From: mzhao@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Min Zhao)
Subject: Re: The media will choose the next president
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:12:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.170051.29045@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> mulac@daystrom.lerc.nasa.gov (Richard Mulac) writes:
>>What poll was this? The only poll you could get these numbers is a 
>>poll of Republican delegates. And that poll means very little. 
> 
>  These were the responses from the groups they interviewed that night.
>You would have expected their responses to be 20% more in favor of Clinton,
>but instead they ran 75% Bush and 25% undecided.
 
    I've read several of your laughable articles arguing with laughable
facts and reasoning.  Look, that Nightline show you have been referring to
only had 10 or so people interviewed, a group of three or four fire fighters
from Houston and another group of a few people from NJ. From there you have
been drawing conclusion that "MAJORITY" will vote for BUSH, "MAJORITY" think
they are better off than 4 years ago.  "MAJORITY" of what, "MAJORITY" of that
10 or so people ?   Come on.  Show us you have a little more intelligence 
than Dan Quyalee. 
 

>
>>2 of my 4 family members are unemployed.
>>(and yes, they are all over 21. Both unemployed members have electronic
>>degrees.)
>>
>>Last winter a friend of mine graduated from Cal Poly with an EE and a
>>grade point average of 3.45. He still hasn't found a job. Neither has 
>>most of the people he graduated with.
>
>  With the defense build down, I would think that there is a great over
>supply of people with an electronics specialty.  I would hope that the
>consumer electronics market could expand to accommodate those people.  I
>have not heard Clinton say what he would do to improve that particular
>market.
>
>>  Over half my graduating class (which didn't deserve to
>>>graduate) came from blue collar union groomed families which had fathers
>>>getting high pay for low skill jobs.
>>
>>My dad is a member of the IBEW. He needed 2 years of school and 
>>aprenticeship to do his job. Do you have any idea what you are talking
>>about?
>>
>>  They went through school with their
>>>'D' averages thinking that the unions would always be there to provide big
>>>bucks jobs for illiterates.
>>
>>Either your friends didn't know anything about unions, or you don't.
>>Which decade are you thinking of?
>
>   Come to Cleveland.  During the sixties and seventies you could get a
>high paying union job at either the steel mills or the auto factories with
>no previous experience.  Jobs were usually given out based on who you knew.
>I don't think the situation here was unique.  Like you say, there are some
>union trades which require years of training.
>
>> Every time I here
>>>someone bitching because there is not enough student aid or loans available
>>>I recall all the people I met as an undergraduate whose primary purpose in
>>>going to college was to avoid going to work and keep the party from high
>>>school going. 
>>
>>I'm going to assume that you haven't been to school in some time.
>>Becuase school, for middle-class people like me, is something you 
>>fit around work. (I've been trying to put myself through school for
>>5 years now.)
>
>   I got my undergraduate and graduate degrees during the eighties and I
>don't think the general campus atmosphere has changed much.  A LOT of
>partying still goes on in the undergraduate ranks.  I read once that at
>most US schools the trend is that at the end of freshman year, half the
>class is gone, at the end of sophomore year the class is reduced by half
>again, etc..  So the final graduating class size is about 1/16 that of the
>original freshman enrollment.
>
>
>-- 
>Richard Mulac                                     mulac@daystrom.lerc.nasa.gov
>NASA Lewis Research Center, 21000 Brookpark Road, MS 5-9, Cleveland, OH  44135
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>a world champion speller." - Vice-President Dan Quayle  |      are my own!    


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