HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: feoh@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Chris Patti)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: SPEED comparisons of ET4000 cards.
Date: 28 Sep 92 05:56:53 GMT
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science


	Hello, 

	I have decided that going with anything else would be foolish and will
be buying a 486DX50 system within the next week that will have an ET4000 based
video card in it.

	I will be using the card to design/play animations of various types 
under Linux (and possibly Dos/windows if the apps don't exist for Linux) and
I only need to know one last thing..  What's the fastest ET4000 based card on
the market priced at ~$200? Are there any appreciable speed differences between
the ET4000 based Genoa, Boca, Tseng and other cards?

	On a more Linux/X related note, does anyone have any idea whether or
not the bugs that were initially reported with the Linux 8514 XV2.0 server have
been fixed? 

	I would consider buying an ATI Ultra as I think performance is better 
due to the built in Blitter, etc, however relatively flawless Xwindows 
operation is my main goal (aside from the animation I mentioned above) so 
unless 8514 support has been integrated into the server or at least stabilized 
I'll stick with an ET4000.

Thanks in advance and Please excuse if this is slightly off topic,
	Sincerely,
		Chris Patti
		feoh@gnu.ai.mit.edu

P.S. I'll be releasing all the responses I have received from SVGA card owners
RSN as an FAQ. I'd be extremely pleased if it could be made into an ongoing
effort to help provide new users with up to date information..
From: talley@ashleigh.Kodak.COM (Brian K. Talley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: BYTE asks, is UNIX dead?
Keywords: UNIX
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:28:59 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.linux
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY

In article <bibhas.717685421@femto.engr.mun.ca> bibhas@pico.engr.mun.ca (Bibhas Bhattacharya) writes:
>This months BYTE screams out asking "Is UNIX dead?".

This bothered me a lot.

>                                                     A closer scrutiny
>of the article proved it's just the otherwise.

Interesting. I didn't buy Byte this month, partly because of the crap on
the cover.  As such, I wasn't aware of the contents of the article.

>                                               Are these people trying
>to form a public opinion by some kind of a cheap sneaky media proaganda
>or are these people smart as anybody else?

Propaganda?  Hell, yes!  Look at IBM!  Look at Microsoft!  They didn't get
where they are by creating great software and selling it cheap! Of course,
there's often a fine line between "Quality Marketing" and propaganda. :}

And yes, these folks are smart, in their own weird, twisted way.

>                                           Are they completely bought
>out or just being responsible journalists to guide the common people towards
>more productive computing.

Well, when I look back at my old (*really* old) issues of Byte, I can see
how much it's changed.  It's slanted towards the IBM realm, and touches on
the Mac realm sometimes.  On occasion, they'll feature an article on a non-
IBM system, but that's pretty infrequent.

Let's put it this way: when I saw the cover of Byte, I mumbled to myself
"...of course it's not dead, you f*ckhead...".  My assumption was that many
a brain-dead executive would read that and think "Hmmm...once NT comes out,
that'll mean the end of Unix!"

Hell, any organization that would voluntarily publish the findings of Jerry
Pournelle...[countless expletives and uncomplimentary text deleted].

>           As always perhaps, money rules.
>Bibhas.

Unfortunate, but true all too often.

Just my opinions, folks.

--Brian
From: fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux 0.98 and X11v2.0 and TCP/IP....
Date: 1 Oct 92 03:51:28 GMT
	<1992Sep30.203444.27183@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University


>>>>> "David" == David Giller (rafetmad@cheshire.oxy.edu)

David> To make a long story short, I've got several 486's available
David> here with ET4000 displays and ethernet.  Is it currently
David> possible to put together a working X server that can work with
David> clients that are running remote over inet?

Now, why didn't I think of that? PC's with Linux could make fine cheap
X terminals, with the possibility of running local client to boot.
Neat.

/Lars
--
Lars Fischer, fischer@iesd.auc.dk | It takes an uncommon mind to think of
CS Dept., Aalborg Univ., DENMARK. | these things.  -- Calvin
From: rcskb@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Kendall Bennett)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: BYTE asks, is UNIX dead?
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:11:47 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
Keywords: UNIX

talley@ashleigh.Kodak.COM (Brian K. Talley) writes:

>Fortunately with Unix, AT&T, DEC, SMI, SGI, HP, etc., aren't going to let some
                                        ^^^
You may be interested to know that Windows NT is also targeted to running
on the new Iris range of graphics workstations (like the Crimson). Not
only that, but Windows NT 2.0 will include support for the new SGI Open GL
3D graphics library standard (even though this will be introduced in 2.0,
work in underway right now on this project jointly between MS and SGI as
best I can remember).

I am not particularly fond of MS, but it seems to me that they have the
world by the balls when it comes to marketing and moving into new
areas (I wish IBM would get off their butts with OS/2 2.0 :-( )...

+------------------------------------------+-------------------------------+
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| CITRI Building, 723 Swanston Street      | rcskb@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au    |
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From: jackson@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Bruce Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux asks, is BYTE dead?
Keywords: UNIX
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:10:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: mercury.1992Sep29.221059.22697
Organization: University of North Texas, Denton

In article <1992Sep29.193108.12410@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard) writes:

>Either BYTE has sold out or is to brain dead to use the internet. Fortunitly
>as the net grows BYTE will regret not keeping up with whats really going on
>in the world.

Over the last 10 years BYTE has evolved from a magazine for enthusiasts
to a magazine that mainly publishes reviews of pc's and pc applications.
They may have an occasional article of interest but it is rare.

BYTE will make a very decent living publishing articles about the new
clone of the month and the latest version of WordPerfect and Lotus 123.

Expecting anything visionary out of a magazine that is just a poor
buyers guide is silly.

Just relax, who cares what BYTE thinks?

Bruce  -  jackson@cs.unt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Kernel Panic
Date: 6 Oct 92 09:24:42 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <1992Oct6.055750.8976@athena.mit.edu> chchen@stat.fsu.edu writes:
>After I installed 4 256k SIMMs to make my system 5 mb RAM, I've been
>having kernel panic problems, especially after I stopped using the
>modem. The message was:
>
>ldt[0]: 00000000 00000000
>ldt[1]: 0000ffff 00cbfb00
>ldt[2]: 0000ffff 00cbf300
>Kernel Panic: We don't support seperate I&D
>
>Any clue? I don't know what it means.

This should definitely never happen - linux doesn't support separate
I&D, and never creates a process that tries to use it.  I put in the
sanity-check just because I'm paranoid, and it seems to have paid off
(and besides, everyone *is* out to get me). 

So the only reason I can come up with for this particular error message
is that your RAM chips are too slow or have some other problems (bad
connections, whatever) resulting in memory corruption.  Alternatively,
the kernel might be overwriting some of it's own data, but as the only
change seems to have been your RAM-upgrade, faulty RAM does seem to be
the likely solution.  Try re-seating the SIMMS, or just remove them. 

		Linus
From: eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil (Eric Youngdale)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: SCSI tape drive for 349$
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:02:38 GMT
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory


	I saw the following posted in comp.unix.bsd.  I may get one of these
beasties and work on the scsi tape code so that I can use it under linux (if
someone else has not beaten me to it :-).

-Eric

From: paoletti@cps.msu.edu (David R. Paoletti)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Wangtek 5150ES's for $349
Date: 30 Sep 92 05:43:24 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University
Originator: paoletti@pacific.cps.msu.edu


NOTE: I am NOT selling these tape drives.  I am simply a satisfied
      customer helping out fellow 386BSDers.  I have no affiliation
      (other than happy customer) with the person selling these,
      nor am I being recompensed in any way for my recommendation.

The following ad was posted to misc.forsale.computers, and I've
purchased one.  I am very satisfied with the drive (except maybe
the black faceplate ;), and the person selling them was very prompt,
courteous, and helpful when I had a slight problem (cause == me).
The best mail order price that I've seen was about $650.  This tape
drive will work fine with 386BSD with no modifications to the kernel
(as long as you have an Adaptec 1542B).  I can't make any comment
about the new 386BSD SCSI modules, as I haven't tried them.

David Paoletti :)
AI/KBS Lab Manager
--
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers
From: asg@unixland.natick.ma.us (asg@unixland.natick.ma.us)
Subject: Wangtek 5150ES 250Mb SCSI Tape Drive
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 15:13:22 GMT

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SPECIFICATIONS:

Formatted Capacity:        250Mb (500Mb w/ data compression)

Data Cartridge Type:       DC6250, DC6150

Recording Formats:         QIC-150 (DC6250/250Mb, DC6150/150Mb)
                           QIC-120 (DC600A/120Mb)

Read Compatibility:        QIC-150, QIC-120, QIC-24

Transfer Rate:
    Asynchronous           1.8Mb/sec
    Sustained              112.5Kb/sec (6.75Mb/min)

Quick File Access (QFA):   supported, reducing seek-to-data and append time
                           to under 2 minutes.

Condition:                 brand new, packaged for OEMs (read: bare drive),
                           a jumpers information sheet is enclosed

Warranty:                  1-year manufacturer's warranty/30-day replacement

Price:                     $349.00

Terms:                     prepaid/C.O.D.(cash, M.O. or certified check)

Shipping:
    Continental USA
        UPS Ground         $4
        UPS Blue           $8
    Canada
        UPS Ground         $9

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Alex    asg@unixland.natick.ma.us    508-263-6504 (8-11pm, EST)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------



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Eric Youngdale
eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: sl319001@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Mike Shorten)
Subject: Linux installed, now what?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:43:11 GMT


Well, I orginally installed Linux on my home PC to get an idea of what
Unix was like. I've been following this newsgroup for about a week, and
it seems like Linux is more for people who want to program Unix. I guess
that I'm such a new Newbie at Unix that I really have no idea where to
go. I've tried using some programs available on tsx, the version of
pcomm that was there didn't work with the SLS 0.96 Linux. I've tried
some of the games, gnuchess looks for libs 2.2 and I don't think those
came with SLS 0.96.
 
I guess my main question is... where's the apps? What can I do know?
Where do I go to find out what I can do? I'm not planning on programming
much until I get a bigger HD and can install the full version. But I
would like to do a little more than what I'm doing now.

I know this probably will bring much laughter, but I'm pretty much lost
and saying "OK, what do I do now?". Please address flames to null@null.

Thanx! :)


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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: int177c@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Jae J Won)
Subject: Re: gcc weirdness
Organization: Monash University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 03:23:25 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.025924.2244@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> int177c@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Jae J Won) writes:
>Hi,
>
>	While working with gcc2.2.2d with jump table, I found a weirdness I really
>couldn't pinpoint. Okay, what happens is that, when I run this code below
>(okay, stop laughing at the code. The fact that code doesn't work properly 
>is not the question..:) , it somehow falls into an infinite loop. I have taken
>	Okay, here is the code and my setup is kernel 0.97pl4(it has been running so

[whole lotta stuff about bugs(no bugs) deleted]

>well that I saw no need to upgrade), X 2.0(could it be this??) and I got a 
>386 with no copro.
>
>Thanks to those who are willing to help...:)
>
Okay, don't worry, I found what I did wrong. I didn't declare the array corre

ctly...sorry..:)
here comes the excuse: I was mislead into thinking it wasn't my fault because
the gcc at uni worked really quite fine...

Jae

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: sthomas@worldbank.org (Sidney F. Thomas)
Subject: Is there a linux groff device driver for HP Laserjet II Printer?
Organization: The World Bank, Washington, DC, USA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:56:20 GMT

The subject line says it all.  Just got started with linux,
am exploring groff, want to print to an EPSON Action Laser II
printer which emulates the HP II printer.  Is there a driver
that would do the trick?

I'm surprised that this does not appear to be a FAQ!

--Sidney Thomas
sthomas@nimbus@worldbank.org
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: beppe@sabrina.dei.unipd.it (Giuseppe Zanetti)
Subject: Videorecorder interface ? (Re: Gnu hardware)
Organization: D.E.I. Universita' di Padova, Italia
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:26:15 GMT

In article <rcskb.717656170@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU> rcskb@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Kendall Bennett) writes:
>dmiller@beta.tricity.wsu.edu (David L. Miller) writes:

I read a article on a interface to make backups with a videorecorder ...

This seems a good idea ... volunteers ? :-)

Giuseppe

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From: eddy@aludra.usc.edu (George Edmond Eddy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux asks, is BYTE dead?
Date: 1 Oct 1992 13:30:04 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

ketil@linerle.ii.uib.no (Ketil M. Malde) writes:

>So can you recommend another magazine that covers more *interesting*
>(technical, hardware/software etc you know what I mean) subjects?

out of all the mags DDJ seems to be ok, especially with the 386bsd 
articles but is still heavely microsoft oriented which i could do 
without.  the unix oriented mags seem to just be unix versions of
byte.  a unix mag (unix review?) had an article on unix variants,
had a real meager mention of 386bsd, no mention of linux or gnu's
hurd, mach was mentioned in relation to osf/1...  oh well... i rarely
read the things, i get too frustrated.  I enjoy reading acm and ieee
stuff...

it would really be cool to have a hacker magazine.  but that would have 
to be done by "for the love it" hacker journalists and publishers,
after all, who would advertise, to generate revenues', to ... 8^/.

at least we have the net, the voice of the (non-market hypnotized)
people!

>--
> = Ketil Malde                     In real life:  ketil@ii.uib.no =
> = Nuke the whales!                    Honk if you love unicorns! =

- rusty

eddy@usc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: steves@flashy.tay2.dec.com (Stephen J. Stuczynski)
Subject: Help!!! Can't get X11 to work.....
Reply-To: steves@flashy.tay2.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp, Littleton MA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 15:25:25 GMT



I installed MCC's LINUX V0.97p2 on a 486dx/33mhz with 8meg, a microsoft/style
mouse, and an ULTRA Image/ET4000 graphics card. I also installed all the
tarfiles for X11 from ftp site tsx-11.mit.edu in  /packages/X11/x11v1.1 .
	I followed the installation guides and when I issue the command
xmkmf in /usr/bin/X11 it returns this on the screen

imake -DuseInstalled -I/usr/lib/X11
#

	and a core file gets in /usr/bin/X11 .

If I type startx, I get a coredump. 

	Any Ideas would be greatly appreciated.

	Thanks in advance,
			Steve
From: pdp@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (Paul Douglas Page)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: talk programs
Date: 6 Oct 92 12:32:02 GMT
Organization: University of Melbourne

Hi there,
I am still looking around for a talk program that is know to work with linux.

Any suggestions ?


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jes@grendel.demon.co.uk (Jim Segrave)
ReplyTo: jes@grendel.demon.co.uk
Subject: passwords and 4.1 bin utilities
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: cppnews $Revision: 1.17 $
Organization: None
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 03:29:51 +0000

I just installed the bin4.tar and binutils.TZ files along with
the rest of the 4.1 jump table gcc files from tsx-11. My system
was an mcc 97 patch 2 release upgraded to patch level 6. With the
new utilites, I've noticed one small problem. su now no longer asks
for the root password, it simply makes you root. I tried various
things with chmod to try to cure this, but all I could do was either
make su fail with a message about not being able to change groups, or
have it promicuously make anyone who runs it root.
Have I screwed up the permissions in some odd way, or is this a bug in
su?

--
Jim Segrave (Segrave Software Services)     jes@grendel.demon.co.ukg
From: hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Do we have an ``index'' function?
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:46:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Oct5.174630.7372
Organization: School of EECS, Washington State University

In article <lcs49sINN29l@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM>, lm@slovax.Eng.Sun.COM (Larry McVoy) writes:
|> : I'm trying to compile a program that uses the function ``index,'' but
|> : on compiliation the symbol _index is unknown.  Does Linux have a 
|> : substitute?
|> 
|> Here are some standard BSD -> SysV mappings.  Maybe someobody wants to take 
|> these and start a bsd.h?  I'm sure there are many more.
|> 
|> 	#define	index	strchr
|> 	#define	rindex	strrchr
|> 	#define	bzero(b, l)	memset(s, 0, l)
|> 	#define	bcopy(s, d, l)	memcpy(d, s, l)
|> ---
|> Larry McVoy			(415) 336-7627			 lm@sun.com

I have to say this. Please take a look at string.h. Linux has everything bsd 
has and much more. BTW, if there is a bsd function which can be implemented
under Linux without kernel modifications, the chances are it is in the Linux
C library.

-------FAQ--------
QUESTION: How do I compile programs under Linux?

ANSWER: The Linux C library is trying to be ANSI/POSIX compliant. It
is also very compatible with SYSV and BSD. The C library is loaded
with SYSV and BSD functions. There are three exceptions:

1. signal in Linux is POSIX.
2. tty in Linux is POSIX.
3. time functions are POSIX, plus a few BSD and SYSV extensions.
4. setjmp/longjmp functions are POSIX. But you can use -D__FAVOR_BSD
   to make it BSD or use sigsigjmp/siglongjmp.

When you compile a program under Linux, your best bet is include all
the appropriate header files and use -Wall. All the usable functions
and global variables are declared in the corresponding header files.
YOU SHOULD NOT DEFINE ANY functions or global variables OF THE LINUX C
LIBRARY IN YOUR CODE IF YOU WANT TO USE THE SHARED LIBRARIES.

After saying all those, you now should know you can compile a program
with -D_POSIX_SOURCE or -D_GNU_SOURCE (read <features.h> for details).
With a few modifications you can even use -DSYSV, -DUSG or -DBSD. Some
codes need to define -DSTDC_HEADERS for ANSI C compiler like gcc here.

To use malloc () and calloc () safely under Linux, please include

<stdlib.h> and don't define NO_FIX_MALLOC.

BTW, gcc -traditional should work with gcc 2.2.2d or above.

Please also read ChangeLog for the latest enhencement.

Please read the header files for details. Maybe you should get a book
on POSIX. Any suggestion of the book list?

From Steve Robbins  --  steve@nyongwa.cam.org

--------
I like "POSIX Programmer's Guide", by Donald Lewine.  Its essentially
a list of POSIX functions' man pages, with a very brief guide in the
beginning of a few things.  It's published by O'Reilly & Associates,
Inc.
--------
From: hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: really odd disk problem..
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:10:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Sep29.201040.8725
Organization: School of EECS, Washington State University

In article <92273.144940CXF111@psuvm.psu.edu>, Charles Fee <CXF111@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
|> Over the weekend, I upgraded my meager 386sx-16 to an AMD 386/40 with 8 megs
|> of ram, all seemingly went well, until I try to install Lilo..
|> 
|> According to fdisk, my drive is
|> 
|> 832 sectors x 6 cylinders x 33 sectors = approx 80 megs
|> 
|> I know for a fact that the drive is 124 megs (Maxtor 7120a)
|> 
|> According to the installation, in order to get the disk to work with dos, it
|> suggested a user definable drive of:
|> 
|> 936 X 16 cyclinders X 17 sectors = 124 megs
|> 
|> All works fine, no matter what happens..  I've compiled 0.97pl6 from this
|> drive, along with lilo, tin, and minicom (today..) when I try to install
|> lilo, it appears to work, but rebooting does nothing, and I am forced to
|> boot off floppy..
|> 
|> 

In LILO, you can overwrite disk geometry. Just put it in /etc/lilo/disktab.


H.J.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: barbour@ug.cs.dal.ca (phillip p.e. barbour)
Subject: Linux Beginer
Summary: linux beginer
Keywords: linux Beginer
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:17:51 GMT


	These maybe stupid questions but here goes. What do you need to set up 
linux ( I want to do it myself, not have someone else do it for me), and 
second what type system does it require??



	barbour@ug.cs.dal.ca
	01TED@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: oyang@cs.monash.edu.au (Kai Shing O'Yang)
Subject: System too big (>327680) problem in soundcard patches.
Organization: Computer Science, Monash University, Australia
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 04:48:44 GMT

Greetings,

	I've got 0.97 pl6 + CDROM and i recently added the soundcard
support and tried to build the kernel. the compiled tools/system got bigger 
than 327680 bytes and build didn't like it. Can I just comment out that line
that checks for 327680 bytes or there is something more I should do?

Thanks for your help.
Kai
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux