From: stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Hus Fu and the Japanese
Date: 24 Dec 1992 20:55:58 GMT
Organization: Sun
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In article <IfCGbnK00iUxA3o=Nb@andrew.cmu.edu> ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano) writes:
>> 
>>It is interesting question about where did the Japanese come from.
>>Japanese scholars tend to deny their connection with China and Chinese.
>
>I have to conceive that this is a most interesting post of the decade.
>a Japanese is Caucasian. A Japanese might want to be Caucasian but in
>all reality s/he is not. In my other life, a faint memory of an
>individual who stated that the Ainu people, of my birthland Hokkaido,
>was Caucasian. This is not true. 
>It is commonsense that these people are not Caucasians just because
>their skin color is lighter. That's because of the weather! And, maybe
>inter-racial relationship with the Russians has something to do with
>this also.
>
There are two major Japanese culture period, the Jomon culture and the 
Yayoi culture. Before WWII, there were more Japanese scholars claimed
that the Jomon culture was the major Japanese culture which has Ainu
people related, and the Jomon people were the ancestors of Ainu, or
the Japanese. After WWII, there are many unearthed historical items
were uncovered throughout the country provide the evidence to disprove
that theory. Meanwhile many intelligent Japanese stayed in Taiwan before
the war also told students in Taiwan of Japanese community known story
about their ancestors from China. Some of my contacts who stayed in
Kyoto and Fukuoga many years also found some Chinese immigrant evidence.

Due to the weakness of China in the late Qing and Japanese success of
invasion China, Japanese people strongly objected the connection with Chinese.
The author who posted article on the World Journal in last December seemed 
to have more supporting documents to convince people. The author, Mr. Lo
Qi-Xion, seems to have been in Fukuoga and some other places in Japan
before his research paper was published by Tokyo Book Publication Company.
He also hosted seminars with Japanese scholars in Hsu-chow many times via
the Chinese-Japanese friendship and culture exchange program. Hsu-chow
in north Jiangxu was the capital of Hsu-kuo (a tributal country in ancient
China). After the unification under the first emperor of Qin, Hsu became
the east costal territory of Qin. Some information says that Hsu Fu was 
a prince of Hsu. The hometown of Hsu Fu is near the Shangdong peninsular,
from there it is believed people can see the islands of Chi-chow and the
Korean peninsula, and perhaps the Kyushu island of Japan in good weather
days. Besides, the sailing route from Shangdong peninsular tip to Chi-show
turning to Kyushu, or along the Korean peninsula to Kyushu is fairly high
reliable. The author also pointed out that another route, from Hui-gee of
Che-jiang (near Ning-po) toward some small island of Okinawa turning north
to Kyushu. This provides me some evidence to prove some story was told by
fishing people of Pen-hu (between Taiwan and Chinese mainland). There is
a seven beauty grave on a small island. Those ladies are believed to kill
themself when the Japanese pirates attacked their village, many hundred
years ago. 

>I havt to research this Hsu Fu. This is great information to me.
>
I wish people can direct contact the author, Mr. Lo Qi-Xion, in order to
get more reliable information. However, I have no information about Mr. Lo
whether he is still in China or not. The Japanese may go through Tokyo
Book Publication Company to find the source.