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> I realize any answer will be a very rough estimate.

I think we can do better than that.

> 170 lbs
> (fresh) water weight belt 30 lbs plus 4 lbs on my ankles
> which makes me barely negatively buoyant when I empty my suit/BC.

Assume that your tank and such weigh 30 pounds.  Your total weight is
170+30+34=234 lbs.  You displace exactly that much fresh water at neutral
buoyancy.  Salt water is denser in the ratio 64/62.4, so you would displace
234*64/62.4 lbs of salt water when just submerged assuming your volume stays
the same.  That's 240 lbs or exactly 6 lbs more than for fresh water.

This assumes that you don't change tanks, suit, etc., when going to salt
water.

Bob Jewett
From: gd@gehenna.sw.stratus.com (Greg Dawe)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: Oxygen Clock (Was: Re: Misc. questions.)
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:14:10 GMT
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In article <1g8lluINNsb3@fido.asd.sgi.com> leej@sgi.com (Lee Jones) writes:
>
>What are the units of a UPTD?  ATA*minutes or what?

How about "O2 minute-ATAs"?

       OTUs = minutes * ( ( PO2 - 0.5 ) / 0.5 ) ** 0.83
-- 
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Voice : (508)-490-6666           |             nor they for me...
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From: zawada@athens.eid.anl.gov (Dave Zawada)
Subject: Re: Marine Biology and related studies
Followup-To: rec.scuba
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:46:52 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.202056.25908@wheaton.wheaton.edu>,
alliso@david.wheaton.edu (Bryan Allison) wrote:
> 
> 	I am graduating from college in May with a Computer Science degree
> and am thinking about going to grad school.  I am trying to decide
> what I want to study if I go to grad school.  I have been thinking about
> marine biology or something that has to do with that, but really have
> no idea about what is involved in these courses or what schools even have them
> in their curriculum.  If anybody knows anything about this I would be
> grateful if you could tell me what you know.
> 
> 	Thanks a ton.
> 	Bryan Allison

When I was looking into marine science graduate programs back in 1987,
I got information from the following schools:

Florida Atlantic University
Florida Institute of Technology
Scripps Institution of Oceanography
Texas A&M
University of Delaware
University of Florida
University of Hawaii -- Monoa
University of Miami -- Rosenstiel Institute
University of New Hampshire
University of Rhode Island

Since my B.S. was in Chemical Engineering, I was interested in marine
chemistry
and engineering applications in the marine environment.  I chose the
Ocean Engineering program at the Florida Institute of Technology where I
studied the design and construction of artificial reefs from stabilized
fly ash, which utility companies generate by the ton.

I would suggest you skim through an introductory text on oceanography to
find out what specific areas interest you.  Then, look for schools that
offer
programs in that area.  Also, pay special attention to faculty members.  I
met with several profs at my top two school choices to find one I could
relate
to.  Your advisor will be your slave-driver for the next 2+ years, so
choose him/her CAREFULLY.

Hope this helps,

Dave
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:54:43 -0500 
From: "Peter A. Simon" <ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Misc. questions.
	<1992Dec14.195049.13753@meiko.com>

Gordon Henderson writes:
 
>Gordon Henderson
> 
>Ps. Because water doesn't flush through, semi-drys tend to smell a bit after
>    peeing in them. (It's even worse in fresh water!)

Nothing's as bad as peeing in a dry suit!

Peter Simon
NAUI I #1434
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From: 0031b@pnet16.cts.com (Rmcs Falcone)
Subject: SHARKS IN HAWAII
Organization: People-Net [pnet16], NCTAMS EASTPAC
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:36:03 GMT

 
   Well, I have to admit, this past weekend was the first time I've
seen a TIGER shark in Hawaii.  He (or she) was about 8 ft long
(given the 25 percent enlargement from the water). He (or she) made
three circles around my class but never approached closer then 20
yards. Being this my first encounter with sighting a shark (in more
then 180 dives in Hawaii) I felt comfortable knowing he was out
hunting (sharks normally will circle their pray before approaching
them). Sure, I'd be laying if I said I was completely un-afraid.
But there was something that grabbed by fascination
   As the story goes....it's true the Hawaiian bureaucrats has
stopped the "man hunt" for sharks (at least until the next
incidence). 
   I am one of those that firmly believe that we enter the sharks
environment and we understand that from the start when we either
dive, snorkel, or surf (including body surfing). It's their home.
You kind of "ENTER UNDER YOUR OWN RISK".
   As far as I am conserned, that's an allowable risk I endure each
and ever time I enter the ocean, without exception. I enjoy SCUBA
and I REALLY enjoy Hawaii waters. You'd be hard pressed to convince
me otherwise. Enough said.
 
 
                                               George
 
Diving Hawaii waters        |  " TO THE VICTOR, GOES THE SPOILS"
each weekend I'm free !!!   |      (I'm spoiled rotten !!)

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From: graff@atux01.att.com (Christopher Graff)
Subject: Re: Nitrox Diving
Organization: AT&T Corporate Education and Training
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:02:49 GMT




In article <1gq3v7INN2sa@transfer.stratus.com>, gd@gehenna.sw.stratus.com (Greg Dawe) writes:
> In article <kf=rsbO00iV0M2xSU8@andrew.cmu.edu> "Peter A. Simon" <ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

> >>oxygen compatible as well as oxygen cleaned.  There are some regulator
> >>first stages, and SCUBA cylinders that can't be used with high O2 fractions.
> >>In the case of the regulators I've run into, the problem is usually the 
> >>unavailability of compatible replacement parts (diagphrams, and in some cases
> >>an O-ring or two).
> >
> so you don't need a cleaned/compatible regulator.  In theory, you shouldn't
> need a cleaned tank/valve either, as long as the shop isn't mixing the NITROX
> NITROX or not.  But, I've digressed here.
> 

	Im thinking about taking the Nitrox course next summer and I plan
	to purchase a Poseidon reg setup early next year. 
	What bit I know is that you can have 
	Viton rings installed in the 1st stage and maybe 2nd stage of the reg.
	and I think they install them on the tanks also. There purpose is
	that they dont corrode fron the higher O2 concentrations so you
	wont have to have them replaced. I was told they run about $50-60
	. So Im going to have them installed when I buy the reg setup. 
	Next time I get over to the shop Ill see if I can get more details.


	Chris





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From: dbrown@newssun.med.miami.edu (Daniel Brown)
Subject: Re: Nitrox Diving
Organization: University of Miami, School Of Medicine
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:04:05 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.160128.4711@cattnts.canada.ncr.com> craig@cattnts.canada.ncr.com (Craig Campbell) writes:

>>But, the new risk is O2 toxicity occurring at shallower depths.  I think
					    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>this is much greater risk, and that's my primary reservation for 
>>doing nitrox dives.
>
>The risk is NOT new.  The cruxial question is, "How deep do you dive"?
>(Actually, the real question is "How deep and how long", but that's too 
>complex and unnecessary for this discussion.)

The risk of O2 toxicity isn't new, that's true, but the risk of it occurring
at shallower depths is new.  I can't remember an air dive I've done where
depth was restricted by O2 toxicity.


Dan
NAUI #13366
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From: andrewt@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Taylor)
Subject: Re: sharks in general
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:08:07 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In article <1992Dec17.141415.3201@resonex.com> dan@resonex.com (Dan Kell) writes:
>>Probably not, marine fish seem much less vulnerable to the effects of man
>>than other groups.  The Tiger Shark's size and age of sexual maturity
>>do make it more vulnerable but its huge range should make it secure.
>                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>                                Just like the passenger pigeon?

The Passenger Pigeon's numbers were huge but its breeding range (Eastern US
deciduous forest) was much smaller than the Tiger Shark's. You are right huge
range isn't a guarantee of security.  Several turtles with similar ranges
to the Tiger Shark are threatened because they have the same vulnerability as
the passenger pigeon - they breed colonially.

Andrew Taylor
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From: tleylan@pegasus.com (Tom Leylan)
Subject: Shark Hunt Wrap-Up
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Distribution: rec.scuba
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 22:06:13 GMT

Well after the flurry of nonsense has subsided the facts are finally in
on the Hawaii Shark Hunt.

Reported in today's newspaper the shark hunt has been completed as the
goal has been met, and it was termed "a success".

  Total shark kills by the "authorities" 9
  Total by other participants 13

  For a grand total of 22 sharks.

"Bloodthirsty madmen"... uh, yeah, sure...

tom
From: story@sgi.com (David (Duis) Story)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: missing deco stop ... re-entering
Date: 18 Dec 92 03:14:32 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <Qf=rlva00iV0A2xQ56@andrew.cmu.edu> ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Peter A. Simon) writes:
>story@sgi.com (David (Duis) Story) writes:
>
>>Also, on- and off-gassing and the effects of O2 toxicity have
>>experimentally proven to be very different in wet and dry conditions.
>
>Now *that's* interesting!

Yeah, picked it up in my (brand) new copy of _Oxygen and the Diver_ by
Dr Kenneth Donald. 

>>>>2) breathe pure oxygen
>>>
>>>IF AVAILABLE.
>> 
>>It should be if you are planning decompression.  (Emphasis on
>>"planning": Remember the 6 P's.)
>
>What are the 6 P's?

"Proper Planning Prevents Piss-Poor Performance."

Safe, well-planned diving,

David Story                        NAUI AI Z9588, PADI DM 43922, EMT
story@bent.wpd.sgi.com		   Oxygen is a drug in California.
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:59:07 -0500 
From: "Peter A. Simon" <ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: missing deco stop ... re-entering
	<tjjbbgc@twilight.wpd.sgi.com>

story@sgi.com (David (Duis) Story) writes:

>Also, on- and off-gassing and the effects of O2 toxicity have
>experimentally proven to be very different in wet and dry conditions.

Now *that's* interesting!

>>>2) breathe pure oxygen
>>
>>IF AVAILABLE.
> 
>It should be if you are planning decompression.  (Emphasis on
>"planning": Remember the 6 P's.)

What are the 6 P's?

Peter Simon 
NAUI I #1434


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From: eckhouse@athena.mit.edu (D. Noah Eckhouse)
Subject: Cayman Brac Recommendations
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 18:01:39 GMT

Hello Net Diving World:

My fiancee and I are trying to get our honeymoon plans finalized, and
are trying to decide which place on the Brac is better.  I've checked
the archives, and am looking for additional comments, namely:

Is the Brac Reef Beach Club more 'Sunset House-ish' than it is
advertised?

We've heard less about the DIVI Tiara.  Any good/bad feelings about it?


What would _you_ choose if it was your honeymoon?  We're avid divers,
but we're going to need to relax as well as dive on this trip, and
going to an overly dive oriented place is not what we're looking for
(i.e. maybe 2 dives a day instead of 4 -- thus liveaboards aren't an
attractive option...)

We appreciate the help!



=====================================
Noah Eckhouse
Research Specialist
MIT Department of Ocean Engineering
77 Massachusetts Avenue, Room 1-225
Cambridge, MA  02139
617/253-5900  eckhouse@athena.mit.edu

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From: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com (Dillon Pyron)
Subject: Re: Nitrox Diving
Reply-To: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com
Organization: TI/DSEG VAX Support
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:46:22 GMT


In article <14899@cis.rand.org>, schutz@rand.ORG (Karl Schutz) writes:
>A short while ago a friend of mine completed a nitrox class.  His first nitrox
>dive was a beach dive in Laguna Beach, CA.  As he and the instructor sashayed
>toward the water's edge, one of two bistanders noticed the green and yellow tanks
>with NITROX printed on them and questioned the other as to its meaning.  The
>other responded that it's that gas race car drivers use (obviously referring to
>nitro-class drag racing - Ed. :-) ).
>
Nope.  Some classes allow the use of nitrous oxide as a "fuel supplement".  The
expanding gas cools the fuel stream, and the oxygen unbonds at high
temperatures.  Talk about getting narced :-)))))

Nitromethane (nitro) is a totally different story.
>-- 
>Karl F. Schutz
>PADI DM-50321
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From: ask@access.digex.com (Andrew S. Katz)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Diving in Palm Beach Area
Date: 20 Dec 1992 14:36:59 GMT
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Distribution: usa
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I would appreciate anyone's experiences with diving in the Palm Beach
Florida area.  Someone has recommended "Forc E" dive shop to me for trips.
Thanks in advance.

Andrew S. Katz
ask@digex.com
From: dan@resonex.com (Dan Kell)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: sharks in general
Date: 17 Dec 92 14:14:15 GMT
Organization: Resonex Inc., Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Dec17.160952.14352@watson.ibm.com> andrewt@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Taylor) writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.135208.10666@gssec.bt.co.uk> awright@gssec.bt.co.uk (Alan Wright) writes:

[stuff deleted]

>>In summary, IMHO it would be relatively simple for man to accidently
>>make the tiger extinct in a short period of time.
>
>Probably not, marine fish seem much less vulnerable to the effects of man
>than other groups.  The Tiger Shark's size and age of sexual maturity
>do make it more vulnerable but its huge range should make it secure.
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                                Just like the passenger pigeon?



-- 
Dan Kell                  
email to dan@resonex.com
"Experience is somethig you don't get until just after you meeded it most."
                       Murphys laws of computing
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From: s32905u@saha.hut.fi (Jouni Ilari Polkko)
Subject: Re: Tank sizes/capacities
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 13:27:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.154302.26112@sequent.com> tho@sequent.com (Torsten Homeyer) writes:
>	Yes, same as in Germany. These tanks are also build by Draeger
>	and are quiet common used by police, firebrigade and coast guard
>	divers. Mostly in sizes smaller than 10 liters.

Dr{ger doesn't make tanks. They use IWKA tanks and just install their
valves, back-packs and harnesses onto the tanks and then sell them forward
as Dr{gers.

>	Torsten.

Jouni Polkko
jpolkko@niksula.cs.hut.fi
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From: gordon@meiko.com (Gordon Henderson)
Subject: Re: Misc. questions.
Organization: Meiko Scientific Corp.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:50:49 GMT

In article <cf9ZRPW00iUy84aFJ=@andrew.cmu.edu> "Peter A. Simon" <ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>In a post re: BSAC vs. SAA training, the term "semi-dry suit" was used.
>
>Could some knowledgable person tell me what these things are?  (My site
>doesn't keep many old posts on hand).
> [[..bits deleted ...]]

I'm a BS-AC diver, and I wear a 7.5mm neoprene semi-dry wetsuit for all
the SCUBA diving I do.

It's very much like a normal wetsuit, except it has the same type of
seals on the ankles and cuffs that I've seen on neoprene drysuits. Mine
is a 2 part suit, the bottoms are like ski-ing salopettes(sp?) - I step
into them, and they come up to my chest with wide straps over my
shoulders, the top is like a jacket with a crotch-strap I have to step
into and a slightly offset zip, and a built-in hood.

This results in 7.5mm neoprene all over, except for the main body area
where I have  a double layer.

I still get wet, through the zip, and down my neck (perhaps having a beard
doesn't help!) but the good seals don't allow any water to flush through
so the warm water I have in the suit stays there.

They are very popular in the UK where the sea temp. is between 10 and
15 centigrade for most of the year. I don't think anyone here would
consider buying a normal wet-suit these days (except perhaps for
above-water sports).

Drysuits are becoming more popular, and I'll probably buy one next year
when I can afford one!

I dive a lot in fresh water - the place I was at on Sunday was at 5c ... I
was warm enough in the water, except for my feet and hands (3mm boots &
gloves) I find that it's the hanging about between dives that cools me
down, or coming back on a boat without some sort of wind-proof jacket
over the suit.

Gordon Henderson

Ps. Because water doesn't flush through, semi-drys tend to smell a bit after
    peeing in them. (It's even worse in fresh water!)
From: space@ncc1701.stgt.sub.org (Lars Soltau)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: Killing for Fun
Date: 12 Dec 92 18:06:04 GMT
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In-reply-to: joseph@smos.com's message of Sat, 5 Dec 1992 01:56:04 GMT

>>>>> On Sat, 5 Dec 1992 01:56:04 GMT, joseph@smos.com (Joseph Crunk) said:

> I've been reading some of the postings about the shark hunt in Hawaii.
> A couple of the posts were a little hard on man/woman-kind as brutal,
> bloodthirsty beasts..etc. There was also a suggestion that perhaps
> sharks only kill for food. I dunno, but there are other animals that
> kill for fun.

> In Monterey it's not unusual to see the sealions playing frisbee with
> the Mola-mola. (the mola-mola is a.k.a. a sunfish)

And the sealions in turn are used in much the same way by orcas
(although orcas *do* feed on sealions).
--
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		smart: space@ncc1701.stgt.sub.org

Will kein Gott auf Erden sein, sind wir selber Gtter.
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From: mjs@hubcap.clemson.edu (M. J. Saltzman)
Subject: Scientific American article on coral bleaching
Organization: Clemson University, Clemson SC
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 21:52:05 GMT

I haven't read it al the way through, but I just received my January 93
issue of Scientific American.  There is an article (not announced on
the cover) on the phenomenon of coral bleaching, by Barbara E. Brown
(the U.K.'s Center for Tropical Coastline Management) and John C. Ogden
(Florida Inst. of Oceanography).

The blurb in the table of contents reads:

	Extensive areas if the subtly colored coral reefs that gird tropical
	shores have been turning a dazzling white; some stretches of the
	affected coral have even died.  Bleaching may be a call of distress
	from these complex and highly productive ecosystems, usually emitted
	when they experience abnormally high seawater temperatures.  Do
	bleached reefs signal global warming?


-- 
		Matthew Saltzman
		Clemson University Math Sciences
		mjs@clemson.edu
From: craig@cattnts.canada.ncr.com (Craig Campbell)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: missing deco stop ... re-entering
Date: 16 Dec 92 13:14:54 GMT
Organization: AT&T / NCR Canada Ltd., Toronto, Canada

In article <Bz7zF1.AFw@optimla.aimla.com> walter@optimla.aimla.com (Walter Hunt) writes:
>
>	Reminds me of when I was sitting at a table with a guy (FOAF) who had
>just returned from a trip with a local diving-knowledgable doctor to a small
>tropical country. Seems they were fishing (lobstering maybe? the details slip
>away) deep on SCUBA with much the same game plan. They would drop to the bottom,
>stuff their game bags till they were out of air, and then shoot to the surface
>to get another tank. No decompression, no tables, no chamber within any
>reasonable distance. Villagers had a habit of pucturing their eardrums so they
>wouldn't even have to clear on the way down. Most of the former divers were
>bent, and many of the working ones felt symtoms on a frequent basis! 

>	The guys' reason for being there was to try to convince these people to
>try to take a few standard precautions. I mean simple stuff, like, if you feel
>pain in your limbs when ascending, stop at 20 feet or so for a couple minutes
>(oh, and leave a little air to do it with).  Things like, hang the goodie bag
>off a line off the boat, so when the inevitable sharks come around, you aren't
>fighting them for dinner.

>	In this case also, they were fighting a losing battle trying to convince
>the divers to suffer a little smaller catch in exchange for an extra measure of
>safety. Scary.

Ok, I'll ask... what does "FOAF" mean?

By the way, doesn't this sound a bit like a "Star Trek" plot.  Introducing
advanced technology to people not yet ready to cope with it?

>Walter Hunt					walter@optimla.optimage.com

Merry Christmas,

craig
-- 
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Systems Engineer	|	small butterfly crashing into the far side
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From: dbrown@newssun.med.miami.edu (Daniel Brown)
Subject: Re: Nitrox Diving
Organization: University of Miami, School Of Medicine
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:42:49 GMT

>There is nothing "partially" true about my statement: Nitrox is clearly
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I'd better rephrase that to  "My original statement was entirely true ..."

Sorry about that,

Dan
NAUI #13366
From: leej@sgi.com (Lee Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: Shark Attacks
Date: 17 Dec 92 01:54:22 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: diver.asd.sgi.com

In article <Af=rfWe00iV0A2xOI6@andrew.cmu.edu> ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Peter A. Simon) writes:
>
>1.  Shark attack was the greatest cause of death of seaman in WWII. 
>More died that way than by explosions, exposure, drowning and so forth. 
>True?

That seems hard to verify.  If a ship sinks, then some number of people
are floating around in the water, alive, partially alive, or dead.  Some
number will succumb to exposure/drowning, and others to shark attack.
But to figure out which succumbed to what seems like a very low accuracy
process.  If a guy was knocked unconcious and bleeding profusely by
the explosion, and the shark came and finished him off, who gets the "kill"?
And who was there to count who got killed by what?

>2.  Prior to WWII, shark attacks on swimmers was unheard of. Sharks were
>turned into "man-eaters" because of the easy pickings due to the carnage
>of war.  True?

It seems unlikely that 300 million years of dietary evolution would be 
changed by a few years of free sailor-buffets in a couple of (relatively
isolated) locations around the world.  On the other hand, there is another
(urban legend?) claim that echos of gunfire from WWII are still rattling 
around in the deepest parts of the ocean occasionally confusing whales 
communicating over the miles.  I suppose we really don't have a good 
appreciation of how much a mess we made of things during that period.  Maybe
it is true...

Regards, Lee
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