HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: femanrs@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (BRUCE MANNERS)
Subject: Fergie Props
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  8 Apr 1992 09:32 EST  


I remember someone on the NET asking for the address of Fergie Props. (The 
maker of the Fergie Bean Bags)  Well here it is:


		Fergie Props
		2335 Niles Ave
		St. Joseph, Michigan 49085
 		
Well I hope this helps...

		(If nothing else I bet it helps Fergie Props...)


Bruce Manners
From: miguel@aclcb.purdue.edu (PHILLIP_SANMIGUEL)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Festival "Glut"
Date: 13 Apr 92 01:27:06 GMT
Reply-To: miguel@aclcb.purdue.edu
Organization: Purdue University AIDS Center


  "Glut" is an unpleasant word, so I should refer to the "juggler shortage" 
that I've seen occur over the last few years.  Absolute numbers of jugglers 
have remained the same or increased somewhat but new festivals are popping 
up all over the place here in the mid-west.  Even such well-entrenched mid 
west fests, such as Ann Arbor and Ft. Wayne (see my other post) have 
suffered declining attendance.  Ann Arbor over the past two years  and Ft. 
Wayne this year.  Akron's attendance also decline this year, I believe.
  Just this year Madison, Wisconsin held their first fest.  Bloomington, IN;
Dayton, OH; and Eastern Illinois University (Charleston, IL) have all 
been around but 2 years.  
  I'm roguish enough to suggest that the older fests may have gotten a 
little fat and lazy over the years.  "Fat" especially in the registration 
fee department.  Ann Arbor runs $15-$20 and Ft. Wayne $20 (though the 
latter include a t-shirt).  While this is pretty much a pittance, it seems 
to matter to many I've talked to and I think they expect more for their 
money.  Especially with fests like Dayton (with their top rate facillity, 
the Kettering Rec Center) and EIU, who brought Mark Nizer to their first 
fest and Andy Head to their second.  Who knows what Bloomington will do 
at their Halloween Fest with the elephant bucks they've sweated all year 
to earn?  
  All fests have their high and low points but with an increasing 
population of conventions here in the mid-west and a limited pool of 
jugglers to draw from the older fests are going to have to tighten their 
belts and gird up their loins or turn in the towel.


                                    _            _
__________________________  _      (_)  ________(_)________________________
Phillip SanMiguel        _/  \     /  \  Purdue University Juggling Club
miguel@aclcb.purdue.edu (_)   \   /    |   *Juggling*Unicycling*COMBAT*
         _               |      x    _ | Box 616 Stewart Center
________(_)______________ \_ _ / \ _(_) _West_Lafayette,_Indiana__47907____
From: 3024suzy@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Susan Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: renegade address, and madman
Date: 13 Apr 92 07:06:43 GMT


Renegade's address is:
p.o. box 406
Santa Cruz, CA  95061-0406

phone:  (408) 426-7343
From: arthurc@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Arthur Chandler)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Juggling prejudice?
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:56:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: csus.1992Apr9.225610.17185
Organization: California State University, Sacramento


  Am I just imagining it, or is there a prejudice amongst jugglers
against multiplex juggling? 
   "How many can you juggle?"
   "I can do five with multiplexing."
   "Oh yeah.. but how many can you *really* juggle?"
    There's no question that doing a Mill's Mess with four balls is
easier if you multiplex it; but why see it only in that way? It *looks*
different, requires a different set of moves, and is a trick all its
own. Is there some feeling that multiplex somehow looks.... inelegant?
Or that it's... cheating? And wouldn't all the posters of "I can do ten
or eleven balls" notices here sneer if someone bounced up and said, "I
do ten multiplex!"?
    What do you (we) think?
From: mertes@vax.sonoma.edu
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: not airflite- number clubs sorry!
Summary: clubs
Date: 10 Apr 92 04:22:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: vax.1992Apr10.122229.1
Organization: Sonoma State University

okay, not "AIRFLITE" I am looking for numbers clubs, I have not 
looked at DUBES' catalog in a long time, i was thinking that his 
airflites were numbers clubs. I am looking for numbers clubs, 
according to the catalog I have they are $25 a piece, though this may 
have changed recently.. if anyone has info on this please post me..
thnks

not one, not two, but three four, five, six, and seven. 
I will be in a rubber room when I am 40 doing this,,,, aaaaaaaaaaa

madman

mertes@sonoma.edu
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: duane@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Duane Starcher)
Subject: French juggler to Tokyo
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 12:43:44 GMT

	A chap in Lyon, France contacted me about the net, but can't get
access.  He will be travelling soon to Tokyo and would like to learn of
other jugglers there.  If you have information for him, write directly
to:
		wilhelm@cc.ec-lyon.fr

duane@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
From: tfarring@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Rusty D. Dude)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Address list?
Keywords: multiplexing
Date: 11 Apr 92 01:29:47 GMT
Organization: Lunatic Jugglers


Could someone post an address list of juggling prop manufacturers and sellers?
Also, what is multiplexing?
Thanks
Tim



--
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* tfarring@eniac.seas.upenn.edu ' duck!					  *
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From: zlsiimw@mcchpc.mcc.ac.uk (Mark Whidby)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Address list?
Keywords: multiplexing
Date: 14 Apr 92 07:52:05 GMT
Reply-To: M.Whidby@mcc.ac.uk
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <73667@netnews.upenn.edu>, tfarring@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Rusty D. Dude) writes:
|> 
|> Could someone post an address list of juggling prop manufacturers and sellers?

Thers's a list available via anonymous ftp on piggy.cogsci.indiana.edu
in /pub/juggling/info/vendors.

-- 
_____________________________________________________________
Mark Whidby, Distributed Systems, Manchester Computing Centre
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: Chris Wright <STA5CW@lucs-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: One-armed juggler.
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:32:42 GMT
X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v2.1c R5.
Via: sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk; Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:31:11 +0100

I came across a one armed juggler a couple of times- the first time,
I saw him at the European juggling convention in Bradford in 1988,
then at a small one day convention in London. I passed with him (four
clubs I think- I think five would have been quite easy, but I wasn't
very good at the time). He could do three balls no problem, and four
for a short time, and I remember him doing three clubs also. I think
there's plenty of good stuff can be done with just one arm-  three in
one hand is a very aesthetically pleasing pattern, and he had a few
nice tricks, e.g. throw one high, juggle two underneath. I enjoy
juggling one handed myself, when I'm suffering from tendonitis, which
seems to be most of the time these days.

        Chris Wright, England.
From: STA5CW@lucs-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk (Chris Wright)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Injuries.
Date: 11 Apr 92 14:01:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: lucs-01.MAILQUEUE-99.920411140118.416
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v2.1c R5.
Via: sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk; Sat, 11 Apr 1992 13:57:36 +0100

I, too, have had some trouble with injuries- in this case, tendonitis
of the left tricep. This arose from attempting things like 3 balls in
my left hand, which was not strong enough to cope with it.
    The tendonitis comes and goes, and does not seem to be aggravated
by most things such as three-, four- or even five-ball juggling.
However, I always seem to end up doing something stupid which brings
it back on. I think (and my doctor agrees) that rest and very gentle
exercise will heal it permanently. So I would agree wholeheartedly
with the person who advocates warming up before doing any juggling.
      Look after yourselves!

                        Chris Wright, Leeds, England.
From: Lindsay L. Bagnall, Asst. Dir. Alumni/Const Rel.
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: One-arm juggler
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:34:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: UMRVMB.920414.083451.CDT.C2873LLB
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
X-Acknowledge-To: <C2873LLB@UMRVMB>

Debbie and others:

The one-arm juggler in question is probably Dale Jones, of St. Louis.  He
is pretty good, and uses comedy in his act.  There are probably others
out there who have seen his show more than I have - I have mostly just
seen him in practice with the St. Louis jugglers.

Lindsay Bagnall
Rolla, MO
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: duane@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Duane Starcher)
Subject: Re: looking for IJA address?
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 12:28:53 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.172300.1@vax.sonoma.edu> mertes@vax.sonoma.edu writes:
>Hey can anyone post me the IJA address so I can drop them a line, and sucsribe.
>I used to be, but that was a while ago. Oh everything in my life was 
>a while ago... anyway, I would appreciate it very much.... thanks
>
>madman
>
>mertes@sonoma.edu
>

	IJA
	PO Box 3707
	Akron, OH  44314
From: mccaugha@cetus5a.cs.utk.edu (William Douglas ( Doug ) - The Juggler ( me ) McCaughan)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: tendonitis
Date: 10 Apr 92 01:59:35 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, University of Tennesee, Knoxville
Distribution: world
Reply-To: mccaugha@cetus5a.cs.utk.edu (William Douglas ( Doug ) - The Juggler ( me ) McCaughan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: cetus5a.cs.utk.edu
Keywords: injury, wrist

In article <1992Apr8.102447.27162@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>, fulton@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (Ben Fulton) writes:
[description deleted..]
|> If you're thinking about going to a doctor for wrist pain, my advice would
|> be:  Don't.  Save the money and be sensible to your wrists.  Stretch before
|> using them heavily, wear braces, take over-the-counter painkillers.  
|> Basically, the doctor I went to said if the pain doesn't keep you up at 
|> night, it's probably not too serious.
|> 
|> Keep your balls in the air,
|> 
|> ben
|> fulton@copper.ucs.indiana.edu
|> right here, right now
|> there is no other place I'd rather be!

Message therapy would probably help much here. A friend of mine was
diagnosed with Carpal Tunnel Syndrome and told she would need some
expensive operation. She fixed the situation with message therapy.
-- 
...doug <mccaugha@cs.utk.edu> USA    | The past 22 years have been a |
                                     | helluva trip, but honestly, I |
                                     | am ready to come down now...  |
From: IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Tendonitis
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:07:01 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University


mccaugha@cetus5a.cs.utk.edu (William Douglas ( Doug ) - The Juggler ( me )
>Message therapy would probably help much here. A friend of mine was
>diagnosed with Carpal Tunnel Syndrome and told she would need some
>expensive operation. She fixed the situation with message therapy.

Does email count as message therapy? :)
From: jr@ksr.com (John Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: one-arm juggler
Date: 14 Apr 92 11:09:20 EDT
Organization: Kendall Square Research, Waltham, MA
In-reply-to: STU_DAKEEFE@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU's message of 13 Apr 92 23:24:00 EDT

In article <01GITCC828O095N5U8@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU> STU_DAKEEFE@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU (Debonovitch) writes:

   Does anybody know anything about a one-arm juggler?  A friend of mine
   read an article in People magazine (I think) about him recently.

One-armed juggler Dale Jones is profiled in the current Juggler's
World.  He competed in the IJA Seniors (old name for Nationals) at the
Cleveland convention in 1981, and caused yet another controversy for
the judges.  After multiplex, one-arm, no-golds, it is a wonder that
the IJA ever gets volunteers to judge.
--
/jr, aka John Robinson                       Place stamps here
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From: Ben Fulton <fulton@copper.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: tendonitis
Keywords: injury, wrist
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 09:55:24 -0500

In <1992Apr16.212533.2417683@locus.com> richard@locus.com (Richard M. Mathews) writes:

>In the case above, maybe a doctor wasn't necessary.  I have heard other
>sufferers of tendonitis and carpal tunnel syndrome who have said things
>along the lines of "I wish I had listened to my body and gone to a doctor
>sooner rather than ignoring the problem -- it never would have gotten so
>bad."

I'll agree with this.  What I did was say, "Boy, my wrists are hurting.
I wonder if it's something serious?  I'd better go to a doctor and check.",
because just possibly it could have been something serious, like a broken bone.
From my research on wrist injuries, I had ruled out CTS and had self-diagnosed
tendinitis.

If I had listened to my body, I wouldn't have gone, because I didn't really
think it was serious.

ben
fulton@copper.ucs.indiana.edu
right here, right now
there is no other place I'd rather be!
From: nextug@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Karamazovs and Multiplexing History
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:35:53 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In 1981 I was living and juggling in London, England. At that
time the Flying Karamazov's were in town performing for an
extended stint at the May Fair Theatre. A group of us jugglers
who used to rehearse at the Pineapple in Covent Garden (Tim Bat,
Lloyd Timberlake, Dave Spathaky, etc.) got together and juggled
with them a number of times. In fact, I really learned to pass
with them at a workshop which they ran somewhere off Covent
Garden Market (my memory fails me). Having seen their jazz
club passing rountine I was inspired and it was great to learn
from the masters themselves.
	In any event they had been to the IJA convention in Eugene
in 1978 and had seen Lheith do his seven ball multiplexin. 
One of them (maybe Tim Furst or Howard Patterson) could do a
solid six ball split multiplex. A few of us had been doing
some multiplexing before that although, if I recall, correctly
this was the first time any of us had seen split multiplexes.
They spoke with admiration about how good Lheith's 7 ball
split multiplex was. Anyone out there know what his full
name was and what he's doing now? Nine ball split multiplexes
perhaps ...?
	Cheers!
	Christopher Majka
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: jcl4@cec1.wustl.edu (Jeffrey C Lerman)
Subject: beanbag vendors?
Summary: where to find beanbags, esp. for #s juggling?
Keywords: supplies vendors beanbags
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:58:59 GMT


I am interested in purchasing beanbags suitable for numbers juggling
(i.e., <4).  I am particularly intersted in spherical (well, more or less)
fairly tightly packed beanbags that aren't too large.  Does anyone know
the names and/or addresses of vendors who might carry beanbags like that?
It shouldn't be a terribly difficult thing to find; I've seen several variation
around, but I don't know of any vendors who seem to have what I want.
Thanks in advance!

--Jeff Lerman  (student, Washington University, St. Louis) 314-935-1539
	jcl4@cec1.wustl.edu
From: ecarsten@next1.cs.umr.edu (Edward Carstens)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Mixing siteswap patterns.
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:47:52 GMT

In article <92094.103343CDW10@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK> CDW10@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK writes:

> Permutation:    3  4  5  6  7  ?  ? 13  8 15 10 17 12 19 14 ...
> Numbers    :... 3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 ...
>                ---------------------------------------------
> Variation  :... 0  0  0  0  0  ?  ?  3 -3  3 -3  3 -3  3 -3 ...
> Balls      :... 4  4  4  4  4  4  4  4  4  4  4  4  4  4  4 ...
>                ---------------------------------------------
> Pattern    :... 4  4  4  4  4  ?  ?  7  1  7  1  7  1  7  1 ...
> 
> The technique can be used to change minimally between any set of site
> swaps.  This technique is the climax of the popular maths lecture I
> give here in the UK.

It's nice to see someone else is doing juggling mathematics.  This notation is  
really a subset of multi-hand notation since it only requires one row (one  
hand).  In MHN, I call your permutation the positional form of the pattern.   
The string of numbers is called the zero-permutation matrix (in this case it  
has but one row).  When I subtract the zero-permutation matrix from the  
positional form of the pattern matrix I get the relative form of the matrix  
which you call the variation.  Some time ago I attempted to develop a scheme  
similar to yours for finding the startup and endup sequences.  I didn't  
succeed, but Jack Boyce must have succeeded in this endeavor because his J2  
generator includes startup and endup sequences for ANY pattern (this includes  
more than 2 hands, simultaneous, and multiplexing!).  If you are interested in  
learning MHN (the notation used in JugglePro), read MHN.DOC in the JugglePro  
directory on piggy located under programs/ibm-pc.  This is a short introduction  
to the notation and why it is so useful mathematically.

BTW, JugglePro 2.0 is done now!  I will give you downloading instructions just  
as soon as Terry moves it into the appropriate directory so stay tuned.

-Ed Carstens
Creator of JugglePro
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: mccaugha@duncan.cs.utk.edu (William Douglas ( Doug ) - The Juggler ( me ) McCaughan)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Festival "Glut"
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:54:20 GMT
Reply-To: mccaugha@duncan.cs.utk.edu (William Douglas ( Doug ) - The Juggler ( me ) McCaughan)
Organization: Computer Science Dept, University of Tennesee, Knoxville
NNTP-Posting-Host: duncan.cs.utk.edu

In article <45040@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, miguel@aclcb.purdue.edu (PHILLIP_SANMIGUEL) writes:
|> 
|>   "Glut" is an unpleasant word, so I should refer to the "juggler shortage" 
|> that I've seen occur over the last few years.  Absolute numbers of jugglers 
|> have remained the same or increased somewhat but new festivals are popping 
|> up all over the place here in the mid-west.  Even such well-entrenched mid 
|> west fests, such as Ann Arbor and Ft. Wayne (see my other post) have 
|> suffered declining attendance.  Ann Arbor over the past two years  and Ft. 
|> Wayne this year.  Akron's attendance also decline this year, I believe.

Fall back of the time is to blame it on the economy..

[other stuff and top line of sig deleted..]

|> Phillip SanMiguel        _/  \     /  \  Purdue University Juggling Club
|> miguel@aclcb.purdue.edu (_)   \   /    |   *Juggling*Unicycling*COMBAT*
|>          _               |      x    _ | Box 616 Stewart Center
|> ________(_)______________ \_ _ / \ _(_) _West_Lafayette,_Indiana__47907____   

-- 
...doug <mccaugha@cs.utk.edu> USA    | The past 22 years have been a |
                                     | helluva trip, but honestly, I |
                                     | am ready to come down now...  |
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: terry@piggy.cogsci.indiana.edu (terry jones)
Subject: Getting Jugglepro 2.0
Organization: Jugglers Anonymous
Distribution: rec
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:47:23


If you have ftp, tar and compress, you can get jugglepro version 2 by
simply grabbing pub/juggling/programs/ibm-pc/jugglepro.tar.Z

once you have retrieved that (it'a a binary file btw), you can unpack
it via

    uncompress jugglepro.tar.Z
    tar xfv jugglepro.tar

which will make you a directory called jugglepro that will have all
the necessary files in it.


for those of you who will be requesting the jugglepro files via mail,
there are uuencoded versions of all the files under
pub/juggling/programs/ibm-pc-uuencoded/jugglepro

send a "list" command to juggling-request@piggy to see what's
available. unfortunately, some of the files may be too big to be
mailed to some of you... we'll see. mail me with requests if things
don't work for you.

terry.
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: looking for IJA address?
From: mertes@vax.sonoma.edu
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:23:00 -0800
Organization: Sonoma State University

Hey can anyone post me the IJA address so I can drop them a line, and sucsribe.
I used to be, but that was a while ago. Oh everything in my life was 
a while ago... anyway, I would appreciate it very much.... thanks

madman

mertes@sonoma.edu
From: mccaugha@galoob.cs.utk.edu (William Douglas ( Doug ) - The Juggler ( me ) McCaughan)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Tendonitis
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:04:31 GMT
Reply-To: mccaugha@galoob.cs.utk.edu (William Douglas ( Doug ) - The Juggler ( me ) McCaughan)
Organization: Computer Science Dept, University of Tennesee, Knoxville
NNTP-Posting-Host: galoob.cs.utk.edu

In article <1992Apr10.220711.1381@news.cs.indiana.edu>, IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU writes:
|> 
|> mccaugha@cetus5a.cs.utk.edu (William Douglas ( Doug ) - The Juggler ( me )
|> >Message therapy would probably help much here. A friend of mine was
|> >diagnosed with Carpal Tunnel Syndrome and told she would need some
|> >expensive operation. She fixed the situation with message therapy.
|> 
|> Does email count as message therapy? :)

Well.. It is a little impersonal but I suppose that it would do :^)

(correction: message = massage) 

-- 
...doug <mccaugha@cs.utk.edu> USA    | The past 22 years have been a |
                                     | helluva trip, but honestly, I |
                                     | am ready to come down now...  |
From: bs26+@andrew.cmu.edu (Benjamin Rudd Schoenberg)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: one-arm juggler
Date: 14 Apr 92 12:55:21 GMT
Organization: Senior, Mathematics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

STU_DAKEEFE@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU (Debonovitch) writes:

>Does anybody know anything about a one-arm juggler?  A friend of mine
>read an article in People magazine (I think) about him recently.
> 
>Debbie Keefe
>JMU
 
I think his name is Dale Jones.  He's from St. Louis, and he performed
in the Public Show last summer there.  His other arm is there, but he
lost the use of it as a child.
   
"So I did the natural thing," he says, "I became a juggler!"
He did a good routine, which included an "eat the cabbage while juggling
it" trick.  He also does some good tennis racket racket stuff, including
a kick up from foot balance to chin balance!  I believe he performs full
time.  Anyone from St. Louis out there who knows?

-Ben
From: jr@ksr.com (John Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: jugging w/ flying K's
Date: 13 Apr 92 10:36:48 EDT
	<1992Apr9.203317.22258@serval.net.wsu.edu>
	<1992Apr10.170049.8632@uunet.uu.net>
Organization: Kendall Square Research, Waltham, MA
In-reply-to: lorelei@uunet.uu.net's message of 10 Apr 92 13:00:49 EDT

In article <1992Apr10.170049.8632@uunet.uu.net> lorelei@uunet.uu.net (Lorelei Horner) writes:
   In article <1992Apr9.203317.22258@serval.net.wsu.edu> efrie@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu writes:
   >Has anyone out there, juggled with the Flying Karamozov
   >Bro's?
   >
   >-eddie

   When they were in Burlington, VT. We juggled with them.
   They were real nice to us.

<warning - nostalgia follows>

Juggled with them at the 1978 Eugene convention.  As I was only
learning clubs at the time, the jazz feeds were the best way to
partake of the marvelous club-passing rush without even having a solid
cascade.  Hooked me good.  Funner than combat sez me.

My first clubs were Dube' one-piece Americans wrapped with handlebar
tape.  Seem kind of clunky now, but they are still great for swinging,
and they sure have held up!

<there, i feel better>
--
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