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From: craigs@pyrtech.mis.pyramid.com (Craig Shipley)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: Tangerine Dreamers go solo
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:16:52 GMT
Reply-To: craigs@pyrtech.pyramid.com (Craig Shipley)
Distribution: na
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA
Originator: daemon@sword.eng.pyramid.com

In article <Btnu75.HEr@csi.compuserve.com> dfo@csi.compuserve.com (Duane Ott) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.153455.12400@athena.mit.edu> annied@ansteyMIT.Edu (Anne Dudfield) writes:
>>I have searched EVERYWHERE for "Xcept one" by Michael Honig.  It's got a
>>great track called "Bones on the Beach."  Unfortunately, I've tried to
>>order it from several record stores and they all say it's no longer
>>made.  If anyone has seen it amywhere, please tell me.  Or if anyone has
>>a copy that they wouldn't mind copying for me, write me email. 
>
>I've never found it either, but I do have a Cinema Records sampler with the
>tracks "Bones on the Beach" and "Xcept One". Plus other great stuff by Pete
>Bardens, Patrick Moraz and Amin Bhatia.

Can you say "Out of business and out of print"? Check out the used
bins, it's probably the only place you'll find 'em.


Regards,

Craig Shipley

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=  Pyramid Technology Corp., Annapolis Junction, MD  = oF SPaCeSHiP eaRTH!!   =
=  I speak for myself, not my company.               = THiS iS YouR CaPTaiN!! =
=  ATTENTION.THIS UNIT WIRED TO OPERATE AT 220 VOLTS = YouR CaPTaiN iS DeaD!! =
From: gownder@husc9.harvard.edu (Joseph Gownder)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: John Tesh _The Games_
Date: 3 Sep 92 02:39:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Sep2.223924.15326
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

I wrote:
>|
>|Just picked up John Tesh's _The Games_ and found out that he _is_ the 
>|same John Tesh of Entertainment Tonight.  Don't let that deter you, though,
>|since it's a good CD.  My gripes: It's short (just 8 songs plus one reprise)
>|and a couple of the songs sound rather similar. "Exit Mulholland," "Barcelona,"
>|"Bastille Day," and "Concetta" deserve special merit at good songs.

johnf@auspex.com wrote: 
 
>What was the release date on this?  He was in Barcelona for the games.  If 
>you like this you should check out his "Tour De France" CD.  Quite often
>ET will play some of his music during the credits of the show.
>

_The Games_ is a very recent release; four weeks ago, tops.  It's currently
#11 on the Billboard New Age Album Chart.  I've only seen ET a few times in
my life, but next time I do, I'll listen for his tunes.

- J. P. gownder@husc9.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
From: gillmore@picard.slc.mentorg.com (Mike Gillmore (Consultant))
Subject: Re: Sheet music for piano solos
Reply-To: mike_gillmore@mentorg.com
Organization: Mentor Graphics Corp.,  Murray, Utah
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:48:32 GMT

In article <bayomi.15@bldghsc.lan1.umanitoba.ca>, bayomi@bldghsc.lan1.umanitoba.ca (Dennis Bayomi) writes:
> Has anyone seen sheet music for "new age" piano solos, available to the 
> public ?  Having recently taken up the piano, I'm interested in playing 
> some of the pieces I've enjoyed listening to over the past couples of 
> years (e.g. Windham Hill recordings).
> 
> Any help appreciated.
> 
> Dennis
> bayomi@bldghsc.lan1.umanitoba.ca
> Winnipeg, CANADA 

Here in Salt Lake City, Utah, we can get some of David Lanz's
music.  A lot like the solo works of Skyline Firedance.
-- 
Mike "Okie" Gillmore
no .sig, no glory
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
From: nv91-gta@hemul.nada.kth.se (Gustav Taxen)
Subject: New Vangelis
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, NADA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 12:40:40 GMT

Does anyone know the release date of the new Vangelis soundtrack?

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 08:34:29 CDT
From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      New ELP
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@ada3.ca.boeing.com

I was just listening to "Farewell to Arms" on the new ELP.  When they
get to the first chorus, there's a wonderful low string (?) sound
there.  Anybody know what that is?  Am I the only one whose reaction
was "Damn, that's low (and sounds good)"?  Overall, there seems to have
been a really wide range of notes on the album, from very low to
very high.

On the same album, did anybody besides me think that the recording of
the piano on Emerson's piano solo sounded lousy?  Like the strings
were buzzing?

Bob
crispen@foxy.boeing.com
From: bw@hpcvxgmr.cv.hp.com (Bill Wilhelmi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Musician's Friend (was Mail Order Prices)
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:24:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvusn.1992Sep3.162431.6497
Reply-To: bw@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Interstate 5

In article <1992Sep2.210925.23609@cbnews.cb.att.com>, milo@cbnews.cb.att.com (guy.f.klose) writes:
|> In article <17vrndINN37t@early-bird.think.com>, Paco Ojeda <Paco_Ojeda_Gonzalez@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu> writes:
|> > 1. Musician's Friend 800-776-5173
|> > These guys are indeed friendly. They have a catalog with a rather large
|> > selection of keyboardists, guitar and bass players. Decent prices.
|> 
|> It's nice that Musician's Friend sends out lots of glitzy catalogs,
|> but be careful...their prices can be a little out of wack sometimes.
|> Actually, I think it's good that they send out catalogs, because they're
|> useful for local price shopping first, before going the mail order route.
|> 
|> 
|> [Stuff Deleted ....]
|> 
|> 
|> BTW, the recent Musician's Friend catalogs that have hit my mailbox still
|> have the MSB+ for $359.

The one advantage to shopping at Musician's Friend is that they have a
no-questions-asked 30-day money back guarantee.  Most mail-order places
and store-fronts don't have this.  Now, while you get a catalog price,
you still might be able to dicker with them over the phone.

BTW, I've always had a good experience with Jim at Sweetwater Sound.  I have
found very good prices there, also.  

|> 
|> Sorry for the ranting...
|> Guy
|> -- 
|> Guy Klose
|> milo@mvuxi.att.com

-- 
 Bill Wilhelmi    
 Hewlett-Packard - User-interface Technology Division CV
 1000 NE Circle Blvd.  Corvallis, OR 97330
 bw@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com
From: majors@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Majors)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: EBI source sought (elec. brass. instr.)
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:26:16 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

I'm helping a friend in locating a source of an EBI (electronic brass
instrument (?)).  It is a MIDI controller which he can use to simulate
trumpet playing (along with a sampler/synth).  Apparently they are not
made anymore.  If anyone knows of a source blowing them out (pun not
intended), or a good used one, please reply direct. thanks
-Bob    majors@u.washington.edu
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:08:04 EDT
From:         Jeff Mallory <jeff@MILLIE.LOC.GOV>
Subject:      bucket brigade chips
Comments: To: synth-l@auvm.american.edu

To whomever was asking about BBD's recently:

The new DIGIKey catalog (#925, Sep-Oct '92) has a buncha
Panasonic BBD's listed on page 62. Many specifically for
audio applications. Prices range from $5 to $42 each.
A data book is also available.

Call 1-800-344-4539 for a catalog.

Jeff
jeff@millie.loc.gov
From: dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless)
Subject: Re: Are Minimoogs Really So Great? (was: K2000 < analog)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:20:58 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.203455.4652@sal.wisc.edu> rej@sal.wisc.edu (Randy Jones) writes:
>In article <2A9A725D.12632@orion.oac.uci.edu> dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug19.173940.9941@bmerh85.bnr.ca> shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
>>>Keyboard had a 'minimoog' patch for the Yamaha TX81z 4-op FM box
>>>and it was pretty decent ! Mind you, the 81z is capable of waveforms
>>>more complex than sine waves to begin with, and this patch used all
>>>8 voices stacked and detuned to produce a huge monophonic sound.
>>
>>	Ha har ha hah harh!  They also had one for the VZ-1.  I was laughing
>>so hard I could barely keep my hand steady enough to write over it.
>
>Hmmm. I think that the VZ-1 with stacked voices could do a nearly 
>perfect imitation of a respectable subset of Minimoog sounds. Same
>goes for 6-op FM boxes, dunno about the 4-op-different-waveforms kind.

	Wrongo!  There's no way to realistically simulate the Minimoog filter
(to say nothing of resonance) just by ramping down PD.  It's not the same.
Plus the fact that the VZ-1 only goes so low (and not very) before all the 
notes stay on the same pitch (an almost-F# I believe).  Plus the modulation
routings on the VZ-1 are so meager that you really can't simulate analog LFO
effects and such (only LFO's are dedicated global pitch and amplitude).  Now
don't get me wrong, here.  I love my VZ-1 and have a lot of great thick sounds
that I could never have done with an analog synth, but to try to emulate a
Minimoog with this baby is pissing in the wind.

>Heresy! I know! And I'll spell it out: the sounds which Minimoogs make
>are not incredibly special or magical. What does make the

	Wrong.  The Minimoog filter has a unique character that has only been
approximated by the OB-MX, and that intentionally.

>Mini a great synth is its interface, which is incredibly intuitive 
>and allows for total, musical, real-time control. If it weren't for
>the front panel, I'd certainly have something more sonically powerful 
>instead; say, a MicroWave. 

	The beauty of the Mini IMHO is the sound + interface, not either by
itself.  I grant that a uWave has a much greater palette, but you can't 
duplicate a Mini with it.

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From: ebumfr@ebu.ericsson.se (Mike Rembis 6259)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Oberheim OB-MX
Date: 3 Sep 92 00:50:54 GMT
Reply-To: ebumfr@ebu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Business Communications, Inc.

In article 19420@nntpd.lkg.dec.com, eirikur@ranger.enet.dec.com (Eirikur Hallgrimsson) writes:
>
>In article <1992Aug31.222131.27606@exu.ericsson.se>, ebumfr@ebu.ericsson.se (Mike Rembis 6259) writes...
>>All right. Now, you synth gurus (and you know who you are), what can you tell
>>me about this new beastie from Oberheim ?
>
>"Good luck laying hands on one, or even getting a demo."
				^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Eirikur Hallgrimsson   |    "Rhodes?  Where we're going, we don't need Rhodes!"
>eh@ranger.enet.dec.com |
>PATHWORKS for Macintosh|


Why do you say that ?  I heard, saw, and touched it. I even turned ... a knob  !!!!!!!   
I want it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mike Rembis       	 	       | Internet: mike.rembis@ebu.ericsson.se
Ericsson Business Communications, Inc. | UUCP:   uunet!ericsson.com!mike.rembis
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From: D_NIBBY@UNHH.UNH.EDU (Dana   Nibby)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: cheap acid bass drum
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:33:41 GMT


What is the cheapest drum machine I can buy that has an acid style
bass drum sample in it and is MIDI compatible? I'm going to buy used,
so age isn't a problem. I decided that I'm not about to pay
$400-$800 for a TR808 or an R8. How much do TR909s generally go for
used? (they aren't MIDI compatible though, are they?)

   I wanted to kill Alesis quite awhile back. They kept hyping their
SR-16, boasting of 200+ drum samples. When I finally got to demo one
(music stores were sold-out of them for MONTHS in my area), I didn't
find ONE acid bass drum sample. Or did I miss it? Boy was that stupid.

  Yep. I definitely need a cheap drum machine with a house bass drum
and MIDI compatibility. Any suggestions?

   Pax,

    Dana
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: wang@hp4at.eunet.co.at (Wang)
Subject: Re: Are Minimoogs Really So Great (was: K2000 < analog)
Organization: EUnet EDV-Dienstleistungsgesellschaft m.b.H
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 08:38:08 GMT

JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL writes:
: 
: By the Black Uriah Heep album I am assuming you mean the live album (seems as
: I remember both Look at Yourself and Wonderworld being black, also).

Yep! 
 
: Anyway... I don't think Ken Hensley ever used a Moog live, and I don't think
: one showed up on any album before Sweet Freedom (if there was even one there).

Taking my Uriah Heep Live Album and looking inside the openend cover I see
a Minimoog standing an the Hammond! Ken uses a lot of pitchmodulation while 
playing the Moog to hide the slightly wrong tuning (I assume).
Between the songs you can hear him always tuning the synth ...
And the sound speaks for itself ..
Check it out! It's a part of musichistory ;-)

: I think Hensley used some Italian nono-synth (possibly an Elka) on the
: earlier albums, and then migrated to that weird Korg mono synty which had
: the colored (yellow?) waveform select lever (maybe octave range?).

Hmm .. dont't know .. I'll look at my old synthbrochures .. maybe I'll find
them ..


/m

-- 
Michael Zacherl, Wang Austria Ltd., Vienna         |
E-MAIL: mza@pag.wang.co.at                         | "Everything is possible,
PHONE:  +43 (1) 89-111 ext. 433                    |  but nothing is real"
FAX:    +43 (1) 894-17-14                          |     (Living Colour)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: guest@dhhalden.no (.GJEST)
Subject: Swap K4 sounds
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:23:15 GMT

Hi there!

Is anybody interested in swapping sounds for the Kawai K4?

Please contact if you do.

ivind Ids
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: VZ10 (was Re: Casio CZ-101
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 20:21:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.174833.6647@spss.com>, bobhays@spss.com (Bob Hays) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep02.163122.6332@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
|> .... Stuff deleted ....
|> > 
|> > I wish Casio would come out with a rack version of the CZ-1 (the CZ-1
|> > had velocity sensitivity and an enhanced CZ architecture), and add a
|> > card slot for additional DCO waveforms.
|> 
|> Now that would be fun - maybe you'd call it a VZ-10/M:-).
|> 

I didn't think the VZ had the same voice architecture as the CZs.
Can you enlighten me on the voice architecture ? Did it have DCOs
with ring mod, etc. ? If so I'll have to start looking for some used
VZ10Ms I think ! :-)


Shiv
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: larry@brahms.udel.edu (Larry Larraga)
Subject: Re: Emulator IIIXP
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 00:44:22 GMT

In article <3768.9208291917@orsun.dcs.leeds.ac.uk> The Brown Bottle <ross-c@DCS.LEEDS.AC.UK> writes:
>Does anyone know what a Emulator IIIXP is? 


From the latest Emu newsletter:

General: Proteus-like multi-mode operation; full compatibility with
Emulator III library, including ability to access 4 simultaneous
8-Mb EIII banks.

Voices: 32 mono, 16 stereo

Memory: Up to 32 Mb of RAM, user expandable.

Outputs/connections: 4 pairs of balanced +4 dbm polyphonic outs on 1/4"
TRS jacks; balanced +4 XLR stereo outs; AES/EBU digital I/O on XLRs;
dual 50-pin Centronic-style SCSI connectors; RS-422.

Sample Rate:  44.1 kHz

S/N: >90 db

Freq. Response: 20 to 21 kHz

THD + N: 0.05%

Signal to Quiescent Noise: >100 db

Stereo Phase: Phase Coherent +/- 1 degree at 1 kHz

Power consumption: <50 watts

Dual H-Chip Filters
G-Chip design (!)
18-bit DACs
Advanced SCSI links for integration into large SCSI systems (?)
Improved EIII remote software for Macintosh.

$3,995 US retail w/8 Mb RAM
-- 
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Senior Analyst	040 Smith Hall  Newark, Delaware  19716  (302) 831-8895
Internet:  	larry@brahms.udel.edu 

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: travisj@adp.uucp (Travis)
Subject: Starting Up questions
Organization: U of Wisconsin ADP
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 15:23:25 GMT

Hi there!!

I am a new reader to this group and I have a few questions about
producing elec. music.

1) what is the best way to start? with a computer with a score or a keyboard?
   - I am intersted in the new ambient house style similar to the Orb.

2) which computers/programs work best with this style.  that is
 samples, tape loops freaky effects? are there programs where 
  you can assign samples to voices/notes? I think so but...

3) can anyone suggest any good books? should I just go to the store and ask 
   them???

4) do i need a studio to do really cool stuff? I sort of have 'connections'
  to Smart Studios here in Madison. PLace where L7 & TAD & Smashing Pumpkins
   have recorded.

Pardon my dumb questions but have all these really cool ideas in my head
but don't know where to start. Anyone have an idea about the prices for
these kinds of equipment?? I guess I should just go to the store.

Trav

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: thart@cix.compulink.co.uk (Toby Hart Dyke)
Subject: Re: Peter Sinfield (was .. something else entirely)
Reply-To: thart@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 10:33:06 +0000


In article <9208282015.AA18650@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>,
                    JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL writes:
>
>He also wrote poor lyrics for and produced P.F.M. I think he was also 
>responsible for signing them to Manticore (or whatever the ELP label was call-
ed)
>
>John
>

Apart from Crimson, ELP and PFM, Sinfield also wrote lyrics for Bucks Fizz!
For those who haven't had the pleasure(!) they are a crap 2-boy-2-girl pop
quartet who sing dross-pop and have been around for about 10 years. Fans of
PS's earlier work need not seek out any of this material. Everyone has to
pay the rent I suppose....


      Toby Hart Dyke       thart@cix.compulink.co.uk
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: MOTU changing their customer support ways??
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:20:34 GMT
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA

Hmm....
I had a bit of dialog a year or so ago as to why I couldn't use 
Opcode's Editor/Librarian package with Performer and was told that
Opcode had to adhere to the MOTU's standard.  I then called Opcode
and they told me that MOTU had to license OMS from them to get
everything to work cohesively.  Furthermore, I was told (at that time)
that for $500.00 plus handing over Performer I could use Opcode stuff
(Vision, etc.) and be an Opcode dude.  It is obvious to me that both 
companies product lines have their advantages; it is just too bad no
one will compromise enough to standardize for the benifit of all involved.
I'm dissapointed with both companies for their lack of vision in context
to standardization.  Maybe Coda will do something next year and solve
a whole lot of problems.  By the way, what ever happend to Apple's 
MIDI utility?  Last I checked I had to take out and put back my battery
to recover from that thing.

maurices
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: dpelton@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dennis Pelton)
Subject: Re: Synth trade thought .....
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 04:04:49 GMT

In article <ZRkeqB2w164w@sys6626.bison.mb.ca> five@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (A.R.F.) writes:
>I'm toying with the idea (toying with.  NOTHING definately decided yet) 
>of putting my Ensoniq ESQ-1 up for Trade.

>To save time, I would consider an even trade for:
> 
>(1) Working Arp 2600
[lists other cool, old synths]

>Any other ideas?  
>Exiting the Midi era .........
>Five

Well, how about a working Chroma?  I've got too much analog stuff 
and should get rid of either the Chroma or the EX8000...

...wait!  No!  It was a joke!  <aaaakkkkgggg>

Dennis Pelton
dpelton@nyx.cs.du.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: Bob.Weigel@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Bob Weigel)
Subject: Musicians Friend
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 05:50:34 GMT


	I have had mostly good experiences with this company, which
runs out of my home state.  I had one very interesting problem which
they did no cope with in a professional manner.  I ordered a mike
stand so that I could check out the quality to see if it would serve
the purposes of a campus group I was helping  outfit.  They sent me
a very satisfactory mike stand, so I ordered two for this group.  Guess
what?  They sent me a totally different model which was totally unsatis-
factory!  They did not find themselves able to send the  other type, so I
had to find another supplier.  I won't go into detail, except to say that
the three times I have had this type of problem, they  have CONSISTANTLY
dropped the ball, and covered up for each others mistakes.  I wind up with
a bunch of wasted time and nothing to show for it.
	The company who supplied the stands I wanted, and who have batted
1000 on the three orders I have placed to date is called Music Emporium.
Their number is 800-648-8460 .  Very competative group. -bob
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