From: ishikawa@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp (Chiaki Ishikawa)
Newsgroups: fj.news.policy
Subject: Re: News Group Management Protocol Rev. G
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:15:11 GMT
	<1814@titccy.cc.titech.ac.jp> <3239@hayate.chuo-computer.co.jp>
	<ISHIKAWA.92Aug5223926@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp>
	<1853@titccy.cc.titech.ac.jp>
Reply-To: ishikawa@personal-media.co.jp
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Organization: Personal Media Corp., Tokyo Japan
In-reply-to: mohta@necom830.cc.titech.ac.jp's message of 11 Aug 92 09:25:28 GMT


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In article <1853@titccy.cc.titech.ac.jp> mohta@necom830.cc.titech.ac.jp (Masataka Ohta) writes:

>    In article <ISHIKAWA.92Aug5223926@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp>
> 	   ishikawa@personal-media.co.jp writes:
>   >
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From: spaf@cs.purdue.EDU (Gene Spafford)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newusers,news.admin,news.answers
Subject: What is Usenet?

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The document that describes the current procedure for creating a new
newsgroup is entitled "How To Create A New Newsgroup."  Its common
name, however, is "the guidelines."

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If you follow the guidelines, it is probable that your group will be
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created and will be widely propagated.

HOWEVER: Because of the nature of Usenet, there is no way for any user
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to enforce the results of a newsgroup vote (or any other decision, for
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that matter).

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$@IUO?!'(J Gen Spafford $@$N%]%9%H$N0lIt(J
From: spaf@cs.purdue.EDU (Gene Spafford)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newusers,news.admin,news.answers
Subject: What is Usenet?
Followup-To: news.newusers.questions
Organization: Dept. of Computer Sciences, Purdue Univ.

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NEWSGROUP CREATION
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The document that describes the current procedure for creating a new
newsgroup is entitled "How To Create A New Newsgroup."  Its common
name, however, is "the guidelines."

If you follow the guidelines, it is probable that your group will be
created and will be widely propagated.

HOWEVER: Because of the nature of Usenet, there is no way for any user
to enforce the results of a newsgroup vote (or any other decision, for
that matter).  Therefore, for your new newsgroup to be propagated
widely, you must not only follow the letter of the guidelines; you
must also follow its spirit.  And you must not allow even a whiff of
shady dealings or dirty tricks to mar the vote.  In other words, don't
tick off system administrators; they will get their revenge.

So, you may ask: How is a new user supposed to know anything about the
"spirit" of the guidelines?  Obviously, he can't.  This fact leads
inexorably to the following recommendation:

 >> If you are a new user, don't try to create a new newsgroup. <<

If you have a good newsgroup idea, then read the "news.groups"
newsgroup for a while (six months, at least) to find out how things
work.  If you're too impatient to wait six months, then you really
need to learn; read "news.groups" for a year instead.  If you just
can't wait, find a Usenet old hand to run the vote for you.

Readers may think this advice unnecessarily strict.  Ignore it at your
peril.  It is embarrassing to speak before learning.  It is foolish to
jump into a society you don't understand with your mouth open.  And it
is futile to try to force your will on people who can tune you out
with the press of a key.

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