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From: mspencer@apple.com (Mark Spencer)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Parking on the sidewalk?
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:47:24 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
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In article <l2qnrqd.dmatejka@netcom.com> Daniel Matejka,
dmatejka@netcom.com writes:
>  Anyway, the [nice] lady on the phone told me that in the City,
>at least, parking on the sidewalk was strictly illegal.  You must
>park in the street, with a wheel or fender against the curb.  Apparently
>parking between cars is also a ticketable offense.  Basically, you're
>left with parking like a car.

Actually, it depends where you are in the city. The financial district is
always a problem. However, I lived in the Cow Hollow area, parked on the
sidewalk for a year, and never had a problem. Generally, the Parking
Police won't mess with you in residential areas, even though it's illegal.
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From: jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: Details on the races ( was Re: Anyone interested in going to the AFM
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 10 Sep 92 09:49:05
Distribution: ba

"jet" == J. Eric Townsend <jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov> writes:


jet> Hey, it's cheap ($12? $15?) and it lasts most of the day.  Just
jet> remember to bring food or you'll be forced to eat overpriced dead
jet> animals.

More details:

The races are at Sears Point, which is located near the intersection
of Hwys 37 and 121.

We'd leave from MV/PA area around 0730hrs, anyone in the city could
meet us on the north side of the GG Bridge around 0830 or 0900.  The
races last until 1600 or so...

(This itenerary is ripped off from eric raible. :-)

As far as "speed", well, last time I went to the races, it cost me
almost $300.  I'm breaking in a bike, right now, and can't go over
70mph or so myself, so I think I'll take it easy...


--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
                              '92 R100R, DoD# 0378
 "Nude wheelies are probably the ultimate in squidliness."  -- someone at
                                                          Lissa's party
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From: blave@netcom.com (David W. Blevins)
Subject: 1993 VFR750
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 21:30:46 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: ba

I went down to Coed Honda today to take a look; it's white and it's
be-oo-tiful.  The decals are a little different than before, and it's
$100 more this time, but hey, I want one.  Unfortunately, it'll have to
wait 'till next spring...  The CBR1000 will have to do until then.

In general, Honda is giving the '93 sport bikes a look closer to what
they've been doing in Europe, like the "HONDA" decal on the bottom 
fairing area.

I've found that Coed has _by far_ the best prices, and the sales guy
will cut a deal even on the '93s for cash...

VFRless for now,   Blave.
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From: howland@noc.arc.nasa.gov (Curtis Howland)
Subject: Miracle on Payne Avenue
Organization: NASA Science Internet Project Office
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 05:36:47 GMT

For the record..... I might have just had the least
damaging collision with a cage yet.

On my way to work, 40mph, clear road, look behind me
and see a chevette-style cage getting a little too 
close. So, I wave it back, that usually works, but 
this time nothing. This person is getting closer yet!
Well, I just had time to hold on when WHAM, I get
hit by this ditz.

The bike is still going straight, thank the Gods, 
so I pull over nearly choking I'm so angry. This 
ditz cager gets out of her car, saying things like
"Oh god, I'm so sorry! I didn't see you!" I walked 
back down the road to get the piece of metal I heard
come off, and I find it's just her license plate.

Well, I go back and check out the bike... nothing.
Not a scratch.

Her license plate mount was plastic, and had melted
when it hit my back tire, so there was no grab. This
likely made it possible for me just to get pushed
rather than pulped. 

Anyway, this license plate mount is smack-dab in the
MIDDLE of her bumper! So, the old addage of staying
as visible as possible has one corolary: It assumes
that on a clear day, at 3:30pm, in the middle of a
road that has only you and the cager on it, the wretch
in the padded cell must still have their eyes open.

It's been a long day....

---
Curt Howland             howland@nsipo.nasa.gov 
DoD#0663  '80 CB750C(For Sale)    '82 V45 Sabre
  If any of these words are caught or killed,
NASA will disavow any knowlege of my existence.
From: sai@formula1.Corp.Sun.COM (S.Fielding-Isaacs [WWFO Pubs Project Lead])
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: roadrace tires for sale
Date: 10 Sep 1992 19:00:58 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: formula1.corp.sun.com

 I've got a variety of roadrace tires for sale.

     Michelin
                TX11 120/70ZR17     $40
                TX23 160/60ZR18     $50

     AVON 
                AV22R 120/70ZR17    $60
                AV23R 150/70ZR18    $70

     Dunlop Sportmax (GP)

                120/70ZR17     $50
                180/55ZR17     $65

 Indeterminate numbers of tires.

 All are DOT street legal however they will not last
 for very long on the street. You could expect about
 3000-4000 miles on the rears and perhaps 5000-6000
 on the fronts. All have been used one race weekend,
 some two race weekends.

 You probably won't heat these up enough to really
 make use of the race compound rubber but they should
 be fine for day to day riding (still stickier than
 street rubber).

 Discounts given if you buy more than two (I've got
 quite a few stacked up).

 cheers,
 Stefan

 you can reach me at:        sfi@btr.com
 or at:                      415-626-6069

 I live South of Market in SF.

 
 
--
Stefan Fielding-Isaacs     me: (415) 599-4876  me at them: (415) 688-9400  
dba Live-Wire Technologies (a consulting technical writing firm) 
"If you're going to crash, then do it on the first lap because then you
don't wear the engine out for nothing." - Jon Ekerold, 350cc World Champion
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From: gwu@nujoizey.tcs.com (George Wu)
Subject: Re: was:a mission honda/yamaha testemonial, now different
Organization: Teknekron Communications Systems Inc.
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 04:58:05 GMT

In article <txd.715617754@Able.MKT.3Com.Com>, txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich) writes:
> 
> I read this, and the two posts before, and it occurs to me that there
> may be no consistancy at all as to how we perceive a service center.

     Yup, I'm starting to think the same thing.  A friend of mine has
nothing but praise for Concord Yamaha.  Mark's gotten all kinds of free
advice and pointers to people who had used parts for the RD400 he was
rebuilding.  He's bought tons of parts from them and says they get their
parts in a couple of days faster than Berkeley Yamaha.  Comparing times
in the past, it seemed he was right.  Then recently I ordered a valve
adjusting tool from them, and it took nearly three weeks.  When I
picked it up, it took them fifteen minutes to find the bloody thing.
The valve cover gasket they said they had in stock over the phone a week
earlier was now out of stock.  I later picked up that same gasket at
Berkeley Yamaha for a dollar less than the price Concord Yamaha quoted.

     Mind you, alot has probably got to do with developing a personal
relationship.  Mark's bought all kinds of stuff from Concord Yamaha.
In addition to the standard racer's discount, they've been known to
tell him, "Oh, this batch of stuff is on the house."  He's picked up
sopmething like $50 of free parts that way.

     Me, I don't wrench all that much, so I don't know any dealers out
here very well.  On the other hand, the guys at Richmond Cycle Gear at
least recognize me since I stop by on my way to work what seems like
once a week.  Except for a set of tires, I've only bought small things
like a couple of quarts of oil, or a pair of gloves, but I'm in there
often enough that my face rings a bell.  I'm still waiting for them to
give me that Stealth jacket on the house, though . . .  :-)

						George

----
George J Wu, Software Engineer         | gwu@tcs.com or uunet!tcs!gwu
Teknekron Communications Systems, Inc. | (510) 649-3700
2121 Allston Way, Berkeley, CA, 94704  | Never be the first to believe . . .
From: robg@Apple.COM (Rob Griffiths)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Honda Experiences (~long)
Date: 6 Sep 92 14:43:29 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Sep4.230700.12269@genghis.borland.com> ewodzien@genghis.borland.com (Ed Wodzienski) writes:

> [depressing story about a CBR600, an onramp, a slow-speed dump, and
   a $3,300 repair bill omitted...]

I own a 1989 CBR600 (FOR SALE :-).  It was purchased used (with about
2K on the odometer) at Peninsula Honda.

About six months after purchasing it, I also dumped it in a slow-speed
corner.  My bike slid across the road, and then tumbled upside down into
a ditch.  After making sure I was OK, my thoughts started to drift to 
the co$t of repairing the damage.

I knew those lovely plastic parts were really expensive.  And I was going
to need A LOT of them!  Alternatives to a dealer rebuild started creeping
through my mind.

After getting the bike home, I returned to the scene of the incident, 
and gathered all the parts I could find.  Then, with the expert assistance
of Paul Thompson, I methodically stripped the bike apart.  Paul helped
me generate a list of required replacement parts (right side lower, right
side engine cover, front fairing, fairing brace, instrument cluster holder,
etc.).

I then took this list to Honda Peninsula and had it costed out.  The total
was scary; I seem to recall about $1,300 or thereabouts.  Someone on the
net suggested trying the mail-order places that advertise in the back of
the cycle rags.  I called Sloan's Honda (in Tennessee), and got a quote
from them (along with a couple of others).  Well, the price differences
were amazing.  I ended up ordering almost everything I needed for about
$850.  I did buy some miscellaneous parts at the local Honda shop, but
not many.

With new parts in hand, it was actually a surprisingly simple job to re-
build the bike.  The final step was taking it down to Cycle City, where 
they straightened the front forks, cleaned up some of the scrapes, 
straightened the brake pedal, and checked the engine for $40 and my
used plastic parts.

The net result was less than $1,000 in total cost, and about 10 hours
of my labor.  And, for the record, I'm usually classified as a member
of the "mechanically challenged."  So anyone should be able to do what
I did, with some help from an expert.

>insane! Now I can understand why the pre-painted fairings are expensive, but
>$6.96 for a bolt and $2.39 for a washer seem a bit excessive. I was worried.

Mail order on these parts won't save much money.  The nuts and bolts seem
to be the same outrageous price everywhere.

Just one person's experience ...

-rob.
-- 
Rob Griffiths    "And the future will be better tomorrow" - Dan Quayle
robg@apple.com   PP-ASEL-IA, looking for clouds .... B52s/REM/Erasure!
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From: wsh8z@Turing.ORG (William S. Heyman)
Subject: Re: Hein Gericke jacket and Shoei helmet for sale
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 03:44:06 GMT

>In article <1992Sep8.140621.26263@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston) writes:

>>my post of recent: v-pilot, 44, perf. cond. -- $225 (free shipping)

In article <18itk4INNh41@agate.berkeley.edu> mvij@ocf.berkeley.edu (Pendragon) writes:

>Was yours an older jacket, or were you being Santa Claus?  I'm basing
>the price on what I paid for it and what it goes for through mail order.

Shh! I'm trying to buy it from him. :-)

Will Heyman		UVA Applied Math	wsh8z@virginia.edu
DoD# 638		CB450T Hawk '82		$5 Ultimate
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Parking on the sidewalk?
Date: 7 Sep 92 08:49:09 PDT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

Curt Howland writes:
>but are there any guide lines about sidewalks? Seems a good idea if
> there's room....

its hit and miss. some places will ticket you, some not.  some cops
or meter maids will ticket you, some not.  

in SF, its pretty reasonable to park on the sidewalk in most places
in town. one exception is in front of the rat & raven (a bar) on 24th 
street, where the neighbors will call the cops to have you ticketed.
sometimes i park on the street near school, when there's no more mcy
parking.  if i park on the sidewalk near the MCY parking, i'm ok; but
once when i parked near 'car parking' on the sidewalk, i got a ticket.
i also got a sidewalk parking ticket in berkeley once.  it was way off
telegraph, but a commercial street nonetheless.

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
--
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From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Subject: Re: I want...
Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 01:04:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.234810.1992@microunity.com> jeff@MicroUnity.com
(Jeff 'Giga-hurts' Kaskey) writes:
>In article <1992Sep9.055617.1909@morrow.stanford.edu>,
karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep8.171555.3128@microunity.com> jeff@MicroUnity.com
>>(Jeff 'Giga-hurts' Kaskey) writes:
>>>[Sportsters] are light, easy to adapt with your favorite bars, seat,
>>                  ^^^^^
>> Compared to what?
>
>Nearly anything in the same displacement range.  At 470 - 480 lbs wet, it is
>lighter than most liter sportbikes and only about 30 lbs over that famed
>lightweight the new CBR600F2.

If this weight is accurate, it's heavier than many of
the bikes that've been suggested: Norton, Triumph,
Ducati.  It's about the same as a BMW R100R.

>Of course, as with other mods, lightening a Sportster
>even more is pretty straightforward - the pipe is a good start, and wheels
>can help a lot too.

Straightforward?  Maybe.  Inexpensive?  No.  Worthwhile?
You be the judge.
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@forel.stanford.edu
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From: gwu@nujoizey.tcs.com (George Wu)
Subject: Valve Adjustment Advice
Organization: Teknekron Communications Systems Inc.
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 05:11:21 GMT

-
     Okay, I finally got tired of the tiny dribble of oil coming out
from under the valve cover of my Yamaha SRX 250.  (That's essentially
the same motor as the XT350, displacement differences aside.)  As long
as I was going to pull the cover off, I figured I'd have a go at adjusting
the valves myself.  The service manual uses a special service tool,
something I'd ordinarily ignore.  however, this tappet adjuster didn't
resemble anything in my toolbox, and it was only $6.

     Anyways, the manual says rotate the adjuster into place with a
screwdriver.  That's it.  I figure it's got to go between the cam and
the tappet, but without touching the shim that covers 99.9% of the
tappet's upper surface.  I just can't seem to get it into place.  Is
anyone familiar with adjusting the valves on this motor, with or without
the bloody SST?

     I'd really like to get this done, as I couldn't find *any* measurable
play, ie. my smallest 0.02 mm feeler gauge wouldn't fit in there.  A
friend tells me this means the valve seats have worn down and eventually
enough exhaust will blow past to overheat the valves and burn one.  Thanks
much in advance.

							George

-- 
----
George J Wu, Software Engineer         | gwu@tcs.com or uunet!tcs!gwu
Teknekron Communications Systems, Inc. | (510) 649-3700
2121 Allston Way, Berkeley, CA, 94704  | Never be the first to believe . . .
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From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: Hein Gericke jacket and Shoei helmet for sale
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:06:21 GMT

In article <18hs19INNcc0@agate.berkeley.edu>,
mvij@ocf.berkeley.edu (Pendragon)writes:

>Hein Gericke V-Pilot leather jacket
>One month old.  Barely used.  Perfect condition.  $300 obo.

>prices beat mail order.

nothing personal, but from the october motorcyclist:

hg v-pilot  $285.95 (and shipping ran me $8)
my post of recent: v-pilot, 44, perf. cond. -- $225 (free shipping)

weren't these the items you wore when you had the infamous wheelie-gone-bad
episode?

>   Manish Vij    ::    '89 EX500          \_/ \\/ )  -- -    --
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From: dmatejka@netcom.com (Daniel Matejka)
Subject: Re: where to buy an used motorcycle
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 21:30:39 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services

In article <55993@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> giamma@thun.oas.olivetti.com (Gianmaria Clerici) writes:
>
>I'm thinking to buy an used motorcycle but I don't really know
>where to look for.
>Any suggestion (good dealer, SF weekly ...) ???

Why is it in the ba. newsgroup, no one ever gets flamed?  So here's
my two bits: I just bought a used bike.  I found the most interesting
ads in the East Bay Diablo Dealer, or something like that.  Most ads
have pictures.  I've also checked dealers and standard newspaper
want ads.  All the prices for used bikes around here are outrageous.
My suggestion is: go to Nashville.  I happen to know asking prices
for used bikes are pretty reasonable there.  I particularly remember
someone advertising a '91 Nighthawk 750 with several thousand miles
for $3800.  $3800?!?  Wasn't that the undiscounted retail price
for a new Hawk in '91?

PS - The bike I bought was one I found in the San Francisco Chronicle,
owned by someone in the East Bay.
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From: ilsa@netcom.com (Ilsa VanHook)
Subject: Re: AFM weekend
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 19:40:24 GMT
Organization: Shonen Knife Fan Club
Distribution: ba

sfi@public.BTR.COM (Stefan Fielding-Isaacs  sfi@btr.com) writes:
>
> Thanks to all of you for coming by and saying "hi". I don't

i would've introduced myself, but i was inside turn 10, and you
didn't seem to want to loiter there...                      %^)
From: mvij@ocf.berkeley.edu (Pendragon)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Parking on the sidewalk?
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:52:18 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: monsoon.berkeley.edu

In article <18h9c3INNaca@agate.berkeley.edu> dcook@garnet.berkeley.edu (Dan Cook) writes:
>It's not that parking between cars is illegal, but that you must park
>3 feet from the white line between the two parking spaces... I don't know
>if this is an old law or not, but here in Berkeley it's been enforced
>pretty agressively recently by the parking nazis... Parking on sidewalks


Three hours ago I got two tickets for parking behind a car at a meter.
One for the 3' rule, and one for 'expired meter.'  Doesn't this sound like
contradictory, double-penalty ticketing?

You generally do NOT have 6' of space between cars at metered parking,
plus a couple of feet for the bike.  So essentially, parking between
cars is illegal in Berkeley, right?

So we have to fuind car-type parking, right?

So parking policies are incredibly stupid, right?

Manish

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                                          /-\o /-()  -- -  --   -
   Manish Vij    ::    '89 EX500          \_/ \\/ )  -- -    --
   mvij@ocf.berkeley.edu                       |/_\  -- -  --   - 
                                                \_/.  .  . . ........
From: lamorte@netcom.com (R. Scott LaMorte)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: For Sale 1985 Yamaha FZ750
Keywords: sale yamaha
Date: 7 Sep 92 21:04:37 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


Runs great, a little hard to start. Compression is down, may need
rings soon. Needs tires. Handles great, ton's o' guts. Plastic is a
bit cracked. I'm getting out of Crotch Rockets and into a Classic,
maybe a Norton or a old boxer twin or something.

$1700 OBO. Email me at lamorte@netcon.com, or call me at 408-287-8121.
.
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From: robert@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Robert Kennedy)
Subject: Re: I want...
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date:  8 Sep 92 19:07:39 GMT

>In article <42qnwlg.lamorte@netcom.com>, lamorte@netcom.com (R. Scott LaMorte) writes:
>|> I want something with *class* and
>|> *style*. I want BAD, not COOL.
>|> [...]
>|> What kind of bikes should I look into ?

An important consideration in any bike these days is its comfort
during those rides you take with, umm...., spartan clothing. A cold
fuel tank against your bare crotch can really detract from the
motorcycling experience, or so I've heard. You might also consider a
sheepskin seat cover, since if you use one of Lissa's light green
towels, it could fall off in the street.

	-- Robert

Robert Kennedy					(415) 723-4532 (office)
robert@cs.stanford.edu				(415) 322-7367 (home voice)
Computer Science Dept., Stanford University	(415) 322-7329 (home tty)
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From: lamorte@netcom.com (R. Scott LaMorte)
Subject: Re: I want...
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 18:28:12 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

jeff@MicroUnity.com (Jeff 'Giga-hurts' Kaskey) writes:

>I can think of no better machine than a Sportster - your needs, desires
>and wallet will determine what year, but your specifications are basically
>a dictionary definition for Sportster.

Sportster, huh? What years were they made in? My budget right now
looks like $2k. $3k if I really really push it. I'd rather start at
$1500 and dropmy own $500 into it for modifications, tune-up, tires,
etc.

Jim sez: Norton, BSA, Triumph. Are those available in a similar price
range? What are the pro/cons of Sportster v. Britster? How does each
rate on reliability, parts availability, performance...
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From: ilsa@netcom.com (Ilsa VanHook)
Subject: Re: Anyone interested in going to the AFM races this Sunday?
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 19:22:56 GMT
Organization: Shonen Knife Fan Club
Distribution: ba

It's a fun thing to do; keep an eye out for DoD-types like Pete Ecclesine, on
an RZ350 with AFM #83 and Jim Brewer, FZR400, AFM #121.  Dwayne Chung, AFM
#3, is not a Denizen, but is out there on the net...

I'll be there Sunday, as usual, with cameras and sunscreen.
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From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Subject: Re: Cycle City
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 06:44:44 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: ba

In article <1992Sep11.173930.495@halfdome.sf.ca.us> bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
>
>the sales floor at mission honda is intersting.  there are only 
>a few sales people.  the middle-aged guy with the mustache is one
>of the owners and wendy is their only hired bike salesperson (that i 
>know of). 
>
>by ignoring you, do you mean that they snub you? or that they just
>leave you to your own devices?  (i suspect that latter, and, given my 
>druthers, i prefer to be left alone).

I meant that there didn't seem to be anyone there.  I had questions, and
there was no one to ask. 

-- 

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From: markb@wc.novell.com (Mark S. Burnham)
Subject: Concord Kawasaki
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:48:08 GMT

Has anyone had any experience with their service department?

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

- Mark

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Mark S. Burnham   (markb@wc.novell.com)    '90  ZX750R
Novell, Inc.                     "Here's a Twinkie, pack the wound..."   
1340 Treat Blvd. #500                             - S. White
Walnut Creek, CA 94596          ** I don't speak for my employer... ** 
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