HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: markbr%radian@natinst.com (markbr)
Subject: Re: Halloween
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:00:57 GMT
Organization: Radian Cormp.

In article <9kDNsB2w165w@clubzen.fidonet.org!shakala> clubzen.fidonet.org!shakala!melchar writes:
>arsmith@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Alan Smith) writes:
>
>> In article <1992Oct13.172011.8775@radian.uucp> markbr%radian@natinst.com (mar
>> >Oh! Woad is me!
>> 
>> Is it me, or is everybody cracking the one-liners nowadays?
>> 
>> Big Al.  Who never writes anything funny.
>
>    No, it requires an official 'pun license' to crack one-liners here.  
>After all, you can't joke without a license ('use a pun, go to prison').
>
>Barbara Haddad - shakala!melchar@clubzen.fidonet.org 

HUMPH! I understand that as late as the early 19th century, the pun was 
considered the highest form of humor, requiring, as it does, a large
vocabulary. It's only in these days of degenerate language that those
whose verbal acuity exceeds that of Koko, the gorilla (who, according to 
report, has a vocbulary in ASL of 550 words, as opposed to the reported
average person's vocabulary of 500 words), that the pun is looked down upon.
Consider yourselves *pun*ished, punophobics! 

PUNSTERS OF THE WORLD, UNITE! 	You have nothing to lose but your height
(as you duck)

	Quack!

	mark
From: mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: SEXY PSYCHIC PLANTS
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:50:24 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

          

                               SEXY PSYCHIC PLANTS

          A humorous quote from "THE SECRET LIFE OF PLANTS", [See 
          Footnote.], by Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird, 1973, 
          page 38: 
          
          ....."As Sauvin's main problem remained that of getting his 
          plants to be sharply attuned to his person rather than to 
          their immediate environment, when he was away for several 
          days, he had to devise some means of attracting his plants' 
          attention even more effectively than addressing them over the 
          long-distance phone.  As his plants reacted most strongly to 
          any damage done to himself or to any part of his own energy 
          field, he experimented with remotely killing a few cells of 
          his body in the presence of the plants.  The system worked 
          admirably.  The problem was to obtain cells that would remain 
          alive for protracted periods.  Blood worked well enough, hair 
          was difficult to kill, but sperm worked best of all, because, 
          as Sauvin explained, it was easier to obtain than bleeding, 
          and much less painful. 

               "These experiments led Sauvin to wonder if plants might 
          not react just as well to emotions of pleasure and joy as to 
          pain and shock.  Not only was he tired of shocking himself, 
          he was afraid that repeated shocks to his plants, even 
          indirect ones, might be UNPLEASANTLY LOADING HIS KARMA.  
          
          [DITTO for vivisections, animal experiments, etc..]
          
          Sauvin soon found that his plants did react to joy and 
          pleasure, but with wave patterns that were not sharp enough 
          to trigger a switch reliably.  Undaunted, Sauvin decided on a 
          more daring experiment.  DURING A HOLIDAY WITH A GIRL FRIEND 
          AT HIS LAKESIDE COTTAGE HE ESTABLISHED THAT HIS PLANTS, 
          EIGHTY MILES AWAY, WOULD REACT WITH VERY HIGH PEAKS ON THE 
          TONE OSCILLATOR TO THE ACUTE PLEASURE OF [his] SEXUAL CLIMAX, 
          GOING RIGHT OFF THE TOP AT THE MOMENT OF ORGASM.  All of 
          which was very interesting and could be turned into a 
          COMMERCIALLY MARKETABLE DEVICE FOR JEALOUS WIVES TO MONITOR 
          THEIR PHILANDERING HUSBANDS, BY MEANS OF A POTTED 
          BEGONIA.".... 
          
          (EMPHASIS, and comment, added.)
          
          
          Footnote: Chapter 17 is about BIOLOGICAL TRANSMUTATIONS.
                    Chapters 19 and 20 are about RADIONICS/PSIONICS.
                    Entire book is FASCINATING!



               UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this 
          INTERESTING Quote, WITH my comments, is ENCOURAGED.


                                    Robert E. McElwaine     
                                    B.S., Physics and Astronomy, UW-EC
From: SL500000@brownvm.brown.edu (Robert Mathiesen)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Back Files of Pagan Publications
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:09:12 EDT
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: brownvm.brown.edu
News-Software: BNN via BNN_POST v1.0 beta

This is a pretty good idea, Pegasus.  What's needed is not only an index,
but a location where the back files will be securely held and made available
for copying.  One small problem is that ILL will not now allow one site to
ask for more than a small number of articles from any given periodical in
any one year (copyright worries).  It might be better if instead the back
files were microfilmed and the microfilms available for borrowing.  Most ILL
libraries have printers for making hard copies from microfilms.  Indexing
alone is not the answer.  --

The fullest back files that I've heard of are Gordon Melton's, at his In-
stitute for the Study of American Religion (University of California at
Santa Barbara).  Are you reading this, Gordon?  If so, are you interested
in such a project?  -- Robert

Robert Mathiesen, Brown University, SL500000@BROWNVM
From: popec@freeside.com (PopeC)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Re: Bewitched returns! (shudder)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 20:16:51 CDT
Organization: Rivendell BBS / Hou, TX. / +1 713 941 2236

pcxsws@unicorn.nott.ac.uk (S.Ward-Smith) writes:

> Hmm, an interesting idea, have witches ever been portrayed
> well on TV?
> The only programmes beside Bewitched I can think of are
> Lizzy Dripping and Simon and the Witch, both kids
> comedy series. Hardly a positive image, but not
> incredibly offensive.
> Can anyone think of an adult series where witches have been portrayed
> as they truly are? I have seen the odd documentary but no drama.
> 
> On a different note, thanks to the person who mailed me asking the
> meaning of slainte, the system ate the message before I could reply,
> my fault probably, sorry.
> It is gaelic for cheers, and slainte mhath means cheers mate,
> but would appreciate correction if I am slightly wrong.
> 
> Slainte,
> Steve
> `Am I the only one throughout the land, witnessing something so grand'
> It Bites


I've seen shareware language programs for Spanish and french.  Anybody 
know of anything like this for gaelic ect.?  Anyone brave enough to try 
to do
one?


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From: simcock@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Re: Myer-Briggs <was: Re: a nice experience last night>
Date: 13 Oct 92 02:48:54 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand







			HELP !!


		Whats all the Myer-Briggs stuff?

		I've missed something.



					-Matthew.
From: gil@Gilsys.DIALix.oz.au (Gil Hardwick)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: The Serpent
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 08:30:50 GMT
Organization: STAFF STRATEGIES - Anthropologists & Training Agents


In article <8qXJsB4w165w@hogbbs.scol.pa.us> wce@hogbbs.scol.pa.us writes:

 > gil@Gilsys.DIALix.oz.au (Gil Hardwick) writes:
 >  
 > > And what about their pearl? Did they make it themselves and have it
 > > stolen from them, or did they steal it from someone else?
 > > 
 >  
 > Ha ha, what a question.

Hm, Perhaps I am presuming too much about what decorations people notice
on Chinese restaurant walls, and the stories behind them. Any of our
Chinese friends know about Lung Fung, and what there is between them?

Why is the story so often illustrated on *restaurant* walls?

It IS relevant to the thread . . .

Gil

--
Gil Hardwick                                      gil@Gilsys.DIALix.oz.au
Independent Consulting Ethnologist                            3:690/660.6
PERTH, Western Australia                                 (+61 9) 399 2401
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From: IO10184@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Re: "Are you ready for the Rapture?"
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:23:30 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

In article: <1992Oct6.222528.14536@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>
boylan@sltg04.ljo.dec.com (Steve Boylan) writes:


>Local telephone poles and such have been plastered of late with signs
>with a big red cross, reading:
>
>        Are you ready for the rapture?
>
>        Jesus is coming
>
>        October 28, 1992
>
>Anybody out there got a clue as to where this originated?

    As far as I know this is posted by a particular
branch of the X-tian cult. Perhaps the Seventh Day Adventists
but I'm not sure..........

>How widespread is this . . . this . . . I suppose it would be
>rude to describe it as "terrorism" . . . this phenomenon?  Are these
>things showing up in other parts of the country?  Other parts of
>the world?

    I've heard quite a bit about it here in Maine, and I assume
it is all around the world also.


>I've been tempted to go around putting up signs next to them with a
>big pentacle, reading:
>
>        After the rapture . . .
>
>        Come celebrate with the meek!
>
>        October 29, 1992

     Sound like a good thing to me. As a side-note
I believe 'the rapture' is due to occur at precisely
6 pm ....of course the lord uses EasternStandard
Time....... whoever heard of a watchmaker in
Jerusalem?
       -Pat
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 HE SCOOOOORRRRRRRRES!!!!!!!        PAT MYERS                *
                                    IO10184@MAINE.MAINE.EDU  *
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From: arsmith@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Alan Smith)
Subject: Re: Halloween
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 06:43:49 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <Bw2tGq.Bo3@inews.Intel.COM> pharvey@mipos3.intel.com (Paul Harvey) writes:
>In article <1992Oct13.030332.20750@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> 
>lrabe@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Lee A Rabe) writes:
>>I've been invited to a Halloween party, and have found out that it is to be
>>a costume party.
>>I need suggestions for a costume.  Help!
>
>Rent the video "Dinner with Andre" and memorize Andre's lines and then go
>as Andre.

Scare the livin' dogshit outta me.

Big Al.  Who doesn't HAVE to dress up.
From: markbr%radian@natinst.com (markbr)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Re: Native, was Witches and death
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:08:45 GMT
Organization: Radian Cormp.

In article <Bw7wD9.3CJ@access.digex.com> corun@access.digex.com (Corun MacAnndra) writes:
>In article <Bw6Dzv.2r6@inews.Intel.COM> pharvey@mipos3.intel.com (Paul Harvey) writes:
>>
>>Why not? What makes one a native? What actions give you the right to call
>>yourself American? Paul Rodrigues had an interesting essay on
>>PBS's MacNeil/Lehrer about the celebration of Columbus's 500th. He concluded
>>that the problem is that for a great deal of us, for better or for worse,
>>1492 is our birthday.
>
>I suppose in the greater scheme of things, we are all Native Earthers. We're
>born on this planet and must live here together. But then we get into questions
>about where this or that person comes from, their ethnic background and so
>on. To be truly spcific about it we'd end up talking like the Ents of Tolkien's
>mythos and taking a very long time to say something because of the details.
>I guess Treebeard was right, we're a hasty people. So we become Native this
>or that, and it gets even more confusing as time goes on.
>
>Bb,
>Corun

I'll agree. If we had to define all of our terms, all of the time, we'd 
need a language like the Ents (which I presume would have *some* abbreviations
to represent sequence-flows/history; perhaps it would be agglutinative, like
German). Trouble occurs when people take abbreviations of past history,
like "XXX-American", or "Serb", etc, as being a *whole* thing, rather than
the tail and of an acronym of a history, and treat it as *that thing* which 
they belong to/are part of, rather than realizing that they are part of 
an evolving process.

	mark
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
From: burkel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (respect others' visions- live your own)
Subject: Lurker unlurks
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:22:03 GMT




I just wanted everyone to know that I finally read every letter
that has been posted. It's not a big accomplishment, I know.
But I hope that you will be supportive about this and just quietly
allow me to be proud of myself.

I just thought you should know.

Laura

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------"Let us put our heads together and see what life we will make
for our children."    -Tatanka Iotanka (Sitting Bull, Lakota)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: si0_tb90020@debet.nhh.no
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Crowley and Satanism (Help please)
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:32:10 MET
Organization: Norwegian School of Economics

I have the last couple of weeks read several articles in Norwegian
magazines and papers about Allistair Crowley. They all have the same
angle of view, often with the headline "The most evil Man in History".

A.C. is in all these articles claimed to be a satanist, and so on...
You all know the story. What I would really like to do is to set these
journalists straight. I have talked to a friend of mine, who might be
willign to try to get something published, but I do not have the
nessecary facts at hand.

What I need to know is what books he has written (I have read some of
what he has written, but I don't have any of his writings), what did he
do to make people say he is a satanist, what arguments can I use to
state he was not such a thing, and so on.

I am going to read more of his works while working on this...

Please send responce by email, this will make it easier for me than if
you post it to everybody by news.


Thanks in advance


   Terje Bergesen  :  SI0_TB90020@debet.nhh.no  :  terjeb@blh.no 
   -------------------------------------------------------------
   =                     Nuke The Whales                       =
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From: cortese@skid.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese)
Subject: Rick Mackinnon's e-mail address
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:58:07 GMT

Rick,

If you read this before you'r account gets kacked -- I DO NOT HAVE YOU
ADDRESS ANY LONGER.  SEND IT TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Blessings and so long,
Janis
From: gil@Gilsys.DIALix.oz.au (Gil Hardwick)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Cuneus was (Pagan Rock Artists...)
Distribution: world
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 12:44:03 GMT
Organization: STAFF STRATEGIES - Anthropologists & Training Agents

Liam at alehaus@brewich.hou.tx.us has e-mailed me under this thread's
Subject header, and my attempts at a reply have both bounced. The
original arrived via a UUCP bang path which is no good at this end.

Perhaps "alehaus" is your alias at brewich, is it? Otherwise please
do get back to me with your valid internet address.

Thanx

Gil

--
Gil Hardwick                                      gil@Gilsys.DIALix.oz.au
Independent Consulting Ethnologist                            3:690/660.6
PERTH, Western Australia                                 (+61 9) 399 2401
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Newsgroups: alt.pagan
From: pharvey@quack.sac.ca.us (Paul Harvey)
Subject: Re: The Serpent's Skin
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
	<keoZNPy00WBLM8bptQ@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:58:31 GMT

>>Serpents and dragons shed their skin, ie crawl out of their old skin and
>>into their new skin. That's a metaphor. What does it mean to you?

In article <keoZNPy00WBLM8bptQ@andrew.cmu.edu> 
Kendrick Kerwin Chua <kendrick+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>Isn't this just a variation on the old rebirth myth?  Like a person's
>journey into self-discovery, when you make a difficult decision you must
>discard what you once were, and become something new.  Die a little
>death, in essence.
>Isn't this something like that Tarot card, "Tha Hanged One"? I vaguely
>remember reading something about that in stuff by Amber K.

Sounds pretty good to me. But, the human being must *BE* or learn this
self-discovery, this ability to shed a metaphorical skin. The
serpent/dragon/snake just *IS*. That is it's power. Something we humans
can only hope to emulate.
From: acarr@coch2.alleg.edu (Amelia Carr)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Re: party at Philcon
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:15:44 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College

In article <1992Oct15.162615.10753@radian.uucp>  writes:
> o.k., one and all. I'm going to make it back to Philly for Philcon 
> (second weekend in November). I'm planning on having a party, tenetively
> on Friday night. come one, come all.
> 
> 	mark, the Silverdragon

What's Philcon?
Amelia
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
From: markbr%radian@natinst.com (markbr)
Subject: Re: Myer-Briggs <was: Re: a nice experience last night>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:36:39 GMT
Organization: Radian Cormp.

In article <1992Oct13.221909.27118@crc.ricoh.com> rowanf@crc.ricoh.com (Rowan Fairgrove) writes:
>It may be gauche to ask, but my site *finally* gets
>alt.pagan and this was the first thing I saw.  There
>was an interesting article in _Web of Wyrd_ recently
>regarding someone in Oz who did a thesis on 
>personality types by religion and found Christian
>priests and Pagans in the same range and Xtian 
>congregations very different.  Is this what started
>this discussion?
>
>Rowan Fairgrove

As a tacky (well, maybe not) response, perhaps it says that we have a lower
percentage of follower-types, if not an actual higher percentage of leader
types. It would seem to me that we have very few spear-carriers, and a lot
more heroes.

	mark
From: boylan@sltg04.ljo.dec.com (Steve Boylan)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Re: Seashells
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:56:51 GMT
Reply-To: boylan@ljohub.enet.dec.com (Steve Boylan)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Gil,

I'm afraid it took me a while to calm down and look beyond how your
posting was worded to understand what you were really trying to say,
rather than simply flaming in return.

Looking back at the actual messages, I think you're right that the
tone of my posting clashed badly with Janis's.  I had hoped to convey
a mild reproof concerning things forgotten, couched in what I had
hoped were amusing terms;  it's clear that my intent failed miserably.

I'm sorry that you were offended by my posting, and I hope that future
contributions will avoid any offense.

				Blessings,

				- - Steve

				boylan@ljohub.enet.dec.com
From: thomas@eagles.uucp (Thomas Hoffman)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Re: The Serpent
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 11:43:03 CDT
Organization: Eagles Reaches Church of Asatru - Elder Hof

> 
> That is for you to answer. Are they all dead for you?
no i was just asking to see what other people thought.

> >                                    /\
> >                                   / l\
> >                                  /  l \
> >                                     l
> >                                  l  l  l
> >                                  l  l  l
> >                                * l\ l  l *
> >                                  l \l  l
> >                                  l  l\ l
> >                                  l  l \l
> >                                  l  l  l
> >                                  l     l
> 
> Is that a serpent or are you just happy to see me?  ::B^}
no, it's a bind rune of tiwaz (T) and hagalaz (H) a sort of monogram.
kind of a side note: one of tiwaz's meanings is order and that of hagalaz is
the primal chaos. just so happens that they are my initials.

well met and wassail
Thomas of House Hoffman

Newsgroups: alt.pagan
From: markbr@radian.uucp (markbr)
Subject: party at Philcon
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:26:15 GMT
Organization: Radian Cormp.

o.k., one and all. I'm going to make it back to Philly for Philcon 
(second weekend in November). I'm planning on having a party, tenetively
on Friday night. come one, come all.

	mark, the Silverdragon
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: The Serpent
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:04:07 GMT

In article EKK@inews.Intel.COM, pharvey@mipos3.intel.com (Paul Harvey) writes:
> Serpents and dragons shed their skin, ie crawl out of their old skin and
> into their new skin. That's a metaphor. What does it mean to you?


re-birth - 
---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
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From: dsimon@informix.com (Olan Batur)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Re: Some disgustingly mushy stuff
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:04:39 GMT
Reply-To: dsimon@informix.com
Organization: Akbar & Jeff's Tofu Hut

In article 1b23caINNf88@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu, jmm25@po.CWRU.Edu (Jessica M. Mcgeary) writes:
>
>Some friends of mine and I got extremely bored in senior year of high 
>school, and started trying to compose a list of arguments for and against 
>God's existence. It wound up soundling like something out of Robert 
>Fulghum. It was also partly lost to a bad archive file. The original was 
>six pages long, and God was ahead by about six arguments- but the 'against' 
>side was catching up pretty quickly. Just wondering what y'all thought of 
>this; bear in mind that the thing was written by seven or eight high school 
>seniors at an all-girls high school in north Jersey.
>
>
>  Snakes                         Telephone solicitations
>  DNA                            Slavery
>  Lead crystal                   OPEC
>  Fish                           Poorly done Cajun food
>  Democracy                      American politics
>  Rainbows                       Hurricanes
>  The human skeleton             Constipation
>  Colored pencils                Anorexia
>  The 13th Amendment             Dysentery
>  Crayons                        Tabloids
>  Pianos                         Dandruff
>
	For				Against
Peanuts(cartoon)		GI. Joe (cartoon)
Singapore			Kansas City
Love				Greed
Joy				Depression
MJ				crack
XTC				LSD flashbacks
Alcohol				Alcohol
Family				Family Reunions
Kissing				Mono

..any one else?


don
From: law10@po.CWRU.Edu (Lorrie A. Wood)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Re: Halloween
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:29:07 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


Re: Geordi's airfilter headgear (ok, so it totally doesn't fit)

	It's a banana clip, like as in used in hair.

Read You Later . . .

-- 
"All statements are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in
some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense,
false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in
some sense." -- _Principia_Discordia_ -- the Book of the Church of Eris (Chaos)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan