HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown)
Subject: Re: TDK is like Chevrolette
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 15:27:40 GMT

In article <183i5uINNmd2@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bs810@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (D. Eric Nay) writes:
>
>I remember this, in particular a bumper sticker that said "I'd rather push
>my Chevy than drive a Ford"  or was it the other way around? 

Had to be the other way around, you know "Found On Road Dead" or "Fix
Or Repair Daily".

Of course everyone knows Pontiac's ruled:-) :-) :-)

Note ODC above:-) :-) :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>|<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 
>TODD|-ODD-|:-)                   |         Nothing Left To Do But  <
>brown@sunspot.sunspot.noao.edu  /|\             :-) :-) :-)        <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/ | \<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
From: STAFFORD@hycad5.dnet.hac.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Great 1992 shows.
Date: 2 Sep 92 02:06:33 GMT
Reply-To: STAFFORD@hycad5.dnet.hac.com
Organization: The Internet

Saturday, May 30, 1992.  Las Vegas, NV
Weather was fantastic. Healy had the sound dialed in. Space>Spanish Jam
was a nice suprise.  IMHO  Jack         stafford@hycad5.dnet.hac.com
From: news@isc-br.isc-br.com (news user)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: THE DEADICATED II WHEEL
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:30:00 GMT
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

In article <1992Sep4.083528.3310@ducvax.auburn.edu> fvest@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:
>
>[Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:24:00 GMT] ADJS000 <ADJS@nmumus.bitnet> wrote:
>>I think we've had all possibilities entertained, and have completely
>>`round... so-- How about a CD made up of non-Dead bands, playing non-
>>Dead tunes???;)
>
>Wait a minute here's a novel idea...How about a CD of Dead songs played by
>the Dead. :-)
>
 Taking it one step back, How about a CD of Dead Songs played by Netheads.


 Examples

John Wood       Catfish John
Norma Sax       Sunrise
Glen Russel     Sugaree
Eagle           I know you Rider
David Gans      Playing In The Band
Wrat            WharfRat


 No really except for Glen and David I dont know how many of these people
actually play, But what ever happened to the Netheads recordings that was
being discussed awhile back.


Lennie Carlberg
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From: lw24lag@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (peter lavallee)
Subject: Tape ID: 6/24/90
Organization: Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:56:40 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-12137]: rs1.tcs.tulane.edu

I have a tape labelled only with the above date:

Box-->
Estimated-->
He's Gone
etc.

Our Deadbase IV doesn't cover this show (time for a new one?),
so could someone please e-mail the town/venue info to me?

Thanks,

pjl

--
Peter J. Lavallee		: "Live free or die."
lw24lag@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu	:          -- Major Gen. John Stark
From: mike@inti.lbl.gov (Michael Helm)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Inspiration, not Deadication
Date: 1 Sep 1992 23:44:08 GMT
Organization: N.I.C.E.
Reply-To: mike@inti.lbl.gov (Michael Helm)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.128.82

Jonathan Kiparsky writes:
>Wang Dang Doodle and Smokestack Lightning, as well as Little Red Rooster,
>Down in the Bottom(which I understand the boys have done- "Meet me in the
>bottom, bring me my running shoes..." sound familiar?), Spoonful, and maybe
>others that I've forgotten are Howling Wolf tunes, mostly written by Willie
>Dixon

Yeah, mostly, except Spoonful & some of the others are really blues
standards & go way back. Down in the Bottom is another form of Walking
Blues (this song is like a spectrum).  I think "Rooster" is a standard
too but I can't think of anything that connects it somebody else, just
a feeling...  maybe that one is a Dixon original too.

>and harder to find(and recognize when you do find them). Death Don't Have No
>Mercy is a Gary Davis tune, it can be found on his album "Pure Religion", 

Death Don't predates Davis ... he learned it from a Blind Willie Johnson
record & rearranged it for his style.  There are other forms of this
song in the spiritual & gospel tradition.  Same for S & D.  Incidentally
Gary Davis also did a "Spoonful" but it's very different from the
Wolf's (who was a generation younger & from a diff't part of the
country).
From: glambert@pyramid.com (George Lambert)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: From the vaults
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:31:00 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology

In article <1992Sep1.100506.7327@lut.ac.uk> lbfp@lut.ac.uk (Frank Parry) writes:
>On the up side of Jerry's illness - if that is not a contradiction
>in terms, does the fact that a certain D. Healy having more time on 
>his hands while not doing concerts mean that we can expect more and 
>speedier work done on the Vault series? Here's hoping!
>
Dan Healy update:  One of the projects Dan is working on is a new live album
for the group Zero.  He is to be the producer, and the recording sessions will
be held, I believe, October 14, 15, and 16 at the Great American Music Hall
in San Francisco.  Special guests at these gigs include Merl Saunders, Vince
Welnick, Nicky Hopkins, Bobby Vera and one other I can't recall.  The album
will focus on the new Robert Hunter/Zero collaborative song efforts (which are
very nice IMHO), and new Zero instrumentals.

The Dead - Zero connection seems to be getting firmer and firmer. :-)

Can't help you on any OFTV info, but my candidate would be the Denver run
from December 1990.

Now you know

George Lambert
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From: IWS%ssmic@cdfq.ssd.ray.com
Subject: maxell vs. tdk prices
Reply-To: IWS%ssmic@cdfq.ssd.ray.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 13:42:56 GMT

Tape prices at Uncle's on Canal Street in NYCity run about
$1.49 for Maxell XLII 90's, and about $1.79 for XLII 100's.
I think their XLIIS 90's are about $1.99.  The comparable
TDK tapes are about 20% higher (SA vs XLII or SAX vs XLIIS).

Stereo Discount Center in Providence, RI is selling Maxell XLII
90's this week for $1.39 - must buy 10 (bfd!) and max of 20 :-(
When they have a TDK sale, it is higher...

It looks, from what you guys have posted, that tape prices do vary 
from area to area in this great land of ours.  I'm pretty sure the 
Maxell tapes that Uncle's and SDC _sold_ (up to about a year ago) were 
not for the USA market - slightly different wording on the packaging, 
but same tape inside.  They _now_ both sell USA market tapes, because 
all their tapes come with the Max points stickers.  
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From: lw24lag@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (peter lavallee)
Subject: Re: Pig's famous undecipherable line (was: Re: Surrealists)
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-14989]: rs1.tcs.tulane.edu
Organization: Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:20:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.214014.11777@news.Hawaii.Edu> jdlb@mamane.ifa.hawaii.edu writes:
>
>|> rbalko@attmail.com (FTLFTA) writes:
>|> |> 
>|> |> ODC: ON Live Dead, Lovelight, what does Pig say ?
>|> |> Sounds kinda like : "She's got bops bat bidday, great biga ogre thighs
>|> |> Workin undercover in the ole coal mine...
>
>witchel@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Emmett Jethro Witchel) writes:
>|> 	She's got [[ fox back nitty ]] <-- Don't quite have this
>|> 	Grape pickin on the vine
>|> 	Working under cover with her 
>|> 	Boy all night
>
>Are you sure about that second line?  I hear it as "great big and oversized."
>
>
>   % Jeff de La Beaujardiere % jdlb@mamane.ifa.hawaii.edu %
>   % Institute for Astronomy %        808-956-9843        %
>   %  University of Hawai`i  %        fax 956-9402        %

Pig's finest moment, IMHO.  I also can't understand half of it,
but I believe it's "Workin' undercover with the FBI."

Jeff's name has inspired me to sign off,

P.-J. Pasquier de Lavalle'e

--
Peter J. Lavallee		: "Live free or die."
lw24lag@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu	:          -- Major Gen. John Stark
From: mattb@ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Quayles Council Stops Smoking Bans!
Date: 27 Aug 92 21:12:24 GMT
Reply-To: mattb@olympus.ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Organization: Cabletron Systems INc.

(Todd Brown) writes:
>(Matt Brown) writes:
>>(my previous ranting deleted)
>>Why, if it wasn't for President Bush protecting us with his vetoes, who knows
>>what kind of liberal anti-family slavery laws Hilary Clinton would have 
>>gotten passed by a corrupt congress back in the 70s when she was doing all
>>the things a nice girl like Marilyn Quayle wouldn't dream of doing.

(had to leave this part in.  I love the smell of Marilyn Quayle in the
 morning. Or was that napalm?)

>>Matt
>>(Do I get that speechwriting job now, Mr. Buchanan.  Please, please?)  
>
>I hope I'm missing the smilies here Matt, is this for real?

Gee, I thought "esteemed president" was a dead giveaway, and no smilies were
needed.  I guess after the Republican Convention, our sarcasm detectors have
been thrown out of synch and will need recalibration.  I am certainly having
difficulty separating the political right from the hysterical right.

Matt
I also thought that asking Buchanan for a speechwriting job was a giveaway
as well.  This post obviously isn't right-wing enough for Pat.
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From: chipc@genghis.borland.com (Chip Clofine)
Subject: Re: Bobby's nodes
Originator: chipc@genghis.borland.com
Organization: Borland International, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 03:54:31 GMT

> 
>=>did i hear that bobby was getting the nodes removed from his vocal
>=>chords?
> 
>How will Bobby be able to sing without nodes on his vocal cords.
>You need both nodes and anti-nodes to have a standing wave don't you?
>This smacks of crimes against nature!

the nodes nose!
From: lip@felina.Eng.Sun.COM (Philo)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: DEAD PHISH:')
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:08:50 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: felina

In article <1992Sep4.145355.28232@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> luannv@microsoft.com writes:
>|>PS Phish is better than the dead...
>|Maybe, if they practice for 25yrs. They might get close.
>
>I sure am glad there's a band like Phish around now that's as good as the
>Dead were in the mid '70's. 

When I read this I had to laugh!  It's amazing how opinions differ.  
And in IMHO, Phish wouldn't be qualified to tune the guitars of the Dead
in the mid '70's.

Please - no flames.  I really am glad that you've found another group you
can really dig.  I'm still lookin'...

-lip
From: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: On giving adequate return
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:01:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: unisql.3603
Reply-To: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1992Sep2.205547.20215@news.acns.nwu.edu> tindall@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mike Tindall) writes:
>  |Wharfie- you don't tip at a soup kitchen- you take out the
>garbage or wash the dishes- pass out a few free cigarettes-

	There is no such thing as a closed system, where you add a certain
amount of energy at the very beginning and no more is needed for as long
as the system runs.  Consider the "soup kitchen system".  The "energy"
needed to run the system is represented by the supply of food, people to
cook it and serve it, and people to clean up afterwards.  Of these three
manifestations of energy, the only one not readily replaceable is the supply
of food.  No matter how many people come to cook and clean, unless there is
food the system stops.  Food is also the most precious element in the sense
that it requires money or barter to obtain.  Cleaning, on the other hand,
seems to be a less precious resource, in the sense that it is easily
available from the very people consuming the more precious and less renewable
resource of food.

	It seems to me that removing a precious non-renewable resource
from a system while replacing it with common "cheap" resources that by 
themselves cannot fuel the system disturbs the balance and will eventually
cause the system to fail.  The Native American cultures for the most part
were part of the balance whereas the cultures that replaced them extract
precious nonrenewable resources while replacing them with cheap substitutes.
The problems with the Dead scene are due in a great part to the actions of
many new arrivals who consumed the resources of good will, sharing, and
freedom while contributing only the common, cheap, and poor substitution of
more good vibes for the big party.

	If a person cannot add energy to a system it seems that to maintain
the very system they are participating in they should at least make every
attempt not to distrub the balance of that system.  If you eat a man's food
and you have food of your own then it seems right to return the gift rather
than offer to sweep the crumbs off the floor on your way out.

					"We can share what we got of yours
					 cause we done shared all of mine..."
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From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Subject: Re: Lazy Lightning
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:39:48 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.205547.20215@news.acns.nwu.edu>,
tindall@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mike Tindall) writes:
>  So this Lara cat at Stanford opens up telling me he wants
>to dump Leadville tailings and Rocky Flats crap in Wyoming
>since it's the least populous state.  He's an expert on this
>having lived in Gillette for two years. (I was born in Gillette)

(-% *She* can understand these lame ravings - anyone who
was defecated upon so much at birth as to be born in Wyoming, let
alone Gillette, can't be expected to know simple facts like:  lara
is a woman's name.


>DON'T BUY BLACK HILLS GOLD noise because he cites the Ft.
>Laramie treaty of 1868 [mercifully edited]

(-%  GOTCHA! yurself.  I know about red cloud and i know that he was
forced to sign the treaty to bring 'peace' to his people, and I know
that our wonderful government set about violating the treaty that
they insisted he sign before the blood, that is ink, was dry.  Does
this mean to you that any of this was okay?  almost sounded like you
were admitting that you agree and that a grievous injustice was done
to the ab-original inhabitants.  Naaaaaaaaaa, makes too much sense.

>because we didn't design the mother
>f*cker- we just fly it.

>-% the lamest rationalization I've encountered recently, and that's
saying something.

>Besides that, Wovoka was right and
>WE'RE BAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!
(-% too bad you weren't back in time to prevent Wounded Knee: all
those who were killed there believed that Wovoka was right.

>  EEEHHHHAAAAAWWWWWWWWWW!!!

>-%  God, I just felt my I.Q. go down 10 points for responding to
this drivel.

>is a manifestation of the Spirit and can't be owned!  That's
>all that Fedralist White Man's Law crap about owning and
>protecting property.  White Man's Law forced the aboriginal
>inhabitants of the continent to sign meaningless documents.
>And White Man's Law insisted some asshole sign for the Lakota
>Nation.  The only person Red Cloud could sign that treaty for
>was Red Cloud.

(-%  Next time you might decide whether you agree or disagree before
wasting so much bandwidth :>:>:>

  I really wanted to make Pine Ridge Sun Dance, and/or Red Cloud
Heritage days (whatever they called it - it's on my PowWow calendar
but don't have handy) but another year.  I'll certainly look forward
to seeing you there and matching wits.  See that you have some by
then !

lara

>OOPS!  ODC- Why do you think the family loved Barlow's ranch
>so much?

why do you think the Dead don't play there anymore?
From: METZ@vtvm2.bitnet (Mike Metzler)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: all these flames
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:48:46 GMT
Reply-To: METZ@vtvm2.bitnet
Organization: The Internet

I agree 100% with WRAT@UNIS.  If you *must* flame, try to do it with a
little creativity and intelligence.  The all-to-crass "You're an
asshole...No, *you're* an asshole" approach isn't much fun to do or
read over the net.  Eventually, the reason for the difference in
opinions gets lost in the misplaced emotions, and it becomes way too
personal.  Then, for the rest of us, it sounds like the "couple next
door" having another shouting match while we're tryin to hear this nice
song (insert your favorite one here).
   Flame if you must, but try to be more like a surgical laser than
a Molotov Cocktail!
BTW, Bill (WTR@MITRE.ORG) -- "Not even close"
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: F820DM00@avm.cc.fsu.edu
Subject: Re: shave and a haircut
Organization: Florida State University
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 13:04:33 EDT

Lets just hope that Jerry makes it back soon, regardless of how much he weighs
or how he decides to keep his hair.... although those are very scary thoughts..
. B$


------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
From: brust@i5120q.nrl.navy.mil (Joe Brust)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: shave and a haircut
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:12:08 GMT
Organization: NRL

I was jus' wunderin'

What would it do to your show if Jerry came back...

weighing 175?
clean shaven?
with contacts?
with a "regular boys" haircut?
with a flat top?
with a shaved head?
wearing a suit and tie (one of his of course)?

What if the whole band came back like that?

Ack!

I scared myself.

I think I'd have my eyes closed more than usual.

Then again, maybe some of this has happened before.  I've only been here
five years. :-)

Thoughts?

PS  Saw a good bumper sticker today...

        If the people lead
      The leaders will follow

Later					Joe
--
                                        /
Joe Brust                              /
Applied Ocean Acoustics Branch        ///
Naval Research Lab, Code 5124          /
Washington, D.C. 20375                /   fool me once, shame on you
brust@wave.nrl.navy.mil 202-767-2493 /    fool me twice, shame on me

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From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown)
Subject: Re:  Deadheads
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 17:52:38 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.043735.16271@seas.smu.edu> quaglia@seas.smu.edu (Bruce Quaglia) writes:
>I wrote:
>>>>|Give credit where credit is due- Abbey Hoffman (R.I.P<R.I.P.> coined this
>>>>|phrase and it was still the '80s when he said it. I believe his phrase
>>>>|was "under 30", but that was nearly 10 years ago.
>>>>
>Todd Brown Wrote:
>>>>You have just proved that you are under 20.

WRONG, please don't atribute this to me. I didn't say this. You are as
wrong here Bruce as you are in other respects but no need to waste
band width.

I believe that line should be credited to Steve-TOO, sorry Steve but
I don't want to be accused of stealing words that aren't mine :-)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>|<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 
>TODD|-ODD-|:-)                   |         Nothing Left To Do But  <
>brown@sunspot.sunspot.noao.edu  /|\             :-) :-) :-)        <
>dtodd@well.sf.ca.us            / | \                               <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>V<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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From: Tom Thumb
Subject: Re: Life after no field trip
Summary: The Porsche Guys' Wife
Organization: PictureTel Corporation
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:48:18 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.213530.2468@sunspot.noao.edu> brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.193821.7961@nntp.uoregon.edu> nsax.uoregon (Norma Sax) writes:
>> [ Great Story from Norma About a "rich" woman...cut here]
>>norma sax
>
>Grate story norma, now you got us all wondering. Who was that taxi
>lady?
>
:-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
Answer:
	THE PORSCHE Guy's WIFE!!! 

:-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)

chuckle...chuckle....

NOT too much warmth this OK......its really HOT outside

tom thumb

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From: howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John Howells)
Subject: TDK bashing
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 13:12:57 GMT

Hmmm. Interesting to see the TDK bashing going on because my experience
with many different brands of tapes (extensive, I think) has led me to
the conclusion that TDK SA-X is the best tape I've ever used - bar
none.  I have *never* *never* had a TDK tape fuck up, but have had a
(small) number of Maxell XL tapes get chewed, eaten, whatever - but
this was a fault of the deck I was using at the time. Thing is, my
faulty deck didn't chew any of my TDKs! Very sturdy mechanism, plus
superior sound overall. Also, as a testament to the durability of TDKs,
I have tapes that are 20 years old and they play just as fine today as
they did then.  Certainly can't say that about all the Scotch and
Memorex tapes I wasted money on. All of those have long since turned to
trash. And, yes my old Maxell tapes play just fine too. Both TDK and
Maxell make fine tapes. I just give the slight edge to TDK.  Where I
live, TDKs sell for the same price as Maxells, so that's no
consideration to my preference for TDKs.

Just one man's opinion...

--
                                        John Howells
                                        howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov 
                                        howells@earth.arc.nasa.gov
From: lb04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Laura Bassi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: shave and a haircut (AND MORE!)
Date: 3 Sep 92 13:59:06 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>In article <25966@dog.ee.lbl.gov>, mike@inti.lbl.gov (Michael Helm) writes:
>But the one of the most intriguing developments in Grateful Dead history
>would see this band take the stage come December:
>1.  Jerry shaved
>2.  Bobby growing back his beard
>3.  Phil putting some work on the ole mustache
>4.  and............. Mickey shaving his head again
>
>
>NOW THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING.
>
>
>
>GET WELL JERRY!
>
>!eric!

As for #2 above, how 'bout Bobby growing his HAIR back!
ditto and
ditto
peace,
laura
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: witchel@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Emmett Jethro Witchel)
Subject: Re: Pig's famous undecipherable line (was: Re: Surrealists)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: 2 Sep 92 12:17:45


Paul> In article <1992Sep1.162332.15879@cbnewsk.cb.att.com>, rbalko@attmail.com (FTLFTA) writes:
> |> 
> |> ODC: ON Live Dead, Lovelight, what does Pig say ?
> |> Sounds kinda like : "She's got bops bat bidday, great biga ogre thighs
> |> Workin undercover in the ole coal mine...

Paul> Ahhh!  The question that has haunted many Deadheads!  I sure
Paul> don't profess to know the "right" answer.  I know some folks who
Paul> intend this to be the first question when they run into Pig in
Paul> the great concert hall in the sky!

	She's got [[ fox back nitty ]] <-- Don't quite have this
	Grape pickin on the vine
	Working under cover with her 
	Boy all night

emmett
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