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From: jwindley%cheap.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Jay Windley)
Subject: Re: Transporters and replicators
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:42:44 MST
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

guest@voyager3.sdsu.edu (Guest User) writes:
>Can anyone tell me the principle behind the transporters ?
>In one episode, Riker tells someone that the food replicators
>replicate food using the pattern buffers used by 
>transporters. In some other episode, someone tells that a certain kind of
>food cannot be replicated as its structure is too complicated
>How does the transporters transport a complex  organism as
>a human being and yet the food replicators which uses the transporter
>patterns cannot replicate a food ?

The replicators do not use the same pattern buffers as the
transporters.  The transporter is an analog device; the replicator is
a digital device.

The transporter is limited by pattern latency (a pattern can only stay
in the buffer for four minutes before beginning to degrade) and the
fact that the pattern cannot be stored, say, in a computer for future
reference.

The replicator is limited by the size of pattern data sets.  Patterns
are stored with a lossy compression scheme, meaning they don't exactly
replicated a stored or scanned object.  The inaccuracies preclude
replicating a living being.  Similarly, complex patterns cannot be
stored because their patterns would not survive the compression
without loss of integrity.

>Also , is it possible to generate another human being say another Picard
>by duplicating the signals of the transporter ? Just curious...

This can't be answered definitively from a technical standpoint.
Obviously it would kill the drama, so the transporter/replicator
technology is probably defined a priori as incapable of duplicating a
life form.
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: ds9 logo
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 28 Jan 93 13:52:06 EST

 -=> Psst...  Look what Preston F. Crow said to All!  Oh my god!!! <=-

 PFC> I'm looking for a copy of the DS9 logo.  I would like to print it on
 PFC> my video tape labels--I can use virtually any graphics format.

Michael Brown a.k.a. Vidiot has a postscript one, but I couldn't get it 
to print properly...  :-(  Here's his Usenet address:

From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)


Jason Wong (not Bernie)       Gotta go rebuild that darn igloo...
INTERNET: bernie.wong@canrem.com                FIDONET: 1:229/15


... 24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case, hmmm...
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From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: hate
Date: 22 Jan 1993 21:41:33 GMT
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Distribution: world
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In <gd.02kv@evil.Demon.Co.Uk> gd@evil.demon.co.uk writes:

> 
> I would just like to say that I hate all you americans.
> 
> You have all these new TNG's and DS9.
> 
> We in Britain have NOTHING since the seasons 1 to 3 on TNG and the constant
> re-runs of TOS.
> 
> I vomit westerly to the bastard nation.

  Yeah, but at least we know how to make a decent sandwich.  And send more
beer! :-)


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: dboese@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Darcy Boese)
Subject: Re: tridimensional chess
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:38:29 GMT

The Starfleet Technical Manual has a few pages on the tridimensional chess
game... you know, the black one which has a foreword along the lines of
"Through a freak subspace accident this document was received from the
future..."

It has diagrams of the board and pieces and shows how to initially place
the chess pieces, but doesn't have any of the rules defined for piece
movement.
From: ch134@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michelle Guydosh)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: DS9 question
Date: 27 Jan 1993 21:14:10 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


  I was just reading the Feb issue of Sassy after being informed of an
article about a Star Trek convention.  I thought it funny overall and worth
the embarrassment of being seen with the magazine to read the article.
  And now the question:
Towards the end of the article, they mention DS9 would have a casino and a
whorehyouse(minus the extra y).  Am I rthe only person to have missed seeing
this alledged whorehouse?

michelle
#
Oops, and before I end I would like to say I also think that Dr. Bashir(?) is 
annoyingly cute and Avery Brooks could use a little bit of help acting his
part.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: A.M.T.Bell@daresbury.ac.uk  (A.M.T. Bell)
Subject: Re: Young Kirk
Reply-To: atb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk
Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, UK
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:50:49 GMT

In article 1683@admiral.uucp, dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman) writes:
>In article <1993Jan25.165916.3442@gserv1.dl.ac.uk> atb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk writes:
>>Hello folks
>>
>>I was watching the current series of "The Wonder Years" (1992 series) and it
>>struck me how much Fred Savage looks like a young Capt. Kirk. If they ever
>>make the "Academy Days" film I suggest they get Fred to play James T.
>
>Keep watching those Wonder Years reruns. Eventually they'll show the
>one where Kevin fastasizes himself as Capt. Kirk, Paul as Spock, and
>Winnie as a strange alien woman...
>
>
>-- 
>"Dr. McCoy, would you do me the very great honor of eating my shorts?" -Spock
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>"Ray, when somebody asks you if you're a god, you say YES!" -- Winston Zeddmore


I've seen that Wonder Years show when Kevin is Kirk and Paul is Spock and they
are kidnapped by Winnie and friends, parody of "Spock's Brain". That was a few
seasons back though. Now that Kevin/Fred is 16 he looks a lot more like Young Kirk
than he did in the "Spock's Brain" parody. How about Josh Saviano (Paul Pfeiffer)
as "Young Spock"?

Isn't this fun :-)

tony bell                 ! keep on running   live long and prosper
serc daresbury laboratory ! I'm nowhere near 30, I'm 29!
atb@uk.ac.dl.gserv1       ! Maggie O'Connell, Northern Exposure.
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Brian Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: READ THIS! O'Brien's Rank!
Date: 28 Jan 93 20:27:37 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

Robert.T.Warfield@dartmouth.edu (Robert T. Warfield) writes:

>  I seem to remember an episode where Riker commanded Worf "AT EASE!".
>As for NCO's, the term "Don't call me sir, I work for a living" has
>been around in some form since before the revolutionary war. It makes
>sense that it would still be around in the time of star trek.

    Possibly, but that doesn't mean he would jump down the throat of
someonw who worked under him for being called "sir."

>  If you look at O'Brian's collar, you will see that he has one hollow
>pip. That is the rank of a junior ensign. Also, I belive transporter
>chief Kyle from the original series was a lieutenant.

    Ok, I'll say this one more time: There is no rank of "Ensign (jg)!"
Ensign is the lowest rnak that a commissioned officer can hold, and that
is one closed pip. Anything that could be considered "under" one closed
pip is a rank help by a non-commissioned officer.

-Hades
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From: vince.maiocco@satalink.com (Vince Maiocco)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: ST:Deep Space Nine, p
Date: 22 Jan 93 07:47:00 GMT
Reply-To: vince.maiocco@satalink.com (Vince Maiocco)
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434

SL>I've been told that there is an Ensign Dax episode
SL>coming up but have not heard what they're goin to do with it.

Nit police reporting for duty... Dax is a Lieutenant<G>.  It
even says so in the opening credits.
LLAP


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From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Subject: Re: MOST UNDERRATED EPISODE
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:35:33 GMT

In <1993Jan23.060140.9280@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu> msmallwo@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (M. Lee Smallwood) writes:
>What is the most underrated episode, though???

"Contagion".

-- 
Michael Rawdon				  rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department,  Madison, WI

"Childbirth is NOT a miracle.  Life is NOT sacred.  When you have twenty
 thousand nomads huddled between two rivers in the Middle East and that's it
 for Homo sapiens, when one in five children is a live birth, one in ten
 living past the age of ten, THEN childbirth IS a miracle and life IS sacred.
 When the average age of a grandmother in Philadelphia's housing projects is
 twenty-five, to call childbirth a miracle is at least a tasteless joke and at
 worst a true obscenity."
				- Dave Sim, from Cerebus #142
From: 00bwanderson@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: STVI and O'Brien and DS9
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:27:52 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

In article <1993Jan17.032747.3004@nevada.edu>, takashi@nevada.edu (Edward T. Tonai) writes:
> 
> Ok, in Star Trek VI...(watched it on HBO this morning)
> 
> Isn't that Colonel Wolf played by Rene Auberjonois?
> If so, I have a theory on how Colonel Wolf eventually became Odo...
> involving being launched in a torpedo tube and his mustache falling out
> and the torpedo finding its way to near Bejor and entering the wormhole
> etc...(Colonel Wolf was shown when various admirals were talking to the
> Federation President about attacking Klingons, and was disguised as a
> Klingon when he almost shot the Fed. Prez).  This would explain why Odo
> disliked the Duras sisters sooo much in the recent DS9 episode!!!
> Yeah!  A flickering memory of his former life!!!

You don't mean Colonel WORF, do you?  That was Michael Dorn.  Colonle WEST was
Rene Auberjoinois.  Only problem with yonder theory: Odo sez he cannot do noses
very well.

Sorry...next?

> 
> And did anybody notice if in the premiere of DS9 Dax (90 year old man Dax)
> had really big feet?  Remember Crewman Dax from STVI?  "If the shoe fits..."
> with Chekov dropping the magnetic boots to the floor near Crewman Dax's feet?
> I have a theory of how a lowly Crewman eventually became a Lieutenant in
> Star Fleet after years of service and one change in outer form...
> 

Pah!  Pay attention!  Dax is a symbiont-his kind can only exsist with a TRILL
host.  That...whatever it was in STVI was *NOT* Trill.

Again...sorry.  Next?


> And as for O'Brien's rank (too many 's)...
> Surprize!  I have a theory about that!
> The powers that be of Star Trek just decided to quietly
> demote O'Brien.  Somebody decided that O'Brien shouldn't be a lieutenant.
> He used to wear lieutenants gold circles, as in that
> mentioned episode with Ro, O'Brien, and Troi on the bridge alone.  Now
> (and for a few episodes) we wears one hollow circle.  Just one of those things
> that they do and will either pretend he was always that way or make up some
> excuse to explain it.  I think it's really funny when netters try to make
> excuses to explain things that go wrong..although some of them are quite
> credible...

*BZZT*
In the last episode (the one where Odo is accused of killing his old "enemy"),
Keiko and Miles are talking about his PROMOTION.  That doth mean he has moved
up in the world, not down.  It's possible he has become a commissioned
officer-Lt. JG now.  Or ensign.  That would explain the single, hollow pip.
> 
> 
> Edward T. Tonai
> takashi@redrock.nevada.edu
> 
> I have a theory on why I don't yet have a .sig.....


Ummm...it's probably wrong...;)

Bruce
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.sig?  We don' need no steenkin' .sig!

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Don't look at me in that tone of voice!  BSU disclaims me, and I disclaim them.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: yamamoto@.etdesg.trw.com (Blane K. Yamamoto)
Subject: Re: Where is Starfleet Academy Really??????????????
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 00:33:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.162706.16313@ericsson.se> etllnfr@eddie.ericsson.se (Lyndon Fletcher) writes:
>
>A friend of mine is running a "Starfleet Academy" Roleplaying game
>he's developed. Set at the time of TNG it has proved to be lots of fun.
>Recently he saw "The First Duty" and we where wondering if anyone could
>identify the park area used for Boothbys gardens.
> [stuff deleted]
>
>Fletch
>

Fletch,
Believe it or not, the gardens used for those scenes are part of a water
reclamation plant located in Los Angeles (San Fernando Valley to be
specific).  I'll get an address and you can contact them regarding a 
map and other info.

Blane

Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: skoester@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Scott A Koester)
Subject: ST VII and Kirk
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:40:47 GMT



    I think the one of the best (and coolest) things in my opinion they could 
do with ST VII (if it is indeed going to happen) would be to see Kirk die.  I'm
not saying this because I hate Kirk, as a matter of fact I think Kirk is simply
the best there is.  But, in ST V at the beginning right after he almost dies 
after falling off the mountain he was climbing and they were all sitting around
the fire talking about it, if you remember he says "I always knew I was going 
to die alone."  This is why he did not think he would die falling off the 
mountain.
    Also, in TNG we have seen 'Admiral' McCoy and we have seen Spock, but no 
Kirk.  So it is obvious to me that Kirk died somewhere between here and there. 
(Or at least *I* think so.)
    IMHO opinion I think this would make ST VII.  And I hope that they do 
indeed do it.



Scott Koester
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: HTEUTSC@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: Star Trek--The game!
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit MI  U.S.A.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:49:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.224353.1@vax1.umkc.edu>
dprebyl@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
 
>
>Hey everyone...
>
>We are currently in the middle of playing Star Trek 25th anniversity game
>and need some help from fellow Star Trek game players.
>
>Our problem is this:
>
>On the 5th mission (the alpha proxima III mission) we come to orbit around an
>asteroid.  When we beam down we come up to this massive door that needs
>to have a code (we think a number) punched in.  The only clue we have is that
>the inhabitants of the planets are superstitious.  We tried just about
>everything we could think of, yet the code still alludes us.  If you anyone
>could give us the code or a hint we would be very appreciative.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Dave
 
 
 
I won't tell you the answere, or it will spoil the fun. But here is a hint
-the code sequence is similiar to binary numbers but of a diferent kind.
Binary numbers have base 2, and are added accordingly.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: jhc819@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (chung jason ho yong)
Subject: Re: Actor from STVI
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 13:57:37 GMT

tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo) writes:

>This has been in question for some time on a BBS...
>In STVI:TUC, Leon Russom played Colonel West....there are those who swear to
>believe the Renee Auberjonais on DSN is the same guy.  Of course, I disagree 
>because of the obvious difference in name.  And Renee Auberjonais' name does
>not even appear in the credits of STVI:TUC...
>Which one was on Benson??? 
>--
>|Jeffrey S. Jo                   | 	         F-14D Tomcat                 |
>|Computer Operations		 |             VF-142 Ghostriders             |
>|University of Nebraska at Omaha |       United States Navy F-14 Tomcat       |
>|tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu         |              Fighter Squadron            

I've done no research but I'm certain that Renee Auberjonais is Colonel West 
from ST 6 and the security guy from DS9.  One reason why his name might not
be in the credits for ST 6 is because it was cut in the theatrical release.

Regardless, he'll never be Colonel West or that DS9 guy to me.  He'll always
be that whiny guy (Clayton?) from one of my favorite sitcom shows of the 70's
BENSON.

Later,
Jason
|
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From: dfoster@maths.tcd.ie (Duncan Foster)
Subject: Location of STTNG plot summaries?
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:03:33 GMT

Help, can anyone direct me to the site where the plot summaries of TNG are
kept. I thought it was ftp.cs.montana.edu, but I can't seem to get any
response.
I guess replies should be by email please.

Many thanks


-- 
  "When campaigning, be swift as the wind; in leisurely march, majestic as
  the forest; in raiding and plundering, like fire; in standing, firm as the
  mountains. As unfathomable as the clouds, move like a thunderbolt." 
   - Sun Tzu. "The Art of War"                 dfoster@maths.tcd.ie
From: skeeter@skatter.usask.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Gates *IS* in Hunt For Red October!
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:29:15 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
NNTP-Posting-Host: orion.usask.ca

From article <1993Jan21.201239.29992@ncar.ucar.edu>, by vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer):
> In article <1jl2bgINNssr@manuel.anu.edu.au> David.Berriman@anu.edu.au (Cyalodin) writes:
>>True she was in Hunt for Red October, but the scene was cut from
>>the final release.
> WRONG.  She is in it, very briefly, in the opening scene.  Very much
> in the background, has one line and leaves.  You'd miss her easily if
> you weren't looking for her, but SHE IS THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Her scene is right at the beginning and she only has one real line.
She speaks in a strong English accent.  Her line is something like
"...and only two glasses of water..." as the camera pans right
with her walking through a dark all-wood room. 

[WARNING: this is from memory!  Please do not adjust your tape.]

--
skeeter@skatter.usask.ca			no nifty .sig

For every problem there is a solution which is simple, obvious, and wrong"
                                        --Albert Einstein
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From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: r.a.startrek.* charters (was Hormones (uh, pardon me...))
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:10:31 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute

In article <lward.728073798@husc.harvard.edu> lward@husc11.harvard.edu (Lester Ward) the mose sensible question I have seen in a long time here:

>Just as a question:  What are each of the r.a.st.* groups explicitly for?

>What differentiates .misc from .current?  From the names it would seem like
>.current is for describing current news and the episodes of the last week
>or so.  Seems like Kira's measurements et. al. would be prime .misc
>candidates.  I don't particularly care one way or the other, but it'd be
>good information to have.

Good question.  Here are the charters for the unmoderated newsgroups
in the rec.arts.startrek.* hierarchy:

    rec.arts.startrek.tech
      Discussions of Star Trek's depiction of future technology,
      including warp drives, phasers, photon torpedoes, transporters,
      communicators, turbolifts, android technology, medical advances,
      Geordi's visor, violations of 20th century physical laws, etc.

    rec.arts.startrek.fandom
      Discussions of conventions, television stations airing Star Trek,
      news and policies from Paramount, and other fan-related issues.

    rec.arts.startrek.current
      Discussion of Star Trek television programs, movies and books
      aired or released for the first time within the past four months,
      information about future programs, movies and books, and
      speculation of same, if based on information still current (such
      as speculation of cliffhanger resolutions).

    rec.arts.startrek.misc
      General discussion of Star Trek; topics which are not appropriate
      for a more specific group in the rec.arts.startrek.* hierarchy.

There is no official rec.arts.startrek.creative; I believe that in the
United Kingdom the alt group alt.startrek.creative is aliased to
r.a.s.creative .

A recent posting in news.groups (message-id 
<1993Jan22.005303.4367@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>)
showed that 65% of articles posted in r.a.s.current should have been
posted elsewhere, most of those in rec.arts.startrek.misc .  If we
posted properly, we wouldn't have to worry about splitting the
newsgroup, and we could read and discuss Star Trek easily and
comfortably.

-- 
'Verily, there be no leader as wise as the Vision!'
                         Windsor Morgan (wmorgan@stsci.edu OR NHT@PSUVM.BITNET)
                         Space Telescope Science Institute
                         Baltimore, MD   21218
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: STVI and O'Brien and DS9
Organization: Lachman Technology, Incorporated, Naperville, IL
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:35:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.192227.15747@nevada.edu> takashi@nevada.edu (Edward T. Tonai) writes:
>In article <1993Jan25.152947.21447@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> johnnyp@HALDI.LCS.MIT.EDU (Johnny Piscitello) writes:
>>>
>>>Are you SURE Colonel Wolf isn't played by Rene Auberjonois?  If so, just
>>>who IS the actor who plays Colonel Wolf?
>>>
>>	Yes, he's sure. Michael Dorn played Colonel Worf.
...
>>	Well, you obviously couldn't see too well if you mistook Michael
>>Dorn for Rene Auberjonois!
>
>	Hey, pal, learn to read.  Do you have some kind of problem 
>differentiating l's from r's?  I said Colonel WOLF!!!!  WOLF with an L!
>Not Worf with an R!  Wolf!  Colonel Wolf!  Like Wolf-359!  Like the dog-like
>animal!  Like as in Lone Wolf and Cub!  Like as in Castle Wolfenstein!
>Like as in Wolfie, the fake name that the T-800 gave to the T-1000 for
>John Connor's dog!  WOLF!  Like the cub scout level under Bear!

Now, now, Edward.  Do you think we're going to listen to you
if you keep calling "wolf"?




(Yes, the difference was pretty obvious.)
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