From: nmehl@rm105serve.sas.upenn.edu (Nathan J. Mehl)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality
Subject: Re: Foard and FWA Rail Me About Posting As Ronnie Jr.
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:51:55 GMT
Reply-To: nmehl@rm105serve.sas.upenn.edu
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <9204081503.AA03918@Compuserve.Com> 70750.2052@Compuserve.Com ("Ronni
e Jr.") writes:
>He's getting a little better at debating.. entropy@yaya (Lawrence C Foard) sez:
>
>>>Oh, gosh... The little sissy Dutch wanted to remain neutral.
>>
>>And the same thing will happen to queers if they follow your advice of going
>>back into the closet.
>>
>I was hoping you wouldn't catch the parallel there.  It is true that if you
>queers stopped standing up for what you believe is right, you would not
>get ANY respect from me.  But, unfortunately, it's kind of difficult to
>respect a man who sucks another man's dick, REGARDLESS of what he does.

Back up a second, ronnie.  When *were* you giving us any respect?

>No one attacked me.  *I* did not sendsys anyone.  I realize that sendsys
>is not good for the net as a whole, although it is not NEARLY as harmful
>to the "net" as you queers are making it out to be.  The net has LOTS of
>bandwidth to spare and one or two sendsyses aren't going to bring the
>entire U.S. Internet to its knees.

Read news.admin, ronnie.  Us queers aren't the only ones who consider
sendsys bombing to be more than a minor annoyance.

>Hindsight is 20/20.  In the heat of battle, rash decisions are made.  I
>dare say that you queers will think twice before sendsys'ing Dark Knight
>again since you know you will get it back in spades if you do.  In THAT
>light, his response was much more effective than a complaint that MAY
>have resulted in a minor slap on the wrist for you.

Er, ronnie, if none of us know who Dark Knight is (so far), how could
we have sendsysed him?  Moreover, DK never (that I saw) stated that his
bombings were a response to an attack on him.  His posts have made it very
clear that he's simply been bombing anyone who posts something to the
net that he considers inappropriate.

>>Hackers do it for fun.
>>"Profesionals" do it for money.
>>Managers have others do it for them.
>Bisexuals do it with anything that moves.

Not by a long shot, ronnie.  You, for instance, keep moving from system
to system, and I wouldn't fuck you if I were blindfolded, noseplugged and
on 20 hits of acid.  (Not that this news is likely to ruin your day or
anything, but I figured I should go on the record.)

>First of all, if Dark Knight posted a real mail address, he would be
>sendsysed 10 times within a day.  If you deny this, you are full of shit.

BZZZT!  Wrong!  When (and it's not an if) we get DK's real name and
address, we're not going to bother sendsysing him- that'd be punishing
his sysop for his stupidity.  More likely, the sysops of the systems that
he managed to crash (notably wintermute) will probably sue him to
smithereens...

>As to me posting using my real name, I think your homo pals are on a
>head-hunt for me as is.  They are already working on getting me kicked
>off of ALL net access.  They also seem QUITE eager to pursue either
>legal or illegal harassment OFF the net, if they could find out my real

Sorry, ronnie, but some of us aren't as stupid as you are.  I'll stick
to legal harassment myself- I'll let *you* be the one who fucks up and
gets carted off, thankyewverymuch...

>name.  Evidence, you say?  Not to mention the original threat by Nelson
>Minar to have me investigated by the police, this was posted just
>yesterday by Nathan Mehl:
>
> "Subject: Ronnie Jr has a new account, are we ready for some fun?
>
>  Also, has anybody out there tried to reference the alleged St. Louis
>  Post-Dispatch article that ronniejr claimed to have been quoted in?  I'd
>  be *quite* interested in finding his actual name.  Ditto if that info is
>  available through CompuServe.  If nothing else, it'd be that much more
>  grist for the St. Louis ADL's files..."
>                       - <920407#119#163332:nmehl@rm105serve.sas.upenn.edu>
>
>Even read literally, it is a threat to take action against me outside
>of net channels should my real name ever be revealed.  If you take into
>account the implications of "if nothing else", who knows what this sicko
>has in mind.
>
>If I threatened you with a band of Nazis coming over and tormenting you
>should you reveal your real address, I bet you wouldn't do it.
>Similarly, I will not reveal my real name.  The potential for unwanted
>harassment far outweighs any gain in credibility I would receive.

But ronnie, you *have* threatened us, repeatedly, and you have made it
clear that you *are* a Nazi.  Moreover, I already *do* use my real
name and address.  What I'm looking for here is some balance of power,
a levelling of the playing field, as it were.  If we both have each
other's real names, the liklihood of either of us trying something stupid
is kind of low, unlike the present situation.

BTW, ronnie, the mail I've gotten on the question of your probably-
ficticious article is so far running 2-to-0 in favor of its nonexistance.
Thus, I return to my original assessment of you as a sexually frustrated
13-year-old who likes to talk big and powerful on the net, but who would
probably wither away in the light of day...
                                                           

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