From: rob@vger.cheme.cornell.edu
Subject: Re: Cure: I Wish...
Reply-To: rob@vger.cheme.cornell.edu
Organization: Chemical Engineering, Cornell University, NY
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:23:29 GMT

In article <mtl2001-071092160715@m248-104.bgsu.edu>, mtl2001@andy.bgsu.edu (Gretchen) writes:
>
>In article <1992Oct1.150523.20549@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>, apash@mta.ca
>wrote:
>> 
>> In article <u882517.717902263@bruny>, u882517@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Blos!) writes:
>> >kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>> >>>> 
>> >>BAD POINT. That makes no sense. So they can start churning out Tiffany-style
>> >>music and I should still adore them?
>> >
>> >>"Rape me like a child... christened in blood... painted like an unknown saint... 
>> >>the only choice is left... your voice is dead and old and always empty..."
>> >>vs.
>> >>"Monday Tuesday Wednesday blahblahblah..."
>> >
>> >>Even Lovesong was great IMOFOSPO because it took convention and turned it on
>> >>its head... "Whenever I'm alone with you/You make me feel like I am free again"
>> >>                                                                        
>> >>So let's just lay it on the line... once the Cure made some good music... as
>> >>recently as 1989 by my count, but the best was 1980-1982. So I'm not a "real
>> >>fan" for no longer adoring them? Oh no! Certainly not like those high school
>> >>kids with their _Wish_ t-shirts!! 
>> >
>> >>Yeah I must say I can't hate the Cure for making a trashy album. But I'll be
>> >>damned if I'll listen to anyone try and say that they're "alternative" these
>> >>days or that the new stuff is good and I should adore them. Respect for an
>> >>individual should be separate from respect for their art. And people shouldn't
>> >>be so blind as to love anything a favorite group makes.
>> >
>> >Hear, hear!  This is the most accurate description of the way things stand
>> >with the Cure I hace read.  The best track record in the world does not even
>> >slightly excuse the lame shite on _Wish_...I just don't really care what
>> >they do any more.  I wish they'd split up after _Disintegration_, because
>> >that would have been the ultimate epitaph.
>> >
>> >			Matt.
>>    What exactly is your problem anyhow? The way I see it is you think
>>  that just because_Wish_ went Top 10 that The Cure are no longer
>>  alternative.The album _Wish_ is just as alternative and just as
>>  much Cure as any other Cure album. So what if they have a couple
>>  happy,poppy songs on it, that's not exactly anything new for them
>>  (Why can't I be you?,Love cats, Hot Hot Hot,etc.). I happen to like
>>  a lot of those songs and they are just as much of the Cure as their
>>  slow depressing songs and if for some reason you don't like those 
>>  songs then listen to the rest of_Wish_ it's not exactly what I'd call
>>  "lame shit". IMHO the Cure haven't changed their sound any with _Wish_
>>  and if you want to dislike the Cure just because they got a Top 10 hit
>>  then I guess that's your perogative. In my opinion that's just as bad as
>>  the Top 40 junkies disliking a band because they don't have a Top 10 hit.
>>                                                    
>>                                                   A.Pash
>> 
>>                                        
>
>************ Wait a minute...the cure hasn't changed their style? No no no
>no-- they indeed have, and I would say (as much as it hurts) that it's for
>the worse. They should have broke up after 89, it would have been the
>educated thing to do....I still listen to them, they are my favorite
>band....but no way can you compare the sound of The Top or Japanese
>Whispers to that of Wish. Do you even have The Top, Boys Don't Cry, Faith,
>Seven Seconds, etc? Or do you compare Wish to that of Disintegration?(
>which was good, but not that good) I never thought that I would ever hear
>the phrase "let's get happy" from Robert Smith's voice......whatever
>happened to Pornography's morbidness..I liked that..and I was disappointed
>at the Wish concert when they didn't play those kind of old songs. I was
>sickened when I looked around at the concert and saw all of those "kids"
>with Wish shirts on MC Hammer dancing to Friday, I'm In Love and then
>sitting down during songs like A Night Like This and A Forest. If anyone
>adores Smith and the Cure it would be me, but give me a break, their sound
>has changed a whole lot since the days when Tolhurst and Rob were in the
>band alone. gretchen

	I think that you have to give a band the perogative to expand and
develop over the years.  Sure, _Disintegration_ and _Wish_ are different than
_Boys Don't Cry_, _The Top_, and _Japanese Whispers_.  Wouldn't it get a little
boring if the cure had spent the last decade coming out with clones of there
early work?  Give them a break.
	
	Take _Wish_ as a piece of work by itself, not as a sequal to any of 
their early stuff.

Rob  
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