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From: steve@celia.UUCP (Steve Tyree)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Quayle on abortion
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:59:00 GMT
Reply-To: celia!steve@usc.edu (Steve Tyree)
Organization: Rhythm & Hues, Inc., Hollywood

In article <1992Aug25.000122.20127@pmafire.inel.gov> cdm@pmafire.inel.gov (Dale Cook) writes:

->"Gee, I really sympathize with you, Mr. Slave, but the majority
->says you aren't really a person, and I've got to go along with it for the
->sake of the country.  You understand don't you?"

 The slaves may be free because the majority decided they should be. The 
slavery issue may have just been one of the first divisive issues used by
socialists. The reason slaves were kept was that the government decided
not to give them rights. Maybe a vote would have saved thousands of lives.

->Of course :-)  Seriously, all I'm saying is that a system of majority rule
->is a Bad Thing.  I've tried to supply reasons why.  I have yet to see you
->deny that any of these possible scenarios could come to pass.  Usually,
->you wave your arms and toss out the Big Government boogyman.  BTW, I still
->haven't heard your answer to the question, "would you inject the poison?".
->I made a guess as to your answer.  Is it the right one?

 The only reasons you have provided is that the minority might not agree
with the majority. I counter this by giving examples on how if we let the
government try to protect minority rights than which minorities will they
help and which minorities will they hurt. Ie - they help the mother who
wants abortion rights but kill the unborn child by not giving them rights.
I have stated that only a few issues need to be decided this way. 
 The two that come to mind are    Establishment of Human Rights
                            and   Drug Legalization.
 These two issues are being used by the socialists to keep us small govern-
ment types opposing each other. 

->Sigh. Who decides what is divisive?

 The people ! 

->And if you don't like it, leave, eh?

 Or join the individualist revolution against the socialist.

Steve Tyree - These opinions are mine and mine alone.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: catstyle@deja-vu.aiss.uiuc.edu (CatStyle )
Subject: Re: About the posts
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 15:29:49 GMT

The speeches posted by James A. Buckner will be put on my anonymous ftp
site deja-vu.aiss.uiuc.edu probably in the
/misc/fun/republican.national.convention dir.  I won't have time to do it
until this weekend.

BTW, these, John Switzer's Rush transcripts, and other assorted stuff are 
now available via gopher.  If you have a gopher client you can open a new
gopher, gopher.aiss.uiuc.edu and go through the 'Internet Resources', 'Fun',
and 'CatStyle's Archives' directories to get to them.

If you have a gopher server, you can include the link:

Name=CatStyle's Archives
Type=1
Path=1/internet.resources/Fun/CatStyle's Archives
Host=gopher.aiss.uiuc.edu
Port=70

Jason R. Heimbaugh, (CatStyle)
jrh@uiuc.edu

P.S.  Rush's book is great (I stayed up 'til 4 last night reading it).
      Especially good because I didn't listen to Rush back in the Caller
      Abortion days.  Wish he'd bring them back.
From: acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Arthur C. Adams)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Republicans and the Far Right
Date: 23 Aug 92 20:36:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Great Beyond

Just a few examples of how the far right has taken over the
Republican party:

1) The guests in the Presidential box at the convention. The first
three nights (the fourth night it was the real big-wigs) the guests
included Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and Rush Limbaugh. (From
a list in the Washington Post's daily convention coverage)

2) A line about 'the New World Order' was removed from the platform
to satisfy Pat Robertson supporters, who thought it was 
part of a conspiracy. (George Will, on the August 23 This Week with 
David Brinkley)

3) Again in the platform, the words 'religious pluralism' were removed
and replaced with 'Judeo-Christian', again to satisfy Robertson
supporters. (George Will, again)

4) Once again to satisfy Robertson supporters, the term 'humanitarian'
was removed from the platform, because it reminded them too much
of 'secular humanism'. (George Will, once again)

5) The platform plank on abortion does not include exceptions for the
life of the mother, rape or incest; it calls for a complete ban. This
is opposed to the views of the nominee. (Local talk show host)

6) Pat Buchanan's references to a 'culture war', a term used by 
the Nazis. (Same local talk show host)

The Republican party is being very distinctly taken over by its radical
right wing, dominated by extremist religious fundamentalists and crackpots.

-- 
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with an incredible number of bits.
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From: krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Summary Thu 8/20/92
Keywords: Unofficial Rush Limbaugh Rebuttal
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:25:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson AZ

In article <1992Aug27.185253.6300@sdc.com> norm@sdc.com (Norm Nithman) writes:
>>
>>o       Rush says that many people seem to think that the rich
>>are evil hedonists who have cheated or inherited their wealth.
>>This is simply not true with the rich, nor is it true that Rush
>>is just wasting his time in Houston. He, along with many others,
>>are working hard while in Houston, just like the rich work hard
>>to get their wealth in the first place.
>>
>Not to disparage the many rich and well-off people who have worked hard
>for their money, but most of the super rich have made their money the old 
>fashioned way - they inherited it!  An examination of the pinko rag Forbes
>400 list shows that most on that list have indeed inherited their lucre.
>
>Rush saying this is consistent with his deification of the rich, but he should
>remeber that Our Saviour said that it is easier for a rich man to pass through
>the eye of an needle than to enter the kindom of heaven.
>
>Yours in Xt.,
>
>Norm

Norm, don't even start quoting scripture, especially if you don't 
have any idea what it means.  Do you even know what an "eye of the 
needle" is?  No.  Well let me tell you.  The eye of the needle was 
the name given to lowered (about 3-4 ft) doorways for the main 
entry of roadside inns in the ancient middle east.  The doorways 
were made low so that the cammels would have difficulty getting 
inside where the people were.

Ted

-- 
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"Aw, that's just black street talk." -- Ice-T (about the above line)
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From: shapiro@trade.enet.dec.com (Steve Shapiro)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Rush Rooms
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:34:33 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Marlboro, MA
Organisation: SKS Computer Consulting, Inc.

Wasn't there a list of Rush Rooms floating around a while ago?

Most specifically I am interested in those in Eastern MA.

Thanks.

Regards,
Steve.

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From: rja@redwood26.cray.com (Russ Anderson)
Subject: Re: Leadership & GHWB
Originator: rja@redwood26
Organization: The 1991 World Champion Minnesota Twins!
Date: 25 Aug 92 12:58:28 CDT


In article <1838@celia.UUCP>, steve@celia.UUCP (Steve Tyree) writes:
> In article <1992Aug21.145257.14617@umbc3.umbc.edu> alex@engr3.umbc.edu (alex) writes:
> ->	Leadership is the ability to take control and guide people. Bush
> ->hasn't been able to guide congress, and he blames congress for that, but 
> ->thats not the point. *It's his job* to guide congress, even a hostile congress,
> ->and he hasn't been able to do it. Since congress is not going away, Bush
> ->needs to demonstrate that he can control congress, or he isn't a leader.
> ->I suppose, if your a right winger, it's nice to know the pres. will cow down
> ->to you, but if he can't do the job, electing him can't be good for the party.
> 
>  The American people are extremelly frustrated at Congress right now and Ross
> Perot and the Democrates are attempting to shift this frustration towards the
> president.

Americans are frustrated at a shitty economy and at politicians that seem more
interested in blaming each other than getting the economy going again.

>            I remember when Foley and Mitchell performed the October scare last
> year. Thats when they had their goons in the national media constantly run
> dire predictions on how bad the economy was.

The economy was slowing down.  4th Q (1991) economic growth was *negative*.

>                                               Foley and Mitchell were constant-
> ly on TV telling us how this recession was turning into a depression. Then
> the University of Michigan noted that the consumer confidence index dropped 
> 30 points 4 weeks after these dire annoucements started. This alarmed the demo-
> crates so much that Foley and Mitchell stopped the negative economy predict-
> tions. Thats not what I call leadership. You dont ruin consumer confidence
> in a recession even for political gains.

Telling the truth that the economy was getting worse is no vice...

-- 
Russ Anderson    |  Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
------------------              upon my employer or anyone else.  (c) 1992
EX-Twins' Jack Morris, 10 innings pitched, 0 runs (World Series MVP!)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: fusco@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Andrew Fusco)
Subject: Re: A few quotes from a few years ago
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: world, usa, na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:37:17 GMT

tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin) writes:

>How about not teaching morality, and letting the parents teach it at home?
>Or would you prefer that the government, or it's representatives (teachers)
>instill their morality on your kids?

Teachers are hardly "representatives" of some anonymous "government." Rather,
teachers are and always ought to be representatives of the parents who make
up the community - and teachers should always have to answer to those parents
who pay the majority of their salary. Seen in this light, perhaps it is 
reasonable to think that parents should have some influence over what is
taught in their schools - even if it is "morality."

-ACF

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From: rja@redwood26.cray.com (Russ Anderson)
Subject: Re: Summary Mon 8/31/92
Originator: rja@redwood26
Keywords: Unofficial Summary Rush Limbaugh
Organization: The 1991 World Champion Minnesota Twins!
Distribution: world,usa,na
Date: 1 Sep 92 12:34:03 CDT


> The Bush people faxed a copy of the Arkansas Tax Handbook to
> Rush, and it shows that George Will and Michael Kinsley were
> mistaken in their criticisms of the Bush figure.

Note Rush does not explain how they were "mistaken".
>                                                   A 1987 Arkansas
> law, Act 383, lengthened the dog-racing season, and Kinsley
> claims that Bush is wrong in calling this a tax increase.
> However, the dog-racing industry is a state-granted monopoly, and
> the owners of this monopoly have contributed heavily to Clinton's
> campaigns.

> The size of the dog-racing revenues which go into the Arkansas
> state coffers can be seen in what happened last year - Clinton
> granted a 1% increase to the parks' take from dog-racing, and the
> state lost $1 million in tax revenues. However, the 1987
> extension of the dog-racing season was for the explicit purpose
> of raising state revenue, and this increase in revenues was
> specifically targeted for city and mental retardation programs.

> Granted this is not a tax in the real sense of the term, since
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> going to the dog-racing track is a voluntary activity. However,
> it was a payback to Clinton contributors, and was an increase in
> the size of state revenues. Any such increase has to come from
> the people, and Rush lets the audience decide as to whether this
> fits the description of what a tax increase is.

As George Will pointed out on "David Brinkley", if increasing
the size of government revenues is the definition of "raising taxes",
then by the same standard the capital gains tax cut, which Bush claims 
will increase revenues, is "raising taxes".

-- 
Russ Anderson    |  Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
------------------              upon my employer or anyone else.  (c) 1992
EX-Twins' Jack Morris, 10 innings pitched, 0 runs (World Series MVP!)
From: steve@celia.UUCP (Steve Tyree)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Summary Mon 8/31/92
Keywords: Unofficial Summary Rush Limbaugh
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:01:24 GMT
Reply-To: celia!steve@usc.edu (Steve Tyree)
Distribution: world,usa,na
Organization: Rhythm & Hues, Inc., Hollywood

In article <1992Sep2.154547.5658@umbc3.umbc.edu> alex@engr3.umbc.edu (alex) writes:
->	Dog racing is not a government owned monopoly, it is a private concern
->that is taxed by the government. The governer made two changes to the rules,
->he lowered the percentage of the governments take by 1% (ie: reduced the tax)
->but expanded the number of hours the tracks were allowed to operate 
->(ie: reduced the restrictions). The net result was an increase in state
->revenue from increased track profits.

->	Sounds a whole bunch like capital gans cuts to me.

 Please someone explain why

   "Sounds a whole bunch like a capital gains tax cut to me"

   makes any sense. Why does it sound that way ?

 Steve Tyree  - These opinions are mine and mine alone.
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From: jbuckner@lonestar.utsa.edu (James A. Buckner)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: GOP Convention Speeches
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:14:44 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

Sorry about being so late with the speeches.  I had some problems
with the files.

There is a ^m at the end of each line in the file.  Use a text editor
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: alex@engr3.umbc.edu (alex)
Subject: Re: Summary Mon 8/31/92
Keywords: Unofficial Summary Rush Limbaugh
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus
Distribution: world,usa,na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:51:27 GMT

In article <1884@celia.UUCP>, steve@celia.UUCP (Steve Tyree) writes:

|>  So how do you compare the government allowing an industry to operate more
|> often with a capital gains tax cut. I thought the standard democratic line
|> was that a capital gains tax cut only helped the rich.

	No, the democratic party line is that short term capital gains only
help the rich. Both the democratic congress and Bill Clinton favor a cut
in long term capital gains, and we could even have had that by now, except
that Bush threatened to veto anything but an across the board cut.

-- 
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The feminist agenda is a socialist, anti-family political movement that 
encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice 
witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. - Pat Robertson 1992
From: tedr@athena.cs.uga.edu (Ted Kalivoda)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Polls and the Liberal Media
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:07:51 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens


Just a repost if anybody missed this:

In article <1992Sep3.205143.11302@athena.cs.uga.edu> tedr@athena.cs.uga.edu (Ted Kalivoda) writes:
>>
>>Bush first fell behing Clinton big time after Perot dropped out...  
>>a full month before the convention.  Bush hasn't gained much ground since  
>>the RNC, but he hasn't lost much ground either.  So I don't think the  
>>convention had much to do with it.
>
>Let us begin a new discussion.  Monday night Mcneil/Lehier new hour had a 30
>minute discussion about Polls and what thier place was in politics and
>elections.  Bush has gained a lot of groud after the RNC.  What was it
>before?  Clint 58% to Bush 32%? Some 26 points.  The most recent poll I have
>seen is the Time/CNN poll taken Monday or Tuesday (August 30th?):
>
>	Blinton:  46%
>	Cush:     40%
>
>Sheewww, that's a substantial difference folks.
>
>But here's the real issue:  Every night after the DNC I saw as the first
>story on the news on most every major news network the recent polling
>information about Clinton's lead.  
>
>Now, after the RNC what do we see?  I have only seen about 3 or 4 polls
>showing Bush's comeback.  Boy I would like to get the solid info on this
>because it could really be damaging.  Instead of Bush's comeback, what would
>discussed was mainly the supposed sleeze in the Convention.  Two days after
>the convention, the Atlanta Constitution ran a Saturday Headline showing a
>poll about Bush's disapproval rating on the economy.
>
>It went like this: "Do you feel the President has handled the economy
>poorly?"
>
>This is so pathetic.  What about "Do you feel the Congress has handled the
>economy poorly?"
>
>And to have this 2 days after the convention.  What blatent partisanship. 
>And the networks are bleeding on the floor with guilt with the polls.
>
>======================================================
> Teddy Kalivoda  ------------> tedr@athena.cs.uga.edu 
>   University of GA Computing & Network Services       
>     Inst.of Higher Education               
>=====================================================                                                                          
>	"The sleep of reason gives rise to monsters"
>				        (Goya, Caprichos)
>
>
>
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From: mitch@lsil.com (Mitch Sako)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: George Will on the GOP
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:07:45 GMT
Reply-To: mitch@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Computing Systems

In article 1871@celia.UUCP, steve@celia.UUCP (Steve Tyree) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.180737.15129@lsil.com> mitch@lsil.com writes:
>>I've found recently that his show has become a three hour campaign commercial
>>for Bush.  Equal time, anyone?
> On CNN Bela Shaw cracked a joke about the emmys being a 3 hour commercial for
>Bill Clinton. Where is the conservative equal time ?

Actually, it's the Hollywood elite who put on the show :-)


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From: tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Pat Buchanan on usenet
Date: 30 Aug 92 23:12:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: organpip.1992Aug30.231220.27477
Distribution: usa, na
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group



Rumor has it that Pat Buchanan wanted a usenet account until somebody
pointed out that the news poster appends a ".sig file",  and not
a ".sieg heil".
From: tedr@athena.cs.uga.edu (Ted Kalivoda)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Capital gains idiocy (was Clinton's broken promise)
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:11:00 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Aug25.141214.3203@dbsun.uucp> hulsey@dbsun.uucp (hulsey) writes:
>pearsodc@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (D) writes:
>
>There is a point where lowering the tax rate will reduce the revenue.
>Theories I've heard say that the tax rate of maximum return is around
>30%.  Do you have any theory to back up your rates, or did you just
>make them up?

Do this theory mean 30% in real terms or 30% from the feds + all the rest
from state and local.  As it stands, the middle class pays over 40% in
taxes.
>
>Also, do you think that the deficit spending during the Reagan years
>have anything to do with "more money into the economy?"

Deficit spending during the Reagan years did not have anything to do with
more money in the economy, rather it was that congress wanted to spend more
money than it had, plain and simple.  This is the same with the 1990 tax
deal, where Bush signed in hope to secure spending freezes which congress
avoided



>
>Sorry, I don't think the conservatives in their big houses and country
>clubs know what "problems of the lower and middle classes REALLY are"
>either.  I don't agree with paternalistic liberalism, but I also don't
>agree with laissez-faire conservatism either.  There must be a happy
>medium.

There are many liberal and conservatives that are poor and have nothing.  A
characterization of either liberal or conservative in terms of wealth is a
false implication.

tk
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From: mitch@lsil.com (Mitch Sako)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re:  Clinton, draft dodger.  YUP!
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:22:36 GMT
Reply-To: mitch@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Computing Systems

In article JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com, JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com () writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.170420.9007@tellab5.tellabs.com>
>linda@tellabs.com (Linda Jensen) writes:
>>	do the dirty work.  And please don't try to equate the
>>	Indiana National Guard with the jungles of Vietnam.
>Why not?  Clinton, when asked on Good Morning America about his qualifications
>to be commander-in-chief, said "As Commander-in-chief of the Arkansas
>National Guard, I had to respond to extreme emergencies on several occasions.
>There was a time when the Cuban detainees rioted and I had to restore order.
> . . . I don't think I'd be unprepared as a Commander in Chief."

What does military service, including the NG have to do with the ability to
serve as commander-in-chief, anyway?  I fail to see this.  It's certainly
a phoney issue, a false choice, and not really related to the ability to
run the country.

If one's draft status is a necessary qualification to be president then
what all those who think so are doing is excluding 50+% of the population,
that is, all women, since women are not eligible for the draft.

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