HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: baker@ROBOCOP.NYU.EDU (Jonathan Baker)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: A Couple of Questions
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:35:09 GMT
Organization: Courant Institute, New York University

Elie Rosenfeld writes:

>Potatoes are from the New World and weren't known to Chazal at the time the
>prohibition of Kitniyos was enacted.  And thank G-d for that!  If potatoes
>were made kitniyos, we *really* couldn't eat anything on Pesach! :-)

Specious reasoning.  Potatoes are from the new world, and so is corn. 
We can eat potato products, we cannot eat corn products (which allows
us to buy REAL Old-Coke on Passover).

                        Jon Baker
                        baker@robocop.nyu.ed
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,talk.politics.misc
From: earl@cs.columbia.edu (Earl Smith)
Subject: Re: Ross Perot
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:08:17 GMT

In article <92105.135531HANK@BARILVM.BITNET> Hank Nussbacher <HANK@BARILVM.BITNET> writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.132850.12235@hemlock.cray.com>, rja@redwood26.cray.com
>(Russ Anderson) says:
>>I suspect the suggestion that religion is a factor or that Jews
>>are targeted is an attempt to smear EDS/Perot.
>
>I know for a fact that Ross Perot is a big supporter of Israel as well
>as other Jewish causes.  Trying to imply antisemitism simply based on a
>strict company dress code is idiotic.
>
>Hank Nussbacher
>Karnei Shomron
>Israel

Back about 25 years ago, when Perot was a salesman for IBM, IBM had rules just
like this, and more.  The rules took the form of memos from Thomas J. Watson Jr
to All Employees.  Among the rules were:
1.  no facial hair
2.  dark suits (not even light  summer suits)
3.  black wing-tip shoes
4.  white shirts with button down collars

One other you might find amusing was a memo asking employees who felt it
necessary to have a drink at lunch to refrain from drinking vodka when they
were planning an afternoon sales call on a client, because
"we'd rather our clients think our employees drunk than stupid".
This one I kept.

IBM was known for these types of rules, and Perot, coming out of this culture,
might  be expected to adopt similar rules, for the sake of increased sales.

earl smith
earl@cs.columbia.edu
From: afarkas@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Andrew Farkas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: fishfood
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:19:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: Princeto.1992Apr9.131922.29408
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU

In article <1992Apr8.221305.1@zodiac.rutgers.edu> monnik@zodiac.rutgers.edu writes:
>does anyone know fishfood that is kasher lepesach?

In his _The Laws of Pesach:  A Digest_ for 5752 Rabbi Avrohom
Blumenkrantz writes:

"Most pet and fish foods are, or contain, _chometz_.  Most commercial
pet food is actual _chometz_.  One who owns a pet must either give the
pet to a non-Jewish neighbor without the condition that the pet be
returned (trusting your neighbor's good sense), or keep the pet and feed
it non-_chometz_ food.  Live worms, cyclops, flying insects and mosquito
larvae, for example, may be fed to tropical fish on _Chol Hamoed_.
Forzen worms or dead insects may be used on _Shabbos_ and _Yom Tov_.
_Matsoh_ meah in small quantities sustains fresh-water fish such as
goldfish.  Krill fish food can be used on _Pesach_."

Hope this helps, but be sure to consult your local _posek_.  I'm not
competent to do anything--just ask my friends.
-- 
Andrew Farkas
AFarkas@pucc.princeton.edu (Internet) AFarkas@pucc (Bitnet)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: br042@cleveland.freenet.edu
Subject: Re: fishfood
Organization: Migdal Torah - The Jewish Learning Center
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 02:23:13 -0400


In article <1992Apr8.221305.1@zodiac.rutgers.edu> monnik@zodiac.rutgers.edu writes:
>does anyone know fishfood that is kasher lepesach?

Matzah Meal?  Matzah Farfel?  Matzah Fish food?

Yasher Koach & Kol Tuv
 
Avrohom Mordechai Alter



Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Organization: Bar-Ilan University Computing Center, Israel
Date: Tuesday, 14 Apr 1992 13:55:31 IST
From: Hank Nussbacher <HANK@BARILVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Ross Perot
 <1992Apr13.140609.17239@midway.uchicago.edu>
 <1992Apr13.132850.12235@hemlock.cray.com>

In article <1992Apr13.132850.12235@hemlock.cray.com>, rja@redwood26.cray.com
(Russ Anderson) says:
>I suspect the suggestion that religion is a factor or that Jews
>are targeted is an attempt to smear EDS/Perot.

I know for a fact that Ross Perot is a big supporter of Israel as well
as other Jewish causes.  Trying to imply antisemitism simply based on a
strict company dress code is idiotic.

Hank Nussbacher
Karnei Shomron
Israel
From: chasman@athena.mit.edu (David Chasman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: APARTMENT IN CAMBRIDGE TO EXCHANGE FOR JERUSALEM (SUMMER)
Keywords: APARTMENT,ISRAEL,JERUSALEM,CAMBRIDGE
Date: 10 Apr 92 21:14:22 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Large 1 Bedroom Apartment in Cambridge MA.  Air conditioning, Dish Washer,
Washer, Dryer, Fax - 5 minute walk to Harvard Square.  To exchange for
similar accommadations in Jerusalem Israel.  June - End of July (flexible).

	Contact:	Professor Bernstein
			617-353-3077 (FAX)
			617-353-5324 (PHONE)

			or  c/o

			chasman@mit.edu
From: lynx@terapin.com (. Debbie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: explanation of the eg
Date: 16 Apr 92 04:03:50 GMT
Organization: Not an Organization

I always thought the egg symbolizedthe concept of birth and death of the
ending of one thing and the beginning of another.  For the first born, for
hope with understanding of the past, and the choice to begin again.
(then again, what do I know.  This net seems to be the extent of my current
affiliation.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: VSLARRY@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il (Larry Israel)
Subject: RE: CAT FOOD FOR PESACH ... THE LIST
Organization: Mail to News Gateway
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 09:05:12 +0300

In response to Eugene's question as to how you can feed your cat shrimp -

There is no prohibition agains benefitting from non-kosher foods except for
meat and milk cooked together and leaven on Passover. Of course, you may not
eat the other non-kosher foods either. That is why, on Passover, a Jew may not
own or feed to his animals kosher meat mixed with bread crumbs, but my feed
them shrimp.
From: lando@brachot.jct.ac.il (Zvi Lando)
Subject: Purim and Peace Now
Reply-To: <lando@brachot.jct.ac.il (Zvi Lando)>
Organization: Nysernet
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:01:09 GMT

Shalom;

I want to thank Gadi for giving us an example of exactly what I wanted to show.
Gadi I can understand your logic, and I say that by your logic, Mordachai was
the villain of the Purim story, as were the Maccabis, Bar-Kochva, to name a 
few. But you opted not to answer my questions .... so I don't really know.
What do you say?

Zvi from Tekoa
From: friedenb@egr.msu.edu (Jason Friedenberg)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Partial Passover Product List
Keywords: Passover
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:29:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: msuinfo.1992Apr9.202950.21346
Reply-To: friedenb@egr.msu.edu (Jason Friedenberg)
Organization: College of Engineering, Michigan State University



The Union of Orthodox Rabbis (of the UO Hecksher) have a Pesach guide.  It includes
foods, Halacha, and a calendar for the counting of the Omer.  I assume that the list of
foods is only those under their supervision, but it is very long.  Our Hillel was sent 
about 30 copies of this guide.  If anyone wants one, I'll send it to you via U.S.
mail (oh, no...anything but that).  Just email me and let me know.


Gedaliah Friedenberg     friedenb@egr.msu.edu
Department of Mechanical Engineering
Michigan State University
From: sg04@ploni.gte.com (Yechezkal Shimon Gutfreund)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Question to Miracle Analysts
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:30:44 GMT
Reply-To: sgutfreund@gte.com
Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham MA

In article <9204120316.AA26160@relay2.UU.NET>, br042@cleveland.freenet.edu writes:
|> In article <15919@bunny.GTE.COM> sgutfreund@gte.com writes:
|> >In article <1992Apr10.155119.5846@tc.cornell.edu>, bai@msiadmin.cit.cornell.edu (Dov Bai-MSI Visitor) writes:
|> >|> I have a question for competent miracle analysts:
|> 
|>  
|> >|> 	Do you consider Arafat's plane crash a miracle ? I mean the
|> >|> fact that only he survived and all the other died. Is it a sign from
|> >|> G-d that Israel should consider negotiating peace with him ?
|> >
|> >No, Afterall, Hitler had numerous close escapes with attempts
|> >on his life.
|> 
|> What is a miracle?  It is a happening that demonstrates Divine Providence
|> (i.e. that the Al-mighty is the master, director and sole controller of


I see I was too terse in my previous post. I did not mean to imply
that either Hitler's or Arafats "escapes" were not the result of
Hashgacha Pratis (Divine Providence). What I did mean to say was
that we don't use that to infer (logically imply) that we should
have negotiated peace with them.

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From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Abraham
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:24:37 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department

In article <1992Apr13.150052.19481@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> nabil@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Nabil Idriss) writes:
>Somedbody who don't like to engage in discussions E-mailed me the following comment.

>>If he talk about history, why he assume that a Jew is a son of Abraham,
>>an Arab is not? 200 million Arabs must have the right to settle in Palestine..

>Deleted stuff 

>Any body would like to comment on the above?

The Israelites, to whom the term "Jew" was later applied (actually from
Judah), were the descendents of Jacob, later called Israel.  The Torah
specifically states that Ishmael would found a great nation, but that
the territory now called Palestine, or Judea and Samaria, would go to
the descendents of Isaac and not Ishmael.
-- 
Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
Phone: (317)494-6054
hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Internet, bitnet)  
{purdue,pur-ee}!pop.stat!hrubin(UUCP)
From: janiceg@marvin.Eng.Sun.COM (Janice Gelb)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Lubavitcher Rebbe's 90th birthday
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:54:33 GMT
Reply-To: janiceg@marvin.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin

In article 1@acfcluster.nyu.edu, broner@acfcluster.nyu.edu () writes:

>So why should it bother you if Lubavitchers think their Rebbe 
>has all of the virtues to be Moshiach? Don't you have someone that you would
>want to be Moshiach?

It wouldn't bother me if Lubavitchers thought their Rebbe was moshiach
and kept those thoughts within the movement.  However, Judaism as a
whole does not encourage rising a person as a person to be worshipped
(even Moshe Rabbenu was buried so that his grave would not become a
site of worship) and I think the Lubavitchers stance could easily be
misunderstood and ridiculed, not to mention confused with the opinion
of Jews as a whole.

>As far as the children being dissappointed if Moshiach doesn't reveal himself:
>Aren't you dissappointed, at this very moment, that we have been waiting for
>2,000 years in this present (and final) exile and we still don't have Moshiach?
>Don't you feel the pain of this golus? Why don't you yearn for Moshiach as much
>as those innocent children? Please Peter, don't worry for the children, worry
>for yourself.

There is a difference between yearning for the messianic era and being 
told that a specific person will reveal himself at a specific time 
to be the moshiach and then not have that happen.  And if you don't 
think this can cause widespread disillusionment and loss of spirituality,
just recall the events surrounding Shabtai Tzvi.


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From: bc744@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Ira Kaufman)
Subject: Re: Question to Miracle Analysts
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 16:28:21 GMT


It probably is more of a sign for Arafat from Allah than it is a
sign to us!
From: hillel@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (hillel.e.markowitz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Pesach Shiur
Keywords: CHABAD LUBAVITCH PESACH PASSOVER
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:08:35 GMT
Organization: AT&T Migration Systems

In article <1992Apr16.160259.1195@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal) writes:
>In article <635@kesher.UUCP>, root@kesher.UUCP (Aaron_Schmiedel) writes:
>
>>     The four-letter Hebrew word "karpas" when read backwards
>> connotes that 600,000 Jews in Egypt (the Hebrew letter "samech" =
>> 60, times 10,000) were forced to perform back-breaking labor (the
>> other three Hebrew letters spell "perech"--hard work).
>
>OK, I see the 60, but where does the 10,000 come from?


In Hebrew the counting is shown as "sixty revah" which is sixty
<ten thousands>.  Thus the gematria is sixty <then thousands> [did]
perech.

Hillel Markowitz        H_Markowitz@att.com
From: jodar@girtab.usc.edu (Nicholas Jodar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Question to Miracle Analysts
Date: 11 Apr 1992 06:45:13 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu
Summary: So what's the scoop...?
Keywords: Info

In article <1992Apr11.124710.6449@kth.se> d89-mor@nada.kth.se (Monika Orski) writes:
>
>	Actually, Arafat wasn't the only to survive.
>	Does this change anything?
>
>	Monika

That's interesting....  According to my information, the other
three people in the plane were killed in the crash.  He sustained
minor injuries, and was flown to a hospital to confirm his good
health.  This is also not the first time, supposedly, that he has
had a 'close call'....

If your information is different from mine, please share it with
me.  I'd like to hear what you have to say on the matter.

-Nick
From: shlomo@colditz.Berkeley.EDU (Shlomo Zilberstein)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: ISRAELI TEST PILOT LOOKING FOR A PARTNER FOR A TRIP
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:00:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Originator: shlomo@colditz.berkeley.edu


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  o  Leaving LA area and ending in Washington DC.
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     itinerary is flexible.
  o  Looking for adventurous, good natured person, aged 22-35.
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     (will be in the bay area on the weekend of 4/17)
  o  Please call (805) 258-8225 in the evening (until midnight)
From: davis@dauphine.ilog.fr (Harley Davis)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: explosion
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:05:45 GMT
	<1992Mar30.233803.1393@bony1.bony.com>
	<JIME.92Mar30224018@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu>
	<1992Mar31.224106.13802@bony1.bony.com>
	<JIME.92Apr1115147@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu>
Organization: ILOG S.A., Gentilly, France
In-reply-to: jime@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu's message of 1 Apr 92 16:51:47 GMT


In article <JIME.92Apr1115147@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu> jime@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41) writes:

   >
   >   The blowing up of airliners and passengers unrelated to their grievances,
   >   in planes and in airports, is a classic Palestinean tactic.

   I presume that you are referring to the Panam bombing.  The
   Palestinean logic is that Panam is an American airline, thus would be
   a target of maximal political terror in the US public opinion.  The
   US, you know, is Israel's main ally, and supports Israel with weapons
   and money to the tune of about $3 billion/annum.  The PLO is, after
   all, a terrorist organization, and chooses its terrorist targets with
   some discrimination.  They don't attack purely randomly, that would be
   a waste of their capabilities.

What about the French airliner blown up over Chad, killing all 150
people aboard, most of whom were French and Chadian citizens?  Surely
you're not going to claim that France and Chad are major allies of
Israel.

Face it, these guys are just sick mass murderers.  Human life, any
human life, is not on their list of priorities.

-- Harley Davis

PS I don't have access to talk.politics.mideast.  Anyone is free to
repost this there.
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From: sg04@ploni.gte.com (Yechezkal Shimon Gutfreund)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Partial Passover Product List
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:00:44 GMT
Reply-To: sgutfreund@gte.com
Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham MA

In article <ku6o4bINNiaq@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM>, janiceg@marvin.Eng.Sun.COM (Janice Gelb) writes:
|> In article 15880@bunny.GTE.COM, sg04@ploni.gte.com (Yechezkal Shimon Gutfreund) writes:
|> >BTW: Chabad Minhag is:
|> >
|> >No Milchigs (except for children)
|> 
|> A local store here is advertising "Cholov Yisrael kosher l'Pesach" stuff.  
|> I thought Cholov Yisrael was acceptable to Chabad, so I'm confused here.

Background: Given the location of milk production (a Barn) where grain
products are common there is a distinct worry about mixtures occuring.

Answer: Adults avoid milk products altogether as a Chumrah, but there
is nothing wrong with giving children (who tend to be more dependent
on milk products) properly supervised Cholov Yisroel kosher l'Pesach
milk.

Chumras: Take kitnios for example: Askenazim do not eat them because
chumetzdik grains might get mixed in with them. But don't think
the life of Sephardim is any great picnic. The frum ones I know
inspect each grain of rice to make sure it is rice and not something
else. 

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From: MASH@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il (Michael Shimshoni)
Subject: Sanhedrin (the last time IYH!)
Organization: Weizmann Institute of Science, Israel
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 16:21:24 +0300

In: <1992Apr8.002627.26459@cirrus.com>
chrism@cirrus.com (Chris Metcalfe) brings a reference:

>>So let me  propose a compromise.  I will admit  the 'possibility' that
>>there was  a Sanhedrin like body  before the destruction of  the first
>>Temple (I say  possibility, but personally I do not  believe in it for
>>various reasons),  and Shlomo will agree  as he has done,  that during
>>the time described in Esther that body was definitely an
>>
>>Michael Shimshoni
>
>In Midrash Rabba Shemot it is stated that Amiram, the father of Moshe,
>was Av Bet-Din of the Sanhedrin in his day -- meaning that the tradition
>of 70 elders was already functioning at that time.

Please! All  my claim  was from outside  postbiblical sources.   I had
asked to see in  the TANAKH a mention of some  body like the Sanhedrin
functioning continuously.  With all due  respect Shemot Rabba does not
qualify.   I  have   never  denied  that  the   Talmudists  claimed  a
continuity, I just do not buy it as an historical reality.

-- Chris Metcalfe

   Michael Shimshoni
From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Equality again
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:09:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.44483
Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department

In article <3429@tronsbox.UUCP> moskowit@tronsbox.UUCP (Len Moskowitz) writes:
>In article <9204061259.AA20929@relay1.UU.NET>
>MASH@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il (Michael Shimshoni) writes:

>>This brings  us back to the  inequality of the Halakha  as shown here.
>>If  the patient  would have  been the  husband, no  Orthodox Rabbinate
>>would have allowed  a second marriage.  Inequality is  inherent in any
>>rigidly frozen religion.

>Michael, we know you have a relatively secular outlook but that's no
>reason to be so curmudgeonly.  Perhaps there are reasons you and I
>don't understand why G-d allows a man to potentially have more than
>one wife while a woman may only have one husband?  From the very
>little Torah that I've studied, there seem to be some very fundamental
>reasons (which of course you'll reject).

Now I can understand why it may have been necessary in ancient times for
this to be the case, but the social milieu of 2000 CE is quite different
from that of the time of the Temple or before.  

>In any case, in the event of an unhappy marriage or serious
>debilitating illness, the court and the couple can arrange a divorce
>so that the woman can remarry.

THIS problem has been discussed in this group.  If, for example, the
husband was incompetent, the Orthodox interpretation of the divorce 
laws would prevent such a divorce.  This interpretation does not come
from the written Torah, produced in a more egalitarian climate than
the days of the Second Temple and beyond, but from the Oral Law.


-- 
Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
Phone: (317)494-6054
hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Internet, bitnet)  
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Hebrew fonts for Page Maker
From: brecher@husc8.harvard.edu (Jonathan Brecher)
Date: 11 Apr 92 00:33:16
Organization: Harvard Arts and Sciences Computer Services, Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: br042@cleveland.freenet.edu's message of 9 Apr 92 19:48:29 GMT

In article <9204100348.AA11937@relay2.UU.NET> br042@cleveland.freenet.edu writes:
>Does anyone know where I can get Hebrew fonts for Page Maker other than
>from Davkah or Kabalh software?  Perhaps a shareware type.  This is for
>Migdal Torah so $$$$$ unfortunately (like with out fortune $$$$) is an
>object.
 
I've got Shareware PS Type 1 Hebrew fonts, if that'll do you.  Ftp from:
 
(mac version):  mac.archive.umich.edu
                        in mac/system.extensions/font/type.one.fonts/shalom*
(win3 version): cica.cica.indiana.edu
                        in pub/pc/win3/fonts/atm/shalom*
(NeXT version): cs.orst.edu
                        in pub/next/fonts/Shalom*
 
                                        jonathan brecher
                                        brecher@husc.harvard.edu
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