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From: wkung@sail.uwaterloo.ca (Bill Kung)
Subject: Does anyone have use for a Linn Valhalla board?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: rec.audio, rec.audio.high-end
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:22:27 GMT

I have recently upgraded my Linn LP12/Valhalla turntable to the Lingo
power supply.  Since there was no trade-in on the Valhalla board, I had
the dealer return it back to me.  So now I have this Valhalla board and
all the parts that were removed when the Lingo was fitted.  Does anyone
have use for a Valhalla power supply (I was thinking of someone with an
older Linn or someone who bought a Linn LP12/Basik and didn't want to fork
out the megabucks for the Lingo supply)?

Please e-mail replies to wkung@sail.uwaterloo.ca
From: n8846069@henson.cc.wwu.edu (BarryB)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Funny ELITIST SNOBS
Date: 17 Nov 92 04:04:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Nov17.040452.21600
Organization: Western Washington University

bbaker@novell.com (Brad Baker) writes:

>In article <1992Nov15.104325.22786@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n8846069@henson.cc.wwu.edu (BarryB) writes:
>>OK, DUDEZ, LET ME FIRST STATE THAT I AM IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH
>>THE DUDEZ THAT WHO ARE FEED UP WITH THE HIGH-END ELITIST SNOBS
>>WHO SIGNON TO THIS BBOARD.  THESE IDIOTS THINK YOU NEED TO
>>SPEND A ZILLION DOLLARS ON A SYSTEM TO GET GOOD SOUND.  WELL
>>THE JOKES ON THEM!  AND DON'T TELL ME I HAVEN'T HEARD A GOOD
>>HIGH-END SYSTEM!  MY FRIEND HAS A $1000 SONY RACK SYSTEM.
>>IT HAS BIG MOTHER SPEAKERS WITH 15 INCH WOOFERS THAT REALLY
>>VIBRATE THE WHOLE ROOM!  AND TO TOP IT ALL OFF, THESE BABIES
>>ARE RATED FOR 500 WATTS!!!  OK, SO DON'T GIVE ME THIS SHIT
>>ABOUT NOT KNOWING WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
>>
>>TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, MY $200 SOUNDESIGN SYSTEM SOUNDS
>>JUST AS GOOD.  THE BASS SOUNDS JUST AS BIG!  THE SECRET
>>IS TO ADJUST THE BASS CONTROL TO MAX.  TRY IT ON SOME
>>OF THESE CHEAPER SYSTEMS.  IT REALLY CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE!!!!
>>ADJUST THE SYSTEM BEFORE YOU JUDGE!  GEEESH HOW HARD
>>CAN IT BE???
>>
>>LATER DUDEZ.....

>Hey....No posting of jokes on this newsgroup.

HEY DUDE!  WHO DIED AND MADE YOU GOD OF THE BBOARD?  I'M GONNA
TURN YOU IN TO THE COLLEGE COUNCIL!!!!

>Funny stuff though...:-) 

It's good to hear somebody thought it was funny.  I've received
many mail messages from people who thought I was serious.  Which
is really a laugh in itself.  But somewhat understandable concidering
I've known several people who were very close to my characterization.

-BarryB
From: klein@napali.Eng.Sun.COM (Mike Klein)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Sony GX99ES Surround Sound Receiver
Date: 18 Nov 1992 21:24:05 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA
Distribution: world
Reply-To: klein@napali.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: napali

In article 3340271@hpcc01.corp.hp.com, kirk@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kirk Lindstrom) writes:
>>I was wondering if anyone out there has this unit and what they
>>thought of it?  I was also wondering if there are any other
>>units that have similar features from a different copmany.


I took a look at the Sony a few weeks ago.  My opinion on it (pure
opinion) is that it is tremendously overladen with features you won't
use, and those features seem to be the main selling point of the unit.

From the people I've talked to who have Pro-Logic receivers and with my
experience on one I just bought (not Sony), most useful are basically
only two modes: straight Pro-Logic, possibly with a few wrinkles such
as Yamaha's extended or 70mm mode, and bypass (no processing at all).

I didn't want to pay anything extra for the Sony features so passed it
up.

---

Mike Klein		{wherever}!sun!klein || mike.klein@Eng.Sun.COM
Sun Microsystems, Inc.	Mountain View, CA

Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Subject: Re: Help!
Reply-To: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 20:11:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.223929.19874@bilver.uucp> bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) writes:
>
>While the erstwhile Tom Edison is know for having invented the
>phonograph, he did not invent the record.  His phonograph used
>cylinders.

As far as I know, Edison *did* make discs also, but the groove was vertical
instead of horizontal.

>Emile also invented that wonderful device that we all know and low so
>well - the microphone.

Hm?  I would think that we'd credit the first microphone with Alexander
Graham Bell...


--
Gabe Wiener - Columbia Univ.     "This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings 
gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu       to be seriously considered as a means of 
N2GPZ in ham radio circles        communication. The device is inherently of
72355,1226 on CI$                 no value to us." -Western Union memo, 1877
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: rsd@sei.cmu.edu (Richard S D'Ippolito)
Subject: Re: Help!
Organization: The Software Engineering Institute
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:45:26 GMT


In article <1992Nov19.223929.19874@bilver.uucp>, Bill Vermillion quizzes:

|> Now for today's trivia question.  Which of today's musical instruments
|> is a decendant of the sackbut.

The trombone (from the italian large _tromba_, or horn) is essentially a
sackbut (or sacbut) with most of the difference being in the mouthpiece size
and bell flare.

So, where'd the oboe come from?

Rich
From: csc@malone.austin.ibm.com (Chris Cheyney)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: scms specification
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:53:45 GMT
Organization: IBM AWD - Austin, TX

Howdy folks -

I'm not sure whether someone's asked for this, but I'd like to
get a copy of the SCMS specification.  It would be quite helpful
if it were online somewhere ..... otherwise, information on where
I could purchase this thing would help.

Thanks in advance .....

chris
---
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11400 Burnet Rd., Austin TX 78758     | message are independent of IBM.
Internet: csc@malone.austin.ibm.com   |____________________________________
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Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: sloan@iastate.edu (Eric R Sloan)
Subject: Re: FOR SALE!!!
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:35:44 GMT

In article <BxqEIH.9CE@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> nwsedlak@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Neil Sedlak) writes:
>JVC RX-505VTN Receiver
>	Dolby Surround-Sound
>	80 watts per channel front
>	20 watts per channel rear surro  
>	5-band S.E.A. Graphic Equilizer
>	4 sets of audio inputs, 2 sets of video inputs.
>	Connections for two pairs of front speakers.
>	Includes remote control.
>
>		$150
>
>Leave E-mail to me or reply by phone at (703)232-3658
Just to help Neil out a little bit here.......

It's got a 7 band EQ not a 5.

I own the same model and I am very pleased with it.. It's got every thing 
I need and It sounds great too.... If you are trying to build your first
system and need a medium power receiver, this one sounds pretty good. I've had
mine for 2 years and have had no problems.  If you can get it for $150 you
got yourself a good deal!
   
                                     sloan@iastate.edu
                                     Eric Sloan
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

.sig flie has been censored by Iowa State University. Because ISU is god.
and because they say so..........
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: owen@emds.enet.dec.com (Steve Owen)
Subject: Re: DCC -- JUST SAY NO!  (was: The end of cassettes,
Organisation: Digital Equipment Corporation, Maynard MA
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:02:51 GMT


In article <1992Nov18.202726.454@metrosoft.com#>, gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen) writes...
#>In article <27628@oasys.dt.navy.mil#> curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)  
#>writes:
#>#> I just got done reading the review of the Philips DCC900 DCC deck in
#>#> this month's Stereo Review (everyone interested in DCC and MD should
#>#> pick up a copy of this).  The reviewer concludes: "...anyone who
#>#> expects to find that perceptual coding is hokum, or that their ears
#>#> transcend the physiological constraints upon which it is based, will be
#>#> shocked by the very high-fidelity sound DCC actually delivers.  There
#>#> is absolutely no question that it rivals CD sound quality."
#>#> 
#>Don't forget that these are the same people that have claimed that CD players  
#>all sound the same. "Very high-fidelity" is an interesting term from a magazine  
#>that mostly reviews mid-fi components.

And don't forget amps... all amps sound the same too.  And CD's are perfect 
sound... there can not be any better.  8^)

Then ask Stereo Review why Sony has decided that CD's don't sound so hot and 
that they can be improved upon...

Later...
Steve
From: bobschulien@cup.portal.com (Robert John Schulien)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: OPINION on SPEAKERS needed
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 19:51:08 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Pascalis Ligdas writes:
> I am looking for speakers in the range of $200-$350/pair. So far I've
> had the following recommendations:
> 
>         Bose 301 (w/ free space array ) 
>         Bose Freestyle
>         Cerwin Vega AT-10
>         Cerwin Vega VS100

Bose speakers sound nice, in my opinion, if they are properly placed and
equalized for the walls being used.  I don't use an equalizer so I don't
have Bose speakers.  As far as the CV speakers go, the ones that I have
been exposed to look to have been designed for loud music full of bass.
I really didn't think too much about their high end which is the first
thing you should be looking for in a speaker (Classical).  Look around some
more and listen.  In my biased view, try the Infinity RS types, Boston
Accoustics, or maybe Celestions.
Bob Schulien          bobschulien@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.audio,rec.music.folk,rec.arts.wobegon
From: trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Tim Russell)
Subject: Re: Hi Fi VCR for taping audio FM? (Re: A Timer/Recorder for AM/FM Radio?)
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:24:57 GMT

ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:

>2) How important is auto-tracking? The Samsung doesn't have it; a 
>   Sony that cost perhaps another $13 had it, but the Samsung had 
>   an "index search" feature so I bought it. I fiddled with the 
>   tracking but couldn't discern a difference. 


    Auto-tracking is a convenience mostly, but for some poorer tapes, esp.
rented ones, it can be a requirement.  Usually it just saves you the hassle
of having to adjust the tracking knob yourself on tapes that are slightly
off-track with your VCR's normal setting.

    As for the Sony Hi-Fi not having index search, I find that VERY hard
to believe.  It is almost definitely there on a Sony Hi-Fi VCR.

--
   Tim Russell                 Omaha, NE              trussell@unomaha.edu
      "Hate is not a family value.  Boycott Colorado." - Melinda Shore
From: sh09@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (STEVEN HIGGINS)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re:
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:13:43 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Nov18.151555@trc.amoco.com>, znpt01@trc.amoco.com (Norman P. Tra
cy) writes:
>
>I can picture this life size...........
>Reviewer - "Sorry about the DCC900 review but Andrew is about to hit us,
>gotta evacuate."
>Editor (snug as a bug in a rug in his New York office) - "WHAT!!!! Phillips
>has bought two page ads in every issue for the rest of the year. I've
>GOT to have that review or your (line breaks up as tree falls on wires)."
>Reviewer - "But boss .."
>Editor - No buts, you've got the only DCC900 in North America an I WILL have
>your review in my fax hopper or you'll never see another Pioneer A/V receiver
>for as long as you live.  Fail me and you'll never work in this town again!"
>Reviewer - "Yes, sir."
>Hanging up his phone the dejected Reviewer returns to the equipment rack.
>As the 50mph winds beat rain against his windows he loads the CD and DCC
>with identical copies of 'Oliva Newtion John's Greatest Hits'.  Taking his
>place in the Listening Chair he picks up the remotes to begin the critical
>test upon which millions of audiophiles throughout the english speaking
>world will base their judgements.
>
>Norman Tracy (ntracy@trc.amoco.com)
>

    But Norm,

    Has Stereo Review truly ever flamed _ANYTHING_???  I got tired of reading
    their reviews in about 1990, when it was evident that everything they
    tested was wonderful.

    I started reading AUDIO after that; while their reviews are a bit more
    technical, I _HAVE_ seen them tell the reader when crap is crap.  Rare,
    but they obviously aren't afraid to do so.

    p.s.  - Liked the Olivia Newton John part, though I'm no fan.  Barry
    Manilow's greatest flops would have been good too.

    
-- 

~Steve
sh09@lehigh.edu
From: lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: the rest of us: Blind leading blind?
Date: 17 Nov 92 01:32:10 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

In article <9044@arccs1.fed.FRB.GOV> m1mlr00@fed.frb.gov (Mark L Rodini) writes:
> Being fairly poor myself, I understand where your coming from, BUT,
>perhaps the reason I'm poor is that I've spent my money on interests
>other than hi-fi equipment, which implies that I have not devoted
>myself to becoming a stereophile expert.

   Hard as it is to believe, lotsa posters on this group have lives
   and interests outside of audio...and spend accordingly.
From: chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Chris Christensen)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: DCC -- JUST SAY NO!  (was: The end of cassettes,
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:36:36 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

When yous guys are blathering about DCC please use the term "Data
Compression" instead of just "Compression".......Please.  Compression
means different things to different people.......

As a side note,  I can't believe the ammount of mis-information going
around on this topic!

-- 
Chris Christensen                  The opinions I express are my own,
chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com            and sometimes they are wrong!
916-478-3419 FAX 916-478-3887      After all, I *AM* only human.
Newsgroups: rec.audio,rec.music.folk,rec.arts.wobegon
From: kosts@ursa.calvin.edu (Steven Koster)
Subject: Re: Hi Fi VCR for taping audio FM? (Re: A Timer/Recorder for AM/FM Radio?)
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:54:46 GMT

ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:

>Some questions for you Hi Fi VCR users out there:

>1) Is recording in SLP (or whatever its called - 6 hours on a "120" 
>   tape) OK for good audio? I'm not out for CD quality here.. just 
>   120 minute cassette off-the-air FM quality.

	Well, I'm no expert on consumer equipment, but:

	-An audio casette records at somrthing like 2 inches per second.
	-A video tape (at *SP* speed) records linear audio at
		something like 8 inches per second.
	-A video tape (at *SP* speed) records hi-fi audio at
		(virtually) 200 inches per second.

	I suppose, if the logic holds, hi-fi audio at *SLP* (or EP)
		speed is recorded at virtually 67 inches/second.
	So, Hi-Fi is obviously higher quality, even at SLP.

	But, please note, Hi-fi audio is recorded *underneath*
	the video signal. SO, just to be sure,
	Always record hi-fi audio along with some video signal.
	I've no idea if it would work without a video signal.


>2) How important is auto-tracking? The Samsung doesn't have it; a 
>   Sony that cost perhaps another $13 had it, but the Samsung had 
>   an "index search" feature so I bought it. I fiddled with the 
>   tracking but couldn't discern a difference. 

	Tracking, I believe, is an adjustment to align your video
	heads to the video tracks. If you have snow on your picture,
	it may be because the heads aren't scanning the video tracks 
	in their entirty. So, if you use the tracking adjustment to 
	align the heads closer to the tracks, you may eliminate the snow.

--
Steven J. Koster   =========================================================
 Calvin College Video Productions      |   "In theory, there's no difference
 Grand Rapids, MI  49546   USA         |   between theory and practice.    
 kosts@calvin.edu    CIS: 72020,3342   |   In practice, there is." --Unknown
From: jeh@cmkrnl.com
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Question on A/V Receiver usage
Date: 17 Nov 92 09:29:30 GMT
Organization: Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego, CA

In article <1e8no1INNa1t@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>, twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Nov15.110026.870@cmkrnl.com> jeh@cmkrnl.com writes:
>>Visualize a standard stereo receiver.  Now add a couple of extra sets of input
>>and output phono jacks, each with a third jack labelled "video".  These
>>correspond to new settings on the source selector and tape switches:  TV, LD
>>player, and (in the tape area) VCR 1 and VCR 2.  Now you can push one button to
>>(for example) feed VCR 1 video to the TV and feed VCR 1's audio to your main
>>sterep speakers.  

Someone else mentioned that these "A/V receivers" often include one form of
surround sound decoder or another, plus low-power amps to drive the rear 
speakers, as well.  

> What I have is a stereo VCR that's hooked up to my stereo system hence I
> can do this same thing already. So a A/V Receiver will mean no benefits
> for me? Are there other usages for A/V Receivers I can't conceive of as
> yet? Thanks in advance.

If you only have one video source, the VCR, in a standard antenna-feeds-VCR-
feeds-TV/monitor chain, then no, the A/V receiver's switching capability won't
give you anything you don't have now.  It would come in handy if you ever add
another VCR, an LD player, or want to easily patch in a camcorder for editing
onto the VCR, etc.

A/V receivers with built-in surround sound decoders and amps will help you if
you don't already have these functions in other units, or if you want to cut 
down on the number of separate "pieces" in your system. 

	--- Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego CA
Internet:  jeh@cmkrnl.com, hanrahan@eisner.decus.org, or jeh@crash.cts.com
Uucp:  ...{crash,eisner,uunet}!cmkrnl!jeh
From: lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: DCC -- JUST SAY NO!  (was: The end of cassettes,
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:24:07 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Nov18.041231.12460@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> whs70@dancer.cc.bellcore.com (sohl,william h) writes:
>
>If the costs of blank tape are too high, any medium will not make
>a significant dent in the analog cassette market.  If DCC and MD tapes
>are more expensive than DAT, then DAT will likely survive and perhaps
>become the digital tape standard over the other two.
>
   I'd beg to differ with that reasoning.  The ability to record at
   home has very little effect on the market.  The cassette didn't
   begin to grow a substantial mainstream market until pre-recorded
   material became available--as an alternative to LP's.  

   MOST home cassette decks could be play-only and not affect the
   market a bit.   Ditto for VCR's.  Strange that the buying public
   doesn't buy play-only models, as that is how most are operated.
   [although more VCR's are used to record than cassettes...still
   the MAJOR useage for both is playback of pre-recorded material..]

   It is really only the "lunatic" or enthusiast fringe of audio
   that does any appreciable home audio taping--self serving
   statements from the record companies to the contrary.

>Well, I've seen several DCC commercials in the last few days, so
>I guess it is making its debut now.

   They've got them in the stores here already.
From: kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Interesting function on an old Dennon CD player
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:43:50 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b64746.student.cwru.edu

In article <1992Nov18.085446.18282@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> pn002b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (peter christopher norton) writes:
>I was wondering, audiophiles, about a C.D. player that I bought a long time
>ago from a friend who was moving away....
>
>The interesting feature is an "Index" button, which I haven't been able to
>figure out... meaning I lost the manual soon after I got it home. 
>Otherwise, I've been in love with it for the past few years, but if there's
>something useful that I can do with it, please tell me.  

	The "index" function was originally meant to be on all CD players, 
as I am to understand it. The main purpose was convinience on long tracks. 
There are some works of music which are long and continious, some 
symphanies, etc. Instead of breaking these into seperate tracks, they were 
supposed to be indexed by the movements. That is: Tracks are for seperate 
peices of music or songs, and Indexes were for movements within a single 
piece.	However, very very few CD's were ever made with indexing. My father 
owns an older Denon with the index feature. I believe he only has one CD 
with indexing. 

	So now, if you have a long track (10-70 min), and if you want to 
listen to only part of it, you have to fast forward it, instead of just 
skipping indexes. I have found that on my CD players, ( both Denon's) that I 
can 'pause' it first, then the fast forward in inaudable, but about four 
times as fast.

	HTH.

	Sigh, why didn't they put that and title readouts on CD players and 
CD's are beyond me.
Newsgroups: rec.audio,rec.arts.wobegon,rec.radio.shortwave
From: kosts@ursa.calvin.edu (Steven Koster)
Subject: Re: Hi Fi VCR for taping audio FM?
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 04:04:01 GMT

johna@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (John J. Allison) writes:

>I'm no expert either, but I have always heard that you should NOT
>record a video signal if you're recording off the radio, because
>it can interfere unnecessarily with the audio signal. Of course it

Well, it's possible for some cross-talk between the linear audio 
tracks and the helical video tracks, but I doubt it. 
I'd expect more trouble from using the RF out of the VCR rather
than the line outs. (My old B/W tv buzzes when a white screen comes
on, for example).

But the hi-fi helical tracks are recorded side-by-side/underneath
the video helical tracks. Ain't to big a thing for recording,
I suppose, but VCR's try hard to find and stick to the timing
pulses in the video signal on *playback*, and if those
pulses are missing, lord knows what it might do in terms of
stable playback. 

Then again, some VCR's may not record hi-fi at all if there's 
no video to record it with. I dunno.

Home VCRs seem to be fairly generous in terms of dealing with
bad/unusual recordings, however.
 
I still recommend recording some video source on any video tape.
Otherwise you might confuse your VCR on playback.

--
Steven J. Koster   =========================================================
 Calvin College Video Productions      |   "In theory, there's no difference
 Grand Rapids, MI  49546   USA         |   between theory and practice.    
 kosts@calvin.edu    CIS: 72020,3342   |   In practice, there is." --Unknown