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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:37:52 EST
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject: Smash or Trash? Reprised
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        Maybe of interest.


> From: flash@well.sf.ca.us (flash gordon, md)
> To: eff@eff.org
> Subject: east/west foundation: worth a plug from you?
> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 10:51:54 -0800
>
> the n.y. times had a piece in yesterday's paper about the "east - west
> foundation."  they take old computers (like xt's) and send 'em to
> eastern european countries.  they'll fix up inoperative ones:  the
> one that can't be fixed are shipped over there and scavenged for parts.
>
> it said that they use "everything but the dust."
>
> i'm sending 'em a couple of my old xt clones, and thought that other
> eff members might like to know there's a way to put the old unused
> box to good use.
>
> here's the contact info for east/west:
>
> east-west foundation - computer
> donations 617-542-1234
> 582 E street
> south boston mass 02210
> enclose list of what's there and  will
> get a letter of appraisal in return
> tax deductible - non profit foundation
>
> feel free to pass this info on to whoever might be a more appropriate
> recipient, if you think it's not appropriate for _online_.
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From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Quiet Night?

>> Me too.  Always nice to have a little piggy to roast in a <pinch>.
>
>Cut it out! You're making me <blush>.
>
>-abh

Pink piggy is even better.

-K

-Mka
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:20:34 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      RE: My first CS assignment: THE WAKATRON!

>>HISTORICAL NOTE: The use of wakae in text, for variety a of  pur-
>>poses,  not  all of them clearly known but including at least (1)
>
>How did this process get the name 'wakating'?
>
>Joan

Oop, sorry to reply so late! The process had to be called something, so
I called it "wakating". Apparently "waka" is a word used for both "<"
and ">", at least according to a poem posted by Don Thornton.

It provides an opportunity to say "Gilbert Smith has often wakated off in
wild textual frenzy".

If wakae occur only at a nesting level of one, calling both "<" and ">"
the same name is not confusing when reading out a formula.

This naturally leads to: Announcement of next upgrade: Smith version 1.2 -
Supporting Nested Wakae! The Smith-Wakatron to end all Smith-Wakatrons!

tushar

PS Sorry to go off on a tangent, Joan. As far as I know, wakating, wakation,
   wakator, wakatrix etc don't have any authenticity.
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:00:28 -0600
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject: Re: FYFI
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> Coming from *you*, sis, that is a <complement>.
> --ggs (your bad brother...)

Hrrrmmmmpppphhhh.  Your mama dresses you funny.
doris (your angelic sister)
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:24:00 EST
From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Things that make you go *sigh*
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> > > --ggs (expecting the Democrats to *give* me lots of stuff
> > > in the years to come....)
>
> Well, gigggles, you better not grab for the soap the first time the demos
> say they've dropped it, else they'll be <giving> you some <stuff> you
> hadn't planned on. The wallet grab is just <foreplay> to the <high hard
                       1)^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> one> that is in store for all of us. And if you want shrill cronelike
> wailing and gnashing of teeth, you just wait until the first big tax hike
> hits us and I promise to give you all a <show> like nothing ever written
2)^^^^^^^^^
> about in your handy-dandy <New-Age> organic recipe and solar-power-tools
> handbook.
> -abh

   1)  When this happens, I'll just say "Oooohhh, do that again!"
   2)  When this happens, I'll just think look at all these nice
       things those tacky <rich> people were *forced* to give me.
--ggs (wondering how he just *knew* that -abh would get turned on to
       this thread.....????? ...  and *doris*... Really!  *She*
       should know better by now...  -abh just cant <help> herself.)
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:29:14 CST
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Ethnomethodology (was Gleanings (68))
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> _American Heritage Dictionary, 3rd Ed._ says that it is *the
> branch of sociology that deals with the codes and conventions
> that underlie everyday social interactions and activities*.  It
> sounds like <sociolinguistics> to me.  Or is it any different?

I think I promised early this morning to return to this question if
nobody else answered it before then.  Jim T. can no doubt give a better
answer than I can since it's a term used more by sociologists than by
linguists.  It is, however, one of the areas where sociology and linguistics
meet -- as Akio noticed.  The basic concern of ethnomethodology is examining
how context influences meaning.  I'm sitting here right now trying to think
of how I would distinguish between ethnography/ethnomethodology and
pragmatics.  I guess ethnomethodology is a larger area than pragmatics.
Pragmatics is tied more directly to language -- ethnomethodology is
broader.  Ethnomethodologists are interested in socially conditioned
ways that people categorize each other and the world around them.  One
way of examining this is through discourse analysis.  And that, of course,
is where ethnomethodology meets linguistics, especially pragmatics.
Sociolinguists are interested in (among other things) how setting affects
language use.  And fieldworkers in linguistics have to recognize their
own position in the interaction with an informant.

Does this help at all?  I'm online for a quick e-mail break before getting
back to work.  Maybe Jim or other sociologists will provide a better
explanation.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:37:00 EST
From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Note to Bayla
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.
The only umbrella I had at <hand> was ineffectual in the
<face> of the onslaught of *salmon* struggling to make it
upstream.
.
--ggs
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:28:44 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Southern Culture on the Skids
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On Thu, 19 Nov 1992, blomberg cepeda wrote:

> and, my dear, it shows.                  b.c.


Yo' mama!

-abh
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:43:30 EST
From:         "Tony @ Brownvm" <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Real BWP Stats
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Posted on 19 Nov 1992 at 18:51:58 by Rashmi

>Since Anne did such a poor job of compiling the BWP stats, (omitting Frank,
>fer chrissakes), here are the revised numbers for our favorite (*) BWPs:

>EL406041@BROWNVM.BROWN...      127
>Karen Kay                       30
>ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC....       98
>ll23%nemomus@BROWNVM.B...        1
>EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN...       58
>EL406045@BROWNVM                 1
>                            ________
>                               315

Uh, Rashmi - much as I like to think of Karen as a good friend, we are
*not* sharing an ID at Brown!  I see I should fix my nickname file.

Tony H.
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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:33:11 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Clear the air
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              16 Nov 1992 00:05:36 EST from <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>

On Mon, 16 Nov 1992 00:05:36 EST Entropy Warrior said:
>>you old waterwitching dowser, you.....
>
>I believe the term is hoser.  No need for euphemisms among <friends>.
>
>-Mka

Yes!!  For the first time, perhaps, dan and ausbrook agree on something....
   the truth about the hoser from chicago....

dan
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>As long as you don't let slip that I've been playing tushar since he went
>back to India two months ago...

>G

        Damn, he's good at it too!  Had me <completely> fooled when he came to
        Pittsburgh.  Losing that weight and walking on your knees must have
        been difficult, but the best part was shaving off your beard.  Covering
        up the burrrrrrrrrr with that obviously-phony Indian accent was a bit
        much.

        I thought you preferred milk to beer, though.

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:51:00 EST
From:         CROSEN%BGSUOPIE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject: Re: Things that make you go *sigh*

Greetings,

Ah, nor does the estimable Natalie indulge in this putative group
behavior.  I had thought this decapitated chicken stuff might be a southern
custom, but I see it is not.  I am trying to imagine the group of which
Tushar would be a subset, the unlikely We.

Marty
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 05:08:54 CST
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: One simple (?!) question

> How about having a Group Croning for all the WORDies who
> are elegible at the SalmonBake in July?

That reminds me of another question I meant to ask:  Does a croning have
to take place on the exact date of your 50th birthday?  If not, then I'm all
for a group croning in Portland.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:20:52 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Clear the air
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              12 Nov 1992 20:50:20 CST from <samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU>

On Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:50:20 CST <samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU> said:
>>6). List Goddess: didn't Dan name Natalie this?
>
>Here I am slightly unsure, but I would point to Adam as the most likely
>culprit. Dan is an utter newbie compared to me(*), and I remember List
>Goddess being mentioned in the very early days of my life.

   bullshit.....you may have been here longer, but it was as your altar ego
[no sic there, tushie].....you and the fucking elephant.....

>(*) Summary of Dan's replies: Big fucking deal. Who the fuck cares. Don't
>                              give a flying fuck.

Wrong again, bozobreath.....it was me.....until Natalie or Bernard says
to the contrary or Frank greps the archives again....

dan, dan, potatoman
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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1992 17:02:33 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Speaking of Gatherings
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You are all invited to an eggnog party Sunday, December 20, between two
and six p.m., at 211 South Nash, Starkville, Mississippi.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 09:59:25 EST
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Subject: Re: Things that make you go *sigh*

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>>Don't enumerate your fowl...
>>doris
>
>This reminds me. Everyone check out this cool question: WHY do
>we say "disoriented like a decapitated chicken"? Has anyone SEEN
>a headless chicken?
>
>tushar

No, but I have seen headless chicken carcasses.

JAG
From: KYL120@URIACC.URI.EDU (Lisa Alfieri)
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Subject: Re: Things that make you go *sigh*
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:22:31 GMT
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>Posted on 18 Nov 1992 at 11:13:03 by Uriacc Mailer (002033)
>
>Re: Re: Things that make you go *sigh*
>
>Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:39:00 EST
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>From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
>
>I am going to start being sweet to everyone.
>--ggs
Oh Yuck! This truley did make me sigh. Why be so boring? Be nasty, it's so much
more fun.
Lisa
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Perpetuating the System (was Re: Old grunts)
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              14 Nov 1992 23:39:53 GMT from <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>

On Sat, 14 Nov 1992 23:39:53 GMT Graham Toal said:
>decrease the IQ of children brought up close to busy roads (from lead
>in petrol), because you're using a considerably larger share of the

   haven't you guys heard of unleaded gas yet?  its almost impossible to
find leaded any more over here....even if you want it....

>Use a bicycle for trips of less than 5 files, train for trips of > 50,

   and do YOU do so when it is 105 degrees, or -25 degrees, both regular
seasonal temperatures in Idaho?

>and your vehicle for trips inbetween only when there isn't a bus or
>taxi service available.

   That covers them all.....Boise bus service runs between 7 and 7 on
weekdays, such as it is....and many wish it were better....

>Public transport should be provided by the Government as a public
>service rather than cowtowing to the oil and car industries.

   well, good....but try to convince the folks in idaho of that....or
the folks in most of the rest of the western USA.

>for businesses and occassional personal necessity - it's the majority
>of private car use in situations where it could be avoided that I
>have philosophical objections to)

   Well, when you figure out how to avoid it in idaho.....i'll be really
interested.....also, our one train a day has a really FINE schedule...
at 2330 eastbound and 0345 westbound, more or less....if its on time....

dan
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Southern Culture on the Skids
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:35:45 GMT
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In a previous article, CROSEN@OPIE.BGSU.EDU () says:

>Greetings, Ruth,
>
>Many of us on the list owe you a great deal of gratitude for making it
>abundantly clear that most, if not all, communication is indeed random.
>I suspect Tushar is one of the chief beneficiaries of your example.
>
Let us hope so - one fish two fish, 32-skidoo fish!  THere, was that random
enough for you?:-)  Free-associating over the net can be quite fun, especially
when I get to "see" the confused expressions on the more liguistically dense
Wordies' "faces".<grin>  Like yours....

>I'm not volunteering anything Ruth.  I suspect after perusing a few of your
>posts, Bekka will soon see that she is possessed of uncommon cogency.
>
This could be interesting - the Random Weirdness Generator herself against
a newbie. The newbie would lose of course, in a contest of randomness.
But you did volunteer something, you know; there is always some sort of 
method in my and I suspect Bekka's madness.  You've just indicated that you
can't see it.  I'll bet you're lousy at jigsaw puzzles too.:-)

>
-- 
		###	Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###
			- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:28:26 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: November 22
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Bob, I commiserate. Of all the fun areas, channels, BBs, and newsgroups, you
chose this channel (or area or BB or newsgroup). But that's not all - mark
the sequel, Bob! The very first reply to your entry is this:

>NOT just another Bob; you're a newbie Bob.  A newbie wordsler Bob, to be
>exact; those are rather scarce.  [Hey Harwell!  Fresh meat!]

Notice that, Bob: you are scarce. Which is a good thing.

But what have you done to deserve THIS, Bob?

>At the moment it's pretty quiet, but knowing this crowd, that will change
>in the morning.  THen you'll be up to your block limit in posts.  At the
>moment, we are discussing: the reasons why chocolate and garlic should not be
>used in the same dish, a rather strange Graham-mar joke, and the fact that
>I have a male identical twin named Tushar who refuses to admit to the
>relationship. <ducks Tushie-thrown ICBM>  Other things also crop up from
>time to time.  Just stick around for the Gleanings, and you'll understand
>a bit better.  Or maybe you won't, most people including the veterans don't
>understand this "place" very well.

You will get only dry condolences, but otherwise, you will have to wade
through this yourself. Words-l has no mercy, Bob.

tushar
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From:         "Alec D. Plotkin" <185422285@UCIS.VILL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: November 22
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>Howdie all.  I'm new here and my name is Bob.  Yes, just another Bob, I guess.
>Anyway, talk to me and let me know what's happening on this channel.  I hate to
>feel left out, ya know.  Oh, and happy turkey day.


Another new one!! We are getting popular. What channel is words-l
anyway???  69 or ????
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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1992 20:32:03 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: help with address in England
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sff1000@phx.cam.ac.uk most probably.  And it could be correct even if
finger doesn't work - Cambs are *very* bad at network connection.

G
PS The long alternative version is phoenix.cambridge.ac.uk
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Why You Shouldn't Clean Out Files When Tired
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> Natalie, I'm not sure I understand.  Can't you get a copy of the BIOS file in
> ftp space, and put it in your directory on Ra?  Then you can edit it as you
> please, no?

Yes.  That would be no problem.  But it's a single file.  What I deleted
was a directory full of separate files for each person.  So when a new
one arrived, I was able to put it in that directory, edit its headers out,
and then combine all the files into the new bio file to put in ftp space
as a replacement for the old one.  In other words, instead of screwing
around with the big file in ftp space, I could simply cat all the little
files into a new big file and toss out the old one.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: Imposter
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>And tell me Superman isin't really dead......I listened to him on radio,
>centuries ago, and KNEW nothing but kryptonite could kill him.....
>
>Faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, able to
>leap tall buildings in a single bound....
>
>                            Peace,
>                                  Don

I'm sure it's just a marketing ploy..... he'll be back. The one they killed
off has got to be an impostor..... Superman is the 'man of steel' and yet
they show him bleeding in that comic.... every one who grew up with the
radio version knows that's impossible. Kryptonite is the only thing that
can kill him....he wouldn't be Superman otherwise.

Carolyn
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Usenet question
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> I'm not at all familiar with usenet, so bear with me. Are all listservs avail-
> able on usenet? I know words-l is, but I don't know about the others. Thanks!

Minor point re your wording:  I don't think you mean "listservs" -- I think
you mean "lists."  Listserv is software that distributes mail to lists.

No, not all e-mail lists are available on usenet.  And not all sites get
the "bit" heirarchy of usenet.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:19:51 EST
From:         Rashmi <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Teachers and students
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              Nov 19, 92 5:34 pm

>              . I will say, though, that I *am* looking forward to reading my
> students' evaluation forms. Here's a question for you teaching pros out there
 -
> what was your reaction to your first set of student evaluations? What you ex-
> pected? Any shocking surprises?

Emily, you and I both!!  This is my first quarter teaching "on my own" as a
non-graduate student, and I'm looking forward to my first set of student
evaluations, also.  I had them when I taught as a TA and have an idea of the
sort of thing to expect, but this is different.  I don't want any shocking
surprises!!

rashmi
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