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From: cmv@looney.att.com (Craig M. Votava)
Subject: Averaging $11.83 per title from Columbia House LD Club
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:19:45 GMT

After watching the "Columbia House LD Club" wars in this newsgroup for awhile
now, I've decided to find out how well I've done with them. The statistic
that I feel is important is how much money per title I am averaging (including
tax, shipping and handling. After a few minutes of rummaging through my
checkbook, I come up with an average cost (to date) of $11.83 per title! I was
impressed.

This is a rather misleading figure though, as you have to take into account
my method of purchasing titles from CHLDC as well as the actual titles that
I bought. Here are the details:

1.) I enroll myself, get 3 for $1.00 plus $2.50 shipping (I forgot tax): $7.50
	Star Wars
	Empire Strikes Back
	Return of the Jedi

*** Average $ per title at this point: $2.50 ($7.50/3 titles)

2.) I satisfy my obligation all at once by purchasing the Thin Man Series,
    total with shipping and tax:	$136.15
	The Thin Man
	After the Thin Man
	Shadow of the Thin Man
	Another Thin Man
	Song of the Thin Man
	The Thin Man Goes Home

*** Average $ per title at this point: $15.96 ($143.65/9 titles)

3.) I enroll my brother-in-law, and get 1 for $1.00 plus $2.50 shipping, he
    gets 3 for $1.00 plus $2.50 shipping (for me for christmas): $10.16
	North to Alaska
	Journey to the Center of the Earth
	Sound of Music
	Quiet Man 40th Anniversary Boxed Set

*** Average $ per title at this point: $11.83 ($153.81/13 titles)
*** This is where I'm at today.

For the future...

4.) I'm expecting another title in at $19.95 any day now. This was part of
    the "buy-one-get-the-next-one-at-or-below-that-price-for-$19.95 deal that
    I used when I bought the Thin Man Series. I'll elaborate on this in another
    post. Once this comes in... (assume $23.00)

*** Average $ per title at this point: $12.63 ($176.81/14 titles)

5.) I have to buy 2 more titles at $29.95 or more to satisfy the other
	obligation. I haven't picked these, but assume $62.50 total...

*** Average $ per title at this point: $14.96 ($239.31/16 titles)

This is not bad, as far as I'm concerned... comments?

-Craig

	()_()	Craig Votava
	 (_)	AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville IL
		cmv@looney.att.com
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: wayne@ultra.com (Wayne Hathaway)
Subject: Re: CD-I to compete with LD?
Reply-To: wayne@ultra.com (Wayne Hathaway)
Organization: Ultra Network Technologies
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 19:55:37 GMT

> The rep from Phillips stated that it was their intent to 'do away'
> with the rental market by providing 5" CD-I movie disks at a retail
> price equivalent to that of Audio CDs! ($8-$15).

This is off the track, but I have a question: Am I the only one who
thinks this is ridiculous?  I mean, I almost *NEVER* watch a movie
more than once.  I am *NOT* going to buy a movie for even $5 if I can
rent it for $2.

Am I that much out of touch?  (And no snide comments! :-)

    Wayne Hathaway               domain: wayne@Ultra.COM
    Ultra Network Technologies     uucp: ...!ames!ultra!wayne
    101 Daggett Drive             phone: 408-922-0100 x132
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: Andy Weir <Andy_Weir@icarus.curtin.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Video camera for backpacking?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A729462F7D013334@felix.curtin.edu.au>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 13 Nov 92 11: 46:55 GMT
Organization: Curtin University, Perth, Western Australia
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 03:45:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.142953.16587@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> Alex F.
Dietz, afd@bellcore.com writes:
>Anyway. I'm taking a long hiking & backpacking trip early next
>year and would like to video parts of it.  Weight is an important
>factor, as is the ruggedness of the camera.  What other factors
>should I consider?  What cameras fit these requirements?  Thanks.

I recently used an AKAI  I-HQ  Palmcorder for a trip to the UK and Europe
on a six week holiday.  Far from backpacking but it still exposed the
camera to a wide range of conditions from snow at 10000 ft thru to
sulphurous steam in the in the underground Baths at Bath and in damp
caves elsewhere.  Even had a few days with it stuck up my rainjacket
while I was soaked to the skin in heavy downpours trying to shoot the
scenes on the only chance I was going to get at whatever place it was.

I don't think you would have much trouble with any of the small
palmcorders which weigh around a kilo with battery.  I had two 1100mwatt 
batteries and one 2200.  Don't get the 2200 as I found it gave little
more than the 1100s but took longer to charge.  The batteries themselves
should have given about 45 minutes use each and double for the bigger one
but I found that with zooming etc I was lucky to get around 20 minutes
from each.  I shot over six hours worth in the six weeks and got by
easily with the three charging them on the quick charger that came with
the camera and was also the static power source which I used to review
the tapes at night.  I expect your biggest problem will be recharging.

You should also consider how you are going to carry the camera as there
is always something else to shoot.  I used a shoulder bag which we
carried our rainjackets and the usual junk in and slung the camera from
my neck during the busy times.  Your backpack won't be suitable if you
are having to get it out frequently and you won't want it around your
neck all the time. 

 Security of the camera will no doubt be your biggest problem, not so
much with your own group in isolation but when you are in accomodation in
bigger locations.  

The eyepieces are a bit of a problem as they either stick out as on the
AKAI(although it can be removed), or can slip off and get lost as
occurred to a Sony user in our group.  He had to resort to shooting over
the top as we could not find a spare during our travels through
Switzerland and Austria.  Finding a service centre while you are
travelling, let alone backpacking, is impossible and the retailers
wouldn't sell him one off their camera stock.

You might also be interested in one of the waterproof cases or
underwater? models which are around.  Check the magazines and stores.

Hope this helps.

Andy
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: leejun@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (Jun H Lee)
Subject: Q's on LD player
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:16:19 GMT

Hi, Netters:

I'd like to know if the LaserDisk Player which can be used
as CD player, Karaorche, and of course LD player is
available. If so, also price range and any recommendation
will be appreciated.

Thanks very much.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: u0f98@seq1.cc.keele.ac.uk (The Dominator)
Subject: Re: Terminator and T2 on VHS
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 17:10:47 WET
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From vn Sat Nov  7 17:09:01 1992
Subject: Re: Terminator and T2 on VHS
>   There's a new set of THE TERMINATOR and T2 on VHS packaged together
> with a supplements tape. The box has a hologram of the endoskeloton
> on it. The supplements have interviews with Cameron never before seen
> and the trailer for T1 and both trailers for T2. If this interests you
> (I'm waiting for LD), make sure you get the set with T1 stickered as
> LETTERBOX. This is a brand new, Cameron personally supervised transfer.
> Some of the sets are pan and scan, and the T1 transfer is the same old
> crummy one on the pan and scan. All T2 transfers are Cameron's. This 
> upset them greatly that the crummy transfer was used, but it was too
> late to do anything. So keep your eye out for the letterbox version.
> T1 was a 1.85:1 flat anyway, so even those of you who don't care for
> letterboxing shouldn't find it too offensive.
> 
> Jim Millick
> Video Reviewer
> The Perfect Vision
> 052327ZNOV92

Looks like you've done much better than us in Britain. All we got here
was a tin box that looks like a baking tray with normal P&S tapes of T1
and T2, The Making of T2 which has been on TV anyway and a special
effects booklet. And the T2 tape is the cut up 15-cert version anyway.
	Dominator

Newsgroups: rec.video
From: wave@waits.media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: perfect vision->when?
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 21:36:52 GMT

"james kewageshig" <james.kewageshig@canrem.com> writes
> Hi All,
> Does anyone know when the next issue of 'The Perfect Vision'
> is due out??
> 

The latest issue has a film-noirish guy with a TV for a head.  I just got it in  
the mail last week.  Sorry I'm not sure what number it is...


--

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Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: INFO ABOUT 27XBR95S
From: rkim@opus.uucp (Richard H.S. Kim)
Date: 4 Nov 92 20:16:43 PST
Reply-To: rkim@opus.calstatela.edu
Distribution: ca
Organization: California State Univ. Los Angeles (Computer Sci.)

In article <pvh-041192010832@kip2-15.apple.com> pvh@apple.com (Pete Helme)
writes:

| I think the list for the 32" 95S is $2400 and $1900 or $2000 for the 90S.

That sounds about right.  Ken Crane's was showing off a KV-32XBR95S
"retail $2700, now $2399".  What jerks.  I was able to get a 27" EXR for
LESS than what they were selling their 27" TS stuff for.

Even Sony's regular XBRs aren't discounted (the ones with the IR goodies).

| ...<stuff about companies not allowing discounting>...

Just like the auto manufacturers creating more expensive cars instead of
making more affordable ones.  Same logic.  That has been their response
due to the recession (from what I've read in the papers).

| name: Pete Helme
| mail: pvh@apple.com

For what it's worth, the differences between the EXR (550 H-lines),
XBR (550/650 H-lines), and XBR^2 (800? H-lines) were very hard to see.
If you can't see a difference, go with the cheapest.

Rich K.
email/inet>  rkim@opus.calstatela.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: leejun@sumac.ecn.purdue.edu (Jun H Lee)
Subject: Surround System Question - One
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:11:53 GMT

Hi, Netters:

I'd like to know what the difference between Dolby
Surround System offered by SONY XBR2 and Dolby Prologic
Surround System.

Thanks very much.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: lee@physics.ucla.edu (Matthew W. Lee,Kinsey 174,x51426,)
Subject: Philips laserdisc players
Reply-To: lee@physics.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Department of Physics
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 22:39:36 GMT

What are your thoughts on Philips players? This is the only player to my knowledge that has a coaxial digital output which is better than toslink when feeding to an outboard DAC. 

In particular, how does the video compare to other players under the $1000 price level? I was
considering the Philips CLD 400 which goes for $599 I believe. Also, any good mail order sources?

Much thanks,
Matt
lee@uclaph.physics.ucla.edu
From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Less Radiation from Rear Projection TV than tube?
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:21:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: fc.Bx9436.CuH
Reply-To: rjn@FC.HP.COM
Distribution: na
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

kelvin.ho (kho@cbnewsl.cb.att.com) wrote:

> Is it true that a rear projection TV has less radiation?

Presumably because the rear-projector CRT tubes point UP, whereas in a
direct-view they the single CRT points at you.  Any X-rays from the CRTs in
a rear-projector probably are not reflected off the internal mirrors toward
the screen, but keep going into ceiling.

Regards,                                              Hewlett-Packard
Bob Niland      Internet: rjn@FC.HP.COM               3404 East Harmony Road
                CompuServe:  71044,2124               Ft Collins CO 80525-9599

This article represents only the opinion[s] of its author, and is not an
official or unofficial position of, or statement by, the Hewlett-Packard
Company.  The text is provided for informational purposes only.  It is
supplied without warranty of any kind.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Subject: Re: LD-101: A Pornographic Standard
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:35:19 GMT
Reply-To: rjn@FC.HP.COM
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

Anshu Prasad (stud1b53@bnr.ca) wrote:

> A couple of weeks ago I ordered the laser disc "LD-101:  A Video Standard"
> to use for testing LD players and tvs.  I was told that it would arrive
> early last week.  Last night I found out it is currently being held
> indefinitely by Canada Customs and is being classified as pornographic
> material, thus illegal for use in Canada.  Canada Customs' position is
> that its a "movie" but not a comedy, drama, horror or action movie.
> Therefore, it is pornography.

Shades of Voyager Co. and US Customs on "Dr. Strangelove".

Do they also confiscate Pioneer GGV-141, the disc required by all authorized
Pioneer service shops?  It is also a technical test disc*.

Regards,                                              Hewlett-Packard
Bob Niland      Internet: rjn@FC.HP.COM               3404 East Harmony Road
                CompuServe:  71044,2124               Ft Collins CO 80525-9599

GGV-141 is $121 and requires test equipment, in case you were wondering.
And no, I don't have a copy.
From: chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Chris Christensen)
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject: Re: Video Signal Help
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:06:28 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In article <1992Oct28.164216.501@cho006.cho.ge.com> 
sant_m@cho006.cho.ge.com writes:

>OK, let me ask this a bit differently.

>Is there some way to tell if the composite video signal coming out of
>a standard VCR is video black or not ?

YES!

>That is, is there or can a gizmo be built (cheap) that would plug in the
>output of a VCR and give a on/off indication if the composite output
>is black vs a picture ?

A $75 monochrome TV set will do that for you.  That is if the VCR has
an RF output.
-- 
Chris Christensen                  The opinions I express are my own,
chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com            and sometimes they are wrong!
916-478-3419 FAX 916-478-3887      After all, I *AM* only human.
From: hjanssen@amiganet.chi.il.us (Hank Janssen)
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject: CANON A1 Digital With Loads Of Extra's For Sale.
Date: 10 Nov 92 02:09:55 GMT
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems


   

FOR SALE:

CANON A1 Digital:
Includes,
              
        +/- 6 months old.
        All Cables/manuals included.
        International Charger.
        Remote Control.
        60 Minutes Battery Pack.
        90 Minutes Battery Pack.
        6  Sony HI8-20 Min tapes.
        United soft travel case.
        Bogen 3001, Professional Tripod. (Heavy Duty)
        3 Filter Set. (Ultra violet, Plus 2 more)

Reason for selling is very simple, I have used the camera over the
last 6 months a total of 1 1/2 hours. And having it just sit around
not using it is kinda expensive.

I have no complaints about the camera at all. The camera has always 
performed flawlessly, it is a very impressive camera indeed.

I like to get around 1100,- for it (You pay shipping). (All new would set 
you back for about 1600,- or so.)

Contact me if you are interested.

Thanx,

Hank Janssen.
708-620-7334.

------------------------------------------------------------------
Hank Janssen.                           IT IS BETTER TO BURN OUT
                                           THAN TO FADE AWAY.
EMAIL:  hjanssen@amiganet.chi.il.us
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From: set@vulcan.ksu.ksu.edu (Toaster Man)
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject: Recommendations on a A/B rolling system for the Toaster
Date: 10 Nov 92 05:35:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: vulcan.1dortiINNonf
Distribution: world
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: vulcan.ksu.ksu.edu

I would like some info on a good a/b rolling system to use with my toaster..
I was looking info the panasonic AG1950 is that any good?  Please keep in mind
that I have limited cash flow :)  any suggestions please email me

thanks


Steve
ViSioNary Graphics
From: hugh@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca (Hugh D. Gamble)
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject: Computer controlled, high speed, universal VTRs?
Summary: Any recommendations?
Keywords: ?
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:14:36 GMT
Organization: NTT Systems, Inc., Toronto, Canada

Ideally what I want is a computer controllable VTR with fast random
access (fast forward and rewind) and universal PAL/NTSC 120V@60Hz
220V@50Hz capability. I'm not expecting to get all of those built in,
if I can hack the rest with extra boxes, I'll be happy.

My first choice at the moment is the Sony V-Deck. I don't know if a
european version is available, and I don't know the fast forwarding
speed, but I like Hi8 and the V-Deck's VISCA RS232 interface.

I'm also considering the Panasonic AG-5700 VHS deck with RS232
interface. I don't know much about it yet, but I'm hoping it's better
than the NEC PC-VCR was when it came out.

If you have any good or bad things to say about these, or like some
other VTR, please drop me some email. I'm also interested in
information about boxes to tack on to add PAL & 220V to a North
American model, or vice versa, or even a box to tack on some other
high speed universal VTR to add the computer interface (it must be
bidirectional). 

If there's any interest I'll post a summary of all the detailed and
accurate email I recieve. 


-- 
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# "automata da vida, honey" - CA Butterfly                                    #
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: "tony camara" <tony.camara@canrem.com>
Subject: our wedding
Reply-To: "tony camara" <tony.camara@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 5 Nov 92 01:51:21 EST

Im looking for a title called our wedding . ANyone ever heard of it ?
I'm looking for somthing with specific themes
ex:weddings,christmas,parties,baptizms etc . Im running an amiga 1000
with 1.5 megs. Any help would be great thank''s .
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: senseman@ricky.brainlab.utsa.edu (David M. Senseman)
Subject: Re: Looking for LONG life batteries.
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Distribution: rec.video,rec.video.production
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 00:43:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.221341.4107@coe.montana.edu> graham@cs.montana.edu (Jonathan Graham) writes:
>
>	I was wondering if anyone knows of any super-extended life
>batteries for filming in the backcountry?  I haven't chosen a
>camera yet, mainly because I want one that has extended life batteries.
>Extended life batteries would be best, but if anyone knows of 
>a way to recharge batteries in the woods (something that doesn't 
>weigh a lot <5 lbs) let me know. 
>

If I was you, I would look into a solar-powered battery charger :-)
Unless, of course, your trip takes you to the Seattle area ;-)

-- 
David M. Senseman, Ph.D.     | A man who has never gone to school may steal 
(senseman@lonestar.utsa.edu) | from a freight car; but if he has a university
Division of Life Sciences    | education, he may steal the whole railroad.
UT San Antonio               |             Theodore Roosevelt (1858-1919)
From: barber@jazz.concert.net (Scott Barber)
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: Sunrize Amiga Audio Borad Opinions
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:24:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: rock.1992Nov10.202426.5921
Organization: MCNC Center for Communications -- CONCERT Network

In article <kosts.720204820@ursa> kosts@ursa.calvin.edu (Steven Koster) writes:
>
>I was asked to write up a summary of opinions on Sunrize's
>Series of Audio boards for the Amiga. They are audio digitizers and
>editors which slave to SMPTE Time Code, designed especially for
>video post-production.

I recently purchased one of these boards, and have had quite a good
time with it, so far, and have used it to provide some audio
augmentation effects in a production just passed.  In particular, I
used the ability to do add delay and modulation effects to incoming
audio in real time.  By adjusting the delay interval, volume, 
modulation boundary windows, sampling rate, and other parms, a huge 
variety of delay effects are available.

Not having mucked with sound effects boxes much, I have gotten quite
a kick out of this thing.

>For another review, check out this month's Video Systems (or is it
>AV Video? Videography?). 

Videography.  It was after reading this review that I decided to buy
mine (12 bit version).

Scott

Scott Barber		  "I voted for the crazy, bozo, ozone men."
barber@jazz.concert.net		--- Tuesday, November Third  ---
MCNC, RTP, NC, BVD		--- Many Voted, Bush Retired ---
					(Anagramatized!!)
From: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject: Are you a Toshiba TSC-100 pro-hi8 cam user?
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:34:38 GMT
Reply-To: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Annapolis, MD

I am interested in hearing user comments on the subject por 3-chip hi8
camcorder.  Please email your responses.  I will, as always, post a
summary.  Many thanks in advance.


   /|/| /||)|/  /~ /\| |\|)[~|)/~   |   Everyone's entitled to MY opinion.
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========Imagination is more important than knowledge. - Albert Einstein=======
From: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject: Re: Looking for LONG life batteries.
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:14:44 GMT
Reply-To: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Annapolis, MD

In rec.video.production, senseman@ricky.brainlab.utsa.edu (David M. Senseman) writes:
>In article <1992Nov7.221341.4107@coe.montana.edu> graham@cs.montana.edu (Jonath
>an Graham) writes:
>>       I was wondering if anyone knows of any super-extended life
>>batteries for filming in the backcountry? 
>>Extended life batteries would be best, but if anyone knows of
>>a way to recharge batteries in the woods (something that doesn't
>>weigh a lot <5 lbs) let me know.
>If I was you, I would look into a solar-powered battery charger :-)

You should contact NRG Electromotive (located in Oregon; 800 number
available ).  They make a line of high performance nicad batteries
PLUS a portable solar charger.  It is possible the charger will work
with the popular camcorder batteries.  I have used NRG equipement to
power my lights and found it to be well engineered.


   /|/| /||)|/  /~ /\| |\|)[~|)/~   |   Everyone's entitled to MY opinion.
  / | |/ ||\|\  \_|\/|_|/|)[_|\\_|  |      goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil
========Imagination is more important than knowledge. - Albert Einstein=======