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From: vka+@pitt.edu (Vishnu K Agrawala)
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: Re: Iron, Lion, Zion
Date: 22 Dec 92 09:41:03 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <dlcogswe.724988798@vela> dlcogswe@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Dan Cogswell) writes:
>Hmmmm... This is turning into a Marley group.  Wonder why... :-)
>
>I keep hearing "Iron, Lion, Zion" on the radio and I'm wondering what
>the deal is on this song.  If it was recorded >10 years ago, why does it
>sound so contemporary??  Did they remix/re-record the song recently?  Maybe
>Bob was just far ahead of his time.
>
>-- 
>Dan Cogswell               Or as we say in Michigan:  "Dee-troit"


Oh, man! I saw the video for this on MTV's new "Alternative Nation"
show, and I fell in love with it! It has beautiful animation, concert
footage (including some which I think is from the Lyceum), and they
even feature Haile Selassie. First time I'd heard the song, I love it.
Can't wait to bring myself to shell out $50 for the box set.



-- 
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| Rajiv K. Agrawala      rkast2@unixd.cis.pitt.edu | purely my own and do not
| Undergraduate Mech. Engrg., Univ. of Pittsburgh  | reflect those of anyone or
\==================================================/ anything else. Thanks.
From: plappala@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Matti Petteri Lappalainen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: Re: UB40
Date: 25 Dec 92 12:54:52 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In <BzsJtE.Dr7@news.cso.uiuc.edu> pms26964@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Phil Scopes) writes:

>mcginnisj@woods.ulowell.edu writes:

>>Greetings,
>>	I was just wondering if anyone had any comments on the group UB40.
>>I know that they are supposedly reggae, but I heard they weren't very good.
>>Any comments or opinions??

>>							-Jim

>I happen to like UB40.  I discovered them, as well as reggae in general, 
>when they did their recording of Red Red Wine.  Since then, I had heard 
>other reggae bands, and it seems as if it's all the same, but I like all
>reggae music because of its simplicity.
>-- 
>* Phil Scopes (pms26964@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu)
>* University of Illinois
>* Champaign/Urbana

I recommend the album "labour of love II".
it's fantastic.

--
Petteri Lappalainen		*   e-mail: plappala@cc.helsinki.fi
University of Helsinki		*           EARTH SUCKS!! 
Dep. of Computer Science	*        it's called gravity 



-- 
Petteri Lappalainen		*   e-mail: plappala@cc.helsinki.fi
University of Helsinki		*           EARTH SUCKS!! 
Dep. of Computer Science	*        it's called gravity 
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: Re: Bob Marley Albums
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: The Bates Motel
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 20:06:03 GMT

sh0001@medtronic.COM (Scott Hansohn) writes:
>Gilford T. Hapanyengwi (gilford@vuse.vanderbilt.edu) wrote:
>:
>: I was wondering if there is some minimal set of CDs I could buy to
>: cover all the music?
>
>I have both the boxed CD set and Legend.  They compliment each other 
>nicely.  Get them both.

Round all that off with the three live albums and you're set:

	* Live (London concert)
	* Babylon By Bus
	* Talking Blues Live

gld
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Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
From: evans@pan.arc.nasa.gov (Dan Evans)
Subject: Re: UB40
Followup-To: evans@pan.arc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA/Ames Research Center, Moffett Field CA USA
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 23:25:38 GMT

In article <1992Dec24.015247.1@woods.ulowell.edu> mcginnisj@woods.ulowell.edu writes:
>Greetings,
>	I was just wondering if anyone had any comments on the group UB40.
>I know that they are supposedly reggae, but I heard they weren't very good.
>Any comments or opinions??
>
>							-Jim
I agree with most of the follow-ups to this post, i.e. early UB40 is
excellent, but they lost their touch in later albums.

My personal favorite is the UB40 Live album (1982), this highlights
their first couple of albums, and anyone who's seen UB40 live will agree
they put on an excellent show.  Another good album is the UB40 1980-1983
greatest hits album, this has most of the studio versions of the songs
on the live album.  Their later, original material, didn't pack the same
punch as this early stuff.  However, the two Labour of Love albums are
excellent tributes to the originals.

Along this same thread, has anyone seen/heard the twelve inch version of
"Maybe Tomorrow"?  I've heard it a couple of times on a local radio
station, but have never found it in the record bins.  It has the
extended toasting of Astro, which isn't the version included on the
UK-only album "The Best of UB40".

Also, glad to see the formation of this group.

Cheers,

Dan
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
From: mike@jammin.nosc.mil (mike pawka)
Subject: Re: Bob Marley Albums
Organization: NRaD
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:44:31 GMT

In article <GILFORD.92Dec21144720@lexus.vuse.vanderbilt.edu>, gilford@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Gilford T. Hapanyengwi) writes:
|> I am in the process of collecting Bob Marley's Music on CDs.  Since
|> quite a number of the songs are repeated in different albums;  I was
|> wondering if there is some minimal set of CDs I could buy to cover all
|> the music?  Feel free to send me email or to post to the group if you
|> think your response is of general interest.
|> 

	Get the recently released 4 disc Box-set, "Songs of Freedom" on Tuff Gong.

								Mike
From: mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: Re: Reggae terms
Date: 30 Dec 92 15:04:06 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <1992Dec23.041433.10300@wes.on.ca>, tomh@wes.on.ca (Tom Haapanen) writes:
> jim@coral.aiss.uiuc.edu writes:
>> Ok here is one that we get a good laugh at:
>> 
>> From the Wailing Souls cd.........Picky Picky Head....... what does this
>> mean ?
> 
> "Picky picky head" would be a brushcut, from prickly hair and using the
> Jamaican superlative (like "big big").  [Hey, my wife is an expert on
> these things... :) ]

Def. - An expert is a person far from home with a brief case.

Picky, picky, here does not refer to prickly hair (the only ting I know of with 
prickly hair would be a porcupine!).  It refers to the hair type most commonly
found on Africans/people of African descent.

McBean.

> 
> [ \tom haapanen    "i don't even know what street canada is on" -- al capone ]
> [ tomh@wes.on.ca                   "trust the programmer" -- ansi c standard ]
> [ waterloo engineering software      "to thine own self be true" -- polonius ]
From: allenk@ugcs.caltech.edu (Allen Knutson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: I Smoke Two Joints
Date: 21 Dec 1992 23:38:04 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: torment.ugcs.caltech.edu

Is this the correct name for the song with this chorus? And who's it by?
I've only heard it once, on a very silly radio station that was playing
"The Top Ten Summer Songs Of All Time" and included this as #2 I think.
It made enough of an impression on me at the time that I still remember
about half of the words.

I smoke two joints in the morning, I smoke two joints at night,
I smoke two joints in the afternoon, 'cause it makes me feel all right,
...
I smoke two joints before I smoke a joint, and then I smoke two more,
...
I smoke two joints when I play video games, and _every_ten_thousand_points_,
				** I smoke two joints. **

(Punctuation added for emphasis.)

Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
From: mike@spss.com (mike cornwall)
Subject: CHICAGO REGGAE MUSIC AWARDS Jan 23
Organization: SPSS Inc.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 16:34:16 GMT


CHICAGO REGGAE MUSIC AWARDS  
Saturady Jan 23
Congress Hotel, 520 S. Michigan

Don't miss it, been to them last 4 years.

This years show features a performance by Andrew Tosh plus 10 other
reggae, rap, hip hop & African acts.  Also all the local reggae artists
will be there socializing.

Buy your tickets before Dec 25, and the price is only $10, after Dec 25
admission is $25.  For tickets call TicketMaster at 312-559-1212.

It is a Martin's International Production.  I am in no way affiliated
with Martin's or the show - I just enjoy the music.

--
Mike Cornwall
mike@spss.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
From: solon@csulb.edu (Todd Allaria)
Subject: Re: I Smoke Two Joints
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 04:41:16 GMT

You forgot the line:
"I smoke two joints, in time of peace, two in time of war"

Can't think of offhand who sang it, though there is an arguement now that some
think it was the "Toys", though I personally think that is incorrect.

Todd
From: mary@Cayman.COM (Mary Malmros)
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: Third World on CD?
Date: 23 Dec 92 14:44:20 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA


Does anyone know what Third World stuff has been released on CD?  All
I can find is the more recent stuff, which I can do without...but I'd
love to get the earlier stuff (Journey to Addis, 96 Degrees, The Story's
Been Told).  Anyone?
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From: stevem@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Steve McGowan (RA))
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: Lee Perry information required....
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:09:53 GMT
Organization: Computing Sci, Glasgow Univ, Scotland


I posted a similar request about a year or so ago on rec.music.misc, but got
no helpful information....

Does anyone out there have a COMPREHENSIVE discography of all the work (or as 
much as possible) that Lee Perry has produced/recorded or otherwise been 
involved in?

I'm more interested in his earlier work (from the 70s I think) which, IMHO, seems
to be his best period. I have about 40 or so of his albums (either recorded by
himself or producing other artists), but feel that there has to be much more stuff 
of his still to collect (especially albums that he's produced).

Thanks in advance.


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From: gchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Gwyn Church)
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: conscious lyrics
Date: 26 Dec 92 03:18:37 GMT
Organization: Ohio University CS Dept,. Athens

What a delight to discover this newsgroup one week before I get a modem and
hook onto the net.  I know just enough computer-ese to be dangerous, so if 
I trample some protocol clue me in. With music in my head since before birth,
I've concluded that much of what people usually call reggae music evokes
ancient, foundational intervals and harmonies, then weds them to rhythms of
a human nature (heartbeat, walking cadences, etc.).  Hence its widespread
appeal melodically and rhythmically. What makes some of the Music addi-
tionally crucial to me are the conscious lyrics -- those having to do with
liberation--spiritual or otherwise, and those with an instructive, positive
directness.  IMHO, even the instrumental reggae stands out if it stands UP
reverentially, e.g. Augustus Pablo's best riffs make it clear Who or what
spirit is being glorified.  No ooey-gooey lyrics for this child.  Any
thoughts on this out there?
	On another note: Does anyone know where I can find tapes/cd's by
Jah Levi and the Higher Reasoning? They played at the Dugout Lounge here
in old Athens, OH in Sept. '91 (as well as Israel Vibration - what a great
autumn!) and they Rocked the House, if you know what I mean. I have one
wrinkled tape, and have written to the address in Beat magazine to order
more, but...NO REPLY

"Wand'ring child, searching for directions that images don't show,
it's a sin beckoning for the love that they need to know." --Jimmy
Cliff.

Ite, Gwyneth
From: Steve Frampton <frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca>
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: Re: 92 reggae recommendations
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 93 16:36:39 EST
Reply-To: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
Followup-To: rec.music.reggae
Distribution: world
Organization: Vicuna Systems, Kingston, Ontario, CANADA
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hey all:

rodean@fc.hp.com (Bruce Rodean) writes:

> As 1992 passes into oblivion, I'd like to start a thread on the best
> reggae recordings of the past year.  

Great idea.  One small suggestion to those who wish to contribute:
please include the producing company (along with address, if you can)
as it makes it a *heck* of alot easier to order from a store.

> What have other people found that they'd like to share?  Of course I
> should have posted this long before my trip to California and my
> pilgrimage to Tower.

I'd like to offer a couple that I picked up in December:

Strictly The Best - Volume 2 (compilation)   (VPCD-1147)
by VP Records:  Main Branch, 170-21 Jamaica Avenue, Jamaica, NY 11432

Features 12 great songs (mostly dancehall, a few roots) by Little Lenny,
Nardo Ranks, Tiger, Shabba Ranks, Red Dragon, Reggie Stepper, Ninjaman,
Ini Kamoze, Shabba Ranks & Deborahe Glasgow, Freddie McGregor, Frankie
Paul, and Barrington Levy.

My favorite cuts would have to be "Burrups" by Nardo Ranks, "Roots and
Culture" by Shabba Ranks, "Kimbo King" by Reggie Stepper, and "Loving
Pauper" by Freddie McGregor.


Carnival Fever - Byron Lee & The Dragonaires   (DY-3467)
by Dynamic Sounds:  15 Bell Road, Kingston 11, Jamaica, WI

Has 10 wonderful soca tracks (this is the best variety I have heard in
a long time).  My favorite ones would have to be Lady Teaser, Carnival
Killer, Soki Soki, Black Man Came Out To Party, and last, but not least, 
Soca Lambada.

Check 'em out!

+--------+< Unabashed Shabba Ranks Fan! >+------+--------------------+
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| I collect postcards!  If you send me one from | 501-A Princess St. |
| your area, I'll send one in return.  Send to >| Kingston, Ontario  |
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Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
From: jim@coral.aiss.uiuc.edu (jim crouse)
Subject: Re: Reggae terms
Reply-To: jim@coral.aiss.uiuc.edu
Organization: AISS/Telecom University of Illinois -- Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:32:02 GMT

In article <ljefptINN285@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, dudley@treefort.Corp.Sun.COM (Dudley Gaman) writes:
> 
> >|> Natty:  As in "natty dread"
> >
> >	Natty, meaning "smart in appearance", is usually used to describe
> >  dreadlocks, but can be used alone, for example, "Ten times worse if you 'ave a
> >  natty".
> 
    Ok here is one that we get a good laugh at:

     From the Wailing Souls cd.........Picky Picky Head....... what does this mean ?

     Reggae Clubs.....anyone ever been to DA-Bus in Negril, Ja.

                      (  this is my kind of a Reggae club )

 

   keep a cool head mon,


   jim @coral.aiss.uiuc.edu

     

 
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
From: jimd@psg.com (Jim Dorman)
Subject: Renegades of Funk?
Organization: Pacific Systems Group, Portland Oregon US
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 23:58:07 GMT

I'm looking for anything by the Renegades of Funk.  Not quite reggae, but
it has been known to make its way there.

LPs, CDs (ha!), 8-tracks, cassettes, bootlegs, it doesn't matter.  I need
some of this stuff.  Thanks.


Jim the Juggler, a.k.a.:  jimd@m2xenix.psg.com
From: dudley@treefort.Corp.Sun.COM (Dudley Gaman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: Re: Iron, Lion, Zion
Date: 22 Dec 1992 16:20:13 GMT
Organization: Invictus
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dudley@treefort.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: treefort.corp.sun.com


> > I keep hearing "Iron, Lion, Zion" on the radio and I'm wondering what
> > the deal is on this song.  If it was recorded >10 years ago, why does it
> > sound so contemporary??  Did they remix/re-record the song recently?  Maybe
> > Bob was just far ahead of his time.
> 
> A local radio station here is touting the 'new' "Iron,Lion,Zion" tune
> as something Rita found a tape of after he died and had it remixed for
> the recently released 'Box Set' on CD. 

The version I've heard on the radio is different than the song on the box
set.  The radio version has more keyboards.  I'd guess that the version on
the box set is the original and the "air play" version has been disco'd up
for more commercial appeal.

Dudley
.



Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
From: sh0001@medtronic.COM (Scott Hansohn)
Subject: Re: Bob Marley Albums
Organization: Medtronic, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:59:25 GMT

Gilford T. Hapanyengwi (gilford@vuse.vanderbilt.edu) wrote:
: I am in the process of collecting Bob Marley's Music on CDs.  Since
: quite a number of the songs are repeated in different albums;  I was
: wondering if there is some minimal set of CDs I could buy to cover all
: the music?  Feel free to send me email or to post to the group if you
: think your response is of general interest.

I have both the boxed CD set and Legend.  They compliment each other nicely.
Get them both.

--s
From: fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister)
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: Re: Cool runnin', mon.
Date: 22 Dec 1992 21:10:15 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu

In article <BzoF0G.KH@umassd.edu> pmsc13sg@UMASSD.EDU writes:
>    Aieee, rasta computer mon. Ja. In the States, mon, eets garbage in, garbage 
                                ^^
                                  \ This should be "Jah".


>out. Ja. But in Kingston, mon, eets GANGA in, GANGA out. Aieee! Ja!
                                     ^^^^^
                                         \ Ganja

>    How's about a spliff, mon? Where's Ricco?
>================================================================================
>	"In that world, you'll be able to rise in the morning with the spirit
>you had known in your childhood: that spirit of eagerness, adventure and cer-
>tainty which comes from dealing with a rational universe."
>                                                              AYN RAND
>================================================================================
>Stephen Grossman <PMSC13SG@UMASS.EDU>
>================================================================================


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From: mike@jammin.nosc.mil (mike pawka)
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: We be Jammin'
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:00:45 GMT
Organization: NRaD


	Well, it took a while, but we made it. I'm planning on keeping a "Reggae"
archives on this host, jammin.nosc.mil. Things like faq's, lyrics, gifs, and
anything else we come up with will be stored and available via anonymous ftp.
Thanks to all who voted for the group. If you can display gif files, decode the
file below and enjoy.

							One Love,
							Mike


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From: mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: Re: UB40
Date: 30 Dec 92 15:12:49 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <BzsJtE.Dr7@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, pms26964@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Phil Scopes) writes:
> mcginnisj@woods.ulowell.edu writes:
> 
>>Greetings,
>>	I was just wondering if anyone had any comments on the group UB40.
>>I know that they are supposedly reggae, but I heard they weren't very good.
>>Any comments or opinions??
> 
>>							-Jim
> 
> I happen to like UB40.  I discovered them, as well as reggae in general, 
> when they did their recording of Red Red Wine.  Since then, I had heard 
> other reggae bands, and it seems as if it's all the same, but I like all
> reggae music because of its simplicity.

Huh?  Have you heard "Playing Us Too Close" by Third World, or "Redemption
Song" by Marley?  or the many Burning Spear, Peter Tosh, Culture etc. etc.
songs which ar far from simplistic?

UB40 is just a commercial take off who happen to make a lot of money and are
popular.  Don't swamp a blanket statement on reggae from your judgment of them
and their ilk.

> -- 
> * Phil Scopes (pms26964@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu)
> * University of Illinois
> * Champaign/Urbana

McBean
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From: mike@jammin.nosc.mil (mike pawka)
Subject: Re: Great Idea
Organization: NRaD
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:57:05 GMT

	In San Diego, there are many clubs which feature local bands one to two
times per week. "Winston's" in Ocean Beach is supposed to be the best. In Solana
Beach in North County, we have the "Belly Up" which has top acts a few times per
year. I have seen "Israel Vibration", "Roots Radics", "Pablo Moses", "U-Roy",
"Big Youth", and the "Mighty Diamonds" there in the last few years. Best of all,
I go with a friend who knows someone there and we get in for FREE! There is also
a club in Claremont which used to be called the "Bachannal", then "Sound-FX"
which has had some good shows, saw "Yellowman" and "Black Uhuru" there.

							Mike
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From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Reggae terms
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 06:59:13 GMT

How's about defining "rankin'" too? I assume the context is something
like "a high ranking official" as opposed to "his dreads were..." :^) 

  - Malcolm  
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