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From: jgaukel <judy@nepac.ucsd.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: I need to buy a cockatoo sized cage for my office
Date: 27 Jan 1993 17:14:00 GMT
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Re: Birdies at Woirk (was: Re: I need to buy a ...)

I brought 'tiel Blondie to work when my apartment was being painted.  She
was my
official bodyguard all day, not content to be in her cage nor to be
anywhere I wasn't,
letting everyone on the entire floor know about it.
Good entertainment, thankfully for one day only.
From: bgt@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (barbara.tongue)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: Birdie Hazzards
Date: 27 Jan 93 12:58:34 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1993Jan27.124533.13962@tadtec.uucp> Diana Bray <djb@tadtec.co.uk> writes:
->My birdie hazzard was a prickly pair (opuntia?) catci.

i once read a book about cacti (the mother tongue and i raised quite
a lot of 'em ) called "The Punctured Thumb - a guide to cactus."  When
describing prickly pear (also know as "bunny ears"), one of the warnings
read "do not name your bunny ears a cute and fuzzy name because your 
children will want to cuddle that cactus with such an adorable name.
call it "killer" instead and tell your kids "killer gets hungry..."

->[...]
->Ella slept the rest of the day, and then was completely fine - no
->chewing, no swelling.  She was fine.  I wasn't!  While frantically
->getting the spines out of Ella, I'd just let them fall on me where they
->landed.  I ended up with sores and a fever - but then I'm allergic to the
->spines:)

when angus (yellow collared macaw) grabbed darry on saturday, one of them
(darry was still capable of biting with the other side of his beak) 
took a nip out of my finger, which
started to bleed.  funny thing, i saw it happen, but didn't feel a thing! -
i was so frantic about darry.  and at the vet's, i was idly chewing on
a flap of skin next to my fingernail, and realized how it had appeared.

when your birdies are in danger, i figure a 'toon safe could fall on you
and you just won't noice....
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From: jtidwell@athena.mit.edu (Jenifer P. Tidwell)
Subject: Re: Tough choices
Keywords: angus
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:04:34 GMT

Barbara,

I can sympathize.  Charlie, my Hahn's macaw, harbors a deep hatred for
my fiance, and just a couple of weekends ago, gave him a chomp on the
hand that Rich won't forget (or forgive) for a long time.  So far,
Charlie's been more-or-less OK with strangers -- he will bite, but
only if said stranger pushes his/her luck by wanting to pet him on the
head or something -- but I doubt he'll ever like Rich.

But we've come to some sort of truce.  Charlie is My Birdie.  Charlie
knows it, Rich knows it, my family knows it.  So Rich doesn't bother
Charlie when he doesn't feel like getting bitten, and things are fine;
I can still play with Charlie quite happily while Rich is around.  

My point?  If you love Angus, and if Angus gives you lots of love and
happiness even when "competition" is around, keep him!  Other people
can avoid him if they wish... it doesn't seem to prevent Rich from
enjoying his time at my house.  Obviously, I don't know your S.O., so
I can't speak for him, but that's the way it's worked out for us.

(Side note:  Rich would also feel really guilty if his presence caused
me to give up Charlie.  Not good for anyone.)

Good luck!

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From: demetri@cgrg.ohio-state.edu 
Subject: 'Tiel Eggs
Organization: OSU Advanced Computing Center for the Arts and Design
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 02:03:01 GMT

Just thought I'd give y'all an update on our situation.  We are the ones
with the "chauvanistic male cockatiel" who did not help with the nesting.
Only one of the four eggs was fertile.  Ricky eventually did decide to help
out but he was a real spaz about it.  When Boyd was on the eggs I could
peek into the box to check on her.  Ricky would jump out of the box when I
even entered the room.  He toussled around in the box a lot and as a result
all of the eggs were broken.  We tried taking him out of the cage, because
in addition to his marauding he was hacking at Boyd when she tried to leave
the box.  He was away from her for a day and she never came out to eat or
drink (didn't even eat the food I put in the box for her).  So I put Ricky
back in the cage with her, they are back to taking turns, and there are 3
intact fertile eggs.  I hope this means they've finally figured it out!

                          Renee
From: mikula@ugcs.caltech.edu (Alf Mikula)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: "Hey, where's my food?" Converting 'tiel to pellets
Date: 27 Jan 1993 07:41:35 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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I've also been trying to convert my lutino to pellets.  I'm using Lafeber's,
and I've been giving her a mix for a little over a week now.  The mix is
currently more than half pellets (I'd guess about 60-70%), and equal portions
of seed and Grape Nuts.  She'll eat the Grape Nuts, but I rarely catch her
trying a pellet.  The concentration of pellets is increasing daily.  She eats
the seed as soon as she gets a fresh batch (every morning) and picks around
the pellets as though they were styrofoam peanuts.

On second thought, I'm sure she'd gladly switch to a styrofoam peanut diet...

Eventually she gets hungry and eats the Grape Nuts, and some of the crunching
I hear isn't loud enough to be Grape Nuts, so I presume she's trying pellets
too.

The hope is that she'll be half-converted to Grape Nuts by the time that
concentration gets low, so the pellets will seem less alien as ``food.''

-Alf Mikula
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From: bgt@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (barbara.tongue)
Subject: Tough choices
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 19:39:54 GMT
Keywords: angus

folks,

for once, a serious post on my part.  as you know, angus, the yellow-
collared macaw of mine, adores me and tries to dismantle anything else 
which is breathing.  i won't go into any details here, but he caused some
rather intense damage today on another beastie, and it brought some
things to me attention *real* quick.

if i was a hermit or single, angus and i could live an idylic life,
not worrying about his Consume The World attitude.  alas, since i will
be engaged soon, i have to consider my SO, and some years in the future,
my family.

thus, to put it briefly and to the point, i might give angus to the
folks who board him (a momNpop petStore in which, for some odd reason,
angus absolutely loved both the woman and her two kids.  he becomes the
store mascot for the time i'm away on business, and really seems to
enjoy "ruling the roost", so to say.

of course, relinquishing ownership is something i don't want to do,
period.  said folks at pet store already inquired once about "getting
a bird like him," so i'd be assured that his life would be just as
full.  and once i had arrived early to see how they treated angus
without me, and he was hanging from the woman's hair and flapping
happily.  'matter of fact, he didn't want to leave her shoulder.

so what is the point.

damned if i know.

anyway, human ego that i have, it would be so romantic to believe that
angus would pine away without me, but honestly i just don't think that
would happen.  ain't ego great.  so it really really really hurts.

the only thing i can do is be responsible to both angus, my SO,
myself, and my family.  having a viable option, amazingly, makes it even
more difficult (you know, you can say, i'd give him up but i don't know
of a place worthy of him.  well, dammit, i do.  so much for rationali-
zing...).

so i'll keep y'all posted.
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From: wiegand@rtsg.mot.com (Robert Wiegand)
Subject: Re: Newspaper vs. Cypress Mulch for cage bottom??
Reply-To: motcid!wiegand@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:48:32 GMT

mnoeske@SU12K.Harris-ATD.com (Mike Noeske x4143) writes:

>Does anybody have any reason why one shouldn't use cypress or
>cedar mulch for the bottom of a large bird cage?
> I have been using mulch on the bottoms of the cages for
>my large birds for years and i think it has its advantages
>over newpaper.

[...]

The main problem I can think of is the possibility of bugs or germs
in the wood.

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From: bavenell@next.com (Bette Avenell)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Growling Grey
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:23:50 GMT

Merlin has been very quiet since I've had him (three weeks), only whistling and  
making a sound like a goose when I leave the room.  I'd heard about the  
growling they do, but he only growls very softly when he doesn't want to be  
picked up.

Yesterday I took him to the vet (avian) for the first time, and while he was  
still in his carrier he saw a large dog.  All of a sudden there was this noise  
that sounded like a really loud buzz-saw!  I jumped and for a minute couldn't  
figure out where the noise was coming from!  I heard it again and it was  
Merlin, who was all puffed up glaring at the dog.  Is this what everyone means  
when they talk about Greys growling?  Or did he just learn to make that noise  
somewhere?

Bette Avenell
bavenell@next.com
From: ares@fnalo.fnal.gov
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: What do your birdies give you?
Date: 28 Jan 93 04:32:13 -0600
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
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In article <1993Jan27.214234.14885@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>, bgt@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (barbara.tongue) writes:
> folks,
> 
> so there i was, describing my current birdie situation with
> one of my co-workers, who basically asked, just what do birdies
> *really* give you?  it stopped me cold.  i mean, how can you explain
> in 3 minutes or less how much joy one's birdies gives you?
> 
> so how would you answer that question?
> -- 

. An animal I can appropriately call "Pipsqueak". (And nickname "Squeakling",
  "Beakling", "Pigling"... they have very messy table manners - though I
  hasten to add that none of mine have ever actually stepped ONTO my plate.)

. A larger budget for tissue paper, not to mention a considerably longer
  housecleaning time allotment to track down all those crusty white spots
  that manage to end up in all sorts of places.  (Books gather MORE than dust
  in my bookshelves!)

. Did I mention "Squeakling"?  A creature that can squeal nonstop for fifteen
  minutes and will only pause if I scream "Shut Up!" at the top of my voice,
  and then for only five seconds.  In the middle of the night.

Most of my birds arrived as eggs, and I helped some out of their shells.
And in the case of my male sparrows (now you know why they squeal so much),
I also spent some weeks afterwards caring for them around the clock.  It
makes for a very tight bond, raising a bird from egg to stealth fighter-
bomber.  I guess I feel a sense of accomplishment, as well as a sense of
ongoing responsibility.  You cant take birds for granted like you can cats
or dogs.
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From: joanm@moe.coe.uga.edu (Joan Maxfield UCNS)
Subject: Finches anyone?
Organization: College of Education, University of Georgia
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:20:22 GMT

Hi all,

I've been reading for a few months and have enjoyed all the fun birdie
stories.  I however, have finches.  Not nearly as exciting as a big
bird, but I love them all the same.  My pair, the Peabodys, are
currently sitting on 4 eggs.  This is the second time they've set but
the last clutch was either infertile or got cold.  I've got my fingers
crossed this time.  Does anyone else reading this group have smaller
birds?  

Joan

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From: au500@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Linda Zinn)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: Cooking for the bird?
Date: 28 Jan 1993 21:11:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: au500@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Linda Zinn)
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In a previous article, mikula@ugcs.caltech.edu (Alf Mikula) says:

>mwish@risky.Convergent.COM (Marilyn Wisher) writes:
>
>>New ways to take a bath:  Instead of a rubber duckie for company, throw
>>in your freshly made breakfast - a whole, baby carrott just nuked in
>>the micro in peach juice.
>I like to cook...are there any good recipes out there for cockatiels?
>Other parrots?  Maybe something you cook a batch of and can serve to
>your bird for a week or so, and the bird really likes it?
>
>Or are the culinary arts completely wasted on birds?

My yn Amazon Zack, a picky eater if ever there was one, goes
wild over plain cooked oatmeal. He laps it up like a puppy laps
its favorite food, smacking his "lips," making happy sounds. I give it
to him just slightly warm, with no salt or sugar or butter or milk
added, and I use the old-fashioned kind....no additives at all.
He also loves refried beans. Both those foods should be nutritious,
and both should keep for a few days in the refrigerator. I just
give these in small quantities (maybe 2 tablespoons of oatmeal, 1 of
the beans) as a special treat, in addition to his regular food.
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From: bgt@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (barbara.tongue)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: Birdie Hazards
Date: 27 Jan 93 11:33:32 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1k4ebiINNg5c@network.ucsd.edu> jgaukel <judy@nepac.ucsd.edu> writes:
->Birdie Hazards
->
->Yes, I would like to add, hanging lamps!??    Ok, the real question: 
->does anybody
->ELSE'S bird run into hanging lamps?  

the mother tongue's african grey bartina eats them...

->Stoves, definitely.  How do you cooks keep your bird away from the
->cooking area?

you know how the kitchen is the most dangerous place for birdies?
well, bartina lives in the kitchen, atop the curtain rod.  granted,
mom also built her a next (a box with a telephone book and a mirror
in it), where she resides at odd times.  she's lived there now for
20 or so years, and sedately walks to the kitchen counter to sample
some ripening tomatoes as it pleases her.  and when bath time
calls, why she graciously deigns to use her water tub, allowing
either the mother tongue or myself scant time to move the chairs
and tables to the other side of the room...

that birdie is contrary to everything one reads about african greys...

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From: mikula@ugcs.caltech.edu (Alf Mikula)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: Birdie Hazards
Date: 27 Jan 1993 12:16:39 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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Keywords: potential dangers

rjg@umnstat.stat.umn.edu (Robert J. Granvin) writes:

>7.) Hats.  (Local phenomenon only, I guess... My bird panics when someone
>wears headgear... Can seriously injure herself if confined in a cage).

Mine has the same reaction to hats.  Perhaps this is common 'tiel behavior?
Anyone?


10.) Naughty children.  Several years ago (6 or 7, I think), I found the family
cockatiel with an odd bald spot on her head.  She wasn't bleeding or anything,
but the entire plume was gone...Anyway, investigation revealed that my little
brother was playing with a ``sticky whip'' that was made out of that stuff that
is sort of slimy and sticks to things (oh, don't give me that.  You all know
what I'm talking about), and thought it would be amusing to hit the bird with
it.


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-Alf Mikula
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From: au500@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Linda Zinn)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: Birdies at Woirk (was: Re: I need to buy a ...)
Date: 27 Jan 1993 13:53:04 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: au500@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Linda Zinn)
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In a previous article, bgt@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (barbara.tongue) says:

>In article <1k40mvINNe7p@intercon.intercon.com> rsteel@intercon.com (Rob Steel) writes:
>->Hi everyone,
>->
>->I have changed jobs and will now be bringing my little umbie, Toots, to work
>->with me.
>

Zack, my yn Amazon, is great at giving my office that...well, jungle
atmosphere. This is particularly helpful when I'm interviewing
a Mayo Clinic brain surgeon over the phone (no kidding). Almost
every interview I've taped has at least one, "Oh, that's just
my bird" line in it. Zack is undaunted by being covered, and closing
the door to my office only signals him to turn up the volume a bit.

I'll never forget the day a doc returned my call for an interview
and caught me off guard. I answered the phone in the living room and
had to go pick it up in my office, leaving the first phone off the hook.
First, Zack started squawking, in the living room, of course, and as loudly
as he possibly could, of course. Then Meis
the Wonder Cat knocked a plant and it's nice, heavy restaurant-china
plate underliner into the sink, shattering it into a zillion pieces
(again, in close range of the phone). That day it was, "Oh, sorry,
just my bird and my cat."

Zack is a faithful assistant. He can be completely mute all day long,
but as soon as he hears me on the phone, he's right there to lend
me a hand (beak). Ever vigilant, that's my Zacker! 

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From: rnewlund@vitalink.com (Robin newlund)
Subject: Re: Tough choices
Keywords: angus
Reply-To: rnewlund@vitalink.com (Robin newlund)
Organization: Vitalink
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:55:04 GMT

Dear Barbara - 
I too sympathize with you and your tough choice. I agree with the
previous person saying try for a truce. Maybe you are still too upset
about the "accident" to make a cool headed choice. I have a large
parrot and a little parakeet and I know that for as long as I have
them that it will be one bird in, one bird out, keeping them apart
for their own good. It's worth it and I'd hate for you to have to
part with Angus, you notes show how much you love him and how
much he adds to your life. Try some compromises first before you
go to the last resort. Good Luck

Robin Newlund
rnewlund@vitalink.com
From: bgt@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (barbara.tongue)
Subject: Columbia, SC?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:10:32 GMT
Keywords: birdie stores?

folks,

business travel might have me in columbia, sc, sometime in the
figure.  are there any good birdie stores there?

thanx in advance,
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From: kieran@cmatter.physics.indiana.edu (Kieran Mullen (kieran@cmatter.physics.indiana.edu))
Subject: What plants are safe for birds?
Originator: kieran@cmatter.physics.indiana.edu
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:08:47 GMT

    Does anyone have a list of common house plants on which birds may safely
chew?  And a list of those that are dangerous?  Our jenday conure liked the
ficus benjamin tree at my parents house, and wanted to nimble on its leaves,
as well as the bark.  I was concerned it might hurt him.

    I know I could just plant cabbage and kale for the bird to eat, but I
am interested in knowing which plants are (a) attractive house plants and
(2) are not bad for the bird.

           Thanks!

                   Kieran Mullen
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From: chuq@Apple.COM (Crow's Friend Timmy)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: Strange Male Canary Behavior
Date: 21 Jan 93 05:57:43 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Next Thursday A.D.

brasher@aludra.usc.edu (Brenda Brasher) writes:

>Is Bernie's altered state normal, or should I head
>for the vet?

No, it's not, and yes, you should. Birds generally don't have major changes
in behavior unless there's something going on, and it's very possible he's
got a low-grade infection that's causing him to go into minimal-movement
mode. It needs to be looked at.

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From: eabyrnes@vela.acs.oakland.edu (eabyrnes)
Subject: Cockatiel Clutch
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:15:45 GMT

Hi Everyone,

  I wrote a week ago asking about going to school on the weekends to feed
the parent cockatiels. Thanks for all the advice. I went in both days and
gave the parents all kinds of fresh foods; squeezed milk bread, moistened
ground monkey biscuits, thawed frozen corn, smashed hard boiled eggs, and
their regular food. All five chicks are doing very well, both parents are
doing a great job.

New Questions: My wife and I want to hand-feed the babies, we have some
experience hand-feeding an amazon and a grey. What is the best range of
ages to start this? Some people have said three weeks feeding every four hours.
How long can you wait and still have a happy human-loving bird. We were
going to use Exact for baby birds, anything better? I can't believe how
fast these little feather-balls are growing, the oldest is already showing
the grey feather stubs.

Thanks very much.

Ed 
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