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From: mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mike Levis) (OS/2)
Subject: Re: Windows NT humor
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 08:41:40 GMT

In article <19939@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> f110045@othello.ucdavis.edu writes:
>...
>
>I may be wrong, and if so flame on, but according to Kogan's book "The
>Design of OS/2" the windows 3.0 compatability is based on 3.1 code:
>    Loaded into the VDM is a special version of the Windows 3.1 protected
>    mode kernel that directly services the requests of Windows 3.X
>    applications running in the VDM." pg 300
>Alan Williams
>ajwilliams@ucdavis.edu

Your book must be a different one from mine.  My copy says "...special
version of the Windows 3.X kernel that..."  (The title page says
3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 for the book version).

Anyways, I recommend _The Design of OS/2_ by Deitel and Kogan (published
by Addison-Wesley) for you technical types out there.

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 09:58:39 EST
From: <BJT105@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Why not standard VESA

A couple facts about the Video Electronics Standards Association (VESA):

1. The chairman is Scott Vouri (sp?), who is also president (and chief
   programmer) of Binar Graphics -- the company which is producing the
   32-bit SVGA OS/2 drivers under contract. (also the people who produced
   the Winspeed drivers for window ... they get around!)
   If it were possible to utilize the real-mode VESA interface to write OS/2
   drivers, it would have been done.

2. VESA DOES HAVE a protect mode standard .. (v 0.7), which is called the
   Protect Mode Interface (PMI).  This standard has just been updated to
   be completely compatable with OS/2's PMI file.   I will admit that the
   utility of this standard has so far been nil, because support for a new
   chipset cannot be added just by writing a .PMI file for it.  However,
   hopefully an implementation can be created which will allow this to
   happen for frame buffer boards (it won't ever happen for accelerators,
   unfortunately).

3. Reasons why real-mode VESA has not been useful for OS/2:
   a. There are time-critical sections of the session-switch code which
      can not rely on the 16-bit BIOS or TSR code.  (BVHSVGA)
   b. VESA is useless in facilitating background execution of DOS programs.
      So, with a VESA driver, DOS background execution could not be allowed.
      (VSVGA)
   c. Performance for VESA would likely be unacceptable for PM, because it
      would mean an extra layer, and a thunk layer to 16-bit code at that.
      Also, nothing about refresh rates is included in the standard.

I wish VESA were more useful, and maybe it could be with more thought.
But, basically, the consumer must stop considering "SVGA" to be one thing,
and start demanding compatability and responsibility from graphics board
vendors.  The alternative is new OSs like OS/2, linux, etc. will always
require a hurculean effort to produce a new (and ever growing) set of
SVGA drivers.

Bernie
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From: 5692330@mcimail.com  (Robert Gammon)
Subject: Re: HELP: Printing under Win-OS/2
Nntp-Software: PC/TCP NNTP
Organization: Texas Instruments Materials and Controls Group
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:25:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec3.210815.18251@odin.diku.dk> joker@diku.dk (Morten Christian Holmgreen) writes:

 >> sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:
 >> 
 >> >In article <1992Dec1.214523.20213@odin.diku.dk> joker@diku.dk (Morten Christian Holmgreen) writes:
 >> >>I have problems with my HP LJ III whenever printing our graphics. It's
 >> >>pure garbage coming out. It's quite annoying, and the result is, that I
 >> >>cant print from either Excel or ghostscript.... This stinks...
 >> 
 >> >Is the advice in the OS/2 FAQ List of any assistance here?
 >> 
 >> >-- 
 >> >Timothy F. Sipples      | Read the OS/2 FAQ List 2.0h, available from
 >> >sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/info
 >> >Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
 >> >of Chicago, 60637       | [Read the List, THEN post to ONE OS/2 newsgroup.]
 >> 
 >> Nope, I've tried both with and w/o printmanager, sending to LPT1: and
 >> LPT1.OS2 and finally I've tried with the GA driver (not the CSD) in all
 >> possible combinations. Nothing helps. And yes, I'm quite sure it's the
 >> printer driver, since printing from MS-Win 3.0 or 3.1 works perfectly.
 >> And I qould REALLY hate having to boot in DOS every time I need to 
 >> print out somehing graphic... Any advice???
 >> 
 >> Christian

I had this sort of problem at home.  Cured it with a NEW printer cable.  My
old one had some broken/shorted wires.  DOS didn't care, but OS/2 did.
--
Regards,
Robert Gammon
(713)-274-3299       (voice)
(713)-274-2324       (fax)

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From: davego@halcyon.com (Dave Oliphant)
Subject: Help Getting Started With Ghostscript
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:49:21 GMT

I downloaded the new release of GhostScript from hobbes yesterday and
spent pretty much the whole day trying to get it to work like I think it
should, i.e., output something fancy on the screen or the printer.

No joy.

Would someone please post a short .ps file with instructions as to what
to type on the command line to get the .ps file to display on the screen
and printer.

It will be greatly appreciated, and when I figure it out, I'll post my
results, if any.

Also, I suspect there is a faq somewhere but I couldn't find one in
news.answers nor any specific ghostscript group in my .newsrc file.
Anybody know if there is one, and where do I get it?  Also, point me in
the right direction for any ftp location which might have some more
explanatory docs for ftping.

Thanks!

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From: nmouawad@waterloo.edu (Naji Mouawad)
Subject: Ahem ... what is the Professional Developers Toolkit ?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:35:15 GMT



The subject says it all ... what's on this CD rom ? I don't mean the
entire list of files but rather a simple description of it.

Thank you for your help.

naji.

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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Bug in drawing windowed VDM
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:37:47 GMT

In article <BAB.92Dec17083108@se39.wg2.waii.com> bab@se39.wg2.waii.com (Brian Button) writes:
>Has anyone else seen this bug?
>When I open anything in a maximum sized DOS window, in 800x600x256
>mode, the contents of the window are shifted over about 1/4" from the
>right side of the window. This results in the left 1/4" of the
>contents being clipped, and 1/4" of whatever is beneath the window
>peaking through on the right. I can get the window to redraw itself by
>resizing it to a smaller size and then back to full size.
>This only happens about 50% of the time, but it's getting annoying. It
>only appeared after I installed the service pack.
>BTW, the video card is a Diamond Speedstar (the basic Tseng 4000 based
>one).

Yes, known bug.

Workarounds:

(1) Maximize the window, then reposition it.

(2) Set things up so that the command MODE CO80,25 is run as you open
an OS/2 window.  You can do so by setting up a CMD file, for example,
or by using the /K parameter when invoking CMD.EXE.

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From: azzarito@cse.fau.edu (Doug Azzarito)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Correction to: Another Internal Processing Error
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:05:13 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA

In article <1992Dec11.104816.15883@rcvie.co.at> cc_paul@rcvie.co.at (Wolf N. Paul) writes:
>Actually, the "CPS: Extent not found" was not include in the error
>message I got.

Just FYI - I released a new UHPFS.DLL to Compuserve last week that should
fix the CPS: errors.  All you have to do is run CHKDSK with this DLL, and
it'll find and fix your allocation errors.  It should also help keep them
from coming back, when used in the AUTOCHECK of HPFS.

The UHPFS.ZIP should be available where most OS/2 fixes are found.

 -- "The OS/2 Guy"
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From: 5692330@mcimail.com  (Robert Gammon)
Subject: Re: Tseng ET4000 w/ CSD Problems
Nntp-Software: PC/TCP NNTP
Organization: Texas Instruments Materials and Controls Group
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:21:43 GMT

In article <3376@ncr-mpd.FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM> gkendall@ncr-mpd.FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM (Guy Kendall) writes:

 >> Please excuse me if these topics have been discussed, but due some hardware
 >> problems I am just getting around to installing the CSD. Here is the problem.
 >> I installed the CSD over my 2.0 GA (no beta or anything) and it never asked
 >> about a video card, so I assumed it found and installed the correct drivers
 >> for my Tseng ET4000 based video card (1 meg Perfectview). I was running beta
 >> Tseng drivers with GA and they seemed to work fine. After I installed the
 >> CSD, they look pretty good until I display an object that has the little
 >> tabs that you can select different pages. Like when you install a new program
 >> you click on the little tabs on the right of a book to select the different
 >> pages to configure it correct, selecting things such as the DOS settings. 
 >> Everything else is just fine, just the tabs are displayed as garbage. You can
 >> still click on them if you guess what they do.
 >> 
 >> Any idea what this problem is and how I might fix it? Since I have been 
 >> away from this newsgroup from a few months, I might have missed a fix. Please
 >> point me in the right direction. Thanks.
 >> 

Had this very problem this week with two machines.  The problem is with the
DISPLAY.DLL from your beta TSENG drivers.  These drivers are for the 16-bit 
GRE architecture.  With the 32-bit GRE in the Service Pack, functions have 
been split out into two new DLLs, and DISPLAY.DLL is now a MUCH smaller file.

Solution:  We have installed DISPLAY.DLL into a separate directory, and had
put that directory path into LIBPATH in front of C:\OS2\DLL.  Edit CONFIG.SYS
to remove this path from LIBPATH (i.e. C:\MYDISPLAY or equivalent is no longer
in LIBPATH), save the file, shutdown and re-boot.  The machine will come back
up in 640x480 mode.  If this is not what you want, in OS/2 System->System Setup
select Selective Install.  Select the box for Primary Display (even though it
already says Super VGA), and select Super VGA on the next screen.  You will
then be asked to insert the GA disks (6-15 for 3 1/2 media).  This will NOT
take long, all that gets read are some font files.  It will then ask for the
Display Adapter disks from the service pack, run SVGA ON to determine modes
supported by the card, and ask you which resolution you want.  Files will be
copied to the disk, and the procedure ends.  Shutdown and re-boot to get the 
new screen characteristics.

--
Regards,
Robert Gammon
(713)-274-3299       (voice)
(713)-274-2324       (fax)
From: warmuth@warmuth.wu-wien.ac.at
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: What is the recommended size for an OS/2 system-only partition?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 09:20:12 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Economics and Business Administration
NNTP-Posting-Host: warmuth.wu-wien.ac.at

In  <1992Dec15.204609.29849@msc.cornell.edu>  tommy@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Mike Thompson,332,54714,2734927) writes:
>    ... (stuff deleted)...
>   (3) Caching the OS/2 swapfile (HPFS) would be a waste of memory
>    ... (stuff deleted)...
OS/2 *never* chaches the swapfile.
It is recomanded to put the swapfile on the most used partition on the
less used harddisk. So I wouldn't put it in it's own partition.

Michael
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: calvert@QueensU.CA (John Calvert)
Subject: autoexec and config for DOS and OS/2 shells
Organization: Queen's University, Kingston, Canada
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:10:48 GMT

Ideally I'd like to have seperate config.sys and autoexec.bat files
for booting, shells, and applications under each of DOS and OS/2.
That would make a total of 6 files. So far I can find 4, but my DOS
shells don't have the full environment defined for them. I've set
the environment size to 2048 which is large enough when booted under
DOS.

Why isn't my environment, specifically the path, set up properly in
my OS/2 DOS shell?

I've tried the help files, but no help!

John Calvert
From: swee.cheng@freddy.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Swee Cheng) 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: IDE + SCSI HD & GA + SP,
Date: 11 Dec 92 17:38:00 GMT
Reply-To: swee.cheng@freddy.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Swee Cheng) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Freddy's Place BBS - Edmonton, AB - 403-456-4241

TO:All
MF>What I really wold like to know is :

MF>	are there _anyone_ at all there has been able to combine
MF>	the in subj. stated combinatiob to work ??
Yes, I do.

I do not know if your HOST adapter do support OS/2. The following are
my system configuration.

IPC 486-33DX 128k
1 IDE
2 SCSI with ALWAYS IN-2000 Host Adapter, no driver loaded.

No problem installing OS/2 and SP.
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From: dabl2@nlm.nih.gov (Don A.B. Lindbergh)
Subject: Re: a little yarn about Diamond Comp. Products
Keywords: Diamond suck s3 stealth antios2
Organization: National Library of Medicine
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 15:37:04 GMT

>While perusing hobbes (ftp-os2.nmsu.edu) in /pub/os2/2.0/drivers I came
>across a file called proii8.zip that mentioned something about Tseng
>4000 support.  So I downloaded it, read the docs as much as possible,
>did the installing specified, rebooted, and it worked!  My desktop came
>up in svga mode of 1024x768x256.  It appears to me to be very fine.
>

Fascinating!  This is the first news I've heard of ANY svga drivers working
with the Stealth.  They really shouldn't, it's not an Tseng 4000 lookalike
at all!  Did you do a 'SVGA ON' command and did it actually generate a .PMI
file?  Check out what kind of chip it thinks you have!?

--Don Lindbergh
dabl2@lhc.nlm.nih.gov
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: os2man@panix.com (Larry Salomon Jr.)
Subject: Re: IBM screws U again
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:56:02 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <hatton.724402476@cgl.ucsf.edu> hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton) writes:

>jks4675@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>>The Radius XGA-2 card will RETAIL (not "List") for $499 because IBM wants
>>to bleed Radius for licensing fees. Thus, IBM screws over Radius, who 
>>will lose a lot of sales (me, for one), the typical OS/2 customer who
>>wants a faster system, and themselves all at once.

>>IBM is to be congratulated on yet another brilliant marketing scheme.

>>This is clearly a good example why Windows NT presents such a threat to
>>the upper level OS market. Microsoft might just care about it's customers
>>(unlike Big Blue) and take out the market right out from under them.

>>Anybody know where I can get an NT beta???

>This is very sad - at about $250-300 it would probably have moved
>units like crazy. Oh, well. One more goof for the list. Perhaps 
>time will help get enough sold to bring down the price within a
>reasonable period. I'll limp along un-coprocessed until then.

Yeah, just like the cost of Microchannel hardware went down...NOT!

Cheers,
Q
-- 
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 still have made a choice" - Rush  |  on a T-shirt
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From: 5692330@mcimail.com  (Robert Gammon)
Subject: Re: Data Technology DTC3X80 ISA SCSI Driver for OS/2 2.0?
Nntp-Software: PC/TCP NNTP
Organization: Texas Instruments Materials and Controls Group
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:37:55 GMT

In article <1992Dec4.140422.20365@panix.com> os2man@panix.com (Larry Salomon Jr.) writes:

 >> What irony!  I just bought a developer's dream machine with everything I
 >> could possibly want (until they iron out the overheat problems with the 
 >> 50 and 66 MHz 486 :) .  However, I got a SCSI controller that I can't
 >> find a driver for.
 >> 
 >> According to their docs, they do have one, but when I looked at it, it
 >> appears to be for OS/2 1.3 and not OS/2 2.0 (the file was named DISK01.DTC
 >> and was supposed to be renamed to DISK01.SYS upon copying onto the 
 >> installation disks.  This is a 1.3 file, correct?).  Now, my 870M 12ms
 >> SCSI drive is slower than my granny because OS/2 disabled all interrupts
 >> and goes the the BIOS when it doesn't recognize the hard drive type.
 >> 
 >> Please help!  My machine is at a crawl!
 >> 
 >> Also, I plan to call Data Technology once the West coast wakes up this
 >> morning, but I seriously expect to learn more from this group than from
 >> them.
 >> 
 >> Cheers,
 >> Q

I called the DTC FAX response line yesterday, and got them to send me document
#501, DTC Controllers and IBM OS/2 2.0 Support.  The first paragraph reads as
follows:

   "The drivers which are part of and built into the IBM OS/2 2.0
    operating system will allow you to install and work with the
    following DTC controllers:

             DTC2190/2290
             DTC3150/3250
             DTC3180/3280AS
             DTC3190/3290AS/HD
             DTC3292
             DTC6282-24
             DTC6295-24

    ** NOTE ** DTC does not currently provide any specific driver for
    any of the above DTC controllers for IBM OS/2 2.0."

and the last paragraph on the page is as follows:

    "Is DTC in the process of developing specific drivers for IBM OS/2 2.0?
     DTC expects to offer OS/2 2.0 drivers for the DTC3280AS, DTC3290AS
     and DTC3292AS controllers in the near future but no fixed date has
     been set as to when they will be available.  1

    ---------

    1 A third party utility program kit called CorelSCSI provides CDROM,
    MO and other OS/2 drivers for SCSI adapters.  Corel currently is
    testing these drivers with DTC SCSI controllers.  Contact Corel for
    more information about their product."

What I see here is the the INT13 driver is what DTC expects us to use now,
and for enhanced support for devices other than HDD, contact Corel.

--
Regards,
Robert Gammon
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(713)-274-2324       (fax)

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From: lxl6767@usl.edu (Lerchaichanakul Luckchai)
Subject: Help me, please.
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 06:29:49 GMT


Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: nap42487@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Nishith A. Patel)
Subject: Re: Mix of 3-chip and 9-chip simms with OS/2
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 02:32:39 GMT

adhir@wam.umd.edu (Al Dhir) writes:

>OS/2 happens to excersize your RAM quite a bit harder than standard diagnostics
>programs like CHeckit.  RAM that checks out OK with CHeckit can easily choke
>up with OS/2 (and WIndows for that matter).

>Against my better judgement, I suggest again, that you install a new set of
>SIMMS.  I am willing to bet my reputation that the problem lies with your 
>memory.

I understand putting in new memory might solve the problem, but I am still
trying to figure out what kind of memory I should install. I can not simply ask
for working SIMMS, because they will tell me the memory works. But it might
not in OS/2. My problem is I can't ask for memory that "works," they will tell 
me it does. And so II can't xchange my "faulty" memory for some new memory
(which I wont know about OS/2 compatibility either) without having to pay for the
new memory.

So does anyone know what specifications or whatever I should look for?
I am a	already following the basic rules of not mixing chip numbers and 
different speed modules. Maybe if can point out that such and such type of 
memory works and the memory I received doesn't, they may exchange it. 


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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: "Stuck" Ctrl key
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 21:44:16 GMT

In article <724116323.AA00132@csource.oz.au> Paul.Thornett@f409.n711.z3.fidonet.org (Paul Thornett) writes:
>I've never managed to establish a predictable set of circumstances that cause
>this. But I do suspect XyWrite (a word processor, running under DOS, that
>contains an almost completely soft keyboard). And, if I remember in time <g>,
>pressing the left ALT, SHIFT and CTRL keys all at the same time seems to avoid
>the problem (but obviously I can't prove this negative).

There are two DOS Settings which let you restrict the ability of DOS
programs to directly tamper with the keyboard.  You may or may not
find these useful in taming XyWrite.

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Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
of Chicago, 60637       | [Read the List, THEN post to ONE OS/2 newsgroup.]
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