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From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Rude behavior on this group.
Date: 18 Dec 1992 15:19:39 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Distribution: world,local
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: gondolin.pubs.stratus.com

In article <1992Dec17.181301.28130@mksol.dseg.ti.com>  
mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
> Assuming that it's what you want, of course.  And it's still not
> 'free'.  It gets passed through and spread around over the people  
who
> DO want it and the peopel who DON'T want it.

The other point, though, that you are missing is that it may
be far cheaper to put Windows on all machines (since most
customers do want it, and it has become a major selling point)
than to put it on some machines and not on others.  But this
is true of many things.  What if I don't want a keypad on my
keyboard. Presumably, they can build a slightly cheaper keyboard
without the number pad.  However, any cost advantage here is
mitigated by the need to have machines with two different
types of keyboards.  Or, I don't want a lighter in my car. But
it is cheaper for the auto manufacturers to put them in all
cars (even though it costs something per car) than to worry about
them as a separately-purchasable feature.

--
Jim Mann            
Stratus Computer   jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
From: ekl@kvamdata.no (Eirik Lygre)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: os/2 PDK cd-rom license
Date: 14 Dec 92 13:25:23 GMT
Organization: Kvam data as

In article <1992Dec13.205433.20551@fcom.cc.utah.edu> brian@jaguar.cs.utah.edu (Brian Sturgill) writes:
>
>So, this means that the new versions expire when the release version comes
>out?
>If so, then there's no real difference.  The author of the post that
>started this thread believe that IBM was giving him full use of about
> $2,000 worth of software for $15.  This clearly isn't so?

To me there is a difference -- if I can live with the beta version. For
example, there are no indications that I cannot run the beta included
with the October cd-rom, for as long as I want.

For a commercial setting, that may not be acceptible. In those settings,
where beta software is banned, you need to buy the $2000 worth of software.

>Brian
>-- 
>C. Brian Sturgill                          NeXTStep 486 is for _YOU_!!!!
>University of Utah                    Microsoft needs competition, but I want
>Center for Software Science          to be one of the many running Windows NT!
>brian@cs.utah.edu; CIS: 70363,1373    :-) :-) :-)  NT SDK: $69; (800) 227-4679

Eirik

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From: tracer@majestix.cs.uoregon.edu (Roger M. Wilcox)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Windows Sims! (was Re: Gates Interview - 640k Limit)
Date: 21 Dec 92 06:49:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Dec21.064934.10259
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.

In article <1992Dec19.060510.27090@runx.oz.au> eau@runx.oz.au (Eric Ulevik - Equity Systems Ltd) writes:
>
>All I want now is a new version of Flight Simulator which
>runs under Windows! I want the extra resolution and the better
>user interface for dialogs etc.

Hoo boy, if the guys back at Sierra/Dynamix could hear you!

It does seem like a more intuitive approach to have a "Carburetor Heat" icon
on the screen that you can click on to turn Carb Heat on and off, rather
than having to haul out the game's quick reference card or (gasp!) manual
to look up the fact that the "H" key is used to toggle the carb heat setting.
(In fact, I'm surprised that Microsoft's own version of Sublogic's Flight
Simulator (version 4.0) only supported the mouse in the role of pull-down
menus!  Why not drag on the rudder-bar to yaw the plane?)

-- 
Roger *M.* Wilcox   (aka Jeff Boeing)
tracer@majestix.cs.uoregon.edu
Aleph null bottles of beer on the wall, aleph null bottles of beer, ...
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: brian@jaguar.cs.utah.edu (Brian Sturgill)
Subject: Early Christmas Present for OS/2 Fans.
Originator: brian@jaguar.cs.utah.edu
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 00:47:12 GMT


Due to the need to get a major release of the project I work on out before
I leave for the holidays, I regret to say I'm unsubscribing to
comp.os.os2.advocacy until after the first of the year.  I'll still keep
an eye on c.o.ms-w.advocacy, but there won't be any Tidbits posting for
a while.

To those rabid OS/2 fans that claim I've no right to be posting NT
information in comp.os.os2.advocacy, I've told Santa to bring you a
Windows 3.1 based multi-media dictionary so that you can look up the
word "advocacy".  (I originally asked him to bring you an OS/2 PM
version, but he nearly died from "Ho Ho Ho-ing". :-))
I also asked him to bring you:
[
	To be filled in by those same people, as they are better at
	making up bad things for me to have "said" than I am.
]

To those more rational OS/2 fans and all Windows fans, I bid farewell for
a while and Merry Christmas.

Brian

P.S.
(I look forward to getting back and reading the c.o.o.a posts that say I
tried to kill Santa Claus. :-))
-- 
C. Brian Sturgill                          NeXTStep 486 is for _YOU_!!!!
University of Utah                    Microsoft needs competition, but I want
Center for Software Science          to be one of the many running Windows NT!
brian@cs.utah.edu; CIS: 70363,1373    :-) :-) :-)  NT SDK: $69; (800) 227-4679
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: "Windoze" slow? Naah...Re: pc and mac: was RE: 486 and mac benchmarks
Date: 18 Dec 1992 15:21:39 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: gondolin.pubs.stratus.com

In article <BzF3Mq.BCv@news.cso.uiuc.edu> walk@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu  
(Todd Walk) writes:
> Currently Macs are selling at a ratio of 1:4 to PCs.
> For low-end Macs, you no longer pay a premium.
> (You still definitely do on mid to high end Macs.)
> 

No, for low-end Macs you still DO pay a premium. It is a much
smaller premium than it was 2 years ago (and for many people
it is now small enough that they say "yeah, I'll pay a couple
of hundred extra and get a Mac") but it is a premium none the less.

--
Jim Mann            
Stratus Computer   jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com  

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
From: discar@nosc.mil (Joe Discar)
Subject: Re: Rude behavior on this group.
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:14:03 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.170011.23616@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> rkl@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (kevin.laux) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.215923.4494@mksol.dseg.ti.com>, mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>
>> Based on ZERO evidence that this happens, and the complaints of a lot
>> of people who don't WANT the frigging software.  Once again, a
>> somewhat less than realistic example.
>> 
>> In a highly competitive market, you don't have the kind of profit
>> margin to eat those kinds of costs.  Take that 20% profit down to
>> around 2%-5% and see what your numbers do.
>> 
>> >Cost is only one factor that a business considers when setting a 
>> >selling price. Other factors such as price/demand, competition, etc. 
>> >are often as important or more important.
>> 
>> You're assuming a non-competitive market that allows large initial
>> profit margins.  Do you really think that that's the kind of market
>> that PC cloners are looking at?
>
>	ZERO evidence?  What you have here is an opinion.  (And opinions
>are what you have when you don't have the facts.  (If you had the facts, you
>wouldn't need an opinion.))
>
>	Complaints of a lot of people?  Who said so?  And how does HE know?
>
>	My gripe is that the example was illustrative of the Law of Diminishing
>Marginal Returns, a very basic economic principle.  You seem to be saying that
>this is no longer applicable to the marketplace.

Law?!  You obviously haven't read Fred.EXE's posts yet.  He doesn't care 
what textbooks, dictionaries, papers, etc. say--HIS opinion is what
counts.  Since Fred thinks that Business are only selling bundled
Windows+DOS with their systems to spite the consumer (not because it's 
profitable)--then it MUST be so.  To hell with supply and demand.

>
>	Btw, which profit margin are we talking about?  Gross or net?  From
>the example, it's gross.  The 2-5% range would be a good figure for net.  And
>net would include those other factors mentioned.
>

My opinions
Joe.
From: s914534@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU (UT)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: One for the Windows gurus
Date: 14 Dec 1992 10:28:55 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au

Ok - here's one for all you gurus out there:

How do I install a display driver WITHOUT using setup?

The reason I ask is because my setup simply refuses to do the job.
I have a trident 640*480*256 color driver that I want to install.
I run setup.
I select the driver from my hard disk
I accept the 'above configurations'
I am prompted to insert windows disk x
The file required is not on windows disk x
or
The file exists on a different disk
or 
The file does not exist at all (eg some of the fonts) (on no disk)
or
The file is on the particular disk I have inserted but refuses to be copied
(eg this problem occurs with vgacolor.2gr - I put in the disk with vgacolor.2g_
 but all I get is 'insert the disk where vgacolor.2gr can be found)

What can I do??

	Ut
From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Rude behavior on this group.
Date: 15 Dec 1992 14:59:47 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Distribution: world,local
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: gondolin.pubs.stratus.com

In article <1992Dec14.210316.28405@microsoft.com> richs@microsoft.com  
(Rick Schaut) writes:
> There's another thing to consider.  I think you'll find that the  
price
> differential between systems without Windows and systems with  
Windows is
> greater than the per-machine cost of the Windows license.  If it  
weren't,
> vendors wouldn't be willing to go through the extra hassle of  
installing
> Windows on their systems, because they (the vendors) could make the  
same
> profits without bothering with Windows at all.

I read that paragraph twice, and am still not quite sure what
you are saying?  Are you saying that all computer manufacturers
that bundle Windows are also making a profit on the 
price differential of adding Windows to the machine?  (That
is, if Windows costs $20 per machine, they are charging
$30 more per machine with Windows?)

I'm not convinced this is the case.  Having Windows on the
machine sells more machines.  They could, in fact, break even
or even lose a bit on the differential, but make up for it
by selling more machines. Certainly my next PC (which I'll
probably buy in the next year) will come with Windows bundled
on it. It is a selling point for me and for others.

--
Jim Mann            
Stratus Computer   jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com  

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
From: hausutzu@chamber.in-berlin.de (Utz-Uwe Haus)
Subject: Re: Trident ftp address wanted
Organization: Zombie's Burial Chamber, Berlin, West Germany.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:02:58 GMT

s914534@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Ut) writes:

>Does anyone know where trident puts its latest updates? In particular I am
>after OEMSETUP.INF for windows 3.1 - I have the file for 3.0 and its causing
>problems with my windows disks.

>	Ut

----------------------

Try the TRIDENT-BBS in the US : +1 (415) 691-1016! They have all the updates 
you can wish for (even WP51). It's free, but don't stay in there too long if
its long distance 8-)))

Hope it helps

Utz-Uwe Haus
Berlin/Germany
hausutzu@chamber.in-berlin.de
 
...void main() { I C; I!C ?; (I C++) ? OOP:!OOP; }
 
 

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
From: tfj@apusapus.demon.co.uk (Trevor Jenkins)
Subject: Windows easy to use!
Distribution: world
Organization: Job hunters use Parachute
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:43:38 +0000

I was watching my son earlier today. He switched on the PC but that's easy
it has a BIG red switch. Then he typed win to start Windows. With some
adept hand movements on the mouse he was into his favourite game. He's
obviously been watching the rest of the family at play and learnt what to
do! Later on I saw him do the same thing a couple more times.

This may seem pretty ordinary until you know that this boy cannot read.
He's only 2 and a half. He doesn't even know his letters!

Regards, Trevor.

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134 Frankland Rd, Croxley Green, Rickmansworth, WD3 3AU, England
email: tfj@apusapus.demon.co.uk                               radio: G6AJG  
phone: +44 (0)923 776436
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: login on computer at "ftp.cica.indiana.edu"?
From: dogger@netlink.cts.com (Dan Aeling)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 22:21:51 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

Any help on the following problem is greatly appreciated:
I have recently tried to use telnet to login to the computer
at "ftp.cica.indiana.edu" with no success.  I can get to the
point where the remote computer prompts me to "login" and enter
a "password".  This is where I have failed to make further progress.
I have tried to login as "guest", "user", and others but have
not been successful.

Does anyone know how I can log onto the subject computer as 
a guest???  I would like to be able to access a printer driver I
know is available on this computer.

Thanks for any help....
Dan

--                    
INTERNET:  dogger@netlink.cts.com (Dan Aeling)
UUCP:   ...!ryptyde!netlink!dogger
NetLink Online Communications * Public Access in San Diego, CA (619) 453-1115
From: Dave.Beaujean@davespc.mi.org (Dave Beaujean)
Sender: FredGate@davespc.mi.org
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: linking a macro to an icon
Distribution: world
Date: 12 Dec 92 15:08:00 EST

Hi All!

Does anyone know of a way to link a macro with an icon,
so when you double click on the icon, it first runs a macro,
then runs the application? Anyone know how to do this another way?
Any help will be greatly appreciated!!!

Dave


Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: rryan@panix.com (Rob Ryan)
Subject: Re: login on computer at "ftp.cica.indiana.edu"?
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 16:27:28 GMT
Organization: Panix, NYC

In <5uoNVB3w165w@netlink.cts.com> dogger@netlink.cts.com (Dan Aeling) writes:

>Any help on the following problem is greatly appreciated:
>I have recently tried to use telnet to login to the computer
>at "ftp.cica.indiana.edu" with no success.  I can get to the
>point where the remote computer prompts me to "login" and enter
>a "password".  This is where I have failed to make further progress.
>I have tried to login as "guest", "user", and others but have
>not been successful.

Use ftp, not telnet.  And try a userid of "anonymous" and use your
email address as a password.

-- 
 Rob Ryan
    rryan@panix.com
From: mcglob@usissc.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Brian.McGloin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft's SMARTDRV worthwhile.
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:14:30 GMT
Reply-To: mcglob@usissc.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Brian.McGloin)
Organization: DaytonOH.NCR.COM

In article <1g30a7INNl3o@transfer.stratus.com$ jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com writes:
$In article <2B23E59E.4127@deneva.sdd.trw.com$  
$reimert@santacruz.etdesg.trw.com (Scott P. Reimert) writes:
$$ 
$$ Yes, SMARTDRV actually improves Windoze speed, when compared to no  
$cache at all.
$$ However, there are after-market packages that are *dramatically*  
$better than 
$$ the ill-named SMARTDRV. I have been using Super PCKwik for several  
$years now,
$$ and usually have hit rates in the 90% area. There are other  
$differences as well,
$$ but I don't want to get (to far) off the question.
$$ 
$
$Are you talking about the smartdrv that comes with Windows 3.1?
$I agree that older version of smartdrv weren't very good, but
$the new version is pretty comprable to most other disk 
$caches out there. Yeah, I think some of the others are slightly
$faster, but the difference is not all that noticable at this
$point (and certainly not worth the cost of buying a disk cache).
$
$--
$Jim Mann            
$Stratus Computer   jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com  

I agree! The new smartdrv is muchh faster.  I set the memory options to
512 512 and get a hit rate of 83%.  If I leave the memory options off, smartdrv
defaults to 2048 2048 on my 486sx/25 w/8MB memory. I then get a hit rate of 86%.
The extra 1.5 MB of memory isn't worth the extra 3% hit rate.

Good luck!

-- 
Brian T. McGloin	| Lift your glasses, friend, with mine 
NCR Corp.		| And raise your hand with me 
USG/ISS-OLS		| I'm England stole, I'm Ireland spent 
Miamisburg, OH 45342	| I'm an outlawed rapparee
From: 1718@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Frankl Hockett)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Help needed with wallpaper
Date: 14 Dec 1992 15:40:16 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

Could someone please tell how to get win31 to use pcx files as
wallpaper instead of bmp, I've try everything I know and I just
can't find the way. Please let me know , would you??
		Thanks,
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,ruuinf.misc
From: sci30139@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN CHYE HEE)
Subject: Re: need windows drivers for Trident 8900b a.s.a.p.
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:40:50 GMT

Eelco van Tilborg (eaatilbo@cs.ruu.nl) wrote:
: 
: I'm looking for windows-drivers for my Trident T8900b videocard. I have
: drivers for all resolutions, but only in 16 colors. I need the drivers for all
: 256-color modes. Please could anyone help me with this, I need them soon!
: 
: Eelco van Tilborg
: Email: eaatilbo@cs.ruu.nl
: 

--
Try looking for them at cica.cica.indiana.edu or wuarchive.wustl.edu
They are called tvgaw31a.zip and tvgaw31b.zip.

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			Gilbert Tan Chye Hee
		      sci30139@nusunix1.nus.sg



Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: magne@ddm3.ddm.st.statoil.no (Magne Maehre)
Subject: Re: Scanjet IIC problem with Windows?
Keywords: scanners
Reply-To: magne@ddm3.ddm.st.statoil.no (Magne Maehre)
Organization: Statoil, Norway
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 08:35:56 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.151802.23355@ppoc.com>,
jlorimer@smaug.dvr.ppoc.com (John D. Lorimer (PPOC systems
administrator)) writes:
> 
> 
> 
> We just recieved a Scanjet IIC with two windows packages and no
specific drivers
> and the scsi interface card and adf files for installation on a PS/2 model 70
> B21.  The DOS driver that load in the config.sys auto recognizes the
scanjet but
> none of the test programs that came with the system will talk to the scanner
> (i.e. they fail) has anyone been able to set one up under windows and
especially
> a PS/2 and if any modifications had to be done in the system.ini file
to make it
> work.  Thanks in advance.  
> John D. Lorimer  Networked Systems Administrator
> Plains Petroleum Operating Co.


I installed a Scanjet IIC a couple of months ago on a 486.  I had a few
problems
with one of the programs that came with it (it wouldnt show any color on a
monitor with less than 256 colors).  It installed perfectly, with no problems
at all.  Please email me if you think I can help...
 
> -- 
> John D. Lorimer
> Geoscience Systems Administrator
> Plains Petroleum Operating Co.
> 

Magne Maehre
Systems Administrator
Statoil DDM, Norway
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: wolff@inf.fu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolff)
Subject: djfont laserjet->deskjet converter; where is it?
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:59:14 GMT

Where can I find the program 'djfont.zip' which used to reside on 
the mims-iris font archive which doesn't exist any more?

I am hoping to be able to create softfonts with it from the laserjet 
softfonts which can be generated from type-1 fonts, in order to reduce 
printing time for my most frequently used fonts.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: hausutzu@chamber.in-berlin.de (Utz-Uwe Haus)
Subject: Re: Trident 8900 SVGA drivers for 3.1
Organization: Zombie's Burial Chamber, Berlin, West Germany.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:19:33 GMT

cooke_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:

>Like others I am in need of a _working_ set of Trident drivers for 3.1.

>I found some drivers via Archie, but they are Beta releases and after they are
>installed, Windows comes back with:

>"A device file specified in the system.ini is corrupted. It may be needed to
>run windows in 386 enhanced mode....". After pressing the enter key you get:

>"Invalid VxD dynamic link call to device number 000A, service 0007. Your
>Windows configuration is invalid."

>The file is TRDWIN31.ZIP, dated 15 march 92.

>ANY ideas on where I can obtain a working set of drivers??????????

>Thanks........................  

>-------------------------

>Russell Cooke
>COOKE_R@KOSMOS.WCC.GOVT.NZ

>The text in this article is my opinion only.........

-------------------------------------

Did you try the TRIDENT-BBS at +1 (415) 691-1016? (It's free, but be aware
of your telephone-bill if you call long-distance O:-))))

Hope it helps

Utz-Uwe Haus
Berlin/Germany
hausutzu@chamber.in-berlin.de
From: dfh@dwroll.att.com (D461-David_F_Haertig(Dave)83040)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft's SMARTDRV worthwhile.
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:32:39 GMT
Reply-To: dfh@dwroll.att.com
Originator: dfh@dwroll

From article <1992Dec15.055246.21191@netcom.com>, by timbol@netcom.com (Mike Timbol):
> In article <22861@drutx.ATT.COM> dfh@dwroll.att.com writes:
> ....
>>I had to keep referring to my autoexec.bat to see if Smartdrv was
>>running or not.  This was a surprize to me, so I specifically
>>tried loading large-ish Excel spreadsheets with and without
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Smartdrv since I figured this would generate a bit of disk
>>access.  Any differences were not evident to me.

> My apologies if you already know this, but this would only make a
> difference the *second* or later time that you do it.

Of course I knew this, I was just testing you ....  ;-)

I guess my original post is what results when the brain is writing
to the null pointer with all interrupts trapped.  I have now reset
my interrupts, and I will try to core dump in my own private directory
rather than a public forum from now on.

"Nothing can ever be idiot-proof, because us idiots are too damn ingenious!"

Thanks for pointing out my error,
Dave Haertig
haertig@att.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: claebaur@shell.portal.com (Tony S Annese)
Subject: Mouse Driver for Mighty Keyboard
Followup-To: sender 
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 22:01:05 GMT

I have a Mighty Keyboard with a built in trackball. Does anyone have or know
an FTP site where I can get a driver for this trackball? It works most of the
time with the microsoft driver for Windows but locks up the trakball alot. I
have to reload windows to get it to work again. Would be nice to get this 
trakball working so that I know my $100 for the keyboard wasnt a waste.
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