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From: "John Horzepa" <rdemo37@psilink.com>
Subject: Re: springfield is in .....
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:06:39 GMT
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>Now I'm not going to argue that it is actually in a Canadian province, as
>there have been many references to the contrary of this.  However, to
>emphasize that Springfield is a "generic-could-be-anywhere" town, I'd point
>out that it *could* be here in Ontario because of the following:
>
>1)  It is near highway 401 (pronounced four-oh-one; just as anyone in
>    Ontario near the four-oh-one pronounces it)
>
>2)  The local nuclear plant is a dead giveaway.  Ontario Hydro is one of
>    the world leaders in nuclear generated electricity.  (OK, OK, O.H. is
>    a *public* utility while Burns' empire is not!)

There is a very strong argument against Springfield being in Canada.  
Last season, Lisa entered an essay contest on Why America is Great or 
something like that and won a free trip to Washington DC.  In 
Washington, Lisa was heartbroken to discover that her representative was 
taking money under the table to destroy Springfield forest land.  The 
last time I checked, Canada does not have any members in the House of 
Representatives or the Senate.  I will admit there are many Canadian 
references, but I think this just indicates that Springfield is in a 
northern state.  Also, there are not too many hockey references.

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From: rcarter@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ron Carter)
Subject: Re: `Lisa the Beauty Queen' - 9f02 - True story of wrath o' Disney
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 06:02:06 GMT

Those of you that think that Disney would never go after a school
carnival, a true story...

An artist acquaintance of mine collected Disneyania, great collection.
On his business cards, he had `I collect Disney...' and a small line
drawing of the Mouse himself...

He eventually got a letter from the Disney lawyers telling him to get
rid of the Mouse -or else-...  Needless to say, this framed letter has
become the centerpiece of his collection.

And a few years back, Disney went after a pre-school that had large
paintings of the Mouse and Pals on their walls; -or else- was the
promise...  Ended up with Hanna-Barbera painting some of -their-
characters (Huckleberry Hound, The Jetsons, etc) on the walls.

Ron `Copyright expired...' Carter

--
Ron Carter \ Director \ Center for the Study of Creative Intelligence
 CSCI \ Denver, CO USA \ "A ... mind stretched by a new idea can never
  rcarter@nyx.cs.du.edu \ go back to its original dimensions."  -Holmes
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From: dascoser@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (david serchay)
Subject: Re: Borg School (was Ayn Rand School)
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:03:10 GMT

jwlr@escher.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer) writes:

> fjs@vulcan.ksu.ksu.edu (Frank J Sereno) writes:
> 
> >In article <1992Oct7.155742.19583@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, jwlr@escher.cc.
> >>>>>One of the quotes on the wall was something like "Help is futile."  Is t
> >>>>>perhaps a slogan from Rand's "The Virtue of Selfishness"? 
> >>
> >>>I think this was a reference to the Borg, from Star Trek: The Next Generat
> >>
> >>No. That would be "Help is irrelevant."
> >>
> >>>:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-
> 
> >No, no, no....I believe you are all wrong.  In reference to the Borg quote, 
> >the correct one from Star Trek: The Next Generation is, "Resistance is futil
> 
> Yes, I know.
> "Free will is irrelevant."
> "Human spirit is irrelevant."
> "Culture is irrelevant."
> "Resistance is futile."
> "You will be assimilated."
> 
> Now, let's get back to OFF!
> 
> 			James Willer
> {the opinions above are probably NOT those of
>  anyone at all}

And to quote the "Borger King" shirt I got at a con, 
Special Orders are Futile!  You Will Have it _Our_ Way

Dascoser

"Will this bewitching floosie
Seduce this humble newsie?
Oh, what's a paperboy to ......
doooooooooooooooooooo"
               - Apu, "Oh, Streetcar"
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From: rcarter@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ron Carter)
Subject: Re: `Lisa the Beauty Queen' - 9f02 - True story of wrath o' Disney
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 92 02:37:28 GMT

In article <8@bbx.basis.com> scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker) writes:

>rcarter@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ron Carter) writes:
>>And a few years back, Disney went after a pre-school that had large
>>paintings of the Mouse and Pals on their walls; -or else- was the
>>promise...

>The problem is - if they don't enforce their copyrights/trademarks then
>they seriously jeapordize their future ability to file suit against
>more serious infringers.  True, they didn't handle the situation very
>well (especially from a PR point of view).  However, they couldn't
>just ignore it.

True enough Scott, but all the Disney folks had to do was to march
down with a contract that gives that -one- daycare permission for
that -one- building to have the illustrations stand... Or better
yet, -just- insist they put a Copyright Disney notice on the walls.

It wasn't as if they were making mugs etc. with the images...

The point being (which OFF makes, since they rarely prosecute the
OFF knockoffs) is that you don't have to be so Draconian about the
enforcement...  Which you (quite rightly) point out...

I have always wondered why Warner Bros doesn't go after the Bugs
Bunny Motel, here in metro Denver?  A real place!  Not for kids!!!

Regards,
--
Ron Carter \ Director \ Center for the Study of Creative Intelligence
 CSCI \ Denver, CO USA \ "A ... mind stretched by a new idea can never
  rcarter@nyx.cs.du.edu \ go back to its original dimensions."  -Holmes
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From: jacobw@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jacob Solomon Weinstein)
Subject: Re: Couch & Chalkboard (was Re: [9F01] Homer the Heretic)
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:30:12 GMT

>In article <4oeDsB1w165w@sys6626.bison.mb.ca>, dave@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Dave Hall) writes:
>> DYN: Jimi Hendrix & Benjamin Franklin playing ping-pong (obvious)

Are you sure it was Ben Franklin? I thought it was Mozart, my roommate
agreed with you that it was Ben Franklin, and another friend of mine
thought it was Newton. Anybody with a VCR care to verify that it was
Ben? 


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From: warfield@seas.gwu.edu (Tom Warfield)
Subject: Re: springfield is in .....
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:54:04 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.214512.24345@telesciences.com> msavasti@telesciences.com (Michael Savastio) writes:
> . . .  One sheet
>of paper reveals the following biographical information:
>
>   Homer's birthday      : 5/10/55

AGGH! ! ! Homer is only three years older than me!

  I gotta go on a diet  . . .

Tom Warfield
          GWU: warfield@seas.gwu.edu (News)
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From: madabhus@eng.umd.edu (Rajiv Madabhushi)
Subject: Apu's son(?)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 18:37:18 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Keywords: Name
Originator: madabhus@emc.eng.umd.edu


I think I know the name of the kid Apu takes from behind the counter.  I think his name is
"Jumshed."  I'm not sure about the spelling.

I loved the last part of the show.  The Rev. says "...whether he is Christian, Jew, or...
(looking at Apu) miscellaneous."

Apu:  "Hindu.  There ARE 700 million of us."

Rev:  " Well, that's.....super."


'Killed me!





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From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Subject: Re: Homer the Heretic
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:05:26 GMT

In article <johnh.719080614@ficus.cs.ucla.edu> johnh@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (John Heidemann) writes:
>dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman) writes:
>>I'm surprised no one else has mentioned it, but what about god's prediction of
>>Homer's remaining lifespan? 6 months? Why, that's hardly an entire season! Are
>>we really going to be losing Homer? Say it isn't so!
>
>I'll be that the Simpson's god will have a memory about as good
>as Burns.   Hmmm... what would that be trying to say?

"Does St. Louis still have a team?"

	"No they moved to Phoenix."

"Oh, right."

But then, even God would forget about the Cards.

--
"Moors."  "Moops."  "Moors."  "Moops."  Psssssssssssss.....
From: bw462@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bucky Whaley)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: `Homer the Heretic'--Apu's Son?!?.
Date: 9 Oct 1992 20:00:18 GMT
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In a previous article, fjs@nighthawk.ksu.ksu.edu (Frank J Sereno) says from
the place where "the men are men, and the sheep are scared":

>>Did anybody catch the name of (presumably) Apu's kid?
>>
>>-- 
>>Bucky Whaley                          It's funny because it's true.
>>bw462@cleveland.freenet.edu         - Fat Tony, "Bart the Murderer"
>
>If I am not mistaken (most of the time I am, though), I thought he called his
>"son"--Dumbshit??
>
>Could this be true???

Well, I thought it sounded like "Jumpshit," but I think the variations on
"Jumshed/Jumshid" being offered here are more likely.  And I suppose the
kid isn't necessarily Apu's son, but just another relative who sometimes
works in the store?


 -Bucky "Get out and come back!" Whaley

-- 
Bucky Whaley                          It's funny because it's true.
bw462@cleveland.freenet.edu         - Fat Tony, "Bart the Murderer"
From: jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Pornography in Simpsons?
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:05:19 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

yurick@vaxr.llnl.gov writes:

>> Simpson's cat is sitting next to Homer LICKING HERSELF.  

>I don't know if you can call this pornographic, but as any cat-owner can tell
>you...it is normal behavior for a feline!   
>Tacky...maybe, pornographic...doubtful. 

Agreed. Now if the cat was licking *Homer* or *Homer* was licking
the cat....

			James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
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From: cal@ee.ryerson.ca (Calvin Henry-Cotnam)
Subject: Re: [9F01] Homer the Heretic
Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute, Toronto
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:48:01 GMT

abw@natchez.bu.edu (Al Wesolowsky) writes:
>Gee, I thought the last in the list was Lisa'a teacher, not Milhouse's
>mom. But maybe M's M == L's T?

Funny.  At a first glance, this is what I thought.  But looking at the
tape again, it was definately Milhouse's mother.

I had a few other DYN's that didn't seem to get out over the net
(we've been having some problems over the past two weeks):


- the singing in underwear alone scene from "Risky Business"
  (this has been mentioned, but it should be noted that Homer
  didn't sing Bob Seger's "Ol Time Rock & Roll")

- the reference to the opening of "Mission Impossible" when the cigar
  set fire to the magazine and house.  The trail of the flame plus the
  high pitch music had me anticipating the beat of the Mission
  Impossible theme, but it never came.

- Homer found a *1991* penny.  Any significance?  Probably not,
  just me being a little too sensitive to details.

- The insurance adjuster from "Total Disaster Insurance".

- Religious holiday: the Feast of Maximum Occupancy.

- God had to leave in order to appear in a tortilla in Mexico.


In all, a pretty good episode.  The one scene that had me in stitches
was where Flanders threw out the mattress then prayed that Homer would
be "guided" to it.  I immediately said, "He won't", but to my surprise
he landed on it but bounced through the first floor window.  This had
me rolling in laughter and remembering the scene with Homer on Bart's
skateboard flying over the gorge.



Calvin Henry-Cotnam, CATE            |    MY CANADA INCLUDES CANADIANS!
Ryerson Polytechnical Institute      | I would really like this to include
Toronto, Ontario, Canada             | Quebec - but I won't hold my breath.
From: SOWHALEY@ecuvm.cis.ecu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: [9F01] Homer the Heretic
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:10:10 GMT
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway

Someone (sorry, forget who) had a question about what the sign with
Blinky on it said.  It read, "Springfield Harbor."

DYN:
-Homer's coffee mug had a picture of Hook on it (that's what it looked
 like to me, anyway...)
-Bart swaying with his hands in the air as he urged Homer to "Testify!"
 about why he wasn't going to church any more
-Homer as St. Francis had a toothbrush in the pocket of his monk's robe
-The arcade games in Apu's store were "Great White Hunter" and "Nuke"
-Kent Brockman had smut on his face when he was reporting the fire

I liked how "Flay Me to the Moon" set us up for the rocket to blast off,
yanking Scratchy to be splattered on the moon's surface, but instead the
moon was yanked to Scratchy.

BTW, there was a definite tongue motif :-9 in this episode.  In addition
to Scratchy's bungee-tongue, we saw Maggie's tongue frozen to her car
seat (ouch) and I believe there were licking scenes featuring both
Snowball II and Santa's Little Helper.

I liked this episode as a whole, but I guess many of my favorite moments
centered on the animals (who seemed to be around more than usual):  SLH's
rescue of the Hershey bar and Snowball II hanging out on the couch with
Homer, getting scritched by God, and being saved by Fireman Krusty.

And since I haven't seen anyone else mention it, I loved the way the
kids used The Reverend Lovejoy's fire-n-brimstone sermon as a guided
visualization to keep warm in the freezing sanctuary.

 -Bucky "Testify!" Whaley

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From: bw462@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bucky Whaley)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Tracey litigates
Date: 17 Oct 1992 03:48:40 GMT
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In a previous article, flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) says:
>bw462@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bucky Whaley) writes:
>>Maybe MG could countersue.  I only began watching Tracey Ullman in
>>reruns on Lifetime *because* I wanted to see the Simpsons shorts.
>
>Now, there's no way you can sue someone over the fact that you've inadvertently
>helped their sales!  That's not their fault!  Copyright suits are based on the
>idea that you have some ownership of the ideas and you're not getting paid
>properly.  They're not just any time you think someone else is profiting from
>what you've done.


Hokay.  (I really was just joking anyway...)


 -Bucky "Heel Toe Heel Toe Heel Toe" Whaley

-- 
bw462@cleveland.freenet.edu      Hey, look at me!  I'm Blanche Dubois!
     Mmm... lutefisk!              - Bart, "A Streetcar Named Marge"
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From: wagenfuh@huey.udel.edu (Karl Wagenfuehr)
Subject: Re: Name tally for titles
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 02:47:22 GMT

In article <Bvru4I.A93@news.cso.uiuc.edu> sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter) writes:
>pi@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Raymond L. Gilbert) writes:
>>In article <6OCT92.20224912@umbc2.umbc.edu> noel@umbc2.umbc.edu writes:
>>>Going by the last writer/director list, here is the lastest tally on names:
>>>Flanders, Moe, Burns, Sideshow Bob, Otto, Jacques:  1
>>Didn't SSBob have not 1 but 2 shows named after him?
>
>Nope.  The first Sideshow Bob episode was called "Krusty Gets Busted."
>
And didn't the second one get renamed to "Black Widower"?  Brings the
Sideshow Bob count down to 0...
-- 
                    ' ",      *
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                          '
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Date: Wed,  7 Oct 1992 18:12:10 -0400 
From: Eric Thomas Pronko <punisher+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Maggie fans unite!!
	<1992Oct5.155853.19476@col.hp.com>

...one of the best for maggie fans is the second one with danny devito
as homer's brother ("brother can you spare two dimes?") and the
translator ha maggie as saying great things like "...I have soiled
myself.  How embarassing..."

gotta love it

eric


*****************************************************
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check is in the mail.  Groove is in the heart.
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ep1d+@andrew.cmu.edu       |   blah blah blah
punisher+@cmu.edu          |   blah blah blah"  -me
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From: fjs@nighthawk.ksu.ksu.edu (Frank J Sereno)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: `Homer the Heretic'--Apu's Son?!?.
Date: 9 Oct 1992 14:40:53 -0500
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>
>
.  
>
>
>Did anybody catch the name of (presumably) Apu's kid?
>
>-- 
>Bucky Whaley                          It's funny because it's true.
>bw462@cleveland.freenet.edu         - Fat Tony, "Bart the Murderer"


If I am not mistaken (most of the time I am, though), I thought he called his
"son"--Dumbshit??

Could this be true???

Frank Sereno
Kansas State University

"Where the men are men, and the sheep are scared!"
From: syracurg@lp.musc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: RE: 9F01 - 6 more months
Date: 12 Oct 92 12:28:03 GMT
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     Oh, I get it! Homer is going to have a heart attack accompanied
   by an out-of-body experience werein he experiences what it feels
   like to die.  
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From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Subject: "Homer the Heretic": Possible R&S reference?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:11:10 GMT


     Last season's "Homer at the Bat" elicited a couple of comments from
folks who felt that the scene where Jose Canseco saves various things from
a burning building was reminiscent of the Ren & Stimpy "Fire Dogs" episode.
I didn't (and still don't) view that scene as a R&S reference in any way,
but what about this:

     In Act III of "Homer the Heretic," there's that shot of the fire
truck zooming down the street, as the camera pans from the front of the
back of the truck.  The shot is almost identical to that of the fire truck
rushing through the city in "Fire Dogs."  Not only that--and here's the
clincher--we see Otto in fireman garb holding on to the back of the truck
for dear life, just as Ren is doing in the corresponding scene in "Fire
Dogs."

     Bona fide R&S reference, or overactive imagination?  You decide!



                         --Steve Stelter
                           sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: mwandel@bnr.ca (Markus Wandel)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Animation differences in most recent episode
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:59:52 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada

I for one am dismayed at the animation changes in the most recent
episode of the Simpsons.  The quality doesn't seem to have suffered
but the style is all different.  It's as if the animation had been
done from the same storyboards but the people who do all the views
from funny angles (e.g. behind, from below, over the shoulder)
didn't have a "feel" for the characters.  Ned Flanders looked the
worst mutated, Homer's head didn't seem right, Marge was decidedly
uglier, and Moe looked *awful*.  I suppose I'll get used to it;
I usually do when newspaper comic strips are taken over by a new
artist.  But it's a painful transition and I could hardly concentrate
on the plot in the 9F01 episode because I was constantly irritated
by the mutated characters.

I suppose we're stuck with it but I don't like it.

I even thought a couple of characters *sounded* different (same actor
but different intonation than usual) but I may be paranoid.

Markus Wandel
markus@pinetree.org <-- NOT the origin of this posting
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From: eam@mintaka.mlb.semi.harris.com (Ed A. Mills)
Subject: Re: OFF getting dehumanized and Cynical
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:59:58 GMT
Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne FL

In article <1992Oct6.221429.4593@desire.wright.edu> psantucci@desire.wright.edu writes:
>	Hi folks.
>
>	I really enjoyed "A Streecar named Marge", all the more so because of
>my objectivist AND theatrical background (can anyone else make that claim?) but 
Well, I'm a realist (really), is that like an <objectivist>? What does an
objectivist do - object to things?  Right in character then.

>I found it to be part of a disturbing trend as well. 
>
>	The last three episodes...

Yes, I hadn't considered those changes, but now that you mention them I
agree that those are some (of the many) screwey portions of this episode.
It's sad that many viewers don't have the expert viewpoint that you and
I have. 

Ed
From: jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: PORNO IN SIMPSONS
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:07:08 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

chris.burgess@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Burgess) writes:

>Well, I must say that this strikes me as a STUPID concept to bring up.
>There is NOTHING pornographic about a cat licking its butt. That's what
>cats do. My cat does it all the time, and I find nothing dirty about it,
>as that's how they clean themselves. If you want anything that might
>border on potential pornography, how about the recurring theme of Bart
>taking snapshots of his butt? (Seperate Vocations, Homer's Night Out)

Actually, they may be the *same* picture.
Please, forgive the lad his one butt-shot.

			James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
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