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From: scotty@gagetalker.com (Scott Turner)
Subject: Re: High Sierra Volume Format
Organization: L5 Computing
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 07:10:04 GMT

In article <1992Apr1.202057.18410@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>  writes:
|> I don't know where you can obtain the High Sierra docs,
|> but the ISO-9660 format is available from ANSI for $50.  
|> I just bought a copy, it's about 31 pages and fairly simple 
|> to implement.  They probably have the High Sierra format 
|> available if you are willing to part with the $, but as I 
|> understand it High Sierra is obsolete anyway and ISO-9660 
|> is the replacement.  Anyway, if you need their phone number 
|> or anything I can dig it out...
I doubt ANSI has any High Sierra specs lying around, after all,
ISO 9660 came out of ANSI-ing HS.

If you can find a copy, and that may be a big if, there is a book...
Published by TAB BOOKS INC and Copyright 1988 called "CD-ROMS:
Breakthrough in Information Storage" by Frederick Holtz
ISBN 0-8306-9326-2 (worthless for finding it but a handy checksum
once you find a candidate match.) This book cost me 15 $US-1988 (about
20 $US-1992 I think) It contains the info for reading ISO-9660 discs,
basically the ANSI spec re-printed.

Scotty
From: system@micromed.net.netcom.com (Duane Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: CDROM and DOS 5
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:10:58 GMT
Organization: Micro-Medic +1 408 280 1610

jwidner@onetouch.COM (Jim Widner) writes:
> system@micromed.net.netcom.com (Duane Davis) writes:
> >This tells DOS to fool MSCDEX into thinking it's running under DOS 4.0.
> >There is a newer version of MSCDEX that takes care of the problem but
> >this works just as well.
> 
> Are you sure this will work for that version of MSCDEX, Duane?  We use
> CDROM in our business and part of my job is to support it.  I tried that
> version and found I had to upgrade to a higher version - can't remember
> what it is right now, believe it is 2.01 or some such.  I tried 
> repeatedly to get it to work using the very same method you mention, 
> but failed.  I am almost certain that it won't work.

Maybe not... I don't have my old version anymore so I can't check it out.
All I know is that it worked fine for me and several friends. I have a
version now that has been updated for DOS 5.0. If anyone wants it I can
mail it to them.

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From: jcmorris@mwunix.mitre.org (Joe Morris)
Subject: Re: determining if MSCDEX is installed
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 20:12:33 GMT

rcharbon@athena.mit.edu (Ray Charbonneau) writes:

>Can someone send me details on how to tell if MSCDEX is installed.  We need to
>be able to write a program that returns one value on exit if MSCDEX is
>installed, and another if it isn't.

[This may be a duplicate posting; our newsfeed has been running in 
yoyo mode today after being down for several days; my first attempt
to post this response was trapped by a failure...]

>From Ralf Brown's interrupt list it appears (and I haven't tested) that
you can get what you need from either INT 2F/AX=1500 or AX=150D.

    mov  ax,1500h
    mov  bx,0
    int  02fh

BX on return will be the number of drive letters supported; zero should 
imply that MSCDEX isn't there.  The interrupt list notes that this test
conflicts with DOS 4.00 GRAPHICS.COM, and that this is a nonstandard
are-you-there test.

    mov  ax,0150Bh
    mov  bx,0   
    mov  cx,2    ; drive indicator, 0=A:
    int  02Fh

On return check BX; iff MSCDEX is present it will be 0ADADh.  If MSCDEX is
there, AX will be nonzero iff the drive indicated by CX is a CD-ROM.

Joe Morris
From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Microsoft Programmer's CD-ROM
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:21:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.jf1jk-f.feustel
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting

Be advised that although MS advertises that you get three free updates
to the Programmers CDROM, you will have to call MS every so often to
find out whether the product has been updated, and if it has, you will
then have to request that they send you a copy.

Also be advised that the CDROM version of the Dos Enclyclopedia does
not contain all the information in the original volume.

Also be advised that the OS/2 material on the original CDROM has been
removed from the most recent release of the CDROM.

-- 
David Feustel N9MYI, 1930 Curdes Ave, Fort Wayne, IN 46805. (219)482-9631
George Bush believes in the "carrot and stick" approach to social problems:
       - give carrots to the rich and stick it to the poor -
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: ice@socrates.umd.edu (Fredrik Nyman)
Subject: "Languages of the world" CD wanted
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 21:31:46 GMT

If anyone out there bought a Sony or DAK BSR CD-ROM drive which
came with "Languages of the world" bundled, drop me a note if
you'd be willing to sell it.

Thanks,

Fredrik
From: chin@walnut.chem.upenn.edu (Chin Wu)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: CD-ROM jungle
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:35:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: walnut.CHIN.92Apr17123555
Distribution: alt
Organization: University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, PA

Hi,
    When I bought my CD-ROM drive, I knew the existence of different
formats. For example, there are Hige Sierra and ISO9600. But it turns
out that different vendors of CD-ROM have their formats called
encording methods. When I buy some CD-ROM, I can't guarantee it can be
read by any program. To quote a piece of information from a particular
CD-ROM, I had to use their program to read the information, store the
information in ASCII format (of course if they provide that
functonality) and import that into the program I want to use.
    How do people think about this CD-ROM format jungle? Is it
ridiculous or is it just a little inconvenient that people can live
with? Or maybe the vendors have every reason to do this to protect the
data it might contain? I thought ASCII is prevailing everywhere
already. But I was wrong in this cornor.

--
chin@walnut.chem.upenn.edu
From: rab@sprite.berkeley.edu (Robert A. Bruce)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: simtel and cica archive CD-ROMs
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:31:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.si3r0INNrf6
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: murder.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Apr14.180012.657@cis.umassd.edu> darkwing@cis.umassd.edu (Curtis H. Wilbar Jr.) writes:
>Recnently I read in some postings somewhere that there were CD-ROM versions
>of the cica.cica.indiana.edu windows3 archvie available on CD-ROM as
>well as the wsmr-simtel20.army.mil MSDOS archives on another CD-ROM...
>
>Does anybody know where I could get these CD-ROMs and what the cost is ?

Yes, I am the person that put this stuff on CD-ROM.  Here is a list of the
four discs that are currently available:

CICA MicroSoft Windows CD-ROM.  This disc contains 80 Megabytes of MicroSoft
Windows programs.  It includes hundreds of utilities, games, fonts, bitmaps,
etc.  All are written especially for Windows.  It includes the entire CICA
Windows collection from Indiana University.  This disc was made in March
1992.  The price is $24.95.

Simtel20 MSDOS CD-ROM.  This disc contains about 420 Megabytes of utilities,
programming tools, source code, technical documentation, etc.  It includes
the entire Simtel20 MSDOS Archive.  There is an index file in each directory,
and a master index file in the top directory, that describes each file.  This
disc was made in January 1992.  The price is $24.95.

X11R5 and GNU CD-ROM.  This disc contains all the X11R5 Window System sources,
including all the contributed software, all the GNU source code, the Usenet
comp.sources.x archives, and sparc binaries and libraries for the Gnu programs
and the X11R5 server and clients.  The X11R5 sources are at patch level nine.
This disc was made in February 1992, and is also distributed by the Sun User
Group.  The price is $39.95.

Source Code CD-ROM.  This disc contains the Usenet source archives, the
Simtel20 Unix-C Archive, and a large collection of MSDOS source code.  There
is a total of about 600 megabytes of source code.  It is mostly C, but also
has some pascal, lisp, c++, modula2, fortran, assembly, etc.  This disc was
made in March 1992.  The price is $39.95.

All of these discs are in ISO-9660 format, so they are readable on almost
any system.

Additional discs of the same title are half price.  Shipping and handling
is $5 (per order, not per disc) for US/Canada, and $10 for overseas.  If you
live in California, please add sales tax.  You can send a check or money
order to

    Bob Bruce
    1547 Palos Verdes, Suite 260
    Walnut Creek, CA  94596
    USA

Or you can order by MasterCard or Visa.  If you do not trust email
with your credit card number, you can call me at

	+1 800 786-9907
	+1 510 947-5996
	+1 510 947-1644 FAX

There will be other discs available soon.

    -bob
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: anton@analsyn.gts.org (Anton J Aylward)
Subject: CD-ROMs for UNX
Organization: ASCI: UNIX Database and Communications
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 01:52:12 GMT

I'm running SVR4.
There is adriver in the package for CR-ROM as a SCSI device.

Has anyone done anything with this?
Can you recommend HOWTO, Hardware, software or media?

I'd be particularly interested in colections of COMP.SOURCES and 
such like.

--
Anton J Aylward
From: hgs@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Harry Salvini)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: PAS upgrading information  was-Re: Media Vision Multimedia Kit
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:56:49 GMT
Organization: Loral Western Development Labs

In article <1992Apr15.170622.16299@spectrum.xerox.com>, mohabir@piggy.Xerox.COM (Daniel A. Mohabir) writes:
> 
> In article <n2bHl6br6@cs.psu.edu> bill@math.psu.edu (Bill Conn) writes:
> >In article <"14-Apr-92.17:31:06".*.Daniel_A._Mohabir.Henr801C@Xerox.com> Daniel_A._Mohabir.Henr801C@XEROX.COM writes:
> >>   Does anyone have any information on the new Media Vision Multimedia Kits ...
> >>
> >>   Thanks for any an all information.
> >>   Dan
> >
> >The question I have is whether the packages have the old or new
> >versions and whether you can upgrade if you get the old one.  Can
> >anyone else comment on this?
> >
> >   -Bill
> 
> The audio card for the new kits is the new audio card. They do use the
> OPL-3 chip and are Sound Blaster, AdLib, Thunder Board, Pro AudioSpectrum
> compatible. This is from the spec sheets.
> 
> Dan

I have an original PAS board, and am also interested in upgrading.  I called
the MediaVision 800 number --> 1 (800) 845-5870, and got a recording that
stated that after the 15th of April, if you call 1 (800) 283-1596 extension 100,
you will get some information regarding the upgrade to the new "16 upgrade program".

+----------------------------------------------------------------------+
| O O  hgs@wdl1.wdl.loral.com -- Kathy's Hubby & Jonathan's Daddy  O O |
|  v    BTW: LORAL doesn't have anything to do with my opinions.    v  |
| \_/              I came up with them all on my own.              \_/ |
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From: system@micromed.net.netcom.com (Duane Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Sun Moon Star
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:19:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: micromed.qJ1BJB1w165w
Organization: Micro-Medic +1 408 280 1610

ywlee@sunc6.cs.uiuc.edu (Youngwhan Lee) writes:

> 
> Do any of you know a company named "Sun Moon Star"?
> My friend wants to know their address/phone number.
> He believes it is a CD-ROM drive manufacturing company.

It is. 

Sun Moon Star Group - PC Division
1941 Ringwood Ave
San Jose, CA
(408) 452-7811


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From: jem@XPAT.POSTECH.AC.KR (John Milburn)
Subject: Re: Returned mail for zslim@vision.postech.ac.kr
Reply-To: John Milburn <jem@XPAT.POSTECH.AC.KR>
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 23:32:40 GMT

Due to a local problem, four mail messages for zslim@vision.postech.ac.kr
from your cd-rom mailing list were bounced by us. If possible,
could you please re-send the following messages to zslim.

Note: I tried to send this message to cdrom-l-request,
but apparently there is no such address.

thank you.


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Date:         Fri, 3 Apr 1992 15:49:37 GMT
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Comments:     Warning -- original Sender: tag was ngw@NGW.FUNET.FI
From: Ray Charbonneau <rcharbon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU>
Subject:      determining if MSCDEX is installed
Comments: To: cdrom-l@uccvma.ucop.edu
To: Multiple recipients of list CDROM-L <CDROM-L@uccvma.ucop.edu>

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From: cs225 Student <cs225bm@UX1.CSO.UIUC.EDU>
Subject:      Mailing List
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To: Multiple recipients of list CDROM-L <CDROM-L@uccvma.ucop.edu>

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Comments:     Warning -- original Sender: tag was ngw@NGW.FUNET.FI
From: Ray Charbonneau <rcharbon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU>
Subject:      determining if MSCDEX is installed
Comments: To: cdrom-l@uccvma.ucop.edu
To: Multiple recipients of list CDROM-L <CDROM-L@uccvma.ucop.edu>

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To: Multiple recipients of list CDROM-L <CDROM-L@uccvma.ucop.edu>
From: sterbbs@eursus (B. Rozenberg)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Multi-CD CD-ROMs ? Options/Opinions Wanted!
Keywords: CD-ROM
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:35:07 GMT
Organization: Erasmus Universiteit Rotterdam
Originator: news@mailgate.eur.nl

sgolby@nepean.uws.edu.au (Scott Golby) writes:


>    Hi Everyone,  I was looking to add a CD-ROM player to my BBS and 
>to add a bit of flexability I would like to add a Multi Disk capable
>CD ROM (if at all possible!)   So what are my options?  Do I have 
>any at this stage?  (As I have only seen 1 Multi CD-ROM about the
>place)    Any thought, experiences or opinions most welcome.

If you have a multi-user BBS, multidisc players have one problem: it will
take about 7 seconds to change a disc. This way it's not possible to have
more than one user accessing the CD-ROM drive.

If you're a programmer, you can write your own software to acces the disc.
We are using the Pioneer CD-ROM discchanger on our 8 lines BBS. We've
written our own (MajorBBS) module for it. All the indexes of the discs are
stored on harddrive. Users can acces it, browse through it and tag files
from it. The moment they selekt [D]ownload, the drive is locked for the other
users (but they can still search through the indexes) and the files are
copied to a swap-area on the harddrive where the user can download them from.
 
This means the drive is accessed as little as possible. We are running this
module for about a month now and nobody noticed we are NOT having 6 drives.
 
However, because normally the Pioneer locks the AT-BUS when it switches discs
writing the module did require some tricky SCSI-programming (thanks to Ed Hu
of Future Domain for all his help).
 
Bert Rozenberg.

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From: kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Movie/Cinema CD-ROM?
Date: 6 Apr 92 12:43:14 GMT
Followup-To: alt.cd-rom
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

In article <15786@bunny.GTE.COM>, gc03@gte.com (George Cross) writes:
> Hi,
> 
> Any leads on a source for a Movie/Cinema encyclopedia on CD-ROM?  Titles,
> actors, writers, reviews, dates, format & release particulars, distributors.
> Thanks,
> 
>   --George
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
>  George R. Cross                                   cross@gte.com
>  GTE Laboratories Incorporated
>  Mail Stop 38                                    (617)-466-2837
>  40 Sylvan Road  
>  Waltham MA 02254
There isn't a cd that I know of but a company (I don't know the name
offhand) makes a program for the pc called "Blue Banner" or something
It's a movie guide.  I've seen it and it's quite impressive (for a disk
based system)  They may put one out on cd but you'd probably have to
talk to the company that makes it.
 - Kirk
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: af774@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Chad Cipiti)
Subject: Re: MPC Games
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 19:39:01 GMT


I have King's Quest V running on the CD-ROM that comes
 with Sony's Laser Library.  I cannont compare it to the disk
 version of KQ-
V, but I can compare it to other similar games.  The only thing that
 takes time is for the vocals, and even that is fast, you just can't
 hear the whole message as fast as you could read it.  You can
 also click a mouse button to end it, though.  It takes time between
 screens in 256 color mode, but no more that other games running
 with that many colors.

The only thing I don't like about KQ-V is that you can't interact
 with the other characters as well, i.e. ask them your own questions.
 Anything you might need to know is just told to you when you go
 up to them and click the talk icon.  KQ-V is neat, but it isn't
 quite interactive.  Things are very set.

Chad Cipiti
(af774@cleveland.freenet.edu)
From: aa699@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Thomas)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: DAK Deals-Be Prepared to Wait!
Date: 17 Apr 92 02:18:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr17.021827.8094
Reply-To: aa699@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Thomas)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


I ordered one of the CD ROM players with bonus package from DAK.

After waiting a week and a half for delivery, I called them today.
It turns out that it will take another 10 days to 4 weeks to receive
waht I ordered.  Due to the demand, they are in a serious back-order
situation.  Thus, if you want to take advantage of one of their deals,
put your order in and be prepared to wait a while...

-- 
aa699@Cleveland.Freenet.EDU/GEnie=A.THOMAS16/Compuserve:71541,3456
TONY THOMAS - SigOp - The Atari Portfolio SIG - Audio Arts SIG
"True riches is not what you have.  It is what you ARE." - Tony Thomas
From: lando@BRACHOT.JCT.AC.IL (Zvi Lando)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: CDROM and DOS 5
Date: 10 Apr 92 21:29:42 GMT
Reply-To: Zvi Lando <lando@BRACHOT.JCT.AC.IL>
Distribution: alt
Organization: FUNET-NGW

Can anyone tell me with what driver/program I can run my CDROM under DOS 5?
My MSCDEX (ver 1.01) doesn't seem to work...
                                                   -= Thanks =-
From: Daniel_A._Mohabir.Henr801C@XEROX.COM
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Media Vision Multimedia Kit
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:31:20 GMT
Reply-To: Daniel_A._Mohabir.Henr801C@xerox.com

Does anyone have any information on the new Media Vision Multimedia Kits. The
information I was able to gather is as follows:
Kit #1.
	Pro Audio Spectrum Plus sound card
		16 bit card with 8 bit audio sampling at 44.1 KHz
	Sony CDU 535 CDROM drive
	Compton`s Multimedia Encyclopedia for windows
	Windows 3.1
	Macromind
	King`s Quest 5
	Nautilus
	$995.00 list
Kit #2.
	Pro Audio Spectrum Plus 16 sound card
		Same card as above with 16 bit audio samples (like audio CDs)
	NEC CDR-83M CDROM drive
	Same software as above plus
	Lotus 123 for multimedia
	$1199.00 list

Does anyone have any additional information. I would like to purchase one of
these kits, but I don`t know which.

Also, a question about the NEC CDR-83M CDROM drive. Can Kodak Photo CDs be read
from this drive (with the appropriate software, of course)? The Specs says that
it it CD-ROM XA ready. What does this mean?

Thanks for any an all information.
Dan
	mohabir.henr801c@xerox.com
	Phone		(716)422-4856

	800 Phillips Road
	MS 129-72B
	Webster, NY 14580
From: rab@sprite.berkeley.edu (Robert A. Bruce)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: OS/2 - Windows Cd-rom!
Date: 17 Apr 92 00:47:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.sl77kINNa41
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: murder.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Apr16.183833.1@tesla.njit.edu> kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu writes:
> How about a windows 3.0,3.1 and OS/2 2.0 cd-rom
> (if infact, os/2 can be on the same cd as dos stuff)
> This would be well worth it since os/2 can run windows stuff (or
> atleast most of it)
>
> (Any takers for this one??)

I already made a MS Windows disc, containing the cica.cica.indiana.edu
archive.  I was planning to make an OS/2 disc containing the novell.com
and hobbes.nmsu.edu archives, but several of the software authors asked
me to wait a month to give them a chance to upgrade their programs to the
new OS/2 release.  I am planning to make the disc next month, and it
should be available around June first.  It will be available for free
to all contributing authors, and will cost $25 for everyone else.

	-bob
From: Skip.Persinger@f40.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Skip Persinger)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Cd rom's deteriorate?
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 92 22:40:00 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/40 - K-Line, New Albany OH

SK>From: sik@cci632.cci.com (Shawn Kammerdiener)
SK>Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
SK>Organization: CCI
SK>        I recently read in my Omni magazine about the problems with
SK>storing
SK>various media, i.e. artwork, books, etc. The last part of the article
SK>dealt with data storage, and how they are working on permanent types

I have read a little bit on the subject of short lived CD media. I can't
really tell you more info then you have already heard to this point. But, I
can tell you that the media should be longer lasting then the magnetic form. I
understand that the squeezing process might have adverse effects as time goes
on. But, it's got to be better then watch- ing the iron oxide flake off of
disks and tapes... (Digging through then garage) Those old LP records may not
have been such a bad idea after all!! Skip....DCBBS
===
 * OLX 2.1 * I've Got my Coffee, what else do I need....


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