From: yea027@marshall.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: RE: Once Bitten Twice Shy
Date: 11 Dec 92 10:48:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: marshall.1992Dec11.154859.119639
Organization: Marshall University

Bismillahe rahmaanoraheem
Salam alaikum brothers and sisters,
In response to the discussion about Afghanistan:
>>  As for nationalism, it is not right for Muslims to be divided. It is
>>acceptable for different people to have different traditions, but there is no
>>reason why they must belong to different countries. We are all Muslims and we
>>are all brothers. You remain an Afghan when you unite with other Muslims.
>
>>  What Islam calls for, however, is not for Afghanistan to be taken over by
>>another Muslim nation; Islam calls for Afghanistan and other nations to
>>willingly unite. The difference is that no people should give up their rights
>>or their belonging by being taken over; people should rather enhance their
>>ability to defend their rights by uniting.

>Islam does not call for a lot of things that are currently happening in 
>the name of Islam. No doubt about that. I can almost understand your 
>Utopian dream and had not been exposed to the harsh realities of our age
>would have even agreed with you. But Sayed and I are the children of war.

>A war which has left us all extremely distrustful of both our friends and 
>foes. And not just for any reason but for a very good one. We have the  
>advantage ( or should I say the disadvantage) of EXPERIENCE when dealing 
>with such sweet talk as yours.
It is not sweet talking to ask for the Muslim world to be united under one
khalifa.  This was not sweet talking when it occured after our own Rasul SAAWS. 
And if the division of our nations goes on long enough, there will be no Islam
to even worry about.  This is a product of western culture and civilization. 
"Make the Muslims hate each other so they can't unite against us". and they
have fooled enough of us dummies into one of us saying, Arabs are bad, another
of us saying Afghans are bad, another of us saying Iranians are bad.  The bad
ones are the ones who are nationalist and can't stand to love the umma as a
whole.  Have you heard the hadis brother: "The Muslim umma is like one body. 
When one part of the body hurts, the whole body hurts."
There was recently a very touching article on some net about a Saudi Arabian
boy who came to do jihad in Afghanistan.  At the Afghan victory he returned
home only to find out about the atrocities in Bosnia.  he then went there where
he became a shaheed.  ina lillaha wa ina illahee rajioon.
That is what being a Muslim man is all about.

>We saw how the Saudies used Islam to infiltrate and buy stooges among 
>Afghans only to further their Wahabism and to open a front against their
>arch enemy i.e the Iranian government. 

Come on brother, not everyone in the world is your brother.  Our people are too
afraid of Islam become too strict with us.  We are afraid that the secularity
that has found its way into our religion might be lost.

>We saw how the Ikhwani brothers sweet talked us into Islamic fraternity only
>to gain a strong hold in our country and to use it against our tribal 
>leaders, our priests and our local Mojahedin whose greatest crime, in the
>eye of Ikhwani brothers was, to care about the well being of innocent, Muslim
>population of Afghanistan.  
Like I said above, the people of our country hav becoem afraid of true Islam. 
The Islam that does require people to love each other.  The Islam that calls
for men and women to dress with grace and to not attract attention to
themselves.  The Islam that asks that a Muslim pray 5 times a day.  the Islam
that asks that if you see someeon in need, GIVE.  The Islam that says when
their is jihad, don't run away from it.  Ikhwanis have a true love for the true
way of their religion.  when Ikhwanis ask that men and women are not allowed to
freely mingle, people become upset because they are too strict. Come on
Muslims, open the Quran and see what Islam is all about.  It is the strict
believers such as the Ikhwanis that make Muslims hold fast against
secularization.  Even now our people are afraid of having a strict Muslim in
office because he will put real Islam into affect.

>unshakable faith in Islam and unbreakable reslove to free their motherland 
>stood against the almost invincible machinary of the Soviet Army. 

Mashallah.  Just remember the unshakable faith in Islam part.  That is what
your brothers faught a jihad for.  and it was not only Afghans though the
majority were Afghans who fought but simply because they were in that land.

>Sir, please leave us at peace. We still have to deal with Zia's ill-begotten
>pups in Kabul who are bleeding us even longer than we have to. That legacy 
>is good enough. No more, please. Just leave us alone. 
No, the other Muslims cannot leave us alone.  We need them.  You want people to
leave you alone, ask the UN to leave you alone.  Ask NON-Muslims to leave you
alone.  Zia ul-Haq was a Muslim with Islamic ideals.  I do not promote the
unification of any two countries under one leadership until both countries are
binding to Islam, but it is about time we had a khalifa to put ALL of us
together.

>Go to Bosnia, go to
>Algiers, go to Sudan and Sumali where the metal is hot and lots of     
>unsuspecting muslims might actually fall for all this hot air. We have 
>tried you once, and once bitten we are really twice shy.

Do you know that your very own Afghan brothers are in Bosnia??  Do you know
that they are very welcome their because they now have the experience to help
those people.  HOT AIR??? I guess anyone who is promoting strict Islamic ideals
is full of hot air.  Having true Islam is not a dream.  Yes indeed it is a
Utopia, but a very very possible scenario.  We've been through
this one already.  It is quite possible if people would just stop their
natianalist pride and submit themselves to Allah SWT: that is being a Muslim.
Salam alaikum
your sister in Islam
Mariam