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From: edd@gvlf2.gvl.unisys.com (Ed Dougherty)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Nassau area, Handicapped diving
Summary: 'Bahama Divers' are great!
Keywords: Bahama Divers, Handicapped, Nassau, Paradise Island
Date: 17 Apr 92 15:37:14 GMT
Organization: Unisys Defense Systems, Great Valley Labs, Paoli, Pa

Came back late last night from Nassau/Paradise Island.  I had received
a recommendation for 'Bahama Divers' and it was right on, a great outfit.

Monday went to a reef of Atol Island (sp?), I approx. vis. at 100 feet, depth
was shallow (<25'), slight current (1+ knt), reef was in good shape, 
lots of criters.  A slight current doesn't sound like much but to me (no
flippers) it's a pain to work against.

Tuesday, gale force winds, stayed at the hotel and veged out in the hot tub.

Wednesday, more wind but the shop said they had a protected spot where
the vis was OK so we went; they were right, vis was probably in the 50
foot range, this was at the land sea park on Atol Island (a different spot).
prety much the same as the first day (good).

Thursday, left for home.

I talked to a diver I met (out of the same shop, Anchor Line in Media, PA)
in the coffee shop who had been there about a week, he said Bahama Divers
had taken him to a lot of good spots, (wrecks, the Blue Hole).
=====================
Bahama Divers for handicapped divers, they were great at getting me in and
out of the water, in-and-out of the boat, in general looking after me.
I have no hesitation in recommending them.  I haven't heard of any place
other than Bonaire recommended for handicapped divers, I haven't been there
yet and hear it is great, I doubt the Bahamas compare with Divi Flamingo
but it's a place you may consider.  I personally had trouble finding
anything like a real wheelchair accessable room but I survived for 5 days.
======================
Places to eat

Avoid the Holliday Inn (Pirates Cove) for food.
Go to:
Ivory Coast near Bahamas Divers on the water front east end of town, great.
Captain Nemo's near the center of town, great.
Both had very good food, service and prices were reasonable.

Ed Dougherty
From: grs01168@stat.appstate.edu
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Diving inland North Car. Lk James????   
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:37:51 EDT
Organization: Appalachian State University

Anyone know of any diving in western North Carolina?  My husband and I just got
certified and are looking for some places not to far away to keep our skills up
In particular anyone ever dive in Lake James (Read some info about it in a 
book that was about 15 years old and don't know if that info is still accurate)
I know that this is sort of specific and sort of a long shot that some one may
have some info but I thought I'd try anyway.
Thanks
Connie
grs01168@stat.appstate.edu
From: root@maspar.ch (Bruno Pape)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: C-card #'s in .sig's
Date: 6 Apr 92 10:53:15 GMT
Reply-To: root@maspar.ch (Bruno Pape)
Organization: MasPar Distributor AG, Zurich, Switzerland

In article <1992Apr04.015317.7592@herboid.uucp> adb@herboid.uucp (Anthony DeBoer) writes:
>
>It's a way of establishing your credentials for what you're saying
>without needing to explicitly say "I'm a Divemaster" or "I'm an
>Instructor".  Sometimes you need to know a bit about the certifying
>agency to unravel what the number refers to; a NAUI number with no
>letters, or with an "L" afterwards, is an Instructor, the "D" prefix

Really, you mean if I put "NAUI #746085" in my sig you might confuse
me with someone that really knows something?  No, not me.  :-)  Of
course my card says I have only "satisfactorily completed a NAUI
sanctioned scuba course of underwater education at the level named
above."  And SCUBA DIVER is above.  Anyway the date on it is '82,
maybe it predates said standards?

Greetings,

Bruno
From: klimbal@mayberry.Eng.Sun.COM (Philip Klimbal)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: ScubaPro Equipment Forsale
Keywords: ScubaPro, D300
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:02:31 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mayberry



For sale scuba equipment:

	ScubaPro SS5 BC, Medium, Standard Orange
	ScubaPro MR10 First Stage Regulator
	ScubaPro D300 Second Stage Regulator
	ScubaPro A.I.R. II Second Stage Regulator
	ScubaPro VIP console
	ScubaPro LS-1 Compass in Console
	Oceanic DataMax DepthGague/Bottom Timer in Console

All in excellent condition. All for only $850.00

For details email me <klimbal@eng.sun.com> or call (408)865-0693.
--
--
Phil Klimbal				"Let's take a ride,
klimbal@eng.sun.com			 along with the dogs tonight,
standard disclaimer			 in Suburbia."
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: vaughn@cs.washington.edu (Vaughn Iverson)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: Where to get De-Certified ;-)
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:20:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: beaver.1992Apr14.212053.29658
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Apr14.135223.3956@bb1t.monsanto.com> tjfeue@bb1t.monsanto.com writes:
>I was reading the DAN mag the other night and a statistic horrified me.
>Something like (I don't remember exactly) 10% of diving fatalities last
>year were *uncertified* divers.  That means that 90% *WERE* certified.
>Where do I go to get de-certified for my own safety?
>
>Save lives, ban the C-card!             ;-)
>
>  TED FEUERBACH   Scientific Systems Consultant  Trilogy Consulting, Inc. 

Hmmm...  Lessee here.  Do some math...

If 10% of diving fatalities are uncertified divers, but only 1% of dives 
are made by uncertified divers (a conservative figure, I think), then 
...grunt through some algebra...:

uncertified divers are 11 times more likely to have an accident (on a per
dive basis) than are certified divers.

I think I'll stay in the ranks of the certified based on these stats... ;-)

V

-- 
 Vaughn Iverson            |  If the State of Washington thought my opinion 
 vaughn@cs.washington.edu  |  was worth anything, they'd try to tax it.
 --------------------------+-------------------------------------------------
 Univ. of Washington, Dept. of Computer Science, FR-35  Seattle, WA 98195
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: phil@dynamed.dynamedia.COM (Phil Menzies)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: Orca Delphi reader
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 11:53:07 PST
Organization: DynaMedia
Reply-To: phil@dynamedia.COM
Distribution: usa
X-Mailer: uAccess LITE - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4

About support for Orca Delphis:

In article <1992Apr6.123008.15622@stsci.edu> (rec.scuba), Barsh@stsci.edu (John Barshinger) writes:
> There was some talk awhile back about a Delphi reader. I believe there
> was mention of a kit or definition of how to build a reader, and some
> software to make sense of the read data.
> I missed the actual definition of this hw/sw combination. Did anyone
> ever get this working? If so, where can I find it?
> Also, if anyone has info on a rumor of a Delphi upgrade, please let me
> know about it. I have three and they actually work but if they are not
> going to be supported by the vendor, maybe I should upgrade???
> jrbii
> Barsh@stsci.edu

I spoke to the folks at E.I.T. (who had been manufacturing the Marathon
dive computer for Orca, and who bought the Orca name & assets upon
Orca's demise) last week.  They have redesigned the Delphi to use
a single circuit board (thereby reducing the manufacturing cost) and
to solve the design bugs that resulted in excessive battery consumption.
They will be releasing this computer, which will be externally identical
to the Delphi, under the name "The Phoenix" in roughly June of '92.  It
is targeted to retail for about $650.  It will have a working depth limit
of 300 ft, so it will replace both the Delphi & Delphi Pro.

They will announce a plan for Orca Delphi owners who have problems with
their Delphis (which are inherrently not serviceable) to upgrade to the
Phoenix for about $240 (the exact price is not set yet.)  So, this gives
a future for those Delphi owners like myself who are concerned about
the possible demise of a unit.

As far as the Delphi Datareader goes, I asked about it and was told that
E.I.T. plans to re-address this in the fall of '92.  Orca shipped a number
of Datareaders to "A" dive stores (those selling over a certain quantity
of Delphis) and they are operational.  They had plans to try to reduce
the cost of manufacture to make the unit attractive for individuals to
purchase (I believe it sold for $250+).  E.I.T. is not yet certain 
whether it will be able to do this, but will at least address the 
manufacture and sale of units for dive stores.

The Datareader as currently implemented has a serial interface, but the
software that interprets the serial data stream only runs on PCs (not
Macs).  They appeared undecided as to whether they would make available
format information so that others could develop software to utilize the
data.  If anyone has more information on this subject I would be very
interested, as I am interested in using the data on a Mac.

E.I.T.'s phone number is (703) 478-0700.

Cheers,
Phil Menzies

-------------------------------------------
Phil Menzies  -  DynaMedia, Alameda CA
Internet:        phil@dynamedia.COM
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: leej@diver.asd.sgi.com (Lee Jones)
Subject: Shark Eradication
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:02:30 GMT

The April '92 Ocean Realm (p. 16) has a disturbing notice.  It says that 
the state of Hawai'i is going to spend $200,000 to get rid of (kill) tiger,
gray reef, and Galapagos sharks in near-shore waters.  This is being done
in response to the first fatal shark attack in Hawai'i in about 30 years.

Any of you that have seen any of the above animals know them to be 
exquisitely beautiful and truly awe inspiring.  

My understanding of the attack incident was that a woman (a Maui resident) got
into the water with snorkeling gear in an area where tiger sharks were 
feeding on a whale carcass.  With all due sympathy to the woman and her 
family, I think that wasn't very bright.  I *definitely* don't think it 
is a cause to start wiping out the population of larger sharks around 
Hawai'i.

Here's my request:

I know we have some Hawai'ian participants here.  Could one of you post
the addresses of people I could write to.  I believe it was the
"Coastal Marine Resources Commission" that decided to go kill the sharks.

Also, I'd be interested in Gov. Waihee's (sp?) address as well.  Thanks for
your help.

Regards, Lee Jones
From: rimbold@apollo.hp.com (Robert Rimbold)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Info for Bombay, India?
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:15:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: apollo.1992Apr14.201512.17566
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Apollo Division - Chelmsford, MA
Originator: rimbold@relaxed


I'll be in Bombay, India for a few months this year beginning in June. As
I understand it, Bombay is on a peninsula into the Arabian Sea. Is diving
allowed off the Bombay coast, and is it any good? One other person has
recently asked for info about India, but I didn't see any replies or
summaries. Another person did suggest that the Maldive Islands were close by,
and that the diving there may be spectacular. Is this also true? Thanks
for any info.

'Rob

rimbold@apollo.hp.com
From: colvin@oyster.smcm.edu (Tim Colvin)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: Mail Order
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:03:19 GMT
Reply-To: colvin@oyster.smcm.edu

In article <13APR199209350089@venus.lerc.nasa.gov>  
fssmith@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Greg Smith) writes:
> In article <930449@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com>, davew@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com (Dave  
Waller) writes...
> >fssmith@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Greg Smith) writes:
> >> 
> >> Dave perhaps the stores you frequent are better than most.  I have  
found

stuff deleted
> 
> Dave, I believe Berry's scuba sells air fills and performs regulator 
> maintenance and so do other mail order stores.  Do you have an interest
> in a dive shop?  You get price reductions that others on the net dont.
> 

	I think it would suck to have to mail my tank to Berry Scuba every  
time I wanted an Air Fill, even if it was a litle cheaper!

Tim Colvin
Colvin@oyster.smcm.edu
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: njs@scifi.uucp (Nicholas J. Simicich)
Subject: Re: No diving with Lyme. Dang it.
Organization: Nick Simicich, Peekskill, NY
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 03:29:10 GMT

In article <1992Apr2.195853.10767@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu>
daniel@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu writes:

>Thanks to those who responded to my earlier query about whether it's
>okay to Dive with or after having Lyme disease. I called DAN and
>talked to one of the physicians. He said that diving with any
>condition which causes acute joint inflammation is a no-no. No way to
>tell after a dive if the joint pain is due to Lyme or being bent.
>Also, having Lyme may predispose one to bubble formation and lead to
>serious troubles. Boy, as if Lyme wasn't bad enough, now I got
>decompression sickness! He said I'll have to wait until all my
>symptoms go away before I can dive safely. Bummer. Lyme symptoms can
>take years to resolve completely. :( Well, if I have to give up
>diving to get my brain back I'll gladly make the trade.

Dan you've made a good conservative decision.  I will point out that
there are a lot of arthritics who dive, myself amoung them.  There are
also quite a few complete paraplegics who dive, and they may well be
at worse risk for undetectable bends cases than you are.

It clearly ends up being an individual decision.




-- 
Nick Simicich - uunet!bywater!scifi!njs - njs@watson.ibm.com
SSI #AOWI 3958, HSA 318, NAUI #14065
Join the movement ---  turn 'to bush' into a verb.
From: e45evancio@skerth.usask.ca
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: RE: Dive computers
Date: 15 Apr 92 00:20:03 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan

Dana Johnston writes:

"I was trying to decide on the best type of dive computer to purchase........
suggestions ... comments ... appreciated ... free beer (oops, sorry about that)

This is a bit like asking "What is the best mask/fin/certification agency
to use?", or "What is the nature of God?"

Anyway, here are a few comments.  I dove in Cozumel this February with two
experienced guys who used the "Microbrain" computer, made by Dacor.  They
think it is a solid little unit and very dependable, but a bit on the
"conservative" side.  It tends to give you longer surface interval times than
you may actually need.  This may or may not be a bad thing; it depends on your
preferences.

The Aladin Pro, made by Beuchat, is another good model.  It seems to get
mentioned a lot as a top performer, loaded with all the bells and whistles
(beeping ascent rate alarm, beeping deco alarm, multiple dive memory, ...).
I had my eye on a used Aladin Pro, but the owner wanted $500 CDN for it
(too much for me!).  I have no idea what it costs brand new.  Maybe
your local dive store(s) can give you a hand.

Hope this helps a bit.  VIVE LE REQUIN!

Greg Evancio        o
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[_/\_] oo
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: e45evancio@skerth.usask.ca
Subject: info on prodive
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 22:22:37 GMT

     I'm looking for info on good scuba schools for IDC and other training.
ProDive sent me some glossy info pamphlets that look pretty good, but I'd
like to get opinions from people who know about or who have taken this course
from ProDive in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.  If you have any ideas or opinions on
this, shoot'em my way.

     Thanks in advance.

     Greg
From: craig@cattnts (Craig Campbell)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: Portable compressors.
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:18:43 GMT
Distribution: alt.bitserv.scuba-l
Organization: AT&T / NCR Canada Ltd., Toronto, Canada

In article <1992Apr08.195239.7022@CS.ORST.EDU> lamunyj@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (James Lamunyon) writes:
>
>    Here at OSU they are about to go to market with a small portable for
>boat owners.  It will require one person to operate it on the surface since
>it will be operated by muscle ;->.  

>       James LaMunyon

Wow, talk about trusting your dive buddy!!!! (Thanks, no...)


Anybody ever see the Sylyester/Tweety episode where Sylvester uses a Mark V
setup with a surface tender pumping by hand? :-)


-- 
Craig Campbell		|	These opinions are entirely the result of a 
Systems Engineer	|	small butterfly crashing into the far side
NCR Canada,		|	of the planet.  Chaos Rules.
an AT&T Company		|	I speak for no one, except, possibly, myself.
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: craig@cattnts (Craig Campbell)
Subject: Re: Tanks and GA aircraft
Organization: AT&T / NCR Canada Ltd., Toronto, Canada
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:14:07 GMT

In article <11277@mindlink.bc.ca> Charlie_Gibbs@mindlink.bc.ca (Charlie Gibbs) writes:
>In article <1992Apr6.120556.22605@axion.bt.co.uk>
>pyoung@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk (Peter Young) writes:

>Even if we were to fly out of the earth's atmosphere
>completely (side note: how do astronauts store their air?), the
>15-psi drop in ambient pressure would amount to only 0.5% of the
>tank's rated pressure, while the tank is normally rated for a 10%
>overfill and is tested to 50% above its rated pressure when it's
>hydroed.

Minor nit, but isn't a tank hydro'd at 5/3 's (66% above) of its
working pressure?

>Charlie_Gibbs@mindlink.bc.ca
>"I'm cursed with hair from HELL!"  -- Night Court


-- 
Craig Campbell		|	These opinions are entirely the result of a 
Systems Engineer	|	small butterfly crashing into the far side
NCR Canada,		|	of the planet.  Chaos Rules.
an AT&T Company		|	I speak for no one, except, possibly, myself.
From: 73467.2574@CompuServe.COM (Andy Schmidt)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Power Inflator Second Stages
Date: 15 Apr 92 02:40:49 GMT

On Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:05:15 GMT craig@cattnts (Craig Campbell)
writes in his Message-Id: <1992Apr14.140515.6921@cattnts>

CC> Your buddy has an OOA emergency.  You give him your primary and you breath
CC> from your BC inflator whip reg.  Now, you need to loose buoyancy, and for
CC> that you need to hold the BC mouth piece above you.

Not quite true.  If you use the Scubapro AIR/II with a Scubapro BC you'll 
pull the cord and open the BC dump valve on your shoulder.  While it doesn't
allow for fine dosage I'm using that convenient method very often during
an ascend and do the fine tuning through breathing control and body pasture.

I've gotten so used to that dump valve that I'm normally to lazy to lift
my arm over/behind my head...

Andy
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: uribe@jarthur.claremont.edu (Soprano)
Subject: Re: *****SCUBA DIVING IN BELIZE ******
Keywords: Belize, Blue Hole
Organization: Claremont Shelter for Maladjusted Singers
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 23:03:53 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.174822.20261@amd.com> nbranch@gemstone.amd.com (Nancy
Branch) writes:

>Subject:   DIVING IN BELIZE

>Is the Blue Hole really worth the travel time?  Live aboard is not an option.

My husband and I were in Belize in January, aboard the Belize Aggressor.  We
did the Blue Hole dive.  It really is a novelty dive -- worth doing once to
be able to say one has done it, but that's it.  Total length of the dive was
28 minutes, of which about 8 or 9 were spent at 135' looking at three *HUGE*
stalactites; the rest of the dive was spent on the descent, ascent, and
safety stops of 3 minutes at 20' and 6 minutes at 11'.  We did the dive
because we were there, and because I'd never been deeper than 105', but IMO
it isn't worth traveling more than 30 or 40 minutes for....

>Will I see any sharks either in the open water or caves?

We had two shark sightings (the same shark?) on a night dive.  I estimated
its length at about 5', and on the second sighting, it turned toward us and
started swimming up the beam of my dive light to a distance of ?40' before
turning off.  It was *beautiful*.

>Thanks in advance.

You're welcome.  Have a good trip!

>Nancy Branch                                    nbranch@gemstone.amd.com

					Lydia

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| Soprano (Lydia M. Uribe)                      uribe@jarthur.claremont.edu |
| Claremont, CA                                         uribe@HMCVAX.BITNET |
|           Cats, quilts and diving -- what more could anyone ask?          |
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Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: leej@sgi.com (Lee Jones)
Subject: Re: Scuba Lessons in Peekskill, NY
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 01:37:05 GMT

>
>state - name - association - phone number - city
>
>Organized trips:
>
>I think it's fair to make a posting if you, as an individual, are organizing
>a trip or group charter of a dive boat:
>

I like the above.  I've been waffling on what I thought about this whole
issue, but Stan seems to have a reasonable compromise.  My major concern
is to preserve high info content in rec.scuba, and to avoid "XXX agency
is better than YYY agency" and "My class is better than your class" kinds
of things.  I like *all* of you out there (including Dave and Nick) and 
I want to keep us all a happy, wet family.

Regards, Lee
From: root@maspar.ch (Bruno Pape)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: Scuba Lessons in Peekskill, NY
Date: 15 Apr 92 11:53:26 GMT
Reply-To: root@maspar.ch (Bruno Pape)
Organization: MasPar Distributor AG, Zurich, Switzerland

In article <930452@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com> davew@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com (Dave Waller) writes:
>
>At this point I will refrain from making such an appeal, and ask that
>rec.scuba readers post their thoughts on this.
>

Since Nick will not let me be an instructor I am against it.  :-)

No, really now, even if Nick would let me be an instructor I would
still be against it.  I think most of us can see who we might like
to take instruction from, or not, from the attitues and ideas they
convey in their postings.  If someone has interest in finding an
instructor they can easily post their request and requirements.

Regular advertisement postings and ad wars could get very boring
to those of us who are not actively looking for additional instruction.

Also it might get depressing to see how many hungry scuba instructors
there really are out there anyway.

Greetings,

Bruno
From: ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Peter A. Simon)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: U.S. Navy Diving Manual
Date: 17 Apr 92 15:34:17 GMT
Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Help!  I need a U.S. Navy Diving Manual to use as a reference for
designing an expert system to diagnose symptoms and recommend the
correct treatment procedure.  Equally helpful would be a copy of the
book containing nothing but diagnosis and treatment.  It used to be
published by an outfit called Hydrospace. Imitations would be gratefully
accepted.   Does anybody know what I'm talking about that could tell me
the current name and publisher--it was 5" x 8", looseleaf, water
resistant paper, cost a bundle?)
 
Does anybody have one or know where I could get a copy in Pittsburgh (or
mail order addresses, address of Compass Publications, Maritime Press,
etc.?).
 
Thanks a lot!
 
Gary Hooyman
 
reply to me, c/o this account  (ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu)
 
Newsgroups: rec.scuba