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From: mtpins@icaen.uiowa.edu (Michael T Pins)
Subject: Re: "You're so vain" - Carley Simon. Who is it about?
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:16:05 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

In article <1992Aug11.201302.10030@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> bur@ultisol.gsfc.nasa.gov (MAC) writes:

>Well I think it is time to ask the experts in a.f.u about this matter.
>The subject line says it all.  So far, people have said Warren Beatty,
>James Taylor, Mick Jagger, and the obligatory "Duh, I though it was about
>me. HAHAHAHA!"
>What the origional poster requested was some sort of proof that Carley
>herself said, at one time or another, that the song was about <insert name here>
->>maybe USA Today should do a poll. get a neat little pie graph....

->>well, my vote is for James Taylor....
->>unofficial count
->> 
->>2 for JT
->>2 for WB
->>1 for mick
->Make that 3 for Warren Beatty.  I think it's about him....

Carly has never said who the song was about.
It certainly wasn't about JT, who she married shortly thereafter.
It was likely either Warren Beatty or Mick Jagger, but as the latter sings
backup vocals on the album, I would doubt it's him.


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From: buskirk@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Randy L. Buskirk)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Yet another 'Who did this song' request....
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:44:20 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard Company, Spokane, Wa.

In rec.music.misc, IO10184@MAINE.MAINE.EDU writes:

    Hi all,

         I recently saw 'Wayne's World' on video and got an urge
    to hear the original version of 'Ballroom Bltiz'....but I
    don't know who did it :(
        If someone who does know could e-mail me the artist I
    would be gratefull.

             Thanks in advance,
                  Pat
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Hi Pat,

I have not had a chance to see Wayne's World yet but I do know that 'Ballroom
Blitz' was on an album by the group Sweet in about 1975. I don't have the 
album any more so I don't have an album name for you.:-(

The Swiss band Krokus (sp?) also did a good version of this song in about the
1985 or 86 time frame.

I hope this helps...

Randy Buskirk - buskirk@hpspkla.spk.hp.com
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From: aa680@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Vern Morrison)
Subject: Re: Bonzo Dog Doo-dah Band
Reply-To: aa680@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Vern Morrison)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 12:57:20 GMT


In a previous article, rob@cwi.nl (Rob van Rooijen) says:

>
>Someone just gave me a tape with music and fun from the Bonzo Dog Dooda Band.
>Does anyone have any informtion about band members etc. Rumours are they are
>the later Monthy Pythons..... Any truth in that?!?

       Sort of.  The main songwriters for the Dogs, Viv Stanshall and Neil
Innes, worked with the Python people for years, especially with their
musical efforts.  For instance, Neil Innes was one of the famed Rutles.

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From: martin@specialix.co.uk (Martin)
Subject: Re: PINK FLOYD : What does she whisper in the background?
Organization: Specialix International, London
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 15:00:18 GMT

ejhupper@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Eric Huppertz) writes:

>>There's been a lot of argument over what she says, but if you listen to
>>a decent CD (ie. not the Capitol release) on decent headphones, it is quite
>>clear that she is saying "I never said I was frightened of dying".

>WHAT?  I had no idea there was more than one release of this CD.  I'm sure
>I have the Capitol release--how do I get a better one?

There's the MFSL disc.  This company searched for the most original masters
they could find and were meticulous about the production of the disc.  It's
made using gold, rather than aluminium, giving (arguably) better pit/trough
definition.  I say arguably - I sure as hell don't want to argue about this.
Just take it from me, this version's a lot better than the Crapitol.  You'll
pay more for the better quality, currently about $25.  Also, note the fact 
that I'm in the UK - we get Pink Floyd on EMI Harvest over here.

>Oh, and something I forgot to mention:  On the very last piano chord on
>that song (The Great Gig in the Sky) there is a noticable fluctuation
>in the sustained tone, as if somebody bumped into the master recorder
>as it was being recorded... Anyone know anything about this?

This is present on all of the versions I possess.  It is unknown whether this
was intentional or not.

Martin
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From: mishae@niksula.hut.fi (Magic Mike)
Subject: Re: MAILINGLIST: Guns N' Roses Mailing List
Followup-To: rec.music.misc
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:24:12

Hi Dave,

 Sorry for replying here on r.m.m, but my mail to you bounced. Could
you add me to the mailing list, or send me a personal reply, so I can
get your proper email-address?

 Thanks a lot!
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From: reisinger@col01.enet.dec.com (Josef Reisinger (Quality software never goes out of style...))
Subject: Re: CONCERT: Concerts in the Rhein-Main area [Germany]
Reply-To: reisinger@col01.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:45:32 GMT


In article <1992Aug19.224532.24755@dutrun2.tudelft.nl>, Sebastian Welton <SWELTON@ESOC.BITNET> writes:
|>
|>28/09 # Blue Oyster Cult - Music Hall, Frankfurt

24/09 # Blue Oyster Cult - Stadthalle, Koeln-Muehlheim

Ich gehe auch hin, mal sehen was das gibt

Gru
/jr
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From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Subject: Re: "You're so vain" - Carley Simon. Who is it about?
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.folklore.urban
Date: 12 Aug 92 07:32:20 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: gators 'r us
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In article <1992Aug11.201302.10030@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> bur@ultisol.gsfc.nasa.gov
(MAC) writes:

> >Make that 3 for Warren Beatty.  I think it's about him....
 i, too, heard it was about warren beatty.
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From: simmons@ittc.wec.com (Garry Simmons)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Lolla II Review: Pittsburgh 8/16
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:15:12 GMT
Organization: Westinghouse Electric Corp., ITTC, Pgh. PA.

Before this mini-review, I should point out I like/listen to all the bands on `
the bill, but don't own piles of CDs from them, so I'm not as familiar with
their song titles as hard core fans. Anyway...

Lush - If you like My Bloody Valentine (I do), you'll like the Lush set. A bit
agressive at times. Mushy mix. It was hard to pick out the different guitar
parts, but overall I liked them. I'll probably buy their CD as a result of their
set.

Pearl Jam - They put on a lively, hard rocking set. Lots of energy onstage. The
crowd loved them. They seem a bit mainstream to me, but it was enjoyable to 
watch. Muddy mix again.

Jesus and Mary Chain - The first half of the set was boring. The second half
was pretty good. Once they got cooking and playing some of their more familiar
material, it got a lot better.

Soundgarden - Extremely disappointing. There were a few good moments when they
really got the sludge grinding, but overall they seemed to want to be somewhere
else. Notable absences, Outshined and Big Dumb Sex. Go figure...

Ice Cube - My first live rap act. The crowd was into it. The PA was pumping. A
good time was had by all.

Ministry - Incredible. We were too far back to really see the stage well, but
the set kicked serious ass. Mosh pits formed all over. A steady steam of 
crushed cups and garbage being thrown all over the place. I thought a riot
was a possibility, but then it leveled off. A great high energy and brutal set.

RHCP - I was disappointed. After getting so pumped up by Ministry, I was really
fired up for the Peppers. The new guitarist just doesn't cut it in my view. He
has chops, but the songs were generally lacking bite. Strange selection of 
material. The flaming headgear at the end was pretty cool though. Flea and
the drummer (Chad Smith?) were great. They gotta get the new guy to loosen up
some though.

Side Shows - The Jim somebody Circus of Scars (or whatever its called) is a
truly sick event. The Torture King must really hate having a day job. Only for
the strong of stomach. I'll never look at a meat skewer (sp?) again without
thinking about this gig...

Overall - A fine way to spend $23. Can't wait till next years show...

Garry Simmons
simmons@ittc.wec.com
From: brendan@otc.otca.oz (Brendan Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Can anybody remember Duncan Browne?
Date: 14 Aug 92 03:03:29 GMT

Duncan Browne released at least one record "The Wild Places" (in 1978).  I
seem to vaguely recall that the title track was quite different from the usual
late 70s fare - a little ambient and emotive.  I think he was from the UK.

Question is - was the album any good?  Was it ever released on CD?  Who the
hell is Duncan Browne anyway?  Did he do anything else, or did he promptly
vanish?  Is the subject matter too old for this newsgroup? :-)

Enquiring minds want to know...

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From: bschlesinger@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Barry Schlesinger)
Subject: Re: Lyric request - for old farts only!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:22:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.002900.15562@dg-rtp.dg.com>, cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy) writes...
>nimouat@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Nikos Mouat) writes: 
> 
>| "There is a house in New Orleans, 
>|  They call the rising sun,
>|  And it's been the ruin of many a poor [boy/girl]
> 
>It's "boy".  Girl?  Is there a version I don't know about?
> 
The song was around long before the Animals.  It's about a young woman 
in a house of prostitution (the rising sun is the red light at the 
door).  The Animals changed it (I guess to match the gender of the 
singer) and lost the point of the song.  Incidentally, the song has 
passed into the traditional area, and so, trying to find the precise 
"right" lyrics has lost its point.
				for myself only
				Barry Schlesinger


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From: caer@iear.arts.rpi.edu (Charlie Figura)
Subject: Re: Lyric request - for old farts only!
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:52:25 GMT

In article <12907@inews.intel.com> sramirez@milos.intel.com (Steve Ramirez) writes:
>Fellow old farts, (or young ones),
>Can someone help me with the last verse of 
>"House Of The Rising Sun" by the Animals?

One foot on the platform, the other's on the train,
I'm going back to New Orleans,
to wear that ball and chain.

(From the Animals Anthology... )

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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.music.bluenote
From: pjb4288@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Pete - Toonatic - Boulay)
Subject: Re: Jeff Porcaro died: let's make record list
Originator: pjb4288@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:16:37 GMT

As a fellow drummer, I eagerly grabbed any track w/ Jeff Porcaro on it
as soon as I could.

His talent will never be forgotten.
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Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Friday, 14 Aug 1992 11:13:03 EDT
From: <STDXU@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Can you write music?

Hallo!

     I'm looking for somebody who can write music to lyrics. Originally what
I wrote was a poem, but now I'd like to get some advice if this could be
a song. Since I have no idea about writing music I wonder whether someone
could try to do it for me. Serious replies will be appreciated.


MARGARET

I remember Toronto where my heart was affected
I remember confidencing in a room where darkness reigned
I remember your noble dark eyes looking at my naked personality
I remember that your make-up consisted of tears
I remember you were whispering into my ears those magic words

Oh! I'd love to experience it all, once again
When the first time you said that you loved me, I showed you my tears
I have never felt so happy before, you are the first of my own
You were tracing my movements, asking for feelings
Trying to open this qeer heart, anxietly expressing your love
And you didn't notice that it is me who can't live without you

Another yellow taxi driving me home, alone
Another casual friend saying to me: tomemos una cerveza*
Another bottle of beer that seems to wipe off my tears
Another time we promise ourselves thst our love will last forever
Another day without you in my sight

Oh! I'm telling myself that it is only a passing phase
When the first time you said that you loved me, I showed you my tears
I have never felt so happy before, you are the first of my own
You were tracing my movements, asking for feelings
Trying to open this qeer heart, anxietly expressing your love
And you didn't notice that it is me who can't live without you

Sometimes life can be so cruel, and no one knows a reason
I'm too young to understand
I thought I was enough mature to handle the problem myself
But I was deadly wrong
And now all I want to say is only to thank you
For saving my love
And I'm happy to know the answer when I ask you
Do you love me?
Do you love me?

* tomemos una cerveza - span. let's have some beer

Thank you for your attention.
Jerzy Marcinkowski.
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From: sjk@kepler.unh.edu (Stephen J Kenny)
Subject: Curve
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:23:01 GMT

We should start a thread about this band. Just heard
"Doppleganger" for the first time and WOW!!!

BTW) Also had a copy of Recoil's latest(Alan Wilder of DM)
and was wondering who that female singer Toni Halliday
was on side two....what a great surprise....

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From: gt6990b@prism.gatech.EDU (MADDALA,VIVEK)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re:  Lyrics to "Hotel California" and their "true" meaning
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:04:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: hydra.65771
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology



Any allegations that "Hotel California" is "satanic" are absurd.
It doesn't take any imagination stretching to realize what the
song is really about.  "Hotel California" is, in fact, an extended 
metaphor describing a DRUG ADDICTION.  Within this extended metaphor
is a series of allusions that can be read on many levels; i.e., like
all allegorical works, this song has elements that can be open to
many interpretations.  I think (this part is my opinion) that Henley
and Frey, the lyricists of the song, perhaps made subtle allusions to 
"satanic" or other religious things to enhance or strengthen the
potency of what they were saying.  I do not find it hard to believe
that they very subtly (and tastefully) personified the drug addiction
as a "satanic" beast-like creature.  But then they also referred to it
in other ways too:  "You can check out any time you like/But you can
never leave..." and "Some dance to remember/Some dance to forget...."

I would like to make a note that, although what I just said sounded
like I was stating facts, most of what I have said is indeed just
opinion.  Like any literary/art work, lyrics can be open to many
different interpretations, none of which can be right or wrong.  Some
may be more believable than others simply because of evidence that is
brought forth to support them.  But, nevertheless, we have to realize
that there are no absolutes here.  There is no right or wrong
interpretation.  The real question at hand, though, is "what did the
lyricists mean when writing the song?"  My answer to this question is
what I have said--about the drug addiction.

If you have any objections, elaborations, etc. to what I have said, 
please post them.

Thanks.

                                - The Tadster


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From: djd7889@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (Douglas J. Deutsch)
Subject: Re: Help with song title
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Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center / Cleveland, Ohio
Date: 12 Aug 1992 08:50 EST  

In article <59612@mimsy.umd.edu>, costello@cs.umd.edu (Lisa A. Costello) writes...
>>In article <9208101925.AA16162@TIS.COM> sas@TIS.COM writes:
>>>
>>>Hi all--
>>>
>>>	A co-worker and I were discussing a song at lunch today, but
>>>could not remember the title or the group.  The only thing we could come
>>>up with was the number 867-5309, and the controversy involved.  Seems
> 
>The song in question is "Jenny, Jenny (867-5309)" by Tommy Tutone.
>I don't remember when it came out though, except that I'm pretty sure
>it was in the late 1980s.  
> 
>I think this was a one-hit wonder. ;)

'867-5309 Jenny' by Tommy Tutone came out in 1982, and yes, it was a one-hit
wonder.....

DJD
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> 
>And there was a controversy about the phone number, which was
>apparently real _somewhere_ in the country, although I think the
>group did check it out first.  Boy did they goof!
> 
>Lisa Costello
> 
> 
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Actually, the music of Eurythmics changes drastically over their career.
They started off using a lot of electronic music, then suddenly turned
very heavy (rockish) with a lot of guitars and drum.  Later they toned
down a bit with the last 2 releases.

Marshal, if you like some recommendation, it would be better to mention
which of their songs you've heard and liked.  I would not recommend the
greatest hits collection as listening to it would subject yourself through
very contrasting musical styles, and some folks (eg. me) find that very
frustrating.  Personally, I'd prefer to listen to each album on its own.

However, if you still want the compilation, try the video collection.
All the videos are well made.  I guess the imagery would be a good
distraction from the style changing problem.


choock
From: js@oasis.icl.co.uk.\ (, Jonathan Smart (7265 3029))
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: ORB live dates?
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:29:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: getafix.9208191729.AA17949



Does anyone know if The Orb will be doing any more live dates in the UK soon?

Cheers

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From: adh@uni-paderborn.de (Andreas de Hair)
Subject: Who sang "The man who would be king" ?
Organization: Uni-GH Paderborn
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:50:51 GMT


Hi there,

I am asking for a friend of mine who is looking for a track that has been 
given to the *1982* European Song Contest Audience which took place in Dublin.
The track is (possibly) named "The man who would be king". Can anybody out 
there get hold of the 1982 European Song Contest Recording in order to get to
know the correct title of the track and the person/group who sang it?

Thanks in advance,
Andreas.

E-Mail: adh@picasso.uni-paderborn.de
From: mmaxwell@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Who was original artist for "Reason TO Believe"?
Date: 21 Aug 1992 22:59:37 GMT
Organization: UC San Diego
Distribution: usa
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In article <chuckr.714434135@cserver> chuckr@cserver.plexus.COM (Chuck
Reisdorf) writes:
>Wilson Phillips did a remake to the song "Reason to Believe".  Does anyone
recall the original, or popular artist who did this song about 10 years ago?
>
Bruce Springsteen, i believe.  From the album "Nebraska" (which,
IMHO, is the best Springsteen you can buy).  The Beat Farmers also
did a version of it on their first album.  Wilson Phillips did a version, 
huh?  I'm not sure that i want to hear it. (Add smileys if you feel it 
necessary)
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 and stapled them to his lower lip" -- Stan Ridgway

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