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From: kimmel@epx.cis.umn.edu (Eric Kimmel)
Subject: Re: NEW J.PRIEST SONG!!!!!!!
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:28:33 GMT

In article <l98u0gINNf0@earth.cs.utexas.edu> eric@cs.utexas.edu (Eric Thomas Brown) writes:
>	I'm not sure what song the guy heard with Halford on vocals, as
>I haven't heard it, but I can verify that he did come to Dallas and record
>a lot of stuff with Pantera.  Some of that stuff should show up on his
>solo record.  I can't wait to hear that, as a guy I met who was there in
>the studio said it was just amazing.  He said they recorded over an hour's
>worth of material together.  He also told me that Pantera is soon to be
>releasing an hourlong video of assorted live footage.  Pretty cool.
>
Rob Halford did a song for some movie soundtrack.  I've never heard it, but it
might be that.

The Halford/Pantera stuff sounds cool.  Hope a lot of it shows up on record..


>				Eric Brown
>				eric@cs.utexas.edu
>
-Rick
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From: redfreak@softcopy.ecn.purdue.edu (Thomas Lobonc)
Subject: Re: NEW J.PRIEST SONG!!!!!!!
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:43:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.011030.22178@cs.wayne.edu> bhh@artemis.cs.wayne.edu (Bhaskar Holur) writes:
>
>	I heard a new song on ZROCK's UNDERGROUND INVASION  ...The singer was Rob
>	Halford of Judas Priest..but the music sounded like thrash/speed metal much
>	unlike that by the group (J.Priest)..I was not able to hear what song or
>	by which group the song was!! But it was definitely Rob Halford's great
>	voice..and I faintly heard/thought that he must have been playing with 
>	"PANTERA" in that song!
>
>	Could somebody recognize the song for me!!!

Yes, it is off Halford's new solo album, and yes, it is with Pantera (the
song, not the album, I think)
Tom

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From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Paul Di'anno, Diamond Head
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 06:04:34 GMT

Finished listening to Paul Di'anno's Battlezone's CHILDREN OF MADNESS. Cool
album. I have no idea what the music critics in fanzines are saying about 
Di'anno bands sounding like Maiden because he doesn't even sound the same
on this album. Pretty original, pretty good overall. If you can find it,
get it. Killers' MURDER ONE must rank among the best of 1992 with the
aforementioned Black Sabbath, Danzig, and Iron Maiden. Again, it doesn't sound
at all like Maiden, not even the fourth rendition of "Remember Tomorrow."
Much heavier than what was on the first album, although I wish it was as fast
as on the MAIDEN JAPAN EP. It's much thrashier than I expected, I guess in 
sound like Raven (John Gallagher is mentioned in the credits somewhere), 
but very traditional heavy metal sound. I'd stick Killers in with Manowar or
Warrior, or something of that nature. Great album.

I also got Diamond Head's THE FRIDAY ROCK SHOW SESSIONS album. Diamond Head
is so incredible. "Sucking My Love" is my favorite DH song of all time. Well,
there's also "Don't Ever Leave Me Baby" and "Borrowed Time," plus "Shoot Out
The Lights," "Sweet And Innocent," "I Don't Got," "Am I Evil?" Heck, I like
them all. Those of you who've only heard of them via Metallica covers of
"Helpless," "The Prince," and "Am I Evil?" I think that if you listen to the
originals you never want to listen to Metallica again. That's what happened to
me. I think they're that good.

philip
"Washington Boulevard, east-bound. Thirty-three...Can I get a transfer, man?
Ninety-five cents?! FUCK YOU I'LL SKATE TO THE BEACH, AND I'LL LOOK BETTER
GETTING THERE!!!" - Faith No More, "Death March"
e-mail Philip Wang at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
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From: hopkins@agora.uucp (Scott Hopkins)
Subject: Re: Motly Cru
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 05:30:01 GMT

In article <wdejag.5@elaine.ee.und.ac.za> wdejag@elaine.ee.und.ac.za (WAYNE DE JAGER : THIRD) writes:
>Does any-one know whats happening to Motly Cru ?
>Back here in R.S.A. we only get the news 1 year later 
>but I've heard rumours that Vince Neil has accepted a
>contract to do motor racing.
>
>If this is true I will be in mourning
>Please .reply if you know the latest news.
>
	Well, I read an interview with Neil, and he said the motor-racing
excuse was a lie.  He did recently release a solo single "You're invited
But Your Friends Can't Come" on the Encino Man soundtrack, so who knows?
	As for the Crue, I heard they picked up a replacment.  The lead
singer for the group The Scream, John Corabi will be Neil's replacment.  He
doesn't sound at all like Vince, so it might be interesting.  But in the
meantime, I'm gonna miss him in The Scream.

			-Casey
	"Ostracized, but that's all right.
	I was just thinking about something myself"d4of something myself."
					-Axl Roseg

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From: cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: Napalm Death and Deathdir
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 12 Aug 92 04:56:48 PDT

In article <1992Aug5.185541.22062@news.columbia.edu>, pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
> I really wanted to see Napalm Death and Carcass (ND headlining) here in NY,
> but my friend says that it's not really Napalm Death, just four new guys and
> an old guy from Napalm Death using that name and playing their songs (ie
> massive lineup wipeout and replacements), and most importantly, Mick Harris
> (one of my favorite thrash / death / whateveryoucallit drummers) isn't in the
> new lineup. Is Barney? Is this the lineup on UTOPIA BANISHED? Gee, just when
> I was starting to get into them.
> 
> Also, I hear the guy in Death (the only one still in the band after also 
> lineup wipeouts) is putting Death off for a while and doing other weird stuff
> like industrial or maybe more commercial things? Anyone attest to these rumors?
> I liked that one song that came up on Headbanger's Ball back in May (background
> was all blue and there wasn't much happening other than the band playing).
> Is Death really good or really bad? I hear both comments.
> 
> philip
> 
> 
> 
> "Washington Boulevard, east-bound. Thirty-three...Can I get a transfer, man?
> Ninety-five cents?! FUCK YOU I'LL SKATE TO THE BEACH, AND I'LL LOOK BETTER
> GETTING THERE!!!" - Faith No More, "Death March"
> e-mail Philip Wang at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu

	I dunno about the status of Death, but I found a first in a record
stores:  A Death "greatest hits" album.  WHAT THE HELL?
	Schuldiner's last lineup produced a damn fine album, all of which is
the quality of "Lack of Comprehension," which I seem to recall was the song
that made it to MTV.  Whatever he does, he'll do well...and look for CYNIC's
release if they ever get signed (that being the band Schuldiner borrowed some
members from).
From: bane@vtx.ma.man.ac.uk) (M i c h a e l ;-)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Thanks for your help!
Date: 13 Aug 92 08:37:40 GMT
Reply-To: bane@vtx.ma.man.ac.uk
Organization: Magic Michael's Mushroom Factory.

In article <1992Aug12.164538.23201@news.columbia.edu>, pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:

|> By the way, Viv Campbell plays Steamin's solos almost verbatim. You know how
|> like in Iron Maiden Adrian's solos don't sound like Dennis Strattons' or
|> Tony Parsons, etc. 


ummm I might be a little out of touch but who's Tony Parsons? [NB I gave up following
all IM;s details a few yrs ago]


Michael aka whoops wrong newsgroup
From: robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Spaztik Children
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:53:45 GMT
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Inc.

"Judex" sez (in reply to a guy in Denmark's question--I couldn't answer
Denmark via E-mail so here goes):

> Spastic Children appears to have been something they did in a garage 
> when they were bored. No recordings were ever made, that they will 
> admit to anyway and they dropped the project, supposedly because they 
> didn't want to be accused of imitating Anthrax/SOD. SC was apparently 
> not all that serious...

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzt (partially...)!!!!  Spaztik Children, which featured
among others at times:  Jaymz, Cliff, Jim Martin (Faith No More), 
Larry LaLonde (Primus), Jayson Newsted, and many others, *did* put out
a very limited release vinyl entitled "Proud Drunks Live".  I can't find
it anywhere, though.  [I posted about this band in detail a few months
ago.]       

They also got beyond the "garage" stage, as I have seen them twice:  at
The Farm in San Francisco and The Omni in Oakland.

The music was completely friggin' inane, the show was stoooooopid both
times (they were just falling down drunk, basically...at one time, Jaymz
knocked over the drumset where he was sitting when he leaned forward to
take a bow, so there was a break while it got set back up).

And I don't know about them "dropping the project because of comparisons
with Anthrax/SOD", because I last saw them in, like, January of '90 in
Oakland, long after SOD was old news.

Just my $.04/200...

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From: Curt.Shehow@p33.f75.n3603.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Curt Shehow)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Savatage from the grave...
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 00:50:08 EDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3603/75.33 - Psycho.FidoNet.Org, Clearwater FL

 al183@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Sara Kathryn DeLong) writes :

 >    So is Savatage officially gone?  Their last album really seemed
 > to have something going.  Then I caught them live (last winter) and
 > the performance was sorry at best -- Jon Oliva was basicly just
 > going through the motions and was more than a little rude to the
 > crowd.  It was no surprise that they broke up, but is that it?

 Huh? What? When did that happen? Last word I heard was that Jon Oliva
was going to do some solo thing and then Savatage would get back together
and record a new record.
                       Cs.


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From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Thanks for your help!
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:45:38 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.140732.176@crc.ac.uk> naffara@crc.ac.uk (Dr. N.A. Affara) writes:
>After my request for some albums that were worth buying I went out and bought
>some!
>I found a cd from Girlschool which had the albums Demolition and Hit and run
>on. This was better than I expected. The best songs (in my opinion) are
>Breakdown, (I'm your)Victim, and Yeah right! You may disagree but I don't care!
>These are quite old albums (about 1980) have they released any more?
>I have found another one called Girlschool Collection (I think) which has got
>about 20 songs from their first 4 albums (I might have got this wrong as well!)
WHERE DID YOU GET THAT DISC? PLEASE GIVE ME AN ADDRESS AND/OR TELEPHONE NUMBER!
Girlschool has had lots of albums: Demolition (1980), Hit And Run (1981),
Motorschool: St. Valentine's Day Massacre (1981 Girlschool/Motorhead effort),
Screaming Blue Murder (1982), Play Dirty (1983). Running Wild (1985, with a
new lead singer from Canis Major, Kim doing just guitars, and Kelly leaving
*sob* and replaced by Cris Bonacci), Nightmare At Maple Cross (1987), and
Take A Bite (1989).
>
>I already had Adrenalize and Hysteria from Def Leppard so I got Pyromania and
>On Through The Night. I put on OTTN first and thought I had bought the wrong 
>cd! It sounded nothing at all like the ones I had already. After a few more 
>plays I was convinced it was the same group. I have heard some people say
>that if you like Hysteria and Adrenalize you are some kind of wimp and won't
>like their earlier stuff. Well this is crap. I am not a wimp and I like *all*
>their songs from all their albums.
>
By the way, Viv Campbell plays Steamin's solos almost verbatim. You know how
like in Iron Maiden Adrian's solos don't sound like Dennis Strattons' or
Tony Parsons, etc. Well, this is cool, here, because the spirit of the song
stays the same, and live it kicks butt. "Make Love Like A Man" and "Have You
Ever Needed Someone So Bad" I thought were the most lame Leppard songs ever,
but hearing them live, they make it actually enjoyable. Phil Collen is good.
The "Hysteria" solo is so much better live than on record, the way the
guitar sounds. Of course the Hysteria songs sound better live, although it kind
of disappointed me that most of "Rocket" is actually Rick Savage playing the
drum machine off his keyboard. If someone catches the ADrenalise tour, please 
let me know if they do some older material along with their newer ones.

philip
"Washington Boulevard, east-bound. Thirty-three...Can I get a transfer, man?
Ninety-five cents?! FUCK YOU I'LL SKATE TO THE BEACH, AND I'LL LOOK BETTER
GETTING THERE!!!" - Faith No More, "Death March"
e-mail Philip Wang at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
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From: jkonrath@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Jon Konrath)
Subject: Re: Sepultura
Organization: No organization. No life. Just emacs.
	<16848A836.C1899012@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU>
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:09:58 GMT

In article <16848A836.C1899012@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU> C1899012@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU writes:

>"all-time best" list--Sepultura's Arise.  I'm relativly new to this newsgroup
>so  I  was  wondering if some of you experts out there could list some albums
>you think are comparable  to  Arise in terms of overall heaviness, intensity,
>and production quality.

OK, ill mention my favorite picks if you have to stock up on cd's....in order 
of necessity:

1) Entombed - Clandestine : this is simply one of the best produced albums I 
have; The music is dark, fast, melodic, and tearing.  the lyrics are evil 
yet not overly satanic/hokey.  even the cover is cool.  my vote for best
album of 92.

2) Carcass - Necroticism : Descanting the Insalubrious : a close second to
Entombed.  fast, very gory, and WELL produced.  very tight and dynamic, but 
a bit thin in places, and not as much variance in the tunes.  but great 
digital sound, great intros/soundbites too.

3) Deicide - Legion : oboy...this album is speedy, and very punchy.  pretty
riffy, and killer bass that really has presence.  its brutal, and choppy
in an agressive way.  and the most serious satanic lyrics youll find.  its
a must-have.

4) Desultry - this is a trick answer, they are currently recording their
first album.  but their demo rules!  tight, good sweedish death sound, 
pretty dynamic.  send for their demo or wait for the new album.

5) Morbid Angel - Blessed are the Sick : this is a bit dated, but it still
rules.  very dynamic, great sound, good lyrics that are satanic but not
overpowering.  great intros, great digital sound.

   Someone else recommended Malevolent Creation's "Ten Commandments".  Has anyone
   else got it?  The way the guy described it I feel like rushing out and buying
   it right now but I have been burned a couple times doing that before.  From now
   on I'm going to get more than one person's opinion.


well, i have been playing a couple of songs off of _Retribution_, their latest
release, but i havent bought 10 commandments and the station doesnt seem to
have a copy.  retribution is a pretty punchy album, the recording is weird 
cause i can never get the level right when playing it, every drum hit peaks
out the VU meters...its like the drums were recorded with killer attack to
them.  sounds cool though, i just let it peak out :)

OBmetal: I put a 15" subwoofer in my Volkswagon rabbit last night....theres
a lot of people in town with these big stereo systems listening to rap, so
i can now do some 'thumpin' of my own, with Deicide :)  

-j
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Subject: Z-Rock revisited
From: etcarpenter@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 02:34:14 GMT
Reply-To: me, c/o this newspaper
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
Keywords: short, but to the point
Summary: It doesn't completely suck, at least not always, for the most part

One saving grace:
If you're lucky, you can get 'em to play requests between noon and 1PM CDT.
Today I requested Arizona by the Scorpions, less than a minute before the end
of a song, and Arizona was the very next song they played.
I didn't think DJ's ever moved that fast.
From: eric@cs.utexas.edu (Eric Thomas Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: NEW J.PRIEST SONG!!!!!!!
Date: 20 Aug 1992 23:58:56 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: earth.cs.utexas.edu

	I'm not sure what song the guy heard with Halford on vocals, as
I haven't heard it, but I can verify that he did come to Dallas and record
a lot of stuff with Pantera.  Some of that stuff should show up on his
solo record.  I can't wait to hear that, as a guy I met who was there in
the studio said it was just amazing.  He said they recorded over an hour's
worth of material together.  He also told me that Pantera is soon to be
releasing an hourlong video of assorted live footage.  Pretty cool.

				Eric Brown
				eric@cs.utexas.edu


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From: bui@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca (BUI/DON/MR)
Subject: Re: Def Leppard concert at Madison Square Garden
Organization: EE Lab, McGill University EE Lab, Montreal
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 20:11:19 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.045335.9048@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>I just came back from the show, and along with Morbid Angel / Agnostic Front /
>Stormtroopers Of Death, the Richard Marx / Bryan Adams / Def Leppard show is
>arguably the best show I've seen yet, but I say this hesitantly, as you'll
>see why. They gave an awesome performance and all three bands were very
>impressive. I don't know any Richard Marx stuff but "Don't Mean Nothing" but
...

>As you can see, no On Through The Night, no High'N'Dry, and not even Pyromania.
>I can see why, in order to cater to the audience that is more familiar to
>the other headliner (Adams) and opener (Marx) and DL's later material (boy was
>I lost. I don't know lyrics to any of their new songs. Just Pyromania and 

We're getting the "Seven Day Weekend" tour here in Montreal next Wednesday,
(hope they don't have to stop the show because Rick loses his other arm after
the first song and a riot breaks out again), so I was wondering how their
performance was.  Did they rock out or were there backstage keyboards at work
to enhance their sound?  Most of their new vocal stuff is pretty tricky, "Have
 You Ever ...", "White Lightning" among others have over a hundred voices
doubled onto each other for the choruses.  Do they pull it off?  They're good
singers but from what I saw at the Freddie Mercury tribute, they sounded awful.

The three hour show should give us plenty of "Pyro" stuff, but all I'm 
expecting from before that is "Bringing On the Heartbreak" which they played
on the "Hysteria" tour.  Sorry to disappoint you Phil, but the Leps are not
at all proud of the OTTN album.  In fact I've read interviews where Joe said
he can't believe they ever did that record and that he can only listen to it 
when he's drunk.  Therefore, for them to ever perform anything off that album 
is extremely unlikely.  

One more thing.  Why did they play such a short set?  Was this some sort of 
special event?

>philip

                                                  - Don


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From: sedenome@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Banger)
Subject: Re: Thanks for your help!
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:25:34 GMT

I don't know if anyone out there gives a shit, but I'm leaving for a few months
(please hold applause til the end...) and I'd just like to say how cool this
newsgroup has been to read, and thank everyone for their info and lyrics and
(of course) their flames...

Up The Irons!!!  ...Back in 4 wasted months,

		BANGER.
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From: jwg@iedv7.acd.com ( Jim Grey )
Subject: Re: Z-Rock
Summary: They're only in it for the moneyt
Organization: Applied Computing Devices, Inc., Terre Haute IN
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:33:26 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.003717.4254@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>There was a time when Z-Rock was the best deal going. Unfortunately that ended
>about a year and a half ago. Apparently they finally got an affiliate in Hawaii.
>and the time difference is such that their late night<in the continental U.S.>
>thrash show "Headbangers Heaven" was coming on during the dinner or breakfast  
>hours in Hawaii. About the same time, they decided to mellow out a little.
>The DJ's that resisted the change were pretty much disposed of, except for
>Mad Max Hammer <there since the beginning>, and Cranking Craig. 
>Now they play mostly their version of top 40, as opposed to the older
>format which allowed them to play a lot of older material at any moment.
>I can remember them playing long <8 minutes +> Trouble songs on sunday
>afternoons for no real reason other than somebody requested them. 
>Craig still tries to hold the flame with his "Old Stuff" show, but
>the days when they would play Tommy Bolin, or Samson just for the hell
>of it, (and because the stuff was great!) are long gone. Pity.
>
>				--Judex--
>


I work for a rock station (you know, so-called AOR) hereabouts, and welp, ZRock
statrted reporting in the AOR trades.  If you don't know what a trade is, and
you don't know what reporting is, well, look itat it this way:  it's how the
record companies know what they're doing so records can be sent to them.  There
have got to be metal trades out there -- so the only reason they're sending to
the AOR trades is that, hey, they've mellowed out.
Why?  Because it's more plalatable to a wider audience.  Read:  Bigger audience
equals more advertising $.
 
jim
jwg$@acd4,.acd.com
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From: noah@Cadence.COM (Noah Ruiz)
Subject: Re: NWOBHM info
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 23:17:02 GMT

>
>
>
>"Washington Boulevard, east-bound. Thirty-three...Can I get a transfer, man?
>Ninety-five cents?! FUCK YOU I'LL SKATE TO THE BEACH, AND I'LL LOOK BETTER
>GETTING THERE!!!" - Faith No More, "Death March"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Ya!!!!!! Thats when Faith No More had a real singer (Chuck Mosely)!!!
Also thats when Faith No More was a real band!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No flame..... just an opinion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 _
HaoN
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