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From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: Skyclad... info needed!
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 20:01:40 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Dec13.160429.20808@cs.nott.ac.uk>, rjt@cs.nott.ac.uk (Richard Thomas) writes:
> Skyclad have to be just about the most original metal band since Celtic 
> Frost. They play thrash metal but with a violinist called Fritha. The band
> was formed by ex Sabbat vocalist Martin Walkyier. The thing about him is that 
> he looks and sings just like Ozzy Osbourne; who knows... Skyclad, the next
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Black Sabbath?

Ah, yes. And James Hetfield sings just like Debbie Gibson. Who knows...
Metallica, the next teeny-bopper?

Oops, it's too late, that's happened already :)  Anyway, let's take a look
at the similarities. Ozzy Osbourne and Martin Walkyier both:

1. Sing.
2. Can use amplification.
3. Sell records.

'Nuff said? Good! Remember:  Sabbath sucks, Sabbat rules! Watch out for that
unnecessary 'h', boys 'n girls, cause Walkyier is wild!

--Semhaza
From: tfpayn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Joe Satriani: Letterman, last night.
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:11:40 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <92345.104855DMALZAHN@HARPERVM.BITNET>, Don Malzahn <DMALZAHN@HARPERVM.BITNET> writes:
> Anybody see Joe last night? During the opening theme I heard they had
> this guitarist guitar turned up more than usual. I said to myself, "SELF,
> I GOTTA find out who this guitarist is!". Was a pleasant surprise to learn
> it was Joe. I have several CDs of his and was hoping on seeing him in Chicago
> this month, but couldn't get anyone to go with me. Guess I don't know the right
> kind of people, eh?

		Anything, ANYTHING on tour dates???????

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From: venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Skyclad... info needed!
Date: 18 Dec 92 20:15:13 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <1992Dec15.235155.2557@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>>>'Nuff said? Good! Remember:  Sabbath sucks, Sabbat rules! Watch out for that
>>>unnecessary 'h', boys 'n girls, cause Walkyier is wild!
>>>
>>>--Semhaza
>>
>>Sabbath sucks? Suck my motherfucking dick, asshole!
>>
>>Sabbath's been around for more than 20 years and you'll see what
>>ppl will say about SABBAT even in 5 years!
>>
>>Duh!
>>
>Jeez, that's the second time you've insulted one of my friends on this net.

I bet you'll loose count how many times I have INSULTED (if it hurts).

>So she doesn't like Black Sabbath. Neither do a lot of people. Except for Dio's   ^^^

It's even she?

>stuff I don't like 'em either. But I don't like blues, so that's my thing
>against them. Just because a bands' been around 20 years doesn't mean everyone
>has to like them. 

Not EVERYONE has to like them.The point is that the band is LEGEND despite they
put sometmes shitty stuff. And if you or someone else doesn't like it,
that does't mean it sucks.In fact, if there weren't sabbath, there would't be
metal.If there weren't sabbat, there just wouldn't be skyclad.But not that big
deal.In fact I like SKYCLAD and SABBAT, but wouldn't compare them , ya know!

And yeah, what kinda blues???
I don't like blues either...


Leonid,
             
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From: gisie@wam.umd.edu (Satan)
Subject: Re: Wrathchild America
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 03:48:08 GMT

In article <1992Dec9.000015.2753@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> thrash@virginia.edu (Scott Evans) writes:
>
>>Does anybody know what has happened to Wrathchild America? I have "Climbing the Walls," and
>>I think it is very good. I saw "3-D" in the store the other day but I don't know if
>>it's worth the money... Does anybody have it? How does it compare to CTW?
>
>
>First of all, I'd say that _3-D_ is just an incredible album.  Far 
>better than CTW, IMO.  
>
>As for what they're up to now, I hear they're label-shopping.  Atlantic dropped
>them for whatever reasons (maybe they just not as tough as Pantera:).  I saw
>them play up in DC a few months ago and they played a lot of new stuff and
>said they'd be putting out an album soon.  Hard to say, but the new stuff 
>(or what I could make out of it; it was way too damn loud) was great.
>
>
>scott



Yup...they are label shopping.  I have seen them 3 times in about a 2 month
span.  I think they are touring the DC area trying out the new stuff.
After all, they are from around here.  The new stuff sounds pretty
hard and fast, and I think it will do well with their fans.

COME ON WRAITHCHILD!

Tim

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From: pan2765@seas.gwu.edu (Crazyman Pan)
Subject: Re: W.A.S.P???
Organization: I have none...
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:33:50 GMT

In article <1ggu9fINNlq3@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> sohaneps@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Patrick S Sohaney) writes:

>Any word on any new stuff???  Where's Lawless and the rest???  All this  
>grunge metal is fantastic, but I'd like to hear some more of the stuff my  
>generation was poisoned with!!!

Gee, I'd hate to you but the poison has been quite watered-down as of recent.
Not that WASP's music isn't appealing any more, it's just appealing in a
different sort of way.  Then again, I've only gotten into WASP very recently
and have only heard snippets of the older stuff (my favorite album is Live...
In The Raw).  Their latest album is The Crimson Idol, apparently released in
Canada and pre-released in the US at concerts (I got one after a concert).  It
was classified by Blackie as a "Rock Opera."  He probably meant something along
the lines of "Rock Epic" more than "opera."  Anyhow, the music is good, but 
seems to me to be quite different than the older stuff.

						-- Crazyman Pan

(I'd rather be playing guitar...)
From: rtousi@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Motley Crue?
Date: 12 Dec 92 21:48:19 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Hi 
  This is my first post so Forgive my stupididy. Does anyone know when the new
Nikki Sixx, Mick Mars, Tommy Lee, and that new lead singer(I refuse to call them
Motley Crue.) will realease a new album. Also Whats Vince Niel up to 
                                  THanks
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From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Ozzy and Bill Ward singing
Organization: none
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 14:01:25 GMT

In article <00964DFE.3A70C7A0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>In article <sf9ah4_00WBKA61ldY@andrew.cmu.edu>, "Marc E. Colosimo" <mc6i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>   The only time anyone else was credited for singing a song for Sabbath
>>with Ozzy in the band still was Bill Ward for "It's Alright". That was
>>the last album Ozzy sang on (I don't think he finished the tour?) He
>>almost didn't sing, but at the last minute changed his mind and recorded
>>it. But it was pulling teeth. When it came time to sing that song, he
>>just wouldn't sing it for some reason or another. Bill Ward sang it in
>>concert.
>>
>>   Solitude also sounds like ward, but there are somethings about the
>>voice which are Ozzy like(the way he sings). But only they know who it
>>is.
>>
>>-marc
>>
>>---------------------------------------------
>>Voices in the Darkness
>>Scream away my mental health
>>Can I ask a question
>>To help me save me from myself
>>       -"Diary Of A Madman" by Ozzy Osbourne
>"Technical Ecstasy" the last album Ozzy sang on?  I'm pretty sure "Never Say
>Die" came out later, and that it was his last album with the group.  I am
>right on this, aren't I?  (I've got NSD down as 1978 in my mind, which would
>realistically have to make it their last Ozzy album, since Heaven and Hell
>came out in 1980, and I'd have to assume they spent '79 looking for a new
>singer).  Eric M.

Yup. Never Say Die is Ozzy's last album with the band. Tech. Ex. is just
from the same time period when they were seperating.
Pax
					--Judex--
From: ingraham@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (James Ingraham)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Lethal
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:30:26 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Dec14.111427.4603@memstvx1.memst.edu> mech14017020@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
>>In article <Bz92w7.8Bx@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v096pz6l@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (HAVE YOU HAD YOUR SPAM TODAY?) writes:
>> 
>>      For those who haven't heard them,they were constantly
>> compared to Fates Warning when they first came out.

>I think it's a fusion with Fates Warning, Crimson Glory, and Iron Maiden
>(though the Iron Maiden is only apparent in the title track).

[Lots of stuff and sigs deleted]

Lethal is very similar to early Queensryche.  VERY similar.  Like, copyright
infringement similar.  But very good.  I'm not sure when Crimson Glory first
came out (since almost none of their stuff got to the US until _Transcendence_)
but Queensryche and Fates Warning are almost equally old, while Maiden is,
of course, a couple of years older.  If you like Lethal, hear the origninals.
And check Sanctuary.  (It's a little harder than Lethal).  And Helloween if
you wany heavy music with both serious and hysterically fun songs.

All this kind of stuff is what prompted me to coin the term, "melody metal."
Never heard anyone else use it though.

-James
University of Pennsylvania
ingraham@eniac.seas.upenn.edu

"There are no uncensored programs." -Lethal
From: 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: MORE ON THIS SELLING OUT THING
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:04:01 GMT
Reply-To: 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu

In article <5907@maserati.qsp.UUCP>, raj@zx.qsp.UUCP (Raj Dosaj) writes:
>
>
>If you saw Metallica on their last tour then you know for sure that they
>have sold out (hopefully they figure this out and go back).  The whole
>show seemed that like that same phony shit you see all the glam bands
>doing.  The video camera behind the scenes of the show, the "drum battle",
>and all the other senseless shit they did, annoyed the fuck out of me.
>I remember when they simply played song after song and gave you all they
>had.  Now it seems like they feel compelled to give us the same crap that
>other bands give us.  Fuck the explosions and laser displays and extra long
>solos.  I came to the show to see them play not to try to appeal to their
>new "video" crowd.  If you leave a show, any show, and the thing you remem-
>ber the most was some pyrotechnic display, then you better think about
>what you really paid to see.  Remember, Lazerium is a lot cheaper than
>a concert.
>
>Raj
I didn't see them in concert, and from your description of the show, it seems
like there might be something to the "selling out" accusation.  I disdain
the lights, etc. and prefer the club scene for that reason.  Still, it strikes
me
as at least possible that they could be selling out in their display and not in
their music, though I realize it all plays into the image (for example, if
Entombed got into the glam look, it would be hard for me to get past that ;) 
).
Eric M.>
From: venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Skyclad... info needed!
Date: 20 Dec 92 03:06:00 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <1992Dec18.211853.19150@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>>
>>And yeah, what kinda blues???
>>I don't like blues either...
>>
>Actually, some blues I like. Danzig, Samson, the once in a while when bands do

I dunno abt DANZIG but what kinda blues does SAMSON play? Is it blues?
It's between hard rock and NWBHM  and no other shit.
Black Sabbath MOVED away from blues. They almost killed blues in their
entire msic that's why they turned all this shit upside down!

I don't hear any blues in Iron Man or Paranoid.WarPigs has a bit in solo parts.


Leonid,
             
              Boston,

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From: Phil.Powell@launchpad.unc.edu (Phil Powell)
Subject: Re: Headbangers Ball?????
Keywords: it sucks
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:27:22 GMT

In article <BzG2tL.BFw@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> kwolf@sage.cc.purdue.edu (The Wolf) writes:
>Ok, since it sucks: Lets pretend your the one who picks what videos to play.
>List the videos, by name and artist, that would make the perfect Headbangers
>Ball episode.
>
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Believer, "Sanity Obscure", Deliverance, "Weapons Of Our Warfare" and
"Stay of Execution", Tourniquet, "Ark of Suffering", "A Dog's Breakfast",
"Broken Chromosomes", "Incommensurate", "Exoskeletons", "Pathogenic Ocular
Dissonance" and "The Skeezix Dilemma", Veni Domine, "The Day of the
Sentinel" and "O Great City", Ordained Fate, "The Election" and "Wonderful
Love"...

That'll do for now...

Phil

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From: ljb89@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Berrie LJ)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Bill Ward
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:54:44 GMT

In <00964B0D.934614A0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:

>In article <1992Dec5.191355.1@hmcvax.claremont.edu>, mulman@hmcvax.claremont.edu (Mike Ulman) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec4.153205.5806@greco-prog.fr>, fertin@joyeux.greco-prog.fr (Fertin G) writes:
>>> 
>>> 	I'd like to know more about Bill Ward.
>>>
>>> 	Thanx in advance,
>>> 
>>> 		Guillaume.
>>
>>
>>As far as his singing, I believe It's Alright was the only song he sang
>>(Sabotage sounds like Ozzy to me) with Sabbath. I heard that he had some solo
>>stuff after the Sabs but I never found anything.
>>
>>
>>Mike 
>>
>
>
>For the record, Bill Ward had at least one solo album released after his days
>in Sabbath, entitled "Ward One: Along the Way."  It came out in 1990, if I
>remmber correctly, and was on I believe Chameleon Records, though I might be
>wrong about this.  Anyway, it had one or two songs with Ozzy singing, as well
>as another song or two with jack bruce.  It received moderately negative
>reviews,
>and I must admit it is nothing at all like Sabbath, though I personally found
>it sort of interesting, with bizarre lyrics.  It's somewhat psychedelic in
>places, more standard hard rock/metal in others, and almost folksy in yet
>others.  



Saw the video to one of the tracks on Bill Ward's solo album on a Hard N' Heavy
video.  The song was called "Bombers" (I guess) and it had Ozzy singing and appearing
in the video.  I, personally, liked the track (so did a few mates).  There was also
an interview with Bill Ward (split into two parts on two separate issues of Hn'H : I
only have the first part) entitled "Then and Now" (or something like that).  I think I
bought the video just over two years ago and he was plugging his new album (he wanted
Geezer to play on it and Geezer agreed, but couldn't make it when the time came).

	Hope this is helpful!


			Lew
			~~~

		(wot no signature ?!?!?!)
From: bruss@cs.ucsd.edu (Brian Russ)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Cathedral and other bands
Date: 12 Dec 92 08:39:36 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

In article <00964B0F.BE89E860@vms.csd.mu.edu> 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>for some of the following:  Confessor, Dream Death, Paradise Lost, or 
>Solitude Aeturnus?  

	Dream Death was a cool group -- their only album, "Journey Into
Mystery" has some doom elements, but with somewhat harsh vocals (not
death metal-ish, but rather hateful, in a hardcore-ish manner) and
some bursts of thrash speed thrown in as well.  I'm pretty sure the
band either broke up and reformed, or just changed names -- the band
now is called Penance, and they just have released an album which
I haven't bought yet.  The drummer played on the Cathedral debut.

	Solitude Aeturnus -- Candlemass clones, on the evidence of their
first album -- haven't heard the second yet.  From Texas.

	Confessor -- an interesting band -- they're signed to a death/
grindcore label but they don't really have that sound -- rather 
high-pitched vocals combined with heavy rhythms and interesting time
changes.  The kind of album that you don't really like the first time
you hear it, but then it starts to grow on you ... one of very few
bands to come from North Carolina!  (Corrosion Of Conformity being the
only other I can think of)


	Paradise Lost -- combines doom rhythms with death vocals, often
to great affect.  I greatly prefer "Gothic" to "Shades Of God", though
they are similar in style -- I haven't heard their first ...

					Brian
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From: pgibb@cs.strath.ac.uk (Paul Gibb TBS92)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden's FEAR OF THE DARK
Date: 16 Dec 92 11:43:33 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.

>pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>- Comments?

Don't know about anybody else, but I don't really like Fear of the Dark all that
much.  I much prefer No Prayer which was for me a step in the right direction
towards a harder, meaner sound.  Small point here, but do any Maiden fans
actually prefer the new Eddie ??  I though the artwork by Riggs on No Prayer
was pretty good.  Mind you none of their recent stuff lives up to Piece Of Mind
or Powerslave.  (You can't beat The Trooper, Flight Of Icarus or Back in The 
Village with the volume at full !)  

Still no matter how good their latest album is Maiden can still kick ass live.
They always seem to come up with the right blend of new songs and classics for
a roaring set.  I have bootlegs of every tour since Beast on the Road and this
has always been the case.  Donnington this year was no exception, I listened to 
(and taped) it off the radio and their performance was excellent ( apart form
Bruce's small error on Evil That Men Do ) ( Aside: How many people have noticed
that on Live After Death during Iron Maiden, supposedly recorded at Long Beach,
Bruce shouts "LONDON, let me see your hands in the air"?).  Anyway, back to 
Donnington, it was superb and I can't wait for the video to come out.  Mind 
you the true successor to Live After Death ( As Bruce calls the Donnington
vid) should be a new live album.

On the subject of Di'anno, I prefer most of Dickinson's live versions, 
especially with the songs from 'Killers'.  Also Prowler '88 and 
Charlotte '88 ( on the b side of Evil That Men Do ) are much better than the 
originals.   Major exception to this is Remember Tommorow - this will always
be Dianno's song ( superb on the Live At The Rainbow video ). 

Looking forward to when Maiden hit Scotland on tour, can anyone post live 
reviews from other countries ?

Paul Gibb - A Maiden & R.J. Dio fan

"YOU DON'T GET A SAY, THE MAJORITY GETS ITS WAY,
YOU'RE OUTNUMBERED BY THE BASTARDS TILL THE DAY YOU DIE"

FEAR IS THE KEY
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From: grippel@vxcrna.cern.ch (GRIPPELING,Marc./PS)
Subject: VIO-LENCE
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 14:39:00 GMT

Hello,

Does anybody out there has any information about the S.F. band VIO_LENCE?
The last thing I heard was that they're looking for a record-deal...
I haven't heard anything of them since they released "Oppressing the Masses"
I saw the once in "The Omni" and they were GREAT!! 

Cheers,
       Marco
From: venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Headbangers Ball?????
Date: 20 Dec 92 03:13:26 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

Hey!!!
Candlemass does have video out!I don't remember which one but before I saw this
video I hadn't heard CANDLEMASS at all.And after this video I just bought
all their CDs cuz it was awesome (except Epicus Doomicus Metallicus-
Not available on CD.Sigh.Had to get LP)


Leonid,
             
              Boston,

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