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From: lmc@cs.cornell.edu (Linda Marie Competillo)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Re: Wanted Veggie Dip
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:19:47 GMT
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853

In article <1992Dec11.212947.27298@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> blackb@spot.colorado.edu (Barbara Black) writes:
>I'm looking for a nofat/lofat dip for fresh veggies.  It's for
>our annual Xmas party.  I always bring a veggie plate so I'll be sure to
>have something to eat.
>
>Thanks 
>
>Barbara


The simplest one I know, which is both delicious AND a big hit with folks is
just combining one dry package of Knorr vegetable soup mix with one 
container of non-fat sour cream or low-fat, if you'd prefer. The original 
ecipe calls for regular sour cream. I've made it with all three variations 
and can barely tell the difference!!

Linda
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From: shedevil@vix.com (Anne P. Mitchell JD)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet,rec.food.cooking
Subject: Re: Here come dem sweets!
Date: 18 Dec 1992 23:38:06 -0800
Organization: Knapp & Viola, Attys. at Law, San Mateo, CA
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In a recent missive brooksp@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Peter Brooks) tells us:
*/ hpcc01:alt.support.diet / howard@cs.uiuc.edu /  8:14 am  Dec 16, 1992 /
*
*Pete - 
*
*>Enjoy the See's for me - 
*>x.  They are far better than
*>Fannie May's choc
*>
*Hmm, a fellow (former) Chicagoan claims that FM is much better than See's.
*Guess the fat's richer 2000 miles away... :-)
*
*P
*>


Hah...anyone who is from anywhere even *remotely* near Illinois should
hang their head in shame for eating anything other than Lagomarcino's,
which makes the most *amazing* candy/chocolates I have ever laid teeth
on.

And they take orders over the phone, and they ship anywhere, and their
prices are good.  Their dark chocolate covered orange peel is to die
for!

They are in Moline, IL, and their # is (309) 764-1814.
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From: shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan R. Hagan)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Re: Workouts with bronchitis
Date: 20 Dec 92 17:45:34 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) writes:

>The doctor told me today that I have acute bronchitis.  

>Anyone out there done any aerobic workouts with this ailment?  I was just
>getting back into them and now wonder if it's wise to continue.

Absolutely not!  Your lungs have enough to contend with right now.

Get a lot of rest and drink a lot of water ( a gallon a day).  You
can add a little fresh lemon to it for variety.  This will keep the
mucas loose and reduce the congestion you feel.

The exercise can wait until you are better.


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From: tuttle@blurt.oswego.edu
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: re:weight watchers
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:15:30 GMT
Organization: SUNY College at Oswego, Oswego, NY


Weight Watchers is the best, most sensible diet on the market.  It is portion
control and 3+ meals per day.  You can eat EVERYTHING, as long as you plan for
it.  It is proven to reduce cholesterol, and Consumer Reports gives it the
highest rating possible.  I was very successful at losing weight, and it was so
simple to do.  I was eating more than I had eaten for the previous 10 years. My
first reaction was that there was too much food to eat on their diet.  But I
lost 30 pounds and have kept it off for several years.  It's not expensive. 
It's sensible.  There is nothing you cannot eat.  Even chocolate is written
into the diet from the very first day.  WEIGHT WATCHERS WORKS!  Good luck.

P.S.  I am not employed by them, just personally satisfied!
From: brooksp@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Peter Brooks)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:50:05 GMT
Subject: Re: fat grams
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet

Hmm, I missed seeing the final proposal, but earlier revisions did require
that percentage of calories from fat be given.  However, if it's in
there somewhere (like total calories in fat), I'd be happy.

Rumor has it that new labels will start making it on the streets come
this Spring.  Promises to be interesting for some of the more sleazy
food vendors...

Pete Brooks

From: brooksp@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Peter Brooks)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:13:19 GMT
Subject: Re: Here come dem sweets!
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet

/ hpcc01:alt.support.diet / disraeli@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jamie Lara Bronstein) / 10:43 am  Dec 13, 1992 /
>Chocolate has approximately 150 calories per ounce. What you need to do

Valid for candy bars, but note that confections like Sees have lots
of nuts (175/ounce), and a fair amount of heavy cream.  This is why I was
given 165 per ounce.  Of course, if you're eating enough candy to
make the difference significant, you are already in trouble...

Pete Brooks
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From: STAN@VM.TEMPLE.EDU (Stan Horwitz)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Oops
Date: 13 Dec 92 01:30:07 GMT
Organization: Temple University - Computer Services

I just learned that some of my 30 pounds of eccess fat is collecting around my
liver and causing  some minor problems even  though I feel great.   Now, all I
can think about is this glob of  fat slowly growing bigger and bigger until it
strangles me  to death!  As  such, I am anxious  to resolve this  problem.  My
doctor  put me  on a  low fat/low  cholestoral diet  and told  me to  get more
excercise.  I already do aerobics twice a  week so it won't be much trouble to
do it  more often.  The  trouble is this diet.   Perhaps someone out  there in
netland has some thoughts on this.

I am a 31 year old male who hates to eat most vegetables, fruits, and seafood.
Some of these are edible, but not enough of them to live off of.  I like pasta
and  potatos  too,  but  I  can't  see  living  off  just  those  two  things.
Fortunately, I  am rarely  tempted by  deserts so  I won't  miss them  since I
rarely if ever eat pie, cake and ice cream.  Unfortunately, I have already cut
out much red meat from my diet over the past year in favor a boneless chicken.
I don't eat a lot of junk food  and never buy anything other than pretzels for
home which aren't fattening.  I can cut out some high fat things which I still
eat, but that doesn't leave me with  much left.

My biggest problem is finding something to eat at work for lunch.  I hate cold
sandwiches and salads so I favor hot items which often contain more fat than I
need.   I  often  eat  breakfast  out on  weekends  with  friends  which  very
fattening.  This practice has  ended, but I need to cut out  more stuff.  If I
could learn to enjoy  more vegies, fruits, and maybe fish, I  would be able to
lose weight easily.  Losing  this weight and keeping it off  would be easy for
me to  do if  I could find  a way to  enjoy salads  and other healthy  low fat
foods.  Does anyone have  any suggestions how I can do that?  I  can eat a lot
of vegies that I  don't like (except cabage and brocolli)  if they're in soup,
but I  can't live off soup.   So how can I  learn to like more  fruits and the
rabbit food that people call salad?   Any suggestions will be appreciated.  In
fact, I am going to the supermarket now  to buy some apples and oranges to see
if I can get those down the old throat.
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: mazur@bluefin.camb.inmet.com (Beth Mazur)
Subject: Re: Workouts with bronchitis
Organization: Intermetrics, Inc.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 17:06:46 GMT

In article <102622@netnews.upenn.edu> crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) writes:
>The doctor told me today that I have acute bronchitis.  
>
>Anyone out there done any aerobic workouts with this ailment?  I was just
>getting back into them and now wonder if it's wise to continue.
>
The guidelines I have read say you should give up exercise if you're ailing
below the neck (for example, lung or digestive problems), but you can 
exercise if it is essentially a head cold (and if you feel up to it).

Aerobics with bronchitis seems like a real bad idea to me.

Beth Mazur                   "...life is more than a vision.  The sweetest
mazur@inmet.inmet.com         part is acting after making a decision."
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From: brooksp@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Peter Brooks)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:56:13 GMT
Subject: Re: Calorie measures in food labels
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet

/ hpcc01:alt.support.diet / gamiddle@math.uwaterloo.ca (Guy Middleton) /  5:55 pm  Dec  8, 1992 /
>I would hate to interfere with anybody's careful calorie-counting, but it does
>seem like too much effort.
It's OK for me.
>
>Easier to follow simple guidelines:
[Sensible list deleted.]
>
>After doing this for a while, you will be able to tell, from the way you feel,
>whether your calorie intake is at the right level.
Well, it's been a year and a half off the fast, and my body is perfectly
willing to let me gorge it from time to time.

One of HMR's tenents is the concept of 'personal differences'.  If it works
for me, it might be worthwhile for you to look at, but nobody says it's
guaranteed to work for you.  That's why I put great big disclaimers in my
detailed postings.

(Actually, the body does let me know when it's lacking its fix of vegies
on the rare days that I don't get my huge dose, but I find that I *must*
count calories and exercise a lot.  It took a lot of work to shed 200
pounds, and I'm not about to let inattention help me to regain even a
fraction of them.

Pete (control freak :-) Brooks
Organization: Doctoral student, Psychology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:42:03 -0500 
From: Kathryn Brennan <kb3i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Yogurt cheese...

So does this yogurt cheese taste different from plain yogurt?  Or is the
main difference in the consistency?

-Kate Brennan 
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: jbyrd@chpc.utexas.edu (Jan Byrd)
Subject: Re: Yogurt cheese.  Now what?
Organization: Center for High Performance Computing, Univ. of Texas System
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 15:59:32 GMT

In article <BzBA1z.65C@dale.cts.com>, npm@dale.cts.com (Nancy Milligan) writes:
|> Okay, I let some yogurt drain in my refrigerator and now I've got 
|> yogurt cheese.  It's about the same consistency of cream cheese, but
|> it's pretty sour (tart) tasting.   Now what should I do with it?
|> 
|> --
|> Nancy P. Milligan 				npm@dale.cts.com
|> Titan Linkabit					cts!dale!npm
|> 		  Gravity has no hold over me!

I am the yogurt cheese queen, and you can do bunches of stuff with it.
If you LIKE the tart taste, you can use it "as is" as a spread instead 
of margarine or cream cheese on muffins, tea breads, etc.  If you prefer
something sweeter, you add a little honey to it.  If you do this, though,
it's best if you've drained the whey out of it really well and it's very 
thick, because the honey will thin it somewhat.

It's also pretty enough to frost with, e.g., banana breads, etc, although 
it cracks as it dries out and, of course, MUST be stored in the refrigerator
covered.

I've also made cheesecake-to-die-for with it; just substitute it cup
for cup for the cream cheese.  It also made an excellent buttermilk pie
(I substituted it for the buttermilk).

Jan

P.S.  The whey that you drained off is good added to fruit dishes or jello -
adds a real tang to it.
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: mprisco@puma.cat.syr.edu ()
Subject: Re: Bagels (Was: Does exercise make you lose weight?)
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 09:11:19 EST

In article <1992Dec14.115426.1@vax.sonoma.edu> abel@vax.sonoma.edu writes:
>In article <Bz4wKw.J8v@news.iastate.edu>, sjryan@iastate.edu (S. J. Ryan) writes:
>> 
>I certainly go along with the idea that you should use whatever works 
>for you, and I certainly agree that lowering fat intake works for 
>most people, but I think that it works because fat has so many 
>calories.  If you have two foods with the same number of calories 

I always thought this was true, too, but this month there is an
article in Shape magazine (don't have it with me) about obesity in
kids.  They cited a study that said that obese kids from families
that were obese ate about the same number of calories as non-o
kids but a greater percentage of the calories tended to be from
fat.  They conclude with something to the effect that the days of
thinking a calorie is a calorie are over.


Margot

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Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: jbyrd@chpc.utexas.edu (Jan Byrd)
Subject: Re: Oops
Organization: Center for High Performance Computing, Univ. of Texas System
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 14:32:45 GMT

In article <92347.203007STAN@VM.TEMPLE.EDU>, STAN@VM.TEMPLE.EDU (Stan Horwitz) writes:
[post asking for advice on how to trick himself into eating more vegetables
and fruits deleted]

Don't mean to sound condescending, but here's what I have done successfully
with my children who don't care for vegetables much:  I run them through
the blender with the sauce of whatever they're going to be served in.

Here's an example:  my husband and I like spaghetti sauce with onion,
mushrooms, bell pepper, etc, and the children don't.  (Have you ever sat
at a dinner table with a child who is rooting around in his spaghetti, 
trying to find the onion or mushroom that he KNOWS you have hidden in there?)
So I just frappe the vegetables with the sauce in the blender, and voila, 
children scarf it right down.  At first I was kinda disappointed FOR MYSELF
with this method, but I've learned to appreciate in a different way the
full-bodied sauce that this produces.

Another example is soup.  I always start off with a can of Spicy-V8 and
then some kind of broth (beef or chicken).  From there you can add a zillion
other veggies.  If there are some that I know my children will balk at, like
onion, I just put them in the blender with the V8, and they never complain.

Hope this helps, and I'd enjoy hearing about anyone else's variations on this.

Jan (I wonder if my OWN mother was this devious) Byrd
From: churchwell@vms.ocom.okstate.edu (Kimberly B. Churchwell)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Re: Oops
Date: 14 Dec 92 03:01:42 GMT
Organization: OSU College of Osteopathic Medicine

In article <92347.203007STAN@VM.TEMPLE.EDU>, STAN@VM.TEMPLE.EDU (Stan
Horwitz) writes:
> My doctor  put me  on a  low fat/low  cholestoral diet  and told  me to 
> get more excercise.  I already do aerobics twice a  week so it won't be
> much trouble to do it  more often.  The  trouble is this diet...I am a
> 31 year old male who hates to eat most vegetables, fruits, and seafood.
> ...My biggest problem is finding something to eat at work for lunch.

Lunch is my problem meal, too.  I get tired of sandwiches and leftovers,
and the cafeteria at work isn't exactly known for featuring low-calorie
entrees.  I have found some nutritious and reasonably tasty options at
the local health food store, though.  Fantastic Foods and Nile Spice
both make a number of "instant meals" (soups, noodle, rice, and
grain-based mixtures that require only hot water and a few minutes to
steep), many of which are quite low in fat.  (Read the labels carefully,
though.)  I also buy a variety of low-fat or nonfat snacks (baked
whole-grain chips, nonfat fruit cookies, etc.) to keep in my desk
drawer, and just sorta "graze" through the day rather than eating one
large midday meal.
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From: npm@dale.cts.com (Nancy Milligan)
Subject: Re: Yogurt cheese.  Now what?
Organization: Titan Linkabit Corporation
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:27:24 GMT

Could you post your buttermilk pie recipe?  It sounds good!

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From: jane@tortoise.ee.lbl.gov (Jane Colman)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: 2000 Calories Exercise
Followup-To: alt.support.diet
Date: 17 Dec 1992 17:20:38 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley
Distribution: alt
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.112.27

Pete Brooks has mentioned several times, and I have also seen
elsewhere, that one should expend 2000 Calories weekly in
physical activity.  Since the number of calories expended per
hour, per mile, or whatever, is dependent on weight, I'm
wondering whether that is an average figure based on average
weight (150 pounds), or whether heavier people can really
reach that goal with less activity and lighter people need
to do more.  (I'm asking as a lighter person--heavy for my
height, but small enough that I'm always lighter than the
"average person".)

Jane Colman        JLColman@lbl.gov
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: hannan@sco.COM (Hanna Nelson)
Subject: Re: Yogurt cheese. Now what?
Organization: Department of Information Provision
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:12:13 GMT


In article <1992Dec17.142457.23848@chpc.utexas.edu>, jbyrd@chpc.utexas.edu (Jan Byrd) oozed:
==> 
==> Several people have reported having some success with using the basket from 
==> their coffee maker, and letting it drain through a coffee filter.  I tried 
==> that, but hardly any whey came out at all, and I personally don't recommend
==> that method

use a hard-plastic (melitta-style) coffee filter and cheesecloth 
instead of a paper filter and you should remove the right amount of whey...


hanna
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Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: npm@dale.cts.com (Nancy Milligan)
Subject:  Pizza
Organization: Titan Linkabit Corporation
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:21:13 GMT

I tried something new this past weekend, a lowfat pizza.  First I made
my own crust.  It was easy since I bought my new Kitchen Aid stand mixer. :)
I didn't have to knead it at all.  I've also got a nice pizza pan with holes
to let the crust brown on the bottom.  

Next I put a bit of ricotta cheese (low-fat, I couldn't find any non-fat)
all over the dough (after I rolled it out).  I put pizza sauce on top of
that.  Topped it with pineapple, slices of fire-roasted red and yellow
peppers, onions and fresh tomatos.  Then I sprinkled the top with about
1/2 C of mozzarella.  (Okay, maybe a little more than that).

It came out really good!  The only problem is that the ricotta tended
to make it a little messy.
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Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: jbyrd@chpc.utexas.edu (Jan Byrd)
Subject: Re: Yogurt cheese. Now what?
Organization: Center for High Performance Computing, Univ. of Texas System
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 14:04:42 GMT

In article <Dec.17.15.43.54.1992.2388@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan R. Hagan) writes:
|> 
|> Tell me if this will work.  I could take a strainer (the round kind with the
|> long handle on one end) and line it with cheese cloth.  Then I can sit this
|> on a bowl.  I can put the yogurt in the strainer, on top of the cheese cloth
|> and then just let it go.
|> 
|> Would that do it?  
|> 
|> This is how I strain chicken stock - it sounds like the yogurt cheese
|> procedure is similar.
|> 
|> Sue

I think this would work fine too, as long as you're using something like
cheesecloth.  As I said before, I did try using the regular coffee filters
once and, another time, a high quality paper towel.  In both cases the
filter/paper towel seemed to absorb the whey until it couldn't take any
more.  Very little whey dripped into the pan below.  YMMV, but I'm bullish
on cheesecloth or a mesh bag. 

Jan

P.S.  I used this same method to drain the water out of fresh, cooked 
pumpkin.  You know how canned pumpkin is always so much thicker than 
fresh?  Well this helps make your fresh pumpkin thicker.
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: bicker@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Brian Charles Kohn)
Subject: Re: weight watchers
Organization: /home/fsg/bicker/.organization
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:36:28 GMT

In article <Byzy1L.LpE@acsu.buffalo.edu> v124pax6@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Emily A Lyons) writes:
EL>  I am considerring joining weight watchers because it is (relatively) cheap
EL>  and you don't have to eat special food, both of which are important to me.
EL>  I have tried occasionally to lose weight on my own, but never very whole
EL>  heartedly, and never for very long.  I know what I need to do, eat less,
EL>  exercize, etc., but somehow never get around to doing it, or don't think
EL>  that I can change.
EL> 
EL>  I would apreciate hearing from anyone who has been to WW, with either good
EL>  things or bad things to say about it.  What did you find helpul?  What 
EL>  wasn't?  I don't know anyone who has ever been in it, and don't know what 
EL>  to expect.  Please respond by posting or e-mail.  Thanks in advance,

10 months, 75 pounds, 10 months ago, still gone...nuf sed

Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: sjryan@iastate.edu (S. J. Ryan)
Subject: Re: Bagels (Was: Does exercise make you lose weight?)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 06:55:43 GMT

	In answer to the question about added fat in seed bagels, I doubt it's
enough to count.  There couldn't possibly be a tablespoon of seeds on one
bagel, and, while there is some fat in seeds, the small amount you get
on one bagel would be minimal.  In the parlance of labels, which are 
getting so much press here, probably it would be <1 gram. Most of the
other flavorings contain no fat, like raisins and cinnamon, though they do 
add calories.  But the 200 or so calories in a cinnamon-raisin bagel are
certainly better than the 200 or so from a doughnut.  They are much
lower in fat, even with seeds.

Sandi


Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: blackb@spot.colorado.edu (Barbara Black)
Subject: Wanted Veggie Dip
Organization: University of Colorado
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:29:47 GMT

I'm looking for a nofat/lofat dip for fresh veggies.  It's for
our annual Xmas party.  I always bring a veggie plate so I'll be sure to
have something to eat.

Thanks 

Barbara
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: csanoy@bcars689.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Cynthia Sanoy)
Subject: Aspartame, Splenda, and other artifical sweeteners
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:15:45 GMT

Being relatively new to this newsgroup, I may have missed previous 
discussions on this topic.

My problem is with aspartame. So many diet/low cal foods are loaded 
with the stuff. Not bad if your body can tolerate it, but I get 
migraine headaches within an hour of popping a single piece of sugar-free
gum, and within ten minutes of half a glass of diet Coke. 

What do people on the net think of Splenda products?  I don't know how
widely available Splenda is, but it is certainly available in most parts
of central and western Canada. I'm a little afraid to try the Splenda-laden
soft drinks. What do people think of them?

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