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From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: How to "leave out" the trashcan
Date: 14 Oct 92 08:28:07 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <70491@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gt2038a@prism.gatech.EDU (gt2038a gt2038a BROWNING,CHRIS SHERMAN) writes:
> Have you ever tried to leave out the trashcan under 2.04 so that it would
> be accessible for whatever you are doing?  Unfortuately, it doesn't work.

It isn't possible. The trashcan is just a normal drawer (subdirectory)
where you can drag (move) other icons in, just like when you move (*not*
copy!!!) an icon from one place on a volume to another place. And this is
the point: The trashcan can only work on its very own volume, not on
others. And thus it is forbidden to leave it out.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: chetc@resumix.portal.com (Chester L. Cuaresma)
Subject: AmigaDOS commands at an ftp site?
Organization: Resumix Inc.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 02:50:38 GMT

Subject says it all.  The Amiga manuals that came with my recently
bought A1000 doesn't say jack about cli commands.  Did somebody
compile a list of commands and what they do in a file and post it
at an ftp site?

Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.

					Chet C.
					chetc@resumix.portal.com


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: 22black@sol.cs.wmich.edu (The Bewildered One)
Subject: Re: Avoid the Amiga 4000
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:51:41 GMT

raist@rmece02.upr.clu.edu (Ricardo Hernandez | 802-36-4453) writes:
>|> 
>|> >The "Promotion" feature of the OS only works for a tiny few, well-written 
>|> >Amiga programs, and no games.  
>|> 
>|> Actually, it works for quite a bit of stuff.  Of course, never having owned
>|> such a machine or any recent software, you won't know anything about this.  It

Well there is a program that will force almost all screens to be opened into
DBl*.

>|> 8-bit palette if you have one, and it works fine in Moniterm (1024x800) or 
>|> SUPER72 overscanned (890x620) resolutions.

Wait a minute dave.  What is with this Moniterm (1024x800).  This display mode
was not discussed before.  Is this a new color interlaced display?  Or
is it a gray scale display.

Martin


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: schwager@cs.uiuc.edu (Mike Schwager)
Subject: Re: Latest FISH DISKS are on ux1!
Keywords: fish disks
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:15:03 GMT

schwager@mike.cs.uiuc.edu (Mike Schwager) writes:

>Hi there!  The latest fishdisks are being uploaded to ux1 even as we speak.
>Here is a listing of the contents of these disks:

Gack.  My software did nutty things.  It was supposed to print another
message, specifically, that you can find all the Contents files your little
heart desires in the fishdoc directory of ux1, and they are also posted by
Fred hisself before the disks are sent out.  So I'm not sending Contents
files to the newsgroup anymore.
-Mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: kdarling@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Kevin Darling)
Subject: Re: Is Black bad in Europe ?
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 09:28:14 GMT

>I think you'll find that the reason that CDTV didn't 'take off' in Europe
>as expected is two-fold.  First, [a little slower to adopt new technology.]
>Second, in case you hadn't noticed, the majority of Europe is financially
>scr*wed!!! [...]  CDTV, IMHO, does NOT offer enough advantages over other
>formats for people to rush out and buy it (at the moment!)

Yah, it's currently very tough here in the States as well.  But the
weird thing is that CD-I seems to be selling extremely well in the UK
(and also in Portugal!).  The September ERT issue reported that demand
for CD-I reached Philips' first year UK sales goal in only six months.
The number of outlets is being doubled (to ~900) and production increased.

Unlike much more upscale first buyers of CD audio, UK CD-I customers
turned out to be more like current UK satellite TV buyers:  40% of the
CD-I owners surveyed last summer made less than 17,000 pounds per year.

Chipset advances recently allowed the retail price for a CD-I player to drop
by 100 pounds (to 499).  People who bought at the previous price will get
a choice of 70 pounds of free software, or a free MPEG full motion adapter.
When the adapter arrives late this year, FMV titles should be available
along with a couple of interactive movies and at least one feature film.

Philips' CD-I players are in a black case, btw.

regards - kevin <kdarling@catt.ncsu.edu> <76703.4227@compuserve.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: matija@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Matija Milostnik)
Subject: Writing my own shell Was: NEW AMIGA OS NEEDS PM, VM, AND JOB CONTROL
Summary: Dont mess up with the 
Keywords: shell, 
Organization: Informatik Club d. Universitaet, Zuerich
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 09:34:08 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.042722.5167@sol.cs.wmich.edu> 22black@sol.cs.wmich.edu (The Bewildered One) writes:
>[..]  Myself i am going to wait 
>awhile and start working on a unix protected shell that will have file 
>protection on all files and be defined as the drwerwerwe in any combo, then
>i will of course add 's' to the protection.  Of course i will only do this
>by using the file comments and hope that the comments are too vital for 
>anyone since it will write on it.

It has beeen stated many times that the comment field is not
a place to mess up by programs. The comment file is meant to 
be used by the USER, not the programmer.
The protection flags are also reserved by Commodore, so you have
to think another scheme for this.

Bye
 Matija
-- 
Best regards from Matija Milostinik           : matija@avalon.ifi.unizh.ch  
                                              : matija@amiga.physik.unizh.ch
Therefore, use local labels in the procedures as often as possible. 
Save the environment!  Recycle!  ;-)                 (Bjoern Reese)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: mdoerner@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike R Doerner)
Subject: NExT .snd sound files
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:58:53 GMT

I would like to know if there is a utility that converts NExT .snd files to
amiga 8svx format or outright plays NExt .snd files. I would like something
along the lines of OPUS found on the Fred Fish disks, but I might consider
commercial programs as well...  Thanks!

-- 
Mike Doerner | doerner.1@osu.edu | mdoerner@magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu
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From: thly@pe.chalmers.se (Thomas Lydhig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: oSnap Bug!
Date: 12 Oct 92 09:17:22 GMT

I have started to use oSnap v3.14 and I like it very much. The best thing
with it is the way it uses clipboard: It remembers all "Snaps" I have done
and I can (if I want) get a requester there I can choose text to paste.
BUT! There are no way for the program to make use of disks. It should do but
it don't. What ever I do oSnap will not save or load data to/from from my hard
disk! Every solution of this problem is welcome!


	/ Thomas Lydhig, Sweden		Email: thly@pe.chalmers.se
From: marks@castle.ed.ac.uk (Mark Steyn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Looking for Lha for Unix
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:04:40 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Edinburgh University

The subject says it all really.  I've tried searching it out with archie,
but to no avail.  If you know of any archiver which can handle lh5
compression let me know.

	Mark

Sigh - I had a sig until they deleted my account.  Time to look throught
the manuals for set-append methinks :-(
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: mascot@bnr.ca (Scott Mason)
Subject: Re: which 8520 controls the serial port? [a1000]
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:47:14 GMT

In article <35695@cbmvax.commodore.com> grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins) writes:
>In article <1992Oct8.224702.432@oz.plymouth.edu> g_simkin@oz.plymouth.edu (Gregory D. Simkins) writes:
>> In article <1992Oct7.214322.18164@javelin.sim.es.com> tpehrson@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>> >i decided to get my a1000 dusted off and fired up again.  i deduced an 8520
>> >was bad and ordered a new one.  rather than applying trial and error, i was
>> >wondering if some kindred soul could direct me to the 8520 that controls the
>> >serial port--a little internal geography lesson.
>> >
>> >
>> According to the schematics it should be u301.
>> but I've found many errors in the past so double check first.
>> 
>
>U301 doesn't sound like an A1000 component designator to me.  The simple
>way to find it is to spot the one right next to the parllel port - then
>the serial control lines are on the other one.  This works for just about
>any of the Amiga's with socketed parts.
>
>If you think it's an 8520, swap the two of them and see if the symptoms
>change. If it's really the serial port, chance are pretty good it's one
>of either the 1488 or 1489 RS232 transceivers that is blown.

I show the 8520 CIA as U6N.

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From: ccsw@bristol.ac.uk (EthaStorm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: "Family Values"...& vulgar programs!
Date: 9 Oct 92 08:05:00 GMT
Organization: University of Bristol, England

In article <RggBsB4w165w@lakes.trenton.sc.us> rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Rockerboy) writes:
>You're missing the point.  Demos have as much purpose as art does.  
>That's what they are:  multimedia art.  Programming _as_ an art, shall we 
>say.  That's why you will see such persistance in the best ones:  you're 
>dealing not so much with someone who is making a living, but someone who 
>is expressing himself with his code.


Hiho.

   Fully agree with you there. A while back, someone said something along the 
lines of "Why write demos, why not write a demo which has a purpose (game/
utility)?". That's like saying "Why have trees, when we can have rocks?".
Demos ARE demos... simple as that. They don't have games in them, because then
they would be GAMES not demos!!! Simple, really!!

   EthaStorm   *8)

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From: Hans_Bergengren@p1.thulos.bbs.bad.se (Hans Bergengren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Need advice on accelerator (030/xx or 000/14).
Date: 13 Oct 92 12:28:34 GMT
Reply-To: Hans_Bergengren@p1.thulos.bbs.bad.se (Hans Bergengren)
Organization: THULOS!, STROMSTAD, SWEDEN
OD-Comment-To: Stefan_Berg


 SB> Since I have my Supra modem, my usenet node has become more and more
 SB> busy, slowing down quite a bit sometimes
     < SNIP! >
 SB> Option 1: AdSpeed
 SB> It only costs about $170 and gives me 2x speed.
     < ... >
 SB> Will this enable me to run my Supra at full
 SB> speed without a big degradation in Computer speed?

The answer must be 'yes'. I've used an AdSpeed in my A500 for a long time now,
and I think it's great. I have been running my USR Sportster v32" modem at
baudrates up to 57600 bps on the serial port without any problems at all
(except while fooling around, like running SCSISpeed with 256k buffers during
downloads, etc), this was with the much improved BaudBandit.device version
1.4, which replaces the slow serial.device. CPU load on a 2400bps-connect with
v42/v42bis and downloading gives no noticeable slowdown on the system at all,
and a 14400 connect with v42/v42bis gives you about 1/2-1/3 of CPU time left
during file transfers. This was measured with the 'Perfmon' utility on Extras
1.3, so it may not be very accurate...
The system was my own A500 w/ 2 meg chip/fast, HD and a fair amount of
commodities and utilities running in the background.

 SB> I also heard there are some problems with KS2.04?

You're right about that. It seems like either CBM or ICD fouled something up,
the machine will show a yellow screen with flashing LED during power-up if you
hardwire the AdSpeed to boot in 14MHz (either with a switch or with the
included jumper pad). Someone said that ICD had said that KS2.0 didn't like
caches with a 68000, but this sounds like pure bull to me, I'd guess that
KS2.0 is not to blame for the boot problem. However, it is a simple problem,
you just have to invoke the 'AdSpeed' program during startup to switch over to
14 MHz. Otherwize, there are no problems.

 SB> Any ideas, comments, flames, money, accelerators, etc... welcome,
 SB> Stefan

Just tell me how to UU-encode some money then... :) No, to be honest, I would
not buy an AdSpeed, I'd rather buy the Blizzard accelerator if I was looking
for a 68000 accelerator, otherwize I'd opt for the PPS A500-040, which gives
most bang for my bucks. I've been told that it's memory is fairly slow (80ns),
but I can't seem to get that rumour confirmed, and also no-one seem to know if
the ZIPs can be upgraded for greater speed. Anybody who knows?


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--- Point Manager 3.00 Beta Unreg.
From: Hans_Bergengren@p1.thulos.bbs.bad.se (Hans Bergengren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: How to make horizontals docks w/ TM 2.0
Date: 10 Oct 92 09:49:30 GMT
Reply-To: Hans_Bergengren@p1.thulos.bbs.bad.se (Hans Bergengren)
Organization: THULOS!, STROMSTAD, SWEDEN
OD-Comment-To: Ian_Moran


 IM> : With ToolManager 2.0, how do I make a dock lay horizontally?  Or is it
 IM> : possible?
 IM> Easy, turn your monitor on its side :-)

  :D

 IM> Sorry couldn't resist that. I too am using TM2 and would be interested
 IM> in any sensible replies to this.

If I'm not totally wrong, I think that you just have to UNSET the 'vertical'
flag in the dock editor window in order to make a horizontal. Just a moment
while I check it out myself... Nope, no luck. But I found out a less elegant
way: set the number of columns in the dock to some number that makes the dock
horizontal, .ex i you have 8 icons in the dock, set columns to 4.

 IM> Also I notice some programs eg
 IM> Aquery, April (point package) which use a user selected editor as part
 IM> of their operation, fail to open this editor when started from TM2

Only in this situation? You can set paths in TMs prefs program for each
program entry, I suggest you mess around with this. Also, you should check out
in your point package that you have the FULL path to your editor (ie: c:Editor
instead of c/editor, f.ex).

Here I have a query myself: after designing several animbrushes or using with
TM2.0 (with lots of hassle regarding the colours, DPIV uses 1.3-style colour,
white becomes black (and black becomes white) when I loaded my brushes into
TM2.0...).
The problem is that TM2.0 just displays the second image in the anim, and then
stops the playback, instead of running the whole anim. And I just CAN'T figure
out why! Any suggestions?
The animbrush is standard 2.0 size (like the 'template' in the icon editor),
and 16 frames long in eight colours.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: raist@rmece02.upr.clu.edu (Ricardo Hernandez | 802-36-4453)
Subject: Re: CONGRATULATIONS! CBM!
Organization: UPR-Mayaguez--ASEL Lab
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 13:11:04 GMT

In article <harris.719025593@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu>, harris@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Michael Harris) writes:
|> raist@rmece02.upr.clu.edu (Ricardo Hernandez | 802-36-4453) writes:
|> >   GREAT!  I got a question from 'English point of view' as it is not my
|> >first language:  "The MPC Version of Multimadia May Cost More Than Ours.
|> >But It's..." - I don't understand why the "..May Cost More Than Ours.." is
|> >supposed to be a good phrase to use.  Why not, "And also, it will cost you
|> >much less" or something.  
|> ^^^^^^^^^^^
|> >
|> >   Must be my English.  If anyone can explain, thanks.
|> 
|> I think you mean "And also, it will cost you much more".  This would be
|> technically accurate. 
|> 
|> Most English speaking people are familiar with the following sentence form:
|> 
|> FORM:    Something has a disadvantage, but it has a greater advantage.
|> EXAMPLE: "The MPC Version of Multimedia is expensive, but it has more features
|>           than ..."
|> 
|> The idea is that the advantages overcome the disadvantages.
|> 
|> Commodore used sarcasm to twist this form into:
|> 
|> FORM:    Something has a disadvantage, and has even more disadvantages.
|> EXAMPLE: "The MPC Version of Multimedia is expensive, and it requires more
|>           hardware..."                                
|> 
|> And then they replaced "is expensive" with "cost more than our version".
|> 
|> The funny part is that the reader expects to see the first form because
|> of the word but in the original sentence.  When he sees that is really the
|> second form instead, he is confused.  He then needs to THINK about what the
|> sentence is saying.
|> 
|> This is where you got confused.  The sentence is gramatically correct...
|> it just is not in a form that you would expect.
|> 
|> When he figures it out, Commodore has accomplished its task: to get people
|> to read the information and THINK about it for a while.  If they can get you
|> to THINK about something for a while, you will probably remember it.
|> 
|> Does this help?
|> 

   Yes, thanks.  GRACIAS (thanks).
 
|>      Michael Harris - harris@catt.ncsu.edu or harris@carvm3.vnet.ibm.com
|>  System Administrator, Computer & Technologies Theme Program, NC State Univ.
|> (My opinions are my own and do not represent those of NCSU or IBM Corporation)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: kaarts@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Kenneth John Aarts)
Subject: Re: Any BlackHole users out there>
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 04:24:54 GMT

I tried Black Hole, but it crashed when deleting files on VD0: every time.  I
use deletetool instead.  It came with toolmanager 1.5.  The author stopped
supporting it in TM 2.0 in favour of black hole, but I can't figure out why.

Ken

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: jdickson@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Jeff Dickson)
Subject: Re: A4000 contest... help!
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:07:16 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.073705.1276@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> mjbrown@lonestar.utsa.edu (Marc J. Brown) writes:
>A while back, the complete list of rules for the "4000 reasons to own
>an Amiga" contest was posted.  I have since lost that list.  Would someone
>be good enough to E-mail me the Usenet post, pleeeease :).  My little
>brother thinks he has an excellent quote to send.
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
> _ __ ___ ____ _____ _____________ __ _ ___ ___ _ _  _  _  _  _  _
>///_//__//___//____//_______  _   \\// \\ //   \V/ )/ )/ )/ )/ )/ )  //  //  //
>mjbrown@lonestar.utsa.edu  / // /) )/ _ \V/ _  // (/ // _  // (/ / \X/ \X/ \X/
>"You fat, bloated BAKA!!" (_/(_/(_/(_/ \_)\_)\_)\___/(_/ \_)\___/ of Megawatts
>

	The contest details and rules appear in the current issues of 
Amazing Computing and AmigaWorld. IMHO, the contest is screwed. For one
it is said that your entry becomes Commodore's property _REGARDLESS_ if
you win or lose. "ENTRY" is not fully defined, but I'd imagine that means
the source as well. I can't personally justify submitting any code that
I have put alot of time and work into for the slim chance at best of win-
ning an A4000 (of which there is only one). 

Jeff



Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: dconnors@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (David Connors)
Subject: Re: What is the default video mode of the A4000?
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 08:24:29 GMT

vmkiili@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Ville-Matti Kiili) writes:

>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>| Ville-Matti Kiili      |   What should I       |   // Only Amiga makes |
>| vmkiili@cc.helsinki.fi |     put here?         | \X/  it impossible... |
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Try "Marc Barrett SUCKS"


   Dave Connors - D.Connors@sct.gu.edu.au     Griffith University, Australia
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From: ianm@icsbelf.co.uk (Ian Moran)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Cygnus Ed & Turbotext
Date: 8 Oct 92 11:32:47 GMT
Organization: ICS Computing Group Ltd., Belfast
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Hello 

Well they both sound excellent. I like the idea of being able to
edit keyboard Arexx macros in TTX, I like CED's multiple undo
facility.  I assume both can be made resident no trouble.

Thanks a lot folks for an informative discussion.

 Ian

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From: Klaus_Seistrup@magneto.bbs.bad.se (Klaus Seistrup)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: How do I run 1.3 when both roms are installed?
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:51:09 GMT
Reply-To: Klaus_Seistrup@magneto.bbs.bad.se (Klaus Seistrup)
Organization: Magnetic Ink, Copenhagen N, Denmark
OD-Comment-To: Roger_Martensson


  Hi Roger.

[08-Oct-92: Martensson/Leonard]

 TL>> My question is this: 
 TL>>        How do I use the "OLD" files to boot 1.3? 

    [...]

 RM> Otherwise, search for a program that do that. I think you will find
 RM> one. I  did, but I don't have a kickstartswitch. 

This one does the trick:

begin 644 OldExecWarn
M```#\P`````````!```````````````%```#Z0````4@>``$#&@`)0`4;01P7
+`$YU<`5.=0```_(`P
``
end
size 56

It returns 5 if the version of exec is less than 37, otherwise 0.


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