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From: Larry Margolis <margoli@watson.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Finding Romantic Partners (longer then a midwest freight train)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:52:14 GMT
Distribution: na
Reply-To: margoli@watson.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: The Village Waterbed

In  <1992Aug18.151255.16163@cbfsb.cb.att.com>  jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
> In article <1992Aug17.175808.19182@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.ibm.com writes
> >In  <1992Aug17.124410.26700@cbfsb.cb.att.com>  jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j
> >>
> >>  Does she have a sister?
> >
> >As a matter of fact, three of them.  Two are married, but the youngest one
> >is not, and is Hot Stuff.  She just turned 21.
>
>  SOLD.

Actually, I might wait a few years for the niece.  Tall, thin, blonde hair
down to her waist, and she can tuck her ankles behind her neck.

*Now* how much would you pay?  :-)

Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein)
Subject: Re: Commitment--The C-word?
Keywords: commitment,marriage,reluctance
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:03:36 GMT

In article <thurlow.714023855@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:
>In <1992Aug16.232541.11992@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> jfb200@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (joseph.f.baugher) writes:
>
>>Why are men so much more reluctant than women to commit?
>
>Because they're thinking with the little head, not the big one?  :-)
>
>Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com

I think the age of the individual has something to do with it.  When
I was in my early to late 20's, I was involved but still fooled
around (I'm sure some will have a better word for it).  And the reason
was pretty much for the reason  Rob mentioned.  I was thinking with
the wrong head.  But now that I'm older (and wiser) I for one am 
definitely ready for a committment.  My problem is difficulty in finding
the woman I want to be committed to.  Women I've met lately should
literally be committed.  I have also had relationships where the woman
has backed out for fear of being hurt, as in their previous relationship.
So I can't say for certain that men are more reluctant than women.  But
when I find the right one, I will commit myself totally to her.  
Relationships are hard to come by (good ones), so, when I do find one,
I will appreciate it, and show that appreciation.  It's much better
to be in love and possibly loose it, than to never have loved (or be
loved).

Why do some women focus more on the reasons not to persue a relationship
rather than focus on the positive aspects (or possibilities) that could
be gained from a relationship?

				Steve
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Exactly what I mean by "unattached"...
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 23:27:00 GMT

In article <kiran.714230250@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:
>dbj@cs.washington.edu (Dave Johnson) writes about dating expenses:
> 
>>Bullshit.  Almost every women I've dated in the last ten years has
>>offered (if not insisted) on paying her share, either by splitting
> 
>Yes, but.  
>
>In this case, the but is the notion that perhaps they do not _want_ to
>pay, and hope their offer will be refused. 

Most of the women I've dated have offered to pay.  A small percentage
has wanted to, the rest were just willing to.

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: Larry Margolis <margoli@watson.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Exactly what I mean by "unattached"...
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 05:17:45 GMT
Reply-To: margoli@watson.IBM.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: The Village Waterbed

In  <1992Aug17.204101.25350@nuchat.sccsi.com>  kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown) writes:
> In article <1992Aug16.212239.16621@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.IBM.com writes
> >At least two of my long-term relationships started out as friendships.
>
> Interesting.  How well-developed were these friendships when the romance
> started?

One was fairly well developed; we were a group of friends at work who
regularly went out to lunch and happy hour.  The other one was less so,
since she was seeing someone else and I only got to see her through him,
and not that often.  A year later, they had broken up, and we got together.

Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Subject: Re: Commitment--The C-word?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:56:52 GMT

In article <LyBsPB3w165w@wildrose.infoserv.com> rkf@wildrose.infoserv.com (Ray Fink) writes:
>
>Seriously, I'm glad to see some women achieving economic power, and the
>financial status where they now face some of the same commitment risks 
>that men traditionally have had to face. 

Really.  Up until they let us females out from under our typewriters
and sewing machines, getting married was totally risk-free for us.  We had
everything to gain!  Especially those women in cushy Catholic-family
marriages that lasted FOREVER and were 'til death do they part.  Eh, so
what if the death was because her alcoholic husband ran a red light and
killed them both?  So what if he had one or two barfly mistresses and
gave his wife some kind of VD?  So what if he threw her down a flight
of stairs because she wanted to go back to school and maybe get a part-time
job?  So what if she had sex with him at his every whim because he could
divorce her on those grounds if she didn't?  At least she didn't have anything
to lose, right?  It was all the man's risk.  She was just kinda along for the
ride.  Breeze.

And if in a surge of courage she left him and raised the kids on her own,
so what if the children were viewed as social bastards and she a woman
of loose morals?  So what if the worship unit she was raised under
excommunicated her?  So what if no mamma wanted her son bringing home
a divorcee with kids?  So what about the social stigma - she'd deserve it,
the shameful hussy.  Nevermind that her husband beat the kids with a belt -
they probably deserved it, the brats.  Spare the rod, after all.
>
>Some of those risks really suck.

Oh please.  Tell us more.

-Nance
-- 
Nance Colucci  *^*^*^*^*^*    o__    *^*^*^*^*  |  Work that body!
att!ihlpk!colucci            _.>/               | Stay fit for life.
                            (_) \(_)
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: talking in stores (was: Re: Finding Romantic Partners (long))
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:48:52 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <thurlow.713892388@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:
|>--the only time I went out today was to a record store
|>(thought I'd pick up the Mary Black CD that John Fereira suggested)
|>and as soon as I managed to pick up a CD out of the bin, a woman in
|>the next aisle started talking to me about how much she liked that
|>album.

So did you listen to it yet?

|Well, if you're going to insist on doing something as brilliant and
|wonderful as buying Mary Black's music, you will probably continue
|to be deluged with approaches from people admiring your good taste.
|I know the problems I've had doing things like that :-)

About a week ago I was in the local Tower records and I had "the list" with
me.  I keep a list of CD's in my daytimer that has things that recommendations
made by other and some "must have" CD's.  Virtually everytime I bring it
into the store someone will ask me a question about a CD, thinking that I
work there.  The chances are pretty even that the person asking will be a
woman.  In any case, I was looking in a section in the store and wasn't finding
*anything* on "the list" and was standing next a woman that was looking in
the same section.  She had picked up a "Strunz and Farah" disc and I asked her
if she had heard that one yet (I hadn't).  She had heard one song and I told
her about the five other CD's by them that I had, and really liked.  She had
heard one of the earlier ones and didn't really care for it so I recommended 
a different one.   In any case it just shows how easy it is to strike up
a conversation with a MOTAS in that environment.  Many people talk about 
meeting someone in a grocery store.  It's even easier in a record store 
because there are so many "unknown" products that you can talk about with
someone else.  Even jazz albums. 
 
-- 
+============================================================================++
| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
+============================================================================++
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown)
Subject: Re: Finding Romantic Partners (long)
Organization: I can't see any in the immediate vicinity...
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 03:00:06 GMT

In article <kiran.714226449@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:
>shannah@netcom.com (Teri Miller) writes:
> 
>>Haven't you ever known someone who just seemed to
>>be a MOTAS magnet?  Someone who always seemed to have a date?  The person
>>who would offer to introduce you to folks?  Some of them are attractive,
>>yes, but how do you explain those who aren't, and get dates anyway?
> 
>Simple.  They're jerks.

Or, more precisely, they exhibit traits that indicate "success".

I wonder if people who exhibit these traits regard others who also exhibit
these traits as jerks...:-)

Anyway, Teri's statement is a bit of a contradiction.  The people she
refers to are *by definition* attractive (i.e., they tend to attract
MOTAS to themselves).

What she probably meant was that many of them aren't *physically*
attractive, but I've known for quite a while now that physical attraction,
while quite important to many men, is not particularly important to
many, if not most, women (that's not to say that it's completely
unimportant.  I'm sure it counts for something).

>(Well what did you expect me to say?)

Nothing less.  :-)

>Kiran Wagle                             <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
>P.O.Box 2083 Bloomington IN 47402-2083      (812) 336-7478 [8p-1a EST]


-- 
				Kevin Brown

			    kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com
			    kevin@taronga.taronga.com
From: mike.mcaulay@spacebbs.com (Mike Mcaulay)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Exactly what I mean b
Date: 14 Aug 92 04:58:00 GMT
Reply-To: mike.mcaulay@spacebbs.com (Mike Mcaulay)
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193

kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown) writes:

KB>>Stef                 After many years of study, scientists have determined
KB>>stef@apple.com       that dogs bark "just for the hell of it." -- Smithsoni

KB>Hahahaha!  I knew it!  Stupid dogs...

And why does Kevin Brown bark?

M.
---
 . SLMR 2.1 . It's the cutty-the-all-night-long-down dude!
From: taina@cs.Helsinki.FI (Juha Taina)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Boink Blues
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:05:27 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki, Finland

In <1992Aug12.153837.4529@muppet.bt.co.uk> bart@muppet.bt.co.uk (Tim) writes:

>And about half of the remainder are in Finland - too cold for me !

Yeah. Besides, who would want to see us Finns anyway?  Once you have
seen one Finn you have seen them all. :)

Juha
-- 
Juha Taina | taina@cs.helsinki.fi | Phone: +358-0-708-4247
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: rock@medch.b17a.ingr.com (Chris Hudson)
Subject: Re: Commitment--The C-word?
Reply-To: rock@medch.b17a.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:40:09 GMT

nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:

>That is freaking hysterical.  If I got married right now without any
>prior legal arrangement, I'd possibly be signing over half a house, 
>half my pension, half a car, my life insurance and future inheritance, 
>and a good number of my CDs.

Whoever I marry will have to sign a pre-nuptual agreement.  She can take
my house, my car, and all my money, but she DAMN well can't have my CDs
or my cat!

Chris Hudson
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: allisson@turing.toronto.edu (Allisson Roome)
Subject: Re: Net.Women
Keywords: good looking cute beautiful etc.
Organization: Some and growing
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:42:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.010730.18282@fid.morgan.com> sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:
>In article <1992Aug11.155758.26930@newstand.syr.edu>
>haroome@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Allisson Roome) writes:
>
>>I suppose I can vouch for Seth since I did have dinner with him and
>>all; however, since I did get put in the catagory of not.bad.looking
>>net.women by Seth I may be somewhat biased in my reaction.
>
>Is that the only reason you'd be biased?  I'm very disappointed.
>
That's not the only reason I'd be biased but it is a valid one and a
good public one.  As for dissapointments, well, we all have them now
and again, eh (I like this - I can add 'eh' to the ends of my
sentences now that I'm an electronic residient of Canada)?

Allisson (I'm a dangerous woman now -- single, not bad looking, sexy,
	  and I caught the bouquet at friends' wedding on Saturday)

-- 
allisson@turing.toronto.edu (new address) H. Allisson Roome
"Everything that you teach you are learning. Teach only love, and
From: taina@cs.Helsinki.FI (Juha Taina)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Exactly what I mean by "unattached"...
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:07:31 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki, Finland

In <1992Aug10.195307.3749@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
> 
>in <1992Aug7.231514.17590@nuchat.sccsi.com>
>    kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown) writes:
>] ...not to turn them down...???
>]
>] Doesn't this assume that they make the moves?  Sorry, but things like that
>] don't happen around here...
> 
>Well, yes, but that happens all the time (at least in places other than
>Finland); you're not in Finland, are you?
> 
>Trygve

It happens in Finland too.  Still, it's true that a typical Finn is
bad at making the first move.  This is true to both males and females.
I was really surprised in Tennessee when total strangers greeted me.
It would never happen in Finland.  Perhaps it's our language.  What
else could be expected from people who have to say Kylla when they
mean yes and Ei when they mean no. :)

Juha
-- 
Juha Taina | taina@cs.helsinki.fi | Phone: +358-0-708-4247
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jerpseth@sd.cadence.com (James Jerpseth)
Subject: Questions about Singles Clubs
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, San Diego Center
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:05:43 GMT


Fellow Single Readers of this soc.singles newsgroup,


A freind of mine suggested that I check out some of the 
singles clubs here in San Diego (I don't belong to a gym or go to 
bars, which are the "normal" singles hangouts in San Diego) to
meet eligible single women. I have several questions:

-- Has anyone else tried these type of clubs?
   (I'd be interested in hearing about experiences good or bad --
    what to do and what to avoid)

-- What is the prevelant attitude at these clubs?
   I'm not interested in bed-hopping but am seeking
    a women not afraid of commitment and a serious relationship
    (almost impossible these days).

-- What is the best way to begin with these clubs?
   (go alone, go with a friend, go to business meeting first,????)

-- What is the general age range of these clubs and the mix of
   men to women?

Either post to this group or E-mail me directly (I'll gladly post
  a condensed version of all replies I get by E-mail)

James aka jerpseth@sd.cadence.com

-- 
!  SIN BOLDLY (that God's grace may be bolder still) -- Martin Luther
!
! "The views expressed are neither those of Cadence or its Managment
!   (probably since I'm not certain they know I exist).
From: jiang@cs.arizona.edu (Howard)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Exactly what I mean by "unattached"...
Summary: Peeling the Covers of Ambiguity (Was Re: Married Men and Single Women)
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:11:20 GMT

In article <9208120123.AA05443@regal.cisco.com>, mlb@CISCO.COM (Marcia Bednarcyk) writes:
> step at a time, like unwrapping a gift (or peeling an onion, if you like).
> Am I the only one who delights in the slow unfolding of a relationship, of 
> the maybes and possibles that characterize the start of one? If everything
> is right there, nothing withheld, where are the surprises of getting to know
> the object of one's affections?
> 
> Marcia Bednarcyk                                        ADDRESS: mlb@cisco.com
> "Sweaty Snugglebunnies."
> "... the meaning of life is to be happy, try not to hurt people, and hope
> you fall in love."

The fact that if you find something really, REALLY nasty about the other person,
you will want to get the hell out of that relationship, no matter what the cost.
Personally, I don't think manipulating your own mind for that is worth anything.
That's probably why Americans have the highest divorce rate for any nation on
this planet. They like all the intrugue and mystique, but when they wake up a
year or two later, they think "Holy Hellish! Is she really like THAT!?!?!?!".

Some are not that extreme, but most end in divorce anyways.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: FINNS - Nice description, Juha!
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 21:48:49 GMT

In article <j29mf=r.shannah@netcom.com> shannah@netcom.com (Teri Miller) writes:
>In article <thurlow.714023379@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:
>>
>> - hot tubs are only good for screwing (ask any
>>Californian). 
>>
>Rob, you'll have to tell me your secret.  I have never managed to
>screw in a hot tub, and not for lack of trying.  Something truly
>essential seems to get lost every time.  Care to enlighten me as
>to your technique?

Well, I don't know what Bob's techniques are, but I've never had a 
problem--all the water makes it a little more difficult to provide
as intense stimulation as one otherwise might (at least without
dumping most of the water out of the tub), but there are plenty of
other advantages (adjustable water jets, for instance) that help
make up for the longer time it takes.  (One problem, though, is 
that sometimes one partner may get overheated and need to cool off;
this is best accomplished by the hotter partner sitting on the edge 
of the hot tub while the other partner remains within and sees what
can be done with the first partner's anatomical areas that are still
in range.)

Trygve
From: mike.mcaulay@spacebbs.com (Mike Mcaulay)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Sex With Madonna (was Re:
Date: 14 Aug 92 04:58:00 GMT
Reply-To: mike.mcaulay@spacebbs.com (Mike Mcaulay)
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193

blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:

RO>Subject: Sex With Madonna (was Re: DESCRIBE YOUR PERFECT MATE PLEASE)

RO>Dunno if I would want to have sex with Madonna, but I sure as hell think
RO>that lunch with her would be an interesting experience. I just the feeling
RO>that she and I would get along decently. It would be amusing.

Re: sex w/ Madonna:  First, she's gotta lose the pointy metal bra.
Second, the flow of social reality bends in the vicinity of a star just
like light traversing a gravitational field.  Hence, it would probably
help to be on a lot of drugs when doing her, just to sort of make
everything wrap around to normal.

M.
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein)
Subject: Re: little "e"
Keywords: ??????
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 23:37:58 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.232225.19975@cbfsb.cb.att.com> sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein) writes:
>        Is she still on the net ???????????????????????
>
>
>
>				Steve


Looks like I found her.  Fate or an act of God ??????????????

					Steve
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius)
Subject: Re: Finding Romantic Partners (long)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 03:42:32 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

In article <1992Aug17.204848.25516@nuchat.sccsi.com> kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown) writes:
>
>As I read this newsgroup and participate in it, I get an increasing sense
>of the importance of acting.
>
>Do you think acting is an important enough skill that it would be worth
>going to acting school?

Thing is, truly *great* acting comes from the heart.  The actor tries to
find some point of congruence between themselves and the character
they're playing, and build from there.  I personally don't think that
acting has all that much to do with finding relationships.

One thing I did was to promise myself that I wouldn't worry about not
finding someone until I was 30.  Didn't get rid of the loneliness, mind
you, but it took the edge off a lot of the desperation I occasionally
felt.  Something you haven't told us -- and you don't need to, but you
should think about it -- is exactly what you're looking to get out of a
relationship.

I was looking, more than anything else, for lots of physical affection.
Not sex, just hugs and backrubs and cuddling.  So, I made a habit of
"forcing" myself on women, offering them massages -- with one basic
ground rule: no overt sexual requests.  Surprisingly enough (and it was
to me at the time), very few women objected to my attentions.

The initial overtures are virtually identical between friendship and
romance, so you might try a similar technique: attempt to engage *lots*
of women in an activity that you enjoy.  Your interest will show, and
make you appear to be more self-confident -- without acting, remember?
Eventually, you'll manage to hook up with someone.  Sounds kind of
stupid, in a way, relying so much on chance, but it's really the only
game in town.

I know that you're going to complain about the piss-poor odds on this
kind of approach, but here's the kicker: once you've identified an
activity as your target, it shouldn't be too difficult to find locations
with a higher-than-average concentration of females interested in that
activity.
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

"I 'got a life'.  Now what?"
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From: blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.couples,soc.men,soc.women,soc.motss
Subject: Re: BOINK! BOINK! BALLOONBOINK IN ALBUQUERQUE!
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:29:25 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <0p0mnza@lynx.unm.edu> bevans@carina.unm.edu (Mathemagician) writes:
>In article <92@bbx.basis.com> scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker) writes:
>>Absolutely.  In 13 years I've only *once* went down to the balloon
>>field during the mass ascension.  Other than some unique photo ops
>>I find that observing from other parts of the city within a couple
>>miles every bit as breath taking.  Hell, I've been known to stay
>>up on the west mesa (where I live) and watch from there.
>Personally, I wouldn't go down to the field for the mass ascension
>unless I had some direct reason to be there.

For first time goers, roaming the field is an experience worth having.
By the next day (sunday), we'll probably just observe from afar :)
r.
ps- COME TO THE BALLOONBOINK- OCTOBER 2-4, ALBUQUERQUE, NM. WRITE TO THIS
ACCOUNT FOR DETAILS! FOOD! FUN! BALLOONS! NET-BAND! AND, OF COURSE, BANANAS,
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