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From: meena@top.cis.syr.edu (Meenakshi Arunachalam)
Subject: Re: A boy's head was shaved for speaking Malayalam in school
Organization: Syracuse University, CIS Dept.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 17:38:21 EDT

In article <1992Jul27.164239.17934@wuecl.wustl.edu> sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara Pandian) writes:
>    A boy's head was shaved....
>   -----------------------------
>       I found this shocking news in
> grandfather and this news hit all the
> local newspapers. The headmaster of the
> school did not refuse that the boy was
> punished, but he rather pointed out that
> it is mentioned in the school rules that
> Malayalam is not allowed inside the
> campus and that all the parents are well-
> informed of that rule before putting their
> kids into school for their education. 
	[rest of the article deleted]

There are some schools[in madras] where you will have to pay some fine if you 
speak in Tamil anytime other than a Tamil class. Talking in English 
is compulsory in many English medium schools in Madras. In the school 
where I did my higher secondary, some students used to have special tuition 
for Tamil. That could also have been due to the reason that it was a 
matriculation school till 10th and later on they jump to the state board 
level in Tamil. This also resulted in many students taking French for 
second language, to improve their total. In most of these cases, it is
either the individual's interest in Tamil/ the family's affinity towards
Tamil- which is passed on to the kids, that makes them learn Tamil.

regards,
-meena

>    I am surprised at why one's mother       
>tongue is a taboo in these private schools.
>I can't help agreeing with Sankarapandi that
>such schools "alienate" students from their
>society. Such schools are not many in number
>in Tamilnadu, but they may be more in number
>in Kerala ( 100 % literacy ? ). 
>    Now, students are in a dilemma. Their
>parents want to put them in good English 
>medium schools for getting good jobs or
>crossing their state to continue their studies. 
>But such schools seem to "alienate" them from
>their society .  


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: shridhar@andy.bgsu.edu (A. N. Shridhar)
Subject: Accommodation in SF Bay area
Keywords: need, room, starting mid-August
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:53:02 GMT

I will need a place to stay starting about the third week
of August, in the bay area, of course. If you have a room
available for rent, or know someone who does, I'd appreciate
it if you could get in touch with me.

Also, is there a "ba.housing" newsgroup in existence?
If there is, I have been unable to subscribe to it.
Any other suggestions? Thanks.

A. N. Shridhar
shridhar@andy.bgsu.edu
(419)353-9168
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Olympics Opening Ceremony
From: J.Ainikkal@massey.ac.nz (J. Ainikkal)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 01:52:11 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Keywords: Rich Country Poor Man/Womyn
Summary: soc.culture.indian
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c

Just want to refute what Bos Costas (Thankfully we do not get Bob
making ignorant statements here in NZ) and some Indian politicians
say .... "India is a poor country".

India is not a poor country. I am not sure about our GNP but it is
among the top 20 countries in the world (could someone give
authentic evidence on this). What we do have though is a lot of
poor people in the country. We are a rich country with poor people. 

John Ainikkal
'Aotearoa' - Land of the long white cloud
From: sumeet@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (sumeet)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: SPONSOR DEVELOPS COLD FEET - Advice, please !!
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:25:32 GMT
Reply-To: sumeet@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (sumeet)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: sumeet@happy.cc.utexas.edu

Hi, netters. I'm posting this question on behalf of a friend of mine (name 
withheld) :

"What should a guy do when his sponsor backs out of an agreement to finance
him, after one year of study in the US ?"

The student has no assistantship, and barely earns enough per month, on 
minimum wages, to meet his monthly living expenses.

Please post your replies on this net, or send them in to 
sumeet@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu

Cheerio.
Sumeet K. Hingorani
From: brahmbha@baboon.ecn.purdue.edu (Hitesh N Brahmbhatt)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Equality in India: Talk at MIT
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:44:54 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network



Could you post the proceedings of the discussion on the net for the benefit
of other readers not able to attend it ?

Thank you,

Hitesh N. Brahmbhatt
From: ratan@thebe.rutgers.edu (Santosh Ratan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: New group
Date: 28 Jul 92 03:56:24 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Jul27.213310.8682@cse.uta.edu>, sunkad@cse.uta.edu (Venkatesh Sunkad) writes:
> 
>    I am finding that nowaday every one is trying to form a group
> 
>  of their own, based on their language.  On this context, I propose
> 
>  why don't we Kannadigas form a group of our own, called soc.culture.Kannada.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Because we Kannadigas are not so stupidly selfish. We can discuss our
Kannadigas thing right here in this newsgroup. Forming a group will
prove that we Kannadigas are selfish and furthermore it will serve no
useful purpose. 

Look in the past. We madracees formed a group called
          "soc.culture. madaracee"   or something.
now we madarasis don't have any new news group to form to. There is no
purpose in life left.  But one good thing happened, we madrasees are
now not making any hue and cries on this newsgroup about our rights of
forming a new newsgroup.


JUST KIDDING. GO AHEAD with your plans and MAKE MY DAY.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: raja@comlab1.eng.ufl.edu ( Raja Banerjea  )
Subject: Syracuse
Reply-To: raja@comlab1.eng.ufl.edu ( Raja Banerjea  )
Organization: U of Florida  Engineering Computer Support Facility
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 16:47:27 GMT

Hi!

	One of my friends wants to apply to the  Syracuse University. He is in the Advertising department and would appreciate if he could get these informations 
	
	1.Name and phone number of faculty  in advertising department.

	2.A realistic estimate of graduate assistance.

	As he is planning to apply for the Fall and time is short any  help will be    appreciated. 
			Bye
				Raja




Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: dinesh@civic.ece.cmu.edu (Dinesh D. Gaitonde)
Subject: Will anybody put me up in Orlando/Florida for a few days?
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University
Distribution: soc
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 20:17:01 GMT


I need to be in Orlando, Florida for a research review, from Spetmeber
1 to September 5. Would a kind soul, please put me up for the
duration?

Thanks
Dinesh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: guest@voyager3.sdsu.edu (Guest User)
Subject: Re: Fair to India ?
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:43:39 GMT

aparna@mipos2.intel.com writes:
: 
: 
: In  Re: People of Indian Origin and Indian culture
: 
: the point was made that Indiands settled abroad finally pump 
: back more money than was spent on their education.
: 
: India did not only invest money in their studies - she invested
: dreams. Money she could ill afford was directed towards subsidi-
: zing their education. Money contributed as taxes came even from
: those struggling for their meals.
: 
: What value can u put on that money ? A "long term" view was
: taken and that kind of education was made provided.
: 
: The argument runs that many in India are not doing much - were
: justifications needed ? For arguments' sake, if that is granted, 
: - do two wrongs ever make a right ? 
:
 So much injustice is done in the name of reservation.  Many
 belonging to the so called 'forward' classes struggle to 
 get an education they deserve against all odds. Especially in
 states like Tamil Nadu where about 78 % of the seats are 
 reserved, the so called 'forward' classes struggle to get an
 education. After getting a degree, there is a struggle again for
 heavily reserved government, public sector job. They get to a
 point where they are simply disillusioned about recognition for
 merit. They see incompetent persons getting education and jobs
 soley on the basis of caste. The government zealously protects
 the system of reservation doing lots of injustice to people
 who crave for recognition of merit. So, when they get the
 chance they come to countries like the US, not just for money, but
 more important for recognition and justice which the Indian 
 government does not give. Let the Indian government stop this
 mindless system of reservation and  recognize merit, the drain of
 talent will decrease. It is a pity that India is losing talent it
 cannot afford to lose, but the remedy lies within. People must 
 have the confidence that they can rise up in life if they have
 talent not a caste certificate. This is precisely what this
 country offers. This country assures you can rise, if you have 
 talent. CAn India make that promise ? After all, how can you
 expect someone to stay after you have discouraged and disillusioned the
 person at every stage in life ? Create equality first.

 S

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: srini@ecf.toronto.edu (KANDALA SRINIVAS)
Subject: Re: Question on IIT Kanpur/IIT Delhi
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:50:33 GMT

In article <l708h7INN2j1@utkcs2.cs.utk.edu> ghatak@cs.utk.edu (Subhendu Ghatak) writes:
>Hi friends,
>  In which department is Dr. K R Srivatsan of IIT Kanpur please ? 
>  I believe he is in charge of the ERNET project there.
>
I think i can answer this question. He is at IIT Kanpur.
The address is 

Dr. K R Srivatsan, Dept. of Electrical Engineering, IIT Kanpur 208016

His email address is

krsr@kalyan.ernet.in 

Hope this helps.


>  Also what is the PIN code for IIT Kanpur and IIT Delhi please ?
				^^^^^^^^	^^^^^^^^^
				208016 		No idea!
>
>  Thanks.
>
>  Please reply to ghatak@cs.utk.edu
>
>-Sincerely,
>-Subhendu Ghatak

srini
-- 
Blue Jays: 1992 World Champions (I say this every year. I hope they
make it this time)
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Wednesday, 29 Jul 1992 19:17:47 MST
From: <ASUGM@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject:       WANTED: Info. on Employment in Singapore

I am seeking employment in Singapore. If any one can give me any info.
about employment in Singapore, I will really appreciate it.
Please post your reply either to the newsgroup or e-mail me at:
           ASUGM@ASUACAD.BITNET
Thanks in advance. I will post the summary of replies to the group.

Umesh
From: gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Olympics Opening Ceremony
Date: 28 Jul 1992 00:29:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University

In article <1992Jul27.165310.29984@tamsun.tamu.edu> rgopu@cs.tamu.edu (Rangarathnam Gopu) writes:
>In article <26JUL199217032359@rosie.uh.edu> eleea48@rosie.uh.edu (Thomas, Thomas) writes:
>>It was a great shock to me to hear the NBC commentator describe India
>>during the opening ceremonies as a "poor nation, without synthetic playing
>>surfaces".
>
>		The impact of a letter to the editor of any magazine or
>	newspaper is infinitesimal. Even if it is published. But when
>	a newspaper or a magazine gets a horde of letters, they are bound
>	to take some notice. It is only individuals who make up the mass.
>	Each of us must make a sincere effort to improve the image of 
>	India, and to prevent the spread of false information about her.
>
>		I'll put my money where my mouth is. I'll post copies
>	of future letters that I write to mags, papers etc. Hope that
>	inspires some others to take similar action. For starters,
>	I'll shortly post a copy of the letter I am sending to NBC
>	on this very subject. 
>
>	Gopu

Gopu,

Do one more thing please. Post the list of Astro turfs in india on the 
net and also the address of NBC HQ & whereever the mails are due. Also,
could someone please quote the NBC commentator as verbatim as possible.
I want to write a letter to them too. I hope all others will follow suit.

regards,
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: vineet@coho.ECE.ORST.EDU (The Real Ghostbuster;;;;)
Subject: Re: The remarks..but it is such a poorest nation..
Organization: Oregon State University, Corvallis
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:48:25 GMT

In article <92208.164145ASRIN@ASUACAD.BITNET> Vegesna Srinivas Raju <ASRIN@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
>Hello Friends
>
>Yesterday I was annoyed by the remarks made by the NBC commentator in the
>parade of nations during the Olympic opening ceremony. The remark that India
>is so poor that it can't afford to built a hockey field turf for its players
>by a American National Network Commentator shows that the west still sees India
>as the same old sanke charmers nation.
>
>Eventhough Indians have been coming to the west since many years, the same old
>categorization of Indians continues and something should be urgently done to
>change the view of the outside world on India.Can't we Indians in America do
>something to change the this view...and can't we do something to know our
>discontent on such remarks to NBC...
>
>As far I know, India has three astro turf surfaces in India..in Delhi, Lucknow,
>and some other city.
>

      The bitter truth is that India, the second most populous country in
      the world has not won any gold medals in any other discipline besides
      field hockey. And our last gold medal was in the 1980 games which were 
      boycotted by the western block.  Not a very enviable performance for
      a country of our size.  On the other hand smaller nations such as 
      Kenya, North Korea, Morrocco, Ethiopia (countries that are much 
      poorer than us) have won more gold medals than we have.

      It dosen't matter how many synthetic tracks we have, or how much
      money the government( sic !!) pours into sports.. As long as we don't
      show results( in terms of medals) , we cannot expect to command 
      respect in the international arena.

      that, my friend is my two cents worth.....
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 16:07:13 EDT
From: Krishin Asnani <krish@ans.net>
Subject: Satyajit Ray's APU Trilogy



As part of it Summer Foreign Film Festival '92, Symphony Space , loctaed at
95th Street
and Broadway will be showing Satyajit Rays "Apu Trilogy" on Sunday, August 2,
1992.
The times are:

4:00 PM Panther Panchali
6:15 PM Aparjito
8:30 PM The World of Apu

Admission is $10 (for all 3 films).
             $6 for 2nd and/or 3rd film only.
From: shankar@sgi.com (Shankar Unni)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Olympics Opening Ceremony
Date: 27 Jul 92 19:36:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <1992Jul27.173526.23703@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> kgprasan@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Hello There Fella) writes:

>On a side note, does anybody have any information about the 
>facilities built for the 82 Games in N.Delhi.

1. Jawaharlal Nehru Stadium.
2. Cycling Velodrome (near ISBT).
3. ??? Gymnasium (Gymnastics, badminton, volleyball..) near the velodrome.
4. A swim center.
5. Olympic Village, of course.


last but not least: a large number of flyovers :-/.
--
Shankar Unni				E-Mail:	shankar@sgi.com
Silicon Graphics Inc.			Phone:	+1-415-390-2072
From: shamik@cs.umd.edu (Shamik Sharma)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: The olympics and Bob costas
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:32:39 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <829@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala) writes:
>venugop@athena.cs.uga.edu (Gopakumar VENUGOPALAN) writes:
>: 
>:     here is what 
>:     the tailpiece of a report by AP said on the match between
>:     Ramesh Krishnan and Jim Courier.......
>:     It is reproduced verbatim as it appeared in the Atlanta
>:     Journal and Constitution.
>:     "Courier said the heat didn't bother him as much as Krishnan
>:     did.The junkballer from India,ranked No.200,puts less pace on his 
>:     shots than anyone else on the ATP Tour,Courier said.
>:     'We call him the surgeon on the Tour ,Courier said.He slices and 
>:     dices and that's what he was doing today.
>

The Washington Post says :

     " Courier showed good form in defeating India's Ramesh
       Krishnan ,  6-2,4-6,6-1,6-4., even though he was
       confounded at times by Krishnan. " We call him the
       'Surgeon' on the tour," said Courier. "He slices and
       dices , and that was what he was doing today. He's
       very difficult to play  "

To me, that sounds like praise.

>  [ ... reference  to  sending third rate players to Olympics ]

 
I believe Krishnan is the  highest ranked Indian player
on the tour right now, but I may be wrong. Expecting 
him to win a medal is optimistic but not  ridiculous.
 
>: 
>:     gopa

Regards,

shamik
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kasinadhuni@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: test...
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 00:04:17 GMT

Test..ignore
From: prabhak@cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: title-change police, bandwidth police, etc. (Was: Re: Racism and
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:36:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Jul21.133644.5054
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.

Uma M Subramanian) writes:
>
> <Vitriol spewed on 'Title-Change Police' effaced :-)>
>
>Uma Subramanian
>

When I went to school in India (REC, Trichy), we had a placement
officer (for TRECkkies, Maj. Srinivasan, an epitome of gentlemanly
behavior), who had this quote from Dag Hammarskjold on his door

  "Gentleness can force more than force can move anyone to gentleness."

Apparently this theory is not universal quantified.

After Ms. Uma S. expressed her anger at my comments on changing titles
for, what in my opinon, was no good reason, I sent her email
apologizing for any remarks that were found to be wanting in civility.
No reply was forthcoming and the issue is still raging.

I participate in the discussions on the net for 3 reasons:

  1. To get to know people,

  2. To get to know different perspectives, ideas and valuable
     technical knowlede (off other nets)

  3. To hone my writing skills, as one's writing ability 
     rapidly deteriorates if there is no continual practise. (To
     confess, I have these ambitions of one day writing a column for
     even a teeny-weeny newspaper :-)) 

What I cannot deal with are unappeasable people for whom net is
a source of continual strife and belligerent reserve is the
behavior standard. I can do without the top three, but I cannot
do without pleasantness. Have a good day!

Satya Prabhakar 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: nkramesh%harpo.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Nanda Ramesh)
Subject: Re: Are we an intolerant people?
Date: 26 Jul 92 16:56:49 MDT
Keywords: India, Youth, Intolerance.
Organization: University of Utah

In article <1992Jul26.175950.22110@athena.cs.uga.edu>, venugop@athena.cs.uga.edu (Gopakumar VENUGOPALAN) writes:

|> >-- 
|>      Men and women can never be friends     (*)
|> 	because the sex part                  \---/
|> 	  always get's in the way.	       |#|
|>           - "when harry met sally"	        V

|>   One unrelated question ,is that signature that i have copied above
|>   a phallic symbol or is it the urino genital organs of a woman or 
|>   a combination of the two and does it have any significance.
|>   regards
|>   gopa

Unfortunate that I have to defend it on this thread.
No, it does not stand for anything. I just made up
some figure and did not think that it resembled anything!

Funny that you connected it up to.....
Maybe I should become a abstract painter? :-)

nanda

-- 
Nanda Ramesh	     Men and women can never be friends    ........
University of Utah,	because the sex part            **************
Salt Lake City.		  always get's in the way.	    .....
nkramesh@cs.utah.edu          - "when harry met sally"	  'edited out'
From: vvhr@troi.cc.rochester.edu (V. Vohra)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Info. needed regarding proposed Institue by Apple computers in Hyderabad
Date: 30 Jul 92 02:49:31 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

Hello everybody,
		About 5-6 months back, I had read somewhere
about Apple computers planning to set up a training institue in
Hyderabad in the near future . It was going to be a diploma/degree
course in computers. Admission was to be based on an all india competitive
exam as is the case for admission to most of the institutions.
Qualifications required, I think were a bachelors.......
	Does any one of you have any more info. on this. I would be
thankful. Please mail your responsed to me directly at
		vvhr@db1.cc.rochester.edu
		vvhr@troi.cc.rochester.edu
				Vivek Vohra
From: gayathri@ec.ecn.purdue.edu (Gayathri Krishnamurthy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Hinduism and Equality ? re
Summary: Re:Hinduism and equality
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:54:25 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Jul29.132215.4773@gw.wmich.edu>, x92nath@gw.wmich.edu writes:
> Hi readers,
> 	I used to read that Hindu religion believes that every human being
> is same, love for humanity and so many ideal statements...
> 	But now I find that, in our country it isnot so.  We do differentiate
> in people based on their cast, religion,status,profession,region,age and so
> many things.  At least in India I have never seen a Vice-chancellor of
> University sitting and eating with a custodian.  I think Americans are more
> free about it.  They don't need so called class of peon and bara sahib etc.

When you consider other religions, why look at only Americans ? What about
the class-conscious British or even the Southern Americans before the Civil
war (my source is "Gone with the wind") who were so class-conscious that they
wouldn't invite a "trashy white" or "new settler" to their parties ? How many
blacks get invited to the homes of white people even in this "progressive" 
decade ?? What about the muslims who also had and have class distinctions ? 
Maybe one shouldn't make sweeping statements.....
Gayathri.
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