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From: asnd@reg.triumf.ca (Donald Arseneau)
Subject: Re: Problem in Verbatim Mode
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Distribution: comp.text.tex,fj.comp.texhax
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 11:07:00 GMT

In article <MASROOR.92Aug22121606@human.ai.kyushu-u.ac.jp>, masroor@human.ai.kyushu-u.ac.jp (Muhammad Masroor Ali) writes...
> 
>I have got two sets of macros in two different .MAC files:
> 
>        1. vten.MAC
>           a) BeginTenVerbatim          - begins ten point verbatim mode
>           b) EndTenVerbatim            - finishes ten point verbatim mode
> 
>        2. vtwelve.MAC
>           a) BeginTwelveVerbatim       - begins twelve point verbatim mode  
>           b) EndTwelveVerbatim         - finishes twelve point verbatim mode
> 
....
>Runaway argument?
>If you want to give a man something practical, consider tires.  More^^M\ETC.
>! File ended while scanning use of \ttfinish.
..

The problem is that three are two conflicting definitions of \ttfinish:

>        |gdef|ttfinish#1^^M#2\EndTenVerbatim{#1|vbox{#2}|endgroup$$}}
>        |gdef|ttfinish#1^^M#2\EndTwelveVerbatim{#1|vbox{#2}|endgroup$$}}

Only the second definition to be read will be retained.  Thus, if definition
two is in effect, only Twelveverbatim will end properly.

To fix it, use the definition

      |gdef|ttfinish#1^^M#2\EndVerbatim{#1|vbox{#2}|endgroup$$}}

and use it as follows:

  \BeginTenVerbatim        and        \BeginTwelveVerbatim
     Some Text                           Larger Text
  \EndVerbatim                        \EndVerbatim

It would also be more efficient to combine the bulk of the macro definitions
into one macro:

   \def\BeginTwelveVerbatim{\BeginVerbatim{\twelvett}}
   \def\BeginTenVerbatim{\BeginVerbatim{\tentt}}

Donald Arseneau                asnd@reg.triumf.ca
From: BNB@MATH.AMS.ORG (bbeeton)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re:  Size independant Computer Modern PostScript fonts wanted
Date: 14 Aug 92 04:44:04 GMT
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
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steve simmons (comp.text.tex, 12 august 1992) is looking for
size-independent computer modern fonts.
what he is looking for does not exist.  computer modern is based
on the philosophy that different sizes require certain variations
in design that are not implementable through linear scaling, and
i have yet to see a run-time font-generating system that provides
for the rather large number and different kinds of parameters that
are used to control the particular cm variations specified by the
designer (knuth).  maybe sometime, but not yet, and not unless
knuth says the result is cm.
						-- bb
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From: olea@ii.uib.no (Ole Arntzen)
Subject: Re: lyrics/chords macro wanted 
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Bergen
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 14:49:00 GMT

In article <6595@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM>, lukeh@tekig1.PEN.TEK.COM (Luke James Hornof) writes:
|> I'm looking for a macro package which will easily enable me to put the names
|> of simple guitar chords over words of song lyrics.
|>
|> For example, I would like the output to look like this:
|>
|> C              G            Am                  F
|> Met her at the Burger King, fell in love over a Pepsi
|>
|>
|> Right now I'm getting the job done with the tabbing environment, but it makes
|> the input quite unreadable, and is a pain to do:
|>
|> Met her at the \= Burger King, \= fell in love over a \=Pepsi \kill
|> C \> G \> Am \> F  \\*
|> Met her at the Burger King, fell in love over a Pepsi  \\*
|>
|> Ideally, the input would look something like this:
|>
|> \ch{C}Met her at the \ch{G}Burger King, \ch{Am}fell in love over a \ch{F}Pepsi

Put this where you use to place your macro definitions:
    \def\ch#1#2{\vbox{\hbox{#1}\hbox{#2}}} % Guitar chords


Make the input look like this:
    \ch{C}{Met} her at the \ch{G}{Burger} King,
                    \ch{Am}{fell} in love over a \ch{F}{Pepsi}

This is still a bit difficult to read but it is better than with the
tabbing environment.  You could also have a look at gloss.tex in
Marcel van der Goot's ``Midnight Macros'' package.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
                                         Ole Arntzen (olea@ii.uib.no)
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From: James Petts <pettsj@visigoth.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: TeX In Practice
Organization: No Affiliation
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:08:05 GMT
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In article <Bt9wFC.xI@gate.demon.co.uk> James Petts,
pettsj@visigoth.demon.co.uk writes:
>It's here at last!!!

"at last" being a relative term, of course. Springer say that it should 
hit the shelves in November...

James Petts
********************************************************************
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*  and the quantum theory on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays."   *
************************************** Wm. Bragg *******************
From: BNB@MATH.AMS.ORG (bbeeton)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re:  S: Replacement for msx/msy old AMS fonts or archive site
Date: 16 Aug 92 15:22:00 GMT
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martin weigele (comp.text.tex, 13 august 1992) asks where the *old*
ams symbol fonts (msx/msy) might be available, or for a 1:1 replacement.

i can't help you with the oldies, but the fonts msa/msb are very
close to 1:1 replacements.  there are a few differences:
 - several symbols, essentially duplicates of symbols already
   existing in cm* fonts, were removed
 - a few new symbols were inserted in cells that were empty in msx/y
 - the style of the blackboard bold in msy has been changed from
   "stick figure" to "inline", for which the design is based on the
   times model
for all symbols (including blackboard bold) that made the transition,
the locations are the same and the old control sequence names will
work, although the supported method of accessing blackboard bold has
changed from one \cs per letter to \Bbb followed by the intended
letter as an argument, to save memory space.

i should note that there has been some controversy over the change
to blackboard bold.  some mathematicians and tex users consider it
an improvement in the appearance of these symbols; others prefer the
"old" style, on the ground that it more closely resembles what a
mathematician writes on the blackboard.  in either case, no one has,
to my knowledge, complained that it is unclear or ambiguous.  thus,
like the controversy over computer modern, the judgments seem mainly
subjective -- matters of personal preference.

on the other hand, if it is a matter of creating new copy to be
patched into a corrected reprint of an existing book, the new
blackboard bold would not match.  since the ams fonts were
created for old metafont and can't be processed with the current
program, even having the old mf code isn't very useful.  i believe
i have heard that someone extracted the old blackboard bold and
updated it or created new shape descriptions and that the mf files
for this exist somewhere for ftp.  but i don't know where.

the msa/msb fonts should be ftp-able from the stuttgart archive,
  ftp.uni-stuttgart.de
in the areas soft/tex/ams/tfm-files and .../ams/amsfonts/pk-files
for the tfm and pk files or .../ams/amsfonts/sources/symbols for
the mf files.
						-- bb
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Subject: dvips (OS/2)
From: GRIGG@dirac.physics.jmu.edu (Steve Grigg)
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:54:23 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: James Madison University physics dept., VA USA
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 I just installed the 32-bit version of DVIPS, and am running into a slight
problem. I have emTeX placing its fonts in c:\emtex\pixel.lj\$rdpi as per the
instructions in the MFjob documentation. DVIPS appears to be looking in
c:\newfonts\pixel.lj\$rdpi. I've uncommented (removed the *) the line in
config.ps in c:\emtex\ps (i think) which points to the directory where my fonts
currently exist, but to no avail. Any clues?
Thanks in advance,
Steve
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From: James Petts <pettsj@visigoth.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: TeX In Practice
Organization: No Affiliation
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:14:34 GMT
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In article <ROLFL.92Aug20112635@karl.uio.no> Rolf Lindgren,
rolfl@karl.uio.no writes:
>Why hasn't anybody written a book explaining LaTeX? IMHO, the LaTeXbook
>needs a companion volume far more than the TeXbook does.

I tend to agree with you, but although there are a handful (3 or 4 ?) of 
LaTeX books around, I think that because LaTeX is perceived as "easier" 
than TeX, the books are generally not of the same standard. 

#include <disclaimer.h>

James Petts
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*  and the quantum theory on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays."   *
************************************** Wm. Bragg *******************
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This returned back to me as undelivered. I hope it can reach Frank Mittelbach
or some of his coworkers thes way.  Z. Wagner
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From:         Zdenek Wagner <WAGNER@CSEARN>
Subject:      misprint in doc.doc
To:           Frank Mittelbach <mittelbach@mzdmza.zdv.uni-mainz.de>


Dear Dr. Frank Mittelbach,
I have recently received DOC.DOC though  it is marked a test
version (not for distribution). It works well on my PC but I
have  noticed a  misprint (it  appears probably  only on one
place  and is  copied by  docstrip to  all files).  The file
contains "Poheng Chen" instead of correct "Pehong Chen".

Best regards
           Zdenek Wagner
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From: tlm@nextasy.physics.mcmaster.ca (Tom Marchioro)
Subject: Re: scientific word
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:54:56 GMT

wwm@wa8tzg.mi.org (Bill Meahan) writes:
: In article <7751960@MVB.SAIC.COM> Guenther Neue <UCH018%DDOHRZ11.BITNET@SHSU.edu> writes:
: >
: >
: >
: >Hello,
: >
: >recently I found an advertisement for a program that is claimed to
: >combine latex with wysiwyg under Windows. Has anybody experience with
: >that program which is called "SCIENTIFIC word" ?
: >
: >
: >Guenther
: 
: 
: See page 85 of the August, 1992 issue of the IEEE Computer Society
: journal "Computer."  Check your local library.
: 

I've also received several requests for the contact information (interestingly,
everyone says they want it, not for themselves but  for their secretary:-)

so. . . . 

Scientific Word is from TCI Software Research Inc.
1190 Foster Road
Las Cruces, NM 88001

505-522-4600

Sales line is 1-800-874-2383

Hope this is Helpful --- tom
From: <barr@triples.Math.McGill.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: A warning on WYSIWYG TeX
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 09:19:27 EDT
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
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There have a several postings recently on a WYSIWYG TeX.  I haven't seen
it, but for it and any similar program, users should be aware that any
manuscript it produces will probably  *not* be usable by the growing
number of journals that are accepting TeX submissions.  The reason for
this is that such a program is likely to insert fixed spacing, even
fixed page breaks and all those other physical, rather than logical
formatting items that any journal will have to change.  There was one
I heard about that apparently displayed formulas by inserting a string
\\ \ \ \ \ \ ...
to cause a linebreak followed by a certain number of hard spaces!  I am
sure the program in question does better than that, but the problems
involved in doing it right are enormous.  In fact, Cay Horstmann had
an excellent discussion of the problems in a recent Tugboat (he is
the author of ChiWriter, so he should know).  One of the points he
mentioned was that his users were *not* prepared to use a math shift
so he had to resort to heuristics to guess what was and what wasn't
mathematics and there were certain things that were essentially
unguessable (is an isolated `a' or `I' a math symbol or a word?)
My personal opinion is that true WYSIWYG is inconsistent with TeX, but
if all you want is to be able to have an alpha appear in your ms
instead of \alpha or asscripts appear raised or lowered, then that
should be possible.  But actual line and page breaks are neither
possible nor especially desirable.  Of course, real time previewing is
another matter.  I think that is both possible and highly desirable.

Michael Barr
From: eijkhout@cs.utk.edu (Victor Eijkhout)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Registered trademark macro?
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:08:44 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - Department of Computer Science
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Hi y'all,

does anyone have a macro for registered trademarks (R in a circle)
that is more clever than my modification of \copyright below?

\documentstyle{article}
\def\registered{\raise.5ex\hbox{\ooalign{\hfil\raise.06ex
	\hbox{$\scriptstyle\rm R$}\hfil\crcr\mathhexbox20D}}}

\begin{document}
\title{Perfect\registered\ Benchmarks}
\author{csrd}
\maketitle
\section{Perfect\protect\registered\ Benchmarks}
Perfect\registered\ Benchmarks.
\end{document}

Victor.

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From: schrod@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Joachim Schrod)
Subject: Re: tex v. WP5.1
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:16:28 GMT
Organization: TU Darmstadt

In article <1992Aug19.030637.19197@schaefer.math.wisc.edu>, mueller@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Carl Douglas Mueller) writes:
> 
> I know this doesn't belong here, but I HAVE to say this.  A laser printer 
> IS a dot matrix printer.  360 dpi is 360 dpi.

Where do you find an impact matrix printer with 360 dpi?

Please, don't name NEC P6 or similar printers. They might be able to
position with a precision of 1/360 in, but their dots are much wider
than 1/360 in. They are simply not 360 dpi printers, they cannot put
360 dots in one inch (yeah, that's *d*p*i*!) without gross
overlapping.

> (Sorry, but it's a pet peeve of mine

(Just a pet peeve of mine... ;-)  The person who cannot distinguish
its impact printer output from an HP LaserJet III (with RET) might
want to check his METAFONT mode definitions for the latter. They are
clearly distinguishable -- the former is _much_ bolder.

--
Joachim

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Joachim Schrod			Email: schrod@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de
Computer Science Department
Technical University of Darmstadt, Germany

	``How do we persuade new users that spreading fonts across the page
	like peanut butter across hot toast is not necessarily the route to
	typographic excellence?				-- Peter Flynn
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: Schoepf@sc.ZIB-Berlin.de (Rainer Schoepf)
Subject: Re: Problems including files verbatim
Reply-To: Schoepf@sc.ZIB-Berlin.de
Organization: Konrad-Zuse-Zentrum fuer Informationstechnik Berlin
	<RALPH.92Aug13144317@orion.laas.fr>
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:24:36 GMT

In article <RALPH.92Aug13144317@orion.laas.fr> ralph@laas.fr (Ralph P. Sobek) writes:

   >>>>> On 10 Aug 92 12:17:44 GMT, dak@cip-s02.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
   >>>>> (David Kastrup) said:

   David> Might be a textfile problem. Do these files originally include
   David> CR/LF sequences instead of simple LF (this usually applies mostly
   David> to UNIX systems). Change the files to adhere to the end of line
   David> behaviour usually expected by your OS.

   Why can't verbfile.sty and verabtim.sty be patched to work both with
   nl and CR/LF?  Wish: I would also appreciate a version that can expand
   TAB characters to `n' spaces, the default being 8.

NL vs. CR/LF: That is due to the underlying TeX implementation. If the
standard end-of-line terminator of the operating system is CRLF you
don't get the empty line. Usually, the Unix TeX gives you an extra
empty line when it sees CRLF in the input file. But since this is not
standard Unix text file format, I don't consider it a problem. If you
import DOS files you have to convert them, point. There is nothing
that can be done about it at the TeX macro level, EXCEPT ignoring
every empty line. If that is what you want, no problem. Read the
documentation of verbatim.sty to learn how to do it.

As for the TAB issue: the next distribution of verbatim.sty will
probably include such an option. 

Rainer Sch"opf
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   Rainer Schoepf
   Konrad-Zuse-Zentrum                       ,,Ich mag es nicht, wenn
    fuer Informationstechnik Berlin            sich die Dinge so frueh
   Heilbronner Strasse 10                      am Morgen schon so
   W-1000 Berlin 31                            dynamisch entwickeln!''
   Federal Republic of Germany
   <Schoepf@sc.ZIB-Berlin.de> or <Schoepf@sc.ZIB-Berlin.dbp.de>
From: howell@blegga.u.washington.edu (David Howell)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Registered trademark macro?
Date: 17 Aug 92 10:36:23 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

jbarnes@andy.bgsu.edu (Julie Barnes) writes:

>Has anyone a solution for the trademark symbol which consists of TM in
>a circle?

The trademark symboy ^TM should not be in a circle. Feel 
free to examine any modern consumer product (food is a
good choice).

Makes life much easier, no?
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: lott@uklira.informatik.uni-kl.de (Christopher Lott AG Rombach)
Subject: MF mode def for Xterminal?
Followup-To: poster
Reply-To: lott@informatik.uni-kl.de
Organization: Universitaet Kaiserslautern FB Informatik
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 10:18:28 GMT

Hi,

We would like to use xtex to preview documents on our Xterminals.
They are NCD-19s, screen size 1280w x 1024 h.  Naturally, we need
the Xtex-version of the screen fonts.  I looked through the various
mode definitions for metafont, but couldn't find anything that looked
better than the "sun" definition.  

Has anyone used mf to build fonts for an Xterminal?  I'd sure appreciate
hearing about the mode definition you used.

thanks in advance!  Please email me, I'll post a summary.

chris...
From: elias@corton.inria.fr (Banska Bystrica)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: dvi2ps
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:47:34 GMT
Organization: INRIA, Rocquencourt, France.

Hi !

I am new to TeX things and would like to install dvi2ps on sunos 4.1.1.
I have compiled it but when running it writes :
not found cmtex10.1000 or something other with .1000 extension.
How can I make these fonts ?

Thanks .
Lubos Elias

elias@uakom.cs


Organization: Statistics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 16:22:25 -0400 
From: Brian Junker <bj20+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Two small conceptual mistakes in latex.tex with proposed improvement

I  have always been happy with \secdef, as described in the latex.tex source:

% \secdef{UNSTARCMDS}{STARCMDS} :
%    When defining a \chapter or \section command without using
%    \@startsection, you can use \secdef as follows:
%       \def\chapter { ... \secdef \CMDA \CMDB }
%       \def\CMDA    [#1]#2{ ... }  % Command to define \chapter[...]{...}
%       \def\CMDB    #1{ ... }      % Command to define \chapter*{...}

-BJ
From: nad@phys.canterbury.ac.nz (Dr Noel Doughty University of Canterbury)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Blackboard bold identity
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 18:28:59 NZS
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
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My "Poorman's Blackboard bold" identity symbol constructed from a "one"
and a vertical line only works for a single size and is not very
pretty.

Does one exist somewhere in the standard fonts available to LaTeX?

Please reply directly by email if possible. Thanks in advance.


Noel Doughty
Department of Physics and Astronomy
University of Canterbury
Private Bag
Christchurch 8001
New Zealand

TEL: 064 3 667-001 (Extn: 6877)
DDI: 064 3 642-877
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Internet: nad@phys.canterbury.ac.nz
From: nad@phys.canterbury.ac.nz (Dr Noel Doughty University of Canterbury)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Blackboard Bold unity symbol for LaTeX
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 11:07:08 NZS
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
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Many thanks for several prompt replies to my request. Evidently, it is
not universally appreciated that standard Blackboard Bold only covers
the Upper Case letters.

The following TeX define from Guenther Neue (originally a Springer
macro) solved my problems completely including resizing correctly at
least for \Large and superscripts:


\def\bbbone{{\mathchoice {\rm 1\mskip-4mu l} {\rm 1\mskip-4mu l} {\rm
1\mskip-4.5mu l} {\rm 1\mskip-5mu l}}}


Noel Doughty
From: jongill@lilac.bldrdoc.gov (Jonathan M. Gilligan)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: changing page dimensions in midstream
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:41:46 GMT
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
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I am writing a modification to the LaTeX letter style to use with my
letterhead. In this style, I want a variable-sized header on the first
page (the size depends on whether the person defines a telephone number,
FAX number, e-mail address, etc. It is to be just the height necessary
for all the return-address info the person includes). Thus, I want
a routine that will fire at \begin{letter} and reset the \headheight,
\textheight, and \headsep, and will reset these parameters at the
end of the first page.

I have kludged my way around the problem, but I'd like an elegant way
to do this. Has anyone done something like this or have any ideas?

---Jon
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: wittig@gmd.de (Georg Wittig)
Subject: Re: German Dictionary
Keywords: German spell checker     linden@me.utoronto.ca
Organization: GMD, Sankt Augustin, Germany
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 08:09:56 GMT

See "ftp.gmd.de:/dict" for example.
--
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"In the beginning was the word, but it wasn't a fixed number of bits."
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From: tlm@nextasy.physics.mcmaster.ca (Tom Marchioro)
Subject: Re: Feynman Diagrams
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 01:42:51 GMT

tlm@nextasy.physics.mcmaster.ca (Tom Marchioro) writes:
: 
: I'm rather embarassed to be posting this for about the one millionth
: time, but where do you find the package for generating Feynman Diagrams
: in TeX?  [I've seen this question lots of times but never paid attention
: because I don't need it, but a friend asked me, so here I am, hat in 
: hand. . . . ]
: 
: I poked around the shsu FTP site, but couldn't find it, so if it's
: there please give me the exact file name.
: 
: Thanks in advance --- Tom
: 
: 
Thanks for all of the kind responses.  Nobody made fun of me, but 
everyone accurately pointed out this is in the FAQ list.

Thanks again --- Tom


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