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From: farrell@coral.cs.jcu.edu.au (John Farrell)
Subject: Re: Constitutional amendments (was: question on aborigines)
Organization: James Cook University
Date:  6 Apr 92 08:03:06 GMT

In <1992Apr6.044649.27892@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au> Christopher.Vance@adfa.oz.au writes:
>	Australian Antarctic Territory (international status disputed,
>		I guess these people also vote at home, or maybe at
>		Antarctic Division HQ in Hobart)

  I think the deal is that nobody really owns any of the Antarctic, but some
places claim it. More is claimed than is really there, so the claims are quite
tenuous. Argentina, for example, claims more than anyone else allows them.
A few places (Aus, NZ, USSR?, France, USA etc) have bits in which they have
priority for scientific research I think? but the more civilised amongst those
places do not claim actual ownership, just some lesser right.

>The following is not an Australian territory, but is instead a British
>territory:
>	Pitcairn Island (most(?) inhabitants were moved to Norfolk
>		Island in 1856)

  And then most of them moved back. I think there are about 60 people there
now, still mostly descendants of the Bounty mutineers. Their idea of work is
selling postage stamps to collectors, and cane baskets to international
pleasure cruisers.


Friendless
From: bajajk@topaz.ucq.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Textile designing----Uni. selection.
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:55:25 AET
Organization: University of Central Queensland, Australia


   Hi,

      I am trying to find out the Australian Universities that can offer 

      a master's course in TEXTILE DESIGNING..

      Textile designing is not Fashion designing or Textile engineering.

      It is about the patterns and artistic designs for clothes etc..

      Any kind of info. would help...

      Thanx in advance.....
From: reno@darlo.Eng.Sun.COM (Reno Marioni)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Sydney Nightlife
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:50:24 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: darlo



Keith,
I tried replying to you directly so I am posting here. I lived in 
Sydney for a year--the place is full of parties.  Most people
crash house parties but there some really good nighlife spots--you might
want to go to "Paddington" or "Darlinghurst" area of inner Sydney.
"Kinsela's" is good on Oxford Street(trendy).  "Paddington Green" is a trendy pool
hall with good music and beer.  Play down the American image--Americans
are called "septic tanks" because they are square and full of shit. Be cool
and don't talk about politics, or compare how big everything is or how much
cheaper things are here.  The English are reffered to as Pommes and there 
are lots of pommes in the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney.  Aussies are really cool 
and fun people and expect to get the piss taken out of you.

2 days is nothing.  Take a bus to "Watson's Bay Hotel/Bar"
in Watson's Bay--it's great--a view of the harbour, good piss(beer).

Also, Bondi Beach and Tamarama beaches are good and easy to get to from
innner sydney(dirty by aussie standards)--the northern beaches are nicer, however.

If you go anywhere--also to the north is Fraser island, Byron bay, and in
qsld near Cairns("cannes") is Cape Tribulation--good diving near cairns.
These are some good spots that are easily arranged without a car for travellers.
(Lots-o-buses)

Reno

ALso, check out Lonely Planet City Guide on Sydney.
There are some good flea markets on the weekend in Glebe/paddo.


Hi Glenn, Pauline, Simon (if you read this,that is)
From: jcooley@seqp4.sequoia.com (John Cooley)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Messages To Perth
Keywords: Perth, commincations, low budget
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:13:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: seqp4.1218
Organization: Sequoia Systems Inc., Marlboro, Mass.

What's a quick, cheap way to get information from Boston, USA
to Perth, Australia ?

My girlfriend's in Perth visiting her grandmother until the 19th of
April and I thought it'd be fun to surprize her with a tape letter
or some other communication before she returned back to Boston.

Phoning is very expensive and clumsy; can't get timing always right.

I have doubts that the U.S. Mail would get something to Perth in
say 3-4 days; once it's out of their hands and in Australia, I could
easily see a tape letter sitting for weeks before it was delivered.

I have images of thousands of programmers simultaneously whining about
net bandwidth - please direct e-mail suggestions to me, OK?

					-John

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From: rhys@cs.uq.oz.au (Rhys Weatherley)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Making Cricket Exciting
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:04:34 GMT
Reply-To: rhys@cs.uq.oz.au

In <839@pico.OZ> dean@pico.OZ (Dean Economou) writes:

>I shall probably be flamed for even suggesting that cricket is tedious
>and dull to watch.

Not by me you won't! :-)

>		     But ever since I was little, I can remember that the
>only fun bits were bowling and batting.  This set me thinking as to how
>the game could be made more interesting.  The obvious solution is to let
>the whole team bowl and bat:  Just think of 11 pitches, 11 people
>bowling and batting, all at the same time.  To my mind this would be a
>much more interesting game.  Apart from the way it would stimulate
>sporting goods manufacturing, the higher rate of injuries would add to
>the game's popularity on television.

>Perhaps some of you sports lovers out there could think of different
>variations, or even other games that could be improved?  :-)

It can be improved.  The pitches mustn't be parallel or widely spaced.  They
must be placed randomly on the cricket ground, with at least 7 pitch crossings.
Each bowler is given 3 balls at a time which must be bowled all at once, down
3 different pitches.  No warning is given as to which pitches are being bowled
down.  There's only one wicket keeper (poor guy!), and umpires are optional.

:-)

Cheers,

Rhys Weatherley, member of the "Stamp Out Cricket on TV that causes Star Trek
to be Cancelled Society".   [Actually, if cricket was modified in this fashion,
I may not mind Star Trek being cancelled, because cricket would be so much
more interesting! :-)]

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From: bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Constitutional amendments (was: question on a
Date: 8 Apr 92 03:00:53 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.210416.2269@cbnewsd.cb.att.com>, barth@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (barth.richards) writes:
> Hey, you forgot the Hutt River Province!  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)

        Hutt River Province is not a member of the Commonwealth of Australia.
Hutt River is an independant Principality (It's run by a Prince), with it's
own administration (and currency, postage stamps, etc). Having a passport
when going there is appreciated. The Prince is from Eastern Europe (I can't
remember his name or exactly which country he's from), and fled Europe to
escape either the nazi's or the Russian takeover of Eastern Europe.


           Bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au  OR  bull@monu1.cc.monash.oz
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From: brennan@coco.cchs.su.oz.au (Luke Brennan)
Subject: Re: Dual Pay Structure ?
Organization: Cumberland College of Health Sciences
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:49:42 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.040030.14788@newshost.anu.edu.au>, kcj@vulcan.anu.edu.au (Kate Juliff) writes:
> In article <122406@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> hudek@polaris.llnl.gov (David Hudek) writes:
>>
>>My wife told me of a female aquaintance who was considering moving
>>to Australia, but was put off by what she (the aquaintance) claimed was
>>an "official" dual-scale salary structure based on gender, where females
>>are paid less than males.
   [...]
> than men, on average. Equal pay for women was brought in in the
> 1970s by the Whitlam government. Before that, men were paid more
> for the same job as women, and the wage was termed a "breadwinners" wage.

	yeah.. and my mother brought up four children as the 'breadwinner'
	on 60% of the male wage...

	Thank God for Whitlam!!!!  

> There are still less women than men in the well-paying positions.
> I think this is probably true in most countries.

	and it's bloody appalling...

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From: miw@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (Mark I. Williams)
Subject: Re: Cocky stories (was Golden Syrup)
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 03:56:33 GMT

ccd@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Carol C Denehy) writes:

>In article <1992Apr14.171749.17839@aeras.uucp> jasonh@aeras.UUCP (Jason Harris) writes:
>Indeed. I have a friend in the Washington DC area who has a sulpher-
>crested as a pet. She paid $1200 for it. I delighted in telling her
>they fly over (thank goodness) my back yard daily.

Not to mention the time I took a friend who was a "refugee" from South
Africa in the bad old days out to the family farm. One day we had a
flock of about 10 red-tailed black cockatoos in the Cedar tree out the
back of the kitchen and he nearly died. Seems they were worth about
$10 000 each back in SA.

cheers,

--
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+61 7 36 54012   (w)  Prentice Centre
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From: Christopher.Vance@adfa.oz.au
Subject: Re: Constitutional amendments (was: question on aborigines)
Originator: cjsv@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au
Organization: Computer Science, University College, UNSW/ADFA, Canberra, AUSTRALIA
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 04:46:49 GMT

casley@Tarski.Stanford.EDU (Ross Casley) writes:
|>Are there other territories?
|I'm not sure.  A few Pacific and Indian Ocean islands might be
|territories, places like Norfolk Island and Pitcairn Island and
|the Cocos Islands.  I'm really unsure about the status of the 
|Australian Antarctic territories.  They might not be considered
|part of Australia at all, despite the name.

The following territories are mostly administered as part of
Australia, and have significant permanent populations (i.e., more than
several hundreds, but not more than several thousands each):

	Cocos (Keeling) Islands

	Christmas Island (that's the one in the Indian Ocean, not the
		one in Kiribati, in the Pacific Ocean, which I think is now
		spelt Kritimati Island)

	(I think these two territories participate in Federal
	elections as part of the NT electorate.  As for local
	administration, I don't know.)

The following territories are mostly administered as part of
Australia, and have no significant populations:

	Coral Sea (Islands?) (population is 3 meteorologists, I guess
		these people vote at home)

	Ashmore and Cartier Islands (visiting Indonesian fishermen
		leave environmental damage, no permanent population)

	Heard and MacDonald(?) Islands (way south, no permanent
		population, unless its a small number of
		meteorologists and other scientists)

	Australian Antarctic Territory (international status disputed,
		I guess these people also vote at home, or maybe at
		Antarctic Division HQ in Hobart)

	(I guess that these are each determined as being under the laws of
	this or that state or territory, depending on location and history)

The following is mostly self-administered, but is treated as an Australian
External Territory for some purposes:

	Norfolk Island (these people are desperately trying not to
		vote in Federal elections, they have never considered
		themselves Australian and require Australians to have
		valid passports before they can visit, they are also
		exempt from Income Tax, and other modern abberations)

The following is not an Australian territory, but is part of New South
Wales:

	Lord Howe Island (this is part of the Federal electorate of
		Sydney; I have no idea how they vote in NSW state
		elections)

The following is not an Australian territory, but is instead a British
territory:

	Pitcairn Island (most(?) inhabitants were moved to Norfolk
		Island in 1856)

Cocos, Christmas, and Norfolk are all big enough to have IDD phone
services under the Australian External Territories country code, and
each has its own area code under that.  See your phone book for
details :-).

I'm not sure if I got it all right; the world-factbook source under
WAIS (advertisement) isn't available again until late my local time so
I've had to resort to memory.

-- Christopher
From: jasonh@aeras.uucp (Jason Harris)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Cocky stories (was Golden Syrup)
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:17:49 GMT
Reply-To: jasonh@aeras.UUCP (Jason Harris)
Organization: Arix Corporation, San Jose, CA.

In article <1992Apr12.110912.88558@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au> bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:

>
>        The same way they pull roofing nails out of iron roofs. *I'M
>NOT MAKING THIS UP*. The cockies really piss my parents off at times (my
>folks run a farm in Victoria). Dad curses them for pulling the nails
>out of the roof (something I've seen them do) and mum gets upset when
>they pull all the clothes pegs off the clothes line, dumping all the
>washing on the ground in the process. They're increadably tough birds.
>In the wild they grow really long beaks that end in small hard points
>which they use for prying and digging with.

What should perhaps be mentioned is that corrugated iron roofs tend to 
expand and contract throughout the course of the day, and over a period of
years this will loosen the nails which the roof has be secured with.
Waking up om a summer morning to the sound of a corrugated iron roof, or
going to sleep on a winters night with the sound of rain bouncing off the 
iron have got to be some of the best things in the world.

I'm not saying that cockatoos aren't tough though. The black cockatoos in WA
would periodically come flocking past our place (making their characteristic
noise) and would alight on the Norfolk Island Pines that we had in our
backyard. They would pull the sealed pine cones off the tree and would
pry them apart with their beaks. We would collect up the husks from the ground
and use them as kindling for the wood stove. 

>        Cockatoos normally come in either white with a yellow crest
>and yellow wing and tail undersides, or black with the crest and wing
>and tail undersides varying from a bright orange colour through to a
>vivid red. The black cockies are not common.

Want to hear a really surreal cocky story? I was in a pet store in Fremont,
California the other weekend and I was checking out the merchandise. In a cage
was a fairly poor example of a Sulphur Crested Cockatoo. The price? $1000 US.
I understand that even the lowly Pink and Grey Galahs and 28 parrots (I think
that is a WA name only) go for outrageous sums.

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Jason Harris (22,Leo,ElectronicE)
 an ex-resident of Perth, Western Australia, lately of Milpitas, California

E-MAIL: apple.com!aeras!jasonh 
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I don't think. Therefore I am.
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From: matth@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Matthew Hannigan)
Subject: Re: Cocky stories (was Golden Syrup)
Organization: Uni Computing Service, Uni of Sydney, Australia
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 09:53:59 GMT

In article <4673@cluster.cs.su.oz.au> andrewt@cluster.cs.su.oz.au (Andrew Taylor) writes:
>In article <brian.703130163@coombs>, brian@coombs.anu.edu.au (Brian) writes:
>> 	Not quite.  In Northern Australia the black Cockies are rather
>> common.  In addition Cockies come with in many different shades of grey,
>> black and white with assorted different coloured crests.  ....
>> 
>There are 12 species of cockatoo in Australia and some more on the
>islands north of here.
>
>> Perhaps the most spectacular one I know of is the Cane Cockatoo ...
>
>Thats the Palm Cockatoo found in Australia only on Cape York.
>
>> The prettiest one though I think must be the south-eastern Red
>> Cockatoo (its rather rare and now only really occures in South Australia)....
>> Its deep black with bright red under wing feathers and crest.  When its
>> flying you get these deep, bright red flashes of colour as it flies along.
>
>No Australian cockatoo (or parrot) fits your description. Were you returning
>from the pub when you saw this bird?
>
>Andrew Taylor

Have you seen the poster `Parrots and Cockatoos of Australia' by
the National Parks and Wildlife Service?  I dunno if they're all
different species, but they list about a hundred or so.  Of enormous
variety, too.  I wouldn't be surprised if there one such as he
describes..

-Matt
From: abbey1@husc9.harvard.edu (Joshua Abbey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Re: Theft (Robert Nagy is still a thief) *Please Read*
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:00:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Apr13.110023.11038
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard University Science Center


	This may not really be the forum to air this, but my site
	no longer receives feeds for the aus.* groups...

	This article is a repost of one that never made it to a group
	that many people read, so I figured I'd repost it (just this
	once, though   ;-) )

		I'd appreciate it if you all would actually read this article
	and send me any comments/flames/etc you have, as well as any 
	suggestions...

	And if any of you happen to go to NTU-Darwin, or know (of) Robert
	Nagy, I wish you'd drop him a line as well (or even if you 
	don't know him...the more mail the better...)

			Thanx for your consideration...article repost
							follows...

						-josh
						abbey1@husc.harvard.edu
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From: aschwart@acs.ucalgary.ca (Arthur Schwartz)
Subject: Golden Syrup
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:54:36 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
Keywords: Sweets  syrup dessert

In North America, try corn syrup whenever the recipe reads
"Golden Syrup."  That's a generic name; brand names will differ
from place to place. 


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From: jasonh@aeras.uucp (Jason Harris)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Australia's REAL Royal Family
Keywords: Leonard and Shirley
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:40:19 GMT
Reply-To: jasonh@aeras.UUCP (Jason Harris)
Organization: Arix Corporation, San Jose, CA.

In article <1992Apr8.130053.88533@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au> bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:

>        Hutt River Province is not a member of the Commonwealth of Australia.
>Hutt River is an independant Principality (It's run by a Prince), with it's
>own administration (and currency, postage stamps, etc). Having a passport
>when going there is appreciated. The Prince is from Eastern Europe (I can't
>remember his name or exactly which country he's from), and fled Europe to
>escape either the nazi's or the Russian takeover of Eastern Europe.
>

Prince Leonard and Princess Shirley, if I remember correctly. Hutt River
Province is up near Geraldton in WA. Nobody takes Hutt River Province too 
seriously, the tourists go there and get postcards while Princess Shirley
makes tea and scones. Prince Leonard was (and I think still is) a farmer. He
originally decided to secede from the rest of the country for the purposes 
of avoiding taxation. The taxation department doesn't entirely agree with
Prince Leonard's self imposed independent status.

When we had the last CHOGM (Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting OR
Coons Holiday On Government Money) Prince Leonard was reportedly
distressed that he wasn't invited.

Jason.
From: dean@pico.OZ (Dean Economou)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Making Cricket Exciting
Date: 7 Apr 92 07:14:07 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, Uni. Western Australia.

I shall probably be flamed for even suggesting that cricket is tedious
and dull to watch.  But ever since I was little, I can remember that the
only fun bits were bowling and batting.  This set me thinking as to how
the game could be made more interesting.  The obvious solution is to let
the whole team bowl and bat:  Just think of 11 pitches, 11 people
bowling and batting, all at the same time.  To my mind this would be a
much more interesting game.  Apart from the way it would stimulate
sporting goods manufacturing, the higher rate of injuries would add to
the game's popularity on television.

Perhaps some of you sports lovers out there could think of different
variations, or even other games that could be improved?  :-)


Dean
(and I won't put my good address in here)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
From: lwesterag@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Mitchell Plateau holiday
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 01:01:22 GMT

Hi,
I'm heading up from Perth to the Mitchell Plateau (top end of W.A.) in June
or early July.  Has anyone been out that way?  Recommendations on anything I
shouldn't miss? I will be in a 4WD.  Also, when is the wet season?
Thanks in advance 
Gill
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