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From: hank@westford.ccur.com (Hank Cohen)
Subject: Re: Recommend History Books/Authors?
Organization: Concurrent Nippon Corp.  Tokyo , Japan
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 09:10:56 GMT

In article <jwb.726385740@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au> jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen) writes:

>The colonial status thing was a very real threat to Japan. The 
>post-Perry treaties forced non-application of Japanese law to visiting
>Brits, Americans, etc. which was both an insult and a common precursor
>to "send in the marines to protect our nationals" moves.

As an interesting footnote to this there is in Kobe a rather prominent
Shrine dedicated to a samauri who was obliged to commit Seppuku after
having killed or injured some rude british sailors.  I suppose the
brits picked a fight with the wrong fella.  In any case the samauri
chap had to slit his belly to prevent an international incident.  And
now there's a Shrine in his honor.  This is especially significant
when you realize that very few shrines in Japan are actually dedicated
to real people.  It's been ages since I was there and if I knew then
what I know now about Japanese history I would have checked to see
when the shrine was founded.  For all I know it might have been
something like Showa 14. i.e. 1939.

-- 
Hank Cohen
Concurrent Nippon Corp.  	Shuwa yanagibashi Bldg. 5F
Yanagibashi 2-19-6 Taito-ku 	Tokyo 111, Japan
Denwa: 03-3864-5714 	Fax: 03-3864-0898
From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: It's Hangin' Time!
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:07:49 GMT

In article <1993Jan09.200015.12514@gibdo.engr.washington.edu> tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Tad Perry) writes:
>In article <1ijkdiINN34h@shelley.u.washington.edu> yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii) writes:
>>ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano) writes:
>>>        Now that it over and the life of Westley Allen Dodd is over I
>>>would like to give an opinion as seen by one who is Japanese. 
>>
>>Aside from you being Japanese, I'm not sure what Dodd hanging 
>>has to do with s.c.j.  To inject some relevance (IMO), I'll 
>>add that there is capital punishment in Japan and that there
>>is only one method of execution: death by hanging (koushikei).
>>
>>BTW, whatever happened to the infamous child killer Miya..(something)?
>>Was he hanged?  How frequent is execution in Japan?

>According to the book the Enigma of Japanese Power it is much more
>common than anyone knows because it is *never* reported in the
>Japanese press. I'd have to look it up but I remember it as being
>*estimated* (I think by Amnesty International or some such) as
>something on the order of 1 to 3 executions (by hanging, the only
>method) per year.

According to a recent "Today's Japan" special, no one has been executed in 
Japan for about 3 years. Part of the reason is the current re-evaluation of
those cases where the only evidence against the defendant was his confession.

Mike
-- 
Disclaimer - These opinions are not so much opinions, as pearls of wisdom. Any-
one disagreeing is obviously either a) a snivelling, whining, mentally-
deficient, weak-willed, inconsequential, namby-pamby tool of some vague but
conveniently defined conspiracy, or b) my wife.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: cmort@NCoast.ORG (Christopher Morton)
Subject: Re: First Love
Reply-To: cmort@ncoast.org (Christopher Morton)
Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 20:24:56 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.japan

As quoted from <C0Mzq5.G60@unix.amherst.edu> by jmfuchs@unix.amherst.edu (jesse fuchs):

> Christopher Morton (cmort@NCoast.ORG) wrote:
> > As quoted from <C0KuLw.I66@unix.amherst.edu> by jmfuchs@unix.amherst.edu (jesse fuchs):
> > 
> > > 	Question: If they made a movie about Riki, who would play him? My
> > > choices are either the guy who played the bandit in "Rashomon," or 
> > > Tor Johnson. Any other suggestions?
> > 
> > I vote for the guy who played the leader of the cannibals in "The Hills Have
> > Eyes".  I can imagine the same look of thoughtful introspection on Rikiko's
> > "face"....
> 	Wait! I've got a new one! Robert DeNiro in "Taxi Driver"!
> 
> 	"You lookin' at _me_?"

I think rather that would be, "Atashi o mite imasuka?".

Let's keep the proper context.... :)

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From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Kashmir Situation
Date: 9 Jan 93 23:53:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.0fHz8hO00UhWI0xHM2
Distribution: world
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Lord have mercy!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
Subject: Re: bad idea to post pictures of Miyazawa Rie
Organization: Integrated International Systems Corp. One Longfellow Place, Suite 3309, Boston, Ma.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:31:13 GMT

jcliu@four-lab4.Berkeley.EDU (James C. Liu) writes:

>In article <1993Jan12.173805.2724@mtu.edu> barrera@mtu.edu (Barrera) writes:

>  >Please Jim, tell us what knowledge and qualifications you have concerning
>  >non-western whatever-religion-or-lack-thereof points of view, particularly
>  >Japanese ? Would this kind of thing happen on fj.* newsgroups ? Maybe they
>  >would, but I would be interested in hearing under which context it would
>  >happen.

>This sounds like flame bait, Barrera-san...if Jim Turley-san was to
>actually give you ALL the numbers of requests he got to his posting,
>you'd realize you were in the minority opinion.  IMHO, the GIFs were
>okay, but not worth the disk space.

I do not know Jim well, but I do know that he has fairly extensive
knowledge of Asia. He is posting the gifs/jpegs in the appropriate
alt groups, so how about we just back off and let him be. Even though
I also think that the original post was a _little_ misplaced, it certainly
did not deserve the flames that he has received. Can we just let the
subject die?

Charlie
-- 
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From: justin@nx30.mik.uky.edu (justin sullivan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: NASA and the Japanese Space Program
Date: 12 Jan 93 05:35:17 GMT
    <1inqlf$nij@agate.berkeley.edu> <ofHxp8C00iUy03aEVw@andrew.cmu.edu>
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Path: nx30.mik.uky.edu!justin

In <ofHxp8C00iUy03aEVw@andrew.cmu.edu> ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano) writes:

[article about Nihon's space program deleted..]

Asano-san, you surprise me! Japan DOES have an independent space program.
NASDA: NAtional Space Development Agency. When I was at Space Academy
at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama, we were
honored by a visit from NASDA's administrator (his name escapes me, but it was
a few years ago, so he's probably no longer the administrator anyway).

He stressed that Japan wanted to develop its own technology for its space
ventures and avoid duplicating existing technologies. At the time, there
were already a number of refinements.. He was especially proud of the
laser gyroscope he demonstrated. Also, at the time, NASDA had three
astronauts-in-training: one was a woman and all three were scientists,
as opposed to American astronauts which are 99% male and probably half
(at least) are military personnel. 

NASDA has three space centers. They're small and mainly used for prototyping
new launch vehicles (which are small but innovative in many respects, including
cost). I believe he mentioned that the government extends minimal support,
and corporations fork over the rest.

That professor's argument is very ill-founded, though. A full two-thirds
of commercial American launches are performed by the European Space
Agency. All told, ESA is probably twice as busy as NASA.
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 10:14:18 -0500 
From: Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: It's Hangin' Time!
	<1993Jan11.105253.20369@Csli.Stanford.EDU>

Mr. Hiraga writes:  (in response to a blatant lie)
.

The Lie                     

>>Just one year, 1992.  In fact, discounting last year (and, I suppose
>>this year?)  there has been at least one execution in Japan every year
>>for something like 30 years.


The Response

>I don't think that's correct.
>Cite the sources please.

The Analysis
 
I have always been convinced even from my first post on this new
group(which was in fact the basis of my first post) that the majority of
this group was no real concern for Nippon or Asia. It seems that I am
one of the few if not the only Japanese citizen in this group, I can see
why. I'm sure that any group that ya all may go to the Japanese will 
not conversate with you as long as I have. One is because of the
intellectaul level of this group and Two close-mindedness and 
dillusions. For example, the current "game" being played over which
"characters"
I am. This is very funny! I enjoy the little games of Americans. But,
the reality is is that I am somewhere where most of this same people
wish they were. 
So! In their self-humility and more importantly to get out and work for
it like I did they want to sit on their asses and make me out to be a
monster. This is funny! Fallas get a life!!!! This same thing happened
in this case. The individual perceived that Asia in this case Nippon had
an average so he lied. Imagined in such a way that the naive or the lazy
or most likely those who find joy in believing a lie would be tricked.
This type of thing is normal in this group and in Nippon and Asia.
Humans must really battle this type of evil. And, it is evil.

Christ Jesus said it best when he said satan is the father of lies. When
he lies
he speaks his native tongue. I gave little attention to these people.
They have 
nothing. And, are far less intelligent then they realize. So, I
guessthat that makes them fools. I prefer, "Self-appointed
intellectuals" though! Fools have a better advantage. They know that
they're fools.



Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,alt.sex,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.african.american,sci.electronics,misc.consumers,misc.education,misc.entrepreneurs
From: tleylan@pegasus.com (Tom Leylan)
Subject: Re: DOES AMERICA SAY YES TO JAPAN? - Off track!!
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 21:23:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.172513.18741@clsi.COM> kevin@clsi.com writes:

>tleylan@pegasus.com (Tom Leylan) writes:
>> rainbow@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Jennifer Lynn Hammond) writes:

>> >If tomorrow all the
>> >social security was no longer taken out of your pockets prices
>> >would soar to absorb your new-found wealth at exactly the same
>> >rate of increased prices.

>> I guess somebody has to ask.  Is this the "Hammond Effect" we've heard
>> so much about but nobody has heretofore identified ?

>> "Prices rise to the level of the compensation that people receive"

>It is particularly true in Real-estate. In the '80s in the UK when interest
>and tax rates were cut house prices rose dramatically i.e. people will spend
>a lot more on a piece of property than it is actually worth - particularly if
>it is sold to the highest bidder.

Kev:  It isn't "true" at any time anywhere.  People never spend more money
for anything "than it is actually worth".  $5 for a gallon milk is not more
than it is worth if you have no transportation and the store that sells
milk for $2.50 a gallon is 10 miles away.  One of stores is closer so the
value of that milk when up to that buyer.

The highest bidder determines the property's worth.

If the Hammond Effect works then it stands to reason that reducing income
through higher taxes will lower prices.  Ones new-found poverty will cause
prices to drop at a rate exactly equal to the decrease.  By cutting income
in half do house prices drop by half ?  Or is it if income drops from
$ 40,000 a year to $ 20,000 a year the cost of house is reduced by $ 20,000

Don't you think it possible that mortgages would simply average 40 years
instead of 30 years ?

tom
From: daniel@cnam.cnam.fr (Lippmann)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: french litterature in Japan
Date: 7 Jan 1993 03:47:31 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hello, I am interested in the work of 3 french authors(19th century) whose
books have been published in japanese.
- the first and well known one is Jules Verne (nautilus,captain Nemo...). Does
anybody can tell which of his books have been translated in japanese ( and
perhaps still available in bookshops) ? anybody aware of studies done on his
books, name of translators ?
-same questions about the 2 other authors which are (presumably) much less
known, Emile Gaboriau and Fortune du Boisgobey. there were kind of french
equivalent of Conan Doyle (detective stories...). All I know is that they
have been translated from english to japanese by Kuroiwa Ruiko.
thanks for any help  (daniel@cnam.cnam.fr)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: jturley@netcom.com (Jim Turley)
Subject: Wanted: Clothed GIFs of Takahanada
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:30:31 GMT

Ok Ok, I give up.  Is this ok? There actually may be some real interest
in what this popular sumo guy looks like.  After all, he snagged one of
the richest ladies in Japan.  Ok netters, the question is, how come this
guys so lucky?
From: doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: FLASH NEWS!!
Date: 6 Jan 93 23:27:22 GMT
Organization: DEC Japan Research and Development Center

In article <1993Jan6.121648.6879@Csli.Stanford.EDU>, hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:
# JUST HEARD: from a friend.
# 
# The bride of the Crown Prince (Hironomiya) is decided to be Masako Kowada.
# Miss Kowada currently works as a bureaucrat in the Foreign Ministery
# (where her father is the vice-minister), and has long been rumored
# as the number-one candidate.
# 
# Details later.

I was wondering when somebody was going to post.
It was on just about every TV channel last night..

But another rumour that was on TV last night is Takahanada and Rie
breaking up.
--
Hitoshi Doi, International Open Systems Engineering        doi@jrd.dec.com
Japan Research and Development Center               decwrl!jrd.dec.com!doi
Digital Equipment Corporation Japan      [from JUNET: doi@jrd.dec-j.co.jp]
From: jchilber@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jeffrey Allen Chilberto)
Subject: Japan's Music Industry
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Organization: UC Irvine Department of ICS
Date: 11 Jan 93 22:42:42 GMT

I am interrested in traveling to Japan and finding employment
(I already know the odds are against me).  I am also curious
about joining a band while I am there (base).  Here bands who
need members put requests in all sorts of publications;  what
do they do in Japan?  What are my chances (if any) since I am
extremely gaijin (chotto nihon-go o hanashimas).  I am more
interrested in aggressive rock and punk.

Thanks (any information is much appreciated)

Jeff Chilberto

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Subject: Re: Not a Myth at All
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 19:33:39 GMT

In article <C0nBB4.4vJ@news.cs.andrews.edu> maierj@edmund.cs.andrews.edu (Joey Maier) writes:
>>  MM> BTW, just to clear my thought, why Afro-Ameircans were discriminated
>>  MM> against in the US?
>>
>>  MF> It's called racism.
>>
>>  MM> Then, what did (do) Afro-Americans have that made (or still makes?) 
>>  MM> them suffer from racism?
>>
>>I think the point again, that Masuda-san is trying to make is that
>>Blacks as a group disproportionately commit more crimes and continue to
>>be stuck in poverty due to racism which they perpetuate by their criminal
>    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>behavior.  Most black American's don't commit crimes, but enough do and
>>disproportionately, so that the discrimination continues.

>This is sort of a red-herring to the "gaijin okotowari" thred, but I
>thought I would mention it anyway.  The above statement makes a lot of
>sense if you consider it in the light of the inner city riots after the
>Rodney King verdict.  Stealing & looting from innocent shop owners
>certainly is not a good way to endear yourself to the american people.

   In order to clarify the point of my question, I'd like to mention
that I don't think that the crime or poverty of some black people is the
reason for racism in the sense that I used in my question. I just wanted 
to know what made and makes them "commit more crimes and be stuck in
poverty". In other words, my question was intended to mean, "If this is 
something like a situation where one racism led to another racism,
what kind of mentality or reasoing would be the very origin of American 
racism?"
 
--Michiaki
From: mihara@usc.edu (Osamu Mihara)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Sony Walkman
Date: 7 Jan 1993 14:26:54 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu

I brougt my Walkman (WM-F707) from Japan to US.  This model has
AM and FM tuner. There should be a way to change the tuner
setting to fit to US radio bands, but I forget to bring its
manual.  Does anyone know how to change the setting?  Please
let me know by mail.

-OM
From: Mark Crispin <mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Fuji Bank service charge price increases
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:45:35 -0800 (PST)
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Those of us with accounts at Fuji Bank may be interested to know that
effective the 18th of this month, Fuji is simplifying its service charge
schedule for overseas remittances as well as increasing the costs.  The new
charges are:

			US $1000 or less	Over US $1000
Mail Transfer
Demand Draft		JPY 2500		JPY 3000

Wire Transfer
 (another branch)	JPY 3500		JPY 4000

Wire Transfer
 (another bank)		JPY 4000		JPY 4500

The big ouch is on the ``demand drafts''.  You expect to get hit coming and
going with wire transfers, but to get hit up for JPY 3000 when you attempt to
deposit a check *in Japanese yen*, *drawn on Fuji Bank*, is a bit annoying!

I also wonder why Japanese passively accept being hit up for a service charge
for furikomi.  I don't know of any US bank which charges you to deposit into
someone's account!
From: p-kun@blacklabel.Japan.Sun.COM (Kevin Parrington - Nihon Sun Logistics)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: FLASH NEWS!!
Date: 13 Jan 1993 03:36:17 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: blacklabel.japan.sun.com

In article <HARKCOM.93Jan13092901@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp> harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom) writes:
>
>   Must have been a negative time limit :)  The press has been full
>of this since the rumor first broke.  Imagine having ones favorite
>programs interrupted for announcements like:
>
>	"Ms. Owada has now left her residence after having cooked her
>	father eggs for breakfast."


	It truely is getting out of hand....

	Last night on the news they showed the press "hordes" interviewing
	Owada's little sister as she walked the family dog.  They interview
	the restaurant delivery people (what did they order?), they inter-
	view the package delivery people ( who sent what?), and the icing-
	on-the-cake...they interviewed the Germany news crew which came
	to film the Japanese media over reaction of the event.....Hell, there's
	no time for the latest rumor on the Takahanada/Rie-chan break-up !!!

	I'm thinking of cruising by the owada's this weekend just to witness
	the midea nonsense for myself...maybe they'll interview me...not ??

kp
From: naka+@cs.cmu.edu (Yoichiro Nakakuki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Sumo - Hatsu Basho (Preview)
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:25:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.C0r9yB.CDD.1
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1993Jan11.215316.8636@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:

> It also ignores that he has won the "spirit" award at

"spirit" award? 

Do you mean kantou-syou?  No, it means "nice fight" award. It is a bit
different from "hinkaku" or proper spirit that is required to be a
Yokozuna. 

BTW in my opinion, Akebono has very very good hinkaku, but Konishiki
does not. I hope that Akebono will win this tournament and be a Yokozuna.


> If Akebono wins this tournament, he will have the requisite 2 consecutive 
> great tournaments. Has any Ozeki ever won 2 consecutive tournaments and not
> been promoted?

Probably no. But I think it is not impossible. This two-consecutive
winner rule was made only several decades ago. Before that, there were
definitely strong Ozekis that could not be Yokozunas for their lack of
hinkaku.


> Also, has anyone ever been promoted THROUGH the Ozeki to Yokozuna rank? 

No. 

The highest rank of Oh-zumou had been Ozeki until 1911(?), and Yokozuna
was a kind of hall of famer. Only selected Ozeki could be called as 
Yokozuna. That is, Yokozuna was a subset of Ozeki. Although Yokozuna 
and Ozeki are considerd to be different ranks now, it has not been 
changed that only OZEKI has a right to be Yokozuna.

Yoichiro
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,alt.sex,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.african.ameri
From: sorlin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven J Orlin)
Subject: Re: DOES AMERICA SAY YES TO JAPAN? - Off track!!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:42:12 GMT


What the fuck is this doing in alt.sex????
Did it originally start out with provokative Japanese women or something?

Come on guys and dames, edit the Newsgroups line.
-- 
"If I wanted your criticism....it was in my former life."
Steven J Orlin                   /\  /\  /\  /\  /\  /\
sorlin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu/  \/  \/  \/  \/  \/  \
From: jmfuchs@unix.amherst.edu (jesse fuchs)
Subject: Re: Japanese Authors translated to English
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:31:52 GMT

Manjit Bedi (Manjit_Bedi@mindlink.bc.ca) wrote:
> 
> Anyone else out there got some favorite books by Japanese authors?
> --
>         Manjit Bedi
>                 ( Manjit_Bedi@mindlink.bc.ca or manjit@inde.bc.ca )
	Check out anything by the poets Okunari Tatsu and Fujitomi Yasuo,
both of whom are amazing. Also, the book "The Face of Another," by Kobo Abe,
is a wonderful psychological novel.
	For insights on Classical Japanese culture, check out "The Pillow Book
of Sei Shonagon," and "Essays in Idleness," by (I believe) a monk named Kenko.
Both of these are in zuihuitsu (random journal entry) format, so you can flip
through and read bits and pieces without losing anything.
> 

--

"Where imagination is sucked out of children by a cathode ray nipple
 T.V. is the only wet nurse that would create a cripple
 On television, the drug of a nation
 Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation."
				-Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan