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From: dwk1@kepler.unh.edu (David W Kimball)
Subject: Run for your lives! It's a silly top ten list!
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 12:54:24 GMT


             the TOP TEN lines you'll never hear
              on Star Trek: The Next Generation
         -------------------------------------------

10) Worf: Klingons do *not* play tiddlywinks!

9) Picard: It's too bad we don't live in an enlightened, civilized era
            like they had in the twentieth century.

8) Geordi: Did you hear Wesley almost got kicked out of the academy again?
           They caught him smoking pot!
   Data: (looks puzzled) Pot? (brightens) Ah. Marijuana - a narcotic
         obtained from the hemp plant. Cannabis. Weed. Mary Jane. Grass.
         Reefer. Panama red...

7) Troi (to someone she is counseling): You've obviously mistaken me for
        someone who cares! Now get out!

6) Worf: Ouch! I got a paper cut!

5) a Starfleet admiral: Don't worry about it, Picard, there's plenty of
        other ships in your quadrant.

4) Riker: Not tonight - I have a headache.

3) Worf: Do we have to beam down right now? The Smurfs are on subspace T.V.!

2) Geordi: We've modified the warp coils by reversing the polarity of the
           inverse geometric phase integrator and adding a broad-band
           neutrino flux generator to the hyper-magnetic field controls.
   Riker: What will that do?
   Geordi: Not a damn thing, but it sure as hell *sounds* impressive!

1) Picard: Oh, screw the hailing frequencies. Fire all phasers!


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From: cortese@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese)
Subject: Re: more Kobiyashi
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 13 Apr 92 23:18:25 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.224459.6974@cco.caltech.edu> tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes:
>Followups set to r.a.s.misc.
>
>cortese@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese) writes:
>
>>But, here, he was faced with a situation that he could do absolutely
>>nothing about.  Spock was going to die, and he could do *nothing.*
>>Here, he could only watch and feel the worst emotion possible for him --
>>helplessness.
>
>That helplessness--namely, the "there's nothing I can do, and nothing I *could
>have* done" feeling--is precisely what I think the KM test is supposed to 
>get across, and Kirk apparently didn't get it.
>

It's almost impossible to get that feeling across deeply into one's
bones until a personal loss is suffered.  No matter how graphic they
make it, KM is still a simulation and all cadets know it.  After you
walk out of that simulator, your role and what you did is picked apart
quickly and by people of authority who have been through it before.
After one suffers a very personal loss that drives the feeling of
helplessness home, there is no such postmortem.  You simply learn to cope
day to day and after many years, it becomes part of you as does any
experience.  *NO* simulation could ever hope to drive that home. 

Regards,
Janis C.
From: mary@wheat-chex.ai.mit.edu (Mary S. Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Occurance of 18 in ST: TNG
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:09:55 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory

This thread is desperately seeking occurrences of the mystical number
eighteen.  Our search has now led us to the pips on the characters'
uniforms....

In article <1992Apr14.174001.4929@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jal41820@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Smiley) writes:
>rll1@kepler.unh.edu (Robert L Lamothe) writes:
>:)In article <1992Apr10.213504.17493@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jal41820@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Smiley) writes:
[Picard, Riker, Crusher and Worf's pip counts deleted]
>:)>Troi       2 (Well, would be if she wore a real uniform.)
>:)            ^  I hate to bust you up on this one but in the episode where Troi
>:)>Data       2  takes command she has an honorary rank of Lt. Commander, thats
>:)>LaForge    2  3 pips making your total 19.

>A) Lesse... Lt. Commander Data, 2 pips. I guess you're trying to say
>Troi is a sorta different Lt. Commander, then?
>
>B) If this were the case, considering how long this has been up, don't you 
>think Tim, Atushi, Michael, Vidiot, Matt, and anyone else would have already
>jumped on it?  :)

I guess I qualify as "anyone else," and here I come...  Better late
than never...

Data and LaForge are both lieutenant commanders.  I would say that
gives them 2.5 pips each (two solid ones and one hollow one each).
Allowing Troi a virtual 2.5 pips for the uniform she ought to be
wearing, gives us a contribution of 7.5 where you had 6.  Time to go
home?

N.B. I think the issue Data's pip count was laboriously discussed in
the wake of "Cause and Effect."
Mary Soon Lee    (mary@ai.mit.edu)
From: meg5184@hertz.njit.edu (Starman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: * Wanted: Star Trek sound for Mac
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:47:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

Howdy,
	I'm looking for a Trak sound on the Mac for my terminal program.
Right now it says 'Transfer Complete' which I'm getting REAL tired of. I
was looking for a line from Star Trek TOS or TNG where someone says
"Transfer successful" or something like that. I don't have a recorder or
I'd do it myself. I looked at the files on smaug.cs.hope.edu, but they
don't have anything that I really think fits. If anyone can tell me
where to get one, I'd appreciate it.

===========================================================================
"We seek peaceful coexistance!"		      |		 Mike
"Yeah, and monkeys will fly outa my butt!"    |	  meg5184@hertz.njit.edu
===========================================================================
		Wayne's World: The Next Generation...NOT!
===========================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: jp929099@longs.LANCE.ColoState.EDU (Joseph Peterson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Occurance of 18 in ST: TNG
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:39:57 GMT
Reply-To: jp929099@longs.LANCE.ColoState.EDU (Joseph Peterson)
Organization: Engineering College, Colorado State University

In article <1992Apr15.092403.9117@gn.ecn.purdue.edu>,
mbrockma@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Matt Brockman) writes:
> In article <29EB65FD.731@noiro.acs.uci.edu> cortese@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu
(Janis Maria Cortese) writes:
> >
> >No, no, no.  18 is the hex version of 24.
> >
> >16^1 + 8 = 16+8=24.
> 
> I think you want a * (multiplication) and not a ^ (exponent).

No, in this case it does not matter, perhaps if it were written 1 * 16^1
+ 8 * 16^0 it would
be easier to see, but the way it was originally is fine.

> >
> >P.S.: Please god/dess, don't let me have f*cked up this one . . .
> 
>
 
You didn't.

JEEP
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From: jkramer@sunwise.UWaterloo.ca (Viscous Pig Dog)
Subject: Re: Star Trek's Classics - Top 10 List
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 16:19:43 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.231340.28303@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes:
>
>I agree with your point about acting vs. overacting but that wasn't
>what I was referring to. There's a difference between "Kirk being
>loud and expressive because he *is* a loud and expressive man" and "Shatner
>blowing the scenery to smithereens by multiplying that expressiveness
>by 10^4 and adding ridiculous faces in the bargain." I was referring to the 


Shouldn't that be 1^4 ?

>former in my paragraph -- to me, that feels natural and unforced. 
>
>I will agree that Shatner tended to do the latter more than the former on
>average.
>

I'll add that Shatner tended to do it (ie. be a ham) a lot more 
in the movies than
in the series and the movies being more recent tend to overshadow
his better performances in the series. Of course, a lot of people
here probably still see the series so there judgement would, of course,
not be clouded in such a manner.

Jeff Kramer.
-- 

"We're goin ta find out who the better man is, a chicken or a dog ...
 I tell ya boy, your mother's the better man" , Foghorn Leghorn.
                   "Education is a right", Phhhhhht.
From: jfriday@ada.stat.uga.edu (Paul Stacy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: What would YOU like to see a Galaxy class ship named?
Date: 17 Apr 92 15:02:12 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia Statistics Department

In article <qiw7iB1w164w@berry.Cary.NC.US> pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry) writes:
>jlee@smylex.UUCP (Jeff Lee) writes:
>
>> However, perhaps the wall sculptures depict only the STARSHIPS named 
>> _Enterprise_?  I don't recall seeing the aircraft carrier there, either...
>
>You may not recall it, but it's there.
>

The aircraft carrier is the lowest one on the wall (toward the right if
I recall.)


Paul "Joe Friday" Stacy (not net.police)       Buffalo State College, New York
STACY54@SNYBUFVA.BITNET (Buffalo State College VAX)                JUST THE
jfriday@marie.stat.uga.edu (Univ. of Georgia, Athens UNIX)      "VAX", MA'AM!
Disclaimer:  This isn't the opinion of the school, police, Chief of Detective
             Staff Brown, Planet Spaceball, Starfleet Command, or the Pentagon.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: wombat@eng.umd.edu (Jose Gonzalez)
Subject: Re: Series' beginnings
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 23:33:24 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, College of Engineering
Originator: wombat@coke.eng.umd.edu

In article <1992Apr16.194712.2763@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes:
>>TNG  should  take  some  clues  from  this  and  show  us how the
>>Enterprise-D crew would act if thrust into a strange situation.  Maybe this
>>is why I'm looking forward to "Time's Arrow" so much.  
>
>From what I understand, it's only one crewmember, and he's the one
>that's "unsuited for television", in your view.

Actually, it's not Picard.  Every report I've seen here on r.a.s.c. has stated 
that it was Data and another character, and one report said that it was Guinan.

-- 
Jose Gonzalez
                       Spock- "In your own way, you are as stubborn as another
                               captain of the Enterprise I once knew."
                       Picard-"Then I'm in good company, sir."
From: gwangung@milton.u.washington.edu (Just another theatre geek.....)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Name for Kirk
Keywords: a e i o and u
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:35:41 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Apr13.174619.17488@supernet.dallas.haus.com> bmadsen@supernet.dallas.haus.com (Brian Madsen) writes:
>Desilu WAS the parent company.  Desilu bought RKO, and was then bought
>by Paramount, which was then bought by Gulf and Western.  Question: is
>that as far as it's gone now, or has Gulf and Western been bought out?

	It's called Paramount Communications Inc. 

	Some of the more interesting divisions are
	Madison Square Garden Corp.
	Miss Universe Inc.
	New York Knicks'
	New York Rangers
	USA Network (joint venture with MCA)
	Simon & Schuster
	Prentice Hall
	Pocket Books


-- 
Roger Tang gwangung@milton.u.washington.edu
Executive Producer Emeritus, Asian Theatre at the UW;
	The definition of having balls is a non-singer who goes karaoke singing 
with the cast of a musical revue.
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current,comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Announcing the Star Trek-TNG Episode Guide stack
From: mike@batpad.lgb.CA.US (Mike Batchelor)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 18:03:06 PDT
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

davids@c3.lanl.gov (David Simmons) writes:

> In article <77qj3hq@lynx.unm.edu>, sdavey@triton.unm.edu (Sean Davey) writes:
> |> In article <1992Apr7.232528.18784@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
> |> >Some have them, some don't.  I work mostly with the newer ones, which hav
> |> >neither switch nor reset button.  Ctrl-Cmd-trianglethingy usually doesn't
> |> >work, and the power cord must be disconnected.
> |> >
> |> this seems really silly.  every mac has an on off switch.  it's usually a
> |> button in the back.  may not look like a switch, but it is.
> |> 	Sean
> [...]
> Sheesh!  The power switch is listed in the manual.  Or don't you
> know how to read?

Obviously he doesn't.  Why do you think he bought a Mac?

(ducking)



[] ---
[] Mike Batchelor -- mike@batpad.lgb.CA.US -- cerritos.edu!batpad!mike
[] Long Beach, California
[] TNG Quote: "You were travelling in close formation at over 80,000 kph, only
[] 10 meters from Cadet Albert, and you didn't even know his orientation?!?"
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: iacovone@zeus.franklin.edu (Daniel R. Iacovone)
Subject: Re: What would YOU like to see a Galaxy class ship named?
Organization: Franklin University (Columbus, OH)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:14:32 GMT

In article <1992Apr05.213045.15588@r-node.gts.org> yung@r-node.gts.org (Amos Yung) writes:
>
>How about USS Exxon?  :^)

Better yet-
             USS Valdeze.

It could cause an antimatter spill around Jupiter.
From: bmadsen@supernet.dallas.haus.com (Brian Madsen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Name for Kirk
Keywords: a e i o and u
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:46:19 GMT
Organization: Harris Adacom Corporation, Dallas, Tx

In article <2-tjm_-@lynx.unm.edu> cwayne@triton.unm.edu (Chris Wayne) writes:
>In article <1992Apr10.172730.23650@stsci.edu> wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan) writes:
>
>>Wasn't 'Herbert' named after a 'Herbert' who was either at
>>Paramount/Desilu or at NBC?
>
>     That's Herbert Solow, in charge of production for Norway Corp.
>Not sure what Norway Corp was though.  It must have been Desilu's
>parent company unitl Paramount bought it?  Can anyone help this up?
>

This would be hysterically funny if true.

Anyway, first of all:

Desilu WAS the parent company.  Desilu bought RKO, and was then bought
by Paramount, which was then bought by Gulf and Western.  Question: is
that as far as it's gone now, or has Gulf and Western been bought out?

Second of all:

I once wrote to Paramount asking what Norway Corporation was.  They
responded that it's a legal entity created by Gene Roddenberry.

-- 

Brian C. Madsen

bmadsen@supernet.haus.com
From: max@west.darkside.com (Max Pandaemonium)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Using Old trek stars on new trek holodeck!!!!!!!!
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:44:43 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM

st185@jane.uh.edu (Roche, Robert F.) writes:

> the possibilities are endless.  I am sure that Sulu would just love to appear
> on one of the Next Gen. shows....

I bet that Sulu is the only character that wouldn't look like they're 
about to keel over.  I'd assume that the holodeck would produce an image 
of the characters while they were piloting the _Enterprise_ in the 
original series . . .

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch)
Subject: Re: Star Trek's Classics - Top 10 List
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 22:36:18 GMT

kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes:
>In article <1992Apr12.230509.28946@acsu.buffalo.edu> v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey) writes:

[on "City on the Edge of Forever"]

>>>That scene was supposed to be goofy--I was laughing, which was the intended
>>>effect. As you said, I *did* feel Kirk's emotions at the climax as well as
>>>his feelings for Ms. Keeler -- there's no way I would have felt that if
>>>Shatner hadn't been doing something right.

>>      He was doing something right.  He was being Kirk.  Part and 
>>      parcel of Kirk is BAD ACTING.  

>Oh come on -- you're defining "bad acting" as "the kind of acting that Kirk
>does". 

Change it from "Kirk" to "Shatner" and you're pretty well on my definition,
too.  :-)

I think Shatner was pretty miserable in *general*, but I have to disagree on
"City".  It, the portrayal of the normal Kirk in "Mirror, Mirror", and "The
Trouble with Tribbles" are really the three places in TOS where I remember
wholeheartedly liking the man's acting.  The "ricepicker" bit was probably
the weakest of the episode, but Kirk's final muttered, "Let's get the hell out
of here" is one of TOS's strongest moments I can think of.

>Sure, Kirk is showy and flamboyant -- that's the kind of man Kirk
>is and if he succeeds in projecting the emotions I'm supposed to be feeling,
>it's in no way "bad acting".

I disagree.  Acting, to me, is not supposed to hold up a sign saying "Feel
THIS emotion now!"  It's got to be a bit better than that.  You've pointed 
out places before where Stewart manages to get the point and the emotions
across without being forced (some quite recently), and I agree.  Shatner
rarely if ever managed it, IMHO.

Tim Lynch
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori)
Subject: Re: Series' beginnings (was something about 3 in 1 review)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 00:30:53 GMT

In article <9204142341.AA24396@tyrell.CFSMO.Honeywell.COM> ottoh3@CFSMO.Honeywell.COM (Otto Heuer #3) writes:
>
> [Otto lists some of his episode rankings -- check the original article
>  if you want to see them.]

I take it back, Otto. You're not the #2 tide-bucker. You're #1, #2, #3
and #4. 

But then, calling Patrick Stewart a bad actor probably qualified you
for the first 3 just on its own.


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  "Prior to Starfleet Academy commencement ceremonies, an in-flight
   accident destroys five ships, including the one carrying Wesley
   Crusher" -- TV Guide: Mar. 28 - Apr. 3
From: kuchar@buast7.bu.edu (Tom Kuchar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Asimov Lost
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:06:32 GMT
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <sdtRSyy00WBL43uFpC@andrew.cmu.edu> bt16+@andrew.cmu.edu (Bill Thomas) writes:
>
>Anyway, does anyone know if Asimov contributed to Star Trek, or what he
>thought of the show?
>

He was billed in ST:TMP as a `special science consultant'.  Basically,
Paramount execs thought Roddenberry was losing it by having a movie
that talked about machines not only being intelligent but self-aware.
They execs wanted a very well-respected sci-fi writer to read the
script to see if Gene was just having a bad day.  Asimov told them it
was a very legitimate sci-fi construct and that the idea would make a
good movie.

Also, Gene was fond of telling about the time he insulted Asimov when
`The Cage' was being premiered by the studio. 

	
-- 
Tom Kuchar			  | `Belay that nose-picking, Cadet Stimpy!'
kuchar@buast7.bu.edu		  |       - Cmdr. Hoek
Department of Astronomy		  |  
Boston Univerity		  |     `Oh Joy of joys!' - SJC
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: dgiles@Apple.COM (Darren Giles)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Star Trek Marathon
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:39:07 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

>From a flyer handed to me this weekend by a friend:

              "The Raven Theater Star Trek Marathon:

   Beam aboard the Star Ship Raven as we take an unprecedented journey
           through Gene Rodenberry's universe of Star Trek.

=>> ALL SIX FILMS SHOWN BACK-TO-BACK FOR ONLY $5 (TOTAL FOR ALL SIX!!).

                              [Note the price ^^, less than $1 each!]

     Join Kirk, Spock, Bones and the crew of the Enterprise in:

           1  Star Trek The Motion Picture        (12 noon)
           2  Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan        (2:15)
           3  Star Trek III The Search for Spock    (4:15)
           4  Star Trek IV The Voyage Home          (6:00)
           5  Star Trek V The Final Frontier        (8:00)
           6  Star Trek VI The Undiscovered Country (9:45)

                    All six films shown each day:
              SATURDAY, APRIL 18, and SUNDAY, APRIL 19.
              You may come and go as you wish all day.

                     Special for the marathon:
   serving Romulan (7-up) ale, and Gok Popcorn (a Klingon delicacy!).

                   State of the art auditorium:
   * Dolby SR Sound (Spectral Recording)        * Meyer Speakers
   * Studio quality lenses and screen           * 600 seat auditorium

Cafe 'The Ravenous' features full dinners, exotic coffees and yummy desserts.

                  Pre-sale tickets available at:
         The Raven Theater, 115 North Street, Healdsburg, CA.
            You can call (707) 433-5448 for details."

I'm told this is the first time anyone has done all six films at one time
(apparently, a theater in San Francisco did I through V once, and charged
$5 _EACH_ to see them!).  Looks like fun!  See you there.


P.S.  To get there from the Bay Area:  Take 101 North past Santa Rosa;
take the Central Headlsburg exit; go through town and past the park;
turn right on North Street...  there is a raven's head sign about 200 feet
ahead on the left -- that's it!
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From: cortese@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese)
Subject: Re: Star Trek's Classics - Top 10 List
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:13:08 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.161943.29087@watserv1.waterloo.edu> jkramer@sunwise.UWaterloo.ca (Viscous Pig Dog) writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.231340.28303@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes:
>>
>>I agree with your point about acting vs. overacting but that wasn't
>>what I was referring to. There's a difference between "Kirk being
>>loud and expressive because he *is* a loud and expressive man" and "Shatner
>>blowing the scenery to smithereens by multiplying that expressiveness
>>by 10^4 and adding ridiculous faces in the bargain." I was referring to the 
>
>
>Shouldn't that be 1^4 ?
>
>>former in my paragraph -- to me, that feels natural and unforced. 
>>
>>I will agree that Shatner tended to do the latter more than the former on
>>average.
>>
>
>I'll add that Shatner tended to do it (ie. be a ham) a lot more 
>in the movies than
>in the series and the movies being more recent tend to overshadow
>his better performances in the series. Of course, a lot of people
>here probably still see the series so there judgement would, of course,
>not be clouded in such a manner.
>

Rather predictably, I disagree.  Shatner mellowed much more in the
movies.  He seemed aware of the caricatures of his performance inthe
series and tried to quiet down a bit.  That one long scene between him
and Carol in the Genesis cave was wonderful, as was his little
chin-on-the-rail bit at the end of TWoK.  Numbers three and four I'm not
too fond of, but I think he did wonderfully there, too.  Five never
happened, so I can't say anything about it, right?

Six was a little return to the ways of the old series, but I still think
he didn't ham it up as much.  Watch the bit with him making that log
entry about not being able to forgive the Klingons, and then watch the
cheesy scene in _The Naked Time_ where he moons over the ship like a
lover and tell me he was better in the series!

Regards,
Janis C.