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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 93 17:35:59 TUR
From:         "James A. Schaefer" <FACSCHAEFER@RIC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Central Florida tourist query
Comments: To: TRAVEL-L%TREARN.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

Head to Cape Canaveral and the space center, or to Everglades Park for an
airboat ride.  If you venture from Ft. Pierce westward to the Gulf and Venice,
you and your boys can look for fossilized sharks teeth!  Great fun, and not
at all difficult.  Try the Venice Airport Beach (may have another name but
asking for this would get you the correct directions) or south a bit
to Manasota beach (more teeth, some conch shells but requres diving).
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|  James A. Schaefer, Assoc. Prof.  Internet:  FacSchaefer @ ric.edu   |
|  Math & Computer Science Dept     BitNet:    JAS @ RICVM             |
|  Rhode Island College             Phone:     (401) 456-9758          |
|  Providence, RI 02908-1991                            -8038          |
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 93 11:29:36 EST
From:         HGOLDSTE@UDCVAX.BITNET
Subject:      RE: no more !!!
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

i'm afraid that messages like this won't help .. obviously
the NSYU don't read the LIST ... otherwise they'd have gotten
the idea ... so all you do when you send stuff like this to
the list is add to the overall overload! ... the only hope is
to send these feelings of frustration directly to the folks
who send them.
From: STUHAA6@SAUPM00.BITNET (Haytham AboAysha (Hayt))
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l
Subject: Visite Mexico
Date: 5 Jan 93 00:18:05 GMT
Organization: King Fahd University of Petroleum and Minerals, S.A.
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Dear All,

   I'm planning to visit Mexico between 22 and 30 of Jan 93 and
would like more information about some places to visit.
I have heard of some places like Cancun!! Is it a good place to
visit? and what the weather will look like in that time?
What money do I have to concern?
Please reply soon (I'm running out og time!!)
Please reply to <STUHAA6@SAUPM00.BITNET>
Thanks


Hayt
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 93 13:14:08 EST
From:         Fred Combs <combsf@GVSU.EDU>
Subject:      Information Branson, MO area.
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l


          I am interested in taking a trip to Missouri, most likely
          the Table Rock area.  I would like to know if anyone has any
          information on the area that they can share.  A possibility
          is renting a houseboat on the lake and just cruising around.
          Has anyone ever rented a houseboat before?  How are they?
          Was it fun?  I know of a couple attractions in the area
          Silver Dollar City and Branson.  Any suggestions on any of
          the above topics?  All suggestions are appreciated.

          Thanks.
          Fred W. Combs
          Computing Network Coordinator
          Grand Valley State University
          Allendale, MI 49401
          combsf@gvsu.edu
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 93 16:06:20 EST
From:         ADWC000 <ADWC@NMUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      SIGNING OFF
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

Well, it could have been fun.  I did get some valuable information from
the net.  Thanks.  However, I can't waste my day weeding through volumes
of propaganda about the joys of Taiwan.  If the intent is to convince a
traveller to visit that soon-to-be non-country, than it has, at least
from this world roamer's viewpoint, completely backfired.  I can't
imagine visiting there now.  I'll check back with the net in a couple of
months to see if the air has cleared.

Carl
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 93 07:36:59 EST
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From:         Doreen Rappaport <IRMSS931@SIVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Requesting Info re: Santa Fe in January
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

From:  Doreen Rappaport
You may want to search the travel logs regarding Santa Fe.  There was a
discussion this past Fall.  I wrote up a brief blurb too sometime in late
Oct-Nov.  Let me know if you can't find it and I will try to track down
what I wrote.  I think I still have a copy somewhere.

  XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
       Doreen Rappaport
       Smithsonian Institution      Phone: (202)786-2142
       OIRM - IRD                   Bitnet:  IRMSS931@SIVM
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 93 18:08:14 TUR
From:         "Mary Fry, Acquisitions Librarian" <MFRY@BROOK.BITNET>
Subject:      not Colorado
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

We (my boyfriend and I) are trying to sell two RT tickets through the
newspaper.  We have got quite a few calls but no one has put their
money down yet.  One concern the callers have is flying under someone
elses name and the possibility of getting caught.  So I thought I'd pose
these questions to the savvy travelers on the list.  Have you ever flown
under someone elses name and got caught?  If so, what happened?  Also, have
you ever tried to sell tickets through the newspaper and what was the
response?  We figure with the segment promotion the airlines are having
now if you sold two cross country trips through the paper you could get one
free trip from the segments and almost one free trip by the miles
(the flights could not be nonstop).


Mary Fry
The Brookings Institution Library

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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 93 22:40:51 EST
From:         HGOLDSTE@UDCVAX.BITNET
Subject:      GAYS
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

What is the story ... why can't this stop ... this is
not a human rights list ... it is not a politically
correct or incorrect list ... it is a TRAVEL LIST and
i cannot understand why one imbeciles stupid remarks
have caused this unstoppable outflow of opinion that
i have not subscribed to this list to hear ... are we
all so sensitive that we cannot let anything go unanswered.

come on, forget this issue ... we have enough trouble with the
little Taiwanesses running amuck ... and i do understand that
there is a Gay Rights group very active in Taipei.
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 93 17:39:26 TUR
From:         "James A. Schaefer" <FACSCHAEFER@RIC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: area specialist listing
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Hilde,
Maybe N.J. needs a spokesperson like you to brighten its reputation.  I still
look forward to the time when I can visit Cape May.  I've heard that western
NJ along the Pennsylvania border is beautiful, but I never got off the "pike"
to look.  A few suggestions and comments about NJ would be welcome!
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|  James A. Schaefer, Assoc. Prof.  Internet:  FacSchaefer @ ric.edu   |
|  Math & Computer Science Dept     BitNet:    JAS @ RICVM             |
|  Rhode Island College             Phone:     (401) 456-9758          |
|  Providence, RI 02908-1991                            -8038          |
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 93 14:57:00 CST
From:         Louis Crispino <DEVBLGC@TCSTSO.BITNET>
Subject:      Where is Here?
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

Hi,

Just a thought.. some folks post messages like...

"Are the beaches in Australia as nice as here..."

or

"are hotels more expensive in London than here..."

but they don't say where  "here" is, and it's not always easy to
determine from your BITNET address. How about including a least a first
name and the location your writing from on all corespondence. I think it
would be a big help.

Louis, here in New Orleans.
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 93 09:12:11 CST
From:         u7841922@BM.NSYSU.EDU.TW
Subject:      Re:Where to travel for winter vacation request
Comments: To: TRAVEL-L%TREARN.BITNET@vm1.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l


      Hi,
      If you would like to travel abroad for winter vacation,
      Holland is not a bad choice. I can put forward a brief
      info about Holland.
      More then half of Holland lies bellow sea level, so they
      had to build a system of dikes and pumping installations
      to keep the land from being flooded.
         If you like to appreciate beauty and nature, then you
      will be more pleased with Holland. There are many various
      flowers in her ,tulips, azaleas and orchids etc. The tulips
      are particularly magnificent.
         About 70% of the world's flower exports are from Holland.
      May you have a delighted traveling.


                                               Liehwa Lee
                                            u7841922@bm.nsysu.edu.tw
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 93 17:04:13 EST
From:         Lucy Rowland <LROWLAND@UGA.BITNET>
Subject:      One More Time
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

Puh-leez! Several subscribers have appealed to those who insist on
getting into heated arguments that are totally inappropriate to this
UNMODERATED list. Since it is UNMODERATED, we are all responsible for
maintaining its integrity.

This is a weekend. I don't want to come back to work on Monday to
find another 40 messages about Colorado and its constitution. I
don't think there are many others who do, either. Cease and desist!
Now! At least the discussions about soap a few months back had
some relation to travel.

Thank you very much to those who replied to my query about Cincinnati.
It has all been very helpful, and I'm eager for even more.

Lucy M. Rowland, MS, MLS
Head, Science Collections and Branch Services
University of Georgia Libraries
Athens, GA 30602-7412
706-542-6643
FAX: 706-542-6523
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 93 09:15:00 EST
From:         "Christopher.Reznich" <21602CR@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      re:Chicago
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

Two of my favorites are to take in shows at "Second City" and at the
Jazz Showcase at the Blackstone Hotel, near Shedd's Aquarium. The
Jazz Showcase charges $10 cover, has reasonable drink prices, and is
a "smokeless" club. It concentrates mainly on "classic" jazz - recent
artists have included Clark Terry, Red Holloway, Mose Allison, Joe Pass,
etc.

The Second City is the improvisational review theater. I almost got a
hernia laughing at the shows I've seen there.

Chris Reznich
Office of Medical Education
  Research and Development
College of Human Medicine
Michigan State University
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:33:24 BRA
Reply-To:     Amaury da Gama Bentes <PUR01001@UFRJ.BITNET>
From:         Amaury da Gama Bentes <PUR01001@UFRJ.BITNET>
Subject:      Canon LBP 8 Mark III resolution upgrade

 A happy new year to all pagemakr subscribers!

   I'm in charge of a small Art Studio/Bureau which has been using a
Canon LBP 8 Mark III 300 dpi laser printer since 1990. It was a very
good printer then because it was suited for to needs. Unfortunately
market competition and the outcoming of newer technologies have set
it to obsolecence (concerning to professional uses, of course it is
still very adequate to office and home use).

  We spent a lot of money and would like to get the best of it
because it is still in a very good shape. The problem is that WE DO
NEED a 600 dpi resolution or we will get choked by a wild competition
from many home DTPers which just buy a PC (or Mac) and can offer lower
composition prices because they don't pay any taxes and have no employees
as we do.

  A possible solution would be to buy a HP4 but to me it looks like non-
sense, because we would get a very low price if we tried to sell our
Canon 300 dpi printer.

 We then agreed that the best solution would be to buy a 600 dpi resoluti
on card (or "kit") for our printer. And that's why I'm writin these lines
I've been told about a company named DPTek making a 660 dpi upgrade board
but I don't know whether it can be used to enhance a Canon resolution.

 I'd be very happy to know about other brand names making such cards. If
any of you  know about these boards please send me a private E_mail. I'
m mostly interested in their technical capacities and of course, an
affordable price. Did anybody has already used one of these boards? Are
there any drawbacks?

 This is very important to our survival as Desktop publishers in a countr
y where professional use of computers (due to harsh reserve market laws)
have always been a painfull process.


 Thank you in advance

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     AMAURY DA GAMA BENTES           PUR01001@UFRJ
           U.F.R.J.
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:45:12 EST
Reply-To:     LPEN000 <LPEN@NLU.BITNET>
From:         LPEN000 <LPEN@NLU.BITNET>
Subject:      S.O.S. TEXT PROBLEM!

HELP!

I'm still new at DTP.  I need to bring in larger text and pull it over
the text on the page.  I want to pull the other text away from the
larger text, so I have an eyecatcher text centered on my page.  Can
someone answer immediately?  Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.........

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Linda Pennington                    Evanston       Tampa
Editor/Writer                       Chicago        McLean, VA
Academic Affairs                    Lombard        Milwaukee
National-Louis University           Elgin, IL      Beloit, WI
Lombard, Illinois                   St. Louis      Heidelberg, Germany
                                    Atlanta        Nowy Sacz, Poland
LPEN@NLU.BITNET                     ************************************
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Organization: IUPUI Student Activities Office (317) 274-3931
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:02:17 EST
Reply-To:     "NATHAN BRINDLE" <NBRINDLE@INDYCMS.BITNET>
From:         "NATHAN BRINDLE" <NBRINDLE@INDYCMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Pagemaker 5.0

Well, it seems to be official....Aldus Magazine just announced PM 5.0
for MAC and for Windows...many new features including a Control Palette
(new for Windows; better for Mac), text/graphics rotation, color libraries,
better, faster, selectable printing, multiple open publications (!),
library palette (graphical database), custom line weights, and Aldus
Additions.  I've only skimmed the articles, so don't ask for details
yet.  One thing I specifically did NOT see was the Booklet option we
Windows folk have been waiting for and I hope I just missed it in the
reading.

Upgrades from version 4.0 are $150; from Mac 4.2, $75.  Or buy a copy
of an earlier version and upgrade for free.  No real info on whether
you ought to upgrade to a 486DX or how much <more> space it will take
on your hard drive...Availability date is "first quarter 1993."

-----------------------------------------------------BITNET:  NBRINDLE@INDYCMS
Nathan C. Brindle, Student Activities Office
Staff Advisor, ALPHA PHI OMEGA, TAU OMICRON CHAPTER
Indiana University-Purdue University at Indianapolis
Internet:    NBRINDLE@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU
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From: arc2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (AMY CHARLES)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pagemakr
Subject: Help!  I can't get big type for heads
Date: 5 Jan 93 04:59:19 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

I'm using PM for IBM, and I can't get big letters to come out of the big
cursor when I size type to, say, 36 picas.  Nor can I enlarge the type later.
Here are the steps I've taken:  create text box, set type size and style, and
go.  Yes, there's enough room for large type, but no dice.  I've also tried
importing big type from Windows Draw as a TIFF, but it still transfers small
and unstretchable.  What's the problem?  (Screen fonts are fine, incidentally,
in Windows Draw; no problem getting great big type there.)  Any clues?
 
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:23:00 EDT
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From:         LEARYJ@SNYCORVA.BITNET

Date sent:  11-JAN-1993 15:22:58
Subscribe Alex Leary
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 13:59:34 +0100
Reply-To:     JOHN RICHMOND <RICHMONDJ@ADMINA.RFERL.ORG>
From:         JOHN RICHMOND <RICHMONDJ@ADMINA.RFERL.ORG>
Subject:      Diseased attributes in Word files imported into PageMaker

I am new to this list and have not read through all the archives,
so my apologies if  this problem is old hat.
I have always had problems with Word files placed in PageMaker,
all versions since 3.0 of both applications for the Macintosh. The
attributes are not correctly translated: some drop off the first
letter of a word, some entirely disappear.
This canobviously corrected in proof, but it is *very* vexing. It
can be disastrous when you lose random footnotes.
I have the most recent filters, to the best of my knowledge.

John Richmond
RFE/RL, Inc. Publications
richmondj@rferl.org tel +49 89 2102.2637
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:54:00 EST
Reply-To:     "Jeffrey L. Needleman" <needje@MSEN.COM>
From:         "Jeffrey L. Needleman" <needje@MSEN.COM>
Subject:      PageMaker 5.0 Mac demo available!

Tonight's info-mac reports that a demo for PageMaker 5.0 has been posted at
sumex-aim.stanford.edu, available for anonymous ftp as:

/info-mac/demo/pagemaker-50.hqx

To run this demonstration, you'll need a color Macintosh, System 6.0.7
or later (runs under System 7), a hard drive, a high-density floppy disk
drive, and at least 4MB of RAM (5MB under System 7). The demo is 1140k.

Enjoy.
Jeff Needleman  <needje@msen.com>
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:39:13 -0500
Reply-To:     Richard elGurutm Howland-Bolton <reh1@CORNELL.EDU>
From:         Richard elGurutm Howland-Bolton <reh1@CORNELL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: PostScript for Times? (A)

>Umm...
>
>Ignorance alert...
>
>Is the Adobe Type 1 font the same as the Postscript??
>
>If yes, then there are many versions of Times available
>via ftp.
>
>Bruce.

Not necessarily, (but nowadays probably). Postscript fonts come in two
flavours, type one and type three. Type one has hinting and encryption and
(in the old days, ante bellum typographicae) more profit for Adobe. Type
three had none of these three (especially the last). But for years now
Fontographer etc have been able to produce type one. So if your PS Font is
old, it may be type three, otherwise the answer should be yes.
RH-B
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:55:24 +1000
Reply-To:     Justin Ridge <justin@TASMAN.CC.UTAS.EDU.AU>
From:         Justin Ridge <justin@TASMAN.CC.UTAS.EDU.AU>
Subject:      PostScript for Times?

Hi again peoples... a second question.
This is not strictly PageMaker, but here goes...
Does anyone know where I can get hold of a PostScript version of the font
'Times' (or Times Roman if you move in PC circles)?
I need to edit some of the characters in the font.  I have Fontographer for
the Mac which permits one to edit PostScript fonts, so therefore I must
obtain a PostScript version to edit.  But PostScript versions are not
stored on the Macs because the font is resident in all LaserWriters.
I DO have a TrueType version, but unless I can convert that into PostScript
in the very near future, it will be useless to me.
At the moment, the only option I have is to convert the Times TType onto
the PC, take EACH character, convert it to an outline in CorelDRAW, and add
them to a new PS font file.... yuck.  That could take days.

If anyone knows where there's a copy of Times PostScript, please drop me a
line.  Similarly, if you know of a [shareware] utility to convert TT to PS,
please tell me.  As a last resort, if anyone has some big flash method not
available to myself, perhaps you could take pity and mail the converted
font???

Thanks muchly in advance,
Regards,
JR

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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:12:15 EST
Reply-To:     LPEN000 <LPEN@NLU.BITNET>
From:         LPEN000 <LPEN@NLU.BITNET>
Subject:      -printer not printing months on calendar

Anyone-----

I've spent alot of time make a calendar template and it was printing
fine as I worked on it, but now it won't print the names of the months.
Everything else is coming out fine.  I've talked to Aldus and worked
on changing the DPI and other stuff.  They couldn't help me.........

The calendar is a little over an inch wide and fits down the side of
an 8 1/2 by 11 sheet of paper.  I have a key at the bottom, because I'm
going to highlight certain dates.

I'll be here for a little while tonight...... Then, back on Sat.

Can anyone help me?   :)

Thanks,

Linda

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                    ***********NLU***********
Linda Pennington                    Evanston       Tampa
Editor/Writer                       Chicago        McLean, VA
Academic Affairs                    Lombard        Milwaukee
National-Louis University           Elgin, IL      Beloit, WI
Lombard, Illinois                   St. Louis      Heidelberg, Germany
                                    Atlanta        Nowy Sacz, Poland
LPEN@NLU.BITNET                     ************************************
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