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From: dana@cabsparc.larc.nasa.gov (Dana Hammond)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.convex
Subject: Availability of CONVEX Examples
Date: 9 Jan 1993 12:15:29 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cabsparc.larc.nasa.gov


  Do the examples from the CONVEX documentation exist through
anonymous ftp?  Specifically, I am looking for the Interprocess
Communication (IPC) Programming Guide examples.

  Providing these examples to the CONVEX user community would
greatly aid both learning and development.

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Subject: testlllll
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 07:18:56 GMT



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.convex
From: rzm@ipx1.mat.torun.edu.pl (Rafal Maszkowski)
Subject: screen 3.2 +
Organization: Nicolaus Copernicus University, Torun
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:51:03 GMT

Did anybody compiled screen 3.2 or newer on convex? Please answer by mail.

R.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
From: alewis@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (Andrew Lewis)
Subject: Re: PKZIP 2.04c
Organization: University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 05:28:32 GMT

For the most information, you could trying reviewing comp.compression. 
There has been a virus scare due to old versions of Norton AV (and perhaps
some other virus-detection utilities) reporting a false positive on the
pklited executables.

There are more serious problems, though.  Comp.compression regulars are
collecting a bug list; sadly, it already has too many entries.  From memory:

without command line switches [possibly with, too?], the new version
crashes windows 3.1 and OS/2 DOS boxes.  This is apparently a problem with
DPMI support.

the string COMPRESSION=maximal in the manual should read =maximum

multi-volume archiving may only be done to physical floppies, and uses
identical filenames for all members of the volume

multi-volume archives which are slightly more than one disk in size do not
reliably compress/uncompress.  This is apparently a boundary problem, and
I do not know where the boundary is, exactly.

volume labels cannot be stored in an archive

There may be others, as well

Andrew M. Lewis
Internet: alewis@gibbs.oit.unc.edu
Bitnet: lewis@unc
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
From: cwr@crash.cts.com (Will Rose)
Subject: Canon Cat Info Needed!
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 09 Jan 93 14:58:56 PST


Does anyone know of an Internet group, or address, or phone number,
or real, live person that knows anything about the Canon Cat?  I'm
looking for one, for no good reason except that it sounds interesting
and when it was new I couldn't afford it.

Thanks - Will
cwr@crash.cts.com
From: C08926RC@WUVMD.WUSTL.EDU (Rob)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: PKZIP 2.04c
Date: 8 Jan 93 13:33:49 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Word has it that the long awaited PKZ204c.EXE has been released.
The file has been downloaded from PKWare's BBS and placed on
wuarchive in the pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS/utils directory.

There was a message on the Windows list, supposedly from PKWare,
confirming that this is the official release.

Anyone have additional info?


Rob
C08926RC@WUVMD
Washington University
From: dave@frackit.UUCP (Dave Ratcliffe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: Re: Air purifiers
Date: 5 Jan 93 00:04:08 GMT
Organization: Data Factory Services, Harrisburg, Pa.

In article <4932@wet.UUCP>, ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen) writes:
> Anyone here have any experience with air purifiers for getting rid of
> smoke and especially dust in a room?  Do they really work?  
> 
> 
> (And what's the difference between this newsgroup and comp.misc?)

        The word 'sys' in the middle

:) <-- use as needed


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc,comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.protocols.misc
From: bruce@gordian.com (Bruce Hafford)
Subject: Where to find LAN  Manager people??
Organization: Gordian
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 02:03:56 GMT

I'm at a loss - can anybody suggest which group(s) LAN Manager
discussions end up in??


bruce@gordian.com
From: TWINTER@AZ.intel.com (SnoMan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: In Dire Straights With Excel...
Date: 8 Jan 93 12:57:08 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Help! Help! Help!

I am writing an application using Excel's macro language. The program
periodically updates graphs, using data obtained from a database that 
runs on a VAX/VMS system. 

I are a couple of items in my user interface that I haven't been able
to figure out how to implement using the functions available in Excel.
I've called Microsoft's tech support on 2 different occasions, with 2 
different problems, but wasn't able to get the help I needed.

The folks I talked to at Microsoft were nice enough, and they did try
to help, but my questions were apparently outside the scope of what
the help desk can answer. They recommended that I check their product
support forum on Compuserve. Their programmers are available on there
to answer questions.

That sounds great, but I don't have access to Compuserve, and as far
as I'm concerned, their rates are outrageous. What I was hoping is 
that I would be able to reach someone on the Excel development team
from the Internet. I know that Microsoft has an Internet link, so
it must be possible. I don't know how to reach anyone there, though.

I would be very greatful if someone out there could provide me with
an e-mail address for someone at Microsoft, or a way to reach them 
on Compuserve (via the Internet, I mean). If there is actually 
someone from Microsoft reading this it would be perfect!


Thankyou,
Todd Winter.
twinter@az.intel.com

P.S.: I am posting this to a couple lists that I don't get to read
      periodically, so please respond to me directly.
From: karell@cs.Helsinki.FI (Esa Karell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: DG d400 emulators for Unix
Date: 10 Jan 1993 15:29:40 +0200
Organization: University of Helsinki, Department of Computer Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra.helsinki.fi

Do you happen to know a DG d400 emulator
for Unix? Either PD or commrecial.
Thanks for any pointers.

Esa
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From: nakata@svc.cpg.sony.co.jp (Y.Nakata Nakata ES-SERVICE)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: Hewlett-Packard/Printear & NEWS
Date: 11 Jan 93 08:18:39 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: B & P Service Engneering dept. SONY Corp. Atsugi city, JAPAN


If you have informations about the printer "LaserJet 4M" as follows, could
you tell me, please?

1)  Can "LaserJet 4M"(manufactured by Hewlett-Packard Co. Ltd.) use with
    connecting "NWS-1850"(the work station manufactured by Sony)?

2)  What "Interface Board" use for that occation?

3)  And, any informations about "LaserJet 4m"

I'm looking forward to your informations.

Best Regards and Thank You.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: Epson HX-20 Info Needed!
From: ooops@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 9 Jan 93 01:32:41 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University

Just wanted to ask and see if anyone here has any ideas where I can come up
with some software or hardware for an EPSON HX20...It is an early laptop (circa
1983) and I was just curious if anyone knows of some places on Internet or 
perhaps one of the commercial services that might have some related
information.

Thanks...
  -Perry Madden     [OOOPS@VAX1.Mankato.MSUS.EDU]
From: larrya@natins.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: Purchasing Organization
Date: 8 Jan 1993 18:05:55 GMT
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: seurat.natinst.com

My boss has asked me to look into how the purchasing department at various companies in the
computer industry is organized.  At our company, purchasing is a sub-department of manufacturing.
That seems odd.  If anyone has the time and the interest to reply, please let me know
how it is in your company.  Is purchasing part of accounting, operations, G&A, manufacturing,
or its own division?  Does the structure work?
Thanks for any and all responses.

Regards,

Larry Anglin
larrya@natinst.com
From: JPB7946@TNTECH.EDU ("Jon Brazelton, Residence Hall Coordinator")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: Help with Tandy 1000TX problem
Date: 5 Jan 93 20:41:05 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

HELP!  I have a problem that maybe someone has an idea on how to help me.

I have a Tandy 1000TX (OK, I know it's terrible, but I'm a starving college
student, and I'm stuck with it until I graduate), and I just bought a new
bubble jet printer to use with it.  However, I don't want to waste the ink
cartridge on normal printing, so I want to use my old dot matrix printer
also.  My solution ... use an A/B switch.  Now the problem ... the 1000TX
uses some sort of edge card for a printer output rather than a DB25 port.  I
can't find any cable, other that one with this edge card connector on one
end, and a Centronix 36 connector on the other.  The A/B switches I have
found need a DB25 connector for the input.

Anyone have any ideas?  I know this sounds sort of confusing, but it's about
to really p*ss me off!  If anyone knows where I can get an A/B switch with a
Centronix 36 connector as an input, I would really like to know.  Let me
know if you can think of any other solutions.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
From: ywlee@cs.uiuc.edu (Youngwhan Lee)
Subject: Hand-written character recognition algorithms?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:12:53 GMT

Hi,

Can anyone tell me how many different character recognition algorithms 
exist and what the references are? 

Are there FTP'able source codes available?
Any pointers will be greatly appreciated.

youngwhan.
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From: myka@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Andreas Myka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
Subject: ActiveBook
Date: 8 Jan 1993 11:16:43 GMT
Organization: Uni Tuebingen, Wilhelm-Schickard-Institut
Distribution: world
Reply-To: myka@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de
NNTP-Posting-Host: sunpower.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de

Hello.

Could anybody give me a hint where I can find information
about the "Active Book" from the Active Book Company (UK).
According to an article I have read, this product should
have been released in 1992.

Thank you.

Andreas Myka

EMail: myka@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
From: tmjones@eos.ncsu.edu (@large(Are you Object-Oriented?))
Subject: PenMate
Originator: tmjones@c00535-106ps.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: tmjones@eos.ncsu.edu (@large(Are you Object-Oriented?))
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:21:34 GMT


Does anyone know anything about a product called PenMate by Mouse Systems.
It claims it replaces the mouse and lets you experience pen based computing.
The question is, Is it just a light pen or a mouse that is shaped like a pen.
Is it compattible with the PenRight! and other pen based operating systems?
Please email me your replies.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
From: odawa@well.sf.ca.us (Michael Odawa)
Subject: Re: Smallest PenPoint App (code size)
Organization: Simple Software
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:27:10 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.171000.28365@wuecl.wustl.edu> dale@manet.wustl.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec31.032315.22424@netcom.com> cew@netcom.com (Clayton  
>Weimer) writes:
   
>1.2K sounds much nicer. For those who don't know put
>
>MODE = production
>
> in you makefile to disable the debug mode...  

That's right, of course.  But it's even easier.  You can set the environment 
variable from DOS:
   C> set MODE=production
or
   C> set mode=debug
to switch back and forth.

I keep the line in a batch file, DEBUG.BAT, so that I can just type
   C> debug on
or
   C> debug off
to move between debug and production mode.

Michael Odawa
Simple Software
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From: lybrand@vnet.ibm.com (David Lybrand)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 15:03:18 EST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen,comp.ai.neural-nets
Subject: Re: Tech report on cursive script recognition by recurrent nets.
Organization: IBM Corp, Boca Raton, FL
News-Software: UReply 3.1

 <ignore this - verifying my links>
From: sprattli@azores.crd.ge.com (Rod Sprattling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
Subject: Newton Developments
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:56:37 GMT
Reply-To: sprattli@azores.crd.ge.com (Rod Sprattling)
Followup-To: comp.sys.pen
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

Don't get excited, now:  I don't have any new info.  But maybe
some of you have partial or full answers to some of my questions.

Has Apple's Newton Group fired up its beta test program yet?
Is there a Particular Person (with a Particular Name and a
Particular Telephone And FAX Number) who leads this effort?

Have any "small" developers received anything other than
the 22 October '92 comminuque from Newton Developer Relations?

Do *you* have reliable information about the current technical
state of the Newton product?  Has it's physical design changed,
or are additional versions of Newton in the works?  What accesories
are planned for the device?  What is Newton's handscrawling recognition
factor?  What hardware and software tools have been, or are being,
created for Newton development?  What marketing and distribution programs
has Apple planned for third-party software?  Has Apple entered into
formal development agreements with third parties beyond those
recruited to develop the basic product?

Lastly, what information sources do *you* find give timely information
about the state of Newton?

Thanks,

Rod
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
From: ds@netcom.com (David Schachter)
Subject: Re: ActiveBook
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:45:38 GMT

I believe Active Book is now part of EO, Inc., in Mountain View, California,
USA.  EO has an office in England: EO Computer Ltd., Abberley House,
Granhams Road, Great Shelford, Cambridge CB2-5LQ.  Their phone number in
England is 0223.843131.  (The business card happens to be handy....)

					-- David Schachter
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
From: testarne@liverpool.media.mit.edu (Thad E Starner)
Subject: Momenta Wanted...also, Boston local
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:10:56 GMT

I would like to purchase an additional Momenta computer.  Anyone out there 
have one for sale?  Ideally it would have 80M hard  8M ram and be running
Microsoft's Windows for Pens (Windows 3.1), but any Momenta machine might do me.

Also, can anyone local to Boston (hopefully T-able) let me try an executeable 
on their pentop (running Pen Windows) or desktop equivalent.  I would like to 
try a NCR 3125 or 30, but anything that is not a Momenta would be appreciated.
It should take all of 5 minutes.  Treat you to some Tosci's.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
From: dale@manet.wustl.edu (Dale Frye)
Subject: Re: Smallest PenPoint App (code size)
Reply-To: dale@manet.wustl.edu
Organization: Washington University, School of Engineering, St. Louis MO
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:10:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.032315.22424@netcom.com> cew@netcom.com (Clayton  
Weimer) writes:
> dale@manet.wustl.edu (Dale Frye) writes:
> 
> >In article <1heotpINNe0r@nigel.msen.com> ggolden@msen.com (Glenn  
Golden)  
> >EMPTYAPP EXE     11120 12-24-92   9:57a
> 
> Still seems large, was this compiled with DEBUG on?  I've had
> apps below 5k, and they are useful too :-)
> 

Yup, I forgot to turn on production mode. Here's the new stats.

EMPTYAPP EXE      1228 01-04-93  10:18a
 

1.2K sounds much nicer. For those who don't know put

MODE = production

 in you makefile to disable the debug mode. It also helps to use the Dbg()  
macro to remove any debugging statements and code from production code. 

Dbg(Debugf("This is an error statement");)
and
Dbg( /* Waste time for debugging */ for (i=0;i<10000;i++);)

and yes there is no ; at the end of that line.

Dale Frye
Washington University in St. Louis
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
From: gcm@world.std.com (Gretchen C Macdowall)
Subject: Re: Momenta/PenPoint vs. Microsoft
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 09:11:13 GMT

tmjones@eos.ncsu.edu (@large(Are you Object-Oriented?)) writes:


>Are there any magazine articles on penright.  Can anyone give me some 
   
The Nov/Dec issue of Pen had a several page article on PenRight!
development tools.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
From: ywlee@cs.uiuc.edu (Youngwhan Lee)
Subject: Go Corp and Integral Systems, Inc.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:07:10 GMT

Hi,
I need to know the phone numbers of the two companies.
Go corp is the developer of penpoint OS. Integral Systems
is a manufacturer of 1.8 inch hard disk drive. I understand 
they are making PCMCIA compatible hard disk drive. 

Thanks in advance.

youngwhan.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.handhelds
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen

>Are there any magazine articles on penright.  Can anyone give me some 
>information on this OS.  Also, I have a few questions about pen/intel machines.
>Would a lightpen or mouse on a desktop act the same as a pen.  Are there any 
>real cheap machines out (less than a $1000) it does not matter if they are
>based on the intel stuff.

The January 1993 issue of Corporate Computing magazine has a big section
on pen computing, and PenRight is mentioned.

Steve Aliamus            |      Phone: 415-857-7927
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
From: tmjones@eos.ncsu.edu (@large(Are you Object-Oriented?))
Subject: Re: Momenta/PenPoint vs. Microsoft
Originator: tmjones@c00498-118rd.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: tmjones@eos.ncsu.edu (@large(Are you Object-Oriented?))
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 12:35:11 GMT


Are there any magazine articles on penright.  Can anyone give me some 
information on this OS.  Also, I have a few questions about pen/intel machines.
Would a lightpen or mouse on a desktop act the same as a pen.  Are there any 
real cheap machines out (less than a $1000) it does not matter if they are based
on the intel stuff.
From: gilbertd@cs.man.ac.uk (David Alan Gilbert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
Subject: Re: ActiveBook
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:33:36 GMT

The active book is no more - it is now the 'EO'
produced by AT&T in the states.
(It could be a subsiduary or something - they bought
the Active Book Company).

And it has been released in the states.

Dave
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From: phudv@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr R B Birkby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pen
Subject: Re: ActiveBook
Date: 9 Jan 1993 20:38:04 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: thyme.csv.warwick.ac.uk



The active book is now the EO Personal Communicator. The company was to use ARM
architecture but probably didn't have enough money to carry the project through
so they got venture capital backing and various companys became involved
including at&t. They then adopted the new HOBBIT CRISC architecture and have
recently launched there first computer.

It is a Gridpad sized machine with a tablet for writing on and funny 'ears'
sticking out (see funky dig below!).

               _______
               |     |   
               /     \
              (       )
               \     /
               |     | 
               |     |
               |_____|
              
These 'ears' contain all the ports and speakers.

There is a major article in Personal Computer World. This is a British mag so
I'm not sure if anyone can get it in the states?
The article claims to have the first review of the product. It also has info on
the at&t HOBBIT as well.

Richard.
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