HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cromwell@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: GEnie/Internet gateway?
Date: 15 Aug 92 17:23:59 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

>>Indeed, America Online does "charge" its users based on connect time.
>>With a number of different pricing plans in use at AOL, your costs
>>will vary, of course, depending on A: hourly charge, B: small message
>>sizes, C: monthly hourly usage in excess of pricing plan, and
>>D: the efficiency of the connection between your computer and AOL.

How about 2 more cents-I have used both GENIE and COMPUSERVE.  GENIE
didn't want to put a local access line into Lawrence, KS-almost
unbelievable. They thought that I should just call long distance and
pay them big bucks.  COMPUSERVE had a local line but cost me $50
dollars a month to do what I needed.  AOL charges me $5.95 a month
plus $5 for every hour over the first and I never spend more that $20
per month.  The internet access is not extra, and needless to say I am
a satisfied customer and will keep AOL as long as they don't try to
bilk me.
-- 
Rick 
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: 94fc@vax (CRAWFORD, FRONEFIELD)
Subject: how to do a sig?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Williams College Center for Computing
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:38:00 GMT

I wonder if someone could either post or email me about how a sig file works.
Does it only work when you post to a group or does it attach itself to the
end of any email you send?
Thanks in advance,

Froney

address: 94fc@williams.edu
From: sh666@selway.umt.edu (Wolverine)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Mailing GEnie, Compuserve, etc...
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:04:02 GMT
Organization: University of Montana

I don't know if this has been discussed already but....
Is there anyway I can mail my old AirWarrior buddies on GEnie through
Internet?  What about other services (prodigy, america online, Compuserve)?

							Curious,
							Wolverine
							sh666@selway.umt.edu
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: burchil@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Charles Andrew Burchill)
Subject: Update for Hytelnet for the Mac v 6.2.2
Summary: Update for Hytelnet for the Macintosh v 6.2.2
Keywords: internet hytelnet macintosh 
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 02:37:01 GMT

Notice of Upgrade to Hytelnet for the Macintosh.  version 6.2.2

This version will work over a network, and will be able to use
the IBM PC data files.  The numbering system and directory structure are the
same as the PC version.

If you want a copy of this version of Hytelnet please send a note to
Charles Burchill <burchil@ccu.umanitoba.ca>.

The complete set comes as a 560K binhex file so make sure that your
mail package will support mail of this size. It may be available from
access.usask.ca in the near future.  If you only want the HyperCard stack
please make that clear in the letter that you send to me.

Hytelnet comes as a binhex'd self extracting archive: Hytelnet for the
Mac.  You will need about 1.2Mb free hard disk space, HyperCard 2.x.
The archive contains Hytelnet, a hypercard stack that reads the raw
data files from Peter Scotts Hytelnet.  It also contains a 'Hytelnet
data' folder containing many folders with the Hytelnet data files (700+).

Modifications from the last version:
- Finder Events XCMD added to allow the use of some apple event to communicate
  with the finder. This is mainly used to open Telnet and TN3270 without
  having to worry about the name or location of the program.
- Configuration items have been moved to a configuration dialog.
- Using the Configuration settings the Telnet, and TN3270 applications can 
  have other names and be located in a variety of locations, along with the
  configuration files.
- A button has been added that will extract the site files from letters coming
  frmo the LIB_HYTELNET mailing list.  The headers will be stripped and the
  file will be saved in the appropriate folder with the name that occurs
  in the letter. The site names will be saved in a seperate file
  "New Site Names 'current date'". The site name lists are not
   automatically updated.

Binhex'd files may be unarchived using binhex 4.0, Stuffit, Compactor Pro,
Tickler and many other common archiving programs.


                   HYTELNET...... Program Description

HYTELNET is a utility that is designed to assist you in reaching all of the
INTERNET-accessible libraries, Freenets, CWISs,Library BBSs, & other
information sites by Telnet.  It is available for IBM PC, Unix, VMS and 
Macintosh computers.

-- 
Charles A. Burchill <burchil@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
    ,__o
  _-\_<,   Cyclist
From: sac@Apple.COM (Steve Cisler)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: IP in Africa?
Date: 22 Aug 92 03:31:40 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

troberts@guvax.georgetown.edu asked about IP connections in Cameroun.

In the INET proceedings from this past June, Pascal Renaud and Monique
Michaux of ORSTOM in Paris write about the RIO network that connects
Montpellier, France many of France's former colonies including Yaounde,
Cameroun. They are using UUCP running over X.25 lines. The installation
was put in in April 1992 (a portable Spark) and has a domain address of
yaounde.orstom.fr   For more info write Renaud <renaud@paris.orstom.fr>

I recommend the proceedings which can probably be purchased from the
Internet Society <isoc@nri.reston.va.us>.  People interested in
international networking are encouraged to join.  The next annual
meeting will be in S.F. California in June 1993.
Steve Cisler
Apple Library

Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: peterd@bunyip.com (Peter Deutsch)
Subject: Re: more info on WHOIS (was: Re: E-Mail to US Air Force Academy)
Organization: Bunyip Information Systems (the archie people)
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:14:31 GMT

In article <Bss7q6.9Ly@ef2007.efhd.ford.com> mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike  
O'Connor) writes:
> In article <1992Aug10.004658.6692@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
> peterd@cc.mcgill.ca (Peter Deutsch) writes:
> 
> :knows this, the person asking may not so I thought I'd also
> :mention that the whois service operated at nic.ddn.mil
> :does _not_ allow just just _anyone_ to register (the
> 
> What are the qualifications, then?  I was a student when I first got
> my NIC handle -- the stereotypical "nobody" in net-land.  


Sorry to take a while to respond to this, but I wanted to check with
my contact at nic.ddn.mil on this and it took me a couple of days to
get around to sending them a note. Here's what I received this
morning...

>   We discourage the registration of Internet users unless they are 
> contacts for a network entity.  NSF has stated that they  currently
> do not wish to support the cost of central registration of users.  We will 
> however, make a few exceptions if the user insists.  If suddenly we received
> a large number of request for user registration we would refer the problem to 
> NSF and DISA for a firm decision.  They might say NO Internet user 
> registrations. Hope this is what you needed.

Thus, yes some people are getting registered, but if it becomes a common 
practice it will be discontinued. Certainly there is no hope (or reason) to 
want to build a resource discovery service based upon such a centralized 
registry paradigm.


Hope this clarifies things for those I confused.

			- peterd
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: uds@parvathi.cs.wayne.edu (Seetamraju)
Subject: Science & Technology network ?
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit, MI
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:34:50 GMT


What is this science and technology network ?



Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: cfejm@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (John Miller)
Subject: Commercial nodes:  Advice, please
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 20:08:02 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University


Hi All,

I've noticed that address suffixes are edu, mil, and com.  These, I
presume, are "educational", "military", and "commercial".  What's the
procedure for a company to get a node established?  A for-profit, but
educational publisher (mine) has approached me about information.  They'd
like an internet association, and I promised to try and find out. 

Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance,

John

-- 
John Miller
Music Theory
Eastern Illinois University
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: sheth@cs.scarolina.edu (Vipul Arun Sheth)
Subject: commercial use of Internet 
Keywords: internet imp
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:31:17 GMT


Can a person use Internet for commercial purposes ?

If an organization charges its users for Internet access, is it
commercial or non-commercial ?

What are the policies regarding use of Internet ?

any help will be appreciated and i will try to post a summary.

please reply directly.

-Vipul Sheth
From: ajay@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ajay Shekhawat)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: Internet address book.
Date: 16 Aug 92 21:42:16 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University at Buffalo, Dept. of Computer Science

karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr) writes:
: >
: >[... many reasons why one cannot generate a "canonical" list of users
: >     deleted ...]
: 
: There's no need for a "canonical" list of sites, nor a "canonical"
: list of users.  What would be very useful, however, would be a server
: somewhere that given the name of a person who could receive email via
: the Internet would, with high probability, return at least one valid
: email address for that person. 
:
: <text deleted>
:


You might want to try the "netfind" service.
Telnet to bruno.cs.colorado.edu, and login as "netfind". No password
required.

Ajay

--
ajay@cedar.Buffalo.EDU

Center of Excellence for Document Analysis and Recognition
State University of New York at Buffalo.
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: xmpp@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Melody Paul)
Subject: Re: FTP Help Needed!
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:40:06 GMT

I need a list of FTP sites with available documentation about the
Internet services, I have ZEN art of the Internet, I need at least 9
other guides for new comeers on the Internet.


Thanks in advance.
-- 
Melody P. Paul			Office: 708/534-0200
Technical Editor		Fax:    708/534-2042
Educational Computing Network	Internet: xmpp@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu
University Park, IL 60466	BITNET:   xmpp@ecnuxa
From: dzubin@skorpio.usask.ca (Thomas Dzubin)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: How do you use the "post to Usenet by mail" service?
Date: 18 Aug 92 10:58:29 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: none


I'm losing this account in less than a week and I have recently heard
of a 'generic' service for posting to *any* Usenet newsgroup by EMAIL.
Can someone fill me in on the details?

My future Internet account only has read-only access to Usenet.

mail to: tdzubin@cue.bc.ca

Thomas Dzubin
tdzubin@cue.bc.ca
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: sam@csi.compuserve.com (Sam Neely)
Subject: Re: GEnie/Internet gateway?
Organization: CompuServe Incorporated
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 22:35:11 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.150743.26925@homebase.vistachrome.com> andy@homebase.vistachrome.com writes:
>doug@UC780.UMD.EDU (Deac Moo of the UGC) writes:
>>Time to bitch at GEnie managment. If Compu$erve can do this at no-cost,
>>somebody'd better clue them in accordingly.
>>			Doug
>>                               ******
>>   Net postings: Demonstrating the lack of quality psychotherapy in the world.
>
>May I respectfully point out that Compuserve does "charge" for reading
>or writing Internet mail.  Once you have exceeded your monthly allowance
>of ($9? Sam Neely should know) you get charged per message and/or per
>hour, depending on your pricing plan option.

There are two pricing plans for CompuServe members.  The mail rates
under the standard pricing plan is described below.

The alternative pricing plan is billed by connect time in one minute
increments, with no additional charge for sending mail to the
Internet.  For 1200/2400 baud access, this charge is $12.80/hr.

COMPUSERVE MAIL RATES FOR STANDARD PRICING PLAN

Your CompuServe membership of $7.95 per month includes an electronic
mail allowance of $9.00.  With this allowance you can send up to the
equivalent of 60 three page messages per month with no additional
charge.  Note: Each 2,500 characters is about one double-spaced page.)
This monthly allowance applies to both ASCII and binary messages. Your
remaining message allowance expires at the end of each month.

**The following is included in your monthly allowance:

 Send Mail (per message):*
 first 7500 characters            $ .15
 additional 2500 characters       $ .05

 Receipt Requested:
 per recipient                    $ .15

 Read/Download Internet Messages:**
 first 7500 characters            $ .15
 additional 2500 characters       $ .05

* The charge per message is multiplied by the number of recipients you
have chosen to receive your message. Surcharged messages, such a
Congressgrams, fax, telex, and postal are not included in the $9.00
monthly allowance.

** If Internet messages are deleted without reading or automatically
deleted by the system after 30 days, no charges are incurred.

NOTE: In general, you do not pay to read messages, except messages
received from Internet.

>
>-Andy
>
>-- 
>Andrew Finkenstadt       | Vista-Chrome, Inc.   |           andy@GEnie
>GEnie Unix Sysop/Manager | The Printing House   |    NIC Handle: AF136
>+1 904 222 2639 home     | 1600 Capital Cir SW  |   ...!uunet!rde!andy
>+1 904 575 0189 work     | Tallahassee FL 32310 | andy@vistachrome.com
>--------->  "Our OS which art in CPU... UNIX be thy name"  <----------

	- Sam
-- 
Sam Neely, CompuServe Incorporated                  +1 614 442 2089 (voice)
5000 Arlington Centre Blvd, Columbus, OH  43220     +1 614 457 0348 (FAX)
Electronic Mail:  InfoPlex: >CSI:SAM      Internet: SAM@CSI.COMPUSERVE.COM
Old food doesn't die.  It just goes bad.  -- General Chow (from Dinosaurs)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: gjacknow@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Greg L. Jacknow)
Subject: Looking for info on Cancer treatment
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 08:24:33 GMT

I am looking for information, preferably very up to date, on the treatment
of cancer.  Specifically lymphoma.  but any info would be of interest.

Greg Jacknow
gjacknow@gmuvax2.gmu.edu
gjacknow@gmuvax.gmu.edu
.


Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: cd651@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Wally L. Blume)
Subject: Re: more info on WHOIS (was: Re: E-Mail to US Air Force Academy)
Reply-To: cd651@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Wally L. Blume)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 00:22:21 GMT


In a previous article, karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr) says:

>In article <1992Aug13.161431.28155@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> peterd@bunyip.com (Peter Deutsch) writes:
>>my contact at nic.ddn.mil [wrote:]
>>
>>>   We discourage the registration of Internet users unless they are 
>>> contacts for a network entity.  NSF has stated that they  currently
>>> do not wish to support the cost of central registration of users.  [...]
>
>What exactly is the cost of central registration?  Five million entries
>of 200 bytes each would occupy just a gigabyte of disk, i.e. one 
>reasonable-sized file server (and some CPU cycles from that server
>to serve registrations and requests).
>particular data I want is in there.
>
>-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
>
   Gee thanks for volunteering , let us all know when you're on line. :)
-- 
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From: rjbarbal@athena.mit.edu (Richard J. Barbalace)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: USENET Backbone Maps
Keywords: Maps, Usenet
Date: 16 Aug 92 19:08:12 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Hi, all.
Thanks for the many replies on where to find Usenet maps.
Take care.
- Richard J. Barbalace
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: laurelh@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Laurel Hellerstein)
Subject: Re: how to do a sig?
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 22:23:56 GMT

In article <crystal.713801038@glia> crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:
>>
>That's apparently not ALL there is to it... you have to read it into what you are sending. It doesn't appear automatically.  At least mine doesn't, and I made
>mine the same way as stated above on my UNIX machine.
>

Talk to your system operator.... sig files are dependent on your mail
system.  On our system (ELM) you have to also go into your .edic file
and tell it where to look for your .sig file.  It's all system specific!



-- 
  %%%%%%%%%%%%---------------------------------------------%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
    Laurel Hellerstein,Ph.D             Laurelh@titan.ucc.umass.edu
    Manager, Housing Services           (413) 545-4638
    Cable Network                       FAX (413) 545-2232
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: panisset@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Jean-Francois Panisset)
Subject: Re: [REGARDING]:  Internet/Minitel Gateway?
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 12:39:40 GMT

In article <12AUG199211574978@cc.utah.edu> beezer@cc.utah.edu (BEEZER) writes:
>In article <THOMSON.92Aug12081926@fluky.mitre.org>, thomson@fluky.mitre.org (Duncan Thomson) writes...
>>Is there a gateway between the Internet and the French Minitel
>>network?
>
>I may be wrong, but I heard Minitel was being taken offline due to
>child pornography and a few other items.

Believe me, Minitel is still very active. Although the "Messageries Roses"
have come under fire lately, there are such a vast number of services
offered that it would be almost impossible to shut the system down.

Anyway, as far as Internet/Minitel gateways, I would refer interested
readers to the soc.culture.french FAQ which has a section on this (if I
remember well, it can be done but it ain't free).

JF

-- 
Jean-Francois Panisset                    
INET: panisset@mcrcim.mcgill.ca            
      panisset@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
UUCP: ...!mcgill-vision!panisset
From: slick@netcom.com (Martin Veneroso)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: Looking for info on Cancer treatment
Date: 17 Aug 92 14:06:23 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

gjacknow@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Greg L. Jacknow) writes:

>I am looking for information, preferably very up to date, on the treatment
>of cancer.  Specifically lymphoma.  but any info would be of interest.

I suggest you check with the good folks at alt.support.cancer for tips
on finding this sort of information.
-- 
Martin Veneroso
slick@netcom.com
Jung'f vg gb ln?
jneybeqf fhpx fjbeqf
From: billp@niagara.Tymnet.COM (Bill Putney)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Material Safety Data Sheets (SMDS) Avail.?
Date: 20 Aug 92 22:50:36 GMT
Reply-To: billp@niagara.Tymnet.COM (Bill Putney)
Organization: BT North America (Tymnet)
Originator: billp@niagara


I'm looking for a network resource for MSDS's.  There is a 
requirement to have access to these for people that are exposed
to hazardious materials.  When materials are shipped they generally
come with one sheet.  Of course those never get out to the people
who are actually exposed to them (not very reliabily anyway).  I
want to make these available on line but the task of typing these
all in to a system is a nightmare in the making.

- Bill
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: pmh2962@zeus.tamu.edu (Pat Hayes)
Subject: Re: how to do a sig?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Department of Meteorology, TAMU
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 16:29:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.004057.14250@u.washington.edu>, prospero@hardy.u.washington.edu (Don't look at me!!) writes...
>In article <lexier.713762954@sfu.ca> lexier@fraser.sfu.ca (Lyle Lexier) writes:
>>94fc@vax (CRAWFORD, FRONEFIELD) writes:
       ^^^
... uh, VMS?

>>>I wonder if someone could either post or email me about how a sig file works.
>>>Does it only work when you post to a group or does it attach itself to the
>>>Froney
>>>address: 94fc@williams.edu
>>Hello Crawford,
>>     What you do is create a file called ".signature" .  In this file put a
>>message such as the following:
>>vi .signature
  ^^^
.. uh, Un*x

>>==============================================================
>>=  I am the captain of the Klingon Fleet - ready to kill the =
>>=  enterprise.  Input target please.                         =
>>=  94fc@williams.edu                                         =
>>==============================================================
>>GOOD LUCK!!!
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>|  Lyle Lexier        | There should be no discrimination against any person   |
>Um, doesn't he need to do something with chmod as well to make it world readable
>or is automatically that way if it is .sig or in his root directory? Another
>question: Does it make a difference what directory the .sig file is in?
>Prospero
---------
Howdy!
	Here's my nickel's worth.  If you're on a VMS/VAX, using VNEWS to 
readmail, put the .signature file in your root directory.  Of course, use
good 'ol "edit" <EDT> to make the .signature file. Also, with VNEWS/VMS, 
you <probably> won't have to worry about junk like "chmod" <never could
get our Sun to see my Un*x .sig>. 
	There's someother stuff you can define in your login.com file for VNEWS,
too.  Like the other folks said -- .sigs and newsreader stuff are highly system-
dependent.  Good luck. 
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Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: bzs@ussr.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: Newspaper on line, Information Agencies
Organization: The World
	<KRAWCHUK.92Aug11125453@phecda.cs.sfu.ca>
	<1992Aug12.182032.7897@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 00:22:34 GMT


>Can anyone give me an email address or contact that I can get a hold
>of to see if I can get a feed for Clarinet?   I am interested in setting
>it up at our university...

clarinet@clarinet.com ought to do it.

--
        -Barry Shein

Software Tool & Die    | bzs@world.std.com          | uunet!world!bzs
Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 617-739-0202        | Login: 617-739-WRLD
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: sheth@cs.scarolina.edu (Vipul Arun Sheth)
Subject: Send e-mail to fax, telex etc..
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:18:28 GMT


Is there any way to send e-mail messages to a fax # or a telex # ?

If not on internet, how about commercial networks like Compuserve etc. ?

Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

Please reply directly.

-Vipul Sheth
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