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From: koos@kzdoos.hacktic.nl (Koos van den Hout)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Re: MINIX Frequently Asked Questions (Last Changed: 3 May 1992)
Keywords: info answers
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 21:41:42 MET
Organization: Koos z'n Doos (BBS)

ericb@sierra.com (Eric Blood "intern") writes:

> In the FAQ sheet, it says that you need to set some define to the number
> of sectors and re-compile the system.  Well, I just got Minix 1.5 
> running with my Western Digital RLL controller just fine.  The fdisk
> command lets you specify the number of heads and sectors.
> Am I looking for trouble if I don't set the number like it says in the
> FAQ sheet?

I guess not. I'm running Minix 1.5 now for months on an RLL system. No
problems.

Allright : Almost no problems. Sometimes the drive light goes on and stays on
and F1 shows FS waiting for the harddisk.
But I suspect the 64k cache in the controller to be the reason for this.

                        Grtx. KH


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In article <1992Jul29.172406.29587@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
 torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds) writes:
>
>Having several different code/date-segments doesn't lend itself very
>well to high-level languages (it doesn't even work too well in assembly,
>but there the programmer often knows what he/she is doing).  Thus
>coherent 3.2 and minix don't even try: they keep to one segment, and
>limit all data to 64kB.  You can do a lot in 64kB, but I'd rather miss
>the experience.
>
     
I hate to say it - but back in the old PDP11 days they had overlays.
And learned to like them.
     
And we walked 50 miles to school, uphill, and we didn't have shoes then...
8-)
     
There is some satisfaction in shoehorning the most functionality in to
the smallest space.  The amazing fact that a PDP11 could multitask
with the same 64k of memory that ran CP/M was amazing to me.
     
I grew up with PDP11's and love the fact that RT11 can run foreground
and background tasks (up to 15 background tasks) in a machine with only
64kb of real memory is a fact that some people that haven't had to live
with those restrictions don't understand.
     
Unfortunately, you can't run X in that space, or NFS... Perhaps TCP/IP
though...
     
Bill
     
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Can someone please help me with details of an XT MFM hard disk controller?
I have the port addresses and (I think) the commands and error codes, but
I'm after a little more programming info. I've also got one reference, the
Minix XT driver code, but it's not very well documented.
     
So, anyone know anything about these beasts?
     
BTW: I know the hardware is obselete, but I gain 120 meg for "free" if I
can write a driver for it for Linux, and what's more, the card coexists
quite happily with my IDE and SCSI drives!
     
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Can someone please help me with details of an XT MFM hard disk controller?
I have the port addresses and (I think) the commands and error codes, but
I'm after a little more programming info. I've also got one reference, the
Minix XT driver code, but it's not very well documented.
     
So, anyone know anything about these beasts?
     
BTW: I know the hardware is obselete, but I gain 120 meg for "free" if I
can write a driver for it for Linux, and what's more, the card coexists
quite happily with my IDE and SCSI drives!
     
Pat -- Have a day!
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From: adamd@rhi.hi.is (Adam David)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Modem login
Summary: Can't get the modem to answer
Date: 22 Jul 92 12:05:57 GMT

I am running ST minix 1.5.10.4 and now for the first time am trying to set
up a modem login. The modem dipswitch is set to default no answer (I don't)
want it to answer unless I specifically ask it to). I have modified modem.c
so that it sends the right strings to the modem. The modem never takes the
line offhook when I dial in, despite having tried the commands:
modem -i2 tty2          (it's on tty2) or:
modem -g -i2 tty2       What does that -g actually do?
It occurs to me that it is basically a problem with getty, which spawns a
login without waiting for a connection. I looked at the source and this is
indeed the case, but I am definitely not happy with the other alternative
of polling the tty once a second looking for a connection.

The ST hardware has a ring indicator interrupt. The best solution would
therefore seem to be enabling this interrupt to do something useful in minix
and letting the RING signal wake up the getty process to spawn the login.
Has anybody done this already? What would be the best way of implementing
this?

Also, how do I configure the getty that listens on tty2 to be different
from those that are on tty0 and tty1. Do I need to modify INIT or is there
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From: al@escom.com (Al Donaldson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: GCC 1.37 binaries
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:55:21 GMT
Organization: ESCOM Corporation

A friend picked up the 1.37 GCC stuff from somewhere (probably 
nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil, but he doesn't remember...) and I started 
trying to get GCC to work.  But as listed below, I ran into problems.  
So I sent the following mail to Alan and Richard (listed as authors 
of the the GCC patches) but haven't had a reply yet.

My question is simple.  Have any of you been able to get the
1.37 GCC binaries in the gccbin directory to work on a 386 MINIX
system?  If so, could you send me a listing of your gccbin directory,
the checksums for gcc-as, gcc-cpp, and gcc-ld, and if possible,
the "od -c" output for the first 32 bytes of each of the files.

Thanks,

Al
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|From al Sun Jul 26 20:15:56 1992
|To: awb@ed.ac.uk, richard@aiai.ed.ac.uk
|Subject: MINIX 386 gcc
|
|Alan, Richard,
|
|I'm trying to get your gcc 1.37 port running on my 386 box, but 
|I'm running into some problems.  I've got Bruce Evans' 386 patches 
|installed, and am able to rebuild the system in 32-bit mode.  
|A friend FTP'd your directory from nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil 
|and I went to work.  
|
|But for some reason I can't exec the binaries in the gccbin directory
|(gcc-as, gcc-cpp, gcc-ld).  At first I figured they were gnu a.out
|format, so I ran gcc2minix (which does exec OK..) on them, but 
|gcc2minix gives an error message "Bad magic number 0x10100301".
|So, apparently, the binaries aren't in asld a.out format (otherwise
|I'd be able to exec them from the shell..) and they're not in
|gcc a.out format either.
|
|So I went to the src dirctory, and tried to build gcc-as from
|source.  But bcc chokes on "unsigned int r_pcrel:1;" in a.out.gnu.h,
|so I can't build gas from source, either..
|
|Any ideas?
|
|Al
|al@escom.com
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Can someone please help me with details of an XT MFM hard disk controller?
I have the port addresses and (I think) the commands and error codes, but
I'm after a little more programming info. I've also got one reference, the
Minix XT driver code, but it's not very well documented.
     
So, anyone know anything about these beasts?
     
BTW: I know the hardware is obselete, but I gain 120 meg for "free" if I
can write a driver for it for Linux, and what's more, the card coexists
quite happily with my IDE and SCSI drives!
     
Pat -- Have a day!
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In article <1992Jul29.172406.29587@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
 torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds) writes:
>
>Having several different code/date-segments doesn't lend itself very
>well to high-level languages (it doesn't even work too well in assembly,
>but there the programmer often knows what he/she is doing).  Thus
>coherent 3.2 and minix don't even try: they keep to one segment, and
>limit all data to 64kB.  You can do a lot in 64kB, but I'd rather miss
>the experience.
>
     
I hate to say it - but back in the old PDP11 days they had overlays.
And learned to like them.
     
And we walked 50 miles to school, uphill, and we didn't have shoes then...
8-)
     
There is some satisfaction in shoehorning the most functionality in to
the smallest space.  The amazing fact that a PDP11 could multitask
with the same 64k of memory that ran CP/M was amazing to me.
     
I grew up with PDP11's and love the fact that RT11 can run foreground
and background tasks (up to 15 background tasks) in a machine with only
64kb of real memory is a fact that some people that haven't had to live
with those restrictions don't understand.
     
Unfortunately, you can't run X in that space, or NFS... Perhaps TCP/IP
though...
     
Bill
     
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Can someone please help me with details of an XT MFM hard disk controller?
I have the port addresses and (I think) the commands and error codes, but
I'm after a little more programming info. I've also got one reference, the
Minix XT driver code, but it's not very well documented.
     
So, anyone know anything about these beasts?
     
BTW: I know the hardware is obselete, but I gain 120 meg for "free" if I
can write a driver for it for Linux, and what's more, the card coexists
quite happily with my IDE and SCSI drives!
     
Pat -- Have a day!
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