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From: krshah@us.oracle.com (Kalpak Shah  )
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Empress of India
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:04:21 GMT
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First let me state that I do not know the owner of E of I nor am I recommending
or not recommending the restaurant below. 

Mr Little writes:
>restaurant, the owner came out to announce to them "We do not accept
>coupons or entertainment books.  And you must clean your plates."
>Now, the first is certainly reasonable for a buffet lunch, where there
>is little profit margin.  But the way it was said was a little
>uncomfortable.

I agree here. The owner is not a great public relations person.

>The second part of her statement did not appear to be said in jest, 
>and is certainly one of the common sense rules of buffets.  But I have 
>never seen anyone pile their plate with food and just *leave* it there 
>at an Indian restaurant buffet.  Again, it was said in a kind of
>uncomfortable way.  And it seems that these admonitions all have 
>something to do with cost.  Certainly *all* restauranteurs are concerned 
>with cost, especially these days, but she appears to have some sort of 
>"paranoia" about it.

Given no other info of Indian culture this is the correct conclusion. But
in India asking someone else to clean one's plates is considered not at all
rude. In fact cleaning one's plates is taught to every kid in India and also
is implemented 99% of the times. She was just repeating what everyone else
does in India and has NOTHING TO DO with COST-CUTTING. 

 
>The three kids, by the way, finished off five bananas between them,
>and not much else.  Us parents, knowing what to expect from the kids,
>put *very little* food on their plates from the buffet - basically
>some rice and a spoonful of chicken curry.  Plus they ate the nan.  
>When the bill came, it had the full $7 charge for each kid, same as 
>an adult.  We didn't say a thing, but we won't be back again.

Your actions here from the false conclusion above is the problem. Rephrasing
here what you mean is - She charges for kids same as Adults. ok.

>A poster, while describing E of I recently, mentioned the samosas that
>are served with the buffet lunch.  That day there were no samosas, or
>appetizers of any sort.  Is this another cost cutting measure?

As few other posters mentioned, this place doesn't seem to have a fixed
menu etc. You just wait for what she brings out and eat it. So what you
get varies from day to day. Even though I don't like the service, sometimes
when I am in the mood for good food (diff from standard Indian restaurants)
I go to Empress of India. 

--Kalpak
From: kmd@fico.uucp
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: All-you-can-eat Japanese Food (summary)
Date: 12 Sep 92 15:17:03 GMT
Reply-To: kmd@fico.UUCP (Kathi Dietrick
Distribution: ba
Organization: The Fair, Isaac Companies, San Rafael, California

In article <18re0vINN61r@agate.berkeley.edu> bchen@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Benjamin Chen) writes:
>
>Here is a list of some AYCE Japanese food places based on the responses


>I received.  Thanks for all of the input.  I probably hit one tonight!
>
>Name                    Location
>--------------------------------
>1. Natori II            Redwood City, 1/4 mile south of Woodside Road,
>                        west side of El Camino
>2. Sushi Horikawa       Redwood City, El Camino near Whipple 
>3. Korean Garden        Sunnyvale, El Camino and Bernardo,(also has Korean food)
>4. Natori I             SF, 327 Balboa Street (415) 387-2565
>5. Korea House          Santa Clara, El Camino btw San Tomas Expressway
>                        and Los Padres Blvd.
>6. Bonsai               Redwood City, near Middlefield Rd.
>-- 
>Benjamin Chen
>Office:   550-A4 Cory Hall, 2-4332
>UUCP:     !ucbvax!diva!bchen               
>HEPNET:   LBL::"bchen@diva.Berkeley.EDU"

This is for all the Sushi fans north of San Rafael-I suggest Sushi Hana
in Sebastopol. Wednesday and Saturday are $1.00 per sushi days and
Monday and Thursday are "all you can eat" for 13.95.The food is delectable!
From: jordan@IMSI.COM (Jordan Hayes)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Coffee Grinders (Was Re: Looking for a *great* coffeemaker)
Date: 3 Sep 92 13:48:13 GMT
Organization: Investment Management Services Inc., NYC

James C. Bohem <james@cats.ucsc.edu> writes:

	the Braun needs to be cleaned quite frequently when grinding
	oily, dark-roast beans (esp. on the finer settings, for
	espresso) as they will gum up the spout from the grinder into
	the grounds drawer.

Maybe I missed something, but isn't this why Peets sells the brushes
that look like they got taken from the screw cap of a rubber cement
jar?  I always brush out what's left in the grinder each time I grind
(good to the last drop?), and have never had a problem with my braun
grinder.

/jordan
From: spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: NOT FOOD - Need hotel rec. in Monterrey fast!
Date: 10 Sep 1992 20:37:44 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
Distribution: ba
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cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:

>I'm going to take Greg's advice and take my wife to Triples for her
>30th birthday after some brief sea kayaking and the aquarium. I'd like
>a recommendation on a place to stay that is preferrably between the
>aquarium and Old Fisherman's Wharf (Wharf #1) that would have an ocean
>view. Money is no object, amenities like fireplaces a definite plus.
>This will be on Tuesday so hopefully I can still get a reservation this
>late.

I would stay in Pacific Grove instead, at either the Best Western or
the Asilomar Conference Center.  There are 1.5 - 2 miles past
the aquarium.

Steve
From: Zio zZz <zio@Garg.Campbell.CA.US>
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Choosing a restaurant
Keywords: food
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 15:33:09 PDT
Distribution: ba
Organization: The Land of Garg

aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius) writes:

> In article <lat4ttINNob5@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> hunt@squid.Eng.Sun.COM (Jim Hunt
> >
> >Warning:  I consider it possible that the fare on Labor Day, when lots
> >of families go out to pick the restaurant they will go to by default
> >when they go out the rest of the year, may have been better than normal.
> >But I have no reason to believe that either.  Just that I have seen
> >other places go beyond normal on big family holidays.
> 
> ????  I've never heard of this custom of choosing a "default
> restaurant", but then again, my family can never agree on the same
> restaurant twice running.....and, too, we almost never go to restaurants
> on the holidays that others do.
> -- 
>                          --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
>                              @netcom.com 
> 
> Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6
> 
> IRWTFM -- and that ain't fun

Believe it.  Default restaurant selection is real.....and sickeningly 
true with us.  When we have no idea where we want to go, but are 
convinced that staying home is COMPLETELY out of the question, we 
invariably go to the Carrows on Saratoga Avenue.  Most of the staff
there know exactly what we want the minute we show up, that is how often 
we go there...and how often we usually order the same thing there.
 
Us?  In a rut?  Naaaaahhh. :)
 
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: bhayes@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Barry Hayes)
Subject: Hot food
Originator: bhayes@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: ba
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 19:16:50 GMT

The Sharon Heights Safeway in Menlo Park has a shipment of jabenaro
peppers for your enjoyment.  I bought about a dozen and done a few
interesting [and several painful] things with them.  They bought this
case as a special favor, and if they sell well, they'll be more
inclined to do it in the future.

For those of you who do not know what a jabenero pepper is, it is
perhaps the hottest of the hot peppers, ranking a full ten on a scale
of one to ten.  It does have some flavor as well, but many people can
not get past the heat to get to the taste.  

Newsgroups: ba.food
From: sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund)
Subject: Re: Good burritos (was Re: Three great meals under $5)
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 19:24:19 GMT

In article <laqc7jINNecr@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> hunt@squid.Eng.Sun.COM (Jim Hunt) writes:
>In article <1992Sep03.002609.21174@sco.com> garyh@sco.COM (< Gary H >) writes:
>>
>>Does anyone know where I can get a Carne Asada Burrito just like they make it at
>>Robertos in San Diego (besides going down to SD)?? I love their food.
>>
I don't know about Robertos, but Taqueria La Bamba
2058 Old Middlefielf Rd, MV - 415-965-2755

their Quesadilla Zuisa (beef) is _to-die-for_ - it's $3.25 and
filled with beef, cheese, salsa....

plus, they deliver larger orders.......

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Newsgroups: ba.food
From: cgoldman@leland.Stanford.EDU (Charles Goldman)
Subject: Re: All-you-can-eat Japanese Food
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 00:37:31 GMT

bchen@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Benjamin Chen) writes:
>Hi,
>     Are there any all-you-can-eat Japanese food restaurants in the
>Bay Area?  I heard there was one in Redwood City, ...

It is called Natori II at 2550 El Camino Real, Redwood City (opposite
side of the street from the big Marshall's shopping center).

They charge $15.99 for dinner (I think it was 7.99 for lunch, but not sure).
We went last night and found some decent sushi (mostly quite fresh) supervised
by a friendly sushi chef.  The sushi was salmon, two kinds of tuna, yellowtail,
flying fish roe, salmon roe, uni (sea urchin), octopus, fake crab, CA rolls,
futomaki, seaweed salad, and some others.  The sushi chef replenishes the 
selections fairly regularly and can offer advice.

They also brought us a plate of sashimi (they said it was a special for
Mon-Thus dinner if you had 3 people or more or something like that) which
had white and red tuna and salmon that were all superb.

Besides the sushi, they had crab legs, whole blue crabs, black bass misoyaki,
grilled tiger prawns, calamari.  They had miso soup and an egg drop soup.

Also chicken teriyaki, spareribs, BBQ beef, another chicken dish, fried tofu,
several cold salads, fried rice and steamed rice.  For dessert there were
oranges, sliced watermelon and a strange red jello with a flavor we couldn't
quite identify. 

If you do not love seafood or sushi, this place is a poor value.  If you
dream of gorging yourself on sushi, give it a try.

Comapred to the California Buffet in Sunnyvale, they have much more variety
of sushi, slightly better fish to rice ratio, and it seemed fresher.  Natori
has much less in terms of cooked food, and no salad bar to speak of (not
a loss in my opinion).  Calif. buffet charges $12.99 for dinner, I think.
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Good burritos (was Re: Three great meals under $5)
From: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)
Date: 14 Sep 92 23:49:11 GMT
Reply-To: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)
 <laqc7jINNecr@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> <1992Sep11.192419.25573@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com>

sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund) writes:

  [...]Taqueria La Bamba
  their Quesadilla Zuisa (beef) is _to-die-for_ - it's $3.25 and
  filled with beef, cheese, salsa....

Just so folks know, you can also have it filled with any of their
other meat choices, it's just the *default* quesadilla that comes with
beef.  This isn't clear from their menu, which indicates that the
quesadilla comes one way only.  I always order mine with their
mouth-watering carnitas.  I've also tried an al-pastor one, but
carnitas is my personal favorite.  

As far as a cheap meal, I'm a fairly large eater.  Well, actually I'm
a really big eater (I can down one of their super burritos with ease),
but since I generally try to not give in to my appetite, I find that a
quesadilla is the best lunch bargain I've found.  Large (at 15"
tortilla is used for theirs) and yummy.  More than enough food for any
person with less mass than a small moon (at 6'3", I'm only the size of
a large asteroid :-).



--
Ken Wallich
wallich@ncd.com  
ken@wallich.com
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker)
Subject: Re: All-you-can-eat Japanese Food
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 05:39:39 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba

In article <18jff8INNl5i@agate.berkeley.edu> bchen@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Benjamin Chen) writes:
>Hi,
>     Are there any all-you-can-eat Japanese food restaurants in the
>Bay Area?  I heard there was one in Redwood City, but I couldn't find
>it in the phone book. 
>
>	Any tips appreciated,
>
It's about 1/4 mile south of Woodside Road on the west side of
El Camino.  It's near the ComputerAttic.


Newsgroups: ba.food
From: AH.PBL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark)
Subject: Re: Opinion Palo Alto restaurant
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 23:19:14 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.230735.9903@morrow.stanford.edu>,
HF.MMX@forsythe.stanford.edu (Marilee Marshall) writes:
>Has anyone out there gone to Polermo's Restaurant on University in
>Palo Alto?  I heard it's outstanding, but would like some more
>opinions.

  I go there often, it's very good.  BUT - I really wish that
they would offer a variety of vegetables.  They seem to serve
spinach with EVERYTHING!

  The roasted chicken/duck dishes are very good.  One of
their frequent "specials" (they usually have more items listed
as specials than on their regular menu) is pasta stuffed with
salmon.  Mmmmmmmm!

-- Mark

(Isn't it "Palermo's"?)
From: smarks@trantor.Eng.Sun.COM (Stuart Marks)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Coffee Grinders (Was Re: Looking for a *great* coffeemaker)
Date: 6 Sep 1992 03:48:30 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: smarks@Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: trantor

James C. Bohem <james@cats.ucsc.edu> writes:
	The Braun needs to be cleaned quite frequently when grinding oily,
	dark-roast beans as they will gum up the spout from the grinder into
	the grounds drawer.

jordan@IMSI.COM (Jordan Hayes) writes:
	I always brush out what's left in the grinder each time I grind
	(good to the last drop?), and have never had a problem with my braun
	grinder.

Mr. Bohem is talking about the Braun burr grinder where you load the beans
in the top and the grounds emerge in a drawer below.  I too have had lots of
trouble with this grinder clogging up with dark-roast coffee.  I had to
clean it out with a toothpick every few weeks.  I eventually got rid of it
and went back to the blade-style grinder, which is the kind that Mr. Hayes
appears to have.

Another problem with the Braun burr grinder is that it doesn't grind very
uniformly.  Even at a very coarse setting, it produced grounds that had a
lot of fine powder mixed in.  Do the high-end coffee grinders (like the
Olympia that sells at Peet's for $350 or so) have a more uniform grind?  And
do they clog up as easily?

s'marks

-- 
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Window Systems Technology		2550 Garcia Ave. M/S 21-228
SunSoft, Inc.				Mountain View, CA 94043
From: reza.naima@uttsbbs.uucp (Reza Naima)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: All-you-can-eat Japanese
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:38:00 GMT
Reply-To: reza.naima@uttsbbs.uucp (Reza Naima)
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591

>From: bchen@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Benjamin Chen)

>Here is a list of some AYCE Japanese food places based on the responses
>I received.  Thanks for all of the input.  I probably hit one tonight!
>
>Name                    Location
>--------------------------------
>1. Natori II            Redwood City, 1/4 mile south of Woodside Road,
>                        west side of El Camino
>2. Sushi Horikawa       Redwood City, El Camino near Whipple 
>3. Korean Garden        Sunnyvale, El Camino and Bernardo,(also has 
>Korean food)
>4. Natori I             SF, 327 Balboa Street (415) 387-2565
>5. Korea House          Santa Clara, El Camino btw San Tomas Expressway
>                        and Los Padres Blvd.
>6. Bonsai               Redwood City, near Middlefield Rd.
>-- 
>Benjamin Chen
>Office:   550-A4 Cory Hall, 2-4332
>UUCP:     !ucbvax!diva!bchen               
>HEPNET:   LBL::"bchen@diva.Berkeley.EDU"
>                                                                        
>                                        

  I would love to go to any one of those, but I don't think it's worth a 1 
and a half hour drive.  Does anyone know of a place near Walnut Creek, 
Concord?

Thanks in advance
Reza

reza.naima@uttsbbs.uucp

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From: aland@informix.com (Colonel Panic)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Coffee Source
Summary: a second thumb up
Date: 5 Sep 92 22:17:50 GMT
Organization: The Helen Keller Bondurant High Performance Driving School for the Blind

In article <1992Sep1.103501.12621@morrow.stanford.edu> francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir) writes:
>iHave I missed something? Throughout these coffee threads I have seen
>no mention of the Connoisseur Coffee Co. at 2801 Middlefield Rd., Redwood City.

I did!  I heartily recommend them.    (415) 369-5250.

>City. This is in the heart of the Barrio, a couple of blocks shy of the 
>Price Club but on the other side of the street. First, they have a great
>selection of beans, including from India and China. Second, they are roasting
>in smallish batches the whole time. Third, they roast not burn. Fourth, they
>always have about half-a-dozen different coffees available for tasting in
>large thermoses. Fifth, they are not overpriced. Their Aged Bali -- very, 
>very earthy to the point of foetid -- was my favorite but unfortunately
>their supply dried up. 

Today, they had a new bean they called "Indian Monsoon" -- quite earthy,
give it a try.

>their supply dried up. I now buy their Celebes Kalossi and at this time
>(4am) I'm making my first pot. Incredible aroma. 

They do the Kalossi well, also the Mochas Mattari and Sanani.  They always
do the Mattari in a medium roast and the Sanani in a dark roast.  They
also had a huge-bean Guatemalan today that was superb.

>They do most of their
>business with restaurants and markets and are, for example, the supliers
>to Richard's Market in Woodside. They also have an interest in the newish
>coffee shop attached to the Printer's Inc. on California in Palo Alto.
>Good people, too.

Agreed.

>Buon' appetito
>Fido

--
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From: paular@paigow.Eng.Sun.COM (Paul Arthur)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Another visit from Mom
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:19:17 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
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   Help! Mom is returning for her annual visit (along with my father). This
time their destination is San Francisco (specifically Fisherman's Wharf) and
points north. 

For those of you who missed out last time, I  need your assistance in finding
places to eat that they will both like. 

Here's the scoop:

My father is a staunch supporter of midwestern-type cuisine. Heavy on the 
red meat and gravy. Anything exotic is out, so forget about any 
recommendations in Chinatown. Fish is a maybe, but even that may be pushing it.
Mom is a little more adventerous and likes nice places (read: cloth napkins,
decent service and a view). 

  They are staying at a hotel near Fisherman's Wharf (I think it's the
Sheraton). One day they plan on exploring the wharf, so anything near the
wharf for lunch and dinner is appreciated. Ideas for Sunday brunch around the
wharf would also be a huge help. 

  They are talking about a day trip to the Muir Woods or Napa. Any suggestions
for where to eat in either area would also be appreciated. They may decide to
stay in San Francisco instead and explore the city, so any ideas on that would
be helpful. My knowledge of how to get around San Francisco is right around
zero, so easy to find places would be a big help.

 I am counting on all of you to come through and save me once again. ;-)  

thanks 

paul a. 

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Newsgroups: ba.food,rec.food.restaurants
From: "Saul Feldman" <demopcsrc@psilink.com>
Subject: Re: West/Central African Restaurants
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 23:17:55 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.2)

The restaurant is Eritrean and has now moved to 10th and Irving.  It's 
open for lunch and dinner.
From: hunt@squid.Eng.Sun.COM (Jim Hunt)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: All-you-can-eat Japanese Food
Date: 10 Sep 1992 00:15:57 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: squid

In article <18jff8INNl5i@agate.berkeley.edu> bchen@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Benjamin Chen) writes:
>     Are there any all-you-can-eat Japanese food restaurants in the
>Bay Area?  I heard there was one in Redwood City, but I couldn't find
>it in the phone book. 
>

I was at that one Monday night.  I ate four tiger prawn halfs, six alaskan
king crab claws (and a few legs too), and a couple dozen pieces of sushi.

For 15.99 / person.  They charge for tea, and beer is probably steep.
It is called Natori II, Natori 1 is in the Richmond district.
Located on the west side of El Camino, four blocks south of woodside rd.,
a few blocks north of the Atherton border.

They also have soups, tempura, teriyaki, and noodle dishes.  Sushi is
the full card, all the basics you would expect, all the basic rolls,
and a couple goodies, unagi and spicy tuna showed up.  Usually eight
to fifteen types to choose from.  It varied, getting better later on.

I had a very good time, but then, eating alaskan king crab claws IS
better than sex. (sex with alaskan king crabs that is!)

I barely touched the other things, they had a Kim Chee that sat me
back in my chair, and broiled fish, and oysters, and lots of things
that normally I would eat, but not when I can get crab claws and sushi.

Warning:  I consider it possible that the fare on Labor Day, when lots
of families go out to pick the restaurant they will go to by default
when they go out the rest of the year, may have been better than normal.
But I have no reason to believe that either.  Just that I have seen
other places go beyond normal on big family holidays.

I did drop in last week, when every other sushi bar in town was closed,
and ordered a spicy tuna roll to go, and it was very good, but the main
sushi bar says "no special orders".

I am NOT an expert of Japanese food, but I know what I like, and I got
lots of what I like there.  Try it out.  I fear that a connesewer would
trash the place for the same reasons that they always trash all you can
eat places, cold food, no service, selection.  But this place had enough
people that nothing got cold, and the service was great.  I have already
gone on about the selection.

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