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From: jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay)
Subject: Re: Video of Elton John
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:57:05 GMT

Yes.  It contains many of the songs done on the Album plus some extras
as well as Carla/Etude from the now discontinued American Boxed set.

I've seen it here in the states at many video  and music stores including
Camelot and Musicland/Sam Goody/Discount Records.


BTW there is an Elton John mail group.  To subscribe, send mail to:
  elton-john@uiuc.edu.


u7911050@cc.nctu.edu.tw (Saturn Paul) writes:

>Anybody know if there's a video for elton's live in austrulia.


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From: montys@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM (Monty D Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Who's "My Wife" Lyrics
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:06:35 GMT
Reply-To: montys@mapme6.map.tek.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

On the Who's "My Wife" off Who's Next, there is one line that I've
NEVER deciphered:

All I did was have a bit too much to drink and I ?????????

Please help!  It's been driving me crazy for years.

Thanks in advance

Monty

PS--Please reply directly to me rather than post the reply.
From: montys@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM (Monty D Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Need Stones Date (Madrid '91)
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:08:53 GMT
Reply-To: montys@mapme6.map.tek.com
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

Hey there Stone Fans!

Does anyone out there have a concert listing of their '91 tour?  I'm
looking for the date of the Madrid show so I can label my tape
correctly. 

Thanks in advance

Monty

PS--Please reply to me rather than post the answer.
From: martin@ucs.adelaide.edu.au (Martin Boyd)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Jeff Porcaro died: Let's make record list.
Date: 13 Aug 92 11:17:56 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Division, The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA


... Sad news about one of America's best studio and Live drummers...

... Some albums of the numerous ones he performed on were

... Eric Carmen - Boats Against the Current
    Russ Ballard - At the Third Stroke
    Janne Schaffer - Earmeal (Swedish guitarist)
                     the whole Porcaro family played on this one !!

... also heard he played on the latest James Taylor recording as well.

                                                       Martin.
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From: ckunz@pdnfido.fidonet.org (Charles Kunz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Connecticut band: Catwalk.. help me get their album!
Summary: Set your soul free, open up your heart, and the world comes into focus!
Keywords: Catwalk, Focus, CT, album, wanted, please
Date: 15 Aug 92 03:20:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Source for Source Pub Access Unix

Can someone help me out?  There's a great band in Connecticut called Catwalk,
they have an album called _Focus_, and I'd *really* like to get it *however*
I'm on Long Island, and CT record shops are a bit of a trip.  Would some
kind netter help me in getting my hands on Catwalk's CD?  (Please e-mail
replies only, I'll be out of town for a couple weeks and won't be able to read
usenet.)

Thanx muchly in advance!
Chuck
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From: i001460@disc.dla.mil (MaryLynn Orzechowski)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.games.trivia
Subject: Re: * * Another lyrics quiz to POST to! * *
Summary: rec.games.trivia
Date: 12 Aug 92 11:10:00 GMT
Followup-To: rec.games.trivia
Organization: Defense Industrial Supply Center, Philadelphia, Pa

In article <1992Aug7.150838.27690@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>, lisa writes:
  
  
>  7. 	"People are talking,
>  	 talking bout people"

         Something to Talk About/Bonnie Raitt
          
>  12.	"My head is saying 'Fool, forget him'
>  	 My heart is saying 'Don't let go'"
>  
         Hopelessly Devoted to You/Olivia Newton-John

>  13.	"Did I ever tell you you're my hero?
>  	 You're everything, everything
>   	 I wish I could be"

         Wind Beneath My Wings/Bette Midler
>  
>  14.	"I'm about to lose control 
>  	 and I think I like it"

         I'm So Excited/Pointer Sisters
>  
  
>  18.	"Before the day I met you
>  	 Life was so unkind
>  	 You're the key to my piece of mind"

         Natural Woman/??
From: olive@edale.amigans.gen.nz (Wayne Hoyle)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Tilford Difbrook Dead!  "Squeeze" (yeah, right) in Joliet
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 09:20:45 GMT
Organization: Emmerdale

> 
> The word in the paper when Squeeze appeared in Delaware a week ago was that
> 

This article reminds me of something I've been meaning to ask for some time.
I have always thought a groups name was a groups name ie Squeeze was Squeeze
but here in New Zealand they appear to be called 'UK Squeeze' ...
presumably to avoid conflict with a locally named group ? ... any one got
any ideas or know of other groups with different names for different
countries

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From: pet@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (paul eng-yi tan)
Subject: All (well most) Seattle bands sound the same
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 06:15:52 GMT

Why is it that all the Seattle bands I've heard (Nirvana,
Pearl Jam, Soundgarden) sound very similar but claim not to?
Isn't there any other kind of music there?

Some might compare it to Manchester, but that's not entirely
accurate. Despite the fact that Manchester has lots of
famous bands, they don't all sound the same. Consider the
diff between the Smiths, Electronic, New Order, Stone Roses,
Happy Mondays, 808 State, Candy Flip; there's a wide variety...
Unlike the Seattle stuff I've heard...

Nirvana seems to me, the only one with real merit out of Seattle...
All this is IMHO of course. Another question... are there any
US bands which are indie dance? I'm not referring to NIN or
SP or any of those, I'm thinking more along the Happy Mondays
etc. The closest I've heard was "Been Caught Stealing" by the
rather interesting Jane's addiction (which is gone now, right?)
Is there a remix cd single of this song?

Paul

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From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: leonard cohen covers list? 
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 00:06:33 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Keywords: Cohen
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In <BswpLC.7I5@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> nimouat@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Nikos Mouat) writes:

>     The Jennifer Warnes album has suzanne on it (I think)

No, it's all Cohen otherwise, but that song isn't on it.

Judy Collins did a nice version of Suzanne early in her career.

Rob T
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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: "You're so vain" - Carley Simon. Who is it about?
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:10:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.201302.10030@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> bur@ultisol.gsfc.nasa.gov (MAC) writes:

>Well I think it is time to ask the experts in a.f.u about this matter.
>The subject line says it all.  So far, people have said Warren Beatty,
>James Taylor, Mick Jagger, and the obligatory "Duh, I though it was about
>me. HAHAHAHA!"
>What the origional poster requested was some sort of proof that Carley
>herself said, at one time or another, that the song was about <insert name here>
>>>maybe USA Today should do a poll. get a neat little pie graph....

>>>well, my vote is for James Taylor....
>>>unofficial count
>>> 
>>>2 for JT
>>>2 for WB
>>>1 for mick
>>Make that 3 for Warren Beatty.  I think it's about him....

And all this time I thought it was about Carl Sagan.  What do I know?

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From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Roxette Information Needed
Date: 16 Aug 92 08:54:40 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB

Brian Wibbenmeyer (bwibbenm@nyx.cs.du.edu) writes:
>1) What is the song How Do You Do! about?  Is it from a new album,
>   and will it be released in the US?

I've seen something about a tour album with eight new tracks. I would
assume that "How do you do" will be on this album. Sorry, don't know
about the US, (who gives a shit? :-) but anything else would be sur-
prising.

>3) I also heard that later in the year Pearls of Passion will be
>   released in the US.  Is that going to happen?

With Roxette's commercial potential at the moment it would be
surprising if "Pearls of Passion" was not released internationally,
although it is less tough in its style, and also weaker than the
other two albums. One song from "Pearls of Passion" was included
on Joyride, namely "Soul Deep". The version on "Joyride" is a
different mix though. (I would suppose that the version on "Joy-
ride" is taking from a remix album which was released some year
after "Pearls of Passion".) Oh, yes, "Soul Deep" is a good song,
but it is one of the beast from "Pearls..".
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From: tmadson@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Todd Madson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Phone numbers/tones in songs...
Date: 21 Aug 92 05:25:02 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

Some idiot kids baseball team that called themselves "Yazoo" made them
change the band name for U.S. distribution as I recall.

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From: jdb@mudshark.att.com (Basil)
Subject: Re: L7
Organization: Bell Laboratories
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:42:52 GMT

In article <14132@auspex-gw.auspex.com>, johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
|> In article <wcsvic.714165060@cunews> wcsvic@alfred.carleton.ca (Victor Kamutzki) writes:
|> |The fact that they get 20 times more press than any of the other
|> |Seattle-esque foxcore bands that sound like them?  Hole, Bratmobile,
|> |Dickless, Brood...
|> 
|> O.K. what in the hell is foxcore?
|> 
|> Another lyrics quiz for old-farts...
|> 
|> I posted this once before but can anyone name the 60's song and artist
|> that used the term L7 and what they meant by it?
|> 
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In the 60's L7 meant square, like you're a square. The term means that
you are not hip. I think it is used in Wooley Bully by Sam the Sham & the
Pharaohs.

			-- Basil


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From: ccuppern@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Cyndi Cuppernell)
Subject: Re: "You're so vain" - Carley Simon. Who is it about?
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 05:38:39 GMT

jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (JOSEPH T CHEW) writes:

>>The subject line says it all.  So far, people have said Warren
Beatty,
>>James Taylor, Mick Jagger...
                ^^^^^^^^^^^

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From: Missi Wilkenfeld <mwilkenf@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Sex Pistols Covers
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 04:11:20 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

Okay here are the responses I got...

Megadeth|Anarchy in the UK|So Far So Good So What
Motley Crue|Anarchy in the UK|A Decade of Decadence
Swinging Erudities|Anarchy in the UK|Pretentious Crapola
Dum Dum Boys|Submission|Dum Dum Boys
Anthrax|God Save the Queen|Armed and Dangerous
Godfathers|Anarchy for the UK|Birth School Work Death.
Mike d'Abo|Pretty Vacant|
The Bollock Brothers|various cuts
Skid Row|Holiday's in the Sun|Stairway to Heavan, Highway to Hell
Frazier Chorus|Anarchy in the UK|Twitch Volume 1 
Frazier Chorus|Anarchy in the UK|"Cloud 8" CD-5 
(The Twitch remix is laid over a late-model New Order beat, and is beautiful.
The one on the Frazier Chorus "Cloud 8" CD is different, more acapella.)

Adrenalin OD|Anarchy|4 Bands Who Could Change the World

Anonymous|Pretty Vacant|Top of the Pops (Hallmark, UK, 1977)
Paul Jones|Pretty Vacant|(Polydor, 1978)
Johnny Rubbish|Living In NW3 4JR (Anarchy In The UK)|(UA, 1978)
The Low Numbers|Belsen Was A Gas|Saturday Night Pogo - a Collection
   of Los Angeles Bands (Rhino, US, 1978)
The Kingswoods|Purty Vacant|(G.R.E.E.N, Australia, 1983)
Frank Sidebottom|Anarchy In The UK|(Regal Zonophone, 1984)
P.J. Proby|Anarchy In The UK|(Savoy, 1985)
Anthrax|Friggin' In The Riggin'|(Island, 1987)
Joan Jett|Pretty Vacant|(Epic, 1990)


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From: chris@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Christian Bartholdsson)
Subject: Re: Pump Up The Volume, where's it from?
Organization: INRIA Sophia Antipolis, France
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 11:23:39 GMT

In article <CMM-RU.1.3.714372581.gajarsky@pilot.njin.net>, Bob Gajarsky <gajarsky@pilot.njin.net> writes:
> I heard that M.A.R.R.S. had sampled and gotten sued by stock aitken
>  waterman for illeagl samples in "pumpp up the volume".  can anyone
>  tell me the original samples for the european version of this song?

They used a *lot* of samples in that song and I do actually have a list 
somewhere of all the original sources.  A sample from SAW's "Roadblock"
was the one that caused trouble.

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From: dap@portal.vpharm.com (David A. Pearlman)
Subject: Re: who sings "no surf in Cleveland USA"
Organization: Vertex Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:20:05 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.191126.15367@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> mxl38@po.CWRU.Edu (Michel Labrousse) writes:
>
>	All I know is that this song has been released in 1979, which is
>kind of late for a surfsong that sounds like an early sixties Beach boys
>song. I'd really want this information because I'm from Cleveland and a
>(wind)surfer. Thanks in advance.
>
>	There is another song I'm interested in, it's called "put your 

It's by the Euclid Beach Band, off their Cleveland International/CBS
album. The entire album was produced by Eric Carmen. The song was issued
as part of the album, on commercial 45, and on a promo-only 12". It also
appeared on an early '80's CBS summer/surf music compilation. It's not
in print on any album currently, as far as I know.

Speaking of Eric Carmen, what has happened to him? He was supposed to be
working on a new album for Arista after the success of the Dirty Dancing
tracks, but that was a LONG time ago?

dap

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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: miscellaneous Arthur Brown info
Keywords: God of Hell Fire Proxima the Prodigy the Who Carl Palmer
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:13:04 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Aug16.015801.18071@bnr.ca> davisonj@bnr.ca (John Davison) writes:
|In article <14031@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
|>...There are at least two other Arthur Brown albums that I've heard [of,
|>besides _The_Crazy_World_of_Arthur_Brown_].  He had a group called "Kingdome
|>Come" and had one eponymously titled album that was actually pretty good
|>progressive rock and other one called "Galactic Zoo" that was just plain
|>wierd [sic].
|
|        This has nothing to do with the "Kingdom Come" band, does it?  More
|information regarding Kingdom[e?] Come (both of them?) would be appreciated.
 
No, Arthur Browns Kingdom Come has nothing to do with the 80's zepplinesqe
version.

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From: ghblee@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Lee Han Boon)
Subject: Re: Jessie/Carley Simon???
Organization: GINTIC Institute of CIM, NTU
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 03:33:24 GMT

craigs@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Stace) writes:
: craigs@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Betsy Brett) writes:
: 
: 
: >A friend of mine asked me about a song called "Jessie."  She wants to know
: >who the artist is since she wants a copy of the song and cannot place it.
: >Someone told her Carley Simon sang it, but she checked all (or most) of
: >Carley Simon's albums and could not find the song.  If anyone has any idea
: >what song I am talking about and who did it, please tell me.  I would include
: >a sample of lyrics, but I cannot remember any.
: 
: As an addendum, I did a bit of research through the "hit book" our campus
: station has, and did indeed find that the song was by Carley Simon.  Question
: is, what's the album?
:
The correct spelling of the title should be "Jesse".  It's from her 1980 
album whose cover features Carly in a blurred sideview pose (with a hat,
I think) against a brownish background.  The title, however, eludes me.

- h.b.-
From: hunt@shy.umd.edu (Brian Hunt)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Sex Pistols Covers
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:28:32 GMT

mwilkenf@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Missi Wilkenfeld) writes:
>Godfathers|Anarchy for the UK|Birth School Work Death.

Can anyone confirm this?  My copy of this record doesn't have
"Anarchy" on it.

Brian Hunt
hunt@ipst.umd.edu
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From: marck@nwu.edu (Jater & Co.)
Subject: Re: Tilford Difbrook Dead!  "Squeeze" (yeah, right) in Joliet
Followup-To: rec.music.misc
Organization: NU ACNS
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:52:48 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.130054.11238@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>,
aa680@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Vern Morrison) wrote:
> In a previous article, koziarz@chinet.chi.il.us (Louis Koziarz) says:
> 
> >Didn't they also play 'Annie Get Your Gun' on the same show?  I had a hunch
> >that this was their final song that day, but now I'm not sure...
> 
>        As Ed McMahon used to say: "You are CORRECT, sir!"

i stand corrected.  oh shit, i'm sitting.  anyway, i plead senility.  i was
only 15 at the time, and i am *so much older* now.

and thank you to nigel-from-the-tropics and scott for informing us of the
whereabouts of Messrs. Difford and Lavis.  i am somewhat relieved to know
that what i saw was not just a has-been Squeezing the last bit of money
from his project, and that we may very well hear more from the Lennon &
McCartney of the Late 70s/Early 80s.

(something tells me i'm gonna regret that last remark.)


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From: speterse%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (soren--Ms. Jackson if you're nasty)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Go Four 3
Date: 19 Aug 92 23:57:09 GMT
Organization: The Erland Cult

In article <1992Aug19.205531.5313@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> aaron@space.ualberta.ca writes:
>Now here's an obscure little band for everyone.  Go Four 3 had two albums out
>of Zulu Records in Vancouver a few years ago--a self-titled EP in '85/'86, and
>an LP entitled "Six Friends" in '87/'88.  (I remember that it came out the same
>time as Weird Al's Polka Party.  Don't ask.)

>Does anyone know if this band is still extant, or what they're doing these
>days?  They were getting good airplay on MuchMusic when they were out...I
>really liked Roxanne Heichert's voice.

I certainly remember them, although not the vocals.  I used to play the
title track from the EP "Go Four 3" on my radio show, a really nifty
pseudo-surf/new wave instrumental.  I think it came out sometime in 1984,
but I'm not positive.  I wouldn't mind finding a copy of the EP myself.


While we're playing this game, does anyone remember/know anything about
the band Here Today?  I think they were from the midwest, and their only
release that I know about was a three song EP on a New Jersey label.  The
A-side was a great song called "Whistle in the Yard", which I haven't 
heard in years, and which I remember as a great example of early-eighties
college/art rock--Siouxsie-ish vocals over driving Cure-meets-REM jangly
music.


And don't even talk to me about Dude!

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