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From: paul@actrix.gen.nz (Paul Gillingwater)
Subject: Re: Backup to DAT over net
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 02:34:59 GMT

In article <TT.92Jul25102129@tarzan.jyu.fi> tt@tarzan.jyu.fi (Tapani Tarvainen) writes:
> In article <1992Jul23.170942.11576@cs.nott.ac.uk> pczip@mips.Berkeley.EDU (Ivan Powis) writes:
> rdump/rrestore should also work, with tar &c you can use a pipe
> through remsh (tar cf - /disk | remsh machineB dd of=/dev/rmt/0m ...
> etc).

I would beware of using dd with remsh and either tar or cpio.  There
are some alleged synchronization problems which can silently lose
data.  There is a program around called rsend which allegedly gets
around this problem.
-- 
Paul Gillingwater, paul@actrix.gen.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: good@gdwest.gd.com (CWP 570499236 Good)
Subject: Re: various questions/complaints
Keywords: 710, hpux, amd, script
Organization: General Dynamics Corp.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 22:28:18 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.182711.24883@doug.cae.wisc.edu> longstre@cae.wisc.edu (Jon Longstreth) writes:
>I've got three problems with the hpux 8.0 release
>
>First problem:
[...]

No clue.

>
>Second problem:
>running hpux 8.00 on model 345 and 425T with amd5.3b
>Amd seems to F up the mount maps pretty nicely.  After a period of use,
>say about one day, amd can no longer mount random directories, and 
>sometimes the mount map gets garbage in it 
>(i.e. mount -p prints out some garbage text)
>The only way to fix this is to reboot the machine.
>Killing amd tends to have bad even more ill effects on the mount table.
>Amd was compiled with the patches for hpux 8.0
>We have this same version  running on our 710 hpux 8.07 machines
>and it works wonderfully well.
>Any ideas out there?

This sounds exactly like the behavior I was getting on my 350 before I
installed the 8.0 patch for amd.  You'd better double-check that you
installed the patch properly.

>
>Third problem:
>back to the 710 running hpux 8.07
>the command 
>eval `resize -c`
>returns the error message
>broken pipe
>about half of the time.
>When it returns this message the shell is not updated properly,
>when it doesn't return this message it seems to update the shell ok.
>Any ideas?
>hints?
>clues?

Check your .cshrc or ksh ENV file for weird things, especially anything that
expects to talk to a tty.  Some of our Sun users have put things like:

 if (`tty` != "console")...

in their .cshrc, and caused themselves all kinds of trouble.  Hmmm. Come
to think of it, That could be a potential cause for Problem #1 as well.

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From: good@gdwest.gd.com (David L. Good)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Shared memory in 6.5
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:53:44 GMT
Organization: General Dynamics Corp.

In article <1992Jul21.150922.17048@bmers145.bnr.ca> jasonc@bnr.ca (Jason Chen) writes:
>
>Basically, I want to create a pair of client-server processes in where
>the server gets a shared memory segment and puts its pid in the segment,
>and the client gets the server pid and determines whethere the server is
>still running.  The reason I want the segment to be remove when shm_nattck
>equals zero is that the client can use this (shmget() failure) to determine
>the existence of the server.  As we all know that some signals can not be
>caught, and the pid could be reused by another process (it may take a
>long time, but ...).  I know that there are many other ways to do this
>e.g. using shmctl(IPC_STAT) to get shm_nattck, or using file with flock().
>We have decided to used file instead of shared memory.  I did learn some
>thing about shared memory.
>
>Jason
>

If all you need is to know whether the server is running or not,
you might consider using semaphores.  But, if you really need to be
able to pass the pid (maybe for some more complicated  processing),
semaphores won't quite do the job.  Also, like shared memory, semaphore
sets will stick around after the server dies if it dies unexpectedly or
gets killed in an "unfriendly" (i.e. "kill -9 ...") fashion.
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From: dgreen@sti.com (Dan R. Greening)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Offbrand disktab entries?  Mainly: Miniscribe M9380S.
Date: 30 Jul 92 00:55:33 GMT
Organization: Software Transformation, Inc.

I have this Miniscribe M9380S sitting in front of me; my boss, a Mac
freak, has bestowed it to me to solve a disk crisis on my HP 710.

So, my question: Is there a disktab entry for this unit that someone
could swipe with their mouse, and either post or mail to me?
Alternately (of course, this is the best solution) could someone point
me at an archive of off-brand disktab entries, via ftp?

Muchos gracias.
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From: rdg@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Rob Gardner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: D/A interface board in hp720???
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:52:11 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA


> I need to somehow hook up a D/A (16-bit) to my hp720 so I can play
> audio.  (We are doing speech processing research).  We bought EISA
> option to help make this possible.  HP has not been able to help me
> figure out how to do this.  Does anyone know?

You plug the card into your EISA slot. Then you order 98577-90013, which
is the HPUX Driver Development Guide, and write a driver to make your
D/A card talk. After several months of frustration, you post questions
to comp.sys.hp.

Rob
From: tonyc@a4430ux.esr.hp.com ( Tony Cox (SR) )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Looking for a company called 'Mentalix', based in TX I think.
Date: 18 Jul 92 12:15:02 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Rockville

Here is the address.....the guy to call is John Carnegie...

The product is called "Pixel!FX" and is from:

        Mentalix, Inc.
         1700 Alma Drive #110
         Plano, TX 75075
         Voice: (214)423-9377
tonyc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: kirschni@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Matthias Kirschnick ())
Subject: Re: Differential SCSI Jukebox faster?
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen, Germany
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 07:08:30 GMT
Keywords: jukebox, SCSI

andy@ian.stx.com (Andy Moore) writes:

>Would it be fair to say that a differential SCSI jukebox would be
>faster than single-ended SCSI?  How much faster?  A little (5-10%)?
>A lot (two to three times faster)?  Thanks for any data...
> 
>______________________________________________________________________________
>Andy Moore          "It is, quite frankly, a disgusting mess, and sounds like
> andy@ian.stx.com    someone trying to play the piano while two other people
>                     try to dismantle it..."  - Dave Stewart, "Keyboard" mag




I'm interested in this subject, too! Thanks for any hint, Matthias




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From: aaa@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Simon Fowler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Running HP clients on a Sun with OpenWin
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:58:20 GMT
Organization: the HP Response Center, Atlanta

>I have also been frustrated by this problem.  It occurs with a 720
>running HP-UX 8.07 and a 400 running HP-UX 8.0, typically taking about
>10 minutes to create an hpterm and display it on a Sparc 2 running
>OpenWindows 3.  However, an 847 running HP-UX 8.02 does not exhibit the
>problem.  What(1) reports:
>

 The bug has been reported to Sun (Sun bug id is 1076332). The problem
 exists only with OpenWindows 3.0. Any Motif 1.1 client will have this
 problem. A work-around is to set the following resource in the Sun
 X server:

   *useColorObj: false

Not an official position of Hewlett Packard Company (or me)

simon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: jah@cc.tut.fi (Ahonen Jari)
Subject: top-3.0 and HP/UX 8
Keywords: top,HP/UX,process,memory
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Finland
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 15:09:34 GMT


  What are the 'Zombie' processes which top displays? And how does it
categorize (sp?) memory? I found out that real+virtual+free=RAM+used swap.
So, what are the differences between 'real' and 'virtual' memory?
I thought that virtual memory is swap space but this probably isn't the
case with top.
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From: zenon@resonex.com (Zenon Fortuna)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Password Creation Problem
Keywords: passwd
Date: 24 Jul 92 00:45:09 GMT
Organization: Resonex Inc., Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Jul23.030159.3955@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk> a866700@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk (Wong Siu To) writes:
>Hi all,
>
>Hope that this's not an FAQ :) 
>
>We're going to create thousands of accounts on our HP 817.  We're going
>to assign initial passwords to these accounts.  However, since passwd
>doesn't accepts parameters or input from pipe, we've input the passwords
>manually :(
>
>Would anyone pls help ?

May be to put into the password field just a ",." string, to trigger the
password aging mechanism ? This will force the user to set the password
after the first login.

Another way would be to use a crypt(3C) to generate the encrypted password
string, e.g.

   main(argc, argv)
   char	*argv[] ;
   {
	char	crypt() ;
	puts( crypt( argv[1] ), "aa" ) ;
   }

   execute: a.out valid_password_string

and to put the resulted 13-char string into the password file with the sed(1).

	-Z.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: gordon@madmax.uwaterloo.ca (Gordon R. Strachan)
Subject: Re: 9.0 is coming, are you ready?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:32:49 GMT

In article <TT.92Jul24145516@tarzan.jyu.fi> tt@tarzan.jyu.fi (Tapani Tarvainen) writes:
>In article <jwright.711960341@cfht.hawaii.edu> jwright@cfht.hawaii.edu (Jim Wright) writes:
>
>>larryt@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com (Larry Thompson) writes:
>>>This has actually been talked about ALOT (both in this notes group and some
>>>HP internal notes groups). The series 800 machines will not support diskless
>>>in 9.0! If you need a diskless server that is running 9.0 you must use
>>>a series [347]00.
>
>>All the discussion must have been on the HP-only group.  I haven't heard
>>a thing about this before, and I read everything here
>
>Me too.  After the tidbits here I called HP and tried to pry from them
>something more; the SE I talked to said that it isn't quite fixed yet
>and he didn't know much details, but apparently the following at least
>will no longer be supported:
>
>* 68020-based s300-machines

I would really like to hear something official on this.  I can understand
HP wanting to drop items from support but, considering they have been
taking my money for a year now for software support on a 68020 machine I
think there is an assumption there that it is still being supported.  I mean,
if HP has no intention of shipping me an upgrade for my computer then why
are they taking my money?  Why do I get the feeling they will ship me the
software and expect me to realize it won't work on my computer all by
myself (and before I install it and find out the hardware!)

Gordon
Xref: sparky comp.sys.hp:8437 comp.protocols.nfs:1935
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.protocols.nfs
Subject: Re: Pls help: UID and GID consistency in NFS
Keywords: NFS
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:01:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: convex.thurlow.711907291
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Jul23.092816.8625@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk> a866700@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk (Wong Siu To) writes:

>We've configured a HP720 (HP-UX 8.07) to mount filesystem on HP 845S
>(HP-UX 8.00).  I've made the uid and gid of the root entries the same on
>both machines.  When I mount the filesystem and create a new file on
>this filesystem, I saw the owner is 65534 (nobody) but the group is
>okay (the same as those file created by root on the 845S, say admin).
>Then, on HP720 I chown the file to root, I've no access to the file
>again.

You need to look at the exportfs(8) man page on the server and figure
out how to tell the server to permit unmodified root access from certain
client machines (or all of you *really* trust your network).  Right now,
the server is trying to protect you from raids by a foreign root user,
and you need to tell it which hosts you trust.  The syntax on Suns and
our machines is "-root=host_a,host_b,host_c" in the /etc/exports entry
for the filesystem(s) in question.  You should think carefully about
how wide you want to open yourself up with this.

Rob T
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: philipp@ulysse.enst.fr (Philippe-Andre Prindeville)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Attach LZRJet to a Parallel Port
Keywords: laserjet, parallel port
Date: 26 Jul 92 20:28:41 GMT
Reply-To: philipp@res.enst.fr (Philippe-Andre Prindeville)
Organization: Telecom Paris, France

In article <1992Jul21.145706.13368@eng.ufl.edu> scot@creek.eel.ufl.edu (Scott Miller) writes:
>
>I am having problems attaching a laserjet3 to one of our
>cluster clients. The clients is a HP900/400 running HPUX 8.0 and
>the laserjet is attached to the serial port.
>
[ bunch of lp commands deleted ... ]
>
>printer lp332 disabled since Jul21
>  disabled by scheduler:can't write to /dev/null
>

First off, I've never managed to get those to work by hand -- which
is a pain, because I've written a shell script to configure just
about everything else on a machine fresh-out-of-the-box.  Sigh.  You
just have to use SAM.

On a related note, though:  has anyone managed to get a LaserJet III
(with or without PostScript) to work on a Parallel port on a 400 (or
even a 700)?

I've checked /etc/dmesg for the select code (12), and I've used SAM
to rebuild my kernel with the Parallel device driver.  Then rebooted.
It seems to me that the minor device number that SAM creates for the
device is completely random (and non-deterministic).

Again, the complaint that it can't write to /dev/null.  Also, when
I try to cat directly to the device file, I get "No such device".

Nice, eh?

Perhaps I'll just try to get an Ethernet card for my LaserJet and
speak LPD or Appletalk to it (see a later posting).

-Philip
From: franks@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com (Frank Slootweg CRC)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:54:28 GMT
Subject: Re: Again, trouble with european HP-UX software support
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, The Netherlands
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

  Responding to the posting of seymour@milton.u.washington.edu (Richard
Seymour) :

  I have no experience with DEC support and am not in HP Support
Marketing, so I don't know if I can really compare apples to apples, but
from your descriptions I conclude that we have very similar services and
do one point just different, not worse or better. Since I do not know
which other, i.e. besides the ones you mentioned, services DEC has, I
can not say that we are better.

  Here it goes:

DEC					HP
===					==
Software Dispatch			Software Status/Release Bulletin
DSIN					HP SupportLine
Self Maintenance Binary Distribution	BasicLine (every two months)
Software Performance Report		Software/Documentation Problem Report
emergency bugs, local DEC office	(Customer) Response Center
tracking system				same (TRAK) at Response Center

  With regard to HP requesting serial numbers, etc. for making a quote
for a service contract: The information is on the packing list(s). Also a
reference to the purchase order number(s) will do. We need this
information because nothing withholds a customer from "relocating"
and/or selling his/her equipment. So we might know what we sold to a
particular user in a particular company, but that is no guarantee that
(s)he still has this stuff and that (s)he does not have any additional
stuff. So because we can not know for sure, we ask. Of course the HP
person asking for this information should (be able to) explain why (s)he
needs this information.

Frank Slootweg, HP, Dutch Customer Response Center
From: rjn@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:56:14 GMT
Subject: Re: HP9000/834.. is it a 2 user only machine ?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

In comp.sys.hp, alex@opal.idbsu.edu (Alex Feldman) writes:

> I was also under the impression that it was possible to buy the 635 as
> a >2 user machine, but the license was *very* expensive.  This
> contradicts what Bob Niland said in another post, and he usually knows
> what he is talking about.

My recollection is that only the 834 had the 2-U hard limit.  I never
actually knew what a 635 was, so I can't comment on that.
From: larryt@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com (Larry Thompson)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 00:38:19 GMT
Subject: Re: BZONE crashes and logs me out
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

>I ftp'd bzonec.hp.tar.Z from the Interworks machine this past weekend.
>It compiled and install quite nicely on a 360, 400t, and 425t each
>running HP-UX 8.0.  It seems to have a bug though.  While playing it
>will suddenly lockup, the screen will change colors and then I find
>myself looking at a VUE login screen.  Has anyone else faced this
>problem?  Is there a way around it or a patch to the program/OS that I
>should look for?


Yup, that's what it does alright! This is a problem that has been reported
several times (by myself). It stems mainly from something that has to do
with the graphics card that the series 300/400 uses (catseye). So far none
of the attempted patches have fixed it. 

I'll save your mail address and if it's ever fixed I'll be sure to mail
you what the patch is. If it's any consolation, it works fine on the s700's.
Trouble is it's too fast!!!

Larry (1,229,000 top game) Thompson

I don't speak for HP, just as one Bzone player to another.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.os.vms
From: resumes@socrates.umd.edu (Resume submissions)
Subject: HP-UX/VMS Academic Sys. Admin. job in College Park, MD.
Keywords: HP-UX, VMS, Academic
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 15:12:26 GMT

There is an opening for a permanent full-time UNIX & VMS Systems
Administrator in University of Maryland University College's Academic
Computing department in College Park, MD.

The primary responsibility of this position is working with one other
person to manage a VAX 6510 running VMS and an HP 9000/835SE running
HP-UX with over 3000 student, faculty and staff users.  Duties include
minor planning, configuration, installation, troubleshooting and
documentation of hardware and software, as well as providing technical
user support.

To qualify for this position you should possess a Bachelor's degree in
a computer related field, preferrably Computer Science.  You also need
to have 2 years experience with managing both HP-UX and VMS.
Knowledge of advanced C programming, Informix, free VMS and UNIX
utilities (MX, Perl, tcsh, GNU, LaTeX, etc.) and the academic Internet
are all highly desirable.  The ability to interact with users at a
variety of competency levels is essential.  Some evening and/or
weekend work will be required.

Salary is commensurate with qualifications, most likely in the low
30's.  University College provides a pleasant work environment,
excellent benefits, and plentiful vacation time.

We regret that we are unable to pay relocation expenses.

The position is open immediately.  For full consideration you must
send *** ALL 4 OF THE FOLLOWING *** to us by August 17th 1992:

   1) letter of application
   2) resume
   3) list of three references
   4) salary history

Send them to:

   Academic Computing
   University of Maryland
   University College
   University Boulevard at Adelphi Road
   College Park, Maryland 20742-1615

Or send E-mail (ASCII or PostScript only!) to <resumes@socrates.umd.edu>.
From: puneet@franklin.ee.umr.edu (Puneet Grover)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: bif,bifchgrp,bifchown binaries wanted
Date: 27 Jul 92 12:53:34 GMT
Reply-To: puneet@ee.umr.edu (Puneet Grover)
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla
Bcc: puneet
Originator: puneet@ee.umr.edu

I require binaries for the above . I am running HP-UX 8.05 on a 9000/720.
Any pointers will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Puneet

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From: xm9@sdcc12.ucsd.edu (richard g. adair)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: How to PARTITION a HP disk?
Summary: partitions and striped disks
Keywords: partitions disks
Date: 24 Jul 92 01:30:22 GMT
Organization: Arete Associates, San Diego

In article <1992Jul23.194424.880@inesc.pt> werner@freya.inesc.pt (Werner Vogels) writes:
>an AFS fileserver. When I wanted to bring up the machine I wanted to
>partition the 1.3 disk for a root and a seperate filesystem partition.
>but nowhere I can find any reference to that this is possible under HP-UX.

Says in the man page that striped disks can have partitions.  Maybe
some nice HP dude (dudette? :-) knows if a striped disk can be
generated at system installation time?

Tony Burzio
Arete Associates
San Diego, CA
From: lecom@slhp1.epfl.ch (Claude Lecommandeur)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: What does this mean ?
Date: 29 Jul 92 07:50:12 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

lecom> cc -O -c error.c
"error.c", line 111: compiler error: register allocation error
*** Error code 1
lecom> cc +O1 -c error.c
lecom> 

  The name error.c is a pure coincidence.

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From: rdg@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Rob Gardner)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:10:14 GMT
Subject: Re: DAT drive on 835, help please
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

> We are trying to introduce a new system call to the
> HPUX kernel (version 8.07).  After compiling the kernel 
> with the new system call, we fail to boot up the system 
> (HP 9000/720 series machine) with the new kernel.  If we 
> nulify the body of the new system call (empty procedures), 
> the system boots up fine.  I appreciate any suggestions on 
> how to go about this problem.

I hope you don't mind me answering your question with approximately the
same level of detail that you have provided:

The body of your new system call has a bug.

Why don't you try "nullifying" half of the body of the call to discover
which half has the bug? After that, nullify half of what's left to 
narrow it down further. Repeat until you know what the bug is.
Simple, no?

:-) Rob