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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:47:37 EST
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: ALL WOMEN'S BB FANS - READ THIS!

   Okay, here's an attempt for all the women's basketball fans out there.
I'm going to attempt to create a list where I can e-mail the results of final
scores of the day to this list.  Then, what I'll be looking for is a
representive from each school to write a followup of their school's game.
Once we accomplish this, that person can reply to everyone on the list,
simply by hiiting the F5 button and everyone on this list will get the
followup of what happened during the game.  If this sounds like a good idea
and you sound interested in joining my list, want to be a contact for your
team, or have any suggestions, please e-mail me at rap115@psuvm.psu.edu.
I think this is a good way of staying caught up on all the teams, knowing what
really happened in a game, instead of reading a one paragraph summary in the
USA Today.
** Rob **
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: WANTED: Recruiting class rankings
Date: 15 Nov 92 21:26:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison

In article <Bxq0FB.FnD@news.cso.uiuc.edu> wlmg3055@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (William L. Myers) writes:
>
>Gibbons 'projected recruiting class rankings' published by a paper last wk.

>7 Wisconsin  7-0 Rashard Griffith (10), and others.

Is that like "and the rest" from Gilligan's Island?  Geeesh!
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Indiana All-Time Greats team -- need votes!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:12:18 GMT



	For those of U who didn't know, I need your votes for the All-
	Time Indiana team!  I have about 5 votes so far.  Thanx...

	Jazzy J

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From: sms35849@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott M. Stortzum)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Women's Basketball?
Date: 18 Nov 92 23:59:40 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

My girlfriend is a cheerleader here at the U of Illinois
and will be cheering at all of the Women's B-ball games.  She
wishes to know if all other basketball fanatics hate Women's 
B-ball like myself and countless friends.  She wants to know
what the big difference is between the two - she believes 
B-ball is B-ball, no matter who is participating.  We (myself
and others) have tried to explain our perspectives to her, but
she wants unbiased opinions of total strangers.

I hope I become a fan quick, 'cause I'LL be at all of the games
:-P


Later days, and cheers to Lou Henson for bringing in a top 10
recruiting class like he promised!!

Scott 
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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Big 10 gets BIG Centers
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:20:17 CST

With 7'1" Rashard Griffith signing at Wisconsin, 7'2" Matt Tem Dam signing
with Purdue, and this 7'3" Hamilton monster signing with Illinois, the Big
10 looks like it is going to have some mighty big centers roaming in the
paint.  Wow!  
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
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From: Curt.Hill@launchpad.unc.edu (Curt Hill)
Subject: Re: Big 10 gets BIG Centers
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:21:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.162017.6936@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>With 7'1" Rashard Griffith signing at Wisconsin, 7'2" Matt Tem Dam signing
>with Purdue, and this 7'3" Hamilton monster signing with Illinois, the Big
>10 looks like it is going to have some mighty big centers roaming in the
>paint.  Wow!  


Er, "roam" might be too strong of a word here, Brian.

I believe all of these gentlemen make Eric Montross look like the Shaq
when it comes to footspeed.

However, Hamiliton might prove an effective deterrent to IU's heaving
screening game.  The chance of having to screen a 300+lb center doesn't
make too many players happy.  Or healthy.


In regards to ex-collegiate centers, I'm glad Shaq was nice to the rest of
the players in his career at LSU.  If he'd have used some of the moves he's
shown in the NBA in college, he'd have had 60pts  and 25 reb per game.  A
true sportsman, that Shaq.


Curtis Hill
star3!walt!chill@mcnc.org

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From: gritter@cs.purdue.edu (Carl R. Gritter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Purdue scholarships
Date: 18 Nov 1992 22:11:44 -0500
Organization: Purdue University Department of Computer Sciences
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In article <1992Nov18.184453.4326@oakhill.sps.mot.com>, duane@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Duane Cripe) writes:

|> I don't mean to sound cold, however, why is Keady granting scholarships to
|> Painter & Darner?  I have never been impressed with their play, and I don't
|> see how they are going to positively impact the team.

I can see your argument in Painter's case but Darner?  Sure Darner is slow
and is a slight liability on defense.  He will never be a star but he is a
solid fundamental player who doesn't make many mistakes.  He is a decent
(but not great) shooter and handles the ball pretty well.  He knows the
game and plays within himself.  During the recent game against the Hustlers
he and Glenn Robinson executed the best fast break of the night (resulting
in a Robinson slam).  When Keady asked Darner to be the point guard at the
end of last year, I shuddered.  However, he did a decent job.  Not
spectacular, but a good workmanlike performance.  He'll play if only because
Keady loves players like the one I've just described.  Darner is not a team
captain as a junior by accident.

Painter's another story.  He showed plenty of promise (especially as a passer)
as a freshman but has regressed.  He's an enigma to the fans as well as Keady.
He has his good moments but there are plenty of bad ones to keep him on the
bench.

Carl
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From: rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann)
Subject: Tennessee dumps Rutgers
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:18:32 GMT
Keywords: Houston


Rutgers jumped out to an early 19-6 lead and then self destructed
under an avalanche of treys.  Tennessee shot 11 for 20 from 3-point land
while dear old RU was 6 for 24.  The final was Tennessee 87, Rutgers 79.
The game hinged on each team's star guards.  Houston of Tennessee poured
in 7 for 11 long distance bombs and wound up with 27 points while
Rutgers' Steve Worthy was 1 from 7 long distance, and wound up with 15 pts.


-- 
"Listen up son, and pay attention.   |  Bob Dieckmann (rwd@quartet.att.com)
How ya' gonna learn anything if you  |  GO: Mets (& dear old Rutgers)
always got your head in a book?"     |  I probably should've included smileys.
                -- Foghorn Leghorn   |  **usual disclaimer**
From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Wisconsin Loses Exhibition Opener
Date: 19 Nov 1992 20:54:55 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
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Keywords: suck, puke, vomit, gag, hurl, airball, Yoder, Billy_Douglass

In article <1992Nov17.225655.8878@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>
>Russian National Team:  87
>Wisconsin:              81
   
   When I saw this score, I nearly tossed my cookies. Marquette beat the
   Russians 98-59 just a night earlier.

>Wisconsin SUCKS!!!  
   
   It would seem so after seeing this score, but I doubt if they're as bad
   as they looked.

>Thoughts:
>
>Wisconsin was really rusty with the shooting.  They went, I believe, 6-29
>from 3-point land.  Bobby Knight would have had a heart attack.  Tracy
>Webster, who was in the top 3 of, and may have led, the Big Ten in 3-point
>shooting, went 0-(something teen) from 3-point territory.  Yikes! 
   
   Or as Shaggy might say in a fit of terror (just like I was after seeing
   this score), Zoikes! The Webster 3-point stat leads me to believe that
   UW won't play this bad again as I can't see Webster taking an 0-fer-
   double digits again this season.

>I was not impressed with Stu Jackson's "blazing speed" offense.  It stunk.

   After the game, Jackson said that the team reverted back to Yoder's
   ingrained slow-down offense a lot all night. Passing the ball inside,
   then not pumping it back out quickly for the wide-open 3.

The quick, slashing" defense led to a lot
>of easy Russian baskets in the first half, as the gambling led to a lot of
>open men.  In the 2nd half, it got a bit better, but that was after the
>Russian point guard fouled out.
   
   Until UW gets its defensive scheme down, the Badgers could be in for
   some pretty ugly looking scores.

>So much for all the people excited about the "new-look" Badgers. 

   Yeah, this is basically the SAME team that pretty much sucked last year.
   And with practices cut down two weeks, it will probably be a little
   tougher for the team to get Jackson's ideas down and get on the same
   wavelength. Still, I think that by the end of the year, UW will be much
   better than they were last year. It will take awhile for the team to
   gel probably. I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that it doesn't take
   about 2 or 3 years :)

   --salty
From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: UK-Texas Western (was: Another All-Time team
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:38:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: ms.1992Nov17.113853.52
Organization: Austerlitz, Gershovitz, and Carmichael

> The starters for that team were
>
> C - Thad Jaracz
> F - Pat Riley
> F - Larry Conley (a good player but lousy broadcaster IMHO)  
> G - Tommy Kron
> G - Louie Dampier
>-- 
I don't know of any championship team that was better loved than this
group which came up short. The improbability of a championship from
a team which measured 6'5" (Kron and Jaracz), 6'3 (Riley and Conley),
and 6' 0" (generously measured; Dampier) was so attractive that
it seemed to be a metaphor for the state: its backwardness and
poverty etc. (The later reports of Rupp's rather nasty remarks
about Texas Western have tarnished that memory, but don't really need
one more rehashing.) The loss to Duke last year was like misplacing
one's car keys in comparison. Of course, since I was 15 and just really
starting to follow sports that didn't help much. 

The funny thing about the team was that they ran 2 plays: a weave out 
front and a back door kind of play. And they ran at every opportunity. 
The weave worked for 1 reason: Dampier. As his name implied, Louie was
a Damn-pure shooter. The story goes that when Rupp made his scouting trip 
on Louie as a high school senior that Rupp only stayed for the first half: 
Dampier had gone something like 10-11. Had the 3 pt shot been in place, 
Dampier would have averaged about 30 pts a night. 

As a query, what were the heights of the Walt Hazzard-Gail Goodrich
champs for UCLA. If I remember right, they weren't very tall either.
-- 
Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu> My bad.     
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From: suffridge@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Rick Suffridge)
Subject: Re: Raucous crowds 
Organization: NCR MCPD Columbia SC.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 15:51:32 GMT

jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
: 
: 	Not to say that it's just the ACC -- the SEC has had some pretty
: 	rowdy crowds over the years.  For instance, when UK was under
: 	investigation back in the 88-89 season, whenever they would visit
: 	an opposing arena, the fans would wave ACT bulletings (in reference
: 	to Eric Manual) and throw Emery packages onto the floor.  I also
: 	remember when Dwayne Schintzius once got into trouble for hitting
: 	a guy over the head w/ a tennis racket.  At the Florida/Vandy
: 	game, the fans threw tennis balls onto the court!  A technical foul
: \	was called, and if I remember correctly, it ended up being crucial
: 	in the contest.
: 

  The incident at Vandy cost them the SEC championship I believe.  If memory
  serves correctly, the incident occurred with seconds left in the game with
  Vandy holding a slim lead.  The technical free throws tied the game and 
  sent it into overtime.  Florida then won the game in OT.  They ended the 
  season winning the conference by 1 game over Vandy I believe, so if Vandy
  had won they would have tied for the league title.
-- 
Richard D. Suffridge   803-791-6491  <suffridge@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM>                                  
From an AP report:  Gore ... asked voters skeptical of their promise of
change to remember that every communist government in Eastern Europe had
fallen in 100 days. "Now it's our turn here in the United States," he said.
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: UCLA wins
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:50:30 GMT

Well UCLA began the season with an uninspiring 68-54 win over St. Louis
University last night.

Richard Petruska led the Bruins with 21 points and 9 reounds, and Tyus
Edney chipped in with 16 points and 4 assists. No other Bruin reached
double figures. I didn't see the game but either Shon Tarver didn
play, or he had an incredibly quiet game since he isn't in the boxscore.
O'Bannon had 8, Dempsey and Nwankwo were scoreless and fellow freshman
Marquis Burns had 5 including a 3 pointer. UCLA was only 13-23 from 
the fouline. St. Louis shot only 42% for the game.

Next up in the NIT is UTEP, I don't know much about this years Miner's
squad, but they are always good so this should be a tough test for the
young Bruins. Hopefully Tarver will play in this game on Friday(is he
hurt?).

Russ Smith

Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: hatch@gandalf.nosc.mil (Mark D. Hatch)
Subject: Re: UCLA wins
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:47:37 GMT

In article <57010@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith) writes:
>Well UCLA began the season with an uninspiring 68-54 win over St. Louis
>University last night.

[Description of the game deleted]

>Next up in the NIT is UTEP, I don't know much about this years Miner's
>squad, but they are always good so this should be a tough test for the
>young Bruins. 

Being stuck here in San Diego, where news on WAC teams is minimal, despite
the fact that SDSU is a WAC school, I don't know much about this year's
Miner squad either.  I doubt we'll be as tough as we were last year, having
lost center David Van Dyke, power forward Marlon Maxey, and guard Prince
Stewart to graduation.  Maxey and Van Dyke were definitely our two best
players, and a strong case can be made that Stewart was our third best
player.

The Miner's best player should be returning starting point guard Eddie
Rivera.  Eddie is quick, a great ball handler, a good passer and defender,
and a streaky shooter.  When he's on he is unstoppable.  Eddie was our
leading scorer last night with 22 points.  The other returning starter
is Johnny "Smooth" Melvin, who is a streaky scorer with a mediocre to 
poor outside jump shot.

The other backcourt player will probably be a choice between the pathetic
Gym Bice and a 6'3" guard from (I think) Illinois who sat out last year
(either redshirt or Prop 48).  If Bice starts, the Bruins have nothing
to worry about.

In the frontcourt, 6'8" Roy Howard should start.  Roy is a decent defender
and rebounder, but not much of an offensive player.  He is better suited
to the role of backup center/power forward, but will probably start.  
The other starting center/power forward will probably be Hector Gonzalez,
a 6'8" juco transfer.  I know nothing about him, but the preseason mags
seem to think that he should be able to contribute.  Ralph Davis, a 6'5" 
Junior who, like Melvin, is also very streaky, will see time at both
forward positions.  Their are other new players in both the frontcourt
and backcourt, but I know nothing about them.

As I have not yet seen the boxscore for last night's game (the San Diego
Union-Tribune only includes the boxscores for Top 25 teams and local teams),
I do not know who started, who played, and how they did (with the exception
of Rivera).  I anyone has a copy of that boxscore, please post it or email
it to me.

All in all, this team is loaded with question marks.  The only clear
advantage we have over the Bruins is at coach.  Don Haskins is a great
coach, while Harrick is mediocre at best.  Hopefully Coach Haskins can
lead this team back to the NCAA tourney, but it's not going to be easy.

>Russ Smith

							Mark Hatch
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From: n9ljx@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Scott A Stembaugh)
Subject: Re: 30 sec. clock, 6 fouls, 128 team tourny.
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 03:12:59 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.201319.14655@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day) writes:
>In article <1992Nov13.191512.26868@hubcap.clemson.edu>  
>grimlok@hubcap.clemson.edu (Mike Percy) writes:
>
>
>> > 6 fouls? did not seem to make the big east games
>> > any more exciting.
>>  
>> Agree.  Five fouls makes coaches and players work.

I like the idea of giving an extra foul to all players that have not fouled
out at the start of the first OT. 

--sas

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: bewillia@mothra.syr.EDU (Brad "Boomer" Williams)
Subject: Re: Who is the worst ref?
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 12:34:18 EST

In article <1992Nov12.210223.20749@anasaz> hulda@anasaz (Hulda R. Dent) writes:
>
>The worst ref in the NBA is the guy wearing the black and white
>striped shirt and balc (oops, backspace key is gone) lblack pants.
>YOu know the one!

	Huh?  When did the NBA go to back to black and white striped shirts? I
thought they got rid of those in the '60s.  Maybe I've been watching a 
different NBA.

>Hub
>

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From: beegle@ftp.phy.uab.edu (Earthbound)
Subject: Re: Exhibition Teams
Organization: University of Alabama at Birmingham
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:35:57 GMT

In article <matthew.722039696@base.cs.ucla.edu> matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher) writes:
>I was noticing some of the exhibition teams playing this year.  This is a
>partial list, gleaned from today's LA Times scores:
>

	[stuff deleted]

>Companies:
>    Marathon Oil                2 teams (at least)!
>    Lee Jeans

Lee Jeans played here the other night and I was surprized to see 
former sooner Tim McCalaster(My spelling is abismal) playing on the team.
Does anyone know of anyother players playing for other exhibition teams
of note?

>
>Military:                       Love to see these two play
>    Fort Sill (Oklahoma)
>    Army SC, Moscow
>
>
>Ethereal Objects:
>    Spirit Express
>    Sons of Blue Angels        What's next "Sons of the Hell's Angels"?
>
>and either Virginia Intermont or C. Bennett.  
>I assume C. Bennett is a school and Va. Intermont isn't, but who knows?
>--
>
>Matthew Merzbacher	ARPA:	matthew@CS.UCLA.EDU
>Moo - Moo Moo  		UUCP:	...!{uunet|rutgers|ucbvax}!cs.ucla.edu!matthew
>               		This time, *with* the oys


-- 
Luke

	"I don't feel so good."	
				Last words of Luther Burbank
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From: ewstroup@cc.utah.edu (ERIC W. STROUP)
Subject: Re: UTAH news
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: 23 Nov 1992 11:28 MST  

In article <20NOV199212255652@cc.utah.edu>, ewstroup@cc.utah.edu (ERIC W. STROUP) writes...
{The Utes kicked off the season against the Slovenian Jr.National team.  The
{poor Slovaks had played three games in the three nights prior to the game at
      ^^^^^^^


OOOOPS.  I stuck my foot in my geographically deficient mouth.  A close friend
(even though he is from doook) became incensed at my mistake of describing
the Slovenians as Slovaks.  There is a big difference.  I appoloigize to 
anyone on the net who may have been offended.



{ 
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-Eric