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From: pratta@rpi.edu (Anthony Edward Prattico)
Subject: Re: class rivalries at colleges
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 04:57:18 GMT

In article <26SEP199216024867@venus.tamu.edu> lat1553@venus.tamu.edu (TEDESCO, LAUREEN ANN) writes:

>   These distinctions haven't entirely died out.  Here at Texas A&M,
>   the Corps of Cadets is still the tradition-keeping body on campus.
>   So, the sophomores each get assigned a freshman to make miserable.
>   Aside from corporate freshman-heckling, these sophomores monitor
>   the length of freshie showers (96 seconds each for this year's
>   Class of '96), take away their watches, tell them they can't bring
>   their books to classes (this particular restriction is not
>   officially sanctioned), and find millions of ways to abase, humiliate,
>   shame the latest additions to their ranks.  Pleasant custom.
>   Laureen T.

In these days of lawsuits, sexual harassment cases, assaults cases, rapes,
and stalking laws, I'm surprised this is allowed to happen. It is nothing more
than harassment, or a legal form of hazing. If anybody had pulled this on me
my freshman year they would have ended up in the Dean of Students office or in
front of the j-board.

Here at RPI the class distinctions fade very quickly, although this years
frosh are a lot rowdier and more anti-frat than past years so spend more time
in places where upperclassmen see them, like in the dining hall. I have a lot 
of friends in each class and a bunch of friends who are grad students as well.

One reason that has changed this in addition to the soldiers from WWII is that
many colleges that had previously been all male started admitting women. This 
is not intended to sound sexist, but simply a statement of fact. Upperclassmen
were now forced to treat the freshman class differently, and many traditions
suffered, like drinking and fighting songs, required apparel (Like beanies) 
and other things. And when dorms became coed, even greater restrictions were
placed on what went on. Things like quiet hours and dorm patrols became the 
norm, replacing other things. Breakage and theft fees were added to deter
vandalism and security departments were formed. Here, in the middle of the 
night, the campus is very quiet. The upperclass dorms are almost deathly silent
as there are no hall sports, parties or anything at all. We've all retreated
behind dead-bolted doors trying to forget ever being a freshman. Jobs and
futures occupy many of our thoughts, and education suddenly seems to be some-
thing very serious. There's not enough time anymore to do everything, including
hassling the freshman, let alone doing things for our own benefit. We've grown
up a lot quicker and under a lot different circumstances than the students of 
years ago. College is not an option anymore, it seems. It's become almost a
necessity.

-Anthony Prattico  pratta@rpi.edu    Anthony_Prattico@mts.rpi.edu

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: zarr@lk-hp-7.hut.fi (Mari (Black Panther) Sepp{)
Subject: Re: parking tickets
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: 03 Oct 92 08:37:49 GMT

In article <039nvyf@lynx.unm.edu> jfreter@triton.unm.edu (The Myth) writes:

>   In article <Bv3MuI.E8H@acsu.buffalo.edu> v201lrxa@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (BILL S. PRESTON, ESQ.) writes:
>>maybe we can start a new thread about parking (or lack thereof).......

>   Yes, at UNM, there are only 5000 parking spaces that need to be shared
>   among 25,000 students and around 5,000 staff.  Few people live on campus,
>   so most people drive or bike in.  The bus system sucks eggs in this town
>   and easier takes 10 times the amount of time to cross town than it takes
>   to drive or bike.

We have 'enough' parking spaces, the catch is that their location is really
stupid.  Part of the students live on campus and even though it is maybe 2km 
to the farthest buildings students don't drive to their classes.  No, they
aren't that fit and excited to exercise, but the closest parking spaces have 
been taken by the faculty by the time students wake up and it is no use to 
park in the available spaces - the walking you have to do is the same as 
from your room.  Some students, who live off campus, use busses (the bus 
system in Finland is great), but those, who have to drive, get their morning 
exercise :-(.

There has been an uproar lately.  Some of the closest spaces to the buildings
have been changed to faculty only parking lots and those students, who wake
up early enough, now have to walk anyway the incredible distances.

And wrongly parked cars aren't ticketed by the school.  If you receive a
ticket, it is from the city and you better pay it.  (Same ticket as you get
if you park badly outside campus.)  The cars aren't ticketed that often,
but I can't afford the 180 Fmk = $45 they ticket us when they do.  

Mari "If I wanted the exercise I would have biked...."
From: GRS00041@APPSTATE.EDU (Shannon G. Frady)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Renaming Hallowed Institutions
Date: 4 Oct 92 15:57:16 GMT
Organization: Appalachian State University
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Appalachian State University is, more appropriately, Alcoholic State U.

Shannon
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 09:07:03 EDT
From: <HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Tuition Increases (WAS Re: Renaming Hallowed Institutions
 <92278.233932DCM115@psuvm.psu.edu>

In article <92278.233932DCM115@psuvm.psu.edu>, Doug Morack
<DCM115@psuvm.psu.edu> says:
>
>     The fee is used for administrative purposes only....  The CAC (Penn State
>Center for Academic Computing) gets few if any funds form this fee.  The fee
>is
>used for registration and other admionistrative purposes (which we will most
>likely never know).   That is the only point I was trying to make....  whether
>that fee also entitles a student access to the mainframe is left to the
>opinion
>of each student at PSU....  For the record, I don't think that it does entitle
>use of the mainframe....  [the rest of this discussion was taken to private
>e-mail and personal messages....  and for the most part solved.  =)]
>
>-Doug

I did do some checking with the administration, and I do need to clarify where
I was coming from.  Doug is correct in saying that the fee is solely for the
use of administrative computing and does not entitle a student to a big iron
account.  However, this is apparantly not well known by the faculty of the
University either, because I was told when I was a freshling that the fee
was for just such a reason and again this year (a junior now) by yet another
misinformed faculty member.  I do apologize for causing a stir among the
P$U Computer Lab Ops and have smoothed out some of the feathers locally.

I guess I'll have to learn not to believe anything that my Instructors tell
me!  :-)   Nah, I never really believe them anyway.

*  Hans C. Masing        |  "When you go in for a job interview, I  *
*  HCM100@PSUVM.psu.edu  |   think a good thing to ask is if they   *
*  Penn State MIS Dept.  |   ever press charges." - Jack Handey     *
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From: michaelb@cse.fau.edu (Michael Rogero Brown)
Subject: Re: Computer Lab Operator Geeks
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:48:06 GMT

In article <37268@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> jma@reef.cis.ufl.edu (John 'Vlad' Adams) writes:
>Did michaelb@cse.fau.edu really type:
>}  I didn't know college presidents were politicians.  Ours signs himself as
>}  "President and Professor".  Heck, I was aware of this article 'cause the
>}  chair of our department make copies and put them in all the profs mailboxes.
>
>*ALL* college presidents are politicians.
>
Oh.   Thank you for clearing that up.   That makes me feel much better.


-- 
<<                                                               >>
<< Michael R. Brown    CS Graduate Student-Florida Atlantic Univ >>
<< Internet: michaelb@sol.cse.fau.edu                            >>
<< BitNet: m_brown@fauvax                                        >>
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From: eigenstr@cs.rose-hulman.edu (Todd R. Eigenschink)
Subject: Re: parking tickets
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
	<92273.114341KWF102@psuvm.psu.edu>
	<TROCH.92Oct1111044@gandalf.Rutgers.EDU>
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 19:33:37 GMT

In article <TROCH.92Oct1111044@gandalf.Rutgers.EDU> troch@gandalf.Rutgers.EDU (Rod Troch) writes:

>   >>>>> "Kevin" == Kevin Furrow <KWF102@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>	   Kevin> do it.  My roommate once got a $10.00 parking ticket.
>	   Kevin> So, he went to a local bank, got 1,000 pennies (all in
>	   Kevin> those 50 cent rolls) and took the pennies to the police
>	   Kevin> station.  They took it, said thanks, that's all.  Maybe
>	   Kevin> he should have tried the $100 bill trick.
>
>   What is the $100 bill trick?
>
>   Rod
>   --
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>		   : troch@pilot.njin.net       | happyHappy joyJoy
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My roommate last year got a $50 parking ticket for parking in the
circle in front of Hadley Hall, the main admin building.  If you pay
your ticket within 2 or 3 days, they knock it by 50%.  He went to pay
it and asked if they had changed for a $100.  The security guy said,
"Aw, hell" and tossed the ticket in the garbage.

--
Todd Eigenschink (eigenstr@CS.Rose-Hulman.Edu)
Psychopathic Peon System Administrator
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology, Terre Haute, IN

"I know I said this, but I'm not sure I know what it means."  -- FJS
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: michaelb@cse.fau.edu (Michael Rogero Brown)
Subject: Re: Renaming Hallowed Institutions
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 01:43:19 GMT

In article <Z1mXRB1w165w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> robw@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Robert Weaver) writes:
>Here at Florida Atlantic University, the FAU stands either for
>Finished And Unemployed or
>Faculty Against Understanding.
Never heard those.  I've heard:

Florida's Apathetic University or
Find Another University   

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<<                                                               >>
<< Michael R. Brown    CS Graduate Student-Florida Atlantic Univ >>
<< Internet: michaelb@sol.cse.fau.edu                            >>
<< BitNet: m_brown@fauvax                                        >>
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: chil@fraser.sfu.ca (Keith Lim)
Subject: Re: Renaming Hallowed Institutions
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 02:30:39 GMT

sbrack@jupiter (Steven S. Brack) writes:

>	Also, we have Findlay College, now known as Findlay University.
>	Or not.  That as whjat the name was set to be changed to, but then
>	someone noticed that it's acronym would be F.U., & they decided to
>	go with the University of Findlay.

Fortunately, not everyone was as observant when it came to naming
universities. University of Simon Fraser, USF, just doesn't quite have the
same ring to it....

-- 
Keith_Lim@sfu.ca   Simon Fraser University, Burnaby B.C., V5A 1S6, Canada
Hon Cog Sci; Min Psyc; Forum; Senate; CDSU; URC; ASC; FARSIDE; LEAD; CCCS
I officially represent each and every one of the above bodies--NOT!

"Perhaps you're just different. It's not a sin, you know--though you may
 have heard otherwise."                     --Tam Elbrun, ST:TNG "Tin Man"
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: pratta@rpi.edu (Anthony Edward Prattico)
Subject: Re: Computer Lab Security (Moroons!)
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 00:10:34 GMT

In article <163@newave.newave.mn.org> john@newave.newave.mn.org (John A. Weeks III) writes:

>In <1992Oct2.213633.4014@spcvxb.spc.edu> pereira_f@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
>> ...and they said.."How did you open the door..after they realized 
>> they left the door opened overnight they said-" your still not supposed to 
>> be here" so they wanted to give me a ticket!!($50)for traspass!!!
>> I said f**k you and called my professor and got it straightened out...
>
>Perhaps you should sue the university for creating a safty hazard by leaving
>the door unlocked and allowing you to enter an unsupervised science lab.
>Who knows, you could have caught a dangerous computer virus.  The stress of
>"what could have happened" alone should be worth $30,000 in damages.

One morning here I accidentally set off the alarm when opening one of the labs.
A minute or so later, the phone rings. This is what the voice said:
 "This is Public Safety. We received an alarm from there. Is everything okay?" 
Makes you feel real safe doesn't it? Oh yes officer, everythings okay. I'm just
Joe Burglar stealing UN*X workstaiotns.

Another time I went to return the lab keys to security, and was told the alarm
had been triggered. "Want to go back up there and take a look around?" Sure,
why not. I've lived a good life. I'll go and confront a burglar. (No there was
not a burglar. I don't know what set the alarm off) 

RPI's public safety is very good at tracking down stolen property and solving
other crimes, but it does not reflect well on them that some of these crimes,
like breaking and entering, occur in the first place. Security is supposed to
make rounds of all buildings at night and check that doors, windows, etc. are
shut and locked. Of course, they only do this on nights when the labes are open
late. Other nights the buildings are open all night. This will not stop expert
burglars, but most of the thefts here are by students, and could be prevented.

Oh well, I guess I'll just barricade my door and hope nothing vanishes.

Anthony
From: zelek@remus.rutgers.edu (Grey Wolf)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Computer Lab Operator Geeks
Date: 6 Oct 92 07:32:28 GMT
Organization: Rutgers University

oldman@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Tig Stone) writes:


>	I don't know what it is, but whenever I'm in a computer lab,
>SOMEONE asks me a "stupid user question".  I don't even WORK in a
>computer lab.  I guess I just LOOK like I know what I'm doing (which I
>do :).

   One time I showed up for a shift about fifteen minutes early and was in a
good mood.  So, I wandered over to the Macs that only CS110 [Intro to
Computers] set up to use and sat down amongst the lot of them.  Now, keep in
mind these people barely know how to boot up with their pre-set disk and are
automatically logged into the proper servers.   Their world ends if they
boot up and for whatever reason they're not already hooked into a server
that has their class software all primed and ready to use.  Anyhow, I went
into the Chooser and changed the Appletalk zone to one that I knew had a
few games on [it was something of an 'underground' site running in a dorm
somewhere on campus] and loaded up Tetris and merrily began dropping blocks.
   Within five minutes I had everyone from my row, and two rows back staring
at my screen in utter disbelief and confusion.  When it came time to start
my shift, I just changed the Chooser back, shut the system down, and went over
to the Consultant Mac.
   Ahh, it takes so little to scatter their thoughts. :)

Gee, what does _this_ button do?,
Chris [zelek@aramis.rutgers.edu]
From: GRS00041@APPSTATE.EDU (Shannon G. Frady)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: parking tickets
Date: 2 Oct 92 03:08:44 GMT
Organization: Appalachian State University
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In <jac1.717391122@Isis.MsState.Edu> jac1@ra.msstate.edu writes:

>  v201lrxa@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (BILL S. PRESTON, ESQ.) writes:
>  
>  
>  >maybe we can start a new thread about parking (or lack thereof).......
>  
>  Here are the lovely Moo U they will give you a parking ticket for
>  anything.  People that parallel park on the opposite side of
>  the street are favorite targets.  In the slant parking if you pull through
>  so the front of your car isn't toward the front of the car in front of
>  you they will ticket you.  A friend got a ticket yesterday for having
>  the decal in his back window...not stuck to it as regulations say.
>  
>  The Campus Police have been issueing far more tickets since the monely
>  collected from them goes to the Department itself....
>  
>  Jennifer



They do the same thing here at ASU and, amazingly enough, the week after 4,000
parking tickets are issued, a brand new Cherokee miraculously appears in front
of the security building...

Shannon
From: jkuner@be.seas.upenn.edu (John A. E. Kuner)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Iowa State University Towers
Date: 4 Oct 92 23:49:36 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <> williamsk@gtephx.UUCP (Kevin W. Williams) writes:
<>When I was a going to school at ISU, the Towers
<>(Wallace/Wilson/Knapp/Storms) were rumored to be
<>only temporary buildings that were supposed to have
<>been torn down in 1975. Is this story still going
<>around? Have they actually lived 17 years past their
<>reputed design life?
<>
<>
<>Kevin Wayne Williams
<>     UUCP : ...!ames!ncar!noao!enuucp!gtephx!williamsk
<>
<>               Remember : Brute force has an elegance all its own.

There is a similar rumor going around at Penn. There are three High
Rise dorms (creatively named High Rise North, South, and East - although two
of them are also named for donors of large sums of money) that
are rumored to be temporary housing.  While the inside is poorly constructed
(walls leak, and have a tendency to aquire holes from heads, fists, etc.), 
they are large concrete structures. Not what one would think of when temp.
housing is mentioned. Oh, well. Who knows how college.folklore gets started..

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  University of Pennsylvania \ CETS 164 Consultant / must be a nonconformist"
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: jwp@panix.com (JongWoo Park)
Subject: Homo-erotic hazing rituals
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 04:21:02 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

I heard that most fraternities have some sort of homo erotic
hazing rituals.  True?  
-----
Jongwoo "Ain't it fun to be crazy?" Park     jwp@panix.com
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From: cromar@math.rutgers.edu (Scott Cromar)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.urban,soc.college
Subject: Re: Class distinction in colleges
Date: 28 Sep 92 03:04:12 GMT
Followup-To: alt.folklore.college
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener) writes:

> I'm wondering...this sort of distinction between academic classes at
> American colleges no longer exists.  When did it die out?  What was
> the social factor that caused it to disappear?  Certainly this sort
> of thing isn't endemic to Columbia...

It may have something to do with the fact that your class and your
actual date of graduation might not have anything to do with each
other (especially with so many students working their way through
school and being unable to carry 15 credits/semester).

--Scott
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: oldman@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Tig Stone)
Subject: Re: New logos (was Re: Iowa State University Towers)
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Amherst
	<jeffries.718255022@pv7b87.vincent.iastate.edu>
	<1992Oct5.130412.23933@athena.cs.uga.edu>
	<1992Oct5.143431.7970@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
	<1992Oct06.214939.27676@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:38:37 GMT


In article <1992Oct06.214939.27676@rchland.ibm.com> jdahl@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jared Dahl) writes:
[...]
> Are you sure you're not at North Dakota State University??

> Same thing happened there.  $30,000 for the logo, and then they 
> decided not to even use it because of the uproar.  The VP in 
> charge got fired, and some funds were even misapropriated.
> WOW!!  And their library is "slowly sinking into the ground."

	But isn't EVERY school's library "slowly sinking into the ground"?

--
Tig Stone 
(oldman@titan.ucc.umass.edu)
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Date: Thu,  1 Oct 1992 19:56:55 -0400 
From: David O Hunt <bluelobster+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Renaming Hallowed Institutions
	<1992Oct1.145538.25110@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>

>In article <EemauAW00XsFI6N10z@andrew.cmu.edu> David O Hunt
<bluelobster+@CMU.E
>DU> writes:
>>
>>UCF (Univ. Central Florida):  U Can't Fail
>>note:  Most of the U of F campuses are UF<city-name>.  Yet there UCF
>>is...I wonder what's wrong with U.F.Orlando?  :P
>>
>HUH???  There is only ONE U of F campus, thats University of Florida itself.
>UCF is a separate state university as are Univ North Florida, Univ West
Florida,
>Univ South Florida, Fl Atlantic Univ, Fl International Univ, Fl A&M, F State,
etc.
> 
>You must be thinking of California with UC-Berkeley, etc.

No...what about UF-Gainsville?

David
From: 2429oconnorw@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Renaming Hallowed Institutions
Date: 1 Oct 1992 14:15:40 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 2429oconnorw@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsa.csd.mu.edu

In article <EACHUS.92Oct1092045@Dr_No.mitre.org>, eachus@Dr_No.mitre.org (Robert I. Eachus) writes:
>
>    When I was at MIT (Massachusetts Institute of Technology) I had
>book covers (printed by the humor magazine) for the
>
>          Meaningless Infinitude of Terminology
>
>    Looked so much like the ones sold at the Harvard Co-op that almost
>no one noticed...
>
>--
>
>					Robert I. Eachus

And I always thought MIT stood for Mommy I Tried.
Bill O'Connor               | In the course of human events, there is
Marquette University        | always one person who will screw things
Milwaukee, WI               | up.
2429OCONNORW@VMS.CSD.MU.EDU |
From: KWF102@psuvm.psu.edu (Kevin Furrow)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: parking tickets
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:43:41 GMT
Organization: Penn State University


   I think Penn State takes the prize for parking tickets.  I've never had a
car up there (not worth the hassle), but there are about 2,000 student parking
places with about 4,000 parking permits given out.  Meaning that every day
there are literally hundreds of illegally parked cars across the campus.
Freshman aren't allowed to have cars at main campus (other universities have
this rule ?), but they're only about 8,000 of the 38,000 students up there.
   The PSU cops would probably give a ticket to a car waiting at a red light.
I wouldn't be surprised if they do it.  I once saw a car with FIVE parking
tickets on it.  All lots are public from 9 PM to 7 AM, and at 6:30 AM, the
cops start writing up the tickets and quick hand all of them out at 7.  I
know this is true because I've seen them do it.
   My roommate once got a $10.00 parking ticket.  So, he went to a local bank,
got 1,000 pennies (all in those 50 cent rolls) and took the pennies to the
police station.  They took it, said thanks, that's all.  Maybe he should have
tried the $100 bill trick.

Kevin Furrow (kwf102@psuvm.psu.edu)