!
Organization: NYSERNet, Inc.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:00:39 GMT

In <9301221923.AA16610@cyclone.sbi.com> gertler@cyclone.sbi.com (Don Gertler) writes:

>Then why do you insist on going in at 19.2?

Hidur mitzvah, of course.
-- 
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From: krischer@kramden.nyu.edu (Simon R. Krischer)
Subject: test
Organization: New York University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:30:54 GMT


Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: hem@col400.att.com (Hillel E. Markowitz)
Subject: Re: Davidic Lineage
Originator: news@cbnewsf.cb.att.com
Organization: AT&T Federal Systems
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:22:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.145327.24451@starbase.trincoll.edu> nmiller@starbase.trincoll.edu (norman miller) writes:
>In article <1k5b35INNpi1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ct976@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (H. Da
>niel Hirsch) writes:
>>
>>I have a neighbor, a sephardic Rabbi, who can trace himself to
>>a certain author.  The author of the sefer - in the introduction
>>- traces his own lineage to David.  That sound like Davidic
>>lineage to me.
>
>Query: is there any Jew in this group who is _not_ descended from
>David (and just about everybody else)?  Comment from demographers and
>statisticians especially welcome.
>
>Norman Miller
>
>

Please note that the lineage must be strictly father to son.
Thus those who are members of any other tribe (such as cohanim or
leviim) or those whose (theoretical) line from David includes a
mother are not of "Davidic lineage".

-- 
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| H_Markowitz@att.com | Veahavta Leraiecha Kamocha |
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From: barry@dingus.osf.org (Barry Perlman)
Subject: Re: How do Jews reconcile science and philosophy with their faith?
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:13:08 GMT

> (Actually, a couple of years ago, I did enter into the free
> will/determinism debate on the UseNet, but found it frustrating and
> pointless, because most authors simply were using it as a forum to
> either bash or push religion rather than talk about the subject
> dispassionately.)


Personally, I liked I.B. Singer's comment on the subject.  I don't
remember his exact words, but they were along the lines of:

	"I believe in free will.  I have to believe in free
	will.  I have no choice."


	Barry

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From: abkevich@husc3.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Torah is the center of every Jew?
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:53:49 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <9301212122.AA02994@cyclone.sbi.com>, gertler@cyclone.sbi.com 
(Don Gertler) writes:
>  
> As another example, a female child of a Kohen would have no halakhic
> barriers to becoming a physician.  Her brother most certainly would.
> 

What kind of barriers? And why?

> 
> -Don Gertler

                        Victor Abkevich
From: naturman@uctvax.uct.ac.za
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Canaan (was Re: Eretz etc etc)
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:54:30 +0200
Keywords: Canaan
Organization: University of Cape Town

In article <1993Jan26.144350.203494@uctvax.uct.ac.za>, naturman@uctvax.uct.ac.za writes:
> In article <1993Jan24.140810.20615@nighthawk.clearpoint.com>, martillo@nero.clearpoint.com (Joachim Carlo Santos Martillo Ajami) writes:
>> In article <1993Jan11.153952.203449@uctvax.uct.ac.za> naturman@uctvax.uct.ac.za writes:
>> 
>>>> The Canaanites are people who occupied what is now called Syria, Lebanon, 
>>>> Palestine, and parts of Iraq. It is also beleived that Babylon (Bab-El) was
>>>> actually founded by Canaanites, since they were the first people to name city
>>>> gates after their Gods. It is also beleived that the Phoenicians who at one
>>>> time occupied the coasts of Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, and parts of turkey are
>>>> part of the Canaanite tribes.
>> 
>>>False. The term "Canaanites" literally means people from Canaan (western
>>>ancient Israel). 
>> 
>> The etymology for Kna`an seems much more complicated.  The root
>> meaning of Kna`ani seems to be merchant.  Kna`an may be a
>> back-formation.  When Semitic speakers came into the region, they
>> asked the local people who they were.  The local people designated
>> themselves as merchants or Kna`anim.  The Semitic speakers then
>> concluded that the region must be Kna`an.
>> 
> The meaning "merchant" for Knaani is considered to be late. The the term was
> used particularly for the coastal Canaanites and these people spoke Hebrew!!!
> These coastal Canaanites became the merchant class of the Jews and so the word
> Knaani came to mean merchant in Hebrew. (The expansion of the term Knaani to
> include non-Hebrew speaking people such as the Hittites, Hivites, Girgashites
> and Jebusites was also late.)
> 
> Knaan has a very natural Hebrew meaning, "the one that bends". The land of
> Canaan starts low at the coast curves upward and "bends over" to get lower in 
> the Jordan valley. 
> 
The explanations of "Canaan" in terms of "red dye" etc are also not considered
seriously anymore. The coastal Canaanites and the "Anorites" were both West
Semitic people like the Israelites.

As for the term "Phoenician". This was originally the Greek name for any West
Semitic seafaring merchant and included Israelite (particularly from the tribe
of Zebulun) as well as various pagan West Semitic groups.


<Grrr this computer terminal is causing problems so I'm going to post and log
out now>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: MASH@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL (Michael Shimshoni)
Subject: Re: Alter Rebbe?
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:23:55 GMT

In: <1993Jan24.043157.26446@cs.tulane.edu>
david@bourbon.ee.tulane.edu (David Kaufmann) responds to my question:

>In article <199301211402.AA25753@das.wang.com> MASH@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL
>(Michael Shimshoni) writes:
>>In: <199301202107.AA26609@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>
>>Murray Kahl <kahl@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> brings:
>>
>>>Tanya for January (gated for YY Kazan)
>>
>>It starts with:
>> >
>>>[In the previous chapters, the Alter Rebbe discussed the difference
>>
>>I am always puzzled when I read this title the Alter Rebbe which means
>>the old Rebbe.  I understand that this is how the Chabbad people refer
>>to their  founder.  But why  "Alter"? Now  this title surely  fits the
>>present Lubavitcher Rebbe,  him being alive but  not especially young,
>>but it  seems odd to be  used for a  dead person.  Why not  Rebbe Zal,
>>Zatzal, olev  hasholem, if  we already  use the  Yiddish pronunciation
>>etc.?
>>
>>If one could at all give such a  title to a dead teacher, would it not
>>fit Moshe much more? Just curious.
>>
>The honorific "Alter Rebbe" derives from two fact: Rabbi Schneur
>Zalman was a child prodigy, young in years but old in wisdom. He was
>an expert in halacha and the revealed Torah at a young age and was
>called the prodigy of Liadi. (One reason why he was asked to write an
>edition of the Shulchan Aruch.)

OK "Alter" because he was a ilui, a child prodigy, so it seems that he
was called "Alter" while still a  child.  Fine, but what does this say
about his son who succeeded him?

>The other comes from the distinction made by Chabad Chassidim between
>himself and his son and successor, Dov Ber, known as the Mitteler
>Rebbe (Middle Rebbe).

Alter is  for geniuses, thus  "Mitteler" kind of middling  or average.
An IQ of about 100??

I tremble to  speculate what the title  of the third one  hints at.  I
was told that he was known  as something like the Yunge (young) Rebbe.
Does that indicate that he was old in years but young in wisdom??

David, it  seems to be dangerous  to invent ad hoc  explanations, they
can be carried  on further than you expected.  I  stopped at the third
Rebbe  not wishing  to cause  any further  problems by  discussing the
fourth etc.  Rebbes. :-)

>Hope this helps.

Well...

>David Kaufmann

 Michael Shimshoni
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.german
From: fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home)
Subject: Re: Detest Germans?
Organization: CompuData Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:52:07 GMT

mrunkel@titan.ucs.umass.edu (Marc A. Runkel) writes:

>BTW, I believe Fred's reference to "third world barbarians" was tongue in
>cheek. If not, shame on you fred! ;-)

It takes but a cursory reading of 19th century history to learn a little about 
what our Western European society thought of the rest of the world.

We were cultured. What were the others? Native people who lived like savages. 
It was all in the eye of the beholder. Even the ancient Chinese cultures were 
not up to our standards of what was 'right'. 

My comment was made in the term and concept of the times. There is no sense in 
denying history.

Fred
-- 
W. Fred Rump 	office:	   fred@COMPU.COM     "A man's library is a sort of 
26 Warren St.   home: fr@icdi10.compu.com 	harem" - Emerson (1860) 
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609-386-6846    bang:uunet!cdin-1!icdi10!fr
From: bf0y+@andrew.cmu.edu (Benjamin Frank)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Software
Date: 25 Jan 93 04:03:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.MfMzATO00Uh_Q1gWoh
Organization: Doctoral student, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I am looking for a Hebrew or Hebrew/English word processing program for the
Mac, preferably one that does vowels as well as characters.  Can anyone 
reccomend any programs or point me in the right direction?  
Please write back to me, as I don't check the boards often.  
Thanx.
Ben
From: richda@asterix (Richard Darsa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Child Help
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:23:34 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


Hi All,

I am looking to spend 2-3 months in the States this summer from the  
beginning of July... Idealy working with Kids of any age....
I have had a lot of experience with Jewish children, running 3 youth 
clubs of my own in South London.

I would either like to work on a camp or for a family.... Money is not
an issue, but I cannot afford to get to accross the Atlantic so that
will have to be payed for.

If you require anyone like myself for the job please, mail me on this 
News group or to richda@informix.com or phone (int code) 0784 249685.

Cheers

Ric.
From: aliki@nova1.stanford.edu (Alexandra Schmidt)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: The Mysterious "Jay" Phenomenon
Date: 27 Jan 1993 19:52:10 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: nova1.stanford.edu
Keywords: Middle Names

In article <1993Jan27.153444.3922@ulysses.att.com> rjs@ulysses.att.com (Richard Steinberg) writes:
>
>Can anyone explain the Mysterious "Jay" Phenomenon?  I.e., why is the middle
>name Jay so popular as a middle name among American Jews.  Examples:
>
>			Stephen Jay Gould
>			Bruce Jay Freedman
>			Michael Jay Pollard
>			Alan Jay Lerner
>
>Thanks.
>						Richard Jay Steinberg
>						AT&T Bell Laboratories
>	

I'm named for my great-great grandfather Joseph Allen.
("Mom, why did you give me a boy's name?"  But now I wouldn't trade it for
anything.)

			. . .Alexandra Jay Schmidt




Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: dbtdxc@ARCO.COM (David Chapin)
Subject: Re: Software
Organization: ARCO Oil and Gas Company
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:37:24 GMT

In article <MfMzATO00Uh_Q1gWoh@andrew.cmu.edu>, bf0y+@andrew.cmu.edu (Benjamin Frank) writes:
> I am looking for a Hebrew or Hebrew/English word processing program for the
> Mac, preferably one that does vowels as well as characters.  Can anyone 
> reccomend any programs or point me in the right direction?  
> Please write back to me, as I don't check the boards often.  
> Thanx.
> Ben

You might simply try to install Hebrew fonts (e.g. World Class Fonts) and then use your
current word processing program with the new fonts. World Class Fonts (and probably other 
commercially available fonts) lets you type vowels, as well. They are typed the same way as 
accents are in other fonts - you use the option or shift-option keys.

  David Chapin
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: shimoff@umbc.edu (Eliot Shimoff)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: child help
Date: 25 Jan 1993 16:08:33 -0500
Organization: Univ. of MD, Baltimore County
NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc4.umbc.edu

In article <9301251758.AA04292@halibut.nosc.mil> <mgross@halibut.nosc.mil (Michelle K. Gross)> writes:

Richard from London asks about employment in the US. There is an organization
with a London office called CIEE (Council for Internation Educational Experience)
or some such. Last I checked with them--five years ago-- for a $75 fee
they would provide working papers and connections towards finding a job on
either side of the Atlantic. They have a visa echange program. There is also
an organization called BUNAC. I don't recall what the letters stand for, but
'B' was for British. They placed some Univeristy of Manchester (UK) students
who I met at the JSOC (Jewish Society on campus) as camp counselors in the US.
YIVO also runs a summer volunteer program where you could help salvage old books.
I can't imagine that any program would provide airfare contingent on future
employment, and would be wary of such promises. Indentured servitude is forbidden
by the US Constitution except in prisons and the Armed Forces. Correct me if I'm
wrong, but I think that's the Fourteenth Amendment.
>

I recently heard that Zoe Baird and spouse are looking for a new nanny ...
(Sorry -- I coudn't help myself.  It's a neurological problem, and I'll
get my medication adjusted.   AFTER PURIM. :-)




-- 
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   shimoff@umbc3.umbc.edu      |   X + Y = Z .  Easy to prove no solutions
Ashamnu, bagadnu, gazalnu ...  |   for n greater than 2.  Darn.  Can't fit
Better luck next year!         |   it into this little .sig file.  Oh well.
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