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From: jtod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John "Jeep" Todd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Compiling Wizards? Try this one on for size.
Summary: Need help compiling TERM099n for NeXT
Keywords: NeXT, TERM099n, compiling, dweezil
Date: 24 Jan 93 03:08:40 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York


I have a question regarding a program called TERM099n and it's compilation
and running behaviour on a NeXT.  This program is actually several programs
designed to enable a person without root access or "permission" to run
several shells at once or even several Xwindows through ONE serial line all
at once.  (Simulates ports on a single serial line - does automatic data
compression so it's reasonably fast even over a modem)  One first compiles
the program on the "host" machine (it's standard unix stuff) and them runs a
server program called "term".  Then the client machine EXITS out of whatever
terminal program was used to initialize the serial connection and then
compiles/runs "term" and re-directs i/o to the serial line.  EG: "term
-s9600</dev/cua>/dev/cua"  (-s9600 specified the baud)  Now, I could go on
about all the things I have done to make this little program work (and it
really is small - 95k I think for EVERYTHING in source form)  and I don't
have any luck.  I've run all the test programs that are included, and I've
monitored the data coming in and out, all to no avail.  There seems to be a
partial connection when I initialize my end of the term here on the client
machine, but then no shell comes up in my window.  This seems like an
INCREDIBLY useful program, since it doesn't require all the hassle of SLIP
and it runs without needing root permission right from the user's shell.  If
some Unix/NeXT wizard finds this program useful, or just wants to give a
non-wizard a hand, please try and re-compile this program which is found at
archive site sunsite.unc.edu in /pub/Linux/Incoming among many places (try
an archie on it for the most recent version).   My only BIG worry is that it
is a Linux-specific program.  I don't know this for a fact, though.  The
only other person that has tried it that I know of is using Linux, and it
works, however there is a flag to set within the program for NeXT, so I
guess it's compatable.  Also: if anyone has xcomm compiled for the NeXT, I'd
appreciate a copy, since that's what my Linux friend uses for establishing a
connection and I can't get it to compile on my NeXT. (My NeXT BTW: 3.0 25mhz
Station 20megs serial line to ROLM network, full developer's package)

Thank you for at least reading this.... :)
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer
From: t8221az@next3.lrz-muenchen.de ()
Subject: Handling RTFD Files with Objective-C
Keywords: RTFD
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:01:54 GMT


Who has experience with or examples for the Objective-C methods:

		readRTFDFrom:
		saveRTFDTo:
		openRTFDSelectionTo:
etc.

??

Matthias, t8221az@next1.lrz-muenchen.de

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer
From: abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell)
Subject: Re: reading CD data
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:56:31 GMT

mike@media-lab.mit.edu (Michael Hawley) writes:
>Anyone have the driver code to read digital data
>from audio CD's using the CD-ROM drive?
>Digitizing through the DSP is adequate but silly.

This is, of course, highly desirable.
It's also illegal.
It's also possible, but requires a ROM change.
Anybody up for dissassembling and rewriting a ROM?
The next problem is how to distribute such a ROM,
since the music industry has persuaded the Feds that such a capability
is in the same category with bomb technology. <}:-)

Steve abell@netcom.com
From: heading@ccint1.rsre.mod.uk (Anthony J.R. Heading)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: autonfsmount with file for a map
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:53:00 GMT
Organization: Defence Research Agency
NNTP-Posting-Host: amigos.dra.hmg.gb

Has anyone used autonfsmount successfully using a file for a map?
Despite hours of playing about, I couldn't get anything apart from
the fstab version (as kicked up in rc) to work. Which is no use
to me since the /Net/host format thus enforced is completely
different to the one I need. I think there's a bug, but if anyone
has got it to work, just  'echo yes | mail heading@ccint1.rsre.mod.uk'
and I'll go back and try some more...

Cheers
Anthony
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 20:59:17 MST
From: yackd@idaho.et.byu.edu (Don Yacktman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer
Distribution: world
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Subject: Re: Music Kit Question


In article <1993Jan21.231029.3409@leland.Stanford.EDU>, daj@ccrma.stanford.edu writes:
>In article <aw#@byu.edu>  writes:
>> 
>> 
>> I've been playing around a lot with getting background scores
>> playing in my games, and have run up against a couple of problems.
>> 
>> I can get either sound effects _or_ music to work quite well alone,
>> but getting both simultaneously from the same app does not work.
>> I have a few theories about why this is, and how to fix it...but
>> if someone else has got sound playback and music working simultaneously
>> from the same app already, I'd be interested in a few tips.  I
>> looked at the latest Ensemble, and it too can only do sound _or_
>> DSP synthesis, but not both together.  Ack!  Of course, if I spin
>> off a separate process to play the scorefile and do the sounds from
>> the game itself, everything works fine.  This is easy with distributed
>> objects, but I'd rather have my ScorePlayer object reside in the
>> same process, since this is wholly inelegant.  (It works, though.)
>> 
>
>I don't understand the question.  One of the most interesting features of
>the latest Ensemble (3.1 music kit) is the ability to combine playing of
>sound files with DSP synthesis.  This DOES work.  
>
>I suggest looking closely at how Ensemble does it and do the same thing in your
>application.

I answered this is e-mail, but since the replay was posted, too, I
thought I ought to clarify for any confused net readers...

The problem I had was that I couldn't get Ensemble to do sound+music.
Looking at the source, I see it should, and I suspect it's my lack of
knowledge about Ensemble that was the block there.  I wish someone
who knew how to use it would take the time to write decent user docs.

Anyway, sound+music is pretty easy under 3.0, and I did figure it out.
The next release of PacMan will include the necessary source code, so
any of the curious will be able to muck around with it.  It you need the
source before then for any reason, just ask me and I'll send it.  The
basic solution is to create your own sound out device and your own play
stream and then play the sounds by enqueueing the data buffer on the
play stream.  You _cannot_ use the -play* methods in the Sound object,
though, since they do something which conflicts with the music kit.  In
fact, I've found those methods to be very buggy and not worth using,
especially if a sound will be played back repeatedly, such as in a game.

Questions, flames, etc. should be mailed to me...

Later,
-Don Yacktman
yackd@alaska.et.byu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer
From: cs4gp6aa@maccs.mcmaster.ca (Appavoo      J)
Subject: GNU - gcc2.3.3 ??
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:11:17 GMT


Can anyone tell me where I can get the lates version of gcc (2.3.3???)
and all the correct libs to compile c++ and c.  Thanks.  

                                  Jonathan
                                     Appavoo.

(I assume it comes with a new make i am having probs with the make
that came with the machine).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer
From: kieffer@spf.trw.com (Robert Kieffer)
Subject: <Help> Problems with multiple DPSTimedEntries...
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 00:14:48 GMT

Hi folks,

I've run into a problem while using more than two DPSTimedEntries...

I'm setting up a program that samples data from the DSP and subsequently  
displays it in multiple views (ten to be exact). I'm using a single  
DPSTimedEntry to call the routine that samples data from the DSP and a  
DPSTimedEntry to call the display routine for each view (one entry per  
view)... hence, eleven DPSTimedEntries in all.  I do this to distribute  
the display of the views, so that I don't have large gaps in the sampling  
of the DSP.

Anyway, the DPSTimedEntry for sampling the DSP sets up fine, as does the  
one for my first view that I'm displaying in... but the subsequent 9  
DPSAddTimedEntry calls return "0" (not "-1" as the documentation says it  
should in the event of an error). The display objects/code are contained  
in a nib file that I load at run time for each of my 10 views(windows), so  
I'm pretty sure that I'm doing everything identically for each of the  
views... but only the first one works.

Is there a limit to the number of timed entries that an application can  
have?  Has anyone run into this problem before?

Thanks,
Robert Kieffer
kieffer@spf.trw.com
From: tjb@strangeways.unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker)
Subject: RGB Values of "NeXT Help Blue"
Reply-To: tjb@strangeways.unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker)
Organization: Baker Consulting  -  Dover, NH
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:07:22 GMT


Hello,

Does anyone know the exact rgb values of the blue that NeXT uses in their help  
panels (like for Mail)?  It has the quality of being blue on color machines and  
pure light grey on monochome ones.  

Thanks,
tjb
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=====================================================================
| Thomas Baker        Director of the New Hampshire NeXT User Group | 
| P.O. Box 213           Internet/NeXTmail: tjb@strangeways.unh.edu |
| Durham, NH 03824                   Voice: (603) 743-4987          |
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From: klui@corp.hp.com (Ken Lui)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: reading CD data
Date: 25 Jan 1993 20:10:17 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company
NNTP-Posting-Host: klui.corp.hp.com

In article <1993Jan25.183547.20473@netcom.com> abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell) writes:
>Yes, there are devices that output digital data, but I believe it is the
>case that no *legal* consumer-grade devices are available that will
>record those streams.

Consumer-grade DAT decks equipped with SCMS will let the user
record any original digital source.  SCMS will prevent the user
from making a digital copy from the first copy.  The bad thing
about SCMS is that it's indiscriminant and can't tell a CD from
an original source.


Ken
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Corporate Administrative Information Systems        Palo Alto, CA  94304   USA
Core Application Technologies                1(415)857-3230 Fax 1(415)852-8026
From: bbum@stone.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: RGB Values of "NeXT Help Blue"
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:09:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: stone.1993Jan26.180924.278
Reply-To: bbum@stone.com
Organization: Stone Design Corp

In article <1993Jan26.010722.7575@strangeways.unh.edu>  
tjb@strangeways.unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker) writes:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Does anyone know the exact rgb values of the blue that NeXT uses in their  
help  
> panels (like for Mail)?  It has the quality of being blue on color machines  
and  
> pure light grey on monochome ones.  
> 
> Thanks,
> tjb

Nope-- but it is easy to figure out;  launch Mail, open Help, click  
Format->Font->Colors...., grab the magnifying glass, grab a chunk of blue,  
switch to the RGB color picker and read the numbers:

(R 51, G 68, B 136)


> --
> =====================================================================
> | Thomas Baker        Director of the New Hampshire NeXT User Group | 
> | P.O. Box 213           Internet/NeXTmail: tjb@strangeways.unh.edu |
> | Durham, NH 03824                   Voice: (603) 743-4987          |
> =====================================================================
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Stone Design Corp  |   ...things don't run the way I planned them." p.gabriel
From: magnus@nexto.udac.uu.se (Magnus Ring)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Question: NeXT programmers book
Date: 25 Jan 1993 11:00:15 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
NNTP-Posting-Host: nexto.udac.uu.se

I've heard there exists a book on programming on the NeXT.
Could someone give me the name of that book and mabye some other information
on it.

Thanks in advance.

/Magnus Ring
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer
From: kieffer@spf.trw.com (Robert Kieffer)
Subject: Re: RGB Values of "NeXT Help Blue" -- NOT 12-bit pure !
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 17:03:39 GMT

In article <1k8i4n$mhl@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu  
(Izumi Ohzawa) writes:
> 
> Actually, on a closer examination,  Mail's Help Panel text color gets
> dithered on Color Station.  There are actually two kinds of pixels
> (RGB) = (51, 68, 136) and (RGB) = (51, 68, 153).  The former gives
> B=0.5333 and the latter gives 0.6.  So, it's not a 12-bit pure color.
> You've got to pick the color on a NeXTdimension to get the correct
> information.
> 

My NeXTDimension gives RGB = (51, 68, 152) FYI.

Robert Kieffer
kieffer@spf.trw.com
Organization: Information Technology Center, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 21:23:38 -0500
From: cap+@cmu.edu (Chris Paris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Next-Attachment header

I've seen the document that others have described that describes the
NeXT mail format. I, too, can't find it right now. However, grab
tnextmail from sonata. It creates Next-Attachment headers
according to the document. Look at the function
construct_attach_header() in batch.c.

--
Chris Paris
cap+@cmu.edu (NeXT mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer
From: t8221az@next3.lrz-muenchen.de ()
Subject: Handling of RTFD Files with Objective-C ??
Keywords: RTFD
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:29:16 GMT


Who knows how to handle RTFD Files with Objective-C or has
example programs in Objective-C ??

(methods readRTFDFrom:, saveRTFDTo:, openRTFDSelectionTo: etc.)

Matthias

Munich, Germany
t8221az@next1.lrz-muenchen.de
From: xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Scott R Violet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Query about Scroll Views
Date: 22 Jan 1993 23:30:13 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu


HI all,
	I am a little confused about the nature of the scroll view.
The confusion of course comes from ignorance about the behavior of the
scroll view.  Anyway, I am wondering just how a scroll view works.
For example, in digital librarian you type in a search and get a bunch
of icons below with the results.  Usually the list is more then a
screen full, so you have to use the scroller.  What I am wondering is
if DL actually has to recalculate and redraw the scroll view each time
it is scrolled.  Or, is there some tricky way to do it so that the
scroll view actually does the recalculated and what not.  I guess what
it comes down to is, if I want scrollable graphics, do I need to
overwrite the drawself with some code to calculate what should be
redrawn in the doc view of the scroll view?  I hope that I haven't
been to general in my question, but any input would be great.
Thanks in advance,
-- 

		-Scott Violet (xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer
From: wisinski@SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Dennis Wisinski)
Subject: Re: IXKit Examples please
Reply-To: wisinski@SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Dennis Wisinski)
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:45:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.141825.582@otago.ac.nz> gideon@otago.ac.nz writes:
> 
> 
>  Does anyone out there have any simple examples of how to
>  use the indexing kit? Something like an address book or
>  similar would be most appreciated, so I can get an idea
>  of how to use the various components of the kit.
> 
>  Thanks in advance for any help.
> 

Have you looked in /NextDeveloper/Examples/IndexingKit ?

--
Dennis Wisinski,   Stanford Linear Accelerator Center      
P.O. Box 4349, MS 97   Stanford, CA 94309
wisinski@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT Mail)
From: zazula@soliton.physics.arizona.edu (Ralph Zazula)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Music Kit Question
Date: 22 Jan 93 09:11:34 GMT
Organization: Pinnacle Research, Inc.

In article <1993Jan21.231029.3409@leland.Stanford.EDU> daj@ccrma.stanford.edu writes:
>In article <aw#@byu.edu>  writes:
>> 
>> 
>> I've been playing around a lot with getting background scores
>> playing in my games, and have run up against a couple of problems.
>> 
>> I can get either sound effects _or_ music to work quite well alone,
>> but getting both simultaneously from the same app does not work.
Hi -

Are you running NeXTSTEP 3.0?  Have you recompiled your app under 3.0?
Also, I'm not sure if the -play method of the Sound class uses the new
sound streams or not but you can get the DSP synthesis and sound playback
to work if you use an NXPlayStream with your sound data.  

Ralph
---
Ralph Zazula
Pinnacle Research, Inc.
zazula@pri.com (NeXT Mail)
(602)529-1135
From: tjb@strangeways.unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: RGB Values of "NeXT Help Blue"
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:28:43 GMT
Reply-To: tjb@strangeways.unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker)
Organization: Baker Consulting  -  Dover, NH


The color I'm looking for is not one that can be produced purely (i.e. without  
dithering) on a 16Bit display so you can't just use the mag glass.  Look  
closely and see that there is more than one color in their blue.  Take the  
51,68,136 value and look at it in TwoBitGray (dwrite Edit NXWindowDepthLimit  
TwoBitGray).  It doesn't show up as pure NX_DKGRAY.  

You can experiment and get several values that are close but none that seem to  
match perfectly.  I was hoping some one actually knew what the color was.  

I ended up using is 65,79,169.  It's a little lighter but will have to do.

Thanks Anyway,

tjb
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=====================================================================
| Thomas Baker        Director of the New Hampshire NeXT User Group | 
| P.O. Box 213           Internet/NeXTmail: tjb@strangeways.unh.edu |
| Durham, NH 03824                   Voice: (603) 743-4987          |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer
From: fud@leland.Stanford.EDU (Fred Lide Cheng)
Subject: NXBrowser
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 19:37:06 GMT

Please disregard my previous posting,


another question from a NeXT beginner.  I'm trying to use an NXBrowser
to display the titles of a list of objects.  I want the program to 
start with nothing in the list and as the user adds objects, the NXBrowser
should display their titles.   But I'm kind of confused as to what exactly
I'm supposed to set up (matrix,delegate, NXBrowserCells) and how to do this.

Any help would be appreciated.

Fred

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer
From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: CALL FOR PARTICIPATION - OOPSLA '93  (Sept. 26 - Oct. 1, 1993)
Reply-To: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 23:08:21 GMT

In article <6363@rosie.NeXT.COM> Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.com (Conrad Geiger -  
Manager, International NeXT User Groups) writes:
>>OOPSLA '93

Hmmm...Not one person from NeXT is OFFICIALLY involved with OOPSLA ?
Somehow I don't like the sound of that - seeing that NeXT is such an avid user  
and promoter of object technology.

Tell me I'm wrong. Please.

--
Ronald Pomeroy		"The Internet is just a giant petri dish"
Advanced Micro Devices
CAM Applications Group
rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (NeXTmail preferred)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer
From: bbum@stone.com
Subject: BackSpace Developer's Community Project
Reply-To: bbum@stone.com
Organization: Stone Design Corp
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:25:42 GMT


Recently, I have been playing with a BackSpace view that was ported to the  
NeXT by Jeff Adams called MartinView.  It has a basic "Hopalong" fractal  
algorithm that generates some extremely cool patterns...

Wick (Pete Wickersham) and I added mouse control to it;  basically, vertical  
motion forces it to erase whatever is on the screen, and horizontal motion  
forces it to change algorithms....  

It was easy (as is most mods to BackSpace views), and I'm sure there are  
others out there who would have useful contributions, as well.

So, here is the plan; let's open up MartinView (and a couple of other basic  
BackSpace Views that have lots of room for development) to a moderated  
developer environment...

Wick and I will volunteer to moderate for now-- we have an account set up at  
Stone specifically to hold the source archives to do this....

If you are interested in finding out more about this, send mail to:

<gd@stone.com>

with a request for the docs.

To participate, you either need:

NeXTMail (or the ability to generate NeXTMail style attachments)

or

splitmail/joinMail (or some other uuencoded style of transfer that we can  
easily deal with).

b.bum & wick
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From: curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: reading CD data
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:15:29 GMT
Reply-To: curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In comp.sys.next.programmer, mike@media-lab.mit.edu (Michael Hawley) writes:
>Anyone have the driver code to read digital data
>from audio CD's using the CD-ROM drive?
>Digitizing through the DSP is adequate but silly.

I don't think it's possible with the NeXT CD-ROM drive (or with
most CD-ROM drives for that matter.)

The problem is that CDs have a strange blocking.  If I remember the
numbers correctly, CDs use 24 byte frames. 98 frames form one subcode
block - which contains 2352 bytes of music data and 98 bytes of subcode
data.  75 of these blocks makes up exactly 1 second of stereo 44.1K
music.  CD-ROMs store only 2048 data bytes in each of these 2352 music
blocks.  As I understand it, the standard chips that are used in CD-ROM
drives to read data don't give you access to the extra bytes in each
block, so at best, you would on be getting 87% of the music data.

I've read that the CD-ROM drive on some SGI systems can read all
the music data, so at least someone has made a CD-ROM drive that
can read the music data, but I think it requires more than just
the right software driver.  I could be wrong however.. the NeXT
CD-ROM might be able to do it.

On a related subject, I heard that some of the "newer" NeXT CD-ROM
drives could read multi-session Kodak Photo-CDs.  Does anyone know
if this is true?

Curt