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From: 004117a@axe.acadiau.ca (KIM AYRES)
Subject: Re: Trillian TV question
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:56:58 GMT

In article <1gp0voINNhe2@escargot.xx.rmit.OZ.AU> s890412@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU (Chris Diffey) writes:
>From: s890412@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU (Chris Diffey)
>Subject: Re: Trillian TV question
>Date: 17 Dec 1992 04:51:04 GMT
>mcginnis-john@cs.yale.edu (John McGinnis) writes:
>>In article <8f_wZJu00aw5IdaVpy@andrew.cmu.edu> Jason Paul Togyer <jt3y+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>>> published?  Maybe DA originally planned to make Trillian a
>>> bimbo/airhead, and later decided it would be more interesting to make
>>> her one of the more logical and levelheaded people around?  
>>> 
>
>>Well, first of all, I have to say that I have the misfortune of never seeing
>>the TV series, so I can't comment on the bimboness of Trillian in that medium.
>>However, I have read the scripts (many times) and I have the CD's of the radio
>>show, so I do have a feeling as to how she was originally meant to be played,
>>and I think I can safely say that she wasn't meant to be a bimbo.  First of
>>all, she does have a degree in math and another in astrophysics.  Plus, she
>>just doesn't have the voice of a bimbo.  You know, it isn't all bubbly or
>>anything.  She sounds pretty smart.
>
>>Oh well.  These are just my impressions and probably mean absolutely nothing.

>But what the heck, I might as well post them...  :-)
>
>I agree how can she be a bimbo I mean Zaphod is far more a bimboish character 
>then trillian is, ("whats the z for?" "which one?" "any one!") she is the
>only one that knows how to drive the heart of gold. etc. She and Ford are the
>only real froods in the story, just as an aside ford chose his name for
>his assignment on Earth ("the minimal research he had done suggested the name
>Ford Prefect would be nicely inconspicuous") How come Zaphod calls him
>Ford throughout the story? shouldn't he only know his real name from the
>small planet in the vicinity of Betelgeuse? and before you say that he told
>him before he left, Zaphod didn't know Ford was there when he went to the
>party in Isilington and picked up Trisha.
>-- 
>| |/ /		                Chris Diffey                                   |
>|   < URGAN		s890412@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au                          |
>| |\ \  	_______________________________________________________________|



There's a simple explanation as to why Ford is refered to as Ford even after 
he has left Earth: remember that everyone has a babel-fish in their ear. 
This means that whatever Ford is called by Zaphod, it will be transelated 
into the name that Arthur (or we) heard first.

                          KIM AYRES
                       Acadia U. Nova Scotia
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From: aucecil@ecf.toronto.edu (AU CECILIA)
Subject: Re: Another book? (was Re: doug)
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:45:54 GMT

In article <domalley.724433684@unix1.tcd.ie> domalley@unix1.tcd.ie (Slartibartfast            (alias Daniel O'Malley)) writes:
>In <1992Dec14.100602.1@acad3.alaska.edu> fsjdj1@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
>
>>Look at Marvin (but no one really liked him, anyway).
>
>I did!!!
>
>Daniel.
>--
>|       //              |------Daniel O'Malley--domalley@unix1.tcd.ie------|
>|   ===//  ===    ===   |---"In the beginning, the universe was created.---|
>| //  // //  // //  //  |-This has made a lot of people angry and has been-|
>|  ==//   ==// //  //   |--widely regarded as a bad move.":Douglas Adams.--|


Marvin was one of my favorites! 

Luvlots,
Cess                                    (aucecil@ecf.toronto.edu)
         
~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~
Now the world has gone to bed,   Now I lay me down to sleep,
Darkness won't engulf my head,   Try to count electric sheep,
I can see by infrared,           Sweet dream wishes you can keep,
How I hate the night.            How I hate the night.

                   - MARVIN (the paranoid android)
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From: cjhs@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Time
Date: 11 Dec 92 14:31:59 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

"Time is nature's way of making sure that everything doesn't happen at once."

Who said it? Is this quote due to Douglas Adams?

If you know the origin of this comment, please
mail me (cjhs@minster.york.ac.uk).

I do not normally read this group, but it has been suggested to me
that Adams might be the source, so I thought I'd check here.

Thanks -- Chris Ho-Stuart
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Friday, 18 Dec 1992 02:37:55 EST
From: Barry Gates <ATHENA@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: Wodehouse

There's also a thematic parallel with Voltaire, Swift and Rabelais, and
just a bit of Rosseau as time goes on (mostly in MH).
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From: tz10956@meibm9.cen.uiuc.edu (Thomas Zych)
Subject: Re: More on Brick under Hat?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:20:27 GMT

ST201434@brownvm.brown.edu (jude) writes:

>The brick under the hat reminded me of something I once read about somewhere:
>Leaving a shopping bag out in the middle of the road with a pile of bricks
>underneath.  The idea is, a driver assumes it's empty and basically wrecks
>the car.  Pretty evil thing to do.

>Problem is, I can't recall where I heard about this.  I guess it was a book
>but I'm not sure.  Anyone got any ideas?

My memory is a little fuzzy, but I seem to recall 2-3 years ago in the Chicago
area, a family was killed when their station wagon ran into a bunch of milk 
cartons that had been filled with concrete.  Not only evil, but downright
deadly.  Turned out it was a bunch of neighborhood kids who thought it would
be funny...

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From: gisie@wam.umd.edu (Satan)
Subject: *sniff* <SPOILER>
Keywords: fnord
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 03:31:15 GMT


Is this truly the end?  I cant bear to go on...

BTW - what happened to Marvin and Zapphod? Did I miss something
in SLATFATF??


Im depressed,
Tim


-- 
gisie@wam.umd.edu
"How will these windows affect my final document?"
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From: domalley@unix1.tcd.ie (Slartibartfast            (alias Daniel O'Malley))
Subject: Re: Another book? (was Re: doug)
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:34:44 GMT

In <1992Dec14.100602.1@acad3.alaska.edu> fsjdj1@acad3.alaska.edu writes:

>Look at Marvin (but no one really liked him, anyway).

I did!!!

Daniel.
--
|       //              |------Daniel O'Malley--domalley@unix1.tcd.ie------|
|   ===//  ===    ===   |---"In the beginning, the universe was created.---|
| //  // //  // //  //  |-This has made a lot of people angry and has been-|
|  ==//   ==// //  //   |--widely regarded as a bad move.":Douglas Adams.--|
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From: sjl@TEFS1.acd.com (Scot Leibacher)
Subject: Re: Wodehouse
Organization: Applied Computing Devices, Inc., Terre Haute IN
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:07:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.065351.16076@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rfunk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert M Funk) writes:
>I myself had never heard of Wodehouse until I read Don't Panic a few
>years ago.  I finally picked up one of his books (from 1939!) at the
>library today, and I loved it.  Much of it did remind me of DNA, and
>one or two passages were strikingly similar to passages in Adams'
>books.  I must agree with those who compare the two.
>
>-- 
>Rob Funk                          |Internet: funk.17@osu.edu
> events editor for THE INDEPENDENT|       or cc787@cleveland.freenet.edu
> "It's such a fine line between   |"I'm just a soul whose intentions are good;
>   'stupid' and 'clever'."        | Please don't let me be misunderstood"
 
    I also have to admit to not being familiar with Wodehouse. For awhile, I 
though people were talking about that British lady who had the show about
how to train dogs......"WOOOOoooooooookieeeees!!!!!"

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 \                               Scot Leibacher                              /
  >  sjl@tefs1.acd.com        Prodigy ID: CTGD39A           (812) 898-2726  <
 /        "If we weren't all crazy, we would go insane" - Jimmy Buffett      \
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
From: map6459@rigel.tamu.edu (PAUL, MARY ANN)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: hitch.
Date: 16 Dec 1992 01:19 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: world
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Keywords: HHGTTG
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

 See ya around the galaxy....
                       Mary Ann
                       map6459sigma.tamu.edu  

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From: rfunk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert M Funk)
Subject: Re: Wodehouse
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 06:53:51 GMT

I myself had never heard of Wodehouse until I read Don't Panic a few
years ago.  I finally picked up one of his books (from 1939!) at the
library today, and I loved it.  Much of it did remind me of DNA, and
one or two passages were strikingly similar to passages in Adams'
books.  I must agree with those who compare the two.

-- 
Rob Funk                          |Internet: funk.17@osu.edu
 events editor for THE INDEPENDENT|       or cc787@cleveland.freenet.edu
 "It's such a fine line between   |"I'm just a soul whose intentions are good;
   'stupid' and 'clever'."        | Please don't let me be misunderstood"
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From: jtilton@willamette.edu (James (Eric) Tilton)
Subject: Re: TIME TRAVEL
Organization: Willamette University, Salem OR
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:27:43 GMT

In article <Bz9486.4os@cck.coventry.ac.uk> mei141@cck.coventry.ac.uk (PH) writes:
>Well, I read in the star trek section of trn that it is possible to travel in 
>time.  However, it is subject to these three conditions:
>
>	1) Forward time travel is only permitted.
>	2) Time leaps of one second only are allowed
>	3) the time delay for each leap is one second
>
>Hope this will clear up any problems.
>

In my desperate attempt to add to the inanity of this thread >=), I'd like
to point out that this would result in the skipping of every other
second--after all, you'd go for a second, then skip a second, then go for a
second, then skip a second, then . . .

Perhaps a better phrasing would be,

	3) The perceived duration of each leap (to the traveler) is
		one second.

*grin* What can I say?  I just got out of my English final, and *never*
*have* *to* *take* *it* *again* *in* *my* *life*!

Hey, now I can read for leisure again!  Maybe I'll czech out zis Wodehouse
frood . . .

							-et
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/ (James) Eric Tilton, Student AND                        /O\          \
| Willamette University      Student Liason, WITS        /---\         |
| Class of '95 - CS/Hist                                /FNORD\        |
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From: s14109jo@UMASSD.EDU
Subject: Re: TIME TRAVEL
Reply-To: s14109jo@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:55:54 GMT

In article <Bz9486.4os@cck.coventry.ac.uk>, mei141@cck.coventry.ac.uk (PH) writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.120404.6354@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> y41@aix320a.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Jeffrey Hazelwood) writes:
>>In article <Bz3vE1.1Hz@umassd.edu>, s14109jo@UMASSD.EDU writes:
>>|> The truth about Time Travel is:
>>|> 
>>|>     It only exists in the mind..
>>
>>Not true.
>>   
>>|>     It is mathematically possible to construct a working time machine, however,
>>|> the world will end before such technology exists, therefore, a time machine will
>>|> never exist, which is why no one ever comes back in time from one...
>>
>>Look man, I'm a scientist. A time machine would definitely NOT work on math.
>>You need some stuff beyond math, like Timemath or an improbability drive.
>>Anyway, why would people from the future want to come back to such a boring time
>>as now????  There's surely a more exciting time!


THE 60's WOULD BE A GREAT TIME TO TRAVEL BACK TOO

>>|>     Make SENSE????
>>
>>Ahhh? Ich weiss es nicht!
>>
>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Jeffrey T. Hazelwood                    Universitdt Heidelberg
>>EMAIL: y41@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de       Heidelberg, Germany 
>>
>Well, I read in the star trek section of trn that it is possible to travel in 
>time.  However, it is subject to these three conditions:
>
>	1) Forward time travel is only permitted.
>	2) Time leaps of one second only are allowed
>	3) the time delay for each leap is one second
>
>Hope this will clear up any problems.
>
>Stephen Buxton
>
>aka mei141@uk.ac.cov.cck
>
>Disclaimer: opinions expressed here are not mine but that of a small fish that
>lives in my ear.
>
ALL LIES...NO DOUBT..
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Sunday, 13 Dec 1992 13:26:20 EST
From: <MDSQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: A possible problem with the improbability drive
 <92Dec2.170918edt.97@smoke.cs.toronto.edu>



In article <92Dec2.170918edt.97@smoke.cs.toronto.edu>, pedmonds@cs.toronto.edu
("Philip G. Edmonds") says:
>
>In article <2DEC92.20563958@vax.clarku.edu> lfinkelstein@vax.clarku.edu writes:
>>The drive makes something really improbably happen, provided you know
>>exactly how improbable it is.  My question is...
>>
>>Wouldn't the existence of the improbability drive greatly reduce the
>>improbability of everything?  The more improbable something is, the
>>more probable it is that the improbability drive will cause it to
>>happen.
>>
>>Comments?
>>
>
>They had to invent the Bistro-mathic Drive
>because they were running out of improbable events.
>
>Phil.

Actually, there's no problem. The probability of a certain _location_
(notice location, not happening) is related to the odds of someone ending
up there. If the drive makes somewhere improbable easier to get to, it makes
all places easier to get to. Therefore, there are still places that are
less probable than others, but you still need the drive to get there. And
this has no bearing on the apple I ate for lunch.

-------
-- Sal "Hope I helped" Desiano

You can find me at your neighborhood grocery store in
  the breakfast foods aisle, or by sending bits, bytes and
    burps to: MDSQC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU, or by yodeling words, songs
      and, yes, burps to Work:1(718)260-3349 or School:1(212)339-????
        or Home:1(718)859-7012, with a machine gun on the first two.

            The Saviour of Breakfast, Away!
From: davet@uk.sun.com (Dave Tong - Sun UK - Tech Support)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: Trillian TV question
Date: 15 Dec 92 13:03:32 GMT
Reply-To: davet@uk.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems Ltd.

In article wZJu00aw5IdaVpy@andrew.cmu.edu, jt3y+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jason Paul Togyer) writes:
> 
> Wasn't the TV show based on the BBC radio show scripts, NOT on the
> books?  And weren't the radio scripts written before the books were
> published?  Maybe DA originally planned to make Trillian a
> bimbo/airhead, and later decided it would be more interesting to make
> her one of the more logical and levelheaded people around?  
> 

Radio first (and best), then books, then TV.
The first four episodes on radio/TV and book 1 closely match.
It's book 2 that started to change the story - they changed
the Hagunemnon fleet (sp?) into a robot space craft.
(Which doesn't work for me - after all, why would Hotblack Desiato
have taken a remote controlled stunt ship to a restaurant with him?)
As far as I can see, once a change is made it stays made - so the
TV series and records follow the book rather than the radio series.

Trillian was never a bimbo - she's got "a degree in Maths and another in
Astrophysics". It's just Sandra Dickenson can't act to save her life.

Personally I'd like Adams to concentrate on Radio Series 3.
I want to know how Ford and Zaphod get away from the man who runs the universe.


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From: boek@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Christopher Boek)
Subject: Re: Video formats. Irrelevant but interesting ...
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 07:38:19 GMT

john7552@mach1.wlu.ca (Niall Johnson u) writes:

>Actually you can now buy VCRs which will play tapes of either format - they
>automatically detect the format and play the tape.

>I'm not sure of the general availability of these machines - I have a friend
>in Australia who bought one about 6 months - he ordered from a regular home
>electronics/furnishing store.

>My understanding is that they are a little more expensive than a regular VCR
>(to be expected) but are not too expensive.

>Ciao

>Niall Johnson,

Yeah, I bought one. You can get them anywhere here in Australia, and in
several brands. Panasonic have one (or so), I got the NV-F55, I think
Mitsubishi have one too. Sony probably do too. I dunno about playing
PAL tapes on NTSC players, which is really what the problem is
regarding the Hitchhikers tapes isn't it. Oh well. I have heard that
they do exist, but then I don't live in America and such a player is
of absolutely no interest to me *:).

Chris.

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From: mei141@cck.coventry.ac.uk (PH)
Subject: Re: TIME TRAVEL
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:31:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.120404.6354@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> y41@aix320a.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Jeffrey Hazelwood) writes:
>In article <Bz3vE1.1Hz@umassd.edu>, s14109jo@UMASSD.EDU writes:
>|> The truth about Time Travel is:
>|> 
>|>     It only exists in the mind..
>
>Not true.
>   
>|>     It is mathematically possible to construct a working time machine, however,
>|> the world will end before such technology exists, therefore, a time machine will
>|> never exist, which is why no one ever comes back in time from one...
>
>Look man, I'm a scientist. A time machine would definitely NOT work on math.
>You need some stuff beyond math, like Timemath or an improbability drive.
>Anyway, why would people from the future want to come back to such a boring time
>as now????  There's surely a more exciting time!
>|>     Make SENSE????
>
>Ahhh? Ich weiss es nicht!
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Jeffrey T. Hazelwood                    Universitdt Heidelberg
>EMAIL: y41@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de       Heidelberg, Germany 
>
Well, I read in the star trek section of trn that it is possible to travel in 
time.  However, it is subject to these three conditions:

	1) Forward time travel is only permitted.
	2) Time leaps of one second only are allowed
	3) the time delay for each leap is one second

Hope this will clear up any problems.

Stephen Buxton

aka mei141@uk.ac.cov.cck

Disclaimer: opinions expressed here are not mine but that of a small fish that
lives in my ear.

--
From: oahvenla@snakemail.hut.fi (Osma Ahvenlampi)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: Radio Scripts
Date: 13 Dec 92 18:06:25 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
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In-reply-to: mike@win3's message of Sun, 13 Dec 1992 04:32:24 GMT

In article <Bz6KM0.D1D@matilda.vut.edu.au> mike@win3 (Michael Paull) writes:
>	Being a huge Douglas Adams fan, and an even bigger fan of HHGTTG,
>i've been trying to locate a file i'd seen some time back. The file was a
>complete copy of the original radio scripts, it might have been a couple of
>files, not sure. Does anyone know of an ftp site that has it? or if someone
>has it, can they email it to me .. 

How about buying the book?
The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - The Original Radio Scripts
By Douglas Adams, forewords by Geoffrey Perkins and Douglas Adams
Pan Books, ISBN 0-330-29288-9
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From: glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: Trillian TV question
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:31:43 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

In article <8f_wZJu00aw5IdaVpy@andrew.cmu.edu> Jason Paul Togyer <jt3y+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>I'm probably gonna get flamed like crazy for my ignorance, but...
>
>Wasn't the TV show based on the BBC radio show scripts, NOT on the
>books?  And weren't the radio scripts written before the books were
>published?  Maybe DA originally planned to make Trillian a
>bimbo/airhead, and later decided it would be more interesting to make
>her one of the more logical and levelheaded people around?  
>
Radio 
TV
Books
this was the order (more or less)



>Just a thought.  Maybe someone could help me out with the timeline.  I
>don't remember the exact order that everything transpired (I know, look
>it up in the FAQ).
>
>*******************************************************************
>Jason Togyer, Civil Engineering, CMU (Carnegie Tech), Pittsburgh, Penn.
>"It's broccoli, dear."
>"I say it's spinach, and I say to hell with it!"
>--'30s NEW YORKER cartoon caption by James Thurber
>*******************************************************************
>DISCLAIMER: I'm completely insane, and take no responsibility for my actions.
>  For that matter, neither does any organization I'm involved in.


-- 
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I come to bury this dirtball, not to praise him. Whaddya |harvard.isr.edu
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From: jimgar@scorch.apana.org.au (Jim Garner)
Subject: Re: Another book? (was Re: doug)
Organization: Craggenmoore public Unix system , Newcastle , Oz
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 09:45:17 GMT

fsjdj1@acad3.alaska.edu writes:

|Besides, who could pass up the opportunity to write a sex scene between Zaphod
|and Trillian(s)?  And where, exactly, did Fenchurch go?  I think Adams liked
|her too much to just let her blip out.  I could be wrong.  Look at Marvin
|(but no one really liked him, anyway).

Now wait a _minute_! Marvin is one of the clear thinkers of the age.
Having gone through billions of years of the universe's history
_twice_, his thoughts justify the world-view of everyone who's ever
been depressed. But he SURVIVES.

I know D.A. believes readers feel this way. Why else would he advise
them in book 4 to skip Arthur & Fenchurch's sex scene and go straight
to the last chapter "which has Marvin in it". :-)

-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA