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From: hopeman@seas.smu.edu (Jennifer Hopeman)
Subject: Re: Rice 67 Texas Tech 59
Organization: School of Engineering and applied science; S.M.U.; Dallas, Tx
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:21:14 GMT

In article <C17tsM.Cyy@rice.edu> rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera) writes:
>
[stuff deleted]

>Brent Scott appeared to have an off night.  However, Peaks and Andrews 
>and Moore all made decent contributions to the game.

You probably meant Tynes instead of Peakes.  Peakes injured his foot early in
the game and only played 5 or so minutes.  I was listening to the game on a
Tech radio station and they didn't say anything more about his injury.  Does
anyone know how serious it is?  Hopefully not too bad, because Rice does not
have a lot of depth. 
 
>Rice is now 4-0 in the SWC.  Next game is Saturday at Baylor, 7:35
>CST.  It should be a tough one - they only lost to Houston by 6 points
>and are in the top 5 in the country in three point shooting percentage
>(or was it point total?)
>

Rice is off to its best SWC start since 1945.  They also have a 7 game win
streak.  I wonder how long it's been since they won that many in a row.

>Now back to our Big10 and ACC (go jackets!) postings ...

I just saw on ESPN that Duke was up on NC state 55-20 at the half.  Haven't
we seen enough Duke games on national TV this year?  Rice wins 20 games last
year and has most of their team back.  Guess how many times they are on ESPN
this year?  Once.  Of course Duke should be on a lot more than Rice, but I
think the ratio is just a bit too high.  The rich get richer...

>  Rob Butera        |
>  ECE grad student  |  PRODIGY (tm) - the Fisher-Price of commercial
>  Rice University   |                 online services
>  Houston, TX       |

Bill
From: crs@carson.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Pac Ten Freshmen (was:  Re: Cal whips UCLA's Butt)
Keywords: 104-82 !
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:13:41 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
>lowood@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Henry Lowood) writes:
>>crs@u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck writes:
>
>> >All freshman team:  Kidd, M. Hendrickson, D. Cross (I think he is a frosh), 
>> Oh, I see you are way ahead of me.  As for shooting guard, you forgot 
>> Cal's Jerod Haase.  He is VERY good and carried the team in a few of the
>> early-season games.  What about Barry up at Oregon State?  Or is he really
>> their point guard.  He does have the occasional brilliant moment, followed
>> usually by an equally creative turnover.  
>
>Geez - excuse me for asking but have any of you guys even heard of any of
>Arizona's freshmen this season - you know the guys - the ones who have been
>racking up pretty impressive minutes and winning games for the cats who are
>in first place and undefeated in conference play? Yeah - those guys.
>Clearly, Geary and Blair deserve a spot on the all freshmen team and if
>MaClean continues to play well I think he deserves one as well...
>I believe it was against ASU that Geary had no turnovers in 27 minutes of
>play (quite a feat against the Devils) and Blair is still shooting at
>a very hig fg%.

Hey, Gary, I agree that Arizona has some talented freshmen.  The thing is
that they play behind a talented group of juniors and seniors and don't
typically get enough minutes to put out the numbers of somebody like Mark
Hendrickson who I think is second in the conference in rebounding.  If you
would like us to seriously consider them, let's see some statistics...

****************************************************************************
Cliff Slaughterbeck           * 
Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   There is no such thing as "rock bottom".
University of Washington      *   
Seattle, WA 98195             *
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From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado)
Subject: Re: The Blue Devil Curse.
Organization: Florida State University Department of Know-it-alls
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 17:53:00 GMT

In article <C1F5v0.8JF@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.) writes:
>Has anybody else noticed that every team that has beaten Duke so far this
>year has gone on to begin LOSING streaks afterward?  Georgia Tech lost to
>UNC, Charleston and Wake Forest after beating Duke, and Virginia lost to
>UNC and Tech after their win in Cameron.  Maybe the woofing gods are trying
>to tell us something...
>
>Better watch out, Seminole fans.  You're next. *evil grin*

Ah, but the difference this time is that we (or at least I) EXPECT to lose
at UNC. :)

>
>-- 
>--David J.-----------------------*********************************************
>--Blue Riddle Productions 1993---   "RAP IS AN ART/TURN UP THE MICROPHONE"
>--dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu-          Coming in 1993 from BRP.
>---------------------------------*********************************************


Kevin (where, oh where has our Andre Reid gone,
       he broke his hand and left us here all alone.
       where, oh where has our Andre Reid gone,
       he's gone and left us *pfttpt* here all alone.)
From: as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: UK over S. Carolina
Date: 23 Jan 1993 22:01:03 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Kentucky got what they needed on the tough three game SEC road trip, they
went an impressive 2-1, blowing outthe Gamecocks on their home floor today.
Now UK has four straight SEC games at Rupp, starting with arch-rival LSU and
Dale "Charge onto the floor and assault the other teams' players" Brown (No
I'm not talking about UK's Brown! ;))

Mike
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From: jfc3348@u.cc.utah.edu (John F. Conroy)
Subject: Re: North Carolina #1?
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Student Mail Machine
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 00:34:30 GMT

In article <1jv9sjINN3r@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner) writes:
>
>I realize there is no way the AP will vote UNC #1 since Kansas did not lose,
>but surely with wins at Seton Hall and Virginia, they deserve it.  Easily
>the most impressive job this week by the Elite 6.
>
>Mike

I only saw the first half of the Seton Hall game, but how was Luther (Project)
Wright outplaying Montross? Maybe Mr. Wright has just made some very large
strides (kind of self-evident- would you expect small strides?) recently,
but Montross was tearing up teams last year, especially around tournament
time, and yet he looked distinctly mortal today.


John Conroy.

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From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Re: Duke, UNC Games This Week
Organization: Blue Riddle Productions
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:59:53 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.121928.1051@ecsvax.uncecs.edu> burgin@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Robert Burgin) writes:
>In article <1k2ekvINN6kf@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner) writes:
>>
>>Kansas was blown out by Long Beach State.  Is this the biggest upset of the
>>decade?
>
>	Maybe.  The decade's young.

There have already been bigger upsets, anyway.  Richmond over Syracuse and
Charleston over Georgia Tech ought to be 1-2 right now.

>>Who is #1 now?  Depends on which of the other Elite 6 lose this week: UK will
>>play LSU and Florida at home, who do
>>Michigan, UNC, IU, Duke play this week?
>
>	UNC has Florida State at home and Wake Forest on the road.
>	Duke has San Francisco at home and then Maryland on the
>	road.  I dunno about them Big Ten schools.

IU has Minnesota at home and N'Western in Evanston.  UNC will be number one
if they win their games, which doesn't bother me, since number one teams just
keep getting beat down this year.

>	--rb

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From: sgauch@ccs.northeastern.edu (Susan Gauch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: UNC over FSU (what a come back)
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:06:46 GMT
Organization: College of CS, Northeastern U

In article <1993Jan28.133853.26118@ecsvax.uncecs.edu> burgin@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Robert Burgin) writes:
>In article <C1JxML.E3J@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cdcg9698@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Charles D. Croxton) writes:
>>I've had my doubts about whether this Carolina team was as good as advertised,
>>but after tonight I don't.  They played terribly to get behind by 21 (of course
>>Florida State played very well, too), but it takes a good team to come back
>>from a deficit like that and win.
>
>	It takes a real good team not to get behind by 21 points
>	in the first place.  If UNC does that against a team with
>	some depth and a little discipline in March, Dean's going
>	to have another early exit from the NCAA tourney.
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I believe that UNC has the longest streak of Sweet 16 appearances in
history (8? 9?).  Hardly "early exits".  By your comment, it seems that
an early exit is anything except the National Championship.  Yes, they
don't always get to the Final 4 when they might be predicted to, but that's
why they play the games!

-- 
Susan Gauch
sgauch@flora.ccs.northeastern.edu
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From: rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann)
Subject: Re: UNC defeats Seton Hall
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:03:17 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.205534.19727@samba.oit.unc.edu> Curt.Hill@launchpad.unc.edu (Curt Hill) writes:
> UNC vs Seton Hall
> January 24, 1993
> Brendan Byrne Arena
> Toxic Waste Pit, NJ
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Tar Hole.  Tar Hole!  TAR HOLE!

> 
> A short [slanted] review of a game on national television.

I've deleted the text concerning UNC.  IOW, all the text.

Curt,  did you notice that there was another team on the floor?

> Boxscore
> 
> Seton Hall
>              MP    FG      FT     R   A   F     PTS
> Walker       36   5-6     0-0     7   3   3      10
> Karnishovas  31   5-9     2-2     4   2   4      15
> Wright       36   4-8     3-5    14   0   3      11
A big game by the big guy.         ^^
> Hurley       12   0-4     0-0     0   2   2       0
This is the Hurley who can shoot?                   ^
> Dehere       25   4-12    2-2     1   2   4      10
> Griffin      12   2-3     1-2     4   0   0       5
> Caver        30   2-5     0-1     3   7   2       4
> Leahy        17   3-4     2-2     1   1   2      11
> Shipp         1   0-1     0-0     1   0   1       0
>             200  25-52   10-14   35  17  21      66
> 
> 
> North Carolina       30    40      70
> Seton Hall           32    34      66
> 
> Three-point goals: North Carolina 1-5 (Williams 1-3, Phelps 0-1, Reese 0-1),
> Seton Hall 6-13 (Karnishovas 3-3, Leahy 3-4, Dehere 0-4, Caver 0-2).
> Turnovers: North Carolina 9, Seton Hall 23.  Technical fouls - North
> Carolina bench.  Officials - Higgins, Gray, Scagliotta. A - 20,029.
> 

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From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: UW-Milwaukee wins by 52!!!
Date: 25 Jan 1993 16:18:33 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
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Originator: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

Okay, it was against Sacramento State, but still easily the worst whupping
they've taken this year. State was down only 13-12 after draining a few tough
shots in the early going, but an alley-oop reverse slam by Craig Greene got
the Panthers going and it was 44-18 at the half.
In the first half alone, mighty Marc Mitchell had eight points, eight assists,
seven steals and four rebounds. The second half was garbage time from the start
as everybody played and UWM increased its lead throughout, finally winning     
96-44. 

It was quite a day for college hoops in Wisconsin. Marquette beat Anfernee
Hardaway and Memphis State by 12 on the strength of 34-35 shooting from the
charity stripe and Wisconsin knocked off previously ranked Michigan State.
All this action moved UW from getting no votes in the rankings to being 24,
Marquette from about 35th to 26th on the charts. UWM played one game, winning
by 52 points, and didn't get any votes after getting one last week. :(

Up next, a couple games Wednesday. UW travels to Champaign to face the Illini,
while UWM hosts Missouri-Kansas City at the MECCA. Now that UW-Milwaukee has
beat a ranked team (UW), we're hoping to see those computer ratings rise!

--salty

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From: rogers@ofc.Columbia.NCR.COM (HL Rogers)
Subject: Kentucky's Aminu Timberlake
Originator: rogers@ofc
Reply-To: hl.rogers@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (HL Rogers)
Organization: NCR Corporate SLM
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 17:55:59 GMT

My seats for Kentucky's visit to South Carolina were among the
Kentucky boosters, which was good for me; I get pretty wound up
at these games and didn't want to anger my neighbors...I do have
to live here.

Anyway, I asked a Kentucky guy why Pitino wasn't playing Timberlake.  
Without hesitation, he said, "He's afraid Timberlake will get 
stepped on." An obvious reference to Laettner's chest stomp.  Then 
this guy started busting his gut laughing.  I guess they are still
discussing the chest stomp in Lexington.

After he calmed down, he said that Pitino hopes Timberlake will
get the message and leave - he needs Timberlake's scholarship.
Anybody know more about this?
-- 
HL Rogers    (hl.rogers@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM)
These opinions are mine and may not be consistent
with those of my employer.
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From: jhildebr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Hildebrand)
Subject: Divsion III: Score wanted from Saturday.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 21:02:01 GMT

	Could someone post a score and if possible a summary (although I
probably don't want to know) of Saturday's game between Swarthmore and John
Hopkins at Hopkins? Is the Garnet still snakebit from the curse of their
final seconds collapse in the 1991 MAC finals?

--
Jeff Hildebrand, The Shaggy TA		       	   hildebra@math.wisc.edu
"The following statement  is an editorial viewpoint  and does not reflect 
the views of WSRN-FM, its employees, or mutant drosophila" - Off the Cuff
"And a tenor I wouldn't give two fives for."       -       City of Angels
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From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Re: ATTENTION ALL PENN STATERS-IMPORTANT!!!
Organization: Blue Riddle Productions
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:55:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.223725.25460@news.acns.nwu.edu> marek@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marek Lugowski) writes:
>exby@spot.Colorado.EDU (Doc Exby) writes:
>
>>oh god.
>>
>>there's nothing more BOOOORING to me than "lady hoops" or the
>>business of trying to promote fan interest in it.
>>about as fun as shoveling snow....
>>
>>i'll stop now before someone blows up on this and calls me a
>>sexist.
>>
>>::j
>
>
>::j should be challenged to enduring a Penn State women's basketball team
>practice, especially the part where the Nittany Lionnesses (TM) would
>drill 3-on-one fast breaks against ::j and he would be punished each
>time he failed to draw a charge.  With an enema.
>
>				-- Marek

Sort of like the verbal enemas you dish out on a regular basis on this board,
eh, Marek?  Wait until Gunga Jim hears about this...

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From: tmorgan@chips.ssesco.com (Toni Morgan)
Subject: Re: Wahoos
Organization: SSESCO
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:07:54 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.184606.6531@Virginia.EDU> ejv2j@Virginia.EDU ("") writes:

>The Hoos went to the Final Four without Sampson in the 1980's, although I
>can't remember the year....I think it was the year after
>Sampson left.  If not maybe with Olden Polynice.....anyone know
>for sure?

1984.  By an incredible coincidence, I had "won" 4 tix in the Final Four lottery
that year.  I also lost a dinner bet that ended up costing me about $100 - at
mid-season I was certain that I would be watching UNC in Seattle.  The $100
dinner was worth the chance to see my beloved Hoos in the Final Four.  They
had Othell Wilson and Ricky Stokes in the back court, but the rest of the roster
at least temporarily slips my mind.  Possibly one or more of Miller & Mullen.
I think Polynice was still on the team then.  I still have a program at home,
so will check.  They played in the best game of the Final Four, taking Houston
to overtime before losing a close one.  The other semi-final, between Kentucky
(with Sam Bowie) and eventual champion Georgetown, was a disaster for Kentucky,
who couldn't get the ball into the basket in the second half (or was it the
first?).

rgds,
  T
Toni Morgan        |   "Rock and roll is more than a haircut."
toni@zetaco.com    |                               - Nuno Bettencourt
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From: jonesk@ur.msstate.edu
Subject: Re: Opinions on Dick Vitale
Reply-To: jonesk@ur.msstate.edu
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:37:14 GMT

If I only hear the TV audio and not the video, I can't
tell Vitale from Valvano. I can't stand either one.

Kay Jones
From: as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Louisville over Southern Miss
Date: 22 Jan 1993 04:40:07 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Louisville pretty much controlled the game, despite an incredible 3-ptr
barrage from S. Miss in the second half.  I think they hit 17 3-ptrs in the
second half, including some wild, fantastic, incredible fall away/fall down/
NBA 3's (All at once!).  The game was about 10pts with a minute left, and
S. Miss hit 2 more 3's to cut it to 4.  Otherwise, they had no inside game
but made the incredible comeback anyway.

From the Louisville standpoint, this game turned out just like the DePaul
game; UofL leading comfortably the whole game by 10-15 or more, then a
squeeker due to powerful perimeter shooting.  Louisville is ranked in the top 3
in 3-pt shooting percentage (And they made about 10 this game, 7-10 in first
half), but their opponents are hitting a better percentage in GAMES AGAINST
LOUISVILLE.  So, UofL's perimeter defense is abysmal overall.

This was a very big win for the smarting Cardinals (Who would be 10-3 with a
little better luck at Georgia Tech and Vandy).  They are 8-5 (4-0 in
conference, 3 road wins in conference).

Outlook for the rest of the season is good; the best teams on UofL's 
schedule are at UNLV, and 2 games with Tulane in conference

One more thing about tonight's game: The Louisville freshmen (Tick Rogers and
Brian Kiser) were excellent, combining for 17pts and key 3-ptr's.

Mike
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From: morse@cs.unc.edu (Bryan Morse)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: USA Today/CNN Top 25 (actually 10) --
Date: 21 Jan 1993 09:29:15 -0500
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
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In article <2252@blue.cis.pitt.edu> pmmst8+@pitt.edu (Paul M Mweene) writes:
>
>Wow! The girl thinks her first boyfriend is the worlds best lover.....
>Charlie Ward is a beneficiary of the Dion Neon Sanders syndromme. A
>totally average player in baseball finds himself acclaimed in the 
>sport simply because of the hype value- which he has earned ONLY in
>football. 

Where have you been?

Charlie Ward and FSU made a name for themselves in basketball last year 
when Ward was still warming the bench on the football team.  If anything, 
he was overhyped in football because of his two-sport fame with basketball.  
The question was if he could perform on the gridiron--his performance on 
the basketball court was already established.  

-- 
Bryan Morse                University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
morse@cs.unc.edu           Department of Computer Science
From: rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Duke Crushes San Francisco 117-73
Date: 27 Jan 93 07:23:42 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

Well, in what I'm sure will come as a shocker to all of you, Duke
destroyed the Dons of USF tonight in Cameron Indoor Stadium.

The Devils started out sluggishly, looked like they'd never heard of a
rebound, and led only by 6 at 32-26 with 5:26 left in the first half.
At this point, Coach K took a TO, and over the next three minutes Duke
went on a 16-2 run to extend to lead out to 20 points, which wound up
being the margin at halftime.

Duke extended this margin throughout the second half, running the margin
up near 50 points on several occasions.  Solid bench play (I'm not even
kidding) contributed heavily.

The Chief led all scorers with 21 points including 9-9 from the field.
Tony Lang had 16 on something like 7-8 shooting.  The Hills and Hurley
were also in double figures, as were Marty Clark and Erik Meek.  Clark
in particular provided a spark off the bench, which will be vital if
we're to have any chance against the infidels from Chapel Hill next
week.  Chris Collins also got significant time, and had several nifty
plays.  Kenny Blakeney had five steals and two points.

On an ominous note, the Dons (with no starter over 6'7") outrebounded
the Devils 17-12 in the first half.  Duke won the battle of the boards
overall 36-30, I think.  

Random Stats:  Duke was 14-15 from the line in the first half.  Duke
shot 62% in the first half and 63% in the second half, while the hapless
Dons shot at a 44% clip for the game.  Duke scored 85 points in the last
25 minutes of the game.

Good cheers:  When USF leading scorer (& the only guy who had any
success at all) Orlando Smart picked up his fourth foul with more than
11 minutes left, the students chanted "Not so Smart!  Not so Smart!"
Toward the end of the massacre, the chant was "Start the trolley!  Start
the trolley!"  Also, during a USF free throw, the band members swayed
side to side and yelled "Tick!  Tock!  Tick  Tock!"  Kind of random, but
the guy bricked the shot.

USF falls to 12-7 with the loss, Duke improves to 14-3.  Next up for the
Devils:  A 1:30 Saturday game at Maryland.  Seeing as how it's not a
Sunday game, we've got a decent shot.

- Rob Mac K


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