HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dskimish@nyx.cs.du.edu (David Skimishara)
Subject: Re: Flame at will
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 03:49:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov2.194435.2687@ntmtv> wattsww@ntmtv.UUCP (Warren Watts) writes:
>>
>>Rap is Crap
>>Oh yeah
>>Rap is Crap
>>Dooogy Dooogy Doo
>>If your a rapper
>>Your a slapper
>>Cor rapping is so difficult to do
>>You might as well shove it down the loo
>>
>>Listen to metal
>>It will sort you out (maybe not, it may be too late for you)
>>
>>WHO THE FUCK IS THIS GUY???!!!???
>>
>>Even if I don't like a type of music, I don't dis it like this.  This a**hole
>>needs to wake up and smell what he's shovelin'!  Ladies and Gentlemen, feel free
>>to open fire on this guy!
>>
>Keep it in the mail, don't give this guy the satisfaction of fucking
>up our group with this nonsequiter crap.
>
>Peace, 
>	 Warren Watts
>
Yeah, I know if  I were to post something like this it would be to get
people to flame me.  So don't give him the satisfaction.
Dave
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Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (T-Dub - SGP '92)
Subject: Re: The Devil
Reply-To: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 04:53:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.171726.1338@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (K-Mello SGP '92) writes:
>have a question, if anybody out there can answer it.  If 5 percenters are the
>5% of the population who are "civilized", and 85% of the population is
>"uncivilized", what about the other 10% of the population?
>
>K-Mello
>SHYGUY Productions '92

The 10% are the ones who have the same knowledge as the 5% (I believe), but
instead of passing the knowledge on freely, they sell it, a.k.a. Big-Paying-$15
to $20 or more-To-See Farrakhan?  I suppose those that recite the truths on
record don't consider themselves selling the knowledge.  I guess not, since
their albums are not fully comprised on teachings and it is basically music
where they may 'decide' to drop some knowledge, perhaps by chance.  But, they
are really just selling the music, not the info.....

                                           T-Dub
                                           SHYGUY productions
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Lord Finnesse
From: Olayinka Kolawole <ok22+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Fri,  6 Nov 1992 16:33:59 -0500 
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Yes the name of Lord Finesse's album was Return of the Funky Man and
beleive me that is one of the PHATTEST albums ever made....in my
personal opinion he tekes out a lot of emcees that people give props
to...e.g Fife (yes Fife!), Ice Cube even...etc... I know most of you
won't agree with me, but a  true emcee does not have fat beats but is
also poetic...Finesse got MAD lyrics!.

    "girls come to my house in a trench and see through...
     they love Heavy D but shit... they love me too..."

                                                ...going against the flow..
                                                     Hotsauce the Flavor Kid..


Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: sl313028@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (The black guy.)
Subject: Re: Lord Finnesse
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 13:21:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.113410.26987@spider.co.uk> gavinm@spider.co.uk (Gavin McCallum) writes:
>What was the Title of Lord Finesse's last lp?.....
return of the funkyman (if memory serves me)
he may have had something after that, but i dont think so.
>
>And is he still down with the Syndicate??.....
i didnt even know he was in the first place, although i stopped
listening to 'im after his first album (which was pretty dope..."baby
thats nasty!")
>
>Does anyone fancy a review of The Son Noise lp "The Mighty Son Of Noise"?.
>If enough do I'll write it over the weekend!.
go ahead.
>
>Peace
shalom
>
>Gee
> 
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-jon
sl313028@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
(the anointed nubian)
From: mc78+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Anthony Carnevale)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Positive K
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:20:54 GMT
Organization: Sophomore, Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

rojohnso@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu (Ronald Johnson) writes:

>P.S. What dyall think of Lyte's "Ice Cream Dream"?? I have the Mo Money sound-
>track, but I never really cared for the song because of the silly name ( Im
>jaded like that :) ) But the other day I heard it on the radio, and thought,
>Hmmm...this has *some* flayva

I kind of liked it, even though it messed with EPMD's classic "So What
cha Sayin" sample.  It's a little too much on the R&B, Flyte Tyme style,
though.  And yeah, that title is one of those that would make you not
like the song, period.

-Mc
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: c162-du@po.berkeley.edu (bishwaroop ganguly)
Subject: Re: NWA is outa there
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:19:15 GMT


     Please post the article 'cause I can't see how Eazy-E would want to sue 
MC Ren who's latest EP is ON Ruthless (and went platinum). Him suing Dre and
Ice Cube I can understand, though. Turns out Eric is the punk that Ice Cube 
said he was.

                                           -Roop
From: jms38@po.CWRU.Edu (Jason M. Snyder)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Malcolm X: The movie
Date: 13 Nov 1992 18:14:03 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: jms38@po.CWRU.Edu (Jason M. Snyder)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


Question: Has anyone heard anything about the movie? when is it coming out?
          Is it going to provoke more hostility?  
  
               What does everyone think?
      
         PEACE, 
	       j
From: sbhimji@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Sam Bhimji)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: ICE CUBE/T
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 10:15:25 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

- >Does Ice T have an album called INSTITUTIONALIZED coming out (or is it
- Ice T's new album is called Home Invasion, look for it on Nov 10th.
- Look for Ice-T, Public Enemy, and BDP on tour!  They are coming
- to Buffalo Nov 29, and I am THERE!!!

Any info. if this is like a world tour?? If so, are they making their way 
to Western Canada?? Any info PULEASE!


Sam Bhimji              sbhimji@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 
Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
From: scott@phylo.life.uiuc.edu (Snooky Fudge)
Subject: Re: Snow and Ice
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:27:26 GMT

On Wisconsin:
I believe the State Patrol will give you a mighty expenisive ticket
if they catch you ripping up State Highways with studded tires, without
concern for your resident status.
--
Coffee Facts from Dr. Science:
1) You can never brew coffee too strong.
2) You can never drink too much coffee.
3) Coffee does not make you nervous.  Your own inadequacies do that.
   Coffee merely increases your perception of your own inadequacies.
4) Tea is to coffee as ginger ale is to Scotch.
Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
From: bjork@telebit.com (Steven Bjork)
Subject: LA is Not Northern California, was Re: I'd move back to Michigan IF . . .
Organization: Telebit Corporation; Sunnyvale, CA, USA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:54:15 GMT

In article <VLB=J0-@engin.umich.edu> Jeffrey Stuit <Jeffrey.Stuit@um.cc.umich.edu> writes:
>In article <BxGw8G.4xu@well.sf.ca.us> Kathleen Creighton,
>casey@well.sf.ca.us writes:
>>1.  Michiganders were more tolerant of differences.
>
>I'm not sure that the Rodney King beating & L.A. Riots show that
>Californians are any more tolerant of differences that Michiganders.

Comment:
Southern California elected ronnie reagan gov and is a John Birch Society
stronghold.

Point:
LA is Not the same as Northern California.

Surrealism:
Heck, Berkeley's probably the largest Communist Enclave in the world
at this point :).

...Steven has a beard but is not communist
From: RC.CMY@forsythe.stanford.edu (Carolyn Ybarra)
Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
Subject: re: homesick in autumn
Date: 12 Nov 1992 16:43:12 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

Thankfully my email whatever inadvertantly deleted most of the
articles about homesick in Autumn!  I read the first posting and
immediately skipped over the others because the first one made me so
incredibly homesick!!  And sad. I was gonna go back and read the
responses, but they were gone by the time I got to it.

I am truly a misplaced Michigander here in northern California.  I
have been here off and on since 1981, and it is still not "home."
Sure, the weather is great and you can go to the ocean or the
mountains easily.  But there are no great sunsets, no great fall
colors, the trees are the wrong height...  and on and on.  It's just
not home.  I'll admit that after spending six months last year in
Atlanta, Palo Alto felt more like home for the first time.  But it's
still not Michigan, especially in Autumn, my favorite.  No smell of
dried up old leaves.  Fewer crisp days.  No hot cider at football
games.

Maybe if all of us who would like to go back if we could get jobs -
if we all got together we could start a company and locate it in
Michigan...  Nice fantasy, huh?

Here's a weird thought:  I wonder if part of what makes Michigan
so nice is that so many people have to leave?  Maybe we keep the
population down and make the living more "rural."  Or maybe leaving
is what makes it so nostalgic:  "How can I miss you if you won't go
away?"

-Carolyn.Ybarra@forsythe.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
From: Jeffrey Stuit <Jeffrey.Stuit@um.cc.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Snow and Ice
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 12:01:25 EST
Organization: Industrial Development Div. - Univ. of Michigan
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

In article <7NOV199215214797@zeus.tamu.edu> ALEXANDER,
sea7399@zeus.tamu.edu writes:
>Does anyone know if studded tires are legal in Wisconsin, the UP, and
lower
>Michigan?

Studded tires are illegal in all of Michigan, and have been since
sometime in the 
1970's.  They suposedly caused too much damage to road surfaces.
Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
From: bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon)
Subject: Re: I'd move back to Michigan IF . . .
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:35:55 GMT

In article <BxGw8G.4xu@well.sf.ca.us> casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton) writes:
>1.  Michiganders were more tolerant of differences.

we aren't?

>2.  I could live rural and still get a decent job.

it's possible, depending on how far you're willing to drive, or what
you define as "decent", or just how badly your skill is needed.

>3.  Someone else would plow the snow on my property and drive me to
>    and from work every day :-).

how much are you going to pay for the service?
(don't look at me; I'd do it only only if I'm married to you. :) )

-bacon, another UP looney
Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
From: Jeffrey Stuit <Jeffrey.Stuit@um.cc.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: I'd move back to Michigan IF . . .
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 17:10:05 EST
Organization: Industrial Development Div. - Univ. of Michigan
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

In article <BxGw8G.4xu@well.sf.ca.us> Kathleen Creighton,
casey@well.sf.ca.us writes:
>1.  Michiganders were more tolerant of differences.

I'm not sure that the Rodney King beating & L.A. Riots show that
Californians are any more tolerant of differences that Michiganders.

>2.  I could live rural and still get a decent job.

I live  rural (about 30 miles away from Ann Arbor) and have a pretty good
job.  You
can do it if you don't mind driving a long way.
From: robin@fisher.bio.uci.edu (Robin Bush)
Subject: Re: homesick in Autumn
Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
Reply-To: robin@fisher.bio.uci.edu
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:34:39 GMT

In article <cicero.1uky@hotcity.COM> cicero@hotcity.COM (Andreas Locicero)  
writes:
> The weird thing is that I may soon have to return to Michigan. 
> I have very mixed feelings about it.  I will be near my family, and in a
>familiar environment, (Yes Meijers) but I will also feel isolated in a  
>way that I don't feel on the coasts.  I wonder how can it be sane to live  
>with 6 months of cold weather (much of which is slushy and wet not  
>magical) and live in an almost dead city like Detroit.
>I always miss michigan, and when I'm there I always want to stay longer,  
>(It's so georgeous up north in the summer), but at the same time I want  
>to live somewhere better.

>Anyone else ever feel like that?
> A.J. LoCicero >> cicero@hotcity.com 

OK, I admit it, after not living there for awhile, one does tend to forget  
about how most of urban Michigan looks after so many years of  economic  
depression.  We went to see that movie about GM and Flint "Roger and Me"  
last year to hoping to get some views of Michigan - what we got was the  
part of Michigan I forget, but shouldn't, seeing as I am from Muskegon.  
Boarded up downtowns, urban renewal that never got past tearing down old  
buildings. Incredibly run-down neighborhoods. Lots and lots of poor  
people, and no jobs to be found (hey - maybe Clinton will do something??). 

The last year I was in Ann Arbor I had a boyfriend who had  grown up in  
Detroit.  We used to take his kids out for rides late at night to show  
them the places Daddy used to live when he was a kid.  In some of those  
neighborhoods most of the houses had been bulldozed into their basements,  
the rest were boarded up or had been burnt out.  One day we saw ring-neck  
pheasants downtown by the Art Institute in one of those urban-renewalized  
city blocks that had been left to grow up in weeds. 

----------------------------------------------------------
Robin
From: prb@chinet.chi.il.us (Paul Botts)
Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
Subject: Re: surfing in Lake Superior?
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:54:04 GMT
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX

Whoops, lost the original posting....anyway, I don't know about Lake
Superior (BRRRRRR!), but it seems there are people surfing on the Great
Lakes. I have in front of me an article from the July 1988 issue of the
"Great Lakes Reporter" on the subject. There is apparently a Great Lakes
Surfing Association, and an annual Great Lakes Surfing Championship in
Grand Haven, Michigan. There are surfing shops in several towns,
including Grand Haven, and Zion, Illinois, and the Detroit area. No
exact addresses or phone numbers, though.
Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
From: cjt1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Charles Ten Brink)
Subject: Re: I'd move back to Michigan IF . . .
Reply-To: cjt1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:46:24 GMT

In article <BxGw8G.4xu@well.sf.ca.us> casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton) writes:
>
>1.  Michiganders were more tolerant of differences.

I'm sure you can come up with a lot of examples of intolerance (Howell, for
instance.)  I would like to offer one counter-example.  My home county,
Oceana, has for years been the site of the midwest women's music festival.
It takes place on a farm out in the middle of nowhere (near Ferry, for those
in the know) and includes all sorts of goings-on that one would think might
be offensive to the more traditional mind-set:  nudity, lesbianism, 
feminism, weird music, witchcraft, etc.

The locals could not possibly care less.  When a few of the attendees
find their way to Brown's or Cherry Hill for groceries, they may draw
some surprised looks (being that bodyart is not frequently displayed
in the area) but they get no hassles.  I think a lot of people in rural
areas are descendents of those who went there to be let alone, and are
more than willing to reciprocate.
--Chuck Ten Brink



-- 
D'Angelo Law Library         "The dogmas of the quiet past are
cjt1@midway.uchicago.edu      inadequate to the stormy present. . .
uclcjt1@uchimvs1              We must disenthrall ourselves. . ."
Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
From: todd@chester.cms.udel.edu (Todd Sanders)
Subject: Re: homesick in Autumn
Reply-To: todd@chester.cms.udel.edu
Organization: Marine Studies, University of Delaware
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 01:57:47 GMT

In article 92Nov1082954@kropotkin.gnu.ai.mit.edu, beh@kropotkin.gnu.ai.mit.edu (various Howellses) writes:
>
>So, here I am in Boston, and it's autumn, and don't you know, I'm homesick
>for my Michigan. 

>I miss Michigan...and I want to go back.  The mere fact that I will be in
>New Jersey for Thanksgiving distresses me, particularly the place to which
>we are going.  And I shall have my first ever Christmas away, in a place
>where there is bound to be no accumulated snow...
>
>oh well...
>
>--Nancy

Reading all the posts on missing Michigan, made me home sick. Reading the post that Nancy would have to spend on of my favorite Michigan holidays in New Jersey made me feel very sad for her.  Just remember Nancy , it' only for a couple of days.  

Here in Delaware, the majority of the undergrads are NJ residents,  and although I don't remember everything from my days at Michigan State.  I don't remember all the students being quite so irritating.  But about Michigan instead:  I will share a typcial Thanksgiving day with everyone;

My father and I get up at 5 am and get our deer hunting gear into the truck.  We meet my Grandpa, uncle and cousin at a farm which adjoins my uncle's house.  We hunt until noon.
I never told my relatives,  but I never shot at any of the deer,  I never had any intention to ever shoot one.  They look very majestic in the morning light.  And when the deer don't know you are there,  it is a wonderful experience.

Home around noon;  the house just is filled to the max with the smells of TURKEY!!!
My Mom's folks come over around 1:30, just as we get ready to sit down and fufill the other important Holiday tradition:  Watching the Lions.  

The Lion game goes, Dad bitches,  and my Grandma gaurantees me that she did bring Chocolate cake with her. After years of practice,  my Mom has skillfully mastered the art of having the Turkey done and with everyone's help, the table set, by half time.  

Endulge one's self in tons of food until your really fat,  beg to let the dishes sit until after the game ( if it is worth watching after the first half), and grab some of Grandma's Chocolate Cake.

This is 2 years running I'll be in De. for Thanksgiving.  It is beautiful nearby in SE Pennsylvania, in the foot hills. But W. Michigan in the Fall , the best.

Peace,

Todd
From: cicero@hotcity.COM (Andreas Locicero)
Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
Subject: Re: homesick in Autumn
Date: 4 Nov 92 12:10:20 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <2AF56522.739@news.service.uci.edu>, robin@fisher.bio.uci.edu (Robin
Bush) writes:
>In article <BEH.92Nov1082954@kropotkin.gnu.ai.mit.edu>  
>beh@kropotkin.gnu.ai.mit.edu (various Howellses) writes:
>> 
>> So, here I am in Boston, and it's autumn, and don't you know, I'm  
>homesick for my Michigan. 
>
>
>I second it from southern CA.  It is still t-shirt weather here, and the  

Well I'm from MI too, and I've lived in Boston (4 years) and now I'M Out here
in Morgan Hill near San Jose.  I know you both mean, but I've found things to
love about all three places.  New england has great fall colors itself, go up
to New Hampshire, or Maine, I love the new england towns, and the cooking (Mmm
chowda, on a hot day!) and the whole ambiance, (not to mention the proximity of
NYC, New Jersy, Washington etc.).  Out here I miss snow, but then again I
don't.  It's WARM!  I can go walking/bike riding/camping Year round.  If I must
have snow, it is a few miles away in the Sierra.  I think the sunsets here are
beautiful!!!  And with the winter rains, all the hills will turn emerald green!
 The weird thing is that I may soon have to return to Michigan. 
 I have very mixed feelings about it.  I will be near my family, and in a
familiar environment, (Yes Meijers) but I will also feel isolated in a way that
I don't feel on the coasts.  I wonder how can it be sane to live with 6 months
of cold weather (much of which is slushy and wet not magical) and live 
in an almost dead city like Detroit.
I always miss michigan, and when I'm there I always want to stay longer, (It's
so georgeous up north in the summer), but at the same time I want to live
somewhere better.

Anyone else ever feel like that?

A.J. LoCicero >> cicero@hotcity.com

The opinions expressed above ARE those of my employer!
This message comes to you from beautiful Morgan Hill, California, U.S.A.:
The front line in the war against suburbanization!
Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
From: bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon)
Subject: Re: LA is Not Northern California, was Re: I'd move back to Michigan IF . . .
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:40:18 GMT

In article <BxIEBz.KC8@well.sf.ca.us> casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton) writes:
>Well, Michigan has had its share of "hate crimes", but I'm not even talking
>about violence.  I'm talking about being around people who use epithets
>as easily as breathing.  Or maybe I'd be more suited to the UP, which is
>more laid back :-).

Seems like the only "hate crimes" up here occur after the beer runs out,
and generally involves someone having forgotten to buy more. :)

-bacon
From: loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu (Sandra Loosemore)
Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
Subject: Re: surfing in Lake Superior?
Date: 11 Nov 1992 09:29:59 -0500
Organization: staff hacker @ Yale Haskell project
	<BxJynM.2F8@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: functor.systemsz.cs.yale.edu
In-reply-to: charbonn@silver.ucs.indiana.edu's message of Wed, 11 Nov 1992 12:57:22 GMT

Well, I've never tried surfing, but as a kid I always *did* like to
go inner-tubing on the lake when there were big waves....

-Sandra
Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
From: stick@lopez.marquette.MI.US (Stick)
Subject: Re: Great Lakes
X-bbs-room: Great Lakes Net (room #202)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:37:56 EST
Organization: Great White North/UPLink

allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren) writes:

>eam13@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Madigan) writes:


>>Ahhh!  Funny how it goes both ways.  Here I am in the Cleveland
>>area and missing boring old Columbus.  I live a half mile from
>>Lake Erie and can play on a beach just about any time I want,
>>but I was in Columbus for 8 years....  I thgink my solution would
>>be to move all of my Columbus family up here and have the best
>>of both worlds.  At least I can count on enough snow to go
>>cross country skiing-that was never much of an option in Columbus.

>It looks like from your internet address that you're attending Case.
>If so, and remembering what I do about that area, and not knocking
>Cleveland at all, but I can understand some of the missing of 
>Columbus.  Still, after having recently been in both Cleveland and
>Columbus on business trips, I still say Columbus is, IMHO, more fun
>to be in.

   Yeah, but she's right near the University Circle, the cultural heart of
the city, as well as being a stone's throw from a beach.


Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
From: casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton)
Subject: Re: LA is Not Northern California, was Re: I'd move back to Michigan IF . . .
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:40:47 GMT


Well, Michigan has had its share of "hate crimes", but I'm not even talking
about violence.  I'm talking about being around people who use epithets
as easily as breathing.  Or maybe I'd be more suited to the UP, which is
more laid back :-).