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From: shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick)
Subject: PROJECT IDEA: Please respond
Originator: shulick@navajo
Reply-To: shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: Vallen Software
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:41:25 GMT


Finally, a decent project has emerged.  =u)  First, the boring info:

GfxRing, Copyright (C) 1993 Sam Hulick and Matt Lewallen.  All rights
reserved.

Basically, you put GfxRing into WBStartup.  Loading GfxRing will start a
server in the background, which waits for your phone to ring.  (NOTE:
Your modem must be on and you must be offline).  The server detects this
and puts a little graphical bell on your current window/screen
momentarily.

Purpose:  In case you live in some place where you're cursed w/
roommates, and are expecting a late phone call.  Turn your modem on,
turn your phone ringer off, and turn on GfxRing.  Sure, you could just
load up VLT or soomething and wait for "RING" to appear, but this is
much more cosmetic.  =u)

If you have any suggestions, please do e-mail them to me at
shulick@indiana.edu.  Thank you.

- SH
- Vallen Software

-- 
    // Amiga 3000   ___ \ Sam Hulick: shulick@indiana.edu (NeXTmail OK!)
   // 68030 25 MHz /__/\ \ My opinions wear combat boots.  Or whatever.
\\// OS 2.04       \__\/ / "Walk!  Not bloody likely.  I am going in a
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From: tope@enea.se (Tommy Petersson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: WorkBench 2.1?
Date: 5 Jan 93 14:59:58 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

I.A.Inman@newcastle.ac.uk (I.A. Inman) writes:
: 
: Am I missing something here?
: 
: I thought Commodore went straight from WB2.04/2.05 to WB3.0.
: 
: This version of WB never appeared in Britain.
: 
: What the hec is WB2.1?

It includes some enhancements over 2.04, but the big thing is Locale
support. It means that you can run your programs in, eh, English
instead of English...

It also includes CrossDOS (read/write MS-DOS disks), PostScript
printer driver, bug-fixes... It's a poor-mans substitute for 3.0,
since a new KickStart ROM is not needed if you already have 2.04. And
ofcourse 3.0 isn't available yet for non-AGA machines.

: 
: 								I.A.Inman.

-- 
=============================================================================
 Tommy Petersson              tope@enea.se              Enea Data AB, Sweden
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From: root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re:  Reasons for Amiga CD-ROM
Distribution: world
Date: 2 Jan 93 08:29:59 EST
Organization: Rick's Amiga

In article <C05JLF.BLB@NeoSoft.com> peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>In article <C043q8.8pC@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:
>>    Read-write CDs have been promised for some time.  They are here already,
>> but only in very-expensive units that can only erase and re-write a CD a
>
>No, they're not. There are read-write optical disk drives for computers
>using a variety of mechanisms. I'm talking about commodity audio CDs.
>
>>    Even after read-write CDs do finally arrive, the manufacturing costs of 
>> such CDs will likely be higher than for CD-ROMs.
>
>For mass production they'll be exactly the same, because they'll be the
>exact same parts.


However, there is nothing keeping the price of MO drives from dropping.
They have been pushing the CD-ROM since 1987, when a CD-ROM drive cost
about $1500+.  A Sony SCSI or ESDI MO drive now costs less than $1500.

I spent some time evaluating the Sony MO drives.  The models that I fooled
with used a cartridge that was 300 Meg on each side.  For one of my tests,
I put a UNIX box with the MO drive attached in a burn-in room that was
somewhere between 40 and 45 degrees C.  I left it in there for 2 1/2 weeks.
During that time I continually ran a read/write disk exerciser diagnostic
on the MO disk.  It read and wrote millions of sectors on the cartridge.
I never saw a bad sector during that time, and the drive was set up to
not deallocate bad sectors.  I then did a followup to the test by loading
UNIX on the cartridge and using it as a main root drive for about a month.
No problems.


--
Rick Kelly		Rick's Amiga		Framingham, Mass.

		think!unixland!rmkhome!rkamiga!root

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu)
Subject: Re: WHY DirOpus when there are Just as good PD ones?
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 15:52:19 GMT

In article <C0ID11.25A@eis.calstate.edu> tdenbo@eis.calstate.edu (Tom Denbo) writes:
>I can tell why I bought DOpus.  SID wouldn't run under 2.04 and Timm
>Martin was sick so long that I needed something.  I tried all the PD ones
>and the hype for DOpus was so overwhelming that I actually paid for
>a DirUtil.  Never thought I'd ever do that!
>
>With the ridiculous high priced upgrade policy, I'm beginning to be sorry I
>made a mistake.  Innovatronics needs to get a clue!  I'm afraid that they
>have just about killed a good program.

  I noticed that Safe Harbor advertises V 4.0 for $59.00 which is
  only $9.00 more than the upgrade from v 3.22.  Also Software Hut
  advertises v 4.0 for $39 (although that could be a misprint).
  This is in the Feb. 1993 AmigaWorld magazine, in case anyone is
  interested!  But I do agree that the upgrade is kind of steep
  and probably won't get it unless I get an AGA machine (unlikely
  since I just got a A3000).
From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: CBM at CES/Vegas quickie report
Date: Thu,  7 Jan 93 19:01:38 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Please excuse the lousy formatting of this post as I
am in a hotel room in rainy Las Vegas, Nevada to attend
the Winter Consumer Electronics Show.

Commodore's booth participants were already noted here
in an official press release posted by Sue West so I won't 
reash that. The booth is appx twice the size of the one 
CBM used here in Vegas for COMDEX last november and this
time at CES they are in the main convention center hall, 
and again "next door" to IBM.

There are no new Amiga or CDTV models at the booth.
The rumors of a new CDTV perhaps AGA-equipped did not come tru
at this show. The 1200 and 4000 and original CDTV are the 
featured players. 
One new thing being shown, altho very quietly, as in no
signs and no press release is MPEG on a card inside a 4000
running full motion full screen video streams in a sizeable
window. Jeff Porter of CBM Engineering (a real nice guy btw) 
told me this is a new Amiga product in development. Release date/price 
to be announced later. It looked damn good to me. 
I also attended the absolutely standing room only
press conference for the new company 3DO, founded by
E/A's Trip Hawkins. I'll post more about this later when
I get home and get a chance to type in some of what was
in their press kit but for now I'll say that what I saw in
th way of demos was damn impressive, although rather limited.
The first 3DO machine is already being shown in prototype form
in their booth with the Panasonic name brand on it, and
they plan to ship in Fall '93 with an anticipated price of
$700.00 or thereabouts. They claim 80 software houses
are already working on titles and their financial partners
include AT&T, Time Warner, and a number of other financial heavyweights.
RJ Mical and Dave Needle, both of the original Amiga Inc.
were on the stage driving the demos during the presentation.
They are part of the software and hardware team that has been
developing this product in near secrecy for quite a while
now. The proto machine is RISC based, full 24 bit output,
has a CD drive, plays many kinds of media including music and photo CDs,
and is equipped with coprocessors which let it do nice
things like real time image mapping and rotation and warping
and transparency and real-life lighting effects. 2MEG RAM is standard and
the prototypes had a plethora of ports on its butt end
and is manipulated with a hand-held controller not unlike a
games console. No keyboard was shown. All the software I saw
looked to be very carefully crafted demos of very early stages
of what has the potential to be a mind-boggling new product,
as revolutinary in 1993 as the Amiga was in 1985.
We'll see   :)

I'll be uploading digitized Xapshot still video frames
shot at CES next week when I get home. Look for them on
Portal and amiga.physik.unizh.ch sometime next week.

Harv
From: barrett@snoopy.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: DVI2LJ port (was Re: Disks 791-800 now available)
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:45:53 GMT
Reply-To: barrett@snoopy.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Organization: BLAZEMONGER INCORPORATED


In article <21221@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> Fred Fish writes:
>CONTENTS OF DISK 797
>...
>DVI2LJ		A cli utility to convert TeX .DVI files into HP PCL files
>		suitable for printing on the HP Laser Jet series printers.
>		Author:  Gustaf Neumann, amiga port by Daniel Barrett

	While I am flattered to see my name here, I did not port this
program to the Amiga.  It had already been ported by the time I got my hands
on it.  However, it is not really possible to tell this from the source
code, so I don't blame whoever submitted it to Fred.

	Sadly, I do not know who originally did the port.  I merely hacked a
few things to make it work with PasTeX 1.3 on my system.

                                                        Dan

 //////////////////////////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
| Dan Barrett -- Dept of Computer Science, Lederle Graduate Research Center |
| University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA  01003  --  barrett@cs.umass.edu |
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From: zerkle@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (Dan Zerkle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Quandry: Upgrade path
Date: 5 Jan 93 08:23:47 GMT
Reply-To: zerkle@cs.ucdavis.edu (Dan Zerkle)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of California, Davis

In article <1993Jan5.004029.21389@fcom.cc.utah.edu> val@news.ccutah.edu (Val Kartchner) writes:

>I currently have an A2000 w/8MB of memory and a pre-ECS Agnes.  I will
>upgrade soon, but I haven't decided which path to take:
>
>	1) Get an accelerator (GVP G-Force '040 Combo: 33MHz '040, SCSI-2
>	   controller, serial and parallel ports) and a 24-bit display
>	   card (Opalvision).  $1899 + $999 = $2898
>
>	2) A4000.  $2699
>
>There are other considerations, but the main ones are:
>
>	Option one gives me 8MHz more speed for $200, but only 16-bit bus.
>
>	Option two gives me Zorro III and another Amiga, but no SCSI controller.

The 4000 will give higher performance for most purposes, as it has the
AGA chip set.  This has MUCH higher bandwidth than the old, 16-bit pre-ECS
chips on your 2000.  If you are just doing number crunching (like ray
tracing), the GVP will do better.

The SCSI doesn't make much difference if you're just using hard drives
on a single-user machine.  It helps if you want tape drives, high
capacity removables (floptical, syquest, etc.), multiple users (like a
BBS), or more than two hard drives.  CBM will release a fast SCSI for the
4000 in the next couple months.  I can give you the press release if
you like.

Don't forget the cost of a new monitor (which you may want anyway with
OpalVision).  Also, don't forget that the 4000 comes with ADOS 3.0 and
two megs of chip RAM.

Besides, with two Amigas, you can play games on the 2000 while the
4000 does your number crunching.  Make sure you have plenty of desk
space!

--
Dan Zerkle  zerkle@cs.ucdavis.edu  (916) 756-5170
From: wayne@amtower.spacecoast.org (Wayne Summer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Reasons for Amiga CD-ROM
Distribution: world
Reply-To: wayne@amtower.spacecoast.orgX-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 4 Jan 93 03:17:51 EST
Organization: Wayne's Machine; Palm Bay, Florida

In article <1992Dec30.190716.7171@pro-freedom.cts.com> eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown) writes:
> > Yes, I said 1.3 Gigabytes.  There is no particular
> > reason why CD-ROM discs cannot be double-sided.  They are single-sided
> > now because the extra storage is not needed.
>
> No, they are single sided now because the read head is one of the most
> expensive parts in the CDROM drive and adding a 2nd read head would add a
> considerable increment to the price of these drives.  Can't say what that
> might be but something on the order of 50-60% doesn't sound too far off.
>
>
> * Edward E. Brown II             * Internet: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com *
> * Chemist On A Mission From GOD! * FidoNet: 1:105/135                *
> *--------------------------------------------------------------------*
>                Annoy the media...Think for yourself!
> ==============================================================
Wouldn't it very easy to simply flip them over like records? :-) :-)
I can't imagine a simgle program which would would take up more room than
could be provided on one side but a complete application could.
--
Wayne

 |=^=^=^=^=^=^=^=^=^=^=^=^=^=^=^=^=^=^=^=^=^=^=^=^=^=^=^=^=^=^=^|
 | Wayne Summer        //        AMIGA - Simply the Best.       |
 | Palm Bay, FL.     \X/                                        |
 |                              wayne@amtower.spacecoast.org    |
 |=v=v=v=v=v=v=v=v=v=v=v=v=v=v=v=v=v=v=v=v=v=v=v=v=v=v=v=v=v=v=v|
From: laubfrosch@tron.gun.de (Dieter Rosenhagen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re:WB 2.xx startup WITHOUT the window??
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:57:00 GMT
Organization: TRON Public Mailbox, Neuss, Germany

Am 06.01.93 um 20:09 schrieb JGODFREY%ZEUS.CALPOLY.EDU@USENET.ZER unter dem Betreff WB 2.xx startup WITHOUT the window??:

-> From: jgodfrey@zeus.calpoly.edu (Jon David "JET" Godfrey)
-> Subject: WB 2.xx startup WITHOUT the window??
-> Keywords: Amiga, WB, Startup, Window`
-> Message-ID: <1993Jan06.200955.547219@zeus.calpoly.edu>
-> Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
-> 
-> I'm wondering if there is a way to lauch the "LoadWB" command so that
-> when WorkBench pops on the screen it is just the background and not on
-> its own window.  I like the feature of changing it thru the menus, but I
-> prefer WB to be the background screen and am getting tired of the Amiga-B
-> command at every reboot.
-> 
-> Comments and contributions requested.
-> Thanks!
Change it with the menu "Workbench->Backdrop" and then save it with
the menu "Window->Snapshot".

Bye,
Laubfrosch.

>>>ZERBERUS-POINT FROM A.U.G.E. 4000 - LAUBFROSCH@TRON.ZER<<<
>>> laubfrosch@tron.gun.de | Dieter Rosenhagen (2:242/21.15)
-- THE ANSWER V2.03
From: ross@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ross Hippely - Manuals)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Commodity question
Summary: Not bad ideas
Keywords: documentation amigaguide
Date: 5 Jan 93 15:13:35 GMT
Reply-To: ross@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ross Hippely - Manuals)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1993Jan5.002843.46106@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:

[my response to a user's documentation gripes]

>I would like to make two suggestions.
>
>Include *ALL* relevant manuals with *ALL* machines (not just
>"high-end" machines) in Amigaguide format & / || ascii.

A nice idea indeed.  Purely from a documentation standpoint, we would love to
give every user every book.  From a more "practical" (i.e. bottom-line)
standpoint, this probably can't happen.  That being said, we do fully intend
to start producing some docs in AmigaGuide format, and that will go a long
way toward augmenting our docs in general, and making up for any lack of
printed docs that may be necessary.  

Note that dealing with the types of illustrations usually found in printed 
docs can be a serious hurdle in online docs.  AmigaGuide doesn't yet (I 
think) handle graphics, and ASCII certainly doesn't.

>Provide RKM's in Amigaguide or ascii format.  There's nothing less
>handy than having a computer that can search through hundreds of pages
>of text for that discussion of that function, etc. you need and not
>having the hundreds of pages of text in a manner the computer can
>read.  

Well, I know that the Autodocs currently exist in AmigaGuide format, I believe
on a CD-ROM.  But it would be good to have everything available on CD-ROM(s).
It's possible this is already being worked on.  (CATS does the RKMs, not us.)

>For the record, I though the 2.0 manual I received with my 3000 (way
>back when) was a *great* improvment over all previous C=
>documentation.  There was a good mix of idiot-proof instructions for
>the new user to get started with, and usable stuff.  I hope ARexx docs
>will continue to be included while C= supports it.  I think the 2.0
>documentation reflected C='s commitment to improving this fundemental
>user support.  

Thanks.

>               HOWEVER, I'm very dissappointed to hear manuals are not
>included with the new 1200's.  

You and a number of other folks...

>                              That kind of juvenille cost cutting
>does noone any good.  I would suggest that policy change.

I would too, if it were up to me ;-)

>jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
>James Miller

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: damiel@netcom.com (Paul Theodoropoulos)
Subject: Re: HERE HERE! *toast*
X-Spook-Fodder: hero heroin tree shrub bush birth life death FBI CIA NSA
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 02:48:22 GMT

In <C0M894.EEp@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick) writes:
>I'd just like to thank all the FreeWare/ShareWare programmers out there
>for making EXCELLENT stuff, comparable with commercial software.  You've
>made peoples' Amigas able to grow, without eating our wallets.  THANK
>YOU!
>    John Veldthuis (Virus_Checker)
>    Stefan Becker (ToolManager 2.0)
>    "Zop" (Csh)
>    Holger Kruse (ReOrg)
>    Ed Mackey (EdPlayer)
>    Nic Wilson (SysInfo)
>    Sebastiano Vigna (Mostra)
>And, of course, enormous thanks to Fred Fish!

i'll second that, and i'd like to add to the list:

	Stefan Stuntz (MagicFileRequestor2.0e)
	Torkell Lodberg (NComm2.0)[where are you Torkell??]
	J.E. Hanway (HamLabPlus 2.0.8)
	Greg Peters (Directory Master 1.1)[i only wish i had a current address
					   to send the shareware fee to]
	David Jenkins (ClockDJ 5.02)
	Fridtjof Siebert (MuchMore 3.0)

i use these programs so frequently, and they are all highly polished, friendly
and extremely useful.

Hats off to you guys!!


-- 
paul theodoropoulos     damiel@netcom.com     (hooools@well.sf.ca.us)

"Those who will trade essential liberty for promise of security will have
 neither" - Benjamin Franklin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu)
Subject: Amiga User Manuals (was Re: Commodity question)
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 17:34:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan2.085409.22121@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> jdickson@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Jeff Dickson) writes:
>In article <Gerard_Ng.0p9a@a68k.denver.CO.US> Gerard_Ng@a68k.denver.CO.US (Gerard Ng) writes:
>>
>>> All the Amiga user manuals are *not* written by programers but by doc
>> specialist.
>>
>>That doesn't mean that they are still any good. I am not a programmer but
>
>Whew! I'm not the only one who thinks they suck in comparison to the manuals 
>available on other platforms.
>
>Jeff
>

  What do people think of the ARexx section of the WB 2.0+ manual set?
  I thought it was pretty horrible.  And I'm an experienced C, C++,
  FORTRAN programmer.  The book by Zamara "Using ARexx on the Amiga"
  was a lot more informative and instructive, in my opinion.
From: rees@csa.bu.edu (David Rees)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Printer Driver for Panasonic kx-p2123
Date: 13 Jan 93 03:49:10 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: rees@csa


     Anyone know what Driver to use for this printer or if there is a driver
for it somewhere?  Thanks.
   ---Dave Rees   (rees@cs.bu.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: mashton@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (M.S. Ashton)
Subject: Re: Wing Commander
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:43:04 GMT

The amiga version *is* appauling.

However, for all the pretty graphics and speed a 486 might offer you, so is the
PC version.
The game is c**p ok? 
It's just plain rubbish.
I'd get more challenge from a shoe box during a philosophical argument.
It's a shoot-'em-up using the PCs only graphics ideal...The expanded sprite 
routine and my *god* does it look awful.
Don't come here waving your 486 about... Wing commander runs a 320*200 
resolution (on your machine too) and then proceeds to bump up the pixel sizes
by magnifying the images.
What a joke.

Only on a PC can one fighter craft fly through another and survive.
Some game to put forward as a clinching argument...
___
mashton@dcs.warwick.ac.uk
The best way not to be unhappy is not to have a word for it.

The opinions expressed are entirely those of myself and the little purple 
people that visit me from time to time.They are not those of my employer,
basically,because I haven't got one.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: thom@cs.mun.ca (Thomas Clancy)
Subject: NDOS Diskettes
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:22:39 GMT

Say, does anyone know how to boot from an NDOS diskette in RAD:?
ie: I can get the NDOS diskette INTO a RAD: but it won't boot
at a warm start as it normally would. The reason I ask is that
I want to put Power Monger into a RAD: and play from that instead
of a floppie. I have no problems with "normal" diskettes, just NDOS
type. No, the diskettes are not "copy protected" as such.
 
 Advance thanx,
 Thomas

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV)
Subject: Re: Gremlins are munching my memory! (FastRam)
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:51:30 GMT

crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:

>"Avail flush" seems to work if I type it from the CLI...I just need to remember
>to that, or create an ICON i can leave out, on the workbench to do it...
>AHH!!  And I have just the ICON!!  A silly one, my very first, that I have never
>found a use for!  Yep, that little blue fella now has a job to do... :>
> 
>So, will he be a tool or a project?  Just a CLI command...in the tool type
>section?                        

I used the loadwb -debug because my Workbench already looks lika a cartoon
storyboard.  Can't wait for my 1200 to get in so I can use better video 
modes than my poor ol' 500. 

Anyway, about the "avail flush" as an icon.  A way I *know* will work is to 
create a script file on the order of:

avail <nil: >nil: flush   ;The nil's are optional - depends on whether
endcli                    ;you want it to display the available mem or not.

and give it's icon the default tool "iconx".  (Project icon, of course.)

Hope this helps...
-- 
+ Rick __     + EMAIL:charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu +   //\          + /|\ It's +
|      /aylor | IRC  : Tomalek / The Romulan     | \X/--\miga 500 |  J rainy |
+-------------+----------------------------------+----------------+----------+
+ "Every Girl Already Has A Boyfriend" --- Murphy's Law Of Dating...         +
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: rlt20429@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Robert L. Thomas)
Subject: Re: Wing Commander Amiga
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:36:31 GMT


1. There is no AGA version.

2. How the hell did my last post end up in misc?

RT

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