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From: ware@xylophone.cis.ohio-state.edu (Peter Ware)
Subject: Re: X Toolkit Callback Order
Originator: ware@xylophone.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:34:35 GMT

In article <9204081759.AA00754@excess.lcs.mit.edu>
converse@expo.lcs.mit.EDU (Donna Converse) writes:

   >   Can one depend on callbacks (more than one registered for a single
   > callback resource) being invoked in order they were added to the list.

   The Intrinsics library can make no guarantees about the order of execution
   of callback procedures from a callback list.  The interesting fact is that
   both widget writers and application writers have access to the callback
   lists, and either one or both can rearrange the contents and/or order of
   the procedures in the list.

Aren't the callback lists allowed to be compiled into an internal
form?  So there really is no way to rearrange the list -- although it
still remains that the order of execution is not guaranteed.

For a further reference in Asente & Swick pg 201:

	"The Intrinsics do not define the order in which they invoke
	 callback procedures."

while this isn't from the Specification, it's good enough for me.

--pete
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From: rob@planet.bt.co.uk (Richard O'Brien)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Help! X11R5pl10, Sun GX - multiple cursors
Date: 16 Apr 92 14:51:11 GMT
Reply-To: rob@planet.bt.co.uk
Organization: BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, UK.


Help,

	Environment:
		X11R5pl10 (fix-07 SunGX.uu applied)
		SunOS4.1.1 Rev.B
		Compiler /bin/cc
		SPARCstation 1+ GX

	Problem:

		Xserver displays 2 pointers/cursors. This fault does not
		appear on other monitor types. Tested on:

			cgsix (no accelerator)
			bwtwo

	Any help greatly appreciated.

Thanks in Advance.
Richard O'Brien
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: perry@sun1.coe (Matt Perry (8/12/91) F)
Subject: RE: Xvision and Win 3.1, NOT
Organization: Texas Tech
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 13:30:46 GMT

Well after a week of Xvision 4.0 and Win 3.1 not working together, I'm happy to
report that they are now working together.  The problem you ask?  It turns out
that you cannot load the tcpip drivers high anymore.  Once I fixed that "problem"
everything worked fine.  I want to thank Mark Bradford for his e-mail solution to
this problem.  Yes, another user found the problem not Xvision.  I was quite
unhappy with the support I received from Xvision.  I called the US technical support
many time before getting a live person and then only an operator who said it might
be a couple of days before they responded to me.  OK but when I got to support, I
certainly got the feeling that they were not to blame because "Xvision 4.0 ran
perfect on beta releases of Win 3.1".  You cannot imagine how many times I heard
that phrase this past week.  Anyway, after waiting a couple of days and sending
several of my files and debug report thru e-mail I didn't think I was getting
the support I thought appropriate so I posted a news message.  Sure enough, I get
a call from Great Britain about how they were going to look into it, etc, etc.

Well, they kept asking for more of my files because, once again, "it ran fine
on a great number of machines in the beta release and I was the ONLY person
to report that I had a problem".  I definitely got hte feeling that they thought
so highly of their software that they could no way be wrong.  Well the story ends
here because some kind user figured out this ONLY problem and gave me the solution.

As I said in my previous message, we were going to buy Xvision for all the 386 and 
486 machines in our department but I have told them to hold the purchase because of
my dealing with the company.  Desqview/X is only the way, its cheaper, and from what
some of my friends have said it is much faster.  Another story where poor support
may cost them some big bucks.


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From: davidd@noaapmel.gov (David Doll)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: more on remote display problem
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:02:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: wimpie.DAVIDD.92Apr7160255
Organization: NOAA, Sand Point Way, Seattle, WA


I forgot to mention in the earlyer posting that everything clears up
if I logout and then log back in, i.e. I don't get that error...

David

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: mlake@irscscm.UUCP (Marshall Lake)
Subject: X11R5 on a Sequent Balance
Reply-To: mlake@irscscm.UUCP (Marshall Lake)
Organization: Internal Revenue Service, Washington, DC
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 14:16:10 GMT

Has anyone installed X11R5 on a Sequent Balance?  If so, please
contact me.  I'm having trouble.

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From: emercade@dcc.uchile.cl (Eduardo Mercader Orta)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: UNSubscribe comp.windows.x
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:29:52 GMT
Organization: The Internet


Please unsubscribe me for this group.

Eduardo Mercader

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From: jmsteele@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (jeff.m.steele)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: MS-DOS X Server with SLIP support???
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:14:16 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr6.133746.1@hmcvax.claremont.edu> jstimson@hmcvax.claremont.edu writes:
>I am looking for an X server for MS-DOS (386 with ATI VGAWonder) that supports
>Internet Protocol Serial Links (SLIP).  I have access to a SLIP link, but not
>Ethernet.  I really don't want a program that runs under MS-Windows - it's too
>much of a power-suck to be used for anything besides word processing.  I'm also
>curious about prices for the various packages that support SLIP.
>							- John

You will need the following:
	Desqview/X from Quarterdeck 
	Desqview/X Network Manager
	FTP PC/TCP for DOS (FTP software, INC.)
	High Speed modem

I'm trying the same thing.  I'm still waiting for the Network 
Manager from Quarterdeck.  You can call Quarterdeck at (213)392-9851.
I bought the FTP software from Transparent Technology (310)568-3376.
Make sure you tell them you are using SLIP.

Jeff Steele

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: klee@wsl.dec.com (Ken Lee)
Subject: Re: XCreatePixmap
Keywords: failure
Reply-To: klee@wsl.dec.com
Organization: DEC Western Software Laboratory
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 22:26:11 GMT

|> Is there a defined return value for XCreatePixmap if it can not create the
|> requested pixmap?  If not, how can I portably detect when XCreatePixmap fails?

Xlib is (usually) asynchronous, so most Xlib functions do not immediately
return special error values.  Instead, you will asynchronously receive an
error, such as an Alloc error, if the pixmap cannot be created.  The Xlib
manual lists possible errors and their meanings.

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Internet: klee@wsl.dec.com
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From: srp@godiva.ssw.COM (Selene R. Platt)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Communication.
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:43:59 GMT
Organization: The Internet


> Here's my problem:  I have an X-Windows application process running and
> a non-X communications process running.  When a message is received by my
> comm process, I want to interrupt the X-Windows application and update
> a status window indicating that a message has arrived.  What is a good
> way to do this?  Do I have to make my comm process an X-Windows process
> in order to to successfully communicate?  I'm on a VAXstation 3100 using
> VMS and Motif 1.1.

We had to implement a similar sort of thing, and found that we had to use a
polling approach rather than an interrupt-driven one.  I'll preface this by
saying that I know nothing about any utilities available on the VAX.  Our
application runs on DG AViiON's and uses Xipc for interprocess communication.

In the X/Motif application, a timeout is registered for 'n' seconds, after 
which the application's Xipc queue is checked for any new messages.  These
messages can come from any other process - X/Motif or not.  If there are more
messages on the queue, the next X timeout registered is 0 seconds; if there
are no more messages, the timeout is 'n' seconds.  With this implementation,
all processes use a common IPC mechanism but the purely comm processes don't
have to get involved with X/Motif.  If your comm mechanism can support this
scenario, it might be the way to go.

Hope this helps!

- Selene Platt


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From: dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Adding CC options to Imakefile
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:23:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: osf.1992Apr13.152300.24030
Organization: Open Software Foundation

In article <920409085436.23600121@TGV.COM>, mahan@tgv.COM (Patrick L. Mahan) writes:
|> Does anyone have a clue as how to add CC options to an Imakefile?  We are
|> having problems building X11R5 under SunOS 4.1.1 using CC.  It fails here 
|> and there with "compiler(iropt) error: write_irfile: No space left on device"
|> and seeing from root the "/" was full.  We would like to use the CC option
|> -tmp to get around this.  How do I add it to the Imakefile to ensure that
|> this gets done?

From the "here and there", it sounds like the best place would be in your
sun.cf or site.def file.  Redefine DefaultCCOptions to "-tmp" or
"-pipe -tmp", and make Makefiles.  In an individual Imakefile, put
"CCOPTIONS=-tmp" near the top.

For extra flavor, do this inside a "#if !HasLargeTmp" :-)
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From: wiltzius@anduin.ocf.llnl.gov (Dave Wiltzius)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Expose event propagation?
Date: 11 Apr 92 15:29:20 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Livermore Nat'l Lab.

I would like to progagate the Expose event from child windows to
the parent.  I got this to work fine for the ButtonPress event
but it refuses to work for the Expose event (based on the documentation
in Vol.2, Ch. 8 of O'Reilly).  However, the documentation makes
a statement that may be construed to indicate that only device events
can be propagated (of which Expose is not).  Can or should I expect
the Expose event to be progagated from a child window to the parent?

The problem I'm trying to solve is, very briefly and hence sketchy:
On an SGI running 4.0.1 I would like my Motif GUI to have an X level
interface to my graphics (C++) objects.  The GUI is trying to act on
all events via Callbacks.  However, since my graphics objects only
have X windows, they are dealing with events and cannot register
a Callback routine (doing so requires a widget) for the event.  The
plan was to propagate all (interesting) events from the child
windows created by the graphics objects to the GUI.  The Expose
event is one such interesting event.

Any comments or help would be much appreciated.  Please respond
to my e-mail address below.

Thanks.
  Dave Wiltzius
  Lawrence Livermore Nat'l Lab
  wiltzius@llnl.gov
  (510) 422-1551
Xref: sparky comp.windows.x:9951 comp.windows.x.motif:3186
From: alt@orca.wv.tek.com (Al Tabayoyon)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: colors
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:09:27 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton OR

Marice Smith replies:
>	If the "terminal"s are from different vendors then you are into the
>	"device independant color" problem which has no easy fix.  X11R5 has
>	an excellent start with it's device independant color enhancements 
>	but, good as it is, it can't work if the display hardware is not set
>	up to match the characterization data.

If you would like to generate the characterization data for your particular screen, there are some pieces of software available on export found in
	/pubs/R5untarred/contrib/client/xcrtca

    xcrtca - X CRT Color Analyzer, drives a Minolta CA-100 Colorimeter
    xsccd  - converts output from xcrtca into the format (e.g., .dcc file)
		that is accepted by xcmsdb.

Also, under the directory xcrtca/monitors, there is a collection of .dcc
files generated by the X Consortium staff of the color monitors available
in their lab.

Regards,
Al Tabayoyon
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: jmoore@ssd.kodak.com (James H. Moore 726-0322)
Subject: Is there a "watcher" (Console inactivity based xlock) for X11?
Originator: jmoore@wotan
Keywords: inactivity xlock watcher
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 19:54:49 GMT

I was asked if there was a program which would detect inactivity at a 
keyboard and automatically lock the console.  Sort of a combination
of screensaver and xlock.  I knew that there was a program for
Sunview called "watcher" which had a little guy run around and
say cute things while locking the screen.

I realize that there are some good resource usage questions, and security
questions raised by the use of such a utility.  (I.E. should an
automatic lock be relied upon, and should anyone leave their desk
without a lock on their system.)  (I know of system managers who also
get tired of taking time to break automatic locks on workstations
for people who are on 2 weeks vacation and didn't bother to log out).

I have been asked to look for such an item, and so far have come up
empty.  Anyone know of such a utility?

Thanks in advance!!

					Jim Moore



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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif,comp.windows.open-look
From: dwb@IMD.Sterling.COM (David Boyd)
Subject: Re: Question for net.views column in UNIX Today!
Reply-To: dwb@IMD.Sterling.COM
Organization: Sterling Software
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 22:50:40 GMT
X-Md4-Signature: 8898d33a996401de6ea3a3f407b85d72

In article <STEINARB.92Apr5180433@hemlock.idt.unit.no>, steinarb@idt.unit.no (Steinar Bang) writes:
|> >>>>> On Fri, 3 Apr 1992 13:56:04 GMT, m05751@hypatia.data.st.statoil.no (Bjorn Larsen) said:
|> 
|> > Admittedly, we run OSF Motif on top of X11R4, but we purchase Motif
|> > in source form from OSF directly, and compile and distribute the
|> > software ourselves. Why don't we trust vendors? Blame it on
|> > experience.
|> 
	Amen!!

|> Now, if OSF could donate the Motif widgets and mwm to the X11
|> consortium, then we might see a stable, portable Motif which will run
|> with the MIT Xt out of the box (maybe it does this nowadays).
|> 
	With the exception of one patch to Xt Motif has compiled
out of the box with the generic MIT R4 X since 1.1.  
OSF did require that you have the MIT source patched up current.  The
one additional patch to Xt they provided was not even required as I
recall and OSF was discussing the patch with the consortium.

	I strongly agree on the second point,  that OSF should make
the source FREELY available.



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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: ware@xylophone.cis.ohio-state.edu (Peter Ware)
Subject: Re: Scrolling Window widgets with LARGE child
Originator: ware@xylophone.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:34:26 GMT

In article <rvgsuINNko3@agate.berkeley.edu> csvsj@garnet.berkeley.edu
(Steve Jacobson) writes:

   All of the scrolling widgets I am familiar with (HP SWindow, Athena
   Paned) manage a child widget that they move with the XtMoveWidget()
   call. The coordinate arguments are Position type variables, so
   problems occur when the height (or width) of the child is larger
   than 32K.

   Has anyone run into this problem before?

Yes, others have.   I haven't seen any general purpose widgets that
accomplish this because:
  1. the current solution of using a "viewport/clip window" is simple,
     fast, and covers 98% of everyones needs,
  2. you'd essentially have to implement such a scrolling window for
     each desired layout policy, or
  3. you'd have to make each composite smart enough to tell when its
     children are no longer visible and either not move them or unmap them.

I personally think 3 is the best choice but I don't have the energy to
do it.

The other type of problem is when a single widget wants to display
more data than can be contained in a single window -- i.e. zooming on
high resolution graphics or views of large data sets where it is
natural to represent each data item as a pixel.  Now the problem is
the actual scrolling is dependent on the data being displayed and it
is better handled by some application specific widget or callback.

I realize none of the above helps you but perhaps someone will with
more imagination then I can think of or already has a solution.

---pete
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: stgprao@xing.unocal.com (Richard Ottolini)
Subject: lights in MIT-PEX on a Sparc-2
Originator: stgprao@xing
Organization: Unocal Corporation, Anaheim, California
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 21:43:24 GMT

Anyone been able to turn-on rendering in MIT-PEX on a SPARC?
The rendering examples in O'Reilly's PHIGS book don't work.

How well does Sun-PEX work?  Since XGL seems to implement lighting models OK,
I assume Sun-PEX works.
From: srj@compsci.stirling.ac.UK (Steve_Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Please remove me
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:44:27 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Please remove me from the mailing list
Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: manoj@hal.com (Manoj Betawar)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Hyper text Help Programming
Date: 14 Apr 92 22:29:45 GMT
Organization: HaL Computer Systems

Hi
	Can somebody help me, to know more about Hyper text programming for Help menu, which can be use with  any software pakege. Is there any software available which will help me to write Help for my product. Where I should look for to get started on this topic. 

Thanks in advance, 
manoj@hal.com
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: naveen@ms.uky.edu (Naveen Goud)
Subject: X-Toolkit "PushButton" widget 
Keywords: X-Toolkit, PushButton
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 13:43:44 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Comp. Sciences
X-Bytes: 

Hello Guys,
This is the first time I am posting to this newsgroup. I am just trying to use
the X-Toolkit library. I am unable to find file "PushButton.h" for the 
pushbutton widget. I looked in the directory that contains the Athena
widgets. We are running the X11 version 4. I have talked to the system
administrator at our location and they couldn't find it either.
I also tried at the 'export.cis.mit.edu" node but the PushButton Widget
is not there. 

Now my question is this, Is anyone used this widget before? Is this widget
available in any public domain? Or can I use any of the other widgets like
Command to subsitute for the pushbutton. We have other widgets like
command, menubutton etc. 

I have just started to use the X-Toolkit, so pardon me if the above questions
seem simple, but I need an answer.

Thanks
- Naveen

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From: eric@pencom.com
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: xstdcmap
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:09:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: pencom.1992Apr15.170929.29309
Organization: Pencom Software

In article <1992Apr15.113913.5916@cicb.fr> dagorn@cicb.fr (Francois Dagorn -  
CICB Rennes 99.84.71.00) writes:
> Who can tell me what xstdcmap is useful for ?
> 
> i'm trying to "emulate" a 256 gray scale Xterminal with a 256 colors  
Xterminal. 
> 
> My first idea was to find a program loading a grayscale colormap in place of  
the
> standard colormap, "xstdcmap -gray" has no effect, colors are still  
available.
> Is there a contrib doing this ?

First, read about the XStandardColormap model in O'Reilly.
The purpose of xstdcmap will then be clear.
It creates "Standard Colormaps" not Standard "Colormaps".
Basically, a new colormap is created and an XStandardColormap
structure is created which describes how pixels should be
referenced in that colormap.   This does not imply that your
default colormap is changed in any way (but it could be).

BTW, xstdcmap violates the X standard with respect to gray colormaps.
A bug report has been submitted (but not officially replied to).  The
bug is actually imbedded in the Xmu code.
I would not recommend using any Gray Standard Colormaps until the
issue has been resolved.

Basically, whomever implemented the XA_GRAY Standard Colormap code
in Xmu was not familiar with how they worked, or decided that the
X standard did not work easily enough.   The code as it stands
loses precision very rapidly with small depth colormaps and
does not work at all with 2 bits.
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: uri@watson.ibm.com (Uri Blumenthal)
Subject: XFig can't use Postcsript font for PIC?
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 18:33:16 GMT
Reply-To: uri@watson.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: Why should you care?!
Keywords: xfig, pic, fig2dev, transfig, problem

Hello,
	My apologies if I'm using the wrong place to ask.

	I'm using XFig since quite a long ago.

	Now I upgraded it to XFig-2.1.3, and suddently 
	lost the ability to create pictires using fonts
	from Postscript palette. Well, XFig itself does
	not mind, of course, but now "fig2dev" complains
	saying
		PS fonts not supported, substituting ......

	when I try to convert "foo.fig" to "foo.pic",
	like
		fig2dev -L pic foo.fig > foo.pic

	Funny, it doesn't complain at all on my old *.fig
	files, produced by Xfig-1.4 (well, I don't recall
	the exact version, but the files which go OK through
	"fig2dev" say 
		#FIG 1.4X
	in their first line, while offenders say
		#FIG 2.1

	I use:

	XFig-2.1.3
	transfig-2.1.4 with PL1 applied.

	AIX/370, IBM 3090.

	Please help, if you can! I desperately need to be
	able to produce pictures, which are to be processed
	later by Ditroff, so PIC is a-must.

	Thanks a lot!

	Regards,
	Uri.		uri@watson.ibm.com
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