From: garyd@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Gary Deol)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re:Khalistan
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 01:12:31 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #2, Edmonton, AB, Canada

A reply to a message written by: gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal)
 
>>  First thing first that is a VERY serious accusation that you are
>>making against me that I replied to a "non-existant post" are you
>>prepared to back it up?  Are you saying Mr. Agrawal is denying 
>>posting this message - maybe you just missed it BUT I DID NOT
>>make a fake message to reply to (especially a msg with such an
>>insult against the Sikhs)!  
 
 
>>when in fact, and i'm willing to bet he already knew that the
>>revolting tradition of handing out ladoos was started by the
>>Hindus in Amritsar'84.  So then I just took a quick blow at 
 
 
>Though I see no point in replying to a rabid fanatic, but since 
>my posting seems to have a little credibility, I want to affirm 
>that the posting above was not a fictitious one cooked up by Mr.
>Gary. And I still maintain that the act of distributing ladoos
>was an insult to a large section of the Indian population.  
 
Are you willing to backup your remark with a $wager$? :^)
 
 
>Huh?! I don't recall seeing a single Hindu distributing sweets
>on hearing the death of Bhindrawale. Sure, we were all a little 
>relieved that a major terrorist had been eliminated and we also 
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
  You just contradicted yourself, you first call Bhindranwale a 
terrorist and then in your next statement you say that the Sikhs
would be "deeply hurt", since when would somebody be "deeply hurt" 
when a `terrorist' dies, a freedom fighter yes, but not a terrorist! 
 
>knew that our Sikh neighbours must be deeply hurt by this news. We 
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>were sensible enough to not go and add any salt to the injured 
>sentiments of our Sikh neighbours. My parents were in the hope that 
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>all this political BS would die down and all the tensions between
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>their community and ours would soon end.  When you have known someone
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>for more than 25 years as neighbours, then it is not easy to let 
>such differences come in the way of freindship. And that is the 
>reason we avoided raising this topic with them whenever we met them.
>(This was the case not just between my family and our Sikh neighbours.
>This was the case with many other Hindu Families having Sikh 
>neighbors.)
 
  Out of curiosity did you expect the Americans to forget all about
the attack at Pearl Harbor the following day?   It is admirable that 
you avoid raising the topic so you don't bring back bad memories, 
but what does your government try achieving when it appoints the 
`butcher of Punjab' (Mr. Ray) as the new ambassador of India to 
America? <-- possibly to insult the Sikhs further and bring back more 
bad memories?
 
>However, they did not show those very sentiments that we exercised 
>towards them. In one single act of distributing sweets, they showed 
>that they could not respect our sentiments/sorrow as we did theirs. 
>Surely they realized that we respected IG just as much as they 
>respected Bhindrawale. I repeat again "SOME NERVE". 
 
  Look dude how many times do I have to tell you it was those fanatic
Hindus who first distributed sweets, I think I got some pictures of 
it around here somewhere, want me to mail them to you along with the 
dozen or so news clippings to prove my point?????
 
>However, the differences have been patched up again and my family 
>and the Sikh family are again good neighbors as before. Thank god 
>they aren't under the impression that Hindus are out to get Sikhs 
>(the way you are).
 
  `Hindus are out to get Sikhs in Punjab', well not your normal 
ordinary Punjabi Hindu's, besides if they were they would be dead meat 
before they even could utter the word Tarn Taran.  Strange isn't it 
how the Delhi Sikhs sure felt the Hindus were "out to get" them, I 
wonder what could of possibly ever made them think that?  Thoa 
India's government has sure proved in the past that they are out to 
get all Sikhs!
 
>>him by saying you were lucky it wasn't for the "Blood for Blood"
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>>aired on the Indian television broadcasts; ALL the suddenly
>>everybody is crying foul.  This is where the hypocritical Hindu
>>mentality really bothers me it is JUST FINE WHEN HE SAID IT 
>>- nobody even said a word, but when I reply with a similiar rude 
>>remark a dozen guys try slamming me for posting it!
 
 
>The above is not correct. Reread your statements. It is has a future 
>tense that implies you are still out to get revenge and that you are 
>still waiting for the blood for blood bath. Nowhere does it indicate 
>that I was lucky that the Sikhs had not resorted to a blood for blood 
>revenge. (If your grammar is bad, then all is forgiven but I don't 
>think that is the case). Yours is a typical threat of any fanatic that 
>belies your emotional unstability.
 
  Actually it was a grammer error, hence why would I use the term
"you were lucky"... 
 
>Go see a shrink, Sir.
 
 Are you a doctor specializing in mental disorder - NO!  So you have 
no credability to backup your remark!
 

Gary Deol              garyd@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian