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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 12:28:06 EDT
From:         RHADDEN%USGSRESV.BITNET@Kentvm.Kent.edu
Subject:      RE: Hats
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Hats off to you for raising an important subject! Not to do a "hat dance",
but what people wear on their head is not as important as what is inside.
If the hat does not have a political symbol/message etc., which might be
taken to mean the library supports or condons that political symbol, or
might be construed that the worker is using his/her position to promote or
foster that political message, then unless it is dangerous, don't worry about
it.
   If it really bugs you, then think about the cost of supplying a uniform
hat, and insisting that all employees wear one. The cure can be more expensive
than the problem.
   As a hat wearer for many years, I would not fdream of wearing one at
work except for Halloween dress up at the Reference Desk. I have a
South Sea head piece topped with the skull of some kind of large rodent.
The staff call it my "Internet hat".
lee hadden
usgs library
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 10:51:36 EDT
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From:         Joel <ZUCKJOEL@ol.isu.edu>
Subject:      hats and heads, clothes & bodies

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I am constantly amazed at the trivial matters that loom so important
in the minds of so many....I would imagine most people on the list
would regard any attempt to impose a "hat code" as beyond funny and
a symptom of a repressive, control-freak type mentality that has
no place in *any* library, certainly not in an academic one where
concepts such as intellectual freedom and diversity are at the core
of the institution....as that big ole' Bear at Heart, Gary Klein,
has already said, you project professionalism by actions, not attire

for those of you who may have missed it in the news, across state from
me at the University of Idaho the campus police recently apprehended
a student who was studying nude in the library....he would come in
clothed, go into one of the small study rooms upstairs, and strip
buck naked....he was actually studying, claimed being without clothes
made him feel more comfortable and thus retain more information....
somewhere in this is a lesson for us all......


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From:         Theresa Arndt <V302GC8H@UBVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      information machine

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I am interested in hearing from anyone who is using a computer program
to assist user when there are no reference librarians on duty.  Such a
program might give general info about reference hours, directional info,
answers to routine questions, etc.
     I have heard of one such program called the "Information Machine"
and another called "Ask Sam".  If anyone has any information on the use
of these or other similar programs please respond directly to me.  Any
and all information will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Theresa S. Arndt
Lockwood Library, SUNY-Buffalo
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From:         EMERSON@GENESEO.BITNET
Subject:      Re: re:hats

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Of course, one needs an MLS to add paper to CD-ROM printers.  Also,
to un-jam paper jams, clear paper jams in the copiers, replace light
bulbs in study carrels, and make the lobby pay phone work.

Seriously, I too would tread lightly on the hats issue.  For many of
our foreign students, headgear is a regular part of their dress.
Everyone seems to be wearing baseball caps these days, and they never
take them off.  I don't find this offensive, as long as the student
is clean and neat.

Debby Emerson
monroe Community College
emerson@geneseo
From: BRADLCD@AUDUCADM.DUC.AUBURN.EDU (C. Diane Bradley)
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------
This is being cross-posted to govdoc-l, pacs-l, help-net, libref-l, and
libadmn.  My apologies for any inconvenience.

During the Presidential campaign, I downloaded and printed for use by
our students numerous speeches and position papers from the candidates.
The documents were downloaded from nptn.org, clinton@marist, and
info.umd.edu.

We would like to permanently retain this material.  However, our
Associate Librarian for Reference and Information Services has posed
the question of whether or not the material is copyrighted.  To carry
the question a step further, can we assume that information found on
databases accessed through gophers, for example, are public domain
unless copyright ownership is specified? How are other libraries
handling this situation?

PLEASE CORRESPOND DIRECTLY TO ME as I have some of the lists set to
nomail.  I will summarize responses and post to the list.  Thanks in
advance for your input.
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------

From:   SMTP%"law-lib@ucdavis.edu" 20-NOV-1992 08:54:24.29
To:     law-lib@ucdavis.edu
CC:
Subj:   Amendment 2, Colorado Constitution

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There are now two lists on Amendment 2:
        amend2-discuss
and
        amend2-info.

To subscribe to either list, send mail to
        Majordomo@cs.colorado.edu
where the body of the message is:
        subscribe <listname>

Steven C. Perkins                               8sperkin@jmls.edu
John Marshall Law School                        pl0124@mail.psi.net
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From:         Deborah Johnson <djohnso3@ua.d.umn.edu>
Subject:      Re: Library Building Planning
              McFarlin Library," at Nov 18, 92 10:52 am

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Response in regard to inquiry regarding academic library building planning:
> Northeast Louisiana University, Monroe, LA is planning to begin construction
> on a new library earyl in 1994.  The service points have been identified in
> the program plan but no architectural work has been done.  I just received wor
   d
> today about ad library planning discussion list on QUCDN and the list's name
> is LIBPLN-L.  If anyone has the subscription info, I would also appreciate it.
>
> Don Smith
> Associate Director for General Services
> McFarlin Library, The University of Tulsa
> but soon to be
> Director, Sandel Library
> Norttheast Louisiana University
>


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Deborah S. Johnson
Library
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10 University Drive
Duluth MN   55812-2495
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From:         KINGM@uwec.bitnet
Subject:      Business CD-ROM's assistance

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
The Business Department here has surprized us with a "request" for two
CD-ROM subscriptions.  Does anyone out there have either/both? Compact
Disclosure &/or PC Plus Corporate Text by S & P's Compustat Services?
I found a 1988 review on Disclosure, but nothing in my files about
Corporate Text.  How much overlap is there between the two?  Have you
Corporate Text.  How much overlap is there between the two?  What has the
patron reaction been?  Is one easier to use?  Would a subscription to one
of these enable us to drop our Q-Data SEC-File microfiche subscription?
Does anyone remember seeing recent reviews of these?
Thanks in advance.

Mimi King, Head of Reference
           UW-Eau Claire
Internet: kingm@uwec.edu
Phone: (715) 836-4958
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I would love to know if anyone has answers to these questions. Could they be
posted to the list?

Eileen Daniel
Reference Dept
Scott Library
ext 88889
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:13:05 EDT
From:         easlsue@UBE.BITNET
Subject:      Gay/Lesbian Librarians

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Dave Strickler asks if gay and lesbian librarians are welcome in the
profession?l
I welcome any professionals and I fail to see any reason why sexual
preferences make anyone less professional.  Unprofessional behavior
such as forcing one's sexual preferences on an unwilling partner
makes one unprofessional.
We need to stand behind those who are unfairly discriminated against
and I do believe that would mean refusing to hold a professional
meeting in a state that discriminates on the basis of sexual preference.

Susan
wheeler
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From:         Sue Searing <SEARING@macc.wisc.edu>
Subject:      chaos on the shelves

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Concerning the need for accurate classification in the age of electronic
catalogs:  Our locally-designed opac (NLS) does not have a call number browse
feature, and it's something our patrons ask for rather often.  Clearly, in the
minds of library users, access by keyword or LCSH term does NOT substitute for
browsing a classified list.
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 08:42:04 EDT
From:         "Terry.Link" <20676TPL@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      reference desk

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
In response to Karen's response to the MSU experience as related by Miller and
Shapiro in separate articles, feel free to contact me as one of three who have
experienced the before and after.

all good things,

Terry Link
Reference Librarian
Michigan State University
20676tpl@msu

These are my opinions, no one else would want them.
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From:         "Steven J. Herro" <herrsj%sncac.snc.edu@Kentvm.Kent.edu>
Subject:      Re: Hats
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              92 7:58 pm

Hats...was meant to be amusing and now the joke is wearing.  Let's
move on.  Diane Editor-for-life
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I have no problems with students wearing hats while on the job, especially
when a library, such as ours, has a rather mediocre corps of student workers,
and one of the best ones usually wears a Miami Hurricanes hat!

The Director of Communication and Public Relations of our college frowns
upon the wearing of college paraphrenalia other than our own, but I have no
problem with the wearing of hats, whether those displaying our own school
names or not, are worn.

Steve Herro
herrsj@sncac.snc.edu
St. Norbert College Todd Wehr Library
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Subject:      re:hats
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Well all, I would like to thank Kathy Schulz for diverting our minds
from what must have been the 637th reply on the "lurkers" issue.

However, I would like to join with Bill Drew to say that there are
other more pressing issues such as today when I arrived at the
Reference Desk, there was an anonymous note left saying that
it sure would be nice to have a Referance (sic) librarian on
duty on Saturday nights to add new paper to the CD-ROM printers!
Didn't know you needed an MLS for that!

Oh well.

Ave atque vale.


Edward Wladas
Santa Clara University
ewladas@scuacc.scu.edu; ewladas@scu.bitnet"
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From:         MARK SCHUMACHER <SCHUMAC@UNCG.BITNET>
Subject:      presidential debates

Please respond directly to SCHUMAC@UNCG.  Thanks the Moderator

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I'm sure this was answered before, but if so, I have misplaced the infor-
mation.
Where can a colleague find the transcripts of the presidential (and vice-
presidential) debates?
Thanks in advance. Please respond to me directly.

Mark Schumacher
UNC-Greensboro
schumac@iris.uncg.edu
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:00:33 EDT
From:         "Steven J. Herro" <herrsj@sncac.snc.edu>
Subject:      Serge Archives

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Colleagues:

A patron seeks to determine the location of the Serge Archives.  We have
determined that it is not in the US and there are no references to it
in World of Learning or Stockton Press' International Handbook of Univer-
sities.

The prof thinks that it might be in London, Brussels, or Paris.  Can anyone
help out in the location of this archives?  If you respond to me, I will post
for the list.

Thanks in advance.

Steve Herro
St. Norbert College Todd Wehr Library
herrsj@sncac.snc.edu
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:38:30 EDT
From:         chagle@phys.udallas.edu
Subject:      Sports bottles

Please reply to sender chagle@phys.udallas.edu  and They will summarize
the answers to this question to the list.  Thank you, The Moderator
----------------------------Original message----------------------------


Now that we have just about exhausted the subject of hats worn by student
workers in the library, I want to bring up another perhaps trivial subject:
sports bottles.  Do any libraries have a policy about the bringing in of
these bottles and allowing them to sit on the tables, shelves, etc. while
the patron takes an occasional sip?  We have scads of them brought into
our library and very occasionally the tops come off and there are spills.
So far, we have not asked the patron to remove them from the library or
keep them hidden in their backpacks.

PLEASE respond only to me directly, not the list.  I will summarize if
warranted by responses.

Claudette Hagle at University of Dallas
Internet:  CHAGLE@PHYS.udallas.edu
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------

From:   USDCSV::FAW          19-NOV-1992 08:56:56.12
To:     SMTP%"law-lib@ucdavis.edu"
CC:     FAW,FAW
Subj:   RE: AALL letter

AALL has had a history and tradition of boycotting areas where
discrimination takes place.  Many years ago the annual meeting was moved
from Texas because of discrimination against blacks by hotels.  The AALL
organization is composed of all types of individuals who are all human
beings.  We must band together to fight discrimination where ever it
occurs, and especially if it interfers with members of our organization.

Discrimination against homosexual people is no different from
discrimination against blacks, jews, catholics, mormans, native Americans,
Italians, or Mexicans.

If we allow states or local governments to discriminate against any people
then we are approving of their actions.  By fighting against their actions
we are fighting for the freedom and civil rights of all citizens.

We expect all Americans to be allowed the same rights to live, but these
laws are restricting certain people from living where they want, working
where they are qualified, participating in the military, or marrying whom
they want.  This applies to all people of any race, creed, sex, or
sexual orientation.

The only way to end discrimination is to educate prejudiced individuals.
That may upset the prejudiced people, but it is necessary if America is to
be the "free" land that we all talk about.  The American Way is the
un-prejudiced way.

We must fight discrimination, and the way AALL can do it is to not
participate in states which promote discrimination against anyone.

Frank Weston

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From:         BILL DREW <DREWWE%SNYMORVA.BITNET@Kentvm.Kent.edu>
Subject:      Re: Hats
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Lets not get our dander up about such silly things as hats.

There are many more important issues facing libraries such as where the
janitorial staff keeps the toilet paper when they aren't in.

Wilfred Drew (Call me "Bill")   Serials/Reference/Computers Librarian
State University of New York  College of Agriculture and Technology
P.O. Box 902;  Morrisville, NY 13408-0902
BITNET: DREWWE@SNYMORVA Internet: DREWWE@SNYMORVA.CS.SNYMOR.EDU
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Any opinions expressed here are mine and are subject to change without notice.
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:10:37 EDT
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From:         popwin@uu.psi.com
Subject:      reference sources

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The following message has been cross-posted to LIBREF & BUSLIB.
Sorry for duplication!
-----------------------------------------------------------------

I would like to know if there are sources that

1. listed business jargons or phrases, e.g. buy out.

2. listed company names on Wall Street or the stock market.

3. listed country names.

I am particularly interested in electronic sources, like a file
in a FTP site.

Please send response to me since I am not on either LIBREF &
BUSLIB.

Thank you!

Kathy Kwan
Systems Librarian
Winthrop-University Hospital
kwan@winthrop.org
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