HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kadie@eff.org (Carl M. Kadie)
Subject: [UPI] "FBI probes computer child porn at Cornell"
Originator: kadie@eff.org
Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:44:53 GMT

Copyright 1992 by UPI. Reposted with permission from the ClariNet
Electronic Newspaper newsgroup clari.tw.computers, et al. For more
info on ClariNet, write to info@clarinet.com or phone 1-800-USE-NETS.

	ITHACA, N.Y. (UPI) -- The FBI is investigating whether a Cornell
University sophomore has transmitted child pornography over computer
bulletin boards, a report said Friday.
	The New York Times said agents this week raided a student's room as
part of an investigation that began Nov. 11, after the administrator of
another bulletin board told the Ivy League university of seeing material
involving sexual exploitation of minors.
	The name of the student had not been released because he had not yet
been charged with any crime.
	Agents said they were checking to see whether the student used
graphics imaging technology to copy the pornographic photos onto
computer files and transmitted them on Netnews, an internationally used
bulletin board.
	The investigation is the third in the past four years centered on
abuse of Cornell's computer system.
	In October, sophomores David Blumenthal and Mark Pilgrim were
sentenced to community service for creating a computer virus that
wreaked havoc on software as far away as Japan.
	In 1988, graduate student Robert Morris Jr. was convicted and fined
$10,000 for launching a computer ``worm,'' which also destroys software
but differs from a virus in that it is self-perpetuating.
	Cornell is located in Ithaca, N.Y., about 160 miles northwest of New
York City.
-- 
Carl Kadie -- I do not represent EFF; this is just me.
 =kadie@eff.org, kadie@cs.uiuc.edu =
Newsgroups: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,comp.admin.policy
From: greeny@eff.org (J S Greenfield)
Subject: Re: [news.admin.misc]  Re: ALERT RE POSTINGS AND CORNELL ACCESS TO ALT.*.*.EROTICA HIERARCHY
Originator: greeny@eff.org
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 04:42:11 GMT

dan@cubmol.bio.columbia.edu (Daniel Zabetakis) writes:

>>ALERT ON POSTINGS TO AND CORNELL ACTION REGARDING
>>ALT.BINARIES.PICTURES.EROTICA
>>
>  First of all, is this a joke? A forgery? Or do you just like sounding
>like a paranoid fool in public?

I seem to recall from last year (when a Mac virus was released by some
Cornell students) that a number of (other) Cornell students complained
that Mr. Lynn had a tremendous tendency to overeact...


>>It has come to my attention that certain pictures encoded as GIF files
>>are circulating on the NetNews newsgroup alt.binaries.pictures.erotica
>>(a.b.p.e) whose transmission may constitute violations of the United
>>States Code regarding sexual exploitation of minors, in particular
>>Section 2252. These pictures depict unclothed young children displayed in
>>a manner that could be construed as constituting sexually explicit
>>conduct as defined in the Code.
>
>    What articles specifically are you refering to? I have asked over and
>over and over for real examples, and none have been forthcoming. I personally
>have seen no images that could be construed as you describe. I don't claim
>to have seen everything posted to that group.

Well, there have certainly been a number of photographs depicting nude girls;
however, most of them have not provoked complaints of "child pornography."
One gif, entitled "RUKO.GIF" has produced many such charges, however.

Based upon a summary of the US child pornography standards, it is plausible
to me that "RUKO.GIF" could be found to constitute "child pornography."
(That particular picture included a close-up of the child's genitalia.)


evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans) writes:


>A point a big fuss was made about 2 years ago about kiddie porn
>on the net.
>These turned out to be pictures scanned from a japanese magazine
>featuring models dressed in school uniform type clothes.
>These models appeared to be under 18 to americans, when in fact they
>were women dressed and attempting to be children.

There have, however, been pictures posted that certainly were of *children*
(though may not have been "child pornography" as defined by US law).

I would guess that the girl in RUKO.GIF was closer to 8 than to 18.


-- 
J. S. Greenfield                                         greeny@top.cis.syr.edu
(I like to put 'greeny' here,                            greeny@eff.org 
but my d*mn system wants a 
*real* name!)                        "What's the difference between an orange?"
Newsgroups: alt.comp.acad-freedom.news
From: pi@wam.umd.edu (Raymond L. Gilbert)
Subject: Re: What does NAGPS stand for?
Organization: Indiana University--Bloomington
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:03:58 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.222108.1773@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu> a_rosati@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:
>Hi y'all!
>
>I was just noticing that the traffic in ALT.GRAD-STUDENT.TENURED had slowed
>to a dead stop, and I just CAN'T imagine that all of us graduate students
>out there have nothing to talk about!

It's not that us grad students have nothing to talk about, it is that
us grad students have time to talk about nothing.  If there is anything
I'd like to see NAGPS do for me, it is to make grad school a less
hair raising time consuming experience. But then again, I suppose if
they succeeded in doing that, it wouldn't really be grad school, now
would it?  Well, I've got to get back to work...

-- 
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| Raymond L. Gilbert       | "...the present rule in computing the circle's  |
| pi@indiana.edu           |  area is entirely wrong..."                     |
| IUB Dept. of Physics     |  - Bill No. 246, Indiana State Legislature, 1897|
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
From: carlson@cwis.unomaha.edu (Brian D. Carlson)
Subject: Re: Maria smiled today
Keywords: Smile, be happy
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:09:58 GMT

SALEM@hauk.hsr.no (Salem, Lazaro) writes:

>In article <SALEM.1.721060481@hauk.hsr.no> SALEM@hauk.hsr.no (Salem, Lazaro) writes:
>>From: SALEM@hauk.hsr.no (Salem, Lazaro)
>>Subject: Maria smiled today
>>Keywords: Smile, be happy
>>Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 14:34:41 GMT
>>Today my 1 month old little girl smiled to her mother (I don't know why to 
>>her and not to me) for the first time in her entire life.
>>
>>Don' worry.... be happy!... tra la la la la la  
>>
>>(only if they let you!)
>>
>>Lazaro (El emir itinerante en los paises nordicos)

>I think the previous message was really nice.
>Specially because the same thing happened to me today.
> 
	My wife and I don't have kids yet (that's not the *good*news* I
can hardly wait until we do), but I was fortuane enought about a year
ago to witness my landlords little girl take her first steps on her own.
The mother was there, and I was looking right at her face when it
happened. I'll never forget the satisfied look on a moms face when she
sees her child take first steps ;-)

	Congrats!

Newsgroups: alt.good.news
From: Martin A Laster <mlaster@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Write a short story
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:14:59 GMT


This is for all you creative story writers.  Let's see how well you can write.

If you could create a character for you to be for only one night at your
favorite night club, what would you think would happen that night at that
club.  Explain in detail the following;
 
	1) your character (i.e. employee, user)
	2) your night at the club (i.e. things you did, people you met)
  
Please keep it as realistic as possible, but also creative as possible.
This is for a study that I am doing for a night club owner who is planning
to open a new club.

Send all replies to this post to vlusane@magnusug.acs.ohio-state.edu

Have Fun !!!!!!!!!

Thank you
From: carlson@cwis.unomaha.edu (Brian D. Carlson)
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
Subject: Re: yeah....
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:56:56 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

stewahd@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:

>The world is a very colorful place...:)

	We got a lot of rain in the MidWest this Fall, and I've been
told that it is the reason that the leaves are especially vibrant this
season. Whatever the reason, it has been an exceptionally brilliant
display of God's awesome creation!
From: tien58@cattell.psych.upenn.edu (Michelle Tien)
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
Subject: trade-offs that turn out okay
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:01:39 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


Even though I have tons of stuff due this week (papers, programs,
presentations), last night I took time out to go on a hayride in the
country with my boyfriend ... and we saw a shooting star!
From: v115r4q5@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Perry M Jowsey)
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
Subject: No good news
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:53:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


  Ever since November 3, 1992, there has been no good news for me or for America
I imagine it will be some time before good news rains down on any of us, and it 
was a shame to see voters get tricked into voting for a con man like Bill 
Clinton.  To locate this bad news, one only has to look at Clinton's plan for 
America as well as his record in Arkansas.  Remember the last Democrat adminis-
traion- inflation sky high, as well as interest rates and gas prices.  Also 
keep in mind it has been the democrats that got America involved in World War I
and World War II, as well as Korea and Vietnam.
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
From: esquire@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Scott C. Kramer)
Subject: it's a good time
Keywords: hahahaha
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:09:03 GMT

 I finally got my life back together..

Scott
The Esquire
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
Subject: <none>
From: gallo@mvx36.csata.it
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:22:54 +0100
Reply-To: gallo@mvx36.csata.it
Organization: TECNOPOLIS CSATA, Bari, Italy
From: kam@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
Subject: No more exams - YAY!
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:04:35 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

Well I never have to sit a single exam again in my life unless I choose to and
that feels absolutely wonderful.

One minor hurdle in my life has been achieved!

Karen.
From: stewahd@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
Subject: yeah....
Date: 15 Nov 92 17:53:41 CST
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

The world is a very colorful place...:)
From: tien58@cattell.psych.upenn.edu (Michelle Tien)
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
Subject: a breath of fresh air...
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:49:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In this senior year of college, with all its Wharton cut-throat
competitiveness in the struggle to get the best (or, in this economy, any)
job, somebody smiled and said to me today that I shouldn't worry, because 
"America needs all the bright minds it has."

:-)
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
From: latarra@camelot.bradley.edu (Lisa Ehren)
Subject: Re: No good news
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:08:32 GMT

Good news to me is that I don't have to listen to Republicans if I don't
want to.
--
He got up from the couch and stared out the window at a far-off place
inside himself that she couldn't see.

Fuzzies for anyone who wants them - New shipments every Thursday.
From: sjsmith@cs.umd.edu (Stephen Joseph Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
Subject: No good news
Date: 22 Nov 92 00:26:01 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Maryland at College Park


  Ever since November 3, 1992, there has been no good news for me or for all th
e rest of the people who post in greater-than-80-column lines.  I imagine
it will be some time before good news rains down on any of us, and it was a
shame to see blatant American Republican partisan bitterness posted without
a 'usa' distribution.  To locate this bad news, one only has to look at
Bush's record in America as well as the record of Reagan.  Remember the
last 12 years of Republican presidents- homelessness going from an
assailable problem to a fact of life.  Also keep in mind that it was the
Democrats who got America involved in World War I and World War II, because
for some reason they didn't want Germany to conquer the world.  

[No insult to modern-day Germans intended.]
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
From: harkema@phil.indiana.edu (Henk Harkema)
Subject: your country needs you
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 04:42:06 GMT

 Just got a postcard from my SO back in the
 Netherlands saying `your country needs you',
 but I think it is her who needs me.

 Henk.

Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
From: Andrew McCallum <andrewm@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Uh, hi.
X-To: ALL
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:41:00 GMT

    Hmm.. Maybe I should elaborate on the previous message.

    Hi.  I'm Andrew.


    A bit more?  Ok.



    If anyone here reads NaNet-Teen, you've probly heard of me.  I've been
looking for a Usenet teen-like chat newsgroup for about a year and a half
now, and hey I found one!  Well, almost, since I've seen messages here from
people in their 30's.

    So hey.  This is my intro message.

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    .sig's are fun,                     \ andrewm@zooid.guild.org
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From: hfrg@cs.mcgill.ca (Peter T. H. Choi)
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
Subject: Re: DIR/NEW
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:24:50 GMT
Organization: SOCS - McGill University, Montreal, Canada

In article <1992Nov13.183041.1@indyvax.iupui.edu> harvey@indyvax.iupui.edu writes:
>In article <farenebt.721619142@craft.camp.clarkson.edu>, farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Bri "Droopy" Farenell) writes:
>> cjones@vax.clarku.edu writes:
>>
>>>Hi Eric,  exactly where is Ball State University?  And what field of
>>>psychology are you majoring in?
>>
>> I believe Ball State is in Ohio.
>
>I believe you are wrong.  Ball State is in Muncie, Indiana.

Let's ask Eric.

Eric where is BSGU? Thanks.

				Pete

				
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From: toney_cd@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
Subject: Hello
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:21:27 EST
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC

     Hello. My name is Dale Toney and I am 18 years old. I am a student at 
Lenoir-Rhyne College in Hickory, NC. I am posting to this because I am a
 Deaf ed./regular elementary ed. major. I love working with kids. I have worked
with kids at churchs and such for several years. 
     Someone said something in the past articles about liking The lion, the 
witch, and the wardrobe. I the books of Narnia. I liked them as a child.
But as a older person I love them even more.
     Some of my interests include: nintendo, computers, sign-language, working
 with kids, church, Bible study, writing leters, and singing.
     If anyone would like to have a pen-pal or if anyone has any questions
that they would like to ask me, you can post it directly here or mail me
 at Dale Toney
LRC Box 8447
Hickory, NC 28603        or    Toney_cd@alice.lrc.edu
                                            Thanks,
                                   In his service,
                                Dale Toney
__________________________________________________________
|  "Seek ye first the kingdom of God and its rightousness,|
|   and all these things shall be added unto you."        |
|                                                         |
|                            May God Bless You!!!         |
|                          toney_cd@alice.lrc.edu         |
|                                                         |
|_________________________________________________________|
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Policies
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:45:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.230630.17851@zooid.guild.org> Andrew McCallum <andrewm@zooid.guild.org> writes:
)    Could someone give me a quick rundown of the policies in this newsgroup,
)perticularly pertaining to Topics and Lauguage.
)
)    I don't want to make an ass of myself before getting to know some people
)here. :)

Usenet is an anarchy.  On an unmoderated group, you can post what you like.
This is an alt group, where you are even more free to speak... 

-- 
"What? Over? Did you say it's over? Nothing's over, till we decide it is! 
 Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!" --John Belushi
hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu             _V_a_l_h_a_l_l_a BBS, 217-352-3682, WWIV4.21, 14.4k
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
From: Andrew McCallum <andrewm@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Full House isn't THAT bad when compared to...
X-To: KAREN PRESTEMON
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:16:00 GMT

From ren@Turing.ORG (Karen Prestemon)
>let us read and watch whatever we wanted.  I went to Catholic school
>(unfortunately) and I had friends who couldn't read books from the
>school library without prior approval from their parents.  I thought
>that was really stupid, personally.  That's at least one thing I

    Did they obey?  I wouldn't.

    Like I do anyways.

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From: bigbro@netlink.cts.com (Kenneth Sullivan)
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
Subject: Re: New Topic:- Armageddon or The End Of The World
Keywords: Armageddon
Date: 15 Nov 92 21:05:29 GMT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

psains@ibis.ru.ac.za (Paul Sainsbury) writes:

> In article <3HF6TB2w165w@netlink.cts.com> bigbro@netlink.cts.com (Kenneth Sul
> 
> >hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes:
> 
> >> In article <JH1ZTB6w165w@netlink.cts.com> bigbro@netlink.cts.com (Kenneth 
> >> )Oh yeah, Nostradoms said the world was going to end like a week or two 
> >> )ago, I remember that..hmmm when did Cayce say the world was going to end?
> >> 
> >> Michel du Notredame:
> >> 
> >> The year 1999 and seven months,
> >> the king of terror descends from the sky.
> >> The third Antichrist, soon annihilated,
> >> but his bloody war lasts 27 years.
> >> 
> >> (that's from memory... possibly inaccurate.)
> >> (no, i don't believe in any of this.)
> 
> >so who would be the first two Antichrists? hmmmm
> 
> Well the first was Napoleon, he was mentioned by name? and his death was 
> also described.  
> 
> The Second was Hitler, he was also described and mentioned by name.
> 
> But neither of them really were Antichrists, there could be much better 
> examples of Antichrists. (I think some one mentioned Stalin, or one of those 
> people as a better Antichrist)  BUT never the less those are the names he 
> mentioned!
> 
> From
>   Paul
> --
> Paul Sainsbury - St Andrews College, Grahamstown, South Africa
> Internet: psains@ibis.ru.ac.za                 Phone: +27 [0]461 23872
>     uucp: ..!uunet!m2xenix!quagga!ibis!psains

Napleon? geez, I could think of several people a lot worse than him.  At 
least he did not slaughter his own people, just other countries people. 
but then again, who hasn't?  Oh well  maybe that big earthquake that is 
supposed to happen over here will split the world into too...or maybe 
Cayce is full of it

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Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
From: krice@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Rice)
Subject: Re: Policies
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 02:23:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.230630.17851@zooid.guild.org> andrewm@zooid.guild.org (Andrew McCallum) writes:
>    Could someone give me a quick rundown of the policies in this newsgroup,
>perticularly pertaining to Topics and Lauguage.
>
>    I don't want to make an ass of myself before getting to know some people
>here. :)

Well I haven't heard of any policies of any type.  I don't think this
group has a moderator...does it?  I would say just about any topic
goes, and use language that you would deem appropriate.  I know I
personally don't have any problem with swearing or such, but that sure
doesn't mean other people don't.  So if you are going to go and rip on
people, etc., it would probably be wise to keep it in the mail.  Just
my two cents.

Ken
--
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Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
Subject: Re: Full House isn't THAT bad when compared to...
From: bigbro@netlink.cts.com (Kenneth Sullivan)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 15:34:06 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

chamber@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com (Craig Chamberlain) writes:

> In article <TJ1ZTB7w165w@netlink.cts.com> bigbro@netlink.cts.com (Kenneth Sul
> >da@coombs.anu.edu.au (Daniel Austin) writes:
> >
> >> 
> >> I can live with "Full House", even though it is a mindless "cutsie-cutsie"
> >> "look-at-the-little-darlings" comedy.  In fact, at least Full House has
> >> the benefit of being well made, professionally done.
> >> 
> >> If you think Full House is bad, then you have never been subjected to the
> >> excrutiatingly un-funny, mindless crap that is Canada's biggest embarrasme
> >> 
> >> 	"You Can't Do That On Television"
> >> 
> >
> >Yes, "you can't do that on television is the most inane, dump, 
> >repetitive, spalstick, obvious stupid show I have ever seen, no offense 
> >to anyone that likes it of course
> 
> 
> Hey!  I *like* YCDTOT!  At least the earlier episodes with Christine
> and Alasdair.  I haven't seen the show in a long time.  :-(
> 
> Another show Canada gave us, which generally was very good, was:
> 
>      "Degrassi High" (and "Degrassi Junior High")
> -- 
> (My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer.)
> Craig Chamberlain, Software Engineer, Applicon Schlumberger
> Ann Arbor, Michigan  chamber@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com  (313) 995-6310

Hey, I said I did not want to insult anyone who watched it, sorry if I 
did.......the best thing I have seen come from Canada(t.v. shows that is) 
is Kids in the Hall...top o' de line

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Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
From: Andrew McCallum <andrewm@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Ages of People here!?
X-To: BRIDGET INGHAM
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:20:00 GMT

From biddy@ping.actrix.gen.nz (Bridget Ingham)
>Hi, My name's Bridget and I'm 12. Just wanted to let you know.

    12?  Boy, I didn't even know that 12 year olds used the Usenet.

    Hmm...

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Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
From: gchen@sloth.Reed.Edu (Mark Aranedes Jin'lewood Chen)
Subject: Re: Ages of People here!?
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:34:38 GMT

In article <qrv1nwq@rpi.edu> liebea@vccnw07.its.rpi.edu (Adam Fred  
Lieberman) writes:
> Here is a list of the people posting to alt.kids-talk whose ages are  
available
> to me:
> Mark Aranethes Jinglewood Chen  gchen@sloth.Reed.Edu         19
actually, my address is just gchen@reed.edu
sloth was just the comp that i was using at the time
mark
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk