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From: thughes@lonestar.utsa.edu (Toby . Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: funny math and physics songs
Keywords: math physics
Date: 11 Sep 92 02:00:52 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <21896@optima.cs.arizona.edu> tzf@csl.biosci.arizona.edu writes:
>In article <1992Sep10.180558.7355@schaefer.math.wisc.edu>, pemantle@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Robin Pemantle) writes:
>|>
>|> I'm trying to locate some funny songs about math and physics -- in
>|> particular the quantum version of Joni Mitchell's "Clouds" and
>|> the version of the song from Pinafore that goes, "... and now I am
>|> the Holder of a Ph.D."  I saw these once posted on an office


The classic math number of all time is "Nicolai Ivanovich Lobachevsky," by
Tom Lehrer.  It's on his first record album (that half-sized one) if you can
find it.

TH
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: Wanted Lyrics for Hacker Song
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:56:15 GMT

In article <14SEP199208571705@rover.uchicago.edu> frank@rover.uchicago.edu writes:

>I use UNIX ;
>I grep and awk ;
>I like to fork and tee ;
>I have a favorite language ;
>It's ANSI standard C ;

I use UNIX (tm) ;
>I grep and awk() ;
>I like to fork and tee()  ;
>I have a favorite language() ;
>It's ANSI standard C() ;


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From: joslyn@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Cliff Joslyn)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,alt.guitar.tab
Subject: Re: still looking for the authors of these songs
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:32:00 GMT
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center

jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger) writes:

>In article <TERRYK.92Sep9122218@fenix.encore.com>, terryk@encore.com (Terence M. Kelleher) writes:
>>
>>In article <1992Sep3.002328.14469@parc.xerox.com> putz@parc.xerox.com (Steve Putz) writes:
>>
>>
>>   Acres of Clams
>>	   (I've traveled this country all over...) [Pete Seeger]
>>Old music, from the Scotish song, "Acres of Clans"

>This _has_ to be a joke, surely.  Doesn't it?  It sounds like a
>double-barrelled parody to me, anyhow.  

I don't know where the original poster heard this, but in the late
70's Pete and Arlo were touring and protesting Seabrook and supporting
the clamshell alliance (the anti-Seabrook group). Arlo did one of his
long, silly, rambling, guitar-accompanied stories, this time about
giant walking clams. They ended by singing the traditional song we're
all referring to, with appropriate lyrics. The final line of the verse
was: "Surrounded by acres of clams".

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From: jmf@endor.harvard.edu ( ghost )
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Maura O'Connell interpretations
Date: 10 Sep 92 02:24:04 GMT
Organization: DAS Purchasing, Harvard University

re: recent discussion of O'Connell vs Wheeler on Summerfly:

A song that Maura has changed considerably in her own 
concert vs recorded version is
"When your heart is free..I'm gonna pick the lock on it"
Okay, so I don't know the title...

The recorded version has a threatening, bluesy background
& a somber reading of the lyrics...
the version she always does in concert is promising & playful,
which for this particular song is better, all around
(not that I'm not all for a threatening, bluesy approach to life in
general)
From: mchenry@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: train song tape finished
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:59:12 GMT
Organization: Georgetown University

In article <1992Sep7.230524.27326@newshost.anu.edu.au>, gerry@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (Gerry Myerson) writes:
> In article <1992Sep7.130515.1304@guvax.georgetown.edu>, mchenry@guvax.georgetown.edu writes:
>> 
>> To all who contributed, thanks very much. 
> [...]
>>     Bullgine Run                         Judy Collins            2     5
> [...]
>>     Coal Tattoo                          Judy Collins            2    48
> 
> No disrespect to Judy Collins intended, but I don't think either of these 
> songs has anything to do with trains. I'm pretty sure the first is about a 
> ship. The reference in the second to "laying down track in the hole" 
> concerns the track inside a coal mine, which I wouldn't think of as train 
> track. 
> [...]
> Gerry Myerson

My take on Bullgine Run is that a Bullgine is the device put on the front 
of a train to clear the track of snow and ice. hence the lyrics:

In another week we'll get more pay
Clear away the track and let the bullgine run
Tell me now are you most done?
heave away, haul away
off the Greenland to catch the whale
Clear away the track and let the bullgine run

If I am wrong I would really like to know.

On Coal Tattoo I thought the reference was to an injury that a fireman 
received on a train, but I could be wrong. If it's a coal train then I 
think that it's close enough. 

Bill McHenry
From: dahe@cl.cam.ac.uk (David Elworthy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Help a novice folkie!
Date: 10 Sep 92 11:44:34 GMT
Reply-To: dahe@cl.cam.ac.uk (David Elworthy)
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK

In article <92091011349@zone4.ocunix.on.ca>, peter@zone4.ocunix.on.ca
(Peter Dubiel) writes:
|> Here is my problem: I am an 18 year old student who has just
completely fallen
|> for traditional Celtic music, and wants to take up an instrument so that I
|> attempt to play my favourite music on my own...
|> 
|> I'd like to hear some recommendations on what a good instrument for a
starving
|> student whose only previous musical experience is three guitar lessons and
|> a brief stint playing rock drums.
|> 
|> As far as percussion goes, I was considering the bodhran (sp?), since I have
|> a decent sense of rhythm and some drumming experience. As for a lead
|> instrument, I've been considering the flute, but I can not afford one
|> (and from what I hear, it's not the easiest instrument to master), and was
|> considering whistle... A friend of mine is taking up harp (having sold his
|> mandolin), another friend plays recorder, and we also have interested
|> guitar and mandolin players - we were considering forming a band once we
|> achieve some degree of proficiency on our instruments.
|> 
|> I know that this is a VERY vague posting, and probably quite damned naive,
|> but ANY feedback would be appreciated. ESPECIALLY for learning traditional
|> instruments - any tips, pointers, ANYTHING would be appreciated.
|> 
|> Price ranges and sources for instruments would be helful; ones in Canada
|> doubly so. If you have anything to tell me that you could thing a complete
|> musical maroon like myself could benefit from, please follow up or mail!
|> 
|> Thanks in advance for any help...
|> 
|>      _/\     /\__Piotr F. Dubiel___peter@zone4.ocunix.on.ca__/\     /\_
|>         \_/\/                                                  \/\_/

Well, you could always go back to the guitar. It's not the most Celtic
of instruments, but it should give you some foundation for getting into
other Celtic stringed instruments, like Irish bouzouki (which probably
has some other name). Bodhran is good, but there's not a lot you can do
with it unless you have other people around [1], but given the list of
other people you mention it might not be a bad choice. Whistle is easy
to learn and very cheap (e.g. 2-3 pounds (UK) for a reasonable quality
one). A book which I liked was Robin Williamson's "The Penny Whistle
Book". Don't forget melodeon as another possibility. And of course, you
could always go for pipes, provided you (a) a good amount of time and
money, and (b) the self-confidence to not mind being nicknamed "goat blower".

-- david elworthy

[1] The main problem seems to be deciding on how the pronounce the name
of it. I'm in favour of bow-ron. "bow" as in "bend from the waist, or
take a bow" and "ron" as "da doo ron ron". Gino Lupardi also pronounces
it to rhyme with "moron". I've heard "b'r-AHn" as well.
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From: sag@hera.Berkeley.EDU (Steve Goldfield)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Where is Alison Krauss?
Date: 8 Sep 1992 17:37:08 GMT
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: hera.berkeley.edu

In article <18btn7INNbbq@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa779@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dana Lynn Gilliland) writes:
#>
#>Here is Alison Krauss' fall schedule (from Dirty Linen):
#>
#>September	6	Mt. Vernon KY
#>		11	Tulso, OK
#>		12	Owensboro KY
#>		19	Deadwood, SD
#>		25 	Owensboro KY
#>		26	Branson, MO
#>October		11	Clinton, NY
#>		24	Lancaster, PA
#>December	18-19	Alexandria, VA
#>

I've seen at least one northern California concert
announced in that period. See the CBA's Bluegrass
Breakdown for more information that I don't have
with me.

Steve Goldfield
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: rost@rgb.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost)
Subject: Re: Solomon Grundy
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: USA
Date:  8 SEP 92 07:38:20    


In article <1992Sep7.194057.22932@wl.com>, dudleyd@wl.com (Dave Dudley) writes...
>I'm wondering if anyone has some insight to the reference
>to "Solomon Grundy" in _Superman's Song_ by Brad Roberts (found on
>The Ghosts that Haunt Me by the Crash Test Dummies).
> 
>Having fallen behind on my reading of Superman comics, I at first 
>thought this might be a character from there.  However, I recently
>ran across a nusery rhyme about Solomon Grundy.  Is there any historical
>basis to this character?

Yes, there is but I forget!  Anyway, the name was used for a grotesque
white-faced monster character that appeared in comics back in the 40s, thus the
Superman reference in the song.

What does the rest of that album sound like, anyway?  I really like that one
song.

					Brian Rost @rgb.enet.dec.com

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From: darsie@eecs.ucdavis.edu (Richard Darsie)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,alt.guitar.tab
Subject: Re: still looking for the authors of these songs
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:56:35 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.folk
Distribution: na
Organization: University of California, Davis

In article <1992Sep3.002328.14469@parc.xerox.com>, putz@parc.xerox.com (Steve Putz) writes:
> 
> [This is a second attempt to post this to rec.music.folk (my first
> attempt apparently did not make it out), and I'm also expanding it to
> alt.guitar.tab as well]

> A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall
> 	(Where have you been my blue-eyed son?) [Pete Seeger; Bob Dylan?]

Yes, this is Dylan.

> Jamaica Farewell
> 	(Down the way where the night's are gay...)

Written by Irving Burgie, recorded by Harry Belafonte.

> Once I Had a Sweetheart
> 	(...and now I have none...)

This is traditional. Cecil Sharp collected the best-known version of it,
which has been recorded by Pentangle.

> Spanish Pipe Dream
> 	(She was a level headed dancer on the road to alcohol...) [Steve Seskin]

I believe this one is by John Prine.

> Will the Circle be Unbroken
> 	(I was standing by my window...)

This is a traditional negro spiritual (I think).

Richard
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,alt.guitar.tab
From: jfritz@ptolemy0.rdrc.rpi.edu (Joe Fritz)
Subject: Re: still looking for the authors of these songs
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 01:53:14 GMT

Just for the record, There were a few lines missing.  Here they are as
i remember them.

In article <1992Sep11.123536.25219@bnr.ca> rwanner@bnr.ca writes:

>The Battle of New Orleans - Johnny Horton
>
>In 1814 we took a little trip, 
>along with Colonel Jackson down the mighty Mississip
>we took a little bacon and we took a little beans
>and we met the bloody British at the town of New Orleans.
>
>Chorus:
>We fired our guns and the British kept a coming
>There wasn't quite as many as there was a while ago
>We fired once more and they began to running 
>on down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.
>
>Ol' Hickory said we could take them by surpise
>if we didn't fire our muskets 'til we looked them in the eyes
We held our fire 'till we saw their faces well.
Then we opened up our squirrel guns and really gave them WELLLLLLLLLL!
>
NO Chorus
>
>We fired our cannon 'till the barrel melted down
>then we took an alligator and we shot another round.
>We filled his mouth with cannonballs and powdered his behind
>when we touched the powder off 'gator lost his mind. Well...
>Chorus
>
>etc.
>
>
>Richard Wanner    rwanner@BNR.CA     
>(613)763-4159     BNR is not responsible for any opinions I have.
>   "To you I'm an atheist; to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition." - Woody Allen


-- 
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And may all your dreams come true   | jfritz@rdrc.rpi.edu   <><
May you always do for others        -----------------------------
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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: allender@ils.nwu.edu (Laura Allender)
Subject: Wanted Lyrics for Hacker Song
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:36:15 GMT


I'm trying to find the lyrics for the Hacker Song as sung
to "I'm a Lumberjack and I'm okay...".  I only remember one
verse

I'm a hacker and I'm ok
I work all night and I sleep all day
I wrote some hacks in APL
Upon a single line
Their mutually recursive and run in n-squared time.

Please send them to allender@ils.nwu.edu
Thanks in advance

Laura
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,rec.music.country.western,alt.guitar
From: rcmcc@hera.uucp (22347-mcconnell)
Subject: Hom[232mespun Tapes: "How to Play ..."
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 20:43:39 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.folk
Keywords: video, audio, guitar, fiddle, etc.

I have never seen Homespun Tapes mentioned
here on netnews, so I'm guessing that many
are not aware of them.

The Homespun Tapes of Woodstock NY catalog has about
30 pages of instructional videos and audio tapes on
guitar, banjo, mandolin, fiddle, drums, harp, autoharp,...
by instructors like Chet Atkins, Doc & Merle Watson,
Tony Rice, Mark O'Connor and many others that
everyone knows.  The tapes cover all levels from
rank beginner to pro.  The Elderly Instruments book
and video catalog lists just a few of these.

There are several on guitar by Happy Traum
who is also president of Homespun,
and a pretty good folk performer on his own.
His "Buckets of Songs" album on Shanachie is
one of my favorites.

The Homespun phone number is 1-800-33TAPES.

Just for the curiosity, tell them you heard
about it here on netnews.  (I don't get a cut.)

Ron McConnell

Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,alt.guitar.tab
From: dhw@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us (David West)
Subject: Re: still looking for the authors of these songs
Organization: Plex-1, Michigan's Public Access Usenet Gateway  (Ann Arbor).
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 04:57:39 GMT

In article <TERRYK.92Sep9122218@fenix.encore.com> terryk@encore.com (Terence M. Kelleher) writes:
>   Battle of New Orleans
>	   (In 1814 we took a little trip...)
>Music is a bluegrass instrumental called, "The 6th of January", or
>maybe it was the fifth.

The tune is "The Eighth of January".

-David
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,rec.music.bluenote
From: MJFORRES@SUVM.SYR.EDU (maurice)
Subject: Re: Last Train to Clarksville (was Re: train song tape finished)
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 10:54:30 EDT

In article <1992Sep9.163602.15331@athena.cs.uga.edu>
rholmes@athena.cs.uga.edu (Robb Holmes) writes:
 
>Hmm.  Just when did that record come out, anyway?  Was Clark Clifford still
>Secretary of Defense?  Is that how they came up with the equation:
>Clarksville = induction center?
 
Clark Clifford was Secretary of Defense for about a year: from early
1968 until the Nixon administration came in.  Anybody know when the
song came out?
 
maurice
                                                 Maurice Forrester
                                                 mjforres@suvm.syr.edu
From: tzf@csl.biosci.arizona.edu (Theron Friedman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Irish vs. Greek bouzouki (was: Re: Help a novice folkie!)
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:42:51 GMT
Reply-To: tzf@csl.biosci.arizona.edu
Organization: U of Arizona, CS Dept, Tucson

Basically, Greek bouzouki is tamboura/guitar family, Irish Bouzouki/Cittern
is mandolin family. Very different instruments.

Greek Bouzouki (gourd body) has 4 pairs of strings, tuned like the top
strings of a guitar but one tone down: C-F-A-D; lower
two courses are in octaves, higher two are unisons. (Earlier in the
evolution by the way, like earlier in this century, the instrument only had
3 pairs, tuned D-A-D'.) 

The four courses on a Cittern are all doubled in unison, tuned a 4th apart.
I believe the tuning is just an octave below standard Mandolin: G-D-A-E.

Anyone know how the Cittern came into Irish music? It wasn't there before
1970 s'farz I know. I think the first person I saw playing one was the
banjo player for Boys of the Lough; I asked him about it and he said that
he'd had it custom made because he wanted something with the same fingering
as his (4 string) banjo but a bit quieter. Did it catch on from there, or
was there another infection vector?

Folklore corner: everyone now considers Bouzouki _the_ Greek instrument. 
Earlier in this century the cultured Greeks scorned it as a "Turkish"
instrument; it may have even been illegal for a while to play it in
Greece (memory is patchy here). 

	terry friedman
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: bsmart@bsmart.TTI.COM (Bob Smart)
Subject: Re: Tamburitza ( was Re: Mutant Viola?)
Reply-To: bsmart@bsmart.TTI.COM (Bob Smart)
Organization: Citicorp+TTI
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 03:32:26 GMT

That certainly sounds like it might be close to the mark...except that
the Frankenfiddle is set up to be bowed, and is fretless.  Are there
variants from that region that might fit the bill even closer?

---------

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facts of the case.

Some mailers apparently munge my address; you might have to use
bsmart@bsmart.tti.com -- or if that fails, fall back to
72027.3210@compuserve.com.  Ain't UNIX grand?
From: hooverb@h.cs.wvu.wvnet.edu (Bruce Hoover,Armstrong)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: funny math and physics songs
Date: 14 Sep 92 03:16:15 GMT
Originator: hooverb@a.cs.wvu.wvnet.edu

From article <10SEP199214502521@rover.uchicago.edu>, by frank@rover.uchicago.edu (Frank - Hardware Hacker - Borger):
> In article <1992Sep10.180558.7355@schaefer.math.wisc.edu>, pemantle@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Robin Pemantle) writes...
>> 
>>I'm trying to locate some funny songs about math and physics...
 
> 	It escapes me who did it, (I thought it was Pete Segar, but my mind
> 	is going lately,)maybe the net can help, but you must include the
> 	beautiful Woody Guthrie parody, "Talking Atom Blues." I love the line
 	
> 	"but the atom don't care ... all he wants to do is sit there and have
> 	his nucleus bombarded by neutrons."

Well, I'm not sure about what parodies what, but the song "Talking
Atomicc Blues", from which the above quote is taken, was written in 1946
by Vern Partlow. I'm not sure who all has recorded it, but my favourite
is the  versionby Sam Hinton (first recorded in 1950).



What about the last line: "Peace in the world, or the world in pieces?"


Bruce  Hoover


 	
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: wgreene@sdf.lonestar.org (Wayne Greene)
Subject: Re: looking for the authors of these songs
Organization: sdf Public Access UNIX, Dallas--unrestricted free shell access
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 14:26:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.024939.9081@rock.concert.net> barber@jazz.concert.net (Scott Barber) writes:
>In article <1992Aug29.231358.16022@parc.xerox.com> putz@parc.xerox.com (Steve Putz) writes:
>>I've recently discovered the guitar and lyrics archives on
>>ftp.nevada.edu and ftp.uwp.edu.  That motivated me to dig out my 150
>>song files and submit them to the archives.
>
>
>>Will the Circle be Unbroken	(I was standing by my window...)
>
>On my "Circle" album, I notice the song was written by one A.P. Carter.
>
>Does anybody know what the A.P. stands for?  This person also wrote
>"Little Darlin', Pal of Mine" (which is my Scruggs 5-String Banjo
>Book).
>
>Scott
>
A.P. Cat:d
i
A.P. Carter was one of the Carter Family. Whether or not he wrtoe many
or any songs is subject to debate.  Many feel that he took a lot of
traditional songs and put his name on them.

    Wayne G.

Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: ellene@microsoft.com (Ellen Mitsue Eades)
Subject: Re: AMERICAN folk singers
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:01:43 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

In article <1992Sep13.210651.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu> rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes:
>In article <1992Sep13.143325.1@pearl.tufts.edu>, mweinste@pearl.tufts.edu writes:
>> What ever happened to the great American folksingers like Woody Guthrie,
>> Pete Seeger, Tom Paxton, Arlo Guthrie, Lee Hays, etc?

>Ol' Woody, he died a while back...

So did Lee Hays.

Tom Paxton is coming to Seattle next weekend, though (Sep. 19,
Museum of History and Industry, with Greg Scott and Smokey Joe
Weihe opening)! I'll be there...

Ellen
-- 
Ellen Eades					Microsoft Corporation
"Just call me F.G.M.  I hate excess verbiage."  _Twice Upon a Time_
From: bearce@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Phil Bearce)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:04:08 GMT
Subject: Nanci Griffith question.
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk

A few months ago a friend from out of town happened by and left me a copy of
a Nanci Griffith tape called "One Fair Summer Evening".  The more I listen
to this, the more I like it and will get more from her.  Here's a question
though. Is she using open tunings on this recording?  It kinda sounds like it,
but I can't be sure.  Her writing is wonderful and I wonder if she plays all
those songs herself or does she have some help from her band.  

Thanks...

Phil Bearce

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