From: underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe)
Subject: Re: Asian males aren't attractive? (was Re
Organization: Miners for a Heart of Gold
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 02:54:27 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.180603.27465@nynexst.com> clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu
Ayala) writes:
>  Well Dwight, I didn't have e-mail back then.  Maybe you can send
>  e-mail to that doctor who wanted me to get the surgery when I went
>  to him for contact lens trouble.  He claimed that all my problems
>  with my contacts were due to my single-lids (he gave some scientific
>  name on the disorder).  Then he said that as an added bonus of
>  the surgery, more guys would ask me out.  When I said I didn't
>  have any trouble with guys, he said, "Oh but I mean Chinese
>  guys."  Which was true, since not many AA guys asked me out, but
>  rather white and Hispanic guys.  Also my friend who is still

Why should I send e-mail?  After all, he did make an accurate point, which
Ms. Ayala confirmed.

>  single (J-A) and wants to date AA guys has single-lids also.  She's the
>  one who is mobbed by white guys.  And a lot of my K-A female friends
>  had the surgery done.  

Ms. Ayala shouldn't worry about her eyelids; I'm sure that they are
gorgeous.  Single-eyelids occur much more frequently among Koreans-ge
and Japanese-ge (especially Japanese-ge).

Many people (by their standard of beauty) consider Korean-ge and
Japanese-ge ladies to be _the_ standard of beauty in the Oriental-ge looks
department--i.e. much more attractive than, say, Chinese-ge ladies.  Since
Ms. Ayala said that she looks Japanese-ge (especially with the single
eyelids), I'd be willing to bet that she's gorgeous.

I can't say more; otherwise, I'll give away what I think to be beautiful.
^_^

>  Well as I explained in e-mail, it was the non-Japanese AA guys
>  who didn't like people with single eyelids.  The only group of

Let's not beat around the bush.  By "non-Japanese-ge AA", Ms. Ayala
is referring to Chinese-ge.

Well, too bad for them and their bigotry.  It's their loss that they
wouldn't go out with as gorgeous a lady as Ms. Ayala.

>  AA guys that did want to go out with me were J-A (from high
>  school to when I got married).  But there were only a few and
>  they went to different schools, or I was not available (lest
>  you think I was mobbed).

Some of the J-A are fine people.  Perhaps, Ms. Ayala should have 
worked a little harder at finding the time to go out with them.

Alas, time passes.

>  Of course it was funny sometimes because
>  I'd would be asked by Japanese tourists to help them translate
>  something.

Well, it's a compliment.  No doubt about that.

>	Just yesterday I asked my husband whether he thought my single
>	eyelids were ugly, and he said, "What do you mean?  Why do

Come on.  Gorgeous ladies like Ms. Ayala, who are the standard of
Oriental beauty, shouldn't be so self-conscious.  My gosh.  
Single-eyelids aren't ugly; in fact, they are much better looking
than double-eyelids.

>	you think I was attracted to you?"  He wishes his kids had
>	single eyelids, but since my dad already had double eyelids,
>	my son has double eyelids also.

Don't blame him.  See paragraph above.

>	I've just been brought up where a lot of my parent's friends
>	got the surgery, or made comments when I was growing up about
>...

Come on.  Ms. Ayala shouldn't ruin a good thing--single eyelids.
She should be happy about them.  She lucked out.  Not everyone is
fortunate enough to have single eyelids.  Life isn't fair, ya know.

She shouldn't get the surgery unless she's got her heart set on it.
Remember.  If she get's the surgery, she'll look like a Ch....

Well, never mind.  I'd better not say.  ^_^

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