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From: 126580828@cats.ucis.vill.edu (!GENTILE, JOSEPH)
Subject: Re: How to make the WWF better (10 ways if possible)
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In article <7030@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, rtcst3+@pitt.edu (Robert   T Conticello) writes...
>In article <2OCT199213503494@cats.ucis.vill.edu> 126580828@cats.ucis.vill.edu (!GENTILE, JOSEPH) writes:
>>
>>one more... a light heavyweight division. (This could help win over Liger.
>>Imagine Liger v. Owen Hart!)
>>
>  Why would you have to imagine Liger v. Owen Hart?  It's happened many
>  times when Owen wrestled for New Japan.  Actually though, my wish is the
>  opposite of yours, I'd like to see Owen Hart in WCW.  Wouldn't a light
>  heavyweight tournament with Liger, Pillman, Hart, Benoit, Armstrong, and
>  Douglas be great?  Not to mention that WWF is once again wasting the
>  talents of Owen Hart burying him in prelim. matches.  I hope his contract
>  ends soon (he's been in the WWF nearly a year now, right?) and he gets
>  fed up and leaves. But I won't hold my breath ...
> 
>-Rob C.

Allow me to clarify,

     Due to the stupidity of Bill Watts, The WCW light-heavy division has gone
down the tubes.  Like it or not McMahon has his publicity machine, which could
get a light-heavy division off the ground.  Once established, I feel that He
could easily sign Liger, along with Owen Hart, and perhaps Jeff Jarret, and
even Bruce Hart (He DID appear in one of the interviews leading up to the 
Bulldog v Bret Hart match at SS.
      Also, I never knew that a O Hart v Liger match took place! Where and
when did it happen, and what was the result?


                                I won't rest until the Midnight Express
                                              Returns!!!

                                         Joe"Chaos"Gentile
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From: bobh@orbital.demon.co.uk (Bob Hutton)
Subject: Bret Hart - Oh No He Isn't - Oh Yes He Is!
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:24:25 +0000

Bret Hart's clean pinfall victory over Ric Flair in Los Angeles, after
which Hart was awrded the belt, which was apparently seen on Channel 4
in the area has for some Tunneyesque reason been voided.

Hart won the title officially at a TV taping Monday night in Saskatoon,
Saskatchewan when Flair submitted to the Sharpshooter.

This is official. It will be seen on this weekend's syndies. Quite why
Hellwig being a prat should curtail Flair's title reign is weird. Even
after Hart supposedly won the title in L.A., they announced Flair .v.
Warrior for the strap for the next card on November 14th.

Bob Hutton
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From: Otto Heuer #3 <ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com>
Subject: Re: NEW WWF WORLD CHAMPION
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Bob Hutton writes:

> Hopefully this will get out sufficiently quickly to stop me from looking
> silly. Further to my post concerning The L.A. Times report that Bret
> Hart had taken the World strap at last Saturday's L.A. House show, this
> has been confirmed, unless I'm being wound up something rotten.
> 
> Apparently Hellwig has been getting a bit demanding so they've decided
> against an immediate title run for him. The title will apparently go,
> Hart, a heel (unknown), Backlund, setting up Backlund .v. Hogan for The
> WrestleMania 9 Main Event.

Weird.  Not sure why they bothered giving it to Flair in the first place if
he's not going to have  any major  angles with  it.   I also  don't see any
major angles with Hart having the  belt, so  I'm kinda  wondering why Vince
didn't just pass the belt form Savage to the unnamed heel (Razor Ramon?)

Vince has been one to not have his World Title change hands all that often.
Maybe he's trying to out-do Watts in the unpredictability department...

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From: Otto Heuer #3 <ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com>
Subject: Re: WWF Title Change 
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John M writes:

| luther@i5160e.nrl.navy.mil (Luther) writes:

| >Either I've missed some posts, or no one has really touched on
| >one significant point in this whole Hart-beats-Flair discussion:
| >
| >This is the second time in a row that the WWF World Championship
| >belt has changed hands at a regular *non pay-per-view* event.
| 
|       My brother and I were talking about this last week (before
|       the Flair -> Hart change).  We both felt that there was a 
|       good chance Flair would not be holding the belt come SS.
|       "Why ?" you ask.... Well as I've stated before, Flair will
|       always be an "outsider" in the WWF.  Keeping that in mind,
|       I don't think Vince wants Flair's image to be immortalized on
|       a WWF videocasette (sp ?).

Back when Vince snapped up Flair, there was a lot of talk on here about
Flair getting $2 million and two world title reigns.  I wasn't sure at
the time if the info was all that good (I don't remember who posted it
or what his source was), but I'm starting to believe it.

Flair gets the world title twice, keeps Flair out of the WCW/NWA for
two years (cutting one of their top draws), and doesn't have to give Flair
all that much of a push, since both his title reigns were short-ish
and got almost zero exposure on the second one.

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From: dkempste@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David N Kempster)
Subject: Re: New WWF Champion
Organization: The Ohio State University
 Tscherne) writes:
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:22:49 GMT

>>than about 3 weeks.
>>5.Ultimate Warrior loses to Slaughter to set up Wrestlemania match. Slaughter

>>immediatly drops to Hogan. Heel reign 3 weeks.
>
>Incorrect.  Slaughter won the title at RR in January and lost it at WM
>VII in late March or early April.
>
I had thought it was during a Saturday Night's Main Event - oh well I guess I 
was wrong. But this doesn't effect what I was saying much. It just means 
Slaughter had the same title length as Ric Flair did his first time. Still only
about 2 months.
                                                 David Kempster
From: raj1@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Crook and Chase TNN
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:19:50 GMT
Organization: University of Scranton

Did anybody out there see Crook and Chase on TNN?  I don't usually watch it
but my brother was flipping throught the channels this afternoon and TNN was
showing a replay of Crook and Chase from last night (at least I think it was
from last night).  Jake the Snake was on.  At first I thought it was an old
repeat because how often do WCW wrestlers go on a show promoting a ppv.
Later Jake started talking about HH and his 'Spin the Wheel make the Deal' 
match with Sting.  Anyway, it was classic Jake.  He had his bag with him.  It
went something like this:

Jake:  "I got something to show you." (Jake starts to untie his bag)
Female Host:  "That is o.k.  You don't have to bring it out."
Male Host:  "Don't you need a glove?"
Jake:  "What I am going to show you I don't need a glove."  (By this time the
female host is not even looking and Jake throws something between the
hosts and the female host screams and jumps.  It turned out it was only a
t-shirt of the wheel.) 

Funny as hell.  Me and my brother were laughing our asses off.  Jake eventually
does take out the snake from the bag.  It was a different one.  Jake said that
it was an Egyptian King Cobra.  The female host was rolled up in a ball on the
couch.  She hates snakes.  Jake was trying to get the snake to bite a 
microphone.  Jake says he has like 300 snakes.  The male host asked were he
kept all of them and Jake said, "In a barn.  You want directions?"

The whole skirt was only a couple of minutes and it happened at the end of the
show.  I'll have to watch later in the week just to see if Sting or somebody
else comes on the show.  This is the same show that Macho Man was on before
the Summerslam ppv.

Robert
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Subject: Re: NWA Jr. Heavyweight Champ?
From: west@uncavx.unca.edu
Date: 13 Oct 92 10:06:25 -0500
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
Nntp-Posting-User: west

In article <1bd2llINN5li@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, kipilman@cats.ucsc.edu (Lou Kipilman) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Oct12.041046.27872@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gjh2j@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Jeff Hawkins) writes:
>> [comments deleted]
>> Gawd I miss the old NWA Mid-Atlantic days......Tully Blanchard, Ric Flair...
>>.come back...we need you....(blatant attempt at nostalgia). At least Slater
>> is still there, any hopes of a Murdoch return or a resurrection of Buzz
>>Sawyer (hey maybe Papa Shango could do it 8-) )
>>
> 
[comments deleted]
> Talk about nostalgia: Last week I rented The Best of Starrcade '83-'87, a
> four-hour compendium of good old NWA rasslin. All matches were shown in
> entirety. Highlights: Race/Flair cage match, Magnum/Blanchard "I Quit"
> match, Piper/Valentine dog collar match.
[sig deleted]

You're not the only one who misses the mid-Atlantic days.  The high point
of the year when I was younger was Starrcade; I think I was at all of them
from 84-87.  The Magnum/Blanchard "I Quit" match was the stiffest match
I ever saw, except for a Flair / Dory Funk Jr. match here in Asheville in
83 or so that ended up looking like a bad day at the blood bank...

Now look at wrestling.  WWF sucks, WCW is drifting, SMW isn't on a
satellite.  AAA and EMLL are fun, but aren't what I think of as
"wrestling."  A tape like "Best of Starrcade" lets us know just how
far we've fallen...

Mark West   WEST@UNCA.EDU  "It's Vader Time!!"
From: markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205)
Subject: test
Organization: BNR, Inc.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:04:49 GMT

This is a test.

-- 
Andrew W. Markham (markham@bnr.ca)
Bell Northern Research, Inc.
From: jblixt@neon.cdc.com (Jon Blixt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.misc
Subject: RUBL
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:51:16 GMT
Reply-To: jblixt@mips.COM (Jon Blixt)
Organization: MINE Mindless Idiot Nonothings Everywhere

THIS is a repost.

I am starting a fantasy league over the internet called RUBL.
Real Usenet Basketball League.

All those interested in joining or who want more info, just
e-mail me.

This league uses NBA players and lasts the entire season so
sign up only if you are seriously interested.

RUBL commish,

Jon
--------
Jon Blixt                  I must not fear, Fear is the mind-killer, Fear is 
Control Data               the little-death that bring total obliteration,  I
Minnepolis, MN             will face my fear,  I will permit it to pass over
jblixt@neon.aqeng.cdc.com  me and through me, And when it has gone past I will
                           turn the inner eye to see its path, Where the fear
                           has gone there will be nothing,  Only I will remain.
                                       - Bene Gesserit Litany Against Fear
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Vitale's Basketball Rag
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:24:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Oct15.162406.14720
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison

In article <1bke1hINNk0j@uwm.edu> paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes:
>>> All-Conference Team:
>>> F - Calbert Cheaney, Sr., IU
>>> F - Chris Webber, So., Michigan  (DJW - finally, somebody got it right)
>>> C - Acie Earl, Sr. Iowa  (DJW - this is his year)
>>> G - Jalen Rose, So., Michigan
>>> G - Tracy Webster, Jr., Wisconsin
>>
>   I gotta admit to being kinda surprised that Webster made this list. The 
>   people in Madison know this kid's a serious talent, but I wasn't sure if
>   anybody else did. I still think, for some odd reason, Vitale has a soft
>   spot in his heart for Wisconsin.

Vitale and everybody else saw the statistics that Webster got, and they all
saw him burn them when Wisconsin played their teams.  It's no secret that
Webster is the best PG in the Big 10.  Webster will probably make the
coaches All-Conference team too.  Now the media's All-Conference team might
be a different issue altogether.

Webster was 2nd-team last year, and with Woody Austin and Jimmy Jackson
gone, it opens the door for 2 more guards, naturally the two 2nd-team
guards.  No big surprise here...
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
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From: ewstroup@cc.utah.edu (ERIC W. STROUP)
Subject: Ed "Hootie" Johnson
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I posted a similar message a little bit back but got no response.

Does anyone have any info on Ed "Hootie" Johnson from Lamar Univ. in Texas.
He claims to have played last year against teams such as UNLV and Oklahoma.
He also states that he was a High School player in Detroit.

Thanks in advance.

Eric
ewstroup@cc.utah.edu

Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: currin@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD D CURRIN)
Subject: The "ONE" Great Rivalry in Hoops 
Originator: currin@poult3.bae.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: currin@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD D CURRIN)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:14:13 GMT


Just gotta be Tarkanian vs. the NCAA. No other other rivalry could compare with
this ritual.

RC
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: dwest@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dan West)
Subject: Rashard Griffith Recruiting thought
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:40:23 GMT

Didn't someone say that Rashard was visiting Columbus this weekend. If
so he saw that Buckeyes loose a tough game, but more importantly he
saw Jim Jackson being honored as the "Male athlete of the year". Nice
job on Randy's part to have some of the big recruits to come in on a
weekend where 94,000+ football fans are screaming loader for a single
basketball player than they do for the football team. I'm sure the
recruits were impressed. Just a thought.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: sjl@TEFS1.acd.com (Scot Leibacher)
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Keywords: Ala/Ark
Organization: Applied Computing Devices, Inc., Terre Haute IN
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:55:04 GMT

In article <BvvLH7.KC8@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler) writes:
>In article <92361@netnews.upenn.edu> arent@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (William J. Arent) writes:
>>
>>Two comments:
>>1. I'm from the West and really don't see what's the big rivalry 
>>   between Indiana and Purdue.  The history is there, I concede, but
>>   Purdue just hasn't matched up with them for quite a while (not
>>   since the unfulfilled days of Everett Stephens, Mitchell, etc in 198_?
>>   I'd rather watch an Indiana-Michigan game, since that one might
>>   be CONTESTED.
>
>	Wrong.  When was Bob Knight's first year in Bloomington?  1971-72?
>	Beginning then, Purdue is 19-24 against IU.  Nobody else that
>	has played IU that much has done as well.  Since Gene Keady
>	came on board at Purdue in 1980-81, Purdue is 10-13, about the
>	same as the whole period.  Thus, Purdue has been competitive
>	with IU.  It's the greatest rivalry in the country for fan
>	enthusiasm, with maybe Duke-UNC or UK-UL being at the same
>	level...
>-- 
>-------------------------------
>| Randy Peppler               |
>| Illinois State Water Survey |
>| peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu    |

       I agree with all these great battles and as an IU alumn, can say
that even basketball fans in these part (rare though it is) perk up and 
take notice when IU/Purdue clash. But....speaking of rivalries, I haven't
seen the old Notre Dame/UCLA "hatred" mentioned here. They haven't met all
that much in recent years but at one time this one one of the hottest, 
eas it not?

       -Scot
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 16 Oct 1992 09:28:06 CDT
From: Chuck Amsler <U52809@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject:    How much is the NIT title worth?

I small "discussion" has started about NIT titles being a kind of
National Championship.  Clearly, at one time the NIT was as or even
more prestigious than the NCAA, but that was a long time ago when
the NCAA tourney was fairly new.  IMHO, it is absurd to call a
"modern" NIT title a "national championship", but I wonder just
what a NIT title is worth today to a team and their fans.  I've
always thought that its biggest worth was doubling the number of
teams that get to end the post-season with a victory celebration.

If you had some magical power to choose between your team winning
the NIT and your team going to the NCAA and losing, how many rounds
in the NCAA (before the loss) would cause you to choose the
eventual NCAA loss over the NIT championship?  Is getting to the
Final Four better than the NIT crown?  Is "tieing for #33" (by
losing in the first round of the NCAA) better than winning the NIT
and coming in #65?  I'd answer "yes" to the first and "no" to the
second.  My subjective fan pride scale puts winning the NIT at
about the same level as getting to the Sweet Sixteen before losing
[+/- one round, 95% confidence interval :-) ].  What do you think?

  -- Chuck Amsler                    U52809@UICVM.UIC.EDU
From: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:39:06 GMT
Reply-To: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC

In article <matthew.719111523@base.cs.ucla.edu>, matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher) writes:
>'Course I don't see what's wrong will celebrating whatever achievements 
>your team may have made on the court, be they NCAA titles, NIT 
>semi-finalist, or highest percentage of graduated players.  

Hear, hear! If UNC wants to put up a banner celebrating the vastness of Dean's
nose, that's OK by me.  If Duke wants to put up a giant sized mural of 
Christian Laettner posing in a swimsuit, let 'em do it.  And if UCLA wants
to create a quilt made of Pac-10 championship banners, and sell it to the
masses, more power to 'em.
RC, humorless Duke fan.
	Robert Clough, DUMC (though still not speaking for them)
"Give someone a fish, and they'll fish for a day.  Teach someone to fish, and
they'll fish for a lifetime."--J.D. Quayle
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: NCAA Magazine predictions
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Distribution: usa
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:16:45 CDT

In article <1992Oct7.202143.16499@news.acns.nwu.edu> scooter@antarctica.earth.nwu.edu (Scott Relyea) writes:
>
>Northwestern in 10th???  Penn St. in 11th??? Who came up with this???
>The Wildcats never get ANY respect, and this year's team, even without
>Todd Leslie, is much more experienced, cohesive and returns the two
>academic ineligibles from last year, a formidable team by NU standards.
>Not to say they'll challenge the upper tier of the Bigger Ten this year,
>but they will NOT finish so close to the cellar - they have more talent
>than either Wisconsin or Minnesota...Potential is rarely reached by
>the 'Cats on the hoops court, but the potential exists, don't sell them so
>short - just look at the football team, rated nearly last in the country
>for much of the season, then CRUSHING Purdue...
>Anyway, just watch out for the Wildcats Big Ten..
>
>And give us just a little respect once in a while!

Their recent basketball performances lead to the lack of respect.

Where is Northwestern more talented than Wisconsin?  Give me a
position-by-position analysis, and I'll agree or disagree.
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: maryb@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Kansas Jayhawks get another recruit
Date: 13 Oct 92 23:26:34 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

I just heard on the Channel 9 news from Kansas City tonight that Roy
Williams has received verbal commitment from Vaughn, who he has been
recruiting (and I think I've seen reports on r.s.b.c. about that).

As the story went, perhaps this would help take the sting out of losing
Winfield, who chose Missouri.  I think the story was written that way
because the news anchor is a big Missouri fan.

Anyway, I wanted to share that.  Sorry I don't have first names.  I was
working on the Jayhawk Postings to the football.college news group and
got just the sketchy details.

Kansas Mary
From: sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Best Rivalry in College Hoops
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:22:05 GMT
	<1992Oct9.161134.20910@b30.ingr.com> <92361@netnews.upenn.edu>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

}} In article <92361@netnews.upenn.edu> arent@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (William J. Arent) writes:
}} 
}} 1. I'm from the West and really don't see what's the big rivalry 
}}    between Indiana and Purdue.  The history is there, I concede, but
}}    Purdue just hasn't matched up with them for quite a while

I can't dispute that Purdue hasn't had the talent that IU has had, but
it just adds more to the rivalry that Purdue upsets IU with
regularity.

Trust me, Gene Keady would give his left nut to beat IU, and the
converse is true for Bobby Knight to beat Purdue.  NOTHING gets under
Bobby's skin more than losing to Purdue (which, of course, makes it
all the more fun when Purdue beats IU).

sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:
                    ect. is meaningless; etc. == et cetera

                  I meant what I said, and said what I meant.
           An elephant's faithful, one hundred percent. (Dr. Seuss)