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>soc.culture.hongkong / cs_rayhy@uxmail.ust.hk (YaN HO LEunG) /  5:22 am  Sep 29, 1992 /
>In article <6130118@hpopd.pwd.hp.com> yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan) writes:
>>>soc.culture.hongkong / jhmcho+@pitt.edu (Jack Cho) /  5:28 am  Sep 25, 1992 /
>>
>>
>>> undergraduate here.  His professors thus made such a comment like this, 
>>> if those HKU honors students came here, they wouldn't know if they
>>> could teach them.  My friend then made a joke on them and said that's
>>> why there are so many foreign smart students in such big name schools
>>> like MIT, U of Chicago, UC Berkeley...  Why?  Because only Nobel Laureates
>>> can teach them.  8-)
>>
>>Most of those honours students left University day after their finished and
>>try to get as much money as possible. Why should they spend another few years
>>as low paid cheap labourer in University (mind you, the sponership in HK is
>>very low). I just can't make it out how can those people paying fee for a
>>Ph.D.

>As far as I know, $9,000.00 HK dollars/month for T.A.
>(subject to change without notice.)

Is it salary or sponership?


>Clement.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: rchoy@clarify.com (Raymond Choy)
Subject: Re: Stand up girls! Re: Why? Why? Now I am telling you why.)
Organization: Clarify, San Jose
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:42:34 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.023547.5499@news.iastate.edu> chris@iastate.edu (Chris WONG) writes:
>
>Don't play mathematics in love!
>Don't you see the word 'EXPECT'?
>If you expect to get something back in the first place, this won't be a good
>intention. Huh? But, if the other party give you love(care, concern or
>whatever) this would be obviously nice.

Agree!!


>
>Wait a minute! Are you guys complaining about the unsatisfaction from your
>partners? That is complaint... that means you guys were expecting ...
>See what I mean?
>
>Well, I admit that I was saying a more ideal situation... but, love is ideal...
>if you really want love... try your best to find or build an ideal love... but
>if you give up to the reality, you'd never find a happy life.
>

Unfortunately in reality love is not ideal at all. For a world with ideal
love, we will have every person in the world able to match up with their
ideal partner. In the real world, there are so many thing like "I love her,
she loves him" etc. 


>If you think my viewpoint is narrow, you're narrow-minded then. I was giving
>my personal opinion and I'm not saying who's wrong or right. Everyone has his/
>her way of life as long as s/he is happy. It really doesn't bother me.
>But, I really hate complaint. I like understanding. Like I understand my girl-
>friend and she understands me a lot, we trust each other. We talk things out.
>We try every ways to build a good relationship.


Yes, a good relationship is built on communication and trust, not assumption
and expectation.


>
>Anyway, I'm a optimistic person. I'm hoping everyone would be living happily
>and smoothly with his/her partners.


Unfortunately, I am a pessimistic person who believe in an imperfect 
world and human are not fair. 


>>of extending real world love into virtual reality (VR).
>
>Your mathematics' way, reality = - virtual.
>My religion way, reality = virtual, true reality = not virtual.
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>

I didn't quite get this.


-Raymond Choy-


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: leung@DSG.Tandem.COM (Steven Leung)
Subject: Re: what is  SCHK ??
Organization: Tandem Computers
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 14:05:33 GMT

SCHK stands for Silly Chat Hong Kong.

Steven
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: 91066702@cphkvx.cphk.hk
Subject: Single Chart 10.4
Organization: The Ohio State University; Department of Phyiscs
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 07:05:23 GMT

Hi all!!!

Here comes the CR2 chart again!! Missed it?


Commercial Radio Chik Chak Chart (10.4)
=============================================================================
New Songs this week
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

30.Christopher Wong Hoi-kun  Late Autumn [Wan3 qiu1] (Man Tsau)

28.Lui Shan                  Walk with you [pei2 zhe ni3 zou3] (pui dzoek nei
                             dzau) <the song of Lowell Lo and Tina Lau orig.>

23.Ngan Luen-mo              The moon stores our love
                             [ming2 yue4 qian1 li3 ji4 xiang1 si1]
                             (Ming yuet tsin lei gei seung see)
                             <this is another old song re-issued>

19.Anthony Wong Yiu-ming     The colour of Love [ai4 se4] (oi sik)

18.Anita Mui Yim-fong        Close lover [qin1 mi4 ai4 ren2] (tsun mud oi yun)
                             <this is a mandarin song, not new one>

14.Shirley Kwan Suk-yee      Please turn off the lights when you leave
                             [li2 kai1 qing3 guan1 deng1]
                             (lei hoi tsing gwan deng)

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Top 10
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

10.Yolinda Yan Cho-sin       Can you really forget me?
                             [ni3 zhen1 de ke3 yi3 wang4 ji4 wo3 ma]
                             (nei dzun dik hor yi mong gei ngor ma)

 9.Aaron Kwok Fu-shing,      Red Hot Hits
   Sammi Cheng Sau-man,      [Huo3 re4 dong4 gan3 la la la]
   Andy Hui Chi-on,          (for yit dung gam la la la)
   Edmund Leung Hon-man

 8.Vivian Lai Sui-yun        The rain season will never come again
                             [yu3 ji4 bu4 zai4 lai2] (yu gwai bud dzoi loi)

 7.Grasshoppers              A.E.I.O.U  <no chinese name>

 6.Veroinca Yip Yuk-hing     White Rose [bai2 mei2 gui4] (bark mui gwai)

 5.Sally Yip Sin-man         Lover, friend [qing2 ren2 zhi1 ji3]
                             (tsing yun dzi gei)

 4.Leon Lai Ming             Fall in love in one night [yi4 ye4 qing1 qing2]
                             (yut yea king tsing)

 3.Hacken Lee Hark-kun       Red sun [hong2 ri4] (hung yut)

 2.Alex To Tak-wai           Save the world [qing3 jiu4 di4 qiu2]
                             (Tsing gau day kau) <mandarin song>

 1.Shirley Wong Ching-man    A woman that is easily hurt
                             [rong2 yi4 shou4 shang1 de nu3 ren2]
                             (yung yee sau seung dik nui yun)

==============================================================================

OK, hope you will like it.

See ya!

Aulina   91066702@cphkvx.bitnet
1992.10.4  15:04
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: cs911364@ariel.yorku.ca (SHING-YAN EDDIE SY LING)
Subject: Re: Internet access in CUHK
Originator: cs911364@a01.ariel.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: york
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:09:16 GMT


In article <1992Sep27.125752.4823@uxmail.ust.hk>,  (Spode, God/dess of Chaos) writes:
>> In article <80215@ut-emx.uucp>, funnyfin@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu writes:
>> > 	How about using the talk program? Will everyone who have an account
>> > be able to do electronic-talk with us? Or will they get no access to it? I
>> > always talk with my friends thru internet, that save me a lot of long-
>> > distance call fee. I have particular favour over ytalk, I once talked with 
>> > two people in CUHK and two in HKUST simultaneously. I am now imagining how
>> > the screen will be splitted if more people join the talks....
>> > -- 
>> 
>> I can't say what will be happening at CUHK, but I do know that IRC chat will
>> soon be available to HKUST.

Sorry to ask u a stupid question.... what is the IRC chat??

Eddie Ling
cs911364@ariel.yorku.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: About Leon Lai
From: Alpha.Ranma@kcbbs.gen.nz (Raphael Cheung)
Date: 27 Sep 92 23:57:38 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

But I only heard Leon sing off-tune about 3 to 4 times...

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
From: yuchao@mtu.edu (YUAN-NING  CHAO)
Subject: Re: [song] popular song "Crying Sand"
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 03:18:39 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.044534.21479@njitgw.njit.edu> cxh0217@hertz.njit.edu (chia-ming x huang ie stnt) writes:
>In article <1992Sep23.161627.785@leland.Stanford.EDU> chungdan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Zhong Qi Iao (Daniel)) writes:
>>
>> --- \ /     +-+ \ /    
>>  \   X      |-+  |     
>>  /  / \     /    |     
>And,
>> +-- \ / -+- /    |   /       |   /     
>> |    X  /|       |  /        |  /      
>> /   / \  +-      |  ---      |  ---    
>And,
>>  |  ||  \    /   |  -|  \   \ / /   /  
>>  |  ++-     <    |  |--      X  ---    
>>  |  +--      \   |    /     / \   /    
>And still going, and going....
>> | |  |  \/  --- | | \/  +--  /      | | \/ 
>> +-|  |       |  | |     |   /       | |    
>>   |  |       |  +-+     +-- ---     +-+    
>>
>>				 ||| \ /  /       /   |  \/   |  / / /  
>>				 |+|  X  /       <    |       |  \/     
>>				 --- / \ ---      \   |       |  --|    
>
>Uh, excuse me, but, but, WHAT THE HECK ARE THESE SYMBOLS ALL ABOUT ???
>
>
>Chia-Ming


  Hi, let me translate above symbols.

  ***  ku1 sha1   (a title of a song "cry sand")

  ***  huang2 ing1 ing1 (a female singer's name)

  ***  ji3 shu3 fong1 yu4 (many many wind and rain [maybe another title])

  ***         juong1 chi3 iau2  (the e-mail sender's name)

  
  These spelling symbols are used in the primary schools in Taiwan.
So anyone who studied in Taiwan can easily understand these symbols,
just like those who studies in mainland using "pin yin."

anything else?


yuchao@mtu.edu
Edmond Chao
Dept of ME
Michigan Tech Univ
(from Taichung city)


  
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From: wchau@acsu.buffalo.edu (Wun-Chun Chau)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: $$$ Short News in UST $$$ (Boys must read it!)
Keywords: Pretty Female Doctor
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:18:01 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

In article <1992Oct3.125722.29458@uxmail.ust.hk> bi_kin@uxmail.ust.hk (HoiFung JACK @>-`) writes:
>Hi, all guys, a piece of short news here in HKUST:
>
>######   		Begin of News		########
>
>In this semester, there comes a verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry pretty young girl doctor
>in UST.  Someone even said that she can participate to be Miss Hong Kong?!
>Woww....woww...!!!!~~~~~~~~

GREAT NEWS! Would someone please tell me how to apply to UST? Especailly
those department with offices close that very-pretty-young-girl-doctor's.
THANX :)
-- 
==wun-chun Chau===============================What a crazy world!=============
INTERNET:wchau@eng.buffalo.edu UUCP: ...!{rutgers,uunet}!acsu.buffalo.edu!wchau
INTERNET:wchau@acsu.buffalo.edu  BITNET: wchau%acsu.buffalo.edu@ubvm.bitnet
===============Do you want to die young? If you know what I mean :) ==========
From: swl@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Samuel Wai Kay LEUNG)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: OPEN JUDGEMENT OF A "COLOR WOLF"
Date: 4 Oct 92 14:12:54 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia

bi_kin@uxmail.ust.hk (HoiFung JACK @>-`) writes:

>Can any netters answer me the following question:

>Assume there is a "color wolf" - undergrad, in a university who sexally 
>disturbs girls frequently, is it fair for us to judge him openly in front of
>all the students and "dot his face" to the public?!

>Or if it is better to tackle this matter secretly, maybe send him to
>a social worker?!  And leave some space for this satyr?!

>Welcome for any prompt comments! :)

I think the best way is to get him and cut something (ha, guess what???) off
from him  ")

Then one more colour wolf would be disappeared in this world.

Samuel
From: leoso@cs.arizona.edu (Leo WaiChung So)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Tat + "Dream"
Date: 2 Oct 92 06:31:14 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Oct1.164903.28412@cucs5.cs.cuhk.hk> klyeung1@eng.ie.cuhk.hk (yeung ka leung) writes:
>
>I heard from the radio today that the Tat from Tat-Ming 1 Pie have group
>up with a girl called MUO ("Dream") and will have a new disc called
>"Rose Gardan".

  The girl is called "Mung" (Dream)? What is her background? What will
  their songs be like? This is really a news. Please supply more 
  information. Thanks a lot.

  leo.
--
  Leo WaiChung So               Internet : leoso@cs.arizona.edu
  Department of Computer Science    UUCP : uunet!arizona!leoso
  University of Arizona           Bitnet : leoso%cs.arizona.edu@arizona.bitnet
  Tucson, AZ 85721, USA     Keep in Mind : "Look ahead, plan ahead, go ahead."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris WONG)
Subject: Re: Stand up girls! Re: Why? Why? Now I am telling you why.
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 22:50:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.140409.5552@gw.wmich.edu> 893woo@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>In article <80795@ut-emx.uucp>, shui@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dreamer) writes:
>> 
>>   Love is two ways. Give and take.  Chinese husbands are the most terrible one.
>> They are very selfish.  Most of them think their jobs in the family is only
>> to bring money home.  Nothing else!  They don't care about their wives feeling
>>  or their needs.
>> 

Sorry Teresa,
	I'd like to make my one penny worth opinion.
	I'm a Chinese man.
	In my personal opinion, human all over the world are the same with
some minor differences of course. But, have you thought about bad and good?
The definition of bad and good is not important. But, have you ever notice
there are bad and good people in everywhere in the world. No matter where you
go, except the ideal heaven, you would encounter both bad and good people.
I mean, you may have the chance finding some man similar to what you described
the worst husbands -- Chinese husbands.
	A Chinese girl marrying  a American man doesn't mean that American
husbands, in general, is better. It's just because they fall in love with each
other. It's just because this particular American man is better in her eyes.
	I'd like to ask you a question. Not flaming! Do you know what true 
love is? I think you'd better answer this kind of question before posting
protesting material here.
	Love between two people is trust, care, and promise, but this is too
ideal. People are have ego-selves. So, the lovers should work out any problems
they got, not complaining, but understanding to each other, forgiving.
	Hope you guys get what I mean.
	I'm not flaming, but just too upset to see Chinese people stepping on
each other. This may be the reasons why China never has peace in the history.

:(

Not flaming again! I'm afraid of flaming! I'd rather try to solve things.

Please calm down!

Please...please...

Chris.
Send any critisim to chris@iastate.edu please.
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: cs_rayhy@uxmail.ust.hk ("siu" YEN YEN)
Subject: Re: $$$ Short News in UST $$$ (Boys must read it!)
Keywords: Pretty Female Doctor
Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:46:39 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.185048.14051@uxmail.ust.hk> bi_kin@uxmail.ust.hk (HoiFung JACK @>-`) writes:
>In article <1992Oct5.022329.17106@schaefer.math.wisc.edu> poon@schaefer.UUCP (Ka-Cheong Poon) writes:
>[lines deleted...]
>>
>>Just curious, what kind of sickness do they "have" B-)
>>
>>Have fun!!!
>>
>>								Poon.
>
>The following finger information can reveal our "CHEUNG WAI" diseases in
>HKUST.
>
>**********************
>Login name: ee_kmkmk  			In real life: FUCKING Cafe D Coral 
>Directory: /student/ee/ee_kmkmk     	Shell: /bin/csh
>On since Oct  3 21:14:49 on ttypc from ustsu3.ust.hk
>Mail last read Sat Oct  3 20:51:11 1992
>No Plan.
>**********************
>
>###Remarks:###  
>There is only one student canteen and one staff canteen in UST.
>Both are Cafe De Coral (Tai Ka Lok).  But what a surprise to you,
>nothing there seems like from Cafe De Coral except the logo placed on
>the tissue.  I guess the dog's meal in UST's construction site is 
>more delicious than ours. :))))))
>Oh...yes...it can be said that our "MIKE TIN KUNG" smells much disgustingly
>than the dogs'.  What in What out mah!!!!


Have you seen a COMPLETE dead body of "Four Leg Snake" in a "Au Nam
min" prepared by Union Restaurant , HKU???
I suppose dog's meal will be better than that!
Also, Ever seen CURLY body hair (of course human being) in a "Au Lau
See E Fun"?? I can swear that it didn't came from the part under your 
ARMS...

>  * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>  * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 
>  * *       |/                                                    * *
>  * *      /| []T[]_|_   " Deepest and Highest....... "           * * 
>  * *       |  _|_==|                                             * *
>  * *       | /   \ |                                             * *
>  * *      /|\\___//|\                        HoiFung JACK -'<@   * *
>  * *                                                             * *
>  * *                               Email:  bi_kin@uxmail.ust.hk  * *
>  * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>  * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

---
Clement. graduated from HKU.
From: daikit@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Daisuke Kitamura)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: The best pop singer in HK
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:41:09 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

How about Hui Zhi An? He's got a good voice and lyrics?

Dai.
From: yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1992 08:33:41 GMT
Subject: Re: Teacher, Teaching, A Famous Writer
Organization: Hewlett-Packard ISG-SBU-PWD, UK.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong

>soc.culture.hongkong / laub@Software.Mitel.COM (Boniface Lau) /  4:08 am  Sep 23, 1992 /
>>>>>> On 21 Sep 92 15:09:32 GMT, PXW10@psuvm.psu.edu said:

>PXW10> The reason I asked was that a famous chinese writer, Bing Xin
>PXW10> (Ice Heart) wrote on People's Daily few days ago: ``Teacher is
>PXW10> the hardest working, most enjoyble profession''.

>I thought People's Daily is a newspaper published in Chinese. May be
>you were reading a translated copy.

Do you know that P.D. has an oversea edition in Chinese? And I know that
a lot of Mainland Chinese students receiving it (free, of course, from
the Chinese Embassy). Also, many libraries have it (I mean university
library).

>PXW10>                                                   She is so
>PXW10> famous that I thought I was wrong or I come to the States for
>PXW10> too long. 

>BingXin is famous for her Chinese writing, not English publication.
>By the way, is BingXin still very famous in China?

She is still famous, but not as famous as before because she has no big
publication for a long time.

>PXW10>           Maybe she is too old.

>Well, there are not that many people who can still publish at the age
>of 92 (she was born on Oct/5, 1900).

She only wrote some short articles.

>BingXin probably published her statement in Chinese in the Chinese
>edition of the newspaper and someone from People's Daily did a sloppy
>translation for the English edition.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: rchoy@clarify.com (Raymond Choy)
Subject: Re: Chinese husbands....
Organization: Clarify, San Jose
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:04:14 GMT

In article <91179@netnews.upenn.edu> gho@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Grace Ho) writes:
>
>
>
>
>You know, it's kind of funny of what girls think about
>chinese guys for husbands.  Being a girl, i don't think
>that i would want a husband of any other race.  In fact,
>my roommate who is korean wants a chinese husband b/c
>she says that the stereotype of a chinese husband is
>"submissive"...Do you guys agree?  I mean, the wife
>usually controls the money and usually has the power
>in the family.  I'm sure that you guys will disagree
>but this seems to be the response from my friends when
>i ask them who has control in their family and they
>usually say their "mom".  So, i wouldn't mind having a
>chinese guy for a husband! 
>
>Grace

Haha.. Talking about money? My friends and I always have the following
saying: "After you got marry, your money is hers and her money is hers".
Power (or maybe its more appropriate to say decision making)? 
"Outside the family is his, inside the family is hers" or
"Big Deal is his and Small Deal is hers". :-)


-Raymond Choy-



Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William Lo)
Subject: Re: The dangers of rn : )
Keywords: Dangerous
Organization: IBM Australia/ACCI 
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 04:23:42 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.012731.4239@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung) writes:

[...Stuff(the funniest part) deleted...]
>
>Hey, remember the famous Cantonese proverb which says something like: 
>"Don't recognize someone as your father just because he has beard."  
>I know my proverb, and I wont be fooled by you. ;O)
>
>Your loyal son,
>Kelvin "hehe" Leung (who is trying his best to stay away from gossiping
>                    about women) ;)
>
>e-mail: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu

	Hey, you can't fool me either, my dad isn't bearded anyway!

---Don't beat me, dad,
	William "GeGe" Lo
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<> William W. Lo              ( there must be winners and   <>
<> william@natimuk.acci.com.au ) losers."                   <>
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: leekfe@eecg.toronto.edu (Kim Fung Edward Lee)
Subject: Re: Tat-Ming 1 Pie
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:38:48 GMT

In article <eln235s.717760418@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au> eln235s@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr H Hui) writes:
>
>Hello, 
>It seems to be quite number of netter like their songs. What song(s)
>from them you like the most?
>
>My personal choice :
>1. Kam Sic (Prohibited Color)
>2. Mon Kei Ta Si Ta (Forget (s)he is (s)he)

My choice:
- Tin Fa Luen Dzui  and  Gam Sic

I also like the recent album by "Wong Yiu Ming" on his own produced
by himself at the Music Factory.  In that album I think 
- Tsi Ma Gan  (Crazy)
is very good.

>
>-- 
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>Humphrey Hui                      :  Have you taken a risk lately?
>HHUI@basil.eng.monash.edu.au      :  Life is boring without risk!


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