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From: pete@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Peter Alexander Merel)
Subject: Blade Runner '92
Summary: Blade Runner '92 (the director's cut) - when here?
Keywords: When?
Organization: Customised Software Solutions Centres, AOTC
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 02:39:30 GMT

As readers of alt.cyberpunk et al. will be aware, the much vaunted long debated
and endlessly fascinating 1992 Director's edition of Blade Runner will gain
wide release in the US some time next month. Only a little is known about
the new edition, but from quoted reviews of tonight show interviews with
Rutger Hauer and <J.F.Sebatien> we do know that:

. It contains no narration
. It has no happy ending
. It is considerably longer than BR '82.

The BIG QUESTION, of course, is whether or not it contains the unicorn scene.
The original "director's cut" that had a very limited release in LA earlier 
this year did not, but was reportedly accompanied by a written announcement 
from Riddley Scott that admitted that he did not regard the film as complete 
without it. The scene is crucial to the question of whether or not Deckard 
himself was a replicant.

Other surprises that may or may not appear in the film include:

The Fifth Replicant - in early versions there may or may not have been an
actual fifth replicant (not Rachel) named Mary.

The Orgasma Mask & The Cryo Crypt - in "The Blade Runner sketchbook" there
are production designs for a sexual device that Zhora uses, and a cryonic
suspension tank for Tyrell.

The Space Scenes - early versions of the script had at least one off-planet 
scene.

Other things that I'm dying to find out:

What did Deckard actually say to Hasan ben Hasan?
How did Batty know Deckard's name?
How many replicants were there, really?

The LITTLER QUESTION, of course, is when we'll get to see it here. Is anyone
well connected enough to know? There will be 70 mm cuts aplenty in the
northern hemisphere next month - surely one will find its way south?

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Where was I when the rope broke?
From: ccmk@lure.latrobe.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.films
Subject: Re: Patriot Games
Date: 8 Sep 92 01:27:13 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: VAX Cluster, Computer Centre, La Trobe University

In article <1992Sep7.124833.8142@ucc.su.OZ.AU>, jasonh@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Jason Haines) writes:
> From article <1992Sep7.193043.1@lure.latrobe.edu.au>, by ccmk@lure.latrobe.edu.au:
>> This has shit-all to do with films (although we could make it so by
>> asking how many films have the SR-71 in it? - I can think of only
>> one at the moment - whose title escapes me - the one with the robot
>> boy that lives with a family for awhile but belongs to the U.S.
>> government).  Nevertheless, here are some facts, from the 1967 edition
>> of the Observer's Book of Aircraft (no metrics!):
> 
> The movie you mention is DARYL, which did not have an SR-71 appear in it.

Hmmm.  What was he flying near the end of the movie?  Have I got this
mixed up with another film?

Mark Kosten
(ccmk@latrobe.edu.au)
From: sjames@adam.adelaide.edu.au (S James)
Newsgroups: aus.films
Subject: Re: Eraserhead
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:27:47 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: The University of Adelaide
NNTP-Posting-Host: adam.adelaide.edu.au

derbyc@tplrd.tpl.oz.au (Derby Chang) writes:
>Hi all,

>Saw the David Lynch doco last night on SBS.

>Does anyone know if you can get `Eraserhead' on video?  I've only ever seen
>clips, and now I'm really curious.


I have never seen the film on video, and I have been through most of the strangevideo stores. One store did have a behind the counter copy about 3yrs ago, it
had been refused classification for some reason!!
It will be interesting to see if someone turns it up in aus.
Anyway it is probably best to wait until it is shown in the cinema again
and catch it there, a very dark film, which would be lost on the small screen

steve james
From: s892341@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Matt=Goodall)
Newsgroups: aus.games.roleplay
Subject: Re: Judging Roleplaying
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:48:24 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

davidc@bilby.cs.uwa.edu.au (David Cake) writes:


>	At a completely disastrous tournament run here in Perth a few
>years ago, a team of several of my friends completed the (ridiculously
>easy) scenario in the fastest time. Some other teams completed the 
>scenario in about an equal time, and also with no losses. They all
>got effectively close to maximum scores. Despite the fact that there
>were no NPCs that you could talk to in the scenario (apart from a generic
>'guide' who turned out to be an evil vampire, and actively discouraged
>conversation (he did nothing vampiric except for attacking the party at
>the end, and was not vulnerable to sunlight, so no clues as to his status))
>the judging came down to 'roleplaying' points.

I think this should be true for most tournaments,  a few parties should be able
to complete the session, in terms of problem solving and other stuff, but 
it should come down to who roleplays best if there are two teams on perfect
problem solving scores. However for a session like this (lots o combat, no
NPCs) I feel the roleplaying should be around 25% of the marks. 

>My friends did not win, because
>although they were first on other points, another team got a much higher mark
>for roleplaying, despite having had their Lawful Good cleric animate dead on
>a party of elves that attacked them, and use them as cannon fodder.

Elves don't have souls, so it's just like animating animals, right? :->

>	Roleplaying points should perhaps be given some fairly strict 
>guidelines, and not be simply a number plucked from the air. With good
>GMs who have some agreement as to what constitutes good roleplaying, awarding
>points is a fine idea. With out some guidelines, it is equivalent to adding
>an element of random chance (will this GM appreciate our style?) or an
>opportunity for bias.

Why not roll a d10? (only kidding) I agree you should have some guidelines
in the module as to how to score roleplaying. The character's personality 
in point form is a good idea, as well as some dos and don'ts.

Ex. LG Priest -25 for animating sentient creatures.

>	BTW the person who designed the appalling scenario in question (it
>had other disasters, like it was allegedly runable under multiple systems,
>leading us to believe it might be roleplaying based, but was combat intensive,
>and much harder under certain systems) is alleged to be writing supplements
>for RoleMaster now. Hi Lev!

>						David Cake

>-- 
>David Cake		|life is easily understood as bit strings with logical
>[WLM] Weird Little Man	|depth greater than their length - Rebis, Doom Patrol
>Cognitive science, UWA	|..think about a government entirely of fish - JBC				
Newsgroups: aus.games.roleplay
From: s903609@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (ACE)
Subject: Sorry Lisa, Don't Know What Happened
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:42:35 EST

Many thousands of apologies,
			    It would seem that someone has either used my
account, or my extraordinary signature to slander you. Don't know how or why.
Sorry,
			      ACE
                  s903609@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
	        " How deep is the ocean ? " Eric
" No Silicon Heaven ? But where would all the calculators go ? " - Kryton
-- 
			      ACE
                  s903609@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
	        " How deep is the ocean ? " Eric
" No Silicon Heaven ? But where would all the calculators go ? " - Kryton
Xref: sparky aus.games.roleplay:358 rec.games.frp.marketplace:538
From: phil@adam.adelaide.edu.au (Phil Kernick)
Newsgroups: aus.games.roleplay,rec.games.frp.marketplace
Subject: AD&D Modules for sale or swap
Date: 8 Sep 92 07:17:33 GMT
Organization: University of Adelaide, South Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: adam.adelaide.edu.au

I have the following AD&D modules for sale or swap.

I4     Oasis of the White Palm          $6     (9053)
S2     White Plume Mountain             $5     (9027)
S4     The Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth    $8     (9061)


They are all in excellent condition (no marks, no loose pages etc).

I am interested in getting the following modules:
C6, DL5, DL6, DL7, H1, H3, I12, I13, I14, N3

If you want to swap one of my modules for one of the above (or any other
module, since I may want others) in excellent condition, then let me know.

Please note that *you* pay postage, and since I am in Australia the prices
at the top are in A$ for Australians/New Zealanders and US$ for anyone else.


Phil.


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Newsgroups: aus.games.roleplay
From: markg@vulcan.anu.edu.au (Mark Grundy)
Subject: Re: Judging Roleplaying
Originator: markg@vulcan.anu.edu.au
Reply-To: markg@arp.anu.edu.au
Organization: Australian National University, Canberra, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 04:33:28 GMT


In article <2008@sheoak.bcae.oz.au>, paul@redgum.ucnv.edu.au (Paul Smith) writes:
    >> One other thing that I think deserves consideration is the percentage
       of a team score that is based on roleplaying.  In recent years it has
       usually been 50% roleplaying (in the AD&D) but this year's  Arcanacon
       major AD&D (Buate Dosta) was 2/3 roleplaying.  Is this a good  thing?
       Will next years winners not move from the first encounter?

    > It can be a  good thing, it all depends  on how it was advertised  and
      played.  If it is advertised as being roleplaying only then it  should
      be 100% roleplaying.   This goes  into the area  of Flyer  Information
      Integrity where the  score percentages  should reflect  the amount  of
      emphasis on things like roleplaying,  problem solving etc.  which  was
      indicated in the flyer.

        Hear hear!  It's important that people know what they're paying  for
    before they play it.  Advertising of RPG's is a lot more important  than
    people often realise.
-- 

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 markg@arp.anu.edu.au                                              Mark Grundy
From: s903609@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Eldraz)
Newsgroups: aus.games.roleplay
Subject: Re: Lisa Chevallier....
Keywords: Perpetual Pest
Date: 10 Sep 92 23:03:34 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

mdonalds@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Michael Donaldson) writes:

>Thanks,
>Michael Donaldson.
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>My thoughts are mine and in no way represent that of 'Shadow League'.
>I am just a messager for them and but a pawn in the game of life!
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>P.S.  Lisa I personally think from reading notices that you post in
>      reply to other notices that you are either a complete bitch, a
>      pest, an idiot, or someone who has too much time.  Anyhow, you
>      have wasted too much of y time so....

How did you guess? 

or how about:
(d) All of the above.

>...Piss off.
-- 
			      ACE
                  s903609@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
	        " How deep is the ocean ? " Eric
" No Silicon Heaven ? But where would all the calculators go ? " - Kryton
Newsgroups: aus.games.roleplay
From: davidc@bilby.cs.uwa.edu.au (David Cake)
Subject: Re: Judging Roleplaying
Organization: Dept. Computer Science, University of Western Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 03:11:40 GMT

	At a completely disastrous tournament run here in Perth a few
years ago, a team of several of my friends completed the (ridiculously
easy) scenario in the fastest time. Some other teams completed the 
scenario in about an equal time, and also with no losses. They all
got effectively close to maximum scores. Despite the fact that there
were no NPCs that you could talk to in the scenario (apart from a generic
'guide' who turned out to be an evil vampire, and actively discouraged
conversation (he did nothing vampiric except for attacking the party at
the end, and was not vulnerable to sunlight, so no clues as to his status))
the judging came down to 'roleplaying' points. My friends did not win, because
although they were first on other points, another team got a much higher mark
for roleplaying, despite having had their Lawful Good cleric animate dead on
a party of elves that attacked them, and use them as cannon fodder.
	Roleplaying points should perhaps be given some fairly strict 
guidelines, and not be simply a number plucked from the air. With good
GMs who have some agreement as to what constitutes good roleplaying, awarding
points is a fine idea. With out some guidelines, it is equivalent to adding
an element of random chance (will this GM appreciate our style?) or an
opportunity for bias.
	BTW the person who designed the appalling scenario in question (it
had other disasters, like it was allegedly runable under multiple systems,
leading us to believe it might be roleplaying based, but was combat intensive,
and much harder under certain systems) is alleged to be writing supplements
for RoleMaster now. Hi Lev!

						David Cake

-- 
David Cake		|life is easily understood as bit strings with logical
[WLM] Weird Little Man	|depth greater than their length - Rebis, Doom Patrol
Cognitive science, UWA	|..think about a government entirely of fish - JBC				
Newsgroups: aus.games.roleplay
From: c9221777@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (David Peterson)
Subject: Re: Mail Order Address?
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 23:15:28 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.152232.1@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz>, taia_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
> 
>  Just wondering if someone could help me out.
> 
>  As you probably know NZ is pretty isolated :)
>  *Yeah,think of your best Kiwi joke* :)

Actually I don't find kiwi jokes all that amusing, especially as most of them I
hear tend to be directed at me :-)

> 
>  I need the address of any gameshops that do mail orders.
> I especially want the address of Military Simulations.

I've got a few addresses lying around at home, including that of Military
Simulations.  If you are interested in any of products from Games Workshop
(Warhammer,etc) I have found that when exchange rates are at a reasonable level
get something airmailed from England is cheaper than walking down the street to
the local Games/Hobby store.

Anyway, I do not have the addresses upon my person at this moment in time
(being at uni right now) but will post the addresses here for the education of
all sometime this evening with any luck.

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From: s925952@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Peter P Plompen)
Newsgroups: aus.games.roleplay
Subject: WANTED: AD&D Module - H3 The (something) of bloodstone
Date: 10 Sep 92 04:54:01 GMT
Distribution: aus



Hello there,
           Myself and some stalwart companions have been playing an ongoing
campaign for the last 4 years, and, as can be expected we are now high level.
Our DM has decided to run us through the bloodstone pass series but we do not
have H3. If anyone is in the Melbourne vicinity and wishes to sell it (or even acopy), can you mail me at:
                         s925952@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU

Hope to here from you soon

Peter.


Newsgroups: aus.games.roleplay
From: braca2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au (BRAY CHRISTOPHER)
Subject: New RPG, survey
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:25:23 GMT

This is a quick yes/no sort of survey.  I am trying to work out how I should
design a new rpg I am presently writing, independently of any publishing
house.  This is my market research.  The more people who reply the more
accurate this will be.

If you feel there is anything else you wish to add then please do so.
This is totally anonymous.

PLEASE REPLY BY EMAIL TO THE ADDRESS AT THE END.

If another game was to come out, what sort of genre would you like to play:

Fantasy	[  ]	Horror [   ]	Contemporary [   ]	Superhero [   ]

Science Fiction [   ]	Space Opera [   ]	Dark Futre [   ]

Mixed Genre ( ie Shadowrun, Torg) [  ]	Multi Genre (GURPS,etc) [   ]


How much time would you want to spend on character generation

<10 minutes [   ]	10-30 minutes [   ]	about 1 hour [   ]

2 hours [   ]	All day [  ]


Would you prefer:

random rolled characters [   ]		Point based system [   ]

a bit of both [   ]


What is your favourite system: ( explain why if you want to )


What is your most hated system: (why if  you wish)


Would you prefer your task system to be:

single die roll [   ]	Bell curve (2D6, etc) [   ]

Percentile(D100) [   ]	No. of successes (as in ShadowRun) [   ]


Would you like to see a basic system that could 'open out' with rules to 
suit your style of gaming? (i.e. a relatively abstract system that you could
focus on Magic, politics, horror, combat as you wished)



Would you prefer a large skill list, where a skill of 0 meant no or little
ability; or have each character with differing proficiencies, where a skill 
level represents some expertise, or understanding of a difficult field ?
(ie sport, theiving, physics, computing, combat)

Do you feel that social interaction should be governed by rules, or by 
roleplaying.\

Is there anything you wish to add?


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From: s903609@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (ACE)
Newsgroups: aus.games.roleplay
Subject: RMITcon MORE INFO !!!
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:38:21 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.


			RMITcon Announcement.
		When  : 12th to 14th February, 1993.
		Where : Most of RMIT, in the city of Melbourne.
		What  : Many events, including ;

	 		- Battletech 
			- AD&D 1st and 2nd edition
			- Cyberpunk 
			- Cthulhu 5th edition
			- Shadowrun 2nd edition
			- Freeforms 
				( inc. one from Morganna )
			- Fluffy 
			- Rolemaster 
			- ANIME exhibition 
			- PBM demos 
			- Trader stalls 
			- Awards ceremony 
			- And many, many more . . .

		How long : 8 sessions, starting friday evening.

	So tell all your friends, and write to me for anything else you
	wish to know, or would like to say. Organisers for more events
	can also contact me. Thank-you.

			      ACE
                  s903609@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
	        " How deep is the ocean ? " Eric
" No Silicon Heaven ? But where would all the calculators go ? " - Kryton
-- 
			      ACE
                  s903609@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
	        " How deep is the ocean ? " Eric
" No Silicon Heaven ? But where would all the calculators go ? " - Kryton
Newsgroups: aus.games.roleplay
From: mdonalds@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Michael Donaldson)
Subject: Lisa Chevallier....
Summary: Who is she?
Keywords: Perpetual Pest
Organization: Monash University, Caulfield Campus
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 07:56:32 GMT

Dear Lisa,

I am glad that you decided to read this notice.  I am writing to you
to let you know that the weapon that you ordered at Conquest has been
completed by our new weaponsmith.

I have see the weapon and it is fantastic!  For twenty dollars you have
definitely got a bargin.

However, Shadow League has decided to refund you money, due to any
inconvenience caused.

Please send me your e-mail address, postal address, etc. so we can
somehow get the weapon to you.  Otherwise I would be glad to buy it
myself.

Thanks,
Michael Donaldson.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
My thoughts are mine and in no way represent that of 'Shadow League'.
I am just a messager for them and but a pawn in the game of life!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
P.S.  Lisa I personally think from reading notices that you post in
      reply to other notices that you are either a complete bitch, a
      pest, an idiot, or someone who has too much time.  Anyhow, you
      have wasted too much of y time so....


...Piss off.
From: phil@adam.adelaide.edu.au (Phil Kernick)
Newsgroups: aus.games.roleplay,rec.games.frp.marketplace
Subject: AD&D Modules for sale or swap
Date: 16 Sep 92 03:06:39 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: University of Adelaide, South Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: adam.adelaide.edu.au

I have the following AD&D modules for sale or swap:

I4    Oasis of the White Palm          $6    (9053)
S2    White Plume Mountain             $5    (9027)
S4    The Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth    $8    (9061)


They are all in excellent condition, and I would be willing to swap them for
other AD&D stuff that I don't have.



Thanks,
Phil.

-- 
   _-_|\    Phil Kernick                        "Sleep all day,
  /     \   University of Adelaide               Party all night,
  \_.-*_/   E-Mail: phil@adam.adelaide.edu.au    It's fun to be a
       v    Phone:  +61 8 228 5914               Vampire!"
From: rjm@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.games
Subject: Re: Video games
Date: 11 Sep 92 00:30:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:1992Aug22.031832.2926@cam.compse:555013145:peg:1012200009:000:504
Nf-From: peg.pegasus.oz.au!rjm    Sep 10 19:30:00 1992


Personally I would have to reccomend the Mega Drive. It has the best graphics and the 
the best games and online help. You can pick it up for $250.00 in Kmart
with the two extra free games that they've been advertising for the last couple of 
of weeks.
The Super Nintento is also supposed to be good, but it isn't as established with t
the games or suppliers as the Mega Drive.
The Super Nintendo is also mech more expensive, at the moment.
See Ya,
NATHAN MORSILLO
Ph:(03) 354-7424 AUSTRALIA
E-M
From: u1056905@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.wanted
Subject: CD player wanted
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:21:54 +1000
Followup-To: aus.followup
Distribution: aus
Organization: University of New South Wales

My old CD player died, and therefore, I would like to buy a 'new' one.

I am willing to spend up to A$300. Would prefer known brands such as Sony
pioneer, etc...

Any good places around Sydney  for burgains would also  be appreciated if
you are in the  'know'.

Well, I think that should do. Please mail me on the above address...  but
if you prefer, you can post.

Thanks. Assi.

Newsgroups: aus.wanted
From: craw@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Sebastian Filzek)
Subject: Wanted:  EGA Card
Summary: Wanted:    EGA Card
Keywords: ega
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Distribution: vic
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 23:15:53 GMT


Well, the subject line pretty much says it all, I'm looking for an
EGA Card (cheap, of course...)

Nothing fancy, just something to drive a boring old EGA monitor.

Well, if you happen to have such a beast lurking around, then please
post me:


SAB   
92


Sebastian Filzek     
                   rda143c@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au
                   craw@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au

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