From: traub@rtf.bt.co.uk (Michael Traub)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.animals
Subject: Re: hunting myth #3
Date: 10 Apr 92 07:30:42 GMT
Organization: BT Customer Systems, Brighton, UK

In article <1992Apr8.163442.4896@ac.dal.ca> robinson@ac.dal.ca writes:
>In article <1992Apr6.071845.76@rtf.bt.co.uk>, traub@rtf.bt.co.uk (Michael Traub) writes:
>> In article <1992Apr3.095415.4769@ac.dal.ca> robinson@ac.dal.ca writes:
>>>In article <1992Apr1.093808.18725@rtf.bt.co.uk>, traub@rtf.bt.co.uk (Michael Traub) writes:
>>>> In article <1992Mar31.111202.4667@ac.dal.ca> robinson@ac.dal.ca writes:
>>>>>In article <1992Mar28.090948.9740@rtf.bt.co.uk>, traub@rtf.bt.co.uk (Michael Traub) writes:
>>>>>> In article <1992Mar27.091440.4572@ac.dal.ca> robinson@ac.dal.ca writes:
>>>>>>>A sense of security and a sense of satisfaction are both large parts of 
>>>>>>>hunting.  But the biggest reason for hunting is because it is *FUN*. :-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I seem to remember I found squashing snails was fun when I was eight
>>>>>> years old. I grew out of it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Interesting.  I wonder if one could argue that the AR faction is motivated 
>>>>>by feelings of regret and guilt at their own past actions of cruelty.  I 
>>>>>wonder if investigating some of them along these lines might turn up 
>>>>>anything interesting.....
>>>>>
>>>> I didn't mention regret or guilt and it was not my reason for giving up
>>>> animal produce.
>>>
>>>No you didn't, but given your statement above I think it is fair to point 
>>>out that your stated motivations are probably nothing more than an attempt 
>>>at rationalisation of *your* actions, which kinda leaves you hoisted by 
>>>your own petard, so to speak.
>>>
>> 
>> I'm confused as to how your childish enjoyement of killing creatures
>> represents a rationalisation of my actions.
>> 
>
>I'm not surprised you're confused.  But *my* enjoyment is not a 
>rationalizaton of *your* actions.  Your past enjoyment makes it seem as 
>though your current stated motivations for your current actions are nothing 
>more than a rationalzation.  If you still don't get it, don't bother asking 
>how so. :-)
>
That's it play stupid since you've backed yourself into a corner.

>Additionally, my enjoyment comes not from the killing, but from the 
>hunting.  The kill is the culmination and is final proof that the hunt was 
>a success.  So your alteration of my statements (I said I enjoy hunting, 
>you translated that to I enjoy killing) is patently false, but is a 
>distortion of fact that is typical of you and your ilk so I am not 
>surprised.
>
Oh so you don't actually kill the creatures you hunt then? Well sorry
I must have gotten this hunting lark all wrong.

>As to the matter of childishness, I feel your remarks have left little 
>doubt as to who in this forum is prime candidate for a charge of 
>childishness, at least in its pejorative sense.
>
Say it loud enough and someone might believe you.

>John Robinson                  Only criminals, tyrants, and cowards have
>robinson@ac.dal.ca                 reason to fear the armed, honest citizen.
>DOD #0069

That comment above makes it pretty obvious which one of us is the child
around here.

"Only criminal, tyrants and cowards have reason to fear the nuclear armed,
honest country."



-- 
Michael Traub
BT Customer Systems, Brighton Systems Centre. traub@rtf.bt.co.uk
Newsgroups: talk.politics.animals