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From: aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer)
Subject: Re: Nicaragua: Myth versus Reality (I)
Organization: Evil Geniuses for a Better Tomorrow
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 12:23:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.201325.21931@vexcel.com> dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska) writes:

>If they [the Sandinistas] were so completely terrible, why did
>they get 40% of the vote?

Well Adolph Hitler got even more than 40% of the vote. Does that
make him a swell guy? Does that make him a better guy than Danny
Ortega?

   Allen
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Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: mst4298@zeus.tamu.edu (Mitchell S Todd)
Subject: Re: BUSH Administration Hushes Auto Efficiency Studies
Followup-To: alt.activism
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Applied Upyerstemmatey Corp
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 03:47:00 GMT

In article <5976@m1.cs.man.ac.uk>, bane@vtx.ma.man.ac.uk writes...
>In article <31AUG199223103328@zeus.tamu.edu>, mst4298@zeus.tamu.edu (Mitchell S Todd) writes:
>|> Harel autoposter rides again:

>|> >    A  Center for Auto Safety analysis of  EPA's 1992  data showed that
>|> >the passenger car fleet would attain  an average of 35 miles  per gallon
>|> >(mpg) if every car  did as well as  the best car  in its class, without
>|> >requiring any new technology or shifts to smaller  cars.  According to CAS,
>|> >shifting to a  "best-in-class" fleet would save 800,000  barrels of gas per
>|> >day and would reduce annual carbon dioxide emissions by 125  million tons.
>|> >The Sierra Club says that reducing auto pollution  is the clearest way
>|> >to curb threatened global warming, and that raising the CAFE standards
>|> >to 40 mpg will save the average  U.S. family $650 per year  at the gas
>|> >pump.

>|> 	The "best in class" idea is, at the least, juvenile, and is
>|> 	nothing more than some idiot playing wishful thinking with
>|> 	statistics. Of course, it's not presented as a stand-alone
>|> 	proposal. It is used in a half assed attempt to justify the
>|> 	the 40mpg CAFE standards (CAFE being a childish idea
>|> 	to begin with). 

>[more stuff irrelevant to this posting has been deleted]

>'cuse me asking but would somebody enlighten the people (well, me at least) on this
>side of the ocean what CAFE is?  Cars and Fuel Efficiency?

	It stands for Corporate Average Fuel Economy. It is the average 
	fuel mileage of the fleet of cars that any maker sells in the US. 
	In the late 1970's, Congress, for some reason or other, passed a bill
	mandating a tax on any manufacturer whose CAFE was under
	a speicified limit. The law was intended to force US automakers
	to build more fuel efficient cars. 

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Xref: sparky alt.activism:15931 talk.politics.misc:43795 soc.culture.latin-america:3311
From: tdsmith@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Timothy Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: "Lies Work"
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:19:06 GMT
Reply-To: tdsmith@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Timothy Smith)
Followup-To: alt.activism
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In talk.politics.misc, aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer) writes:

    Stupidity.

>In article <1992Aug30.233852.3614@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
> writes:
>
>>As long as the phrase contains "by the criteria the Bush people use",
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>the claim of 327 is truthful.

    For the content-disabled:  Using the *Bush campaign* method of acounting,
taxes were raised with Bush's aproval 327 times.  Fact.  Clinton used
this fact, IN THE PROPER CONTEXT, when he used the phrase "by the criteria
the Bush people use."

>No it is not. According to the Congressional Research Service the
	       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>number for Bush (using the same criteria) is 78, not the 327
>claimed by Clinton.

    For the content-disabled:  Using the *Congressional Reasearch Service* 
method of acounting, taxes were raised with Bush's aproval 78 times.
Fact.  If Clinton had claimed the 327 tax increases "from a fair
accounting method" then he would be as big a liar as Bush.  He didn't.
He isn't.

>>The Bush people aren't even pretending to be honest.
>As opposed to Clinton who lies while pretending to be honest?

    Bush IS a liar. He can't be trusted.

Tim Smith
Newsgroups: alt.activism,soc.college,talk.politics.misc
From: mphall@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Blue Rage)
Subject: Re: The Big Lie (PC)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 03:25:17 GMT

In article <adams.715381348@spssig> adams@spss.com (Steve Adams) writes:
>
>And, given the current usage, since we've seemed to have dropped 'Negro'
>and 'Caucasoid' for 'Black' and 'White', I didn't make a mistake.
>
	That's cool.  We're down to two skin colors.

	Neat.  
	
	Please don't call me a fool again.  It's not nice.  Plus doesn't
it say in the Bible (seamless piece of our Eurocanon that it is) that
you go to hell for doing so?  Certainly wasn't good Christian charity
motivating such an attack.

	Happily dismissive,
	Mike

-- 
Michael Hall    mphall@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
"If you're not revolting against work, you're working
against revolt." - Bob Black

Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.environment,alt.save.the.earth,misc.headlines,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.elections
From: lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich)
Subject: Re: BUSH: The "Energy President" (I)
Organization: LLNL
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 22:24:52 GMT

In article <adams.715381228@spssig> adams@spss.com (Steve Adams) writes:
>harelb@MATH.CORNELL.EDU (misc.activism.progressive co-moderator) writes:

>>Change in federal funding for mass transit 
>>        from 1981 to 1989:                      -50% <=========== 

>>Reduction in Department of Energy budget for 
>>        renewable energy between 1981 and 1989: 90%  <========== 

>Too bad this wasn't true acoross the board...the budge would be well in
>balance and taxes much lower.

	Presumably including your favorite government programs.

	No more road building, no more airports, no more law
enforcement, no more military, no more entitlements, ...

>>cost to build a mile of urban highway:          $100 million; 
>>cost to build a mile of light rail mass transit:$ 15 million; 
>Oh yeah?  And how much to purchase the right-of-way??  And the cost of
>running the railroad?  Etc.

	So?

	And let us not forget about the cost of buying and maintaining
a car, paying for gasoline and insurance, and medical care resulting
from accidents...

	Personally, I like reading on a train, although I'll admit
that buses aren't so hot.

	You might find Joseph Vranich's _Supertrains_ an interesting
read on this subject.

Xref: sparky alt.activism:15498 misc.headlines:5987 sci.econ:7170 talk.politics.misc:42157
Newsgroups: alt.activism,misc.headlines,sci.econ,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Derailing the Reagan Revolution, part 2: Seven more years?
From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Date: 26 Aug 92 12:49:50 EST
 <1992Aug25.003257.3727@desire.wright.edu> <1992Aug26.000113.12192@meteor.wisc.edu>
Distribution: na
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

In article <1992Aug26.000113.12192@meteor.wisc.edu>, stvjas@meteor.wisc.edu (Stephen Jascourt) writes:
> In article <1992Aug25.003257.3727@desire.wright.edu> demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes:
...
>>	And as far as "low wage" jobs go, no one is going to ensure that each
>>and every college grad is going to earn $30k their first year.  Nor should
>>they.  Always depending on constant (and high) wages and increases leads to the
>>same problem as assuming that your house will continue to appreciate and that
>>prices will rise.
>>	It would be nice if these things always happened like this, but they
>>don't.  A good economy will make sure that people spend a minimum amount of
>>time between jobs and that their next job is of similar pay.  You know, like
>>the 1980s.
> 
> The 1980's were a time of reduction in skilled workforce and expansion in the
> lower paying service sector --> new jobs were LOWER paying. Unfortunately I
> don't have stats to post, someone who does could post them.

	On the contrary.  In the August 17th issue of USA Today, (Op-Ed Pages)
it was revealed that during the 80s the number of jobs paying over $10 an hour
increased 67% while those paying less than $10 an hour decreased 25%.

	It seems to be a faulty assumption that a shift to service industries
has resulted in an increase in low paying jobs.  Service does not equate to low
paying.

Brett
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Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.politics.misc
From: kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan)
Subject: CUBA: TV and U.S. "Embargo" vs "Blockade"
Organization: The Rhode Island Internet Systems Cooperative Network
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 01:49:04 GMT

harelb@math.cornell.edu (misc.activism.progressive co-moderator) spews:

>But to overcome the economic problems and 
>the blockade, it's not an easy job. 

Kindly provide the name of the American military vessels enforcing
this "blockade". Kindly provide a military unit reference as to
what divisions are deployed.
  
...
  
>SJR:  The U.S. media calls the policy an "embargo."  Why do you and 
>the Cuban government call it a "blockade"? 
  
>Reed:  The Cubans say its a blockade in violation of international 
>law because it goes beyond limits on trade between the U.S. and 
>Cuba.

Ah, so the Cubans refine the dictionary definition of "blockade" to
suit their own needs, huh? What else to they re-define? Human rights?
Democracy?


>Last year the Treasury Department got $40 million more than 
>they asked for to enforce it.  It must be the single case where 
>somebody got more money than they asked for out of Congress.  

Really, she >must< be joking.
  

MD
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Xref: sparky alt.activism:15737 talk.politics.misc:42980
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:12:56 EDT
From: <SML108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: "Lies Work"
 <92243.163225SML108@psuvm.psu.edu>
 <1992Aug30.224700.15365@oracle.us.oracle.com>
 <92244.002950SML108@psuvm.psu.edu>
 <1992Aug31.104826.12754@anomaly.sbs.risc.net>

In article <1992Aug31.104826.12754@anomaly.sbs.risc.net>,
kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan) says:
>
><SML108@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>
>>No, not at all.  Like the Bush Bozo that you probably are, you have missed
>>the point entirely.
>
>Everyone knows that once a poster starts to resort to personal
>attacks, you've won your argument.

You're absolutely right, I was called a Clinton Weenie first...

Scott
From: dliebman@terapin.com (David Liebman)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: Health care will-o-wisps
Date: 4 Sep 92 01:46:14 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <1992Sep3.121449.3891@desire.wright.edu>, demon@desire.wright.edu
(Stupendous Man)
quotes discussion on the canadian health care system
and then proceeds to assure us that:
>
>       The whole, entire point is that the Canadian style health care would
>not work here in the US.
>
>       The US system needs reform, but the Canadian model isn't it.

if you have no additional data to present, if you have no further
analysis, if you have no particular criticism, if you have nothing to
offer us save a vapid reiteration of your initial assertions --
Newsgroups: alt.activism,soc.college,talk.politics.misc
From: adams@spss.com (Steve Adams)
Subject: Re: The Big Lie (PC)
Organization: SPSS Inc.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:02:28 GMT

mphall@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Blue Rage) writes:

>In article <adams.715369517@spssig> adams@spss.com (Steve Adams) writes:
>>
>>I guess that because Socrates, Plato, Freud, etc, etc. are white, that
>>makes them irrelevent?  Is Jesus Christ just another dead white male?
>                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>	Uh, no.  Not white.  But dead.

>	Y'oughta reconsider the little pictures they show you in your
>white oriented Sunday school books, no?

Define 'white'.  Hmm.  I could have sworn that Semites are Caucasoid.

And, given the current usage, since we've seemed to have dropped 'Negro'
and 'Caucasoid' for 'Black' and 'White', I didn't make a mistake.

Fool.  Go study a bit before you make assumptions that are dead wrong.

Speaking of which, Christ, as God, is not any color...he just happened to
be a Jewish (ie white) carpenter in His incarnation.

 -Steve
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Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.politics.misc
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: "Lies Work"
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 23:38:52 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.224700.15365@oracle.us.oracle.com> mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman) writes:
>In article <92243.163225SML108@psuvm.psu.edu> SML108@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>>Various brouhaha about who claims what deleted...
>
>>Here's how I see it...
>
>>Bush makes invalid claim about Clinton raising taxes 128 times...
>
>>Clinton responds that by same criteria, Bush did it 327 times...
>
>>Third party says real score is Clinton 59, Bush 78...
>
>>Now here's the clincher.  The way I see it, Clinton was not lying because
>>he had already stated the criteria was bogus and was merely showing that
>>if you apply the same Bu1!$h|+ to Bush, he's even worse...
>
>Excuse me, but don't you think 327 vs. 78 is significant?  I just love
>the way the Clinton weenies bend over backwards to pretend that their
>idol always tells the truth.

As long as the phrase contains "by the criteria the Bush people use",
the claim of 327 is truthful.

The Bush people aren't even pretending to be honest.
-- 
             ......................................................
             ted frank | thf2@midway.uchicago.edu | std disclaimers
             the university of chicago law skool, chicago, illinois
             consequences, shmonsequences, as long as i'm rich - dd
Xref: sparky alt.activism:15553 ca.politics:7121 talk.politics.misc:42391
From: dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,ca.politics,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Activist shot at Berkeley Chancellor's home
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:20:47 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <2A9D2B21.12700@orion.oac.uci.edu> cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
>Jeff Dauber writes
>> I tend to think that this is a far more emotional issue than
>> People's Park. This will not be activists rioting, it
>> will be the disenfranchised rioting. I am not in a
>> position to judge their rage.  
>
>But you do feel in a position to judge the rage of a group of LA cops who beat  
>up a 'motorist' ? Or the rage of a group of klansmen buring down the house of a  
>black family ?


Look up "disenfranchised"...


FWA
From: kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 15:11:17 GMT
Subject: Kosher Laws struck down
Organization: HP Western Response Center
Newsgroups: alt.activism

	The 8/17/92 Spotlight said the New Jersey Supreme Court struck down
the state's kosher food laws, which provided for tax paid kosher inspectors. 
The state also had a number of rabbis on the payroll to "consult" with the
kosher inspectors. The court ruled that the laws were a violation of the 
separation of church and state.
From: dyer@marina.asd.sgi.com (Dyer Crouch)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Pro-Choice Event
Keywords: walk, abortion, choice, event
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:13:22 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.




THE PRO-CHOICE COALITION OF SANTA CLARA COUNTY (CA.)
WILL BE PUTTING ON THE FOLLOWING:

THE 4TH ANNUAL  (drum roll.......)

**************************************************

     >>>>>>     WALK FOR CHOICE!       <<<<<<

**************************************************

EXPRESS YOUR OUTRAGE OVER THE EROSION OF OUR
REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS!!!!!!

             > 5K Walk and Rally <
    > Celebrity Speakers and Entertainment <


*WHAT IS THIS COALITION?

We are a coalition of Pro-Choice groups dedicated
to keeping abortion acessible, safe and legal.
Some of our member groups are:
The Democratic Central Committee / ACLU /
Catholics For Choice / Republicans For Choice /
Planned Parenthood / Santa Clara Womens Community
Clinic / and more. We have about twenty seven
membership orginizations.


*WHY?

We raise money each year to cover our expenses as
well as help others in the pro-choice community.
For instance, we give financal aid to member
orginizations staging protests over anti-choice
descisions. We sent $1000.00 to the Redding, (CA.)
Feminist Women's Health Center after they suffered
another fire at the hands of arsonists. We sponsor
events such as the "Religion, Abortion, Politics
Fourum" where members of various faiths are
invited to discuss thier views on abortion.


*WHEN?

****** SUNDAY, October 25 / Rain or Shine! ******


WHERE?

***** Plaza Park (In front of the Fairmont) *****
***** Market and San Fernando in downtown  *****
***** San Jose. *****


################################################

 INTERESTED IN VOLUNTEERING OR WOULD LIKE MORE
 INFORMATION???  CONTACT ME:
 E-MAIL:  dyer@asd.sgi.com

 Please indicate the following:

 A. I would like to Volunteer for helping with
    the walk.

 B. I would like a "Walk Packet" including more
    information, as well a sponsor sheet.

 C. I would like to be contacted for more
    information.

You can include name, address, phone, and
E-mail address if possible. If you do not feel
comfortable with some of the above info, please
send enough info so someone can contact you, or
send information.

   Thanks, dyer.
Xref: sparky alt.activism:15738 talk.politics.misc:42981
From: pajerek@telstar.kodak.com (Don Pajerek)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: "Lies Work"
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:50:41 GMT
Reply-To: pajerek@kadsma.kodak.com (Don Pajerek)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp. - Telstar

In article <1992Aug30.233852.3614@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:
>
>As long as the phrase contains "by the criteria the Bush people use",
>the claim of 327 is truthful.
>
>The Bush people aren't even pretending to be honest.
>-- 
>             ......................................................
>             ted frank | thf2@midway.uchicago.edu | std disclaimers


George Will had a good column on this last week. It concluded with the
memorable lines: "The Bush campaign says that America needs to strengthen
its values. The campaign itself is the best evidence of this".


Don Pajerek

Standard disclaimers apply.
Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan)
Subject: Re: Recall CA Gov. Pete Wilson!
Organization: The Rhode Island Internet Systems Cooperative Network
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:43:15 GMT

davepat@flash.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Dave Patterson) writes:

>and the simple fact that he is not capable of efficiently leading this 
>state by not passing a budget (in 52 days)

Your state legislature has no part of this then, eh?

MD
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Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.environment,alt.save.the.earth,misc.headlines,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.elections
From: hubcap@hubcap.clemson.edu (System Janitor)
Subject: Re: BUSH Administration Hushes Auto Efficiency Studies
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:45:22 GMT

>>The Sierra Club says that...


>	This has to be one of the worst researched, worst thought out,
>	and worst argued things I've seen this year.

No doubt. Actually, I quit reading it after I saw ``The Sierra Club Says...''.
Nothing turns me off to an idea (unfortunately, even if it is an 
important one) quicker than seeing it associated with a bunch of extremists.

-Mike
Xref: sparky alt.activism:15879 talk.politics.misc:43470 soc.culture.latin-america:3284
From: atfurman@cup.portal.com (A T Furman)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.politics.misc,soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: CUBA: World Assoc of Community Radios: End U.S. Blockade
Date: Wed,  2 Sep 92 22:37:06 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Sep3.024445.18752@iti.org>

>Boy this political correct stuff is hard to follow. A few weeks ago
>Harel was telling us it was an emargo. Now it's back to being a
>blockade.
>
>  Allen
>
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>| Allen W. Sherzer | "If they can put a man on the Moon, why can't they     |
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>+----------------------233 DAYS TO FIRST FLIGHT OF DCX----------------------+

I'm having an even tougher time.

When trade with Cuba is blocked, that is cause for whining.  When trade
with Mexico is allowed, that too is cause for whining.  When 2 + 2 = 5,
we will be in Harel's Utopia.


    Alan T. Furman         | VOTE LIBERTARIAN!!  Marrou/Lord in 92!!
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  atfurman@cup.portal.sig  |   (800)682-1776 for more information
Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: kenh@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Ken Hudson)
Subject: Re: Lies"Lies Work"
Organization: Yale University
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 17:02:10 EDT

>>Uh, let me get this straight.  Bush starts the whole thing with the
>>128 to 1 comparison.  Clinton responds with a 59 to 327 ratio.
>>Someone else says the right ratio is 59? to 78.
>
>>So the end result
>>is that Clinton is morally culpable, even though Bush started the
>>whole thing.
>
>If by that you mean Clinton is guilty of what he accuses Bush of,
>then yes. Why is that so hard a concept for you?
 
Why hasn't anyone mentioned "trickle-down" liabilities?  The Federal
gov't supported states with huge block grants of Federal dollars to
support state-run programs for things like Drug Rehab/Research/Law
Enforcement.  Under Reagan, taxes were slashed and block grants likewise.
Now the burden of making up the lost income falls on the States:  one
way to assure that states have to RAISE taxes to compensate for monies
previously collected at the Fed level.  Just a nice little accounting
change that makes Reagan look great and governors look like tax-raisers.
Any governor that managed to keep tax increases somewhat under control
was the real hero!!!  Not the slime that went for appearances with
no substance!!!
 
"Oh?  Pass that bill onto Joe.  I moved those expenses from my budget
into his but gave him no offsetting income."  --Tricky Dick Accounting