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From: Reg Foulkes    
Subject: Re: Kirelin and HGH
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:59:11 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.133755.2580@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>
gattuso@ssd.comm.mot.com (Christopher Gattuso) writes:

>Only problem is that he has passed every test he has taken.  This has 
>included surprise tests about 2 months before competition, which is when
>steriods last cycle begins.  He trains outrageously.  Give him some 
>credit, everyone is scared of him.  He is the only person to pick up
>other SUPERHEAVYWEIGHTS, and drop them on their head (thank you, Bob 
>Costas).  He is just out there....

 Why cannot others train the same way and get the same results?
BTW, what exactly is his training schedule?

 
--------------------------------
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Telephone :(613) 763-4131     Ottawa, Ontario., Canada  K1Y 4H7
From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Triceps Exercises
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:48:28 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Jul24.104544.17698@specialix.co.uk>, kamal@specialix.co.uk (Kamal Mortoza) writes:
> lmiller@heineken.tuc.nrao.edu (Luther Miller) writes:
> 
> >A friend of mine told me to try an exercise using a cable pulley: Grip the
> >handle in one hand, palm facing up (this makes things harder) and with your
> >upper arm straight (vertical) extend your forearm downward. This is similar
> >to push downs except that you do one arm at a time and your grip is

I'd say experiment a little.  Try different bars (straight, curved, bent
downward (like an "A" without), rope only, etc.), different positions.
I've been cable pulls for triceps facing away from the machine, with the
bar over my head, and pulling until my arms are straight in front of me.
Varying the final angle (the angle the cable makes with your outstretched
arms at the completion of the rep) will enable you to "tune" the exercise.
I find that if the final angle is closer to a right angle (maximum force
exerted on the arms), I get a very good burn.  Of course, that will vary
with what each person has done before -- I get a burn now from that
because it's a slightly new exercise for me.  As soon as I get less,
I'll increase the weight or change the motion.

Lately I've been using a straight bar in standard, straight up, facing
the machine form, elbows locked at sides.  However, I keep my hands in
almost a "hammer" position (forearms positioned as if shaking hands
with someone).  I turn my hands just slightly in at the bottom (as if
beginning to turn them palm up) and just use my thumbs hooked on the
bar.  Maybe it's just me, but I find it brings my maximum poundage
down about 40% and gives quite a burn.  Again, tho', it's a slightly
new motion for me, and that might go away.  Using a "forefinger over
thumb" grip (like that used when deadlifting) helps.  I suppose I
could get the same effect with a full hand grip if I could find a
bar that was bent so as to be closer at the bottom, but I haven't
seen such a beast.  And using a rope that way didn't seem as
effective for some reason.

So experiment.  I think the angle (arm to cable, at various points
in the movement) is the most significant effect, personally.

GMS
From: loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: suggested books/exercises for ab work?
Date: 29 Jul 92 12:55:40 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <1992Jul28.194910.5407@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, aa595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Duvall) writes:
> 
> loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu writes:
> 
>>Dan, if you want your abs to look like that all the time, then your going to
>>have to get them cut by doing aerobic work and reducing your fat intake to very
>>little.
> 
> Already do. :)
> 
>>Aside from that, do the regular situps, crunches, and leg lifts to
>>build the abdominals and obliques.
> 
> I thought situps weren't good as a stomach-flattening exercise...
> comments?
> 
> -- 
>           aa595@cleveland.freenet.edu (Dan Doooooooovall)
Dan...You can have a flat stomach, but have nothing underneath.  In other words,
you can have a flat stomach, but not moch abdominal definition.  What are you 
looking for?  Just a flat stomach, or well defined abs with no fat that will
definately attract all the girls at the beach over all the other whales?

                                               --Rob
From: silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Arm Wrestling - Which Muscles ?
Date: 22 Jul 92 02:09:48 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <1992Jul22.105121.164255@dstos3.dsto.gov.au> bbw@itd0.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Brenton Williams) writes:
>
>   I have a chance to win $50 off my younger brother in five months by 
> beating him in an arm wrestling competition. This would be very satisfying.
>
> My questions :: 
>
>  Which muscles should I concentrate on developing ? 
>
>  In particular, how important are the forearms in arm wrestling ? My brother has
> stronger forearms than I, due to the many years he spent on the golf course, and
> he always bends my (weaker) wrist over when we compete.
>
>  Thanks in advance.
>
>                      Brenton

Brenton,

	I wish I was in South Australia right now, so I could take on your
brother.  I could use the extra money.  :-)  I posted an answer to this
question a couple of days ago.  Here's what I wrote:

Well, Guy, and anyone else who is interested, the most important muscle groups
are the following:  forearms (wrists), hand (gripping), biceps, triceps,
shoulders, and back.  You probably didn't expect me to say all that, but it's
true.

The exercises that should be concentrated on the most are the following:
wrist curls, grippers, hammer curls, straight bar curls, close grip bench,
triceps pushdowns, dumbbell rows, cable rows, etc.

The most important exercise to improve in armwrestling (one word--not two) is
armwrestling.  You MUST practice with someone.  It's not so easy to say that
the bigger person or stronger person will win.  There is also a lot of
technique involved.

If you have anymore questions, feel free to e-mail me.

I'm afraid that the most important muscles are the forearms, but strong
tendon strength plays an important role.

							-Adam


							-Adam

-- 
     **********************************************************************
     *               Adam Silver    Powerlifter/Armwrestler               *
     *           silver@umd5.umd.edu    University of Maryland            *
     **********************************************************************
From: mtp@oregon.uoregon.edu (Matthias Pohl)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: side effects of carbonated beverage consumption?
Date: 29 Jul 92 04:31:10 GMT
Organization: Dep. of Chemistry

> >In a previous article, aa595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Duvall) says:
> >
> >>
> >>Are there any major negative side effects from drinking
> >>carbonated beverages? Forget sugar, caffeine, etc-- does the
> >>carbonation itself have an effect?
> >
> >CO2 dissolved in H20 produces carbonic acid (I forgot the exact
> >formula).  This can wreak havoc on your digestive tract.  It probably
> >doesn't do much for your teeth, either.
> >

..well, there is real *no* reason of wondering if you will wake up tooth-
less the next morning after having had a pop the nite before :). As H2CO3
is not only a weak but also a very unstable acid the equilibrium for the
following equation is almost completely (>99.9 %) on the right side:

	   H2O + CO2 <---> H2CO3

That is almost all of the CO2 is physically dissolved in water rather than
having reacted to give H2CO3. And, once again, the very minute amount of
H2CO3 which actually forms is a very, very weak acid.

..for the phosphoric acid: I am not sure in what form it is added (that
is as the free acid or some compound derived thereof). But once again, even if it is the free acid I am sure it will have no measurable effect
on your teeth, i.e. decay. However, the relatively high sugar contents of
most of these pops is more likely to be of a problem, not only to your
teeth but also to your waistline :).

..chemists come in handy some times, huh ?:)

Matthias
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: Dymetadrine 25
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:59:07 GMT

In article <14746@umd5.umd.edu> silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver) writes:
>I couldn't find ephedrine hydrochloride in any pharmacies around my area.
>The pharmacists just said they didn't have it.

Tell them to order it for you.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Dymetadrine 25
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:43:06 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <1992Jul29.151637.4675@cbnewse.cb.att.com>, gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:
> In article <17306@autodesk.COM>, mickw@autodesk.com (Mick Washbrook) writes:
>> In article <1992Jul21.181536.4769@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, ah532@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Gleba) writes:
>> > Does anybody have any info/experience with this stuff? Side effects? 
>> > or anything? All info would be greatly appreciated. Send mail if
>> > possible.
>> 
>> This stuff is the best thing I've found yet. It's usually taken for
>> asthma, but is great for working out too. I find that it frees up
>> my breathing, increases my concentration, and lets me lift heavier
>> weights for longer. You might try stacking it with a product called
>> E.P.H. 833. If you're a light sleeper, you might find the Dymeta-
>> drine makes it harder to get to sleep after your workout. I find
>> two tablets does me just fine.
> 
> What could the possible side-effects be?  What contraindications
> might there be with other preexisting conditions?  Hard to believe
> there are no drawbacks.  
> 
> GMS

Side effects are relatively nil.  Of course there are drawbacks with it as with
all drugs if you take enough of it.  The only side effects you might feel is
a slight nervousness or jitteryness (sp?).  This should go away however.  If it
continues then you should not take it.  Obviously, if you take more than your 
supposed to, then your in trouble.  Just like if you OD on Pepto Bismol or even
aspirin.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: TAC@ysub.ysu.edu (Troy Allen Cross)
Subject: Re: Question on Universal
Originator: news@news
Organization: Youngstown State University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:41:29 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.215909.15268@auto-trol.com>
stedee@auto-trol.com (Steve Deemer) writes:
 
>
>                                           The question is: which
>of the two weights corresponds more closely to free weights?  Is
>ten reps at 100 lbs. marked at the low end on the bench press
>station equivalent to ten reps at 100 lbs. with free weights?
>
I believe that the weight marked on the low end is suppose to be
the weight at the beginning of the motion and the weight marked
on the high end is suppose to be the weight at the end of the motion.
The weight marked are probably okay for a free weight trainer to use
when he has to (on a business trip at a hotel).  However, a machine
trainer will probably not be able to lift an equivalent amount of
free weight because on the balance required.  Also, myself being a
free weight trainer, has found that the groove the machine follows
does not usually match my own.
 
Troy
From: SSDC2@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (J Green)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Shoulders
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:21:13 GMT

>From: lmiller@heineken.tuc.nrao.edu (Luther Miller)
>>>Anyone know any good shoulder exerices with dumbbells?
>>
>>1.  Upright Dumbell Rows
>
>Correct if I'm wrong, but...
>
>I learned that upright rows are a back exericise.

you are correct.
they are definitely a TRAPS exercise (TRAPS are the muscles between your
shoulders and your neck). i do prefer to do them after my shoulders are
warmed up tho, personal preference, your mileage may vary! ;-)

Janice

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From: bhjelle@vaxine.unm.edu (Brian Hjelle)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: EXERCISE POLL
Date: 24 Jul 92 19:32:15 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <13182@texsun.Central.Sun.COM> stever@toptech.East.Sun.COM writes:
>
>     Hello TO All You Health Conscious People,
>
>        I'm putting this blurb on the Internet as a " POLL " to find out
> how many people would be interested in what I have in mind.
>
>        How many of you are looking for that exercise that will NOT ONLY
> TONE YOUR BODY but will also GET RID OF THOSE FLABBY STOMACH MUSCLES and
> UNWANTED HANDLEBARS ? It will also benefit your circulation through your
> whole body and give you a cardiovascular workout all at the same time.
>
>        " YOU CONTROL " the amount of power exerted and also the speed and
> intensity of your own workout. Once you get to your desired goal then you 
> can intensify your workout and get real good definition and a " GREAT CUT
> LOOKING MIDSECTION ".
>
>        Please give me a response of yeh, neh on this for your interest level.
>

"MY INTEREST" level is "LOW" because I sense this posting is 
"HOPELESSLY COMMERCIAL".

Brian
From: tzf@csl.biosci.arizona.edu (Theron Friedman)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Sweating !!!!
Date: 25 Jul 92 00:21:19 GMT
Reply-To: tzf@csl.biosci.arizona.edu
Organization: U of Arizona, CS Dept, Tucson


I just saw a little article in the local paper, some doctor claiming
that sweating is actually very good for the skin, keeps it moisturized,
lubricated, vital, glowing, etc. etc. The conclusion was something like
"if you want to have your skin look as good at 80 as it did at 40, sweat."


Just from thermodynamic considerations one would expect that -> on the average <-
 women would sweat more than men when doing equal work. Remember that
the female body has a thin layer of fat under the skin which the male body
doesn't have; this serves as an insulator, which suggests that a woman's
body will have to work harder to get rid of the excess heat from exercise.
Ergo more sweat.
        [ keywords here are "on the average". To many variables of individual
anatomy & conditioning to expect this to always be true.]
~
From: clong@remus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Super Gripper
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:48:38 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Jul29.190210.2380@news.Hawaii.Edu>, Robin Amano writes:

> At a local sports store I saw an Ivanko Super Gripper.
> It looks like the one in the Ironman ad.

It is.  I don't like it that much because it digs into my hand.
If it feels fine to you, I'd recommend, because it is nicely
adjustable.

Hey Adam, I'm up to 38 reps on the #1 gripper, and 80x8 100x8
80x8 in the dumbbell press using the 2" diameter handles.
-- 
Chris Long, 265 Old York Rd., Bridgewater, NJ  08807-2618

"In a study of schoolboys, an educator discovered a correlation between size
 of feet and quality of handwriting.  The boys with the larger feet were,
 on the average, older."        Wallis & Roberts, _The Nature of Statistics_
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: aa595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Duvall)
Subject: leg/feet position during flat bench?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 14:24:33 GMT


What's the best postition for my legs and feet when doing flat
benches on a Universal machine? I see some people put their feet
on the bench w/ their legs bent, others hook their legs over the end
of the bench, and still others angle their legs slightly so they hang
off the sides of the bench. Comments?

-- 
          aa595@cleveland.freenet.edu (Dan Doooooooovall)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: lmiller@heineken.tuc.nrao.edu (Luther Miller)
Subject: Weird
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Tucson Az.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 22:05:45 GMT


Is it just me, or were 24 "old" messages somehow reposted to the net??
If this is an isolated incident, I apoligize for using the bandwidth..

Luther
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: hillyard@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Sean Edward Hillyard,F7 Clark,50649,)
Subject: Re: Heart rates...
Originator: hillyard@msc2.msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:32:02 GMT

From article <1992Jul30.185237.122@cas.org>, by jdh64@cas.org (Dave Huddle):
> In article <weRhzKK00WB2E98qkG@andrew.cmu.edu>, ls3c+@andrew.cmu.edu (Laurence
> D. Silverman) writes:
> |> All,
> |> 
> |> I know everyone's is different, but I'm curious to hear what everyone's
> |> at-rest heart-rate is (and age, also).
> |> 
> |> -Lar
> 
> At-rest heart-rate, usually 42-47 as measured on the bp/pulse machine at work.
> Sometimes its in the 50-55 range.  Age 51 non-athlete, but I do about 30 min of
> aerobic stuff (NordicTrack, jog or exercise-bike) 4 to 5 days a week.

Geez, all these low rates.  Mine at this moment is 78 (age 24).

Mine in general seems in the high rage--during track practice the coach
would often have us take a pulse and start the next interval when the
group's reached an acceptable rate.  Mine was always higher than everyone 
else's.

This signify anything?

SEH
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: EXERCISE POLL
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:24:09 GMT

In article <13182@texsun.Central.Sun.COM>, stever@toptech.East.Sun.COM (Steve Rosenthal  Sun Microsystems  Tampa FL  Field Engineering) writes:
> 
>      Hello TO All You Health Conscious People,
> 
> 
> 
>         I'm putting this blurb on the Internet as a " POLL " to find out
>  how many people would be interested in what I have in mind.
> 
>         How many of you are looking for that exercise that will NOT ONLY
>  TONE YOUR BODY but will also GET RID OF THOSE FLABBY STOMACH MUSCLES and
>  UNWANTED HANDLEBARS ? It will also benefit your circulation through your
>  whole body and give you a cardiovascular workout all at the same time.

Is Suzanne Sommers involved in this somehow?

GMS
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: pascoe@rocky.gte.com (Dave Pascoe)
Subject: Pain in calf muscles....jogging
Organization: GTE/SCSD
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:58:13 GMT

I recently returned to jogging after a long (4 year) hiatus.  I find
that I have the stamina to go fairly far but my calf muscles are in
heavy pain.  Is this just a result of not using the muscles in this
way for a long time?  Or is it something I should get checked out?

Any helpful hints would be appreciated....
--
Dave Pascoe
pascoe@rocky.gte.com
From: redmondd@unix1.tcd.ie (Judge Raz)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Assumptions of Drug Use by Olympians or Anyone Else (Very Informative)
Date: 31 Jul 92 00:10:23 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

Since this has been brought up I've two questions which I hope
you can answer for me.

a) What are the characteristics / side effects of steroid use/abuse?

b) Has anyone seen the Chinese swimmers Li Lin ans Yong Zhuang on TV.
   What are your opinions as regards possible drug abuse based on their
   physiques. Both are *big* for female swimmers and have deep voices.
   There are arguments / discussions raging on rec.sport.olympics and
   soc.culture.chinese.

Thanks in advance,

Judge Raz.

redmondd@unix1.tcd.ie  |    ~~~    |  You got nobody now you want my soul 
Donncha Redmond        |    o-o    |  Now can't have none of that 
National Swim Team     |     ^     |  Tell her whatta say Mace 
Ireland		       |    `-'    |  Say no go		-- De La Soul
Newsgroups: misc.fitness,rec.sport.triathlon
From: mvm@caesun6.harris-atd.com (Matt Mahoney)
Subject: Re: New Triathlon
Reply-To: mvm@epg.harris.com (Matt Mahoney)
Organization: CAE Design Center, Harris Corp., Melbourne, Fl.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:36:17 GMT

In article <Brt75F.JsF@csfb1.fir.fbc.com> uunet!csfb1!dwarren writes:
>I think I've invented a new triathlon I'd like to try.  In New York's 
>Central Park, one circuit around the park is around 10K.
>
>  30K on bicycle
>  20K on rollerblades
>  10K running
>
>I'd shoot (aggressively) for under three hours.

Funny you should mention that.  It happens I did each of the above
(although different distances) in three separate races, all last Saturday
in Tampa: a 5K run at 8:00 AM, an 8K skate at 8:30, and a 5 mile criterium
bike race at 11:30.

I did the 5K as a training run, since I was competing in a triathlon
the next day (1.5K swim, 40K bike, 10K run).  I ran negative mile splits of
7:05 (moderate), 6:40 (harder), and 6:00 (race pace), and finished in 
20:21.  That gave me 10 minutes to go back to my car and put on my skates.

I came in dead last in the skate.  I noticed that everyone was wearing
$500 5-wheel racing skates, while I had on a pair of $70 Bladerunners
with wheels about half the size of everyone else.  The first 10 or 15
skaters formed a pace line and skated about 25 MPH.  I managed about 7 MPH.

The criterium was a 6-lap course with lots of turns.  I raced in the
Mens Open/Cat 5 division, which is the most dangerous since the riders
are less experienced.  I stayed with the pack of 20-30 for 3 laps at speeds 
of 25-31 MPH and narrowly avoided a 3-bike pileup in the first lap.  I
averaged 23.6 MPH, slow but not last.  I much prefer biking in triathlons,
as it is so much safer.

By the way, none of this racing affected my performance at the Summer
Sizzler Triathlon (in Groveland FL) the next day.  I finished in 2:23:47,
my fastest.  This was my 5'th year in the event, with previous times
of 2:49, 2:30, 2:29, and 2:26.  This race is always hot; sunny,
low 80's and 80-90% humidity in the early morning.

--------------------------------        _\/_
Matt Mahoney, mvm@epg.harris.com       |(TV)|  Drug of the Nation
#include <disclaimer.h>                |____|

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: cecchinr@berra.cs.rpi.edu (Ron Cecchini)
Subject: Re: LOOK at what Art Wittmann did to my Powerlifting Sig
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:04:14 GMT

In article <14613@umd5.umd.edu> silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver) writes:
>In article <f=sxaqb@rpi.edu> cecchinr@berra.cs.rpi.edu (Ron Cecchini) writes:
>>
>>Will you 2 girly-men give it a rest!
>>
>>We all know I could kick both your asses!
>>
>>Ron
>
>Prove it, you wimp!  :-)
>
>Do you want to armwrestle me too?  We should have a bench/squat/armwrestling
>competition.  :-)
>
>							-Adam
>
>-- 
>     **********************************************************************
>     *               Adam Silver    Powerlifter/Armwrestler               *
>     *           silver@umd5.umd.edu    University of Maryland            *
>     **********************************************************************

Ah,  I don't have to prove nothin' !

But now that you mention it, Poo tells me that you
are going to be visiting our part of the world soon -
so maybe we'll see soon enough *just* how good you are (and then
I'll get to post a really good critique on the net!)

Ron