HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Subject: Re: GCR troubles
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 21:56:02 GMT

In article f@rpi.edu, pinelr@aix.rpi.edu (Rob Pinelli) writes:
>  I know it's bad form to follow up your own posts, but here goes:
>
>  I checked my drive using GCRTEST and guess what?  It can't seem to format,
>read, or write to side 1 on the 9 and 8 sector tracks.  But ONLY side one,
>and ONLY the 9 and 8 sector tracks.  Is my drive fuct or does side 1's
>head need to be cleaned?  *sigh*

Rob, my guess is that your problems are due to disk drive interference (Dave
Small calls it "feedback").  This problem is particularly common on MegaST
units evidently.  If you have an external drive, try booting the Apple system
disk from that drive.  I know some folks have tried shielding their drive
mechs by wrapping them in foil and all sorts of other tricks but to what
effect, I don't know.  My MSTE has the same problem, and I just use the 
external drive and be done with it.  Others here might have a good suggestion
for you or else you could FAX your question to Gadget's By Small, 303-791-0253.


___________________________ John "HUTCH" Hutchinson _________________________
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From: cordes@ac.dal.ca (John Cordes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: ORCS - Otto's Resource Construction Set
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:29:44 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <HESCHE.92Sep29120153@rinser.cs.tu-berlin.de>, hesche@cs.tu-berlin.de (Herwig Schelauske) writes:
> 
>  > The version on atari.archive.umich.edu (Directory atari/Utilities/ filename
>  > orcs.lzh) only has the ORCS.PRG file and ORCS.RSC file. It doesn't have
>  > the ORCS.HLP file, or any documentation otherwise.
> 
>  > A program this good can't possible be PD can it?  The previous versions were
>  > commercial, and this is 50-times better?! 
> 
> Its shareware, pay DM 50 to:
>         Thorsten Otto                   Bankverbindung:
>         Katharinenstr. 14               Stadtsparkasse Essen
>         4300 Essen 1                    BLZ 360 501 05
>         Germany                         Kto. 8366734
> 
> Then you get a documentation and some examples in C, GFA-Basic, pascal
> and assembler.
>  
>  > If anyone knows an FTP site with the FULL archive (with all files,
>  > ORCS.HLP etc.) Could they please tell us!  It has a LOT of features,
> 
> PACKED    SIZE  RATIO        CRC        STAMP       NAME
> ------- ------- ------ ---------- ------------ -------------
> 121748  227750  53.4% -lh5- e8cd Oct 22  1991 orcs/orcs.prg     <--
>  20471   63510  32.2% -lh5- ec98 Oct 22  1991 orcs/orcs.rsc     <--
>    772    1423  54.2% -lh5- cc3b Oct 17  1991 orcs/orcs.txt
>  20808   64612  32.2% -lh5- 6526 Oct 22  1991 orcs/orcsger.rsc  <--
>    924    1826  50.6% -lh5- dba3 Oct 22  1991 orcs/readme       <--
> ------- ------- ------ ---------- ------------ -------------
> 164723  359121  45.8%            Jun  7 08:09
> 
> orcs.txt and readme are german texts without detailed information
> about using orcs. All marked (<--) files should come together, all
> other packedges should be removed, because they are not completely!
> 
> Its available from
> ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de (130.149.17.7): /pub/atari/programming/orcs.lzh
> ftp.uni-muenster.de:/pub/atari/programming/orcs.lzh
> ftp.uni-stuttgart.de:/soft/atari/lang/rsc_util/orcs.lzh
> 
> Bye
>                    Herwig
> 
> -- 
> Herwig Schelauske, Charlottenburger Ufer 1, 1000 Berlin 10 | MAUS: @ B
> Phone: +49 30.342 05 39 | Internet: hesche@cs.tu-berlin.de
> Please send flames to dev/null

 I got it about a week ago from clausthal (sun.rz.tu-clausthal.de), in 
~pub/atari/programming. The same 5 files listed by Herwig were in the 
package. No .HLP file.


John Cordes,  Dept. of Physics,  Dalhousie University         
Halifax, N.S., Canada  B3H 3J5   email: cordes@ac.dal.ca

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu
Subject: Re: comp.sys.atari.falcon
Reply-To: davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu
Organization: Health Computer Sciences, U of MN, Mpls
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:51:44 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.013510.13771@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, schram@spot.Colorado.EDU (Steve Schram) writes:
>How about we start a new group for the falcon?  I believe it more than
>deserves its own group.  How 'bout it?

I would wait about nine months before actually proposing that such a newsgroup
be formed.  That should be enough time for the owner-base to become large enough
that Falcon-specific postings will no longer be of interest to non-Falcon
owners.  It will also give enough time for us to determine whether the
Falcon-specific message traffic is sufficiently large enough to merit its own
newsgroup.

The Falcon is not a big jump in machine/OS from the (Mega) ST/STe/TT, certainly
not as big a jump as Atari 8-bit to Atari ST.  Give the machine time to
actually be purchased before considering a separate newsgroup.

-- David Paschall-Zimbel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: stigj@dhhalden.no (STIG JORGENSEN)
Subject: Re: using Falcon DSP as modem?
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:22:03 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.191519.4983@phys-chemie.uni-wuerzburg.dbp.de> kruel@phys-chemie.uni-wuerzburg.dbp.de (Thomas-Martin Kruel) writes:
>From: kruel@phys-chemie.uni-wuerzburg.dbp.de (Thomas-Martin Kruel)
>Subject: Re: using Falcon DSP as modem?
>Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:15:19 GMT
>So when we talk about the possibility of making use of the 
>DSP 56k as a modem, is anybody out there who knows if the 
>appropriate software is available for the NeXT ? 
>As far as I know, the same DSP is in that machine.
>
>How does it work there ? If there is some thing existing, 
>then the discussed hardware adapters for hooking off, handling 
>phone voltages etc.  should be available already.
>
>Any infos ?
>
>Thomas.
>-- 
>
>Th.-M. Kruel   Institut fuer Physikalische Chemie der Universitaet Wuerzburg
>               Marcusstr. 9-11,  D-8700 Wuerzburg (Germany)
>               Phone: +49 931 31579


I don't think you can do that on the NeXT, because you can't program the DSP 
directly :-(

Stig
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: avp@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Anthony Paul)
Subject: Toad Computers
Organization: CS Dept, Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:16:44 GMT

Well today marks 5 weeks from the day I ordered from Toad Computers.

I had heard only good things about this company.  I seriously
doubt I will ever order from them again.  I ordered a hard drive case
and 2 lynx games, all of which I was told were in stock.

Maybe there is some problem that is beyond their control?

I will not waste my time and money phoning them to check on this
order.

Anyway, consider this a public service announcement.

(If anybody who lives in a local exchange to Toad would like to
phone them and check on the order, I would appreciate it.)


Anthony V. PauL             AV     VPPPP 
137 Rennies Mill Rd.       A V    V   P 
St. John's, Nf            A  V   V   P 
CanadA                   AAAAV  VPPPP
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                       A     VV   

avp@garfield.UUCP      || It wasn't me.           || Electrical  '9 
avp@garfield.cs.mun.ca || Boston Celtics in 92-93 || Engineering  4     
||   The best defense is a good offense. --- How do you Drive?   ||
From: anamr@cats.ucsc.edu (Ana M Rodriguez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Samples and Falcon...
Date: 2 Oct 1992 06:43:17 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu
Keywords: Nyquist, DSP.



What I heard was that Sony was working on a blue laser to increase 
storage by several magnitudes on CD...
From: stramba@zooid.guild.org (Mike Stramba)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: comp.sys.atari.falcon
Date:  1 Oct 92 18:46:21 GMT

From: schram@spot.Colorado.EDU (Steve Schram)
>How about we start a new group for the falcon?  I believe it more than
>deserves its own group.  How 'bout it?
>

I agree, as interesting as I find the Falcon, I still have an ST (as I
imagine do 1 or 2 other people <g>.
From: osoelgaultier+@CMU.EDU (Stefan Monnier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Backing up the HD -- AGAIN
Date: 4 Oct 92 13:32:43 GMT
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.atari.st: 4-Oct-92 Re: Backing up the HD
-- AGAIN Desmond Liu@mindlink.bc. (1126)

> >In my previous posting, I had requested some advice on the best utility to
> >use in backing up my HD.  My problems arise from not being able to find
> >a program that will compress the files while backing them up or being able
> >to restore the files once backed up.

> I've written an archiver program amongst the likes of ZOO and LZH which
> supports multi-volume archives like ARJ. You use a switch to specify how
> large you want each archive to be ('-c720') and it will compress all the
> files specified into a number of archives of 720K each. It works well,
> however: (1) Compression is a little slower than Zoo or Lzh; (2) it only
> stores files, so any empty directories won't be saved; and (3) it's a
> preliminary version, so you can't do an 'incremental' backup like most
> decent HD backup programs. Decompression is almost as fast as file copying,
> though. In any case, leave me E-mail and I will send you a uuencoded
> executable.
> ---
> Desmond Liu, B.Sc. in Comp. Science  UUCP: a3148@mindlink.UUCP
> Vancouver, B.C. (Go Canucks!!!)  Bang: ...!van-bc!rsoft!mindlink!a3148
> (still looking for work *sigh*)  Internet: a3148@mindlink.bc.ca


In case, there is also a 'split' program (I believe it is split.app) 
at a.a (maybe in misc, but I can't remember) which splits a file
in smaller ones (you just specify the max size).
With lzh, it's just fine to do 'manual' backups (if you have enough
HD space to store the temp big archive)

	Stefan

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From: knarf@nasim.sta.sub.org (Frank Bartels)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Rufus doesn't work well with my modem
Date: 2 Oct 92 12:52:08 GMT
Reply-To: knarf@nasim.sta.sub.org
Organization: Knarf's UUCP-Center, Munich, West-Germany
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992

In <1992Oct1.124218.3026@fwi.uva.nl>, Richard G.C. Storm (I89 writes:
>
>
>After installing my modem(TORNADO) and rufus vs 106 I tried
>to connect with my university. After connecting I got all
>the lines double.
>
>Does anybody knows what to do (How to put the echo off??? maybe)

The latest version of Rufus I know is the V 1.11 rel-9. Rufus has been
changed totally since V 1.10 so I don't remember how to put the echo
off. Just search in the menus. I think echo off is default, so the last
solution will be removing your configuration file (RUFUS.RUF).

I didn't find the latest version of Rufus on my first adventure through
Internet at a.a. I just found the quite old (but funny) version 1.02
there.
Anywhere I heard about the version 1.20. Is this true?

>Richard Storm, storm@fwi.uva.nl || 
>University of Amsterdam.

Knarf
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From: hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: HELP!! Do I have a virus or a sick ST?
Date: 1 Oct 92 13:14:37 GMT
Organization: Department of Philosophy, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands

C556212@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Jeoff Hines) writes:

>  I have been trying out the newest version of Chameleon on my 520 ST and
>since it runs the control panel (a desk .ACC I usually live without) I have

Try to install the control panel separately - so put it in C:\ and don't use
Chameleon to load the CP. They don't cooperate too well. I mean, you *can*
use Chameleon, but not for the CP. This is just a guess, but I remember having
tried to load the CP with Cham once, and encountering difficulties.

--
Hendrik Jan Veenstra  |   hjv@phil.ruu.nl   |   You look for your dreams in
Dept. of Philosophy   |                     |   heaven, but what the hell are
University of Utrecht |                     |   you supposed to do when they
The Netherlands       |                     |   come true...?
From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Distribution: world
Organization:  One of these days for sure
X-News: HERMES MMAIL 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Subject: Re: New Mac Prices tough on Falcon
	<1992Oct2.141022.26727@newshost.lanl.gov>
	<1992Oct3.095347.23236@newstand.syr.edu>
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1992 11:42:34 -0700

In <1992Oct3.095347.23236@newstand.syr.edu> ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Gerald Greenberg) writes:

>In article <1992Oct2.141022.26727@newshost.lanl.gov> hutch@bellman.lanl.gov writes:
>>
>>Apple will literally sell _millions_ of these things while Atari is still
>>struggling to find a few dealers willing to carry their hardware.  Sheeesh.
>>

>Very good John, but there's a bit more to put into the
>equation:

>It doesn't matter which machine is better, what matters is
>which machine has better software (and I don't just mean one
>or maybe two programs), more software, better peripheral
>support, more peripheral support, better 3rd party support,
>more 3rd party support.  Furthermore, think about developers
>and BIG software companies...are they going to develop for the
>better machine, or the machine that more people own and from
>which they'll earn more money. 

   This is the catch-22 of the whole thing, isn't it? No one wants 
a computer that doesn't have a lot of software available for it, and 
no one want's to take a chance writing for a machine that has such
a small userbase. I wonder if Atari's money would be better spent 
commissioning software to be written for them than on advertising?
Of course, every time thay've tried this, they seem to have have
made a botch of it. Remember Microsoft Write for the Atari? While 
there are plenty of applications available from Europe, the extra
expense of re doing them in English must be passed on to a very small
user base, plus the usual import costs, so it adds to the price 
considerably.
   As an example, I found it much cheaper to mail order Pure C from 
Germany than to buy it here. Considering the size of the market, I 
realise Gribnif probably pays the same price as I did, so it's 
understandable, but still not a very good situation.


-- 
       John Henders      jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca
    I think your "evolutionary scale" needs an adjustment.  Either 
      that, or you've got your thumb on it. -> (lefty@apple.com)
From: bill@mwca.UUCP (Bill Sheppard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Press Coverage of Falcon?
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:30:45 GMT
Organization: Microware Systems Corp., Santa Clara, Ca.

The San Jose Mercury News did run a front-page (Business section) article with
a fair number of details, but expressed doubt as to Atari's chances for
success given that it's neither PC nor Mac compatible.

In a separate article last Sunday in the Computing section there was a cover
story about "Making your TV like a computer", stressing CD-I, CDTV, and
Tandy/Microsoft's new garbage-I-mean-home multimedia player, and did have a
paragraph mentioning Atari's new home computer as possessing multimedia
capabilities.

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From: jvance@maxwell.oac.uci.edu (Joachim Vance)
Subject: Re: ORCS - Otto's Resource Construction Set
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Keywords: rsc
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:51:39 GMT

wvleeshh@wg.estec.esa.nl (wim vleeshhouwer) writes:
>I cannot find this program on a.a. under atari/Utilities, where is it?

  It's actually in atari/Programming.

Speaking of German help files.  Does anyone have a good dictionary
(for the ger2eng program) that they've built up to translate German
computer-oriented text well?

--
Joachim Vance
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     I am antisesquipedalian--Opposed to the use of long words.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Monkey Island II
From: Steven.Wells@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:44:46 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1a946bINN4eu@gap.caltech.edu> rkrii@cco.caltech.edu (Robert Kim Rickenbrode II) writes:
> Does anyone know if Monkey Island II has been released for the ST's yet?
> 

Hasn't yet, and if it is, it'll be for the Falcon most likely!
--
From: glover@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Eric Glover)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: comp.sys.atari.falcon
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:43:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Sep30.234303.1278
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <69480@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt1448b@prism.gatech.EDU (David P. Forrai) writes:
>How about changing comp.sys.atari.st to comp.os.tos?  Atari machines 
>account for a small user base which makes a sys group for each model
>unnecessary.  Besides, nothing really exciting is happening for the
>ST, the future for Atari computers (right now) is the Falcon.

While there are no fireworks on the Generic "ST" platform. We must
remember that the Falcon is after all an ST as I understand it.
This would be the same as saying to Quadra users that you are not Mac
users.

Thats just the way I see it.
A hopefully soon to be Falcon user.
From: okes@essex.ac.uk (Oke S)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: New Mac Prices tough on Falcon
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:22:59 GMT
	<Aemvoq_00awAAFql9r@andrew.cmu.edu>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Essex, UK.
In-reply-to: osoelgaultier+@CMU.EDU's message of 1 Oct 92 19:08:38 GMT

In article <Aemvoq_00awAAFql9r@andrew.cmu.edu> osoelgaultier+@CMU.EDU (Stefan Monnier) writes:
| Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.atari.st: 1-Oct-92 New Mac Prices tough
| on Falcon Marcelino Bernardo@ereva (478)
| > Here is a portion of a recent press release posted in
| > comp.sys.mac.announce.
| >                                  Previous SRP   New SRP  %Change 
| > Macintosh LC II(4MB/40HD)         $1,699         $1,239    27
| > Macintosh LC II(4MB/80HD)         $1,849         $1,349    27
|
| > It seems to me that Atari would have a hard time marketing the Falcon with
| > similar configuration for ~$1300 as I've read in this newsgroup.
|
| Although it is twice as fast, has DSP, and ....
| well, I'm just wondering: why am I answering this kind of post ?

Because you don't realise what an influence software support has on people
perhaps? Don't flame me, I'v had an ST for 4.5 years, and I'm getting fed up
with the way software companies are withdrawing support for the ST. My next
machine (hopefully I'll get one next year) will probably be a PC (ugh!)

--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Problem: Maps & Legends bombs with TOS 1.4
From: s19184@seb.se (Michael Evans)
Date: 4 Oct 92 23:09:04 +0100
Organization: S-E-Banken, Sweden
Nntp-Posting-User: s19184

I have version 3.04 of Antic's "Maps & Legends" and have discovered
that it bombs with TOS 1.4 on most attempts to draw a map. It
occasionally does not bomb, but in most such cases after a long delay
produces an incomplete map. It only appears to produce certain maps of
Europe correctly. I would guess that it is feeding incorrect
parameters to VDI.

Is there a later version of Maps & Legends which works with TOS 1.4?
Are Antic still around and supporting the ST in general and Maps &
Legends in particular? I lost contact with them when STart folded.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I should begin looking to
find and correct the problem?
-- 
Michael Evans                Telephone: +46-8-639 33 70
SEB Data R                         Fax: +46-8-639 37 62
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Sweden
From: jvance@maxwell.oac.uci.edu (Joachim Vance)
Subject: Re: AEO blows chunks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Keywords: chunks, on-line magazines
Date: 3 Oct 92 09:39:07 GMT
Distribution: usa

ugafence@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (UB FENCING CLUB) writes: 
> Atari Explorer Online was given 4 stars- one reason being they
>don't waste excessive space covering non-Atari related information
>(ala ST Report).
>* The final 2/5th's were an extensive statistical analysis of some moronic
>* Star Trek survey that had a sample size [on average] of -49- people.

  I must agree somewhat here.  As much as I *love* ST and TNG and the
article, I realized that there are plenty of people wondering why they
can't put more Atari coverage in there instead of space filler.
Between ST-Report and AEO and, say, Genie-Lamp (not a bad mag when I
see it), I could cut and paste together a darn good weekly magazine.
  As much as ST-Report has been (and still is somewhat) gossip, AEO
seems to be half fluff.  No Real substance half the time.  Less original
material.  Reprints, etc.  
  Yet, on the occasion that I read ST-Report, between some of the junk
and ads I find some *very* useful and interesting material.  And I
wonder, if AEO is supposed to be better, and ST-Report is supposed to
be sooo bad, why can't AEO have this useful Atari info.  I guess we
have no happy medium.

  Read all the electronic mags if you can get your hands on them.

--
Joachim Vance (The Underdog)
^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~
     I am antisesquipedalian--Opposed to the use of long words.
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From: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: HP deskjet and FirstWordPlus
Date: 4 Oct 1992 08:29:01 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Reply-To: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

>Is there somewhere a driver for FWP and HPdj500 which can handle this?
>Is it possible at all?
>Thanks
>John Janssen         Email: johnj@echo.philips.nl      <-- may stop soon(?)

From memory I did find a Driver for a DeskJet 500 on GEnie, I do have it some
were, mail me if you don't get any were in your search...

Roger.............                   sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st