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From: u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei)
Subject: Stuff2
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:03:50 GMT

Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Keywords: n

In article <1992Oct7.192406.19028@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> gattuso@ssd.comm.mot.com (Christopher Gattuso) writes:
>
>My turn.....
>
>	I got two words for Magic.....LAST PLACE.
>	I got one more word for Magic....CLIPPERS.
>	I got two words for the NBA.....THREE PEAT.
>	I got two words for the Knicks....NO DEFENSE.
>
>Enough said!!!!

Well since only one of the above three is a possibility, the enough said
at the bottom kind of loses its meaning doesn't it?

Knicks, no defense?  Last year they were one of the stingiest teams in the
league and have gotten better defensively if anything.  Blackman and Rivers
are better defenders than the players they replaced, and if Charles Smith
is not a perfect 3 position defender, he'll block a lot of shots.
From: blip@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Bryan Lip)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Gaze in the NBA?
Date: 15 Oct 92 10:47:25 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
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davidy@sumax.seattleu.edu (Stimpson J. Cat) writes:

>In article <1992Oct14.114840.1@cc.curtin.edu.au> smorshea@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:

>*********** discussion about Andrew Gaze deleted *****************


>>anybody.  If he hadn't got the thrombosis in 1990, he would probably be in the 
>>NBA, he had offers from Philadelphia, Minnesota, and Seattle(?) to attend their
>					           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>camps, and could have made one of their squads.
>>

>	He got more than an invitation to join Seattle's camp. He actually did
>attend Seattle's training camp. He did get a chance to make the team. He
>did not do so.


let me say some stuff...

yes, gaze did go to the sonics camp but that was not in 1990, that was
after seton hall. not when he had a stress thrombosis, if anybody read
his book they would know... anyway, he did shoot a three over magic
johnson when the sonics played the lakers

but gaze said he considered the seatle camp  as more of a learning
process than anything else, he knew he didnt have a good chance because
he felt he wasnt at the peak of his game however, as we can see, gaze
did get offers later but the stress thrombosis got to him in that
year... and trust me, you cant shoot hoops when your arm is twice the
size it should be!

anyway... gaze should be in the nba. 37ppg. in the nbl is good enough
for me, considering he is leading loads of ex-nba players here by a good
5 ppg!, does that proove anything?

ps, some quality information provided by good old andrew!

thanks andrew, ps, why dont americans read more before they comment.... 

its a shame to all other american people!



>>Andrew
>>smorshea@cc.curtin.edu.au




>				David L. Yee
>			email to:davidy@sumax.seattleu.edu


blip@tartarus.uwa.edu.au


wildcats forever! (ps sack arnold and get bruton back!)
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From: rune-w@hsr.no (Rune Andre Wallmark)
Subject: JORDAN/BULLS
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:02:50 GMT

Does anyone out there know for how long Michael Jordan is going to play for da
Bulls??? I hope I can look forward to many, many happy years infront of my TV,
watching the greatest basketballplayer i the world...



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From: matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher)
Subject: Re: Brian Williams -- Injured Again
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: 10 Oct 92 17:52:14 GMT

hopkins@sparc1.ist.ucf.edu (Sean Hopkins) writes:

[about Brian Williams]

>I personally think he will be able to play once he gets over his fear 
> and if that means seeing a psychic then maybe he should do it.

I feel for Williams, and I think he's a very unlucky guy, but I 
can't pass this up.

Brian:  Um, I've been having heart problems, but everyone thinks it's
	in my head.  What should I do?  If I play again, will I be OK?

Psychic: I forsee a complete recovery - you just have to start playing
	and you'll be as good as new!  My crystal ball tells all!

Brian:  That's great!

Psychic: Not exactly.  The ball also says that you'll still be a stiff.


   --  The answer is: "Dover, a PennState Poster and Brian Williams"

   --  The question: "Name a Cliff, a BIFF, and a Stiff"
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From: mark@tc.fluke.COM (Mark D. Nagel)
Subject: Re: Clippers
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:30:19 GMT


>In article <39258@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> cs161feu@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff) writes:
>>I am stunned that a team that struggled with Benoit Benjamin for so
>>long, and finally got good only when they got rid of him, has now
>>gone and acquired Stanley Roberts and John Williams over the case of
>>a single off-season.  Geez!  Hey, Elgin-- wanna trade for Oliver
>>Miller?
>>
>>Hey, if Roberts and Williams don't work out, maybe you can trade
>>them to the Rams for Jim Everett and some draft picks.  :-)
>>
>>Tony

I didn't think that the Clippers did squat, with or without Benjamin, until
they got Brown (Larry). Trust me, coaches make a big difference; compare
what Seattle did last year with KC Jones vs what they did with George Karl:
Big difference, and Benjamin WAS part of the team!

This will be the telling year for Benoit. How about we trash him if he does
poorly (like folks need to be prompted for that), and praise him if he does
well? Fair is fair, cause this is a new season and Seattle is gonna run
opponents into the ground!
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From: davidy@sumax.seattleu.edu (Stimpson J. Cat)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Gaze in the NBA?
Date: 14 Oct 92 04:40:02 GMT
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

In article <1992Oct14.114840.1@cc.curtin.edu.au> smorshea@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:

*********** discussion about Andrew Gaze deleted *****************


>anybody.  If he hadn't got the thrombosis in 1990, he would probably be in the 
>NBA, he had offers from Philadelphia, Minnesota, and Seattle(?) to attend their
					           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>camps, and could have made one of their squads.
>

	He got more than an invitation to join Seattle's camp. He actually did
attend Seattle's training camp. He did get a chance to make the team. He
did not do so.


>Andrew
>smorshea@cc.curtin.edu.au




				David L. Yee
			email to:davidy@sumax.seattleu.edu
From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Celtics training camp
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:54:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw6Hy4.BLp
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

rjs@citi.umich.edu (Robert J. Skrobola) writes:

>Extreme nit-pick...Battle was drafted by the Pistons..Traded on or soon
>after draft day for....eeee...ahhh...I don't remember who.. :)

	You're right.  Battle was originally drafted by the Pistons,
	but was traded on draft day for the rights to Anthony Cook, who
	the Suns had drafted earlier in the same draft.  Battle's first
	NBA games were as a Phoenix Sun.

	Jazzy J
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From: freshlt@quig20.alleg.edu (Timothy Freshly)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Cavs (was Re: Cavs get Gerald Wilkins?)
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:32:12 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College


	With the signing of Gerald Wilkins, the Cavaliers have filled a  
gap that has been glaringly empty ever since they traded Ron Harper.   
Wilkins, whom I'm guessing will play shooting guard/small forward, is  
pretty athletic and (New York fans correct me if I'm wrong) has decent,  
but not great, shooting ability.  All the Cavs need is someone who can be  
fairly consistent from outside to complement Price.

Cavs Possible Starters:		Another possibility:
	PG - Price		- Price
	SG - Wilkins		- ?????
	SF - Nance		- Wilkins
	PF - Williams		- Nance
	C  - Douraghty*		- Brad
	6M - Ferry, Lane ??? 	- Williams 

*(I probably butchered his name but I can't remember how to spell it  -  
SORRY BRAD!!!!!)
	Anybody have info on the Cavs' roster?

SEASON OUTLOOK:
	If everyone stays healthy (big IF!!!), the Cavs should finish with  
about the same record (57-25, '91-'92).  I would love to be able to say  
that, after playing behind both the Pistons and recently the Bulls, the  
Cavs will finally break out and win the Central and make an appearance, +,  
in the World Championships.  The Bulls, however, still look very strong.   
The Cavs took them to six last year and with the addition of Gerald, the  
coaching of Lenny, another good year out of Nance, who unfortunatly is not  
getting any younger (2-4 more years, tops IMHO), consistent play out of  
everyone else, and NO injuries (PLEASE!!!!) the Cavs should be right back  
in the Eastern Conference finals fighting it out with Jordan and Company  
again this year.  Look for seven games this year.  It should be a great  
year for Basketball!

					Tim
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From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: Lakers
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 22:42:22 GMT

ghc@ocf.berkeley.edu (Gary Cheng) writes:
>   Is there a Lakers mailing list for all those die-hard Laker fans?

Rec.sport.basketball.pro *is* the Lakers mailing list.  We die-hard
Laker fans just *let* the other poor souls use *our* newsgroup for
their nefarious purposes because we find their rantings and ravings
amusing.


--Gidi	(lakers in three)
From: mittman1@athena.mit.edu (Christopher T Chiu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Suns anti-woof
Date: 10 Oct 92 17:50:09 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

It's useless to compare Chambers to Duckworth and Cartwright, because they are
the two WORST centers in the league!!  Chambers is a unidimensional player--take
away his scoring and what do you have?

P.S.  If you want to talk about aging veterans, what do you think Charles Barkley
is?  I'm a fan of his, but even he says he has only two or three good seasons
left in him! 

Chris "Genghis" Chiu
From: kompella@cs.ucsd.edu (Vachaspathi Kompella)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Wilt Chamberlain
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:42:04 GMT
Organization: CSE Dept., UC San Diego


In article <Bw0yvp.G51@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
|> 	Interesting enough, however -- if somebody were to pick up Wilt
|> 	right now, how do U think he would do?  He certainly has kept in
|> 	shape, and I remember a few years back, he was saying that even
|> 	the Cleveland Cavaliers were talking to him about returning to 
|> 	play (then again, this is Wilt talking).  I know he's been actively
|> 	involved in playing volleyball.  I think he could do better than
|> 	some of the also-rans playing center in the league.  Any thoughts?
|> 
|> 	Jazzy J
|>  

Has the Stilt ever played in one of those All-Star shows for the legends of yesteryears?
Can't remember the official name for it.

-Vach
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: kbowers@esrc1.uucp (Ken Bowers)
Subject: Re: That Top Ten Draft Discussion
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:53:22 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.220508.20654@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:

>No?  Well, In the top 10 you *hope* to get a franchise player, or at
>least an all-star.  That's what you *hope*.  But realistically, you
>cannot expect much more than a decent player who will give you solid
>bench play.  And the variance is quite wide.
>
>Look at it this way: Over the course of any given 10 years, how many
>players are considered "perennial all-stars"?  Twenty, thirty, no more
>than fifty(*).  Basically, in every draft you're looking at an average
>of 3 to 6 great players, and a lot of cannon fodder.  So even if your
>scouting was close to perfect, a top-10 pick would probably be wasted
>about half of the time!

Wasted? Well, let's look at who those other 4-7 guys turn out to be. 
In 1985 they might be Koncak and Kleine, or (below them) Oakley and
Pinkney. Just above them, X-man and Tisdale. That's a pretty big
range in production among those six. 
I'd say how your other draft picks do makes a huge difference. 
Look at the Clippers--for years they not only didn't get the
all-stars, they couldn't find quality starters. Once they began
to get a decent starting unit on the floor, they got a lot more
competitive. Sacramento consistently drafts high, but they 
always seem to end up with someone like Jim Les starting a bunch
of games. 

Ken B. 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205)
Subject: Re: Alonzo Mourning, greedy SOB
Organization: Bell Northern Research Inc.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:54:17 GMT

In article <1bcftaINNgnd@cs.utexas.edu> wardrb@cs.utexas.edu (Richard Byron Ward) writes:
>In article <07PRB6S3@cc.swarthmore.edu> rbrooks1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Rob Brooks) writes:
>|In article <1992Oct12.131439.477@brtph560.bnr.ca>, markham@brtph600.bnr.ca
>|(Andrew Markham P205) writes:
>|
>|> Now I am growing tired of Alonzo and his agent.  Alonzo won't take $2.1M
>|> and is looking for $2.5M.  Did he forget that just last year, the No. 1 
>|> pick Larry Johnson only got $1.9M (if I'm not mistaken).
>|                     ^^^^
>|
>|That's quite a nice "only."  I wish I only got that kind of money for
>|tossing a ball in a hoop.  Ok, so he was rookie of the year but still...
>|
>Actually, I think he made more than this.  Didn't Larry have some sort of
>bonuses written into his contract so that if he won rookie of the year, he
>would earn pretty spectacular money?  Or was that Kennie Anderson?
>
>Rick

I wouldn't bet my life on it, but the article to which I was referring 
mentioned LJ's salary as being $1.9M.  I know LJ signed a six-year, $20M
contract with the Hornets, and considering how the contracts usually 
grow over time, starting at $1.9M wouldn't be unreasonable.

-- 
Andrew W. Markham (markham@bnr.ca)
Bell Northern Research, Inc.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: jwalsh@world.std.com (Joseph P Walsh)
Subject: nba.c
Keywords: nba.c
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 16:24:47 GMT

could someone send me a copy of the 1992-1993 nba.c

thanks
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205)
Subject: Re: Idiots-Don't Post
Organization: Bell Northern Research Inc.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:22:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.090542.19133@cs.ucla.edu> lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent Lange) writes:
>In article <5968@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu> wp01jst1@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (John Tomas) writes:
>>
>>Should you think that Jordan respects Magic; you are right; he does.
>>If you think he is afraid of him ... I suggest a look at the NBA finals
>>of a couple of years ago, where in spite of a great series by Magic,
>>Michael simply outplayed him, convincingly, just as he did to Clyde
>>last year.
>
>Actually, if you recall, though Jordan had a good series, he didn't
>school Johnson or the injury-plagued Lakers.  John Paxson did.

As far as I remember, Jordan did school 'em.  Paxson was unconscious during
the last half of the final game.  It was absolutely beautiful.  At the
end of the game, we were yelling "PAXSON FOR MVP, PAXSON FOR MVP"!!!

A couple of guys got mad because they were big Jordan fans (as if I'm not)
and were trying to convince us that Jordan should be MVP...What a couple
of boneheads, of course Jordan is MVP!!!

Does anyone have the stats from the '91 championship series?  I could
have sworn that Jordan out-assisted, out-rebounded, and out-scored Magic
(sounds like a school to me)...

>Little shit.
>
>(I'm not bitter.)
>
>- Trent Lange

Then you'll really love this year :^) :^)


GO PIRATES!!!


-- 
Andrew W. Markham (markham@bnr.ca)
Bell Northern Research, Inc.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro,rec.sport.football.pro,rec.sport.baseball
From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: WEEKLY POSTING: Data available for public FTP
Originator: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Las Hermanas de Nuestra Senora de los Pepinares
Distribution: net
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 09:00:14 GMT

If you are interested in stats, records and schedules of major league
sports, please read the following announcement:

There is a bunch of NBA, NFL and MLB data -- stats, records, game scores,
schedules, etc (INCLUDING 1992/93 schedules!) -- available for public
FTP on wuarchive.wustl.edu.  (Also known as ftp.wustl.edu, internet
address 128.252.135.4).  You can access the data through anonymous FTP.
To do so, type:
	ftp wuarchive.wustl.edu
and then enter "anonymous" as the user-id, and your e-mail address
as the password.  Once in there, switch to the directory of your
choice.  The directories are:
	Football (NFL) -- /pub/nfl
	Basketball (NBA) -- /doc/misc/nbastats/facts
	Baseball (MLB) -- /doc/misc/sports/mlb
The directories contain README files with details about contents
and sub-directories. 

The details of the FTP program may be system-dependent.  If in
doubt, consult your system administrators.  (But don't bother
asking me -- I probably don't know.)

Enjoy!

					Gidi


PS: The baseball stuff is maintained by Kurt Bose (kbos@carina.unm.edu).
I created the football directory, but I don't maintain it -- it is
unprotected and free for all.  The NBA directory was created for the
NBASTATS project, as detailed in the README files, and I maintain the
FACTS subdirectory.  In general, you should be able to access the data
without contacting any of us.

PSS:  Lots of thanks to Washington University at St. Louis.
From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Questions
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:10:43 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

rbd@flash.ece.uc.edu (Bobby Davis) writes:

>I have two picks left in my simulated hoops league draft and
>would like information on any of the following questions:

>(1) Is Terry Cummings out for the year?  Or will he come back
>	in midseason?  (I heard he had major knee surgery.)

	From the info given in most sources, Cummings will be out for the
	entire season.  If he does come back, he's not going to be recovered
	enough to be worth drafting in your league...

>(2) How is Dominique Wilkins progressing?  I already own 'Nique
>	and may draft his backup as insurance.  Who will be his
>	backup?  Volkov?

	Apparently 'Nique has come along fine.  His backup -- who ended up
	starting most of the time last year -- is Duane Ferrell.  He'd be
	a solid pickup.

>(3) How has Todd Day looked for the Bucks in training camp?  Or
>	is he even signed yet?

	Day hasn't signed yet.

>(5) Who has the inside track to start at point guard for the Spurs?

	You're looking at Vinny Del Negro to start for the Spurs.  For
	backup, they have Willie Anderson (who can switch over at times)
	and good 'ol Ennis Whatley.

>(6) Has JR Reid done anything so far in camp to show that drafting
>	him wasn't a horrible decision?  How about Gattison?  I
>	guess what I'd really like to know is about how many
>	minutes the Hornets will give to these guys given that
>	Alonzo signs (I'm sure he eventually will - Mourning in
>	Spain? - come on!).

	If Alonzo signs, either Reid or Gattison will get major minutes
	on the frontline.  There may be the possiblity that LJ may move
	over to SF and let Reid/Gattison play the power slot.  

	Jazzy J
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From: radkel@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Heat sign a few
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:52:28 GMT
Reply-To: radkel@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC


 The Miami Heat signed Kevin Edwards, Keith Askins and George Ackles.
The former two were both restricted free agents, and it's good to see them
sealed & delivered.  Ackles I'm still very skeptical about--from all accounts,
he didn't play all that well this summer, yet the management still likes him.
Why?
  They also came to terms with Matt Geiger, Alan Oggggggggg!, and guard
Carlos Funchess.  Funchess is a super-athletic guard that I remember from
his days at NE Louisiana.  Geiger and Ogg will battle it out for the third
string center spot.  Look for Geiger to win.
  Question: what is the status of Grant Long, Bimbo Coles and Willie Burton?
Have Long & Coles been signed yet? And is Burton recovered from his depression
yet? His absence would leave the Heat dangerously thin at SF, especially since
they traded away Isaiah Morris.  

--Rob Clough
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: ellie@ora.com (Ellie Cutler)
Subject: Don McLean
Organization: O'Reilly & Associates, Inc.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:24:14 GMT

Dave Gavitt, take heart!  The Clippers traded UCLA's Don MacLean, along
with William Bedford, to the Washington Bullets for malcontent PF John
Williams.  Guess the Clips were looking for some beef. The AP wire kept
listing McLean as a center, but we know he's a forward - and, more
importantly, a Gugliotta clone (of sorts).  This means that Washington
can now send Gugs, who they have been unable to sign, to Boston for
Kevin Gamble (rumor started here!)

Anybody else think the Clippers are starting to look pretty good?
Williams, Norman, Manning, Vaught, and Big Stanley give some punch
up front.  But who do they have in their backcourt besides Jackson
and Randy Woods?  I know they've been thinking about picking up John
Bagley.
-- 
        Ellie Cutler

        ellie@ora.com               
        uunet!ora!ellie
From: bramsey@npal.rn.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: PACERS,PACERS,PACERS
Date: 12 Oct 92 10:56:04 GMT
Organization: PalNet -- Indianapolis, Indiana

r IF anyone thinks the bulls are going to win another one your in for a shock.
the Indiana pacers are going to have  a 65 win season and kill the bulls in the
post season.

bramsey@npal.rn.com

n