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From: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Subject: Re: San Diego vs. Cleveland
Originator: delarocq@c00080-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:46:22 GMT




I take it you will bleed purple if the Vikes win, right????

         :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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Hungry for some fish.. Monday Night Football, November 16, 1992..

If you are a Buffalo Bills fan, email me at delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu
so we can talk all about the games, insight, etc.
If you are a Packers fan, let me know. I am interested in any news
out of Green Bay...
A PROUD MEMBER OF THE BILLS COALITION TAKING THE BET II.
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From: seshrama@usthk.ust.hk
Subject: Giants moving to Arkansas?
Organization: The Hong Kong University of Science & Technology (HKUST)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 04:12:50 GMT

Giants lose big in exhibition game against five man Knicks team.  Franchise
moves to Little Rock.  Giants to become the Little Rock Superstorers.
After last week's e-mail voodoo  working to help beat the Redskins, I thought
I'd pitch in and help the Giants make the playoffs.
From: rjk@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Raymond K)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Cowboy Bandwagon
Date: 11 Nov 1992 14:32:10 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Howard Hughes Medical Institute
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In article <JOHNDOE92Nov10.163004@samadams.inmet> johndoe@inmet.com (Bus error - core dumped) writes:
>
>                                               i maintained during landry's
>last season at 3-13 that the cowboys were only 7 plays from 10-6 and a
>division crown ... not 7 80 yard td strikes or 100 yd kickoff returns, but 7
>plays that they executed and executed poorly.

I'm glad to hear somebody else say this.  I've always thought the
same thing about that 1988 team.  They'll go down in history as
a 3-13 last place team, but they were also a team with an incredible
amount of bad luck.  They started the year at 2-2 and both of the losses
could have been wins with two of the seven plays you mention.  I 
remember Steve Pelluer calling the wrong play in the huddle vs. Pittsburgh
that cost them a victory and a bad call by the ref to give the Giants
a safety that should not have been.  Even the NFL said later that the
ref botched it.  Those first two losses kind of set the tone for the
season and the team lacked confidence.  I was at the Cowboys' game at
Philly that year, when they led 20-0 only to lose it 24-23 in the final
seconds.  That was the game where Landry lost count of where the ball
was at and missed a chance for a game clinching FG.  Anyway, it was a
long season which could have turned out a lot better.  Landry himself
contended that the team should have at least been 8-8.


Ray    GO COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: v130pwbq@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bills v. Dolphins - Billboard
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:54:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov12.122758@IASTATE.EDU>, rwturner@IASTATE.EDU (Richard W Turner) writes...
>In article <1992Nov12.174335.23312@pixel.kodak.com>, wieser@bissun.Kodak.Com
>(Jim Wieser) writes:
>> 
>> The listeners of a Rochester, NY radio station have purchased a billboard
>located on the Palmetto Freeway just outside of Joe Robbie Stadium. The
>billboard says "Squish the Fish. Dolphins are going down!" The people in Miami
>seem to be going nuts about this
>> --
>I'm sure that billboard will be shot full of holes
>by the time Monday night rolls around. :-)
>  
>I'm sure the Buffalo fans think it's a funny gag (and
>I do to) but I'm not so sure the Bills coaches and 
>players will find it that amusing.
>Things like this get used by the opposing team to fire 
>themselves up, not that the Dolphins should be lacking
>in motivation for this game.
> 
>My prediction
> 
>Miami    6  7  7  10  - 30
>Buffalo  7  3  7  10  - 27
> 
>R Turner 
>Dolfan

Not to mention getting the home crowd going. I hope Kelly and co. know sign  
language. :)
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From: cs92aja@cen.ex.ac.uk (A.J.Amsel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Seattle mailing list coming right up. With Fries ?
Date: 11 Nov 92 11:01:08 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Computer Unit. - University of Exeter. UK


Due to the amazing flurry of mail I recieved ( I must be into double figures
now ) regarding the Seahawks, I will set up a mailing list sometime today.

It will be done when I learn how to do it so I don`t have to keep typing
in all those address over and over again.

Anyway, As long as I haven`t lost your address, if you wrote to me or
News then I will put it in there. However I don`t have everyone`s so when
I send the list in, if you are not on it then send me a message and I will
put you on. Everyone on the list will receive an updated one after a few
days. Please remember that all this depends on me being able to set one up
and if I can`t someone else will have to do it. 

Anyway, hopefully some fans in the US will be able to provide us with any news
about the team and games to come etc. I have not been able even to follow
them this season on armed forces radio or tv so I really have been in the 
dark. I just know that they keep losing!

Anyway, someone did send in a Seattle mid season report which will be sent
to everyone if I get the mailing list going.

This list needs people who can go to games or read reports to send in their
thoughts so that the rest of us can find stuff out and so that perhaps there
can be a `discussions' on certain points.

Oh yes, thanks the person who reminded me that Tom Flores is our head coach.
Who is in charge of our offence ?

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From: larrym@ssec.wisc.edu (Larry McGuire )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Most Overrated Teams, Players, Coaches.
Date: 13 Nov 92 19:22:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Nov13.192227.28926
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Space Science and Engineering Center

> jeffr@ssec.wisc.edu (Jeff Ramin) writes:
> 
> Although I know I'm going to get endless flames for this one, I would add
> John Elway to this list.  For some reason, he's always been the media's 
> darling.  Has anyone seen his QB rating this year?  Very poor.  It seems
> all anyone ever wants to talk about is his comebacks.  Like he's the only
> Bronco out on the field when they come from behind.  During a comeback, his
> line, his receivers and the crowd {it always seems these comebacks take 
> place in Denver} are just as instrumental as he is.
> 

Part of Jeff's (whose desk is about 10ft. away from mine) problem may be me.
It must be hard to be subjected every Monday morning to my raving: "Did you
see that comeback by Denver yesterday" or a simple "How 'bout them Broncos?"
week in and week out.  :^)

(Unless they're playing NFC East teams,) the Broncos play a much more exciting
brand of football than we are used to seeing here in Wisconsin, and Elway is a 
big part of it.  It's because teams have to be wary of his scrambling that he's
able to pull up and complete that pass on 4th and 10.  Long ball, throwing 
across the field after scrambling to one side, he can do it all.  A defense can 
never be sure what will happen next. (Remember those 'quick kicks' he used to 
do on 3rd and real long? I wonder why he doesn't do those anymore?).

C'mon Jeff, Elway is not overrated, but highly reguarded, and deservedly so.

Hmmmm.  Anyone got an Elway GIF file I can "wallpaper" Jeff's monitor with after
he goes home tonight?  :^)  :^)

 
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From: rsmith@seq.uncwil.edu (Ross Smith)
Subject: Re: Best In The NFL (was: Randal benched)
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 00:45:20 GMT

gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:

>paladin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jason Gische) writes:
>>NFL men agree that Marino is
>>the best QB in the NFL (granted, probably since Montana retired.)  

>Which NFL men?  Marino hasn't been selected as a pro-bowl starter in years.

Dead wrong... Marino was selected to start the 1991 Pro Bowl, but was replaced
due to injury by Elway, who was in turn replaced due to injury by O'Brien.

Marino selected to Pro Bowl year          replacement(s)
1983                                      Bill Kenney
1984                                      *actually played!*
1985                                      Ken O'Brien
1986                                      Boomer Esiason
1987                                      Jim Kelly
1991                                      John Elway, Ken O'Brien

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From: at972@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: request 8 tix for Steelers/Detroit Nov 15
Date: 7 Nov 1992 15:07:39 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Anyone from Detroit area willing to part/dump 8 tickets for this
game?  Must be seats together or 4 and 4 together.

Please respond to:
clark@tol-ed.com              <or>
at972@cleveland.freenet.edu

Thanks in advance,
Mark
From: tes0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (THOMAS EDWIN SCHMIDLIN)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 2,000 yard rusher
Date: 10 Nov 92 04:12:50 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <92314.125028JJS158@psuvm.psu.edu>, JJS158@psuvm.psu.edu (JJ Serowik)
 writes:
>Seems to me that Emmitt is Without a Doubt, the best RB in the league!
>Seems to me, he singlehandedly(Sp?) whupped the Eagles D into a Coma by
>continually pounding them in the head! Seems to me, anyone who gains 163 yards
>agains a stingy Defense like the Eagles deserves it!  How many yards did Foster
>have that week?  And who were they playing?  Doesn't sound to me like Emmitt
>has any competition!  Thanx for the future flames:)
>                                                      Rob.

Foster had 118 yards that week on 31 carries.  That was against the oilers.
Smith is now only 21 yards ahead of Foster after this past weeks games.  I
know he was taken out, but it doesn't change the stats.
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From: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Subject: Re: BILLS WILL MAKE MOST OF 2nd CHANCE!
Originator: delarocq@c00093-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:48:09 GMT




 I totally agree.... K.C. found out last year how tough revenge
 is.. The Dolphins will learn really fast that the Bills have a
 memory.... :)

 I have my official Miami Dolphins Sacrificial Football Card
 ready....!!! :)

 
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Reporter: "Who do you think is the best running back in the NFL?"
Thurman Thomas: "The running back that went to Oklahoma State".
From: cor@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Cory Shimer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: More Patriots Woes
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:44:02 GMT
Distribution: usa,local
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <1992Nov5.102335.1@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin) writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.152805.16831@osf.org>, bsmith@osf.org (Bruce Smith) writes:
>> Adding to the Pats' already extensive injury list, Coach Dick MacPherson is
>> out for perhaps the rest of the year with diverticulitis (an intestinal
>> problem). 
>> 
>> The Patriots have often suffered from untimely injuries, but this year has
>> been especially bad. Anyone know all the names? The most recent (not counting
>> Coach Mac) was OT Bruce Armstrong, who suffered ligament damage in last week's
>> game vs. the Bills. I believe that leaves the team with just one reserve
>> offensive lineman.
>> 
>> Fellow Pats fans, take heart anyway. The team is still playing hard, and....
>> next year will *have* to be better! (won't it?)
>
>Didn't Dick get coach of the year awards last year for turning around the 
>1-15 Pats of 1990?  He hasn't suddenly gotten stupid, right?  Jankovic was
>also getting kudos for the team's play, I'm sure?

Obviously, coach Mac' cetrainly hasn't gotten stupid.

>
>What choices did these guys make that have produced such an impotent team?
>Have the gains of 1991 been erased?

HAve the "gains been erased"?

well, it's hard to say.

The team has had problems mentally all year, including the
low confidence factor, and frustration factor.

The team certainly got off to a bad start loosing to the Rams
ans Seahawks.... since then, improvemnts have been slow, and
injuries have taken their toll. Add to this a very tough schedule,
and you get 0-8.

(tough schedule = Bills twice, 49ers, Dolphins....)

I think Bills fans know from the last meeting that the team 
is competetive despite mental problems, and injuries.

The injury to Armstrong hurts ALOT.

The season is over, so the staff ought to let the new kids play
a little more, and perhaps some good young talent will emerge for
next year.

I hadn't heard about coach Mac' getting sick, and possibly being out for
the rest of the year. This is also another hard to take loss.

What the hell, between the bad start, the injuries, and now the loss of
the coach, what else can go wrong? lady luck is frowning on the
Pats this year.
From: ajj@zycor.lgc.com (Andrew Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Am I the only Seattle fan ?
Summary: Offense
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:26:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: lgc.1992Nov6.212618.25878
Distribution: rec
Organization: Landmark/Zycor   Austin, Texas

No Alex. I am also a Seahawk fan (growing up in Western Washington).
I think it was a mistake to let Chuck Knox go. For years he took
a team with average to mediocre talent and alway got them ready
to play.

This year's Seahawks does have a decent defense.

O.K. let's now talk about the Seahawk offense:



Oh well, that was a stimulating subject!

Cheers,

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From: mdh@mlb.semi.harris.com (Mark Hanson)
Subject: Re: Willie Soviet Drewery
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:18:31 GMT
Reply-To: mdh@mlb.semi.harris.com (Mark Hanson)
Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne, Fl.

In article <1992Nov10.132315.2237@cnsvax.uwec.edu>,
rantalmj@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
|> Ok, at this risk of sounding stupid, can anyone explain this Bermanism?
|> 
|> Willie Soviet Drewery
|> 
|> I just don't get it.
|>
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|> "Dick, um, very, very, very bad."
|>            -Bo, when asked by Dick Schaap if not being able to run hurt.

You won't have to worry about it any longer.
The Bucs waived Willie Yesterday (11/11), along with Ken Willis ex-K.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: dmercer@oracle.com (David Mercer)
Subject: Re: Indoor vs. Outdoor (was Re: WIZARD PREDICTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!)
Organization: Oracle Corp., Belmont CA
	<1992Nov9.162203.2306@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> <1686@niktow.canisius.edu>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 00:55:33 GMT
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In article <1686@niktow.canisius.edu> bittle@niktow.canisius.edu (Jason Bittle) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.162203.2306@gn.ecn.purdue.edu>, nitin@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Nitin Khanna) writes:
>> Pats:  Outdoor (I think they moved from a domed to 
>>         a grass field last year)

>The Pats have always been an outdoor team.  The Falcons recently moved indoor,
>and that's who you may be thinking 'bout..

The Pats did, however, exchange an artificial surface at
Foxboro for a natural one during the summer of '91.

The Pats, BTW, will go 7-9 this year (modification of my
preseason prediction of 16-0 based on performance so far
this season).

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From: un032221@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Joe Gibbs/ Redskins win SB XXIX
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:32:41 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

In article <1992Oct28.012940.16126@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>, ded@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (nod sivad) writes:
>>	-Skins fan that likes Conklin, and hates Rypien
> 
> 
> Yeah, and before that you liked Humphries but hated Rypien and liked
> Rypien but hated Williams and liked Williams but hated Shroeder and
> liked Shroeder but hated Theisman.  You're never happy with the
> current QB.  
> 
> Conklin may have more physical skills than Rypien,
> but he doesn't have the smarts.  Give him another year or two.
> 
> 					me
> 

	Just shows how little you know about me.  I loved when Williams was
around, have NEVER liked Humphries, Ryp, or Shroeder.  I wasn't as close a
follower in Theismann's day, but from what I remember, I would have liked him.
Conklin is a QB, that Gibbs has liked the whole time.  He has as good arm
strength as Ryp, has MORE natural smarts, and, as you mentioned, better
physical skills.  If Ryp has any advantage over Conklin it's experience.  I
would rejoice if Cary got the opportunity to start, but I know he probably
won't, so I can only complain.
	-Skins fan that hates Ryp, but likes Conklin
From: nate@ghidrah.Central.Sun.COM (Nate McConnell FE/SSE Grand Rapids, MI)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Marion Butts??
Date: 9 Nov 92 06:52:19 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: nate@ghidrah.Central.Sun.COM
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Heard he went out with a minor injury in the Chiefs game.  What is the injury and
how minor is it?

thanks,
nate
From: jodyj@phred.UUCP (Jody L. Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: In defense of Seahawks
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:57:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Physio Control Corp., Seattle WA

As a Vikings fan transplanted to Seattle, it's finally a good year to be
a Vikings fan and a bad year to be a Seahawks fan.  As far as the Seahawks
woes this year, I believe that Tom Flores is paying for his lousy job of
being a GM and owner Ken Behring (aka Bubba or Elmer Fudd) is paying for
sticking his nose where it doesn't belong.  When Chuck Knox wanted to draft
a lineman, Bubba said NO, I want a quarterback.  So we got Dan McGwire and
because we have no line, he and Kelly Stouffer are on IR.  And how smart is
it to let Dave Krieg go to Plan B?  We easily could have traded him for
something!  And what about trading the VIkings a draft pick for Keith
Millard!  Another waste.  The Seahawks woes are being cause by an owner
that is trying to cut his losses (letting Krieg and Jacob Green go) to make
up for his mistakes (drafting Dan McGwire number 1).

To make things worse, we've been bitten by the injury bug (15 players on IR,
8 of them starters).  Don't look for any great improvements in the next few
years either.  Only if Bubba is willing to open his purse and go after some
quality Plan B aquisitions (if it still exists) and/or pay for our high first
round pick (Lincoln Kennedy
would be nice).  

Go Vikings!!!!!
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From: Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.cis.YALE.EDU (ALN - Go Giants!)
Subject: Re: NEW ORLEANS
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:25:49 GMT

In article <1dtmujINNj49@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> iav@po.CWRU.Edu (Ian A. Verschuren) writes:
>From: iav@po.CWRU.Edu (Ian A. Verschuren)
>Subject: NEW ORLEANS
>Date: 12 Nov 1992 13:41:39 GMT
>
>Screw the 49'ers and Joe montana.. new orleans will win the division this 
>year!
>and the game this week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>*evil grin*

Well Ian, I have a vested interest in the Saints for the SB this year.  
Actually I'll woof for any team that could possibly put the 9ers out of the 
playoffs or SB!

Currently they are tied with SF for the division?  Is that correct.  So from 
the saints point of view and the remaining season schedule, who is left to 
play?  

TIA for the info!
Giants fan who is looking at the saints for secondary woofing!
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