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From: ecsgrt@luxor.latrobe.edu.au (Geoffrey Tobin)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: MFpic and transfig?
Keywords: mfpic, metafont, transfig, fig2dev
Date: 4 Oct 92 03:57:49 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University

Anthony J. Starks (ajs@msdrl.com) is developing "fig2mf" and
"fig2mfpic".

fig2mf converts Fig 2.1 to mfpic's graphbase metafont macros, so it
doesn't handle text.  The graphics objects are shaping up.  :-)
The code is presently one 10 K byte, 600 line, K&R C file.

fig2mfpic uses the TeX front-end of mfpic, so text is within its
purview.

Mail Anthony if you'd like to help.  When replying, watch out for his
"bang" paths.

Geoffrey Tobin   ecsgrt@luxor.latrobe.edu.au
From: ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Tex and tables; is tbl a very good idea?
Date: 3 Oct 1992 11:34:20 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: almaak.usc.edu

On the subject of tables: Is tbl considered a good language for
specifying tables?  If so, is it a good idea imagining a awk program
which translates something like tbl into tex?  Another route to an
implementation of tbl may be to use the (presumably lex/yacc) parser
written by the folks who wrote groff.

        -ans.
-- 
Ajay Shah, (213)749-8133, ajayshah@usc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Subject: Re: Underlining in TeX.
Reply-To: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan Math Dept
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:31:42 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.210730.27004@lsa.umich.edu> Hal.Varian@umich.edu writes:
> I want to be able to underline math for fill-in-the-blank questions.  
> 
> I write:
> 
> \Exercise The square of $x$ is \Ans{x^2}.
> 
> TeX prints out:
> 
> Exercise 1. The square of x is ___________.
> 
> OR
>                         
> Exercise 1. The square of x is _____x^2______.
> 
> depending on whether some flag is set.
> 
> I've hacked together a solution for a workbook + solution manual that I do,  
but  
> it would be nice to have it done right.
> 
> If anybody has some suggestions, please let me know.

I should have made it clear in this post that short answers
(ie, that fit in an hbox) are no problem.  The problem comes
when you have line breaks.  The way I do it now is with
short lines and discretionary breaks, so that lines can break.

For example,

Exercise.  Explain the Universe and give examples._____________

_______________________________________________________________

_______________________________________________________________.

Some answers are words, some are math and words, etc.  See T. Bergstrom 
and H. Varian, "Microeconomic Workouts", Second Edition, W. W. Norton & Co.,  
1990 to see what this looks like.  The teacher's manual has the 
blanks filled in, but you can only get that if you adopt the book.

Thanks to everyone who sent me mail saying "put it in an \hbox."
Alas, it's more complicated than that....
--
Hal.Varian@umich.edu    Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364     Dept of Economics
fax:   313-764-2364     Univ of Michigan
                        Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: snrxu@susssys1.reading.ac.uk (Xu Shi-lin)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Landscape / multicolumn output
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:49:13 GMT
Organization: University of Reading

Could you tell me how to produce landscape with just two 
columns first?  I am trying to print a C program in that
format.

Cheers
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From: mroth@afit.af.mil (Mark A. Roth)
Subject: equations with custom numbers
Originator: mroth@wb8
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:22:45 GMT

In LaTeX, "\eqalign eliminated, since it is replaced by the
eqnarray environment".  We have a student that wants to use an
eqnarray environment but substitute equation numbers with references
to previous equations.   Something like:

   x = y          (20)
   z = w          (13)
  2x = 3q         (25)


The following works for single equations:

$$ x = y \eqno{\hbox{\ref{prev}}}$$


But the following gives the strange message that \eqno cannot be used in
math mode:

\begin{eqnarray}
 x & = & y \eqno{\hbox{\ref{prev}}}\\
 a & = & b \eqno{\hbox{\ref{ptwo}}}
\end{eqnarray}


Any ideas?

Mark Roth
mroth@afit.af.mil

Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: rhl@grendel.Princeton.EDU (Robert Lupton the Good)
Subject: Re: \skewchar --> \skew
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:42:41 GMT


The problem with \skew is that it has to be fiddled for a particular
character. It doesn't help if you want to define \hhat to put two ^s
on top of a character. I fought with this for a while, and ended up with:

\mathchardef\hatmark="705E	% the accent used in setting \hat
\def\hhat#1{%	This \hhat isn't perfect as it ignores skewchar and guesses
	    %	its skew correction. I wish that I knew how to do better...
   	{\setbox0=\hbox{$\hat{#1}$}\setbox1=\hbox{$\hatmark$}%
	\dimen0=\wd0\advance\dimen0 by -0.1em
	\dimen1=\ht0\advance\dimen1 by -\ht1\advance\dimen1 by -0.05em
	#1
	\Smash{\kern-\dimen0\raise\dimen1\hbox{$\hatmark$}}%
	\advance\dimen1 by 0.15em
	\kern-\dimen0\raise\dimen1\hbox{$\hatmark$}}}

which more-or-less works. I couldn't find a way to get at the skewchar
of the current font.

-- 

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(609) 683 8252 (Home)					(609) 258 3811 (Work)
From: walsh%ibis@cs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Underlining in TeX.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 08:27:34 -0400
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

Wolfgang Ratzka writes:
> Francis Hartojo:
> >     I just have a quick question for TeXnicians out there, what is the most
> >elegant way to do underlining in TeX?  I tried to used the \underbar macro
>
> In fact underlining flowing text in a paragraph should be a pretty
> tough task. One relatively clean solution would be to create a font,
> that has the underlining in it. (One might try to do this using the
> virtual font mechanism...). Still this would not take care of the
> spaces, so the single words would be underlined (as many old word
> processors do it).

Actually, couldn't you handle the spaces (presuming that you placed an
underlined space at position 32 of the font) by making the space an
active character and causing it to output \char32?

                                                  Be seeing you...
                                                    norm
---
Norman Walsh         | University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA 01003
<walsh@cs.umass.edu> | COINS Dept., LGRC A210 | Standard disclaimer applies
"It's easy for me to block things out."  -- J. Danforth Quayle, 12-JAN-92

Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: niu@prancer.eche.ualberta.ca (Shaohua Niu)
Subject: Re: ISPELL
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 19:53:08 GMT

Is there really a MSDOS version of the ispell? Where is it then?

Many thanks if someboby can provide some information.
From: sigurdg@ifi.uio.no (Sigurd Gl{rum)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Ghostscript
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:35:08 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Originator: sigurdg@brenna.ifi.uio.no


Sorry if this is a bit on the side, posted it in comp.lang.postscript
without getting any response so I thought I might try my luck in
this group:

Wanted to get hold of Ghostscript for DOS and/or MS-Windows and
found the following files on funic.funet.fi:

211fnts1.lzh  211fnts2.lzh  211fnts3.lzh  211fnts4.lzh
24avantg.zip  24bookmn.zip  24chartr.zip  24courer.zip
24courob.zip  24helvtc.zip  24hershy.zip  24paltno.zip
24schlbk.zip  24symbls.zip  24times.zip   24utopia.zip
24zaphc.zip   25chartr.zip  25courer.zip  25utopia.zip
chpsf301.zip  dvips386.lzh  dvips54.zip   dvipslib.zip
gs252286.zip  gs252386.zip  gs252ini.zip  gs252win.zip
pc2ps11.lzh   pcps710.zip   pps213.zip    pscroswd.lzh
psfix301.zip  samples.zip

The index file in this catalog (/pub/msdos/printers/postscript) is
not up to date so now I wondered if some kind soul could tell me
what files I have to get hold of in order to run Ghostscript under
DOS and (/or) Win31.  I have a 486 and no fonts installed at present.


Sigurd Gl{rum
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: hank@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: Translating from refer to bibtex
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 00:23:55 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.161153.28158@infolog.se>, Ulf Sundin <ulf@gbg.infolog.se> writes:
> I'm moving from troff/refer to TeX,
> and I need to translate my refer-database to
> bibtex format.

There was a recent post on this. I have not tested any of these solutions.
--darrel hankerson hank@ducvax.auburn.edu

Subject: Re: Help - refer to bibtex
From: jacobsd@prism.cs.orst.edu (Dana Jacobsen)
Date: 28 May 92 16:59:04 GMT

In <1992May27.210931.19979@umbc3.umbc.edu> anastasi@umbc4.umbc.edu
(Mr. Thomas A. Anastasio; CMSC) writes:

>My bibliography file is in refer format.  I have begun to write using
>latex.
>What's available to help in using refer format biblios with latex?
>Could be as simple as just a translator from refer to bibtex.  Preferably
>would allow refer-style citations in my latex document (so I won't have
>to come up with a label for each reference in my biblio).

  A couple refer to bibtex translators exist that I know of, one written
in emacs lisp (refer-to-bibtex.el), and one written as a sh/sed/awk combo
(ref2bib).  I tried both of these and didn't really like either of them
(I don't want to run emacs or have 3 programs around), so I wrote my own
in perl.  It does a better job than either of these, IMHO.  I have tested
it with our 3000 or so entries of refer database, and it does a fairly
good job (better than the other two, certainly).  This is still a
pre-release (I haven't done the final debugging or the manual page), but
I will try to fix any bugs you find.

[text deleted]
  # r2b : convert a refer database to a BiBTeX database
  # Copyright 1992, Dana Jacobsen (jacobsd@cs.orst.edu)

[text deleted]
From: Wolfgang Ratzka <wolfgang.ratzka@rphs1.physik.uni-regensburg.de>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Underlining in TeX.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 14:06:21 +0100
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

Norman Walsh writes:
   Actually, couldn't you handle the spaces (presuming that you placed an
   underlined space at position 32 of the font) by making the space an
   active character and causing it to output \char32?

Wouldn't this interfere with TeX's linebreaking algorithm?

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From: gbol@rglnext.geol.vt.edu (Gregory B. Lampshire)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: how to determine the smallest box to enclose a displayed formula (REPOST)
Date: 26 Sep 92 19:39:54 GMT
Reply-To: gbol@rglnext.geol.vt.edu




I would like to create a box whose width is that sufficient to snuggly  
enclose a display formula.  A snug box is created in horizontal mode when  
you just use $blah$, but it is important for me to determine the smallest  
enclosing box in display math mode.

I am attempting to find the smallest box for a display equation so I can  
rotate it and stick it on a page by itself using a float.  However, 


\newbox\myeqnbox
\global\setbox\myeqnbox=\hbox
\bgroup\ignorespaces\vbox\bgroup
\begin{displaymath} % latex stuff, but behavoir same with $$
x^2+y^2=9
\end{displaymath}
\hrule
\egroup
\egroup


\Rotateleft  % pstricks stuff
\box\myeqnbox
\endRotateleft


This creates a rotated box correctly but the rotated part is pushed far  
down the page because the displayed equation box has a wdith that of the  
page (I measured it with TeXview).  Also, the rule clearly shows that I  
need a smaller box and it shows me just how wide the box is on the paper.   
Unfortunately, doing a \vbox to 100pt will make a small box but the rule  
(which is still the width of the paper) will continue as before  
overwriting whatever text is above it (remember it is rotated).

So what I need to do is get that snug box around the formula so that I can  
then properly move the rotated text around on the page without that extra  
blank space to the right of the formula.

The overall reason I am trying to do this is to create a new float  
environment which can display very wide formulas in landscape mode.  But  
even in landscape mode the formulas are too big so I am using pstricks to  
scale the formulas down so that it just fits into \textheight.  To make it  
just fit into \textheight I need the minimum width of the equation box so  
I can set the scale factor to   \textheight / <snug width of eqn box>.  I  
want the left edge of the equations to be at the bottom of the page (which  
it would if it was scaled to just fit into \textheight).  Now since the  
formula is too wide, the box that is created has a width of a portrait  
line of text which is not the info I need to do the scaling correctly.

--
Gregory Lampshire 
Virginia Tech 
Bradley Department of Electrical Engineering
gbol@rglnext.geol.vt.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
------------------------
My opinions are my very own and do not reflect the opinions of any  
employer
From: baumgart@masg6.epfl.ch (Marcel Baumgartner)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: mpage and dvitps
Date: 2 Oct 92 12:48:10 GMT
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology

Hello,
mpage is a wonderful tool to put several postscript pages on one page
of paper. Unfortunately, mpage cannot convert files created with
dvitps on the basis of LaTeX .dvi files. Is this a known bug, or do I
have to use another dvi-to-postscript converter? Or are their even
other tools in order to use a little less paper.  Thanks!!

Bye                          Marcel
From: carlisle@cs.man.ac.uk (David Carlisle)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: equations - and math mode-HELP-!!!!
Date: 2 Oct 92 10:48:18 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester
In-reply-to: 6500zxz@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu's message of 1 Oct 92 07:11:35 GMT


>>>>> On 1 Oct 92 07:11:35 GMT, 6500zxz@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Sitaram Ramaswaamy) said:


Sitaram> \begin{equation}


Sitaram> \nabla \cdot \hat{\bf u}

Sitaram> % ^-- the above does not seem to function as it should. and seems to
Sitaram> % left flush the equation to give
Sitaram> % \nabla \cdot \hat{\bf u}(0.1)  where 0.1 is the equation label 

Sitaram> % HOWEVER
Sitaram> % $$\nabla \cdot \hat{\bf u}$$ <- this works without any problems
Sitaram> %
Sitaram> \end{equation}


The problem is that you have a blank line (ie an end of paragraph (aka
\par)) *inside* the equation environment. If you remove them
everything works OK.


\begin{equation}
%
\nabla \cdot \hat{\bf u}
%
% ^-- the above does not seem to function as it should. and seems to
% left flush the equation to give
% \nabla \cdot \hat{\bf u}(0.1)  where 0.1 is the equation label 
%
% HOWEVER
% $$\nabla \cdot \hat{\bf u}$$ <- this works without any problems
%
\end{equation}

TeX's error merror message was trying to tell you this, although as is
often the case with TeX messages, unless you understood the problem,
you probably wouldn't understand the eror message!

Sitaram> ! Missing $ inserted.
Sitaram> <inserted text>
Sitaram>                 $
Sitaram> <to be read again>
Sitaram>                    \par
Sitaram> l.9

You see? \begin{equation} expands to some code which, among other
things starts off display math with $$.
When TeX saw the blank line, it converted it to \par, and then decided
that \par should not occur in math mode, and so told you that it was
going to insert a $ to get out of math mode

Sitaram> <inserted text>
Sitaram>                 $

And then, once out of math-mode was going to try again to do the
end-of paragraph caused by the blank-line.

Sitaram> <to be read again>
Sitaram>                    \par

David
--
                           David Carlisle
                                    JANET: carlisle@uk.ac.man.cs

                                    Computer Science Department
                                    Manchester University
                                    Oxford Road
                                    Manchester
                                    England
                                    M13 9PL
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: hfaester@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Hannes Faestermann)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: dvi2xxx sources anywhere...?
Date: 1 Oct 92 11:43:33 GMT
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)

schli@cs.tu-berlin.de (Wolfram Schlickenrieder) writes:

>	Hi ...

>	I'd like to write two dvi drivers (dvi2epson & dvi2necp6),
>	because I want to use TeX under Linux, and the only drivers
>	contained in the package are dvi2ps & dvi2hplj2p.  Since I
>	have neither of these, and since none of the two drivers I
>	could make use of semms to be available anywhere I guess I
>	have to do it myself.

>	So: Ifn anyone out there could mail me the (C) source code of a dvi
>	driver for, say, some dot matrix printer that I can modify for
>	my own needs (and post it, if there's interest, of course), I
>	would greatly appreciate that...

Maybe it's easier if you get ghostscript and use it as a filter.
As I remember this should have been ported to Linux already.
So you would use dvips to get the PostScript file and filter that
through ghostscript.

	Hannes
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From: sdc+@cs.cmu.edu (Steven Douglas Cochran)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: tables
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:16:50 GMT

In article <1ak1g3INN4lv@almaak.usc.edu> ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) writes:
>This is a summary of tables in a TeXy world.  It is mostly based on
>the TeX-Index.  I have used a few of the options as well.
> ...
>It does not do tables > 1 page.  It does not have decimal alignment.
> ...
>Ajay Shah, (213)749-8133, ajayshah@usc.edu

	It may not be pretty, but in all of the styles you can enter
numbers with preceeding \phantom{0} 's and left-justify the numbers to
achieve a pseudo-decimal alignment.

	Steve
-- 
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Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh, PA  15213
Email: Steven_Cochran@CS.CMU.EDU (128.2.222.173)
Phone: (Office) 412-268-5654 (Home) 412-422-4350
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: schli@cs.tu-berlin.de (Wolfram Schlickenrieder)
Subject: dvi2xxx sources anywhere...?
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 10:55:20 GMT


	Hi ...

	I'd like to write two dvi drivers (dvi2epson & dvi2necp6),
	because I want to use TeX under Linux, and the only drivers
	contained in the package are dvi2ps & dvi2hplj2p.  Since I
	have neither of these, and since none of the two drivers I
	could make use of semms to be available anywhere I guess I
	have to do it myself.

	So: Ifn anyone out there could mail me the (C) source code of a dvi
	driver for, say, some dot matrix printer that I can modify for
	my own needs (and post it, if there's interest, of course), I
	would greatly appreciate that...

	...Wolfram
From: re@giordano.enpc.fr (Rolf EBERT)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: How do make bold font in math mode?
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:31:45 GMT
Organization: Ecole Nationale des Ponts et Chaussees

Apologies if you already saw this article. Our news-server doesn't always
work as it shoud :-(


We recently changed the LaTeX version on our SPARCstations from 

  This is TeX, C Version 2.95
  LaTeX Version 2.09 <4 Aug 1988>

to 

  This is TeX, C Version 3.14t3
  LaTeX Version 2.09 <7 Dec 1989>

and we experienced a problem with bold font in math style.

e.g.: ${\bf x} = {(x_1, x_2, x_3)}^T$
The bold printed x left of the equal sign should indicate a vector. 

When using the new version, the x does *NOT* get boldprinted, though it does when
using olatex instead of latex at the command line.

Please answer by e-mail to ebert@enpc.fr. I'll summarize for the net.

Rolf

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From: asnd@erich.triumf.ca (Donald Arseneau)
Subject: Re: ULEM.STY, multi-line underline in plain tex, macros
Summary: small bug fix in ulem 
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: ulem.sty \hfill plain TeX underlining
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 09:03:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.080558.1@homer.ds.boeing.com>, garys@homer.ds.boeing.com writes...
>Multiple recent requests for underlining capability under this topic
>lead me to post this excellent set of underlining macros, ULEM.STY
>usable with plain tex (not requiring postscript).
>See FAQ. This is available also by anonymous ftp from Niord.SHSU.edu
>(192.92.115.8) in directory [.sty]

...

>    \def\hfil{\hskip\z@ plus1fil\relax}\def\hfill{\hskip\fill}%
                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is a bug for plain TeX usage because \fill is undefined.
I've changed that line to:

    \def\hfil{\hskip\z@ plus1fil\relax}\def\hfill{\hskip\z@ plus1fill\relax}%

and added in the end-comments:

%  1992a: fix definition of \hfill for plain TeX (found by Esther Hu).
%  The bug finders' fee is now $0.00; it will double for each new bug found.

I am just submitting the revision to the SHSU archive now, so
don't try grabbing it for a day or so.  If anyone is in a hurry, I can
send it or you can make the change yourself.

No, I will not post the whole file to usenet again!

Donald Arseneau       asnd@reg.triumf.ca
From: "Daniel H. Luecking" <DL24794@UAFSYSB.UARK.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: (None)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 92 14:02:59 CDT
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

      Re: Re: Mainz documentation

A few days ago I posted a query about why LaTeXing the documentation
for the packages nfss, multicol and doc from Mainz should take so long
(roughly one minute per page on a 386 PC with emTeX's tex186 beta5)

I was told by one respondent to upgrade to emTeX's tex386 beta8. I have, but
I time it to be about twice as fast as tex186 at most (but this is REALLY
GREAT for most purposes) so my 2 hour plus latexing of doc.drv would at best
be cut down to 1 hour.

Actually I didn't post to find out how to shorten the time (it is after all
already done!) but to find out what was taking so long. Two respondants
(one of them R. Schoepf himself) said the problem was in the indexing
and one indirectly pointed that way when he said he didn't make the index
and it didn't go as slow as it had for me. Schoepf gave the
following `solution'

> replace
>
>\EnableCrossrefs
>
>by
>
>\DisableCrossrefs
>
>in the .drv file.
>

He didn't say when to do that, but from a look at the .drv file (now that I
know where to look and what the things found there mean!) it seems that if
you want the index you do it after the first pass.

Thus, upgrading emTeX and following the above advice would still give
a slow first pass of ~30 minutes. In my opinion this is long enough that
THE README FILE SHOULD EXPLAIN ALL THIS.  Maybe people not bogged
down on a desktop PC don't have these problems, but a LOT of us do.

Anyway, thanks to all who responded.

Dan Luecking
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