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From: grape@suned1.nswses.navy.mil (Mike Grapevine)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: Executing GNU-C compiled Desqview/X applications
Keywords: GNU-C, DJGPP, Desqview/X
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:28:13 GMT
Organization: US Navy (NSWSES)

Hello,
    I compile and try to execute X-Window based
applications using gnu-C distributed by djgpp while
using Desqview/X under MSDOS. When I try to execute
the applications, such as xfishtank, I get:

Segmentation violation in pointer 0x00000000 at 40:e0a0
Exception 14 at eip=e0a0

    Anybody know what's wrong here. I use aout2exe
to convert executables from an a.out format to an
exe format.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: abooth@ERA.COM (Alan Booth)
Subject: DV/X DESQview API toolkit.
Organization: Engineering Research Associates, Vienna, VA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 19:47:10 GMT

	I have a friend who developed and sells a DESQview specific
application.  His customers have begun to ask about GUI's.  Does Quarterdeck
have any plans to offer a DV/X DESQview API toolkit to develop applications
to run under the DV/X window manager.  This would allow developers to upgrade 
their DESQview applications without the expense of developing with Motif
or Open Look, and their customers having the added expense of purchasing the
appropriate window manager.

	I know that the Motif and Open Look applications will run under the
DV/X window manager.  However, using the widgets that were developed to create
the  Application manager, File manager applications, etc. would keep the look
and feel consistent.

	Just wanted to know if they will ever be available to the public.

Thanks


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From: Sammy@btnbbs.UUCP (Sammy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: Re: Qemm(ems)&dv.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 21:10:06 +06
Organization: btnbbs - Stow, Ohio  (216)688-3894


>Both my bios and dos5's mem.exe report 1280k of "contiguous" extended >memory, but when I load QEMM, that number drops to 
>about 800k. I loaded EMS40.SYS from Pc magazine, and 
>managed to get the entire 1280k of EMS. But, desqview 
>wouldn't run.  Do I need a new version of DV?  I have 
>dv 2.32 and qemm 5.12.

 GR> This is perfectly normal.  In your example you are 
 GR> missing 480k.  You are 
 GR> also creating high RAM to the tune of ~384k.  QEMM 
 GR> also has some overhead of
 GR> its own that comes out of extended memory.  If you 
 GR> want a precise breakdown
 GR> of what memory is going where, check out MFT's QEMM/Memory section.

Well, I checked it out.  My MFT listed handles 0-5...

0 576k  ?????  (No owner)
1 64k   HMA
2 96k   EMS1  (My Ramdrive)
3 720k  EMS2  (Disk Cache)
4 96k   4DOS:000 (Primary 4dos shell)
5 32k   4DOS:001 (Secondary 4dos shell)

This adds up to about 1500k!  I tried using PC mag's EMS40.SYS, and got all my missing ram, but DV wouldn't load when it was running, so I gave up.  It's really less of a problem now, My disk cache is taking up enough I can go back to himem.sys and emm386.exe w/ NORAM parameter.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: ronis@onsager (David Ronis)
Subject: Creating Fonts under DV/X
Organization: McGill University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:07:07 GMT

I want to run an remote application on a sparc which will display on my PC running DV/X.  The client complains
about not finding a specialized font.  Sure enough, I don't have it on my machine, but I found it in several
flavors on the client's machine (as a .bdf and a .snf) file.  I tried several things to get the
font installed on my machine, all without success:

1.  I binary ftp'd the .snf file to \dvx\servers\fonts\misc and reran mkfntdir in that directory.
2.  I got and compiled a copy of bdftops and made a PostScript file with the extension .afm.  I then
    tried to add the font with the font manager.  The font manager didn't even recognize the file, even
    though it looks like standard PostScript.
3.  I suspect that I need the utility bdftosnf; unfortunately, when I got the source, several of the 
    include files were missing. (or have been renamed).  Even if I get this to create a local .snf file, 
    how do I go about installing it?


Thanks in advance.

David Ronis
From: mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us (mike batchelor)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: Re: HyperDisk users?
Date: 19 Nov 92 13:23:07 GMT
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

fordke@infonode.ingr.com (Keith Ford) writes:
>
> 
> Someone said the HyperDisk 4.32 consumes less memory than SMARTDRV.
> Therefore, I've acquired the ShareWare version to experiment.  I am
> curious what command line options people have used and why.  My system
> is a 386SX-16 with 4Megs.  I run QEMM with Stealth and have a 2Meg
> cache using SMARTDRV.  All comments welcome.

DEVICE=c:\qemmx\loadhi.sys /r:1 c:\hyperdkx.exe c:1024 w xb:9 f:- eh:0:1

c:1024 sets up a 1024k cache, w tells it to do write-through caching,
versus staged writes, xb:9 sets the advanced disk update feature to a
1/2 second delay, but Stealth disables this, f:- turns off floppy
caching, and eh:0:1 tells it to cache the two physical hard disks,
rather than the DOS devices Stacker sets up.

It uses 22K, versus 30K taken by smartdrv.  The driver size increases
with the cache size.  c:2048 will be about 25K.

The only one there that needs explanation is w.  I just don't trust
staged writes, so I have it cache reads only.



[] ---
[] Mike Batchelor <> Long Beach, California
[] mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us <or> mikebat@qdeck.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: fauerbac@ivy.cs.unca.edu (John Fauerbach)
Subject: Re: PC-Xview vs DesqView/X
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:27:28 GMT

calb@edsi.plexus.COM (Calvin Bolwerk) writes:
: 
: I was wondering if someone could tell me what the differences are 
: between these 2 programs?  Are they similar in features?  At the 
: place that I work we are using PC-Xview for DOS.  I would like to 
: see Desqview/X used instead but want to make sure that I don't 
: lose any functionality.  We are using an RS/6000 running IBM AIX.  
: We use this mainly for running Procadam.  I would like to be able 
: to switch between an X session and local programs that are running 
: under DOS.  Currently I can't do this with PC-Xview.
: 
: Any help would be appreciated!
We have both.  PC-Xview requires less memory, like 4MB, while Desqview/X needs
8 MB to work good.  Everthing that runs on PC-Xview, works on Dewqview/X.  You
can jump from PC-Xview to DOS, but you have to exit your DOS program to get
back to PC-Xview, I think.  It has been a few months since I used PC-Xview.


Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: garyrich@qdeck.com (Gary Rich)
Subject: Re: DV, Novell Net and Messages  (e.g. send...)
Cc: sngoetze@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica CA
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 00:40:30 GMT
Keywords: Novell, Mail, DV, missing keystrokes

In article <BxKJBA.2yn@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> sngoetze@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Sebastian Goetze) writes:
>We use DVC 4.24 and Novell Netware 3.11 (numbers from memory...) at work
>and if you do too, then perhaps you know this feeling:
>
>Somebody sends a broadcast 'Let's get to lunch', or you get some email
>and nothing goes anymore because that little message that's supposed to
>be down there at the bottom of your screen arrived in another window,
>probably hidden (running in the background, like my Norton Commander 
>usually) yet waiting for an acknowledging Ctrl-Enter.
>
>----> Is anything out there, that catches SENDs like that ??
>----> Opens a nice iconlike window or something ??
>
>
>Sebastian

The program you are looking for is called NWCAST (AKA DVCAST) and is availa
lable most of the usual places (simtel mirrors)  or you can send a message 
to support@qdeck.com and we'll send you a copy

Gary Rich	<support@qdeck.com>

Organization: Masters student, Philosophy, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:47:13 -0500 
From: Trevor Tompkins <tt17+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Will  there support for OS/2?


The Title says it all.  I run OS/2 yet am on internet using unix with
Xwindows quite often.  My uderstanding is that  DeqviewX will be
performing some memory tricks in order to keep it working right.  If
this is so I can't use it on OS/2 since OS/2 needs control of the
memory.  Therefore my question about whether or not desqviewX will, in
the future, run under OS/2.  It seems it would be quite an advantage to
the program if it did (i.e. much faster).

If there will be no support, what is the best setup in order to run DV/X
alongside OS/2?

Thanks for your courteous reply.


--Trevor
______________________________
Dept. Logic and Computation
Carnegie Mellon University
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: vla@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Louis Verhagen)
Subject: Re: Advantages
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Distribution: world               
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 02:54:08 GMT

mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us (mike batchelor) writes:

>You do not need a license to own or operate it.

You mean you can just copy it??????????

Greetings :->

Louis

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: harrisp@wl.aecl.ca
Subject: DVX and PATHWORKS Compatability?
Organization: AECL RESEARCH
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:59:15 GMT

At our site, we use the PATHWORKS suite of products from Digital Equipment
of Canada to integrate personal computers into our network environment
(which is primarily a cluster of VAX's). In addition, we do have some Unix
boxes (Suns, Silicon Graphics etc).

IS DESQVIEW/X COMPATIBLE WITH THE PATHWORKS NETWORKS AND THE SOFTWARE
SUPPORT PROVIDED BY PCSA?

A PC on our network has access to a number of software packages such as
lotus123, dBASE etc. If I was running DV/X, (and on the network) will I
still be able to access this software?

Sorry I can't provide more details about the network, but this really isn't
my kettle of fish. Any help and info will be greatly appreciated.
                                Thanks in Advance
                                        Phil
From: HCHA8904593X@LUST.LATROBE.EDU.AU (PERRETT, ANDREW)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: Desqview and PC-Tools (7.1)
Date: 16 Nov 92 00:40:31 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

Im having a bit of a discussion about pc-tools (7.1) running under
Desqview.
 
I was told that during installation it mentioned something about
changing config.sys so that the line stacks=0,0 wasnt present
is this the case ? Why do you need to allocate stacks ?
 
I heard somewhere that you shouldnt use /WRITE=ON while running desqview
is this the case ?
 
Also everytime i try to open a window it beeps and asks me to use change
a program to add more system memory (this is with datamon protecting
.exe .com .ovl files, pc-cache loaded, dv 2.4 qemm 6.02)
 
Is there an internet address for Central Point support ?
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: harrisp@wl.aecl.ca
Subject: DVX vs. HCL Exceed
Organization: AECL RESEARCH
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:16:57 GMT


Our company pushes HCL eXceed as the software of choice for interfacing
between PC's and systems run X-windows software. What are the advantages
and disadvantages of using DV/X versus HCL eXceed? Has anyone out there
done a thorough comparison? In specific, our companies internal review
suggests:

"Quarterdeck's DESQview/X provides an economic solution for X11 window
emulation on personal computers. Unfortunately, this software does not
support MS-window and DECNET/LAT, and does not support properly any other
graphics mode except VGA 640x480, hence we did not evaluate this product."

Is this true? Surely DV/X must do some things that HCL eXceed doesn't, or
what is the big deal about DV/X?

Sorry if some of these questions show off my ignorance too clearly! However,
I've always thought quite highly of Quarterdeck products, I've got DV/X
on order, and figure I should get some info to defend myself should someone
ask why I purchased it rather than the "recommended" product.
                        Thanks in advance
                                Phil
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: ppan@nobeltech.se (Per Andersson)
Subject: Quarterdeck BBS files on Internet ?
Organization: NobelTech AB
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 09:32:44 GMT

Hi!

Does anybody know if the files from the BBS is available on the
Internet somewhere ? Not the files that are also on SIMTEL etc. but
the new/patched WINX etc. I was recommended the support BBS in Irland,
but the BBS upsets my xterm-screen, and it doesn't have kermit.

/Per

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: garyrich@qdeck.com (Gary Rich)
Subject: Re: 8514 video
Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica CA
Distribution: comp.os.msdos.desqview,local
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:32:31 GMT

In article <168A0A37E.DIXONW@arizvm1.ccit.arizona.edu> DIXONW@arizvm1.ccit.arizona.edu (Bill Dixon) writes:
>    Does an 8514/A compatible video card (e.g. the frequently mentioned
>ATI Ultra and its variants) also require an 8514 compatible monitor?
>If not, are there advantages with an 8514 monitor?
>- - - -

As long as the monitor supports 1024x768x256 colors, it is "8514 compatible"
One that runs this mode non-interlaced is best.  IBM makes (made?) an 8514/m
 (m being for monitor) that was hardwired for this mode, but any decent analog
monitor will support.

Gary Rich		<support@qdeck.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: tamada@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael K. Tamada)
Subject: re:  Floppy Drive Problem
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA.  USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 05:18:07 GMT


In article <1992Nov17.203203.8613@qdeck.com>, garyrich@qdeck.com (Gary Rich)
writes: 

>In article <6949@dove.nist.gov> livigni@bldrdoc.gov 
>(David livigni 303-497-5898) writes:

   [...stuff about system hanging when accessing an empty floppy drive]

>>The best suggestion I
>>heard was that DV was running out of SYSTEM memory (specified with Desqview
>>Setup) when it tried to open the little window with the Abort Retry Fail
>>options.  This bug was very inconsistant, and I can't get it to do it again
>>now...
>
>This showed up on a few machines with a certain revision of DV 2.4x.  It was
>very inconsistent but seems fixed in 2.42.

     Well I have DV 2.42, and my window, and sometimes my whole machine,
freezes up when the floppy drive is empty and that Abort Retry Fail window 
appears. 
    However this is not a big deal.  Solution:  I refrain from trying
to access empty floppy drives.  1/2 :-)

--Mike Tamada
  Occidental College
  tamada@oxy.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: garyrich@qdeck.com (Gary Rich)
Subject: Re: Creating Fonts under DV/X
Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica CA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:00:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.180707.26396@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> ronis@onsager (David Ronis) writes:
>I want to run an remote application on a sparc which will display on my PC running DV/X.  The client complains
>about not finding a specialized font.  Sure enough, I don't have it on my machine, but I found it in several
>flavors on the client's machine (as a .bdf and a .snf) file.  I tried several things to get the
>font installed on my machine, all without success:
>
>1.  I binary ftp'd the .snf file to \dvx\servers\fonts\misc and reran 
> mkfntdir in that directory.


Close but not quite.  FTP the .bdf font file over to the DVX machine

>2.  I got and compiled a copy of bdftops and made a PostScript file with the 
> extension .afm.  I then
>    tried to add the font with the font manager.  The font manager didn't even recognize the file, even
>    though it looks like standard PostScript.

An interesting idea, but way over kill even if it worked.

>3.  I suspect that I need the utility bdftosnf; unfortunately, when I got the source, several of the 
>    include files were missing. (or have been renamed).  Even if I get this to create a local .snf file, 
>    how do I go about installing it?


If you don't have the DVX BDFTOSNF.EXE, send mail to support@qdeck.com and
we'll mail you a copy.

Here's what you do:

1:	FTP myfont.bdf over to the DVX box.

2:	BDFTOSNF myfont.bdf > myfont.snf (> not needed with latest rev of 
                                          bdftosnf)

3:	move the snf font to \dvx\server\fonts\misc

4:	run mkfontdir

5:	restart DVX

and VOILA!

Gary Rich		<support@qdeck.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: chris@athena.mit.edu (Chris Murphy)
Subject: Re: Street prices for DesqView/X
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:52:30 GMT

I went to one of the local Egghead stores yesterday, and they did have
DV/X on the shelf for $190, but it was without the TCP/IP network
manager, which they would order for $200.  So where were people seeing
both packages for $190?

Christopher Murphy, N1HQL   |    
MIT Network Services        |
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From: dansmith@Autodesk.COM (Daniel Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: Diamond Stealth, what mode?
Date: 21 Nov 92 08:22:03 GMT
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA


	Any special tricks with getting a 256 color high-res mode
out of this card?  I'm a brand new DV/X user (but a long time Unix/X11 one).
I'm looking at the FAQ from October 1, 1992, and don't see any
mention of this card.

				Daniel
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From: pray@cs.utexas.edu (Patrick Ray)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: Re: Street prices for DesqView/X
Date: 20 Nov 1992 00:40:58 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: peaches.cs.utexas.edu

I just ordered what I the salesperson insisted was Desqview/X from 
Programmer's Paradise for $99.

Pat

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: aml@world.std.com (Andrew M Langmead)
Subject: Re: Startup scripts W/O "learn"
Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:28:07 GMT

bergman@panix.com (Mark Bergman) writes:

>I'm using DV386, and I've got a start-up script that I
>created with the learn function. I'm really getting tired of
>hitting the assigned "learn" key twice to make it appear. Is
>there any way to assign a control character or NULL to the
>learn key, or to turn off the learn function entirely (and
>save the memory), and still have the start-up macro execute?

>Between writing C code and using all the wildcards available
>under the MKS Kornshell, there aren't any keys that I don't
>use.
You can use the PC's Alt-and-numbers-on-keypad method to put any 
extended ASCII value into the learn quote char field. (For those 
that aren't aware of this trick, hold down an ALT key, and press one, 
two or three digits on the numeric keypad, then release the ALT key. 
The character corresponding to the ASCII value typed on the keypad 
will be passed to the program.) With this method one can put any 
value 0-255 (I think, I tried {255}, I didn't try {0} yet.) 
By the way,  that is the way Quarterdeck's products denote ASCII 255, 
and ASCII 0. The API documentation, the panel design tool, and 
DESQview, all show non printable characters between curly braces,
sometimes giving descriptive names ({Space}, {Esc}, {Alt-F10}, etc.)
instead of digits.

The same method can be used for keys to assign startup macros to. 
Startup macros (macros starting with a "!" in the name that will 
start every time a window is launched.) Still need a key associated
with them, but should be a key that is needed elsewhere, nor a key
that might be typed by accident. Instead of trying to find control/
alt/function key combinations that aren't used by an application, 
values like {255} can be used. 

Non-standard ASCII values can also be used as "library" macros. 
If the macro assigned to F10 and the macro assigned to F12 start by 
doing the same thing, but then end differenltly, the identical part
can be put in a macro with a key like {255} and the F10 and F12 macros
can both call the {255} macro. (Example: In a database program, if
F10 is set to sort by name, F12 is set to sort by ZIP code, the {255}
macro can bring the database into the "sort by which field" mode, 
waiting for the user to type the field name. The F10 macro would then
just be {255}lastname{Enter}.)

>----
>Mark Bergman
>718-855-9148

>bergman@panix.com
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: fleggett@vicstoy.UUCP (Fred Leggett)
Subject: Re: Game problems with Desqview
Organization: vicstoy: Public Access Unix, Orlando, FL
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:03:51 GMT

In article <6949@dove.nist.gov> livigni@bldrdoc.gov (David livigni 303-497-5898) writes:
>
>My conclusion - forget anything but the simplest games in Desqview.  Sim
     FWIW, I, too, am having difficulties utilizing graphics programs
alongside text-based ones.  For example, when displaying *any* GIF with
either VPIC or SVGA, upon switching away and back again, the picture is
no longer completely resolved.  I can see *some* of it, but only a
marginal amount.  Nova 9's static displays are also a problem.
     The commonality seems to be with unchanging displays
(although, admittedly, I haven't tested this out to any great degree).
That portion of the screen dedicated to animation in Nova 9 is fine
(the outside landscape, mostly).  The rest is just awful.

>The graphics screen rolling problem may be mouse related since I have heard
>of many mouse related problems, and it seems to occur only in programs
>that use the mouse.
     Both VPIC and Nova 9 have mouse *support*, but I don't use it
(dunno about SVGA).  I don't even have a mouse driver loaded.

>suited for a server of sorts, just too much overhead for the desktop if your
>not using any of the network stuff, and it lacks several niceties of DV like
>swapping and the ability to toggle background processing on and off.  Why no
>upgrade of text mode DV Classic?  Was it abandoned for DVX?
     I tend to agree.  I suppose the content shift to DVX in this 'group
is some sort of natural progression, but...

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: pkruse@db (Phil Kruse)
Subject: netrek binaries
Organization: Novell, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:03:11 GMT

Has anyone compiled blessed binaries for netrek/Xtrek to dvx?

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview