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From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Addendum to Satscan Satellite Services Chart vol 1 num 5
Date: 16 Aug 92 05:32:10 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque


I decided to release an addendum file instead of clogging up the
net with 4 long postings.  Post-Olympic activity and the moving
of services to G5 permanently are the reasons for this short 
update.  

The next major release of the chart will be in late Aug/early Sept
with new video and audio services listed as well as satellite
power (transponder power) and updated inclinations just to name
a few things.

Enjoy!

Robert
roberts@triton.unm.edu

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Addendum to Satscan Satellite Services Chart vol 1 num 5

August 15, 1992

Please use this file as corrections to the Satscan Satellite
Services Chart vol 1 num 5.  I decided to release this short file
just to correct the post-Olympics activity as well as reflect the
changes on F1R and G1 due to some services moving permanently to
Galaxy 5.

A complete chart with these corrections and many more additions
of new services and audio services will be released in late
August/early September.

Satcom F4R

F4R-4(C)     VC2                    Cable Video Store PPV service

F4R-11(C)                           (none) 

Galaxy 5

G5-4(C)      ITC   5.58, 5.80       Sci-Fi Channel (promos)
G5-4(C)               6.80
G5-4(C)
G5-4(C)      ASC   6.20             o/a

G5-10(C)     ITC                    MOR MUSIC TV slate w/color
G5-10(C)                            bars

G5-13(C)     VC2                    Consumer News and Business
G5-13(C)                            Channel (CNBC)
G5-13(C)
G5-13(C)     ASC   6.80             Barker Channel

Satcom F1R

F1-1(C)      VC2                    American Movie Classics

F1-4(C)      VC2                    Request 2 PPV -- UA

F1-6(C)                             (none)

F1-18(C)                            (none)

F1-23(C)                            (none)

F1-24(C)     VC2                    Bravo


Galaxy 1

G1-2(C)      ITC                    Slate saying TNN moved

G1-3(C)                             (none)

G1-4(C)      ITC                    Slate saying Disney East
G1-4(C)                             moved

G1-7(C)                             (none)

G1-8(C)                             (none)

G1-11(C)                            (none)

G1-12(C)                            (none)

G1-17(C)     ITC   6.2, 6.8         The New Inspirational Network

G1-18(C)                            (none)

G1-21(C)     ITC                    Color Bars

-- End of Addendum, SS v1 n5 --
From: ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Red Dwarf...sighted (and even watched)
Keywords: Red Dwarf British Sci Fi
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 01:27:09 PDT
Organization: Ian Justman's pitiful excuse for an AT clone

alen@crash.cts.com (Alen Shapiro) writes:

> Red Dwarf was on F1-03 9:00pm PST Sunday 16th August (KRMA).
                   ^^^^^                                ????

You got your GE Americom satellites mixed up.  KRMA is on Satcom
_C_1, not Satcom F1R.

IMNSFHO, PBS station affiliates should never be scrambled.  Nor
should any "normal" network, i.e. FOX, NBC, PBS, CBS, ABC, which
considers itself "free" for that matter.

> It was quite funny and was followed by Blackadder (Rowan Atkinson) who
> was funnier.

Don't watch much Black Adder, but Red Dwarf, that's worth a VC II
Plus or VC II RS, but my folks would tell you otherwise...  :-)

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From: descobar@ADS.COM (Darlene Escobar)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Questions
Date: 19 Aug 92 23:15:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mtn. View, CA (415) 960-7300

I tried to subscribe to some programs and was I told a need to update
my system to VC II +. I called General Instruments to get an authorized
dealer in my area. Nearest one is in Livermore.

I was told by the Orbit hotline that if I don't use an authorized dealers
the 3 year protection is no good for further upgrades. IS this true?

What would happen if I just called a local dealer in to check out the system
and upgrade the system to VCII +?

Are there any good dealers in my area?

These subscription companies keep telling me to check the system 
identification. I have by doing the following and nothing happens. 
What else can I do to get the information.

I press setup, then press the number one twice. I get alots of numbers.
That is not what they want.I have disconnected the power to the receiver 
and re-connected it with the same results. Do you have any suggestions?

How do you know if the receiver was tampered with by the previous owner?

I was also told that if my system was NOT subscribed or was in fact tampered
with I'm not authorized for a free upgrade. Therefore I would have to pay 
for the upgrade. Is this true?  I know nothing is free.

How much are these upgrades going for now?

Currently, I'm only getting one channel and would like to start using
the satellite more, but I'm have problems trying to figure out what is
wrong with the satellite/receiver.

Oh yes, I forgot to tell you, I'm a novice and any help will be 
greatly appreciated.
From: TIPPY@DAYTON.BITNET
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Republican Convention feeds
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:14:17 GMT
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Re: Republican Convention Feeds

I saw also info on one of the PBS channels on S4.

Tippy
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From: an660@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Sandy Maurer)
Subject: Re: dISH sIZE.
Reply-To: an660@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Sandy Maurer)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 04:33:42 GMT


In a previous article, ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman) says:

>and I believe it comes with a pretty low-temp LNB to make up for
>the small dish diameter.
>
>Though I do agree, bigger is better.  I'm pretty satisfied with
>our 10' M/A-COM Prodelin dish.  Holds up very well to our
>stiffest winds here in Sacramento, CA.  BTW, for those not in the
>know, it's a fibreglass dish.
>
Hello Ian,

   According to the footprint diagram U would need a 10 ft dish for 
best reception. Here in Northern Ohio an 8 ft dish is sufficent.

Altho I hv yet to purchase my system,  friend who used to be in the
sat business made that statement to me after many installations.

Since I wl either hav to install the dish along side the house on a pole
20-25 ft up or on the bottom portion of the roof, he recommended this
dish for me.

Its a Paraclipse 8 ft VSC alum one piece. With the signal power of the
sats increasing wi the new launches, I wl be able to hv great reception
for yrs. 
(Hopefully soon)

Regards,
Sandy


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From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Subject: Turner's Services -- was "Re: Observations..."
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 19:07:31 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <D2150040.bi40nn@phunt.MV.COM> phil@phunt.MV.COM writes:
>
>
>CNN
>HN
>CNNI
>HNI
>AP Channel
>CHeckout Channel...
>
>Quite impressive!

Yep, and soon (if you believe some of the telecommunications articles
I have been reading lately)...

THE FITNESS CHANNEL!   

Robert
roberts@triton.unm.edu
From: Power@cup.portal.com (Ron A Uitz)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: My problem with the way satellite TV is run
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 09:26:53 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Kip, I think that's a good idea, except the predicate to making it work
is an effective encryption system, otherwise people would "free ride" and
the fees paid by the honest viewers would not add up to enough to convince
programmers to join the "pool."
From: john@newave.mn.org (John A. Weeks III)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: >>$265 Ku-band System<<
Date: 20 Aug 92 01:28:09 GMT
Organization: Newave Communications, Ltd, Lake Wobegon, MN

In <1992Aug18.220136.12103@medtron.medtronic.com> sh0002@porsche (Scott Hou):
> I'm working on getting an order of small Ku-band satellite dish [...]

Please put on your salesperson hat and tell us what magical things we can
receive with this Ku system.

Also, can a satellite dish work from inside an apartment?  I can set it up
in front of a window, but I can only see east and south (not west or south
west).

-john-

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From: starta@tosh.UUCP (John Starta)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Actuator Advice
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 92 12:48:45 MST
Reply-To: tosh!starta@enuucp.eas.asu.edu (John Starta)
Distribution: na

After two years of routine sky scanning and annual monsoons, my actuator arm 
called it quits yesterday afternoon. In light of this, I am looking for 
recommendations for what brand I should replace it with, where to buy, and 
what type -- ball or acme.

john

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From: kfsmith@vnet.ibm.com (Kirk Smith)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 15:57:25 EDT
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: >>$265 Ku-band System<<
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0
            <1992Aug21.081214.8762@medtron.medtronic.com>

In <1992Aug21.081214.8762@medtron.medtronic.com> Scott Hou writes:
>
>My advice is, read the FAQ, visit your local Satellite store,
>get a Sky Vision catalog, then if you want to get the Ku-band
>satellite system, send me email to see if I have enough interested
>people to get the discount price of $265.
>
>--
>Scott Hou                          phone: 612-574-8660
>Consulting at Medtronic, Inc.      email: scott.hou@pace.medtronic.com
>
Sorry for the dumb question but here goes:

Where can I find the FAQ? Thanks...

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From: adammot@ltrnativ.UUCP (Adam Mottershead)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Dish Sharing
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 22:20:28 EDT
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Reply-To: adammot@ltrnativ.UUCP (Adam Mottershead)
Distribution: world
Organization: The All Ter Nah Tive Un Der Groend

I am wondering what I would need to split the signal from my neighbour's
dish.  As of right now, all that I have is an IRD, but want to be able
to watch some of the stuff on the birds.  I asked my neighbour about splitting
the output from his single LNB and he had no problems with the idea, but he
did not know how to go about it.

Although, I will be subject to his dish movement and polarity switching, I
really don't mind for now.  But then again, he rarely ever changes from TNN,
so the 12 channel only selection should remain pretty stable.

Am I right in assuming all that I need is a splitter to go in-line with the
the cable from the LNB somewhere?  Also, does the splitter need to have a
DC block of some kind built-in?  I imagine it would as it would probably fry
the LNB having two power voltages passing to it.

What kind of signal degradation can be expected?  Can anyone recommend a make
and model of splitter which would work in this setup and also reduce the
signal loss?

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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 09:13:45 -0400
From:         Mike Gingell <aurs01!aurw6b!gingell@CONCERT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Refurbished Chapparal Cheyennes

gato.mis.semi.harris.com!eam writes:
>I have a Sierra ][, which as I posted, is fried.  I was intrigued by
>your posting for the Chyanne - is that model similar to the Sierra ][?

Sorry, not having seen either of these in person I can't say.  I only have
the info in the ad for the Cheyenne and a 3 year old Skyvision catalog to
go on. I would say that they MUST be similar being made by the same company
but anyway they are both 4-5 year old designs and won't have certain features
like favourite channels, timers, analog stereo, programmable bandwidths
etc.
From: pete@wlbr.iipo.gtegsc.com (Pete Lyall)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Should I take my dish with me?
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:52:58 GMT
Organization: GTE Federal Systems

I have a question to ask the assembled wisdom of rec.video.satellite:

Should I take my dish with me?


I'm moving from the Los Angeles (Simi Valley, actually) area to
Denver, Colorado. I already have the home picked out, and I _can_
install a satellite dish, but not on the roof (i.e. yard only).

My current dish is an eaves mount - a pole sunk in to the ground along
the side of the garage (cement), up against the side wall, and passing
through the eaves. The dish is mounted atop this, and is accessible
from the roof.

From my experience with straightening out a positioner problem (I
dumped the dish), I know that te dish is VERY heavy. I have a 10
footer that breaks own into four sections, although I don't know if I
can disassemble it while it's still mounted.


Is it reasonable, worthwhile, economically rational, or possible for
a few friends and myself to get up there, break it down, and expect it
to be in reasonable shape for travel (and re-use in Denver)?

I got a brief opinion from the folks at DBS broadcasting... they said
"no - leave it!". They ball-parked a de-installation to run about
$250-300. They also said to leave the cable in place (5 coax type), as
it'll be a bear to pull, and at .75/foot, I'd be better getting new
stuff.

While I'm at it, any Denver area folks have any suggestons for a
reliable, economical satellite installer?

Pete Lyall


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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1992 02:33:13 CST
From:         Glenn <ALEXAJOH@MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA>
Subject:      Re: Info request: INTERSAT IRQ160

I used to own the same unit.  If you want any lit on it, or need specs (i still
 have some, as well as a few componets).  Please email me you snail mail addres
s and I will send them to you.     Later...Glenn
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 12:15:26 EDT
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: Help with stereo processer bought from Alltronics
X-To:         HOMESAT@VM1.NoDak.EDU

>Okay-I bought this thing they advertised as a tv stereo processer
>and I cant figure out how it works.Surplus so no dox.
>I will describe it to you...
>It is called the Studioline Stereo-Track 2.
>The bacvck panel has a mryad of ins and outs.
>Channel 3 or 4 in,cable in and out,FM in-out,cable b in-out,L and
>R out fixed,L and R out varible.
>On the front is an infinite detent dial,a two digit green display,
>and a three positon switch labled auto-off-man.

This device sadly was made for cable and not for satellite.  One of Jim
Basses friends got one and did a bit of rewiring and managed to get some SCPC
in MONO with it.  It is made to work with a special CABLE TV box.

It is not a satellite stereo processor, and won't do ANYTHING on satellite.
You can turn it into a 70 mhz mono receiver, but the people I know that were
playing with it stopped for various reasons.  A while back someone who had
one wrote me and asked if I could put him in touch with the guy who was doing
the majority of the tinkering.  I tried doing this on FRIDAY NIGHT LIVE, but
nothing became of it.

>From what I understand it is impressive to look at.  But the applications are
limited even for those who can get in there with soldering iron and wire
clippers.  As it stands with no modification, there is absolutely NO
application on earth for this box because the cable system it was designed to
work with is no longer used (It was a cable FM stereo service on a shifted
band, for premium music.  Similar in marketing idea to DMX, ahead of its
time though.  I believe it uses 19khz multiplex and tunes BELOW channel 2 for
it's RF spectrum.

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From: eam@gato.mis.semi.harris.com (Technology Centre)
Subject: Physical Dish Obstructions
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:59:16 GMT
Distribution: u
Organization: Melbourne FL

I've noticed that some Pine Trees are now partially obstructing the dish's
easternmost arcs.  As I've been trying desperately to get things to grow in
the yard, I'm hesitant to trim or (gasp) erradicate them.  

Although I often get sparkles on all or most birds, I never attributed these
to obstructions.  Do I need a clear line-of-site from dish to bird?  Is it only
the centre of the bird, or does the entire dish need to be unobstructed?  And
lastly, are there "proximity effects", where nearby objects, just out of the
path, could cause signal attenuation or distortion.

Thanx,

Ed

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 08:12:43 -0400
From:         Mike Gingell <aurs01!aurw6b!gingell@CONCERT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Bouncing Satellite Signals off METEORITES

Imran Anwar <ia4@CUNIXA.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU> writes:
>Today someone mentioned to me that some companies broadcast satellite
>signals by bouncing them off METEORITE (or maybe meteorite showers)
>based upon computer estimates of the number and location of meteorites

>Pardon me if this is too ridiculous to believe but maybe I misunderstood
>what the gentleman was talking about.

No it is not ridiculous.  Amateur radio operators have been doing this
for years. I think the military do it too.

Mike Gingell, Alcatel, Raleigh, NC USA  (919) 850-6444
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From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Subject:  NFL Special report (feeds, backhauls)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 05:39:21 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: us

In article <1992Aug13.145401.9318@pt.com> jvz@pt.com (John Zambito) writes:

>I was under the impression that the games would not be 
>scrambled. This was supposedly due to the pressure from

Pre-season backhauls are normally not scrambled.  The only
abnormality in backhauls was some TNT football game within
the last week.  They were LEITCH scrambled on G6 but I found
them ITC on SBS-6.  

During the season (assuming last year's NFL games will be handled
the same way this year) the backhauls for CBS, TNT, and ESPN were
scrambled and NBC's backhauls were ITC while ABC's were sometimes
scrambled, but mostly ITC.  I found NBC and CBS affiliate feeds ITC
while ABC, ESPN and TNT were scrambled.

As for preseason games, look around the sky.  I've found the majority
ITC (especially look on G6, SBS6, and T1 for the feeds). 

When the season starts, a good place to get lucky to find football
backhauls should be on K2, SBS-6, and GSTAR-2.  But don't count
out GSTAR-4 (I found a CBS backhaul there one Sunday and I found
a ABC game (maybe playoffs?) game there ITC from the LA Superdome).

Which reminds me... There must be extreme TI in the Louisiana Superdome
area as most of the football feeds I see are uplinked on Ku band.
ABC Monday Night Football from there was ITC on SBS-6 during one
the games from there and CBS usually has KU backhauls from there.

Enough info to arm a arm-chair QB?  ;)

Robert
"Mr. Sports"
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From: juergenb@ecs.comm.mot.com (Juergen Bartels)
Subject: Re: MAC!
Organization: eng
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 07:05:41 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.154148.18746@cs.tu-berlin.de> harry@cs.tu-berlin.de (Harald Brinkmann) writes:

>My conclusions from all this: B-MAC performs much better with
>below-threshold reception (probably due to the rather long 0101010...-
>synch word broadcast in EVERY line, compared with the rather difficult
>to find D2MAC-synch word). If you receive D2MAC signals you should
>allow a bit of margin of those rainy days and it is probably not your
>receiver's fault if you loose reception so quickly.
>

I aggree with you that D2MAC/DMAC is very sensitive to noise. Most annoying
is that the sound interrupts in burst when S/N goes down, the problem
here is that it's complete interrupted whereas with PAL etc it gets noisier gradually.
Also, you have to *PRECISELY* tune your tuner! In all those cases you wished
the signal would be PAL because then you would still see a picture at least 
with a few sparklies.
For BMAC note that it uses a lower data rate, also the longer sync word helps.
You didn't mentioned anything about sound quality, it should even with BMAC
deterioate much quicker than vision. Maybe check AFN radio as well, it is
conveyed in the digital packet.

On the positive side the sound quality is just excellent, at least when the
audio feed to the D2MAC/DMAC encoder is good. One example is Radio Rocks on
the NRK packet. It's like that they connected their CD player directly to the
encoder. (I hope it's still there, haven't checked it for a while)

Do you know how long AFN will stay in Berlin, since the troups get withdrawn.

Jurgen


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