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From: duffiem@wl.com (Mark Duffield)
Subject: Re: AUX 3.0 and the IIVX - install -> NO
Organization: Warner Lambert / Parke-Davis
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:28:07 GMT

In article <1227@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov> jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski) writes:
>root@machost (Operator) writes:
>
>>I can see nowhere else to go except to hound apple about this...
>
>"this" being that A/UX 3.0 doesn't run on a IIvx...
>
>>                                                                 If anyone 
>>knows someone high enough in Apple to get results, yet low enought to listen
>>to me about this please let me know about him/her.  I understand that a new
>>director of AUX vars was created... If someone knows how to get to him let 
>>me know.
>
>This seems a bit strange... Apple never said that A/UX would work on
>the IIvx... I would be surprised if they weren't considering updating
>A/UX to run on the IIvx (w/ 7.1) but to complain because it doesn't
>work when it was never claimed that it would...
>

Ah, but they did.  In an Apple publication called "Macintosh Compatibility
Chart" dated October 1992 (Publication number L0270LL/B) a matrix with operating
system down the left hand side and Macintosh Model across the top has the
box checked where A/UX 3.0 and Mac IIVX meet.  I saw this with my own eyes.
The chart was kind enough to supply an AppleLink address and a US Postal
Service Address to ask questions.  The AppleLink address is C.COMM.  Internet
people can send to C.COMM@applelink.apple.com.

The postal address is

Apple Computer
Sales Communications
900 E. Hamilton Ave  MS:73KJ
Campbell, CA  95008

This chart, along with the premiere issue of the Apple Catalog was sent
to user groups.

This is all I know.  Please don't flame the messenger.

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>    Greenbelt, MD 20771         |            - Ren


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From: upsiu@mcs.drexel.edu (Paul Siu)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Deskwriter with A/UX
Date: 7 Nov 92 07:00:05 GMT
Organization: Drexel University, Dept. of Math. and Comp. Sci.

Has anyone try printing from lpr to their network deskwriter?  Every time I
try to print, A/UX complain that the printer is not there.  When I use
atstatus to look up the network name, the name on the deskwriter 3.1 driver
doesn't look right.

I switch back to deskwriter 2.1, and the name looked ok under atstatus, but
when I try using the deskwriter filter (written by Bob Denny at Alisa Systems),
I get pages of garbage.

Has anyone gotten their A/UX to print to their deskwriter under UNIX.   I seem
to recall a discussion about this not long ago.

Thanks
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: leb@edgar.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Larry Bright)
Subject: Re: FTP
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:47:11 GMT

rasmussn@engin.umich.edu (Craig E Rasmussen) writes:

>I have come across a problem while transferring files using FTP.  I
>wanted to transfer a binary file so I set the type to binary.  Then I
>transferred the file from another UNIX machine to my A/UX Mac.  The
>file comes through okay but the file type is sometimes binary and
>sometimes text on the Mac.  Whether the type is binary or text seems
>to depend on the name of the file, i.e., a particular file will always
>come across as binary or always as text.  What I really need is for the
>file to be binary.  Has anyone come across this before?  Is this a bug?

The fundamental reason for this situation is that files transferred from
the Unix machine have no "header" information to unambiguously specify
whether it is binary or text. The finder likes to make a distinction
between the two, but has to either (1) make a fixed assumption for all
files of non-Macintosh origin or (2) try to determine on a case-by-case
basis using some heuristic. Apple impementors chose the latter approach.
(You could call this a bug or a feature, depending on your point of view.)

Experimentation shows that the A/UX system looks inside the file and
makes its own best guess as to whether the file is text or binary (for
the purpose of displaying an icon, at least). For example, a file
containing only ascii text can show up with a binary-file icon if the
first line is longer than some maximum (around 200 characters, if memory
serves). There may be other criteria that are applied but I haven't
ferreted them out.

Solution: you can force the file to the Apple Double format with 'fcnvt'
and then explicitly set the file type with 'setfile'. See the man pages
for these utilities for details.  Hope this helps.
From: drwho@pandoras.path.med.ufl.edu (Robert Rainer)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: System 7.1
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:07:33 GMT
Distribution: comp

Hello

	What is the deal with system 7.1.  I got a copy for my mac, and it 
seems to work fine.  No program conflicts anyway.  The question is what about
A/UX 3.0.  Can 7.1 run on A/UX.  It does not seem to likely.  There is no easy
way to install it onto my unix disk, and when I made a test user, and copied
7.1 over bby hand, and added all the patches, BOMB.....could not load a MBDF
resource.

	Well I am going to hound apple with my one year free phone support,  
I dont expect any earth shattering help.  



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From: paul@hal.COM (Paul Sander)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Apple's A/UX VAR program
Summary: A new one!
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:47:23 GMT
Organization: HaL Computer Systems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: parlo.hal.com

I just read in the Nov. 2 issue of Uniforum's biweekly newsletter that Apple
has started an A/UX VAR program to encourage 3rd party software developers
to port their products to A/UX.  It states that (among other things) Apple
is offering a $6000 rebate to developers who buy three Quadras for their
porting efforts from one of three approved resellers.

The flavor of the article was that Apple was serious about encouraging
developers to support the A/UX platform, and apparently has appointed a
director to see that it happens.  The article itself was a half page long,
about 15% of the total text of the newsletter.
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From: howard@tybalt.ultra.com (Howard Simonson)
Subject: Re: PROB: Have to hit return twice in CmdShell
Reply-To: howard@ultra.com
Organization: Ultra Network Technologies, Inc.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 14:36:26 GMT

In article <Mike_Peters-041192190149@greer.az.stratus.com>, Mike_Peters@vos.stratus.com (Mike Peters) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov4.203718.24567@linus.mitre.org>, rzakon@mitre.org
|> (Robert H Zakon) wrote:
|> > 
|> > 
|> > For some reason my CommandShell has started acting up.  Whenever I type
|> > a command, I must hit return twice in order to get some outback back
|> > (including the next prompt).
|> 
|> I had this same problem on several occasions and called Apple.  Turns out
|> that one of the INIT's or CDEV's in the System Folder was causing a
|> conflict.  The only way to find it is to use...

Or, you might save yourself a lot of time pushing INITs around by sticking
the mouse in the "Never Sleep" corner of whatever screen saver you're using
(or just yank the screen saver INIT).  If typing is suddenly normal, you've
probably found the culprit (screen savers seem to especially cause this).
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From: Gerry.Tomlinson@newcastle.ac.uk (Gerry Tomlinson)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: Desktop file's getting screwed up, What to do?
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:51:20 GMT
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU.


bob@beamlab.ps.uci.edu (bob prohaska) writes:
>
>Recently my aux 3.0 system has started losing things like document and
>program icons, and disconnecting aliases left on the desktop.  
>
>Rebuilding the desktop seems to help for a day or two, then icons revert
>to their generic form and creating applications can't be found.
>
>The system appears to work ok otherwise, and the only new inits are Applied
>Engineering's AE Shadow, and Suitcase II 2.0. (2.1.1 causes a prompt
>crash).
>
>Neither seems connected to desktop files, and the problem develops slowly
>enough that it'll be hard to find the culprit by elimination.
>
>If anybody knows what's going on please clue me in!

Me too!
I've seen this happen on several occasions to different (though similarly
configured) A/UX 3.0 machines. Sometimes the icons don't go but aliases that
I've added to the Apple Menu fail to be resolved - sometimes the icons go as
well.

	Gerry.

Gerry.Tomlinson@newcastle.ac.uk
Computing Laboratory, The University, Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU
Tel: +44 091 222 8139
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: A simple mail notifier hybrid application
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 13:43:35 GMT

gpb@gpb-mac. (greg berryman ) writes:

>pd@bilpin.co.uk (Paul Davison) writes:
>: 
>: This is a *really simple* application that you can throw into your
>: "Startup Items" Folder. It then sits watching your UNIX mailbox and uses
>: the Mac notification manager to let you know when mail arrives. It
>: attempts to work out when you've read the mail by checking things such
>: as the access dates on the file, and its size.
>: 
>: Comments and suggestions welcome!
>: 
>Here is a comment:  IT'S WONDERFULL!!  Seriously, I followed the instructions
>above and double-clicked it.  It launched with no delay.  No questions, no
>configuration, no pain.  I sent some mail to myself and saw a nice icon
>flashing over the apple.  It would seem that the KISS principle works.

>Thanks very much for a very handy app.

Agreed!

One small nit-picky point. I looked at the code for just a smidge,
but it looks like it depends on a change in 'stat' of the user's mailbox
(/usr/mail) to see if new mail has been rec'd. This is great. But, what
if mail exists there that you haven't read when you startup? Not doesn't
(I think) notify you.

Maybe it would be better to, at startup, get the 'stat'. If non-zero,
the Notify.

Whatcha think?
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    Greenbelt, MD 20771         |            - Ren
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Yet more about 'tc'
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 14:04:23 GMT

Is the fact that 'tc' needs to be blocked at 8k a big problem (or pain)
for most people? So far I've heard from only one person who says that it is,
but the only reason is because it makes it tough (impossible) to read tapes
from other workstations that write at 512/1024 and not because of any
A/UX-world problems.

I for one don't mind the 8k blocking at all. It makes the driver more
efficient (and therefore quicker) but you have to recall to block at
8k. Of course, if 'tc' used the tape drive's actual physical block size
as it's blocking factor, then you'd have to block at either 512 or 1024
or 8192, depending on your tape drive so you'd still have to concern
yourself about blocking...

Of course, I may just make 'tc' aware of some other minor device bits
and _maybe_ do stuff there but that's a bit of work and I don't think
I have the time.

What say the world?
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    Greenbelt, MD 20771         |            - Ren
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From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Subject: Re: AUX 3.0 and the IIVX - install -> NO
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 04:00:49 GMT

In article <BxB6yx.IGu@Novell.COM> root@machost (Operator) writes:
> Don`t get me wrong I am a rock solid apple advocate and I am willing
> to give them every benefit of the doubt.  Nowhere have they publicized
> this incompatablity, or a new release to make AUX available to VX users.

Apple has specifically stated that A/UX does not run on the IIvx, and (at  
least in my case) they stated it before the IIvx was officially on the price  
list.  I have echoed this fact to comp.unix.aux in at least one and probably  
multiple threads.  I know I have mentioned it in multiple threads, but I  
suspect some of those were in different usenet newsgroups.

They also said that they have not committed to updating A/UX so that it will  
run on the IIvx.  It's quite possible that the follow-on to the current  
version of A/UX (whatever that might be) will support the new hardware, but  
no firm dates were given for any such support.

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From: kzin@terminus.gatech.edu (John Rudd)
Subject: AUX and SLIP on Powerbooks
Keywords: aux,powerbook,slip
Organization: Georgia Tech College of Computing
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 02:45:00 GMT


I need info on which Powerbooks will run AUX, if any..
what configuration they need, what general things are
available in hardware options that will work wtih AUX..
And how to get SLIP to work with AUX on a Powerbook.

Also, is AUX 3.0 really completely compatable with Mac applications?

Oh..and will a Personal LaserWriter printer work with it?

John Rudd
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: dcoster@theory.pppl.gov (David Coster)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: "top" for AUX
Date: 7 Nov 92 21:38:11 GMT
Organization: Princeton University, Princeton NJ 08540.


Does anybody know of a "top" program for AUX?  I have gotten used to
having it available on all the other machines I work on, and would
like to have it running on my home machine as well.

Dave.
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From: dswartz@sw.stratus.com (Dan Swartzendruber)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: Desktop file's getting screwed up, What to do?
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:14:12 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: redondo.sw.stratus.com

In article <BxM45K.3v@newcastle.ac.uk>, Gerry.Tomlinson@newcastle.ac.uk (Gerry Tomlinson) writes:
> 
> bob@beamlab.ps.uci.edu (bob prohaska) writes:
> >

[desktop woes deleted]

I have noticed several times the disconnected alias syndrome.  The bizarre
thing is that if I do a get info on it, and then click on find-original,
it works!  Weird...


> 	Gerry.
> 
> Gerry.Tomlinson@newcastle.ac.uk
> Computing Laboratory, The University, Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU
> Tel: +44 091 222 8139

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: sdorner@qualcomm.com (Steve Dorner)
Subject: Mouse torpidity
Followup-To: comp.unix.aux
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc.
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1992 17:26:16 GMT

I have just recently (this weekend) installed A/UX 3.0 on my Quadra. 
Amongst my problems is the fact that my trackball (a Kensington TurboMouse)
is way too slow, even if I use the Mouse CDEV to set the speed on its
fastest setting.  If I boot MacOS, I find that the trackball goes far, far
faster with the same mouse setting (too fast, in fact).  Does anyone know
how I can increase the scaling when A/UX is running?  I didn't find
anything useful grepping through the man pages or the FAQ or Inside Mac.  I
develop Mac & UNIX software for a living, so I'm not afraid of grundgy ugly
hacks...

The trackball comes with lovely software for setting this stuff, but it
doesn't work under A/UX, so I don't have it installed at the moment.
From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: POLL: Which tape drive to buy?
Date: 12 Nov 92 12:42:37 GMT
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center

tody@noao.edu (Doug Tody) writes:

>Compression can also cause problems for data transport and should be avoided
>unless you know for certain that both the reading and writing drives use the
>same type of compression.  On most drives that have compression it is possible
>to turn it off - the only exception I have seen is the Archive Python
>compression drive, which doesn't appear to allow compression to be disabled
>(at least none of the software I have supports this).  If so, this is a major
>drawback to this drive for those interested in data transport.  If there is
>a way to disable compression on this drive, the tc driver should support it.

Stuff like this would increase the complexity and size of 'tc' dramatically.

Again, is it to much to ask that if it's written on a compression drive
that it be read on one as well. IMHO having a compression drive and
not using the compression capability is a bit insane... UNLESS, of course,
you'll be slugging the tape between different tape drives and machines.

If that's the case, then all machines should have had the same-type drives
in the 1st place :)

There's a jumper on the Archives that can enable/disable compression as
well as using Mode Select (which overrides the jumper)...
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    Greenbelt, MD 20771         |            - Ren
From: pd@bilpin.co.uk (Paul Davison)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: A simple mail notifier hybrid application
Date: 10 Nov 92 11:11:10 GMT
Organization: SRL Data

>One small nit-picky point. I looked at the code for just a smidge,
>but it looks like it depends on a change in 'stat' of the user's mailbox
>(/usr/mail) to see if new mail has been rec'd. This is great. But, what
>if mail exists there that you haven't read when you startup? Not doesn't
>(I think) notify you.

>Maybe it would be better to, at startup, get the 'stat'. If non-zero,
>the Notify.

>Whatcha think?

Yeah, I did think about this. The way I tend to use my mailbox, stuff
that is Really Important gets left in my incoming folder so that I get
to see it all the time. I thought it was debatable whether I should get
notified about mail I'd already read upon login.

I thought of ways you could check whether there was any *unread* mail
when you log in. Some user agents insert a Status: header in each
message, which would do the trick, but this isn't done by all UAs and I
wanted to keep things simple.

However I think I might be able to use the same trick at startup that I
do to work out if the messages have been read, which is to look at
stat's st_atime field, which isn't altered by write(2), and compare it
with st_mtime, which *is* altered by write(2). I'll have a play with
this today... more later!
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: dgaraffa@bigmac.mskcc.org (Dave Garaffa)
Subject: AUX & Gopher & WAIS & Core DUMPS
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 11:23:20 EST
Organization: Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center
Followup-To: comp.unix.aux

I have a problem and I am not too sure where to post it so here goes....

Unix    : A/UX v3.0
Hardware: Quadra 950 w/16Meg
Software: gopher 1.0.3
          wais-8-b5


I am running gopher 1.0.3 and wais-8-b5, all *seemed* well.

Here is the problem:  When I do a wais search and I get LESS than 40
                      responces everything is A-OKAY!!!

                      But... *IF* I get MORE than 40-50... CORE DUMP
                      location of the CORE is my root gopher dir.

this ONLY happens when I do searches on MY OWN indexes...  when I use
gopher to connect to foo.bar.edu and search their indexes I never get
the CORE DUMP.  (note: I just tried using 'just' the waissearch
software and it still dumped core so it looks like a waisserver problem. 

Any info would be a BIG help....

Dave Garaffa
Manager Macintosh Information Center
Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center
1-212-639-3738
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: bpja@codex.com.au (Brett Adam)
Subject: Signal handling under A/UX
Reply-To: bpja@codex.com.au
Organization: Codex Software Development Pty Ltd
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 09:45:12 GMT

I know that I've already posted this question once before, but I didn't get any  
answers that helped a whole lot, so I thought I'd try again in case a 'guru'  
just happens to read the mail this week .....

I'm trying to get 4.2BSD signal behaviour out of A/UX, to no avail.
I've tried the suggestions in the FAQ, with success.

What I need:

1/ SIGIO signals on sockets that do not interrupt system calls when they arrive
2/ signal handlers that remain installed following receipt of a signal.

I've got the second working, but the first still escapes me.

Calls/mail/etc to Apple have yielded a big fat Zero.

Any help appreciated.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: A simple mail notifier hybrid application
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 12:08:35 GMT

pd@bilpin.co.uk (Paul Davison) writes:

>pd@bilpin.co.uk (Paul Davison) writes:

>>I'll have a play with this today... more later!

>Unfortunately the way /bin/mail delivers messages seems to result in
>the access times being updated as well as the write times. Anyway,
>after some deliberation I thought it would be better to always notify
>if the users mailbox is non-empty at startup, so I have made the
>(trivial) change. Here's the archive again; I would put it up for FTP
>but my site is not on the Internet, so maybe if someone is feeling
>generous...?

Of course...

Look for it as Notify.tar.Z here on jagubox.
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    Greenbelt, MD 20771         |            - Ren
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