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From: mel@derringer.EBay.Sun.COM (Melvin Cagle)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Basic Electricity (was Re: Jump start with
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:15:22 GMT
Reply-To: mel@derringer.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: derringer.ebay.sun.com


    The comment was made for the few that wanted the car running.  All basic 
electricity statements are true. On a battery only start.
    I on one occasion had a battery go open 300 miles from home on a Sun.
luckily I found a hardware store open and got a 12v generic motorcycle replacement
tied it to the side of my bike and was on my way.
         (dosen't that tug at your heart strings??)
   But really....  Take care of your bike and we won't see you waiting by
the side of the road.

Mel   DoD 0497                                             ;To live without living
      AMA 553782                                           :Is to die without dieing
      SRRA 8205                                            :Ride to live
      ABATE L15
    
From: edw@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Edward Walsh)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 22:05:00 GMT
Subject: Re: RE: Meta-flame, etc...
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

Oops, it was Jeff Kaskey who first made the comment about "I own two
motorcycles, brand unimportant." Sorry Seth. The rest of my statement
still holds though. ( I posted it, got off the system, realized my
mistake, got back on, and my post had gone out to the network...sometimes
it's possible to catch an oops on our system.)
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From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: How to get 11 tickets in one ride (my story)
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:01:19 GMT
Organization: Washington State University

In article <3300064@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com> danb@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com (Dan Bergmen) writes:
>You're a complete idiot. If it were up to me, I would have permanently
>revoked your license and confiscated your motorcycle. The sport just
>doesn't have any room for this kind of crap.

yep, hook, line, sinker, rod, reel, and a good section of the end of the dock.

Ride Free,

Bill
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FJ1200 R100GS/PD 740GLE  KotV :-)
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True humor has beneath it the understanding that we are all
in this together.  Hugh Prather
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: grw@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gary Wasserman)
Subject: Re: Interstate Highway Speed Limits
Reply-To: grw@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gary Wasserman)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 17:45:31 GMT

In article <1992Apr1.215828.23460@ohrd.uucp> ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu (Jody Levine) writes:
> 
> Is it like
> this everywhere? And if so, where the hell are those people who are 'supposed
> to represent us' getting their ideas? Is unreasonably slow driving a
> cult movement run by the government? Why is it so difficult to do something
> about it?
>

This seems to be my day to make points:

1. If you go into government and stay there long enough you
   learn how to use high visibility 'problems' to distract
   the public from problems you can't solve.  

2. If you stay in government long enough you learn to focus
   all governmental activity on people who constitute a dis-
   enfranchised group in society.  Poor people, native people,
   and motorcyclists receive a disproportionate amount of
   government attention.  Why?  See #1 above.


To sum up: You as a motorcyclist are a perfect focus of governmental
attention.  Better yet by turning the goverment's, and thereby the
public's, attention to you and what you do the people in government
effectively make YOU the issue.  In this way the government gets
off the hook since they can't solve any of the important problems
in every day life (and shouldn't be trying to).

What we have here is the inverse of 'That goverment which governs
least governs best.' (or is it 'that governs best governs least'?).

-Gary





















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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: markb@solbourne.com (Mark W. Bradley)
Subject: Re: Liberty Radar Detector
Organization: Solbourne Computer Systems
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 20:22:31 GMT

In article <rvjo8INNnhr@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> jbaum@baumer.East.Sun.COM writes:
>I'm in the market for a radar detector and May's issue of cycle world has an ad for the liberty mc radar detector. Supposedly this thing is being discounted by the manufacturer from $329 to $99. Does any have any experience with this product good or bad.
>
>
I have one.  It works.  The external noisemaker went pretty silent after
some water got deep into it, so use the earphone jack.  Originally mounted
it inside my fairing (next to the engine) using the velcro/adhesive 
mounting alternative (they supply 2 or 3 hard and soft options w/ the
unit (hey, so do *I*)).  The heat turned the adhesive to liquid on a warm
summer day and since then, I'v found it quite convenient to keep it in
my magnetic tank bag, which goes everywhere w/ the bike.  It paid for
itself pretty quickly here, where radar (now laser, too) is pervasive.

						markb

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From: kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles.racing
Subject: Re: Hockey equipment as safety gear
Date: 31 Mar 92 16:01:53 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: Array Microsystems, Colorado Springs, CO. USA

PAH112@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
: 
: Hello,
: 
: body armor.  The elbow pads would give more than adaquate protection, and the
: shoulder pads are TONS better than the crap that T-pro sells.  There are other
                                  
Look into quality manufacturers of protective gear.  IMHO you are correct in
what you classify T-pro.  Tp stuff is good for beginners and slow kids who
will grow out of the better stuff too quickly to be cost effective.  I
know I'll get flamed by someone who swears by T-Pro, but so be it.  If you
want to wear your hockey stuff, it beats nothing, but it also tends to 
be bulky and hot. (from what I've _seen_)  Take the time to shop around
for what  fits you best and what you can afford.  For example, some folks
will swear by Thor Shock armor and others will tell you that TS is sh*t and
Hallman rules.  Find what _fits_you_best_ and go with it.  

Have fun, happy trails,

ps.. i din't inhale either,

  O                    Ken Murphy aka kenm@array.com              President RMEC
 <M> MerfMan          DoD #0479      '92 KTM 250 EX/C              Member COHVCO
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From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: BICYCLE CRASH
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 15:56:26 GMT

In article <14770@optima.cs.arizona.edu> sham@cs.arizona.edu (Shamim Zvonko Mohamed) writes:
>In article <1907.29D94FEB@kennel.FIDONET.ORG> john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton) writes:
>>I've asked hundreds of bicyclists if they knew (here in CA) they are under
>>the same vehicle code as cars and motos. Many said yes. To these, I always
>>ask, have you broken the code today. Almost all must admit they had.
>
>I really don't understand how motorists blithely ignore speed limits, but then
>pass judgement from some high moral ground about cyclists rolling through
>stop signs. And I'm not talking about blowing one off, but just rolling through
>after correctly yielding right-of-way. So sure, I'll come to a complete stop at
>a stop sign the day all motorists obey all speed limits.

In California, the leading cause of accidents is NOT speeding, but FAILURE TO
YIELD RIGHT OF WAY. This includes stop signs, stop lights, etc. San Francisco
cops are really starting to crack down on this (a friend of mine just got a
$100 ticket on his bicycle). More than that, a motorcycle could win a speed 
war with most cars, but neither 'bike' would win a right of way contest. So
my suggestion is to come to a complete stop.

Mike

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From: fist@iscp.bellcore.com (Richard Pierson)
Subject: Re: Kaw KLE500/NM
Organization: Bellcore
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 13:19:26 GMT

Why don't you build your own from scratch, that way it
will have exactly what you want on it. Go get a Drag specialties
catalog and pick a frame, frontend,wheels,brakes,seat,motor&trans
and make it a winter project. It is a lot of fun and when done
you will know it by heart.

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From: carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis,LL2-2B,5439,)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What do we call Harleys?
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:50:56 GMT
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

In article <1992Apr8.174603.19971@bwdls61.bnr.ca> space@bwdlh522.bnr.ca (Scott Pace) writes:
>Japanese bikes are called "rice burners", Italian bikes are called "pasta
>burners", so what do we call American bikes (Harleys)?

We call them motorcycles.  Harleys just _are_.  Those other inferior
beasts need "burner" labels to distinguish them from actual motorcycles.

Oh, I suppose if you're talking about grand old tradition, history of
motorcycling, bygone-era -type Harleys, you could call them
oil-burners.  But it would be unnecessary and redundant.

Above all in good fun and kind spirits :-)  Standard disclaimers apply.
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From: joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Leaded or Unleaded
Date: 16 Apr 92 02:22:12 GMT
Reply-To: joe@zx11.cactus.org
Distribution: world
Organization: NOT

jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
]BFRIBERG@finabo.abo.fi (Welcome to the Pleasuredome!!) writes:
]v058l789@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu writes:
]>> 	A friend of mine has a question for his bike.  He has a 1973
]>>Honda CB350F and wants to know if it is O.K. for  the motor if he just runs
]>>unleaded gas with no additives.Anybody got anything worthwhiel to say about 
]>>using straight pump gas in a motor made to run in the "leaded era".

]>Do not i repeat NOT use unleaded in that bike!
]>Unleaded fuel will cause the valve seats to burn up 
]>(or something like that).

]My mechanic, who has been working on Honda twins since the mid '60's tells me
]that he has _never_ experience problems, or heard of problems from reliable
]sources, running unleaded gas in Honda twins of that vintage.

ditto JEQ's response...
I gotsa 74 CB350F in my garage that's had a whole buncha unleaded run
through it with no problems.

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From: jamesf@public.BTR.COM (James G. Franklin  jamesf@btr.com)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Electronic countermeasures
Keywords: help
Date: 16 Apr 92 05:41:05 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. Contact: Customer Service cs@BTR.COM

In article <1992Apr14.145727.21143@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>Besides, when you can see the detectors in every other car, and see
>a dozen brake lights flash in unison for no apparent reason, why bother
>spending money on one of your own?

Back when I was in NY, the only radar detectors my friends and I used were
the poor little rich kids taking their high school graduation present 450SELs,
325is and Z28s to college. They zoom by at 90, we keep back enough to 
gradually slow down when we see them almost fishtail out of control trying
to slow down in time to beat the instant-on radar. ANd laugh at them when they
don't.

The only r.d. I've ever owned was a Fox grille-mount that came with my van.
One day were out doing near the limit and it goes off. We curiosly search for
the source of the radar up ahead and see nothing. When we return our 
concentration to the road immediately in front of us, we see a cop no more
that ten feet in front of us. What a useless piece of junk. Made for a very
good laugh, though :-).

Jim 

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From: norton@camins.camosun.bc.ca (Simon Norton)
Subject: 50cc Harley???
Organization: Camosun College
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 20:33:39 GMT

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Date: Monday, 6 Apr 1992 17:44:46 EST
From: Mike Mychalkiw <ACAD8059@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: A newbie with an idea.

Greetings netters and DoDers,
     I have just received the DoD membership list and have confirmed that my
number of choice is not taken.
     I have yet to get an official ok to use my DoD number, but when has that
ever stopped anyone before.
     I have and idea for sub-group to rec.motorcycles. It is
 rec.motorcycles.dod-merchandise. It would be a good place for keeping track
of orders and availability of DoD merchandise. Netters can read in this news
group what has been offered before and then if there is enough interest second
orderings can maybe put together. Some of us late comers may what to get in on
the action.
     Good riding to all.

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From: davet@loowit.wr.tek.com (Dave Tharp CDS)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Caught my eye...
Keywords: UGH!
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:54:57 GMT
Organization: Tektronix - Colorado Data Systems, Englewood, CO

In article <1992Apr13.132910.23674@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>
>===========================
>CHANG JAING '41 Chinese war
>bike w/sidecar, BMW, many
>extras.  Exc.  COnd.  $5500.
>      708-246-8588.
>===========================
>
  Somebody around the Denver area managed to get a container of these
things shipped in, and they've been selling new for about $2800.  Yep,
it's a copy of a R75M military beemer, flathead motor, cast iron
cylinders, four forward gears and one reverse.  I saw one down at the
BMW shop, and the frame welds appear to have been excreted by small
birds.  The worst workmanship I've ever seen on a motorcycle.
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From: cl3d+@andrew.cmu.edu (Carl D. Lovejoy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Toe clips on bicycles (was: Re: BICYCLE CRASH)
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:33:46 GMT
Organization: Astm Center, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

In article <1972.29DD5424@kennel.FIDONET.ORG> john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
(John Hamilton) writes:
>Just as the squids who wrap crotch rockets up in the mountains because they
>go too fast for their skills and road conditions could stay alive if they
>slowed down or went to the track, so too could bicyclists die/get hurt in
>far fewer numbers if they quit using toe stirrups and ignoring traffic
>laws. Is that too hard to comprehend?

    I have tried to stay away from this silly flamage but I have to
comment here folks.  

    John You are a BOOB.  I do not know if you ride a bike but, if you
do you still do not know what the hell you are talking about.  I have a
pair of Shimano 105 clipless pedals on my Cannondale and far from being
unsafe, they are in fact much more likely to save you from a spill then
fall.  They are just like ski bindings in that they only require a quick
flick of your foot to the side and they pop right out.  

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.autos.tech
From: zardoz@rx-db (zardoz@rx-db.hf.intel.com)
Subject: Re: Looking for a suction cup/magnet (dent pull)....
Organization: Intel Development Tools Operation, Hillsboro, OR
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 20:54:22 GMT

I don't understand all this.  Body shops do not use magnets and rarely
use suction cups.  If the dent is that easy to pull, then it can be kicked
out from the back, popped out with a tap on the edge (door skin dent),
or popped out with compressed air in the case of a motorcycle tank.
The j-rod or hook, pry bar, etc. is also a way.
All the motorcycle tank dents I ever did were not so easy.  I had to
braze shims on the outside of the tank to get something strong enough to
pull on.  When ever I put fire to a gas tank, its always full of water
except for a bubble where I'm working.  The metal absorbs the stuff and
no amount of drying out will help.  I remember a guy in some shop showing
me how to weld on an automobile gas tank with compressed air blowing thru
it to make it safe.  I stood way back and watched as the gas tank suddenly
fattened out like a watermelon as a flame shot out the neck.  

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From: ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Joseph Andy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.bicycles,rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: A new clipless pedal i saw at the local bikeshop
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:27:33 GMT
Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Howdy,
> >These pedal clips could make all the acceleration difference on those
> >pesky Probes I always have to beat off the line.  Maybe with them the
> >drivers could keep up...

Boy, I was sure wrong about cross-posting being irritating.  Take this
post for example.  Previously when I read rec.mc, there was nothing
but irritating stuff about motorcycles and the folks who rode them.
Imagine my delight when that tedium of boring motorcycle related posts
was broken by a ray of light in the form of information that a "new
clipless pedal would let Jonathan beat out Probes off the line."

(do I really have to say it?)
(ok)

:-)

Mark

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From: edsmigu@edski.edski.ericsson.se (Mikael Gudmunds)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Re: How Dangerous is a Bike, really?????
Date: 8 Apr 92 09:40:01 GMT
	<1992Apr6.122156.12013@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
	<YdsDX8q00WBN48To0h@andrew.cmu.edu>
Organization: Ericsson Data Services, Stockholm,Sweden

In article <YdsDX8q00WBN48To0h@andrew.cmu.edu> jn1h+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Robert Nadzam) writes:

   >Path: ericom!sics.se!ifi.uio.no!kth.se!eru.mt.luth.se!bloom-beacon!micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!wupost!udel!rochester!cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!jn1h+
   >From: jn1h+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Robert Nadzam)
   >Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
   >Date: 7 Apr 92 01:20:08 GMT
   >References: <31342@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> <1992Apr4.235718.14227@wuecl.wustl.edu>
      <>1992Apr6.122156.12013@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
   >Organization: Senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
   >Lines: 10

   >>>Well, I would think that riding a car would be *MUCH* more dangerous than
   >>>riding a morotcycle, I think that's why they suggest driving the car instead
   >>>of riding on top of it but who knows.....


   >>What is a morotcycle?

   >It a bike for MOROn's

   >DoD #528

Nope! I know for a fact that morot is swedish for carrot (I should know, I happen
to be swedish) and, therefore, a morotcycle is a carrotcycle (whatever that is)!

//Mike