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From: olt@elwood.isgs.uiuc.edu (Scott Olt)
Subject: Re: How did the Illini choke?
Organization: Madame Tinkertoy's House of Blue Lights
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:34:18 GMT

ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder) writes:

>Oh, no, not you again.  The Return of the Creature That Hates
>Michigan.  Why don't you go back to the alien planet you came from?
>We're really tired of your same old anti-Michigan bullshit.

We? Who's 'we'? You and your pet hamster?

Not everybody loves Michigan, pal...


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From: krall@Think.COM (Tom Krall)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami's NYD Opponent
Date: 20 Nov 1992 17:51:02 GMT
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In article <1992Nov19.204811.1395@u.washington.edu>, crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
|> john@makesys.com (John Turman) writes:
|> 
|> [Drivel about the 'Canes beating up on NFL teams deleted...]
|> 
|> >Any objections?
|> 
|> Yeah.  I object to Reagonomics.  I object to Clarence Thomas.  I object to
|> the Boilerweenie Institute.  I object to overcooked spaghetti.  Mostly,
|> however, I object to the fact that you've got net.access.
|> 

Is this an 'Object'-oriented posting ?????

-Tom
Go Gophs, grab the Pig!

(Sorry, couldn't resist)


|> ****************************************************************************
|> Cliff Slaughterbeck           * 
|> Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   Hey Matt!  The diffusion pump is full of
|> University of Washington      *   water again!
|> Seattle, WA 98195             *
|> ****************************************************************************

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From: peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler)
Subject: Re: Decline Rose Bowl? (was: "Re: HAWKEYE BOWL CHANCES")
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:02:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.151121.18146@netcom.com> stassen@alc.com writes:
>Brett says:
>> Schools can always say "no".  Didn't a Big Ten team refuse to go
>> to the Rose Bowl one year?  (Another team went...)
>
>You're correct.  Ohio State won the Big Ten outright in 1961, but
>turned down the Rose Bowl bid.  The Faculty Council voted 28-25 to
>not permit the team to attend, complaining that they were ``upset
>over the fact that the image of Ohio State is that the school is
>merely an appendage of the football team.''
>
>Minnesota went instead and whomped Pac-10 representative UCLA 21-3.

	This might not be the only time this has happened.  It also
	happened occasionally in basketball during the early days of
	the NCAA tourney...
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From: kschudt@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Karl C Schudt)
Subject: Re: running up scores+ties
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:58:02 GMT

In article <dames.722478326@jones.cs.uiuc.edu> dames@jones.cs.uiuc.edu (Raymond
 Dames) writes:
>al.sorhaindo@execnet.com (al sorhaindo) writes:
>
>
>>The facts : Michigan is winless in three tries versus winning teams
>>this year.
>
>>National Championships decided by teams going, or not going for ties
>
>>1990-1991 Colorado? The Buffaloes were 10-1-1. What were the circumstances
>>of their tie? 10-2 would obviously have dropped them out of their share
>>of the title with Ga. Tech. 11-1 would have gotten them both the AP, and
>>UPI #1 slots.  (11-0-1 Ga. Tech's tie did not come down to a late TD,
>>+ decision to accept a tie)
>
>The tie was with Tennessee 28-28 in the Kickoff Classic.  Colorado dominated
>most of the game with Tennessee coming back in the second half.  If I recall,
>CU was up 28-14 at one point, and the Vols tied it up.  At the time
>Tennessee and CU were both ranked in the top10 (preseason) and I don't think
>the tie lost the Buffs much respect.  It was the 23-22 loss to my Illini at
>Memorial Stadium.  I felt bad afterward because although Colorado defeated
>Washington, Texas, ND, Stanford(?), Nebraska, and Oklahoma, plus the tie with
>Tennessee, their 1 pt. loss to us forced a split with what I considered a
>very undeserving GaTech team.
     You shouldn't feel bad, they should have lost to Mizzoo. It took them 5
downs to win that game. They should have been 9-2-1.

>                             Ray Dames
>                             dames@cs.uiuc.edu

Karl
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From: pbwhite@rodan.acs.syr.edu (White)
Subject: Michigan over Syracuse , Syracuse/Miami
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 12:52:18 EST

First off, I am a huge Michigan fan - this is not a flame

Why in the world is Michigan ranked ahead of Syracuse.  Syracuse has been
playing great ball since they overlooked the Buckeyes in the opener. 
Michigan has been steadily declining.  Michigan ties and Syracuse loses to
the #1 team and Michigan is ahead ??  Come on, it's about time Syracuse
got some respect from the pollsters.

Re Syracuse vs. Miami - Syracuse came up 3 yds short - don't tell me Miami
doesn't deserve the # 1 Ranking.  Miami was getting abused by our second
half offense, but when it came down to it, they got back to back sacks on 
our final drive.  One sack came with only 4 lineman.  That's the stuff #1
teams are made of.  I hate Miami, but they played when they had to.

Brian

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From: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Subject: Re: Roll Tide down the Polls!
Summary: It's a bitter pill for the bellringers
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:07:41 GMT

In article <dkm2.721803415@Isis.MsState.Edu>, dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee) writes:
> 
> You saw it on ESPN.  Mississippi State may have lost, but did get 301 yards 
> on the former #1 defense in the nation.  The tide won on luck, and lost
> 3 defensive players, so Auburn should have an advantage. 

    I knew the cowbells might have made you deaf but what made you blind?  We
owned the first half and then went into the "sit on the lead" mode.  msu got
back into it but, in the process, woke up the sleeping giant.  The "D" got
stiffer and the offense woke up and baffled the "Disbuhlieving Dawg" defense.
Bama took it easy on you guys by going for it on 4th & long instead of kicking 
a field goal to pad the lead late in the game.  No "but coach, the defense
called our signals and made me jump offsides" whining this time.  The proof is
in the pudding and the pudding is done.  msu did play hard and that team was
at its absolute best Saturday night.  It just wasn't good enough.  The guy
that the ESPN people picked as msu's player of the game (on defense, can't
remember his name) played a whale of a game.  He was not fooled in the least
on any of the reverses or fake reverses that Alabama ran and he refused to be
blocked out of the play.  Also, Olando Truitt made one beautiful catch in the
endzone on a ball tipped by an Alabama defender in perfect position.  As I 
said, msu was at their peak while Alabama's game was a bit off most of the
night.

> I do believe John James took care of Mr. Curry, and MSU showed bama what 
> an offensive line is all about.

    I guess so.  He Who Has Given Up No Sacks allowed Mr. Curry one Saturday
night.  When the camera was on James on the msu bench while the mopping up was
going on you could see the grimace on his face from swallowing all those big
words.  He was quoted as saying that he had only seen "that sick look" on 
Alabama's (last year) and Florida's (this year) faces.  I wonder if anyone 
passed him a mirror Saturday night.

> TAMU to #2  !!!!

    Well, at the rate they are going, they may even finish #1.  In the SWC.
That and 50 cents may buy you a cup of coffee.

> P.S.  Oh yeah bama fans, Things tend to drown in New Orleans when a
> hurricane comes in.

    No, no son.  You've got that mixed up.  You *can't* drown The Tide.  It
was your dawgs you saw slipping beneath the surface of the Rolling Tide. 
Now granted, when a hurricane and The Tide meet, you can count on a storm of
epic proportions.  Of course, we still have to dispatch a bunch of tigers and
water lizards before we can go to New Orleans.

--
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   ***  A hurricane is a seasonal thing.  The Tide is forever.  ***

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From: steph@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson)
Subject: Re: Excessive Celebration Penalty
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 06:53:34 GMT

In <1992Nov17.220833.29936@cs.ucla.edu> reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:

>Does anyone remember an actual case in which a ref has made a call on
>this rule in a truly critical situation?  In the case of the Notre Dame
>game, a 15 yard penalty for celebration after the touchdown, on the
>2 pt. conversion try, would have essentially given the game to Penn State.
>Does anyone out there remember a similar case where the refs did call it?
>Or another case in which the refs took away a team's reasonable chance to 
>win for a celebration penalty?

What about the "Sooner Schooner" incident, when Washington thumped Oklahoma
on New Years Day in 1985?
-- 
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From: chen@borodin.cs.unc.edu (Super Dave)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Cal gets beat by former head coach Bruce Snyder
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:54:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

In article <BxtLyE.BC6.1@cs.cmu.edu> bnoble+@cs.cmu.edu (Brian Noble) writes:
>  - The Big Game is in Berkeley.  At least it'll be weird.


Can somebody over there tell me what time the Big Game kicks off?
Also, will it be televised?  Thanks.

dave chen

-ps:	Go Bears
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From: pbwhite@rodan.acs.syr.edu (White)
Subject: Elvis, Marvin, Ward and the 'Cuse
Organization: Civil Engineering Dept., Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 15:45:58 EST

Yet another comment about Michigan
  If you are going to comment about Elvis not being able to throw a pass
  with zip on it, why don't you go after Mr. Ward of Florida State, because
  he throws up moire lame duck passes than Elvis does that's for sure.  I'm
  not knocking the guys ability - just doesn't put a good spiral on the ball
  that often.
	I agree that Michigan tied because they always have one bad game
	each year.  I know - I love those Wolverines.
Also, If you want to see some zip on the ball, tune into the SU-'Canes game,
'cause Marvin and Gino are goin' at it in the Dome!

If the 'Canes have any sort of let up like Michigan did, chalk up a big L for
the Number one team in the Nation.  And to D. Erikson - Watch out for Kirby
Dar Dar on the reverse - He nailed another team from florida last year!
Go 'Cuuuuuuuuuuse!

Brian
P.S. - O.K. So Michigan didn't show up on saturday.  Still looking mighty
	rosy!
From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Cotton Powder Puffs!
Date: 21 Nov 1992 03:41:51 GMT
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
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In <1992Nov20.223648.6051@u.washington.edu> sujan@stein.u.washington.edu writes:

> Why is Notre Dame predicted to go to Cotton Bowl?
> After plying wimpy conference teams, A&M will end up
> with another powder/cotton puff.
> 
> Hope it will change after USC thumps ND.

  For the record, most Aggies I have spoken with would rather have FSU, or
Miami, before ND.  For just the sort of snide shit we're having to put with
above.  Not that it'll stop even if we win...


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
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From: gtao@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Greg )
Subject: Re: Michigan: The Great Paper Tiger
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:06:31 GMT

ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder) writes:

>** Stupidity deleted **

Lighten up, pal.

>Welcome to the kick-them-when-they're-down club.  Now go home so mama
>can tell you what a big boy you are.

Actually, I'm simply a member of the sick-of-hearing-about-an-overrated-
Michigan-football-program-from-obnoxious-fans-who-ignore-any-logical-arguments-
given-to-them club.  


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From: m1d4783@tamsun.tamu.edu (michael denison)
Subject: Re: Lee Corso Screws A&M
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 09:36:23 GMT

In article <1eg8llINNkqj@menudo.uh.edu> HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:
>here too.  Then FSU plows 2-6 Tulane, and A&M has to struggle late to put
>UofH (3-6) away.  SWC followers know Uh is more dangerous than 3-6 would ind-
>icate, but naturally the pollsters (most of 'em, anyway) wouldn't know that.

I was thinking, (just a little midnight-pondering guys!) about what would
happen if the Cougar High team that showed up in the Dome that night had 
played Tulane instead. No offense to FSU or Tulane, but I really think that
90-14 or so would have been the final score. Watching the way the UH offense
dazzled and confused the passively incredible A&M secondary....

But then, maybe not. Tulane just isn't SMU. :)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                                            Fodder. :)

>alma mater on national tv in the guise of "informed observer".  I don't think
>I've a complaint with *what* his opinion is (I just disagree), but with *how*
>he has chosen to express it: "A&M must beat Houston by 40 to keep above FSU..."

I really don't think it would have been possible for *any* team to thump
Cougar High by more than three touchdowns last Thursday. It's hard to thump
up on a team who's offense looks unstoppable.
                           ^^^^^
                                 Anti-Fodder. :)

>Jammer Jim Miller 
>Texas A&M University '89 and '91

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From: peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler)
Subject: Re: Big Ten bowls: all three of em :( (okay, four with PSU)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:02:28 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.150839.5655@desire.wright.edu> demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes:
>In article <Bxtvpn.B3y@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen) writes:
>> 
>>>>	Rose Bowl: Michigan (maybe they'll even win :)
>>>>	Citrus Bowl: Ohio State
>>>>	Holiday Bowl: Michigan State or Illinois
>> 
>>>	This isn't altogether correct.  Iowa can still go to the Holiday
>>>	if Illinois beats MSU and Iowa wins at Minnesota...
>> 
>> 	Also if both Illinois and Iowa win, Illinois will go to the
>> Independence, Peach, Copper or Freedom Bowl.  So there will be three
>> Big Ten teams in bowls for sure and possibly four if Iowa wins.
>
>	Isn't the Peach already locked with NC State and a Miss. team?

	Mississippi State and probably North Carolina.  NC State apparently
	has bigger fish to fry...

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From: mln@sunkj.larc.nasa.gov (Michael L Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: FIRE COOPER!
Date: 23 Nov 1992 17:49:32 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
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Keywords: like, right now!

tOSU should can John Cooper!  What a sorry excuse 
of a coach.  He is leading tOSU into mediocrity
fast!

My gawd, he's only won *8* games this year!  Only eight!

What a loser.



BTW, do you think Cooper would like it in Blacksburg, VA?

Michael Nelson


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From: jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich)
Subject: Re: Notre Dame vs. Florida State in 1993
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:06:57 GMT

!Patrick E Fleming writes:

>Justin Frederich writes:

>>Matt, it's like you say ND may get an ugly reception in the South but the
>>game will be in Orlando which at least 200 miles South of Tallahassee.

>Let's think about this.  Will moving the game to Orlando change the 
>partisanship such that the crowd will be pro-Notre Dame?  I serriously doubt 
>it.  FSU will still enjoy a very substantial home field advantage.

       -it won't be anything like playing in the Doak

>I'm kind of surprised that teh Citrus Bowl doesn't try to get at least one game
>played there per year during the regular season.  It would be a pretty good bet
>that they would seel the place out any time they could land one of the Florida 

       -hey good idea. Why doesn't ND play FSU there instead of South Bend

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From: weyland@sn.jsc.nasa.gov (WEYLAND,MARK)
Subject: test
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Arizona MIS Department - Mosaic Group
Date: 18 Nov 1992 08:40 CST  

I am new to the net and this group, I posted on alt.test and it seemed to 
work, however I don't think my post in rsfc made it anywhere.  If anyone 
reads this please respond. thanks.

Gig 'EM

MDW '88
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From: scott@ods.com (Scott Harper)
Subject: Re: AP make FSU #3
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:42:33 GMT

William Karamo Motley (wm1o+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:
: At least the "HEY I'M UNDEFEATED I DESERVE IT" rule didn't rear it's
: head again.  TAMU has had the shittiest schedule out of the top five
: atleast.  I mean, almost everyone in the PAC-10(I'm not a PAC-10 fan,
: just giving credit where credit is due) has had a better schedule than
: A&M. What legitimate squad has A&M beaten to claim that #3 spot???? 

Wellll, let's see....  there was that Stanford team, from the "mighty"
PAC-10...  (wasn't it just a few weeks ago that everyone was slamming
Washington because they didn't play anyone?)

: Hopefully the USA TODAY/CNN poll will have FSU at #2 ahead of Alabama
: and TAMU.  Alabama also has had a shit schedule and they have not played
: anyone worth mentioning to claim that #2 spot.  Their toughest opponent
: was Tennessee.  FSU barely lost to Miami on Miami's home field and has
: rolled over everyone else they played, whereas BAMA just got by
: Mississippi State, who's not even ranked!  Arizona's schedule has been

Ooops, Miss St. was ranked #16 going into the game vs Alabama, came out
at #18...

: tougher than Alabama's and TAMU's crap schedules combined!
: 
: Will

Hey sophomore, get a clue.
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From: jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich)
Subject: Re: FSU 1993 Schedule
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:18:15 GMT

   robert.dieckmann writes:

> (Jason "Raise Sugar Cane" Fawcett) writes:
>> 
>> That FSU war-chant gives a very hostile feeling to the game.  Also, if you
>> know that flaming spear in the ground means the whole Seminole Nation is
>> at war, it adds feeling.   
>> 

>Sounds cool, but picture this:

>An imposing Knight in Shining Armor with scarlet plumage streaming
>from his helmet and riding on a grey and white-speckled steed
>charges onto the playing field with his lance poised.  As he reaches
>midfield he impales the oppositions' mascot (such as a panther,
>an Ibis, a Hokie, an eagle, mountaineer, owl or an orange) while the
>crowd screams over and over "Yes your majesty, yes your majesty."

Wow - I've got to start going to some USC games !!!

What happens when they play the Oregon State Beavers ??? 

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From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado)
Subject: Re: FSU 1993 Schedule
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 23:49:46 GMT

In article <BxvtK2.7H6@encore.com> jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett) writes:
>News-Software: NN 6.4.16
>
>In <1992Nov17.161720.3859@lgc.com> mbs@zycor.lgc.com (Matt Shostak) writes:
>
>| 
>| I think ND must not have wanted to play
>| in FSU's backyard.  ND usually gets a very ugly reception down south, which
>| has soured many ND alums from ever wanting to play there again.  (Though,
>| of course, they've never played at FSU).  I hope this turns into a good
>| series, meaning that there won't be bad blood like ND has with another
>| Florida school.  Most ND fans like and respect FSU (though I'm sure they
>| wish FSU would find Miami's number someday), and I hope ND does
>| go to FSU's home stadium to play someday.
>
>ND won't like FSU's blood any better than the Canes, after the Noles
>throw that flamming spear into the ground.  
>
>I just know the leprechauns will just love the FSU war-chant, as it gets
>stuck in your head for two weeks..

No shit, I have to put up with that goddamn noise all year round. I personally
can't stand that chant...or the stupid chop...I wish they would stop doing 
that shit at the games...that and the wave...puhleeze!


Kevin


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