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From: laub@Software.Mitel.COM (Boniface Lau)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: OPEN JUDGEMENT OF A "COLOR WOLF"
Date: 5 Oct 92 02:00:50 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.
In-reply-to: bi_kin@uxmail.ust.hk's message of 3 Oct 92 03:41:46 GMT

>>>>> On 3 Oct 92 03:41:46 GMT, bi_kin@uxmail.ust.hk (HoiFung JACK @>-`) said:
HoiFung> Can any netters answer me the following question:

HoiFung> Assume there is a "color wolf" - undergrad, in a university
HoiFung> who sexally disturbs girls frequently, is it fair for us to
HoiFung> judge him openly in front of all the students and "dot his
HoiFung> face" to the public?!

If you value the respect that every individual deserves, be that a
criminal or whoever, you won't do any of the above. 

If you see the "color wolf" as a victim who needs help, you will come
up with effective and yet positive ways of dealing with the situation.

---
Boniface Lau    (613) 592-2122 ext. 3042    Boniface_Lau@Mitel.COM
Mitel Corp., 350 Legget Drive, Kanata, Ontario, Canada K2K 1X3

A classical work is beautiful by virtue of its subjugated romanticism.
  Who knows exactly what those poignant gestures and glances signify?
    Yet how affecting they are.                              -- Balanchine
From: rkwst+@pitt.edu (Raymond K Wong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: About Leon Lai
Date: 29 Sep 92 01:18:58 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

I agree that many Hong Kong singers sing off-tune live.  They sound so good
on tape and CD because the sound tracks are all professionally, digitally 
enhanced, corrected and engineered.  They even have "correcting" kareoke 
now so everybody can sing "on-tune."   But a well trained, talented and
disciplined singer should be able to minimize mistakes and maintain a good
pitch.  It's practice, practice and practice.   When I sang in Pittsburgh,
I practiced a lot and it really showed.  After a while of idleness, my singing
was really rusty.  To be a real good singer, not only should you have a good
voice (now, I am talking about the "REAL" singer, not the screaming and yelling
type rockers....), you should also have good ears.  You need to listen well to
the orchestration and music, and when you are singer with someone else (say
a duet or in a chorus) you need to listen to each other to achieve a good 
harmony.  It's not easy to be a good singer.  I myself have a lot to learn.
Fortunately I have Kareoke!  :-)

Ray

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: RE: Hummorous Signs in U.S.A.
From: g25@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:46:26 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University

Here are two signs I have seen in the streets:

1.  "If you are not handicapped, after you've parked here,
     you will be!"  - for handicapped parking spots; &

2.  "No shirt, no shoe, no service." - outside a liquor 
     store.

It seems to me though, most Americans are honest and funny.

Michelle Lam
From: memco@cns.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: MADLY IN LOVE WITH HER!!!!(Scary Stuff)
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:04:38 GMT
Reply-To: memco@cns.nyu.edu
Organization: New York University

In article 828@nic.umass.edu, s6883289@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Absolutely Chinese) writes:

> hear my story:
>    i met this girl from my class last fall. she's from nearby school 10 miles
> away, so my only hope of seeing her was about class time. i liked her and made
> acquantaince with her. the next semester (last spring), i purposely took the 
> same class with her, hoping to see her more often. then on valentine's day,
> i told her that i loved her and since then, she never talked to me again.
> i was really depressed, i began to skip that class all the time and finally
> failing that class at the end. frustrated, i started messing up the Internet,
> posting lots of ugly articles and cursing people. some idiots complained and i
> end up losing my job at the computing center. i spent the whole summer thinking
> about her. i wrote poems about her but couldn't have her to read, i have lots 
> to say to her, but can't have her to listen. now, another school year has 
> started, she's no longer taking any class here. i am working three days a week
> and taking a full course load, my hope of seeing her again is even more remote.
> i called her but as soon as she picked up the phone, she wanted to hang up. 
> i don't know why i am such a turn off to her. i am not very ugly, not very
> stupid, not very rude, but my love of her was very sincere, is very sincere 
> and will be very sincere. is it because she is extremely smart? extremely
> beautiful? extreamely classy? i can't help but wonder what will happen to us
> this semester, me in particular.
> 
> PS. my loved one, i really hope you're reading this.
> 
> - Peter, forever in love with that malaysian chinese girl

Here's a thought. Perhaps she's avoiding you because you scare her.
You took a class just to get close to a complete stranger you were
attracted to . After you "make acquaintaince with her" in the spring
term, you declare your love on Feb 14. Assuming the spring term started
in January, you declared your love to someone who you were "acquainted"
with for a month, plus. ANd why are you in love with her? Because she's
"extremely smart? extremely beautiful? extreamely classy?". But who IS
SHE? I don't mean her name, I mean who is this person. What does she think?
What does she feel? What are her goals in life? What are her dreams?
Do you know any of that? Do you even care?

Based purely on her external appearance and mannerisms, you've decided
you are "forever in love with that malaysian chinese girl". Peter,
GET ON WITH YOUR LIFE AND LEAVE HER ALONE.
------------------------------------------

Get to actually know a woman (not acquaintance, know). Find out about her.
Tell her about you. When you actually know her AND she knows you, then,
declare affections.

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memco@wotan.cns.nyu.edu
From: vchan@haas.berkeley.edu (Vincent Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Why I got this GRADE in Econ...
Date: 28 Sep 1992 21:19:54 GMT
Organization: Haas School of Business, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: haas.berkeley.edu

In article <BvAzsw.Mv2@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mtam@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Johnny Wu) writes:
> I'm a sophomore and is undecided in major.
> But try to get an easy A from Econ.. But on the last test I had STUDIED very
> hard and thought I got everything down in memory.  But when I got my grade 
> back I find out that my friend who didn't study and got a better grade then
> me. Now I feel so stupid and dumb and is looking for a lake to jump in.
> Could anyone help me to acheive my goal of a failure.. please HELP ME...
>

NO! Don't do that ! Your parents will be very sad if you jump into the lake.
There is always a better tomorrow. Just try your best. I think you are
smart enough compared with a lot of people because you are studying in a
good school. Take it easy !!! This is a valuable experience for you to 
think about improving your reading skill or other exam strategies.

Vincent




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From: william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William Lo)
Subject: Chinese wives are good? (Was Re: Stand up girls! Re: Why? Why? Now I am telling you why.)
Organization: IBM Australia/ACCI 
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 03:08:36 GMT

In article <BvEHHt.867@nic.umass.edu> s6883289@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Absolutely Chinese) writes:

[...Stuff deleted...] Since I take no interest in feminism -:)

>
>that's true, chinese husbands are the worst and likewise, chinese wifes are
	     ^						  ^ 
	   some						some
		
>also the worst. that's why the chinese females i know prefer white guys and the
>chinese guys i know prefer white females.
>
	Chinese women are quite sometimes(correct me if I'm wrong, don't flame)
	stick-in-the-mud type women, and Chinese men rather "Dai-Nam-Yun"(but
	Hongkong men are said to be "Siu-Nam-Yun") Some friends of mine say 
	Japanese women(Asian women?) are the most sought when it comes to hunting 
	for a good wife coz they're tame. Some say Chinese women invariably possess
	their traditional virtue and are more understanding(a good example being
	my mum I think). My girlfriend is Italian and I think she's very nice, too. 

---Cheers,
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: vchan@haas.berkeley.edu (Vincent Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: About Leon Lai
Date: 28 Sep 92 07:12:01 GMT
Organization: Haas School of Business, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: haas.berkeley.edu

In article <10292270.86258.10111@kcbbs.gen.nz> Alpha.Ranma@kcbbs.gen.nz (Raphael Cheung) writes:
>But I only heard Leon sing off-tune about 3 to 4 times...
>
I think many of the new young singers cannot perform well in live
concert because they are not talented singers. Andy Lau also sang
off-tune when he had his concert in San Francisco but nobody 
reported that. If you guys are old enough, remember Cheng Siu Chow.
When he sang in live event, he always fully dressed as a "Dai Hub"
so as to distract people from his lip-singing.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: bi_kin@uxmail.ust.hk (HoiFung JACK @>-`)
Subject: Re: OPEN JUDGEMENT OF A "COLOR WOLF" (CLARIFICATION)
Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 05:12:17 GMT

In article <eln235s.718167925@fawlty10.eng.monash.edu.au> eln235s@fawlty10.eng.monash.edu.au (mr h hui) writes:

[lines deleted...]

>What "sexually disturbance" are you talking about? If it is criminal,
>let the police handle that?
>
>Otherwise, if you're referrig to verbal harrassement, I think the 
>discipline committe is a good place to go.
>
*****************CLARIFICATION***********************************
Thanks for your suggestion!
I guess i need to clarify that this "color wolf" may have sth. wrong
in his brain, he has a book recording all the girls' details, tel. no.,
major,...etc.  Meanwhile, he entered the girls' dormitory without permission,
his eyes are strange and awful, some girls said they feared in meeting his
eyes..etc....one night, a girl screamed loudly when seeing him in her room
suddenly.
Once, he asked a stranger (student) in the lift that if he could kiss her!
Many many misbehaviors...There are still many examples.....
Maybe we need to send him to moral education centre or hospital.

We students already judged him openly one night in the dormitory, all the
students come out and watched!!! but i feel it doesn't mend matters.
It rather hurts his self-respect, he admitted that he is wrong, "ham sub" and
can't control himself, etc..in front of all the students.  It seems unfair 
to him????   Maybe there will be adverse effect!
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: memco@cns.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Stand up girls! (Gas on the Fire)
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:19:34 GMT
Reply-To: memco@cns.nyu.edu
Organization: New York University

In article 18015@cs.brown.edu, cs123057@cs.brown.edu (Chainsaw) writes:
> In article <1992Sep30.165049.1098@schaefer.math.wisc.edu>, poon@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Ka-Cheong Poon) writes:
> |> In article <80795@ut-emx.uucp> shui@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dreamer) writes:
> |> >Hey Girls,
> |> >
> |> >   It is time for us to say something after reading those stupid and narrowed
> |> >mind guys' junk news.
> |> 
> |> I think that there is going to be a flame war in SCHK!
> 
> Isn't that what you are in here for??    ^_^
>  
> |> [Deleted]
> |> 
> |> >  Guys start building up a right attitude to treat female. Otherwise you 
> |> >will besorry.  
> 
> AND GALS also better start building up a right attitude to treat male, bitching alone
> is NOT gonna get you any where.   Do you know why people consider Chinese (& American)
> wives the worst?  That's because they can't keep their mouths shut!!  If you want things
> changed, DO something about it.

Chainsaw, perhaps you hadn't noticed that this is almost the 21st century. Perhaps you
haven't comprehended that women, who make up half the planet,have as much right to speak as
the other half. Most of all, I know you haven't that figured out that the biggest
HISSY-FIT BITCHING is coming from YOU. You whine that women don't have the right attitude
about how to treat men, that they can't keep there mouths shut. I'll give you a clue
(obviously the first you've ever had). Women don't bitch about men who treat them with
respect. And a man who is confident in himself isn't afraid of a woman who talks (or
are you just afraid of all those teeth?)


> 
> |> What is the right attitude, do you think?
> 
> Stop bitching and act up!

As for acting up, what would suggest? Having women stab abusive morons in their sleep?


---
memco@wotan.cns.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: cs_rayhy@uxmail.ust.hk (YaN HO LEunG)
Subject: Re: They got no brain..
Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:25:23 GMT

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: They got no brain...
Summary: 
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Keywords: 

In article <1992Sep26.065809.20497@cucs5.cs.cuhk.hk> klyeung1@eng.ie.cuhk.hk (yeung ka leung) writes:
>glo@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (George Lo) writes:
>
>>In article <stevew.717276678@helios> stevew@helios.unl.edu (Steve Wu) writes:
>>>tchow@ra.cs.umb.edu (Tony Yee Chow) writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>  By the way, for a Ph.D student, his/her GPA must maintain at least
>>>3.5 something or higher. (at least for most of the cases).
>>>
>>Getting below 3.5 in any university in US isn't easy but very hard
>>in HK. 
>
>*** As an engineering student in CUHK, I have never dreamed that my GPA
>can above 3.5. I find it even vary difficult to reach 3.0 (maybe I am
>not smart enough :( ). But there is still a few of us can get a 3.xx.
>As far as I know, there are  just 3 or 4 of us can get 3.5 or above
>(within 180 students in 2nd year, ie last term).
>

I am an engineering student in HKU. In our dept, one can get a A if
one scores over JUST 70. That may be equilvalent to 85 in US and CA.
But still, they enjoy applying GPA to HK students.

Clement (A friend of cs_rayhy)



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Subject: Re: They got no brains.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: They got no brain...
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In article <1992Sep26.065809.20497@cucs5.cs.cuhk.hk> klyeung1@eng.ie.cuhk.hk (yeung ka leung) writes:
>glo@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (George Lo) writes:
>
>>In article <stevew.717276678@helios> stevew@helios.unl.edu (Steve Wu) writes:
>>>tchow@ra.cs.umb.edu (Tony Yee Chow) writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>  By the way, for a Ph.D student, his/her GPA must maintain at least
>>>3.5 something or higher. (at least for most of the cases).
>>>
>>Getting below 3.5 in any university in US isn't easy but very hard
>>in HK. 
>
>*** As an engineering student in CUHK, I have never dreamed that my GPA
>can above 3.5. I find it even vary difficult to reach 3.0 (maybe I am
>not smart enough :( ). But there is still a few of us can get a 3.xx.
>As far as I know, there are  just 3 or 4 of us can get 3.5 or above
>(within 180 students in 2nd year, ie last term).
>

I am an engineering student in HKU. In our dept, one can get a A if
one scores over JUST 70. That may be equilvalent to 85 in US and CA.
But still, they enjoy applying GPA to HK students.

Clement (A friend of cs_rayhy)



Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mkwan@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Michael C. KWAN)
Subject: Help me, if you are in Victoria Uni., Tech.
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 02:29:33 GMT

Hi ,

	I am aftering a frined who is called Eric Yeung, he should be
in second year, Computing Technology at Victoria University of Technology.

	If someone knows him, please let me know or let him know.

	Thanks in advance.



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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
From: x0y3510@tamuts.tamu.edu (Xuejun Yang)
Subject: Re: Future of China........
Organization: ~/lib/organization
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:03:26 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.005859.17777@oracle.us.oracle.com> kwee@oracle.uucp (Karl Wee) writes:
>In article <1ad0pfINNi2q@agate.berkeley.edu> tung@ocf.berkeley.edu (Samuel Ka Shun Tung) writes:
>>
>>...Consider Taiwan, people there are the same Chinese as we and the 
>>people on the mainland are. It got little resources and its only asset is
>>human capital. In just thirty something yr, it become a country that has
>>the highest amount of foreign exchange reserve and its ecomonic power has
>>surged and forbidded other countries to ignore it. For the mainland,
>>resources are vast, and with the help of Hong 
>>Kong, Taiwan, and Chinese in other parts of the world, if the 
>>government policies are right, undoubtedly it can surpass US and become the
>>world's economic superpower in the midst of next century.
>
>I agree with most of your article, but Taiwan, HK, Japan, etc. got into "fast
>track" economic development because of their export of manufactured products,
>at least during the earlier stages.  China is such a huge country that no
>country on earth can fully absorb her exports without damage to their domestic
>economic stability.  Of course the CCP knows this, and hopefully has a
>different strategy in mind.  But an analogy between China and the "4 Tigers +
>Japan" is not complete.
I agree. The key to China's eventual success depends on her domestic
market. In the short run though, it helps a lot to absort outside capital 
to compensate the lack of hard cash.



Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: eln235s@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr H Hui)
Subject: Re: Chinese husbands....
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 11:12:36 GMT

gho@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Grace Ho) writes:

>You know, it's kind of funny of what girls think about
>chinese guys for husbands.  Being a girl, i don't think
>that i would want a husband of any other race.  In fact,
Why not? Chinese are usually shorter, less muscular. BTW, as '97 
is approaching, it's the fast track to foreign passport. -:)

>my roommate who is korean wants a chinese husband b/c
>she says that the stereotype of a chinese husband is
>"submissive"...Do you guys agree?  I mean, the wife
>usually controls the money and usually has the power
Wife controls the part of money for household purpose, which is
negotiable through some mean or other. (Traditional model)

However, it is uncommon for the wife to has her own career. Thus, I
would think the old way that the husband "contributes" to the family
finacially a little bit obsolete.

>in the family.  I'm sure that you guys will disagree
>but this seems to be the response from my friends when
>i ask them who has control in their family and they
>usually say their "mom".  So, i wouldn't mind having a
>chinese guy for a husband! 
Mmm. That should be a good news to me, as well as, to many other from HK.

>Grace

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From: bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu (Billy H. Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: pretty women, good wives?
Date: 1 Oct 1992 09:43:10 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

>I think one of the main reasons that women stay off this group is that
>not many of it's participants have checked their calenders lately.
>It is 1992. Not 1892.

Darn, I could've sworn....time to invest in a calender!
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: iu051@cucs11.cs.cuhk.hk (Iu King Fung)
Subject: Re: Research Companies in Hong Kong
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 05:15:50 GMT

hhon@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Henry Hon) writes:

>Hi, folks,

>Does anybody know whether there are companies in Hong Kong that
>have R & D? I mean those similar to the university research works.

>Because I want to do some research and also have a better paid than
>in the university.

Oh! Please tell me.  I want to know that too.

K.F. Iu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: cs_rayhy@uxmail.ust.hk (YaN HO LEunG)
Subject: Re: Composer (Re: The best pop singer in HK)
Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:14:34 GMT

In article <6130120@hpopd.pwd.hp.com> yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan) writes:
>For all time best, do you forget Roman(?) Tam <Law Man>? His songs and 
>singing is (was) very good and bloody difficult to follow. But I don't like
		  ^^^^^^^^^
You must be kidding..If  Koo Ka Fai doesn't exist, he may be a hawker selling bra in  Mongkok..

>his life performance (so tape, LP or CD(?) only). Yes, Alan Tam is popular
>because his song can be followed by anybody. You can't lost tune with his
I agree. But now, those songs performed by him are `hon for`!

>songs in Karaoke. Female singer, Yan Lai (the big beast one, is it as big
>as Yip Chi Mai?).

Yan Lai, No comment on big beast creature.... :-)


Clement.