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From: mingus@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Damballah Wedo)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Red Holloway (was Re: Whateverhappenedto...Gato Barbieri?)
Date: 13 Nov 92 18:22:45 GMT
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Organization: The Poto Mitan in the Houmfor

> wjh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (william.j.hery):
> >What about Phil Woods, Charlie Parker, Red Hollaway?
> 
> Woods is certainly not a main influence. He is a fine musician who I
> personally find kind of boring. But that's my taste. Bird, of course,
> virtually everyone here will admit is great. I'm sorry to say I don't
> know enough about Red Holloway to comment--what can you tell us about
> his music?

Red Holloway is a fine blues/R&B tenor man, but it's a bit weird to hear him
mentionned in the same breath as Bird or even Phil Woods. The only album of his
I know is:

Anderson, Ernestine - When the Sun Goes Down            (Concord Jazz 1985, LP)

which is wonderful, but hardly counts as role model material....
-- 
Marcel-Franck Simon             	mingus@usl.com, usl!mingus

	" Papa Loko, ou se' van, ou-a pouse'-n ale'
	  Nou se' papiyon, n'a pote' nouvel bay Agwe' "
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Subject: Re: Favorite Fusion Album of All......
From: Karl Nordstrom <KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 10:43:51 EST
Organization: Penn State University


milst1@cislabs.pitt.edu (Martin I Lewison) says:
>
>I've always considered Steely Dan ... to be fusion artists too, but
>I've omitted ... for fear of controversy.

Hey lets be controversial.  If Steely Dan isn't fusion, then what are they?
If they arn't fusion then what other band is in the same category?
From: bweiner@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Benjamin Weiner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Bill Evans
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:16:27 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

There was a Bill Evans album reissued (on LP, maybe CD) in about 1988 
called "You're Gonna Hear from Me."  I can't remember who, if anyone, else
was on it, or what the tunes were, but it was a really nice album.
I sometimes look for this in reputable record stores, but never see
it.  Can any one of you identify it?  Maybe it was withdrawn and 
came out differently on CD, or something.

Thanks,
Ben
From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Jazz/Bach fusion?
Date: 11 Nov 92 13:59:30 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

Bach is probably the "classical" composer whose works are most adapted to
a jazz setting. It must be something about the simple yet perfect harmony
and counterpoint of JS Bach's music which makes it so desireable for jazz
artists. One fairly obscure example of this is the Thomas Gabriel Trio's
Bachjazz. Its very nice; in general the pieces start off with the Bach
played straight up on piano, which then leads into a jazzy piano trio.

-rob
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From: rstump@itchy.geog.albany.edu (Roger Stump)
Subject: Re: "Shakil's Warrior"?
Organization: Syracuse University
Distribution: world, rec, usa
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 17:46:21 GMT

In article <1e0p0dINNh0c@smaug.West.Sun.COM> jimh@pongo.Eng.Sun.COM (jim hori) writes:
>
>I can't find "Shakil's Warrior" and wonder if anyone knows
>anything about this release.
>
This is a fairly recent David Murray release on DIW (I think it's actually
Shakill's Warrior).  Don Pullen plays organ.  An excellent record.


-- 
Roger W. Stump
University at Albany
rstump@itchy.geog.albany.edu
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: Coltrane Recordings
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:01:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.041047.2679@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> wjh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (william.j.hery) writes:
>As for selling OM back--I've found that sometimes something that seems too
>"far out" for me is just something I haven't learned to appreciate yet.
>Listening to more Trane might lead to an understanding of recordings like
>"OM," so in the future, you might just put something like that aside for
>a while to see if you "grow into it." You might find yourself shopping for
>"OM" again some time.

That's right.  Ascension, OM, and Japan Concert all sound very mellow to
me now, there is a certain level where everything is happening at a
smooth and peaceful level. 

With Trane, all roads lead to Interstellar Space.

Jeff
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: don't look now
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 16:51:36 GMT

Bravo has been airing the BBC production BIRDLAND.  Last week featured
Steve Coleman.  This week, they had the other Coleman.  Yeah, Ornette.
And Cassandra Wilson.  Ornette played Kathelin Gray and Spelling the
Alphabet with his new Prime Time, the one with Badal Roy on Indian
percusion and the keyboard.  I am guessing that this was taped earlier
this year, I know he was touring England sometime then.  They were
sounding fine.

Unfortunately, either my cable company has a bad feed for Bravo, or
Bravo doesn't have good broadcasting equipment, or the production was
shoddy, because the sound wasn't too good.  (Probably a little of all 3)
But still, it is great to see Ornette.  If you see the program BIRDLAND,
set your tape recorders.  This is the calibre of musicians they are
having.

Jeff
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From: traiger@cheshire.oxy.edu (Saul Traiger)
Subject: Re: Bill Evans -- documentaries, writings, bios
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:32:08 GMT


In article <1992Nov9.012556.2074@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> wjh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (william.j.hery) writes:
>ph14@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Pei Hsieh) writes:
>>Does anyone know of any documentaries, biographies, or writings
>>by or about Bill Evans?  I am especially interested in Bill Evans
>>the intellectual, his philosophies, etc., but anecdotal info
>>about his life in NYC, college years at Southern Louisiana State,
>>childhood in NJ, or anything like that would also be of great
>>interest. 
>
>There is an hour long video with Evans brother that might go into some
>of that; I haven't seen it, so I don't know. I've seen it advertised
>in downbeat (probably from Rhapsody Films).

I've seen the video, and it's well worth watching, both to give you a
sense of the Bill Evans of the early sixties and also because the
discussion between the two brothers is intelligent and peppered with
examples. I rented the video at Tower Records in L.A. for 50 cents. 

:-----------------------------------------------------------------------*
: Saul Traiger                                                          : 
: Associate Professor of Philosophy             e-mail: traiger@oxy.edu :
: Occidental College                *-----------------------------------*
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: Whateverhappenedto...Gato Barbieri?
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:05:28 GMT

Gato had some good stuff before he did Last Tango in Paris.  That seems
to be the cutoff line.  I saw him live in around 1976.  It was pathetic.
But some things he has done in the 60s are good.

Mosaic is supposed to be issuing The Complete Don Cherry on Blue Note
next year.  That has some good Gato.

Jeff


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From: rob@xyzoom.info.com (Rob Lingelbach)
Subject: Strat signed by Raitt: $$?
Organization: Altruistic Intentions, Hollywood CA
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:18:48 GMT

I just got returned home from an auction held by the "Friends of the
River" in Santa Monica, to raise money to preserve wild and scenic
rivers.  Bonnie Raitt supported the auction (as did Graham Nash and
David Crosby) by donating a signed Fender Stratocaster.  I picked it
up for $400--I believe list price (unsigned) is $650, so I think I did
pretty well.

Does anyone know what price such guitars usually fetch at auctions?

The guitar donated by Crosby and Nash was an Alvarez Anniversary model
6-string acoustic, signed by CSN.  It went for $475...There was also a
Strat signed by each member of Genesis that went for $500.   An old
-- 
Rob Lingelbach KB6CUN | 2660 Hollyridge Dr LA CA 90068 213 464 6266 (voice) 
rob@xyzoom.info.com   | "I care not much for a man's religion whose dog or 
robl@netcom.com       |  cat are not the better for it."  --Abraham Lincoln
From: acosta@smaug.Eng.Sun.COM (Joe Acosta)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: MILES DAVIS
Date: 11 Nov 1992 20:50:16 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, LA , Ca.
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In article <1992Nov11.135837.6954@doug.cae.wisc.edu> burger@sphinx.ece.wisc.edu (Dick Burger) writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.185602.21999@mlb.semi.harris.com> jphillip@comanche.ess.harris.com writes:
>>I want to add some Miles Davis classics to my cd collection. Please
>>post some recomendations ( both old and recent).
>>
>
>my favorites:
>   MD & the Modern Jazz Giants
>   Kind of Blue
>   Sketches of Spain
>   Miles Smiles
>   Tribute to Jack Johnson
>Dick Burger
>

Some of my favorites
    Milestones  ( a must !)
    (with Coltrane, Cannonball, Wynton Kelly, Paul Chambers, Phily Joe Jones)
    Four and More 
     (with quintet Wayne Shorter, Herbie Hancock Tony Williams, Ron
     Carter)
    Seven Steps to Heven 

			Joe Acosta
From: milst1@cislabs.pitt.edu (Martin I Lewison)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Barry Miles on CD?
Date: 9 Nov 92 06:09:15 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Nov5.000000.27468@news.cs.brandeis.edu> ahouse@hydra.rose.brandeis.edu (jeremy john ahouse) writes:
>I used to have a "great" album by Barry Miles on 
>record called "Fusion Is" (I think).  Has anyone seen
>Barry Miles on CD currently.  Also does anyone know
>what he has been doing?
>
>	thanks
>	
>		-jeremy


Wow, I never thought I'd hear that name again.  I think I had the same 
album, before I sold all my vinyl.

It was a really cool album, really heavy 60's "cool man" influence.
Let's see, Pat Martino and John Abercrombie played on that, as well as 
Lew Tabackin.

I saw Lew Tabackin a few years ago in Minneapolis and I asked him about that
session.  He said he remembered recording the album, but never actually
heard the album!  He said he had no idea where Barry Miles was these days.
Neither do I, but it would be cool if his stuff was reissued.

-Martin
From: jordan@mothra.rose.hp.com (Jordan Levin)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1992 18:56:46 GMT
Subject: Re: CONCERT: Dixie Dregs West Coast Assault [USA]
Organization: HP Networked Computer Mfg. Operation
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote

In rec.music.bluenote, ouij@triples.math.mcgill.ca (Luigi Perrotta) writes:

    The dixie dregs (Steve Morse, Rod Morgenstein, T. Lavitz,
    Dave LaRue and Jerry Goodman (of Mahavishnu fame))

    West coast assault is
    as follows: (venues unavailable at this moment) 

    Nov 13th  Santa Cruz
              San Jose
              San Francisco
              Los Angeles
              Fresno
              Ventura
    Nov 19th  San Diego


    Be there :-)

    -- 
    				ouij@math.mcgill.ca

Has anyone heard anything more on this (i.e. actual dates and places)?

Jordan

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From: elelko@nuscc.nus.sg (Free Man)
Subject: soundtrack by yellowjackets
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 09:01:57 GMT


was there one soundtrack from the star trek movies, done by
yellowjackets ? am curious as to the music .. any comments and info ?
i'm interested in getting a listen.

rgds, 
k.o. looi
national university of s'pore
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Saturday, 7 Nov 1992 13:22:16 CST
From: <U33963@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Django on CD/thanks for recommendations

My gratitude to those who posted recommendations on this list (or to me directl
y) on Django cd recommendations (and related information).

Renato Barahona
Department of History
Universitity of Illinois at Chicago
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From: jgthomas@crchh420.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (John Thomas)
Subject: Braxton in Dallas
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:29:37 GMT

Anthony Braxton is slated to appear with the ensemble VOICES
OF CHANGE early next March at SMU here in Dallas!  VOICES performs
avant-garde classical music regularly.  Not sure if it's definitely
going to happen though as although they are advertising the 
performance already on programs and such, someone told me that
Braxton has not definitely agreed to appear.

I am not sure what the program will include but will find out
details as they become available...
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From: stovall@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Steven Stovall)
Subject: Re: What ARE the 3-4 Essential Coltrane Impulse Sessions
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date:  5 Nov 92 17:52:27 GMT

jeff@godzilla.quotron.com (Jeff Marder) writes:

>what are the most important, most listenable Impulse discs.

Expression is one of them. The title track, which I believe was the
last track Coltrane recorded, is also one of the most perfectly
constructed tracks he ever recorded. Also, at the end of the track
there is a poignant moment which, to me, is the saxophonic equivalent
of the famous scene where Henry Fonda tips his hat at the end of
"My Darling Valentine"; almost an "until we meet again."

_______________________________________________________________________________

steven stovall
stovall@exeter.cs.ucla.edu
(310) 825-7307
From: wdw@sybase.com (Wayne Wong)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Piano/Bass duets
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:49:11 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

Going a bit farther back, there are the Duke Ellington - Jimmy Blanton
duets from the early 40's (available on RCA)
From: andrew@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de (Andrew Shields)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Sos Fenger on Holliday
Date: 12 Nov 1992 17:58:10 GMT
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
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In <JUL.92Nov12161208@delta.iesd.auc.dk> jul@iesd.auc.dk (Thomas Jul Jensen) writes:
>I'm a great fan of Billie Holiday's, and I do not think Soes Fenger
>has violated the rules of redoing other people's stuff. The album is
>truly a tribute to the memory of Billie Holiday.

Are there really rules for that?  If I break them, am I legally liable?
How do I get a copy of the rules to make sure I won't be sued?

:-)

Andrew
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From: jgthomas@crchh420.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (John Thomas)
Subject: Anthony Davis
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:19:35 GMT

From the latest Jazz Times, Anthony Davis's opera X is going to
be performed with the Chicago Symphony supposedly and when he's
in town he said that he was going to use some AACM people
also.  Sounds very interesting.  Don't think they had a date 
in there when it was going to happen though.

The current issue also has a nice feature on current big bands
such as Randy Weston's, Carla Bley's, and others...
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Subject: Re: Coltrane: Dear Lord
From: stephenad@brt.deakin.edu.au
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:10:21 EST
Organization: Deakin University, Melbourne

In article <92309.101725K3067E0@ALIJKU11.BITNET>, Stefan Ratschan <K3067E0@ALIJKU11.BITNET> writes:
> Does anyone know one which John Coltrane record I can find
> the song "Dear Lord"?
> 
> Thank you.


From memory I think it is 'Transition'.


Stephen.
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From: jgthomas@crchh420.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (John Thomas)
Subject: Re: Coltrane: Dear Lord
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:56:23 GMT

|> >In article <92309.101725K3067E0@ALIJKU11.BITNET>, Stefan Ratschan <K3067E0@ALIJKU11.BITNET> writes:
|> >> Does anyone know one which John Coltrane record I can find
|> >> the song "Dear Lord"?
|> >> 
|> >> Thank you.
|> >
|> >
|> >From memory I think it is 'Transition'.
|> >
|> >
|> >Stephen.

Just curious, but was wondering -- how did you come across this song
if you didn't know which of Coltrane's albums it was on?  Have you been
listening to Crispell's LIVE IN ZURICH recently... :)
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From: lenny@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Lenny Silver)
Subject: Re: Looking for Song/Artist
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:22:40 GMT

In article <BxHn0t.DM0@beach.csulb.edu>, mikefitz@beach.csulb.edu (Mike Fitzpatrick) writes:
|> I was recently in Wisconsin and my friend and I attended a blues bar
|> that was out in the cornfields.  The silver moon I think.  Anyways a guy
|> named Glen Davis was the owner.  Apparently was a blue singer and played
|> drums in Chicago for some years.  He had a bunch of people jamming all
|> night with $5 huge pitchers of beer and no cover.  Anywasy the point of
|> this is he sang a song called the Garbage Man.  It was a blues song
|> about how you shouldn't ever get your garbage man mad at you or
|> something.  It was an incredible performance and I have been looking for
|> a recording of it ever since.  I couldn't find any of Glen's albums
|> anywhere in Chicago.  He said he was on a label called bluefin I think.
|> Can anyone help me either find one of his albums or direct me to another
|> artist who may have recorded this song?
|> 
|> Thanks
|> 
|> Mike
|> 

Before Glen moved to Wisconsin he jammed on Monday nights at the Nines
in Ithaca NY for a lot of years.  Last February the Nines re-instituted 
the Blue Monday jam, this time led by Pete Panek and Bruce Lockwood of
the Blue Cats.  Glen visited for a weekend a few months ago, did a Saturday
night with the Blue Cats and then appeared again at Blue Monday.  He also
did a version of the Garbage Man I liked a lot, both nights.  Another song he
sang both nights that I'd never heard before was Poison Ivy --

   Well I don't mean to brag
   I don't mean to say what I do
   But like poison ivy
   I break out all over you

Glen didn't mention any recordings of these songs while he was here, and I
haven't heard any.  Unfortunately, the Blue Cats are unrecorded.

Lenny
From: bweiner@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Benjamin Weiner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Where's Lennie Tristano???
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:08:38 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

nvats@ac.dal.ca writes:
>My jazz teacher has often mentioned a teacher of his - Lennie Tristano,
>who was a renowned piano player and teacher in N.Y..  ...

I must be least qualified to say but here goes.  Tristano was 
an influential piano player who mistakenly gets pigeonholed as
mostly being an influence on "cool jazz" and West Coast white
boys, which isn't fair to him (or them, maybe).  Anyway, he was
a pretty unconventional player, but not in the sort of percussive
style which one associates with a lot of out-of-the-mainstream
piano playing - in a much more linear style.  I hope that's not too
off base.  I don't have any good ideas about which Tristano records to 
get, though.  Anthony Braxton did recently release a wonderful record
of Tristano compositions, called "Eight (+3) Tristano Compositions" -
shouldn't be too hard to remember.  It's on Hat Hut - I got it at
Tower records.  I think Braxton says some interesting things about Tristano
in Graham Lock's book "Forces in Motion."

Ben
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: don't look now
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:51:14 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.163530.8488@comp.lancs.ac.uk> arb@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Andrew Brooks) writes:
>I really enjoyed Ornette's "Spelling the Alphabet" but I can't find it on
>any CDs around here.  Can anyone tell me which (if any) album it is on, and
>suggest some other albums of similar music for a newcomer like me?

Virgin Beauty.  Get 'em while their hot, because that catalog is out of
print.  I think the East Berlin "boot" from 88 also has it.

Tuesday, Bravo again had a BIRDLAND, with a piano trio of Herbie and Ira
Coleman and Tony Williams.  There was another solo pianist whose name I
cannot remember, and then a performance by one of Wayne Shorter's fusion
bands.

Friday the 13, they say that Don Cherry will be on, with what looks like his
band with some of the Multikulti group.

Jeff
From: vek@spacsun.rice.edu (Vincent E. Kargatis)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: DB Reader's Poll
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:58:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: rice.BxB61y.L30
Distribution: na
Organization: Rice University

gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:
> Years ago Downbeat used to have this section where four or five
> critics each presented four of their "current favorite" things -- I
> think it was usually one new release, one old classic, one "rarity"
> and one rececnt live event.  Anyone remembers this?  Too bad they
> stopped.

Yeah, those were great. I learned about Berne/Frisell's ...THEORETICALLY
through Art Lange's mention of the Minor Music re-release through that
column.

> But I guess that's what we have RMB for...

It's a good trade...
-- 
| Vincent Kargatis                      |  "It was jump or die."             |
| Dept. of Space Physics and Astronomy  |                                    |
| Rice University, Houston, TX          |      Marilyn Crispell to Anthony   |
| [vek@spacsun.rice.edu]                |        Braxton on his Comp. 69C    |
From: ahouse@hydra.rose.brandeis.edu (jeremy john ahouse)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Jazz/Bach fusion?
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:32:19 GMT
Organization: Brandeis - Center for Complex Systems
X-Xxdate: Tue, 10 Nov 92 01: 32:49 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12

In article <40718@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> Paolo Valladolid,
ee152fcy@sdcc15.ucsd.edu writes:
>Could anyone out there identify the artist and song?

I could if my mind weren't winking out - it is mmmmmm...

oh darn, it is the vibes player from the modern
jazz quartet, oh yes John Lewis(?).. phew.  He has done a 
series of discs where he improvises around back themes.

	They are wonderful.
	
		- jeremy
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From: daugherb@b8.b8.ingr.com (Bruce Daugherty)
Subject: Re: Favorite Fusion Album of All......
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:07:28 GMT

In article <92314.104351KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu>, Karl Nordstrom <KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> 
> milst1@cislabs.pitt.edu (Martin I Lewison) says:
> >
> >I've always considered Steely Dan ... to be fusion artists too, but
> >I've omitted ... for fear of controversy.
> 
> Hey lets be controversial.  If Steely Dan isn't fusion, then what are they?
> If they arn't fusion then what other band is in the same category?

** James Blood Ulmer's "Freelance" album has some wild stuff on it

** Steely Dan fusion? Don't think so...
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