From: u9148043@cs.uow.edu.au (Justin Jay Lister)
Subject: Re: Clinton/Gore (Was: A4000 graphics)
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 06:30:11 GMT

torban@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Torban Bennett) writes:

>WARNING: Net lurker breaks cover!
>WARNING: Non Amiga post (sorry) Hit 'N' if likely to be offended.

Naw, Keating is offensive you just have to learn to enjoy it.

[a few ppl wrote]

>[stuff about not talking politics in an amiga news group]
>[and there's some stuff missing about european elections instead of US]
>[and some more stuff about Australian politics.  Keating and Hewson were
>mentioned]

>>Who are these people?  Remember - I'd like to hear about it.

>OK, you asked for it (and that's what I love about this group.  You can
>spend an hour reading this, and pick up news on everything from politics,
>gun control, crime, sexism, advertising, ALL computer platforms, which state
>is better than which state, comics [what no comics!.  Stay tuned folks!])

>Well in Australia there are two main political groups.  The Australian
>labour party, and the Liberals.  Labour is lead by Paul Keating, who used to
>be the treasurer (he won some international award years ago for best in the
>world or something?) they've been in power for 4 terms I think (a record for
>labour, led by Bob Hawke, who was challanged, by his long time friend
>Keating earlier this year and lost)

Now Keating is consider by most to be very arogant, some find this his charm.
Each week I try and catch the question time (we get broadcast of parliment
via channel 2 (ABC)). Now this is the time where the politicans try to perform.

It is very hard for me to provide a fair judgment of both sides...
So I won't I will let some hewson supporter so his affection for the dweeb..
Keating is very very cunning, even when he makes a mistake (he turns out the
victor), this is due to hewson (yeah I know I am not capitalising his name) 
coming out a making a bigger 'stupider' bungle. Question time is one of the
best australian comedies I have seen.
For instance: (unbiased and produced in a sort of unedited fashion)

Keating is owner of a piggery (rather amusing that libs haven't used this in
any form of point scoring). And he was late with his tax statements for the 
company. Anyway the libs had lined up a few of its members to ask questions
on why his returns were late (this was intended to make a fool of him) [is 
very hard to show the full extent of the humour, facial expression etc..]
Anyway as it turns out Keating was supsecting this attack and he had pulled
out some info on the oposition. Hewson had a 3yr late return and most of his
previous had been late, the guy they got up to attack Keating had late returns.
Anyway It was a highly comical session, especially when Keating got going.

I will try and jot down some quotes for you in the future.

>The liberals (don't let the name confuse you, they are actually the
>conservatives.) are led by Dr John Hewson (Who drives a red Ferrari!)

And is stupid enough to claim "How can you trust a man that doesn't like
cars, and doesn't have kids" (about N.S.W labour leader Bob Carr) yeah
very funny considering he is a carr :) .

>They've been out of office for 12 years I think, and have had several
>different leaders during that time.  They were quite disorganised, didn't
>have any charismatic leaders (like Hawke) or any policies.  

>Hewson changed all that, he's got them all in order, but the policies are quite
>controvertial.  He want's to lower taxes (so far so good) but add a goods
>and services tax (GST) onto a practically everything (including food and
>clothing).  This GST is similar to those active in New Zealand, and the VAT
>in the UK.

>Anyway, Keating has never been the popular leader Hawke was, and Australia,
>like a lot of other contries has had its economy in recession.  So of course
>the ruling party has the heat put on.  An election is due anytime over the
>next 4 months, and its been interesting watching Keating and his ministers
>having the usual flame war with Hewson and his guys, during parliament.
>Both sides are very experienced with the flame throwers!

Except Keating has a 90% better aim.

>Well, now everyones really mad I posted such a long un-related post.
>But its not as if I do this thing all the time.  Flame me if you must...


>Torban Bennett - Lurker at Large       torban@murdoch.edu.au
>Murdoch Uni, 
>Western Australia.   (Don't flame them, they had nothing to do with it ;-)
>>-- 
>>Dan Stephenson                                                 das9674@usl.edu  
>>"There once was a Lady from Hyde/who ate some bad apples and died/but while we
>>lamented/the apples fermented/making cider inside her inside!" 
>>                        -Member of the Court, Texas Renaissance Festival  

Keating would put most flamers in here to shame. Anyway look out for my Keating
quotes.. If you don't want to see em TOO BAD there is the 'n' key 8).
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