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From: morwenna@cyclone.maths.monash.edu.au (ms  m    griffiths)
Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
Subject: Bike paths, Melbourne Eastern suburbs
Date: 11 Nov 92 23:47:48 GMT
Organization: Monash University

I live in Clayton (but not in walking distance of a train station).
I had to go into the city for the day and instead of going in by public
transport I rode in (this is the first time :-) ).  Public transport
takes anywhere from 1 hour to 1.5 hours (depending on connections) and I
rode in in 55 mins (i thought this was pretty good - and i not am a fast
rider!).

I was wondering if anyone has suggestions on good routes to take.
I rode in along Dandenong road and found that there were rather too many
trucks for my liking (especially near the end) :-(  Also, on some parts 
there was a picture of a bike painted in the left lane - does this mean 
cars should not be there? (I don't think cars saw it).

On the way home i rode along the bike path, which i measured as 3km
further (it was 20km going along Dandenong Rd).  however, I had
difficulty where the "yarra track" ends (near MacRobertsons bridge) and
where the "gardiners creek track" starts at Kooyong.  What is a good way
to get around this problem?  I find that i either end up on main roads
for rather longer than i would like or i go along steep winding side
streets in an attempt to find my way through!!
Am i the only one with this problem??

Morwenna

morwenna@cyclone.maths.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
From: daavid@bohra.cpg.oz.au (Daavid Turnbull)
Subject: Re: Bike paths, Melbourne Eastern suburbs
Organization: Computer Power Software
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:31:22 GMT

morwenna@cyclone.maths.monash.edu.au (ms  m    griffiths) writes:

>I live in Clayton (but not in walking distance of a train station).
>I had to go into the city for the day and instead of going in by public
>transport I rode in (this is the first time :-) ).  Public transport
>takes anywhere from 1 hour to 1.5 hours (depending on connections) and I
>rode in in 55 mins (i thought this was pretty good - and i not am a fast
>rider!).
I work in Hawthorn, fortunately right on the bike path and live in Clayton
near Monash Uni.  I takes me 20 to 40 minutes to drive and 45 odd minutes
to ride mostly along the cycle path.

>I was wondering if anyone has suggestions on good routes to take.
Dandenong road to Huntingdale road then down the hill to the cycle path,
from there on it is very pleasant, particularly on still misty mornings.

>I rode in along Dandenong road and found that there were rather too many
>trucks for my liking (especially near the end) :-(  Also, on some parts 
>there was a picture of a bike painted in the left lane - does this mean 
>cars should not be there? (I don't think cars saw it).
Where there is a service road Dandenong road is fine after that the cycle
path is definitely the go.  The have fixed up the bit around the Malvern
Valley golf course at last such that is is now reasonable all the way to
Glenferrie Road.

>On the way home i rode along the bike path, which i measured as 3km
>further (it was 20km going along Dandenong Rd).  however, I had
If you are not in a hurry it may be further but it is definitely
safer pleasanter riding... well worth the detour.

>difficulty where the "yarra track" ends (near MacRobertsons bridge) and
>where the "gardiners creek track" starts at Kooyong.  What is a good way
>to get around this problem?  I find that i either end up on main roads
>for rather longer than i would like or i go along steep winding side
>streets in an attempt to find my way through!!
>Am i the only one with this problem??
No.  My boss comes from the opposite direction to the same location,
obviously, he complains that there is a problem here.  I believe that
there is a fix in the pipeline comming but I cannot comment on when.
After that though the track along the yarra is reasonable, and again
pleasant though it can get a bit crowded at times.

Overall I recommend the bike track though it is very dark after sunset,
particularly with the black bitumen path.  If you follow the track east
it goes out towards and beyond Jell's park, again a very plesant ride.

If I did not have to drive the children to school, again in Hawthorn/Kew
I would have little hesitation in riding every day... though watch out
for the sliperyness of the wooden bridges in frost/wet conditions.

Please let us know about your optimum route when you work it out.
-- 
	Daavid Turnbull
	daavid@bohra.cpg.oz   +61 3 823 0222    (fax) +61 3 824 8068
	uunet!munnari!bohra.cpg.oz!daavid
	CP Software Export Pty Ltd                   ACN 006 640 133
Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
From: bhat@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Timothy Alan Heath BELL)
Subject: Re: Bicycle bells
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 00:29:54 GMT

tosca@crispin_sun.cs.adfa.oz.au (Crispin Russell) writes:
>In article <9231423.29640@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, bhat@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Timothy Alan Heath BELL) writes:
>|> I REALLY got the ticket for pointing out that the policeman had broken the
>|> traffic law.

>	my brother in law made the mistake of following a speeding police car
>at the same speed (in a car of course).  The cop stopped and booked him which 
>I thought was awfully funny.  He objected officially and got off as the cop
>was breaking the law for no good reason.  I'm not suggesting you will get off
>as well if you object but it might be worth a try.

I've heard that if I do contest it in court, I'll still end up paying costs.
I feel my best course of action is to inform the Police Ombudsman, police
complaints, and write a letter to the Age. I'm not too worried about $20,
though I am concerned about this policeman's utter lack of professionalism and
unlawful driving. I'll keep this newsgroup informed as to how I go. (I'll wait
till after exams though: I've got enough on my plate at the moment :)

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Tim Bell.	Computer Science, University of Melbourne , Australia
bhat@mullauna.cs.mu.oz.au  --  This account is due to die on  14/12/92.
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Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
From: Quinn <quinn@cs.uwa.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Bicycle bells
X-Xxdate: Mon, 9 Nov 92 03: 25:38 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:27:32 GMT

In article <9231411.14508@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Timothy Alan Heath BELL,
bhat@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU writes:
>The reason I'm asking is a $20 traffic fine I got recently, with the
words
>"Fail to have lamps and equipment". The cop says it was for not having a
bell.

Gee and I thought I was hard done by when the cops pulled me over
and officially *cautioned* me for not having a bell.  My commiserations.

Quinn "The Eskimo!"      <quinn@cs.uwa.edu.au>     "Support HAVOC!"
Department of Computer Science, The University of Western Australia
Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
From: bhat@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Timothy Alan Heath BELL)
Subject: Re: Bicycle bells
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:29:18 GMT

martin@matilda.vut.edu.au (Martin Schweitzer) writes:

>In article <9231423.29640@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> bhat@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Timothy Alan Heath BELL) writes:
>>
>>Next time, I'll make sure I have a bell before picking on bad police drivers.:)
>>
>>Tim Bell.
>     ^^^^
>I couldn't help noticing the irony of Bell being stopped for not
>having a bell. 

This point wasn't lost on the police officer either.

>                I was wondering, if I got stopped and asked where
>my Bell is, if I pointed to my helmet and said this is a Bell, 
>what the reaction would be.

Well, I was wearing a Bell helmet at the time, but I didn't think of that,
as the officer asked if I had a 'warning device'. Pity...

Tim you-know-who

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Tim Bell.	Computer Science, University of Melbourne , Australia
bhat@mullauna.cs.mu.oz.au  --  This account is due to die on  14/12/92.
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Newsgroups: aus.education
From: c9036984@cc.newcastle.edu.au (Definition of Flying: One must merely throw themselves at the ground and miss)
Subject: Books for Sale
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 07:56:27 GMT

[Posted on behalf of a friend, please see below for contact details ]


I am moving interstate in less then 3 weeks time and would like to get
rid of as much of my 'excess baggage' before I go, so that I dont have to
find somewhere to store it. I have a number of books that I would like
to sell to anyone interested.... here's a list... make me an offer... I'll
probably
take it..

Computer Science An overview  2nd Ed  J. Glenn Brookshear
Digital Design 2nd Ed  M. Morris Mano
Cooper's Condensed Pascal
Computers: The User Perspective 2nd Ed
EE130 & EE170 Laboratory Manual
Introduction to Computer Technology  Dr B.J.Cook
Microprocessors & Programmed Logic  K.L. Short
Dictionary of Animals   M.Chinery
Breakout! #37, 43 & 44
Corporate Combat  W.EPeacock
Master Ket to Riches  N.Hill
Secret of Inner Strength: My Story  C.Norris
Seeds of Greatness  D.Waitley
Personal Power Program  B.Lyon
Skill with People  L.Giblin
Ivy and Chrome (for Shadowrun)

If you are interested in anything, please contact me at:
bloodgor@maria.wustl.edu
or
Scott English
29 Roe St               681558
Mayfield NSW
2304

Newsgroups: aus.education,uts.general
From: simmons@krang.vis.citri.edu.au (Stephen Edward Simmons)
Subject: Re: Undergrad access to AARNet
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:59:10 GMT

brent@socs.uts.edu.au (Disco Inferno Curtis) writes:

>(Patrick Herlihy) writes:

> >(Rick Jelliffe) writes:
> >
> >>Why do undergrads need any access to AARnet anyway? 
> >
> >That, of course, is a good question.  In actual fact, the only reason
> >why undergrads should have access to AARNet is that it is a great facility
> >for learning how "real" computing is done.

>Robert Springborg of Macquarie ran a joint Mq/Melbourne Uni (I think)
>project across AARNet. He had his history/politics students assuming
>the roles of various important people in the gulf war. The different
>groups communicated using talk and mail. I would assume that they
>re-enacted the politics and communication of the war. I thought this 
>was a wild use of the net - any readers take part?

>I only found out about this because I was logged on to the same
>computer as George Bush, Saddam Hussein and the King of Jordan!

>                      Brent.

>------------------------------------------------------------
>"The Devil is at work. It may          |   Brent Curtis
> say Bananas or Mad House or           |   School of CompSci
> Samantha's on the outside, but it's   |   UTS
> all Disco Europa on the inside."      |   New South Wales



The politics department at Melbourne University ran a Middle Eastern 
politics simulation in October.  It involved students from 
Melbourne University, Georgetown University in the USA and Cairo University.

I understand a major complication was convincing the various security agencies
which monitor all Internet transmissions for suspect words like "Abu Nidal"
that it was just a simulation, not a cover for real terrorist activity.

The organiser was Dr Andrew Vincent, who I think used to be the Australian
ambassador to Lebanon.  

Newsgroups: aus.education
From: jones@ils.nwu.edu
Subject: New Ph.D. Program
Organization: institute for the learning sciences
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1992 21:30:10 GMT

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Newsgroups: aus.education,uts.general
From: brent@socs.uts.edu.au (Disco Inferno Curtis)
Subject: Undergrad access to AARNet
Reply-To: brent@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Date: 11 Nov 92 09:14:19 GMT

(Patrick Herlihy) writes:

 >(Rick Jelliffe) writes:
 >
 >>Why do undergrads need any access to AARnet anyway? 
 >
 >That, of course, is a good question.  In actual fact, the only reason
 >why undergrads should have access to AARNet is that it is a great facility
 >for learning how "real" computing is done.

Robert Springborg of Macquarie ran a joint Mq/Melbourne Uni (I think)
project across AARNet. He had his history/politics students assuming
the roles of various important people in the gulf war. The different
groups communicated using talk and mail. I would assume that they
re-enacted the politics and communication of the war. I thought this 
was a wild use of the net - any readers take part?

I only found out about this because I was logged on to the same
computer as George Bush, Saddam Hussein and the King of Jordan!

                      Brent.

------------------------------------------------------------
"The Devil is at work. It may          |   Brent Curtis
 say Bananas or Mad House or           |   School of CompSci
 Samantha's on the outside, but it's   |   UTS
 all Disco Europa on the inside."      |   New South Wales

Newsgroups: aus.sf,aus.films
From: pjk@csis.dit.csiro.au (Philip Kilby)
Subject: Re: Sydney's SF Film Fest
Organization: CSIRO Division of Information Technology
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 05:34:04 GMT

17 hours of SF - but what's showing?

philby

phil.kilby@csis.dit.csiro.au
CSIRO  Division of Information Technology
PO Box 664 
Canberra ACT  2601   AUSTRALIA

Newsgroups: aus.sf,aus.films,aus.culture.ultimo
From: leroy@socs.uts.edu.au (Leroy)
Subject: Re: Sydney's SF Film Fest
Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
Distribution: aus
Date:  6 Nov 92 00:17:49 GMT

u910996@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Delroy Hartley) writes:

>>On the 5th of December, our very own Valhalla is putting on 17 HOURS OF
>>SCIENCE FICTION with FREE HOMER HUDSON ICECREAM!

>As someone who will be visiting Sydney at this time....Where is this place??

The Valhalla is located in pleasant, somewhat sunny Glebe Point Road, Glebe.
Glebe is one of Sydney's less interesting suburbs: as such, the Val sticks
out like a once-excellent theatre in a suburb full of yuppies and over-priced
cafes. Just get on a bus and say "Mr Bus Driver, please drop me off at the
Bus Stop outside the Valhalla." Be sure he understands that you won't be
visiting the Craven.

>-- 
>Delroy Hartley

Lose the "D." It's sexier. Trust me.

--- G M Heinrich  ( leroy@socs.uts.edu.au )
Why do they happen to me, these numb, flushed, unanswerable, these pornographic
things? Well, I guess if you're a pornographic person, then pornographic things
happen to you.
Newsgroups: aus.sf
From: ins894r@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Aaron Wigley [Wigs])
Subject: ST:TNG Evolution
Organization: Monash University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:05:54 GMT

Much better than 'Shades of Grey' :)

Interesting to note, "inches" are still around in the 24th (25th?) century;
When Bev Crusher sizes up Wesley, she says she "missed, oh, 2 inches" of him.

The Wigs of Oz,
Aaron Wigley
From: rhys@cs.uq.oz.au (Rhys Weatherley)
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: TNG book: Q-In-Law
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:16:53 GMT
Reply-To: rhys@cs.uq.oz.au

It's great to see season 3!!  Thanks Channel 9.  Just keep those ratings up
everyone, and hopefully we'll get to see the lot eventually. :-)

OK ... the point of this article:

Normally, you understand, I just look at the TNG books in the stores and don't
buy them, because I know that if I buy one and read it, I won't be able to
stop until I've read them all, at great cost to my wallet.  A definite
character flaw. :)

Anyway, yesterday I noticed the latest one in the store.  And lo and behold,
Q was on the cover!  So, against my better judgement, and the above-mentioned
policy, I just had to have it and payed out the money.

Well, what can I say?  "Q-In-Law" by Peter David is a riot!  I was laughing
my head off all the way through.  4 hours after purchasing the book, I turned
the last page very impressed (I'm a speed reader - another character flaw :) .

Basically the plot of the story is "Q meets Lwaxana Troi".  Need I say more? :)
In the background is a wedding linking two alien factions, which Q manages
to stuff up (of course).  The climax is particularly hilarious.  But, I'll
shut up now or I'll ruin it for you. :)

Buy or borrow this book if you are a Q fan - I'm sure you'll love it as I did.

Now all I have to do is restrain myself from buying all the rest of the books
in the next 2 weeks.  Maybe if I limit myself to 1 a week?  Yeah, that's the
ticket - 1 a week. :)

Has anyone else read any of the other TNG books?  If so, post your impressions
here.

Cheers,

Rhys.
--
Rhys Weatherley, University of Queensland, Australia.
rhys@cs.uq.oz.au  "I'm a FAQ nut - what's your problem?"
Newsgroups: aus.sf,aus.films,aus.culture.ultimo
From: chris@state.COM.AU (Chris Keane)
Subject: Re: Sydney's SF Film Fest
Organization: Group Treasury, State Bank of NSW
Distribution: aus
Date:  9 Nov 92 00:06:45 GMT

brent@socs.uts.edu.au (Disco Inferno Curtis) writes:

>You can even get airborne driving along Bridge Road over Glebe 
>Point Road.

There appears to be an interesting although completely
infuriating condition that overcomes most drivers driving along
Pyrmont Bridge Road that causes them to drive no faster than
40 km/h. I've never figured out why, but it is definitely not
fast enough to get airborne over the hump at Glebe Point Road.

However, late at night when the roads are deserted - then -
yes, then - it is time to... fly.


regards...                                                 
Chris Keane.                    State Bank NSW             ph. +61 2 259 4459
Unix Systems Administrator     (Group Treasury)      chris@rufus.state.COM.AU
Famous Gravitational Joke: It must have been density that brought us together
Newsgroups: aus.sf
From: evan@dnd.icp.nec.com.au (Wendigo)
Subject: Re: ST:TNG - Shades of Grey
Keywords: pathetic
Organization: NEC Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:31:41 GMT

rez@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Anestis Kozakis <Rez>) writes:

>In <andrew.721010872@daneel.rdt.monash.edu.au> andrew@daneel.rdt.monash.edu.au (Andrew Moore) writes:
>>bsmith@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Brian Smith) writes:
>>>BLEEEAHHHHHHGGGHGHGHGHGHG !
>>My sentiments precisely.
>>What a truly pathetic episode, methinks the script writers were on
>>strike or at the very least, had a mental block ?

It struck me as a bit of a pathetic attempt at suspense drama.  I think
the main reason this didn't work was because you didn't really care
whether Riker lived or died...
-- 
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Newsgroups: aus.sf
From: rez@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Anestis Kozakis <Rez>)
Subject: Re: ST:TNG - Shades of Grey
Keywords: pathetic
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 01:37:00 GMT

In <andrew.721010872@daneel.rdt.monash.edu.au> andrew@daneel.rdt.monash.edu.au (Andrew Moore) writes:
>bsmith@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Brian Smith) writes:
>>BLEEEAHHHHHHGGGHGHGHGHGHG !
>My sentiments precisely.
>What a truly pathetic episode, methinks the script writers were on
>strike or at the very least, had a mental block ?
'Funnily enough :-)
The reason for so many bad episodes in season 2 was because there was a
writers strike (this includes "Shades Of Grey"). Rumour had it that
Gene Roddenberry was even having his accountant(?) writing scripts
(probably just a rumour). Apparently, season 3 is much better (Just wait
until "The Best Of Both Worlds". All I can say is brilliant!

>Andrew.
>(Now let us all kneel at the temple of programming and pray that Nine
>goes straight into series 3 (and keeps on going !))
I think they are. The "Green Guide" saysd that they are showing Star
Trek Next thursday, and there's no R(epeat) symbol. :-)
Rez.
-- 
Anestis Kozakis
rez@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au               ent670w@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au
"Off days" are a part of life, I guess, whether you're a cartoonist, a
neurosurgeon, or an air-traffic controller. -- Gary Larson.