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From: Lance.Parsons@p16.f113.n267.z1.fidonet.org (Lance Parsons)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: OS/2
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 13:13:01 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:267/113.16 - COMNET BBS Headquar, Albany NY

 > I thought of OS2 for SPSS PC+ which we use at work in DOS.

    I haven't heard of SPSS PC+, but I understand from this message that it is a DOS program? What does it do? Is it a TSR or a program that you use a lot? If it is a networking program, I have heard very good things about OS/2 and networks but I have not actully used it with one as I do not have one.

 > COuldn't get
 > any interest in trying it out.  IBM and SPSS we willing to loan hardware
 > and software for the try but it didn't happen as we didn't have the
 > time.

    Too bad. It is an excellent operating system, though I would suspect in another four to six months we should see if it will make it big. If by then there are still no NEW OS/2 apps (there are plenty for OS/2 1.3 but not for OS/2 2.0) then there is trouble. Also, OS/2 should be highly publicized by then or it could be stuck where it is. An operating system used by few people.

 > I still think it is a good idea but I worrired about yet anothe
 > operating system in use......we also have 4 or 5 Macs as well as the
 > same number of Dos machines.  We settled on 2 486 33MHZ to speed things
 > up a bit.  My last thought before things changed around a month ago was
 > that two operating systems were probably all we could handle at one
 > time.

    Hmmm. OS/2 is a bit much to learn and setup, but once done it is very easy to use and is very powerful. It is not quite up to the level of the mac in certain areas like multimedia, but in a little while that should change and both platforms becoming more equal. As far as speed, I have found it quite fast. I have a 486 33 with 8meg ram. The key is to have at least 8 meg ram and a decently fast HD. The processor doesn't matter as much. Even a 386 SX 16 works.

 > SPSS is a memory hog and I understand that OS2 sovles that
 > problem of the 640K block.  I wanted to try a dos extender to bost the
 > 640K a bit to see if that made a defference but I never got around to
 > it.

    Well, OS/2 does solve many memory probelms. If SPSS is a TSR that you must have running all the time, it may be trickey, since you would have to run it in a seperate DOS sessions. (Though it would be operational while you were running DOS stuff)
    If it is a standalone program that you use it whould be no probelm. As long as it is DPMI (Dos Protected Mode Interface) compatible OS/2 will handle upper memory just fine.
    If infact, SPSS is a netowrking type thing, you should have no troubel at all, form what I have heard and read. Though you should check this out with IBM and the makers of SPSS.

    Good luck! And happy OS/2ing!!

     -Lance


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From: Joel.Orleck@p5.f41.n116.z1.fidonet.org (Joel Orleck)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: RE: Mac Info
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 11:21:52 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:116/41.5 - Metro-Net, Nashville TN

  JL> Joel - Unfortunately the Macs are not networked at this time.  The
  JL> district is experiencing budget woes and put all networking
  JL> aspirations on hold. 

  I understand completely!!  Needless to say, Nashville has its share of "budget
woes."  It is unfortunate that politics often determines just how much money
is spent on education in a given community.  In Nashville, (like many other
places) the community does not believe that our schools need any more money.
   


  JL> We just went through a personnel restructuring, so hopefully things
  JL> will improve.  I will be providing tech support at two elementsry
  JL> schools this coming year. This is a step in the right direction. One
  JL> of my goals is to push telecommunications for both students and
  JL> teachers. 

  Sounds a lot like the stuff I've been doing.  

  JL> I worked with one primary teacher last year using K-12 Net
  JL> and she loved it.

  Same here...I worked with one elem. teacher and one middle school teacher.
 I am hoping to have more participants this year.

 Thanks for sending the info.  i appreciate it! Jim

  Well, I know it wasn't much....but it was all I could lay my hands on right
now.


  Regards,

  Joel Orleck


  JL> --- Tabby 2.2
  JL>  * Origin: Auburn Ed-Net, Auburn WA (206-931-4821)   (1:343/80)
  JL> SEEN-BY: 116/41 321/218 31999/1 31999/4 31999/5
  JL> ^APATH: 343/80 343/31 343/200 343/300 343/500 343/55 2608/75 260/620 321/218
  JL> ^APATH: 116/4


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From: Chris.Rowan@f100.n397.z1.fidonet.org (Chris Rowan)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Participants for Global Village News project in Ch. 11
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 09:35:55 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:397/100 - The Lyceum, Brownsville TX

Hi!

Last year, we started a project called Global Village News.  It consisted of students reading their local newspapers for items of interest to their particular community.  The articles were summarized, and a brief explanation _why_ the article was chosen was attached.

Last year's GVN was very successful.  There were posts from Washington, Oregon, Canada, Australia . . . Many different places.

In order for this year's GVN to be a success, we will need at least 6 participants (i.e., schools/classes).  The project will be "open," admitting new participants as time goes by.

If you would like to participate in this year's Global Village News, post a short message here with the following information:

     1)  Name of teacher
     2)  Grade level
     3)  Name of school
     4)  Location of school (City, state, province, etc)

GVN will start soon after we have received commitments from at least 6 teachers.  Thanks for taking the time to read this!

                                             Chris Rowan


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From: Vic.Brockett@f603.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Vic Brockett)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: REPLY
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 21:14:05 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/603 - Salem Educators Onl, Salem OR

Thanks for the info, Joel. The people from Supra are Albany school 
products and no I'm not currently using their excellent product. However 
they are going to get the chance to supply us with one. Currently, we are 
using a Power USER special. 2400 baud and servicable. I spent some time 
in the Fairbanks area in 
March on a dogsled trip and loved it but I'm afraid my wife wouldn't take 
the cold of the interior.


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From: cornpop@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Ender Wiggin)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: RE: OS/2
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:45:14 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

SPSS is statistical software....  It runs on DOS, Mac, Amiga, And UNIX.  A few
other platforms also.  I have found OS/2 to be unreliable, and not very highly
supported.  Also, to get customer service from IBM is complicated...  They always try to give you the run-around/  If you want powerful multitasking-momory management, use UNIX...  There is a free, reasonably small unix called LINUX, 
and there are many others.  A reasonably fair priced UNIC clone, Coherent, is going for 99.95 these days.You can run the X-windows system for powerful graphiicsUNIX is by far the most powerful operating system that I have so far run across...

Dan Lieberman
cornpop@glia.biostr.washington.edu
From: Trent.Rowe@p0.f49.n134.z1.fidonet.org (Trent Rowe)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: GL files
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 18:54:22 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/49.0 - The Student Exchang, Calgary Alta

 -=> Quoting Audy Barr to Anyone <=-

 AB> Hi need a hand with GL files . I have a couple here that were
 AB> some kind of special program now to run it ? Any one have any ideas??

 Look for a program called Grasp or Graspert.

... Dammit, Jim, I'm a doctor, not a Sysop!

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From: Audy.Barr@f66.n134.z1.fidonet.org (Audy Barr)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: GL files
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 16:43:14 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/66 - Calgary Message Lin, Calgary Alta

THKS FOR THE INFO ON THE GL FILES EXTRACTOR     will look for the program...
I assume it will be in a bbs archive or shareware
Audy


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From: Joel.Orleck@p5.f41.n116.z1.fidonet.org (Joel Orleck)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: APPLE SCHOOLS OF TOMORROW
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 11:28:25 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:116/41.5 - Metro-Net, Nashville TN

  
  KM> Joel, Thanks for the stuff you sent.  It came through with no problem.
  
  No problem!!  I know it wasn't much...but it was all I could lay my hands
on at the moment.  


  Regards,

  Joel Orleck



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From: Carol.Hooper@f64.n381.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Hooper)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: MathMagic Update
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 22:41:25 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:381/64 - Academy K12 Net, El Paso TX

Hi Everyone!  Important news concerning MathMagic.
I am celebrating the receipt of a Project Channel
dedicated to the MathMagic project.  Therefore,
once I receive notice of exactly which channel we
will be using, I'll let everyone know so that we
can begin the trip into problem solving.  In
addition, some important updates concerning the
actual MathMagic project are about to be posted
as MathMagic becomes better and more easily
accessible to student and teacher alike.    Those
that have already signed on as participants will
receive these updates via general mail as well.
Look for all this information soon and thanks for
your interest and support.  Carol


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From: John.Feltham@f706.n640.z3.fidonet.org (John Feltham)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.art
Subject: me
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 92 09:26:44 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/706 - Coral Sea, Townsville Qld Australia

G'day Lisa!

Friday August 07 1992, Lisa Sauer writes to All:

 > quick!
 > anyone~
 > please reply!

Ok, I have replied, now what?

ooroo


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From: Magnus.Hauge@f418.n205.z2.fidonet.org (Magnus Hauge)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.art
Subject: 'The technics behind starwars movies
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 23:14:31 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 2:205/418 - Nolaskolans TCL, Ornskoldsvik

I have a small problem, I'm going to write an assey about the tecnincs 
behind the starwars, alien and terminator II movies. Can anyone fill me in 
on wich books thats available on this subject. 
 
The book should contain starting sketches, story boards and glass paintings. 
And also be informative on the matter computer technics (Alias) and robots. 
 
Please give ISBN number, prize, adress and Phone/Fax number if possible. 
 
My adrress: 
 
Magnus Hauge 
Box 397 
892 92  DOMSJO 
SWEDWN 
 
Tel/Fax -660 52977  
  

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From: Edward.Dunagin@f540.n226.z1.fidonet.org (Edward Dunagin)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.art
Subject: me
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 06:41:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/540 - The Tele-Forum Netw, Columbus OH

LS>quick!
LS>anyone~
LS>please reply!

Hi Lisa, here is one from Columbus Ohio.

 * SLMR 2.0 #1852 * I hope that guy put litter in here ...MEOW



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From: Alex.Portnoy@p0.f401.n712.z3.fidonet.org (Alex Portnoy)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.art
Subject: Re: me
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 00:57:56 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:712/401.0 - Avantgarde BBS, Bondi NSW

Hi, Lisa.

 LS> quick!
 LS> anyone~
 LS> please reply!  

        In a hurry, I take it?

Have A Nice Day! :-)
Al.



... A feature is a bug with seniority.

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From: Karen.Moe@f17.n3400.z1.fidonet.org (Karen Moe)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.art
Subject: Are you back?
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 92 10:44:02 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3400/17 - MET NET BBS, Helena MT

Hey Jan, Where are you? I assume you're back from your trip. I've checked for messages and see I have no new mail. Are you into football? Are you going to play this year? Did you have a good trip? I'm trying to adjust to new glasses and I've had a hard time trying to study and prepare for my classes. Did you have a hard time getting used to your glasses? I find it very frustrating and I end up concentrating on how I'm seeing , more than what I'm trying to re Well I just thought I'd put another message on s

o when you get to it you'll have mail. Bye 4 now.. Karen

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From: Darryl.Hosford@f120.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Darryl Hosford)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.channel3
Subject: Brown Bags for 1992-1993?
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 03:26:44 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/120 - SpaceMet Internet, Amherst MA

Hello all,
 
I am just wondering if the brown bags are going to be active again this
year.  I would like many more!
 
Thanks!
Darryl Hosford


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From: Chris.Rowan@f100.n397.z1.fidonet.org (Chris Rowan)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.channel2
Subject: MathMagic - Here I am!
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 08:43:06 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:397/100 - The Lyceum, Brownsville TX

Hi Carol,

We won't start school for another week, but when we do I want to land on my feet running, if you know what I mean.  We'll spend the first couple of days establishing rules, expectations, and so forth, but after that we're going to dive deep into MathMagic.

                                                  Best regards,
                                                  Chris


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From: Carol.Hooper@f109.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Hooper)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.channel2
Subject: Updated MathMagic Guide Pg 2
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 17:47:32 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/109 - Pioneer Valley PCUG, Amherst MA

HOW DO STUDENTS WORK ON A PROBLEM?
    1.  Simply log on to FidoNet on the first day of the
        problem cycle.
    2.  Choose MathMagic Channel which is     .
    3.  Problems will be posted in a message addressed to
        "All."  Subject line will indicate cycle number
        and corresponding dates.  For example: " Subject:
        Cycle 1 - Sept 8-18" means problems are for Cycle 1
        with a starting date of Sept. 8 and solution format
        due date of Sept. 18.
    4.  Look at the problem for your grade level.
    5.  Get out the thinking cap and begin to discuss
        strategies with students in your grade level from
        around the world.  Enter messages, share ideas, work
        towards a solution while discovering new friends
        from within your city, other states, and even other
        nations.  IMPORTANT:  Your first message must
        indicate your grade level and whether you are
        working as a team or individual.  All teams must
        list names of team members for proper credit as well
        as the sponsoring school, if applicable.  As this
        information is received by MathMagic management,
        updated postings will be made available, listing
        participants in team and individual categories by
        grade level to help you locate other students with
        whom you can discuss the current problem.
    6.  For helpful hints on problem solving, read message
        titled "Problem Solving Help."
HOW DO WE SUBMIT OUR SOLUTIONS?
Solutions are turned in on the last day of the problem cycle
and are written in a specific format.  This format is:
    1.  State the problem, listing the knowns and unknowns
        and any assumptions which are made.
    2.  Explain the strategy, or strategies.  Suggested
        strategies are:
        a.  Work a simpler case and apply.
        b.  Look for a pattern to apply.
        c.  Make a wild guess and check your answer.
        d.  Make a table, chart, or diagram; use a model.
        e.  Label known parts and unknown parts with
            variables.
        f.  Write an equation relating the knowns and
            unknowns.
        g.  Work backwards.
        h.  Work for a subgoal.
        i.  Find a related problem or strategy you can
            apply.
        j.  If all else fails, act it out.
more to follow...

  --- ConfMail V4.00
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From: Carol.Hooper@f109.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Hooper)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.channel2
Subject: MathMagic Solution Format Example
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 17:46:44 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/109 - Pioneer Valley PCUG, Amherst MA

Hi All!  In answer to the request for a sample
problem, I include the following.  The problem was
a .gif file and was stated as such.
(Please note:  this is a very rough take-off of the
.Gif file and not using actual measurements that
Carli was working with.  Also, FYI, Carli is a 10
year old student who just completed the fifth grade
at the time this problem was completed.  A QUESTION
ON THE ANGLE OF A ROOF
       /\
     /    \    <- This roof had a very steep slope.
   /        \
 /____________\      *Because of the difficulty of
  |           |      drawing House A, I will simply
  | House B   |      state that it had a much
  |___________|      smaller slope and was wider
                     with the exact same
                     rectangular base.  I apologize
                     for not having the picture
                     here.
The question:  Which house, A or B, has the
strongest roof?  What is the mathematical
difference between the two roofs?
             STUDENT'S WRITTEN SOLUTION
From: Carli hooper
To: all
Date: 08-01-92 12:14:57
Subject: Final solution!
  I'm going to begin by stating the problem.  Next
I'm going to explain the thoughts that first came
into my mind to try and come up with a solution.
Finally I'm going to explain the conclusion Please
Enjoy!
  I started out with two roofs.  I needed to figure
out which roof was the strongest.  Both roofs are
quite different.  I also needed to measure the
roofs and come up with a mathematical difference.
I first thought of airconditioners and how they
would affect the roof.  Soon after I thought the
bigger the house the bigger the airconditioner and
the way it would make the roof weaker.  Then I was
wondering about rain.  I was wondering if the rain
would damage the roofs.  I also thought of tiles.
The roof could be made of cheap tiles.  The last
thing I thought of was when each house had its last
repairs on the roof.  For example: There was a big
hailstorm, and both roofs were badly damaged .  One
house had its repairs one week later and another
had its repairs one year later.  The roof that had
its repairs soonest would have a stronger roof for
at least a year.      see next message....

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From: Carol.Hooper@f109.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Hooper)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.channel2
Subject: MathMagic Solution Format Example cont.
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 17:46:59 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/109 - Pioneer Valley PCUG, Amherst MA

Subject: Continuation of solution
Some of the strategy I used to help to figure out
the problem were: I meausred the thickness of each
roof.  That helps to see how sturdy the roofs are.
I also used two books for an experiment. First, I
took a tall folder and a short book.  I set them up
in a triangle shape.  It was clear to me that the
flatter triangle was sturdier than the tall one
because there was more air in between the taller
one (roof B) than the shorter one (roof A).  The
difference was 11/16 of an inch for the shorter one
compared to 23/16 of an inch for the taller one.
(I used a ruler to measure the screen.)  The answer
I came up with was A.  I agreed on A because the
air on roof A from the top to the bottom was 11/16
of an inch and roof B was 23/16 of an inch.  I
thought that the more air, the less solid the
building.  The measurement of the sides and bottom
were : Roof A Sides = 2 inches, Roof A Bottom = 4
inches,  Roof B Sides = 40/16 of an inch, Roof B
Bottom = 4 inches.  Thank you for taking the time
to read my report.
              Carli worked on the problem for about
three days.  She tried many strategies to develop
her solution and could be found in the
encyclopedias (both on-line on commercial BBS and
at home) and she made many phone calls to adults
she thought might know something about roofs.  She
took walks around the neighborhood to get a feel
for the way *real* roofs are built (aha!  Real Life
connection taking place!)  As I stated, this was a
.Gif file and I would love to be able to eventually
include graphic problems in our available problems.
However, the first problems until that thought is
probed futher will be text type.  This is only one
of many types of problems which might be given.
They will be posted according to grade level.
Please direct any questions back to me.  Thanks,
Carol

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From: Carol.Hooper@f109.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Hooper)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.channel2
Subject: MathMagic Registration Simplified
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 17:48:14 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/109 - Pioneer Valley PCUG, Amherst MA

MathMagic Registration Form
To participate in MathMagic, please forward the
following information to:
Carol Hooper: 1:381/64 (FidoNet)
Indian Ridge Middle School
11201 Pebble Hills, El Paso, TX 79936
     1.  Name of school
     2.  Name of principal
     3.  School Address
     4.  FidoNet address
This information will allow MathMagic to mail
achievement recognition awards and the MathMagic
Newsletter.  Thanks for registering with MathMagic.

  --- ConfMail V4.00
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From: Carol.Hooper@f109.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Hooper)
Newsgroups: k12.sys.channel2
Subject: MathMagic Registration Simplified
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 23:06:56 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/109 - Pioneer Valley PCUG, Amherst MA

MathMagic Registration Form
To participate in MathMagic, please forward the
following information to:
Carol Hooper: 1:381/64 (FidoNet)
Indian Ridge Middle School
11201 Pebble Hills, El Paso, TX 79936
     1.  Name of school
     2.  Name of principal
     3.  School Address
     4.  FidoNet address
This information will allow MathMagic to mail
achievement recognition awards and the MathMagic
Newsletter.  Thanks for registering with MathMagic.

  --- ConfMail V4.00
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