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From: mlo@cray.com (Mick Oyer)
Subject: Re-fletching question
Reply-To: mlo@cray.com
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 29 Dec 92 10:25:19 CST


Well, I got a compound bow for Xmas - A Bear Whitetail II.
I'm really a novice at this, having just shot the bow for the first
time yesterday.

My brainstorm for a target setup was to use a mound of
straw bales, with a 4x4 piece of 5/8" sheetrock at the front.
Worked fairly well, but I shot a couple of arrows into a section
of the sheetrock that didn't have straw backing,
resulting in a couple of arrows that went almost all the way thru.
The upshot of this is that I already have arrows that need to be
refletched (hope I'm using the correct terminology).

Anyway, I'd be interested in a sort of step-by-step procedure for
refeathering arrows.  Is there a kit I need to buy?  Any help
would be appreciated.

I'm also looking for ideas on what works well for targets.

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From: DENNIS_@NCSU.EDU (DGA)
Newsgroups: alt.archery
Subject: Re: Re-fletching question
Date: 31 Dec 92 16:11:20 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University

In article <1992Dec29.102519.23558@hemlock.cray.com> mlo@cray.com (Mick Oyer) writes:
>From: mlo@cray.com (Mick Oyer)
>Subject: Re-fletching question
>Date: 29 Dec 92 10:25:19 CST
>
>Well, I got a compound bow for Xmas - A Bear Whitetail II.
>I'm really a novice at this, having just shot the bow for the first
>time yesterday.
>
>My brainstorm for a target setup was to use a mound of
>straw bales, with a 4x4 piece of 5/8" sheetrock at the front.
>Worked fairly well, but I shot a couple of arrows into a section
>of the sheetrock that didn't have straw backing,
>resulting in a couple of arrows that went almost all the way thru.
>The upshot of this is that I already have arrows that need to be
>refletched (hope I'm using the correct terminology).
>
>Anyway, I'd be interested in a sort of step-by-step procedure for
>refeathering arrows.  Is there a kit I need to buy?  Any help
>would be appreciated.
>
>I'm also looking for ideas on what works well for targets.
>


Mick,

Your use of straw bales as a target backstop is fine but, I really can't 
imagine using sheetrock as a target.  If you don't want to purchase a foam 
or fiber target you might consider what I have used with success.  I take a 
cardboard box that is 2-3'x2-3'x1-2' and fill the back appx. 4" solid with 
sheets of standard box cardboard, put a couple of sheets in the front of 
box, then fill the cavity with fiberglass insulation material.  Pack the 
insulation as tightly as possible.  I have shot my 60# compound into a 
target made like this hundreds of times using target and field points with 
aluminum arrows.  If the front is shot away I will replace the front sheets 
of cardboard, rearrange the back sheets (if needed), and repack the 
fiberglass.  Clearly, a target made of cardboard should not get wet.  Even 
so, it is cheap and it works.

IMHO, good targets are very cost efficient when the cost of re-fletching is 
considered.

DGA
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From: ejwagner@happy.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: Re-fletching question
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 31 Dec 92 15:17:36 MDT

In response to your message posting I have several suggestions.

You have the right idea to shoot you arrows in to straw however, once a
"pocket" has developed by placing arrows in the same area (i.e., a tight
grouping) you will weaken an area in each bale.  Tp prevent the arrows from
penetrating place a rubber conveyer belt behind your backstop. I guarantee you
that no matter what your draw weight is your arrows will NOT penetrate.  You
should be able to pick up a sheet of the conveyer belt at any surplus store.

As for the flecthing of your arrows I would recommend that You stay away from
feathers and use plastic fletching.  Plastic will be more forgiving and will
hold its shape after you abuse it.  I have been using plastic fletching for
eight years now and have only lost two or three veins in all this time.  Most
of the Easterners will swear by feathers.  The choice is yours.  What material
you decide on will make all the difference in the world.  Regardless of the
material you decide on I highly recommend you use a RIGHT handed helical.  The
helical will help to straighten out your arrow flight and is a MUST if you plan
to shoot broad heads.

If you should like futher information on this subject send me an E-mail.
I have been at this sport for eight years and have come back with some nice
looking deer. This year will be my first year at taking an elk.
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From: ajcd@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Angus Duggan)
Newsgroups: alt.archery
Subject: Re: targets?
Date: 21 Dec 92 09:18:33 GMT
Followup-To: alt.archery
Organization: Edinburgh University Fried Brain Carry-out

In article <1go584INN1ic@agate.berkeley.edu>, downey@homer.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Allen B. Downey) writes:
> Hi.  I practice a bunch of target-oriented sports -- darts, pistol,
> archery, etc.  I was thinking of trying to combine a couple of them
> by getting some archery targets in the form of a dart board and playing
> the standard pub games with bow and arrow.
> 
> Does anyone know if such a thing exists?  If it doesn't, I might have
> some printed.  Would people be interested in buying something like that,
> if I sold them?

Yes, such things do exist. You can buy them from all of the archery retailers
in the UK, so I presume you can buy them in the USA too. They're 122cm
diameter, and printed in black and white on normal (not reinforced) paper.

a.
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From: claebaur@shell.portal.com (Tony S Annese)
Subject: Re: Saluting
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 05:53:42 GMT

In article <1993Jan2.052554.27185@epas.toronto.edu> nusbache@epas.utoronto.ca (Aryk Nusbacher) writes:
>
>FIRST TIME:
>
>I thought I'd go on record today for my first time saluting an
>inanimate object.  There it was, Brigadier Thompson's car, with his


Ever salute an enlisted man? Myself as a mere E-4 get saluted in general 
about once a week. I'm an enlisted aircrewman so if I am in my flightsuit
there is no telling me from an officer except by looking at my name tag which
is 4x2 and trying to read my rank or by looking at my ballcap which has the 
insignia of a Third Class Petty Officer(which I am). But I am also on a 
semi training base so we get new people straight out of basic or tech school
to go through platform training all the time and they salute the flightsuit
more than the rank. They dont realize I am enlisted. Ahh the life...(not that
I would ever return a salute mind you).
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Subject: empty
From: cvalj000@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu (Mike Cancellier)
Date: 28 Dec 92 18:58:36 PST
Organization: Cal Poly Geography
Nntp-Posting-User: cvalj000

Thought I'd better post so the group doesn't get cut.

Mike
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From: nusbache@epas.utoronto.ca (Aryk Nusbacher)
Subject: Re: empty
Organization: University of Toronto - Office of the Provost
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 01:11:10 GMT

In article <C0250w.Gvt@unix.portal.com> claebaur@shell.portal.com (Tony S Annese) writes:

>So thats how you officers fill your days.... I always wondered what you guys
>did. I know I see my division officer about 20 minutes a day. 

We get a lot of sleep, too.  \8-)

>>Actually, I'll have a chance to get out into
>>the field in January -- when it's
>>nice and chilly at the training base up in
>>Meaford.  And, of course, there's
>>the Garrison Ball in February.

>Have the Uniform ready yet?

For the Garrison Ball it's a different uniform, too.  \8-)

Or did you mean for going on Ex at Meaford?  I've been commissioned
two and a half months now, and I've never put on my combats (though I
have started breaking in the boots).  I've washed my combats about
eight times, though, so that when I'm on ex everyone will think I'm a
long-time veteran.  Think I'll fool anyone?

>The life and hardships of an officer. Boy am I glad that we enlisted people
>are not subjected to such social gatherings. The most we have to deal with
>is the command Christmas Party which is a casual event. No formality
>involved. Makes things a little easier to deal with. There is still the 
>required protocol of calling the officers Mr or Ms or Mrs and the commanding
>officer is still sir or skipper.

We had our Regimental All Ranks Christmas Party just the other day.
The Other Ranks (and the Colonel) get to sit through dinner, while the
officers serve and the NCO's and warrants clear the dishes.  "Yo, sir,
more coffee over here!"

It also gives us an opportunity to see some of our fine looking young
female troopies all scrubbed and clean, and curse the fact that
they're as off-limits as the Colonel's daughter.

Cheers,
Aryk Nusbacher, 2Lt
48th Highlanders of Canada
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From: claebaur@shell.portal.com (Tony S Annese)
Subject: Re: Cadets
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 00:57:53 GMT

In article <1hss6aINNcmg@au-ns.american.edu> kevin@american.edu (Kevin Cruz) writes:
>miliatry courses. After 6 months or so, you will commission in the RESERVES. At  
That is the active Reserves which basicly is the same thing for an Officer. The
only way to become a non-reserve officer in the Navy/Marine Corps is to go to
the Naval Academy. All other roads to commisioning lead to a commision in the
Active Reserves.
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Newsgroups: alt.military.cadet
Subject: Questions answered
From: cvalj000@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu (Mike Cancellier)
Date: 31 Dec 92 12:54:34 PST
Organization: Cal Poly Geography
Nntp-Posting-User: cvalj000

O.K.,
	In answer to previous questions, you cannot be in ROTC past the end of
the second year without U.S. citizenship.  To be an officer, or an advanced
cadet, you gotta be a citizen.
	This group was originally chartered to have discussions on the
different commissioning programs of the worlds armed forces with a particular
emphasis on the ROTC programs in the U.S.  It has since branched out to
include dicussions of military matters by (mostly) military people.  There are
quite a few cadets or midshipmen on, fewer officers (mostly new commissionees)
and a few EM's and NCO's.  I sent the "empty" message because all of the cadets
are on break.  I am heading out myself on 4 Jan 93 for a  tech school.  I am
gonna try to stay active and answer questions, but I think it is going to be a
losing battle.
Cheers,

Mike
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From: claebaur@shell.portal.com (Tony S Annese)
Subject: Re: empty
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 05:38:56 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.011253.12770@epas.toronto.edu> nusbache@epas.utoronto.ca (Aryk Nusbacher) writes:
>Letter to Judy
[..]
>I just completed my first assignment as an army officer.  I went to the St.
>Andrew's Ball.  This was no simple mission, mind you.  First of all, in order
[..]
>to Richmond Hill (it was 3am by this time, but her family had waited up to

(I grew up in a neighborhood in New York City called Richmond Hill)

[..]
>So there it is -- my first military mission.  The infantry officer determines
>the objective, identifies threats, identifies opportinities, plans his
>strategy ... no, wait, that's the business executive ... oh, well.  I've only
>been an infantry officer for a week, and I've been too busy polishing my
>shoes and borrowing a whistle-cord to learn anything about commanding a
>section of dismounted Highland infantry.

So thats how you officers fill your days.... I always wondered what you guys
did. I know I see my division officer about 20 minutes a day. 

>Actually, I'll have a chance to get out into the field in January -- when it's
>nice and chilly at the training base up in Meaford.  And, of course, there's
>the Garrison Ball in February.

Have the Uniform ready yet?


The life and hardships of an officer. Boy am I glad that we enlisted people
are not subjected to such social gatherings. The most we have to deal with
is the command Christmas Party which is a casual event. No formality
involved. Makes things a little easier to deal with. There is still the 
required protocol of calling the officers Mr or Ms or Mrs and the commanding
officer is still sir or skipper.
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Newsgroups: alt.military.cadet
From: nusbache@epas.utoronto.ca (Aryk Nusbacher)
Subject: Saluting
Organization: University of Toronto - Office of the Provost
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 05:25:54 GMT


FIRST TIME:

I thought I'd go on record today for my first time saluting an
inanimate object.  There it was, Brigadier Thompson's car, with his
driver sitting there doing very little.  So I saluted it.

Actually, I saluted the colours on a stone frigate as well, but
colours don't count as inanimate.

Aryk Nusbacher, 2Lt
48th Highlanders of Canada
Newsgroups: alt.military.cadet
From: nusbache@epas.utoronto.ca (Aryk Nusbacher)
Subject: Uniforms
Organization: University of Toronto - Office of the Provost
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 16:22:12 GMT

In article <C03qMv.KM9@unix.portal.com> claebaur@shell.portal.com (Tony S Annese) writes:

>Oh the life. All these uniforms to keep up with.(Speaking of which I need to
>take mine into the tailors and dry cleaners) Actually being in the US Navy
>as an enlisted person is harder to keep up with the uniform scene then the
>Officers have.
>The Officers have 1 all around work uniform and one Summer dress
>and summer mess and a winter dress. We have a Summer utility, summer working,
>summer dress, winter working, winter dress, and then if we opt to at higher 
>ranks can get a winter mess. 

No 1	Full Dress	Scarlet doublet w/ feather bonnet, sword, etc.
No 1	Blues		Blue patrol jacket w/ spats, gold shoulder
			cords, sword sling, whistle cord, etc.
No 2 	Blues		Blue patrol jacket w/ shoulder boards, no
			sword sling, no spats.
DEU	Green		Winter working dress, green jacket
DEU	Tan		Summer working dress, tan jacket
Mess kit		Scarlet jacket, gold shoulder cords
Garrison winter		Camouflage safari jacket, polished boots
Garrison summer		Shirtsleeves, tartan trews
Combat

We cannot, of course, afford to do combined arms training.  But by God
we look good while we're not doing it!

Aryk Nusbacher 2Lt

With advice from J Graham 2Lt

Newsgroups: alt.military.cadet
From: randy@halcyon.com (C. Brandon Gresham)
Subject: Re: Cadets
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 09:04:49 GMT

>That is the active Reserves which basicly is the same thing for an Officer. The
>only way to become a non-reserve officer in the Navy/Marine Corps is to go to
>the Naval Academy. All other roads to commisioning lead to a commision in the
>Active Reserves.
>--
I have been lead to believe that Congress just changed that this year.
From the screams I've heard from the Academies future grads (beginning
in what year?) will receive Reserve Commissions.


Newsgroups: alt.military.cadet
From: fbrohs@email.tuwien.ac.at (Friedrich BROHS)
Subject: Re: Cadets
Organization: Technical University of Vienna
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 08:04:53 GMT


Hi !

A question about citizenship: Is it required to be a US citizen to serve
with US forces? I know, that during the Vietnam war it was possible to
achieve US citizenship by serving in the USMC. 

Next question is: Is it possible to participate ROTC if you got a
scholarship  at a US uninersity?




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From: pan2765@seas.gwu.edu (Crazyman Pan)
Subject: Re: Cadets
Organization: I have none...
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:30:15 GMT


In article <1992Dec29.080453.9919@email.tuwien.ac.at> fbrohs@email.tuwien.ac.at (Friedrich BROHS) writes:

>A question about citizenship: Is it required to be a US citizen to serve
>with US forces? I know, that during the Vietnam war it was possible to
>achieve US citizenship by serving in the USMC. 

I would think that you'd have to be a citizen in order to be in the US Armed
Forces -- though I'm not in it so I don't know what the official word is.
Perhaps the Lt. who posted would know.

>Next question is: Is it possible to participate ROTC if you got a
>scholarship  at a US uninersity?

I know that at service academies, you don't have to be a citizen of the US.
HOWEVER, you've got to have a damn good reason why you want to be there, and
have a written letter of consent from your home nation (that as well as all
the other paperwork and beurocracy that you normally have to go through to get
into a service academy).  Upon graduation, you would not be commissioned in
the US Armed Forces.  You would most probably go to your home nation and be
commissioned there (upon passing whatever requirements are necessary there).


Since I happen to be posting, I might as well reiterate what the enlisted
man wrote to the Lieutenant:  What is this group for?

I'm not in the military, nor have I ever been, nor probably ever will be
(a medical disqualification which really bites, because I had applied to
West Point).  

However, I spent a year at a military high school, of which I am very proud.
Perhaps this group is for geezing about days spent in a military academy?
If so, I can be a regular contributer, because though I only spent a year
at that school (Valley Forge Military Academy), I had a lot of experiences
and love the school and can geeze for hours about the times I had there (and
do so whenever I can).  I really *did* want to go to West Point, but 

		O	H		W	E	L	L

						

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Newsgroups: alt.military.cadet
From: nusbache@epas.utoronto.ca (Aryk Nusbacher)
Subject: Levee
Organization: University of Toronto - Office of the Provost
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 01:25:33 GMT

So while all the rest of the world sleeps on New Year's Day, the
officers of the Toronto Garrison wake up bright and early for Levee.

Shared misery is a great bonding process.  You know how it is, puking
with the guys in the residence hall showers, and friends forever.
Well, on New Year's Day, a hung-over officer corps gets together and
hates life.

Of course we drink while we do it.

The Colonel goes to the Lieutenant-Governor's levee and spends the day
hobnobbing with other people who have to be there.  The newest major
spends the day at the Mayor's levee, doing whatever it is the mayor
wants to do.  The PMC (President of the Mess Committee) and the
Vice-PMC spend the day in our own mess, hosting visitors.  The rest of
us divide up into groups and go visiting the rest of the messes in
town.

The procedure:  First you haul yourself out of bed.  You have to show
up at 0900, so the hauling has to be pretty early.  You bolt down some
aspirins and B1 (never underestimate the value of Vitamin B1), and you
put on Number One Blues (which includes gold shoulder cords, sword
sling, spats and white gloves ... oh, and medals, which is a non-problem for
those of us who have been around for less than 14 years, or who
haven't been to Cyprus).  Then you go to the first mess on your list.
Then you drink.  Then you try to steal something, so that you can put
it in your own mess as a trophy (you are competing with people from
every regiment in town, remember, for those bits of mess silver).
Then you go to the next mess, and repeat until 1700.  Then you go home
and die.

Notes:  only slightly harder to get to than the mess silver are the
female officers, especially the good looking ones.  There are few
enough of them that the competition is stiff.  So to speak.  Yours
truly has checked his list, and sees that he is assigned to visit 25
Medical Coy., which has the highest proportion of female officers in
town.  Boy am I in for disappointment.

Ready for it?

Aryk Nusbacher, 2Lt
48th Highlanders of Canada
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