HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mre@kepler.unh.edu (MikE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: QL: One Little Heart--The Real Ending
Date: 18 Nov 1992 03:32:13 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

I LIKE it! 
This would go so well with the "Death of Sam, Leaping of Al" plot idea from 
last week or so.  
				--MikE

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From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: highlander songs
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:35:28 GMT
Reply-To: bwebster@pages.com
Organization: Banzai Research Institute

In article <BxqsDK.210@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jasstev@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (stevens  
jason) writes:
> 
>      Queen, probably the greatest band ever...I could be wrong here...

I thought those two statements made nice bookends for the other comments. :-)  
..bruce..

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From: barry@seas.smu.edu (Robert Barry)
Subject: Re: BABYLON 5 vs ST:DSN - THE DEBATE BEGINS!
Organization: SMU School Of Engineering and Applied Science
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:40:27 GMT

In article <Bxv8MH.9sx@cmptrc.lonestar.org> brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton) writes:
>In article <1992Nov15.205429.1@uwovax.uwo.ca> 4224_5201@uwovax.uwo.ca (Dark Lord of the Sith) writes:
>>
>>"But what does God want with a star ship?"
>>                            Spock
>                             ^^^^^
>Not trying to flame you, but Kirk said this.
>

Yes and yes.  Kirk said it.  He got pounded for it.  Then Spock clued in
and repeated it.  He then got pounded.
From: C604441@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU (Gary Jarrell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: SF-LOVERS Digest   V17 #612
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:17:14 GMT

RE:  Day of the Triffids.

It is available on video, I bought a copy in Nashua NH at the
one of the video retail outlets in the mall.  Not for sure of the
name.  The video was on closeout for $5.99.  So, you may want to
try some of the video retailers (in the close out/sale) sections.

It is a rather bizzare and (funny now) movie.  Gary Jarrell.
From: @apollo.HP.COM (Jennifer E. Levine)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL:Daughter of Sin I *SPOILERS*
Date: 20 Nov 92 22:43:49 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA

In article <83999@ut-emx.uucp>, nova@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jennifer Baughman) writes:
|> Ziggy calculates that there is a 99% probability that there are spoilers ahead.
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|> I was going to do a synopsis, but then I decided not to...everyone who reads
|> this has probably watched the damn thing, so why waste my time and yours?  :)
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|> Okay.  Comments.

|> Okay, now to the widow, Mrs. Aider.  Before I do, though, I'd like to ask a 
|> question for the record...Are there any NORMAL people in this town?????
|> Mrs. Aider certainly doesn't qualify!!!  *groan*  Well, I didn't like the way
|> she kept accusing Abigail of killing her husband and her daughter.  I also
|> thought it was very unusual that she insisted on seeing her husband right 
|> then-and-there...even though he was in the middle of being autopsied.  Now
|> maybe I'm just a little paranoid, and maybe it can be explained as a grieving
|> widow wanting one last look at her dead husband--but given her later actions,
|> I sincerely doubt it.  Question is, *why* did she want to see his body so 
|> badly?  Maybe she wanted to make sure that he was really dead?
|> 
I was surprised by the way she started beating Abigail

|> What is the significance of the locket?  Abigail and her mother wanted it, and
|> had saved up all their money for it, and then Violet and her mother got it 
|> first.  Now Violet has disappeared, and is assumed to have been killed by a 
|> pack of wild dogs, and the locket with her...so why does Mrs. Aider think that
|> Abigail has it?  And what is so important about it?
|> 
I have more questions...
Did Abigail lie about the locket? When I ask this I mean the part about saving
all their money? What is this locket really? It felt like more than just a thing
a child wanted.
|> Back to Abigail...she told Sam that she *wanted* Violet to die, and she did, 
|> and that she *wanted* the pack of dogs to die, and they did, and that she
|> *wanted* Mr. Aider to die, and he did...does anyone see a pattern here?????

I see the pattern. The thing that weirded me out about Abigail was the way she
kept asking her father to tell all the ways he loved her. Almost like a spoiled
or insecure child but more. I got the feeling that there would have been serious
problems if Sam didn't say the right thing.

Didn't Sam seem mesmerized by Abidail?

--Jennifer
jlevine@apollo.hp.com
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From: kellyb@ccsua.ctstateu.edu
Subject: HighlanderIII(and counting)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:19:09 GMT

  Greetings,

  From all the debate about the immortals one would think you mortals
  have forgoten about HighlanderII.Nothing is certain when it comes
  to the Ziestians(Ziest?where's that?).I can't keep it to myself anymore
  about the next movie, HighlanderIII the Magician.It seems in this movie
  the power of the quickening is fadding away and it's up to Connor and his
  mentor Ramierez to bring it back.Remember how in HighlanderII Conor calls
  Ramierez's name and he apears where he died,well it looks like an evil
  immortal figures this out and calls the Kurgan back from the dead.That's 
  all I know and I can't devulge my source but keep in mind,there can't be
  only one movie.

                                             B.C.Kelly
From: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: QL: time-sharing leapers?
Date: 24 Nov 92 01:01:26 GMT
Reply-To: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Organization: University of Arizona

So I was thinking about "The Leap Back" the other day, and suddenly,
it occurred to me:


<er, SPOILERS, just in case you haven't seen it...>


Al was a leaper, and THEY GOT HIM BACK!

Sam lept into the the same person Al had lept into, and apparently, this
caused Al to "leap back".

If this is true, ya gotta wonder why they don't have someone volunteer to
leap into Sam's leepee: Sam leaps back to PQL, and the person most able
to solve the random-leaping problem has is memory back, and is on-site to
solve the problem.

Even if Sam couldn't solve it, wouldn't it at least make sense to give
him a break after 5 years?  Swap beeing the leaper between two or three
guys?

And yes, I realize this violates the fact that the nature of the show
is governed by those who have little or no interest in monkeying with
it's basic format...

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From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: highlander songs
Date: 16 Nov 92 04:21:27 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Nov14.164513.1841@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> z_ofearnask@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>Does anyone out there have any idea what the name of the Queen song that
>introduces the show is named.  I have been able to find "Who wants to live
>forever," but i don't even know what the name of the song at the beginning is. 
>Also, does anyone know where I can find the song "Don't lose your head"?  or
>who did it?

All this music -- "Princes Of The Universe (Theme From Highlander)",
"Who Wants To Live Forever?", "Don't Lose Your Head", etcetera, are on
Queen's soundtrack album for the first film, titled "A Kind Of Magic".

There's also a really moving live version of "Who Wants..." on the video
of Queen live at Wembley (?).  On some of the close-ups of Freddie, it
suddenly hits you that by that point he knew he had AIDS, and he was
singing for himself.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 16 Nov 1992 16:36:12 CST
From: <U58505@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Highlander

Well I for one really loved the first Highlander movie.  I didn't catch
it at the theater.  A friend of mine had taped it off HBO or something
and let me borrow it.  Needless to say I was most confused at first,
with the flashbacks and all - I was like what the hell kind of stoopid
crap is this.  Funny how it is one of my all time favorite movies now,
I even went out and bought a video copy.  I'm most interested in
checking out the foreign version, so if someone has any ideas how to go
about that - it'd be nice to know.  Personally me and all my friends
regard Highlander II as non-continuity (end of discussion).  And,
actually; yes, if you watch it and ignore Highlander I - it's not bad
at all.  Personally I also like the series, it has a lot of potential.
And yes, they should end it with the Kurgen killing off Duncan.  I
just saw the episode "Mountain Men" with Marc "Beastmaster" Singer,
and I must say it's one the better episodes thus far.  The first
immortal we see who doesn't use a sword, it was a type of battleaxe
or something.  What I want to see are some really old immortals, I
mean, really old.  What we have from the highlander "mythos" thus far
is that Ramirez is the oldest (he was an Egyptian I believe, so
assuming he lived during the height of the ancient Egyptian empire
that would make his birth around 2,500 BC).  Out of all the immortals
seen thus far from the first movie and the series, the only one who
could possibly be older than Ramirez would be the Kurgen (but they're
not too specific about how old the Kurgen is).  I want to see some
immortals that were born during the ice age, during prehistoric times
or something; most everyone seems to be born within the last 1000 years.
They could do an episode called "The Oldest Immortal", were Duncan meets
the first immortal that ever was.  In keeping with the movie and series
continuity, the first immortal would have to be killed off by the
Kurgen.  Just cause he's the oldest doesn't necessarily mean he'd be
the best at sword-fighting.

I'm also curious as to what name Ramirez was born with, Ramirez couldn't
have possibly been his original name - maybe he was actually one of the
pharoahs.  The Kurgen should make a guest appearance or two on the series
where he tries to take Duncan's head but won't really succeed until the
final episode.  That'd be cool.

I am kind of ticked that "Devereax" was killed off.  Even though he
didn't talk much and wasn't even in the flashback Joan Jett had, I
thought he had a lot of depth.

Well, just a few minor ramblings.

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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: BABYLON 5 vs ST:DSN - THE DEBATE BEGINS!
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:45:44 GMT

In article <75564@hydra.gatech.EDU> ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:
>Oh, so when Spock is around, no one else is allowed to come to any
>logical conclusions?  What happens when you get two Vulcans together?
>Who gets to ask the logical questions then?  The older one?

The one who is holding the conch shell.


New crossover episode:  A shuttle full of crewmembers has a transporter
accident, converting the occupants to children.  Unable to see
the controls, the pilot navigates through a wormhole, and crashes on
a deserted island in 20th century Earth.  The form a primitive society,
hunting for food, and eventually splitting into two rival factions
who begin warring.  When a boat with 5 passengers and two crewmembers
are stranded on the island, the children foil their rescue attempts
by stealing the boat's emergency transmitter, are returned to
Hawaii, and claim to be the heirs to the fortune of the late Thurston
Howell III.
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       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
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From: jfarmer@fraser.sfu.ca (Jason Michael Farmer)
Subject: Highlander - The Quickening
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:40:57 GMT

This is not about the nightmare 'Highlander 2'!!!

Have you noticed that all of the imortals seem to be afraid of the Quickening?
Whenever, Duncan kills another immortal he trys to run away from the quickening.It's obviously very painful.


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From: maujs@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J D Morris)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: day of the triffids?
Date: 18 Nov 1992 12:38:17 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
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In article <1e9u4nINN511@werple.apana.org.au> kat@werple.apana.org.au (Kathryn Andersen) writes:

>But yes, it was a very good adaption of an excellent book.
>I wonder if anyone would consider doing Wyndham's "Trouble With Lichen".
>Or even "The Chrysalids".  Among my favourites by him!
>
>Kathryn Andersen
>
	Ditto about the BBC version of 'Day Of The Triffids',
	it's still incredible after all these years, particularly
	the first (hospital) episode...
	I think it was HTV (in Britain) who did a rather
	good adaption of his children's book 'Chocky' in about
	1985, which they followed up with their own
	'Chocky's Children', 'Chocky's Challenge', 'What 
	Chocky did next', 'Chocky IV','Carry on Chocky', 'Chocky rides
	again', 'Chocky and the Chocky factory', 'No sex
	please - I'm Chocky', 'Chocky's last stand'...
	sorry, I got a bit carried away there...

		Jonathan Morris
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From: lauriec@microsoft.com (Laurie Corrin)
Subject: Re: Highlander - TV Series
Date: 18 Nov 92 01:28:13 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

In article <jfarmer.721671725@sfu.ca> jfarmer@fraser.sfu.ca (Jason Michael Farmer) writes:
>aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink) writes:
>
>>And, yeah, SURE this takes place in New York.  Especially with those Pacific
>>West telephone booths scattered throughout the city...
>
>And the BC Transit Buses, and the Canada Post trucks, and the obvious Gastown
>locations, and..... another hilarious attempt to turn Vancouver, B.C. into
>a shitty American town.  (Hey, just kidding).  
>

I think it's supposed to be either Seattle, or just a generic American city.
Do they ever say where it's supposed to be set? I recognized the Vancouver 
locales, but all the license plates say Washington State.
From: cgallagher@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: The Musical Collection
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:57:15 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

In article <1ebhd8INN6l0@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, bdsm@poincare.WPI.EDU (Billy Don McConnell) writes:
> 
> In article <Nov.17.13.13.09.1992.18349@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, finifter@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Tracy E. Finifter) writes:
> |> guppy@wixer.cactus.org (Jennifer Mery) writes:
> |> 
> |> >We have the music from Northern Exposure, and Twin Peaks, but when is
> |> >the QL CD coming out? And what will be on it? Somewhere in the Night?
> |> >The Impossible Dream? Al's rap? I'd buy it.
> |> 
> |> >jam
> |> 
> |> For any powers that be that might see this, I would also love a QL CD.  Here
> |> are a few suggestions for it:
> |> 
> |> Scott singing the following songs:
> |>   Imagine
> |>   Dulcinea
> |>   the song from "Piano Man"
> |>   the song from "Pool Hall Blues"
> |>   Great Balls of Fire
> |> 
> |> as well as these:
> |>   "Georgia on my Mind" (by Ray Charles, of course)
> |>   "Unchained Melody"
> |>   "Runaway"
> |>   "Sittin' on the Dock of the Bay" (can you tell M.I.A. was one of my favorite
> |>                                     episodes?)
> |>   "The Twist"
> |> 
> |> I could, however, live without Al's rap.
> 
> Hey, if you're gonna have 'Great Balls of Fire' (from Miss Deep South), you GOTTA
> have the tune 'Guanda Lagusta' (or whatever the heck the name of that song is)
> that Sam and Al dueted on, with Sam dressed up like Carmen Miranda.  But then
> again, this is mostly a visual pleaser...maybe save it for the video collection.


	Come on, you HAVE to have Piggy.. I mean Peggy Sue.  The 
Cramen Mirnada one is also a must though.  And don't forget to leave 
out the new theme (UGH!!)

Colin

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From: mab@buphy.bu.edu (Michael Burstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: QL: Leap I'd like to see....
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:05:14 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.tv
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <BxxzHK.Cyx@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine) writes:
>So, what would you all on the net like to see?

I'd like to see Sam leap into my life in early January, just before I
have to take my Physics Comprehensive Exams. Just hope his swiss cheesed
brain will remember graduate level physics. :-)


-- 
Michael A. Burstein
Physics Department, Boston University         mab@buphy.bu.edu
590 Commonwealth Ave.                         (617) 353-9437 (o)
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From: domalley@unix1.tcd.ie (Slartibartfast            (alias Daniel O'Malley))
Subject: Re: day of the triffid?
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 17:42:54 GMT

In <92318.170636IO21145@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> IO21145@MAINE.MAINE.EDU writes:

>In one of my late night PBS viewing binges I caught the middle
>of "Day of the Triffid's" - Does anyone know if it has ever come
>out on video? - From what I remember, the film (undoubtedly BBC)
>seemed to end in an incomplete manner. Does my memory do me wrong?

Well, it's the same ending as the book (I think) - the humans don't
win, they just decide to organise themselves and not to give up...
(It's a good few years since I saw this, so forgive me a few errors...)
And I don't think it's on video, but I could be wrong...

When I saw this (about 1984, I think...) I was only 10, so it gave me
a right dose of the willies... If I saw it now, I'd probably have a good
laugh, but I remember the effects to be quite impressive (like the BBC version
of The Invisible Man which was made around the same time...)

Anyone else care to comment?

Daniel.
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From: mre@kepler.unh.edu (MikE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Question on Deliver Us From Evil (and Ziggy)
Date: 16 Nov 1992 02:04:09 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

In article <83708@ut-emx.uucp> nova@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jennifer Baughman) writes:
>Ziggy control Sam's.  Maybe I'm wrong, but I always thought 
>that Ziggy *couldn't* control Sam's leaps, and therein lies 
>a crucial component of the story.  Or look at it as a plot
Or maybe Ziggy *can* control Sam's leaps...hence the temper tantrums and grad-
ual release of information.  Maybe Ziggy is secretly controlling where (figur-
atively if you must.) Sam leaps to and whom he leaps into.  Perhaps Ziggy is 
behind it all.
Perhaps Sam *designed* Ziggy to do this, but not to tell anyone...and himself
forgot about it when his memory got swiss-cheesed.
How's *that* for a theory?
						--MikE
>Ziggy ate my .sig.
Don't worry, she's eaten a few of mine, too.  :)


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From: guppy@wixer.cactus.org (Jennifer Mery)
Subject: QL: The Musical Collection
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 09:32:42 GMT

We have the music from Northern Exposure, and Twin Peaks, but when is
the QL CD coming out? And what will be on it? Somewhere in the Night?
The Impossible Dream? Al's rap? I'd buy it.

jam
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From: ied1@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ingrid de Beus)
Subject: Re: mid-80's tv series
Reply-To: ied1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 23:30:20 GMT

In article <9211200053.AA16632@rutgers.edu> MB05704@swtexas.BITNET writes:
>I've been trying to remember the name of a series that came
>on sometime during the early to mid-80's.
>
>It was the one about a family that while visiting one of the
>great pyramids over night (?) gets transported to an alternate
>universe where they are constantly hunted by the government there
>and have to keep moving from province to province.
>
>The only episode I can remember is when the two kids decide to
>become rock stars by singing old earth songs.  They become very
>popular.  Eventually their popularity spreads and the gov't finds
>out where they are and they have to move again.
>
>I'm sure most of you remember something about this show.
>
>Michael Bruno
>MB05704@SWTEXAS.EDU


Actually, I do remember this series.  It was called "Otherword", I'm
pretty sure.  It had some really neat ideas about a dystopic alternate
world, where the people live in regimented villages, and big brother
is always watching.  Not exactly original in all its ideas, but
the family-trapped-in-an-alternate-world idea was pretty good, and
they had some decent acting to back it up.  

just tryin' ta help..

ingrid-
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	My old .sig was quite pessimistic, so here's an improvement:
	 a Blake's 7 quote that works as a Quantum Leap reference!
      "We've come at the worst possible time -- of course."  (Kerr Avon)
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