HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jcarroll@bach.udel.edu (James Carroll)
Subject: Re: A hug request and a general growl at the world
Organization: University of Delaware Alumni
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 03:42:39 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.223413.15157@tfs.com> michael@tfs.com (Your message will cost the net hundreds if not thousands of dollars to send everywhere.) writes:
>In article <C0C2ED.Cxr@news.udel.edu> seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore) writes:
>>
>>I am quite annoyed with being closetted.  I want to be out and sincere with the
>>people who I meet and know.
>>I have a question for the bunch.  Where does the balance lie between discretion
>>and safety on one hand and sincerity and openness on the other?
>>
>Interesting you should ask this. I struggle a lot with this myself. I also
>ask myself, when I'm outing myself, whether I'm doing it for shock value
>(or other reaction) vs. a sincere and honest revealing of myself. Sometimes
>the answer is obvious, but often it's in the grey area. In those cases I
>tend towards outing, because I feel strongly that the more out we are,
>the more accepted we will (one day) become. If my motives aren't always
>pure, my action still furthers the cause, I think.
>
>You ask specifically about discretion and safety. Look at your past behavior:
>Do you tend to be impulsive, getting yourself into trouble? or are you 
>more like me, so inclined to safety that you miss many opportunities?
>If you find yourself sitting on the fence "between discretion and
>safety on one hand and sincerity and openness on the other", I would
>suggest you jump to the side that you don't usually! 
>
>As a result of these issues, I've found it easier to come out to
>people whom I care little about, while it's been harder to come out
>to friends with whom I would like to be open and honest. <sigh>
>Just me being human.....
>

Oh god, yes!  The first time I came out, it was to 30,000 faceless
strangers.  :-)  I have yet to tell any friends or family (but people I've
told have become friends. *grin*)  I wish that I could come out, but with
a conservative family and a career choice where image and conformity are
_very_ important (and stessed), it is very hard.  Maybe someday things
will be different -- won't that be nice.  (Please let it be soon.)

>>I feel like Eeyore to day.  But hopefully I will return to my
>>normal old TIgger self.  Tired grin verging on cynicism and resignation
>>(O GOD I NEED HUGS)  I feel _very_ old.  
>>
><<<Hugs, kisses, strokes, and rubs lovingly applied!!!>>>>
>
>Michael
>-- 
>========================================================
>Michael Shiloh			michael@tfs.com
>TRW Financial Systems		(510) 704-3520
>Berkeley, Ca

-James

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Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Subject: Re: YES!  It works!!!
Followup-To: soc.bi
Originator: lunde@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Reply-To: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Organization: Ministry of Silly Walks
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 05:40:16 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.001344.8904@udel.edu> 
 litterst@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Stephen Litterst) writes:
>And why is it
>all of the beautiful 6'2" people are in Europe?  Why don't they make them in
>my size in the U.S.?
>
>					Steve
>					(6'6", and still looking)
>

Well, I've been measured at 6'5" (though lately maybe a bit shorter).

(I don't offer any assurances about the "beautiful" part.)

...It *can* be discouraging being at one end of the bell curve...
though I'm willing to be adjustible, at the same time, my size is
one of various factors that can put off people.

I know I'm tall, but I'm used to thinking of people a foot shorter as
"tall".

-- 
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 Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu |  Bisexual   |      *Y*        tree of life"
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Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: sthor@ctp.com (Sarah Thornburg)
Subject: Re: Sigh...
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners
Distribution: world...
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:42:11 GMT

Steve - it sounds like you needed a hug at 2:00AM last night.  Well,
hopefully things are better in the (questionable) daylight today, but here's
a couple anyway.

HUGHUGHUGHUGHUGHUGHUGHUGHUGHUGHUGHUGHUGHUG  :)

Yeah, I know what you mean about what a great place this is.  I like it too.
It's become a part of who I am, and who my friends are somehow.  It's neat!

*Sarah*  :)

-- 
Sarah Thornburg                    | "Love that dirty water.... 
Cambridge Technology Partners      | Boston you're my home." 
sthor@ctp.com                      |
From: pfieland@citron.sw.stratus.com (Peggy Fieland)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: interesting lunch conversation
Date: 12 Jan 1993 14:59:38 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: citron.sw.stratus.com
Keywords: I'm back

In article <1993Jan11.211827.21314@ctp.com> sthor@ctp.com (Sarah Thornburg) writes:
>I had a very interesting lunch conversation today that I wanted to share,
>just because I think it demonstrates so well how outside the realm of
>thinking bisexuality is to the average public, even those in such a socially
>enlightened company as my own.
> (interesting conversation deleted for space)

Yes, it certainly seemed like this when I was growing up, and I found it
very confusing.  People seem to assume that whatever your sexuality, you
are supposed to feel differently toward men and women.  How confusing this
is for those of us who don't!

At least these days, people have at least heard of bisexuality.	

>I didn't really feel like coming out to the group of them, even though I do
>consider them all morhtan just acquaintances

Well, if you don't , you don't.   I guess the really cool way to come out
would be to drop appropriate stuff into the conversation.  Or you could
mention involvement in some gay-related political organization, hoping
this would bring the conversation around to the point where you could
come out.

Notice I haven't done any of this myself.  I'm not out at all to my group
at work (not yet, anyway).  I don't, however, view Stratus as a particularly
open and accepting company.

Peggy


Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: ktfizazi@burst.Princeton.EDU (Kamal Tayeb Fizazi)
Subject: Re: Any (other) UU Bis out there ?
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University 
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:39:27 GMT

In article <1isjs2INNt11@transfer.stratus.com> pfieland@citron.sw.stratus.com (Peggy Fieland) writes:
>In article <C0pBL0.1Lo@athena.cs.uga.edu> wells@athena.cs.uga.edu (Scott Wells) writes:
>>Subject line says it all, except to ask if any Unitarian Universalist
>>Bi's know about the UU Bisexual Network. It looks new and "outside the
>>loop," but that's my impression from the ad they ran in the _World_
>
>No, sorry, but I'm a UU too, and I'd be interested too.

I am interested too (though I am not a UU... yet;)
>Peggy
Kamal
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Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: dwells@lonestar.utsa.edu (Darren . Wells)
Subject: Re: Set the WayBack Machine (Coming Out)
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:35:00 GMT

In article <16B5310333.SILVERI@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
 SILVERI@QUCDN.QueensU.CA (Silver Tiger) writes:
>In article <C0ozDE.FCo@world.std.com>
>smoir@world.std.com (Scott A Moir) writes:
>>
>>Deanne has a child
>>from a previous marriage, and the issues of organizations like the
>>Massachusetts Department of Social Services (DSS) poking thier nose in
>>have come up as well. (The DSS can come in and take her son, if they feel
>>that he is in an unhealthy environment. They can do that to -anyone- in
>>Mass.. wonderful, isn't it?)
>
>Is there any state where they can't?

In Texas it seems to go too far in the opposite direction.  Here they
have the ability to go in and take your children, but you practically
have to be hanging them from a tree in the front yard and selling
tickets to the beatings before they can, and the kids usually end up
going back to their abusive parents within a couple of days.  It's
tough to imagine wording the laws to where the state can go into a
home and rescue children from an abusive/dangerous environment without
also allowing the state to get carried away, like the CAS.  I guess
the most important element is the people in the agencies - their
definition of "unhealthy environment" seems to be the key factor.

(BTW, I got the info on how Texas does things from a friend of mine
who works for the Department of Human Services here.  The stories she
has told me . . . )

Darren
(throwing in his relatively fluff-free $.02)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: litterst@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Stephen Litterst)
Subject: Re: What to do at a bar?
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:29:26 GMT

In article <1ivaepINNk9m@cuda.add.itg.ti.com> winsor@teng.ppd.ti.com (js) writes:
>In article <tYg=FX+@engin.umich.edu>, rowe@engin.umich.edu (Steven Rowe) writes:
>
>} but I'd have to say more than half are there for sex.  I find it
>} a lot easier to pick up a gay man in these circumstances than a het
>} (or bi) woman who's out at a non-sexual-orientation-labelled bar.
>} But other than it being easier, there's no difference.
>Hey, aren't you on record (tm) as het?
>
>js
>-- 

I fear that the number of Steve's on the group is beginning to confuse people.
Unless I missed Mr. Rowe's going on record as such I'm the only het Steve
on the record (tm).  But I'm here because I'm confused and this seems like a
good place to search for a clue.

						Steve L.

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Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: kay@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Kay Dekker)
Subject: Re: bi badge wanted in UK:advice?
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:09:23 GMT

In article <C0pBHs.Fxy@compsci.liverpool.ac.uk> june@csc.liv.ac.uk (June Cornelius) writes:
>Hi folks,

Hi June - is this a demuffining? don't remember seeing you around here
before, that's all... if so - WELCOME!

>	Just a quick question.  I want to buy a nice bi badge - something
>like an "invisiBIlity" or a "bi" on a triangle, or something like that.
>I live in Liverpool, though I would find it not too difficult to pick
>one up from Cardiff or London (The power of contacts ;-) and I want to
>know if anyone can give me an idea of where to pick one up (a badge that
>is ;-) if all else fails I could quite fancy a pink triangle.  Any ideas?

The easiest way I know of to get hold of bi badges in the UK is through
Bifrost, our own monthly magazine.  Unfortunately, I don't have the
address to hand it's on another machine five miles away :(), but I'm
sure that Ciaran or Dave or Paul or Sara or... oh... anybody here in
the UK will beat me to it.

They're very nice: my favourite of the moment has BiSexy as the text;
others are Politically Bi, and (cryptically) Assume Nothing.  There
are plenty of other designs.

I'll bring the Bifrost contact address in with me tomorrow, even if
I can't find the file here, so it'll be with you soon.

>p.s. That's a nice "bi" badge - not a "nice bi" badge or a "good bi" badge
>- now that's got potential! :-)

Yes, it has - suggest it to the Bifrost folk and they'll probably produce
it.

				Kay
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Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid)
Subject: Re: treating men as sex toys
Organization: Eris's Restaurant
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:21:30 GMT

In article <MUFFY.93Jan6103005@remarque.berkeley.edu> muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy) writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.105512.2001@infodev.cam.ac.uk> gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry) writes:
>>What do you mean by "emotional partner" (as distinct from a close friend)?
>Well, for me, it really isn't that distinct, actually...*smile*.  I
>realized a couple of years ago that the only difference between my close
>friends and my lovers was how much I wanted to have sex with them.

Yeh.  No... not "wanting to", but "having", because otherwise it gets
far too complicated - by your definition, one of my lovers is thousands
of miles away and I've never met him.  Sort of a "pre-pro-lover",
perhaps.

					Kay
-- 
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37 Old Winnings Road, Keresley Village, Coventry   |B0 f t+ g++ k++! s+ e r p!
Phone: +44 203 838668 (work) +44 203 337865 (home) |Deflowerer-of-innocents
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore)
Subject: Re: AS long as we are hugging...
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 02:02:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.021922.24009@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> barlow@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Rebel) writes:
>Well I thought that if Roy could ask for a hug then I could to...God knows I
>need one today....SO how about it, can a muffin get a hug?
>
>:-) Jen
>
OK I'm late.  I know.  But HUG HUG HUG hug hug hug.
hug hug. and snuggle.
and then as you were amuffin.
hug kiss snuggle.
fluff.
welcome to a family.

-- 
Jim Dilmore - seamus@brahms.udel.edu    or    dilmore@che.udel.edu 
   Deconstruct your Gender          Safe sex doesn't mean no sex.          
Give me life, Give me pain,         It just means use your imagination. 
Give me myself again.  Tori Amos.            Billy Bragg 
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: Moving to England
Organization: Cuddlehogs Anonymous
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 10:03:29 GMT

In article <C0LyBE.517@kathunk.phaedrav.on.ca> nigel@kathunk.phaedrav.on.ca (Nigel M Burnett) writes:
:Feb 1.  The company that fired me without notice back in September
:wants me to take care of all of their computers in England and the
:rest of Europe (about 15 now - double that in 6 months?), install
:them, fix them and answer all the questions of the users.  After

Charge the bastards double.  At least.

:E-mail in the UK will be really iffy - I'll probably have to do
:it myself.  If anyone wants to send me a mailing address/telephone
:number, that might be pretty useful.  Assuming anyone wants to see
:me :-)}.

Bring a modem with you - PC internal V32bis might be easiest.  With that,
email isn't a problem.  Note this phone number now since you won't have
net access to find it out until you get net access :-) ... 081 863 1191
- that's the Ibmpc User group - they have a dial-in BBS.  Or if you want
full internet access pretty cheaply, 081 343 3881 for demon systems.

If you want somewhere transitional to forward mail to when you move, you
can have an account on my home box.  Mail me for the phone no if you want
it.

G
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: miket@hermes.tcs.com (Michael Turner nmscore Assoc.)
Subject: Re: Purity
Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:10:20 GMT

In article <93007.150703SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
>   Mike, why does disagreeing with you about a very small subset of social
>   tactics and a (probably larger) subset of rules about appropriate
>   language use make me obtuse?

The precise sense of "obtuse" that I meant it is:

	Obtuse ... 1 b: difficult to comprehend: not clear or precise
	in thought or expression (~ language) ... [Webster's Ninth
	New College Dictionary]

When someone asks "what are you", or, perhaps, "what is your sexual
orientation", and you answer "a people", with a rather long hidden
agenda for choosing that answer (an agenda that you finally supplied,
thank you), it's safe to say that you are being obtuse.

>   Annoying, sure; I'm afraid I've given up on not being annoying.

Yeah, I wouldn't sweat that one if I were you, either.
---
Michael Turner
miket@tcs.com
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: bryant@icd.teradyne.com (Wayne Bryant)
Subject: Re: Set the WayBack Machine (Coming Out)
Reply-To: bryant@icd.teradyne.com
Organization: Teradyne, Inc. Boston MA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:19:12 GMT

In article SILVERI@QUCDN.QueensU.CA, SILVERI@QUCDN.QueensU.CA (Silver Tiger) writes:

>That's a real conversation stopper, let me tell ya.  You don't get that
>kind of reaction when you tell them you've lost your job, or you've had
>a car wreck, this one's a real doozy.


Of course, the reason the silence is worse in this case is that most people
eventually recover from car wrecks and lost jobs.  Fortunately, such 'recovery'
is not an expected outcome for us.  Party on!

					Wayne
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (Piglet)
Subject: Re: Nick pops in to say hi again
Organization: who, me?
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 04:58:30 GMT

In article <9301315.8182@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> nsn@ee.mu.OZ.AU (Nick Nicholas) writes:
>*Cuddle to Laurie8, with gentle reprimand on Eccles impersonation*

What time is it, Eccles?

Uh, just a minute.  I've got it written on a piece of
paper.  A nice man wrote the time down for me this
morning.  It says on this piece of paper here, it says,
what it's eight o'clock.

I wish I had a piece of paper like that.  Let me hold this
piece of paper to my ear.  Hey, this piece of paper's not 
going!

I've been sold a forgery!

No wonder it stopped at eight o'clock.  You need one of those
things my grandad's got.  It's one of those things, it is, what
wakes him up at eight o'clock, boils the kettle and pours a
cup of tea.

What's it called?

Me grandma!

Well, how does she know when it's eight o'clock?

She's got it written down on a piece of paper!


-Ruthlessly mangled from a 10-year old memory (sniff) of
 my _favorite_ Goon Show episode........Piglet
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: litterst@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Stephen Litterst)
Subject: Re: Urgent notice!
Keywords: Make up your own.
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 01:32:40 GMT

In article <1inb3rINN4ou@cuda.add.itg.ti.com> winsor@Not Heresomewhere.out.there (js) writes:
>fluffiness
>
>john
>-- 

Well, maybe if all of us got together and fluffed each other up, we'd be
able to achieve our fluffiness quota. (in addition to achieving other things
hehehehe ;-)) 

						Steve

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Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: dwells@lonestar.utsa.edu (Darren . Wells)
Subject: Re: Australians (was Re: accidently out)
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:30:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.190115.24205@cbnews.cb.att.com>
 eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (Piglet) writes:
>In article <93005.003442SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
 Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
>>In article <1993Jan4.204539.28035@cbnews.cb.att.com>,
 eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com
>>(Piglet) says:
>>>
>>>In article <1993Jan4.192506.4720@dcs.warwick.ac.uk>
 kay@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Kay
>>>Dekker) writes:
>>>>As someone who has long wished to traumatise Ms Bush, I'm now not
>>>[mass deletions, before and after]

Pooh!  Another fun thread I have obviously missed out on.  All I get
is this little teaser line . . .

>Well, maybe I need to be strapped down and forced to listen to
>a KB album or two (hint, hint), but I have my doubts.

Allow me to do the honors sometime.  ;)  I understand how you might feel
about her, because her stuff is rather, er, unorthodox, but if you
are exposed in small quantities over time she is addicting. (addictive?)

>Piglet

Darren
From: winsor@geek. (js)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: general dissatisfaction
Date: 11 Jan 1993 19:43:39 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments
Distribution: world
Reply-To: winsor@geek. (js)
NNTP-Posting-Host: geek.teng.ppd.ti.com


   And I am so pleased that you know Sandman!  Fourth series is which?

No, *I* don't.  And after reading several posts about the blamed
stuff.  I have mustered (mustard? :-)) the will to admit it.
So there.  Now tell me, for gossakes, what the Hell "Sandman" is?


   btw---for general knowledge....
   Jim gives really good hugs.  (Thanks, Jim!)
And Jim needs to demostrate, now...

   Zoe
   (feeling nice and fuzzy after white Zinfandel and Jim's hugs)
Wonderful!  Now, how do I get mine, too?!  "Jim" that is,
I can handle the white zinfandel myself.  *grin*

john "it's only 2500 miles or so"  js
   
wink wink nudge nudge saynomore saynomore
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Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore)
Subject: Re: Purity
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 04:06:30 GMT

In article <C0D0wn.GLo@news.udel.edu> seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore) writes:
>?
>Am I being dense?
>I haven't a clue what he was saying.
>Help?
>
O god I am dumb as shit.
Dense is not the right word.  Supercritical maybe.
We're looking at black hole limits here.
boy.
"Nothing is left for you to do at this moment but laugh."

-- 
Jim Dilmore - seamus@brahms.udel.edu    or    dilmore@che.udel.edu 
   Deconstruct your Gender          Safe sex doesn't mean no sex.          
Give me life, Give me pain,         It just means use your imagination. 
Give me myself again.  Tori Amos.            Billy Bragg
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 12:34:48 EST
From: Ellen <DICKSONE@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: A hug request and a general growl at the world
 <1993Jan4.152623.26270@specialix.co.uk>

>I am quite annoyed with being closetted. I want to be out and sincere with the
>people who I meet and know.
>I have a question for the bunch. Where does the balance lie between discretion
>and safety on one hand and sincerity and openness on the other?

oh oh  I know that one... *ouch*  I came out to my family about 6 years ago
and that was quite hellish, though in the end things turned out ok.  My parents
were incredibly strict Catholics who have (partly due to me) mellowed
somewhat.  I haven't actually dated a woman in a long time, and I get the
feeling that my parents have assumed that `it was a phase'
  The safety aspect tho: walking a lady friend home the other night (we were
arm-in-arm) we got some choise comments from some of the locals.  It's scary
out there.

>Hugs to all exmuffins. I will get to posting as soon as I get out of this funk.
>Thank you for allowing me to ramble.  I know that I did too.

Hug back (front, whatever)!  I like rambling... especially through a wood on a
cold and sunny day.

-Ellen
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