HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jim@jimmc.chi.il.us (Jim McNicholas)
Newsgroups: alt.industrial,alt.sex,alt.sex.stories,rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: LAST POST
Date: 6 Nov 92 05:43:33 GMT
Organization: Prime Time Productions Aurora, Illinois

In <yPkoTB3w165w@tsoft.sf-bay.org> bbs.texx@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Tejas Wood) writes:
>nninja@nyx.cs.du.edu (Net Ninja) writes:

>> In article <1992Oct28.043147.4733@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dhedd@nyx.cs.du.edu (D
>> >I REGRET TO INFORM YOU THIS BUT SATAN HAS DECREED THAT I SHOULD NO LONGER
>> >POST.  I WILL STILL CONTINUE TO RECEIVE HIS DIVINE TRANSMISSIONS SO THE
>> >FEW OF YOU STILL INTERESTED CAN E-MAIL ME REQUESTING COPIES.
>> >
>> >BY THE WAY FOR THOSE OF YOU WONDERING WHO I AM MY NAME IS ROGER ANDREW
>> >NILSSON AND I LIVE IN THE ORANGE COUNTY AREA OF LOS ANGELES.  I MAINTAIN
>> >MY E-MAIL ACCOUNT TO RECEIVE TRANSMISSIONS FROM SATAN.
>> >
>> >I AM SORRY BUT I MUST GO NOW - I MUST ONLY FOLLOW THE DIVINE DECREES OF 
>> >SATAN, MASTER OF ALL DARKNESS AS BLINDLY AS YOU FOLLOW YOUR GOD.
>> >
>> >I HOPE I HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE AND CAUSED YOU TO WAKE UP TO YOUR OWN
>> >LIES AND HIPOCRISIES.
>> >
>> >DETH HEDD
>> >NATAS ROOLZ!
>> >
>> 
>> 
>> Awwwwwwwww. Somebody lose posting priveliges?  I wonder why?????????
>> So who's going to continue the great Robo-copulation experment?
>> I sent him my vote - dammit!!!!!!!!!
>> I want my samples!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> 
>> Net Ninja
>> 

>I think that our satan worshipping friend must be one of Danemeyer's 
>kids! (hahahahaha!)

>--
>Tejas Wood (bbs.texx@tsoft.sf-bay.org)
	for those of us not priviledged to know who the #$%^ danemeyer is please explain!!

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Newsgroups: alt.industrial
From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Robert Stephen Rodgers)
Subject: Re: My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 00:48:35 GMT

In article <96615@netnews.upenn.edu> kupiec@hp800.lasalle.edu (Bob Kupiec) writes:
>Which was featured in the (fantastic!) movie _Cool_World_.  It is also
>available on the CW CD.


	The only thing good about Cool World was the preview that they 
	were showing before a movie.  The movie itself was so bad
	that only the $6 ticket kept me in my seat.

	The animation sucked the big one, and the story was so stupid
	as to make even people who like that sort of thing ("it's so
	stupid it's funny!") couldn't help but be disgusted.

	I certainly hope you were kidding.



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Newsgroups: alt.industrial,alt.sex,alt.cyberpunk,alt.prose.d
Subject: Re: Story: The Morbidity (Deth Hedd's Fourth and 
From: galletti@husc10.harvard.edu (Arturo Galletti)
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:16:29 EST
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <gey9isq00WB=EUH6x1@andrew.cmu.edu> Faisal Nameer Jawdat <fj05+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>can someone mail me his earlier stories, or those of them that you
>have?
>thanks
>
>ar4t



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From: xorcist@cyberden.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.industrial,alt.cyberpunk,alt.sex,rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 16:05:33 PST
Organization: Indescribable Creations

gallen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Geoff Allen) writes:

> In article <sDgPTB1w165w@cyberden.uucp> xorcist@cyberden.uucp writes:
> >
> >Huh?? TKK (Pre-Sexplosion) is probably one of the front runners of the
> >industrial scene... Unfortunately now, they're a joke. As far as a single?
>                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> How exaclty are they a "joke" now, if they weren't before (which they weren't
> You seem to confuse "being a joke" with "having a sense of humor".  It's
> more like if you don't have a sense of humor, then you _are_ kind of a joke.
> (I could name a band or two that falls under the latter classification, but
> I'm sure you wouldn't want me to..:)

Because 'Having a sense of humor' is not a complete left turn. Maybe
one song IE:Sexplosion along the disco/jock+bike+lookatmei'msogrungyandcool
vibe, but to switch from the original format of TKK's original releases
is like switching the beef in your hamburger to liver. Still a meat, but
yuk oh yuk oh yuk...

> Anyway, TKK have just refined their music from a grating-discoey
> commentary on most American society to a smooth-discoey approach.  70's

What?? REFINED? Refined what? I SEE GOOD SPIRIT... I SEE BAD SPIRITS...?
If Sexplosion was a refinition (possibly that is a new word) of ISGS...ISBS...
then I've missed something.

> disco is funny! 70's disco really lends meaning + humor into their songs

Yes, disco is funny.

> I still don't know if they're really "industrial" - but most people who
> are into industrial are into them, just for the quality of their songs.

It seems you may not of heard their earliest stuff... Shock of point 6, etc...

> People also into the TKK sound might also check out this "new" group,
> Sheep on Drugs.  From what I know they're from England, and not at all
> affiliated with TKK.  I think they have two singles out (which I _still_
> can't find): "T.v. USA" and "Motorbike".  THey're the techno answer to
> TKK's disco.
>
> Geoff Allen

+ Again, you have your opinions....


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Newsgroups: alt.industrial,alt.rap,alt.music.alternative
From: dskimish@nyx.cs.du.edu (David Skimishara)
Subject: Re: rap is dead
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 03:28:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.195650.16690@ultb.isc.rit.edu> mcw4765@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.C. Walker) writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.111445.26110@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dskimish@nyx.cs.du.edu (David Skimishara) writes:
>>
>>ok,I thought I'd try my hand at writing a story in memory of dhead and his
>>wonderfull posts.  ok, here goes.
>>
>>I never liked his music, that guy who lived below me in the dorm.  He
>>played his loud rap music night and day, day and night untill I could not
>>sleep.  His speakers were the finest tecnology that the western world
>>could produce in China but I still hated him.  His speakers were left
>>outside his room with the 4' woofers driving nails into my brain.  I felt
>>I could no longer take this torture so I went to my room and grabbed my
>>Physics book.  It was a weighty tome and it made a soft thud as I dropped
>>it on his head from the balcony above.  When he was unconcious, I went
>>down to retrieve the book and borrowing his baseball bat I proceded to
>>reduce his speakers to a pile of wood, plastic and assorted electronic
>>pieces.  Then when I was finished, I tool the leads from his stereo and
>>stuck them in his mouth.  He at first showed no reaction untill I went
>>into the room and cranked his stereo up to 10.  I could see the bass beats
>>flow through him as his body twitched on every beat.  My work done, I
>>picked up my book, walked up the stairs and opened myself a beer to
>>celebrate a job well done.
>
>Was is St. Ides or Eight-ball?
>Bang,Zoom
>I'm out like a pit-bull in heat.
>
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>| In a what?....So, Whatchu sayin'?...BASS,to make the walls shake...Enuff??...|
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>--------mcw4765@beaver.cs.rit.edu------------mcw4765@ultb.isc.rit.edu-----------
actually, it was Pabst, but that is immaterial to the telling of my story.
Dave
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Newsgroups: alt.industrial
From: gallen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Geoff Allen)
Subject: Re: NIN - Broken = MeTaL
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 18:14:47 GMT

In article <cluster.223@fs1.mcc.ac.uk> cluster@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (General Access) writes:
>It sounds too manky and metally to me...


So, Trent was trying something different.  So what's your point.
I mean, he probably spent all that time just to get away from doing
something like PHM.

Geoff Allen

Newsgroups: alt.industrial
From: torben@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Random Tox)
Subject: Re: Matthew, the dumb fuck
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:45:34 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.070931.17873@muddcs.claremont.edu> rlinnema@jarthur.claremont.edu (Russ **Crow T Robot** Linnemann) writes:
>
>For some unknown reason, this moron (Matthew Neill Sharp) thinks? 
>that everybody who logs in from jarthur.claremont.edu is the same
>person.  Is everybody who logs in from andrew at Carnegie Mellon
>the same person?  I don't think so.  Quit being so paranoid.  There's
>no conspiracy by the people of Claremont to take over USENET.  Chill
>out and quit the stupid "finger posts".
>--Russ--


	Admit it, conspiracy pig! You're just one of them! Or another
robot face of the insane Claremont Puppet Master! Muahaha! We're onto you now!


-- 
(C) 1992 by Random Tox and The Durex Blender Corporation
All Rights Available at the Door, No Reservations.

	"If this is the place for you, then herd."
Newsgroups: alt.industrial,alt.cyberpunk,alt.sex,rec.music.industrial
From: sgreever@nyx.cs.du.edu (Steven Greever)
Subject: Re: ROBO-COPULATION
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 15:44:08 GMT


Just one thing.
YOU GUYS ARE SICK!!!!!!!!!

Steven G.

ps. anybody got any SR71 pictures???
my office needs some phallicicicity!28~
-sgreeeever

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From: sharpmn@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew N. Sharp)
Subject: Re: ALT.INDUSTRIAL FAQ????
Followup-To: alt.flame,misc.test,rec.music.industrial,alt.cyberpunk,misc.misc
Keywords: The joke is old, mfoley@jarthur.claremont.edu, The Joke Is Old
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:50:51 GMT

gallen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Geoff Allen) writes:
pbancrof@nyx.cs.du.edu (Phil Bancroft) writes:
dnakamur@nyx.cs.du.edu (Damo Nakamura) writes:
gdyer@nyx.cs.du.edu (George Dyer) writes:
[whatever deleted]

Script started on Tue Nov 10 22:37:32 1992
% finger dnakamur@nyx.cs.du.edu gallen@nyx.cs.du.edu pbancrof@nyx.cs.du.edu gdyer@nyx.cs.du.edu
[nyx.cs.du.edu]
Login name: dnakamur  			In real life: Damo Nakamura
Directory: /u/d/n/dnakamur          	Shell: /nyx/bin/menulogin
Last login Mon Nov  9 08:04 on ttypf from JARTHUR.CLAREMON
Mail last read Sun Oct 11 17:57:17 1992
No Plan.
[nyx.cs.du.edu]
Login name: gallen    			In real life: Geoff Allen
Directory: /u/g/a/gallen            	Shell: /nyx/bin/menulogin
Last login Tue Nov 10 19:50 on ttyse from JARTHUR.CLAREMON
Mail last read Tue Nov 10 19:53:08 1992
No Plan.
[nyx.cs.du.edu]
Login name: pbancrof  			In real life: Phil Bancroft
Directory: /u/p/b/pbancrof          	Shell: /nyx/bin/menulogin
Last login Tue Nov 10 17:19 on ttyp4 from JARTHUR.CLAREMON
Mail last read Tue Nov 10 17:20:40 1992
No Plan.
[nyx.cs.du.edu]
Login name: gdyer     			In real life: George Dyer
Directory: /u/g/d/gdyer             	Shell: /nyx/bin/menulogin
Last login Thu Nov  5 12:24 on ttypa from EAST.CLAREMONT.E
No unread mail
No Plan.
% 
% 


The attempt to create a conversation between fictional characters
is failing miserably.

"Phil", for instance, has wavered in his "general philosophy"
twice so far.


	J A R T H U R . C L A R E M O N T . E D U

		Home of one MFOLEY (aka: SPANKY)

		Creator of numerous characters on
		Denver University's Public Access
		machine, NYX.CS.DU.EDU.

	And now, the actual IDENTITY of MFOLEY....


	Yeah, right.




	Figure it out yourselves.





Matthew Neill Sharp                a n d    i t    i s n ' t     m e
matthew@symphony.cc.purdue.edu mnsharp@nyx.cs.du.edu sharpmn@sage.cc.purdue.edu
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From: kupiec@hp800.lasalle.edu (Bob Kupiec)
Newsgroups: alt.industrial,alt.cyberpunk,alt.sex,rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult
Date: 7 Nov 92 23:28:45 GMT
Followup-To: alt.industrial
Organization: LaSalle University, Philadelphia, PA

In <1992Nov5.091722.17127@husc3.harvard.edu>, djperry@husc11.harvard.edu writes:
>In article <3024@bsu-cs.bsu.edu> mjcrouch@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Matt J. Crouch) writes:
>>What is the name of the newest Thrill Kill Kult release?  I believe it
>
>That last thing they released that I know of was a single for Sex On Wheelz.  I

Which was featured in the (fantastic!) movie _Cool_World_.  It is also
available on the CW CD.

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Newsgroups: alt.industrial,alt.cyberpunk,rec.music.industrial,alt.postmodern
From: sharpmn@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew N. Sharp)
Subject: Re: Sex + Cars + Critics on Acid == Art!
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 04:05:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.032713.7296@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> gallen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Geoff Allen) writes:
>
>I lost the previous posts - but who was it who was arguing that our
>technofetishism (and carrying it to extremes) was part of some
>fascist artistic movement (the Futurists) and therefore it was inherently
>fascist?
   
It was you, M"Geoff Allen"FOLEY.

>Anyway, I really beg to disagree on both counts... Like the people
>who drool over race cars etc. today, the Futurists were NOT a typically
>fascist movement.  I remember reading somewhere (a long time ago really)
>that it was Mussolini that liked them, and not the other way around...
>In my understanding of Fascism if you were an artist the government liked
>- you'd better devote all your time to producing for that government as
>sort of a propagandist.  I would think that some Futurists joined the Fascists
>just for survival - kind of an extreme but very forced "selling out"...
>

Substitute the word "success" for "survival."

Success is the only reason _anyone_ embraces fascism.
Success is the _basis_ for fascism.  To succeed over others
in will, in act, and in freedom.


>My point is, why make the generalization that all Futurists were fascist,
>or especially the statement that Futurism is inherently fascist?  Just
>because some were forced into submission and cooperation with Mussolini
>doesn't have anything to do with whether today's Futurists have anything
>to _do_ with fascism.  One must take circumstances into account, is what
>I'm really trying to say.  Artists are people too, and when 99.9%of the
>people are forced into compliance with a fascist government, you'd better
>bet that most of the artists will be too, especially those taking such an
>apolitical stance.


I resent the implication of your (plural) posts that fascism is
a negative system to be connected to.  You have offered _no_ 
evidence of this, factually, and I doubt that you can _using_ _logic_
without making some fallible _moral_ judgement.


Why _should_ people be allowed to do and say what they please?
Speaking _logically_, without Oppressing Your Morals on Everyone Else,
please.
 

 After all, 
 That would be FASCISM...
 shudder to think.



>This kind of crypto-generalization is why I'm disgusted with 90% of the PC
>movement anyways..

This kind of semantic-creativity is why I'm blah blah blah blah blah
blah Acapulco Bay.

>
>Geoff Allen
 ^^^^^ ^^^^^
 At least you stayed in character this time...


       					   M a t t h e w  N . S h a r p
	 		 		  matthew@symphony.cc.purdue.edu
					  "Converting money into pounds"
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From: morpheus@entropy.mcds.com (morpheus)
Newsgroups: alt.industrial,alt.cyberpunk,alt.sex,alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: Religious Stuff
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 16:52:41 EST
Organization: the pickle factory at Langley, Virginia

sgreever@nyx.cs.du.edu (Steven Greever) writes:

> I cannot believe in the things you do but in
> retrospect I had no right to criticize them.  You believe what you
> believe, and I shall continue to believe what I do.  Until then,
> it's ok with me if we all stop bickering.
> 
> Wouldn't the world be a much better place if we all could be friends?

Hey wow, man...  I guess I'll have to go kill all those flames I was about to
send about your previous messages...

Have a nice day unless you've made other plans...  ;-)


--
morpheus@entropy.mcds.com
"Your empire is on fire."  - Front 242
Newsgroups: alt.industrial
From: mike@highlite.uucp (Mike Wiik)
Subject: Re: industrial culture
Organization: Gotham Communications Research
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 01:57:19 GMT

wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Patrick Chester) writes:

>In article <1992Nov1.012401.25955@highlite.uucp> mike@highlite.uucp (Mike Wiik) writes:
>=petesk@microsoft.com (Pete Skelly) writes:
>=
>=>In article <1992Oct29.064049.25411@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> pbancrof@nyx.cs.du.edu wrote:
>=>[religion]
>=>was a good source of morals to keep people from killing one another.
>=
>=Name that religion. XTNT killed untold millions.

>Funny, that was never in the teachings of Christ.

Aside from being a "reference", I'm not sure JC had *anything* to do
with Xtianty, even if he/she existed.

>Btw, I am Catholic and still somewhat faithful. My only anger with the Church
>is their treatment of Gallileo.

What about G. Bruno? Or several million "witches"? Not to mention entire
nations condemned to death for heresy by certain popes...... but don't
feel bad - in one way or another, we're all useful idiots...

	-Mike

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From: djperry@husc11.harvard.edu (Lord of deXness)
Newsgroups: alt.industrial,alt.cyberpunk,alt.sex,rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult
Date: 9 Nov 92 03:22:41 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Nov8.185538.3493@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> gallen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Geoff Allen) writes:
>
>People also into the TKK sound might also check out this "new" group,
>Sheep on Drugs.  From what I know they're from England, and not at all
>affiliated with TKK.  I think they have two singles out (which I _still_
>can't find): "T.v. USA" and "Motorbike".  THey're the techno answer to
>TKK's disco.
>
>Geoff Allen
>
>

YES!!!!!! Sheep On Drugs are definitely on!  I managed (by complete chance) to
stumble across the Motorbike single, and it really rocks.  I like their techno
approach much more than TKK's disco approach.  Check 'em out!!!

If you can't find the singles anywhere and you're into trancy, extremely
repetitive techno with some hardcore tracks thrown in for fun, the song 
Motorbike is on the import double CD comp Rave On! on !hype Records.

deX!
-- 
Hate is a fuzzy puppy.
From: cluster@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (General Access)
Newsgroups: alt.industrial
Subject: NIN - Broken = MeTaL
Date: 11 Nov 92 13:11:57 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

It sounds too manky and metally to me...
Newsgroups: alt.industrial,alt.cyberpunk,alt.postmodern,rec.music.industrial
From: gallen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Geoff Allen)
Subject: Re: ALT.INDUSTRIAL FAQ????
Keywords: Do not have sex with Matthew Neil Sharp.
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 03:00:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.203210.6689@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> pbancrof@nyx.cs.du.edu (Phil Bancroft) writes:
>In article <1992Oct29.200317.18808@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dnakamur@nyx.cs.du.edu (Damo Nakamura) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct29.061622.24378@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> gdyer@nyx.cs.du.edu (George Dyer) writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>I am a new reader of this group and would like to know what
>>>it is really like.  I have seen articles ranging from technology
>>>and the environment to something about 1 year olds and gas tanks.
>>>Please tell me which is the more normal type of post and what the purpose
>>>of the group is.
>>
>>
>>Well, almost anything "industrial" goes - it's kind of free-form anyway.
>>If you have a topic in any way relating to "industrial" culture, don't be 
>>afraid to post!
>>
>>BTW, somebody really needs to do a FAQ for this group....  A new FAQ that is.
>>DAMO
>>
>
>Very much agreed. WHat do you all think we should put in it?
>My recommendations: (these to please everybody not just me with my own
>	opinions)
>	
>	1) Industrial Records and the birth of "Industrial Culture"
>	2) Influences from Futurist, Dada, Postmodernist movements
>	   (artistic justification into the creation of an "alternative"
>	    industrial culture)
>	3) Industrial music since Industrial Records + other associated art
>	4) The Cyberpunk movement
>	5) The Rave movement
>	6) Infiltrations of "industrial culture" into everyday society; 
>	    popular culture
>	7) Resource lists:
>	   	Recommended music
>		Recommended reading
>		Recommended films
>		Recommended performance art shows
>		FTP sites for essays, etc. (thes will have to be set up)
>		(begrudgingly) - recommended club/rave locations....
>
>
>
>Does this sound like a good structure or do you have other ideas?????
>
>Please post,
>P H I L  B A N C R O F T
>
>"THINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!dammitTHINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
>%0

(reposted where other people might see this - Phil....)

I think we could pretty much go with the above structure except we really
need to expand on the resource lists.  Have any of you seen the Mondo 2000
"Users Guide to the New Edge" - Well this is what our FAQ really needs to
be like, except more industrial.

Note, "industrial culture" is not necessarily limited to industrial music, 
or cyberpunk, or postmodernism per se, so please no reposting of the FAQs
for each of these groups.


Geoff Allen


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