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From: salehi@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu (Masoud Salehi)
Subject: slow autocad
Organization: College of Engineering, Northeastern University
Distribution: alt.cad.autocad
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:45:14 GMT


I have recently moved from version 10 to 11 on my 486/50  with an ATI ultra graphic card. I have
also installed the ACAD driver that comes with the card for release 11, 386. The problem
that I have been experiencing is that once in a while after issuing a command the screen
freezes for about 5 seconds, no cursor appears on the screen during this period and after 
that everything comes back to normal. I am not sure whether the problem is with the driver
or with the installation configuration.

Has anyone else had the same experience? What would you suggest to solve this problem?

Thanks

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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Friday, 20 Nov 1992 12:09:40 EST
From: <IO20585@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re: AutoCAD R12 Windows extensions.

AutoCAD Release 11 for Windows is pretty slow on a 486/33 with 8MB ram.
I doubt AutoDesk will do another version of AutoCAD under the Windows
16 bit API.  I would think that the next Windows version will be under
the Win32s API, which is not publicly available yet.  I would guess
that AutoDesk will to a version under Windows NT (for intel machines) first.
I've heard AutoDesk has a beta version of Release 12 for NT running now
under the beta version of Windows NT.
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: putnam@grits.msc.cornell.edu (Albert M. Putnam)
Subject: HPGL to DXF in PERL available 
Keywords: HPGL DXF PERL
Reply-To: putnam@msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Materials Science Center
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:04:17 GMT

I have available a PERL program to convert
HPGL to AutoCAD dxf format (hpgl2dxf.prl).

Why PERL? - It was available at our site, and PERL is reasonably easy
		to obtain for any platform.
		I wanted transparent buffer management (N/A in C).
Why DXF? - There is a program out there (A very nice C program
		called HPGL2SCR by William Palmer) 
		that converts HPGL to AutoCAD script
		but, on our platform anyway, script input 
		is unacceptably slow and DXF format is preferable.

On an IBM 520 workstation this PERL program can convert 
a 50K HPGL file in about  20-30 seconds to a DXF file that is about 150K. 
Then AutoCAD V11 can "DXFIN" that file in about 5 seconds.

The program should be fairly easy to expand to include new entities,
and there is a sister PERL program that converts HPGL to script
(a la HPGL2SCR) that includes a larger fraction of the HPGL object types.
If one were brave one could convert the programs to C with a little
bit of I/O buffer management coding.

The program has a serious bug involving the label (LB) HPGL command.
If a ";" is part of the label string then things could go rather awry.
I actually have this vague recollection about an old HP7220 that I
used years ago that DID go awry if there were delimiters or
control characters in the text - so maybe this is a feature?

If you would like a copy send me e-mail.
If you have a format preference (uuencoded, shar, etc.)
I can TRY and send it as you wish.
If I get overwhelmed I will try and have the programs archived somewhere.

Albert Putnam
putnam@msc.cornell.edu

Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: dlb@controls.ccd.harris.com (Doug Bennett)
Subject: Jumping Cursor
Organization: Harris Controls Division
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:17:55 GMT

I am running Autocad v11 on Sun IPX's (6) with Summagraphics MM II 1201
tablets.  On some of the machines, the cursor jumps every few seconds.
By this I mean when I go to pick an entity the crosshairs on the screen
suddenly move about 1/4" and then return to the original position.  This
does not happen only when I am picking an entity, but rather at any time.

Is anyone else experiencing this?  Does anyone have a solution?

Doug Bennett
d.bennett@ccd.harris.com
From: goren@vms.huji.ac.il
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: INFORMATION ON PADS-2000
Date: 19 Nov 92 11:38:34 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem


Hello!
  I need any information on software for PCB call PADS-2000. Any experience?
Comoparing to P-CAD.
          THANX
              S.GOREN

My email address: GOREN@VMS.HUJI.AC.IL
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:48:41 EST
From: <U3C@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: 3-d viewer(?)

I am looking for a viewer for 3_D autocad drawings. i.e. I need a program so I
can send to other scientists(who do not necessarily have autocad) drawings whic
h they can call up, view, rotate, and zoom. I want to be able to send this free
and not have to pay royalties to do  so. Is there any freeware, shareware, or e
ven something I could purchase which would allow me to do so.
                                       Thanks
                                             Danny
From: wilmshurst@reg.triumf.ca (WILMSHURST, PETER)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: AutoCAD R12 Windows extensions.
Date: 19 Nov 1992 08:03 PST
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: reg.triumf.ca
Keywords: AutoCAD, windows
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    


	Hello,
		I'm looking for information on the Acad R12 Windows Extensions.
	I was told by my local rep. they have not been written yet.  Are they
	going to be written?  If so, when?  In the meantime, will the R11
	windows extensions work?  Hopefully someone has this knowledge
	(ie: someone at AutoDESK) and will post an answer to these Q's.

	After seeing AutoSketch running under windows, I am eagerly waiting
	to purchase the Acad R12 Extensions.

	Thanks for your time. =:)

	Pete

	email: wilmshurst@reg.triumf.ca
	       wilmshurst@erich.triumf.ca
From: wolf@Autodesk.COM (Wolf Herda)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re: Problem: Release 12 & Calcomp plotter
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:29:30 GMT
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA

raja@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Narayan Raja) writes:
<> 
<> Hi, ACADemicians,
<> 
<> Has anyone else encounterd the following problem? --
<> 
<> Calcomp plotter, used to work fine with Release 11,
<> has trouble plotting with Release 12.  The plotter
<> says "Clipping image" (or something similar), while
<> AutoCAD says "Data ignored."  The border gets plotted
<> but not the rest of the figure.  Ideas and suggestions
<> would be greatly appreciated...
<> 
<> Please EMAIL me at   raja@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu.
<> 
<> Thanks in advance,
<> 
<> 
<> 
<> Narayan Sriranga Raja.

The cabling for R12 plotters has changed significantly to the cabling
of R11 plotters, especially in the area of flow control.  So first
check to make sure that your cable conforms to the cable diagram in
the R12 IG (Installation Guide).  Also I'd be interested in knowing
which model you are using.

Hope this helps.



Wolf Herda
wolf@autodesk.com
From: esutg@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr M J Flynn)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Autolisp
Date: 19 Nov 1992 22:14:01 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk

At present I am doing a final year project, for which I am programming in
Autolisp. All my work has to be done at the University. I would prefer to be
able to do it at home, Unfortunately I do not have a copy of Autocad on my
machine at home. Are there any Autolisp interpreters available shareware,
P.D.,etc.. or even available commercially (which do not cost 2,500 pounds) ?


Thanks in Advance

M.Flynn
From: rrenzett@zeus.calpoly.edu (Roberto Bertini Renzetti (aka "Bert Bert Renzo"))
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Help with ADS_ENTNEXT/ADS_SSGET
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:01:36 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

Hi !

	I need to access an attribute value of a block but I was not able
to do it using the combination of ads_ssget and ads_entnext like the ADS 
manual suggests... To test the hint given by the manual I wrote the following
function, list_dxf, that (theorically) would print out all the dxf codes
of the entity selected. If the entity cointains sub-entities (in my case
its a block with attributes), I should be able to see the dxf code and value
of the attribute.

	HOWEVER... the program crashes (after printing "checkpoint 1" and before
printing "checkpoint 2")... And it crashes with style ;-)  
Autocad prints out "Internal error: SCANDR 5" and kicks me out of the 
drawing editor.

	Did anyone ever used ads_ssget/ads_entnext to succesfully retrieve
an attribute's value? Am I doing something totally wrong? (I enclosed the
listing ahead).

Any hints or comments will be REALLY appreciated... Thanks!!!

Roberto Renzetti
(rrenzett@nike.calpoly.edu)


PS: While trying to figure out the problem, I did several experiments. I found
out that ads_ssget and ads_entsel return different addresses (ads_name) for
the same block. If both return the ads_name of the main entity why are the
ads_names different?

PS2: Ooops ! Almost forgot to say: I'm using ACAD r. 11 on a HP 730 under UNIX. 




/*****************************************************************************
   list_dxf()

   Prints the DXF codes of a selected entity.
*****************************************************************************/
void list_dxf()
{
  struct resbuf *objrb, *temprb;
  ads_name objname, ssname;
  ads_point pt;


  ads_printf ("Please select an object (ssget): \n");
  /* The user will be asked to select the object by point and click */
  if (ads_ssget(NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL, ssname) != RTNORM)
  {
    ads_printf(" Didn't find anything with SSGET...\n");
    return;
  }

  ads_printf("Checkpoint 1\n");
  /* this should loop over the subentities */
  while ( ads_entnext (ssname, objname) == RTNORM)
  {
    if (ads_usrbrk() ==1)
      break;

    ads_printf("Checkpoint 2\n");
    objrb = ads_entget (objname); 
    
    ads_printf("Checkpoint 3\n");
    if (objrb != NULL)
    {
       ads_printf("Checkpoint 4\n");
       for (temprb = objrb; temprb != NULL; temprb=temprb->rbnext) 
         printdxf(temprb);  /* same printdxf as in the ADS manual */
    }
    else
       ads_printf ("Didn't find anything within loop of entnext...\n");

    ads_relrb(objrb);
    ads_relrb(temprb);
  }

}
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Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:00:25 PST
From:         "David G. Booth" <COM1BOOT@UCSBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      AutoCAD .DWG conversions

*** Reply to note of 11/19/92 11:28
While in the autocad drawing editor, use the DXFOUT command, it will
then prompt you for file name etc. That's it.
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: putnam@grits.msc.cornell.edu (Albert M. Putnam)
Subject: HPGL to DXF
Keywords: HPGL DXF
Reply-To: putnam@msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Materials Science Center
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:52:10 GMT


Is there a program that converts HPGL files to DXF format (v10, v11, v9)?
It must be portable source that will work on ANY machine that
can cope with that particular language.
I.e. must be written in a portable (ANSI?) C, LISP, Pascal, Fortran, 
Lex, Perl or some other HLL.
DOS executables or UNIX binaries are of practically no use because
I want the program to work on Sun's running AutoCAD V10,
IBM RS6000's running V11 and 386/486 machines running V10 through V12
with DOS or Windows.

I already know about the HPGL2SCR program at wuarchive.wustl.edu.
It will not run on the UNIX boxes, and only produces .SCR files.

Albert Putnam
putnam@msc.cornell.edu

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Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 10:59:53 +0100
From:         Frans.Rip@CGI.RPV.WAU.NL
Subject:      LARCH-L: Landscape Architecture list

PLease spread the word about this new list. I am sure a number of GIS- and/or
CAD using landscape architects would like to discuss landscape subjects by email
   .
Frans Rip, Wageningen Agr. U. , The Netherlands
...............................................................................
From:   IN%"zooey@suvm.acs.syr.edu"  "James F. Palmer" 17-NOV-1992 21:04:11.58
LArch-L:    An Electronic Forum for Landscape Architecture

The LArch-L is dedicated to the academic needs of landscape architecture.  It
is anticipated that LArch-L will become a forum for a wide range of topics and
serve a diverse group interested in landscape architecture.  The CELA Board
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create an effective network among those interested in Landscape Architecture
education and research.  Examples of possible uses for LArch-L are:

1.  Discuss issues and ideas of interest to landscape architects, such as:
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    *  how to fulfill our ethical and social responsibilities

2.  Listserv's offer an opportunity to ask for help and/or advice from a
    broader cross section of landscape architects than is represented at any
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LArch-L only requires access to Bitnet or Internet--it is otherwise free.  It
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we make of it.  To become a member, simply send an email message to:

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that only says:

SUBSCRIBE  LARCH-L  your first and last name

For more information contact James F. Palmer by phone at 315/470-6548,
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Drive, Syracuse, NY 13210.
From: wolf@Autodesk.COM (Wolf Herda)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re: Autocad and Summagraphics tablet problems
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:19:29 GMT
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA

kelson@ais.org (David Lewis) writes:
<> 
<> 
<>   I have autocad 12 here and am having problems with getting my
<> summagraphics tablet to work with it.  I tried another tablet and it
<> wont work either.  If I go back to 11, it works fine, and if I switch
<> to a mouse it works fine.  I called my dealer and he said there was
<> a reported problem with the tablet driver but said he couldnt find
<> the updated on on compuserve.  He said the file was called VG386.zip.
<> Does anyone know anything about this?  If this IS correct can someone
<> get the driver and upload to an FTP site?
<> 
<>   Thanks
<>    --David
<>

There have been fixes for the summagraphics tablet in c1 (a bugfix release)
and there have been additional fixes made to the driver, which, I'm assuming
should be on CompuServe.  I'd recommend trying this.  Also, check your
cabling against the R12 IG.

In situations like this, it would be more helpful if you indicate which
tablet/model, driver version, which platform, and be specific as to
"wont work" (ie, no crosshairs, crosshairs won't track, buttons don't work,
locks-up, etc.)



Wolf Herda
wolf@autodesk.com
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: varkki@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Varkki George)
Subject: Re: CRC in AutoCAD .DWG files
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:21:47 GMT

what, pray, is a CRC?

R. Varkki George
-- 
Department of Urban and Regional Planning  | E-mail: varkki@uiuc.edu
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign | Tel:    217.244.7059
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: masuda@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Masuda Kazuyoshi)
Subject: Re: CRC in AutoCAD .DWG files
Organization: Research Institute for Mathematical Sciences, Kyoto, Japan.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:23:11 GMT

> Does anyone know what CRC algorithm is used in AutoCAD Release 11 and 12?

  There are many types of data --- entity, layer definition, ltype
definition, etc... --- which consists of real data and 16-bit CRC.
  For n-byte sequence of data (stored in buf[]), CRC is calculated by
the following function calc_crc():

      1 	unsigned calc_crc(buf, n)
      2 	unsigned char buf[];
      3 	int n;
      4 	{
      5 	    int i, j;
      6 	    unsigned crc = 0xc0c1;
      7
      8 	    for ( i = 0 ; i < n ; ++i ) {
      9 		crc ^= *buf++;
     10 		for ( j = 0 ; j < 8 ; ++j )
     11 		    if ( crc & 1 )
     12 			crc = (crc >> 1) ^ 0xa001;
     13 		    else
     14 			crc >>= 1;
     15 	    }
     16 	    return crc;
     17 	}

	NOTE:	We can do it more quickly by replacing line 10-14 with
			crc = (crc >> 8) ^ crc_tab[crc & 0xff];
		(of course we must initialize crc_tab[] in advance).

and (n+2)-byte sequence:

	n bytes of data
	CRC & 0xff	(lower byte)
	CRC >> 8	(upper byte)

makes up one record of data.

  For CRC-checking for a record of length n (n-2 bytes of data
followed by 16-bit CRC), we have only to check whether the value of
calc_crc(buf, n) equals to 0.  Because following conditions are
equivalent:
	(1) calc_crc(buf, n) == 0,
	(2) calc_crc(buf, n-2) == buf[n-2] + (buf[n-1]<<8).

  Here is a sample program that tests CRC of all records of entity
data in DWG file. (Each records corresponds to one entity in ENTITIES
SECTION in DXF file.) It will show one example for how CRC is used in
DWG file.

	#include <stdio.h>

	unsigned char buffer[1000];

	unsigned calc_crc(buf, n)
	unsigned char buf[];
	int n;
	{
	    int i, j;
	    unsigned int crc = 0xc0c1;
	    for ( i = 0 ; i < n ; ++i ) {
		crc ^= *buf++;
		for ( j = 0 ; j < 8 ; ++j )
		    if ( crc & 1 )
			crc = (crc >> 1) ^ 0xa001;
		    else
			crc >>= 1;
	    }
	    return crc;
	}

	main(argc, argv)	/* argv[1]: dwg file */
	int argc;
	char **argv;
	{
	    FILE *fp;
	    long begin, end;
	    int n;
	    if ( argc == 1 ) exit(0);
	    if ( (fp = fopen(argv[1], "rb")) == NULL ) {
		perror(argv[1]);
		exit(1);
	    }
	    fseek(fp, 0x14L, 0);
	    fread(&begin, 4, 1, fp);	/* Beginning of ENTITIES data */
	    fread(&end, 4, 1, fp);	/* End of ENTITIES data */
	    fseek(fp, begin, 0);
	    while ( begin < end ) {
		fread(buffer, 8, 1, fp);	/* Header of this record */
		n = buffer[2] + (buffer[3]<<8);	/* Length of this record */
		fread(buffer+8, n-8, 1, fp);	/* Rest of this record */
		if ( calc_crc(buffer, (buffer[0] == 0x12 ? 8+2 : n)) != 0 ) {
		    /* NOTE:
		     * The record with buffer[0] == 0x12 is very exceptional.
		     * It rarely occurs. Don't pay too much attention for it.
		     */
		    printf("CRC error\n");
		    exit(1);
		}
		begin += n;
	    }
	    printf("done.\n");
	    exit(0);
	}

----------
Kazuyoshi Masuda (masuda@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp)
Kyoto University
Japan
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:32:47 EST
From: Paul Kenepp <PLK1@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject:    Kedit 5.0 and AutoCAD 10

I am trying to use kedit 5.0 as my editor with autocad 10 to edit
autolisp files.  I want to use a summasketch tablet both as the
autocad pointer and the microsoft mouse in kedit.  I am successful
in getting into kedit and back to autocad only with "set mouse off"
in my kedit profile.  I have the microsoft and summa drivers for
the tablet but when I return to autocad with "set mouse on" and
successfully using the pointer in kedit my pointer 'hangs' in autocad.
I've used a .bat file in my base autocad directory to reset and turn
on/off MS mouse and autocad pointer.  Everything works fine until
I return to autocad where I loose my cross hairs pointer.
Anybody have any insights on this one?    Much appreciated.......
Paul Kenepp   PLK1@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
From: IS80441@UDLAPVMS.BITNET
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: shared memory error
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:14:00 GMT
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X-VMS-To: IN%"AUTOCAD@OHSTVMA.BITNET"


        I am using autocad v. 11 in a Sparc Station. When I try to load a large
      ADS aplication there appears this message:

        Unable to obtein shared memory
        Xload Fail

        In some terminals there is no problem (they can load) but others show
   this message.

        The manual don't talk about this.

        If you have an idea of what is happend please help me.


        Thanks

        Humberto Servin
        is80441@udlapvms
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: kelson@ais.org (David Lewis)
Subject: Autocad and Summagraphics tablet problems   
Organization: UMCC
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:10:17 GMT



  I have autocad 12 here and am having problems with getting my
summagraphics tablet to work with it.  I tried another tablet and it
wont work either.  If I go back to 11, it works fine, and if I switch
to a mouse it works fine.  I called my dealer and he said there was
a reported problem with the tablet driver but said he couldnt find
the updated on on compuserve.  He said the file was called VG386.zip.
Does anyone know anything about this?  If this IS correct can someone
get the driver and upload to an FTP site?

  Thanks
   --David
From: freden@sofya.math.byu.edu (Eric M. Freden)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: PostScript driver wanted
Date: 19 Nov 1992 20:21:22 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Distribution: world
Reply-To: freden@sofya.math.byu.edu (Eric M. Freden)
NNTP-Posting-Host: sofya.math.byu.edu

    Is there a driver I can buy (or copy if it's public domain)
that will write an Acad drawing file to a PostScript file? I
have a 486 connected to a MIPS network that speaks PostScript
but not Acad.
                               Thanks,
                                Eric
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: raja@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Narayan Raja)
Subject: Problem: Release 12 & Calcomp plotter
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 06:36:34 GMT


Hi, ACADemicians,

Has anyone else encounterd the following problem? --

Calcomp plotter, used to work fine with Release 11,
has trouble plotting with Release 12.  The plotter
says "Clipping image" (or something similar), while
AutoCAD says "Data ignored."  The border gets plotted
but not the rest of the figure.  Ideas and suggestions
would be greatly appreciated...

Please EMAIL me at   raja@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu.

Thanks in advance,



Narayan Sriranga Raja.


Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: marandta@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Thomas A. Marandola)
Subject: Autodesk
Summary: Connecting with Autodesk
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:11:54 GMT

	My question is how I can get in contact with A person
at Autodesk, I can't get their e-mail address because they
"are not directly connected" that's what netfinder told me.
The person I am trying to get in touch with is Laura London.
I beleive she is working with the education end of Autodesk.  Any help would be great!
			Thomas Marandola
			marandta@craft.camp.clarkson.edu