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From: irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine)
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: Mideval Music Collection
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:59:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxtoqF.780
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign


	I got a CD of 'Mideval Music' and I am hooked.  I want to hear more
	and would like to know where I can get recordings of more of this
	kind of music.

	Thanks,
	
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Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: RE: Fretwork
From: beth diane garfinkel <bgarfink@SILVER.UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Date: 17 Nov 1992 19:24:02 -0500
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>I'm envious:  I left IU in May of '80, before there were any special early
>music programs there.  What's it like now?
>
Aside from the addition of the Early Music Institute, much the same, as
far as I have been informed in the past; I had a professor in college
who spent a semester here in the '50's and left ASAP because it was too
much of a diploma mill. At the moment, there is a plethora of students,
particularly sopranos, and not enough practice or classroom space.  The
School of Music did buy the old Education Building, so there is now a
new Education Building across the street from Weatherly and Teter, but
it will take a few years before the building is modified enough to suit
our purposes.
 
As for the early music program here, Wendy Gillespie is on the faculty,
and housed the other members of Fretwork in her house while they
rehearsed.  Apparently, they only started rehearsing the music to the
Simon Bainbridge piece the week before their tour.  She's really cool,
as is Elizabeth Wright, my teacher :) (I play harpsichord).  Paul Elliott,
Wendy's husband, teaches voice.  The life and soul of the department is
Thomas Binkley, who is rather an enigmatic man; I'm taking a course from
him and about half the time, I don't know what he wants from me or
anyone else in the class, but he i absolutely brilliant.  Eva Legene teaches
recorder, and she is a wonderful performer and teacher, if not the best
administrator, and to round out the faculty, Rick Seraphinoff teaches natural
horn, in addition to building them.  We have about 35 students in the EMI, about
evenly divided among viols, voice, recorder, and harpsichord.
 
I could go on and on, but that's the basic gist.
 
Oh, and there is an early music radio show on the local public station,
run by one of the EMI students.  She's trying to get it syndicated
nationally, and raised a respectable amount of money for it in the last
fund drive.  You may have heard of her; she also reads "A Moment of
Science."  Her name is Angela Mariani (Smith).
 
Oh, and Mad Max still shows up from time to time preaching in Mad Max
Meadow (north of Ballantine).
 
                                                                Beth
--
"This must be Thursday.  I never could get the hang of Thursdays."
        -Arthur Dent, on being told that the Earth is about to blow up.
From: charles@yc.estec.esa.nl (Charles Stroom)
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: Re: recorder care tips
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:15:37 GMT
Organization: ESTEC/YCV, Noordwijk, The Netherlands

In article <de19-161192120654@mac19-pg2.umd.edu> de19@umail.umd.edu (Dana S Emery) writes:

>> It is imperative that the instrument be left to dry as long
>> as possible before doing this, otherwise you will have no end of
>> trouble getting the block back in afterwards. Also, avoid touching
>> the top surface of the block with your fingers, as they exude
>> oils etc.
>
>Actually, I had thought to avoid a detailed discusion of HOW to do this, as
>it can be risky.
>
>I hadnt considered the finger oil aspect, but it makes sense.  Usually I
>take advantage of this dissasembly to gently (400 grit) sand down any
>raised grain on the block, but one must be VERY carefull not to reshape the
>block, usually a couple light strokes does it. I dont recomend this to
>anyone who would be unwilling to make their own blocks.
>
If you scrape or sandpaper the top of the block it is of the highest
importance that you do not reshape, touch or whatever the small little
chamfer on the south end of the block (the side near to the window).
The form, angle, and anything of this little chamfer is very critical to
the sound, burbles in the low register, and many more of the recorder.

    ------------------\ <- keep off!
    \                 |
     \   block        |
      \ --------------|

Best is to keep your thumb over it so that you don't accidentally touch
it.  I wouldn't be too much concerned about touching it with my hands,
at least i do it and i cannot see any adverse effects (also it is
somewhat difficult to make them without touching them :-).
-- 
Charles Stroom, Estec/YCV

charles@yc.estec.esa.nl  or	CSTROOM@ESTEC.BITNET
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Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: Ars Femina
From: Paula Elliot <ELLIOTP@WSUVM1.BITNET>
Date: 16 Nov 1992 10:04:22 -0800 (PST)
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I'm very interested in the material on the disc "Non Tacete!", music by
women written before 1800, (Nannerl NRARS 092)  performed by the group
Ars Femina. Are there members of the group on this list, perhaps?  Feel free
to respond to me directly, so we can get acquainted. I would particularly
like to know if performing editions of the works on the disc are available--
especially the motet "Cari Musici" by Bianca Maria Meda. Can anyone out there
help?  PE
From: QUINN@GONZAGA.BITNET
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: Il Pastor Fido
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:41:00 GMT
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BTW -- does anyone have a cite to anything wherein an intersted party might
read up on the inauthenticity of Il Pastor Fido?  I've checked RILM and
Academic Index on Dialog as well as NEXIS to no avail.
 
Thanks.
 
James Quinn
Quinn@Gonzaga.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: RE: Music editor for Apple Mac
From: Jeff Titon <JTITON@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Date: 19 Nov 1992 08:37:37 -0500 (EST)
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Stephen: It depends on how complex your scores need to be, and whether you
want to enter your music by hand on a computer keyboard/mouse or on a
synthesizer using midi.  I suggest you look into a program called Music
Prose, a simpler version of Finale, which sells for about $200 in the USA
and would seem to be able to do what you want (including midi).  I think
you'd outgrow the simpler programs.  It's amazing what they can do, though.
Good luck,
Jeff Titon
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: RE: "gut strings anyone..."
From: "Stephen T. Moore" <STMOORE@PUCC.BITNET>
Date: 16 Nov 1992 07:59:24 -0500 (EST)
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Contact Olav Chris Henriksen, Boston Catlines, Newbury Street, Somerville, MA
02144 (area code 617 - I don't have the phone # handy) - he's a fine lutenist
and makes strings as well. Tom Moore STMOORE AT PUCC
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: MARTIN CODAX
From: "Harvey L. Sharrer" <sharrer@HUMANITAS.UCSB.EDU>
Date: 21 Nov 1992 11:23:37 -0800
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I am seeking bibliographic references to published reviews of
the following book with recording:
 
        Ferreira, Manuel Pedro.  THE SOUND OF MARTIN CODAX.
                O SOM DE MARTIN CODAX.  Lisbon: Imprensa
                Nacional-Casa da Moeda, 1986.
 
I know of two reviews:
 
        Page, Christopher.  _Early Music_ 16 (1988): 101,
                103, 105.
        Parkinson, Stephen.  _Modern Language Review_ 84
                (1989): 759-61.
 
[An informational aside: Ferreira (ABD Princeton) and I are col-
laborating on an edition of seven "cantigas d'amor" by King Dinis
of Portugal, with musical notation, fragments preserved in a late
13th-early 14th cent. MS in the Arquivo Nacional da Torre do Tombo,
in Lisbon.]
 
Harvey L. Sharrer
Department of Spanish and Portuguese
University of California
Santa Barbara, CA 93106
tel: 805 893-8378 (office)
     805 893-3161 (Dept.)
fax: 805 893-8016
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: hostne@ucunix.san.uc.edu (N. Q. Host)
Subject: Re: MONTY PYTHON:  CD ..???
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Distribution: rec
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 06:28:19 GMT

In article <1332@fozzy.UUCP> twollnik@aud.alcatel.com writes:
>I have heard once before that there is a CD available
>that has all of the Monty Python songs and sketckes on it.
>Is there anybody out there that has this, or knows the name
>of it.
>
>I would greatly appreciate it...Thanks
>
>===============================================================================
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>yeah I know!! but at least it HOCKEY !!!!


yes, i saw it today in the cd store.. it had songs from their movies
the first song was "always look on the bright side of life" and had
some pictures in it.. it was called Monty Python.....  i forgot the
last part of the title... sorry...

n.host
hostne@ucunix.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: BMG Gripes
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:27:32 GMT

ung@felix.filenet.com (Bill Ung) writes:

>OR, you could use the arm-twist method.  If you've completed your
>membership agreement and they won't put you on "Positive Option",
>then tell them it's not worth your trouble anymore and would they
>kindly terminate your membership.  Chances are, they'll rethink
>their position real fast.

Good luck. I told them I'd quit after I got my free discs if I had to mail 
the card back each month. Next time I called I found the woman I had spoke
to had already cancelled my membership, even though I hadn't yet got all my
free cds. 

  - malcolm
From: harden@acsu.buffalo.edu (Alex Harden)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Rush _Moving_Pictures_ MFSL version [new]
Date: 22 Nov 92 01:12:17 GMT
Organization: UB

i saw in a recent issue of "stereo review" that MP was recently released 
as a MFSL UltraDisc.  

since Mercury's version of MP was recorded ADD, i would be very interested 
in hearing anyone's comments about any comparisons of the Mercury and 
MFSL discs.  [ i already have the mercury version, of course.]

thanks!

-- 
alex harden-------------- "some are born to move the world to live their
harden@acsu.buffalo.edu--  fantasies; most of us just dream about the things
v409epk3@ubvms.bitnet----  we'd like to be" - peart "losing it" 1982
From: randy.sumner@travel.com (Randy Sumner) 
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: MUSIC BBS'S
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:02:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Travel Online / St. Louis Online - St. Louis, MO
Reply-To: randy.sumner@travel.com (Randy Sumner) 

Since Wayne Green (formerly of CD Review) no longer has a music 
section on his BBS, does anyone know of BBS's dedicated in whole or 
part to music.

Aikido, are you out there?

               Randy
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Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: vinlai@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (vincent.lai)
Subject: Buying CDs with no artwork ...
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:40:06 GMT

I recently was at a CD/record show last weekend.  I saw a display full
of rather new CDs (the two I bought were Sade's Love Deluxe and Roger
Waters' Amused to Death) with no artwork at all.  All that was
displayed were the CDs in a jewel box, and that's it!  They were $5
each and the discs are in good shape (I played Sade this morning).

I now have two CDs in only a jewel case and a couple of questions:

Is it possible at all for me to obtain the artwork (liner notes, etc.)?

How did this particluar vendor wind up with a bunch of CDs with no
artwork?  My first impression says that in order for him to get
refunds from the distributor, he would only have to send in the
artwork, much like the way a newspaper stand gets refunds for unsold
magazines by mailing in only the cover.

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From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Want Opinions on CD Cabinet
Date: 17 Nov 92 03:06:58 GMT
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <92321.152824BXL108@psuvm.psu.edu> BXL108@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.215211.21302@ms.uky.edu>, miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D.
>Grant) says:
>>Sounds nice.  Are the CDs stored horizontally or vertically?  >I remember
>reading long ago that storing CDs vertically over a long period >of time
>(for months into years) can be harmful.  
>
>I,ve heard the opposite is true.  


From my Now Playing selection (Thelonious Monk with John Coltrane, if you
must know):

	"In the Compact Disc Digital Audio System, digital playback 
	combined with laser optics produces the most [blah, blah, get
	to the point]....For best results, the Compact Disc should be
	stored in a vertical position to prevent warpage, and should
	not be exposed to direct sunlight, heat, or humidity for a 
	prolonged period of time..."


See?  All ya gotta do is read the directions.



-- 
Ray Shea                               I woke up this morning,
UniSQL, Inc.                           all my shrimps was dead and gone...
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From: murtaugh@math.orst.edu (Paul Murtaugh)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Want Opinions on CD Cabinet
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:05:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: talon.1ebfq3INNlhp
Organization: Oregon State University Math Department
NNTP-Posting-Host: feelgood.stat.orst.edu

>>I remember reading long ago that storing CDs vertically over a long period 
>>of time can be harmful. 
>I,ve heard the opposite is true.  People have told me to store disks
>vertically to prevent possible warping 

Actually, it's well known that CD's should be stored at a 45-degree
angle to maximize their lifetime.

Thank you very much.
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,uiuc.classifieds
From: rgp39716@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Rahul G. Patwari)
Subject: FOR SALE: compact discs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 20:45:39 GMT

prices are negotiable, please leave me e-mail if you are interested ...


Paula Abdul 			Forever Your Girl	$5  
John Williams&Boston pops	Swing, Swing, Swing	$5
Heart				Heart			$8
Heart 				Bad Animals		$7
Night Ranger			Greatest hits		$8
Foreigner			Greatest Hits		$7
Huey Lewis			Hard At Play		$8
Asia				Then & Now		$8
Spinal Tap			This Is Spinal Tap	$8
New Monkees			New Monkees		$3
Bonnie Raitt			Luck Draw (Jewel Box!)  $8
RTZ				Return To Zero		$8
Star Trek			The Next Gen: SNTK	$6
Various				Gold & Platinum Vol5	$5
Roger Hodgson (Supertramp)	Hai Hai			$7
Steve Howe			Turbulence		$8
Chris Issak			Heart Shaped World	$7
Van Halen			Van Halen I		$8



-- 
Rahul G. Patwari         
rgp39716@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
University Of Illinois  
At Urbana-Champaign    
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: dap@portal.vpharm.com (David A. Pearlman)
Subject: Re: Ambrosia
Keywords: First Record
Organization: Vertex Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 06:11:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.153314.12341@anasaz> pacion@anasaz (Ray Pacion) writes:
>Does anyone know if the first, self titled Ambrosia album will ever
>be released on CD?  I've seen 'Life Beyond L.A.' and 'One Eighty' on CD
>as Japanese imports.  How do these 2 compare to 'Ambrosia'?  What are
>they up to these days?  I know that Joe Puerta is with 'Bruce Hornsby
>and the Range', but what about the others?
>

Warner Brothers now controls the masters for the first two albums. They
recently hired someone to oversee a reissue program. Prior to that, they were
the only major label without a significant reissue effort. You might
see the first two albums come out as part of that effort.

The first two albums are MUCH more interesting than any of the albums
that followed them. The later efforts, e.g. "Life Beyone LA" and "One
Eighty", are rather dull LA-pop.

dap
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    David A. Pearlman

Vertex Pharmaceuticals Inc.                     email: dap@vpharm.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Want Opinions on CD Cabinet
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 06:21:00 GMT
Organization: Usenet Power Elite: Crush-The-Innocent-Newbies Strike Team

afry@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Alan R. Fry) writes:

>>>> I remember reading long ago that storing CDs vertically over a long
>>>> period  of time can be harmful.  
>>>
>>> People have told me to store disks vertically to prevent possible
>>> warping.
>>
>> Actually, it's well known that CD's should be stored at a 45-degree
>> angle to maximize their lifetime. 
>
> I've been storing them at 56.3 degrees which is Brewster's angle for the
> plastic in the case.  Keeps out stray polarized light. 

Aw, hell.  And all this time I've just been floating them in my bathtub.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: tparker@music.scd.ucar.edu (Tom Parker)
Subject: Re: Finding CDs
Organization: Scientific Computing Divison/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:24:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.190406.21781@sbcs.sunysb.edu> rojohnso@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu (Ronald Johnson) writes:
>Hey...
>
>Ive been trying to find some CD's that are sort of rare...I know what label
>they are on, and you know how Cd's/tapes etc. have that little note saying
>manufactured and marketed , with the record label and an address?? Well the
>label that the CD's are on(as of a lot of other labels) are in Manhattan NY,
>and I was just wondering could I possibly go to the address, and hope to find
>out how to get these CD's, or is this just like an executive office, not really
>open to the public?? I guess the other option is to write letters to these
>addresses, and hope for a response, but I was just hoping that rather than
>waiting for them to get around to my petty requests, and *hoping* that they
>respond, Id rather just go to the address since Ill be in the area...Anyone
>know about this, also does anyone have any type of  addresses/phone numbers
>of places that order rare CD's just in case none of the rest work?? Its not
>so much as these are rare CD's, but they were released overseas....Oh, and a
>question about CD's released overseas, which are also released on US labels..
>Particularly Big Life, which are based in Manhattan but usually are crosslisted
>with overseas labels...Is it possible to get info from the US labels, or would
>I have to contact the overseas label???
>                                                       THanks 4 any info..
>                                                                   RJ

I read in this newsgroup about the Compact Disc Connection, which allows you to
dialup and query their database (and order CDs if desired).  I tried it and was
very impressed.  One of their databases contains addresses/phone numbers for
over 1,000 record labels.  Perhaps that would be of some help. 

Their CD database contains over 56,000 titles, and you can query by artist,
title, song, label, number, etc.  I found several CDs I couldn't find
elsewhere.  Their prices seem to be better than average (though not as good as
Noteworthy).

They have 3 phone numbers in different parts of the country:

     CA:       408-730-9015
     Chicago:  312-751-2447
     NY:       212-532-4045

They go up to 9600 baud; modem settings should be N-8-1.

Good luck!
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From: 2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Buying CDs with no artwork ...
Date: 16 Nov 1992 21:05:30 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu

>
>I now have two CDs in only a jewel case and a couple of questions:
>
>Is it possible at all for me to obtain the artwork (liner notes, etc.)?
>
>How did this particluar vendor wind up with a bunch of CDs with no
>artwork?  My first impression says that in order for him to get
>refunds from the distributor, he would only have to send in the
>artwork, much like the way a newspaper stand gets refunds for unsold
>magazines by mailing in only the cover.
>

Well in response to your questions...

Short of buying the discs new...there is really no way to obtain the 
artwork et al...unless of course you photocopy it from a friend...or buy the
disc, steal the artwork, and return it claiming defect....(some actually
ship that way by accident)

He had no artwork cuz the discs you got were most likely promotional copies of
the discs sent to record stores and radio stations for on air and in store
play...he conveniently removed the discs from the store/station and got himself
a booth to sell the things...Which is illegal..but as a former record store 
employee I can assure you that it is a nice way to suplement your meager
income.....Also...he may have gotten copies of the discs from other people in
trade who opted to keep the artwork...he gives them a buck or two and sells
them for five....

Later.
-justin

Record collector scum unite...
(anyone know where I can find a copy of Tad's God's Balls on disc?  The whole
thing, not the short version on Salt Lick...)
From: detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu (David De Trolio)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: New CD International Catalogue out
Date: 18 Nov 92 04:30:08 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

dlangs@sunstroke.sdsu.edu (Derek Langsford) writes:

>I recently received a post card from CDI in Oregon that the new
>compendium was in the mail to me.  I also noticed copies last
>night in my local Tower Records.  

I also just received my post card notification.  I am always amazed by
the size and the scope of each issue.

>So, they are still in business, still honouring my lone subscription in
>1989 and probably still full of errors in their catalogue.  It is still
>a pretty good source book though IMO.

A year or so ago I called them and asked them the status of my
subscription.  They advised me most subscriptions were being
continued after a major problem they had with a printer in the
area who was not able to produce a quality product on demand.

They said I would be told when my extension had expired.  I am in
no rush, they can continue to ship as long as they like.  It is still
one of the better sources and references when hunting down CD's



-- 
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