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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: problem printing Postscript from PC to NTR
From: Marco Simionato <simion@iveuncc.unive.it>
Date: 21 Aug 92 12:47:24 +0100
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Venezia
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1a2Lines: 22

Sorry for any cross-posting.

I have a 386 with DR DOS 6 connected to an Apple PLW NTR.
If I want to print Postscritp files with TYPE or COPY commands, I easily
get a "Not ready error while writing to device LPT1. Abort, Retry, Cancel"
(I translated back in English the Italian localized string). I think this
has
got something to do with port timeout. If I press R(etry) shortly after
the
message appears, the printing process proceeds normally. I can get
several
such messages, and I have to press R each time. If I don't, the printing
gets
aborted. Now, is this something I have to fix at DOS level or at the
printer
level? How can I set a longer timeout parameter? Or is this perhaps a
"native" 
NRT/DOS problem?

Please reply DIRECTLY to me. Thanks.

Marco Simionato
From: rolfe@ldp.com (Rolfe Tessem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Quadra 950 Power Supply Problems?
Keywords: quadra
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:43:40 GMT
Reply-To: rolfe@ldp.com
Organization: Lucky Duck Productions

In a conversation today with AVID Technology, (a reseller of high-end Macs  
outfitted for non-linear video editing) a representative told me that they  
have stopped delivering Quadra 950s to customers because of numerous and  
recurring problems with power supplies.  They said Apple has resumed shipping  
them Quadra 900s and they are delivering Quadra 900s to customers until the  
problem is resolved.

Everyone is aware that Quadra 950s are in short supply, but this is the first  
time I'd heard this reason.  Can anyone offer confirmation or other  
information relating to this problem?
-- 
Rolfe Tessem				Lucky Duck Productions
rolfe@ldp.com				New York City
(212) 463-0029				(212) 463-7049 fax
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: lstein@genome.wi.edu (Lincoln Stein)
Subject: Re: Acclerating a Mac II
Organization: Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:01:28 GMT

> 
> Also, can anyone tell me the difference between DayStar PowerCaches
> and PowerCards?  There is an ad in MacWorld for a sale on the latter,
> 40MHz '030 for the price of the PCache 33MHz '030, so I'm wondering
> what the cache here is... Also, are there other brands of reasonably
> cheap but effective accelerators out there for my II I should know of?
> 

The PowerCard is the early version of the PowerCache.  Unlike the
PowerCache, the PowerCard is not "universal".  There is a different
model of PowerCard for each model Macintosh.  With the PowerCache, you
just buy a cheap ($45) adapter board to move the card from one model
to another.

The PowerCard uses smaller-capacity SRAM chips for its cache, so
physically it is much larger, consisting of a two-card combination.
The PowerCache is a single card.

The PowerCard is incompatible with NuBus cards that act as bus
masters.  These include certain Quickdraw accelerator boards.

Finally, the PowerCache is 10-20% faster than the PowerCard for any
given clock speed because of improved caching code.

========================================================================
Lincoln Stein		
lstein@genome.wi.edu		Whitehead Institute, Cambridge, MA
lstein@hstbme.mit.edu		Brigham & Women's Hospital, Boston MA
========================================================================
From: sharris@chopin.udel.edu (Scott A Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: What to do with 256K SIMMS?
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:32:53 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <DDL683.92Aug11214338@esther.albany.edu> ddl683@csc.albany.edu (Dreaming) writes:
>   In article <par-110892162810@mac124.ugadm.nwu.edu>, par@nwu.edu (Pete
>   Rodriguez) wrote:
>
>   > Are 256K SIMMS good for anything?  I've got 10 of these things just
>   > collecting dust in a closet.  Can anyone think of anything to do with these
>   > things?
>
>They make great-looking keychains.
>
I'll second that.  And it always draws attention, people think
you're some real smart techno wizard.

-- 
Scott Harris
sharris@chopin.udel.edu
From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: need advice on Mac IIsi simm upgrade
Date: 15 Aug 92 21:45:29 GMT
Reply-To: geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Amos Tuck School

In <118440002@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com> marki@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com (Mark Ikemoto) writes:

>I'm a novice Mac user and I just bought a Mac IIsi.  It had 5 Mb of
>memory in it but I want to upgrade it to at least 8 Mb.  I've read
>the manuals that came with the Mac but they aren't clear as to what
>combinations of simms I can install to get the 8 Mb.

[questions deleted but answered below]

OK, the first thing you need to understand about the IIsi is that there is
1 MB of RAM permanently attached to the mother board. ie: a 5 MB IIsi has
1 MB on the board and 1 MB in each of the four memory SIMM slots.

So, if your target memory is 8 MB you really have to head for 9 MB. The
IIsi has ONE SIMM bank so all four of the SIMM slots must have identical
RAM SIMMs. (That's straight from Tech Note #176.)

So, to get 9 MB you have to put 2 MB SIMMs in all four slots.

Now, 2 MB SIMM prices SUCK around here so I would seriously consider using
4 MB SIMMs and upgrading to 17 MB of total memory, but that's up to you.

-Geoff

--
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_____________________________________________________________________________
 Cerebus for Dictator in 1992!!    |    He doesn't love you, he just wants
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From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Mac II differences
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:49:36 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

jtgorman@cs.arizona.edu (J. Taggart Gorman) writes:


>  Didya notice this :

>	II_x
>	IIcx
>	IIci
>	IIfx
>	IIsi
>	IIvi
>	IIvx
>	  ^

>  It's in alphabetical order!  (First letter, with _ being lowest.)  Sure,
>Quadras, Performs, compact Macs and all other designs fall out, but I think I
>have a clue why the IIsi has an 's' and the new machines have a 'v'...

    Did you also notice that Apple suddenly reversed their use of the i
and x suffixes? It used to go IIcx < IIci, but they seem to be moving in
the other direction now where IIvi < IIvx.

--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info
		   "A clear case of curare poisoning
	       of one of her Majesty's Cold-Cream Guards"
						   -- Durlock Holmes
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: eric@homebase.vistachrome.com (Eric Brunson)
Subject: Re: Help! Stubborn Disk Won't Spin Up 1 Last Time
Organization: Vista-Chrome Incorporated
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:14:34 GMT

minsky@media.mit.edu (Marvin Minsky) writes:

>In article <1992Aug16.182405.16395@cbfsb.cb.att.com> mstov@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (michael.p.stovsky) writes:
>>Help!
>>
>>OK, here's my question.  Does anyone out there know a way to start up a disk
>>one last time?  I don't care if it won't start a second time, I jusst need to
>>get the data off & then I plan to throw it away.  (Semi destructive methods
>>are OK, as long as the data can be moved.)
>>
>>The disk is a Seagate ST277N.  It's a 60 MB disk, that was set up internally
>>in a Mac II.  Its replacement is a 105 MB Quantum.  I still have all the 
>>cables etc. & am willing to do most reasonable sounding things.  

>Yes.  I once did it for that very Seagate.  Hold it free with its
>cables and give it a brisk *rotary* twist on the obvious rotary axis.
>It might start.  Much more effective than linear whapping.

>(Also, there was some talk of software for tweaking the drive of the
>stick-bearing HD40s on older MACs.  Dunno where to find it.

>Cheers.

In conjuction with this you might try turning the drive upside down.  The 
bearings on the lower side wear faster than those on the upper and can
add just that little bit of resistance that keeps the drive from spinning
up.  Good luck.


-- 
Eric "Ra" Brunson      |
eric@vistachrome.com   |     These opinions are mine alone, but
brunson@math.fsu.edu   |   they could be yours for a low monthly fee.  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: sullivan@athena.mit.edu (Jason R Sullivan)
Subject: Apple's New Prices
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 22:38:39 GMT

My new school price list shows the price of the Quadra 950 increasing
from $5155 to $5710.  Can anyone confirm this!  And if so, why?

Jason Sullivan
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: IIsi vs new Macs - should I wait?
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:15:50 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

svsolanalos@pro-freedom.cts.com (Sheldon Nalos) writes:

>>Keep one more thing in mind, the IIsi and the IIci can run System 6.x
>>(the si can only run 6.07 and later) while the new machine will only be
>>able to run system 7 and later.  This may be a disadvantage for some
>>people.

>The reason it could be a disadvantage is that some mega speed freaks who
>have no use for System 7's GREAT features use System 6.x since it is
>faster.

    This is not a disadvantage. It is a matter of personal choice. I'm
something of a speed freak myself(which is why I really can't stand
using MS Word and Excel at times), but it is for those "GREAT features"
that I use System 7.

--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info
		   "A clear case of curare poisoning
	       of one of her Majesty's Cold-Cream Guards"
						   -- Durlock Holmes
From: long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Maxtor 213
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:50:44 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


 In my quest for a second drive, the APS Maxtor 213 ($569, external) has come
 up. Anyone got it? What do you think for noise, speed?

 Thanks, as always,

Richard C. Long			long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com
			  -or-	...!decwrl!mcntsh.enet.dec.com!long   		
			  -or-	long%mcntsh.dec@decwrl.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Subject: Re: Q700 vs. 950
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 22:18:08 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <John_Shepardson.esh-210892105811@moose.slac.stanford.edu> John_Shepardson.esh@qmail.slac.stanford.edu (John Shepardson) writes:
>> The 950 does 16-bit graphics on a 21" color monitor, the 700
>> only does 8-bit. Else they're about the same. The 700 comes
>> with 512 kB VRAM, the 950 comes with 1 MB.
>
>The 950 supports 16 bit mode on any size monitor ( I think only 1 meg is
>needed for the 13 & 16"). The 700/900 did not have 16 bit mode at all.

They have 16 bit mode (thousands of colors) on the 13" and 16"
monitors, but you need 2MB for it (and then you have 24-bit mode too)

Doesn't the Q950 support 19" color monitors whereas the Q700/900 do not?
-- 
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From: gt0299d@prism.gatech.EDU (Curtis N. Sayre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Good handheld scanners
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:13:42 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I am currently considering getting a decent handheld scanner for some 
graphics work along with some light-duty OCR work.  Right now I'm considering
getting the lightningscan 256.  Then I read a review of the Typist+graphics,
and am considering getting that instead.  From all acounts I've heard, the
original Typist was pretty lousy, but the typist+ is supposed to be a lot
better.  Any comments as to which of these would be the better buy?

thanks

Curt

-- 
Curtis N. Sayre
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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From: mssmith@afterlife.ncsc.mil (M. Scott Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: AppleCare Prices?
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:00:00 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

Hello..

  My 1-year warranty on my Mac IIfx system is nearing expiration, and I'd
like to buy AppleCare.  But before I do, I was wondering if anyone had
recently got it (for my configuration or a similar one), and I'd like to
see what prices you paid.
  A few questions: does the price for AppleCare go down if you get more
than one year, and also, does Apple fix the price of AppleCare or do
dealers set it themselves?  Unfortunately, none of the local computer stores
around here carry AppleCare (although some honor it), so I haven't been
able to ask the local dealer.
   Any comments would be appreciated.

Thanks,

M. Scott Smith
--|mssmith@afterlife.ncsc.mil
From: madler@vssad.enet.dec.com (Michael C. Adler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Tape backup
Date: 12 Aug 92 04:02:28 GMT
Reply-To: madler@vssad.enet.dec.com (Michael C. Adler)
Distribution: na
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


I'm trying to puzzle through the morass of tape backup systems available.
Can someone recommend a reasonably priced drive holding on the order
of 250MB?

Are any of the QIC 250MB drives available using SCSI on the Mac?

I'm under the impression that any backup program purporting to write
to SCSI tape will write to any tape drive, so the software and
drive don't have to come from the same company.  Is this impression
reasonable?

thanks,
-Michael
From: John Werner <werner@soe.berkeley.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Info wanted: full-page display for LCII
Date: 13 Aug 1992 18:36:22 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley School of Education
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tol7mac19.soe.berkeley.edu
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1

We're about to buy an LC II for some software testing, but we also
want to use it for word processing.  (Lots of word processsing:
writing a dissertation.)  Can anyone recommend a full-page
(portrait) display that will work with the LC II's built-in video? 
I know Apple's doesn't, but I'm hoping there's a third-party one
that does.

I'd also appreciate info on displays that require a video card,
since we'll probably get one of those if we can't find one that
works with the built-in video.

--
John Werner                         werner@soe.berkeley.edu
UC Berkeley School of Education     510-642-9651
From: msi@ESD.3Com.COM (Mark Isfeld)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: New IIvx and IIvi...why on EARTH 16mhz?
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:22:41 GMT

an780@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Travis Grundke) writes:


>Just to add to the anarchy here on the IIvx and IIvi (and which processor
>which one uses), I've heard 32mhz and 16mhz....my question is: Why on EARTH
>would Apple goto a 16mhz chip...I'd think the MINIMUM they'd use would be
>20mhz!

First off, I it sounds like you recognize that speeds above 20 Mhz generally
oustrip the DRAM speed available, and  require either wait states 
(which minimize real processor throughput increases) or increasingly 
sophisticated memory systems (like interleaved memories or caches).  
So systems at 20Mhz or slower are MUCH cheaper to build, and not just 
because the processor chip costs less.

Now, given that whay would you use 16Mhz instead of 20?

One possible reason has to do with design leveraging.  I still don't have
exact specs for these machines but they sound awfully similar.  Its possible
that they use EXACTLY the same chip set (designed by Apple).  If they do,
then the easiest way to support two speeds is to make them multiples of
each other.  In other words the guts of the machines (the memory controller)
probably works at 32 Mhz in both machines, and in one they divide the
processor clock in two to get 16 Mhz.  THis keeps everything synchonous
and relatively trivial to implement both speed options.  The slower 
machine doesn't need a cache and uses a much slower processor so it costs 
significantly less.

OK, you say, why not run the guts at 40 Mhz and the processor at 20, or
everything at 20.  The answer is that a highly integrated system will have
multiple frequencies required for various purposes, and changing the
relationship of these frequencies adds a lot of complexity and logic.  For
instance the Video logic has to run at display speeds regardless of the
processor speed.  Ditto for the Serial interface, and the SCSI (sort of).
So leaving the video at one clock rate and running the processor at another
may require more crystals, and definitely requires lots more synchonization
between logic blocks.  This either adds wait states to both the fast
and slow systems, or adds complexity, debugging time and slows time to market.

Of course I don't know the internal design of these systems, I'm only
guessing at one reason this frequency might have been chosen.  I'm sure
there are others including some of those mentioned, like market positioning
(its easy for sales people to claim one is twice as fast as the other).

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| msi@NSD.3Com.com                     
| 408-764-5167
From: John_Shepardson.esh@qmail.slac.stanford.edu (John Shepardson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Q700 vs. 950
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:49:41 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: slac

> The 950 does 16-bit graphics on a 21" color monitor, the 700
> only does 8-bit. Else they're about the same. The 700 comes
> with 512 kB VRAM, the 950 comes with 1 MB.

The 950 supports 16 bit mode on any size monitor ( I think only 1 meg is
needed for the 13 & 16"). The 700/900 did not have 16 bit mode at all.

-------------------------------------------
John_Shepardson.esh@qmail.slac.stanford.edu
From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PowerBook 145 2/80
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:19:19 GMT
Reply-To: geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Amos Tuck School

In <GERLACH.92Aug13092043@greyrock.greyrock.mso.colostate.edu> gerlach@greyrock.mso.colostate.edu (Scott Gerlach) writes:

>Why would you want a machine with only 2MB RAM?  I don't even use very
>high-powered software on my Mac, and 4MB is just barely enough.
>Buying a 2MB PB 145 is like begging to pay for a RAM upgrade within
>the next 2-6 months.  4MB should be the minimum configuration for all
>new machines IMHO.

You're totally right, you just haven't done your homework.

A PowerBook 145 4/80 (for instance) is a nice minimum RAM setup.
But what if you want 8MB? You have to pull out that 2MB expansion card that
it came with to make room for the 6MB expansion card you need to get to
8MB.
OK, now you have an 8MB PowerBook and a useless 2MB expansion card. What a
waste.

I bought a PowerBook 140 2/80 and instantly upgraded to 8MB without
wasting a card or my bosses budget.

I think that PowerBooks should come like the Quadra 700, with RAM on the
motherboard and all the slots empty. Let the user decide what
configuration they want. Sure a 2MB PowerBook is begging for a RAM upgrade
but why should users who want 6 or 8MB have to pay for a 2MB expansion
card they won't even use?

-Geoff
--
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From: stevewi@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Steve Witten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: HP DeskWriter C
Date: 15 Aug 92 15:06:34 GMT
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA

Yeah, I've seen lots of 'em.

Mostly not at work though.  It's been out long enough for the street
price to start beating HP employee discount.  Check your local dealer.

===============================================================================
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Network Test Division           ...!hplabs!hpspd!stevewi
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From:  (jmhodapp@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PB Information Summary *QUESTION***
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:19:04 GMT
Organization: haphazard, at best

In article <8610013@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, dlc@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Dennis Clark) writes:
> 
>   Thanks for the updates and Rumor mongering.  But I have one comment, please
> don't use tabs for table making - your careful formatting is a complete hash
> when I read it...
> 
> DLC
> 
Where is this thing.  Is it the pseudo-FAQ which was floating around a few
weeks ago?  If it's not, could I get a copy?? Thanks much in advance.

Jon  jmhodapp@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu
===============================
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.hardware:15603 misc.forsale.computers:30426
From: timm@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Coffee_Junkie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,misc.forsale.computers
Subject: Mac IIcx + Rocket (with sep. prices)...
Date: 20 Aug 92 02:46:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: void.timm.714278790
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I'm still getting a lot of questions about selling these seperately,
and I'll do so provided I can get buyers for both:

Mac IIcx 2/40 CPU, Keyboard, Mouse, Apple 8-bit color card,
FDHD Disk Drive

$1700, will make 5M for $1800

2M Radius Rocket (full '040 with FPU)

$1200, will make 5M for $1300

Send offers to this account.  Oh, and I won't sell the Rocket
for $500, so don't bother sending me those offers again :o).

Both guaranteed to work when you get them.
-- 
Tim McClarren     | "...a bajillion brilliant Jobsian lithium licks."
timm@ncsa.uiuc.edu|
(217)244-0015     |

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From: ph@physiology.oxford.ac.uk (Patrick Haggard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: What to do with 256K SIMMS?
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:57:56 GMT
Organization: Physiology Department, Oxford University, Oxford, UK.

Someone asked "   > Are 256K SIMMS good for anything?  "


Apparently they can be used in some Atari machines.  I guess that
means the neighbours kids could speed up their games with your SIMMS.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: rjacks@austlcm.sps.mot.com (rodney jacks)
Subject: Re: Maxtor 213
Organization: Motorola Inc, Austin, Texas
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:37:22 GMT

In article <1583@sousa.ltn.dec.com> long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long) writes:
>
> In my quest for a second drive, the APS Maxtor 213 ($569, external) has come
> up. Anyone got it? What do you think for noise, speed?
>
> Thanks, as always,
>
>Richard C. Long			long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com
>			  -or-	...!decwrl!mcntsh.enet.dec.com!long   		
>			  -or-	long%mcntsh.dec@decwrl.enet.dec.com

I bought one from APS for $599 since I needed a drive at that was
the only kind they had in stock.  Its real quiet inside an
SE/30 but I also think it is slow.  Maxtor has a new 
model coming out (the 7213?) that is suppose to be much faster
(bigger cache?) that the existing 213 and smaller too.  APS 
received a shipment and sent them back to Maxtor when the 
found a bug in the microcode.  APS is advertising the internal 
version for $499.  When I heard about the faster drive, someone
at APS said I could send back the 213 under the 30day mbg, but
that would have meant I would have been without a drive until
the new ones came back.  Too bad.

-Rodney
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