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From: tiwary@cs.washington.edu (Ashutosh Tiwary)
Subject: US Citizen to Green Card
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering Dept., Univ. of Washington, Seattle
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Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 02:19:56 GMT

One of my relatives is a US citizen and is interested in reverting back to
his indian citizenship and remain a permanent resident of the US and
retain his green card. Is this at all possible and if so, how does one
go about doing this. Does any one have any experience with this.

Thanks in advance for your help.

- Ashutosh
tiwary@cs.washington.edu
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
From: jihuang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jianzhong Huang)
Subject: LC in ohio
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 22:05:34 GMT

Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
Subject: LC in Ohio.
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Ohio State University
Keywords: 

I currently apply for Labor certificate in the state of ohio. I felt
that the Ohio Bureau of Employment Services is extreamly bureaucratic,
it took me 111 days(3 month more) to get first response, and they did 
very lousy jon in reviewing my 750A/B, after I sent out my response
material, it has been 40 days, and they said I still need to wait
about another 30 days to get my file reviewed. I am wondering if
some netters here have been victimized by such slow process. What is
the situation in other states. My freind statred filing at almost
same time as me in Utah, now he already got his L.C.

I am working in a Columbus based high tech company, my employer feel
very uncomprehensible that such a simple thing should take such long
time.


I would like to share my feeling with some netters out there who are also
in the hands of O.B.E.S.


Rulong Chen
614-299-0795

P.S.

When looking for a job, try to avoid Ohio. Also , when you make you future
in the U.S, try to invest somewhere else. 


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From: george@sting.ece.ncsu.edu (George J. Gad El-Karim)
Subject: post completion practical training permit
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:28:04 GMT

Hello everybody:
Does anybody know how long it takes to obtain
a post completion practical training permit. 
Is there a way to ask about the status of the
application?

You can mail your response on my address:
george@bach.ece.ncsu.edu

Thanks in advance! 

George.
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
From: hatu@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Hanming Tu)
Subject: B-1 To F-1
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:52:49 GMT


Hi, everyone,

I posted some questions about B1 to F1 and received many requests for
information, but not many responses. Here is the information I heard from one
of my classmates (let's name him A): two years ago, A's friend had the same
situation that my freind has now, except in three points: 1) A's friend had a
fellowship; 2) A's friend had enough time to change visa (two month ahead of
the quarter's beginning); 3) that was two years ago. The documents needed for
the visa change are: I-20, letter from the department, financial support, I-94
card, letter from the applicant to state why the applicant have got B1 visa but
F1 visa. The waiting time is about a month and half. This successful case
happened two years ago. Things have been changed. My friend has consulted his
advisor. What he got is the fact that he must go back if he cannot change his
status timely and successfully. He has received some suggestions. One of them
is to get a lawyer. If this is true, can anyone give me some info about lawyers
specialized in immigration law.

Regards!

H. Tu
-----        For your convenience, the following is my pre-questions:

>I have a friend who just came to the United States. He is holding a B-1 visa
>to attend a conference. He has been admitted as a graduate student at OSU. So
>after the conference, he is ganna be a student who is required to hold F-1
>visa or other kinds of legal visas. The I-94 card my freind is holding stays
>that he can stay in the States  legally for three months with B-1 visa. My
>questions are:

>1) Is it possible for him to change B-1 to F-1 or other visa with which he
>   can  lawfully study in the university. The OSU has given him I-20 and he
>   has financial support from his relatives.
>2) What is the requirements to switch from B-1 to F-1? Changing visa status
>   normally takes one or two months. My freind will start his studying in
>   Fall quarter. Can he be a student with B-1 visa during the waiting period
>   of changing visa?

>All responses will be greatly appreciated!

>H. Tu
>-----
>hatu@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
Subject: Re: test
From: Shvetank Shah <ss7k+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 11:04:26 -0400 
Organization: Masters student, Urban and Public Affairs, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

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From: vasisn@vccsouth27.its.rpi.edu (Niraj Vasishtha)
Subject: Economic Hardship for F-1/F-2
Reply-To: vasisn@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:28:31 GMT


Somedays back I read information or rather a discussion on the viability and criteria for obtaining a work permit for F-1/F-2. I would be obliged if someone
could post any information on the same.
 

Niraj Vasishtha 
vasisn@rpi.edu
From: dasu@sscux1.ssc.gov (Sridhara Dasu)
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
Subject: Re: SUMMARY OF REPLIES : Changing employer while on H-1
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:13:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: SSC Laboratory, Dallas, TX


In article <1992Aug13.133621.27758@risky.ecs.umass.edu> vaidya@ganzer.ecs.umass.edu () writes:

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   From: vaidya@ganzer.ecs.umass.edu ()
   Sender: vaidya@risky.ecs.umass.edu ( Nitin H. Vaidya)
   Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
   Distribution: usa
   Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:36:21 GMT
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   (a) would it be possible to obtain another H-1 visa?

Yes. I did it. I worked for Stanford on H-1 and I am now in UW-Madison

   (b) can I obtain the new H-1 visa for my second job while I am working
       on my first job?

Yes. UW-Madison applied for my H-1 while I was still with Stanford

   (c) As I understand it, an H-1 visa is associated with a particular
       job/employer. This seems to lead to a difficult situation. I cannot
       take up the second job until I have an H-1 visa for that job; and I
       cannot get that visa unless I give up the first job. And if I give up
       the first job, until I get the next H-1, I would not have a legal
       status !!!! Is there a way out of this ????

No you don't have to give up job 1, while job 2 H-1 is being processed.
Ofcourse, H-1 for job 1 should still be valid.

   (d) how long would it take to get H-1 the second time?

The same amount of time as for the first H-1. i.e. about 1-2 months


			- Sridhara Dasu
From: cahuja@twerp.ease.arco.com (Chander Ahuja)
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
Subject: SPOUSE REUNIFICATION Petitions available
Keywords: P2 , spouses, PSR
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:32:34 GMT
Reply-To: cahuja@twerp.ease.arco.com (Chander Ahuja)
Organization: Atlantic Richfield Company (EASE group), Dallas , TX


Hi,

if anyone would like to join the effort in getting bills S2385 and HR4275
which would allow spouses of PR's to visit the US while awaiting their
immigrant visas, PSR has started a petition drive.

Basically, if you are interested, we need people to sign the petition and get their like minded friends/relatives to do the same and mail it in to PSR, who will then forward copies to relevant people (Senate/House Judiciary
and immigration committees). Also, you can make copies and send to your local congressional representatives and senators (addresses supplied if you need)

If you are interested in obtaining the petitions, please send an email to me and i can send you these. Please specify if you can handle a Postscript file or need an ASCII version.

send request to:   cahuja@ease.arco.com

thanks.

-chander
usual disclaimers.....
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
From: e422sk@tamsun.tamu.edu (Kalara Sunny)
Subject: classic trap: Recent green card holders please help
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 04:36:12 GMT

Hi Folks :


A freind of mine has fallen in to this classic trap,
a trap one dreads the most, of losing his job couple
of months before the final green card interview.

Labor certification process and filing for change of
status procedures are all done. 

His interview date is set at 1st September and he
lost his job in mid may.

Can he use the employment letter dated in mid may?

Do the immigration officer even ask for the employment letter?

If you have recently gone through this process please
e-mail to me.

If you have any other suggestions please fire away.

Thankyou very much.

-Sunny Kalara
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
From: pmullins@cs.ulowell.edu ([Irish Harp])
Subject: Permanent residence for people in the sciences.......
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 03:21:17 GMT


Hi,

I wonder if someone can answer the following question. I have heard that 
people from foreign countries who have done their undergrad, grad and possibly
thier post-grad studies in the sciences in the US may apply for a 'green 
card'/permanent residence. Specifically, I have heard that a certain numbers 
of permanent visas are awarded each year to people who fall into the above 
category.

Is this true or just another false rumor that dashes the hopes of this 
poor soul as he attempts to someday get a permanent visa?

regards,

Patrick
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Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
From: sonecha@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Vatsal P. Sonecha)
Subject: Re: Payment of Soc. Security/Medicare taxes for F-1 on Practical training
Organization: Advanced Integrated Solutions
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:40:41 GMT


No, one should not have to pay FICA nor Medicare on F-1 practical training.
I did not have to. But yes it was difficult to convince my compnay about
that. They clearly benefit, because they have to match the amount you pay.
Moreover, you might just  have to show them your University paystubs where
no FICA or Medicare was withheld or make them talk to their tax-consultant.
But once withheld, they have to turnin such withholdings every quarter. It
is very difficult, if not almost impossible, to get that money back with
your tax return at the end of the year (Incidently, that will be one of the
suggested alternatives/knee-jerk reactions from you employer).

Vatsal


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Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
From: harish@vlsisj.uucp (Harish Balan)
Subject: Visitor -> H4 info wanted
Reply-To: harish@vlsisj.uucp (Harish Balan)
Organization: Compass Design Automation/VLSI Technology, Inc. (San Jose)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 00:30:05 GMT

	Could there be a problem if one were to apply for a change of
status from B1 (visitor) to an H4 while remaining in the US.  I was told
that getting an H4 from OUTSIDE the US is trivial but dont know too 
much about what it is like to get it done within the States.

	Any info would be highly appreciated.

	Thanks
	Harish

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Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
From: bauwens@acs.ucalgary.ca (Luc Bauwens)
Subject: Re: classic trap: Recent green card holders please help
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 02:32:03 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Aug22.043612.2191@tamsun.tamu.edu> e422sk@tamsun.tamu.edu (Kalara Sunny) writes:
>Hi Folks :
>
>
>A freind of mine has fallen in to this classic trap,
>a trap one dreads the most, of losing his job couple
>of months before the final green card interview.
>
>Labor certification process and filing for change of
>status procedures are all done. 
>
>His interview date is set at 1st September and he
>lost his job in mid may.
>
>Can he use the employment letter dated in mid may?
>
>Do the immigration officer even ask for the employment letter?


That misses the point.  My lawyer advised me that I should
stay on the job for at least a year after getting a green card.
(I actually walked out of the process when current but before
filing for change of status).

You are supposed to get permanence residence in order to take
that job.  If the job is no longer there, you don't qualify for a green
card, no matter what the procedure may be.

Immigration may not discover, but if a neighbor learns about it
and denounces you (or your wive divorces ten years later and
denounces you) to the INS, they would have grounds for 
cancelling your permanent residence (and perhaps even a
naturalization?).

So, I guess it's a no no.  Better stick to the law.

Luc B
From: stella@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Ricky "Suave" Stella)
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
Subject: Re: Payment of Soc. Security/Medicare taxes for F-1 on Practical training
Date: 19 Aug 92 04:28:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

kumar@ra.csc.ti.com (Sundeep Kumar) writes:

>Does a F-1 student on Post-Completion Practical Training need to pay
>Soc. Security and Medicare tax when hired by a company for the period
>of his Practical taining ? Note, the student is not on a H-1 or any other
>work Visa.

>If the student need not pay this tax, how does he convince the employer not
>to cut this from his paycheck ?

>--Sundeep Kumar

NO.

He must inform his employer and the employer must stop deducting for FICA,
Unemployment, etc...

Only thing you an F-1 student should be deducted is FIT and state Income TAX.

BTW, the employer must refund the money already deducted...

DISCLAIMER: This are only my own opinions and views...

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From: rajiv@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Rajiv Arora)
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
Subject: Re: Sneaky ex-husband
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:32:11 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Aug18.191351.27349@news.iastate.edu> LB.NKA@isumvs.iastate.edu (Nubi Achebo) writes:
>
>A friend of mine has a serious problem and would need expert advice
>from anybody in this group.

While this group is useful for getting procedural and anecdotal advice, and
respondents are well-meaning in their responses, the situation you described
is an unusual and serious one.

I would suggest that your friend's best bet is to seek legal help as soon as
possible and not rely on free help (no matter how well meaning) from strangers.

Good luck to her!

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From: ss7k+@andrew.cmu.edu (Shvetank Shah)
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
Subject: FICA TAxes and Reimbursement
Date: 22 Aug 92 14:12:12 GMT
Organization: Masters student, Urban and Public Affairs, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Let's try this a second time, as my modem hung up on me.....Is there a formal
pr
ocedure to collect FICA contributions back that were paid during one's stay in
t
he US, if one chooses not to retire here?  Since FICA is a state-sponsored
retir
ement scheme, it seems to make sense that one could withdraw from it if
one left the country.  Any ideas?  Please email me as typing this on a
2400 baud line is a terrible experience, and reading a bboard is even
worse ;-)

shvetank
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From: 5247cuid@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
Subject: Visa question
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:03:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: vms.0095F3A5.2A7EE380
Reply-To: 5247cuid@vms.csd.mu.edu
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services

Dear netters:

	I have a friend with F-1 visa. Recently, his graduate program
was terminated by our school due to less academic progress. He is trying
to find another school to attend. He has a question: legally, how long
can he stay here? Because right now is not a good time to apply for
school (too late for the fall, 1992), we want to know how to handle this 
problem. Any suggestion would be great. 

	Thank you in advance.

				Sincerely Yours,


				Dayong Cui
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us,soc.culture.indian
From: atri@eecs.umich.edu (Atri Indiresan)
Subject: Re: transit visa for Germany
Organization: University of Michigan
	<1992Aug12.201755.229722@cs.cmu.edu>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 22:41:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.201755.229722@cs.cmu.edu> michal+@cs.cmu.edu (Michal Prussak) writes:

> So, you might go without a transit visa and see what happens. I would think
> that once you land in Frankfurt, the Germans will prefer to see you leave,
> so they would escort you to your gate even if it means going outside the
> transit area. And I can't imagine that airline clerks in America will check
> if you have the transit visa.

Airline staff can, and do, check for visas before they permit
boarding. This is done since many countries fine the airlines for
bringing in "illegal" people. If the rules require a transit visa in
advance, it would be foolhardy to do otherwise.

> At another time I was flying through London (without a transit visa), and

The UK doesn't require a transit visa in advance, if you have a
confirmed onward reservation within 24 hours. If your onward flight is
from the same airport, the immigration official may or may not issue a
transit visa, at his/her discretion. If you stay in the transit
lounge, no visa is required.

I went through Canada, and had to get a transit visa in advance even
though I knew in advance that we wouldn't even be allowed off the
'plane! The visa was checked at boarding time, both while flying from
the US to UK and on the way back too.

Atri
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
From: jens@seas.gwu.edu (Jens Johansen)
Subject: Does anyone know about the Green Card lottery process?
Originator: jens@seas.gwu.edu
Organization: George Washington University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 00:54:41 GMT

Hullo,

The title says it all...  How do I get in on the Green Card lottery thing?
I know I am in the right national group, but I have no idea about what to
file where, and when, or even where to get the blank paper work...

Thanks in advance

Jens

PS--Please respond by e-mail, since I don't often read this group.

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Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 09:01:23 EDT
From: Aengus Lawlor <RBYAML@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
Subject: Re: Green card lottery

In article <philipc.714090282@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU>, philipc@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU
(Philip Clifford) says:
>
>Does anyone have any details of the 1992 Green Card
>Lottery, like who's eligible to apply, how & when ??
>Who are they likely to choose ?
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>
>philipc
This was posted by George Reilly in various groups a few weeks ago. I'm
just reposting it.

Aengus
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From: reddy@cis.njit.edu (Kishore P. Reddy)
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
Subject: VISA GURUS: Extending the Visiting Visa
Date: 22 Aug 92 04:21:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology


	Hi Netters!

	Please provide the information regarding the extension of visiting visa
	and the best and easy way to proceed. Please send me any info. or your
	experiences in this matter. Thanx in advance.

	-
	Kishore
From: phaniraj@plains.NoDak.edu (V. Phaniraj)
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
Subject: Info. on H-1 in Mexico/Canada/India
Date: 19 Aug 92 16:53:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

Hi

I have to travel out of the U.S to get a H-1 visa, and am considering
going to Mexico (Ciudad Juarez), Canada or India (Bombay). A while ago
there was a detailed posting explaining the mechanics of how to
go about reaching the various consulates ; this article has expired
on our news system. Could someone please send me a copy of this
; I believe it was one of the first few articles on this newsgroup.

Any comments on the choice between various Mexican/Indian/Canadian
consulates is welcome.

Thanks

V. Phaniraj

phaniraj@plains.nodak.edu
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From: skanga@prism.poly.edu (Shiraz Kanga)
Subject: Optimal time & place for marriage
Organization: Polytechnic University, New York
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 07:25:04 GMT

I've heard confilcting opinions on this so I was wondering whether any
net.visa.gurus would be able to shed some light! In the regular F1 to
PT to H1 to green card process when and where is the optimal time and
place for marriage.

skanga@prism.poly.edu
skanga@oracle.com

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