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From: banerjee@hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh,alt.config
Subject: Re: alt.culture.bengali - Should we move it to soc.*/sci.*?
Date: 28 Dec 1992 19:06:51 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: hsc.usc.edu

In article <199212290039.AA17042@mp.cs.niu.edu> t60bss9@mp.cs.niu.edu (Bijoy Sagar) writes:

>on this proposal immediately as to how and when I need to do so and in such
>a case I would like consensus on the name. Please respond to this post immediately. If more people are in favor of acb, we will need to create it immediately
>but if more people prefer sci.l.b or soc.l.b, then we need to move the 
>discussion to news.* heirarchy.

I have already posted my opinions. I prefer Sci.lang.bengali and it
seems to me that if we are going to go through the voting phase, we
might as well archive it under a language newsgroup rather give it 
a more temporary alt*  status.

Like Bijoy said, we need a concensus on this and so please post your views
to the net. Last time I forgot to mention this and my mailbox was targetted
by several obviously concerned individuals berating me for my callousness
in not espousing the Bengali language cause. It took me the better part of one
afternoon, to convince them that this was not the case.

Samit

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: appy@churchill.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Pratul.Sharma)
Subject: How to buy a car ?
Organization: NCR Corp., Columbia SC
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 19:01:28 GMT

 Hi folks,
 
I have been in US for the past three months, I am married, and have a 9month old
 kid, and I need a car in another three months time when I get my family here.

What I need is a basic 4-door car with auto-trans, cheap, low on maintainence 
costs, and low insurance.

I am not familiar with the the various models available their performance etc.
I am not familiar with the things one looks for while buying a second hand car.
and finally I am not sure if it would be wise to buy a second hand car or a new
car. 

The thing I am sure of is 1) I need a car, 2) I don't have a credit history
( only 3 months in U.S ) 3) I need loan to buy the car. and 4) I need it now !!

Please help with by giving your views on how and what (make/model) to buy,

Your help will be greatly appriciated,

thanks in advance,

Pratul
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh
From: bhattach@quip.eecs.umich.edu (sayan bhattacharyya)
Subject: Shaping of Bengali Culture/Reply to Arindam
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 01:06:27 GMT

In article <1hdh7kINN86h@menudo.uh.edu> mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU writes:
>
>This shows the nature of your knowledge about Bengali Culture. The Bengali
>Culture as we know today started in the late nineteenth century: which is
>known as the Bengal Rennesiance. That it achieved so much in a span of 100
>years is amazing but true. Just like there is very little in common between
>the European culture before and after Rennesiance: so is true in Bengal.
>Bangla as a modern language was shaped primarily by Bankimchandra, Vivekananda,
>Rabindranath and Saratchandra: in chronological order. 


I think Arindam is taking a very narrow and elitist view of Bengali 
culture by claiming that the Bengali language and culture is solely
a product of the so-called Bengal Renaissance. Of course, the view 
he espouses is widely held in upper-class Bengali circles.

The fact is, the 'Bengal Renaissance' was an exclusive upper class and
upper middle class phenomenon, centred in Calcutta city, and confined 
to the aristocracy. It is simply pathetic to claim that Bengali culture
is synonymous with the culture that grew from that phenomenon. While 
I do not wish to deny the genius of people like Vidyasagar, Harish 
Mukherjee or Michael Madhusudan Dutt, who were partially the product 
of this phenomenon, in my view the true culture of Bengal has rural,
not urban,  roots , and is inalienably related to the wonderful and
unbroken continuum of folk culture, as represented in the works of 
the 'baul' and 'bhatiyali' muicians, and Baru Chandidas, Dwija 
Chandidas,  Ramprasad Sen, Lalan Fakir and others.

If one wishes to really understand the wonderful heritage ,strength
and resilience of Bengali culture, it is these earthly figures that 
one needs to turn to, and not to the 'babu' culture of nineteenth 
century Calcutta of which the effete and pretentious Bengali middle-class 
'bhadralok' of today is a successor. 


>Arindam


-Sayan.




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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose)
Subject: Re: Moslems@
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 23:25:00 GMT

imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) writes:


>This is absolutely wrong to say that every porblem is caused by muslims. 
>In fact the case is reverse, every porblem is created for the muslim.
			      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
			      HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !   IDIOT MUSTAFA !

>For example  in india , before the british invasion,there was used to be
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	YOU FOOLISH PAKISTANIS WASTE 90% OF YOUR ENERGY

	IN OPERATION 'DEFAME INDIA' , BUT, ALAS ! NO OUTCOME !!

	HA HA HA HA HA HA !!

	
>a muslim rule. In that more than 1000 years rule we donot find any
>hindu-muslim conflict. Even some of the Mughal Emperors used to have
>Hindu Wives. There was peace and harmony. But when hindu came into
		^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
		OH REALLY !!!   

		TYPICAL OF IDIOT MUSTAFA . 

	I PITY THE COUNTRY THAT TAUGHT YOU HISTORY .

>power , after british left india, they started planning to demolish
							 ^^^^^^^^^^^
>all the mosques in india. In fact , on the eve of the establishment
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	DEMOLITION OF EACH AND EVERY HINDU TEMPLE BY MUGHALS

	SHALL BE AVANGED . 
			UNDERSTAND  Mr. IDIOT !!

>of Pakistan there was a movement in india to convert all the muslims
					      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>to hinduism by force .
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


I WISH YOU KNEW , HOW YOUR POOR FOREFATHERS WERE FORCED TO ACCEPT

ISLAM . 


>Now surprisingly we find the exact situation in Spain. The same 
>country used to have muslims rule and in that rule we find no
>muslim-xtians tussle. But when xtians took over the charge they
>killed each and every muslim there just like they are killing 
>muslims in Bosnia. The president of France has already announced
>that Europe must be devoid of any muslim country.
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

      THEY DON'T WANT FILTHY PEOPLE IN EUROPE .




>If you please answer me the following questions .

>India can have nuclear weapons but Pakisatan cannot
>Israel can have nuclear weapons but Iraq cannot 
>South Africa can have nuclear weapons but Sudan cannot

	BECAUSE YOU DUMB-HEADED MUSLIMS DON'T KNOW

	HOW TO USE THOSE DANGEROUS WEAPONS .


>Why ?
>West is helping dying people in Somalia but why the same
>is blind over the massacre of people in Bosnia ? 

	HEY HEY!! WHY ARE YOU BEGGING THE WEST FOR HELP ??

	WHY DON'T YOU MUSLIM COUNTRIES UNITE AND RESCUE

	YOUR POOR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN BOSNIA >         



>Mustafa Ibrahim , KING OF IDIOTS

	EVEN A SHAMELESS COUNTRY , LIKE PAKISTAN IS ASHAMED

	OF YOU , MUSTAFA .
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: lahiri@pion.lanl.gov (Amitabha Lahiri  505-667-6825)
Subject: Re: Early Bengali lit. (was Alt.culture.bengal)
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 03:22:01 GMT

In article <1hi26uINN88f@menudo.uh.edu> mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU writes:
> Piriti Nagare Basati karibo
> Pirite Bandhibo Ghor
> Piriti dekhiya parasi karibo
> Ta chharra sakoli por
> 		Dwija Chandidas

Excellent! :-) I quote the verse again because it was good to see
someone posting them. No, I mentioned Chandidas (my personal favorite
of the pre-`renaissance' era) in reply to your `Only Bengali writings  
worthy of note before the Renessiance period ...' No offense meant.

> Arindam
Amitabha

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From: t60bss9@mp.cs.niu.edu (Bijoy Sagar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Soc.culture.bombay
Date: 27 Dec 1992 20:42:05 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


 Wonko the sane writes:

	In article <Bzw4Gu.MtJ@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, sonimh@mace.cc.purdue.edu (manish soni) writes:

>> I personally do not think a new newsgroup for Bombay will be of any
>> good. In any case, the name alt.culture.amchi.mumbai OR alt.culture.mumbai
>> is NOT appropriate for the city "officially" called **BOMBAY**"
>> This is not to hurt/offend any particular group of people.

>> Peace.
>> Manish Soni.

	You don't get it, do you? Wonko was sarcastic....S-A-R-C-A-S-T-I-C!
And he was actually responding to my alt.culture.bengali posting:-)

> chaailaa..

> abbey o soni, GAP BAS. aamala paahije alt.culture.mumbai. BTW, "officially"
> manje kai? the city's corporation is called brihanmumbai mahanagar palika.

> jai maharashtra

> jai hind.

> wonko, the sane.

Wonko,

	I PROPOSED MUMBAI, not YOU!! Anyway, that gut Soni really took the
whole thing to be too real. On the other hand, I am not keen on having
alt.culture.bombay or alt.culture.madras. But, I definitely won't say no
to them either:-)

Bijoyas Sagariccus. Chronically insane.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sonimh@mace.cc.purdue.edu (manish soni)
Subject: Re:alt.culture.bombay
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 23:41:17 GMT

I personally do not think a new newsgroup for bombay will be of any
good. In any case, the name alt.culture.amchi.mumbai OR alt.culture.mumbai
is NOT appropriate for a city "officially" called "**BOMBAY**"
This is not to hurt/offend any particular group of people.


Peace.
Manish Soni.



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: feng@netcom.com (Prasad)
Subject: Visa to US through post ??
Keywords: Tourist Visa, US
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:05:10 GMT

Hi,

Did any of you on the net have experience applying for
visitors visa (for parents) through post in India ? It's
really inconvenient for my parents to apply for visa
since they live far from any of the Indian metros. Any 
pointers would be greatly appreciated (specially where 
to get forms from, Consulate addresses, etc.)

BTW, if this question has been dealt with in the past and
there is an ftp archive on the net somewhere, please post
the address from where I can ftp it.

I am posting this through a friend's account. You can
either post replies on SCI, or send me an email at 
prde001@dsis.epri.com.

Regards,

Prasad.
prde001@dsis.epri.com
From: sdoki@ivy.WPI.EDU (Suresh Doki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: S.O.S!
Date: 24 Dec 1992 02:40:31 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, WPI
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: ivy.wpi.edu
Keywords: H-1, multiple

shanti@engin.umich.edu (Shanti Suresh) said:

[requests about some H-1 stuff deleted]


i think the best solution for this problem would be to marry a
citizen. 


suresh

ps: i am just kidding!! no offense....






yeah i am back due to popular demand!!! you asshole 'nick' are you 
listening?




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From: shubu@cs.wisc.edu (Shubhendu S. Mukherjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: New newsgroup proposal : alt.culture.bengali
Date: 27 Dec 92 17:07:25 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin @ Madison, CS Dept.


>>>>> In article <1hjhpsINNhci@aludra.usc.edu>, banerjee@aludra.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee) writes:

SB> I dont think that this is too much to ask for, considering that there
SB> have been several dissenting voices who have already expressed themselves 
SB> on the net. Without this referendum, ACB will be a another newsgroup
SB> thrust at us by a coterie to satisfy whatever personal reasons that they
SB> might have for it's creation.

SB> I hope the people pushing for ACB are listening,
		      ^^^^^^^
		      ^^^^^^^

To create any newsgroup (even for alt newsgroups), you need a discussion round 
and then a round for collecting votes.  

By the way Samit, looks like you are already under the impression that 
only very few people want this newsgroup even before the referendum you have
asked for has taken place.   Isn't it time to be politically correct (your 
use of word 'pushing' says it all)?

Luck!
-Shubu

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From: banerjee@hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Aayush Asthana, Lakhinder Walia and now Gupta (was Re: Mustafa)
Date: 27 Dec 1992 13:55:52 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: hsc.usc.edu

In article <1992Dec27.203845.19524@news2.cis.umn.edu> crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD)) writes:

>Ahh, once again the cry for censorship rises from SCI like a foul stench from
>an open latrine.  This time SUPRATIC GUPTA (note the arrogance of the sig)
>joins the other insanitary ones, Aayush Asthana and Lakinder Walia in 
>releasing this putrid miasma, causing us all to hold our breaths.

Supratic Gupta joins the indolent, egotistical, pussy footing, cross
dressing, transvestite coverting club of Aayush Asthana and Lakhinder
Walia.  Their puerile, inane arguments in favor of censorship on SCI
and their absolute ignorance about the nuances of networking or the
freeedom of expression, born largely out of shared experiences during 
an abused childhood  gives rise to persistent questions about their
mental capabilities.

>Those who post freely under the bill of rights are not
>raping the sensitivities of Victorian nannies like yourself.  If you persist
>in reading articles which traumatize your fragile emotions, then you bring
>such misfortune on yourself, and, like any other irresponsible schoolboy, you
>try to find a scapegoat for your self-abusive actions.

These self styled lieutenants of the net-police who emerge at specific,
intervals to voice their concerns about violations of USENET priviledges
seem to slither away into their crummy holes once the plethora of posts
on such benign aspects of our culture such as "looking for", "matrimonial",
"where to buy CD's", "wether to take a multisystem VCR to India" appear
with irksome consistency on the net. I suppose these champions of free
speech would have us believe that it is better to enquire about an H-1 
visa for the nth time and not extend the same courtesy to the state of 
the contents of Mustafa Ibrahim's cranial cavity. 

These computer illiterate, insolent hypocrites without a trace of literary
pretensions or intellectual creativity to post an article, need
to be reminded at frequent intervals that any individual's ability or    
priviledge to post to the net is not dependant on their patronage, much 
less their concurrance.  And while the futility of their actions seems 
obvious, it does set a dangerous precedent on SCI providing an impetus
for copy-cat whistle blower's to give vent to their vested interests. Any
fallout from such actions cannot be easily discounted or wished away.


Samit



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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: chander@leland.Stanford.EDU (Chandar Venkataraman)
Subject: Looking for a rommmate in San Jose Area
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 23:18:30 GMT

Wanted - A roommate to share a fully furnished 2 bedroom apartment for the
months of Jan - March (Jan 15 to Mar 22 to be precise). Attached bathrooms,
unlimited closed parking, tennis courts, gym etc. Rent around $500.

Contact either (408)261-1942 or (408)261-0249. Do not send emails.
From: shivanan@nyquist.usc.edu (Mr. Shivanan Bhajekar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Good News for India
Date: 23 Dec 1992 09:54:41 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: nyquist.usc.edu

In article <1ha8ooINNmkv@aludra.usc.edu> chviswan@aludra.usc.edu (Chandrasekar Viswanathan) writes:
>
>Hi,
>  There is an excellent News for India.The Olympic committee has decided to
>reserve 70% of the gold medals for SC/ST.So India can finally win 70% of the

	VP singh's politics seem to be popular in the World arena even though
	he failed dismally in India. I wish all this were true. We are the only
	country in the world which admits having SC/ST people as law abiding
	citizens. So I agree with Chandrasekhar the 70% of the medals would
	be ours!

>gold medals.This will help boosting our depleting gold reserves and also help 
>us top the medals tally in olympics.
>


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayana)
Subject: Re: Shnakaracharyas, And Their Outlook. Also Treatment Of Widows.
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:55:38 GMT

In article <1hsnpiINN5r@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu> vivek@ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu) writes:
>they feel that since they are going to die there, what's the need. The same
>people instead, are willing to spend crores of rupees in Tirupati, which is
>more a Commercial venture, than a place of pilgrimage now.  The  crass type 
>of greedy commercialism seen there in Tirupati,  leaves one in utter shame,
>of the lopsided priorities that people have.
>
>Ponder over these points, and try to find an answer to them.
>
>Regards,
>Vivek.
>
>

Noop, Tirupathi is not a commercial venture. Because on an average about
100000 people visit the temple every day, the TTD has to meet the obligatory
facilities requirements of the Temple town. As a result there is a problem
of overcrowding and catering to the needs of the piligrims. This leads
one to think that he doesn't have the peace of mind and the silence 
necessary for it. 

I have not seen anything greedy about the town; do you mean to say
the people are greedy! All around the world people are greedy! Thats
what brings us to USA.
...kt
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:42010 soc.culture.pakistan:18818
From: banerjee@hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Bengali culture for net.bhadraloks
Date: 30 Dec 1992 18:10:49 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: hsc.usc.edu

dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:

>  It simply sucks - what is going on in current-day Bengal. I am sure of one
>  thing; that is "sci.lang.bengali" - will only praise and kiss each other's
>  dirty behind, because *once upon a time* there were G--R--E--A--T Bengalis
>  like Tagore, Vidyasagar, J.C.Bose, Ashutosh Mookherjee and on and on and on.

Yes, Bengali's do have that penchant for looking back on the past and for
justifying their shortcomings based on the achievements of yore. And while 
a certain appreciation of history is called for (nay, required) the almost
paralyzing inability of an entire community to look beyond it's fence and
see the looming disaster ahead is inexplicable.

In a state that leads the nation in days lost due to strikes, where industries
are closing down faster than Jyoti Basu can skim money off the state's
revenues, where the electric supply is often referred to in the past tense and 
where Arindam's confectionary to make rosogolla and sandesh's would fall into
the heavy industry category, Bengali's seem unaware and what is worse,
unable to do anything. 

The overall impression seems to be one of resignation that often comes from 
an inability to make a difference. The signs of decay are everywhere, from 
the flight of the Bengali intelligensia to other states, to a complete
abdication of the Government functions to the party, to everything in the 
state being run by the "cadres" and finally the crowing ignominy of it all,
the party newspaper "Ganashakti" being increasingly accepted as the 
literary standard bearer in a state and city that have both seen better days. 
Amidst this decadence, the "fascist" rulers of Bengal can lay claim to only
two projects that have been completed, the second Hooghly Bridge (12 years 
behind schedule and costing 10 times as much) and the Eastern Metropolitan 
Bypass. Even the Bakreswar power project started after much fanfare in a bid 
to demonstrate the State's independence of the Central Govt. is still on the
drawing boards three years later and the one at Kolaghat conceived with an 
installed capacity of 1500 MW produces only 150-200 MW because of what the 
WB Govt euphemastically calls "technical difficulties".   

Comrades in disguise and "bhadrolok" baiting gentlemen of the net, 
any comments?


Samit

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University of Southern California   |  A man who smiles when things go wrong,
Internet: banerjee@scf.usc.edu      |  has found somebody to blame it on.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: varma@paul.rutgers.edu (not yet)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: KNOCK! KNOCK! P-Js
Date: 30 Dec 92 04:54:01 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Knock! Knock!
Who's there?
Amnesia.
Amnesia who?
You got it too.

Knock! Knock!
Who's there?
Sharma.
Sharma who?
Sharmao mat, darwaza kholo.

Knock! Knock!
Who's there?
Ya.
Ya who?
Don't be so happy, it's only me.



I could have sworn that I knew at least two million, three hundred and
forty seven thousand, eight hundred and fifteen more of those. Now all
I remember is Ajits phattas.  Can anyone post some more knock!  knock!
p-js pleazzzzz?

Thanx.
-- 
Harsh Varma
Department of Computer Science
Rutgers University

Disclaimer: None. Please, everyone adopt my opinion, I am right!

Postscript: Please dont flame me, and I get very scared by death
            threats.
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