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From: joneswd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (William D. Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: HELP! Printing to file
Date: 16 Nov 92 02:07:55 GMT
Reply-To: joneswd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (William D. Jones)
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
NNTP-Posting-Host: o231-12.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu


 I'm trying to print to a postscript file so I can then
> move the file to a system which has a postscript printer.
> 
> As I understood it, all I needed to do was to change
> the printer in the Preferences to a postscript printer,
> then when I clicked on print it would print to a file....
> 
> Working under that assumption, I removed my existing 
> printer (no problem), then installed the new printer
> "postscript compatible".  At that point the system
> displays an error window saying it cannot write to
> disk and to enter R for retry or A for abort.  R and
> A don't work, neither does F3.  The system locks.
> I have repeated this scenario many times.  Different
> ps printers, same result. I've run setup, same result.
> I can certainly write to disk outside of geoworks pro.

I was having something of the same problem.  What I did was reinstall the  
printer hooked up to my computer, then installed the Postscript driver.  I  
believe that it might have something to do with the fact that Geoworks  
likes to test a printer that is actually hooked up to your computer,  
however I could be totally off base with that assumption.  In any case, in  
your printer options have a least one of the printers listed hooked to  
your computer.  That cured my problems.  Then when you go to print all you  
have to do in change the printer in the print window that pops up.

Hope this helps,

Me
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
From: shawmd@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Michael D Shaw)
Subject: Re: COMDEX INFO on GEOS???
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 22:08:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.210019.26416@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>, johnm@cory.Berkeley.EDU (John D. Mitchell) writes:
> In article <1992Nov22.012435.11065@netcom.com> bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:
> >I was at Comdex for four days.  I saw no mention of Geoworks anywhere.
> >This is sad.  It's a great set of programs.
> 
> GeoWorks was definitely at Comdex.  Sorry you missed the booth.  With the
> incredibly spread out show it can be easy to miss anybody but the big guys.
> :-(
> 
> John
> johnm@cory.Berkeley.EDU
> 

Well John, how about any address where I might write to so that I might be able
to get some of the COMDEX info on GEOS 2.0, SDK, etc.?  If I just need to write
to the address on the box that would be fine, any pointing in the right 
direction without giving up company secrets would be gratly appreciated.  :)

Thanks,

Mike Shaw
shawmd@gn.ecn.purdue.edu
From: teddy@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Teddy Iglehart [Ted E. Bear])
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: expanding internet geos banks
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:27:17 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin; Austin, Texas

I would like to know if anyone living in the
804 area code would be willing to call the
Panther BBS and pull their large collection
of GeoWorks files to the internet file banks?

There are several Fido boards around the 
country that have very large GeoWorks
collections compared to what has been uploaded
to the internet.  I have a high speed modem
but haven't been able to find a BBS in my
area with as great of a collection or I would
have increased the internet collection by now.

So, If someone knows of one of these boards
or could they please help out?  Otherwise
I will get the files little by little over to
the internet.
From: jburns@infamy.West.Sun.COM (John R. Burns - Sun Sacramento SE)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: GeoWorks: hardware/software recommendations ??
Date: 17 Nov 1992 01:27:02 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: infamy.west.sun.com
Keywords: geoworks third-party hardware software

Hope someone can point me in the right direction.

I'd like to purchase a cartridge tape backup and, eventually, a CD-ROM
for my 386DX-33 system.  I'm also interested in virus scan and disk
defragmentation software.

I want to continue to use GeoWorks Pro and plan to upgrade to 2.0 when
it is available.  I'm relatively new to the MS-DOS environment but I
am extremely reluctant to move to Windows.  I want something that
will work WITH GeoWorks.

Is there a list of third-party hardware and software that is known to be
compatible with GeoWorks?

Does GeoWorks have a catalogue of complementary products?


thanks,
john

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
From: slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: CLOCK colours and GEOS file base
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:24:09 GMT

I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet, so I may be repeating it, 
but...
 
I noticed while screwing around with the CLOCK that if you 
double-click the CLOCK's face you're given a menu with which you can 
customize the CLOCK's colours.
 
However, you can't adjust the backgroud colour even though it's an 
option on the menu -- and there doesn't seem to be a way to save your 
custom colours.
 

Also, someone mentioned a couple days ago that there are more GEOS 
file available on other BBSes and networks -- so how about it?  Does
anyone have access to these file-bases?
 
Is it possible that these GEOS files are for c64 GEOS and not PC/GEOS?
 
Stephen Legge
SLEGGE@kean.ucs.mun.ca
From: ted@helios.UCSC.EDU (Ted Cantrall)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: future of geoworks
Date: 20 Nov 1992 17:05:37 GMT
Organization: UCO/Lick Observatory
NNTP-Posting-Host: helios.ucsc.edu

The most disturbing news I've heard about Geoworks is that they think the
future of PC/Geos is in pen computing, and that they will put a lot of
resources into developing for that kind of environment at the expense of
the DOS environment. If they do that, I fear for the survival of the
company as I don't think pen computing will ever become a very large
market and not even a good market for several years. On the other hand,
the desktop DOS environment is here now in the millions and many of us
desk-toppers can't stand windows. 

I hope what I've heard about the priorities at Geoworks is wrong and that
they will continue to develope for the market that's here, now.

Does anyone know the number of PC/Geos packages shipped or sold?

				-ted-

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From: joneswd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (William D. Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: pcgeos under NeXT SoftPC ???
Date: 16 Nov 1992 02:22:13 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Reply-To: joneswd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (William D. Jones)
NNTP-Posting-Host: o231-12.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu


> 	So is it possible to run GEOS under SoftPC for NeXT?
> 
> 	According to the propaganda on the SoftPC box,  the 
> performance of SoftPC is comparable to that of a 286@10Mhz.
> EGA graphics, extended/expanded memory capabilities.i]iqhm..
> I have heard that graphic programs execute VERY slowly under
> SoftPC, but GEOS is one snappy piece of software!
> 
> 	If GEOS did run under UNIX SoftPCs, perhaps you could
> use some variation on Geoworks inhouse UNIX-based development tools,
> and test your GEOS programs on a virtual PC.  That would be really cool.
> This is obviously just speculation.

I use a NeXT every day, as a matter of fact, that is how I read and post  
to this group.  (That's right, I'm typing on one right now.)  From what I  
know about SoftPC and GEOS, there is no way it will run on the NeXT.   
Geoworks is a little to picky about memory locations and device drivers to  
let itself be run under a software PC emulation.  I could be wrong about  
this, but I don't think so.  I don't have access to a personal NeXT to try  
it out on (all of ours are NeXTworked together), but I'd love to hear  
ofany successful results. 

Hope this helps,

Me 
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
From: johnm@cory.Berkeley.EDU (John D. Mitchell)
Subject: Re: COMDEX INFO on GEOS???
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:25:11 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.215737.10655@netcom.com> bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker)
writes:
>I just looked it up.  Geoworks was in a room, not a booth.
>Sorry I missed it.

Oops.  I thought they had gotten a booth too. Caveat Workor? :-)

Sigh,
	John
From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: GeoWorks: hardware/software recommendations ??
Keywords: geoworks third-party hardware software
Date: 17 Nov 92 05:24:03 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Digest

jburns@infamy.West.Sun.COM (John R. Burns - Sun Sacramento SE) writes:

>I'd like to purchase a cartridge tape backup and, eventually, a CD-ROM
>for my 386DX-33 system.  I'm also interested in virus scan and disk
>defragmentation software.

>I want to continue to use GeoWorks Pro and plan to upgrade to 2.0 when
>it is available.  I'm relatively new to the MS-DOS environment but I
>am extremely reluctant to move to Windows.  I want something that
>will work WITH GeoWorks.

Tape backup - no idea yet, you'd have to go with a DOS product or wait for 
2.0, which will have third-party support, and see what sort of tape
software is available for it.

CD-ROM - TigerSoftware offers the NEC CD-Express package, which is a CD-ROM
drive packaged with Geoworks CD-ROM manager software.  [Neat idea!]  It's
got some other stuff in it too.

Virus Scan - use DOS product or wait for 2.0

Disk Defrag - ditto.  I'd say wait for 2.0, 'cos I don't know how kindly
Geoworks takes to being defragged.

2.0 shouldn't be more'n 4 months away, according to the FAQ.  I'm looking
forward to it, quite strongly.

-Shag

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From: a036450@rd821.UUCP (Bob Goldrich)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: What's with SDK and 2.0?
Date: 19 Nov 92 13:56:42 GMT
Organization: The Gleason Works, Rochester New York
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Has anybody heard when they are projecting to ship Geoworks 2.0?  How 
about the SDK?

              Bob Goldrich   a036450@rd821.gleason.com
From: harvey_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Math co-pros
Date: 22 Nov 1992 00:09:43 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Reply-To: harvey_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Does anyone know what, if any, use GEOS makes of a math co-processor?  Does it
speed up the programs...
Does GEOS use the ability of the math co-processor to multitask with the main
CPU (ie - do different things on them at the same time?). 
I would hope it at least means that you save memory by not loading it's own
floating point functions.

I wonder what would happen if you specified GEOS as the shell in your
config.sys?  that would make GW almost 'bootable'.....   I once tried that with
GEM, but it ran into problems if you tried to launch a batch file (couldn't
find command.com.)   So long as you had no important TSRs loaded I spose it
would work.....

| Adrian Harvey       (Harvey_A@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz)|
|             Windows?  Just say NO!               |
From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: lines in imported picts
Date: 16 Nov 92 08:16:22 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Digest

rgt@kepler.unh.edu (Richard G Tomasso) writes:

>A friend of mine recently scanned in a picture and then imported it to
>Geoworks. The image showed up fine in Geodraw to start, but when he
>shrank the image down, lines started to delevop in it. They were an
>evenly spaced grid, like an overlay pattern.

This will always happen if you use GeoDraw's scaling after importing an
image.  As far as I can tell, it occurs 'cos GeoDraw isn't using a complex
scaling algorithm like most image-manipulation programs.  [The kind that
looks at what colors are next to each other, and decides what to do]

The best way to avoid this is to scale things before you import them.  I
think there's a program called Graphics WorkShop that lets you do this.

-Shag
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From: gnd@idaho.amdahl.com (Greg Darnell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: future of geoworks
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:41:40 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corp., Rexburg, ID

Much as I like geoworks, my opinion is that it will fade away into
oblivion much like Digital Research's GEM.  The similarities are
amazing - a technically advanced product, an operating environment
with a few medium-strength applications, no third-party support
(yes I know it's "coming", but you can't live on vapor forever),
produced by a corporate David competing with Goliath. 

Geoworks' major problems are market momentum for Windows, lack of
marketing skill, and lack of third-party support.  Witness the lack
of a booth at COMDEX as evidence of their lack of marketing savvy 
- I don't care if they had nothing new to show, at least get the
name and product out where people will see it!  Third-party applications
late in the game, such as Ventura Publisher including the GEM 
environment with their product, don't appear to help the product
too much either.

I hope I'm proven wrong, but that's the way I see it.  I would guess
that after version 2.0 has come out, this newsgroup will have a whole
new set of readers.  The diehard geonuts will have long since given
up on ever seeing version 2 and gone to an environment that is well-
supported by commercial products and shareware; the new readers will
be people introduced to geoworks for the first time as version 2.

Greg

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	reflect the opinions or policies of Amdahl Corp.

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From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: CLOCK colours and GEOS file base
Date: 18 Nov 92 13:23:21 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Digest

slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes:

>I noticed while screwing around with the CLOCK that if you 
>double-click the CLOCK's face you're given a menu with which you can 
>customize the CLOCK's colours.
>However, you can't adjust the backgroud colour even though it's an 
>option on the menu 

Quite a while ago, there was a patch posted for the clock, that let you
change the file with a hex editor and fixed a couple omissions.  That was
one of them, I think. I don't think I still have the instructions around
for it, though - maybe Rudi does?

[I only did the hex-editing to fix the other bug, I didn't care about the
background all that much]

-Shag
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From: fadickey@sacam.OREN.ORTN.EDU (Fred A Dickey)
Subject: Re: future of geoworks
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:31:15 GMT

Well, I think that GEOS definetly has a long life to look forward to. 
Look how long DOS has lived? :-)  I think it will be in widespread use
within the next few years.  I think that over the next few years the PC
market will be running three major OS's:  GEOS, OS/2 and Windows NT.  An
object oriented OS is definetly the way to go...and with the Generic UI
concept, GEOS might have quite a bag of tricks for programmers to take
advantage of.  I would love to wright a few programs for GEOS, and I don't
have a '386+ and not all that experienced with C...but I've done a lot of
programming in other languages....heck, I might just get a new 486 just so
that I can run SWAT (the GEOS SDK debugger).

I think a lot of third party companies will be developing for/porting to
GEOS.  Windows got a lot of publicity when it was first released...almost
all of the publicity was bad at first.  GEOS hasn't had near as much
coverage, and what little it has had...the worst thing that they've said
is that it lacks third party support.  I remember something very similair
used to be said about Windows.  Of course, MS had mucho money and pushed
Windows like it was a bad drug....giving it away on every system sold. 
Then selling decent software for Windows later after a large base of
people had it installed on their systems.  With GEOS, everyone has to hunt
through all the software stores and track it down, fork out money for it,
and that's if they've even heard of it.  Yet, it has become quite popular
despite the fact that it doesn't have much third party support yet.  Would
Windows still be here had it been released and sold under these
conditions?  I think once the SDK gets out, 2.0 is released, the media
won't be able to ignore it and neither will PC users.

,Spock

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From: rgt@kepler.unh.edu (Richard G Tomasso)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: lines in imported picts
Date: 16 Nov 1992 00:56:40 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

A friend of mine recently scanned in a picture and then imported it to
Geoworks. The image showed up fine in Geodraw to start, but when he
shrank the image down, lines started to delevop in it. They were an
evenly spaced grid, like an overlay pattern.
The image was scanned is as TIFF, converted to PCX, then imported.
Does anyone have any ideas on why the lines showed up?
Or how to fix the problem?

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
From: johnm@cory.Berkeley.EDU (John D. Mitchell)
Subject: Re: future of geoworks
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:31:21 GMT

In article <1ej5t2INNdhg@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> ted@helios.UCSC.EDU (Ted Cantrall) writes:
>The most disturbing news I've heard about Geoworks is that they think the
>future of PC/Geos is in pen computing, and that they will put a lot of
>resources into developing for that kind of environment at the expense of
>the DOS environment. If they do that, I fear for the survival of the
>company as I don't think pen computing will ever become a very large
>market and not even a good market for several years. On the other hand,
>the desktop DOS environment is here now in the millions and many of us
>desk-toppers can't stand windows.

Not quite.  Nothing that has been done to GEOS to make it support really
small systems (including pen and/or keyboards) has had any detrimental
effect on any part of the system.  If anything I'd say that's it's improved
a bunch of areas because that had to be looked at from a different
perspective.  Think about it... If GeoWorks can make their software run
well on severly resource constrained systems ala palmtops then at least
some of that will carry over into increase features/performance/etc. on the
desktop.  Think about it from the ISV point of view... If I (Julie ISV) can
write a single library/application that runs *without
change/recompile/recoding/etc.* on machines that span the spectrum from AA
battery powered PDA's through laptops and low end desktop machines up to
the very latest screaming workstation class PC then that certainly seems
very attractive (and, lucrative :-) (and yes I understand quite clearly
that until GeoWorks delivers the SDK a lot of this potential is just
vaporware :-( ).

Thanks,
	John
	johnm@cory.Berkeley.EDU

P.S.	@include <Disclaimers/Employee>	/* GeoWorks speaks for itself.	*/
From: joneswd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (William D. Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: pcgeos under NeXT SoftPC ???
Date: 16 Nov 1992 02:21:08 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Reply-To: joneswd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (William D. Jones)
NNTP-Posting-Host: o231-12.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

> 	So is it possible to run GEOS under SoftPC for NeXT?
> 
> 	According to the propaganda on the SoftPC box,  the 
> performance of SoftPC is comparable to that of a 286@10Mhz.
> EGA graphics, extended/expanded memory capabilities.i]iqhm..
> I have heard that graphic programs execute VERY slowly under
> SoftPC, but GEOS is one snappy piece of software!
> 
> 	If GEOS did run under UNIX SoftPCs, perhaps you could
> use some variation on Geoworks inhouse UNIX-based development tools,
> and test your GEOS programs on a virtual PC.  That would be really cool.
> This is obviously just speculation.

I use a NeXT every day, as a matter of fact, that is how I read and post  
to this group.  (That's right, I'm typing on one right now.)  From what I  
know about SoftPC and GEOS, there is no way it will run on the NeXT.   
Geoworks is a little to picky about memory locations and device drivers to  
let itself be run under a software PC emulation.  I could be wrong about  
this, but I don't think so.  I don't have access to a personal NeXT to try  
it out on (all of ours are NeXTworked together), but I'd love to hear  
ofany successful results. 

Hope this helps,

Me
From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
Subject: Re: COMDEX INFO on GEOS???
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:02:48 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Digest

johnm@cory.Berkeley.EDU (John D. Mitchell) writes:

>Since there was no public booth at Comdex, it's fair to assume there was
>little or no *new* *public* information given out.  Whatever was talked
>about and/or shown in the private suite was clearly placed under the terms
>of a non-disclosure contract so I don't think that a whole lot will come
>out.

Um... I didn't think anyone had said that the "room" GeoWorks had was a
"private suite" per se.  I've been to some smaller shows on the east coast
(most notably the Trenton Computer Fair, which I want to see GeoWorks at
in '93! ;) which is held at a college... IBM had commandeered an entire room
in one of the buildings to show off slOwS/2 this past spring, and was, well,
being _very_ public about it.  Might GeoWorks have had a _public_ room at 
Comdex, or don't they do that there?  (I've never been to Comdex)

-Shag

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