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From: wcd2z@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (William Camden Daniel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Virginia vs NCSU game (was My Top 25)
Date: 12 Nov 92 03:09:52 GMT
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Organization: University of Virginia

Ah, in the immortal words of the great Neil Peart
"Ignorance prejudice and fear walk hand in hand."
You may call us spoiled now, but you are the one who is spoiled
when it comes to football.  You must see that the booing is
from the frustration at the coaching staff of the UVa football
team.  I realize that there are some spoiled stuck up people
here, but I don't like being grouped with them.  I am a
transfer student who is here for the education, not for a
chance to see a football game every week.  You can call the
folks here spoiled all you want, and you can have your Saturday
fun, but face it, you will probably work for one of them one
day, and then you might think "I wish I had been spoiled with
an education instead of with the right to talk trash about
football."

Flame on Flunky, and send me your resume while you are at it!
From: kitchel@manta.dpsi.com (Sidney W. Kitchel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: OU over OSU woof
Date: 13 Nov 92 20:27:37 GMT
Organization: Data Parallel Systems, Inc

dostalik@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Bill Dostalik) writes:
	[useless woof deleted]
>And look for at least one big pass play from Steve Collins in his final start
>as a Sooner.  He is 12-2 as a starter in 4 years, a better record than either
>Switzer or Wilkinson.

	Hmmmmmmm??? So you think 12-2 is good. How about Steve Davis'
30-1??? And as for Bud, he might point to 1954 to 1957. During those
four years his Sooners went 41-1. As for poor Barry, the best he could
do was his first 4 years (1973-1976) when his Sooner were 41-3-2. But
then again 12-2 does sound pretty good.

						soONEr bred!!!,
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From: ldr@lightnin.Columbia.NCR.COM (Dale Robbins)
Subject: Re: SEC East shoots itself in the foot
Organization: NCR Corp, E&M-Columbia, Columbia, SC
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 13:34:01 GMT

In article <398@rd1.interlan.com> tonyf@rm1.interlan.com (Tony Fernandez) writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.181603.24175@b11.b11.ingr.com>, mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell) writes:
>>In article <Bx63po.Erw@encore.com> jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich) writes:
>>>
>
stuff deleted
>
>I don't think that Alabama and the rest of the SEC schools just refuse to
>play Miami.  They refuse to play anyone good outside the Southeast.
>What more evidence do you need than just the fact that with very few
>exceptions (LSU-Texas A&M, Florida-FSU), SEC schools play very weak out
>of conference schedules.
I seem to remember some Orange and White team playing ND on a home and home 
schedule a couple of years ago.  Alos the same Orange and White team played
a very good UCLA team on a home and home base a few years back.  This same team
played the MNC Colorado Buffs the same year they played ND.  Of course this 
schedule pales in comparison to the likes of Miami.

signed,
Tired of the whining about who plays who!
LDR
>
>
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From: holt@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Richard Holt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: STANFORD/USC
Date: 5 Nov 1992 23:50:21 GMT
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
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I have two extra student section tickets for NOV 7
Stanford/USC  I will sell for $6 each

Richard Holt
415-497-2214
From: m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Apologies <Was: Nebraska defeats Colorado>
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:06:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: nntpd2.1992Nov10.210620.24114
Reply-To: m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp. (VMS Software Support - Colorado)

--
>  But then, I'm also guilty of reacting with attacks of my own. For that I
>apologize to any Colorado fans or any other fans who were insulted. I was 
>wrong to do that. It only creates a vicious circle of ugly insults that makes 
>everyone uncomfortable. Again, I'm sorry for propagating this kind of nonsense.

>  So lets put this year's feud behind us and look forward to a great game next
>year. In the meantime, GO BIG RED!!  ;-)


>Skip Burrell
 --

Yea this goes for me also. I do get obnoxious at times - I freely admit it.
My worst problem is the use of generalizations in my posts. I shall attempt
to "work on it".

Husker are BACK !!!

Husker Henderson

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From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Is this really true?
Date: 6 Nov 1992 21:51:35 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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Keywords: Bowl game,Pulan Weedeater Bowl

In article <1992Nov6.205907.29550@ttsi.lonestar.org> hbishop@ttsi.lonestar.org (Huett Bishop) writes:
>A Southern Miss Grad, and a Michigan and Alabama Fan. Go Eagles, M go Blue, Roll Tide,
>
   Does this mean you're qualified to tell us who's better, Michigan or        
   Alabama? Maybe then we could put a stop to this silly net argument.

   --salty
From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Michigan Arranges Tune-up for Irish
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:30:06 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan

In article <BxJ2F9.5L9@encore.com> jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich) writes:

   mike@spss.com (mike cornwall) writes:

   >Michigan has moved its 1993 against Washington State from Sept 18 to Sept 4.
   >That means that Michigan will now have a tune-up before they meet Notre Dame
   >on Sept 11.

   Gee that gives them 14 days instead of 7 to figure why they didn't beat ND :-)

You need to get some help for that tick, man.

Bill
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From: elfering@socrates.umd.edu (David J. Elfering)
Subject: Re: Big8 questions
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 01:56:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.085050@mccall.com> scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis) writes:
>
> (Text deleted)
>
>Now for the rest of you Big8 readers.
>Is there anything you'd like me to change, add or subtract 
>in my reports?  Preview, review, predictions.   Are the 
>reports getting to most of you before Friday.   I'd appreciate
>any constructive criticism [as well as any praise].
>--
As a Big8 fan I can positively say that your Big8 reports are one of the
things I really look forward to each week. I especially enjoy seeing the
game by game statistics, as the Maryland newspapers ignore anything that's
not ACC. One thing that might be neat to see in your weekly reports would
be the Big8 statistic standings...i.e. leading rushers, passers, total
team offense & defense. It would really give a clear picture of how the
teams are shaping up. I realize this may be too much work, or the info may
not be readily avaliable, so even if you don't make any additions I 'm
more than overjoyed to get the reports as they are right now. 

Dave Elfering  - A Husker fan in ACC land
elfering@socrates.umd.edu (Univ. Maryland)



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From: steve@geohub.gcn.uoknor.edu ()
Subject: Re: How CU could still win the Big 8 (hee hee)
Originator: usenet@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:29:09 GMT
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Reply-To: steve@geohub.gcn.uoknor.edu ()
Organization: Geosciences Computing Network/University of Oklahoma

Al,

   I guess being in Texas has gone to your head.   CU will NOT beat
Kansas!  The Jayhawks are much

   improved!  (Now CU fans dont get upset - Your just not as good this
year!)  I  see NU beating

   Kansas however so the big red from the north will go to the orange bowl .

    I guess we will see next week.

    Steve
From: swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: MS State, Florida, Bama
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:47:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: ducvax.1992Nov9.134756.1
Organization: Auburn University, AL

In article <1992Nov9.113259.1@ducvax.auburn.edu>, owen@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:
> 
> So, I still think they'll lose at least one of MSU/Auburn/(probably)
> Florida.  I think your keys to MSU's chances are correct; they have to
.
. (bama stuff deleted)
.
> 
> However, I like Auburn's chances better against Bama, not because I think
> they're necessarily a better team than MSU (they do less with more talent),
> but because they just match up better.  MSU's offense is more one-dimensional,

> Larry Owen

Aaaaaagggghhhh!  Not so loud Larry, the Woofing/Anti-Woofing Gods might hear
you!!!!  If you aren't careful, you'll doom all of us to a bunch of
disgusting bama victorys!!

In fact, to appease the W/AW Gods, I'll come out and say that:

Bama should easily beat MSU, Auburn and Florida.  Anything short of complete
dominance in each of these games can only be interpreted as MAJOR failure on
the part of the Tide.  As for Miami, that bunch of girly-men shouldn't even
be allowed on the same field with the red elephants!!

Bama lose???  HA!!  Never in a million years!!!!!!!!!

(feel free to jump in and give me some help any time now Floyd.  Floyd? 
FLOYD???)

-- 
David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@accs.duc.auburn.edu 
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From: acdendy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY)
Subject: Re: bowl games
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 13 Nov 1992 10:17 EST  

In article <1992Nov12.172233.25361@schbbs.mot.com>, C14577@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Debra Sullivan) writes...

>December 30
>Holiday        San Antonio, CA
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
No wonder I always get lost trying to find Sea World!!

R Dendy
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ISU-KSU Score?
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:19:13 GMT
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Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
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22-13 KSU.....bark.
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From: hpang@engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang)
Subject: Re: Some comments
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 11:10:24 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Nov8.075544.28678@cbfsb.cb.att.com> sager@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (mike.r.sager) writes:
>
>Washington loses in Arizona.  Why should Miami be ranked ahead of Washington
>just because they were fortunate enough tp play Arizona in Miami?  If the
>home fields were reversed, we very possibly would have had opposite results.
>

One possible reason:  The pollsters are stupid and don't care much.  I still
think that Miami would lost if the game is played at Arizona.  You're damn
right!

>Next issue.  Why isn't Florida State being given more credit?  Their only
>loss came in Miami by a slim margin.  They have road wins at Clemson, NC
>State, Georgia Tech, and Virginia which I think is pretty impressive.  Yet
>no one mentions them as a possible national champion.

One again, the possible reason is tha the pollsters are blind.

>
>Then we have Alabama, Michigan, and Texas A&M being considered as possible
>champions just because they're undefeated (except for Michigan's tie).  Would
>these teams be undefeated if they had Washington or Florida St's schedule?
>

Frankly, NO.  (Alabama may be able to beat both with a slim chance.  Texas
A&M have virtually no chance.  Michigan would got blow-out by FSU again.)

>
>I guess what I'm trying to say is, I don't think the rankings reflect the
>true ordering of teams in terms of strength.  It's all a matter of timing
>and circumstance.
>

What makes a college football team a MNC is not primarily based on how good a
team is, but how lucky it is.  Like Miami.  The Canes is damn tough, but I
still don't think it is the best team in the nation this year.

Unfortunately, most pollsters are blind, so we have to live with this mess
until a playoff system is made.

- Louis





Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: hpang@engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang)
Subject: Re: Roger's Top 25--GotW picks
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 20:34:55 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <TOMA.92Nov7193757@db.TC.Cornell.EDU> toma@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Rory Toma) writes:
>	Alternate Game otW	1 Washington
>				  vs
>				17 Arizona     Dogs bite Cats
>
>Hmm... Try #12 Arizona, and try a complete schelacking of UW by the Cat's
>D and the punter. The Cats are going for a New Year's Day bid. The Pac-10
								^^^^^^^^^^
>is definately the best conference by far this year. 3 or 4 teams could beat 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>anybody. Looking forward to an Orange or Cotton Bowl win for the Cats.
 ^^^^^^^
>--
>toma@tc.cornell.edu - Rory Toma
>

I agree wholeheartedly.  In particular, I still wonder if the Canes could 
survive a victory if the game is played at WildCats's homefield...

Probably not...


- Louis
From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: My Top 25
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:53:42 GMT

just to add another poll into the works, i thought i'd post my
vote to the rsfc poll, with a little commentary......

1. Alabama. Roll f*cking Tide, Roll. No real reason to put them ahead
            of Miami and A&M, but I dont like to move teams up on
            an idle week, so miami has to stay at #2
2. Miami
3. Tx A&M
4. Michigan
5. Florida State.  Remember how EVERYONE here seemed to think FSU would
                   lose 1 or 2 ACC games. HA!
6. Washington. Still a damn good team, of course, if they have to forfeit
               their first 8 games, they're hosed. Luckily they are looking
               at an easy rose bowl opponent.
7. Nebraska.   After looking not-so-great at Washington, this team is now
                kicking ass and taking names.
8. Arizona     Any team that can play Miami within 1 pt in miami and beat
               UW is an obvious top ten team, 3 blemishes aside.
9. Syracuse
10. ND
11. Colorado  
12. Florida    Talk about inconsistent. I cant really tell if this team is
               any good or not.
13. Georgia
14. NC State   They sure cleaned Virginia's clock. However, as UVA is in
               fold-up mode I think Navy could play 'em close now.
15. Bost College. I knew they werent a real top 10 team all along.
16. Stanford.  See comments about Florida
17. Miss State
18. Hawaii
19. Ohio St.
20. Kansas
21. Washington State
22. USC
23. Tennessee
24. Penn State
25. Charlie Ward. With 500+ yards total offense, Ward did better than most
                  teams this week. In the poll ill probably vote for a team,
                  though; most likely TCU for their upset, knocking Texas
                  out of the top 25, probably for good.

Flame/Woof away............

-rob


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From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Subject: Re: New A&M QB (was Lee Corso's prediction)
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:15:15 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <1992Nov9.211519.3781@ods.com> scott@ods.com writes:

> Jeff Goldberg (jeff@photon.cs.tamu.edu) wrote:
> : Did anyone watching the game notice the confidence that Slocum and Co.
> : showed in Pullig's ability to complete his passes?  For example, A&M
> : threw on 3rd and short several times, something that would have never
> : been called with Granger starting.  It's going to be much more difficult
> : for anyone to beat A&M with this change in their offense.
> 
> Not to mention the pass called on 4th and 2...

  Now that was a shocker.  I haven't seen the like of that at A&M since Kevin 
(I'm not *really* leaving a year early to appease the NCAA) Murray.  I'm also
extraordinarily surprised that they did it so soon, as opposed to a game or
so down the line (not that we've got all that many left) after Pullig had shown
consistency.  Likely they told him to run it unless he was CERTAIN of a comp-
letion.

  Another good thing was the receivers did not drop any passes (or very few).
This was hurting a lot.

  Nice flea-flicker, too.  Our offense is becoming fun to watch again, instead
of excruciating.


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
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From: privat@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Jim Privat)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:11:51 GMT
Subject: Re: Apple Cup (was Re: Washington vs. Arizona)
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/ hpcc01:rec.sport.football.college / chyang@australorp.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) /  2:46 pm  Nov  8, 1992 /

> I remember the years that you described well.  In 1984, the
> Huskies were undefeated until they played the Cougs.  They went 
> a head to defeat Oklahoma in the 1985 Orange Bowl and ended up ranking
> 2nd in the AP pole behind BYU.  In that case the Woof God only struck
> once.  I seriously doubt that he/she will strike again.  

I think your memory is a bit off here.  The Huskies have never been
undefeated going into the WSU game except for last year.  (maybe
they've been undefeated in Pac-10 play sometime or another).

I believe that USC gave Washington its only loss the year that
Washington beat Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl.  There's no way that
UW could have ended up as high as #2 after having lost their last
regular-season game against WSU.

I can actually remember WSU knocking UW out of the Rose Bowl *twice*
in the last 10-12 years, but those were different years than the
Huskies Orange Bowl season.

Jim Privat
jimp@hpwss401.mayfield.hp.com
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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: For sale Stanford-Washington football ticket CHEAP !
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:38:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.222356.2333@EE.Stanford.EDU> hadar@boreas.Stanford.EDU  
(Hadar Avi-Itzhak) writes:

> Subject: For sale Stanford-Washington football ticket CHEAP !

> I have an extra ticket for the game on Saturday, Nov. 14 at the Stanford
> Stadium Student Section !

I wasn't anticipating a rematch.  Best 0 out of 3, Mr. Tree?
Or can I have a price quote on that swampland...

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From: blythes@cs.rpi.edu (Stephen Blythe)
Subject: Re: Northern Iowa no longer unbeaten
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:57:28 GMT

In article <BxGnBJ.E57@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, poutsmaj@mace.cc.purdue.edu (unknown) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov9.100806@mccall.com> scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis) writes:
|> >
|> >In article <1992Nov07.223140.22719@ux1.cts.eiu.edu>, cfnag@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Norm Garrett) writes:
|> >>FLASH!
|> >>
|> >>Eastern Illinois has just defeated previously unbeaten Northern Iowa in a

|> Now, if I'm right, all the IAA teams have at least one loss against other
|> IAA teams (I'm not sure about Delaware).  It looks to be a wide open playoffs

FYI: Delaware's only loss came to div. II (yep, thas right div. II) West Chester
early this season; the score was 21-20. They play every year and *always* give
Delaware a hard time ...

-steve

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From: irwin@uvmark.uucp (Frank Irwin)
Subject: Re: What's the Bowl picture?
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 22:42:40 GMT
Organization: VMARK Software, Inc.

In article <1992Nov5.165712.28256@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (odagleD niveK) writes:
>In article <1992Nov05.022016.187411@zeus.calpoly.edu> aholdern@zeus.calpoly.edu (Andrejs Abolins Holderness) writes:
>>In article <Bx74pA.JJB@ra.nrl.navy.mil> salas@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Miguel Salas) writes:
>>>So far it's looking like the following:
>>>
>>>Orange Bowl:Nebraska/BC or ND?
>>>Cotton Bowl:Texas/FSU?
>>>Sugar Bowl:Alabama/Miami?
>>Blockbuster Bowl: Penn St./Slippery Rock  would be a good matchup
>
>Wow! I didn't think there was anyone else out there who had ever heard of
>good old slimey pebble! I used to live there...can't remember what their team
>was like...if they had one even!

Don't know if they still do it, but the announcer at the University of
Texas football home football games used to always announce the score
of the Slippery Rock game.

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