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From: evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Doug Evans - UCS Network Systems)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Bills release Leonard Smith
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:04:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Excerpts from today's (Friday) Buffalo News:


                      SMITH SAYS HE'LL SUE OVER HIS RELEASE


	FREDONIA - Leonard Smith said he intends to take legal action against
the Buffalo Bills for causing a debilitating infection in his left knee and
for releasing him before he was healthy enough to pursue an opportunity with
another NFL team.

	Until he was waived Thursday, Smith and club officials had maintained
that the nature of the infection and how it was contracted were unknown. But
shortly after his release, SMith told the Buffalo News the knee had been 
improperly cleansed before Bills physician Dr. Richard Weiss gave him a 
cortisone injection 45 minutes before the Bills' AFC title clash, and that
"bacteria got on the needle at the time I got the shot."

[...]

	"Legal action will take place as soon as possible," he said. "My agent,
Craig LaMaster (of St. Louis), is handling that right now. I just spoke with
him, and he's already spoken with a league lawyer and my personal lawyer. That
part of it will take care of it itself.

	"Hopefully, it will be resolved in an action where it won't get ugly."

[...]

==============================================================================

Don't you just hate it when NFL teams do this to their stars? I'm on Leonard's
side. I just can't understand why the Bills dump people like Fred Smerlas and
Leonard Smith in such an ignominious way. You would think that the Bills, and
for that matter all NFL clubs, would show a certain amount of loyalty to 
players that have contributed consistently for them.

It reminds of the Mark Bavaro situation in NY.

Stay tuned.

Doug

                                    |                              Doug Evans
                                    | State University of New York at Buffalo
                                    |             evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
From: eebonar@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu (Dave Bonar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Oilers -- training camp report II
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:25:28 GMT
Reply-To: eebonar@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu
Organization: News and Views from LSU
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In article <1992Jul23.132753.19315@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>, august@hlpdsk.jsc.nasa.gov (Ray August) writes...
> 
>Oiler starter holdouts/negotiations include:  
> 
>   Chris Dishman ---- asking for 1M, currently making 350k, made pro-
>                      bowl last year.
>   Sean Jones ------- currently retired, but he is almost in the same
>                      situation as Moon; nevertheless I hope they come
>                      to an agreement, I think he is a key piece.
>   Richard Johnson -- tring to remove the injury waiver to secure his
>                      salary of 600k, but I also think he is trying to 
>                      beef up his salary also. (at camp)
>   Bo Orlando ------- can't blame this guy; he had a solid season while
>                      making a basement salary.
>   William Fuller --- also at camp, Fuller is tired of eating TV dinners
>                      and popcorn; just wants more money.
>   Mike Munchack ---- at camp, he is still negotiating his contract.
>                      Without him and Matthews there would be no
>                      run-and-shoot.
>   Curtis Duncan ---- with Drew Hill and Tony Jones gone his averages
>                      will increase, so he is also negotiating.
> 
>For a team that has a realistic shot at the Super Bowl, Houston needs
>to settle this shit and start reward players the money they are worth. 

	Are they worth that much?  I don't want to start the big war
over again but I do question huge raises for some of these guys.  
Dishman is a case in point.  Jumping from 350K to 1M is a big jump.
What do other comprable (good but not proven to be great) CB's make?
He made the Pro-Bowl but I haven't heard anything to make me feel he
is great.  In previous years he has been average with a tendency to draw
penalties.

	Similarly, Fuller had a great year but hasn't shown that he will
stay great.  I don't know what he is demanding, 750K on a one year deal
seems about right.  Then, if he shows he is going to be a premier player
for a couple of years you can give him his million but if he shows that
last year was his career year and reverts to average you can pay him
like an average player.

Dave
__________
Dave Bonar
eebonar@lsuvax.sncc.lsu.edu
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From: chf0@newshost.gte.com (Curtis Fennell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Buffalo Bills
Date: 31 Jul 92 13:52:24 GMT
Reply-To: chf0@gte.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham, MA

In article <Bs7vGA.LIp@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v077mdph@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (John of Gaunt) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul29.143326.1340@makesys.com>, john@makesys.com (John Turman) 
|> writes...
|> >3. Miami drafted 2 impact players in the first round, pending
|> >   contract signings  
|> >   these 2 will definitely help upgrade this unit, along with the 3rd round
|> >   pick Larry Webster who is impressing coaches with his ability look for a
|> >   much improved Miami defense.
|> 
|> I doubt those players will be of significant impact this season.

There are actually several reasons to be optimistic about the Dolphins
defense this year:

	1. I expect that Vincent will be an impact player from the
	first day he starts,  if only because Miami lacked any decent
	cornerbacks last year.  Even if he is only "pretty good", he
	will significantly improve the defense.  Not to mention his
	kick return ability.

	2. I have more doubts that Coleman will be an impact player at
	first, because it's harder to come in as a linebacker and make
	an immediate impact.  But, except for Jeff Cross, it's been a
	long time since Miami has had a decent outside pass rush, so
	Coleman should make at least SOME impact this year. (if they
	can get him in camp!!!)  
	
	3. Offerdahl and Grimsley are both 100% back from their
	injuries. It's too soon to tell how rusty they will be 
	(especially Grimsley), but they should both improve the inside
	run defense.

	4. "Mean" Joe Greene is coaching the defensive line this year.
	This has been the worst aspect of Miami's defense, but
	hopefully Greene can put some fire into this bunch.  He
	certainly knows what it means to win.

	5. The Dolphins also have a large pool of healthy talent to
	shore up the defensive line.  With the rookies and the guys
	who were injured last year (Oglesby, Lee) back, the defensive 
	line should be a lot better.

And to top it all off, both Denver and Washington gave clinics on how
to stop the Bills' offense at the end of last year.  The Dolphins will
learn a lot from this (as will all the other AFC East teams) this
year.  

Buffalo will still be a good team, but I think they are going to have
a lot more competition this year than they have in the past.

-- 
Curt "I always pick the Dolphins - even against Buffalo!"  Fennell
			DOLFAN in New England.             
'72 Dolphins - The perfect team in the perfect season - 17-0
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From: zarda@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dr. Strangelove)
Subject: Re: Ty Detmer
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:46:44 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.182215.28952@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.204334.17712@b30.ingr.com>, garth@b30.ingr.com (Garth Smith) writes...
>
>>Can anybody give me the status of Detmer? Did he survive rookie camp
>>without getting the "ax" from the Packers?
>
>I kinda doubt that any team has cut any rookies yet.  I don't remember 
>hearing the coaching staff saying anything about Detmer yet.  I'd say 
>that's a bad sign.
>
>JGH

He just signed. So now start watching...

Ken

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Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:33:13 -0400 
From: Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: More Eagles Camp news...

>
I cant stress enough how good Pumpy Tudors was. His hang time was
a little short for those distances (4.5 or so) but he was nailing
60 yarder after 60 yarder... Feagles had one punt longer than 50
all yesterday...
>

Well, strength of leg is *not* everything in a good punter. There is
also hang time (which you mention is not so good), accuracy/ability to
"angle" the kick, running and tackling ability (often a *necessity*),
ability to adjust the amount of "leg" put into a kick for length of
field left to kick into...

If Tudors is good at all those things, *then* Feagles might be out of a
job.....

--Vernon.
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From: john@porta.b24a.ingr.com (John Nolin)
Subject: Neal "The Real Meal" Anderson info wanted
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 12:11:47 GMT

What's the scoop on Anderson this year?  I heard that he had some family
problems last year and the combination of that and his injury's kept him
from having an up to par (gasp! argh! a golf term!) year last year?

-John Nolin-
Stranded in Hunt$Vega$, AL with little or no sports news.
Geaux Saints!!!!
From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: What about the 'Skins?
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:00:12 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

In article <b72mb1zr@csv.warwick.ac.uk>, csuah@warwick.ac.uk (~WISP at CU~) writes:
>All you 'Skins fans out there:  How about some news? Has the summer camp
>started? Who's looking good, who's looking bad? Help!

Camp has started, but Rypien is still holding out.

Local news showed Gary Clark slip and fall while running a pattern.  He was
very upset with himself.

The press seemed surprised that the players picked up on plan B would show
up at camp.

There's a newsgroup on my site (linus.mitre.org, in MA) called dc.redskins. 
I don't know how widespread the dc heirarchy is.

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my corrected PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 49ers News????
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:33:45 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <cd.i03Gb44AC00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> ronnie@uts.amdahl.com (Ronnie Townsend) writes:
>Robert, not to disagree but there is nothing wrong with Neon-Deion's attitude. 
>His disposition is perfect for a cornerback. He plays all out, covers his man,
>makes the plays for his team, gets the crowd into it with his antics. He, 

I completely agree, people love to rag on Deion but the fact is he'a a 
great player and he backs up his talk. He says his talk psyches himself
up, and thats all its for, it seems to work.

As for Dana Hall being humble, he was quoted in the SJ Mercury when asked
about being on the first string so early maybe being a surprise. "No I
belong there, with my athletic ability I can play in this league no
question, its just a matter of learning the system and the plays" . 
SOunds pretty confident to me.





Russ Smith
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From: rsmith@seq.uncwil.edu (Ross Smith)
Subject: More Eagles Camp news...
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:48:33 GMT

    Some things I missed yesterday...

Jesse Campbell (he of IR all of last year), safety, looked really 
impressive. 'Dirty' Waters could be pushed for his starting spot.

William Thomas, LB was in the QBs face on every receiveing drill,
making sure no one thinks last year was a fluke. Hes a little under-
sized but his natural ability seems to make up for it..

Despite what I said yesterday, both the morning paper and Joe Dakes
are saying Jenkins will be the first of the DBs to sign. Also, the
Eagles signed former Rams DB Bobby Humphrey (not the Denver/Miami RB).
Plus little (5-7, 162 lbs) Mark McMillian is looking good out there
as a defensive back. Maybe he cant take people down by himself, but
he sure as hell can stick to his man and stay between the receiver and
ball.

I cant stress enough how good Pumpy Tudors was. His hang time was
a little short for those distances (4.5 or so) but he was nailing
60 yarder after 60 yarder... Feagles had one punt longer than 50
all yesterday...

Also, interestingly enough, the field goal unit spent several plays
working on a fake field goal where the holder pitched to Mike Pitts
as he left his blocker and ran around the other side of the line...

The reciever situation is muddled at best. Williams, Barnett and Snyder
will be keepers. William Bouyer looked absolutely pathetic... sloppy
routes, bad hands, and looked like he was only going about 60%, look
for him to be the first WR to get cut, or as soon as Williams signs he
will be gone anyway. Of the Dixon boys (Floyd and Titus) Titus looked
better even though he is the smaller receiver. Kenny Jackson wont be
back unless Cunningham really whines about keeping him. Roy Green was
okay and Bill Hess, bless him, tried his heart out again, and looked
good, but probably wont make the final cut... he never does...

Oh well, thats enough for now...

-- 
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From: v077mdph@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (John of Gaunt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Bills' draft picks signed!
Date: 23 Jul 92 22:19:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	It was recently reported in the Buffalo News that all Bills' draft picks
have been signed.  There are seven unsigned veterans.  Training camp started
today without any of these seven.  I don't remember who all seven were, but the
important ones were Cornelius Bennett and Kirby Jackson.  Most of the others
saw little or no playing time last year.  More news will be posted as I hear it!

Snoopy
From: riff@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher P. Riff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: William Perry in shape?!?!
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:02:22 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

I hear that Howard Sudberry, a Chicago sportscaster with CBS, 
interviewed William Perry yesterday.  Two interesting items came
out of that interview.
1. Perry does not want to be traded.  Apparently the trade demands
   are solely the work of Perry's agent.  (However, Perry does
   insist on a $900,000 contract...)
2. Howard Sudberry claims that Perry looked to be in the best 
   shape he had EVER seen him in (which means in even better
   shape than his 308lb rookie year).

Who knows, maybe the Fridge could be back and contributing with
the Bears afterall.

----------------
Chris Riff
riff@dartmouth.edu
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From: Gilles.Carmel@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Gilles Carmel)
Subject: 1991 NFL final standing
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:26:09 GMT

Hi

Can someone e-mail me the final standings for the 1991 NFL season.  This
would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks


Gilles Carmel






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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Buffalo Bills
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:23:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

In article <1992Jul27.030033.8073@math.ucla.edu> rfedkiw@sepulveda.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw) writes:
> 
>By the way I was in Las Vegas a few weeks ago
>and the odds on buffalo to win the AFC title were 2 to 1.
>This means Vegas gives them a 33% chance, but I gave them 50%.
>(sounds reasonable)

Actually it doesn't mean that at all.  What it means is that the 
odds-maker for whatever casino you got this from believes that the 
casino will make money if they give 2-1 odds on Buffalo to win the AFC 
title.  More than anything else, this is probably based on the way 
people are betting.

JGH
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From: cdaigle@bnr.ca (Christopher Daigle)
Subject: Status of Players Suit
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:37:36 GMT

What is the latest info on the player's court case in Minn?

GEAUX SAINTS!!!
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From: davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood)
Subject: Re: Favorite Football Teams Survey
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:12:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.235251.15525@sequent.com> phantom@sequent.com (Bert Pelca) writes:
>>From: davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood)
>>
>>Is this object-tossing somthing Brown fans are generally proud of, or is
>>it one of those "few (not too few, though) bad sheep" deals?
>
>Best be careful here if you are a Bronco fan... I clearly
>remember back in the late sixties and early seventies (left
>Boulder in '71)..  more than a few 'currz' bottles come flying
>out of the stands at Milehigh..  especially frequent when the
>Raiders and Chiefs were in town..
>

Hey, I'm safe.  I was not existent in the 60's.
-- 

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From: st1ge@Rosie.UH.EDU (Edward Hui)
Subject: Re: '49ers News
Reply-To: st1ge@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 06:53:00 GMT

In article <29710075@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM>, garyr@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Gary Rosen) writes:
>According to the S. F. Chronicle today (Mon. 7-20), the 49ers top two
>draft picks DB Dana Hall and RB Amp Lee have agreed to contract terms
>and will be reporting to camp soon.  Jerry Rice and some other veterans
>are still holding out.
>
>- Gary Rosen

      The 49ers also signed their 9th round pick, Darian Hagan, the former
QB of Colorado.  Are they going to use him as a WR/KR?  Who else is
holding out?  Any information is appreciated.

Edward Hui
From: tech@cs.ucf.edu (Tony Travaglini)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Buffalo Bills
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:58:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando

In article <1992Jul29.143326.1340@makesys.com> john@makesys.com (John Turman) writes:
>
>From what I have seen I think the pendulum is starting to swing away from
>Buffalo and moving towards the Dolphins and Jets. Where did I come up with
>this opinion?
>
>1. Buffalo's defense has started to slow down and get weaker over the last
>   2 years. Plus Bruce Smith's knee is a major area of concern, and with the
>   loss of one of their better LB's to plan B I don't see any reason why this
>   slide will not continue.
>2. Buffalo didn't do anything to help the defense in the draft or plan B.
>3. Miami drafted 2 impact players in the first round, pending contract signings
>   these 2 will definitely help upgrade this unit, along with the 3rd round
>   pick Larry Webster who is impressing coaches with his ability look for a
>   much improved Miami defense.
>4. The only thing keeping Miami from getting to the playoffs last year was a
>   porous defense, their offense has never been a question mark since the
>   arrival of Dan Marino 10 years ago. And they have shored up an ageing
>   receiver corps with the drafting of speed burner Lee miles and plan B
>   acquisition Robert Clark from Detroit. The other plus here is the addition
>   of Bobby Humphry which should improve the shaky ground game.
>5. The Jets have one of the youngest teams in the AFC with a promising young
>   quarterback in Browning Nagle. These guys are going to gel sometime soon
>   and when they do I fear the Dolphins and the rest of the AFC east will
>   suffer as a result.
>
>Just some random ranting by a long time (1966) Dolphins and AFC east fan.
>
>John
>-- 
>The opinions expressed here are sole property of the author and are not
>the opinions of Make Systems or any other entity. What a shame.
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>John "Dolphinatic" Turman

John, John, John.... Coherence? Civility? A well put together and
thought out posting? I am embarrassed. I was sort of looking to you to
be the replacement for the Mad Dolfan that Todd mentioned earlier. To
step into these big shoes (he got them at Circus World you know) you
need to perfect your BWWWWWAAAAAHHHHAAAAAAA's and SHOUTING AT THE TOP
OF YOUR KEYBOARD. Making fun of Jimbo's panties and things of this
nature. Now shape up my man. We're counting on you to be the Ying to
TEG's Yank.....  The Gunga to buffalos Din. The cheese to Dougs
whine... You can do it. Just try!

Tony (go new england) Travaglini
tech@cs.ucf.edu
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From: fmkeith@cbnews.cb.att.com (francis.keithline)
Subject: ONE FOR THE THUMB???
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:57:32 GMT
Keywords: Steelers

Are there any DIEHARD Steeler fans out there who think the Steelers can win
a Superbowl in the next couple of years??  I live in the area of NYC and I am
sick of hearing how much tradition The New York Football "giants" think they
have.  All TRUE Pro Football fans know where the real tradition is,
PITTSBURGH. Four Super Bowl Rings, only two teams can claim that accomplishment,
but how many coaches can???  That's right ONE, CHUCK!!!!!!  Who should be the 
starting QB, Bubby or Neil???  Any talk of or about the Steelers I am looking
for.  Please post some Steeler news of mail it to me.  GO STEELERS!!!!!!


Frank
fmk@llssak.attmail.com
From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Saints News (was Re: Reuben Mayes)
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:20:19 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Chevron

>|> 
>|> I wish I could help.  I'm waiting for a response to the earlier request
>|> for Saints training camp info!  The Houston papers cover nothing but the
>|> Earlers.  
>|> 

So I'll do my own homework.  The Houston Chronicle reported that Rickey
Jackson has ended his holdout and is in camp.  He hurt his hand in
one-on-one drills yesterday(or Sunday) but returned before practice
ended.  Dalton Hilliard signed a new contract (no details) and is in
camp -- also true for the Saints' 3rd pick, Leggett? (going on memory
here).

I know its pathetic reporting, but its SOMETHING.

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