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From: okeefe@cs.Buffalo.EDU (Paul O'Keefe)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Flying on someone else's ticket.
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:22:08 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci
Originator: okeefe@dubhe.cs.buffalo.edu


I want to fly on United using a ticket made out with a female name.
What are the chances of getting away with it.
The front end boarding pass is already made out with a shorted first name.
I recall that they usually don't look at the boarding pass as the collect them anyway.
How about if I get a female to check in for me on the return leg? That might work?


-Paul O'Keefe
From: dbr@ocf.berkeley.edu (Daniel Rosler)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Airline food
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:48:19 GMT
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My experience has been that the "low fat" meals are fantastic.  On a recent
flight, while the person next to me had tough, two-day old steak, a hard
brownie, and a chunck of stale bread, I had some juicy baked chicken, a 
good salad, and (made my whole row jealous) a great, fresh fruit cup.  For
the first time I actually enjoyed an airline meal.  Try it...

Dan

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From: pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen)
Subject: Re: Chicago to London/Paris to Chicago 
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 22:35:06 GMT

schuyler@bagpipe.cis.ohio-state.edu (Carlton Schuyler) writes:

>The cheapest flight I have ever got to Europe was on Iceland Air, from
>New York through Reykjavik to Luxembourg. (or Luxemburg, depending).
>Of course, this is ignoring the fact that you have to get from Chicago
>to New York (I believe Boston was the same price).  It cost $330,
>roundtrip.  That was three years ago, though.

 Icelandair does fly direct from Chicago to Reykjavik and then on to
 Luxemburg, or what ever other city you would like to connect to.  I
 did this in '87 and it wasn't too expensive.  My cheapest flight was
 last year on American.  It was $305 round trip Chicago-Brussels.  Of
 course that was because of the Gulf War.  I have seen round trip
 prices to Europe around $400 this year though.  Just keep your eyes
 open and you'll probably find one.  It might be getting to late though
 for the best fares for the summer.

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From: shedevil@vix.com (Anne P. Mitchell)
Subject: Bay Area to Austin Area?
Organization: Fathers' Rights & Equality Exchange
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 08:02:43 GMT

Can anyone tell me what is the best fare and best flight time
available (or fare versus flight time, if it comes out that way) for
regular trips between the Bay Area and Austin?


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From: rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft)
Subject: Re: Travel Clubs Info? USair destinations
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 20:04:38 GMT

In article <29E3F790.16935@ics.uci.edu> davida@ics.uci.edu (David Andersen) writes:
>><Does USAir only service the East coast?
>>
>USAir also serves the West Coast, though the service is not as great as
>it used to be.
>
>USAir was formed by the merger of 3 airlines: USAir (formerly Allegheny)
>in the NorthEast, Piedmont (an airline almost the same size in the
>SouthEast), and PSA (in the West/Southwest).

USAir and Piedmont served almost exactly the same markets.  USAir was a little
stronger in the N.E. while Piedmont served some areas of the S.E. where
USAir was not a factor.

USAir was driven out of the old PSA markets by a number of things---
1) it lost PSA's fun image and lower cost structure.
2) Southwest moved into LA-SF market driving prices lower.
3) United moved to every half-hour service in LA-SF.
4) Delta moved to hourly service in LA-SF.

USAir typically makes its money in near-monopoly markets in the high-cost
N.E.  The management didn't know how to cope in a truly competitive market.
American Airlines reduced service in LA-SF for exactly the same reasons.

RNA
From: jacko@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Jacko)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: USair
Date: 16 Apr 92 02:48:03 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <29ECD9FF.9511@ics.uci.edu> davida@ics.uci.edu (David Andersen) writes:
>Delta bought Western
>             Eastern's Shuttle Routes
   Nope, Pan Am Shuttle
>American bought Air Cal
>                Eastern's South American Routes
   +TWA's London routes.
>Texas Air bought Eastern
>                 Continental which bought Frontier
>                                          People's Express
  Actually PE bought Frontier, but it ended up going chapter XI
  shortly before the parent did.  They had an agreement to sell
  Frontier to United, but the UA pilots' union killed the deal.
  Incidentally, the name was "People Express".  Singular.
  PE also owned several major commuter lines, such as Britt (Chicago)
  and the infamous Provincetown-Boston Airlines...I don't really 
  know what happened to them, to be honest.  I think Continental
  sold them off after a while.
>                 New York Air
  Just to pick nits, New York Air wasn't "acquired" by Texas Air,
  it was in fact created by Lorenzo et al as a non-union "child of
  deregulation", so to speak.  When Lorenzo bought Eastern, he was
  forced to divest himself of NY Air's DCA-LGA-BOS routes, and the
  Pan Am shuttle was born.  The remainder of NYA was merged into CO
  in Feb '87, and the NY Air employees generally got the most favored
  treatment (seniority, etc) in the merged company (the PE people got
  the shaft).  CO had a very bitter workforce in those days.

>United bought Pan Am's Pacific Routes
   and their European routes...and got their Latin American routes
   after Pan Am folded.

>(It seems to me that there was an airline with SUN in its name that
> was centered out of Vegas.  I THINK it was bought by America West.)

Sun Country Airlines is a charter outfit which operates out of Vegas.
I don't think AWA owns them.

Jacko.
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From: st890123@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Joe Dropkin)
Subject: Re: Question about selling tickets
Reply-To: st890123@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:01:25 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.125723.5438@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, jruiz@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jose Ruiz) writes:
>     I have a question for anyone who can answer me.  I have a round trip 
>ticket from Columbus, Ohio to Salt Lake City, Utah, and will not be using the 
>return portion (the flight makes a stop in Chicago O'Hare).  Is it legal to try
>to sell that portion I won't be using?
>
>     I'd appreciate any comments.
>-- 

Do you mean is it scalping?  I suppose not if you sell it at 1/2 price of what
you paid for the whole trip.


Joe

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From: michele@apex.yorku.ca (Michele Marques)
Subject: Re: For people near Toronto....
Organization: York University, Help Services, CCS
	<92Apr13.115540edt.16845@ois.db.toronto.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:11:09 GMT


I can't believe it is cheaper to buy air tickets in Toronto than Buffalo.
Even if the ticket prices are cheaper, we have a 7% national tax added on
(in addition to Ontario sales tax of 8% and air taxes/fees).  As I think
Buffalo sales tax is 3%, Toronto air fare prices would have to be 9%
less expensive (exchange rates being taken into consideration), even 
cheaper than that if you consider transportation costs of getting to/from
Toronto.

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From: mehta@watson.bms.com (Pradhyuman Mehta)
Subject: Newark - Manchester Tickets
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Keywords:  Price
Organization: Bristol Myers Squibb Pharmaceutical Research Institute
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:19:00 GMT


    I hope to travel from Newark (NJ) to Manchester (UK) sometime around the
end of July or the beg. of August. I hope to stay for ~ 2-3 weeks and return
to Newark. I'd like to know what will be the best price for the journey? I'll
be travelling with the misses, so I'm looking to save where possible. Would it
be cheaper to travel from NY JFK to Heathrow/Gatwick. Are there any specials
etc. etc... Please reply by E-Mail to the address shown below. I'm not a
frequent reader of RTA. 


Cheers,

Prej.

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From: mechalas@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (John P. Mechalas)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Welcome/etc.
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:55:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: gn.1992Apr7.005517.15409
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <167C11199A.CHEGERH@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> CHEGERH@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes:
>In article <rqcqmINN4qg@agate.berkeley.edu>
>spanga@yocomputo (Span Grad Asst) writes:
>>(deleted)
>> What is the longest (timewise/distance)
>>nonstop air segment on regularly scheduled airlines?
>>(deleted)
>>Dan Landis (spanga@athena.berkeley.edu)  no sig**
> 
>Probably LAX - SYD nonstop on QANTAS or United Airlines. I think
>travelling time is 14 hrs LAX - SYD and about 13 hrs SYD - LAX.
>      Gerald Cheang (chegerh@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu)

My dad was on a longer flight...Boston to Detroit...They spent 13 hours on 
the plane.  Of course, the bad weather and refeulings while waiting for it
to clear had a lot to do with that...  =)  I guess we're not counting un-
scheduled delays, though, are we?  :) :)


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From: adf@aficom.ocunix.on.ca (andrew farmer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Airport Codes
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 14:26:01 EDT
Reply-To: adf@aficom.ocunix.on.ca (andrew farmer)
Distribution: world
Organization: AFI Communications - Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

sjones@alfred.carleton.ca (Stan Jones) writes:

| This is going to be a problem as Canada Post has never
| designated two-letter codes for the provinces.

Incorrect.  These are the officially recognized 2 letter codes for Canada:

Provs (west to east): BC, AB, SK, MB, ON, QC, NB, NS, PI, NF
Territories:          YK, NT

PQ is still recognized for Quebec, but QC is now the official code.

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From: noah@coos.dartmouth.edu (Noah Cole)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Frequent Fliers
Date: 12 Apr 92 19:27:21 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

cjpaul@bahamas.ece.cmu.edu (Chakkalamattam J. Paul) writes:



>Hi!!!!

>I am planning to travel from Pittsburgh to India in late summer, and was
>wondering which airline to use.  I would like to accumulate those
>miles on an airline which has a neat frequent flier program  (Pan Am
>had a great one).  Any tips?

For that route, USAir would be the best.  Flying to almost ANYWHERE from
PIT.. USAir is the best.

>To my knowledge, Delta, Air France, British Airways, Lufthansa, Swiss Air,
>Singapore Airlines all fly to Bombay, and some of them supposedly have 
>tieups with US airlines for accumulating frequent flier miles.  If anyone
>has a FAQ file on frequent flier programs, that would help a lot.

Delta FF people get miles when flying on Swissair, and Singapoure.

One word of caution about airline PARTNERS though.  It usually takes many more
miles to get an award on a partner then on the actual airline.  Take
Continental for example.  One ticket to Europe is 40,000 miles on Continental,
to Paris for example.  If you wanted to take Air France (who is acutally no
longer a partner), it was 60,000 miles.  For 60,000, you could get one
domestic and 1 to europe.  Not the best deal!

-Noah Cole

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From: rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft)
Subject: Texas Air
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 19:25:51 GMT

In article <kurbbcINN77m@news.bbn.com> rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman) writes:
>
>Also, was there ever an actual airline called "Texas Air" or was
>this just a holding company for other airlines?  If the former,
>when did it stop flying under that name?
>

Frank Lorenzo bought Texas International (nee Trans Texas Airlines or
Tree Top Airways) in the early 70s.  He used the same tough labor
tactics there as he later did at Continental---he more or less had to,
since he was in direct competition with low cost Southwest.

He bought CO in what, 1979?  Folded Texas International into CO and
called the holding company Texas Air.

RNA
From: woody@udcf.glasgow.ac.uk (Ian Woodrow)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Air Inter fares info wanted [repost]
Date: 9 Apr 92 11:42:16 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Service

Can anyone out there in newsgroup land (anyone reading from France ?) give me
some info on Air Inter domestic fares ?   In particular I am looking for the
single fare from Strasbourg to Paris.  There are different types of fare with
Air Inter -- cheaper off-peak etc etc.  Do these tickets need to be bought IN
France ?  

Anyone with Air Inter fares info please email me.

cheers,


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From: dunbar@boulder.colorado.edu (SCOTT E. DUNBAR)
Subject: Qantas, FF miles etc.
Reply-To: dunbar@boulder.colorado.edu (SCOTT E. DUNBAR)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:17:55 GMT

I will be flying Qantas this summer, i was wondering if they have arrangements
with other airlines for frequent flier miles?

Email replies are prefered

thanks in advance

Scott
 
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From: llew@wpi.WPI.EDU (Lew Yan Voon)
Subject: Re: Lufthansa offer of free RT ticket?
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:38:55 GMT

In article <73195@netnews.upenn.edu> porten@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Jeffrey  Porten) writes:
>A friend told me that he saw an offer of a free RT on Lufthansa with the
>purchase of an economy or business ticket in a full-page ad in the NYT.
>Subsequent searching shows no evidence of this ever existing.  Anyone have
>more info?
>


i read somewhere that usair has a similar offer. check the sunday
papers.
From: spanzer@enzyme.berkeley.edu (Scott Panzer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: International bumps? (Was Re:more questions about BUMPS)
Date: 15 Apr 1992 06:44:36 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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In article <1992Apr14.175850.1@cc.newcastle.edu.au>, c9038270@cc.newcastle.edu.au (Manfred Hanley) writes:
> Another question about bumps: Do they only occur in the U.S. or overseas
> as well (namely Australia)?
> 
> Also, do airlines such as QANTAS, Northwest and Continental do much `bumping'?


Involuntary bumps can occur frequently on international flights.  I guess
the airlines will overbook these flights most heavily to insure the fly
a full plane.  Bumping can occur if the reservation is no reconfirmed 72
hours in advance of the flight.

**I am not certain, in this type of situation, whether the airline is obliged
to provide you with compensation (ie free ticket) or do anything beyond 
getting you on to a later flight**  This may depend on the laws of the
country in which the flight originates.  Somebody who knows about this,
please fill in the details for me, thanks.

I have been offered bumps on Northwest (domestic) flights several times,
including twice in one night on a flight out of Boston.  I bet most
airlines do a fair amount of bumping, but where and when is a big factor.
In other words, you may be more likely to be bumped in a given city
on one particular airline than another.  See for example the discussion
going on about Bumps/USAir.

Scott
From: johnvann@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (John D. Vann)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Fares to Japan
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:45:13 GMT
Organization: oh, just me.
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU

I was wondering if anybody knows how to go about getting cheap flights
to Japan.  I have a summer job in Tokyo and need to travel in early June
and mid/late August.  If anyone has helpful advice/tips please e-mail
me.  You will earn my eternal gratitude.

Thanks,
John

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From: staggers@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ken Staggers)
Subject: Re: AMEX coupons???
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 18:11:16 GMT

In article <s0mirINNr51@agate.berkeley.edu> dbr@ocf.berkeley.edu (Daniel Rosler) writes:
>After 2 1/2 weeks, I called to ask what was up.  To make a long story short,
>they mailed them by mistake to my parents' old address (2 years old in fact.)
>I don't know how they did this because they're very good at getting the 
>*bills* to them.  Here's the fun part!!

Thats a problem with AMEX.  If I move, I have to call not only customer
service, but also their centurion bank (since i have a loan out with them)
and their credit card registry program.  I am also assuming I'll have to
separate notify their Frequent Flyer program as well in the future.  Yes,
coordinating all of those databases might cost more money than its worth to
AMEX, but they should at least try.

Also, as a grad student, I have to register with their student group
every year.  Which isnt so bad, since that means I can decide when my
travel coupons will start.

--Ken
From: hs@cns.umist.ac.uk (Harold Somers)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Upward bumps (was: Re: Bumps)
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:32:00 GMT
Organization: UMIST, Manchester, England.

A friend of mine told me that he had heard that the following was a possible
(and interesting) thing to do if you hold an economy ticket: just as they 
start boarding, go up to the ticket desk and say you would like to upgrade
your ticket to business class. Apparently, if the business class section is
not full, they are quite happy to do this, at a very small cost, maybe $30 or
something. Believe me, the difference is worth it on a long haul (especially
to/from Japan, where smoking seems to be compulsory in the economy section).
Does anyone have any first hand experience of this? (I mean, getting a cheap
upgrade). Does it work? Is there a risk?
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From: shigeya@foretune.co.jp (Shigeya Suzuki)
Subject: Re: Long Flights.
Organization: Foretune Co., Ltd.  Tokyo Japan
	<1992Apr07.112054.246641@cs.cmu.edu> <michels.702711249@menaik>
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 14:22:04 GMT

>>>>> On 8 Apr 92 14:34:09 JST, michels@cs.UAlberta.CA (Michael Michels) said:

Michael> That was a _very_ long day.  22 hours.

On March '91, I flew to Brazil.

	NRT - LAX - RIO	 	by Varig Air  (refuel at LAX)
            9hour 13hour	(plus refuel 2hour)
	RIO - JFK		by Varig Air
            9hour
	      JFK - NRT		by Japan Air Lines
                  13hour

I believe, NRT-LAX-RIO is one of the longest flight. It was terrible,
but the seat of Varig air was the best sheet in my experence.

Following numbers are bit diffent from what I flew, but anyway...

	NRT-LAX		5,451ml
	LAX-GRU-RIO	6,381ml	(6153+228)
		       11,532ml

	RIO-GRU-JFK	4,986ml	(4758+228)
	JFK-NRT		6,745ml
		       11,731ml

That was long-long flight.

shigeya
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From: jbh@anat.UMSMED.EDU (James B. Hutchins)
Subject: Re: AMEX coupons - how transferrable are they?
Summary: You may have to lie (!)
Organization: Dept. of Anatomy, Univ. of Mississippi Medical Center
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 04:08:34 GMT


In article <1992Apr7.020013.27660@u.washington.edu> treon@milton.u.washington.edu (Treon Verdery) writes:
>well, I got the $189 coupons from AMEX.  They have my name written
>on them.  My question is, can I somehow buy a ticket for my girlfriend
>with one of them so that we can go the same place for the same price?
>...

I tried this with a frequent flyer bonus certificate issued in my dad's
name.  They requested ID at the airport ticket counter, and were extremely
pissed that the first names did not match.  I lied about some mixup on
names and got away with it, but I think the agent just didn't see the
point in arguing with me and let it go.

In brief, then, unless you can come up with a really good story (i.e., lie),
it's probably hopeless.  You can bet almost everything has been tried...

Jim

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From: mitja@hera.Berkeley.EDU (Mitja Baumhackl)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Bikes via UPS
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:48:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.scohqINN65b
Organization: University of California at Berkeley, Berkeley, CA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: hera.berkeley.edu
Originator: mitja@hera.Berkeley.EDU

If you do ship your bike with UPS, be sure to insure it.  And, if
possible, open the box in front of the delivery person and make
sure your bike is in the same condition it was when it was mailed out.
My housemate sent her bike across the country and the spokes were
damaged:  UPS required receipts etc., but they did pay for repairs.

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