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From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
Subject:      Re: Alcohol Carbs
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 00:00:08 GMT
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> I got a stack of stuff from Barry Grant Fuel Systems a few months back.
> They do convert Holleys for Methanol use.  . . .

     Sounds interesting.  How can I get that stack?
     Converting to alternative fuel sounds like a possible way to get around
California smog laws, which I believe exempt vehicles powered by fuels other
than gasoline.
                                  Thanks,
                                  David Schwager
                                  dschwage@vm1.tucc.trinity.edu

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Posted by: David Schwager <emory!VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU!DSCHWAGE>
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Subject: Re: new invention
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 22:03:18 GMT
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>	It would also be a great help if said company had a trade secret  
>agreement form so I could submit my product without fear of infringement.  
>	Does anyone know snail mail addresses of companies of the nature I  
>described?  
>
I have a friend who tried to market a toy through this sort of a method.  I'm
giving him a copy of your letter so he can answer it.

David Wright

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Posted by: David Wright <emory!tog-34.hac.com!dwrig>
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Subject: Re: Gears
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 15:18:27 GMT
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 > 
> First the top speed formula.
> 
> 
> ((tire radius)X(6.28)X(top engine rpms)X(60))/((5280)X(gear ratio))=top speed

Woops forgot the conversion from feet to inches 
	use 63,360 where the 5,280 is in the formula. 
> 
> Also the formula 1300=(ET in sec.) X (trap speed in mph) is used to estimate
> 	1/4 mile et times with all factors ideal.
>
Yes these calculations are correct, the proper conversion was made on
them. 
> 
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Subject: Holley lubrication
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 22:33:20 GMT
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What do you guys use to lubricate the accelerator pump cam on
Holleys?  I have a problem where the pump cam sometimes puts
enough drag on the butterfly shaft so that the shaft won't
return to idle position with the engine off.

Obviously I don't want to put ordinary grease on it since it
would soon be saturated with dust and grime.  Also, I don't
want to use silicone spray for fear of contaminating oxygen
sensors.

Any suggestions are welcome.


Bob Hale                                      ...!ucsd!btree!hale
...!btree!hale@ucsd.edu                       ...!ucsd!btree!hale@uunet.uu.net

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Posted by: emory!UCSD.EDU!btree!hale (Bob Hale)
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Subject: chromed plastic
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 22:12:39 GMT
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 Well I've tried several places, dealerships, after market chrome platers,
Eastwood CO., and a Mr. G's in FT. Worth TX. Nobody does chrome plating
of exterior plastic parts.
 The parts I have are the headlight housing covers to a '76 Chevy Vega.
They really show thier age and I want to have them refurbished, but have
run out of resources to try. So in one last attempt I am posting here in
hopes that someone has done this, or knows where it can be done. Any help
on this one would be greatly appretiated!!

                                            Mark...

[Anyone who knows, please post.  I have the same kind of need regarding
the trim on a 79 El Camino that "shed" a few years ago.  JGD]
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Posted by: emory!resdgs1.er.usgs.gov!mfugazzo (Mark Fugazzotto)
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Subject: Re: Ethenol
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 03:40:27 GMT
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Why not try Natural Gas? I believe there are more sources for refueling.
It to can increase power and use higher compression. It has an octane
rating of about 110. I've been doing research on the use of Natural Gas
in autos and there seems to be more interest and support for it than
ethenol. Companies like PG&E, Arco, and the state of Oklahoma have
invested alot into this and support it. I've seen a 300ZX running the
Pikes' Peak race and it was quite competitive!

John Stucke

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Posted by: emory!tfs.COM!johns (John Stucke)
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Subject: Re:  RPM's and Gears
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 15:06:09 GMT
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After a considerable agruement and discussion on 4.11  and 3.73 racing gears
J.C. commented.
> 
> Hee hee, I guess some of us are just a little more radical than others...
> I think the most important thing we agree on (the golden rule of performance)
> is that _all_ of the parts that make up a combination really need to match
> to get any sort of respectable result, otherwise the parts just end up
> "fighting" each other...
> 
> Later,
> JC.  jca@fibercom.com

Well perhaps I should back off a little myself.  Looking at cam catalogs
this weekend I found several torque cams.

	Crane CRN 1148202 290 deg .454 lift 
		 min. rpm recommended  2,000 
		 max. rpm recommended 4,500 

If we put this cam behind 28 inch tires and 3.73 gears we get 100.44 mph
at 4,500 rpm's.  If we use the 1300 factor that also gives us 12.94 sec.
in the 1/4 mile.

However when you look at the aftermarket cams most people put in like

	Crane CRN 113861 294/304 deg  .520/.540 lift
		min rpm's recommended 3,800
		max rpm's recommended 7,200
You would have to increase the axle ratio by 90 % to put the cam in the
same speed ranges resulting in a 7.09 axle ratio.  For simular bottom end 
action.  

Yes it's all a system that needs to be ballanced.  What would happen with
a 1148202 cam and 5.57 gears?  or a 113861 cam with 3.08 gears?

dennis
 

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Posted by: emory!picard.med.ge.com!bednarek (Dennis Bednarek Mfg 4-6971 ~BHOSVWZ#097)
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Subject: Re: Headers and Jets...
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 22:22:08 GMT
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>OK, I'm in the process of installing a set of headers on my 58 Chevy Del
>Ray (350 Small block).  I know I need to change my jets in the carb
>(Holley 600 cfm, vac secondaries), but do I go for larger ones to
>enrichen the mixture, or smaller ones to lean out the mixture. Why do I
>have to do this (technical reason)?
> 
>Posted by: Gary L. Berry <emory!s1.gov!glb>

Well, I'm not clear on exactly how it happens, but headers lean the mix a
bit.  If you are currently jetted perfectly, you will need to use larger jets.
If you are currently running a bit rich, you may be okay with the headers.

David Wright

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Posted by: David Wright <emory!tog-34.hac.com!dwrig>
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Subject: Re: No Subject Line
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 02:46:33 GMT
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In article <ngbsn#f@dixie.com> emory!marvin.contex.com!frank (Frank Perdicaro) writes:

>Having gotten fed up with the standard seat belts in new cars, I have
>started an experiment in my Fiesta concerning high quality seat belts.
>
>I have done most of the work to install a single loop seat belt bar
>for the correct attachment of 4 point belts.  I am using the existing
>mounting points to hold the bar, and am thinking of using some
>triangulation for better stiffness.  

	I would be interested in the results of this project myself.  I also
think the issue of putting high quality safety belts would be a good subject
for a PE article.  After all, if your car goes faster now and comes to a
sudden stop, you don't want to hit the inside of it at the faster speed you
were going!

	Yeah, yeah, that's two articles I've suggested in the last two weeks
without writing any.  When I do a neato project, I'll write it up.  Fair
enough?

[Please, pretty please? :-)  I have a personal interest since I badly want
to trash the %$^&%^&^*& passive trash that came in my wife's Camry and
I need to add shoulder belts to the Knardley.  What I'd like to find
is a high quality, non-inertial 3 point belt with one latch.  Just have
not had time to go looking.  JGD]

Later,
-- 
Chris BeHanna	DoD# 114          1983 H-D FXWG Wide Glide - Jubilee's Red Lady
behanna@syl.nj.nec.com	          1975 CB360T - Baby Bike
Disclaimer:  Now why would NEC
agree with any of this anyway?    I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs.

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Posted by: emory!phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com!behanna (Chris BeHanna)
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From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
Subject: 383cid SB Chevy - AGAIN
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 15:25:33 GMT
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  3333  8888  3333    First of all thanks to those guys who replied to my
     3  8  8     3    question about the 383cid stroker SB.Yeah, I know -
   333  8888   333    I didn't tell you much details, I wanted to test if
     3  8  8     3    there are people out on the net who have built such
  3333  8888  3333    an  engine  or  are  interested/experienced in this
                      subject. Also I am just in the planning-stage of my
    C    I     D      project,  so  I  don't know too much about it yet -
                      I hope we'll can discuss the problems I ferret out.

  JIZHONG  asked  why someone wants to build a 383cid - spending a lot of
  time  &  effort  -  instead of using a stock 400 block. That's really a
  good   question   and  it's  not  too  easy  to  find  general answers.
  In my case it's simple :  I have a 400 crank, a 350 block  &  I can get
  cheap 400 rods.  There are several way's in getting 383 cid, my plan is
  to  use 5.565 rods & .030-over, stock 350cid pistons.  This is possible
  cause 350 & 400cid pistons have the same compression-height. I've often
  read  about  this  way to achieve my aim. And here's the first question
  /thing I don't understand. I did the following calculations :


  CENTER OF           CENTER OF         CENTER OF           PISTON-
  CRANK MAIN-         ROD-              WRIST-PIN           DECK
  JOURNAL             JOURNAL
      v                   v                 v                  v

     (x) <--- CRANK ---> (x) <--- ROD ---> (x) <--- COMP. ---> I
              STROKE              LENGTH            HEIGHT


  1) For 350 cid :

              3.484       +       5.7       +       1.56       =  10.744

  2) For 383 cid (or 400) :

              3.750       +       5.565     +       1.56       =  10.875


  As  you  see  I  got  two  different results - this means that the deck
  height of a 350 isn't the same as that of a 383 (or 400). Why ? Where's
  the error ?  I always thought the 400 rods compensate the longer stroke
  in  such  a  manner  that  both  350  &  400  have  equal  deck-height.

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Posted by: emory!cleveland.freenet.edu!bh725 (Werner J. Karl)
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Subject: 383 Chevy Stroker : Who has experience ?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 19:14:24 GMT
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Hello! I am going to build a 383 cui stroker out of a 350 small
block from Chevy .. so I thought I just asking around who has
experience in this things .. I am specially interested in what
combo of cam and intake manifold you use .. I want a strong street
engine so I thought about this new Edelbrock Performer RPM -
what do you think ? Has anyone tested the Performer RPM ? Which setup do
you use ?
Questions over questions .. hope someone can give me info

#
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Posted by: emory!cleveland.freenet.edu!bh725 (Werner J. Karl)
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From: hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List)
Subject: Re: 383cid SB Chevy - AGAIN
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 03:05:24 GMT
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Werner J. Karl writes:

>  ... And here's the first question
>  /thing I don't understand. I did the following calculations :


>  CENTER OF           CENTER OF         CENTER OF           PISTON-
>  CRANK MAIN-         ROD-              WRIST-PIN           DECK
>  JOURNAL             JOURNAL
>      v                   v                 v                  v

>     (x) <--- CRANK ---> (x) <--- ROD ---> (x) <--- COMP. ---> I
>              STROKE              LENGTH            HEIGHT

>  1) For 350 cid :
>              3.484       +       5.7       +       1.56       =  10.744

>  2) For 383 cid (or 400) :
>              3.750       +       5.565     +       1.56       =  10.875

>  As  you  see  I  got  two  different results - this means that the deck
>  height of a 350 isn't the same as that of a 383 (or 400). Why ? Where's
>  the error ?

You need to replace that crank stroke term by _half_ the stroke; this gives

1) 350:  1.742 + 5.700 + 1.560 = 9.002 (giving .023 deck height) and
2) 400:  1.875 + 5.565 + 1.560 = 9.000 (giving .025 deck height),

which is close enough as makes no difference.  A suggestion:  the custom in
building 383's seems to be to use the 5.7 inch rods, to reduce angularity and
also to gain access to "pink" or other heavy-duty rods (a set of eight pink
rods costs $50 more than eight regular rods as reconditioned by Performance
Automotive Warehouse).  This requires a piston with reduced compression height,
of course, but aren't these relatively common and cheap too these days?
Even a stock 5.7" rod is stronger than a 5.565" rod, and you'd have to grind
a 350 block for clearance in either case, so it seems to be worthwhile to
shell out the small amount of extra $$ and use the longer rods.  (My vaporware
car is currently expecting to run a 383 to get extra compression with little
or no piston dome, for use with natural gas.)

--Mark Looper
(fat ol' smallblock '70 Caprice, vaporware '64 Chevelle)

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Posted by: emory!cco.caltech.edu!looper (Mark D. Looper)
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Subject: Re: 383 Chevy Stroker : Who has experience ?
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 16:54:34 GMT
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In article <9gbs6mg@dixie.com>, hotrod@dixie.com (The Hotrod List) writes:
> 
> 
> Hello! I am going to build a 383 cui stroker out of a 350 small
> block from Chevy .. so I thought I just asking around who has
> experience in this things .. I am specially interested in what
> combo of cam and intake manifold you use .. I want a strong street
> engine so I thought about this new Edelbrock Performer RPM -
> what do you think ? Has anyone tested the Performer RPM ? Which setup do
> you use ?
> Questions over questions .. hope someone can give me info
> 
> #
> #
> 
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> Posted by: emory!cleveland.freenet.edu!bh725 (Werner J. Karl)
    

     I will leave you some information later today (Tuesday).  Please stand by,
I have some very interesting information for you.    

                                                   S.A.M.

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Posted by: emory!IASTATE.EDU!munson1 (Liberty J Matt)
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Subject: rebuildable sb chevy fuel pump
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 16:51:19 GMT
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-> does anybody have a source for a rebuild kit for a
-> rebuildable sb chevy fuel pump.  mine is out of a 56 wagon.

 If you find a source, let me know.  I used to have a couple, and I have
a box of "rebuildable" Ford pumps around somewhere.  Why should I have
to buy a $20 pump instead of a $1 diaphragm?  IT'S A CONSPIRACY!
                                                                                                         

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Posted by: emory!chaos.lrk.ar.us!dave.williams (Dave Williams)
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Subject: Synthetic motor oils
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 21:45:27 GMT
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I managed to start an argument about brands of synthetic motor oil on
another mailing list.  In an attempt to salvage some respectability,
I'm looking for comparative facts about the many different brands on
the market.  (The specific hot button was Amsoil vs. Red Line, but
Mobil 1 and other mass-market brands are also of interest.)

Are there any FACTS out there about the comparative worth and
properties of these oils?  I'd prefer information that doesn't come
directly from oil vendors, if possible.

 -- Chuck Fry  Chucko@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov

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Posted by: Chuck Fry <emory!ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov!chucko>
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Subject: Request for info
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Looking for data on emissions tests of smallblock Chevy combinations
350/383/400  with various camshafts (using catalytic converters).
TPI and carb data would both be helpful.  Thanks.

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Subject: Re: Mo Compression
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David LaRose writes:

>Dan Malek writes:
>> I am hoping that the alternative fuel experiments
>> that the major automakers are performing will result in fuel composition
>> sensors that I can purchase at a reasonable price.  Basically, build the

...

>Chrysler corp. has developed a sensor which measures fuel composition by
>measuring the dielectric constant of the fuel as it flows between a pair
>of electrodes.

...

>Chrysler's sensor distinguishes between methanol & gasoline.  I'm not
>sure what the dielectric constant of ethanol is, but this technology
>would probably work.

GM also has a sensor in the fuel line to measure the mix of alcohol and
gasoline in their flexible-fuel Luminas; I don't know what the technology
is.  However, at last year's Alternative Transportation Expo in Burbank, CA
(I think), the California Renewable Fuels Council had an ethanol/gasoline
Lumina that came from the factory, so GM evidently has the ethanol calibration
in hand for their sensor.

For us knuckle-draggers out here, does anybody know of a vendor, or at least
a reference telling how to modify a stocker, for a carburetor to use
single-fuel alcohol (eth or meth) for the _street_?  I know where to get
full-race Holley double-pumpers for methanol, but I'd just as soon have a
transition circuit and a few other frills if it's all the same to you...

--Mark Looper
(fat ol' smallblock '70 Caprice, vaporware '64 Chevelle)

[Stoichiometric mix for ethanol is 9:1 (methanol 6.45:1) and makes
much more power if fairly rich so you need to figure at least twice
the flow as a gasoline carb.  I think Barry Grant Fuels here in
Georgia has a paper available on the conversion (see Dave's vendor list)
I'm pretty sure Kinsler Fuel Systems (see ditto) does.  Lean alcohol
detonates rather violently so you MUST make sure you stay rich of 
stoch. JGD]
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Posted by: emory!cco.caltech.edu!looper (Mark D. Looper)
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