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From: drwho@wpi.WPI.EDU (Eric Ant Von Laudermann)
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:19:42 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.050957.24082@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> sboiarsk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sean L Boiarski) writes:
>Either Warlock, or High Lander II. Both because of the anticipation factor 

I LOVED Warlock!  I found it very intelligent.  The plot flowed
smoothly, no scenes were unnecessary, the screen didn't ooze with
buckets of gore, and their were no inconsistencies.  I was under the
the impression that the movie was well-received by critics and
net.people.

>Sean Boiarski

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From: nmamatas@csws5.ic.sunysb.edu (Nicholas Mamatas)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Dracula
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:18:33 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook

In article <1992Aug31.155715.25780@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen) writes:
>
>Philip Stephens writes:
>
>>braca2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au (BRAY CHRISTOPHER) writes:                       
>                                                                              
>>>Query: Lucy, played by Winona Ryder.                                    
>                                                                             
>>>I may sound dumb, but what other films has this lucky lass been in?
>>>Intrigued, so I can see if she fits my image of lucy.
>                                 
>>She has been in:                       
>                                                
>>  Beetlejuice                   (the weird girl in black)
>>  Edward Scissorhands           (love interest to Edward)
>>  Heathers                      (played Veronica)
>>  Night on Earth                (first taxi driver segment)
>>  Welcome Home Roxy Carmichael  (thought she was Roxy's daughter)
>                                                  
>>to name those I have seen her in.  Her natural hair colour is dark, but she's
>>been a blonde in Edward Scissorhands.  I'd say she'd make a good Lucy.
>                                                               
>>  Philip Stephens
>>  Labtam Australia Pty Ltd
>>  philip@labtam.labtam.oz.au
>
>Also, don't forget _Mermaids_ with Cher and Bob Hoskins.
>And here's an interesting one. Several months ago I caught
>a rerun of the movie _Lucas_ starring Charlie Sheen from
>the early 1980s. Winona Ryder has a supporting role and
>she can't be more than 10 years old.
>
>
>Mark B. Bendiksen
>cb366@freenet.cwru.edu
>-- 
>"If we don't get some cool rules ourselves, pronto,
> We'll just be bogus, too."-- Dr. Jeff Spicolli

	She was also in 1969...and I think she was thirteen or 
twelve when LUCAS came out.


			-NK-
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From: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Best shots wanted
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:08:41 GMT
Reply-To: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)

In article <3777@cvbnetPrime.COM>, csroc@dime.prime.com (Charles
Sroczynski x4014 5-2) writes:
|>>3) RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK - The fight around the airplane, as it
|>>slowly rotates. The fire chasing around the plane in the background
|>>took some real timing.
|>
|>Kind of shocked that you(or anyone else) would mention the timing
|>of this shot...there was no continuous action...and no timing in 
|>this,(nor in many of the Indy movie action shots).  These shots are
|>created by editing.  You never see the fighters, the girl, the plane,
|>and the gasoline fire at the same time in anything resembling a 
|>continuous fashion. By rights, the girl, Indy, and the Nazi should have
|>been killed by the explosion and fire about five minutes before they
|>escaped;  the timing was so far off that I feel it lost much of the 
|>suspense and realism that could have been here.
           
   Bah Humbug! That scene looked great. I agree with the original
poster; it may have been pulled off using editing but it had a great
sense of exciting perfect timing. movies are, after all, all about illusion :-)
  
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From: thogek@seismo.gps.caltech.edu (Thomas Kiefer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: "Irrelevant" scenes (was Re: sex in movies)
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:03:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena

In article <6073@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil> jxxl@cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke) writes:
>I didn't make the assertion, but I'll argue the point. The harm is to
>the artistic integrity of the film. The film should contain only those
>incidents and characters that further the plot and its themes. Anything
>else is irrelevant and draws the viewer away from the essence of the
>work, which is artistically counterproductive.

But realistic.  In real life (which most films are trying to get you to
believe their story could exist in, so you'll be interested), a particular
plot will hardly ever be the only thing going on, and to depict it as such
is unreal.  Some background development/characterization is necessary (to
me, anyway) to show that other life is going on (if it is).  Okay, an orgy
in the background might be unnecessarily distracting, but showing someone
cooking or cleaning or having another discussion through a background
apartment window could be perfectly realistic.  Just like putting cars other
than the main characters' on the road, putting people other than the main
characters on the sidewalk, etc., make things a little more believable.



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From: funga@ecf.toronto.edu (FUNG Alexander Yok-Wai)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Stay Tuned Question
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:32:32 GMT
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility

In article <wecULpm00Uh7Q1C3h9@andrew.cmu.edu> "Marvin H. Blachman" <mb2i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>Anyway, I could kill myself for not paying closer attention to the
>credits. As many of you have probably seen on the commercial, there's a
>scene that has Ritter on the Three's Company set. The blond is obviously
>not any of the 3 blonds from the series, but my question is whether
>that's really Joyce Dewitt (Janet). It sure looks a lot like her (at
>least I remembered to look closely during the scene, but forget to
>follow the credits). Can anybody who's seen the movie confirm this one
>way or the other?
>
I've only seen the commercial myself, but it's pretty clear to me that it
is NOT Joyce DeWitt. The resemblance isn't even very strong.


-- 
Alex (funga@ecf.toronto.edu)
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From: hafner@ifi.unizh.ch (Michel Hafner)
Subject: Re: What is the name of this movie?
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 14:51:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.195656.12521@colorado.edu> citrin@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Wayne Citrin) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.175521.23150@cs.wisc.edu> michaili@blondie.cs.wisc.edu (Afroditi Michailidi) writes:
>>  To tie this with the "inane title change" thread that run a while back,
>>this was billed in Greece as "Please kill my wife". Must say this added to
>>the film, though :-)
>And on Swiss (or maybe it was German) TV, it was entitled "Die unglaubliche

German cinema and TV and German-Swiss TV ( German import ).

>Entfuehrung der verrueckten Mrs. Stone"  (The Unbelievable Abduction of the
>Crazy Mrs. Stone).  I'm not sure that there's a good word for "ruthless" in
>German.

What about:
- Die vor nichts halt machen    ( very popular since "Der mit dem Wolf tanzt" )
- Skrupellos

								M.H.
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: great voices
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:34:29 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: usa
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH


In article <1992Aug26.222234.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu> rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes:

>In a recent discussion of "field of dreams" I was struck by a memory ... I 
>think that movie may have the two best voices in all of Moviedom,
>
>James Earl Jones
>Burt Lancaster

I definately agree on James Earl Jones.

When I was working in a bookstore in New Haven CT, Mr. Jones used
to come in (he was doing a play at the Yale rep) a couple of times
a week.

Nice guy, incredible voice (even in person).  Such depth, so many
subtle tones to his speaking.

The first time I saw him the twit behind the register was in
the process of explaining to The Voice that we couldn't accept a 
$50.00 traveler's check (store policy was no bill over $20.00).

I went to the register, told the twit I thought the check was 
probably good and that we would risk it.  When Mr. Jones said
"Thank You" I thought I was going to die.  Darth Vader, thanking _me_!

-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
From: tdbear@tandon.com (Tom Barrett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: sex in movies
Keywords: and violence, and kids
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:28:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tandon Corporation, Moorpark, CA

In article <Aug.27.12.22.12.1992.24240@cadenza.rutgers.edu> masticol@cadenza.rutgers.edu (Steve Masticola) writes:
>Me too. I was in "Unforgiven" last week, and sat behind a couple who
>had brought in two small (<= 8 years old) girls.

It is a shame that most theaters do not bother to educate
their patrons on the content of the movies.  I guess they
assume that everyone watches movie review programs and/or
reads about them in the paper or on BBSes/*nets.  They have
also probably been fussed at when they make the suggestion
that small children should not see a certain movie.  In the
age of video, it wouldn't be soooo hard to have a video-based
movie "poster" setup for each movie to not only show the
previews, but also point out the adult content (if any).  The
well-informed parent can then decide if they want to expose
their children to the movie.

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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: sex in movies
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:11:09 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: WeasElectro Productions: Television/Movies/Comics

tdbear@tandon.com (Tom Barrett) writes:

> It is a shame that most theaters do not bother to educate their patrons
> on the content of the movies.  I guess they assume that everyone watches
> movie review programs and/or reads about them in the paper or on BBSes/
> *nets. 

It's a bigger shame that so many theater patrons are too lazy to be
bothered with educating *themselves* about the content of movies . . .
surely anyone who wants more detailed information than the ratings provide
is capable of finding those things out on their own.  If I were a theatre
owner, I wouldn't feel any particular obligation to cater to people who
can't be bothered to pick up a newspaper and read a review of a movie
before they take their kids to see it.  

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
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From: etxsahm@eua.ericsson.se (Marten.Sahlen)
Subject: Re: erotic movies
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 07:36:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.1489.27273@channel1> "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com> writes:
>
			<...>
>
>     Foreign movies are well-known for being more open and free with
>their sexual content, and this is a point in their favour.  There are
>many classics of the foreign screen that I have yet to see as well,
>and any advice in this direction would be most appreciated.  ("Jean De

Off the top of my head I'll list some European movies for you that contain a
fair amount of nudity/eroticism/sex, and have a decent plot as well. Some of
the titles may be different in the US, I've translated them from the original
language.

'Betty Blue' by Jean Jacques Beneix (France)
'The Double Life Of Veronique' by K. Kieslowski (Poland/France)
'Matador', 'Tie Me Up Tie Me Down', 'High Heels' by Pedro Almodovar (Spain)
'Manifesto' by Dusan Makavejev (Yugoslavia)
'La Grande Bouffe' by Marco Ferreri (Italy/France)
'The Tin Drum' by Volker Schloendorff (Germany)
'Canterbury Tales', 'Decamerone', 'Salo' by Pier Paolo Pasolini (Italy)
'The Venus Trap' by Robert Van Ackeren (Holland, I think)
'The Bee-keeper' by Theo Angelopoulos (Greece)
'Sammy And Rosie', 'Dangerous Liasions' by Steven Frears (UK)

Let me to this list add any movie by Peter Greenaway, and also check out
movies by the Kaurismaki brothers from Finland.

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From: rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Possible Foundation movie?
Date: 23 Aug 92 22:22:54 GMT
Organization: Exile Government of Bramming

lintz@buster.cis.udel.edu (Brian Lintz) writes:

>Well, this isn't exactly a classic, but I think Orson Scott Card's
>_Ender's Game_ would translate pretty well. 

I disagree. A major part of the parts (..) will be played by children.
Child actors can spoil almost any movie due to the "cuteness trap".
-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (*MAJOR SPOILERS*)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 02:48:10 GMT
Organization: WeasElectro Productions: Television/Movies/Comics

iott@rtsg.mot.com (Joel K. Iott) writes:

> The following post contains MAJOR spoilers for Twin Peaks:Fire Walk With
> Me.  It is intended to be read by people who have already seen the
> movie. 

Not to be rude, Joel, but you missed an *awful* lot -- I suggest you see it
again.  In the meantime, this should clear up a few of your questions:

> In the train car, an angel appears and saves Ronette Pulaski.  The angel
> appears later in the red room (?) 

The angel is Laura.

> The one-armed man manages to make it to the train car, open it up, and
> pull out Ronette Pulaski. 

Mike doesn't pull Ronette out of the car -- Leland *throws* her out.

> Also: did Leland kill Jacques Renault outside the cabin or not???

No, just knocked him senseless.

> At the end of the movie, a woman is shown in the red room.

Laura again.

> Someone shows up next to Laura in her bed with her throat cut.

Annie, telling Laura that the Good Cooper was trapped in the Lodge (as shown
in the series finale) and warning her to write that down in her diary.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

"No date by eight? Inflate! Inflate!"
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From: charest@Aig.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Len Charest)
Subject: Re: Most Maddening Movie
Reply-To: charest@aig.jpl.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA/Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 20:47:33 GMT

|> masticol@cadenza.rutgers.edu (Steve Masticola) writes:
|> 
|> >Here's a new topic: which movie made you the angriest? For whatever
|> >reason.

"Bird on a Wire" Pure market-researched garbage. Grrrrr. I get mad just
thinking about it.
 
..................................................
                                  Len Charest, Jr.
                 JPL Artificial Intelligence Group
                          charest@aig.jpl.nasa.gov
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From: k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (ce)
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Organization: Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum GmbH, Hamburg
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 07:19:03 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.203608.8723@morrow.stanford.edu> AH.PBL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark) writes:
>In article <92245.082714CXF111@psuvm.psu.edu>,
>CXF111@psuvm.psu.edu (Charles Fee) writes:
>>In article <w-jnnna.bagus@netcom.com>, bagus@netcom.com (Mark E. Ruedy) says:
>>>
>>>That would be "Space Balls", (I think thats the title).  The cast included
>>>Rick Moranis, and others.  Didn't sound too bad, but *boy* was it shit!
>>>
>>Huh? I laughed and laughed and laughed.. I still watch that movie to this day..
>>One of the funniest movies I've ever seen. This is Mel Brooks at his
>>absolute best!                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>  You obviously haven't seen "The Producers".
>
Or Blazing Saddles
   Young Frankenstein
   High Anxiety
   
In fact the only Brooks film I would rate *lower* than Spaceballs is
History of the World Part I. But even so it wasn't embarrassing to watch.

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
From: donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Keywords: n
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:58:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.144028.12817@hou.amoco.com> zklf0b@gs144.uucp (Fergason) writes:
>
>
>Does anyone recall 'LaserBlast'?  boy find alien artifact, starts
>blasting things.  I don't know how it ended, because I left.  And this
>was a midnight movie at Aggiecon, where things like 'Attack of the
>Killer tomatos' is a normal movie.
>
>I thought 'Hardware' was pretty pointless.
>
>Kelly

I agree on both counts, but at least "Laserblast" seemed to know it was
stupid. "Hardware" had some glowing reviews from people who should've known
better <i.e. Fangoria> and had hopes high. "Laserblast" was pretty obvious
from the poster and preview exactly how bad it was gonna be.

					--Judex--
<I did like the scene in Laserblast where he Destroys one of the Star Wars     
billboards that popped up all over California like Zits, that summer. Fine bit
of good clean Lucas bashing...heh>

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From: le01167@portal.lasc.lockheed.com (Ron Nadel (x2025))
Subject: Re: sex in movies
Summary: Sex In Movies
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Lockheed Aeronautical Systems Co. - Rye Canyon
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 19:57:44 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.134937.28189@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, jor1@hera.uucp (24315-rich) writes...

> 
>I don't think the problems are that the sex scenes are too explicit.
>The problem is that they are infused with hostility between man and
>woman.

I really think that many relationships between real men and real women 
are infused with hostility between partners, unfortunately.  I don't
think movies created this, nor do they sustain it.  This existed long
before movies (or almost any art form you can name).

Ron
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From: speters@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (Stephen Peters)
Subject: Re: Best shots wanted
Organization: Oracle World HQ, Redwood Shores, California
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:30:37 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Aug24.181047.27002@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> vvdat@convx1.lerc.nasa.gov (Deborah Griffin) writes:
>2. She's Having a Baby - when Kevin Bacon is in the waiting room thinking
>about the past 9 months and worrying about his wife and child.

I nominate one particular _moment_ of this scene -- the absolutely gorgeous
cut from a tear rolling down Kevin Bacon's face to a drop of blood splashing
onto the gleaming white floor of the OR.

				Stephen Peters
				Oracle Corp, SUN Tech Development

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From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (Two days and a wake-up...)
Subject: Re: Yet another name this movie!!
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 07:26:35 GMT

In article <Bto24w.76x@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, tesmer@sleepy.bio.purdue.edu (John Tesmer) writes...

} I recall when I was a child I watched a very intriguing (at least for
} me at that age) science fiction film (on PBS??) that was about a man
} who had dreams (I think that he was hooked up to some machine) such
} that when he woke up, the world had conformed to his dream.  [...]

THE LATHE OF HEAVEN, made for PBS and first broadcast in January 1980.
Before you ask, no, it's not available on home video, and never has
been. Supposedly, it's been withheld because of some squabble over the
rights. As a result, it hasn't even been broadcast for quite some time,
either.

-- 

	"She's my radiation baby.
	 She's my teenage fallout girl."

--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
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From: esa@acpub.duke.edu (EMILY ANGERER)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Date: 2 Sep 92 04:27:13 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

Pee-Wee's Big Adventure, although Cool World came pretty close.  I paid
full price for both.  Yuck.

-Emily
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: hafner@ifi.unizh.ch (Michel Hafner)
Subject: Least women in movie!
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 15:30:01 GMT

Which movie has the least women in its cast?

"Streamers" by Robert Altman: Zero! ( And many others.... )
								M.H.
From: joan@med.unc.edu (Joan Shields)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Most ridiculous sex scene (in a movie - not real life)
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:44:31 GMT
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Originator: joan@icard

All this talk of sex in movies has gotten me thinking... what is the most
ridiculous sex scene you've ever seen in a movie.  I don't mean sex scenes
that are meant to be funny, I mean sex scenes that are meant to be serious
(or at least tittilating) but instead left you gasping for air with
laughter.

My vote is sex on the moon in an inflatable dome with a 50000 year old (or
so) alien from the movie _Moontrap_ staring Walter Koneig (I hope he was
well paid for it).

Joan
"I'd walk a million miles for one of your smiless
 but I'd go a lot further for that thing you do with your tongue."
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