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From: mikeho@seeker.mystic.com (Michael Ho)
Subject: Re: Stores / cheap food near WDW
Organization: Mystic Software Pittsburg, Ca
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:31:25 GMT

In article <Rich_Koster.0ytu@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US> Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster) writes:

[lots of good stuff]

>There is a very pleasant supermarket called Goodings in the Crossroads
>Shopping center near the WDW Village Marketplace.  Head away from WDW
>Village Marketplace on the road that takes you to the Grosvenor,
>Hilton and the other Village hotels, ...

Hotel Plaza Boulevard.  Very good advice.

Also, there are genuine U.S. Mail stamp machines in certain places in
the World;  the one I'm thinking of is near the lockers, by Spaceship 
Earth in EPCOT.  There are probably others;  ask a cast member.  (These
machines sell stamps with no markup and no tax... plus they take paper
money, not just coins.)
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From: torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair)
Subject: Re: Annette receives "Disney Legends Award"
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 04:26:28 GMT

Do you work for Disney Comics?  Because if you do, you should know that Carl
Barks ("the good duck artist") recently won the award.  I believe Disney had
a big parade at the Team Disney complex.  For those who do not know who Carl
Barks is, he is the sole creator of Uncle Scrooge, the Beagle Boys, Magica De
Spell, Gyro Gearloose, and Gladstone Gander.  The animated series "Duck Tales"
is based on the comic book work of Carl Barks.  
	How good is he?  Well, since Disney had a silly rule about listing 
creative talents in it's comic books, readers learned to recognize Barks' 
style!  His ducks have physical characteristics that differ from the studio 
versions.
	And while you're at the comic book store, look for Floyd Gottferdsen's
Mickey Mouse newspaper strips from the 1930's.  This is why I hate the modern
(post-labotomy) Mickey Mouse.  (Compare the black and white Mickey cartoons 
to the later "Fred MacMurry" Mickey.

Torsten at Omaha
From: u9227164@cc.uow.edu.au (Neil P Dillon)
Subject: Disney CDs
Summary: Disney CDs
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 09:13:56 GMT

I am looking for any Disney CDs that might want to be sold or traded.  
I am a huge Disney fan and am looking for just about anything.
I have Fantasia, and a few others, but I could really do with some
more.  I f anyone has any, E-mail me with a list and we'll talk!!!!

Neil P. Dillon
u9227164@cc.uow.edu.au
From: ultron@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Andrew H Krieg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Fantasmic CD
Date: 6 Nov 1992 17:42:55 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

Once again I am looking for information on the Fantasmic CD.

Has anyone who has been to Disneyland recently seen this CD in any of the
stores?  I tried to order it from the Disney catalog division and
Disneyland's own merchandise division.  They said it was out of stock and
they weren't going to get anymore.  They directed me to Buena Vista records.
After being bounced around several departments there, I became frustrated and
gave up.

I would appreciate any information in tracking down this elusive CD.
-- 
=     Andrew Krieg	| 						=
= krieg@titan.med.ge.com|  Treguna   Mekoides   Trecorum   Satis   Dee	=
=	   or		|						=
= krieg@point.cs.uwm.edu| 				    - Astoroth	=
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From: andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman)
Subject: Re: Beauty and the Beast inconsistencies...
Organization: Computer Science Department,  Stanford University.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:26:56 GMT

The listed "inconsistencies" aren't inconsistencies.  They are
instances of differences between the way our reality works and the way
reality works in BatB-world.

For example, animated characters don't fall until they look down.
Spilled stuff (like gears, from Cogsworth, or fluid, during "Be Our
Guest") disappears unless it has an important role later on.  Navels
have lids, like eyes, but no brows or lashes so they "disappear" when
closed.  Mass isn't conserved and bottles hold "enough".

-andy
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From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Be Our Guest parody
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:15:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: optima.26185
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <BxFGMF.9n@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, ajmiller@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Arkayn) writes:
> In <1d6u12INNesq@aludra.usc.edu> rsteele@aludra.usc.edu (Richard Steele) writes:
> You know, Richard, in the US there is also such a thing as responsibility and
> good taste, although they are getting harder to find. As one of the last
> bastions of good taste, Disney should not be subjected to assaults such as this

 Look - I'll try not to say much more about this issue but this statement really
shouldn't go unchallenged. Disney as the "last bastion of good taste"??? Give
me a break please.  They're a money-making operation and if they thought that
a lesbian action scene with Ariel and Belle in their next film would get 
them 10 years worth of earnings they'd do it in a minute. This really has
to be the furthest I've seen Disney worship taken, even in this group. They
shouldn't be "subjected to assaults such as this"??? So tell me - who
should? Should we outlaw parodies? If not, then why is Disney an exception?
Sometimes you'd think we were talking about the Catholic church for God's
sake - get a grip folks it was a parody of a damn children's cartoon - that's
all - I didn't find it funny but the idea that Disney is untouchable is absurd.

> This filth has no place on this newsgroup.

 Says who? *You* don't like it so it doesn't belong? It was a DISNEY parody and
as such I'd guess it fits into a Disney group pretty well. Face it - if you
and others weren't bent on trying to control what others see you wouldn't
have a problem with it. Even though you can easily skip such articles and
even though they are clearly marked for folks like you to avoid, you insist
that they should not belong - why? Because - you folks are driven to tell
others what they can see or hear - you are determined to dictate to everyone
what is OK to read and what is not - well I for one do not need your
judgements rammed down my throat - I'll decide whether to read or skip such
articles on my own....

			gln
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From: collins_w@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: Prince Eric in TLM TV series **SPOILERS**
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 11:15:47 GMT

In article <1dlsoaINNc97@ub.d.umn.edu>, jrowliso@ub.d.umn.edu (Jon) writes:
> I was blown away!  I was wondering since this series started... "Are they
> going to keep the tv show completely seperate from the movie?"  Well, in the
> last episode they showed Ariel swim up to the surface to find out information
> about the function of the "thing-a-magig" that we call a boot.  They showed
> Prince Eric jump into the water with a knife to cut a dolphin free and they
> get back out.  Ariel saw him and said something like, "Not all humans are
> evil!  Oh, if only I could only see his face."
   Having not seen the movie, I didn't recognize him. But I got a feeling
that there was something special about him (I even asked myself "Could
this be Prince Eric?").


> He got back out of the water again and walked off.  Ariel took the boots he
> had thrown into the water since the water had 'ruined them' and brought them
> back to the kingdom.  At that point she started her human "treasure cave"
> that her father blew up in the movie.
   And another movie reference (I completely missed this one). Maybe it
is time to see the movie? :-)


> I'm glad to see the Disney animators working on getting a bit of consistency
> in the series compared to the movie.  The only thing that remains now is
> Scuttle and Ursula.
   Maybe Disney is going to slowly build up to adding Prince Eric &
Ursula. Then the series will have added two of the three important
missing elements that I described earlier that makes "Saban's Adventures
of The Little Mermaid" so good. Maybe the Disney series will continue
to improve?

   Then all Disney has to do is have Ariel get Marina to lend her some of
her Potion of Change, and then the Disney series will have all three missing
elements! :-)  Now I can imagine this episode: "Saban's Adventures of The
Little Mermaid" guest stars on "Disney's The Little Mermaid". Flounder &
Bobo would probably get along fine. Urchin can play with Barnabus. But the
most interesting pairing would be Ursula & Hedwig. I don't know very much
about Ursula, but if she is anything like Hedwig, they would be constantly
trying to outdo each other (Hedwig wants to be the absolute ruler of the
world).  :-) :-)

   
   Maybe some people gave up on the Disney series too early?


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From: cscon134@uoft02.utoledo.edu (John Heiden UNIVERSITY OF TOLEDO)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Clinton/Hall of Presidents
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:46:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: uoft02.1992Nov6.144616.11013
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

In article <1992Nov4.213650.16110@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>, mangieri@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov writes:
> So, do you suppose the imagineers are being activated to create
> a Bill Clinton audio-animitronic for the Hall of Presidents in the
> Magic Kingdom?
> 
> When was Bush added?
> 
> Just curious. 
-- 
I'm not sure when Bush was added, but it wasn't right after his
inauguration, I think.

But as for working on Clinton, I'm sure they have already done the
sculpturing.  I'd be surprised if they haven't sculpted Perot as well.

I remember seeing something before the election of '84 and '88, where
they showed sculptures of Mondale and Dukakis that were completed.
But that didn't mean that audio-animatronics had been constructed, though.


John Heiden
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                                       Dept. of Computer Services

CSCON134@Uoft02.UTOLEDO.EDU            The University of Toledo
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From: bob@stardust.Convergent.Com (Bob Lee )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Where is Disney's Little Mermaid series?
Keywords: mermaid
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:17:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Unisys Open Systems Group, San Jose

Someone in a previous posting indicated that "The Little Mermaid" was
being shown locally on KHBK channel 44 at 7:30 AM. The time was right,
but the channel was wrong. It is being shown on (forget the call letters)
channel 20.

--
bob
From: lgb2@po.CWRU.Edu (Linda G. Brashear)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Aladdin Soundtrack:  Lyrical Feel?
Date: 12 Nov 1992 05:06:00 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


Yes, I definitely think there was a different feel between the Ashman
and Rice songs.  I managed to guess who did all of them after hearing
them a couple of times.  Basically, I went off of my memory of hearing
Jesus Christ Superstar (I never saw/heard Chess--bummer) and the fact 
that the Rice songs definitely didn't say "Howard wrote this" to me.
It will be interesting to see how the different styles fit the different
parts of the movie.  
Linda
-- 
"Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding"
					--Proverbs 3:5
"Aw, Mom, you act like I'm not even wearing a bungie cord!"--Calvin
"It's barbaric, but hey, it's home"--"Arabian Nights" from --Aladdin--
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From: chuck@cygnus.eid.anl.gov (Charles Cilek)
Subject: Meanings of names
Reply-To: chuck@cygnus.eid.anl.gov
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Argonne, Illinois
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:26:14 GMT

We all know that Belle means beauty, but does Gaston mean anything in
French?



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From: mikeho@seeker.mystic.com (Michael Ho)
Subject: Re: Aladdin and Prince Eric
Organization: Mystic Software Pittsburg, Ca
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:46:41 GMT

That's funny... somebody was passing through a Disney store when I was
in there, and she commented:  "Look, the girl from Aladdin is just Ariel
with dark hair."

I beg to differ -- the faces are different to my eye -- but you're not the
only one to notice similarities with former characters.  I guess there are
a finite number of ways to draw distinct animated characters.  :-)

(Running for the door lest I be pelted with half-used ink pens...)
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From: whong-bo@cs.yale.edu (Chun Bo Whong)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Mary Poppins
Date: 13 Nov 1992 21:23:56 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: lion.zoo.cs.yale.edu

Can anyone tell me if there's any truth to the rumour about Disney's plan for a
a remake/sequel to Mary Poppins with Sarah Brightman - of Phantom of the Opera
fame - as Mary Poppins?  I really LIKE Sarah Brightman and the role of Mary 
Poppins would be ABSOLUTELY PERFECT for her!!!

-- 
Just a spoonful of sugar, you know...
From: sroka@evax.gdc.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: monorail FAQ
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:11:02 GMT
Organization: General DataComm, Middlebury CT

Anders Wass writes:
> In article <1992Nov3.161106.21483@csc.ti.com>, holliman@sounder.csc.ti.com (Ed Holliman) writes:
> 
>> >* who actually builds the monorail trains ? I recall that the
>> >original design  (Alweg ?) was of Swiss origin, but this could
>> >be related to the first DL monorail only.
> 
> Actually Alweg is of Swedish origin. The weg portion stands for Wennergren, who
> was a famous Swedish industrialist.
> 
> Trivia: What other important system at WDW comes from Sweden?
> 
Just a shot-in-the-dark, but how about the AVAC system?
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From: vibrad@guardian.austin.ibm.com (v$ibrad)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Aladdin CD Release?
Keywords: trivia
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:08:42 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: IBM, Austin

I saw the Aladdin Soundtrack in the Disney store ($18 though).. I decided
to check out Camelot Music and Tracks and neither had gotten the CD in yet.
 
But it is available right now from the Disney Store if you can't wait. 
I can.
 
Brad
From: lgb2@po.CWRU.Edu (Linda G. Brashear)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Official Disney CD List
Date: 10 Nov 1992 19:42:18 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


The record label for the following recordings was ??? on the list, so
I pulled out all my cassettes and found that they were all Walt Disney
Records:
	The Rescuers Down Under Soundtrack
	Oliver and Co. Soundtrack
	The Little Mermaid Soundtrack
	The Disney Collection (I have Vol. 3 only, I suspect 1 and 2 are same)
Great listening!  I love Disney songs!
Linda
-- 
"Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding"
					--Proverbs 3:5
"Aw, Mom, you act like I'm not even wearing a bungie cord!"--Calvin
"It's barbaric, but hey, it's home"--"Arabian Nights" from --Aladdin--
From: cs64fad@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney Overlap: A Legacy in Song box set
Date: 12 Nov 92 02:10:25 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <BxK723.9p7@unix.amherst.edu> atzachar@unix.amherst.edu (Aladdin) writes:
>Andrew Krieg, Man or Android? (krieg@titan.med.ge.com) wrote:
>>     
>> 	They mention "Once Upon A Time in New York City" by Ashman and Menken,
>> 	as if it was going to be included.
>
>Actually, the lyrics for "Once Upon A Time in New York City" were my Ashman,
>but Menken did not write the music.  I can't remember who did.

It was Barry Mann whose name was beside Ashman's for the song.  The
name seems so familiar, but I don't actually know if he's a composer
or a lyricist (or both).  If he didn't compose, then it was probably
J.A.C. Redford (it wasn't Billy Joel).


- Robert Cook
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From: wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (August Paul Yang)
Subject: Re: Beauty and the Beast inconsistencies...
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:20:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.162324.4242@mcs.anl.gov> chuck@cygnus.eid.anl.gov writes:
>What about the fact that all of these French people speak and
>sing in English? :-)
Nah.  They swiped a couple of universal translators from Star Trek before
fliming began.  :-)

August Paul Yang isn't as funny as he thinks he is.
wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
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From: atzachar@unix.amherst.edu (Aladdin)
Subject: Re: Be Our Guest parody
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:17:49 GMT

Will you all please RELAX?!!!  You are all thinking about yourselves!
The only person who has a true right to be offended by this is Howard
Ashman, and you know what?  I'm sure that he would have found it very
funny because he had what is known as a SENSE OF HUMOR!!

	--Ala"ddi"n
From: Ed.Sterrett@f157.n363.z1.fidonet.org (Ed Sterrett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney-MGM expansion
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 22:14:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:363/157 - Compu-Link II, Orlando FL

>I was told last night, that the long awaited 
>expansion of The Disney-MGM
>Studios Theme Park finally started about 2 weeks 
 
 EK> as someone who is leaving for WDW friday, does this have any bad
 EK> repercussions for touring the area?
 
  No, you won't even notice it..  really!

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From: brett@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Brett K. Carver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Finding past video releases
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:50:22 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA

For those of you trying to locate past Disney video releases, you might
consider doing some leg-work and checking out all the drug and discount
stores in your area.  You may be surprised at what you find.

I was just in a local Payless (a drug-store chain in the west) and counted
ten different video titles (BatB, both Rescuers, Dumbo, Alice, Mouse
Detective, Robinhood, and others).  True, there was only one copy of some
of them, but I was surprised at the number of different tapes.

If you're having a hard time finding something, check some of these
non-obvious places.  You might find what you want.

							Brett Carver
							brett@sr.hp.com
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From: erobinette@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Aladdin's length
Date: 13 Nov 92 09:45:53 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

In several articles about Aladdin, I've read that the movie is long for a
Disney animated film. Anyone know the exact length ot have an approximation?

Thanks,
Eric Robinette
erobinette@desire.wright.edu
From: teri@sdd.hp.com (Teri Tracey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Be Our Guest parody
Date: 9 Nov 1992 18:05:14 -0800
Organization: Hell's Little Breakfast Nook
NNTP-Posting-Host: hp-sdd.sdd.hp.com

In article <BxFHAD.1w1@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> ajmiller@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Arkayn) writes:
>This will be my last post on this subject.
>I'm just noticing a curious phenomenon that has crept up recently. People
>have become more offended by morals than by filth. I haven't seen as big
>an uproar over any putrescent slime that comes over the net as there is
>whenever someone tries to say that a little taste and decorum can go a long
>way. 

No, they were implying that their particular value system was some kind of
absolute value system.  If it had been said, "I don't think it was in good
taste" then one could say, well, s/he didn't find it funny.  But when you 
start to say, "God says anything having to do with sex is wrong and bad," 
as if God is some absolute that everyone agrees on, you are bringing in a 
entire belief system which a lot of people don't believe in and may not even 
know anything about (if you want to bring up the point that the distribution 
of this list is world-wide). 

There's a lot of different value systems and beliefs out there.  Self-
righteousness is bound to offend a lot of people!  And no, there's no
law against saying what you believe, post all you want; just don't be 
too surprised at the responses.

Teri Tracey              "When people are free to do as they like, they
 San Diego, CA            generally imitate each other."                   
  teri@sdd.hp.com  
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From: jgostin@mal-s1.gatech.edu (Jill Gostin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Beauty and the Beast inconsistencies...
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:58:12 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Res. Inst., Modeling & Analysis Lab

>In article <25866@optima.cs.arizona.edu> klind@cs.arizona.edu (Konrad "Beezlebub" Lind) writes:
>>
>>A prime example is in the beginning.  Belle's book, that the bookkeeper
>>gives her, has a picture in it, evident by the scene where she sits
>>at the fountain and the sheep bites a corner out of the page with the
>>picture on it.  Later, Gaston takes the book and asks "How can you
>>read this.  It has no pictures."

One thing I noticed:

The horse leaves Belle's father out on the edge of a cliff. But then
when Belle wants the horse to take her to where it left her father,
it takes her right to the castle.

So how did the horse know that Belle's father ended up at the castle?


jibg
-- 
Jill Butterfield Gostin                EMAIL: jgostin@mal-s1.gatech.edu
Georgia Institute of Technology, GTRI Modeling and Analysis Lab
"Happiness is excitement that has found a settling down place..."
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From: hellmerj@lars.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Jeffrey N Hellmers)
Subject: Re: Disney Overlap: A Legacy in Song box set
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:25:45 GMT

In article <BxK723.9p7@unix.amherst.edu> atzachar@unix.amherst.edu (Aladdin) writes:
>Andrew Krieg, Man or Android? (krieg@titan.med.ge.com) wrote:
>>     
>>    "Perfect Isn't Easy" - Oliver and Company, 1988
>> 	I was surprised this song was included, and not "Why Should I Worry".
>> 	They mention "Once Upon A Time in New York City" by Ashman and Menken,
>> 	as if it was going to be included.
>>     (Oliver and Company Soundtrack)
>>     
>> =     Andrew Krieg	| 						=
>
>Actually, the lyrics for "Once Upon A Time in New York City" were my Ashman,
>but Menken did not write the music.  I can't remember who did.
>
>	--Ala"ddi"n

Wasn't it Billy Joel?


-- 
         Jeffrey Hellmers            "Trouble is son, the farther you run, the
        hellmerj@stolaf.edu           more you feel undefined, for what you have         St. Olaf College             left undone, and more, what you've left
       Northfield, Minnesota          behind." Stephen Sondheim, INTO THE WOODS

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