HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel)
Subject: Re: These statistics don't lie. (unless u p
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:01:52 GMT

Mitch Sako (mitch@lsil.com) wrote:
>                                   cutting federal support of many state
> and local items (education, infrastructure, etc.) during the last 12 years
> has created state and local budget problems in a magnitude never seen before.
> 
> The solution?  Raise state and local taxes.  State and local taxes are
> regressive (fancy that!) and shift more of the burden to the poor and
> middle class.

The solution?  Cut state and local pork-barrel spending.

State and local income taxes are not regressive.


Larry
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn)
Subject: Re: The Whole "Liberal" Voting Thang
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:40:14 GMT

  Brian Walter writes:

>Yeah, Clinton took [Colorado].  Big Deal.  The reason Bill Clinton
>took this, and most states he took, is that the people think they are
>fed up with George Bush, etc.  Well, I beleive that these people have
>been made to think that way by six months of a news media which has been
>too biased than it should be in a Democratic country.

     I resent the implication that I only "think" that I am fed up with George 
Bush, and that I need the "liberal media" to tell me that the man is a complete
loser.
     Three steps from life-long Republican to Marrou voter:

     (1) After harping for months about how Saddam Hussein was another Hitler 
and how he wanted to free Kuwait for humanitarian reasons, Bush allows Hussein 
to stay in power and is paralysed when Saddam continues his 5-year war of 
extermination against the Kurds. What would Bush have done with the real 
Hitler? Let him stay in power as long as he promised to only attack the Soviets
in the future? And if Bush's heart was rent by the suffering of the Kuwaitis, 
why did it take a tremendous amount of pressure to get him to move to protect 
the Kurds?
     (2) Richard Darman on CBS in November, smugly blaming every problem the
country had on Congress. (I still can't believe that Bush kept this slimy
bastard on his team for as long as he did) I felt like I was watching a total 
abdication of leadership and responsibility.
     (3) Bush's trip to Japan. The final straw. The wimp went to Japan on his 
hands and knees to beg for jobs, as if the Japanese were the ones who should 
solve our problems. The Japanese didn't run up our $4 trillion debt and the
Japanese didn't cause our quality problems in the early and mid '80s. We made 
our problems; we should solve our problems. By pushing the responsibility onto 
someone else, Bush shamed us before the world and showed how little faith he 
had in his own people.

     Do I like Clinton? No, but I hate Bush. At least now there is a faint 
glimmer of hope, whereas before there was total darkness. We'll see what 
happens in the next four years.

                                        Steve
-- 
    Steve Casburn (scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)
    They gave me differential calculus, and I said "Hit me again"
    So they gave me integral calculus, and I said "Hit me again"
    Now I have vector calculus, and...I'm starting to lose consciousness...
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From: jogulin@pub_one.fia.dmg.ml.com (Milamber)
Subject: Re: WANKERS
Organization: The Rift from Here to There
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 13:46:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.163946.5694@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, mbur@nyx.cs.du.edu (MAC) writes:
|> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!  CLINTON WINS  HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
|> 
|> HA HA YOU BUNCH OF WANKERS.  ALL OF YOU BUSH SUPPORTERERS ARE A BUNCH OF
|> LOSERS!!!  WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO NOW YOU CRY BABIES?  ARE YA GONNA CRY TO
|> MAMA?  HAHAHAHAHAH!!!  CLINTON WINS!!!!  HERE IS A GIFT FROM ME TO ALL
|> OF YOU WANKING FOOLS:

[ picture of Billy-boy deleted ]

Was this really necessary?  If you ask me, this is a good strategy... let the
Dems get control for four years to remind people how bad it is under a Dem
pres with a Dem congress.  The Republicans could lock up the Oval office for
the next two decades... :-)

What we're gonna do?  Well, I'll tell you:

	1) Keep a list of EVERY promise Billy-boy made along the way
	   and make sure EVERYONE knows any time he even bends one of them
	2) Refuse to go to a conflict/war, should one come up.
	3) Protest every little thing... :-)

and most importantly:

	4) Be good sports about the election and beat him to a pulp in the
	   next one.

-- 
==> "You never f**king know the answer when it's important." --The Doctor <==
Joe Ogulin

jogulin@camelot.fia.dmg.ml.com		joe@stardock.pilot.dmg.ml.com
jogulin@apollo.stevens-tech.edu		gcs_jogulin@stevens.bitnet

Disclaimer:  The above article is solely my opinion and does not necessar-
ily reflect that of my employer.  The content is my responsibility alone.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,alt.rush-limbaugh
From: dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks)
Subject: Re: Electoral Mandate?
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:19:33 GMT

In article <2098@celia.UUCP>, steve@celia.UUCP (Steve Tyree) writes:
|>  The Landslide Media Myth is also exposed when you examine what happened
|> at the state level senate and house races. The republicans did exceptionally
|> well. A total of 10 states had a shift in the ruling party of either the
|> house or senate. All shifts went to the republicans.

That's a carefully selected statistic.  In Massachusetts, the (non-ruling)
Republicans in Senate had a serious reversal.  Now William Weld, who is a
popular Republican governor facing a Democratic legislature, has a problem:
his Senate is 4 short of override-proof.  This will keep his attention
firmly at home for two years.

Perhaps we will finally hear of the human costs of restoring our bond
rating.  The Mass state Democrats have been very quiet for two years. 
-- 
David Brooks					dbrooks@osf.org
Open Software Foundation			uunet!osf.org!dbrooks
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Rush is the man, Clinton is a homosexual
Summary: Just which map are you using?!?
Keywords: Clinton
Organization: Rice University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:38:52 GMT

In article <101554@bu.edu> kane@buast7.bu.edu (Hot Young Star) writes:
>kreece@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Kevin Reece) writes:
>
>>Although Clinton maybe elected President, he still belongs in that
>>pathetic state called Arkansas.  Instead of Bush debating Clinton, Rush
>>should have debated Clinton.
>
>If I remember right, Rush Limbaugh is from Cape Girardeau, Missouri,
>which is smack dab on the Arkansas border.

He's from Cape Girardeau -- but you better take a look at a decent map.
The only way it's "smack dab" on the Arkansas border is if you mean "within
90 miles".  Perhaps you were thinking of Illinois, since it's right there on
the Mississippi looking across at *that* state.

>Cape Girardeau probably has more in common with Little Rock than it does
>with Missouri cities.

It might, if it was where you said it was -- but it's only 250 kilometers
from St. Louis, and as long as I can remember, it's been your average river
town along the upper Mississippi.  You ought to visit that part of Missouri
(and adjacent Illinois, and Kentucky, which is only 80 kilometers or so
away, and closer than Arkansas -- so much for your sense of geography) some
time.


-- 
Patrick L. Humphrey  (patrick@is.rice.edu)  Rice Networking & Computing Systems
     713 528-3626 or 527-4989 at Rice, 713 776-1541 or 981-5952 at home. 
  (This .sig is costing the net hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars -- but
           every little bit helps when you're pumping up the GNP...) 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel)
Subject: Re: Shrub goes 0 for 3
Organization: Cadence Design Systems
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 20:51:43 GMT

In article <92294.162929SMM130@psuvm.psu.edu> SMM130@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>
>     Okay, listen here, bub.  I would like to know who exactly does these polls
>to which you refer.  If I'm right, a majority of them were done by the media, w
>hich is highly biased against Bush and for Clinton.  Also, I'm pretty darn curi
>ous about why Clinton won the debate when he:

Ah, yes -- yet another dittohead who believes Rush when he claims that Clinton
is being "shielded" by the media, and that the media is highly biased toward
the liberal view.

In actual fact, the media tends to reflect the composition of the people who
pay attention to the media.  If the media is highly liberal, that means the
people who pay attention to the media are highly liberal, and the people being
liberal PRECEDES the media being liberal.

The media does not lead the American people around by the nose.

>If you listen to everything the
>media tells you, you give up free thinking.  I don't believe that there is a gr
>eater crime than that anywhere in the world.

Actually, if you listen to *everything* the media tells you, you will be pretty
well informed, and if you engage your brain -- an organ most people only seem
to use as ballast for their head -- you will be able to create an informed
opinion.  As opposed to having your opinions created for you by someone such
as Rash Lamebrain.

-Pete Zakel
 (phz@cadence.com or ..!uunet!cadence!phz)

How long a minute is depends on which side of the bathroom door you're on.
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From: bboerner@novell.com (Brendan B. Boerner)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.bush,talk.bizarre,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Liberals want to remove Admendment #10? (was Re: rmgroup alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:51:16 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc. --Austin

In article <1dmb3tINNssu@agate.berkeley.edu> curtis@cs.berkeley.edu (Curtis Yarvin) writes:
>In article <BD.92Nov9101030@fluent.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
>|>|I'm a liberal - which one of the amendments is it I'm
>|>|supposed to not be in support of?
>|>
>|>Uh, the Tenth?
>|>
>|>Guess the water supply in Hanover is kind of low in clueides.
>|
>|The Tenth?  The one that says "The powers not delegated to the 
>|United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the 
>|States, are reserved to the States, respectively, or to the people".
>|
>|I get my water from a well, and since it *is* apparently low on clueides,
>|could you explain in more detail what you're talking about?
>
>Okay, here's the gist of it:
>
>See, what it says is that the powers which aren't delegated to
>the United States by the Constitution, or prohibited by it to
>the States, are reserved to the States, right, or to the people.

Hmmm, I guess Austin's water is low of clueides because I'm confused
also.

Here's a for instance: suppose I get my jollies juggling whiffle
balls.  Do I have a right to juggle whiffle balls?

You seem to think that because of #10, since the Constitution says
nothing about whiffle balls as they relate to the United States (or how
the U.S. relates to whiffle balls for that matter), then it is NOT a
right because issue involving whiffle balls are left up to the
states.

What I think is that it is saying that various _powers_ that gov't are
wont to be exercising are reserved for the States or people if not
explicitly delegated to the U.S.  Powers, not rights.  IMHO, the US
gov. is around to protect my rights (not that it has been doing that
good a job of it granted).  If Texas tries to step in and say I don't
have a right to juggle whiffle balls, I cry foul and try to get the
U.S. to protect my whiffle ball juggling right.

Why do I think whiffle ball juggling is a right?  Because of my right
to privacy (which has been pointed out was been brought before the
S.C.  before Roe v. Wade) - I have the right to be left to myself, to
pursue my affairs as I see fit.  Whoa, you cry, (actually some other
poster cried), then what's to prevent you from pursuing your affairs by
killing off your wife in your bedroom?  Well then, that would be
interfering with my wife's right to be left alone now wouldn't it?

A similar argument I think can be made for smoking - I believe that
everyone has the right to a smoke BUT when that smoke reaches my face,
then my right to privacy is being interfered with.

Brendan
-- 
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From: scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn)
Subject: Re: WANKERS
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:03:37 GMT

  P.J. Finerty writes:

>HEY, I RESENT THAT. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH CAPS YOU RED COMMIE
>BASTARD. IT'S MY GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO USE WHAT EVER STYLE AND FONT I DESIRE.
>YOU MUST HAVE QUITE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH ANAL ORIFICES TO BE SO SURE
>THERE WAS ONE HIDDEN IN THAT TEXT. NEXT TIME YOU FEEL LIKE POSTING TAKE A
>DEEP BREATH AND PLUNGE A GINSU KNIFE INTO YOUR CHEST. YOU MAKE ME SO SICK
>I CAN TASTE THE BILE IN MY MOUTH. kindly fuck off(tm)
>
>--
>         PJF--->BIOCHEM GRAD. STUDENT--U of UTAH oh yeah
                                             ^^^^
>               "i am such a stupid,ignorant son of a bitch.
>                           please kill me now."
>                                       "React with this!"

     Yup, he's from Utah all right.

                                 Steve
-- 
    Steve Casburn (scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)
    They gave me differential calculus, and I said "Hit me again"
    So they gave me integral calculus, and I said "Hit me again"
    Now I have vector calculus, and...I'm starting to lose consciousness...
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From: tom@eagle.imagen.com (tom lowdermilk)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh,talk.bizarre,misc.test,alt.politics.elections,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,alt.job.gooley
Subject: Re: WANKERS
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:20:39 GMT
Reply-To: tom@eagle.imagen.com (tom lowdermilk)
Organization: imagen

In article <1992Nov4.163946.5694@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, mbur@nyx.cs.du.edu (MAC) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!  CLINTON WINS  HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
|> 
|> HA HA YOU BUNCH OF WANKERS.  ALL OF YOU BUSH SUPPORTERERS ARE A BUNCH OF
|> LOSERS!!!  WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO NOW YOU CRY BABIES?  ARE YA GONNA CRY TO
|> MAMA?  HAHAHAHAHAH!!!  CLINTON WINS!!!!  HERE IS A GIFT FROM ME TO ALL
|> OF YOU WANKING FOOLS:
|> 


- such mature and inciteful comments(!) usually one needs to frequent
low cost drinking establishments or automobile repair centers to enjoy
such thoughtful conversation. Alas if abortion becomes more widespread
I fear you and blessed ilke may be sucked out of the body politic.
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From: marcr@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Marc Rassbach)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Electoral Mandate?
Date: 5 Nov 1992 18:10:28 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
NNTP-Posting-Host: studsys.mscs.mu.edu

In article <1992Nov5.000942.29995@EE.Stanford.EDU> budd@playfair.Stanford.EDU (David Budd) writes:
>In article <1d8sc3INNs7r@spool.mu.edu> marcr@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Marc Rassbach) writes:
>>Hmph.  How short memories are.  Do you remember the Reagan Landslide
>>vs. Mondale?  Fritz got few elect. collage votes but was within a few %age of
>>Ron in the popular vote.  Yet the 'major news sources' (aka Peter Jennings)
>>describe it as a landslide.
>>So the media is being consistant here.

In the Words Of Rush Limbaugh III  "My usually reliable srouce was wrong."

I have clipped the 'prez section' from the papers in the town I was in.
The Leader-Telegram had a section and had a 6.5% number.  Looking at
other sources, it seems it was a typo.

So much for the media.
-- 
Marc Rassbach    marcr@studsys.mscs.mu.edu    If you take my advice, that
MS-DOS - it's not   marc@milestn.mil.wi.us    is your problem, not mine!
my problem!     If it was said on UseNet, it must be true.
   Unix - It's a nice place to live, but you don't want to visit there.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: enor@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: Sore LosDEREGISTER
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 00:02:43 GMT

It ceases to amaze me how the Liberals are such sore
winners.  We who call ourselves conservatives have 
been very gracious to Mr. Clinton saying we hope for
the sake of the country that he does a good job.  This 
is a far cry from the teary eyed Liberal attack of 
George Bush from the Halls of Congress for the past 
four years.  

We look forward to working with a Clinton Administration
to bring about the best for America.  However we will 
disagree with him on pertinent issues.  I wish him luck
but have this feeling that the American people will
be fed up with him by June of '93.  Maybe I'll be wrong
for that is in the best interest of the country.


Robert R. Eno A Conservative voice in Liberal Massachusetts
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 And I had to start again with just my children and my wife
 I'd thank my lucky stars to be living here today
 Where the flag still stands for freedom and they can't take that 
      	away"

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich)
Subject: Boxer vs. Herschensohn (was Re: Rush is such a bad loser)
Organization: LLNL
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:41:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.062009.7704@EE.Stanford.EDU> budd@playfair.Stanford.EDU (David Budd) writes:

	[On how Herschensohn ran a cleaner campaign than Boxer did...]

	But I do think that that Boxer campaigner _had_ brought up a
good point about H's character. If he was in the habit of going to
seedy strip joints, then how can he properly call himself a champion
of "Family Values"? And that bit about only buying magazines like the
"Far Eastern Economic Review"? That's like someone who claims to read
"Playboy" only for the interviews or Bill Clinton claiming that he
didn't inhale. If Bill Clinton is to be judged by his character, then
so is Bruce Herschensohn.

	In comparison to him, Boxer seems like a nun. Even H's
campaign staff has never claimed that she does things like go to San
Francisco gay strip joints (I'm trying to think of some female
counterpart for what H supposedly did).

Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: rdavis@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert Davis)
Subject: S.O.S.: Help save Dan Quayle from the raging liberals
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 18:25:03 GMT

Greetings fellow dittoheads!  Over in alt.fan.dan-quayle, the Vice President
is undergoing a ton of unfair bashing by a mob of jealous, resentful, 
loathsome people of the L word persuasion.  Those far-left-wing liberals
just won't let up on him, or those, very few of us, who are defending him.
We could use a bit of help in defending him against all of those false
accusations that they have been flinging at him.  They're also picking
on Jessie Helms.  Thanks for any help!    

-- 
Robert D. Davis            |  VAX/VMS is a text-only adventure game.  If       
rdavis@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu  !  you win, you get to use UNIX.  If you fail, 
uunet!mystica!rdd          |  you get to use an IBM-PC running MeSsy-DOS
Telephone: 1-410-744-7964  !  with MeSsy-Windows or an Apple Macintosh.
From: mitch@lsil.com (Mitch Sako)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why alt.fan.rush-limbaugh????
Date: 11 Nov 92 02:01:16 GMT
Reply-To: mitch@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Computing Systems

In article 69142@cup.portal.com, sjthomas@cup.portal.com (Stephen J Thomas) writes:
>I have been lurking in this group since I found it about a week ago.  Since
>I was not here at its creation, I wonder if somebody could tell me what is
>the purpose of alt.fan.rush-limbaugh??  Is it to discuss Rush and his shows,
>or to discuss what Rush discusses?  I realize that there will be some 
>overlap, but it seem that around 80% of postings here are more related to
>issues -- and there are plenty of groups for discussions of issues.  15%
>of postings seem to be from people who hate Rush -- and are certainly not
>his fans.  It appears that only about 5% of postings are appropriate based
>on the name of this group.
>   Of course, if these other topics are appropriate for this group, then
>no problem!  So I return to my question:
>    What is the purpose of alt.fan.rush-limbaugh??

There is a tremendous amount of cross-posting that goes on in this group.
Most of it comes from a.f.d-q, a.p.bush, a.p.clinton, etc.  Hopefully,
that will stop now that the election is over.

Anything about Rust Limbo (positive or negative) is OK with most people here.

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