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From: ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz)
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Subject: Re: DS9 possible error (Spoilers)
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:25:22 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1993Jan7.004125.296@hubcap.clemson.edu> charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV) writes:

[Why didn't the ship in the battle with the Borg disengage the saucer section?]

>An emergency.  Perhaps there was no time to dump off the non-personnel.
>(The big E didn't have the time either, if you recall from BOBW)

Not the case.  In Best of Both Worlds II, the admiral who promoted Riker to
captian told him that all possible ships were being sent to engage the Borg
at Wolf 359.  If they were planning on engaging there, they obviously had
enough time to seperate the saucer section.

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From: bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
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Subject: Re: Transporting thru shields? (The shields weren't up!)
Date: 8 Jan 93 12:17:52 -0800
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In article <1993Jan8.194243.26995@mtu.edu>, destill@mtu.edu (Still) writes:
> 	If you'll remember, there was a TNG episode where O'Brian transported
                                    "The Wounded"
> himself through the shields of another Federation ship.  The captian (O'Brian's
> former CO) was about to attack a Cardassian ship.  Now the ship that Scottie
> and Geordi were on (can't remember the name) was 80 years older, had minimal
                       The Genolan
> power, and was about to collapse anyway due to the force of the Dyson sphere
> doors.  I think that the great transporter wizard O'Brian would be able to
> transport our heroes through the ships shields under those conditions, IMHO.
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From: hunter@phoenix.apana.org.au (James Gardiner)
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Subject: Re: Replacement for Picard
Date: 6 Jan 1993 11:30:06 +1000
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I think Riker should become captain because it can bring more
character to the Characters.
Captain Kirk was a Womanizing, power hungry man.  Ie had some real
life qualities.  ST:TNG characters are just too nice.  Because of this
the characters are very uninteresting.
We need some bad qualities in the crew to make them more interesting.

Riker would be a good start.  a young Captain, usually more foolish, could
make for some interesting plots.


James
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From: msmallwo@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (M. Lee Smallwood)
Subject: Re: Vulcan Captain??? (Major Mistake!!!)read 17396
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Richmond)
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 00:26:45 GMT

Yes, but wouldn't that mean that Spok would have twins, too?
One could be all human and the other all vulcan. Or maybe just
a mix...

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From: hillel@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (hillel.e.markowitz)
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Subject: Re: Deep Space 9 review -- Wow!
Date: 5 Jan 93 16:50:13 GMT
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In article <1ib2ioINNbv8@mirror.digex.com> cary@access.digex.com (Cary R. Stephan) writes:
>Well, what to say?  It was GREAT!  I won't bore anyone with a review,
>spoilers, etc. but I will say that the story is good, the FX great, and
>the characters interesting (I'm anxious to see how the actors will grow
>into their roles--and vice versa).
>
>One note of interest: in the first Cardassian ST:TNG episode O'Brien had
>two full pips, in DS9 he wears one half pip.
>
>Gene Roddenberry would be proud of this new show; it is very impressive.  
> 
>

Another note of interest.  In one of the crowd scenes a young male
figure is seen walking by in the crowd at the casino.  His uniform
was black with red shoulders (command) and he looked familiar.

(Spoiler protection just in case)

It seemed to be Whil Wheaton.  This was in the scene where Quark
first reopens the casino.
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From: cboerm48@ursa.calvin.edu (Christopher Boerma)
Subject: Re: mumblings on DS9 pilot
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:52:34 GMT

lopresti@henson.cc.wwu.edu (lopresti robert) writes:



>SPOILERS AHEAD....













>RIGHT DOWN THERE




>Well, it was okay.  If SHADES OF GRAY or SPOCK'S BRAIN is a 1 and
>AMOK TIME or YESTERDAY'S ENTERPRISE is a 10, then EMISSARY was a 5 or
>a 6.

Hmm, I'd say more along the lines of an 8 or 9.

>The sets, effects and make-up were very good (although I am awfully
>tired fo the definition "an alien is a human being with a bad
>acne problem."

What the heck are you going to do? You can't have to many no human looking
characters basically because most actor's fall in the human catagory.

>The acting was...uhh...varied.  I was uncomfortable with Avery
>Brooks acting at the beginning, but I was getting used to him as it went on.
>Rene what's his name as Odo was quit egood, but has anyone asked the
>obvious question?  If he can be any shape, why does he choose to look
>like a freak?  As my wife put it, why doesn't he choose to look
>like Patrick Stewart?

Well I must say I rather liked Brooks. He seemed to play a very good
character. Like he didn't want to be at DSN at all!, but he was going
to do his best job he could anyways.

I wonder the same thing about Odo. But maybe due to the fact that so 
many humanoid species comethru the station, he choose something that was
closest to everybeing.
 
>The two females left me unimpressed.  O'Brien was as wooden as usual.
>And god I hate to say this BUT...Quark was pretty good.  He had a
>quality one doesn't usually associate with Ferengi: dignity.  When he
>said "when governments fall people like me are lined up against a wall
>and shot," I believed he meant it.  

I wasn't real impressed with Dax, but maybe that's cause my male ego was
getting in the way of seeing a intellagent female, or maybe I was just
a little shaken my the whole worm bit (to quote my girlfriend on that
subject: "Gross!!"). But there's potiental there. Major Kira on the other
hand REALLY impressed me. She was very good, better than any Ro I've
seen. I though O'Brien did quite well to. It was a little odd seeing him 
do more than just Transporting, but he was still good.

		CtB
From: gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang)
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Subject: Re: Replacement for Picard
Date: 5 Jan 1993 18:23:05 GMT
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In article <C0E0LK.4sF@csn.org> pmichals@teal.csn.org (Paul Michals) writes:
>JC924@uacsc2.albany.edu writes:
>: Another solution is to broaden the venue of ST:TNG to include more starships
>: than just the Enterprise.
>You bring up an interesting point (and perhaps a long term solution if
>Paramount wants to keep TNG going-and I'm sure they do). I can see TNG
>evolving into a sort of anthology series

	I don't.

 where we see Federation life from
>many different perspectives. The only caveat is that people generally like
>to follow specific characters week after week so they would have to be careful
>not to introduce too many elements.

	Anthology series DIE in the ratings and in syndication. In addition,
set costs would go through the roof.

	Essentially and dramatically, there is absolutely NO REASON to show
ships other than the Enterprise. Each ship serves the same purpose. The
only difference would be the characters--and it's a hell of a lot easier
writing and a lot more effective to spend that effort on continuing
characters and bounce guest stars off of them.

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From: kmathias@afit.af.mil (Karl S Mathias)
Subject: Re: Use of "sir"
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:39:21 GMT

dszpiro@student.business.uwo.ca (Daniel A. Szpiro) writes:

>I recall that Saavik was referred to as "Mr. Saavik" in STII. Off the
>top of my head I can't recall any other instances of using "sir" or
>"Mr." to refer to female officers. Perhaps someone can tell us what
>the protocol is the military for addressing female officers.

The "Mr. Saavik" in STII is actually "Mister Saavik" - Mister is a
reference to officer rank in the US Navy (which ranks I don't recall), not a
reference to gender.  

Superior female officers in the USAF are addressed as "Ma'am" or by
their rank and last name.


>Regards,

>Danny


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From: 00jlrushton@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
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Subject: DS9 GARTH BROOKS WROTE THE MUSIC! HA!
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:45:33 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

DS9 MUSIC BLOWS!

IVE GOT FRIENDS IN DEEP SPACES!..... GARTH BROOKS NEW MUSIC!

LETS FACE IT THE MUSIC BLOWED SO DID THE LIGHTING!

argh!

Stimpi, leader of Deep SPOT Nine!
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From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: Replacement for Picard
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:07:32 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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In <rawdon.726777573@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:

>Why not?  Kirk assumed the captain's position twice while retaining his rank
>of admiral (once in ST:TMP, once in ST2:TWOK).

No.  Kirk not only gave up his Admiral's Star in TMP, he also
demoted Decker back to Commander.

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Date: Wed,  6 Jan 1993 00:26:30 -0500 
From: Robert Edward Timlin <rt16+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: DS9 or DSN?


     Well, in the premiere episode, the station is hailed at one point as DS9.
Seems to me that's the "canon" abbreviation. :-)

                                              -Robb Timlin
                                               rt16@andrew.cmu.edu
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From: rwmech@uumeme.chi.il.us (Robert W. Mech)
Subject: Re: Final Word on DS9 on WGN-Chicago
Organization: UUMEME Public Access Xenix
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 18:18:21 GMT

In article <C0GwqH.9Dt@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jlindqui@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Body Double for Aunt Esther) writes:
>
>3) DSN will be subject to the usual programming delays--Cub games, Sox games,
>   Bulls, etc...  I could not get any definitive word on whether or not
>   episodes entirely pre-empted (e.g. 7:00 games) would be shown later or not
>   at all.
>

Why does this sound like typical WGN.  Being in Chicago for over 15 years now
Im tired of missing things because of the Cubs, after all, they suck! :-)
I seriously hope that WGN at least shows the whole episode of DSN instead
of giving us that "Already in progress" stuff.  I know they will recieve some
nasty hate mail from me if they do.

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From: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu (Chris Blaise)
Subject: People who like Kira
Originator: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:50:24 GMT

From article <1993Jan12.155236.21575@netcom.com>, by harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp):
> tiverson@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Thor Iverson) writes:
>>Of course, as I found Kira the most compelling character on the screen,
>>as well as the most fully realized, I must admit to a certain bias in
>>favor of her character.
> 
> Given how much I liked Michelle Forves as Ensign Ro, I had high
> expectations, and apparently you and I are two of the few that liked
> Nana Visitor's performance.

	Hear hear!  I'm sorry, but IMHO, her character practically makes
the show for me.  Excellent character and portrayal in both episodes so far.

TTYL
Chris

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From: jcurrie@ccu.umanitoba.ca (James Gordon Currie)
Subject: Re: O'brien's transportation
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:26:36 GMT


          Well, it could be that O'Brien wanted to leave in a hurry... Or, he
merely wanted to avoid having to carry his luggage from the turboshaft to the
gangway, and ten into the station... Transporting to the station was faster.
Since I missed the first 15 minutes or so, I can't form an opinion as to 
whether or not the Enterprise *was* hard-docked to the station. Oh, and no...
transportation isn't a waste of energy on a starship. The engines and reactors,
even when on "idle" (as I don't know how else to describe it) produce more
than enough energy.

J G Currie
From: bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
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Subject: Re: Should I bother with DSN write-ups?
Date: 8 Jan 93 14:19:53 -0800
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <1993Jan8.152541.1@hamp.hampshire.edu>, ckeroack@hamp.hampshire.edu writes:
> 		Do people (esp. collectors like Vidiot, e.g.) really need a
> synopsis of DSN episodes? I'll do them if a good number of people seem to want
> them but if they just go unnoticed then I'll put my time to better use.
> 
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I think they're a good idea - people overseas who won't see DSN for years will
have some idea as to what various discussions are about....

BC
From: msb0+@andrew.cmu.edu (Maulik Harish Shah)
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Subject: Command Order Question:
Date: 10 Jan 93 16:53:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.AfIC4wO00iV183B6t6
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Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA



In ST:TMP, What-his-face (Name escapes me, but the guy who was captain
of the ship beforre Kirk comes and takes it from him) is demoted from
Captain to Executive Officer? Where does that fit in the scheme of
things?



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From: lape@cs.utk.edu (Bryon S. Lape)
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Subject: DSN: Worf Battle
Date: 8 Jan 1993 17:55:46 GMT
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	Type class of ship (a mere Lt. Cmdr.) in command of?

	The scene when two ships arrive together seems to have a Galaxy
class ship in the background and something else in the foreground, what is
the other ship?


Bryon

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From: kmrc@ellis.uchicago.edu (Hoosier Red)
Subject: Re: Data (Brent Spiner) was the doctor in Alien^3?
Reply-To: kmrc@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:08:15 GMT

Whoa there, kids--the doc in Alien ^3 was Charles Dance (Phantom of
the Opera, The Golden Child, Dancing in the Light).  Being as he's
a strawberry blond with a British accent and absolutely no
resemblance to Brent Spiner whatsoever (now Jeffrey Jones is kinda
similar, I grant you that), I don't see how anyone could confuse
the two. . .wait a minute.  The original poster watched the movie
during finals, right?

Yeah, that would do it.

MAM
Who likes both of 'em--
I just don't want to see them confused


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From: david@elwood.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (David Johnson)
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Subject: Is TNG still on the air?
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:46:40 GMT

Here in San Diego, the time slot in which TNG was aired is
now used for DS9.  I have seen where or if TNG was moved.
Is DS9 TNG's replacement effective immediately?

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From: jzawodn@andy.bgsu.edu (jeremy zawodny)
Subject: Re: DEEP SPACE 9 DRINKING GAME (get it out of this group!!!)
Organization: Bowling Green State Univ.
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 23:12:49 GMT

In article <C0LwC8.L4G@phage.cshl.org> pjm@isis.cshl.org (Pat Monardo) writes:
>In article <1993Jan09.212241.6708@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu> msmallwo@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (M. Lee Smallwood) writes:
>><never had a drink so I don't know how much to assign for this>
>
>Well, I'm out of ammunition on that one.
>
>(I have no joke here, i just wanted to lean forward and
>on international TV say "I'm out of ammunition on that one, guys")
>
>-- 
>-- Pat Monardo
>-- pjm@cshl.org


Pardon my ignorance, but what is this thread doing in misc.jobs.offered?!?

-- 
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From: cec35848@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chuck Carroll)
Subject: Question about DS9:Emissary
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:18:03 GMT

Admiral!  There be SPOILERS here!  (Albeit minor ones)

Remember how in _Dune_, when the Harkonnens vacate Arrakis, they
leave hundreds upon hundreds of traps for the Atreides.

Well, why not on Deep Space Nine?  Or at least spy devices?  Granted,
the Cardassians thought the station was pretty worthless at the
time, but still they would have known (or at least suspected)
that the Federation was coming in.

Thought: maybe there *are* spy devices all around, and they just
haven't been found yet.  I would love to see this brought up in
a future episode.

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From: S104374@UMRVMA.umr.edu
Subject: Re: Re: `Cheers woman
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:12:06 GMT
Organization: Univ of MO - Rolla

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
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From: abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick)
Subject: Re: `Cheers woman
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 19:48:55 GMT

In <1993Jan1.190601.8816@fuug.fi> an92@anon.penet.fi writes:

>Sacha Netters!

>My friend and I were watching STIII:TVH the other night and noticed that
>the woman who played Savick looked very similar to that woman from
>Cheers, was it just us or is this the same woman?  Or arewe we spending
>too much time in front of the ol' boob tube?  :-)  ;)

I don't know if you are spending enough time around the tv, but you
shouldn't be spending so much time in front of a computer terminal. It is
making you very confused.
First off, there is no such thing as STIII:TVH! You either mean STIII:TSFS
(The Search for Spock) or STIV:TVH (The Voyage Home). Which one is it?
As for Savick being the same person as (I assume you mean Rebecca) the
woman from Cheers, you still have the movie wrong! That would be STII: The
Wrath of Khan. (Incidentally, I forget her ST name, but it wasn't Savick.)
If you do mean Savick (from either STIII or STIV) then I'm not sure which
Cheers actress you mean, because she doesn't look familiar to me. (Maybe
she guest starred on Cheers?)

Alan Bick
-----------------------------End of Section------------------------------------

Get yourSavick's straight, guys.  Kirstie Alley played Lieutenant(j.g.)
Savick in STII:TWOK.  Robin somebody played Lieutnenant (j.g.) Savick
(same character, different actress) in STIII:TSFS and briefly in STIV:TVH.
They both played the same character.

                                       -=Road Warrior=-



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From: tpenning@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Thomas R Pennington)
Subject: Re: Use of "sir"
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:11:41 GMT

In article <C0GKHs.LsB@shuksan> major@shuksan (Mike Schmitt) writes:
>: I recall that Saavik was referred to as "Mr. Saavik" in STII. Off the
>: top of my head I can't recall any other instances of using "sir" or
>: "Mr." to refer to female officers. Perhaps someone can tell us what
>: the protocol is the military for addressing female officers.
>
>  In the Army, subordinates address women by rank or by "ma'am" (it sounds
>  terrible and most women hate it - but that's the protocol."
>
>  The equivalent of "Yes, sir!" is "Yes, ma'am!"  It's more comfortable to
>  address women by their rank.  eg "Sergeant Smith", "Lieutenant Brown".
>  Warrant Officers are more difficult.  A Chief Warrant Officer can be
>  correctly addressed as "Chief".  However, warrant officers are USUALLY
>  addressed as "Mister" - and that is not appropriate for a woman warrant
>  officer.  I've never heard any woman in the Army addressed as "Sir" or
>  "Mister".
>
>  It is appropriate for officers to address enlisted women simply by their
>  last names.  "Bunworthy, get over here!"  Though it IS rude.  However,
>  all military personnel should first and foremost be addressed by their
>  rank.
>
>
>
>--
>Mike Schmitt - Disclaimer: These opinions are not my employer's.  My opinions
>are protected by the 1st Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of
>America.  No mission too difficult, no sacrifice too great.  Duty first.
>

It is also common pratice that a Navy captain to call his 1st officer as
 "Mr. Jones."

-thomas

P.S. Sorry for the long quotation and short addition. I believe though that
all of the quote is relevant to the note.