HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hurtta@cs.Helsinki.FI (Kari E. Hurtta)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: gcc compiler bug involving <linux/ctype.h>?
Date: 26 Aug 92 11:18:05 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Helsinki, Finland

In article <1992Aug26.020845.15618@watson.ibm.com> derek@watson.ibm.com (Derek Lieber) wrote:
>    printf("%d\n",  toupper('x') == toupper('y'));
> The problem seems to be due to the toupper macro defined in <linux/ctype.h>.
> The macro looks fine to me, but changing it from...
> 
> #define toupper(c)          (_ctmp=c,islower(_ctmp)?_ctmp-('a'-'A'):_ctmp)

So printf is expanded to:
printf("%d\n",  
	(_ctmp='x',islower(_ctmp)?_ctmp-('a'-'A'):_ctmp)
	==
	(_ctmp='y',islower(_ctmp)?_ctmp-('a'-'A'):_ctmp)
	);

There is two assigment to _ctmp in same expression and there _isn't_
any sequence point what apply ('==' isn't sequence point).

So it can be executed in follow order:
	_ctmp='x'
	_ctmp='y'
	islower(_ctmp)?_ctmp-('a'-'A'):_ctmp
	islower(_ctmp)?_ctmp-('a'-'A'):_ctmp

Notice that sequrce point (',') after _ctmp='x' didn't apply because
assigment _ctmp='y' isn't argument of that operation (','). 

So error is in macro.
(Maybe I don't say it clearly ... :-))


- K E H
( Kari.Hurtta@Helsinki.FI,
  hurtta@cc.Helsinki.FI,
  hurtta@cs.Helsinki.FI,
  HURTTA@FINUH.BITNET
)
From: lynch@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Tom Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: SLS: don't laugh now but...
Date: 27 Aug 92 05:40:52 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin
In-reply-to: pmacdona@sanjuan's message of 26 Aug 92 03:40:05 GMT


>From: pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald)
>although it is not clear that everyone will want to spend the 
>~$400.00 (??) or so buy a player and the CD.  Maybe though.

I do I do, imagine most of the hardisk just for user data!
wow.. 

Programs that should be on a CD distribution IMHO :-)

system:
 linux
 usual bin utils
 man pages
 X windows and some contrib stuff

programming:
 gcc g++ ld, etc.
 gdb
 libraries
 emacs
 make

document:
 tex, latex fonts etc.
 ghostview
 ghostscript, and fonts etc.
 dvips
 xdvi

drawing:
 gnuplot
 xfig
 transfig
 idraw (yes both, the world is split over this, lets just put both)
 
Communication:
 ftp
 slip
 kermit
 rlogin
 
I must be missing a bunch of things.  Is there already a distribution
wish list available?  Perhaps others could add to this.

This stuff would be nice to have in a big tar file, or two.  Then one
could just insert the tape and install everything.  Or even put the
tar file in the tmp (overnight download) partition and untar it into
another partition.  No floppies.

Gee, come to think of it, is there such a tar file available?

-tom
lynch@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Kevin W. Hammond <hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com>
Subject: Unable to mount msdos partition
Reply-To: hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 02:13:45 GMT

I have compiled mount from the tsx-11 mount-src.tar.Z file, including a patch
that was sent to me by some one on the net (I forgot who ... sorry :-(

I can mount/umount minix file systems and the /etc/fstab stuff is working,
but for the life of me, I cannot mount a DOS partition or floppy.  I am
using the following command:

	mount -t msdos /dev/hda1 /mnt

/dev/hda1 is my C: drive for DOS.  The message I get back from mount is:

	magic match failed
	/dev/hda1 already mounted or /mnt busy

Well, I know /dev/hda1 is not already mounted and /mnt has nothing on it.
What I am missing here??

-kwh-
-- 
Kevin W. Hammond
hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com

  CASE Engineering * 575 W. Madison #1601 * Chicago, IL 60661 * (312)902-2161
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: aboyd@quantum.on.ca (Andrew Boyd)
Subject: Re: Ethernet drivers 
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 12:55:40 GMT
Organization: Quantum Software Systems

In article <715399538snx@crynwr.com> nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson) 
writes:
>In article <GNAT.92Sep1191408@kauri.kauri.vuw.ac.nz> gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz 
>writes:
>   In article <#xdngk+@quantum.on.ca> aboyd@quantum.on.ca (Andrew Boyd):
>   > Actually, the 503 is very similar to the wd (now smc) 8003 series of
>   > cards - both use the 8390 NIC.  If you folks already have a driver for 
>   > the 8003, you won't find it too big a job to support the 503 - just 
>   > different locate and init code.  The runtime code is identical.
>
>Well, that was WRONG.  First of all, WD has their own silicon, which
>has different bugs than the National silicon.  

um, it's not *that* different.  And until recently, WD cards were shipped
with nat semi 8390's installed.  Check _your_ board - unless it's pretty 
new, it won't have a WD83C690 installed.

>Plus, the 3c503 when I/O mapped has a 16 byte FIFO that you need to 
>ensure is filled.

I didn't say anything about I/O mapped mode - excuse me for forgetting
to mention memory mapped mode, in which case you can use the same runtime 
code for the 503 & the 8003.

>Plus, the wd8013e has a 16-bit interface that decodes its address
>early and so needs to be read/written to with interrupts off.

um, I was only talking about the 8003 (8-bit) NOT the 8013 (16-bit) card.  
Reread my posting.

Excuse me for making the mistake of trying to help - I won't do it again.

----
#include <std.disclaimer>
From: lankeste@fwi.uva.nl (Branko Lankester)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: ps for 0.97-pl2
Date: 26 Aug 92 00:41:03 GMT
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam


I have uploaded ps for Linux 0.97 with patch 2 to nic.funet.fi and
tsx-11.mit.edu.  You can compile it with gcc 2.2.2d and, with a few
hacks, probably also with older compilers.

I just discovered a small problem if you use gcc 2.2.2d, the
-I/usr/src/linux/include is still needed for "free" (for
kernel/blk_drv/blk.h), so you'll have to add this to CFLAGS.

Branko
From: baron@clifton.hobby.nl (Wim `Blue Baron' van Dorst)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: Polling keyboard in linux. What works best?
Organization: Minix Hobbynet Host
Date: Wed,  2 Sep 1992 22:12:55 MDT

> In article <17nf23INNfr8@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>, kxb@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Karl Buck) writes:
> I want to check the keyboard for input (using gcc of course) without
> actually reading (ie: getc etc..). The unix FAQ suggests looking at
> the FIONREAD ioctl or using select() and the C FAQ states that this is
> a purely OS dependant question.
> 
> What is best for Linux? Can this be non-blocking? A snippet of code
> for this would be great since I have not had to do this kind of thing
> before. Thanks.

jlnance@eos.ncsu.edu (JAMES LEWIS NANCE) writes:
> I was given the following segement of code when I asked this question.  
> [ stuff deleted -b-b- ]
> #include 	<sgtty.h>
> #include	<fcntl.h>
> struct sgttyb normal_mode, cbreak_mode;
> [ stuff deleted -b-b- ]
> 	ioctl(0, TIOCGETP, &normal_mode);
> 	cbreak_mode = normal_mode;
> 	cbreak_mode.sg_flags |= CBREAK;	/* make characters available as typed */
> 	cbreak_mode.sg_flags &= ~ECHO;	/* turn off echo */

Sorry, but that won't work. I currently am working on a little game, and
of course you have to test for key-pressing. I had code like the above working
properly in Minix, but for Linux the implementation is purely Posix, which
the above is not.

I very easily changed my code to Termios (i.e., the Posix and thus Linux
way of doing such things) for the what I wanted, using indeed the non-blocked 
read(). A very simple example is this:

#include <sys/types.h>
#include <termios.h>
#include <fcntl.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <stdio.h>

main()
{
	int ch = 'a', counter;
	struct termios *tp;

	tcgetattr(0, tp);
	tp->c_lflag &= ~(ECHO | ICANON);
	tcsetattr(0, TCSANOW, tp);
	fcntl(0, F_SETFL, O_NONBLOCK);

	while (ch != 'q') {
		for (counter=0;counter<100000;counter++) /* */ ;
		if (read(0, &ch, 1) == -1)
			printf("Non-blocked ch=%c\n", (char) ch);
		else 
			printf("Typed ch=%c\n", (char) ch);
	}
		
	tp->c_lflag |= (ECHO | ICANON);
	tcsetattr(0, TCSANOW, tp);
	fcntl(0, F_SETFL, O_ACCMODE);
}

Of course this code actually _reads_ the character: It is not a test 
whether a character is available. Using code like this, however, such an
implementation could easily be made using a buffer for actually read
characters, and passing them on only when wanted. 

Met vriendelijke groeten, Wim `Blue Baron' van Dorst
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: dminer@mcs213e.cs.umr.edu (Dan Miner)
Subject: Re: DISASTER AT MIT!!!!!
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 00:30:14 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

In article <180toaINNnaa@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis) writes:
>
>
>Someone seriously need to do some housekeeping in the LINUX directories
>on TSX-11.MIT.EDU. It's a wreck.
>
>Anyone up to it???????
>
	I would love to do that.  But I don't have access to the system so
that is out.. :(  Who is maintaining it now?

Dan
Hackers' Guide Coordinator/(more writing being done)

-- 
 Dan Miner
                           		 email: dminer@cs.umr.edu
Computer Science          
University of Missouri-Rolla             "It all begins with a glimmer."
From: c-amb@math.utah.edu (Mark B. Alston)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: lp1 timeout errors
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:40:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: solitude.C-AMB.92Aug25114045
	<C-AMB.92Aug25101425@solitude.math.utah.edu>
Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Utah

Well, it turns out that the problem in with my printer itself.  If I
had RT(printers)FM first...  The error has something to do with "A
short circuit between the collector and the emitter of a head
transistor with a shorted dot driver winding" once I figure out what
this means I may be able to fix it.  However, I think that the repain
shop might have a better chance.  But, thanks anyway to those who
tried to help.
--
--------------------------------------------------------
  Mark Alston        
  c-amb@math.utah.edu
       
       It is not just a riot of blots and blurs and 
      disjointed jottings linked by spurts of speed...
      it only looks as like it as damn it.
       
                          James Joyce, Finnegans Wake
---------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: stewart@wimsey.bc.ca (Jim Stewart)
Subject: Re: DISASTER AT MIT!!!!!
Organization: Wimsey 
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 05:40:52 GMT

In article <180toaINNnaa@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis) writes:
>
>
>Someone seriously need to do some housekeeping in the LINUX directories
>on TSX-11.MIT.EDU. It's a wreck.
>
>Anyone up to it???????
>
[.sig deleted]

To characterize ted's machine as a disaster smacks of ingratitude to me.
As far as I know tsx-11 is his workstation ... and ted has work to do,
he makes his machine available to the linux-activists to support the
ongoing work ... let's not confuse tsx-11 with simtel :-) 

js
From: fl0p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Frank T Lofaro)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: 0.97p2
Date: 30 Aug 92 10:52:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.0ecFXuq00VpeAT5EgT
	<1992Aug30.162947.3429@wimsey.bc.ca>
Organization: Sophomore, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux: 30-Aug-92 Re: 0.97p2
bhenning@wimsey.bc.ca (Bill Henning) (195)

>If some of the speed problems are due to the page tables being swapped in
>and out it may be worthwhile to allow a compile time option for the >kernal
>to keep page tables locked in memory...

>Bill

	In a multi-user environment, users could (and quite possibly will)
abuse this. A better idea would be to have the sticky bit on a file do
this in addition to its normal effect. This seems like it would also be
easier to implement. (And it wouldn't require yet another complier
release! :).
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: hlu@poly2.eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Subject: Re: Anyone have xdtm running under linux?
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 23:49:26 GMT

In article <92244.151135IO20585@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, IO20585@MAINE.MAINE.EDU writes:
|> Like the subject says, has anyone been able to get xdtm
|> (the desktop manager for X/UNIX) to compile/run under Linux?
|> Thanks in advance for the help.

I ported it SVR3.2.2 with X11R4 long time ago. I think for Linux the change is
minimal if the code supports POSIX. Otherwise, you may use BSD or SYSV. Either
way, you have to play with #include stuffs.

BTW, I deleted it after I installed it since it was too slow on my machine. I
would not use it unless I have at least a 486/33MHZ and 8 MB.

H.J.
From: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: WANT GCC? FORGET FAQ.GCC AND README?? READ THIS FIRST!!!!
Date: 4 Sep 1992 15:40:29 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


>If you have problems, may I suggest that you ask polite questions to the net.
>I'm sure that there are thousands of users who can give you answer.
>And I think people like H.J., Linus and Ted are always willing to help
>you, if you ask politely. We all need help.


ok.....maybe I did get a little bent out of shape.....but I apologized.
Everyone has responded to this post.

BUT NOONE HAS EVEN READ "apologies but i still neeed help"

In it, you will see that I did EVERYTHING the faqs, readmes, release
notes said and I still can't get it to work.

>be discouraged by a few unthankful individuals.

I am very thankful........But if there really is a problem, lets' find
it.

-- 
MaThiEu a. LeWis      "There is no middle ground/Or that's how it seems/For 
Thieves Like Us        us to walk or to take/Instead we tumble down/Either
mal11@po.cwru.edu      side left or right/To love or to hate."
					-A Strange Kind of Love
From: zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: mcc-interim0.97p2: getwd problem?!
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:29:39 GMT
Organization: Computing Centre, University of Manchester

In article <1992Aug31.054425.2144@athena.mit.edu> wet!LOGIN@well.sf.ca.us writes:
>I am having some problem with mcc-interim0.97p2.
>
>I managed to install the package. But I always get the error message
>"getwd: operation not permitted" when running "make" or "bash" and some
>other utilities as a non-root user.

The earliest utilities disks (-UK and -US) distributed with this version
had an entry './' in one of the tar files that changed the permissions
on the root directory.  This is now fixed, but you may still have an
older utilities disk.  Login as root and type

     chmod 555 /

Then login as something else, and see if your problem persists.

     -- Owen
     LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard)
Subject: Re: Linux support BBS- what happened?
Keywords: Linux, BBS, dial-up, broke
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:38:48 GMT

In article <1992Aug24.134925.9967@crd.ge.com> davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen) writes:
>  If you have a decent modem, just lock the serial line between the
>computer and modem at fixed speed, say 9600 for dumb serial, 19.2k for
>16550, and enable hardware handshaking. I run my modems this way, but I
>don't have the Linux stuff availbale yet, so I won't bother to post the
>number yet.

I just have 2400 baud modems until I have a chance to earn some
money.

-- 
>>Unix/C Contract worker available 5 years C/unix work experience<<  ______
Available for Telecommuting/Travel and contracts on the T Line       \    /
in the Boston MA area. Send me e-mail for a copy of my Resume.        \  /
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: wet!LOGIN@well.sf.ca.us
Subject: mcc-interim0.97p2: getwd problem?!
Reply-To: wet!LOGIN@well.sf.ca.us
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 05:44:25 GMT

Hi,

I am having some problem with mcc-interim0.97p2.

I managed to install the package. But I always get the error message
"getwd: operation not permitted" when running "make" or "bash" and some
other utilities as a non-root user.

Is there a problem here?

Please help!

Thanks in advance.

dh

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Kevin W. Hammond <hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com>
Subject: Re: STACKER
Reply-To: hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 23:11:18 GMT

You could mount a DOS partition that is a STACKER drive, but all you would
get would be Stacker's hidden files that it creates when you initialize a
partition (or drive) with Stacker.

From your question, you probably want access to the Stacker volume and all
the files contained therein.  The answer is no.  Unless someone writes a
DOS emulator and you can run normal messy-dos in it (and also Stacker), you
won't be able to access the volume.

-kwh-
-- 
Kevin W. Hammond
hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com

  CASE Engineering * 575 W. Madison #1601 * Chicago, IL 60661 * (312)902-2161
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Kevin W. Hammond <hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com>
Subject: symlinks in 0.97pl2
Reply-To: hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 02:00:59 GMT

I just read a message where an individual has a symlink to a file such as:

	slink -> executable

and the permissions on executable were 511 (r-x--x--x).  When attempting to
execute slink, the shell would respond with:

	slink: Operation not permitted

When the permissions on executable where changed to 555 (r-xr-xr-x), executing
slink worked fine.

Two things: first, I can confirm this behavior.  My 0.97pl2 does the exact same
think.  Second, I do not ever recall seeing a Unix system with regualr executables
with execute only permission (I take that back, I have seen a couple...but not with
symlinks to them!)  I'll try this on my SunOS system at work tomorrow and see what
happens.

-kwh-
-- 
Kevin W. Hammond
hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com

  CASE Engineering * 575 W. Madison #1601 * Chicago, IL 60661 * (312)902-2161
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: stewart@wimsey.bc.ca (Jim Stewart)
Subject: Re: How do you install programs?
Organization: Wimsey 
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 03:53:50 GMT

In article <QecDEIS00WAJEDSlB4@andrew.cmu.edu> geek+@CMU.EDU (Brian E. Gallew) writes:
>Rafal writes:
>>PS2: Install mtools as soon as possible. ;)
>Since linux now supports the dos fs, what *possible* use is mtools?
>
Linux 0.97.1 mounts my dos filesystem on /dev/hda1 fine. I can get directory
listings and can copy FROM the dos filesystem fine.  When I copy TO the 
dos filesystem,  the cp (from root0.97.1) grinds away then comes back and
tells me that the device is full... when I have to reboot dos (a more and
more infrequent event) I get to CHKDSK /F a bunch, and chkdsk reports that 
every cluster I had left in the dos partition is "lost" ... I don't know if
this is cp or the filesystem code, and I have not yet tried it under 0.97.2
(my current system) but I think I will keep mtools around for a while :-)

js       who_is_a_belt_and_suspenders_kind_of_guy_anyway


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Ching-Hsiang Chen <chchen@stat.fsu.edu>
Subject: p2c success!
Reply-To: chchen@stat.fsu.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:45:45 GMT

The compilation of p2c in Linux is right out the the box. The examples
included in p2c run just fine.

Steve Chen               chchen@stat.fsu.edu
From: callison@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (James P. Callison)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Malformed libc.a?
Date: 4 Sep 92 00:40:44 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

(By God, this system is starting to piss me off! It's been a damned week since
I've been able to post! BTW-the Registry is out; I uploaded it to tsx-11 since
my host is so thoroughly fornicating vertically wrt my posts... Grr...)

I'm having a hell of a time getting the stuff (other than the uucp stuff)
to compile. Using GCC 2.2.2d (installed as per the instructions, with the
fix (and without; it didn't make a dman bit of difference) posted to
tsx-11), I get a smooth compilation up to a point, and I run into:

ld: malformed input file (not rel or archive) /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux
/2.2.2d/shared/libc.a(__shared.o)

What in the name of God does this mean?! I tried re-downloading the relevant
files and re-installing them, but to no avail. I tried installing the
fix (2.2.2dfix.tar.Z from tsx-11), but _that_ didn't help. I didn't see
anything in any of the documentation about this problem; and before you ask,
yes, I installed it as per the instructions.

I can compile the kernel with no problems whatsoever, but it seems like
everything else I've tried with GCC 2.2.2d has come up with this same damned
frustrating result!

Can someone please help me?

				James

James P. Callison       Microcomputer Coordinator        OU Law Library 
Callison@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu   /\    Callison@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu
	constellation!biglaw!callison@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu
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From: jhelberg@nl.oracle.com (Joost Helberg)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: problems with 0.97pl2 and tcpip
Date: 25 Aug 92 20:04:26 GMT
Organization: Oracle Europe
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.


I have 0.97pl2 up and running and tried to add tcpip0.8 into it.

the patch worked allright, compiled good too but:
  when loading the image i get unresolveds:
  	_outb_p
	_inb_p
	_outb
severals hundreds! from net/net.o. 

As the only code from net using outb/inb etc. is we.c It must come from there.

we.c includes asm/io.h, so I don't know why this goes wrong?



I don't understand
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From: philip@think.com (Philip Mucci)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Linux VESA local bus compatablitly question?
Date: 26 Aug 1992 17:40:03 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: lugh.think.com


	Hi all,

	I want to buy a 486 with the VESA standard local bus architecture.
This means that the 80x86 chip is on the motherboard, not on the local bus
cards. My question is, if I go this route with an S3 local bus video card
and an IDE - 32-bit local bus disk controller, will I be able to run Linux?
(That reads: without a year of hacking)

	Thanks,

	-Phil

P.s. I read the FAQ and it didn't mention anything about the VESA local bus
architecture or the S3 video accelerator chip.

P.p.s. Will I really need 150Megs of disk space to get X running?