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From: ddc@nyquist.bellcore.com (Daniel Chukurov 21324)
Subject: Re: Macedonian Recognition after US elections.
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 03:20:50 GMT

In article <BxI0nC.8Jy@gabriel.keele.ac.uk> cla04@seq1.keele.ac.uk (A.T. Fear) writes:
>From article <1992Nov8.160938.16119@walter.bellcore.com>, by ddc@nyquist.bellcore.com (Daniel Chukurov 21324):
>
>> 	The only thing that we shoul worry about is the real intentions 
>> 	of Skopjans of uniting with Bulgaria and destroying the current
>> 	peace beetwin Greece and Bulgaria.
>> 
>> 	The best thing would be to split up the Skopje, have a referendum
>> 	and let people decide which country do they want to join: Bulgaria,
>> 	Greece, Albania or Serbia. As it now stands, recognition of
>> 	"Macedonia" can only bring problem into the area.
>> 
>I think the increasingly frequent noises from Serbia on the above theme
>and the fate of various other Balkan communities recently demonstrate
>only too well why Macedonia might wish to acquire some arms...
>
>Andy

	Andy, you sound like a person who can not admit a mistake by 
	your government and the governments of other EC countries.
	It seems now that there is change of heart and admitance at least
	by the French government on the issue of forced break-up of
	Ex-Yugoslavia.
	You see, the Germans really did sucker you into this. The Germans
	have something to gain from it, at least they are getting even with 
	the Serbs for 
	the two world war defeats, but what is your goverment getting
	out of this deal? And now when the time comes to enforce this 
	stupid decision guess who will that have to be? Will it be Germans 
	who will loose their lives over it, or will it be somebody else?
	With this Yugoslavia break-up and commencement of EC the Germans
	will finally win what they could not do in two world wars.

Just another thought:
	If EC accepts all of the Ex-Yugoslavian countries into it's mem- 
	bership where will the Slovenes and Croats go?


Regards, DDC.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
From: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: RE: HAPPY 80TH BIRTHDAY
Date: 4 Nov 92 21:43:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-8298v.32bis
Reply-To: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 


Quoting Giorgios:
>        The King got his way almost to the end. Look at the facts. The
>    greek army liberated Katerini, 40 miles south of Thessaloniki on
>    October 12. Did it cover the next 40 miles the day after? No, we
>know
>    that it entered Thessaloniki on Oct 28. Did it stage a siege on the
>city?
>    No. The Greek army after the capture of Katerini completely ignored
>the
>    city and advanced to an other city 35 miles north-west of
>Thessaloniki,
>    Giannitsa, where the bulk of the turkish military was stationed.

 During war, 40 miles can be equal to 4,000 miles during peace.
Giannitsa sits right in the middle of the Loudias-Axios plain, and the
army that controlled it would have tremendous strategic advandages.
Perhaps the generals wanted to gain maximum control of the plain,
destroying the turkish army first, then deal with Salonica later.
Perhaps they followed the path of least resistance at the time.
Perhaps they underestimated the rate of advance of the Bulgarian Army.
Perhaps they expected Salonica to be well-defended.

 I am just guessing that Giannitsa must have been more
tempting to the generals (who think in terms of strategy and
positioning), while Salonica must have been more tempting to the
government (who think in terms of economical importance of the city,
and in terms of perceptions of gains back home).

 In any case, while it is true that inside the city itself there was
little resistance, the road to Salonica was not free of enemy troops.

M.
From: ehrlich@bimacs.BITNET (Gideon Ehrlich)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: 1st Re: jesus of Nazareth
Date: 8 Nov 92 13:25:56 GMT
Organization: Math department, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, ISRAEL

In article <1992Nov5.165122.14694@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>
jgoldber@todah.chem.utoronto.ca (Joel Goldberg) writes:

>In article <4424@bimacs.BITNET> ehrlich@bimacs.BITNET (Gideon Ehrlich) writes:
>>I heared several hundreds times , persons in some trubles asking some
>>saints to help them , and i never heared anyone saying :
>>
>>Oh maria ( paule, jesus, christopher or any other saint) please ask
>>god to help me.

>  Have you ever been to Tiberias (Tiveria) ? Why make the effort to
>  pray _there_ rather than anywhere else?

I was many times at Tiberias (Tverya), There is no reason to pray
there rather then out of Tveria.

If Joel Goldberg's aim is to use this Jewish net for a christian
misionnary activity then he is definitely doing an immoral action.
 Since a messaih is supposed to turn humanity , and at least
his followers, from bad to good, a jesus-follower-immoral activity
( like using this net for misionary activity) proves jesus is not a
messaia.


gideon ehrlich
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: naeem@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Naeem Mohaiemen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Was:Why rish asians should vote Republican
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:00:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: occs.NAEEM.92Nov10170026
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
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In article <BxGzp7.IFv@acsu.buffalo.edu> dtwei@acsu.buffalo.edu (Danielle T Wei) writes:

   BUSH FOR PRESIDENT IN 1996 :)

   [..deleted]

   I think the biggest split between the minority groups is "who wants what."
   Most Africans want a "united colored race" stand together against those
   "white slave owner" while most Asians do not care that much, and would much
   rather prefer personal wealth.
----
Hopefully that will change as the newer generation of Asian-Americans that
grew up in this country start to care for something other than their own
pockets.



   		blacks like educational quotas (how else can they get people
   into top schools?) 
----
Dinesh acolytes everywhere I turn..


	 Face it: the Democratic party is/will be dominated by the blacks,
   and we will never get anywhere working with them.
----
I hope you will seriously consider entering politics, you have a bright future
in the Republican party.
























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From: underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe)
Subject: Re: 1992 Election results of Calif Asian Americans
Organization: Miners for a Heart of Gold
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 23:06:17 GMT

In article <yfA=za-@engin.umich.edu> Michael F. Kamprath
<kamprath@space-grant.sprl.umich.edu> writes:
>In article <1992Nov7.214426.1377@leland.Stanford.EDU> 
>underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>>(Note that I'm expressing no opinion on affirmative.  What I'm saying
>>is that if you continuously conduct the experiment of selecting, with
>>replacement, a ball out a jar of 3 balls--red, white, and blue, then
>>the probability of picking a red ball becomes very high after a long
>>time of not having picked a red ball, assuming a _fair_ experiment of
>>3 unbiased balls.)
>Just in case you are all confused as to what is the right answer:  if
>you are replacing the balls, then you odds are equal that you'll get
>the red ball ( 1/3 ) every time you grab for a new one.  If it turns
>out that you aren't getting the red ball that much, well, you've just
>discovered what _probability_ means and you are SOL.

Mr. Kamprath is correct; I overstepped myself  For each repetition of the
experiment, the probability is 1/3 for picking a red ball.

What I should have said is that if there are 2 red balls, 5 white balls,
and 1 blue ball, then over time we expect that 1/4 of the experiments should
yield a red ball, 5/8 of the experiments should yield a white ball, and
1/8 of the experiments should yield a blue ball.  If, however, after many
experiments, no red ball is picked, then the probability of an unfair
experiment of 8 biased balls is very high.

Back to the original point, I said that I wondered if President-elect Clinton 
would show the daring to pick a Japanese-American National Science Advisor.
Although the number of "white balls" in science and engineering is larger
than the number of "red balls", the latter are overrepesented and do not
constitute a negligibly small portion of the balls in science and engineering.
Over a long time, we should expect (but cannot demand since that is the nature
of probability) that at least 1 "red ball" would be picked.

Will President-elect Clinton select a Japanese-American?  It has been a
_very_ _long_ time.

Again, I am expressing no opinion on affirmative action; I specifically said
that we cannot demand the selection of a Japanese-American National Science
Advisor.  I'm sure that the late Senator Hayakawa would agree with me.

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From: naeem@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Naeem Mohaiemen)
Subject: Re: Was:Why rish asians should vote Republican
	<NAEEM.92Nov10170026@occs.cs.oberlin.edu>
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:31:29 GMT
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I would like to clarify that the following statements marked with a ">"
are not my statements. They are the statements of the original poster
to whom I was responding. I receiving angry mail from person who had
confused my responses with original quote


>I think the biggest split between the minority groups is "who wants what."
>Most Africans want a "united colored race" stand together against those
>"white slave owner" while most Asians do not care that much, and would 
>much rather prefer personal wealth.
 
>blacks like educational quotas (how else can they get people
>into top schools?) 
 
>Face it: the Democratic party is/will be dominated by the blacks,
>and we will never get anywhere working with them.
 




















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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: georgew@hspice.portal.com (George Wu)
Subject: Re: "Asians changing names to help job prospects"
Organization: Meta - Software
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 01:38:07 GMT

-
     Hey, I bet you didn't expect to hear from me, did you?  Well, I
explicitly asked about news access, and was told there was none here.
I guess it's relatively new, because I found an rn binary and why else
would it be here.  So much for concentrating on the new job . . .  :-)

     Anyways, getting to the real point, there is no shortage of Poles,
Italians, Germans, etc. who've changed their names.  The best examples
are from Hollywood.  There aren't many movie stars with names like
Kowalski.  However, it also common among plain ordinary folk too.  Lots
of immigrants' kids changed their names to sound more "American."

						George


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american,soc.culture.bangladesh
From: watanabe@cs.uiuc.edu (Larry Watanabe)
Subject: Re: More Money than Votes
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 08:47:32 GMT

dtwei@acsu.buffalo.edu (Danielle T Wei) writes:

>This is true in a sense, but look at the Japanese-Americans
>during WWII.. The truth is: the U.S. must pay respect to your homeland if
>you want to live happily in the U.S.A.

There is no way I could live happily in a U.S.A (or Canada) that would 
respect my rights only if it were on good terms with Japan.
Besides, my homeland is Canada, not Japan.

>Well, I hope these Asians would join the Republican party when they get
>a chance. Face it: the Democratic party is/will be dominated by the blacks,
>and we will never get anywhere working with them.. We must gain more power
>by making ourselves larger in the Republican party..

You may not have intended it this way, but this came across
as a little racist .. perhaps you would like to rephrase it?

-Larry Watanabe watanabe@cs.uiuc.edu
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From: yuan1@husc10.harvard.edu (Nina Yuan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,alt.discrimination
Subject: Re: What is real racism? (Re: Was:Why rish asians
Date: 13 Nov 92 10:13:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Nov13.051314.17404
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <BxMK94.8C3@acsu.buffalo.edu> dtwei@acsu.buffalo.edu (Danielle T Wei) writes:
>
>But a culture is based on those "highly irrelevant" moralities..
>Is it a "good thing" now that the Americans are letting the fundamental
>bases of their culture rot in the name of freedom of speech?

Gee, I always thought freedom of speech was a basis of American
culture.

-nhy
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: bbs.lar@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Larry Greenfield)
Subject: AT&T to Vietnam
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 02:28:04 GMT

In case ayone didn't hear it, AT&T now will begin the process of making 
available direct lines to Vietnam from the U.S.  No more going through 
3rd parties in Canada and such. I don't know exactly when this will take 
effect, I suggest you call AT&T.
Note: I don't work for AT&T (thank god)
:::::Larry:::::

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: jpak@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Jim Pak)
Subject: Re: What is Asian ?
Keywords: Typical
Reply-To: jpak@manute.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc.  Austin, Tx.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:34:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.033713.16073@u.washington.edu> pmfisher@milton.u.washington.edu (Patrick Fisher) writes:
>        Asians are only people who look Asian; you cannot be Asian
>in spirit, especially if you are a white.  If you are white, you
>are the evil opressor of American society; a member of a group of
>people who are out to extinguish Asian culture...so keep an eye
>on them and be forever vigilant in preserving your culture...you 
>know, like get some Chinese take-out...
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What a typical comment from a clueless asshole.  Fisher, you haven't posted
here in God-knows how long, and this is what you come back with?

You know, the first part of your post wasn't too bad on the sarcastic scale.
The old "blame it all on us--we're white" remarks.  Nothing JJ couldn't have
written better, but still, not bad.  But what's with that last comment?  As
if Asian culture, or even Chinese culture, in this country boils down to
nothing more than take-out from a restaurant.

But tell you what, given the choice, I'd *still* prefer that little sliver of
"Asian culture," as opposed to "white culture" in this country, which from
what I can glean is nothing more than a bunch of loud-mouthed drunks scream-
ing in a hot-tub at two in the morning and tossing their half-empty beer cans
in front of my apartment.

Jim
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: garyt@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Gary Terusaki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Your sig (was Re: Dominant American culture/Lack of Native Pride?)
Summary: So why the change?
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:53:57 GMT
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.

Dwight's new signature:
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So, why the change?  Did Capitol Toyota threaten to sue you?

Gary

P.S. I'll get around to updating mine later.



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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: usubrama@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Uma M Subramanian)
Subject: email discussion group for south asian women
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:23:18 GMT

There is an email discussion group for south asian women which has
been set up recently. Women from the south asian countries as well 
as women from other parts of the world interested in the issues that
concern south asian women are welcome to join this discussion group.
This group is not open to men as it is set up now. Women who would 
like to join this mailing list should send mail to 

usubrama@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu

OR

susanc@helix.nih.gov

Uma Subramanian

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: choi@wk59.nas.nasa.gov (Diana Choi)
Subject: Re: Dominant American culture/Lack of Native Pride?
Organization: NAS Program, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 16:53:22 GMT

(Suppasak Collins) writes:
>Americans are not the only ones who view their culture as the dominant culture,
>Thailand and I'm sure most other Asian countries perceive this to be true as 
>well.  In Thailand, anything American is assumed to be superior.  There is
>much to be said about the issue of rejecting your own culture to accect foreign
>ones.  As a Thai, this disturbs me very much.  Seems like everyone wants to
>be American in every way and assimilate.  That's why I admire African-Americans
>(the ones I know anyways), they seem to have more pride and dignity about
>their native culture than most Thai, Asian, Asian-American I know.
>
>Any thoughts on this?
>

In Hawaii, people tend to take more pride in their nationality or being
"local" (at least the non-whites) than in being American.  (Or maybe, Hawaii 
isn't really part of America.)

diana
From: dtwei@acsu.buffalo.edu (Danielle T Wei)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: 1992 Election results of Calif Asian Americans
Date: 8 Nov 92 00:28:08 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: UB

In article <1992Nov7.214426.1377@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>I presume that they are all Japanese-Americans with the exception
>of Jay Kim.  That's pretty much what I expected.

But the Chinese population outnumbers Japanese population in just about
every state except for Hawaii
Racist pigs

>Perhaps, President-elect Clinton will have the daring to pick a
>Japanese-American as the National Science Advisor.  Considering the
>severe overrepresentation of Oriental-Americans in the sciences 
>and engineering, the non-discriminatory probability of selecting a
>Japanese-American should be very high as time progresses.  And it
>has been a very long time.

Pick a Japanese-American?? Good, that eliminates Dwight!!

>(Note that I'm expressing no opinion on affirmative.  What I'm saying
>is that if you continuously conduct the experiment of selecting, with
>replacement, a ball out a jar of 3 balls--red, white, and blue, then
>the probability of picking a red ball becomes very high after a long
>time of not having picked a red ball, assuming a _fair_ experiment of
>3 unbiased balls.)

No, that's called the Idiot's Probability..
The red ball actually has a LOWER chance of being picked, because if
it had never been picked before, its would be oppressed by the other balls
to its lowly position because of lack of power..

My solution?? NOT AFFIRMATIVE ACTION!! Suppose you have 2 balls being
oppressed, but one is larger than the other.. When you use the logics
of Affirmative Action, you're really cutting the benefits of one [asians]
to appease the other one with a larger voice [another ethnic group here]

My solution: Social service exams, don't let those executives [clinto]
appoint people because he needs to repay their favors!! Look at the
drug czar we have today!?!? (name=Martinez, see story on Inside Edition)
CORRUPTION!!!

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From: ee152fdm@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (Maiko Covington)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: What is Asian ?
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:05:08 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego


	Egads.... I certainly HOPE you are kidding!!!!
		Maiko

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