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Subject: Re: WASHINGTON SUCKS SHIT!!!
From: dmclelan@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 16 Dec 92 15:22:02 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

In article <1992Dec14.224951.7252@nmsu.edu>, wlittle@dante.nmsu.edu (Wes) writes:
> I just have to get this off of my chest:  The Washington Redskins are
> the shittiest sorriest piece of shit excuse for an NFL football team I
> have ever seen.  They usually are the luckiest team who seems to get
> all the FUCKING REFS calling the game for them!!  They won yesterday
> against Dallas but everyone knows that the BEST team DID NOT win...
> That was a fucking incomplete pass..Aikman's arm was going forward!!!
> Even if it was a fumble Emitt was fucking down on a knee!!!  AT the
> very very most it was a Safety!!!  Which means Dallas still wins...
> I must say though that Aikman did throw a shitty pass to put Dallas
> in the situation to begin with.  But Dallas' Defense did as they did
> all day and stuffed those fucking Redskins at the 3 yardline!!!  So
> the Refs seeing that there favorite fucking shit team might lose
> decided to take the game into there own hands....! I know I am a
> baby!!1
> 
> I admit it....but I just hate to see the best team lose on a fucked up
> Call.!!  Flame away all you shit head Redskin fans because you know in
> your heart who the better team is...and it will be proven in the
> Playoffs!! You also know in your heart that that call was
> BULLSHIT@!!@@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> Wes

       TEMPER TEMPER, NOW CALM DOWN AND SAY WHAT YOU REALLY THINK
 
   DARIN MCLELAND
 
GO CHIEFS!!!!
From: youssef@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Albert Youssef )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Silly wuarchive question...
Date: 15 Dec 92 07:17:23 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

How can I log on to wuarchive?  I tried to ftp there, and I couldn't
get on...

-Albert Youssef
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 21:00:09 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
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Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
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From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: RICE BY THE NUMBERS
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:26:10 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <1992Dec15.160933.2039@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
>>>>10 - 19 yards - 16
>>>> 1 -  9 yards - 25

I guess I am the one that asked for this chart with my question earlier. Its
pretty obvious that the 41 td's under 10 yards I had heard was really 41 TD's
under 20 yards, a big difference but still a little surprising to me.



>This chart pretty clearly (IMO) shows a) the real value of Rice and b) the 
>effectiveness of the 49er offense. Good teams score TDs when they get the ball
>close, and the 49ers are assuredly that. Other teams find a way to work these
>"inside-the-20" opportunities into 3-point attempts (boy, that sounds like

But doesn't it also show that the 49ers simply play differently down by
the goaline? We shouldn't penalize Rice for this, but by the same token we
shouldn't penalize the other receivers in the NFL whose teams either try
to pound the ball in from close range(like the Cards who appear to have
2 plays inside the 10, Johnson up the middle or throw to Butch Rolle). If
you play for a team that doesn't do this, it minimizes your TD catches. I
would love to see a similar chart for other receivers like Clayton or Largent,
my guess is the guys way up on the TD ranks have a lot of under 20 yard TD's.

Partly because they are good at getting open down there, partly because they
play for a team who throws to wide receivers down there.

Rice is a great receiver, the best I have personally seen, but 101 TD catches 
is in part a reflection of how the 49ers play football. Its not a tainted
number by any means, I just don't thinl its fair to compare his TD rate 
to other receivers and use it against them when they play in different
systems.




Russ Smith
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From: merrill@stsci.edu (Clark Merrill)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.50    
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:02:00 GMT

In article <102597@netnews.upenn.edu>, sajja@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Rajeev  Sajja) writes...
> 
>Now, regarding getting home field advantage, there is one possibility as one
>of the guys on the net suggested a PLANE CRASH...
>NOPE no playoff games at RFK this year. 
> 
The only posible way that would happen is if Wild card #2 plays Wild Card #3
in the NFC championship game.  The odds of this are incredibly slim.  I 
honestly don't see the Redskins making past the second round.  

Clark B. Merrill                        A Life Long Redskins Fan!
Space Telescope Science Institute
Baltimore, Maryland
merrill@stsci.edu
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From: claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird)
Subject: Re: Barry Foster, rushing records
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:20:33 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.012801.16377@zip.eecs.umich.edu> sybesma@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Eric Sybesma) writes:
			.
			.
			.
>I can say Ronnie that you certainly can probably outrun most of us here
>on the net.  Congratulations.  But you are also more full of yourself
>than most of us here on the net.  Of this, I am certain.
			.
			.
			.
Mr. Townsend doesn't need anyone to defend
him, but I want to record that I find his
posts consistently astute.  Moreover, I
don't hear what he writes as posting; he's
just telling what he knows is true, and some
of that happens to be about himself.  Others
should do so well.
-- 

Cameron Laird
claird@Neosoft.com (claird%Neosoft.com@uunet.uu.net)	+1 713 267 7966
claird@litwin.com (claird%litwin.com@uunet.uu.net)  	+1 713 996 8546
From: jeffr@ssec.wisc.edu (Jeff Ramin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: WILDCARDS, READ THIS!
Date: 16 Dec 92 15:35:29 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Space Science and Engineering Center

In article <1992Dec15.223916.24524@macc.wisc.edu>, heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
|> In article <28559@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, pacyna@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Michael Pacyna) writes...
|> 
|> >If Washington and Green Bay are tied at the end of the season, Washington
|> >wins the tiebreaker according to what I've read.  Green Bay's only hope
|> >is to win the division.
|> 
|> Well, the Packers are only 1 game behind the Redskins with 2 games 
|> remaining.  You do the math.
|> 
|> JGH

Except they are actually two games behind the Redskins with two games left,
because the Redskins would win the tiebreaker {conference record}.  The way
the Redskins are playing, the chances of them losing both remaining games are
slim.  Us Packer fans should root for the Redskins to beat the Eagles Sunday,
as the Packers are only one game behind the Eagles {Packers win the tie-breaker
with the Eagles due to head to head record}.  At this point, I can't decide if
the Packers have a better shot at the division, or the wild card.
From: Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Marino Career yardage stats wanted
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:23:02 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1992Dec11.054516.19834@icf.hrb.com>
mjk@icf.hrb.com (Michael J. Kelley) writes:

> Could some kind Miami fan tell me how many career yards passing Dan Marino has?
> Who holds the career record for passing yardage? I was curious because I felt 
> he was getting close. There was a show on TV the other day that had highlights
> from his 1984 season. 5024 yards passing and 40 something TD passes and that
> was in only 14 games. I think it would be safe to say that Dan will set his
> share of passing records before he hangs up the cleets:)

Dan has a few more seasons to go before he'll break Fran Tarkenton's
career mark of 47,003 yards.  At the end of last season, Dan had
compiled 35,386 yards in his career.  In 1984, Dan set two NFL records:
 5,084 yards & 48 TD's.

Mike Colburn                         =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Land of the Giants
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 02:00:09 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
Ramesh Hariharan , Chem Engg. Dept., Princeton Univ. 
Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
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From: patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power)
Subject: Re: WASHINGTON SUCKS SHIT!!!
Reply-To: patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:09:44 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.193010.21539@acuson.com>, brianc@acuson.com (Brian Cox) writes:
|> wlittle@dante.nmsu.edu (Wes) writes:
|> 
|> >I just have to get this off of my chest:  The Washington Redskins are
|> >the shittiest sorriest piece of shit excuse for an NFL football team I
|> 2) I was concerned about Smith's knee being down.  But if you look at the
|>    play in real time, you realize that he never POSESSED the ball.  He
|>    scooped and fumbled all at once so that he would not be ruled down.  He
|>    was trying to pull a Raider!  Because of that I think that the refs made
|>    the correct call.
|> 
       If what you saw is correct, then the refs made the wrong call. If 
    Emmitt tried to advance the ball by fumbling forward, the ball goes back
    to the point of the fumble -- SAFETY!  If he was attempting a shovel pass,
    then it was an incompletion. Either way, the wrong call was made.  I
    wish I knew what was running thru Emmitt's head on that play.  It was
    really dumb. He shoulda just fell on it.
      Also, after numerous replays,  I saw no CONCLUSIVE evidence that Aikman
    fumbled, but I do believe it was the correct call.  It would take the
    most freakish luck for the ball to come back like that.


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From: operbwt@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu(Barry Trottier)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Arithmetic?
Date: 14 Dec 1992 03:36:33 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Reply-To: operbwt@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: g222-13.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

In article <1992Dec13.210840.24203@leland.Stanford.EDU>  
daveshao@leland.stanford.edu (David Shao) writes:
> Every day I see the strangest examples of ignorance of elementary
> mathematics.  Watching the end of the 49er Viking game, I see on the
> television that there are 1 minute and 32 seconds left, and the
> 49ers have the ball on second down with the lead and the Vikings out
> of timeouts.  Now if the offense has a 45 second clock which controls
> how long they can wait before running a play, it seems obvious to me
> that all the 49ers have to do is to have Young fall on the ball twice.
> True, 45*2 is only 90 seconds, but on the other hand I have never seen
> officials who start the 45 second clock within 1 second after the ball is 
> snapped.  But the 49ers decide to run Rathman up the middle.  Fortunately, 
> he didn't fumble the ball, but if he had this would have gone down as
> a blunder as terrible as the fumble several years ago in the 
> Giants-Eagles game.
> 
> Even worse were the comments being offered by the CBS announcing crew.
> They were saying that the 49ers would have to punt, and the Vikings 
> would get the ball back with 6 to 10 seconds left!
> 
> Amp Lee near the end made a nice play to stay in bounds after a good
> run putting the 49ers in the position to merely fall on the ball.
> It's good to see a rookie make the right decision when so many times
> I see the running back running out of bounds without a care in the
> world.


It is tough to use up 45 out of 45 seconds on the play clock.  The most  
possible with high success is probably more like 42 or so.  So, if the  
officials spot the ball quick, probably an average of 45 seconds per play.  2 *  
45 = 90.  This gives the Vikings the ball back.

-----
Go Niners!
Go Elway!

Barry Trottier
e-mail:  operbwt@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:40:13 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
Ramesh Hariharan , Chem Engg. Dept., Princeton Univ. 
Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: loucks@csn.org (Lord Vader)
Subject: Mirer Stinks...
Keywords: draft, prediction, bold
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: world,local
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:53:26 GMT

Mirer doesn't stink but all the rankings that I've seen so far
place Mirer behind both Bledsoe of Washington State and Torretta
of Miami in any draft of QB's.  I've even seen Ward of Florida
State rated higher than Mirer, but I have to disagree with that
one.  

In terms of drafting a QB in Seattle, the Hawks don't even have
the first pick right now.  New England needs to win again.  Anyway,
like a previous person noted, Seattle may well be gunshy about
drafting another QB in the first round.  I think Seattle would do
much better to draft OL Lincoln Kennedy of the Washington Huskies and pick
up a QB some other way, such as a trade for a quality backup from
another team.  How about Mitchell or Secules of Miami?  Worked for
the Chargers.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 02:10:08 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
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Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
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From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Re: The Dynasty Continues..........
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:49:13 GMT

In article <13937@ecs.soton.ac.uk> jdng90@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Gorsuch JDN) writes:

>In <mbb2001-041292212351@m248-102.bgsu.edu> mbb2001@andy.bgsu.edu (Mark B. Benintendi) writes:

>>the best all around team with the best players to run over every team that

>  the 9ers D is something like #25 against the pass, the best all
>around? 

Veterans of this newsgroup know that I'm hardly a team schill, but rating
the Niners defense strictly on the basis of yards allowed will yield
a very misleading assessment.  The Niners' smothering rush defense, 
coupled with a potent offense that has the opponent usually playing
catch-up, results in opposing game plans and adjustments that toss
the running game and focus on the pass.  This is going to yield tons
of passing yards, especially in mop-up time when the Niners are playing
prevent.

The Niners may be #25 in passing yards, but they're about #5 in points
allowed.  They may indeed be the best all-around team.
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