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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Anyone gotten the DOS Hardcard driver to load in an external DOS box?
Date: 9 Jan 93 01:03:12 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <widow.726377069@camelot> widow@camelot.bradley.edu (Shaun Burnett) writes:
>	In order to make my external DOS box complete, I need to be
>	able to load the Hardcard driver so that I can write to the
>	Hardcard partition.
>	However, the driver bombs out with a bios conflict at a
>	particular address (CA000).  I've tried to exclude the region
>	needed by the Hardcard in DOS Settings, emm386.sys and
>	hidos.sys (DRdos driver).  However, the problem still occurs.
>	Anyone have any suggestions aside from playing "musical
>	chairs" with the BIOS address dip switch settings.  I doubt
>	that will work tho'.
>	I'm using the GA + SPP version.

You don't want (or need) to do that.  The OS/2 Hardcard driver
provides all the support you need for these specific DOS sessions and
DOS emulated sessions.  In your specific DOS sessions, just make sure
that you're using the \OS2\MDOS\FSFILTER.SYS device driver in your
CONFIG.SYS.  Copy the file to your boot floppy, and list it as the
first device driver in CONFIG.SYS.

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From: schepers@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Peter Schepers)
Subject: Re: Icons in windows continually offset
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:48:53 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.170553.11738@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan9.161425.23855@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> bross@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Brian J Ross) writes:
>
>>Also, is it possible to move an icon over a little bit in Os/2?
>>When I try it, it gives an illegality symbol, as it assumes you are
>>trying to move the icon to itself.
>
>No.  This feature has been hotly debated.  I'm not sure which approach
>I like better.
>
>IBM set things up this way to prevent the accidental movement of
>icons.  It can be frustrating in other environments to have your icons
>"drift" a bit if you accidentally hold down a mouse button while
>moving the mouse.
>
>To move an icon a little bit, first move it well away from its
>original location, then move it back to where you want it to go (two
>step process).
>


Actually, you can move icons over a little at a time. Here's how...

Instead if clicking in the middle of the icon, click on the side facing the
direction you want to move it (have the mouse pointer right on the edge of
the icon, or text, depending on where you want to move the icon). Now drag
the icon, and voila, since the pointer is now no longer over the old icon
position, it lets you drop the icon.

So it seems that if you want to drag the icon, and you have selected it by
dragging it from the middle of the icon, until the pointer moves off of
the old icon position, you cannot drop it. But by grabbing it from the
side, the pointer will go off the old icon position almost right away,
allowing you much finer icon movement.

Hope this helps you people in netland.

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From: jverreau@sol.uvic.ca (John Verreault)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Latest Word From ATI
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:34:02 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: UVic -- School of Business

I just got a reply from ATI's support line on Compuserve.  It clears up a
few things and opens up a whole raft of new questions:

>The situation on OS/2 drivers is this:  our existing drivers do not work with >the GA and latest SP.  We are currently patching those drivers for our mach32
>products and will release them this quarter.  The new set of 32-bit drivers >will be available in the second quarter.  8514/a drivers can be used for now >offering accelerated 1024x768/256 colours.  
>
>IBM is currently working on VGA drivers.  They have released drivers for ATI >cards in the beta drop of version 2.1, we're hoping they'll be included in the >release as well.  I hope this addresses your concerns.  We'll be posting beta >releases of the drivers we're developing on CompuServe as soon as we can.  >Thanks for your interest and comments.

John Verreault          jverreau@sol.uvic.ca
University of Victoria, School of Business, Victoria, BC, Canada
From: clemens@faui8a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Clemens Beckstein)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: TEXEL 5024 OS/2 Drivers??? PAS/16...
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:48:22 GMT
Organization: Regionales Rechenzentrum Erlangen
NNTP-Posting-Host: faui8a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de

mpearson@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Matthew Pearson) writes:

>I have a PAS 16 sound card....

>And have ordered the Texel 5024 (or is it 3024... whatever.. the 265ms
>one..) CDROM unit...

>Does the mediavision PAS-16 come with device drivers for this sucker? or
>are they included in the SCSI cable kit.. which I also ordered..

well, I think the problem is not the 5024 (there are CDROM drivers for
Adaptec, IBM SCSI and Future Domain adapters in OS2CDROM.ZIP on hobbes
and software.watson.ibm.com which are working just fine).  You need
SCSI drivers for the PAS-16 SCSI interface --- which at least to my
knowledge --- are not available yet...

>Otherwise.. what driver can I use to use the CDROM under os/2 on the
>PAS-16 SCSI interface???

Do you have another SCSI host adapter in you machine? This would solve
the problem if you connect the CD-ROM to on eof them...

- Clemens
From: caa@Unify.Com (Chris A. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Detach command.
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:14:34 GMT
Reply-To: caa@unify.com (Chris Anderson)
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: Unify Corporation, Sacramento, California

In article <1993Jan08.075225.9277@kub.nl> hoppie@kub.nl (Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers) writes:
> Eh? I always thought that being able to push a running UNIX process in the background
> with Ctrl-Z and call it back later with FG, together with the BG and JOBS commands,
> were UNIX *shell* commands, and thus implemented by the shell, not by the UNIX
> kernel?!? If I'm wrong, please tell me.

There's two fundamental things going on here.  Unix stops a process from
executing by sending it a SIGSTOP and starts it up again by issuing a 
SIGCONT -- that has to be implemented in the kernel.  The fg/bg just 
removes the controlling terminal.  So, you need to have the ability to
stop and continue a process built into the kernel for the job-control
commands that csh has to work.

> In this case, just get an OS/2 port of a csh of some kind that has job control built-in.
> I know that OS/2 has more types of sessions than UNIX, but without job control in the
> shell, it wouldn't work anyway. If you just run OS/2 text mode aps, I can imagine the
> shell arbitrating console access easily. And running other (PM) jobs from a shell
> does not need BG/FG switching -- being an PM app.

Well, you'd need a different concept of signals, the idea of a pty, and
no classification of processes under OS/2.  That would change OS/2
completely.

Chris
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From: rahayden@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (R Andrew Hayden)
Subject: Re: I hear Tim Sipples is not a human but a futuristic ....
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:03:40 GMT

lestrade@Ra.MsState.Edu (John Patrick Lestrade) writes:

>I suspect he is a futuristic computer android connected to Internet by
>an advanced alien society.  Should we thank them? --  hmmmm.

Actually, he works for the military.  His name is Lt. Cmdr. Beta.

He is the "beta" for "Data" :-)

(BTW:  Tim, thanks for all of your wisdom on this list)

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mortenk@dhhalden.no (MORTEN KNUDSEN)
Subject: Re: What does the service pack do??????
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:50:46 GMT

In article <s_fuller.726789971@vincent2.iastate.edu> s_fuller@iastate.edu (Steve Fuller) writes:
>From: s_fuller@iastate.edu (Steve Fuller)
>Subject: What does the service pack do??????
>Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:06:11 GMT
>What does the service pack do??? Do I need to install it or can I
>get by running a vanilla copy of 2.1b?????
>
What does the SP do? I'm not sure. I think it replaces some of the old 
bugs with some new ones and enables you to run hires and 256cols. It 
also replaces the fast 16bit GRE with a new slow 32bit GRE, resulting 
in approx the same performance. 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: lyle@netcom.com (Lyle Fong)
Subject: How do I set up Boot Manager correctly to access DOS Partitions?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:33:32 GMT

I would like to be able to see my DOS partition from within OS/2 (HPFS)
Currently, my partitions are set up so BOOTMANAGER is 1, OS/2 (PRIMARY)
is 2, and DOS (also PRIMARY) is 3.. should they be set to LOGICAL drives
instead of primary? etc.. any help appreciated..

Lyle

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: HELP!! Can't boot OS/2 -- SOLUTION!
From: ghdai@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: 8 Jan 93 23:50:39 CST
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
NNTP-Posting-Host: vax1.umkc.edu

>I just turned my machine on and selected OS/2 from the Boot Manager Menu.
>It boots up fine, does the chkdsk thing (My machine crashed last night!) and
>everything seems to work.
>Right after chkdsk the machine hangs with the following:
>
>The system detected an internal processing
>error at location ##0f00:141e-0002:141e
>65536, 9051
>CPS: Extent not found.
>038600d1
>Internal revision 6.412, 92/06/02

This is probably due to corrupted OS2.INI or OS2SYS.INI.  And I have had
the experience that many of similar unclear such messages are due just to
the corruption of the INI files.

The method to cure the problems are to follow the instruction described in
the README file in the root directory of the installed OS/2 partition.  So,
when your machine works normally, print out the file and make the copy handy.
If it is not available now, do not panic.  Boot OS/2 using the Installation
diskette and Disk 1 (don't go ahead to install; at proper position, press
ESC key), then insert Disk 2 in drive A, at prompt A>, type CHKDSK C: /F:3
(":3" is preferred because it does a more careful check and sometimes doing
check disk without ":3" won't solve problem thoroughly.).  Be patient until
the work is done.  If you have another partition or drive, do the same.

Now you can access C: and can print out README.  Follow the instruction on
recovering the INI files, you have best chance to bring OS/2 back to correct
track.


Guohuan H. Dai
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From: friesend@jester.usask.ca (Darryl Friesen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Help with Shadow Text Color/Font
Date: 9 Jan 1993 17:46:17 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
NNTP-Posting-Host: jester.usask.ca
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]


I've run accross an interesting problem that I hope someone can shed
some light on.  Using the scheme palette I can successfully change the
color of both the Icon Text and Shadow Text, but NOT the font (at least 
not in the way I want to).  Specifically, I want both the Icon Text and
Shadow Text to be black (easy enough to do), but I want the Shadow text
to be Italicized (like a Mac alias).  I find that it is easier to 
destinquish between objects and shadows of objects that way. HOWEVER,
when I select Shadow Text in the scheme palette, then Font... and change
the font to Italic, the font for ALL objects changes.  I don't understand
why OS/2 would keep color info seperate, but not font info, especially 
when the scheme provodes the Font option for both Icon Text and Shadow
Text. Is it possible somehow to this or not?


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friesenda@sask.usask.ca   | University of Saskatchewan
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rogoff@netcom.com (Carolyn Rogoff David Rogoff)
Subject: A few OS/2 WPS question
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:13:12 GMT

Hi,
 
I've got a couple of OS/2 2.0 questions for the group:

1)  shadows vs links:  Shadow objects in WPS seem to serve the same
function as Unix soft links (ln -s).  However, shadows are only visible
to WPS's own pseudo file system.  If you shadow an object it does not
appear with dir in a shell.  It is not even visible from settings notebook.
Here's what I was trying to do:  I have a lot of bitmaps.  I want to be able
to use them as background/lockup screens, so they want to be in c:\os2\bitmap.
I don't want (or have room on c:) to put lots of foreign stuff on c:, so I
tried shadowing the files, but as I said before, they don't show up in the
settings notebook.

Is there A) an equivalent to Unix ln,  B) some variable/path I can set to
tell OS/2 to look for bitmaps somewhere else?

2)  Another WPS question:  I'm trying to get most of the icons off my
screen by using menu items in WPS.  I'm used to this anyway from using
Suns.  The program doesn't seem to be run the same as if I started it from
the icon.  Example:  I have an icon that starts gnuemacs.  I opened the
WPS settings notebook, chose menu, chose new entry, typed gnuemacs as the
name, and used find/locate and selected the icon that I normally use to
start it.
 
However, when I use the menu item, there are apparently arguements being sent
to the application.  Emacs starts up and complains that it can't find file
OS2 ! System (whatever it's called).
 
What's going on?
 
3)  Is there a port of Unix sort or equivelent? 
 
 
Many thanks,

 
     David 


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  rogoff@netcom.com
    Synthesizers, birds, armour, OS/2 etc.
From: jdh@email.sp.paramax.com (John Hatlestad)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: tri32new.zip & ATI Ultra
Date: 9 Jan 1993 00:00:16 -0600
Organization: Paramax -  Eagan, MN
NNTP-Posting-Host: email.sp.paramax.com

Help!

I am trying to get the drivers in the file "tri32new.zip" from
ftp-os2 to work with my ATI Ultra with no success.  Up to now, I have
been using the standard 8514 drivers supplied with os2.  I have
installed the service pack and am running the 32-bit graphics engine.

I have tried a number of times to install these (carefully following
Steve Withers' ammended instructions), but when I reboot, I 
get a blank screen.  On one iteration, os2 printed an error message
(maybe it was error #355?) about incompatible display driver or VIO, or
some such when WPS should have come up.  Other iterations have produced 
a blank screen with an underline cursor in the upper left, and with 
c000005 in the upper left.  In all cases a power-down boot was
required.

Questions:

Is it worth the bother for ATI Ultra owners who aren't really chomping at the
bit for seamless win-os2 drivers?  Will the performance be better or
worse than with the 8514 drivers?  I am currently experiencing
intolerably slow scrolling in PMX xterm windows and wanted to try these
drivers to see if it would improve.

These drivers are supposed to work with the Ultra, aren't they?

I tried installing them right over the 8514 driver with no success, then
went back and installed the standard vga drivers, and tried to install
these svga drivers on top of that, with the same result.  I also tried the
svga option in the os2 selective install, hoping to install the tri32new
drivers over whatever svga drivers come with os2+sp, hoping this step
would at least get my config.sys mostly right.  When I tried to install
the os2+sp drivers the selective install program printed an error
message about not being configured to install "%s" (sic), before asking
for the device driver disks.

How much mucking around with config.sys, etc., is required?  I changed
that line with "......(bvhvga)" to ......(bvhvga,bvhsvga), and I changed
the reference to vvga into a reference to vsvga.

Should I just be patient and wait for IBM to do a 32-bit 8514 driver,
or for ATI to do a 32-bit driver for the Ultra? 
Will such drivers be available in os2 2.1?

Correspondence with someone who has gotten this to work (perhaps
containing appropriate config.sys statements, etc.) would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks,
John Hatlestad
jdh@email.sp.paramax.com
From: songer@lexmark.com (Christopher Songer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: TeX for OS/2
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:39:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Lexington, KY
X-Disclaimer: These views are the poster's and not necessarily those of Lexmark


Hi!

     Is anyone aware of a TeX package for OS/2? Email replies
appreciated!

Thanks!
-Chris
songer@lexmark.com
From: zorrilla@cattell.psych.upenn.edu (Eric Zorrilla)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: [SCSI Tape Backup???]
Date: 8 Jan 93 06:04:03 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I'm looking for feedback on what SCSI tape backups people have successfully
used with OS/2 2.X and what software they have used as their backup
mechanism.  I understand that Sytos appears to be the commercial choice and
gtak appears to be the shareware (freeware?) avenue.  However, I would
like more information about either product (unattended backups? compression?
range of hardware devices supported, etc?)

On the hardware side, I would be interested in a backup of at least 250
megs as I currently have 810 megs of hard disk space and may be expanding
shortly.
 

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From: unruh@physics.ubc.ca (William Unruh)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: ftp-os2 taken down?
Date: 12 Jan 1993 01:53:20 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: comp
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.ubc.ca

joker@diku.dk (Morten Christian Holmgreen) writes:

]shabby@Athena.MIT.EDU (Chris Shabsin) writes:

]>Has ftp-os2.nmsu.edu been taken down because of the beta being on it?

]Well, I'm uable to connect to it, too. However I think it's because
]people are dowloading the beta. Taken down??? I most certainly hope not.

No response to ping. It seems to be down.
From: lowey@jester.usask.ca (CrazyMan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 Beta: Swapper.dat and Auto Chkdsk
Date: 6 Jan 1993 19:18:27 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
NNTP-Posting-Host: jester.usask.ca
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

Robert Gammon (5692330@mcimail.com) wrote:

: I just added a CD-ROM to my system, and I have had to do hard resets.  No,
: chkdsk runs BEFORE CDROM IFS is installed.  HPFS.IFS is the FIRST line in
: my config.sys, CDROM.IFS is on line 91, cdrom.sys is on line 27, and BASEDEV
: for my SCSI adapter is on line 42 (the CD-ROM is the only thing attached to
: SCSI).

One thing to keep in mind about the CONFIG.SYS file is that it isn't always
read in order.  For example, I think the BASEDEV device drivers are loaded
before other device drivers. The Redbooks discussed this in detail, but it 
has been a while since I read it so I'm a bit fuzzy on the details.

Some of the other lines are order dependant.  For example, the order of the 
mouse drivers and the COM drivers are important.

- Kevin Lowey (Lowey@Sask.USask.CA)
>>>>> Anonymous FTP to FTP.USASK.CA for DOS, OS/2, and Windows programs <<<<<
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: More CD-ROM questions.
Date: 4 Jan 93 23:01:41 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Dec30.144439.8217@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> cjones@nyx.cs.du.edu (Charles J. Jones) writes:
>When I cold-boot the system, after the OS/2 title screen, the config.sys
>reports "No SCSI devices found".  The SCSI driver (for a FD 850) has been 
>correctly loaded, but for some reason it can't find the CD-ROM on the SCSI 
>chain.  Now if I immediately shutdown and warm-boot then the driver finds 
>the drive just fine!  So something is initializing something else somewhere.

I've known a few CD-ROM drives that would return this error unless a
disc was loaded at boot time.  So we'd always have a disc in the
drive, in order to ensure a successful boot.  This wasn't a problem
under DOS, since the MSCDEX drivers would try to access the drive
whether it was ready or not.

I'm not sure which I prefer! :-)


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: HELP!! Can't boot OS/2!
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:12:50 GMT

In article <C0GIsL.GLu@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> ychung@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Young Chung) writes:
>I just turned my machine on and selected OS/2 from the Boot Manager Menu.
>It boots up fine, does the chkdsk thing (My machine crashed last night!) and
>everything seems to work.
>Right after chkdsk the machine hangs with the following:
>The system detected an internal processing
>error at location ##0f00:141e-0002:141e
>65536, 9051
>CPS: Extent not found.
>038600d1
>Internal revision 6.412, 92/06/02
>Now my machine set up.
>386-33 with 8MB memory.
>Tseng4000 SVGA (using VGA driver).
>C: 100Mb Quantum IDE (FAT, Primary, DOS5/4dos installed, Boot Manager)
>D: 80Mb Maxtor IDE (HPFS, Primary, OS/2 2.0)
>SoundBlaster Pro (IRQ 7) [I never had problem with this before.]
>Internal 2400 Modem at COM2.
>How it crashed last night.
>I just installed xfeel and seemed to work fine.  I also used UWPC in
>DOS box.  It crashed when I ran The Incredible Machine from Sierra in DOS
>full-screen mode.

This CPS: Extents problem is fixed with the file uhpfs.zip, available
via anonymous ftp from software.watson.ibm.com.

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From: lyle@netcom.com (Lyle Fong)
Subject: 8mb RAM to 12mb or 16mb RAM significant difference?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:25:48 GMT

I'm currently running OS/2 on a 486/25sx.. with 8 mb RAM.. I am thinking
of upgrading to either 12 mb or 16 mb of RAM.  How significant will the
difference be?  Will it be more significant than an upgrade to 
a 486/33dx?

Thanks

Lyle

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