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From: Jim_Brownfield@radical.com (Jim Brownfield)
Subject: Re: Dr. Julian Bashir = Dr. Dork (*Minor Spoilers*)
Reply-To: Jim_Brownfield@Radical.Com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 08:01:35 GMT

In article <rawdon.727553917@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael  
Rawdon) writes:
> In <SHABBY.93Jan19133315@beeblebrox.mit.edu> shabby@Athena.MIT.edu (Chris  
Shabsin) writes:

> >   Anyway, if the Producers and Writers continue to make Bashir out to be
> >   the Dork of the Universe, I'll write up a little story where Dax, or Odo
> >   or Perhaps EVERYONE accidentially pushes him out an airlock. ;)
> 
> >He is the most likeable character in the show, IMHO.
> 
> I think he *could* be the most likeable, with a little fine-tuning.> 
> -- 
> Michael Rawdon

In "A Man Alone", Bashir is a much more interesting character.  He really could  
be one of the better characters in DS9.  But I'm still looking for "He's dead,  
Ben" -- maybe in the next episode... :-)

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:04:05 EST
From: <DCS4@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Edward Albert question...
 <i87wXB3w165w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>

For what it is worth, folks, I'm the one who asked the question
in the first place about whether or not the Edward Albert on
Depp Space Nine was the same as the one on Beauty and the Beast.

The reason I became curious was because I recognized him, *then*
looked for his name. It was his appearance I recognized first,
not his name. It is most certainly the same actor.

My primary question was whether or not he was related to the
*other* actor with a similar name -- the older Eddie Albert.
Sorry for the confusion resulting from my question. We return
you now to your regular confusion...

- Dave
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From: dsohl@spock.uucp (Daniel Sohl)
Subject: Re: Patrick Stewart question
Organization: Choate Rosemary Hall
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:50:20 GMT

In article <86608@ut-emx.uucp> rebecca@order.ph.utexas.edu (Rebecca McGowan) writes:
>Is Patrick Stewart married?  If so, to whom?  I heard a very unlikely
>rumor which I won't repeat, but I would like any reliable info.
>
>Thanks,
>	Rebecca

No, Patrick Stewart is not married. I was at a convention in Valley Forge
recently, and somebody else asked him that question. He is, however, divorced
and has several kids.

P.S. Could you E me that "unlikely rumor"? <G>
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From: eric@acis11.tamu.edu (Eric L. Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: real tough life on DS9
Date: 21 Jan 93 23:37:00 GMT
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What happened to the concept that life was going to be so much harder
on DS9 than on the Enterprise? This last show had (what looked like)
fresh cut flowers on the table where the Dr. met the cardasian plus
the rest of the station seems to be fully functional and nice and
clean? So much for the Drs. so called frontier!!
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From: pjb4288@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Pete - Toonatic - Boulay)
Subject: DS9 rumor is BS!
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:09:22 GMT

Deep Space Nine is not going to be cancelled!!!!

Confirmed by Paramount through connections...
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From: hjanberg@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Hans-nicolas Kenneth Janberg)
Subject: Re: Clones
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:35:16 GMT

>From: dbrown@newssun.med.miami.edu (Daniel Brown)

>In the recent DS9 episode "A Man Alone", or something like that,
>Sisko and Odo allow the villian's clone to live.  Why?  What would
>prevent this clone (or, rather, save him) from doing the same thing
>his original did?

>Dan


Who says that criminal tendencies are implanted in one's DNA?
Just that he is a clone doesn't mean he has the same character...
In fact, he shouldn't have a character at all, since he doesn't have any
experience or knowledge. Just like a newborn.

-Nicolas

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From: huggins@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Jim Huggins)
Subject: Re: Holodeck matter (spoiler)
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:13:54 GMT

In article <C1I0qv.7JG@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine) writes:
|Something just popped into my head whilst watching "Ship in a Bottle"


|Okay, here it is:

|The book shouldn't have disappeared.

|The holodeck uses rudimentary transporter technology to create simply
|things such as trees, water (member, Wesley drips after falling into
|the stream in the pilot), paper (Moriarty's drawing in "Elementary,
|Dear Data"), etc.

|The only matter that *can't* leave the holodeck are the people.  So
|the book, a replicated book, should have landed with a thud in the
|corridoor, not disappeared in a sparkle of light.

I think you can explain this one away ... remember that the book
disappeared from *Moriarty's* holodeck simulation, which
was programmed with his own understanding of what a holodeck
can and can't do.  Since he had never seen holodeck matter
removed from the holodeck, he didn't know what would happen
when holodeck matter was removed.

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From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: Nana Visitor's acting (was Re: Avery Brooks's acting)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:27:34 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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In <1993Jan27.161334.29025@fnbc.com> frank@fnbc.com (Frank Mitchell) writes:
>Granted, she hasn't let her guard down in any episode since.  (The scene in  
>"Babel" of Dax and Kira walking together captures this perfectly: Dax was  
>amused and curious, and Kira stalked beside her with an an expression of 
>"Just TRY messing with me.")

You no, maybe it does make sense.  She's not from Bejor, she's from
Brooklyn!

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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: DS9 Kira Fan List
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:21:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.212120.7503@sx.mont.nec.com> ynecelc@sx.mont.nec.com (Ellison Chan) writes:
>I just wanted to post a reminder to everyone, that I *am*
>still accepting names for the list.
>
>But please send me mail, people are complaining about
>seeing, "add me to the list" messages on the net.

Not just the "add me to the list" messages. The list as well. Guess what?
I don't give a damn about who likes Kira! And I certainly don't care to
see their names posted all over r.a.s.c!

This will surely go down in net.history as the most inane thread ever
created...


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From: jverho80@ursa.calvin.edu (Jeff Verhoef)
Subject: Re: Galley?
Organization: Calvin College
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:26:10 GMT

cbittel@scoraz.resp-sci.arizona.edu (Clinton Bittel) writes:



>      Now on to something else.  Was watching StarTrekVI on HBO and noticed
>   many scenes in and about the Enterprise's Galley.  For example when Kim
>  Catrall(sp?) fired the phaser at the pot of ????? and vaporised it.

>    ???? Since when do we have a Galley?  I though we got our food from the
>  replicators.  Even in STOS they used to get their food from the replicators,
> even though it looked like little green and red colored balls.

>  Have they decided to go back to preparing large meals for everyone?

This is from _Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise_", which may or may not
be canon, and the layout may not be the same as 1701-A, but it may give
you some idea why you saw a galley.

"The officers' mess comprises most of C Deck.  The donut-shaped central area,
approximately equal in diameter to the main bridge, is a specialty kitchen
capable of serving VIPs cuisine not available through the ship's food 
processor units."

It also could be that the cooks were exchanging recipies too!  :)
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From: msmallwo@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (M. Lee Smallwood)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Hormones (uh, pardon me...)
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:54:08 GMT
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Richmond)

This is insane! The .current people tell people to take the
'Kira's nose' out of their group and put it into .misc. Now,
the misc people say that it doesn't belong here either.
Nobody's happy. What we need is a group for the discussion of
characters. Let's call it .characters. Anyone have an
objection??

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From: crow@coos.dartmouth.edu (Preston F. Crow)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Q: some background info needed
Date: 25 Jan 93 00:04:25 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In <Jan.24.16.29.33.1993.4654@andromeda.rutgers.edu> giordano@andromeda.rutgers.edu (E. Giordano) writes:


>   Could someone please email me some background info on the "Q"
>like what was the first intro to "Q", what did
>the episode containm, why does he keep
>showing up for this and that, why doesn't he just
>destroy them all... Thanks in advance

Q was in the very first TNG episode, "Encounter at Farpoint," and he
has been in several espisodes per season since then.  While he could
easily destroy the Enterprise if he wanted to, he doesn't really want
to.

[Note:  I'm trying to shift this over to r.a.s.misc since it's not really current.  (If only we had r.a.s.characters...)]

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From: gt6249c@prism.gatech.EDU (The Corinthian)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: BABEL
Date: 27 Jan 93 06:39:38 GMT
Organization: Cracker Barrel


In article jd53@prism.gatech.EDU (DE LA COVA,JORGE) writes:
>Did it ever occur to you that the Babel reference might be to the 
>biblical Babel?
>
>Oops, I guess that sounded a bit theo-centric.  I don't mean to sound
>so matter-of-fact about this, but I always figured it was a fairly
>common story.  The Tower of Babel was a structure built by the I-don't-
>know-whoians to reach God.  God punished man his egocentricity by
>scrambling the language of the workers into countless different   
>languages, making it impossible for them to work together on the Tower.


For another look at communications scrambling viruses and Babel/babble
check out the novel _Snow Crash_ by Neal Stephenson.  Its a bit more
cyberpunkish than DS9 and also a great read.



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From: 00rdharringt@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Rob Harrington)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DS9 Ranks
Date: 22 Jan 93 03:41:54 GMT
Organization: Ball State University

In article <C17t1C.Bu1@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Robert.T.Warfield@dartmouth.edu (Robert T. Warfield) writes:
> 
>   For all of you who are arguing about O'Brians rank, please look at
> kis collar.
> 
> 0= Hollow pip
> *= Full pip
> 
>    0= Ensign (jg)

Ensign (jg)?  So far as I know Ensign is the lowest rank...

>    *= Ensign
>   *0= Lieutenant (jg)
>   **= Lieutenant
>  **0= Lieutenant Commander
>  ***= Commander
> ****= Captian


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From: Otto Heuer #3 <ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com>
Subject: DS9 rumor *SPOILER*
To: rec.arts.startrek.current (r.a.s.current)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 21:58:07 CST
Organization: Hack-Man's Hangout
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Bob Wilde writes:

> I found this article which has a major spoiler for an upcoming episode
> of DS9, our favorite trek.


> >From comp.sys.ibm.pc.games

> >And get this:  Rick Bergman (sp?), the executive producer of the 
> >show will have the final say as to when the game is ready for shipment.  He
> >wants NO bugs in it (the software kind as well as the Trekker kind).  No 
> >story line well be released as one of the characters will be killed off in 
>                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >the show soon.
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> Can't vouch for the authenticity of this rumor, but let's hope if this is an
> attempt to make the show "grim and dirty" it isn't handled like Tasha Yar's
> first death (though a DS9 episode of the caliber of Yesterday's Enterprise
> would be quite a treat).  Problem is, I can't think of a major character I'd
> like to see go.  Quark, Sisko, Odo, Kira, Dax, Bashir, O'Brien, they all show
> promise.

I can't say I'd grieve in the least if they decided to toast Molly, Kira,
and Keiko in one fell swoop.  All the rest of the characters are close to 
perfect!

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From: lward@husc11.harvard.edu (Lester Ward)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Metaphors, Darmok and You
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:42:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc.lward.728001758

johnsh@rpi.edu (Hugh Johnson) writes:
>==========================================================================
> Hugh Johnson                     | 
> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute | "Pointy birds,
> Troy, New York, USA              |  O pointy pointy." -- Steve Martin
> johnsh@rpi.edu                   |                       L.A. Story
>==========================================================================

This birds thing was actually done by Mr. Martin in A Man With Two Brains.

The whole thing went:

 Pointy birds
 O pointy pointy,
 Annoint my head
 Annointy, 'nointy.

Wordman
From: 00jlrushton@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Rec.Arts.DS9.Argh.post! READ! RESP!
Date: 22 Jan 93 00:41:57 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's


Kira lovers list?
is this neccessary ?
why not a Dax list?
or a Spot the Cat list ?

Odo nose its weird we know that stop the posts!

Klingons show hooters so what? (sssswwwwiiiinnnnggg thats what!)

Yes the Comet is odd so is the ship designs! argh!
Credits WE DON'T need no stinking credit squabbles!
No more music stuff either argh!

Well write to the groups

rec.arts.klingon.hooters
rec.arts.odo.nose
rec.arts.ds9.bullcrap
rec.arts.spot
rec.arts.ds90210
rec.arts.get.a.life

signed,
Stimpi the seeker on the great Spot!
From: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Possible future stories (was Re: SEASON SEVEN CONFIRMED)
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:32:45 GMT
Reply-To: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Organization: University of Arizona

In article <1993Jan26.131804.1642@galaxy.gov.bc.ca>, bclarke@galaxy writes:
>> After seven seasons on the little tube would not most
>> agree that the writers have explored everything that
>> can be explored within the constraints of TV before
>> quality suffers badly? Just MHO.
>>            internet:  laUNChpad.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80
>
>MHO: I would not agree. They have the whole galaxy to explore,

Yeah.  It's not like they've done much exploring so far...

>and stories are limited by only the imagination of the writers.

Judging by some of the stories we've seen lately, that can be a pretty
severe limitation.

However, I think the biggest obsticles to new stories on TNG lies
elsewhere.  One problem is that the characters are essentially cast
in stone.  No-one changes, no-one evolves: Picard gets kidnapped by
the Borg and forced to decimate Starfleet?  Back to normal in 3 episodes.
Geordi brainwashed by the Romulans into a killing machine?  We never
hear of it again.  Picard gets zapped by 1000-year-old technology and
spends 30 years living an alternate life?  He's back to normal the next
time the opening credits roll.

This, my friends, is the straight-jacket the TNG writers find themselves
wearing.  They can't change the characters, they can't introduce any
persistant new traits, and every situation that gets introduced (with a
few exceptions) has to be completely resolved within the 45 minutes they
have outside commercials.

These are characters cast in amber, and we're already seeing the results
of that in episodes that sound more and more like retreads of ideas already
explored in earlier episodes.  Frankly, unless the powers that be show a
lot more willingness to take chances with the characters and situations,
there's little (creative) reason to go past the end of the 6th season.

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From: rebecca@order.ph.utexas.edu (Rebecca McGowan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Patrick Stewart question
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:17:53 GMT

Is Patrick Stewart married?  If so, to whom?  I heard a very unlikely
rumor which I won't repeat, but I would like any reliable info.

Thanks,
	Rebecca
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From: tiverson@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Thor Iverson)
Subject: Re: Promo for next DS9--humorous sight
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:54:59 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.045247.23435@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> tiverson@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Thor Iverson) writes:

>quite clearly grabbing a large handful of Visitor's...uh...left breast.

Sorry, I was mistaken.  It's the right one.
From: wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (no one of consequence)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: TNG's Funniest Moments
Date: 28 Jan 1993 03:00:47 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: thumper.cc.utexas.edu


"Hollow Pursuits"

When Picard called Barclay "Brocolli" and all the scenes in the Holodeck
especially:

  --Picard, Data and Geordi in "Three Musketeers" costumes

  --Troi's reaction to her Holodeck doppleganger "I am the Goddess of Empathy."

"Realm of Fear"

Barclay's reactions to the computer listing the symptoms of transporter
psychoses.


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From: parrish@acavax.lynchburg.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: KIRA LIST
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:08:55 -0500
Organization: Lynchburg College

ADD ME TO THE GROWING LIST OF KIRA FANS! SSSSSSHHHHWING!

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From: johnnyp@HALDI.LCS.MIT.EDU (Johnny Piscitello)
Subject: Re: TNG's FUNNIEST MOMENTS
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:15:27 GMT

In article <C1B5D3.457@cs.dal.ca> sweet@ug.cs.dal.ca (garth r sweet) writes:
>	My favorite is the TNG episode where the Enteprise and a 
>Romulian vessel are in orbit around Iconia (sp?) and being attacked
>by a computer virus. Geordi is using a com panel and starts getting
>zapped due to a malfunction, Data sees this and trys to rush over and
>pull him away from the panel. Trouble is Data was a little over zealous
>and flings Geordi (one handed) across the room, the facial expressions
>and fidgiting done by Data had me in stitches, too bad the bit of
>dialog between Data and Geordi on the floor (which was for comic effect)
>came across so poorly).

	"Contagion". GREAT episode! Funniest scene for me: when the
turbolift was going haywire, and Geordi was caught inside it. The thing
finally makes it to the bridge and send Geordi flying into the bridge.

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