HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Subject: Re: Dave Hayes may be right (was Re: To keep the r.m.s rename...)
Followup-To: rec.music.synth,news.groups
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:46:56 GMT

In article <CKD.92Nov15014121@loiosh.eff.org> ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis) writes:
>You mean the way they shot down the manga vote?  or rec.arts.poems.urdu?
>sci.aquaria?  Boy, those "news.groupies" run the net like the old
>Politburo, fists of steel they've got there.

As I have pointed out, the current controversy was different from the
controversy over those other groups.  For other "controversial" groups
(except perhaps for the misc.activism.progressive use of many mailing list
voters), people objected to the group's name or charter, and thought the
outcome of the vote was bad because of that.  In this case, what people are
objecting to is the _voting_procedure_.
--
"the bogosity in a field equals the bogosity imported from related areas, plus
the bogosity generated internally, minus the bogosity expelled or otherwise
disposed of."  -- K. Eric Drexler

Ken Arromdee (UUCP: ....!jhunix!arromdee; BITNET: arromdee@jhuvm;
     INTERNET: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu)
From: kaustell@viikki.Helsinki.FI (KIM OLAVI KAUSTELL (MATEK))
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Yamaha - PSR500
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:09:00 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki, Fac.Agric.For.

In article <92327.200539JJL101@psuvm.psu.edu> JJL101@psuvm.psu.edu (J.J. Lehett) writes:


>    I am looking to get back into keyboards and midi, and would like to hear
>views and reccomendations for the PSR line from Yamaha... any input
>appreciated!
>------------------
>J.J. Lehett     : Atari's, puzzles, games, chaos, fractals, math....

>  - Work: JJL101@psuvm.psu.edu           Penn State CAC
>  - Genie: J.LEHETT2
>  - Delphi: JLEHETT@delphi.com

I have the Yamaha PSR4600, and I've been quite satisfied with it. The sounds 
are good, polyphony is bad (only 8) and sysex'es are not supported (at least 
not according to the user's manual, please correct me, if I'm wrong). These 
two drawbacks limit it's flexibility in multi-instrument configurations. If 
I'd have a second chance to buy a home midi keyboard, I'd prefer the Roland 
E-70.

                        y-=p Kim Kaustell p=-y
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From: frankc@faatcrl (Frank Coffman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: MT-32 vs. D-110
Date: 18 Nov 92 18:26:22 GMT
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Pomona, NJ
NNTP-Posting-Host: offserv2.faa.gov

rspangle@celaeno.uucp (Randy Spangler) writes:


>I have had no problems at all with my D-10 and Wing Commander I/II.
>It downloads patches to the D-10 and sounds just fine (well, fantastic
>actually - far better than the SoundBlaster sounds).  

>The patch format _is_ compatible between the D-10 and MT-32 - the D-10
>just adds a reverb module and less noisy synth chips.

>Since the D-110 is just the D-10 without the keyboard, it will work
>the same way.  The D-50 is probably a lost cause, though, since it is
>only bi-timbral rather than 8-part multi-timbral, and has a completely
>different patch structure (better filters and such).

I too have been successful using my D-20 as a sound source for MT-32 emulation,
but feel a need to make two points:

1) Not all of the sounds you get with the D-10/20/110 will be the intended sounds,
because there are differences in the patch maps between the D synths and the
MT-32.  You can get MT-32 emulation sysex files and download them if you like,
but many programs actually reporgram the internal sounds, so this doesn't
always give you the intended sounds either.  The fact is, for the games I've played,
the differences never bothered me.

2) THIS IS IMPORTANT.  Unlike the MT-32, if you need to restore the factory
data or your own custom data to your synth, you need a sequencer - there is no
standalone reset.  This means if a game reprograms your synth (i.e. Wing Commander),
and you don't have a way to restore your original system configuration, You're
screwed!

Roland will send you free of charge an alternate setup disk that has original
data and MT-32 emulation data for the D-series multi-timbral synths, but
it's formatted for one of their micro-composers. 

BTW this discussion seems to surface periodically - last time some guys jumped
all over me for saying you can use your synth for game playing, but as long as
you're aware of these points and can deal with them, I've felt no need to spend
money on a soundboard.



good luck.

fc


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From: allebrandi@inland.com (Tom Allebrandi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Need disk drive for Mirage DSK
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:04:09 CST
Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN

Greetings - 

I have an Ensoniq Mirage DSK (something) whose 3.5" disk drive has gone
south. I'm trying to find a replacement drive.

I know that the drive is dead since I "borrowed" a 3.5" drive out of a
PC and hooked it up to the Mirage. It works properly with one small
problem.

I had the local Ensoniq dealer call Ensoniq to find out how much a
replacement drive costs. Ensoniq said $165. This amount seems absurd
since I could mail order a drive for a PC for $50 to $75 -- I would
just have to live with the minor problem.

The non functional drive has a tag on it identifying it as a Panasonic
JU-364.

Anybody got an idea of where I might go to get a replacement drive for
a more reasonable price?? Please Email any responses.


By the way, the minor problem occurs when you "boot" the Mirage. After
loading the OS, the display flashes "ND" - No disk. If you pop the disk
out, push it back in, and tell it to load something from the disk, it
works just fine. A minor problem to be sure, but an annoyance that I
could avoid if I had the correct disk drive.

Thanks in advance!

--- Tom		Allebrandi@Inland.Com
		219-399-6306





Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: haynes@ivy.cs.unca.edu (Houston Haynes)
Subject: Korg MIDI Vocoder for sale
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:41:15 GMT


I have an old Korg DVP-1 for sale.  
It does vocoding, pitchshifting, MIDI-controlled harmonization, and
chorusing.  It also has an internal wave mode that allows it to function
as a six-voice synth.
 
The unit is in very good condition,
although the manual is a bit tattered.

Please contact me for detailed specs.

Asking price - $300 + shipping.

Thanks.
Houston H. Haynes
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Subject: Re: HELP! IS IT TRUE THAT PWR'D MIDI CNVRTR'S ARE O.K. W/ PB100? 
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 12:22:01 +0000

Unpowered converters work fine on my PB140, and (I recall) on the PB100.

                      Nick Rothwell  |  "Say, how many contemporary dancers
   CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance  |     are there in this bar?"
        cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk  |  "Dunno; count the Dr. Martens
        cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk  |     and divide by two..."

Xref: sparky rec.music.synth:18741 news.groups:22661
From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,news.groups
Subject: Re: POOF
Date: 21 Nov 1992 19:34:00 GMT
Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: pangea.stanford.edu

In article <6591@npri6.npri.com> murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy) writes:
>>Anyone ever read the short story "The Lottery"?
>
>yeah.  so?  she could have moved away to a more "civilized" community.

I found no cause for such optimism in that story.  Maybe
you're thinking of "Those Who Walk Away from Omelas".
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@pangea.stanford.edu
From: khaberl@BBN.COM (Karl Haberl)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Egg on my face (was supposed to be Rothwell and Metlay in EM)
Date: 18 Nov 1992 16:26:24 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Distribution: world
Reply-To: khaberl@BBN.COM (Karl Haberl)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

O.K. so I thought I had it all figured out: got my life pretty
much together, job's going well, got the kids in a decent school, got
the vehicles in working order, was starting to find some time again to make
a little music, and then WHHHOOOOOAAAAAAA. I go and do something idiotic,
and post the wrong file. I hope you all enjoyed every random byte of that
last megadump.

Anyway, with your forgiveness and a newfound humility, let me try that again.

I'm curious. Nick, a while back you posted some interesting details on various
tests that you had done with the Powerbooks, yet not even a summary of
these results made it into the EM article. How come? Did EM want to save
the details for the follow-up you mention, or was there some other reason?

Inquiring (and sometimes scatterbrained) minds want to know ...


Karl Haberl               | "Properly raising the Feedback gives the tone
Internet: khaberl@bbn.com |  a manner" - excerpt from Sony R7 manual (from EM)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: wb@tornado.kodak.com (wb@tornado.kodak.com)
Subject: FOR SALE: A.R.T. Alpha 2.0 Digital Multiple Efx Device
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp. (Telstar), Rochester, N.Y. 14653
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:52:49 GMT


FOR SALE: ART Alpha 2.0 Digital Effector -- $300

FEATURES:

*) Up To 4 effects at once (Reverbs/Flange/Chorus/Delays/Pitch Shift)
*) Unit includes a guitar tuner!
*) Signal-to-Noise-Ratio > 90 db

The unit is relatively new and has not been out of the basement
studio. All manuals/original shipping stuff...

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,alt.guitar
From: venky@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (venkatesh.krishnaswamy)
Subject: Midi guitar inquiry
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:02:26 GMT

Hi, 

I'm looking for information on the following Midi guitars:

1) Casio DG20

2) Ibanez MC-1 rackmount synth controller and guitar

Any technical info (midi capabilities, non-midi guitar
specs) as well as personal impressions (playability,
tracking, built-in sounds) will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Venky Krishnaswamy

venky@vax135.att.com
From: five@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (A.R.F.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Was there ever a DW6000 rack?
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 18:33:21 CST
Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

swood@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Scott Wood - EVENSONG) writes:

> Was there ever a rack or a module for the Korg DW 6000?  If so, what was
> the name for the beastie?
> 
> swood
> 
> -- 
 
Nope.  There was only a module version of the DW8000 -> the EX8000.
 
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: steven@abekrd.co.uk (Steven Glenister)
Subject: DOWNLOAD SOFTWARE FOR ST???
Organization: Abekas Video Systems, Reading, UK.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 11:53:26 GMT

Does anyone know where I can get some software to dump patch files
for my SY22 from a 1040st. I've looked everywere but never seen 
anything about. An ftp site where I could pick one up from would
be nice. I've probably got somthing useful that I could swap with
somone.
Anyone...Anyone ???

Steve.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth
From: freewill@carson.u.washington.edu (William Kaufman)
Subject: Mail-Order for Dr. Synth
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:27:06 GMT



  (Sounds of bowing and scraping)
Like most people I don't pay any attention to information that I don't
need and then turn around and pitilessly beg when I do. Is there a list
of mail-order places, so one can call around for prices on the new Dr.
Synth? Don't laugh, I'm poor and it sounds pretty good as other posters
have mentioned. Thanks, I'll never do anything bad again, freewill



Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth
From: archer@elysium.esd.sgi.com (Archer Sully)
Subject: Re: GeneralMusic (GEM) S2 bugs
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:00:46 GMT

In <46@bbx.basis.com> scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker) writes:
*
*I just read the review.  It does not preserve *any* RAM memory during
*power-off and there is *no* SYSEX dump capability (you must save to floppy).
*This is downright naive.  The reviewer then had the gall to compare it
*to the K2000.
*

I thought that was the funniest thing about the review.  Look, you can't
say outright in a review "this board is a piece of junk".  You have to be
more politic.  By comparing it to the K2000 the reviewer did some gratis
advertising for Kurzweil/YCA, while at the same time pointing out just how
little you get with the S2. 

-- archer
From: kraig@biostr.washington.edu (Kraig Eno)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Idea for Wavestation sysex parameter recording
Date: 18 Nov 92 05:25:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: biostr.1992Nov17.210738.1
Organization: University of Washington

I was doodling the other day, finding out how to change voice parameters
on the fly from a sequencer, and I had this bright idea: not only can you
record parameter changes for timbral effects, but you can record all the
changes you make during an editing session.  How many times have you been
editing a sound, arrived at something you liked, and then lost it again?
I've complained before about the lack of multiple levels of UNDO -- if you
use COMPARE, it just goes back to where you started and the limitation hampers
the exploration process.

Give this a try: go to the MIDI page, set Parameters to TRANSMIT & RECEIVE,
and start your sequencer.  Then edit for a while.  Feel free to play a series
of notes to try out the sound whenever it's appropriate.  When you've explored
several different ideas, stop the recording and play it back at 3X speed by
setting the tempo way high.  It replays everything you did, and you can
compare the sounds as they change without worrying about how you got them.
The beauty is, you can stop it at any time (play it slow if necessary) and
save the settings, and you don't have to worry about "losing" ideas as you
work out the parameters.

You might call it "edit session logging".

Kraig Eno, kraig@biostr.washington.edu
"The best way to predict the future is to invent it!" -- Alan Kay
From: dnibby@asylum.UUCP (Dana Nibby)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: For sale: ESQ-1
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:15:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: asylum.531
Organization: Epilogue Technology Corp.

*********** For Sale **************************

E N S O N I Q   E S Q - 1   s y n t h e s i z e r

* 61 VELOCITY SENSITIVE KEYS

* 8 TRACK SEQUENCER. ONE OF THE EASIEST SEQUENCERS TO USE

* 8 PART MULTI-TIMBRAL

ETC. ETC.


* comes w/heavy-duty soft case, sustain pedal, 10,000 note
  sequencer memory expander, manual (of course)

$420. buyer pays shipping


    Dana
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: Shopping for a synth
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: can
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 15:06:32 GMT

In article <BxtMtq.Mq4@DMI.USherb.CA>, saucc00@DMI.USherb.CA (Dudy) writes:
|> Can someone point me out a few good places to shop for a synth in Montreal
|> or Toronto.

Toronto:  Steve's Music, Long & McQuade
Montreal: Steve's Music, Italmelodie

There are others (check the yellow pages in the telephone directory),
but I have dealt with the above and they have the best prices and
selection.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: perlman@SMTC.engr.scarolina.edu
Subject: ?keyboard w midi & s'ware -> child?
Reply-To: perlman@smtc00.engr.scarolina.edu
Organization: NIST Southeast Manufacturing Technology Center
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 16:09:37 GMT

Recommendations, please, for Xmas gift for child:
Wants keyboard, has no musical education, can use
my PC recently equipped with NEC 74 MM Gallery (includes
sound card with midi).

I saw ad from Tiger for kb and s'ware for $399.  Any reviews
or recommendations for less expen$ive alternatives?

Thanks in advance.   Rich.
From: whittington@fixsoa.enet.dec.com (Phantom)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: DSS-1 Disk problem
Date: 18 Nov 92 00:32:48 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

Would the individual who posted his solution to speeding up disk reads on the
DSS-1 please reply solution via mail.?

Thanks
Ed
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth
From: hauser@netcom.com (Michael Hauser)
Subject: FOR SALE: Navigator and DPM-SX
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:18:05 GMT

Oberheim Navigator midi mapper					$100

Peavey DPM-SX sampler module for DPM series			$195


Michael Hauser
(415) 695-1910
hauser@netcom.com
From: gary@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Serial-to-MIDI Interface
Date: 16 Nov 92 10:17:40 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

The MIDIATOR will have to buffer internally to cope with baud rate
differences. If the buffer si too small long sysex dumps will overrun
it. Software can't fix this...

I hope my MIDIATOR will arrive today so I can see what's in it and
experiment. Then I'll knwo better what it get's right and wrong..

cheers...
From: edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Rutles vs Beatles
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:46:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: menudo.1edvi0INNp1j
Organization: Little to none, or maybe not......
NNTP-Posting-Host: evolution.bchs.uh.edu

In article <1edudcINN6c3@agate.berkeley.edu> bh@anarres.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Brian Harvey) writes:
>hertzberg@levers.enet.dec.com (Marc Hertzberg (History: Love it or leave it!)) writes:
>|What are the theories on "I'm the Urban Spaceman?"  Obviously Ringo, but I'll be
>|durned if I can hear what song inspired this.
>
>That's a Bonzo Dog song!  I don't think it has anything to do with the Beatles.

Not quite true.   The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah band did appear in the Beatles made-for
-TV film Magical Mystery tour.    One of the key members of that comedy singing
group was none other then Mr. Neil Innes.  Innes was noticed by John Lennon,
and Paul McCartney. Thus, when Innes needed a producer for "I'm the Urban 
Spaceman", he asked none other then Mr. James Paul McCartney (who did produce 
the record, and quite nicely I might add).  The majority of folks will know 
this tune from it's appearance in the movie "Monty Python - Live at the 
Hollywood Bowl".

All of this is a bit ironic, in light of the fact that McCartney has reportedly
never been pleased with the film "The Rutles", and (according to rumor) has
gone out of his way to avoid encounters with either Innes, or Idle...

<ESC>
-- 
..You either kiss the future or the past goodbye...
                          -- Ringo Starr (written by O'Deherty / Velez)
From: cstadbg@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr M J Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Get Back / Supposed Beatle Songs
Date: 20 Nov 1992 10:02:08 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk

I am posting the following questions for a friend who does not have net access

Please e-mail answers etc to cstadbg@csv.warwick.ac.uk or post in newsgroup

* First ... has anybody seen the lyrics to the original "Get back", which were
  along the lines of "Don't dig no pakistanis..." ... They are mentioned in
  Lewisohn, but as far as I know never published. Have they turned up on a 
  bootleg / outtakes album?

* Has anyone heard of any of the following tracks, meant to be Beatles, but
  possibly fakes...some are often included on bootlegs of Beatle material :-

  "Peace of mind (The candle burns)
  "Oh I need you" (NOT the George H song on Help) - Trident Records
  "LS Bumblebee/Bee side"
  "Have you heard the word/Futting around"
  "Pink Litmus Paper Shirt"
  "Colliding circles"

* It appears that there is a demo of "Circles" by George Harrison, recorded  
  at his house. The sleeve says "aka Colliding circles"...are these the same
  songs, or is it coincidence?

Any help appreciated ....
From: edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: "Bungalow Bill" - a theory?
Date: 17 Nov 1992 20:07:18 GMT
Organization: Little to none, or maybe not......
NNTP-Posting-Host: evolution.bchs.uh.edu

In article <8677@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> weiss@babbage.seas.ucla.edu (Michael Weiss) writes:
>In article <8f1Eo_C00awYQNF0Qi@andrew.cmu.edu> jl6e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jonathan D. Lyness) writes:
>>I was thinking about the posts about "The Continuing Story of Bungalow
>>Bill" from a few days ago, and how several people agreed that it was one
>>of the very silliest songs that John Lennon ever wrote. Something
>>occured to me: could this song be a veiled reference to the Vietnam war?
>
>I was always of the impression that the song was to be taken much more
>literally.  I thought it was about the lame excuses that people use to go out
>hunting, and how supposedly "brave" they all were when, in fact, they were the
>ones with the guns.

Give the man an invisible "Lost Lennon Tapes" T-shirt.  (as Elliot Mintz said
far too many times to count).  Bungalow Bill was indeed inspired by a real
person, who was with them in the Maharishi's camp.   John thought it more then
a little ironic that someone "devoted" enough to follow the Maharishi all the
way to India would then leave the camp for one day each week to hunt and
kill animals.  That's the gist of the statement.   No quotes, as I don't feel
like looking the appropriate one up right now! ;-)

<ESC>

-- 
..You either kiss the future or the past goodbye...
                          -- Ringo Starr (written by O'Deherty / Velez)