HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: DOD launches payload???
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:05:12 GMT

In article <2193@shaman.wv.tek.com> robd@orca.wv.tek.com writes:
>From sci.space.news....
>
>
>Newsgroups: sci.space.news
>Subject: NASA Daily News for 11/20/92 (Forwarded)
>Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>
>Daily                 News
>Friday, November 20, 1992  24-hour audio service at 202/755-1788
>
> % Space flight management sets December 2 as launch date 
>                  for STS-53;
> % Third NASA Town Meeting begins today at 1:00 pm from 
>                  Indianapolis;
> % DOD payload scheduled for launch aboard Scout from 
>                  Vandenberg tomorrow;
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
>
>
>Alright damnit! What are you Californicators up to now????


Say....

Mary, any chance of getting a DoD patch glued to a pressure suit.... :')

Maybe some nose art for the FR...  of course, the FR's engines haven't
been tested against ingesting Geeky...
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Alaska Route (was What would you ride on a long distance trip?)
From: emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 21:32:07 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: Robert Smits

leavitt@cs.umd.edu (Mr. Bill) writes:

> brady_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Brady) writes:
> >Recently I've been thinking about taking a long distance solo ride -- a ride
> >Alaska from my home in New Hampshire. I'd ride the Trans-Alaska Hwy through
> >...
> 
> meb4593@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com (Michael Bain) replies:
> >Anybody planning on doing this trip should get The Milepost.  It has
> >detailed information on the Alaska Highway and other highways/ferry
> >routes throughout the Canadian Northwest and Alaska.
> 
> Getting onto a real tangent...
> 
> I've plotted an outlandish Canadian/Alaskan tour (a solid 6 months by my
> calculations), the main stumbling block of which would be securing passage
> for bike and self from the Great Slave Lake up the Mackenzie towards the
> Beaufort Sea.  The idea would be to ride into the Northwest Territories to
> the Great Slave Lake, load the bike and myself on a freighter at Yellowknife,
> perhaps Ft. Providence, then proceed by water the 1000 miles or so up the
> Mackenzie River above the Artic Circle, disembarking at either Inuvik or
> Artic Red River.  I would then once again proceed by moto, heading south
> towards Dawson.
> 
> Question:  Does anybody in the Great White North (or the States, for that
> matter) know what kind of river commerce exists on the Mackenzie, if any?
> 
> Okay, so the REAL main stumbling block to this trip is that I'm not
> independently wealthy.  We all gotta dream, don't we?  ;^)
> 
> ObOriginalThread:  For this ride, I'd select a R100GS P/D.  I don't expect
> to see a lot of Exxon stations between Inuvik and Dawson...
> 

I only know one motorcyclist who's ever ridden to Tuk. His name is Phil 
Funnel, and he used to own the BMW dealership in Vancouver B.C. 

Because I was still young and more foolish in those days, and was 
contemplating a crack at the cross-Canada record, I talked to phil 
several times about some of his long distance trips, including one to 
Tierra del Fuego and one to Tuk.

He did the trip to Tuk in winter time, because that was the only time of 
year that a road is open to Tuk, across the ice. He took his BMW, an 
extra battery (for his suit), and more experience and competence than any 
ten riders I have ever met.

He said he'd never been so cold in his life, and that he would under no 
conceivable conditions do it again.

The story - from Vancouver to Tierra del Fuego to Tuk and back was 
written up in the January, March and June 1979 editions of Cycle Canada.


If you're really serious, e-mail me and I'll make photocopies for you.


Robert Smits Ladysmith BC  | I don't wanna pickle,
emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca      | just wanna ride my motorsickle - AG
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From: noemi@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Noemi Berry)
Subject: Obituary
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 20:03:58 GMT

	Thursday, Nov. 12, 1992

	R.I.P: '82 Kawasaki KZ 305 CSR -- pronounced dead at the scene
	on CA Highway 85 southbound.  the little kawi revved its heart
	out to the end, but gave way to a fast loss of power and
	increasing exhaust rattle, and finally quit in a cloud of noise
	and smoke.  it lived for another hour, until the battery couldn't
	take repeated attempts to start the sick motor.  later, it was
	taken away by ERMAS (Eric Raible Motorcycle Ambulance Service)
	and brought to its final resting place, Santa Clara Cycle Salvage,
	where it will be junked and traded for $100 credit (or a helmet
	if i can talk those cheap bastards into it).

	the kawi is survived by a grieving, sentimental owner and an
	overjoyed owner's boyfriend, who proposed on-the-spot burial.
	however, it is believed that the little motorcycle really died
	of heartbreak, since rumors are that the owner was shopping
	for another motorcycle.

	a brief memorial service will be held at the as-of-yet
	unscheduled unveiling of the as-of-yet unpurchased NM.
	please do not send flowers; contributions to the AMA
	Motorcycle Museum would be appreciated instead.

noemi
*---------------------------------------------------------------------*
noemi@cs.ucla.edu (for now)     				KotSBL
DoD #443  						'82 KZ 305 CSR
							(R.I.P)
	Next Motorcycle (NM) countdown: one R65LS to go!
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From: trsajo@eua.ericsson.se (Anders Johansson)
Subject: Re: Swedish drivers/riders
Reply-To: trsajo@eua.ericsson.se
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:14:31 GMT


NO! there is no law in Sweden on using any kind of suit when riding.
Although most insurance companies will give you a discount on their premiums
if you use an approved suit (approval changes every now and then:-( .

There are lots of other bikes here than sport bikes!
Most of the tourers tend to be out touring other countries, though, 
and the yuppie-hogs, well, if you were a yuppie, would you have any time to 
ride a bike? Nah. As for the off-roaders, they are getting more and more 
common here, not only in the woods, but in the cities as well!

Conclusion: Yes, indeed, Sweden is GREAT! But if you want to have any fun
you need LOTS of money :-( If you can have fun without buying things like
food, gas, motorbikes, cars, plane-tickets, house/apartment, clothing, etc,
then you'll like Sweden even if you don't have any money! ;-)


Anders Johansson.
From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Leg Protection for cold weather?
Date: 24 Nov 1992 04:31:20 GMT
Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: pangea.stanford.edu

In article <so6n0ss@zola.esd.sgi.com> cj@sgi.com writes:
>|ObMoto:  I've been told that bicycling shorts are great for easing
>| butt-burn.  Comments?
>
>A friend tells me he wears them under his leather pants.  The
>padded butt must help.

Bicycle shorts probably help most by eliminating
chafing on underwear seams.  The padding isn't
in the places that typically get sore on long
motorcycle rides.

They work.
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@pangea.stanford.edu
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From: tomes@iastate.edu ()
Subject: Re: fog / driving lights
Keywords: visibility, amber or white, fog or driving
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:30:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.224438.21546@dg-rtp.dg.com> taylor@rtp.dg.com writes:
>I'm thinking of getting some 55 watt fog or driving lights
>for my 85 shadow for two reasons.
>1) So people can see me better.

yes, but you will probably be violating local laws concerning dimming lights
while following or for oncoming traffic.

>2) So I can see the road better. I recently installed a fairing that
>   someone lent me. Its great for keeping warm!  However, it has lots
>   of little scratches that I didn't notice until I rode last night. They
>   scatter oncoming headlights and make it impossible to see the road.
>
>I'm going to try to buff out the scratches.
>But, I think the lights might help too.

I use Meguiar's plastic polish.  It will take all of the little scratches 
(the ones responsible for the 'halo' effect around lights that you complain
of) but it is very difficult to remove deep scratches.

The standard white (not wide beam) lights have worked very well on my 'Wing.
Be aware that you are adding a 110 watt load to your bike's electrical system
and that may cause the battery to lose charge while riding, instead of
being charged.  When I have my driving lights, 80 watt high beam, radar 
detector, radio and then use my turn signals or hit the brakes, the extra load
pulls the voltage down to the point that the radar and radio shut off.

But for nighttime safety, I can SEE a real 1/4 of a mile.  I like that.

CP Tomes
MSF Instructor, killer of freshmen
From: pmr@drutx.ATT.COM (RastocnyPM)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Which scoots offer shaft drive?
Keywords: Inquiring minds want to know!
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:31:32 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO

Hi there net riders,
Last July, I crashed my scoot [hit by a drunk] and my V-45 Magna (aka
thunder) died.  I got a severe concussion from the ordeal (I was wearing
full leathers and boots with an RF-200 helmet) and I'm now looking for a
replacement to a smooth cruiser.  Does anyone have a list of ALL the shaft
drive scoots around?  Which of these are also water cooled?

	Phil Rastocny
	..!att!druks!pmr
	dod 4444
	[no ride for now]
From: lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Squash or slide?
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:50:20 GMT
	<BxoCHE.IyL@ccu.umanitoba.ca> <1992Nov18.112304.10192@aber.ac.uk>
Organization: Chemistry Dept., Harvard University
In-reply-to: azw@aber.ac.uk's message of 18 Nov 92 11:23:04 GMT

>>>>> On 18 Nov 92 11:23:04 GMT, azw@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Michael Woodward) said:
Andy> OK folks, so whats the net wisdom (!) here? Do you slide and wear
Andy> yourself away in a short red stain; or tuck up an roll to avoid the
Andy> rash, travel further  and end up under an oncoming cage as a hedgehog
Andy> impersonator?

No.
--
Jerry Lotto <lotto@lhasa.harvard.edu>         MSFCI, HOGSSC, BCSO, AMA, DoD #18
Chemistry Dept., Harvard Univ.  "It's my Harley, and I'll ride if I want to..."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rogerc@discovery.uk.sun.com (Roger Collier)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CBX and other 6 cyl's
Date: 18 Nov 1992 17:24:59 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: rogerc@discovery.uk.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: discovery.uk.sun.com

In article 1452@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu, labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) writes:
>
>	While in a Honda Dealership I came across a CBX 6 cylinder MC.
>What other inline 6's are out there...flying V-6's???
>

There was the Benelli SEI (750 or 900cc)    Is Benelli a town in Wales?? :-)
Laverda made a V6 1000, raced it a bit but never put it into production.
Honda made a 250cc inline 6 racer in the 1960s
Moto Guzzi made a V8......
I'm going to build a bike with a Viper V10 or maybe a Jaguar V12........
The local aerospace museum has a V2, but that's a German rocket intended for the
London market only.....


         #                                           # Let's not talk about
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o_/_\_o  #                                           # things that don't
 (O_O)   #     Sun Microsystems, Coventry, England.  # explode. I've used up
  \H/    #     (44) 203 692255                       # all of my magic powers
   U     #                                           # trying to do it in the
      DoD#226  GSXR1100L                             # road.
               Keeper of the GSXR1100 list.
From: robert.laszko@filebank.cts.com (Robert Laszko)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: NIGHTHAWK BLACKOUT
Date: 19 Nov 92 07:07:00 GMT
Reply-To: robert.laszko@filebank.cts.com (Robert Laszko)
Organization: The File Bank BBS - Fallbrook, CA  619-728-4318

>  Harley Davidson also sells high heat gloss black (among other
>colors in high heat ranges) that work well on engines. The stuff
>is really thick and hard and has good coverage when coming out
>of the can.                                                             

Thanks for the info, Richard. Harley's House of Harleys is half an hour 
away - I'll check it out.

Bob
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jjb@dtc.hp.com (Jim Brewer)
Subject: Re: Fastest Bike Known
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:23:59 GMT
Organization: HP Design Technology Center, Santa Clara, CA

In article <1992Nov21.080820.12579@netcom.com> tssmith@netcom.com (Tim Smith) writes:
>My usual advice to people getting a first bike is to get a streetable
>250cc dirt bike.  You said you won't ride on dirt, but you did
>mention dirt roads.  That's where you'll learn a lot about surfaces,
>and braking.  And have a lot of fun too!

  Good advice and I'd add that you'd better learn on the dirt since you
will fall and it hurts a lot less on the dirt.

>Buy new or in very good used condition. Bikes wear out a lot faster
>than cars, and a bike (except maybe a Beemer or a Harley) with 30000
>miles on it is usually completely crapped out.  Most cars don't
>cruise at 7000 rpm.  An unreliable bike can be a real bummer.

  The premise that bikes wear out in 30K miles may have been true a decade
or so ago, but not any more.  I've seen a number of >80K bikes that are
fine .. it really depends on how well they've been maintained.

Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:39663 ba.motorcycles:893
From: steve@presto.ig.com (Steve Barnhouse)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
Subject: best tires for wet
Keywords: street vs dp
Date: 19 Nov 92 01:08:58 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: IntelliGenetics Inc., Mtn. View, Ca.


OK tire gurus -- I want some factoids and opinions.  I have a beemer
GS and it's ready for a new rear tire.  Currently, I have Pirelli
dual-purpose tires on, MT 50's or 60's (I forget).  Winter is coming
to No Cal which means rain, and since I'll be commuting in the Santa
Cruz mountains, it means wet roads with lots of redwood droppings
making things slippery. 

Which tire is best for wet slippery paved roads?  I'm thinking of
putting Chen Sins on.  (NO, just kidding!)  I'm thinking of putting a
Metzler ME 88 on the rear and leaving the Pirelli dp tire on the
front.  Should I also put a street tire on the front -- maybe a
Metzler ME 33?  Or do you think a dp tire on the rear would give me
better traction on wet pavement?

Thanks,
--steve                                          steve@presto.ig.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:05:19 GMT

In article <By209y.49F@quadsys.com> roland@quadsys.com (Roland Besserer) writes:
|>                
|>If you want to ride without a helmet, fine.  Get the leg. to repeal the helmet 
|>laws and go splatter your brains on some highway, I won't stop you. But quit
|>trying to justify the fact that you are not being the most intelligent person
|>in the world.  I really don't know why the government insists on protecting 
|>the less intelligent from themselves any.  I say leave it up to natural
|>selection, Darwin WAS right, you know.
|
|Finally a voice of reason. Couldn't have said it better. Having riding without
|a helmet a couple of times, just to see what all this 'can't hear/can't see'
|BS is all about, I know that virtually any sound is masked by wind and engine
|noise at speeds over 30mph. As stated, the argument that a helme impairs
|vision is so obviously and utterly false, it discredits anyone using it.

Anyone?  When you can climb inside my head, and ride on MY bike,using MY 
perceptions, you can speak for me.  At the moment, you are showing yourself 
you be a control freak, and completely without recognition that people are 
different, and use their senses differently.  

One very good article here rightly stated that hearing at speed is affected 
by physiological differences like ear shape, and I can certainly testify 
that a good fairing and a quiet engine (called a Kawasaki Concours) can 
give quite good hearing at anything up to about highway speed with no helmet.

After that, it makes no difference, as I wear earplugs.

As for vision, I challenge you to ride in a car with a helmet.  In fact, just
to show the difference in hearing it makes, have your SO ride in the passenger
seat, also with a helmet on.  Just try to carry on a simply conversation,
and watch those blind spots!

Dave Svoboda (svoboda@void.rtsg.mot.com)    | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmm!)              |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!)              |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905  DoD #0330  COG 939  (Chicago)   |   -- Evo Woman
From: robinson@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU (Michael Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: FOR SALES SUPERMOTORCYCLES Trade mark DNEPR from USSR
Date: 17 Nov 1992 23:49:32 GMT
Organization: Institute of Cognitive Studies, U.C. Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cogsci.berkeley.edu

In article <DLK42-tffq@adis.msk.su> adis@adis.msk.su writes:
:  FEATURES:  REABILITY AND ENDURANCE. MOTORCYCLES ARE DESIGNED FOR THE
:             HEAVIEST-DUTY OPERATING CONDITIONS (THEY WERE USED IN THE
:             SOVIET ARMY NOT ACCIDENTALLY).
:
:  We invite young and energetic dealers to cooperation !!!
:  Do business with us!  Together we can do more!!!.
:
:  WE WAIT FOR YOUR REPLAY.
:  E-MAIL ADDRESS IN MOSKOW  adis@adis.msk.su

My how the world has changed.

Just a few short years ago, this would have been a perfect April Fool's
forgery joke.

Now, you really can buy the Red Army's finest sidecar on Usenet.




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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: HELMETS
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:40:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * 501-985-0059 * Public Access Usenet


-> But why on earth would anyone *NOT* wear a helmet. A guy with a 100$

 Propaganda from various political action groups have foisted off the
idea that the head is the part most likely to be damaged in an accident,
and any little bump will turn you into a veggie to be supported at state
expense for the rest of your life.

 In reality, you have a helluva lot more to worry about than just
bumping your head.  Statistically, legs are in a lot more danger.  The
head is also a fairly tough item, as has been graphically demonstrated
by the Los Angeles Police Department (smile, you're on candid video!).
Finally, I don't know of any helmetless veggies being supported at state
expense - most states will either turn you out or let you die; they're
not in the business of providing free medical care.

 You are undoubtedly better off wearing a helmet, but the fervor of
Those Who Will Save Us From Ourselves tends to raise people's hackles.
Like seat belts, abortion, or gun control, it's a subject normally
discussed with more fervor than reason.

=======================================================================
can you help me...help me get out of this place?...slow sedation...
ain't my style, ain't my pace...giving me a number...NINE, SEVEN, EIGHT
(Nazareth)               XJ900 TURBO at 15psi          DoD# 978  KotFAQ
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: Another fine product from the DoD
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 14:09:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.202739.11617@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>Send replies to jeq@i88.isc.com or ...!laidbak!jeq
>
>Bonus question for DoD Homebrewers:  Any interest in a limited run of
>Geeky the Daemon bottle caps?  If yes, any suggestions on manufacturers?

I'd be more interested in this than the coasters. The question is, what kind
of beer would be appropriate to put underneath them?

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bruce@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Bruce Krueger)
Subject: Re: what is Too Much Power?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:13:16 GMT

sorlin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven J Orlin) writes:
>DON'T SAY THAT!!!!  YOU CAN NEVER HAVE ENOUGH!!!!!  ARRRRRRRR!!!!!
   *******
   indeed.  I like mark donohue's (used to race porsche 917/30's on the GT
   circuit, with twin-turbo flat 12's that were basically a pair of 911
   motors driving a common trans, and put out some ungodly amount of
   horsepower) rejoinder to that question:

   "I'll have enough power when I can spin the tires at the end 
   of the straightaway."  (it's been used in a .sig line at some point)


   just for the record, I believe he died after hitting a wall in a 
   practice session, probably going in excess of 180mph..   R.I.P.


   bruce

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Newbie Question - Oiling the Chain
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 22:11:30 GMT

markb@wc.novell.com (Mark S. Burnham) writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.233321.19426@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Ruben
>Ortega, ruben@cs.washington.edu writes:

>>Given that this is about the same distance as a tank of gas, the chain
>>must be oiled _every_ time you fill up?

>Yes.  That's the biggest pain about chain drive motorcycles (that and 
>the gunk that gets thrown FROM the chain).  If you don't lube it 
>regularly, it won't last nearly as long.

Plain vanilla or o-ring flavor?

I lubed the stock o-ring chain (DID brand, I think) about every 300-600
miles with PJ-1 Blue, and it's gone 20,000 miles.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
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