From: ftsomers@cs.tcd.ie (fergal somers)
Subject: Re: ... speed ...
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin (Computer Science)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 11:30:25 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.004207.1@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au> edd709psft@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au writes:
>From the guy who sparked the LSD discussion (and consequently got his ass
>flamed!) I have a question regarding SPEED.
 
[...]
>Anyway, I'd be interested to see what people think and here about anyone's
>experiences.

Firstly, I don't claim to understand SPEED a la alt.drugs, all I can
offer is my own experiences and the opinions of die-hard ravers at our
local rave. As to its long-term effects etc. ask the pharmacologists,
I nowhere near qualified to say.

The main reason the ravers I know take speed is because you quickly
build-up a resistance to the effects of E, you take longer to come-on,
the experience is less intense, and you come down quicker. This coupled
with the possibility of obtaining low-grade E at a rave seems to make
a stong case. The ideal combination, for the seasoned raver is a tab of
E and 1/4 gram of speed, an E and a tab of acid, or just acid and speed.
The last option is generally regarded here as quite dodgy (if noticably 
cheaper, E-$25, Acid-$7, Speed-$20(per 1/2)) and can often lead to a
bad time. E and Acid comes second, but most people spend the first 1-2
hours completely out of their head and then get into raving, I see this
as a wasted two hours at a rave (but that's me). Way ahead, in first
place is E and speed. They complement each other, the E gives you the 
euphoria, the energy and the need to party, the speed gives you the
NEED to dance hard. Hours later when the E begins to wear-off, the
speed stops you from coming down, you still have this NEED to dance or
do something. very good. In general it enhances the initial effects of 
E and promotes them longer than normal, up until the time you are
operating purely on residual speed. 

Of course people go to raves purely on speed, these however are easy
to spot - they are more intense and worked-up, aggressive about the
need to dance. If you just take speed, you'll most certainly develop
the NEED, the NEED to do something, anything; and the first thing your
mind will settle-on will become really important. Don't take it on
your own, and try and take it at something like a rave where there
is an enjoyable atmosphere - its better that way.

Speed inhibits your appetite, that coupled with the effects of E and 5-8
hours raving can make you lose lots of weight - hence the wasted skinny
youth look at raves.

Of course with speed, like acid, there can be a loong
tail-off , you can be awake for hours afterwards. Generally, as long as
you want to stay awake doing stuff you will (up to a point), especially
if there are a group of you in a similar state - you'll feed of the
nervous energy of each other. If however, you retire to tranquil
surroundings, you'll be awake for an hour or two and then begin to
come down quite quickly.  

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