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From: mef@remus.rutgers.edu (Marc E. Fiuczynski)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: xdbx for sequent symmetry
Date: 15 Apr 92 08:05:57 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Date: 15 Apr 92 05:54:38 GMT
Message-Id: <Apr.15.01.54.37.1992.24532@remus.rutgers.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.sequent


Hi, simply question.  Has anyone been able to get xdbx compiled on a
sequent symmetry.  I got it compiled, but it doesn't seem to work
properly with the dbx'er that's available on the sequent.  

One of the problems was that the sequent doesn't support the termio
structure, without it I can't turn of the mapping of NL to CR-NL on
output (i.e. Termio.c_oflag &= ~ONLCR; ioctl(foo, TCSETA, &Termio)).
BTW, this is happening in calldbx.c in calldbx(...,...).

If anyone has been able to get around this and has xdbx working on 
the sequent please let me know.

Thanks,

Marc
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From: tony@jeeves.engr.mun.ca (Anthony H Galway)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: View CCT format files on X-Displays
Date: 17 Apr 92 00:17:40 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: C-CAE, Memorial University of Newfoundland

Date: 16 Apr 92 17:59:50 GMT
Message-Id: <tony.703447190@femto.engr.mun.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics,comp.windows.x


	We are currently moving to X-windows from VMS, and as such have left
support for CCT format files created by CCRS Airborne SAR back on the GPX
workstations. What we would like is an image viewer for X Windows.

	I am attempting to do this, but this is my first attempt at X window
programming (other than Hello World(TM) :) ) and the program therefore is
coming along very slowly.

	I know little about where this format is used, other than the Canada
Centre for Remote Sensing, so I don't really know where to look. Any help,
on this will be very much appreciated.

Thanks!
-Tony

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From: kaleb@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov (Kaleb Keithley)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: HP Widget set (was Re: Motif vs Open-look vs X)
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:25:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: sm.1992Apr10.002554.23516
Distribution: fj
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA

Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 16:22:02 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr9.162202.448@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <23222@life.ai.mit.edu> gillett@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Walter E. Gillett) writes:
>Why doesn't anybody ever mention the HP Widgets (libXw.a) as an alternative to
>Athena or Motif/OpenLook?  Aren't they pretty much Athena functionality with
>a Motif look?  And they're free, right?

Free?  No.  The so called HP 2D widget set (which is available on export)
was R3 based, as far as I know, no one has made any attempt to port it to 
R4 or R5.  

The 3D HP widget set is HP proprietary, and is definitely not free.  

Another project here had HP come in an build an HP app which used the 
HP widget set on some DecStations.  They brought the source, built the
library and application, then deleted the source.  Later, after they'd
ported the app to Motif, they came back and built it again....

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From: coleman@zoo.toronto.edu (Ron Coleman)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: SoftPC on Decstation hardware
Date: 15 Apr 92 00:45:56 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology

Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 21:08:39 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr14.210839.23699@zoo.toronto.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Has anyone had any experience with SoftPC on Decstation hardware?  We
have version 2.11 and have not been overly impressed with its speed,
nor the fact that it can only do EGA and HERC emulation.  I suspect
there is a newer version than 2.11.  Does anyone have it?  Is it
better than 2.11 in any substantial way?  (We have a terrible time
trying to get ANY information at all out of our local DEC 
representative and INSIGNIA -- makers of SoftPC -- say they can't
talk to us since they have an arrangement that DEC handles the
product).  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
-- Ron Coleman
From: strat@cutlass.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Davis)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X Programming Tutorial?
Date: 16 Apr 92 08:44:36 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Kansas State University

Date: 16 Apr 1992 02:00:36 -0500
Message-Id: <sj8mkINNefa@cutlass.ksu.ksu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I am looking for a tutorial in programming X in C.  An on line
.txt, .ps, or .tex document would be perfect!  Thanks in advance.

(Before you mail me wanting this information, I'll post a summary!)

Stratocaster

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From: rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Augmenting the known widget set of UIL
Date: 14 Apr 92 05:12:43 GMT
Distribution: fj
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Date: 13 Apr 1992 23:36:50 GMT
Message-Id: <kuk6oiINNkps@news.bbn.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <13APR199215481717@addvax.llnl.gov>, kettering@addvax.llnl.gov (Brett 'Volleyball Is My Game' Kettering) writes:
 
|> I have the version of UIL delivered with my Motif license.  It handles the
|> motif widget set (well it doesn't have dialog shells) well enough, but I
|> want to be able to add widgets to it.  I know that there is a file somewhere
|> that determines the parse rules for the UIL, but I don't remember where it
|> is and can't find any info in FAQ's or the V1.1 book for Motif.
|> 
|> Has anyone ever added widgets to the UIL?  Can you point me to some`
|> instructions on how to do it?

If you need to do this, this is an excellent reason to stop using 
UIL and use Wcl (Widget Creation Language) instead.   Adding new
widgets to Wcl is trivial.

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From: fettig@sol.cs.uni-sb.de (Thomas Fettig)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: MacX cannot keep up with incoming traffic?
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:23:06 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: 13 Apr 92 12:33:39 GMT
Message-Id: <17942@sbsvax.cs.uni-sb.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.windows.x,comp.unix.aix,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.windows.x.motif


   Hello John!

cary@jove.Colorado.EDU (John R. Cary) writes:
: I have developed a Motif application for an RS6000/320H running AIX3.1.6 that
: periodically plots one point inside a Scrolled Window widget.  The calculation
: producing this one point can be very fast, producing 1000's per second.  This
: code runs fine on the RS6000 when it is used as both client and server.
: 
: My problem arises when I use my Mac IIci running MacX as a server in System
: 7.0.1.  The two
: machines are connected by thin-net ethernet.  This line eventually terminates
: at a repeater.  When the RS6000 is really cranking out the points, eventually
: (after 3000-18000 points)
: the associated windows in MacX stop responding.

I had a similar problem with MacX on a Mac IIfx (System 6.?.?) .
My program just printed some strings and drew some lines and then did 
an XFlush(). The program worked OK with the Suns and the NCD X-terminals 
we had, but hung with MacX after a few XFlush()'s. 
Taking out XFlush stopped this. Definitly not a feature.

: When I run one RS6000 as client and another as server, I get no failures.
: 
: When I insert a sleep command into my code so that no more than 100 to 250
: points are plotted per second, I get no failures even with MacX on the II ci.
: 
: BTW - I realize that plotting single points is very network inefficient, but
: it is necessary for other reasons.

Perhaps the problem is caused by the underlying tcp-ip software: The debugger
showed the program waiting for a select-call to return. But having two interrupt driven programs running at once is perhaps too much for the Mac. It's nearly
 multi-tasking! (-:) 

: 
: Other ideas?
: -- 
Yup! Trash the software, I'll take the Mac. (-:)

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	Thomas


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From: imp@solbourne.com (Warner Losh)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X comms protocol
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:56:52 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Solbourne, User Interface Group

Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:26:51 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr14.192651.20923@solbourne.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Apr14.160445.8567@nuscc.nus.sg> eletanjm@nuscc.nus.sg
(Tan Jin Meng @ NUS) writes:
>I am jus wondering...
>	"X can support any reliable byte stream protocol"
>Then why are all the implementations of X that I've seen so far are all
>based on IP (with ethernet or serial line) as the lower level 
>communications protocol.

Well, this is only half ture.  All of the implementations that you
refer to are on top of TCP, not IP (well, indirectly).  TCP is built
on top of IP and makes it a reliable, byte stream protocol.  Since
everybody uses TCP/IP for their networking (well, almost everybody)
this gives X good connectivity.  Other transports have been used....

>Do such implementations exist? If not, why? If there are, then I am sure
>there are many people interested in hearing more about such products.

DEC provides X over LAT and X over DECnet for their various
workstations.  A long time ago I was told that someone had an X server
and Xlib using ChaosNet as the transport, but I can't find the
reference anymore.

Warner
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From: graeme@transquest.oe.fau.edu (Graeme Rae)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: XtNupdate default setting problem
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:11:33 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Advanced Marine Systems Group

Date: 6 Apr 92 20:05:46 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr6.200546.11931@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Im using the Xaw/Xam includes to generate a simple performance meter
type program. This basically means Im using 

	Stripchart.h and StripcharP.h  

These two files comment that the default rate is
once every 5 seconds, but I cant find the actual definition anywhere!

	How do I change this default (other than by command line 
option in my program) and is it possible to change this update
 rate to be floating point (I would like to update every 0.25
 secs if poss)


thanks


	Graeme



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From: converse@expo.lcs.mit.edu (Donna Converse)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X11R4 bugs list???
Date: 11 Apr 92 00:07:28 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: X Consortium, MIT Laboratory for Computer Science

Message-Id: <9204101703.AA00906@excess.lcs.mit.edu>
             <1992Apr9.155308.25999@aw2.fsl.ca.boeing.com> 
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 13:03:36 EDT


> Where can I get an X11R4 bugs list???

This is amusing, forgive me.  Are you interested in the bug reports 
received against R4 that were fixed in R5, or the ones which were received
against R4 and fixed in the public patches for R4, or the ones received
against R5 which are also bugs in R4, or the ones that have been received
and never fixed?  I'm not serious, I hope you aren't too serious either.

Bug reports against the core distribution of software from the X Consortium
are available to companies and institutions which are members of the X
Consortium.

For information on the X Consortium, see the XCONSORTIUM manual page.


Donna Converse
From: emuleomo@yoko.rutgers.edu (Emuleomo)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Motif vs Open-look vs X
Date: 11 Apr 92 15:15:01 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Date: 11 Apr 92 09:51:10 GMT
Message-Id: <Apr.11.05.51.09.1992.9322@yoko.rutgers.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Apr8.103749.4683@cc.uow.edu.au>, g9129499@cc.uow.edu.au (Jeremy Lawrence) writes:
> ahsiung@bbn.com (Anita Hsiung) writes:
> etc....
> 
> Which you prefer (OL or Motif) is purely a matter of taste. The consensus
> round here is that OL is nicer.
> 
> Jeremy

Use the OI toolkit. It does NOT FORCE you to choose b/w OpenLook or Motif.
You can have both. 
Say your application is named foo. If you want it to look like Motif,
type 
	foo -motif &
	or 
	foo -openlook3d &

Incredible! A command line switch!!

They have their own widget set, which IMHO is *superior*
to both OpenLook and Motif because it is C++ based.
The resources of your 'widgets' are set by *member functions* instead of
XtSetArg() ..... XtSetValues rigmarole!!!.
This is because the widgets are actually C++ classes.
This is what Motif should have been. I strongly suggest that OSF 
(are you there?) should take a serious look at this toolkit!
It is the *best* toolkit I have seen, and I have used Motif for 2 years
OpenLook for 6 months and OI for only 3 months.
Kudos to Solbourne. I hope this toolkit does not die from *poor marketting!!*
Maybe IBM should buy them out!!!
I now dread having to go back to Motif programming!
(check this out. To set a widget's font, you say   

	widget->set_font("a-nice-font");  (This requires *mucho* C code in Motif!)

	to print the value of a text widget, you say

	printf("Value is %s\n", textwidget->text());  
		(and you dont have to XmFree() anything either!!)

Call Solbourne!!
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From: mmoore@peruvian.utah.edu (Michael Moore)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: CFV:  comp.windows.x.apps
Date: 9 Apr 92 23:42:25 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Utah, CS Dept., Salt Lake City

Date: 9 Apr 92 16:24:49 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr9.162449.1508@uunet.uu.net>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.pex,comp.windows.x.motif


	This is the call for votes regarding the creation of the news
group "comp.windows.x.apps".

	To cast your vote, send email to "mmoore@peruvian.utah.edu", and be
sure to clearly indicate whether you vote yes or no.  Preferably, yes votes
should state "I vote yes for comp.windows.x.apps" and no votes should
state "I vote no for comp.windows.x.apps" somewhere in the message.

	Votes are only counted if sent through email.  Posted votes are
not valid.  

	This call for votes will end April 29th, 1992.  Votes RECEIVED
after 23:59 GMT of April 29th will not be counted.  At the end of the 
voting period I will talley the yes and no votes and post a summary.

	Creation of the newsgroup at the end of the voting period depends
upon the following conditions :

> AFTER the waiting period, and if there were no serious objections that might
>   invalidate the vote, and if 100 more valid YES/create votes are received
>   than NO/don't create AND at least 2/3 of the total number of valid votes
>   received are in favor of creation, a newgroup control message may be sent
>   out.  If the 100 vote margin or 2/3 percentage is not met, the group should
>   not be created."

	Pending is the official charter for the proposed group :

-------------------------- BEGIN CHARTER -------------------------------
Name   : comp.windows.x.apps
Status : Non-Moderated

     This newsgroup would be for the discussion of X Windows
applications, both public-domain and commercial (where appropriate).
Its main purpose would be to facilitate the finding of specific X
Window applications (such as ftp sites for those applications which
are in the public-domain), to discuss which application is best suited
to particular situations, to provide a medium where one can review
applications, and to provide a place where functional questions can be
asked about X Window programs.

     The newsgroup would cover all forms of X applications, regardless
of the widget set(s) used or the program's function.

     The newsgroup would not be intended for Xlib or widget
programming discussion, but would encourage discussion of application
compilation or modifications, provided they are not more suited to an
Xlib or widget question.

--------------------------- END CHARTER ----------------------------------
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From: karl@thuja.gsfc.nasa.gov (Karl A. Anderson)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: building R5 on SPARCstation under 4.1.2
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:34:20 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: NASA/GSFC code 923

Date: 7 Apr 92 12:28:02 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr7.082802@thuja.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Is this an FAQ?  Why am I getting ld errors when building X11R5 on my
Sun SPARCstation running OS 4.1.2? 
.
.
.
gcc -fstrength-reduce -fpcc-struct-return -o xinit -O   xinit.o
-L../.././lib/Xmu -lXmu -L../.././extensions/lib -lXext -L../.././lib/X
-lX11    -B/usr/bin/
ld: Undefined symbol
   _XtMalloc
   _XtGetConstraintResourceList
.
.
.
make: Warning: Target `all' not remade because of errors
Current working directory
/tmp_mnt/net/hydro1/disk2/src/X11R5/mit/clients/xinit
.
.
.

Why isn't the newly built libXt being linked in?

How do I get this thing built?  Email preferred, since I don't
ordinarily take this group.  TIA.
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From: eric@pencom.com
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: What is XtPointer?
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:41:53 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Pencom Software

Date: 14 Apr 92 15:01:24 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr14.150124.5319@pencom.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Apr13.114547.7786@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com>  
baechtel@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com writes:
> 
> I am having trouble compiling a xdbx which uses the Zaw library.
> Both use a variable type call XtPointer, but I can not find
> this defined anywhere in Xaw or Xt.

This is a type defined in the Xt headers.  If you are
using R3, well, you have problems.

XtPointer is defined to be the type for generic pointers.
void * is the preferred for ANSI compilers,
char * for pre-ANSI compilers.
From: smithje@pobox.upenn.edu (Joe Smith)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Help needed with x3270 font installation
Date: 7 Apr 92 10:25:29 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Date: 6 Apr 92 18:35:30 GMT
Message-Id: <72916@netnews.upenn.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.unix.ultrix

Could someone give a novice a hand - I can't get x3270 to use the 3270
font under X11R5.  I had it working in R4, but now ?  I ran bdftopcf
and copied the x3270 font to misc fonts directory and ran mkfontdir,
but I still get the message 'Warning: Cannot convert string "3270" to
type FontStruct'.

Thanks.

<Joe
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From: frost@helix.nih.gov (James P. Goltz)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Xremote and/or xinitremote documentation?
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:42:32 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: or lack thereof

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:13:36 GMT
Message-Id: <FROST.92Apr13161336@helix.nih.gov>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

This isn't in the FAQ, so...:-)

Does anyone know of any documentation for the protocol used by Xremote
and xinitremote?  The system admins here are calling them
"undocumented" and "unsupported".

They appear to support X servers over a dialup connection (or any
other serial connection, presumably).  Any pointers to online
documentation or references to published material will be welcome.

Thanks in advance.

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From: kes@gvls1.gvl.unisys.com (Kes Masalaitis)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: OpenWindows applications on X11R5 ??
Date: 9 Apr 92 02:17:47 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Unisys Defense Systems, Great Valley Labs, Paoli, Pa

Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:01:43 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr8.190143.2195@gvl.unisys.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I have a Sun 690 with OpenWindows 3.0 and Sun's AnswerBook loaded.
I would like to be able to run the AnswerBook application ( and other
OpenWindows applications ) on the 690 and display them on other 
workstations running X11R5.

Even if I have the proper OpenWindows environment variables, I get:

kes@s2 109% /usr/openwin/bin/xview/answerbook
/usr/openwin/bin/psh: Cannot connect to window server
Verifying environment ... finished
XView error: NULL pointer passed to xv_set
/usr/openwin/bin/xview/answerbook: test: argument expected
kes@s2 110%

Am I doing something stupid?  Can what I ask be done?

Thanks for the help,
Kes
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From: charette@cheetah.det.dec.com (Mark Charette)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Where is Ken Olsen's internet address??
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:29:31 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

Date: 17 Apr 92 14:15:24 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Apr17.141524.8607@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


In article <1992Apr17.131343.29244@ornl.gov>, jxt@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov (TOLLIVER J S) writes:
|>>|>Does anyone have the internet address of Ken Olsen so I can
|>>
|>Actually, I seem to recall reading about a year ago that Ken Olsen had
|>cancelled his email account and announced that he would no longer accept
|>email after returning from a trip and finding over 30 feet of email messages
|>awaiting his return.
|>

How many nanoseconds of messages is 30 feet ?

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