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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 20:33:00 EDT
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From:         Adam M Hartfield <AHARTFIE%DREW.DREW.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Fitting in
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>Take heart, Rita.  I am a managing editor, and Judith is an editor,
>so I think we can safely establish our own clique on this list.
>
>   Sincerely, A.D. the M.E.

Hey!  I used to be a copy editor!  Does that count?  It proved to me
that many college students either can't spell or can't type.  Grammar
correcting was fun too.

But now I'm just a lowly history major who has too much work to be
logged in as often as I am.  Guess I'll have to join the college kid
clique.  Aimee, Aaron, Alec, Adam..funny how our names all start with
A.  Does that mean anything?

--Adam
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From:         QXN148%URIACC.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU
Subject:      Re: free press

I agree with Rashmi.  The press is doing a poor job of covering the campaign
this year.  It took me a while to figure out what Bill Clinton held as his
platform.  I was too busy trying to seperate his sex life and poll standings to
find out what type of tax policy etc. he had in mind should he be elected.
My generally uniformed roommate told me that she was not voting in this
electin because she didn't like the candidates.  I asked why and she told me it
was becasue she didn't know anything about them.  I was angry because   people
my age are getting the opportunity to vote in our first election and have our
long oppressed voice heard and she along with many others has decided to stay
oppressed because she does not like the candidates based on the fact that she
knows nothing about them. I find it disgusting that she won't vote. I asked her
why she didn't watch the news or read a paper or magazine her reply; not con-
vient.  The way I think of the situation is, the magazines, newspapers, media
in general may be acting as our go-between to the candidates but it's all we
have and I should be responsible enough to used it with discretion in forming
my political opinion.
Lisa
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From:         torkel%SICS.SE@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU
Subject:      Re: CALLING ALL STUDENTS OF RUSSIAN
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  Frank wrote, about Turing:

   >But all of his work was pen and paper theory.  He never wrote a computer
   >program (at least none of significance) and he never constructed or
   >directly supervised the construction of a computer.
   >Voltaire had about as much participation in the writing of the US
   >Declaration of Independence as Turing had in the actual low level
   >design and building of a computer.

  I looked up Turing in the Encyclopedia Britannica, to settle this
point without further wrangling. Here is the relevant passage:


        In 1945 he joined the staff of the National Physical
        Laboratory in Greater London to lead the design,
        construction, and use of a large electronic digital
        computer that was named the Automatic Computing
        Engine (ACE). In 1948 he became deputy director of the
        Computing Laboratory at the University of Manchester,
        where the Manchester Automatic Digital Machine (MADAM),
        the computer with the largest memory capacity in the
        world at that time, was being built. His efforts in
        the construction of early computers and the development
        of early programming techniques were of prime
        importance.
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From:         the Freshman Scott Huddle <huddle%VTTCF.CC.VT.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: RE: in-jokes and such
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>I don't know.  First, the economists are a minority on the list.
>There are two, who work at Northern Illinois, one of whom is on a
>job interview in France, and our approaches to the use of
>mathematics in economics are different.

I raised my hand a long time ago, count me as a three handed
economist, also.  (on the other hand, and on the other hand)

-scott (BA Economics, Va Tech, 1989) huddle@vttcf.cc.vt.edu
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 22:23:21 EDT
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From:         Rashmi Murthy <rashmi%CBIS.ECE.DREXEL.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pre-Clam Slam
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              "QXN148%URIACC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu" at Apr 9, 92 9:33 pm

> Especially Mama Primate who shocked the shit out of everyone who
> saw her for the first time. Poor Rita was so shocked that she did breathe, I
> thought we were going to loose her.  Anne was shocked too.


OK, so what was mama p wearing that had everyone spellbound?  Could
we have a description of that, please?

rashmi
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From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood%TENET.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Jones
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> >"jones" is slang for withdrawal pains.
> >-abh
>
> Actually, Tocaya, a "jones" is an addiction.  "I've got a
> bad chocolate jones."
>
>     - Another Anne

Thanks to both Annes...I'm such a new addict, I didn't know what to call
it...I just thought my Welsh was showing.
ndh
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Subject:      Re: S T R E S S ! !

>Posted on 6 Apr 1992 at 18:08:20 by Uriacc Mailer (002033)
>
>S T R E S S ! !
>
>Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 13:25:11 +0000
>Reply-To:     English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@UGA.BITNET>
>From:         the Freshman Scott Huddle <huddle@VTTCF.CC.VT.EDU>
>
>
>-scott (who's mother loves him so much, she just sent a TSE brochure for
>Easter, along with a stuffed bunny)
Now you know what true motherly love is.  At least she cares enough to send the
very best.
>
>TSE - Testicular Self Examination
Doctoressa Alfieri
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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Goodbye

Worrieth      "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

> I trust that "golden" is a reference to my BWP medal.  Alas, I may
> fall down in the standings over the next few days.  I'll be out of
> town without much e-mail time and using my mushy-keyed laptop with
> slower modem on a telnet connection that works well if I can get to
> it but that has some iffiness of access.

     Don't worry. Natalie.  I think I am the only one currently in
position to overtake you (though Graham's combined total is coming
up fast), and you didn't have any trouble wresting the gold back from
me once your node was back on line.

The Ronin
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From:         "Aaron Dickey, The Happy Spore"
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Subject:      Goodbye

Well, I just discovered something interesting.  My account is about to
die, as I've used my my "allotment" for the student year.  Seems we're
'charged' for the any time spent online, and for all disk space (well,
not me personally, but my school...charged how I don't know), and my
limit is almst up.  In other words, subscribing to WORDS-L probably did
me in.  Since I don't have any way of knowing exactly when my account will
die, I figured it would be best to say goodbye now rather than just
disappearing one day into the ether.  I don't know what sort of whacked
system this is...I've never heard of any other colleges running their
system this way, but what can I do.  It's been fun, everyone...and all I
have to say is this: Whatever your field of academic interest, whether it
be computer science, English, pottery, or anything else, don't ever
consider New York University, because they will do everything in their
power to prevent you from expanding your mind.

--Aaron
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>rules of English.  Who sets such rules I don't know.  Maybe we need one
>of those offical language committees like they have in France.
>
>--Aaron

There have been attempts to get something like that established, but it seems
to run counter to the instincts of Americans to have some group dictate how
we should speak... and it all finally died out (I understand) with the
widespread dissemination of dictionaries, which serve almost the same purpose.
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From:         droby%NOVA.TCS.TUFTS.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU
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              16 Apr 92 20:13:08 EDT." <9204162018.aa19553@Nova.TCS.Tufts.EDU>

Says droby@NOVA.TCS.TUFTS.EDU:
>
>Galmin was before my time (I think entirely - I saw some reference to a malign
>donut, but but I don't think it was from Galmin Sound himself).
>
	Anagrams really don't work unless you type them correctly.  I believe
the reference was to malign donuts and the character was Galmin Stound.

	I remember nothing else about Galmin, except somebody thought he was a
certain recreant from Tufts.  Was the true identity of Galmin ever established?

- Don R, talking to himself again.
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Subject:      Re: Gleanings (38)
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 3) Ed Pinkney (Jack R.)

	Ed Pinckney is a basketball player.  He was a star on the Villanova
	team that upset Georgetown to win the 1985(?) national collegiate
	championship.  How he showed up in words-l to be gleaned escapes me.

 5) Eta Oin Shrdlu/"Hamburgefonstiv" (Graham)

	Don't know about the second part, but ETAOINSHRDLU is (supposedly) the
	frequency order of the most common letters in written English.  Didn't
	the comic strip 'Smokey Stover' often use 'Etaoin Shrdlu' as filler?
	Or was that 'Notary Sojac'?  [Akio, please don't glean that -- I have
	no idea what it means.]

12) *Mojo*/*Otis* Nixon (Steve P./Neal)

	Steve told you about Mojo (of whom I, not up on current 'music,' had
	never heard).  He, not up on current baseball, had never heard of
	Atlanta Braves outfielder, basestealer, and cocaine addict Otis.
	Before you ask, Otis isn't related to former catcher, coach, and
	manager Russ, but he is the brother of Donell (also a baseball player,
	but poorer at it than Otis).  I don't know whether any of them are
	related to Mojo or Dick.  BTW, I'll bet that Dick knows who Otis,
	Donell, and Russ are ... but hasn't heard of Mojo.

14) Corva Coleman/Korva Koleman (Stu)

	Isn't 'kourva' (however you want to spell it) a Yiddish word for
	someone rather objectionable?  A prostitute, or something like that?

25) Paul Hornung (Emily)

	Former football player, for Notre Dame in the 50s and the Green Bay
	Packers in the 60s.  Known as the Golden Boy for his beefy blond good
	looks and high living.  Was suspended from the NFL for a year because
	he bet on games.  Not related to Emily HornIng.

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From:         torkel%SICS.SE@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU
Subject:      A quotation
Comments: To: WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu

  Speaking of English...here is a quotation from a letter written by
a father to his son, in 1437. A prize in the form of a postcard awaits
the person who correctly identifies the father.


    Think not that I haue any new or chang of aduertisments to send
    you, but stil it is one that I wold: I haue nothing to crye and
    cal apon you for but honestye, honestye. It may be diuersly
    namid, but alway it tendith to one end. And as I wrate to you
    last, I meane not that honestye that the comen sort callith an
    honist man: Trust me that honist man is as comen a name as
    the name of a good felow, that is to say, a dronkerd, a tauerne
    hanter, a riotter, a gamer, a waster: so are among the comen
    sort al men honist men that are not knowin for manifest naughtye
    knaues. Seke not, I pray the, my son, that honesty which
    aperith and is not in dead. Be wel assured it is no comen thing
    nor no comen mans iugement to iuge wel of honestye, nor it is
    no comen thing to come by: but so mitch it is the more
    goodlye for that it is so rare and strang. Folow not therfor
    the comen reputation of honestye: if you wil seme honist,
    be honist, or else seame as you are.
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
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Subject:      Begin With a Smile!

Sorry for all those spelling and/or grammatical errors -  too early in the
morning.  Happy birthday, Bernard.  I think Muffy prepared some kind of
surprise for you - you'll just have to wait to find out.

                            Peace,
                                  Don
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:55:32 GMT
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From:         Mr Bill Louw <blouw%ZIMBIX.UZ.ZW@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      I'm off for a while!
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Hi

For the next month I shall be out in the sticks,  away from phone lines,
modems and email (sob!).


I regret that for the time being I must SET NOMAIL

Go well y'all.

B
--
Bill Louw           University of Zimbabwe       blouw@zimbix.uz.zw
Senior Lecturer     P.O. Box MP 167        (blouw%zimbix@quagga.ru.ac.za)
English Language    Harare,  Zimbabwe        Phone: +263 4 303211 xt 1502
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From:         Evelyn <R3EJD%AKRONVM.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: re:procrastination (wasRE:pencils (was RE: TV))

Coppelia?!?  Les, you lucky duck!  That's my favorite ballet.

Evelyn
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 10:49:21 EDT
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From:         Judith Schrier <PRIMATE%BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pre-Clam Slam
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>Rashmi Murthy <rashmi@CBIS.ECE.DREXEL.EDU> asks:
>>OK, so what was mama p wearing that had everyone spellbound?  Could
>>we have a description of that, please?
I don't really understand why this is so fascinating <smirk>.

Joan Boorstein described:
>List mama Judith was wearing the originally-specified attire for the
>get-together; namely, leathers.   Yes, she would admit that they
>were her daughter's(at least I think that is what I understood) and
>that she does not ride a motorcycle.  No whip, but she did have a helmet
>with the motto: I KNOW JACK SHIT.  By the way she was the only one in
>leathers.
The *jacket* (the one with all the zippers and the fringe and the
silver conchs and the painted on roses) belongs to my daughter. The
chaps (with the zippered inseam, laced back, and buckled front)
are the property of her boyfriend, who owns the (not Harley, sorry)
Honda they ride on. The leather scarf is his, and the blue shades
are hers (I couldn't *see* with them on, since I need prescription
lenses, and had to be *led* to and into the restaurant...thanks,
Jim and Lisa). The black t-shirt with the yellow and shocking pink
logo was a gift from my son.

The long grey hair is my own...

>All in all a most enjoyable evening -- I certainly did not feel awkward --
>words-l provided the common bond --- sure wish I did not have to leave
>early for a rehearsal.  Thanks to Rod, Don & Rita (and any others I might
>have omitted) for finding us a meeting place.
Many thanks to the Cambridge hosts!

love, judith
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor%RA.MSSTATE.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Technogeek Perhaps Saves The Day

>      What is Frank using, a claymore?  I cannot believe that
> Bernardykins is that fast, so the problem must be on Frank's end.  If
> he was using a bat I would advise him to choke-up on it, but this gets

Bernardykins is a clever beast.  He sneaks into Frank's office only when
Frank is out of town.  The sword never comes close to him.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         "PLOTKIN, ALEC DAVID" <185422285%UCIS.VILL.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Ed Pinckney (was Re: Gleanings (38))
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Ed's nickname on campus and forever was "easy" Ed because he was money in the
bank for scoring.
later

alec
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor%RA.MSSTATE.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (38)

> >I agree.  Of course it's also redundant to say "I walkED home YESTERDAY."
> >Why not "I walk home yesterday"?
>
> Why is that redundant?  The -ed indicates that the walk action is in
> the past, and yesterday tells when in the past the walking took
> place.  Please clarify.

Isn't yesterday clearly in the past?  If so, the -ed is redundant.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Lobstrosities Unite <CHRISS%CWU.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Yo!

>       Hey Lobstrosity!  I'm on, too, naughty thing that I am.
>
>
>Rita

Hi, Greekling!  Glad to see you, you naughty thing.

Hey, speaking of naughty things,  we just rented our apartment out to five,
count them, five, nubile young women.  All of them are charming, seemingly
intelligent, and very pleasant.  We've had the best luck with having students,
especially females, rent that place.  They make the best tenants by far.
Hopefully they'll stick around for a while.

Chris
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From:         "815 Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980"
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Subject:      Re: ODDS 'N' ENDS

Natalie observes, "If a system of grunts meets the needs of the
speakers of English, there's no way it can be deemed 'wrong.'"

If the needs (whatever that means) can be met by a system of
grunts, where previously they used other combinations of sounds,
the problem may not lie with the language, but may lie in some other
breakdown.

Steve Karlson

(trying to invoke economics)
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From:         Adam M Hartfield <AHARTFIE%DREW.DREW.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: Re: tarmac rugrats
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>Remembereth   "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
>
>> But I've now remembered that I *was* teased during childhood!  I almost
>> forgot my brother.  Is it even possible to have an older brother without
>> being the victim of teasing?
>
> [The Ronin's story of his childhood deleted] {sorry}

I don't know, but it's impossible to have older sisters and not be
teased.   My sisters used to torment me mercilessly.  They'd take me
by the ankles and wrists and pretend to swing me through our living
room windows onto the porch.  They'd hide on the landing on the
stairs and scare me when I came down.  Worst of all, my eldest sister
Karen used to play the song "The Night the Lights Went Out in
Chicago", and then I'd cry because of the sirens (I couldn't have
been more than 4 at the time), and then she'd hug me to make me feel
better, the fiend.  Of course, when I got older and stronger and
started to strike back, they all whined and said it hurt.  We'll see
what happens at my sister's wedding on the 18th--it'll be the first
time all of us have been together since my high school graduation in
1989.

--Adam, suffering from a mild case of verbiage continuous
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From:   NAME: Les Buhite
        FUNC: Visual and Performing Arts
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<"In summary, no attempt to establish a national academy...has
<been truly successful...in...the English-speaking world.  To
<a large extent, the authoritative dictionaries, beginning
<with Johnson's dictionary and continuing with the Oxford
<English Dictionary in Britain and Webster's dictionaries in
<the United States, have served as a substitute for a national
<academy."  (p. 264)

I've heard the suggestion that American spelling, which has managed some
minor modifications since the revolution, got frozen with the general
dispersal of dictionaries.  At a time when an eighth grade education
qualified one to teach public schools, the schoolmaster/marm in possession
of such a sacred text had something to teach once everyone knew their
multiplication tables.   Had the dispersal of dictionaries been held off
another generation, perhaps American orthography at least would have become
more phonetic, to the relief of millions.

L.
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