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From: allyn@milton.u.washington.edu (Allyn Weaks)
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: Re: Copyright (Was: standard representation of music)
Date: 2 Jan 1993 09:08:44 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: milton.u.washington.edu

ed@titipu.resun.com (Edward Reid) writes:
>allyn@milton.u.washington.edu (Allyn Weaks) writes:
>> The easiest rule of thumb is that if you have actual paper/media that came
>> out before 1917 (75 years ago) it is safely in the public domain ...
>> ... So if you can find an original Liber Usualis from 1914,
>> you can photocopy it and put it back in print (I very much hope that Dover
>> will do this), but if you have a copy dating from 1936, you probably
can't.

>Until recently, a copyright (at least in the US) lasted 56 years, including
>a renewal at 28 years.  So anything from before 1936 is now in the public
>domain.  Current protection lasts for the author's lifetime plus 50 years,
>or a flat 75 years for corporate or joint works.  That only went into effect
>in the last five years or so, so you needn't worry about the change for a
>little while.

The problem being that so much music, especially early music, is only
available in European editions.  It's generally the 75 year corporate
copyright that needs to be thought about for publications.  If you copy a
non-US edition that's public domain in the US, but not in Europe, then make
it available for distribution on an ftp site accessible from outside of the
US, you could still get in trouble...so the safe, easy rule of thumb is to
follow the Berne Convention rules, or be very careful who you give the copy
to.  Dover has scads of codes in their catalog for what can be sold where for
this reason.

Allyn Weaks
allyn@milton.u.washington.edu

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From: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Subject: London
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 07:04:04 GMT

I'm going to be in London in the early part of January and was
wondering if anyone knows of any early music activity (concerts, etc)
that will be going on during that time...

I'd also be interested in knowing about any good sources in the area
for instruments, scores, etc.  I know about "The Early Music Shop" in
the basement of the Schott dealership on Great Marlborough St...it's
one of my frequent stops whenever I'm in London.  I remember reading
at one point about a shop in London that deals almost exclusively in
early keyboard instruments.  Does anyone know the name of the shop to
which I refer?

Thanks in advance...


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From: velde2@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Francois Velde)
Subject: Re: *Very* early music
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 17:26:07 GMT

In article <01GSNIJIG9080009C2@GONZAGA.EDU> JAMES QUINN <QUINN@GONZAGA.BITNET> writes:
>> Because I was translating from the original text in French, and I wasn't
>> too sure the words were the same in English. As a matter of fact, ceramology
>> is not in the OED (organology is, of course; apologies to organologists
>> worldwide). I suppose it means the study of ceramics.
> 
>Could it have been "ceremology," the study of ceremonies and ceremonial
>behavior?  But that isn't in the OED either.   :-)   (O.K., I admit it,
>I'm a neologist!)

I checked: the word "ceramologie" exists in French, meaning the archeological
study of ceramic arts. 

-- 

	Francois Velde
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Subject: Faculty Position Announcement
From: Moe Methot <AP201027@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Date: 31 Dec 1992 10:27:00 -0500 (EST)
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 92 09:47:09 EST
From:         Moe Methot <AP201027@BROWNVM>
Subject:      Faculty Position Announcement
To:           music-research@prg.oxford.ac.uk
========================================================================
The Department of Music at Brown University announces a tenure-track position a
t the level of assistant professor.  The term of appointment begins in July 199
3.  We seek a composer or theorist with expertise in computer music.  Qualified
 candidates should hold the PhD and be prepared to teach a broad range of cours
es for both majors and non-majors in our theory-composition program, including
courses in computer music applications.  Preferences will be given to candidate
s who will contribute to our graduate programs as well.  The deadline for submi
ssion of applications and all supporting materials is February 1, 1993.  Applic
ants should send a letter describing their experience and interests together wi
th a curriculum vitae, graduate school transcripts, three letters of recommenda
tion, and up to three examples of compositions and/or scholarly research.  Each
 recorded example should be submitted on a seperate cassette tape.  Although al
l possible care will be taken in handling submitted materials, we cannot be res
ponsible for loss or damage to these items.  Send applications to:  Gerald M.
Shapiro, Search Committee Chair, Department of Music-Brown University, One Youn
g Orchard Avenue, Providence, RI 02912-1924
From: wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: Re: London
Date: 30 Dec 92 14:23:47 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <1992Dec26.070404.26510@news.columbia.edu>, gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener) writes:
> I'm going to be in London in the early part of January and was
> wondering if anyone knows of any early music activity (concerts, etc)
> that will be going on during that time...
> 
Your best bet is to buy either Time Out, which lists all performances of
everything anywhere in London or a national newspaper, preferably on a
Saturday, when all the big concert halls take out ads. St John's Smith Square
or the Wigmore Hall (newly re-opened) are the best bets for early music; the
Queen Elizabeth Hall or the Purcell Room sometimes offer something. It's also
worth listening to the radio: Radio 3 (around 90-92 kHz) is getting much better
about broadcasting early music, and you get intelligent presenters.
-- 

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wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk    |   outgoing American. Highest bids accepted.
From: ed@titipu.resun.com (Edward Reid)
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: Re: Copyright (Was: standard representation of music)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 18:37:09 EST(-0500)
Organization: Accuracy, Ltd.
Reply-To: ed@titipu.resun.com (Edward Reid)
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allyn@milton.u.washington.edu (Allyn Weaks) writes:
> The easiest rule of thumb is that if you have actual paper/media that came
> out before 1917 (75 years ago) it is safely in the public domain ...
> ... So if you can find an original Liber Usualis from 1914,
> you can photocopy it and put it back in print (I very much hope that Dover
> will do this), but if you have a copy dating from 1936, you probably can't.

Until recently, a copyright (at least in the US) lasted 56 years, including
a renewal at 28 years.  So anything from before 1936 is now in the public
domain.  Current protection lasts for the author's lifetime plus 50 years,
or a flat 75 years for corporate or joint works.  That only went into effect
in the last five years or so, so you needn't worry about the change for a
little while.

Edward Reid  (8*}>
  eel:   ed@titipu.resun.com  or  nosc.mil!titipu.resun.com!ed
  snail: PO Box 378/Greensboro FL 32330
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From: IMAGING.CLUB@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Imaging Club")
Subject: Longy Winter Early Music Season Opening in Cambridge a Big Success
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 22:53:20 GMT

CAMBRIDGE, MA--December 22, 1992--The Longy School of Music's
Winter Early Music season opened last night with a big success.
Their seven member Renaissance Wind Band opened the evening's
"Music from the Old and New World," performing with the
dulzian, sackbut, and shawm.  They performed El Cervel from
Cancionero Palacio and # 83 (S'ogni mio ben havete) from MS.
Lerma II by Alessandro Striggio (1540-1592).

Sopranos Christi Catt, Jeannette Hargroves, and Sandra Morales
followed and sang well, doing 16th and 17th century Spanish songs
by Capitan Mateo Romero, Clemente Imana, Juan Hidalgo, Diego Ortiz,
and Luis De Narvaez.  Ruth McKay played the harpsichord and Lisa
Willems the harpsichord and organ, accompanied by Paul Johnson (viola
da gamba).  They were coached by Frances Fitch, the leading Boston
harpsichordist and Longy faculty member, and Michael Collver.

After intermission, the Longy Lute Ensemble resumed with six
villancicos from the court of Ferdinand and Isabella by
Juan del Encina (1468-1529).  Members of the Renaissance and
Baroque Solo Song Class followed that with works by Antonio
de Salazar, Frei Francisco de Santiago and Gaspar Fernandez.

The enjoyable evening closed with the Longy Renaissance Wind
Band again, performing Crequillon's Magna et Mirabilia,
#76 from MS, Lerma II, and Roma's "O voy" from Cancionero
Palacio.

The Longy Winter Early Music schedule resumes on Sunday,
January 10 at 4:00 pm.  This performance will be followed
by one on January 18 at 8:00 pm and another one on January
25 at 8:00 pm.  These popular concerts take place at the
Longy Concert Hall next to Harvard Square, Cambridge.

Michael.Willett@OFFICE.Wang.com
From: sommerfeld@apollo.hp.com (Bill Sommerfeld)
Subject: Re: Longy Winter Early Music Season Opening in Cambridge a Big Success
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 19:41:57 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard

Michael Willett was kind enough to post a review of the Longy student
concert.   

Well, I happened to be one of the performers in that concert, and
wanted to point out a couple of corrections/omissions in his review...
First of all, the "Longy renaissance wind band" (the group I'm part
of) is named "I Piffari", and is coached by Dan Stillman.

There was a mistake in the program with respect to our second set; "O
Voy" came first, and was followed by the other two works. A couple
of people in the audience referred to I Piffari as being "Loud and in
tune", which is one of the highest compliments possible for a band
containing shawms....

Our next performance is as part of the Longy early music dept. concert
currently scheduled for 18 January 1993.

(Disclaimer: I'm a amateur trombonist still learning sackbut).

					- Bill
From: brendan@otc.otca.oz (Brendan Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: CD Contains wrong music...
Date: 3 Jan 93 23:26:25 GMT

in article <725435420snx@sound.demon.co.uk>, rob@sound.demon.co.uk (Robert J Barth) says:
> What we're on about here is a serious error e.g. having the wrong *band* or
> wrong *album* on a CD, not just a track or 2 out of place...
> I hope this is a lot rarer, but I'm willing to be proved wrong !

Well, it's happened to me once.  I bought Talk Talk's first album on CD
_The Party's Over_, took it home, played it, and Queen's Greatest Hits Vol I
came out.  The CD label and liner note all were otherwise correct for _The
Party's Over_.  I took the CD back and got another one!

It was probably a quality control problem.  The aluminium got pressed with
Queen's Greatest Hits on it, but then got labelled and boxed incorrectly.

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From: 2038am@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (That Guy)
Subject: Pajama Slave Dancers
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 22:39:11 GMT


I am searching for any information on The Pajama Slave Dancers, and if
any of their works are available on CD.
their albums that i know of are:

Blood, Sweat, and Beers
Heavy Petting Zoo
Full Metal Underpants

the first two were released on Restless Records, and i'm not sure about
the second one except that it is probably NOT on Restless.

Their stuff is pretty funny, i think.  and they are proof that anybody
with enough attitude and determination can get a record contract,
regardless of whether they have any talent or not.

please E-mail me with any information you might have on them, and 
hurry, i don't know how much time i've got with this account.

thanx
-Andy


Xref: sparky rec.music.cd:8534 misc.consumers:21020
Date: Monday, 21 Dec 1992 08:23:24 MST
From: <AOAFF@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Sony Equipment (was Re: CD walkmans)
 <justin.724554845@mik.uky.edu> <63b002x92fnp01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>
 <zdem0a.724688116@hgo7>

The remote for my STRAV-970 surround sound receiver just died a few
months out of warranty. So far no problems with XBR 27" TV and SLV-676
VCR. Allen
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
From: mgm@world.std.com (michael g moncur)
Subject: Re: Madness
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 06:14:53 GMT

ggoodman@theraj.enet.dec.com (Graham Goodman) writes:

>The only Madness compilation available on CD is Divine Madness which is the best
>anyway, being both the previous compilations (Complete Madness and Utter
>Madness) together on the one album. Out of the two previous ones, Utter Madness
>has Our House, but is only available on vinyl or cassette.

Actually, I saw Complete Madness on CD at one time.  Perhaps I'm mistaken,
but I'm pretty sure.

-- 
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From: jrowney@arco.com
Subject: Mike Oldfield CD Availability
Organization: ARCO Exp. and Prod. Tech.
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 18:29:44 GMT

 Does anyone know if the following are available on CD?

1)  Incantations

2)  "Boxed" (Tubular Bells, Hergest Ridge, Ommadawn, Collabarations)

3)	Any of the stuff in collabarations done with Bedford.

Thanks

John
jrowney@arco.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: monitn@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Nicholas Monitto)
Subject: Re: Pink Floyd: Shine On Box Set
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 05:23:22 GMT

schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster) writes:

>In article <1993Jan3.161147.3713@Arco.COM> jrowney@arco.com writes:
>> I've just found out about this 9 (nine) CD set.  The question is -- whats on
>>it?

>At a record show last week a dealer said it's history ... out of print, and
>unsold copies recalled. When they said "limited edition" they meant it.

Hrm? I'll buy the "out of print" and "limited edition", since I've heard that
many times, but 'unsold copies recalled' I'm not so sure about. The record
stores in my area (Albany, NY and surroundings) ran out/short of the box by
Christmas, but several more appeared for the after-Christmas sales. I'd say 
its more like the 'limited edition' Fantasia release by Disney- there's maybe
a finite number which have been produced and shipped, but probably still out
there if they haven't been sold.

btw- if anyone wants a Fantasia video, they are still available. A wholesale
club has literally CASES of them left, and even the Disney store has a few left
on sale... :)

Nick
monitn@rpi.edu

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From: gruiz@Cadence.COM (gil ruiz)
Subject: Re: FYI: The Compact Disc Connection service
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 16:59:19 GMT


I have been very happy with CDC's service. I happen to live in the Bay Area, 
so I usually get my orders within 3-4 days. One time I order an import from
them and they called to tell me that there was a small ink mark on the cd. 
They wanted to know if I wanted another one or if it was okay to send the one
they had. How many mail order houses do you that will provide you that kind of
service? Give CDC a chance. You can't beat there prices or service.

Gil

Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,demon.local,bit.listserv.allmusic,comp.music,rec.music.misc
From: James Petts <pettsj@visigoth.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: CD Contains wrong music...
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 18:28:25 GMT

In article <haha.725398436@vipunen.hut.fi> Harri Haanp{{,
haha@vipunen.hut.fi writes:
>I have one CD with 28 songs. Seems the halves were the other way around..
>um.. that is, if on the cover it said the songs were in order ABCDEFGH,
on
>the CD they were EFGHABCD. At least they were all there..

So... The nuxi problem exists in music, too!

 ===> James Petts <===

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From: dplatt@ntg.com (Dave Platt)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: FYI: The Compact Disc Connection service
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:42:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Technologies Group, Inc.  Palo Alto CA

>Just a friendly warning if you place an order from CDC. I placed
>an order 13 days ago and haven't see anything yet. I'd have
>to say that I'm dissapointed. It shouldn't take more than a
>week to ship a package via UPS ground from the west coast to 
>the Illinois, let alone 5 more days to pick 5 CDs off the shelf
>and package them! Maybe I've been spoiled by the overnight delivery
>provided by MACconnection. Even if I wanted 2nd day air, they
>still indicated it could take a week to pack the order!
>
>Are you happy with this kind of service? 

I'm willing to accept it, because I believe that they do a good deal
more than "pick CDs off the shelf and package them."  CDC has a VERY
large catalog - they appear to carry the entire selection of most of the
labels that they list.  Their selection is (I understand) up to about
60,000 different titles - four times that of Noteworthy.

I would guess that CDC and Noteworthy handle their stocking and packing
in a very different manner.  Noteworthy seems to try to keep stock
in-house of all of the discs that they list, so that they can "pull" an
entire order at one shot and ship it the same day.  As a result, they
can ship discs very quickly - but their stock is necessarily limited to
those discs that they find it economical to carry in-house.  They
concentrate on newer CD releases from major labels.  Many of the minor
labels aren't carried by Noteworthy at all, and I've found their
coverage of re-releases to be rather sparse.  Noteworthy does _not_ take
special orders, as far as I know.

I believe that CDC maintains only a modest stock of discs in their
warehouse - rather less than the number of titles that they list as
being available.  When you order a disc that they don't stock, they
probably order it from the manufacturer or a distributor - I'd guess
that they send in new orders a couple of times a week.  When the orders
arrive, they break them down and sort the discs and pack them.

CDC is quite up-front about the fact that delivery requires one business
week plus the actual shipping time.

I, too, like Noteworthy's rapid delivery of the discs that they carry...
but I've found that Noteworthy carries only a fraction of the discs that
I really want.  CDC has 'em, and I'm certainly willing to wait a couple
of weeks to get them.



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From: Chris Deibel <chris@zeus.trad.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: FYI: The Compact Disc Connection service
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A764ECCB95015415@knet1-21.trad.umn.edu>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 28 Dec 92 17:41:31 GMT
Organization: Therapeutic Radiology Univ of Minnesota.
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 23:39:32 GMT

Can anyone tell me how to order from Compact Disc Connection?
Are they available over internet, or Genie, or do they have an 
800 number?
From: jeanthea@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Jeantheau)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Rush Recommendations wanted
Date: 24 Dec 92 15:00:50 GMT
Reply-To: jeanthea@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Jeantheau)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

>|> What are your recommendations?  Get Chronicles, another hits collection
>|> (if exists?), or one or two of their best albums?
>
>Given your stated preferences, I'd start with Hemispheres, and then possibly mo
>ve to newer/older disks from there.  Rush's music has evolved quite a bit over
>the years, but Hemispheres is still one of my favorites...

Agree. Also, 'A Farewell to Kings' is similar and also good. 'Signals',
my personal favorite, has a rather lush, artsie feel to it, though it 
is not "orchestral."  Actually, there isn't much of an orchestral
feel to *any* Rush albums, though I still think much of their work qualifies
as "art rock."  IMO they started sounding mechanical after Signals--they
forgot how to use melody and based every song on a synth-drum sound
and (what they thought were) deep lyrics. Rush-heads will likely flame
me for saying that, though.

Anyway, if you're just starting out with Rush, 'Hemispheres' is as decent
a place as any to start.  If you like that, try 'A Farewell to Kings',
'Signals', 'Permanent Waves', '2112', and 'Moving Pictures'.  These
albums are all very good, and I'm glad I have them (instead of a compilation).

Earlier stuff: 'Caress of Steel' is OK, others are spotty.
Later stuff: all spotty IMO (though I haven't heard 'Roll the Bones')

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From: tparker@niwot.scd.ucar.edu (Tom Parker)
Subject: Re: FYI: The Compact Disc Connection service
Organization: Scientific Computing Divison/NCAR Boulder, CO
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 04:59:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.165919.24149@Cadence.COM> gruiz@Cadence.COM (gil ruiz) writes:
>
>I have been very happy with CDC's service. I happen to live in the Bay Area, 
>so I usually get my orders within 3-4 days. One time I order an import from
>them and they called to tell me that there was a small ink mark on the cd. 
>They wanted to know if I wanted another one or if it was okay to send the one
>they had. How many mail order houses do you that will provide you that kind of
>service? Give CDC a chance. You can't beat there prices or service.
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Gil

CDC has it advantages, like a huge data base you can query and order from, but
I would have to say that Noteworthy beats their prices.  Noteworthy also has
excellent service.  I use Noteworthy for popular, mainstream stuff, and
I use CDC for hard-to-find stuff or to search for things.  They are both
fine resources.

-- Tom

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