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From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Re: news about the Rio
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 15:12:30 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

>I just saw an announcement that the Rio Hotel & Casino is going to build
>another tower with 430 suites - from what I read they already have zoning
>approval to build the hotel up to a total of 2300 rooms (they currently
>have 424 suites).
>
>Has the Rio got anything going for it gambling-wise ? I've never been inside
>the place. Besides the Brazilian style T&A they show in their ads, what's
>the big attraction ? 
>
>Just curious - does anyone else think Vegas is getting overdeveloped? Maybe
>I've just felt the urge one too many times to mow down tourists with the
>rental car because hordes of them walk all over the middle of the street...
>
>Paul McGinnis / TRADER@cup.portal.com

Over-developed? Heh.. when was the last time you were there? I was just
there for CES and there are three MONSTER hotels going up:
The Luxor, a pyramid of gargantuan proportions, next door to 
 the Excalibur
The (new) MGM Grand at the corner of LasVegas Blvd. and Tropicana
 (in front of the Marina)
Treasure Island, on the Strip, next door to the Mirage. 
I'd betcha that between just these three new monsters they'll add
another 7000 or 8000 rooms. 

The El Rancho has been shut down (dunno for how long). The Stardust
has changed the typeface used in its logo (bummer.. I really liked
the old one) and thus on its Strip sign, Vegas World looks like it
could reeeely use new carpeting (a very grungy looking place),
the LV Convention Center has had a major remodelling job and is
very classy looking now, but those bastards still won't put in any
benches anywhere. The Sands didn't either when they build their 
convention center a year or two ago and it's funny to see all the
sore/tired conventiongoers sitting on the floors because there's
no place else to park your butt for a few minutes' rest. 

...well it's not all THAT funny when you're one of them. 

Harv
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: weinstoc@sei.cmu.edu (Chuck Weinstock)
Subject: Poker Book Order
Organization: The Software Engineering Institute
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 13:12:55 EST


I've had some more requests for ordering poker books, so I thought I'd open up
a new order.  For those of you who are unaware, I've talked to various
publishers and am able to offer a discount on various items to rec.gamblers.
The discounts aren't huge (on the order of 10%) but, hey, you'll have a few
more $'s to bet.  I have to order the poker books in quantity to get the
discount, which is the reason for periodic orders.  The books offered are
those by Sklansky, Malmuth and/or Zee.

This order will be sent to the publisher on January 22.  I'll need your order
and your payment by then.  Please contact me for ordering details.



Chuck Weinstock				weinstock@sei.cmu.edu
Software Engineering Institute		(412) 268-7719
Carnegie Mellon University		(412) 268-5758 (Fax)
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
From: tahajian@aries.East.Sun.COM (David Tahajian - Sun BOS Software)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Foxwoods Email alias group created!
Date: 8 Jan 1993 16:51:27 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Billerica MA
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: tahajian@aries.UUCP ()
NNTP-Posting-Host: aries.east.sun.com

After I posted some recent messages about ratholing & Foxwoods
(the Indian reservation casino in Ledyard, Conn.), a couple of 
rec.gamblers contacted me about going to Foxwoods, getting together, 
etc.

Well, one thing led to another and then we decided to create an 
Email alias group to exchange information about Foxwoods!
This alias can be used for just about any topic; how to get there, 
new game info, special events, carpooling and ride sharing, places
to stay and eat in the area, or just about anything to do with 
Foxwoods! Perhaps we can even plan a Foxwoods BARGE event 
in the near future!

I invite anyone who goes to Foxwoods to join our group.
Just send some Email to:

foxwoods-request@aries.East.Sun.COM

Hopefully, the members of this group will find it informative and
useful. Please be assured that I have no other personal gains of 
doing this other than of providing an place for exchanging 
information about Foxwoods.

Steve Jacobs: Please add this to the FAQ when you have a free moment.

Hope to hear from you soon!

==========================================================================
Dave Tahajian                      | "YOU CALLED ME?!?" - What the AQ high
david.tahajian@east.sun.com        | player said to the winning AK player
Sun Microsystems, Billerica, Ma.   | at my 7-stud table in Foxwoods, CT.
==========================================================================
From: irwin@uvmark.uucp (Frank Irwin)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Re: hold'em trivia
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:41:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvmark.1993Jan04.204125.20545
Organization: VMARK Software, Inc.

In article <1hacr5INNolm@fido.asd.sgi.com> hashimoto@sgi.com (Roy Hashimoto) writes:
>If you want to make a straight in hold'em, what are the best two cards
>to start with?  I was analyzing starting hands and this question came
>up because the numbers I was getting ran counter to my intuition.  In
>fact, I was pretty sure I had found a bug.
>
>I thought that the best hand would be something like 87, giving you
>plenty of room in both directions to fill the straight.  But 65 and T9
>are marginally better, and surprisingly, 54 and JT are better still.
>This last result is what astonished me.  I had to work the combinatorics
>by hand before I believed it.

This makes sense when you realize that you can't have a straight without
having a 5 or a T.  I don't understand, though, why a 65 would be any better
than a 54, and JT better than a T9.

-- 
 ============================================================================
 Frank Irwin                | "I've got 5 tokens.  You've got 5 tokens.
 Vmark Software, Inc.       |  Let's get us a room."
 irwin%uvmark@merk.com      |           -- New pick-up line at the Frontier
From: erwin@bend.ucsd.edu (Sean Erwin)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Re: Tahoe info?
Date: 7 Jan 1993 05:37:32 GMT
Organization: Linguistics Department, UCSD
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: bend.ucsd.edu

In article <1igd54INNln@morrow.stanford.edu> cummins@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mike Cummins) writes:
>I can't find much about Tahoe in the faq or ftp-site.

There's a nice lake there, and skiing will be awesome this year, but it isn't
much for blackjack.
>
>I'm planning on a 3 day weekend in South Tahoe.  Any
>recommendations on good places to stay with good
>blackjack (I'm a beginner counter)?

Everyplace in Lake Tahoe is pretty expensive, but all BJ is double down on
10 or 11 only.  I think you can find a few single decks, but I haven't been
there in a while.
>
>I didn't see anything about non-smoking areas
>at Tahoe in that recent thread, so any info on that
>would be much appreciated also.
>
I'm sure there are some non-smoking tables around.  Did Bill's go all non-
smoking?

>It sounds like Harrah's in Reno has bad bj rules.
>Does that go for S. Tahoe too?
>
Yes.
>Mike

=--->Sean
From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: Major 9
Date: 5 Jan 93 03:28:40 GMT
Organization: Western Washington University

71773.3463@CompuServe.COM (Brian  T. Millin) writes:

#9x21 uses different brass, similar to 9x19 but 2mm longer and stronger 
#throughout. These are high-pressure loads for major as well, but there

	I think that the 9x21 is merely longer, with no change in
case strength.  With more initial case volume, max pressures would 
be slightly lower, but I was also under the impression that OAL was
about the same anyway.

JD
From: CALLISON@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Need Smith&Wesson phone #
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:21:18 GMT


I have acquired a shiny new toy--a Smith&Wesson Model 29-2 stainless
.44Magnum revolver (I'm trying to follow the advice of Our Esteemed 
Moderator (Blessed Be His Name for All Eternity), and I'm buying 'em
all, as the credit limit allows ;-), but I have one slight problem.
This is a used gun (although in excellent condition), and it came sans
manual. As a matter of fact, I got the gun and a receipt when I bought 
it...so I'm looking for S&W's phone number, and a little info on the
revolver.
First question: How old is the thing? It's a Model 29-2, if that's any 
help, serial # 77xxxx (those x's are placeholders, not part of the number;
I'd rather not broadcast the whole thing ;-), with a 5-digit number and
"A21" stamped on the swing-out arm (that holds the cylinder). I'm not
looking for hour-of-day accuracy here, just a ballpark figure.
Second: How much is it worth? I've seen them locally for $300+; mine
was significantly cheaper (being used and on consignment), but I'd
like to know a good value, if I ever need to sell it (God forbid!). 
It's a 4" bbl, beautiful pistol, slightly worn checkering on the grips,
and the stainless shows almost no wear.
Lastly: Who makes good aftermarket sights and/or grips for it? I'm
used to the combat sights and Hogue grips on my SIG. I like the square
butt, but I'm kinda iffy on the stock sights.

Please reply by email to the address below; I'll summarize and post
to the net when my host returns to life...
	callison@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu

Thanks!
				James

James P. Callison	Microcomputer Coordinator	OU Law Library
callison@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu   /\   callison@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu
	constellation!biglaw!callison@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu
DISCLAIMER: I'm not an engineer, but I play one at work...
From: fountain@bach.udel.edu (Eric Randolp Benson)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Value on a gun?
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:27:29 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

Several years ago, my family recieved my grandfather (well, step
grandfather's) pistol, which we believe he was presented with when he got
his first star (~1948-1950).
	
	The gun is a Colt model 1903, hammerless, 380 caliber, stamped 'U.S.
property' with barrel end and some rear slide holster wear, great looking
bore (nice and shiny).  We have one clip for the thing, 7? shots, stamped
.380 ACP on the bottom (I believe the original clip went to someone else
because we ended up with a .32 ACP clip for a while).  We know the owner
was a three star general, although it doesn't have documentation or the
presentation box (it does have a leather belt holster, though).

	What is the pistol worth?  We were debating whether to put
aftermarket sights on it (but if the value is high enough, we'll leave
be).  
	Thanks in advance.  Please send the approximate value to:
Eric Benson
Fountain@brahms.udel.edu

Note:  The gun is _NOT_ for sale.
	[MODERATOR: Shucks!]
 



Xref: sparky rec.guns:18954 talk.politics.guns:25928
From: djf@css.itd.umich.edu (David J. Fred)
Newsgroups: rec.guns,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: New York Times article (4 Jan 93)
Date: 4 Jan 93 23:14:33 GMT
Followup-To: rec.guns
Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services

In article <1i9t4jINN5r4@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> I wrote:

#There's an article on the lower half of page B1 of today's (4 Jan 93)
#New York Times titled "Smart Set's Latest Accessory Is a Real Pistol."
#It discusses gun ownership and purchase by affluent L.A. residents.


I should have made it clear that this was the National Edition of the
New York Times.  Several NYC-area residents have sent messages stating
that the article did not appear in the NY Edition.

-- 
David Fred                      djf@umich.edu
University of Michigan
ITD/CSS UNIX Support            +1 313 998-6264
From: callison@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu (James P. Callison)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: Handloading startup info
Date: 10 Jan 93 17:09:59 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

It's me again...
This is a simple question:{Are the dies interchangeable between
presses? For example, can I use Lee dies in an RCBS press, or will
I run into problems doing this?

Please email responses, and I'll include in my summary.
BTW--the show turned out to be pretty much of a bust, except for
the brass; new, unprimed .44Mag brass was running $11/100 cases, and
factory-primed .44Spl. ran $13/100 cases. Nickel cases were running
about $9/50 cases, but they were selling an RCBS Rock Chucker for $90,
when it can be had locally for ~$75...the prices all seemed way steep
to me (granted, it _was_ my first show...the guys at the store/range
I use locally say that the Tulsa Gun&Knife show is _the_ gun show
to attend).
				James

James P. Callison       Microcomputer Coordinator        OU Law Library 
Callison@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu   /\    Callison@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu
	constellation!biglaw!callison@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu
DISCLAIMER: I'm not an engineer, but I play one at work...
 "...and I thought I wasn't going to get to use the "Liar, Liar,
	Pants on Fire" defense!" --Lt. Kaffey, "A Few Good Men"


Xref: sparky rec.guns:18937 talk.politics.guns:25911
From: djf@css.itd.umich.edu (David J. Fred)
Newsgroups: rec.guns,talk.politics.guns
Subject: New York Times article (4 Jan 93)
Date: 4 Jan 93 18:35:24 GMT
Followup-To: talk.politics.guns
Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services


There's an article on the lower half of page B1 of today's (4 Jan 93)
New York Times titled "Smart Set's Latest Accessory Is a Real Pistol."
It discusses gun ownership and purchase by affluent L.A. residents.

While this isn't *perfectly* within the charter of rec.guns, I thought
most readers would be interested in taking a look at the article.

-- 
David Fred                      djf@umich.edu
University of Michigan
ITD/CSS UNIX Support            +1 313 998-6264

[MODERATOR:  A nice pointer, David, thanks.]
From: ems@michael.apple.com (E. Michael Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: Armor Piercing Pistol
Date: 5 Jan 93 14:55:17 GMT
Organization: Circle 'C' Shellfish Ranch, Shores-of-the-Pacific, California

In article <2381.7.uupcb@chaos.lrk.ar.us> dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) writes:
#
#-> Basically, the "favorite" configuration is a lathe-turned
#-> brass projectile with a pointed conical tip, and a chamfered base
#-> .357 Mag         75g 2100 fps
#
# The density of the material is a problem, as it's difficult to imagine
#a 75 grain projectile being worth much against Kevlar.  Perhaps a steel
#cap on a lead bullet would be more effective?  You'd also have lead or
#jacketed lead against the rifling.
#
# Since I have a lathe and a press, perhaps I should experiment.

For those without a lathe and press, you can just get a Thompson
Contender bbl in .45-70 Gvt and order some Speer Big Gam Bullets.
They have a Tungsten Solid in .458 ... and in .338, .375, and .416
as well.  At 500 gr, the .458 should do well on penetration...

It would, of course, be illegal to load this as a pistol round in
the US.  But you could always get a Thompson Contender Carbine ;-)

Cheers...

-- 

E. Michael Smith  ems@apple.COM

'Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it.  Boldness has
 genius, power and magic in it.'  -  Goethe

I am not responsible nor is anyone else.  Everything is disclaimed.
From: jrh@mustang.dell.com (Randy Howard)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: A bit of trouble as a newbie reloader...
Date: 4 Jan 93 13:32:14 GMT
Organization: Dell Computer Co

I just got an RCBS reloading press, along with the myriad of extras (deburring
tool, primer pocket cleaner, trimmer, etc).  They didn't tell me how much I 
was going to have to spend in order to save all this money :)

Anyway, I'm attempting to load .357 and have managed all of it, except for 
the crimping.  The seater die is supposed to handle both in one step, but
the instructions appear to be written for someone that has done it all before,
and I can't get the adjustment correct.  I was hoping that someone with a 
similar setup, or experience with one, could post some pointers on how to
make this adjustment.  
-- 
Randy Howard            _o	    @'s: jrh@dell.com
Dell Computer Corp.     \<,	    !'s: ...!uunet!dellunix!jrh
______________________()/ ()______________________________________________
From: curt@access.digex.com (curt williams)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: Self Protect Handgun vs. Shotgun.
Date: 5 Jan 93 03:28:32 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA

I don't care what the numbers say on paper, the .22 Mag will never
be a .38 Special.  The .38 is at the lower end of acceptability IMHO.

You might consider the new Safety Slugs.  They sell in packages of six
and are designed to not poses as much of a danger in a house.  Supposedly
based on the Sky Marshall's ammo.  Also available in a wide range of
useful calibers (e.g. .45 ACP .40 S&W .357 Mag)
From: weed@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (daniel weed 283-4162)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Makarov (sp?) pistols?
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:31:31 GMT



Does anyone have experience with this gun?

I was at a gun show this weekend, and looked at a Makarov (sp?) 380 double 
action pistol which appeared to be a clone of the Walther PPK.  It was 2-tone, 
with a blued slide and a shiny (stainless?) frame.  The decocker lever on 
the slide was very stiff.  The price was only about $150.00.  At this price, 
I almost bought it.  But I thought I'd ask for any net wisdom on this gun.  
The gun rags seem to review these eastern block guns favorably (at least being 
good for the price).  I think there is a similar Hungarian PPK clone also
available for under $200.

Anyone have any experience with these?


Thanks

-- Dan


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Daniel Weed                                       weed@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov
McDonnell Douglas Space Systems Co. - Houston
              "My comments are my own, not my employer's"
From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: .17 vs. .223 for varmits?
Date: 8 Jan 93 14:06:10 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

In <DENNIS_.96.0@NCSU.EDU> DENNIS_@ncsu.edu (DGA) writes:

	[snip - DS]

##|> scopes on the market, and I find the lower magnification is excellent for
##|> spotting a target or sweeping a field, and the higher magnification is
##   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	[snip - DS]

#You spoke well for me, Stephen.  I don't think many of our fellow shooters 
#would consider pointing a rifle at someone ten feet away, so I am constantly 
#amazed that they will point the same rifle at someone 200 yards away with 
#abandon.  Come on guys, you have seen the bullets hit out there haven't you?

	Yup, I admit it.  I made the above SNAFU in writing.  Until now, I
hadn't thought my practice of viewing an area with the action open was a
direct violation of Rule #1.  Good call, guys.  And to think, I was pretty
smug about making sure the action was open and, hence, "safe."

	200 rounds of .30-30 in the single-stage for pennance.

< Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu viking@iastate.edu >
<  ISU only censors what I read, not what I say.  Don't blame them.  >
<  "Are you *SURE* he's worth a Harley-Davidson?" -- my grandmother  >
< to my girlfriend, about me.  "I'd better not say" -- my girlfriend >
From: cjp@megatek.com (Chris "Systems Stud" Pikus)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Night Sights?
Date: 5 Jan 93 14:55:21 GMT
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California


	I know this has just been discussed to death. So I would appreciate
it of you would just reply to me directly.

	I finally decided to take advantage of the Glock $59.95 offer on night
sights and want to know whether to get Trijicon or Metroplight.

	If there is still interest, I will summarize to the group. [Pehaps
we should put this in that promised FAQ.]

-- 
Christopher J. Pikus,        | "...  the trouble with the politics of
Megatek Corp., San Diego, CA | lowered expectations is that whenever you
INTERNET: cjp@megatek.com    | think you've lowered them enough, you have
UUCP: uunet!megatek!cjp      | to lower them again."   -- Michael Kinsley
From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: cp 9x23
Date: 7 Jan 93 13:47:34 GMT
Organization: Western Washington University

cbl@uihepa.hep.uiuc.edu (Chris Luchini) writes:
#Name				length		rim/head	neck	oal
#38 Super			.90		.406/.384	.384	1.280
#9mm Devel			.890		.380		.379	1.116
#9mm lugar/parabellum/9x19/nato	.754		.392		.380	1.169
#CP 9x21 +p+			.830		.392		.380	1.169
#9mm Mauser Pistol		.98		.390		.376	1.38
#9mm Super Cooper		.89		.379		.374	1.136
#9mm Win Mag			1.160		.394		.379	1.550
#9mm Steyr			.900		.380		.380	1.30
#9mm Largo/Bergmann-Bayard	.91		.392		.375	1.132
#CP 9x23S (the correct name for 9x23 by CP bullets)
#				.900		.392		.380	1.280

	What about the 9mm AE?  It seems like a very interesting round.
It is just a 41 AE necked back down to 9mm.   Per COTW it can top 1500
fps with a 124 gr slug in a 1911 within prudent pressure levels, beating
the .38 Super by some bit.

9mm AE				.866		.394		.390
JD
From: bcoyle@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Bill Coyle)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: 1934 Beretta
Date: 9 Jan 93 22:15:43 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst


	I have a 1934 Beretta .380, I was wondering if anyone knows where
I can get an orginal magazine for this gun?  The mag has a 7 shot capacity.

							Thanks
From: C08926RC@WUVMD.Wustl.Edu (Rob)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: RE: Bersa Thunder 9
Date: 12 Jan 93 14:09:24 GMT


#Would you really want a gun with "Thunder Nine" etched
#into the slide?

I sure would...looks like a nice gun.

Besides, from a liability standpoint, it's not as bad as the
Astra Terminator....

Rob
From: sfaber@ihlpb.att.com (Steven R Faber)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: Black-powder, Pyrodex  or ?
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:22:39 GMT
Organization: AT&T

#From article <1993Jan5.040934.22120@ra.msstate.edu>, by dnewcomb@whale.st.usm.edu (Donald R. Newcomb):
# The problem with this is that I don't understand why Pyrodex has to
# cause/promote all this rusting. Pyrodex is a smokeless bulk (volumetric)
# powder with some additive that causes it to smoke. 

As I recall Pyrodex is closer to a pyrotechnic whistle mix containing
salicylate salts than it is to a smokeless powder consisting of nitro-
cellulose so you would expect it to cause rust like black powder does.
Maybe someone could look up the patent and see for sure.

Steve
From: carl@fajita.saic.com (Carl L. LaFevers 6409)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Ammo source for Japanese rifle
Date: 12 Jan 93 22:17:57 GMT


I have a WWII Japanese rifle, tentatively identified as a Model 99, Bolt
action, with a fixed magazine.
I was told it was a 7.7mm.

I have a few questions:

Is this a right size?
Is this a standard cartridge?
Is it available?
Can I get ammo in the  states or do I need to order from Japan?
Is reloading my only hope?
The rifle is in pretty good condition, does it have any inherent value?
	(other than being a neat collectable rifle 8-) ).
Where can I find information  about this rifle?


If anybody has any answers to these questions, or  even answers to questions
I didn't think to ask,  the data  would be  greatly appreciated.

Thanks to all, in advance.

carl.