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From: alto@pegasus.com (Andrea Ostensoe)
Subject: Re: relocation angst
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 07:55:50 GMT

In article <59967@mimsy.umd.edu> kimy@cs.umd.edu (Yong-Mi Kim) writes:
>
>
>I moved here about three weeks ago.  Classes haven't started yet.
>I don't know anybody here.  Driving around here terrifies me (it
>would terrify you, too, if you had to pay what I have to pay for
>insurance around here).
>
>I think a suburban campus combines the worst characteristics of
>urban and rural campuses: located in the middle of nowhere with
>nothing to do, impossible traffic, high prices and high rents.
>
>I really miss Chapel Hill.  sniff.
>
>
>yong-mi
>thought she'd blown a tire driving in downtown DC

I used to drive in D.C.  yes it was terrifying and I was always
getting lost..one memorable time I got stuck in the middle of a
intersection in a very "famous" part of town..White House..Smithsonian
and all that..I was so embarressed..I was blocking the intersection..
didn't know what to do..could move forward or back..and all these
creeps were honking at me..finally embarressment gave away to
anger..and so I flipped them *all* off..and traded foul curses with
them..it was a kind of baptism...after that..I got around just fine;-)

You think insurance is bad there..move to Hawaii..it will double!

But..perhaps I'm confused..i see that you say..subruban campus..perhaps
you're not in D.C.  all the header didn't show up..where are you?

good luck and remember..don't let the creeps get you down..on the
other hand..I wouldn't flip them off as I did..they might shoot you.

Aloha        

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"I don't ask for much..just your heart on a silver platter;-)"
						-Kali
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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Insanity Angst
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:01:09 GMT
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973

In article <y3hnc=b.jamesh@netcom.com> jamesh@netcom.com (James Hightower) writes:
>kovarik@utkux1.utk.edu (SaintMeechTheChaste) writes:
>
>>Why is it that Pauly Shore can act crazy and get away with it?
>
>Because no one want's to upset Mitzi by doing anything about it?
>Because he gets paid for it?
>Because he's younger than us? Richer than us? Smarter than us?

Smarter?

>Because he looks good doing it?

He does?


>Because he's cooler than us?

Is he?

>Because he's on MTV and we are not?

This may be the best justification so far...

>Because he's cute and we are not?

Who am I to judge?

>Because... Well, because.


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From: rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Meech-o-matic
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:36:54 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <1992Aug28.062854.28758@utkux1.utk.edu> kovarik@utkux1.utk.edu (SaintMeechTheChaste) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.013148.19397@samba.oit.unc.edu> Bruce.Tindall@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Bruce Tindall) writes:
>>
>>So, if being UN-meechingly pessimistic is to be *very* pessimisitc,
>>how dare a Meech (presumably an optimist) befoul (beclean?) the sacred
>>cesspool of alt.angst?
>
>Good Gawd!!!!  I've been found out!!!!!
>
>>>Is a change of name in order?  If you want an angstogenic moniker,
>>I can heartily recommend "Bruce"...
>
>Ok.....  I'm game!
>
>			StBruceTheChaste


no, i think it should be jennifer. "stjenthechaste". much better.

equal opportunity angsting,

bah.

--
		-just give me what for,
	rachel perkins =  rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu
      "Chastity..the most unnatural of all the sexual perversions...."
					-Aldous Huxley
From: rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: A new source of Angst.....
Date: 29 Aug 92 06:10:14 GMT
Organization: depressed

kovarik@utkux1.utk.edu (SaintMeechTheChaste) writes:

>In article <18055@acorn.co.uk> ABienek@acorn.co.uk (Alex Bienek) writes:

>Dedicated activists aside, I think it is unlikely that the Eastern
>block would have collapsed so fast had the standard of living not fallen
>as low as it did there to pay for the military that the government thought
>that it needed to defend itself.

Don't forget that _both_ sides had to pay for an oversized military.
The "command" economy was stillborn - it's simply inefficient.

>  They may
>have interfered in the domestic politics of neighbouring countries.
>But don't we do that too?  What's the difference between the Soviets
>funding rebel groups in El Salvador, while the U.S. funded the Contras?

What's the difference between the Soviets controlling Poland while
the US is allied with the UK?

>>And let's be clear that the collapse of the Soviet Union did not
>>cause the ethnic conflicts now taking place, it merely removed
>>the restrictions. These people had old scores to settle dating
>>back to WWII and earlier, and they mean to settle them no matter
>>who gets in the way.

>The collapse of the Soviet Union did not cause them. But the Soviet
>Union did keep all these forces in check.  Sort of like a police force,
>they kept people from doing to each other what they might want to.
>Is that so bad?  There are lots of people in various parts of the 
>Soviet Bloc who probably wish things would go back to the way it used
>to be. 

Hitler stopped inflation and unemployment. Many of your problems will
go away if get your brain removed. 

[Saddam Hussein]

>>  4) Nuke Israel, Iran, USA, Britain and France, not necessarily in that order.

>C'mon, the only way he would actually nuke any of these countries is if
>he were completely insane. He already miscalculated once.  Would he do it
>again?  

Have you been following the development in Iraq since the desertstorm?
He is not aware that he lost!

>Of course, if human life really is irrelevant, then blowing up people
>doesn't matter.  By the way, you might think why there's so much interest
>in preventing Iraq's Air Force from bombing the Shiite Muslims and the
>Kurds, but nobody will make the same effort to stop the Serbs from using
>the old Yugoslav airforce from bombing Muslims in Bosnia-Hercegovina,
>and this, logistically would be extremely easy to do.  Clearly, there
>is something extra special about Iraq.  What could it be?

The situation is 18 month older.

ObAngst: politics.
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| Jesper Lauridsen      |      Life is a spectator sport  | 
| rorschak@daimi.aau.dk |     I think, therefore I angst  |
|_______________________|_________________________________|
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray)
Subject: Re: relocation angst
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering Inc.
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 03:41:13 GMT

In article <59967@mimsy.umd.edu> kimy@cs.umd.edu (Yong-Mi Kim) writes:
>
>
>I think a suburban campus combines the worst characteristics of
>urban and rural campuses: located in the middle of nowhere with
>nothing to do, impossible traffic, high prices and high rents.
>
>I really miss Chapel Hill.  sniff.

I miss Humboldt State.
Located in world-infamous Humboldt County, HSU sits on the
edge of Arcata, population 14,000 (7,000 in summer).  The
ocean's 4 miles away (but _cold_), the redwood forest starts
right behind campus.  There's only two stoplights in town.
There's about 6 good organic resturaunts, and the best organic
food co-op in the universe.
Everyone's really laid-back; it's not uncommon to see an
ancient VW bus, with obligatory Greatful Dead and Save the Whales
stickers (they come that way from the factory, don't they?)
sit at a stop sign for 5 minutes or longer because the driver's
too stoned to decide which way to turn.



--
            Eric Murray                 ericm@microunity.com
In this game, the winner is also the loser, and the judge's decisions are final
From: kovarik@utkux1.utk.edu (SaintMeechTheChaste)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: angst
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:46:36 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center

In article <1992Sep2.181503.13901@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> jlewis@astro.as.arizona.edu (Jeff Lewis) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.165554.8107@utkux1.utk.edu> kovarik@utkux1.utk.edu (SaintMeechTheChaste) writes:
>>
>>Hey!  The guy's a physicist!  How could he possibly be happy?  At any
>>time.  Presumably, his message reflects the homogeneity and isotropy of
>>his angst, and 9/1/92 11:31 pm, a time essentially chosen at random,
>>to him feels as Hellish as any other.  Profound!
>>					Meech 
>
>
>First of all physicists are happy...they just don't know it..and if
>they did they couldn't prove it.  If we consider this time to be
>the initail condition,  (ie t=0) and angst is an randomly applied 
>perturbation to the system (ie his life)..then as time increases
>instability dominates.  SO maybe this is just a cry for help 
>..he wants to reset his life to t=0
>

Back to the womb!  And beyond!
					M
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: despair@netcom.com (Scott Hanson)
Subject: Re: A ""What the hell?"" Angst theme....
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 16:58:27 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <something> matt@crawfish.math.tulane.edu (Matt Hopkins) writes:
>In article <s=cnf7j.despair@netcom.com> despair@netcom.com (Scott Hanson)
>> The last, and most spectacular one so far (for me) happened while my
>> neighborhood was burning along with the rest of my new hometown, Los  
>> Angeles.
>> The metaphors were amusing (and poignant)
>Hmmm... We just had a hurricane (which killed the net for a few days here.)
>
>What gives?
>
It seems very different to have nature threatening myself and the obvious
failure of our society, lack of individual responsiblity, etc. etc. becoming
an immediate danger.  Nature has always been harsh; it keeps us strong (or at
least it did)  It is not the same for me to feel attacked by my own (?) race
especially due to so much nastiness.  I am not thinking clearly.  Let me try
to finish this off.

A hurricane would be frightening but rather stimulating.  Afterward, assuming
I survived, it would be something I could look back on and feel a sense of
strength and adventure on having experienced it.  It would be a not unpleasant
sensation.

Riots that burn my neighborhood up are also frightening.  Afterward, (I
survived) it is something that makes me extremely depressed.  Nearly the
entire population here seems worthless and unrespectable.  All the same I
do not like to see the beaurocratic and governmental unpleasantness done
to them.  There seems to be no way to make things good, or even better.
Destruction of nearly everything and a new beginning may work.  I am not
making myself clear, but believe me when I say Los Angeles (with or without
riots) is so depressing even I am surprised at the depths of my sorrow and
angst.

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From: llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: freedom angst (was a new source of angst)
Date: 30 Aug 92 22:56:54 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

in the lovely political thread, Jesper Lauridsen
(rorschak@daimi.aau.dk) wrote:

: Hitler stopped inflation and unemployment. Many of your problems will
: go away if get your brain removed. 

this is one of the things i started noticing when i pulled my brain
out of mothballs a few years ago: there's this weird balance that
exists between freedom and safety.

the idea's not anything new... fromm talks about it in _escape from
freedom_. but basically, the more freedom you have, the less security.
the two are inversely proportional.

in a society, this means that the more freedom you have, the greater
the crime rate will be and the greater the chance that someone might
get away with a crime. and as meech said in the original thread, there
are probably a lot of people in the old soviet union who miss the
security of the old days. you may not have had a lot of personal
freedom, but you had a pretty good idea of what was going to happen
and what your place in it was.

in this country, the balance is shifting away from more freedom...it's
a pretty simple process: get the people scared of something, like drug
lords taking over our cities and corrupting our youth, or hordes of
illegal immigrants stealing all the best jobs. then explain to them
how, if they'll just give up a few of those little rights they're not
really using anyway, rights that no law-abiding citizen with nothing
to hide would really need anyway, the protectors of us all can stop
those nasty drug lords and illegals right in their tracks. so we agree
that some of the protections against unlawful search and seizure are
silly in light of the drug problem, and we agree that it's cool to
make people prove their citizenship before they can get a job. if you
have nothing to hide, we say, why do you need due process? you're
innocent. no big deal.

but every time we give up something, we run the risk of never getting
it back. it's gone. something over half the people in a recent survey
thought it would be okay to allow warrantless searches of residences
of suspected drug dealers. warrantless!! 

it's the sheep mindset again. think about right now, think about
safety, don't worry about the long-term effects of the compromises
we're making to appease the big drugwargod. sigh. it's the same sort
of thinking that attracts people to fundamentalist religions: no
doubts, no fears, just a nice person to tell you what you think and
the comfort of knowing that you're absolutely right.

sometimes i wish i could do it. it would be peacefuller.

--
sine nomine
debbie martinson
"strange to find the calendar my enemy and scared that when i die so
will the things i think about" -- toad the wet sprocke
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: ONRL jobs?
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:05:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.175641.18809@beaver.cs.washington.edu> boesch@cs.washington.edu (Eric Boesch) writes:

>ObNationalLabHazards: manmade plagues, cursed holy relics,
>experiments with forces beyond human control, scientists blindly
>flipping switches on UFOs' dashboards, government agents who
>"disappear" anyone who quits

Yeah, isn't that annoying?  Last time one of our guys here twiddled a
knob on our captured alien UFO, our lunch hour vanished.  Talk about
pissed!

Although, I have to admit, I rather enjoy playing with the Forces Beyond
Human Control.  It always impresses people at parties.

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From: rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Accents
Date: 23 Aug 92 23:33:32 GMT
Organization: depressed

boesch@cs.washington.edu (Eric Boesch) writes:

>Why should we care about your society?  In case you missed the
>Republican convention, the US is still the best in all important
>measures, and everyone looks to us, not to some insignificant European
>country. 

I thought it was the democrats who promised to ignore the rest of the
world.
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| Jesper Lauridsen      |      Life is a spectator sport  | 
| rorschak@daimi.aau.dk |     I think, therefore I angst  |
|_______________________|_________________________________|
From: v122jr52@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Thomas H Dunning)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Great guy!
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:49:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep01.093328.11291@bnr.uk>, datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes...
>I was reading my friend's encyclopaediacal dictionary and I came across this:-
> 
>Schop'enhauer, Arthur (1788 - 1860)
>German pessimistic philosopher, who taught that the absolute reality is a blind
>and restless will, that all experience is essentially evil and that release can
>be attained only by overcoming the will to live.
> 
>Seems like he should be dug up, jump-started and forced to post regularly to
>this group.

Actually, if he thought that "release can be attained only by overcoming the
will to live", he might be better suited for alt.suicide.holiday

				td
From: kovarik@utkux1.utk.edu (SaintMeechTheChaste)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: ONRL jobs?
Date: 28 Aug 92 06:22:14 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center

In article <1992Aug27.145659.11873@kei.is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp> jeff@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp writes:
>
>To make up for my previous post (dream) I will attempt to lighten the mood.
>
>I was looking through the most recent IEEE Computer rag and noticed
>that there are no less than two, count 'em too, job postings at Oak
>Ridge National Labs.  That's right, you can go and join Meech, the
>long haired, Canadian fizzasist and US beer convert 

Ahem!  I have a stash of Canadian Beer. I am not a convert.

[summary of the national lab survey deleted]

C'mon down!!!!!

						Meech
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: National Lab Syndrome  (Score Update)
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:10:27 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.060919.6017@acme.gen.nz> kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I) writes:

>> >> CLaim To Fame Corner:  speaking of COPS.  I once saw an episode where
>> >> they chased a guy driving a stolen car right down the street that one of
>> >> my college friends used to live on in Pittsburgh.  It's a small world
>> >> after all.
>> >
>> >I hope you realise that was *your* 15 minutes of fame?! I trust you took
>> >time out to savour it.
>> 
>> Can I purchase more time?
>
>Unfortunately, no, they had a clearing sale on Minutes of Fame and Madonna
>bought the last carton.


Maybe I can steal some by wearing large, inexplicable "breast cones" in
public.  I'm not sure I understand what causes the excitement over this,
but it seems to get people the attention that they're looking for.  In a
similar vein, I suppose I could also try grabbing myself in public.
This also seems to be effective.  Heh, and to think a few years ago,
you'd be thought to have some kind of socio-psychological disorder for
doing that.


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From: jlewis@astro.as.arizona.edu (Jeff Lewis)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: angst
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:15:03 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: angst
Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ
Keywords: 

In article <1992Sep2.165554.8107@utkux1.utk.edu> kovarik@utkux1.utk.edu (SaintMeechTheChaste) writes:
>In article <fulton.715443113@silver> fulton@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Ben Fulton) writes:
>>In <1992Sep2.062745.22405@physics.ucla.edu> smolin@physics.ucla.edu (Smolin) writes:
>>
>>>9/1/92  11:31 pm
>>
>>In and of itself, or an event that happened then?
>>
>
>Hey!  The guy's a physicist!  How could he possibly be happy?  At any
>time.  Presumably, his message reflects the homogeneity and isotropy of
>his angst, and 9/1/92 11:31 pm, a time essentially chosen at random,
>to him feels as Hellish as any other.  Profound!
>					Meech 


First of all physicists are happy...they just don't know it..and if
they did they couldn't prove it.  If we consider this time to be
the initail condition,  (ie t=0) and angst is an randomly applied 
perturbation to the system (ie his life)..then as time increases
instability dominates.  SO maybe this is just a cry for help 
..he wants to reset his life to t=0

Jeff




From: jlewis@astro.as.arizona.edu (Jeff Lewis)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: angst
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ
Keywords:
From: blosser_cy@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: listless stream of angst running nowhere in particular
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:48:19 EDT
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC

every time i see you walk by i turn my head and refuse to look afraid that
you'll glance in my direction and catch me staring at you, knowing exactly
what i'm thinking--what could have happened, what we could have been, what
happened instead that made life a lot gloomier and set me on a bad trip in
to the dark void of despair where i don't want to go, and i can't help but
wonder why--why me? why this? why the fuck do things have to turn out this
way all the time again and again time after time after time with no end in
sight and sometimes when i lie in bed, staring at the blank white backdrop
of the ceiling wishing my mind were just as blank, i think of you and some
times i dream of someplace far away where flowers bloom, and the sun still
shines...and the fireflies dance on the blades of grass like they used to,
because that's where you are furthest from my mind, that's what i want, to
get you out of my mind, out of my brain--dammit, quit fucking with my head
--can't you see what you're doing to me? stop stop stop why does this only
happen to me? whatever happened to love? is it just a dead language? where
true intentions are masked by false smiles and cold eyes revealing nothing
of the cruelness beneath? then i pray for the listless sleep of the damned
to come over me like a blanket of darkness wash over me like a sea of numb
grief betraying no emotion hiding everything behind a wall of indifference
and finally when my feet slip and i dive into the emptiness within, i find
that i never really knew you & i tell myself i did the right thing leaving
you behind.........
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Hurricane David...
Date: 25 Aug 92 16:27:24 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Is anybody angsting over hurrucane David?  Has it destroyed their lives?

Please, somebody from near to the damage centre, give us the low down of
what it's like to be in one of those things.

ObAngst>  I will be seeing a woman on Thursday, we arranged to meet using a
          dating agency, and I KNOW it will turn out disastrous.  :(

Nick.
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: jeff@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Jeff McAffer)
Subject: ONRL jobs?
Reply-To: jeff@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp
Organization: University of Tokyo, Good Times Department.
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:56:59 GMT


To make up for my previous post (dream) I will attempt to lighten the mood.

I was looking through the most recent IEEE Computer rag and noticed
that there are no less than two, count 'em too, job postings at Oak
Ridge National Labs.  That's right, you can go and join Meech, the
long haired, Canadian fizzasist and US beer convert as he watchs the
antics of the men from Glad in their never ending quest for hidden but
hot love nests and tasty foot morsels (Note, those with shoe fetishes
best not apply).  Rumour has it that there is much fun to be had
counting limbs on animals and observing the local social structure.
never having been there I cannot comment on the climate or smell of
the air but I wouldn't want to ruin all the surprises.  Recent polls
show ORNL as the top research lab in the country (US that is) (see
alt.angst.National.Labs.Summary)

Note:  Shin Kanemaru (age 77) graduated from the University of Tokyo's
Agriculture Department in 1936.

I hear that question is asked at the job interviews (anyone confirm that ?)

Well, I will be off now,

--
atode, |m         -- My PEZ dispenser is a god.  I bow down to its yellow
                     beak in the hope that cherry nodules will gush forth.