HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: txl@dbs42.teradata.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Political Mumble Jumble
Date: 27 Jul 92 01:25:09 GMT
Reply-To: txl@dbs42.teradata.com ()
Distribution: usa
Organization: ATT/NCR Teradata Business Unit
Originator: txl@dbs42

Hello everyone,
I am very curious about the percentage of Rep/Dem/Others in the Vietnamese
community.  Does anyone have this information?  Was there any question about
political affiliation in the 1990 Concensus?

My impression is that the Vietnamese community is tilted heavily toward the 
Rep party because of its anti-communist stance in the Reagan era.  Now that 
the Communist block has been weakened drastically with the dissolution of 
the Soviet Union and its Eastern European satellites and that the Rep anti-communist stance has been softened noticeably with the Bush administration's treatments of China in the last several years, are there 
other issues potent enough to bind the Viet voting block to the Rep party?

The embargo remains foremost in our minds, but the chance for the Bush
administration to stick to it is very low because of its pro-business 
attitude. Now that China has flexed its muscles in the Spratley conflict stirring concerns in the South East, Vietnam as a strategic buffer to contain China (in place of Communism) is coming back to play.  It may be another 
factor for the US to move closer to VN to sooth its Asian trading partners.
(Vietnam may very soon be armed by the US or the CIS.)  A Dem administration
may react along a similar line in this issue.  Assuming an exhaustion of our
political means to retain the embargo, are there any other overriding issues
that will save our alignment with the Rep party?

Are there social issues in our community to draw us toward the Dem party?
Democrats seem to dole out more largesses to the poor and that will have many 
practical impacts on the new arrivals from VN (the H.O. refugees who bear the 
most sufferings in the last two decades).  Please don't forget that a majority
of the Viet community benefited from many social programs originated by the 
Johnson and Carter administrations.

Any comments will be appreciated.  Please note that I am not attempting to
persuade anyone to change party.

-Tuan with his 2-cents
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: mtruong@ccs.carleton.ca (Minhtri Truong)
Subject: Re: [Tho+] kho^ng tu+.a dde^` (Sans Titre)
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: mtruong@ccs.carleton.ca
Organization: N/A
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:59:51 GMT

Vinh Nguyen writes:
> 
> ~Subject: Re: ^^'[Tho+] khon^ng tu+.a dde^` ...
> ~Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
> ~References: <1992Jul21.062654.25158@mercury.ncat.edu>
> 
> From article <1992Jul21.062654.25158@mercury.ncat.edu>, 
> by heatherp@mercury.ncat.edu (Andre T-N Nguyen):
>  
> >            Sans Titre      
> > 
> > Sous le pont Champlain coule le St-Laurent
> > Et nos amours
> > Faut-il qu'il m'en souvienne
> > La joie venait toujours apre`s la peine
> > 
> > Vienne la nuit sonne l'heure
> > Les jours s'en vont je demeure
> > 
> > Les mains dans les mains restons face a` face
> > Tandis que sous
> > Le pont de nos bras passe
> > Des e'ternels regards l'onde si lasse
> > 
> > Vienne la nuit sonne l'heure
> > Les jours s'en vont je demeure
> > 
> > L'amour s'en va comme cette eau courante
> > L'amour s'en va
> > Comme la vie est lente    
> > Et comme l'Espe'rance est violente
> > 
> > Vienne la nuit sonne l'heure
> > Les jours s'en vont je demeure
> > 
> > Passent les jours et passent les semaines
> > Ni temps passe'
> > Ni les amours reviennent
> > Sous le pont Champlain coule le St-Laurent
> > 
> > Vienne la nuit sonne l'heure
> > Les jours s'en vont je demeure .....
> 
> Des rimes inte'ressantes ... peut-e^tre ...
> Mais ... qu'est-ce-que Verlaine va dire ???
> 
> Vinh Nguyen
> 
          Et qu'est-ce-que Guillaume Apollinaire dirait?  En tout cas,
moi, ca me fait penser au pont Mirabeau.

Tri'
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: tran@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (Liem Tran)
Subject: Summary: la`m sao chuye^?n tie^`n qua` dde^'n tra.i ty. na.n an toa`n
Organization: Macquarie University, School of Mathematics, Physics, Computing and Electronics
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 02:15:57 GMT


Ma^'y ho^m tru+o+'c to^i co' ho?i ve^` vie^.c go+?i tie^`n qua` sang tra.i
ty. na.n sao cho an toa`n. 

Nguye^n va(n:

To^i co' mo^.t ngu+o+`i cha'u hie^.n ddang ke.t o+? tra.i ty. na.n Pulau Galang I. DDa~ nhie^`u la^`n to^i go+?i tie^`n va` qua` dde^`u bi. ma^'t. Ne^'u ca'c
anh chi. na`o bie^'t ca'ch go+?i sao cho an toa`n la`m o+n chi? du`m.

Tha`nh tha^.t ca'm o+n,

TL.
---------------

Co' mo^.t so^' ba.n dde^` nghi. nhu+ sau:

-----------------
From exubvd@exu.ericsson.se Wed Jul 22 00:17:38 1992

Ne^'u anh go+?i money order ba(`ng thu+ ba?o -da?m hay express mails
thi` se~ kho^ng bi. ma^'t.

Bi`nh

* Tha^.t ra to^i dda~ go+?i ba?o dda?m mo^.t la^`n nhu+ng va^~n bi. ma^'t :-(  

------------------
From 0004047610@mcimail.com Wed Jul 22 00:19:53 1992
From: Kim Luong <0004047610@mcimail.com>

Anh ne^n ra bank va` ask for sending "money transfer" ne^'u
cha'u anh co' ddi.a chi? (no P.O. box) o+? ddo'.  Bank se?
giao tie^`n ta^.n tay cho tha^n nha^n.  Fee ho+i ma('c mo^.t
chu't, hi`nh nhu+ $30 per transaction nhu+ng ba?o dda?m.
Ne^n check with several bank because fee is vary.

Good luck
KGL

* Kho^ng hie^?u "money transfer" ddu+o+.c go+?i nhu+ the^' na`o - to^i dda~
ho?i va`i nha` ba(ng o+? U'c nhu+ng hi`nh nhu+ ho. kho^ng co' vie^.c chuye^?n
tie^`n dde^'n ta^.n tay tha^n nha^n cu?a mi`nh. Ca'c ba.n na`o o+? U'c ne^'u
bie^'t ve^` ca'ch chuye^?n tie^`n na`y la`m o+n chi? du`m.
Go+?i email dde^'n: tran@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au - ca'm o+n tru+o+'c.
 
---------------------
From pham@prl.philips.nl Tue Jul 21 17:59:13 1992

Nho+` ho^.i Ho^`ng tha^.p tu+. ga^`n trong di.a phu+o+ng thi` ba?o da?m ho+n.
Goodluck.

* Ho^`ng tha^.p tu+. co' le~ kho^ng hoa.t ddo^.ng ma.nh ba(`ng ca'c ddoa`n 
thie^.n nguye^.n.

------------------
From: daudo@bcars201.bnr.ca (Dau Do)

Thu+? kie^'m ddi.a chi? cu?a nha` tho+` coi ... Sorry, I don't have it off-hand !!

* Hie^.n  ta.i to^i cu~ng ddang ti`m ddi.a chi? cu?a nha` tho+` va` ca'c ddoa`n
thie^n nguye^.n.

------------------

Tha`nh tha^.t ca'm o+n ca'c ba.n:

Bi`nh
Kim Lu+o+ng
Pha.m Ba(`ng
Dau Do


--
T.L.TRAN	           |	tran@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au	| 
Macquarie University       |	Phone: +61-2-805 8940 		| 
NSW - AUSTRALIA     	   | 					| 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: e0c1445@tamuts.tamu.edu (Eric Chan)
Subject: Re: Spratly Islands (War coming over oil?)
Organization: ~/lib/organization
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 23:38:18 GMT

In article <76791@ut-emx.uucp> joe@astro.as.utexas.edu (Joe Wang) writes:
>In article <1992Jul25.100455.18544@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:
>>China tries to buy an aircraft carrier from Ukraine.
>
>Last I heard, both China and Ukraine denied the rumors that China was
>trying to buy an aircraft carrier.  
>
>
	Troubling as it may seem, this may actually be quite questionable.
China, as yet does not have a real ocean going fleet. What it has so far is 
a compliment of coastal defence ships.
	Having and operating an Carrier are two different ball game . For one
operating a carrier requires an infrastructure of crusiers, destroyers,
frigates and a entire host of support ships.
	Also, operating planes out of a carrier is also quite tricky as Ivan
found out with it's Minsk and not so recent class of carrier. Ivan also found 
out that it's Yak Forgers are hardly capable of sufficant range etc etc.
	Unfortuantely, buying a carrier now whould constitute more of a liabil-
ity then an assert. It becomes nothing short of a white elephant.
	What people should fear about China is it's submarine forces.That can 
wreck havoc on the lines of communications. Also, the entire coast line of 
China gives it unobstructed access to the South Cina Sea and Pacific Ocean.
This in fact acts as a carrier.
	But hey, it's a little more volitile now, since the US pulled out of
Subic and Clark.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: zts_duong@hg.uleth.ca
Subject: NEWS: Unholy Row
Reply-To: zts_duong@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:36:04 GMT


UNHOLY ROW

(from The Far Eastern Economic Review, July 16, 1992)


Three leading southern Vietnamese monks, nominated by the communist government
to run in the July national assembly elections, have received letters calling
on them to withdraw their candidacy.  The pressure on the monks - Thich Thien
Sieu from Hue, along with Thich Minh Chau and Thich Chi Tinh from Ho Chi Minh
City - appears to have been orchestrated by anti-communist forces who content
that relegious leaders should distance themselves from the government.  One of
the letters to Sieu contained three small packets of gunpowder, which observers
interpret as a threath against his life if he does not stand aside.


-------------------
Typos are mine
Ba(`ng La(ng

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: c9121691@wombat.newcastle.edu.au
Subject: lonely
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 09:43:18 GMT

Hello every one.

I would like to see more vietnamese in Australia especialy in N.S.W
Universities comunicate with each other using post in news.

It is very lonely here without you guys saying anything.
So please keep in contact with each other.


I would like to talk to someone in America also.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: nvo@node_27dda.csc.ti.com (Nguyenson Vo)
Subject: Re: Re: [LIT] Thought for the day
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: nvo@tiasic.csc.ti.com
Organization: N/A
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:34:18 GMT

>From: gt4030a@prism.gatech.edu (Tu*' Phu*o*ng)
>Subject: Re: [LIT] Thought for the day
>> 
>> Hoa dde.p ro^`i cu~ng ta`n,
>> Ke.o nga^.m la^u ro^`i cu~ng nha.c,
>> Ti`nh ngu+o+`i ro^`i cu~ng phai,
>> Ddo+`i so^'ng na`y co' gi` la` vi~nh cu+~u ?
>> 
>> Any comment?
>> NV.
>> 
>Hello...!
>
>	Ne^'u tui ddoa'n 0 la^`m thi` NV. ddang bi. tha^'t ti`nh hay la` bi.
>	vo+. bo? cu?ng 0 chu+`ng...Vi` khi trong bo'ng to^'i thi` la`m sao
>	nhi`n tha^'y ti' a'nh sa'ng na`o dda^u....!
>
>	Chu'c may ma('n later...!
>
>	TP

Hi TP,  Ca~m o+n cho lo+`i chu'c may ma('n, nhu+ng ma` ...

 Gia ddi`nh chu+a co' la^'y gi` vo+. bo+?
 Lo`ng chu+a ye^u sao ta la.i tha^t ti`nh
 Tre^n tro+`i cao tra(ng sao sa'ng lung linh
 The^' la.i ba?o ta dang trong bong to^'i ... ;-)) ...
 ...
 Ta hoi nguoi nhung nguoi co tra loi dau,
>> Ddo+`i so^'ng na`y co' gi` la` vi~nh cu+~u ?
 ...

NV.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: nvt@netcom.com (Fam Com)
Subject: Re: Tho+ : Tru+a He`
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 09:53:23 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760) 

>Subject: Tho+: Tru+a He`

>Co^?ng tru+o+`ng ddo', sao gio+` dda^y xa va('ng
>Nay co`n dda^u nhu+~ng tha'ng nga`y nhung to+
>Nhu+~ng tru+a he` o^m sa'ch ta^.p la`m tho+
>Ho^`n lo+ dda~ng be^n ha`ng ca^y xanh nga't ...
>
>Da.o a^'y nhu+~ng va^`n tho+ ti`nh tuye^.t dde.p
>Co' chim se? ri'u ri't ho't tre^n ca`nh
>Co' gio' lu`a to'c ro^'i buo^?i so+'m mai
>Co' bo'ng ca^y la` no+i thu+o+`ng tro^'n na('ng ...
>
>Thuo+? a^'y ma'i tru+o+`ng na`o co' hoa sa^`u
>Hoa ha.nh phu'c thi` gia(ng dda^`y ngo? bu+o+'c
>Cho mo+ u+o+'c tu+o+i ma~i nhu+ na('ng He`
>Cho ky? nie^.m tra`n dda^`y trong ma('t bie^'c ...
>
>Nhu+~ng nga`y vui be^n bo+` ho^` qua' nga('n
>Net' ie^u thu+o+ng la` phi'm dda`n mong manh
>La' khi xu+a gio+` cu~ng dda~ xa ca`nh
>Co`n dda^u nu+a~ nhu+~ng tru+a he` tro^'n na('ng ...
>
>Ai co' nghe tie^'ng gio' ddang thi` tha^`m
>Cu`ng na('ng a^'m giu+a~ tru+a He` oi bu+'c
>Dda~ bao la^`n nho+' ca?nh xu+a ray ru+'c
>Nho+' me^nh mang ha.nh phu'c be^n ma'i tru+o+`ng ...
>
>tt


      Mo^'i ti`nh dda^`u bao gio+` cu~ng la` mo^'i ti`nh 
dde.p nha^'t va` kho' que^n nha^'t trong ddo+`i .   Ne^'u 
mo^'i ti`nh na`y dda~ ddu+o+.c "developed" o+? xu+' Texas 
no'ng bo?ng kho^ ca(`n, thi` no' la.i ca`ng kho' que^n o+?
xu+' Colorado (Denver ?) la.nh lu`ng ba(ng gia' .....

					NVT
From: lpham@hpldsla.sid.hp.com (Leslie Pham)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: tho* : DU* A^M va` HO^`I TU*O*?NG
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:10:24 GMT
Organization: HP Scientific Instruments Division - Palo Alto, CA


        DU*  A^M  VA`  HO^`I  TU*O*?NG

	    Anh ra -di
                em buo^`n
		   tra(ng nhi`n em qua cu*?a so^?
    
    Lo`ng tro^'ng tro*n em so*. a'nh tra(ng
    Anh tro*? ve^` ti`nh xua^n ra.ng ro*~
    Cu`ng anh vui mo^.ng tha('m duye^n no^`ng

	     Ti`nh ma(.n ma`
		   cho nhau
		       tu*o*?ng chu*`ng -da~ ma^'t

    Bo^~ng bu*`ng le^n so^'ng da^.y hie^`n ho`a
    Cho mi`nh ga(.p nhau nhen nhu*~ng u*o*'c mo*
    -De^? hoa`i hoa`i nho*' nhung a'nh ma('t
    -De^? tho*`i gian a^'p u? -do*.i cho*`...

	      -De^'n ho^m nay        
			 la` mo*
			    hay la` tha^.t

     Ma` nghe lo`ng cha^'t nga^'t ye^u -du*o*ng
     -De^m nay co' pha?i mi`nh ai thao thu*'c....
     Nho*' mo^i nhau ma' tha('m ti`nh no^`ng!!!!!!

	      Vi` ye^u thu*o*ng!?
			  vi` buo^`n!?
			      lu'c chia tay..

     -Da^~m le^. sa^`u kho'e ma('t kho^ng vo*i
     Em ye^u o*i, xin em -du*`ng kho'c
     Cho lo`ng anh qua(.n tha('t he'o mo`n

	      Nhi`n ky~ -di anh
		       a'nh tra(ng non
				tra(ng -de^m nay ra^'t -de.p

              Nhu* bi`nh minh
			ma~i ma~i sa('t son
                       
             Anh va^~n co`n
		     em va^~n co`n
			 ta^'t ca? va^~n co`n....
     
     Nhu*ng chi? la` du* a^m va` ho^`i tu*o*? ng..............)))

     ------------------------------------------------------------
                                          BIE^?N MA(.N 
					  -De^m tra(ng 16
From: mtruong@ccs.carleton.ca (Minhtri Truong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: [POL] Our Color, Symbol, and Slogan
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:00:54 GMT
Reply-To: mtruong@ccs.carleton.ca
Organization: N/A
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu

Huy Thanh Cao writes:
> 
> In <1992Jul23.043716.24204@fx.com> davidto@fxgrp.fx.com (David M To) writes:
> 
> >	Color:		Blue		(Hope, Freedom, color of the Statue 
> >					 of Liberty)
> >			Black		(Defiant)
> >			Yellow		(Ma`u da con nu+o+'c Vie^.t)
> >			White		(Peace)
> >			YOUR IDEA HERE!
> 
> >(Note: I humbly propose that we use BLUE as our color.  I think this is
> >the opposite color to Communist red).
> 
> I wonder why we allow people we don't like to take away ideas or
> feelings or even colors that are ours.  Why let the communists co-opt
> the color red, co-opt part of the language, co-opt the word peace, and
> so on?  I realize the importance to some people of "making a
> statement."  Yeah, make a statement and make a splash.  I also realize
> that avoiding taboos is part of the Vietnamese tradition, whether with
> colors or words.  But when too much is tabooed for symbolic reasons,
> life has quite a bit less color.  And when you react to other people's
> standard of political correctness by erecting your own, "count me me
> out," as the Beatles sung.
> 
> 						Huy
> 
> P.S. --	According to a Jeopardy "question," red is the most common
> 	color in the flags of countries.  Not surprising, since it
> 	represents passion and sacrifice--something that isn't specific
> 	only to communists, if you don't mind my pointing that out.
> 

          I agree that the Communists don't have the monopoly on red.
So, in addition to the South Vietnamese flag, we should use another
one:  a red flag with a hole in the center.  Red symbolizes
revolution, and the hole represents the removal of whatever the yellow
star stands for.  How do you like that?

Tri'
From: maun@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU
Subject: Re: [POETRY] Nga`y Tu+o+i Na('ng
In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 24 Jul 92 18:24:54 +0000.
             <1992Jul24.182454.27615@equalizer.fps.com>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:06:33 GMT

 >
 > 	Nga`y Tu+o+i Na('ng
 >
 > 	DDi dda^u ro^`i nhu+~ng ma^y xanh
 > 	Nga`y ru na('ng ru? long lanh mo+ tro+`i
 > 	DDi dda^u ro^`i nhu+~ng la~ lo+i
 > 	Ngo^`i nghie^ng gia'ng ngo.c ro+i nghi`n suo^'i manh
 >
 > 	Nhu+~ng chie^'c la' lay tre^n ca`nh
 > 	Reo vui vo+'i na('ng o^m xanh pha va`ng
 > 	DDi dda^u gio+` ho+?i lang thang
 > 	Nga`y mo+ tro^? na('ng o+i mang mang ddo+`i
 >
 >
 >
 > Luong Nguyen-Duy
 >
 >

Trong ta la\ na('ng mu+a
Trong ta ro+.p bo^'n mu\a
Ngu+o+\i la\m co+n ba~o tho^?i
Nghi\n xu+a kho'c trong ta!

Maun

P.S.: Dda~ co' la^\n na\o ba'c Lu+o+ng le^n ddo^\i Tha^.p Tu+. o+? San Diego?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: "Tuan Tu  --UNMCVM(TUANTU)" <TUANTU%UNMCVM.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu>
Subject:      Ma nu*~ o*? Boston
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: @mitvma.mit.edu:TUANTU@UNMCVM.BITNET
Organization: N/A
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:02:37 GMT


Ta ho^m nay dda~ ve^` to*'i nha`.  Ma^'y con ma ca'c ngu*o*i o*? BU co' so^'
may ma('n la('m -do'.  vi` ta dda~ tu (chai) ne^n say ma^'t ca^`n ca^u ro^`i.
Do ddo' ta -da` tha to^.i cho ca'c ngu*o*i.  VA? la.i ta tha^'y ca'c ngu*o*i
chu*a dde^'n no^~i qua' dda'ng ne^n ta tha cho, chu*' ma` la^`n nu*~a cho.c
ta gia^.n thi` cho*' co' ma` tra'ch sao ta qua' a'c nghie^.t.  Gio`ng so^ng
Charles tho* mo^.ng la('m ca'c con ca' va`ng va` ma^'y con yak yak yak o*?
du*o*'i ddo', ne^'u ca'c ngu*o*i kho^ng la`m ddo^` nha^.u cho ma^'y thu*'
na`y thi` cha('c co' le~ se~ la`m ddo^` a(n ddie^?m ta^m cho con ca' ma^.p
(thu` lu`) va^.y.  Bie^'t chu*a???  Tha to^.i cho ca'c ngu*o*i -do'.  Mau
ddi ma` a(n na(n xa'm ho^'i ddi.  May ra co`n -da^`u thai la`m ma^'y con
la(ng qua(ng ddo'.


D.H.(C.V.)
From: vinsight@netcom.com (Vietnam Insight)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Amnesty Report of Political Prisoners in Vietnam
Date: 27 Jul 92 06:21:17 GMT
Reply-To: vinsight@netcom.com
Organization: N/A
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu



**************
AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL REPORT OF POLITICAL PRISONERS IN VIETNAM
**************

Summary of the June 1992 report titled "Vietnam: Arrests of Political
Prisoners, 1990-1991"

Amnesty International welcomed the release of around 100 political
prisoners in late 1991 and early 1992. Most of the prisoners released
were former military personnel associated with the pre-1975 government
of the Republic of Vietnam. However, it has continued to receive
disturbing reports of political arrests in Vietnam, including prisoners
of conscience, during 1990-1991.

Among those arrested or placed under house arrest were former
"re-education" camp detainees, Protestant pastors and religious lay
persons from tribal minorities who are members of unofficial "house
church" movements or "unregistered" Christian groups, writers and
journalists who are members and former members of the Communist Party of
Vietnam, and other critics of the government. Amnesty International
believes that most of them have been arrested for the peaceful
expression of their religious and political beliefs.

In November 1991, Minister of the Interior Bui Thien Ngo, in an article
on national security published in Tap Chi Quoc Phong Toan Dan (All
People's National Defense Journal) in Hanoi, reported that over the past
years "more than 10,000 criminals, including those who have committed
economic or political crimes and other serious violations, have turned
themselves in and confessed their wrongdoings."

Amnesty International notes with grave concern that the crime of "taking
actions to overthrow the people's government" specified in Article 73 of
the Vietnamese Criminal Code does not distinguish between armed or
violent acts which may pose a threat to national security and the
peaceful exercise of the rights of freedom of expression and
association. This is also true of other criminal offences specified in
Chapter I of the Vietnamese Criminal Code under the heading "especially
dangerous crimes against national security." This legislation defines a
range of peaceful activities as "crimes against the national security,"
and grants judicial authorities the power to convict and imprison
people, solely on the basis of real or imputed nonviolent beliefs or
activities.

Amnesty International appeals to the government to uphold the right to
freedom of expression, the right to freedom of association and the right
to freedom of thought, conscience and religion and to release
immediately all those confined solely for the nonviolent exercise of
these rights. These rights are guaranteed by international human rights
agreements particularly Articles 18, 19 and 22 of the International
Covenant on Civil and Political Rights of which the Socialist Republic
of Vietnam is a state party.


-- 
Vietnam Insight (vinsight@netcom.com)
Chan Tran, editor
From: irwin@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Irwin David)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Questionnaire/Survey
Date: 30 Jul 92 04:56:34 GMT
Distribution: qc
Organization: Universite de Montreal



To whom it may concern,


In order to complete a Ph.D. dissertation in the field of political science 
I must verify a certain number of propositions. To do so, I must gather data.
To gather data I must ask people to fill a questionnaire.

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If you wish to receive a copy of the questionnaire or further details, please 
send me a message or provide me with a postal address. You should expect the
questionnaire to arrive via Canada Post within the week. 

P.S. Thank you to those who have already accepted to participate in the
study.

Regards.

David H. Irwin

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David H. Irwin				E-mail: irwin@ere.umontreal.ca
University of Montreal
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: Duc Vu <duc@peaceman.sps.mot.com>
Subject: [MISC]  Computer Text Books
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: duc@peaceman.sps.mot.com
Organization: N/A
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:25:29 GMT



Hi,

A friend of mine asked me to recommand computer text books
(in Vietnamese) for beginner.  I have no idea of what kind
of books do they have in Vietname.  So, If anyone have any
idea about any of those computer text books please let me
know so I can forward your info to him.  Thanks.

Regards,

Duc
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: phuong@cco.caltech.edu (Phuong Nguyen (VSA))
Subject: [poem] tu*o*ng tu* tha?o ...
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: phuong@cco.caltech.edu
Organization: N/A
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:18:50 GMT


Hi there ....

Co' ba`i tho* na`y, xin ddu*o*.c  mu*o*.n go*?i dde^'n ca'c ba.n,
nha^'t la` .... ki' ng` hay say ddo' , nhu*ng ma` say thuo^'c hay say
gi` thi` kho^ng bie^'t nu*~a ;-)

-Me-

Tu*o*ng tu* tha?o

Na`ng cho ta nhu'm tu*o*ng tu* tha?o
Va` da(.n mo^~i chie^`u xuo^'ng nho*' nhung
DDo^'t co? tu*o*ng tu* ba(`ng lu*?a a?o
Ho^`n bay theo kho'i dde.p vo^ cu`ng ...

Lu'c a^'y ddo^i lo`ng ddi da.o cho*i
Qua ddu*o*`ng na('ng chie^'u lo^'i tra(ng soi
DDa^y do`ng so^ng mo^.ng con thuye^`n lu*o*'t
Ti`nh ngo*~ ddang na(`m trong chie^'c no^i ...

Chi'n va.n hu*o*ng tho*m toa? nga.t nga`o
Quanh to^i dda^`y ra^?y nhu*~ng chie^m bao
Vo*'i tay ha'i mo^.t chu`m hoa phu*o*.ng
Chu*a ddu? vi` chu*ng va^~n kha't khao ...

Nga^?n ngo* ddu*'ng giu*~a khung tro*`i la.
To^i la.c va`op ru*`ng mo* ra^'t mo*
Ngu? tro. ma`n ca^y cha(n x'ac la'
Tha^'y mi`nh kha'c ha(?n tha'ng na(m xu*a ...

DDo' lu'c ho^`n to^i theo kho'i bay
Le^n cao ho^`n cu~ng hoa' la`m ma^y
Tha`nh mu*a ro*i xuo^'ng nho`a thu*o*ng nho*'
Tha^'y du*.a vai na`ng tay kie^'m tay ...

D.A.