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From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: CLB EVENT: OBJECT-SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT: Dr. JOHN D. MCGREGOR 9/24/92
Followup-To: comp.object
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 16:46:10 GMT
Distribution: ba

Forwarded at request of CLB (--enm) Followups to comp.object.

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**ANNOUNCING AN EVENT AT COMPUTER LITERACY BOOKSHOPS**

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            OBJECT-SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT
------------------------------------------------------

                        with
                Dr. JOHN D. MCGREGOR


Dr. McGregor is an Associate Professor of Computer 
Science at Clemson University.  He is the co-author
of "Object-Oriented Software Devlopment: Engineering
Software for Reuse.".  He works with a number of
corporations on techniques for the design,
implementation, and testing of O-O software systems.


Date:  Thursday, Sept. 24th, 1992
Time:  6:30 p.m. - 8:00 p.m.


Location: Computer Literacy Bookshops
          2590 North First Street (At Trimble)
          San Jose
          (408) 435-1118


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From: lora@askinc.ASK.COM (Lora Shirley)
Subject: OSF/MOTIF Developer's Mtg: 9/16
Keywords: OSF Motif X11
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: 6 Sep 92 00:00:37 GMT


               OSF/Motif Developers Meeting: September 16

  Please join us at a jointly sponsored meeting of the OSF/Motif
  Developers Group and Drinking Society and the BayCHI OSF/Motif BOF.
  The meeting is at 7:00 PM on Wednesday, September 16.

  The topic for the evening is ""Extended Uses of WCL" (Widget Creation
  Library), presented by Ron Edmark.  Ron is a Senior Research
  Engineer at Integrated Systems, Inc., where he is responsible for
  the specification, design, and implementation of graphical user
  interfaces.  Ron has been working with X and Motif since 1989.  His
  current project is the design of a new 2d, 3d interactive graphics
  modeling engine.


  The meeting location is at NCD's facilities, 339 N. Bernardo in 
  Mountain View, directly off of the Central Expressway.
 


  About the Santa Clara Valley OSF/Motif groups:
  *********************************************

  The Silicon Valley OSF/Motif Developers and Drinking Society and
  BayCHI's OSF/Motif BOF (Birds-of-a-Feather) group are two Bay
  area groups that hold monthly meetings to discuss Motif
  development issues.  The topics discussed include: releases and
  features of the Motif toolkit, X11, UI builders, and products
  developed using Motif.

  Meetings are held on the third Wednesday of the month, at 7pm at
  NCD's facility at 339 N. Bernardo St. in Mountain View.  North
  Bernardo Street is located on the Central Expressway, between
  Mary and Castro Streets.

  The meetings are open to the public.  There are no membership or
  admission fees.

  A joint planning committee schedules the meetings.  If you would like to
  discuss a topic of interest to this group, please contact Lora Shirley
  415-335-5288.


  Upcoming Meeting Dates:
  ********************************************

  Wednesday, September 16, 1992     "Extended Uses of WCL"

  Wednesday, October 21, 1992       
  




Newsgroups: ba.seminars,comp.unix.large,comp.lang.perl,comp.unix.admin
From: deleon@hpl.hp.com (Laura de Leon)
Subject: Sept 17: Larry Wall speaks on Perl
Summary: Bay-LISA meeting
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:17:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Labs


Bay-LISA                                                     September 17th

Larry Wall speaks on Perl 5.0

    Larry Wall, the author of the Perl language, will discuss what Perl
    Philosophy is all about (if anything), and why Perl turned out the way
    it did (except when it didn't), and in particular how Perl will turn
    out in the relatively near future (if we live that long).  Special
    attention will be paid to the relationship between Perl philosophy and
    Unix philosophy, and to the much-rumored Perl 5, and to the audience.
    (There may also be some jokes.  Some of these may even be funny.  But
    that's not what you're coming for, right?)  In short, this talk is
    about How Perl Relates To Everything In The World.  Or something like
    that.  :-)


Next Month: Dr. Mitchell F. Wyle: Wide Area Network Information Retrieval


Video tapes of previous meetings available to Bay-LISA members.


General Meeting Information:

        Date:   Thursday, September 17th 7:30 PM
                (Third Thursday of every month)
                Please do not arrive before 7 PM.

        Place:  DEC
                Digital Santa Clara III
                2465 Mission College Boulevard
                Santa Clara

                From 101 take the Great America Parkway/Bowers Avenue exit.
                Take Great America Parkway, keep right.  Come to the first
                light, turn right and keep left.  At the first light, turn
                left into the parking lot of the office complex where Santa
                Clara III (WRO3) is.  The main entrance is right off a foun-
                tain in the center.  The meeting room is on the first floor.

        Info:    Send e-mail to baylisa-info@sysadmin.com, or you
                 may contact:

                 Bjorn Satdeva (408) 241-3111
                 bjorn@sysadmin.com

The Bay-LISA group meets monthly to discuss topics of interest for
administration of sites with more than 100 users and/or computers.  
The meetings are free and open to the public.

Xref: sparky ba.seminars:570 ba.general:3661 ba.broadcast:147
From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Newsgroups: ba.seminars,rec.arts.books,misc.books.technical,comp.multimedia
Subject: CLB EVENT NOTICE: MULTIMEDIA: the Computer Interface of the '90s 9/21/92
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:29:42 GMT
Followup-To: comp.multimedia
Distribution: ba
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA

Forwarded at the request of CLB.

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   MULTIMEDIA: the Computer Interface of the '90s
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MARK J. BUNZEL will present an overview of the state
of multimedia computing for the PC and Macintosh.
Demonstrtions will include IBM and Intel's
ActionMedia II DVI technology as well as Microsoft's
Multimedia Windows and Multimedia on the Macintosh.
Microsoft's AVI and Apple's QuickTime software-only
motion video decompression will be shown.

Mark J. Bunzel is president and founder of AVTEX, a
Campbell, California company that develops multimedia
software and systems for application developers and
corporate clients including: IBM, Apple, Olivetti,
Goldstar, Media Vision and Intel Corporation.  He is
the co-author of "Multimedia Applications Development:
Using DVI Technology".  Mr. Bunzel is an award winning
video producer and has nearly ten years experience in
developing interactive video producer and has nearly
ten years experience in developing interactive video
information systems, and the application of digital
imaging and optical disk storage.


Date:  Monday, Sept. 21, 1992
Time:  7:00 pm - 8:30 pm
       (check-in/registration at 6:30 pm)


Location: U.C. Santa Cruz Extension
          3120 De la Cruz Blvd
          (Trimble at 101)
          Santa Clara


Fee:          Non-credit, $10
To register:  call U.C. Santa Cruz Extension
                   (408) 427-6600
                           or
              obtain a registration form at
              any Computer Literacy Bookshops
              or at U.C. Santa Cruz Extension


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From: burgess@csl.sri.com (Judith Burgess)
Newsgroups: ba.seminars
Subject: CSL Seminar Sept. 14
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:22:34 GMT
Reply-To: Judith Burgess <burgess@csl.sri.com>
Organization: Gated to News by csl.sri.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: roche.csl.sri.com

CSL SEMINARS

    COMPUTER ASSISTED VERIFICATION OF TIMED REACTIVE SYSTEMS
                Mike Gordon, University of Cambridge
                  4:00 Monday, Sept. 14, 1992
          SRI International, Bldg. E, Room EJ 228

ABSTRACT The temporal behaviour of programs that interact in real time with
their environment depends on the compiler used and the timing characteristics
of the host processor. Working out the details can be messy. An approach to
managing this complexity, based on special-purpose theorem proving tools, has
been developed.  Specifications are written in a state transition notation
annotated with real-time constraints.  Implementations are programs coded in a
simple imperative language with assignments, conditionals, asynchronous
inputs, wait-statements, while-commands and forever-loops.  The meaning of
programs is defined by a translation to sequences of machine instructions, but
automated tools can derive behavioural abstractions that enable all reasoning
to be conducted at the source program level. A set of rules, combining aspects
of Hoare logic and temporal logic, has been derived. The talk will be centered
around an example consisting of a four-phase handshake (using two wait-loops)
followed by an iterative numerical computation (using a while-loop).  This
example has been chosen to show how reasoning about timed interactions with
the environment can be combined with the use of conventional verification
conditions.

NOTE FOR VISITORS TO SRI:

Please arrive at least 10 minutes early in order to sign in and be shown to
the conference room.  SRI is located at 333 Ravenswood Avenue in Menlo Park.
Visitors may park in the visitors lot in front of Building A or E, and should
sign in at the lobby of Building E and wait to be escorted to the meeting
room.

IMPORTANT: Attendance is open, but visitors from certain countries
designated by the US government must make arrangements in advance.  If
you have not already made such arrangements before your arrival,
admission to the seminar will be denied. If you believe you may be
from one of these countries and if you wish to make arrangements to
attend, please call Judith Burgess at (415) 859-5924 at least two days before
the seminar.

mjcg@cam.sri.com
Xref: sparky ba.seminars:581 comp.sys.mac.programmer:15465 comp.std.internat:653 sci.lang.japan:4111
From: norbert@apple.com (Norbert Lindenberg)
Newsgroups: ba.seminars,comp.sys.mac.programmer,comp.std.internat,sci.lang.japan
Subject: IMUG meeting 9/17/92 - non-Latin type issues
Date: 14 Sep 92 23:33:49 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA


Group:      International Macintosh Users Group (IMUG)
            (A Forum for Multilingual / Multiscript Computing)
Date:       September 17, 1992, 7-9 pm
Speaker:    Ari Davidow (Benjamin/Cummings Publishing Co.)
Topic:	     Non-Latin Type Issues - Hebrew and Cyrillic
Location:   Xerox Corp., 3400 Hillview Ave. Bldg. One, Palo Alto, CA 94303
            (corner of Foothill Expressway, new facility down the hill from
            Xerox Palo Alto Research Center).
            From Page Mill Road (accessible from 101 and 280), turn south
            onto Foothill Expressway. Go about 150 yards; turn right at
            Xerox entrance. Take driveway along the front of the complex
            parallel to Foothill. Park near the middle, where there is a
            fountain. IMUG will meet in Building One opposite Foothill from
            the fountain.  Look for large glass double doors.  Sign in with
            the receptionist. (There is also an entrance on Hillview.)
Admission:  $2, free for IMUG members (membership $15/year)
Contact:    Roger Sherman, (415) 859-5146

Ari Davidow will discuss multilingual type issues with a focus on
Hebrew and Cyrillic. Among the important points will be proper typeface
selection when working with different languages, what makes a multilingual,
or multi-alphabet combination most comprehensible and aesthetic, and the
importance of =avoiding= 'look-alike' faces (such as Times and Times Cyrillic)
in most cases.
 
                        ***

The International Macintosh Users Group (IMUG) is a forum organized to
promote greater use of languages other than English on the major computer
platforms - Macintosh, IBM-compatibles, etc.

Topics of interest discussed at IMUG meetings (every third Thursday of the
month) include:
    fonts, character sets, and encoding schemes
    development, localization, and marketing / distribution issues
    specific products available for various languages, including
        programs for learning foreign languages.
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: bilan@netcom.com (Steve Bilan)
Subject: Re: Movies...
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 05:03:07 GMT
Organization: Netcom

kehoe@netcom.com (Thomas David Kehoe) writes:
>Looking through the Mercury News movie listings ..
>
>The Adjuster. 3.5 stars.
>Blade Runner. 3 stars.
>A Brief History of Time.
>Unforgiven. 4 stars.


I would not recommend that you rely on the rating system provided
by the Mercury News.  Theirs has got to be the most inane rating
system that I have seen in any paper.  The only logic that I can
figure out that they use is to pan most any movie that has gotten
pre-release publicity; regardless of whether the movie is good or
bad.  They must be doing this make the article a piece of enter-
tainment instead of actually being a review of the movie.

I wouldn't even begin to count the number of times that I've read
a MN movie review, saw the movie and then wondered if the MN movie
reviewer and I were actually watching the same thing.



M, BATR..
..Steve Bilan
From: jimmy@clipper.ingr.com (Jimmy Blair)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Stupid Christians?
Summary: Huh?
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:30:39 GMT
Organization: Intergraph Advanced Processor Division - Palo Alto, CA


	What in the hell is this thread doing in ba.singles???

> >>Yet I have friends who are Christians, who lead very beautiful lives out
> >>of that philosophy.
> >>It's a dilemma to want to attack & destroy Christianity, yet not to
> >>want to injure people who still hold the beliefs.
> >


	  < remaining juvenile babbling deleted >
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: stupid Christians (was re: hair)
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:54:35 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <BuAn1p.Ioy@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> gordon@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Gordon Vickers) writes:
>In article <d9mn!9j.rohwerwd@netcom.com> rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer) writes:
>>     I agree.  But, I also suspect that he has been noticing stupid
>>Christians following their so-called perfect bible.
>>
>     I know some stupid Christians, and I know many gifted ones but I don't
>  know any that incourage their women to grow hair in their arm pits. 

Just curious, but does the bible recommend a Remington or Shick razor for
armpit shaving?
 
-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira     | Auspex Systems | "Auspex does not share my opinions.  |
| johnf@auspex.com | Santa Clara CA |  So Why am I still working here?"    |
+==========================================================================+
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: kehoe@netcom.com (Thomas David Kehoe)
Subject: Movies...
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 03:44:38 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

Looking through the Mercury News movie listings, there's
four I'd like to see.  Anyone want to go with me?

The Adjuster. 3.5 stars.  Canadian black comedy about
an insurance adjuster.  Los Gatos Theater.

Blade Runner. 3 stars.  "Director's cut", apparently the 
plot is different from the release in 1982.  Palo Alto/Varsity.

A Brief History of Time. 3.5 stars.  Documentary about
Stephen Hawking, the physicist.  Palo Alto Square, San Jose 3.
BTW, the director's previous documentary, Thin Blue Line,
was awesome.  Rent it if you've never seen it.

Unforgiven. 4 stars.  Clint Eastwood's latest and supposedly
best Western.  Lots of places.
-- 
"Why my thoughts are my own, when they are in, but when they are out
they are another's." - Susannah Martin, hanged for witchcraft, 1692.
Thomas David Kehoe          kehoe@netcom.com         (408) 354-5926
Newsgroups: ba.singles,ba.general
From: mlee@adaclabs.com (Mike Lee )
Subject: Re: Cirque Du Soliel: Seat recommendations?
Organization: Adac Labratories, Milpitas Ca
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:39:25 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.210009.17739@adobe.com> chesnutt@adobe.com (Stan Chesnutt) writes:
>In article <hwrn4-c.thinman@netcom.com> thinman@netcom.com (Technically Sweet) writes:
>>What are good seats for Cirque Du Soliel?
>>That is, which zones have good visibility?
>
>Unlike the opera or symphony, front-row center is probably optimum.  I
>sat towards the rear of the center section last Thursday, and everything
>fitted within the field of vision.  The action was a bit far away.
>
>If you sit close, though, you will have to decide what to watch from second-
>to-second.
>
>All in all, there probably isn't a bad seat in the house.  I'm ready for a
>rebuttal on that statement, though.
>
>-- 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Stan Chesnutt,  Adobe Systems			      chesnutt@mv.us.adobe.com

I have to agree and disagree just slightly 8^). The best section to sit in 
is section 0 (zero).  I have seen the show 3 times (2 was good enough) and 
sat in different sections up close and far away.  Last night I had tickets 
in section 0 in row "I" which were fantastic.  The poles that hold up the
tent do get in the way if you are in section 3 (viewing from the side).
Sitting up in rows A-E can be too close not allowing you to see full
"picture" that Cirque draws for you...BUT! Rows A-G are actual folding chairs
which are MUCH more comfortable than the benches in rows H-*

So, my recomendation for the best seats would be Section 0 Row G (which are
probably impossible to get).  Since those tickets are probably gone, anything 
in Section 0 is great!

Good Luck and enjoy...

         ________________________________________________________
________| Mike Lee           | I like pigs. Dogs look up to us.  |_______
\       | ADAC Laboratories  | Cats look down on us. Pigs treat  |      /
 \      | mlee@adaclabs.com  | us as equals. - Churchill         |     /
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/__________)                                                  (_________\
From: shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: I am new to this group.
Date: 10 Sep 92 01:22:34 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr, Calif.

In article <7-snwpk.bob@netcom.com> bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:
>In article <laq37kINN52h@male.EBay.Sun.COM> lesley@pleasanton.EBay.Sun.COM writes:
>>
>>			Hi!
>>
>>			 I am new to this group. I was wondering if this guy
>>			"Rick" plans all the get togethers? When and how often
>>			are they? Is everyone on this newsgroup single?
>>
>
>Hello.
>Congratulations.
>Who's "Rick"?
>They are all random.
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahhahahahahahahahhaha
>
>


Well, I didn't warrant a "Mayberry" name, so I guess I'm not
famous yet!



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Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Subject: Re: Stupid Christians?
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 17:16:37 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

In article <frwnm-p.chrish@netcom.com> chrish@netcom.com (Christina M. Hill) writes:
>In article <1992Sep12.111402.1485@tfs.com> ecsd@tfs.com (Eric C. S. Dynamic) writes:
>>Yet I have friends who are Christians, who lead very beautiful lives out
>>of that philosophy.
>>It's a dilemma to want to attack & destroy Christianity, yet not to
>>want to injure people who still hold the beliefs.
>
>Excuse me if I'm doing this wrong, this is my first flame, but I was so 
>incensed at the attitude you expressed in your last line, I had to stop
>lurking and respond.

<grin>  You're doing it exactly right, except that when you're this
vitriolic there's no need to announce that it's a flame.  As a courtesy,
you might put the following at the end of the article, "<flame mode
off>".

>You asshole, how dare you feel it is your right to try to destroy any
>religion. Attack it yes, but to want to destroy a belief system that is
>dearly held by many, including some you call your friends, puts you in 
>the same category, in my opinion, as the far right wing fundamentalist 
>Christians who want everyone to believe exactly as they do. If I was one
>of these poor unfortunates you call your "friends" I would find it very 
>condescending that you deign to like me despite this terrible flaw in my
>intelligence. Yes, I am a Christian, and proud of it, but I have many friends
>who are not, and I respect that, and they in turn respect my beliefs. How 
>can there be friendship without respect?

I'm not really sure Eric's article deserved a flame, but I am sure this
subject doesn't belong in this newsgroup.....oh, what the hell:

Chris, are you saying then that *any* belief should be treated with
respect?  I mean, what if I believe that the Earth is flat?  There are
still a large number of people who hold that belief, I assure you.
IMAO, there is nothing wrong with holding or sneering at any particular
belief -- as long as it doesn't affect your "normal" relationships.
(Note the quotes around 'normal', please, before flaming.)

Each person is complicated, and possesses many facets.  None of us is 
an Uebermensch.  Should I have any less respect for you because you
can't repair an automobile?  Live and let live at the individual level,
I say, no matter what you think of a person's beliefs in general.
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

IRWTFM -- and that ain't fun
From: Michael.Gleim@f201.n914.z8.rbbs-net.ORG (Michael Gleim)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: British Comedy Boink 12 September
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:22:04 GMT


 SJ> Do you like Monty Python, Fawlty Towers, Red Dwarf, Black
 SJ> Adder, Are You Being Served, _A_Fish_Called_Wanda_,
 SJ> _The_Hitchhiker's_Guide_To_the_Galaxy_?

Yes, yes, yes. However, I have (as they say) a previous engagement. At
an encore of the event, I could provide most of Monty's antics
(including the computer game), plus Yellowbeard (one of the sterling
movies of the century), and Anna Russell's WAGNER and G&S pieces. (I
know Wagner isn't quite British, but her exposition of the opera IS. )

Best wishes and hopes for a good time to be had by all. Careful of the
naughty bits!

MICHAEL GLEIM


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