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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: Re: Superman rebirth
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:03:08 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.131419.1@hamp.hampshire.edu> jlmiller@hamp.hampshire.edu writes:
>This is an attempt to reply to David A. Z.....I hate this system......
>
>Ok, if all of Post-Crisis didn't exist...then why does everyone remember Barry
>Allen? And Dove (the first one)? And a number of the heroes who died? And if
>only the post-Crisis Crisis is remembered, then what about all the people who
>remember considerably more of the Crisis than red skies and one battle (which
>almost none of the heroes who took part seem to remember)? see my previous post
>and the followups for that thread.

I'll take this 1,

Barry and Dove 1 are remembered because their pasts were NOT wiped away by
Crises.  They died in the Post-Crises Crises, too.

One of the big changes between Pre and Post universes is that Only one person
survived Krypton's explosion, Kal-El. There was never a bottled city of Kandor,
nor was there EVER a Supergirl (Matrix does not count).

Barry exsited in the Post Crises World, He just died durring the battle with the
anti-monitor.
Same with Dove 1, Kole, and several others.

Got it yet?

----SCAVENGER


Barry and Dove 1 are remembered because their pasts were NOT wiped away by 
Crises.  They died in the Post-Crises Crises, too.

One of the big changes between Pre and Post universes is that Only one person
survived Krypton's explosion, Kal-El. There was never a bottled city of Kandor,
nor was there EVER a Supergirl (Matrix does not count). 

Barry exsited in the Post Crises World, He just died durring the battle with the
anti-monitor.
Same with Dove

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From: silvers3@husc8.harvard.edu (Jolyon Silversmith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Analysis of Superman's mating techniques as told
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:42:46 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

One of the many problems I find with Niven's "Man of Steel, Woman of
Kleenex" is that he is inconsistent. He asserts that Kryptonian
mating practices are distinct from human practices, but then
assumes that the moral taboo of relationships between first
cousins (ie, Supergirl) applies. Huh? We don't even know if it is
a genetic concern, much less a Kryptonian ethical concern?

Furthermore, although the story is a bit old, Niven also ignores
the possibility of Supergirl/Kara Zor-El serving as a surrogate
for an implanted embryo, not to mention the whole bottled city of
Kandor, time travel, etc;

Picky, picky.


-- 
Jolyon A. Silversmith __________________________________________________________
silvers3@husc.harvard.edu            President             "Eternal Vigilance is
Mather House 100              ACLU of Harvard College      the Price of Liberty"
Cambridge, MA 02138 ____________________________________________________________
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From: tyg@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Crisis on r.a.c.
Organization: Interleaf
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 01:12:36 GMT

Um, whoever issued the rmgroup, I think something's gone horribly wrong.

I mean, first my b&w screen somehow started showing a red background.
Then this ghostly image of Jayembee shows up next to the reference shelf
murmuring about the anti-newsgroup scimoc.stra.cer and how we can't
let the fate of net.comics be revisited.

And now I seem to have four counterparts all crowded around waiting for
their crack at the keyboard. They've asked to be identified as misc-tyg
(looks the most like Richard Pini), strips-tyg (looks the most like Matt
Groening), xbooks-tyg (looks the most like Walt Simonson), and info-tyg
(looks the most like a Connection Machine). And I seem to be fading out....

"What's happen in Suicide Squid? Please tell me.(I don't read S.S.)"
  --Sakai Mitsuhiro (probably the most memorable thing ever posted to r.a.c.)
tyg   tyg@hq.ileaf.com, formerly tyg@oz.ai.mit.edu, galloway@vaxa.isi.edu,
      galloway@elma.epfl.ch, tyg@eecs.umich.edu on r.a.c.
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From: U58402@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Sand-Superman (was Re: REBIRTHING THE BIG RED S
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:10:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: uicvm.92273.131045U58402
 <1992Sep29.101109.8965@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com>
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

In article <1992Sep29.101109.8965@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com>,
hodge@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com says:
>>
>  Did anyone else think that the Superman special ("Kryptonite No More")
>this month ended a bit ambiguously?  To spell it out, perhaps the Superman
>we see in the last panels is actually the Sand-Creature, and the real
>Supes is in some sort of suspended-animation in the Fortress...

I seem to remember about 20 years ago, there was the same story about
the destruction of all the Kryptonite on Earth and the formation of a
sand creature. Was the recent special just a copy of that story?

Wilbur Pan
(aka u58402@uicvm.uic.edu
 at the ever so friendly and personal univ. of ill. at chicago)
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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: REBIRTHING THE BIG RED S
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 03:34:48 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

gwangung@milton.u.washington.edu (Just another theatre geek.....):
>	Yah, but what would be really twisted would be for Lex to resurect
>Supes--and leave it at that, knowing that Supes is now HIS hero. Would add
>a whole 'nother level to their confrontations....

And to make sure Superman never forgets it, he could tamper -- just a bit --
so that a bit of the new Superman's hair always stands on end, no matter
how he combs it. :)
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From: dat@thinkage.on.ca (David Adrien Tanguay)
Subject: Re: What happens when a newsgroup dies?
Keywords: Goodbye.
Organization: Thinkage, Ltd.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:17:42 GMT

moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime) writes:
>In <1992Sep29.191600.26112@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Enrique Conty) writes:
>>Someone should write an epitaph for r.a.c.  Preferably someone with
>>more experience with it (and better memory!) than me.
>
>            "It's been a lark."

Did anybody ever write an epitaph for net.comics? Where's me Geritol...
-- 
David Tanguay       dat@Thinkage.on.ca  dat@Thinkage.com  uunet!thinkage!dat
Thinkage, Ltd.           Kitchener, Ontario, Canada          [43.40N 80.47W]
From: cen@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Sandman:Men of good fortune
Date: 29 Sep 92 01:39:11 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620


 morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (Thomas Elmo Edison) writes:

[Men of Good Fortune]

>> Living for as long as you wish and being an Endless' only friend is being
>> "just folks"? *boggle* Constantine didn't think so.
> 
> 	I dunno; Gaiman hits the "folks is just folks" over and over again 
> with Hob as observer/POV.  From page 23:  "I doubt I'm any wiser than I was
> five hundred years back.  I'm older....Have I learned ought?  I've learned 
> from my mistakes, but I've had time to commit more mistakes....Listen, I've 
> seen people, and they don't change.  Not in the important things."

But this is all from the viewpoint of someone with little emotional engagement
in the fates of men. He has stepped outside the ever-present pattern of death
which shapes much of human existence. His attitude to slavery is very much of
the owner of the dollshouse, rather than a doll's.

Dream is involved in the patterns of people with a similar emotional
detachment. He realises where the true control should lie, however, as the
self-absorbed Desire does not.

> 	Who Hob is has zip to do with the theme.  Hob enables the story to
> observe a long stretch of human history so as to make the judgment that people
> don't change.

No. It is important that Hob is who he is. We don't see a stocks'n'shares
investor, a life-insurance scam, any deviation from the patterns men set at
all. Hob is a doll. His recognition of Dream's motives after several hundred
years is important in looking at the power relationships of _A Doll's House_.

Hob breaks the pattern of inevitable death, but only with Death's consent. He
is a slightly atypical example of humanity who sits well in the same arc as
other explorations: a family which holds responsibility for major human affect,
a family which hoards a vortex, a dream playing at a human concerned with 
issues of identity, people with blurred gender roles or integration with
normality (the connoisseur, Hal, the serial killers as a set), the whole gamut
of observers and observed which make up a doll's house.

> 	I still don't see the connection between MoGF and the rest of DH.
> MoGF says that people don't change; they live and die with grand emotion and
> petty scale.  They always have and they always will.  DH is populated with 
> nothing but ABnormalities--the most MoGH-"human" character is Gilbert, who is 
> an incarnate dream!  There is a vast difference in scale between MoGF and DH,
> and the two don't map to each other.  No fractal symmetry here.
> 	I really need to hear Neil's explanation of this for the AS.

But Hob himself is an anomaly, whatever his protestations of normality.

Tanaqui
From: bc751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Howard Z. Shiau)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Marvel Collector's Comic
Date: 28 Sep 1992 19:12:17 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bc751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Howard Z. Shiau)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Anyone out there know of the comic that Marvel is giving out to
people who send in Charleston Chew wrappers?  It was supposed
to have 4 stories in it.  Is it good?

Howard
-- 
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From: hs0sagg@sunlab1.bath.ac.uk (S A G Granville)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: SURVEY:  Our buying habits
Date: 6 Oct 92 10:45:39 GMT
Organization: Bath University Computing Services, UK

>> $250 a month!  Are you insane?
>
>Yes, but that's beside the point.  :-)
>
>> > So, DOES Dave VanDom spend too much?  (I know I do).  Let the people speak!
>> >  How much do YOU spend?
>> 
>> Maybe ten bucks a month.
>
>Slow week:  I spend less than $20 on comics.
>
>But I agree, $250 a month (or about $50-$60 a week) is pushing it.

I have now (that I am back at University and not doing any overtime) set myself a limit of 15 pounds ($22ish) per week for titles plus whatever else crops up in the way of statues, trading cards , storage , posters etc.

Just telling it like it is. 

Toodle pip.

Simon.
From: faber@loon.cs.wisc.edu (Ted)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Not really Re: What constitutes a "classic" character
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:38:22 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences

dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:

>                                                (I feel old having seen Star 
>Wars in the theaters, esp when the 14 yr old in my gaming group misses a joke 
>from [Star Wars])

	Completely unacceptable.  This child lives in a video age, and not
	having seen a SF(antasy) standard like Star Wars is grounds for
	*expulsion* from your gaming group.  Rent him the tapes and teach
	him the importance of the Force.  Or of duct tape.

	These kids today.....

"I love the sound of large directories being 'rm -r'ed." -- Jim Elliott

-- 
Ted Faber		Figment at Large		  faber@loon.cs.wisc.edu
-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
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From: dardiswa@cda.mrs.umn.edu (Wayne A. Dardis 1500099)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Opinions on Wizard
Date: 1 Oct 92 00:58:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Minnesota - Morris

I have to agree that much of Wizard seems like fluff, but there are
some good points to be made also.  While the price guide is far
from the most trustworthy, i do like to read the some of the interviews.
While lately it seems to be centered on the flashy artists they have
had a few good ones like Joe Jusko's and i also kinda liked the
Neal Adams one (Though he seems to have a big ego to me, maybe he
partially deserves it, maybe not i'll let you decide).  Another thing
that's interesting to read is the section, A letter from the editor.
I find that he makes some very good points which seems to contrast
with the content of the magazine itself.  Again this is my opinion, so
you should judge for yourself.  Just to make my point tho, the recent
issue has him talking about how to many people overlook the importance
of the writer and concentrate on the artist.  No wonder it's the
smallest segment in the whole magazine.  I must admit too that i like
the cards and posters even though some of you don't.  It's just that
little more incentive to buy it, not for the price guide or top ten
lists, but for the reasons stated above.


-Psycho


-- 
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 I'm merely using a friends account, got it?      |views are not those| 
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From: ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu (Eric J. Olson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Sandman #43
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:12:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: raven.1992Oct5.191351.21633
	<1992Oct4.202806.24872@news.nd.edu>
	<1992Oct5.181027.2718@cheshire.oxy.edu>
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Organization: Citizens for Boysenberry Jam Fans

In article <1992Oct5.181027.2718@cheshire.oxy.edu> rooney@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael Sean Rooney) writes:
>In article <1992Oct4.202806.24872@news.nd.edu> mkelly@bronte.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly) writes:
>>
>>Also, is this issue the first appearance of Destruction's sigil? Notice
>>the sword hanging in his gallery.
>>
>	Not only that, but we also know that Destruction is one of
>the `Younger' Endless, if the division of sigils between his gallery walls
>is any indication.

Well, in fact, we already knew that he is the middle endless; in order
of "age," they are Destiny, Death, Dream, Destruction, Desire,
Despair, Delight.

Eric Olson <ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu>
From: levin6706@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Miracleman #23: Afterthinks; SPOILERS
Date: 5 Oct 92 02:05:36 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Oct3.150609.1481@news.yale.edu>, Sascha Segan <sascha@minerva.cis.yale.edu> writes:
> In article <1992Oct3.071351.27031@netcom.com> Dani Zweig, dani@netcom.com
> writes:
> 
> 	Ooooh. I read MM #23 several times the other day, and have noticed a
> bunch of incongruities that NG said he'll clear up but won't quite say
> how. Why, for instance, do the Miraclekids seem just like ordinary
> teenagers with superpowers - except for Mist and Winter, who are still
> basically Mist and Winter?
> 	As regards that particular problem, there's one line that sticks out in
> my mind. When one of the MKs (Panorama) says something which would not be
> coming out of the mouth of a seventeen-year-old of average intelligence,
> she is admonished to "not go out of character." I think they're fooling
> us; but what are they doing and why are they doing it?
> 	Yeah, MM does seem kind of out of it.
> 
> ----Sascha

        It seems to me that they're simply playing a game.  They're heightend
individuals who seem to find enjoyment in dressing up and playing superhero. 
Perhaps it's Gaiman's parody of comic book fans and their fantasies.  Besides, 
what else are they going to do with their spare time?  The obviously have no
vested interest in normal humanity considering the way they completely 
demolished the World Trade Center, disregarding the moral subject of 
endangering human life.  So, essentially they are not *being* superheros, 
they're *playing* superhero. Didn't you ever do that when you were a kid?  
A real life (so to speak) version of Villians and Vigilantes or some such.

        --shylock, who just did his laundry.  So I guess that makes me the
               Laundering Jew.  Go figure.
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From: markb@cimage.com (Mark Bernstein)
Subject: Re: Hepcats
Organization: Cimage Corp, Ann Arbor, MI
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 14:13:16 GMT

Jed Bowtell (jed@matilda.vut.edu.au) wrote:
: Could somebody please give me a bit of information
: on Hepcats? It looks very interesting and I'm
: thinking of starting to collect it but would still
: like to know more about it.
: 
: Jed

	Highly, *highly* recommended.  Hepcats is the one and only comic
I subscribe to, rather than buying at the local shop.  Since my local shop
is good about special ordering for me, I mainly subscribed because Martin
(that's Martin Wagner, writer/artist/publisher of Hepcats) ran an
editorial begging for subscriptions so he could have enough cash flow
to keep going.

	Hepcats has been compared to Omaha, mainly because it has 
anthropomorphic characters, a lead female who's a topless dancer, and
occasional sex scenes, as well as a "soap opera" feel.  For my money,
though, Hepcats is better drawn and has deeper characterizations, 
along with a far better sense of humor.

	Hepcats is a rarity - a completely self-published book that's
actually *good*.  If you can get your retailer to carry it, do so.  If
you have the money, contact Double Diamond (that's Martin's company)
and subscribe.  This is a book that deserves to survive.

	(Note: Some people are bothered by the fact that publication
is irregular.  I take the view that I'd rather have it good than
on time, and if it succeeds well enough that Martin can devote full
time to it, we'll see it more often.)

Mark Bernstein
markb@cimage.com


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From: wsm26@cas.org (Wayne Mills)
Subject: Re: Charleston Chew Comic
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:07:35 GMT

I've found the candy bar thing locally.  I'd be willing to buy the candy
and mail you the wrapper(s) if you covered my costs and sent me a self
addressed stamped envelope.  (I'm not going to waste my time addressing
and stamping envelopes so you'd better send me exactly what I'll put
the wrappers into to get it to you. 
 A normal envelope, addressed and stamped should do it.)

E-mail me if you're interested.  Of course if I get a few hundred
thousand replies I may choose to withdraw my offer, but if it's only
a dozen or two that's no problem.  (If I eat too many candy bars I'll
get cavities you know!  And the darn things are very, very chewy...)

---------------

    Woody:  Would you like a beer, Mr. Peterson?
    Norm:   No, I'd like a dead cat in a glass.

---------------
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From: morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (Lake Elmo, MN)
Subject: Re: Gaiman signings
Organization: Calm Blue Water...and a Muskie the Size of Boise
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 22:21:32 GMT
X-Posted-From: fnalo.fnal.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Oct3.014503.5314@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver) writes:
> I was recently asked when Neil would be signing again, and where. I don't
> believe the following info. appears in r.a.c.i:
> January: Two (?) signings for DEATH: The High Cost of Living, to help launch
>          the Vertigo line. Probably Miami & Houston, maybe.
                                              ^^^^^^^
	YAY!!!  I finally get to meet him!  He just better have a good
explanation ready for Men of Good Fortune :-)
-- 
Simon: "They call him the whacker because he uses his axe to kill his victims."
Dad:   "Now, come on!  I've heard rumors he was Eerie's last living            
        liberal, but..."                                                       
Simon: "What's a liberal?"                                                     
Dad:   "I'll explain it to you when you're older."                             
Mom:   "Well, I don't care whether he's a liberal or an axe murderer, I want   
        you boys to stay clear of him.  Understood?"                           
Marshall: "Yes, Mom."                                                          
--"Eerie, Indiana"                                                             
  
elmo (morrow@physics.rice.edu,morrow@fnal.fnal.gov)
From: jonnya@ifi.uio.no (Jonny Axelsson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: CEREBUS 161: Sitting roaches
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:28:19 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Cc: jonnya
Originator: jonnya@urd.ifi.uio.no

(This is basically a followup to an earlier, slightly longer posting I made)

Cerebus 161 seems to affirm that the Roach is the black pawn at E7, making
its taking by the white queen rather omious. But I suspect the taking is
non-fatal (partly by the over-obviousness, the chess figurines, the
checkerboard floor (where he sits in the position of the bishop, not the
pawn). Care to speculate in the few remaining days before 162 (given that the
duo seems to be in an amphetamine-crunching eriod). I opt for "trick".

Bran as bishop was beautifully handled (Cerebus lost because the failure of
the bishop to go far enough in the defence of the king).

I distrust the current manifestation of of Suenteus (Judge III, as opposed to
harmless hash freak in 20 and political schemer in 28). It makes sense
(different spheres after all), but the next manifestation will be quite
different (my guess).

Elsewhere: I infer that the Eye in the pyramid is aKevillist plot, the
implications are widee-ranging (and you though you had problems with *your*
ex-wife).

Thats it for now,
Jonny
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From: MHANNINEN@finabo.abo.fi (Mika H{nninen Inf)
Subject: Re: Savage Dragon (Image) and Robo/Term (DH) have been print
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 02:31:32 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

In <30SEP92.21692590.0091@VM1.MCGILL.CA> CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA writes:


> Sorry, I didn't buy either so I don't have any details.
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>                                 ! Address as above or use
> Martin Phipps                   ! LOULA@hep.physics.mcgill.ca or simply
>                                 ! MUHEP::LOULA if you're on a VAX
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Terminal freeze, duplicate posts, lost posts and email-come-posts,
> these are a few of my least favorite things.

Uh...Is this news? They have been on the shelves for several weeks now...
			-Mika
From: imcc@cs.strath.ac.uk (Iain McCord)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: New Destruction! (SPOILER)
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:43:45 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Scotland.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


Destruction has 'hung up his sword'.  He's retired.
-- 

		~~~~~/\~~~~~
Iain McCord	~~~~/()\~~~~	Tue Oct  6 18:43:42 WET DST 1992
		~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: Melita L Kennedy <mlkenned@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Pro-choice Popeye reprinted?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 02:17:23 GMT

I remember hearing about the firing of the writer and/or artist on the
Popeye comic strip due to a disagreement over a story that he did.  One
of my friends is interested in reading the strips in question, and heard
that they were to be reprinted in a magazine.  Anyone have any information?

Thanks!
Melita
mlkenned@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
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