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From: hstarke@europa.eng.gtefsd.com (Hal Starke)
Subject: Diamond Stealth & 24X Support
Reply-To: hstarke@europa.eng.gtefsd.com (Hal Starke)
Organization: GTE Federal Systems Division
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:17:20 GMT

I just got off the phone with tech support at Diamond Computer. They said
S3 and 24X support should become available about the middle of December.

Hal Starke, GTE Federal Systems
My views are my own!
Internet: hstarke@europa.eng.ftefsd.com
From: markm@iris.mincom.oz.au (Mark McCafferty)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: gnu and etc questions
Summary: gnu problems
Date: 11 Nov 92 00:01:16 GMT
Organization: Mincom, Brisbane, Australia
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

I have a number of questions about the gnu products I have recently
installed.

1. gnuman - despite my best efforts, I cannot get this to find my man
   pages. I have configured manpath.cfg to point to the necessary places
   and my path also contains the parent directory of the man directory.
   What else need I do?

2. gnused - I can only get this to work using a script file and the -f option.
   Running even the simplest on line command

      echo abc def | sed 's/abc/ABC/'

   causes sed to say "unknown command". The same script as a file works OK.

3. glib - how do I find out what libraries contain what? I was looking
   for chmod and glib'd and grep'ed all the supplied libraries, with no
   success. It must be there somewhere, surely, even if it is just a
   stub.

4. gcc - where are _system and _fork? They keep turning up as unresolved. When
   I try to recompile the supplied sources for gnu products (eg gnuman, gnused)    they do not compile and link cleanly. Why not?

5. link386 - how do I get usage on this? Can it use a response file? It does
   not appear to be in the OS/2 help stuff.

6. gnumake - if this produces a response file for lines longer than 100 chars
   and the program running cannot use a reposnse file, what do I do?

7. does either OS/2 or gcc define a standard #define to identify itself?

8. are there any porting guides for Un*x -> OS/2?

9. libman - are there any OS/2 specific changes made to these man pages? What
   routines/functions have no corresponding OS/2 equivalent (eg getuid)? How
   do I find out what they are? How are they handled?

10. where is putenv?

11. Where is __EMX__ defined? How do I tell that the code will dynamic link?

thanks a lot for any help
mark

PS This is in no way a complaint about the gnu ports. Without them life
   would be pretty straight!
From: ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 Trascan Imitation
Date: 11 Nov 92 08:31:43 GMT
 <1992Nov10.180107.1575@access.usask.ca>
Organization: Forschungszentrum Juelich

In article <1992Nov10.180107.1575@access.usask.ca>, lowey@jester.usask.ca (Kevin
Lowey) says:
>
[stuff about implementation of a trashcan deleted]

>This doesn't take into account three things:
 [...]
>2) The Macintosh trashcan empties the trash when the system is shut down.
>   We can emulate this by putting EMPTYTRASH.CMD in the Startup folder,
>   or using the ONEXIT command recently posted to the binaries group to
>   run EMPTYTRASH.CMD at shutdown.
>
This "feature" is removed in System 7 I believe. At least I would not like
to have it. A shutdown should leave the system in exactly the same state after
reboot.

>3) If the Macintosh starts getting short of disk space, it empties the trash.
>   We could emulate this by detaching a REXX command that wakes up every
>   few minutes, and runs EMPTYTRASH.CMD if the free disk space is below a
>   certain value.
>
We have a multitasking sysmtem. If we can't save a document we are working on
'cause the disk is full, we can easily empty the trash by hand. If I have that
safety trashcan I don't want it to leak.

There's another feature that's missing in the above list.
Imagine you have a 40MB system partition for OS/2. The desktop folder is on
that partition. You have about 5MB free on that partition. You are trashing
a 10MB folder on your data partition. OS/2 copies 5MB of data across your
drives and then says you're out of disk space.

What we need is a trash directory on every drive and a folder like object
that shows the contends of every trash directory in the system including
floppies and network drives. (I'm not sure about the trashcan on Mac network
drives but I bet it works like every other drive)

This is not impossible, but sure it's not only a simple REXX script.
(Though I hope someone proves the last part of that sentence false)

Michael Bode.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Virtual Desktop system for OS/2?
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:14:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.155715.24001@tamsun.tamu.edu> fab9452@scooter.tamu.edu (Allan Bailey) writes:
>  Is there a "virtual desktop" system for OS/2?
>  I'm looking for something like OLVWM for OpenWindows on Suns, and
>VirtSpace on NeXTs.
>  Any pointers, leads would be appreciated.

Trident has implemented virtual desktops with many of its drivers,
yes.  It works reasonably well, in fact, and they now provide a
utility which helps in the process.

Rumor has it that IBM will provide a similar option in the future for
VGA and XGA.  We'll see.

Note that the stock drivers support desktop scroll bars.  Move an
object off the desktop, and a scroll bar appears.  This gives you more
space than you might otherwise have.

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.graphics
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: 24-bit color board for OS/2 2.0 ?
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:20:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.013046.1821@wam.umd.edu> adhir@wam.umd.edu (Al Dhir) writes:
>Question, is anyone planning an EISA version of the XGA-2 card, and if so,
>when?
>In any case, here's an interesting question, how much difference could it
>possibly make between ISA and EISA?  From what I understand, XGA-2 is co-
>processed anyway, so the only time you'll see a big difference in speed is
>when you move a large bitmap from memory to the screen.  All drawing should
>probably be about the same speed, no?

Probably very little difference.  The AT bus XGA-2 adapter is bus
mastering and coprocessed already.  EISA could provide some gains, I
suppose, but the marginal benefit would be less with this type of
adapter.

In any event, I suspect you will see an EISA version of this adapter,
although I don't have a date to give you.  EISA is the third most
popular PC bus at present, behind AT bus and Microchannel, and may
fall to fourth with the advent of LocalBus, so that should provide
some indication of the relative time scale.

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: des@inmos.co.uk (David Shepherd)
Subject: Re: Unix Like File Name Completion...
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 13:01:20 GMT

Nasir Ahmed Noor (umnoor@ccu.umanitoba.ca) wrote:
: Does any one know if such a utility exists or if someone has plans to work
: on one [if its possible--at all] to allow file name completion as its done
: in Unix [ESC key]?

filename completion is not "done in UNIX" .. its done in the shell you
run (sorry if this sounds like nit-picking :-).

in UNIX using sh you don't have filename completion,  but using csh,
zsh etc do.

similarly in OS/2 the standard shell CMD.EXE doesn't have filename
completion, but another one 4OS2.EXE does.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: luca@dedalo.unipg.it (Luca Priorelli)
Subject: White screen on installation. Please help!
Organization: Universita' di Perugia
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 11:22:59 GMT

I am trying to install OS/2 2.0 on a PS/2 80. When the installation is
completed and the system is restarted everything is OK until the moment
the desktop is supposed to apper. Insted the PC shows a white screen
and there is periodic activity on the disk.

What happens? Can I fix the problem without having to reinstall OS/2
(I already reinstalled it a couple of times but I keep having the same
problem).

Thanks a lot.

Luca Priorelli
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.graphics
From: eletanjm@nuscc.nus.sg (Tan Jin Meng)
Subject: Re: 24-bit color board for OS/2 2.0 ?
Organization: National University of Singapore
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 05:29:48 GMT

duffy@theory.chem.ubc.ca (Pat Duffy) writes:
: 
: It is full extensible, vesa-compliant, busmastering video, and it's coming
: soon from Radius for the ISA bus.
: 
: I want one.

Aren't a lot of people using Adaptec now for their SCSI adapter? Won't
an Adaptec (bus master) refuse to cooperate with the XGA-2 bus master?

I thought on an ISA, you can't have more than one bus master.

jin meng
From: jsanchez@halcyon.com (Jim Sanchez)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Using names instead of E: for drives
Date: 6 Nov 92 04:07:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: nwnexus.1992Nov6.040717.17706
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service

I came to the OS/2 world from the Amiga and am really surprised that I
have to use primitive things like E: or F: to refer to volumes.  The
amiga had the ability to assign logical volumes to anything.  The great
virtue of this (and the problem with os/2) is that if you repartition a
disk then all the drive letters get screwed up and the config.sys refers
to places that might no longer exist.  Surely I have missed something
here - OS/2 is too advanced to limit you to these silly one letter drive
names...
Cheers

Jim Sanchez
Hughes LAN Systems jim@hls.com OR jsanchez@halcyon.com
Kirkland, WA 98033 (206)828-7417 (voice) (206)828-2454 (FAX)
-- 
Jim Sanchez
Hughes LAN Systems jim@hls.com OR jsanchez@halcyon.com
Kirkland, WA 98033 (206)828-7417 (voice) (206)828-2454 (FAX)
From: h198@hosp.med.umich.edu  (Gene Mangum)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: DOS *VERY* unstable after CSD
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992  12:26 EDT
Organization: Univ of Michigan Hospitals
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: condor.hosp.med.umich.edu
X-Newsreader: FTPNuz (DOS) v1.0

In Article <1992Nov6.155102.19944@coe.montana.edu> "dpoole@hydrogen.oscs.montana.edu (David Poole)" says:
> 
>   I've run into a another problem with the DOS windows.  I can crash OS/2 at
> will now by rapidly flipping back and forth between full screen and windowed
> mode.  OS/2 simply dies (no message) and I have to do a hard reboot.  Other
> times, I'll flip to a full screen, do some work, and won't be able to flip
> back to windowed mode.  
> 
>   Has anyone else encountered this problem?  If it keeps up, I'm going to
> junk the CSD and reinstall the original.  I haven't noticed any system
> improvements since installing it.
  I've had some problems since installing the CSD.   On my PS/2 at work,
  I've had DOS Windows lose keyboard control after switching between
  Windowed and Full-Screen (sometimes).   I had something *really* 
  strange yesterday.   I would click on an icon for OS/2 Window, and 
  it would start that session plus another PM app.   I could not type
  all characters in the OS/2 Window, and clicking on that Window would
  not give it focus.   I could focus the Window by maximizing it, but
  some keys did nothing.   Others would display the <Ctrl> of that key.
  A reboot cleared it up, and it hasn't happened again (yet).
  At home last night on my clone (I've run the CSD for 3 days there),
  I had 3 hard lockups.   Crtl-ESC had NO effect.   I had to hit the
  reset switch.   At the time, I was running 2-3 DOS Windows, one 
  using the modem, and an OS/2 session.   Nothing out of the ordinary...
 

Gene Mangum
Univ of Michigan Hospitals
From: cj00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Carl B Jabido)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Trident SVGA and Lockup.
Date: 6 Nov 92 07:54:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.Eeyf5Uu00iV0A3GPI5
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.os2.misc: 5-Nov-92 Trident SVGA and
Lockup. by >@oswald.cs.odu.edu 
> 1.  After installing the Trident 1024x768x256 drivers, (from Trident) my 
>     lockup command doesn't seem to work correctly.  It will tell me that I
>     have 3 incorrect password attempts even after the first try!  Is this 
>     a bug, or just my bad luck?

I would say bad luck, because it works fine for me.  I think someone
posted about how the Trident Hi-res drivers and the Service Pack caused
his system to lock sometimes, but I haven't heard of anyone with your
problem.
  
> 2.  Is there anyway to run Seamless windows in 1024x768 mode?  I would like
>     to use the higher resolution modes, but I would also like to get back 
>     my seamless windows.. HELP!  <If I can't, what is the highest mode I 
>     CAN run Seamless in?

As of now, no, there is no way to run Seamless.  The highest mode would
be 800x600x16.  Hopefully, Trident will get their butts in gear and work
on Seamless/32bit drivers for the new 32bit GRE!

Carl
From: sonny@charybdis.harris-atd.com (Bob Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Any Earthly Reason I SHould Use Os/2 NOW?
Date: 8 Nov 92 15:04:05 GMT
Reply-To: sonny@trantor.harris-atd.com (Bob Davis)
Organization: Advanced Technology Dept., Harris ESS, Melbourne, FL


	I have EXCESSIVE hours already invested in trying to give OS/2
the benefit of the doubt (I have installed GA and SP from scratch AT LEAST
10 times -- do you know how long it takes to feed 18+ GA disks in PLUS
14+ SP or CSD disks in?????? -- and I AM TIRED!)

	I love the POTENTIAL of OS/2 but, realistically, one gives up
after Lucy pulls the football away EVERY time....

	With my 486SX 25 MHZ system, EGA monitor, 8 MEG SIMM system,
I  cannot get WINOS2 to work at all after installation of the "CORRECTIVE"
SERVICE DISKS (even though it worked after the GA), I cannot EVER get DOS
from A: DIsk to work, and I cannot get the Notebooks to keep from clipping
the tops of many pages away.

	And MY complaints are HARDLY the ONLY ones. This newsgroup is
replete with accounts of problems encountered by many people.

	One wonders, as a customer, after so many dissappointments, how
IBM could have loosed such a problem-plagued package as the CSD on its
users.

	I AM TIRED OF TRYING TO MAKE IT WORK!

	Thank you.


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From: skelly@bucknell.edu (sean kelly `94)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Timer Execute of Programs
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:11:23 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
NNTP-Posting-Host: albiero.cs.bucknell.edu

Here's something they should include in program settings-- some connection to an
alarm clock (ie. to execute the program at some time, or at multiple times). 
I've tried executing programs through the alarm utility that comes with OS/2, but
it only seems to work with .CMD files, and other 'automatic' programs.  What I
would like to do is start up a terminal emulator that will execute a script (say,
to get mail from the net).  I've tried this under the alarm clock and after
executing the program crashes and notifies me that it has exceeded heap size. 
I've tried alarmpro2.5, but it insists (in the scheduler) that it's 1993, the
clock setting is correct tho. so it will execute the programs--starting next
year!  Is there any way to have a program (in it's own session) start up at a
specified time.  I think the reason the alarm clock crashed is that it doesn't
open a new session for the routine.  I'm using Qmodem (DOS), would an TE/2 or a
similar program solve myu problems (being a native OS/2 app)?  Any help would be
greatly appreciated.
-Sean
From: hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS2+VIO windows=110baud
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:17:09 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

shurr@cbnews.cb.att.com (larry.a.shurr) writes:
>IBM didn't write these drivers to provide speed, they wrote them to
>work.  They've also written them for generality (to various ET4000-
>based SVGA implementations).  I heard in this forum that these drivers
>are to be provided to 3rd party vendors as models of how to write
>video drivers for OS/2.

>Diamond's  (Binar-written, WinSpeed-based, Diamond-modified) Turbo
>Windows Drivers for the SpeedStar provide an astonishing performance
>improvement over the standard Tseng drivers for Windows.  If Diamond
>applies the same lessons to the box-stock ET4000 drivers for OS/2,
>SpeedStar users, at least, can look forward to better performance...
>eventually.

>When I can afford to throw horsepower at it, I will.  Still, I want
>and expect fast drivers to use with my increased horsepower, as well.
>Since Binar and Diamond have shown us something of what is possible
>with SVGA in general and SpeedStar in particular, I have some idea
>what is possible and how much we can expect.  Time will tell, though,
>and we're going to have to let it do exactly that.

I notice that Diamond seems to be feeling the waters about OS/2 - they
have a poll/questionnaire on their BBS about OS/2. It might help to
speed up Speedstar drivers if people convince them the demand is there.
The numbers are 1-408-730-1100 and 1-408-524-9335. Make some noise.
 
Tom
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: byu@sys.toronto.edu (Benjamin Yu)
Subject: Swapping HD with OS/2 installed
Organization: University of Toronto
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:49:15 GMT

I installed OS/2 2.0 on my removable HD of my Samsung notebook.  Yesterday
the computer died because I was probably running the battery too low and
killed the machine.  I went to the store and removed the HD and installed
it in a working notebook but could not get OS/2 to come up.  The HD was
set up with Multiple Boot Manager with DOS 5 in one partition and OS/2 
in another.  During boot up, the Boot Manager says OS/2 partition can't be
located and DOS 5 won't boot.  Any comments in swapping HD from one 
machine to another.  I notice in an earlier post that someone changed the
mother board but kept the HD couldn't get OS/2 to boot properly.  What kind
of info does OS/2 depends on the motherboard before it boots??

Benjamin Yu
From: aa330@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Neil Gould)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Attaching misc. Scanners...
Date: 5 Nov 1992 19:41:55 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa330@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Neil Gould)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu



Hi all,

I may have need to attach a Panasonic flatbed scanner to an OS/2 /TCPIP
system. Of course, I don't expect or need the scanner to be a network
resource! 8-)

My question is whether I should expect any difficulties in bringing up
the scanner to operate under WIN-OS/2 or in a DOS session?

Any foresights would be appreciated!

-- 
		neil gould  +  aa330@cleveland.freenet.edu
		SysOp: Video Arts Department; Co-SIGop - Audio Arts SIG
		Opinions available at discount rates!
From: ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Install ET3000 video?
Date: 11 Nov 92 08:24:17 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Forschungszentrum Juelich

In article <burleigh.721420003@ogre>, burleigh@ogre.cica.indiana.edu (Frank
Burleigh) says:
>
>Perhaps ET3000 chipsets are unsupported?  Perhaps I did somethign
>wrong?  Perhaps this card is in some other way incabable?
>
I think unsupported. By no way it is incapable. It works with Windows,
Autocad and what else in 800x600.

>Any ideas?

If I were you, I would get another card  --- if I only knew which one.

Michael Bode.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: shurr@cbnews.cb.att.com (larry.a.shurr)
Subject: Re: OS2+VIO windows=110baud
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus, OH
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:47:41 GMT

In article <16831@umd5.umd.edu> adhir@cygnus.umd.edu (Alok Dhir) writes:
>In article <1d6kb1INNq5d@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> nan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Nan Zou) writes:
>>parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry) writes:
>>>David Hinds (dhinds@leland.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
>>>> parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry) writes:
>>[ slow scrolling ]
>>>>[Fix should be bitblt scrolled text area then "buffered paint" for update]
>>>[Scrolling in less we see one repaint per line scrolled]

This is true. worse, the repaint appears to be character-by-character from
the bottom of the window, upward -- unsightly and slow.

>>[Unfavorable comparison to Open Look on a SPARC]

>What kind of a computer are you using?  A 386/25 or something?  What in the
>WORLD makes you think your 386 should be faster than a Sparc??  Geez.  I'm
>sick of all you people with 386/16s running them at 1024x768, and then crying
>about the slow speed of DOS Windows.  Have you ever tried the DOS Windows in
>Win3.1?  They are exactly as slow (or as fast, in my case).  If you want
>your scrolling to be fast, get a new graphics card or a new computer, or
>reduce your resolution!  

What's the matter, Al?  Acting like a horses butt isn't your style... is it?

>Quit crying.  It's YOUR hardware, NOT OS/2!!

While the lower-end of the 386 family cannot be realistically compared
with a SPARC, with or without GFX, the implementation could be faster.
In all probability, they will be, too.  We'll just have to wait.  

IBM didn't write these drivers to provide speed, they wrote them to
work.  They've also written them for generality (to various ET4000-
based SVGA implementations).  I heard in this forum that these drivers
are to be provided to 3rd party vendors as models of how to write
video drivers for OS/2.

Diamond's  (Binar-written, WinSpeed-based, Diamond-modified) Turbo
Windows Drivers for the SpeedStar provide an astonishing performance
improvement over the standard Tseng drivers for Windows.  If Diamond
applies the same lessons to the box-stock ET4000 drivers for OS/2,
SpeedStar users, at least, can look forward to better performance...
eventually.

>On my 486, with ET4000, the DOS window scrolling is pretty quick.

When I can afford to throw horsepower at it, I will.  Still, I want
and expect fast drivers to use with my increased horsepower, as well.
Since Binar and Diamond have shown us something of what is possible
with SVGA in general and SpeedStar in particular, I have some idea
what is possible and how much we can expect.  Time will tell, though,
and we're going to have to let it do exactly that.

Larry

Larry
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