HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: buchignani@hg.uleth.ca
Subject: Fabrikant
Reply-To: buchignani@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 19:26:16 GMT

When the Valery Fabrikant material first hit this group, there was a
suggestion that he might have sent the material first by e-mail
to more than just the 42 people on his "B" group--that is, possibly
to "A," "B," etc. groups as well. Can anyone confirm that he indeed did
broadcast his material more widely?

    Norm Buchignani/University of Lethbridge/BUCHIGNANI@HG.ULETH.CA
"If we have been accustomed to deplore the spectacle...of a workman occupied
during his whole life in nothing else but the making of knife-handles or pins'
heads, we may find something quite as lamentable in the intellectual class, in
the exclusive employment of a human brain in resolving some equations, or in
classifying insects. [This] occasions a miserable indifference about the
general course of human affairs, as long as there are equations to solve and
pins to manufacture."                                      Auguste Comte
Newsgroups: sci.research.careers
From: probst@selkirk.sfu.ca (Scott Probst)
Subject: concordia postings
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: sci.research.careers
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:40:49 GMT

i've heard that Fabrikant, the guy who killed four people at concordia
had posted some stuff to the net some time before he did what he did. does
anyone have copies of this stuff, or know where it's available from
archive? thanks.

sp
From: ams90@uk.ac.soton.ecs (A M Shihab)
Newsgroups: sci.research.careers
Subject: HELP: I need a job......
Date: 21 Dec 92 11:34:28 GMT
Originator: ams90@cezanne

Hi,
  
  I am about to graduate with a degree in Electronics (1st) from
Southampton university (UK) . But as the group knows There are NO jobs out
there.

 I am looking for a job in the UK or europe, in the fields of either:
   IC design 
or
   Parallel systems proghramming
as I have wide experience in those fields.


Any help or pointers will be greatly appreciated.


ams...

I can be reached on:
ams90@ecs.soton.ac.uk || ams@par.soton.ac.uk || ams90@soton.ac.uk
Newsgroups: sci.research.careers
From: solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky)
Subject: DARPA info
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 03:50:38 GMT

Does anybody know if DARPA has an information service (accessible by the net)
similar to NSF's STIS?

Thanks.

Jason W. Solinsky
Newsgroups: sci.research.careers
From: kh04643@uwasa.fi (Jukka Nokso-Koivisto)
Newsgroups: sci.research
Subject: Poland / FDI
Date: 30 Dec 92 11:21:10 GMT
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland

Hi!!

At the moment I am working on my thesis for masters degree in marketing.
The topic of my thesis is: The Role of Location Specific Advantages in
Foreign Direct Investment Decision Process - A case analysis of (3 firms)
investments to Poland.

I would like to discuss about Dunnings eclectic paradigm of international
production and I very much like to discuss about the investment climate and
the country specific characters of Poland. 

So if you are doing your paper, research... on either EASTERN-EUROPE or
FDI DECISIONS, or you live in POLAND, please mail me ideas and information.

THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!!!

Jukka Nokso-Koivisto
From: rsherme@diamond.nswc.navy.mil (Russel Shermer (R43))
Newsgroups: sci.research
Subject: Re: Archives - are they available?
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:14:08 GMT
Reply-To: rsherme@chaos.nswc.navy.mil
Organization: NAVSWC DD White Oak Det. R43


The complete FYI postings will eventually be available via anonymous
ftp.  I'll post all of the necessary info, when the archive is complete.

	---Russ
From: GC.GGG@forsythe.stanford.edu (Gwyn Gordon)
Newsgroups: sci.research
Subject: FUNDING ANNOUNCEMENT
Date: 29 Dec 1992 14:50:34 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu


***FUNDING OPPORTUNITY***

Research Expeditions International is accepting applications for
funding for research projects scheduled for 1994.

Research Expeditions International specializes in Participatory
Research, in which well-educated lay people provide funding and
volunteer as the on-site work force. Studies best suited for
Participatory Research involve data collection or unskilled labor
which is easily taught to one or several groups of adults.
Preference will be given to studies in the following areas: animal
behavior; archaeological excavation; and tourist impact on culture,
economy and ecology. Studies in other fields will certainly be
considered if appropriate.

Applications for the 1994 season are due February 1, 1993.

For informational materials and application, contact:

Gwyn Gordon
gwyn.gordon@forsythe.stanford.edu
415-494-2515
806 Los Robles Avenue
Palo Alto, CA 94306
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 10:03:31 EST
From: <FORSDYKE@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: sci.research,sci.med,bionet.general
Subject:    Basic Research and Drug Company Patents

HEALTH-CARE COSTS / DRUG PROFITS / RESEARCH FUNDING

   With escalating health care costs, many in the USA are looking to the
Canadian system as a possible model to emulate. Currently, the Canadian
government is under pressure, as part of its free-trade obligations, to
increase the period of patent protection for drugs  to bring this in line
with other countries. Thus, the Canadian health care consumer is
anticipating an increase in health care costs. There is much public
debate about the wisdom of adopting legislation which will please the
multinational drug firms, but displease the national proprietors of
"generics'.  The multinational companies are coating the pill by offering
to plough profits back into research. The following letter suggests that
perhaps it would be better for other countries to get in line with
Canada.

Editor, The Globe & Mail,                             21st December 1992

                Patent Protection for Drug Companies

   As J.K.Galbraith points out so eloquently in The New Industrial State,
the primary goal of the heads of large multinational corporations is to
sustain their own security. To the extent that it serves this purpose,
maximization of profits is also sought. The worse dream of the head of a
large brand-name drug company is that, after the investment of millions
of dollars in preparing a new drug for market, there is a major research
advance so that the drug becomes redundant. It is much in the interest of
the drug companies to maintain the status quo. Progress in research must
be carefully monitored and controlled.  Increasing the period of patent
protection, as envisaged in current legislation, will increase their
commitment to the status quo.
   So what is all this talk about the companies providing more funds for
research, the very process which will disrupt the status quo? Yes, there
probably will be more fund for research, but you can be sure it will be
carefully directed. Those researchers willing to engage in clinical trials and
applied research will receive a generous bounty. The unspoken aim will be
to draw scarce resources (research space, skilled personnel) away from
those who are engaged in basic research. So long as basic researchers are
seen as "loose cannons" whose interests are directly opposed to those of
the drug firms, the firm's unspoken policy must be to persuade government
to rein in funding to the Medical Research Council (which supports most
of the basic research in Canada). Furthermore, they must persuade the
latter to sustain the peer review system which, as currently practiced,
effectively divides-and-rules the basic researchers.

                                      Donald R. Forsdyke, M.B., Ph.D.
                                      Department of Biochemistry,
                                      Queen's University, Canada
From: tepper@ACF1.NYU.EDU
Newsgroups: sci.research
Subject: Smoking Cessation
Date: 3 Jan 93 05:28:42 GMT
Reply-To: tepper@ACF1.NYU.EDU
Organization: New York University, NY, NY
NNTP-Posting-Host: acf1.nyu.edu

Is anyone aware of any electronic bulletins issued by the Office on Smoking and Health of the Centers for Disease Control?  Any information posted here or
emailed would be appreciated.  Jesse Tepper  Tepper@acfcluster.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: sci.research
From: probst@selkirk.sfu.ca (Scott Probst)
Subject: Archives - are they available?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:36:52 GMT

are the past postings to this group available from an archive source? if so,
where? thanks.

sp
From: rsherme@diamond.nswc.navy.mil (Russel Shermer (R43))
Newsgroups: sci.research
Subject: erratum for fyi #161.
Date: 30 Dec 92 22:25:27 GMT
Reply-To: rsherme@chaos.nswc.navy.mil
Organization: NAVSWC DD White Oak Det. R43

TO:    FYI Readers
FROM:  Audrey Leath
DATE:  December 29, 1992

Please note that the three labs listed in FYI #161 are only DOE's
weapons labs.  The Department of Energy maintains other,
non-weapons labs as well.
Xref: sparky sci.research:1371 sci.med:22905 can.politics:10986
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 11:11:55 EST
From: <FORSDYKE@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: sci.research,sci.med,can.politics
Subject:    Canadians Alert! MRC Budget

   Hidden away in Mr. Mazankowski's economy measures of Dec. 4th was the
decision to freeze the budget of the Medical Research Council for the next two
years, reneging on the much-touted previous commitment to provide 4% increases
for the next 4 years. Many wrote to Minister Winegard thanking him for securing
these increases, so it may now be appropriate to express our dismay at this
betrayal. The sum which will be saved will be $65 million out of a total budget
reduction of $4.253 billion (i.e. 1.5%), but the impact on medical research in
Canada will be immense.

    Canadians are encouraged to write to their Member of Parliament, the
Hon. William C. Winegard (Minister of Science) and other appropriate MPs

    Note that the next election will be in 1993.
Newsgroups: sci.environment
From: dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska)
Subject: Re: Sacrifice (was Re: Save the Planet ...)
Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder CO
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:08:35 GMT

>People don't have to sacrifice anything, just get on with it and
>*benefit*, for the same reasons you wipe your arse whenever you go
>to the toilet, or wash the dishes, or do the household chores. It is
>just *housekeeping*, fundamentally, and if you don't want to do it
>then you have to live in the shit accumulated around you, yes?

No, you can leave the shit for someone else to live in in 50 years.
> 
You pretty much ignored my point.  Costs and
benefits for washing the dishes or wiping your arse both happen on
a similar time scale.  The costs for CO2 emissions don't.  The costs
for consumption of products that use toxic waste don't.  Its easy
to see that you run out of dishes if you don't wash them so you wash
them so you can eat off of them.  Some people think it is okay to
ignore such future costs because they _assume_ that future people will
be able to "fix" it, even if we can't, and that such people won't
mind wiping off our arses in the future.  You refer to housekeeping
and I agree that that is the issue.  The POINT is that the shit
doesn't necessarily accumulate around you.  Sometimes, it accumulates
around the next generation.  Avoiding that requires sacrifices.

You have written in another thread of Chinese care for the next
generation.  If that care is deep enough, then implementing such
plans may not even be considered a sacrifice.  If that is true, then I
salute the Chinese and think that such an attitude emphasizes just
how much many of us can learn from them.
-- 
==============================================================================
A thought for the holidays:
   "Wine is living proof that God loves us and likes to see us happy"
	- Benjamin Franklin			dean@vexcel.com
Newsgroups: sci.environment,talk.environment
From: dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska)
Subject: Re: ??? NUCLEAR WASTE ???
Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder CO
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 21:05:36 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.193004.10313@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> 471-1@.arizona.edu (E. Shane Jimerfield) writes:
>Am I missing something here, I still have no response to my simple
>question-
>
> WHAT ABOUT THE WASTE???
>
>Perhaps, John McC or Tino want it. Or maybe they just want to save it for
>their children.
>
They are probably tired of answering the same question for different
people every couple of weeks.  The fact is that any dangers from
current waste storage plans are probably less dangerous than many
other industrial activities that get no attention from environmentalists.
>
>-- 
>Take 'er easy.... Shane
>.watch out for the lightning (a large-scale high-tension natural electric
>discharge in the atmosphere)......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>..informal... a sudden usually improbable stroke of fortune.......


-- 
==============================================================================
A thought for the holidays:
   "Wine is living proof that God loves us and likes to see us happy"
	- Benjamin Franklin			dean@vexcel.com
From: mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson)
Newsgroups: sci.environment
Subject: Re: has anybody heard of this letter?
Date: 22 Dec 92 14:56:55 GMT
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA

In <115110001@misty.boeing.com> small@misty.boeing.com (steve small) writes:


|I read a very brief newspaper article a couple of weeks ago describing
|an open letter signed by about 200 prominent scientists from around the
|world (a number of them Nobel winners) which was soon to be sent to world
|political leaders.  Apparently the letter predicts catastrophic consequences
|in a few decades at most if fundamental changes in environmental policy are
|not made soon.

|Does anybody have available the text of this letter or know where it can
|be obtained?  Is it worth posting?

It has always amazed me how just because somebody starts putting Phd. after
their name, they begin to feel they are experts in all fields.
Unless these so called scientists have their degrees in meterology, their
opinions are worth no more than yours or mine.

-- 
Mob rule doesn't become any prettier, just because the mob start to call itself
a government.
It ain't charity if you are using someone else's money.
Mark.Wilson@AtlantaGA.NCR.com
From: gil@tillage.DIALix.oz.au (Gil Hardwick)
Newsgroups: sci.environment
Subject: Idiotic Japan Bashing
Distribution: world
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 11:06:02 GMT
Organization: STAFF STRATEGIES - Anthropologists & Training Agents


In article <JMC.92Dec28100225@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU writes:

 > I would imagine that Japan's 1938 100 year plan would have been based
 > on the use of Manchukuo (their name for Manchuria or Liaoning) and
 > probably on further conquests in China and maybe in the Soviet Far
 > East.  Not much salvageable from that plan.
 >  
 > --
 > John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
 > *
 > He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.

Manchuria was merely the resource base underwriting the plan, John. The
plan itself was, and still is "Asia for Asians". Something we here in
Australia have cause to think about seriously while the US withdraws to
its Americas according to George Bush's "New World Order".

Japan's present resource base has been rapidly expanding into the US
as well, BTW, for the past thirty years and more. Something you might
like to think about, without becoming paranoid of course.

Gil

Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.energy
From: mjvande@pbhye.PacBell.COM (Mike Vandeman)
Subject: Re: Save the Planet and t
Reply-To: mjvande@PacBell.COM (Mike Vandeman)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 00:23:49 GMT

>But that's exactly what the "Back to the Middle Ages" bunch wants you to
>do:  Live like a peasant, have your shop in your hovel's living room,
>and walk or ride your bicycle everywhere in your _very_ limited world.

I would be willing to bet that your world (due to spending so much $ & time
on cars) is more limited than mine.
Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.energy
From: tleylan@pegasus.com (Tom Leylan)
Subject: Re: Idiotic Japan Bashing
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 07:24:58 GMT

mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman) writes:

and writes:
and writes:
and writes:
and writes:

>No.  I contend I have won the argument because you cannot state what
>topics a 100 year plan should cover.  For example, 2 years ago I did
>not know how to write a business plan.  I did know what the major
>topics that belonged in it were - most are obvious.  What belongs ina
>100 year plan?

Michael you're a little to caught up in yourself for me to be bothered
but if you can't come up with a 22 year plan then you're plainly a
dope.  Can you do a 25 year one ?  Can you do a 30 year one ?

Where is the limit again ?

>Than Robert Reich, quite possibly.  Than the Frontline researchers?  I
>don't know.  Than you?  Definitely.

I believe you... oh, are an idiot.

tom

Newsgroups: sci.environment
From: dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska)
Subject: Re: Development policies
Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder CO
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:40:26 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.155351.9057@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) writes:
>In article <1992Dec18.212716.11530@vexcel.com> dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska) writes:
>>
>>What Gary fails to recognize is that his recommendations are exactly what
>>the World Bank was trying to do.  That they continued to enforce this
>>policy after it had failed, leading to the deficit spending that he
>>criticizes is probably the result of an unwillingness to admit that
>>they were wrong.  Also, although describing the World Bank strategy
>>as statis may be true but I fail to see how it was collectivist.
>
>The World Bank may have been trying to do what I suggested, but they were
>doing a singularly poor job of it. They essentially funnel money from
>governments to governments and we've seen countless examples of how
>corrupt and inefficient this type of action is. Specifically what I
>was suggesting is that countries should establish a legal and political
>climate that is favorable to private investment. That doesn't take
>massive "loans" from foreign governments. It only takes courage and
>integrity by local officials. Of course those are always in short
>supply.

Much of this is true and I think it stems from the type of projects
that the World Bank favors.  Its hard to find private investors for
mega-energy projects like huge dams.  I do not know if the World
Bank is permitted to make loans to individuals.  Note that policies
which would give a country a climate more favorable for investment
include infrastructure construction, which usually requires
governmental investments.
>
>The World Bank is fundamentally statist in that it only deals with
>states. And it is collectivist in the sense of Karl Marx's taking
>from those who can produce and giving to those who cannot, or will
>not. Though Robin Hood was more honest than Marx in stating his
>intentions.

By "giving to those who cannot [produce]", I assume you are referring
to corrupt inefficient people.  These people are the minority in such
countries and collectivist policies are usually designed to help
the majority.
>
>Gary


-- 
==============================================================================
A though for the holidays:
   "Wine is living proof that God loves us and likes to see us happy"
	- Benjamin Franklin			dean@vexcel.com
From: joshp@emtek.UUCP (Joshua Person)
Newsgroups: sci.environment
Subject: Re: Save the Planet and the Economy at the Same time!
Summary: reply to donb
Date: 29 Dec 92 22:14:31 GMT
Organization: Emtek Health Care Systems, Inc., Tempe Arizona


 he is not asking you to sell your truck and move to an apartment, (I believe).  There are simple things us
 Suburban folk can do to help out though.  For instance, Price Club is an excellent idea, bulk shopping reduces
 your _car_ trips to the store.  
	 Car trips are _not_ necessary for everything either.  Take the bus or ride your bike on occasions thhat
you can.  If you are disabled then encourage others to do so. 
	The next time you move, consider moving close by the place of work. I live too far from work to ride my
bike all the time, but since I car pool with my father to work in a pickup truck, I throw the bike in the back
and ride it to lunch and to school at midday.  All these seemingly futile things can add up if everyone takes on
this way of living.

The best thing to do is to encourage others to contribute.

Josh Person -Emtek Healthcare Systems


Xref: sparky sci.environment:14169 sci.energy:6538
From: stead@skadi.CSS.GOV (Richard Stead)
Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.energy
Subject: Re: Nuclear Power and Climate Change
Date: 31 Dec 92 20:58:06 GMT
Followup-To: sci.energy

In article <1992Dec31.164918.22167@vexcel.com>, dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska) writes:
> In article <1992Dec31.024353.15278@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> constant@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Tino) writes:
> >In article <1992Dec30.211459.28435@vexcel.com> dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska) writes:
> >I couldn't see solar and wind supporting a country of 10-20 million or more,
> >and I wouldn't want to be in Bangladesh when a typhoon carries off the 
> >country's entire capacity of solar panels.
> 
> I woudln't want to be in Bangladesh when a typhoon carries off a
> containment structure.

No comparison.  Containment structures are designed to withstand the strongest
tornadoes - a mere typhoon would simply give the plant a nice bath.  However,
solar panels must be openly exposed to the sun to work.  This leaves them
vulnerable to being blown all over the countryside by strong winds.  Just
look at some of the stuff our last big hurricane did in Florida.  That's
exactly what a typhoon does.  The solar demonstration project out in the
Mojave in California does not need to worry about such storms, it will
never experience one.  Bangladesh does have nuclear power and it has not
been carried away in the typhoons they get every year.

> >BTW, the countries that are growing very rapidly, like Thailand and Korea,
> >are investing heavily in next-generation nuclear plants. Perhaps the US will
> >be buying its technology from _them_.
> 
> Where are they getting their technology from?

France, Japan, whatever.  Any western nation with a sane nuclear policy.


--
Richard Stead
Center for Seismic Studies
Arlington, VA
stead@seismo.css.gov