HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Timothy Leary on Comedy Central
Date: 30 Aug 92 16:01:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bradley University

In <1992Aug29.214030.20907@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (technobabblist, m.d.) writes:
>Timothy Leary's dead...no, no, he's outside....
>If you haven't seen it yet, there's a really *great* commercial
>appearing on Comedy Central with Timothy Leary in it....It shows Leary
>on, like, a hill or something, in a jacket, and the camera circles
>around him as the famous Beatles song about him plays in the
>background.... 

Um....that's a Moody Blues Song.  Just for the record.

>BTW - here's some irony....After the commercial was over I switched to
>CSPAN and it was a tape of G. Gordon Liddy giving a lecture
>somewhere...

Haven't you heard about Leary's lecture tours with Liddy?  We had them
here at Bradley a couple years ago, and it was really interesting.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
       There are three things that smell like fish.  One of them is fish.
                       The other two are growing on YOU!
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu ()
Subject: Re: The best hash I've ever
Organization: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 20:44:20 GMT
X-Posted-From: titan.ucc.umass.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

>> Maybe someone dropped some liquid acid on the hash,I'm not sure if you
>>can inhail it,but I really suspect that you can take that wonder drug
>>anyway you please!  
>
>I don't know if you can smoke LSD.  My guess is no.
>
>From the (very few) subjective accounts of PCP use I've read, it seems to
>resemble LSD a lot more than THC.  Perhaps there was dust in your hash. I'd

Hmmm, I think PCP resembles neither. There are definate differences in both
objective & subjective effects of LSD & PCP.
Also, a few years back I had some MJ laced with what I am convinced was LSD.
My supplier said this was what it was & the effects were consistant with LSD
intoxication. While I suppose it could have been DMT, considering the lack of
taste, slow peak (took a few minutes, I hear DMT hits one,"like a brick")
and dialated pupils (plus psychological effects) I'm sure this was what it was.

one way to tell if there is some LSD is to check with a black light. LSD ALWAYS
glows in a blacklight, while I've never seen hash glow in a blacklight(and I 
know PCP doesn't)

Q: does PCP or DMT dialate the pupils?
(this may not always help in case of hashish as I've gotten dialated pupils 
from large amounts of hashish)

-Scott
From: honig@ruffles.ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Subject: Re: Photosynthesis Philosophy.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Reply-To: honig@ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Organization: UC Disneyland, in the Kingdom of Bren
Keywords: Red, Blue, Black, Light, & Help.
Date: 27 Aug 92 00:14:07 GMT

 nuke@reed.edu (Bill Newcomb) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.060428.11792@eskimo.celestial.com> nanook@eskimo.celestial.com (Robert Dinse) writes:
>>In article <16AUG199200094619@acad3.alaska.edu>, jscsp@acad3.alaska.edu (Chris Parker) writes:
>>> Using the ideas in _The_complete_guide_to_growing_Marijuana_, one assumes
>>> a plant needs 'Red' and 'Blue' rays to grow, right? Well, a FOAF claims
>>> that an ultra-violet light is the most perfect place to get blue rays from.
>>> FOAF also says : ultra-violet light = Black light. <- Truth? Not Truth?
>>
>>
>>     Unless you have a flourescent item that absorbs ultra-violet and emits
>>blue, you aren't going to get blue light from ultra-violet.
>
>Only true if your source of UV is monochromatic, like a laser or something.
>Most "black-lights" emit a considerable amount of blue light, as the
>phosphor on the inside of the bulb does not emit only one frequency. You can
>see the emission, right? If it were solely UV, you wouldn't.
>I think, however, that gro-lites would stnad you in better stead.
>
>nuke@reed.edu

Hey there,
	I'm not a botanist but: when a cannabis plant is mature and you are
readying it for the kill, I have known people to put a heat lamp next to it.
I suspect that UV would also increase production of protective resins.
(So put that old eprom eraser to work.)

Realize that both lights are stressing the plant, and don't put the IR light
too close or you'll burn it and, as Marley wrote, catch a fire.

--
David "Dances with Motion Sensors" Honig

"Would you vote for a president who was too stupid to figure out how to
inhale?"
From: james@sol1.poly-east-london.ac.uk (James Andrews)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: (none)
Date: 4 Sep 92 09:32:44 GMT
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

> Newsgroups: alt.drugs
> Path: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!uunet!gumby!destroyer!ais.org!dc
> From: dc@ais.org (David Daniels)
> Subject: Trip tapes (audio) and trading dubs?
> 
> 
> Anyone interested in trading dubs of your favorite tapes to lie back a smoke
> a joint to ?  Or maybe just recommend some... 
> I've got this tape Galaxies, which is just a whole tape of music that is
> like the music on the 2001/2010 movies... Also I have an entire tape of
> thunderstorms... Sound kinda dumb at first but it's pretty weird when you're
> stoned.. Also I have a tape of a couple trip songs (most rap) and some other
> good songs (rap again)... If ya want any of the above and you have anything
> you want to trade drop me some mail. 

To join in the fave toons when wrecked thread, here are my personal choices

old hippie sounds:
Love "Forever changes"
Buffalo Springfield      ( "have a hit with buffalo springfield"- as their
				early publicity said)
Tim Buckley		( he wrote "song to the siren" )
Nick Drake

new hippie sounds:
Cocteau Twins		( an aquaintence tried to interview one them but he
			refused to stop eating jaffa cakes long enough to 
			answer any questions )
The Orb			( Im sure the dry ice they use at there shows is
			"laced" with something ;-) )
KLF "Chill Out"		( Spot the Elvis )

Jazz
Wes Montegomery
Blue note sampler "Heroes of the Hammond" 

I think I'll stop there, Im getting carried away
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: 901371d@dragon.acadiau.ca (Danny DiDio)
Subject: Re: The best hash I've ever
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 20:02:21 GMT


 Ya,I thought that may have been the case.I can see why I had hallucinations,
concidering the fact we smoked a gram in a spiff in the car.
 But,when your on acid you feel and think in a totally different perspective,
even without hallucinations at all.Others who smoked the hash,even friends
who smoked it in conciderable less quantity,said they also had that acid high.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,soc.culture.usa,talk.politics.drugs
From: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Subject: Re: Satanic Crime units?? Re: WoD: Frontline Report
Reply-To: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 02:20:45 GMT

>Since USEnet is not US govt property and is indeed not even limited to the US
>the US consitiution has no more bearing on it than that of the USSR or Germany.

Well - not if you ask the US govt, which apparently holds the opinion
that it's laws and standards apply globally.  I don't think USSR (RIP,
though EC is trying to revive the idea) or Germany have made that
claim.  Hmm, then again, there was Hitler and the Soviet Union has had
some quite outgoin leaders also.  Hmm, perhaps you're right after all.

//Jyrki
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: cklausme@jarthur.claremont.edu (Chris Klausmeier)
Subject: Free Catalog with Fun Stuff
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 03:50:01 GMT


I found a flier on the "evil" effects of marijuana a while ago, and
thoroughly enjoyed reading it.  On the back, it gave a 1-800 for a catalog
from the company that produced the masterpiece, so I called up and got it a
few days ago.  If you're easily amused, call up and get one yourself: its
full of WoD misinformation products to buy, along with other health related
stuff (anatomical models, booklets, etc.).  The company's name is Health
EDCO and their phone number is 1-800-299-3366 x295.  Just ask for their
catalog.

Just for laughs, here are a few slogans from some of their merchandise:

Get Really Stoned - Drink Wet Cement
Pushers Never Hit a Kid When He's Down - They Kick Him
An Addicts Life is Like a Razor - In and Out of Hot Water and Close Scrapes
A Bad Trip is No Picnic

and my favorite:  Hallucinogens: Trip or Trap?

Also, the one product I would consider ordering (the prices are way high):
100 marijuana odor tablets ("Break and ignite to create the odor of
marijuana being smoked!") for $35.  A bit pricey, but you could really have
creative fun with them.

-- Chris
From: bx461@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Leo J. Mauler)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: hydroponics
Date: 30 Aug 92 21:10:29 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


>I was wondering and think I found a possible serious 
>enterprise...  Since selling hydroponics equipment _is_ 
>legal, (isn't it?) how about buying 4-5 hydroponics setups at
>a time mail order and selling 'em at the flee market for a
>hefty profit.  That way, people could buy them without putting
>their name on a list.  Think it it would work?
 
Why not skip the whole process of buying hydroponic setups for 
sale at flea markets, and make them yourself?
 
Your local library should have some pre-1980s books on the 
subject of hydroponics.  A waterproofed wooden tank, some 
metal screens, a water pump to keep the water moving slowly 
and recirculated, and a homemade nutrient solution, and you 
have the bottom half of the hydroponic setup.  Add a few 
fluorescent lights and maybe plastic sheeting (to make it a 
sort-of terrarium) and you have a hydroponic setup, built 
entirely outside any Operation Green Merchant, and still 
marketable.
-- 
Never do this at home.  Look how easily it killed this sig.
/\  ___/\  ___/\  _____________________________________________
  \/     \/     \/  bx461@cleveland.freenet.edu (Leo J. Mauler)
DISCLAIMER: Everything I say is false, including this sentence.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu ()
Subject: Re: MDMA
Organization: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:31:08 GMT
X-Posted-From: titan.ucc.umass.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Sep3.203748.22647@mits.mdata.fi> jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen) writes:
>locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu () writes:
>
>>Don't you think if they could produce a disease in test subjects with
>>something as well understood in its effects on the brain as MMDMA, they would
>>be able to cure this disease, or at least say what causes it?
>
>   As I didn't find a substance called MMDMA from PIHKAL, I take that you meant
>MDMA. From previous postings by people who ought to know what they were talking
>about I have gotten the impression that the effects of MDMA on the brain are
>not very well understood. So, could you please clarify?

Yah, MDMA (EMACS broke), doesn't matter how well understood it is; if you can
cause a disease with a drug, then you are much closer to understanding what
the "natural" cause of the disease is.
-Scott



Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ulma@coli.uni-sb.de (Ulrich Mayring)
Subject: Re: hallucinogenic/pseudo-spiritual drugs
Organization: U of Saarbruecken, Dept. of Computational Linguistics
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:20:59 GMT

pjm@cshl.org (Pat Monardo) writes:

>there is a group for this (which i just subscribed to)
>called alt.consciousness. it is probably a better place
>for this type of discussion.

There's also a book for it. I think the author refers to Castaneda, do you?


     Ulrich Mayring

       - Man muss schon sehr genau hinhoeren - 

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From: atfurman@cup.portal.com (A T Furman)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,misc.legal,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: Fort Wayne: Landlords Must Evict Drug-Dealing Tenants
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 20:16:02 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>
> 
>( New .sig under construction. Watch this space! )
>August 25, 1992
>
>The Fort Wayne, IN.  City Council is voting tonight on an ordinance
>providing for fines to be levied against landlords who do not evict
>tenants after the city sends the landlord a letter asserting that drugs
>are being sold in said tenants' apartment. The amount of the proposed
>fines is to range from $500 to $2500/day.
>-- 
>Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>

A fine example of the Fascist conception of propery (i.e., property
is never really OWNED by private individuals, but rather possessed
in stewardship for the ultimate good of the Nation).


    Alan T. Furman         | VOTE LIBERTARIAN!!  Marrou/Lord in 92!!
---------------------------+----------------------------------------
  atfurman@cup.portal.sig  |   (800)682-1776 for more information
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu ()
Subject: Re: Trip tapes (audio) and trading dubs?
Organization: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 18:38:24 GMT
X-Posted-From: titan.ucc.umass.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <Bu0IoA.o5@ais.org> dc@ais.org (David Daniels) writes:
>
>Anyone interested in trading dubs of your favorite tapes to lie back a smoke
>a joint to ?  Or maybe just recommend some... 
>I've got this tape Galaxies, which is just a whole tape of music that is
>like the music on the 2001/2010 movies... Also I have an entire tape of
>thunderstorms... Sound kinda dumb at first but it's pretty weird when you're

Listen to "ambient", "tribal", or "factory" industrial- its the best (& I like
some weird shit; like australian tribal music) for trips & stones.
Some of my favs;

Hafler Trio "dislocation"
Nurse With Wound (its all good)
Throbbing Gristle "Greatest Hits" or "Final Report"
Hunting Lodge "harvest"
Einshturzen Neubatten (sp!?) (all of it!)
Cabaret Voltaire "mix up" (don't buy their newer stuff-its dance music)
Lustmord "heresy"
for good intros to the genre try these compilations;
Tyrrany of the Beat
Dry Lungs (I-IV)

Stuff to avoid (these will be mentioned whenever you bring up the name 
"industrial"-they all suck; dancy, or overcommercialized)
Skinny Puppy 
Nine Inch Nails
Ministry (actually OK if you're into hardcore; how they are associated with
"industrial" is beyond me)
FLA
Laibach

Enjoy!
-Scott

Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: "Paul Hager" <hagerp@moose.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: The Clinton Challenge -- an update
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 23:29:07 -0500


I called the 800 number that I was given.  It turned out to be a
volunteer/donation number.  The person who answered delivered some
canned speech -- for a moment I thought she was a recording -- and
then asked we what kind of help I was offering.  When I asked about
the "drug policy desk", she had absolutely no idea what I was 
talking about.

I reported on this fiasco to the Clinton/Gore people on CompuServe
and hope to get a response tomorrow.
-- 
paul hager		hagerp@moose.cs.indiana.edu

"I would give the Devil benefit of the law for my own safety's sake."
                       --from _A_Man_for_All_Seasons_ by Robert Bolt
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From: blosser_cy@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs,alt.society.civil-liberty
Subject: Re: Clinton in _Rolling Stone_ on civil liberties and the WOD
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:49:35 EDT
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC

Clinton states in Rolling Stone:

> Most of the people in the drug culture are profoundly disconnected
> from the rest of our country. 

How can he make that assumption? From what I've seen quite a large
proportion of the drug culture resides within our universities and
more than a few play important roles in society.  I believe the use
of hallucinogens played an important role in the research into the
'virtual reality' aspects of computer technology, but I guess Clinton
must think we're all residing in cardboard boxes...cashing
in our welfare checks & bumming on the street to support our habit.

>They live in places where it is harder to answer the question "Why not?" 

...because that place is America--where we (or at least we should) have
the right to alter or enhance our consciousness the way we see fit, so long
as we do no harm to our fellow neighbor. We vote, we pay taxes, we're
obliged to die for our country if needs be...why can't we have our choice
of recreational substances? Some of us would rather refrain from using
alcohol, or tobacco--both of which are the top two most-dangerous drugs in
our nation today.

>The issue is, how do you reconnect them? How do you give them some reason to 
>live the life you're calling them to live?

So just what IS the life Clinton calls us to live? One of conformity and
submission--where we're content to be cogs in the machine and harm ourselves
with legal poisons?

My, what a vision he has...what a great Prez this dude is going to be!!! =)

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: heard through the grapevine
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:27:17 GMT

In article <BtxEpC.5I4@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v113mg59@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Ronald T Coslick Jr) writes:
>Thing #1:  Al Gore and Jack Herer?!?!?
>
>"I know....we're with you" (!)

Now we're getting *secret* support from politicians.  <retch>.  If our
"leaders" are not willing to discuss prohibition openly, it will not change.
We must force their hand by voting Libertarian (or some other party that is
openly anti-prohibition).

Stay tuned for the lizard-thing; I'll be posting it just before the election
in November.

>Thing #2:  Kuntsler defends dope dealer
>
>Dana Beal of NYC who was caught with several pounds of schmee 

Is that a new term for pot, or is it hash or something?

>Thing #3:   Bus drivers prefer Bud
>
>A city bus driver told a friend recently that many of her 
>co-workers smoke marijuana on the job to relieve the physical 
>discomfort of driving long shifts.  Apparently driving is very 
>physically stressful as well as psychologically, and drivers 
>often develop acute muscal and joint soreness from sitting for
>long hours behind the wheel.  However, prescription drugs which 
>would alleviate the pain would also cause physical impairment which is 
>a no-no behind the wheel.  So, most of the drivers smoke dope, 
>which apparently does not impair driving.

Bullshit.  It does impair driving -- especially in large quantities or with
inexperienced users.  Like alcohol, but not as bad.

Assholes who do shit like this are the reason there is political pressure to
test people for drugs.  

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
From: despair@netcom.com (Scott Hanson)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Effadrine hydrochloride
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:52:43 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <199208281813.AA05621@ub.d.umn.edu> jkirby@UB.D.UMN.EDU (Just Kirby) writes:
>Hey,
>
>A few days ago, I pruchased (From Super America, no less) a bottle of
>effadrine hydrochloride.  It is sold as an asthma treatmen (bronciodialator)
>but I've been using it as a stimulant (tho it has cleadr up my breathing
>remakably).  It actually looks like white cross, you know, the "speed" you
>used to buy in highschool, and has similar effects;  hair tinglies and all.
>
>Does anyone know anything about the neuro-toxicity of the stuff?  How about
>it's long term effects?  Lee the Bastard told me that it causes liver
>problems over the long term, but he's a bastard and i don't know if I believe
>him.
>

I was addicted to ephedrine HCL for some time.  It is a delightful and "clean"
seeming stimulant.  I became fond of ephedra (mormon) tea for obvious reasons.
The research I did indicated bronchial and sinus trouble were the main hazards.
Apparently the blood vessels become permanently enlarged rather quickly.
Any conclusive studies would be welcome, my information was basically folklore.

Regards.
-- 
Scott Hanson		This has been a recording.
despair@netcom.com
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From: larry@cs.com (Larry Spence)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,misc.legal,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: Fort Wayne: Landlords Must Evict Drug-Dealing Tenants
Summary: welcome to the police state
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:04:51 GMT
Organization: Computer Support Corporation,  Dallas,Texas

In article <!9bnh=.feustel@netcom.com> feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel) writes:
>Appended to this post is the text of the proposed Fort Wayne
>Ordinance. Note that what this ordinance really implements is a
>requirement that a landlord evict (with attendent expense and risk of
>legal retribution) tenants who are *suspected* of being involved with
>illegal drugs. Failure to comply with this ordinance results in a fine
>of $2500/day. 
>I believe this ordinance tolls the end of three fundamental concepts of
>common law: "innocent until proven guilty", "trial by jury" and "due
>process".

The new issue of Newsweek has a nice article on the 300th anniversary of
the Salem witch trials.  The only modern parallel they draw is to the tactic
of attacking parents/teachers/etc by accusing them of sexual abuse of young 
children.  Not a word about drug hysteria or forfeiture. %( %(

-- 
Larry Spence
larry@cs.com
uunet!csccat!larry or sun!texsun!csccat!larry
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From: gavin@tiger1.prime.com (Dave Gavin)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: "Cain's 100", "Frank Miller" -- the perils of channel-grazing ...
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:18:37 GMT
Organization: Prime Computer, Inc.

ever watch dragnet....that seems to be where the ptfa gets all
of its info on the killer weed...
From: holland@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Rich Holland)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Robitussin
Date: 30 Aug 92 05:04:15 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:

>Dextromethorphan is only found in Robitussin DM,
>not that I recommend you take it.

DM is still OTC though, correct?

-- 
Rich Holland              | INTERNET: holland@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
100 Jardine Terr, Apt A7  | BITNET  : holland@ksuvm
Manhattan, KS  66502-3357 | UUCP    : ...!rutgers!matt.ksu.ksu.edu!holland
"Jesus saves...but Gretzky gets the rebound!  He shoots!  He scores!!"
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: rfb@CS.CMU.EDU (Rick Busdiecker)
Subject: Re: Marijuana for Paper
Originator: rfb@H.GP.CS.CMU.EDU
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
	<1992Aug31.123459.22519@bnr.ca>
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:28:02 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.123459.22519@bnr.ca> labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche) writes:

   After Alcohol prohibition MJ was made/kept(not sure) illegal . . .

The 21st amendment which repealed the 18th amendment and ended
prohibition was passed by Congress on 20 February 1993 and ratified on
5 December 1933.  The 1937 Marihuana Tax Act was the start of
marijuana criminalization.  So, marijuana was legal throughout
Prohibition.
-- 
Rick Busdiecker <rfb+@cs.cmu.edu>
``Just saying `no' prevents teenage pregnancy the way `Have a nice day' cures
  chronic depression.''
				- Faye Wattleton