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From: kjv@exucom.com (Karl J. Vesterling)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re: Any Autodesk folks out there?
Date: 9 Jan 93 10:43:34 GMT
Organization: ExuCom Multimedia Inc.
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Earl Boebert (boebert@sctc.com) wrote:
: If anybody from Autodesk monitors this list, I would appreciate
: hearing from you; I have some fairly simple questions about 3D
: Concepts.

: Earl (boebert@sctc.com)

	Nope, noone from Autodesk is on Internet.  They apparently
think that CompuServe is larger...  (Only we know better ;-)

	If you have some questions, maybe jfonzi@fonzi.exucom.com
would be able to help you.

	The guy is amazing with AutoCad...

	BTW, ExuCom is an Authorized AutoCAD dealer for AutoCAD on the
SGI Indigo.

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 11:59:34 EST
From: Brian Surratt <BPS106@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Destroy layers

Does anyone know if it is possible to destroy (erase,delete,remove,etc) a
layer in ACAD Ver.10?  I would like to remove some layers which are no longer
used in a standard drawing I use in my work.  Any help is appreciated.
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: kelson@ais.org (David Lewis)
Subject: unable to initialize default plotter
Organization: UMCC
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:01:47 GMT



  I have a friend from another company that has Autocad 12 C_1.   He has
a few different plotters in his plotter list, but sometimes when
he switches to one of them and tries to plot he gets an "unable to
initialize default plotter".  Has anyone seen this problem?  Anyone
have any suggestions?   Its seems to happen the most with the Epson
24 pin, and the Calcomp monochrome (option 3)  he has the latest 
drivers from Compuserve.

  Thanks
    --Dave


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From: boebert@sctc.com (Earl Boebert)
Subject: Any Autodesk folks out there?
Organization: SCTC
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:32:11 GMT

If anybody from Autodesk monitors this list, I would appreciate
hearing from you; I have some fairly simple questions about 3D
Concepts.

Earl (boebert@sctc.com)


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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:34:04 -0700
From:         Rebecca Esparza <rebeccae@KINGTUT.COLORADO.EDU>
Subject:      Text from a drawing

I'm trying to save myself some work.  Does anyone know
if there is a way to export text from a drawing to an
ascii text file?

Thanks,
Rebecca Esparza
rebeccae@kingtut.colorado.edu
From: martin_s@sn3009.oldham.gpsemi.com (Martin Shelley)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re: AutoCad block definitions
Keywords: blocks
Date: 8 Jan 93 10:56:43 GMT
Organization: GEC Plessey Semiconductors

Thanks to all those whose posted/mailed a reply to my request about block
data definitions - I should have been able to work it out really.

	Cheers,
		Martin
 
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From: rebeccae@KINGTUT.COLORADO.EDU (Rebecca Esparza)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re: Destroy layers
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:55:48 GMT
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> Brian Surratt writes:

> Does anyone know if it is possible to destroy (erase,delete,remove,etc) a
> layer in ACAD Ver.10?  I would like to remove some layers which are no longer
> used in a standard drawing I use in my work.  Any help is appreciated.
>


Have you tried the purge command?  It's necessary to do this several times
in order to remove nested information from the drawing.  For example:  In the
drawing editor, type purge at the command prompt and use the all option, it
will go through all the stuff that isn't used in your drawing.  When finished
save and do it again til there is nothing left to purged (No unreferenced " "
found.)


Rebecca Esparza
rebeccae@kingtut.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: ravitech@netcom.com (Ravi Technologies)
Subject: Looking for .DXF reader
Keywords: DXF, Windows
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 20:24:53 GMT

We are looking for a C library to read .dxf file to extract 2-D geometry
a 2-D layout. The extracted geometry would be rendered in a window.
Preferably this should be for Microsoft Windows environment.

Please e-mail your replies to  ashwin@ravitech.com.

Sincerely,

Ashwin Shah
Ravi Technologies, Inc.
3080 Olcott St., #220C
Santa Clara, CA 954054

Phone: (408) 748-7400
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re: Destroy layers
From: blu@cellar.org (Dan Reed)
Date: 8 Jan 93 13:51:57 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

BPS106@psuvm.psu.edu (Brian Surratt) writes:

> Does anyone know if it is possible to destroy (erase,delete,remove,etc) a
> layer in ACAD Ver.10?  I would like to remove some layers which are no longer
> used in a standard drawing I use in my work.  Any help is appreciated.


Uhh, the PURGE command?  


     Dan Reed - blu@cellar.org - AutoCAD Geek -Industrial Music Lover
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From: martin_s@sn4608.oldham.gpsemi.com (Martin Shelley)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: AutoCad block definitions
Keywords: blocks
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:58:39 GMT
Organization: GEC Plessey Semiconductors

I am using AutoCad version 11 and am programming using the ADS system.

What I would like to know is how I can read the data from a block definition.
I can find the block header using ads_ssget(...) but this does not give any
pointers to the block data. Its probably something obvious - but I can't see 
it. (the only way I have thought of getting the data I need is to insert the block exploded, pick up the data and then undo the insert - tacky, horrible etc).

	Cheers
		Martin

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From: olasov@cs.columbia.edu (Benjamin Olasov)
Subject: Re: AutoCad block definitions
Keywords: blocks
Organization: none
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 02:28:00 GMT

In article <C0FwDr.JLI@bailgate.gpsemi.com> martin_s@sn4608.oldham.gpsemi.com (Martin Shelley) writes:
>I am using AutoCad version 11 and am programming using the ADS system.
>
>What I would like to know is how I can read the data from a block definition.
>I can find the block header using ads_ssget(...) but this does not give any
>pointers to the block data. Its probably something obvious - but I can't see 
>it. (the only way I have thought of getting the data I need is to insert the block exploded, pick up the data and then undo the insert - tacky, horrible etc).

Get the ssname of the block by using ads_ssname() with the selection
set returned by ads_ssget(), then use ads_entget() with ssname as its
arg to produce a list of the block's data.

Ben
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From: psmedsha@ecst.csuchico.edu (Paul Smedshammer)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Higher Accuracy
Date: 7 Jan 93 03:08:38 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

I'm having a little trouble using the LIST feature of AutoCAD 11.  I
have a 3D drawing and I  need to extract the X, Y, and Z coordinate
values.  I have no problem doing this using LIST and then choosing the
desired line.  What I do need though is more decimal places from this
listing.  Currently I get 4 decimal places and I would like
approximately 8.  Is this possible by changing a default setting? 
Thanks.

Paul. 

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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:35:09 EST
From:         "John A. Kloepper" <71543.3503@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Generic Cad system requirements

A friend of mine is considering purchasing a 286-12 with 1 mb of ram and a
monocrome monitor. She asked me how Generic Cad might run on such a
system. Being that I am not that familiar with the program, I am looking
for any ideas or thoughts.
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 11:46:52 -0800
From:         Gary Bishop <bishop@EQUINOX.UNR.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What new innovation, software or products do you want to see?

In response to Babak Sehari recent request, I would like to see a new
approach to the design and mfg. of keyboards. The "qwertyuiop" keyboard
we all use (properly called the Sholes keyboard, after its inventor) came
on the market around 1878. That an entire high-tech industry is dependent
on such an inefficient and archaic technology never ceases to amaze me.
And if the high schools and typing classes of our society weren't
subsidizing the training needed to use this technology, I doubt it would
last 5 years if the keyboard manufacturers themselves had to underwrite the
cost of using these keyboards. Anyway, what I think the world could use is
a keyboard much smaller, lighter, ergonomically sensible with far FEWER keys.
I suspect 10 or 12 would be enough. For centuries musicians have known that
keyboards can be simultaneously struck with two or more fingers. (They're
called "chords" on the piano.) Court reporters understand this too. Why
doesn't the computer industry? Braille typists do it routinely.

We are basically dedicated to the idea of "one finger, one key, one
character". Good idea in 1878. Bad idea for the 21st C. Finally, there
is no reason why every keyboard user shouldn't be able to program the
keyboard to his or her own needs. And I don't find the idea of programming
one key to generate a long string macro good enough. We don't really know
which finger or which chord combination of fingers should be used for what
information output. Therefore we need a keyboard that will allow people to
experiment. The solution depends on what language you are typing in and the
frequency with which particular letters appear in that language. It also
depends on knowing more about the neuro-musculature of the human hand when
used continuously as an information transmitting device.

And if someone suggests that voice input will render all this keyboard
technology unnecessary, I suggest they look at the neuro-musculature of
the voice mechanisms and the fatigue rate thereof when used for any
significant period of time.

John Martinson Univ. of Nevada, Reno.


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Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: wnkretz@ikesg1.energietechnik.uni-stuttgart.de (Oliver Kretzschmar)
Subject: Can not see vowel mutations in german 12.0 ACAD version - Need help
Organization: IKE
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 08:41:41 GMT



   Hey,

   we have a ACAD 12.0 version in german language, but we can not see
   the vowel mutations in the menus. How can I change this ?
   Please mail me your informations.

   Thanks,
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From: wolf@Autodesk.COM (Wolf Herda)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad,comp.graphics,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: S3 drivers for AutoCad 12 needed
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:26:24 GMT
Followup-To: alt.cad.autocad
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA

lauusitalo@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi writes:
<> 
<>         
<>    Could someone tell me where to get S3 drivers for AutoCad 12?
<>    Older drivers won't work with v 12.
<> 
<>    Please mail me, thanks.
<> 
<>     Lauri
<> 
<> -- 
<> -------------------------------------------------------------------
<> Lauri Uusitalo                 I          "Life is hard,          
<> lauri.uusitalo@ntc.nokia.com   I                then you die..."  


Couple of options.


#1 -- Contact the manufacturer of your graphics board.  S3 corporation
      has recently released a final version of their hi-performance ADI
      4.2 driver to their OEMs.

#2 -- Your older 4.1 drivers will work, albeit, with limited functionality
      as they won't be able to make use of some the R12 features.

#3 -- There are numerous ADI drivers available from 3rd parties for ACAD R12
      that support the S3 chipsets.  For example, Panacea's Turbo DLD,
      Vibrant's SoftEngine, and Graphics Software Lab's Mach 12.


Wolf Herda
wolf@autodesk.com
From: wilmshurst@reg.triumf.ca (WILMSHURST, PETER)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re:      FLI,FLC EDITORS/PLAYERS
Date: 8 Jan 1993 00:41 PST
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Distribution: world
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <01GT8NFLAT1E002CU1@EKU.BITNET>, Bob <ACSRAINS@EKU.BITNET> writes...
>I am in the processing of trying to find any public domain
>editor/recorder/players for FLI and FLC files.  I am using 3D-Studio
>Release 2 and although a FLI player is included, the only way to view a
>FLC is from inside the actual program.
> 
>Any information as to where I might locate anthing like this would be
>greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
>Thanks ahead of time...
> 
>Bob Rains
>Software Consultant
>Academic Computing Services
>Eastern Kentucky University
>ACSRAINS@EKU.BITNET



	Bob...
		Look for a program called AAPLAYHI.EXE (ZIP) or ANIPLAY.EXE
	(ZIP) on some FTP sites. They come with AutoDesk Animator Pro and
	play FLC/FLIs upto 1024x768. (Both need VESA driver loaded)

	Or look for PLAY73.ZIP This one will play FLCs and does not need
	a VESA driver loaded, I have had problems with large FliCs (ie:
	2.0 MB+) It doesn't destry them, they just don't load properly.

		Maybe someone out there can give FTP site addresses...
	Good Luck.

	Pete Wilmshurst
	email:  wilmshurst@reg.triumf.ca
		wilmshurst@erich.triumf.ca


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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:11:37 -0500
From:         Bob <ACSRAINS@EKU.BITNET>
Subject:      FLI,FLC EDITORS/PLAYERS

I am in the processing of trying to find any public domain
editor/recorder/players for FLI and FLC files.  I am using 3D-Studio
Release 2 and although a FLI player is included, the only way to view a
FLC is from inside the actual program.

Any information as to where I might locate anthing like this would be
greatly appreciated.


Thanks ahead of time...

Bob Rains
Software Consultant
Academic Computing Services
Eastern Kentucky University
ACSRAINS@EKU.BITNET
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: sg10770@medtronic.COM (Steve J. Gompertz)
Subject: Re: Wanted: IGES definition document
Organization: Medtronic, Inc.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:47:13 GMT

In article <68670001@hpindda.cup.hp.com> wusheng@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Wusheng Chen) writes:
>Wanted: IGES definition documents
>
>  How to get this documents ?
>  Any advice is appreciated.


You may want to start by contacting the National IGES User Group (NIUG).
The NIUG is administrated by the National Computer Graphics Assoc. (NCGA)
as part of the U.S. Product Data Assoc. (USPRO) and the IGES/PDES Organization
(IPO).  God don't ya just love all this alphabet soup?  The NIUG provides
a neutral forum for the sharing and exchange of information about the 
development, implementation, and use of IGES technology.  Membership costs
$49 dollars per year.  As a member you automatically become a member of
a Regional Interest Group (RIG) if one is located near you.  If not, then
consider starting one.  You also get access to an electronic bulletin board
and receive a bi-monthly newsletter.  Membership also provides discounts on
various educational program, conferences, and IGES related materials like
the IGES standard itself.

For info on the NIUG contact:

  Craig Stewart
  NCGA
  (703)698-9600

The only way to get an IGES standard is through NCGA.  I think it costs about
$100.  You get a discount if you are a NIUG member.

Hope this gets you started.  Most of the RIG's allow people to attend a
meeting or two before becoming a paid member.  Also, if you contact Craig
he might let you get into the bulleting board to check things out before
becoming a member.  You can feel free to also contact me for more info.

Sincerely,

Steve Gompertz                                Phone: (612)574-6428
President, Twin Cities IGES User Group        Fax:   (612)574-6177
Medtronic, Inc.                               email: s.gompertz@medtronic.com
7000 Central Avenue N.E. - T374
Minneapolis, MN  55432
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Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: jjhi@vipunen.hut.fi (Jari Hiltunen)
Subject: Re: DXF description / reading library NEEDED
Keywords: dxf
Reply-To: jjhi@vipunen.hut.fi (Jari Hiltunen)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 11:37:36 GMT

In article <vladimir.726530208@sunchild> vladimir@cs.UAlberta.CA (Vladimir Alexiev) writes:
>I need to read .DXF (2D) files from a program.
>A (C or C++) library for this task or at least a description of the format
>will be highly appreciated.

The DXF file format is most accurately described in the AutoCAD
manuals.  Various AutoCAD books also describe the format.  Somebody
correct me if I'm wrong, but one of the best is probably "The AutoCAD
Database Book".

Building Block Software, 371 Moody Street, Waltham, MA 02154,
Phone (617) 899-4350 offers a couple of different C libraries
for reading DXF files and doing things with geometry.

Writing the DXF input routines yourself is not that diffucult
either if you have good DXF specs.  In some applications it's
better to do it yourself right away so that you can convert the
DXF file to your program's internal data structure directly.



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From: forkin@kirk.fmi.uni-passau.de (Christopher Forkin)
Subject: DXF-file formatHi,
Organization: University of Passau, Germany
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 12:13:01 GMT

This might be a FAQ, but I havent't seen it so far, so could someone mail
me a precise description of the DXF-file format and/or a list of books
describing it. I would like to write a program that creates DXF-files from
a graphics-description-language that I'm designing at the moment.

   Thanks in advance.
          Chris.
 

Keywords: 
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Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: jjhi@vipunen.hut.fi (Jari Hiltunen)
Subject: Re: What new innovation, software or products do you want to see?
Reply-To: jjhi@vipunen.hut.fi (Jari Hiltunen)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:11:59 GMT

In article <sehari.726198127@du139-208.cc.iastate.edu> sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:
>---
>
>What type of new innovation, software or products do you want to be
>introduced to the market place.  
...
>            You could become part of history by initiating the process of
>innovation.

Call me capitalist but I'd rather take money than fame for my ideas.

>Send your answers, along with it's possible applications to me via
>Email.  We might be able to produce things that you might never thought
>possible, for you. My Email Address is sehari@iastate.edu.

Nice going.  Why don't we post our ideas here so we can all dig out
the goldmines together :-)
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From: dlb@controls.ccd.harris.com (Doug Bennett)
Subject: Re: Text from a drawing
Organization: Harris Controls Division
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:22:53 GMT

rebeccae@KINGTUT.COLORADO.EDU (Rebecca Esparza) writes:
: I'm trying to save myself some work.  Does anyone know
: if there is a way to export text from a drawing to an
: ascii text file?
: 
: Thanks,
: Rebecca Esparza
: rebeccae@kingtut.colorado.edu
From: wusheng@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Wusheng Chen)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:35:18 GMT
Subject: Wanted: IGES definition document
Organization: HP Information Networks, Cupertino, CA
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad

Wanted: IGES definition documents

  How to get this documents ?
  Any advice is appreciated.
From: drake@Autodesk.COM (Dan Drake)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re: Any Autodesk folks out there?
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:01:11 GMT
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA

kjv@exucom.com (Karl J. Vesterling) writes:
> Earl Boebert (boebert@sctc.com) wrote:
> : If anybody from Autodesk monitors this list, I would appreciate
> : hearing from you; I have some fairly simple questions about 3D
> : Concepts.
> 
> : Earl (boebert@sctc.com)
> 
>       Nope, noone from Autodesk is on Internet.  

Actually, there are a few of us who lurk on netnews and answer the
things that we happen to know about.  We do this from (pick one) a sense
of duty to the customers, or sheer boredom, or a notion that occasional
contact with real users isn't a waste of the money the company pays us
for programming.  But the place where people take on any and all
questions, and aren't stealing time from their regular jobs to do it, is
CompuServe.

> They apparently
> think that CompuServe is larger...  (Only we know better ;-)
> ...

I'm not sure what you mean by larger here; there's no question about
where the larger concentration of Autodesk customers is.  The traffic in
this newsgroup is a fraction of that in the Autodesk C'Serve forum.
Making the newsgroup an official support source would change the ratio,
but not all that much.  Please don't flame me for Usenet bashing; note
that I'm using it, and in fact I have never used CompuServe.  But the
world isn't always as sensible as I am.  And, much as I regret sounding
like a capitalist, the company has to make a finite amount of money go as
far as possible and generate a profit.

So, if there's a question here that somebody knows about, a volunteer
from Autodesk may pop up; otherwise you'll get silence or a repetition
of a message like this (yuck).  With luck, you may get a piece of free
advice from the programmer who actually wrote the feature, and doubltess
it will be worth every penny.


--
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drake@Autodesk.com        It tolls for Them.