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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:00:06 +1000
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From:         Michael Manning <manning@CC.UQ.OZ.AU>
Subject:      Re: Drive Dismount Problem.
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On Wed, 29 Jul 1992, Steven Kriby wrote:

> Ryan Schultz asked about getting Hitachi drives to dismount from a SCSI
 Express
> LAN.  I have no idea if this is related to the problem, Ryan, but MDI only
> certifies SCSI Express for use with Toshiba drives.  Could be a mismatch
 between
> your CD drives and SCSI Express.  Hope not.
>
>
> Steven Kirby
> University of Georgia
> kirby@athena.cs.uga.edu

I have replied directly to Ryan about this problem but thought it might be
interesting to air it more publicly.

We have exactly the same problem with the 3 Texel drives we have connected
to our 8Mb 386/33 server.  The server was specifically mounted in the
reference area and, unfortunately, the staff are becoming used to
remounting the drives.  The server has also stopped twice when the drives
have dismounted.

The problem seems to have become worse when we added our third cdrom.
Removing this cdrom from the drive (the one closest to the server in the
chain) has caused the problem to go away.

The areas we are currently examining as a cause of the problem include:

1. insufficient memory in the server (we are increasing to 16Mb - I know
of users with 32Mb in their server)
2. defective drives
3. defective or poorly fitting cables

I know of a number of users of SCSI Express who have had no problems
whatsoever with using the software and am convinced the problem is in the
hardware somewhere.  But where?

Michael Manning                    phone +61 7 365 6218
Central Library                    fax   +61 7 365 6888
University of Queensland           email manning@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au
St. Lucia, Q 4072
Australia
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Useful summary, Jim ! Thanks.  Hans Groenewegen, Monash Univ. Melbourne.
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From:         SCHULTZ@BLDGHSC.LAN1.UMANITOBA.CA
Subject:      Drive Dismount Problem.
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              BAYOMI@bldghsc.lan1.umanitoba.ca

Please respond to the author, not to the list.  Thanks.

At the University of Manitoba Medical Library we are running SilverPlatter
MEDLINE EXPRESS 1987-1992 on a CD-ROM LAN.  We are experiencing CD-ROM drive
dismount errors which seem to occur at random times on different drives.  The
exact error message is:

1.1.86 Volume "ABCD" dismount due to drive deactivation.

Our file server is an Olivetti CP 486 running Novell NetWare 386 vers. 3.11.
We have 4 daisy-chained Hitachi CDR-1750s CD-ROM readers, hanging off an
Adaptec Driver 1.04f (SCSI Express version 1.1.0).

SilverPlatter tells us that the problem is somewhere in our hardware set-up.
Our Computer Services staff have been unable to resolve this problem.
Any information from sites who have had/do have this problem would be
greatly appreciated.  Please respond directly to the author, not to the
CDROMLAN List.  Thank you.
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| Ryan Schultz                       | Phone: (204) 788-6465                |
| University of Manitoba Libraries   | Fax:   (204) 772-0094                |
| Medical Library                    | E-mail: rschult@ccm.umanitoba.ca     |
| 770 Bannatyne Avenue               | OR rschult@bldghsc.lan1.umanitoba.ca |
| Winnipeg, Manitoba, CANADA R3E 0W3 |                                      |
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:27:36 LCL
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From:         Ira Carver <carver@UTXVM.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Novell/CBIS problem
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>I've just installed a CBIS server on our LAN. We run Netware 3.11, with 2
>ethernets and 2 arcnets plugged into the server, ... [text deleted] ... The
 >CDUSE command fails
>to find the cd server, and times out after about a minute with a DOS 54:
>116 error message.
>
Perhaps helpful: We are using 3.11 with one ethernet card in the Novell
server.   We have the same error message when a client does an abnormal
disconnect from the CBIS server.  That is, a reboot or something similar.
Then, when the client is restarted and CBIS's CDUSE is executed, the CBIS
box thinks the machine is trying to connect a second time.  Result: "DOS
54, 116 error".  So far, the only solution is to restart the CBIS server.
But that is a lousy solution.

Probably not helpful:  We connect our multiple ethernets through Cisco
Routers.  At UT Austin, we don't route IPX on the campus WAN.  So we are
trying IPX Tunneling (IPX packets inside TCP/IP).  Since CBIS can't do
tunneling, the Novell server on the same ethernet as the CBIS server acts
as a gateway.  We are just getting this set up, but it seems to work ok.
Because of all the drivers we have to load on the tunneling clients, we are
having (surprise!) memory problems on the DOS PC's with some of the big CD
access software.  Since these machines have 4 MB RAM, we expect QEMM 386 to
fix that.  But.  Not so far, as some stuff does not want to load high.

We are actively trying to make all of this work properly.

Ira Carver
Manager, Microcomputer Services           Internet:
carver@utxvm.cc.utexas.edu
The General Libraries                     Bitnet:   CARVER@UTXVM.BITNET
The University of Texas at Austin         TXMAIL:   LLIEC
Austin, Texas  78712                      Voice:    (512) 495-4113
                                          FAX:      (512) 495-4296
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From: k2@bl.physik.tu-muenchen.de (Klaus Steinberger)
Subject: Re: Max. SCSI cable length?
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 06:53:43 GMT

"Clyde W. Grotophorst" <WALLYG%fen1.gmu.edu@GMUVAX2.GMU.EDU> writes:

>The manual that came with the NEC CDR-73's I have says 6 meters. The
>shielding of the cable makes a lot of difference as you approach the
>limit...
On my experience, the cable length is much more important than the shielding.
I'm using standard flat cable (no shielding), and make it as short as possible.

With prefabricated round cable, I'm always running into length problems,
as you never get them in the needed length. I had serious trouble to
get prefabricated SCSI cables shorter than 1.5 meter. Even a company
which is active in the standards commitees for SCSI2/SCSI3 did sell me
cables with 3 meter length!

Sincerely,
Klaus Steinberger
--
Klaus Steinberger               Beschleunigerlabor der TU und LMU Muenchen
Phone: (+49 89)3209 4287        Hochschulgelaende
FAX:   (+49 89)3209 4280        D-8046 Garching, Germany
Internet: Klaus.Steinberger@bl.physik.uni-muenchen.de
From: august@next.csc.cuhk.hk (Y. S. Lo)
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Subject: TCP/IP access on CD Net
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:14:20 GMT
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     Kong
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Dear netters,

I am looking for a solution to share data on CD Net using TCP/IP, does
anyone know how to do it? Is there any other CD ROM network that could be
shared and accessed from TCP/IP host?

regards

Augustine Lo
Computer Services Centre
The Chinese University of Hong Kong

august@next.csc.cuhk.hk
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:55:27 HKT
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From:         Edith-Wu@ULI.MGATE1.CUHK.HK
Subject:      Bibliofile on CD Net

I was told that Bibliofile could not be run on CD Net.  Has anyone tried
this before?

Edith Wu
University Library
The Chinese University of Hong Kong

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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:30:41 -0400
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From:         Gerry Oxford <OXFORD@FLIS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      Novell/CBIS problem
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I've just installed a CBIS server on our LAN. We run Netware 3.11, with 2
ethernets and 2 arcnets plugged into the server, and no other connections
or servers (except for a Charon mail gateway plugged into one of the
arcnet stations). So IPX traffic is local to the 4 strands. Problem is, I
can use the cdserver from stations on the same strand of ethernet, but
from nowhere else (not exactly true, it worked once from the second
ethernet, the day the installer was here, natch). The CDUSE command fails
to find the cd server, and times out after about a minute with a DOS 54:
116 error message.

If anyone else has a similar setup that works, or better yet has had the
same problem and knows what I'm doing wrong, I'd really appreciate hearing
from you. CBIS hasn't been able to help, they think it's my server. But
it's pretty vanilla, as far as I can tell. Besides, it *did* work, once.

Thanks.

Gerry Oxford  <oxford@flis.utoronto.ca>
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:47:59 EDT
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From:         ARNOLD@MICRODES.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM
Subject:      Re: Max. SCSI cable length?
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To: CDROMLAN POSTINGS

>cable length?                Date:7/22/92 Does anyone know what the SCSI
spec. is for >the maximum distance from the controller card to an
[external]  CD-ROM drive?

The maximum SCSI Bus cable length (single-ended) is 18 feet.  When
calculating this value you must also include the lengths of any SCSI bus
cable inside your computer (only if you have an internal device), and the
cable lengths inside any external enclosure.

For example, suppose you have an internal SCSI hard disk, and an external
SCSI CD-ROM drive.  The cable lengths might look like:
   A) 1 foot internal cable from hard disk to SCSI Host Adapter
   B) 6 foot external cable from SCSI Host Adapter to CD-ROM sub system
   C) 1 foot internal cable inside CD-ROM enclosure

  Total SCSI Bus cable length in this example is 8 feet.

- Arnold Jones
Micro Design International, Inc.
arnold@microdes.mhs.compuserve.com
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From:         Greg Kaisen <greg_kaisen@YCCATSMTP.YCC.YALE.EDU>
Subject:      Max. SCSI cable length?

                       Subject:                               Time:12:41 PM
  OFFICE MEMO          Max. SCSI cable length?                Date:7/22/92
Does anyone know what the SCSI spec. is for the maximum distance from the
controller card to an [external]  CD-ROM drive?
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Date:         Mon, 20 Jul 1992 16:38:56 EST
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From:         REMELT@LEGACY.CALVIN.EDU
Subject:      CETEDOC Library of Christian Latin Texts
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If any one is running the CETEDOC Library of Christian Latin Texts, I would
like to know what type of computer and CD drive you are using and what you
have in your config.sys and autoexec.bat files. And, if you had to do
anything "magical" to get the thing going.


Obviously, I am having problems getting our disc to work. I am using an IBM
386SX with a Hitachi 1750S SCSI drive using 2.21 MSCDEX. I have 560K of RAM
left for the operation of the disc. I get up to the "Loading Applications"
process but then it just sits there. When I do a warm boot to start over, I
get "divide overflow."

Any help will be appreciated!

Thanks!

Glenn Remelts
Calvin College & Seminary Library
(616) 957-6072 (voice)
remelt@legacy.calvin.edu
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:41:05 EDT
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From:         Steve Kirby <SRKIRBY@UGA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: SCSI Express, CD-NET licences
              21 Jul 1992 16:24:48 BST from <RGLYNN@VAX.OXFORD.AC.UK>

Can't speak for CD-NET, but SCSI Express is licensed per network rather
than per user.  List cost is $795 US.  While I may have a few quibbles
with the price of MDI's hardware, their software pricing is first-rate
(as is their product).  Be glad to answer any other questions about SCSI
Express that I can.

--Steve


Steven Kirby
University of Georgia
SRKIRBY@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:36:48 EDT
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From:         Serge Goldstein <SERGE@PUCC.BITNET>
Subject:      autism and antibiotics

Apologies if this has already been discussed on the list (I've been away for
a while ...)

Does anyone know of any research into possible correlations between autism
and the pediatric use of antibiotics?  I ask because it strikes me that the
dating of the first autism reports correlates well with the appearance of
antibiotics (Or does it? When was Kanner's first report, and when did
pediatricians first start using antibiotics?).  Antibiotics are notorious
for inducing allergic reactions.  Kanner reported that the parents of his
autistic children tended to be highly educated -- just the kind of people
who would have been among the first to have their children treated with the
early antibiotics.  I've also seen a mention in one of Rimland's newsletters
to a correlation between autism and aggressive treatment of ear infections
in infants.  Just a thought ...
Serge
Serge
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From:         RJKOPP@SUVM.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Losing speech.

Using the the posts from this group should be fine.  They are publically
accessible to anyone that can get to the machines.  I don't think you
even need an account, but that aside, I would hope you do, if anyone has
objections, please post them.  When I formed this group it was to provide
widespread information and with the intention of sharing experiences, so
I certainly would advocate your using it.

Thanks,
Ray Kopp
Syracuse, New York
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 07:47:54 EDT
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From:         Anne Pemberton <apembert@VDOE386.VAK12ED.EDU>
Subject:      Autism in Teacher Magazine
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              "IP15217%PORTLAND.BitNet@pucc.princeton.edu" at Jul 21,
              92 4:03 pm

Just got the August issue of "Teacher Magazine", and the cover
boldly declares "I Have Autism ... It is like wishing I could
be normal. I want to have people treat me like I am smart."

The article is by Amanda Spake, called "Breaking the Silence".
The article is a reprint from the same in the Washington Post
Magazine (no date).

The article describes the history of autism and the current
promising practices especially Facilitated Communication.
Rosemary Crossley in Australia and Douglas Biklin at Syracuse
are referred to throughout the piece, althoug the "scene" of
the article is a school in Chantilly, VA (Up in the DC area).

Hope all enjoy,

    Anne


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From:         IP15217@PORTLAND.BITNET
Subject:      FC Skeptics

First I have to admit that my daughter is facilitating and most of it is
pretty functional stuff without all the emotional things that many people
are reporting.  The Adriana Foundation has been doing a study of 101
individuals with autism and FC.  I got the handout and the statistics from
the Adriana people directly.  The data reported on was the use of an
inexperienced facilitator as opposed to an experienced facilitator.  Only 1
person of 101 expressed any thoughts independent of questions asked to them.
with the experienced facilitator the the rate jumped to 40.  While I find the

numbers a little disturbing, I also have to note that there are "trust" issues
involved that the statistics are not addressing.  Even my daughter will only
facilitate with selected people that she trusts and only if they hold her hand
appropriately.


          Curtis Maurand   "IP15217@PORTLAND.BITNET"
                           "IP15212@PORTLAND.MAINE.EDU"
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From:         Serge Goldstein <SERGE@PUCC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: autism and antibiotics
              22 Jul 1992 09:38:00 PDT from <DANM@MSMAIL.HUMAN.CORNELL.EDU>

On Wed, 22 Jul 1992 09:38:00 PDT <DANM@MSMAIL.HUMAN.CORNELL.EDU> said:
>Serge,
>
>I had never heard about the hypothesized correlation between early antibiotic
>use and autism.  Alex had an arm fracture when he was delivered. Young baby's
>bones are all cartiledge so breakages don't appear in initial X-Rays (only
>when the bone starts to heal does the fracture become visible). Thus when his
>arm began to swell dramatically there was a possibility that the cause was
>infection.  This, coupled with my wife's water breaking several hours prior
>to our ability to get to a hospital, convinced my son's pediatrician to put
>him on antibiotics for a few days to prevent the possible spread of infection
>to his brain.  Alex did not have an infection -- the fracture appeared on the
>X-Ray a few days later and all blood tests cam back negative -- but he did
>have strong doses of antibiotics from his 2nd to about 5th day of life.
>
>Dan
I spoke yesterday to someone at COSAC (a New Jersey autism counseling/referal
agency), who told me that there was some research into the relationship
between autism, antibiotics and systema candida (a kind of yeast infection).
Apparently, heavy uses of antibiotics can lead to ?ph? imbalances, that in
turn lead the yeast infections, and there are documented cases of candida-
induced autism.  Some of this is supposed to be covered in the book
"The Yeast Connection", which I haven't seen.  Anyway, I'm trying to learn
more about this, particularly about the possible effects of the antibiotics
themselves.  But I don't want to start a rumor mill ... so far as I know,
there is no documented relationship whatsoever.  Also, just in case a lot
of parents read this and say "Gee, my son/daughter was treated with xxcillin
for an ear-infection", I should point out that almost every single child in
America receives antibiotics at some point during their first 2 years
of life, and most of them are not autistic.
Serge
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From:         DANM@MSMAIL.HUMAN.CORNELL.EDU
Subject:      spinning

Alex enjoys spinning immensely, too. Sometimes I have to stop because I get
nauseas or dizzy but he never appears to.  Merry-go-rounds and the like are
also very popular with Alex.  Like many autistic children Alex was also
interested in spinning objects.  He never stared at phonographs or spinning
wheels but I remember when he was 7-12 months old he would collect objects,
crawl to our (then) only uncarpeted floor and toss the objects repeatedly,
being delighted when he found ones that rolled or spinned.  We thought he was
a budding scientist -- like many parents of autistic children do when their
children partake in similar activities.  Also at this time Alex became
hystericallly amused by things with backspin.  If I put backspin on a ball or
cup he would break out laughing.  I used to do that quite a bit because most
of the time Alex showed little affect, and I enjoyed seeing him laugh and
have such a good time.  My other son, Simon, was also amused by backspin, but
much less so and he tired of the novelty fairly soon. Not so with Alex.

Explanations have been offered on this net about why autistic children like
to *be* spinned, but why do they enjoy watching spinning things?  Is it
because of the predictability?  Alex also enjoys watching the tape counter on
our stereo and trying to predict what number it will be on at the end of each
song.  It has the characteristic of sameness with a little variation (to make
it exciting) that Sean Bolland talked about a lot in his book -- for example
explaining his fascination with dead end streets.  He knew that it would dead
end and that made him secure and in control. But he was free to wonder
whether it would end in a cul-de-sac or a fence or whatever.  This enabled
him to enjoy a constrained uncertainty in a world that was too a large extent
incomprehensible and scary because of too much uncertainty.


Daniel Mont
d6m@cornella
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