From: tensmekl@infonode.ingr.com (Kermit Tensmeyer)
Subject: Re: Mormons are not Christians
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:19:20 GMT

In article <51Dh02Ws26Bq01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> agr00@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Anthony G Rose) writes:
>In article <1992Oct15.125043.3993@infonode.ingr.com> tensmekl@infonode.ingr.com (Kermit Tensmeyer) writes:
>>In article <242a02pz26d601@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> agr00@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Anthony G Rose) writes:
>>>In article <1992Oct14.104845.59694@cc.usu.edu> slhw4@cc.usu.edu (Jason Hunsaker) writes:

	>>  Gee, you should get a job with slick willie.

	>>  "the LDS interpretation is very valid.  At least those that tell the
	>>  truth."

	>>  And how do we know which LDS tell the truth - By the ones who agree
	>>						with _My_ interpretation

	>>  Are there any LDS that you know of that
	>>  agree with a Rose-y interpretation.		- No

	>>  Then LDS don't tell the truth.		- ?

>This is not the logic in which I am working.  You are putting it this
>way in an attempt to assasinate my character instead of facing the
>issue.  That is alright, I respect your right to do so, and I hope the
>audience out there can see your smokescreen.

	You are using another logic?  Fuzzy reasoning?  Boolean Flip/Flops?

   And as on the "debates" last night,  "this isn't about negitive
   ads, this is about issues.. Your right, negitive ads _are_ the issue"


>A long line of prophets and apostles taught things that you don't like to
>admit to, so you say that I am misinterpreting what they say.  You know
>that they did indeed teach these things and believed them.  The only way
>out of the dilemma you find yourself is to state that this is not true.
>Kermit, why won't you face the facts?

  Ok here are facts:

   The LDS church has commonly held beliefs, and those beliefs are
   what is important.

   You (and Barry and Nuzzout - Where _did_ he go?) seem to have some
   artifical version of what the LDS church should believe.  Now your
   problem, is finding people who believe the way you think that
   Mormons believe.

   Now if you stamp your foot, and scream some more, maybe more people
   will listen. Your statements and your beliefs have little if any
   to do with the issue.

   You need to understand (and this is getting fairly repetive)

   LDS are _not_ in lock-step belief. You think that this is untrue
   go back to the orignal _Doctrins of Salvations_ or any other of
   your psudo references, and re-read the other portions of the books.





>
>The inerrancy of the Bible is another discussion.  You are avoiding the
>issue altogether.  Jason stated that the LDS Scripture was full of errors
>and that the other LDS members on this discussion would back him up on it.
>All I did was ask if that was so.  Does the LDS church, as Jason has
>stated, admit that their Scriptures are full of errors as Jason tells me?


>But you are
>trying to smokescreen this position I have forced you to answer, by
>bringing in a biblical inerrancy discussion.  Why won't you tell me the
>anser to this simple question.  Is the LDS scriptures full of errors? Does
>the church admit this, or is Jason lying?  I sill here silence on this
>question

 You want grammer errors, logic errors, translations errors or what
 do you want?

 Doctrinal errors, I don't think so. And the point is that the LDS
 think of the Bible as LDS scripture.

 Part of <<your>> smokescreen is to exclude the OT and the NT from
 the scriptures that are "error-filled" but still have significant
 value.


>>>Set us straight!  Silence will tell us the Truth!

>>>-tony  (spinMeister) rose








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         Kermit Tensmeyer                         | Intergraph Corporation
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