From: ratinox@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu (Stainless Steel Rat)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Mistake at beginning of T2
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:18:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: splinter.RATINOX.92Apr8151825
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Reply-To: ratinox@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu (Rich Pieri)
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In-reply-to: emeu08@castle.ed.ac.uk's message of 8 Apr 92 14:17:11 GMT
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>>>>> On 8 Apr 92 14:17:11 GMT, emeu08@castle.ed.ac.uk (ME3 Student) said:

>>	I have a quick question.  Was the T1000 organic?  If not, how  
>>could he be temporally diplaced.  I understood that the reason why no  
>>weapons or clothes could be brought back from the future was that no  
>>non-living stuff can be displaced (unless it was wrapped in living  
>>tissue).  However, the T1000 seemed to be made entirely of liquid metal  
>>(that is, no living tissue).  Is there an explanation for this apparent  
>>discrepancy?
>>

emeu08> It wasnt liquid metal, it was some material called a 'poly-alloy'
emeu08> or something like that, which could have any number of properties
emeu08> as the writers so desired.

John Connor: ``So this other guy. He's a terminator, too, right, like you?''
T-800: ``Not like me. A T-1000. Advanced prototype. A mimetic polyalloy.''
JC: ``What's that mean?''
T-800: ``Liquid metal.''
JC: ``Radical.''

emeu08> Anyway I always thought that it was a different type of time
emeu08> machine that was used in the second film.

Nope. Exact same machine. There is only one of them.

emeu08> In the first film Rees says that the plan was to destroy the
emeu08> machine after he went through, so that nobody else could come
emeu08> through. I assumed that this plan was followed through.

Once Reese was sent through, Connor's techs discovered the traces of two
terminators, one in 1984, the other in 1991+ (or whenever T2 takes place).
Connor's techs reprogrammed the third terminator to protect himself in the
1990's and sent it back, too.

emeu08> In the second film I thought that the machine used must have been
emeu08> different when I first saw it. It seemed to displace a whole
emeu08> spherical area rather than just a single body. It seems that this
emeu08> new machine was probably more advanced and didn't have the same
emeu08> restrictions.

Nope. Same machine. There is only the one built by Skynet.

emeu08> This still left me with one question though. If the above was the
emeu08> case, why didn't either of the terminators come through with
emeu08> weapons?

First, a terminator needs no weapons--it *is* a weapon. Second, future tech
transferrals would be minimized to prevent paradox. Third, Reese wasn't
given weapons due to a lack of understanding on the part of Connor's techs
about the transferral device.

Also, see my previous post about the transferral device.

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