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Newsgroups: vmsnet.uucp
Subject: Re: UUNET Download (How?)
From: mark@infocomm.com
Date: 22 Jul 92 11:39:31 PDT
Distribution: na
Organization: INFO COMM - Computer Consulting, Redwood City, Ca

In article <1992Jul22.085056.727@sjh.org>, vaughan@sjh.org (Tom Vaughan) writes:
> In article <1992Jul20.212229.589@cmkrnl.com>, jeh@cmkrnl.com writes:
>> In article <1992Jul20.085359.50@taney.uscghq.uscg.mil>, roseberry@taney.uscghq.uscg.mil writes:
>>> 
>>> 	Where is 2.0 located on uunet assuming you have finished the upload ?
>> 
>> Yes, it is finished! 
>> 
>> It is in ~/systems/vms/uucp.  Fetch the file aaareadme.txt and read it to get
>> instructions on the rest of it.  e.g., on a VMS machine running DECUS uucp
>> *prior to 2.0*, start with
>> 
>> 	$ uucp "uunet!~/systems/vms/uucp/aaareadme.txt" aaareadme.txt
>> 
> -- 
> Okay, now what does it take to connect to uunet to down load these things?
> I thought an account with them was needed.

DECUS uucp ships with an example SYSTEMS file entry defined for uunet's
anonymouns uucp account, which is dialed through their 900 number.  Since 
it's a 900 number, you pay about $.50/min (maybe it's $.40/min) for connect
time and you don't need an account with them.  Depending on what parts of 
the DECUS uucp you want/need, this may or may not be an economical choice.

In case you've blown away the the SYSTEMS entry for uunet's anonymous 
account, the following is how it generally should look:

#
#       Anonymous Access to UUNET's Source Archives
#
uunet   uunet           -               g x7            Any,5   \
                ACU     19200   19004687727 UNIX uucp

The modem pool that they used to have was both PEP and V.32 capable (i.e.
T2500's), and since you are paying for connect time, a faster modem link 
saves $$$$.

--
Mark Pizzolato - INFO COMM Computer Consulting, Redwood City, Ca
PHONE:	(415)369-9366	UUCP:  decwrl!infopiz!mark or uunet!lupine!infopiz!mark
DOMAIN:	mark@infocomm.com
Newsgroups: vmsnet.uucp
Subject: Re: NEWS / DECUS UUCP Integration
From: fenner@jazz.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Date: 25 Jul 92 21:51:24 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Penn State University Mechanical Engineering

In article <1992Jul24.130543.597@cmkrnl.com> jeh@cmkrnl.com writes:
|In article <1992Jul24.110458.4548@ecl.psu.edu>, fenner@jazz.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:
|> I was quite surprised when UUCP claimed that it wanted to move
|> my news_manager directory, or things wouldn't work correctly.  In fact,
|> when I told GENERATE_CONFIG not to move the news directory, it refused to
|> create a new CONTROL. file.
|
|if these are separate disks, and
|if news_manager is on the uucp disk, you can get into a deadlock situation re.
|disk space.  If news_manager is on the news disk, you can't.  Details are in
|the documentation.  Do you have a compelling reason for needing it set up the
|old way?

I have been tuning our NEWS setup for the past year.  We do NEWS adds
distributed over several nodes.  We have a BITNET feed as well as a couple
of NNTP feeds.  Moving news_manager to the news disk would basically
only mean that we'd have less space for articles, and move a bunch of
traffic that used to be distributed across 2 disks.  NNTP spools our
incoming batches into NEWS_MANAGER:, and my distribution command procedure
checks free space on NEWS_DEVICE: and delays processing until the NEWS SKIM
job frees up sufficient space.

Further, my news_manager isn't on the uucp disk, so why is it worried about
this at all?

I agree that your way is correct for the majority of sites, and I'd like to
make it clear that I don't think that the decision was made arbitrarily, or
for poor reasons.  However, I think it should be possible to have a choice.

|> Please, folks, for the next release, try to consider the person who wants
|> his NEWS seperate from his UUCP.  
|
|And what about the person who wants his NEWS combined with his uucp? 

Give a choice.  I don't mind modifying NEWS_RNEWS.COM to allow for my
environment.  I _do_ mind the tools that try to force me into a setup
that I don't want.

I'm not all talk; I modified NEWS_RNEWS.COM to optionally just copy the
received batch into NEWS_MANAGER:, naming it like an incoming NNTP batch,
where my normal processing will pick it up.  It's not finished yet (it doesn't
do sufficient error checking), but it's integrable into the release (my
code is conditional on the logical NEWS_JUST_SPOOL).

  Bill
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From: doug@owl.isis.org (Douglas W Murray)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
Subject: GCC v 2 compiler, where do I get it?
Keywords: GCC 2.2.2
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 03:09:24 GMT
Organization: Quoi! me organized?

Hi all,

Could anyone tell me where I could FTP the newest version of the GCC 
compiler (version 2.2.2 I believe)?

Info would be appreciated,

Doug!
From: rharwood@east.pima.edu
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
Subject: Re: VAX/VMS BBS Software?
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:00:26 GMT

Sorry for the repost here, but my previous post got Terribly Mangled!

I've inherited a MicroVAX II, and when the project I'm working on is over, I'll
have a spare phone line on which I'd like to install and publicly-available
bulletin board system.  I'd like the users to be "captive accounts" with VERY
limted access to VMS... you know, like a real "PC-based BBS".

I remember seeing one on DECUS tapes many years ago, but haven't been able to
find it in any archives that I've accessed.

Is anyone using a VAX-based BBS they really like?  Can you point me to
source/executables?

Thanks!
Ray
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Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
From: moeller@gwdgv1.gwdg.de
Subject: Re: Callable backup docmentation/examples needed...
Reply-To: moeller@gwdgv1.gwdg.de
Organization: GWDG Goettingen, F.R.Germany
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 11:21:19 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.153842.4374@dmc.com>, munroe@dmc.com (Dick Munroe) writes:
>This is going to sound REALLY braindead, so my apologies ahead of
>time.  I'm looking for the callable backup documentation and I
>can't find it.  It's not in my v5.0 grey wall and my cd doc set
>doesn't have it [...]

No surprise - "Callable BACKUP" doesn't exist in VMS (yet).
Did you confuse that with "callable MAIL" 
(which does exist since 5.0, but was documented some versions later)?

Wolfgang J. Moeller, GWDG, D-3400 Goettingen, F.R.Germany | Disclaimer ...
PSI%(0262)45050352008::MOELLER      Phone: +49 551 201516 | No claim intended!
Internet: moeller@gwdgv1.dnet.gwdg.de   | This space intentionally left blank.
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From: nreadwin@micrognosis.co.uk (Neil Readwin)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc,comp.os.vms
Subject: Wierd effect with COPY/DIFF
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:44:34 GMT
Organization: Micrognosis, London, UK.

I did the following to a file (it was either an object library or an
shareable image and I cannot remember which):

	COPY foo.bar []
	DIFF foo.bar

DIFF told me that the files were different (I think it was a single 
block in a 30000 block file). I am at a loss to explain how this could
happen. Any suggestions?

BTW, this is a disk on which we run DISKEEPER and DISKEEPER keeps taking
ACCVIOs :-) when it goes near some files (like this one) that have 10 or 20
extension headers. ANAL/DISK shows no problems apart from the usual
collection of lost files and files marked for delete.

Finally, what is the use of the IDENT area in the extension header?
Does it matter that the name in the extension header is different to
that in the primary header? TIA, Neil.

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Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
From: ORAKEL@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Framstag)
Subject: Re: question: how to run posix shells at the $
Organization: University of Ulm, Germany
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:55:05 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

In <1992Jul29.125503.202149@uctvax.uct.ac.za> bbbbre01@uctvax.uct.ac.za writes:

> There was a posting a short while back on how to run the 'vi'
> editor from the $ prompt using POSIX.  I've lost the posting
> and in my blunderings only get "error parsing ...".
> Could someone please mail me how to run POSIX commands at the 
> DCL prompt (vi in particular)
>

$ posix posix$bin:vi. login.com


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From: goathunter@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
Subject: Re: GCC v 2 compiler, where do I get it?
Date: 28 Jul 92 07:34:46 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <DyVJoB1w164w@owl.isis.org>, doug@owl.isis.org (Douglas W Murray) writes:
> Hi all,
> 
> Could anyone tell me where I could FTP the newest version of the GCC 
> compiler (version 2.2.2 I believe)?
> 
It can be ftp'ed from mango.rsmas.miami.edu.  GCC v2 is now
VMSINSTALlable!

Hunter
------
Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University
goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET, 502-745-5251
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
Subject: need info on TCPIP programs
From: lunazzi@boifcc.cineca.it (Mauro Andrea Cremonini)
Date: 22 Jul 92 09:53:20 +0100

Please, I would like to know whether tcpip programs exist for the VMS
VAX at some FTP site. I need a program which can TELNET, FTP and 
possibly read the NEWS.

Thank you very much.
Mauro


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|Dept. Organic Chemistry            |  ///\\\
|University, Bologna, ITALY         |  \\\///
|e-mail lunazzi@boifcc.cineca.it    |   \\//
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From: masmummy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (William Brennessel)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
Subject: Re: How to determin a rightsidentifier in FORTRAN?
Date: 29 Jul 92 05:21:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul28.231632.16827@wega.rz.uni-ulm.de>, ORAKEL@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Framstag) writes...
>I want to check in a FORTRAN program the existens of a VMS rights
>identifier, which are listed as "Process rights" in SHOW PROCESS/PRIV.
> 
>A simple example would be fine ... or a hint where to look in which fine
>manual :-)
> 
>thanx - Ulli

Since this is not the first time someone has asked, I will post a FORTRAN
function that performs this operation.

The following is a logical function that will return true if a user
possesses a specific rights identifier.

As far as I know these item codes are not in the manual...

Thanks,
Bill

-------------------------------------CUT HERE-----------------------------------

* This function returns true if a person has the identifier passed in
* set in his/her process rightslist.

      logical *4 function id_set (ident)
      implicit none

* Parameter lsize set to 512 will allow for the first 256 (approximately)
* identifiers of a process.  Should a user have more than 256 identifiers
* set, then this number should be increased.

      parameter lsize = 512
      character *(*) ident
      character *31 name
      integer *4 status,rights_size,rights_len,sys$getjpi,i,context
      integer *4 rights(lsize),name_dsc(2)/31,0/,sys$idtoasc,length
      structure /item_list_3/
        union
          map
            integer *2 buf_len,it_code
            integer *4 buf_adr,ret_len
          end map
          map
            integer *4 end,%fill
          end map
        end union
      end structure
      record /item_list_3/ list(2)

      list(1).buf_len = 16
* Parameter JPI$_RIGHTS_SIZE (value 817) is not currently in FORSYSDEF.TLB.
      list(1).it_code = 817
      list(1).buf_adr = %loc(rights_size)
      list(1).ret_len = 0
      list(2).end = 0
      status = sys$getjpi(,,,list,,,)
      if (.not.status) call lib$signal(%val(status))

      list(1).buf_len = rights_size
* Parameter JPI$_PROCESS_RIGHTS (value 814) is not currently in FORSYSDEF.TLB.
      list(1).it_code = 814
      list(1).buf_adr = %loc(rights)
      list(1).ret_len = %loc(rights_len)
      list(2).end = 0
      status = sys$getjpi(,,,list,,,)
      if (.not.status) call lib$signal(%val(status))

      name_dsc(2) = %loc(name)
      id_set = .false.
      context = 0

      do i = 1,lsize
        status = sys$idtoasc(%val(rights(i)),length,name_dsc,,,context)
        if (name.eq.ident) id_set = .true.
      enddo

      end

-----------------------------------END OF CUT-----------------------------------
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From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc,comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: How to resize an Rdb Database
Date: 26 Jul 92 09:15:14 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB

Terry Poot (tp@mccall.com) writes:
>I have an Rdb database that has grown too large. The data in it has been
>trimmed down, but I need to shrink the actual files. I don't need explicit
>directions, just for someone to point me in the proper direction. Things
>I've thought off are:
>
>1) backup/restore. Does this resize the files?

Don't remember offhand, but I don't think so.

>2) Import/export. Sounds like a slow process.

Well, you have a large file with a lot of holes in which you want to
remove. Does that sound like a fast process to you. IMPORT/EXPORT
is the standard method to handle this problem, as far as I know.

>3) rmu/copy. Does this resize the files? Can I copy one area at a time so
>that I don't need as much free space at once? Can it be done while the
>database is in use?

I don't think you can expect to resize the files with users in the
database. I don't think RMU/COPY does much resizing anyway.

>3) Create new areas and use change storage map to move the data,
>then delete the old files. Same questions as above.

Yes, this would probably work, but that is not what you have storage
areas for. I don't recall offhand if you have to do an IMPORT/EXPORT
here or not, but in any case, this is a more complex operation so guess
which one which take the longest time. This could be an option, however, 
if your database is huge and only one storage area is in need of compression.
  By the way, don't just delete the files, drop the storage areas first,
unless you want a corrupt data base.

-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
Dabras Laiks!
From: bbbbre01@uctvax.uct.ac.za
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
Subject: question: how to run posix shells at the $
Date: 29 Jul 92 12:55:03 +0200
Organization: University of Cape Town

There was a posting a short while back on how to run the 'vi'
editor from the $ prompt using POSIX.  I've lost the posting
and in my blunderings only get "error parsing ...".
Could someone please mail me how to run POSIX commands at the 
DCL prompt (vi in particular)

thank you

Brendan

Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
From: ORAKEL@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Framstag)
Subject: How to determin a rightsidentifier in FORTRAN?
Organization: University of Ulm, Germany
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 23:16:32 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

I want to check in a FORTRAN program the existens of a VMS rights
identifier, which are listed as "Process rights" in SHOW PROCESS/PRIV.

A simple example would be fine ... or a hint where to look in which fine
manual :-)

thanx - Ulli


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Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
From: ORAKEL@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Framstag)
Subject: Re: FTP Sites for VAX/VMS Software please!
Organization: University of Ulm, Germany
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 10:52:41 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

In <1992Jul23.151003.202096@uctvax.uct.ac.za> wtrkei01@uctvax.uct.ac.za writes:

> Could somebody please let me know if there are any (and if so, they're 
> names/addresses, please!) anonymous FTP sites for VAX/VMS public domain
> software

look at  info.rz.uni-ulm.de in pub/VMS/ftp-sites
there you can find the names and the directory-contens of the most VMS
ftp-sites. Updated every sunday.


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Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
Subject: Help needed with CONEX
From: a_millsbs@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:45:50 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University


Has anyone out there used the PD terminal program CONEX?

I am trying to get some ket redefinition done with this and I just cant seem to
get it right.  The english docs are REAL sparse and I dont know german so I am
just muddling through.

ANY help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

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From: wtrkei01@uctvax.uct.ac.za
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
Subject: FTP Sites for VAX/VMS Software please!
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:10:03 +0200
Organization: University of Cape Town

Hi there.

Could somebody please let me know if there are any (and if so, they're 
names/addresses, please!) anonymous FTP sites for VAX/VMS public domain
software

Thanks

Cheers,
   Keith

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From: vaxtosv@rks.se (Tom Svaleklev, RKS)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
Subject: DECterm information
Date: 31 Jul 92 09:12:07 GMT
Organization: RKS Vaxjo, Sweden

Hello there !

I tried comp.windows.x to get an answer to my question without any luck
so I thought I'd post it here instead.
What I'm actually looking for is the name of the 'action-procedure'
DECterm uses to paste the text that's currently in the clipboard buffer.
This so I can bind that action to a key as well in DECterm's resource file.

However, I'm really keen on getting hold on ANY information concerning
DECterms configurable resources.

				Thanks a lot !
							Tom
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Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc,comp.sys.vms
From: oddjob@oz.plymouth.edu (Andrew C. Stoffel)
Subject: All-in-1 question....
Reply-To: oddjob@oz.plymouth.edu (Andrew C. Stoffel)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 16:53:42 GMT

[Is there a specific newsgroup/mailing list for people hacking
All-in-1 ? ]

I've been trying to modify several All-in-1 forms to add things I
think will be useful but there are some things I can't figure out.

HOW does form SM$MUA work ? I want to add two fields to it (no problem
adding them...) and have them display information from the currently
selected user profile. 

Specifically.... when someone (meaning me in this case) uses SEL to
select a new account to do something to I want PROFIL_QUOTA &
PROFIL_DOCCOUNT for that new account to show up in fields below the
field showing the selected user. The only success I've had is in
putting the current user's (the person running All-in-1) quota and
current document count into my fields.

ANd looking at the named data for this form doesn't help me. What I
would like to use is:

		/GET=QUOTA,PROFIL.QUOTA:U[$SM_ACCOUNT] 

in the .TYPE at the beginning of the named data. It didn't work.

[I don't know if the fact I'm using All-in-1 2.4 has anything to do
with it.]

Pointers to ANY place that can help me (manual, the All-in-1 Gods @
DEC, etc) would be appreciated.

Thanks...

-Andy-
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From: rharwood@east.pima.edu
Newsgroups: vmsnet.sysmgt
Subject: VAX/VMS BBS system?
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:05:35 GMT

(I posted a similar message on vmsnet.misc... this is NOT cross-posted...)

I've inherited a MicroVAX II, and when the project I'm working on is over, I'll
have a spare phone line on which I'd like to install a publicly-available
bulletin board system.  I'd like the users to be "captive accounts" with VERY
limted access to VMS... you know, like a real "PC-based BBS".

I remember seeing one on DECUS tapes many years ago, but haven't been able to
find it in any archives that I've accessed.

Is anyone using a VAX-based BBS they really like?  Can you point me to
source/executables?

Thanks!
Ray
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Voice: (602)721-1988  |PO Box 18324         |   Pima Community College
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Newsgroups: vmsnet.sysmgt
From: dsroberts@beckman.com
Newsgroups: vmsnet.sysmgt
Subject: System startup options
Date: 21 Jul 92 10:35:43 PDT
Organization: Beckman Instruments

This is a followup to my questions on using the SYSMAN database for startup.

Has anyone tried using spawn/nowait in their startup?

I don't think it's a very good idea, since the spawned process could be killed
by the spawning process completing, and I don't see how it can be that much
less overhead than queuing such that it would make that much difference.  But 
my boss, who fancies himself to be a crack system manager, thinks it would be
a good approach.

What is the net-wisdom on this?

(btw, my boss reads news, so he'll see this :-)
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