HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: spagiola@amy5.stanford.edu (Stefano P. Pagiola)
Subject: Re: WordPerfect  (YES!)
Reply-To: spagiola@leland.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 18:17:57 GMT

Ivan Vesely writes
> Come on, somebody out there besides me must like WordPerfect?


Well, I like it for all its features, the same reason that I liked  
the PC version.  And of course, its just about the standard so having  
the file-compatibility is great.
Having said that, many things are really crummy (its handling of tabs  
has 'pride' of place here, IMHO) and some things are very annoying  
(there is no way to save graphics box defaults, eg, and the styles  
menu is very badly organized).  Also it slows down tremendously as  
soon as you have a significant number of font/formatting changes.

The bottom line is that yes, it does what I need it to do, and other  
available programs don't.  So I keep using it.  But I doubt WP will  
survive very long if their strategy remains one of 'people have  
nowhere else to go, so it doesn't matter what we ship.'
--
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
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From: tomi@cc.tut.fi (Heinonen Tomi)
Subject: Mail transferring
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Finland
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 06:09:41 GMT


Hi!

My own next is not connected to internet but I would like to read mail with it.
I have transferred mails from my schools computer by modem. (simply copying
/usr/spool/mail/username to my nexts /usr/spool/mail/username)
Now I am wondering if there is any apps that could make the same automatically
Or even better if it could send mails from my own next (using the address of 
schools machine).
If you know anything about apps that could help me please answer!

By the way.. is there any apps that transfer news from news-server to hard disk by modem?

-- 
Tomi Heinonen	 tomi@cc.tut.fi     Tampere University of Technology
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From: rfr@honeoye.bst.rochester.edu (Richard Raubertas)
Subject: Recommended X windows systems
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 21:39:53 GMT

I need an X windows package for my 25MHz mono station.  
I would like to be able to continue using NeXTSTEP, with
one or two X windows on the screen at the same time, rather
than turning the whole screen over to X.  I have seen 
mention of products called co-Xist, Cub'X, and eXodus.
Does anyone have any recommendations about which to choose?

Rich Raubertas
rfr@bst.rochester.edu
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From: mdw@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (mark.d.wuest)
Subject: Re: ObjectStore OODBMS to be in NeXTstep in 1993!
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:29:30 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.001616.12684@leland.Stanford.EDU> shiva@vega.Stanford.EDU (Marcos Javier Polanco) writes:
> ... the OODBMs that had announced for NeXTstep were either weak (POET)
>or forced you to program in strange languages (PDS' IDB).

Versant's seems to be easy, but C++ oriented.  You basically inherit from
a class they provide and declare your object as persistent.

BUT - I haven't heard a word since their port was announced in the
Extra a couple of months ago.  Anyone from Wiltel (the port is specifically
for them) or Versant care to comment?

Mark
-- 
Mark Wuest
mark.wuest@att.com
mdw@cheshire.att.com (NeXT Mail Welcome!)
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From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Subject: Re: PasteUp released?
Reply-To: sanguish@digifix.com
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:48:39 GMT

James Grinter writes
> 
> Basically what I would like to know is, has PasteUp been released in
> the US yet? A dealer here in the UK says July 30th, but before they
> told us June 30th, so what could be happening?
> 
> Secondly, if it has been released in the UK, what is it like? Can it
> do all that Glenn Reid (thanks for some early info Glenn) assured me
> it it would be able to?
> 

	I just called RightBrain and was told they hope to be shipping by  
Friday...

	The most unfortunate thing is that the capabilities of PasteUp have  
been kept in the dark for the most part.  I guess that protects RightBrain from  
having other companies steal their ideas before they get a chance to ship.   
Unfortunately, in my case, it meant that I had to make a decision today about  
whether I would purchase FrameMaker or PasteUp.  Do to the fact I have used  
Frame before, and I have not used PasteUp, I went with Frame.  :-(

	Hopefully, come mid-september, october time frame  PasteUp will be out,  
widely reviewed, and I will upgrade/sidegrade to it.

	Sorry Glenn...  However, I will shell out immediately for the Utilities  
bundle as soon as you actually start shipping the source code with it.  PasteUp  
is obviously (and rightly) the priority though.

-- 
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)

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From: hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama)
Subject: communications software ?
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:12:39 GMT

Are there any  other good freeware  comm programs for  modem use  than
Kermit or Pcomm? Preferably with good NeXT interface...

-harri-
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///// University of Vaasa, P.O.Box 700, 65101 VAASA, Finland 
///// Telephone:+358 61 3248364  fax:+358 61 3248465
///// Anonymous ftp site moderator at garbo.uwasa.fi (128.214.87.1)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.fortran
From: wbtt001@dutrun2.tudelft.nl (A. Evers)
Subject: NAG Libraries on NeXTStep
Originator: wbtt001@dutrun2.tudelft.nl
Keywords: NAG, NeXTStep
Reply-To: wbtt001@dutrun2.tudelft.nl (A. Evers)
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 07:27:49 GMT

I'm posting this question for an acquaintance who does not have access to news;
please respond to him directly (dvlamings@icgned.nl):

>Does anyone out there knows if there is a port or availability of the  
>NAG-libraries for Fortran routines on NeXTSTEP? Can we buy  
>them?

>You can really help me by putting this question on INTERNET! 

>Please respond right away if you have a direction.

>Diederic Vlamings

ThanX
From: kls30@RUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WordPerfect Update (NOT!):  No current volume - No NeXT V6.0
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:24:19 GMT
Reply-To: kls30@RUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Jul30.205006.11190@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu writes:
>In article <1992Jul30.005304.7212@Trirex.COM> mmelling@Trirex.com(Michael  
>Mellinger) writes:
>
>> At the SIA show in NYC last month I talked to the Lotus people about  
>> Improv 2.0.  They said that currently the *entire* Improv team is working  
>> on Improv 2.0 for MS Windows, and that they don't have any current plans  
>> to port it to the NeXT.
>
>IMHO, It's their own doing.
>
>If they had:
>
>1. Priced Improv reasonably: it's too expensive for small businesses,
>and was too cheap (free) for educational users.

The price set for education was not set by them.  The price is set by a
company the sells all Lotus products to virtually every school campus in
the U.S.

They also handle Adobe and other products.

BTW - If a small business can afford Lotus 123 they can afford Improv.

>
>2. Made a commitment to the further development of the product, and
>not overplayed their stupid refusal to even comment on whether they
>would fix bugs and add features.
>
>3. Copy protected the software so people couldn't steal it, which
>I have seen done (with WP as well).

Copy protection sucks.  If it is like the stuff on MMa I wouldn't buy
the product.  On the other hand if it justs sticks my machine name and
my name on a panel showing the registered user I wouldn't mind.

--
/*  -The opinions expressed are my own, not my employers.    */
/*      For I can only express my own opinions.              */
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From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Subject: Re: AGH! NewsGrazer and Mail gang up & destroy work!
Reply-To: sanguish@digifix.com
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 01:28:22 GMT

Philip Machanick writes
> In article <Bs0CIA.C4r@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David  
Lemson)  
> writes:
> > robert@metropolis.com (Robert Munyer) writes:
> > 
> > 
> > >In article <1992Jul26.065529.23264@metropolis.com> robert@metropolis.com
> > >(Robert Munyer) writes:

	[problems with Mail and NewsGrazer]
> 
> Same to me as well. Maybe we should change its name to MailMuncher?
> 
> I tried sending a bug report to newsgrazer@next.com (as suggested by Info  
> Panel) - no response.


	NewsGrazer uses an unofficial API to Mail.  The problem actually is in  
Mail, not NewsGrazer.  Any application that opens a mail window will do this.

	Remember that NewsGrazer is an unsupported product at this point, so  
responses are not very likely.

	
-- 
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)

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From: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: WordPerfect Update (NOT!):  No current volume - No NeXT V6.0
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:50:06 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.005304.7212@Trirex.COM> mmelling@Trirex.com(Michael  
Mellinger) writes:

> At the SIA show in NYC last month I talked to the Lotus people about  
> Improv 2.0.  They said that currently the *entire* Improv team is working  
> on Improv 2.0 for MS Windows, and that they don't have any current plans  
> to port it to the NeXT.

IMHO, It's their own doing.

If they had:

1. Priced Improv reasonably: it's too expensive for small businesses,
and was too cheap (free) for educational users.

2. Made a commitment to the further development of the product, and
not overplayed their stupid refusal to even comment on whether they
would fix bugs and add features.

3. Copy protected the software so people couldn't steal it, which
I have seen done (with WP as well).


> "If I poke myself in the head with this pencil will it hurt?"
> 
> is equivalent to
> 
> "Golly, if we only sell 50,000 computers will our company suffer great  
> pain?"
> 
> Now I'm waiting for NeXT to release a $10,000 RISC workstation that no one  
> can afford

We can, and we will.  So will lots of other folks who need the power
but would prefer to have it harnessed by NeXTstep.

--
Nathan Janette		"I'm a NeXTstep man,
Dept MB&B, Yale Univ	 I'm a NeXTcube guy"
New Haven, CT
nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (NeXT)

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From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: WANTED: SplitView text editor
Reply-To: eps@cs.sfsu.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 06:08:41 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.233502.6868@dolphin.com> zac@dolphin.com
	(Zacharias J. Beckman) writes:
>Eh?  NeXTSTEP front end to Emacs?  Sounds interesting.  Where is it?  Now if  
>only someone would do a NeXTSTEP version of vi (I started on it, but never  
>managed to find enough time to finish...)!

Eek!  I almost did one as an April Fool's joke... but I was
afraid too many people would take it seriously!

					-=EPS=-
From: shis@arnor.sbi.com (Peter Shis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MMAP and Override text mode
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:36:22 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Stratus - Salomon Brothers Inc., NY


	(1) MMAP.  What is the correct calling sequence?  Had no
	    problem to compile and bind the program.  Execution 
	    came back saying "invalid argument".  Same program 
	    worked fine in AIX and SUNOS.

	(2) For a input text field, how to turn on "override" mode in
	    stead of the "insert" mode?

	(3) For a input text field, the select color disappeared once
	    I turned the background color to yellow.  How to provent 
	    it?

- Peter
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 14:22:48 MDT
From: yackd@oregon.et.byu.edu (Don Yacktman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Distribution: world
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Subject: New versions of PacMan, PillBottle, and Columns
Keywords: PacMan, PillBottle, ColumnsHello to all of you who like to play games on the NeXT!


I have recently placed updated versions of my games in
the submissions directories of nova.cc.purdue.edu and
cs.orst.edu.  Here's a brief description of the changes
to all three (PacMan, Columns, and PillBottle).

-----------------------------------------------------------

PacMan:

Bug fixes, mostly.  The Makefile is fixed, the console
messages should be gone, the return char. in the subject
field of the suggestions mailer is gone, and so on.  I
think I've nabbed all the reported _bugs_, but haven't
had time to get around to much in the new feature category.

There are two new features, however.  (1) You can now set
the background picture by drag and drop of a .tiff or .eps
image from the WorkSpace.  (2) The stats and fruit basket
panels move around with the PacMan window.

-----------------------------------------------------------

Columns:

The only real change is the addition of drap and drop
backgrounds as in PacMan.  However, if you are a registered
user, you may now request source code from me and I will
e-mail it to you.

-----------------------------------------------------------

PillBottle:

This is an interim release.  I'm hard at work revamping
things, but felt that I'd like to share some of what I've
accomplished now...most of the improvements are in the
underlying code, and not so visible on the surface, but
the interface is prettier and the images (finally) ought
to look good on both color _and_ monochrome machines.  If
you thought the graphics were ugly before, try it out
again; I think it looks a bit better now.  I still need to
speed up drawing and finish the implementation of several
features, but it's getting there.  If you registered for
PillBottle, you may now request source for that as well.
It's not what I'd call a finished state, but you can have
a peek at it just the same. :-)

-----------------------------------------------------------

The file names are, specifically:

Columns2.0.app.tar.Z
PacMan1.1.tar.Z
PillBottle0.8b.app.tar.Z

and they are located in /pub/next/submissions on both
nova( or sonata).cc.purdue.edu and cs.orst.edu.


Well, try out the new versions and let me know what you think
of them.  I've you've already requested a feature, and it
hasn't shown up yet, don't panic!  I'm working as fast as I
can of these, but there's only so much spare time in the day!

Later,
-Don Yacktman
yackd@wombat.ee.byu.edu
From: reed@prism.sps.mot.com (Tim Reed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Dumb FAQ: Where is Kermit?
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:58:45 GMT
Organization: SPS

In article <1992Jul29.172142.628@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu>  
bdugan@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Bill Dugan) writes:
> Boy, there is a dumb question I gotta ask but I can't see a FAQ up  
right
> now...
> 
> Where can I ftp a binary of Kermit for the next?  I would really  
rather
> grab a binary than compile it since I've had some troubles  
compiling the
> one Kermit source I was able to locate.  Please send mail.
> 
> Thanks-- bill 
> bdugan@gnu.ai.mit.edu
> 
> -- 
> Bill Dugan
> bdugan@gnu.ai.mit.edu

This binary is available from cs.orst.edu in directory  
/pub/next/binaries as kermit5a.170.bin20.tar.Z. I just got it from  
there a couple of days ago.
--
-----------------------------------
Tim Reed
Motorola Inc.
Prism CIM System Admin.
reed@prism.sps.mot.com
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From: burchard@horizon.math.utah.edu (Paul Burchard)
Subject: Re: Mathematica Installation Difficulties
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 01:16:09 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.231333.6484@leland.Stanford.EDU> shiva@vega.Stanford.EDU  
(Marcos Javier Polanco) writes:
> 
> 
> I finished installing Mathematica on my Nextstation last night, after  
> getting
> the  password from Wolfram Research.
> 
> I expected to get a prompt like IN[1] = like the Mathematica book shows.
> Instead, when I click on Notebook, I get a blank page (Untitled-1) without
> any prompt.
> 
> I tried clicking on different options but nothing gave me a prompt.

No prompt appears---you just start typing.  Note the following peculiarities of  
Mma, however:
1. You must hit Shift-Return or Enter to complete the command (not Return).
2. Mma doesn't start the kernel until the first command is entered, so the  
first command will take a while to finish even if it is 1+1 (this can be  
changed with Preferences menu).
3. Errors in the shell scripts "math" and "mathremote" or the password file
(typically "/LocalApps/Mathematica.app/Kernel/NeXT/mathpass") can cause Mma,  
without any user notification, to just never respond to your commands.  The  
file paths and host and registration information must be exactly correct.

Examples of the last one: if your "mathpass" file has your host as  
"glub.flub.edu", but the UNIX hostname command replies with "glub", Mma will go  
into sulk mode.  Or---true story---if someone misspells "Kernel" as "Kernal" in  
the paths given in the scripts, then you will have a devil of a time figuring  
out why Mma won't run.

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From: soward@slow.inslab.uky.edu (John Soward)
Subject: Re: MapleV on NeXT Computers
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 12:56:23 GMT

Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy) writes
-> From your description it sounds that Maple V behaves very much like
-> its X-window version (which I use remotely from a Convex with output
-> to my NeXT). I wonder how much disk space a full system requires (I'm
-> beginning to run short)?

Maple with all the poop (e.g. libraries, on-line help, etc):

slow# du -s /LocalApps/Maple.app
11621   /LocalApps/Maple.app


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From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Subject: Re: WANTED: *NeXTstep* SplitView text editor
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.
Distribution: world,local
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 00:32:20 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.021738.3501@arizona.edu> zazula@pri.com writes:
>
>I wrote:
>> P.S. out of curiosity, what *is* the incantation to bring up a split-screen
>> in emacs?
>
>Andrew Loewenstern wrote: Hit "C-x-4-b" and put in the name of the buffer
>
>John McCraken wrote: Why, it's "ctrl-x 2" of course.  Isn't that obvious :-)
>
>Ooooowwwww!!!  My stomach hurts, someone help - I can't stop laughing.... :-)

C-x-4-b will let you put any buffer in the other window while C-x-2
will immediately create a new window and put the current buffer in it.
So if you already have two windows up and you use C-x-2, it will
create a third...


andrew
-- 
andrew@cubetech.com
Andrew Loewenstern      | "If I am not for myself, who will be for me?
Cube Technologies, Inc. |  If I am only for myself, who am I?" -Hillel
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From: charon@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Sebastian Florian Mix)
Subject: Re: SwapFile.
Keywords: /etc/fstab /private/vm/swapfile /etc/swaptab
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 12:08:16 GMT

cyk@tos28.teradata.com writes:
>   I have been trying to designate the 240 MB internal drive, which
>is not my boot device, as to be the swap device without success.  Can
>anybody give me some help?   Thanks in advance.
To be more precise: You're trying to put your swapfile on the internal drive.
>
>   A little bit more detail about my hardware configuration and the
>unsuccessful attemp I tried are given in the following:
>
>     1) My NeXT is equipped with one 220 MB internal drive and
>        one 520 MB external drive.  The external drive has a SCSI
>        ID of 0; and it's the boot device.  The internal drive 
>        has a SCSI ID of 1; and it's mounted at "/local".
I got a similar setup and the same problem.
>
>     2) The internal drive currently does not contain any data
>        other than a copy of the system software.  It acts as a
>        backup boot device in case the external drive fails. 
>
>        In order to  better utilize the internal drive, I would
>        like to put the swap file on it.  
>
>     3) I made the following unsuccessful attempt:
>
>         Step 1: My internal drive is mounted at /local.
> 
>         Step 2: I deleted /local/private/vm/swapfile.
> 
>         Step 3: I modified the /etc/swaptab file to
>                 contain a single entry looking like:
> 
>                 /local/private/vm/swapfile .....
> 
>         Step 4: I rebooted the machine in verbose
>                 mode; and, observed a message like:
> 
>                 mach_swapon: /local/private/vm/swapfile failed.
And here's the problem: is /local already mounted when mach_swapon tries to put
the swapfile on it ? I strongly suspect it isn't. At least mine wasn't in a 
similar setup.
> 
[..]
>
To summarize: your internal drive is very likely not mounted when you're
trying to install your swapfile on it. It is mounted later by the automounter.
Solution: create an appropriate fstab entry for your external disk so it will
be mounted at boot time (in /etc/rc.boot if i remember correctly) before
mach_swapon gets called. This worked for me.

hope that helps

--
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From: GautierA@vm1.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mathematica Installation Difficulties
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:10:39 GMT
Reply-To: GautierA@vm1.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
Organization: Universite Laval

In article <1992Jul28.231333.6484@leland.Stanford.EDU>  
shiva@vega.Stanford.EDU (Marcos Javier Polanco) writes:

>  I finished installing Mathematica on my Nextstation last night,  
after  
>  gettingthe  password from Wolfram Research.
>  
>  I expected to get a prompt like IN[1] = like the Mathematica book  
shows.
>  Instead, when I click on Notebook, I get a blank page (Untitled-1)  
without
>  any prompt.

 I had similar problems. If I remember, re-installing the package as  
ROOT did it.


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