HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dougvoss@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Douglas Voss)
Subject: Wanted: format.dat for Maxtor XT-3280
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:33:48 GMT

I am looking for any information on this drive.  About all I know is that its
supposed to be a 280 Meg (unformatted), SCSI.

Thanks!

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Douglas Voss                                  dougvoss@vuse.vanderbilt.edu
Vanderbilt University
Computer Science Department
Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.wanted:2057 comp.sources.wanted:5458
From: duperval@crim.ca (Laurent Duperval)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sources.wanted
Subject: Looking for voice recording modules
Date: 21 Dec 92 18:32:49 GMT
Organization: Centre de Recherche Informatique  de Montreal
Originator: duperval@bond.crim.ca

Hello all,

I'm looking for source code that can be used to do voice recording on a
Sparc 2.  Specifically, I'm looking for something that ressembles the
Voice Mail module on mailtool.

Does anyone know where I may be able to find such a beast?

Thank you for any and all answers.
-- 
Laurent Duperval          | The opinions expressed herein are my own and
duperval@samson.crim.ca   | do not represent those of the company I work
Tel: 340-5798             | for.  That's because they don't have enough 
                          | $$$ to afford them.  Noone does.
From: hanson@pogo.fnal.gov (Steve Hanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.wanted
Subject: Re: Special Promotion - SPARCclassics for HOME
Date: 30 Dec 92 15:09:27 GMT
Reply-To: hanson@pogo.fnal.gov
Organization: FERMILAB, Batavia, IL
NNTP-Posting-Host: pogo.fnal.gov

In <STEINAR.HAUG.92Dec30091320@delab.sintef.no> Steinar.Haug@delab.sintef.no (Steinar Haug) writes:

>guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris) writes:
>> bootme$ ldd /corp/apps/share/frame.3.0.x/bin/bin.sun4/maker3X.exe 
>> /corp/apps/share/frame.3.0.x/bin/bin.sun4/maker3X.exe: statically linked
>>
>> As it's statically linked, it won't work on 5.x - being statically

>There seems to be several different versions of Frame out there... we run
>3.1X here, and it is definitely dynamically linked:

>% file /usr/frame/bin/bin.sun4/maker3X.exe
>/usr/frame/bin/bin.sun4/maker3X.exe:    sparc demand paged dynamically linked executable
>% ldd /usr/frame/bin/bin.sun4/maker3X.exe
>        -lc.1 => /usr/lib/libc.so.1.7
>        -ldl.1 => /usr/lib/libdl.so.1.0

>Steinar Haug, system/networks administrator
>SINTEF DELAB, University of Trondheim, NORWAY
>Email: Steinar.Haug@delab.sintef.no, 
>	sthaug@idt.unit.no, steinar@tosca.er.sintef.no
Yup.  3.1a definitely runs under Solaris 2.  3.0 doesn't.
-- 
Steve Hanson - FERMILAB, Batavia, Il.
hanson@pogo.fnal.gov or hanson@fnal.fnal.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: moe@netcom.com (Morris Bisted)
Subject: monitor fuzziness (sun 3/60)
Organization: Netcom 
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 23:18:20 GMT

My 19 inch sun 3/60 monitor is getting to be a little fuzzy around the
edges. That is to say that the picture is clear in the center but somewhat
fuzzy or distorted within an inch or so of the edges.  The monitor was
made in 1988 and to my knowledge there has been no repair or maintenance
done to it. 

Does any body have any information on how to fix this problem? 

Thanks 
Morris ( moe@netcom.com or morris@isi.com)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: brooks@vinny.cecer.army.mil (Doug Brooks)
Subject: Re: Projection devices
Organization: US Army Corps of Engineers Construction Engineering Research Labs
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:47:38 GMT

In <4197@eastman.UUCP> nelson@that_machine.PPD.Kodak.COM (Bruce D. Nelson) writes:

>I am looking for information on devices to (1) hook up the output
>of a Sun (or preferably any vendor's) workstation to an existing
>SONY videoprojector setup or (2) find compatible LCD-type projection
>devices which fit on overhead projectors.

I've just recently evaluated a product from a company called 'In Focus'
systems.  They have a color LCD projection panel with a resolution of
1024x768 that can attach directly to a Sun workstation.  Though this
isn't quite up to the resolution of the Suns, which is 1152x900, it
is close enough for what I need.

We had the panel attached to a BriteLite IPX Laptop Workstation which
is a portable Sun IPX.  The panel can also hook up to PC's and Mac's.
The model number is the InFocus 7600XGA.

It was quite nice and also fairly expensive but we intend to go ahead
and purchase one.  We've been waiting for some time now for a high-
resolution unit to arrive that could interface with a Sun.  Don't
quote me on this one but I think the price was around 8K.  You will
still need to provide the overhead projector as well.  That isn't 
included in the price.

The contact I have is Kevin Figiel at 708-964-6060.  His company,
dcVAST, carries both the LCD panels and the BriteLite portables.

-- 
++  Doug Brooks                     ++  Internet Address:             ++
++  U.S. Army Corps of Engineers    ++  brooks@cecer.army.mil         ++
++  Champaign, IL                   ++  Phone: (217) 373-4433         ++
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: scoob@bnr.ca (Christian Marcotte)
Subject: 400 Meg Hard Disk recommendation ???
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ontario, Canada
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 02:45:48 GMT



Hi!

I'm looking for a good and cheap 400 Meg capacity hard drive
to put in a bunch of old 3/60 running SunOS-4.1.1

I'd like recommendations on what's reliable and cheap.
It is also important that it can be formated on the 3/60
(I have a couple of old scsi drives lying around here and some
 won't format on the 3/60).

Ideally, the drive would have an entry in the standard format.dat
otherwise I would appreciate if you forwarded the entry for the
drive you recommend.

If you had an ~idea~ of the price range, it would be welcome.

Please, don't tell me that 1Gig drive is a better deal, I know
but this is for "home" systems and must be cheap.

Thanks,
-- Scoob


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Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.hardware:6553 comp.sys.sun.admin:9807
From: morna@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Morna J Findlay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Hitcachi DK517C-37 - Format.dat needed  ( 3.7 GB one)
Date: 30 Dec 92 09:36:05 GMT
Reply-To: morna@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Morna J Findlay)
Organization: Laboratory for the Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh U

Hello all,
I'm hoping someone out there is at work today and can send me a
format.dat for the above disk to use on an SSII.

Thanks if you can,

cheers

M

-- 
Morna Findlay 					JANET:morna@uk.ac.ed.dcs 
	Thanksgiving For a National Victory (Robert Burns)
Ye hypocrites! are these your pranks? To murder men and give God thanks?
Desist, for shame! Proceed no further: God won't accept your thanks for murther.
Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.hardware:6583 comp.sys.sun.admin:9856 comp.unix.solaris:449
From: devil@HellNet.org (Gil Tene)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: SCSI drives that work with Solaris 2.1?
Date: 1 Jan 93 14:13:02 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Organization: Diablery, cloud seven, Hell. (also 10A Inc.)

Hello...

I've run into problems trying to get a Toshiba 1.2GB (formatted)
drive to work with Solaris 2.1 on an LX. I heard that Solaris 2.1
may have added some preformance boosts like using tag queuing, stuff
that 4.1.x was not doing, so drives that work with 4.1.x may not
work with Solaris 2.1.

I'd like to put together a list (which will ofcourse be summerized
and posted back here) of third party drives that DO work with Solaris
2.1. If you have definite knowledge of a Solaris 2.1 configuration
running on a third party SCSI drive, please e-mail me with the
exact model of the drive. No need to tell me about working Sun 
disks, as they [I should hope] will obviously work with Solaris 2.1.

I am especially interested in 3.5", ~1.2GB (formatted) drives, but
I'll summerize all the data that comes in.

AdvThanks,

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: grose@camax.com (Larry Grose)
Subject: Graphics performance of SS 10/30 GX
Summary: fast CPU, slow graphics
Organization: CAMAX Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 19:23:14 GMT

We have a CAD/CAM application, which is very graphics intensive, that is
behaving in strange ways on a Sparcstation 10/30 GX.  In particular, we are
seeing CPU performance about twice the speed of a Sparcstation 2, but our
overall graphics performance (both measured by internal benchmarks) on the
10/30 is about 2/3 the speed of a Sparc 2!

Our application is Sunview based and still uses the old pixwin graphics
library.  The Sparc 2 is running SunOS 4.1.1 and the Sparc 10/30 is running
SunOS 4.1.3.  We see the same results on the 10/30 under both Sunview and
Openwindows 3.0.  Both systems use GX graphics, whose performance is supposed
to scale up with CPU performance.  Not in this case.  The identical
executable was run on both systems (compiled and linked under 4.1.1, using
Sun ANSI C 1.1).

Has anyone else seen similar results?  Any ideas how there could be such a
large discrepancy between relative CPU and graphics performance?  The CPU
performance is slightly better than I expected based on comments from other
people (though still less than Sun's official benchmarks), but our
application does a lot of interactive graphics and our users' initial
reactions to the 10/30 has been quite negative.  We are in the process of
upgrading our Sunview/pixwin port, which may or may not give better results,
but that doesn't help current users.

-- 
-- Larry Grose / CAMAX Systems, Inc. / 612-854-5300 / grose@camax.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Subject: Re: Sun Exabyte 8500 driver wish
Reply-To: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 19:09:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.215040.11501@doug.cae.wisc.edu> orchard@eceserv0.ece.wisc.edu (Bruce Orchard) writes:
>
>From the 8500 user manual, it appears that the count of the number
>of retries is available with the REQUEST SENSE request (03H) in 
>bytes 16-18.  
>
>Wish:
>
>That the Exabyte driver log the retry counts and other interesting
>counts whenever the drive is closed.  

It already does log retry counts. Try doing an "mt -f /dev/nrstX status"
after the drive has been closed. One of the fields is "retries". Be sure to
use the non-rewinding device name.

Dunno about those other bytes, though. It's possible they may be firmware-
dependent, with different resellers doing different things, and therefore
useless for a generic driver.
-- 
Ruth Milner                          NRAO/VLA                  Socorro NM
Computing Division Head      rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu
From: robertw@informix.com (Robert Weinberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: CD drive compatability?
Date: 29 Dec 92 16:11:11 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

I have a PLI CD-ROM drive. It's ISO-compliant and works fine hooked to either a  
NeXT or a Macintosh. Will it install on a SPARC 1+ or IPX? Do I need 3rd-party  
driverware?

Thanks in advance for info - email preferred - I promise to snag the FAQ next time  
it hits our site . . .

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: njonker@cs.vu.nl (Jonker N)
Subject: Harddisk in Shoebox with SUN 3/50
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:30:53 GMT


We have a SUN 3/50 computer, with 4Mb ram and a shoebox with a
broken 190Mb Maxtor harddrive (MFM drive). When I took the shoebox
apart, I saw the controller for the MFM drive was simply connected
to an SCSI cable.. Is it possible to take the broekn drive and the 
comtroller out, and replace them by one SCSI harddrive? If so, would
a Seagate ST4766N (SCSI drive, 667 Mb) do if I plug it straight into 
tha cable where the controller for the harddrive used to be? If not,
is there any place where I can fnd large MFM drives?

Please reply in email (We don't get upfates on this group apperently)
to n_jonker@sacam.oren.ortn.edu

Thanks in advance,
Niels.
-- 
Niels Jonker, n_jonker@sacam.oren.ortn.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: elling@eng.auburn.edu (Richard Elling)
Subject: Re: Sun's GUI and OS mistakes (was Re: LX a
Reply-To: elling@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:13:30 GMT

In article 668@lokkur.dexter.mi.us, scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons) writes:
>At the LISA conference we had a Sun-Managers BOF.  I surveyed the
>audience and asked a number of leading questions (hey, it was my BOF :-))

I was at this BOF and it was very interesting.  However, to get more in
depth on the use of window systems I think the following questions should
be asked:

1. What window manager do you use?  olwm, olvwm, twm, tvwm, mwm, other.

The reasoning is that to ask someone if they use Motif or OpenLook is
pretty useless.  There are many apps that use one or the other or both.
So if the question is rephrased to be what window manager you use, I 
think that anything *virtual* is better than anything not, so olvwm and
tvwm would garner a lot of votes.

2. What GUI do your apps use?  openlook, motif, or other.

other would win this one hands down.

3. If OpenWindows were as fast as X11/R?, would you still hate it?

It seems that the biggest reason people dog OpenWindows is because of
its speed.  *If* Sun fixes that...


The biggest reason my organization supports OpenWindows is because of
AnswerBook.  I don't see how any large site can survive the onslaught
of paper manuals.  I count 89 books in my Solaris 2.1 merged answerbook
already.  We would run out of physical space and go broke if we had to
have hardcopy versions of those manuals for even a small subset of our
2300+ users.

---
 Richard Elling                          Manager of Network Support
 Auburn University                       Engineering Administration
 richard.elling@eng.auburn.edu   KB4HB [44.100.0.72]  (205)844-2280
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: steele@icd.teradyne.com (Alan Steele)
Subject: Re: POINTLESS SPECULATION re: Sunergy (SPAR
Reply-To: steele@icd.teradyne.com
Organization: Teradyne, Inc. Boston MA
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 17:56:58 GMT


If what has been said here is true, then SunExpert magazine is probably
only going to add to the confusion with their article on the classic/LX
in the Dec. 1992 issue.  On p. 6, they say:

"Rumor has it that the machine *will* run with Solaris 1.x, but very
slowly at best."

Comments?

-ams
From: lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: Sparc 2 panics with Fast SCSI/buffered ethernet installed
Date: 21 Dec 92 04:10:57 GMT
Organization: cic

gaarder@well.sf.ca.us (Steve Gaarder) writes:

>I have actually succeeded in getting a Fast SCSI/Buffered Ethernet (FSBE)
>card, but have not succeed in getting it to work.  When it is installed
>in my SparcStation 2, I get 2 errors.  During the probe time, the
>message "esp1: no dma controller" appears.  Later, I get:

>le1: panic: can't initialize chip

>and the system dumps core and halts.  I've talked to Sun tech support;
>sending me a new board didn't work, and now they're pretty clueless.
>Any clues?

I believe you need a driver upgrade with this card. It uses a different
controller chip. And, I believe, it is a slave device.

Which SunOS release are you running?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: jd@mars.nwc.navy.mil (John de la Garrigue)
Subject: Re: SCSI tape error
Reply-To: jd@mars.nwc.navy.mil
Organization: Science Applications International Corporation
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 22:58:56 GMT

In article 19960@athena.mit.edu, zhu@athena.mit.edu (Erin Zhu) writes:
>In an attempt to read some tar files from the SCSI tape drive (of a 
>Sparcstation 1), I keep getting the message "Media error: I/O error".
>A similar message showed up when I tried to use "dd".  Is there
>something wrong with the tape drive?  The tape reads and writes fine
>on another machine, so it shouldn't be the problem.
>
>  Thanks for any help.
>
>  --Erin

Can't give you any help, but I can commiserate.  I have this problem quite
often, particularly with QIC-24 tapes that read on some, but not all, QIC-150
drives.  I also have problems with writing a tape on one drive, reading it
OK on a second drive, and getting the I/O error message on a third drive.  It's
all very irritating, and common, from what I've heard.  Anyone with a solution?

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From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: How to id Super/Micro SPARC processors?
Date: 31 Dec 92 00:00:08 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>I've just received a SS10. Some confusion whether it's a Model
>20 or Model 30? Board says TMS390 . A list would be great.

Every SPARCstation 10 in the universe will probably say *that* (unless
Sun uses Pinnacle or M-1, or some other SPARC chip, in the future, on
SS10s).  A Viking^H^H^H^H^H^HSuperSPARC processor is a Texas Instruments
TMS390Z50, and a SuperSPARC cache controller chip is a TI TMS390Z55.

Unless you can find something on the board that indicates the clock rate
of the *processor* - the clock rate of the Mbus may, or may not, reflect
the clock rate of the processor - you may be out of luck.

A microSPARC is a TMS390S10, as I remember....
Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.hardware:6603 comp.sys.sun.misc:6107
From: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Sun 3/50 tape unit problems
Date: 3 Jan 93 14:23:10 GMT
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.

Hello world!

	First let me tell you that this group is not received at my site, so I  
prefer any answer on this question by e-mail.

	Here is the situation:

I inherited a Sun 3/50 with a nonworking tape unit and a 60-70MB Micropolis disk.  
I'd like to get the thing operational again. I have manuals and a case of 60MB  
tapes, including SunOS 3.5. I'd like to replace the Micropolis with a Maxtor 83xxS  
I have lying around here (340MB).

	I need some help diagnosing the problem with the tape first. When i boot,  
the tape is seen on the SCSI port. It sees the tape unit as st0 after it has  
detected the Micropolis at sd0. Like this:

	sd0 at si0 slave 0
	sd0: <Micropolis 1325 cyl 1022 alt 2 hd 8 sec 17>
	st0 at si0 slave 32
	zs0 at obio etc. etc.

	When the machine was operational at its previous location, the tape would  
not do anything but give error messages like "Tape not loaded" when trying to do  
anything with it (just trying to load a tape would give that message, even before  
trying to let any program get to it). Currently, the tape unit just hangs.
	I opened the tape/disk case and as far as I can see the tape is loaded  
correctly, but it does not do anything else.

	I am not very experienced with Sun 3 machines, but I bet many of you out  
there are. For instance, if I see those boot messages I wonder: sd0 at SCSI  
Interface 0 slave 0 sounds OK to me, but slave 32 for the tape sounds suspicious.  
Shouldn't that be a number between 1 and 6? Shouldn't I also see a message like  
st0: <Wangtek etc. etc.>? Is the SCSI interface of the tape unit broken? Or did I  
push the SCSI-connector in the wrong connector (SCSI in)? Or should I check with a  
different cable? How can I diagnose this?

	And when the tape unit works (or has been replaced or whatever) can I use  
my Maxtor instead of the Micropolis? It is a Maxtor XT-8380S if I recall correctly.

Thanks in advance for any advice,

--Gerben
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  From the Talmud(?), rephrased in Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland".
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: bkc2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Benjamin Clardy)
Subject: ELC monitor growing dim
Reply-To: bkc2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:58:24 GMT

A while back I remember seeing a discussion on problems with ELC
(and/or SLC) monitors slowly growing dim.  I am having this problem
now.  What was the consensus on what to do?  Where is a good place
to get the monitor serviced?

Thanks,

Benjamin
-- 
Benjamin Clardy					bkc2@midway.uchicago.edu
From: mark@spider.co.uk (Mark Valentine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: Why is Sun abandoning SunOS4.1.3?
Date: 24 Dec 92 14:11:41 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK

In article <16064@auspex-gw.auspex.com> guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris) writes:
>"Adding RFS support" is definitely not an improvement of SunOS 5.x over
>SunOS 4.x... 
>
>...because SunOS 4.1[.x] already *had* RFS support.

...and they're taking it away again in 5.x :-)

		Mark.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: btaplin@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (bradley richard taplin)
Subject: Anyone used SparcClassic and/or the Solaris 2.1 included with it?
Summary: Curious about the new Sparc, Solaris 2.1,if hard drive is enough.
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 15:00:30 GMT

	Hello. I recently read the "real low-end" article in a late-fall
	issue of SunExpert and am curious about the new SparcClassic. Is
	16 mb RAM, a 207 mb hard drive, and Solaris 2.1 a good standalone
	package? Would it be possible to develop using GNU C or Sun's C?
	C++ as well? Scheme? Could this become a "home server" providing
	terminal access from a Macintosh and/or DOS box in other rooms?

	An alternative in my mind is a fast 486. Dell can preload their
	UNIX S5R4 for a very reasonable sum, bringing the total cost
	hardware plus operating system to under what the SparcClassic
	now goes for, and Dell's newer systems are Pentium-upgradeable.

	Moving down the cost levels, I understand Tenon's MachTen is a
	full implementation of Mach UNIX for about $600 and up that I
	could run on the Mac LCII 4/80 we currently have at home. We
	might require a little more memory and/or storage. Opinions?

	Finally, has anyone used Coherent 4.x? I intend to learn UNIX
	but finances are very tight right now, so I figure a 386 with
	Coherent (total system+OS under $1000) might be a good start.
	I mean to become a competent UNIX sysadmin, in practice and I
	hope by profession, so might a 386 be inadequate for my needs?

	Thanks for your time. Please e-mail to btaplin@ucs.indiana.edu.
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