HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: Slashed o's (o's, not zeros)?
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 07:45:40 GMT

In article <45437@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> afc@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Greg Flint) writes:
>In April 1971, my output printed on Control Data Corp model 501 printers used
>"fat" oh's and slender zero's.  On a Teletype [KSR Model 33 ?] output [yellow
>woodpulp paper off a roll] from that era, I see no difference in the example
>"10 FORMAT (...."

We also had one of these at school.  Someone removed the typewheel and cut
two notches into the zero character where the slash would go through, so you
could distinguish them.

cjl
From: kds@naucse.cse.nau.edu (Kevin Strietzel)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Computer-related auto license tags
Date: 11 Apr 92 21:13:58 GMT
Organization: Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff AZ

I used to see XYZZY on a car at one of Phoenix's Motorola sites.  Never
found out who owned it.

Kevin
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 00:14:53 -0400 
From: "Joseph M. Newcomer" <jn11+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Space Shuttle Computers

GRiD claims that the shuttle carries three (3) Grid laptops, each of which
is programmed with enough software to land the shuttle in the event that
the onboard computers fail and/or complete contact with ground is lost.
                            joe

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From: Jakob Nielsen <nielsen@bellcore.com>
Subject: Re: Slashed o's (o's, not zeros)?
Organization: Bellcore - Bell Communications Research
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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 16:58:25 GMT

A further difference between the slashed zero and the Scandinavian letter
o-with-a-slash is that the slashed zero is supposed to use a backslash
(\) and not a slash (/). Thus, even a Scandinavian reader will be able to
distinguish the zeros from letters.
Thus, \o is a zero, and /o is a {oe}.
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From: lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Slashed o's (o's, not zeros)?
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:48:46 GMT
Organization: cic

ahaley@abcl.co.uk (Andrew Haley) writes:

>>It's funny, but many English-speaking people seem to think that those
>>funny little dots, slashes and rings used by Germans and Scandinavians
>>are there just for decoration, and can be added or removed at will.
>>Nothing could be further from the truth. The horror examples are heavy
>>metal groups like Motorhead and Motley Crue, who've added some
>>German-looking dots - I suppose for the visual effect. They would be
>>less than pleased if they knew how ridiculous it sounds if you
>>actually *pronounce* those dots... :-)

>Wrong!  Motorhead's umlaut is in the right place, over the second o.
>That's how it should be pronounced, 'er', rather than 'or'.  Motley
>Crue saw it, thought it looked neat, and pinched it, unaware of the
>subtleties of pronunciation.  So there.

Sorry, Motoerhead was wrong, too. The O-Umlaut is pronounced like
the French eu. It is a long vowel. In German the name, pronounced
as written, sounds, well, affected? Gay?

Moetley Crueh is even worse.
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From: griffin@frith.egr.msu.edu (Danny Griffin)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Slashed o's (o's, not zeros)?
Date: 15 Apr 92 06:35:39 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

afc@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Greg Flint) writes:

>In my first programming class [FORTRAN IV] at Purdue in the fall of 1970,
>I was taught to slash oh's by the professor.

I was going to mention the same thing.  I learned to slash oh's at Purdue
in 1974 for FORTRAN IV.  (Professor Thomas Boyle, maybe you had him too).
Anyway, quite a few years later I was looking through some programming
books and picked up one on FORTRAN, and they were still slashing oh's (and
using those long Hollerith card coding forms). :-)

Thank you Dennis Ritchie for C!

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From: gudjm@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (D John McKenna)
Subject: Nightmare in the library
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 06:38:27 GMT

A true story:
I wandered into the library of the university I'm going to today, had a
look around, found a couple of interesting books, took them to the
counter with my card. The librarian took the card, swiped the barcode.
Terminal goes 'bleep'. 'You haven't used your card before, have you?'
'Err... no. I haven't'. Tap tap tap. Swipes card again. 'bleep'. Swipes
barcode in book #1. 'bleep'. Pause. Looks at screen. Turns to other
librarian. 'Its accepted the borrower number as a book number' 'It
shouldn't do that' 'But it has' 'You'll have to cancel that entry then'.
Tap tap tap. 'Ah. Now you've deleted his record' EEP!! Am I still
enrolled? Yes - they cancelled it before it got that far (although I
doubt the library machine could do that. Just didn't get that impression
from what they were saying)

John West
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From: ftit@engin.umich.edu (trane)
Subject: Re: slashed characters
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 05:39:37 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <UdvGxKi00Vsa0=5d4b@andrew.cmu.edu> "Joseph M. Newcomer" <jn11+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
|Besides funny codes for U and V, don't forget the dash thru the Z to 
|distinguish it from the 2.  

Hey, I still do that when there's any possibility of confusion (say,
when doing Cartesian coordinates).  Does that mean I'm an old-timer?
I'll be 21 in 346 days and counting :-).

|                            joe
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From: wcstom@alfred.carleton.ca (Tom Hamill)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,rec.arts.sf.written,comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: WAR GAMES II, or How I Learned To Start Worrying And Hate The Bomb
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:54:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: cunews.1992Apr10.175439.16877
Followup-To: alt.folklore.computers,rec.arts.sf.written,comp.unix.sysv386
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada

In article <41768834@bfmny0.BFM.COM> tneff@bfmny0.bfm.com (Tom Neff) writes:

>Annex Canada now!  We need the room,    \)      Tom Neff
>    and who's going to stop us.         (\      tneff@bfmny0.BFM.COM
>
Please do!  I'm sure President Bush couldn't do any worse with the
Canadian economy than our beloved Prime Minister has already done.
And then we wouldn't have the hassle crossing the US border anymore,
our beer and liquour would cost one third the price, our tobacco
products would cost one fifth what we pay now, and we'd get to swagger
and act like the saviours of the human species when we go to other 
foreign countries.

---tom

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From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Mel: Fact or Fiction?
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:42:25 GMT
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Apr6.131911.15962@sctc.com> smith@sctc.com (Rick Smith) writes:
>>Eric Raymond writes:
>
>>>... I've spoken with him.  Mel was a real person.  I think Ed
>>>told me that the story too place in 1964, but I'm not sure of that.
>
>And lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
>
>>1964 doesn't seem real to date the drum-memory machines.  Perhaps the story
>>starts in 1964 and flashs back for most of its time-line.  Any company making
>>non-core memory machines by then was already dead or dying.
>
>I believe IBM was still pushing 650s in 1960; I have some PR material
>from back then. The Bendix and Librascope machines would still have been
>less than 10 years old in '64.
>
>The machine was almost certainly not brand-new in '64. On the other
>hand, few companies could afford to scrap a 5 year old machine that
>they spent $200,000 on if they could get sort of use out of it.
>Game programs like blackjack seem a reasonable chore to be assigned
>to an otherwise obsolete machine.
>
>Rick.
>smith@sctc.com           arden hills, minnesota

The story time-line (perhaps a flashback) is about the specific introduction
of a new model of the machine.  Clearly, they are talking about a different
drum memory, because Mel's expertise was apparently finely-tuned on the
specifics of the architecture.  The story relates the company's attempt to
change the already existing demo program that played blackjack at that time.  
It was the hit of the show more than once because it was known to be fast,
which is quite a feat for a drum-memory-based machine.  The program's
purpose was to be a sales attractant at trade shows, not something for a
customer to do with an old machine which is to be otherwise thrown out.
It would seem obvious also that the games isn't available to customers.  It 
even isn't available to the company, since Mel's version that cheats is the
only one available after an earlier version didn't cheat, yet is apparently
no longer available.  The implication is that Mel maintains the only copy
of the program itself.  Also, it might be inferred that the program gets
patched by hand into each and every machine; clearly the program's ability
to run is on a "hand-to-mouth" basis.

Demos are often produced under marginal circumstances.  Without Mel, there
was no demo.  This is obviously true, or else the company would have used
the former version that never cheated as opposed to the one they requested
which always cheated instead of selectively so.  From a management
perspective, blame Mel's boss for not maintaining "version control" :-).

In any case, can someone date the year that core-memory machines made
NEW computers based on drum memory be passe?

cjl
From: lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Confirmation of :toto: entry in jargon298
Date: 5 Apr 92 10:11:03 GMT
Organization: cic

billaud@geocub.UUCP (Michel BILLAUD) writes:

>In article <UdoXSxa00Vp3EUM_By@andrew.cmu.edu> jf41+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jonathan R. Ferro) writes:
>>In jargon298.ascii:
>>>
>>>:toto: /toh'toh/ n. This is reported to be the default scratch
>>>   file name among French-speaking programmers --- in other words, a

>A true story: students had to write their name on a paper to 
>indicate which programming project they  chosed. One day a
>student came to complained that his name was systematically crossed out
>from the list by the teacher. He was really named Toto !

Reminds me about the Japanese CS professor everybody wants
abolished. His name is, of course, Goto!

This is for real, now for the joke:

A programmer was let free from a murder case, because
witnesses said he could never have uttered the words
someone overheard the murderer say when he pushed
the victim out the window: "Goto hell!"
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From: john_newman@qmcc.curtin.edu.au (John Newman)
Subject: Re: Unit Record Equipment
Keywords: KL10 Bendix G15
Organization: Computing Centre, Curtin University, Perth, Western Australia
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 02:31:32 GMT

In article  zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au 
writes: (re Perth's museum pieces)
>And while we are in this fair city... A friend of mine has a LEO tape drive
>working on his 11/73. Talk about contrasts... Not exactily unit record I
>know, but if you have flakey 7 track tapes that you MUST get the data off,
>It help a LOT to be able to tune density and slice levels as you go.

>It helps even more if you done get 'tax' jobs like that to start with.

>~Paul

>PS I hope you are looking after the KL-10 front end as well John.


The KL-10 is back in the computer room. No, not as emergency backup,
but because we are running out of office space. 
The original commissioning plaque, "Opened by the honourable
R I Viner MP etc..", has been attached to the top.
Alas, we don't get grand openings anymore - a small box stuffed
under a desk isn't impressive enough for our average politician.

John D
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From: peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: me vs. vi survey *please read*
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:50:47 GMT

In article <1992Mar25.175914.4363@eff.org> hshubs@eff.org (Howard Shubs) writes:
> Aaah...  yer all clueless!  The best editor in existance is LSE, or
> EVE if you can't get LSE.

Wimps. Namby-pamby wannabe hackers. Real hackers are prepared to use a noisy
300 baud connection, and keep their hand in on qed, ed, edi, and teco.

While I'm on the subject...

Real hackers think real cyberpunks are a bunch of posers who couldn't write
good code if you gave them their own Cray, so why waste fancy editors on them?
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From: jlee@smylex.UUCP (Jeff Lee)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: You know you've been in hack mode too long when...
Date: 13 Apr 92 05:09:09 GMT
Organization: Shipbrook Software  (Newington, CT)

In article <viking.703041768@vincent1.iastate.edu>, viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
> 
>                          You've been in hack mode too long when you
> are awakened by a rather randy female (assuming you are male, please
> feel free to reverse genders if applicable) and all you can think of,
> in that muddied half-conscious state before becoming fully awake, is
> something having to do with male and female serial connectors and
> how the baud rates have to be synchronized.

Or, in a similar situation after programming a Mac, using mental pull-down 
menus to control one's responses to said randy female (or whatever)...

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From: damon@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. Damon Kelly; ACS (RJE))
Subject: Re: Space Shuttle Computers
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 09:00:10 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.145554.2455@otago.ac.nz> stanger@otago.ac.nz
(Nigel Stanger) brings fourth from his mind the recurrent nightmare of
a million NASA mission specialists, planners, and administrators:

>If 2 [shuttle computers] come up with one answer and the other 2 come
>up with another, the fifth computer's answer is used as a
>"casting vote" to resolve the standoff. Of course, this then begs
>the question, what happens if the fifth computer comes up with a
>completely different answer from the other four? :)
>

While the computers spend precious milliseconds arguing over
who was booted up on the wrong side of the DC power supply that
morning, the shuttle stops and immediately drops to the earth.

Fortunately, the shuttle's Stoic and Fearless Captain, Duke Rock,
along with his Daring-Do, Gung-Ho Pilot, Biff Mendelson, find a way to
guide the 55,000-ton metal-and-glass paperweight through the
atmospheric hell of our beloved planet to a safe (yet rocky) landing
on a muddy rural cow-path near Palookaville, Montana.

The astronauts, shortly after recovering from this "ordeal," become
media stars.  They rival Wilt Chamberlain's "most women scored"
record, write a few books, and collect millions upon millions of
dollars in advertisement, TV and movie royalties.

Eventually, they die.  Old and rich.


			       THE END.

-d
From: fstuart@eng.auburn.edu (Frank Stuart)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: chip-on-chip technology
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:29:02 GMT
Organization: Auburn University Engineering

In article <id.D1PO.B0K@ferranti.com> peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>In article <1223@eouk15.abcl.co.uk> pcockere@abcl.co.uk (Pete Cockerell) writes:
>> #define
>
>> is pronounced `pound-define' (not `hash-define')
>
>No, it's pronounced `number-define'. :->

Actually, it's pronounced "Octothorpe-define"   :>>


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Subject: Re: You know you've been in hack mode too long when...
From: geoff@satori.equinox.gen.nz (Geoff McCaughan)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 21:28:31   M
Organization: The Equinox Network CHCH NZ (Node SATORI)

jlee@smylex.UUCP (Jeff Lee) writes:

> Or, in a similar situation after programming a Mac, using mental pull-down 
> menus to control one's responses to said randy female (or whatever)...

Nahhh, pop-up menus are *much* more fun! 8-)

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From: bmw@isgtec.com (Bruce M. Walker)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Assembler Formats (was: CS Hackers?)
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:20:42 GMT
Organization: ISG Technologies Inc., Mississauga Ontario

In article <1212@lysator.liu.se> bellman@lysator.liu.se (Thomas Bellman) writes:
> At the dept of EE at this university, they have developed a small
> 68008-based computer to use in some courses. [...]  They also developed a
> small assembler.  It's quite primitive.  It doesn't support labels.
> But you still have to put at least one space before the opcode, so it
> will know that you aren't writing a label.  Sigh...

I must argue with your terminology, specifically your use of the word
"developed" in the context of this "assembler".  I fail to see how this
could have been *developed*.

It sounds more like something was allowed to *decay* to produce this.

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From: jwbirdsa@amc.com (James Birdsall)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Slashed o's (o's, not zeros)?
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:31:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Applied Microsystems, Redmond, WA

In article <1992Apr15.161003.24776@adobe.com> swirsky@adobe.com (Robert Swirsky) writes:
>I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the little dot that IBM liked to put in
>the Zeroes on some of its 3270s (and, later, display adapters for the
>IBM PC.) Maybe this is to avoid confusion with languages that have a 
>slashed O character.

   The IBM Proprinter has a DIP switch which controls whether it slashes
zeros or not. One of the first things I did after getting it was to turn on
the slashes.

   How about a different question: how many of us slash zeroes when we
write them? I do, unless I think it's going to be read by non-computer
types who might not recognize slashed zeroes.

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From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Why Grey? Are computer unhappy objects?
Date: 11 Apr 92 23:18:02 GMT
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

azog@thoth.rent.com (Billy D'Augustine) writes:

>You know, Ive been following this thread for some time now, but so far
>I havent seen a explanation as to _why_ computers are mostly grey?

It's a nice neutral color, goes well with anything.  And you don't
have to waste effort making and marketing different colors.  Can you
imagine if CompUSA or other stores had to stock different colors of
all the different computers as well?
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 23:55:01 -0400 
From: "Joseph M. Newcomer" <jn11+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Space Shuttle Computers

Perhaps no one remembers, but the first launch was aborted when there was
a timing glitch in the software that caused one of the computers to disagree
with the others.  It turns out that four of the computers were programmed
by someone other than IBM (I forget who), using rather formal specification
methods.  The fifth was programmed by IBM using "traditional" software
construction methods (read "ad hoc kludges").  Guess which one caused
the problem...
                                joe

Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 04:17:46 -0400 
From: "Joseph M. Newcomer" <jn11+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: What's a cover?

>Real hackers usually have their machines undecorated with all
>covers removed for easier access and better ventilation (though
>i know a machine which wouldn't work without covers due to heating
>problems! PC is not a case, though).

Mine are on a shelf designed for special ball-bearing rollers so I can just
roll them out to switch cards.  I bought the second set of rollers on Monday
morning, and Monday evening I went in for open-heart surgery...that was 2.5
years ago and the slides are still on the floor beside the computer rack...
                                joe
(which reminds me, I have a 1 hour stand-up open-heart-surgery comedy
routine...I'd post it, but alt.humor.heart-surgery doesn't exist...any
suggestions?)

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