From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Newsgroups: alt.discrimination
Subject: Re: Whites Critical of African-Americans
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:16:44 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

guillory@crhc.uiuc.edu (Stanford Guillory) writes:
>rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:
>>in school, at work, and off-hours.  However I am not going to give an
>>Affirmative Action beneficiary the same initial level of confidence

>That's a shame, because every successful black person you
>know is an Affirmative Action beneficiary. Every single
>god-damned one.

Nonsense.  I work with one, for instance, who graduated from high
school with an A average, and more than high enough SATs to get into
the college he wanted to without any race-norming.  He's been hired
here not because he's black, but because he's extremely competent.

Is your opinion of blacks really that low?


>Only two explanations could explain why you would make the above
>statement.  You are either a racist, or you don't even know what
>Affirmative Action is. My bet is on the latter.

Why don't you let us know what your individual and yet godlike
interpretation of AA is?


>>that I am going to give to someone who made it without such benefits.

>Yeah, and I am not going to give the same respect to a white
>boy who grew up in the suburbs as I am to a real man who
>survived the ghetto. I am not going to have confidence
>in a man who had the benefit of not having to fear for
>his life every day, and not having to watch his friend be
>murdered, at least not as much confidence as I will in a man
>who didn't have those benefits.

Really.  And these you see as qualifications for a job?  I'm not sure
if I want to work with someone who's been in constant fear every day
of their life, probably much too paranoid and jumpy.  "So, Mr. Jones,
how many years of job experience have you had?  Good, good...  Now,
how many of your friends have you seen murdered?  Really?  Excellent.
And have you been in constant fear every day of your life?  No?
Pity."


>>I don't see AA making blacks look inferior, I see it making the
>>individual blacks who make it when AA is in place look inferior.  Even
>>if they weren't a beneficiary of it.

>Tell me, Ron. What is the difference between looking inferior and
>being inferior? 

Someone who has inferior qualifications for the job.  If the company
has an AA program, even the most superior candidate can be hurt by the
suspicion that his biggest qualification was his skin color.


>>>Long before there was AA the attitude that blacks are inferior to whites
>>>existed. 

>>Of course.  It's good of us to reinforce that.

>Yeah, it would be even better if we would forget it, huh? This
>from a guy who you just know has  said, at some time in his life,
>"Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it".

Sorry.  Too cliche.  Nice of you to play revisionist on my history as
well, though.


>>>Whites just can't face up to the
>>>reality that they aren't as intellegent as they think they are.

>>Sigh, it must be nice to be a minority and be able to just fire off
>>racist comments without a care in the world.

>You seem to be able to do it and not lose any sleep.

No, go ahead.  Show me a racist statement of mine, in full context.
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