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From: rsahu@triton.unm.edu (Raikanta Sahu)
Subject: Madhuri Dixit in Graduate School
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 20:58:34 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: unm


Forwarded message : 

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-- THOSE NOT INTERESTED IN MADHURI DIXIT'S AFFAIRS, IGNORE THE FOLLOWING --

Hi:
        Famous Hindi Film actress MADHURI DIXIT has been admitted to the
Graduate Program in Landscape Architecture at Texas A&M University. She is
expected to be here on campus soon as her program begins this Fall. By the
way, she happens to be the topper of her batch that graduated from Parle
College, Bombay (other details are unknown).

        The source of this news is the local INDIA NET here at Texas A&M,
College Station campus. 

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End of forwarded message. 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD))
Subject: Re: May I suggest the Crick virus?
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 04:09:41 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.120458.8807@uoft02.utoledo.edu> pvittal@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
>
>WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE GET THESE TWO BUFFOONS OFF THE NET?
>NOT ONLY ARE THEY DISPLAYING THEIR IMMATURITY TO THE ENTIRE READERSHIP, BUT
>THEY ARE ALSO MISUSING THE NET. I DONT THINK THE NAME "SOC. CULTURE. INDIAN"
>APPLIES TO THIS NEWS GROUP ANY MORE
>
>pradeep


You braying donkey.  It is only because you have nothing of interest to add
to this discussion that you want it terminated.  If you knew anything on the
subject of viruses you would see the benefit that this has.  AIDS, caused
by a retrovirus, is a tremendous health problem for India also.  The main
route of infection is through ignorance.  If your nanosecond attention
span were longer, you would have learned from our postings that:

	1.  AIDS is caused by HIV, of the lentivirus subfamily of
		retroviruses.
	2.  HIV is different from HTLV I and II, which are oncogenic
		(tumor causing) retroviruses, a separate subfamily.
	3.  CD4 T cells are infected by HIV, which enters the cell after
		binding to the CD4 cell-surface protein.
	4.  Mature T cells are divided into two groups based on their
		mutually exclusive expression of the surface glycoproteins
		CD4 and CD8.
	5.  HIV rapidly mutates its envelope glycoproteins due to the lack
		of a 3'-5' exonuclease (proofreading) function in the viral
		reverse transcriptase.
	6.  HIV enters the cell with an RNA genome, which is copied into DNA
		and integrated into the host chromosome.
	7.  PCR, a powerful molecular biology technique, can be used to
		identify variants of the virus, and is also applicable to
		forensic medicine, eclipsing RFLP analysis and blood testing
		in its sensitivity.
	8.  EBV also integrates into the chromosome, and may cause Burkitt's
		lymphoma if the appropriate chromosomal translocation occurs.
		EBV however, is not a retrovirus, and its M.O. is different.

Had you payed attention, you would have learned of mutation analysis of the 
insulin receptor, cell types of the CNS, and the origins of mutagenesis.
Maybe from now on you will read with an open mind.  Perhaps you may learn
something of value that will protect you from AIDS.  Maybe you could even
enlighten others when you return to India so that the rate of HIV infection
will decrease.

If you choose to ignore the education that we are providing to readers of the 
net, then that is your choice; perhaps ignorance becomes you.  You also have
the option of creating a "kill" file so that these pearls of wisdom fall on
your deaf ears.  If you wish to continue your crusade for censorship, and 
against free speech, then go volunteer to work with Tipper Gore.

Ed
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gauri@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Gauri Pavate)
Subject: Re: Amnesty Report on Left Front Govt. in Bengal
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:24:51 GMT

kuntal@algol.cs.umbc.edu (survivor) writes:

>>	I counted these figures from the appendix in the AI report
>>which provides a summary of all the 415 deaths.  However, the above
>>numbers total to 413.  I'm not sure why the appendix misses 
>>out two cases.

>could be Gujarat ?


>kuntal


		Good guess! Maybe.
			
				Gauri.



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.culture.us.asian-indian,soc.culture.asian.american
From: yung@r-node.gts.org (Amos Yung)
Subject: Re: Family values and the West.
Keywords: Marriage, Family, Industrial, West.
Organization: Public Access UNIX Information System
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 02:43:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.183847.29420@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> c60a-zg@volga.Berkeley.EDU (Martin Guerrero-LabA) writes:
>Yes, your comment on family values is true.  
>
>The Family and Family values are indeed declining, esp. in the west.  In
>fact, many movements are NOT CONDUCIVE to strong families.  
>

The term "declining" seems highly subjective. Call it "changing" would be 
much more objective. Personally, I think it is changing for the better.




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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: wes4@pyuxd.uucp (25854-stanley)
Subject: Question re. U.S. citizenship
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: national
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 21:21:21 GMT

Hi people:
	I'm looking for information on how long it takes for 
citizenship papers to be processed, and who the authorities are
that I can call to ask for an acknowledgement of reciept of the
application. I'd rather not call the Newark office of 
Naturalization, because of their notorious reputation for 
courtsey and a helpful attitude, if a live person can be reached via
telephone, that is. But if there is some other place I can call, I'd
love to know.
	If anyone can cue me in, I'd be very appreciative.
	Thanks a mil.,
			Wendell
From: vganesan@reed.edu (The Phoenix)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Changing role of women: A woman's perspective
Date: 24 Jul 92 05:31:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Jul24.053106.21529
Distribution: world, smitra@sophia.smith.edu
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon

In article <1992Jul24.025115.20991@sophia.smith.edu> smitra@sophia.smith.edu (Sramana Mitra) writes:
>
>>> Even though I don't feel threatened by the "new" Indian woman in 
>>> any way, I feel particularly discomfited by all this pre-marital
>>> and extra-marital stuff. I feel that this surely is one of the 
>>> undesirable areas where our women are trying to mimic the West. 
>>
>>I don't like the generalization you make. What makes you think that women
>>who have pre-marital/extra-marital relationships are doing it to mimic
>>anybody, whoever that is? How do you know, that they are not married to 
>                           ---------------------------------------------
>>sterio-typical men, with primitive convictions, who stifle their existence,
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>suffocate their creativity, and make them feel DEAD?
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
>>you feel DEAD, then get rid of him, divorce him. What is the point in
>>having him as a husband and at the same time getting involved in an
>>extra marital relationship ? Does not extra marital relationship display
>
>Yes, sounds fine. My main objection was to extra-marital relationships
>being due to a mimicry of the western women's lib movement. I think I made it
>clear in my post, that I do NOT support extra-marital relationships.
                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Wait a second, accuse me of being naive, but could you tell me
what's wrong with extra-marital relationships, or rather why
you don't support extra-marital relationships.

Say you are in love with the most considerable and understanding
man/woman in the world, and you get married. It later turns out 
that your sex life is a wet cracker, what's wrong with getting just
the sex part somewhere else. I mean sex could be just a physical action
not necessarily a culmination of your love as one nettor put it.

Even masturbation after all is making love with oneself, that
could technically be extra-marital would'nt you say ;-)

The Phoenix 

>All I am trying to say is, that, people may have their reasons... it's
>not as simple as mimicing some other culture.
>
>Sramana


-- 
  The Greatest burden in the world is to have              The Phoenix
   a great potential.                                      Reed #252
                     Linus from "Peanuts"                  Reed College
                                                         Portland, OR-97202
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayana)
Subject: Re: Regarding RAW-Mossad Nexus to Fight Terrorism
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:39:42 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.201544.1204@u.washington.edu> ngrjn@milton.u.washington.edu (V Nagarajan) writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.185026.10827@news.uiowa.edu> abdutta@icaen.uiowa.edu (Abhijit Dutta) writes:
>>        It is a very heartening news!  Specially, in view of my  
>>        prediction, in the wake of resumption of diplomatic ties
>>        between the two countries, about the impending cooperation in
>>        the domain of counter-terrorism activities.  
>>
>	This would indeed be good if, thru better intelligence and
>	organization with the Israelis' help, the back of terrorism were
>	broken, the police atrocities were stopped (in Punjab) and 
>	the innocent civilians were spared and were free to resume 
>	their normal lives.
>
>							- Nagarajan

Unfortunately, this does not solve the problem! There must be a basic
sense of decency and of accountability on the part of the police, which
comes only when the police are trained to handle weapons in self-defense
alone. Further they should recognize that they are not the judges and that
punishment is given by a judicial authority.

In Northern Ireland, the British Govt uses carefully controlled counter
terrorist measures including ambushing the terrorists in their hideouts.
When such ambushes do take place (the equivalent word disappearances),
substantial evidence is garnered a priori to justify the ambush, and
more importantly to justify the same in a court of law! Even in such
ambushes, the special armed force presents a civilized face by conducting
the ambush to capture than to kill! 

No amount of intelligence training can help, if the fellow conducting the 
ambush is untrained in the legalities of citizenship, even if that citizen 
were a dreaded terrorist!
...kt
From: akc@research.att.com (abhijit kumar choudhury)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Queries about H-4 visa
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:37:54 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.indian
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

Fellow netters,
        I'd like to get some information on obtaining H-4 visas. I got
married recently and my wife, who has a full TA-ship to UC Santa
Barbara was refused an F-1 visa ( she applied before getting married)
from Calcutta. The visa officer in Calcutta, Katherine Burke, has been
refusing visas to students left and right - in the 2 days I was at the
Consulate not a single applicant got an F-1 visa (out of about 20
applicants).  Anyway, my wife is now planning to apply for an H-4
visa.

1)  Has anyone had the experience of having a H-4 visa application
refused ? If so, could you please suggest what we could do to increase
the chances of obtaining a visa ?

2) Is it possible to hop over to Canada or Mexico and have an H-4 visa
converted to an F-1 visa by showing the I-20 or does one have to go
back to India ( Calcutta, in this case) to make the change ?

3) Do I ( the H1-B visa-holder) have to be present for her to apply
for an H-4 visa ? What documents are required and what are recommended
?

4) If the H-4 application is refused ( and that fact stamped on the
passport - my wife already has one stamp from her earlier F-1 denial )
is there any way to go to Madras or Bombay to apply ?

5) ANy experiences with H-4 visas are welcome - please send me email -
I'll summarize for the newgroup.

Thanks !
        Abhijit Choudhury
        akc@allegra.att.com


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Room No. 3C-440A                        Fax. # : (908) 582 5809
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Room No. 3C-440A			Fax. # : (908) 582 5809
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh)
Subject: Re: West Bengal: Communists out, ? in
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:29:45 GMT

In article <84241@netnews.upenn.edu>, sarkar@grip.cis.upenn.edu (Nilanjan Sarkar) writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.173453.23182@menudo.uh.edu> mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU writes:
>>>Your note in the first place was an exercise in futulity, and you knew  
>>>that very well.  It is another instance of Bengali pseudo-intellectualism.  
>>>We want to do a lot of things, but we know we are uncapable of achieving  
>>>most of them, because we are unwilling to make the needed sacrifice and I  
>>>think that it is nothing unusual. Most of us are torn between the need for  
>>>a financially smooth and apparently luxurious life and the sublime urge to  
>>>acknowledge our social responsibility. 
>>>I would like to know, what you are doing in order to start the so called  
>                        --------------------------------------------------
>>>'movement'? If one person at a time is the basis of your concept, let it
>  -----------  
>>>start from you.--- Aditi 
>
>
>>Yes of course. I am booking the first flight out of this country, right
>                -------------------------------------------------
>>after graduation.
>>Arindam
>
>
>And then, the 'movement' will start automatically ?!
>Or, your going back to India is the 'movement' ?
>
>-Nilanjan
>
The movement is there all over the world. Yes : Bahai faith again. See if
I don't say anything about it you don't understand. If I say something you
get irritated (-:. Anyway the movement is already there in India, even without
Bahai faith; if you cared to read the article "Where are we going?" posted
by some kind soul earlier.
Arindam

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: nkramesh%harpo.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Nanda Ramesh)
Subject: Re: Are we an intolerant people?
Date: 26 Jul 92 11:32:04 MDT
Keywords: India, Youth, Intolerance.
Organization: University of Utah

In article <1992Jul25.195608.24788@usl.edu>, sgs1679@usl.edu (Sudhindranath Sira G) writes:

[incident deleted...]

|> * Is this an isolated incident or have any of you
|>   experienced/witnessed/heard of such incidents ?

No. I can relate a similar one.

1991 August. On a night bus to tirupathi from bangalore.

I was travelling with my parents. It was a package tour, so
there were mostly families. There was a group of 5-6 students
also, probably taking this trip after finishing their final
year exams ( from what I could make out ).

They were loudly talking even after the lights were out. But trouble
started when they started smoking inside the bus at around 10pm.
As my mother feels nauseated with cigarette smoke in a closed
atmosphere, I requested the person sitting next to me ( with
a please ) to stop smoking as my mom was not feeling OK. This guy
was ok..and stopped. But the others did not like somebody telling
them what to do. They urged this guy to smoke and started blowing
more smoke. They loudly started asking others whether they wanted
a smoke ...etc. I kept quiet as I realized arguing woudn't get me
anywhere. But the bus had families with kids etc...and the others
( one man especially ) started a fight. It nearly came to blows.
The students never relented through out the trip and never
apologized. I do beleive that they thought they were right
in smoking inside the bus in spite of the complaints.

|> * If it is indeed happening often, what's the reason for
|>   our youths becoming so intolerant ? Where exactly did
|>   things go wrong ?


This was something I also couldn't figure out. I just coudn't
understand what exactly made them so adamant when the whole
bus was telling them to stop smoking. It's not a question
of morality but just plain decency, something they could have
faced themselves from my stand point. Wonder what they would
have done then?

nanda

-- 
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University of Utah,	because the sex part               \---/
Salt Lake City.		  always get's in the way.	    |#|
nkramesh@cs.utah.edu          - "when harry met sally"	     V
From: prabhak@cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar)
Subject: Re: Olympics Opening Ceremony
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 02:46:42 GMT

Deepak Srivastava  writes:
>
>turfs in India ? No. Because like in cricket the real talent
>and the contributions to the national lavel game does come
>from small towns, private clubs, district and state level
>college competitions, and finally colony level play grounds.
>How many universities, colleges, local clubs and small and
>medium townships have astro turf covered playing facilities ?
>None. And that is what Bob Costas may be was refering to in his
>comments.
>
>regards..          Deepak

So true. While literally he may have been wrong, in spirit he
is on the money. We don't have appropriate facilities in India
not the encouragement that is due to sports and arts. To raise
a major fuss about a comment is to miss the whole point that
Indians, though may be highly skilled and all, are not properly
equipped to win world class competitions.

Satya Prabhakar
From: std2037@if.uidaho.edu (Alok Shukla)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Sholay, Magnificent Seven,etc...
Date: 28 Jul 1992 21:50:14 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


1.)Yes Sholay can be called an Indian remake of Magnificent Seven (though it
    had only 'magnificent two'), just like Maginificent Seven was an American
    remake of the Japanese movie Seven Samurai.

2.) Sholay depicted about as much gun-sliging culture of the West, as 
    Magnificent Seven depicted the sword waiving culture of Japan. The point
    I am trying to make is that even though all these three movies shared a  
    common theme, their plots were tightly knit around the local cultures.

3.) I confess to watching Sholay six times -- twice in movie halls in India, 
    and four times on video in US. Now there are two possibilites, either 
    I am suffering from Alzheimer's (sp?) disease, or may be the movie was
    so darn good. I submit to you that there probably are a lot of people 
    in India who haven't seen the movie even a single time, but there are
    very few people who have just seen it once -- if you saw it once, you
    simply had to see it again. Actually Sholay ran uninterrupted in the
    same movie theater in Bombay for six years, and it is listed in the  
    Guiness Book of World records for that. I also read that both the first 
    and the last shows (six years later) were housefull.  

  --Alok Shukla
From: KPS1@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Illiterates littering SCI (ref:alt.culture.kerala)
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:59:12 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

What's 100% literacy got to do with having a more erudite newsgroup; afterall i
t is the literates who write the articles, isn't it ? Anyhow, go for it PaulChe
m, vganesan etc..... I'm for it.
                                         KP
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From: sunjain@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (mera bharat mahan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Olympics Opening Ceremony
Date: 26 Jul 1992 21:29:13 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

In <26JUL199217032359@rosie.uh.edu> eleea48@rosie.uh.edu (Thomas, Thomas) writes:

>It was a great shock to me to hear the NBC commentator describe India
>during the opening ceremonies as a "poor nation, without synthetic playing
>surfaces".
>I know for a fact that in at least two places(Bangalore and Delhi),there
>are synthetic playing surfaces.

In Delhi itself, both Shivaji Stadium and National Stadium have astro-turf
for field hockey. There is also one in Chandigarh.


>If commentators of national networks make such obnoxious comments, where
>does this leave us?
>As  the Olympics Opening Ceremonies, is one of the most widely watched
>events,this will surely leave a pathetic image of India in the eyes
>of millions of American viewers. It also goes to show that people still
>regard India as a poor underdeveloped nation.
>I wonder when this will change ?


sunil jain.
From: debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Indian sleuth says Mossad trained more than 100 detectives
Date: 26 Jul 92 19:14:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul24.153828.6079@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, 
gnreddy@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (G.Narotham Reddy) writes...
> 
>...... (stuff deleted) ..... 
>I cannot disclose his whereabouts.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  WHY BRING YP THE MATTER IN THE FIRST PLACE ???
> 
>Narotham

- deb chatterjee
(a good samaritan)