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From: system@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Okay, if you're so smart ...
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:56:07 GMT
Organization: The Code Works Limited, PO Box 10 155, Auckland, New Zealand

pharvey@quack.sac.ca.us (Paul Harvey) writes:

> Aramaic is best known as the
> language that Jesus, if he even existed, would most likely have spoken
> as it became the language of speach amongst Hellenistic Jewry after the
> fall of Israel and Judah and the relocation of the center of Judaism
> from Jerusalem to Babylon where the Hebrew language was kept alive.

Also, of the statements variously attributed to Jesus in the Bible, some 
appear to be variations / derivations /turned-on-their-head sayings/idiomatic
speech in Aramaic that were translated literally into Greek.

Other wording indicates that it may well have been spoken in Greek directly.
This would not be surprising as an educated Palestinian of the time would
have been taught Greek. Even though Jesus was reputed to be the son of a
carpenter, it would appear that he received a thorough education.

As for Jesus' existence - there is a Roman reference to his execution under
Pontius Pilate for leasding a Jewish movement between AD 30 and AD 36. 
Various other strands of evidence make a very strong case for the existence 
of a historical person with that name at the time who was crucified. More
evidence, in fact, than say, Julius Caesar ever existed.

[Status FIRM.]


-- 
  Wayne McDougall, BCNU

"I hate quotations." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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From: jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu (Joel Furr)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.fan.lemurs
Subject: Re: Terrifying Twinkies
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:01:28 GMT
Organization: Virginia Center for Lemur Fandom, Blacksburg, Virginia, USA (subscribe to alt.fan.lemurs TODAY)

In article <lm9j50INNlln@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> landauer@morocco.Eng.Sun.COM (Doug Landauer) writes:
>
>				"Twinkie, Twinkie,
>		    Little suet-filled sponge cake crisco log,
>			 Now I know just what you are."
>
>		      "Animal, Vegetable, Mineral, or Food?"
>
>	In an effort to clarify questions about the purported durability and
>unusual physical characteristics of Twinkies, we subjected the Hostess snack
>logs to the following experiments:
>
>EXPOSURE:
>	Twinkie was left on a ... window ledge for four days, during which
>time an inch and a half of rain fell.  Many flies were observed crawling across
>the Twinkie's surface, but contrary to hypothesis, birds -- even pigeons --
>avoided this potential source of sustenance.
>	Despite the rain and prolonged exposure to the sun, the Twinkie
>retained its original color and form.  When removed ... the Twinkie was found
>to be substantially dehydrated.  Cracked open, it was observed to have taken on
>the consistency of industrial foam insulation; the filling, however, retained
>its advertised "creaminess".
>
>RADIATION:
>	A Twinkie was placed in a conventional microwave oven, which was set
>for precisely 4 minutes -- the approximate cooking time of bacon.  After 20
>seconds, the oven began to emit the Twinkie's rich, characteristic aroma of
>artificial butter.  After 1 minute, this aroma began to resemble the acrid
>smell of burning rubber.  The experiment was aborted after 2 minutes, 10
>seconds, when thick, foul smoke began billowing from the top of the oven ... a
>second Twinkie was subjected to the same experiment ... this Twinkie leaked
>molten white filling ... when cooled, this now epoxy-like filling bonded the
>Twinkie to its plate, defying gravity; it was removed only upon application of
>a butter knife.
>
>EXTREME FORCE:
>	A Twinkie was dropped from a ninth-floor window, a fall of
>approximately 120 feet.  It landed right side up ... then bounced onto its
>back.  The expected "splatter" effect was not observed.  Indeed, the only
>discernible damage to the Twinkie was a narrow fissure on its underside ...
>otherwise, the Twinkie remained structurally intact.
>
>EXTREME COLD:
>	A Twinkie was placed in a conventional freezer for 24 hours.  Upon
>removal, the Twinkie was not found to be frozen solid, but its physical
>properties had noticeably "slowed" ... the filling was found to be the
>approximate consistency of acrylic paint.
>
>...
>
>Reprinted from SPY magazine, July 1989.
>-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>Doug.Landauer@sun.com         || I'd settle for Random Politeness
> SUNW[STE]->SunPro            || and Senseless Acts of Civility.
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From: sweeney@Ingres.COM (Tony Sweeney)
Subject: Re: AIDS cases reach 1 million, again....SPY
Reply-To: sweeney@Ingres.COM (Tony Sweeney)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:15:08 GMT

In article <mjenkins.728073334@cunews> mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson) writes:
[HIV+ number constant at 1M for several years}
>
>Comments?
>
I read recently that one in 175 London males tests HIV+ but I don't
recall the source of the figures. It was either from testing blood donors,
in which case we could expect it to be representative of the London
population, or from V.D. clinics, which would make it harder to
extrapolate from this datum. Nevertheless, if we assume this infection
rate across the whole U.S. population, from a total of ~300M people,
we can expect over 1.5M to be HIV+. A corollary of this is that
1) [Londoners] when you get the tube in the morning, there is a good bet
   that someone in your carriage is HIV+
2) Everyone knows someone who is HIV+ [assuming > 175 acquaintances per
   individual]

>Michael

Tony.
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From: Bruce.Tindall@launchpad.unc.edu (Bruce Tindall)
Subject: Re: Blacks on Star Trek 
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:20:06 GMT

In article <C1IwD7.FE3@specialix.com> jim@specialix.com (Jim Maurer) writes:
>The actress who played Nurse Chapel was Majel Barrett, and she was
>Gene Roddenberry's wife, *not* William Shatner's. 

OK.  I'm only going to say this once.  As Terry "heat emitting diode" Chan
has reminded us and posterity in the FAQ, a certain overhyped trivia tome
has Dalmatiel "Majel" Barrett married to Dr. Harold Urey, when in fact she
was married to Robert Urich, star of the oft-misspelled detective show
"Shurshill for Higher."  

And isn't it Nurse Chappell, as in Chappell Hill, Texas, not Chapel Hill,
North Carolina?  Of course, to use a very un-AFU expression, I could be
wr-wr-wr-wr-....

Bruce "Cecil the Seasick Sea Serpent never published an incorrect
Grape Nuts ingredient list" Tindall
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From: jane@soave.swdc.stratus.com (Jane Beckman)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Cuttin' the Rug
Date: 21 Jan 93 00:36:02 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc., San Jose, CA

>Much more important question:  what and where the hell did the phrase
>'cuttin' the rug' mean and where did it originate?
>
Way back when, when folks had gramophones, they rolled up the
rug to dance on the bare floor.  At least the old,
sober-minded old fogies did.  Those awful, inconsiderate young
folks danced stuff like the Grizzley Bear and the Charleston
and they *didn't roll up the rug!*  Often, since they were
dancing wearing nasty things like boots and heel and toe taps
and stuff, it cut and scuffed the rug.  Thus, to dance all
those decadent, dangerously lively dances became known as
"cutting a rug."  This was especially applied to jitterbug
style, which was really hard on rugs.


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"Every now and then, a big rock falls out of the sky, and everyone has 
a *very bad* day."  --from the PBS "Dinosaurs" special.
From: hatunen@netcom.com (David W Hatunen)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Drug Addicted Infants
Date: 23 Jan 93 20:53:25 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

>: >: Unfortunately, crack has not yet been around long enough to know
>: >: for sure about long-term effects. 
>: >
>: >Wrong. Some of the so called crack babies are in school. They do
>: >not show any impairment - in any way. Also, crack is only cocaine.
>: >It is not a magical new drug for which the effects are unknown.
>: >
>: >Whether the mother takes crack, or not, has nothing to do with
>: >whether the baby will suffer from other drug effects. That all
>: >depends on what the mother consumes. Just because the foetus is
>: >exposed to cocaine does not make it any more vulnerable to FAS.
>: >
>: >Bill

>: 	I believe what the original poster meant is that 'crack babies'
>: are likely to suffer from FAS or other similar conditions because women
>: (and men, but that's not really relevent here) who abuse crack cocaine
>: are likely to abuse other substances, such as alcohol, at the same time.
>
>Which is pretty much what I said. My disagreement was with the statement
>that we have not had crack addicts long enough to have some idea what
>effect the drug will have on infants.
>
>Bill

Never said that. Note cited phrase referred to LONG TERM effects.
Crack kids have barely reached school in any numbers. And we
certainly don't know yet about adolescence. 

Trust me: this poster is well aware of the effect on infants.
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From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: Remote Meter Reading (Re: Coke Machines)
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 03:04:36 GMT

In article <1jt011INNgkg@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> mag6@po.CWRU.Edu (Martin A. Gulaian) writes:
>My duplex house has remote gas and water meters. The remote gas meter
>apparently has some scaling factor - it counts arbitrary units that
>are converted to cubic feet of gas. The conversion factor depends on
>what model of gas meter you have... as my downstairs neighbor found out.
>The gas company replaced her meter, left the conversion factor at the
>wrong value, and six months later, when they discovered the error, hit
>her with a seven hundred dollar(ish) retroactive gas bill. Ouch.

She didn't notice that her bills were $100/month less than they used to be?

Ted "shoulda used Quicken" Frank
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From: cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf)
Subject: Re: British Constitution
Organization: /home/ludviga/cindy/.organization
	<1993Jan21.200126.4494@nezsdc.icl.co.nz>
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:15:33

Derek Tearne writes:
>Apart from the Native Americans who wandered over there _way_ before
Columbus
>was a gleam in his very great-grandsires eye, There was this viking
got
>there too - Leif Ericson I think his name was.  Or was it Steinar?

It was Leif.  Steinar was Leif's pet troll.

-Cindy Kandolf
 cindy@solan.unit.no
 Trondheim, Norway

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From: ags@seaman.cc.purdue.edu (Dave Seaman)
Subject: Re: 54-40..what does their name mean?
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:07:25 GMT

In article <9301252032.AA21973@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca>  
stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Steve Portigal) writes:
>  I just always figured 54-40 was just some stupid band name (although
> a decent band), when Al Bundy used the phrase "54-40 or fight" (not
> in context, only as a sample phrase) on Married With Children.
> 
> So what the hell does it mean?

There was once a border dispute between the U.S. and Canada on the Pacific  
coast. Our modern boundary is at the forty-ninth parallel, but Americans  
at the time wanted to claim the land as far north as 54 degrees, 40  
minutes. Hence, the slogan.

	Groucho Marx (to fat lady contestant on "You Bet Your Life":
	So, what are your measurements?

	Fat lady: I'm 54-40-54.

	Groucho: That'll go down in history along with "54-40 or fight."

--
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From: levene@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (Robert A. Levene)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Snapple linked to KKK, Operation Rescue? (long)
Date: 21 Jan 1993 08:16:25 -0600
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

> ... And why do
> drinks need this rabbinic stamp of approval anyway?

Ordinary 100% pure fruit juice drinks generally don't need one, but if
they include grape juice, they do need approval.  Wine-based drinks
also need approval (i.e., brandy, wine coolers).

Note that the major American-brewed beers are kosher as is, and don't
need stamps of approval, but some get them anyway as a marketing ploy.

Rob

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From: bill.duetschler@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Bill Duetschler) 
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Upside-down burglar
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:51:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: HAL 9000 BBS, W-NET HQ, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Reply-To: bill.duetschler@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Bill Duetschler) 

BN > : >Indeed, the E-sharp over middle-C string is a crucial component for    
BN > : >exercising the infamous and shadowy New York Method.  
BN > :   
BN > : There is no such note as E-sharp.  One half-step above E is F.
BN > : Sometimes you will see an E-sharp written on a piece of music, but
BN > : it's to be played as an F.  There is no key called E-sharp on a piano.
BN >
BN > Since the note is written, it does indeed exist. As you state, E-sharp
BN > is the same as F natural. In the same manner B-sharp is C natural.

For the umpteenth time in this interminable thread, NO.  It depends on
what tempering system you're using.

For many years, instruments used what was called "just temperament."
In this tempering system, if A=440Hz, then the E above equaled 660Hz,
and the other notes in between were simple geometric ratios (i think
the major third was 4/3, making the C# in the above example 586.67Hz).

This made certain keys (commonly B flat, F, C, G, A, D, and E) perfectly
in tune.  Other keys, because of the tempering system, would sound
perfectly wretched, because under this system, G-flat and F# are not
quite the same note.  Nor are E# and F-natural.

Even temperament, invented about the time of J.S. Bach, sets the
frequency of each note in the twelve tone scale at (2^(1/12)) times
the one preceding it.  If A=440Hz, the E above it equals
659.26Hz--very slightly but imperceptibly (to most people) out of
tune.  This makes all keys out of tune by the same slight amount,
instead of having some keys perfectly "in" and others so far out that
you can't write in them.  Under this system the math works out so that
E-sharp and F-natural are the same note.

Furrfu.

Bill "What good does all this do _me_?  I play in a rock band"
Duetschler

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From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Johnny Carson
Date: 26 Jan 1993 22:16:58 GMT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

RE
  +_Newsweek_:
  +
  +  About as far as Carson ever went was to ogle a starlet's cleavage and
  +  crack: 

linden@positive.Eng.Sun.COM (Peter van der Linden) writes:
  
  +How hilarious that the journalist/copy editor managed to get that 
  +entire phrase into print!    If you need this explaining to you, 
  +tough.

What I was wondering was did Carson do this simultaneously, and if
so, how did he do it?

Terry "Has anyone seen any shows where this was done?" Chan
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From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: ulegends in the media
Keywords: Will hold grudges for food. [Example of ready made joke.]
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:46:43 GMT
Organization: Austerlitz, Gershovitz, and Carmichael


Drew Lawson writes:
 Derek Tearne writes:
>
>>Derek "Elvis hates birthday parties" Tearne
>
>Yea, but he _loves_ the cake and ice cream.
>
You know the Elvis-as-butt-of-every-joke-under-the-sun routine has
reached the saturation point when -- and I kid you not -- an attorney 
advertising his services on Lexington TV, shows a no-cameras-in-the-
courtroom style drawing of him [the attorney] arguing a case, and the 
E-man himself is off in a corner as a juror. [Fat, jump-suited E-man]

When I overthrow the Emperor Ming and my long list of grievances is
read at court, who will stand blameless? I wonder....
-- 
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Subject: Re: Okay, if you're so smart ...
From: hugh@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Hugh Grierson)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 22:16:48 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

In article <CINDY.93Jan18203313@solan10.solan.unit.no> cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf) writes:
>How do you get meat from a 'pooter?  (One year's supply of lutefisk
>for the best answer.)

You stand very close, and scream at the top of your voice
   "GIVE ME SOME MEAT"
(this might not always work first time)

ObUL: lutefisk is listed amongst the toxic substances which are prohibited
from import into New Zealand

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Subject: Divorce Rates (was Re: Tip Waitresses, Not Cows)
From: kubo@boucher.harvard.edu (Tal Kubo)
Date: 26 Jan 93 06:14:45 EST
Organization: Dept. of Math, Harvard Univ.

snopes writes: 
>
> [From: The Economist  April 25th 1992]
>
> SIR -- It was surprising to see in your article on divorce in China
> (March 14th) the now thoroughly discredited statistic that "half of
> America's marriages fail."  This misstatement is based on the fact that in
> a given recent year the number of divorces in America equals approximately
> half the number of that year's marriages.  As divorces relate not just to
> a particular year's marriages, however, but to all marriages then existent,
> the rate of failed marriages in America is about 11%.

If you change the definition of "divorce rate" then of course you'll
get a different answer.  The Economist letter proposed asking 
not what fraction of marriages end in divorce, but what fraction 
of all marriages break down each year.   Only the first definition 
makes sense if the question is "what fraction of marriages end in 
divorce".  To see why, suppose that 20 years are "inserted" into each
marriage.  Then the rate of failed marriages would stay the same, but 
if measured as proposed in the letter, it would drop. 


Tal   kubo@math.harvard.edu
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From: lawson@acuson.com (Drew Lawson)
Subject: Re: Jesus' Birthday
Reply-To: lawson@acuson.com (Drew Lawson)
Organization: ACUSON, Mountain View, CA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:04:28 GMT

In article <lm0dm8INN95c@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> linden@positive.Eng.Sun.COM (Peter van der Linden) writes:

>(Did you ever notice how humor loses something when you explain it?)


I don't understand.  Just what do you mean by that?


Drew "couldn't resist -- Monday morning" Lawson
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From: rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor)
Subject: Re: Acronyms & Funny names
Organization: Fulcrum Communications
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 11:46:06 GMT

In article <1k1tdqINNfle@lynx.unm.edu> mycroft7@vesta.unm.edu (Cliff Coy) writes:
>
>
>> HIV - HIV virus   - Human Imm.. Virus virus
>> ICBM - ICBM missile - Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile missile 
>
>> HARM - HARM missile - High Speed Anti-Radiation Missile missile
>> (anti-radar)
>
>My favorite has always been a govt poster describing a battleship's
>defenses.  It included such lovelies as the anti-anti-missile-
>missile. ;-)
>
>--Cliff

LCD display 	- Liquid Crystal Display display
VDU display 	- Video Display Unit display
VDU 		- Visual (!) Display Unit
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From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Re: Pussy Incident
Organization: NYSERNet, Inc.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:01:03 GMT

In <930119202816.10a4@VAX.CSUN.EDU> VBCSC03L@VAX.CSUN.EDU (snopes) writes:


>  Maybe somebody should find out whether Zsa Zsa has even appeared on
>  "The Tonight Show".

Wasn't she on the show sometime between December 25 of one year and
January 1 of the following year?
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From: pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (Jeremy Mathers)
Subject: Re: Snapple
Reply-To: pynq@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: D. J. Dougherty & Associates
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 00:19:50 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.202504.11699@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai) writes:
>
>Could it be that the snapple=anti-abortion rumor started after
>they started advertising on Rush Limbaugh's radio show.  He
>being strongly pro-life, it seems like the connection I would
>make.

Yeah, but, Snapple was also pushed heavily by Howard Stern on his TV show.
(I should say, Howard and friends - "friends" were alway scantily clad...)

Though I don't know for sure one way or the other, somehow, I doubt HS
is pro-life...

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From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: The horse's butt -- err -- mouth
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:28:02 GMT

In article <43891@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> pashley@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Montykins) writes:
>2) Given that taping the Newlywed Game was a necessity, why high band quad?

We haven't had very many good mottos lately, so I nominate this one.

>   (Sure, I tape MST3K and USA Up All Night, but geez . . .)

Ted "only tapes Tom Selleck movies to look for ghosts" Frank
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From: bwatson@nyx.cs.du.edu (bruce watson)
Subject: Re: Jesus' Birthday
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 21:01:01 GMT

Author John Meier suggests 7 or 6 B.C. in Nazareth, not Bethlehem.

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