HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 8 Oct 1992 13:03:53 CDT
From: <U16244@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.comics.lnh,rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: LNH: The coming of a hero
 <92281.182025LUCKE@NDSUVM1.BITNET>

Cannon Fodder walked away dazedly from his meeting with Cheezar and Makkaroni.
He was quite befuddled.  They were letting anyone into this damn universe these
days.  He sauntered towards the netnews gate, seeing it crackle to life,
with an energy, a power unlike any he'd ever known before.  And he smelled a
smell.  The smell of tear stained back issues.  What was this?  Who could be
coming through the net?  Suddenly, Cannon Fodder saw them, a swarm of comics
smashing into him, crushing him to a helpless, pasty mulch.

Lost-Cause Boy stepped through the netgate, the energy fading around him as he
looked down at his pile of John Byrne Fantastic Fours piled atop what looked
like two arms and two legs.  Lost-Cause Boy (who in his daily disguise of
Douglas P. Wojtowicz, a regular ditcher of classes at the University of
Illinois at Chicago) gasped as he realized who had had just mashed to a pulp.

"I knew I should have thrown in my Mosaic collection first," he said.

Well, now that Lost Cause Boy had arrived, he bundled up his comics,
wondering what strange new adventures he would encounter, leaping to the
defense of non-vigilante Supermen and battling the horrendous forces of fanboy
dom.

Lost Cause Boy, invented by Douglas P. Wojtowicz.
(Yes, I am the Cloak and Dagger of comics, in real life.  In fact, I have
every appearance of Cloak and Dagger in my collection.  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!)

Newsgroups: alt.comics.lnh,rec.arts.comics,rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics.xbooks
From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: I'M BACK!!!!!(Happy Happy Joy Joy #4)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 20:46:19 GMT

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
o
After 1/2 a week of a screwed up news system, I'm back in the present!!!!
This is wonderful.  You don't realize how much you take a news server for 
granted till it's busted.  But, now I trully can appreciate these wonders
open to me.


A Survey note.  Because the post didn't show up til 2 days after I sent it
I'm extending the deadline til Saturday.  Thanx to all who have answered so far,
And the rest of you get 'em in.

A note of explanation:  R.a.c.split.d would be a group to discuss splitting
	 r.a.c. up more.
R.a.c.elmos.names is a group to discuss the various net aliases that Greg Morrow
 	uses.

Happy happy joy joy posts are like this, they tell about the good things that
happen to me.

Everyone enjoy!


-----SCAVENGER

-- 
KHAN: And I never forget a face.  Mr. Chekov,   |  kogutt@ucsu.colorado.edu
           isn't it?                            |      (Internet/Usenet)
CHEKOV:  But, I wasn't in that episode!!!       | No matter where you go, there
     (from MST3K:The Wrath of Khan)             |    you are."-Buckaroo Banzai 
Xref: sparky alt.comics.lnh:99 rec.arts.comics.misc:4098
From: mkelly@bronte.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Subject: Re: The Official Typo Lad Dictionary!
Reply-To: mkelly@bronte.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:03:07 GMT

 barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
|> This is the official dictionary of how Typo Lad misspells words.  I'd
|> appreciate it if someone could email me and offer to take over this list in
|> the future, since I really don't have the time or space.  BTW, can
|> you name the two words T-Lad has spelled correctly (without MTM's
|> translation device) and where they were found?

	Myk-El sounds the Legion of Net Heroes Alarm! Using his finely honed
Net-intellect, (which almost increases while exposed to radiation from
a color workstation) he deduces that Typo-Lad is in reality a dupe of
the Electric Midgets! Somehow the Midgets (or MIDJITS as they call 
themselves) have managed to overcome Typo-Lad's CAPS Lock! 

(shudder)

Does that mean that CAPS KID is also an electric midget, but one who has a
working spell-checker?! We have been invaded! We have met the enemy and they
ar us! Forget the Continuity Queen, grab some Jell-O, and watch out for
weasels!

-- 
+               Mike Kelly, Notre Dame Department of Physics                +
+                                                                           +
+ mkelly@happy.helios.nd.edu          "The more you drive,                  + 
+ mkelly@undhe5.hep.nd.edu                 the less intelligent you are."   +
Newsgroups: alt.comics.superman,rec.arts.comics.misc
From: tnrogers@mtu.edu (Rogers)
Subject: Bad news from DC
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:30:30 GMT

Newsgroups: alt.comics.superman,rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Superman as Punisher clone?? NOOO!!
Distribution: world
Organization: Michigan Technological University

I read on comics-l of a rumor that DC is planning to bring Supes
back from the dead as a Lobo/Punisher/Wolverine kick-a** type.
I think this would be terrible, IMHO.  I like the character because
he ISN'T like that.  Surely there's a better way to boost sales!
I'm sending a note to dccomics@mcimail.com to protest in advance!

tony rogers

Newsgroups: alt.comics.superman,rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Changes to Superman?
Distribution: world
Organization: Michigan Technological University

Newsgroups: alt.comics.superman,rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Superman as Punisher clone?? NOOO!!
Distribution: world
Organization: Michigan Technological University

I read on comics-l of a rumor that DC is planning to bring Supes
back from the dead as a Lobo/Punisher/Wolverine kick-a** type.
I think this would be terrible, IMHO.  I like the character because
he ISN'T like that.  Surely there's a better way to boost sales!
I'm sending a note to dccomics@mcimail.com to protest in advance!

tony rogers

Newsgroups: alt.comics.superman,rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Tell me it ain't so!
Distribution: world
Organization: Michigan Technological University

Newsgroups: alt.comics.superman,rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Superman as Punisher clone?? NOOO!!
Distribution: world
Organization: Michigan Technological University

I read on comics-l of a rumor that DC is planning to bring Supes
back from the dead as a Lobo/Punisher/Wolverine kick-a** type.
I think this would be terrible, IMHO.  I like the character because
he ISN'T like that.  Surely there's a better way to boost sales!
I'm sending a note to dccomics@mcimail.com to protest in advance!

tony rogers

Newsgroups: alt.comics.superman,rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Changes to Superman?
Distribution: world
Organization: Michigan Technological University

Newsgroups: alt.comics.superman,rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Superman as Punisher clone?? NOOO!!
Distribution: world
Organization: Michigan Technological University

I read on comics-l of a rumor that DC is planning to bring Supes
back from the dead as a Lobo/Punisher/Wolverine kick-a** type.
I think this would be terrible, IMHO.  I like the character because
he ISN'T like that.  Surely there's a better way to boost sales!
I'm sending a note to dccomics@mcimail.com to protest in advance!

tony rogers

Newsgroups: alt.comics.buffalo-roam
From: 003316g@ace.acadiau.ca (STEPHEN EDWARD ELLIOTT GREGORY)
Subject: Re: COMICS
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 02:29:22 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.232021.1@acad3.alaska.edu> fspmc2@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
>From: fspmc2@acad3.alaska.edu
>Subject: COMICS
>Date: 16 Oct 92 07:20:21 GMT
>Hello, 
>	I couldn't help but notice that this news listing featuring
>comics in the title was empty.  It was the only news group I found 
>that had any promise as an interesting comic exchange so here I am.
>Please inform me if there is a better news group with another title.
>So what does everyone think of the new Image comics?
>
>--Matrix Deter
>--FSPMC2@ALASKA.BITNET


	The new Image comics seem pretty cool except I found that many 
chracters were almost identical to verious Marvel comics. Opps got to go, I'
ll finish this later.
From: fspmc2@acad3.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: alt.comics.buffalo-roam
Subject: COMICS
Date: 16 Oct 92 07:20:21 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks

Hello, 
	I couldn't help but notice that this news listing featuring
comics in the title was empty.  It was the only news group I found 
that had any promise as an interesting comic exchange so here I am.
Please inform me if there is a better news group with another title.
So what does everyone think of the new Image comics?

--Matrix Deter
--FSPMC2@ALASKA.BITNET
Newsgroups: alt.industrial,alt.postmodern,alt.cyberpunk,rec.music.industr
From: pbancrof@nyx.cs.du.edu (Phil Bancroft)
Subject: Re: SRL shows?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 02:51:39 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.032143.3172@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dnakamur@nyx.cs.du
edu (Damo Nakamura) writes:
>
>Does anybody have a schedule for SRL shows in the coming months?
>(Sorry if I crossposted to wrong groups: send all replies to
>alt.industrial)
>
>Thanks!
>DAMO JUST DAMO
>


Hey _I_'d also be interested in seeing an SRL show schedule, why don't you
turn that poser Bigod 20: Steelworks album you're previewing and are about
post a long and boring reveiw for and POST A BLOODY SCHEDULE??????

P*H*I*L**B*A*N*C*R*O*F*T
PHIL AS IN KILL
save

Newsgroups: alt.industrial,alt.postmodern,alt.cyberpunk,rec.music.industr
From: dnakamur@nyx.cs.du.edu (Damo Nakamura)
Subject: SRL shows?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 03:21:43 GMT


Does anybody have a schedule for SRL shows in the coming months?
(Sorry if I crossposted to wrong groups: send all replies to
alt.industrial)

Thanks!
DAMO JUST DAMO

Newsgroups: alt.industrial
From: pbancrof@nyx.cs.du.edu (Phil Bancroft)
Subject: Re: Tastes in music
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 20:10:15 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.170510.13668@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> tcschmit@rs6000.
mp.ilstu.edu (Tom Schmitendorf) writes:
>First post.  I am a subscriber to Industrial Nation zine, as well as
>Technology Works.  Anybody else heard of these or others?  I like the ha
e and
>the anger involved in a lot of the music.  Admittedly, sometimes I don't
even
>listen to the lyrics.
>
>To name just a few, I like:  Bigod 20, Controlled Bleeding, FLA, Skinny 
uppy,
>Minister of Noise, NIN, Numb, TKK, Sloppy Wrenchbody, and Vampire Rodent
.
>
>I am very interested in others.  Perhaps someone would be interested in
>trading mix tapes through the mail - samplers, really.
>
>I recently picked up Consumed by The Final Cut, which is really awesome.
 I
>also picked up something by Skrew from Metal Blade records, thinking it 
as
>going to be like earlier ministry, but it was mainly just speed-metalish

>
>Speak to me.


D
oh yeahhhhhhh. man. Let's HaAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaAaaTTTTTTEEEE people!
ohh - that makes cooooooooooooool thrashin'
maybe i'll bring a KNIFE
ooooh tom you're already giving me an orgasm

NOT!!!!!!!

If anybody wants to respond with some taste in non-poser industrial
(i. e. ) see my definition: Def: Real Industrial
please post, or stop wasting bandwidth.

P H I L  B A N C R O F T
p.s. I can't believe you listen to Skinny Puppy.
Somebody warn them....

ALL PHILLER NO KILLER
Newsgroups: alt.industrial,alt.cyberpunk
From: nninja@nyx.cs.du.edu (Net Ninja)
Subject: Mondo 2000
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 03:43:58 GMT


Hey - here's something for industrial/"cyberpunk" culture for you.
Has anybody else heard of this?

-Mondo 2000- is a glossy, futuristic publication out of Berkeley
specializing
in VR, smart drugs, "cyberpunk" literature, new technology, and industrial
music.  Some of it is very serious and very good, some is very funny and
very
good, and some stuff is just ridiculous (i.e. putting penises everywhere.)
This is actually reaching quite a few bookstores where I live!!!  Anyway,
some of the stuff on here really relates to industrial culture even as
Phil would define it: especially Mark Dery's articles (this guy must be
a genius!) and they also have quite the scoop on the Hafler Trio/Clock
DVA/etc.
Euro industrial scene so you guys might check this out. Warning: don't take
it _too_ seriously as it's just entertainment! (this means you Phil)

SO what do _you_ think of M2000?
Net NINja

Newsgroups: alt.industrial
From: nninja@nyx.cs.du.edu (Net Ninja)
Subject: Re: FAQ please
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 06:08:07 GMT

In article <92287.204341CP8219A@auvm.american.edu> Christopher H. Prokop 
CP8219A@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>Basically,
>
>How can I get the FAQ???
>Just found the board and don't want to offend.
>
>                 thanx    chris


As far as I know there is no alt.industrial FAQ.
Net NINja
From: sdt8s@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Steve Tilson)
Newsgroups: alt.industrial
Subject: Re: Newsgroups...
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:14:55 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

ddm@hamby.tx.ncsu.edu  writes:
> Just a suggestion, take the conversation over to rec.music.industrial
> and you'll get a lot more action.  This newsgroup is for the Industrial
> Computing Society and related topics (its ok, i made the mistake too,
> that's what r.m.i was made for)...
> 
> Dave
> 

Yes, just so.  I've found this conversation to be very
stimulating--much more so than anything I've ever read on
r.m.i.  I'd suggest the creation of a new
group--alt.industrial.culturee, perhaps--for the discussion of
industrial politics and society and the cultural aspects
thereof, including but not limited to industrial music,
performance art, etc.

Just Steve rambling.
--
D.A.M.: Mothers Against Dyslexia
Steve Tilson, star of the upcoming film "Goyz 'N' the Hood"
Xref: sparky alt.industrial:266 alt.postmodern:2510
From: zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny)
Newsgroups: alt.industrial,alt.postmodern
Subject: Re: Nova Serial Killer Special Tue Oct 13 1992
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:06:20 GMT
Organization: The Phallogocentric Cabal

In article <1992Oct16.011958.6386@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
pbancrof@nyx.cs.du.edu (Phil Bancroft) writes:

>Did anybody see the special on Nova Tue. night? (Mind of the Serial Killer)

Certainly not.  

>Well it was great but a little commercialized.  I could have used some
>interviews, but at least they showed ample pictures of the victims!!!!!!!

Of course, the truly hip make and take their own.

>The main focii were:
>        1) Characterization of serial killers:
>           They were described as on the surface "functional" - keeping a
>           low profile, doing things for survival mostly.  Most were abused
>           by parents and/or others at an early age.  Otherwise, quite nice
>           and personable people.
>
>        2) Why do serial killers kill: They enjoy the "hunt": i.e. finding
>a
>           "vulnerable" victim.  The actual kill is secondary (although
>           essential to completing the "project").  They work themselves up
>           from small children to adults - each poses a greater challenge
>           and provides a greater thrill.  Also, many murders involve some
>           sort of sexual/ necro gratification.
>
>        3) However, most acts are not "planned" or plotted out, only
>           specific techniques are applied.  Spontenaity is part of the
>           "thrill".

The problem with this sort of characterization is that it is based only on
the loser sample, -- those who were stupid enough to get caught.  By
contrast, most serial killings, as defined by a common _modus operandi_,
simply come to an abrupt end, for reasons known only to the perpetrators.
Along with professional hits, serial murders are the hardest killings for
the police to solve, precisely because the link between the killer and the
victim is so random and tenuous.

>Have you hugged your serial killer today?

What sort of idiot would answer this question?  Consequently, what sort...
oh, never mind.

>P H I L B A N C R O F T
>_&^_&%_&^&%&^_%_&^_&%&^_&%
>
>KILL MOTHER-FUCKING DEPECHE MODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am afraid this kind of thing would not qualify.

cordially,
mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu
"Nous donnons la mort, nous saurons la subir."
Newsgroups: alt.industrial,rec.music.industrial,alt.music.alternative,rec
From: nninja@nyx.cs.du.edu (Net Ninja)
Subject: New Bigod 20 album: Steelworks finally being released
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 06:04:49 GMT


I just got a chance to preview this album and I was quite less than
impressed.  Most of the "good" songs on there, like the Bog, America, etc.
were singles from two to four years ago.  The new stuff seems to have
softened quite a bit, except for _The Big Bang_ which is quite intense yet
quit repetitive.  WHat happened to them!!!! Did they get so far detached
from the Front 242 scene that they proved they didn't really have
intensity?  The album isn't that _bad_, it's just that after four years
you think they could do better.

Just my opinions
Net NINja
(nninja@nyx.cs.du.du + other places)

Newsgroups: alt.industrial
From: pbancrof@nyx.cs.du.edu (Phil Bancroft)
Subject: Re: Now that I think about it
Followup-To: alt.cyberpunk, alt.industrial
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 03:40:05 GMT



I think we need to differentiate between "pop" industrial culture and
that associated with industrial music, Damo.

"Pop" industrial culture including stuff like _Blade Runner_, etc. is
stuff that doesn't really do more than rehash all of the clicheed 
portrayals of corporations that hearken back to even the writings of 
Marx and Dickens.  (albeit in a very effective and chilling way)

The "new" industrial culture, which by necessity has to include 
"that Re: search stuff" you seem to be slagging, and also performance art
like SRL, and orginizations like TOPY, establishes _new_ metaphors for our
industrial condition.  Corporate control is linked with bondage, fascism, 
all that stuff.  Read the "Slug Bait" lyrics I posted again - quite 
different and more "punkish" than any mega-80's movie don't you think!!!!!!
Cuz _real_ industrial stuff is antithetical to what people like.  Only the
enlightened few who truly understand the industrial dilemma will dare to
"get into" stuff like Throbbing Gristle.  Besides, who needs "1999", "20
minutes into the future" anyway. How about RIGHT NOW or IS THAT TOO SCARY??

No flame intended - sorry I'm drinking J O L T MAN!!!!!!!!

My point is is that anything sufficiently "pop" dealing with industrial
themes like corporate control, etc: like "Terminator 2" or it's musical
equivalent Ministry is stemming from an older conceprion of Industrial
Process that is obsolete.  Times have gotten bad enough that true "punk"
approaches still signify the leading edge.

P H I L  B A N C R O F T

JOHN CAGE IS STILL DEAD


Newsgroups: alt.industrial
From: dnakamur@nyx.cs.du.edu (Damo Nakamura)
Subject: Throbbing Gristle Lyrics wanted!!!
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 04:35:24 GMT


Cool! - an industrial music  group exists on the Net!

Nobody posts to it, though...

BTW, does anybody have the lyrics to "Slug Bait" by Throbbing Gristle?
Thanks in adv.
DAMO LA CLAUN
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:43:41 EDT
From: Christopher H. Prokop <CP8219A@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.industrial
Subject: FAQ please

Basically,

How can I get the FAQ???
Just found the board and don't want to offend.

                 thanx    chris
Newsgroups: alt.industrial
From: pbancrof@nyx.cs.du.edu (Phil Bancroft)
Subject: Re: Throbbing Gristle Lyrics wanted!!!
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 05:11:50 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.043524.17710@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dnakamur@nyx.cs.d
.edu (Damo Nakamura) writes:
>
>Cool! - an industrial music  group exists on the Net!
>
>Nobody posts to it, though...
>
>BTW, does anybody have the lyrics to "Slug Bait" by Throbbing Gristle?
>Thanks in adv.
>DAMO LA CLAUN
>


Yeah, sure, here they are.

Slug Bait
by Throbbing Gristle
====================

Slug bait, can't wait
Slug bait, can't wait

I crawl up the grass to your window
Then I open up your room very slow
Slug bait, can't wait

I walk into your bedroom
And I look at you
With your 7-months pregnant womb
Slug bait, can't wait

I get your husband from the bedroom
I cut his balls off with my knife
I make him eat them
In front of his pregnant wife
He chews his balls up
I look at it very slow
Slug bait, can't wait

As he bleeds to death on the floor
I want you to say
"Don't do any more!"
Slug bait, cannot wait!

I look at your big belly stomach
It's only moving a little bit with baby
I use a carving knife on your midsection
I stop and perform and operation
You say "No, no don't do that"
And I can't - I don't give up
Slug bait, can't wait

I pull out your baby
I tear it out of your belly
I rip it clean
As you bleed to death I kill it
I'm just a wicked boy
Slug bait, can't wait
Slug bait, can't wait
Slug bait, can't wait

YOUR WELCUM.................
P H I L  B A N C R O F T
Structral Analysis Is my Life

Newsgroups: alt.industrial
From: pbancrof@nyx.cs.du.edu (Phil Bancroft)
Subject: Re: Industrial music, hey!
Followup-To: alt.cyberpunk, alt.industrial
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 19:58:41 GMT


Alright, alright, alright, maybe I was too harsh its just I think Ministry
and NIN , and Nitzer Ebb as long as we're at it cater to a much more
commercial sphere of "fuckheads" - (a NE term, don't blame me!) who
just wanna thrash and thrash , and wear black t-shirts who don't really
care about the issues or the fact coprorations are taking over.  All these
songs, like "N.W.O", man - Don Was has done a better (more provocative)
job.

So maybe new Ministry is cool to thrash to.

I call those who just thrash bloody "poseurs" that is my definition
So it is.

Ay, furthermore. AL FUCKING JOURGENSEN CALLED THE FIRST TWO MINISTRY ALBUMS
"JUST CRAP TO PLEASE THE RECORD COMPANIES" IN MANYT RECENT INTERVIEWS SO
I FEEL JUSTIFIED IN BEING HARSH IN EXPOSING THEIR LAST ALBUM AS POSEUR
SHITE.
NEXT WHEN AL IS DOING SOUTHERN_FRIED ROCK HE'LL BE CALLING LORAH SHITE.

Don't take Ministry, any Ministry seriously, man. Al will just come back
and
LAUGH UP YOUR ASS!

So I repeat. Anybody into any _real industrial_
Def: _Real Industrial_
Hafler Trio
Throbbing Gristle
Skinny Puppy
Cabaret Voltaire
Meat Beat Manifesto
NON
SPK
Laibach
Einstuerzende Neubaten
Crash Worship
Foetus
Coil

please post, make life more interesting

P H I L  B A N C R O F T

JOHN CAGE IS STILL DEAD
HE HEARD THE NEW MINISTRY ALBUM

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