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From: toolan@scivax.stsci.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Rescuing Racing Greyhounds
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:43:12 GMT
Distribution: usa,na
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute

In article <1992Oct16.142657.7043@linus.mitre.org>, vv@mbunix.mitre.org 
(Ventrone) writes:

> My wife and I just heard about a program (for lack of a better term) to find
> homes for Greyhounds that have been retired from racing.  The friend who told 
> us about this claims that the dogs are very suitable as pets (partly because 
> their life on the track is pretty bad, so they are delighted to be in a 
> real home).  The claim is that they are docile and do not--contrary to what 
> I would have thought--need unlimited amounts of exercise each day.  

	True! All true!

>Anyone in this newsgroup a Greyhound owner who can shed some light on the idea 
> of providing a home for one of these dogs?  What are their personalities like?
> Are they worth anything as watchdogs?  Do they really not require heaps of
> exercise?

	I will forward some stuff to you through email, and I suspect you will
	hear from others besides me...  Greyhounds, generally are laid back,
	gentle, intelligent, sensitive, clean, etc., etc., etc.  They DO NOT
	require heaps of exercise.  I am in the process of teaching mine to
	bark when someone knocks on the door.  If someone got inside the
	house, I suspect they'd trip over Topaz--she delights in throwing
	herself belly-up in front of me so I can rub her tummy!

> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> -- 
>    Vince Ventrone
>    The MITRE Corporation       "...In my opinion, there's nothing in this
>    Bedford, MA 01730           world beats a '52 Vincent
>    vav@mitre.org               and a redheaded girl."  -- Richard Thompson



	I'll be glad to answer any questions you might have.  If I don't
	know the answer, I'll try to find it for you.

		*	*	*	*	*
				*
	Sharon Toolan		*	My opinions are my own;
	toolan@stsci.edu	*	no one else would want them!
				*
		*	*	*	*	*

"Mom" to Amber (8 yr old retired racing Greyhound)
     and Topaz (3 yr old retired racing Greyhound)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs,rec.backcountry
From: cbrand@cac.washington.edu (Carol Brand)
Subject: Re: Dogs and backpacking
Organization: UW Networks and Distributed Computing
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:12:34 GMT

In article <Bvxroq.3E3@news.cso.uiuc.edu> imkg2726@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ilana M. Kingsley) writes:
>I'm interested in taking my pooch backpacking with me, but he has never
>done this.  He's a 2 yr. old malamute/collie that I recently adopted, so until
>he learns to come when called he'll be on a leash.
>
>Several questions on the topic:
>Does giardia affect dogs?
>How can you train him for river crossing?
> & crossing in *cold* and *fast* water?
>How can you train him to cross thin logs, etc.?
>And any other comments you may have...
>
>I'm planning on taking him on the long trail, in vermont, over the summer and
>possibly to Big Bend national Park is Texas for Christmas (if dogs are 
>allowed).
>
>-Ilana Kingsley
> Dept. of Leisure Studies
> University of Illinois

Ilana,

I just wanted to relate a tragic dog/hiking story to make you think about
taking your dog backpacking with you.  Friends of an office co-worker were
hiking with their Golden Retriever.  The dog flushed a bird and chased it
right over the edge of a cliff, falling about 300 feet to its death :^(

If you want to backpack with your dog, I would say that you need to spend
a lot of time doing obedience work first.  Your dog should be able to
sit, stay, drop (instantly), and come everytime regardless of the
distractions. You could also do agility work to train your dog to walk
over narrow boards, crawl under obstacle or jump on command.

Things that I would also think about re backpacking are:

who will carry the dog's food?
Where will he sleep at night (he sounds too big to share a tent with)
How will you restrain him if he doesn't sleep in the tent

I have never heard of a dog suffering from giardia, but if you are hiking
a stretch where water is scarce, will you be able to carry enough for the
two of you?

Also, he sounds like he probably has quite a coat on him.  How will the
summer heat effect him? 

Finally, as someone already pointed out... Dogs are not allowed in
National Parks.

Good luck, hiking with dogs can be wonderful!

-Carol
From: CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Conformation vs. Confirmation (was Re: Dog & Protection)
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:36:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: tamvm1.1687E953E.CBARNES
Organization: Texas A&M University

In article <1992Oct9.170853.11345@morrow.stanford.edu>
    liza@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Liza Miller) writes:
 
>>                        |  6 Confirmation Titles
>                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Chris, Chris, Chris, Chris, Chris, Chris.  Those dogs have confOrmation
>titles, not confIrmation titles.  It proves that they CONFORM to the
>standard for the breed -- unless perhaps they have all been through
>CONFIRMATION in the Catholic Church?????
 
Ya know, I had been using Conformation for a long time now (for the
reasons that you mentioned.  But my wife was looking in the book
"The German Shepard Today" by Winfried Strickland and she used
Confirmation.  My wife also said that she read something from the
AKC that used Confirmation.
 
 
So group, which is it?  (IMHO, Conformation still makes more since!)
 
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Chris Barnes            |     Sonny's Yellar Dawg Dixie SH
cbarnes@tamvm1.tamu.edu |              x
(409) 846-3273 (home)   |  HR Millercreek's Cash Payoff MH
(409) 845-4437 (work)   |       (finished MH title at 1992 Nat'l Master)
                        |
                        |    She had 10 pups (5 male, 5 female)
From: kirkpatrick@medgen.waisman.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: New puppy threatened by old cat
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:15:11 GMT
Organization: Waisman Center, University of Wisconsin-Madison

sounds and acting for all the world like she's thinking of making an easy kill.
I'd appreciate any advice, words of experience, etc. by E-mail if possible.
From: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Show Brag Update
Date: 8 Oct 92 08:59:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: kathleen.brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us (Kathleen Brewer) 

TO: posie@cbnewsg.cb.att.com

DO>NORA THE NORFOLK HAS ANOTHER GREAT WEEKEND!

DO>Nora (Churchwood's Stowe Away) was entered this past
DO>weekend at Hatboro, Devon and Montgomery all in PA.  She
DO>won her class all 3 days ...and at Devon on Saturday she
DO>was Winners Bitch and BOW for a 5 point major!

DO>At the all Terrier (Montgomery) show on Sunday she was
DO>BOS in the Norfolk sweepstakes.

Congratulations on your wins!!

Out of curiosity do you know who won in Wire-Haired Fox Terriers?
Was it Lacy?

Thanks,
Kathleen.Brewer@cutting.hou.tx.us
---
 . OLX 2.1 . I'm in shape ... round's a shape isn't it?
From: seale@bcserv.wustl.edu (Seale (Jeff))
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Neighbor Update & Thanks
Date: 7 Oct 92 21:45:40 GMT
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bcserv.wustl.edu

Thanks to everyone who sent suggestions!
I spoke at some length with the other neighbor who is at home
most of the day and she assured me that my Afghans were not
a problem. She was glad that they were suspicious of strangers
and helped her to keep an eye on things.
At this point we have notified the landlord in writing of the
last 2 problems. We decided not to get the police involved at this
point. Since this was the only time the guy has been this way, we
decided that maybe it was just a bad day. However, the very next time
those brat kids do anything, the police will be called first.
As for my boys.. I think we are going to build a good-sized run for
them(away from the jerks side of the yard). Our lease will not allow
us to have an indoor pet(we hope we can find a place next summer that
will), so I think this is the best affordable option at this point.
This a** doesn't know the first thing about dogs. It's funny that he didn't
even know what they were when he first saw them 2 months ago, but now
knows their exercise needs, feeding schedule, etc. enough to call the
Humane Society(BTW there is no restriction on lead size as long as they
have access to shelter).
Anyway, thanks again to all my new friends on the net!
I have a few behavioral/psychological questions I want to ask soon!
Cheers,
   Jeff    jeff@grserv.wustl.edu
From: st1pt@Elroy.UH.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Jogging with my dog
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:59:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: menudo.1992Oct16.155950.23051
Reply-To: st1pt@Elroy.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston

I have a seven-year old yellow(blond) lab/mix. I recently started
jogging/walking with her along the 4 lane divided road behind my
house and have encountered several problems. 

1) Blondie is afraid of cars that come up behind us. We walk on
the sidewalk along a relatively quiet 4 land divided road. When
we walk toward the traffic (i.e she can see the cars coming)
she's fine. But when we turn around and walk with the flow of
traffic and the cars come from behind, she looks behind her 
everytime one passes and sometimes cringes or shys away(and
trips me up). She is especially afraid of schoolbuses and
firetrucks, and to a lesser degree vans and trucks.
WE adopted her as a 3 month old stray and suspect that she
had been abused or at the very least neglected. She has never
liked men (except my dad) and is skittish about large black 
objects. I don't of any bad experiences with cars. The
reason this problem has come up before was that I used to 
avoid the streets and walk along a ditch that runs behind the houses.
This trail was recently paved, however and now lots of other 
people use it. She's been known to lunge at strange men so
I try to avoid the trail now
Anyway, I've tried not to "praise" her when she's scared. I try
to just ignore the cars and praise LOTS when she doesn't shy
away from them. It seems to help a little sometimes.
Am I doing it right? Any other suggestions?

2)She tries to pee a lot as we're walking. I tried to give her a corrective
jerk on the leash and keep on moving, but now she's learned how to squat
quickly on the sidewalk and be through before the leash jerks on her.
Any ideas on how to help this? She's an outside dog, so I don't know
when she's already gone to the bathroom or when she needs to. How
can I teach her to go before we leave?

Sorry this got so long. I apprectiate any help you can give me!

Amy
--
Amy Shinpaugh
st1pt@jetson.uh.edu
From: lynette@oliver.sun.ac.za (Lynette Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Feeding frequency for large dogs
Date: 14 Oct 92 10:16:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: hippo.1992Oct14.101647.4454
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Hi there.

I have a (Rhodesian) Ridgeback bitch who is 15 months old now.  She used to eat twice
a day, but I switched her to once a day (in the mornings) a month ago.  However,
I recently heard a vet claiming that it can be quite dangerous to feed a large
dog only once a day, especially if they eat dry food pellets.  The reason apparently
is that because they eat so much at one time, the stomach may actually twist around
when excessive or sudden movements occur shortly after feeding.

Any comments?

Lynette van Zijl
Stellenbosch (lynette@cs.sun.ac.za)

PS.  Oh yes, she weighs about 42kgs (what is that in pounds? I THINK it's about 90 pounds)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: joe@modcomp.uucp (Joe Korty)
Subject: Chocolate is a DEADLY POISON to your dog
Organization: MODCOMP, an AEG company
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:45:17 GMT

I just lost my 2 1/2 year old Golden Retriever last night.  That
morning she had broken into the pantry and ate about a third of a can
of powdered coca.  She had a heart attack some eight hours later.  Up
to then she behaved normally.

We had no idea chocolate was a deadly poison to dogs.  No friend or vet
had had ever mentioned it.  Nothing that I have read on dogs, which
includes several books and a slew of waiting-room pamphlets, had even
hinted about it.  I'm not sure what the silence is all about; maybe
everyone else in the world was born Knowing the Answer, so no one ever
needed to talk about it.  But I doubt it.  So here is a lesson for the
few (or many) of you whose pantries are still chocolate time bombs for
your dogs.

(According to the emergency room vet, chocolate is a stimulant to which
the dog nervous system has no defense.  The heart, brain, etc, become
overactive, and then shut down, for all but trivial doses.)

(Too bad I haven't been a subscriber to this group; I can't help but feel
this is not the first time a message like this has been posted).

joe korty
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: hckrus01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: Feeding frequency for large dogs
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:08:27 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Oct14.101647.4454@hippo.ru.ac.za>, lynette@oliver.sun.ac.za (Lynette Lewis) writes:
> Hi there.
> 
> I have a (Rhodesian) Ridgeback bitch who is 15 months old now.  She used to eat twice
> a day, but I switched her to once a day (in the mornings) a month ago.  However,
> I recently heard a vet claiming that it can be quite dangerous to feed a large
> dog only once a day, especially if they eat dry food pellets.  The reason apparently
> is that because they eat so much at one time, the stomach may actually twist around
> when excessive or sudden movements occur shortly after feeding.
> 
> Any comments?


This is ABSOLUTELY correct -- torsion is a major problem in big dogs!!!

I will post the latest guidelines on what to do to avoid torsion/bloat
if people are interested.  I don't have it with me now, but I can bring
it in tomorrow.

Holly
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: wanda@b3.b3.ingr.com (Wanda Worland)
Subject: Source for Ridgebacks
Organization: Intergraph
Distribution: rec.pets.dogs
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 13:02:33 GMT


Anybody know a reputable source for Ridgeback
hounds in Alabama?  Any help would be greatly
appreciated!
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: smm1@troy.uucp (22142-michelson)
Subject: Re: pet peeves OR "what breed is that?"
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 14:18:39 GMT

My favorite mistake as to what kind of dog my Dachshund is, was when I was
walking her in the neighborhood, and two women were "fast walking" in the
opposite direction. As they passed, one said to the other "Oh look - a
Dalmatian!)" I think they just had their "D" dogs mistaken. Usually people
know exactly what she is, but, since she's a long-haired variety, they
are sometimes confused because of how hairy she is. Until I started really
investigating the breed, I didn't know there were long-haired Dachshunds,
either, so I don't take any offense if they think she's a cross between
a Dachshund and, perhaps, a Cocker Spaniel.



_______________________________________________________________________________
Steve Michelson                |   Paying tolls is like throwing money out
Bell Communications Research   |   the window.
smm1@troy.cc.bellcore.com      |
From: michael.hagerty@nitelog.com (Michael Hagerty)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Potential first time
Date: 10 Oct 92 08:58:00 GMT
Reply-To: michael.hagerty@nitelog.com (Michael Hagerty)
Organization: Nitelog BBS - Monterey, CA - 408-655-1096

In article <18800@bunny.GTE.COM>, dwo1@gte.com (Donald W. Ottens) writes:
|> I'm am curious now about having a dog of my own, i.e., one that lives with
|> me, but I need to know what it would mean to take responsibility as a dog
|> owner at this juncture in my life (I moved away from home when I was 18yrs
|> for school and haven't had to take care of a dog since).

On 10-10-92, SKY WARRIOR writes:
SW> Do research into the breed to see if that is the type of dog for you.
SW> How do you find out?  First, buy a couple of books on the breed in
SW> question (in your case Labs) and read them.  Then, call up a couple of
SW> vets and animal obedience schools and explain that you are interested
SW> in that breed and see if they know any clubs and breeders in the area.
SW> If this falls short (which in most cases it won't) check the Yellow
SW> Pages under animal or pet services -- usually there is an all-breed
SW> referral service listed.

Two additional suggestions:  Visit an all-breed dog show and ask questions
of the people showing their dogs.  Most times, they are really open about
the advantages/disadvantages of their breeds.  Once you feel comfortable
with your decision about a particular breed, contact the local rescue
organization for that breed.  In many cases you will find a healthy,
socialized and already housebroken dog just pining for a new and caring
home.  Many of the rescue organizations are really picky about who will
get the dogs they are holding.  Don't need to provide a second bad trip
for the rescued animals...

SW> STAY AWAY FROM PET STORES!!!

Amen, brother...

Regards, Mikey (michael.hagerty@nitelog.com)
 * JABBER v1.3B1 #B042 * Zounds!  Five Basset Hounds on the bed at once!
                                                                         
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: hckrus01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: Dogs in Pick Up Trucks AGAIN
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:32:56 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <92285.113756U58664@uicvm.uic.edu>, Francine Cannarozzi <U58664@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>  On a busy street, I saw a pick up truck FLY by.
> In the back bed was a large, black lab.  The dog was not
> restrained in any way at ALL.  He was roaming around the bed, and as
> they passed us, and I could tell the dog was trying to brace himself
> against the movement of the truck to keep his balance.  It was a large
> dog and the sides of the truck bed hardly topped his legs. Traffic
> was busy, and this guy was going WAY to fast, with or without a dog.
> 
> HOW STUPID! One quick stop or swerve to avoid a pot hole, and that dog
> was destined for disaster.  I cannot believe the contempt that person
> obviously has for his dog's safety and well being.  It was an accident
> waiting to happen.

I know several months ago I voiced my opinion on this topic, but I can't 
resist the opportunity to do it again.  Over the years that I worked in a
vet's office, by far the most pelvis fractures that we saw were in dogs
that had fallen out of the back of pick-up trucks.  The problem was
especially prevalent around this time of year -- hunting season.

I have no idea how to deal with these idiots - at least not until they've
lost a dog or had their dog maimed through this sort of accident.  If you
must put your dog in the back of a pick-up, be sure that it is in a 
crate that is secured securely!!!

Holly
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: massey@cwis.unomaha.edu (Dana Massey)
Subject: Re: Barking
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:30:10 GMT

We have two new weimaraner puppies...one barks constantly, one doesn't...
we have tried a lot of things when we are at home which DO WORK--can full
of pennies hurled across the room (NOT AT THE DOG MIND YOU), a squirt
bottle of water (squirted at the pups face)...but when we are not in 
close proximity, the barking is annoying.  We purchased a SUPER BARKER
BREAKER for $54 from Omaha Vaccine--IT D O E S NOT  WORK!  Save your
money on this one...luckily, Omaha Vaccine was most gracious is accepting
it back for a full refund.  The mechanism squeals loudly (not unlike
a smoke detector) each time the dog barks...well, the pup figured it
out in a hurry and used it as company...bark reply: squeal  bark reply:squeal
well that was worse than just bark bark bark...My friend used one of
the electronic dog collars that automatically shocks when the dog barks 
with a very very slight zing.  I'm not sure I can do that...maybe as a 
last resort, but not yet...

Dana Massey
From: tims@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Digging Dog
Date: 12 Oct 92 09:55:33 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

My 10 month-old golden retreiver likes to tunnel to Africa.  
When I leave her in the yard, she finds 
a nice, soft place and digs a hole.  My main question is:  why does she 
want to dig?  Also, is there anyway to get her to stop?  It's not a big 
deal if she digs in the yard, but I would prefer if she didn't.  Any 
suggestions?

Thanks,

TIM
From: en01@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (EUGINA M. NOVAK)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Dogs and backpacking
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:46:06 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <14967@auspex-gw.auspex.com>, johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <Bvxroq.3E3@news.cso.uiuc.edu> imkg2726@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ilana M. K
ingsley) writes:
>>I'm interested in taking my pooch backpacking with me, but he has never
>>done this.  He's a 2 yr. old malamute/collie that I recently adopted, so until
>>he learns to come when called he'll be on a leash.
>
>If this is someones idea of a sick joke it's not very funny.

Am I completely dense or what?  Where's the sick joke?  What's wrong with
taking a dog backpacking?  Or the fact that he's on the leash?  I'm really
confused.  Does somebody want to clue me in?

--Gina Novak
  (en01@lehigh.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Subject: Re: Dog & Protection
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:22:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.204408.25082@u.washington.edu>
   cbrand@cac.washington.edu (Carol Brand) writes:
 
>OOOOOH!  Is Chris using a dog for a purpose other than the one it was
>bred for?  OOOOOOH!  No doubt that by using a lab (who should only be
>used for hunting!) as a "guard-dog", he is single handedly perverting the
>breed ;^)
>
>Seems the shoes on the other foot now Chris...
>
>:^) :^) :^)
>
>-Carol
 
 
Touche` !    ;-)
 
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                        |  Pure Breed Labs - ready on Thanksgiving Day
Chris Barnes            |     Sonny's Yellar Dawg Dixie SH
cbarnes@tamvm1.tamu.edu |              x
(409) 846-3273 (home)   |  HR Millercreek's Cash Payoff MH
(409) 845-4437 (work)   |       (finished MH title at 1992 Nat'l Master)
                        |
                        |  They were born on Thursday (Oct. 8).
                        |  She had 10 pups....5 male & 5 female
From: ret@brtph606.bnr.ca (Rod Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Rottweilers or something else?
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:53:39 GMT
To: 01mbmccabe@bsu-ucs.uucp


Info on greyhounds (from my office wall)

Contact: National Greyhound Adoption Program
         (retired racing greyhounds)
         --supposedly calmer animals than you would think
Phone: (215) 331-7918 or 1 (800) 348-2517

Note: over 60,000 greyhounds are destroyed each year
      -- don't support racing...

Friend at work is getting one; this agency is serious
about finding GOOD homes; lots of paperwork and they
check you out (including calling neighbors) to make sure
that you can provide god home.

Good luck
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs