HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Who are in KEITH_ANN.GIF at DoD archives?
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 04:56:32 GMT

keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com (Keith A. Schauer) reveals:
>keithh@bnr.ca (Keith Hanlan) wonders aloud:

>>I was poking around the DoD archives at cerritos and found
>>KEITH_ANN.GIF.  "Wow!"  I figured.  Somebody digitized a picture
>>of my wife and I.  I wonder what the pictue is like?

>>Well imagine my surpise (and disappointment) when I saw some
>>strangers posing before Capulin Volcano National Monument.

>Strangers?  Not to me.  I resemble that man and my wife looks alot like that
>woman.  On our way to the Ride 'n Feed on a nice crisp New Mexico morning.

Friendly hint, next time you're on cerritos, get the file aaareadme.txt.
Everything you always wanted to know about Denizens, but were afraid to
ask.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: amir@ms.uky.edu (Amir Sadr)
Subject: Kalgaurd fork oil
Cc: Race_Digest
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 04:54:29 GMT
Organization: U of Kentucky, Computer & Mathematical Sciences Division

Greetings.  It is time to replace the fork seals on my CBR1000 and I was
wondering if any of you have experimented with Kalguard (sp?) fork oil?
I had planned on removing the fork (tubes&slider) this morning (sat) and run
them to the shop along with the new seals so as they could do the installing.
I was hoping to put everything back together in the afternoon as I will not
have time to do so until next weekend.  Talking to a friend made me postpone
the project until I consulted the wisdom of you good people on the list/net.
He is really sold on Kalguard, and according to him so are a lot of (you)
racers.  So I thought I should survey your opinion.  Now I know a CBR1000
is hardly a race machine and this discussion may not pertain to the list
(with respect to a street bike at least) but the way this guy was preaching
about Kalguard made me want to jump up out of my chair and yell "Yes, yes,
Kalguard; I must get Kalguard".  He rides an FZR1000 and that is the brand
of fork oil he is running.  I had prepared on using PJ1 15W, with intentions
of making the front a little more stiff, which my friend thinks is a mistake.
He is concerned that this could cause the seals to wear quicker than
they are designed for.  Is this a valid concern?  The fork is air
pressure adjustable as well.  The service manual does not indicate, but
I think Honda fills the tubes with 5W Honda fork oil which the shop
was out of.  The bike weighs 580-lbs juiced and ran smooth with what
ever is in there (or should I say left in there) currently.  It's just 
that recently I've been running it a little harder than I ever dared
and I can feel it pogo-stick a bit.  As always thank you in advance
for your advice and direction.  

-- 
- Amir Sadr,  Dept. of Computer Science   AMA  ACM    amir@ms.uky.edu  
- University of Kentucky                  DoD  IEEE   amir@UKMA.BITNET
- Lexington,  KY 40506-0027                           [rutgers,uunet]!ukma!amir
--
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What would you buy for $2000?
Date: 2 Oct 92 17:18:30 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: MSUS

In article <1992Sep30.132619.585@halfdome.sf.ca.us>, bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us
(bob pasker) wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Sep30.075248.10754@elektro.cmhnet.org>, root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) writes:
> > Who said sportbikes?  You can get a *real* good BMW R60/2 for under $2K,
> > or most R75/5 R75/6's are in this range.  
> 
> [...] 12 year old r100s are commanding $4k.  all depending
> on condition and to a lesser extent milage.
> 
Gads.  That's bizarre.  Time to start buying up those r100s
here in the midwest.  I suspect that used BMW prices are
depressed right now but will rise tremendously in a few
years.  (I got my '81 R100RS for $2,400 this year -- and 
paid too much by local standards.)
From: tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi <tcora>)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: calling mature riders
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:29:02 GMT
Organization: Electric Armts Div, US Army ARDEC, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ

noemi@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Noemi Berry) writes:
>>> 	NM (Next Motorcycle) countdown: $3000 left to go :-(
>
>>	how come that figure hasnt gone down? or has it?
>>	- ravi
>
>heh heh -- dummy!  :-)  the key thing that changed about that
>figure is the units.  notice it is no longer 3,000 miles
>that stands between NB & NM, but 3,000 DOLLARS!!!
>
>originally i wanted to wait until i had 5000 miles experience
>before getting NM.  at 5000, i figured i wasn't done dropping
>the kawi yet, and reset the countdown for 11,500 miles.
>
>now, at 13000 miles (plus 2500 kilometers on a different bike)
>it's TIME to replace the oil-greedy 305.  i'm ready to start
>dropping NM instead!  :-)?  as soon as i am employed...
>
>NM is everywhere, even in my NaMe,
>NoeMi

Sounds like NM stands for No Money, too:-{
-- 
 
                tom coradeschi    <+>    tcora@pica.army.mil
From: zeleny@husc9.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: 1986 Moto Guzzi LeMans Mk 4
Date: 30 Sep 92 00:19:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Sep29.201940.15953
Organization: The Phallogocentric Cabal

What's the word on this bike?  Why are they worth so much less than the
boxer BMW's?  I am considering the purchase of a reasonably clean example,
equipped with K&N's, Dr John's 2-into-1, and fresh tires, with all original
parts, and 17K miles on the clock, for $2000.  The bike has been used for
daily commuting, but seems to be in a pretty decent shape.

In the past have owned 2 R100RS BMW's, and a 1000 Jota; my current bikes
are a 1978 1200 Mirage Laverda, located in LA, and a 1980 900SS Ducati,
currently residing in New Hampshire.  Both stand in need of engine work, so
I don't want to get another project bike.  The 16" front wheel and the
cunningly hidden oil filter do put me off somewhat; the points have been
replaced by a Dyna ignition, so that's not a problem.  The compression
seems OK, and the engine is apparently oil-tight, idling below 1000 rpm.
What should I be looking at?
         
cordially,
mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu
"Nous donnons la mort, nous saurons la subir."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris)
Subject: Re: full face DoD?
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:51:53 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.103605.17104@bnr.uk> datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
>oiu.  A BMW Series 3 and boy is it crap!  I don't know what to go for next, I

Exsqueeze me. Say more. After a Series II and a couple of Shoei's - I love 
my System III and have for the last (almost) two years.  What's yer complaint?

-John
============================================================================
                            John S. Morris  #0316
  Open Software Foundation - 11 Cambridge Centre - Cambridge, MA 02142 USA
    Voice: +1 (617) 621-8739 Fax: +1 (617) 621-0584 Email: jsm@osf.org
                           Ride: K100RS Cage: 320i 
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: 1993 Yamaha GTS1000 (more details)
Keywords: GTS1000 hub-center steering
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 18:36:39 GMT

marcl@os-d.isc-br.com (H. Marc Lewis) writes:

>From the current issue of American Roadracing, in an article titled:
>"Yamaha's center-hub wonder", quoted here without permission:

>[two pictures are included, a right side shot which looks identical to the
>one posted recently, and a left front quarter shot showing the swingarm]

The Nov. '92 Motorcyclist has a couple of B&W photos of the GTS, they
sound like the same two shots. It's nowhere near as ugly as Cycle World's
drawing, but I don't see how they're going to mount any luggage without
removing bodywork. It's interesting, but there's no way it's an FJ
"replacement" in my book.

Lance Holst must have written the copy: "The frame appears to be a C
shape, but the Omega name leads us to believe that it is an O, a circle
in fact". Right. That's why they called it "omega" instead of "O" ?
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: spindler@emr1.emr.ca (Chris Spindler)
Subject: Re: ZX11 0-60 times (was Re: 'taint been......)
Organization: Energy, Mines, and Resources, Ottawa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:36:50 GMT

In article <klp.718315742@keiko> klp@doe.carleton.ca (Ka Lun Pang) writes:

>In <886@zx11.UUCP> joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner) writes:

>>kinda amazing how all three of those bikes can have EXACTLY the same 0-60
>>times, ...
>
>Hmmmm.., is that what they call terminal velocity???

Nope, that can only be measured while posting _and_ riding.
BTW, terminal velocity for the DoD is 105.

YVMV

-- 
Chris Spindler   Seismologist @ Large  |  Staring into a computer screen is  
'91 550 Zephyr    - - - - - - -  o     |  like staring into an eclipse.  It's
'91 K75RT       - - - - - - -  _/\_>   |  brilliant and you don't realize
 DoD #6371    - - - - - - -   O,> / O  |  the damage until it's too late.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed Campbell)
Subject: re: Tell me about frondstands
Originator: ed@rover
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Distribution: ca
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 23:27:47 GMT

>I'm in the market for a frontstand (a jack that raises the
>front wheel of a motorcycle off the ground via the steering
>head.)  I want one that's adjustable for different bikes,
>and that can be used by one person.  If anyone has 
>experience with a stand that satisfies these requirements
>I'd like to hear from you.

   Different method same effect, the Easylifter from Pisano products
works like a racing jack. Slip it under the frame and push the long
lever down. They have a double version that lifts both ends at once.
Address and info can be found in Easy Riders magazine.

Ed Campbell

'57 FL
'76 XLCH
My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar.

*************************************************************
   "Never trust anyone in a cage, if they weren't nuts
    they'd be on a scoot like anybody else."
                        Grandmother
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: DoD is a bad influence
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:16:30 GMT

In article <djm.717878411@morpheus> djm@morpheus.wustl.edu (David Maconochie) writes:
|daved@convex.com (David Dorfman) writes:
|
|>You are all a bad influence on me , could you please step up the 
|>number of postings on full leather riding apparel to make ammends for the
|>corruption of my soul.
|
|How about some postings supporting the compulsory wearing of helmets?

Okay.  I'm pretty compulsive about wearing a helmet, although I take
a round-the-block spin after repairs without one, usually.  Stay away
from traffic, though.

I also wear a helmet when the self-righteous safetycrats tell me that
motorcycling is too dangerous, and bang me over the head (whap, whap, whap) 
with the crumpled remains of my personal freedoms.

Dave Svoboda (rubis@gagme.chi.il.us)        | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Looking up!)              |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Almost there)        |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905      DoD #0330    COG 939        |   -- Evo Woman
From: randy@ninja.megatek.uucp (Randy Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: We are sick and tired!!
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:28:02 GMT
Reply-To: megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California

In article <1aghphINN5rm@bigboote.WPI.EDU> ravi@cs.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan) writes:
||> you can claim whatever you like, newbie-scum.
||>                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^
|	you really expect me to fall for whats most probably the oldest
|	bait on rec.moto??? (ten points to the first person to point out
|	an older bait and prove that i am indeed newbie-scum! ;).

Let me see - older bait.  Ahhh, yes:

  "You newbie-scum FRESHMAN STUDENT!!" (Obvious, since you are posting from
a .edu system).

To PROVE you are a newbie scum?   Oh, yes:

  I've got copies of news postings less than two months old where you are
complaining about the DoD taking over the newsgroup (hilarious one, that).
How newbie *can* you get?

  So, do I get the ten points?

Randy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid)
Subject: Re: Helmet Replacement Interval
Summary: Every 2 years or every 5 ?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: helmet, replacement
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:16:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.211116.25748@emr1.emr.ca>, spindler@emr1.emr.ca (Chris Spindler) writes...
>A year or two ago, various sages (i.e., those at the safety council) were
>recomending that a helmet be replaced every 5 years.
> 
>Recently, I have heard a number of people recomend that if a helmet
>is worn regularly, it should be replaced every _2_ years.
> 
>The latter recomendation came from a motorcycle shop and from
>a weekly magazine show (on TSN) called "Motorcycle Rider".
> 
>Is this valid advice or a marketing ploy ?
> 
	The recommendation used to be every two years, but I noticed the
other day that my "new" Arai Giga had a stamp on the chinstrap "Replace helmet
after 5 years use" owtte (In Germany, "Replace Helmut after 10 years use" :-).
If the manufacturer says 5 years, I'd tend to believe them.

Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.     			ivan@cvax.psi.ch
GSX600F, RG250WD.	SI=2.66     "You Porsche. Me pass!"	DoD #484
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Personal to Tony Wang
Date: 26 Sep 92 01:27:24 GMT
Organization: Washington State University

In article <io80852@pro-haven.cts.com> shadow@pro-haven.cts.com (Blaine Hufnagle) writes:
>Howdy Tony! :-)
>
>Sorry I have to go over the net the first time, but I don't have your
>address.  I am thinking of possibly seeing about getting a DoD polo Shirt,
>but Since I am built rather strangely, I was wondering if you could tell me
>what the base shirt is so I could go try one on at a store so I can get the
>correct size.  And if you don't have any left, I might be able to fake it
>enough to take the print-out I have of the DoD daemon to the local t-shirt
>shop and get one made.

You can't just go out and use the DoD daemon so casually.  You must first
get a formal franchise, have your application cleared through the DoD
Executive Committee and the Advertising and Promotions subcommittee.

It all takes time.  That is why we usually funnel such projects through Arnie
who has already completed all the paper work and has the authority to act
on behalf of the DoD.

You must be a newbie.

>Thanks in advance. 
>
>-blaine
>
>-blaine   a.k.a. The Midnight Shadow    |  1979 Chevy Urban Assault Vehicle
>Texas Aggie Bus Driver and proud of it! |  1982 Thomas Transit Liner bus
>Another Bodybuilder from HELL!!         |  1982 Yamaha Vision   DoD #7192
                                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^

Yep, a newbie.  Hell with a number like that you not even due to be born
until 2013.

Ride Free, but watch your step.

Bill 
________________________________________________________________
bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu if you feel compelled to send email
johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu if you seriously expect an answer
AMA #500924   DoD #00314   WMTC #0002   SR= 2.125 prez=BIMC
Yamabeemer fjgs1200pdr100 740GLE  KotV KotRR KotD #0001  :-)
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

If you walk, just walk.
If you sit, just sit.
If you ride, just ride.

Above all, don't wobble.
                             Zen saying (slightly modified)
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Crosswinds
Date: 3 Oct 92 14:52:08 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH


terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham) writes:

>Ok, how does a buzzard countersteer?

There's serious debate about whether a buzzard moves it's head to
the left in order to steer to the right, or if the act of making a right
turn makes the head go to the left.

-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
                              DoD # 0698
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: Drilling my own discs
Keywords: brakes holes cooling
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 00:44:45 GMT

In article <1992Oct05.101927.22902@microsoft.com> chrispi@microsoft.com (Chris Pirih) writes:
>In rec.motorcycles jeg@beach.cis.ufl.edu (John Gelnaw) writes:
>;Now, when you drill the holes through the disc, you're doing something very
>;important... you're increasing surface area.  The more surface area of the 
>;disc that's exposed to the air, therefore you have more heat dissapation.
>
>Maybe, maybe not.  The area of the disk surface
>removed by each hole is 2*pi*r^2, where r is the
>radius of the hole (2 because the disk has 2 sides).
>The amount of surface added about the perimeter
>of the hole is 2*pi*r*t, where t is the thickness 
>of the disk.  So if t>r you add surface area; if 
>t<r you decrease surface area.

ohmygawd ... science strikes again

>
>Also, air does not flow through holes perpendicular
>to the disk surface as well as it does over the face 
>of the disk, so less heat is carried away from a 
>drilled disk than from a solid disk, given equal
>total surface area.
>

*AHGEMM*, you forgot to take into account the degree of air turbulence
induced by the hole _edges_ cutting through the air.  As this varys with
the square of the airspeed, the topmost holes are the ones that count most
as they are traveling over the ground at 2*[roadspeed].  When one considers
the air turbulence induced in this manner, it's a wonder that the bike can
reach any speed at all!  Further, the air so disturbed will impinge upon
the disk surfaces and provide a cooling effect that is proportional to 
the (specific gravity of air) * (one mole weight average air) / density
of brake disk material.  It is therefore intuitively obvious that better
brake disk cooling will be provided by either drilled or undrilled disks!

>---
>chris


Charlie Smith   csmith@dsac.dla.mil  charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff
            {  Friends don't let friends ride Japanese bikes  }
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BMW K Winter Storage
Date: 28 Sep 1992 13:21:49 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

Here's what Chuck and Ron have had to say about it...
From: dsc3jfs@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Jim Small)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Carpal Tunnel and Riding
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:25:28 GMT
Organization: Naval Medical Research & Development Command

In article <1992Sep24.180612.9650@rtsg.mot.com> dunne@rtsg.mot.com (Jim Dunne) writes:
>
>    OK, what about elbow pain?  I do nearly all of my riding on the

It's caused by excessive masturbation.


Cliff, don't ask . . . 

-- 
I hate the 3B2
The 3B2 can bite me.
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Date: Mon,  5 Oct 1992 00:23:08 -0400 
From: Mark Joseph Andy <ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: body leans & swerving (was The DoD ERC (was RSS))
	<1992Sep30.144331.11695@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>

Howdy,

Swerving is a fun thing to practice in heavy traffic and stuff where
you can't go a proper speed.  Just heavily countersteer back and
forth, completely unloading your forks as you transition.  It feels
really odd at first, but it's fun.

Mark

| Mark J. Andy			WERA NV #813		AMA #700560	|
| ma1w+@cmu.edu			KotR			DoD #813	|
| Co-founder/Rider, Team RISC and Two Geeks Racing			|
| '82 Seca 650 (street), '85 RZ350 (track), '87 KDX200 (the humbler)	|
| I want RZ350 parts like steering damper, fork brace, SS lines, etc... |
From: djm@morpheus.wustl.edu (David Maconochie)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Helmet law speech (help!)
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:44:22 GMT
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: morpheus.wustl.edu

mikeh@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike Hollyman) writes:

>I have to take the point that helmets don't
>make riding safer.

But they make it much less likely that in the event of an accident, you do
not become a brain damaged vegetable, sponging off your insurance company if
you have insurance, your family if you don't, and society anyway.

Of course it may be that the proportion of riders who are killed outright
rather than turned into paraplegics through not wearing a lid is an
economically significant factor, in which case I would asdvocate banning
helmets! (smiley face).

 
-- 
--

David Maconochie
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