From: nikolay@husc10.harvard.edu (Philip Nikolayev)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: Re: this haiku has no title / Marek, cup the disgrace, Re: An Act of Kindness (was: Re: a rose-fingered...)
Date: 23 Dec 92 10:20:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc10.NIKOLAY.92Dec23022007
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In-reply-to: marek@casbah.acns.nwu.edu's message of 23 Dec 92 05:40:40 GMT

marek@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marek Lugowski) writes:

> [a poem follows]

> In article <NIKOLAY.92Dec22211904@husc10.harvard.edu>
> nikolay@husc10.harvard.edu (Philip Nikolayev) writes:

PN
>>At any rate, I have no interest in anyone's delusions except
>>Plato's and my own...
> ...
>>I doubt that you have seen any of my verse, Bill, unless, of course,
>>you read Russian and have access to Moscow periodicals and
>>anthologies.  If you did, though, you'd have a hell of a hard time
>>trying to show
>>that it doesn't scan.
> ...
>>No disclaimers. All the above opinions have been
>>approved by the Harvard Board of Trustees and 
>>the Harvard Administrative Board.
>>
>>Philip Nikolayev
>>nikolay@husc.harvard.edu

ML
> I have a hard time resisting not duplicating and sending that last
                               ^^^ Learn thy grammar, poet!

> claim to your university's Board of Trustees as well a its
> Administrative Board as a courtesy.  They should know their own
> opinions, don't you think?  It's a matter of integrity and
> accountability.

Go ahead, mail it, you itchy upright snitch; don't forget to 
attach an indignant petition for sanctions, signed by you and 
a howling host of other douchebags.

ML
> Incidentally, Mr. Plato fucked little boys in the arse, lots and
> lots, so tells me a licensed historian (I know how licenses and
> proofs of attainment are important to you, thus my qualification of
> her qualifications).  I only mention it because you asked what I
> thought of child abuse.

Gee, that was a month ago. Have you got some delayed-action ants
in your pants, or what?

ML
> Well, um, I think it is a natural expression of Platonic love.  As
> long as Plato wears a condom and the child agrees, and the parents
> and the community bless it.
> Would you say that was Platonic of me?  I am just concerned with
> your delusions, Plato-dude, not with the world, which we all know,
> is just a shadow, to quote that other Plato-dude, Mick Jagger.

Tell that historian of yours to stick his license where the sun 
don't shine; or better still, ask him to post on the matter, and I'll 
sodomise the twit personally.  But it's nice of you to acknowledge that
you've never read any Plato and are valiantly tilting at imaginary
windmills. Don't brandish your cardboard javelin at me, Marek. If you care
to find out what Plato thought of sex between males, read his _Symposium_.
And tell your hallucinating historian to peruse Dover's study of Greek 
homosexuality, so that he can satisfy himself that the ancient Greeks 
didn't fuck boys in the arse. You too should go and read some book, since
you have undoubtedly scribbled more stuff in all your life than you
have read. And keep in mind, you mumbling newly-fledged moralist, that
Plato is the founder of the entire Western philosophical tradition,
and you can't ignore him in the manner you would best be ignored yourself.

> 				-- Marek

> Merry Berry.  I wish you'd post some of your Russian verse that
> scans so we can see if you lied.  Now that you post claims that are
> not true, it is hard to give you much credibility, you know.  So
> help us rehabilitate you, Comrade Nikolayev.  There may be no life
> after literal death, but we sure can do miracles about bringing you
> back from a literary one...

Get lost, pukehead. If I posted some poetry here, do you think I would
give a tipsy tinker's cuss about your opinion? Besides, I don't
need any credibility, as I'm sure you've heard before.

>                 this haiku has no title
>                 -------------------------------------------------------------
>  
>                 pretty girl
>                 marek jumps to conclusion
>                 end of haiku
>  

Never tired of emitting elementary farticles, are you?

>                         Marek Lugowski
>                         22 October 1992
>                         Chicago, Illinois

Philip Nikolayev
nikolay@husc.harvard.edu