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From: kjb@calmasd.prime.com (Ken Brucker)
Newsgroups: alt.privacy
Subject: Re: How to bug big corporations
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:11:23 GMT
Organization: Computervision - A Division of Prime Computer

In article <1992Aug25.175238.7907@news.iastate.edu>, twap8@isuvax.iastate.edu (Mike McNarney) writes:
> Although it is not very effective, I find it is fun to sign up for
> phone cards, etc. at those campus stands using completely bogus data.
> It really doesn't make a difference, but is makes ATT, Sprint, etc. waste
> their resources when my fictional name, address, and SSN find their way 
> into their database and they try to send their crap to me. Just be sure 
> that one of your SSN fields is all zeros (123-00-4567) and your address
> does not exist in real life (ex: an address in your hometown where a street
> crosses the interstate). 
> 
> And you get free t-shirts too. 
> 
> -Mike. 
> twap8@isuvax.bitnet

I don't really understand the motivation behind this.  When corporations have
to waste their resources on something like this, we just end paying for it in
the end in higher costs for services and goods.

Instead of looking for ways to hurt each other and damage our own industries we
should be looking for ways to improve our business climate resulting in an
improved economy.  What good do your actions have?  How do they benefit our
society?  Or are you just looking for a free T-shirt, free lunch or free ride?

I'm getting so disgusted with all the negative things going on today and what's
most irritating is the way so many people seem to just put up with it.  Even to
the point of joining in, making a difficult situation that much worse.

Ken

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From: vanembur@romulus.rutgers.edu (Bill Van Emburg)
Newsgroups: alt.privacy,alt.politics.elections,talk.politics.misc,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Privacy: R.I.P., 1992
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:24:13 GMT
Followup-To: alt.privacy
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Aug25.074311.17059@nntp.hut.fi> jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:

> >The Democrats are the ones who wish to disarm the people.
> 
> This is something incomprehensible.  Many people on the net seem to
> think this way.
> 
> I suppose that when someone points a burning house to people like this
> and suggests that something should be done to stop the fire, they will
> just point to a house on the other side of the road and say "Why are
> you accusing _that_ house of burning?  Look at that _other_ house, it
> doesn't look exactly frozen either" and then they promptly start a
> fistfight on which house is more aflame while the houses burn down.

Huh?????

What does this "burning house" example mean???

Does the term, "non sequitor" mean anything to you???

..at the very least, I don't think the analogy is very good!

					-BVE
					(er..that's Bill Van Emburg)
					(vanembur@remus.rutgers.edu)
	"You do what you want, and if you didn't, you don't"
From: rogue@anableps.berkeley.edu (Brett Glass)
Newsgroups: alt.privacy
Subject: Loan App: How Much Should I Say?
Date: 24 Aug 1992 00:27:53 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: anableps.berkeley.edu
Originator: rogue@anableps.berkeley.edu

I'm about to apply for a loan -- with the usual intrusive forms that
want to know EVERYTHING about the prospective borrower. What should I
know about these forms? What personal information must I provide? What
can be legally withheld? How can I prevent it from wending its way to
large databases at the major credit bureaus and elsewhere?

<BG>

-- 
"Beware when the great God lets loose a thinker on this planet.
 Then all things are at risk. It is as when a conflagration has
 broken out in a great city, and no man knows what is safe, or
 where it will end."                   -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
Newsgroups: alt.privacy
From: wcs@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (Bill Stewart 908-949-0705 erebus.att.com!wcs)
Subject: Re: Does anyone know a way around this?
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs Random ReOrganization Generator
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 23:09:26 GMT

In article <29AUG199210313000@dstl86.gsfc.nasa.gov> olson@dstl86.gsfc.nasa.gov (Paul Olson) writes:
]I'm looking into the possibilities of federal employment (yea, suprise based on
]my last post, but maybe I can make a difference).  On the SF171, question 44,
]it asks:
]	"Are you _delinquint_ (emphasis theirs) on any Federal debt?"
[details omitted about what you've got to tell them..]

]Yes, I do owe the feds bucks, but I don't see how that is any business of the
]Office of Personnel Management, or ANYONE in the NASA personnel office, or ANY
]boss to whom I may submit the 171.  Short of stating that outright on the form,
]does anyone know a way around filling in the details?

It's not surprising, or even unreasonable, for the Feds to say
	"If you want us to pay you money, you'd better not OWE us anything,
	or at least you'd better let us deduct payments from your
	salary to pay your back debts."
In particular, they got real annoyed a few years ago about college
students defaulting on Federally-guaranteed student loans,
especially if they later went to work for the Feds.

[ Of course, if you do go to work for them, 3/4 of the money you'll be
paid with is stolen, and the other 1/4 is mostly borrowed, with a
promise to steal it from taxpayers later, but there's a foo.politics to 
talk about that subject in ..... ]
-- 

				Pray for peace;      Bill
#Bill Stewart 908-949-0705 wcs@anchor.ho.att.com AT&T Bell Labs 4M312 Holmdel NJ
# Any technology distinguishable from magic is not sufficiently advanced ...
From: vanembur@romulus.rutgers.edu (Bill Van Emburg)
Newsgroups: alt.privacy
Subject: Re: SIMPLE QUESTION
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:52:50 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <!8=n72l.feustel@netcom.com> feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel) writes:

> The IRS in 1990 came up with a regulation that permits IRS agents to
> listen to cellular telephone conversations without a warrant.
> -- 
From what I understand, monitoring of radio signals (including
cellular telephone conversations) is considered legal.  A friend of
mine told me that a local detective friend of his uses this method to
track many criminals that aren't bright enough to avoid using a
cellular phone for illegal activities.

					-BVE
					(er..that's Bill Van Emburg)
					(vanembur@remus.rutgers.edu)
	"You do what you want, and if you didn't, you don't"
From: oblivion@spica.bu.edu (Brian Oblivion)
Newsgroups: alt.privacy
Subject: databanks...
Date: 24 Aug 92 03:15:20 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Boston University Skateboarding Team



Well, Im not sure if this is exactly the same database as the one this
person is talking about but I found it interesting all the same.  It's
a bloody outrage.. the selling and buying of citizens information.
It's too late for me to get all worked up over but call these people
up and harass them.  I would like to know if it is possible for me to
call up a company that sells MY information and have them delete the
record or pay me for keeping it and releasing it to others.  Dammit,
if I can't get them to delete me, I want some Royalities!

 ;^)


Superbureau
2600 Garden Road, Suite 224 West
PO Box 2246
Monterey, CA  93942

Contact:  (408)372-6624
          (800)541-6821
          (408)372-7166 (fax)

Available material:

Tracing and Credit systems
Public, Corporate, and property records
Motor vehicle/driver records.
Business credit
Corporate Information
Criminal Activity
DBA Information
Government Records
Judgements, Lawsuits, and Litigation
NameTrace on Businesses and Consumers
Consumer Profiling
Social Security Discovery and Trace
Telephone Trace (Skip-tracing)


I pitty all those with Credit Cards.  


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From: olga@csiatl.Gwinnett.COM (olga from the volga)
Newsgroups: alt.privacy
Subject: Private data nont so private
Date: 23 Aug 92 17:44:31 GMT

In a Previous article dh4j+@andrew.cmu.edu (David O Hunt) writes: 

>Personally, I'm _OUTRAGED_ that this much information is so easily
>available about me.  While I have no problems with a potential employer
>calling up past employers and my schol to verify my data, to be able to
>just call up some database and get the info is, IMHO, obscene.
>Note:  This information came (nearly verbatim) from a sales pamphlet
>on the XXXX Network.

>David

If you are so outraged, please publish the NAME of the network so 
that we can lobby and write the appropriate people to get  some 
restrictions on them, just like we can do with the credit 
reporting agencies!

olga@csiatl.gwinnett
YOW!
From: vanembur@romulus.rutgers.edu (Bill Van Emburg)
Newsgroups: alt.privacy
Subject: Re: SCAN and your credit
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:09:12 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Aug23.210953.15852@colorado.edu> atkeson@spot.Colorado.EDU (L. Atkeson) writes:

> >and license number when your old one expires.  He then informed me
> >I'd have to contact Marshall's in MA about this problem.  SCAN is
> not resonsible for the information they receive or the information they
> give out to stores.

I would echo and apply a comment that someone else made on this --
don't believe everything that SCAN tells you!  I can't see how SCAN
could NOT be responsible for the information they provide to others.
Granted, you may not be able to sue them, but that doesn't mean that
they don't have an obligation to correct the error.  After all, even a
credit reporting bureau is obligated to correct errors (sometime in
the next century, at least...  ;-).

The truly disturbing thing is that the people at SCAN didn't find out
the recycling time on DL#'s in that state and make sure to delete the
records after that period of time.  This method wouldn't ensure that
problems such as you describe wouldn't happen, but at least the
problem would correct itself within a few years....

					-BVE
					(er..that's Bill Van Emburg)
					(vanembur@remus.rutgers.edu)
	"You do what you want, and if you didn't, you don't"
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: lindaj@solbourne.com (Linda Weygant)
Subject: Steve Miller's "joker"
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc., Longmont, CO
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:45:32 GMT

When amck@mcc.com asked about the following lyrics in Steve Miller's Joker:

	Some people call me Maurice
	'Cos I speak with the pompetus of love.


Didn't Dave Barry recently devote an entire article to this question about two
weeks ago??

Linda
From: RayTrace@cup.portal.com (Ray William Kulberda)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: ASIA live in michigan 9/4/92
Date: Wed,  2 Sep 92 18:50:01 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

ASIA?!?!?!  Will they be anywhere else?  i.e. New Jersey?  Well, for a $1
I would have to say Wetton is PROBAABLY not with them, Palmer definatly not,
Howe I don't think so, and Downes? maybe, but probably not.  For a $1?  Don't
expect much.  
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc
From: genghis@uiuc.edu (Tim Elliott)
Subject: U2 Champaign IL 9/18 Cancelled.
Originator: tim@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: genghis@uiuc.edu (Tim Elliott)
Organization: UIUC Computing Services Office
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 05:50:03 GMT

U2 cancelled their 9/18 show in Memorial stadium due to lack of interest.
Instead, they have added a third show in Chicago on the 18th at the World Music
Theatre.  Tickets for the Champaign show get refunded beginning 10AM CDT 
Thursday 9/3.  Tickets for the third Chicago show go on sale beginning 10AM CDT
Tuesday 9/8.  For more information, call (217) 244-WPGU.
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From: rcheung@ucs.adelaide.edu.au (Richard Cheung)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: RELEASE: Recent and Upcoming Album Releases: 92-32
Date: 26 Aug 92 03:57:27 GMT
Followup-To: alt.rock-n-roll
Organization: Information Technology Division, The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA

In article <ei2VPB3w165w@unkaphaed.UUCP> phaedrus@unkaphaed.UUCP (James Hartman, Sysop) writes:
>dld30@QUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Dave Dooley) writes:
>
>> 20 Oct *  Thomas Dolby                    Astronauts & Heretics
>

This album has been out in Aust for a week!.. or at least I have seen 
about 5 cd copies for sale in a cd store here.

Rich

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: lsalvati@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Louis M Salvati)
Subject: Kansas Fan Needs HELP
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 01:50:22 GMT

I'm a huge Kansas fan and recently I tried to order three of their discs which are mentioned in the liner notes of the "Best of" disc.
-- Audio-Visions  1979
-- Vinyl Confessions 1982
-- Drastic Measures 1983
Only to be told that they are apparently out of print.
Please if anyone has information on how I can get these recordings either on disc or tape or if someone has them and are willing to make copies for me, the help would be greatly appreciated. I also have both "Power (1986) and "In the Spirit of Things" on tape and I love to get them on disc but they too are out of print so any help in this area would also be appreciated.

*NOTE* 
     The new Kansas "Live at the Whiskey" is now available through a T.V. offer along with a video of the same title and a poster all for $24.95 The number to call is 
               1-800-637-6300

 THANKS
From: dutkowsk5111@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: US Doors Fan Club!
Date: 30 Aug 92 14:05:16 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

To all you Doors fans out there.  There will be a US Doors fan club 
that will be starting in or around January of next year.  It will include
a fanzine every few months. (I think).  Stay tuned for more details.
-Dave
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: smithjj@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SMITH JEFFREY JAMES)
Subject: New Sammy Hagar Album
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:48:16 GMT

In case some people forgot,  when Sammy released his last album,
the one with "Give to Live", etc., it was released without a title.
There was an actual contest where people could send in their ideas
for an album title. Whomever won would have their idea used and their
name put in the album credits. All this would be done on future 
printings of the album. I think "I never said goodbye" is clever.
It WAS released after VH's OU812. Just thought I'd clear all that up.

-Jeff
smithjj@ucsu.colorado.edu

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: klg40528@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kevin L. Goodwin)
Subject: New Pearl Jam tracks
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:46:50 GMT

  I just bought an import single of "Jeremy" today, and on it were two
  new tracks.  One was a remake of Temple of the Dog's "Times of Trouble"
  with new lyrics by Eddie.  The other was a new one called "Yellow Ledbetter"

  Both were really cool, and I recommend it, even though it cost me $9.

	   

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: eehrhard@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Elizabeth J Ehrhardt)
Subject: Lyrics to "janies' got a gun" by Areasmith
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:14:23 GMT

Sorry about the miss spelled words, for some reason my backspace key is not 
working.  Anyway, my question of the hour is:

In the song "Janie's Got a Gun" by Areosmith, what exactly did her daddy do?

the words are something like: "what did her daddy do, what did he put her 
through?  He tried to something something baby, the man has got to be insane"

what are the words to replace something something?  Could someone please help?
I'm going crazy.  Okay, maybe its not that bad.  Anyway, if anyone knows, I'd 
appreciate an answer.

Libby
eehrhard@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
From: landrews@outb.wimsey.bc.ca (Luke Andrews)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Lyrics to "It takes every kind of people"
Date: 29 Aug 92 15:21:07 PDT
Organization: Wizard Online

>There's a song called "It takes every kind of people" (at least I think
>that's the name) which I'm told is by Robert Palmer. Can anyone confirm
>this name, the artist, and perhaps send me the lyrics?
>

Yes, its called Every Kinda People, and its by Robert Palmer off his "Double Fun" album.

Its also on two other albums, Addictions volume 1 and volume 2 (volume 2 has a remix of the song).

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: rocky@NeoSoft.com (Joe Mullally)
Subject: Re: Advice needed: How to get revenge on loud neighbours
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 20:30:00 GMT

In article <Btp45F.oA@wpi.WPI.EDU> meep@parrot.WPI.EDU (A Son of the Silent Age) writes:
>>[tales of obnoxious neighbors deleted]
>
>umm . . . I generally like Husker Du's "New Day Rising." Failing that, it's
>time for the cruel and unusual punishment:
>
>	Metal Machine Music.
>
>Say no more.

	I came name that tune in three-tenths of a note!
 



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From: mattw@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Matthew Watson)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Pearls And Swine
Date: 30 Aug 92 22:54:43 GMT
Organization: Customised Software Solutions Centres, AOTC

There's a band here in Australia called Pearls and Swine, who played a few
shows in LA just after the riots, who have just put out their debut album.
This is excellent Heavy Rock and Roll, metal influenced rather than
"classic" Rock, with an evil sense of humour:

from "Panel van from Hell"
"Don't bother knockin', if this vans Rockin'"

from "Accidents Will Appen"
"Officer I'm innnocent, I didn't mean it Man, I Promise! He just ran right
into my knife, four times, backwards!"

Here in Aus it's selling for $14.95 (as opposed to any other first release
at $27.95) and if you see it, you should buy it!

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: andy@b30.ingr.com (Andrew Brezinski)
Subject: Re: SPRINGSTEEN - Is he going downhill or what?
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:48:20 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.090000.19881@walter.cray.com> huot@cray.com (Tom Huot) writes:
>I assume this will probably get me cooked, but as a former avid
>Springsteen fan, I was wondering if I could solicit some other 
>opinions here.
>
>I have been following "The Boss" since his first album. It took
>some time for me to develop a taste for the music, but when I 
>first saw him live in 1975, that was it. I was sold. He had to
>be about the best live performer I had ever seen. I have since
>bought every one of his albums, wore them out, and then got the
>CD's of my favorites.
>
>Since that time, however, I think he had mostly great albums, Born
>in the USA probably being my least favorite until these latest two.
>I think that was only because it was so overplayed. These latest 2
>albums, though, I have not been able to enjoy like most of his
>previous work. Is it just me or are there other people out there
>who think his well is running dry? (57 channels especially!)
>
>Well, Im now donning my asbestos suit.
>
>-- 
>_____________________________________________________________________________
>Tom Huot        			       
>huot@cray.com 
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It's funny, when I first heard the albums, I was a little hesitant to say
they were good.  But I didn't give up on them right away.  I listened to
them a few more times and really started to get into them alot.  Then I
talked to my brother who said he didn't really like them.  I told him
that I liked them a lot more than Tunnel of Love.  He went back and listened
to them again and later told me that they were great.  I think they have
to grow on you a bit, some more than others.  I'd suggest listening to
them again.

I just hope that I get a chance to see him on this tour.

Andy Brezinski
Intergraph Corporation
Huntsville, AL 35894-0001

From: Trog.Martian@p4.f851.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Trog Martian)
Sender: NewsMeisterII@mcws.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: pink floyd
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:48:34 -0800

 MJSC>  In Australia I have only seen pink floyds (brilliant!) film 
 MJSC>   LIVE AT POMPEII
 MJSC> available on particuarly LO-FI video format.(Old rental tape) 

 MJSC> Is this film available with a sound track of decent 
 MJSC> (sterio & hifi) quality?
 MJSC> If it is, is it available in Australia on PAL ?

An EXCELLENT choice!  I discovered this once some years ago and made 
a cassette tape of the soundtrack, which I continuously listened to 
until it died.  Haven't seen a copy of the video since.

If you find a place that has good ones, PLEASE drop me a note.

Can you imagine having been there when they recorded that?  Setting 
up in the middle of an ancient Pompeiian amphitheatre... the acoustics 
must have been incredible!

=8->

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen)
Subject: U2 NEW DATE!!!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 13:56:27 GMT

A few days ago someone posted the U2 schedule and left out the newest 
date - Sept. 18 at Memorial Stadium, Champaign, Illinois.  Memorial
Stadium holds 65,000 people and I heard today that good seats are still 
available.  Champaign is also in easy driving distance of St. Louis,
Chicago and Indianapolis.  Tickets are $30 each and available through
any Ticketmaster or from the Assembly Hall box office at (217) 333
5000.
							Peder