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From: chu@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Eugene Chu)
Subject: Re: Best HiFi VCR & sony slv585
Organization: SAR Systems Development & Processing, JPL
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 08:50:39 GMT

In article <walshm.711135167@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> walshm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Matt 'MTM' Walsh) writes:
>geoff@hpkslx.mayfield.HP.COM (Geoff Badger) writes:
>
>>I have a Sony SLV585 and have had no problems with it. The only critisism
>>I have is that there is some signal loss (particularly noticable when the 
>>signal is weak) when plugging in the TV/Cable antenna into the VCR and then
>>using your TV as a monitor.
>
>I second the motion.  I have the same unit and am very pleased with it.  My
>only gripes are that the 'tape remaining' could have been done better.  The
>VCR should tell me how far I am into the tape if I insert a tape in that
>isn't rewound.  Plus it shouldn't throw out the remaining time when you
>go into fast rewind - it should at least give you an estimate.
>
>It also seems to have a ton of servo motors doing something in there everytime
>I change functions.  
>--
>Matt Walsh  walshm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu

I have had mine for a few months now, and I'm pretty pleased with it for
the most part.  Yes, all those servos do seem to make a lot more noise
than some of the other comparable decks.  But so does my 5 year old
SuperBeta machine.  Plus, I have been able to make copies of Macrovisioned
tapes with the 585, which I didn't think was possible without help.
The one thing I hate is that stupid shuttle ring that I have to use to
perform fast forward and rewinds with.

But over all, I would recommend it highly, especially now that the 595 is
out with the VCR+ feature (now THAT'S STUPID), the 585 should start dropping
in price.  I got mine for about $400 delivered from New West Electronics.
I haven't checked on prices lately.

eyc
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From: kimnach@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (GREG KIMNACH)
Subject: Re: ED Beta users/fans!   Please respond
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 21 Jul 1992 10:36 EST  

In article <1992Jul21.033114.27539@bilver.uucp>, bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) writes...
>As those of you who own an ED-Beta machine know, the demo tape
>that comes with it really opens your eyes as to what can be
>done with the format.
> 
>I have been told that there are pre-recorded ED-Beta tapes
>available in Japan.
> 
>I also have seen a note from some people who have wanted an
>EDV-9500, but they are no longer available here.
> 
> 
>If they won't bring ED to us, we'll go to them :-)
> 


> 
>-- 
>Bill Vermillion - bill.vermillion@oau.org
>                - bill@bilver.uucp 
>                - ..!{peora|ge-dab|tous|tarpit}!bilver!bill
> 
Bill,

First of all, I haven't been able to e-mail you for the past copuple of 
months--e-mail always bounces.  (I expect the e-mail part of this follow-up 
to bounce as well!)

As for the ED-Beta software and hardware.  I've written to Sony, as I 
usually do, about my concern that they are not supporting the Beta family 
of formats.  Sony's stereotypical response is that it shall continue to 
supply hardware, as long as there is a demand; however, Sony does not seem 
to see the demand exists for ED-Beta.  Thus, only four SuperBeta decks
(i.e., SL-390, SL-HF360, SL-HF870D, and SL-HF2100) are offered in the 
States.  It should be noted that the reason that the 2100 is available here 
in the States is the significant write-in campain that took place to Video 
Magazine, which forwarded the mail to Sony--Sony couldn't ignore the 
numbers and imported the machine here.  Perhaps we could do the same with 
the EDV-9x00 (and even the SL-HF-1000)!  If, say 2000 people commit to 
buying each of these machines, it would be worth Sony's time and expense to 
import the 9000 and manufacture more 1000s.  Who knows?

As for software--Sony's reply was that the software market is not within 
its control.  So who owns Columbia Pictures?

Greg

P.S.  Last weekend I was fortunate enough to find, locally, an ED-W30F.  So 
I think that I am pretty much set on ED hardware....well, maybe I'd go for 
the EDV-9000!  It is a slick machine!
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From: dondd@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Don Dillon)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:32:59 GMT
Subject: Re: LD Player for under $300...& CLV/CAV question
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (NMD MTA MWTD)
Newsgroups: rec.video

>Also, a salesman told me that most LD Players use CLV, some use CAV, but none
>use both.  Is this true?  If so, which format should I be looking for?  The ad
>does not specify which format this player is.  Any help would be greatly
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Chris S.
>----------


I once was at the Good Guys looking to buy a new VCR.  The sales droid was
really pushing a certain model and telling me it could do just about anything,
and some features that there was no way a model in that price range could
have.  Well, I asked him if it had a 'Flying inverse photo-electric
recipricator' circuit built in to reduce the video bandwith acceleration
noise.  Of course he was pleased to anounce that this particular
manufacturer held a pattent on this device, and all other companies had to
pay a royalty to use it in their products.  At this point all I could do
was pull out my trusty silver cross and hold it firmly in front of him
until he desolved into a pile of dust.


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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Laser Disc players with digital frame store
Date: 31 Jul 92 03:16:50 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1392@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> idc@ukc.ac.uk (I.D.Catchpole) writes:
<
<Could someone please tell me how much a Laser Disc Player with 
<digital frame store, for doing still frames of CLV discs, is.
<I may be interested in getting one when I return to the US later
<on this year.  Also does the digital frame store allow you to do
<frame by frame advancing of CLV discs?

First off, consumer LD players that have digital memory are FIELD store,
not frame store.  This reduces the vertical resolution by one-half.  Also,
the consumer machines (that I know of) can only capture a single field per
revolution.  The means that the outside edge freezes can only capture one
field out of a possible six.
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From: chrisp@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Chris Pelkie)
Subject: Re: LD Clubs : Quality?
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:18:19 GMT

In article <rwittick-220792151230@wittick.cl.msu.edu>, rwittick@ibm.cl.msu.edu (Bob Wittick) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul22.162849.445@ge-dab.GE.COM>, vita@gloucester.dab.ge.com
|> (Mark Vita) wrote:
|> 
|> > Has anyone figured out what formula CH uses to determine S&H charges?
|> > 
|> According to their membership book, they charge $3.19 for the first
|> selection
|> and $1.99 for each additional selection.
Then, at least when shipping to NY addresses, they charge sales tax on the S&H, as well
as on the merchandise. Get us coming and going, thanks to our pal Mario "Slo-mo" Cuomo.
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From: EDGLOWE@ECUVM.CIS.ECU.EDU ("Gregg F. Lowe")
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: re: Yet another L1 question
Date: 26 Jul 92 06:23:05 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

In Videotech digest volume 92, issue 573,
 cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!menudo.uh.edu!lobster!nuchat!dfx@u
 cbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (dFx International Digest)  writes:

 > ...I know the L1 uses it's interchangeable lense system,
 > I've gotten that far. Does this mean that my collection of video
 > lenses will be totally unuseable with the L1?...

The L1 uses the VL Mount System.  This system was developed jointly by
Canon, Sony, Hitachi, and Matsushita (Panasonic).  In other words, there are
several manufacturers who produce lenses that are compatible with the L1.
If the lenses you already have use the VL System, they should work.  If not,
well at least you're not stuck with a format that one company has a monopoly
on.

Good luck and if you do start shooting mutant peanut butter jello wrestling,
I'd like to get a copy of the tape.


 Gregg F. Lowe

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From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: R/C Glider crashing!
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:37:12 GMT

In article <19268@optima.cs.arizona.edu> sham@cs.arizona.edu (Shamim Zvonko Mohamed) writes:
>In article <BrJJCB.5M@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:

>Yes, that's the one. It's strange how it has become the quintessential cactus,
>even though it only grows in a relatively small part of the country. No doubt
>the Roadrunner cartoons have something to do with it.
>
>And these things are very large and strong, and usually the larger ones don't
>have any spines on the lower reaches.

Hmmm.. is it also true that if you poke a hole near the base 
you'd get drinkable water? Wonder if that harms the cactus in 
any great way though. The stories I've read suggest that the 
barrel cactus was the one to look for if one needs water bad...


>(And about "holes in the covering", ask me about when I fell while riding my
>mountain bike and landed on a cholla! Now that's a vicious plant.)


Heheheh... Makes one want a pair of kevlar overalls doesn't 
it.. I remember using a rock hammer on a sample once and 
didn't notice that prickly pear right where my hand ended up....





 
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From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: The end is Ni (Lithium)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:39:02 GMT

In article <17069@acorn.co.uk> cwatters@acorn.co.uk (Colin Watters) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.143435.21127@gdunix.gd.chalmers.se> co@bildsun1.mednet.gu.se (Christer Olsson) writes:
>
>>I've seen some adverts about russian rechargable lithium-cells with very high
>>capacity compared with both Ni-Hy or Ni-Cd cells. It seems a lithium cell of
>>same voltage and weight has 10 Ah compared with 1.5-2A for Ni-Cd and maybe 
>>3Ah for Ni-Hy. 
>
>I heard lithium is even more dangerous than Cadmium. So dangerous that a whole
>new kind of lithium battery was being developed in order to make mild overcharging
>safe.
>
>Perhaps this is why they are only available in Russia?

Metallic lithium is dangerous because it will spontaneously
burn. A friend told me about some HUGE (semi-trailer size) 
lithium batteries the Navy played around with. Problem was 
they'd often blow up. As for its poisonous qualities I can't 
say, but Lithium salts are supposedly given as calming agents
to psychiatric patients, so it can't be _that_ poisonous.









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From: djones@iex.iex.com
Subject: Re: Props
Organization: IEX Corporation Inc.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:51:45 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.153612.20836@rtsg.mot.com> svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David
Svoboda) writes:
>
>"Double the diameter and add the pitch" is an old rule of thumb that I use to
>determine engine loading.  So an 11x6 prop produces a "load index" of 28, as
>does a 10x8, so those props will give approximately the same engine load. 
Note
>that a lower pitch prop will unload in the air more than a higher pitch 
>prop (with the same load index), and will make the airplane fly more slowly,
>and climb more positively.
>
Thanks! Does this hold for both 2c and 4c engines? And would it be safe to say
that if a plane is a little underpowered, that a higher pitch for a given load
index would be preferable? For example if the manufacturer suggests a 11x6 as
the optimum
prop, and the plane is a little heavy, then a 10x8 would be better. Or are
really loading then engine down MORE and thus making the plane even more
difficult
to fly?

Do you set a lower pitch prop a little richer on the ground or does it really
matter. I was taught to fill the tank 1/2 way, warm the engine, peek the
RPM on a tach and then back off about 500 RPM. Fill the tank and go fly. This
technique was taught to me more for 4c than 2c but I expect it would work 
in both cases.

>Changing prop brands will skew this rule a bit, because different airfoils,
>blade widths and planforms will produce different drag.
>
There appears to be no easy answer!

>|Can't wait to build my SE5a!!
>
>Cool!  Tell us about it.
>

It is a Flair Sport Scale SE5a. It is about 1/6th scale. I have seen a
completed
plane and it looks great!! The kit is quite complete and includes all
hardware. The cabane struts are aluminum for easy of assembly and disassembly
and really don't look bad. I recently completed a Magnatillia from Flair
and LOVE flying it!! It looks great, flys great, and I get lotsa comments
about her. There is nothing like it at our field! The SE5a looks to be
just as easy to assemble as the Mag was. I am really excited. I hope to 
get my work bench cleared off soon and get started! I will post more as I go
if there is interest.

Doug
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From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Kit Info
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:22:48 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.222033.27269@iex.uucp> djones@iex.iex.com writes:
|Has anyone in netland had experience with any of the following
|kits:
|
|- Royal Corsair (any size)
|- Royal Bearcat

Although I have never personally built one, my clubmates who have tell me
that Royal kits tend toward poor quality, and are generally a pain in 
the arse.  I understand that Top Flite has a much superior Corsair
kit.

		Dave Svoboda, Palatine, IL
From: sbixby@cup.portal.com (Steven W Bixby)
Newsgroups: rec.models.rc
Subject: Re: Noise elimination for embedded aileron servos
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 10:23:40 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

< question about eliminating servo glitching with long leads deleted >

>You're right. The long cables are the reason. It's a pity that I don't
>know any American manufacturers who sell those filter cables you need,
>but if you know a brand named Simprop you might get very good filters
>from them. Or you try to install shielded cables where the pulse wire is
>protected against interference.

There are some manufacturers - try Ace R/C, look in most any R/C oriented
magazine for a number/address.  I seem to recall the product is called 
"Glitch Buster", but that might be another mfgr.  Every now and then someone
in the magazines brings up the subject - Don Lowe of RCM (AMA prez) has
written several articles about it, I think - he even went so far as to 
solder capacitors across the signal/ground wires RIGHT IN THE RECEIVER!

I can't say for sure, but I think if you solder a small cap between the
signal and the ground lines fairly close to the receiver, it will greatly
reduce this problem.  Best bet is to call someone like KMI (Kraft Midwest)
and ask them for specific details.  If you're willing to do the splice/solder/
heatshrink routine, it's cheaper than buying a commercial product, which
does the same thing.

Unfortunately (fortunately!) I haven't needed to do this, so i haven't
tried it.  But I religeously read just about every article in both MAN and
RCM, so i recall seeing this many times.

Good luck!!

  -swb-  (Steve Bixby - sbixby@cup.portal.com)
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From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Netiquettte and censorship (Oh, and a crash)
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:03:13 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.141857.24660@informix.com> robertw@informix.com (Robert Weinberg) writes:

|BTW, Robert, you can get good results, when complaining about posting technique  
|and/or etiquette, by e-mailing to postmaster@whatever_site. This also prevents  
|embarassing the individual on the net

Please don't do this, except as a *last* resort.  Email first, flame if you *must*,
but, darnit, writing to the sysadmin is an attempt at censorship.  Many people on
the net are posting with the *implied* permission of their "owners", (me included),
and would very easily lose their net priveleges (and that of their entire site) if
there were complaints to the sysadmin over net behavior.  I try to watch myself,
but I wouldn't want to lose my net priveleges because of another person's posts.

On the other side of the coin, I also have an account on a public access system, and
I assure you that writing the sysadmin over netiquette issues would be a royal waste 
of time.

Much better to try to solve the matter through email, don't you think?


ObRC-crash: My first RC glider crash was when a kid rode his bicycle out onto the 
grass field (a sod farm) from which I was flying.  Not wanting to chase the kid 
off (he was very inquisitive, and polite), I went over to stand near the bicycle, 
so I wouldn't hit the only obstacle on the field when I landed.  Yeah, right.  
Left wing (of 11 foot ASW17) broken in two at midpoint.

		Dave Svoboda, Palatine, IL
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From: bobwo@ecs.comm.mot.com (Bob Woodhouse)
Subject: Re: Crystals AM & FM: Factory Adjustment???
Organization: secure_comm
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 11:24:17 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.222724.6449@informix.com> robertw@informix.com (Robert Weinberg) writes:
>Here's another question you R/C gurus can answer while we are on this thread.
>
>My Futaba radio kit literature (Attack 4-channel AM) says I can buy another set  
>of crystals, but I'd better send the set back to Futaba for them to adjust the  
>crystals. True? Why?
>
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My Magnum Sport instructions said the same thing.  Well, it's not quite
the case that they would actually adjust the crystals;  perhaps they
are implying that the would tune some circuitry or something.  At any
rate, the common and effective practice of just pulling out crystal#1
and substituting crystal#2 seems to have given nary a problem to me
and to any racers who find that they need to use an alternate frequency
in an A-main due to conflict with another racer.  In short, I personally
would disregard this particular Futabian instruction.

Regarding my earlier post which asked if AM and FM crystals are the same
thing with different prices, if I ever get an FM radio, I will certainly
try 'AM' crystals before I pay the 'FM' crytstal price.

Stay tuned,
Bob Woodhouse


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From: m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White)
Subject: Hover achieved... with my Glider!
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 12:43:30 GMT

Was out flying my Goldberg Electra last night.  Getting braver, and tried 
flying in something more than a flat calm.  The breeze was maybe 5 or 10 
mph, and there was a little bit of ridge lift comming over the top of a 
small rise.  With maybe 1/4 power, the Electra would just hover motionless 
about 20 feet up, for a minute at a time!  What a hoot!

I did have one nasty surprise: I'm using the Futaba 4NBLE radio, the one with the electronic speed controller built into the receiver.  It works great, but... the radio has a thermal cutout, and when you operaten at low power levels for a while, the regulator chips heat up, and the the protection circuits shut down the motor.  So, it was quitting about halfway through each flight;  I had to land, let the receiver cool off, then launch and run the rest of the battery charge.  Think I'm going to put in some 



air scoops to keep the receiver cooler.



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From: tod@cs.washington.edu (Tod Amon)
Subject: Help Vacuum Bagging a Wing
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 20:17:31 GMT

I'm going to be vacuum bagging my first foam core wing in a few days, and
I have a few simple questions regarding the process.  I'm building a small
hand launched glider (Chuperosa) which has balsa skins.  What I don't
understand is how to use the breather-cloth.  I don't have any peel-ply (is
this stuff needed) but someone suggested I can just use paper towels (I
didn't really understand this).  I've been told that I need to use something,
else I won't have a proper air channel for the vacuum process to work.  If
you've done this (used an EZ-Vac I or something similar) and can explain what
I do after I've sheeted the wing but before I put the thing in the bag, that
would be great.  Thanks for your help.
-tod
From: tmr@cs.bham.ac.uk (Tim M. Read)
Newsgroups: rec.models.rc
Subject: Plan Wanted
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:24:07 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: School of Computer Science, University of Birmingham, UK

Does anyone know of a suitable plan for a 40" wing span, two channel elctric
trainer?

Thanks,

 Tim
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