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Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #238
Date: 2 Oct 92 22:18:19 GMT
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Info-Mac Digest             Fri,  2 Oct 92       Volume 10 : Issue 238

Today's Topics:

      Another 13" monitor problem
      AppleTalk Internet Router
      Bad Sony drives in SE, SE/30, II, IIx, IIcx/IIci, IIfx
      Central Point's e-mail address
      ChemEdit Problem...
      Connecting to remote mac
      CopyDoubler bug
      dead mouse - just wondering
      DesktopTextures Summary
      DiskDoubler 3.7.7/GateKeeper
      DiskDoubler3.7.7/Gatekeeper Problem (A)
      DOS.INIT 1.2 conflicts with Apple File Exchange
      Eudora 1.3b89 released
      Fat Files
      Fat Fujitsu Files (A) (2 msgs)
      File: "INFO-MAC MAIL" being sent to you
      Font Request
      Half a (Half an answer for you) for you:
      HyperCard open file calls (A)
      Incredibly Noisy HDI Hard Drive (C)
      info-mac
      Info-Mac Digest V10 #236 (2 msgs)
      Info-Mac Digest V10 #237
      Looking for a disk exerciser
      Looking for a disk exerciser (A)
      making labels
      MaxAlleZoom under S.7 ?
      Modem Characteristics/control file for AppleTalk Remote?
      Morph Problems
      Movies on Silicon Graphics workstations
      Need network software on Mac to connect UNIX's NFS
      Now Utilities 4  - 2 conflicts (C)
      NuBus Board & Dat
      PB 145 & 170
      Powerbook 145's to remain, others to come and go
      Quadra 900 Power Supply Problems
      reverse the order..
      Sound (Yes, Virginia, another stupid FAQ) how?
      StuffIt DeLuxe Translators wanted
      SuperDrive Upgrade problem resolved.
      Synchronizing printing and login names
      System 7.1 - check out the windows... (C)
      TaxCut
      Tektronix terminal emulator
      Telecommunications and 128K Mac
      THINK C problem
      timeout

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Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 18:01:28 PDT
From: i6bk@odin.cc.pdx.edu (Brian Korver)
Subject: Another 13" monitor problem

> I seem to be having a different problem with my 13" RGB monitor than the
> one that is currently being discussed. After the monitor has been on for
> a while (15-20 minutes) the image on the screen begins to shake. This
> phenomenon happens at seemingly random times thereafter. Is this related
> to the other problem? Has anyone else had this problem?

I have this exact same problem.  BTW, my monitor falls within the serial
number range of the "bad" monitors.  I have basically the same configuration
except that I have a IIsi.  Hmmmm.  Anyone have any ideas?

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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 10:16:36 CDT
From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez)
Subject: AppleTalk Internet Router

AppleTalk Internet Router
In Info-Mac Digest #237, Stefan Enkner <enkner@grz08u.unileoben.ac.at>
writes:

>The AT Internet Router cannot do IP/TCP routing, never did never will do!
>You have to use a Hardware Router.

Apple Internet Router 3.0 (currently in beta test) will route TCP/IP. It
should be shipping soon.

David Gutierrez
Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu

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Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 12:09:58 EDT
From: "Thomas E. Palm, Computer Lab Asst." <palm@hal.hahnemann.edu>
Subject: Bad Sony drives in SE, SE/30, II, IIx, IIcx/IIci, IIfx

	I've seen a bunch of questions regarding the bad Sony drives. I got
the following list from my undergrad college some time ago and I thought you
all could use it.
	These numbers are for 40MB drives only and as Bill Moynihan stated,
all 20MB drives with model number SRD2020 are covered.

				  -Tom

Date 40MB drive must
  be received by          From Serial #                    To Serial #
 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   09/30/91                SA833xxxxRx                     SA129xxxxR9
   12/31/91                SA840xxxxRx                     SA129xxxxR9
   03/31/92                SA901xxxxRx                     SA129xxxxR9
   06/30/92                SA914xxxxRx                     SA129xxxxR9
   09/30/92                SA927xxxxRx                     SA129xxxxR9
   12/31/92                SA940xxxxRx                     SA129xxxxR9
   03/31/93                SA001xxxxRx                     SA129xxxxR9
   06/30/93                SA014xxxxRx                     SA129xxxxR9
   08/15/93                SA027xxxxRx                     SA129xxxxR9

model number: SRD2040

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Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 07:37:33 EDT
From: Pete Tamas <GNOME%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Central Point's e-mail address

Anyone know Central Point's e-mail address? All I found in the
MacTools 2 manual was how to get on the forum (Go CentralPoint,
or something similar) but I do not have a Central Point Account.
Thanks, Pete
Gnome@TempleVM.bitnet, Temple Univ, Philadelphia(betw New York & Wash DC)

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Date: Fri,  2 Oct 1992 17:25:11 +0000
From: Elliot Bennett <Elliot.Bennett@europa.rs.kp.dlr.de>
Subject: ChemEdit Problem...

Date    10/2/92
Subject ChemEdit Problem...
From    Elliot Bennett
To      Info- mac

 Subject   ChemEdit Problem...
I just submitted ChemEdit 1.0 to the net but I've discovered a problem.
Although designed for small b/w monitors, it crashes on a PowerBook 100 when
windows are opened or closed (CHK error).  The strange thing is that I can't
understand why: in the Info HC stack that came with it, besides stating that
it is, in fact, Freeware [I wasn't sure when I got it because it doesn't
explicitly say that in the About ChemEdit dialog box...], it says that it was
specifically designed for and tested on the Mac Plus, SE, and SE-30 (my PB100
is essentially an SE at 16MHz).

Anyway, if anyone should have contact to the authors (N.A.B. Gray and W.D.
Wilbowo at the Dept. of Computing Science, University of Wollongong, NSW,
Australia), perhaps they could be persuaded to make a more compatible
version..
. [btw, I tried running it after rebooting with all extensions off {shift key
down on boot} to no avail- it DOES run flawlessly on my Quadra 700 though...-
go figure it out...]

Any hints and/or suggestions of how to reach them electronically would be most
appreciated...

Elliot Bennett
elliot@europa.rs.kp.dlr.de

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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 11:14 EDT
From: RICH FRIEDMAN <FRIEDMAN@mbcl.rutgers.edu>
Subject: Connecting to remote mac

I would like to be able to access files from my mac at home when I am
working at my office.  I know I can connect to my office network via a net
modem and to my office mac from home if I use System 7's file sharing and
appleshare.  Can I do the same thing in reverse?  Inother words can I use the
modem in my office to call my mac at home and connect to it using File Share.
Is there some software (ie., Apple Romote Access or some free/shareware
program
which I need?

BTW I have a Zoom Technologies modem (2400/9600 send fax).

Thanks
-Rich
Friedman@mbcl.rutgers.edu

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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 12:19:38 -0400
From: tonyh@msc2.msc.cornell.edu (Tony Huang)
Subject: CopyDoubler bug

>From Martin Jasoo:
>I have noticed a very annoying feature of CopyDoubler demo: When I attempt
>to copy a compressed document from a hard disk to a floppy that is almost
>full (less than 10k left after copying), I get an error message stating
>that the disk is full. This happends with the option "expand files when
>copying" unchecked for any type of drive. To successfully copy the file, I
>have to deactivate the copy mode of CopyDoubler and use the "Copy To"
>command of the DiskDoubler menu.
>It could be that CopyDoubler creates a temporary file on the destination
>disk that uses up the space but whatever the reason, it is very
>inconvenient.

This is a bug with CopyDoubler (at least in the demo version). I've noticed
the same problem on a number of occations. It only occurs when copying to
a floppy AND for certain files. I initially thought the problem was floppy
disk fragmentation since presumably CopyDoubler copies a bigger chunk of
file at a time than the Finder. As it turns out, this problem exists even
when I tried to copy 800K file (compressed with StuffIt 3.0) to a freshly
formatted 1.4M diskette. Very strangely, I had no problem copying a LARGER
940K file (also compressed with StuffIt 3.0) to the same floppy!

I've talked to a number of tech-suppport people at Fifth Generation (the
parent company of Salient) and they had no idea. They also insisted that
they've not heard similar problem with the comercial version (one of them
thought the problem could be with the demo version).

I suggest that you call Fifth Generation (800-666-2904) and tell them about
it if any of you notice the same problem and especailly if under different
conditions.

I haven't upgraded to AutoDoubler 2.0 because I wanted to try out the
driver level comprssion program Times Two which Golden Triangle keeps
postponing the final release date (their new shipping date is Oct. 20).
If Golden Triangle delivers what they promised (a big if at this point),
Time Two should have fewer compatibility problem, more transparent
operation and possibly faster decompression. I hope Salient fixes this
bug in CopyDoubler because it could be my only incentive to upgrade to
AD 2.0.

Tony
(msc.cornell.edu)

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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 10:44:45 PDT
From: dplatt@ntg.com (Dave Platt)
Subject: dead mouse - just wondering

> The mouse on our 1 1/2 year old SI quit today. It seems like the little
switch
> that the clicker hits was the problem. (I said seems.) My wife ran off to
the
> nearest MAC dealer. (Drove actually.) Cost about $80.00 exchange for a new
> one.
>
> The new one actually has a much better feel. But I am wondering if that is
> about par for the coarse (grin) or if there is a simple trick I should have
> known to fix it. (The pointer would move but the clicker wouldn't click.)
Just
> wondering if anyone has any insight. Using the MAC without a mouse is really
> tough so that is like an emergency.

The Mac mice I've seen use a fairly "vanilla" sort of microswitch for the
button.  At least, the physical size, and placement of the microswitch
actuator itself are standard for this sort of microswitch.

The switch in my five-year-old Mac II mouse became intermittent recently,
so I opened it up.  The switch used by Apple (in that mouse, at least) is
made by Omron.  Its most unusual feature is that the electrical contacts
are thin posts, which go through holes in the mouse PC board and are
soldered to the PC-board traces... most microswitches have wider sheet-metal
"quick connect" connectors.

As far as I know, Apple does not sell the Omron switch separately, and it's
not easy to get this specific model on the open market.

I dug through my box of spare switches, and came up with a few Cherry
microswitches of the correct size and actuator-placement.  The ones I
had on hand are all of a heavier-duty rating than the original Omrom
switch, and have a somewhat stiffer and more definite "click".  They also
have sheet-metal push-on connectors, which were much too wide to go through
the small holes in the mouse PC board once I removed the dead switch.

So... I got out my Dremel and my diagonal cutters, nipped off half of each
connector, and ground down the remaining portion of the connector to form
a thin post of roughly the same size as the connector-posts on the Omron
switch.  Due to the construction of the original Cherry contacts (sheet metal
with a hole drilled in the center) these posts had to be slightly off-center
>From the switch.  When I mounted the switch on the PC board, it was located
slightly further "back" in the switch body (maybe 1/8"), so I slanted
it slightly "forwards" when I soldered it into place so that the actuator
was in the same location as the Omron's had been.  I reassembled the mouse and
tested it.  It works fine - the new switch requires a bit more pressure
than the old one but has a more positive CLICK when it actuates.

Net cost - about 1/2 hour of puttering, plus the cost of the switch
(effectively zero in my case, as it came out of a big batch of surplus
switches I bought for almost nothing last year and have already recovered
the value from).

Looking through my Digi-Key catalog, I see some switches which might be
drop-in replacements for the Omron:  Cherry E61-10A (5 ampere, solder
connector, 90-gram operating force, order #CH104-ND, $2.92) and E62-10A
(10 ampere, solder connector, 212-gram operating force, order #CH110-ND,
$2.92).  THe E61-10A is probably very similar to the one I used, but would
not (I think) need to have its connectors ground down.

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Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 19:46:44 edt
From: "Paco Belle (Spice, Reid)" <SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU>
Subject: DesktopTextures Summary

Thanks to all who answered my post on the application DeskTop Textures 2.0
found in the Sumex-Aim Info-mac archives.  The results were mixed as 4 people
reported having had problems.  Three said that they had not had any problems.
One person asked if I was using Cursor Animator (I'm not) because a rumor had
circulated that there was a fatal conflict between the two.

Those who didn't like the program were *very* clear in their dislike; one
person even referred to it as "Desktop Trash."  I'm not sure exactly what it
was that trashed *my* system (though I still suspect DT20) but whatever it was
really did it well.  More than half of my control panels identify themselves
as extensions for the "Monitors" control panel (including the Monitors CP
itself).... oh well.

Thanks again to all who responded.

Reid Spice
SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU

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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 09:14:15 -0800
From: Jerry Wilcox <iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu>
Subject: DiskDoubler 3.7.7/GateKeeper

>From Info-Mac #237:

I just got the latest upgrade for Disk Doubler, 3.7.7, and after installing
it, Gatekeeper 1.2.6 went nuts!  Basically, it said a lot of the control
panels and a few of the applications were trying to modify their own code
resources.  I ran a virus check with Disinfectant, and found nothing.  I
just decided to let all those items modify their own resources, and nothing
has seemed to happen, yet...

<remainder of post deleted>
 ---------------------

Yes, I've seen this problem and so have several other people. I reported it
to Chris Johnson, author of Gatekeeper, who replied very promptly. The
problem is with something DiskDoubler is doing itself, and not with the
extensions, etc. This reminds me of problems we had with the first versions
of DiskDoubler and AutoDoubler. At that time, the good folks at Salient
allowed as to the best course of action was to not run GateKeeper. It
appears that the attitude hasn't changed with the transfer to Fifth
Generation Systems -- the authors steadfastly refuse to test with
freely-available virus detection software.

Chris is working on a fix within GateKeeper (it isn't really his problem,
but he'll have to work around it, as usual). In the meantime, if you
haven't yet upgraded to AutoDoubler 2.0, you can always drop back to DD
3.7.6, which doesn't have this problem.

Perhaps while I'm here, I'll ask if anyone who has installed 3.7.7 has
noticed really strange hard-drive activity since the installation. An
example of what I mean is upon double-clicking to open the System Folder, I
get the watch cursor and about 7 or 8 seconds of *furious* disk activity,
then the folder opens. Or, I'll be sitting and reading a document and I get
the watch cursor and another several second of furious disk activity,
during which I can't do anything else. This is *not* AD scanning for files
to be compressed, as I have the idle time set to 10 minutes, I'm not
getting the "AD" cursor, and AD's scan/compress cycle can be interrrupted
simply by moving the mouse. Besides, the problem goes away if I turn off
the *DiskDoubler* extension.

--Jerry Wilcox iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu

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Date: 01 Oct 1992 23:25:55 -0500 (CDT)
From: williams@sunny.mdh.umn.edu (      Allan Williams  )
Subject: DiskDoubler3.7.7/Gatekeeper Problem (A)

In Digest # 237, Brian Saunders writes:
>I just got the latest upgrade for Disk Doubler, 3.7.7, and after installing
>it, Gatekeeper 1.2.6 went nuts!  Basically, it said a lot of the control
>panels and a few of the applications were trying to modify their own code
>resources.  I ran a virus check with Disinfectant, and found nothing.  I
>just decided to let all those items modify their own resources, and nothing
>has seemed to happen, yet...

I experienced the same problems with the DD 3.7.7. patch and
Gatekeeper1.2.6 and posted a note to Salient's excellent technical
support forum on America Online.  Before too many others pull
their hair out, trying to figure out this conflict, here is Salient's
response posted on 10/01/92:

     Subj:  DD, CopyDoubler, and GateKeeper       92-10-01 15:03:42 EDT
     From:  Salient

     The latest versions of DiskDoubler and CopyDoubler (as well as
     AutoDoubler 2.0) employ Fifth Generation's resource
     compression technology which allows the compression of
     applications, INIT's and Control Panels.  We want to make sure
     that a resource compressed application or INIT will run properly
     and have to make a RsrcMapEntry() call inside of one of our
     patches to accomplish this.  This is the call that GateKeeper finds
     to be "suspicious", which is a subjective decision on GateKeeper's
     part.  We use this call which Apple has provided for it's intended
     purpose, namely to find to offset of a resource's entry in the
     resource map.  This is a read-only operation and makes no
     modification to the file whatsoever.  While it is true that a virus
     might make the same call for malicious purposes, the call does
     have legitimate uses and there are several ways viruses can infect
     files.  I understand that Chris Johnson has made modifications to
     GateKeeper to support AD in the past and we appreciate this, but
     then again I've made a few changes to AD to specifically support
     GateKeeper as well.  This time I think the ball is in his court
     because we're not a virus and GateKeeper seems to think we are.

     Sincerely,

     Dave Heller
     CopyDoubler/AutoDoubler Author
     Fifth Generation Systems, Inc.


I haven't tried appending GateKeeper's permission list to allow
these actions, but that would seem to be one possible stopgap
solution.
AL WILLIAMS

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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:19:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: CANFIELDRA@VTCC1.CC.VT.EDU (Bob Canfield)
Subject: DOS.INIT 1.2 conflicts with Apple File Exchange

  I tried the file uploaded as dos-cp-12.hqx. It does allow DOS
  disks to be mounted on the desktop as advertised. However, when I
  tried to use Apple File Exchange to translate a file, it bombed.

  If anyone knows how to contact the mysterious author or
  "Strikersware, Inc" I'll report the bug.

  Bob Canfield, Internet: canfieldra@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu

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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 17:00 EDT
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <needje@msen.com>
Subject: Eudora 1.3b89 released

Steve Dorner posted this note today on comp.sys.mac.comm:

>In article <sdorner-021092121559@dorner.slip.uiuc.edu> Steven Dorner,
sdorner@qualcomm.com writes:
>>Eudora 1.3b89 is now available for anonymous ftp from ftp.qualcomm.com,
>>mac/eudora/beta subdirectory.  It has significant improvements over 1.3b46.
>>
>>Please read the README.first file before using 1.3b89.
>>
>>If you need a list of the files available, send mail to
>>eudora-info@qualcomm.com.

Jeff Needleman  <needje@msen.com>

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Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:55:17 -0800
From: Scott Allen Gruby <sgruby@jarthur.Claremont.EDU>
Subject: Fat Files

In response to horton@wente.llnl.gov (Robert Horton) question about why
files became so large, here is the explanation presented in the manual that
came with my APS hard drive. This is from the documentation:

"For eveyr file created on a partition volume, there is an amount of data
known as the allocation clump size. The allocation clump size is the
minimum amount of space that the file will grow by. For instance, if a file
is 1 byte in size, and the allocation clump size is 8192 bytes, then the 1
byte file will occupy 8192 bytes of space on the partition volume. This is
8192 times the amount it actually needs. ...

The larger the partition volume, the larger the allocation block size for
that partition. ...Every 32 MB in size that the partition increases, the
allocation block size for that partition will increase 0.5 MB. ..."

Your drive probably has a 512 MB partition because the allocation block
size is 8.0 KB for that size drive.

I hope this explains your question.

Thanks.

Scott Gruby
sgruby@jarthur.claremont.edu

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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 08:30:52 -0800
From: Mike_Dustan@sfu.ca
Subject: Fat Fujitsu Files (A)

Robert Horton writes about files expanding enormously when he copies them
to his 520MB drive...

Robert, the problem is related to the size of your hard drive. On any
drive, from a floppy to a gigabyte monster, file space is allocated in
blocks. A bitmap at the beginning of the volume marks which blocks are
used. To prevent this map from getting too enormous, unwieldy and slow,
they simply make bigger but fewer file blocks. On your floppy the block
size is 1K; on your Fujitsu, it's 8K. Changing this is very messy; you risk
performance, reliability and all those other good things we've come to know
and love about computers.

Cheers
Mike Dustan, Computing Services, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, BC Canada

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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 12:41:06 -0400
From: tonyh@msc2.msc.cornell.edu (Tony Huang)
Subject: Fat Fujitsu files (A)

>From Robert Horton:
>   Recently, when copying a large number of small files from a floppy to my
>hard drive, I found that the total size of the files had inflated
>about eightfold. A quick look at the file size revealed the reason:
>all files on my hard disk (including ones created months ago) have sizes
>on disk which are multiples of 8K bytes! On the floppy, all files
>sizes were multiples of 1K byte, hence the inflation.
>   So... what's going on here? My Mac is a Quadra 900, using a 520 MB
>Fujitsu hard drive, and uses the disk driver provided
>by the FWB Hammer Toolkit. Has anybody else seen a similar problem?
>Where do I go to redefine the minimum size of a file on my hard disk?

The problem is the formatting software, by default, selected a large sector
size (in this case 8K). Formatting softwares usualy chooses larger sector
sizes for bigger drives for performance reasons. If you store lots of small
files and wish to gain addition disk space, you could choose a smaller
sector size (3-5K) if your software allows it (you probably have to do a
manual or customized setup).

Tony
(msc.cornell.edu)

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Subject: Mac terminal program that will do IRC
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 20:54:56 CDT

I am looking for a terminal program for the Mac, that will do the usual
internet functions, and also IRC (Internet Relay Chat).  I am currently using
Microsoft WORKS in the telecommunications mode, and I am getting by.  When
I see the IRC dialogue screen, all of the accumulated verbage immediately
goes off the screen. I can capture it, but I want to be able to see it so
I can respond.

Any of you Mac types, ever do IRC's??  If so, please fill me in on what you
are using.  Thanks much :-)

Bob Kelly
Ames, Iowa

rokelly@iastate.edu

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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 10:37:53 EDT
From: Spencer_Marks@mathworks.com (Spencer Marks)
Subject: Font Request

		      Font Request
I was hoping that this request could make it into Mac Digest even thought I
don't have direct access to  postnews.

I am looking for a specific font and was wondering if anyone had either a
shareware or freeware version of it. Unfortunately, I don't know the name of
the font, but it is easy to describe. It is a typical science fiction face
that is supposed to look like some sort of computer termainal output. It has
striaght boxy lines that get thick in funny places.  The TV series Space
1999 used this font for the title as do many science fiction related stories
and movies. I believe I have seen versions of this font called HAM, FUTURE (
not Futura ) and Mos Eisley.
If anyone could post what they think I am talking to summex or better yet
send it directly to me at spencer@mathworks.com I'd really appreciate it.
Just a bitmap would be OK, but if a PostScript version exists that would be
great. Or if anyone knows of a good font FTP site I'd appreciate that info
too.

Thanks,

Spencer

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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 08:58:00 GMT
From: knight@swfmc1.SINet.SLB.COM (Francis Knight, SIEM UK Felixstowe)
Subject: Half a (Half an answer for you) for you:

pmb1@tower.york.ac.uk (Mike Brudenell) says:

>Half an answer for you:
...
>[Yeuch!  Anyone got a drag-and-drop program that, as a result of dragging a
>selection of files onto it, manes a text file of names suitable for use
>with lpr?

I say:

Half an answer for you:

It's easy to forget that Finder 7.0 can copy the names of multiple selected
files, in just the format you want, to the clipboard. A DA editor or even
TeachText will launch reasonably quickly to write this information to a
file.

Francis K.

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Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:11:21 PDT
From: Kee Nethery <nethery@parc.xerox.com>
Subject: HyperCard open file calls (A)

If you implement the standard minimum Apple Events into your app, you can
have HyperCard send Apple Events and do quite a bit of manipulation.

Kee
Nethery@parc.xerox.com

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Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 23:22:25 EDT
From: Phil Calvert <PNCSPPC@ccvax1.cc.ncsu.edu>
Subject: Incredibly Noisy HDI Hard Drive (C)

Here an old post I archived but never got around to responding to.  I think
it's worth repeating for those who may be shopping for a hard drive.  My
own experience is appended to the bottom:

 -------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 91 11:03:33 EST From: Jeff Kline
<EGKLINE%INDST.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: Summary: HDI-Hard Drives: Opinions

Hi netters, Well a long time ago I asked  couple of questions on the net, I
wanted to know about Hard Drives International and Disk Manager Mac
software. I have submitted a report of the responses to my request. -----

   ==============================================================
   Date:         Thu, 21 Nov 91 21:30:39 PLT
   From:         Paul Brians <BRIANS@WSUVM1.CSC.WSU.EDU
   Subject:      Hard Drives International
   To:           EGKLINE@INDST.BITNET

   I have a PowerDrive 105 which I have been pretty happy with.  Great
   price, of course.  I recently had occasion to phone HDI for help and

   [part of message deleted]

   The second complaint: the thing is NOISY.  Look at the MacUser ratings.
   This is one of the noisiest around.  I really regret not getting a
   quieter drive.  And don't count on the new mechanism being quieter, it's
   usually the fan that's the culprit, not the drive itself.  Many people
   don't mind a lot of whirring and hissing, but if you do you won't like
   this one.  I have a IISI with an internal Apple hard drive, and I
   haven't noticed any speed problems.  A friend of mine has the identical
   drive, but INTERNAL, and he says its very quiet.  Gotta be that fan.

   ===============================================================

I also have an external 105 Mb drive from HDI.  The thing is unbelievably
noisy.  This is probably a case of false advertising since their ads in
MacWorld and MacUser state "whisper quiet" fans.

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Date: 02 Oct 1992 12:41:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: MCA93ISA11@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU
Subject: info-mac

looking for the best price for Q-700 to 900. anybody have any idea .where and
how i could get it .please tell me .
				thank mca93isa11 wichaa

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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 12:49:15 -0700
From: moynihan@venice.sedd.trw.com (Bill Moynihan)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #236

In article <9209302322.AA21884@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU> you write:
>
>Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:41:44 -0400 (EDT)
>From: David James Foremsky <df1y+@andrew.cmu.edu>
>Subject: Another 13" monitor problem
>
>I seem to be having a different problem with my 13" RGB monitor than the
>one that is currently being discussed. After the monitor has been on for
>a while (15-20 minutes) the image on the screen begins to shake. This
>phenomenon happens at seemingly random times thereafter. Is this related
>to the other problem? Has anyone else had this problem?
>
>13" monitor, LC 4/80, Stylewriter, System 7.0.1, tuned to latest tune-up.
>
>Thanks,
>dave foremsky
>
Dave,

There are two problems with the LC and the 13" Hi-Res RGB
monitor. Both have to do with the Rev.A monitor. To tell a Rev.A
monitor you need to open the case and check to see if the HV
capacitor is mounted on the EMI screen at the bottom. If the HV
capacitor is on the main logic board it is a Rev.B. For a quick
check, look to see if the cutoff adjustment is accessable from
the back. If it is it's a "newer" model but not necessarily a
Rev.B.

Problem 1: A timing difference between the Rev.A monitor and a
LC causes the width of the image area to be reduced by 3/16 of
an inch and is corrected by adjusting the horizontal size. There
is correction circuitry in the Rev.B and it automatically
adjusts.

Problem 2: Jitter, which is what you described. It is documented
in the Technical Procedures manual and requires the addition of
a capacitor to the Rev.A main logic or "D" board. I don't
recommend you attempting this since it will require complete
disassembly and monitor adjustments. Best bet is to see your
dealer and see what he'll charge to fix it.
--
Bill Moynihan (moynihan@venice.sedd.trw.com)

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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 12:57:27 -0700
From: moynihan@venice.sedd.trw.com (Bill Moynihan)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #236

In article <9209302322.AA21884@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU> you write:
>
>Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 08:57:14 PDT
>From: Kee Nethery <nethery@parc.xerox.com>
>Subject: methods to disable printer test page? (Q)
>
>What are all the various tools and techniques that can be used to disable
>the test page of a laserwriter when it is first powered up? I'd like to
>develop a list.
>
>Kee
>Nethery@parc.xerox.com
>
Kee,

LaserWriter Utility 7.2 does it for me.
--
Bill Moynihan (moynihan@venice.sedd.trw.com)

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Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 23:10:30 -0400
From: Bob Kerns <rwk@crl.dec.com>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #237

    Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 15:03:00 -0700
    From: horton@wente.llnl.gov (Robert Horton)
    Subject: Fat Fujitsu Files

       Recently, when copying a large number of small files from a floppy to
       my
    hard drive, I found that the total size of the files had inflated
    about eightfold.
    Where do I go to redefine the minimum size of a file on my hard disk?

This is a consequence of Apple's file system structures.
I forget the internal details, but the effect is that
in order to have a large filesystem, you have to have
large allocation blocks.

The only solution is to go to several smaller filesystems
on a single physical hard disk.  You can do this with
third-party disk drivers/formatters such as SilverLining,
which do this at the level of the low-level patition table
on the disk.  Or you can use MultiDisk to create logical
drives stored in large files in your big main disk.

Each has its advantages and disadvantages, but either
works well and will solve your problem.  It's easier
to change sizes with MultiDisk, but you can't boot
>From them, and not all the disk recovery tools work
on them (but most do).  You might pay a speed penalty,
but I never noticed one.

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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 09:56:31 -0400
From: "Alan D. Danziger" <aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>
Subject: Looking for a disk exerciser

In comp.sys.mac.digest you (Jerry Weinberg) write:

>We have recently had a major disk crash on our mac network.
>Unfortunately we were unable to recover any of the files
>using Norton's Utilities.

>Subsequently we have re-initialized the drive, and the media
>verifies.  But to be on the safe side before we begin the
>process of re-installing the software, we would like to
>put the drive through its paces, and thereby feel confident
>in its ability to perform.  Can anyone point me to a disk
>exerciser which would do just this? Some program which will
>write out to the disk and read a number of times,
>verifying the integrity of the data.

I would suggest getting a copy of Salient's DiskDoubler.  Included
with the package is a program which does what you want...  It's also
in the "DiskDoubler Utilities" package just uploaded to Sumex, but (I
think) you shouldn't just grab that unless you have DD.

>The drive is a 140 meg Rodime connected to a Mac Plus
>with 2.5 meg ram running system 6.0.4.

Be forewarned, it'll take a few weeks (*grin* actually hours) on a
Plus, though...

	-=Alan

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Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:11:23 PDT
From: Kee Nethery <nethery@parc.xerox.com>
Subject: Looking for a disk exerciser (A)

It's my understanding that MacUser has a Disk Banger program available
through CompuServe that does what you want. Maybe you can find someone with
a CompuServe account who can grab it for you.

Kee
Nethery@parc.xerox.com

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Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 00:31:27 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: making labels

On Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:27:39 -0500 you said:
>I'm making labels for 3.5 and (gasp) 5.25 disks using my laser printer and
>label stock.  I vaguely recall reading about some free/shareware devoted to
>this type of task, but can't locate it on the net.

It's hard to believe that something as handy as Loodle 5.2.2 is no
longer at either sumex or mac.archive.umich.edu :-( but you can still
find a copy at:  uhunix2.uhcc.hawaii.edu   (128.171.44.7)
get /mirrors/info-mac/util/loodle-522.hqx

or iskut.ucs.ubc.ca   (137.82.27.61)
get /pub/info-mac/util/loodle-522.hqx

Loodle does a great job on 3.5 inch disks.  5.25 disks are distinctly
unMaclike :)  I don't know of any Mac software that will generate
directory labels for 5.25 inch disks.

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Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 17:14:40 PDT
From: kroemer@apex.ece.ucsb.edu (Herb Kroemer)
Subject: MaxAlleZoom under S.7 ?

The latest version of MaxAppleZoom in the Archives is 1.43.

Questions:
(1) Is that version System-7-compatible?
(2) Is there a more recent version?





Regards,

Herb K.

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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 9:56:02 PDT
From: AUGUST@JPLLSI.JPL.NASA.GOV (Richard B. August)
Subject: Modem Characteristics/control file for AppleTalk Remote?

We have just attempted to use AppleTalk Remote.  It comes with Modem
Characteristics files for "most" popular modem.  However, true-to-form, we
don't have a "popular" modem.  We have some ZyXEL U-1496 (V.42bis @ 14.4K)
modems which work just fine with other programs.

The question is:  How does one write a Modem Characteristic file for a
modem not listed by Apple?  Is there a tool we don't know about or do we
have to "hack" one out - or do without?

AppleTalk Remote appears to be a useful program and we would certainly like
to use it (just got a PowerBook 145, pretty neat too!).

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Richard B. August
august@jpllsi.jpl.nasa.gov
76630.335@compuserve.com

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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 15:42:11 CDT
From: dblyston@weird.biol.trinity.edu (Daniel Blystone)
Subject: Morph Problems

Has anyone else had problems with MORPH from Gryphon Software.
It is a great program but it crashes quite a bit with a -108.
Does anyone have any suggestions on memory size and the like.

I have talked to Gryphon and they sent me a beta relase of 1.1b2.
It has the same problems.

Any suggestions would be helpfull.

Daniel V. Blystone {dblyston@weird.biol.trinity.edu}
Trinity University Biological Imaging Lab

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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92  18:51 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <RTL%SIVA.BRISTOL.AC.UK@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Movies on Silicon Graphics workstations

I've just seen some demo movies on a Silicon Graphics Iris Indigo
workstation.
They looked quite nice, running in a window about 300x200 in size.  However,
I recall that SG licensed QuickTime from Apple, and I was wondering if what
I was looking at is just SG's implementation of QT - that's certainly how it
looked!  From what I could make out from a cursory inspection of the manuals
and movie editing software however there was no mention of QuickTime or
Apple anywhere

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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 17:02:12 CST
From: ytliu@cad.oes.itri.org.tw (Liu)
Subject: Need network software on Mac to connect UNIX's NFS

I need the software to connect Mac with UNIX's NFS. The solution
I want is not TCP/IP but the one like PC-NFS for IBM PCs which
can think UNIX file system as it in local hadrdisks. If you know
any companies release this product. Please tell me. Thanks for
your assistance. My E-mail address is "ytliu@cad.oes.itri.org.tw".

Yuan-Der Liu
ITRI/OES
E-mail : ytliu@cad.oes.itri.org.tw

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Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 19:38:33 CDT
From: Graeme Forbes <PL0BALF@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU>
Subject: Now Utilities 4  - 2 conflicts (C)

Here are two (more) ways in which NU4 may conflict with your system.
If you use Nisus, NowMenus breaks the Page Break command. There is no
workaround, other than going back to NM from NU3 (reports indicate it
works fine with the other NU4 modules). Now is (right now) working on a
fix.

If you use PopChar you may find that, tho' it displays fonts, it
won't pop chars (at least into WriteNow or Nisus files), or won't pop
chars below a certain hex number. Now will fix this too, but meanwhile,
pressing the Control key before activating PopChar solves the problem.

Graeme Forbes

(To learn how to download files  from info-mac: download  the file
"How to download files from info-mac" in info-mac/misc/catch-22.)

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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 08:01 CST
From: MRSMA@canal.crc.uno.edu
Subject: NuBus Board & Dat

has anyone heard of a NuBus Board for a Dat machine.
would like to use Dat via the serial port(?) to backup hard-drive.
will summarize and post.
sincerely,
mrsma@uno

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Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 09:21:22 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: PB 145 & 170

> A local dealer, when I asked him if I would ever see the 145's I've had on
> order, told me that Apple plans on _keeping_ the 145 and the 170 as the
> non-dockables, and the 160 and the 180 as the dockable computers.  So, it
> does seem a pretty round product line:

Hmm, that doesn't jive with what you have below. The 160 and 180 are
very much from the same mold as the 145 and 170. My sources say that
the 170 will indeed disappear in favor of the 180, but the 145 will
simply drop in price to make room for the 160. The Duo 210 and 230
are indeed the separate dockables, as you say.

> PB145: 25Mhz, LCD Mono, all ports built in

* PB 160 here...

> DU210: 25Mhz, LCD Gray, needs a dock to access anything but a modem

> PB170: 25Mhz, Active Matrix, FPU, all ports built in
* PB180 replaces PB170...

> DU230: 33Mhz, LCD Gray, needs a dock to access anything but a modem

>
> Now, he could be wrong and just be trying to keep me from cancelling my
order,
> but seeing as how Monday he started getting in some 145's, finally!, I think
> that the above should be correct.

Don't buy anything until at least Oct 19th. :-)

cheers ... Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 12:30 CDT
From: trimper@edsi.plexus.COM (Greg Trimper)
Subject: Powerbook 145's to remain, others to come and go

Okay, murph and other people have pointed out that the 170 WILL go, and we
will have:

PB145
PB160
DUO210
PB180
DUO230.

This is direct from the Apples October Newsletter thing, that I was just
looking at.

FYI, educ. price on the 145 4/40 is $1640.  Has anyone else noticed that you
pay $400 more for an 80Mb HD, for only 40Mb more space?  You can get a
battery powered 80Mb external for $400 mail order - and get 80, albiet
'less convienent' more megs of space.

Greg Trimper   trimper@edsi.plexus.com

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 09:37:12 EDT
From: leber@panther.warm.inmet.com (Thomas Leber)
Subject: Quadra 900 Power Supply Problems

My brother manages a Quadra 900 for his company's art department. He
recently told me that they had experienced repeated problems attributed
to the power supply (he was not specific about what happened). This seems
to jog my memory a bit. I believe I recall that Apple had to halt the
Quadra production line early on to resolve a problem relating to the
power supplies. Can anybody confirm this and supply any more details?
They bought the machine very early in production, so I'm wondering if
they got one of the problem supplies.

Cheers,
Tom Leber, <leber@panther.warm.inmet.com> Intermetrics, Inc. Warminster PA

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 00:07:37 EDT
From: alan123@aol.com
Subject: reverse the order..

I would like to make a suggestion.  I am on the internet through AOL,which,
through their infinite wisdom, has only given access to the email on the
internet, and, limits the size of mail files coming through the gasteway by
truncation anything over a certain size.  Hence, I lose about half of the
newsletter every issue.  THe part I do get is the part that have [*], which I
assume are new files uploaded onto internet boards.  Since AOL users can not
get any files on the internet due to the gateway restriction, this part of
the newsletter is of no use to us exceptr fot curiosity value.  The meat and
potatos (no e) of the newsletter, the Q &A, with all the great tips, always
gets cut off!  Is it possible to put the [*] section after the Q & A?  IT
would not affect anyone else, I think, and we could become active
participants.  Maybe we have the answer to a question that cant be read
because it was truncated?  Please consider this.  The Info Mac stuff that I
can read is well organized and thought out, and I do consider it a great
assett. Keep up the great work! With all due respect, Sincerely yours, Alan
Gordon  (Alan123@AOL.com)

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Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 12:32:57 CDT
From: johnw@pro-ren.cts.com (John Withers)
Subject: Sound (Yes, Virginia, another stupid FAQ) how?

I have a (relativly new) LC II and I was wondering if
it was possible to improve the sound the thing emits.
Stereo would be nice, but not necessary.  It definitly
needs larger speakers though.

I've seen external, battery powered speakers that
supposedly work with PeeCee's, but I'm always
leery of pluging something like that into 'my Mac'

Thanks in advance.

John Withers
johnw@pro-rec.cts.com
    - OR - (drum roll please)
/PN=JOHN.WITHERS/O=IRS/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@sprint.com

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Date: 2  Oct 92 10:43 +0100
From: Ulf Dittmer <dittmer@imdm.uke.uni-hamburg.dbp.de>
Subject: StuffIt DeLuxe Translators wanted

Hi fellow netters !

Just recently I learned that there used to be a file called
util/stuffit-deluxe-translators on sumex. Unfortunately it isn't there
anymore. Could some kind soul please repost it ?
Many thanks in advance.

Ulf Dittmer
dittmer@imdm.uke.uni-hamburg.dbp.de

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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 15:13:32 -0400
From: iom@dsunx1.dsrd.ornl.gov (MIKOLIC-TORREI I)
Subject: SuperDrive Upgrade problem resolved.

Thanks to all on the net!

Especiallly Roger Allen, David Bosso, and Alon Mogilner.

Everyone pointed out that I had not replaced the Floppy DIsk Controller
(a.k.a. SWIM) chip.

Alas, my kit did not come with one.  Alon mentioned it was small and
easily overlooked, so I quintuple checked everything.  I REALLY
didn't get one.

A few phone calls to Falcon Microsystems (with particular praise to
Tracey Figliosi there, who was really helpful), and I had the
missing SWIM fedex to me.  Installation wasn't too hard (getting the
old one out was the hardest part).

And I'm now the very happy owner (errr, *user* -- the government is the
owner) of a working FDHD (one that handles 1.4M floppies and PeeCee
formats).

THanks again to all.

Igor Mikolic-Torreira

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Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 21:36:51 EDT
From: Tim Buehrer <timb@ksgbbs.harvard.edu>
Subject: Synchronizing printing and login names

I help run a student computer lab.  All of the PC's and Mac's are on a Novell
3.11 network.  We bill students for printing using software at the printer end
that records the name of the person printing and the number of pages printed.
For the PC users this is relatively easy since we can control the name sent
by the print queue to the software through the capture command that we use
in Netware.  On the Mac we have a bigger problem. We would like for the name
passed to the printer (in system 7 this seems to be the computer owner name
in the sharing setup dialog) and the name used by the user when they log in
to the network (through AppleShare in the Chooser) to be the same.  Has
anyone figured out how to do that?  I know that ChooerUser will synchronize
the names at bootup, but that is inadequate for our purposes. Various users
log in and out all day.  This must be a common problem.  Thanks in advance
for any help you can give.  Please respond to me directly if you can and I
will summarize for the digest.

Tim Buehrer
timb@ksgbbs.harvard.edu

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Date: Thu,  1 Oct 1992 14:13 MST
From: <FRIESEN%NAUVAX.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: System 7.1 - check out the windows... (C)

>While you may have a valid point, I doubt that many will agree that a
>minor interface quirk is "the *real* issue at stake here". Mac users are
>quite comfortable with the operation of the zoom and size box and as a
>teacher of Mac beginners, I know that the new user hardly even notices the
>icon. They just point and click (or drag) at a corner and "something
>happens".


exactly, so no one will mind if we swithc the icons, 'cause the location
of the box is what the nieve users will remember, not what they looked like.

		Aric Friesen

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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:20 EDT
From: "Michael R. Roman" <MIKERO@LNS62.TN.CORNELL.EDU>
Subject: TaxCut

Has anyone tried TaxCut out yet? How good is it? Does anyone know how much it
will cost to keep TaxCut up to date with IRS (that's the one thing that kept
me
>From buying MacinTax - having to fork out tens of dollars a year to stay
current).

Mike Roman
mikero@lns61.tn.cornell.edu

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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 11:46 EST
From: MIGLIUOLO@NERUS.PFC.MIT.EDU
Subject: Tektronix terminal emulator

>Does anyone know of a PD or shareware terminal program that supports
>Tektronix graphics (40014 or 4100)?

Kermit 0.9 ought to do the trick.

------------------------------

Date: 2 Oct 92  7:32:54 CDT
From: ECKARDPP/OA1@OFS.UWEC.EDU
Subject: Telecommunications and 128K Mac

I have a user who wants to use a 128K Mac as a VT100 terminal.  Does anyone
know what software and version number will run on a 128K Mac?  I know
Kermit .40 won't.  Thanks for help.
-Chip Eckardt, UW-Eau Claire Computing & Networking Services-

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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 12:22:46 EDT
From: God <simsh@rpi.edu>
Subject: THINK C problem

Hello out there. I am running THINK C 5.0.3 and apparently when I try to
run a program with malloc() in it there is some kind of problem because
the program breaks to MacsBug. I seem to recall reading something about
this somewhere once, but I don't remember where or what. Does anybody
know what the problem is, and if so, could they please e-mail me? THINK
C seems to work fine on my other programs, but the program with malloc()
is the only one I've seen do this. Thanks very much.

     Hillel Sims                             e-mail: simsh@rpi.edu
     Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute

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Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 00:18:10 EDT
From: alan123@aol.com
Subject: timeout

>For the person whose Plus is going through its startup and not
waiting for the HD... Can anyone recall what utility will allow the delay
time to be changed.

There are two such products I know of.  One is 'Set Timeout' which comes with
Disk Manager Mac, and another is 'Siesta' which comes with Mass Micro
removable hard drives

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