HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rj0p@northstar65.dartmouth.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: cm outside of OpenWindows?
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:57:52 GMT
Reply-To: rj0p@northstar65.dartmouth.edu (Jim Jacobson (IBM Serv. Rep))
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

I am posting this for a friend:

If a person logs into a SUN from a PC or
a dumb terminal, are there any programs out
there which will let them use the calendar
created by cm ?

How about alternative calendar programs which
have both a reasonable X interface as well as a
dumb terminal interface.  Group scheduling would
be nice.

Thanks for your help.
From: sue@byron.u.washington.edu (Shu-Chen Eclipse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Hints requested on setting up XDM
Date: 29 Jul 92 11:08:43 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


hello,

we currently are accessing arcinfo on a remote sun sparc 4.1.1 file server
via telnet sessions on PC's (using Hummingbird Xceedp and Pc-nfs) and 
tektronix Xp27 tekXpress, and sun remote workstations. We currently run
sunview on the sun workstations, and openwindo 2.0 on the pc's and tektronix's.

We plan to setup XDM instead of telnet for the teks and pc's, then upgrade later
to openwindows 3.0.

Could anybody out there with experience on similar setups give us
pointer, caveates, examples, warnings on problems ecountered and solutions.

What can/will break when XDM goes up? when openwin 3.0 goes up?
what do we need to start changing/prepare to change?

thanx for answering
sue@byron.u.washington.edu
From: brossard@siisun.epfl.ch (Alain Brossard EPFL-SIC/SII)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: popper - Post Office Protocol Server
Date: 27 Jul 92 07:41:45 GMT
Reply-To: brossard@sic.epfl.ch
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

In article <1992Jul24.163427.28213@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>, bogstad@blaze.cs.jhu.edu (Bill Bogstad) writes:
|> 	I've heard rumors in the past that there might be more then one
|> version of 4.1.1 CD-ROM.  This was with reference to the /usr/etc/fuser
|> command which some people don't seem to get on their system even if they ask
|> for everything to be installed.  (I certainly don't seem to have it on my
|> system.)

    There was indeed a 4.1.1B, but there is no significant difference
with 4.1.1.  As for fuser, in 4.1.2, Sun forgot to add the symbolic
link from /usr/etc/fuser to /usr/kvm/fuser.

-- 

Alain Brossard, Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne,
	SIC/SII, EL-Ecublens, CH-1015 Lausanne, Suisse, +41 21 693-2211
brossard@sic.epfl.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: tanm@seneca.bst.rochester.edu (Martin Tanner)
Subject: sparc10 info
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 22:01:05 GMT

Hi,

We are thinking of purchasing a sparc10.  Does anyone have
any experience with the sparc10 which they can share with me?
We plan to integrate the sparc10 into a net with sparc1+'s and
sparc2's running SunOS 4.1.1.  WIll there be any problems 
integrating the sparc10 into the net?  will we have to upgrade
the entire net to solaris 1.1?  I should also mention that
there is a sparcprinter on this net, the file server is a
sparc 2, and the disks are wren 7's.  Any pointers to potential
problems will be appreciated.

Thanks
Martin
From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: DNS & Resolver. Things Sun should do.
Keywords: DNS
Date: 26 Jul 92 23:03:56 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>>By the way - Sun HAS seen the light and all this is much
>>more configurable in Solaris 2.  Resolving is determined by
>>a configuration file, much like on a lot of other machines.
>
>Does this mean that the bug wherein NIS remembers that a DNS lookup
>failed will be fixed?

Well, if "fixed" means "you can change a configuration file and not have
NIS do *any* DNS lookups, by not having NIS do any host name lookup,
period", I believe it'll "fix" it.

If "fixed" means "the behavior of NIS's interface to DNS has changed",
well, no, I don't think it means that the bug will be fixed.  The bug
may well be fixed in Solaris 2, but the change to make name lookup
configurable has, as far as I know, nothing to do with the bug or its
fix; the change isn't in the NIS server, it's in the
host-name-to-host-address lookup routines that are loaded up at run time
(with "dlopen()").
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: jpc@avdms8.msfc.nasa.gov (J. Porter Clark)
Subject: Re: DNS & Resolver. Things Sun should do.
Keywords: DNS
Organization: NASA/MSFC
Date: 29 Jul 92 01:18:06 GMT

mills@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Gary Mills) writes:

>In <jpc.712190285@avdms8.msfc.nasa.gov> jpc@avdms8.msfc.nasa.gov (J. Porter Clark) writes:

>>Does this mean that the bug wherein NIS remembers that a DNS lookup
>>failed will be fixed?  I'm referring to a longstanding problem in which
>>an initial failure of the resolver (perhaps because the response from
>>the nameserver arrived too late) will cause the lookup to fail from
>>that point on.

>I don't see this problem.  After I add a new host to the DNS, I can start
>doing ypmatch on that host, and in five or ten minutes it will appear.
>I assumed this was due to caching by ypserv, which should be a good thing
>because it should reduce traffic between NIS and DNS.

Sure.  If you add a new record to DNS relatively close (in terms of
delay) to the host, you will get a ypmatch.  No problem there.  But
let's say somebody out in some part of the net quite distant to you
adds a new host to his DNS over there.  Now try to ftp to it or ping
it.  Maybe you folks out there have some sort of special relationship
with the Internet somehow, but that DNS lookup is going to take a
little while to ripple through the DNS hierarchy from where I am.
Chances are very good that the first lookup is going to fail for me.
If I wait a few seconds after the first lookup and try again with DiG
or nslookup, it will usually work.  But the problem is, NIS has already
learned from its earlier failure and will never return an IP address
for that hostname until ypserv and ypbind have been restarted.  cd
/var/yp and make will *not* work, either.

This, to me, is a Bug.  I have seen a followup and a reply in which
this was deemed to be desirable or otherwise unavoidable behavior.
How?

I think it's dandy that ypserv caches the data.  But if it gets a
request for a hostname mapping that's not in its cache, it should go to
DNS.  Every time.
--
J. Porter Clark    jpc@avdms8.msfc.nasa.gov or jpc@gaia.msfc.nasa.gov
NASA/MSFC Communications Systems Branch
From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: HELP: Repartioning Disk
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:34:57 GMT
Reply-To: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout

In article <1992Jul24.134508.12946@ncar.ucar.edu> nws@stout.atd.ucar.edu (Eddie Roberts (The National Weather Service)) writes:
<I would like to repartion an external disk attatched to a SUN IPC (SUN 4.1.2).
<The partitions are set up like this now:
<
<	a -	....... 33120  (46/0/0)
<	b -	....... 65520  (91/0/0)
<	c -	....... 828720 (1151/0/0)
<	d -	....... 0      (0/0/0)
<	e -	....... 0      (0/0/0)
<	f -	....... 0      (0/0/0)
<	g -	....... 330480 (459/0/0)
<	h -	....... 399600 (555/0/0)
<
<Currently partion g an h are mounted and contain valuable data. Partion a and b
<are not being used.  I would like to use the partition option of the format command
<and combine these into one partition. According to SUN's documentation this is
<a relatively *safe* and *simple* process. The final step of this procedure is to 
<use the label option of format to update system info.  SUN implies you take a chance
<of losing data (even if the filesystems g abd h are unmounted) using label.
<
<QUESTION: If I unmount g and h , repartion the disk, then relabel it , is there 
<	  really a chance of losing data on partitions g and h?  
<	  NOTE: I can't really back up my system yet.  I am waiting for a tape unit 
<	  that is on order.

You should not have a problem as long as you don't change the starting
position of the g or h partitions.  Change "a" to be the sum by using 137/0/0
as the value for the size of the new "a" partition.  Change "b" to 0.  Label
it and run newfs on the new "a" partition and you should be just fine.
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From: jxh@certes.icd.teradyne.com (Jim Hickstein)
Subject: Re: Crash Dump Analysis
Organization: Teradyne, Inc. Boston MA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:37:48 GMT

In article <1992Jul17.175521.12883@kodak.kodak.com> dennett@sunshine.Kodak.COM (Charlie Dennett) writes:
>Now, I fully realize that reading a crash dump is more black art than
>science.  However, are there any tools out there that may be able to
>take a crash dump and tell someone who does not know the internals of
>the kernel what was happening?

I find that "ps -k" tells me interesting things about what was happening
when the dump was taken.  This might be enough.
-- 
"Neither can His Mind be thought to be in Tune whose Words do Jarre;
 Nor His Reason in Frame whose Sentence is Preposterous."
Jim Hickstein, Teradyne/Attain, San Jose CA, (408) 434-0822 FAX -0252
jxh@icd.teradyne.com   ...!apple!attain!jxh
From: yvent@ntua.gr (Yannis Ventikos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: DNS & Resolver. Things Sun should do.
Keywords: DNS
Date: 25 Jul 92 08:26:23 GMT
Organization: National Technical University of Athens

nicholls@stillcamera.jsc.nasa.gov (nicholls) writes:

>In article <yvent.711983630@theseas> yvent@ntua.gr (Yannis Ventikos) writes:
>>
>>I have been reading the comp.sys.sun.admin newsgroup for a couple of
>>months now ...
>>You can do anything you want on a Sun: run NIS or don't, run primary...
>>yvent@areti.marinentua.ariadne-t.gr
>>yvent@theseas.ntua.gr (news server)

>I wouldn't mind setting up NIS if I knew what the heck it was.
>I recently did a 'grep NIS /usr/man/man?/*' and came up with
>nothing.  If Sun thinks NIS is so great, why isn't it in the manual?

>-just fussing...
>-bill
>nicholls@stillcamera.jsc.nasa.gov


NIS is yellow pages. As for the Sun manuals... Maybe some nice gay should
compile some notes about VFAQ (Very FAQ) and put them in an ftp site or
something.
 
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From: marsella@dartagnan.rutgers.edu (Stacy Marsella)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: sparc 2 noise suppression
Keywords: fan noise
Date: 28 Jul 92 00:57:36 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.admin
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

There are some people here who need to eliminate or reduce the (fan and disk)
noise emanating from their sparc 2 pizza boxes but unfortunately
cannot remove the boxes from the room.  Does anyone have some
good ideas on how to go about this. In particular, I would appreciate
hearing from anyone who has had any practical experience or
information about the likely effectiveness of approaches such as using
acoustic foam, a second enclosure, vertical mounting, ...

Thanks for the help

Stacy Marsella

marsella@cs.rutgers.edu
From: limes@ouroborous.Eng.Sun.COM (Greg Limes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Kernel Config -- Whats the deal with MAXUSERS?
Date: 24 Jul 1992 18:44:08 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ouroborous

In article <mjr.711911236@uther> mjr@uther.calvin.edu (Matt Ranney) writes:
| This chart has puzzled me ever since we got our 4/670.  Why does
| MAXUSERS have to be lower if you have more memory available?

In article <14n2ffINNog@early-bird.think.com> barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin) writes:
| The size of some kernel tables related to memory management are
| proportional to the amount of memory you have.  There are probably some
| per-process data structures that have this property, so the number of
| processes goes down as the total memory goes up.

We Apologise for the Inconvenience.

Details for the curious:

As memory goes up, we allocate more tables for the SRMMU, along with
the normal SunOS bookkeeping. Raising MAXUSERS expands *lots* of tables,
most notibly expanding the "segu" portion of kernel virtual space, which
gets five virtual pages per process.

Also, the limit on how much kernel virtual space is available is
smaller on the Sun-4M boxes, as we have carved some hunks out of
the kernel space.

Oh, I wouldn't advise going over the limits in the table; at
some levels, the symptoms are both ugly *and* delayed.

Fixed in 4.1.3, we lowered the base of the kernel, giving more
overall kernel virtual space. I've been running "maxusers 225"
kernels on the machine in the lab with a gigabyte of memory, and
there is no table space shortage.
From: jc@raven.bu.edu (James Cameron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: rcp crashs machine.
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:40:01 GMT
Organization: What do you mean 'That *can't* be done????'
In-reply-to: stevew@helios.unl.edu's message of 28 Jul 92 20:14:59 GMT

>>>>> "Steve" == Steve Wu <stevew@helios.unl.edu> writes:

  Steve> Nntp-Posting-Host: helios.unl.edu


  Steve>   By an accident I have found that doing rcp to a remote
  Steve> sun's audio port would crash the remote machine. e.g

  Steve>    rcp file host:/dev/audio.

  Steve>   I test this on serverl different sun {sparc2, IPX} and
  Steve> different os {4.1.1, 4.1.2} they all have the same problem.

  Steve>   Does anyone have this problem?

  Steve>   steve


Yes, this occurs here as well on an SS2 running 4.1.1  Was rather
surprised when someone tried to make the computer laugh at me but
instead it crashed. 
--
			-- James Cameron  (jc@raven.bu.edu) (617) 353-2879
					  
    System Manager, Signal Processing and Interpretation Lab.  Boston, Mass  
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From: marquis@well.sf.ca.us (Roger Marquis)
Subject: Re: software patents (was: AT&T vs. BSDI --> 4.3BSD-NET2 distribution ...)
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 15:49:25 GMT

In article <JBW.92Jul31042053@bigbird.bu.edu> jbw@bigbird.bu.edu (Joe Wells) writes:
>Attributing the success of the U.S.A.'s software industry to software
>patents is rather naive.  Software patents do not enhance progress but
>rather retard it.  (For that matter, patents in most industries have an
>overall negative effect on society.)  Software patents are the moral
>equivalent of the doctrine that allowed European countries to claim large
>portions of the New World as their own simply by planting their flag in
>the soil, disregarding the rights of the natives.  If you are not familiar
>with the issues involved, I suggest you read:
>
>Joe Wells <jbw@cs.bu.edu>

Where do you get your ideas Joe, communist Russia?  The history and
logic behind the patent/copyright concept is well established.  Any
history or business major knows that.  That's not to say that the laws
don't get abused.  Clearly the present laws, as they apply to
software, need to be brought up to date.  But any intelligent person
could see that there would be no incentive to develop software if
anyone else could simply copy your code, unique idea, whatever and
distribute it themselves.  When AT&T (and Apple and Ashton-Tate) abuse
the system consumers like us have the responsibility to boycott and
take them to court.  Simply dismissing the patent/copyright system 
wholesale makes no sense.

Roger (marquis@well.sf.ca.us)

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From: etsiao@joule (Eddie Tsiao)
Subject: Re: Yet another naive partitioning question
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:36:18 GMT

In article <1992Jul19.185751.22378@colorado.edu> ejh@khonshu.colorado.edu (Edward J. Hartnett) writes:
>In article <1992Jul17.220817.13148@u.washington.edu> dean2@rocky.geol.scarolina.edu (Dean Pentcheff)  writes:
>>I'm the shiny new administrator of a Sparc IPC system, and I need a bit of
>>advice.  
>>
>>We just picked up an external SCSI drive which I happily formatted and
>>subsequently used for the /home hierarchy.  Now that I'm starting to
>>shove some more software into /usr/local on the original disk, I'm
>>running out of room in /usr.  The old /home partition (now unused) is
>>right after the /usr partition.  Can I repartition to make /usr
>>larger?  How do I do this given that this is the boot disk?  If this is
>>clearly spelled out in the manuals, feel free to tell me to RTFM, but
>>please give me some volume/page numbers!
>  <snip>
>>What I'd love to do is repartition "g" so that it gobbles all of "h".
>>If some part of the process involves temporarily copying /usr to the
>>new SCSI disk, there's plenty of room for that.
>>
>
>Dean,
>	You can repartition the drive using the format command. See chapter
>10 of the Sun System Admin manual. Be sure to back everything up before you
>start. The manual is pretty clear, but I can be more specific if you like. 
>	The reason I posted this reply (instead of just using email) is that
>I have a question to add to yours. I am about to do something similar, and
>I'm wondering if I need more than one partition per drive. Is there any problem
>with just making the whole drive one big partiton, and having everything on that?
>Does anyone have any input on this, or suggested reading in the manuals?
>
>Ed Hartnett

As far as I know, there is nothing to prevent you from partitioning the whole
drive into one partition.  In fact, the c partition is usually the whole
disk.  There is a unix limit, due mainly to the number of direct/indirect
pointers (not to be confused with inodes), which is, I believe, about 4GB.
This amount is higher than most practical requirements for max data block
size.  Please post any responses because I would like to know if I'm wrong.

			- E.T.

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From: casper@fwi.uva.nl (Casper H.S. Dik)
Subject: Re: sunrpc mystery needs solving
Keywords: sunrpc netstat whatthehell
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 07:42:02 GMT

quejoh@auto-trol.com (Quentin Johnson) writes:

>I'm trying to understand some weird behavior on a Sun 4/110 running
>SunOS 4.1.1.

>Netstat reports a lively "sunrpc" life for an otherwise sedate little
>workstation.  The "localhost.sunrpc" entries seem to cycle from none to
>hundreds and slowly back down to none.  It almost seems as if running
>"netstat" causes them to increase!

>It's the only system on a subnet that's attached to the second ethernet
>interface on a gateway host.   The other interface of the gateway is
>connected to a backbone network.  At most there are 20 hosts doing nfs
>mounts of the 4/110 system; basically inactive  It's the only system in
>our environment not running NIS.  Processes involving RPC (rpc.lockd,
>rpc.mountd, nfsd, etc...) are usually idle or idle and swapped out so
>I'm puzzled by the output of netstat! I haven't noticed this behavior
>on other systems; otherwise this system is working ok.  The output of
>"netstat" and "ps ax" follow.

This is a side effect of not running NIS and running netstat. Each
invocation of netstat tries to connect to the NIS server
to resolve port numbers. This involves asking the portmapper about
some questions. Since netstat uses tcp (probably by specifying
set*ent(stayopen)) you will be left with tha connection in TIME_WAIT
state. Don't worry, they'll go away (if you don't look).

Casper
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: janet@cs.uwa.oz.au (Janet Jackson)
Subject: Re: Can I limit the number of concurrent processes *per user*?
Organization: Dept. Computer Science, University of Western Australia.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 06:28:10 GMT

In <1992Jul28.171454.11255@kodak.kodak.com> dennett@sunshine.Kodak.COM (Charlie Dennett) writes:

>What I'd like to do (besides the obvious) is to limit the number of
>processes this particular user (or any user for that matter) can have
>at any one time.  Can it be done? I know maxusers can limit the size of
>the systems process table, but is is possible to limit individual
>users?

You can limit everyone, but as far as I know you can't pick on individual
users.  Under SunOS4.1.1 on a Sparc (and it's probably the same for other
kernel arch's and SunOSes), you change MAXUPRC in
/usr/kvm/sys/sun4c/YOURKERNEL/param.c:

   /* we will limit by the number of processes a student can have so they
      cannot fill the process table when learning about fork()
   #define MAXUPRC (NPROC - 5)
   */
   #define MAXUPRC 20

This limit then applies to everyone except root.


Janet Jackson
<janet@cs.uwa.edu.au>
Systems Administrator
Department of Computer Science
The University of Western Australia
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: jacobson@fred.isgs.uiuc.edu (Russ Jacobson)
Subject: Openview/X11 and MacX
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.admin
Organization: Illinois State Geological Survey
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:19:16 GMT

Not sure which of the groups to post this in, but this looks best. We are
evaluating a departmental copy of MacX on my Macintosh. What we want to be
able to do is to connect to our Sun network, and run an Openwindows
displayon MacX on the Macintosh screen. My Sun/Unix experience is limited
to what I have needed to do up until now as a geologist using Sun
Applications via my Versaterm Program and Tektronics emulation. We now have
a bunch of menus defined for our Mapping software that is running on the
Openwindows display which will not work in the Tektronics mode. So I am
evaluating MacX to see if we can even get Openwindows to display on the Mac
or not. 

I may be totally wrong about even being able to do this. I have been
looking through a number of Openwindows Docs we have, but what little I
have understood/gleaned imply I need to know more about the X11/NeWs server
that Openwindows runs on. I have not been able to find out if our network
people have the X11/NeWS Server Guide that I seem to need to read. Our main
person is gone for a while.

If anyone can tell me (in simple terms, but with enough detail) the
commands I need to send via my MacX progam to use Openwindows I would
appreciate it. Thanks for your time!!!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: jpd@discovery.msu.edu (Joe P. DeCello)
Subject: Western Digital wd8003e on sun386i/250 help!!
Reply-To: jpd@discovery.msu.edu
Organization: Michigan State University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 18:26:00 GMT


From: jpd@cad.msu.edu (Joe P. DeCello)