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From: dwatts@ki.com (Dan Watts)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: Enhancement request for ELM filter command
Keywords: filter
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:22:52 GMT
Organization: ki Research, Inc

In article <1992Jul26.231451.9856@DSI.COM> syd@DSI.COM writes:
|cos@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Ofer Inbar) writes:
|>If 2.4 isn't going to have this feature, I'm going to write my own
|>replacement for filter that works as described above.  It probably
|>won't accept quite as broad a range of syntaxes for filter rules as
|>elm's filter, 'cause I won't take the trouble to do that, so it would
|>be better if elm filter added this feature and saved me the work :-)
|
|and on another users earlier comment writes...
|>>Hmm... I'll probably go hack something up while I await the next version
|>>of ELM.
|
|>If you do it before I do, send me a copy.  Same to anyone else.  I
|>probably won't be satisfied with anything short of what I described
|>above, though :-)
|
|Ok folks, every one asks for things in Filter for 2.4, but no one volunteers
|to work on them.  Well, I do have something to say about this....
|
|Filter is 'dying' because no one wants to work on it and fix/enhance it.
|Thus everyone complains, and no one does.  Fine, I can live with that.
|But, now someone comments that if we don't do it, they will take the
|time to 'write it over'.... Well, if you are going to take that time,
|why not enhance filter?

Someone pointed me to a program called deliver which is supposed to be
able to do everything I want and lots more.  I downloaded a copy from
UUNET but haven't yet found time to read the documentation.  The files
came with a review by a few people and it said deliver was a very good
program.

From the README file:

  $Id: README,v 1.10 1991/11/21 15:34:13 chip Exp $
  This is the README file for Deliver 2.1.09.



                             WHAT IS DELIVER?

  
  Deliver allows any user to write a shell script that processes all
  incoming mail messages for that user.  The system administrator may
  also install scripts that process all messages.
  
  The output of a script is a list of mail addresses, files and programs
  that should receive the message.  It has access to each message as it
  is processed, so the action can be content dependent.  The script may
  also generate automatic replies, like the "vacation" program, or pass
  along a modified version of the original message.
  
  Deliver can be used to construct mail-based services (e.g. automatic
  mailing list maintenance).  It can also be used to filter mail
  automatically in prearranged ways (e.g. encryption and decryption,
  tossing junk mail, or vacation notices).
  
  Although deliver works best when installed set-user-id root, it can
  perform many of its functions even when installed in the private bin
  directory of a regular user.
  
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm,comp.mail.misc
From: chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg)
Subject: Re: Enhancement request for ELM filter command
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:51:25 GMT
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL
Keywords: filter
Followup-To: comp.mail.misc

[ followups to comp.mail.misc ]

According to nigelm@ohm.york.ac.uk (Nigel Metheringham):
>There is a gap in the market (as seen by me!), for a [...] front-end
>to deliver to make it easy, painless and possibly even error free
>(syntactically at least) to generate deliver control files.

One of these days I'll write a special language parser into Deliver
so it won't have to spawn a subprocess in order to do simple delivery
direction.

Or perhaps not.  Deliver's pretty big already.

If someone were to show me how (read: if someone were to send me a
patch) to eliminate the yacc-based getdate.y, then I might not mind
adding an alias.y for a simple aliasing language.
-- 
Chip Salzenberg at Teltronics/TCT  <chip@tct.com>, <73717.366@compuserve.com>
   "Do Rush place weird subliminal backmasked messages in their songs to
 compel unwilling geeks to commit evil .sig atrocities?"  -- Dean Engelhardt
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Subject: Re: Automatically entering a Reply-to: field
X-Disclaimer: Not an official spokesperson for Ford OPEO
Reply-To: Mike O'Connor <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
Organization: International Affairs, Overseas Engineering, "Fordz"
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:26:34 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.040301.20322@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
bt850@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Anthony S. Galliford) writes:

:Is there anyone who can tell me how to get elm to fill in
:a reply-to: field in the header of each message I send.

Add the field to a file called ~/.elm/elmheaders.

:I am using ELM 2.4 PL17.

No, you're not.  :)

-- 
 Michael J. O'Connor           |  Internet:  mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com
 Ford Motor Company, OPEO      |  UUCP:      ...!{backbone}!fmsrl7!mjo
 20000 Rotunda, Bldg. 1-3001   |  Phone:     +1 (313) 248-1260
 Dearborn, MI  48121           |  Fax:       +1 (313) 323-6277
From: lobaugh@a.chem.upenn.edu (John Lobaugh)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: aix3.2 and elm2.3
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:55:13 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Originator: lobaugh@a.chem.upenn.edu

Sorry about this folks. royal@ichips.intel.com : I can't send
mail to you. Please email an alternate email address and I
will send the config.sh

John

-- 
John Lobaugh lobaugh@a.chem.upenn.edu "A cynical idealist" - Neil Peart
 
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: bbirnbau@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Bradley S. Birnbaum)
Subject: Newest Versions
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 23:17:20 GMT

Can someone please email the following information:
What is the newsest version of elm (with patchlevel)
Where may I find these versions?

Thanks in advance.

-- 
*****************************************************************************
Bradley S. Birnbaum               State University of New York at Stony Brook
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
SunOS:  bbirnbau@mathlab.sunysb.edu   VAX/VMS: bbirnbau@ccnova.cc.sunysb.edu
From: shin-jungshik@CS.YALE.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Date: 17 Jul 92 19:04 MDT
Subject: More than one name in Alias line ?
Nf-ID: #N:1992Jul17.150429.22485@news.yale:-110118737:001:1460
Nf-From: CS.YALE.EDU!shin-jungshik    Jul 17 19:04:00 1992


   I've just begun using ELM( 2.3 PL11) and found something different 
from what is described in 'ELM Alias System Users Guide'(May 1,1990)
obtained from dsinc.dsi.com

  I put this line in my 'aliases.text' file under ~/.elm.  

   yong, yonghae = Yonghae Kim = ykim@sparcs.kaist.ac.kr. 

  When I tried to send mail to him(Yonghae Kim), 'yong'(1st alias name
in the list) was resolved to full e-mail address(ykim@sparcs.kaist.ac.kr).
But, 'yonghae',the 2nd alias name for him was not resolved.  Accordingly,
in 'alias' submenu within ELM, 'yong' is found by 'P)erson' search,but 
'yonghae'(the 2nd) is not found by 'P' search. 
  I deleted space between two alias names and the result was the same
as with space. ('yong,yonghae' instead of 'yong, yonghae')

  The 2nd page of 'ELM Alias System Users Guide'(dated May 1,1990)
 has a example just like one above.  

   frank,minjarez = Frank Minjarez = Mijarez.Verify@dockmaster.arpa

  I'd like to know whether this feature(association of more than one name 
with one person in one line) was removed or has not been realized,yet.
  IMHO, it is a little more convenient to have this feature although without
it one can still associate more than one alias name with a single person
by having two seperate lines for each aliasname.  

   I would like you to consider this problem and to send me reply 
at jshin@minerva.cis.yale.edu if I missed something in 'alias'.  

   Thanks in advance.

   Jungshik Shin
From: QQ11@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK (Alan Thew)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: GNU readline incorporation into Elm 2.4
Date: 16 Jul 92 15:14:45 GMT
Organization: University of Liverpool

In article <9207111114.aa29777@maria.wustl.edu>, mike@maria.wustl.edu says:
>
>Is it planned?  It works out nicely in Intergraph Elm.
>
>Just wondering...
>
We'd really like this.
Alan Thew
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: bvaughan@lotka.Princeton.EDU (Barbara Vaughan)
Subject: newmail
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:35:35 GMT

Sometimes newmail informs me of the arrival of a letter not once, but
several times.  Does anyone know the reason for this?

Thanks,
Barbara Vaughan
bvaughan@opr.princeton.edu
From: msw10@nepenthe.as (Michael S. Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Segment Violations
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:30:19 GMT
Reply-To: msw10@nepenthe.as
Organization: Sun Microsystems

I'm running elm2.3p11, and get a segmentation violation everytime I try to save or
reply to a message with a long 'To' or 'CC' field. Any idea what could be causing this?
Thanks in Advance...

Michael Wong
msw10@ras.amdahl.com
From: mrgreen@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (matthew green)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Can ELM be resized without rerunning it?
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:13:39 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia

Hi,

My situation is this:

I run elm in a window in screen-3.2, which gets transported around a lot,
from various terminal, workstations, and as such, the rows/columns size
of my screen changes.  Sadly, ELM doesn't recognise the SIGWINCH, and so
I have to quit it and restart it each time I change window size.

Is there any chance that this has already been done?   Should I forget
about it, or even write the patch to add it myself?

Ta..

Matt..
mrgreen@ee.mu.oz.au
"Oh I never wanted this, Now everything is destroyed."
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Compile error and screen formatting under AIX?
Date: 27 Jul 92 19:28:55 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Hello folks,
   I have compiled ELM under AIX 3.2 with some success.  However
I did get one compiler error from "leavembox.c" that said:

"leavembox.c", line 390.30: 1506-045 (S) Undeclared identifier SIGIGN

When I looked into that file I found that SIGIGN was only used in one
location inside an #ifdef.  I commented out the line and the compile 
proceeded.  There was another error that referred back to the commmented
line, but it didn't stop the make.
   So, now ELM (2.3 PL11) seems to be working for me, but I don't kn
know what to do about that error.  Is there a patch I need to apply?

A second problem has to do with the screen size not being reecognized.
I have read some of the old messages in this group and I'm not sure
if some of the problems others have had are the same as mine, or perhaps
that line I commented out is the problem (the code really doesn't suggest
that to me).  Where do I find if my ELM is using -lcurses or -lterminfo?
I looked in the config.sh and some of the other files but didn't see it.

Thanks in advance for any hints or suggestions.

Bill Ranck
ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu

From: leongaw@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Ak Wing Leong)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:44:46 GMT
Subject: Re: how to find out elm account through full names?
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm

You will have to write to the varsity sysop to get their login names, or call 
up the sysop.

leong
From: lobaugh@a.chem.upenn.edu (John Lobaugh)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: elm2.4 and AIX3.2
Date: 29 Jul 92 02:56:51 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Originator: lobaugh@a.chem.upenn.edu

royal@ichips.intel.com,

My email to you doesn't seem to be making it and since this may
be of interest to people here I am posting to comp.elm.mail.

In summary: I tried to build elm2.4 under AIX 3.2 on a IBM RS6000.
I got a bug--whenever I received mail and kept it in /usr/spool/mail/user
after reading it I got an error saying: problems restoring permissions to
/usr/spool/mail/user. Upon exiting elm I found that elm had changed the 
group ownership on the file ./user from mail to that of the group of the
user. I subsequently (sp?) found out that elm2.4 is not officially released
or supported (it may be now--this was some months ago). So I got elm2.3
and built that with only one fix.
Run the regular Configure.  When it askes for :
   "Any additional cc flags"
         give it:
   -lcurses -U__STR__

   Then, when it lets you edit the config.sh file, search for :
          -ltermcap          (or was that -ltermlib.....)
   and erase it (Not the WHOLE line, just the -l... between the
           '')

John Lobaugh
-- 
John Lobaugh lobaugh@a.chem.upenn.edu "A cynical idealist" - Neil Peart
 
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
From: argv@zander.z-code.COM (Dan Heller)
Subject: New Open Look version
Reply-To: argv@z-code.z-code.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 16:19:01 GMT

To you mush-users out there that liked Mushview (the sunview version
of mush), there is now an open look version of Z-Mail, the descendant
of mush. It is open for beta testing right now, and you can ftp it     
from ora.com: pub/z-code/zmail/2.1beta/zm.ol.tar.Z -- we really need
feedback on this, so if you get it, mail me for an activation key and
you can play with it for a while.

  --dan

Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
From: ocl@cc.imperial.ac.UK (Olivier M.J. Crepin-Leblond)
Subject: Setting a 'in-reply-to' field
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:51:30 GMT

Hi,
   I am using version 7.2.3 of mush. When I answer messages, I'd like the
header of my answer to have the field "In-reply-to:" with the relevant
informastion. I believe that all I have to do is have: set in-reply-to
in my .mushrc
I have done that, but the In-reply-to field doesn't appear.
Something wrong ?
Hoping to get an answer soon, thanks,


-- 
Olivier M.J. Crepin-Leblond, Comms & Sig.Proc, Elec. Eng. Department
 Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine, London, UK.
   Internet/Bitnet: <ocl@cc.ic.ac.uk> - Janet: <ocl@uk.ac.ic.cc>
From: bart@zigzag.z-code.COM (Bart Schaefer)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
Subject: Re: Setting a 'in-reply-to' field
Date: 25 Jul 92 03:16:53 GMT
Reply-To: bart@zigzag.z-code.com
Organization: The Internet

On Jul 24,  3:51pm, Olivier M.J. Crepin-Leblond wrote:
} Subject: Setting a 'in-reply-to' field
}
}    I am using version 7.2.3 of mush. When I answer messages, I'd like the
} header of my answer to have the field "In-reply-to:" with the relevant
} informastion. I believe that all I have to do is have: set in-reply-to
} in my .mushrc

That's "set in_reply_to" (note underscores), not in-reply-to.  Also, you
have to set it to a string, e.g.

    set in_reply_to = "%n's message of %d, %s"

-- 
Bart Schaefer                                     schaefer@zigzag.z-code.com
Z-Code Software Corp.                             schaefer@z-code.com
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
From: jcm8@beech.lle.rochester.edu (Judy Mathers)
Subject: problem with mush under hp-ux
Organization: University of Rochester, Rochester NY
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 22:12:32 GMT

I'm running mush version 7.2.3 on both a hp 9000/730 running hpux 8.0.7
and a hp 9000/380 running hpux 8.0.  About 1/3 of the time, mail sent
with it gets confused.  Problems range from parts of the header being
duplicated into the body of the message to the whole body being
duplicated.  I've never had the headers themselves confused enough to
bounce the message.  It is mush that's causing the problem since the
duplications show up in my outgoing mail record.  This seems to be the
only problem with it.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what's causing the problem?

thanks,
judy mathers

mathers@atf.lle.rochester.edu
judy@gawain.cif.rochester.edu

Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
From: bart@zigzag.z-code.COM (Bart Schaefer)
Subject: 7.2.5 beta testers
Reply-To: bart@zigzag.z-code.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 08:11:26 GMT

I need a few people who fit the following profile to beta-test Mush 7.2.5
before I release the patch:

(1) You do any one or more of:
    (a)	Use SunView (or are willing to build and run the SunView version
	under OpenWindows)
    (b)	Get your mail from a POP3 server
    (c) Have metamail 2.3 installed and relatively freqeuntly get mail
	in MIME format

(2) You are relatively easy to reach by E-mail (I'm not able to spend a
    lot of time re-sending bounced messages).

Bonus points if you know SunView programming and are willing to actually
*look* at the patch rather than just building it.

There are still a couple of other things that should go into this patch
if I can find the time, but I might as well get some testing done of
the parts that are ready.

-- 
Bart Schaefer                                     schaefer@zigzag.z-code.com
Z-Code Software Corp.                             schaefer@z-code.com
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
From: mahesh@widget.evb.com (B.G. Mahesh)
Subject: how to use 'tcsh' with mush ?
Reply-To: mahesh@evb.com
Organization: SETT Inc.
Affiliate-Of: EVB Software Engineering, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 01:14:00 GMT

I have defined my shell to be tcsh in both .mailrc and
.mushrc. But I can't use the TAB key from the mail prompt.
I can use CONTROL-D to get the list of possible completions
of that command or filenames. I want to use the tab key so
that it will save me the trouble of typing the entire filename.
How do I do this ?


thanks
-- 

Mahesh
mahesh@evb.com
From: bart@zigzag.z-code.COM (Bart Schaefer)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
Subject: Re: Testing for new messages
Date: 25 Jul 92 03:22:34 GMT
Reply-To: bart@zigzag.z-code.com
Organization: The Internet

On Jul 17, 12:52am, Lamont Granquist wrote:
} Subject: Testing for new messages
}
} This is pretty simple.  I'm using mush 7.2.2 and all I want to do is
} put something in my .mushrc file that says:
} 
} if <I have any new messages>  /* or <the last message is new> would work */
}   do such-and-such-crap.
} endif

You can't do that in .mushrc, because .mushrc is read before the folder
has been loaded.

What you can do is create another file (e.g., .mushfilter) and put in
it something like

    :n | set new
    if $?new
	do such-and-such-crap
    endif

And then read it by using:

    mush -F ~/.mushfilter

Mush will read your regular init files, then load the folder, then read
the .mushfilter file, and finally continue into the regularly scheduled
user interface.

You may wish to have the last line of .mushfilter be

    headers

because the -F option implies -N (no headers).

-- 
Bart Schaefer                                     schaefer@zigzag.z-code.com
Z-Code Software Corp.                             schaefer@z-code.com
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
From: bart@zigzag.z-code.COM (Bart Schaefer)
Subject: Re: how to use 'tcsh' with mush ?
Reply-To: bart@zigzag.z-code.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 15:14:14 GMT

On Jul 26,  1:14am, B.G. Mahesh wrote:
} Subject: how to use 'tcsh' with mush ?
}
} I have defined my shell to be tcsh in both .mailrc and
} .mushrc. But I can't use the TAB key from the mail prompt.

Mush is a shell, like tcsh, so when mush is running, tcsh is politely
waiting for mush to be finished using your terminal.  So your tcsh
key bindings don't work.

} I can use CONTROL-D to get the list of possible completions
} of that command or filenames. I want to use the tab key so
} that it will save me the trouble of typing the entire filename.
} How do I do this ?

The default completion character is escape, but you can change it to
tab with:

	set complete = '\t\CD'	# \t == tab, \CD == ctrl-D

If you set complete like this:

	set complete = '\t\t'

Then when you press tab, if the completion is unique, the name will
be filled in, but if the completion matches a list of file names, the
list will be displayed automatically (as if you had typed ctrl-D).

-- 
Bart Schaefer                                     schaefer@zigzag.z-code.com
Z-Code Software Corp.                             schaefer@z-code.com
From: arnold@synopsys.com (Arnold de Leon)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
Subject: realname not being initialized correctly
Summary: realname getting initialized spooldir
Keywords: realname mush
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:39:16 GMT
Organization: Synopsys, Inc.


Mush Version 7.2.4

The following code fragrament from init.c seems indicate that the 
HOMEMAIL stuff was added in the wrong place.

"realname" is copied from buf which will contain the name of the 
spool file.


#ifdef HOMEMAIL
    strdup(spoolfile, sprintf(buf, "%s/%s", home, MAILFILE));
#else /* HOMEMAIL */
    if ((p = getenv("MAIL")) && *p)
	strdup(spoolfile, p);
    else
	strdup(spoolfile, sprintf(buf, "%s/%s", MAILDIR, login));
#endif /* HOMEMAIL */
    mailfile = "";

    if (realname && *buf) {
	/* realname has already been copied to buf */
	argv[0] = "realname";
	argv[2] = buf;
	(void) add_option(&set_options, argv);
    }


Moving the "realname" back just after the other code
that seems to be related to it seems to fix the problem.

It this correct?

	arnold
-- 
Arnold de Leon  			arnold@synopsys.com
Network Manager				Synopsys Inc.
(415) 694-4183				700 E. Middlefield Road
					Mtn. View, CA 94043-4033
From: maffeis@ifi.unizh.ch (Silvano Maffeis)
Newsgroups: comp.doc.techreports
Subject: UNIZH TR: The PARFORM: A High Performance Platform for Parallel
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:47:20 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; Committee for Open Access Computing
NNTP-Posting-Host: midgard.ucsc.edu
Originator: golding@midgard


ifi-tr-92.07                   (available electronically as ifi-92.07.ps.Z)

Abstract

The typical workstation in a LAN is idle during large periods of time. 
Under the concept of a hypercomputer this unused, distributed computing power
can be put at the disposal of the user. The dynamic, heterogeneous, and 
distributed environment calls for a platform taking care of transparency,
parallelization, load balancing and other issues. We describe such a system 
which, by optimized design and dynamic load distribution, proves faster 
than many related approaches. Performance measurements and an analytic model 
on scalability are presented for an explicit finite difference PDE solver.


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