From: jsciv@polaris.async.vt.edu (Joseph Cochran)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: ***** Proposed RFD:  revision 1 -- please examine
Keywords: RFD split group
Date: 23 Jan 93 18:09:33 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Department of Graduate Slaves


	Taking into account many of ths things said in the discussion,
I offer the second attempt at an RFD.  A few notes:  I recognize that
everyone's opinion is justifiable, and most of those expressed have 
been well reasoned, but I'm trying to make the best compromise possible.
	I feel better able to defend a discussion in news.groups with
the slight changes of the CGW split, so I've altered the groups 
accordingly.  Also included are examples of each game type.

	Another topic brought up is that this RFD will need a strong
proponent in news.groups.  I think that it's going to need many of 
them, so if you are in favor of the split, please keep an eye on this
thread once it goes to full discussion, and help out when you can.  

	The last comment I have is about announce.  At one point in
earlier discussions someone volunteered to moderate, and I also said
I'd help out.  My offer is still valid, but if there's anyone better
qualified, or if the person that volunteered is still interested, we
should get together on this.  If anyone is interested in being the 
moderator, please speak up.

					*--Joe--*
					jsciv@polaris.async.vt.edu

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RFD: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games reorganization

This consists of two main proposals:  The necessity of a split of the 
newsgroup comp.sys.ibm.pc.games, and the subgroups which should be created.

PROPOSAL:   

	The newsgroup comp.sys.ibm.pc.games shall be divided into a
series of subgroups based on the long-term topics that are curruently
all in a single group.

	The new subgroups shall be named based on the type of games
to be discussed therein.  The proposed subgroups are:

	.action
	.adventure
	.misc
	.rpg
	.simulation
	.strategic
	.announce (moderated)

RATIONALE:  

	c.s.i.p.g is an extremely large newsgroup, which has resulted in
many people being unable to keep up with the group in a reasonable way.
A straw poll was conducted after much discussion in the group as to
the necessity of this split, and this RFD is based on those results.  
Most people agreed that a topical split is appropriate, based on the
type of game that is being discussed.  Due to similarities between the
net discussions and the categories of industry magazines, the following
subgroups are proposed. 


comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

	This unmoderated group is for the discussion of action/arcade
games. Action and arcade games are generally fast paced games which have
a simple goal, and usually require good hand-eye coordination.  Examples
include Lemmings, Wolfenstein 3D, and Wing Commander.

comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure

	This unmoderated group is for the discussion of adventure games.
Adventure games are generally games in which an unchanging character is
presented with puzzles, problems and obstacles which must be solved to
attain the game's goal.  Examples include the King's Quest series and
the Zork series of games.

comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.misc

	This unmoderated group is for the discussion of all topics that
do not fall under another games subgroup.  This group will take the place
of the current c.s.i.p.g and will carry all discussions that should not
be carried out in other games subgroups.

comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg

	This unmoderated group is for the discussion of computer 
role-playing games.  Computer role-playing games are generally games in
which a character is presented with puzzles, problems and obstacles
which must be solved.  The character may improve their abilities and 
skills in order to solve some problems.  The character is also usually
forced to fight in combat during these games.  The goal of the game
may not be evident. Examples include the Ultima and Wizardry series 
of games.

comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.simulation

	This unmoderated group is for the discussion of simulation
games.  Simulation games are games which simulate an environment, 
vehicle, or other usually technical apparatus, and allow players to
manipulate it as if it were real.  Examples include F15 Strike 
Eagle and Falcon 3.0.

comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic

	This unmoderated group is for the discussion of strategy games.
Strategy games usually involve complex manipulation of game resources 
in many different ways, which directly affects the progress and outcome
of the game.  Also included within this description are wargames, which
often invlove similar strategic planning operations.  Examples include
Civilization, SimCity, and Castles.

comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.announce (moderated)

	This moderated group is for announcements that are useful to the
entire computer gaming population, including but not limited to new
release announcements, software publisher news, bug information, and
GAMEBYTES information. Followup discussion will be directed to misc.


	A moderator has not been chosen as of yet.
 
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