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From: royd@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Roy Daniel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: X-Cutionner's song
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:58:36 GMT
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Organization: Universite de Montreal

In article <Af3Gpm200iV1I4_FRL@andrew.cmu.edu> jh20+@andrew.cmu.edu (Joe Nathan Haralson, II) writes:
>Let me set the tone by saying that if the X-groups know that it is
>Stryfe and not Cable who shot Prof. X, why the hell do they still have
>X-Force locked up. 
>
>Since when has Psylock been able to interface with machines.
>
>Wolverines ribs don't shatter.
>
You're entirely right, there. I found it very tiresome to always see Logan get
hit since he's the one with the healing factor. Also, it is to notice that the
only wound sustained to date from other mutants are a jaw broken! C'mon! There
are other parts of the anatomy left! Be inventive!
From: Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Quicksilver Question
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 09:29:51 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

I'm sorry.  X-Factor #87 is out in December.  

PAD
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From: jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jonathan M Lennox)
Subject: Re: Graymalkin Bound
Reply-To: jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jonathan M Lennox)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 07:06:49 GMT

In article <Bxw3Fr.HDG@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cjp53999@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Cory James Padfield) writes:
>   According to the Handbook to the Marvel Universe, the location of the
>   X-mansion is 1407 Graymalkin Lane, Salem Center, Westchester, New York.

So, would anyone who lives around that area care to confirm if (a)
there really is a Graymalkin Lane, and (b) if there really is a #1407
on it?

--
Jonathan Lennox
jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
From: tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Thanatos)
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Subject: Re: Quicksilver Question
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:56:38 GMT
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Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In article <BxtxIF.7Er@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> stevenra@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (Alex Stevens) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.062557.13907@news.columbia.edu> jmw20@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Joshua Michael Wolf) writes:
>>
>>>In <97689@netnews.upenn.edu> fhuang@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (EL FUMON) writes:
>>Ahhh, who knows?  How does the Invisible Woman see? 
>
>	Actually, that is an easy one.  If my memory serves me, she actually
>bends the light around her, making her appear "invisible."  Therefore,
>she subconsciously allows light being bent to reflect other objects' light,
>which gives any human the ability to perceive it.  Remember, even though she
>doesn't do it much anymore, she has made certain articles of clothing disappear,such as a mask on someone..how I don't know, I'll leave THAT up to the
>real scientists
>
Yeah, but if she's bending ALL light away from herself (to render her invisible)
none can penetrate to strike the cornea, allowing her to see.  She can't
have it both ways.  For her to "see," the light HAS to strike the 
back of her eyes. 

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From: morpheus@cco.caltech.edu (Kynn Bartlett)
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Subject: Re: Quicksilver Question
Date: 21 Nov 1992 13:07:39 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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In article <97689@netnews.upenn.edu> fhuang@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (EL FUMON) writes:
>   So if Quicksilver of X-Factor possesses superhuman speed, how is verbal
>communication between him and others possible? Let me explain what I'm
>trying to ask. You see, other's speech would seem like 45's played at
>33 speed while his own speech would seem like it was being played at 78
>speed. What gives? 
>
>-bogueman

PAD, I believe, touched on something similar to this, once...so the theory
is his:

Maybe he -does- have to slow down when he talks to normal folks, and maybe
everyone else DOES seem to be talking real slow, from his standpoint.

Think about it, and his general contempt for, well, everyone except himself
and his general bad attitute.  How would -you- feel in such a case?

				--Kynn

(How DID Jamie do that shirt thing?)
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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 19:06:04 -0500 
From: Chris Holly <Maverick+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Mistake in Marvel Masterpieces

Excerpts from netnews.rec.arts.comics.xbooks: 22-Nov-92 Mistake in
Marvel Masterpieces Jerry B. Ray, Jr.@prism. (615)

> Howdy.  Just wanted to point out a boo-boo i noticed while i was looking
> through my set of Marvel Masterpiece cards.  On the 'Strong Guy' card
> they list his first cover appearance as X-Men #254 and show that cover.
> Unfortunately, the large, strong bald guy on that cover is Sunder, the
> Morlock, not Guido.  Just a brain cramp, i suppose...

> JRjr


> -- 
> 'Let's not pretend to justify, Rather amend where treasures lie.  Straight
> through the heart peace can be found.  That's where you start, not all 
> around...'  Extreme -- Rest In Peace
> #####  vapspwi@prism.gatech.EDU  ########  Jerry B. Ray, Jr.  ################


	That's okay.... Skybox/Impel apparently often confuses these two
charaters... In the Marvel Universe Cards Series I (I think it was
series I... it could have been II, I'm at work right now and can't
check). There is a picture of Strong Guy on the front of the X-men card,
but on the back of the card they call him Sunder....  The funny thing
is, Sunder was already dead by the time these cards saw print(he was
killed by the Reavers on Muir Island).  Strong Guy has never technically
been a member of the X-men... Sunder was a member of the X-men of Muir
Island(along with Forge, Banshee, Legion, Moria, Amanda, Brigadeer
Stuart, Tom, and Sharon, and Lorna) but I'm not sure you could consider
these official X-men.  By the same token... I suppose you could consider
Guido, an X-man for a day on account of his stint on the Island during
the Shadow King Scenario.  

	And by the way.... yes, Rogue's Eyes do change color when she acquires
the personality of Carol Danvers.

	-Chris Holly (the Maverick)

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From: donald@dvinci.USask.Ca (David Donald)
Subject: Re: Girls school from heck
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:48:44 GMT

caw@gtech.com (Christopher A. White) writes:

>In the _Girls school from heck_ series in Excalibur, Kitty's powers
>were dampened at St. Cerils. Has any explanation been offered yet?

No.  Actually, I think Kitty herself wondered about that in a thought bubble 
not that long ago.  May be wrong on that point, tho.

On another... She's 15.  When offered the car to drive, she said she wasn't 
even old enough.... not for another year.  Courtney responded with "rules are 
made to be broken" or something along those lines...

Dave

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From: rekle@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Rick Ekle (CompSci))
Subject: Re: Cable & Stryfe- my Theory
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 02:11:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.005220.14166@mail.cornell.edu> Dave Horlick <drh2@cornell.edu> writes:
>Okay, here's my theory about what's going on with Cable & Stryfe. I
>apologize in advance if someone else has already posted this.
>
>Now when Nathan arrives, there are X-men around to care for him and raise
>him. He grows up and becomes Cable, and eventually comes back in time.
>Well, what does everyone think?

One question though.  If Cable is the 'good' Nathan who was raised by
a loving group of X-men what is the explanation for all of Cable's 
bionics? (Mechanical arm, eye etc.)  I get the impression that these
are 'repairs' after some heavy battles he's been in.
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From: royd@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Roy Daniel)
Subject: Re: Wolverine #65: the best yet! (SPOILERS)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:02:50 GMT

You have a point when you say that Wolverine was hitten by much stronger guys
without so much dammage; it intrigued me too. What I figured out is that this
time, Wolverine was not trying to dodge the blow, but rather expected it. Believe me, it makes a hell of a difference!

I couldn't help but notice that Wolverine was bleeding from Sabertooth's blows at the beginning of issue #65 (Tex has a way with blood!). Another theory is maybe
that Wolverine is a sort of "realistic" comic, hence the X-Men are superhero
action. And, as you know, superheros quite never bleed. Actually, I think the
wound received by Logan was the most seveire received by a Marvel character.
Anybody has seen a more severe wound shown explicitly?

IMHO, I think this scene was a little overdone, but served to accentuate the
drama. I mean, how can somebody dislocate an adamantium jaw AND throw an eyeball
out of his orbit in a single blow, and without superior strength?

OK, the guy may have been the Incredible Hulk in disguise...


Daniel Roy,
for the "Voyageurs sans Permis"

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From: clark@netcom.com (Sue Clark)
Subject: Re: Who's the best leader?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 10:18:16 GMT

jim@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jim Myers) writes:


>Storm is the best X-leader by far.  Not only does the character have strong leadership skills, she can comunicate better than Cyclops.  There's no question, Storm's tops.  Remember Uncanny X-men 201?

Unfortunately, I do.  That's one of the reasons that reading the current
X-issues is kind of depressing.  I just re-read 201 about a week ago.
It's a fun issue.  Has the 'life at the mansion' stuff, along with the
'who's the best leader'.  Amazing...plot AND character development, all
in one issue.

::sigh::

Sue

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From: caw@gtech.com (Christopher A. White)
Subject: Re: Kitty's Age (was: a few more movie cast ideas)
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:39:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.103835.26457@beaver.cs.washington.edu> tsang@cs.washington.edu (Donald Tsang) writes:
>Since Kitty's my favorite character (ever since Doug Ramsay was killed
>off),

Amen to That!!!


Topher
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From: rss19@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Richard S Sucgang)
Subject: Re: X-Cutionner's song
Reply-To: rss19@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Richard S Sucgang)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 06:47:38 GMT

In article <Af3Gpm200iV1I4_FRL@andrew.cmu.edu> "Joe Nathan Haralson, II" <jh20+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>Since when has Psylock been able to interface with machines.
>
>Wolverines ribs don't shatter.
>
Yeah, and the name of the villain is HardDrive,
not MAINFRAME! get it straight!

-rich


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From: steevesm@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: Re: X-Men Movie Casting
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:34:47 GMT

In article <9211182229.AA23150@PCS.CNU.EDU>, rglass@PCS.CNU.EDU (Randall Glass) writes:
> OK People.. let's get realistic here.

Ummm...I don't want to sound like I'm flaming you, but those points have no
relevance to the thread of the movie.  Everyone understood (and made mention
on occasion) to some of the points you had.  This was just along the lines
of a Christmas Wish List.  If we could have it, screw the budget.  Thus all
of the debate was over why X was a better actor/actress than Y for the part
of Z.  That's all.

Don't rain on our parade, hunh????

Let us have our fun.....

:(

-darkelf
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From: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Subject: X-Men Movie Cast - A Compiled List
Organization: McGill University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:49:02 GMT

Hi.  I just saw somebody do a post simply to suggest Julia Roberts as
Jean Grey.  Clearly, this person didn't know that this suggestion had
been made (at least once) before.  I'm therefore posting the

          Compiled List of Suggestions for X-Men Movie Cast

once again.  Another good reason for doing this is I've just reacquired
misc and I see there was a Casting Wolverine thread (we're they all
From: EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu (Ernie Oporto)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Wolverine #65: the best yet! (SPOILERS)
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:10:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92323.121042EAO102
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Pennylvania State University

In article <1992Nov18.154458.26210@cc.umontreal.ca>, royd@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Roy
Daniel) says:
>Wolverine gets hit real hard (his jaw is dislocated, and his eyeball is out);
> before he hits back, Jean Grey arrives.

The problem with this is that while they were trying to inject some realism
into his fight, Wolverine's fought guys MUCH stronger than that guy, such as
Sabretooth, and hasn't come close to having his jaw dislocated.  I'd rather
keep in with the consistency that have that extra realism now.  Thought it
was humorous.  =)  The only time I can remember this is during Wolverine's
fight with Sabretooth during the Mutant Massacre when Wolvie's face is
actually puffed and swollen from the pounding he gets.
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From: dsblack@iastate.edu (Vilkata TDK)
Subject: Re: Kitty's Age (was: a few more movie cast ideas)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 02:53:44 GMT

In <dsblack.722117445@vincent2.iastate.edu> I write:

>In <1992Nov18.110616.29019@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jay Elmore) writes:

>>In article <1992Nov17.195352.23904@gtech.com> caw@gtech.com (Christopher A. White) writes:
>>>In article <19004.2b02773d@ecs.umass.edu> you write:
>>>>Any way, I agree with the poster who said Gabrielle Cartersis (although,
>>>>I don't know if she changed her name now that she's married) who
>>>>plays Andrea Zuckerman on 90210 should play Kitty.  If people can
>>>>believe a 30 year old actress playing an 18 year old on TV, then
>>>>they can believe the same thing in the movies (does Kitty even have an age?)
>>>
>>>Last time I checked she got (yet another) 14th Birthday party from 
>>>Saturyn (disguised as Courtney Ross). Or was it a 15th? Either way, the
>>>girl is a long way from 18. She's also Jewish, so we'd want to keep
>>>that in mind when selecting an actress (NO to Kathy Ireland).

>NO to Kathy anyway--Kathy's pretty tall, being a supermodel.  (See the group
>alt.supermodels for more info here).  Kitty's supposed to be something like
>5'6" (I think--maybe 5'5").

>>>What's the bottom line on her age - 14 or 15?

>>Adding more fuel to the confusion, I thought the party that Courtney threw
>>was her "sweet sixteen"...

>I don't know--remember Courtney gave/loaned/something her a Jaguar.  Y'know,
>Jaguar, Kitty, cats...  Anyway, it was mentioned that Kitty was to young to
>drive.  It was in England, but I think (some of you Brits can confirm or 
>correct this) the age is still 16.  So she might've been 15.  Don't know...
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Somebody in U.K. emailed me--he sez the age is 17, so this leaves a small
discrepency.  Somebody said that Kitty said she only had one year to go, and
I seem to remember that.  Yet it has also been established recently that it was
her 15th.  I think since she's an American, she can drive at 16, even in 
England, as long as she has her American license (not _totally_ sure of the 
laws, but this at least seems logical).  So I guess the driving age in U.K. is
probably irrelevant.  But for those who wanted to know, it's 17.
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From: aj005b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Hulk get PO'd big time)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Who's the best leader?
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:30:24 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

In article <By3DEJ.92C@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> jim@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jim Myers) writes:
>
>Storm is the best X-leader by far.  Not only does the character have strong leadership skills, she can comunicate better than Cyclops.  There's no question, Storm's tops.

 	Just a couple of reason's why storm isn't the best X-leader,
she led the X-men to their deaths, she abondonded her team to hang
out with a two-bit thief form the bayou, she can't keep a boyfriend,
she alienates just about everybody with her "strong" attitude,
she went absolutely psycho in the last Morlock story, and most of all,
she's currently doing diddly-squat to save the professor.  
	Storm may have been a good leader, but now she's not only
snobbish, she's also brooding.  Very bad qualities.

				The Dark Ghost has spoken...

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From: barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Cable/Stryfe (again, *sigh*)
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:23:20 CST
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1992Nov23.205106.16495@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, aj005b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Hulk get PO'd big time) writes:
 
> 	Some people have been saying that if Nathan (Cable and Stryfe) is
> Scott and Jean's son, the little tike was raised by Askani.  Remember her. 
> She was the person who went to the past to save Nathan from the techno-virus
> and raise him to save the future...

Umm, actually, I believe she said something like she was giving up
her existence to go back after little Natey-poo.  So I doubt she
raised him, though her allies may well have.  The reason she said it
was a suicide mission was that it required all the energy she was
composed of to get Nate to the future.

-Drizzt


The dark elf has spoken.  :+)
Organization: Freshman, IM - H&SS Track, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Al Milgrom/X-FACTOR
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 14:42:42 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa
  <1992Nov22.231633.6589@cs.unca.edu> <visser.722540182@convex.convex.com>

Having just seen the photocopies of X-Factor #87--

Joe Quesada's work is superb, and Al Milgrom bashers will be cordially
invited to eat their words.

PAD
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From: mcollins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Killans - First And Last And Always)
Subject: Re: Maybe, just maybe there is method to the madness
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 00:34:22 GMT

In article <0f3jAYi00iV0M4tHxM@andrew.cmu.edu> sw3r+@andrew.cmu.edu (Steven Kelly Woyicki) writes:
>In regard to the X-cutioner problems that we've been moaning about:
>
>-the Techno Virus gunshot:

Hey, how about remembering to put spoiler warnings on stuff like this?
Wouldn't hurt, now, would it?

Mike
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:31:08 -0500 
From: "Michael J. Keating" <mk56+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: X-men movie dream cast

How about Julia Roberts as Jean Grey?
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From: caw@gtech.com (Christopher A. White)
Subject: Girls school from heck
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:52:46 GMT

In the _Girls school from heck_ series in Excalibur, Kitty's powers
were dampened at St. Cerils. Has any explanation been offered yet?


Topher
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From: wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (August Paul Yang)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Rogue's eyes (was Re: XMEN:TAS-load of crap)
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:44:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: jhunix.1992Nov18.174414.23823
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore

In article <BxvyEw.J5s@ns1.nodak.edu> dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry) writes:
>August Paul Yang and I continue our in-depth discussion:
>Yeah, NC intitiated it, which is equally odd because, like I've said, she's
>never shown the capability to do this in any other appearance.
*shrug*  I've seen no evidence to state otherwise.  There have been no
instances that the "chain reaction" didn't work.  Then again it's rare
that people would link up just so they could absorbed into Rouge.
Maybe if there was an instance where the X-men needed to act as if they
were of one mind...

>>August Paul Yang *hates* Jim Lee's writing
>Careful, August! You're one half the way to the dreaded Dave Position!
Dreaded Dave Position?  What's that?  And why is it "dreaded"?  I've
never seen anything the Jim Lee wrote that I like, including
that idiotic "X-traitor" plot thread he initiated and the very poorly
executed "Death of Mojo" thingy.  (Doesn't even rate a story in my book)

August Paul Yang wonder if his stating that he's not too fond of Byrne either
would cause a reation.
wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
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