HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: slangley@constant.demon.co.uk (Simon Langley)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X protocols.
Date: 10 Oct 92 22:54:11 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Home

Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:28:59 GMT
Message-Id: <BvrvsB.Ho@constant.demon.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Raum Pattikonda (raum@isoa3.ba.ttu.edu) wrote:
: 
: I would also like to know if there are any good books on X protocol internals.
: 
Try 'X Protocol Reference Manual' pub. O'Reilly & Associates ISBN 1-56592-008-2

This is volume 0 of a series of X manuals that also covers Xlib.

-- 
   Simon Langley                   (preferred)   slangley@constant.demon.co.uk
   Hampstead, London                             slangley@cix.compulink.co.uk
From: suthers+@pitt.edu (Daniel D Suthers)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Comments on TAE+ sought
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:13:18 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Date: 8 Oct 92 16:09:56 GMT
Message-Id: <7074@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics,comp.unix.misc,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif

If you have used NASA's TAE+ (Transportable Applications Environment
Plus) I'd like your comments. 

Specifically I'm interested in whether it could support creation of an
interactive graphing tool in which the users draw structured graphs
(representing arguments for and against competing hypotheses) and an
underlying application (in lisp) is informed of changes to the graph
so it can update its data structures and respond as appropriate.

Please mail directly to suthers+@pitt.edu (I may not find your
response on these huge BBs.)

-- 
 Dan Suthers 	 	| LRDC, room 505A
 suthers+@pitt.edu 	| 3939 O'Hara Street
 (412) 624-7036 w 	| University of Pittsburgh
 (412) 363-3992 h	| Pittsburgh, PA 15260
From: smd@sl0091.srl.ford.com (Steve Dahmen)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Seeking WSYWYG basic vu-graph editor for RS/6000
Date: 13 Oct 92 07:11:25 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Scientific Research Lab, Ford Motor Company

Date: 12 Oct 92 17:36:22 GMT
Message-Id: <1bcd2mINNaeu@ef2007.efhd.ford.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.motif,comp.windows.x


Can anyone recommend a public domain, X/Motif, fairly basic slide composers
similar to SGI's Showcase?  We just want to be able to put big text
easily on a page, and spool it to a postscript printer. Color support
would be cool, but not necessary.

Thanks for your help!!

-- 
Steve Dahmen ** Graphics Application Programmer
Ford Motor Company
smd@sl0091.srl.ford.com
313-594-3229 (work)
-- 
Steve Dahmen ** Graphics Application Programmer
Ford Motor Company
smd@sl0091.srl.ford.com
313-594-3229 (work)
From: todd@fred.dfrf.nasa.gov (Todd Vernon)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X Under Windows NT
Date: 11 Oct 92 01:22:23 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: NASA Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards CA

Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:25:13 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct8.172513.19695@news.dfrf.nasa.gov>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.dec

 
>	I agree. Now - ask yourself if Microsoft wants to win the scientific
> community's love and respect, or if it wants to ship millions of copies of
> NT to all the folks who are currently using PC LANS as fancy typewriters
> and point of sale systems. I think you'll quickly understand the demographics
> of the situation.

I conceed, we both no the answer to that.  It grippes me no end the 
willingness of the proverbial DOS cattle to be lead into the waiting hands
of Microsoft who crushes anything innovative and NOT INVENTED HERE.

I realize that this discussion probably does not belong here, take a
number and be PROCESSED by Microsoft.

Can we all be saved.....
From: iwona@Software.Mitel.COM (Iwona Hawrylak)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Hourglass Pointer for multiple windows application.
Date: 10 Oct 92 11:58:44 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

Date: 7 Oct 92 18:35:43 GMT
Message-Id: <13150@iwona>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif

While the application is performing a lengthy operation I would
like to display an hourglass cursor in the main window and all of
other secondary windows of the application. Is there any simple
way of setting the hourglass cursor for all of the windows at the
same time instead of having to call XDefineCursor() for every window
in the application (the number of the subwindows can be quite large)?  

1. If I call XUndefineCursor() for every window then this window
   inherits its parent window's cursor but only at the creation time.
   Is there any way for it to work dynamically as well?

2. If there is no other way but to call XDefineCursor() for every
   window what is the easiest way to retrieve the list of application's
   windows - XQueryTree() gives a list of all the windows including
   the windows that are associated with every widget of the interface

3. This question has been answered in Frequently Asked Questions of
   comp.windows.x (Subject 126). I've followed the instructions exactly
   but the cursor was set only for the main application window and not
   for any of the secondary windows.

I would appreciate your help.

/Iwona

P.S. We use UIM/X User Inteface Management System (Graphical UI Builder).
     I was wondering how many of you are using it as well. If there
     are many of us then maybe it would be worth to start a newsgroup
     to exchange the information and share the problems.


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From: mjk@hoot.asd.sgi.com (Mark Kilgard)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: General questions about X protocol and max sizes
Date: 14 Oct 92 01:56:00 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

Date: 13 Oct 92 01:31:01 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct13.013101.16584@odin.corp.sgi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <9210122016.AA03091@expo.lcs.mit.edu>, MCOG@CHVM1.VNET.IBM.COM ("Michael A. Coggins") writes:
|> (I sent the a while back, but I don't know if it got
|>  to the newsgroup.  Sorry if you are seeing this again.)
|> 
|> Question of possible interest for server gurus only:
|> 
|> Most of the dimensions for X and Y in the X protocol
|> are INT16 (signed int) and for width and height they
|> are CARD16 (unsigned int).
|> 
|> The X server sample does not really deal with these consistently
|> in all cases.  For example in miHandleExposures all x and y values
|> and width and height values are passed in as int, which is OK.
|> However, at one point there is the following code:
|> 
|> srcBox.x2 = srcx+width;     (x2 is a signed short)
|> 
|> The problem here is that if width is big (32768 to 65535) and srcx
|> is small (zero for example) then srcBox.x2 will be negative.
|> 
|> This can obviously cause problems down the road, particularly in
|> the case on which I am currently working.  How should this be
|> handled?  Should I attempt to find all these cases and report
|> them as "bugs"?  Should I chop down large widths whenever I
|> seem them in my ddx code?  (I'm only working in the ddx).
|> 
|> You might think normal clipping will handle this, but it doesn't
|> in this case for reasons too complex to describe in 200 words or less.

This is a problem discussed in a paper titled "Why X is
Not Our Ideal Window Sytem" by Hania Gajewsk, Mark Manasee,
and Joel McCormack, all of Digital Equipment.  The paper
can be found in the special X issue of _Software Practice and
Exeperience_ Vol20(S2) of October 1990.

The recommendation they make (to future X protocol revisers)
is "Width and height should be defined as either 15-bit unsigned
values, or better, as 16-bit signed integers with negative
values treated as errors.  In the C Xlib and XtK bindings, width
and height should be signed to match C arithmetic semantics.
In languages with subrange types, their type should be defined
as the range 0..32767.  The procotol should also explicitly
restrict all windows to be contained within the 16-bit signed
coordinate space of the root window."

My advice is since you probably don't have to have a window
that big, try to confine yourself to smaller windows.  2^15 is
pretty large.  This problem can probably be considered on
the "fringe" of X protocol conformance.  But the problem
is real.

I wonder if the X Test Suite tests conformance for large
windows.

- Mark
From: stevens@scubed.com (Jeff Stevens)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: keysym problems transporting X/motif application
Date: 11 Oct 92 14:09:58 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: S-CUBED, A Division of Maxwell Labs; San Diego CA

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 05:55:05 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct9.055505.5100@scubed.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif

  I am trying to transfer an executable program (X11R5patch16, motif1.1.4)
to another site.  It works fine on our local network, but at the remote
site I get errors like:

Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfUp
Warning: ... found while parsing '	 <Key>osfUp:        ManagerGadgetTraverseUp()'

Usually this warning means that the program can't find the XKeysymDB file.
Both locations have this file in /usr/lib/X11.  On the local network,
however, on which X and motif were compiled, /usr/lib/X11 is a symbolic
link to /usr/local/x11r5/lib.  Does this error result because X or motif
remembers this local name? Is there a way to point the application to the
right location through an environment variable or xset command?  If so, I
can't find it in the documentation.  If not, how do you create a portable
application that doesn't require files to always be in the same location?
-- 
----------------------------------------------------------
Jeff Stevens	stevens@s3mars.scubed.com, stevens@seismo.css.gov
From: suh@rainbow.dcrt.nih.gov (Edward Suh)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: How to unpack .F
Date: 7 Oct 92 22:01:20 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: National Institutes of Health

Date: 7 Oct 92 16:47:18 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct7.164718.837@alw.nih.gov>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Would someone tell me how to unpack a filename.tar.F?
Thanks.

---------------------------------------------------------
Edward B. Suh			Phone: (301) 402-3045
Bldg. 12A, Rm. 2021		Internet: suh@alw.nih.gov
National Institutes of Health	uucp: uunet!nih-csl!suh
Bethesda, MD 20892
From: chaz@supplytech.com ( Mr. Chaz Bullock)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Problem with Hummingbird Exceed/W
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:47:37 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 15:12:59 EDT
Message-Id: <9210081912.AA08791@supplytech.com>

I am trying to use Hummingbird HCL-eXceed/W, an X server for microsoft
windows, on top of ftp's PC/TCP network software over a token ring
network of PCS, a sparcstation 2, an SCO box, and an RS/6000.  The
eXceed/W server handles SCO clients well, but hangs on any Sun or
IBM clients which load fonts.  The trace outputs show:
	782:	(5)	==> Request 45	OpenFont
	783:	(5)	==> Request 47	QueryFont
	784:	(5)	<-- Reply to 47 QueryFont
	    /*
	    ** at this point it hangs, until I kill the client
	    */
	786:	(5)	******** socket closed
	    /*
	    ** NOTE: number 785 was skipped in the trace output
	    */

I've compared working SCO traces to non working traces and found no
unexplainable differences, up to the point at which the client hangs.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 ChaZ Bullock, Supply Tech, Inc., Ann Arbor, MI   	chaz@supplytech.com
+++++++++++++++++++++++++ standard disclaimers apply ++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: ccnjb@bristol.ac.uk (Nick Bruton)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: FAQ
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:11:15 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Bristol, England

Date: 12 Oct 92 13:33:47 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct12.133347.5245@bristol.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Can someone po
From: mctaylor@mta.ca (Michael C. Taylor)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Looking ToolKits that are on PCs too
Date: 9 Oct 92 06:45:32 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada

Date: 7 Oct 92 01:33:00 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct7.013300.24745@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I am looking for a GUI Toolkit that can be used to create a GUI which
works for Amiga, X-Windows, and whatever else. Prefered language is C,
since that is what I normally use. Please be nice, I am normally an Amiga
programmer, not a X-Windows type of person.
From: zahabi@discover.wright.edu (Bassem Zahabi)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Preventing users from using my screen display
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:32:08 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Wright state University

Date: 13 Oct 92 21:57:49 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct13.165750.4752@desire.wright.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Hi everybody,

Is there a way in X that will allow me to disable the remote access to my
display screen preventing remote users from displaying pictures and other
X applications on it.

If so, please send mail to:

zahabi@discover.wright.edu

or reply to the net.

Thank.X. much.


-Bassem
From: jlu@mcs213k.cs.umr.edu ( Eric Jui-Lin Lu )
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: How to display a graphic file on the root window of login?
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:27:58 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

Date: 12 Oct 92 20:34:12 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct12.203412.8884@umr.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Just curious.

I use xdm and wish to change the background of the login window.
Is it possible and how?  I know how to xli -onroot but I wish the
background can be kept even when I log out, like what scene
can do for the NeXTs.  Thanks!

  --Eric
-- 
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From: vic@vic.ipmce.su (victor roitberg)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Win 3.1 under DesqView problem (weird)
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:24:55 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: ipmce

Date: 9 Oct 92 16:01:32 GMT
Message-Id: <ABSpQrgeyA@vic.ipmce.su>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Strange problem with DESQVIEW/X --------------
 1. When starting winx (Windows 3.1 in x-windows) I get the "Incorrect DOS
version" reply (I use MSDOS 5.0)!!??
 2. When starting Windows under DESQVIEW/X I get
               -    Can't run Windows in Standard mode
               -    Some protected mode applications already running
      kind of error
   Interestingly enough there are no problems when running Windows without
DESQVIEW/X.

Thanks for your replies
-- 
=============================================
-Victor Roitberg    vic@vic.ipmce.su
From: dlc@ddsdx2.jhuapl.edu (Dave Collard x7468)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X-server for MSDOS
Date: 11 Oct 92 13:31:10 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Johns Hopkins University

Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 12:21:58 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct8.122158.23860@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In <1992Oct6.103444.7778@cucs5.cs.cuhk.hk> shlam@eng.ie.cuhk.hk (Alan S H Lam) writes:


>Could anyone tell me where I can get a very small
>X-server for MSDOS so that I can install it on
>my 486 PC? Thanks.

ftp to export.lcs.mit.edu[18.24.0.12] in /contrib/XServers-NonUNIX.txt.Z    or
       ftp.uwp.edu[131.210.1.4]       in /pub/misc/XServers-NonUNIX.txt     or
       msdos.archive.umich.edu[141.211.164.153] in
                msdos/info/XServers-NonUNIX.txt and msdos/info/xnonunix.zip

for a list of MS-DOS X servers  (along with Mac, Windows, OS/2, Amigas)

>--
>Alan S. H. Lam
>Department of Information Engineering, CUHK, Hong Kong
>E-mail: shlam@eng.ie.cuhk.hk 
>Tel: (852) 609 7975 Fax: (852) 603 5032
From: quekck@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Chwee Kong QUEK)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Wanted: "bitmap gallery" utility
Date: 7 Oct 92 10:37:37 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: HP Singapore Notes-Server

Date: 6 Oct 92 02:26:57 GMT
Message-Id: <53620003@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Bjoern,

>In comp.windows.x, bjoerns@stud.cs.uit.no (Bjoern Stabell) writes:
>
>    In article <1992Oct2.083021.15020@cenaath.cena.dgac.fr>, quinton@stna.dgac.fr (Marc Quinton STNA 7SU p8046 BD24) writes:
>    ] 
>    ]  
>    ] >     Hi folks,
>    ] > I need a utility which displays many bitmaps in a single window 
>    ] > (e.g. displays 25 30x30 bitmaps), preferably ALL the bitmaps contained 
>    ] > in a directory. Does such an animal exist?
>
>    ImageMagick comes with a program called "montage", from the man page:
>
...
>
>    And, of course, it is Public Domain.  Enjoy. :)

Which ip address and which directory to get it ?

thanks
quek

>
>
>    Kind regards,
>    -- 
>                                                      Bjoern Stabell
>                                                      University of Tromsoe
>                                                      (+47) 83 44 053 / 83 75 164
>                                                      bjoerns@staff.cs.uit.no
From: kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: XAquarium?
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:04:21 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: NASA/JSC/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office

Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:11:51 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct6.141151.10502@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <BvGsrK.FIy@acsu.buffalo.edu> rjking@acsu.buffalo.edu (Randall J. King) writes:
>Does anyone have an Xaquarium program (or equivilent) for X11 or OpenWindows?

My old buddy, Eric Bina, ebina@ncsa.uiuc.edu, sent me a note a while back:

>My news reader won't currently let me post my announcement of xfishtank.
>
>But, if you want to get it, it is on export.lcs.mit.edu as
>contrib/xfishtank.tar.Z
>
>	Eric

Of course, I'd use the "getit" notation:
  export.lcs.mit.edu:contrib/xfishtank.tar.Z

-- Ken Jenks, NASA/JSC/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office
      kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov  (713) 483-4368

     "We choose to go to the moon not because it is easy,
      but because it is fun." 
	-- John F. Kennedy, as [mis]quoted by 
             Scott Brigham, scotbri@rosemount.com,
             in alt.folklore.urban
From: gfong@bellahs.com (Gary Fong RD)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Help with xdm & sun mit sample server
Date: 11 Oct 92 11:31:31 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Bell Atlantic Healthcare Systems

Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:23:49 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct8.162349.5081@bellahs.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


Info:
  Sun IPC (4/40) w/ SunOS 4.1.2
  MIT X11R5 p17
     w/ sun keyboard patch 920802 by maf@dtek.chalmers.se
     w/ XTrap extensions

I'm having problems with the termination of the X server via xdm.  Here's the
senario.  I have xdm running on the IPC managing only its local display. When
the server terminates either from logging out coupled with the true value of
DisplayManager*terminateServer or hitting the ^\ at the login prompt, xdm
hangs: the process still exists but X is no longer on the console.

I get these kinds of messages in xdm error log file:

(( This is after bringing it

    DEC-XTRAP:  AddExtension assigned Major Opcode '132'
    DEC-XTRAP:  Vers. 3.2-0 successfully loaded

(( This is after bringing it down via ^\ then up.  In this case, it actually
(( came up.  Sometimes it doesn't come up on my first try and sometimes it does

    XIO:  fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) on X server ":0.0"
	  after 75 requests (45 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
	  The connection was probably broken by a server shutdown or KillClient.
    DEC-XTRAP:  AddExtension assigned Major Opcode '132'
    DEC-XTRAP:  Vers. 3.2-0 successfully loaded

(( This is after bringing it down via ^\ and trying to bring it back up. This
(( looks like xdm is trying to bring the server up 4 times, failing each time.

    XIO:  fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) on X server ":0.0"
	  after 75 requests (45 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
	  The connection was probably broken by a server shutdown or KillClient.
    DEC-XTRAP:  AddExtension assigned Major Opcode '132'
    DEC-XTRAP:  Vers. 3.2-0 successfully loaded
    
    Fatal server error:
    Unsupported keyboard type -1
    
    error (pid 3984): IO Error in XOpenDisplay
    error (pid 3960): Display :0.0 cannot be opened
    DEC-XTRAP:  AddExtension assigned Major Opcode '132'
    DEC-XTRAP:  Vers. 3.2-0 successfully loaded
    
    Fatal server error:
    Unsupported keyboard type -1
    
    error (pid 3986): IO Error in XOpenDisplay
    error (pid 3960): Display :0.0 cannot be opened
    DEC-XTRAP:  AddExtension assigned Major Opcode '132'
    DEC-XTRAP:  Vers. 3.2-0 successfully loaded
    
    Fatal server error:
    Unsupported keyboard type -1
    
    error (pid 3988): IO Error in XOpenDisplay
    error (pid 3960): Display :0.0 cannot be opened
    DEC-XTRAP:  AddExtension assigned Major Opcode '132'
    DEC-XTRAP:  Vers. 3.2-0 successfully loaded
    
    Fatal server error:
    Unsupported keyboard type -1
    
    error (pid 3990): IO Error in XOpenDisplay
    error (pid 3960): Display :0.0 cannot be opened
    error (pid 3960): Display :0.0 is being disabled


Gary Fong
Bell Atlantic Healthcare System, Inc
gfong@bellahs.com
From: fgreco@shearson.com (Frank Greco)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Review of Multiple LnF Toolkits?
Date: 8 Oct 92 12:29:56 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Lehman Brothers

Date: 5 Oct 92 19:06:35 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct5.190635.3495@shearson.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Does anyone have or know the whereabouts of a published (or posted)
comparison among the various multi-Lnf toolkits?  These toolkits
include such products as Visix Galaxy, ParcPlace OI, XVT, AT&T Moolit,
Aspect and Neuron Data OIT.

Thanks all,

Frank G.
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From: jbthiel@cse.ogi.edu (John B. Thiel)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: "paged" vs. panned virtual desktop
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:37:49 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR

Date: 9 Oct 92 14:18:07 GMT
Message-Id: <43882@ogicse.ogi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


Is there a window manager or other mechanism to effect a virtual
desktop that is "paged" rather than panned? The idea is to have
a control w/ eg. 3x3 boxes that represent 9 subdivisions of the virtual
desktop. Clicking one of the boxes displays the corresponding part of
the desktop on the physical screen. The pages should be continuous (ie.
a window could be between pages), and ideally the 3x3 array would reflect
in miniature the sizes and positions of all objects on the desktop.

I have tried ctwm, but its pages are discrete, and the control consists
only of colored buttons.

Any pointers appreciated.


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