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From: kevin@ctp.com (Kevin O'Connor)
Subject: Print ready documentation for Andrew
Organization: CTP, Inc.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:10:12 GMT

I have been looking for a printable copy of the documentation for ez, messages...
in the distribution.  Is there such a thing in the distribution?  Are there
scripts to combine the help files.  I'm finding it difficult to learn with just
the help.  

Also, I can't find much information on configuring the system once it is compiled.
We would be installing it for existing users who have things like MH folders or
mailx folders. Can we munge these into messages folders?

Thanks for any input.

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From: gk5g+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Gary Keim)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Re: Keep 'help' from opening several windows
Date: 25 Jan 93 05:02:27 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Excerpts from misc: 24-Jan-93 Keep 'help' from opening se..
dunkel@carbon.chem.utah. (2041)

> My first question is: Where can I ask lots of questions concerning
> Andrew?

This is the correct forum.  You can also feel secure in sending
ATK-format documents to this list.

Excerpts from misc: 24-Jan-93 Keep 'help' from opening se..
dunkel@carbon.chem.utah. (2041)

> Is there commercial support available or could I pay
> somebody for helping me?

The Andrew Consortium supports Andrew and acts as a clearlinghouse for
the Andrew sources.  Your organization could join at one of three
membership levels.  For more information contact the director, Fred
Hansen (wjh+@andrew.cmu.edu).

Excerpts from misc: 24-Jan-93 Keep 'help' from opening se..
dunkel@carbon.chem.utah. (2041)

> - How can I supply a new keyword to a running help process from another
>   program (with the current file being listed in the History panel)? 
>   There is a command line option for help to request a new window - but how
>   can I request to use the old one? I know about typescript. But I 
>   want to call the help system from another program. Is there a way
>   to call typescript to call help without opening a typescript window?

This feature used to be supported but I believe I removed it for some
good reason. ;^)  Let me look at the code and try to remember why.

Excerpts from misc: 24-Jan-93 Keep 'help' from opening se..
dunkel@carbon.chem.utah. (2041)

> - Is there a way to disable the "Window menu" in the help system (to
>   keep the user from opening lots of additional help windows)?

You can disable any menubar and item.  Add this to the global.helpinit
file that should be located in $(ANDREWDIR)/lib:

addmenu "" "Window~12,Show Help on...~14" help
addmenu "" "Window~12,Show Help on Selected Word~26" help

The only problem with this is that users who have .helpinit files, will
have to use the include directive to get this behavior.

% cat ~/.helpinit
include /usr/andrew/lib/global.helpinit

Excerpts from misc: 24-Jan-93 Keep 'help' from opening se..
dunkel@carbon.chem.utah. (2041)

> - Is there a way to put hypertext links in a help document and have
>   the new file be displayed in the old help window?

The newest version of help (only available to Consortium members)
includes hypertext help topics.  Those items that are surrounded with
the helptopic style (a dotted-box around the topic text), respond to a
mouse click by loading the associated document into the current window. 
I have a personal help template that puts the helptopic dotted-box style
in red on my color display.  Draw the attention.

Excerpts from misc: 24-Jan-93 Keep 'help' from opening se..
dunkel@carbon.chem.utah. (2041)

> - How can I swap right and left headers on even pages when printing
>   from the help program (like the option in "Printer Setup" in ez)?


It should be doable and this is the sort of thing Consortium members get
when they ask.

Gary Keim
Andrew Consortium
From: wdr+@rchland.ibm.com (Wayne D Richardson)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Re: selection-style change?
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:08:44 GMT
Reply-To: "Wayne D Richardson" <wdr@vnet.ibm.com>
Organization: The Internet

Excerpts from ext.misc.info-andrew: 26-Jan-93selection-style change?
Adam Stoller@andrew.cmu. (918+1)

> Before you used to get a "clean" rectangular reverse-video boxindicating
> the selection region - now you get a rectangle with a weirdmissing-piece
> at the beginning and an extra-piece at the end.  Clearly this"piece" is
> supposed to be the CRLF (or newline, whatever).

> Was this intentional?
> Is this really preferred?
> Is it necessary??

Use this preference to fix it up:

    *.HighlightToBorders: true

Wayne Richardson
wdr@vnet.ibm.com
From: rr2b+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Robert Andrew Ryan)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Re: messages bugs
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:23:04 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

<bold><excerpt>Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 26-Jan-93 messages 
bugs Robert Kemmetmueller@rch (798+2)</excerpt></bold><nl>

<nl>

<excerpt>When <bold>messages</bold> is viewing a message with a text inset, 
and the inset has input focus, <italic>some</italic> keystrokes (like spacebar)
 are intercepted by <bold>messages</bold> and perform their normal action.  
However, <italic>other</italic> keystrokes are taken, and inserted into the 
inset (even though the message it's <italic>inside of</italic> is readonly!).<
nl>
</excerpt><nl>

Yes, this is an old old issue.  (Obviously it's never been resolved reasonably.
)   Personally I believe the bindings should be done so that messages will not 
override any bindings the inset has.  Also, we should make the insets readonly,
 except there is no concept of "readonly" coded in dataobject.  (This should 
probably change.)<nl>

<nl>

<bold><excerpt>Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 26-Jan-93 messages 
bugs Robert Kemmetmueller@rch (798+2)</excerpt></bold><nl>

<nl>

<excerpt>(This is probably related to the one above.)  Whenever you do an "
Insert File" into a <bold>text</bold> inset in a message, the file gets 
inserted <italic>into the parent document</italic> (message) rather than into 
the inset.<nl>

</excerpt><nl>

I can't replicate this problem...<nl>

<nl>

-Rob<nl>
From: rr2b+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Robert Andrew Ryan)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Re: messages bugs
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:55:02 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 27-Jan-93 Re: messages bugs
Todd Inglett@rchland.ibm (710)

> Excerpts from ext.misc.info-andrew: 26-Jan-93 Re: messages bugs Robert
> Andrew Ryan@andre (1071+0)

> >> (This is probably related to the one above.)  Whenever you do an "
> >> Insert File" into a text inset in a message, the file gets inserted into
> >> the parent document (message) rather than into the inset.

> > I can't replicate this problem...

> I can reproduce it even with the new ``Members Only'' 5.2.0 release.
> Here is a more obvious way to reproduce the bug:


Yes, I was confused.

My apologies...

-Rob
From: R.Rada@compsci.liverpool.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: AMS, FLAMES
Date: 27 Jan 93 12:34:24 GMT
Organization: The Internet

How can it not work here if we have a standard system and it is
supposed to run on standard Hewlett-Packard systems?

Roy

   Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 11:12:58 +0000 (GMT)
   From: Martin Beer <M.D.Beer@uk.ac.liverpool.compsci>
   Mime-Version: 1.0
   Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
   References: <9301262018.AA10170@cal.csc.liv.ac.uk>

   Excerpts from mail: 26-Jan-93 AMS, FLAMES R.Rada@uk.ac.liverpool.c (635)

   > Given that you feel we could do significantly faster and more
   > significant, thorough experiments with FLAMES, AMS, and so on without
   > any further programming, might we please establish what are the pros
   > and cons of this so that we can write a well-argued letter to the
   > experimental officer staff (Dave Shield) as soon as possible as to why
   > we would like this software of Andrew available.  Among other things,
   > some of our M.Phil. students, such as Perena, could then pursue her
   > M.Phil. work more effectively.  Perhaps the Aide-de-Campe project
   > would be interested in collaboration in this work on email filtering
   > and such as well.
   > Roy

   Dave and myself have looked at flames several times.

   If it is to work on our machines, a significant development effort is
   required, that neither Dave nor myself have time to undertake.  I have
   been in contact with CMU several times, and they have no better idea
   than we have as to what is wrong.

   Aide-de-Camp has a much more sophisticated mailing filter which has been
   developed here.  I am told that their only interest would be to look at
   FLAMES as an example of how someone else approached a similar problem.

   I hopw this helps,

   Martin



   Dr. Martin Beer,
   Department of Computer Science,		Telephone 051-794-3672
   University of Liverpool,		Fax: 051-794-3715
   Chadwick Tower, P.O. Box 147,           EMail mdb@uk.ac.liverpool.compsci
   LIVERPOOL.  L69 3BX. United Kingdom.
From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony A. Datri)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Re: first time install question
Date: 23 Jan 93 07:16:28 GMT
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ

>I am installing andrew for the first time and have come across
>this problem.

>alquery.c: 54: Can't find include file afs/acl.h

AFS is an expensive commercial product.  You've probably got AFS_ENV defined
somewhere:  find it and remove the def.
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From: rr2b+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Robert Andrew Ryan)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Re: first time install question
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:18:02 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 21-Jan-93 first time install
question Dave Wright@ucbvax.Berke (574)


> I can not seem to find the afs directory or the header files anywhere.
> What am I doing wrong.

Check the README, and your site.h and site.mcr files.  AFS_ENV should be
turned off.  (Or if you do have AFS AFSBASEDIR needs to be set
appropriately.)

-Rob Ryan
Andrew Consortium
From: vincent@tay1.dec.com (Gary Vincent)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Information on Andrew File System
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:07:14 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Hello,

  I am contemplating a paper on the Andrew File system for a graduate-level
Distributed systems course I am taking at Boston University.

 Unfortunately, I haven't had a lot of luck finding papers, etc., that 
explain the technical aspects of the Andrew File System.

 Are there any ftp sites where I could find this kind of material? 
I apologize for sounding pushy, but I would appreciate a speedy response, since
I have to commit to a topic for this paper in the next few days.

 
 Thanks,

 Gary Vincent
From: ghoti+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Adam Stoller)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: selection-style change?
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:35:49 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Pardon me if I'm behind the times a bit here - I finally realized that
we were using old versions of the ATK software on the 6000's - and made
a new link so I could access the newer versions of the software (Gary's
post about the help-links got me curious.)

In general, I didn't see many changes (copyright in message-line) - but
I didn't really expect to either since the "old" versions weren't too
old.  

However I noticed one change which, silly though it may be, bothered me.
 The way a line of text is shown as selected has changed:
[An Andrew ToolKit view (a raster image) was included here, but could
not be displayed.]("old" on bottom - "new" on top)

Before you used to get a "clean" rectangular reverse-video box
indicating the selection region - now you get a rectangle with a weird
missing-piece at the beginning and an extra-piece at the end.  Clearly
this "piece" is supposed to be the CRLF (or newline, whatever).

Was this intentional?
Is this really preferred?
Is it necessary??

--fish
From: gk5g+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Gary Keim)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: graphic bug with Graphon?
Date: 29 Jan 93 04:58:44 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I seem to remember a bug that was reported with ATK on Graphon
XStations.  Does anyone know anything about this symptom:

1) start ez or messages or ...
2) some views come up all black, some don't, but later turn black

Gary Keim
Andrew Consortium
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
From: zstern@adobe.com (Zalman Stern)
Subject: Re: RFI: Obtaining Andrew
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 23:45:50 GMT

In article <C1Kt3M.6tC@ra.nrl.navy.mil> atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall  
Atkinson) writes:
> What is the process whereby one can legally obtain a copy of Andrew ?
> 
> Would someone please drop me an email and give me a clue ?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>   Ran
>   atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil

Perhaps we should start a competition on the most interesting way to  
*illegally* obtain a copy of ATK...
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From: tinglett+@rchland.ibm.com (Todd Inglett)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew
Subject: Re: messages bugs
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:07:30 GMT
Reply-To: "Todd Inglett" <tinglett@vnet.ibm.com>
Organization: The Internet

Excerpts from ext.misc.info-andrew: 26-Jan-93 Re: messages bugs Robert
Andrew Ryan@andre (1071+0)

>> (This is probably related to the one above.)  Whenever you do an "
>> Insert File" into a text inset in a message, the file gets inserted into
>> the parent document (message) rather than into the inset.

> I can't replicate this problem...

I can reproduce it even with the new ``Members Only'' 5.2.0 release.
Here is a more obvious way to reproduce the bug:

Open a sendmessage window and click in the body.  Insert a ps inset.
Click to put the input focus inside the ps inset.  Now choose Insert
File from the menu and insert any file you like.  The file will not
insert into the ps inset.

-todd inglett
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.matlab
From: jbeck@afit.af.mil (Jeffrey A. Beck)
Subject: Re: DISP1:  disp1.m - display text and numbers 
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 10:36:10 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.152729.26892@news.columbia.edu> mnb2@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Mark Broadie) writes:
>Trying to continue the trend, here is an m-file for display
>text and numbers to the screen on a single line.  I had m-files
>filled with statements like
>   disp('x measures blah blah, its value is');  disp(x);
>which (a) uses 2 display statements and (b) does not appear
>on a single line on the screen.  The m-file disp1.m allows the
>statement
>   disp1('x measures blah blah, its value is ', x);
>
>Keep these submissions coming!
>
>-mark broadie

Mark,
  Try: disp(sprintf('x measures blah blah, it's value is %g',x))
It works on the PC version 3.5 I'm using.

Jeff

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Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.matlab
From: craigj@irus.rri.uwo.ca ( Craig Jones)
Subject: Re: Are .m files available on ftp-sites?
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:53:59 GMT

There are quite a few that can be found at:  research.att.com
The directory is /netlib/matlab/*

Each of the directories contains an index.Z file which is probably
the best way of finding out what is available there.

Craig.

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E-mail: craigj@irus.rri.uwo.ca                    Imaging Research
From: bgeorge@grumpy.sanders.lockheed.com (E. Bryan George)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.matlab
Subject: Re: Figure/image update question.
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:04:12 GMT
Followup-To: comp.soft-sys.matlab
Organization: Lockheed Sanders Inc.
In-reply-to: craigj@irus.rri.uwo.ca's message of 21 Jan 93 23:00:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.230058.5077@julian.uwo.ca> craigj@irus.rri.uwo.ca ( Craig Jones) writes:

   What I am doing is reading in an 8-bit image and would like to
   pick some points on it.  I can plot the points on the image
   but every point that is plotted Matlab clears the figure and 
   redraws the whole thing.  This is WAY too slow.

   What I am hoping is that there is some way in Matlab to turn
   off the redraw/refresh??

In Matlab 4, you can do this by specifiying a plot as a graphics
object then using the 'set' command to change the data in the plot
without redrawing the axis.  Look at ODE23P for further clues.

   Thanks.

You're welcome.

   Craig.

Bryan.

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Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.matlab
From: johnk@exlog.com (John Kingman)
Subject: Poor Customer Service By Matlab
Reply-To: johnk@exlog.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 21:52:05 GMT


Have other users had trouble getting the MATLAB (Mathworks)
staff to respond to e-mail messages?  If so please voice your
complaints.

I purchased MATLAB for 486 in summer '92 with assurances that 
the 4.0 version was forthcoming and would be an automatic
upgrade.  They have obviously not met the time promise 
but apparently do not intend to keep the free upgrade promise
either and are talking about $200 to $300!

I am up to roughly 6 e-mail messages to various Mathworks 
personnel since November concerning this and other problems,
and have not received one response!  I see disturbing evidence 
that a once good service and product is headed the same direction 
as most other US businesses ...downhill.  Did MBA's or accountants 
take over the management?

How professional/responsive is the Mathematica group?
From: eg23+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ergin Guney)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.matlab
Subject: test, ignore
Date: 26 Jan 93 11:44:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.QfNP3L_00WB7FaOUZe
Organization: Masters student, Industrial Administration, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

test text
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.matlab
From: craig@isl.Stanford.EDU (Craig Barratt)
Subject: Re: Figure Caption (mixing LaTeX and matlab plots)
Keywords: figure caption
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 19:56:35 GMT

In article <1jmuqlINNfal@phys2adm.usc.edu> ysun@phys2adm.usc.edu writes:

>I am currently using MATLAB-4.0 on SPARC station. I mainly use it for scienti-
>fic plotting. But I have some problem in writing Greek letters in the figure.
>Does anybody know how to do it in MATLAB?  Maybe at least using Latex.

I have written some LaTeX macros that make it easy to overlay postscript
figures with fragments of LaTeX.  I use these macros to place nice
LaTeX equations and math symbols on top of postscript figures.  The
macros are available via anonymous ftp as described below.

Description:

* PsFrag is a set of LaTeX macros for overlaying postscript figures with
  fragments of LaTeX.  More precisely, the PsFrag macros allow specific
  pieces of postscript text in a postscript figure (included via \epsfbox
  or \special) to be replaced with arbitrary fragments of LaTeX.  When
  your document is latex'ed and dvips'ed, each piece of postscript text
  is replaced by the LaTeX text.
  
  The postscript file might be produced, for example, by xfig, idraw,
  matlab, xmath, etc.  Each string displayed by postscript's show operator
  is a candidate for replacement by LaTeX text, math symbols, equations,
  pictures etc.  For example, you can include a matlab plot in a LaTeX
  document with the title, axis labels, and legend generated by LaTeX.

  The LaTeX fragments can be optionally rotated, scaled, and repositioned
  relative to the text being replaced.  The LaTeX fragments automatically
  track the postscript text position as the scaling and offsets of the
  \special or \epsfbox are changed.

* PsFrag is available via anonymous ftp from isl.stanford.edu
  (internet address 36.60.0.10).  Get the compressed tar file

	pub/boyd/psfrag/psfrag.tar.Z

  Extract the archive using uncompress and tar xvf (or gtar zxvf):

	uncompress psfrag.tar.Z
	tar xvf psfrag.tar

  See the files README, USAGE, INSTALL for detailed information.
  If you can't ftp then I can email you a uuencoded version.

* Note: PsFrag uses ghostscript (gs) from the gnu distribution, and assumes
  that your dvi to ps driver is Tomas Rokicki's dvips (Radical Eye Software).
  You will need both of these programs to use PsFrag.  Basically, PsFrag uses
  ghostscript to interpret the postscript figure and spit out a LaTeX
  picture environment that exactly lines up with the postscript figure.

Craig Barratt
craig@isl.stanford.edu
From: ERMIMWEI@er.ele.tue.nl (Wim Beckers)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.matlab
Subject: Debugging MEX files
Date: 27 Jan 93 11:33:07 GMT
Organization: Electrical Engineering, Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands

We have problems in debuging matlab executables on PC's.

On VMS this is fairly simple. Just use the code below and the debugger
will be  started whenever lib$signal is called.  

#include libdef
#define SS$_debug 1132

 lib$signal(SS$_debug);


On PC's ( metaware compiler) I don't know how to activate the debugger
from a MEX file.


Is there some way to debug MEX files on PC ?
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From: peterh@tdb.uu.se (Peter Haegglund)
Subject: Re: Matlab4.0 versus Framemaker3.1.1
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:37:10 GMT

Jeffrey C. Kantor (jeff@control.nd.edu) wrote:
: I find myself unable to import eps files generated by Matlab 4.0 into
: Framemaker.  I get a frame, but no graphics either on the printer or
: the screen.

We have had the same problem at our department. We are using
FrameMaker 3.0X and MatLab 4.0a. The problem is that MatLab
puts the line

          %%EOF

at the end of the file. If you remove 
that line it should work. If you want to see the graphics in
FrameMaker, use the -preview switch:

          print -deps -preview filename

it takes up a lot more disk space, but it's easier to 
place the graphics correctly in the document. If you do not,
you will only see a gray area.

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