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From: melchers@Chico.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE (Bernd Melchers)
Subject: Re: How to compile Gnuplot3.2 under DELL
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 09:15:53 GMT

jrh@mustang.dell.com (Randy Howard) writes:

>melchers@Chico.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE (Bernd Melchers) writes:

>>Comipling gnuplot with DELL goes straight forward. 
>>Just type make All. But if you want to compile a
>>version for X11 and type
>>make gnuplot_X11
>>this result in the following error:

>change this 
>>	cc  -O  -DREADLINE    -o gnuplot_x11 gnuplot_x11.c -lX11 -lucb
>to:
>>	cc  -O  -DREADLINE    -o gnuplot_x11 gnuplot_x11.c -lX11 -lc -lucb -lsocket -lnsl

>>What library i need for succesfully compiling?
>>Answers will be summarized!
>>Thanks bernd

Now it does work. I compiled Gnuplot with the following switches:
cc  -O  -DREADLINE    -o gnuplot_x11 gnuplot_x11.c -lX11 -lnsl -lsocket

By the way: The possibility to command line editing is not 
very similar to emacs. The word oriented functions ( ESC-B, ESC-F,...)
does not work. I think, they are not implemented. To go 10 characters
to the left, you must push ten times ^B.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.msdos
From: rlm@wyvern.twuug.com (Robert Mohrmann)
Subject: MS Windows 3.1 via SCO UNIX (thanks)
Organization: Tidewater UNIX Users Group
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:06:16 GMT


I want to thank everyone who has responded to my question about how you
can run MS Windows 3.1 via SCO UNIX. Digging deeper we found that the
only real requirement for our company's internal software package is
a windowing environment supporting MOTIF.

We have identified 3 possibilities:

1. Open Desk Top (ODT)
2. DeskView/X
3. JSB multiview w/ MS Windows 3.1

Unfortunately, one of the only environments that the other department
has NOT ported the code to is SCO UNIX which our department uses. :-(
They HAVE ported it to HP UNIX. So, the only option we have is
JSB multiview w/ MS Windows 3.1 at least for now.

This may not be so bad because ODT is a great deal more expensive than
JSB multiview and MS Windows 3.1 combined, and DeskView/X is only
slighty cheaper.

Thanks again.
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From: john@rhutch.uucp (John Strittmatter)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: registering UnixBBS
Date: 15 Sep 92 03:38:54 GMT
Organization: Rabbit Hutch

I've been trying to find out how to register UnixBBS, but I've been unable
to contact the author.  Does anyone know how I can contact him to register
UnixBBS?

John
...rutgers!devon!sojurn!rhutch!john
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.windows.x,comp.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.mach,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: orville%weyrich@tnet.com (Orville R. Weyrich)
Subject: Re: Free software and the future of support for Diamond products
Keywords: Diamond, free-software
Reply-To: tnet.com!weyrich!orville
Organization: Weyrich Computer Consulting
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 15:20:26 GMT

In article <c3xn+a=.kwan@netcom.com> kwan@netcom.com (Kwan-Seng Low) writes:
>	If none of the vendor willing to reveal how to set clock on their s3
>based card, maybe us the users might consider design our own.
>	Here's my dream card: User contributed, VESA compliance SVGA card.
>Given enough hardware design tools (Orcad, spice,...), one would came up a
>hardware design that only utilize standard component that's readily available
>in any large electronics shop (e.g. Fry's in Bay Area). Complete schematics,
>parts list, how to obtain it, complete doc. on how to build it, everything 
>available on public domain.
>	People has been selling hardware kit for some time, come to think about
>it, it's something that can be done. In this case, we just have a very narrow 
>focus; we want to build a public domain hardware design that's specifically
>optimized to run X on PC's unixes. People can take the initial design, perfect
>it, perhaps adding new chips/parts when they're readily available on the market.
>
>	any response is welcome, just want to test this idea is making sense.
>It would eliminate the dependence on vendors when it come to writing display
>driver.

I seem to recall that someone put together a kit that uses 16550 uarts to
good advantage and that was optimized for the fas device driver. I don't
think the design is public domain, but the kit DOES come with full schematics.

I wonder how that item is doing? It might be some indication of how to procede
as you want to above.



orville

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch)
Subject: Re: What is the fastest 80x86 SVR4 X window hardware?
Organization: Somewhere just far enough out of Toronto
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:30:58 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.153201.18582@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
	dwex@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.e.wexelblat) writes:

>In article <BuB644.GCw@gator.rn.com> larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
>> jdc@tropix.uucp (Jim Cronin) writes:

>A big piece of the puzzle is "do you want free X, with source?"

Another piece is "do you need a commercial GUI"? I don't think XFree86
comes with Motif or Open Look.

>If free software is not a concern, and you are still shopping for an SVR4,
>then the Dell option with the ATI Ultra is probably your best bet.  For
>other SVR4s, there are two commecial options: SGCS and MetroLink.  Thomas
>Roell, the author of X386 (the X server in X11R5) is part of SGCS.  He
>also put together Dell's package.  For those in the know, this speaks volumes.
>MetroLink has been selling commercial X longer, and has support for some
>truly high-end hardware.  Here's some contact information:

ESIX also includes, as part of its GUI package, a server for the 8514/A,
as well as the ATI SVGA chipset. This package also includes Motif, Open
Look, and X.Desktop, and has a list price of US$380.

The beginning of September ATI announced a number of changes to its
line. There are two new cards out, the Ultra Pro and Ultra Plus, which
are even faster than the current cards, and priced lower than the old
cards were. The existing line, including the 8514/Ultra, the Graphics
Ultra and the Graphics Vantage, have all been slashed in price. Expect
prices for the 8514/Ultra to drop to a street price of under $300.
-- 
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From: sean@mks.com (Sean Goggin)
Subject: Re: Experiences with V Systems' VSI*FAX Software
Organization: Mortice Kern Systems Inc., Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:56:55 GMT

karl@ttank.ttank.com (Karl Bunch) writes:
>If you've used the above software would you please relate any experiences


I have been looking for a sparc fax system.
Here is what I have found with comments and costs.


V-Systems	VSI*FAX Software	+1 714 545 6442 Fax +1 714 545 7653
		FxServer	FSRVSN1		1 495.00
		FxScript	FSCRSN1		  395.00
		FxVision	FVSNSN1		  795.00
		Unlimited X terminals on system	2 495.00
		or
		Per X terminal			   95.00

MKS's system					5 180.00			

Evaluation cost
						  125.00

Comments
Everything appears to work as documented.
VSI*FAX postscript emulation is good.
The system appears to work great. 
V-Systems treats Xterminals as "nodes" and
you need to have a license for each X terminal you plan to 
run the software on.
There is a  regular terminal interface which is also friendly.

GNP Computers	XpressFax		+1 818  
		10 user floating license	5 000.00

Evaluation cost
						   50.00

Comments
XpressFax is $5000 is supposed to have same features as VSI*FAX.
It also has a source of OCR software, forever they do not have the price.
I have not received the eval package yet.  Xpressfax is licensed per active user. 

COS Software	TruFax			+1 In New Jersey
						  630.00
Comments
It's cheap.  The postscript emulation was poorly done.  It works OK.

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From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: >16MB on a 486
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:16:21 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <BuAIIo.EE6@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us>, mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst) writes:

| I *have* applied the 403001 patch from Esix, but I don't think that's
| required to get it to recognize all the memory -- you just need it if
| you have a bus mastering hard disk controller and >16MB of memory.

  It's not as simple as that. On some versions of UNIX the floppy uses
DMA while the hard disk uses CPU. due to the low speed of the DMA
interface. A buffered HD controller could use DMA, but most don't.

  In any case, the DMA controller has the same limitation on memory
size, plus a few others about address wrap and page boundaries which are
getting mercifully dim in my memory. The bottom line is that some
versions of UNIX will have trouble with the floppy but not the hard if
you go >16MB.

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From: mem@mv.mv.com (Mark E. Mallett)
Subject: Re: Free software and the future of support for Diamond products
Keywords: Diamond, free-software
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 20:45:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.133347.4433@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> dwex@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.e.wexelblat) writes:
>3) Some of us are such Unix snobs that DOS will never touch our machine.
>   Having to boot DOS, then boot Unix, is an unnacceptable crock.  If you
>   want to do it, fine.  But don't suggest that as a rational alternative.
>4) No other manufacturer is trying to make us jump through hoops, so we just 
>   plain won't support the one that is.

Just as an aside, I have had to boot MSDOS to configure at least 2
cards for my ISC machine.  Both were Ethernet cards: the 3c503 and the
WD 8013 (er, SMC Ethercard Plus Elite).  Imagine my surprise (and, I'm
sure, that of many) to find that there was no facility for this under
UNIX, and that I had to go out and buy a copy of MSDOS.

I have also had to boot MSDOS just to run the diagnostics on nearly every
card.

Not the same, I know, as this issue.  But still pretty annoying.

-mm-
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From: jrowland@cs.utexas.edu (John Richards Rowland)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.windows.x,comp.os.linux,comp.os.mach,comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: Free software and the future of support for Diamond products
Date: 7 Sep 1992 00:38:24 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: needmore.cs.utexas.edu
Keywords: Diamond, free-software


I dont see the problem here. I use bios calls to set the clocks.
By observation, I can determine what clock settings each bios call
sets the PLL to.  Just before Xfree86 starts, I take it apon myself
to make that bios call, and the bios sets the clock values to what I need.

For example:
When I boot my linux system I always remember to choose the text mode
100x40 in the selection list because I know that setting that text mode also
sets the clocks to what I want for my chosen resolution.  This type of
trickery is uncomfortable, but it does allow me to use X on my Diamond 
Speedstar24 using bios 5.X.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst)
Subject: Re: socket lib for SCO
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 14:55:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Programmer's Pit Stop, Ann Arbor MI

In article <5SEP199218342602@zeus.tamu.edu> jle9162@zeus.tamu.edu (ECKHARDT, JASON LEE) writes:
>  Anyone know where I can find a socket library for SCO UNIX 3.2.2?
>I've tried the one from anomaly, but it was written for xenix and just
>dumps core whenever gethostbyname() is called.

It's called the "SCO TCP/IP Development System for SCO Unix".  Latest
version is 1.2.0, and it's available wherever fine SCO products are
sold.

Oh, you want one for free?  Sorry, I can't help you there.

-- 
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mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us   | Only a real man would use a GUI where the
                            | shift keys after "Alt" are "Super" and "Hyper."
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon)
Subject: Re: SCO support (was: How to replace disk driver in SCO Unix ?)
Organization: Open Age, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:59:28 GMT

keith@ksmith.uucp (Keith Smith) writes:

>In article <1992Sep7.155915.11487@compu.com> fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home) writes:
>>larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
>>
>>>>Let's face it, there a few SCO UNIXses running out there on 486/33 EISA
>>
>>>I am wondering (actually was thinking) if any other vendors UNIX runs on
>>>this same machine?
>>
>>There would be gnashing of teeth and untold horror out in generic sysv land if 
>>they did.  Rather than have such a disaster strike the earth it is best not
>>even tried.  The risk is simply too high.
>>
>>:-)
>>-- 
>>W. Fred Rump 	office:	   fred@COMPU.COM     'mans feet have grown/so big 
>>26 Warren St.   home: fred@icdi10.compu.com  that he/forgets his littleness'
>>Beverly, NJ. 08010                          		Don Marquis 
>>609-386-6846    bang:uunet!cdin-1!icdi10!fr   


>Hehehe, Responding to the last three posts.

>Yea.  It runs 3.2.2 like a bat out of hell! So in this case Mr.  Rump I
>would have to say that in 3.2.4 SCO broke something.  In fact I have 2
>different clones that it (the .4 upgrade) crawls on that run the Very
>Same configuration SCO 3.2.2 fine.  One EISA and 1 ISA.  My point was a
>problem with .4 that was not in .2.  And Yes.  It runs MST SVR4 fine
>too. 

>So is the problem SCO's?  Well, I dunno, They had a product that worked
>fine, and then the upgrade makes the box crawl.  You tell me?


If you all were reading biz.sco.general you would know about the caching
of disk buffers and kernel placement in .4 vs .2.  If you put more
cache RAM in the machine this usually help it greatly.  
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Teach a man to think, and all his problems are less.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: maklinm@cognos.com (Maxwell Maklin)
Subject: Re: Login problem ofr SCO Unix .
Organization: Cognos Incorporated, Ottawa CANADA
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:39:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.052421.13095@iitb.ernet.in> vijay@iitb.ernet.in (Vijay J. Talati) writes:
>Hello ,
>	We are using SCO Unix 5.3.2 . I am facing on problem . 

I think your first problem is that you probably mean, SCO Unix 3.2.2 :)

>It does not allow me to login . I have not changed my password .
>Still it says " iIncorrect login" . By using " sysadmsh" , 
>( sysadmsh -> Accounts -> user -> examine ) , 
>It says :
>" unaccepatable user : manish . 
>User's entry in /etc/passwd and protected Passwowd Database Differ .
>
>	How  to solve it ? 

Someone has gone in and modified the /etc/passwd, not advisable!  All
changes to accounts should be made through sysadmsh.  SCO Unix 3.2.4
will allow some more relaxed security and this is not so stringent, but
at 3.2.2 you are only asking trouble like your having.

Now for possible solutions.  Run authck -p and hopefully it should 
prompt you to fix the discrepencies.  Note you must be root to run
this priveleged command or have the auth subsystem authorizations

Max
>Is is possible to delete the user and create the user with same login id ?
>
>Also sometimes , Iam facing other problem . At login prompt , after giving
>login name , it does not proceed futher ( does not give prompt for 
>passwed) and just hangs . What could be the problem ?
>
>Please send me reply by e-mail .
>e-mail address .
>manish@gateway.iitb.ernet.in
>Thanks .
>
>Manish .
>


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: kdenning@portal.hq.videocart.com (Karl Denninger)
Subject: Re: DELL SVR4 - separate /usr and /var filesystem?
Summary: Stability
Keywords: dell svr4 filesystem
Organization: VideOcart Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:58:42 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.150336.10748@unixland.natick.ma.us> bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser) writes:
>evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes:
>
>>An ESIX unlimited user licence with development system, sells for under
>>$650US. Add XFree86 and you've got a fairly complete system, still $650,
>
>At this price, it is about 1/2 the price of DELL!  It's getting to the point
>where it is hard to even compare DELL and ESIX!  Aside from getting a bunch
>of FREE Public Domain tools (and Merge), I'm not sure I see how DELL could
>be worth DOUBLE the price.  Is it really?  Is it *that* much more stable
>than ESIX?  (Stability is one of my key concerns, not lots of stuff I can
>get nearly for free anyway).

Well, since I loaded Issue 2.2 at my home site the system has been running
non-stop.  No resets, reboots, reloads or anything else.  Zero.  Nada.  Not
a single operational problem.  I run the entire gamut, including Cnews and
friends, Ethernet services (I have a few DOS PCs which NFS mount things) and
work the system VERY hard.  I'm known to be one of those types of people who
find OS bugs that others miss, much to the chagrin of the vendors ;-).

No other OS I have ever run on this hardware has managed to last 30 days
without some kind of incident.  That includes ISC 2.x, SCO Xenix and Dell's
earlier releases.  I have that on this load so far.  Modulo power 
interruptions, I expect literally months before the first reload at 
this point.

As a side note, many other sites, including some commercial ones I am aware 
of, run ISC 2.2 without incident for months at a time.  I was never able to 
get more than about 14-21 days off a boot before things would get sufficiently
strange that either the machine would crash or I'd willingly reboot it.

I'll pay more for >working< software every time.  Dell 2.2 is a workhorse, a
good network neighbor and as far as I can tell, solid enough that I'd have
no qualms about using it for commercial data processing.  

This is the first X86 release I've seen that I can say that about.

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From: johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: Loosing incoming serial characters [summary]
Date: 6 Sep 92 03:36:04 GMT
Organization: I.E.C.C.

In article <JOCHEN.92Sep5145619@busybit.mrz.sub.org> you write:
>Some weeks ago I wrote about problems, loosing incoming characters on
>my dumb serial port. I got many replies from people with similar
>problems, ...
>	My system looses incoming serial characters at speeds >2400bps
>	even with fas and 16550 chips. ...
>	With uucp and V32bis connections I get 1300cps on outbound
>	traffic, but only 800cps on inbound traffic. ...
>	My floppy is slow and sometimes I get floppy I/O-errors when
>	there is activity on the hard disk.
> [ and in each case]
>	I have SCSI-disks with busmaster dma hostadapter (like adaptec 1542)

That's strange.  I have an Adaptec 1542B and serial ports with 16550A's
running at 19.2K.  I get about 1100 cps uucp over a Telebit (which is
about as fast as they go) and reliable send and recieve with a dumb fax
modem which is very unforgiving about lost characters, even when cranking
the two SCSI disks as hard as I can.  I set BUSON to 7us and BUSOFF to 4us.

Maybe you have a cruddy motherboard.  I used to have the ubiquitous Intel
386/25 motherboard (the board is built by Intel, but the CPU is the only
Intel chip on it!) and have since upgraded to an EISA 486/25.  On neither
one did I have any overrun problems.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us, {spdcc|ima|world}!iecc!johnl
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst)
Subject: Re: DELL SVR4 - separate /usr and /var filesystem?
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 00:48:14 GMT
Organization: The Programmer's Pit Stop, Ann Arbor MI
Keywords: dell svr4 filesystem bundling

In article <id.9E9T.L_5@ferranti.com> peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva) writes:
>Does Dell include the text processing system?

I would hope so, since "text processing" (i.e., n/troff, eqn, tbl, and
friends) is part of the BSD Compatibility Package in the base SVR4
runtime system.  It is (unfortunately) not ditroff, and only knows how
to drive three phototypesetters (none of which are PostScript or
HPLJ), but you can always add psroff.

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                            | shift keys after "Alt" are "Super" and "Hyper."