HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cwalsh@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (Craig Walsh)
Subject: Re: BDO ???
Organization: Macquarie University, Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 01:34:16 GMT

In article <craigb.727916989@moraine> craigb@resmel.bhp.com.au (Craig Blundell) writes:
>Well, how was it ???
>
>Did the rain affect it in any way ???
>
>Comments please !!!
>
>
>
I would especially like to know if Iggy Pop's set was any good. Did he
do a range of his stuff or just recent things.

Also, did Helmet play in Melbourne?

Craig Walsh
cwalsh@orac.efs.mq.edu.au
From: phone@coombs.anu.edu.au (matthew green)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: JJJ'S "ENDLESS SUMMER"
Date: 21 Jan 93 10:42:00 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2

cde@mulka (Colin Entwisle) writes:

>	it certainly is beginning to feel endless

...  

This is probably why I don't listen to the radio any more..   .

..
From: cde@mulka (Colin Entwisle)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: G&R's worst song
Date: 25 Jan 1993 23:42:16 GMT
Organization: University of Melbourne
NNTP-Posting-Host: mulka.ph.unimelb.edu.au
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Iain Pidcock (aa593@Freenet.carleton.ca) wrote:


: Kevin,
:      I assure you Kylie Minogue did not write "Locomotion"
: It is an old song that she ripped off (Like Michael Bolton
: does on a regular basis).  Kylies stuff is all fre-fab
: done by the guys at the hit factory.  She doesn't
: write it.  So maybe there is no worst song she ever
: wrote.  (Cuz she don't write 'em)!!!!!!
:               Iain

	at the risk of giving my own game away
	does this response mean rolf did write stairway
				gunnas " " " " heavens
				etc

		CE
Newsgroups: aus.music
From: darrin@marvin.research.canon.oz.au (Darrin Smart)
Subject: Re: rrrrRRRAAAGGGEEEEeee
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 04:13:11 GMT

In article <11732@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> bakker@cs.uq.oz.au (Paultje Bakker)  
writes:

> 1. How can I find out what Rage will be featuring each weekend? Is there
> an information number?

Yes there is. 0055 29490. I'm amazed you didn't see it on the show - they  
flash it up at the start of each show.

It's best to call in the evening of the night of the show. They are  
sometimes a bit slow updating the recorded message. The calls go for a few  
minutes and list every song and the time it appears.

 - Darrin
   darrin@research.canon.oz.au
From: jamie@zikzak.apana.org.au (Jamie Scuglia)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: Fab_Groups
Date: 23 Jan 93 10:57:05 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Zikzak public access UNIX, Melbourne Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: zikzak.apana.org.au

caroline@tplrd.tpl.oz.au (Caroline Postma) writes:

>In article <1993Jan20.065340.2045@g2syd.genasys.com.au>, johnw@g2syd.genasys.com.au (John Williams) writes:

{ John writes about the highly-popular and talented Aussie groups, Girlfriend
and The Teen Queens }

>Sorry mate but you really missed the spot here, you can only post to this
>newsgroup if you are a clouds/frente/otherpoliticallycorrectbandwithfemale
>singer fan, other contributions will be vehemently ignored.

Bullsh*t!!!!!  Speak for yourself!  And anyway, Girlfriend
play a huge part in producing their material, so they aren't
"puppets" as someone so wrongly put it in another post. 
And if they were only puppets, how come they are so successful here?
Newsgroups: aus.music
From: ck@iconix.oz.au (Chris Karadaglis)
Subject: Jamie defends Kylie, news at 11
Organization: Iconix Pty Ltd (World Headquarters)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:21:00 GMT

In <1jjjjoINN9bb@zikzak.apana.org.au> zik@zikzak.apana.org.au (Michael Saleeba) writes:

>>=> >In <1993Jan15.032810.4620@freenet.carleton.ca> aa593@Freenet.carleton.ca (Iain Pidcock) writes:
>>{{ To summarise, Iain Pidcock, from Canada, apologizes for upsetting
>>   a few people about his anti-Kylie comments in aus.music.  Now,
>>   Chris replies:
>>}}

>>ck@iconix.oz.au (Chris Karadaglis) writes:
>>=>Gee, and you were doing so well up til now... go ahead, dump it on
>>=>the bitch, most of us hate her too.

>jamie@zikzak.apana.org.au (Jamie Scuglia) writes:
>>Most of us do NOT hate her.  It is just a few individuals like yourself

>Jamie is, of course, quite right. I for one don't hate Kylie. Not at
>all. 

>Her _music_ on the other hand is quite excrable. It has been shown to
>cause projectile vomiting in laboratory rats, has been coincident with
>an increase in overcrowding in mental hospitals and has been rated as
>a social disaster on the same scale as the AIDS epidemic :-)

Jamie - I don't really know what gave you the impression that I don't
like Australian music - but I'm talking about a different brand of
>MUSIC< than you. Take bands like Falling Joys, Clouds, Maybe Dolls, 
Divinyls, early INXS, the Fauves, Nick Cave, Things of Stone and Wood,
etc etc etc. This is what I call good Australian music. Then take
the late Jimmy Barnes, Michael Hutchpants, Kylie, Dannnniii, Jason,
Craig McLaughin', etc etc etc, who have either sold out to the marketing
droids and/or failed to produce anything which resembles music unless
your definition of music is a MIDI sequencer controlling a million
synthesisers, a pitch-correction box for your vocals (Stock, Aiken &
Waterman used this for Kylie), and a drum machine on speed. I love 
Australian music because it's raw, full of energy and doesn't conform
to a marketing strategy. This is my definition of music. From what I
see, yours is based on charts and sales, and no tits.

Anyway, gotta go, the soapbox is falling apart...

>+-----------------------------------+----------------------------------------+
>|          -|-   Zik   -|-          |           WANTED!                      |
>|     zik@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au    |       Schodinger's cat                 |
>|          Michael Saleeba          |        Dead or alive       - unknown   |
>+-----------------------------------+----------------------------------------+

Onya Michael! This post made my day...

ObNonMusic : Billy Ray Cyprus has a concert on at the Tennis Centre.
The bloody TENNIS CENTRE! How does he expect to fill it? What other
nauseating songs will he play other than Achy Breaky Heart? Will
they supply buckets? Will they move the seats in the centre so people
can do the Achy Breaky Constipation Dance? Will someone nuke the place
on the night of the concert and purify the gene pool?

See ya at the Big Day Out!!

   Shckwish! (Chris Karadaglis)


Newsgroups: aus.music
From: pet@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (paul eng-yi tan)
Subject: Re: New Zealand record label list
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 06:56:40 GMT

brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May) writes:
>Go buy the "Australasian Music Industry Directory". A 6 monthly directory
>of EVERYTHING to do with the industry in Australasia and parts of ASIA.

Used to be "australian music industry" right? I have an older issue...
My main gripe about it is : lots of smaller labels which I've heard of
by word of mouth weren't included... Particularly dance labels...
DO you have a copy of this book, are VIcious and Razor and other small
dance labels like that listed?

>It costs $10 and can be bought from your local AUSMUSIC type organization.
>(Victorian Rock Foundation in VIC).

Yup, unfortunately last time they ran out :( It's a really decent
book I guess...

Ciao !
Paul

--
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Beloved, New Order, Pet Shop Boys, Stone Roses, Inspiral Carpets,
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From: dcook@spam.ua.oz (David Cook)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Song named !
Date: 21 Jan 93 05:00:09 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Stats Pure & Applied Maths, Uni of Adelaide, Australia

The mystery band was The Eurogliders - thanks to all who replied.
(Now you can all stop filling my mailbox :-)

-- 
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Assistant Computer Manager, Stats, Pure and Applied Maths, Adelaide Uni.
"Behind the lines, a face that glimmers. Still looking for a face that shines."
       - Heartland, The Sisters of Mercy
Newsgroups: aus.music
From: aa593@Freenet.carleton.ca (Iain Pidcock)
Subject: Re: G&R's worst song
Reply-To: aa593@Freenet.carleton.ca (Iain Pidcock)
Organization: The National Capital Freenet
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 04:30:01 GMT


In a previous article, kjm@buc.edu.au (Kevin Moore) says:

>In article <1jvb0rINNdbd@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU> cde@mulka (Colin Entwisle) writes:
>
>>        i used to respect the Gunnas
>>        i dont care what anyone else says
>>        but Knocking on Heavens door is the worst song
>>Guns and Roses ever wrote!
>
>>                                        CE
>
>Yes, and "Stairway to Heaven" is the worst song Rolf Harris ever wrote!
>
>And "Locomotion" is the worst song that Kylie Minogue ever wrote!
>
>And "Fanfare for the Common Man" is the worst song that Emerson, Lake and 
>Palmer ever wrote!
>
>Need I go on?
>
>
>
>******************************************************************************
>Little by little we subtract            	*
>Faith and fallacy from fact,            	*	Kevin Moore
>The illusory from the true                      *     kjm@buc.edu.au
>And then starve upon the residue.  Hoffenstein  *
>******************************************************************************
>

Kevin,
     I assure you Kylie Minogue did not write "Locomotion"
It is an old song that she ripped off (Like Michael Bolton
does on a regular basis).  Kylies stuff is all fre-fab
done by the guys at the hit factory.  She doesn't
write it.  So maybe there is no worst song she ever
wrote.  (Cuz she don't write 'em)!!!!!!
              Iain

-- 
Iain Pidcock  - Carleton University Student, Ottawa Canada

For the future we look to the stars, they look back and laugh
"What me Worry?"- Alfred E. Newman
Newsgroups: aus.music
From: brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May)
Subject: My Big Day Out part 1 (melb)
Keywords: wet, windy, wonderful
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 08:00:28 GMT




Rambling summary of my big day out follows:

1PM:

wander down to the train station - find out you have to stop off
at some weird station & catch a bus to the event. Bus is a private
charter bus - another $2 for a (as we found out) 2km max walk.
Starts to rain....oh well!

2PM:

arrived, bag searched ( got food in & realised later that I shouldn't have
- nice), wandered over to the big stage to see the closing stages of
Carter USM. They were standing miles apart on the stage - good sound, large
crowd..good atmosphere. They finished.....over to stage 2 to see helmet...
have to climb this weird smooth wooden steep ramp to leave the main stage's
field (mooo, baaaa etc). [what we didn't know is that this ramp turns into
a super dooper mudslide later after 1000s of weary feet shuffle over it - 
oh what fun!]

2somethingPM:

Helmet - never heard em before - liked the driving dirty/clean aggressive
rawk done by clean-ish looking lads (as opposed to the long haired types
like our nerve-ana friends). Got a bit samey afyter a while but could imagine
driving the hume highway in a rather fast car with this on, quite happily.
Steam is rising from the body surfers at the front of the stage. Many waves
to catch.

who-caresPM:

caught the last 30 secs of the Underground Lovers in the big barn. Hmm.

just after who-caresPM:

even more rain and Mudhoney are late, so the meanies play their set on stage
1. Went for beer

where's me brolley PM:

got to beer hall - need tag to get in beer hall. got to tag dispensing place.
queued for ?? in a gutter-cum-river.....went back to beer hall.....queued
for vouchers for beer........queued for beer.......YOU RAN OUT OF CIDER????.
Watched Mantissa and TISM on the screens in there. Wish I'd gone out to
see TISM actually, they did have some weird headmasks this time - 4M nylon
'condom' like hood with 3 helium ballons in each.....you can use your
imagination I guess. more beer..........hmmm, aren't Sonic Youth on the
main stage???? Oh shit...let's go.....

PM:

Sonic Youth were, well, very good - sound, played all the 'faves' from
"Goo", "Dirty", also teenage riot, schizophrenia.....etc. SY's latest "3 fun
things you can do to break your guitar" include ramming drumsticks under the
strings and hammering away at it with other sticks. Someone lost their wallet,
had it thrown on stage, and the contents examined by ?Thurston? for the 
pleasure of the audience....

part 2 tomorrow....

brian
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| CSIRO/DIT, 723 Swanston st | TEL +61 3 282 2613 -- FAX +61 3 282 2600 |
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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: aa593@Freenet.carleton.ca (Iain Pidcock)
Subject: Re: Rap music
Organization: National Capital Freenet, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 04:13:20 GMT


Oh oh.  Misunderstood again.  Please, no one is suggesting
banning anything.  I am the last person to suggest censorship
and such like.  I just thought that it would be useful if
people stopped to think about what they are listening to.
I know that a lot of people wholeheartedly accept the
content of rap music as somehow being an "education".
Kids who listen to the more violent crap should be aware 
that there is nothing particularilly glamorous about 
violence.  If you saw a ghetto in L.A. and then 
listened to kids talk like they somehow identify with
this sort of thing you would understand.  I'm talking 
about kids from neighbourhoods and cities not plagued
by poverty and violence.  What do they really get
from NWA talking about killing police?  They seem to 
enjoy the idea.  It is a fact that rap music has 
been linked to the dissemination of gang values throughout
society.  I mean, listen to the content!  Now lets 
not go thinking that I hold Ice Cube responsible for
all the worlds ills, but I don't think that it is 
socially productive to condone violence.  I guess it 
is really up to the listener to exercise good 
judgement, but I remind you, good judgement is not
something adolescents are known for.
     Also, don't go thinking I'm a priest or 
anything.  I like all kinds of music, and believe it
or not, think it is your right to listen to whatever
the HELL you want (ooooohhh noooooh a baaaad wooooord).
I just want people to think about music and listen to
the message.  Some music doesn't have a message. Fine.
Is there anything in that message that you agree with
and why or why not?  This might seem like a big task
but really its not that big of a deal. Try it with
Motorhead sometime...
-- 
Iain Pidcock  - Carleton University Student, Ottawa Canada

For the future we look to the stars, they look back and laugh
"What me Worry?"- Alfred E. Newman
Newsgroups: aus.music
From: ck@iconix.oz.au (Chris Karadaglis)
Subject: Re: Fab_Groups
Organization: Iconix Pty Ltd (World Headquarters)
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:02:12 GMT

In <1jr8a1INNdt@zikzak.apana.org.au> jamie@zikzak.apana.org.au (Jamie Scuglia) writes:

>caroline@tplrd.tpl.oz.au (Caroline Postma) writes:

>>In article <1993Jan20.065340.2045@g2syd.genasys.com.au>, johnw@g2syd.genasys.com.au (John Williams) writes:

>{ John writes about the highly-popular and talented Aussie groups, Girlfriend
>and The Teen Queens }

>>Sorry mate but you really missed the spot here, you can only post to this
>>newsgroup if you are a clouds/frente/otherpoliticallycorrectbandwithfemale
>>singer fan, other contributions will be vehemently ignored.

>Bullsh*t!!!!!  Speak for yourself!  And anyway, Girlfriend
>play a huge part in producing their material, so they aren't
>"puppets" as someone so wrongly put it in another post. 
>And if they were only puppets, how come they are so successful here?

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrgghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Girlfriend?! "I'll be good to you baby baby baby. Take it, take it,
take it from me. I'll be good to you baby baby baby. Take it,
take it from me, I won't break you heaaaaaaaaaart, take it from me,
I'll be good to you baby baby baby. Take it, take it,
take it from me. I'll be good to you baby baby baby. Take it,
take it from me, I won't break you heaaaaaaaaaart, take it from me,
I'll be good to you baby baby baby. Take it, take it,
take it from me. I'll be good to you baby baby baby. Take it,
take it from me, I won't break you heaaaaaaaaaart, take it from me,
I'll be good to you baby baby baby. Take it, take it,
take it from me. I'll be good to you baby baby baby. Take it,
take it from me, I won't break you heaaaaaaaaaart, take it from me,
I'll be good to you baby baby baby. Take it, take it,
take it from me. I'll be good to you baby baby baby. Take it,
take it from me, I won't break you heaaaaaaaaaart, take it from me,
I'll be good to you baby baby baby. Take it, take it,
take it from me. I'll be good to you baby baby baby. Take it,
take it from me, I won't break you heaaaaaaaaaart, take it from me,
I'll be good to you baby baby baby. Take it, take it,
take it from me. I'll be good to you baby baby baby. Take it,
take it from me, I won't break you heaaaaaaaaaart, take it from me,
I'll be good to you baby baby baby. Take it, take it, etc etc etc etc.

Why are they successful? Because genocide and drugs are illegal in
this country. What part do they produce in their material? The 
outfits for their video clips? Their hair? Their nice, bright white
teeth?

Teen Queens? Jamie, you're right. To call them puppets would be a 
gross overstatment. I suggest amoeba.

Take care, there's some real bad taste goin' round,
	
	Shckwish! (Chris Karadaglis)

Newsgroups: aus.music
From: a.norrish@trl.oz.au (Mark E. Smith's speech therapist-ah)
Subject: Re: Want to start a band (Adelaide)
Organization: Telecom Research Laboratories
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 07:38:49 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.085416.165618@dstos3.dsto.gov.au> mzs@dstos3.dsto.gov.au writes:
>I am interested in putting together a band in the Adelaide area.

[....]

>Those musicians who have most influenced by playing and songwriting include

I'm sorry, I have a cold.

>Mark Knopfler, Extreme, Def Leppard, Noiseworks and some many less raucous 
>bands too numerous to mention.

Mark Knopfler. I'm always hearing about him getting arrested for being too 
raucous. 

Def Leppard. AOR must stand for All Out Raucousness.

Andrew Norrish.

'Raucous - adj. hoarse; harsh-sounding, as a voice.' - Macquarie 
dictionary. (actually, when I looked up 'raucous', there was a picture of 
Noiseworks) 
Newsgroups: aus.music,alt.music.alternative
From: bakker@cs.uq.oz.au (Paultje Bakker)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: music radio (Re: Johnny Diesel and the Injectors)
Date: 26 Jan 93 00:15:23 GMT
Reply-To: bakker@cs.uq.oz.au
Distribution: aus
Organization: Depts. of Computer Science & Psychology, The University of Queensland, Brisbane, Australia

In article <3069@eram.esi.COM.AU> dave@eram.esi.COM.AU (Dave Horsfall) writes:
>In article <pet.727350415@munagin>,
>    pet@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (paul eng-yi tan) writes:
>
>Ah yes, I remember listening to Radio Caroline...  Good music, too.
>
Caroline! Caroline! Oh, that brings back memories. It was a pirate
station, and commercial to boot, but it was easily the *best* radio
station I have ever listened to.

If I ever get rich I will start a station based on Caroline
and blow the MMM's out of the water. 
Such a simple concept really. Instead of endlessly playing singles,
they played album TRACKS off current and classic old LP's.
They really gave you a good idea as to the quality (or otherwise)
of a wide range of albums.

But my favourite part were the weekends, when they played Album 
Top 30's sent in by listeners. Such a diversity of music. Some people 
would list really obscure albums, others classic soul albums, others 
heavy metal. I learned more about popular music listening to Radio 
Caroline on a weekend than 10 years of watching Countdown.

Unfortunately their ship ran aground in a storm and the
authorities impounded it. Oh, the injustice.......

paultje
(With the Caroline theme music washing through my head)
(Anyone remember Radio Mi Amigo?)
--
(paul) bakker@cs.uq.oz.au     |  
computer science/ psychology  |  "The floggings will continue 
university of qld 4072        |   ... until morale improves! "
terra australis               |   
Newsgroups: aus.music
From: euan_s@bunyip.atnf.csiro.au (Euan Troup)
Subject: Re: Tanita Tikarim
Reply-To: etroup@atnf.csiro.au
Organization: Australia Telescope, Parkes Radio Observatory.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 07:53:03 GMT


In article <zik.727670718@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au>,
zik@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Michael Saleeba [Zik]) writes:
>Does anyone know anything about Tanita Tikarim? I have heard only one
>of her songs, ages ago - "Twist in my sobriety". It has haunted me for
>a couple of years now and I was wondering if anyone knew of any albums
>she might have produced?
>
>+---------------------------------+------------------------------------
>------+
>|         -|-   Zik   -|-         |   "She's thinking long and hard
>about   |
>|   zik@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au    |    that wild sound, and wondering; 
>|
>|         Michael Saleeba         |    will it last?" - Sonic Youth    
>|
>+---------------------------------+------------------------------------
>------+
>

	Tanita Tikaram has put out at least 2 albums, the first was 'Ancient 
Heart' which had 'Twist In My Sobriety' and a couple of other OK songs. The
second was pretty flat. I think there was a third album. 
Anyway, Alexei Sayle hates her.


Euan Troup,	etroup@atnf.csiro.au	Australia Telescope, Parkes Observatory.
..mostly harmless.
From: kjm@buc.edu.au (Kevin Moore)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: Rap music
Date: 21 Jan 1993 23:35:26 GMT
Organization: Physics Department - Ballarat University College
NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.132.16.8

In article <1993Jan21.212449.22893@g2syd.genasys.com.au> davew@g2syd.genasys.com.au (Dave White) writes:

>As to the implied violence of your example, any culture that allows 
>rampant and seemingly uncontrolled use of guns deserves everything 
>it gets!

I don't know. I think having to listen to rap music is cruel and unusual 
punishment, even for a society which enshrines the right to carry murder 
weapons in its constitution.

******************************************************************************
Little by little we subtract            	*
Faith and fallacy from fact,            	*	Kevin Moore
The illusory from the true                      *     kjm@buc.edu.au
And then starve upon the residue.  Hoffenstein  *
******************************************************************************
From: kjm@buc.edu.au (Kevin Moore)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Barry Manilow (was Re: Rap music)
Date: 27 Jan 1993 23:56:27 GMT
Organization: Physics Department - Ballarat University College
NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.132.16.8

In article <1993Jan26.024546.9270@freenet.carleton.ca>
aa593@F4reenet.carleton.ca (Iain Pidcock) writes:

>Kevin,
>     Thanks for your insight.  I am now going to retreat to
>the mountains of Chile to find myself.  To think I was
>destined for the fringes of society.  Thanks for pointing
>out my impending doom.  To think I have lost my mind at
>21 years of age.  I have my studies of Psychology to thank
>for that.  Take care and I hope that when I return, rap
>is gone as you had predicted it would.  Boy o boy, what
>was I thinking....   :)

There are worse things in life than being destined for the fringes of 
society. Such as not being destined to the fringes of society and 
finding yourself buying Barry Manilow or Kylie Minogue records. 
******************************************************************************
Little by little we subtract            	*
Faith and fallacy from fact,            	*	Kevin Moore
The illusory from the true                      *     kjm@buc.edu.au
And then starve upon the residue.  Hoffenstein  *
******************************************************************************