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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:37:07 EST
From: <RXD113@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: RE: WWF in 1993

On the subject of Shawn Micheals defending his title against Bob Backlund,
Bob is supposed to wrestle Micheals in early Feb at Hershey Park Arena for the
title. I don't think that Bob will win though.

Hart should drop the title to Flair in Jan. They keep talking about to much on
the shows that it surely is going to happen. This might set up some Flair vs
Perfect matches down the road after the Rumble.

With the "so-called" return of warrior, who knows what is going to happen next,
and what if the warrior turns heel?

Russ
From: ckennedy@sleepy.helios.nd.edu (chris kennedy)
Subject: Steiner's interview ability
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:26:24 GMT

Has anyone ever heard the steiners give a good interview?  I was always hoping 
that they would turn heel so that they could get a manager who would talk
for them .  I can't imagine that they will be able to generate much heat in 
non title fueds because they simply can't interview very well.

Chris

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From: marine@ils.nwu.edu (Colette Marine)
Subject: Re: GLOW QUESTION (RE: THE MOST GORGEOUS WOMAN....
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 08:02:53 GMT

***** Posting from a friend's account *****

In article <92342.132334ANFBC@CUNYVM.BITNET> ANTHONY    <ANFBC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>
>   Just wondering: who was Tina Ferrari's Tag-Team partner on GLOW?
>She had the most silicone-inflated chest i've ever seen! How in the
>world did she stand up, much else wrestle???
>
>                                        Anthony

That would be Ashley Cartier, a busty redhead.

Jared D. Brame

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From: sweide@uceng.uc.edu (Steven Weide)
Subject: HH I can see this coming
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 05:02:08 GMT

I can this this coming a mile away after listening to Sting talk about how
he had to wrestle twice at HH and how he had to just try to work as a team
with his partner, whoever it may be.  It will be him and Van Vader as a 
team at HH.  Vader attacks Sting during the match, therefore Sting and
Vader don't make it to the finals (setting up for Nepo-Boy to win).
Also this could be Sting's excuse when he gets beaten by Vader.

Steve
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Subject: Re: Chrispy WVR : Clash of the Champions XII - Mountain Madness
From: pmbarlow@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Pete Barlow... 'The Candy Guru')
Date: 20 Dec 92 21:42:25 -0500
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In article <85572@ut-emx.uucp>, chrispy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christopher Palacios) writes:
> The second in my barrage of reviews.  Expect at least 7 or 8 more in the
> next few weeks.  But for this review, I'll look at what was also called
> Fall Brawl '90.
> This Clash easily had the most matches that I can think of in any Clash.
> But, as you know, quantity does not make up for quality.  Let's take a
> look...
> 4) Nasty Boys vs. Jackie Fulton/Terry Taylor
>  
>    I've noticed that while in WCW, the Nasties showed they could really
>    work.  Along with Taylor, this was one of the better matches of the
>    night.  ***

Terry Taylor worked that match?  Fall '90... hmmm... he must have been straight
off of the Red Rooster thing...

> 5) "Wild" Bill Irwin vs. Tommy Rich
> 
>    Ugh.  How Rich became World champ, I'll never know.  He's got the
>    charisma of a fecal log.  The LOU THESZ PRESS?  Sheesh.  *1/2

You forget.  Rich only held the title for 5 days, a meaningless reign at best. 
And at the time, he was a good draw.  By the time THIS match came around,
though... what is it Gorilla says about sticking a fork in a guy?  Rich was
better off in Memphis fighting against Jerry Lawler.

> 6) Susan Sexton vs. Bambi for Women's world title
> 
>    Is Bambi Jake Roberts's sister?

No, that's Rockin' Robin you're thinking of.  Robin beat Sherri Martel for the
WWF Women's title in Paris, and then promptly faded into oblivion with it.

>    The crowd figured, how could you boo someone named Bambi?  Thus, Sexton
>    was cast as the reluctant heel.  This match was OK, but now I'm spoiled
>    seeing Toyota, Moreno, Kimura, Kong, etc.  No heat from the crowd made
>    this an obvious time filler.  *3/4

No, I think Sexton was the heel anyway.  Whichever, here's how it goes...
women's wrestling in North America is an even BIGGER joke than men's wrestling. 
Remember GLOW?  The local Fox affiliate in Dayton showed it for 3 years at
11.30 Saturday nights opposite SNL, just so everyone would have something to
laugh at.  Besides Jon Lovitz, that is.  And yes, I remember Tina Ferrari and
Ashley Cartier quite well, thanks... with gifts the size of Cartier's, it's
very, VERY hard to forget.  The point is, Americans don't take women's
wrestling nearly as serious as they do men's wrestling... you figure it out.

TCG, pb.
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From: ventura@camelot.bradley.edu (Brian Wawczak)
Subject: Re: there's a name
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 17 Dec 92 07:50:13 GMT

In <4333.1693.uupcb@spacebbs.com> mark.stevens@spacebbs.com (Mark Stevens)  writes:

>To: slucas@grant.ncd.com (Steve Lucas)

>SL>To correct you a little, Adonis joined the WWiF as the Queen bee gag.  He tagged
>SL>with Murdock but not as his usual biker style self , but as the queen.  The only

>When Adonis and Murdock held the WWF titles Adonis was still presented
>with his leather/tough guy persona.  He was this way in WMI and WMII.
>It was between WMII and WMIII that he began gaining weight and wearing
>the pink tights.

This is incorrect. First, Adonis didn't wrestle in 'Mania 1. Second, Adonis was in his gay persona in 'Mania 2 when he defeated Uncle Elmer with a knee drop
off the top rope. His change in persona occured around Fall '85. 

 
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From: mb20@prism.gatech.EDU (BRANCH,MICHAEL B)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Battle Bowl, Lethal Lottery
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:01:17 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <92350.083525WELACK@MIAMIU.BITNET> WELACK@MIAMIU.BITNET writes:

>   Let me add my name to the list of people that really like this
>   "Too Cold Scorpio". Everything but his name and the dancing at
>   at the begining of his matches that is. He uses alot of moves,

    Yeah, he *may* have already had the dancing thing, but I just
    assumed that it was probably a Watts ("We did 'em a favor with
    slavery") idea. The same thing as putting a "rap" song on the
    Slam Jam album for Ron Simmons, while the rest is all power
    chord, Michael Hayes crud songs...
    (btw - good one Watts, nice to see you're even further enforcing
     your 'no macabre cartoons here' attitude with a wrestling 
     theme song album. Though in fairness, that may be something
     pushed by the humanoids higher up...)


>   is aerial beyond belief for a NA wrestler, and just generally
>   seems to work hard, baring injury he is, IMHO, a superstar of

   The man is godlike. And if this is an example of standard Japanese
   wrestling, then it's time for me to move East.

   Something else to be pointed out, incidently, is the HUGE pop Scorpio
   gets on his flying, at least here at the Center Stage tapings.
   The fans eat it up, no way would there ever be a problem getting
   over with the marks, hell, they loved Liger's stuff too.


>   Can anyone explain the push that Van Hammer continues to get?
>   He seems to generate no heat, can't wrestle, and his interviews
>   are pathetic. Is he Watts' illegitimate son maybe?

    It's probably simply because he's still under some sort of contract
    and they figure that they may as well get as much mileage as possible
    from his moronic video and whatnot. Jon "U.S. Male" Kincaid ran into
    his friend, Hammer, the other night and congratulations were offered on his 
    win over Vader in the arm wrestling competition; to which Hammer smirkingly
    replied "yeah, right." His attitude being how would they expect anyone
    to believe that he could really beat him.             
    He's okay...



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From: jnelson@iastate.edu (Jeremy F Nelson)
Subject: RE: the vote on Phil
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 06:12:09 GMT

It just hit me after reading some people's posts that this whole deal
about Phil is not understood by all fully.

Do not be mistaken.  Phil is reading this group now, and probably always
has been.  What we are deciding is not whether he can ACCESS the group
but whether we will allow him to POST to the group.

It is not likely he will stop reading the group, regardless of the vote.

I know a lot of you know this, and I apologize to you, but I believe
there are people here that may have some misconceptions about the vote.

Jeremy Nelson

ObWrestling: Thanks to all who replied to the FAQ... Keep the comments 
             coming!  I will post it next on or about January 18, when
             I get back from break.
 
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From: rusbasan@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Bob Rusbasan)
Subject: Re: there's a name
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:32:38 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.033643.26605@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gjh2j@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Im a Joker Im a Smoker Im a Midnight Toker) writes:
>In article <1992Dec17.123948.19977@vela.acs.oakland.edu> jmwojtal@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Wojo) writes:

>>Adonis and Murdock left the WWF before Wrestlemania I, so Adonis wasn't there.
>>Adonis did come back, and slowly started being transformed before Wrestmania
>>II, where he started the "gay" act.  

>Wait a second, wasn't Dick Murdoch involved in the fairly big Battle Royale
>at Wrestlemania I?

The was no battle royal at WM I.  It was at WrestleMania II.  I don't
believe Murdoch was in that battle royal, but, even if he was, it would
still fit the timeframe and plotline presented above.

Is it just me, or does anyone else here think this group should be
renamed rec.sport.failing-memories? ;-)

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From: tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Thanatos)
Subject: Re: George "The Animal" Steele
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 06:58:17 GMT

In article <11DEC199210050273@utarlg.uta.edu> b706zdj@utarlg.uta.edu (Jason Brown) writes:
>at a high school in Michigan???? It's true!!!!!!! 
>
Yup.  Harper Woods, if memory serves.  I'll never forget looking up in the
grandstands, and seeing a WEIRD looking guy staring down at us.  I asked my
friend who he was, and he told me it was George.  I then asked him where 
his trunbuckle was.

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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Re: RR/WM9 THE Prediction.
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:17:50 GMT

In <1992Dec15.140303.9587@ac.dal.ca> jsteeves@ac.dal.ca (Jason Steeves) writes:

>..but what would happen if Flair beat Hart before the Rumble and Flair
>won the Rumble? Wrestlemania wouldn't have a main event?

>(yes, I know it's stupid :-)

But this IS the WWF, so it's very possible....

Kinda like last year:

"The main event for Wrestlemania 8 will be Ric Flair defending his WWF
title against the Immortal Hulk Hogan!!"

The following week:

"Whatta bombshell!! Now we have *two* main events. In one, Ric Flair
is now defending his WWF title against Randy Savage, and Hulk Hogan
will be facing Sid Softball."

It's kinda sad, actually. We waited the entire 1980s to have the
definitive Hogan-Flair match, came *this* close to it, and then it got
all screwed up.

So a Flair-Flair WM9 would fit in perfectly <ahem>

Michael
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From: dkempste@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David N Kempster)
Subject: WWF vs. WCW
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 04:56:51 GMT

I intended to do a longer article on this subject but let me get the ball 
rolling. Earlier this year almost everyone who posted loved WCW and hated the 
WWF. There was good reason for this. WCW appeared to be headed in the right 
dirrection and WWF seemed dirrectionless. The latest gimmicks for WWF - Papa 
Shango and Rocko. Then Watts starts forcing his son down our throats and 
replace names with nobodies and puts on a bad H.H. followed by a bad Clash and 
now everyone thinks WCW is dead. The WWF on the other hand is making progress 
and moving in the right dirrection. The sheets love WWF now and by extension so
do we.

I think that the pessimism for WCW may be well founded but the optimism for WWF
is not. The big signs of change for the WWF are making Flair submit to Hart and
bringing Backland back.
As far as Hart winning - it was a despiration move. They were having trouble 
with Hellwig (the Ultimate Warrior) and they had to get a big face over. Hart 
was the only candidate.
As far as Backland coming back - he wasn't the best when he was young and he is
barely tolerable now.
The latest pay per view had 2 good matches and the rest all got votes for the 
worst match (because they were all bad). Even one of the good matches would 
have been bad had the Warrior not quit and out of despiration they made Perfect
a face. The Hart-Michaels match was a repeat of a series of matches that had 
happend all summer long. Granted, it must have been better for the World title 
on a pay per view but it still looks like rehash to the marks.

Comments?
From: tr3@doc.ic.ac.uk (Tahzeeb Rauof)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: UK wrestling tapes
Date: 15 Dec 1992 21:59:28 -0000
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: oak27.doc.ic.ac.uk




 Hi all, I've been reading r.s.p.w for about a month now and I think it's about
the best thing here on our news network. Thanks to all the guys who post over
the results as well as the inside info.. All we get here in the UK is the 
complete WWF scene and one hour of WCW jobbing as well as PWI issues that are
4 months old!
 
 I think your predictions are pretty good, personally I'd love to see HH fight
the nature boy at WM9 just because I had to sit through 6 years of wondering if 
it would ever happen..

 By the way, my brother (yes it runs in the family!) says that the Snake was
thrown out of the WCW because an irate fan tried to shoot him and the gun
actually went off at the tv taping..Anyone confirm??
 

 Just one more thing before I go for this inaugral posting. I have read  that 
you guys across the pond exchange tapes of some of the classics only I expect 
they're all on NTSC.. Does anyone have any stuff (preferably classic NWA) on
pal secam such that it can be used in the UK? Maybe anyone who has can e-mail me
or if there are any readers from UK out there get posting ti RSPW..

 Many thanks

Tahzeeb


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From: awhitton@bnr.ca (Alan Whitton)
Subject: Re: Flair vs. Ramon
Reply-To: awhitton@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:52:36 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.125358.9514@ac.dal.ca>, jsteeves@ac.dal.ca (Jason Steeves) writes:
|> In article <ventura.724202103@camelot>, ventura@camelot.bradley.edu (Brian Wawczak) writes:
|> > Does anybody else out there see Razor somehow turning on Flair before WM9?
|> 
|> No.
|> 
|> > This is shaping up the same way The Undertaker/Jake Roberts feud came about.
|> 
|> Really???? So you mean that they're going to bring Hart's wife into this,
|> have Flair constantly badmouthing her (I don't count the one incident
|> on the interview for much), and have Ramon stop Flair from hitting husband
|> and wife when they return to the dressing room after a match? Yeah, it
|> could happen... and monkeys might fly outta........

Relax, chill out... I don't think this as outlandish as you might think. I don't
think it will happen (MHO) but it shows some thought. 

Christmas Cheers,
Alan Whitton
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Date: Tuesday, 15 Dec 1992 19:06:25 EST
From: <IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: who is clown, what us with ultimate?

1.  The clown is Phil Stromer.

2.  The Ultimate Warrior is now in WCW going by his real
    name- Johnny Gunn

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From: Terry.Baldridge@launchpad.unc.edu (Terry Baldridge)
Subject: Re: WWF Changing face
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:09:07 GMT

In article <8eLyVB8w164w@jaflrn.UUCP> Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP> writes:
 
>Well, Lawler has always been the king, but the idea of a king in the WWF, 
>especially with the pompous air Lawler has adopted, seems somewhat inane. 
                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^
I have been watching Lawler for more years than I care to recall, and I
say that he always  had a pompous air about him.  ALWAYS.  Face, heel, or
in between somewhere, it doesn't matter, he has always been a smart ass.
 
>--Don

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From: jmp14@beech.cs.uofs.edu (John M Petren)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: WWF Superstars
Date: 20 Dec 92 20:19:29 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing Sciences

In article <1h0u7gINNpa8@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, steveso@wpi.WPI.EDU (Steven C Sousa) writes:

|> Crush v. Dark Destiny
|> 	Heenan, "Does he tear open his presents or just crush them?"
|> 	Crush wins with cranium squeeze, but not after wishing us all a merry
|> 	Chirstmas (in hawaiian, of course)

    After the match, Vince said that Crush was a master of devastation.  It would have
    been cute if he had said "demolition" by accident.  The true masters of devastation
    are obviously the Bev Bros, since they used to be the Destruction Crew.  I'd like to
    see Crush get a push.

|> Big Blob Man v. Barry Hardy
|> 	Heenan, "I hear they're coming from the whole world to be in RR."
|> 	Clown ties string across the aisle, causing Blobster to trip after
|> 	winning with side slam. I don't know, people may not like McMahon
|> 	turning the WWF into a circus, but the clown's funny.

     I disagree.  Will someone please go to a house show and remind Matt Borne that he
     used to be a respectable wrestler and the clown gimmick is not worth what Vince is
     paying him.

|> Yoko(z,s)u(m,n)a v. Richard Myers
|> 	McMahon tells us Blob Man has injured his wrist due to clown's prank.
|> 	(let's hope it's career ending)
|> 	Oh yeah, sumo guy won with butt drop. If he could do some of the moves
|> 	E. Honda from Street Fighter 2 does, I might care.

       Yeah, like the hundred fists speed chop!  Maybe Vince can turn Kamala into Blanka,
       Virgil into Balrog, and bring in someone to do Guile. ;-)
|> 
|> That loser new interview guy interviews "Santa's helpers", really the 
|> Bushwhackers.
   
    Someone please fire this guy.  He's worse than Bischoff.

|> I hate the 'whackers, but their version of "Santa Claus is Coming
|> to Town" had me ROTF. "You'd better watch out. You'd better not pick your
|> bloody nose. You'd better eat all your sardines, or you'll get a bloody 
|> licking." As long as I don't have to watch them wrestle.

    I'd rather see them wrestle.  Actually, I'd rather dig out my wrestling tapes when
    the *Sheepherders* wrestled the Fantastics.  I've been waiting for years now for the
    Whackers to turn heel.
 
|> Damien Demento v. Kerry Davis
|> 	Demento does rude awakening, but finishes with a knee drop. 

    Much canned heat for the breath mint guy.

|> Money Inc. v. Lavern McGill & Chris Hawn
|> 	Two jobbers with women's first names in one show. What's up?
|> 	Lavern falls to Million $ dream, makes $100.

    And then must "pay" the IRS $100 in taxes.
|> 
|> Promos: WWF video games.

    Don't buy the Genesis Super WM game.  Word on rec.games.video is that it sucks.
|> 
|> 						Steve Sousa

John Petren
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From: joepet@sprockets.engin.umich.edu (Joe Petrow)
Subject: Re: Where is the Iceman!
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 15:44:07 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: joepet@sprockets.engin.umich.edu


In article <1fd2c4m@rpi.edu>, lucasg@isaac.its.rpi.edu (Greg E. Lucas) writes:
> In article <Bz096u.6BJ@news.udel.edu>, rschwabe@ravel.udel.edu (Robert Josep Schwabe) writes:
> |> I think the title says it all, where is Iceman King Carson (The spelling
> |> may be off because I never saw his name in print, I only saw him wrestle.)
> |> He was the best wrestler that I have ever seen in a small wrestling organization(but I don't get a chance to see it that much anyway)
> 
> <rest of original message deleted>
> 
> I have no idea what happened to the Iceman, but I do know his name was Iceman King Parsons. 

The Iceman, formerly known as Steve DiSalvo, is now wrestling as Too Cold
Scorpio in WCW.
 
Joe Petrow
joepet@engin.umich.edu
From: murray@husc10.harvard.edu (Brendan Murray)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Gorilla Monsoon reference on AMC!
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:28:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Dec14.132816.18477
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

I was knocked for a loop about ten minutes ago when there was a Gorilla
Monsoon reference on today's episode of All My Children!

While explaining to her ex-boyfriend Brian Bodine that their relationship
is over and that she no longer thinks about him, Haley Vaughn told him to:

"Stick a fork in us, honey, we're done!"

Is this a phrase that is in common usage or do you think that the writers
picked it up from Gorilla?