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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 07:57:07 EST
Reply-To:     Sharon L Palmateer <ASDSLP@ALBNYVM1.BITNET>
From:         Sharon L Palmateer <ASDSLP@ALBNYVM1.BITNET>
Organization: The University at Albany, S. U. N. Y.
Subject:      RR Retirement Board
Comments: To: roots-l@ndsuvm1.bitnet

Hi Rooters!

I just want to share some success with you...and the addresses that helped!

In October, I queried the net about information for the D&RGW RR.  David
Lowndes supplied the following address and encouragement.  With a few
sketchy details, I sent a letter hoping for anything.  I was assured that
I would get a response one way or the other.

Dave recommended, and I concur, that you should supply as many details as
possible, preferrably the person's first and last name, their SSN (if known),
the RR the person worked for and the dates of employment.  If you are
lucky, you may have a unique enough name, like I did, and that will be all
that is necessary.  Their database has over 11 million names!

Two days before Christmas I received a letter stating that my grandfather's
records had been found even though he did not work for the RR for the
required time to earn a pension.  They did forward a copy of his SSN
application and sent an address and PERSON to contact at the SS Administration.

I forward these addresses to you in hopes that they will help someone else.

Good Luck, All.

               USA Railroad Retirement Board
               ATTN: LeRoy Blommaert, PA/FOIA Officer
               844 Rush Street
               Chicago, Illinois  60611

               Ms. Ethel Burroughs
               FOIA Officer
               Social Security Administration, 4C5 Annex Building
               6401 Security Boulevard
               Baltimore, MD  21235
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 04:17:21 -0500
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From:         clarridge%umbsky.dnet@NS.UMB.EDU
Subject:      SCANNING PHOTOGRAPHS... HOW SHOULD I test
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I would like to do some comparative testing of the results from scanning
old photographs.  I need help from the net as to what makes sense.

[THIS IS A TOPIC THAT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED BEFORE AND GETS ADDRESSED EVERY YEAR
OR SO... SO ONE CAN LOOK BACK AT NET LOGS AND READ LOTS OF GOOD DISCUSSION ON
PRESERVATION OF PHOTOS WITHOUT REGENERATING LOTS OF NEW TRAFFIC]

However the issue for me right now is to see if I have a decent grasp of the
parameters before asking a niece with access to scanners of different varieties
to do a test for me.

Parameter one... It would seem that one thing I will want to do is give her
a large photo and a small one to test scanner resolution.

Parameter two... It would seem I need some way  of figuring out if there is
something about the software (as opposed to the scanner itself) that makes
one or the other scanner work better.

Parameter three... File size of the created image might be important. Storage
is one consideration... but probably more importantly the better scanners with
better resolution will probably be storing each photo as a larger file.

Parameter four...  Which graphics standard is the photo stored in and which
package would I wish to print it out with?  I am aware (only slightly) that
the graphics arena has several different standards and translations among
them generally lose stuff from the original file.

There I've shown my ignorance and as I read the list ... these really don't
seem to be parameters but just a list of things.  Can some of you help me
through this?  My sense is that many of you in the biological sciences are way
ahead of me in playing with images\graphics.  It has been my impression that
it is the optical part of the scanners that inevitably falls short of making
scanning a reasonable thing to do, but that the day will soon be here that
we can pull together our family albums electronically.
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From: kathleen@casbs.Stanford.EDU (Kathleen Much)
Subject: Re: Searching for LICKSKILLET, Robertson Co, Texas
Organization: Center for Advanced Study in the Behavioral Sciences
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:27:35 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.152809.11073@news.eng.convex.com> rcox@convex.UUCP (Robert Cox) writes:
>A brother of my great-grandfather named Fredrick Cox lists on his 
>military pension that he was born in Lickskillet, Robertson Co., Texas, 
>on November 10, 1844.  Anyone heard of this town?  I can't find it on 
>any Texas map, gazetteer, or list of ghost towns. 

Yes, I've heard of it.  It was pretty tiny, and all I remember of it
is the name.  It may not exist anymore.  See if you can find a 19th or
early 20th-c map of Texas in the geography section of your library.

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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:57:20 EDT
Reply-To:     Bob Oliphant <oliphant@BBN.COM>
From:         Bob Oliphant <oliphant@BBN.COM>
Subject:      Re: SILVERS in 1920 IN census
Comments: To: dcombe@EIS.CALSTATE.EDU, roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

David,
>
>Thanks, Nancy, for your suggestion.  I have extracted all SILVERS and
>SILVER from the 1920 census, and forgot to mention it.  Is there someone
>in Indianapolis who is familiar with local city/county records who has an
>idea of something else I could check?

I'm not from Indianapolis, but I have an idea of something to check. :-)

In looking for records for an Indiana ancestor in the Family History
Card Catalog (FHCC) on microfiche at my local LDS Family History Center,
I came across a microfilm of records from a WPA project of the 1930s
that was an every-name index to several county histories/atlases for
each of several Indiana counties.  The roll I looked at contained
several counties (Hamilton Co. is the only one I remember, but there
were several others).  For each county there was one name index and for
each name there was a reference to one or more county histories/atlases
and a page number.  There were on the order of 6-10 references for each
county.  These were primarily the late-1800s, early 1900s county
histories we're all familiar with.  I found several new references for
my ancestor that eventually led me back another generation to a Rev. War
veteran in Lehigh Co., PA.

In the FHCC, look under "Indiana," then the "County" of interest, then
"Biography Indexes."  The title of the work I looked at was "Hamilton
Co., Index of Names of Persons and Firms."  The particular roll
containing Hamilton Co. was Roll No. 1597773, Item 7.  Items 1-6 and 8-?
were other Indiana counties.

Hope this helps.  Good luck in your research.

Bob Oliphant
oliphant@bbn.com

**Researching OLIPHANT, DAVIDSON, STRANAGHAN, HORTON, MAY, MILLER**
****GEIST, ROHRBACH, ALLEN, PORTER, BEARDSLEY, CANTLEY, CROSLEY****
From: britton_j@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: BRITTON - IRELAND
Date: 27 Jan 1993 19:47:34 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Reply-To: britton_j@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
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Hello,
     Saw a news item from ITN NEWS (British), here in New Zealand, it was 
     about HUGH BRITTON, a Landlord at a pub. I'm interested
     to know if if anyone can assist in tracking down the Pub (Hotel).

     It would seem the Pub is on the border of Eire/N.Ireland.

     I'm tracing the BRITTON family - thanks for your assistance.

     Please E-mail me - BRITTON_J@KOSMOS.wcc.govt.nz

     John

     

       
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:19:00 CST
Reply-To:     Evelyn - Reserve <ECA3813@TAMRIGEL.BITNET>
From:         Evelyn - Reserve <ECA3813@TAMRIGEL.BITNET>
Subject:      Aldred Query

I am research the William Thomas Aldred ancestory.  He resided in Warren Co.,
GA.  Another spelling was Aldridge.  Evelyn Aldred (ECA3813@TAMRIGEL.BITNET)
From: winsser@nynexst.com (Johan Winsser)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Plowden or Long Isle
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:55:25 GMT
Distribution: soc.roots
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology

I am looking for any information related to Plowden or Long Isle or the
adventurers associated with it.

In 1632 Sir Edward [Edmund] Plowden and other English adventurers proposed
to settle a colony or plantation on Plowden or Long Isle. This isle was
reported to be located between 39 and 40 degrees north latitude, about 60
leagues northwards of James City [Virginia] without [outside] the Bay of
Chesapeake, and about six leagues from the Main[land] near De La Warre 
[Delaware] Bay.

Apparently this adventure was unsuccessful. Does anyone know the location and
current name of Plowden isle? Does anyone know anything of Sir Edward, Sir
John Lawrence, or others associated with this adventure? 

Thanks.

Johan Winsser
 
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From: jdoucette@VENUS.CC.HOLLANDC.PE.CA (What, me worry?)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Gaelic-L
Date: 28 Jan 93 02:14:41 GMT
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        Regarding the Post on Gaelic-L, I am a member of that list and the
reply to the question on Irish names was not a "royal flame'.  I have seen
flames and believe me, that was not a flame.  What it was was the result of a
lot of discussion being unrealted to the list's purpose.  The Irish names query
was simply the proverbial straw.  No warning is neccessary, but if one were to
re-submit the request but state instead that you merely wish to know some good
sources on Irish or Scots names, perhaps you would get a better response.
        Gaelic-L, and Welsh-L, are not source lists for searching for one's
roots.  One that MAY be better suited to this type of inquiry is Celtic-L, a
list devoted to Celtic culture as opposed to Celtic languages.
        Yours respectfully,
        John Doucette
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From: ss6349@tyr.albany.edu (Steven H. Schimmrich)
Subject: Info about someone in WWII.
Originator: ss6349@tyr.albany.edu
Organization: Department of Geological Sciences, SUNY at Albany
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 18:52:08 GMT


   I have a question and I hope someone can help me out...

   I know the name and where a person was stationed at a particular date
during WWII.  It is believed that he may have died in battle.  How would 
I go about verifying this?  Where would I write to in Washington?  Thanks.

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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:11:00 LCL
Reply-To:     KitchenRN@SSD0.LAAFB.AF.MIL
From:         KitchenRN@SSD0.LAAFB.AF.MIL
Subject:      Dutch colony of Recife, Brazil
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

One of my lines is POLHEMUS.  They originally settled in Recife, Brazil,
which in the early 17th century was a Dutch colony, but they were apparently
driven out by the Portuguese and immigrated to New Netherlands.  Is there a
history of the Dutch colony of Recife written in English?

Rick Kitchen
kitchenrn@ssd0.laafb.af.mil
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:11:18 EST
Reply-To:     George Waller <HBLADM47@UCONNVM.BITNET>
From:         George Waller <HBLADM47@UCONNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Who wants this Bible?

Good home needed for the Bible of Chas H. Finney (b 29 Mar 1849) and
Susie E. Fuller (b 11 Oct 1850) who m 16 Apr 1870 at Purdy Station NY.
They appear to have lived in Lewisboro NY and Norwalk CT.

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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 08:10:59 -0800
Reply-To:     Richard Casault <casault@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
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              casault@CARSON.U.WASHINGTON.EDU
From:         Richard Casault <casault@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject:      BOOKS WE HAVE - BLAIS
Comments: To: ROOTS-L <roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu>

Until 13 Feb 1993, I have a copy of "Les Familles BLAIS de la
Cote-du-Sud..." by Louis-Philippe Bonneau, published in 1985 by Societe de
Conservation du Patrimoine de St-Francois de la Riviere-du-Sud.  If you have
specific search requests relative to this family in the area along the
South shore of the St Lawrence River near the Ile d'Orleans in Quebec,
Canada, I would be willing to take a look.  Please reply by e-mail, not by
list posting.

This useful volume contains extensive marriage listings (40+ pages) and
limited birth and burial listings, dating from the arrival of Pierre
BLAIS, from Hanc, Angouleme, Angoumois, France in 1664, to 1985.  The
family is extensive, and appears to be married to every line for many
miles around, repeatedly.

Pierre's first wife, Anne PERROT, was one of the "Filles du Roi," the 800
or so poor or orphaned women recruited by Louis XIV to come to New France
to marry the lonely pioneers.  Can anybody recommend further reading on
this group of hardy women responsible for the population explosion of
French settlers in the century that followed?

BTW, this is one of the many gems discovered while OCLC FirstSearch was
open.  Seattle Public Library was able to get a copy on ILL from the
National Library of Canada, Ottowa.

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||  Rick Casault         || ABERNATHY  (Id, Mt), AUBE'  (Que'bec, Mi)||
||  2705 22nd Avenue S.  || CASAULT  (FR Normandy, CA Que'bec, Mi)   ||
||  Seattle WA 98144,    || GUINDON  (Mi), HARRIS  (Mi),  HOGAN (Mi) ||
||  USA                  || KING/KOENIG  (Mt),  MUIR  (Me, Id, Mt)   ||
||                       ==============================================
||  internet: casault@u.washington.edu                        __o    ||
||  voice:  206-543-7370,     fax:  206-543-3959             -\<,    ||
||  Engineering & Construction, University of Washington   (+)/ (+)  ||
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 12:01:20 -0500
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From:         EAGAN@DELPHI.COM
Subject:      RR Records
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@vm1.nodak.edu

>>From:   IN%"ASDSLP%ALBNYVM1.BITNET@VM1.NoDak.EDU"  "Sharon L Palmateer" 21
>>To:     IN%"ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU"  "Multiple recipients of list ROOTS-L"
>>CC:
>>Subj:   RR Retirement Board
>>
>>Two days before Christmas I received a letter stating that my grandfather's
>>records had been found even though he did not work for the RR for the
>>required time to earn a pension.  They did forward a copy of his SSN
>>application and sent an address and PERSON to contact at the SS
 Administration.

Sharon,

  When did your grandfather retire from the railroad? I wrote to the Railroad
Retirement Board requesting information concerning my grandfather who had
retired in 1938. I did not have his Social Security number but did have a
claim number from 1938 correspondence that I had. The response that I received
said, in part:

     The Railroad Retirement Board's records show that the retirement claim
     folder established for Frederick G. Maloney was transferred to a
     Federal Records Center in 1965 and subsequently destroyed in
     accordance with Federal record retention schedules.

  What I want is my grandfather's Social Security number. It appears that I
did not ask the right question in my request.

Pat Eagan
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 07:24:41 -0800
Reply-To:     "David B. Combe" <dcombe@EIS.CALSTATE.EDU>
From:         "David B. Combe" <dcombe@EIS.CALSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Frederick Leon SILVERS (CA,IN,?)
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@Vm1.NoDak.Edu

I am new to the net.  I'm asking for any info or suggestions on a line
I've been working on for a long time.

Frederick Leon SILVERS is my maternal grandfather.  On marriage
application, to Delza Elaine BRASHER, he states he was born in IN, father:
Dwight SILVERS, mother: Maggie L. CUMMINGS; married in San Diego, CA, 14
September 1931, age 21.  Parents both born in IN.  Fred L SILVERS lists
himself as 21 on my mother's birth certificate the following March 1932.

In papers filed at time of divorce, address was listed where legal
documents could be sent: 1315 Brookside, Indianapolis, IN.  City directory
lists this as address of Elvia B. CUMMINS, widow of Marion, from 1918
through 1942, when Elvia died.  Elvia's obit for 1942 lists a Maggie
VIERECK as a survivor, who I have been assuming is the same as Maggie L.
CUMMINS who was married to Dwight.

I have followed back several generations Marion and Elvia CUMMINS, on the
assumtion that they are my maternal ggparents.  BUT, Frederick Leon
SILVERS disappeared following the divorce.  My grandmother and mother
refuse to discuss him.  The VIERECK's disappear out of the Indianapolis
City Directory in the 1970's (before I found them there).  IN says they
have no birth certificate for a Frederick Leon SILVERS.  He is not listed
in IGI, or other Family Search files at LDS, including Social Security
Death Index.  Assuming he told truth about age, he should have been born
in 1910/11.

Ideas? Suggestions? Help?!

Searching: Combe,Silvers,Brasher,Negley,Sheets,Viereck,Sullivan(my
mother's paternal lines only)


Dave Combe (dcombe@eis.calstate.edu)
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:52:58 -0500
Reply-To:     CORBINAE@UCBEH.SAN.UC.EDU
From:         CORBINAE@UCBEH.SAN.UC.EDU
Subject:      Staubach
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.EDU

Is anyone researching Staubach of Herbstein, Ger.?
The family came to America 1865 and settled in the Cincinnati, Ohio area.
Many branches of this family still in Herbstein, I'm told.
From: fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: some corrections
Summary: it's great to be wrong
Keywords: hessian troops
Date: 23 Jan 93 20:07:00 GMT
Organization: CompuData Inc.

As is the problem here we get to talk to many people who then become lost in 
the maze.

Some time ago I spoke (via keyboard) with someone from this group about 
available muster rolls for the Hessians from the revolutionary war.

At a local historical society meeting I had just spoken with the man in charge
of the 'Barracks at Trenton'. He had told me that such lists don't exist.

Well he was misinformed. Or maybe he meant a combined and total list. I don't 
know. Anyway, yesterday I was at the library of the Burlington County 
Community College looking for a copy of Clifford Smith's "Muster Rolls & POW 
Lists in American Archival Collections pertaining to German Mercenary
Troops...", when I saw several books published by the Archival School of 
Marburg in Hessia. These were done in 1979 and entered into a computer system 
and then massaged with calculated dates when not available and includes a 
variety of information designed for genealogists. These books are for the 
entire Hessian force including the Waldeck regiment. The writing is in German.

So here one would find Rall's troopers before they came over here and 
deserted, got shot, captured or went back. I didn't know these lists existed 
and thought they might be of use to someone here. I can check on any names if 
asked as the books are for reference only. There was extensive information 
about the Brunswick regiments there too. These seemed to have the most 
information as to town of origin, birth etc

I have the Brunswick information here at home if anybody needs anything. Out 
of the 5723 Brunswick troopers 3015 did not return home for one reason or 
other. Many were captured and stayed, others simply deserted and stayed.

As is usually the case the information I want about the Ansbach and Bayreuth 
Regiments is not available. I will have to see what is in the archives in 
Nuernberg.  Sure would be nice to have a complete listing together somewhere.

Now for the obligatory question:

What was an 'anspecade' as far a rating or rank is concerned? The c has a 
little comma on its bottom. For some reason most of the ranks are given in 
French in our archival sources. There are other strange words like 
Vaguemaitre, Sellier, Marechal Compagnon, Charron Compagnon, Audnonier etc

Fred
 

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From: lincoln@rand.org (Tom Lincoln)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: WYCKOFF House in Brooklyn, NY
Date: 26 Jan 93 00:15:34 GMT
Organization: RAND
cc: lincoln@rand.org

In article <2B646417@ssd0.laafb.af.mil> KitchenRN@SSD0.LAAFB.AF.MIL writes:
>Does anybody know anything about the WYCKOFF house in Brooklyn, New York?  It
>is said to be the oldest building still standing in New York City, and was
>made a city monument or park.  This was the family homestead of my WYCKOFFs
>from the middle 1600s.

Looks like there is a Wyckoff Association on Summit, NJ
They ought to know...

12.
Title:  The Wyckoff family in America : a genealogy. [2nd ed.] Summit,
N. J. : Wyckoff Association in America, 1978.
Description:    650 p. ; 24 cm.

Notes:  Includes indexes.

Subjects:       Wyckoff family.

Other entries: Wyckoff Association in America.

Call numbers:   CSL     Sutro   CS71 W977 1978

1.
Author: Bergen, Teunis G., 1806-1881.
Title:  The Bergen family; or, The descendants of Hans Hansen Bergen,
one of the early settlers of New York and Brooklyn, L. I.,
with notes on the genealogy of some of the branches of the
Cowenhoven, Voorhees, Eldert, Stoothoof, Cortelyou, Stryker,
Suydam, Lott, Wyckoff, Barkeloo, Lefferts,Martense, Hubbard,
Van Brunt, Vanderbilt, Vanderveer, Van Nuyse, and other Long
Island families. New York, Bergen & Tripp, 1866.
Description:    302 p. front., ports., 2 plans (1 fold.) 23 cm.

Subjects:       Bergen family (Hans Hansen Bergen, ca 1654.

Call numbers:   CSL     Sutro   CS 71 B49 1866

says melvyl....