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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 13:19:28 GMT


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From: Edward.Rice@p4214.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Edward Rice)
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Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: dim sum/ ramen
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 18:52:41 -0500

 SS> >I can also recommend Pho Hoa, in a shoppng center that's just east of
 SS> the
 SS> >big Seven Corners intersection.  It's on the road that goes into Seven
 SS> Corners
 SS> >from the east, that is /not/ Route 7 or Route 50.  It's a little place,
 SS> in a
 SS> >shopping center that's full of (mostly) Oriental specialty places.
 SS> 
 SS> Do you mean the Plaza Seven Shopping Center on Wilson Blvd and Roosevelt
 SS> Blvd (the road that heads towards the East Falls Church Metro)?

Yes.
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Saturday, 11 Apr 1992 23:18:07 EDT
From: RABBI CHARLES ARIAN <CARIAN@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Re: PASSOVER WINES
 <92100.025348CARIAN@auvm.american.edu> <92101.173002MCBRIDE@auvm.american.edu>

In article <92101.173002MCBRIDE@auvm.american.edu>, John D. L. McBride
<MCBRIDE@auvm.american.edu> says:
>
>Rabbi Arian:
>
>   Just a quick question about beer.  I was under the impression that
>KP beer was impossible since it is made by fermenting grains (at least
>a "proper" beer is...only malted barley  (in any case, wouldn't malting
>the barley make it chometz?)).  Is there something I'm missing?
>
John:
I'm not really knowledgable  about beer. I was more knowledgable when I
was an undergrad at Georgetown a long time ago.

All I know on this subject is that, there are rumors of a "Kosher for Passover
Beer" in Israel. If "proper" beer is only that made from barley then this
legendary beer would not be a proper beer because, fermented or not, barley is
a no-no on Passover. Perhaps it's made from a different type of grain which is
permitted, at least to Sephardic Jews. Or perhaps it doesn't exist at all and
is simply a Jewish Urban Legend.

If I get the opportunity I will do some more investigating and let you know
what I come up with.

The main reason this whole thread started is because someone posted that beer,
because it's liquid, was exempt from the Passover regulations. This is of
course simply inaccurate and I wanted to disabuse anyone of the notion that
they could drink beer during Passover and still be fulfilling the religious
requirements.

P.S. Beer or no beer, there are definitely a lot more KP liquors available
than previously. Potomac Wines on M St. in Georgetown carries a nice
selection thereof.
From: Edward.Rice@p4214.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Edward Rice)
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From: anderson@sapir.cog.jhu.edu (Steve Anderson)
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Re: Baltimore Inquiry
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:38:12 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Cognitive Science, The Johns Hopkins University
In-reply-to: perez@beno.CSS.GOV's message of 10 Apr 92 15:50:25 GMT

>>>>> On 10 Apr 92 15:50:25 GMT, perez@beno.CSS.GOV (Ricardo L. Perez)
	RLP> said:

	RLP> My wife and I are planning to go to an Orioles game one
	RLP> weekend, and we'd like to tour "Little Italy".  We're
	RLP> unfamiliar with the restaurants.  Do any of you have any
	RLP> recommendations?  My wife's Italian and has to have
	RLP> gooood Italian food. But, then again, I'm a Filipino, and
	RLP> I like goooood Italian food, too.

If you want goooood _Italian_ food, don't (repeat: don't) go to little
Italy. In fact, don't come to Baltimore, though my Italian colleagues
tell me that Troja's (28 Alleghany Ave., Towson; not fancy, not
expensive, nowhere near Oriole Park at Camden Yards) is good (two
o's).

On the other hand, if you're in the modd for Italo-American food, you
would do worse (in fact, in Little Italy, a LOT worse) than Caesar's
Den (223 S. High St.).

--Steve Anderson
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From: weisen@daedalus.dcrt.nih.gov (Neil Weisenfeld)
Subject: Re: wanted: source for basmati rice
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda MD
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:07:08 GMT

In article <m14430.702267407@mwunix> m14430@mwunix.mitre.org (Lawrence Larson) writes:

   Sorry for the off-subject post, but this group seemed to make more sense
   for a local area inquiry than rec.food. Does anyone know of a DC-area source
   for basmati rice in units of two pounds or larger? The 8-oz. boxes in
   supermarkets are getting awfully expensive, and we like basmati a lot.
   Thanks for any email responses...

   --
   Larry


I seem to remember them selling large bags of it at the Indian
market on Thayer Ave. in Silver Spring.  I'm not sure of the name,
maybe ``Muskovan'' or something like that.  It's a half block down and
across the street from the Safeway.

--Neil



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From: Diane.Mayronne@p1.f349.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Diane Mayronne)
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Subject: wanted: source for basmati rice
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:14:00 -0500

>>Does anyone know of a DC-area source for basmati rice in units of two pounds
>>or larger? The 8-oz. boxes in supermarkets are getting awfully expensive, and
>> we like basmati a lot.

I MUST warn you.  I, too, ventured into the world of bulk Basmati rice ( the
only kind I ever want to eat!!!!).  But the bag I got from the healthfood store
produced more worms than rice.  I complained to the manager, but her response
was, "Why would you want to eat it, if worms don't want it?" From then on I
bought the expensive 8-oz.-but-safe-from- worms variety!

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From: yumei@wam.umd.edu (yumei)
Subject: Re: DIM SUM/ RAMEN
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:14:55 GMT

     The Silver Palace in Silver Spring is a decent place for dim m.  It 
is near the White Oak Shopping Center (Sears etc) off of New Hampshire Ave.

     Another great place for dim sum is the Grand Palace in Glen Burnie,
off of Rt.2 (I-695, exit 3, take Rt. 2 South, a few miles on the right.)
If you go there over the weekend, you will find that 95% of the customers
are Chinese, which, for me, is a good indication that you will find more
authentic dim sum there.


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From: Joe.Chelena@f421.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Chelena)
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Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Re: PASSOVER WINES
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1992 11:39:06 -0500

Thanks for your long BUT VERY VERY informative reply.  
   
As one who lives to eat vs one who eats to live I who have trouble with Kosher. 
No knock on those who follow the rules.  Hell, (and that's where I'm going, just
ask the dear nuns) I had big time problems with not eating meat on Friday when I
was young.  Oh whell, religion and politics............


From: Edward.Rice@p4214.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Edward Rice)
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Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Re: PASSOVER WINES
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 19:18:32 -0500

 JC> Rabbi, if I may ask a question about Kosher.  I have noticed in years past
 JC> that Giant sells "Kosher Coca-Cola".  Forgive my ignorance, but what makes
 JC> Coke Kosher/Non-Kosher?  I thought Kosher had to do with not mixing
 JC> milk/cheese with meat and also how an animal was slaughtered.    

Oh -- also -- the kashruth laws apply also to what may and may not be eaten,
not just method of slaughter and preparation.  Shellfish are out, pork is
out, fish without scales is out (no kosher shark-fin soup!).  A few kinds of
insects are okay, most are not.  Carnivorous birds are out, and only a few
kinds of large animals are specifically okay.  And the laws also apply to
things like housecleaning.  It's a /very/ interesting topic (and not really
appropriate to this echo), but you can find out where a LOT of modern food
beliefs of western civilization come from, by skimming a couple of books from
the Bible.
From: lito@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Angelito Lucena)
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: dim sum/ ramen
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:10:12 GMT
Reply-To: lito@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Angelito Lucena)
Distribution: dc
Organization: David Taylor Research Center, Carderock

hi,

i'm looking for suggestions of some good dim sum places
in the area.  i grew up eating in the philly chinatown
area and miss the large variety/concentration of good dim
sum places.

also, are there any ramen shops (a la tampopo) around here??
i've been to a few on my last sojourn to the bay area.
i'm open to any suggestions in the dc,md or northern va
(i'd prefer not to deal with the parking hassle inside the
district)

thanks in advance,
and email directly to:
lito lucena
lito@oasys.dt.navy.mil
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From: Joe.Chelena@f421.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Chelena)
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Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Re: DIM SUM/ RAMEN
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 11:18:52 -0500

 > i'm looking for suggestions of some good dim sum places
 > in the area.  i grew up eating in the philly chinatown
 > area and miss the large variety/concentration of good dim
 > sum places.
 >                                                             

 Since I have worked at the edge of China Town since 1977 I have eaten at just
about every restaurant there many many many times.  The best that I have found
for din sum is Big Wong. Large variety, things like stuffed duckfeet and chicken
feet are on the menu besides the more common "American" ones.  You have to order
from the menu and not from a cart as in some restaurants.  I don't like the
carts because it always seems to me that what I want is either gone by the time
it gets to me or it is cold as ice.  Big Wong is sort of a whole in the wall but
it Hong Kong style of food is very good.  There is also a branch in 7 Corners
Va.  Never been to that one because I can't get past the Vietnamese restaurants
in the area.
From: hunter@work.nlm.nih.gov (Larry Hunter)
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Charcoal source...
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:43:52 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: National Library of Medicine


I tried asking this on dc.general with no luck.  It really is a dining
question, if not a restaurant one.

I am a dedicated BBQ'er, and I need a source of reasonably priced
hardwood charcoal in the DC area.  Last fall, I had a chance to buy a
pallet of "Connecticut Old-Fashioned Hardwood Charcoal" which was a
great deal, but I'm running low.  I've seen this brand at Hechinger's
at $5 for 10 lbs (and at Fresh Fields for $7!) but I go through too
much of it to pay those kind of prices.  I would be willing to buy a
100 lbs or more if that made a difference.  I live in Montgomery Co.,
near the DC line, but I have a truck and would be willing to drive a
ways for the right deal...

Any suggestions?

		Larry
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From: bourque@remarque.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Re: wanted: source for basmati rice
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:31:33 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu

In Arlington near Ballston there is a store named
"Indian Spices and Appliances" (I kid you not!) which no doubt carries basmati
rice.  The store's aroma is worth a visit by itself.

- Ken Bourque
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Thursday, 9 Apr 1992 23:07:18 EDT
From: RABBI CHARLES ARIAN <CARIAN@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Re: PASSOVER WINES

In article <702849614.F00001@blkcat.UUCP>, Joe.Chelena@f421.n109.z1.fidonet.org
(Joe Chelena) says:
>
>Thanks for your long BUT VERY VERY informative reply.
>
>As one who lives to eat vs one who eats to live I who have trouble with
>Kosher.
>No knock on those who follow the rules.  Hell, (and that's where I'm going,   t
>jus
>ask the dear nuns) I had big time problems with not eating meat on Friday whenI
>was young.  Oh whell, religion and politics............

This is *really* straying from the subject of dc.dining, but . . .
If you are not Jewish, Judaism does not believe you are obligated to
keep Kosher. The ritual rules only apply to Jews; the laws about being a
righteous and moral person apply to all.

The nuns may or may not be right about you going to Hell. But if that's
where you wind up it won't be because you didn't keep kosher. :-)
From: ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder)
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Re: Thai restaurants - MD?
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:59:00 GMT
Organization: U.S. Geological Survey, Reston VA

In article <702921619.F00005@blkcat.UUCP> Edward.Rice@p4214.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Edward Rice) writes:
>
> SS> Anyway, you should try the Sarinah Satay House for good Indonesian food.
> SS> It's on Wisconsin Ave near O St. in G'town.
>
>What's the parking situation?  I could always try that, and hit Pines of Rome
>if there's no parking in DC that evening.

The parking is typical "Georgetown," ie. good luck. Though, I've never
had trouble parking in G'town, even on a weekend night. Just go several
blocks away from M St and Wisconsin Av and you usually can find a space.
Though, I've also have parked in Rosslyn and walked over Key Bridge. I
actually find it harder to park around Adams Morgan than G'town.

-Steve-
From: pete@mimsy.umd.edu (Pete Cottrell)
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Re: dim sum/ ramen
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:18:39 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <WARSAW.92Apr7140745@anthem.nlm.nih.gov> warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw) writes:
=
=In addition to Tung Bor (I find CC better), there's also a place in
=White Oak, across from the shopping center (northeast? corner of New
=Hampshire and Lockwood).  I can't remember the name...

I think you mean Silver Palace.

=There's also a place in College Park (Rt. 1) that serves dim sum/sushi
=brunches.  Maybe some of you UM'ers know the name.  Great idea, but it
=was pretty disgusting the one time I went.

Seven Seas.
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From: burgoyne@highlite.uucp (J. Robert Burgoyne)
Subject: Re: dim sum/ ramen
Organization: Gotham Communications Research, Laurel, MD
Distribution: dc
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 13:15:59 GMT

For Dim Sum, try the Orient East in Silver Spring. It's near the metro just
off East West Highway in a shopping center east of Route 29. Chinese people
kind of crowd the place, so go early for best results.

Robert
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From: burgoyne@highlite.uucp (J. Robert Burgoyne)
Subject: Re: dim sum/ ramen
Organization: Gotham Communications Research, Laurel, MD
Distribution: dc
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1992 13:48:10 GMT

In article <WARSAW.92Apr7140745@anthem.nlm.nih.gov> warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw) writes:
>
>In addition to Tung Bor (I find CC better), there's also a place in
>White Oak, across from the shopping center (northeast? corner of New
>Hampshire and Lockwood).  I can't remember the name, but I've been
>there a few times.  Not as good as CC, but it makes a nice occasional
>change of pace.

It's called the Silver Palace. I prefer Orient East in Silver Spring, and my
family used to eat at Silver Palace all the time.

Robert

From: Edward.Rice@p4214.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Edward Rice)
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Subject: dim sum/ ramen
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 19:20:35 -0500

 DH> Haven't really tried (or seen) any noodle joints around this area.
 DH> You might try a Pho (Vietnamese beef-noodle soup) restaurant; I prefer
 DH> one in Northern VA whose name I've forgotten just now, but the two in
 DH> Langley Park on 193, Pho 75 and Pho something else, are passable.

I can also recommend Pho Hoa, in a shoppng center that's just east of the
big Seven Corners intersection.  It's on the road that goes into Seven Corners
from the east, that is /not/ Route 7 or Route 50.  It's a little place, in a
shopping center that's full of (mostly) Oriental specialty places.
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Tuesday, 7 Apr 1992 18:05:19 EDT
From: Richard B. Edelman <RICHARD@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Re: wanted: source for basmati rice

It's usually in the bins at the Bethesda Co-op on MacArthur Boulevard
in Cabin John.

Richard
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Thursday, 9 Apr 1992 02:53:48 EDT
From: RABBI CHARLES ARIAN <CARIAN@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Re: PASSOVER WINES

2
In article <702792058.F00004@blkcat.UUCP>,
Edward.Rice@p4214.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Edward Rice) says:
>
> JC> Rabbi, if I may ask a question about Kosher.  I have noticed in years
>past
> JC> that Giant sells "Kosher Coca-Cola".  Forgive my ignorance, but what
>makes
> JC> Coke Kosher/Non-Kosher?  I thought Kosher had to do with not mixing
> JC> milk/cheese with meat and also how an animal was slaughtered.
>
>Joe, I see you haven't gotten a reply yet, and I think I can offer a fairly
>accurate answer on this one...
>
Actually, there *had* been a correct answer so I didn't reply. As you correctly
state it has to do with the corn sweetener.

Actually, corn and corn products are not considered "chametz", which I won't
attempt to translate but merely state means products which Jews are forbidden
to eat or even own during Passover. Corn was prohibited to Ashkenazi (European
and their descendants) Jews by rabbinical decree to avoid confusion between
permitted and forbidden types of flour.

>Risen products are forbidden during Passover (yeast or salted bread, for
>example).  Because liquids were perceived to be quite distinct from dough when
>all this was getting set up, wine is exempt -- I imagine beer is also, but am
>not sure.  With me so far?
>
This is inaccurate, I am afraid to say. As I wrote above Jews are not even
permitted to *own*, let alone consume, chametz (leavened or leaven-able
products) during Passover. Wine, to be consumed during Passover, must be
certified Kosher for Passover. Beer the same. To my knowledge, there is
*NO* Kosher for Passover beer available anywhere in the United States.

rest deleted . . .

BTW, the net is not the best place to get reliable information about Jewish
religious law and practice. If you are Jewish and have a question, consult
your rabbi.
From: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Re: dim sum/ ramen
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:07:44 GMT
Reply-To: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Distribution: dc
Organization: Century Computing, Inc.


I'll second China Chef for dim sum.  But get there early on the
weekends because they get pretty crowded...

In addition to Tung Bor (I find CC better), there's also a place in
White Oak, across from the shopping center (northeast? corner of New
Hampshire and Lockwood).  I can't remember the name, but I've been
there a few times.  Not as good as CC, but it makes a nice occasional
change of pace.

There's also a place in College Park (Rt. 1) that serves dim sum/sushi
brunches.  Maybe some of you UM'ers know the name.  Great idea, but it
was pretty disgusting the one time I went.

-Barry
From: Edward.Rice@p4214.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Edward Rice)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: PASSOVER WINES
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 18:48:15 -0500

 RC> >Risen products are forbidden during Passover (yeast or salted bread, for
 RC> >example).  Because liquids were perceived to be quite distinct from dough
 RC> when
 RC> >all this was getting set up, wine is exempt -- I imagine beer is also,
 RC> but am
 RC> >not sure.  With me so far?
 RC> >
 RC> This is inaccurate, I am afraid to say. As I wrote above Jews are not
 RC> even
 RC> permitted to *own*, let alone consume, chametz (leavened or leaven-able
 RC> products) during Passover. Wine, to be consumed during Passover, must be
 RC> certified Kosher for Passover. Beer the same. To my knowledge, there is
 RC> *NO* Kosher for Passover beer available anywhere in the United States.

I'm afraid I don't understand the distinction you're drawing -- I said that wine
was exempt, and you indicate that a special certification is required, which
sounds to me like the same thing.  Wine is, obviously a fermented product.

Any idea on the reasoning behind certificated wine being acceptable, whereas
beer isn't?  Simply an historic distinction between fruit and grain??
From: jsw@umiacs.umd.edu (Jeff Webber)
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Re: PASSOVER WINES
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:36:40 GMT
Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742

In article <702662417.F00007@blkcat.UUCP> Joe.Chelena@f421.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Chelena) writes:

>Rabbi, if I may ask a question about Kosher.  I have noticed in years
>past that
>Giant sells "Kosher Coca-Cola".  Forgive my ignorance, but what makes Coke
>Kosher/Non-Kosher?  I thought Kosher had to do with not mixing milk/cheese
>with
>meat and also how an animal was slaughtered.    
> 
>Thank You for any reply.  

I may get corrected on this one, but, Passover Coke does not
contain High Fructose Corn Sweetener.   It uses what Coke used
to use to make it sweet, Sugar.   This is the main difference
between coke classic now and the coke before the mid 80's switch
thing.

The label is unchanged...but the contents should not have corn
syrup in it.

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From: Edward.Rice@p4214.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Edward Rice)
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Subject: Thai restaurants - MD?
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 20:03:55 -0500

 SS> >I enjoyed a lot the one time I was there.  I was in a group and we
 SS> ordered what
 SS> >was supposed to be a rijstaffel -- it was not a rijstaffel, but it was a
 SS> many-
 SS> >course dinner with some really delicious dishes.  Next time I go, I plan
 SS> on
 SS> >just
 SS> >ordering from the regular menu, and finding out if they're always that
 SS> good.
 SS> 
 SS> I thought a rijstaffel was supposed to be a meal with a variety of
 SS> different dishes.

A real rijstaffel (and I've enjoyed several, in Holland!) has several "base"
dishes, and many-many-many little containers of seasonings, condiments and
mix-ins all over the table.  A "major" rijstaffel is supposed to have no fewer
than 100 items, including the "big" things (which might be, for example,
a chicken curry or a dish of mixed vegetables) and the "little" things (which
are more along the lines of toasted coconut gratings, spicy sauces, and herbs).

What Sabang served us, which was DELICIOUS, was an 8-course dinner of varied
Indonesian dishes.  Not the same thing at all.


 SS> Anyway, you should try the Sarinah Satay House for good Indonesian food.
 SS> It's on Wisconsin Ave near O St. in G'town.

What's the parking situation?  I could always try that, and hit Pines of Rome
if there's no parking in DC that evening.