HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Mind the Gap)
Subject: Re: WW11 over, News at eleven (was forpost-WWll Japanese..)
Keywords: it ain't over 'til the fat lady sings
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:31:11 GMT

In article <49469@shamash.cdc.com> dternes@duke.cdc.com (David Ternes) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.235830.29517@nezsdc.icl.co.nz> derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
>>
>>Wow! World War 11 over!
>>
>>No one even told me it had started.  What happened to the wars 3 to 10?
>>Did they go the same way as VO[1-4], varieties 1-56, [1-6]UP etc...
>>
>I've been sending messages back in time which has messed everything up.
>I was trying to eliminate the movies 'Friday the 13th parts 1-8'.  All I've
>done so far is get rid of 'Jennifer 1-7' and 'Passenger 1-56' and bypass
>the Rapture on Oct. 28th.  I'll keep trying.

While, you're at it, see if you can bring back the first four Henry
movies, and the first nine Malcolm movies.

ObUL: "Passenger 57" is about the airplane crash that killed Senator Heinz.

Ted "don't even ask about flight 007" Frank
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,soc.culture.african.american,sci.skeptic
From: dpm1960@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (snopes)
Subject: Re: AIDS and the CIA (was Question)
Summary: I stand corrected, *but* ...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Will pay money for food.
Date: 11 Nov 1992 17:02 EST  

In article <ZhB=S1-@engin.umich.edu>, 
  dem@engin.umich.edu (Darryle E Merlette) writes...

>I still stand by my claim: in light of the facts behind the Tuskegee 
>Experiment, the Violence Initiative, and known chemical/biological warfare 
>capabilities, one would have to be naive and/or stupid to consider the
>possibility of AIDS being genetically engineered as totally without merit.

The Tuskegee Experiment was admittedly the nadir of government/medical research
into diseases, but there's still a huge difference between studying the effects
an age-old disease has on human beings, and genetically engineering a
deliberately deadly virus.  And there's just as much of a chasm between
developing weapons of biological warfare and developing a virus aimed at
eradicating specific ethnic groups.

>And even if it is a naturally occurring virus, there is still evidence that
>it is being used against what the government considers "undesirable 
>populations". 

I haven't seen any such evidence.  Are basketball superstars, hemophiliacs, and
dental patients part of the "undesirable populations"?

>I wish some people would consider these possibilities rather than being 
>knee-jerk (emphasis on the *jerk*) reactionaries attacking anything that even 
>hints at conspiracy/complicity.

They *are* duly considered, for as long as it takes to digest all the available
evidence.  In this case, that takes virtually no time at all. 

 - snopes

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From: klg@panda.mc.duke.edu (Kim Greer -- rjj)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Jackpotting ATM's for $$$$
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:27:31 GMT
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Organization: Duke University

In article <1992Nov10.093638.1@bronco.fnal.gov= colombo@bronco.fnal.gov (Rick Colombo - Fermilab) writes:
=In article <1992Nov8.103101.166@gems.vcu.edu=, hleaves@gems.vcu.edu writes:
== I was reading an article in an "anarchist" magazine (I can't remember which
== one) that was talking about ATM (teller machine) "jackpotting". "Jackpotting"

=Ok, I've got my PC but I need to get at the data lines...  Ah ha, I'll
=use the bumper mounted winch on my 4x4 truck and pull the front off the
=wall.  What a mess, $20,000 dollars in 10's and 20's all over the place.
=Anyway, I wade my way through the bills littering the sidewalk to look
=for the data wires, but how the f*ck do I know which is *transmit* and
=which is *receive*???

  I've heard of breakout boxes, but that's ridiculous.  Except for AFU, of
  course.       ^^^^^^^^

k "Two 10's for a 5? Sure, I guess so" g
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: markm@bigfoot.sps.mot.com (Mark Monninger)
Subject: Re: Jackpotting ATM's for $$$$
Reply-To: rapw20@email.sps.mot.com
Organization: SPS
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:49:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.183645.15704@tc.cornell.edu>  
mdw@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh) writes:
> In article <Mf0=nre00iUx8=Zlc8@andrew.cmu.edu> Samuel Roy Helwig  
<sh4j+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> >
> >    ATM == Automatic Teller Machine
> >
> >                --Sam
> 
> Why, thank you Sam. I'm glad you cleared that up for us all.
> 
Actually, it's Automated Teller Machine. Commonly referred to as "ugly
                      ^^ 
tellers".

Anyone know why bank clerks are called 'tellers'??

Mark
From: doctor@k9.UUCP (Paul Broe)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Trilateral commission
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:31:52 GMT
Distribution: na,local
Organization: Mostly Harmless...
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16g (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Nov11.023102.1@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin) writes:
> In article <1992Nov11.053958.13102@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, mporter@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mitchell Porter) writes:
> >We all know what ELSE TLC stands for...
> >WHAT DOES THIS TELL US?
> 
> Terries Love Chicken?
> 
Tastes Like Chicken?

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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Mmmm... Purple)
Subject: Re: Tool (Was Re: 2+2 and carrots)
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 01:20:26 GMT

In article <lflhrmINNh5r@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM writes:
>In article 4153@midway.uchicago.edu, thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Mmmm... Purple) writes:
>> I recall [the use of "tool" for "prick"] from Shakespeare, so it can be
>> all too new.
>
>It's even older than that:
>"And if thou wilt make me an altar of stone, thou shalt not build it of
>hewn stone: for if thou lift up thy tool upon it, thou hast polluted
>it." -- Exodus 20:26

I always thought Shakespeare came *before* the King James Bible...

Ted "none of this newfangled crap, give me the bible in the language the
     way God wrote it in the King James version" Frank 
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: flar@iastate.edu (Bradley M Armitage)
Subject: Re: Where can I look for any scholarly info....
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 03:38:37 GMT

In <1992Nov8.082622.21894@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:

>flar@iastate.edu (Bradley M Armitage) writes:
>: 
>: All I wanted was some information, if you don't have it, don't post, if
>: you have nothing inteligent to say, say nothing, and excuse any more
>: typos!

>OK - we won't worry about typos. But, your spelling of legend was not a
>typo.

Pray tell, how do you know??? are you God??

>: I thought spelling flaming went out a long time ago, with the advent of
>: inteligence!!!

>Beats me - show some intelligence - then we will see if the spelling flames
>stop.

Pretty silly, I read oh, about 15 other groups and no flames for silly
mistakes, oh well.....

>Furrfu.

>Bill 

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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: flar@iastate.edu (Bradley M Armitage)
Subject: Re: Halloween
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 18:42:13 GMT

In <1992Nov06.043241.6876@ozrout.uucp> stirling@ozrout.uucp (Stirling Westrup) writes:

>djs@DIALix.oz.au (Darryl Salisbury) writes
>>Having just experienced my first halloween party I'm interested to know
>>if anyone can fill me in on the origins of halloween, and the types of
>>costumes which are appropriate.

>The story of Halloween (as it was related to me as a child) is that an
>old tradition said that on All Hallow's Eve (The day before All Saints
>Day), various infernal creatures would roam around, looking for mortals to
>torment.  Now, Devils, Demons, Imps and the like prefer to work where other
>of their brethren aren't around to cramp their style.  So, the good people
>figured that if enough of the normal folks in an area dressed up as infernal
>creatures, the *real* nasties would give the region a miss, and look for
>someplace that was rather less crowded.

>I never have understood quite why the day before All Saints Day should be
>such an infernal day though.  Anyone out there have any ideas?


>-- 
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Well, partly right, and partly wrong, Haloween, or "Allhallows eve," was
a Pagan (maybe Satanic, not real sure, because Pagan does not equal
Satanic) holiday or festival, one which the Roman Catholic Curch could
not "get rid of" or even control.  It was believed that on this night,
the spirits of the dead would walk the earth, to do all sorts of
mischief.  The ancients thought that if they dressed like a spirit, the
real spirits would not be able to find them.  Thus the dress up part of
Halloween.  Since the Church was unable to control this Pagan festival,
they created a Holy Day to follow it, one in which the Church celebrates
or honors the Saints of the Church.  Thus, Halloween was originally a
Pagan festival which the Church wanted to control, to do this the Church
created another holiday that was a Holy Day of Obligation......

Halloween came first, and All Saints day was a reaction to that Pagan
festival...

Hope this helped.

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*******************  flar@iastate.edu (Brad Armitage)  **********************

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: drw@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (david.r.wells)
Subject: Re: [Insert series here] better than START TREK
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:42:25 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.042629.8918@bnlux1.bnl.gov> schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.211732.27458@cbfsb.cb.att.com> drw@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (david.r.wells) writes:
>>>
>>Arguably the worst Sci-Fi series ever put on TV. You'd think with Harlan
>>Ellison writing they could do better.
>
>
>I hasten to point out that Ellison goes on and on about this point in
>one of his books (think it's Angry Candy).  In said short, Ellison
>proceeds to blast the network execs in control of the show for taking
>his original ideas and stories, saying thank yoy, we love them, and then
>proceeding to re-write virtually everything that made them good SF.
>Ellison uses this as the reasoning behind why hewould never write for TV
>again.  Incidently, he cites his butchered episode of Trek in the same
>article.  For Ellison, the drug user theme of "City..." was very
>important.
>
>Don't blame him for the incredibly lame "Starlost".
>
No flame of Ellison was intended. We can fault him for being obnoxious,
arrogant, and short, but the guy CAN write!. I was instead criticizing
the terrible evil "they" who are responsible for all the problems of the
world (including bad TNG scripts), more specifically in this case, the
producers who failed to take advantage of his talents.

				David Wells
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: phil@rahul.net (Phil Gustafson)
Subject: Re: Usenetball
Organization: a2i network
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:02:57 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.075316.23164@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>That is, assuming we can prove there actually is more than one Terry. Can
>anyone testify to seeing more than one Terry at a time? Terrys, honorary
>Terrys and wannabe Terrys are not allowed to offer proof. If we cannot
>verify the multiple existance of Terrys - then we will have to disallow
>virtual Terrys.

I have seen Terry "Public servant, and who knows what he does" Chan and
Terry "Computer architect and law student -- watch your wallet" Carroll
at the same place at the same time.  At least one of them was eating
chicken mole', the current afu foodstuff.

Now that I think of it, I know a Bill Nelson who was a big dumb crew
guy at MIT in the early 60's.  Are you him?

-- 
Phil Gustafson <phil@rahul.net>
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From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (All this)
Subject: Re: Puking on shoes - A part of the culture?
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 01:06:11 GMT

In article <BxGx1w.D47@rahul.net> phil@rahul.net (Phil Gustafson) writes:
>Now, Winnie was fond of his brandy, and spent much of his life moderately
>snockered.  But I have no record of his actually puking on anyone else's
>shoes.  Let's have some names and dates here, or stop abusing the memory
>of the portly painter.

The reference comes from a Dave Barry column: "Madam, I may be drunk,
but--BLLLEAARGGGGHHH" 
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ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
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From: 880840m@ace.acadiau.ca (MICHAEL ALEXANDER MCKAY)
Subject: Re: Question about "T." in James T. Kirk !!!!!! (As seen on TV)
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:40:14 GMT

In article <92308.190504BNB101@psuvm.psu.edu> <BNB101@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Subject: Re: Question about "T." in James T. Kirk !!!!!! (As seen on TV)
>  The 'T' is for Tyberious.  Good TOS trekkers are hard to find I guess.

Spelled Tiberius.
From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Dry Towel in the DRYER?
Date: 4 Nov 92 12:05:38 GMT
	<1992Nov3.045506.22914@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
Organization: gators 'r us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992

In <1992Nov3.045506.22914@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, Joel Furr writes:
>
>It's real simple.  The dry towel absorbs moisture from the wet clothes. 
>Then you can take this towel and put it in the freezer and it'll freeze
>faster than a room-temperature towel.
doesn't that depend on whether the clothes were washed in hot or cold water?
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From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Question about "T." in James T. Kirk !!!!!! (As seen on TV)
Date: 12 Nov 1992 05:37:00 GMT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

  RE  snopes' query "What does the "V" stand for?"

vkochend@nyx.cs.du.edu (vance kochenderfer) writes:

  +  Vance?
  +
  +Vance "it could be Terry if you squint" Kochenderfer

Looks that way to me.

Terry "|-)" Chan
--
Energy and Environment Division   | Internet:  TWChan@lbl.gov
Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory      | 
Berkeley, California  USA  94720  | Carpe Per Diem
From: djohns@elm.circa.ufl.edu (David A. Johns)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Kryptonite Locks - Nitrogen/Freon chilling
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:59:14 GMT
Organization: University of Florida, Gainesville

In article <1992Nov4.102900.12067@fs7.ece.cmu.edu> snyder@henry.ece.cmu.edu (John Snyder) writes:

# >LN might be cold enough to embrittle some metals sufficiently
# >for this. Freon is patently not a cryogenic fluid, though it
# >chills quite a bit, enough to give you a bad frostbite if your
# >lightly clothed hide is near the nozzle, under sudden expansion.
# >Could be that Freon blows out some gunk that was sticking the
# >lock mechanism and that's how the urban legend got started.
# >Another drawback would be getting enough cooling that the rest
# >of the sizable lock didn't act as a heatsink.
#
# I have lately heard a lot of urban legend stuff around town about
# freezing then cracking things in order to steal cars.  I found it
# hard to believe that commercial cold spray could embrittle alloys
# used in cars.  I thought maybe there was some confusion of the
# legend.  Was the cold stuff perhaps used to chill *plastic* or
# *composite* parts on the steering column, allowing one to remove
# the ignition switch, or short it out?

I had a motorcycle stolen about 20 years ago.  It was chained to a
lamppost with a case-hardened chain, which the thieves were kind
enough to leave behind.

The broken link did not look like it had been torched, sawed, or
pinched (i.e., by bolt cutters).  In fact, the broken surface was
rough and uneven, like a rock that has cracked in a campfire.

The store I bought the chain from told me that super chilling was the
only method that could have produced that appearance.  Also, since it
was done in broad daylight, while I was at work, it probably didn't
involve anything large and obvious, like liquid nitrogen tanks.

Is there another explanation?

David Johns
From: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Legal Tender
Date: 10 Nov 1992 12:44 PST
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
Distribution: world
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>> statute that gave transactors of business dealings the right to refuse
>> payment in pennies over a quantity of 100.

> I guess that they are afraid of folk who want to demonstrate their 
> annoyance at getting a R200 speeding fine by paying it in 1c pieces. 

One used to hear more about tax protesters in the US who remitted
their Federal income tax in pennies.  I suspect that this would be
the basis of any such laws.  Might just be regulation, but then 
again, IRS regulations are stronger in practice than a lot of laws,
mostly due to the agency's reputation for acting as policeman, judge,
jury, and financial executioner all in one.

Silly form of protest anyway, IMHO, like screaming and cursing at the
checkout clerk because of something that's the store manager's fault.
The "message" makes life hard for the working stiffs without really
even getting the attention of the higher-ups, much less the Congress
that establishes the taxes they collect.

The "No bills over $20" signs are a different issue entirely. Several
kinds of small stores -- the ones that stay open all night with minimal 
staff and mostly do a cash business -- are treated as a combination 
branch bank and shooting gallery by the lower elements of American society.  
They figure the clerks might live longer if they keep only a small amount 
of working capital in the register and make a conspicuous display of dropping 
the rest into a strongbox which the clerk cannot open.  Legal tender or not,
they get grumpy if you hand them a $100 bill for a tank of gas and a bag 
of potato chips, thereby denuding the cash register and leaving the next 
n customers up the proverbial creek.

Joe "So who has that kind of money these days anyway?" Chew
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: ssriv@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Sanjay Srivastava)
Subject: Re: Still Sinking.../Architectural Goofs
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 03:52:46 GMT


re: the University of Chicago radoiactivity story...

	I also seem to remember hearing a story that when they were
testing this atomic pile, they had two grad students standing above it, on
the gound level, holding control rods in case anything went wrong.  Anyone
from U of C able to back me up on this?

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.conspiracy
From: nolan@lurch.twg.com (Nolan Hinshaw)
Subject: Re: Trilateral commission
Reply-To: nolan@twg.com
Organization: Somewhere West of Nowhere
Distribution: ca
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:37:38 GMT


In article <1992Nov9.022947.9222@oracle.us.oracle.com>, wkaufman@us.oracle.com (William Kaufman) writes:
The Trilateral Commission: none dare call it conspiracy!
--
Nolan "The Council on Foreign Relations is good enough for me" Hinshaw
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   A. Banta, alt.peeves
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"Anything that disorients you is good for you"  Tiny Doctor Tim
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"Boy, was I in for a dose of reality." Randall K. Abler
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"Well, first of all, your stance is too wide"