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From: John Lacey <johnl@spinner.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Printing labels from an address stack
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 0:48:39 EST
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

My sister has a rather large address stack, and she would like to be
able to print address labels.

Any ideas what she needs in terms of scripts, software, printer?

She will be buying a printer within the month, probably a Stylewriter
or a DeskWriter.  Is this possible or impossible with either or both
of those?

Should she abandon HyperCard and buy one of the myriad of address and
label utilities?

-- 
John Lacey        ``What's wrong with my style is not a lack of expressiveness
                    or lucidity, but vulgarity.''                --G. H. Hardy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: cmi@oracle.uucp (Eileen Riley)
Subject: Re: OracleCard vs HyperCard XCMDs?
Keywords: Oracle Card XCMD
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:44:21 GMT
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              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

OracleCard is based on Spinnaker software's PLUS engine. Yes, you can use most HyperCard XCMDS.

In response to the second question, (QuickKeys triggering) I would suggest using the SendAEvent XCMD to send an AppleEvent for Q-Keys to respond to.

Jon Barron
From: ffdkl@acad3.alaska.edu (Dan LaSota)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: FUNCTION problem
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:05:41 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska Computer Network
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1



In article <1992Jul29.220023.13149@newshost.lanl.gov> David Simmons,
davids@gardener.lanl.gov writes:

>function decide (day)
>  if trunc((day/7)*7) = day then
>     put trunc(day/7) into day
>  else
>     put trunc((day/7) + 1) into day
>  end if
>  return day
>end decide

take the parenthesis away from the 'day' parameter
word 3 of line 1 of your function handler.

I think HyperCard is calling decide again to interpret the decide
function as soon as it tries to interpret the decide function.
A good way to recurse too much!

Something like this

function decide day
  if trunc((day/7)*7) = day then
     put trunc(day/7) into day
  else
     put trunc((day/7) + 1) into day
  end if
  return day
end decide

But this is shorter (gets rid of a line)

function decide day
  if trunc((day/7)*7) = day then
     return trunc(day/7)
  else
     return trunc((day/7) + 1)
  end if
end decide

this is more to the point

function decide day
  if trunc(day) = day then
     return trunc(day/7)
  else
     return trunc((day/7) + 1)
  end if
end decide

this is perhaps better

function decide day
   add 1 to day
   return day div 7
end decide

Later,
Dan
From: bhostetl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brian Hostetler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: something to make a color PICT with?
Date: 31 Jul 92 03:23:04 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Organization: Indiana University


	I need to make a color PICT for my palette.  What program
should I use (I've never come across that makes PICT's --just opens
them).  Also, how would I get said PICT to become the palette?  Is
there some weird way of turning the PICT into a resource and
installing it using resource mover???


-- 
-brian
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From:  (Chris Hiester)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Scrolling fields question
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:14:55 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I'm trying to find out what action occurs in a scrolling field during the 
actual action of scrolling.  It seems to me that mouseUp and mouseDown don't
occur and the scroll bar isn't really in the field.  I'm trying to make buttons
move in relation to the scroll and I'm having problems with the handler I 
wrote to do it during idle.

Also, I'd like to know where I can find the Rinaldi stack or XCMD to make
hierarchical menus.

Any replies are greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Chris Hiester
From: clas005@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Reminder--> HC/HT help, XCMD guide
Date: 28 Jul 92 11:57:57 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

This is to remind you:
The following is available at sumex-aim.stanford.edu:

* guide-to-xcmds.hqx

 Lists many existing public downloadable xcmds.

The following are available at mac.archive.umich.edu:

* hypercard-help-da.hqx

 Reveals / reminds you of the many secret shortcuts in HC.

* hypertalk-help-da.hqx

 Complete conspectus of scripting commands, messages, properties, 
functions, etc., including new 2.1 features.

A number of the questions asked recently in this forum would have 
been answered by consulting these items.

The items at mac.archive.umich.edu are under 
/mac/system.extensions/da; please note that as I write this 
mac.archive.umich.edu is down, and you have to get in via 
shavenyak.css.itd.umich.edu. This works okay but you may have 
trouble with the DIR command; try LS instead.
-- matt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: billb@is.rice.edu (William Stenson Blackwell)
Subject: Need "Quit" script
Organization: Rice University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:44:21 GMT

I need a HyperTalk script that "Quits" without using the file menu.
I know this is a bonehead question, but I don't have the manual, and
I need it sometime this week.  This is what I've already tried:
 
 
 on mouseUp
   do menu "Quit HyperCard"
 end mouseUp
 
and various permutations along that theme.  Help is greatly appreciated!!!
 
Thanks in advance....
 
 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: bj356@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rick E. Dieringer)
Subject: Re: Multiple-Scrolling Fields
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 17:28:27 GMT


The best solution I've found to linking multiple scrolling fields in the Multiscroll
XCMD. There are some other approaches that require placing buttons over the scroll bar
and having them set the scroll of the linked fields to the mouse vloc in the scroll
bar. It works, but not as smoothly as the XCMD, IMHO.
-- 
Rick Dieringer
usr0563a@tso.uc.edu
From: lev@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian S. Lev)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Subscripts and Superscripts
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:42:00 GMT
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md. USA
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <1992Jul27.200033.9008@aero.org>, kern@arecibo.aero.org (J.C. Kern) writes...
>In article <1992Jul22.152355.25041@access.usask.ca>, greer@skorpio.usask.ca (Jim Greer) writes:
>> 
>> This may be a FAQ but. . .
>> How do you make subscript or superscript characters in a hypercard field?
>> There seems to be no subscript or superscript style.  Is there a font?
>> Please email replies to 
>> greer@cs.usask.ca 
> 
>The current version of Hypercard does not support super/subscripting.  The 
>only work-around solution that we have found is to use a font that provides
>this utility.  We are currently using SuperScientific and SubScientific.
>It's a hassle, but it works.

I've also had some success with a font called "Hi-Low" (although the "high"
is the majority and there are very few subscript chars)... 
-- Brian
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.hypercard:2838 comp.sys.mac.misc:13546 comp.sys.mac.apps:12217
From: stever@netcom.com (Steve Riggins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: HyperCard 2.1 Quicktime Help needed.
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:37:51 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <92203.071208IO92668@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> <IO92668@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
>I am trying to put a Quicktime movie into my stack.  But I don't want
>the movie controlers to show at the bottom of the movie window.
>
>I want the movie to come up in a plain "rect" picture window.  No
>scroll bars, close window boxes or quicktime controllers.  I want
>to show the movie but not allow the stack user to move or manipulate
>the window it is in.
>
>thanks for the help if you can offer any,
>Mark Leaman
>io92668@maine.maine.edu
>
>Marc,
   If you are using the claris XCMD, then when issuing the movie call,
use "borderless" or "plain" for the windowType.  Also, bring the movie up
invisible.  Then you can set the showController to false, and have a totally
clean movie.  We do this in our stuff all the time.



-- 
Steve Riggins                 stever@netcom.com
From: priggew@indiana.edu (Bill Prigge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Outliner in Hypercard
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:28:40 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

Has anyone out there in net-land seen or heard of an outliner stack?  No, 
MS-Word, More, etc... are not options.  Post or send mail, I'll post a 
summary.  Thanks.

Bill
From: davids@gardener.lanl.gov (David Simmons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: FUNCTION problem
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:00:23 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Originator: davids@feynman.lanl.gov


Hi!

I may just be totally dense when it coems to functions, but I can't
seem to make this one work (surprise! ;-)).

This is a function to return the number of the week, given a date, as
in "Week 29" for  July 27th (or whatever...I can't tell you what week
July 27th is in because the friggin' function won't work!)

This script used to give accurate week numbers when it *wasn't* a 
function, just a simple script acting on global variables.  Since
I'm trying to eliminate as many globals as possible, I thought it
might be nice to re-write it as a function--or simply transfer it to
a function.  The lines for calculation are *exactly* the same as they 
were in the original script.

It is called thusly:

on foo
  <commands>
  put decide (day) into weekNo
  <more commands>
end foo

the function is ....

function decide (day)
  if trunc((day/7)*7) = day then
     put trunc(day/7) into day
  else
     put trunc((day/7) + 1) into day
  end if
  return day
end decide

No matter what I do, I get the message "Too much recursion".  I have
even commented out *everything* and inserted a line "put day + 1 into day"
as the ONLY executable line, and I still get "too much recursion".

Anyone who can help bail me out of another one of my bone-headed messes
will be greatly appreciated.  I read, and re-read the section on user-defined
functions in Goodman's book, but it doesn't help.
-- 

David G. Simmons		"There's no problem so awful that you can't
davids@lanl.gov			 add some guilt to it and make it even worse!"
						-Calvin
If I said it, LANL didn't...

-- 

David G. Simmons		"There's no problem so awful that you can't
davids@lanl.gov			 add some guilt to it and make it even worse!"
						-Calvin
From: lev@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian S. Lev)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: HyperCard Memory Squashing
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:48:00 GMT
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md. USA
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <01050023.98hvoa@sable.cars.com>, shawn@cars.com writes...
>I've been having a curious problem and thought someone here might have
>some insight as to it's cause and solution.
> 
>I'm working on an SE/30 running System 7.0.1 with Tune-up 1.1.1 and
>many extensions, cdevs and assorted fun play things. After starting
>up HyperCard, and bringing up the 'About This Macitosh...' dialog from
                                               ^^^^^^^^
Obviously, the problem is that missing "n" in the menu choice... :-) :-)

Seriously, I'm working on an SE/30 at home with HC 2.1, and in the past
month it's begun _crashing_ (yugh) any time I choose "Open Stack" more
than 4-5 times in as many minutes... I also have a bunch of INITS and
other goodies in place (including both After Dark and At Your Service,
which are fun but memory hogs).

Any info would be appreciated, netters!

-- Brian
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: WAIT Command
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:09:57 GMT
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT

In article <BrutHG.1M3@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
bhostetl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brian Hostetler) writes:
 
>
>        Is there anything faster than 1 TICK when using WAIT?  I tried
>WAIT .5 TICK, but of course it wanted an integer.
 
No, but if you just want to create a wait state, try executing a function
or something. You, know: do some busy-work.
 
You can roughly calculate the time spent by running this test:
get the ticks,
repeat the busy-work several times,
get the ticks - it,
divide it by the number of repeats
 
--Eric
From: manes@bass.bu.edu (Michelle Manes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Need "Quit" script
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:26:25 GMT
Reply-To: manes@bass.bu.edu (Michelle Manes)
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Organization: Boston University

In article <1992Jul21.214421.23197@rice.edu> billb@is.rice.edu (William Stenson Blackwell) writes:
>I need a HyperTalk script that "Quits" without using the file menu.
>I know this is a bonehead question, but I don't have the manual, and
>I need it sometime this week.  This is what I've already tried:
> 
> 
> on mouseUp
>   do menu "Quit HyperCard"
> end mouseUp
> 
>and various permutations along that theme.  Help is greatly appreciated!!!
> 


I use this exact script for a "quit" button on one
of my stacks.  Works beautifully.  The only problem
I can see is that "do menu" should be "domenu".
If that wasn't a typo, that's your problem.  If it was,
it *should* work.  (Helpful, huh?)

michelle

--
Michelle Manes		|	"What should I be when I grow up?"
manes@bass.bu.edu	|	"Honest."
			|	-Robert M. Pirsig

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: sauer@bluemoon.rn.com (John Tipshus)
Subject: HYPERCARD BINARIES...WHERE??
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 13:04:25 EDT

Is there a HyperCard binaries newsgroup?  I thought this group also had
them BinHex'd.
 
Thank you.
 
     John


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:07:55 -0400 
From: "Charles A. Hill" <ch2i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: identifying black pixels?

Hi:

I want users to be able to click on a part of a line drawing, and have
that part of the drawing "flash" by having it filled in and emptied
repeatedly several times.  For instance, in a drawing of a cell, the
user could click inside the nucleus, and the nucleus would "flash" 3
times.

I have a script that goes something like this:

on mouseup
   get the mouseloc
   put it into clickPoint
   choose bucket tool
   repeat 3
      click at clickPoint
      wait 5
      domenu undo
      wait 5
   end repeat
   choose browse tool
end mouseup

The trouble is, sometimes the user clicks on a black pixel (there's lots
of detail and "texture" in the drawings).  When this happens, the bucket
shows up and goes away, but nothing gets filled in.

Is there a way to tell hypercard, "If the pixel at clickPoint is black,
move over one pixel?"

I've solved the problem by specifying x and y coordinates in the code,
but the code is way too long, and every time I move the drawing over a
quarter inch, I have to recode the whole card.

*Of course, if HC had irregular shaped buttons, this wouldn't be a
problem.  (Hint for the next update.):-)

Charlie Hill
ch2i@andrew.cmu.edu
From: neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: HELP !!: How do you Print Quicktime Movies ??????
Date: 26 Jul 92 19:26:16 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland


I need some help here.

I have a Hypercard application running some Quicktime movies. I wish to
pause the movie at a certain point and print the card to the Laserwriter.

All attempt so far have failed misirably. Hypercard either ignores the movie
(in a Window) or deletes it before printing (Direct).

What do I do ??

Neil


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From: B.Soufi@lut.ac.uk (Bassel Soufi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: HyperCard, HyperX and Plus
Keywords: HyperText, Expert System, Portability
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:25:15 GMT
Organization: Loughborough University, UK


HyperX
Has anyone used HyperX (an expert system written in HyperTalk), if so what did
you think of it?
Do applications, developed using HyperX, need HyperX to run, or do they only
need HyperCard.
What is the most recent version of HyperX; does it work with HyperCard V2.1 and
System 7?
Is there a U.K. supplier of HyperX.

Plus
Have you used this product? if so what did you think of it?
Plus is supposed to provide Mac/PC compatibility and is HyperCard compatible
(should read HyperCard stacks).  Has anyone tried this and have there been
any problems.
What is the most recent version of Plus. Is it compatible with HyperCard V2.1
and System 7.

I am considering developing a system using HyperCard and HyperX. Is there a
port route to the PC for the resulting application.  Does Plus provide such
a route (the Mac version of Plus should read HyperCard stacks and when
converted to Plus and ported to the PC, can they run under the PC version of
Plus).  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: s3583045@titan.ucc.umass.edu (John Greene)
Subject: Field existance query?
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:41:39 GMT

Is there any easy way to tell if a field exists without a dialog coming up?
I guess I want a command like this:

  if foo is a bg field then
    blah blah blah
  else
    put "Unknown field " & foo & "... Skipping to next record" into msg
  end if

Thanks a bunch, gang!

-jg


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: awhite@hoosac.corp.sgi.com (Alan White)
Subject: Export text from hypercard to Wingz
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:32:17 GMT

Some of my field users are using hypercard (or Filemaker Pro) Prospect
Database tools. Since they will soon be using Indigos, they would like a
way to export their data from hypercard (Filemaker Pro) to Wingz in a
Tab-delimited format. Does anyone have any ideas or know of an already
existing script??
-azw


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: sfieldho@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: supercard books
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 05:45:21 GMT

I am looking for some good books on the Macintosh language Supercard.
I would like the title of the book and where I can get it, also some kind of 
price.
	Thankyou.


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 UUCP  : uunet!munnari.oz!cc.curtin.edu.au!FIELDHOUSE
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: bobsoron@world.std.com (Bob Soron)
Subject: Re: XCMD for finding System Version?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Summary: Built into HC 2.1
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 23:49:43 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.180335.17740@utkux1.utk.edu> danny@utkux1.utk.edu
(Danny W. McCampbell) writes:
>Is there an external command or function that someone has
>written to find out the System Version a user is running 
>on his/her mac?
>
>Danny McCampbell
>danny@utkux1.utk.edu

As this snippet from the new features text for HC 2.1 shows, it's
built into HyperTalk. If you're using a version of HC earlier than
2.1, it's worth upgrading if you can, but otherwise, one of the
Rinaldi XFCNs common all over the net can do this.

 > Determining which version of System Software is running
 > 
 >     A new function has been added to HyperTalk, "the systemVersion".  It
 > returns the version of system software is running in a decimal string.
 > For example, it will return 6.07 instead of 6.0.7, to allow scripters to
 > use it with HyperTalk's arithmetic operators.

Bob Soron
bobsoron@world.std.com
"With Velcro, gravity is obsolete" -- Mister Boffo
From: hirota@sluggo.sdsc.edu (Bryan Hirota)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Mucho Grande Help Required
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:39:59 GMT
Organization: San Diego Supercomputer Center
NNTP-Posting-Host: sluggo.sdsc.edu

Problem:

I am using supercard 1.6

I am on card X.  I am trying to put the text of card field 1 on card Y
into card field 1 of card X.  I cannot retain the formatting from
card Y, if the formatting on card Y contains multiple textstyles.

I try to do the following...

put card field 1 of card Y into card field 1 of card X
get the textstyle of card field 1 of card Y
put it into card field 1 of this card

This does not work when the field has multiple styles. I get
the following error message.  "I don't know about this style" or
something like that.

Anyone else ever have this problem?
Anyone else have a solution?

help!

===========================================================================
Bryan Hirota
hirota@sdsc.edu
bhirota@ucsd.edu
===========================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: davids@gardener.lanl.gov (David Simmons)
Subject: Re: WAIT Command
Originator: davids@feynman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:38:01 GMT


In article <BrutHG.1M3@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, bhostetl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brian Hostetler) writes:
|> 	Is there anything faster than 1 TICK when using WAIT?  I tried
|> WAIT .5 TICK, but of course it wanted an integer.
|> 
|> 

You want to wait ~1/120th of a second?  Remember that a tick is an
internal clock cycle, not a second.  Depending on what else is
running, and what type of mac you're running on, a tick is ~1/60th
of a second (your mileage may vary).
-- 

David G. Simmons		"There's no problem so awful that you can't
davids@lanl.gov			 add some guilt to it and make it even worse!"
						-Calvin
If I said it, LANL didn't...

-- 

David G. Simmons		"There's no problem so awful that you can't
davids@lanl.gov			 add some guilt to it and make it even worse!"
						-Calvin