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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 13:44:25 -0500
Reply-To:     Glenn Millard <A_MILLARDGD@CCSVAX.SFASU.EDU>
From:         Glenn Millard <A_MILLARDGD@CCSVAX.SFASU.EDU>
Subject:      SAS/CONNECT - VMS 6.07 and PC/SAS 6.04
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We just received SAS 6.07 yesterday, but haven't got it installed yet. I
thought I'd look through the manuals to see what's new. On page 37 of SAS
Technical Report P-223 on SAS/CONNECT I noticed something interesting. It
says that to use the RLINK function you must have Release 6.06 or a later
release of SAS on both the local and the remote host.

 Does this mean that with VMS SAS 6.07 installed I can no longer RLINK
 with PC/SAS 6.04? Has anyone tried this to see if it is true?

We do not use the remote link often, but it did allow me to do one thing
I could not do otherwise. We do not have many workstations on our campus,
and none of them have SAS. I was using the RLINK for SAS/GRAPH work. I could
send the SAS GRAPH program to the VAX, where processing was fast and plenty
of memory available and then send the output back to the screen with the
VGA graphic driver. Also I could print it to my parallel connected printer
simply by changing drivers. I am assuming that with 6.07 this will no longer
be possible.

If this is no longer possible is there a good alternative. I also want to
use the new Graphics Editor as well. The RLINK would not get me to the
Graphics Editor but I am looking for something good that will.

We have VT320 compatible terminals and PC's that can connect to the VAX
serially via a terminal server. We also have PC's that direct network
connections to the VAX are possible, with Ethernet cards. For the most part
we are using TELNET or KERMIT 3.01 for our connections. I know Kermit will
do a Tekronix emulation, but I believe it is just black and white.

Does anyone have a good solution for previewing and using the Graphics
Editor on the VAX? The cheaper the idea the better, this university is
not rich. We do not have VT340 terminals and just some demo copies of
ST340.

Glenn Millard
Stephen F. Austin State University
Programmer Analyst / SAS Consultant
SFA Computer Center
Internet: a_millardgd@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 13:19:41 CDT
Reply-To:     "J. Philip Miller" <phil@WUBIOS.WUSTL.EDU>
From:         "J. Philip Miller" <phil@WUBIOS.WUSTL.EDU>
Subject:      Good News From Paradise (fwd)
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> Aloha,

Let me try to add a few comments to Michael Davis' comments.  Let me add my
greeting to his and also to add a big thanks to the University of Hawaii for
allowing me to use the resources there to be able to post this and other
bulletins from Paradise.
>
> Just a quick note from paradise but I though you fellow SAS-Lers would like
> to know that Tech Support announced at the opening session that they will
 begin
> support problem submission and tracking via e-mail.  I hope to find out more
> about the restrictions tommorrow.  SI also will use LISTSERV to distribute
> notices about problems.
>
This was the ONLY announcement of any substance at the opening ceremonie that
has not previously beed described here on SAS-L.  Several of us on the list
have been helping John Sims from SI to test this facility.  Briefly, there is
a registration operation where you need to identify yourself as a person
appropriate to receive tech support for a particular site id.  This, as other
operations are done by sending mail to a special address in sas.com.  Once you
have been approved for receiving the tech support (a manual process), you then
can send problem reports via e-mail and receive replies the same way.  All
problem reports will receive a tacking number and entered into the same
database as problems reported via other methods.  Thus you check on it py
phone, et.  You will be able to include with your mail copies of the sas log
or other files.  In addition SAS will support anonymous FTP from one of their
machines for uploading/downloading files.  As Michael also noted, there is a
LISTSERV running on CMS at SI and it will be used for routine distributions of
information.

Details of the implementation will be discussed at the SAS-L BOF tonight.  I
wore my RTFM t-shirt from last year's BOF most of yesterday and it received
many comments :-)

Most of the rest of the opening ceremonies were hype about how good 6.07
really is, how SI places quality as a very high priority (complete with
pictures of Demming) and how we the users have finally answered the question
as to what SAS is - it is an "Information Delivery System."  This gives us
another three letter buzz-word - IDS.  The highpoint of the evening was when
Jim Goodnight did a live demo of how EIS works.  A close second was when the
volcano that was erupting on stage actually caught on fire :-*

more later!

-phil

--
     J. Philip Miller, Professor, Division of Biostatistics, Box 8067
	 Washington University Medical School, St. Louis MO 63110
     phil@wubios.WUstl.edu - Internet  (314) 362-3617 [362-2694(FAX)]
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 14:57:00 GMT
Reply-To:     Lee Herman <0003724796@MCIMAIL.COM>
From:         Lee Herman <0003724796@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Automatic char/num conversions

>  As I recall, SAS used to do alot of conversions between numeric characters
>and actual numbers fairly easily and automatcially.  This appears to no
>longer be the case, as the LOG below indicates.  The variable BREED is
>character in the permanent datasets that are used to make the temporary
>dataset, VIRGINIA.
>  I corrected the program by enclosing the digits in quotes, and now it
>runs fine.  My gripe is that this is an older program, there are probably
>others like this, and whatever happened to backward compatability?

>9          DATA SPNGH; SET VIRGINIA;
>10           IF YEAR>88 THEN WEIGHT=WEIGHT/NUMBER;
>11           IF BREED=1 THEN BRD='HEREFORD';
>12           IF BREED=2 THEN BRD='ANGUS';
>13           IF BREED=5 THEN BRD='ANGUSX';
>14           IF BREED=7 THEN BRD='CHARX';
>15           IF BREED='H' THEN BRD='HEREFORD';
>16           IF BREED='A' THEN BRD='ANGUS';
>17           IF BREED='AX' THEN BRD='ANGUSX';
>18           IF BREED='C' THEN BRD='CHARX';
>19           IF BREED='CX' THEN BRD='CHARX';
>
>NOTE: Invalid numeric data, BREED='AX' , at line 11 column 6.
>NOTE: Invalid numeric data, BREED='AX' , at line 12 column 6.
>NOTE: Invalid numeric data, BREED='AX' , at line 13 column 6.
>NOTE: Invalid numeric data, BREED='AX' , at line 14 column 6.

Todd's experience suggests that SAS has determined BREED to be a numeric
variable either based on first reference or because of its definition when SAS
data set VIRGINIA was created.

Lee Herman
Software Performance Engineer
MCI Telecommunications
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 12:02:49 EST
Reply-To:     Jean Balent <JBALENT@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
From:         Jean Balent <JBALENT@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Macro Quoting - answer

I don't think you need to use the STR function to execute a macro.
I've always used %macroname (parameters)  with no problems.

Watch out for the error message "SAS went to a new line when it
reached the end of data."  Check to make sure your stored dataset
is in fixed format (not variable.)  Or the input statement columns
went past the logical record length of the data file.
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 20:04:37 EDT
Reply-To:     Jim Cassell <CASSELL@UNCVM1.OIT.UNC.EDU>
From:         Jim Cassell <CASSELL@UNCVM1.OIT.UNC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: DBF file types
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              15 Apr 1992 15:47:34 EDT from
              <U40C2%WVNVM.WVNET.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>

On Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:47:34 EDT <U40C2%WVNVM.WVNET.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU> said:
>Is there a utility which SAS has or sombody has written to convert DBF
>type files which were written by FoxPro.  I now very little about DBF
>file types and foxPro but would like to convert the data to SAS format.
>
You might try PROC DBF in SAS 6.04.  It works with .DBF files produced by
Dbase, anyway.

BTW, I believe that Sally Muller posted a comment from someone at SI Tech
Support to the effect that PROC DBF would not be avaiable in 6.07.  Could
someone with 6.07 on unix or OS/2 platforms check on that?  Now that the
US Census Bureau has begun to release data in this format on CD-ROM, we
have some use for PROC DBF.

Another option is to use DBMS/COPY--I'm sure it supports some version of
foxPro.

Best,
Jim

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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 11:36:00 CST
Reply-To:     FRANKET@BIOST.BIOSTAT.WISC.EDU
From:         FRANKET@BIOST.BIOSTAT.WISC.EDU
Subject:      Cluster analysis
Comments: To: sas-l@ohstvma.acs.ohio-state.edu

Hello,

	My question concerns clustering subjects rather than variables.
I have a data set that contains an id number and 20 items for 100 subjects.
What I would like to do is cluster the subjects using the items instead of
clustering the items using the subjects.  I'm not sure how to tell sas how to
cluster the subjects. I  am thinking that all I need to do is transpose the
data set so the subjects are now the columns and the variables the rows???
Would someone please offer me some advice.  Is there a way to tell sas to simply
use the subjects?  TIA.

				Todd

franket@biost.biostat.wisc.edu
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 12:55:00 CST
Reply-To:     Mikelis Bickis <BICKIS@SASK.USASK.CA>
From:         Mikelis Bickis <BICKIS@SASK.USASK.CA>
Subject:      LAGging arrays
Comments: To: sas-l@vm.ucs.UAlberta.ca

Perhaps this is a FAQ, but here goes anyways.

The LAG function does not actually 'LAG' observations, but just
creates a queue, giving on each call the value of the argument on the
last call.  If the argument is an array, then 'each array element is
lagged separately'.

However, I can't get the above to work.  If my argument is a subscripted
array, then the lagging is done as if the all the array elements were
one long list.  If the argument is an unsubscripted array name, I get
a syntax error.  Is there some way of lagging array elements separately?

[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
17         ARRAY FIXED{*} SEX COLLEGE PROGRAM TYPE MAJOR STATUS;
18         RETAIN NUMMATH;
19         LABEL NUMMATH='Number of math courses taken';
20         LENGTH LAST $ 5 LASTP $ 20;
21         IF FIRST.ID THEN NUMMATH=0;
22         DO IV=1 TO 6;
23         LAST=LAG(FIXED); LASTP='';
ERROR: Illegal reference to the array FIXED.
[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]

NOTE: SAS (r) Proprietary Software Release 6.06.01
NOTE: Running on VAX Model 6000-340 Serial Number 0A000005.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bickis@sask.usask.ca<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 23:00:35 EDT
Reply-To:     Marshall Feldman <MARSH@URIACC.BITNET>
From:         Marshall Feldman <MARSH@URIACC.BITNET>

I have a survey on which firms listed their five most important suppliers
and their suppliers' locations.  Now I want to find out what percent of
firms in the survey get supplies from different places (e.g., what percent
get supplies from N.Y., from Boston, etc.).

The five suppliers are separate variables.  If I collapse them by creating
a new file with a separate OUTPUT statement for each of the five variables,
I get up to five times as many firms as I really have (not all
respondents listed as many as five firms), so if a place appears only once,
its relative frequency should be 1/N where N is the actual number of firms,
but its computed relative frequency will be 1/M where M is the number
of supplier locations reported.

On the other hand, if I do not create a separate file, the five original
variables are not compatible.  Firm 1 may have NY as the first variable,
Firm 2 may have NY as its third in the list, Firm 3 may list five different
cities, and Firm 4 may list five completely different cities.

Does anybody have a suggestion for a quick and easy way to compute
what percent of all firms get their supplies from the various cities?

Marsh Feldman
Community Planning
204 Rodman Hall
University of Rhode Island
Kingston, RI 02881-0815
(marsh @ uriacc.uri.edu)
401/792-2248
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:29:22 EDT
Reply-To:     dduncan@CC.GETTYSBURG.EDU
From:         dduncan@CC.GETTYSBURG.EDU
Subject:      Re: Hallelujah for Unix users!

Although I haven't received anything in writing, my SI sales rep told
me last week that they were dropping prices and that we would be able
to license all products for our SUN server for $2,000.

Dean Duncan
Gettysburg College
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 09:02:19 ECT
Reply-To:     Lary Jones <LJONES@BINGVMB.BITNET>
From:         Lary Jones <LJONES@BINGVMB.BITNET>
Subject: Re: SAS vs. SPSS Summary.

On Fri, 3 Apr 1992 16:35:40 EST Howard Schreier said:
>> Macintosh                       ?       (SPSS offers full implementation)
>>                                         (SAS offers good visualization pkg)
>
>I would say that SPSS clearly wins here,  because  there  is
>*no*  SAS  for  the  Mac.  The package referred to is JMP, a
>distinctly different product from the SAS Institute.  It may
>be good, it *is* from SI, but it's not SAS.

I made the comment to which Howard is responding. Actually, I do feel
SPSS has an edge, but was trying to be as objective as possible since
I am an ardent Macintosh user, and an owner of SPSS for the Mac ;-).
I do feel that SPSS 4.1 for the Mac is a good implementation, and
clearly is better as a general pupose package, but is lacking in
visualization and exploratory techniques.  SAS JMP 2.x is a much
richer package than the initial release, but still lacks some of the
general purpose functionality of SPSS and Systat.  My question mark
evaluation of the Macintosh offerings of SI and SPSS was meant to
imply that one's choice depends on what sort of functions one is
looking for.

-Lary Jones

__________________________________________________________________
Lary Jones...Computing Services...SUNY-Binghamton...(607) 777-2879
School of Management Research Support ...... LJones@BingVMB.Bitnet

P.S.  Our university is variously known as the State University of
New York at Binghamton, the University Center at Binghamton, and
now Binghamton University (recommendation of a new name from a
campus study group).  I wish that our budget was as rich as our
supply of names!
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Reply-To:     Richard Wright <rcw@TENET.EDU>
From:         Richard Wright <rcw@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: output from PROC DATASETS
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On Mon, 6 Apr 1992, todd pukanecz wrote:

> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:42:37 EDT
> From: todd pukanecz
> Subject: output from PROC DATASETS
> To: Multiple recipients of list SAS-L <SAS-L%TCSVM@VM.TCS.TULANE.EDU>
>
> I want to get the output of the directory from PROC DATASETS to go to
> a SAS dataset instead of or in addition to the log.  I want to process
> this dataset to generate macro calls for further processing.  I've
> been playing with various combinations of options for PROC DATASETS and
> the CONTENTS statement and its options, all to no avail.  I suppose
> I could use PROC PRINTTO, but then I still need one more DATA step to
> process that output before I can generate my macro calls.
>
> My question is, is there a nice way to get a SAS dataset that contains
> a list of SAS datasets in a library?
>     todddddddddd

todddddd......
 Have your tried the following:

PROC CONTENTS DATA=adatalib._all_ OUT=liblist ;
RUN;

This will produce a data set with each field (variable) and its
associated attributes - e.g. library name, data set name, format, informat
 and etc.

In particular, it will produce a character variable called NAME whose value
will be a variable (field) name. Easier done than said.

If you wish to suppress printing CONTENTS use the NOPRINT switch.

         ============================================
        =  RRRRR ------ CCCCC ----- WW          WW =
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      = RR     RR  CC        CC - WW          WW =
     = RR    RR - CC           - WW          WW =
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Reply-To:     Philip Tejera <TEJERA@BARUCH.BITNET>
From:         Philip Tejera <TEJERA@BARUCH.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Supplemental libraries in 5.18 to 6.06
Comments: To: Durpee McNeir <ITOG400@INDYCMS.BITNET>,
              SAS Discussion <SAS-L@UGA.BITNET>

On Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:26:27 EST you said:
>We use several of the procedures in the supplemental
>libraries in sas 5.18.  In moving to 6.06 we loose the
>supplemental libraries.  Does anyone know what would
>replace PHREG?

The question implies you already know the answer :-) . In fact, 5.18
does not have PHREG, but rather PHGLM, in the SUGI library.
PHREG is available in SAS 6.07 as part of SAS/STAT. See SAS
Technical Report P-229, SAS/STAT Software: Changes and Enhancements,
pp. 433-479. But that is 6.07. I personally would not move to 6.06,
but rather insist on 6.07, which others on the list have described
as a much more satisfactory "production" version. Since I assume
INDYCMS is a CMS site, it should have just received or be about to
receive this recent release, which started shipping in March.
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Reply-To:     Kevin Nechodom <knechod@STACC.MED.UTAH.EDU>
From:         Kevin Nechodom <knechod@STACC.MED.UTAH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: New Unix Pricing Schedule
Comments: To: SAS Mailing List <sas-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>

>
> As of April 1, there is a new fee schedule for Unix for academic institutions
> that I feel is responsive to many of the comments which have been made on
> SAS-L about SAS Institute's policy.
>
> The first feature is that all products are bundled together, so for the same
> cost, you can license all products - Base, AF, ASSIST, CONNECT, ETS, FSP,
> GRAPH, IML, INSIGHT, OR, QC, STAT.
>
> Here are the prices (/yr, US$)
>
> Workstation Units              First Year     Renewal
> 	5                       2000            1500
>        10                       2500            2000
>        25                       3000            2500
>        50                       3500            3000
>       100                       4000            3500
>
> Each platform is licensed seperately, e.g. if you want to run both DEC & SUN
> you will need to have two licenses.
>
> For UNIX-based servers is $2500 first year, $2000 renewal.
>
> If you already have a license, you need only pay renewal rates.  Contact you
> friendly SAS sales-critter for more details, mine is sure friendly about this
> new offer :-*
>
>
> Just in time so the SI staff don't get beat up too bad at SUGI :-)
>
> -phil
>
> --
>      J. Philip Miller, Professor, Division of Biostatistics, Box 8067
> 	 Washington University Medical School, St. Louis MO 63110
>      phil@wubios.WUstl.edu - Internet  (314) 362-3617 [362-2694(FAX)]
>

However ... !

My sales rep just told me that I was not eligible!  She said that, to
qualify, you must 1) be using SAS in a classroom setting, or 2) have
graduate students working on SAS for projects for their degrees.

In other words, I do not qualify :-(

--
Kevin Nechodom U of U STACC (801) 581-6410 | Let's all be nonconformist,
   In the event that I am caught, the UofU | together!
   disavows any knowledge of my activities | -- rallying cry at annual
knechod@stacc.med.utah.edu                 |    convention
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 09:36:53 +0200
Reply-To:     Markus Huerzeler <hurzeler@STAT.MATH.ETHZ.CH>
From:         Markus Huerzeler <hurzeler@STAT.MATH.ETHZ.CH>
Subject:      boxplot macro

We are running SAS 6.04 on PC's. In the book 'SAS System for Statistical
Graphics (1991)' is a macro for high resolution graphics boxplot.

Have someone this macro or something like this for boxplots, that he can
send me by e-mail?

I'm not motivated do tip this seven pages into the machine.

Thanks for all help.

<hurzeler@stat.math.ethz.ch>
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 12:15:05 EST
Reply-To:     Jean Balent <JBALENT@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
From:         Jean Balent <JBALENT@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Filenames - re
Comments: To: sas-l@uga.cc.uga.edu

In mainframe SAS, to concatenate filenames, I use:

set grad._all;

  I'm not positive that this works in v6.06.
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:59:27 PDT
Reply-To:     "P. Oldenkamp 5-4481" <oldenkmp@ESPRESSO.BOEING.COM>
From:         "P. Oldenkamp 5-4481" <oldenkmp@ESPRESSO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      More SUGI News
Comments: To: SAS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu

Michael and Phil have already posted the big news about tech support thru
e-mail but there was one additional announcement that I hadn't heard.

The next release of SAS will be for Windows 3.1, OS/2 2.0(32 bits), and
VSE(I think).  This will happen "early in the fourth quarter".  The OS/2
version may be called 6.08.

The publications booth is conducting two surveys.  One asks to imagine
that one is stranded on a desert island and can only have 10% of the
SAS System and to pick the parts of SAS most important to getting one's
work done.  The other survey is on on-line documentation.  Now what could
SI possibly want with this information?

The fire Phil refered to was not part of the program and just about made
the opening session a lot more exciting than anyone wanted.  I'm planning
on posting a more complete trip report after I get home.

Paul OldenKamp
Boeing Computer Services
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