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From: vhspet01@uctvax.uct.ac.za (Peter van Heusden)
Newsgroups: alt.prose
Subject: Classroom
Date: 22 Jul 92 09:50:19 +0200
Organization: University of Cape Town

Classroom 
---------
 
The teacher looks out at the forbidding  circle of desks. 24 pairs of 
eyes stare out at him. He is teaching grammar. A corner erupts in 
senseless giggles, like a boil bursting. The simple smile on the 
teacher's face droops into a frown. "Stop that there", he snarls. Pupils 
read their work out loud. Derisive comments fill the classroom. In the 
corner a boy sits, milk-bottle lenses uneasily perched on his pimpled 
nose. He struggles through his answers. They're correct, but he takes too 
long, the class gets bored, shouts him down. Someone has written on the 
board, "I hate a dream." The boy withers into silence. The bell rings. 
The class storms out, the teacher follows. Slowly the boy rises. He walks 
out, out of the school, up ten stairs. And jumps. 


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Peter van Heusden              "She was screaming as she fell 
UCTVAX, Cape Town                But I never heard her hit" 
vhspet01@uctvax.uct.ac.za                                  Violent Femmes 
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Newsgroups: alt.prose
From: duck@pembvax1.pembroke.edu
Newsgroups: alt.prose
Subject: On The Flying Away / Roosting
Date: 26 Jul 92 22:46:24 GMT
Organization: Pembroke State University

[Critiques welcomed]

  The birds don't appear to be happy today - either that or they don't like the
unsalted penuts that I have today. The penut-salesman today had ran out of the
salted type. I don't find them that bad myself so I'm sitting here munching on
them a bit myself; the birds are just looking at them, picking them up and
usually dropping one. Ocassionally I'll see one actually try to eat it. 

  The birds are nice. They're always here. They never run away from me - they
know that they're my friends. I like looking at the birds - the people passing
by me usually wrinkle their faces in disgust - I'm aware of that. I just choose
to ignore it - I'm not one of them.

  I know I have no life to speak of - just my friends, who still aren't eating
the unsalted penuts. I'm content to spend my days with them and to sleep in my
roost here on this bench at night.  Ha! Jack just flew down and started fueding
with Marty as he always does this time of day - it's like a daily event. I'm
not sure what their problems are. Hmmm, the sun is slowly setting - my friends
will soon be disappearing to their perches. I'll give them the rest of these
penuts and then try to roost myself.
From: jpg@bnr.co.uk (Jonathan P. Gibbons)
Newsgroups: alt.prose
Subject: battle clip 2
Date: 30 Jul 92 09:28:14 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, London Rd, Harlow, Essex, CM19 9NA, U.K.

Again from a game...
Jonathan
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Judus hung listless. Ninety percent of the cruisers hull vaporised, 
weapons systems completely destroyed, scanners next to useless, and the
miracle that the enemy had disengaged.  The shock of the combat was still
with the ship.  The crew silent and scared.  Waiting for the killing blow.
Finally the departure of the enemy was confirmed by the Command ship.  Now
the crew came to life.  To escape the field of battle, to silently crawl
from the scene of the near fatal encounter was the only objective.  Engeneers
jury rigged systems that had blown, navigation systems were hastily brought
on line and the ship ran.

Blind it ran, hoping the way was clear of asteroids and enemy alike.  Running
as long as it dared, seperated from the rest of the battle group and all
available help.  Finally it came to rest and lay as if dead.  Damage control
systems switching into operation in an attempt to make the ship space worthy.
The hull was patched sufficiently to survive perhaps a single salvo, the
weapons systems were left dead.  The ship was in no state to fight, its
only hope was to return to its guild headquarters far away.  The null drive
was useless, disrupted beyond hope of use.  And so the perilous journey
began.....
--
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
  With fearsome eyes and fiery breath the dragon burnt the girl to death
                    -- from "Too Late Saint George"
Newsgroups: alt.prose
From: mfc1493@venus.tamu.edu (Ratboy)
Subject: Re: Banned from alt.good.news
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 05:23:00 GMT

>   Well, it's official. I have been banned from posting stories to
>alt.good.news. I guess some right-wing fool monitoring his precious
>little good news group lacked the intelligence to understand why a 
>rape scene in "Danielle" was not sensational violence, and why an 
>execution in "Smells Like Free Spirit" embodied an essentially "good news"
>theme. 
> 
>   Sigh. It's so frustrating having my rights limited by people who lack
>the intelligence to even read a story, let alone understand it. In any
>case, it seems the alt.good.news Nazi who got me banned is quite proud
>of himself. 
> 
>--
>Richard J. Rauser      "Sonic 2!"
>rauser@sfu.ca               -what Guile says
>WNI
> 

*sigh*

Sorry, Richard. Their loss. The talented are never understood. Strike one up
for censorship...

Michael
From: celd@stiatl.salestech.com (Charles LeDuc)
Newsgroups: alt.prose.d
Subject: Re: RICHH: JUST NOT RIGHT
Date: 30 Jul 92 12:35:59 GMT
Organization: Sales Technologies, Inc.

richh@netcom.com (richh) writes:

>--well, Sho, was this one more Bret Ellis or more Kilgore Trout?
>--well?

You seem to think there is some qualitative difference between the two...

Chuck
From: neeri@iis.ethz.ch (Matthias Neeracher)
Newsgroups: alt.prose.d
Subject: Re: The "Bad Two" reposted
Date: 31 Jul 92 10:30:13 GMT
Organization: Integrated Systems Laboratory, ETH, Zurich

In article <rauser.712561213@sfu.ca> rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser) writes:
>    Upon request from a reader of alt.prose, the "bad two" have
>been reposted...

How about *mailing* him the stories ? It seems to me that these stories have
been reposted often enough for the moment.

And while we're at it, how about keeping administrative messages to
alt.prose.d ?

>the two stories that resulted in my offical banishment
>from alt.good.news. The stories are "Danielle" and "Smells Like Free
>Spirit." The first examines the role of a victimized woman in modern
>society, using a very surrealistic structure. The second concerns a 
>religious martyr who accepts execution rather than renounce his country
>or his faith. 

While I'm sure a lot of people like these stories, I must admit I don't
understand what they have to do with good news. Maybe you'd care to enlighten
me ?

>BANNED from alt.good.news! Censorship is alive and well on Usenet!

As far as I understand, you were not banned at all; you were merely told to
either post only good news in alt.good.news and take your darker stories
elsewhere or to get another account for posting. I don't see how this can be
construed to be censorship.

Matthias

-----
Matthias Neeracher                                   neeri@iis.ethz.ch
 "A lot of heavy-metal kids are just plain dumb." -- Chris Novoselic
Newsgroups: alt.prose.d,alt.fan.gooley
From: rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser)
Subject: Re: found on alt.prose
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:15:33 GMT



    This is amazingly annoying. If you can't write your own stuff, there's
no need to rewrite mine. Do you think this is funny? It isn't. If you
don't understand the story, I'll be happy to explain it to you. There's
nothing clever about rewriting someone else's ending. What an asshole.

--
Richard J. Rauser      "Remember, no matter where you go,
rauser@sfu.ca               there you are."
WNI                              -Buckaroo Banzai

Newsgroups: alt.prose.d,alt.prose,alt.peeves
From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: Banned from alt.good.news
Originator: rita@eff.org
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:05:28 GMT


	Only the government can censor.

-- 
Rita Marie Rouvalis              rita@eff.org 
Electronic Frontier Foundation   | Inbred Jed sez: Check with the Mormon
155 Second Street                | Church before marrying; inbreeding 
Cambridge, MA 02141 617-864-0665 | is everyone's problem.
Xref: sparky alt.prose.d:149 alt.prose:1033 alt.peeves:12733
From: jjehl@lonestar.utsa.edu (Jeff D. Jehl)
Newsgroups: alt.prose.d,alt.prose,alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Banned from alt.good.news
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:00:29 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

You were stretching the net's guidelines a bit apparently :)...

Spec
Newsgroups: alt.prose.d,alt.prose,alt.peeves
From: rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser)
Subject: Banned from alt.good.news
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 00:30:21 GMT



   Well, it's official. I have been banned from posting stories to
alt.good.news. I guess some right-wing fool monitoring his precious
little good news group lacked the intelligence to understand why a 
rape scene in "Danielle" was not sensational violence, and why an 
execution in "Smells Like Free Spirit" embodied an essentially "good news"
theme. 

   Sigh. It's so frustrating having my rights limited by people who lack
the intelligence to even read a story, let alone understand it. In any
case, it seems the alt.good.news Nazi who got me banned is quite proud
of himself. 

--
Richard J. Rauser      "Sonic 2!"
rauser@sfu.ca               -what Guile says
WNI
 
Newsgroups: alt.prose.d
From: young@ssdd475a.erim.org (Peter Young)
Subject: Re: RICHH & PAUL:  TRUE STORY
Followup-To: alt.prose.d
In-reply-to: richh@netcom.com's message of Tue, 21 Jul 92 20:14:23 GMT
Organization: Environmental Research Institute of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:09:07

In article <h6dm#dp.richh@netcom.com> richh@netcom.com (richh) writes:

>	"But it's good."
>	"Har har, that *is* the best."

Ya know, I was thinking about that good old pie just yesterday
morning.  Are we connected, or what?



--
Peter Young
young@erim.org
Newsgroups: alt.prose.d,alt.fan.gooley
From: mlharley@unix1.tcd.ie (Kubik)
Subject: Re: found on alt.prose
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 11:17:47 GMT


In <#_dm=m-.gooley@netcom.com> gooley@netcom.com (Mark. Gooley) writes:

>From a story posted to alt.prose:

>>      That evening there was a knocking at the door.
>>      "Someone get that!" Danielle called out. She glanced around but
>>her house was empty. Only moments before her brother and mother and father
>>and sister had all been there, watching TV, but now there were all gone.
>>She noticed that the TV was gone too, and in its place was an army
>>helmet that had "Born to Kill" written on it.
>>      She got up from the bed and stepped over the fishtank and opened
>>the door.
>>      Two police officers stood there, staring at her. "Danielle?"

(A most intriguing and delirious story deleted)

>       They drove her home, and I submit that this is no more absurd
> than the original:

>>a wooden sign with bright red letters that said TRUST. She looked up at
>>the sky but saw nothing there.
>>      "You can't kill a man, little lady," the cop said. He put his gun
>>to her head and pulled the trigger. Danielle's head was blown apart and
>>her body slumped to the sandy ground.
>>      The other cop started laughing. "That there little lady's got guts,
>>huh?"
>>       "Shut up, Marvin," the first cop said as he put his gun back in
>>the holster. "There's nothing funny about it."

>Mark., oh, yes, there is something funny about it
>gooley@netcom.com

Hey! the original author might correct me, but I think this episode was
intended to be Danielle slipping into madness? or maybe a dream?

Note the details such as the family gone, and the tv replaced by the
helmet. Also, in the middle of the desert, a sign, in RED letters,
saying TRUST (something to do with the fact that she trusted John when
they went upstairs 'for a chat', maybe?)
And of course, the empty sky, "She looked up at the sky, but saw nothing
there." (Or is this, nothing *special*, no UFO's or army helicopters.. You
never know.)

Anyway, to me, this does NOT seem like reality. A dream.

Though I would agree that this was not as good an ending as I might have
expected from that author. But I would associate that with the fact that
we seem to be not quite in Danielle's mind during the early part of the
story, only, very close, seeing through her eyes maybe. Then,
in the end, we seem to see it all through her mind (not quite the same
thing).
--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mark Harley...	         |  "Truth is, Belief is not required",  Gerry Roston.
mlharley@unix1.tcd.ie    |
(Kubik)		         |  "I am, Belief is not required",                Me. 
Newsgroups: alt.prose
From: rmr@sgi.com (selfish meme)
Subject: Re: summer reruns (i)
Followup-To: alt.prose.d
Organization: the atrocity exhibition
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 02:20:54 GMT

sam@rmtc.Central.Sun.COM (Sam Falkner) writes:

>[poem deleted]
>
>``analysis, mr. spock?''
>
>``bad poetry.''
>
>- sam
>
>So LEAVE here Now, or Meet your Eeeennnndddd...


1. I disagree.  With extremely short fiction,
   the the distinction between prose and poetry
   is blurred.  This particular piece was more
   poetic than some, and you can feel free to
   draw the line where you like, but prose poems
   are acceptable here.

2. Criticism should be posted to alt.prose.d.

3. Try contributing to the group yourself before
   attempt to criticise others, not that the
   above counts as much of a criticism.  

4. What exactly didn't you like, "Captain"?


			Robert.
Xref: sparky alt.prose:991 talk.bizarre:23129
From: drseuss@gorn.echo.com (David Bedno)
Newsgroups: alt.prose,talk.bizarre
Subject: Gas.  Food.  Lodging.  1 Mile.
Date: 18 Jul 92 06:57:52 GMT
Followup-To: alt.prose.d
Organization: Speakers for the Bread



Day 1

We started out on the road today.  I was at the wheel, going up 5 headed
ostensibly to Portland, but more realistically just someplace north.  
Someplace small and north.  Joseph was in the back of the rv planning the
next 5 hours or so of music, and, he claimed, trying to figure out our
expenses for the next however long.  What he really was doing was loafing.
Actually, I was wrong.  He'd gotten the map out.

"Hey, Judy...how does forks of salmon sound to you?"

"Not good.  I don't like fish.  What, are you planning dinner?"

"No, I mean as a destination.  It's a little town near the middle of 
Nowhere.  Still in California, though.  Not far from famous Mt. Salmon."

"I dunno.  Can we get there from here?"

"Well, according to mister map, we just have to head West across a quarter
of the state at Redding."

Redding was still, easily half a day away.  "No problem.  Forks of Salmon,
California it is."

And we kept driving, Joseph kept lazing, and I was wondering what kind of
local people we'd find.  Our search was going to be spontaneous and random.
And we'd actually be staying in town long enough to get a feel for the place.
Charles Kuralt, eat your heart out.

--

Lunch today at:  Whistlestop Diner.  Near Sites, California.  One trucker,
one waitress, cook in back.  Two locals in a booth drinking coffee and
arguing about whether Hank Williams Sr or Woody Guthrie was a better 
songwriter.  I had the Blue Plate Special (meatloaf, mashed potatoes w/gravy,
corn and coffee) and Joseph had a hamburger and fries.  Price $9 for both of
us, including a good sized tip.  

Incidents of note:  Strange incident on the way back to the interstate.  
A police officer, I'm not sure if it was sherriff or local or CHP, pulled
out from behind a barn, had his lights on for a moment, and then turned 
them off and pulled off to the side of the road.  It was enough to get
Joseph (his turn to drive) to drop to 50, from his 57 or so.  Nothing else
unusual.

			*	*	*

OFFICIAL MEMO - COLUSA COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE
From:  Sheriff Reaver
To:  Officer Taylor

Jim:

Sorry to hear about the problem with the cruiser; we've been seeing a 
rash of problems with the electronics in some of the vehicles.  But, 
simply because an RV gets away with going 2 miles over the speed limit
is no reason to send out an APB on them.  Let them go.

And your interrogation of Sherri over at Whistlestop went too far.  
Threatening to close them on alleged health violations is beyond your
jurisdiction.

I'm afraid that one more incident like this, and we'll have to put you
administrative leave for a while.

(signed)
Frank Reaver



<to be continued>

-- 
     David Bedno		       	             drseuss@gorn.echo.com
"It was a beautiful, almost poetic way to cap what had been a textbook career
of brilliant, original mathematical insights punctuated with outbursts of
random, deeply unhinged violence."                - olin.shivers@h.cs.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: jo@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeff Jo)
Subject: Re: 92 ST: TNG Cliffhanger
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:57:05 GMT

Xref: sparky alt.startrek.creative:1626 rec.arts.startrek.current:10731 rec.arts.startrek.fandom:1153 rec.arts.startrek.misc:7594
From: davidl@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU
Subject: Lincoln Enterprise Changes Address
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative,rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.fandom,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Date: 27 Jul 92 00:19:41 GMT


	Hello.

	Lincoln Enterprise-the company that Majel Barrett owns, has changed its
address....

		Their New Address is:	14710 Arminta St.
					Van Nuys, CA 91402
					(818) 989-4978
		This comes from the Star Trek store at Universal Studios...which
		endorses this company quite highly.

	They sell all the scripts for the show as well as tribbles, t-shirts,
	pins, etc.	Call for a free catalog.

Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: rrussell@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com (Robert Russell)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative,rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.fandom,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.tech
Subject: Re: TNG Uniforms (What a hoser)
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:15:00 GMT
Organization: Schlumberger CAD/CAM; Ann Arbor, MI (USA)

In article <9207261718.aa26504@Bonnie.ics.uci.edu> davidl@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU writes:
>
>	Hello.
>		I just recieved word that a company is now selling what I
>		believe to be the best TNG Season III & IV uniforms around...
>
          [blatant commercial advertisement deleted]
>
>		-Ask for Pamela...to get to a FREE catalog and let her know
>		where you got this from, and she will treat you real nicely.
>		If not, just let them know that you got this info. from
>		USENET, and they just might treat you 'specially.'

Didn't this guy post a while back and get thoroughly shouted at?
Some people just never learn...
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (sandra guzdek)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: RE: the pat parker flame
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:08:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

i think it's only fair to say that the guy who wrote that horrible flaming of 
pat parker's groovy stories was kidding to an extent. apparently they are 
housemates, or something. anyway, pat has promised to thrash him. :) and pat 
is not really too bothered by it (i think... i can't presume to speak for 
him, though i just have) -- besides, his stories stand up for themselves.

sandra guzdek  +  username: v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu  +  til 21 Aug 1992
    "All that remains is the possibility of communication." -- J-L Picard
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: lmasterm@cs.ulowell.edu (Lisa Masterman)
Subject: Re: Pat Parker
Originator: lmasterm@cs.ulowell.edu
Keywords: what a writer!!! ( NOT )
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:24:57 GMT


In article <cbc1.712480849@Ra.MsState.Edu>, cbc1@Ra.MsState.Edu (christopher b carey) writes:
|> Well, I just got through reading all the tripe that this parker individual
|> put on the net, and I just have to say...  (blah blah blah)

|> Chris Carey

Talk about being ashamed; if I were Pat, I'd be ashamed to have someone like
you on MY campus.  Even if you do dislike a writer's style, then for God's
sake don't smash him to pieces in public.

Besides that, I disagree with your opinions.  I happen to really have enjoyed
T'Selar, and I consider myself to be a fairly critical reader.  None of us are
trying to achieve the Pullitzer Prize for what we post here; lighten up.

You have just caused me to reconsider posting a story of my own across the net.
To quote a well-known saying, "If you can't say anything nice, don't say
anything at all."

--lisa
From: neal.pritchard@f605.n712.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (Neal Pritchard)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Intruders...
Date: 20 Jul 92 07:20:04 GMT
Organization: Fidonet. Gate admin is fido@socs.uts.edu.au

Original to: john.stepkowski
...and so spaketh John Stepkowski with dimensious postulation upon the 
subject of Intruders......

JS>Uh huh.. But isn't the "technology for biology" theory a result of 
JS>the Cooper "revisionists"? Didn't the original MJ-12 material only 
JS>document the establishment of a group to evaluate the 'Rosewell' 
JS>incident and to have these experts 'on-line' for any future retrieval?

True enough. I'm not a Bill Cooper follower by any means. Still, 
mutilations (at least on cattle) occur with disturbing regulatity. Human 
ones occur too, but that was ignored. Maybe I'm expecting too much from a 
syndicated drama/special...

JS>Of course this question may be entirely moot as the original MJ-12 
JS>documents have never been proved beyond doubt to be genuine.  And yet 
JS>it _should_ be possible if they are genuine!  When Ellsberg leaked the 
JS>'Pentagon Papers' the material was verified and printed very quickly. 
JS>FUFOR spent $16,000 trying to verify the material and only some people 
JS>thought the material was genuine. Of course, even if the MJ-12 
JS>documents are a total fraud, it does not mean that there never 
JS>was/still is a group _like_ MJ-12.

I thought the original document (the one reproduced in Timothy Goode's 
book 'ABOVE TOP SECRET') had a reference number that could be traced. 
Wouldn't it have been simple to prove it's existance. Simply ask for 
document xxxxxxxxx-xxx-x-xxxx-x-x--xxxxxx-x/a and if it exists then it's 
real. 

JS> > The MIBs didn't visit the abductees either. Just their Psych!
JS>
JS>Probably due to budget cuts. It costs a lot of petrol to drive around
JS>the country harassing people. <g>

                :-)

JS>Do you know if ParaNet has ceased altogether?  I saw an origin line 
JS>in the'Contact' area a few months ago that listed ParaNet alongside, 
JS>MUFON and the UFO Fido echo.  Or was I just seeing things?  (My 
JS>eye-sight has never been the same since the Loch Ness monster ate my 
JS>good glasses... <g>)

I spent a good month trying to find a PARANET feed for our BBS, but was 
eventually told there were none anymore (accuracy?) and MUFONet/AstroNet 
had taken over the major echoes.

JS>Got a 28 in Melbourne, but dropped down to 22 for the last quarter 
JS>hour on the second night. How could you watch all of the first part and 
JS>not be interested in seeing how it ended? 

Maybe they got 'sus' of the whimpie ending...

Neal P.

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