From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: China's Education Expenditure
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 01:06:49 GMT

In article <ROTEN.92Apr13123456@CUBA.gsfc.nasa.gov> roten@CUBA.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Roten) writes:
>In article <1992Apr12.175345.4014@ulowell.ulowell.edu> 
>cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:
>
>   In article <31596@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> jzhang@sdcc3.ucsd.edu writes:
>   >(Note: followup-to soc.culture.china) 
>   >
>   >
>   >Table 4 gives a vivid picture of the shrinking role of China's central
>   >government in the economic activities of the nation, as a result of
>   >the decade of economic reforms. Despite being known as the world's
>   >largest socialist/communist country, the percentage of total government
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>   >expenditure/GNP in China is even lower than that in the U.S., 
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>   To most people, "socialist/communist", especially "communist" is 
>   irratating words. They have been discredited. There is no way China 
>   can be slassified as "communist" country. But the Westers still keep 
>   calling China a "communist", simply because China used to be a 
>   communist country, and China did not yeild  Westen bully like USSR 
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>   did, China now have thier own agenda to reform her system, not to copy 
>   ^^^
>
>For Pete's sake.  Give me a break!  I suppose 25 years of military 
>spending to the tune of 20% of the Soviet GNP constitutes 'yielding to 
I regret on "like USSR did". It was not a major point of the sentence, though.
USSR did, under pressure from West, what it deserved. USSR is the first one
to be blamed on.
>the bullying of the West'.  Because that, and a system based inherently 
>on the KGB, is what brought the USSR to the crisis that Gorby inherited.  
West, expecially U.S.A. toppled USSR, is not because of commy, or KGB.
It was geopolitcially inevitable. U.S.A. eyed at Russia Empire started from
the forced perchased of Alaska. At the time untill now, Russia and her colonies
are one of major potential rivalry of U.S.A.. U.S.A. stradegists were out played
any body else. U.S.A. started to build up Japan and Germany(by trading ties)
since them serveral times--- before Russia-Japan coflict in the turn of 
this centry, before WWI, before WWII, during Cold War, All aimed at Russia 
Empire(or USSR). Though there were brief occasions of Germany and Japan became 
too big to handle, took pounch from U.S.A.

>
>Please do not get your 'facts' exclusively from the People's Daily, OK?  
This is the least for you to worry about! I tried all time to be objective,
though from a Chinese point of view. I remeber when I was back in China, I often
was accused by CCP supporters or memebers, cadres of being "poinsoned by 
West propogada". I told them that if my mind were so easy to be poisioned, it
should be by CCP's propaganda, because my first lesson of school was "
long live Chairman Mao!", was bombarded by CCP propaganda far more time than
I picked up opposite arguments from VOA, and Taiwan's Radio(I did not tell last
one though). Do you see the similarity of accusation? I do. 
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>   from West. Maybe , China should accuse U.S.A having too much of state 
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>   control over its economy, calll U.S. a "socialist" country.
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>Now _that_ is a charge with a certain degree of merit!  
There are differences between China central governmet's GNP portion and
U.S. fed's GNP portion(25%) though. 
Most of Chinese central government portion GNP goes to state ran, money losing
enterprises; Most of Fed's GNP portion goes to Welfare. The former may losing
say 10%(-10% profits); the later lose all of them, but do result in happier
eldlies and fat, disobedient rap musicians thought. The former monoplied
China's high tech, havy industry, then slows down the development in those
areas; the later did nothing to strength the U.S.. 
Even odder!
>
>   What a odd world!
>   >not to say the former USSR. From this table, we can see that
>   >Zhenqin Li
>   >jzhang@sdcc3.ucsd.edu
>
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