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From: hibrown@sarah.albany.edu (Herb Brown)
Subject: Re: Linear Programming
Keywords: simplex linear programming
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 11:57:01 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.235251.21961@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> sie_0003@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Brian Badger) writes:
>Does anyone have any information on linear programming programs for the
>Amiga?  I have tried ASimplex off of FF 250 but the file format is too
>alien to me.  Are there any other programs commercial or public that solve
>linear programming problems?  I'd really hate to write one right now...
>school is getting the best of me.
>
>			Brian Badger
>			sie_0003@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu


Does your university use MAPLE V? If so, MAPLE V has a Simplex Linear
Operation package that you can use.

Herb


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From: flui@fraser.sfu.ca (Francis Wai Gee Lui)
Subject: Re: Are there any PD bad block fixers ?
Keywords: n
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 11:34:42 GMT

In article <7rsznbb@rpi.edu> danaf@rpi.edu writes:
>QuarterBack Tools, in its current version (1.5.34.2.6..8.6.9q or something...)
>seems fairly stable, but it's gone through a sh*tload of bugs in the past. I
>own it, but I don't really trust it. 

Does anyone know the latest version of QB Tools?  I have version 1.3d, but
I sent in my user registration card after New Horizons took over (or did I
just misplace it?).  Also, when will QB Tools undergo a major revision?
It looks pretty ugly under OS 2.04...

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From: liam@durie.amigans.gen.nz (Liam Greenwood)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Does an Adaptec 4000A work on a A590
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:28:31 GMT+12
Organization: It's Home, really...
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        Does an Adaptec 4000A MFM --> SCSI work on a A590/A2091 controller.
I have access to some MFM drives and would like to use 'em...

                            Thanks, Liam

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From: madsen@cs.iastate.edu (Dave Madsen)
Subject: GNU Emacs 18.56 1.26 Question
Summary: emacs vertical cursor repeat
Keywords: emacs, gnu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:25:15 GMT

I have a quick question about the latest port of GNU Emacs for the Amiga
(which I think is an excellent port, BTW).  Whenever I hold down the up
or down arrow key to scoll the cursor vertically on the page, the cursor
disappears until I release the key.  The cursor is going where it is
supposed to, but I just can't see where it is going! ;)  I have tried
setting the key repeat rate to the lowest it will go in the 2.04 prefs,
but the cursor still disappears..  Is there any nifty option or lisp
function I can use to make my cursor reappear?  I assume this was done
to try and speed up cursor movements, but I would really like to see
my cursor in transition..  any hints?

Dave


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From: flui@fraser.sfu.ca (Francis Wai Gee Lui)
Subject: Adobe Type 1 conversion/kludging
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 22:52:53 GMT

I managed to use dl2pfb from amiga.physik.unizh.ch to convert a SoftFaces
Postscript download font to an Adobe Type 1 .PFB file.  Now, I need something
to create/kludge an .AFM file from it.  I know the character spacing and
kerning information may not be accurate, but I just want a method of converting
my SoftFaces Nimbus-Q fonts into Compugraphic fonts for use with Pro Page.

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From: cschneid@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Schneider Christian)
Subject: Re: Has ANYONE got HDMem to work?
Organization: Informatik Club d. Universitaet, Zuerich
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:28:18 GMT

In article <Bw076s.JGw@cs.vu.nl> wgkramer@cs.vu.nl (Ewout Kramer) writes:
>
>I tried HDMem from one of the newest Fishdisks, but I can't get it to work.
>It starts off well, when I 'avail' my memory I have indeed gained 2MB of
>free memory, but as soon as I really need those 2MB, the filesystem hangs.
>
>Suggestions anyone?

Yeah, delete HDMem and buy GigaMem instead ;-)
Sorry, could not resist :-)

- Chris



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From: David_Corn@fcircus.sat.tx.us (David Corn)
Subject: Re: File size limit for DMS/Zoom - what do people think
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.25c beta (Oct 09 1992)
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:14:36 CDT
Organization: The Flying Circus BBS, San Antonio, TX


In <1992Oct14.010015.26461@newsroom.utas.edu.au>, u920604@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Matthew King) writes:
> After using full disk compression for a while now - and transferring files via
> an ibm disk - I thought that maybe dms and zoom should have a maximum file size
> option where the user can choose to have the file less than x kbytes and if 
> the compressed file exceeds this limit it starts output to another file?
> 
> I thought that there must be a lot of users out there using ibm<-->amiga or
> Amiga<-->Amax<-->Mac transfers where there is a limit of 713k and 800k resp.
> 
> What do people think of this?  If you can contact the programmers somehow
> please do?  What about Lha 2.0 is this a possibilty when it is released.
> 
> Matthew King(u920604@postoffice.utas.edu.au)
Suggestion:

Use SPLIT and JOIN.

Join is available in AMIGADOS.  Split should be on a BBS near you.

You can do: 

Split thisfile 400

and 400k splits of the file are written, with the names being thisfile.1
and thisfile.x+1.



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From: sacke@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeff Hanna)
Subject: Re: GVP030 & Gigamem?
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 17:34:03 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.132551.24163@cc.gatech.edu> kennethm@cc.gatech.edu (Kenneth Moorman) writes:
>General Gigamem question --- is it a PD, shareware, etc package or
>is it commercial?   If the first, where can it be found, if the
>second, who is the makers/distributers.   Thanks.
>
>			- Kenneth Moorman (kennethm@cc.gatech.edu)

GigaMem is a commercial product.  It is being distributed my INOVAtronics.

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From: kxs5829@ultb.isc.rit.edu (K.X. Saunders)
Subject: Re: Rev 29 of ixemum.lib? WHERE??? 
Originator: kxs5829@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:50:52 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.172408.28492@ugle.unit.no> torrunes@Lise.Unit.NO (Tor Rune Skoglund) writes:
>Hi, I've got a program (sqldb) which requires revision 29 of ixemul.library!
>
>Where can I find it ?? (Markus ...?)
>
>I've asked archie, but he only gives pointers to the rev 24 version.... :-(
>(Which I thought was the latest one?)
>
>HELP!!!

	Try wuarchive.wustl.edu, /systems/amiga/incoming/misc/ixemul.lzh.  It's
version 39.44, not 29, btw.

	- Kyle

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From: koren@fc.hp.com (Steve Koren)
Subject: Re: Process KILL/LIST Program???
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:41:32 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
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> Boy, am I happy to hear that.  :)  I just couldn't find a replacement.
> BTW:  It would be nice if you'd find a way to send signals to a
> program.  Kind of like "break", but using your lovely process numbers?

That can probably be done, at least for CLI processes.  I could also
provide an externally visible way to translate process numbers into CLI
numbers if need be, since CLI numbers are more useful to the rest of the
world.

> The problems I have don't cause JM to crash, they cause OTHER programs
> to crash.  I've traced this down to EXACT locations in Term 2.x.

That's really wierd, since I know several people using Term 2.1 (?
whatever the latest is, anyway) and also using JM and none of them have
had any crashes or other troubles even though they use Term every day.
Earlier versions of JM may have introduced a serial transfer problem
especially for lower speed CPUs, but that was fixed in 1.1b by not
turning off interrupts.  I've even run Term 2.0 and JM myself and
haven't had troubles.  I suspect something else may be going on here,
but I'm not sure what yet.

> Hmm.  What about CPR 6.0?

Dunno, since I just ordered it last week.  But it should get here soon -
the SAS person said by Wednesday.

> So is it going to use a more "legal" method to do what it does?  I'd

Yes.  But what it is doing now should only cause problems for a *very*
small number of programs.  Probably 99.9% of everything I have tried
works great, and I have tried a *lot* of stuff, both commercial and PD.
JM doesn't even bother the commercial multitasking games I've tried,
such as MM3, EOBII, or Civilization.  There is one intermittent enforcer
hit that I hope to fix in 1.2.  (BTW, a brief note to anyone who uses
sksh: SKsh 2.1 will fix all the enforcer hits.  I've got a version of
enforcer that works on my 040 system now, so with only a little work I
easily found the hits in 2.0).

Now, that said, it is possible that if another program goes walking
across certain sections of memory, it could screw up JM or JM's handling
of other programs.  But that would be due to a bug in that program.
There were some buggy versions of Term out there, but there were also
some remarkably stable versions, too.  If another program is buggy
anyway, I'm not sure you can really blame JM if it crashes.  The stable
ones mostly seem to do fine, with just the 3 exceptions I mentioned last
time (all of which fail for known reasons).

  - steve
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From: hibrown@sarah.albany.edu (Herb Brown)
Subject: Re: Looking for Mathematica-style pgm.
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 12:39:33 GMT

In article <4597@equinox.unr.edu> dollens@equinox.unr.edu (C Blake Dollens) writes:
>
>I don't know a whole lot about Maple V myself, but I do have the August 1992
>issue of AmigaWorld in front of me. :-)  According to it, Maple V is 
>available for $450 list price from Waterloo Maple Software.  If you're
>interested in knowing more, there's a fairly extensive article in that issue
>beginning on page 29.  Hope that helps a little.
>
>
>Blake
>-- 

We have been using Maple V in our Amiga Classroom for nearly three years.
Indeed, Marvin Weinstein, the author of the above article, mentions us at
the beginning of that article. Maple V is a marvelous Computer Algebra
System with a powerful, yet easy to learn, programming language. Complete
information about Maple V (including pricing) is available from Janet
Cater    jecater@maplesoft.on.ca.

Herb


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From: eric@wolf359.uucp (Eric Edwards)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Fonts & Graphics across platforms
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 05:28:44 GMT
Reply-To: eric%wolf359@ustores.ustores.missouri.edu
Keywords: Word Processors, Postscript, PC, Mac, DTP, WordPerfect
Summary: Need to take fonts from Amiga to Mac/PC/NeXt and back.  
Organization: Engineers in Exile
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

I'm in a situation that, I'm sure, is familiar to many.

I have a document that needs to be nearly perfect AND updated
periodically.  A resume' rather comes to mind.

At home I have an Amiga but for rather obvious financial reasons, no high
dollar laser printer.

At work and at the University I have access to PC, Macs, and NeXt's that
DO have high dollar laser printers.  For differing reasons it is not
feasible to do the document on these machines.  A minor tweak here and
there, yes but if I need to make signifigant changes I need to take it
home.

Now, in the ideal world, Word Perfect delivered WP 5.1 for AmigaOS.  Then
I could simply do the main body on my Amiga, move the file over to the
PC/Mac/Next, tweak as needed for the local printer (They're ALL different)
and print.  Once done I take the file back to the Amiga for the next
round.

Unfortunately, this is the real world.  WP 5.1 does not exist for AmigaOS,
only 4.1.12 which is completely unsuitable for this kind of work.  Does
anyone know of a workable substitute?

Postscript will let me compose at home at print elsewhere but it is
essentially write-only.  I can not make changes on site.

TeX would work but the thought of having to learn TeX AND having to set it
up and two, possibly three, different systems, in a compatible manner has
little appeal to me.

Any suggestions are welcome.  I would not say price is no object but it is
not crucial either.  It just needs to be cheaper than buying a laser
printer for the Amiga.

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From: Lloyd_Sumpter@mindlink.bc.ca (Lloyd Sumpter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: PD C compiler
Date: 8 Oct 92 02:44:41 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

   There's PDC, in the Fish collection.

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From: agsteine@kirk.fmi.uni-passau.de (Karlheinz Agsteiner)
Subject: Menu Enhancer problems (MagicMenu, SiliMenu)
Organization: University of Passau, Germany
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:32:52 GMT

Hi, 

is anybody using the programs MagicMenu(s) or SiliMenu(s) without
any problems? They really look nice and would make menu selections 
much more easy, if they would worke properly. 

My problem: CygnusEd Prof. 2.12, and GadToolsBox 1.4 seem to get
the wrong messages from the menu programs. In fact, they often get
the previous/next (I don't recall this) entry in a menu (no, I'm
not clicking at the wrong points :) ). GadToolsBox, for example,
doesn't let me change the "Gadget Type" if I use SiliMenu as
popup menu, but there are no problems If i set the gadget type
via pull down menu. CygnusEd has the same weird behaviour, esp.
with Sub-Sub-Menus like "Send Dos/ARexx command". 

SiliMenu even doesn't let me change the Workbench window from
"No backdrop" <--> "backdrop".

Thanks in advance, 

Karlheinz.

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From: kehlet@kehlet.adsp.sub.org (Jesper Kehlet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications,comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Is there a successor to Power Windows ?
Date: 11 Oct 92 23:29:20 GMT
Organization: Compos Mentis Software Systems
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Oct8.214621.21136@trl.oz.au> aduncan@rhea.trl.OZ.AU (Allan Duncan) writes:
> Was there ever an upgrade to OS 2.0 level of this useful product, or an
> equivalent?  Anything to save going through the motions if there is an
> easier way :-)

You might want to take a look at GadToolsBox -- it's ftp'able...


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From: sacke@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeff Hanna)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Using SAY with TM2.0
Date: 13 Oct 92 01:08:46 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

I am in a quandry.  How do you manage to manipulate the speech synthesizer's
paramters with a SAY statement?  For a sound I have,

SAY -F20269 -p115 -v64 -s150 "Loading Term"

When I use it, the machine says everything, including the parameters.

How do I get SAY to recognize them as flags?

Thank you

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From: soh@tmp_ip_003.trl.OZ.AU (Soh Kam Hung)
Subject: Re: Problem with PasTeX and NFSS -- FIXED!
Keywords: pastex nfss
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:17:45 GMT

soh@tmp_ip_003.trl.OZ.AU (Soh Kam Hung) writes:

>I'm using PasTeX 1.3 (public domain version of TeX 3.14 for the Amiga)
>and I've built a new LaTeX format file for the New Font Selection
>Scheme (the filedate in readme.mz3 is 92/08/30).  When I try to process
>a complicated document, I get the following error.

>! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [pool size=2710].

> [ ... Description of the problem ... ]

I've received two replies to my query.  The solution was very simple:
Changes to the TeX configuration file had to be made before the first
occurence of a ``#'' at the beginning of a line.  In my configuration
file, this feature was documented in German and I didn't understand
it.

Many thanks to the following for helping me:

Bernd Raichle <raichle@azu.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>
jfieber@sophia.smith.edu (John Fieber)

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From: rghester@eos.ncsu.edu (Rodney Hester)
Subject: Re: upgrade 2.0 -> 2.05
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:55:56 GMT

In article <Bw0o0n.Mz@brunel.ac.uk> cs90rol@brunel.ac.uk (Richard O Lavey) writes:
>Why do you want to go from 2.0 to 2.05?? As I understand it (and please correct me if I'm wrong), 2.05 is the release for the A600, and the main difference from 2.04 is that it supports the PCMCIA slot on that machine.
>
>2.04 ROM's are V37.175, and WB 2.04 is V37.67

Kickstart 2.05 contains PCMCIA and IDE support, and is thus only useful to A600
owners.  Workbench 2.05 (37.71) contains a number of fixes to 2.04, including
a much newer SetPatch (that corrects problems with 'term' and a number of
other programs as well as several other things) and an updated FastFileSystem.
There are other changes as well, I just can't remember what they are off the
top of my head.

Workbench 2.05 can be copied freely (or for a small duplication fee) from your
local authorized Commodore dealer/service center.  If you're still running
2.04, GET IT - it will save you a number of headaches until 2.1 is available.
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From: jdickson@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Jeff Dickson)
Subject: A4000 contest
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Distribution: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:36:09 GMT

	One of the rules governing the "Win a A4000" contest is that your
entry becomes Commodore's property. What exactly is meant by "entry"? The
source code and executable or just the executable?

thanks

jeff



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From: stefanb@hathi.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Stefan Becker)
Subject: Re: Couple of ToolM 2.0 Q's
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date: 12 Oct 92 13:38:03 GMT

mneylon@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Michael Neylon) writes:

>The documentation is a little vague on these points, but it is other wise
>a great program (but it cant use MFR!! wah!)

You are probably using MFR 1.x. This doesn't support some ASL flags which
TM uses. Solution: Switch over to MFR 2.x

	Stefan

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