HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: zeng@ecf.toronto.edu (ZENG Roger Wei Gang)
Subject: >>> Mini Guide For Viewing GIF Pictures On Unix <<<
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 01:57:39 GMT

Hi all ...

It's me again. Sorry for not posting for the last few days. I'm having my
finals and things got pretty tough these few days. Although I was pretty
much fried in each of the exams I had, I'm glad it's ALMOST over! Donna if any
of you netters are messing with these shitty differetail equations and
circuits stuff. Anyway, it seems like not a lot of people really went
through the FAQ I posted, so I'm posting another pic today along with this
mini-guide for viewing gif on Unix. Hope it ease up the stress of finals a
bit. 

Anyway, I have received a lot of complains about not getting the pictures
posted here. So I write up this mini guide for download and viewing pictures
on Unix. If you don't have a Unix account or you don't have graphical
terminal. You don't have to be concerned with this. If you really don't know
what to do with the picture in your account and you have access to DOS
machine. You may drop me a mail. If there's sufficient demand, I'll try to
write up a DOS guide too. But that's will be in the holidays. Anyway, here
it is, hope it helps.

Later.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
		<<< MINI GUIDE FOR VIEWING GIF ON UNIX 	>>>

You don't really have to worry about uuencode if you just want to see the
picture. uudecode is used after you have saved the picture posting into your
own account. To save the picture, go to the posting (i.e. have the body of
the posting on your screen) and type the command, if you're using "rn"

s aa

you can use any valid file name in the place of "aa". Then exit "rn" -- the
news reader. Now go to the directory where you have aa or whatever you
called it, type

uudecode aa

after the command is complete, you'll get the .gif file, being friend1.gif,
miss.gif, test1.gif, yl.gif or whatever. Now you can delete the encoded
picture aa since it's not of use anymore.

To see the .gif picture. You'll have to have a graphical terminal. If you
don't, you'll have to either download the picture to your home pc or print
it out. Let's assume you have a graphical terminal, use either "xview" or
"xv" or "xloadimage" to see the picture. The command line is:

[gif viewer name] [gif file name]

So for example, if I want to view miss.gif using xview, I would type

xview miss.gif

And that's it. you get the picture. If this doesn't work, the matter is much
more complicated. Try this first, o.k.?

Good luck!

-- 
	N E W   Y E A R 		Roger Zeng
      G R E E T I N G S !		Engeering Science 9T5
					University of Toronto
					e-mail: zeng@ecf.toronto.edu
From: chx@dblab.is.tsukuba.ac.jp (Chen Han Xiong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Is Taiwanese CHinese?
Date: 17 Dec 92 01:58:44 GMT
	<1992Dec9.220621.7872@cbnews.cb.att.com> <104764@bu.edu>
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Organization: Inst. of Info. Sci. & Elec., Univ. of Tsukuba, Tsukuba City,
	Ibaraki, Japan


   >By the same token, if you are right, then Taiwanese is not any more
   >Chinese. Just a joke?

If the mainland gets rich, then it is Chinese, otherwise, No. Just like that
Okinawa was not a part of Jp, but it is, now, and people of Okinawa likes
to be Japanese now, even if they didn't.

Just a joke.
--
                                            
  ::	Hanxiong Chen 
  ::    Email: chx@dblab.is.tsukuba.ac.jp   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: gang@ms.uky.edu (Gang Li)
Subject: Re: laughable encounter in Beijing airport
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:28:07 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

dwong@chopsuey.pico ( paganini's admirer ) writes:

>Last time in Beijing airport I asked the guy at the information desk where the
>washroom (xi2 xio3 jen1 (sp?)) was.  His unhappy reply was: "xi2xio3 jen1" is in
>the toilet (che4 so3)!".  :-)   Well naturally I asked him again where the toilet
>was and got the proper direction.

While it took me a while to realize that the rest room means toilet here. In
my mind rest room should be a place where I can have a pleasure talk with a
girl. Rest should be REST.

>David W.
From: s245@cs.utexas.edu (Spring Class Account)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: articles from pro-chinese
Date: 13 Dec 1992 15:20:51 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: soc
NNTP-Posting-Host: nada.cs.utexas.edu

>As to CCP, due to its strong performance in the last decade, it is unlikely 
>that it will become history dust any time soon.

I believe the majority of the Chinese people might give CCP a lot of credits

for China's economic reforms in the last decade.

After all, it is the Chinese people who will decide whether to give CCP another

chance.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Maybe I was not very careful in my original statement, I also believe that if a

different party were the ruling party for China, it might have done a better

job than the CCP.




Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:32785 soc.culture.hongkong:16345 talk.politics.china:3447 soc.culture.taiwan:16225
From: mhuang@bu.edu (Maohai Huang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,talk.politics.china,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: The Nature of Democracy (7)
Date: 16 Dec 92 01:36:48 GMT
	<2DEC199200231288@rosie.uh.edu>
	<1992Dec2.195853.22421@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>
	<1frimrINNg18@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU>
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Organization: Boston University
In-reply-to: jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au's message of 6 Dec 92 00:49:31 GMT

In article <1frimrINNg18@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU> jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Lord Automato) writes:

<deleted>
>
> The problem is that many mainland Chinese in the newsgroup like to impose their
> way of thinking to others. Indeed, that is the problem with China nowadays.

 a facet of the culture. take it easy.

> Lin Can
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by the way, what are these anyway?/
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china

Dear friends,


The attached message is one of many replies and/or comments I have received in
the last few days.  The response to the call for support is extremely well.  It
tells us that anything can be done if the will is there.  Now, comes to the 
reality that the time is short.  Some of you might not have 'nouf time left
to send a Christmas card or two.  Don't worry about the timing.  The point is 
to go with the tidal wave of this campaign.  Keep sending letters and greeting
cards for the Chinese New Year, as Janet suggested below, or for the Lunar 
calendar January 15 (Song Yuan Jie).  As Morey said in his message, the more
letters the merrier...

"WRITE ON!!" Morey also said.  For those who do not know Morey, let me introduce
him in thirty seconds.  He is an individual of many talents and energy.  We have
to wait for other occasion to formally introduce him and the movement he has
been associated with.  In a nutshell, Morey is, let me proudly say, a member of
SVDC and the former president of the Soviet Jewish Movement, an organization
based in Sunnyvale,CA with more than 100,000 members worldwide.  They has been
in operation for nearly thirty year now.  Started by a Jewish-American returning
from a visit to the Soviet Union.  It began with a membership of about twenty-
five people.  The rest of the story of Morey's leadership and the incredible
work his organization did has been known by many - they lobbied both the U.S.
government/Congress and the Soviet Government/Congress resulting in the releases
of many many prisoners of conscience and the migration of more than 100,000
Soviet Jews to Israel, the United States, and many European countries.

One of SVDC's unwritten goals is to become as successful as the Soviet Jewish
Movement one day.  I believe that all SVDC members on or off this net would 
agree with me.


Ignatius ding
SVDC Communications
===============================================================================

Subject: Re: Encouraging Info.
To: ding@hpsmtc1.cup.hp.com
Status: RO

Dear Ignatius,
	Since Christmas is coming soon and it takes time for letters/cards to
reach wherever you're sending.  I think it would be more meaningful to do
the letter/cards for prisoners for Chinese New year -- January 23, 1993 is
the first day of the Chinese New Year.  What do you think?
							Janie
From: weig@qut.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Warning to CCP Running Dogs
Date: 19 Dec 92 13:07:15 EST
Followup-To: soc.culture.hongkong
Organization: Queensland University of Technology

In article <3484@peking.gdwb.oz.au>, mlt@gdwb.oz.au (Mee Teng) writes:
> anthony@cs.uq.oz.au (Anthony Lee) writes:
> 
>>In <75583@apple.apple.COM> lai@Apple.COM (Ed Lai) writes:
> 
>>>This is an important point, these jerks are running dog for ccp, not
>>>for China. We fall into their trick if we let them claim they are
>>>looking after the interest of China. They are not. They are just looking
>>>after the interest of the ccp mafia master. That is why I change this
>>>subject to ccp running dog.
> 
>>Agree entirely.  What I find interesting is how history is
> 
> Anthony, this article doesn't quite sound like from you. I
> read many articles of yours before you are dragged into this
> 'flame war', and I have the opinion that you are a more
> sensible person.
> For one thing the words 'running dogs' even myself (suppose
> to be 'antique ' in thinking) would not use.
> 
Do you mean you are more "sensible" than Anthony by posting the above personal
advice (or rather an attempt to embarrass) on the net? E-mail would be a 
better way!

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: hsue@ellis.uchicago.edu (yung chang  hsueh)
Subject: R: How to Sell Chinese Paintings?
Reply-To: hsue@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 05:39:52 GMT

I know there is a person who is in charge of Overseas Chinese Artists
Association.  He may be interested in the paintings you have. As I know
of he is currently preparing a world-tour of Chinese paintings exhibition
which is a good opportunity to sell paintings. You may wante to contact him
right away. Here is his Email address: linchen@husc3.harvard.edu.

Good Luck.
From: yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: An Old Arithmatic Problem
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:10:24 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <BzBCnL.CBC@cs.psu.edu> wang@math.psu.edu writes:
>
>ii) What do these groups have in common? Can you find any other
>    similar groups?

 1  5  5  5
 3  3  7  7
 4  4  7  7
 2  2 11 11
 2  2 13 13
11  5  7  5
11  5  7  7

I re-arranged your number little bit.  Essentially, the product of two
numbers in the middle, plus/minus the number in the first column, gives
the answer.  The last number should equal one of the number in the
middle:

  7*(5-11/7) ...

-- 
//Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh //Go your way, be happy.
From: ding@hpsmtc1.cup.hp.com (Ignatius Ding)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 01:47:55 GMT
Subject: Somalia Relief Effort
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china

             * * * For The Starving Somali Childrens * * * 


      In the spirit of "Operation Restore Hope", some of us in th
Chinese-American community have decided to launch a donation drive to raise
funds for the Somalia relief effort.  We believe that the matter is so urgent.
None of us can sit on our hands to wait for someone to knock on our front doors
asking for help.  There is no boundary of race, nationality, religion, or
anything else when we face the needs of saving lives.

      We have organized a fundraising party to solicit donations.  It will be
held at the Chinese American Culture Center, 1269 Forgewood, Sunnyvale (Ph.
408-747-0394) on December 30th.  We will start a year-end party inviting the
general public to attend at no charge.	We will provide snacks, drinks, and
music to entertain the guests.	All expenses will be paid by the families of
our friends.  The program will start at 7:00PM.  We will hold an auction at
8:00PM with items donated by the sponsoring families and various organizations.
All proceeds will go directly to the Santa Clara Valley Chapter of the Red
Cross.	We will request donors to write their checks to Red Cross designated to
the "Somalia Relief" effort.

      This project have the support of local Catholic churches, Baptists,
Buddhists, social, ethnic, and professional organizations to participate.  We
also have some human rights and educational organizations joining us.  I am
affiliated with the Chinese Institute of Engineers, an institution with more
than a hundred old history, Silicon Valley for Democracy in China, an
international human rights organization, and several other smaller groups.  We
will invite other ethnic groups to join us too.  For example, we will contact
the Coordination Council for the Central/Eastern Europeans, an alliance of the
Eurasians from Poland, Hungary, Baltic States, and the Commonwealth of the
Independent States.

      Anyone who is interested to get invloved in this project and/or can get
other organizations to co-sponsor it, please send me an e-mail at this address.
Happy holidays to you all.


Ignatius Y. Ding
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: chinese text editors wanted.!!!!
From: dang7864@mtroyal.ab.ca
Date: 20 Dec 92 01:07:37 MST
Organization: Mount Royal College, Calgary, Alberta

Greetings Everyone...

I am wondering if there's any good programs that allows me to write in chinese
characters on a PC based platform.  

I am currently using the CEDIT program, but find that the program is quite
limited.  If there's something else outthere that would allow me to use the PC
for letter or small writing tasks, please post a return message.

I need to know:  name of the software,
                 where to get the program.
                 cost of the program (state if shareware/commercial.)

Thanks.
From: jdc@cs.purdue.edu (Jindon Chen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Looking for Kuang YingHong and Kuang YingHui
Date: 14 Dec 1992 23:21:35 -0500
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: atri.cs.purdue.edu


Ye Qing in Purdue University is looking for her friends
Kuang YingHong and Kuang YingHui, who are believed in 
Auburn University.

Anyone knows any info please so kind as to reply to this 
message.

Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xzhao+@CS.CMU.EDU (Xudong Zhao)
Subject: Re: a fun problem
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:32:56 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.231649.29743@risky.ecs.umass.edu>, mirsip@risky.ecs.umass.edu (Ivan Popstefanija) writes:
|> 
|> The problem I had was this:
|> 12 balls, one of them is slightly different in weight than the other 11.
|> Given a balance, what's the least times you need to find that different
|> ball. 
|> The answer is, 3.
|> Now, you tell me how you could do it!
|> 
|> 

Better yet, For n>=1,

(3^n)/2 balls, one of them is different in weight. 
Find it using a balance in n times. 

Figure out if it is heavy or light if there is a standard ball available.
In n times, of course.

---- Congratulations, Bill!
---- What bill? Red card this time?

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: 24 points poker game: answer and new game.
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:06:40 GMT

In article <798@blue.cis.pitt.edu> yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding) writes:
>In article <BzBsI0.Co6@news.iastate.edu> zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>>
>>Can we use the operation of taking the sqaure root?
>
>No no, this one doesn't need even fractionals as the first one.
>
>-- 
>//Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh //Go your way, be happy.

(10*10-4)/4
From: yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: chinese text editors wanted.!!!!
Date: 20 Dec 92 14:33:58 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Dec20.010737.3005@mtroyal.ab.ca> dang7864@mtroyal.ab.ca writes:
>
>I am currently using the CEDIT program, but find that the program is quite

You can get DNGDNG12.ZIP (formerly CEDIT) from cs.pitt.edu (130.49.2.61)
under directory /pub/incoming.   It has improved a lot as a shareware
with pinyin input, customizable lianxiang dictionary and PS print with 5
fonts and any scale.

-- 
//Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh //Go your way, be happy.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xic@utkvx2.utk.edu
Subject: She is Ugly
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:32:00 GMT

In my opinion, the girl on test1.jpg is not pretty, but a kind of ugly.
Maybe we have different taste.  This picture appeared on a.b.p.e.
a few weeks ago, but it was not on this name.  If you would like to post
some pictures, you had better keep the original name of the file if
it is available.  It will save others a lot of time.  In my rememberance,
not long after this file posted in a.b.p.e., some one made a joke to
the lady on the picture.  They posted a same picture with some distortion,
it was definately more ugly. I am sorry that I did not keep them.

Besides, I thought there is a rule in this group not posting pictures rated
"R".  This picture violated the rule, I think.  I do not know if the rule
is changed, since there are a lot of much much better R pictures can be 
posted if the ban is lifted.  Can some one make the rule clear again?  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: swg9183@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Shiming  Wu)
Subject: HIV test
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 17:57:30 GMT
Keywords: HIV test
From: yao@ee.rochester.edu (Meng Yao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: I am being investigated!
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:00:58 GMT
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science

In article <1992Dec11.93216.17574@ms.uky.edu> gang@ms.uky.edu (Gang Li) writes:
>How exciting! I am being investigated. Althought I don't know which agency is
>doing this, there is a message in our computer:
>
>---------------
>	This system is for the use of authorized users only.  Use
>	of this system expresses consent to having all activities
>	monitored by system personnel to maintain security.
>--------------
>
>I would leave my will here, if I disappear someday, don't believe that I am 
>dead of illness, suicide, accident, mental illness or missing or whatever. It
>can't be.
>Oh my lord, please don't do this to me. I just doing what I think you want me
>to do, don't choose me, please, maybe you got the wrong one.
>AH, they are coming .... sssseeeeee yyyyyyooooooouuu aaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllll

I would say that is a message from your computer consultant. Don't panic.
You won't be killed.

Meng
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: jshao@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (jing shao)
Subject: Looking for Li Xun from 8500 of USTC
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 02:08:11 GMT

Hi:
 
    I need to get the current address,E-Mail or Tel #  of Li Xun,who
is from Juvenile Class 85 of USTC, and is said to have got his master's
degree and working in California right now. Prof. Xiao Chenguo, Head of
Dept. of SEGY, has asked me to help find his information. 

    Would you please send me a message at the address below if you
happen to know his information. Thanx a lot for your help in advance.

Good Luck for everyone!

Shao Jing
From 8700/872 of USTC
From: ma@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Ask Help about BYU 
Date: 17 Dec 92 09:50:33 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

A new student from China is going to BYU. Can anyone from BYU provide some
information, such as the names, phone numbers of the chair members of the
Chinese Student Association, housing information, etc.? Please send me
e-mail. 
Thanks in advance.
Ma
ma@cc.usu.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: wang@math.psu.edu (Feng Wang)
Subject: Answer to fun problem and yet another fun problem
Reply-To: wang@math.psu.edu
Organization: Dept. of Mathematics, Penn State University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 02:31:28 GMT

In article 0C797620@Msu.oscs.montana.edu, uphhswh@Msu.oscs.montana.edu () writes:
>In article <BzFCF5.HJI@nic.umass.edu>, s9874203@titan.ucc.umass.edu (s9874203) writes:
>>In article <BzEy8M.3z8@cs.psu.edu> wang@math.psu.edu writes:
>>>
>>>Now would you like to play the game?
>>
>>Yes, because the expected value is infinity. But the catch is that I
>>should have a large amount of money to be prepared.:-)
>>
>
>stop sir, I dont want to see you lose until your pants.
>the average income is 50c after you pay $10 to play.
>
>W.Huang
>
>

Actually, the expected value (or the average income) he could win per game
IS infinity.  So it is true that he will win big money in a long run.  But
how long?  I didn't calculate that.  I just know that suppose we play 2000
times, I will have to pay $10000+ to him but he should pay me $20000 to play.
At this stage you are right to say he would lose big; and he is also right
to say he needs a large amount of money prepared.  It would take him much
much longer to break even, but do you think I am willing to play indefinitely?
So in theory he is the winner, and in practice I am the winner.  (Don't you
guys think this is a little wierd?)
At the beginning I said ``everybody wants to win some big money'', that
includes myself. :-)

By the way, another person, Hui Long, sent me an email, and made the wise
choice: not to play.  


OK, maybe this game is too theoretical to be fun, so let me provide another:
(The following also appeared in Parade magazine "Ask Marilyn" column, and
I think it's related to the car/goat problem)

Let's put three cards in a hat: one card has two red sides, one card has two
white sides, and the remaining one has one red side and one white side.
then we take one card out of the hat, and put it on the table.  We can only
see the upper side of the card, say it's red.  Then I bet the other side
is the same color (in this case, red).  Now we turn over the card and look
at the other side: if it's white I pay you $1; if it's red you pay me $1.
Do you think the game is fair?
From: eng20089@nusunix1.nus.sg (CHAN PAK FAN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: test
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:39:24 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


   	This is the first time i post article here, i'm not sure whether
this is the right group, but i couldn't think of any other groups yet.

	I've seen about 40 china students today, they came to my hostel,
i talked to them for a short while, they told me they are from Canton
province, they are under some exchange program to study in Singapore for
their first year undergraduate courses. They were first year in 'Ji Nan
University' or 'University of Transportation ( not so sure about this )'
 There are altogether 100 of them ( 1 decided not to come at the end,
so ended up 99 ) . Think this is the first time chinese government have
such program for undergraduate students, for so many of them ! I heard
students in Fujian province also involved.

	I wonder whether there are students sent to other countries as
well? Is this a new program ( they have to pay for their own
accommodations, not sure whether it's a kind of scholarship ) ?


-chen baifan-

   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: rdu@iastate.edu (Runqing Du)
Subject: Looking for CHENG JUN-HUA
Keywords: looking
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 04:38:37 GMT

Please email to rdu@iastate.edu

Thanks in advance.



Newsgroups: soc.culture.china