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From: stanm@comm.mot.com (Stan Macasieb)
Subject: WLS-AM/FM Flipflop Flops 
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Motorola
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:11:12 GMT

In this morning's _Tribune_ the head of Group Two broadcasting, the radio
arm of Cap Cities-ABC, reiterated his position that WLS-AM/FM will remain
all-talk, that the decision to stick with all-talk and forgo a switch
to country was not precipitated by Infinity's purchase of WUSN-FM (99.5). 

Whatever it is, Don Wade and Roma and the gang is safe, for now. 


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Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: bri@nic.cerf.net (Brian Rice) 
Subject: Re: 98.9 FM San Francisco 
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: CERFnet
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 05:33:37 GMT


In article <1992Aug12.065856.1466@gagme.chi.il.us> ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed
Suranyi) writes:
>In article <1992Aug7.174930.316@gagme.chi.il.us>
mark@attain.ICD.Teradyne.COM (Mark Guidotti) writes:

>>It's another hard rock station in a market with five others (KSJO, KOME,
KUFX, KRQR, KFOG). 

>I was SHOCKED (delightedly so) to hear "Running Up That Hill"

Yeah, but ain't it amazing that we have yet-another-bay-area-radio
station that misses the point on local talent?  And how do you like
a station that brags about getting into the art of the art and doesn't
have Van Morrison on the playlist?

--
Bri
From: nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.EDU (Mark Shneyder 432-4219)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
Subject: Infinity buys another Boston station
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:03:33 GMT
Organization: Harvard Univ
Originator: wdp@gagme


Infinity Broadcasting which owns WBCN(104.1) in Boston agreed to acquire
the parent company of WZLX(101.7),Cook Inlet Radio Partners. The deal
also includes stations in Chicago and Atlanta.

Farid Suleman,chief financial officer of Infinity Broadcasting denied
reports in both Boston dailies that Infinity would bring Howard Stern
to WZLX. WZLX's GM Jerry Charm said that Infinity's president Mel Karmazin
was in Boston on Monday and assured the staff the station would remain
separate.

It might be December before the transaction is official. Personally,
I feel Howard will be on the WZLX air around the same time. You have to
remember that Charm and ZLX's PD John Shomby are speaking as Cook Intel
employees as of now. When Infinity takes over they'll have speak the
company line. They may not even be there in December. This is the ever
changing world of radio afterall.

-Mark


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Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi)
Subject: Re: 98.9 FM San Francisco 
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: UC Davis Dept of Applied Science at LLNL
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 06:58:56 GMT

In article <1992Aug7.174930.316@gagme.chi.il.us> mark@attain.ICD.Teradyne.COM (Mark Guidotti) writes:
>I concur with John Higdon. It sounds like they're simply using liners with
>non-traditional language (e.g. "screw the rules").   It's another hard rock
>station in a market with five others (KSJO, KOME, KUFX, KRQR, KFOG). 
>Although their brand skews very hard - lots of metal.   

I was SHOCKED (delightedly so) to hear "Running Up That Hill"
by Kate Bush and "Solisbury Hill" by Peter Gabriel on this station
within the last few days.  So although it's true that they play
mostly hard rock, their playlist does seem to be larger than
any other hard rock station in town.

Ed
ed@wente.llnl.gov


Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: hofkin%pebbles@uunet.UU.NET (Bob Hofkin)
Subject: Re: *** WHAT WOULD __YOU__ DO? *** 
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: GAGME - Public Access UNIX of Chicago, Illinois, USA, Earth
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 06:10:33 GMT

: [Moderator's Note:  Whoever this 'bonehead' is, nobody can seem to get mail
: to him.   I guess the site name says it all :-)]

'bonehead' may refer to the way systems are administered -- something
went wrong in the mail munger, but until someone fixes it, I've put a
"Reply-To" line with the RIGHT address in my headers.

Sorry about that, Chief!

Bob Hofkin
hofkin@software.org


Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: barry@dgbt.doc.ca (Barry McLarnon)
Subject: SCA Data Equipment?
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: The Communications Research Centre, Ottawa, Canada 
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:52:02 GMT

I'm looking for sources of equipment used to transmit and receive data
via FM subcarrier (SCA).  I know about Modulation Sciences, and I have
adequate info on sources for RDS equipment, but I'd like to know about
any other SCA data equipment out there.  Any leads would be appreciated...
Please reply by email to barry@dgbt.doc.ca.

Thanks in advance...

Barry

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: mayer@miami.ucs.indiana.edu (Darla Stewart)
Subject: More on Dr.Demento
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 06:07:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.152409.19113@gagme.chi.il.us> pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul W Schleck KD3FU)  writes:
>
>This begs the following questions:
>
>1.  Who carries it?  (I believe it is part of the Westwood One network)

Several stations still air it.  A check with Westwood One should get you a 
station locally, or nearby where you can hear it.  Call Westwood One in LA.

>2.  Why don't more stations carry it?  (is it too expensive or
>narrowcasted or obscure or just plain wierd?)

It's a hard sell.  Basically, it is too narrow cast for any prime slot. Most
stations that do air it place it in obscure slots, like 12-2AM.  (it is a
2 hour show)

>3.  Besides the usual letter-writing campaign, what are good strategies
>to get it on locally?  Any good satellite audio feeds for it?

Getting a station to carry it may be tough, but you can call and speak with
the program directors at most stations.  Many may not be aware of the 
program.

RE: Satellite feeds.  Westwood One programming feeds on Satcom C5, Transponder
15, and it's 15kHz stereo.  I believe it's channels 13 & 14, but I could be
wrong, it's been a while since I dealt with WWO long form.  The problem here
is that it's DATS (maybe SEDATS) digital, and even the cheap Fairchild Dart
receiver is very expensive.  One other note:  WWO does provide the program on
vinyl disc (or did, a year or so ago).  

By the way, it's a barter program.  No $$, the station just has to air the 
network spots built in to the program.

>4.  I know the show has spawned several good compilation albums (and was
>probably the major impetus for Wierd Al Yankovich).  Is this the kind of
>thing your friendy local record store would know of, or are more obscure
>sources required?

Your record store can get them. One was on Warner records, and there are at
least 2 CD collections... I recommend the 20th Anniversary set from Rhino
records, in record stores now, since it contains everything on the "Greatest
Novelty CD Of All Time" and several others.




Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: wdp@airwaves.chi.il.us (William Pfeiffer)
Subject: Chicago, Boston and Atlanta station sales
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Airwaves, The little Unix that could (and does)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:11:34 GMT

Right on the heels of the news that WLS AM/FM may go country, now the word is
out that WUSN (US-99), Chicago's ONLY existing country outlet is being sold
to Infinity Broadcasting, who already ownes WJMK 104.3 (oldies) and WJJD
1160-AM, (40's thru (non-rock) 60's nostalgia).  Infinity will be purchacing
the country outlet, along with WZLX FM in Boston and WZGC FM in Atlanta, from
Washington DC based 'Cook Inlet Radio Partners' a partnership of 6500 Alaskan
Native Americans.  

The aquasition of WUSN by Infinity will give them a commanding 12.5 share in
the Chicago market.  The sale is now pending FCC approval.  Indications are
that Infinity may not combine US-99 with it's other holdings in Chicago, but
rather 'leave well enough alone' and allow US-99 to continue autonomous
operations.  

Mel Karmazin, president and chief executive officer of Infinity is quoted in
the Rob Feder column of the Chicago Sun Times as indicating that the current
Cook Inlet properties are quite successful, and therefore Infinity is looking
to work 'with' current management.  Steve Ennen, General Manager of WUSN
echos these sentiments saying that he knows of no plans to change the format
or personnel at his station.  Mr Ennen says "If anything, we will have some
nuclear armament that we've never had before, in terms of promotion and other
resources, to do battle".

US-99 is currently 'on a roll' with it's promotion and marketing.  Plans are
underway to start a local TV show, featuring country videos, hosted be US-99
jocks.  The show, 'US-99's Video Country' is to be aired on local UHF signal
WGBO TV-66 beginning September 19.

The purchace of WUSN by Infinity has raised some speculation that ABC/Capitol
Cities may think twice about changing their Chicago stations over to country. 
Infinity may prove to be more aggressive, and have deeper pockets, than the
current owners if it comes to a promotion war.  But then again with radio,
like with the weather, anything can happen.

I have no information on the situation with the Boston or Atlanta stations. 
Perhaps Scott Fybush has some more info on the Boston signal.

William
From: twhalen@csi.uottawa.ca (Tim Whalen)
Subject: getting experience at radio stations
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 05:35:09 GMT

If you're interested in getting into radio broadcasting a good place to start
is at a Canadian University radio station (I don't know if the US does
this...probably).  I worked at CFUV on FM in Victoria B.C. for a few months. 
It's great! You can usually get to do news and sports  reports in very little
time.  They had practice booths where you would tape yourself and play it 
back....it can really help you hear where you might lisp, for instance....or
just not pronounce certain words very well.  The environment was relaxed and
the people involved were very knowledgeable.  It's harder to get your own
show.  You have to be very good...the more natural, the better.  

CFUV labelled itself as 'alternative' radio.  I didn't really like the music.
but it was very  exciting doing sports reports!  CFUV estimated that they had
a listening audience of approximately 20000 in Victoria, and when I left,
they were broadcasting far up Vancouver Island. (of course, there is much
more to broadcasting than being a broadcaster.....reporting, sound
engineering, writing news casts....) 


  Tim



Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: yag@eng.umd.edu (Eric Funk)
Subject: Re: *** WHAT WOULD __YOU__ DO? ***
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 05:34:20 GMT

In article <1992Aug7.175948.796@gagme.chi.il.us>, Bob Hofkin <hofkin%bonehead@uunet.UU.NET>  writes:

 >A new low-power AM station in the Washington, DC area emphasizes local
 >performers.  I don't know if this would be successful in many places
 >(we have a lot of folk-type performers around the metro area).  Heck,
 >I'm not sure it's going to work here.
 >

Is this station for real?

 I'd love to listen since I live in the DC area. What is the
frequency and power? (Sorry to use news but the Mailer-daemon bounced my mail to you back)

 --yag@eng.umd.edu --N3BYP

Eric Funk (University of Maryland)

[Moderator's Note:  Whoever this 'bonehead' is, nobody can seem to get mail
to him.   I guess the site name says it all :-)]
-- 


Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: mayer@miami.ucs.indiana.edu (Darla Stewart) 
Subject: Re: Dr. Demento, anyone?
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 06:11:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug5.021728.28808@gagme.chi.il.us> Nigel.Allen@lambada.oit.unc.edu writes:
> 
>[Moderator's Note:  Wasn't it Westinghouse (Group W) which bought NBC radio?
>I know that ex-NBC outlet WMAQ in Chicago is now Group W.]

Sorry... WestWood One bought NBC Radio.  The network, not any of the O&O 
stations.  WWO now owns their own net (basically long form programming), and
several years ago they bought Mutual from Amway (yes, Amway owned Mutual for
a while).

The WWO group is now Westwood One, Mutual and NBC.


Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: lagnaf@camelot.bradley.edu (Jeremy Styninger)
Subject: Re: Radio station Contests
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Bradley University 
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:47:22 GMT

>In article <1992Aug7.002010.19436@gagme.chi.il.us> wa2ise@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (robert.f.casey)  writes:
>>Was wondering how effective contests are in boosting listenership (for the
>>rating periods!).  I personally find contests to be of very little
>>incentive to listen to a station over another station.  It might cause

We have had very good response with our "Room at a time" giveaway.  It
started with a new kitchen, and has progressed through the family room
and yard.  The way it works is we get a local merchant, say for
example a kitchen store, to give away a complete room, in this case
$8500 worth of appliances, flooring, cabinits and installation.  

We get a killer promotion and the merchant gets a four week commercial
in return.  The listeners have to stop by the business to pick up a
fact sheet which they will need when they call in, creating floor
traffic.

Participation has been outstanding.  We normally register around 300
people over three weeks for the drawing, which is held onthe last day
of the ratings book of course, and around 10,000+ pick up the fact
sheets.  In the off time people even call up asking when the next one
is.

The key to good promotions isn't loads of money or crappy trinkets.
It's in making it worthwhile.  Everybody wants to remodel their house.

Jerm (lagnaf@camelot.bradley.edu)
WMBD-AM
Where the morning show is #1 12+ !

Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: mdavis@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michael Davis)
Subject: WLS AM/FM switching to Country format
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois. 
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 01:29:41 GMT

Radio/TV columnist Rob Feder of the Chicago Sun-Times reports in today's
(Monday, 8/17) issue that WLS is changing formats again.  It is dropping its
talk format and going to Country. 

The AM format "would harken back to the station's 'Prarie Farmer' days as home of 'The National Barn Dance' which
aired from 1925 to 1960."

The FM format "would appeal to the younger end of the target group (ages 25 to
54) with a contemporary country sound."

MWD

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Go Carolina Gamecocks!    +
+ Go Northwestern Wildcats! +
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++





Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: rcoryell@well.sf.ca.us (Roger Coryell)
Subject: San Francisco 'Dance' Stations
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:08:42 GMT

In <1992Aug18.201300.1366@gagme.chi.il.us> lightw@cetra.trl.OZ.AU (Liron
Lightwood) writes: 

 >Just out of interest, how many Top 40 type hit muisc stations that play
 >pop and dance music are there in the [San Francisco] bay area?  I would be
 >interested in the comparison.

Well, there's KMEL  and KSOL... they are the dominant pop/dance outlets.
They *both* skew very urban. Geez... how's that for jargon ?

Rcoryell@well.sf.ca.us
Roger Coryell/KKSF/ 77 maiden lane/ San Francisco CA/ 94108

Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi)
Subject: Re: 98.9 FM San Francisco
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: UC Davis Dept of Applied Science at LLNL
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 06:00:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.053337.5266@gagme.chi.il.us> bri@nic.cerf.net (Brian Rice) writes:
>
>In article <1992Aug12.065856.1466@gagme.chi.il.us> ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed
>Suranyi) writes:
>>I was SHOCKED (delightedly so) to hear "Running Up That Hill"
>
>Yeah, but ain't it amazing that we have yet-another-bay-area-radio
>station that misses the point on local talent?  And how do you like
>a station that brags about getting into the art of the art and doesn't
>have Van Morrison on the playlist?

Listen, it's ridiculous to criticize a particular radio station because
of what they DON'T play.  No matter what a station plays there's always
an infinite number of pieces that they don't play.  Everyone can make
up lists of songs that they'd like to hear on the radio, but don't.
The important thing is what they DO play.  Do you like the songs that
they play?  Do you dislike the songs that they play?  That's the only
reasonable basis on which to decide whether to listen to a particular
station.  Of course, you can always call up a particular station and
request a song.  But in any case, you still have to decide based on
what they DO end up playing.

We all wish there'd be a radio station that would play nothing but
stuff we think is good.  That will never come to pass.

Ed
ed@wente.llnl.gov


Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: stanm@comm.mot.com (Stan Macasieb)
Subject: Re: WLS changes formats... Again
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Motorola
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:10:48 GMT

This switch for WLS AM-FM to country makes me wonder if either WMAQ-AM's (670)
switch from country to all-news was a mistake or if 'MAQ knows something
the dim lights at 'LS don't know.

The AM side has been in need of a country station since WJJD-AM (1160) and
'MAQ dropped their country formats. And, as previously pointed out, 'LS
is a clear channel station a la 'MAQ, so at least 'LS may get the hardcore
listener waiting for the day WMAQ was gonna make them rich again.

It's sad to see a station like WLS-AM, for years a leader in country music 
and, later, mainstream rock, flopping about looking for Arbitron numbers.
Gotta remember, though, that the AM side has been kinder to ABC than the
FM side, where the competition has been meaner and where the format has
flopped about more frequently. 

There is still room for all-talk. Could this move by WLS renew speculation
that WMAQ might flop over to all-talk? 

Whatever happens, Chicago and all late-night truckers around the Midwest
will be happy to hear the dulcet tones of the Grand Old Opry, as well
as Garth and Billy Ray, over WLS-AM again. Question is, will there be 
enough? Truckers don't carry around Arbitron books with them, right? :)

--Stan Macasieb (stanm@comm.mot.com) Yee-Haw!

Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: lisac@pegasus.att.com
Subject: Blake and BJ on Double 99, San Francisco
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: ATT
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 05:34:41 GMT

Re: the  current (temporary waiting for Howard?) morning team on
KDBK/KDBQ:

Blake Lawrence has worked a lot of places: Colorado (mid 70s),
Pittsburgh (78), Houston (early 80's)  Boston - wCDJ-96.9 (late 80s)

BJ is from WCMF Rochester, THE Album rock station in town.

Can anyone tape the Blake and BJ show for me please? 
Email if you can post to net if it bounces   THANKS  *LISA*

[Moderator's Note:  As my private mail indicated, I will be happy to foreward
my copy of this show to you (which I got from Mark in San Fran).  Send a
mailing address and Ill ship it right out.  Thanks Mark]


*****************************************************************************
It's not so bad to have my name.  I could have been a male born to
the Hertz family, and they named me Richard.
Apparently true fact:  The engineer at WYSP is Richard Bagg.

[Another Mod Note:  Question:  Does Richard Bagg's middle initial happen to
be 'S."? ... Sorry.]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: 9LORKIN@WINVMJ.VNET.IBM.COM  ("Julian Lorkin")
Subject: Simulcasts  
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: IBM
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:52:25 GMT

>I wonder why more stations don't just have both AM & FM broadcast
>equipment to get the best of both bands.  It seems they could make a
>killing they would have the high local quality and also be able to
>keep listeners at a distance.

Are you SERIOUS?!?!? Yes, Ok, perhaps some listeners who like the station
will switch from FM to AM when they get out of range, but most simulcast
stations seem to ignore the AM altogether, leaving it out of jingles,
promos etc... A sample of 3 local simulcasts shows that their jingles
all of the 'Fantastic wonderful multi-coloured FM' variety, and then
once an hour '...also on AM'. Not one even quoted the AM frequency.
So how are listeners to know where to go?

  Just as you need to promote FM to get listeners, you need to promote
Medium Wave, otherwise the listenership for the AM will get older and
eventually ... erm ... die off (perhaps literally!)

  As an example a local station County Sound (SRH network) simulcast
AM and FM _over_the_same_area_ (so this won't slew the statistics)
and one week the FM TX went down at about coffee time. The next week the
same thing happened, only with the AM TX.

  There were more calls from AM listeners than from FM ones: but the AM
listeners were in general older. Maybe this is because they are the old
dears more likely to worry, and hence phone in, or maybe they just can't
tune a radio to save their lives, and once they've got it on the AM,
never want to change station. Maybe younger listeners are the ones that
have digitally tuned radios, so they are the ones to hit another preset
when the station they are listening to dies. Who knows.

  Anyway there is another, and MUCH more important point. Simulcasting
is such a waste of bandwidth. Why have one station when you have room
for two?

Julian Lorkin.

Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: genghis@uiuc.edu (Tim Elliott)
Subject: Re: Stations sold, bought etc.
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: UIUC Computing Services Office
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 06:11:33 GMT

fybush@unixland.natick.ma.us (Scott Fybush) writes:

>WMAQ was sold to Group W under an odd arrangement which allowed
>NBC to keep using the WMAQ-TV calls on its Channel 5 in Chicago.
>WMAQ and WMAQ-TV are not commonly owned, but operate out of
>separate offices in the NBC Tower in Chicago.

ah-hah!  i was very puzzled to see a television ad saying that 'MAQ was
broadcasting CNN news... !

//tim
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: scott@asd.com (Scott Barman)
Subject: Infinity buys stations
Originator: @gagme
Organization: American Software Development Corp., West Babylon, NY
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:04:37 GMT

I recently heard that Infinity Broadcasting, which owns Howard Stern's
home base of WXRK in New York (among others), has bought several other
radio stations.  Does someone have the list of the ones they bought?  I
know they include radio stations in Boston and Atlanta.

[Moderator's Note:  They are planning to buy WUSN, Chicago's
only country station.]

-- 
scott barman			| <This space intentionally left blank>
scott@asd.com			|
 (I can barely speak for myself, you expect me to speak for my employer??)

Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: andy@s50.es.llnl.gov (Andy Tompson)
Subject: Re: Question: Origin of word 'radio'?
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Unknown
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:12:19 GMT

Based upon my handy Webster's dictionary, most "radio"-like words (e.g.,
radio == radiotelegraphy, radiation, radiant energy, ...) ultimately stem from the 
Latin "radius" = ray.