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From: SAB121@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: SEAs?
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:36:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92321.173609SAB121
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Date:    16 November 1992, 17:27:17 EST
From:    SAB121   at PSUVM
To:      TS8RBOTW at MIAMIU
Subject: Re: SEAs?

In article <92321.123328TS8RBOTW@MIAMIU.BITNET>, you say:
>
>Why are Sefl-Extracting Archives (particularly GSHK) called self-
>extracting when they don't?  That's annoying having to change the
>file type and aux type like we have to do with GSHK.  Is GSHK the
>only SEA like that, or do all have to be manipulated?  GSHK is the
>only SEA I've ever seen.
>
>Just curious...
>   ...Tim

Wrong! Normally a sea archive does NOT need things set.  This is just with down
loading from a network to your II, or downloading from AOL to a MAC to your II.
I personally downloaded it from a local BBS after a beta-tester had finally
gotten permission to upload it, and it unpacked fine.  All I did was transfer
it in prodos mode.  Bingo! :)

Furthermore, the problem with being unable to extract it is NOT GSHK's fault,
but rather GSCII+ and sscii, which are currently (I believe) being fixed to
avoid this problem.  Unpacking the .bsq file with the 8 bit version of BinSCII
set everything correctly, and all I had to do was double click.

The reason for this is very simple.  It's called drool proof paper, and is
necessary out here in the Real World, when you run a BBS or some other system
for fun/profit, and have people new to the telecom world running around on it!
This way all they have to do is point and click instead of having to:
EXEC GSHK.TXT, check to make sure that the file type is correct, or worse,
download it without the manuals, because you can't unshrinkit the whole archive
so all they get is the executable, THEN learn how to use it properly.  For

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Apple //GS with video overlay card
From: ** Sender Unknown **
Date: 21 Nov 92 08:51:24 GMT
Organization: DataSoft Consulting (Toronto, Ont. Canada)


 I need to know something about the Apple // Video Overlay Card. 
  Is it possible for the card to interface with the Fingerprint GS. it 
that if you have a video running and you then push the Fingerprint button 
, Will it take a snapshot of the video or the graphics behind the video 
at that time..????
 
 Joel.
/2

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From: fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Foundation & ScriptEdit
Date: 21 Nov 92 15:03:50 PST
Organization: BBS

I am really waiting for the native ( graphic ) editors for Foundation before I
purchase it, but I think I might just go ahead and get it right now.

Does the current ScriptEdit handle all defined GS/OS resource types??  Such as
rBundle?

frank m. lin
fmlin@terapin.com

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From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: Future of the II line (???)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:50:50 GMT

bjbernstein@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu writes:

>> they often wonder if the II is on the way out... Why? With little spent on
>> R&D, yet a relative *LOT* happening,

>  Such as?

  GNO, Switch-It!, Pointless, AutoArc and HardPressed, the Apple EtherNet card,
a new high-performance stereo digitizing card, IDE hard drives & controllers,
the best non-UNIX OS on the market... I could go on, but I think you get the
point.

>> and with hardware that is "settled"

>  Actually, I remember my Apple ///'s chips playing musical chairs..

  Actually, I remember buying my Apple IIgs in 1987.  That makes 5 years now,
and not one repair has ever been done to this IIgs (Woz edition).  
We're talking about the Apple II, not the Apple III.

>> and isn't subject to 2000 clones messing up protocal, I highly doubt that
>> Apple would give up the II line.

>  Too late.. they already did. Blame it on that Pepsi dude..

  The Pepsi dude is on his way out.  Rumor has it he will either 1) be
on Clinton's administration, or 2) leaving anyway after about 2 years.

>>> If Apple does kill the II line, how will the licensing of software go?
>>> will Apple be selling the II line to an outside company? a Spinoff? How
>>> does this go? If Apple will be giving the II the ax, what can we do?

>  They did.. about 2-3 years ago. 

  Hardly.
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From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: flopticals...
Date: 18 Nov 1992 11:20:33 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu

fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin) writes:

>I am intersted in gettin the floptical drive from Mass Micro.  The reason is, I
>think it looks the best...  How ever, it doesn't seem to have a "eject" button.

Wrong floptical. Those are really Magneto-Opticals. Insite has a registered
trademark on "floptical", or at least they are brave enough to put (R) after
it on their documentation. The drives that the Ramfast works with use Insite
mechanisms, which all have a real eject button.

>1. Can the RamFAST floptical ROMs ( is it "i" or "j"? ) eject disks by issueing
>a SCSI eject command?

SCSI has _no_ eject command (stupid but true). They do eject disks by using an
extension Insite came up with to the SCSI Start/Stop Device command, which is
not exactly kosher but I don't see as how they had much choice.

It's "j". "i" works but has some nasty bugs that did not endear Drew to me when
I found them. Posting them on GEnie in a rather noisy manner did not endear me
to Drew, either...

>2. Does the AE and Tulin flopticals have a eject button?  I suppose I'll have
>to get one of these...

Yes, they are Insite mechanisms so they have a physical eject button that
always works (no need for unbent paper clip "abortion pins" as with the
Apple 3.5 drive).

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: RamFAST & GS/OS cache
Date: 23 Nov 1992 03:00:48 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: arrester.caltech.edu

fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin) writes:

>Hmm, I don't know if I get that.  GS/OS cache in already in memory, I don't see
>how reading data from the SCSI device, then copy RF's cache to GS memory will
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Wrongo, if it is already in the RF cache
>be faster then just reading/moving the GS/OS cache already in memory.  Besides,
>I have a quick TWGS ( 15 ) here :)

YOU have a quick TWGS, and I have a quick Zip, but _most_ of Drew's customers
don't have either.

>This make sense, maybe the Apple II CEG should add this to the 6.0.1
>enhancement list.  Since this feauture will improve GS/OS cache is self, and
>not just help RF.

I agree here. It's possible that some FSTs already do that, but I don't know
enough about the internals (and Apple ain't too talkative).

>Still, I see no reason why Drew shouldn't add GS/OS cache support; unless his
>time is needed on other R&D work.

Also agreed. I believe Drew feels there is other stuff that deserves more
attention, but if enough people ask for it he'll probably look into it again.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bgilbert@nyx.cs.du.edu (Brenden Gilbert)
Subject: .FLI files and Paintworks
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix (sponsored by U. of Denver Math/CS dept.)
Disclaimer1: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University of
Disclaimer2: Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
Disclaimer3: control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 22:14:01 GMT

mkheintz@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Michael Heintz) writes:
 
>into SuperConvert and save them back as SHR pictures.  Making an animation
>from that is not easy unless you have ShowPic and set it up to do a slide
>show on the pictures you have just created.  I don't know if you can make
>a PaintWorks animation or not, I'm holding out for the animation program

You can make animations from converted .fli frames.  Take it from me,
I've converted maybe 20 .fli files this way.  You have to do the following
to make sure you can make a paintworks animation:

1) Have a large capacity storage device handy.. if you're converting .fli
files that take up more than 40 frames.

2) Use FliAway on the SuperConvert package to extract frames to your large
capacity storage device.

3) Enter SuperConvert and select IBM & Compatibles as the computer to
convert files from and ".AA files from FliAway" as your convert option.

4) select either C0,2 Apple Preferred or C1 uncompressed as your
destination file.

5) after all the frames have been converted (through painstakingly
converting each frame) enter either Paintworks Plus (RECOMMENDED),
Platinum Paint, or Dreamgrafix.

6) Compress the frames.  Make sure each frame is numbered .000,.001, etc
for Dreamgrafix or Paintworks Plus (can be .00,.01, etc too for PW Plus or
Gold)  
 
7) There ya go... a fli file to watch!!! if u have any questions or would
like to see some of the fli files I have already converted to paintworks
format, drop me a line at either address listed below.
 
Brenden

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From: u9050728@cs.uow.edu.au (Shane Kelvin Richards)
Subject: Re: Bouncing Bluster
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 05:48:29 GMT

AKARPENKO@ALBION.BITNET writes:

>I downloaded Bouncing Bluster from UTARLVM1 and I can't get disk 1 to run
>no matter what I do to it.  Launching it from system 5.0.2 or 3.0 simply
>returns me to the finder.  I got the extra tools and added them to my
>System Disks but the result was the same.  I also tried using the Bouncing
>bluster system file as the start program from 5.0.2 with the added tools
>installed.  This time the screen was blue after getting the Welcome to the GS
>thermometer.  The screen would flask to black and then back to blue this would
>continue until I reset my computer.  I have a Woz with ROM 01.  Any suggestions?

	From memory you need System 4.0 to run Bouncin' Bluster.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: SyQuest and Apple DMA SCSI card
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:49:41 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <83oauB6w165w@bluemoon.use.com> slhood@bluemoon.use.com (Stephen L. Hood) writes:
> I have an Apple DMA SCSI card in my ROM 01 IIGS.  I am using a SyQuest 44 
> megabyte removable hard drive and a Quantum 85 megabyte hard drive with 
> this card.

I too have a similar configuration: Rodime 60 MB drive, and SyQuest 44
MB using an Apple DMA SCSI card.

Switching cartrdiges is somewhat slow, as the computer seems to poll
the drive four times before it will appear, but I certainly don't have
to remove the cartridge and reinsert it.

I can boot GS/OS with no cartridge in the SyQuest, and it works fine
if I then insert a cartridge (while in Finder, for example).

Going into ProDOS-8 with no cartridge in the SyQuest is a problem -
the computer doesn't hang, but I cannot subsequently access the
SyQuest until the system is rebooted (or a program reinitializes the
SCSI bus, e.g. Chinook SCSI Utilities, and I quit from and re-enter
ProDOS-8).


The SyQuest is connected to the computer, and the Rodime to the
SyQuest.  The Rodime is internally terminated.


It sounds like you have termination problems of some kind - I've never
come across either of the problems you mentioned (having to re-insert
a cartridge to have it recognised, and ProDOS-8 hanging if the SyQuest
has no cartridge).

It may be something to do with the supply of power to the terminators.
-- 
David Empson

Internet: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz    EMPSON_D@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Snail mail: P.O. Box 27-103, Wellington, New Zealand
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From: tomk@pro-nsdapple.cts.com (Tom Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: PD communication programs
Date: 17 Nov 92 06:47:49 GMT
Organization: ProLine [pro-nsdapple] - North San Diego Apple Users Group

In <01GR7RBAJJQ88Y7MS5@ALBION.BITNET> AKARPENKO@ALBION.BITNET writes:

>Does anyone know of any public domain VT100 programs that support Xmodem.
>I am trying to download nontext files from ccosun.caltech.edu with TIC but
>the it says that the file is transfered after a few blocks.  I have a IIGS
>with an internal Prometheus modem.  Thanks.

Have you tried Zlink?  I believe it does VT100.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: behrenss@hphalle6.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: Fully populating an OctoRAM card (Q)
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:31:45 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

Rick Ewing (EWING@CTRVAX.VANDERBILT.EDU) wrote:

[Problems with 8MB in GS]

First: Do you have a card that does DMA? Can it handle 8MB?

: into GS's before, but I can't!  The memory is the 1 Meg x 2 style which
: means that only 2 chips are on the SIMM boards, unlike the existing
: ones that are 1 x 8's.  TYpically, I wouldn't expect this to be a problem,
: but who knows?

You really should expect that to be a problem. It caused a shitload of problems
on old PC boards, simply because those chips need a refresh that is a little
bit different, and the old chip sets didn't provide for that. Sounds familiar?
You an old Z80 person? ;-)

So, get *9 (or *8, if you must) SIMMs from a friend and try them. Could be the
problem goes away. (*2, really ... most SIMMs have 3 chips, not two. This is
really strange, a Mac person not putting SIMMs in that can also be used on PCs.
Oh well :).

Soenke

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From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: RamFAST & GS/OS cache
Date: 22 Nov 92 03:38:24 GMT

The GS/OS cache caches _everything_.  Every block read from a cacheable
device is cached.

I think having your cache set beyond 64K or 128K would be silly, since
caching can only help so much (particularly software cacheing).  I keep
mine at 32K.  You might try sitting down with a stopwatch and try various
sizes until you find the best one.

Personally, I'd suspect that with the RAMfast, the best GS/OS cache size
would be something small (or zero), just because double-cacheing doesn't
seem like a smart way to speed up the works.

- Eric S.

--
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InterNet: uerics@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu  |           ACM Member
FidoNet:  1:206/2713 Eric Shepherd | Programming Law #1: "When in
AOL:      Sheppy                   | doubt, rewrite from scratch."
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: A+/InCider article: ACK!
Date: 17 Nov 92 01:52:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: mcl.uerics.721965155

Re: "Gappies"

I agree entirely that System 6 is nothing to be scoffed at (which is
precisely what is done in the latest inCider).  The simple truth is that
the IIGS System Software does a lot of things the Mac doesn't do:

o Proportional scroll bars (how in blazes can Mac people stand those phony
scroll bars -- that's the most non-intuitive thing I've ever seen).

o Easy access to foreign disks (let's face it, AFE is _slooowwww_ and
doesn't work very well on ProDOS files).

o More intuitive Finder (IMHO.  For example, there are many more keyboard
equivalents, and these are more logical in many ways)

o Knows when to break the rules (the Mac follows the HIG obsessively,
avoiding intuitiveness just to follow those guidelines.  They're called
"guidelines", not "the law".  Having a key equivalent for "Print..." seems
intuitive to me...)

There are all kinds of other things (in fact, I've forgotten the one I was
originally going to mention... :).

The Mac is a pretty good machine, but it could certainly learn a few
things from the IIGS (and the other IIs, for that matter).

- Eric S.

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From: tomk@pro-nsdapple.cts.com (Tom Kelly)
Subject: Files with F2 filetype
Organization: ProLine [pro-nsdapple] - North San Diego Apple Users Group
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 13:14:55 PST

I was looking over some the disks in my collection of "treasures" today and
found several disks full of Prodos files.  They appear to be graphics
(artwork or pictures) I don't recall what they are.  All the files are of
filetype F2.  Does anyone have any idea what program might use them?
I suspected the new Print Shop or Print Master.  I have not tried YET.

I also found two programs:Cad Draw and Super Print.
Does anyone have info on them?
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 11:15:37 -0500 
From: "Benjamin S. Yu" <by24+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Joystick 8pin-->9pin?

Could anyone tell me where i can get a 8 pin to 9 pin cable for my
joystick or how i can make one?  Thanks

Ben Savageley
From: bird@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (j.l.walters)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: DeskWriter and Proterm 3.0
Date: 16 Nov 92 03:32:29 GMT
Organization: AT&T

From article <isoauB4w165w@bluemoon.use.com>, by slhood@bluemoon.use.com (Stephen L. Hood):
> hdgarner@acs.harding.edu writes:

>> Could someone tell me if it is possible to print on a HP DeskWriter
>> from Proterm
> 
> It is not possible to use a DeskWriter from ProDOS8 due to the fact that 
> it is a QuickDraw printer and has no internal fonts.

All true, however, if you say, "DeskJet 500," the story is much
different. It has the fonts on-board. In addition, it provides
wonderful output if you get SuperPatch 8.x from Quality and print
AppleWorks Classic documents. In addition, both the Seven Hills and
Vitesse drivers work well for 16 bit programs. (Only Seven Hills by
personal experience.)

-- 

		Joe Walters att!ihlpm!bird, IH 2A-227 (708) 224-7189
		To know, and not to do, is not yet to know
From: unknown@apple.com (Matt Ackeret)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: A+/InCider article:  ACK!
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:03:09 GMT
Organization: Apple
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X-Xxdate: Thu, 19 Nov 92 10:04:07 GMT

In article <BxyyC9.2w3@news.iastate.edu> Harold Byron Bouma,
hal@budapest.math.macalstr.edu writes:
>	Well, yes, it was a grave mistake to overlook the HFS FST, its one of  
>GS/OS most underrated features, But I think Mr. Kreizer is overlooking one  
>major delima. Aliasing and shared folders really only benifits users who
access  
>a device over a network. And thats the main reason why Apple put them in
System  

Not eeeeeeven.  Obviously that's true about shared folders, but your
statement about aliases certainly isn't.  I have zillions of aliases on
my desktop, even an alias of a folder to aliases to other stuff (so I don't
have to clutter the desktop enough).  This type of thing is very common
because the Mac literally MOVES your applications when you put them on the
desktop so it can't find its data files. I have aliases in the Apple menu too.

Aliases ARE useful for network things (I sure wish the damn things could
remember your password for servers though), but that's certainly not only
when they're useful.

To bring the GS in the picture, I think aliases would be useful on the GS too
for *similar* reasons.  Even though the GS doesn't actually move files when
you put them on a desktop, I'd probably put aliases on the desktop instead of
the actual files, so if I do happen to open up the folder where a desktop
file 'lives', I will actually see it in the window, and the alias will be on
the desktop.

yeah this is going to be formatted all crappily. I've set the auto wrap width
in the 
program I post with, it still screws up the messages.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: isc10327@nusunix1.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE)
Subject: Re: about my survey - this should be 4
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:38:20 GMT

Hi Larry, perhaps you'll like to do a similar survey at Comp.Sys.Apple2.

I, for one, would love to take part in your survey!

- DOTW -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: Help With ShrinkIt GS 1.1
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 07:31:03 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.005534.1@cmcvx1.claremont.edu> astein@cmcvx1.claremont.edu writes:
> 
>     I downloaded ShrinkIt GS 1.1 from America Online on a Macintosh and
> transferred the file to my Apple IIGS via System 6.0 and the HFS FST.
> [etc.]

The correct file type is $B3 (S16) with auxiliary type $DB07 (desktop
application).

I suspect the problem is that you managed to get a few extra bytes on
the end of the file at some point - probably when downloading to the
Mac.  An S16 file must have _exactly_ the correct length, or the IIgs
System Loader will reject it (it thinks there is an invalid segment
header at the end of the file).

My IIgs is out of range at present, so I can't look up the correct
length.  Perhaps someone else could post a message stating the correct
length of GSHK11.SEA.
-- 
David Empson

Internet: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz    EMPSON_D@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Snail mail: P.O. Box 27-103, Wellington, New Zealand
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: lurch@eskimo.com (Erik Kloeppel)
Subject: Re: Wanted: good word processor for ][e
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 09:55:47 GMT


Re: word Processor for the ][e.. take a look at Applewriter 2.1.
I think you'll find it does just aobut everything you need it to.

Lurch@delphi.com
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:10:13 EST
From: <KCR103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: TurboRez Graphics Board

I was reading my first issue of GS+, and they mentioned the TurboRez board.
What does anyone know about this board?
Ken

P.S. What's the deal with the Digital Signal Processor by New Concepts?
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