HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: aerostich colors
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 19:19:01 GMT

matthews@ajsh.colorado.edu (Alex Matthews) writes:

>This is my point:  Aerostitch is not the be-all and end-all riding garment,
>as many people have implied.

Yes it is! Heresey! He's a witch, burn him!

>Sure, my tastes in color range toward the neon end of the spectrum

Funny, I don't remember you wearing any neon at Steamboat last weekend.
Or is this a new taste? :-)

>Because my ideal riding suit combines all things in one neat package,
>and because it's easier to make a Gore-Tex garment colorful for a 
>longer time than to make a leather garment waterproof, I look to
>Aerostitch to blaze the trail.  I want it all, and I want it now.

There's always a custom-made suit, I wonder how much they'd want for one
in DayGlo Orange & Kawasaki Lime Green. (Or how much folks would pay to
to not wear it in public?)

>(BTW Blaine, Katy just noticed a few seams in your suit in which the
>material had bunched a bit while being stitched.  She told me the 
>technical term for this but I forgot it.  It shouldn't pose
>a safety problem, but in the long run those seams are more vulnerable 
>to fatigue.  In contrast, she couldn't find any flaws in the stitching
>of my Fieldsheer leathers.  It seems that Aerostitch is making a 
>calculated tradeoff between quality and quantity.)

Like I said, I guess I don't know what to look for. I yield to Katy on
this one, but tell her there's no way she's getting a close look at my
CoolTech jacket. Even I can see a few sloppy seams on it. :-)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
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From: jrwaters@eos.ncsu.edu (JACK ROGERS WATERS)
Subject: Re: DoD Stickers
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:18:13 GMT

>
>Does anyone have, or is anyone interested in making more of the same?  I would
>like to stick a few on to my race bikes in order to strike fear into the 
>hearts of my enemies on the track (my riding doesn't seem to do it).
>
>H. Kornfeld DoD #713


I'd like to add another 20 miles per hour to the top end of my 1978 CB400T.
I think stickers would do it.  I am interested.

-Fishnet
DoD#1919
From: djm@morpheus.wustl.edu (David Maconochie)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Helmet law speech (help!)
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:01:50 GMT
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: morpheus.wustl.edu

behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna) writes:

>	I have statistics to show that helmets don't make a statistically
>significant impact upon head injuries.  The other side can come up with
>statistics that say there is significant impact.  Even I, who hates the
>idea of helmet laws and thinks that anyone advocating helmet laws should
>be fed to a rabid llama, cannot say with a clear conscience that I think
>it is safer to ride a motorcycle without a helmet.

>	ObStatistic:  Supposedly, the state of Nevada had something like
>2.95 fatalities per 10000 rider miles before the helmet law, and 2.91
>after.  That difference is "in the noise," so to speak.  I can't remember
>the units on the number 10000 for certain.  I'll look it up if anyone cares
>(no the source wasn't _Easyriders_).

Even I, a rabid supporter of helmet laws not yet fed to the llamas, also
cannot say with a clear conscience...
I suspect the trouble with the statistics is that newly arrayed helmet
wearers will feel safer, and ride faster. I certainly experienced this
effect on first wearing leathers- I felt armoured and invincible.

Despite the statistics (whichever way they point), no-one could argue that
it would be better to take a knock on the head while wearing a bone-dome
than when not.

Any supporters for the helmet law applied to building sites (or is that just
common sense?).
-- 
--

David Maconochie
From: root@joncpc.Your.Domain.Here (0000-Admin(0000))
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HELP: SR500 carb setup
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:27:05 GMT
Organization: Your Organization Here

In article <BvEEKD.JHE@cup.hp.com>, markt@cup.hp.com (Mark Thompson) writes:
|> 
|> I'm looking for advice on setting up an SR500 with a 38mm round slide Mikunini
|> a White Bros. header and a Supertrap.  I would like to know what jets/slide
|> combinations people have found to work well.  Also i would like to know what
|> number of plates work well in the Supertrap.

Mine works well with 6 plates in the Supertrap. My carb is a stock 34mm 
with a 310 or 320 main jet(don't remember which
I left in) and stock is 300(for '78-'78 bikes). By the way later bikes(80 & 81) had 
32mm carbs with stock 260 main jet).

|> I got the bike with the exhaust parts mentioned and the stock carb. After 
|> looking at the contition of the carb I decided that it would be better to 
|> get the Mikuini.  The only problem now is that it is running really rich
|> and fouling the plug constantly.  I have played with the position of the
|> needle to no avail.
|> 

Mark,

Suggest you call White Bros. They're good people. Have helped me out with
questions a couple of times when I've called with nothing to order(aside
from the times I have). Also their service has been tremendous. Living 90
miles South, I get stuff next day on normal UPS. Anyway, they'll be able
to give you accurate info on of discs in the S.T. to go with the Mikuni.
I'd ask them about the 36mm also. Most of the street conversions I've read 
about have gone with the 36. Think the 38 is used more with increased 
displacement, wilder cams etc. WB sells both 38 & 36. Their phone
is (714) 554-9442.

Also a wealth of info on SR500s is Four Stroke Single National Owners Club.
They have a quarterly newsletter full of tips(and an SR column), plus members
who are willing to share and comminicate Thumper info. Write to:
	
	Jack Robinson, Director
	F.S.S.N.O.C.
	P.O. Box 1804
	Hutchinson , KS 67504-1804
-- 
          Jon M.(Mike) Corcoran <Mike.Corcoran@SanDiego.NCR.COM>   
		  '78 Yamaha SR500 - '72 Honda XL250 - '70 Husky 400 Cross
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From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: We are sick and tired!!
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:34:35 GMT

in article <foo.bar>, scot@bad.address says:

             [general flame-bait deleted, whining about technical info
              requests unanswered also deleted]

scotto:

i) some tech questions go unanswered.  maybe people don't know well enough
to say (not here, though :-), maybe they don't like the bike you need the
info for, maybe they're on vacation, whatever.  even denizens' requests
oft-times go unanswered.

ii) you have a mailer even weenie-er than blaine's

iii) the charter of r.m. doesn't restrict us to technical discussions --
mercifully, or i'd be more bored than i sometimes am here

iv) when people email me with a question/seeking advice based on something
i posted or what's in my .sig (bike model), i invariably respond seriously,
careful to include viewpoints besides mine, even telling the recipient the
mailpaths of others to question for a fuller answer (of course, i'm limited
to other doders and those with whom i've corresponded).  since this is entirely
behind-the-scenes, most (including bob pasker) fail to realize the contribution
many (including me) make to those asking advice about bikes, gear, safety
technique, routes, and (for me, since i'm limited by experience, only routine)
maintenance.  some of this is posted (if it's of general interest to *the
majority*), most is privately sent.

maybe people didn't know what to tell you.  maybe some didn't care.  no one
reading this group is obligated to respond.  not seeing followups to your
articles isn't a personal slight. not getting your bike running right because
no one here helped you isn't a personal slight or sign of the uselessness of
the group.  sometimes you need to try a mechanic instead of computer poseurs.

ride safe, ride with your sphincter less clenched,

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|       DoD# 0598                         [insert witty disclaimer here]   |
|                                                                          |
|             ....are there any super-special methods                      |
|                people use to get their levers hard?                      |
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|                             -- David Svoboda                             |
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From: bigdog!jon (Jon Wright)
Subject: Re: Can't trigger traffic lights
Organization: Banzai Research Institute
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:41:06 GMT

Believe it or not, I discovered from a former California Highway Patrolman of some many years that most of the time the  
round coils CAN be triggered if ridden over them just right.  The perfectly octagonal ones should be triggered by  
sitting on the leftmost edge (side?); the dual long skinny jobbies that look like a pair of breadsticks should be  
similarly sat on, but only to the leftmost breadstick.  Slowly rocking back and forth over those areas improve your  
chances of disturbing the magnetic field, the desired end result.  Brand spanking new installations are a breeze to  
trigger; as they get older and the successive years of expansion and contraction breaks the brittle wire coils, the  
detection capabilities of these puppies deteriorates.  I've heard that complaints to the special number the city  
reserves for motorists to complain about traffic lights is pretty useful.

There are a couple of old pressure-sensitive iron plates still residing in some streets; here in San Diego there's one  
on Marine World Drive.  The ex-cop stated that there was no cure for these except pizza and beer.

Incidentally I learned this stuff in traffic school specifically for motorcycles, of which he was an excellent  
instructor.  We also learned about good techniques for staying alive during lane-splitting adventures.  One good  
redeeming social value of traffic school, I suppose.

Sorry, I don't have a gnarly .sig yet, but I'm working on it.

In article <1a711hINNhqh@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
> In article 250992161057@stafford.winona.msus.edu, Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
> >> 
> >> It's not a pressure plate, it's a metal detector.  What looks like the
> >> edges of the pressure plate is a loop of wire.  Ride your bike over
> >> that, not over the center of the lane, and you may have better luck.
> >
> >Ahhh, does that mean these plastic bullets won't register?
> 
> It means it's calibrated for cages...
> 
> MOTORCYCLES won't register.
> 
> 
> ---
> Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
>   Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
> DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
>  (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: ant@galadriel.bt.co.uk (Antony Espindola)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: full face DoD?
Date: 30 Sep 92 08:20:04 GMT
Organization: Data and Business Comms, BT Labs, Martlesham, Ipswich, UK.

From article <1aabrmINNqol@fido.asd.sgi.com>, by cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com (C J Silverio):
> ---
> shoun@netcom.com (Lissa Shoun) writes:
> | stafford@msus1.msus.edu writes:
> |>	OK.  Do _all_ DoDers wear full-face helmets?
> |My men wear full-face helmets when they ride, or nothing at all.
> 
> Which reminds me.  I was thinking of making a t-shirt to
> counter all those images of bikini-babes draped over sport 
> bikes that seem to be on all the motorcycle t-shirts.  I can't
> decide between these two designs:
> 
>     Buff guy wearing nothing but a full-face helmet & a
>     condom, next to a sportbike.
> 
>     Buff guy wearing a skimpy thong & a full-face helmet,
>     holding a condom package, next to a sportbike.
> 
> In either case, the slogan would be:
> 
>     Ride Safely
> 
> (Guess the bike would have to be shaft-drive.)
> 

That reminds me of the Jiffi Condom T-Shirts...(smart name for a
condom huh? Plenty of jokes about 'Coming in a Jiffi' etc (not that I
know what they mean, you understand))

On the front of the T-Shirt it says.....

'What's the difference between Dunlop, Pirelli, Jiffi and Michellin ?'

and on the back it says.....

'Jiffi grips better in the wet.'


Antony.
DoD#1832
Organisation: European Space Technology Centre (E.S.T.E.C)
Date: Wednesday, 30 Sep 1992 11:31:53 CET
From: <ATONI@ESTEC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject:    -- GIF ftp site --

HI,
I'm just curious to know if there is an "official" ftp node for
gif or jpg bike's files.
And if it does exist whic one it is ?
I can contribute with DUCATI gifs !!

CIAO
Andrea TONI     ATONI@ESTEC.BITNET        ENV   ENV   ENV
-------------------------------------------I-----I-----I----------------
.. Bellezza e' semplicita' e modestia ..  VCO-->VCF-->VCA-->DUCATI 900SS
-------------------------------------------I-----I-----I----------------
                                          LFO   LFO   LFO
From: kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Mounting radar detectors on bikes
Summary: Duh
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:08:05 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <Stafford-051092145932@stafford.winona.msus.edu>, Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:

] Hold it.  Don't these units emit radiation, albeit very little?  Was it
] not this radiation which allegedly caused testicular cancer in a
] number of cops who put the radar gun in their lap while waiting to
] gun down speeders?  Wouldn't it be a little unwise to put the unit
] next to your body?

Yeah,  right.  It was _one_ cop.  And nothing has been (or _will_ be,
I bet ) proved.  If you're worried about extremely low-level
radiation, then don't go outside during the day, stay away from the
ground, don't smoke or go near anyone who smokes, don't go to the
dentist, and don't get any X-rays.

And, if the gun radiation _was_ significant, then the detector
radiation would be insignificant to the point that it would be worth
having it to keep you away from the guns themselves!

                                                      Kevin
 
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From: barry@fsp2.gtri.gatech.edu (Barry B Burnette)
Subject: Re: stupid people
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Keywords: FULL OF
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:06:16 GMT
X-Posted-From: fsp2.gtri.gatech.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Sep24.233107.24938@tcsi.com> markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer) writes:
>In barry@fsp2 (Barry B Burnette) writes:
>>>In article <1992Sep22.223209.2936@tcsi.com> markk@tcs.com (MarkKromer) writes
>
>>>>I autocross a modified (springs, shocks, sway bars, wheels and rubber)
>>>>1973 Honda Civic, and I've measured sustained lateral accelerations in
>>>>excess on 1.3 G on course (measured with a G-analyst). 
>>>>  more nonsense deleted
>
>>The only time a 73 civic is going to pull 1.3g is when it loses it
>>in a curve at .85g and slams into a wall, ergo 1.3g.
>
>>>>)V(ark)<               markk@tcs.com                   DoD #400
>>>>1988 FZR400            1985 ZX900 Ninja             1977 RD400D
>>>>            TCSI Berkeley, CA USA  (510) 649-3781
>
>>From the way you write, sounds like you don't ride these bikes very well.
>
>Barry, I can only imagine how pleased you must have been when you
>finally found a subject line which showed promise that you might
>actually be able to post from experience.  I must urge you, however,
>to have your mother explain to you in terms that you can comprehend
>what the posts actually say before you follow-up.
>Allow me to clarify the meaning of the subject line.
>

No, ard(V)ark, let me clarify for you in terms that you hear
daily at work:

YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT!

Barry B.
"Well, the GSXR's and FZR's may have a top-end advantage, 
 but I can take them in the turns."
                                 ard(V)ark 73 civic
From: randy@ninja.megatek.uucp (Randy Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Why is my face shield so scratched so soon?
Date: 7 Oct 92 00:10:38 GMT
Reply-To: megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California

In article <1992Oct6.215813.12638@microunity.com> ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) writes:
|In article <1992Oct6.182341.11617@adobe.com> cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
|>I have had my helmet (a Bieffe Classic, if it matters) for less than
|>five months and the face shield is scratched as hell. No, I haven't
|
|The shield's made of the softest plastic know to humankind.
|It'll scratch if you wipe it with a paper towel- that's how I
|did in the first one.  The pivot design is bad too- the shield 

  I hate to tell you both, but EVERY helmet faceshield I've ever seen will
get scratched as hell using a PAPER TOWEL on it.  Thats why the instructions
that they include with the things (those little bits of paper you never look
at when you buy your helmet and faceshields because you KNOW(tm) how to take
care of your stuff) specifically state to NOT use *anything* like a paper
towel - all the ones I've seen say to use a "soft cloth" (which, to me,
excludes paper towels).

  I've got a couple of facesheilds that are over seven years old, and the ONLY
scratches in them are from wrecks or being careless with the helmet (like
banging the helmet against the garage door when I take it off).

  You should ONLY use soap and water and a SOFT (preferrably *cotton*) cloth
to wash your faceshields (*and* fairing windshields, for that matter).  You
can SOMETIMES get away with using a squeegee thingy like you find in a
filling station, but thats a big risk, also.

Randy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy
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From: jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris)
Subject: Re: ST1100 still reigns supreme
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 01:34:09 GMT

In article <Oct.1.02.02.06.1992.13876@remus.rutgers.edu> kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz) writes:
Geez. You guys that ride FJ's are *awfully* defensive. Is this perhaps
early warning signs of Beamer envy? 8-) 

There are a couple of points I'd clarify. "Quality of assembly" was
perhaps a misnomer. The Japanese bikes I've owned suffered excessive
wear from repeated disassembly/assembly. (Hondas in particular.) BMW's
seem to be more "robust" in fastener/assembly technology. 

>], BMW's evolution vs. revolution strategy
>
>You mean, avoid having to make a new engine for as long as possible?
>I can certainly see the merit in designing an engine that can hold its
>own for a couple of decades, but it is not any better than retooling
>for an ever-changing market when necessary. 
>
This is perhaps the crux of the issue. As I've gotten older, I've come
to appreciate the longevity of well-thought-out designs. BMW doesn't avoid
retooling - they completely retooled the Spandau factory several years
ago with automated devices - but they continued to manufacture the 
same engines. As I said recently I'm buying a '92 boxer before they're
unavailable anymore. Because they don't have computers and ABS and
all the wonderful current technology. A design that's some sixty years
old. Don't try to convince me that an FJ meets that criteria, it's
a specious argument. (BTW, I did own a Yamaha in the mid-70's and
they wouldn't give me the time of day - glad to hear they've changed.)

>] the amazing accessories
>
>What can you get for a BMW that you can't get for my FJ?
>
You've obviously never looked at a BMW accessories catalog.

There's no denying the Japanese excel at manufacturing. They
just keep leaving the soul out in final assembly. 8-)

-John
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From: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: aerostich colors
Date: 25 Sep 92 20:35:20 GMT
Reply-To: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)

kens@hplsla.hp.com (Ken Snyder) writes:

>  When my wife bought me my suit for my birthday (wow, 4 years ago
>tomorrow!) she called in just 2 weeks before the due date.  After
>explaining the situation to Andy himself, she had a suit in her hot
>little hands in 1 week (but I didn't know about it for another week!)!

It took a whole week for your wife to get her hands on your "birthday
suit"?  Playing hard to get again, huh Ken?  Sorry, I just couldn't
resist.

Well, I figured I'd put in my $0.25 in on the subject.  As far as lead
times, when I ordered my suit a bit over a year ago, the didn't have
my size/color combination in stock either (I think it is a rare
occurance when they do).  They quoted me 4 weeks, and it took 6.  No
biggee.  I sized it according to the charts, but the waist to knee
length just wasn't long enough in mine, so I got the large pants (I
have room around the wasteband for a cat or two, but at least they are
long enough), and it took 2 weeks to get the large pants.

I ended up returning the jacket about 2 months later, because one of
the teeth tore out of the zipper, and they turned it around in 2
weeks, no charge.

As far as workmanship, I'm very pleased.  It has held up well,
although I haven't really done much to abuse it, like fall down.  It
fits OK, but as I mentioned the waist is a bit oversized considering
the rest of the suit.  I'm not one of these skinny tall guys either,
I'm 6'3" with a 38" waist (or larger, depending on the season).  I
suppose they size it for Harley riders just to be safe (just kidding
guys).  Also, the neck closure is too tight, but the rest of the
jacket is comfortable, and spacious enough to fit a large sweater for
me.  I can't imagine a guy with the 44" waist and the 12" neck these
two extremes would fit :-).

Being a California poser'e (Qualye spelling), I got the black/black.
As far as visiblilty, the reflective stripes are better than the shiny
zippers on my VPilot.  I don't go in for neon leathers, so it's
generally either the Aerostitch or the VPilot and jeans.  I usually
wear my reflective vest at night with the VPilot, and in the rain I
wear my bright yellow rainsuit.  I want to get a new bright yellow
RF200, instead of the metallic blue one I've got now.  (I'll let the
audience guess which popular BWM bike I currently ride most of the
time, and the color combination I got it in :-).


--
Ken Wallich
wallich@ncd.com  
ken@wallich.com
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