From: mst4298@zeus.tamu.edu (Mitchell S Todd)
Subject: Re: Teen Agent, Can you Hear Me? Teen Agent, Can You See Me? (was: Clay Shaw is Clay Bertrand, Oswald *was* a Teen Agent
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 02:48:00 GMT

david@cats.ucsc.edu (David Wright) writes...
>In article <13AUG199212033646@summa.tamu.edu> mst4298@summa.tamu.edu (Mitchell S Todd) writes:
>|In article <schuck.713688893@sfu.ca|, Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca writes...
>||Mitchell S Todd |

>|||||Oswald was only 20 when he went to the USSR, supposedly as a "CIA
>|||||operative." That means that his alleged training must have taken

>||||So. They train teenagers to fly fighter planes.

>|||	Since when? Last I checked, you have to be a college grad
>|||	to fly one.

>||Did you check 1959/1960?

>|	The last time non-college grads were admitted to flight training
>|	was 1954. I know because my father was one of the last non-college
>|	cadets to get into flight school (and he was over twenty a the
>|	time as well).

>Just what is it you guys are arguing about anyway?

	Ask Bruce. He brought it up.


>Oswald was being trained for
>deadly and important missions since his days when he flew with Ferrie.


	When did Oswald ever "fly with Ferrie"? Ferrie may have been
	involved in the same CAP outfit as Oswald; however, Oswald
	seemed little interested in the organization and soon quit,
	and there is really no evidence that the two ever met. 
	

>This is obviously ideal from the CIA's point of view. They get a young
>recruit, do a few odd and ends, nothing to dangerous, and then can have some
>deap cover. I don't see anything absurd about this at all. It is not as
>though the CIA went actively looking, but if someone like Oswald joins the
>Civil Air Patrol at an early age, they might want to keep him for some purpose.

	I should let this statement stand on its own as an example of
	conspiracy-think. But I'm not, of course.

	The whole idea that the CIA would recruit, or even be interested
	in, a young derelict whose affiliation with the cover
	organization was short and shallow is at the far edge of
	believability. Also, David seems to assume that the CAP was
	automatically some CIA front, along with all its members),
	something that I've seen little or no real basis for.



>After all, the Soviets say they knew Oswald was an agent anyway, and they
>didn't kill him or put his life in danger.

	The Soviets claim only that they suspected that he was a spy
	not that they "knew" in the way of being able to prove it.
	The Soviet Union, and Czarist Russia before it, was known
	for, among other things, an acute case of xenophobia. Even
	Peter the Great, who endeavored to import Western knowledge
	into Russia, kept the European experts segregated away from 
	the general populace. The Soviets were no less xenophobic;
	after the end of WWII, many non-German foreigners in the
	occupied lands, including many Americans and the Sweedish hero
	Raul Wallenberg, never to be heard from again. The KGB would
	have suspected Oswald of being a spy from the start. Such
	was the Soviet way.


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