From: fall217@cse.unl.edu ()
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: The Quran and the Modern Science (2)
Date: 4 Jan 1993 22:24:27 GMT
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milind@agni.cc.nd.edu (Milind Saraph) writes:

>Pages 165-168:
>Sura 21, Verse 33
>"(God) the One Who created the night, the day, the sun and the
>moon.  Each one is travelling in an orbit with its own motion."
>Sura 36, Verse 40
>"The sun must not catch up the moon, nor does the night outstrip
>the day.  Each one is travelling in an orbit with its own motion."
>[Poster's note:

>Bucaille mentions a negative fact: the Sun moves in an orbit, but
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>no indication is given as to what this orbit might be in relation
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>to the earth.  He then says that the concept of geocentrism which
>was prevalent at that time is not mentioned any place in the
>Quran.]
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THIS IS THE LIMIT OF SCIENCE.  IT WILL TAKE BILLION YEARS TO TRAVEL THROUGH
THE KNOWN UNIVERS IFF WE TRAVEL WITH THE SPEAD OF LIGHT.


>The Arabic word falak has here been translated by the word 'orbit';
>many French translators of the Quran attach to it the meaning of a
>sphere.   ......

 QURAN IS NOT IN FRENCH IT IS IN ARABIC.  ANY TRANSLATION 
IS NOT REGARDED AS QURAN.


>Today, the concept is widely spread that the moon is a satellite
>of the Earth around which it revolves in periods of twenty-nine
>days. ......

>[Then after some explanatory material Bucaille concludes that
>the Quran refers to the Sun's revolution around the galactic
>center.]



->The description of the sequence of day and night would, in itself, be
->rather commonplace were it not for the fact that ,in the Quran, it is
->expressed in terms that today are highly significant. This is because it
->uses the verb kawwara in the sura Al Zumar (39:5) to describe the way the
->night ' winds ' or ' coils' itself about the day and the day about the
->night, just as, in the original meaning of the verb, a turban is wound
->around the head. This is a totally valid comparison; yet at the time the
->Quran was revealed, the astronomical data necessary to draw it were
->unknown.

>What is significant about the term "winds" or "coils"?  What does it
>imply?  What astronomical data is required to conclude whatever he
>wants to conclude?
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TERM WINDS SIMPLY TRIES TO EXPLAN THAT DAY AND NIGHT ARE NOT JUST
TURN ON AND OFF OF A STATIONARY SOURCE OF LIGHT BUT MOVING SOURCE
AROUND A CORE.

->The Quran also seems to have alluded to the expansion of the
->Universe. 

>The basis for this claim is Sura Al-Anbiya (21:30):

>"Donot the unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined
>together, the We clove them asunder"

->There is also the conquest of space. This has been undertaken thanks to
->remarkable technological progress and has resulted in the man's journey to
->the moon. But this surely springs to mind when we read the sura Al-Rahman
->(55:33)

->"On assembly of jinns and men, if you can penetrate regions of the 
->heavens and the earth , then penetrate them ! You will not penetrate
  them save with power.

>This Sura may remind Bucaille of space travel.  This is much different
>than saying the Quran mentions space travel.
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QURAN IS NOT THE LOG OF STAR TRAK, IT USES THE TERMS WHICH WERE UNDERSTANDABLE
AT THAT TIME.  

>>This power comes from the All-Mighty, and the subject of the whole sura is
>>an invitation to recognize God's Beneficence to man.

>I have no disagreement here; from what I know, many verses in the Quran
>are "invitation to recognize God's Beneficence to man."


>-- Milind Saraph
WITH REGARDS
AGHA SAEED

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