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From: dclunie@pax.tpa.com.au (David Clunie)
Newsgroups: aus.cdrom
Subject: REPOST: Prime Time Freeware UNIX Coll. (Reviewed by Tony Thomas)
Date: 12 Jan 1993 03:24:25 GMT
Organization: Her Master's Voice
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dclunie@pax.tpa.com.au
NNTP-Posting-Host: britt.pax.tpa.com.au

First posted by "aa699@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Thomas)".

Prime Time Freeware
UNIX(tm) Freeware Collection
Volume 1 - Number 2 July 1992
 
Reviewed by Tony Thomas
 
 
Users of other operating systems are probably a bit frustrated by the
number of shareware/freeware discs for DOS, Windows and the Macintosh
and the comparative scarcity of CD-ROMs for their platform.  Slowly, but
surely such discs are trickling out, and UNIX(tm) and **IX users will be
glad to hear such a collection exists for their operating system(s).
Prime Time Freeware has released two discs containing about 3 gigabytes
of useful freeware(!) applications complete with source code. 
 
Most of this code comes from the Free Software Foundation, UUNET, Cygnus
support and major universities.  Shell scripts are included to support
various interpretations of the ISO-9660 file conventions plus indexes to
allow you to navigate the contents of each disc.  The directories
include ai, database, datacomm, desktop, game, language, math, music,
os, gnu, usenet and window.  There are all kinds of applications on
these discs including CAD packages, mail handing systems, spreadsheets,
emacs editors and tools, LaTex, Tex, chess, programming languages,
graphics tools, X-Windows, Ghostscript and more.  DOS users will
probably recognize some of this stuff due to their gnuish DOS ports.   
 
This release comes with a comb-bound book and the discs are in plastic
sleeves bound in the book.  While not as elegant as the jewel box, this
keeps the book and the discs together and simplifies retail distribution
of the package. The book is very helpful and includes installation
instructions for many systems, plus workarounds for difficult problems,
like getting it to work with A/UX 3.0 (Apple UNIX). Hierarchical and
permuted program lists are also included in the book.
 
At $60 list (quantity discounts available), this is an excellent value
for UNIX users.  There is enough stuff on these discs to keep your Sun
(or other **IX machine) humming for quite a while.  A regular
subscription service for this bi-annual release is also available.  Even
though all of its contents are Freeware, Prime Time Freeware encourages
you to make donations to the Free Software Foundation and PTF Software
Slush fund to help pay for the cost of creating it.  (FSF donations are
tax deductible, PTF donations are not.)  Five Stars *****
 
Contact: Prime Time Freeware - 415-112 N. Mary Avenue, Suite 50
                               Sunnyvale, CA  94086
                               Phone: 1-408-738-4832
                               FAX:   1-408-738-2050
          


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TONY THOMAS - SIGop - Audio Arts SIG - Cleveland FreeNet
"True riches is not what you have - It's the kind of person you are"



Newsgroups: aus.cdrom
From: maxtal@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (John MAX Skaller)
Subject: Re: saw your new group and trial post
Organization: MAXTAL P/L C/- University Computing Centre, Sydney
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 19:12:05 GMT

In article <1il0paINN5qc@flash.pax.tpa.com.au> dclunie@pax.tpa.com.au writes:
>> I got your posting to Newsgroups: aus.cdrom
>
>Thanks for your replies ! The group has indeed propagated far and wide,
>though I have not had a single response from an Australian site yet !@#$
>Mostly from US, Canada, UK and Singapore.

	Hey: I live in Oz.
>
>This may be because most news admins here don't like to automatically let
>newgroups be created without their manually intervention, and they probably
>haven't got around to doing that yet. Perhaps this says something about
>Australia being a country of totalitarian and inefficient/lazy people :)

	I'm not aware of any restrictions on the UCC site.
Any other university sites have restrictions? I would have thought
if laziness was the issue it would be easier to not intervene
manually :-=)

>
>> What is the group about?
>
>It is meant as an Australian equivalent of alt.cd-rom, for discussion of
>the technology in general, local suppliers, local mastering facilities,
>legal issues peculiarly Australian, and so on.

	So the obvious questions:

	How much does it cost to make a master?
	How do you supply the data?
	How many CDROM players in Oz? The rest of the world?

	How many on DOS machines, how many on other machines?

	How many years will it be until:

	compiler products are available ONLY on CDROM?
	(e.g. Windows NT-beta I think is ONLY available on CDROM)

	the number of games for CDROM is so significant that
	serious kids MUST have a CDROM on their PC?

	the number of business databases on CDROM is so great
	that no $1Meg/yr turnover business can do without one
	(any more than a fax, say)


-- 
;----------------------------------------------------------------------
        JOHN (MAX) SKALLER,         maxtal@extro.ucc.su.oz.au
	Maxtal Pty Ltd, 6 MacKay St ASHFIELD, NSW 2131, AUSTRALIA
;--------------- SCIENTIFIC AND ENGINEERING SOFTWARE ------------------
Newsgroups: aus.cdrom
Subject: Re: saw your new group and trial post
From: cscmd@lux.latrobe.edu.au (Mitch Davis)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 10:25:57 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University

In article <1993Jan9.191205.19804@ucc.su.OZ.AU> maxtal@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (John MAX Skaller) writes:
>In article <1il0paINN5qc@flash.pax.tpa.com.au> dclunie@pax.tpa.com.au writes:
>>> I got your posting to Newsgroups: aus.cdrom
>>

My answers come about because the BBS I get my Fidonet mail from is
thinking of having 5600 files on it's 1GB drive pressed.

>	How much does it cost to make a master?

$80

>	How do you supply the data?

You either send them the hard drive, or on DAT tape.

Mitch.
Newsgroups: aus.cdrom
From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Re: Test
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 04:03:39 GMT

Richard Weaver (rweaver@research.otc.com.au) wrote:

> Readers might like to also glance at the group:   _comp.archives.msdos.d_
> where details are given of the availability of a variety of $25 CD-ROMs,
> containing the SIMTEL-20 archives, as well as other good things.

> Credit cards can be used apparently, so purchasers 
> outside the USA are not disadvantaged.

The place is called Walnut Creek CDROM. I just bought the OS/2 archive from
them for US$25 and it got here in a few days (over New Year's too!). They
just took my Ozzie credit card number and it appeared on my statement at
the bargain basement exchange rate of 0.68 :-)

-- 
Tom J Parry.
Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
Newsgroups: aus.cdrom
From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Re: saw your new group and trial post
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 04:04:54 GMT

Ian Staples (ianst@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au) wrote:
> >
> Not only compiler products.  What about those modern applications that come
> on 8, 12, 17 or more DSHD disks?  How long before the vendors assume we all
> have a CDROM player and only distribute that way?  It surprises me they haven't
> started already to a greater extent.  It could well be seen as one way to
> re-introduce a type of modest copy protection, could it not?

Some companies have taken the oppurtunity to package huge amounts of extras
with their software. As an example, CorelDraw 3.0 comes on CD with about
700MB of clip art (or so I am told). Try fit that on DSHD floppies :-)

-- 
Tom J Parry.
Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
From: dclunie@pax.tpa.com.au (David Clunie)
Newsgroups: aus.cdrom
Subject: REPOST: New - $4K Write-Once CD-ROM Drive
Date: 12 Jan 1993 21:19:33 GMT
Organization: Her Master's Voice
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dclunie@pax.tpa.com.au
NNTP-Posting-Host: britt.pax.tpa.com.au

Posted to alt.cdr-rom by "rex@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Rex Sanders))

Pinnacle Micro announced at MacWorld Expo in San Francisco a new,
recordable CD-ROM drive with a list price of $3,995!  This price
includes ISO 9660 and HFS software for Macs.  PC interface kit and
software is extra $200.

This device is half-height, 5.25" SCSI, 1x recording speed.  Supports
all commond CD-ROM formats, including multiple-session.  Supports
standard write-once media, including Kodak's.

I asked a rep if you need a fast hard disk to feed this device, as you
do with many other write-once drives.  His reply (paraphrased):

    We tested this with the slowest hard drive we could find - and
    Apple 40 Mb.  Worked fine.  All you need is a hard drive with
    173 Kb/sec throughput.  Floppies won't work, but everything else
    we tried did work.

Well, don't know if this is hype or not, but this rep also claimed the
entire January production run was sold out, and they were now taking
February delivery orders.

The device was not much to look at - looks like a half-height CD-ROM
drive in and external box.

Proper software to drive these boxes has been the Achille's heel of
earlier write-once CD-ROM drives.  The Pinnacle rep claimed they had
been working more than one year on the software, and acknowledged that
writing it was difficult (again paraphrasing, he used non-family-values
language here :-).

For me, and several other MacWorld Expo attendees I talked to, this
announcement was the highlight of the show.

Presumbably, you can get more information by contacting:

    Pinnacle Micro
    19 Technology Drive, Irvine, CA 92718
    800-553-7070, +1-714-727-3300, +1-714-727-1913 (fax)
    
Anyway, caveat emptor.  I have no connection, can't make any
recommendations, etc.

-- Rex
   rex@octopus.wr.usgs.gov


Newsgroups: aus.cdrom
From: cheese@runx.oz.au (Mark Cheeseman)
Subject: Re: Test
Organization: Your Computer Magazine, Sydney, Australia
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 03:47:23 GMT

In article <1iipjaINN5qc@flash.pax.tpa.com.au> dclunie@pax.tpa.com.au writes:
>Would anyone who actually sees this message please respond with a
>followup post and email ?
>
>I have issued a newgroup for this group but it doesn't seem to be
>propagating very far :(

Well, you've made it this far...

Regards,
Mark


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From: nigel@cnw01.storesys.coles.oz.au (Nigel Harwood)
Subject: What's everyone using?
Organization: Coles Supermarkets
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 01:53:13 GMT

I am on the threshold of buying a CD-ROM and would like to know what
everyone else is using, successfully.

My requirements are that it be:

   1. internal (I have a tower case)

   2. SCSI (I have a SCSI hard disk)

   3. compatible with the Adaptec 1542B controller I have

   4. fast enough for MPC, hopefully a lot faster

   5. be cheap ;-)

Anyone like to tell us all about their set up and what they would do
next time?

Regards
-- 
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<  Nigel Harwood  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<< Post:  Coles Supermarkets, PO Box 480 Glen Iris 3146, Australia >>
<< Phone: +61 3 829 6090  E-mail: nigel@cnw01.storesys.coles.oz.au >>
<<   FAX: +61 3 829 6886                                           >>
Newsgroups: aus.cdrom
From: pigman@metonymy.engin.umich.edu (R. Scott Pigman)
Subject: Re: Test
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 00:07:28 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: pigman@metonymy.engin.umich.edu


okay, i'm posting, so this group isn't neccessarily dead yet.  Don't know what 
valid topics are (and probably don't know much about the subjects anyway) so this isn't the most exciting post in the world.  One question i will through up though:  Sony has apparently come out with read/write capable optical disk for  stereo use, anyone know when and if reasonably priced computer disk with similar capabilities will suppossedly be available?

				scott

No, i don't know what's going on, i'm just faking chomprehension.
From: dclunie@pax.tpa.com.au (David Clunie)
Newsgroups: aus.cdrom
Subject: Test
Date: 8 Jan 1993 02:40:42 GMT
Organization: Her Master's Voice
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dclunie@pax.tpa.com.au
NNTP-Posting-Host: britt.pax.tpa.com.au

Would anyone who actually sees this message please respond with a
followup post and email ?

I have issued a newgroup for this group but it doesn't seem to be
propagating very far :(

david


Newsgroups: aus.cdrom
From: tonyw@runx.oz.au (Anthony Williams)
Subject: Re: saw your new group and trial post
Organization: RUNX Un*x Timeshare.  Sydney, Australia.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 07:15:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.102557.3464@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> cscmd@lux.latrobe.edu.au (Mitch Davis) writes:
>In article <1993Jan9.191205.19804@ucc.su.OZ.AU> maxtal@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (John MAX Skaller) writes:
>>In article <1il0paINN5qc@flash.pax.tpa.com.au> dclunie@pax.tpa.com.au writes:
>>>> I got your posting to Newsgroups: aus.cdrom
>>>
>
>My answers come about because the BBS I get my Fidonet mail from is
>thinking of having 5600 files on it's 1GB drive pressed.
>
>>	How much does it cost to make a master?
>
>$80
>
>>	How do you supply the data?
>
>You either send them the hard drive, or on DAT tape.
>
>Mitch.

Mitch,

After paying your $80 how much is it for each disk? Do they do Mac as
well? (I assume your BBS is an IBM).

Tony
From: dclunie@pax.tpa.com.au (David Clunie)
Newsgroups: aus.cdrom
Subject: Re: saw your new group and trial post
Date: 8 Jan 1993 22:55:38 GMT
Organization: Her Master's Voice
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dclunie@pax.tpa.com.au
NNTP-Posting-Host: britt.pax.tpa.com.au

> I got your posting to Newsgroups: aus.cdrom

Thanks for your replies ! The group has indeed propagated far and wide,
though I have not had a single response from an Australian site yet !@#$
Mostly from US, Canada, UK and Singapore.

This may be because most news admins here don't like to automatically let
newgroups be created without their manually intervention, and they probably
haven't got around to doing that yet. Perhaps this says something about
Australia being a country of totalitarian and inefficient/lazy people :)

> What is the group about?

It is meant as an Australian equivalent of alt.cd-rom, for discussion of
the technology in general, local suppliers, local mastering facilities,
legal issues peculiarly Australian, and so on.

I should perhaps have restricted the distribution of the Newgroup command,
but lots of people outside Australia read the aus groups anyway, so...

david
From: ianst@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (Ian Staples)
Subject: Re: saw your new group and trial post
Organization: Qld Dept Primary Industries
Distribution: aus
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 07:15:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.191205.19804@ucc.su.OZ.AU> maxtal@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (John MAX Skaller) writes:
>In article <1il0paINN5qc@flash.pax.tpa.com.au> dclunie@pax.tpa.com.au writes:
>>> I got your posting to Newsgroups: aus.cdrom
>>
>>Thanks for your replies ! The group has indeed propagated far and wide,
>>though I have not had a single response from an Australian site yet !@#$
>>Mostly from US, Canada, UK and Singapore.
>
>	Hey: I live in Oz.

So do I.

[Stuff deleted]

>
>	How many years will it be until:
>
>	compiler products are available ONLY on CDROM?
>	(e.g. Windows NT-beta I think is ONLY available on CDROM)
>
Not only compiler products.  What about those modern applications that come
on 8, 12, 17 or more DSHD disks?  How long before the vendors assume we all
have a CDROM player and only distribute that way?  It surprises me they haven't
started already to a greater extent.  It could well be seen as one way to
re-introduce a type of modest copy protection, could it not?



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From: oyang@cs.monash.edu.au (Kai Shing O'Yang)
Subject: Re: Making CD masters
Organization: Computer Science, Monash University, Australia
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:02:52 GMT

I read from the promotional brochure of Walnut Creek CDrom that they
are willing to press CDrom one-off for anyone interested. 
It reads something like sending them your tape/floppies :-) and average
turnaround time is one day.

Hope this help,
Kai
--
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- AARNET: oyang@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au         - Voice : +(61) 3 565 5778
					       - FAX :   +(61) 3 565 5146
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Newsgroups: aus.cdrom
From: richardb@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Richard Banks)
Subject: CDROM for Amiga 2000?
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 08:12:20 GMT

I'm thinking of getting a CD-ROM for my Amiga 2000.
What I want to know is what can I get in Australia for the Amiga in terms of 
both hardware and software, and the prices for these items.

I live in sydney so information about sydney vendors would be greatly 
appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
  Richard Banks.
From: maxtal@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (John MAX Skaller)
Subject: Re: Test
Organization: MAXTAL P/L C/- University Computing Centre, Sydney
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:10:11 GMT

In article <1iipjaINN5qc@flash.pax.tpa.com.au> dclunie@pax.tpa.com.au writes:
>Would anyone who actually sees this message please respond with a
>followup post and email ?
>
>I have issued a newgroup for this group but it doesn't seem to be
>propagating very far :(
>

	Hello! I bought one just 2 days ago.
Just figured out how to play Chopin while I work :-)

-- 
;----------------------------------------------------------------------
        JOHN (MAX) SKALLER,         maxtal@extro.ucc.su.oz.au
	Maxtal Pty Ltd, 6 MacKay St ASHFIELD, NSW 2131, AUSTRALIA
;--------------- SCIENTIFIC AND ENGINEERING SOFTWARE ------------------
From: rweaver@research.otc.com.au (Richard Weaver)
Newsgroups: aus.cdrom
Subject: Request to post the CD-ROM FAQ here
Summary: it does exist, could we see it?
Keywords: CD-ROM FAQ wanted
Date: 11 Jan 93 03:36:28 GMT
Followup-To: aus.cdrom
Organization: R&D, OTC Australia


In recent months, several postings in other groups have occasion-
ally  included snippets from a  "CD-ROM  FAQ".   I don't know its
origin, perhaps it's from alt.cd-rom.

Could  somebody  please  post  that  FAQ  to  this  group?

Please note that not all on this group  will have access  to  the
relevant  'alt' group.


	--  Dick. 	 ( rweaver@otc.otca.oz.au )

Newsgroups: aus.followup
From: steve@fulcrum.oz.au (Steve Taylor)
Subject: Re: Vegetarian Ethics?????????????????
Organization: The Fulcrum Consulting Group
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:47:18 GMT

ina_pearce@actew.oz.au writes:

>is that all the witty comments (with smilies usually included) were written by 
>the unbiased and probable omnivores where all the reactionary and insulting 
>comments were written by the vegetarians!

I saw more the opposite - someone saying that they eat vegies, then someone
else getting all wierd and serious about it.

>As for vegoes thinking they are not extremists and mind their own business,
>have you ever tried to eat a nice juicy steak in front of a vego or tried
>bringing an innocent little sausage into a vegoes house???

None of the vegetarians I live with seem to mind. Maybe we've got tame ones.


					
					Steve "probable omnivore" Taylor
					steve@fulcrum.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.followup
From: john@physiol.su.OZ.AU (John Mackin)
Subject: Re: Australian Products ?
Keywords: australia product unique
Organization: Chickenhawk Software
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 04:29:14 GMT

In article <C0IL50.79q@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au>,
	 ggm@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (George Michaelson) writes:

>	Blundstone (sp?) elastic-sided chelsea(ish) boots.

The spelling is correct.  They also make lace-up boots.  The boots are
very nice (although I hear they are trendy in Melbourne).  They are
_not_ made in Taiwan, they are made in Tasmania.  I don't know whether
the company is still 100% Oz-owned -- anyone?

-- 
John Mackin <john@civil.su.oz.au>
Knox's box is a 286.                 Fox in Socks does hacks and tricks
Knox's box is hard to fix.           To fix poor Knox's box for kicks.
Newsgroups: aus.followup
From: khchung@monu1.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr KH Chung)
Subject: Re: The great vegie debate
Summary: get it right, please
Organization: Monash University, Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 02:50:28 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.093315.8260@brt.deakin.edu.au>, trathenac@brt.deakin.edu.au writes:
> I've been following the vegie debate with amusement.
> 
> I'm not vegetarian myself but I do think that the vegies have it based
> on the economic and environmental arguments presented.
> 
> Here's some more food for thought:
> 
> If we didn't have all those cows farting away and destroying the ozone
> layer I'm sure we would be much better off.
> 
> Perhaps someone has data on the relative farting capacity of vegetarians
> versus meat-eaters?
> 
> Chris
Not to flame anyone, but, we mostly destroy ozone by use of free radicals,
mostly in the form of chlorine, released from chloro-fluoro-carbons (the
dreaded CFC's).  Methane gas is not a chloro-fluoro-carbon---no chlorine.
Methane gas, is however, a good way to add to the greenhouse effect
(global warming and all that jazz), which is entirely separate from the
depletion of the ozone layer (which partially protects us from UV radiation).
Newsgroups: aus.followup