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From: treincke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Tim Reincke)
Subject: Re: By Thy Vomit Gently Heaving, Illinois
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:38:30 GMT

<JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>Congrats on the most intriguingly lyrical subject line of the year!

Hmm...a play on the title of the Illinois State Song, no doubt.
Clever indeed!

- Tim "By Thy Rivers Gently Flowing, Illinois" Reincke
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From: hpb@hpb.cis.pitt.edu (Harry Bloomberg)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Head Coaching Vacancies
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:09:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <RandyL.4.722539412@MCES.MsState.Edu> RandyL@MCES.MsState.Edu (Randy Loper) writes:
>We've finally arrived at the time of year when coach's heads roll.  Where 
>will all the coaching vacancies be this year and who will be the 
>replacements?  Anybody care to speculate????
>
>Pittsburgh     - ????

   I expect Pitt to issue a statement about this Real Soon Now.  Here's
the list of folks rumored to be next year's Pitt coach.  These rumors
are gleamed from out-of-town newspapers, individuals on the net, and
sources I consider reliable.

   - Paul Hackett.  Pitt's got a killer schedule next year, so why waste
a ton of buyout money when the team's record is unlikely to improve
anyway?  However, retaining Hackett would have a depressing effect on
season ticket sales and Golden Panther memberships.

   - Jackie Sherrill.  He's the favorite of the big-shot Golden
Panthers.  However, trouble seems to always follow Jackie around, so
convincing the Pitt administration to hire him might take some arm
twisting.  Besides, animal sacrifices are forbidden within the
Pittsburgh city limits. :-)

   - Johnny Majors.  When he was being railroaded out of Tennessee,
Majors was rumored to be interested in returning to Pitt.  However,
Johnny is getting a bit old, and his health is suspect (although open
heart surgery is not as big of a deal as it used to be).  Fortunately
for Johnny, Pitt Stadium is right across the street from the world's
leading organ transplant center. :-)

   - "Mean" Joe Greene.  Yes, THAT Joe Greene, formerly of the Steelers
and Coke commericals.  Joe's considered somewhat of a god in Pittsburgh,
until this season he's spent his entire career in Pittsburgh, and Pitt's
defense really needs some work.  Joe's also black, so hiring him would
allow Pitt to make a statement about its commitment to supporting
minorties.

   Pitt's administration had been rather tight-lipped about coaching
changes, and the newspaper strike hasn't helped much.  A few press
conferences ago, Pitt AD Oval Jaynes said that Pitt would evaluate the
football program at the end of the season.  This doesn't sound like a
ringing endorsement of Hackett.

Harry Bloomberg
hpb@vms.cis.pitt.edu
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From: scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn)
Subject: Re: Earle Bruce's record
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:12:08 GMT

  I wrote:
>>led by Spielman, White, et al. then went out and upset Michigan to give Bruce
>>a win in his last game as OSU coach.

  To which Allen Warren replied:
>Sorry to be nit-picky, but there was actually one more game after this one,
>the Cotton Bowl, where Earle Bruce really did coach his last game at OSU.
>They won the game, against either Texas or Texas A&M, I believe.

     That's OK about being nit-picky; I don't mind when people correct me.
However, in this case, I wasn't wrong.
     Earle Bruce was fired near the end of the 1987 season. Apparently, the
prominent alumni who have a great deal of power decided that it wouldn't look
good to fire our coach, then go to a bowl game, so Ohio State did not seek any
bowl bids. (Also, with a 6-4-1 record, I'm not sure we would have gotten any)
     The Texas A&M game you remember was played on New Year's Day 1987, after 
the end of the *1986* season. Yes, we beat them by a goodly margin; can't 
remember the exact score (28-17?)

                                        Steve
///
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    They gave me differential calculus, and I said "Hit me again"
    So they gave me integral calculus, and I said "Hit me again"
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From: alc@netcom.com (Chris Stassen)
Subject: Re: OSU beats Michigan: 13-13
Organization: The Lion's Den, San Jose
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 16:53:38 GMT

Stupendous Man writes:
> Frankly, we had nothing to lose by going for it.  Cooper should have. 
> The team wanted to.  The seniors would have killed to get two.  Apparently
> Cooper was thinking about his job instead.

Oh, come on!  With four minutes to play, and the defense playing well,
and Moeller becoming *very* conservative, going for two points isn't
the right play.

And Cooper was vindicated:  OSU held Michigan, and got the ball back.
Two overthrown Herbstreit passes stalled the following drive, but the
decision to go for one point worked out as expected.  (And if we had
gotten a better bounce on the subsequent fumbled punt around the
Michigan 5-yard-line, it would have been an easy win.)
-- 
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DISCLAIMER:  My employer's account, but not their opinions.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: rszczerb@monet.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Subject: Re: Michigan, ND, Miami etc ...
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:43:41 GMT

In article <7283@news.duke.edu> ds4@soc11.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS) writes:
>
>Yea right....like the Canes would even bother with a pathetic team such as the
>cowering chickens....ah I mean the fighting irish.
>|> 
>

Yea right ... the last time Miami played ND the Mightly Hurricanes lost.
As a matter of fact, ND has runined Miami's MNC hopes twice in the last 4      
years.  Could it be that Miami is the cowering chickens? :) :) :)

						     

			- rob
From: hhsiung@elm.Berkeley.EDU (Han Hsuing)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: UCLA bowl hopes !!
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:20:06 GMT
Reply-To: hhsiung@elm.Berkeley.EDU (Han Hsuing)
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.college
Distribution: na
Organization: Bull HN Information Systems Inc., Phoenix Product Division

In article <1992Nov19.210541.19730@mic.ucla.edu>, bryan@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu (Bryan LittleField ) writes:
|>  Does UCLA have any hopes of reaching a bowl game this year ???
|> 
|>  If they can beat USC this saturday they will be 6-5 ...
|>  They should be going somewhere !!!!
|>  Isn't one of them Iowa schools going to a bowl with a 6-5 record ??
|> 
|>   --Bryan

Shameless UCLA woofing.  Many Other Pac-10 teams deserve to go ahead of UCLA.
If a 3-5 ( little chance ) PAC-10 team can still go to a bowl, then there
is no justice.  Wash. State is a better team than UCLA, Oregon is a better team
( Oh ! yes they were upseted by UCLA so what ), Arizona State is a better team,
and even Cal is much better than UCLA.  
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From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: Projected bowl matchups
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:39:01 GMT

In article <Nov.18.14.45.01.1992.7251@charon.rutgers.edu> subhas@charon.rutgers.edu (Subhasish Roy Choudhury) writes:
>
>14. Fiesta        Syracuse         vs.   NC State
>                  (Big East No. 2)       (ACC No. 2)
>                  (Coalition I)          (Coalition I)

I am pretty sure that this matchup won't take place. Fiesta
bowl is interested in an east-west matchup. A PAC10 or
Big8 representative (Colorado or USC/Stanford) is more likely.
Given their current rankings, I'd say Colorado is the most likeky
candiate.

>Subhasish Roy

Njan
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From: beckham@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeff Beckham)
Subject: Re: Big Ten bowls: all three of em :( (okay, four with PSU)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:02:11 GMT

peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.122940.5631@desire.wright.edu> demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes:
>>	Rose Bowl: Michigan (maybe they'll even win :)
>>	Citrus Bowl: Ohio State
>>	Holiday Bowl: Michigan State or Illinois
>>
>>	Ohio State locks the Citrus by having 8 wins, so even if they tie for
>>second or end up in third they'll still go.  Citrus has an 8-win escape clause
>	This isn't altogether correct.  Iowa can still go to the Holiday
>	if Illinois beats MSU and Iowa wins at Minnesota...

If this happens, then Illinois will perhaps go the the Independence Bowl in 
Louisianna...


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 					 	  Computer Science/Mathematics
                                    University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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From: jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich)
Subject: Re: woofer-flamer flamed fairly frequently
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:00:20 GMT

ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder) writes:


>To all Illinois fans that didn't post "nyah-nyah", or "HAHAHAH" or
>"fichigan sucks", congratulations on tying Michigan on their home
>turf, and beating Ohio State this year.  

>To the posters of the above-mentioned articles...well, nevermind.

>To the readers of this group who were offended by my flames of the
>above-mentioned woofs, sorry.  I'll use e-mail to flame next time.

>Future flagrant fervent flames finis.

Oh please Alan don't stop . After a long day of work I need some laughs,
thanks for helping to provide them (even if we don't agree very often).

>-Alan Harder
> 
>These opinions are mine.  You can't have them.  Stop, thief!
> 
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From: ped@BNR.CA (Pedro Luna)
Subject: Fightin' Texas Aggie Bonfire LIVE via Satellite
Reply-To: ped@BNR.CA (Pedro Luna)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:54:09 GMT

Howdy!  For all of the fellow Ags out in the networld, I would like to
let you know that The 1992 Fightin' Texas Aggie Bonfire will be
broadcasted LIVE via Satellite from Aggieland.  If you have means to use
a Satellite Dish, KAMU-TV will be broadcasted in

GALAXY 6 - T20  from 8pm to 9pm CST.

Anyone who has a satellite dish can watch this event...Whoop!!

Beat the class of '90 hell outta t.u.

PEdro '90
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From: rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann)
Subject: Re: Wake Forest/Virginia - Bowl Hopes
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:09:01 GMT

In article <1ee7e2INN7no@rave.larc.nasa.gov> cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov (Charlie Cockrell) writes:
> >>This means that Virginia's slim bowl hopes just went down the tubes.
> >>AD Jim Copeland conceeded that a bowl invitation is, at  best, a
> >>long shot. The only possibility is to have a team that is being
> >>looked at by a minor bowl fail to qualify by winning the required
> >>6 games against Division I-A opponents.

>
>
>                                    But, the point is, even with a win
> and a 7-4 record, UVa has almost no chance of going to any bowl. Up
> until yesterday's news, there was still some hope.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Charlie Cockrell                          VV     VV 1991 Men's Soccer Champs.
> NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, Va. VV   VV  1992 Men's NIT Champions  
> U.Va. School of Engineering, Class of 1990  VV VV   1992 Women's ACC BB Champs.
> (These are my opinions only)                 VVV     NCAA East Regional Champs.


How about UVa vs. RU in a "Boy-Did-the-Wind-Go-Out-of-Our-Sails Bowl?"
The BDWGOOSB could be held in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware.  Think of it.
An SRO crowd bundled up on the boardwalk, cheering our boys to victory
on the beach.  Fitting.

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From: mlsa@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MICHAEL LAUREN SHERMAN)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ACC needs football respect!
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:38:42 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Nov23.081351.13473@colorado.edu>, manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K
. S. Manu) writes:
>In article <1992Nov23.020737.19472@ncsu.edu> delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EME
RY LAROCQUE) writes:
>>
>> ACC Football   CONF     ALL        Pac-10 Football  CONF    ALL
>>
>> N.C. State     6-2-0    9-2-1      Stanford         6-2-0   9-3-0
>
>Just compare the out of conf games... who did NC State tie? Virginia Tech! HA!
>Who did Stanford lose to? A&M, who is still unbeaten! They also beat Notre dame
>at home!
>
>> North Carolina 5-3-0    8-3-0      Washington St.   5-3-0   8-3-0
>
>Who did North Carolina beat?
>
>> Virginia       4-4-0    7-4-0      USC              5-3-0   6-3-1
>
>Who did Virginia beat? Navy, William & Mary and Va. Tech!
>USC - Oklahoma! (and quite possibly Notre Dame!)
>
>> Wake Forest    4-4-0    6-5-0      Arizona          4-3-1   6-4-1
>
>ha! This is a good one! Wake forest-Arizona?!? Gimme a break!
>
>> Clemson        3-5-0    5-5-0      Oregon           4-4-0   6-5-0
>
>Clempson lost to South Carolina!
>
>> Maryland       2-6-0    3-8-0      UCLA             3-5-0   6-5-0
>
>you mean to say 3-8 is same as 6-5?
>
I'm willing to bet if Maryland played UCLA today, Kaleo and Badgett and
company would pick the UCLA defense farther apart than a UCLA girls legs.
This is a team which started a new system with old personnel, of course it
took time to adjust, this is also a team that gave out some serious thrashings
ie. Clemson and Pitt.  They are starting to gel now, it is a shame the season
is over.  Next year the Terps are going to be a team to reckon with while UCLA
will still suck

>> NOW, YOU HAVE TO AGREE!!! ABOUT EVEN!! It's plain as day.......
>> Give the ACC the respect it deserves.
>
>I think if you take FSU out, what you have is a third rate conference.
>I'm sure the bowl games will make it clear.
>
>>delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu
>
>Njan
>
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From: garnto@scri.fsu.edu (Ken Garnto 904/644-4534)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Alabama and Miami, setting it straight
Date: 17 Nov 92 14:22:20 GMT
Reply-To: garnto@scri.fsu.edu (Ken Garnto 904/644-4534)
Distribution: na
Organization: Supercomputer Computations Research Institute

In article
<1992Nov17.055423.25427@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>,
stricher@masig.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul) writes:
|>Path: sun13!mailer.cc.fsu.edu!news
|>From: stricher@masig.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul)
|>Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
|>Subject: Re: Alabama and Miami, setting it
|>straight
|>Message-ID:
|><1992Nov17.055423.25427@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>
|>Date: 17 Nov 92 05:54:23 GMT
|>References: <Ray_Hines.03ad@dream.uucp>
|>Sender: news@mailer.cc.fsu.edu (Usenet News
|>File Owner)

|>
|>This may not be an acceptable alternative, but how about alternating
|>between FSU and Miami every year?
|>
|>James
|>

From what i remember (and my memory is getting
worse all the time) this can not happen
unless Charlie Reed changes his mind.  (charlie
reed is the head person for the Florida Board 
of Regents - the people the university
presidents report to).

It is my understanding that when the SEC grew, and UF dropped UM, that Florida 
also wanted to change their schedule with FSU,
and Charile stepped in and said that
the Florida - Florida State game will continue
on a yearly basis  (oh, yeah, he also controls
the 
purse strings for state money.)

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From: mbs@zycor.lgc.com (Matt Shostak)
Subject: Re: Greatest of the Eighties (BOWL BOUND)
Organization: Landmark/Zycor   Austin, Texas
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:40:36 GMT

In article <415@rd1.interlan.com> tonyf@rm1.interlan.com (Tony Fernandez) writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.132210.20982@lgc.com>, mbs@zycor.lgc.com (Matt Shostak) writes:
>>
>>The Hurricanes continued to play outstanding defense, forcing two straight
>>punts, but Conley coughed the ball up on the Miami 25.  Seven plays later
>            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Sammy Smith barged into the endzone to make it 14-7, FSU.  Miami was
>>forced to punt on their next possession, and it was blocked, giving the
>>Seminoles a chance to capitalize from the Miami 15 yard line.  Smith
>                                                                ^^^^^
>>fumbled, however, and the Hurricanes averted disaster.  The Hurricanes
> ^^^^^^^
>
>This Bowl Bound is great.  It even knows who is likely to fumble to ball
>away.  Too bad it doesn't know Miami has to beat FSU ;-).

Actually, it doesn't know who is likelier to fumble.  We just make up the
appropriate names to go with the play-by-play, since each chart has a
listing of the prominent players from each team.  I just happened to know
that both of these guys have had fumble problems, so I attributed the
fumbles to them to make the story more interesting.  Sorry if there was
any confusion.

>
>For those who don't know, Leonard Conley fumbled the ball several times in 
>his career, none costlier that a 4th quarter fumble in a loss to Notre Dame
>in 1990 deep in ND territory.
>
>Sammie Smith as a member of the Dolphins last year, was run out of town
>after fumbling inside their opponents 1 yard line two games in a row.
>
>Tony L. Fernandez
>
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From: bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: WOOF GODS STRIKES AGAIN! (was Re: WSU 42 UW 23)
Date: 23 Nov 92 02:15:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <dkH=2w@engin.umich.edu> chyang@westquad.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:

>	Ok.  Given the weather condition, WSU has the definite advantage
>with the way their teams is and game plan is structured.  There is no
>arguemnent.  UW could not have won anyway.  The snow COMPLETELY neutralized
>the speed of Washington's defense and offense.  The arguement of bulk vs
>speed comes into play here. The defensive line of the Huskies are big but
>not as big as the offensive line and they were in effective without traction
>on the ground.  

This is pathetic.  The quick WSU defense does not practice in snow,
and the UW offense was helped as much by the snow as the WSU offense
was.

>	Like I said, the Woof God Stuck and it snowed that game.  If it was
>on dry ground, the story will be very different.  
>
>	I don't buy the arguement of talent level ....  etc.  I don't care how
>good the WSU offense is.  The weather was the primary factor in determine the
>outcome.  Now all you WAZZU fans have to hope for is that it snows everytime
>Apple cup come around.

We see the epitomy of Husky arrogance here.  Let me tell you, the
Cougars are going to be substantially better next year than this
year.  Even if Bledsoe bolts (which I  don't think he will),
the backup (Mike Pattinson) was highly recruited, is very good,
and would start at most Pac10 schools (Arizona would be in the Rose
Bowl this year if they had him).  We lose one really good guy on
defense (Lewis Bush), a few good receivers (but plenty stay), and
half the offensive line (which has struggled, anyway).  That's it.

So the Cougars are going to kick the Huskies' butts in Seattle
next year.  Believe me, Mike Price is clipping and saving every
wimpy excuse from Husky coaches and players.  And next year
the Cougars will be really ticked off and highly motivated due
to the almost total lack of respect coming from the Huskies
this year.  Blaming it on the weather---shame on them.


>	BTW, is Bledsloes coming out after this year.  The Seahawks should
>draft him.  God, do they need it!

I don't think he will, but we'll see.

>- Chung Yang
>
>> --
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>> Dept. of Computer Science; U of Arizona   Voice:    +1 602 621 4098      
>> Tucson, AZ 85721; USA                     FAX:      +1 602 621 4246
>> The fact that you're paranoid doesn't prove they're *not* out to get you.


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Tucson, AZ 85721; USA                     FAX:      +1 602 621 4246
The fact that you're paranoid doesn't prove they're *not* out to get you.
From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: FSU 1993 Schedule
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:36:00 GMT

In article <168A3A170.JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com> JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com writes:
> It was probably about 10-15 years ago.  Several students (it appeared they
> were students) threw dead fish at the ND players and after a time, several
> players. . . .visited them . . in the stands and voiced some concern.

Fish on SATURDAY!  Those silly southerners, at it again...

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