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From: cal@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Cal Lott)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
Subject: Parasound Gear reply
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:36:32 GMT
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
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Bob:

	My reply to your mail message bounced, so I am posting the reply
publicly. Perhaps this will be of interest to others, as well.

					-Cal

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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 11:24:47 CST
From: "Cal Lott" <cal>
Subject: Re:  Source for Parasound Gear

>Cal,
>
>I would like to know where you purchased your Parasound gear at
>a discount.  
>
>Thanks,
>
>Bob

	Do you live in the Chicago area, Bob? If not, this info may not
be very useful to you. Anyway, the shop is called Hi Fi Hutch, and it
is located at 879 South Rosell in Schaumburg. 

	The owner's name is Ray, and he's a super-nice guy. They plan
on moving their main store out to Palatine soon, and changing their
name. Ray bought about 60 pieces of Parasound stuff to stock up the new
store, and got a discounted price from the distributor. He passed these
savings on to his customers, and they bought the stuff like mad. He had
about ten pieces left last weekend, and they were going quickly.

	I don't know if he plans to buy more stuff in quantity or not--
you'll just have to see for yourself!

	I don't remember the phone number, and I don't have it here at
work. If you are still interested, drop me a line and I can get you that
number, and the number of the Chicago-area rep for Parasound, who can
give you a store close to where you live. (I have the numbers written
down in a notebook at home.) Finally, if you don't live in Chicago, but
are still interested in Parasound, I also have the company's phone
number at home. You can call them and they will be happy to get you in
touch with a dealer.

	I'm really happy with the Parasound stuff. I can unhesitatingly
recommend it to anybody who is interested in high-quality, low-cost
seperates.

						Regards,

						-Cal

----- End of forwarded text -----

	If anybody else is interested in these numbers, I would be happy
to honor their request, as well.

						-Cal

						-Cal
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From: Andy Kurtz <ak35+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.audio.high-end
Subject: rice paper record sleeves
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:37:49 -0500 (EST)
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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Cc: 
Originator: tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu


Today I bought a Record Doctor cleaner from Audio Advisor (mailorder). 
While on the phone, the salesperson suggested that I replace all of my
paper and plastic record sleeves with rice-paper sleeves, saying that
paper and plastic retain dirt in a way that rice paper does not (just
how he did not explain).  At 3.90/10-pack, it would be fairly expensive
for me to do this -- money I'd rather use buying records.  What do y'all
think of this?

andy 

Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: janik@gfx.engga.uwo.ca (Janik Joire)
Subject: Re: Sony D-35 Problem
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:47:03 GMT

In article 46860, Jet-Sun Lin writes:

>I have a Sony D-35 Discman that has worked fine for a year or so.
>Then, during the last year or so, it stopped playing while it was flat.
>
>I found that if I elevated it to about 30 or 40 degrees, that it would play
>normally again.  I think the problem is that it can't spin the disk
>fast enough when it's flat.
>
>Anyone else have these problems (two friends of mine at school do)?
>
>What can I do about it?

I had the exact same problem with my Sony D-35 portable CD player!
Quite strange, really... My dealer replaced the unit with a new one
that failed 3 months later (just as the first one did). After the
third unit failed, I got a full refund. One of my friends had the
exact same problem with his D-35 (?)

All this leads me to believe that this model was a seriously 
flawed design... The other odd thing about my second D-35 was that
it sounded different! I mean, if you are used to a particular CD
and portable CD player / headphones combination, you may notice
some differences when changing the unit, but not when changing to
another one of the same model (?)

Now don't get me wrong... I have some other Sony equipment with
which I am very satisfied! But you may want to get a full refund
for your D-35.

On the same subject, I am looking for a Sony D-303 portable CD
player for the digital optical output feature (some may still be
left in stock at some dealers). Most of the reviews I have read
agree on the good quality of that unit (sound and construction).
Has anybody out there experienced problems with the D-303? Do
any other units have a digital optical output? Any comments /
advice are welcome.

				Janik
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From: "herb chong" <herb.chong@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: nakamichi 700
Date: 10 Jan 93 01:17:20 EST
Reply-To: "herb chong" <herb.chong@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

KJ>Last time I was in the cassette market, Harmon-Kardon and Tandberg wer
KJ>following Nakamichi's lead on equalization, so those brands may be
KJ>worthwhile for Herb to investigate.

that's because Nakimichi OEM'd the Harmon-Kardon and Tandberg decks. openn 
one up and you will find Nakimichi parts all over the place.

Herb...

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Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: chris@adx.adelphi.edu (Chris Chen)
Subject: FAQ
Organization: Adelphi University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:43:54 GMT

Hi there:
	Could someone please e-mail me the FAQ of this group. Or tell
where I can ftp it. Thanks.

-- Chris

Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Stereo Review's critical judgement
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 01:27:05 GMT

In article <C0CEJH.82o@CAM.ORG> pascal@CAM.ORG (Pascal Gosselin) writes:
>palane@iastate.edu (Paul A. Lane) writes:
>>Stereo Review believes there are no audible differences between competently
>>built preamps, amplifiers, CD players, and cables (plus most tweaks). I would
>>be shocked if they ever claimed to here any differences among these compo-
>>nents.
>
>Finally someone that understands what digital audio is all about.
>
>You see, CD is very simple. 16bit audio samples (linear) played back
>at 44.1Khz. Now, each 16bit value corresponds to a particular voltage
>level, which makes the sound we hear.  As long as the D/A converter is
>linear, the sound will be essentially perfect.

Sounds good to me--I don't suppose you have the number handy of a source
for those perfectly linear D/A converters?  If they've got distortion-free
op-amps with infinite slew rates and no offset voltage, noise-free 
resistors that exactly match their marked value, and entire runs of
perfectly matched transistors, I'll take some of those too.

Oh, yeah; before I forget, check to see if they have perfectly 
phase-coherent analog anti-aliasing filters. 

>If anyone has scientific blind tests proving otherwise, please post them,
>I'm very curious.

Well, this isn't exactly scientific, but I did do a single-blind test
years ago when I picked up a Magnavox CDB-650 to replace an early-80's
Sony CD player.  (My brother had copies of the same CDs that I did,
which made AB and ABX testing much easier.)  I didn't have the most 
impressive stereo around back then, but I recall getting somewhere in
the neighborhood of a 100% score in being able to guess which was which.

Trygve 
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Maximum Interconnect Cable Lengths?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 01:34:47 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.231607.15420@odin.corp.sgi.com> adamg@lemming.csd.sgi.com (Adam Ginsberg) writes:
>I'd like to hook up 2 receivers to each other so they
>can both play from the same source (in different rooms)
>I'd like to run the tape-out from receiver 1 to the 
>aux-in on receiver 2.  Is there a maximum "safe" length
>for the wire?  
>
>I tried this a couple of years back with 25 foot cables
>and that worked ok, but what is the danger of making these
>cables a bit longer (like 50 feet)?

I've had no problems running shielded cables over 100 feet
for relatively non-demanding applications.  (Any signal
path that contains a receiver probably counts as non-
demanding.) 

One thing to be careful of, though, is ground loops which are
easy to create by doing this and will cause buzzing or humming
sounds from the speakers of both stereos, generally even if 
the distant source is not the one selected at the time.
(Eliminating ground loops is a large subject at beyond the 
scope of this message.)

Trygve 
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: cal@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Cal Lott)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Pre-amp
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:18:49 GMT

"Eugene M. Feinberg" <ef23+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:


>I'm looking for a simple, and inexpensive preamp.  I am looking for 
>basically a volume knob and input switcher.  I'm sorry if this board
>is not for want/for sale, but I have never ventured into the realm of
>audio.  Thanks.

	Gene, if you want serious advice, you should name a price range.
There are many "audiophile" preamps that do just what you mentioned
above, but they cost a few thousand dollars.

	You should also mention whether or not you need a phono stage,
or would be content with a straight line-level preamp.

						-Cal
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From: jcm11@po.CWRU.Edu (John C. Mackey)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Sony STR-790 *problems*
Date: 4 Jan 1993 07:44:18 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: jcm11@po.CWRU.Edu (John C. Mackey)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, hm002b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (PRIMUS SUCKS!) says:

>In article <1i0g77INN771@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ch218@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Erik A. Horn) writes:
>>
>>Don't buy Sony.  Their entire STR line seems to have 
>>problems.  I ran the one I had into the ground and now
>>have to buy a new reciever. If you can, I would take it
>>back.  The problem with mine though, was in the heat
>>sink I believe, due to the massive heat it produced,
>>and it constantly shorted out.  Good luck with yours
>>though.
> 
>I have owned my Sony STR-D1090 for over 3 months now and have not had one
>single problem, I love it!
>

Ditto here!  I've had my STR-D1090 for almost 2 months and I'm still 
thrilled with it.  Mine gets pretty toasty, I admit.  It's never shorted out
on me, though, and I run it pretty hard.  For $530, it's got a phenomenal
number of features that I just love, and the digitally processed surround
sound is great...  I think I'm going to just buy a small power supply fan
to put on top of it.  (Just to be safe.)
-John
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From: henrik@itekiris.kjemi.unit.no (Henrik Gudbrandsen)
Subject: Re: Soundstream's Tweeters -ha!
Organization: SINTEF
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 10:24:30 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.070857.2225@nwnexus.WA.COM> amigo@halcyon.com (Scott Rowin) writes:
>Subject: Soundstream's Tweeters -ha!

... Lots of stuff about a tweeter deleted

>

Very interesting, sharing experience about speaker drivers is a great idea!

When I started to read news a few months ago I hoped to find a newsgroup 
discussing loadspeaker building (discussing drivers, projects, theory, 
software etc).  This is the only group with some (very few) postings on this 
subject I have found.  Or am I wrong ?

So put out more postings on this subject folks!

Building loudspeakers is fun ! :-)  :-)

Henrik Gudbrandsen
henrik@itekiris.kjemi.unit.no
From: co940@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Nicholas E. Damato)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Where can I get Stereophile?
Date: 5 Jan 1993 20:39:42 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Hello audiophile,
     I have seen stereophile mag. at a few good newstands,
not many carry it, you have to calll around usually in rich
suburbs.
 
Or you can send $35 for one year to:
Stereophile  
208 Delgado 
Santa Fe, N.M.
87501
 
Good luck!
ned.
From: marc@es.ele.tue.nl (Marc Heijligers)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: DCC and MD bugs
Date: 11 Jan 93 12:20:25 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, Eindhoven, The Netherlands.


Hi,

After seeing some MD bugs on rec.audio I'm also interested whether people
found some bugs or other annoying things with DCC(!)/DAT/CD players. 

For example I once heard about a CD player, which after reading the index of a
particular Mozart CD, went into a frozen state. The only possibility to make
the CD-player work again was to unplug the AC outlet for a while. This bug
could easily be reconstructed. 

Marc
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: marks@keinstr.uucp (Mike Marks)
Subject: Re: Wireless Speakers
Keywords: Invra-Red Speker connection
Organization: Keithley Instruments, Cleveland, Ohio
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:31:58 GMT


lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell) writes:

>In article <1992Dec30.174531.3232@ennews.eas.asu.edu> berry@enuxha.eas.asu.edu >(Joel R. Berry) writes:
>>Hello all,
>>    I am sorry if this is the wrong group to post this, but it seemed
>>to be right.  I am looking for a device that will allow a speaker to
>>exist where there are no wires strung.  I want to have some type
>>of transmitter on the tuner and have a receiver by the speaker.  I was
>>wondering if anybody has any knowledge of devices such as this.  I
>>have no information at all so any suggestions would be welcome.  

>   There's a company called Datawave that has a small FM transmitter
>   and speakers with FM receivers.  The speakers either look like
>   small cheap Fm radios or rocks.  

>   If you want stereo, you'll need TWO transmitters (their adverts
>   in audio mags tend to gloss over this).  

>   Sound quality for the Datawaves can best be described charitably
>   as "cheapo fm portable" or worse.

Despite my advice, my dad actually ordered a pair of these things.
"cheapo fm portable" would be a charitable description of them.  They
seem to pick up hash from fluorescent lights & dimmer switches as
well as the intended music.  Also, he has heard the AT&T cordless phone
over them, so they will come in handy as my sister approaches her
teenage years :-).  They are light & portable, but they only have one 3
inch driver in them, & the cases are of cheap plastic.  I recommend
staying away from them unless you want a quick & easy way to eavesdrop
on a cordless phone or tell if fluorescent lights anywhere in the
house are on   :-)  :-)
_______________________________
Mike Marks
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: adamg@lemming.csd.sgi.com (Adam Ginsberg)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Maximum Interconnect Cable Lengths?
Date: 4 Jan 93 23:16:07 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

I'd like to hook up 2 receivers to each other so they
can both play from the same source (in different rooms)
I'd like to run the tape-out from receiver 1 to the 
aux-in on receiver 2.  Is there a maximum "safe" length
for the wire?  

I tried this a couple of years back with 25 foot cables
and that worked ok, but what is the danger of making these
cables a bit longer (like 50 feet)?

thanks

adam
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Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: dbarker@spang.Camosun.BC.CA (Deryk Barker)
Subject: Re: Stereo Review's critical judgement
Organization: Camosun College, Victoria B.C, Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:59:45 GMT

pascal@CAM.ORG (Pascal Gosselin) writes:
: palane@iastate.edu (Paul A. Lane) writes:
: >Stereo Review believes there are no audible differences between competently
: >built preamps, amplifiers, CD players, and cables (plus most tweaks). I would
: >be shocked if they ever claimed to here any differences among these compo-
: >nents.
: 
: Finally someone that understands what digital audio is all about.
: 
: You see, CD is very simple. 16bit audio samples (linear) played back
: at 44.1Khz. Now, each 16bit value corresponds to a particular voltage
: level, which makes the sound we hear.  As long as the D/A converter is
: linear, the sound will be essentially perfect.
: 
: As for those of you buying $1000+ CD players, I'm afraid you are getting
: taken for a big, expensive ride.

Ah well, it takes all sorts.

As many people have pointed out it ain't quite that simple. For anyone
who doesn't have a two-box player, then the CD player requires to
produce analog output.

Meridian in England first started to build CD players after they -
merely out of interest - bought a Philips 1st generation player and
took it apart to look at it. As Bob Stuart said at the time "we found
some state of the art digital circuitry and some of the worst analog
circuitry we'd ever seen'.

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From: rmp@crashnburn.Eng.Sun.COM (Richard Pottorff)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: buying a CD player
Date: 5 Jan 1993 19:43:20 GMT
Organization: Sun
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: crashnburn

In article <BzsIpM.DGz@news.cso.uiuc.edu> pms26964@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Phil Scopes) writes:
I am in the process of buying a CD player, and I am definitely going to get a 
five-disc carrousel changer.  What I am wondering is whether there are really
differences in sound quality between players.  I went to United Audio today
and listened in headphones to two Denon units--one was $279 and one was $449.
I noticed no difference in sound quality, but the salesman claims that there
is better sound on the higher-priced model.  I wonder whether he is just
trying to sell a more expensive model or if I am just not hearing the
difference.  I know that I have good hearing, which is why I want CDs rather
than cassettes in the first place.  I just am not sure whether this salesman
was honest when he said there was a difference.  Any comments?


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* University of Illinois
* Champaign/Urbana

I respond:

I am not a true audiophile, tho most of my friends would call me one.
Anyway, welcome to the world of psycho-acoustics, where if it costs more, 
it has to sound better. (NOT!)

Your absolute hearing ability will not, repeat, will not improve. However,
your skill at using your ability may improve, if you pay attention to
details in music, etc.  At this point in your listening skills development,
you can't hear any difference, thus the cheaper CD changer is good enough
for you, now. Later, after enough experience, you may, and may not be able
to tell the difference. I'd go with the cheaper player, but it is your 
decision, not mine, and not the salesdroid's.

Good listening,

Rick


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From: kirk@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kirk Lindstrom)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:04:03 GMT
Subject: Re: How can different digital cables sound different?
Organization: Shredding the water of SF Bay, HP-OCD
From: philip@think.com (Philip Mucci)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Those b*s*a*ds in the white van - I hope they got them.
Date: 11 Jan 1993 23:46:25 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: marley.think.com

	I got taken quite a number a years ago by the very same people.
They told be at the time that they were BOSE studio speakers being
delivered to a record co. in the area. I was skeptical at the time - so
for a test I said ("You realize I am spending my tuition money...if these
are worthless I can't go to school in the fall.") These SOBs took my money
anyways and stuck me with garbage. I hope this company, and all the people
who work for them rot in prison forever. Then again, some liberal judge
will probably let them off, so they can keep selling they crap. They've
been doing this for over TEN YEARS NOW! 

	-P.m.


Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: eomiya@borland.com (Elliot Omiya)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Indoor FM antenna advice
Originator: eomiya@genghis.borland.com
Organization: Borland International, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:37:17 GMT

I have the Parsec and it is much better than the dipole, although it's not
nearly as good as I expected.  I'm going to stick a real antenna on the
roof with a remote rotator.  Your cable company sometimess compresses a bunch of
FM signals and feeds it through the TV cable although the quality is really
variable depending on how much your local cable company cares about audio
(which usually isn't much).  

The more you learn about antennas the more you realize that the indoor
antennas are no substitute for the real thing.

-=<EHO>=-

Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: palane@iastate.edu (Paul A. Lane)
Subject: Re: Stereo Review's critical judgement
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 06:03:31 GMT

In <1993Jan1.015237.447@leland.Stanford.EDU> paulxxxx@leland.Stanford.EDU (paulastya gupta) writes:

>Recently I was skipping across an old evaluation of the Pioneer Elite
>CD player (at least several months old), and in the end, the reviewer
>failed to find any sound difference justifying its higher price.  It 
>sounded "at least as good as" the other <lower priced> players reviewed.
>I see this to indicate one of two things:
>1) they're absolutely right
>2) their emphasis on sound quality is slighted by the more serious audiophile 
>   magazines.

Stereo Review believes there are no audible differences between competently
built preamps, amplifiers, CD players, and cables (plus most tweaks). I would
be shocked if they ever claimed to here any differences among these compo-
nents.

I would be interesting in seeing a challenge done between an early 14-bit
Magnavox or Sony unit and the latest systems (say a Pioneer Elite or top
JVC CD player). 

If I ever get to the point of spending some serious money on a system, I
plan to set up a comparison between a top of the line system and a cheap
receiver/CD player combination. It should be interesting.

Paul


From: kirk@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kirk Lindstrom)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:34:32 GMT
Subject: Re: CD anti-skip buffer (Was: Re: Stereo Review's critical judgement)
Organization: Shredding the water of SF Bay, HP-OCD