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From: Stephen Jonke <jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: Photo CD
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7575EEA5F015C5D@joe.gsfc.nasa.gov>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 18 Dec 92 15:56:42 GMT
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 15:56:50 GMT

In article <BzD1JL.F3y@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Loren Buchanan, buck@ra.nrl.navy.mil
writes:
>Then don't buy any of the Kodak PCD units.  Buy the Philips CD-I player which
>does some squeezing to display the 1.5 aspect ration image on 1.33 aspect
>ratio TV.

What do you mean by squeezing?  You don't literally mean squeezing (i.e.
distorting the image to force it to 1.33:1) do you?  That would be insane!

The ideal way to display photoCDs is on a computer with 24 bit color.  At
least on a Mac you can make the window any size and view as little or as much
of the whole original image as you want and you can use your pictures in
documents, applications, etc.

I hope that Kodak's players fail miserably, but that photoCD itself succeeds. 
If Kodak's players sell, then cropping will become the norm just as it has for
movies on video tape.  Let the user crop or not crop as desired/needed.

Steve
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: patten@lumchan.ifa.hawaii.edu (Brian Michael Patten)
Subject: Re: MDP-455 Place to buy it.... <again>
Organization: Institute for Astronomy, University of Hawaii
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:19:31 GMT

In article <1992Dec9.224727.13451@PacBell.COM>, sslok@srv.PacBell.COM (Sam Lok)
|> writes:
|> In article <1992Dec9.204830.29986@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> mucci@circle.cs.jhu.edu 
|> (Philip Mucci) writes:
|> >	5) What's the deal with Columbia house? Nothing, just a sucker deal
|> >that gives you the same deal as if you called them directly...
|> 
|> The special LD offer I got when I bought my MDP333 was 3 LD for $1 each and
|> nothing more to buy.   That's practically 3 free LDs.  Is the new offer that
|> comes with a new player different?
|> 
|> -- 
|> Sam Lok	Pacific*Bell, California	sslok@srv.PacBell.Com


  I just bought an MDP-455.  In the box was promotional offer from
Criterion/Voyager for $20 off the purchase of one LD from a short list
of "selected" LDs.  Once you buy the discounted LD, Criterion/Voyager will
send you a coupon for an additional $10 off the purchase of another LD.
I don't have the short list of "selected" LDs in front of me at the
moment, but it is very short (about 10 selections) and there are only a 
couple of disks I would interested in anyway.  Overall, this doesn't seem 
like much of a deal.

  It's interesting to see all the posts to this group describing all the
different promotional offers people have received with their LD players.
Is each box from Sony unique?


-----

  Brian M. Patten
  Institute for Astronomy
  University of Hawaii
  patten@lumchan.ifa.hawaii.edu
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From: ben_wen@athena.mit.edu (Benson Wen)
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.photo,rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Photo CD
Date: 19 Dec 92 20:36:22 GMT
	<1go790INN2dm@agate.berkeley.edu> <PD.92Dec17104743@horus.sics.se>
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <PD.92Dec17104743@horus.sics.se> pd@sics.se (Per Danielsson) writes:

   In article <1go790INN2dm@agate.berkeley.edu> spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope) writes:

   >In article <1go4f1INNhsu@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Peter Hsrris <pharris@ucscm.ucsc.edu> writes:

   >>If one takes as a starting point Kodachromes maximum resolving power
   >>under optimum lighting conditions of (I recall) 165 lines per mm (OK, let
   >>s be modern and call it 165 PIXELS per mm.), squares it (were talking
   >>horizontal and vertical dimensions here, so you square 165) and
   >>multiplies that out by the dimensions of a 35 mm slide (24 x 36 mm)

Actually, wouldn't 165 pixels *NOT* give you the same resolution
as 165 lines?  That is, it requires *TWO* pixels to make up a line
pair.  So, it takes 330 pixels / mm to get the same resolution as 165
lp/mm?

That is

Take this matrix (please!) 20x8
....................
....................
....................
....................
....................
....................
....................
....................

This has a resolution of 10 lp in the horizonal direction
X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.
X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.
X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.
X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.
X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.
X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.
X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.
X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.

A solid X'd field is just pure white:
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Hell, you don't know if the pattern in there has a spatial frequency
of 20 lp/matrix or 20000 lp/matrix...it's beyond the resolution of the
matrix.  

I guess my question is about what happens if you have more than 1-bit
values for the pixels...

   >If one does this one gets 3960 x 5940.

   >I don't recall exactly, but the Photo CD is about 3000 x 4000
   >pixels.

   16 base is 2048 x 3072.

   >That's not a whole lot less resolution.  Photo CD's are
   >much higher resolution than most all-digital photographs.
   >That's one of the big advantages of the hybrid approach.

   Resolution isn't the only thing.
   --
   Per Danielsson				pd@sics.se
   Swedish Institute of Computer Science, PO Box 1263, S-164 28 KISTA, SWEDEN
--

|| Benson Wen
|| ben_wen@athena.mit.edu
|| queeph@hing.lcs.mit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: musjndx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Jonathan N. Deitch)
Subject: Re: Lost Picture - Autotracking?
Keywords: Help, VCR
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:32:13 GMT

Note ... I tried to email this, but gsu's machine won't admit that sander.
lockheed.com exists ...

reuter@sander.lockheed.com (Jeff Reuter) writes:

>Symptoms:  The recorded image will play for 1/2 second with a few horizontal 
>lines across the middle, then the screen goes solid blue as if there were no 
>signal present.  The auto-tracking indicator also goes out.  Some audio is 
>present, but it either plays at double normal speed or it snaps in and 
>out, and I can sometimes hear a different (old?) soundtrack.  When scanning 
>forward or backward, or showing a still frame, the image looks normal (so I 
>know that *something* is being recorded).  Adjusting the manual tracking has 
>no effect.

Assuming that tapes recorded on your VCR also don't play on *other* vcrs, than
your problem is very likely your audio/control head and/or the audio/control
pc board.

The reason : your video is getting recorded and played back.  But, the vcr is
not getting the linear audio signal.  Neither is it getting the control signal.

Your tape is recorded like this :

**********      Audio left/right signal
XXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXX      The video signal, recorded in diagnoal (helical) slices.
XXXXXXXXXX
**********      Sync/Control signal.

The control signal is simply a 30 hz pulse, used to synchronize the vcr's
internal frame clock with the video frames recorded on the tape.  If the vcr
can't read this signal, than it can't sync to the video and all hell breaks
loose.  If pre-recorded tapes will play, than your read circuits are ok.  If
nothing will plaay, then your read circuits are not okay.  If recorded tapes
don't work on other vcrs and don't work on your vcr, then you are not writing
any sync information.  This is what I think your problem is as your are not
recording audio either.

Unfortunately, this will probably require replacing the whole audio/control
pc board ... unless you or your repairman are good at electronic fault tracing.

Good Luck !

- Jonathan

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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: pngai@adobe.com (Phil Ngai)
Subject: Re: This group is worthless (cable signal amplifiers)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:56:03 GMT

In general, there are so many requests for help that I only help people
who have helped me (either in particular or in general, like Bob Niland)
or who ask a particularly interesting question.

People who think they have a right to service go right to the bottom
of the list, because that means they think that if I help them, I
am only doing what I am supposed to do.

You don't seem to understand that any help at all you get is a FAVOR.
No one here is being paid to help you. If you can't even show any
gratitude, well...

-- 
My opinions are my own.

Newsgroups: rec.video
From: hhamouda@unity.ncsu.edu (Hechmi Hamouda)
Subject: Help on how to add Titles/Editing/Special Effects 
Organization: North Carolina State University Project Unity
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:12:57 GMT

I would appreciate any suggestion or information on software and hardware which are available for MacIntosh SE, LC, or II, that can help add titles, editing, and inserting basic special effects to existing video (NTSC) recording.

E-mail replies, please - unless you want to post to the newsgroup

Thanks in advance,

Hechmi Hamouda
hechmi_hamouda@ncsu.edu
From: johan@cav2.crc.canon.co.jp
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: RS-232C controlled Hi8 Deck
Date: 14 Dec 92 00:01:22 GMT
Organization: Canon Research Center, Canon Inc., Kanagawa, JAPAN
X-Nntp-Posting-Host: cav2

Is there anyone who has experience of the computer-controlled Hi8 video deck
SONY CVD-1000? I'm particularly interested in whether there is a PAL 
version or not. It sells for JPY 248,000 (s.r.p.) in Japan and according
the specs I've at hand it has got a lot of nice features:
1. Both RC-time code and "professional Hi8 time code" (what's the difference?)
2. Various search abilities (time-codes, Index, Data-code, HMS, chapter)
3. Audio and video (both Y and C) levels can be separately controlled.
4. Input selector also controllable from the computer
5. PCM after-recording, Insert-editing
6. Hi8/Standard 8 automatic/manual switch
7. picture search, FF, REW-monitor, slow motion (1/5, 1/10, backwards)
8. Pose-just (this is "Japlish" I think, does anyone understand the meaning?)

Most of the above is controlled by the VISCA (RS-232C) port using the VISCA
protocol. Anyone who nows the details of this protocol ?

- Johan
johan@cav2.crc.canon.co.jp
From: chen@speed.uucp (Lilei Chen)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Current price for Hi-8 and SVHS tapes
Keywords: Fuji Hi-8 tapes and SVHS tapes
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:46:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: das.1992Dec17.214614.946
Distribution: usa
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University

I am planning to buy mail order Fuji double coated Hi-8 and SVHS tapes
from Tape World.  I am wondering if anyone knows the current price for
those tapes.  Please send your information to:

          chen@speed.harvard.edu

Thanx.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: buck@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Loren Buchanan)
Subject: Re: Photo CD
Followup-To: rec.video
Summary: Yep it squeezes!
Keywords: PhotoCD
Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:12:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.155650.18249@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov> Stephen Jonke <jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov> writes:
>In article <BzD1JL.F3y@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Loren Buchanan, buck@ra.nrl.navy.mil
>writes:
>>Then don't buy any of the Kodak PCD units.  Buy the Philips CD-I player which
>>does some squeezing to display the 1.5 aspect ration image on 1.33 aspect
>>ratio TV.
>
>What do you mean by squeezing?  You don't literally mean squeezing (i.e.
>distorting the image to force it to 1.33:1) do you?  That would be insane!

Yep, it squeezes to get part way there, and I omitted saying that it letter
boxes (displays some gray bands at the bottom of the screen).  When I made my
earlier posting I didn't want to type in everything that was said in the 
Popular Photography October 1992 issue.  The article did say that many viewers
prefered the complete and slightly distorted image (the pixels are not quite
square).  There is a "full" button on the Kodak remote control that will show 
the entire image (Base/4 for landscape and Base/16 for portrait images).

B Cing U

Buck

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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: dave@imax.imax.com (Dave Martindale)
Subject: Re: Why not the Sony PVM-1942Q/44Q?
Organization: Imax Corporation, Mississauga Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:39:42 GMT

geoff@tudor.com writes:
> 
>Given the unavailability of video monitors for the consumer market that
>even make an attempt to be NTSC compliant, how much sense would it make
>to consider appropriating a low-end broadcast-quality monitor like the
>Sony PVM-1942Q/44Q for home use?  It *is* selectable to 6500K, and uses
>SMPTE `C' phosphors.  Then again, it is also only 19", has no remote,
>and costs ~ 2K or so.  If the viewing distance were kept to 8 feet or
>so, would it compare favorably with, say, the PVM-2530? (the monitor
>I'm currently considering)  How difficult is it to find (and maintain)
>the optimal settings for the PVM-1942Q/44Q?  Would special equipment be
>necessary?
> 
>Since I have never heard of anyone using (or recommending for use) a
>broadcast-quality monitor at home, I am guessing there must be some
>pretty compelling reasons not to.

I'm in the process of buying a PVM-1944Q for use at work.  As far as
I can tell, it would make a fine home monitor - if you don't mind
paying about $2000 (CDN) for a 19 inch monitor with no tuner, no
remote, and no special effects.  On the other hand, it does have
RGB and Y/R-Y/B-Y inputs, underscan, pulse cross, and is generally
set up like a studio video monitor.

Its major attraction in the professional world is that it's so cheap.
We looked at other professional video monitors, and most seem to be
in the $4000-$7000 range.  Many have internal microprocessors that
do auto brightness and colour calibration - a 2 to 3.5 times the price.

I expect the PVM-1944Q will need occasional alignment, but since I'm
not using it to align or match TV cameras to each other, or to judge
colour correction on a telecine, I'm not *that* critical of how it
looks.  Yes, it will be more difficult to adjust than pressing a
"calibrate" button on the more expensive monitors, but I expect that
pots will be more accessible than on typical consumer sets, since
they *are* expected to be adjusted regularly.  Also, professional
monitors will almost certainly have a 3-prong cord and grounded chassis,
and thus be a lot safer to adjust than consumer sets.

Getting back to the more general question, I'd guess that nobody recommends
professional monitors for home use because of the cost.  This particular
"low-end" professional monitor is still about 3 times the cost of most
pretty good consumer sets of the same size.

	Dave
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: sdt8s@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Steve Tilson)
Subject: REQUEST: LD player recommendations
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:58:05 GMT

I am not a frequent reader of this group and therefore
apologize if my question covers ground that is covered too
often. But I am in need of advice.

I'm currently in the market for a laserdisc player.
Specifically, I'd like one that plays all the formats -- LD's,
CLD's, CD's -- and falls within the $350-450 price range. (I'm
a student and my budget is therefore rather limited.)

Special effects are not all that important to me; I can live
wihtout jog-and-shuttle, one shot memory, still with sound,
etc. (Can you tell most of my LD exposure has been to
Pioneers?) But the basic features -- still step, chapter
search, etc. are musts, as is digital sound.

So if you've got any suggestions on models I should consider,
or reputable mail-order establishments that might offer good
deals, please e-mail me at sdt8s@curry.edschool.virginia.edu
or sdt8s@virginia.edu. I will not have Net access between Dec.
20 and Jan. 18, so please mail responses, do not post.
Likewise, if anyone else is interested in hearing any responses
I get, e-mail me and I'll be happy to share what I know (which
will hopefully be more than I know now.)

Thanks,
Steve
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: chuck@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com (Chuck Hartman)
Subject: PIP processor - A/V receiver or standalone
Organization: IBM Advanced Workstations Division, Palo Alto
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 23:43:09 GMT

I have a PIP processor in my VCR and in my Satellite receiver.
However, neither of them drives my TV/monitor which makes the
PIP function almost useless. Since my A/V receiver switched all
of my video sources and drives the TV/monitor, it would make much
more sense for the PIP processor to be in the A/V receiver or
between the A/V receiver and the monitor. Does anyone know of an
A/V receiver with the PIP function built-in, or a prosumer grade
standalone PIP box?

Newsgroups: rec.video
From: t90534am@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Akira Mito)
Subject: Re: S-VHS quality
Organization: Department of Environmental Information,Keio University Shonan
	Fujisawa Campus(SFC),Japan.
	<gregpen.723946058@crash.cts.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:08:19 GMT

In article <gregpen.723946058@crash.cts.com>
gregpen@crash.cts.com (Greg Penetrante) writes:

 |Here's another rhetorical question: IS IT POSSIBLE FOR SONY OR PANASONIC TO 
 |RELEASE THEIR BETACAM OR M-II FORMATS INTO THE CONSUMER WORLD? Or will these
 |giant Japanese conglomerates lose their broadcast/industrial market share????

 M-II Promind series are what you mentioned. But it costs over $5000,
per deck right? I wish I could get one at low price, but they say their
reliability depends on the cost. They don't battle because both know
what would happens.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Akira Mito(E-Mail:t90534am@sfc.keio.ac.jp)
  Junior@SFC(Keio Univ. Shownan Fujisawa Campus) 
  Department: Environmental Information (It's so COOL,isn't it?)
  Director of the SFC Hi-Vision Club, and member of SFC TiME, C-music.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: kega@nobeltech.se (Kent Gabrin)
Subject: NICAM => Digital output.
Organization: NobelTech AB
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 12:13:32 GMT

  Hello all,

Since I'm an owner of DAT players with digital input I wonder if it
exists any VHS machines (or TV tuner) with Stereo NICAM *) decoder
that has a digital output? Or if any manufactories are planning to
include digital output of comming NICAM products.

NICAM = Nearly Instantenaously Companded Audio Multiplex. A digital
system to broadcast stereo sound television used here in Sweden.

Regards Kent

Kent Gabrin   NobelTech Systems    ! My thinking is not as great as
S-175 88 Jaerfaella      Sweden    ! Oliver Berendinus Bumble /Will Try
KEGA@nobeltech.se
From: Power@cup.portal.com (Ron A Uitz)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: DirecTV Info?
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 06:53:44 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>Does anyone have some current information on "DirecTV"?  This is a direct
>broadcast satellite system that, the last I heard, was supposed to be up
>and running sometime in early '93.  As I recall there would be an 18" dish

It's supposed to be up and running in early '94. . . last I read, things
were on schedule.  Earlier this month, some of the major cable programmers
announced that they would sell their channels to DirecTv, so it could
turn out to be a genuine competitor to cable.  
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: miker@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (Mike Riley)
Subject: For sale: Sony V99 Hi-8 camcorder, $720
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 07:31:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

Primarily due to my wife's reluctance to use a 3.5lb video camera,
we've purchased a 1.9lb camera, and we must sell the "heavy one".
It was purchased new in February 1990 (for $1600!), and we've had
no problems whatsoever with it - except that my wife thinks it's
too heavy.  We've put around 25 tapes through it (almost all Hi-8),
and the results are beautiful.

Some technical details:

	- 420,000 pixel CCD, 2/3"
	- 8x variable speed power zoom
	- dual capsule microphone
	- variable shutter speed (1/60 to 1/10,000 sec)
	- variable iris setting
	- crystal-clear slow motion and freeze frame
	- TTL autofocus (* see below)
	- 2 page digital scrolling superimposer
	- flying erase head for noise free picture transitions
	- edit search, index mark and search/scan functions
        - control-L capable
	- S-video input and output
	- fader

There are numerous other standard features, such as date/time generator,
data screen function, macro focus, high-gain switch for low light
shooting, manual override on white balance, focus and exposure.  The 
battery is new, and we usually get around 50 minutes per charge.

The autofocus works just fine if there is sufficient contrast.  However,
if the light level or contrast is low, it seems to hunt.  In my experience
this occurs with all through-the-lens focus systems I've seen - although
some of the more recent offerings fare a little better.  I don't
understand why infra-red focus isn't more popular.

The camera is in perfect condition.  It comes with all manuals, cables,
charger and original packaging.

I'm asking $720, or a reasonable offer.  If you have a comment, or want to
make an offer, please reply.

    
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