From: remy@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Remy Wetzels)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Re: Queenryche and Rush (was Re: Proposal for alt.music.queensryche)
Date: 27 Jul 92 12:19:25 GMT
Followup-To: alt.music.rush
Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands.

in article <1992Jul27.011339.25591@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>
>In article <1992Jul27.002301.1505@leland.Stanford.EDU> jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey) writes:
>>In article <0095DFAD.EF7A6580@Msu.oscs.montana.edu> gjs8818@Msu.oscs.montana.edu (Jared Shockley) writes:
>>>
>>	Queensryche = speed metal???  That's one I've not heard before! I
>>suppose it depends on your definition of speed metal though.  I suppose that 
>>if you consider _Fly by Night_ and _2112_ to be speed metal, then you could
>>call _Rage for Order_ and _Operation Mindcrime_ speed metal--  so long as 
>>you don't expect anybody else to understand what you're talking about!  :-)
>
>Well, if you stretch it, their EP before THE WARNING was very thrashy, 
>particularly "Queen Of The Reich," "Nightrider," and "Blinded."

I don't know how long you have been listening to Hardrock/HM, but in 1983
(I thought "Queen of the Reich" Maxi-EP came out earlier) they were pretty
'progressive' compared to the rest of the music round that time. Besides
the word THRASH (speed, etc.) wasn't even used at that time, there was just
the difference between Hardrock (which referred to the older loud music)
and Heavy Metal. (Jeeh, things have definitely changed :) Ok, those three
songs were pretty heavy, but thrashy?? No, I don't think so!

>Queensryche only had a Pink Floyd sound on "Silent Lucidity." The rest of 
>EMPIRE sounds really different. For some reason I find them very original on
>this album, but yet the songs just have this irritating thing about it that
>makes this originality seem commonplace and blase, but that is my opinion. It
>has a strong melody, but maybe it's because it's no longer very guitar
>oriented and more focused on Geoff Tate even more than in the past.

IMHO I found the sounds on "Rage for Order" more original than the ones on
"Empire". I think in general it's difficult to compare between the Queens-
ryche albums (except maybe "Queensryche 12-inch" and "The Warning"), cos'
they are all so different in (allthough all in Queensryche-) style (and 
concept?).

>Queensryche (1983)

I thought (like I said above) it was released earlier. Just have to say one
thing about this one... On the original 12"-album there were 4 songs on it,
the 3 mentioned above, and "The Lady wore Black". On the CD they put
"Prophecy" as an extra.

>The Warning (1984)
>Rage For Order (1986)
>Queen Of The Reich (live album)

I think you are referring to a bootleg here...

>Operation: mindcrime (1988)
>Empire (1990)
>Operation: livecrime (1991)
>
>I think that's it.

<1992> ?  They released every 2 years a new album... So, I'm waiting :-)

					Remy Wetzels.
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