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From: lars@spectrum.CMC.COM (Lars Poulsen)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Can I upgrade a 16450 uart to a 16550a?
Date: 7 Jan 93 21:14:41 GMT
Organization: CMC Network Systems (Rockwell DCD), Santa Barbara, CA, USA

In article <1993Jan7.152939.28987@wam.umd.edu>
   joel@wam.umd.edu (Joel M. Hoffman) writes:
>I just purchased a high speed modem (14.4K from Boca) for my Dell
>325D.  ... Dell ... uart ... turns out it's a 16450.  ... I'm losing
>char.s with high-speed transfers, especially with a loaded machine
>...
>Is it possible to upgrade the 16450 to a 16550a?  
>...
>[I tried asking the representative a Dell, but, when he answer my
>question of "What kind of uart is in the machine" with "You have a
>VLSI chip," I gave up.]

The answer is that you don't have a 16450 UART - you have a simulation
of one (or two) on a custom-made chip, probably together with a parallel
port. You are stuck with what you have.

If you are only going to use the modem with the PC, it would have been
cheaper to disable the serial port that you are now using, and
installing an internal modem instead. It would have had the buffering
built in ...

Better luck next time !!
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: rodney@tyrell.tynet.sub.org (Rodney Volz)
Subject: Re: ZyXEL voice and flow control
Keywords: ZyXEL voice flow control
Organization: Tyrell, Stuttgart (FRG)
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1993 18:30:46 GMT

In article <rkimball.726258443@athena> rkimball@athena.qualcomm.com (Robert Kimball) writes:
>>1.) Proper RTS/CTS flowcontrol in voice mode
>>2.) Reliable DTMF recognition
>>3.) Reliable at&d3 mode (*really* hangup on DTR->low)
>>4.) Adjustable volume gain in voice mode
>
>One more thing I would add to the list, this one really annoys me...
>
>5.) Recognize and report DTMF while transmitting voice.  This is really needed
>    for proper voice mail so that while playing your greeting the call can
>    enter DTMFs to get to a mailbox, without having to listen to the entire
>    greeting.

Although working not very reliably, this is already supported in 5.02
ROMs. Anyway, I considered this problem to be included under item 3).

-Rodney
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From: wbe@bbn.com (Winston Edmond)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Where to buy the Zyxel modems, CHEAP
Date: 12 Jan 93 03:04:00
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman, Inc., Cambridge, MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: crystal.bbn.com
In-reply-to: mmannan@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu's message of Tue, 12 Jan 1993 04:52:04 GMT

mmannan@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Mohammed Mannan) asks:
   Please email or post the phone numbers of places which give a good
   deal on Zyxel modems. I have gone through 700 messages in this
   newsgroup but could not find the FAQ.

I just sent him the list at the end of the ZyXEL FAQ message of December 31.
This posting is to save everyone else from sending the same reply.
 -WBE
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: urakawa@lynx.cs.washington.edu (Bryan Urakawa)
Subject: Twincom 96/42i
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering Dept., Univ. of Washington, Seattle
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 07:43:36 GMT

[ Article crossposted from misc.forsale.computers.d ]
[ Author was Bryan Urakawa ]
[ Posted on Wed, 6 Jan 93 07:36:50 GMT ]

Maybe someone can help me with this...

	My modem (an internal twincom 96/42i) tells me to lock the com port 
at 38400, which I do and have been doing for the last year.  During this
time, I have had no problems with file transfers, up until lately.  
Lately, I have had numerous errors in transferring files and in drawing
the screen in general.  The screen problems have pretty much always been
around though.  The screen problem is that I get only part of what is 
supposed to be there, such as part of an ansi-type code, and there is
some garbage on the screen.  The modem manual says:  it is a V.32 9600 bps
internal data modem.  It employs an asynchronous PARALLEL interface and 
emulates a 16C450 UART to the host computer.  The problem does get a little
bit better if I lower the port speed to 19200.  I have used more than one
comm program with this also (i.e., Procomm+, Telix).  Help me please, the
warranty runs out at the end of January.

Bryan

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: wolfgang@netcom.com (Wolfgang Henke)
Subject: Re: Digicom Scout+ plug and play??!
Organization: Netcom
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 07:20:08 GMT

Eric Forbis (forb0004@student.tc.umn.edu) wrote:
: >It seems to me that your Scout+ internal is not connecting correctly to
: >your computer. When you switch the power of your computer on after the
: >modem installation, what happens to the LED on the modem card? Does it
: >blink for about one second and then go OFF? Otherwise you might want
: >to check for dust in the PC bus slot. A contact spray might help.
: >Then use a program like MSD.EXE to see if your computer sees the serial
: >port. It should report a 16550 AFN on port 2.
: 
: 
: MSD reports the UART. I've since gotton it working, after a fashion. For 
: some unkown reason, I can't run it off port 2, but can run it off port 4. If 
: I switch from port 4 to port 2 while the computer's running, reconfigure the 
: software, port 2 works fine- until I turn it off. When I turn the computer 
: back on, the modem won't respond. I'm leaving it on com port 4 for the time 
: being, but want to find out what's going on. My old Best Data 2400 works 
: fine on com port b.

Just wondering. Are there any other devices configured for com port 2
like for example a mouse, soundblaster or scanner etc? I seem to
remember a similar problem about 2 months ago which was due to a mouse
on the same port.

: The Scout+ came with two fax programs; neither can access the modem, even 
: when it's on com port 4 and is responding to other programs. Strange.

With some modem register settings the fax TSRs will not load. I type
AT&F to the modem from Qmodem in this case and then reload the TSRs.
Also, it might be that you have other TSRs, which might conflict.

: Changing the initialization string is what got things rolling for me; I'm 
: using AT&C1&D2 to start with, then ATZ to recall AT*F3*E9&C1S0=0 from the 
: modem's nonvolatile memory. I know this is clumbsy as all hell, but intend 
: to clean it up. I don't understand why I have to use the string &C1 &D2 (DCD 
: follows normal RS-232, disconnect after DTR loss) when these are the factory 
: values, according to the manual. I was using the initialization string AT&F 
: (fetch factory settings) originally, but it didn't do the magical number for 
: the modem. &C1 &D2 works.

AT&F should set &C1 and &D2. You can check with AT*O and see if they
were set correctly after issuing AT&F. 

: I've been routinely connecting at 14,400 on local BBS's; after years of 
: creeping along at 2400 (230 cps average), it's a bit breathtaking to be 
: _reliably_ downloading at 1,450 cps! The U of Mn's slipserver limits speeds 
: to 9600, but this is a tremendous improvement. I have a feeling that once I 
: get over the port glitch, I'll be a great Scout+ fan.
: 
: Regards
: ---------
: 
: Eric Forbis      forb0004@student.tc.umn.edu
-- 
   _________________________________________________________________________
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: jiml@psg.com (Jim Long)
Subject: Re: A Telebit FAX upgrade FLAME (Was: "Re: WB Fax Upgrade")
Organization: Pacific Systems Group, Portland Oregon US
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:53:59 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.180030.26673@riogrande.cs.tcu.edu> williams@riogrande.cs.tcu.edu (Mark Williams) writes:
>We've seen a lot of flames for Telebit on their modal support of fax vs. data
>calls.  What I haven't seen is anyone mentioning how other manufacturers are
>doing this.  Do any of you have modems that DO perform the switch on incoming
>calls?
>
>Does the USR Courier Dual Standard Fax do it?
>
>Does the Supra Fax?

Supra claims their hardware works, but no one with whom I have corresponded
knows of any software that will work with the Supra for the purpose of
auto-detection of incoming fax or data calls.

I own a ZyXEL 1496E+, which I run under DOS 5.00, and ZyXEL's software
allows me to receive fax or data automatically on the same line.  Under
other OS platforms, you might have to write/modify your fax software to
work.

Wish I could tell you more.  Bottom line, my ZyXEL can distinguish
between fax and data, and the software ZyXEL includes works under DOS.
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: jemartin@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Martin)
Subject: Re: PPI repair charges (Re: PPI Modem...)
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 20:08:28 GMT

In article <Jan.6.10.57.01.1993.5598@pilot.njin.net> birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag) writes:
>aland@informix.com (Colonel Panic) writes:
>
>>The PPI Support rep told me that the current cost is $25.
>>$25 for a modem that lists for $100 and costs about $2 to ship (less than
>>a pound) is NOT trivial.
>>Secondly, I didn't "generalize" this to any other products of theirs.  
>>The support rep I dealt with wouldn't quote me the other repair prices and
>>didn't indicate that the $15/$25 was the same across the product line.
>
>I'll agree that $25 is a bit steep for a $100 modem, yes.  $25 (or $15,
>whichever it is) for my unit (a $400 faxmodem, ouch) wouldn't be surprising
>at all.  I suspect the repair cost is _not_ going to be anywhere near
>proportional to the unit cost.  In the case of your pocket-modem, the fact
>that they're working on somewhat miniaturized technology might have something
>to do with the higher proportional price.

I also agree that $25 is too much for a $100 modem, it seems that PPI
might have a flat rate for return shipping/handling across their whole
line of modems.  I really wouldn't mind putting up $25 in the event my
modem croaks (I got the 14400FX internal for $329), considering I'd likely
be sent a brand-spanking-new one.  However, they wouldn't be justified in
charging (proportionally) more to ship/handle a $100 pocket modem because
they have to repair 'somewhat miniaturized technology', this makes it seem
as if one is paying for warranty repair.

Incidentally, I came across this in my manual: "Most products returned to
Practical Peripherals for repair are found to be in proper working
condition."

btw, I (finally) just ordered the ROM upgrade and updated fax software from
PPI Tech Support.  Will I have to return the old ROM?  And I know someone
mentioned this before (Shag?) but how soon can I expect the upgrade to
arrive?  (I'm not that impatient - just curious!)

Cheers

John
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    Kent, WA     (formerly martin@ups.edu)   SeinfeldSuperSonicsBC++RushDWeckl
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From: westes@smurf.sti.com (Will Estes)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.sys.laptops
Subject: WANTED: 9600 bps v.32/v.32bis/v.42/v.42bis Pocket Modem
Date: 4 Jan 1993 18:46:54 -0800
Organization: Mail Group
NNTP-Posting-Host: smurf.sti.com

I need to get a fast pocket modem for use with a laptop.  If you have a
9600 bps modem with the various v.32/v.42 bells and whistles for sale, please
contact me by mail.  

If you know of any magazine reviews of 9600 bps pocket modems, I would
greatly appreciate the reference.

-- 
Will Estes		Internet: westes@netcom.com
From: Matthias_Stuermer@ka.maus.de (Matthias Stuermer)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Voice/Modem detection with an
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 13:00:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet (Mitglied im IN e.V.)
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.16/hb

j> then determine if the call is a modem (modem goes online) or if it is
j> voice, take a message.

It is possible, but not very well. It depends on your preferences. If you want
to have an answering machine, than you can wait for some voice. If theres
nothing (silence detect) you can try it with a data connection.

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: jeffz@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (JeffZ)
Subject: Source for ZyXEL modems?
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:57:28 GMT

Could someone tell me where to find the best deal on a ZyXEL 1496s series 
modem?  I would love to have one, new or used... any suggestions?

Jeff

jeffz@cybernet.cse.fau.edu     !   yoyodyne@mindvox.phantom.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: gally@barsoom.network.com (Jerry Gally)
Subject: anybody own a PC Logic 14.4 faxmodem ?
Originator: gally@barsoom
Organization: Network Systems Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 19:04:24 GMT

I recently mail-ordered a PC Logic 14.4 Faxmodem and found that
on some connections I was unable to download more than 20,000 bytes
because my software would abort the transfer with the statement
"excessive CRC errors" (using ZMODEM via Procomm Plus).

Anybody out there have a reliable PC Logic 14.4 Faxmodem ????
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: lapin@lapin@iemend.ih.att.com (Marie A. Roch)
Subject: Experience with Infotel GF9696 14.4?
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:40:06 GMT


Hello,

	Has anyone had any experiences with the Infotel GF9696
14.4 Kbps Fax Modem?  

					Thank you,
					Marie
					marie.roch@att.com
From: scott.frazee@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Scott Frazee) 
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: AT&T SYSOP PROGRAM
Date: 5 Jan 93 09:51:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: HAL 9000 BBS, W-NET HQ, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Reply-To: scott.frazee@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Scott Frazee) 

ATTENTION SYSOPS!!!

Largo, Florida - New Year's resolutions ...  At some point and
time we've all made them -- only to break the resolution in the
weeks to come.  Some people want to lose weight.  Some want to
make better use of their time.  Still others want to become more
productive.  Unfortunately, I can't help with weight loss.  I
can, however, increase your productivity and help you make better
use of your time.

How?  The AT&T DataPort 14.4/Fax high-speed fax modem.  That's
how.  Spend less time on-line.  Gather larger amounts of
information in far shorter time.  Cut your long distance costs.
Send and receive faxes.  These are but a few of the ways that you
can make the DataPort Fax/modem woror y

Since the beginning of AT&T Paradyne's Sysop Discount Pricing
Program, we have been literally swamped with calls: some for
information, some technical questions, and a great number of
people ordering the modems.  For this we thank you.

We at AT&T Paradyne recognize the commitment that you, as a
systems operator, have put into your service.  The Sysop Discount
Pricing Program emphasizes our commitment to you.

What do mean by "our commitment to you" as a sysop.  Unlimited
TOLL FREE technical support.  A limited LIFETIME WARRANTY on the
DataPort modem.  Quite simply, AT&T Paradyne is not going to
short you on service.  Period.

How about price?  Under the Sysop Discount Pricing Program, the
AT&T DataPort 14.4/Fax modem's price is in the low $200 range --
a far cry from our competitors' offerings.  Unfortunately, the
prices for the sysop program will be going up slightly as of
February 1 -- so get in on a good thing NOW.

To receive more information on the DataPort and/or to receive an
order form, please leave me e-mail (on any Unix based system such
as Usenet, Internet, etc.) at:  S.FRAZEE@PDNIS.PARADYNE.COM
As this is a new account, if you do not receive a response within
48 hours, please leave me e-mail at:  SCOTT.FRAZEE@HAL9K.ANN-
ARBOR.MI.US (Usenet; include the "-" between Ann Arbor)

If you prefer, you may fax your request to: (813) 530-2398.  One
last way to get hold of me is to drop me a letter in the mail.
Please send your requests to:  AT&T Paradyne, c/o Scott Frazee --
Sysop Discount Pricing Program, Mailstop LG219, 8545 126th Avenue
North, Largo, Florida, 34649-2826.

Scott Frazee
AT&T Paradyne

PS: Not a Sysop?  Don't despair.  Drop me a line and I'll send
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From: bill@solaria (Bill Neisius)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Digicom & Software, etc.
Date: 8 Jan 93 03:34:03 GMT
Reply-To: bill@solaria.hac.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Graham Allan (alla0008@student.tc.umn.edu) wrote:
: In article <C0GMwr.KF4@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> sl313028@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (gee i'm happy) writes:
: 
: >I have to use 2400baud for a connection to my school computer (yes, it
: >sucks!), and i got the 14.4K modem...two comm programs that i'm using,
: >Softerm for Windows and Crosstalk Communicator (I haven't tried it on my
: >Softerm 4 OS/2, but will probably get the same problem), give me a jerky
: >screen when i am using the modem at slower speeds.  I didn't have this
: >problem with my first modem, a 2400baud modem.  am i stuck with jerky
: >screens, or is there a way to fix this problem (via software,
: >preferrably)?  
: 
: Your new modem is probably connecting with MNP error correction; this
: sends and recieves data in blocks which results in the jerky screens you
: see. You can 'fix' the problem by disabling error correction, if you like
: (I do find the jerky behaviour at 2400 baud annoying, on good lines I
: prefer to drop the error correction and take my chances...).
: 
: Graham

I think it's the MNP5 compression, not the error correction that's causing
the problem.  If the host computer is only running at 2400 baud, it can't
keep up with the compressed connection, and gaps result.  The best solution
would be to raise the baud rate at the host end to 4800 to actually take
advantage of the compression.

On the other hand, it's probably impossible to get the system people to
change the port/modem parameters... so try disabling the MNP5 compression
on the Scout with AT*E3.  This will give you 'Auto reliable MNP4' (error
correction), without MNP5 (compression).


Bill Neisius
bill@solaria.hac.com
From: chris.lambertus@uttsbbs.uucp (Chris Lambertus) 
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: USR SPORTSTER ROM WRITE
Date: 3 Jan 93 18:56:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591
Reply-To: chris.lambertus@uttsbbs.uucp (Chris Lambertus) 

Is anyone familiar the Rom write command for the USR Sportster?  I need
to know how to use it, or indeed, if it still exists in the rom 4.2
version...please be specific.  Information on the "g" command would be
helpful, too.

cmlambertus@ucdavis.edu
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From: jeh@cmkrnl.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,biz.comp.telebit
Subject: How does WB handle incoming fax vs. data calls?
Date: 7 Jan 93 03:40:44 GMT
Followup-To: comp.dcom.modems
Organization: Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego, CA

I'm curious about one detail of the FAX modem implementation.  For outbound
calls (sending faxes) the local computer obviously knows whether it's sending
a fax or sending data, and so can put the modem in the appropriate mode before
making the call.  

However, for inbound calls... Suppose I connect one of these modems to my VMS
or Unix system.  If the modem gets a call from a data modem, I want this to be
routed to a login process on my machine, so that the remote user (or uucp host,
or whatever) can log in and do work.  But if it gets a call from a FAX modem,
this won't work.  No way is the remote FAX going to know how to log in to my
machine. 

I can see it working for FAX if I set up a serial port on my machine as a
"dedicated FAX data" port, with a FAX receiver process always listening on that
port... but if the modem is connected to that port, the modem can't be used for
data calls. 

How does Telebit address this???

	--- Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego CA
drivers, internals, networks, applications, and training for VMS and Windows-NT
uucp 'g' protocol guru and release coordinator, VMSnet (DECUS uucp) W.G., and 
Chair, Programming and Internals Working Group, U.S. DECUS VMS Systems SIG 
Internet:  jeh@cmkrnl.com, hanrahan@eisner.decus.org, or jeh@crash.cts.com
Uucp:  ...{crash,eisner,uunet}!cmkrnl!jeh
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: sl313028@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (gee i'm happy)
Subject: Re: Digicom & Software, etc.
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:31:38 GMT

In article <725220483.F00001@tdkt.kksys.com> Scott.Fisher@f62.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Scott Fisher) writes:
>RM>Delrina Dosfax and Winfax FAX software.  However, Software, etc. has
>RM>put their own cover on the product and has replaced the Delrina FAX
>RM>software with the BitFAX FAX software.  I don't know anything about
>                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Hi Ray,
...stuff deleted...
> thing.... by the way it works great!
it SURE DOES!!!! i can't see how i lived without it, & the
price...WOW!!!
since i'm posting, i really wanted to ask this question, however...
I have to use 2400baud for a connection to my school computer (yes, it
sucks!), and i got the 14.4K modem...two comm programs that i'm using,
Softerm for Windows and Crosstalk Communicator (I haven't tried it on my
Softerm 4 OS/2, but will probably get the same problem), give me a jerky
screen when i am using the modem at slower speeds.  I didn't have this
problem with my first modem, a 2400baud modem.  am i stuck with jerky
screens, or is there a way to fix this problem (via software,
preferrably)?  

thanx in advance...
-jon everyday remembering Christ
>
>___
> X SLMR 2.1a X Illiterate?  Write for free help!
>
> * Origin: The Spare Computer (1:282/62)


Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: abbott@ms.uky.edu (Joel Abbott)
Subject: Re: Dallas Fax
Keywords: dallas, rockwell
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:17:50 GMT
Organization: The Jimi Hendrix Fan Club

gjjr@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Joseph Riolo) writes:
>Hi Modem fans, does anyone have any thing to say about a Dallas Fax Extermal
>14.4k Fax/Modem ???  The chipset is Rockwell, and the Bios version is 1.200!
>I have heard that anything less than a Bios version of 1.270 will have
>problems Can anyone confirm that??  Thanks ALL!!

my opinion is:  if you want to leave the modem unattended, by all means
do not get this modem.  ours constantly gets hung in a strange state
that can only be fixed by power-cycling.  if you are going to use it
for dialing out and don't mind a sometimes finicky v.32bis modem
(although cheap), then it may be ok.

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems