From: cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Stereotyping
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:25:54 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <94504@bu.edu>, kane@buast7.bu.edu (Hot Young Star) writes:
> In article <11830@optilink.UUCP> cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:
# #You can't understand.  That tells me a lot about how warped you and
# #the rest of the homosexual community are -- that you don't understand,
# #for example, how offensive the drag queens are.  The drag queens are
# #an insulting parody of femininity.  It's not even just an exaggeration
# #of it, but an insulting parody of it.  It is equivalent to Amos and
# #Andy, being done by white guys in blackface.
# 
# That's just one interpretation. One might equally conclude that people
# who think drag queens are offensive are really saying that feminine
# qualities are bad for men to exhibit. Which is why I've been saying all
# along that misogyny and homophobia are more closely connected than most
# people would like to admit.

The drag queens aren't "feminine" -- they are an insulting parody
of femininity, in much the same way that bull dykes are an insulting
parody of masculinity.

# Then there are the subtle distinctions between drag queens, female imper-
# sonators, and transvestites. Visit a psychologist to find out the myriad
# ways that people express their gender desires through social conventions
# like dress. It's not as black and white as you might think.
# 
# I have a feeling that you regard femininity (note: NOT WOMEN) in terms of
# delicateness, objective incitement of desire, passiveness, etc. So are you

No.  Wrong.

# protesting that some (NOT ALL) drag queens make a little satirical game
# of this, exaggerating makeup, costume, flirtation? That while biological

It's an insulting parody of women.

# #Stop trying to force straights to associate with
# #you, and the crusade against homosexuality can stop.
# 
# That's just a pipe dream. OCA [in Oregon] and recent activity in Colorado
# have shown that anti-homosexual backlash goes much, much further. It will

Excuse me -- my crusade can stop.  Keep in mind that the homosexual
community's enthusiasm for fascism (AB 101, AB 2601) does bring about
a backlash.

# NOT, I repeat, NOT, stop with "live and let live". Their goals are ultimately
# to curtail free speech, prohibiting through constitutional means any non-
# negative mention of homosexuality, bisexuality, or people who engage in,
# advocate, or depict such experiences and practices.
# 
# So, Cramer, Mr Anti-Censorship, Mr Free-Speech, are you prepared to help
# defend our rights to free speech?

I'm not helping OCA, as tempting as it is.  I would probably vote against
OCA's initiative, if I lived in Oregon, because it's the wrong place to
put something like that.  But as long as the homosexual community 
demonstrates its enthusiasm for child molestation, you can't expect
me to do one damn thing to help you.

# kane@{buast7,astro}.bu.edu (Hot Young Star) Astronomy Dept, Boston University,
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