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From: enf1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Eric Fischer)
Subject: Re: Asides in Fab songs (was Elmore James & George)
Reply-To: enf1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:59:41 GMT

Yet another way to cancel the stereo channels, an the easiest if you have
the proper equipment, is to to set the turntable for vertical (Edison-style)
grooves instead of ordinary, lateral grooves.  Granted, most turntables
don't have this option, but if yours does, this works very well.  I use the
speaker wire method myself, installing a switch between the ground on the
amp and the ground wire from the speakers so that when the switch is open,
the two speakers are connected in series between the left and right outputs.

By the way, does anyone know of a CD player which has a feature of this sort?
Since CDs are numerical to begin with, it seems natural to do mathematical
transformations on the signal while it's still in digital form instead of
cheating the signal with trickery like the above.

Eric Fischer
enf1@ellis.uchicago.edu
From: flippant@woodowl.UUCP (Tom Levesque)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Beatles Lyrics
Date: 23 Aug 92 17:47:30 GMT
Organization: Woodowl, Livermore CA

Someone mentioned looking for a package of beatles lyrics for D&D
 
Anyway, I've got a book full of them that shouldn't be hard to find.
 
The Beatles Illustrated Lyrics - By Aldridge
 
A book full of artwork based on beatles songs, and most of their lyrics. I'm 
sure someone somewhere knows of a beatles song that isn't in the book but
it looks like their basic released material is all covered. 
 
Tom

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From: bh@anarres.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Brian Harvey)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Welcome - final
Date: 30 Aug 1992 19:50:36 GMT
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: anarres.cs.berkeley.edu

jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John J. Wood) writes:
>Michal Szleper spews... 
                ^^^^^

That's a nice friendly welcome!

>>Frankly, I don't understand many of your advanced topics, like
>>"Is there D7 or E7 in *Strawberry Fields*", or "Does Paul's
>>voice crack badly in the second 'love in vain'".
> 
>Then, Michal, I don't know if this is the newsgroup for you -- I've
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>*always* enjoyed reading those discussions.  This newsgroup is for
>beatles fans, hardcore and new.      

Not very welcoming, either.  I, for example, am not a guitarist, and
the posts concerning chords go right over my head.  So I type 'n' for
those.  But I don't think that that makes me ineligible to read the
newsgroup, or even to post to it about something I know about.

I do not mean to take sides with Michal against Saki.  But maybe I am
taking sides with Michal against John.  The famous rmb spirit of calm
and friendly discussion is not exemplified well by responding to an
angry message with "same to you, fella!"

I can easily understand how Michal might have interpreted Saki's remark
about not posting before reading the FAQ as insulting.  I didn't interpret
it that way, but it's not an absurd thought.  His response then seems to
have gotten a lot of other people all defensive.  Chill out, gang!
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From: hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987)
Subject: Re: Guitar: Demo version of SFF
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 07:11:10 GMT

Bob Clements (clements@bbn.com) wrote:
: 
: That is an amazing room, by the way.  There are original manuscripts
: by Bach, Mozart, Verdi, and Stravinsky as well as MacLen.  Two of
: the surviving copies of the Magna Carta are there,  Letters by
: Queen Victoria, Churchill, TSEliot... And that's in just a few of
: the display cases in ONE room.  The Gutenberg Bible is in the next
: room, and across the foyer is the Rosetta Stone (which I actually
: touched! :-)
: 
: Bob Clements, K1BC, clements@bbn.com

Where is this place?  How do I visit?  Sounds like an AMAZING collection.
Can I have it?
--

Dave Hinz  -  Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.  Obviously.
hinzd@picard.med.ge.com
From: jwlr@gauguin.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Ringo & Hollywood Bowl....
Date: 2 Sep 92 05:03:01 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Sep1.200625.8292@math.ucla.edu> dmac@julia.math.ucla.edu (saki) writes:

>EMI has no current plans to release the Hollywood Bowl album on CD,
>for reasons that remain unclear. They could have decided that it's
>not marketable, not profitable, or not worth the tangle over copyrights.
>I'm not certain but I believe the remaining Fabs must okay such releases.

Maybe they can't figure out how to eliminate that nasty background noise?
I-)	I-)	I-)

				James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
From: flippant@woodowl.UUCP (Tom Levesque)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Guitar Chords / A Day In The Life
Date: 25 Aug 92 06:49:27 GMT
Organization: Woodowl, Livermore CA

I'm interested in finding out what the opening guitar chords are for "A Day 
In The Life". On the version on Sgt. Peppers, it 
is difficult to hear the accoustic guitar that begins the song. But if you 
listen to the version on John Lennon's "Imagine: John Lennon, Music from the 
Original Motion Picture" soundtrack.. YOu can very clearly hear the opening  
guitar chords. But not having a well trained ear, I cannot tell exactly what 
the finger positions are. So if someone can e-mail me the chords I would 
highly appreciate it.
 
On another note, does anyone know of a version of "Revolution" made like the 
single version (lots of guitar distortion) that would include a count in the 
opening? The first time I heard it on the radio there was a count like that. 
You might suspect the D.J. did it, but it didn't sound like that at all (I 
recorded it on tape at the time, and it's not the dj's voice). So I'm 
wondering if he simply has a hard to find version... perhaps an early 
release to radio' stations (The station was WPST in the New Jersey/Penn. 
area)
 
Flippant Tommy

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From: gdridle@pbhya.PacBell.COM (Guy D. Ridley)
Subject: Re: Harrison original or cover?
Reply-To: gdridle@PacBell.COM (Guy D. Ridley)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:51:35 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.053341.7321@menudo.uh.edu> edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen) writes:
>>
>>Yes, the song is a cover.  It was a relatively obsure pop tune by some
>>group in the 60's, if I remember correctly.
>>
>
>The man's name was Rudy Clark, and he was indeed
>fairly obscure.   For the record, the original version of the song is
>very different then George's, and George did a wonderful job of re-arranging
>the rather meandering tune into a good, tight rock song.  
 
In a radio interview shortly after the release, George, who is fielding calls
and discussing the latest album (Cloud Nine?) "tells" Rudy that "we had to
take out the screaming girls" (or words to that effect).  Then they played
the original.  *Very* different.  The screaming girls was a whole different
bridge section, that in restrospect does seem irrelevant.  But who
knows, if Rudy had hung around John & Paul all those years, he might've
picked up a bit more about arranging.
 
This interview has been bootlegged.
 
Guy Ridley
pacbell!pbhya!gdridle
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From: erich@microsoft.com (Eric Hanchrow)
Subject: Re: Asides in Fab songs (was Elmore James & George)
Date: 03 Sep 92 04:17:12 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Keywords: stereo,speakers,channel

In `Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da', after Paul sings "Desmond lets the children
lend a hand" for the second time, somebody calls out "Foot".  Also,
after the second time he sings "...have built a home sweet home", somebody
says "Home.  Aitch Oh Em Ee."  I always assumed the voice was John.

By the way, the comments are very difficult to hear; I've found that
if (with the stereo version) I break the ground wire to my headphones,
or disconnect the speakers and reconnect just one speaker, with one lead
going into the left "hot" plug, and the other going into the right
"hot" plug, that I can hear all sorts of things that aren't discernable
normally.  This is because I'm now listening to the difference between
the two channels -- anything that appears on both the right and
left channels with equal volume just "cancels out", and lets
me hear all sorts of fun stuff that would otherwise be obscured.
The "Sgt. Pepper" reprieve reveals a lot that way too.

Note: If you try this with speakers (as opposed to headphones), don't
turn the amp up too loud -- it might hurt the output transistors.
-- 
The above opinions are my own; I do not speak for Microsoft.
Eric Hanchrow		erich@microsoft.com 
(206)-936-8913		One Microsoft Way Redmond, WA 98052-6399
Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- write for details.
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Monday, 31 Aug 1992 16:47:49 EDT
From: <BFANTLE@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Elmore James & George
 <16854CCF3.RJS@USLVM.USL.EDU>

It was 'Yer Blues' from the Let it Be album/film.  He refers to John's slide pl
aying.  Interesting that John plays slide before George gets into it.

barry
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From: galuska@oz.asel.udel.edu (Scott Galuska)
Subject: Unsurpassed Masters (was Re: Elmore James & George)
Organization: AI duPont Institute
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:02:41 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.173702.25912@brtph560.bnr.ca> n5ppm264 (Charlie Board) 
>
>Also, I recently posted asking for track listings and/or comments on the
>"Unsurpassed Masters" series of boots. I'm sure you all thought that there
>was no need to respond since someone else would :). well, no one else did-
>so feel free to email any info to the address below. All help will be
>appreciated!

I'm not going to post the track listings here (Charlie, I'll e-mail them...),
but in this person's opinion they are preferrable to the Ultra Rare Trax 
series in that the sound quality is every bit as good, and you get 75%-100%
more music per CD (around 60 minutes per UM vs approx 35 minutes per URT).

At a minimum, get the first 5 in the series and the Unsurpassed Demos (run up
that credit card! :-)).  UM 1-5 are in chronological order (i.e. Vol. 1 has
1962 & 1963, Vol. 2 has 64-65, etc.)- this is helpful if you are only 
interested in a certain recording era (for example, the Abbey Road outtakes
are on Vol. 5).  The URT's tend to mix songs from different sessions/eras.  

However, if you already have the URT's you probably have most of the material
here.  Also, the strict chronological breakdown ends at Vol. 5- UM6 & UM7
have material from all eras (if memory serves).

Unsurpassed Demos are demos from the White Album, and includes demos of 
solo-era songs like "Singalong Junk" ("Junk" from _McCartney_), "Not Guilty"
(from _Geroge Harrison_? or was that _33 1/3_?), "Circles" ("Colliding 
Circles" from _Gone Troppo_) and "Child Of Nature" ("Jealous Guy" from
_Imagine_).  And you get an acoustic version of "What's The New Mary Jane?"!

There is also an _Unsupassed Acetates_, which I don't know much about...
-- 
Scott Galuska
Dept. of Computer & Info. Science        "There's no crying in baseball!"
Univ of Delaware
galuska@asel.udel.edu
From: kp@cc.uow.edu.au (Karen Pepper)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: More on silly books
Date: 28 Aug 92 05:20:48 GMT
Organization: University Of Wollongong

bad@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes) writes:

>In article <1992Aug27.023613.17450@menudo.uh.edu> edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen) writes:
>>   Albert Goldman and Frederic Seaman have teamed up again to write an 
>>unauthorized biography of Yoko Ono. 

>So, the dynamic duo are at it again, eh?

>Well, I'm amazed that Goldman finally has gotten the nerve to pick on
>someone who's still alive (and can sue)......

... or can she ? As I understand it, it is very hard for someone
who can be classified as a "public figure" to sue for defamation
in the US, which is where the largest single market for such
a book would be (..."free speech" and all that). You'll notice
that no-one has sued Kitty Kelly, despite the fact that her
subjects are alive and her claims are often as dubious (Nancy
Reagan having an affair with Frank Sinatra, etc.)


-- 
* Karen Pepper                  *                                     *
* Moth Wrangler and Stylist     *  " Fingite me mortuum esse. Dicite  *
*                               *    aliquid belli. "                 *
* kp@wampyr.cc.uow.edu.au       *                        - Petronius  *
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From: drraymon@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Darrell Raymond)
Subject: Re: Inane question re: _Yellow Submarine_
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 12:27:18 GMT

 In <1992Sep3.235745.13192@pellns.alleg.edu> mccombj@alleg.edu (Joseph McCombs) writes:
> 
>2) What in the world was the characters' name?

  And what was the name of the Big Blue Meanie's chief "lieutenant",
the one who, when the meanies are defeated, and the chief says, "what
will we do (insert-name-here), where will we go?", he says:

	"Argentina?"  
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: timster@brahms.udel.edu (Timothy P Brennan)
Subject: Harrison original or cover?
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 18:03:01 GMT

I made a bet with my friend the other day for a cheeseburger on whether
or not the song "Got My Mind Set on You" which Harrison did a few years
back was a cover or written by Harrison.  If anybody knows please email
(I'm hungry).  Also, if it was a cover, who did the original?

Thanks
Tim        timster@brahms.udel.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 3 Sep 1992 11:22:33 CDT
From: John Schulien <U21187@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Asides in Fab songs (was Elmore James & George)
 <1992Sep03.041712.26402@microsoft.com>

In article <1992Sep03.041712.26402@microsoft.com>, erich@microsoft.com (Eric
Hanchrow) says:
>By the way, the comments are very difficult to hear; I've found that
>if (with the stereo version) I break the ground wire to my headphones,
>or disconnect the speakers and reconnect just one speaker, with one lead
>going into the left "hot" plug, and the other going into the right
>"hot" plug, that I can hear all sorts of things that aren't discernable
>normally.  This is because I'm now listening to the difference between
>the two channels -- anything that appears on both the right and
>left channels with equal volume just "cancels out", and lets
>me hear all sorts of fun stuff that would otherwise be obscured.
>The "Sgt. Pepper" reprieve reveals a lot that way too.

You can get the same effect by reversing the two leads for one of the
channels on your phono cartridge, then setting your receiver to mono.
From: jbeer@lonestar.utsa.edu (Jason R. Beerhalter)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Background vocals on "3 Legs" from McCartney's RAM LP...
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:30:44 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio


     You know that part of the song where he says,"When I fly, when I fly,
     when I fly, when I fly above the clouds" and the background follows
     with "When I fly above the ????? clouds..." Can someone fill in the
     blank for me?

Thanks in advance,
Jason R. Beerhalter
jbeer@lonestar.utsa.edu
jbeer%UTSAVM1.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu
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From: edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen)
Subject: Re: Asides in Fab songs (was Elmore James & George)
Organization: Little to none, or maybe not......
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 03:56:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.234118.13091@cs.rose-hulman.edu> williasr@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Steven R. Williams) writes:
>
>In article <1992Sep1.102714.10483@waikato.ac.nz> deryl@waikato.ac.nz  
>writes:
>> Hey, while I'm on the topic, can anyone enlighten me to what it is that
>> a male voice (John?) says at the end of ... arrgghh! I disgust myself,
>> I can't remember the song!!! Anyway, it's on Double Fantasy, and the  
>words
>> are something like 'when you come over tonight, don't sell a cow...'
>> and then it kind of fades out.
>I believe the song is "Oh Yoko" and he certainly does say somethingh like  
>that but I can't decipher it either.
>

"Dear Yoko".  "Oh Yoko" is the similar titled song from the Imagine LP.

The line is:

"When you come over next time, Don't try and sell a cow...Spend some time
with the family"  The music then comes forward again, then we hear John
saying (presumably to Sean) "Get In the Water!"

John clarifies the statement a bit in his _Playboy_ interview (1980):

   "Losing You" is apparently about our separation, but it was written while
Sean and I were in Bermuda and I couldn't get through to her.

   She was in New York, and coming in for the weekend.  We were like, "Mummy's
coming! Mummy's coming!"  You know, it's the role reversal, like "Daddy's 
coming! Daddy's coming!" as if Daddy were abroad to Germany or something - only
instead of Daddy going away, and the family staying home, the family went away
and Daddy stayed home, 'cause mommy / daddy was in the office.  So we were,
"She's coming! She's coming for the weekend!"

   So, we were thrilled to see her, but she was on the phone the whole time. We
heard her on the phone, selling this cow, and I was joking about it 'cause I
didn't know what was going on.  It was only later that I found out what it was.
Only Yoko could sell a cow for a quarter of a million!"

<ESC>


-- 
..You either kiss the future or the past goodbye...
                          -- Ringo Starr (written by O'Deherty / Velez)
From: edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Live shows on video (was:Re: Beatlefest `92 (again))
Date: 4 Sep 92 04:57:18 GMT
Organization: Little to none, or maybe not......

>Looking back at the Beatlefest catalog, I agree `The Beatles LIVE' is 
>available at a lower price (though the catalog notes a limited quantity
>is available). However, at one of the flea market booths I found a bunch
>of Japanese-produced CDs (which I knew nothing about) and a black covered
>beatles video of 20 minute length which I took to be a repackaged LIVE
>video, but with a $62.50 tag. Let the buyer beware! 

The dreaded "grey-market" videos.  Avoid such things at all costs.
The operation usually consists of a collector with a label maker,
and two VCR's.  The color (if any) will be horribly washed out, and
the sound will be very tinny.

>
>I am still interested in other beatle concert videos, and would like to 
>know what is available, and what are good ones.`The Beatles First US Visit'
>for $82.50 is a good one, but I can rent it locally. I've heard of 
>some concerts in Japan that were good (i.e., recorded reasonably well),
>but are they available? These are not in the Beatlefest catalog.

Legitimately, "First Visit" is the only thing available on video.

otherwise there are a handful of pro-shot concerts available in their
entirety, and many more where only a song or two was filmed.

Washington '64:  Excerpted in "First US Visit".  Originally filmed,
           to be shown in theatres.  Original promos for this are
           also around.

Australia '64: Nice for history's sake, if only to see Jimmy Nicol
           playing with the boys.  Have yet to see a complete copy of
           this on video, but have been told it exists

Paris '65: Filmed by French television cameras for "posterity".  Still,
           a pretty nice color pro-shot film of the Beatles in action.

Shea '65:  The famous Shea show.   Behind the scenes footage is included.
           Originally aired on ABC, and has since lapsed into the public
           domain.  Pops up from time to time during PBS beg-a-thons.

Tokyo '66 (2 shows): Filmed by Japanese television, and briefly released
           in that country in mint condition.  Despite the lackadasical
           performance by the boys, nice to see them perform songs like
           "Yesterday", "Nowhere Man", and "Paperback Writer" live.


Of these, the Washington, Shea, and Tokyo concerts are fairly common.
They were even released by a rather dubious video company several years
back.  Your best bet would be to wait, as the highlights of this footage are
bound to show up in pristine condition on the upcoming "Long and Winding Road"
documentary.

<ESC>



-- 
..You either kiss the future or the past goodbye...
                          -- Ringo Starr (written by O'Deherty / Velez)
From: jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Guitar Chords / A Day In The Life
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:14:54 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <5gV2PB1w164w@woodowl.UUCP> flippant@woodowl.UUCP (Tom Levesque) writes:

>On another note, does anyone know of a version of "Revolution" made like the 
>single version (lots of guitar distortion) that would include a count in the 
>opening? The first time I heard it on the radio there was a count like that. 
>You might suspect the D.J. did it, but it didn't sound like that at all (I 
>recorded it on tape at the time, and it's not the dj's voice). So I'm 
>wondering if he simply has a hard to find version... perhaps an early 
>release to radio' stations (The station was WPST in the New Jersey/Penn. 
>area)

I'm not sure if it's the same, but there is a boot of a BBC promo
performance of the song.  It features the Boys singing live vocals
over the canned instrumental tracks from the single version.
(I particularly like the way it combines the distortion/rawness of
the single with the "shoo-be-do-wahs" of the album version (I))

It does feature someone counting in at the beginning.

					James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all.}
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