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From: nico@athena.mit.edu (Nicolas Reinecke)
Subject: Re: German Reunification
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 14:15:34 GMT

In article <wunner.715631504@nova>, wunner@nova.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de (Guenter Wunner) writes:
|> jimmo@sco.COM (James Mohr) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> >Ich wollte bloss fragen, wie die Deutsche sich fuehlen, dass
|> >unser President Bush selber die deutsche Wiedervereinigung
|> >verursacht hat? Auch dazu, hat er den Zusammenbruch von
|> >Kommunismus in Osteuropa verursacht. Ich war damals in 
|> >Deutschland, aber ich habe nicht so was nicht gewusst. 
|> >Offensichtlich hat er alles im Hintergrund gemacht und aus
|> >reine Grosszuegigkeit wollte er dass das deutsche Volk
|> >denken taet, dass sie selber alles gemacht haben ohne 
|> >jegliche Hilfe der Amerikaner. Ist er nicht Lieb?
|> >Ich habe gedacht, dass die Deutsche, Tscheche, Russe, usw
|> >alles allein gemacht haben aber wenn man die Annahmerede
|> >von Bush gehoert hat, wuerde man denken, dass er alles
|> >selber gemacht hat.
|> 
|> >Na ja, ich habe gedacht Ihr wollte es wissen. 
|> 
|> >jim
|> 
|> Hey, alter!
|> Kannste das mal n bisschen genauer erklaeren, wieso George Bush uns
|> bei der Wiedervereinigung und beim Glasnost im Ostblock geholfen hat?
|> Das hoer ich jetzt wirklich zum ersten mal!? Was soll der denn da
|> bitteschoen geholfen haben? (Okay, okay, ich will ja deinen Bush nicht
|> runtermachen, aber das ist mir nun echt ganz neu).
|> Ueber eine Erklaerung deiner Mail waer ich dankbar.
|> Tschuessle,
|> 	Lukas.
|> 
|> (lukas@trillian.tp1.ruhr-uni-bochum.de or lukas@134.147.160.21)
|> 
|> PS: Und wegen mir brauchst du nicht unbedingt in Deutsch schreiben,
|> schreib in der Sprache, in der Du dich besser ausdruecken kannst.
|> 

Hey Lucas,

hast du den invisible smiley nicht gesehen? Ein kleiner hint: GOP convention,
Bush's acceptance speech? Faellt der Groschen?

Ach so, viel wichtiger, Bush hat auch bei der Revolution in Polen geholfen. Er
war so zu sagen einer der ersten Solidarnoszler in der westlichen Welt. Alles
klar?

Bis denn, Nico
From: carl.camurca%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Carl Camurca) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Radikalismus? Nein, D
Date: 7 Sep 92 22:18:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Travel Online, St. Louis, MO
Reply-To: carl.camurca%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Carl Camurca) 

BM>>Sie vergleichen das Ku Klux Klan mit den Black Panthers?  Was genau
BM>>haben die Black Panthers gemacht, das gar zum vergleichen ist?
BM>Der Ku Klux Klan ist Gewalt von Konservativen, von besizenden Buergern (syst
BM>terstuetzende Gewalt)
BM>daher "rechts"

BM>Die Black Panthers sind Gewalt gegen die herrschende Ordnung.
BM>daher "links" (gegen den Staat)

Wieviele Weisse haben die Black Panthers denn gelyncht? Die Zahl wuerde
mich vor allem im Vergleich mit den Toten durch den KKK interessieren.

Weiterhin wuerde mich die Zahl der Todesopfer durch linken Terrorismus
im Vergleich zu den Opfern durch rechten Terrorismus interssieren.
Oder liegt der Unterschied nur in dem Scheckbuch der Opfer der beiden
Gruppen?

BM>Boris!

Gruss, Carl.

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From: kai@depeche.toppoint.de (Kai Voigt)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Email to Oldenburg, Germany?
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 10:48:57 +0200
Distribution: world               
Organization: 

greenie@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
>
> Hello;  I'm posting this for a friend of mine.  If you can help him out, I'm
> sure he'd appreciate it!  Please send HIM E-mail if you think you can answer
> his question... thank you very much!
>
> ---------
>
> I would like to know if there is anyone who knows of someone that lives
> in Oldenburg, Germany and has access to the internet. I am interested in
> contacting someone that is living and going to school there as an
> exchange student from North Kingstown RI USA. I can be contacted at
> address ALEXAO@IDS.NET

Try postmaster@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de to get further information.

Kai.



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From: carl.camurca%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Carl Camurca) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Auslander
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:07:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Travel Online, St. Louis, MO
Reply-To: carl.camurca%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Carl Camurca) 

SPG>Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
SPG>From: spg@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Stephen P. Guthrie)
SPG>Subject: Auslander
SPG>Message-ID: <1992Sep8.175733.6830@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
SPG>Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:57:33 GMT

SPG>These reports of anti-foreigner violence in Germany in recent weeks are
SPG>rather disturbing. I am moving to the Stuttgart area. I look Western
SPG>European (blue eyes, etc), but am not fluent with the language. Should
SPG>I be concerned?

No, your look happens to be trendy in Germany. As you are moving to
Baden-Wuerttemberg, you as American will be welcomed.
You can get along with English, but do learn at least a little German.
The effort is worth it (you'll discover) and it will be greatly
appreciated by the people. Even if you stammer only a few phrases.

Besides, I'm glad you asked. It shows the deteriorating German image
abroad. Damn, Germans, DO something!

Greetinx, Carl.

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From: jamolina@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Molina)
Subject: Alt.visa.US
Organization: Syracuse University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 19:02:42 EDT


To all of you guys with experience or questions about U.S. visas, residence,
and/or citizenship. There is a new newsgroup called alt.visa.us to discuss
this topic in detail. We encourage all those interested to join the group
and help clear up the intricacies of U.S. immigration laws. We appreciate
your help!

Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: collet@scripps.edu (Thomas Collet)
Subject: Priv. Autoexport von den USA nach Deutschland ???
Organization: The Scripps Research Institute, La Jolla, California, USA
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 18:32:08 GMT

Hat jemand hier schon einmal versucht, einen Wagen von den USA
nach Deutschland zu bringen? Der Behoerdenweg scheint ja da ganz
schoen kompliziert zu sein. Wenn das jemand schon einmal erfolg-
reich hinter sich gebracht hat, waere ich interessiert, von ihm/
ihr zu hoeren.
Tschuess,

Thomas           COLLET@SCRIPPS.EDU
From: carl.camurca%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Carl Camurca) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Aussiedler
Date: 7 Sep 92 22:05:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Travel Online, St. Louis, MO
Reply-To: carl.camurca%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Carl Camurca) 

AC>Laut mehreren Posts haben die territorialen Ansprueche der BRD mit der
AC>Wiedervereinigung eine Ende genommen.

AC>Aber, was sind dann die Aussiedler ? Sind sie deutsch oder nicht ?
AC>Haben sie eine doppelte Staatsangehoerigkeit ? Wer wird als deutsch
AC>empfunden? Ist das mittels der Grenzen von 1937 bestimmt ?

Jeder, dessen Familie einmal einen Deutschen Schaeferhund hatte.
Natuerlich nicht laenger als 300 Jahre her.

AC>Was ist der Sinn der Aussiedlern-Politik ?

Gute Frage.

AC>Danke fuer die Aufklaerung.

Bitte.

AC>Arno.

Carl.


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From: jbronstad@UMASSD.EDU
Subject: AKADEM. AUSLANDSAMT TUEBINGEN
Reply-To: jbronstad@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:20:56 GMT



INTERNET:  JBRONSTAD@UMASSD.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,soc.culture.australian
From: miw@cc.uq.oz.au (Mark I. Williams)
Subject: Re: German-Australian Dual Citizenship
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:54:29 GMT

huumala@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi writes:

>What would happen if someone was born in Australia, but neither parent was
>Australian?  Would that person receive Australian Citizenship.  For example:
>I am American and my wife is Finnish.  We will be living and working in
>Australia for a while.  Should we have a child there, I know that this child
>would have both Finnish and American citizenships.  But would it have
>Australian citizenship?

I suspect you are in the realms where you can only get a reliable answer
by asking someone whose job it is to know immigration law.

However, my guess is that the child is eligible for Australian
citizenship if one or both of you are permanent residents, and
ineligible if you aren't. 

cheers,


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+61 7 36 54477  (fax) Qld 4072  Australia
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From: alti@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Thorsten Altenkirch)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: re:Annexation
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:55:20 GMT
Organization: LFCS, Edinburgh
In-reply-to: carl.camurca%travel@wugate.wustl.edu's message of 12 Sep 92 07:35:00 GMT

In article <2714.178.uupcb@wugate.wustl.edu> carl.camurca%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Carl Camurca) writes:

   TA>   Could you tell me then, what is left from the achievements (yes, there
   TA>   where some) of the GDR society?

   TA>I see - wasn't this called "But Hitler built the motorways" some time
   TA>ago?

   Now I go on shaky ground. They still were motorways. Germany is
   benefitting from its famous "Autobahn" to this day.
   Would you close them, because they were a Nazi invention? 

Actually, I would close a fair number of them anyway! 

[As an aside : This weekend I was on Ben Lawers (Scotland) and I
looked down on this beautiful land behind Loch Tay and said to my
friend: You know if you have a view like this in Germany you see at
least three motorways.]

	As far as I
   recall, there were not build with blood.

I thought they used PoW and forced labour but I am not sure about
this.

   Moreover, comparing the totalitarian GDR Regime with the Nazis is a bit
   strong, isn't it?

Somehow your reply is beside the point: I wasn't comparing Nazis with
GDR but how people talk about systems that have passed. To me it does
not make sense to pick out one or two features of one system and say:
"Why don't we have this here?". You just can't transfer some of the
mechanisms of East-German society into a western society and hope that
they would still work. I think it just requires a great deal of
naivety to expect the western standard of living + the caring big
brother state as it was in GDR.

I certainly believe that the fall of communism in East Europe is a
good thing and should just have happened much earlier.
Post-revolutionary phases are never easy & it seems that the people in
East-Germany are still much better off than they neighbours in the
east. Still, they seem to be the ones grining loudest, maybe because
they have some scapegoats to accuse for their misfortune.

   Again, there were social achievements. Where are they?

If you need a road t (or what so ever) you should just build it and
you don't have to be a Nazi. To have 'social achievements', e.g. more
possibilities for women to work AND have kids, you should fight for
them anyway. If you say this was better in East-Germany it is just the
same as saying this was better under the Nazis - it is just finding
excuses for a bad system.



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"Germany still proves reluctant to exchange email with other countries 
efficiently" - Summer 1992 Systems Newsletter, Dep. of CS,Edinburgh
From: zxmkr08@mailserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Cornelius Krasel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Krawalle in Rostock
Date: 6 Sep 92 20:56:19 GMT
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG

In <1992Sep4.144049.23278@nntp.nta.no> stoer@hal.nta.no (Stoer Mechthild FNT) writes:

>Speziell las ich mal von Sozialarbeit mit Skinheads,
>die darin bestand, mit ihnen in die Berge zu fahren, 
>Fallschirmspringerkurse zu veranstalten, usw.
>Einige nahmen danach Vernunft an
>und sagten, frueher haetten sie Gewalt nur gesucht, weil da was los war.

Sehr erfolgreich scheint es auch zu sein, wenn man diesen Leuten mal
zeigt, wie so eine Asylantenunterkunft von innen aussieht...

--Cornelius.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: esharp@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Edwin Sharp)
Subject: Summer internships
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: all
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:07:43 GMT

I am an engineering student at Purdue University and am interested in the possibility of a summer internship in Germany.  I can communicate fairly well in 
German and spent the summer of 1991 as an exchange student in Coburg.  I am i
interested in intern positions, any regulations, and possible other sources of 
information.
Thank you
Edwin Sharp
esharp@sage.cc.purdue.edu
   int
From: carl.camurca%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Carl Camurca)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Auslander
Date: 9 Sep 92 10:05:00 GMT
Reply-To: carl.camurca%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Carl Camurca)
Organization: Travel Online, St. Louis, MO

[stuff deleted]

FG>discussion into a debate about asylum politics. As posted in this
FG>newsgroup before, about 12% of the germans would vote right wing parties in
FG>next elections. This is a supprisingly high number and it calls for politica
FG>action of everybody in this country. But even if you'd assume that all of
FG>those people would agree completely whith fascistic ideology you shouldn't
FG>forget the more than 80% of the people who would vote different.

Yeah, and I do not forget the 12% (or even less), that beat me up at
night in the streets.

FG>Greetings,
FG>                Frank.

CU, Carl.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: andrick@sun.rhrk.uni-kl.de (Ulf Andrick [Biologie])
Subject: Re: umlaut
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 18:55:25 GMT

andrick@sun.rhrk.uni-kl.de (Ulf Andrick [Biologie]) writes:
: The Palatinate isn't Bavarian any more! Thus, it appears a
: little strange to qualify Kandel as located in Bavaria,
: especially as it is geographically a little off from Bavaria.
: 
: --
: Ulf R. Andrick                                andrick@rhrk.uni-kl.de
: from Kaiserslautern (aka K'town), the metropole of the Palatinate :-)

I don't know what happened, I thought I had included a copy of
the article I followed-up to. I referred to Richard
Schoenling's mentioning that his ancestors came from Erlenbach
bei Kandel, `Pfalz, Bayern'. Without this context, my posting
appears a little unmotivated. I hope I get the full message
through this time.

--
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Erlenbach, Stadt Kaiserslautern
Organization: Doctoral student, Philosophy, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:13:11 -0400 
From: Oliver Schulte <os22+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Suche Internet/Bitnet in Wien

Hallo an all die Wiener in der Welt:

Ich habe eine Bitte um Hilfe. Ein Freund von mir studiert BWL an der
Wirtschaftsuni in Eurer schoenen Stadt, und Germanistik an der Hauptuni.
Er ist, was wir in Nordamerika einen Undergraduate nennen wuerden, 
steht also vor dem Diplom.

Was fuer Moeglichkeiten gibt es in Wien, Anschluss an das internationale
Computernetz zu erlangen?

Ich bin fuer jegliche Hilfe dankbar,

viele Gruesse (servus),
Oliver

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Logic and Computation Program, Carnegie Mellon University

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may be said that it is supported by the entire structure.

Wittgenstein.
From: dennis.tuchler%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Dennis Tuchler) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: common Polish-German
Date: 7 Sep 92 11:05:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Travel Online, St. Louis, MO
Reply-To: dennis.tuchler%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Dennis Tuchler) 

I am curious about your knowledge of the history of Jews in Poland in
the late 1930s. For example, are you aware of Cardinal Hlond's advice to
Poles not to frequent Jewish shops?  Are you aware of the Colonels'
government's anti-Jewish measures --- especially with respect to
education? Or would you say that all this is just an oddity?  It seems
to me that Poles (I use their distinction between Poles and Jews) were
quite ready to greet anti-Jewish action with a certain equanimity, if
not enthusiasm.

Perhaps things were different in Eastern Poland?  Recall what happened
to returning Jews in Kielce.

By the way, on what do you base your statement that many Jews took it as
insulting to be called Polish?

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: cliff@netcom.com (Cliff Rodriquiez)
Subject: How much will a loaded macIIci go for?
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 05:14:10 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 


My brother in Germany wants to sell his MacIIci in the german market.
He is in Heidelburg.  What kind of price can he get for this machine?
Where should he advertise?  thanks for the help....cliff@netcom.com

MacIIci with the following:
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From: pavlik@apap4.pap.univie.ac.at
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: End of summer time?
Date: 9 Sep 92 09:19:58 GMT
Organization: Vienna University Computer Center

In article <sefBoFD0BwwtF1mUoa@transarc.com>, Craig_Everhart@transarc.com writes:
> When does the local time change from summer time to standard time in Germany?
> 
On the last Sunday in September 3 a.m. summer tinme (2 a.m. standard time).

                     Andreas
                     
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: bine@pebbles.gmd.de (Sabine Hubrig-Schaumburg)
Subject: Re: End of summer time?
Organization: GMD, Sankt Augustin, Germany
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 07:11:35 GMT

Craig_Everhart@transarc.com writes:

>When does the local time change from summer time to standard time in Germany?

>		Thanks,
>		Craig

always at the last sunday of september, that's the 27th this year, 3am := 2am.
ANNA (Sa)bine
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,soc.culture.polish
From: lbs@tkmhp2.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de (Lech Borkowski)
Subject: Re: Germany's Power Play in Europe
Reply-To: lbs@tkm.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de
Organization: Case Western Reserve Univ. Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 21:29:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.165818.4303@compu.com> fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home) writes:
>planius@h112.desy.de (Peter Lanius) writes:
>
>>Nevertheless, your view seems really too simplistic to me and you avoid to
>>refer to the arguments I gave in my last posting. It is not just toppling
>>the wall, the question is what happened after the wall was gone.
>
>{rest of post deleted}
>
>We are way of the subject of the header. My only problem was with the term 
>'annexation'. You claim that 44 years changed people. There is no doubt about 
>that. 444 years would change people even more. So you get rid of the people 
>and re-unite the country anyway. That's was Polish logic. They wound up with a 
					     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 Could you explain the use of this expression? In which dictionary
did you find it?

>Fred

 Lech Borkowski


Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: "ernest blaschke" <ernest.blaschke@canrem.com>
Subject: rain relief fund
Reply-To: "ernest blaschke" <ernest.blaschke@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 12 Sep 92 20:18:13 EST

SWH=>   Newsgroup: soc.culture.german
In message <8250@dirac.physics.purdue.edu> stephen hill writes:
SWH=>     Subject: Rain Relief Fund

SWH=>      I have a question.  Why is it that Oktoberfest is celebrated in
SWH=> September some places?
SWH=> ---

I too have a question: Why is it that the above message comes under
the subject matter of rain relief fund?

Ernest.Blaschke@canrem.com     Toronto,Canada.


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From: anson@akb.in-berlin.de (Andreas Bewersdorff)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Organization: private site in Berlin
Subject: Re: Violence report: 9.9.92
Reply-To: anson@akb.in-berlin.de
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:14:00 MES

Hallo !

In <MQU6BGW@math.fu-berlin.de>, Debora Weber-Wulff writes:
 () [ list of crimes and bombs deleted ]

Besides all those incidents and attacks, there was one other attack, but
I only heard of this once in local TV : There were some rooms in Berlin which
served as a meeting point for young people, to get them off the streets and
to give them alternatives to 'standing around'. Something was said about
"being successfull in 'getting in contact with these youths'". Probably
because many of those using that place belong to the 'right scene', some
unknown people have completely burnt down this meeting place by pouring
fuel(?) into the rooms and throwing a firebomb. Because there is no money
to rebuild the meetingplace or to build a new one, all the youths who just
had started to be 'on the road' less often and maybe even to be a bit less
violent now will be back to the right groups again (I could imagine that
they now will be more 'active' than before) ...

I don't want to justify ANY side. Violence on either side has only bad
consequences for ALL. I only wanted to say that there is not only violence
against foreigners, and that at least a part of the violence should be
looked at in the same way, you look at hooligans, that is : They use violence
against 'easy targets', no matter whether they are foreigners or not.

 () In other news: ...
 () Hamburg parents protest living containers for refugees on school property -
 () cite the danger to their children;

I saw a report on this in TV and one mother and someone else explained that
they were not opposed to the foreigners in general, but only opposed to putting
the containers on the school yard. There is some field in the vicinity and
this field will be prepared for a housing area where these containers may be
put. The government (Senat or who else) had decided that the containers had
to be put on the school yard without informing the school or the parents in
advance. One problem might be the foreigners living on the school yard and
using toilets and washing rooms in the school, thus mixing all day with the
school children. But the bigger problem is that it will be impossible to tell
who is allowed to be there (the foreigners) and who is not allowed to be on
school territory (some strangers, not only foreigners, but Germans as well).
They are opposed to neither containers nor foreigners in the vicinity, but
only to *strangers* (!= foreigners) *IN* the school.

These infos sound quite different from the 1.5 line news flash about some
'school property' and some unspecified 'danger', don't they ?

                                                      mfG Andreas


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