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From: lindae@netcom.com
Subject: If You Ever Think You've Spotted a Missing Child, Please Note...
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:07:31 GMT
Expires: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 08:00:00 GMT



A Message From  Child Quest International, a non-profit organization,
devoted to the protection and recovery of missing, abused, and exploited
children.  (408) 492-1122


What would you do if you thought you spotted a child that looked like
he/she had been abducted?  Or if you spotted a child that looked a lot
like the child on a "MISSING" poster you had seen?

Child Quest recommends that you pay close attention to some of the 
following items.  These are some of the identifiers that you should
make note of....

1.  How old does the child look to be?
2.  What sex is the child?
3.  What race is the child?
4.  What is the approximate height and weight of the child?
5.  What is the hair color of the child?
6.  What color are the eyes (if you can see them)  
7.  What is the length of the child's hair?
8.  Was the child wearing glasses?
9.  Describe the glasses and any other identifying characteristics...
10. Did you notice any scars or birthmarks?
11.  What is the exact location of the sighting?
12.  When did you see this child?  What date?  What time of day?
13.  Who was the child with?
14.  What was the approximate age of the person/people that were with
the child?
15.  What was the sex, race, height, weight of the person/people with the
child?
16.  What was the hair/eye color of the person/people with the child?
17.  What was the hair length of the person/people with the child?
18.  Was/were the person/people with the child wearing glasses?
19.  Were there any scars or birthmarks on the person/people with the
child?
20.  Did the person/people with the child have a beard or moustache?
21.  Did you notice a vehicle?
22.  If so, what was the vehicle make, color, and license plate #?
23.  What was the year of the vehicle?
24.  What state was the vehicle from?
25.  Describe the vehicle:  color, dents, decals, bumper stickers, 
number of doors, etc.
  


While many of these items may seem obvious, it is well know that in 
a panic situation, many of us may forget to pay attention to details. 
These details can be crucial in following up the lead that you provide.

Have any of you ever been in this circumstance?  Having spotted a
possible missing child?  If so, I'd like to hear about it in this
group.  Please share your stories!!

Keeping Hope Alive,
Linda E.
Child Quest Volunteer
lindae@netcom.com
From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: statistics
Date: 9 Oct 92 05:53:00 GMT

TD@9>Marv Cotton was heard babbling to Mike O'malley about statistics


TD@9> MC> Mike, according to The U.S. Dept. of Justice report based on a study
TD@9> MC> performed in 1988 the numbers are as follows;

TD@9> MC> 127,100 children who were THROWN away.

TD@9>Of all the things that you quoted,  This makes me want to PUKE!  There
TD@9>are a lot sorry excuses for life forms but these (IMHO) are the worst.
TD@9>I could rant for hours on these issues, but I'll just leave it at that.

TD@9>Laters,
TD@9>     Troy


TD@9>... Gold medalist, freestyle conclusion-jumping event.


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TD@9> * Origin: Gateway System to/from RBBS-NET (RBBS-PC 1:10/8)

  Troy, I remember the first time I saw those numbers and reacted the
  same way.
    Later, Marv

 * OLX 2.2 * Children Deserve To Be Free and Feel Safe
From: Bill.Rogge@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Bill Rogge)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: .gif's
Date: 2 Oct 92 07:00:00 GMT

RC*Can you set me up a private area to upload the gifs to your system.
 
What I have done is to add the original PASSWORD to the extraction on my
checking routine.  That way if you upload the file with the typical password,
I will extract the files correctly.  Then I can take care of the rest.
 
That should work.  Give it a try and let me know ANY messages that you get
that tell about errors during the checking process.
 
The major problem is that I do not have a means of setting up an area that
does not get processed by the file integrity batch file.
 
Just thought.  When you log on, notice that I give the same credit for MAILED
files as I do for actual UPLOADS.  That might be an alternative.
 
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From: Bruce.Edwards@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Bruce Edwards)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: 48 Hours
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:46:19 GMT

My question to the police and the media would have to be "Why the drug  raid
tactics?" Was there something to fear from the mother of the child?
 Why didnt they just cover all exits of the house and then knock on the  door?
It seems to me the tactics could have been alot more painless. But,  then I
guess I would be asking a bit too much from our government;  caring.
From: shedevil@vix.com (Anne P. Mitchell JD)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: Purpose this Area
Date: 12 Oct 1992 12:14:14 -0700
Organization: Knapp & Viola, Attys., San Mateo, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gw.home.vix.com


In a recent missive Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton) tells us:
*
*  A message has been posted on the USENET side encouraging people to
*voice complaints, flame, other users.  As one of the three people who
*began this Echo/Message area in September 1990 I feel that I need to
*discuss the purpose for this area.  First this area began on FIDO net
*after quite a bit of hard work and it migrated to other nets, including
*USENET.  Second this area was begun because of the abduction and murder
*of two young girls in August 1990.

I think it is important to clarify this:  What the Fido Board has done
is fabulous, and admirable, and needed.

There is, however, *no* connection between the Fido Board and this
Usenet group, other than the connection that happened when the folks
on the Fido side began gating all the Fido postings to
alt.missing-kids.

I can state this unequivocally, because I am the person who created
alt.missing-kids.  I created it after much discussion with Lance
Spangler.  Our purpose in creating it was to take advantage of the
incredible resource of the Internet for a worthy cause.  At no time
was this group, alt.missing-kids, created to be a channel for, let
alone extension of, the Fido Boards.  In fact, at the time I created
this group, I'd never even heard of FidoNet.

That being said, however, I was happy to see the link established, at
least until all of the personal messages from the Fido Board were also
being gated to alt.missing-kids.

Since that time we have tried hard to work a solution that would allow
for the gating of important informational postings from Fido to
alt.missing-kids, while still keeping out the non-information Fido
traffic.

Frankly, I am not sure what the problem is, as LindaE has been more
than willing to sort out the information posts and pass them on to
alt.missing-kids.  I can't imagine that the folks on the Fido side of
the system really feel it imperative that we on the Internet read all
of their personal messages.  I can only surmise that it is some sort
of power/control issue, which is really too bad.

Annie

-- 
   LOOKING FOR:  David Widdicombe, Hobson Woodward, Lorna Taylor & JJ Lancey
I am: Anne Mitchell, mom, & founder of the Fathers' Rights & Equality Exchange
Ask me about FREE!  FREE files available via anonymous ftp 128.45.1.1; dir /pub
          sex is a misdemeanor - the more I miss, the meaner I get.
From: Jinny.Husty@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Jinny Husty)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Echo Rules Pt 1
Date: 1 Oct 92 12:00:00 GMT

MC>  Jinny, we are up to CHILD32.ZIP now with 516 GIFs.  I will post found
MC>  children in a few messages.
 
Marv, I need to give you a call for more information.  We will NOT be
using a GIF viewer after all, but rather made the GIFs into self-running
files using the "Graphics Workshop".  Now I need some info from you to
create a flier or letter that will be distributed with the GIFs.  Do
you have a logo that you use that can be easily scanned?
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From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: 48 Hours #3
Date: 13 Oct 92 06:00:00 GMT

Following is Mr. Heywards reply.

Dear Mr. Cotton:

Thank you for your letter.  I am sorry to hear that you were
disappointed with our 'childs name' segment in Kidnapped.

The recovery scene was indeed painful to watch, but it was in no way
staged, sensationalized or manipulated for our cameras.  Our intention
was to convey the losses suffered on all sides of the 'childs name'
kidnapping story, and I believe we did so with sensitivity and accuracy.

I might add that the National Center For Missing & Exploited Children
was among the many sources we consulted in preparing this report.  As
you may recall, a visit to the center was included in the broadcast.

I appreciate your taking the time to write.  Your comments are important
to us.

Sincerely,

Andrew Heyward
Executive Producer.


  -------------
    NOTE:  I have been in touch with the National Center and they had
    requested that the segment Kidnapped not be shown because of its
    portrayal of the recovery.  The referance to the National Center was
    a different segment in the show.   I was not suggesting that the 48
    Hour people staged the recovery I do feel that some of the people
    connected with the segment, but not connected with CBS did try to
    dramatize this.
      I would appreciate comments on the show and these letters.

  Marvin Cotton
  Heidi Search Center

 * OLX 2.2 * Children Deserve To Be Free and Feel Safe
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
From: lindae@netcom.com
Subject: Parental Abduction - Don't Do It!
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:26:38 GMT
Expires: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 08:00:00 GMT


 
Reprinted from a "Find The Child" Directory, 1989:
Find The Child is a non-profit organization acting as
a resource for parents, children and other organizations
in the prevention of child abduction and recovery of
missing children.  The Group was founded in 1983.

PARENTAL ABDUCTION:

In the past, the mention of parental abduction brought forth a
multitude of responses, none of which matched the severity of the
problem nor it's traumatic effect on children.  There was 
attitudinally an implied shrug - it was a domestic matter better 
left   to families to sort out themselves.  And after all,
"the child is with a parent."  Generally the feeling was that 
parental abduction was not all that serious.

The facts are otherwise.  The trauma a child experiences during a 
parental abduction is severe.  Often they are taken away from
everyone they know and love, sometimes forced to live a life
on the run, from city to city and state to state.  And in some cases,
their names are changed, their hair is dyed and they are told that
their other parent is either dead or doesn't want them anymore.
These children are emotionally and often physically abused by a person
they've put their trust in.  Psychologists and social workers tell
us that victims of parental abduction may grow up with
serious emotional and developmental disabilities that will create
not only a damaged child but a dysfunctional adult.

Parental Abduction -  Don't do it!
    It's a heartache.
    It's a shame.
    It's a CRIME.
	   ^^^^^


lindae@netcom.com
From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Found Children
Date: 1 Oct 92 03:54:21 GMT

I am happy to announce that I have been informed by
The Texas Department of Public Safety Missing Persons Clearinghouse

 that the following children have been located and are well.

   Paul Sanchez               364.GIF  CHILD16.ZIP
   Caroline Taromino          392.GIF  CHILD18.ZIP
   Monique Goodson            438.GIF  CHILD22.ZIP


 Marv Cotton
 Heidi Search Center
 2402 Pat Booker Rd.
 Universal City, TX  78148
From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Found Children Listing
Date: 9 Oct 92 05:40:00 GMT

NP>****** From: MARV COTTON ***************** On:
9/22/1992********************
NP>*
NP>*MC>   Since we have been distributing the GIFs the following children have
NP>*MC> been
NP>****************************************************************************
NP>   How can I go about getting these GIF's to place on my BBS?  My bbs is
NP>   fairly new to this conference and I think this would be a great
NP>   addition.
NP>   Thanks
NP>   Nancy
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  Nancy, since you are in RIME get with Russell Coombs, he can get them
  to you.
    Later, Marv

 * OLX 2.2 * Children Deserve To Be Free and Feel Safe
From: Greg.Naber@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Greg Naber)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Prevention
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:00:56 GMT

Child Safety.

Helpful Rules to Keep Young People Safe.

Most parents want to educate their children about sexual abuse, but they
don't know how. These guidelines will help parents teach their children
how to keep safe. Remember, you can't tell a child too much. Knowledge
doesn't stimulate inappropriate behavior-ignorance does. Parents who
talk openly with their children will be "askable" parents, and children
will feel free to bring their worries and concerns to them in the
future.

10 STEPS TO SAFETY:

1.  An unattended child is a child at risk. Arrange with your child an
    alternative place to wait if you are delayed, especially in the darker
    winter evenings. Suggest a well-lit store or inside an arena or school.

2.  Have children walk in pairs or groups.

3.  Children should always travel the same way home.

4.  Don't allow your young child to go to a public washroom unattended.

5.  Check your babysitters' credentials thoroughly. In your absense,
    they are guardians of a priceless treasure.

6.  Tell your child it is not rude to ignore an adult who is asking
    directions on the street. Another adult could be asked for more
    accurate directions.

7. Tackle the subject of sexual abuse prevention with the same honest
   matter-of-fact manner you would attach to road safety. Remember, the
   only time a child will ask you about sexual abuse is after it has
   happened. Open the subject and your child will remember that you are
   askable.

8. Discuss with your child the difference between fact and fiction so
   that they may understand the nature of taking an oath. (This may be
   necessary for a court apperance.)

9. If you do suspect that an abuse has taken place:

    * DO encourage the child to talk about it.
    * DO establish in the child's mind that he/she is not to blame.
    * DO NOT correct the child's story; listen to the original words,
          even those which are babyish or family words.
    * DO NOT suggest or modify what the child is trying to say. Your
          ideas might confuse the truth.
    * DO NOT SHOW horror or anger; however if caught by surprise and
           unable to control your emotions, be clear that your anger is
           meant for the offender, NOT the child!

10 . When you are aware of an incident of sexual abuse, call the police
     or the child welfare authorities immediately. Ensure that a social
     worker, a police officer and someone supportive to the child is
     present when the evidence is given.

     Wise children should know:

     * Their own address & telephone number.
     * Where to go in an emergency.
     * Never talk to strangers.
     * Never to get into a strangers car.
     * Never accept candy and gifts from strangers.
     * Always play in safe places.
From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: List of Found Children
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:53:22 GMT


  Russ Coombs and I have been working with the National Center For
  Missing and Exploited Children to distribute GIFs of Missing children
 since November 1990.  I am part of an organization in Universal City,
 Texas called the
 Heidi Search Center which was founded following the abduction and
murder
 of an 11 year old girl in San Antonio, TX in Aug. 1990.

   Since we have been distributing the GIFs the following children have
  been found.  These findings cannot be attributed to the GIFs anymore
  then they can to pictures on milk cartons.  The important thing is
  that caring people such as yourselves are working to end this problem.

   The children that have been found are;

      1.GIF     Amy Michelle Agresto   CHILD1.ZIP
      8.GIF     Frank Joseph Agresto   CHILD1.ZIP
     11.GIF     Jennifer Anne Kubus    CHILD1.ZIP
     15.GIF     Natasha Borres         CHILD1.ZIP
     27.GIF     Karen Campbell         CHILD2.ZIP
     57.GIF     Julie Lynn Main        CHILD3.ZIP
     64.GIF     Dylan Avery Winburn    CHILD4A.ZIP
     65.GIF     Morgan L. Winburn      CHILD4A.ZIP
     66.GIF     Kathina Colleen Koenig CHILD4A.ZIP
     67.GIF     Jason Robert Hunt      CHILD4A.ZIP
     73.GIF     Tyler Winslow Inman    CHILD4A.ZIP
    114.GIF     Melissa Ann Bryant     CHILD4.ZIP
    117.GIF     Terry Michael Matchett CHILD4.ZIP
    121.GIF     Mark Richard Giesecke  CHILD4.ZIP
    127R.GIF     Paula M. Palancia     CHILD5.ZIP
    128R.GIF     Joseph B. Palancia    CHILD5.ZIP
    129R.GIF     Dallas Lee Sutherland CHILD5.ZIP
    135R.GIF    Thor Durning           CHILD5.ZIP
    136R.GIF    Kirk Durning           CHILD5.ZIP
    141R.GIF    Jason James Dean McQuaker (D)  CHILD5.ZIP
    164.GIF     Jennifer King          CHILD6.ZIP
    201.GIF     Amanda Otter           CHILD8.ZIP
    231.GIF     Aimee Veronica Harrison CHILD10.ZIP
    240.GIF     Heather Schell         CHILD10.ZIP
    262.GIF     Theresa A. Mills       CHILD11.ZIP
    350.GIF     Patrick Gieser         CHILD15.ZIP
    370.GIF     Stephanie Anquiano     CHILD16.ZIP
    378.GIF     Dubenion Joseph Moss   CHILD17.ZIP
    419.GIF     Adam Gregory Galindo   CHILD20.ZIP
    444.GIF     Jessica Fretti         CHILD23.ZIP
    454.GIF     Crystal Hubbard        CHILD24.ZIP
    461.GIF     Shawnlee Matilda Perry (D) CHILD25.ZIP
    471.GIF     Kathy Jo Heydon        CHILD26.ZIP

   Russ and I would like to thank everyone for participating and
helping.

   Marv Cotton and Russ Coombs, Moderators

   Heidi Search Center
   2402 Pat Booker Rd.
   Universal City, TX
From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: In Response
Date: 2 Oct 92 10:54:00 GMT

LH> * Originally By: Larry Hyman
LH> * Originally To: :-57:000joan M. Diamond
LH> * Originally Re: Re: in response
LH> * Original Area: MISSING CHIL
LH> * Forwarded by : Blue Wave v2.10

LH> -=> Quoting Joan M. Diamond to All <=-

LH> JMD> On April 6, 1987, Nicholas was beaten to death by his sitter's
husband

LH>I give you my deepest sympathy....

LH> >
LH> >weigh that suspicion *very* carefully.
LH> JMD>
LH> JMD> Yes, but don't be immobilized trying to be too careful.
LH> JMD>
LH> JMD> I'm not advocating turning everyone in, any more than Linda is.  But
LH> JMD> if you have a strong feeling something is wrong, you should listen to
LH> JMD> it.  I still lean in favor of being unfair, if the alternative is
LH> JMD> another Nicholas.
LH> JMD> A child can be killed in seconds, literally seconds.  I know.
LH> JMD>
LH> JMD> Joan
LH> JMD>
LH> JMD> -!-
LH> JMD> # Origin: Future Quest Usenet <=> Fido Gateway 512-451-0891
LH> JMD> (1:19/23.0)  ! Origin: FamilyNet Intl. Echogate [708] 887-7685
LH> JMD> (1:115/887)


LH>What are we supposed to do... ?  Drop into these home day care centres with
LH>out warning, do an inspection and then force the Keepers to take lie
detecto
LH>tests ???

LH>I know this is illegal, but what the crazies do is illegal too....

LH>There is no such thing as justice in this law and order society....

LH>Larry Hyman

LH>... Offline 135 ... is offline, the Wave killed it!
LH>-!- Blue Wave/QWK v2.10
LH>*** Blue Wave/QWK v2.10

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LH>SEEN-BY: 19/99 116/18 141/340 170/400 900 209/209 382/1 387/255 406
LH>SEEN-BY: 387/603 622 800 823 3804/7 3805/7 3817/2


  Larry, check your feed.  We are getting dupes from you.
    Marv Cotton, Co-moderator

 * OLX 2.2 * Children Deserve To Be Free and Feel Safe
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
From: lindae@netcom.com
Subject: A Note from Linda Regarding "FidoNet" Postings
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:53:26 GMT



As many of you know, I have been posting frequent information to this
newsgroup regarding missing, abused, and exploited children.  Prior
to my joining alt.missing-kids, this group was primarily filled with
postings from "Fidonet".  Many of these postings were irrelevant to
the newsgroup and I felt that those messages would turn people away
from reading this group.  I put in a request to Fidonet that they 
stop this practice and for a while they sent all of their messages
to my e-mail address, so that I could post the items that were
appropriate.

Well, I'm sorry to say that Fidonet is once again posting directly
to this group.  Although much of their information is EXCELLENT, you
will also find a lot of postings that are completely irrelevant and
even undecipherable to the Usenet audience.  

That's because the Fidonet users tend to use their system for 
sending personal e-mail.  So, you will see a lot of postings in this
group that say things like, "Hi, got your message and I'll call you
later...", etc.

I also noticed some obscene postings that came from Fidonet the other
day.

My goal has been to keep alt.missing-kids dedicated to PERTINENT,
and RELEVANT information.  I'm not sure how we will do this now.

Don't get me wrong.  Marv Cotton and Russ Coombs, moderators of
Fidonet's alt.missing-kids, have great intentions and do put out
a lot of VERY GOOD INFORMATION.  I encourage you to read it.  Just
be aware that there is going to be lots of irrelevant stuff too.

If you see anything in this newsgroup that you feel doesn't belong
here, I would encourage you to send a note to the Poster, expressing
your feelings.  Perhaps that will get the message across.

Thanks for your continued support of alt.missing-kids
Linda
lindae@netcom.com
From: Dan.Ross@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Dan Ross)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: april
Date: 3 Oct 92 20:26:01 GMT

April Ann Cooper
Non-Family Abduction

Date Missing:  12/13/86                 Missing From:  Rancho, California

Date of Birth:  5/13/79                 Age at Disappearance:  7 years old

Sex:  Female                            Race:  White

Height:  4 ft. 6 in.                    Weight:  60 lbs

Hair:  Blonde                           Eyes:  Blue

Identifying Information:  Missing upper front teeth.  Child last seen wearing 
white leotards, lavender dress, white sweater and white leather dress shoes.

Circumstances:  Child last seen at the Woodchuck Campground in 
Rancho, California near her home.

Anyone having information should contact
The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children
1-800-843-5678