From: fjvwing@cs.vu.nl (FJ!!)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality
Subject: Re: FJ Needs A History Lesson
Date: 9 Apr 92 11:55:36 GMT

70750.2052@Compuserve.Com ("Ronnie Jr.") writes:

By the way, 10 out of 10 for predictability. When I sent off my response
yesterday, I wondered how Ronnie would react. I must say that the response that
came was far from a surprise.

|Oh, gosh... The little sissy Dutch wanted to remain neutral.  Far be it
|for them to take a stand for what they believe in.  By the way, do you
|know how much of a pathetic collapse a FOUR DAY fight for your nation is?

Yes, we all know. But, considering the state of the army, I'm amazed we lasted
that long. But we didn't have any anti-aircraft stuff, if I'm not incorrect, so
after the bombing of Rotterdam, fighting on would have been senseless anyway.

We pulled neutrality off in World War I, we thought we could do it in the 
sequel as well.


|Now would *I* ever attempt to rile anyone?

I see you have a sense of humor.


|Oh, and of course, your EUROPEAN mind is so much BROADER than our American
|minds.

Did I say that?


|Thank you so much for condescending to our "limited world view"
|by referring to your nation in geographic generalities. 

Well, _excuse me_ but do you have any idea of the amount of USAns that think
this place is a province of Germany, or a place in Africa? At least you can
find it on the map, but Night didn't even know the domain. So I figured he is
a geographical ignorami and reacted accordingly by making my scope continental.


|But, I must say,
|that if someone asked me "where is the .ca domain?", I wouldn't say "It's
|in the place where the American Civil War took place 130 years ago."
|Even though that did happen on the same continent which Canada is on.

Only if you'd like to make a point about it I guess. I'm sorry if you find my
mind illogical.


|Yet the USA (AND Western Europe) lauded Reagan as the savior of the
|Free World back in the 80's... You compare Reagan with Hitler?  

No, just the economic policies. You can read, can't you?


|}:If you wish to see how "peaceful and rational" the people on YOUR side
|}:are, send mail to root@digex.com (my old system administrator) and ask
|}:him how many mail messages his system was bombarded with when I posted
|}:from there.
|}Not my point.
|But it IS my point.  If you people mailbomb us, just because our views
|don't agree with yours, how can you complain when you get it back in spades?
|}As I said, in one message our Night in armour dared to say that we had to
|}solve things in dialogue and that he sent out mailbombs. It is with these
|}statements in one document by one person that I have a problem with. Are 
|}you going to defend that kind of hypocrisy?
|No, but I will defend his right to fight fire with fire.

Ok, we have found something here. You are not willing to defend a hypocrite
that says in the same message that we should work things out rationally and 
that mailbombing is an acceptable tool.

Now, about fighting fire with fire. I don't think that the people who got their
mailbombs this time sent them out. I'm quite sure that Jeff and Laurence and
Tim wouldn't use such a damaging, net cluttering attack. Yet they recieved
one. If I'm reading you correctly, you are saying that this is ok, not because
they sent out mailbombs, but because they -to your perception- seem to be on
the same side of the people that attacked you with mailbombs. Am I correct up
to here?

If I am, you are placing guilt by association. You advocate punishing members
of the group for the things done by another member.


|You forgot 

I'm still learning the culture. I didn't forget them; I didn't know them to
begin with.

|homo,

Aw, come on. Much to obvious.

|chocolate-churner, butt-banger, 

I love 'em! Have you got more obscure ones?

|rope-smoker,

This one is _too_ obscure. Is rope a reference to cocks?

|and sinner.

Doesn't cut it. Being told that you are a sinner is not exactly hurtful.

|And as for truth that hurts, I would imagine that finding out that one's
|only true sexual attraction is to other men must hurt pretty badly.

Yes, but I don't think you know why.

|Especially when Big Bubba rams his foot-long up your poop chute.

Ah yes, back to the 'only penetration is real sex' stance. Are all straight
boys this unimaginative?
							FJ!!
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