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From: gude@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (David J W Emrich)
Subject: Re: 2 monitors on a 486 - How?
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:55:09 GMT

annef@dmp.csiro.au (Anne Foxworthy) writes:

>Could someone tell me how to connect a second monitor to a 486 PC.

>I will be debugging Windows programs, and want to add a second monitor
>to make debugging easier. I have copius notes on how to use one that
>is already connected, but I can't find anywhere how to connect one, or
>whether there are limitations on what sort of monitor I can connect.

>Thanks in advance for any and all help.

>Anne.
> 

I assume you are using a VGA as the current monitor/card setup.  In
simple terms the limitations are as follows.  (By simple terms,I mean
that this is the way IBM PC's were designed to work, given standard
cards, etc. etc.)

Two monitors/cards can be connected to a PC if one of them is run in
monochrome mode, and the other in color.  This is really synonymous with
running one in text mode, and the other in text/graphics mode.  The most
usual configuration is to have a 'primary' monochrome (say CGA, EGA or
HercMono), and a 'secondary' color card, say VGA.  THe primary card is
the one that the PC boots up on (i.e. startup diagnostics, ram count
etc. come up on the primary monitor).  The secondary one is not used
until someone (program) specifically requires it.  You would then have
the PC boot on the mono card/monitor, and windows woul run on the
secondary card/monitor.  The PC supports this as is, you just set the
BIOS up to use the primary card, and dos/BIOS/windows figures out the
secondary card all by themselves.

If you are not happy with mono cards, there is a not-so-simple solution,
but there are problems, (cost!).
This solution, that allows dual color screens, is one that involves
the high end graphics cards,  say, the Artist Card (U.S. product), the
Rasterex Card (Norwegian?), or similar (Moncrieff here in Australia sells
a card based on the TI chip set).  The only problem here is that these
cards are high end graphics cards, and they cost lots (order of $2000
for the Artist and Rasterex Cards).   If you are going to consider these
types of cards, post me again (or email me if you like) and I can get
more info.  

If you need any more info, post or email me again with specific
questions.

Good Luck!

[dav]  aka
David Emrich
gude@uniwa.uwa.edu.au
From: tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Samsung 17" and CTX 17" monitors, which one?(if either)
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:28:20 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


I was wondering if anyone has any comments about the Samsung 17" monitor
or the CTX 17"(1760 model I think) monitor.  It seems that you can get them
for under $900.00.

Would you prefer to go with a 15" Optiquest
                                  Sony
                                    .
                                    .
                                    .
                                  insert favorite 15" here.

I don't think any of the main stream(read high reputation/quality) one can
be had for that price.  So I'm deciding on whether to buy an inexpensive 17"
or go with a cheaper, but better quality 15 or 16".

I don't think I'd stoop to a GoldStar 17" thou. :)

Thanks,
Todd
tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Another 16550 question
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:01:17 GMT

hastings@unislc.uucp (Clint Hastings) writes:
>I finally looked at my multi-IO card, and on it are 2 unsocketed chips
>labeled Goldstar 16450. The chips are rather large and have 40 pins.
>Can I remove them and replace them with the 16550AFN? Is that all
>there is to it hardware-wise, besides letting Windows and any comm 
>programs know about it?

That's it.  The 16550AFN is (effectively) pin compatible with the
16450.  You'll get some who will tell you you need two other
associated timing chips, but if your board is socketed it should
handle it no problem - I've never seen a board that needed the extra
chips. 
-- 
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Liquid Plumr.
From: wedgerat@wpi.WPI.EDU (Erik Swimm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Looking for device driver for SCSI Bournouli drive
Date: 26 Jul 92 15:13:10 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute

In article <1992Jul26.032601.18887@zeos.com> kgermann@zeos.com (Ken Germann) writes:

>The drivers for the drive are dependant on which SCSI controller you are 
>using. An adaptec controller would use the ASPI4DOS.SYS in your config.sys
>to allow you to access the Bernouli.

  The cards look like they are specific to the IOEMGA drive.  They have 2 
connectors, one marked SCSI and one ANALOG.  The one marked analog seems to
go to the drive, so I assume the SCSI slot is just to make the card more
multi-purpose.  I'm going to give IOMEGA a call on Monday, and see if I can 
get the software that I need to use the drive.

				-Erik A, Swimm
From: liljeber@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Mika Pekka Liljeberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: FTPable reference material?
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:50:11 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Helsinki, Finland

I'm looking for FTPable reference material on AT/386/486 chipsets with
ISA/EISA/MC bus. Specifically I'm looking for information on register
level programming, but I'll be interested in any related stuff. Answers
via email, please. I will summarise, if there is interest (provided that
I get something substantial, of course).
 
        Mika
--
Mika Liljeberg			Email:	liljeber@kruuna.Helsinki.FI
Helsinki University			Mika.Liljeberg@Helsinki.FI
Dept. of Computer Science
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From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Subject: Re: THE BEST FTP SITE  ??????????????
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 05:50:11 GMT

In article <8almlrn.carlr@netcom.com> carlr@netcom.com (Carl Robinson) writes:
>Try    oak.oakland.edu    141.210.10.117   (it's a simtel20 mirror site)
>       garbo.uwasa.fi     128.214.87.1

Thank you for the citation, Carl.  Here is some more information
some readers might find of use:

"If you do not know how to go about getting material from these
sites, users are welcome to email me for the prerecorded
garbo.uwasa.fi instructions (long, circa 29Kb), Keith Petersen
(w8sdz@vela.acs.oakland.edu) for SIMTEL20 information, or Craig
Warren (ccw@archie.au) for Australian garbo mirror information. 
North American users are advised first to search on SIMTEL20, its
mirrors OAK.Oakland.Edu, ftp.uu.net, or the SIMTEL20 & garbo mirror
wuarchive.wustl.edu.  Australian users are referred to archie.au. 
Some of the mirrors may lag occasionally, or might not have all the
files. 
   If you send email to me for the garbo instructions and do not
receive my reply within five days, please ask your own site's system
manager to construct a returnable mail path for you". 

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland
From: dlyons@necis.UUCP (Dave Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: What is the AST-3G card?
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:23:03 GMT
Organization: NEC Information Systems, Acton, MA

In article <BrssvF.BMK@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, smlg1015@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Stuart M Lichtenthal) wrote:
> Can anybody identify this expansion card for me? An
> AST -3G was pulled out of a dead XT.  The rear contains a 
> sticker reading 3G PLUS-256.  It has a nine pin input, four
> dip switches above the 9-pin input, and a manual toggle switch
> labeled EMU above that. 

It's an old AST EGA card with 256KB of video ram.  I have one just
like it here on my desk.  I USED to have to docs for it too but
they're now long gone.  Std DIP setting should be 1 and 4 Off, 2 and 3
On.  Can't tell you about the EMU switch.
                                             -- Dave --
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From: peterj@hparc0.aus.hp.com (Peter Westley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Printer HP IIISI & TCP/IP Ethernet connection?
Date: 28 Jul 92 06:04:41 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: HP Australasian Response Centre (Melbourne)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

kadorken@thinkage.on.ca (Keith Dorken) writes:
: I would like anyone's experience in using the above printer directly connected
: via the Ethernet option to a Sun (or PC network). Does this work better, much
: better, or no improvement over connecting the printer to a serial line?
: 
: I have been told that some printers serialize a LAN connection internally, so
: that the overall throughput is still the same as if you connected the printer
: to a serial line in the first place. Does anyone know if this is true of
: the HPIII SI ?
: 
: 		
: -- 
: Keith Dorken
: Thinkage Ltd., Kitchener, Ontario, CANADA
: Internet: kadorken@Thinkage.On.CA

Keith,
	Much better is far far too mild, 10E16 would describe it more 
accurately! The IIISi (depending on lan traffic) will gobble up postscript
or PCL data AND print it at 17ppm.  No holds barred. It is a real interface
once it comes off the LAN.  I.e., no serial in between.  Although I am from
the hallowed company, I can vouch for it as I use one everyday of my life
and it is wonderful!  We used to have it via serial and even at 19200, the
thing was as slow as a wet week.  Moving to lan was the best thing.

Hope this unbiased opinion is of help!

regards,

Peter Westley			 .-_!\		Hewlett Packard
Phone: +61 3 (T)272 2440        /     \		Australian Support Centre
Fax: +61 3 890 0326      	\_.-.b/<--------31-41 Joseph St.
E-mail: peterj@hparc0.aus.hp.com     v          Blackburn, Victoria 3130
//
// The views, opinions, information or other data here is solely from the
// mind of myself.  It is not the official word from my employer.  While I
// endeavour to provide accurate information, no responsibility is taken
// for errors or omissions.
From: mphall@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Looking for bare bones 386
Summary: I want to upgrade my 386sx cheaply and easily.
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:56:55 GMT

	I own a Leading Technology PC Partner 386sx/16 which is a real shame.
According to the local hardware hacks, I can't upgrade the motherboard
alone because the keyboard plug is in strange place (among other reasons
they wouldn't go in to.)

	The Leading Technology representative said as much, although in
a much more bored voice.  He said the only option I have unless I want
to alter the case and such myself was to get a bare-bones system with
the chip I want and move my hard drive, sound card, scanner and graphics
board over to the new case.

	If anyone has dealt with the Leading Tech. and can offer advice
contrary to that, I'll be glad to hear it.  Otherwise, I'd love some
advice on who to go to for an affordable bare-bones 386 system.  I don't
want to spend the bucks on a 486.  I just need a little more performance
than what I'm getting with an otherwise fine machine and components.

	Thank you very much for any help.  If anyone is in a similar
spot, I'll be glad to relay what I learn as I learn it.

	-Mike


-- 
Michael Hall    mphall@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
"If you're not revolting against work, you're working
against revolt." - Bob Black

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From: ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson)
Subject: Re: Computer Discount Warehouse Experiences?
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 10:41:36 GMT

In article <62930@cup.portal.com> Tim_-_Otholt@cup.portal.com writes:
>>Can anyone relate either good or bad experiences when dealing
>>with Computer Discount Warehouse (CDW in Northbrook, Ill.)
>>via mail order?
>
>Funny you asked.  I just bought a modem from them.  Other than a minor
>problem (me forgetting to give them my appartment #), nothing at all.
>I'd buy from them again.  It arrived just when they said it would, and the
>prices seemed pretty good.
>

I've noticed they have a 20" Magnavox 1280x1024 noninterlaced monitor for
the same price that a lot of 17" ones are going for.  I have gathered a
few specs for this monitor from a few different ads, but 1) I've never
seen all the specs and 2) I've never seen this monitor reviewed even though
it is so cheap.  Can anyone tell me more about this monitor, good or bad?

Thanks in advance,


-- 
Jim H.
*
* James L. Henrickson                                 ujlh@sunyit.edu
* "Yet another Jim in the Linux world."  :-)
From: marvin@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Marvin Taylor)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 20:08:08 GMT
Subject: Re: SCSI Controller Cards
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware, mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green) writes:

> Right now, the 1542Bk seems to be the standard, or most commonly supported of
> PC SCSI cards.  That is the card I plan to get.

I have an UltraStor 24F (32-bit EISA w/cache).  I'm very happy with it
while running _DOS_.

My 2 cents: if you are planning on running a real OS, I'd suggest that
you first make certain which of the controllers it supports.

Otherwise, if you just plan to use DOS, I'm not sure that the hassle &
cost of a SCSI is worth the difference (if any) that you will see.  Of
course, SCSI tape, etc., would be a consideration.

I've made more calls to SCO and UltraStor than I'd care to count....

- Marvin
From: un032463@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: NEC 3Ds & PAN. 1124 FOR SALE
Date: 31 Jul 92 13:02:08 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

FOR SALE!!!


			NEC 3Ds -----> $475.00
			Panasonic 1124 ----> $180.00

Please E-Mail with response.
From: djr48312@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (X X)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Mistubishi286
Keywords: Fails Fixed Disk Init
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:08:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BrwFDE.3pp
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Im trying to help someone get their Mistubishi 286 Computer working.  Problem
is when it boots up it gives and error "fails fixed disk init".  Also "FDD-2
....."  I dont remember exactly.  Anyone have this machine and heard of
these problems.  What to do.


djr48312@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: dlow@pollux.svale.hp.com (Danny Low)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 00:32:29 GMT
Subject: Re: S3 Video Cards (Stealth, F1280...) SLOW?
Organization: HP LOVECRAFT DIVISION
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

>(Paul A Prior) 
>Ok, I know that S3 based cards slow down under dos text based plain
>VGA type stuff.  However, I don't need the "dir" command to speed by
>any faster than it already does!  Therefore my question is, so what?
>Does this affect things run under dos such as flight simulators (falcon
>3.0!) where frame rate is important?

No. The software must know about the special hardware features in
the S3 chips to get the improved graphics performance. Neither Falcon
nor any other game knows about these features. Windows based games
may use these features as graphics I/O is handled by the Windows
drivers and all S3 cards come with drivers that know about the S3
special features.

			   Danny Low
    "Question Authority and the Authorities will question You"
	   Valley of Hearts Delight, Silicon Valley
	     HP CPCD   dlow@pollux.svale.hp.com
From: jon@chopin.udel.edu (Jon Deutsch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Opinions wanted on Gateway
Keywords: Gateway, opinions
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:38:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Delaware - What state is that in?

In article <1992Jul28.210330.25207@pool.info.sunyit.edu> ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson) writes:
|>In article <l7ajngINN7h@news.bbn.com> rpreston@BBN.COM (Roger M. Preston) writes:
|>>
|>>I am aware of their recent Telepath (sp?) modem/fax fiasco, but I'm getting
|>>conflicting opinions from this newsgroup on how well they handled it.
|>>
|>
|>Can someone tell me how this Telepath fiasco is doing at the moment?  I'm
|>thinking of ordering one but I don't want to wait a long time.
|>

They have been shipping the modems for the past week or two.  
They are sending out 350 modems/day in new systems, and flooding the
backorder list.  They should be all caught up in 2 weeks, they say.
Also, apparently, the TelePath 14.4 or whatever seemed to have gotten
good reviews by a few on the net.  I ordered one as well, and I'll post
my findings ASAP.

As far as Gateway in particular, they seem like a semi-consciencious company.
They're definitely not rip-off artists and they won't be leaving the industry
anytime soon. (They sell 2,500 systems a day)
They also seem to have one of the best deals as far as bang fer buck.
(emphasis on the 'bang')

       X-------------------+--------------+-----------------------X
       |  |   |\       |>jon@chopin.udel.edu<|  "For my 2 cents,  |
       | \|on |/eutsch |>>-----------------<<|  I'd pay a dollar" |
       X------+--------------------+--------------------+---------X
From: pdg@crosfield.co.uk (paul goffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Orchid Fahrenheit 1280 dirver for OS/2?
Date: 28 Jul 92 08:07:20 GMT
Organization: Crosfield Electronics, Hemel Hempstead, United Kingdom.

In article <Jim_Johnson.05xb@abcd.Houghton.MI.US> Jim_Johnson@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Jim Johnson) writes:
>From what I just read (Computer Shopper, I think) OS/2 is limited to
>standard VGA (640X480), and requires a XGA board to get any higher
>resolution.  Makes some sense - other than the 8514/A, IBM never released a
>VGA with higher resolution. Notice I said it makes some sense, NOT that I
>said IBM's attitude is correct.

No, OS/2 2.0 is NOT limited to 640x480.

It's just that the standard drivers that come with OS/2 2.0 only
support IBM "Standard" resolutions - CGA, EGA, VGA and 8514/A.

(Might be Herc support too, but I've never bothered to check!)

IBM expect display card companies to supply the OS/2 drivers
(just as most of them do for Windows.)

SVGA drivers are available for OS/2 for Trident (which I use) and
Tseng SVGA cards.  Some others are supported too.  Get the FQL
from comp.os.os2.misc.

BTW WIN-OS/2, the "Full Screen" Windows system supplied with OS/2
uses standard MS Windows 3.0 (not 3.1) drivers.  If you have
any card that has Win3.0 drivers, you can run WIN-OS/2 at any resolution.
(ie. you can run PM sessions in, say 640x480, while waiting for
your PM drivers and also have higher resolutions/numbers of colours
in your WIN-OS/2 sessions.)

Sorry, I don't know if there's support for the Orchid Fahrenheit 1280,
but that might be on the FQL.

Paul
-- 
+-------------+-------------------------------------------------------+
+ Paul Goffin +  Crosfield Electronics Ltd. U.K.  +44 442 230000x3357 +
+             +  Opinions expressed are mine!                         +
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From: jwang@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Jane Wang)
Subject: Advice needed on Colorado Tape drive.
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 21:33:25 GMT

Hello, I am looking for a reliable yet not expensive tape drive for my 
Gateway 2000 486/33ISA pc. Right now I have two floppy drives in the system,
and the control card can only control two floppy disks. Somebody told me that
I can connect a Colorado 120mb internal tape drive onto the floppy cable
without an extra controller for it. So I checked the cable. There
are two plugs from the cable already plugged into the floppy drives, and
there are two unused plugs on the cable. But it seems like that the plugs 
can only accept pins, not the edge of a printed circuit board. So am I missing
something here? Or does the Colorado tape drive also come with pin plug?
Do anyone out there have any good or bad experience with Colorado drive?
Any advice is deeply appreciated.

Tong Gao
tgao@cad.cs.uiuc.edu
From: Tim_-_Otholt@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Another 16550 question
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 22:20:32 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

This was posted:

>7/22/92 07:07 5/298 hastings@unislc.uucp (Clint Hastings)
>Lines 1 to 5 of 5 (100%)    
>----- 
>I finally looked at my multi-IO card, and on it are 2 unsocketed chips
>labeled Goldstar 16450. The chips are rather large and have 40 pins.
>Can I remove them and replace them with the 16550AFN? Is that all   
>there is to it hardware-wise, besides letting Windows and any comm  
>programs know about it?
>
If you are lucky, that should be all there is to it.  I replaced an 8250
on my Hayes modem, two 8250s on my Everex Multi-IO card with 16550AFNs and
have had NO PROBLEMS since.  But be aware that you could end up with dead
boards if the Goldstar 16450 isn't pin compatible with the NS16450.  Also,
some serial cards are cheap and are not well suited for the NS16550AFN.

Aloha,

Tim Otholt

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From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Subject: Re: 800x600x32k
Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:01:13 GMT

In article <ISHIKAWA.92Jul23010524@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp> ishikawa@personal-media.co.jp writes:
>
>Hello.
>
>I have a simple question to ask:
>
>What is the affordable graphics card that can do
>	800x600x16K or 800x600x32K ?
>
>I have followed the discussion on ATI Ultra and a few comparisons with
>S3-based card. But I didn't know if there is any inexpensive card (say
>less than $500) that can do 800x600x16k or 800x600x32k.
>--

Do you care about speed? If you don't really care to get an accelerator
card, you can get a ATI XL for about 1/3 the price (or less) of the
ATI Ultra. It is 16 bit and can display up to 800x600x32k.
BUT! Make sure you are getting the latest one that just came out,
and not your dealer trying to clear old stock. The old ones only
went up to 640x480x32k. But this was our CHEAP (very cheap) alternative.

Thomas.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: INFO WANTED on Bubble Jet
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 11:03:37 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <ultima.712360247@mcl> ultima@mcl.ucsb.edu (David Rosen) writes:
> My friend is thinking of getting either the BJ10ex, BJ20, or BJ300, and
> he would like some information on the speed, quality of print, etc. on
> these printers.  Are they better than HP's?
> 
> Please send E-mail to this account.  Any information will be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Dave
> ultima@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu

They are better than dot matrix. I prefer the HP Deskjet 500 for clarity -
though the bubble-jets are very good printers.
 
Steve

-- 
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Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz         |  and bright in my eyes, 
withers_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz            |  And the stars going round in 
**** Happy user of OS/2 v2!! ****       |  my head." R. L. S.
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