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From: tll6551@zeus.tamu.edu (Scholar and Fool)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Seattle bands  (no Soul Food)
Date: 24 Jan 1993 15:32 CST
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swortzel@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Timothy T Swortzel) writes...
>Also, if anyone has any info on other Seattle christian bands, mail me.

Just in case anyone else is interested, Fearless Donkey recordings is out
of Seattle, and released a compilation CD of underground Christian bands in
the Seattle (and surrounding) area. It is called _Songs from the Rain Factory_
and should be available at True Tunes, Etc. Last I heard, they were planning
on doing another compilation CD and also releasing albums of the bands Don't
Know and Blenderhead. 


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From: warrenjr@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU (John R. Warren)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: New Releases:  Hey Toth!
Date: 28 Jan 1993 19:52:36 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
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In article <1993Jan28.143335.26704@cbnews.cb.att.com>, ajw@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.j.whitman) writes:
>In article <MDTANX.93Jan27161906@poptart.cs.umd.edu> mdtanx@poptart.cs.umd.edu (Michael D. Tan) writes:
>>
>>New CD's of interest:
>
>(lots of interesting new and long-out-of-print albums deleted except for:)
>
>>T-Bone _Redeemed_
>
>What's this?  I assume we're talking about T-Bone Burnett here, right?

Actually, no we're not.  This T-Bone is a RAP artist.  (Is this an oxymoron?)
Despite the similarity, I can't believe anyone would be confused.  After
all, we all know that Mr. Burnett no longer hyphenates his "T Bone." :->

>
>Andy Whitman
>AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus, Ohio
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>ajw@cblpn.att.com
>
>"Got mashed potatoes, ain't got no T-Bone."
>  -- Neil Young, "T-Bone"

John Warren
"Love is a rose, but you better not pick it"
   --Neil Young "Love Is A Rose"
From: william.mercer@canrem.com (william mercer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: long's music
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:19:12 GMT
Reply-To: "william mercer" <william.mercer@canrem.com>
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Organization: Canada Remote Systems

Could someone please post Long's Music's address and phone number.  It'd
be much appreciated!
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From: mdtanx@poptart.cs.umd.edu (Michael D. Tan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: New Releases:  Hey Toth!
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:19:06 GMT
Distribution: rec.music.christian
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742



New CD's of interest:

Barnabas  _Approaching Light Speed/Feel the Fire_
Daniel Amos _Motor Cycle_
Daniel Band _Best_
ideola (Mark Heard) _tribal Opera_
Mike Knott (LSU) _Liquid_
Larry Norman _Only Visiting this Planet_
Charlie Peacock _Lie Down in the grass_  (his best, IMO)
Solo Flight Series _piano_
Terry Taylor _Briefing for the Ascent_
Terry Taylor _Knowledge and Innocence_
T-Bone _Redeemed_
Toth Band _2 Live, two Hive_

These and more from Long's Christian Music (407) 649-1914
or True Tunes.
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From: Paul.Laurie@anat.utas.edu.au (Paul Laurie)
Subject: Re: Trying to find a recording of this song...
Organization: University of Tasmania
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:48:12 GMT

In article <1jp27tINNl2q@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>, Michael Roman <mrr1@cornell.edu> writes:
> 
> I've trying to find a recording of the song with the following fragment:
> 
> By the waters, the waters of Babylon,
> We laid down and wept, and wept for thee, Zion.
> We remember, we remember, we remember thee, Zion.
> 
> I heard it in embedded in another song by Manfred Mann and the Earth Band.
> 
> Mike Roman
> mrr1@cornell.edu
> 
Boney M was the group that popularised this song( lyrics slightly different). Must be the first 
Scripture song to hit the top 40. It appears on their album "Reunion 89", which means it appears 
on an earlier album as well. Boney M's version was taken pretty well verbatim from Psalms 134
and Psalms 16 (Ithink). As an interesting aside, a local TV station ran a documentary recently on 
prostitution in Manilla. In a scene shot in a "pick up" bar,  "By the Rivers of Babylon" was being 
played (v loud) by the house DJ. Was anyone listening....

PaulL
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From: esquire@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Scott C. Kramer)
Subject: Re: Re: Stryper
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:11:40 GMT

In article <8@narnia.UUCP> SysOp@narnia.UUCP (Jim Vestal) writes:
>
>> was a year and a half ago.  Anybody got some more recent news?
>> 
>>               czos9 in Quincy, MA:  An OS9 Coco 3 UUCP Site
>Concerning Stryper:  the latest that I heard Michael Sweet (I think it was
>him) had left the band and they were looking for another singer.  
>
>Oh my board, Narnia BBS is also a CoCo 3 UUCP site, running StG BBS.
>
>Jim
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>Fido: Jim Vestal (on OS9 & CoCo echoes) - StG: sysop@Narnia or jevestal@zog

 How can I activate that?? the BBS???????  ]

Scott
From: SysOp@narnia.UUCP (Jim Vestal)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Grand Funk...Mark Farner...Christian!
Date: 24 Jan 93 09:27:42
Distribution: world
Organization: Narnia BBS


> Well, I guess its not rumor after all.... I saw Mark Farner's album
> Closer To Home inthe local Christian Book store for 6.98... I grabbed
> a copy to check it out.... Not bad.  He does some pretty nice tunes...
> sounds like old Farner...but of course the lyrics are pretty powerful...
> Phil Keaggy does a nice lead for him in his song "Airborne Ranger"...
> 
> In case you don't know who Farner is... Mark Farner was the lead 
> guitarist for Grand Funk way back in the early 70s.... From 1970
> alone, they sold 10 million records... They were pretty hot...
> Anyways...the style is pretty classy...especially for all you older
> types. :)
> 
>                                                 JCHO@nmsu.edu
The new album that you just picked up (which is the only one of his that I
have yet to buy) is his 4th CD!  I have his other three and they are good.

I never was into Grand Funk, didn't even know about the band until I got
Mark's first solo CD.  All of the three albums are Christian and are still in
print.

Jim
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From: burtp@aix.rpi.edu (Philip Nason Burt)
Subject: Re: Dancing with commitment & dating & sex
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:00:47 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.203808.25286@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu> conditt@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Paul Conditt) writes:
>
all kinds of SEX & SELF CONTROL & MORE COMPLEX THAN THAT stuff deleted

>Obr.m.c. - Are there any songs out that deal with this kind of stuff?
>
Actualy, I think that some of Fluffy's songs are about this stuff.  Of
course I'm just kidding - the works are incoherent anyways!

For songs about love and, to some degree, other issues, check out the
album "Romeo Unchained" by Tonio K.  You should be able to find it in
any Christian Bookstore cutout bin for 50 cents.  For some reason they
like to give away one of the most increadible recordings ever made.
His songs don't offer any "simple solutions," but they offer a lot of
hope for the existance of passion in a Christian's lifestyle.

You Belong With Me

Two o'clock
The moon is down
We say goodnight
You're headed for bed across town
We haven't even known each other that long
But it doesn't even matter
When you leave it feels all wrong

You Belong with me
Darlin' we belong together
And everytime you leave
It's obvious we're still connected
You live in your world 
And I live in mine
But the collision of worlds is just a matter of time
You bellong with me

Now I can tell 
You're so afraid
You've been lied to and taken for granted
And treated like some kind of slave
I'm not after your freedom, I'm after your heart
And I know it's gonna happen 
And I knew it right from the start

(chorus)

What happens to people in love is some kind of mystery
But what passes for love on the street these days is a joke
So when people like us finally stumble into each other
We've got to hold on tight and never let go

(chorus)

(end of song)

I don't know if it did finaly "happen" for this guy, but this is a
prime example of what could be called "courting".

>
>
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From: pearsodc@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU (if God's your father then call home!)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Dancing with commitment
Date: 23 Jan 1993 21:33:27 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
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Philip Nason Burt writes:
>After 1990, Steve Taylor formed a group Chagall Guevera and released a
>recording by the same name.  This was released by MCA and was severely
>underpromoted and distributed.  This happened even after the album
>received a rave review by Rolling Stone magazine.  CG protested and
>even played a rebelious gig on the sidewalk outside MCA's London
>office.  They are now breaking ties with MCA.  Future plans...
>unknown.

what?!?!?!?!?  i never knew CG got reviewed by rolling stone!  (or any other
secular mag, either!)  phil, do you happen to have a copy of that review?  or
anybody, for that matter?  like to know what the rest of the world thinks of
these boys...

and did chagall ask out of their contract with mca, or other way around?  they
have been writing songs...i heard they played at the mark heard benefit a few
weeks back...but steve taylor has been doing other stuff...

the latest steve taylor album is under the guise of the newsboys, who gladly
let steve do a big load of the work on their new album, "not ashamed"...i think
steve should be made an honorary newsboys member, myself...they work really
well together...steve's sarcasm really balances out peter furler's silliness...

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From: caw@gtech.com (Christopher A. White)
Subject: Re: Dancing with commitment & dating & sex
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:23:16 GMT

[lots of good stuff deleted]

On a historical note, the church actually has a much more interesting,
and difficult, position to work from now. Ancient peoples married very 
close to the age of puberty (indeed, all the way up through more modern
history this is true). Increased life span and delayed marriage have 
made the issue of a "sexual outlet" much more pronounced. 

Secondly, the concept of a regular sex life is an amazingly new subject.
It corresponds rather directly with the development of hygine. Even with
todays modern hygine standards, infections (not STD's in this case) and
other problems are still plague us. For the people of antiquity, sex
was often painful and child-bearing extreamly dangerous. 

Looking both geographically and historically, it has been much harder to
instill a sexual ethic among peoples who have either strong sanitary
traditions or more communal social structures. Though european cultures
often violated the sexual ethic (as our american culture does), it was
at least accepted on the surface (and violations were expected to be 
kept secret. Public outcry raged, albeit hypocritically, at the violator
if the transgression was ever discovered). 

It is important for the church to look at the historical context of 
these rules and extrapolate both actual intent (no, I'm not saying
that the intent wasn't what it appears to be; I just want to see 
something more than blind acceptance and anecdotal proof) and a 
firm set of logical justifications.

Hang on, I'll check the window for winged swine ....


Topher
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Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: zulkarna@fraser.sfu.ca (Connie Zulkarnain)
Subject: MWS in Tampa -- WHEN?
Keywords: MWS Tampa
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 02:17:44 GMT

Hey everyone. I tried to call the 1-900-7-SMITTY from here in Canada and I 
wasn't able to get through. Maybe it's 'cos I'm in Canada..

I need to know when Smitty is playing in the Tampa, Fla area. (Tampa, St.Petersburg, Lakeland..) If you know, please reply. Thanks a lot.

-Connie
internet: zulkarna@sfu.ca
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From: warrenjr@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU (John R. Warren)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Larry Norman stuff
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:12:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: master.1k3nu2INNapg
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In article <C1GsH5.H17@austin.ibm.com>, bmoore@sunfish.austin.ibm.com (Bryan Moore) writes:
>>
>Rock Revival vol. 1 - various artists
>Rock Revival vol. 2 - various artists
>(Has anyone heard any of these rock revival CDs? How are they?)
>
I have both CDs and am not terribly impressed by them.  If you listened to a
lot of Christian music in the 70s there's probably some stuff here you'd really
like.  Probably the best thing about them is the overall innocence of the
songs (no calculated radio hits here).  The recording quality in general is
pretty bad.

On the positive side, each disc features 18-20 songs, almost all of which
are not available anywhere else.  The highlights for me are probably the 
two Stonehill tracks ("Norman's Kitchen" and "I Love You"), the Love Song
track ("Little Country Church"), the Norman tracks ("Sweet Sweet Song of
Salvation," "Forget Your Hexagram" "Shot Down") and the Barry McGuire
track ("Eve of Destruction").

To someone who didn't start listening to CCM until the mid-80s, there aren't
many big names here.  However, if you were really into this stuff in the 70s,
this might be just your cup of tea.

John Warren
"Does it do things any good to tell you that I'm standin' here because I love
you?"--Daniel Amos


>-Bryan
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From: warrenjr@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU (John R. Warren)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: 77's reissues?  YES!
Date: 21 Jan 1993 16:10:37 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Reply-To: warrenjr@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
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In article <1993Jan20.175545.28174@tse.uucp>, mattias@tse.uucp (Mattias Hembruch x0830) writes:
>In article <80567@hydra.gatech.EDU> vapspwi@prism.gatech.EDU (Jerry B. Ray, Jr.) writes:>
>
>> Anyone know anything about DA releasing Vox
>>Humana on CD (ie have they done it?).

Yes, Vox Humana is available on CD.  The packaging is really lousy, though,
no liner notes, lyrics, etc.  Still, the music is there.


>>Also, on my Randy Stonehill "Until we have Wings" cover, it says that 
>>they have re-released Equator on CD.. I talked to my 'local CCM dealer'
>>and they couldn't find it in their books.. Anyone know if this was just
>>'wishful thinking' or did it really make it?? I'd love to get a hold of it..
>
>>Mattias
>-- 
>>Mattias Hembruch

I saw Randy in concert in Champaign-Urbana last fall and he said that Word
was finally going to release four of his old albums on CD in 1993.  They
plan to put out 2 CDs, each containing two albums:

--Between the Glory and the Flame/Equator
--Celebrate This Heartbeat/Love Beyond Reason

Yes, Word originally said in "Until We Have Wings" that the albums would be
out at the same time as "Wings."  Randy was pretty ticked that they had said
that in the album and then gone back on their word (no pun intended--:>).
He said that Word had gotten so many letters about it that they realized 
they could make some money by rereleasing the albums.  SO, sometime this 
year they should be out.

John Warren
warrenjr@hydra.rose-hulman.edu
"one, two...  one, two, three..."--Stonehill "Good News"

From: rhm@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Miller)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:59:03 GMT
Subject: Re: TANGENT: RE: Christian Dancing & Clubs
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian

In rec.music.christian, mcr@meaddata.com (Mary Ries) writes:

> Re: Issue 2 in Colorado...

I know yoy said "TANGENT" and all, but could  we please, please, PLEASE
skip this one? Every newsgroup I subscribe to seems to be infected with
this one. I've heard *all* the argunents on *both* sides *miltiple*
times...

And I don't like to use "kill" files because the best posts often come from 
the oddest places..

Bob (yes, I'm in Colorado and no, I'm not gonna say how I voted) Miller 
rhm@hpfirhm.fc.hp.com
From: mcr@meaddata.com (Mary Ries)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: TANGENT: RE: Christian Dancing & Clubs
Date: 23 Jan 1993 00:22:28 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
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In article <m0nFTbB-0000ZaC@juts.ccc.amdahl.com>, rich.bellacera@amail.amdahl.com writes:
|> 
|> A friend of mine & I once opened a coffee room for the purposes of fellowship
|> and came under fire by a minister who complained that it wasn't under the
|> authority of any pastorate.  Eventually it was forced closed.  I really don't
|> understand this enormous need to control that so many pastors and Church
|> denominations have.  I believe in witnessing, but not in forcing others to
|> conform to my faith (despite thier unbelief internally) such as the Colorado
|> Amendment 2 and it ilk. Actually my faith doesn't mandate anti-gay beliefs,
|> these are largely man-made traditions anyhow.  As Christians, why can't we
|> leave people alone?  Especially when what they do has absolutely nothing to
|> do with our daily lives?  And as Christians why can't we foster happy,
|> healthy environments where young people can meet and date (instead of
|> worrying about whether or not we can control them when we aren't looking)?

Re: Issue 2 in Colorado...

I don't have any doubt that the bible indicates practicing
homosexuality is immoral.  Yet, I am concerned about the goals of "The
Christian Coalition", who I heard was involved with issue 2,
especially since they are acting in the name of Jesus Christ.

I want to be careful not to pre-judge the motives of the organization,
but rather judge its actions... unless their motives are documented in
some kind of statement of purpose.

I heard a broadcast about the activities of "The Christian Coalition"
in Colorado on christian radio. From what I understand, when they say
they want to prevent "special treatment", they are ultimately trying
to avoid a situation where you can not *fire* a person who
demonstrates a sexual orientation that is in conflict with the beliefs
of a private organization (for example, a a private christian
elementary school should be able to fire a gay employee who actively
promotes homosexuality as an acceptable alternative lifestyle to the
children of the school).

I would support a law that has this goal... although I think if a gay
person agrees _not_ to promote beliefs conflicting with a private
organization's policies, they should not be discriminated against for
hire.  It could get tricky, but I think it could work.

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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Re: X-Sinner?
Organization: Carleton University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 00:34:21 GMT

In <1993Jan23.001724.17179@leland.Stanford.EDU> kellyj@leland.Stanford.EDU (Kelly Johnson) writes:

>Does anybody out there know what's happening with X-Sinner these days?
>Anybody heard of them?  A old friend of mine is in the band and
>I wouldn't mind tracking them down.  I know its been a year or two
>since their last album.

Try them care of Pakaderm records....I think that was the last record
company they recorded with.

They've been through some personnel changes last I heard, changed lead
singers at least once or twice, and I think a guitarist quit too.

Michael
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