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From: philippe@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Philippe Benichou)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: neuromancer
Date: 17 Dec 92 04:27:40 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

Does anyone have a relatively small text file that has "some" of the 
hints of the game called "Neuromancer"... I addicted to the 
game!!!
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From: mnielsen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (The_Dominator)
Subject: Re: test
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:13:27 GMT

In article <9212172307.AA14037@photon.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> The_Dominator <mnielsen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes:
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From: act@softserver.canberra.edu.au (Andrew Turner)
Subject: Re: WIZ 7 Help needed!!!
Organization: University of Canberra
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 21:58:27 GMT

 hardgrov@pilot.njin.net (Roy Hardgrove) writes:
SPOILERS - MINOR

>I am playing Crusaders of the Dark Savant and am having a bit of
>trouble.  Most of my trouble seems to emanate from a lack of keys--or
>at least the correct keys.  In the first town of New City (Old City)
>there are two buildings that I can not figure out how to get into.
>One of them has a Device that accepts a Key Card but when it is
>inserted I am attacked.  The second problem is the T'RANG house.  How
>do you get in there?  Also the museum has me stumped.  I have gotten
>inside and have obtained the Rebus Egge (whatever that is) but can't
>seem to figure anything else out.  Further there is a pesky weapons
>dealer who won't let me explore his building.  How to I get past this?

You will get the required Control Card later - keep playing and don't worry.
You will get into the T'Rang house much later and in a way not expected.
You will need to use the Rebus egg later on - clue - you will need some salt!
The Inn Keeper can give you the info you need for the Arms dealer.
>
>Now onto Orkogre Castle.  How do you open the other locked doors.  I
>have found the crown key, the armoury, and the place where the
>magician was killed (also the gorilla) but I am stuck.  No keys, and I
>believe I have looked and searched everywhere.  HELP!!!!

Looks like you will need to buy something off the New City Inn Keeper that
monkeys like to eat>
>
General Comment: You need to keep playing and explore assiduosly.  You will
return to New City many times as the game is not 'sequential'.  I use the old
maze trick of following around walls with my left shoulder to the wall.

-- 
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				She lays eggs in the Relative When.
				She doesn't lay eggs in the Positive Now
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From: evans1@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (Dan Evans)
Subject: Re: Kings Quest VI (Help please)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:29:23 GMT

In article <BzDCCy.Lz2@cs.dal.ca> ronan@ug.cs.dal.ca (brian c ronan) writes:
>Small problem...what do I need to "see" the minotaur
>coming...I have shield but I can't ready it...Do I
>have to charm him....if so do I get ashes from the torch 
>I lit when I fell down?.....And what do I do with that
>damn Tapestry
>
>				Brian


Maybe you throw the Tapestry over the minotaur.  That's a guess, no spoiler.
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From: ST32373@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: EOB I: HELP!
Date: 21 Dec 92 04:45:01 GMT
Organization: Louisiana Tech University


   A friend of mine is highly addicted to the game. (No, Really, not me). And w
ants to know the following: 1) Where to find keys for drow level? (Not the ston
e items) 2) Where to find stone ankh/ring? 3) Where to find 'octagon' keys for
drow level. Also a hint file would be most appreciated. Thanx in advance.
 
 
 
 
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From: ross@kaos.b11.ingr.com (Ross Erickson)
Subject: Re: Starflight 3!!
Reply-To: ross@kaos.b11.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 05:12:46 GMT

>   I also played and enjoyed both StarFlight I & II. The length was part
>of the enjoyment. I wrote files for both games which, while not walkthrus,
>did give pertinient information on where items could be found, locations
>of special sites and objects, worm holes and suggested strategy. It was
>a lot of work to put these files together, but well worth it. I'll be
>looking forward to SF 3!                                Wyv

Unfortunately, Jeanne, EA is saying no-dice on a SF3.  At least
publically anyway.  More scoop at C.E.S., I guess.
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From: kdetro@mail.boi.hp.com (Keith Detro)
Subject: Re: Wizardry 7 EDITOR
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:51:47 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
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From: czorker@kirk.NMSU.Edu (Cory Richard Zorker)
Subject: RAGNORAK DOCS...
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 09:42:15 GMT

Hi there!  Does anyone have the documentation for Ragnorak???
If you do, could you please mail me at czorker@freedom.nmsu.edu?
I am looking specifically for the player's handbook, but if other
docs are out there on the game I'll take that too :)

			Thanks,

				Cory Zorker (czorker@freedom.nmsu.edu)
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From: white@watsci.UWaterloo.ca (Brad White)
Subject: Falcon 3.0 - cant get the modem connect to work Please help :)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:15:17 GMT

Hello,
My friend and I have been trying to connect and play by modem.  We both have
F3.0d (not OFT), 486/33, QEMM, 4 and 8 meg ram respectively.  I have a 2400
baud internal modem, and he has a 2400 baud modem/9600 baud fax (internal).
We have set both with the same flight model (complex, based on someon elses
advice :) ), and followed the directions for hook up exactly.  The modem
dials, then we both get 'modems connected' message, after 2 secs that
updates and reads 'waiting for other modem to connect'.  If we pick up the
phone, no dial tone, things appear connected.
Hypothesis :  modems are connected, but the games arent talking. (We both
have registered copies).
Would appreciated any help.
Please e-mail replies:
  white@watsci.uwaterloo.ca
Thanks
Brad
From: lebastar@crazy.inria.fr (Franck Lebastard)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Problem in king quest 5
Date: 15 Dec 92 13:27:21 GMT
Reply-To: Franck.Lebastard@crazy.inria.fr
Organization: INRIA/CERMICS Sophia-Antipolis

Hi,

We've got a problem in King quest 5.

In the mountains, at a very moment (just after having used the rope to climb
up on the upper way), the road is cut by a big hole.
How can you pass it ?

-- 

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INRIA/CERMICS  BP 93               +33 93 65 77 42, fax: +33 93 65 77 83
F-06902 Sophia-Antipolis Cedex, FRANCE    B003  telex: INRIASA 970 050 F
From: cgc5437@cs.tamu.edu (Graydon Cecil Chenault)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Fate of Atlantis
Date: 13 Dec 1992 07:06:14 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
NNTP-Posting-Host: neuron.tamu.edu

I'm playing Indiana Jones--Fate of Atlantis and I'm stuck on Crete.  I
put
the Sunstone and the Moonstone on the pedastal thing and align them
to rising sun and new moon.  This is the best I can interpret Plato's
Log to mean.  Is this incorrect?  When I push the spindle nothing
happens.  I tried a lot of other combinations and nothing worked.
What am I doing wrong?

Thanks in advance,
Gray C.
--
Gray Chenault
Texas A&M University
Internet: cgc5437@cs.tamu.edu
F_O_T_S
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From: aziminia@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Amir)
Subject: KQ6 Demo Question?
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 02:23:53 GMT

I tried to ftp into ulowell.edu to get the files but the anonymous username
I was using failed everytime......

Then i tried getting into wuarchive but the files were not there.....
If i remeber correctly it was said to be in the MSDOS_UPLOADS/demos directory
but it wasn't there...could some one point me in the right direction here?

Thanks in advance.....

-Amir
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From: sat28485@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scooter)
Subject: Xwing due in Feb.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:34:30 GMT

I just got off the phone with the Manager of our local Software
Etc.  And he said Lucasfilm told him that it would be out in
February.  (I think they mean 1993...but then again....)
-Dan
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From: ronan@ug.cs.dal.ca (brian c ronan)
Subject: Eye of the Beholder III
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 03:32:23 GMT

Sorry to dissappoint anyone but the resource I have
told me and I read something similar that the creators
of Eye of the Beholder (1 and 2) and programmers have
LEFT SSI and now work for Virgin software...they brought
you Legends of Kryandia or whatever that game was..
HENCE THERE WILL BE NO MORE EOB GAMES...I know I know
and I'm just as pissed as you are...sorry..I HOPE I'M
WRONG OR HAVE BEEN MISINFORMED

					Brian
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From: rcerami@donner.cc.bellcore.com (cerami,richard s)
Subject: Wiz 7 / DSAVANT
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 14:09:22 GMT
Keywords: Arg!

Can some kind soul help me with this @#$! game?

I'm in the Arms of Argus but that Umpani dude won't offer to
trade with me.  I offer peace, bribe, etc.. but he always just
walks away or decides to fight.  (I've told him what he wanted me
to tell him).  What do I need to do to get this thing to talk to me?

Also,  how do I get into see the Umpani Attache' in New City?  I've
been through Ulkpur...

Strider
From: chrisk@pcx.ncd.com (Chris Kessel)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: IBM PC games for sale
Date: 13 Dec 92 22:29:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: pcx.1992Dec13.222910.810
Distribution: usa
Organization: NCD PC-Xdivision, Beaverton, OR

I have the following IBM PC games for sale.  P&H is included in the
price.  All prices are less than I bought them for, but I don't
know their current prices so if it seems unreasonable just make me 
an offer.  All games have full manuals and boxes and some still have
receipts.  I think all games support at least the Adlib if not the
Soundblaster.

Robosport: $35, made for Windows, playable over a LAN, strategy.
MegaTraveller I: $15 Cool game a while back, but a bit dated, RPG.
Battle Island: $20 Nice tactical game.
Ultima V: $20 Good, but I'm of the belief that IV was the best of the series.
Realms: $15 Interesting game with nice graphics, military/strategy.
Shadow Sorcerer: $12 I never played it, dunno if it's any good.
Theatre of War: $35 Stunning 640x480 graphics, great sound.  Strategy.
Solitaires Journey: $35 Great solitaire game (100+ solitaire games).
Siege:  $35 Cool game, lots of troop types.  Strategy.

Chris
chrisk@pcx.ncd.com
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From: erisande@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Nowhere Man)
Subject: Re: montana footall bug????
Organization: ARCP&D
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:07:22 GMT

cac5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHRISTOPHER ANDREW CAPIZANO)
>every once in a while during a league game, i have been on defense and the
>computer's team will line up in defense when it is still their ball.  when
>this happens, the game freezes and i have to reboot my computer.
>
>has this ever happen to anyone else?
>
>is there any kind of fix for this?

	I would also like to know.  This has happened to me a couple
of times.					Erin -
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She's so hot, yet so cold...  That's what I like about her...
From: mak@snake10.cs.wisc.edu (Wing Mak)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: Eye of the Beholder III
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:16:34 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: /usr/lib/news/rn/organization

In article <BzFr5z.6Ms@cs.dal.ca> ronan@ug.cs.dal.ca (brian c ronan) writes:
>Sorry to dissappoint anyone but the resource I have
>told me and I read something similar that the creators
>of Eye of the Beholder (1 and 2) and programmers have
>LEFT SSI and now work for Virgin software...they brought
>you Legends of Kryandia or whatever that game was..
>HENCE THERE WILL BE NO MORE EOB GAMES...I know I know
>and I'm just as pissed as you are...sorry..I HOPE I'M
>WRONG OR HAVE BEEN MISINFORMED
>
>					Brian

Westwood Studio has a game just released, Dune II, so maybe you can try that
out instead of waiting for EOB III. BTW, all the reviews that I have seen
about Dune II say that it is a real cool game.

--Eric.
From: sat28485@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scooter)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: x-wing
Date: 12 Dec 92 04:24:29 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I'm on a waiting list for it..
They said it would be in Monday or Tuesday..
Anyone else have better luck?
-Dan
From: mfcdbarn@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Darryl K. Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Release date for X-wing now set for January, Oh S___.
Keywords: Release date for X-wing has been pushed back again.
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:42:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hello

    I just talked to Lucusfilm games sales office.  According to the 
representative I talked to X-wing's national release date has been 
pushed back to mid to late January. 

    Note, I also talked to one of our local distributers (Electronic 
Boutique) who indicated there has been a limited release in a few major 
cities (probably New York and L.A.).  However there is probably no way
for the rest of us in the smaller outlets to get any.

   Oh well, I guess I will find something else to spend the money on.

Darryl K. Barnes
From: D1BQC@CUNYVM.BITNET
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Hugo2: drying the matches+
Date: 18 Dec 92 07:34:47 GMT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

Greetings. In Hugo2, I have the serum bottle (used), dynamite for cave rocks,
bell (unused), catnip (unused), 147 points, and no clue as to how to get the
magnifying glass to dry the matches(to open the cave entrance w/dynamite).
Shed, maze, buttons, dog, snake, phone calls are done.  Any hints on how to
cut or avoid venus fly traps? Back entrance? Thanks in advance.
From: ckashuba@chimi.engr.ucdavis.edu (Chris Kashuba)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: PQ3 Pentagram HELP
Date: 19 Dec 92 11:50:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: College of Engineering - University of California - Davis

I need help drawing the perfect pentagram on the city map. How and where 
should the points of the crimes be placed? If an address is 242, should
I place the point at 200 or roughly the middle? Should the point be on
the lines (streets) or in the middle of the block?

Thanks,
Chris Kashuba
From: dtk@kepler.unh.edu (David T Kao)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: GS2000
Date: 17 Dec 1992 22:44:01 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

Although I have had GS2000 for a long time, I did not have time to play
it until yesterday. There is one annoying problem:

Every time when I finished a mission or the chopper crashed, a still image
appeared and I was asked to press any key to proceed. However, this never
work, the system just got hang and I had to reboot it.

I am running DOS 5 with a clean boot diskette. Any suggestion will
be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

David

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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Saturday, 12 Dec 1992 06:24:15 CST
From: <U36940@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Games for Trade . . .

I have several Genesis carts for trade and some computer games for PC's:
Sega Genesis:
Faery Tale Adventure
Herzog Zwei
Sword of Vermillion
Tommy Lasorda Baseball

IBM PC's:
Eye of the Beholder 2
Martian Memorandum.
JET FIGHTER 1 ( SORRY NO BOX )

I AM LOOKING FOR CLOUDS OF XEEN, ULTIMA 7 OR FATE OF ATLANTIS.
If you are interested, please e-mail me. Thanx

                                         HB
From: atkis@cs.uq.oz.au (Steven Atkinson)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: NITEMARE missions for Wolf-3D v1.1+
Date: 14 Dec 92 06:55:45 GMT
Reply-To: atkis@cs.uq.oz.au
Organization: Department of Computer Science, The University of Queensland

I have installed the NITEMARE missions on Wolf v1.1, but only the first level
had the new maps / guards.  Anyone had similar difficulties?

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From: segrier@unix2.tcd.ie (Simon E. Grier)
Subject: ---Virus Simulators----
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:12:16 GMT

Does anyone know of any Virus Simulators that can be got via FTP?
I want memory resident programmes that ONLY upset screen display, and
that DIE as soon as the compter is switched off.

Thanks,
S.G.
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		Silence is not the opposite of noise.
		 It is merely the lack of it.
From: darren@sol.acs.unt.edu (Darren Paul Loher)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: Xwing due in Feb.
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:45:33 GMT
Organization: University of North Texas

sat28485@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scooter) writes:

>I just got off the phone with the Manager of our local Software
>Etc.  And he said Lucasfilm told him that it would be out in
>February.  (I think they mean 1993...but then again....)
>-Dan

Just talked with LucasArts games direct.  They say, "Sometime in January."
From: chri4000@w250zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Christian Klass)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Privateer Preview in German Mag.
Date: 17 Dec 1992 09:23:05 GMT
Organization: ZRZ der TU-Berlin
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: w250zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de


Hi there,
in a german game magazine called Power Play, they had a preview
of PRIVATEER from ORIGIN. As I saw the pictures (loads of 'em),
I almost fainted (and no, I'm not a wimp ;-) because the ships
are not as fuzzy as in the Wing Commander series if get to near...
NO, they are all drawn in SVGA. The screen res. will be same as in
WC II, BUT the ships and the stations now have at least twice
as many pixels - they will be CRYSTAL SHARP, even if you are
about to crash right into them!!!!!! There will be about 50(!)
different stations to land on and many ship-types and even new
weapons like impulse-cannons. Well, now for the strange point,
the guys of Origin want to sqeeze it all into 10 MBytes. They
must be nuts! they are going to give us a game which demands(!)
at least a 33 MHz CPU to be played fine and 50 MHz to be fun times 2.
And then they expect us to play it with only 10 MBytes of Data,
I say NO - I want at least 20 or more MBytes for that my evil and
crazed mind will get anything it needs;-) Well, as far as they
knew (in the mag.) there will be a speech pack for PRIVATEER.
Oops, I almost forgot: the game will be there in May 1993 !?!

Bye,
      Chris

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* Christian Klass * EMAIL: chri4000@w250zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de * **************************************************************
From: kabreuer@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Klaus Breuer)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Comanche !
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:51:23 GMT
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen
NNTP-Posting-Host: faui00e.informatik.uni-erlangen.de

Hi everyone!

Anyone else got the COMANCHE game from Nova Logic yet? I bought the
german version here for DM 130,- and really love it! Sure, it isn't
cheap, and neither is the required computer (386, 4MB RAM, 12MB Drive
Space, runs _real_ well on an 486/50), but sheesh! 
While other simulators (Gunship 2000!) might be more accurate and contain
less of the frenzied blasting found every now and then in Comanche, no one
comes close to bringing you the feeling of actually being there. The landscape
has to be see to be believed! Solid 3D, scanned from satelite maps, allows
you to really use the terrain, and not just hide behind a kinda pyramid in
the desert.

Hurtling over an enemy tank into a narrow gorge, while a missile detonates
on the wall just to my right...makes for sleepless nights...

Ciao,
Klaus
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** "Geez, I need a _reason_ for everything?" --Calvin 
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Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: dabl2@nlm.nih.gov (Don A.B. Lindbergh)
Subject: Re: KQ6 Demo Question?
Organization: National Library of Medicine
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 16:01:09 GMT

In article <Bz94Ir.1FC@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ftw33616@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (.) writes:
>aziminia@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Amir) writes:
>
>>I tried to ftp into ulowell.edu to get the files but the anonymous username
>>I was using failed everytime......
>

Hmm.  Well, the sys admin there thought they were bogus and may have erased 
them anyway.

>>Then i tried getting into wuarchive but the files were not there.....
>>If i remeber correctly it was said to be in the MSDOS_UPLOADS/demos directory
>>but it wasn't there...could some one point me in the right direction here?
>
>Wuarchive erases some files faster than wildfire.  Commercial games go poof
>almost instantly (aka the street fighter clones), but I was surprised to
>see the kings quest 6 demo get erased in less than a day.  mebbe cuz it was
>so big.

So they don't want stuff like this?  I uploaded it again to 
/pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS/demos

sorry if it was the wrong thing to do.

--Don Lindbergh
dabl2@lhc.nlm.nih.gov
From: fach1@gipsy3.cs.uni-sb.de (Feddern Christian)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: Wiz 7 / DSAVANT
Date: 16 Dec 1992 16:55:56 GMT
Organization: Computational Linguistics Dept., U Saarbruecken
NNTP-Posting-Host: gipsy3.cs.uni-sb.de
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

you must tell him Black Market

Greetings from Germany

Bye Chris
From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: Fate of Atlantis
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 15:54:38 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Gray Chenault asked about aligning the stones on Crete...
 
If you're following the clues from your version of Plato's hintbook,
you should be ok.. (every game is slightly different, so what your
book says will most likely be different from anyone else's..)
 
You should be sure to align BOTH stones..  the Sunstone still has to
be aligned to the "horns" first, then the Moonstone has to be aligned
to the Sunstone...  (and when you find the Worldstone, it has to be
the last one to be aligned..)

BobR