HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Faulk, 299 yds rushing vs. BYU
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:03:37 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Sep13.170443.20258@afit.af.mil> tbreeden@afit.af.mil (Thomas A. Breeden) writes:
>What pisses me off about Faulk is the SD-State coach, whatever his name
>is.  First, when asked if Faulk should win the Heisman, he (the coach)
>said, "Who else are you gonna' give it to?"  Second, he said, "Faulk
>is better than Hershell Walker ever dreamed of being," or something
>very close to that.
>
>What an asshole.
>
So just how many yards did Faulk get last year vs. Air Force?

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From: kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge)
Subject: Re: What would you think if....?
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 19:08:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.155028.13244@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep04.144923.2993@brtph560.bnr.ca> trice@bnr.ca writes:
|> 
|> But Ive seen the 1990 Virginia-Virginia Tech game mentioned at least 5
|> times during summer 1992. Thats woofing.

I'd like to see where you can find such examples.  I personally don't
remember other posts where the 1990 game was mentioned on its own 
this summer by Va Tech fans on the net.

|> >I brought up a game from the same year that another
|> >person referenced.  How is this any different than bringing
|> >up a 1991 game?  Huh?                              
|> 
|> Cause 1991 games are a lot more relevant. In fact, as this was the last
                                   ^^^^^^^^

Relevant to the original comment from a UVa student (which was about the
1990 season)?  No, it isn't.  Was the comment appropriate?  Probably not,
since both games (1991 and 1990) have been discussed to death here.

|> game Va Tech played, it is in fact THE MOST relevant game to mention,

Again, not when the topic was on UVa's 1990 football season, not their
1991 season.  Who pointed to the 1990 season?  A poster with a 
Virginia.EDU address.

|>                               I was ragging on not just you, but the
|> multitude of VA Tech woofers.

Other than Mike and I, I haven't seen too many Va Tech fans who post about
our team on a regular basis, so I don't know how you get 2 = multitude of 
woofers.  And speaking of "woofing", both Mike and I have continually used
caution when speaking of VT's football chances this year, so I don't know 
why you feel you need to "rag" on us for no apparent reason.  You're just 
plain wrong when you state VT people have been woofing the 1990 game this 
past summer on the net.  Both of us gave plenty of credit to UVa for beating 
Tech last fall, just ask Charlie.

Tony's post was the first I've seen in a long while that outright woofs 
about the game from that year, but he's new here, so flame him for being 
that, but leave your sermon about "ragging on the multitude of Va Tech 
woofers" crap out without any better evidence to do so.  You can make fun
of VT all you want (we can give and take it too), but when you incorrectly 
try to label things on posters to justify your individual flames, I take 
exception to that.

|> -rob

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From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Hmmm Texas to Big 10!!!
Keywords: n
Date: 11 Sep 92 00:32:06 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

retrac@vesuvius.cs.rice.edu (John Carter) writes:

>If the big state schools bolt, the four private schools in the SWC (SMU,
>Baylor, Rice, and TCU) would (will?) probably drop out of division IA, at
>least for football.  Seeing as how Rice seems to be more competitive of
>late, that's too bad.

Football is still pretty important at Baylor and SMU.  There is
the possibility of a new western conference that would include
the remaining Southwest teams plus San Jose State, Nevada,
and Nevada Las Vegas.  That wouldn't be a bad conference for
basketball if Houston was in it as well.


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From: gt6249c@prism.gatech.EDU (Chen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Bama 17,  S. Miss 10
Date: 15 Sep 92 07:59:16 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Cracker Barrel



Is it just me, or is Bama's offense more pathetic than the one we had last
year?  There's gotta be something wrong when you have 383 total yards
and the other team only has 54 and you only win by 7.  Take away 
the defensive and special team scores, and our offense has scored a
grand total of 29 points in two games.  If we didn't have a great  
defense, Alabama would go 3-8 this year.

So what's wrong with our offense?  Is it David Palmer's suspension?
Is it Mal Moore?  Is it the uniforms?

I sure Hope they do better against Arkansas this weekend.  Cause
the only difference between Alabama having a good season or a great
one depends on how well our offense plays.



Bin
 
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From: robertd@ecs.comm.mot.com (Robert Day)
Subject: Re: Michigan vs. Notre Dame
Organization: control_centers
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:41:45 GMT


In <1992Sep10.135601.19958@news.nd.edu>, rszczerb@steinbeck.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba) writes:

>Actually, with all the questions about our defense this year, I predict:

>		ND    128
>		Mich  120

>		Bettis will rush for 786 yards.


>			- Rob
 
My, you're getting to be quite the smart aleck
aren't you? :)  Funny thing is, I agree.  With
ND's great offense and their crappy defense I think
it's going to be a high scoring game.

(Since I picked the ND-Northwestern game right on
the nose last week, I'm going to abstain from 
making a pick this week :)  

Rob
-- 
There is no substitute for good manners, except, perhaps, fast reflexes.

robertd@ecs.comm.mot.com    GO IRISH, BEARS, BULLS, WHITE SOX, HAWKS, etc.
From: chill@walt.UUCP (Curtis Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Eugene Chung/Asians in NFL
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:16:27 GMT



Eugene was the first Asian taken in the first round of the NFL draft.

That's where the "first" confusion is coming from.




Curtis Hill
star3!walt!chill@mcnc.org
From: swanger@news.duc.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: The Deuce is Juiced, Part II
Date: 14 Sep 92 03:20:05 GMT
Organization: Auburn University, AL

In article <1992Sep10.175527.426@b11.b11.ingr.com>, mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell) writes:
> In article <1992Sep7.200319.1@ducvax.auburn.edu> swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:
> 
>>He is an awesome player with abilities on the
>>level of Bo Jackson and Rocket Ishmail.  
> 
>     He *is* an awsome player but on the level of Bo Jackson I don't
> know.  Maybe Rocket as his ability lies more in speed and moves than
> in raw power.  Bo had blinding speed and the strength to run over
> you if he couldn't outmaneuver you (Ask The Bozzzzz).  Palmer can
> certainly be a game breaker though.

True, David can't run over people like Bo could, but he is a threat to score 
from just about anywhere on the field.  He was certainly on a higher level
ability-wise than most of the players I saw last year.  He is a bona-fide
great player.

I would hate to see him ruin his future.
-- 
David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
From: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Why did the Gators drop in AP poll?
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:04:34 GMT
Reply-To: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Organization: Florida State University

In article <1992Sep4.092550.2496@math.ufl.edu> mitgardt@math.ufl.edu (John Mitgardt) writes:
>In article <10566@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore) writes:
>>Because the Gators suck, of course.
>   Not up to your usual standards David. What FSU has to worry about is

Heh...well it was a long day...

>their rep when they play Florida. This series is one of streaks and nobody

I'm not too concerned about the ROYL factor (rest on yo laurels). In
fact, if anything, that may have been a factor last year. People around
here had begun to be complacent about the Gators, instead focusing on
Miami. Big mistake.

>chokes better than Bowden (excepy ANY Michigan coach). Florida will be the

Not an entirely fair characterization, really. Bowden has lost his share
of games with major high stakes, but you don't get into those kinds of
positions without winning some big ones too. Also, for every such loss,
there is an equally big win (consider road wins against LSU, Nebahoma,
Michigan, Clempsun, etc.)

>Miami ) and that may shock the Noles, your lines will have to win this one

I think there is concern at this point about the offensive line. Their
play against Duke was not very impressive. The defensive line, however,
looks even better than I thought it would be. I believe the Gators ar
lacking some depth on the line this year themselves...

>either :). FSU is head and shoulders better than the ACC, these chumps

Gee thanks! I hope there is a Corollary to Oliver's Theorem that said it
is null and void when employed by your chief rival!

>is all they are gonna get. Your hardest games will continue to be UF and
>UMiami and you are due for a win agianst the Blowhards ans a loss to the

Agreed, at least on the point about the most difficult games.

>Lizards. (Notice I avoid how UF will do against the Dawgs  ;).

They certainly won't be UFs most difficult game this year.

David Poore
poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu
Subject: Faulk, 299 yds rushing vs. BYU
Organization: Marriott Library, University of Utah
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:43:46 GMT

Marshall Faulk won the Heisman Thursday night. 299 yds on the ground!? 
My Gawd! And that's a typical game!


Jeff Jonsson
Marriott Library System Support, University of Utah.
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From: acdendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Pac 10
Date: 10 Sep 92 23:13:00 GMT
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <serdar.715830096@fawlty8.eng.monash.edu.au>, serdar@fawlty8.eng.monash.edu.au (Serdar Boztas) writes...
> 
>It also seems that USC escaped with a tie in rather lucky
>circumstances. Doubtless, the USC fans closer to the action
>will fill us in on the details.
> 
>Serdar
> 
>PS: The Trojans better recover in a hurry or they might be
>in big trouble in Norman and then in Seattle.
> 

This is the same kind of thing that was being said after their loss to 
Memphis St last year, and a hurried recovery seemed to be possible.  I've 
always thought that their total collapse showed a real lack of the character 
required to tough it out and win when things get tough.

As for this year's team, we'll have to wait and see.  But I can't see what 
may have changed to make them handle adversity any better.

R Dendy
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Faulk, 299 yds rushing vs. BYU
Date: 13 Sep 92 13:22:18 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu (Spiro the Spiny Goldfish) wrote:
}
}Typical game against a WAC team, perhaps. Hell, I bet YOU could rush 100 yards
}against BYU.

Well golly, I guess we can expect one of the PennHeads to rack up similar
numbers against BYU this season then, right?  If no Pepsi State players
can manage a "typical" 299 yard game, they must really suck!

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
 "There was such speed in her little body, and such lightness in her
    footfall, it is no wonder her brown study astonishes us all."
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Score Trivia...
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:46:02 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

dew6c@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Dallas E. Wrege) wrote:

}>|> I remember someone telling me once that the most
}>|> lopsided score of all times was back around 1910
}>|> or so, when Georgia Tech beat Cumberland 222-0, and
}>|> the game was apparently called halfway through the
}>|> third quarter.

The date was October 16, 1916.  Four quarters were in fact played in the game,
but the teams had agreed to shorten the 3rd and 4th quarters to just 12 minutes
(from 15) and also had the timekeepers quit stopping the clock for first
downs, out-of-bounds, etc.

cs169061@cs.brown.edu (Michael Kalman) wrote:
}>
}>                             For all those pts, Georgia
}>Tech did not score even once on a forward pass that day.
}>I guess they were more civilized about running up scores
}>back then :-)

It's true - in fact Tech didn't even attempt a single pass for the
game.

-- 
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 "What will happen in the evening in the forest with the weasel with
  the teeth which bite so sharp when you're not looking in the evening?"
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: acdendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY)
Subject: Roger's top 25--8 Sep 92
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 10 Sep 1992 18:48 EST  

Sorry about the delay (oh, right. Like anyone is looking for this post), 
the local net was cutting me off after about two minutes every time I tried 
to post.  Now, you may think that it was a hint which I ought to get, but I 
am not deterred.  So, here are this week's top 25, with only a few early 
season biases surviving the first 2 weeks.  (Normally, by the fifth week, 
the preseason bias is averaged out to imperceptibility).

Team			Weight

1 Miami Fl 	1-0	2.4
2 Washington	1-0	2.2
3 Florida	0-0	2.1
4 Michigan	0-0	2.1	Game of the Week: 4 Michigan
5 Florida St	1-0	2.0				vs.
6 Notre Dame	1-0	2.0			  6 Notre Dame
7 Alabama	1-0	1.9
8 Penn State	1-0	1.9	Alternate:	  5 Florida State
9 Texas A&M	2-0	1.9				vs.
10 Nebraska	1-0	1.9			 14 Clemson
11 Syracuse	1-0	1.9
12 Oklahoma	1-0	1.8	Ugly Game of the Week: 12 Oklahoma
13 Georgia Tech	0-0	1.8				    vs.
14 Clemson	1-0	1.8			      107 Arkansas St
15 UCLA		0-0	1.7
16 Colorado	1-0	1.7	Media Bias Winner of the Week:
17 Georgia	1-0	1.7			25 N C State (AP 19)
18 Miss. St	1-0	1.7
19 Ohio St	1-0	1.6	Media Bias Loser of the Week:
20 California	1-0	1.6			21 BYU
21 BYU		1-0	1.6
22 Tennessee	1-0	1.6	Computer Bias Winners of the Week (the last):
23 N Carolina	1-0	1.5			13 Georgia Tech (AP 24)
24 Stanford	0-1	1.5			23 N Carolina (AP unranked)
25 N C State	2-0	1.5

A quick glance will show that teams who haven't played yet get undue 
benefit from this version of the program.  This is mainly because the 
points awarded for the win (in most early season games) are less than       
the team's current weight, thus bringing its average down.  I tried 
increasing the damping factor, but at this point the best solution I see is 
to wait a few weeks until it evens out (as much as I hate that answer).

The Bottom Ten:

98 S Carolina	0-1	0.5	Crummy Game of the Week:
99 SW Lou.	0-1	0.5			94 Arkansas
100 Kent	0-1	0.5				vs.
101 New Mexico	1-0	0.5			98 South Carolina
102 Maryland	0-1	0.5
103 Northwestern 0-1	0.5
104 W Michigan	0-1	0.5
105 Colo St	0-1	0.5
106 N. Ill.	0-1	0.4
107 Ark. St.	0-1	0.2

Note that it's a tight competition in this range so far.  Look for New 
Mexico to climb out of the rankings with a win over NMSU this week.  Also 
look for Arkansas to make an appearance--maybe not today, maybe not 
tomorrow, but soon, and for the rest of the season.

R Dendy
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: A college player's thoughts on a stipend...
From: mzwick@vitro.com (Morris J. Zwick)
Date: 3 Sep 92 11:00:11 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Vitro Corporation

Agreed!

I am quite amazed that football players do as well as they do academically
considering the amount of time invested in football. While the scholarship is a
positive, the amount of work devoted to earning that scholarship is
substantial. While nobody wants to see college athletes paid for performance
(we have the professional leagues for that), a standard monthly stipend seems
eminently reasonable. The only potential problem lies in the fact that the vast
majority of athletic departments operate in the red. Much like the
proliferation of div. I basketball teams, there are too many football teams
spreading the wealth. Perhaps the NCAA should say that you can be div I-A if
you can afford a stipend for players as well as scholarships. Any thoughts?


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From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Bama, God, and Bear Bryant
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:36:32 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <92253.124234JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu> JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>"What the hell..." I mutter.  Could it be?
>
>YES IT COULD!  Apparently the Prime Sports netwrork pulls in feeds from
>several regional broadcasting companies, so that I was able to watch
>the Bama-Vandy game.  In State College.
>
>There is a God, after all.

Well, of course in Alabama don't they still tell the story of the Bama
fan who died and went to heaven, and saw a mysterious figure there
walking around in a familiar houndstooth hat?   When he asked who it 
was, one of the angels there said "It's God, but he thinks he's Bear
Bryant."

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Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
Date:         Sat, 12 Sep 92 14:13:00 CST
From:         Bapi Gupta <C31801AG@WUVMD>
To:           NETNEWS@WUVMD
Subject:      Re: r.s.f.c 2nd poll results
Newsgroups:   rec.sport.football.college

>
>In article <1992Sep11.121508.23338@ncsu.edu>, jvbutera@grad03.math.ncsu.edu
>(Jeffrey V. Butera) says:
>
>In article <92254.232155C31801AG@wuvmd.wustl.edu> Bapi Gupta <C31801AG@WUVMD>
>writes:
>-
>>|                          |          | Point |           1 11111 11112
22222|
>>| Rank College             |  W  L  T | Total | 12345 67890 12345 67890
12345|
>>|--------------------------+----------+-------+------------------------------
|
>-
>
>>|  24. Ohio State          |  1  0  0 |    82 | ..1.. ...1. ..... ..112
112..|
>                                                   ^
>                                                   |
>
>Okay, who the hell gave OSU a third place vote?  You talking about woofing....
>fan as soon as hell freezes over.  Until then... Go Clemson Tigers!

I'll leave the submissions anonymous for right now, but I will grant
you that vote came from someone @ohio-state...

It's way funny looking at some of the ballots, we're talking woof
world gone wild!


Bapi
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett)
Subject: Re: Faulk, 299 yds rushing vs. BYU
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:54:13 GMT

glane@athena.qualcomm.com (George Lane) writes:

>lein@base.ctt.bellcore.com (John Leinaweaver,,RRC-4A720,699-2322) writes:

>>IMHO Faulk is a great back but I would like to see him against a top
>>10 defense (not a WAC defense that starts to arm tackle mid-way through
>>the third Quarter).

>Obviously, you missed his 158 yards against Miami last year.

I saw Superman run those 158 yards last year in the OB.  That why I posted
pre-season the Falk was the best RB in college this year.  Now he could
be the best since Barry Sanders.    I hope Falk wins that Heisman.  

BTW, Miami will get a shot at Falk, two days after Thanksgiving (11/28)
at SDST.   The Heisman award should be over by then. The game will be on TV.
Then we can stuff that turkey. ;->

Gobber can bring the Ice-Tea.   Sweeten not stirred.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: Schmidt Computer Rankings through 13-Sep
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 06:39:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.224045.19488@cco.caltech.edu> schmke@cco.caltech.edu (Kevin Todd Schmidt) writes:
>Here are my rankings through 13-Sep-92.
>
>I know that I will get flamed to no end about Purdue, Kansas, and LSU but
>I am trying to make my rankings be accurate for all 107 Div. I-A teams
>and in the early season big wins/upsets will cause there to be "anomalous"
>rankings.  A few more games should help settle things out.
>
>This last week my rankings went an impressive 27-15-0 against the spread
>and 27-15-2 in picking winners between between Div. I-A teams.  That puts
>me at 44-25-2 against the spread and 59-25-4 in picking winners for the
>year.  My rankings did ok in Chris Stassens pool but did beat Bapi Gupta's
>and Sagarins entries.
>
>I welcome comments and suggestions.
>
>Kevin
>
>															 Schedule
>Rank Team                      Points  Record Strength  Last Week    Change
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>2    Purdue                    92.767   1-0-0  84.175  ( 52,  70.167)  +50
>12   California                84.175   1-1-0  78.566  (  6,  88.578)  -6

>29   Colorado                  78.412   2-0-0  65.523  ( 19,  81.302)  -10
>75   Baylor                    65.580   0-2-0  72.105  ( 41,  73.753)  -34

Hmm.. Colorado routed Baylor by more than the spread... Cal got blown
out by a lowly Purdue ( Purdue was lower than Baylor last week! ). 
Colorado falls 10 places whereas Cal falls only 6!

Maybe you should check your algorithm... It ought to be consistent, to say
the least.

Njan
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