From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history,soc.culture.soviet
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Subject: Re: The worst kind of simpleminded "kacik-drivel" imaginable.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 19:49:40 EST
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
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In article <visser.721979115@convex.convex.com> visser@convex.com (Lance Visser) writes:

+>"Us"? So you figured out "you" were a product of human ignorance. 
+>After unsuccessful bloody uprisings in 1895 (25,000 Muslim women, 
+>children and elderly people were ruthlessly slaughtered by the 
+>Armenians in Zeytun) and 1909, the revolutionaries' chance came in 
+>1914, when Russia went to war with the Ottoman Empire. 

>	The Ottoman Empire went to War with Russia, not the other

As usual, it is a blatant lie. Are you claiming that this text of it
is incorrect? If so, please provide us with your corrections.

Source #1: "U.S. Library of Congress: 'Bristol Papers' - General Correspondence
Container #34.

 "While the Dashnaks were in power they did everything in the world to keep the
  pot boiling by attacking Kurds, Turks and Tartars; by committing outrages
  against the Moslems; by massacring the Moslems; and robbing and destroying
  their homes;....During the last two years the Armenians in Russian Caucasus
  have shown no ability to govern themselves and especially no ability to 
  govern or handle other races under their power."

Source #2: Quoted by General Hamelin in a letter to the High Commissioner,
February 2, 1919, in the official history, "Les Armees Francaises au Levant,"
vol. 1, p. 122.

 "They [Armenians] burned and destroyed many Turkish villages as punitive
  measures in their advance and practically all Turkish villages in their
  retreat from Marash."

Source #3: John Dewey, "The Turkish Tragedy", The New Republic, Volume 40, 
November 12, 1928, pp. 268-269.

 "...that they [Armenians] boasted of having raised an army of one hundred and 
 fifty thousand men to fight a civil war, and that they burned at 
 least a hundred Turkish villages and exterminated their population."

Extracts from a letter dated December 11, 1983, published in the San
Francisco Chronicle, as an answer to a letter that had been published
in the same journal under the signature of one B. Amarian.

 "...We have first hand information and evidence of Armenian atrocities
  against our people (Jews)...Members of our family witnessed the 
  murder of 148 members of our family near Erzurum, Turkey, by Armenian 
  neighbors, bent on destroying anything and anybody remotely Jewish 
  and/or Muslim. Armenians should look to their own history and
  see the havoc they and their ancestors perpetrated upon their neighbors...
  Armenians were in league with Hitler in the last war, on his premise 
  to grant them self government if, in return, the Armenians would 
  help exterminate Jews...Armenians were also hearty proponents of
  the anti-Semitic acts in league with the Russian Communists. Mr. Amarian!
  I don't need your bias."  

  Signed Elihu Ben Levi, Vacaville, California.

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)

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