HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gt9730a@prism.gatech.EDU (Bill Standhardt)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Merchants Of Venice
Date: 25 Jul 92 19:13:00 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


I saw this cd in a bargain bin last night for $3 and was
wondering if it was any good. What's their style, who
are they like? etc.

I also saw a Screaming Blue Messiah's cd, the same info
please.

Tanks

Bill


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Beldin Feldegast          Wouldn't it, couldn't it, shouldn't it be nice     |
| Georgia Tech              to be in love? Wouldn't it, couldn't it, shouldn't |
| gt9730a@prism.gatech.edu  it be nice to be above, all of the pain, and frust-|
| If I cared, I'd be        ration of being alone. Nobody, nobody, nobody likes|
| apathetic!!               to be chilled to the bone. - 77's                  |
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: jerry@nutmeg.hnrc.tufts.edu (Jerry Dallal)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Taping CD'sDIR
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:19:05 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <19519@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, bsou@cs.arizona.edu (Brandon S. Ou) writes:
> In article <BrvDFF.L3t@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay) writes:
> 
>>>You should not copy CD's but buy them ! Just kiddin', this is NOT a flame !
>>
>>But you do raise an issue that I've always woondered...Is it legal (because
>>of loophole) to make a tape of CD you own for your persoannel use or is
>>ALL taping of CDs unauthorized?  What are the clauses?  Color me ignorant
>>of the law on this one.  Thanks for replies you legal experts!!!! :-)

It's your CD.  You bought it.  You can do with it as you please, including
maiking tapes for yourself.  But, you
can't distribute its contents further by selling or giving away tapes.

> 
> I've always wondered about that also:  If all these CD's and TV shows
> and videotapes and softwares are copyrighted and all that, why do they
> even sell blank tapes and videocassettes etc for then?


Sony fought this one through the courts so that VCR technology wouldn't die
aborning.  Basically, the "fair use" provision of the copyright law allows you
to videotape programs for your own use.  Again, you should not make 2nd
generation copies for further distribution.  (This also applies to radio
broadcasts.  If a local radio station broadcasts an album in its entirety, you
can tape it for your own use, but this limited permission to copy does not
allow you to start selling copies of your tape.)

IANAL.
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: schweda@iastate.edu (Christopher Schweda)
Subject: Bootleg Mastering -- Is it as easy as it sounds?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:45:37 GMT

A buddy of mine were talking the other day about bootleg records -- we're
both Springsteen fans -- and we got to wondering just how easy is it
to master your own CDs? He claimed all it takes is high-quality
master tape and about $5000. Since much computer software is now being
put onto CDs, renting a mastering session for audio recordings is no
big deal. The most expensive part, he claimed, was not manufacturing
the CDs themselves but rather the artwork -- the front and back cover and
plastic jewel-box. 

My question is this: does anyone know (or has anyone heard or had some
sort of experience) with seeing a bootleg turn from concert tape to
actual "bootleg" CD? I'm not interested in plopping down $5000, but I
am interested in the process -- and the fact that it seems to be coming
back into fashion here in America. I go in record stores and see all
kinds of labels -- a few of which look as though they're American based
companies. Any ideas???



Chris Schweda
--
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: loyola@bnr.ca (Nelson Loyola)
Subject: Re: Once again, Columbia House 800 number request...?
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 01:31:51 GMT

bates@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Andrew Bates) writes:
: 
:     Sorry to do this (about 10 times a week, right?), but could someone
: please email me the Columbia House CD Club 800 number for ordering and 
: changing addresses?  Thank you profusely.
: 
: 	Andy Bates.
: 

Wow! Great!
Does anyone know if there's an 800 number of us dudes here in Canada?
Thanks very very kindly to anyone responding!

Later
Nelson
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: synth@deepthought.unm.edu (Synth F. Oberheim)
Subject: Re: Taping CD's
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 07:55:26 GMT
Organization: SynthMedia Productions Ltd.: The Danes Call It Quality


jer@salad.visus.com (Jerry Jantz) writes:

jer> I've got the best results by using the following:

jer> -no dolby
jer> -type II for type II cassetes when recording
jer> -normal for type II cassetes during playback

It sounds like you're trying to compensate for an inadequate playback system
by inducing an artificial brightness into the sound.  I'd suggest you clean
your heads/capstan/pinch roller with a head cleaner & cotton swab; if that
doesn't work your heads may be out of alignment.

If you've already checked into both of these, and insist on setting your
bias wrong instead of getting a better tape deck :-), that's fine -- you're
not damaging anything by doing so.  But I wouldn't recommend this as a 
general rule; it really muddies up the details in the high-end.


===============================================================================
    :: :: :: :: ::     Synth F.    synth@deepthought.unm.edu    U S E N E T   
 :: :: :: :: :: :: ::  Oberheim    synth@yenta.alb.nm.us             in color!
===============================================================================
"Can't you just gesture hypnotically and make him disappear?"
"It does not work that way. RUN!"
					-- JONNY QUEST
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge)
Subject: Re: Looking for "LEGEND" soundtrack...!
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:02:29 GMT

In article <84094@netnews.upenn.edu> jarnot@kin.lap.upenn.edu (Kevin J. Jarnot) writes:
>In article <BrsqHK.AGC@news.cso.uiuc.edu> woodcock@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Brad Woodcock) writes:
>>The soundtrack is available on CD, however, it has been out of print for
>>a LONG time, and the music is not done by Tangerine Dream, or Bryan Ferry
>>or Anderson.  There is a version of the soundtrack done by some orchestra
>>that is available on CD but it is amazingly rare.  
>
>This version of the soundtrack is from the European release.  The music is
>not TD, but instead, I believe, Jerry Goldsmith.
>
>I'm sure someone out there knows who it is for sure...

Yes, it's Jerry Goldsmith. The Tangerine Dream music was only used on the
US release of the film. Everywhere else had the Goldsmith music (and a
much different version of the film as well)

BTW I don't think the Goldsmith CD is a very rare title outside of the US
(I could be wrong).
                                            -Dave Dodge/dododge@wam.umd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.music.marketplace
From: knight@rtsg.mot.com (Paul E. Knight)
Subject: Elton John Tour info wanted
Summary: See above ....
Keywords: Elton John Tour info wanted
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:20:15 GMT

I realize this may not be the most appropriate place for this, but the intelligence
level of these newsgroups is high - so I'll take a stab !!  Can anyone provide me
with a list of dates/venues for Elton John's current tour ??  We are near
Chicago, so midwest dates would be most appropriate (Detroit in particular).
Any info at all would be greatly appreciated.

Tnx in advance,

Paul Knight

knight@whitefish.rtsg.mot.com
knight@rtsg.mot.com

Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: datta@cs.uwp.edu (David Datta)
Subject: Re: Looking for "LEGEND" soundtrack...!
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 03:06:17 GMT

There exists the Tangerine Dream version of Legend on Cassette and
LP in the USA:

1986      Legend

          Edgar Froese
          Christoph Franke
          Johannes Schmoelling
          Jon Anderson (Vocals on Loved by the Sun)
          Brian Ferry (Vocals on Is Your Love Strong Enough)

          Original soundtrack to the motion picture (US release of the
          movie only)

           5.08  Is Your Love Strong Enough, performed by Brian Ferry
           2.55  Opening
           3.23  Cottage
           3.27  Unicorn Theme
           3.03  Goblins
           2.57  Fairies
           5.57  Loved By The Sun, with Jon Anderson
           3.24  Blue Room
           2.23  The Dance
           3.05  Darkness
           4.49  The Kitchen/ Unicorn Theme Reprise

                 CA MCA MCAC-6165
                 LP MCA MCA 5291
                 LP MCA MCA 6165

Some rumour quenching:

I have verified with a good source, there WAS litigation involving the
US issue of the soundtrack. It was NOT involving Brian Ferry or Jon
Anderson but some other musicians. No further details will come from
me on the litigation.

I have also been informed that since there WAS litigation, it is very
unlikely that there will be a re-issue of the TD soundtrack.

The UK issue of the soundtrack is also available:
 
1986	Legend
 
	Jerry Goldsmith

	5.02 My True Love Eyes
	3.40 Riddle
	1.06 Sing The Wee
	3.41 Goblins
	2.44 Dress Waltz
	6.29 Ring
	7.53 Unicorns
	5.03 Bumps And Hollows
	5.11 Forgive Me
	5.17 Re-United

		CD UK Up Art: 86002

I belive there is also an LP and Cassette.

All of the above releases are no longer available. You may be able to
find them but it is unlikely. There have been rumours of a re-issue of
the Goldsmith CD but I haven't seen any copies.

-- 
-Dave datta@cs.uwp.edu.

Going on means going far. Going far means returning.
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Subject: Re: ABBA "The Visitors"
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:09:49 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <131135@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.190601.20523@news.acns.nwu.edu> homulka@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Thomas Homulka) writes:
>
>I've heard a rumor that ABBA's catalog will be released on CD
>in the US sometime soon, but it's only a rumor, so it should be
>taken with a grain of salt.  At the moment, the only two albums
>available in the US are the two volumes of Greatest Hits.

I looked in vain for this. Finally I found "The Singles - The First Ten Years"
and "The Hits Box" at a store that stocks imports. I went for The Hits Box.



-- 
_______________________________Mike Schuster________________________________
NY Pub. Access UNIX/Internet: schuster@panix.com | 70346.1745@CompuServe.COM
The Portal (R) System: schuster@cup.portal.com   | MCI Mail,GEnie: MSCHUSTER
From: fuzzbox@world.std.com (Heavenly Metal)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: U.F.Orb (the story continues)
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:31:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:

>I've been told now that some copies of the new Orb video in the UK
>("Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld: Patterns And Textures") contain the
>live bonus album on CD.  True?  Can anyone in the UK help me line up
>a copy of this?  I'm serious, folks . . . I'm reduced to begging here.

According to my UK connection, who i just got off the phone with, some
copies of the Video are coming packaged with copies of the *vinyl* live
album, but she's never come across a copy with the CD attached, nor could
she confirm that a CD copy of the album exists at present time. 

She did say that the live album was planned to be released on CD in the 
near future, though. I asked her to keep an eye out for any of the
video-CD packages, though. BTW- I could use 2 copies.....

Jason Bilsky  fuzzbox@world.std.com
Xref: sparky rec.music.cd:5451 misc.legal:14636
From: krj@netsun.cl.msu.edu (Ken Josenhans)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,misc.legal
Subject: Copyright laws & Imports: NYT, 7/21/92
Date: 22 Jul 92 01:20:11 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

The business pages of today's New York Times (7/21/92) contain an article
about a perfume company's attempt to use a copyright on its packaging to 
attack grey-market imports into the US.  There are some references to 
the precedents set in the recording industry, one of which advances a 
legal theory I had not heard applied in this situation.  The relevant 
paragraphs:

"Last Christmas Eve, the US Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit
determined that a Los Angeles record store owner, Edmundo Perez, had
violated copyright laws by purchasing recordings manufactured abroad 
and importing them to the United States without the permission of BMG Music,
CBS Inc, and A&M Records Inc, the companies holding the copyrights."

...

"While Parfums Givenchy is arguing that its situation is no different
from that of the recording companies, there is an apparent contradiction
in the copyright act that might affect this case.. ((saith the lawyer)).
On the one hand, a section of the law prohibits the importation of 
copyrighted material without consent of the copyright holder.  But 
another section of the act, called the first-sale doctrine, prevents a 
copyright holder from restricting the sale of his material if it was 
acquired lawfully.  Theoretically, lawyers say, a distributor could sell a 
company's products if it obtained them lawfully from a second party.

"THE FEDERAL COURTS HAVE SPLIT ON WHICH SECTION TAKES PRECEDENCE.  ((emphasis
mine - krj))  But in its ruling against Mr. Perez, the Ninth Circuit 
reasoned that the first-sale doctrine applied only to copies made and sold in 
the United States."

-----

Dare we hope that the Supreme Court would use the First Sale doctrine
to allow the restoration of the imported record industry back to its
flourishing health in the 1970's and early 80's?

Primary posting to rec.music.cd.  Cross-posted to misc.legal in the hopes
of eliciting some knowledgable responses.
 
-- 
--Ken Josenhans
    BITNET:  13020KRJ@MSU     Internet: 13020KRJ@msu.edu 
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc,alt.music.progressive
From: white@mps.ohio-state.edu (The Master)
Subject: Re: King Crimson / Discipline question
Organization: S.H.A.D.O.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:15:17 GMT


	I read a recent interview with Fripp in which he discussed the
remastering of "Discipline".  He stated that at the time of the re-
mastering he thought removing the guitar part on "Matte Kudesai" (sp?)
was a wise choice, but now in hindsight he wishes he hadn't done it.
So, it was definitely Fripp's decision to remove his parts, but he
now admits it was a bad decision.

Dave White
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|  Dave White                       |  Lake Shore Cryotronics              |
|  Software Engineer                |  64 E Walnut Street                  |
|__white@geo2s.mps.ohio-state.edu___|__Westerville, Ohio 43081_____________|
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: lhn1935@usl.edu (Ng Lap H)
Subject: Any David Gates' Singles?
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 01:53:44 GMT

	Could anyone tell me whether there is any CDs that
have songs sung by David Gates like Goodbye Girl, ..., etc?

Thanks,
Lap-hung Ng
lhn1935@bss.usl.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: umande91@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Benjamin Robert Anderson)
Subject: Re: Sony Discman Problem
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:27:04 GMT

In article <92211.153421WEISHAAR@NDSUVM1.BITNET> Mark Weishaar <WEISHAAR@NDSUVM1.BITNET> writes:
>Just a question on a problem I have with my Sony Discman Model D-9:
>On certain cds, the player will continuously skip on the first track; but
>here's the weird thing, if the player is setting horizontal it skips, but
>if held vertically, the player doesn't skip.  If anyone has an idea of what
>the problem is and maybe a guestimate on how much it would cost to fix it,
>please email me.  Thanx.
>+--------------------+-------------------------------------------+
>| Mark Weishaar      | "If you could see the you that I see      |
>| weishaar@ndsuvm1   |  when I see you You would see things      |
>| North Dakota State |  differently I assure you" -Rollins Band  |
>+--------------------+-------------------------------------------+

   My Sony D-66 does the same thing. I wonder if this is a Sony problem. Have
you ever dropped your player?? I have and that's when it went. If someone has 
an answer please post, as I would like to know also.

                                                Thanks.
From: bsou@cs.arizona.edu (Brandon S. Ou)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Taping CD'sDIR
Date: 24 Jul 92 19:08:39 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Jul24.091907.201@nutmeg.hnrc.tufts.edu> jerry@nutmeg.hnrc.tufts.edu (Jerry Dallal) writes:

>> I've always wondered about that also:  If all these CD's and TV shows
>> and videotapes and softwares are copyrighted and all that, why do they
>> even sell blank tapes and videocassettes etc for then?
>
>Sony fought this one through the courts so that VCR technology wouldn't die
>aborning.  Basically, the "fair use" provision of the copyright law allows you
>to videotape programs for your own use.  Again, you should not make 2nd
>generation copies for further distribution.  (This also applies to radio
>broadcasts.  If a local radio station broadcasts an album in its entirety, you
>can tape it for your own use, but this limited permission to copy does not
>allow you to start selling copies of your tape.)

Now I know we're getting a little out of subject (CDs), but does that
mean we can also tape the movies we rent?  As long as we keep it
to ourselves?  Although it is not possible to do that anymore since
the makers put some kind of @#$% on the tape so the screen goes wild
as soon as you hit record button, but that can easily be overcome if
you have an 8mm.  :-)
BTW, does anybody know how that is done?  (the interference I mean)


Brandon

--
Brandon S. Ou               Computer Science    
University of Arizona       Tucson, Arizona
Internet:  bsou@caslon.cs.arizona.edu
" It's up to YOU... "  - Kevin Costner as Jim Garrison, "JFK" 

Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: phc65823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peter H. Chou)
Subject: squeaky tape player, noisy CD motor
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 23:22:53 GMT



Hi, this might not be the place to ask, but is there anything
one can do about a squeaky tape player and a noisy CD head, I guess
it would be.  It makes noise (whirs) whenever a cd is loaded/unloaded
and whenever it does a seek.
From: dmg4449@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Cleaning CDs
Reply-To: dmg4449@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:44:39 GMT

Hopefully this isn't a FAQ! :)

I have scratched up a CD pretty well when I didn't have it in it's jewel box
for a while.  What is the most effective, economical way to clean a CD.  Can I
just use a glass cleaner on paper towels or is there a particular type of
cleaner/cloth that yields the best results?

Daniel M. Greenberg ... existing at ...  Rochester Institute of Technology

BITNET    : DMG4449@RITVAX                INTERNET: dmg4449@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
COMMERICAL: America Online: DanielG10@aol.com
US MAIL   : CPU 1026 25 Andrews Memorial Dr.  Rochester, NY  14623
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: reggel@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Hans-Juergen Reggel)
Subject: Re: Stranded With Music!
Originator: reggel@hphalle7a.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 06:49:23 GMT


In article <1992Jul30.180620.22875@ll.mit.edu>, hemenway@ll.mit.edu writes:
|> At the risk of starting something not appreciated,
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> I am interested in your choice of ten albums that
|> you would take with you if your were to be stranded 
|> on a desert island (or in space, or whatever).
|> 
|> (...)
|> 
|> (Jazz selections next trip)
|> 
|> -Roe.  <hemenway@ll.mit.edu>
|> 

Sorry, but I HATE this topic! Please take 'em with you on an Island.
I'll stay here at home having all of my 1750 CD's.

                                                Hans-Juergen

                                
 
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: epog6796@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Eric Peter Olson)
Subject: Re: Taping CD's
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:35:18 GMT

winnipg@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Bryan Kelln) writes:

>No doubt these questions have been asked before but I just began receiving
>this part of the net so no flames.
> 
>Should I leave DOLBY on when taping a CD? When playing the tape?

Dolby B is a "filter" that tends to boost sounds around the "tape hiss"
frequency when recording.  It reduces those same sounds during playback--
so you hear the original music with less tape hiss.  Dolby C is like
Dolby B, but better (more filtering)   So   ...
  Record without Dolby -> play without Dolby
  Record with Dolby B -> play with Dolby B
  Record with Dolby C -> play with Dolby C
playing Dolby B tapes without Dolby B is tolerable (esp w/walkman & car)
playing Dolby C tapes without Dolby C is not as tolerable. 

>If I have a type II cassette should I record onto the tape with the tape 
>machine set for T-II or something else?
Different tapes types are made of different materials.  A tape recorder
can do a better job if it can set the bias to match the tape type (I,II,Metal) 
Some recorders do this automatically by sensing holes in the top of the
tape (just like they do the write protect tabs) :  
   top of tape only has write protect holes/tabs : type I
   top of tape has hole next to write protect: type II   
   metal has another hole on the top, Don't remember where.

>And any other advice people can give.
HX-Pro adjusts the bias dynamically as you record

>;--- (Bryan Kelln) a user of sys6626, running waffle 1.64
>;E-mail: winnipg@sys6626.bison.mb.ca
>;system 6626: 63 point west drive, winnipeg manitoba canada R3T 5G8
From: winnipg@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Bryan Kelln)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Taping CD's
Date: 23 Jul 92 07:30:23 GMT
Organization: system 6626 BBS, Winnipeg MB

No doubt these questions have been asked before but I just began receiving
this part of the net so no flames.
 
Should I leave DOLBY on when taping a CD? When playing the tape?
If I have a type II cassette should I record onto the tape with the tape 
machine set for T-II or something else?
And any other advice people can give.

;--- (Bryan Kelln) a user of sys6626, running waffle 1.64
;E-mail: winnipg@sys6626.bison.mb.ca
;system 6626: 63 point west drive, winnipeg manitoba canada R3T 5G8
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: ola@vipunen.hut.fi (Ola Rinta-Koski)
Subject: Re: Genesis (again)
Organization: BREWTeX '92 -- International Boy Stout Organization
Date: 23 Jul 92 12:30:51

In article <1992Jul22.001030.6234@news.iastate.edu> glitto@iastate.edu (Scott M Klabacha) writes:
(about differences between Genesis CD pressings)
>Could someone please send me the list, too?  The only differences I know are in
>_From Genesis to Revelation_, _Spot the Pigeon_, and inclusion/exclusion of lyric
>sheets (I've gotten lyrics to every studio album except FGTR, _Wind and Wuthering_,
>and _Abacab_ by buying used Charisma imports for $3 or so).

  Don't forget "Three Sides Live", which comes in two versions (this is
really a FAQ by now) regarding the fourth side (it's live in the British
pressing, studio in the "regular" pressing).

  By the way, does anybody know why the four-live-sides version exists?
--
	play the piano drunk                  ola rinta-koski
		like a percussion instrument  ola@vipunen.hut.fi
until the fingers begin to bleed a bit        ok 20 b 22  02150 espoo  finland
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd