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From: paul@sco.COM (Paul Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: Re: Bob S
Keywords: FAQ
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:00:18 GMT
Organization: SCO Canada, Inc.

In article <1993Jan8.155235.24897@cbnewsi.cb.att.com> reha@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (reha.gur) writes:
>And now some bridge....
>playing 2/1 GF (no inverted minors, limit raises in minors,
>invitational NT over minors (2N = 11-12, 3N = 13-15))
>
>MATCHPOINTS, vul vs not vul.
>partner opens 1d - pass to you:
>
>your hand: A x x / A K / K J x x / x x x x
>
>what is your bid? 
>
>reha gur

Although I'd like to look for the diamond slam I see no intelligent way of
doing so with the methods described. I take the view that one should only
look for miracle slams when one has the right tools for the job. Given that
a club response grossly distorts where my strength lies and will probably
cause partner to misevaluate their hand (partner will get very excited with
something like xx xx AQxxx AJxx or very turned off with KQx Qxxx AQxxx x)
I'll just bid a simple 3NT.

Playing MY methods I'd bid an inverted 2D and would have a chance to explore
slam while neither misdescribing my hand nor getting past 3NT (not that this
means anything except that inverted minors work well with this hand). Your
choice of methods is very poorly oriented to investigating a minor suit slam,
it has advantages on some hands but costs on hands like this one.
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From: bharat@cs.uiuc.edu (R. Bharat Rao)
Subject: Re: Bob S. (was Re: Arggggh!)
Keywords: true, ouch
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:35:24 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.010420.22398@leland.Stanford.EDU>, altus@leland.Stanford.EDU (Steve Altus) writes:

|> okay fine, i better include some bridge content...  IMPS, both red,
|> 1C-p-1S to you (partner acts very aggressively at the one level) 
|> you hold:   ---, AQ9xxxx, AQTxx, x   (0-7-5-1 if i miscounted x's)
|> 
|> 
|> your call?  (your methods are that 2C and 2S are both natural, 1NT
|> shows the unbids without enough strength to double and is nonforcing,
|> 4S is natural, and 3C and 3S are asking for a notrump stopper in that
|> suit...4C is undefined...   and would your answer change if you 
|> had 2C or 2S available to show a very distributional 2-suiter?)

If the the two red suits were better balanced as in 0-6-6-1, I think
a pass hoping to play 5H or 5D doubled would be best -- but, there is
too much of a risk in passing now.  You need to enter the auction ---
I play 1N and X as showing the unbid suits, and the latter shows some
values; so X it is with later bidding hearts if it is possible--- the
risk of partner passing this is non-existent as (a) he sits under the
spades and (b) with a spade stack he would have acted (even if he wasn't
as aggressive as Steve:-).  

|> --steve altus
 
Bharat
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From: jbaron@higgs.ssc.gov (Jeff Baron)
Subject: Re: Bidding Opinions Sought
Reply-To: jbaron@higgs.ssc.gov (Jeff Baron)
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Lab
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:53:49 GMT

Nicolas Courtel writes:
- 
- KK> IMPs, White/White, Dealer: West
- KK> You sit South holding:
- KK> 	s x
- KK> 	h JTxx
- KK> 	d KJxxxxx
- KK> 	c x
- 
- KK> The auction start out:
- KK> 	W	N	E	S
- KK> 	p	1NT	p	?
- 
- KK> What's the best reponse?  
- KK> What's the best way to proceed for each of the probable rebids by
- KK> opener?
- 
- Playing strong NT, I bid 2C and then 3D, to play 4H, 5D, or possibly 6D (not 6H)
- if partner looks *very* proud of his hand; he might have for example:
- 
-         S - J x x x
-         H - A K
-         D - A x x x
-         C - A x x

How fortunate that partner has only *1* of his 16 points in spades, 
all primary cards, 4 diamonds, and NO SMALL HEARTS.  
At least he had the spade jack and not the diamond queen.  That
would be piggish, I suppose.  Not to mention wasted.

I'd calculate the odds of partner holding this hand to be about
1 in a gazillion.

--
Jeff Baron
jbaron@gauss.ssc.gov
From: sgm@sgfb.ssd.ray.com (Steven G. Myerson)
Subject: Re: Bob S. (was Re: Arggggh!)
Keywords: true, ouch
Organization: Raytheon Submarine Signal Division
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:56:20 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.010420.22398@leland.Stanford.EDU> Steve Altus writes:

* okay fine, i better include some bridge content...  IMPS, both red,
* 1C-p-1S to you (partner acts very aggressively at the one level) 
* you hold:   ---, AQ9xxxx, AQTxx, x   (0-7-5-1 if i miscounted x's)
* 
* 
* your call?  (your methods are that 2C and 2S are both natural, 1NT
* shows the unbids without enough strength to double and is nonforcing,
* 4S is natural, and 3C and 3S are asking for a notrump stopper in that
* suit...4C is undefined...   and would your answer change if you 
* had 2C or 2S available to show a very distributional 2-suiter?)

How about 2H? I don't think the bidding is about to die here,
and your next bid will probably be 5D.

Steve Myerson (sgm@sgfb.ssd.ray.com)
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From: baseggio@deshaw.com (Franco Baseggio)
Subject: Re: How many ways?
Summary: My mistake
Organization: D. E. Shaw & Co.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:30:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.180222.12994@leland.Stanford.EDU> daveshao@leland.stanford.edu (David Shao) writes:
>In article <C0r0tM.847@deshaw.com> baseggio@deshaw.com (Franco Baseggio) writes:
>>In article <1iufgjINNo1m@s-crim1.dl.ac.uk> mbrgw@s-crim1.dl.ac.uk (R.G. Walters) writes:
>>>A slam hand from the Gold Cup.
>>>
>>>At adverse vulnerability, you hear LHO open 1 spade, and quickly find yourself
>>>bounced into this seven club contract:
>>>
>>>  Q 7 6                    (Well, not quite - they chickened out of the
>>>  K 9 8                     sacrifice and let us play in 6C)
>>>  A Q 7 5 3
>>>  K 8                       How do you play on a small diamond lead?
>>>
>>>  -                         What about a low heart lead?
>>>  A 7 6 5 4                 
>>>  2                         Is there more than one way to play the hand?
>>>  A Q J 10 4 3 2
>>>
>>How about playing LHO for AKxxx/xxx/Kxxx/x or something similar.  Take
>>the diamond finesse, play DA (pitching a heart) and ruff a diamond.
>>Now run 7 clubs reaching this position:
>>[rest deleted, contract makes if the progressive squeeze is on]
>
>Is it really necessary to assume that LHO has D Kxxx?  How about this
>line:  take DA at trick one, ruff a diamond, cross to dummy with CK,
>ruff another diamond high.  The DK has fallen if EITHER LHO or RHO
>started with D Kxx.  Now as Bob Silverman pointed out one has
>twelve tricks and can hope to squeeze LHO in the majors.
>
>[hypothetical analysis of meaning of hypothetical actions by
opponents deleted]

I admit my line is inferior:  if you take my line and the diamonds
split, then the progressive squeeze is stupid.  Just ruff out another
diamond and try the simple major suit squeeze vs LHO.  Given that LHO
has SAK and 3+ hearts, the finesse is still called for, I think.  It
wins with Kxxx or Kxxxx on the left and only loses with Kxx on the
right (or Kx, I think the progressive squeeze can still work if the K
pops up on the second round).  I think an opening bid carries more
information than their decision not to sacrifice.  

Franco
From: ahollander@dcs.simpact.com
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: Re: Dr. Roth (addendum)
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:56:55 PDT
Organization: Simpact Associates, San Diego CA

The moral to the story from my first followup to "Dr Roth" is:

	Bidding is a combination of Science and Art.

Al (there should be a Zen Life Master rating) Hollander
From: varvel@cs.utexas.edu (Donald A. Varvel)
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: Re: Reading List?
Date: 4 Jan 1993 11:49:57 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: im4u.cs.utexas.edu
Keywords: books

I rarely follow up my own postings, but this one seems to need some
corrections.

In article <1i87nnINNpv@im4u.cs.utexas.edu> varvel@cs.utexas.edu (Donald A. Varvel) writes:
>In article <1993Jan3.193903.1604@netcom.com> ditt@netcom.com (Debora Dittmar) writes:
>>What books would rgbers recommend for a bridge novice to read? I want to stick
>>to Standard American bidding for the present. I've already got Root's
>>Commonsense Bidding, Root and Pavlicek's Modern Bridge Conventions
>>and Kantar's Bridge Conventions. 

>>Something on actually playing the hand comes to mind, but what's good? Also, 
>>what books would be useful on the strategies that duplicate requires?

>1. I'm not familiar with Kantar's book.  Bear in mind that the treatments
>   recommended by Root and Pavlicek are in many cases *far* from being
>   standard.  Not bad.  Just not recommended anywhere but in that book.
>   Things that come to mind are new suits not forcing over weak 2's and
>   the treatment of 4th suit forcing.

While I'll stand by what I say about R&P's treatment of 4SF, including
their treatment of weak 2's is an exaggeration.  There have always been
advocates of NSNF, from Schenken (who arguably invented weak 2's) to
Bergen.  This treatment is very rare in my area, but perhaps not in yours.

>2. I'm not a great admirer of Standard American.  I wish somebody would
>   do an update of Kaplan-Sheinwold.

Here I meant a bidding text on the order of the 1963 book, not the later
system summaries.  I do not believe ploughing through a system summary
is a good way to learn any bidding system.

>3. In answer to the direct question:

Why I left out Sheinwold's _Five Weeks to Winning Bridge_ is beyond me.
It was late, I guess.

Kit Woolsey's _Matchpoints_ is a wonderful book and should probably be
mentioned here, but is a bit much for a beginner.

-- Don Varvel (varvel@cs.utexas.edu)
From: varvel@cs.utexas.edu (Donald A. Varvel)
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: Re: Reading List?
Keywords: books
Date: 4 Jan 93 22:37:17 GMT
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: im4u.cs.utexas.edu

In article <C0CG7v.9qF@deshaw.com> baseggio@deshaw.com (Franco Baseggio) writes:
>In article <1i87nnINNpv@im4u.cs.utexas.edu> varvel@cs.utexas.edu (Donald A. Varvel) writes:
>>   b. It's hardly a beginner's text, but Kantar's Defensive Bridge Play
>>      Complete, "the big red book," is required reading for intermediate
>>      players.  There are books by Kantar and Kelsey on defense that are
>>      good after you've gotten through the big red book a time or two.

>Do other netters concur that "the big red book" is required reading?
>Also, does anyone know where the Kelsey defense book (what is it
>called?) is sold?  I've never seen it.

I meant things like Kelsey's _Killing Defence at Bridge_ and Kantar's
_Kantar for the Defense_ books.  Kantar, in addition, has done two
introductory books that should be mentioned: _Introduction to Declarer's
Play_ and _Introduction to Defender's Play_.  All of these books are
available from most bridge book suppliers.  Dallas Bridge Books, for
example, has 17 books by Kantar and 43 (!) by Kelsey.  DBB can be
reached at 1-800-442-7434.  Baron-Barclay has 14 and 29 respectively
and can be reached at 1-800-274-2221.  Almost all of the Kelsey books
and most of the Kantar concern play and defense (or if you speak
English rather than American, "defence").

-- Don Varvel (varvel@cs.utexas.edu)
From: ttllarsa@eua.ericsson.se (Lars Andersson)
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: Re: Delicate decision
Date: 7 Jan 93 10:33:30 GMT
Reply-To: ttllarsa@eua.ericsson.se
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden

A while ago I posted this...

>Matchpoints, only the opponents are vulnerable.
>Your opponents are playing fivecard majors and 12-14 1NT.
>RHO opens 1D, you hold: AJT/J/AK95/AQ862
 
>What do you do now?
>If you double and partner bids 1H, what do you bid?
 
>--lars
 

Partner held xxx/xxx/Txxx/xxx.
At the table I decided to pass, LHO also passed and partner
held that nice hand in the balancing seat (he passed). I misdefended
so 1D was only two down for +200 and a nice score.

The whole deal was;
       xxx
       xxx
       Txxx
       xxx
xxx          KQxx
QTxxx        AKxx
xx           QJx
Jxx          Kx
      AJT
      J
      AK9x
      AQxxx


This must be some sort of world record for weakest hand held when 1 of a suit is
passed to you.

--lars
From: varvel@cs.utexas.edu (Donald A. Varvel)
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: Re: Arggggh!
Date: 7 Jan 1993 15:07:30 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: im4u.cs.utexas.edu
Keywords: true, ouch

In article <1ihrntINN2eo@s-crim1.dl.ac.uk> mbrgw@s-crim1.dl.ac.uk (R.G. Walters) writes:
|In article <1993Jan7.142424.12316@linus.mitre.org> bs@gauss.mitre.org (Robert D. Silverman) writes:

|>In any event, this hand is fairly simple: You reopen with a double, showing
|>substantial extras and short spades. This is fairly standard. On most hands
|>partner will sit and you will beat 4S a trick or 2. On a few hands partner
|>will sit and 4S will make [when they have both red aces and one is in dummy
|>and dummy has a trump to finesse your K]. On a few hands partner will hold
|>a long weak suit when 4S makes and he will pull to 5 of that suit. On
|>balance it is clear that a reopening double is correct.

|Hold on. Shouldn't you really have 4 hearts for a double?
|(for those of you still reading/interested, the hand was

|Vul vs not          9
|                    A x x
|                    K Q 10 9 x
|                    A K Q 10 x             or similar).

Actually, the hand under discussion had 12 or 13 cards, depending
on version.

-- Don Varvel (varvel@cs.utexas.edu)
From: willner@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Steve Willner)
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: Re: Arggggh! (back to bridge)
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:01:05 GMT
Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA,  USA


There is an interesting bridge question beneath all the flamage.

>  K4
>  A62
>  A
>  AKQJ743

Suppose, as before, you open 2C, LHO says 4S, and partner and RHO
pass.  The 2C opening was artificial and nearly game forcing; this
hand is borderline for it.  Partner's pass shows in theory 2 controls
outside spades (A=2, K=1), but at this level partner might "cheat" a
little with other good values (e.g. spade void or ace or some very
strong suit intending to pull a double).

1) If 4NT by agreement shows a single spade stopper and an offensive
hand, would you choose that in preference to 5C at matchpoints?  At
IMPs?  At rubber?

2) Is there some other meaning for 4NT that is more valuable than the
one above?  (I don't believe Blackwood is it, since the information
about controls will usually be sufficient.)


-- 
Steve Willner            Phone 617-495-7123         Bitnet:   willner@cfa
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From: adam@irvine.com (Adam Beneschan)
Subject: Re: Bidding Opinions Sought
Organization: Irvine Compiler Corp., Irvine, California, USA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:43:52 GMT

In article <1ihmfgINNhg2@transfer.stratus.com> kvk@questor.sw.stratus.com 
(Ken Koellner) writes:

>   IMPs, White/White, Dealer: West
>   You sit South holding:
>           s x
>           h JTxx
>           d KJxxxxx
>           c x
>
>   The auction start out:
>           W	N	E	S
>           p	1NT	p	?
>
>   What's the best reponse?  
>   What's the best way to proceed for each of the probable rebids by
>   opener?

I'm assuming 1NT is 15-17.  (This information needs to be included in
posts.)

Unless you have a system that allows you to show this hand, it looks
like you're going to have to do some guessing.  It appears to me that
any way you bid is likely to be wrong a lot of the time.  Partner
could have perfect fitting cards, or he could have all the wrong cards
for you.

If I wanted to be conservative, I would make whatever bid would get us
to play in 3D, depending on what system you play.  If I felt like
trying for a pushy game, I might bid 3D, invitational.  This tells
partner I have a long diamond suit and invites him to bid 3NT if he
thinks diamonds can be set up.  If he has something like Ax, you might
take seven diamond tricks in notrump.  (Or you might only take one!)
This is a risky bid, and I don't think I'd bid 3D, especially
non-vulnerable at IMPs, unless I felt we needed a swing.

If you play that Stayman followed by 3 of a minor is weak (I don't),
you can bid 2C; then pass 2D or bid 3D over 2S.  Over 2H, you can pass
or bid 3H (invitational) or even 4H, depending on how conservative you
want to be.  Again, this feels like a guess to me;  I don't see that
either passing or inviting game is clearly superior to the other.

But since I can't bid 2C on this hand the way I play, I'm just going
to show my diamonds and not worry about missing a 4-4 heart fit.
Also, it doesn't look right to try for 5D on this hand---it seems to
require too many well-placed honors in partner's hand.

                                -- Adam
From: taylor@foraker.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Eric Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: Re: A moderately interesting defensive problem
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:20:11 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.052144.12321@midway.uchicago.edu>, pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (Jeremy Mathers) writes:
|> Playing in a club game (match points),
|> against absolutely archetypical Little Old Ladies {tm}.
|> 
|> You hold: xx,Qxx,Qxx,QJ9xx
|> 
|> Your vulnerable opponents bid: 1C (by RHO)-1H,2N-3N
|> 
|> You decide to try your 4th best club, and dummy hits with: Qxx,KJxx,Kxxx,xx
|> 
|> Partner produces the club king (thank goodness!) and declarer wins the ace.
|> Declarer crosses to the spade queen, then plays the king and a little
|> diamond to her jack and your queen (not the best play so far).

You place her with AK of psades, AJ diamonds, and A of clubs.
If she has the heart ace, then she had  (and still has) 9 tricks all day
by finessing a heart.   AKQ spades, AKJ of hearts, AK diamonds and A clubs.
Therefore we assume she does not have the heart ace.  Therefore she
should have the spade jack and a 5th club.

AKJ  xx  AJx ATxxx
	3 spades, 3 diamonds, and 1 club in the bag.  If she has the heart
	Ten And 9 then she can pick up 2 extra winners in the heart suit by
	finessing her 10.  (Partner can't lead another club).

Since partner only needs the heart 10 or 9,
a spade or diamond return will be sufficient to set the contract.
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From: bs@gauss.mitre.org (Robert D. Silverman)
Subject: Re: How many ways?
Organization: Research Computer Facility, MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:23:13 GMT

In article <1iuvl7INN7kf@s-crim1.dl.ac.uk> mbrgw@s-crim1.dl.ac.uk (R.G. Walters) writes:
>>>At adverse vulnerability, you hear LHO open 1 spade, and quickly find yourself
>>>bounced into this seven club contract:
>>		   ^^^^^^
>>>S  Q 7 6                    (Well, not quite - they chickened out of the
>>>H  K 9 8                     sacrifice and let us play in 6C)
>>>D  A Q 7 5 3
>>>C  K 8                       How do you play on a small diamond lead?
>>>
>>>S  -                         What about a low heart lead?
>>>H  A 7 6 5 4                 
>>>D  2                         Is there more than one way to play the hand?
>>>C  A Q J 10 4 3 2
>>>
>But what about on a heart lead?
>
A heart lead takes out a valuable entry prematurely. Win in hand. A 
diamonds, diamond ruff, club to K, diamond ruff. Again, if K diamonds
comes down you have 12 tricks.  If not, I see nothing better than trying
for 3-2 hearts.

The alternative is to win in hand and take the diamond finesse. If it
wins the hand is cold. [if neither red suit breaks either RHO gets
squeezed in the reds, LHO in the majors, or perhaps LHO in the pointed
suits]. If it loses and a heart comes back [BEST!] the squeeze on
LHO goes bye-bye. It takes out your entry.

I think the first line is clearly better. You can't duck the first heart
for fear of a ruff.

--
Bob Silverman
These are my opinions and not MITRE's.
Mitre Corporation, Bedford, MA 01730
"You can lead a horse's ass to knowledge, but you can't make him think"
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From: sgm@sgfb.ssd.ray.com (Steven G. Myerson)
Subject: Re: Arggggh!
Keywords: true, ouch
Organization: Raytheon Submarine Signal Division
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:27:35 GMT

In article <1ifn8mINNc5t@transfer.stratus.com> Tim Hill writes:

*  [part of personal letter to Bob deleted]
* 
*      Playing your favorite methods with your favorite partner, if you open
* 2C in third seat (Chicago, they're vulnerable with 60 on) and LHO overcalls 4S,
* what are your partner's options?  In particular, what would pass, double, and
* 4NT mean?
* 
*      If your partner and RHO pass, what would you call with:
* 
*      9
*      KQT
*      KQJ98
*      AKQ2
* 
* How 'bout with:
* 
*      K4
*      A62
*      A
*      AKQJ743
* 
* (You would open both these hands with 2C, wouldn't you?)

My name's not Bob, but I hope you won't mind me contributing my
opinion here. I do not think that either hand is worth opening 2C.
I would open the first on 1D, and the second one 1C (natural).

Steve Myerson (sgm@sgfb.ssd.ray.com)
From: taylor@foraker.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Eric Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: Re: Bob S. (was Re: Arggggh!)
Keywords: true, ouch
Date: 8 Jan 93 22:37:59 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.010420.22398@leland.Stanford.EDU>, altus@leland.Stanford.EDU (Steve Altus) writes:

Stuff Deleted:

|> okay fine, i better include some bridge content...  IMPS, both red,
|> 1C-p-1S to you (partner acts very aggressively at the one level) 
|> you hold:   ---, AQ9xxxx, AQTxx, x   (0-7-5-1 if i miscounted x's)
|> 
|> 
|> your call?  (your methods are that 2C and 2S are both natural, 1NT
|> shows the unbids without enough strength to double and is nonforcing,
|> 4S is natural, and 3C and 3S are asking for a notrump stopper in that
|> suit...4C is undefined...   and would your answer change if you 
|> had 2C or 2S available to show a very distributional 2-suiter?)

I vote making it tough for the opponents to make an informed decision.
An immediate 4H will really put the pressure on.  Your hopes are fairly
reasonable about them guessing wrong and going down doubled by partner.
From: doug@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Douglas Newlands)
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: Re: How many ways?
Date: 13 Jan 1993 00:47:41 GMT
Organization: Deakin University, Geelong, Australia
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In article <1993Jan12.145849.12048@linus.mitre.org> bs@gauss.mitre.org (Robert D. Silverman) writes:
>In article <1iufgjINNo1m@s-crim1.dl.ac.uk> mbrgw@s-crim1.dl.ac.uk (R.G. Walters) writes:
>>
>>S  Q 7 6       
>>H  K 9 8   
>>D  A Q 7 5 3
>>C  K 8    
>>
>>S  -     
>>H  A 7 6 5 4                 
>>D  2    
>>C  A Q J 10 4 3 2
>>
>Ah! An interesting hand. The only cards missing are the AK spades, QJT hearts
>and K diamonds. [relevent cards, that is]
> 
>Are you asking how to play 6C or 7C?  I'll assume the latter first.
>

Sorry if you've seen this before but there was an error in the first version
which I cancelled (hopefully before too many read it!)
Bob's analysis of 7C is fine but there is an odd squeeze available if you rely
on west having four diamonds.
Play QD, AD, ruff diamond and trumps coming to:-
      Q
      Kxx
      xx
      -
AK
QJT
K
-
     -
     Axxx
     -
     xx            Now if west lets go either red suit it gives TWO more
	     tricks so he lets go a spade and dummy throws a heart and now the
last club leaves him in an invidious position - a red discard still gives TWO
tricks and if he throws the AS, dummy throws a diamond. Declarer crosses to KH
and cashes QS and squeeze REPEATS.

doug.
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