HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bergerson@cvdv79.mayo.edu (Chad D. Bergerson)
Subject: Re: KAL computer rankings and predictions
Reply-To: bergerson@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Clinic, Rochester, MN
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 21:12:19 GMT


->>---- WEEK 16 predictions
->  *Kansas_City		at NY_Giants
->  Tampa_Bay		at *San_Francisco
->  Buffalo		at *New_Orleans
->  *Houston		at Cleveland
->  Minnesota		at *Pittsburgh
->  New_England		at *Cincinnati
->  Phoenix		at *Indianapolis
->  LA_Rams		at *Green_Bay
->  Washington		at *Philadelphia
->  Chicago		at *Detroit
->  *San_Diego		at LA_Raiders
->  Seattle		at *Denver
->  NY_Jets		at *Miami
->  *Dallas		at Atlanta
->
->I wish I had a way to tell the computer O'Donnell isn't playing for
->Pittsburgh.


It wouldn't matter anyways.  They're DEAD meat.
Go Vikes, too bad Pack.


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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN P. GLORIA)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 20:19:11 GMT

In article <jggoslin.724276333@vela> jggoslin@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Whiplash Smile) writes:
>Is this annoying anyone else but me?
>
>I'd like to think it's not just me that hates it when an article gets
>posted 50 bizzillion times.  Mind you they aren't different... THEY
>ARE EXACTLY THE SAME!  Oh well... it might just be me.
>
>Whiplash Smile
>

Yeah, very fucking annoying! The FOOTBALL GODS don't like
it.

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 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
	"You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination
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From: Frank Bilotti <frank@wanda.princeton.edu>
Subject: Re: Aikman admits to fumble?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7537ECC4701700D@rambo.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
X-Xxdate: Tue, 15 Dec 92 12:23:40 GMT
Organization: Geology Dept, Princeton Univ
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:21:54 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.203543.25982@microsoft.com> Rick Schaut,
richs@microsoft.com writes:
>In this particular case, Aikman had started to throw the ball, pulled up,
>and the ball came lose.  But the ball went _backwards_.  Now, anyone
>contending that this should have been ruled an incomplete pass needs to
>come up with an explanation for the apparent violation of the laws of
>physics that their contention implies.


As I have said in other places, I don't know if it was a fumble (the
camera angle was bad).  However, in response to Rick, I have heard others
suggest that it hit a lineman's facemask then bounced back in the
direction that it came... This is a tough way to argue against the call
though.  Your point is well taken, but it is still possible that the
backward motion of the ball was not caused by Aikman's hand, in which
case it would be ruled an incompletion.

Unfortunately, this whole thread is moot, skins won.


FRANK

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From: hjiwa@gruc19.nor.chevron.com :) :) ) (Saints Fan :)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: HOW BOUT EM!!
Keywords: Super Bowl
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:38:17 GMT
Organization: Chevron Petroleum Technology Company

hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde) wrote:
after
  mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) wrote:
    after
      hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde) wrote:
        after
          mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) wrote:
            after
              ..(ad nauseum)

HEAR! HEAR!  This is starting to sound like the flaming that goes on in the
politics newsgroups.  Let me just put my 2 doubloons in on behalf of the Saints
fans here in New Orleans.  We are quite modest and humble, not prone to spewing
hype about our team, and are just quietly waiting for the playoffs :) .  If you
ever watch the locker room interviews with Jim Mora, you'll see his comments
and responses also reflect that attitude, no extreme exaggerations or
superlatives, just the facts.  ZZZIIPPPP...okay, I've got my asbestos suit back
on...let the flaming continue.

Geaux Saints!!!

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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:50:08 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
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From: jdhl@troi.cc.rochester.edu (papa_sm00sh)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: STEELERS, BILLS WILL GO 11-5 AND NOT WIN THE SUPER BOWL!!!
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:37:10 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <92348.162032RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> Robbie Po <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>I'm convinced that the NFC is
>clearly supererior now.  The AFC really sucks.  So does Bubby "I can't complete
> a pass" Brister - my grandma's bingo team could probably do better.  The
>Steelers will be lucky to win one more game with him.

I agree with your assesment of Brister... however, the Bills are
currently 3-0 against the NFC West... only N.O. is left...
> One might
>be lucky to get to the Superbowl, where they will then be outplayed by the
>49ers, Cowboys, Saints, Vikings, Eagles, Redskins, Packers, whoever.  Why even

gee... it's unfortunate that you feel this way... does this imply that
you will be so disinterested in watching the superbowl that you won't
bother?


jason
From: mrn3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MATTHEW R. NARBY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Steeler vs Bills
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:37:13 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Dec09.160355.14871@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM>, chris@lightnin.Co
lumbia.NCR.COM writes:
>>In article <Mf7jUTy00UhW09HIkN@andrew.cmu.edu>, Jason John Brown
>><jb91+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've got a biased opinion so I'll leave myself out of this one.  I'm
>>> asking everyone else's opinion (except Bills fans).  A Steeler vs. Bills
>>> game in Three Rivers Stadium.  What's the outcome???
>>
>
>   It should be a rockin' crowd with a lot of Buff fans there.  On my map
>Pittsburgh is only 2 inches away from Buffalo :)  :)
>
>
>Chris    a Bills fan
>
Agreed. Pitts is a threeand a half to four hour drive from Buff, which is
nothing to overcome for a mighty Bills fan. I think the stadium would in
effect, be the game in Rich or Three Rivers, a neutral site, due to the
closeness of the two cities, esp. if this game occured as the AFC Champ game.
I think that under those condidtions, Buff would win a VERY close game. Foster
is stopable, as is evident in the first matchup earlier this season. The Bills
defense has finally learned how to stop the run. . . when they want to. This
is contingent on the health of Conlan, Jeff Wright, and Biscut. If Kelly goes
down, I give a stronger ad to the Bills, yes the BILLS, because the defense
tends to step up its level of play without their having their comeback Kelly
to rely on. Also, the team becomes more "Inspired" re: Jets over Bills.
 
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From: follick@jemez.eece.unm.edu (Jeremy Follick)
Subject: Re: Hall of Fame
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 05:57:58 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Dec18.134257.28108@relay.nswc.navy.mil> rweisbe writes:
>
>  A couple of hall of fame questions.
>
>1) What is the process for one being admitted into the hall
>   of fame. 
They are elected by the National Board of Selectors, a bunch of mediots.
>   If one holds a desirable NFL record will that put you in the hall of fame?  
Not necessarily.
>   Do sport writers nominate players for it. 
Anyone can nominate a player, you, me, anyone.
>   Is there a waiting period after retirement before you are admitted?
Yes, Five years for players.
>
>
>2) Are the following people in the hall of fame?
>   
>   Dan Fouts
No
>   Jointer
No (Joiner?)
>   Jack Kemp
No
>   Jim Plunket (sp)
No
>   Roman Gabrial (sp)
No
>   Ken Stabler
No
>   

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*
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From: jab55062@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The World Reknown Jason Boskey)
Subject: I don't know if this is a good idea...but
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:39:57 GMT

For those in my pool, or those who might be interested, here we go

Win odds for the superbowl, as of Monday AM 12-14

San Francisco       3-10
Dallas              6-1
New Orleans         9-1
Buffalo            20-1
Miami              20-1
All others are at  23-1


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From: nix@aslslc43.asl.dl.nec.com (David Nix)
Subject: Re: Scoring Leaders (was: Re: Benchmark = OJ)
Organization: NEC America, Inc Irving TX
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:48:04 GMT

>And on the subject of scoring, any of you trivia/stat hounds out there
>remember who scored (and how many) the most points in a season?  Who
>scored the most points in a season with no TD's (how many)? And an easy

I don't know who owns the NFLs all-time season scoring record, but Gino
Capalletti of the AFL Boston Patriots scored 178 points back around 1961.
He was a starting running back and handled all of their kicking.  If I
remember correctly he had 8 or 9 touchdowns plus all of the FGs and PATs.

Nix
From: rx84335@mcvax4.d48.lilly.com (BENVENGA MARK J)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Half a question
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:16:00 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Lilly Research Laboratories
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    Lines: 35

In article <4200@ncrsoph.Sophia.NCR.COM>, tdonnell@ncrsoph.Sophia.NCR.COM (Tom Donnelly) writes...
>In article <1992Dec16.155002@mccall.com> scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis) writes:
>>
>>In article <009652AD.67B603C0@vms.csd.mu.edu>, 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>>>I have seen refs call the penalty distance
>>>as "half the distance to the goal line".
>>>Can anyone tell me when is this and not 
>>>penalty by no. of yards (like say 10) 
>>>is enforced.
>>>
>>When it is greater than half the distance to the goal line.
>>
>>IE. 15yd penalty is half the distance when it is inside the 30;
>>    10yd   "     "   "    "     "       "  "  "     "    "  20;
>>and  5yd   "     "   "    "     "       "  "  "     "    "  10.
> 
>Uh, I thought it went more like this:
>IE. 15yd penalty is half the distance when it is inside the 15;
>    10yd   "     "   "    "     "       "  "  "     "    "  10;
>and  5yd   "     "   "    "     "       "  "  "     "    "  05.
> 
NO WAY!!!!!!
Sorry, a 15 yd penalty from the 16 does not move the ball to the 1.


> 
>go giants ( ever so meekly )
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From: gary@colossus.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary Strand)
Subject: Re: Week 15 & cumulative passer ratings
Organization: Climate and Global Dynamics Division/NCAR, Boulder, CO
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:53:15 GMT

gs> Gary Strand

  Ooops! I got Kent Graham's INT and TD numbers backwards! Instead of:

Week 15 (minimum 10 attempts):
Pos Name              Atts  Comp   Cmp%  Yards  AvgGn  TDs TD %  INT  IN% RATE
--- ----------------  ----  ----  -----  -----  -----  --- ----  --- ---- -----
 13 Kent Graham         21     7   33.3     54   2.57    2  9.5    0  0.0  74.1

it should be:
 28 Kent Graham         21     7   33.3     54   2.57    0  0.0    2  9.5   2.8

and also:
--- All Passers        729   411   56.4   4968   6.81   26  3.6   34  4.7  69.9
  1 NFC West           119    78   65.5    971   8.16   10  8.4    5  4.2 101.2
  2 NFC Central        100    60   60.0    606   6.06    4  4.0    3  3.0  78.2
  3 AFC Central         89    58   65.2    801   9.00    3  3.4    6  6.7  77.0
  4 NFC East           147    81   55.1    938   6.38    3  2.0    5  3.4  67.2
  5 AFC East           122    63   51.6    838   6.87    2  1.6    7  5.7  55.3
  6 AFC West           152    71   46.7    814   5.36    4  2.6    8  5.3  50.2
    NFC                366   219   59.8   2515   6.87   17  4.6   13  3.6  81.3
    AFC                363   192   52.9   2453   6.76    9  2.5   21  5.8  58.5
    NFL                729   411   56.4   4968   6.81   26  3.6   34  4.7  69.9

and lastly:

Week 15 (minimum of 10 total attempts):
Pos Name              Atts  Comp   Cmp%  Yards  AvgGn  TDs TD %  INT  IN% RATE
--- ----------------  ----  ----  -----  -----  -----  --- ----  --- ---- -----
 27 Kent Graham         97    42   43.3    470   4.85    1  1.0    4  4.1  44.6

Thanks to Glenn Giacalone for pointing out this rather grievous error.

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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 00:10:22 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 18:10:14 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
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From: davewood@anchor.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood)
Subject: POOL - Picks for Week #16 (REPOST) -- DUE SATURDAY!!!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:05:24 GMT

Week 16
-------

PLEASE DOUBLE CHECK THE FORM BEFORE MAILING IT!

Mail this form to davewood@cs.colorado.edu with the word "picks" in the
subject line.  Be sure to choose one and only one team for each game.  Mark
your choice with an 'x' in the appropriate box.  Put your initials after the
word "Initials:" (ON THE SAME LINE!) at the bottom of the form.  If you have
questions about this form, send them with the subject "fbproblem."  If you
still need to sign up, YOU MUST SEND A SEPARATE MESSAGE with the word
"signup" in the subject line.  Do not reply to this message unless it is to
send in your picks.  See the Rules/Signup post for more information.

WEIGHTS: Assign 10 points to 4 different games.
	 Assign  7 points to 5 different games.
	 Assign  5 points to 5 different games.

This form is due at 9:30am PST (4:30pm GMT) on Saturday, Dec 19. NO EXCEPTIONS!

DO NOT REMOVE ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE!

 WT  Away                       Home
*------------------------------------------------*
[  ] [ ] Kansas City		[ ] NY Giants    
[  ] [ ] Tampa Bay		[ ] San Francisco  
[  ] [ ] LA Rams		[ ] Green Bay        
[  ] [ ] Minnesota		[ ] Pittsburgh     
[  ] [ ] Phoenix		[ ] Indianapolis     
[  ] [ ] Washington		[ ] Philadelphia  
[  ] [ ] Buffalo		[ ] New Orleans      
[  ] [ ] Houston		[ ] Cleveland        
[  ] [ ] New England		[ ] Cincinnati   
[  ] [ ] Chicago		[ ] Detroit          
[  ] [ ] San Diego		[ ] LA Raiders     
[  ] [ ] Seattle		[ ] Denver           
[  ] [ ] NY Jets		[ ] Miami            
[  ] [ ] Dallas			[ ] Atlanta           
                               
Initials: 

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From: drew@verdix.com (Drew Johnson)
Subject: Re: Wilbur Marshall
Organization: VERDIX Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:08:06 GMT

In article <656@blue.cis.pitt.edu> rtcst3+@pitt.edu (Robert   T Conticello) writes:
>
>
>
>   Am I the only one who thinks that this guy is dirtier than Andre "Dirty"
> Waters?  Every game that I see him play in, he makes at least one cheap
> hit.  I thought he made a couple pretty bad ones against Dallas: trying
> to spear Aikman in the gut with his helmet, and leveling Novacek whose
> back was turned after the play was over.
>
> It's funny that unlike Waters when Marshall makes a cheap hit, the  
> announcers hardly ever make a big deal about it because he's some superstar
> or something.

I think the reason is probably that while Waters got the reputation for
trying to inflict career-ending injuries (going for the legs), Marshall
goes for hits that hurt, but aren't permanent.  I am a big Skins fan,
but I am as outraged as anybody by his blatant late hits.  He really seemed
to step them up starting last year.  He has paid some for this, because
I am pretty sure that the only reason that he didn't make the Pro-Bowl
last year was because of this behavior.

Drew

PS to Joe Dakes: I said "got the reputation for trying", not "was always
trying". :)

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