From: ls0823@wuche1.wustl.edu (Labros Skartsis)
Subject: Re: 'Skartsis' Lives With "If's" And "Illusions:" Competitive Enough?
Organization: Washington University in St. Louis
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 15:34:03 GMT

In article: <m0lbf54-0003YPC@ddsw1.mcs.com>
han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu) writes:


>>Look once more at the mutlu's statement; yes, they are in the same
>>category: Greece had a bit more than $5500 and Turkey (correct me if I'm
>>wrong) around $3500. (These are 1988 economic numbers used in the UN's HDI of
>
>Where in the world did you dig up the above numbers? The best evidence
>you can find is second hand hearsay from an unnamed source. Obviously, 
>you are wrong; Turkiye's 'Annual Output Per Person in Dollars Adjusted 
>to Purchasing Power Parity' is $4870. 

No, the numbers I gave are 1988, the one you are giving is obviously
more recent (because in 1989 Turkey had PPP - Annual Output per Person
in Dollars Adjusted tp Purchasing Power Parity - of around $4200). So your
number should be early 1990, when Greek PPP was well over $7000. All
these numbers "jump" up every year, because they are estimated as fractions
of the U.S. GDP per person.       
By the way, this information is readily available in many publications 
(like OECD reports); even the Economist publishes them now and then (you
could find all the information about the HDI there, as well).

>>The following statements are exactly correct - as was mutlu's statement:
>>"Annual Output per Person in dollars adjusted to Purchasing Power Parity
>>(PPP): Greece and West Germany are in the same category: That 
>>is, $6,600 - $12,599".
>
>Have you lost your rabbit? Germany is in '$12,000 - $14,999' category whereas 
>Greece is in '$3,000 - $5,999' category. 

Same story: this time my numbers were 1989 
(sorry, in my previous posting I had said 
1990) while your numbers are 1988! Remember, again: starting and ending the
range of the "category" appropriately, I can create ... any impression 
I want. For example, in your cited category (1988) of $3,000 - $5,999 (according
to this controversial PPP method which squeezes the incomes of different
countries close to each other) you would find about ... one third of the
world's nations featuring all kinds of different economic conditions! 



Mutlu, you are amazing! Your sole purpose is to deceive, counting on
- and hoping for - some peoples' lack of relevant knowledge. 
When you are brought to the
point where you have to state facts, you end up lying. 
What's your point? What are you trying to accomplish by pure lies and
deception? 

What you say about the Gr/Tur economies is bull, you know, of course
that is bull, everybody knows that it is bull, but you still try
to "cook" your words in order to deceive... To accomplish what?
Who doesn't know, roughly at least, the relative position of Gr and Tur?
Who won't see your postings as another effort to deceive and lie??
And, you see, everybody, even if they didn't know anything about
the Turkish/Armenian question will, based on your ... approach to other 
facts that are common knowledge (like the above comparisons), at
least suspect that you are trying , once more , to deceive... 
 
Regards,
L. Skartsis

P.S. I know, I know: I was supposed to have ended the 
discussion with this joker!