HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bartels@sweetepa.jsc.nasa.gov (Jeff Bartels)
Subject: Re: How do I get rid of these Borland C++ warnings?
Organization: /u51/Users/bartels/.organization
Date: 13 Nov 92 12:58:31

>>>>> In article <BxGB9I.AE0@tridom.com>, sat@nut.tridom.com (Stephen Thomas) writes:
 Stephen> Nntp-Posting-Host: nut.eng.tridom.com

 Stephen> In order to use STRICT you have to recompile the OWL libraries
 Stephen> with STRICT defined (and the class libraries I think?). If you
 Stephen> installed the source, that isn't a big problem, since you'll
 Stephen> have project files already set up. (I was a little worried
 Stephen> about doing this, but it really did go smoothly and quickly.)

 Stephen> ---

 Stephen> Stephen Thomas   AT&T Tridom   (404-514-3522)
 Stephen> email: sat@eng.tridom.com, attmail!tridom!sat

Sorry! This is not the problem. I began compiling and writing programs
with the STRICT option and the OWL stuff that came out of the box -
no recompilation necessary.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: jim@edscom.demon.co.uk (Jim Thomas)
Subject: Re: How do you get RC prepass output ?
X-Disclaimer: #include <std/witty/disclaimer.h>
Reply-To: Jim Thomas <jthomas@edscom.demon.co.uk>
Organization: EDS-Scicon, Milton Keynes, UK
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:19:22 GMT

Hi Robert.Heath,

In newsgroup comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools you wrote:

>> Does anyone know how to get output from the resource compiler's
>> prepass phase ?  I'd like to see the data after all the include's and
>> rcinclude's have been evaluated.  It would be useful for debugging.

I just used the Microsoft C 7.0 precompiler on one of my .rc files as
follows:

	cl /P abcd.rc

and this prouced a precompiled version abcd.i with all the defines
expanded etc. I don't know if this always works for all RC statements
but my little test seemed fine.

--
Jim Thomas
From: brenth@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Brent Hills)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Turbo Debugger woes
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 13:49:33 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

I am having problems using Turbo Debugger for Windows version 2.51
with Windows 3.1.  I am using the the new WINDEBUG.DLL dated 04-06-92
and my program is compiled under Borland C++ 2.0 with the small
memory model.
 
Enough background...  If I attempt to step through my program
or set break points the debugger reports:

              Exception 13, Error code 0
However, if I just run my program within the debugger all works
fine and no errors are reported.  When I am stepping through
the program (while in the CPU view) the Exception error is generated
after each of the call instructions.

Is this truly my error or a problem with the debugger?  In either
case is there a fix available or can you direct me to the area in
my code I should scrutinize.

 

 

Brent Hills              brenth@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: ezachris@cochiti.ucs.indiana.edu
Subject: Re: Opinions of ProtoGen
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:58:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.151931.18791@decuac.dec.com> baker@westsd.dco.dec.com  
(Art Baker) writes:
>  I'd really appreciate it if we could get back to the subject of my
> original post: What is your opinion of ProtoGen as a tool ?  Does it  
work
> properly ?  Are the code-generators customizable (are they driven by a 
> macro-language, for example) ?  What are its best/worst attributes ?
> Does it support MDI windows ?  
> 
>  Thanks in advance for any info you might provide.
> 
> -- 
> 	***********************************************************
> 	* Art Baker			| Joy and fierceness...	  *
> 	* baker@westsd.dco.dec.com	|  			  *
> 	***********************************************************

Yeah, let's hear it guys: buy or no buy?

Espen Zachrisen
Indiana University
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: korsmana@bmers160.bnr.ca (Anthony Korsman)
Subject: Re: Borland Paradox Engine V3.0, AF?
Reply-To: korsmana@bmers160.bnr.ca (Anthony Korsman)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 16:06:18 GMT

The engine comes with a DLL so it is ment to be used with Windows. I decided
not to use it because it was paradox.  The dBase format is much more flexible
with its indexes.  

I'm using Codebase 4.5 write now(Codebase 5.0 is on order) to access dBase files.
It comes with the source so you can recompile it if desired.  It can also
access Fox and Clipper formats.  And more importantly it comes with a C++ 
interface as well as a C interface.

Cheers
Anthony
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From: alenzini@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Andrew Lenzini)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Q+E DLL in VB?
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:58:40 GMT
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server




Hi,

I'm trying to use a database in a VB application.  I'm currently using DDE to
communicate with Q+E.  This is not good.  I'd rather use the DLL that is part
of Q+E (QEDBF.DLL).  Unfortunately, I have no idea what the calling syntax is.
Does anyone have the answer?

P.S.  This is for prototyping purposes only.  If and when it comes time to do
the real application, I plan to purchase the Q+E VB software package.

P.P.S.  Q+E and the associated DLL come as part of Excel.

Thanks in advance,

Andy

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: mike@ravel.udel.edu (Michael James Porter)
Subject: Borland Paradox Engine V3.0, AF?
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:44:04 GMT

Has anyone seen or used the new Paradox Engine?  How does the
application framework seem?  Is it worth the $100?

(As a registered owner of something (Paradox, BC++?), I received
an offer to purchase the new engine for $99, and the engine along
with the AF for $199.  Something called Crystal Reports is 
also thrown in)

Is it possible to write a Windows 3.1 program that makes use of the
engine?  Paradox 3.5 has a 'Like' operator that seems to do
inexact name searching on a table when doing queries. Is this
also available in the engine?

Mike
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools,comp.windows.ms.programmer,comp.graphics
From: joey@netcom.com (Joseph P. Jarosz)
Subject: Re: GUI design / planning methods.
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 04:37:11 GMT

I have to agree with the messages that preceeded this one (not included due
to their size) that many people have gone GUI crazy. I myself am a User
Interface designer & implementor. Notice how I used UI not GUI, I'll admit
many of the applications I have created do have a graphical UI but they
also have a proceedural interface as well.

What most people who are charged with delivering a user interface for an
appliation forget is that they are supposed to make the application easier
for everyone to use, not just novices. This does not mean that GUI's are
for novices only. Quite the contrary, I have designed several applications
that don't even begin to take advantage of a GUI until the user has become
an expert with the system.

GUI's are good thing, they are getting a bum wrap due to the many poor
attempts out there...

thanx,
joey@netcom.com
From: mills@athena.lkg.dec.com (George Mills)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Re: Borland C++ INFO NEEDED!!!
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:40:53 GMT


Borlands line of compilers are confusing !!!

OWL (Object windows library, very powerful).
TurboVision (Windows "like" API for having a window like application under DOS)
IDE-W (Integrated development environment under windows)
IDE-D (Integrated development environment under DOS)
TD (Debuger for DOS under DOS)
TDW (debugger for Windows under DOS [not a typo, yes DOS])
DOCS and DOCS
Command line compilers.
Windows Help Compiler.
DOS help compiler (Turbo Vision).
Workshop (Dialog Box editor/Icon Editor etc.)

Borland C++ (for windows) Has ALL this and more. As best I can tell
"Application frameworks" means EVERYTHING. Including all DOCs.
All the other compilers are basically subsets (repackaging).
$150.00-$400.00 (I get confused on this wide range, perhaps it's sometimes
the product below).

Borland C++ (for DOS) I'm not sure if this animal exists. If it does
it probably includes Turbo Vision.

Turbo C++ for dos is a C++ compiler for dos
  I don't believe Turbo-Vision is included here but can be purchased
  seperately. $60.00 +/-
Turbo C++ for windows is a C++ compiler for Windows
  Everything listed above minus all the DOS stuff (NO turbo vision,
  no command line compiling (IDE only). You cannot do anything in DOS
  with this (compile in nor compiler for). Less DOCs are supplied
  and they remove some flexibility in compiler optimizations.
  The DOCs that are missing I believe are online. $85.00
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: jar@inel.gov (Jeffry A Rich)
Subject: BC++ Ver 3.1 for sale
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Laboratory, Idaho Falls, Idaho
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 17:38:49 GMT

Borland C++ Version 3.1 for Windows/DOS for sale.

Package includes:
   All original disks
   Full set of manuals
   You even get the original box!!

This complete package is in PRISTEEN condition!

Selling for $79.00 plus shipping costs

E-Mail me to discuss arrangements

JR Rich (jar@inel.gov)
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privately owned rights.  No specific reference constitutes or implies
endorsement, recommendation, or favoring by the United States
Government or the Idaho National Engineering Laboratory.  The views and
opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of the
United States Government or the Idaho National Engineering Laboratory,
and shall not be used for advertising or product endorsement purposes.
From: Peter.Garner@f0.n86.z86.toadnet.org (Peter Garner)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Re: BC++ far* default in
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 16:26:19 cdt
Organization: FidoNet node 86:86/0 - Zone Toad, St Louis MO

 PP> In your data declarations, if you do not specifically specify PP>
keyword far, then the declaration is left in the default data


Aha, so you think that what that guy wanted was a way to get his medium

model data out of DGROUP.  I hvae run into that problem, even in the
large model.  MSC has a compiler line switch to automatically move all
string constants out of DGROUP, if this is compiled:

double lfAngle;	// 8 bytes taken up in DGROUP
char far caPrompt[8];	// 8 bytes stored in a far segment NOT
		// in DGROUP

Unfortunately, I know of know way to accomplish this with BC++.  In
fact, I participated in the writing of a large model C++ multimedia GUI

authoring package for Chrysler last year, and we never did figure out
how
to DEFAULT data out of DGROUP.  As you said, you can EXPLICITLY declare

the data as far, but there seems to be no way to make that a default.
Also in the medium model all your medium model library fcns will crash
when they attempt access data in another segment witha near pointer!
Now
that you have pointed out what this guy really wants (he DID ask a very

good question) I am most interested in the answer.

Thank you

Peter


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From: anders@ipcsun1.his.se (Anders Eklund)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Customized controls
Date: 13 Nov 92 13:11:06 GMT
Distribution: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Organization: University of Skoevde, Skoevde


Hi there!

  I have a product called ProtoView and I also use Borland C++ 3.1 & AF.
I want to take advantage of both ViewPaint and Resource Workshop. Is it
possible to get access to all ProtoViews controls in Workshop or all
Borland controls in ViewPaint. If that is the case, how?

Anders
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From: galenr@hpgrla.gr.hp.com (Galen Raben)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:26:27 GMT
Subject: Re: Visual Basic 2.0 Features
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Greeley, CO
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools

In comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools, yfwu@Uz.nthu.edu.tw (EE U780935) writes:

>    This is a e-mail from Mr. Mark  which was from Mr. Joe in Microstft.
>    Thanks for their help!!!!
>								Y.F. Wu

>Pricing and Availability
>    The Standard Edition of  Microsoft Visual Basic is available
>now for the suggested retail price of $199.  Upgrades for Visual
>Basic 1.0 & Toolkit owners is $79.  The Professional Edition of
>Visual Basic is available for the suggested retail price of $495.
>Upgrades from Standard Edition 1.0 and 2.0 is $199 and for
>Professional Toolkit owners it is $99.

ARRRGGHHHH!!!  I already ordered the Standard Edition at $79...
Now I find out that the Pro Edition is available to me at $99 as I have
the ProToolKit....  Why wasn't this in my upgrade notice??? !

I would have been glad to order VB 2.0 Pro had I known I could get it for $99!
Sheesh...
- Galen -
galenr@hpgrla.gr.hp.com

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: jcmorris@mwunix.mitre.org (Joe Morris)
Subject: Problems with disks from "Windows 3.1 Secrets"
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 17:28:07 GMT

I recently picked up a copy of Brian Livingston's book "Windows 3.1 Secrets"
and yesterday tried to load some of the goodies from the enclosed disks.
Most of them loaded cleanly, but the process wasn't all sweetness and light.

Problem #1: the installer has problems.  Parts of the scroll boxes are cut
off by the slider bar; this may be partly because I'm using an EGA (at least
until the company delivers the new machine I've ordered).  In perhaps a 
half dozen invocations the "ADD ALL" button was available only once (and
not on the first try); on all other attempts it was dimmed.

Problem #2: the installer creates a control file for its own use (WWW-PROD.INI)
which serves no possible function I can see.

Problem #3: Attempting to load the member W_BAT the installer calls for 
disk #2, but fails to accept that disk when it is inserted in the drive.
Your only option is to cancel the installation process.

Problem #4 (and easily the worst): Attempting to load any of four specific
applications from the disk forces a reboot.  While trying to load any of
them (HUNTER, WINEDIT, WINUNARC, XCLOCK) you get the error dialog box:

   ERROR DURING CODE EXPANSION

with an "OK" button, but when you click on the button the error message
box just gets redisplayed.  Since the main window has no control menu
(another design error)  there's nothing you can do to get out; even
the much-advertised CTRL-ALT-DEL trap in Windows 3.1 doesn't help.  The
only solution is to reboot the system.

Joe Morris / MITRE
From: twbrown@PE-Nelson.COM (Tom W. Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Re: What is the best way to get HINSTANCE of a DLL?
Date: 10 Nov 92 23:06:12 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
Distribution: usa
Organization: PE-Nelson

In article <1992Nov9.070214.3613@leland.Stanford.EDU>, kmh@leland.Stanford.EDU (khanhmy hoang) writes:
|> 
|> 	I am in an DLL and need to do a LoadString from the DLL's stringtable
|> 	and wonder what is the nicest way to get the HINSTANCE of the DLL to
|> 	use as LoadString's first argument.

The DLL is given its module handle (an HINSTANCE) as a parameter to LibMain.
You should save this value in the data segment of the library to use for
this purpose.

Methods that rely on a module handle being related in some way to DS are
fraught with peril and are probably doomed when you port to NT.

NOTE: followups directed to comp.os.mw-windows.programmer.misc


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From: claude.hunter@nitelog.com (Claude Hunter) 
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Writing True Type Fonts
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:41:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Nitelog BBS - Monterey, CA - 408-655-1096
Reply-To: claude.hunter@nitelog.com (Claude Hunter) 

RL>        I am not sure if this is a FAQ but I am new to this group, I need
RL>to write some fonts (with Polish characters in them), does anyone know how
RL>to generate true type fonts, or of existance of Polish true type fonts I
RL>could get from somewhere? Any help will be grately appreciated,

FontMonger will allow you to create TrueType fonts.  I bought the
package but after reading the documentation I realized that one limit-
tion of the program, no support for kerning, makes it unusable to
me.  The fonts I needed to develope (Korean) requires heavy kerning.
I would be willing to sell the package if you are interested.  It is
unopened (disks still sealed in licence pack) and has a registration
card.  I'll let it go for $110.00 which includes COD shipping.

Claude
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From: groening@sdsc.edu (Chris Groening)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Icon image format
Date: 6 Nov 1992 22:28:08 GMT
Organization: San Diego Supercomputer Center @UCSD.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: groening@sdsc.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sluggo.sdsc.edu
Keywords: ICON

I'm writing an image file translation program.
i'm including icon format.

I received this file that can be displayed by window3.1.
It is a bunch of flags icons.

My question is according to the Programmers Reference volume 4
the first word in the file is reserved and should be set to
zero the next word should be set to one, etc.  The file
I have is not like this at all though.  What gives?

thanks in advanceIn article Ez@ucunix.san.uc.edu, govindg@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Girish Govind) writes:
>Hello netters!
>I have a question for experienced ms-windows programmers out there...
>What are good tools to have when developing a graphics application for 
>windows using Borland C++ 3.1 and Application Frameworks?
>
>Would Windowmaker or zAPP be a good thing to have? They seem to claim that it
>makes designing the interface a lot easier than using the Application
>Frameworks from Borland.
>
>Any opinions on these two software? Or would you recommend some other
>software for a person just starting out?
>
>Please let me know at govindg@ucunix.san.uc.edu
>
>Thank you very much
>
>-- Girish Govind




Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: jasons@atlastele.com (Jason Smith)
Subject: Re: Opinions of ProtoGen
Organization: Atlas Telecom Inc.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:18:16 GMT

In article <dpn2.45.720825573@po.CWRU.Edu> dpn2@po.CWRU.Edu (Damien P. Neil) writes:
>In article <1d6mvvINNo46@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ap096@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kevin P. Dahlhausen) writes:
>>Does PG then require the Application Frameworks, or will the basic Borland
>>compler/libraries be sufficient?
>
>It requires OWL. I think this is the reason I got it free with BC++ 3.1...
>without OWL. Makes it _so_ useful to me... :-)
>+-------------+------------------+---------------------------------+
>| Damien Neil | dpn2@po.cwru.edu | Case Western Reserve University |
>+-------------+------------------+---------------------------------+

From the Protogen Manual that came with my BC++3.1:

Page 1, paragraph 1, lines 1-3:

"This document describes how to use ProtoGen for ... generating final
code in C++ and ANSI C, and developing Windows application prototypes."

Page 2, Section entitled "ProtoGen features":
	
	...

	* 	A code generator compatible with ANSI C and Borland's 
		ObjectWindows for C++....

	...


But then again, this was the first time *I* read the manual... :^)


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From: wjk@Phonogenic.COM (Bill Keenan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools,comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: CodeWright - Premia contact information
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:54:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: phngnc.0105015D.ii7ei2
Reply-To: wjk@Phonogenic.COM (Bill Keenan)
Distribution: world
Organization: Phonogenic Systems Corporation
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1

In response to an inquiry about windows based 'vi', I discussed an
editor named CodeWright from Premia Corporation. I did not give the
contact information in that article. As a result, several people sent
me requests for the contact information which follows.

The numbers for Premia are:

V:	503/647-9902
	800/547-9902
F:	503/647-5423
BBS:	503/646-1374

e-mail:	70673.2627@CompuServe.COM

________________________________________________________________________________
Bill Keenan, President          | Voice:      415/365-1083
Phonogenic Systems Corporation  | Fax:        415/365-1083
PO Box 3535                     | Internet:   wjk@Phonogenic.COM
Redwood City CA 94064-3535      | UUCP:       phngnc!wjk or netcom!phngnc!wjk
USA                             | AppleLink:  wjk@Phonogenic.COM@INTERNET#
                                | CompuServe: >INTERNET:wjk@Phonogenic.COM

This country borrows about $4.25 per day per US resident (that is $17/day
for a family of 4) with little hope of paying any of the principal!
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: ahrikenc@snake-1.cae.wisc.edu (Cherif Ahrikencheikh)
Subject: How can I read BIOS ROM from windows? 
Distribution: usa
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:53:22 CST
Originator: ahrikenc@snake-1.cae.wisc.edu


In DOS, I used ptr = MK_FP( seg, off) to get a pointer to the
desired location then printed ptr byte by byte. 

In Windows, I couldn't do it this way.  Please Help.  Thanks

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: further@access.digex.com (further)
Subject: Consultant Available
Organization: MPSI, Limited, Peekskill, NY USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:34:42 GMT

Programming Available

If you know anyone who's looking for a Windows consultant 
(MSC, Borland, C, C++, frameworks) who guarantees customer 
satisfaction, send me some E-Mail.  We take care of those 
who take care of us.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools