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From: carruth@mksol.dseg.ti.com (matthew carruth)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: speaking with ghosts...
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:30:44 GMT
Organization: internet

I had dream.  I was in my grandmother's basement in Ark. I was standing in the 
semi-darkness and suddenly a whirlwind starting moving papers.  As I watched
an image of my late grandfather appeared out of the whirling debris.  At first,
he seemed large, but quickly shrank down to 3 ft or so. I then had a 
telepathic reception from him.  He said that he still loved everyone here and 
that we shouldn't worry, because he was doing fine where he was.  I didn't
feel any fear  during this.  After I received the message the dream ended.

I've had a lot of strange dreams, but never one where I talked to a ghost.  Also,
my dreams usually have strange, scary things happening.  This one, however, was
more like a postcard from the dead than a dream I'd normally have.  

Any comments?
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From: v060r5wl@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Amy L McFarland)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Dream Deja Vu
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:46:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Byp2uz.2CG@cck.coventry.ac.uk>, esi102@cck.coventry.ac.uk (The Magician) writes...
>In article <c1mXuB9w165w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> tomh@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Tom Holroyd) writes:
>>If I paint a picture of some imaginary (but obviously earthly) place, like
>>a parking lot or a bridge, the chances are pretty good that somewhere out
>>there, there is some place that looks like that.  Especially if the place
>>is quite ordinary.
>> 
>  I've had Dream Deja Vu, and i have had it for some time now.... Its a 
>  certain feeling that you get when a cituation happens, a kind of mental 
>  click, that says you have been here before (ok you know this allready),
>  but the weird thing is that you realise that it was a dream that you 
>  experienced it in.
> 
>>
>>As for getting lost and using dream memories to get unlost; I suggest
>>that you may have manufactured plausible relationships for landmarks
>>in your dream that happened to coincide with actual landmarks.  Again,
>>this is more likely for ordinary scenes like bridges.
>>
>  Before i came to collage i had a few dreams where i was in my lodgings
>  and i specificaly remember the dreams to have taken place long before i 
>  was anywhere near the place, (coventry is 200 miles from swansea). 
> 
>  And what about remembering people ????
>  
>>Now if you dream something really bizarre and unusual and it happens,
>>that's different.
> 
>I had a bizzre experince this weekend... 
> 
>I was at a training seminar over the weekend, and when i went in for the 
>sunday morning's training, i suddenly had this Deja Vu experience...
>The point was that most of the people i met there i had never met before,
>Nor could i have because some of them came from other uni's/polys to 
>train us.
> 
>I kept on geting these feelings all day, which realy freaked me out
>because the only part of the dream i could remember was near the end, and 
>it involved fisticuffs.
> 
>Has anyone else experienced somthing similar, because this is'nt the first time
>that this has happened to me..
> 
>Tim.
>esi102@cck.cov.ac.uk
>Dreams fade, but nightmares last forever.
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: brownt@seq.uncwil.edu (brown todd francis)
Subject: WILD
Summary: Using dream-reentry
Keywords: lucid dream induction
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:13:12 GMT



I was able to re-enter a dream the other morning in full
consciousness.  Actually I did it twice and re-entered the
exact same dream scence fully lucid!  This is the first time
I was able to do this and I am very interested in repeating
this exercise.  All along it has been my intent to enter
the lucid state at will with a pre-arranged experiment in
mind - like the current cruise ship experiment for example.

Up until now all of my lucid dreams have been spontaneous and
I don't always remember what I wanted to do.  In fact, much of
my lucidity has been wasted on trying to decide what to do.

I mean, hey, when your's omnipotent it can be rather daunting,
right?  (Anybody see ST:TNG "Q-Me?")...

Anyway, by using the Tibetan technique of visualizing a 
concrete form, I was able to follow this form back into the 
dream.  It was incredible and I really feel like I can do 
this anytime I want to now.  Has anyone else been working with
this technique?

A good reference point is Dr Stephen LaBerge's "WILD" Technique
(Wake Initiated Lucid Dream) which has many aspects to it and is
described very well in his latest book, _Exploring the World of
Lucid Dreaming_.

Anybody else out there consciously entering the lucid dream state?


Michael J Shea
brownt@uncwil.edu

Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: kester@carson.u.washington.edu (Bill Dogbreath)
Subject: Dream re-entry (was Re:WILD)
Keywords: lucid dream induction
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 05:08:15 GMT

>I was able to re-enter a dream the other morning in full
>consciousness.  Actually I did it twice and re-entered the
>exact same dream scence fully lucid!  This is the first time
>I was able to do this and I am very interested in repeating
>this exercise.  All along it has been my intent to enter

Congratulations!  The first time I did this was a couple of years ago, when
I was heavily into reading this group.  Having the subject of lucid dreams
and LD techniques so constantly in my head was a great help in inducing the
experience.  I felt it was a tremendous breakthrough, but only one person
out of many I talked to about it seemed to understand the significance.  A 
pat on the back is well deserved.

>Anyway, by using the Tibetan technique of visualizing a 
>concrete form, I was able to follow this form back into the 
>dream.  It was incredible and I really feel like I can do 
>this anytime I want to now.  Has anyone else been working with
>this technique?

I used a couple of techniques I had read about on the net.  I am not familiar
with the Tibetan technique, but would love to hear more about it.  Perhaps
the method I used was similar.

Both were suggestions from the same person (I forget who) and involved how
NOT to wake up from a lucid dream.  The first trick was simply to keep moving
or doing something.  If you become lucid and then stop and look around you 
for a while going "Wow, I'm dreaming," your brain starts to dwell on that
fact and its implications, and too much mental activity will cause you to 
wake up.  So pay attention to what's happening around you rather than to the 
astonishing fact that it is happening at all.

The other trick involves changing the scenery of your dream.  If you try to
will an abrupt change in your surroundings, your brain again becomes too 
taxed and you kick yourself out of the dream.  It's better to allow the scene
to change naturally to the scene you want.  "Spinning" sounds to me like a 
version of this.

Anyway, I was waking up from a dream that I very much wanted to stay in, and
so without opening my eyes, still in the hypnagogic state, I started trying
to manipulate some dream object in order to direct my attention
back into the dream world.  I couldn't see anything at first, but gradually,
I allowed the images to form around me at their own rate.  Then, suddenly,
it was as though my whole field of vision shifted and I was back in the
dreamscape, fully lucid.  This became one of the longest and best controlled
lucid dreams that I can recall having.

For some reason I haven't been as intensely interested since then in lucid
dreaming, and so I haven't experienced it as much.  I have been able to 
consciously re-enter dreams once or twice since then, though, and I do feel 
that the technique could become second nature to anyone with enough interest.

Good luck, and let me know, via E-mail or post, if you have any more such
experiences.

Kester
From: s_titz@ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: comp.dreams
Date: 18 Dec 1992 18:27:14 GMT
Organization: Fachschaft math/inf, Uni Karlsruhe, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: irau33.ira.uka.de

In article <24425@galaxy.ucr.edu> dshire@ucrengr.ucr.edu (Darth 'Vader' Shire) writes:

[next time with Distribution: world please!]

>i myself had never had a tetris dream even though i was hooked :) but i did
>know a couple of people in my hall who did have tetris dreams, the funniest
>being the one in which the dreamer himself became a tetris block, spinning
>and falling...

That must be a good feeling... should we try that again?

(How does it feel when you've just completed a row? ;-)

>on this one for this post...). one day, i was working on a project for
>hours on end, sitting in front of a SUN running X. well, that night, i dreamt
>in windows with my "main dream" going on in one window while other things
>were going on in other windows. it was pretty funny but i couldn't really

This reminds me of a dream someone posted here some weeks ago that
took place in the news system. Upon completion of one strain of action
(or whatever), he had to go back to the menu of newsgroups. (I guess
he must have used VMS News :-)

>concentrate on my dream because of the other things that were happening in
>the other windows... (the dream in the window was in color in case anybody
>cares)

How big was the screen? :-)

And hopefully, next time you set up your twm to autoraise all windows
by default, maybe then it's easier to focus your attention to other
windows on demand.  :-)

But the examples you're giving here are harmless. I can well remember
dreams in Z80 assembler code. (Hex codes, actually, it was the time I
was writing an assembler and coding it manually. Ugh, those days are
over for good.) 

I then asked myself if I should bother more about what rubbish I was
dreaming or how I could get so far as to do that at all...

>since i'm on the topic of computer related dreams 8'), let me tell y'all about
>another amusing one i had. in the dream, i was lying on my back, looking at
>some stars. a "dream girl" shows up and then lays (is lay the right word to use?
>i never seem to get that right...) down next to me. "what beautiful stars!" she
>says to me to which i reply "nah, it's only a screen blanker" and then i reach
>out and push the space bar and the stars disappeared. :)
>
>sheesh. i should get out more often.

Me too, I think.

But when you're out at night, remember not to push the space bar - the
sudden brightness might hurt your eyes :-)

Happy holidays,

Olaf
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From: Peter_Mcnamee@kumear.apana.org.au (Peter Mcnamee)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Tonight's the night!...
Distribution: world
Date: 17 Dec 92 10:40:12 EST
Organization: The DUNGEON BBS

In a message dated Sat 12 Dec 92 13:02, Angelai@wam.umd.edu (angela I.)
wrote:

 AI> Hope to see you all on the S.S. Dreamers tonight!
 AI> (I can hardly wait to go to sleep...) :)

Pardon my ignorance...as I know it is REALLY showing at the moment...but
can someone explain this experiment to someone who has only just joined the
thread?  Thanks...


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Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: ebail@ctp.com (Erik Bailey)
Subject: Re: Tetris and Dreams
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:50:38 GMT

In article <102050@netnews.upenn.edu> wesley@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Wesley HRJ Gaus) writes:
>I was just wondering if anyone has ever played Tetris or any other video game
>and dreamed about it sometime later.  I recall playing Tetris a few times for
>an hour or so and lateer that day I put my head down and saw the pieces 
>falling and coudln't relax cause the pieces kept coming down. But for some
>reason all the pieces always seemed to fit! Any else experience anythin
>similar and, if so, is there a name for this occurrence??? Thanx.

God yes! Back four or so years ago when I was fanatically addicted to
Tetris, I would *constantly* dream about it! I swear, I couldn't do
*anything* without seeing spinning, falling blocks! :-)

This has also happened with other video games -- Larn/Hack/Rogue, and Beyond
Dark Castle to name a couple examples...

(ps - you might consider trimming your .sig a bit -- it's quite long)

--Erik

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Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: brownt@seq.uncwil.edu (brown todd francis)
Subject: DreamLight Users
Summary: Calling all DL Users
Keywords: lucid dream induction
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:03:42 GMT



Calling all DreamLight Users...

I have a little more time now and am beginning to work more
with the Lucidity Institute's "DreamLight" lucid dream induction
device.  I would like to connect with other owners/users of the
DreamLight and we can learn from each other's experiences.

I would also be glad to work with others who are interested in this
technology but aren't fortunate enough to have one.  Understanding the
basic idea, with a small investment (or preferably a friend who
can build an electronic circuit) you can build a "make-shift"
DreamLight like I did while I was waiting for mine to come.

All you need is one of the cheaper brain machines with light goggles
which can run on an AC adapter.  Then go to Sears and get one of
their electronic timers ( 8 event:  4on/4off) min time 0:01.

Since we know that REM is most prevalent during the last phase
of sleep, all you have to do is get up early and re-enter your
last REM cycle with the light goggles set to give you the light cue
30-60 minutes after sleep onset.  It really works.

Are there any other DreamLight users out there?

Michael Shea
brownt@uncwil.edu
From: jhunter5@metz.une.edu.au (JOHN HUNTER)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: psychic dream?
Date: 16 Dec 92 11:27:36 GMT


     Recently I learned that I was pregnant, and the first person (other than 
my husband) that I told was my mum. Mum told me next time she called that my brother had had a "spooky" dream and was reluctant to tell me the details. It ended up that he had dreamt of a very small coffin and my face was in the dream. He said to mum that he hoped I wasn't pregnant. I wasn't disturbed by this information, I believe that my brother and I may have a psychic link (we live hundreds of kilometres apart) and that he somehow knew I was pregnant and then had this 
dream. I'd be interested in any other inputs by people with similar experiences
or who have other ideas about the meaning of the dream.
                                                            Vanessa.
From: v384rv4k@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Lynn Harper)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: dying and loving
Date: 11 Dec 92 17:59:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

A few months ago I had a very disturbing and vivid dream
about drowning.  I woke up before I died.  I believe I
really did stop breathing in my sleep and that this is
what induced the dream.  It was so vivid, though, that I
I obsessed about it for many days.

I often obsess about dreams.  They are so real-seeming, and
usually more exciting than waking life.  A few nights ago
I dreamed about passionately kissing Johnathan Frakes (from
Star Trek TNG).  Now I have a mad crush on him, but I don't
really even think he is attractive!

Lynn
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: ABLB000 <ABLB@musica.macarthur.uws.EDU.AU>
Subject: <none>
Organization: University of Western Sydney, Macarthur
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:00:23 GMT

I don't see anything wrong with sinning in dreams, even when
lucid, because your action cannot affect others in any way.
If some criminals could lucid dream, then perhaps they could
vent their "anger/frustrations/etc" that way, and the world
could be a much better place...
Mike Stone


Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: jl52800@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The Incredible Mr.Wong)
Subject: Tell me what happened....PLEASE!!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:28:10 GMT

Last night, I got some instructions for having an OOBE, so I decided to give it
a try. I laid down and proceeded to relax every muscle. Then I closed my eyes 
and imagined myself spinning around and flying. Next thing I know, my body is
tingling. I thought that was supposed to happen, so I tried to go to the 
next step. I thought of myself floating, but nothing happened. The tingling
started to fade, so I decided to try something different. I made myself get up.
I'm not really sure what happened next, but if I DID separate, things got weird.I felt as if I were half on and half off my bed. For some reason, I could only
see out of one eye (the other was clenched shut and wouldn't open.) I got 
curious and moved my hands in front of my face. I saw nothing. So, I got up, andtried walking/floating around. Well, I didn't float, and felt really heavy. I
tried to pass my hands through the floor and nothing happened. I thought of a
place I wanted to be, and nothing happened. So then I tried to walk through my
door, which didn't work. All of a sudden, I find myself in the middle of a
totally different dream. Any theories?

Mr.Wong


Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: dsoconne@quads.uchicago.edu (Daniel S OConnell)
Subject: Re: Future Seeing in Dreams
Reply-To: dsoconne@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:09:51 GMT

(Rory McIntyre) writes:

>I have also had experiences similar to Dano's; in fact, my experience is
>so similar to his/hers (sorry, Dano, I was unable to determine your 
>gender-I apologize) that I had to post this.  

Uh, male.

>Beginning when I was a child, I have had glimpses primarily of "future
>moments" between full-fledged dreams, as I recall.  As with Dano, the 
>moments themselves were unremarkable in any situational way--no high, 
>dramatic crisis moments were ever seen, but rather I would recall the 
>dream as sort of an overlay from inside my head onto my external 
>environments.

This is fascinating. It is good to know that other people have
had similar experiences.

>This experience was quite a relief, as it served to prove, to myself, 
>that all the other "moments" weren't just my deluded mind.

Exactly. This also has implications for one's theology/ontology
as well. . .I wonder if there are any books/articles elsewhere
that "talk" about this phenomenon.

Dano
From: s_titz@ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Tetris and Dreams
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:38:07 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Fachschaft math/inf, Uni Karlsruhe, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: irau31.ira.uka.de

In article <102050@netnews.upenn.edu> wesley@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Wesley HRJ Gaus) writes:
>
>
>I was just wondering if anyone has ever played Tetris or any other video game
>and dreamed about it sometime later.  I recall playing Tetris a few times for

I'm very often dreaming of playing pinball...

>an hour or so and lateer that day I put my head down and saw the pieces 
>falling and coudln't relax cause the pieces kept coming down. But for some

:-) :-) This reminds me of a piece of commercial spot for some video
game which featured Tetris among other games. It had a sequence of
about two seconds with people running through a street away from
pieces falling down from the sky, fitting between the houses and
squeezing the people... would have made a good nightmare :-)

>reason all the pieces always seemed to fit! Any else experience anythin
>similar and, if so, is there a name for this occurrence??? Thanx.

...when I'm dreaming of pinball, mostly I'm notably more unsuccessful
in the game than in reality. The reason for that is things in dreams
constantly changing, the playfield layout being no exception...

Btw., I think if you're hooked enough on any video game, you'll dream
of it, like you'll dream of everything you do over a long time. (Did
someone say 'newsreading'? ;-)

Olaf

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From: theroux@engr.latech.edu (Scott Theroux)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Lucid Dreams
Date: 17 Dec 92 04:14:57 GMT
Reply-To: theroux@engr.latech.edu
Organization: Louisiana Tech University

Hey y'all,

Has anyone ever tried to convince other individuals in a lucid
dream that the dream was in fact lucid?  I've tried this
on three separate instances, but I was only successful in one
dream.  Here's how the dream went:

Eight of my high school buddies and I were sitting around the
orange circular table in the cafeteria that we always sat at,
when something queued me into realizing that it was a lucid 
dream.  I immediately told my friends that it was a dream so
that we could have a little fun.  After about a minute (or 
so it seemed) of convincing, they believed me and 
pointed out a few things in the dream that reinforced the fact
that it was a dream.  We then decided to have a food fight.  
That was a lot of fun since we nailed the teachers we didn't like
first!  What made it great was that we all knew that we wouldn't
get in trouble for it since it was a dream.

I wasn't as successful with other dreams though.  In one dream
I actually shot fire out of my hands to convince my sister that 
it was a dream, but she still wouldn't believe me.  

If anyone has ever convinced others in a dream that it was a dream
please post or email me.

Thanks,

Scott
From: warriors@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Dave Maycon)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Making Love in Dreams
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:52:13 GMT
Reply-To: warriors@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Dave Maycon)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: eb5ts4.ebay.sun.com


 Two weeks ago my coworker (female) told me that she had a dream with
 her and myself making love.  She said it felt really wierd because
 she never had a dream that felt so life like.  She said she woke up
 in the middle of the dream, went back to sleep and it continued.
 Does this mean that she thinks about me alot, or what.  The sad part
 is that she is married.  This is a true story.                       
      
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: kaminl@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Matt Garretson)
Subject: Re: Tetris and Dreams
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:28:41 GMT

In article <102050@netnews.upenn.edu> wesley@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Wesley HRJ Gaus) writes:
>
>
>I was just wondering if anyone has ever played Tetris or any other video game
>and dreamed about it sometime later.  I recall playing Tetris a few times for

Ohh boy!  Yes, this has happened to me. Freshman year at college. 

Similarly, one summer I worked in a warehouse stack & counting boxes all day.
I had dreams about that at the time as well.

In both cases, I guess it's just all the repetition, which drums the stuff into
your head, thus invading your dreams.

I'll tell ya, I would *hate* to have a *lucid* Tetris dream!!
-- 
Matt Garretson                    :-)                 temporarily kaminl@rpi.edu
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