From: irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Project Apple Storm: The Empire Strikes Back
Date: 14 Dec 92 05:52:57 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Originator: irsman@pv3207.vincent.iastate.edu

The following is from Ernie, the guy who did the taping and commenting in the
original Project Apple Storm posting.  It's been lifted unedited from OggNET.
Enjoy, or something...this says disturbing things to me about some A2'ers...

[To      ] All                        [Board   ] 8-Bit Apple //'s      [OggNET]
[From    ] Blackbeard (#8)            [Number  ] 499 of 500
[Subject ] Apple Responds             [Date    ] 12/12/92  06:44:56 AM
[Source  ] -=- Valhalla : SF/CA -=-   [Received] 12/13/92  01:33:51 PM

Project Apple Storm - Apple Retaliates

I received a telephone call from an Apple employee Wednesday, the name will
remain anonymous as he would probably deny it anyway.

I was told that I was really in trouble because I had broken the law by
releasing the transcripts of a private meeting.  I was also told that the
legal staff at ACI was looking into what action to take at this point.  The
caller felt that I had violated the sanctity of the hallowed halls of the
meeting room and using his own words, "Things are really going on here as a
result of your releasing that CRAP to the Internet and GEnie!"

The caller raved on about why didn't I let them, (Apple), review the
transcripts prior to releasing them and that having a tape recorder present
at the meeting was also a violation of the law. He continually stressed my not
knowing how much trouble I was really in!  He stated that the transcripts made
it appear that the User Group Connection and John Santoro did not care about
the Apple end users.

My response to him was that:

a)... I made my intentions known when the meeting began by stating that we
      didn't want to be a part of non-disclosures as our intent was to make
      our users aware of the status of the Apple ][.

b)... I told him that the contents of the transcripts were exactly what took
      place at the meeting and that all remarks enclosed within the {}'s
      were editorial comments.

c)... I informed him that as I interpreted the transcripts, the User Group
      Connection; and John Santoro; and Apple Inc in general, did not care
      about APPLE ][ END USERS other than the those in the K-12 areas.

The caller went on to accuse me of being an idiot in making reference to the
egotism of the Apple CEO and that by my doing this, most people would envision
me as a stupid individual to publically make such a statement.

In the mind of this reporter, that catagory must have struck a nerve somewhere
in the Cupertino high office! I informed the caller that I felt that I had
done the correct thing in reporting the condition of the Apple ][ to the
public. I lashed him a little for making demeaning remarks about my person and
told him to let the general public make their own conclusions about my
intellectual level.

SUMMARY:  It's somewhat gratifying to know that the transcripts produced a
response from Apple.  What could prove interesting would be for them to get
their legal staff actively involved. Think of the glorious publicity that the
Apple ][ would receive.

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Note, I (Ian Schmidt) don't necessarily endorse or condemn the opinions 
in the above text, I am simply providing it for your information.  Please
don't flame me :-)




-- 
        Ian Schmidt: irsman@iastate.edu or aol.com, BITNET: twbv4@isuvax       
  "I will choose a path that's clear: I will choose free will." - Neil Peart
"..there is another large cross section of users that think the Apple front
office is infested with morons and dimwits" - Ernie Moore, Project Apple Storm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2