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From: grossman@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Mike Grossman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Biased announcers
Date: 10 Apr 92 10:47:23 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Apr8.210955.5426@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, glb50263@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Gary L. Blickhan) writes:
> Are Ken Harrelson and Tom Paciorek the only announcers on TV in the country
> that do such obnoxious things as:
> 
> say "Yess!!!" (so professional, aren't they)
> say "He'll grab some bench" about twenty-seven times per game
> say "You can put it on the board" like I control the scoreboard...
> 
> Don't just say that they're on an independent station (WGN, SportsChannel
> Chicago).  The ones on WTBS,KPLR, etc. are very professional and unbiased.
> 
> We don't need cheerleaders, we want real announcers!
> 
> Gary Blickhan
> 
I think there is an area between cheerleaders and "real announcers" that
is the space where local broadcasters ought to take. Not for any silly
moral reason, but simply because I think it makes their calling much better.
Vin Scully is a great announcer, but he'll put anyone to sleep. I've not
heard his local broadcasts in L.A., but I would liked him to go nuts on
the Gibson homerun a couple years ago. He wasn't supposed to do that, I
know, but it would have made the event all that more memorable.

The folks on KPLR (Cardinal television) do indeed sound professional. 
"The Mad Hungarian" Al Hrabosky and Ken (from Barbie doll fame) do a
good job announcing the game...but they are boring as hell!!! They
only seem to have emotion when they're slap-happy going into the fourteenth
inning or so. Otherwise...no thanks.

Harry Carey, Jack Buck, and others make the games more interesting with
their sometimes biased calls. As the greats of broadcasting, though, they
know just when to stop before it gets too obnoxious.

Just my opinion...
Mike Grossman
grossman@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
grossman@ukanvax.bitnet
From: traven@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Neal Traven )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Getting the Win
Date: 12 Apr 92 18:23:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Not having anything to do with the original discussion, but the Subject: line
works just fine...

Heard at the Forbes Field Chapter SABR meeting:

On June 28(?), 1934, Dizzy Dean was improperly given the W in a Cardinal 
victory.  Diz had tired in the top of the ninth, leaving the game clinging to
a 6-5 lead with runners on base.  The reliever then gave up a hit to tie the
game before ending the inning.  The Cards then won it in the bottom of the
ninth.

By the rules then in force, just as now, the reliever is unequivocally the 
winning pitcher.  Yet the St. Louis official scorer gave Dean the win; 
newspapers of the day immediately raised a stink about it, but the scorer's
decision wasn't reversed.

This is particularly important because Dean's 30-7 record was the last 30-win
season in the NL, and the last in MLB until McLain's 31-6 in 1968.

-- 
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neal	traven@unix.cis.pitt.edu	    Beisbol been bery bery good to me!
	traven@vms.cis.pitt.edu				  -- Chico Escuela
Organization: Senior, Economics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Date: Thu,  9 Apr 1992 17:02:37 -0400 
From: King-Han Yao <ky0l+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Shane Mack


Has anyone heard any news about Shane Mack?

Hopefully he's alright.  




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King Yao                       
Economics 
Class of '92                   
Carnegie Mellon
From: schnell@pyramid.unr.edu (Household Word)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Fred McGriff
Date: 11 Apr 92 18:58:41 GMT
Organization: University of Nevada

Did everyone see that grand slam that McGriff hit against the Dodgers
on Friday (4/10)?  It was in the air about two seconds, and landed
halfway up the seats above the right-center wall.  If he hits 40,
I think my Padres can contend.  

What they need to do is take down that plastic fence that was installed
c. 1984.  That way, only Fred can homer in the Murph.  Does anyone
have a better swing than McGriff?  I haven't seen one...

sig NOT

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From: spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira)
Subject: Re: A.L. Shortstops (was something else)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 20:27:09 GMT
Organization: Beechhurst Beguilers   

In <1992Apr14.170709.2036@gould.encore.com> jlundy@bilbo.encore.com (Joe Legend
of Lovullo's Lillies Lundy) writes:

>A hole is still a hole.  Lee/Griffin/Zosky?  We'll have to wait and see how
>Naehring/Rivera/Cooper performs for the Red Sox.  So far, Tim Naehring is
>looking pretty good.

Unfortunately, he's not the everyday shortstop.  Luis Rivera is.  The only
positive thing I can say about Rivera's playing is that he's a little
better than Alfredo or Manny.

>What really surprises me about this is why hasn't anyone picked up Alvaro
>"not the famous philosopher" Espinoza.  Certainly he could do better than most
>of the toxic waste you mentioned, or was he *that* bad?

Well, Alvaro has been picked up; it just wasn't reported by the wire services
for some reason.  He's playing with Cleveland's AAA team, and will probably
come up to the big team if the Indians can get another team to take Felix
Fermin off their hands.

Alvaro isn't any better offensively than most of the no-hit shortstops, but
he's always been an above-average defensive shortstop, which is more than
Manny "Balls Hit Through My Legs Are Hits" Lee.  

Greg  
-- 
  spira@panix.com       "The one-O delivery to Fisk.  He swings.  Long drive,  
 cmcl2!panix!spira      left field!  If it stays fair, it's gone!  Home Run!"  
158-17 Riverside Dr.                     Ned Martin, 10/22/75   
Whitestone NY 11357          (Insert your favorite baseball moment here) 
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From: m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier)
Subject: Re: Yankees 6-0, Jays ain't so great.
Reply-To: m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 22:46:50 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.223217.12030@mercury.cair.du.edu> baxtman@zephyr.cair.du.edu (Captain Chaos) writes:

{I expanded the distribution to North America so my fellow Jay fans
north of the border can see this trash by this Yankee fan afraid to
let this be distributed to Canada}

>Well holly cow even I a wonderfully devoted Yankees fan couldn't have 
>prediced this.  The yankees offense has always been present but the pitching
>and the defense WOW is all I can say.  How awesome.  Well we will see how they
>do tonight against the Jays.  Does anyone know where they are playing.

Who took the next three games?  Go Jays...  9-1....  Bring on the Sox!

>
>Captain Chaos
>


-- 
 Michael Le Houllier           *  John 3:16  * Nov 12, 1991 - Dili      
 (m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu.us) *  Remember: June 4, 1989 - Beijing
 Go BLUE JAYS  8-1    Mop up the Yanks, bring on the Slop Sox.
 CANADIENS:  First Round  vs. Hartford Whalers... give us a real team!
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From: frisbee@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Tyler Brown)
Subject: Re: Comic book collection for sale
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory (NASA)
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:34:35 GMT

Re: Comic book collection for sale

What the bee-jesus does this have to do with baseball?

Go away!!!

frisbee

Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: dbloom@bnr.ca (David Bloom P025)
Subject: Mookie, Mets etc
Keywords: Mookie was released by the Blue Jaysng
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP 
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:25:13 GMT

in the 6-7-8 spots and the pitching. But, the season is
Hubie Brooks was traded for Dave Gallagher.


Dick Schofield  was traded for Julio Valera and a minor league
player to be named later.


I wonder who this minor league player will be???


As far as the Mets Defense being a factor so far this season,
The defense really hasn't cost them a game yet. The infield
defense is the best it has been in years.  Schofield is one
of the best fielding shortstops.

The problem with the mets so far has been the lack of hitting
in the 6-7-8 spots and the pitching. But, the season is
young and the pitching will get better.
I think it is time for Magadan to be the #3 hitter.
From: riff@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher P. Riff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Apr7:Cubs-Phillies boxscore
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:54:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Cubs 4, Phillies 3
CHICAGO      AB  R  H  RBI   PHILA.      AB  R  H  RBI
Dunston ss   5   1  2   0    Dykstra cf  3   2  1   0
Sosa cf      5   0  1   1    Duncan ss   4   0  1   0
Sandberg 2b  3   0  1   1    Hollins 3b  3   0  1   1
Dawson rf    5   1  2   0    Kruk 1b     4   0  2   2
Grace 1b     3   1  1   2    Murphy rf   4   0  0   0
Villanueva c 3   0  0   0    Daulton c   4   0  0   0
 Dascenzo lf 0   0  0   0    Chmbrlain lf4   0  0   0
Salazar lf   3   0  1   0    Mornadini 2b3   1  2   0
 Girardi c   0   0  0   0     Amaro ph   1   0  0   0
Scott 3b     3   0  1   0    Mulholland p1   0  0   0
Maddux p     3   1  1   1     Sveum ph   1   0  0   0
 Dw Smith ph 1   0  0   0     B Jones p  0   0  0   0
 Slocumb p   0   0  0   0
 McElroy p   0   0  0   0

TOTALS      34   4  10  4               32   3  7   3

CHICAGO........000 220 000 - 4  10  0
PHILADELPHIA...102 000 000 - 3   7  2

E-Hollins(1),Daulton(1). LOB-Chicago 9,Philadelphia 5.
2B-Sosa(1). HR-Grace(1). SB-Sandberg(1). CS-Kruk(1).
S-Mulholland. SF-Sandberg. DP-Philadelphia-2.
BB-Grace,Villanueva,Salazar,Scott. SO-Sosa 2,Dawson,
Grace;Duncan 2,Dykstra,Kruk,Murphy,Daulton,Chamberlain,
Morandini,Mulholland.

CHICAGO           IP  H  R  ER  BB  SO  NP
G Maddux(W1-0)    7   6  3  3   0   6   92
Slocumb           .1  1  0  0   0   0    5
McElroy(S1)      1.2  0  0  0   0   3   15
PHILADELPHIA
Mulholland(L0-1)  7   9  4  4   4   4  107
B. Jones          2   1  0  0   0   0   20
Inherited runners-scored-McElroy 1-0. HBP-by Maddux
(Dykstra,Hollins),by Jones (Sandberg). WP-Maddux.
T-2:28, A-60,431.
 
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From: epstein@sunc7.cs.uiuc.edu (Milt Epstein)
Subject: Re: NO-HITTERS
Reply-To: epstein@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 06:04:29 GMT

In <167C8D780.CAVGEOE@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> CAVGEOE@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes:

>     I've been following this no-hitter thread, and I have to say
>this protest against the rule that "robbed" Matt Young of a no-hitter
>has gotten out of hand.  First of all, as has been pointed out, who
>cares what the Rules Committee says?  It has no affect on how the game
>is played, it's just a title somebody made up for a (supposedly) great
>pitching feat.  And speaking of great, just what was so great about
>the way Young pitched?  He walked *seven* batters; is it that surprising
>that he gave up two runs?  He pitched a good game, like any pitcher who
>goes 8 innings and gives up 2 runs, but it was hardly a historic effort.

I have to disagree here.  He pitched a complete game and allowed no
hits, so there is no reason he should not be credited with a
no-hitter.  Whether he lost doesn't really matter -- there are plenty
of no-hitters that were losses still left official by the rules.
Whether he pitched a "great" game shouldn't matter -- that is a
subjective criteria, and whether something is a no-hitter should be
based on an objective criteria.  They do have an objective criteria
now, but it is not a good one.  You may say that Young pitched badly,
giving up seven walks -- but what if a pitcher had given up one walk,
followed by a stolen base, a sacrifice bunt, and a sacrifice fly, and
lost 1-0?  Would you still say he pitched badly?  Well, unfortunately,
by the current criteria, if he was pitching on the road, he wouldn't
have gotten the no-hitter.

This rule change sounds like it eliminates some, but not all,
no-hitters that are losses (from what I remember, there can still be
extra-inning losses that are no-hitters).  That seems arbitrary, and I
don't understand the sense of it.

-- 
Milt Epstein
Department of Computer Science
University of Illinois
epstein@cs.uiuc.edu
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From: rosensta@ace.rutgers.edu (Michael "Trott" Rosenstark)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball,soc.culture.china,talk.politics.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,rec.games.frp
Subject: Re: Free magazine offer from a NY company.
Date: 11 Apr 92 17:57:25 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.baseball
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

AGGGHHHH!!!!


how come we have to endure this stupid thread every six months?

I have a completely original idea:

	let's only post stuff relevant to this group in this group.

what do you all think?

mike
-- 
rosensta@ace.rutgers.edu
rosensta@trump.rutgers.edu


   "Caveat habeas diem pluribus ennui, seclorum pro bono publico."

 	-- Pliny the Larger, after being struck on the head, ca. 202 B.C.
From: SASCHO@mvs.sas.com (SASCHO)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: DUMB inexcusable play
Date: 8 Apr 92 10:45:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: mvs.19920408104543SASCHO
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
X-Bytes: 1064

>there anyway. Then, on the next pitch (ball four), Coleman streaks for third
>and is thrown out. So DeLeon gets out of an inning in which the last 8 pitches
>he threw were balls. And oh yeah, Bobby Bonilla leads off the next inning with
>a dinger.
>        What could possibly have been so important about getting to third
>with two men out? Does Vince Coleman have a brain? Is Torborg going to fine his
>ass? Am I going to make it through this season without putting as bounty on
>Vince's head?
 
In baseball, you never make the third out at third. NEVER. You can score
from second on everything that would allow you to score from third.
The only exception is a PB/WP. I think he should be fined, cuz guys
that have the green light to steal on their own need to show that they
have responsibility. Trying to pad stats and hurting the team
should result in a fine. Rarely in baseball do you hurt the team by
padding your stats, but this is a case of doing so.
 
 
 
Chuck Oertli
SAS INSTITUTE INC.
AUSTIN, TX                                  SASCHO@MVS.SAS.COM
>
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From: franjion@news.colorado.edu (John Franjione)
Subject: Field of Dreams Trivia
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:38:35 GMT

In the scene at Fenway Park in FoD, who was pitching and who was
hitting?  My guesses are Oil Can Boyd and Ron Hassey.

Like true baseball nerds that we are, my wife and I went through the
fast-flashing scoreboard scene frame-by-frame, and tried to see whose
picture and what messages were on the scoreboard.  I could only make
out for sure Gary Carter and Orel Hershiser.  One of the more
interesting messages said something like, "Please rise as John Kiley
plays the Canadian and US National Anthems."

A very minor mistake:

When Ray sees the "Moonlight Graham" message on the scoreboard, he
writes it on the Red Sox side of the scorecard, when, in fact, the A's
were batting at the time.

John Franjione
franjion@rastro.colorado.edu
From: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Robinson and Boyer
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:46:48 GMT
Reply-To: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

=In article <1992Apr06.211101.4456@cpqhou.compaq.com> carlr@cpqhou.UUCP (Carl Re
=mpert) writes:
=So, say we have two second basemen, who played exactly the same number of
=innings at second, faced exactly the same number of balls hit to them that
=would be reached by an average 2b, converted exactly the same number of
=them into outs, but one made 40 errors and the other 20.  Now, who's the
=better fielder, and why?
>
>Well, then, let's have it.  You haven't told me what you would use errors
>for even in conjunction with other stats.
>Sherri Nichols

 I believe the point he is making is more a qualitative/quantitative
type argument. The exact numerical value of the total errors does not
tell the whole story, but when taken as a part of the story, they have
meaning.  One piece of circumstantial evidence does not prove guilt,
but when many pieces of the puzzle drop into place...JAIL time.

Sports are a analog thang, they cannot be examined as if they were either
yes or no, good or bad, etc.

Brian
Hopefully going to the new Mecca thusday (CAMDEN YARDS! a ballpark not
a stadium)
See ya in the ALCS!
From: kuras@aidev.enet.dec.com (Joe Kuras)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Who's On First--The Dialogue!
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:50:40 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Apr7.172801.12603@asd.com>, scott@asd.com (Scott Barman) writes...
>In article <nittmo.702269436@camelot> nittmo@camelot.bradley.edu (Christopher Taylor) writes:
>along as a coach).  Does someone have the radio version available??  (I
>think I have the tape somewhere... if I find it *I* will post it! :-)

I posted a version in here; it may have been "the movie" verison. I have
an audio cassette tape, off of an old A&C radio show, at home. On that
tape, they are making the plans to sub for the injured DiMaggio.  ...but
I never took the time to transpose the lines.
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From: glb50263@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Gary L. Blickhan)
Subject: Re: Biased announcers
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:46:07 GMT

kenneth@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:

>In article <1992Apr8.210955.5426@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, glb50263@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Gary L. Blickhan) writes:

>Well, I know of no real rule that announcers must be unbiased.  Obviously
>not, since there are so many that ARE biased.  I think the ones on major
>networks are supposed to be unbiased, with the exception of WTBS.  After all,
>Ted Turner does own the thing by himself pretty much, and I've seen Skip
>Caray say things like, "Well, let's hope the Braves can get something going
>here." or some such thing.  Well, Skip is just bizarre anyway. :)

>Ken

I have no problem with someone saying "Let's hope they can get something
going here."  **That's** what the job is about.

What I am really talking about it the ear-shattering screams that these
two announcers (Harrelson and Paciorek) broadcast over and over and over.

(It's really more of a "YYYYYYeeeeeessssssssssss!")  

Gary Blickhan
From: dkl@cs.arizona.edu (David K. Lowenthal)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Paul O'Neil
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:53:45 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Apr7.211112.11652@acsu.buffalo.edu> v083qpkr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Jeffrey C Toth) writes:
>Does anyone know why Paul O'Neil was so low in the batting order?  I thought he
>was to be there power-go-to-guy when they got rid of Eric Davis.
>
>Thanks
>
>Jeff

Because against lefties he bails out of the box like I did when I was
10 years old.

He hit .201 against lefties last year, .283 against righties.

--dave
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From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Subject: Re: Robinson and Boyer
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:19:06 GMT

In article <17724@oasys.dt.navy.mil> kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat) writes:
> I believe the point he is making is more a qualitative/quantitative
>type argument. The exact numerical value of the total errors does not
>tell the whole story, but when taken as a part of the story, they have
>meaning.  One piece of circumstantial evidence does not prove guilt,
 ^^^^^^^
>but when many pieces of the puzzle drop into place...JAIL time.

*What meaning*?  That's what I'm try to get the error supporters to tell
me.  

What piece of the puzzle do error totals fill in?  How are they useful in
determining whether player A is a better shortstop than player B?  That's
what I want to know from the error supporters; so far, all I get is a
repeat of "they're part of the puzzle".

Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com
From: dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu (David M Tate)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: DUMB inexcusable play
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:04:29 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <19920408104543SASCHO@mvs.sas.com> SASCHO@mvs.sas.com (SASCHO) writes:
> 
>In baseball, you never make the third out at third. NEVER. You can score
>from second on everything that would allow you to score from third.
>The only exception is a PB/WP. 

Well, or an infield hit, or a ground ball error, or a balk.

>I think he should be fined, cuz guys
>that have the green light to steal on their own need to show that they
>have responsibility. Trying to pad stats and hurting the team
>should result in a fine. Rarely in baseball do you hurt the team by
>padding your stats, but this is a case of doing so.

Actually, we can compute just how dumb this was, to some extent.

On average, a team with a man on second and two out can expect to score 
about .35 more runs in the inning.  A team with a man on third and two
out can expect to score about .38 or .39 more runs.  So, the marginal value
of the stolen base is about .03 or .04 expected runs.  If we let 'p' denote
the probability of successfully stealing the base, then the expected value
of the attempt is given by

	p * .04 + (1-p) * (-.35) =  .39 p - .35

implying that this is only a winning bet if p > 35/39, which is between 89%
and 90% success.

Now, Coleman's career success rate for stealing 3rd is probably right around
90%.  What this means is that, in the long run, he's probably not costing the
team any runs by doing that.  If it's important to his intimidation of the
opposing pitchers to *always* be a threat, then it might actually be a boost
for the team overall, as long as he doesn't do it in situations where the
club needs one run immediately (like the 9th inning of a tie game).  It's a
strategy that makes the risk-averse duck and cover, but it's not really good
or bad for the team in the end.

On the whole, I'd say that it was not a wise decision, but was probably less
stupid than a sacrifice bunt in the fourth inning...



-- 
          David M. Tate            |"The man who hath no music in himself
     dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu       | Nor is not moved by concord of sweet sound
  A poem should be dumb, / As old  | Is fit for treason, stratagems, and spoils
 medallions to the thumb.-MacLeish | 	Shakespeare, "Merchant of Venice", A.V
From: thornley@cs.umn.edu (David H. Thornley)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: info on players
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:22:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr9.202237.21723
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.

In article <1992Apr8.153446.19066@icf.hrb.com> e2s@icf.hrb.com (Eric M. Sebastian) writes:
>[Wants info on players for fantasy league]
>
>    Kent Hrbek           1b        Minnesota Twins (how long on DL??)

Should be back in a couple weeks or so.  It might be longer, though.
Hrbek doesn't compete for playing time; other Twins 1B compete for
what's left over.

David Thornley
"Also has Hrbek on a fantasy team"
From: ky0l+@andrew.cmu.edu (King-Han Yao)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: What do the numbers mean?
Date: 16 Apr 92 03:39:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.QdvDPna00UhBM6c5JN
	<1992Apr15.214130.25884@Princeton.EDU>
Organization: Senior, Economics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

On 15-Apr-92 in Re: What do the numbers mean?
user David Marc Nieporent@pho writes:
>>I wonder what will happen if/when Cal Ripken passes Lou Gehrig's
>>consecutive games played record?  Someone, I am sure, will have a
>>complaint.  Even now that Dick Young has been dead for a few years....
> 
>What would the complaint be?  He took more games to do it than Gehrig? :)
>No, this one would be difficult to complain about.  Ripken plays SS, not
>1B, and has never done one of those "pinch hit and then be replaced in
>the bottom half of the inning" things like Gehrig in order to keep his 
>streak going.

Did Gehrig really do this?  I wasn't aware of it.
How many times did you do it?


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King Yao                       
Economics 
Class of '92                   
Carnegie Mellon