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From: clc5q@hemlock.cs.Virginia.EDU (Clark L. Coleman)
Subject: Re: Indianapolis-question
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:32:20 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.130636.23143@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> ratte@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de (  Cordula Reineke  ) writes:
>Hi, folx !
>
>I'd like to take part in a little quiz on SAT1 (TV-channel, that is) and
>need to know how often and when Becker won Indianapolis yet.
>The prize will be two tickets for the whole tournament in March and lots
>of other comfortable things... 


Becker won Indianapolis in 1988 (over McEnroe) and 1990 (over Lundgren),
and lost the final in 1991 (to Sampras). No doubles finals or titles.

1988 was the first year that Indianapolis hosted the "Hardcourt Championships".
Before that, it was the "U.S. Clay Court Championships."


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From: jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Duner)
Subject: Re: Who won between Martina vs Jimmy ??
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:27:45 GMT

 Jimmy won in two sets.  I only remember the first set being 7-5, I think.


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From: sef@Veritas.COM (Sef Kloninger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Numbers On the Balls
Keywords: Penn
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:44:08 GMT
Organization: VERITAS Software

In article <1992Sep28.172323.25087@eng.umd.edu> clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin) writes:
>
>   I had been under the impression that regular and heavy-duty balls also
>weighed the same though the felt was thicker on one than the other, but
>people in the group say otherwise.   The heavy-duty balls are used for
>hard courts since there is more felt and can take the abrasion of a
>hard court.

So whats the deal with "practice balls?"  I've seen these (made by
Wilson, I think).  Are they lower quality/shorter life span or
something?


	thanks
		seffer
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From: gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: ATP Men's Ranking: October 4
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:15:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: knex.gate.2BR7RB1w165w

The ATP top 50 ranked singles players:  
   (Through October 4th):
 
 1. Jim Courier, United States, 3,574
 2. Pete Sampras, United States, 3,366
 3. Stefan Edberg, Sweden, 3,345
 4. Michael Chang, United States, 2,428
 5. Petr Korda, Czechoslovakia, 2,215
 6. Boris Becker, Germany, 2,155
 7. Andre Agassi, United States, 2,001
 8. Goran Ivanisevic, Croatia, 1,969
 9. Ivan Lendl, United States, 1,908
10. Wayne Ferreira, South Africa, 1,732

11. Carlos Costa, Spain, 1,561
12. MaliVai Washington, United States, 1,547
13. Michael Stich, Germany, 1,466
14. Guy Forget, France, 1,393
15. Richard Krajicek, Netherlands, 1,390
16. Sergi Bruguera, Spain, 1,332
17. Alexander Volkov, Russia, 1,256
18. Aaron Krickstein, United States, 1,222
19. Thomas Muster, Austria, 1,189
20. Karel Novacek, Czechoslovakia, 1,127
 
21. Emilio Sanchez, Spain, 1,121
22. Francisco Clavet, Spain, 1,112
23. John McEnroe, United States, 1,076
24. Brad Gilbert, United States, 1,012
25. Amos Mansdorf, Israel, 976
26. Carl-Uwe Steeb, Germany, 955
27. Andrei Cherkasov, Russia, 944
28. Andrei Medvedev, Russia, 922
29. Omar Camporese, Italy, 886
30. Fabrice Santoro, France, 853

31. Alberto Mancini, Argentina, 853
32. Andrei Chesnokov, Russia, 831
33. Jordi Arrese, Spain, 816
34. Javier Sanchez, Spain, 797
35. Magnus Larsson, Sweden, 793
36. Wally Masur, Australia, 789
37. Paul Haarhuis, Netherlands, 784
38. Derrick Rostagno, United States, 768
39. Arnaud Boetsch, France, 757
40. Franco Davin, Argentina, 744

41. Guillermo Perez-Roldan, Argentina, 732
42. Jakob Hlasek, Switzerland, 718
43. Marc Rosset, Switzerland, 698
44. Cedric Pioline, France,  693
45. Gabriel Markus, Argentina, 682
46. Henrik Holm, Sweden, 669
47. Renzo Furlan, Italy, 668
48. Jaime Oncins, Brazil, 657
49. David Wheaton, United States, 655
50. Bernd Karbacher, Germany, 644

======================
IBM/ATP RANKING METHOD
======================
Players are ranked by their best 14 results in events offering IBM/ATP
Tour computer points during the previous 52 weeks. IBM/ATP Tour Points
are calculated by adding tournament category points and bonus points
together. Tournament categories are: Grand Slam, Championship Series,
World Series, Challenger and Satellite. Each category has different
point values assigned to tournaments based on prize money awarded.
Bonus points are awarded for defeating a player who is ranked in the
IBM/ATP Top 200.

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From: eswaran3372@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: REVERSE SINGLES
Date: 28 Sep 92 12:57:29 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Hi folks,

        I know Davis cup has Reverse Singles but I don't know what

this means exactly. Can any one explain to me the term "Reverse-Singles"?

What are the implications of reverse singles to an individual player?

To a team?

Thanx-a-lot

Sasi M. Eswaran                ESWARAN3372@ISCSVAX.UNI.EDU
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From: palmer@uvmark.uucp (Filaman)
Subject: Re: Stringing Patterns
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 19:44:24 GMT
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article <1992Sep28.165726.15532@hplb.hpl.hp.com> rik@hplb.hpl.hp.com writes:
>	Please, could one of you expert stringers out there tell me if it is
>	possible to string an ordinary raquet diagonally, and if it is worth
>	trying.

It won't work. Try running some thread through the holes to see what it would
look like. Your racquet is not designed for this type of stringing pattern.
Just what do you think this will accomplish?
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From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Subject: Re: Tennis Raquet reccomendations
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 04:39:52 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Reply-To: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin)

In article <1992Oct1.024930.18181@uceng.UC.EDU>, bnataraj@uceng.UC.EDU (Bhaskar Natarajan) writes:[some stuff deleted]

> 
> I don't know whether you should avoid all Prince Graphites, but i'd say you
> try hitting a few balls before purchasing a raquet.
> 
> Of Course this is only my experience and it is very possible it is an
> isolated instance. See what the other nettors say.
> 
> BTW, can the racquet experts ( part time/full time :-)) tell me why
> my raquet vibrates like i said, and suggest remedies ?
> 

   Well, often when you hit a racquet off-center it can be a bit
jarring.  Usually a stiff racquet will jar a bit more than a
flexible one, in my experience.  The remedies include lowering the
tension, adding weight using lead tape near the center of the racquet
(supposedly that stabilizes the racquet but I have never tried this)
or using a Dunlop :).  

   Other opinions?

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From: milleman@athena.cs.uga.edu (Richard Milleman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Davis Cup History Question
Keywords: Davis Cup
Date: 5 Oct 92 02:33:13 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <5827@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu> mliu@ucsb.edu (Liu) writes:
>Hello:
>
>ESPN showed a short film clip of the year when Sweden beat Germany
>in the Davis Cup final.  I think it's the year of 1985.  It was 
>mentioned that the matches were played on very fast carpet, which
>was set up for Boris Becker.  

 Wasn't it the now the famous linoleum??

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From: ratte@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de (  Cordula Reineke  )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Indianapolis-question
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:06:36 GMT
Organization: Applied Math, University of Bonn, Germany

Hi, folx !

I'd like to take part in a little quiz on SAT1 (TV-channel, that is) and
need to know how often and when Becker won Indianapolis yet.
The prize will be two tickets for the whole tournament in March and lots
of other comfortable things... 
So could someone please help me by the end of November?

By the way, why did Edberg lose his #1-rank so soon?
I'm very pleased to see Sampras on #2, but Courier on 1... that's bad.
Could someone post the new ranking, please?

Cordula

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From: ac@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (ac)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: sneakers for tennis
Date: 26 Sep 92 06:47:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

Hi, folks:

I'm going to buy a pair of sneakers for playing tennis. My problem is: 
I play on hard courts for twice a week and my shoes are worn out quite
soon, especially at the area under the big toes. Could someone 
recommend me a model/brand which is more durable. I prefer high-top.
Thanks!!

Alex Chou
EE, Purdue Univ.
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From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Subject: Re: Davis Cup final times and phone #'s
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 92 00:30:00 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Originator: clin@state.eng.umd.edu


   The annoucers on ESPN expressed their regrets that the Davis Cup
prices were too high.  Mary Carillo felt that there should be some
lower priced tickets available, at least for children.  They had planned
to sell tickets to the recent Davis Cup matche between Sweden and
the US in three day blocks, but they couldn't sell out, due to the
high prices, and even when they sold it day by day, they couldn't
sell out.

   Personally, I think that they shouldn't overprice these tickets
either.  It should be kept in a reasonable price range (say 15 US
dollars on one day) for some of the seats.

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu
From: kleung@terapin.com (Keith Leung Keith Leung)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Tennis Raquet reccomendations
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:44:03 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <1a5seiINN90@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cf947@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
(Chun-Hung Wan) writes:
>
>I'm going to buy a new tennis raquet soon and I'm thinking of either the
>Prince Graphite of the Wilson ProStaff (Edberg's)  Does anyone use either
>of these, and if so so what are your opinions of them?  I used to use the
>ThunderStick but after a while I hated it.  My shots flew everywhere, and
>I lost control.  So I've decided to go for something more less extreme like
>the Graphite or Prostaff.  How about the Prince Synergies?  
>Your opinions would be much appreciated, thanks.
>-- 
    Hi there,
  When you said Pro Staff (Edberg), you didn't say much about the
graphite.  I will assume that you are talking about the graphite 2.
Between these two rackets, I must say that the graphite is much
better for all court play.  The graphite does have one bad thing that
I've noticed, ( and alot of other people too ) that once you hit the
ball off the sweetspot, the racket will twist.  By that, I mean you'll
lost control if you don't hit the ball square on.  The PSC is a racket
that feels soft,  and also feels like it has a bouncy sweetspot.  So,
if you are looking for a crisp feel on a racket, you might want to
try some others out before buying any of these two.

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From: shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung)
Subject: Re: Agassi vs. Courier??
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 03:30:46 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.142537.1@cmcvx1.claremont.edu> ptsai@cmcvx1.claremont.edu writes:

>hello, i would like to raise a question about agassi here, it seems like he's
>unable to beat Jim Courier after his lost at the 91(?) french final, is it 
>simply because he's just not as good as Jim or are there some
> mental/psychological factors behind it. Maybe you still remember, agassi 
>was playing quite ok and actually taking control over courier before the rain
>started, and all of a sudden after the came out of the locker room and agassi
>started to go down....They are both playing the similar power-baseline game
>except maybe jim has a bigger net game than agassi, but this doesn't seem to be
>the reason why agassi seems to have a shadow of courier over him....

When Courier beat Agassi at the US Open this year, it was the fifth
straight time that Courier has beaten Agassi. Clearly, that is more
than just a coincident. I think John McEnroe said it very well as
a commentator in that match. The difference is that Courier has a better
serve and is physically stronger (and therefore can remain stronger
towards the latter part of a match).

To be fair, the rain delays in the 1991 French Open final did seem
to help Courier. This is a pretty well known case by now. Agassi was
in control in the early part of the match. During the rain dealy,
Courier's coach told him to stay a few feet behind the baseline to
received Agassi's serve. That one piece of advice apparently turned
the match around for Courier, giving Courier his first Grand Slam title
and seems to have turned his career around as well.
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From: shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: IN DEFENSE OF STEFFI GRAF
Date: 1 Oct 92 07:53:03 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <92274.180010THN103@psuvm.psu.edu> <THN103@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>I agree with you that Graf has the mental and physical attributes to be one of
>the top players, but that's not enough to be #1.  Monica Seles has proven this
>point well by taken over the top by a large margin.  Seles does not play net or
>have all court game but still dominate.

While Seles has continuously been #1 for a year and certainly deserves
to be there, she is not ahead of Graf by a large margin. The difference
is about 35 points or so (roughly 277 vs. 242) and was only 25 points or
so before the US Open. Had Graf won that very close French Open final
or the US Open, she could have been #1. That is not at all a very
comfortable lead and can turn around in a hurry. When Graf was truely
dominating, she was ahead of then #2 Martina by over 100 points.

>I believe Graf is a very talented tennis player and that's why she is the #2 pl
>ayer in the world.  However, to consider her the best player is premature.  Sel
>es have proven herself as the best right now without the need to improve her ga
>me.  Until Graf prove that she has more than just the physical and mental aspec
>t of the game and to beat Seles consistently, then Graf and many others can con
>sider Graf as the best.

Actually, Seles is well aware of the fact that the field is improving
rapidly and she too needs to improve her game to stay ahead, especially
her lead isn't that much. Merely three years ago people were saying
that Graf would be #1 for her entire career. Not improving her game
is exactly what is happening to Graf. Players she used to beat easily
such as Sanchez-Vicario and Capriati are now having close matches
with Graf and starting to win more often. As Natasha pointed out recently,
Graf's head-to-head record against Seles is quite good. If I am allowed
to play around with statistics a little, in 1991 and 1992, those two
played each other four times and the only time Graf lost was at the
French Open final this year, and that was a 10-8 third set. Her problem
is to get to the final to play Seles in the first place. Seles is #1
because she is the more consistent one between the two (relatively speaking)
and has the mental toughness to pull out quite a few close matches.
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From: mliu@ucsb.edu (Liu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Davis Cup History Question
Keywords: Davis Cup
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:01:43 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara

Hello:

ESPN showed a short film clip of the year when Sweden beat Germany
in the Davis Cup final.  I think it's the year of 1985.  It was 
mentioned that the matches were played on very fast carpet, which
was set up for Boris Becker.  Sweden (with Edberg) won.  Does anyone remember
if Becker won his matches that year?
Next question: is the year after that (1986) when Sweden (with Willander &
Edberg)  upset U.S.A. (with Jimbo and Mac)?  
                             
Thanks.`

M. Liu
From: ertunazi@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: atp finals
Date: 29 Sep 92 12:06:29 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University

I'm a Lendl fan & watching his results to see if he'll be able to qualify for
the ATP finals. 
Does anyone know if ATP will take off last year's computer points (from the
finals) on Nov. 9th? If they do that, it will be tough for Lendl to be in top
eight, since he was in semis last year. I know this happened before US open &
Lendl was seeded lower than he should have been (Long Island points).

(Sorry for any mistakes, I'm trying to learn how to post)

Ilhan
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From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Subject: Re: ATP Rankings (was: Tournament Results)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 19:06:51 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Originator: clin@feedback.eng.umd.edu


In article <1992Oct6.052535.11615@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>, shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung) writes:
>Talking about that, here are the new rankings:
>
>1. Courier    3574
>2. Sampras    3366
>3. Edberg     3345
>4. Chang      2428
>
>The reason that Edberg dropped to #3 is once again the "53-week problem."
>Since some tournaments are held a week later this year compared to last
>year, Edberg has lost the points from his title in Sydney last year
>before he has a chance the defend them this week. #2 is the highest
>ranking Sampras has ever had. Neither Courier, Sampras nor Edberg
>has played any tournaments that count towards the ranking points
>since the US Open.

   Rankings are one of the things I don't really understand that well.
I had thought that there was a best of 14 ranking system.  So,
therefore, if you look back over 12 months, even if tournaments did
drop off, you would still have 14 there, and could divide the result
by 14.  So, even though some points drop off, you wouldn't count
that tournament toward the average.  

   The point system seems to be reminiscent of the old style
Volvo Points rather than the ranking.

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu

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From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Subject: Re: Modern Rackets
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 02:33:51 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Reply-To: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin)
Keywords: power, size, weight

In article <19869@ector.cs.purdue.edu>, knies@cs.purdue.EDU (Allan Knies) writes:
> There seems to have been a sparse thread on tennis racket
> recommendations lately...
> 
> Does anyone else have problems with modern rackets being 
> too big, too powerful, and having too low a string density?

   Frankly, I need more power in my game, but I think the
way I play my game (more of a control type game, though
I am playing more agressive tennis these days), it's hard for
me to generate a whole lot of power, and I don't notice it
on the widebodies.   Obviously, I am not very representative
of players in this respect.

> 
> I've played with Head TXEs for many years
> and before that an old wooden Jack Kramer (I don't switch
> rackets too often).
> 
> For example, I looked over some rackets at a sports store
> last year and couldn't find any rackets whose head was as
> small as my TXE. In fact, it was difficult to find a racket 
> with <= 90 square in.  I find that rackets with large rackets 
> to be too powerful and difficult to control (I don't need the
> racket to generate power for me).

   In fact, it is very hard to find small racquets these
days.   Mizuno makes a few, I think, for Lendl, but even
he has gone up in size to a larger racquet.  The midsizes
that you used to see at 80 sqaure inches are now 90 and
95 square inches.   There are a few racquets that have
relative small areas.   The Wilson Pro Staff Classic is
about 92 square inches, and I think the Dunlop Max 200G Pro
is about 88 square inches.   You may consider looking at
a mail order place like Holabird which can get old racquets
for you (if they have it in stock).

> Something else I have noticed is that bigger frames do not
> have the string density that my old Jack Kramer had. I break
> tons of strings and would be interested in a racket that had
> a higher string density to help prevent so much "notching" of
> my strings. The Kramer actually has more cross and main strings
> that my TXE (which has a somewhat larger head).

   Prince and Wilson both make racquets that have a denser
pattern toward the center.  My preference is for a less dense
pattern because I find it a little easier to spin the ball.
You may want to consider using String-a-lings (I haven't used
them myself, though) which you can get mail order, if you can't
find it in the sports stores.  They are supposed to prevent
strings from sliding which is one cause of notching.  You insert
them where the strings cross.  They aren't supposed to affect the
feel or play of the racquet, if I recall.

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu


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From: jmarlan@titan.nmt.edu (Jon Marlan)
Subject: Re: Numbers On the Balls
Keywords: Penn
Organization: New Mexico Tech
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:34:56 GMT

In article <mamohamm.717699818@vela> mamohamm@pluto.acs.oakland.edu (SKEPTICAL) writes:
>I am a relative newcomer to tennis playing (not watching).
>I recently went to get some new tennis balls and what I 
>noticed on Penn tennis balls were numbers (8,7,4, etc).
>Appearently there was nothing mentioned about the numbers
>outside the box. 
>
>So, I was wondering are these numbers indicate the weight, 
>speed, bounce or any such thing.

I believe the balls are numbered *only* for identification purposes.  

Jon

>
>Any reply or post will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>
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