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From: st902523@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (David Miller)
Subject: Re: Great Idea
Reply-To: st902523@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 21:11:08 GMT

In article <7249665553189@spatial.eid.anl.gov>, shugrue@spatial.eid.anl.gov (Leon Shugrue) writes:
>What a great idea, man. Hey, why don't we begin with a thread
>about the best reggae clubs, bars, jams, anything, in the major cities
>of the Western Hem., especially where I'm from - Chicago. 
>
>I love reggae, but don't see a lot around Chi-town. I've heard the
>name Biddy's, and I know there's a R. bar near Wrigley, but I've no
>details.
>
Yo wusup?

I'm outta the Chi myself.  I think tthat there are two Reggae clube in uptown. 
I'm formthe Southeast side.The only thing is you havfe to be 21 an dI hjust
turned 20 3 weeks ago.  I think one is called Dreads.
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
From: perry@lheavx.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brendan Perry)
Subject: Re: Iron, Lion, Zion
Followup-To: rec.music.reggae
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 13:41:24 GMT

In article <dlcogswe.724988798@vela>, dlcogswe@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Dan
Cogswell) wrote:
> 
> Hmmmm... This is turning into a Marley group.  Wonder why... :-)
> 
> I keep hearing "Iron, Lion, Zion" on the radio and I'm wondering what
> the deal is on this song.  If it was recorded >10 years ago, why does it
> sound so contemporary??  Did they remix/re-record the song recently?  Maybe
> Bob was just far ahead of his time.
> 
> -- 
> Dan Cogswell               Or as we say in Michigan:  "Dee-troit"

Greetings,

A local radio station here is touting the 'new' "Iron,Lion,Zion" tune
as something Rita found a tape of after he died and had it remixed for
the recently released 'Box Set' on CD. 

Brendan
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: Re: Dub it to me
Keywords: dub
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:30:04 GMT
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <malcolm.725007752@wrs.com> malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:
>...but I have yet to find the really mind
>searing spaced out heavy dub that I hear hints of once in awhile. 
>I want loads of echo, pans and sounds like the universe is
>being ripped apart at the seams in front of me


Two words: Mad Professor


>I keep getting pointers to African Headcharge, but that stuff is
>very steeply priced - is it worth it? 

Yes.  The best stuff from their first four albums is out on two discs,
titles I can't remember (they'll be obvious, though, they have "volume 1"
and "volume 2" in the title).  Also the CD _Songs of Praise_ is excellent,
although it's not as twisted as the early stuff; it's more African in 
an On-U sort of way than spaced out in an On-U sort of way.

You are also required to have much Prince Far I within easy reach at all times.





-- 
Ray Shea                                      
UniSQL, Inc.                             Sometimes I feel like a blue dog.
unisql!ray@cs.utexas.edu                                     -- The Blue Dog
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From: hans@castlerock.East.Sun.COM (Hans Hrasna)
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: Norwells
Date: 22 Dec 1992 16:47:46 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
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	Ya man, glad to see this newgroup surface! 

I've been looking for an album by The Norwells or Norwalls (sp?)
that I don't know the name of but I think it was released by Island
records around 1982 and one of the tunes on it is called
 "Trial & Tribulation".

Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
From: tomh@wes.on.ca (Tom Haapanen)
Subject: Re: UB40
Organization: Waterloo Engineering Software
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 15:33:46 GMT

mcginnisj@woods.ulowell.edu writes:
> 	I was just wondering if anyone had any comments on the group UB40.
> I know that they are supposedly reggae, but I heard they weren't very good.
> Any comments or opinions??

Well, I suppose beauty is in the eye (or ear?) of the beholder, but UB40 is
one of my favourite groups.  While they are British, over 50% white and
somewhat more commercial than some "pure" groups (but decidedly less so than,
say, recent Third World), they are most decidedly first and foremost a
reggae group.

While some of UB40's most popular hits have been covers of earlier reggae
greats from Labour of Love and Labour of Love II (such as Red Red Wine and
Kingston Town -- my wife's favourite), most of their material is original.
Like Marley, they are not afraid to make statements or take a stand on issues.

Take a listen to some of their best material --  my favourites include "One
in Ten", "King", "Present Arms", "Riddle Me" and "Burden of Shame".  They
have a distinctive sound, they have excellent lyrics and they are quite
danceable.

If you're interested in getting into UB40, I'd recommend starting with either
their debut album (with the British unemployment form, UB40, on the cover)
or Jeffery Morgan.  While the Labour of Love albums are packed with great
old reggae tunes (most from the pre-political era), they don't give you any
impression of UB40's songwriting skills.

Just my opinions...

[ \tom haapanen    "i don't even know what street canada is on" -- al capone ]
[ tomh@wes.on.ca                   "trust the programmer" -- ansi c standard ]
[ waterloo engineering software      "to thine own self be true" -- polonius ]
From: robkat@west.darkside.com (Robkat, BOYEEE!)
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: re:  dub pointers
Date: 22 Dec 92 19:56:14 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM

"I've been there a bit already - got some LKJ, Agustus Pablo,
Lee Perry, Upsetters, but I have yet to find the really mind
searing spaced out heavy dub that I hear hints of once in awhile.
I want loads of echo, pans and sounds like the universe is
being ripped apart at the seams in front of me. Skip the drum
machines unless they're very tastefully done, lay on the heavy
bass and crank up the volume, kick back and close your eyes..."

african head charge 'songs of praise' - yeah, steeply priced i guess, but 
this is the shit you're looking for.  it's not really dub anymore, 
african head charge truly defies description.  how about 'very heavy 
downbeat riddim that nods toward dub but with incredible vocal samples 
over the top.'

dub syndicate 'stoned immaculate' - i know, i'm an on-u junky, but this 
is another great dub piece (and listening to the song 'stoned immaculate' 
while stoned on a bumping system is a good thing).

mad professor 'psychedelic dub' - not the same ultra production as the 
adrian sherwood material, but more 'authentic' sounding and, as the name 
suggests, the album is very...uh...'trippy'.

prince far i 'cry tuff dub encounter' - recently released onto cd by 
danceteria/roir, prince far i's music ranges from heavy dub poetry to 
funny tales about nothing in particular.  his dub music is really good, 
never too much of anything, just quality, you know?

can anybody recommend anything from niney the observer?  king tubby?  
twinkle brothers?  creation rebel?  the scientist?  other wicked dub shit 
(releases i might have missed from lee perry or others)?

on a tangent, you might want to try and find a collections entitled 
"ambient dub vol. 1 - the big chill".  now i haven't actually heard it 
but what i've heard about it makes my mouth water (i'm currently trying 
very hard to locate this cd - does anybody have any suggestions?).
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
From: pat@gsfc.nasa.gov (patrick m. ryan)
Subject: theme from "Cops"
Summary: inner circle
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 02:15:35 GMT

	Anyone know anything about the band Inner Circle?  They
are listed in the credits for the Fox t.v. show, "Cops", as playing
the theme song.  It's a catchy tune which is called something like
"Bad Boys".
	Any info about them would be appreciated.

thanks,
pat

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Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: Re: Messenjah and other Canadian Reggae
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: The Bates Motel
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 20:23:10 GMT

mike@jammin.nosc.mil (mike pawka) writes:
>	I've been looking for anything by the Canadian group "Messenjah"
> on CD.  Schanachie has a couple of cassettes. Anybody outside of the
> U.S. seen anything?

I was glad to see that the boys are still together and appeared in
Brooklyn somewhere in late '91 ... their main problem is that their
material is Canadian issue and can only be gotten by import ... here
is an address for a service in Vancouver (I'm not connected to them
nor anyone else) that specializes in world/ethnic music, among other
things.  Another place in Toronto that people have tried is also
listed.



If you're looking for "import" CDs, Canada is also another possible
source before going overseas.  Nou Dadoun (dadoun@cs.ubc.ca), who
posts now and again, is connected to Black Swan Records in Vancouver,
B.C.  but cannot publicize that in first person due to USENET ethics.
Stuff from the Canadian CD Versions list and other imports are often
found as Canadian domestics due to different importation laws and
different market dynamics (smaller market, need more than mass volume
sales).  You can reach them at:

        Black Swan Records
        2936 West 4th Avenue
        Vancouver, B.C.
        CANADA   V6K 1R2

        (604) 734-2828
        (Pacific time, so you can wait 'til it's cheap to call)

     "... specialize in non-mainstream tunes, jazz, folk, world/ethnic
     music, etc. And for the last year or so, we've been spinning off
     a fairly healthy mailorder business."

Black Swan issued their first catalog this summer; while they
specialize in folk and "world" music, I'm sure that they can
easily order Canadian and "import" titles since they deal with 
the same distributors anyways.

I've never used him, as I can just call up my brother, and otherwise
only know him as a bloke on the net; his userid is not for business
usage, unfortunately.  I have no other connection to this guy, your
dealings would be strictly with him; this is just the easiest,
simplest, laziest way for me to connect you with a source up north.

Another place that comes from word of mouth recommendations is:

   THE CD BAR +1 416 977 6863 (fax +1 416 977 6865, also phone)
    281 Queen St W.
    Toronto, Ontario M5V 1Z9 (CANADA)
        Imports from around the world, will ship anywhere. Visa, 
        Mastercard, no COD (no AMEX) checks (but you have to wait 
        for it to clear.)

gld
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From: MJFORRES@SUVM.SYR.EDU (maurice)
Subject: Re: Please Help Identify This Recording
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 17:20:26 EST

In article <1992Dec30.224803.5237@leland.Stanford.EDU>
jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey) writes:
 
>        When I was in Amsterdam about four years ago, I heard a song in
>a reggae bar that was a reggae/ska version of "When Jonny Comes Marching
>Home."  Or perhaps one might better call it a psychedelic reggae/ska
>version of that song.
 
I don't know that I'd describe it as "psychedelic reggae/ska," but
might it have been "English Civil War" by The Clash?  It's on the
"Give 'Em Enough Rope" album.
 
And as long as I'm making my first post to the group, let me thank
Mikey for running the vote.  Thanks!
 
maurice
                                                 Maurice Forrester
                                                 mjforres@suvm.syr.edu
From: gilford@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Gilford T. Hapanyengwi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: Bob Marley Albums
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:47:20 GMT
Organization: Vanderbilt University CS Dept.

I am in the process of collecting Bob Marley's Music on CDs.  Since
quite a number of the songs are repeated in different albums;  I was
wondering if there is some minimal set of CDs I could buy to cover all
the music?  Feel free to send me email or to post to the group if you
think your response is of general interest.

Ndiyoyo,
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From: bw462@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bucky Whaley)
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: Re: Bob Marley Albums
Date: 22 Dec 92 20:48:32 GMT
Reply-To: bw462@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bucky Whaley)
Organization: Get Up Stand Up
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, sh0001@medtronic.COM (Scott Hansohn) says:
>I have both the boxed CD set and Legend.  They compliment each other nicely.
>Get them both.

I like the version of Buffalo Soldier on the lp Legend much better than
the one on the cd (prolly because I listened to the lp a million times
before I got the cd).  Wonder why it was changed, anyhow...

Irie,
 RastaBuck

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Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
From: phoffman@orac.holonet.net (Paul E. Hoffman)
Subject: AAE
Organization: HoloNet National Internet Access BBS: 510-704-1058/modem
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 17:22:17 GMT

I have a few tapes of AAE, which I think stands for Artistic Awareness
Ensemble (or Awareness Artistic Ensemble). They were (are?) from North
Carolina and were (are?) great. Clearly, my question is: do they still
play? Does anyone have other tapes of theirs to trade?

>>Paul Hoffman
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Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
From: mike@jammin.nosc.mil (mike pawka)
Subject: Messenjah
Organization: NRaD
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:49:48 GMT

	I've been looking for anything by the Canadian group "Messenjah" on CD.
Schanachie has a couple of cassettes. Anybody outside of the U.S. seen anything?

	If you ever get the chance, catch 'em. Dem mash it up. Grab "Cool
Operator" on tape.

							mike
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
From: jbore@cosmos.shearson.com (Joe Bore)
Subject: I LOVE STEEL PULSE!
Organization: Lehman Brothers
Distribution: slh
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:26:53 GMT



HAHAHAHAHAH!!



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From: jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali)
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: Reggae terms
Date: 22 Dec 1992 00:39:30 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu


How about explaining a few words of the King's English. Such as:

Skanking:  As in "easy skiankin"
Natty:  As in "natty dread"
Kinky:  As in "kinky part of town"


"Who feels it knows it"

j n a
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
From: sh0001@medtronic.COM (Scott Hansohn)
Subject: Re: Bob Marley Albums
Organization: Medtronic, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 18:44:03 GMT

A while back, I heard a version of "no woman no cry" that sounded like an
extended version of the cut from Legend.  It included an extended guitar solo.
I think it might have been a continuation of the solo where the Legend cut
fades out.

Any ideas what album this is from?

--s

Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: UB40
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 17:39:39 GMT

tomh@wes.on.ca (Tom Haapanen) writes:
> 	I was just wondering if anyone had any comments on the group UB40.
> I know that they are supposedly reggae, but I heard they weren't very good.
> Any comments or opinions??

I thought their first two albums (10 years ago) were brilliant
and that they went slowly downhill afterwards.  The second, PRESENT ARMS,
was especially strong, all 8 songs big winners.  It was a fresh sound, 
combination dub & soul.  The first (yellow UB40 form) was also consistently
good.

Then they drifted into a pattern, so I stopped caring too much.  The 3rd
(with the hologram) was quite boring, and the 4th (LABOUR OF LOVE), an
homage to old reggae hits like Many Rivers To Cross etc., was again more
of the same.  Gotta admit I haven't listened to them after that.

But again, PRESENT ARMS is a masterpiece. 


--Gidi

Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
From: tommy@boi.hp.com (Tom Peterson)
Subject: Bob Marley Interview
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 21:38:30 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.3 PL7]

Hey Mon !

I've been waiting ever so impatiently for articles to show up
in this group, and today suddenly I've got 44 articles !

Happy New Year to me (and you)

Did anyone else catch the Bob Marley interviews a couple of 
weeks ago on an A&E show called "RAVE"?  Lot's of great OLD
(I know they are all old, but these were really old)
interviews and concert footage.  I would have recorded it,
but I didn't get my VCR until xmas.  A&E usually repeats
their shows, so if anyone sees this coming on again let
us know.  We all need to see it!

Peace

Tom Peterson 
tommy@boi.hp.com
 
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: M15841@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: Re: Lorrie Morgan
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:03:05 GMT

In article <Dec.27.14.11.06.1992.18879@andromeda.rutgers.edu>
giordano@andromeda.rutgers.edu (E. Giordano) writes:
 
>
>Is she the widow of the late Keith Whittley(sp)?
 
       Yes.
 
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: dil.admin@mhs.unc.edu (Dave Laudicina)
Subject: re: Marty Stuart 
Organization: UNC Office of Information Technology
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:58:26 GMT

>
>Does anyone know anything about Marty Stuart?  I just bought "This One's Gonna
>Hurt You"  and I listen to it all the time.  The liner notes said he'd been
>around for 20 years, is this true?  Is his other stuff worth buying?  I know
>he's done a few things with Travis Tritt that were pretty good.  I'd appreciate
>anything you can tell me.  I just recently began listening to country and am
>still getting my feet wet, so to speak.  

Marty has several albums out. The one with Hillbilly Rock and another with
Tempted are both excellent albums. Almost as good as This Ones Going
to Hurt You. I would highly recommend both. His hillbilly rock style is
a lot of fun. And he can certainly sing a traditional country song with
the best. Marty joined Lester Flatts bluegrass band as the mandolin player
when he was 13 years old and has been playing since. For any trivia freaks
he also owns Clarence White's Fender Bender guitar. Marty has other albums
earlier then the 3 above. They are good but not on the same par as the 
above.
Dave L

Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: irwin@usdev.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Re: Marty Stuart
Reply-To: irwin@usdev.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 19:59:30 GMT



I agree with the comments prior to this.  Marty has been around for a few
years in the biz now, the only things I liked enough to work into the band
selections were Hillbilly Rock and Tempted.  Then I taped the Return Of The
No Hats Tour that was recently on the pay per view, and realized how much
I liked his combination with Travis Tritt.  I'm already a big Tritt fan
after getting the CD's for Country Club and T-R-O-U-B-L-E.  I plan to buy
more Tritt yet !  

I think Marty does an excellent job live, and I'm really happy I taped the
pay per view event, it's probably the best live country show I have on tape
so far.  I'm probably gonna add more to the song list from Marty and see how
it goes over with the live audiences in these small clubs up her in New England.

Dave
From: abw@natchez.bu.edu (Al Wesolowsky)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: who hooked you on CM?
Summary: Who else?
Date: 26 Dec 92 18:31:35 GMT
Organization: Boston University

In article <1992Dec16.080800.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu> rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes:
>What singer, group, or time brought you to country music? 

Hank...Shreveport, Louisiana, 1952. For a six-year old this was like being
in the same room with God. 'Nuff said.

>I just bought Hank Williams, Sr.'s boxed set....

Good man. Can't go wrong there.

-- 
Al B. Wesolowsky    Boston      o Diane: "I have dire news."
abw@crsa.bu.edu     University  o   Sam: "Good or bad?" 
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: warnock@Hypatia.gsfc.nasa.gov (Archie Warnock)
Subject: Happenings in Phoenix/Flagstaff?
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 19:14:08 GMT

Hi Folks - I get to spend 10 days in Phoenix and Flagstaff right after
the first of the year, and I was wondering if any r.m.c.w. readers might
have pointers to good c/w or bluegrass stuff going on out there then -
bands, bars, concerts, dance halls, etc.  I'll be in Phoenix from Sunday
the 3rd through Thursday the 7th, and in Flagstaff from Friday the 8th
until Tuesday the 12th.

Many thanks.
--
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From: abw@natchez.bu.edu (Al Wesolowsky)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: worst country song titles
Date: 26 Dec 92 00:14:01 GMT
Organization: Boston University

In article <13DEC199217452512@csa3.lbl.gov> jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera) writes:
+>> Thank God and Greyhound She's Gone {You're Gone, actually}
+> Roy Clark did this one.  Can't think of the lyrics at the moment, it's 
+> an oldie!  
+
+Seriously: I too space out the first part of the song, a dolorous bit of
+my-wolman-done-left-me country carried almost to the point of parody.
+Which is exactly the idea, as you see when the band rolls into an oom-pa-pa
+beat and Clark sings, in exultation:
+
Rusty cog creak...

I made a small fortune, you squandered it all.
You shamed me until I felt one inch tall.
But I never said nothing, would never complain
But kept on hoping and praying you'd change.

Now you come up to me with a simple "Goodbye."
You tell me you're leaving, but you won't tell me why.
We're here at the station, and you're getting on,
And all I can think of, is <pause>

+  Thank God and Greyhound you're gone!
+  The load on my mind got lighter when you got on.
+  That dirty old bus is a beautiful sight
+  With the black smoke a-rollin' up around the tail lights
+  That big diesel motor is a-singin' my song,
+  Thank God and Greyhound you're gone!

Didn't know how much longer I could go on,
Watching you take the respect out of me,
Watching you make a total wreck out of me.
Might sound kind of cruel, but I been crying too long,

+  Thank God and Greyhound you're gone!

Not exactly "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry," but pretty funny.

-- 
Al B. Wesolowsky    Boston      o Diane: "I have dire news."
abw@crsa.bu.edu     University  o   Sam: "Good or bad?" 
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