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From: aroll@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (Ashley Roll)
Subject: FAQ request
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 04:30:54 GMT

can some kind person please send me the FAQ?

Thank,
Ashley Roll


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From: lipman@physics.Berkeley.EDU (Everett Lipman)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Re: Security of Master combination locks
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:53:21 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.berkeley.edu



>                                   Can somebody tell me what kind of
> approach people use to defeat Master combination locks (not including
> sledgehammers, of course)?  If this kind of lock is not secure, what
> would be a good padlock to use for a rented storage?

I have not had any experience with non-destructive methods of opening
master combination locks, but they can be easily opened in under 5
minutes with a pair of regular pliers and a flat blade screwdriver.
The back side of the lock is covered by a thin piece of sheet metal 
which is held in place by the folded-over edge of the side of the 
case.  Using the pliers, you can peel back the edge, push the screwdriver
under the piece of sheet metal, and pop it off.  After the sheet metal
cover is gone, you can see the tumblers, which makes it simple to line
up the notches and open the lock.  The last step is very easy after you
take apart one of these locks to see what is going on.  I would not 
use one of these locks to guard anything important.

Everett Lipman (lipman@physics.berkeley.edu)
From: patrik@cup.portal.com (Patrick M Crumhorn)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: War on Drugs not to everyone's liking (!)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 19:59:21 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)


=START=   XMT: 12:08 Wed Jul 22  EXP: 12:00 Thu Jul 23 

RURAL U.S. RESIDENTS SAY DEA MARIJUANA PATROLS MAKING LIFE UNBEARABLE 

(JULY 22) COMTEX - SOME AMERICANS THINK THE WAR ON DRUGS CAN GO TOO FAR. RURAL
RESIDENTS SAY MARIJUANA PATROLS ARE MAKING THEIR LIVES UNBEARABLE. THE U-S DRUG
ENFORCEMENT AGENCY AND LOCAL POLICE ARE INCREASING THEIR USE OF LOW-FLYING
HELICOPTERS TO FIND POT PLANTS.  BUT RURAL RESIDENTS SAY THE NOISE FROM THOSE
EFFORTS IS SPOOKING LIVESTOCK AND CAUSING CHICKENS TO STOP LAYING EGGS.  AND
CRITICS SAY OF THE 139-MILLION POT PLANTS CONFISCATED LAST YEAR, ALL BUT
FIVE-MILLION WERE GROWING WILD. 

SOURCE:  ZAPNEWS 



=END= 
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From: fzjaffe@othello.ucdavis.edu (Rory Jaffe)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,sci.med
Subject: Re: Ketamine et al.
Keywords: ketamine
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:52:10 GMT
Followup-To: alt.drugs
Organization: University of California, Davis

In article <1992Jul22.152231.29708@cs.yale.edu> smith-jeff@CS.YALE.EDU (Jeff Smith) writes:
>All the discussion going on recently about ketamine and its
>use/uselessness at raves has made me curious about your experiences
>with other "induction drugs" (drugs that are *medically* used to help
>a patient with the transition into general anesthetic), such as
>thiopental, etomidate, midazolam, methohexital and inhaled halothane.

Anesthesiology is the only specialty in which respiratory arrest is
desired.  Those drugs do a good job of inducing respiratory arrest.  If
that's what you want, go ahead. (FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO CANNOT FIND THE
SARCASM IN THAT LAST SENTENCE, read my lips: it's stupid to try those
drugs!) 
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson)
Subject: Re: What is the Health Risk from Smoking MJ?
Originator: glp@merlin
Keywords: Smoking, Tobacco, Marijuana, Health
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:39:12 GMT


In article <15868@pitt.UUCP>, geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul28.013619.11668@athena.cs.uga.edu> mcovingt@athena.cs.uga.edu (Michael A. Covington) writes:
|> >"Marijuana has never caused a death" is a factoid that I hear quoted
|> >often.  And I'm not inclined to believe it.  Hasn't even _one_ stoned
|> 
|> I believe Bob Marley died from smoking so much ganga he got lung
|> cancer.

Brain tumor.  I'm not surprised that this sort of
erroneous cause/effect statement was made on sci.med,
I'm just surprised at its source.

-- 
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From: bprofane@netcom.com (Gert Niewahr)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Xochipilli in _Whole Earth Review__
Date: 23 Jul 92 07:53:36 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <9ffm!kp.rcain@netcom.com> rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain) writes:
>clauded@tekig6.PEN.TEK.COM (Steven R Denton) writes:
>: Can someone please send me (or post) the address of LordNose?
>: 
>: claude
>
>Email address: lordnose@well.sf.ca.us

I think one of that points that lunatic from the Well made was that
Lordnose! wasn't taking orders through e-mail.  I mean, you've
gotta send 'em the money first, so why bother with e-mail?

   LordNose!
   PO Box 170473G
   SF, CA  94117-0473
From: lamontg@milton.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Info. on nutmeg
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:33:54 GMT
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'

basher@ces.cwru.edu (Tim Basher) writes:
>In <lamontg.711971835@milton> (Lamont Granquist) writes:
>> The hypothalamus doesn't generate dopamine.  And MDA/MDMA/MMDA do not
>> kill *any* neurons, and most definitely THEY DONT FUCKING IMITATE IDEOPATHIC
>> PARKINSONS DISEASE.  PLEASE STOP BEING AN UTTER FUCKING IDIOT AND SPREADING
>> BULLSHIT MISINFORMATION LIKE THIS.
>
>Well, I can't agree completely with either of you [but Lamont is much closer].
>
>MDA and MDMA have been shown to be selectively neurotoxic to seratonergic
>neurons in the brain of rats and monkees.  Note that these are NOT dopamine
>neurons and such damage has NOT been shown in humans.

Right, however I am also correct.  They do not kill neurons.  They
kill axon projections from seratonin neurons which grow back via axonal
arborization (but not all of them apparently -- assuming that depleted 5-HT
levels corresponds roughly to the number of axons).

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: "ryan nyberg" <ryan.nyberg@execnet.com>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: prescription drug
Date: 24 Jul 92 23:06:40 EST
Reply-To: "ryan nyberg" <ryan.nyberg@execnet.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Executive Networks Information

> My doctor gave me Cyclobenzaprine HCL 10mg for my bad back.
>Anybody know and could tell me what this drug is and does?

SD>Cyclobenzaprine is a tricyclic antidepressant which is used as a "muscle
SD>relaxant" in cases of lower back pain and strain.  It's popular only because
SD>it's not a controlled substance, unlike a drug like Valium.  It can cause
SD>drowsiness (though not a pleasant drowsiness), dry mouth and constipation.

Steve, is this the same as the stuff branded as "flexaril" ? I through
my back out for a few days last month and was prescribed cyclobenzaprine
as well. I took it and found that while its effects took several hours
to come on, it also took a few days for them to wear off. Gave me a real
spaced out feeling, at times even drowsy, but all in all, not that
unpleasant.
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: bd@c3consult.comm.se (Bjorn Danielsson)
Subject: Re: Floaters (was Re: LSD - After effects)
Organization: Communicator C3Consult AB
	<1992Jul25.002240.10082@stiatl.salestech.com>
	<1992Jul27.080555.27781@ms.uky.edu>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 01:23:15 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.080555.27781@ms.uky.edu> sean@ms.uky.edu (Sean Casey) writes:
>Floaters can also be scratches in your cornea. I've had "floaters"
>that didn't change shape or position for a week. They certainly
>wouldn't do that if they were free floating.

I have scars on my retinas, probably caused from staring into the sun while
tripping on aci...  >>STOP<<   REWIND   Sorry, that story belongs in the
strychnine universe, doesn't it?   :)

Actually, I do have scars on my retinas. An eye doctor's diagnosis. I've had
these scars as long as I can remember, so as a kid I probably *did* look
straight into the face of our local star for too long. The scars are visible
only when I stare at some homogenous area (a blue sky is perfect), and then
I always see all sorts of other garbage too, dead cells or whatever.

Obviously, the Sun should be outlawed since it can cause retina scars,
skin cancer, blindness, proton flares, and other problems. When abused.
 
--
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Communicator C3Consult AB       | that Hamlet exists?
Uppsala, Sweden                 |                        -- Robert Nozick
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,sci.psychology,talk.politics.drugs
From: dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell)
Subject: Re: Partial Legalization
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 03:17:18 GMT

jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger) writes:

>
>There is a class of substances whose mere exposure leads to addiction.
>

Yeah........so WHAT IS IT?!?

I hate it when people do that.

-- 
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               Andre Marrou -- Libertarian for President 1992
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From: pck@acsu.buffalo.edu (Philip C. Kilinskas)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,sci.med
Subject: Re: What is the Health Risk from Smoking MJ?
Keywords: Smoking, Tobacco, Marijuana, Health
Date: 29 Jul 92 02:37:48 GMT
Organization: UB

bill@hacktic.nl (Bill Squire) writes:

>dangerous.  However, except in the extremely rare cases that somebodys body
>sees THC as a poison, it is probably safe to say there are FEW deaths directly
>related to the toxicity of cannabis alone.

I remember reading once that to obtain the LD50 of THC, one would have to
smoke the equivalent of 10,000 joints.  If this is true, I think it would be
safe to say there have been NO deaths due to THC toxicity the entire time
cannabis has been used as a drug.  Deaths due to impairment are entirely
another matter. 

Phil
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Your eyes are weary from staring at the CRT.  You feel sleepy.  Notice how
restful it is to watch the cursor blink.  Close your eyes.  The opinions
stated above are yours.  You cannot imagine why you ever felt otherwise.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lamontg@milton.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: LSD - After effects
Keywords: LSD, Acid, flashback, Ren & Stimpy
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 01:38:17 GMT

craig@ug.cs.dal.ca (Ryan Craig) writes:
>Question:  Has anyone out there ever actually had a flash-back?  Better
>still, what exactly is a flash-back supposed to be like?  I sometimes
>think that it sounds like another one of those stories cooked up to scare
>people, or maybe it's PCP that causes these.  I've done more than enough L.
>and have never had anything noticeable in the way of after effects.  Maybe
>a little bit of spurious visual effects - very minor and not at all
>disturbing.  If a flash back is supposed to be like the original trip 
>feeling, doesn't sound all that bad to me.  Anyway...

My guess is that a "flashback" is caused by Post Traumatic Stress Disorder
from an extraordinarily psychologically bad trip.  No surprise, therefore,
that you've never gotten one and no one you know has.

-- 
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University of Washington, Seattle.    Disc: if UW ever finds out what I post... 
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From: Malfera@cup.portal.com (Dan M Healy)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: LSD->Insanity (ooh, scary!)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 22:15:48 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

The best one i've heard is 'If you take x number of hits of LSD you
can get arested for trying to overthrow the government'

Now this sounds totaly insane to me (maybe that's why i like it so
much)...I don't suppose theres any truth to it?   :)





					Malfera@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: First-hand account on what smoking Ice is like:  forwarded
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 05:19:25 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
: 
: -----------------------forwarded material follows ----------------------
: --------------------------------------------------------------------
: It is available in all larger urban areas, but is not common.  You need to
: be pretty well connected to get it.
: 
: Boiling point is very low.  You can smoke it by placing about 10 mg
: on aluminum foil, and holding a lighter under the foil to warm it.
: It vaporizes into a white cloud, and you suck the smoke through a tube
: or something to help catch all the smoke.  It comes in a white powder,
: and looks similar to good white heroin.  I think it would be hard
: to aldulterate, unless you adulterated it with something that also
: vaporized very easily.  Ie, if you aldulterated it with sugar, the
: Aminorex would evaporate first, then the sugar would just burn, and
: you would be aware that you got burned.

From this and the remainder of the description I believe it is crystal meth.

Bob
-- 
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Stomp out intolerance!

Newsgroups: alt.drugs,sci.psychology,talk.politics.drugs
From: dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell)
Subject: Re: Partial Legalization
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 22:00:17 GMT

jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger) writes:

>I don't know what "regular users" are, I have contended nothing
>about them, I don't expect inquiry on hopelessly vague terms to
>be very productive, and I've written nothing on the subject.

Well, I'd take a look at your own vague terms before casting stones.

>> please use drugs that affect people this way,
>> rather than affecting rats.
>
>Why should we limit inquiry to a particular species?

Because it's foolish to consider passing laws prohibiting rats from
snorting coke.  That's what this whole argument is based in: how all this
theory, research, and real-life results is going to affect the legal
treatment of this stuff.  Drugs are illegal because the government says
they're 'bad'.  Does science bear this out?  If it doesn't, then there's no
reason for drugs to be illegal, right?

>
>> I would say that the pleasure derived from the drug is more likely 
>> to lead to abuse than any addictive potential.
>
>Circularity time.  How do you measure pleasure?
>
>-- Jon
>
>Jon Krueger  jpk@ingres.com  
-- 
=========*davE*.....making the world safe for intelligent dance music.=========
               Andre Marrou -- Libertarian for President 1992
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs,sci.psychology,talk.politics.drugs
From: dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell)
Subject: Re: Partial Legalization
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 03:08:29 GMT

jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger) writes his definition of addiction:

>	chemical and/or physiological change of system from resting state
>	withdrawal
>	tolerance
>	behavior seeking the substance

You're still playing loose and fast with terms here.  Chemical and/or
physiological change of the system from a resting state occurs under many
circumstances, not just drug use.  Withdrawal is poorly defined in this 
discussion, and you've not defined this term at all.  Tolerance?  Perhaps, 
but compulsion to use doesn't necessarily involve tolerance.  Drug-seeking 
behaviour would only be valid if it were compulsive or otherwise irrational.

I can see a particular combination of levels of each of the phenomena you
listed being used as a valid definition of 'addiction', but you've not
stated thresholds of these phenomena, and you haven't made distinctions
between physiological and psychological factors, nor how any of these
factors interact.

I'm sure you'll understand if I find your stance rather dubious....actually, 
vacuous is probably a better word.

-- 
=========*davE*.....making the world safe for intelligent dance music.=========
               Andre Marrou -- Libertarian for President 1992
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From: u8951608@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Info. on nutmeg
Date: 27 Jul 92 12:35:50 GMT
Organization: University of New South Wales

In article <lamontg.711912775@milton>, lamontg@milton.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist) writes:
> 781101@redgum.bcae.oz.au (100) writes:
>>  I have also heard reports of using the active components (myristicin
>>I think) as a reagent in the synthesis of other psychoactive drugs. Is
>>this true, and if so, how easy is it to do. I am studying Organic Chem.,
>>so any reaction mechanisms etc will be handy. If you can help, please
>>e-mail me. Thanx...
> 
> myristicin can be used to make MMDA.  See Shulgin's PIHKAL book for 
> synthesis instructions.

If you have pure myristicin, making MMDA is as hard (or as easy) as
making MDMA from safrole. Getting pure myristicin from nutmeg is quite
a tall order. The best you could hope to do without a lot of equipment,
would be to distill the extracted oil from nutmeg several times, until
you got a fraction which is mostly myristicin, safrole, and elemicin.
I think elemicin is the precursor for one of the TMA's (can't recall
which offhand). This whole process sounds like a lot of work to me.
I tried once upon a time to isolate firstly nutmeg oil and secondly 
the allyl-benzene fraction but gave up.
If you can isolate this fraction (check the CRC handbook or Merck for
boiling points) then the conversion to amphetamines is best done by
a three step process: isomerisation to propenylbenzenes using KOH,
oxidation via an epoxide to a phenylacetone, and reductive amination.

>  Its also possible to make MMDA from myristicin
> from a liver preparation 
But not unless you have access to bat's wing and eye of newt.
Give us a reference for this sometime, Lamont.

> which has caused some theorizing that the
> myristicin in nutmeg is actually metabolized into MMDA in the body, which
> gets you buzzed.
I doubt it very much in normal healthy people. There is no good evidence
for this notion. Moreover, the supposed activity of nutmeg has been
found to be greater than the activity for the allyl-benzene fraction.
 
> I think there might be other essential oils in nutmeg which can be
> used to make TMA, MDMA, MDA and other nifty shit...  Offhand, I can't
> remember which ones are in nutmeg and which ones you need to find
> elsewhere -- again see PiHKAL.
> 
See above. From memory, the essential oil is something like 
6% safrole, 4% myristicin and 1% elemicin. The rest is a nasty
cocktail of terpenes, terpineols, and myrstic acid (C14). 
There are other essential oils which contain allyl-benznes, e.g.
Calamus.

Jeremy
jeremy@rsc3.anu.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs,misc.legal
From: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Subject: Re: Partial Legalization
Reply-To: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Distribution: usa
Date: 30 Jul 92 01:42:11 GMT

Pete Hartman writes:
> you used terms like "addiction" which clearly don't have the
> same meanings between your usage and our perceptions.

Clearly they don't.  I defined my terms.  Compare my definitions with
your perceptions if you like.

>> Why should we limit inquiry to a particular species?
>
> Because, while SOME results are applicable across the spectrum,
> many are not.

All the more reason not to limit inquiry to a particular species; we
would then never know which are species specific, a fact useful in
behavior analysis.

-- Jon
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Subject: Re: Natural vs syntesized.
Organization: Microdata International Telecomm Service, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:11:45 GMT

mhergert@esk (Mark Ivan Hergert) writes:

>	Yeh, well Mescaline, Psilocybin and LSD all have a cross tolerance
>development, and they are all Indole alkoloids which affect the brain    
>through a common mechanism

   Mescaline is not an indole and not an "alkoloid" because it is not
heterocyclic. Would you enlighten me on this "common" mechanism? According
to The Merck Manual, a cross tolerance between mescaline and LSD (probably
the other indoles as well) does not occur.
-- 
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jah@mits.mdata.fi       Is this more important than the stories that he tells?"
                            --Yardbirds
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: bprofane@netcom.com (Gert Niewahr)
Subject: Re: Canned shrooms?
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 09:05:54 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <Bs5z22.Ipq@ecf.toronto.edu> ricegm@ecf.toronto.edu (George Matthew Rice) writes:
>What about extracting the p &p from the fresh mushroom's?
>Is that even an option to the layman ?

You can extract the psilocin & psilocybin from shrooms with the
standard refluxing procedure described in the FAQ.  I have one
source that describes industrial cultivation and extraction of P.
Cubensis mycellia.

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