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From: kdrolt@athena.mit.edu (Kenneth D Rolt)
Subject: Re: on that 68 continental, no manual, but that 460...
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 16:52:08 GMT

"4v" means 4 venturi. barrel is autospeak for a venturi, so
 4v carb = 4 barrel carb.
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From: milliganc@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: 10-Q from CADZILLA
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:07:34 GMT

Thanx for the info. on the dealers and magazines.  I know there were no
500's until '67 or '68.  However, Detroit Racing WAS (and maybe IS, I'm
trying to find out) a manufacturer of parts.  More than a couple Allards
in this country(USA) have aluminum 2-4 manifolds and I have at least one
hanging on the wall(one of our Allards came with the Chrysler hemi-long 
block and 4-2's).  Does any one know of pre-'59 Detroit parts?
			Happy Motoring,
				KILROY
From: adh@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Re: on that 68 continental, no manual, but that 460...
Date: 14 Oct 92 12:18:38 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1bfgasINNd3n@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
"              what exactly is a 460 4-v??? i get the 460=460cid..
"but what does the 4-v mean??

4v is/was a common notation for 4bbl, as in carb throats.

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From: plumpe@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Plumpe)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Re: Freeing stuck engine
Date: 8 Oct 92 11:05:16 GMT
Reply-To: plumpe@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Plumpe)
Distribution: na
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In alt.autos.antique, adh@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay) writes:
>In article <1992Oct7.131138.20556@cbfsb.cb.att.com> dkp@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (dav
>id.pearson) writes:
>"Does anyone out there recommend a specific oil or product that will aid in
>"the feeing of a stuck engine(ie - something that you can pour down the spark
>"plug openings?). Thanks in advance.
>
>kroil, from kano research laboratory.  you can find them advertised in
>machine design.  duno if they sell retail, though.
>
>i've heard of people who've used it (& thought it was great); dunno
>how they got it...
>
    Last month I finally tried Kroil for the first time on some rusted
nuts.  It worked at least as well as the penetrating oil I'd been using;
I need more experience to see if it's significantly better.  One aerosol
can of Kroil is $5.00 postpaid from:
    KANO Laboratories
    1058Q Thompson Lane
    Nashville, TN 37211

    They also have other products, and Kroil in larger (1 gallon?) lots.
 Their phone is 615-833-4101.

-DaveP
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique,rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
From: Steven.Schultz <Steven.Schultz@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: MG Midget parts for sale
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:50:06 GMT

A few years ago, I bought a '74 MG Midget as a parts car for a
project. I'm now working on that project, and as the Midget is in
terrible shape body wise, I'm taking off all the parts on the car that
are usable. The rest of the car I'll take to a junkyard. Anyway, I
don't need all the parts, so I've decided to sell them. I don't have a
list yet, but if there is a particular part(s) that you're looking for
please ask. I'll try to get a list posted soon, but if you need any
parts, please ask n. Thanks.

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Steve Schultz     Steven.Schultz@mixcom.com
From: ans0@aber.ac.uk (Austin Newton Shackles)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Re: Please Help
Date: 12 Oct 92 09:30:04 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth


[lots of questions slanted at an abortion/adoption etc enquiry deleted]

what the hell has this got to do with autos, antique or otherwise? has it been
sent to all the groups or what, and why?

personally, i don't read this group to fill in questionnaires about whether or
not i'm pro-life, pro-abortion, pro-anything in fact, nor about my political 
and/or religious affiliations.

i'm sure there are plenty of newsgroups where such things are discussed, no 
doubt ad nauseam. so my response is the same as if you'd come up to me in the 
street with a similar questionnaire: sorry, no.

personally i don't like questionnaires of this type, they are used to generate
statistics....:-)

<flame mode off>

obautobit: since rebuilding the engine of my vauxhall viva (1256cc) and after 
a few hundred miles to loosen up, it now goes much better, (i can even 
overtake...!). There's a nasty-sounding rattle from the front of the engine 
still, i think this might be the timing chain tensioner...still can't have 
everything...


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From: kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:13:40 GMT
Subject: Re: Please Help
Organization: HP Western Response Center
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique

Oops! My apologies for posting my previous "Please Help" survey to this
group. It was an honest mistake and won't happen again.

Kingsley
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: adh@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay)
Subject: Re: Freeing stuck engine
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 10:36:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.131138.20556@cbfsb.cb.att.com> dkp@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (david.pearson) writes:
"Does anyone out there recommend a specific oil or product that will aid in
"the feeing of a stuck engine(ie - something that you can pour down the spark
"plug openings?). Thanks in advance.

kroil, from kano research laboratory.  you can find them advertised in
machine design.  duno if they sell retail, though.

i've heard of people who've used it (& thought it was great); dunno
how they got it...

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From: rex@eng.umd.edu (Rex Root)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: CAR CLUBS
Date: 14 Oct 92 11:52:09 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park


I am attempting to get classic car insurance for my 61 Ford. The Insurance 
company requires that I be a member of a car club. Checking a few local clubs
I find that I must participate or help out in some of their activities.
I really don't have the time to give. 

My question:  Is there a national organization for Fords or to be more
specific, a Starliner or Victoria club any where that I could join?
From: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Re: 57ford-possible street rod?
Date: 13 Oct 1992 14:29:04 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


>anyone think an old ford (57-58) truck would make a good street rod?

dude...i don't think so, but i'm biased...actually, i just wanted to
tell you to refer to _Truckin'_ magazine published by (i think) 
McMillan(?) AT any rate, i know the title is correct, and they usually
feature at least one truck from the late fifties era in each mag..
so apparently many people are thinking that these trucks ARE great
street rods.  Check one out sometime.  They should be at newstands, tho
i don't know about ur area..but they are in each stand in my hometown.
good luck!!!
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Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us (Gerry Swetsky)
Subject: Re: Proposed change to rec. group
Keywords: (What's the diff?)  
Organization: Vpnet Public Access
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 01:33:08 GMT

In article <7OCT199210411582@sigma.tamu.edu> enw2049@sigma.tamu.edu (WALKE, ERIK N) writes:
>       I apologize for my ignorance (and this is likely a FAQ), but what
>       difference is there in making the current a.a.a group into a rec.
>       class newsgroup? 

    #1 The alt hierarchy is not Usenet.

    #2 Many sites do not receive alt.

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From: thos@suite.sw.oz.au (Thomas Cohen)
Subject: Re: Welding Again
Organization: Softway Pty Ltd
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:08:16 GMT

In <1992Oct13.162151.20079@walter.bellcore.com> mdl@oscar.bellcore.com (Mike Lynch) writes:


>I know this subject was recently discussed here, but I notice
>that the most recent Eastwood catalog is selling a non-MIG wire-feed
>welder.  The wire has a flux core.  The unit is 85-amp (110V, 20A

Well, it's sorta MIG, as the flux is supposed to boil off and provide
the same gas envelope until the weld solidifies.

>So, for those of you with more experience than I (and I have virtually
>none), my question is, just how much of a problem are drafts when using
>a MIG welder?

Well, if you're welding outside, it can be a problem, but the problem
can be fixed by some careful shielding of the work area. 

>I had just decided to buy a MIG welder when I got this catalog.  Now
>I'm uncertain again.  Should I go for just a MIG welder, or should I
>have it both ways and buy this unit with the flux-core wire capability?

Everything I've read suggests the gasless MIGs are a lot messier than
the normal MIGs. I have a normal MIG and lugging a 4-5' tall gas bottle
around can be a pain, but I could always buy/make a trolley. Other than
that there would be few advantages to the gasless one, plus the fact 
that the wire is much more expensive (over here in Oz at least).

regards,
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Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: cary@brahms.udel.edu (Cary J Spaulding)
Subject: 1955 T-BIRD FOR SALE!!!
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 23:52:14 GMT

My dad is trying to sell his 1955 Ford Thunderbird.  It is white with a
hard-top convertible.  Stick shift, two-seater, good condition.  He needs
to sell this car to pay my way through college.  

Interested?  Give Richard Spaulding a call at (908) 462-1774.


Thanks in advance for your interest!

Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: mark@wdcwdc.sps.mot.com (Mark Shaw)
Subject: Re: '66 Mustang 289 gas milage
Organization: Motorola Western MCU Design Center, Chandler Arizona
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 23:00:07 GMT

13-14.5 with a 289 on the highway does seem a bit low.  I had a '72
GMC van with a 350 that would get 18.  I don't remember what my '49
Ford or '52 MErc got (I was young and foolish (fuelish?) then).

What you didn't mention was the axle ration and whether you had
calibrated the speedo.  Moving to a larger tire size, or having 
the wrong drive pinion in the transmission speedo cable would be
a dramatic source of error.

Calibrate you odometer by driving at least 10 miles on a highway
with mileage markers and checl you readings.  The highway mile
posts are not very accurate from post-to-post, but are pretty
good over 10-15 of them.  Also, avoid using mileage posts that are
near bridges or other large objects (they sometimes just place them
at a convenient place near these!).

If your odo is correct, I wouldn't have a clue as to why you're 
getting about 4-5 mpg less.

Mark
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: "glen mead" <glen.mead@canrem.com>
Subject: for sale - 1964 merc
Reply-To: "glen mead" <glen.mead@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 11 Oct 92 18:48:27 EST

Hi All,

 My dad has the following car for sale:

 1964 Mercury Colony Park
 - 6 passenger station wagon
 - 1 of 386 made in Oakville, Ontario
 - Work done in the last year or so:
        - Gas tank fibreglassed
        - New exhaust (from the y-joint back)
        - New master cylinder
        - New brake fluid lines
        - New water pump
        - Plugs, wires, etc.
 - Last certified in April 1991.

 Asking $4500 or best offer.

 For more information, call Lionel at (416)278-8767.
 Please note: this in the Toronto, Ontario, Canada region.
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From: jimk@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: 67 charger blinker housing needed
Date: 10 Oct 92 17:07:21 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

Part needed:  Left front chrome blinker housing for a 1967 Dodge Charger

Jim Kennedy
Library Director
Buena Vista College
Storm Lake, Iowa 50588
From: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Re: on that 68 continental, no manual, but that 460...
Date: 13 Oct 1992 21:50:20 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


(still no editor...working...)
I just wonder, ummm...and pardon my ignorance on this particular
subject...but what exactly is a 460 4-v??? i get the 460=460cid..
but what does the 4-v mean?? i never heard of a four valve motor
from that time period (unless it was in some of the more exotic
racers of the time..but not a domestic production vehicle..) and
CERTAINLY it doesn't mean four cylinders in a v configuration???
does it?? at any rate.i'd like to hear more...
Andrew
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a new one sometime soon....
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: rocko@ireland.ssc.gov (Rick O'Leary)
Subject: Re: Emissions (Hank is cool)
Organization: 8-Track Museum of Technology
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:43:37 GMT

GO Hank GO !!!

Not bad but you really should have been more abrasive.

Well defended point.

Taken and noted.

I just hate when people post crap.

I obviously made a mistake. You DID think before posting.

My THANX for not weaseling out.

sorry

Rocko

Vote for Ross in spite of me.
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: mark@wdcwdc.sps.mot.com (Mark Shaw)
Subject: Re: Old Car Emissions (Update)
Organization: Motorola Western MCU Design Center, Chandler Arizona
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 04:02:24 GMT

In article (Bruce R. Miller) writes:
|> It just seems that every assumption you make has the effect of
|> inflating the emissions of older cars.
|> I think the issue is a straw man.

Anyone out there want to go get some data and prove the straw man
doesn't hold up?   If you cann't, how do you think we're going to
keep the folks in Washington from believing that their "straw man"
is not real?   

Personally, I think its time to get a national level piece of
legislation that defines and protects the priviledge of owning
and using (on a limited basis) an older car for one's personal
pleasure.  It's time we started to discriminate old car collectors
from those who simply exploit older cars to avoid local taxes,
higher insurance costs, tougher emissions tests, or save a buck.   

Of course, I could be wrong; and most of the people on this net may
be the latter.  I hope not!

Mark
From: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Re: Flat-Head V-8.  Opinions?
Date: 13 Oct 1992 14:48:06 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


You axed for opinions..so..here goes...
check the numbers...will you be wanting to resell this truck?  show
it? drive it?..if you want to preserve resale value..don't drive the
motor..especially if like to "get on it" time to time...resale is 
greater with matching rebuildable(if not running) numbers...so..if
you want to preserve resale, you won't want to grenade the orig.
on the other hand...if you want to show it or drive it VERY c
conservatively, i would run the flatty...you can't beat them for show
(they tend to be rarer and rarer..)...but don't tend to offer the
preformance for "Pro-streeting" it..and like i said, if you grenade
the orig....there's no replacement..no other numbers will match....
so..ur choice..my thoughts...Good Luck!!!
-- 
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a new one sometime soon....
From: cn09+@andrew.cmu.edu (Christopher Kalevi Nuuja)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Info on 56 Merc. montclair
Date: 11 Oct 92 23:35:11 GMT
Organization: Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


   I'm considering buying a restored 56 Mercury Montclair and am trying to
find out what its really worth.  The body and interior are in excellent shape.
It has a 312 (original miles unknown), automatic, power trunk (?).  On a quick
inspection, no rust.  Paint job looks great (black and pink), could be recent.
The body's been customized, but I couldn't tell how as I
don't know what one looks like uncustomized.  Asking price is 6800.
The owner claims I could sell it for 10,000 in California (where I could be
moving soon).  Is this reasonable?  I would think that a CA car would be worth
more here in Pittsburgh, since relatively rust free cars are rarer here.
Why would it be worth more in CA?  (The owner's idea: "They like cars like this
a lot more out there").
I'd be grateful for any information on this car, as well as any opinions on
a reasonable price.

Chris Nuuja
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: rsch2883@cl2.cl.uh.edu (Otterstad, Erik/PLEDGER, RAY)
Subject: 56 Pontiacs
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Reply-To: RSCH2883@cl.uh.edu
Organization: University of Houston - Clear Lake
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 01:17:00 GMT
From: barnhill@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Route 66 Kicks...\
Date: 12 Oct 92 09:04:14 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

	If there are folks in the KCK or KCMO area interested in participating
in the Route 66 anniversary celebration, I'll be glad to pass on what I know.
If anyone from any of the Corvette Clubs locally has information, I'd ap-
preciate it.  My info. is from my other hat as a British Car enthusiast, but
I'm planning on driving my 'vette in this case.  Federal Law dictates that
if you have one, and you're driving on Route 66, you don't have no choice,
nohow, contrawise.
	db

David Barnhill
Barnhill@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu

Oh -- it's 10-18 for the local segment of the drive, KS-MO.
From: jsamuels@lawlab_2.vill.edu (Jeffrey Samuelson)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Re: Jags? - Well Mk II's at least
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:00:13 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Villanova University Law School

In article <PVA.92Oct7113956@lesti.hut.fi> pva@lesti.hut.fi (Pekka A Valtonen) writes:

>       Hello,

>       I was wondering if theres any Jaguar fans reading this group?
>       Or if theres a mailing list for Jaguars or British cars in 
>       general, I would like to join in.

>       I'm particularly interested on Jaguar Mk2, since I'm restoring one.
>       Also interested on specialist Jaguar spares companies in the US.

>                                               Thanks.


Hei,

As far as specialist Jag dealers, there is a place called the Great 
Britains outside Philadelphia.  I'll try and find their address and pass 
it on.  off the top, your best bet would be to get hold of a copy of 
Hemmings Motor News and look through that.  Groups and parts suppliers 
should be list under J?  Its been a while.

As far as your MkII is concerned, I wish you luck and enjoyment.  I consider 
it the most elegant sport sedan I have ever seen.  Way ahead of 
its time etc..provided its the 3.8.


Is it getting cold up there yet?  I've friends in Jyvskyl and am 
visiting this Spring.  Send me your address and I'll come over and 
complement you on your Jag and bring some back issues of Hemmings.

  

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From: meganb@sequent.com (Megan Breninger)
Subject: Chevelle owner here!!!
Summary: someone asked about El Caminos and Chevelle's...
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 19:23:37 GMT

My co-owned, 1968 Chevelle Malibu, daily driver, will be on
display at the Northwest Classic Car show in Portland, Oregon
at the Expo Center on October 17th and 18th.  I co-own the
car with my Mom, who is 71, and purchased the car brand new
in 1968.  It has been her ONLY form of transportation since
1968!!!

It is maroon with black interior and has a 307 engine.  All
stock, nearly!  (Carpet on the back window ledge and in the
trunk.  New paint several years ago, but original color.)

The hood will be up, and you will be able to tell that this
truely is just a "family car".  It is garaged nightly, tho.

The show goes from, I believe, 8 to 6 on Saturday, and 8 to 5
on Sunday.  The admission is fairly cheap, if I remember right.
If you need more specific info, like directions and whatnot,
I'll bring my paperwork in tomorrow and email you directly.

Hope to see you there!

Megan, Larry, Clyde, Edgar, Hank, Mom and "Mali", the beautiful
1968 Malibu.
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique