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From: rxkajv@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Andrew Vanderstock)
Newsgroups: aus.forsale
Subject: Amiga 500Plus &c
Date: 15 Aug 92 18:41:15 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

Due to the lack of use of my Amiga 500Plus, I have decided to part with it.

Features :
  Amiga DOS 2.04
  ECS Chip set (same as 3000's)
  1 MB of CHIP ram
  Modulator, cables, and full manuals

  Also included (original packaging manuals etc)
   Bart Simpson and the Space Mutants
   Deluxe Paint III
   Lemmings
   Captain Planet (or something silly like that :-)
   Heimdall (excellent RPG, excellent graphics, sound etc...)

and plenty of shareware demos, modules and disks

Asking Price $800 ono. 

Andrew
Newsgroups: aus.forsale
From: tooraj@daneel.rdt.monash.edu.au (Tooraj Enayati)
Subject: Wanted - Two 1Mb SIPPS memory
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:35:49 GMT

Subject line says all. I am after two 1Mb SIPP modules for my PC.
I you have one or two of them and want to sell 'em. Send me an email,
and we'll talk about the price.

Cheers.

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Newsgroups: aus.forsale
From: sci240s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Wey Jing HO)
Subject: Windows 3.1 (new) for A$85.00
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Distribution: melb
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 11:51:45 GMT

I have Windows 3.1 for A$85.00. They are all new and unopened.
Interested, email me.

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From: foo@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Terence P Foo)
Newsgroups: aus.forsale
Subject: MS-DOS 5
Date: 14 Aug 92 05:43:07 GMT
Distribution: melb
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia
Originator: foo@latcs2.lat.oz.au

DOS 5 FORSALE

I have a unused version of MS-DOS 5 (still in shrink wrap) for sale.
I've bought a new machine and it came with it. I've already got another
pack from the purchase of my previous machine. I figure $80 would be a fair
price seeing it's as new.


If interested please call me on 817-4345 or e-mail on
foo@latcs1.lat.oz.au

Terry
Xref: sparky aus.news:120 aus.aarnet:780
From: u907736@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Edmund Chia)
Subject: Re: Immigration
Organization: University of Tasmania
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:00:31 GMT

In article <11445246.3.714793991@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au>, 11445246@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (THOMAS HAYWOOD) writes:
> 
> In article <1691@grivel.une.edu.au> kong@neumann.une.edu.au (Yeong Mo, , , ) writes:
> >From: kong@neumann.une.edu.au (Yeong Mo, , , )
> >Subject: Immigration
> >Date: 22 Aug 92 05:07:10 GMT
> >From article <1992Aug15.173146.89769@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>, by slb143c@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au:
> >> China, my friend!
> >> You can see how weak the Australian government is! They can do nothing
> >> about the economy crisis. Chinese are much more wiser, once the Chinese
> >> government know what are the right thing to do (mean which is good for
> >> their country), they can do it well.
> >> 
> >> Any comment welcome.

The tricky question is "Does the Chinese government know what is the right
thing to do." For the past 100 years, it has screwed-up the lifes of millions
because it had the power to do what it liked but not the wisdom to know what
is right. Hopefully, after a century of mistakes, it will finally get it right.

> The reason the Australian Government cannot do anything is because of the 
> bloody unions. Every time they try to do something useful, the unions stick 
> their fat heads in and can it.

The constitution might have something to do with it as well. The responsibilty
is divided between State and Commonwealth and its sometimes hard to know whose
butt to kick to get things done.

(stuff deleted)

> Another reason why we can do nothing about the economy crisis is because all 
> of the politicians are dickheads. Paul Keating has no education after Year 10
> Dr Hewson has an economics degree, but his GST is the biggest laugh.

I'm pretty sure Keating and Hewson feel the same way about the GST even though
it might not be politic for them to admit it.

> The only way we can get out of this recession (depression) is to get rid of 
> unions, tariffs, and (no offence to any immigrants) stop all immigration 
> until the unemployment drops to a suitable level, say 6% 
> Well thats my opinion, but then again, what would I know
> 
> Tom.

I would agree that migrant intake should be cut drastically. The ALP appears
to be taking this line as well, whereas the Liberals could improve the manner
in which they express and explain their immigration policy. My impression of
the present Australian immigration policy would be that it encourages the
outflow of refugees.

Edmund

Newsgroups: aus.news
From: rdb156s@nella13.cc.monash.edu.au (JKM. Tan)
Subject: Re: FERGIE
Keywords: FERGIE
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:54:43 GMT

11478489@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (TEO RONALD) writes:

>				*** FERGIE ***
>	The     F irst
>		E nglish
>		R oyal
>		G al
>		I n
>		E xposure !!!

HA HA!! Very good. You must be one of those Royal Critics.

-- 
  John K.M. Tan
	Email:-	rdb156s@nellads.cc.monash.edu.au OR
		sphinx@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
" There's nothing better than cheering someone up, with a smiley. :) "
From: bennett@dstos3.dsto.gov.au
Newsgroups: aus.news
Subject: Re: FERGIE
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:28:56 GMT
Organization: Defence Science and Technology Organisation

In article <11478489.7.714641684@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au>, 11478489@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (TEO RONALD) writes:
> 
> 				*** FERGIE ***

I can't help wondering if all the people hounding Fergie, Di etc are living 
morally correct lives themselves.

Jesus said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone".

Regards,

John Bennett                                E-mail: bennett@dstos3.dsto.gov.au
Newsgroups: aus.news
From: 11445246@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (THOMAS HAYWOOD)
Subject: Re: Immigration
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 01:53:11 GMT

In article <1691@grivel.une.edu.au> kong@neumann.une.edu.au (Yeong Mo, , , ) writes:
>From: kong@neumann.une.edu.au (Yeong Mo, , , )
>Subject: Immigration
>Date: 22 Aug 92 05:07:10 GMT
>From article <1992Aug15.173146.89769@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>, by slb143c@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au:
>> China, my friend!
>> You can see how weak the Australian government is! They can do nothing
>> about the economy crisis. Chinese are much more wiser, once the Chinese
>> government know what are the right thing to do (mean which is good for
>> their country), they can do it well.
>> 
>> Any comment welcome.
The reason the Australian Government cannot do anything is because of the 
bloody unions. Every time they try to do something useful, the unions stick 
their fat heads in and can it.  As for China, If they want something done it 
gets done becuase they are communists and nobody can argue with the 
government over there.
Another reason why we can do nothing about the economy crisis is because all 
of the politicians are dickheads. Paul Keating has no education after Year 10
Dr Hewson has an economics degree, but his GST is the biggest laugh.
The only way we can get out of this recession (depression) is to get rid of 
unions, tariffs, and (no offence to any immigrants) stop all immigration 
until the unemployment drops to a suitable level, say 6% 
Well thats my opinion, but then again, what would I know

Tom.
Newsgroups: aus.followup
From: vince@megadata.mega.oz.au (Vince Sandrone)
Subject: Re: House + contents insurance(s)-warning...
Originator: vince@sarah
Organization: Megadata P/L, North Ryde, Sydney, Aust.
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 00:32:50 GMT

> 
> To me, house insurance is a bargain (assuming they pay up). We have the house
> insured at $70,000 and pay a measly $150-00 (not the cheapest). I know
> that the chances of the house burning down, etc... is quite small, but the
> return on your investment if things do go wrong is pretty good.
> 
> $150-00 * 80 years = $12000
> 
> If the house does go in my liftime (which I hope it doesn't) I'm infront.
> 
> Pity I can't say the same about car insurance, but they are two different
> insurance stories completely.
> 
> Gareth.
 This thread seems to have degenerated to a bitch/warning about
insurance so I don't feel bad about putting my $0.02 worth in

I bought a house 14 months ago with Advance bank . the usual  
requirement for house insurance was there . Shopped around and went
with the banks cover for the building and NRMA for contents
After a electrical storm the BULIT-IN aircon blew.
House insurance read that it was contents and contents insurance read
that it was fixed and hence the buliding.
=> $500 out of pocket even with 'house and contents' insurance.

gratuitous advice ----
   do NOT get seperate building and contents insurance.
better luck than me,
vince
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Newsgroups: aus.followup
From: Jon.Biddell@unsw.edu.au (Jon Biddell)
Subject: Re: OAGS
Organization: University of NSW
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 14:01:09 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.002057.728@cancer.DIALix.oz.au> wvs@cancer.DIALix.oz.au (W.V. Sharpe (Ore Reserve Geologist LNO)) writes:
>From: wvs@cancer.DIALix.oz.au (W.V. Sharpe (Ore Reserve Geologist LNO))
>Subject: Re: OAGS
>Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 00:20:57 GMT

>In article 164319@dstos3.dsto.gov.au, jbennett@dstos3.dsto.gov.au () writes:
>>In article <9222510.9697@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, ggr@koonda.acci.com.au (Greg Rose) writes:
>>
>>> for an acronym of your choice -- such as "Air Movement Device" (FAN).
>>
>>Wait up !  "Air Movement Device" should be A.M.D., not F.A.N.  ;-)
>>

>I'm sure I heard a few years ago that this is what IBM (I've Been Mugged) actually
>called a fan in one of their system manuals.

IBM ??? I Believe Microsoft ???  Itty Bitty Machines ???


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From: steveo@mel.dbce.csiro.au (Stephen Oakes)
Newsgroups: aus.followup
Subject: Re: What's Green & Yellow
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:25:53 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: CSIRO, Div. Building Constr. and Eng'ing, Melb., Australia

eln235s@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (mr  h    hui) writes:
> It's common for the Australian sports team to have their uniforms
> designed in green and yellow. 

This here's the wattle, the emblem of our land,
You can stick it in a bottle, you can hold it in your hand,
Amen.

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Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: toivo@ucs.uwa.OZ.AU (Toivo Pedaste)
Subject: Re: Policy/Practices on providing modems ?
Keywords: modem policy practice unviversity
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 01:44:32 GMT

gtricker@socs.uts.edu.au (Glenn Rickersey) writes:

>I'm interested in finding out policies/practices from
>other universities around australia on the provision of
>remote access to university computing systems via modems.

Here at UWA we have 15 dialups (10 with a max speed of 2400 and 5 v32
with at max speed of about 14000). They are connected to an annex
terminal server and we use host based security so each user of the modems
has to have a username and password.

There is a daemon running on a sun which logs into the terminal server
and if all lines become busy it will log out the user who has been on
longest, provided they have been on for at least an hour. We get a
very sharp usage peak between about 9pm and 1am.
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Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: bgg@pta.pyramid.com.au (Ben Golding)
Subject: Re: a connect.com question (price wise).
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Sydney
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 01:04:21 GMT

In article <BtIt9w.CtG@phoenix.pub.uu.oz.au> hunter@phoenix.pub.uu.oz.au (James Gardiner) writes:
>Very few people will get news through connect.com.au
>News is free.  Anyone can feed you news so...

I agree that anyone can feed you news but news is not free by any
stretch of the imagination.  There is modem time, cost of disk real
estate and modems, phone calls, admin costs, and so on, all of which
are part and parcel of news.

>I expect a number of sites to get together.  One will get the news
>and share it round.
>This will only leave MAIL for this 1 hour time.

It depends on what sort of priority you place on news.  If you consider
it to be free and basically worthless then there isn't any point paying
for it.  On the other hand, there are many companies that use it as a
day to day part of business.  To them it is valuable and they're
prepared to pay to make sure that they get a reliable feed.

	Ben.
From: dconnors@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (David Connors)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: Policy/Practices on providing modems ?
Keywords: modem policy practice unviversity
Date: 30 Aug 92 05:37:37 GMT
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia.

gtricker@socs.uts.edu.au (Glenn Rickersey) writes:


>I'm interested in finding out policies/practices from
>other universities around australia on the provision of
>remote access to university computing systems via modems.

>UTS provides 6 modems for half-duplex access at a blazing
>300bps with a small number of other modems around the place
>with very restricted access.

Doesn't sound too good!

Here at Griffith there are about 8 dial in modems all full duples 2400 baud.
The computing support people who look after the modems say that another 4 9600
baud modems are being put on. These are  all for student use as staff have
a seperate dial in bank (I think).

These modems connect to a small number of machines on campus - but certainly
the main ones which most people have accounts on. The other machines
would have their own I guess.

Over at QUT and UQ they have a much larger number of students and MUCH larger
dial in banks. 


   Dave Connors - D.Connors@sct.gu.edu.au     Griffith University, Australia
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From: ilk@stan.xx.swin.oz.au (KYRATZIS I)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Don't read this - Test
Summary: Waste of Time
Keywords: Test
Date: 27 Aug 92 09:26:50 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Computer Centre, Swinburne University of Tech., Melbourne, Australia.

Don't read this - its only a test to se if I know what I'm doing.

And I probably don't
From: jbennett@dstos3.dsto.gov.au
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: Few Surprises in Science White Paper
Date: 24 Aug 92 16:37:17 GMT
Organization: Defence Science and Technology Organisation

In article <richard.714273599@mulgulgum>, richard@asis.unimelb.EDU.AU (Richard Begg) writes:
> pte900@jatz.aarnet.edu.au (Peter Elford) writes:
> 
> |"Few Surprises in Science White Paper" read the heading on page 16
> |of the Canberra Times this morning. But right at the end of the article:
> 
> |"Up to $13 million will be spent over the next two years upgrading the
> |Australian Academic and Research Network, a computerised link between
> |researchers and their colleagues in Australia and overseas."
> 
> [.. deleted..]
> 
> Isn't that nice of them.  But what is the money to be spent on?  Faster links?
> more IP connections?  Does it include any long term financial commitments
> to pay for the "upgraded" phone bills?
> 
> Inquiring minds and all that.

I'd be surprised if any of it went into "AARNet the WORKING network", ie as it 
exists now (no offence t reserachers intended here), it sounds like it will be
put into research projects, eg for new network services. 

Regards,

John Bennett                                E-mail: jbennett@dstos3.dsto.gov.au
Head, Networks Group                        Phone : +61 8 259 5292
Corporate Information Systems               FAX   : +61 8 259 5537
DEFENCE SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY ORGANISATION Postal: Bld 73 Labs Area
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Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen)
Subject: Re: Few Surprises in Science White Paper
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 02:18:37 GMT

pte900@jatz.aarnet.edu.au (Peter Elford) writes:

>Exactly how the funding is to be allocated is up to the new CRC. There
>will be a planning meeting held before the end of August to start the
>ball rolling towards having a CRC proposal complete by mid November.

Peter, can you provide any information about this "planning meeting". The
generation of CRC applications is intensely competitive, and VERY timeconsuming.
Usually they come out of a consortium of one or two Universities with CSIRO
and/or a private company ot two. What is to be the pattern with this one?
Will the AVCC be directly involved, or will Universities be invited/
encouraged to bid competitively for this money.

If we are not careful, the whole cooperative approach with AARNet, which
I think has worked extraordinarily well, could be threatened.


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PO Box 197 Caulfield East VIC 3145 Australia (ph) +61 3 573 2552 
(fax) +61 3 573 2345  AARNet/Internet:jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au  
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: kre@cs.mu.oz.au (Robert Elz)
Subject: Re: Munnari sendmail ??
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 05:07:40 GMT

In <BtKz3H.LL3@alsvid.une.edu.au> mark@alsvid.une.edu.au (Mark Andrew Garrett) writes:

| Has munnari.oz.au gone crazy or has some other host developed a fixation
| for munnari's name in it's address rewriting ?

Munnari added its address, but its because some other host (probably
peg.pegasus.oz.au from the look of it) is crazy...

The rules REQUIRE a host name on EVERY address in the From To Cc (etc)
headers, if munnari sees a message that says

	To: fred

it assumes that the user must have meant fred@munnari.oz.au (or else some
other host name would already be there), so it adds its name to make the
address legal.

There are far too many broken mailers in Aust - peolle who look after a
mailer please make sure that ALL addresses in all address headers contain
a fully qualified domain address BEFORE the address leaves your site.

If you're a user at a site where the mailer doesn't do that, there are two
things that you have to do ...

	First is to complain to the people who maintain the system
		(just in case they don't know)
	Second is to write full addresses yourself till the problem is
		fixed - ie: even if you want to send to someone on your
		local host, you must use is full domain name if any of
		the recipients are anywhere else - there's no problem if
		all the recipients are local - mail within a host can
		do whatever it likes.   Note - though that even if the
		address looks local, if the user forwards the mail to
		somewhere else, you will have to write the full address,
		which means both that you probably have to always write
		full addresses all the time, as you can never be sure,
		and why te mailer should do this for you...

kre
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: Proposal: OSI Addressing on AARnet
From: coleman@post.ntu.edu.au (James P H Coleman)
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:29:45 +0900
Followup-To: aus.aarnet
Distribution: aus
Organization: Northern Territory University

In article <8305@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au>, mrp@itd.adelaide.edu.au (Mark
Prior) wrote:
> The state allocation would be allocated (initially) as follows (the
> numbers are in hex)
> 
>         0100    AARNet Backbone
>         0200    NSW
>         0300    Victoria
>         0400    Tasmania
>         0500    Northern Territory
>         0600    ACT
>         0700    Queensland
>         0800    South Australia
>         0900    Western Australia
>         0A00    Australian Antarctic Territory
>         ...
> 
> If a state exceeds it's address space a further "state" is allocated
> with the same leading octet, ie NSW #2 would be 0201.

Just to bring up a red herring - How about:

          0100    AARNet Backbone
          0200    NSW
          0300    Vic
          0400    QLD
          0500    SA
          0600    WA
          0700    TAS
          0800    NT
          0900    ACT  (or ACT is 0260)

These numbers follow the same trend as the Postcodes with the only odd ball
being ACT whose postcode is 2600, not 9000, but you never know what Aust
Post
will do in the future.  

If you suggestion follows the STD code, then Tas is not 04 and
NT is not 05 so there are two odd ball situations.

James

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Newsgroups: aus.aarnet,aus.general
From: ggr@koonda.acci.com.au (Greg Rose)
Subject: Re: OAGS
Organization: Australian Computing and Communications Institute
Distribution: aus
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 02:16:08 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.133349.4883@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> skea@vast.unsw.edu.au (Alan Skea) writes:
[not a lot, other than my posting]

>In article <9222510.9697@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> ggr@koonda.acci.com.au (Greg Rose) writes:
>> ADCSX -- adaptive distribution cash systems executive

I thought this one was really good -- it describes most bankers
perfectly.
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