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From: rocker@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Box Set Mania
Date: 16 Dec 92 08:25:27 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

> Greatest Hits, but I feel like I have more than enough.  The Queen latest
> release is perhaps the biggest rip-off in the history of box-sets.  What
> it appears to be (Correct me if I'm wrong) is 3 discs, 2 of which are
> previously released *GREATEST HITS* CD's.  Fans who have those 2 Grt. Hits 
> CD's should be very wary of this set, it looked like the exact same sets to
> me.  The third disc being an interview with the band (I can get that on VH1's
> documentary which airs about twice a month).

	I agree totaly!  Is this the boxed set "Crown Jelws" that was talked
about here 3-4 months ago?  I hope NOT!!!  I was hoping to get somthing like
the Led Zep box so I wouldn't have to buy all of their CDs just so I can have
a bit more than their AT10 hits.

	So, does anyone know if there is another Queen Box set comming?

rock solid
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: pai@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Umeshraya T. Pai)
Subject: BMG Telephone number?
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:43:08 GMT

Hi.  Does anyone have a telephone number for BMG?  If so, could you
post it or send it to me?  Thanks
From: bellutta@ohsu.EDU (Paolo Bellutta)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: More Gentle Giant
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:58:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: ohsu.1992Dec18.175808.20798
Organization: Oregon Health Sciences University

In article <57731@dime.cs.umass.edu> barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel  
Barrett) writes:
> 	"Octopus" also has a green cover, and it is available on CD in the
> USA (Columbia CK 32022) and Germany (Line LICD 9.00736).  "The Missing
> Piece" has never been released on CD.

You are right.  Actually I've seen two versions of the (vinyl) Octopus.
One is the version which made it in CD, it is green with a red octopus.
The other one I've seen, has the octopus in a glass jar.  Both my vinyl
and CD copies of Octopus have the first version.

On a different subject.  Any ideas on how to protect the jewel box of
In a Glass House, from scratching?  If only they printed the *inside* of
the jewel box....

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Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: rodean@fc.hp.com (Bruce Rodean)
Subject: Re: Looking for a little Swiss help..
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:02:17 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Fort Collins, CO
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

Tino (constant@gn.ecn.purdue.edu) wrote:
> In article <bmaple.0dmi@burner.com> bmaple@burner.com (Bob Maple) writes:
> >If anyone in Switzerland reads this group, if you could look for Andreas
> >Vollenweider's 'Eine Art Suite' disc next time you happen to be in a music
> >store and give me a price on it (email me) I would greatly appreciate it!
> >
> >I don't know if the disc is out of print, but I know it isn't available in
> >the US, so I might possibly be looking for someone to buy it for me over
> >there.
> 
> I believe that this is on the Vollenweider's "The Trilogy" disc. Sorry, I
> just sold it last week :(

If you read carefully, the wording on "The Trilogy" says "excerpts from
Eine Art Suite."  It doesn't (apparently) contain the entire recording.

However I heartily recommend "The Trilogy" since it does contain 3 CDs
worth of material plus an EP plus the abovementioned work on two CDs,
and is therefor a better bargain.  I wasn't about to pay full price for
the 30-35 minutes of Vollenweider if you bought each of them separately.

--
Bruce Rodean                          Hewlett-Packard Company
rodean@fc.hp.com
From: prater-ethan@yale.edu (Ethan Prater)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Goldmine & Bootlegs...
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:55:01 GMT
Organization: Yale University
NNTP-Posting-Host: minerva.cis.yale.edu

In article <Bz9n3I.GM6@rice.edu> starke@cs.rice.edu (Sean Starke) writes:
>
>  A fried of mine was looking through an issue of Goldmine
>and was amazed at the amount of advertising for what is
>obviously bootleg material (plenty of which he wants).
>
>  His concern, and a rec.music.cd can o' worms, is the 
>legality of purchasing said material either from domestic
>or foreign companies.

Did your friend notice that there were *no* ads for bootleg tape dealers?
Goldmine has recently phased out ads from tape dealers, demanding that
they have copyright stuff even if they advertise in the classifieds. I'm
sure this move will reduce their readership dramatically (I won't renew).

But I guess since bootleg CD's are legal in Europe that CD comapanies can
advertise CD's. I don't know about the American distributors. In any case,
I have been ordering boots for a long time, as have many other people,
obvious from the amount of advertsising, and nothing has happened to me
nor anyone I trade with. I think that if anyone gets in trouble it would
be the distributor; it would be a monumental waste of time to go after the
hundreds of thousands of individual buyers.

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                    |  two thousand faculty members of Harvard University."
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Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: pejulaju@daredevil.cs.hut.fi (Pentti Lajunen)
Subject: Re: Star Wars's CD playing Bee Gee's music!?
Reply-To: pejulaju@niksula.hut.fi (Pentti Lajunen)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:25:24 GMT

In article <Bz24us.E70@acsu.buffalo.edu> v999r36x@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Yao S. Ko) writes:

>I recently mail-ordered the Star War's 2 disc CD set and later found out
>that the entire first disc's playing Bee Gee's songs. I don't know why
>Polygram made this kind of mistake and believe there must be thousands of
>the same CD circulating. 


Its not an mistake. Its the new soundtrack album for the upcoming
director's cut version of STAR WARS. There will be also new similar Bee Gee's
music versions of The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.

I heard also rumors that Spielberg and Lucas got so fond of Bee Gee's music
that Indiana Jones saga is going to have a similar treatment.
From: dwo1@gte.com (Donald W. Ottens)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Erasure (concert), New Order, Red Flag
Keywords: erasure, new order, red flag
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:47:41 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: GTE Laboratories Incorporated, Waltham MA


A couple of questions regarding these bands:

1.  Yes, erasure is on tour......has anyone been to their concert?
    what was it like?  Are they coming to the Northeast?  (I hope so).

2.  Does anyone know if New Order plans on getting back together soon?
    Do you think they'll ever tour again?

3.  Does anyone know anything about the band Red Flag?  If so, what
    can you tell me about their history.  I have their CD, Dance,
    and it's real kick'en.

thanks for your help.


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From: jwlr@escher.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Sony's MD portable player/recorder
Date: 21 Dec 92 00:21:33 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

gtas1@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Terrance Stedman) writes:

>	Wow!  The MiniDisc player being advertised of late looks very good.
>I wish CDs had song titles encoded on the disc like the MD does.  Trouble is,
>this portable MD player has a list of $750 U.S. dollars.  If that doesn't
>kill the format, nothing will.

That's probably what you would've said about CD's 11 years ago!

The usual pattern is:

New tech: High price, to recover development costs
Med tech: Lower price
Old tech: Low price, saturate the market (everybody's got one)

In September, 1982, I paid over $400 for a CD player that you can buy today
for under $100. (If you could get the same model, of course)
But I got to enjoy the format before "everyone" jumped in the bandwagon, and
(for me) it was worth it.

Expect MD units to be under $500 by next Xmas. (Great Psychic prediction)

				Jamesa Willer
[any opinions above are already registered with the federal government]
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,misc.consumers
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: CD walkmans
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 02:07:26 GMT
Organization: Usenet Power Elite: Crush-The-Innocent-Newbies Strike Team

bhostetl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brian Hostetler) writes:

>> I looking to buy a CD walkman. I would like any information and
>> recommendations. 
>
> Well, every Sony I've had has managed to break several times in a year. 

I've had only middling success with Sony home decks, though I'm reasonably
happy with the bottom-of-the-line Sony CDP-291 that I have now.  But my
very first CD player, which I got in August of *1985*, was a Sony D-5
Discman that's *still* going strong.  Unfortunately it's not mine anymore
-- I traded it off to my itinerant-musician kid brother about five years
back. 

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: corwin@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (carl.w.smedberg)
Subject: Re: FYI: The Compact Disc Connection service
Summary: follow up to original post about CDC
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 20:34:18 GMT

Ok, ok, now things have been cleared up about Compact Disc Connection. 

Although I read their shipping policy when I ordered, It wasn't clear
that they actually didn't stock any discs. Now the delay is more
understandable. 

Thanks for helping out!

Carl Smedberg
att!ihlpm!corwin
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: chiu@gpb-mac (Norman Chiu)
Subject: MiniDiscs -- What Are They?
Organization: SPS
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:59:46 GMT

In article <1992Dec9.154307.12851@bsu-ucs>,
00mjstum@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Matthew J. Stum) wrote:

> How long do these magnetic fields last, and are they damaged by outside
> magnetic sources (i.e. magnets)?
> 
> -- 
> Matt Stum                    Gwydion ap Myrddin       Ball State University
> 00mjstum@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu   Shire of Afonlyn, MK     Muncie, IN  USA


If I understand it correctly, recordable MDs consist of an amorphous
material such that its shape can be changed (from a bit zero to one,
and vice versa) when it is subjected to the intense heat (400 degrees C)
by the laser beam.  When this amorphous material is heated to 400 degrees,
the magnetic field underneath the disk then magnetize the bits to their
respective ones and zeros.  Afterwards the disk spins away from the laser
beam, cools down, and retains the shapes (bits) and the music.

So unless you throw the MD disk into an oven heated to 400 degree C,
you won't erase its music by just passing a magnet over it under
room temperature.

How long does MD last?  Well, Sony claimed that MD can perform, roughly,
a million re-writes/erases without losing any bits.

--
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From: lancer@lizardo.WPI.EDU (Stephe Lewis Foskett)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.audio
Subject: Re: MiniDiscs -- What Are They?
Date: 20 Dec 92 23:02:17 GMT
	<1992Dec17.015245.2628@tc.cornell.edu>
	<1992Dec18.162615.24629@wuecl.wustl.edu>
Organization: ZikZak Corporation
NNTP-Posting-Host: lizardo.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: amc@wucs1.wustl.edu's message of 18 Dec 92 16:26:15 GMT

>>>>> "amc" == Adam Costello <amc@wucs1.wustl.edu> writes:
amc> P.S. Does anyone know why magnetic disks are spelled with a "k",
amc> but optical discs are spelled with a "c"?

The general convention is that a disc is read-only, while a disk can
be written and read...  At least that's the last I heard...

.s.
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Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: jking@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au (Jason  King)
Subject: Sounds of 501's
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 22:42:04 GMT

I've been asked by a friend to see if anyone knows where he can get
a copy of the CD "Sounds of 501's".  It is a compilation of songs used
in Levi 501's ads.  It could be 2-4 years old.

Please mail me with any information.   Thanks!
-- 
Jason King					"I'm gonna do you slowly, mate!"
Email: J.King@nursing.utas.edu.au		Paul Keating.
University of Tasmania at Launceston		Prime Minister, Australia

Xref: sparky rec.music.cd:8314 rec.music.marketplace:2655
From: sek@eve.Berkeley.EDU (Spencer Kantor)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.music.marketplace
Subject: Obtaining UK CD's
Date: 7 Dec 92 21:56:55 GMT
Reply-To: sek@eve.Berkeley.EDU (Spencer Kantor)
Organization: Bell Communications Research, Red Bank, N.J.

Noticed the increased number of posts from folks across the water in 
the U.K and Ireland.....

Can someone point me to some good mail order sources for U.K. CD releases,
preferably a U.K.-based company that would ship to the U.S.

Most of the stores I deal with here can obtain a lot of U.K. releases but
I'm looking for some things on some smaller labels that stores and/or
distributors here have a hard time getting.

Would also consider some private arrangement if the currency exchange can
be worked out.

Thanks.
-- 
Spencer Kantor
Bell Communications Research

sek@rigel.cc.bellcore.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: starke@cs.rice.edu (Sean Starke)
Subject: Goldmine & Bootlegs...
Originator: starke@lutetia.cs.rice.edu
Reply-To: starke@cs.rice.edu (Sean Starke)
Organization: Rice University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:18:53 GMT


  A fried of mine was looking through an issue of Goldmine
and was amazed at the amount of advertising for what is
obviously bootleg material (plenty of which he wants).

  His concern, and a rec.music.cd can o' worms, is the 
legality of purchasing said material either from domestic
or foreign companies.

  Does anyone know the scoop on this?  Has anyone has any problems
with this?

  Feel free to e-mail...

Sean Starke
<starke@cs.rice.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller)
Subject: Re: FYI: The Compact Disc Connection service
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 18:54:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Right Bleedin' Church of Libertine Obfuscatology

In <1992Dec18.184643.13220@cbfsb.cb.att.com> corwin@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (carl.w.smedberg) writes:

>Just a friendly warning if you place an order from CDC. I placed
>an order 13 days ago and haven't see anything yet. I'd have
>to say that I'm dissapointed. It shouldn't take more than a
>week to ship a package via UPS ground from the west coast to 
>the Illinois, let alone 5 more days to pick 5 CDs off the shelf
>and package them! Maybe I've been spoiled by the overnight delivery
>provided by MACconnection. Even if I wanted 2nd day air, they
>still indicated it could take a week to pack the order!

CDC doesn't "pick 5 CD's off the shelf"  They do not maintain stock, they
order from a variety of distributors.  This is the main disadvantage of
their service.  They do let you know this when you order.  They say to
allow 2 weeks.  13 days is less than 2 weeks.  You should be receiving your
order any day now.

>Are you happy with this kind of service? 

I am happy with the service they provide.  It would be nice if they had
stuff in stock, but it might mean higher prices or less of a selection.  As
it stands, they have hard to find stuff for excellent prices.

They are a good service.  If you want stuff within a few days, you should
order from Noteworthy, but you wont find everything that CDC has.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,misc.consumers
From: junikka@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Jari Junikka)
Subject: CD walkmans
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 20:04:16 GMT

I looking to buy a CD walkman. I would like any information
and recommendations. Has Consumer Report reviewed these?
I don't want to pay more than, say $140. I've heard bad
things about SONY lately. I'd rather have a robust one,
than one with tons of fancy features. I'd like suffle play,
though....


regards,

jari
(junikka@math.wisc.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: mikel@networx.com (Mike Lempriere)
Subject: Re: How do I fix a scratched CD?
Organization: NetWorx
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1992 23:20:27 GMT

stephen carlisle simms (ssimms@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu) wrote:
: Hello-
: 
: Tragedy happened to me last night... One of my Frank Zappa discs
: from the Beat the Boots II somehow ended up INSIDE my disc player.
: The tray came back empty and the disc was somewhere else.  I don't
: know how this happened... I got the disc out but it was scratched
: pretty badly.  Now the disc skips in several places and the last
: track won't even start (I can't even scan into the track).
: What can I do to repair this disc?  I know that there have been
: discussions of this sort in the past and apologize for asking
: again.  Could someone E-mail me some (step by step) directions
: for CD repair?
: 
: Thanks for your time!
: In anguish,

A friend of mine insistsmost plastic polishes will do the trick
(eg floor polish)!  I never had the guts to try this though...

Another friend says to use toothpaste -- apply gently with a soft
eg flannel or chamois cloth.  I never tried this either.

At our local CD store, they have a CD cleaning kit, (I think the one
I use is made by DiscWasher -- remember them from LP days?).  It
commes with a cheapy plastic padded CD holder, to hold the disk
safely while you're rubbing it, a tube of cleaner fluid, and a
slightly abrasive fluid for polishing out scratches.

I buy mostly used CDs, (about 230 of my approx. 260 are used), so I've
had to use this stuff many times.  It is worth the money (about $12).
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: dlucy@sandr.COM (Doug Lucy)
Subject: A different Thomas Dolby question (maybe)
Organization: S&R Software, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:22:26 GMT

With all the TD CD questions recently, I've listened to my album again
(yes, I proudly own a RECORD PLAYER!).

I was wondering, is there a digital version of the US vinyl version of
"She Blinded ME..." (with the longer-than-CD intro) available
anywhere?

If not, does anyone have one of those laser-beam record players?

-- 
| Doug Lucy        | (there's a knock at the door; Ren answers it)       |
| S&R Software Inc | Stimson J. Cat? You've just won 47 Million dollars! |
| dlucy@sandr.com  | 47... MILLION DOLLARS! I'm the cat!                 |
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From: jbhuber@iastate.edu (Joseph B Huber)
Subject: Re: FYI: The Compact Disc Connection service
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 23:52:52 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.184643.13220@cbfsb.cb.att.com> corwin@cbnewsg.cb.att.com
(carl.w.smedberg) writes:
>Just a friendly warning if you place an order from CDC. I placed
>an order 13 days ago and haven't see anything yet. I'd have
>to say that I'm dissapointed. It shouldn't take more than a
>week to ship a package via UPS ground from the west coast to 
>the Illinois, let alone 5 more days to pick 5 CDs off the shelf
>and package them! Maybe I've been spoiled by the overnight delivery
>provided by MACconnection. Even if I wanted 2nd day air, they
>still indicated it could take a week to pack the order!

If you read the CDC policies (which are on-line) it plainly states that it
takes 1.5 - 2 weeks for orders to arrive. I ordered many times from them and
CDC as always met this deadline. Also, they are quite busy this time of year.


>Are you happy with this kind of service? 

CDC plainly states its policy and have followed it on all my orders. It's no
problem for me. 


-- 
Joe Huber 
(jbhuber@iastate.edu)        | Capt. James T. Kirk on the 2nd law of thermo: 
Dept. of Mech. Egr.          |  "It's not a hundred percent efficient,
Iowa State University        |   but nothing ever is."
From: lars.gronsberg@thcave.no (Lars Gronsberg)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Huey Lewis & Simply R
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:26:00 GMT
Reply-To: lars.gronsberg@thcave.no (Lars Gronsberg)
Organization: Thunderball Cave BBS - Oslo, Norway  (47 2) 56 70 18

TO: s92269dt@sfc.keio.ac.jp

DT>Xref: nuug rec.music.misc:68025 rec.music.cd:20250
DT>Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.music.cd
DT>From: s92269dt@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Daisuke Takimoto)
DT>Subject: Re: Huey Lewis & Simply Red U.S. Release Dates??????
DT>Message-ID: <S92269DT.92Dec11174245@cs1.sfc.keio.ac.jp>
DT>References: <1992Dec9.224713.1@saturn.glassboro.edu>
DT>Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 08:42:45 GMT

DT>  This Huey Lewis's best album has already released in Japan.

Hello,do you know about any mail order company that export CD's from
Japan?? Seems to be a lot of cd releases in Japan , that never reach the
rest of the world.Have been buying some Japanese psychobilly stuff
trough the U.K.,but they don't stock many titles.
L.o.g.
lars.gronsberg@thcave.no

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From: dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu (Derek Langsford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Duff CD's
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:01:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1gaoiqINN2qn
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
NNTP-Posting-Host: sunstroke.sdsu.edu

georgen@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (G. Ng) writes:

> I noticed that most imports from Germany and Japan are fairly well made,
> whereas stuff from Columbia and other US/Canada companies have pinholes and
> "Al-deficiency" on some of their CDs.

An indication of the poorer quality control of US made CDs.  Is this one
factor in why US CDs are so cheap compared to the rest of the world? 

> >this phenomenon and list other labels that seem to be prone. How significant
> >do you think this is in terms of sound quality?
> 
> What the techie told me was that sound quality remains the same - it's all
> digital.  The problems is that it might skip at points where there are
> significantly large pinholes, or thin aluminum/other metal coating.

Pinholes may not affect the sound quality but I hope you are not implying 
that CDs of the same album sound the same in all countries because nothing
could be further from the truth. It depends on the mastering and the master
from which the CD master is made.  These are different in different countries,
especially for analogue recordings.  

Derek
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