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From: smurray@mta.ca
Subject: Re: The New Ultimate Warrior
Reply-To: smurray@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:34:49 GMT

In article <4081@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu>, 6500poln@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Harry M. Dolny) writes:
>In article <ku6danINN8qh@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> Fuzzy@colonel.Corp.Sun.COM (Michael Shames/Contractor) writes:
>
>>In article <4069@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu> 6500poln@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Harry M. Dolny) writes:
>>>If Jake doesn't jump, it will be hard to explain how the
>>>UW and Sid are fueding when both were put out of wrestling
>>>by Jake, and neither sought revenge.
>
>>	when did jake fued with sid ???
>>	was that in the pre wwf days of both ????
>
>
>>		and snake vs. sid, if snake is allowed to wrestle, would
>>	be fun. snake is good enough to carry juicetice and actually
>>	make it belivable ( HH vs. sid was belivable too. but only because
>>	they really were about equal in wrestling ability).
>
>Snake and Sid had an aborted fued before Sid got injured before the
>Survivor Series last year. The injury was explained to marks as
>being Jake's fault, and because Sid was out, Vince had to persuade
>Savage to come back into the ring.
>

Does anyone know what really happened to Sid?  

>The point I'm trying to make is that any mark who remembers the Warrior
>has to remember that Jake "almost killed him" before he left. To
>have either UW or Sid forget about Jake completely strains 
>credibility for even the marks.
>

It is intereting that neither Slim Jim nor Sid got their hands on the
Snake.  The Warrior left just as a string of matches between the two were
being prepared, and Sid hurt his arm just before he and the Snake got
really involved.  When he returned he was a heel.

>By the way, one more word about Jake. Most that posted pointed out
>how Jake loses every fued now. If you look at the outcome of a
>fued as who does the most damage to whom, then Jake clearly
>killed Savage. Jake ruined the wedding reception, he slapped
>Elizabeth, he had the cobra bite Savage, and DDT'd him three times
>on a PPV. Savage winning a string of matches and breaking his nose
>doesn't compare.
>
>Does anybody else view a fued this way?
>

I agree with you that Snake won that feud as far as damage inflicted. 
Savage was too preoccupied with the 1...2...3.  Now, that is how matches
are lost and won, but does a 1...2...3 make up for a ruined wedding, a
cobra bite, a slap of his wife, a string of DDTs, and a chair assault?
I dont think so.

>Trust me,

No, no.  Trussssssst me.

>
>Mike Dolny

Sean A.M.

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From: joepet@engin.umich.edu (Joe Petrow)
Subject: Re: Disputing The "Stable Champ" Theory
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 00:00:08 EDT
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In article <ventura.703478935@camelot>, ventura@camelot.bradley.edu (Brian Wawczak) writes:
> 
> In <5gp+LRA@engin.umich.edu> joepet@engin.umich.edu (Joe Petrow) writes:
> 
> >Someone once said that what Vince really wants is a "stable" champ who will
> >dominate over the Federation.  The following is a list of all champions who
>                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >have won (read: NOT just "successfully defended" a title by not being pinned
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >or submitting) a title match on a PPV:
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
> > 
> >Demolition
> >Rockin Robin
> >The Ultimate Warrior
> 
> >This is it.  Look it up if you don't believe me.  Only three champions winning
> >title matches in five years and you're telling me Vince believes in stability?
> 
> I'm sorry, C Taylor, but I think that the underlined text clearly states that
> this was a list for ALL PAY-PER-VIEWS. I took Joe's last statement about the
> past five years as a mistake in defining how long Titan Sports has actually 
> broadcast PPV's on tv.....
> 
> Anyways, Hawk Harrelson and Tom Paciorek are the greatest announcers in the
> world, other than Tony Schiavone, of course.....
> 
> --
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>   "I'm a 60 minute man, and I'm ALL NIGHT LONG! WHOOOOOO!!" -Slick Ric Flair
> 
One more time...SINCE WRESTLEMANIA III (happy Brian?) NOT INCLUDING
WRESTLEMANIA III ITSELF, I defy you to tell me one other champion than the
three I outlined.
From: ottoh3@CFSMO.Honeywell.COM (Otto Heuer #3)
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Subject: Re: Luger in BB competition
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:23:28 GMT
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Tim Wall writes:

> Tony Atlas was in the WWF and participated in the 1991 Royale Rumble
> under an African gimmic. (the charecters name eludes me at this time)

Saba Simba (or something like that) is what I heard on the net.

I *still* haven't seen him wrestle as a heel...

> After he was released from the WWF, he returned to the ICW in a mask
> under a unknown charecter called the Black Scorpion. 

Geez... they actually stole the "Black Scorpion" name from WCW.

Hard to believe WCW didn't trademark the name.  :-)

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From: c9107143@cc.newcastle.edu.au (SNACK ON DANGER DINE ON DEATH)
Subject: Papa Shango??????????????????????????
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 04:20:04 GMT

could someone tell me who papa shango is please???
  the first time I heard of him was at mania 8 who is he????
 thanks in advance
 Kurgen
ps please e-mail me
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From: visser@convex.com (Lance Visser)
Subject:  WM8 and Tito the Matador
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 01:13:26 GMT
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	When was the last time that Tito/Matador won a match at a
	wrestlemania?  I know he has been at them all, but I dont
	remember him doing all that well in any of the matches.


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From: cayanc@vccsouth25.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Andres Cayanan)
Subject: Centerfold
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 00:34:11 GMT


  I might have missed any posts on this, but what about the centerfold Flair
 was supposed to show off during WM VIII?  Was he supposed to reveal it then
 or am I really ignorant, and my facts aren't straight?

cayanc@rpi.edu
AXP
From: Mike.Steiner@p1.f207.n143.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: WM8: Savage - Flair a shoot?
Date: 11 Apr 92 03:47:03 GMT
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Michael Shames-contractor writes about "Re: WM8: Savage - Flair a shoot?" to
All  [10 Apr 92 17:46]

MS>  sorry and embarassed to admit my ignorance,  whainhell is a 
MS> "shoot"? 

Ignoring the script and going at it for real.  sometimes the booker will tell
a wrestler to make it a shoot, in order to teach another wrestler a lesson.
 
/207 143/207
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From: Fuzzy@colonel.Corp.Sun.COM (Michael Shames/Contractor)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: GWF Update 4/6
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:09:07 GMT
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In article <1992Apr6.124231.1744@memstvx1.memst.edu> ussmith@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
>GWF Update
>Just a few tidbits...
>Nightmare Danny Davis is the GWF Light Hvwt. Champion ( I think that's
>what it's called.)
	
	any relation to the dangerous danny davis who was the ref @ wm8
	8 man tag?

	does VMcM let his refs wrestle elsewhere ?
	does he care ????
		
		mike shames
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From: shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Richard Barry Shrum)
Subject: Re: Please ignore this message, test only
Keywords: test
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr, Calif.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 21:01:43 GMT

In article <ppelrine.6@px1.stfx.ca> ppelrine@px1.stfx.ca (Peter Pelrine) writes:
>please ignore this message



OK

    ****Rick****



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From: behm@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (BEHM CHRISTOPHER JOSEPH)
Subject: Re: FAN vs MARK vs Mutant
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:48:38 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.211232.29235@cc.gatech.edu> duggan@cc.gatech.edu (Rick Duggan) writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.202754.16830@s1.gov> lkn@s1.gov (Leland K. Neely) writes:
>>
>>In a recent post, Rick Duggan mentioned the term "Smart Fans"
>>and John Price  referred to "Smart Marks," subsequently
>>Sean Ryan (I think) mentions "Mutants" (I think, I was ROTFL
>>at this point!!)  
>>
>>My point: Lets create a "scale" of awareness of the business.
>>
>>Let's see we have: (Examples of each removed to avoid flame wars!!)
>>Useless posters :-) :-)
>>Total Marks
>>Marks
>>Mutants
>>Smart Marks
>>Smart Fans
>>Insiders
>>
>>Hummm...  SO how about some opinions?  Personally, I dislike
>>Smart Marks per sea, BUT; we need a term to refer to people with
>>half a clue. (or so.)  Lets keep it simple and fun.
>
>Well, certainly "Useless posters" are lower on the food chain
>than "Total Marks" ;-).
>

	And of course, the lowest of the low , so low as to be
	almost off any scale would have to be;

			A Str*mer. 


'				John Mastrangelo
				ice@ntia.its.bldr.nist.gov
From: Mike.Steiner@p1.f207.n143.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Space Mountain?????
Date: 14 Apr 92 04:43:38 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:143/207.1 - Sunnyvale Fido Conn, Sunnyvale CA


11mwarner@galluj writes about "Space Mountain?????" to All  [13 Apr 92 17:50]

1> Pardon my ignorance here, but what exactly is this Space Mountain 
1> that Ric Flair always refers to? My buddy from England on the 
1> MUD just asked me and I didn't really have a good enough answer 
1> for him.

Space Mountain is a ride at DisneyWorld.  However, Flair means having sexual
intercourse with himself.
 
/207 143/207
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From: voyager@treff.zer.de (Roland Gorisch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: THE WARRIOR IS BACK!!!
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:45:05 GMT

Hi Guys,

in Germany we had - for the first time - wrestlemania live on television,
and not even pay-tv...quite nice, eh?

Because I have never seen Wrestlemania LIVE before, I cannot tell if it was a
good one - from my point of view, wrestlemania VI (?) was the best ever
because of the ultimate match between hogan and the warrior (okay, they are
both no great technicians, but their show is the best!).

Nevertheless, when - during the Hogan-Justice Match, the Warrior hit the
scene, woahhhh!!!!! 


		THE WARRIOR IS BACK - PREPARE FOR DESTRUCTION, SID!
		===================================================


Hope you apologize my emotional statement,

Roland


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From: kuras@aidev.enet.dec.com (Joe Kuras)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Hey there Tonto, who is that masked man?
Date: 9 Apr 92 12:42:03 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


If you look closely at the album cover for Abbey Road, you will see an
outline of the Ultimate Warriors face mask formed by the branches in the
trees.   A license plate of 1 of the parked cars also bears, in fine print, 
the word "DeSalvo".   ;-)

On a more serious note, yes, that was the balding, bespectacled Chief Jay
Strongbow at ringside at Wrestlemania VII.  He's at many of the house shows,
as a stage hand (no, I'm not implying he was ever a ring-boy). ;-)

As for the father of little Amanda Ultimate Warrior, again, you'll just have
to look at that Abbey Road album cover. The clue is there, waiting to be
discovered!!
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From: <ACPS7032@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: WM8 Comments...

who the hell is STEVE DIsalvo ----- does he look like the UW or something??
From: mnka_cif@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Matthew Kaufman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: [WCW] Kip Frey on WCW Saturday Night
Date: 12 Apr 92 05:22:06 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <9204120026.AA18903@rachael.CFSMO.Honeywell.COM> ottoh3@CFSMO.Honeywell.COM (Otto Heuer #3) writes:


>The show was pretty boring this week.  

>The only thing worth noting is that Kip say "foreign object"
>instead of "international object".  Does this mean that Ted
>Turner finally decided it was okay to say "foreign" in some
>instances or did Kip screw up?

>		--Otto "Cactus Hack" Heuer


I doubt it was a screw up. I mean the show is taped a Ted 
Could have ordered a dubbing over of the tape.  Oops is this
the WWF only Vince would have thought of that.

Also Ted has been very hands off with Fry at the helm.
Meaning Fry has control over WCW TV shows.

Just my

        -2
$ 2 x 10

Matt
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From: sas5_ss@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Scott Schneier)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Westlemania 8 & the Ultimate Warrior!!!!
Date: 6 Apr 92 05:34:52 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

First of all, the Warrior is back and it is Jim Hellwig. It isn't the Tornado
or Jim's long lost brother or any of that BS. I, being one of the biggest
Warrior fans, lnow this because you can recognize his face and body, even thoughit's smaller. This just shows the WWF's cracking down on steroids. Hogan's 
smaller and so is the Warrior. His shorter hair looks stupid but I'm glad he's
back.
Savage sould be the last person to hold the belt. After viewing the pin again, 
he pulled Flairs tights right in front of Hebner. Hebner could see this in full
view. Anyone else notice Hebner's evil twin (and fatter) brother go to the
ring with the other officials, trying to stop Liz. This is the same man who
DiBiase paid to get Andre the belt from Hogan. I'm waiting for a Tuesday in
Toronto or something for Ric to get the belt back from Savage. 
While watching the Hogan-Justice match ending again, after Justice kicked out
of the leg drop of doom, Whippleman came in, Hogan pushed the ref away and then
the ref rang the bell. It looked like Hogan was getting DQ'ed for shoving the 
ref. Whippleman did nothing to intefere. It was just kiss Hogan's ass and bring
back the Warrior day. Why the hell would a no name like Papa Shango have any
interest in "helping" Justice. Justice was kicking Hogan's ass the way he
should have. Wasn't it strange the way Piper didn't even struggle while Hart
was pinning him ? Wasn't it also merciful of the WWF to end Owen Hart's match
so quick.
	LONG LIVE THE WARRIOR !!! HIS SECOND WORLD TITLE REIGN IS LESS THAN
			      ONE YEAR AWAY!!!
		     	      Scott Schneier
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From: cg@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (charles.gavinelli)
Subject: Absence from the Net
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:16:35 GMT


	For those of you to whom I owe respones to regarding
Arezzi's convention and helping him out, Arezzi's
address, etc... the info will be slow in comming as my
wife gave birth to our first child (Baby girl, born
04/03/92).

	I did, however, have the time to join Arezzi's
booster club in her name (Gold Membership), making
her the youngest booster club member to date at 2 days old.
I have to catch up on a lot of stuff and it may be a week
until I'm back.

					Charlie
From: ussmith@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: GWF Update 4/6
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:42:31 GMT
Organization: Memphis State University

GWF Update

Just a few tidbits...

Terry Funk will be appearing in the GWF in the near future. He will
supposedly act as a "door guard" during a cage match.

Nightmare Danny Davis is the GWF Light Hvwt. Champion ( I think that's
what it's called.)

Craig Johnson has been replaced by David Webb, formerly of the USWA,
as announcer for both the ESPN and syndicated shows.


Rick
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Date: Monday, 13 Apr 1992 12:47:06 EDT
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Warrior Comments


I have to agree with Dean.  I've always liked the Warrior, even
though he wasn't very good as a wrestler/brawler/interview.  I'm
not sure why, but I did like him.

And it does look like he's done some cardiovascular work since
Summer Slam.  He does seem to have more endurance.  However, we
won't *know* until his first non-squash match (which probably
means Summer Slam.  Oh, I *love* the WWF....)
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From: foleye@xanth.CS.ORST.EDU (The Stilt Man)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Quiz #2( NWA)
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:59:40 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University

In article <1992Apr16.124828.1132@ucbeh.san.uc.edu> novotndj@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
>In article <0dv57IC00awF49_4gz@andrew.cmu.edu>, sw36+@andrew.cmu.edu (Scott Michael White) writes:
>> Quiz #2
>> for NWA fans\
>> 
>> 1.    What was Kevin Sullivans group called consisting of Mike Rotundo
>> and Rick Steiner
>> 2.     Name 6 wrestlers who were part of The Four Horseman and the
>> original manager of them?
>> 3.     Besides the Koloffs name another Russian who wrestled for the NWA
>> 4.      Name 5 men who have beaten Ric Flair for The NWA HC 
>> 5.       Name the tag team that came to the ring with the Beastie Boys
>> song (You have to fight for ......) as their intro song
>
>1   Kevin Sullivans group was the Varsity Culb.

Real Men thought this was a great combo.
Real Fans also had some admiration for them.
Loonies like Sullivan's antics these days better.
Marks hated the Varsity Club (assuming they remember them).

>2   4-horseman were Tully Blanchard, Rick Flair, Arn Anderson, Olle Anderson
>       Barry Windam and Lex Lugar  Manager J.J. Dillin.

Real Men liked Lex Luger.
Real Fans liked Flair, and would remind you that Slick Ric's first name doesn't
	have a "k", Ole is spelled with one "l", Dillon is spelled with an "o"
	towards the end, Windham has an "h" in the middle, Luger has an "e"
	towards the end, and Sting and Sid are missing from your roster 
	altogether.
Loonies liked Windham better as a crazy-man heel.
Marks hated all of them (except when they were faces).

>4   People who beat Rick Flair for the title are Dustin Rhodes, Ron Garvin,
>        Sting, Lex Lugar  			      ^^ ?? HA HA!! 
						      || ??
						      ||

Real Men only wish Lex had beaten Flair for the title.
Real Fans will respond that the complete list of Flair's title losses includes
	Runnels, Garvin, Race, Von Adkinsson, Sting, Steamboat, and Poffo.
Loonies are STILL waiting for the arm-wrestling match between Heenan and Liz.
Marks say that Hulk Hogan should be the ONLY man on that list, if Flair had
	been in the WWF with him.

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Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 19:56:08 EST
From: <ACPS7032@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Jake in WCW
 <1992Apr3.232959.682@acsu.buffalo.edu> <1992Apr6.194153.1739@acsu.buffalo.edu>

Is Jake really going to the WCW I hope not he's the best heel (both fighter
 and interview wise) in the WWF --- he is good even without a belt --- he
 doesn't need one to get the crowd interested .... however I would like to
see him REALLY hurt someone and win for a while.
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R!  W  W W  W  W  W W  W  W      !N
K!   WW   WW    WW   WW   W      !!