From: rc@depsych.Gwinnett.COM (Richard Carlson)
Newsgroups: news.misc,alt.config,alt.drugs,alt.postmodern,alt.angst
Subject: Re: Newsgroup Vandalism (was: Re: alt.cascade anyone? (was Re: Aaaaa
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:07:45 GMT

gcf@panix.com (Gordon Fitch) writes:

> Since your contempt for my writing seems uninformed, I won't
> reply further except to note that you haven't answered any of
> the questions I posed or implied except in the most superficial
> manner.  Why don't you give it a try?  For instance: why do you
> think alt.postmodern or alt.drugs should exist only as
> appendixes to talk.bizarre?  This seems to be the position
> you're taking.  And I invite others of the "aw, lighten up"
> school to participate.  I don't know what's been going on in
> alt.drugs, but alt.postmodern has seen hundreds of these
> articles already, and they're still coming.

The questions you raise are interesting at several levels.  Why
has American pop culture generally seen phenomenological thought,
in particular existentialism and deconstruction, as silly, and
then gone on to portray its practitioners as pseudo-intellectuals?

But there may not be a profound answer.  Maybe Sartre "asked for
it" with his poses back in the 50s.  Any time there was an
"existentialist" in an American movie of the 50s he was always a
phoney who was after the American co-ed tourists, and usually
refuted by an honest punch in the nose from the co-ed's boyfriend.
I'm waiting for the first American movie of the 90s to have a
"deconstructionist" in it -- I predict the guy will also be a
phoney in a turtleneck and the girl will go back to her hundred
percent American, rock and roll, Wall Street boyfriend before the
movie ends.

Btw, I tried to answer your e-mail message but some mailer daemon
somewhere turned it back.  Do you got through attmail?  Look at
this header on the returned mail(!):

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	panix.com!depsych.Gwinnett.COM!cmcl2!mathcs.emory.edu!rc (Richard Carlson) 
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Anyway, here's the original message. I hope you can figure out how
to get to DERRIDA.  Good luck!

> How do you get an ungated bitnet list?  Or at least,
> this one in particular?

Somehow I managed to subscribe to it about a month ago.  I know
the message went to LISTSERV somewhere.  I didn't know how to
_post_ in it, but I got several suggestions from readers of
alt.postmodern and I sent some test messages (making a minor point
about something or other I hope I won't get too badly flamed for
-- why try for precision if you don't know if your post is going
to see the light of day?) and one format worked:

DERRIDA@CFRVM.CFR.USF.EDU

That address lets you post once you're officially on the list.

Btw, I've enjoyed your posts on alt.postmodern.  It's kind of a
shame the Newsgroup turned into a permanent cascade.  I guess
cascades are a kind of pop postmodernism since ease and
enjoyability are recognized criteria of the postmodern when
contrasted with the modern, according to Lyotard.

--
Richard Carlson
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