From: raman@cs.utexas.edu (Raman Rajagopalan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: raman rajagopal/jews
Date: 15 Sep 1992 18:40:29 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
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In article <1992Sep8.205642.9007@engr.latech.edu> shalan@engr.latech.edu writes:
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>>	I would like to sympathesize with the Jews for their suffering
>>during the Nazi Holocaust, but that sympathy is diluted somewhat
>>by the Israeli treatment of the Palestinians.  Similarly, I am
>>unable to see how the afore-mentioned individuals have ANY moral
>>high ground to stand on when they are willing to become the
>>oppressor when they stand to benefit.
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>>- raman rajagopalan
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>	You would LIKE TO SYMPATHIZE!!!!!! Incredible. you must be deeply immersed in the PLO papers. 

Please read carefully.  The next line says the "sympathy is diluted somewhat".
Since one cannot dilute ZERO very easily, it follows that I have some
sympathy for the jews who suffered during the holocaust.  I am neither
sending contributions to the PLO nor am I hunting down Nazis.  My level
of sympathy and interest in the matter lies somewhere in between.

You Write:

Most nations are co-operating to the hilt in identifying and arresting nazi's involved in the holocaust and bringing them to justice. This was a crime committed in another country. why should peru, argentina.... be a part of this global search. the answer is that such a crime is horrendous and no nation can forgive or accept any kind of justification that led to such mass destrruction, elimination and savagery.

My response:

I do not support this any more than I support the replacement of existing
mosques with temples.  That's my opinion.  There are statues of limitations
for most if not all crimes.  "Capturing" a man in his seventies or beyond
for a crime committed fifty years before doesn't make sense to me.  That's my
opinion, and I do not wish to attack those who hold other views.  Just
call me a liberal and be done with it.

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>	IF YOU NEED TO OFFER JUSTIFICATION FOR YOUR ARGUMENTS USE EXAMPLES WHERE APPROPRIATE. Don't undermine the pain and suffering that israel has gone through by using them to justify you warped arguments.
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I did not include your whole posting as it was based on the assumption
that I do not beleive that Jews suffered during the holocaust.  

The only thing I say about Israel is that they have mistreated
the palestinians.  You did not disprove this.  You merely argued
that isreali actions were necessary and justified.

Palestinians may have committed some terrorist actions, but once the 
israelis bomb a refugee camp in retaliation, I feel that
they no longer have a claim on "higher morals".  That is the
only point I make or allude to in my article.  All other interpretations
are your own, Mr. Halan.

Oh, as a side point, if you want quotes supporting your argument
that the arabs are anti-israel, get hold of any social studies
text from Dubai in the united arab emirates.  I read through the
4th grade text of a relative when I was there this summer. you'll
definitely get a kick out of that one.  Can you say PROP-A-GANDA?
I was merely amused that they wrote what they did for teaching
to children.  you may become depressed.  you have been warned.

>shivram halan 

peace (on this matter, anyway)

raman rajagopalan

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