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From: wasser@ranger.enet.dec.com (ranger::wasser)
Subject: PATHWORKS has everything you need...
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 05:02:45 GMT
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> I'm looking at getting pathworks for one or more of our PCs ...  
> I'd like to be able to use the PCs as X-terminals.

	PATHWORKS for DOS V4.1 includes PC DECwindows Motif V4.1
	which is a DOS-based X Window System Server (that is a
	"display server", a.k.a. X Terminal).

> Now, one of the *major* requirements is that there should be a good
> VT terminal emulation.  

	I'm not sure I understand your requirement.  Do you want a DOS-
	based VT terminal emulator or do you want an X Windows application
	to emulate a VT terminal in an X Window server session?  With
	a X Server like PC DECwindows Motif you can use DECterm on VMS
	and Ultrix hosts for VT terminal emulation.

	PATHWORKS for DOS comes with a DOS-based VT terminal emulator
	and an MS-Windows based terminal emulator as well as the 
	X Window System server.

> The PCs have mostly LK250 keyboards (one has an LK450).   Does the pathworks 
> terminal emulator product handle these keyboards without problem (like 
> `missing' or nonfunctional keys)? 

	I know PC DECwindows Motif handles the LK250 as you would
	expect.  On the LK450 the new "Esc" key acts the same as
	the PF1 key (same key code) and the new Right Alt and Right 
	Control keys act like the Left Alt and Left Control keys.
	The LK450 specification was still changing as PATHWORKS for 
	DOS V4.1 was shipped.

	I believe the PATHWORKS terminal emulators handle the LK250
	just fine.  I don't know what problems you might encounter
	with the LK450.

> Are there other terminal emulators available that can run on top of 
> PATHWORKS and give good terminal emulation with a full DEC keyboard?

	You might want to see what you get free with PATHWORKS
	before planning to spend more money.  A third-party
	X Window System Server (X Terminal Emulator) will probably
	cost as much as the entire PATHWORKS for DOS license!

				-John A. Wasser
				 Project Leader
				 PC DECwindows Motif V4.1
From: MARTINHER@URVAX.BITNET (HERB MARTIN)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: Leverage for NetWare?
Date: 2 Sep 92 06:20:00 GMT
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>From: "Themistoklis I. Pentakalos" <MIS5000@UMBCADMN.BITNET>
>Subject:RE: Leverage for NetWare?
>Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 11:24:00 EST
>Message-ID:<A86F953CE0206619@UMBCADMN.BITNET>
 
>>
>>Why not use DEC's Product for connecting Novell to Pathworks.
>>
>
>        HA HA HA!
>
>        Actually, "Netware Coexistence", the product refered to above,
>is not that bad. It's just that some times it has a mind of its own.
>
>        But apart from "Netware Coexistence" and "Interconnections",
>why don't you wait a couple of months until DEC comes out with the
>"Pathworks for Netware" product? Isn't that supposed to replace
>"Netware Coexistence" ?
>
>        bye.
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From: lane@duphy4.physics.drexel.edu
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: pathworks x-term emulators & keyboards
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:22:07 GMT
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Organization: Drexel University Physics

I'm looking at getting pathworks for one or more of our PCs ...  so
please pardon the naive questions.

I'd like to be able to use the PCs as X-terminals.

Now, one of the *major* requirements is that there should be a good
VT terminal emulation.  The PCs have mostly LK250 keyboards (one has
an LK450).   Does the pathworks terminal emulator product handle these
keyboards without problem (like `missing' or nonfunctional keys)? Are
there other terminal emulators available that can run on top of Pathworks
and give good terminal emulation with a full DEC keyboard?

Unfortunately, the vendor of our serial-line terminal emulator package
(KEA) doesn't make x-windows products. :-(

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From: acube@eecg.toronto.edu (Aditya Aggarwal)
Subject: Conference on Networking
Organization: University of Toronto
Distribution: na
Date: 23 Aug 92 19:50:58 GMT





	                      CONFERENCE
				
				 ON

                         COMPUTER NETWORKING
                    


			 Dates Dec. 10&11 1992

			  

			      Venue

                            Gajjar Hall
			    Law Garden
			     Ahmedabad
			       India

				BY
                       IEEE  COMPUTER SOCIETY
			     GUJARAT



Papers are invited on networking......


Last Dates
   

   For receipts of Abstracts Sept. 15th.
   Intimation of Acceptance  Sept. 30th.
   Receipt of Full Paper     Oct.  30th.


   e-mail No  for further information ieee@iimahd.ernet.in

   Fax No.    91 272 05381
From: BACHISM@JHUDEV.DEV.JHU.EDU (PC Buff)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: *** Xircom Pocket Ethernet II Adapter problems.
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:56:38 GMT
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Just had a similar problem with the External Xircom adapter -- My problem
occurred at different spots each time.  I had to stop loading LAT, LAST, and
LANSESS.  This was with Pathworks 4.0.  Not sure if it has anything to do with
your problem but its worth a shot.
From: aas@stan.xx.swin.oz.au (SERGEJEW A)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: PW coexistence with LANtastic?
Date: 2 Sep 92 04:37:20 GMT
Organization: Computer Centre, Swinburne University of Tech., Melbourne, Australia.

Hi.

I have just joined this Department which has lots of nice printers and
plotters accessable under LANtastic, but would also like to maintain
my current PCSA and pcnfs stacks (using ndis and some shims).

The netbios support in DNP converts netbios calls to something that
other nodes in DECnet can handle, but there's no support for straight
PC peer-to-peer netbios there.

Has anyone any idea how to add a dinkum netbios stack (preferably one that
doesn't trip over the PCSA redirector) or any other ideas for having
coexisting LANtastic NOS on this PC?

If there's any interest I'd gladly post a summary.

Thanks in anticipation
Alex
From: chiam@VULCAN.CBA.OHIOU.EDU (Ta Fuh Chiam)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: Installing Pathworks for VMS on Mac
Date: 24 Aug 92 19:42:00 GMT
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>> A very nice feature that I really like, really. Except that LocalTalk is too
>> slow and can't take a big load.
>
>Although it is true that the bandwidth of LocalTalk is not that of
>Ethernet, you should be aware that the AppleTalk-LAT Gateway provides to
>those Macs on LocalTalk a speed performance which is above and beyond that
>of a LAT terminal server with serial lines running at 9600 baud.
 
True, but don't forget that that is a shared bandwidth with all the LocalTalk
traffic and that the 9600 baud on the terminal server is only the keyboard to
the terminal server. WIth just LAT usage, it is probably fine but with lots of
users doing lots of AppleTalk traffic on the LocalTalk, it will slow down a
little.
 
Ta Fuh Chiam
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From: DAVISM@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Michael T. Davis)
Subject: Pathworks (Mac) API docs
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:04:23 GMT


	Is there any documentation available so that VAX programmers can
utilize the various AppleTalk-related protocols on the VAX?  For example, if
a VAX programmer wanted to write a symbiont to use PAP, is there a book to
reference?

							Thanks,
							 Mike
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From: CF0@PSUALT.BITNET (Craig Farrell)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: LAT network cards for HP printers
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:44:00 GMT
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Original_To:  PCSA

I'm looking for companies that might have network cards for HP
laser printers that support LAT?  I talked to HP recently and
they would not confirm or deny working on such a product.
 
       Craig Farrell                       Penn State Altoona Campus
       CF0@PSUALT.bitnet                   225 CLRC Building
       (814) 949-5295                      Altoona PA,  16601
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Subject: RE: Leverage for NetWare?
From: bachism <BACHISM@JHUDEV.DEV.JHU.EDU>
Date: 28 Aug 1992 16:21:54 -0400
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Why not use DEC's Product for connecting Novell to Pathworks.
From: ckw0@aber.ac.uk (Carl Keri Williams)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Accounting (printer use)
Summary: method of per user printer use accounting required
Keywords: printer accounting
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:51:39 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth


Hi, I'm new to this group, so apologies if this is a FAQ, but I'd appreciate
it if anyone could give me any advice on keeping track of accounting 
information for individual users or groups of Pathworks users. In particular
I'm interested in keeping a per-user tally of print jobs submitted by DOS
users, and there doesn't appear to be any straightforward way to do this.
(although the normal VMS accounting seems to catch Pathworks logins?)

Thanks in advance for any help with this,

Carl 

(E-mail replies to carl@uk.ac.lampeter rather than this Aber address for 
preference, please - I'll summarise if there's enough interest)
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From: dfisher@AIS.UCS.SFU.CA (Dale Fisher)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: Zenith 286 & Above Board
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:30:13 GMT
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We had a similiar experience with Intel boards, set the io address of the networ
k
card to 380.  Otherwise, the intel card thinks its a version of an Intel card,
and waits for a response when its trying to find all the Intel cards on the
machine.  380 is the recognized IBM standard io address for a network card which
it seems to respect.
From: HANKES@UCS.UWPLATT.EDU
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Zenith and EtherWORKS Turbo problems.
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:04:00 GMT
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        I am having problems installing a DEC EtherWORKS Turbo board in a
Zenith Z386SX Model ZMV-3727-EK with 2MB of memory. I am wondering if anyone
else has seen the following symtoms or have any ideas.
 
        After I installed the ethernet board in the Zenith PC and powered it up
the PC hangs, never gets gets past the POST. When I remove the card the PC
works fine. I have tried every conceivable combination of interupts, memory
addresses, and I/O addresses and the PC always hangs up with the card
installed. I have tried another identical card with the same result.
 
        I don't know if this helps, but inside the case their are diagnostic
LED's that are supposed to go off during the boot proccess. It is always
hanging on the RAM LED.
 
        Has anyone experienced this problem? Any suggestions would be very much
appreciated. Zenith was not aware of any problems.
 
Stephan C. Hankes                       hankes@uwplatte.edu
Hardware Technician
UW Platteville                          hankes@uwplatt.edu
Platteville, WI.
From: hogstedt@ae.chalmers.se (Per Hogstedt)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Re: username and password variable storage.
Date: 31 Aug 92 06:52:22 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Applied Electronics. Chalmers Univ. of Technology.

In article <1992Aug30.141514.1@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu>, jpeterse@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu writes:
> Some time ago, there was a thread about storing username and password within a
> logon session so that other services could be accessed without the user haveing
> to keep reentering them.  I didn't think that would be important to me, and so
> I did not retain the information.  Now, we are setting up a student laboratory
> and each machine will be used by many people.  Thus, how do I go about making
> it so that the student need only enter his username and password once per logon
> session?  Ideas?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> jpeterse@thiele.che.wsu.edu

Since I assume that security is of some concern, I'd strongly advice you not
to use environment variables for storing user id and password other than 
for intermediate storage. Here's what we do:
- Get the users username (Batch routine or whatever), store it in e.g. TMP_ID
- Make shure the characters does not echo (if using a batch-routine you can let
  forground=background color)
- Get the password, store in env. var TMP_PSW
- In a batch routine use:
	NCP DEFINE NODE nodename USER %TMP_ID% PASSWORD %TMP_PSW% ...
  for all the nodes that the student needs access to.
- Clear the TMP's by SET TMP_ID= and SET TMP_PSW=

Note that this does not help the students when starting a terminal session
using SETHOST or VT320, it will only help when connecting to various services.
Also, make shure the database is purged when the PC is booted, otherwise
someone will discover very soon that they can use the previous users id :-(

Good luck,
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From: aas@stan.xx.swin.oz.au (SERGEJEW A)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: PW with LANtastic?
Date: 2 Sep 92 04:31:36 GMT
Organization: Computer Centre, Swinburne University of Tech., Melbourne, Australia.

I have just joined this Department which has lots of nice printers and
plotters accessable under LANtastic, but would also like to maintain
my current PCSA and pcnfs stacks (using ndis and some shims).

The netbios support in DNP converts netbios calls to something that
other nodes in DECnet can handle, but there's no support for straight
PC peer-to-peer netbios there.

Has anyone any idea how to add a dinkum netbios stack (preferably one that
doesn't trip over the PCSA redirector) or any other ideas for having
coexisting LANtastic NOS on this PC?

If there's any interest I'd gladly post a summary.

Thanks in anticipation
Alex
From: tnnrtg@tnb.phys.tue.nl (Tonnie Geraets)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Re: bug in eXcursion server. (access list)
Date: 3 Sep 92 08:04:28 GMT
Reply-To: tnnrtg@ctrl.phys.tue.nl
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology - NL

crokerg@topaz.ucq.edu.au writes:

>Anyone know if there is a fix about for eXcursion. The Access list with version
>1.0 allows anyone to take a snap shot of your screen (using either tcp/decnet
>transports) with xwd, with an empty access list!!!

>Did i install this product wrong???
>Is this a known bug. ??

This isn't a bug, it's a feature :)

The online help (in the access dialog) states exactly that. If you want to
restrict access you'll have to specify the hosts which should be allowed to
access the server.

So:
If no access is disallowed from all hosts, don't run eXcursion.
If access is allowed from a limited list of hosts, specify those hosts.
If access is allowed from all hosts, don't specify anything at all.

-Tonnie

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From: MARTINHER@URVAX.BITNET (HERB MARTIN)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: bug in eXcursion server. (access list)
Date: 2 Sep 92 06:27:00 GMT
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>Anyone know if there is a fix about for eXcursion. The Access list with version
>1.0 allows anyone to take a snap shot of your screen (using either tcp/decnet
>transports) with xwd, with an empty access list!!!
>
>Did i install this product wrong???
>Is this a known bug. ??
>
>Any info greatly appreciated.
>
>Looks like I'm not using this product, as people can rip off my screen!!
 
I don't think that you did anything wrong.  There is a new version releasing
shortly.
 
Also, there is a bug (DEC did not know the extent) that prevents compiling
keysyms maps while SHARE is running.  Since Microsoft recommends Share
with Windows and REQUIRES it when running the new MS Mail client this is
serious.  I have to reboot to unload share, fix the key mapping, and then
reboot again to restore Share and my Mail connection.
 
Also DEC, decided that when you choose DEC style mapping you did not
REALLY mean that, and that you would really prefer the 6 grey movement
keys to do their IBM named functions.  I want it to act like an VT220
keyboard as much as is possible.  I know the keys by position and the
names don't really translate all that well anyway.
 
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From: CF0@PSUALT.BITNET (Craig Farrell)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Lastest smartdrv and disk services
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:42:00 GMT
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Original_To:  PCSA

Can anyone tell me if one should allow smartdrv to cache disk
service drives?  When I load smartdrv it sees the four
disk services and uses cache on them.
 
       Craig Farrell                       Penn State Altoona Campus
       CF0@PSUALT.bitnet                   225 CLRC Building
       (814) 949-5295                      Altoona PA,  16601
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: PATHWORKS DOS 4.1A
From: Gregg Pentecost X6228 IC44 <PENTECOST@BROOK.BITNET>
Date: 26 Aug 1992 14:20:05 -0400
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I just upgraded to Pathworks for DOS/client 4.1A (update disk 1
#AK-PK2EC-BK) and ran netsetup on my PC.  It really messed up my
CONFIG.SYS!!!  Deleted QEMM, SETVER, all REMs, etc.  Looked like the only
thing left was what NETSETUP puts in it.  Before, the only thing NETSETUP
ever deleted from CONFIG.SYS was the device driver for Digitals SCSI
drives, which made it impossible to load the network :-)
 
Has anybody else seen this?  Has anybody else upgraded without this
problem?
 
Thanks.  Gregg.
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Subject: RE: Ethernet adapters for Laptops
From: Kevin Unrue <ae415@YFN.YSU.EDU>
Date: 03 Sep 1992 05:08:13 -0400
Reply-To: ae415@yfn.ysu.edu
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>
>I am looking for recommendations for laptop ethernet adapters to be
>used with Pathworks. The user who needs it gave me an ad for a South
>Hill Datacomm adapter which plugs into the parallel port. Does anyone
>have any experience using this adapter with Pathworks, or are there
>other adapters people would recommend?
>
>Don Katz
>dbk@psl.wisc.edu
>
Xircom makes a similar adapter and it does work well.  HOWEVER, make certain
that the user understands that it is SLOWER.  It cannot perform at the
speed of a NIC installed in a slot.  User expectations must be managed as
carefully as the rest of your network.
 
Kevin Unrue
 
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From: backstrom@ranger.enet.dec.com (ranger::backstrom)
Subject: RE: How to use OLIFIX.COM with remote boot??
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 05:02:06 GMT
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>               HSTAMS@CIPVAX.BIOLAN.UNI-KOELN.DE (Henning Stams)
>                   How to use OLIFIX.COM with remote boot??
>
> lately I received OLIFIX.COM which should fix the problem concerning slow USE
> command together with some BIOSes.
>  As far as I understand this program, it has to be started BEFORE LAD.
> That wouldn't be a problem with a local booting machine. Since we only use
> remote-boot and can't access the load file (depca_h.tsk), how can we manage
> to put this program INTO the remote boot task image?
>
> Did DEC release a utility to access the load file or does a modified load
> file with OLIFIX.COM exist???

    You don't really need OLIFIX, since the BIOS bug fix it works around 
    has been incorporated into later version of USE.EXE.
    
    In other words, get the latest USE.EXE from your Digital Customer
    Support Center (or the DECPCI forum on CompuServe).
    
    You might also want to ask for a remote boot "task" image (i.e.
    the .TSK file you get from the server) with the latest USE.EXE,
    if the delay is a problem at boot time (when the .TSK file does
    a USE to connect to the remote boot keydisk).
    
    ...petri (backstrom@ranger.enet.dec.com)
       Personal Computing Integration Engineering
       Digital Equipment Corporation
From: DYERFDF@HSDWL.UTC.COM (Frank (Chip) Dyer x9568 ..Electrical Design)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: SETHOST scroll vs jump
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:18:18 GMT
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Date sent:  3-SEP-1992 13:15:21
 
Is there a way to change Pathworks (v4.1) SETHOST VT320 terminal emulation
to get a "JUMP" scroll effect as opposed to the "SMOOTH" scroll I have now.
I have searched what little documentation is here, but I can not find anything.
 
 
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Hamilton Standard
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