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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:24:34 EDT
From:         Tony Gould <D1ARG@AKRONVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: seals

Mara,

The Univeristy of Akron just implemented a new transcript system which
does not require an embossed seal.  We use safety paper with very
specific instructions to the reader to show them how to prove that
the transcript is genuine.  We use a Xerox 4030 laser printer and
we print the university logo and registrar's signature on the
transcript.

We do allow the students to receive transcripts but our computer
application will print "Official Transcript Issued to Student" on
the transcript.  Other transcripts do not have this comment noted
on the transcript.

If you need additional information please contact me at the following
address:

Tony Gould
Administrative Project Leader, Student Records
The University of Akron
302 Buchtel Common
Akron, OH  44325-3501

(216) 972-6386 - VOICE
(216) 972-5238 - FAX
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In article <19920902.090457.JHOLCOMB@GTRI01>, "Holcombe, John"
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From:         Bob Brown <BBROWN@HARPERVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Remote console support for VSE in a VM environment.

LOGOUT from Macro IV.  We have used it for years.  It works great!

-boB

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 09:08:59 -0500
From:         b.mcdonald@DPC.DPC.UMASS.EDU
Subject:      problem tracking system
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I am seeking information on any products you may be using to track production
problems or a change managment system.  I have an IBM 3084 installed which we
process all administrative processing on.  I am trying to find a system,
either mainframe or pc which we can log abends and other info that will assist
us in tracking and resolving problems.

Also, we are presently converting from ADC2 to CA-Scheduler.  Has anyone been
through this that may be able to give us some info on how you proceeded?
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 08:39:00 EDT
From:         "BILL PATE, ADMIN. SERVICES,
              PATE@VXC.UNCWIL.EDU" <PATE@UNCWIL.BITNET>
Subject:      AT&T VOICE RESPONSE EQUIPMENT

My university is looking into Voice Response for student information and
registration (IA/SCT's SIS Plus). I would like to hear from anyone with
knowledge or experience with AT&T hardware, such as Conversant VIS or
MAP/1000. Up to this point I had only heard about Periphonics and
Perception Technology which was makreted by IA.  Thanks.
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Bill Pate, Administrative Computing, UNC Wilmington
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Try INTERVOICE out of Dallas at 214 497-8719 or TALX in St. Louis at 314
434-0046.  Syntellect, mentioned by Marla Thomas is the largest vendor in
the voice response business.  I have used them for business applications in
private industry and know that UCLA and ASU (Arizona) use them for
registration.  You can reach their Education rep in New York at 516 348
7474.  His name is Gordon Dion.

ELAINE CANNATA
ADMINISTRATIVE DATA PROCESSING
UNC - CHAPEL HILL
919 966 5818
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 11:23:26 CST
From:         Slemo Warigon <SW5540@ETSUADMN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Relational Database Choice
              3 Sep 1992 11:08:37 CST from <BILLC@HOUSING.MSSTATE.EDU>

On Thu, 3 Sep 1992 11:08:37 CST Bill Chapman said:
>> Date:          Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:26:39 CST
>> From:          Slemo Warigon <SW5540%ETSUADMN.BITNET@VM1.NoDak.EDU>
>
>> Which of these relational database packages are most productive and
>> user-friendly: R:Base, Paradox, Alpha Four, Quartz?
>>
>> We've Paradox and it works great, but its table connections lack
>> flexibility (achieved only thru multi-forms). Perhaps I'm wrong, but
>> having used R:Base I know how easy tables can be connected with R:Base
>> as oppossed to what I've seen with Paradox. Paradox works well with the
>> ObjectVision we have, and that is the bright side of it.
>
>Strange.....   Our experience was just the opposite.  We had R:Base
>applications and are converting them to Paradox for the simplicity
>of use, additional capabilities (including the super power of multi-
>table queries), and greater level of support.
>
>One you haven't mentioned is Oracle.  Our mainframe system is being
>replaced by an Oracle-based system, and we are experimenting with
>Oracle-PC so we will be able to interface with that system whenever
>it gets in place.  Oracle requires much of your computing resource,
>e.g., 8 Meg RAM, 40 Meg hard disk, etc., but appears, in our environment,
>to be the long-range choice.
>--

Now that's really very interesting! Still, tell me two things, Bill:

    1) How much easier and flexible is it to connect database tables in
       Paradox as oppossed to R:Base?

    2) Which of the two offers is packaged complete with SQL feature and
       suited for use on a stand-alone PC?

I really would love to be convinced on whether or not I should return to
my old Paradox. I'm sure others would like to know too.

Of course, I've not forgotten Oracle.... I just opted to leave it out
apparently because our needs don't necessitate its inclusion in our
choice of an ideal relational database. It simply is too huge for us!

Slemo Warigon
Internal Audits, East Texas State University
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From:         Pauline Hodges --D65 x2701-- <PRH65@CAS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re(2): the New Yorker
Comments: To: Tom Frenkel <FRENKEL@cpmail-am.cis.columbia.edu>

>Yes, I liked that a lot too.  Also, there was a heartbreaking but
>fascinating story about a girl who was raised for virtually her whole
>childhood, bound to her bed -- did you see that?  And then recently,
>a terrific profile of the pianist Richard Goode.
>                                                    --Tom


Yes, the other recent article that stood out for me was the one about the girl
raised with almost no stimulation and scientists' attempts to use her to find
out about how language is acquired.  Unhappy ending:  she was used and abandoned
by the scientists who took advantage of her.  But lots of good stuff about how
we acquire language.

Haven't read the one about the pianist.

--Polly
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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1992 15:35:00 EST
From:         MARGARET WRIGHT <MWRIGHT@TRINCC.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Trollope

Go for it! Once you get hooked on 900 page novels you won't be able to stop!

There must be others reading Trollope since for the first time his works are
being reissued in two editions - one by the Folio Society, the other a more
scholarly edition.

I guess only a 19th century freak would have read Tim's reading list for one
week and think -why such short books, no Dickens, no Trollope, no Hardy, no
George Eliot.  I don't do speed reading although Dr. Maurice Tauber at
Columbia University Library School did assign readings on the basis that any
cataloger should learn to read a page with only three glances and retain all
information.  After graduate school I found that I was reading non-fiction
at a speed of 100 pages an hour and fiction at 200 pages an hour.  Trollopes
was marvellous because I didn't feel cheated that the book was finished too
soon.  In order to read most 20th century fiction I had to deliberately slow
myself down (by consciously reading every word and punctuation mark).

Have fun - Trollope wrote about 44 novels.  You could read all of Dickens in a
few months according to his latest biographer, Peter Ackroyd, but it will take
longer for Trollope.  Trollope first acquired a bad press from academia
because he revealed his methodical working habits (and possibly because he
enjoyed hunting as much as writing).  But his characters stay with one.  So much
 so that Monsignor Ronald Knox took fictional descendants one generation after
(actually not very well done) and Angela Thirkell two generations after (30
novels in all).

Hope you try more Trollope and become a fellow Trollopian.

        Cheers and good reading!
                Maggie Wright
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 13:52:00 EDT
From:         IAN YORK <YORK@MCMASTER.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Two-minute mini-survey!

re Godel, Escher, Bach:  yes, I read Mind's I because I had read and enjoyed
G,E,B.  Mind's Eye picks up on a few of the themes he discussed in that,
and isn't as confused or confusing: the short-story/commentary format
keeps them more strictly on topic.  Quite highly recommended.
        Ian
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Millie, hope you enjoy hanging out about Hrothgar's hallowed, hellishly
harrowing hall.  May the Grendel of your heaven-hailing gestalt gesture
furiously to bruit the boon that must lie deep asleep somewhere in Byatt
broadly forth.

in the immortal words of Groucho:  Beowulf?  Why not be a wulf?

Caninically yours,
mbnotmccoll
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1992 17:53:21 -0500
From:         "VALENTINE M. SMITH" <CDELL@UMKCVAX1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: reading

My best guess is that I read paragraph by paragraph, "taking in" the whole
paragraph at one, two, or three looks - but I'm really not sure. I've not
been tested in twenty years, I just know I read some material VERY fast -
fiction, SF, westerns, detective/thrillers, that kind of stuff, roughly 3
pages a minute - whereas I can only read history at just under 1 page a
minute, or less. Ditto philosophy (even slower actually), political material
or bios. I just love to read, and started at 4 years of age, so now have 40+
years of doing so. I have contended for a decade that any reader who reads
regularly (every week at least) will increase their speed naturally just
BY the process of reading - the best way, in my feeble opinion. VMS
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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1992 07:28:36 PDT
From:         Tim Bowden <tcbowden@CLOVIS.FELTON.CA.US>
Subject:      Re: my syllabus

JO> Can I be the first to make an obvious comment? Only one female
JO> author seems a little unbalanced -


What's the other one like?  I count two, but I feel Mary
Shelley like some of her characters was quite overwhelmed
by her monster -

Agree about the gender, though.  Tradition does tend to
trot out the same old ponies year after year, while
teaching would seem to provide a wonderful occasion
for new and exciting discoveries - like right here
we have recently A B Byatt and Angela Carter.


What's even a traditional reading list without George
Eliot, anyway?
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 22:24:00 CDT
From:         S1MBM@ISUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Zen

Ian, here are those titles:

Peter Matthiessen, *Nine-Headed Dragon River*
Gary Snyder, *Earth Household*

mbmcd
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Date: 28 Aug 92 17:18:23 GMT
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              28, 92 12:31 pm

>
> > Date:          Fri, 28 Aug 1992 11:42:00 EDT
> > From:          IAN YORK <YORK@MCMASTER.BITNET>
>
> > Have you read _The Mind's I_, edited by Douglas Hofstadter and someone
> > else - Martin Gardner, I think; a collection of short stories and essays,
 with
> > commentaries by the editors, on the nature of self vs. non-self, concious-
> > ness, self-awareness etc.
>

I really like the books that Alan Watts wrote on Zen and Taoism and a
few other eastern philosophies... he was very good at translating the
ideas (as well as the words) into western language.

My favorite book on the subject is called _The Psychology of Consciousness_
by Robert Ornstein (look for the 3rd edition). He explains the mechanics
of consciousness and how eastern and western psychologies compare. To put
it a little directly: reading this book completely changed the way I look
at reality... he made it all "make sense" to me.


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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:19:05 EDT
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: The Rooshians

On Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:48:00 CDT <S1MBM@ISUVAX> said:
>Timmie, I object to the notion that Dos. Tol. and Chek. are "better than
>Dickens."  The first of the three, perhaps (and he professed to love the
>dickens out of Chucky D!).  It's real fashionable not to like Dickens these
>days, but I'll take him over the brilliant but boring George Eliot any day.
>
>mbmnotmccoll

Good.  You can have the unfashionable Dickens, and I'll scarf up the b-but-b
Eliot.  Dickens is down to his last chance with me:  I'll read just one more
Dickens before I give him up; if he passes, then he gets *one* more chance,
and so on.

So far, he's managed to extend his string to 5 novels or so, but I have the
feeling his time will run out one of these days :-)
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 10:27:41 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The Rooshians
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              Frenkel" at Aug 26, 92 10:14 am

Note my little beanie hat: I am a new Subber.  Anybody out there interested in
the Russians, Chekhov, Dostoevsky, Tolstoy, and moreski... I am very
old-fashioned, with plans to reread Don Quixote; to do a complete read of A la
recherche (not soon, though, unless I win the lottery); also like to play with
Biblical texts (now working on Jonah).  Yes, I am an ESCAPEE from the academic
literary world (dumped a job with tenure); just curious to know if anyone is
interested in this kind of stuff (in human rather than "deconstructionist"
terms)  I am treading cautiously on the unfamiliar waters of this net.
if I am "out of line" just let me know.  Sonia the Mad Rooshian
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From: ednschmi@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au (John Schmidt)
Subject: Re: Speed Reading
Organization: ITC, Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia
Date: 27 Aug 92 01:35:32 GMT

the First and Only Nude Vaxer <FSCLL@ALASKA.BITNET> writes:

>My comments regarding speed reading not being such a great idea deleted...

>>I'm with you, in theory and in my heart ofhearts - but what
>>about those of us who HAVE TO READ AND UNDERSTAND A LOT IN order to
>>to what we have to do: grad work/prof/ writing etc. : you have to both
>>ead very fast AND understand/digest/savour, otherwise the
>> reading is sueflessand the work does not get done. THAT's the rub.(I
>> am not speaking necessarily of reading literature here): what does
>> one do then?
>>
>> Agnes
>>
>> still sorry and still a pauper

Deletions

>But to really "get into" a work, I think it is necessary to slow down and
>really look at it. I agree with Ian that poetry is less conducive to speed
>reading IN GENERAL, but I think a lot of fiction should be given the time that
>poetry gets. Some writers may not demand this, but when i write, I work on
>every word and combination of words, so I thnk that it is only right that I
>get the same attention from my readers.

I agree that poetry is not suitable for "speed reading". I guess I was
basically arguing that reading quickly is often reading very well, but I
didn't qualify the position sufficiently. The other point is that I often
read simply for the effect (often quickly), whereas I also often read to
analyse why the reading has the effect (often slowly). And I agree that
fiction deserves close attention too.

>I don't agree with Ian though that it is just "word clumps" or groups (I can't
>remember the wording) that determines how a work should be read. Much poetry
>is written in a very common manner, but it is the larger groupings that make
>it-- or sometimes just one or two words in JUST the right place. I think that
>this explanation of what work demands slower reading is simplistic, which is
>probably intentional, but it could also be damaging advice in my opinion.

The best psycholinguistic analyses of the reading process all point to the
importance of chunking, i.e. processing larger units. The importance of this
is that it offers an explanation of the observation that very slow readers
often do not understand very much of what they read.

Deletions.
>fast *I* read" train of thought   :)

What constructing this posting has done for me is to get me to consider both
aesthetic and psycholinguistic aspects of reading. I'm sorry if I gave
offence with my earlier posting.

John Schmidt
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From:         MARGARET WRIGHT <MWRIGHT@TRINCC.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Trollope

"Speed reading" was (is?) a particular method which came in late 50's or early
60's but anyone who has tried to get through graduate school and work has to
develop some method.

The thing about Trollope and the other 19th century greats in England, France,
and Russia is that the novel was fairly new so that they didn't have to indulge
in experimental writing - their aim was to emulate real life in fiction.
Therefore a 900 page novel written by these authors pulls one along while
reading it.  Some 20th century authors may do the same although they may not be
part of the literary canon - I seem to remember reading Michener's *The source*
in one evening because it had to be cataloged rush for a user and I was curious
on how Michener would deal with the subject matter (and it hasn't stayed in my
memory bank - nothing that Michener has written has stayed except for his Tales
of the South Pacific).

On the other hand when I read a really good but short 20th century novel such as
*Love in the time of cholera* I find myself pausing and reflecting on the style
and deliberately prolonging the experience of reading the book for the first
time because I know that it will never be the same again.  When I reread such a
book it is good but without the prickling of the thumbs that comes with the
discovery that oh this is going to be a good read.

                Maggie Wright
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