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From: sherw@ocf.berkeley.edu (Gregory Sherwin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: I'm Waiting for the Band
Date: 22 Jan 1993 01:51:47 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
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In article <93021.190531MNS103@psuvm.psu.edu> <MNS103@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Once again, the music industry has shortchanged alternative music by failing to
>recognize the genre in the 1993 Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame.  For the second year

yeah, well - think about it.  the rock 'n roll hall of fame is about as cheesy
as eurodisney is to french culture (whatever they have that they call it
that).  And even then - the French could open a hall of pretentious
self-aggrandizement, but who would want to be in that either?

give respect where respect is due I say, and not at some pop
institution geared for tourists and the like.

greg

and I'm afraid you're not too far off with the subject line!

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From: higham@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Hoodoo Gurus
Date: 24 Jan 93 23:38:35 GMT
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <PL1083O@math.fu-berlin.de>, Cannam@de.ZIB-Berlin.sc (Chris Cannam) writes:
> 
> In article <1jnnrvINNfn7@ub.d.umn.edu> shenness@ub.d.umn.edu (   HENN) writes:
> 
>    I was wondering if there are many Hoodoo Gurus fans out there. Does anyone
>    know if they are working on a new disc?  I saw them live 2 years ago in
>    Minneapolis, (when they were touring for 'Kinky') and they were great! Just
>    wondering who else knows about them.
> 
> Oh yeah, I remember them.  The first album (_Stoneage Romeos_) was
> great -- quite wild and really stupid --, but I only have a very weak
> copy of it and I don't think it's available any more, which is a
> shame; _Blow Your Cool_ was very good, and _Magnum Cum Louder_ (or
> whatever it's called) wasn't -- it sounded like someone had said hey!
> why don't you try to sound a bit like REM ?, and they'd tried and
> failed.  And then I gave up.  I've never heard any of the _10,000
> Miles_ stuff except "I Think You Know" (a b-side to something), which
> is all right I suppose.
> 
> Was there an album between _Stoneage Romeos_ and _Blow Your Cool_?
> 

Mars Needs Guitars.

-- 
Tom Higham,                    
Radiocarbon Dating Lab,
University of Waikato,
Hamilton,
NEW ZEALAND.
Higham@waikato.ac.nz /
C14@waikato.ac.nz
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:20:39 EST
From: <JDB129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Minor Threat
 <1993Jan22.152051.4128@wam.umd.edu>
 <PA_AML.93Jan22162032@dec17.coe.northeastern.edu> <1jquhuINNdn8@phakt.usc.edu>
 <1993Jan26.151352.3095@dct.ac.uk>

I noticed alot of posting about "straight edge" and Minor threat and was wonder
ing what ever happened to Minor Threat.  I have their complete discography whic
h is excellent, did they release anything else after that?
From: edklein@well.sf.ca.us (Ed Klein)
Subject: Re: songs with rain..
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:18:09 GMT


Heavenly Bodies - "Rains On Me"

--------
Ed Klein
eklein%slate@mcimail.com
From: bc629@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Wright)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Red Crayola / Spacemen 3 / Galaxie 500
Date: 21 Jan 1993 13:37:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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I don't have any Red Crayola records but I do know that 
'Transparent Radiation' is from the first RC album _Parable of
Arable Land_, which came out sometime in the mid-late '60s.
The second LP was called _God Bless the Red Crayola and All Who
Sail With Her_ (or something like that).  I've seen these two
LPs available on a single CD, but can't recall what label did
the re-issue.  The _Soldier-Talk_ LP that Malcolm Humes mentioned
was a late-'70s 'comeback' LP.  Don't know what LP the Galazie
500 cover is from.  Hope that helped. . .
-- 
******* Jeff Wright ******* bc629@cleveland.freenet.edu ********
"I found out that if you get the pitch adjust slider on a turn-
table and ram it up and down really quick while listening to the
Boo Radleys it sounds JUST like MBV" -- the missing Julian Lawton
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From: goldhame@spot.Colorado.EDU (Goldhammer)
Subject: Re: A Question...
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 03:56:24 GMT

moleface@next01cville.wam.umd.edu (Moleface) writes:

>In article <1993Jan6.174038.20551@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>  
>goldhame@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Mark Goldhammer) writes:
>> 
>>    This probably has nothing to do with a.m.a., but I thought some
>> kind soul out there would tell me what a 'flame' is.  I keep seeing
>> it on the net, so I must know...
>> 
>>    Thanks in advance,
>>    Mark

>YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE!!!!!  YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT!!!!!  WHO DO YOU THINK YOU  
>ARE HAVING OPINIONS LIKE THAT??!!!??  GO TO HELL!!! DIE!!!! DIE!!!!!!!!!     
>DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>That's what a flame is.

>Moleface

 Yeesh.  That does not seem like a very nice thing to do.
From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Gingerbread Men
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:38:53 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

Anybody out there heard of an Austin band called the "Gingerbread Men"?
I saw them live last week at a place called "724" in Wichita Falls, TX. (an
alternative music oasis in the middle of the most redneck wasteland this side
of Lubbock). I think they're a 5 piece band with
a drummer, bassist, keyboard, sax and trumpet. Definitely a "must see" if they
come to your town. I've never before heard a real horn section in a "cutting
edge, alternative music band" that was as good as these guys were. I didn't
get to stick around after the show to see if they have an album out yet or not
but if anybody else out there has more info on this group please post.
-- 
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	      doh #0000001200
         "Let us learn to dream, gentlemen, and then perhaps
          we shall learn the truth." -- August Kekule' (1890)
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:27:33 -0500 
From: "Nathan J. Nagel" <nn22+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Help with NIN songs
	<1993Jan21.084851.1520@maths.tcd.ie>

>>    Does anyone have any ideas for the titles to the songs listed
>>    as numbers 98 and 99 on the Nine Inch Nails EP "Broken"?
> 
>>    And if so, would anyone have a copy of the lyrics to those
>>    songs they could mail me or post?
> 
>>    With much appreciation in advance...
> 
>>        alex
 

>The first song is a cover of an Adam&the Ants song 'phy-si-cal' , and the
>second is a remix (I think) of a song originally done by Trent with Pigface.
>I read that it was called 'Sick', but it sounds more like 'Suck' to me. (Or
>is that the other way around...) I'll listen to them again and see if I can
>figure the lyrics out, but maybe the original of track 98 would be more 
>help. Until then.......

    The song is indeed "Suck", it's also on the Pigface disc "Welcome to
Mexico... Asshole".  The disc is a bootleg, by some label called
Invisible.  Sorry, no lyrics were included, but the words are a lot
clearer on the Pigface disc if anyone wants to have a shot at cracking
them.

-Nate
From: v133kdq8@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (DR. JAZZ)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Long live KENNEDY
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:32:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Good day good people!

In article <26JAN93.15384948.0048@MUSIC.TCS.TULANE.EDU>, EN61AFU@MUSIC.TCS.TULANE.EDU (EN61AFU) writes...
>I think Kennedy is the best VJ MTV has had to date.  Not only
>is she witty, smart and talented but she is a vision of beauty
>to boot (she also graduated the same year I did, maybe that's
>part of my bias,[nostalgia]).  Heard she got married a month or
>so ago, too bad.  The only bad part about her being on MTV is that
>she seems to have groomed herself for a much more lucritive job-
>situation.  Anyone else agree that Kennedy is the reincarnation
>of mythical goddess' of the past?...Long live Kennedy!

Good god man, have you completely lost it?  In my opinion, she is awful and
has no business being on MTV.   She kind of reminds me of SNL's "Pat," but
we know that Kennedy is a female.  I shudder every time I hear that whiny 
voice.  Just my two cents.
Later!
Amy

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From: tower@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jim Van Houten)
Subject: Telescopes
Keywords: Petor Astor / Telescopes
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 08:31:19 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.074057.28756@epas.toronto.edu> izumi@epas.utoronto.ca (Noriko Izumi) writes:
>
>	I also want to get some information about the Telescopes.
>Although no one on the Net picked up -Telescopes- as the best of '92
>(as far as I remember), I really like it (especially -you set my soul-!!!).
>I only have this album and one EP called 'flying'.
>Does anyone know how their other stuff sound like?
>How did they sound like before they moved to Creation?

Actually, I did pick the Telescopes in the best of '92, and their most recent
album is possibly the best album to listen to when one's mind is altered.  I 
would not recommend their earlier works, however.  I bought _Taste_ (for $24 on
import) and was greatly disappointed.  It lacks the polished, swirly sound 
of their most recent work.  I could only call it abrasive.  With that to go on,
I refused to shell out the big bucks to buy their pre-Creation releases.  If 
anyone knows how these are, please post.  One thing you would probably like is
the Celeste EP.  It is on Creation and is at the same caliber as the album.

	Jim


-- 
Jim Van Houten		  |"Jesus loves you, more than I do."
Stanford University	  |		-THE WONDER STUFF
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From: gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO)
Subject: Re: Soundgarden
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:47:35 GMT

In article <C1FJ9s.Dvr@news.cso.uiuc.edu> gershbei@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Michael Gershbein) writes:
>From: gershbei@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Michael Gershbein)
>Subject: Soundgarden
>Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:49:04 GMT
>
>Hey.  Does anyone else think that Soundgarden sounds a little too much like
>(ugh) Whitesnake to be fully enjoyed?

HAHAHAHAHAHAH....

Uhm.. That's very funny.

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From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Subject: Re: Pavement'n'Sebadoh
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:16:28 GMT

In article <930021.113318.ahaavie@pcifm02> ahaavie@ulrik.uio.no (Anders Haavie) writes:
>
>Does anyone know where I can buy any Pavement or Sebadoh T-shirts.
>
>-Anders-

   Try your local indie record store.  The only Sebadoh shirt I've
  seen is a black "Freed Weed" one.

   As for the Pavement shirt, make it youself.  Believe me, the ones
  they were selling on the Sonic Youth were less than exciting.
  (Karma Karamel Karamello? Yeah right.)

  Here are the steps:

   Get any T-shirt with some design on it.
   Get some paint and simply trash the shirt with streams of consciousness.
   And, oh yeah.  Write "PAVEMENT" on it in big letters.

   Voila, a custom-made Pavement shirt, in the Pavement art fashion
    so popular today!

   I did!

   And you won't believe the reactions.    :)

                                                               K!z!K
From: C.L.Gannon@newcastle.ac.uk (C.L. Gannon)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: U2 Zoo TV Special
Keywords: U2
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:13:13 GMT
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU.


In article <1993Jan20.203945.3784@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, mauldin@lonestar.utsa.edu (Alex L. Mauldin) writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.004110.18331@microsoft.com> msalata@microsoft.com (Michael Salata) writes:
>>On Nov. 29 Fox broadcasted a 1 hr. version of this.
>>On Dec. 16, MTV scheduled 1 1/2 hours for this show.
>>Since I missed the MTV one, I would like to know if Fox
>>broadcasted an edited version, or if MTV just showed more
>>commercials?
>>
>>Thanks for your reply -- Michael
>
>
>    I have the MTV special on tape, and I'd suspect that it's pretty
>    much the same thing except the MTV version has gobs of commercials,
>    especially by Philips DCC which sponsored it.  Plus there's lots
>    of bad 'skit' stuff thrown in between the songs which I wish someone
>    had seen fit to edit out.
>
>    // Alex


       if by "skit stuff" you are referring to their own ads for
       Zoo products, then i am glad you didn't edit it as the
       adverts were fucking hilarious. they may have been included
       as a comment on our society (ie we are told that we want stuff
       that is ion fact worthless ( eg Suede)), but more likely than
       not they were like the rest of the show ... just a joke.


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From: atay@warp.UWaterloo.ca (Tay-man)
Subject: Re: Puppet's Way of Life or Blue in Heaven???
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 00:23:54 GMT

Ed Miner writes
> Does anyone know if Blue in Heaven's 'I Just Wanna Be With You' or 
> the Puppet's 'Way of Life' are available on any cd or compilation
> cd????

Way of Life is on the "Hardest Hits vol. 1" compilation CD, released around 2  
years ago by (I think) SBK records (new Toronto area company in business of  
making alternative/techno-pop compilations).  Email me for their address,  
catalog #, etc.

-- Andy Tay (atay@zeus.UWatererloo.ca)
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From: exby@spot.Colorado.EDU (Doc Exby)
Subject: Re: the FLUID
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:47:26 GMT

gpz750@bnr.ca (Dave Dal Farra) writes:

>In article <1993Jan15.235954.15491@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> REVITTE DANIEL MURPHY,
>revitte@ucsu.Colorado.EDU writes:

>There IS intelligent life out there!!  THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!!
>THANK  YOU!!  The fact Fluid isn't on a major is just testemant
>to the fact that they don't suck corporate dick like %99.999 of
>the pathetic major label bands out there must. 

read the other Fluid articles on this newsgroup dude.
jesus, stoltz and I have reported for months that they
have signed to Hollywood records with a new lp due
out in march.  i've heard it and it rocks hard!

::j

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From: rgonzale@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Rico A Gonzalez)
Subject: Re: Social Distortion - Mommy's Little Monster
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:59:38 GMT

In article <C1HnrA.76@acsu.buffalo.edu> v165nqxp@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Joe Mik
olic) writes:
>Is Social Distortion's first album (Mommy's Little Monster) worth getting?
>I've never seen it in any stores, so I imagine it will have to be special
>ordered.  Before I go through that, I'm interested in what SD fans think of
>the album.
>
>Joe Mikolic

IMHO SD's first (I assume) has got some great tunes on it.  Fans who picked up
on theze guys later might think it's a  little rough but I think it's much
closer to their thrash roots than the country twang tunes they play now (which 
is still pretty good stuff).
From: mcnally@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Mike McNally)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Mekons
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:39:23 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI

In article <16B4FF3DB.GILBERT@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU> GILBERT@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU (GILBERT, S A) writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.234604.13672@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
>coghill@pet.mni.mcgill.ca writes:
> 
>>
>>Does anyone out there know anything about upcoming Mekons tours?
>>Their new release "Wicked Midnight" is really great and has me
>>hungering for more.
>>
>>                                          Bob
> 
>AH! Mekons! The only band that matters. I've been hungrily awaiting
>this new release. Is it an album or a single? What's the label? They
>probably won't tour too soon, because its been less than a year since
>their last.

  I'm actually pretty disappointed with the stuff on the "Wicked Midnight" 
single, especially following on the heels of "Curse of the Mekons".  I
believe it's been released on the "Loud Music" label, seemingly distributed
by WEA (rather than A&M.)  According to the CD insert, the new tracks are
from the forthcoming album "I (Heart) Mekons"

  Tour prospects seem slim since they were just by here about 1 1/2 months
ago (actually, the closest they got was Chicago) but it's possible that
they might put together a bigger tour once the album comes out (it's also
possible that they're still playing the tail end of the tour and that
they might not have reached your area yet..)
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From: jlitchfi@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Jon Litchfield)
Subject: Re: Pigface (was Re: BIG BLACK)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:09:16 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.013248.159@leland.Stanford.EDU> blckjck@leland.Stanford.EDU (Brett Alexander Cruden) writes:
>In article <j0m3rla@rpi.edu> tuffyd@rpi.edu writes:
>>In article <24JAN93.21080121@vax.clarku.edu>, plowenstein@vax.clarku.edu writes:
>>|> the group is made up of(old lineup) ogre, trent reznor, cchris connely (i think
>>|> ) , and other names that i cannot think of right now. i do not believe trent
>>|> is still with the band.
>>That's true.  Also in it now are En Esch (KMFDM), William Tucker (Thrill Kill Kult), Hope Nichols, Lesley Rankine, Matt Schultz (Lab Report), William Reiflin (No longer in it), Marty Atkins (PIL, Killing Joke, Murder Inc., Founder of Pigface), and a few others...
>
>It seems to me that Pigface is a constantly evolving band.  Members seem to 
>change between albums and tours.  Only a handfull seem to stick with it 
>consistently.

That's because Pigface isn't really a band, but just whoever happens to not have other commitments. Like Connelly and Rielflin touring with Ministry. Like 
Rieflin recording with Ministry the same time they were recording "Fook". Like
Trent being too Trent. Pigface is more like a music-making party than a band.
From: joseca@nx02.mik.uky.edu (jose l carvallo)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: big black????
Date: 22 Jan 93 00:40:12 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences


Sorry to sound anal retentive, but Big Black happens to be my favorite  
band and I really wouldn't consider calling them neo-industrial because  
that is the music industry's way of calling any "alternative" group that  
has crashing sounds in their music. To me "industrial" is bullshit, it is  
just a phrase that looks(and sells) good. You see, when Ministry was  
singing bad New Wave songs back in 1984 or so, Big Black was already  
setting people on fire with their very unique and real to life sound.
At least I'm glad that somebody appreciates their sound. If you want to  
start listening to them pick up their "Atomizer" lp on reissue from Touch  
And Go records. Yeah, I'm telling you to buy vinyl when everybody else is  
buying CDs, but then again the music industry loves CD sales because they  
are so cheap to make and so easy to make profit out of by selling "high  
technology".
Anyways, if you are interested tofind more about BB write to me.
Bye, 

jose
From: rutter@mgmt.wharton.upenn.edu (John E. Rutter)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Curious about RIVERSIDE
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:00:34 GMT
Organization: The Wharton School

Does anyone know anything about the band RIVERSIDE?  Where do they hail 
from?  Do they have only one album (appropriately entitled "One")?  Help me 
out, if you can.

JR
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From: d91frera@odalix.ida.liu.se (fredriK ramsberG (?WildcarD?))
Subject: PINK FLOYD LYRICS
Organization: CIS Dept, Univ of Linkoping, Sweden
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 12:32:03 GMT

I have previously seen a file containing ALL the lyrics of Pink Floyd.
If you know who typed it in, it would be highly appreciated if you would
mail it to me. Thanks!

                   / Fredrik

  -------------------------------------------------------
 ! Fredrik Ramsberg, student at LiTH, Linkoping, Sweden. !
 !-------------------------------------------------------!
 !  Don't worry about the world coming to an end today.  !
 !     It's already tomorrow in Australia.               !
  -------------------------------------------------------

Organization: Junior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:19:25 -0500 
From: "Noah J. Adams" <na0r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Therapy?

	So what does everyone think of the new Therapy? album.  On a first
listen I don't think it's quite as good as their old stuff, but I wasn't
taken to the old stuff the first time I listened to it either.  Anyone
know of any tour plans?
   -Noah Adams
Think for yourself, Schmuck!
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