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From: garbe@smith.phys.ucalgary.ca (Greg Garbe)
Subject: Re: Defunct Bowl Games
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 21:55:48 GMT
Reply-To: garbe@smith.phys.ucalgary.ca (Greg Garbe)
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta, Canada

In article <78297@hydra.gatech.EDU>, mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes:
|
|> The remaining defunct bowls and their results are reproduced
|> below:
|> 
|> Alamo Bowl, San Antonio, TX:	1-4-47		Hardin-Simmons 20, Denver 0
|> Aviation Bowl, Dayton, OH:	12-9-61		New Mexico 28, W. Michigan 12
|> Bicardi Bowl, Havana, Cuba:	1-1-37		Auburn 7, Villanova 7
|> Bluegrass Bowl, Louisville, KY:	12-13-58	Oklahoma St. 15, Florida St. 6
|> Camellia Bowl, Lafayette, LA:	12-30-48	Hardon-Simmons 48, Wich. St. 12
|> Cherry Bowl, Pontiac, MI:	12-22-84	Army 10, Michigan St. 6
|> 				12-21-85	Maryland 35, Syracuse 18
|> Delta Bowl, Memphis, TN:	1-1-48		Ole Miss 13, TCU 9
|> 				1-1-49		William & Mary 20, Okla. St. 0
|> Dixie Bowl, Birmingham, AL:	1-1-48		Arkansas 21, William & Mary 19
|> 				1-1-49		Baylor 20, Wake Forest 7
|> Dixie Classic, Dallas, TX:	1-2-22		Texas A&M 22, Centre 14
|> 				1-1-25		WV Wesleyan 9, SMU 7
|> 				1-1-34		Arkansas 7, Centenary 7
|> Fort Worth (TX) Classic:	1-1-21		Centre 63, TCU 7
|> Garden State Bowl, E. Ruth, NJ:	12-16-78	Arizona St. 34, Rutgers 18
|> 				12-15-79	Temple 28, Cal 17
|> 				12-14-80	Houston 35, Navy 0
|> 				12-13-81	Tennessee 28, Wisconsin 21
|> Gotham Bowl, NYC, NY:		12-9-61		Baylor 24, Utah St. 9
|> 				12-15-62	Nebraska 36, Miami (FL) 34
|> Gr. Lakes Bowl, Cleveland, OH:	12-6-47		Kentucky 24, Villanova 14
|> Harbor Bowl, San Diego, CA:	1-1-47		New Mexico 13, Montana St. 13
|> 				1-1-48		Hardon-Simmons 53, SD St. 0
|> 				1-1-49		Villanova 27, Nevada 7
|> LA Christmas Festival, LA, CA:	12-25-24	Southern Cal 20, Missouri 7
|> Mercy Bowl, Los Angeles, CA:	11-23-61	Fresno St. 36, Bowling Green 6
|> Oil Bowl, Houston, TX:		1-1-46		Georgia 20, Tulsa 6
|> 				1-1-47		Georgia Tech 41, St. Mary's 19
|> Pasadena Bowl, Pasadena, CA:	12-2-67		W. Texas St. 35, Cal St.-NR 13
|> (a.k.a. Junior Rose Bowl)	12-6-69		San Diego St. 28, Boston 7
|> 				12-19-70	Louisville 24, Long Beach St 24
|> 				12-18-71	Memphis St. 28, San Jose St 9
|> Presidential Cup, C. Park, MD:	12-9-50		Texas A&M 40, Georgia 20
|> Salad Bowl, Phoenix, AZ:	1-1-48		Nevada 13, N. Texas St. 6
|> 				1-1-49		Drake 14, Arizona 13
|> 				1-1-50		Xavier (OH) 33, Arizona St. 21
|> 				1-1-51		Miami (OH) 34, Arizona St. 21
|> 				1-1-52		Houston 26, Dayton 21
|> San Diego (CA) Xmas Classic:	12-26-21	Centre 38, Arizona 0
|> 				12-25-22	W. Virginia 21, Gonzaga 13
|> Shrine Bowl, Little Rock, AK:	12-18-48	Hardin-Simmons 40, Ouachita 12
|> 
|> -- 
|> Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
|> 
|>            "You're living in your own private Idaho."

In last year's Seattlle Times Rose Bowl preview they had the Huskies beating
Hawaii in the  Pineapple Bowl sometime in the thirties (help Cliff).
From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: NOTRE DAME IS THE GREATEST
Date: 17 Dec 1992 14:05:14 GMT
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
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> In article <BzBw2x.MvL@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
> brandtch@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Chris Brandt) writes:
> >
> >Notre Dame will kick Texas A&M's *** in the Cotton Bowl!
> >Then we'll listen to the Aggies talk about how they
> >should have played someone higher ranked than ND.
> >Give Lou Holtz six weeks to prepare for a game and
> >he'll come out a winner.

  I can't resist:

  Like he did for the '88 Cotton Bowl? (A&M 35 ND 10)

Let me remind you we wanted FSU for the outside shot at the MNC and to get
revenge for leapfrogging us (not that FSU controls the voters or anything) --
not because we felt we deserved "better than Notre Dame".

  And while we're woofing about the game, I feel if the game is close at half-
time (within 10 pts), no matter who has the lead, the Ags will win, barring
wierdness.  A&M has been very good at 2nd half adjustments this year that allow
them to control the 3rd and 4th quarters of most games.

  This is not to suggest that this will be easy.  I'm sure we'll have an ex-
cellent, hard-fought game.  I'm looking forward to it.


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
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From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Subject: Re: Defunct Bowl Games
Organization: American Math. Society
	<1992Dec15.001125.12808@cs.uoregon.edu>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:53:41 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.001125.12808@cs.uoregon.edu> elliott@majestix.cs.uoregon.edu (Elliott E. Lee) writes:

   >I think the Bluebonnet bowl was in Houston.  I also thought that this was
   >a larger bowl -- larger than most bowls (not orange,rose etc) because
   >I remember UCLA went one year.  Actually I think the Bluebonnet was a pretty
   >old game.  Why did they stop?  

My personal theory is that they killed it because Michigan played very
well and actually won a Bluebonnet Bowl game (against UCLA).  That
kind of thing could set a dangerous precedence!




-Alan Harder                
 Go Blue!                   

 My opinions are not the opinions of the American Mathematical Society.
 Did you think they were?

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From: john7552@mach1.wlu.ca (Niall Johnson u)
Subject: Heisman
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 05:53:38 GMT

Mmmmm.... so Miami's Gino Toretta is this season's Heisman winner.

Is Toretta the best player in college football this year? Is he the best QB
in college football this year.

IMHO, No and No!

I believe that there are several QB's better than Toretta (e.g. Shane
Matthews (sp?), SMU's Freiburger, the qb's at Syracuse, Stanford, etc., 
Ward at FSU, Grbac at Michigan, etc., etc.)

This kid won on the strength of a 28-1 record as a starter ... however I
believe that any half-bright qb could have compiled such a record with the
calibre of player that UM has.

Yes, he's a decent qb, but the BEST player in college ball? No!

Both Hearst and Faulk would have been more deserving winners. Both are
better players (IMHO) and mean more to their respective teams than Toretta.
Personally I don't believe Miami is the best team in football (i think FSU
is right now) but I accept that they 'deserve' the MNC that will be theirs
shortly... however I don't believe that Toretta has earnt the Heisman ... it
has not been his play that has placed Miami at the top... they have won with
him, not because of him. I think the UM defence is better than some people
are willing to credit and their offence is good, but gets a great deal of
help from the defence.

I'm not a great fan of Miami ... too much junk for my liking, but they do
have some of the best talent... but Toretta is not the best player in
football. 

Obviously some people will disagree, others will agree; that is your
perogative.


Ciao

Niall Johnson,
Dept. of Geography,
Wilfrid Laurier University.
     john7552@mach1.wlu.ca
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From: pdunn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick L Dunn)
Subject: Re: Defunct Bowl Games
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:40:49 GMT

In article <14DEC199213533166@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> acdendy@lims01.lerc.nasa.go
v (ROGER DENDY) writes:
>I'm compiling a list of Bowls-that-Were-but-Ain't-no-More, and I need some
>net.assistance.  I need to find a total of 13 with their locations, and so
>far I have five and only one location, as follows:
>
>Bowl               Location
>----               --------
>California Raisin  Fresno CA
>Bluebonnet         ??
>Tangerine          ??
>Garden State
>Cherry

Lest we forget, the All American Bowl was played until a couple of years ago.

Also, there was the famous "Cigar Bowl," probably played in Havanna.

PDunn
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From: tbreeden@afit.af.mil (Thomas A. Breeden)
Subject: Re: Da' Gator Bowl
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 16:19:43 GMT

In article <1992Dec8.143219.16136@ncsu.edu> bsricker@eos.ncsu.edu (BRIAN SCOTT RICKER) writes:
>
>I thought I'd throw out the first predicition on the 
>Outback Steakhouse Gator Bowl:
>
>
>            NCSU 38
>            UF   27
>
>Cheers,
>B
>

Sorry to tell you this, but Gator QB Shane Matthews' favorite stadium
is (you guessed it) the Gator bowl.  Based on that alone, let me be
the next to predict:


	     UF   52
	     NCSU 24

Andy


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From: tad@tad.b30.ingr.com (tad w stephens)
Subject: Re: Johnny Majors back at Pitt
Reply-To: tad@tad.b30.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:41:15 GMT

In article <526@blue.cis.pitt.edu>, hpb@hpb.cis.pitt.edu (Harry Bloomberg) writes:
|> 
|> 
|>    Are there any Tenn fans out there?  What do you think of Majors as a
|> coach and as a recruiter?  How's his health?
|> 

Majors, in my opinion, was a good coach and an excellent recruiter.  In fact, 
the biggest ding against him was the fact he didn't do more with the exceptional
talent he had (~20 players into the NFL in the last two drafts).  He was not
successful against Alabama (4-12) but no coach at Tennessee besides Neyland 
has done much better.  A big complaint against Johnny was Tennessee often 
had trouble with teams we should beat badly and many people blaimed him for not
preparing the players better.  He is a strict coach who some say has problems 
relating to the players.  His assistant coaches run through Tennessee like 
a revolving door, many like Larry Lacewell into the pros but quite a few to
lateral positions in other programs.  

Nevertheless, it is very hard to argue with his record.  Tennessee is the 
winningest team in the SEC over the last 5 years.  Year in, year out Majors' 
teams are competitive nationally.  The program is second to only Michigan in
attendance.  Among the pro scouts Tennessee is known as a factory for 
receivers and lineman.  Most programs around the country would give anything 
(some actually do - see Udub) to have the success Tennessee does.  I credit 
the coach for a large part of the program's success and hate to see him go.

In the end I think Major's only real flaw at Tennessee was not doing for his
alma mater what he did for Pitt - win a national championship.  Tennessee fans
are a fickle lot (see other's comments which are less than complimentary re:
Majors) and expected Johnny to lead UT to the promised land.  Failing in this
goal, losing a close friend, and telling a few alumni what every coach would
love to, Johnny simply wore out his welcome and was encouraged to move along.

I only hope those in power give Fulmer half a chance; anything less than 
perfection is a hard sell in the land of the Big Orange.


|> Harry Bloomberg
|> hpb@vms.cis.pitt.edu

Tad "here's to success at Pittsburgh" Stephens

Intergraph Corporation
Huntsville, Alabama
tad@tad.b30.ingr.com
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From: acdendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY)
Subject: Roger's Top 25--summary:Crummy Games
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 15 Dec 1992 18:32 EST  

The previous post was getting too long, so the Crummy Games of the Week are 
posted here.  This tells you something about who were the lowest ranked 
teams for most of the year, and which played the worst schedules (Div. I-A 
only).  It's interesting to note, though, that a lot of these are the same  
teams which appeared as victims to the Top 25 in Ugly Games, as listed in   
the previous post.

Team			Crummy Game Appearances
----			-----------------------
Cal St Fullerton		5
Eastern Michigan		3
Arkansas St			2
Nevada				2
Southwest Louisiana		2
Army				2
Bowling Green			2
Western Michigan		1
Arkansas			1
South Carolina			1
Northern Illinois		1
Kent				1
Colorado State			1
Texas-El Paso			1
Pacific				1
Ohio U				1
Navy				1
New Mexico State		1
UNLV				1

R Dendy
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Heisman Trophy
Date: 13 Dec 92 16:03:55 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


Hi,

I'm new to this newsgroup but I am utterly confused and would like some
guidance.  I'd like to know how some like Gino Testever.. I mean
Toretta could win what is arguably the most coveted award in college football?
Chalk one up for the publicity agents!

Oh and I pity the pro team that takes Toretta as their "franchise QB" in next
years draft...

satish nair
no cool .sig.
From: rcf@netlink.cts.com (Bob Forsythe)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Heisman
Date: 15 Dec 92 14:12:47 GMT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston) writes:

> In article <Bz8oFz.Kzx@encore.com> jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fa
> >News-Software: NN 6.4.16
> >
> >In <7u5PVB1w165w@netlink.cts.com> rcf@netlink.cts.com (Bob Forsythe) writes:
> >
> >|      I think the easiest way to view this is to consider...if you take 
> >| Faulk or Hearst and put them on Miami, does Miami become a better team; I 
> >| think the answer is obvious.
> >
> >Both are great, but with out good run blocking, and on a passing team like
> >Miami they both could be just average.  Since Miami is a one back offense
> >I would like to see you split their time and still highlight both.
> 
> I think he meant putting only one of them on Miami.  :)
> Btw, last I heard, SDSU was a passing team with a single 
> back.  

     Quite so; to the point, in fact, that if you don't pass at SDSU, you 
ain't going to get fans out to the games.  Ever since the days of Don 
Coryell it's been a passing school, and I doubt anything will ever change 
that.  On top of which, nobody seems to have noticed that State's 
offensive line lived up to their name and was more than a little 
offensive this year.  That's one of the main reasons I said Toretta 
wouldn't make much of an impact on SDSU's offense.

      I might add that a couple of people on ESPN last night were talking 
about Toretta being a 4th or 5th round draft choice.  I love it; they 
hype the guy like crazy, and now admit that he's not all that good a QB.  
They were saying that Bledsoe is definitely the man when it comes to QB's 
this year.  I'll agree that the Heisman isn't supposed to go to the most 
likely 1st round draft choice, but it certainly didn't go to the best 
college player or even the best college quarterback.  I could have lived 
with Hearst getting the award; wouldn't have agreed, but could have lived 
with it; but *Toretta*?  Geeze, that's one of the great jokes in the 
history of the award.  I can't think of a single winner who deserved it 
less.

-Bob

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett)
Subject: Re: FSU and Miami
Reply-To: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett)
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:27:26 GMT

News-Software: NN 6.4.16

In <1992Dec14.205811.5249@hou.amoco.com> zcjm0f@wwnv67.hou.amoco.com (CJohn Mace) writes:

| In fact, I feel that Nebraska is going to line up rather well with
| FSU.  They have an entire month to teach their DE's to pursue up the
| field, not inward and their LB's to stay at home to pin Ward in the
| pocket.  

I think Nebraska will line up rather good to.  Until they snap the ball.
FSU is going to blow by Nebraska that will still be on that line.   Ward
is a nightmare.  The defensive linemen can't catch Ward, even when you have
him he breaks out.

| 
| you heard it hear first...
| Nebraska 38
| FSU      35

FSU will have 65,000+ fans in the OB.   Nebraska will not be able to hear
the snap count.   FSU will force NU to pass.   


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From: kschudt@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Karl C Schudt)
Subject: Re: request: sophomores going to NFL
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:42:40 GMT

In article <cf=95ZW00Uh741TKV1@andrew.cmu.edu> "Susan R. Wagner" <sw39+@andrew.
cmu.edu> writes:
>Does anyone have a list or educated guess on the sophomores that are
>applying for entry into the NFL.  I have heard rumors that Westbrook of
>CU is planning on leaving school for the $$$$ of the NFL!  Any CU fans
>with more up to date, more accurate info on this subject?
>
>What do you all think about these youngsters entering the draft.  I'll
>state my position...I do not advocate leaving school as a sophomore to
>enter the NFL draft.  I don't think the NFL should condone such action.
>It isn't good for them, for college football, or most importantly, for
>the player!  These kids of maybe 19, are leaving an education to sit on
>the bench of the NFL.  Some people would love to have the educational
>opportunity that these guys have.  Just wondering what you all thought.
>
I believe the kid should do what is best for himself. Sitting on the bench in 
the NFL making 500,000$ is better than breaking your leg as a junior and never 
making a dime from football. You can always go back to school. You cant always 
play football. Case in point +++> Tripp Wellbourne [sp?] from Michigan was a 
wonderful safety, a cant miss prospect. He came back for his senior year and 
busted his knee (Im not sure o all the details, any michigan fans can correct 
me) and never played football again.
If Boeing had offered me a job making 200,000 dollars a year after my sophomore
year of college, I would have left too! You are asking some of these fellows 
(who may have poor families) to pass up millions!
Also, Chris Zorich never got a chance to get his mother out of the projects in 
Chicago, as she died hours after the orange bowl his senior year. A lot of kids
are thinking of their families.

Karl Schudt
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From: gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu (George B. Ross)
Subject: Re: Stadium Survey Complete
Reply-To: gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:32:26 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.132523.9427@mlb.semi.harris.com>  
dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com (David Head) writes:
> 
> Okay, there are some conspicuous absences from the college stadium list.
> Where are the N.C. State and Wake Forest fans?  How about the whole  
state
> of Michigan (Michigan and Michigan State)?  And with som much static  
from
> Texas A&M fans where are the stats for their stadium?

What about University of Kansas?

==  NeXT mail more than welcome  ======= current viewing avg  ==
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: stassen@alc.com (Chris Stassen)
Subject: CFPOOL: Bowl Games Entry
Organization: The Lion's Den, San Jose
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:09:10 GMT

Final Reminder -- if you haven't yet entered the CFPOOL for the bowl games,
the deadline is only four days away.  The reposted entry is included below:

===============================================================================

Notes:	Times listed below are Pacific.  A '+' in the time means a start
        on the half-hour (e.g., "8+a" means "8:30 A.M.").

	The final pool results will be posted in early January, probably
	on the fifth (plus or minus one day).

Game list for Bowl Games (18 Games), due by 12/17:
$
Bowling Green and Nevada		(12/18,   5p, ESPN, Silver Bowl      )
Brigham Young and Kansas		(12/25, 12+p,  ABC, Aloha Bowl       )
Washington State and Utah		(12/29,   5p, ESPN, Copper Bowl      )
Southern Cal and Fresno State		(12/29,   6p, RYCM, Freedom Bowl     )
Illinois and Hawaii			(12/30,   5p, ESPN, Holiday Bowl     )
Wake Forest and Oregon			(12/31,  9+a, ESPN, Independence Bowl)
Arizona and Baylor			(12/31, 11+a,  CBS, John Hancock Bowl)
North Carolina State and Florida	(12/31,   3p,  TBS, Gator Bowl       )
Air Force and Mississippi		(12/31,   5p, ESPN, Liberty Bowl     )
Boston College and Tennessee		(01/01,   8a, ESPN, Hall of Fame Bowl)
Texas A&M and Notre Dame		(01/01,  10a,  NBC, Cotton Bowl      )
Ohio State and Georgia			(01/01,  10a,  ABC, Citrus Bowl      )
Penn State and Stanford			(01/01, 10+a,  CBS, Blockbuster Bowl )
Colorado and Syracuse			(01/01,  1+p,  NBC, Fiesta Bowl      )
Washington and Michigan			(01/01,   2p,  ABC, Rose Bowl        )
Nebraska and Florida State		(01/01,   5p,  NBC, Orange Bowl      )
Alabama and Miami			(01/01,  5+p,  ABC, Sugar Bowl       )
North Carolina and Mississippi State	(01/02,   5p, ESPN, Peach Bowl       )

Reminders:	Don't forget to order your predictions by 'confidence.'
		A recap sheet is sent to *all entrants*.

===============================================================================
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston)
Subject: Re: Heisman
Organization: UMCC
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 05:28:09 GMT

In article <Bz8oFz.Kzx@encore.com> jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett) writes:
>News-Software: NN 6.4.16
>
>In <7u5PVB1w165w@netlink.cts.com> rcf@netlink.cts.com (Bob Forsythe) writes:
>
>|      I think the easiest way to view this is to consider...if you take 
>| Faulk or Hearst and put them on Miami, does Miami become a better team; I 
>| think the answer is obvious.
>
>Both are great, but with out good run blocking, and on a passing team like
>Miami they both could be just average.  Since Miami is a one back offense
>I would like to see you split their time and still highlight both.

I think he meant putting only one of them on Miami.  :)
Btw, last I heard, SDSU was a passing team with a single 
back.  
---
Steve
>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com (David Head)
Subject: Re: Kansas loses 2 players to AlohaBowl
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:01:22 GMT
Reply-To: dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com
Organization: Harris Corporation, Government Aerospace Systems Division

In article @byu.edu, zimms@gecko.ee.byu.edu (Stephen H. Zimmerman) writes:
>
>In article <1992Dec18.081024@mccall.com>, scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis) writes:
>>
>>Starting Off. lineman, Booth(Soph), and starting LB, H.Bailey(Sr),
>>won't be going to the Aloha Bowl.  They broke team rules and got
>>suspended.  Coach Mason wouldn't discussion any more than that, 
>>as per his policy.
>>--
>>Scott D. Davis <scott@mccall.com>       The McCall Pattern Company
>>(uucp: ...!widener!depot!mccall!scott)	615 McCall Road
>>(800)255-2762, in Kansas (913)776-4041  Manhattan, KS 66502, USA
>
>
>I really am sorry to hear that--but at least they weren't injured.  As you
>probably know, BYU will be starting their 4th string quarterback (lost the
>first 3 to injuries).  Maybe with this news we'll stand a chance :)
>

This brings up a scary thought for Florida State.  It hasn't happened this
season, but if Charlie Ward gets hurt then the next QB in line is true
freshman Danny Kannell.  Originally we would have gone with Kenny Felder but
he left FSU to pursue pro baseball, effectively leaving us without an
experienced backup QB.  Of course Kannell has not had all that much playing
time this year either, so the concern will carry over next year.  Stay
healthy Charlie!!!


>Merry Christmas (can you guess X-mas gift this byu fan wants?),
>
>Steve




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