HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: DoD meets (was: Re: Euro DoD meet)
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:26:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: rigel.SHAFER.92Aug14092607
	<SHAFER.92Aug13121202@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov>
	<14AUG199203151476@erich.triumf.ca>
Organization: NASA Dryden, Edwards, Cal.

On Fri, 14 Aug 1992 10:15:00 GMT, ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid) said:

Ivan> In article <SHAFER.92Aug13121202@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov>, shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer) writes...

>I don't know about the oil weight, but the SkiDoo I drove at the
>Patriot Hills in Antarctica was stuck together with duct tape.
> 
>A quick inspection when the Denizens did Dryden indicated that
>duct tape is on the DoD mandatory equipment list.

Ivan> 	We called it "100 mph tape" at Mawson.  The only thing that would
Ivan> hold equipment on the wings of a Pilatus Porter at 100 mph.

We call it Mach 3 tape at Dryden.  We use it on the Fastest Ride.

Actually, Mach 3 tape isn't quite identical to duct/100 mph/gaffer's/EB 
tape (gaffer's is how it's known in Oz and some other Commonwealth
countries, EB is what USN submariners call it--after Electric Boat, the
people who make submarines).  Mach 3 tape is olive drab and 3 in.
wide.  Those are just details, though.

Flight test would be impossible without tape, pressure sensitive
adhesive (cloth, 3", olive) and little yellow sticky notes.
--
From: RMCCU@CUNYVM.BITNET (Robert Chambers)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Automatics
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:30:55 GMT
Organization: CUNY/UCC VM Systems

Didn't Honda have an automatic?  CX-550 or something?  it was a V-twin..

they probably didn't make too many of them tho

Robert
DoD191
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: RE Mr. Small
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:49:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Aug19.144914.18594
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <1992Aug17.152427.21275@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker) writes:
>
>In a previous article, jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker) says:

Gee, John, at least you have enough self-esteem to quote yourself.

Or were you just talking to yourself?
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
	So just where did George Bush get the idea that he gets to
			decide policy for the U.N.?
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HRC power kits.
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:16:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Aug12.151625.5562
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <169nfaINNoat@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> sandman@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Smarter than the Average Blur) writes:
>
>Apparantly I asked a real stupid question judging by the stupid
>responses I got from people. 
>
>1) Either everyone knows what an HRC Power Kit is and thinks I must
>be a super dimwit because I don't know.
>
>or
>
>2) There is no such thing as an HRC Power Kit and people think I am
>a super dimwit because I don't know.

or

3) Nobody else knows what an HRC Power Kit is, and don't want to admit
it lest you think we're all super dimwits because we don't know.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
Which is worse: using vast wealth to trounce a small country on the battlefield,
or using vast wealth to trounce several countries on the basketball court?
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From: pooder@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Don Fearn)
Subject: Re: Countersteering a shafty
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:20:09 GMT
Reply-To: Pooder@vnet.ibm.com, but I can't receive e-mail, so forget it. 
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <1992Aug13.220924.2802530@locus.com>, dana@locus.com (Dana H. Myers) writes:
|> Who else has discovered that countersteering does not appear to work
|> correctly on shaft-drive motorcycles?
|> 
|>  It must have to do with the counter-rotation of the shaft cancelling
|> out the centripetal counter-steering force, but I'm not sure how the
|> shaft-effect hike in the rear end contributes by altering the steering
|> geometry. Maybe someone can clarify this for me.
|> 
|> 
|> -- 
|>  * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ 		| Views expressed here are	*
|>  * (213) 337-5136 		| mine and do not necessarily	*
|>  * dana@locus.com  DoD #466 	| reflect those of my employer	*
|>  * "Dammit Bones, spare me the lecture and give me the shot!"   *

Geeze, Dana, ya had to do it, didn't ya.  Now there'll be post after
post after post after post after post after post after post after 
post after post after post after post after post after post after 
 . . 
about countersteering, all of them claiming to know all about how it 
*really* works, and none of them knowing $%*# about it except mine.  Well,
no one will listen to my explanation in all the noise, so I won't post it.
So there.
 

-- 

   Pooder  -  Rochester, MN     DoD# 0591 - LotN (Loser of the Number) 
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
  "What do *you* care what other people think?" -- Richard Feynman 
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
   I share garage space with:   Gretchen - '86 K75   Harvey - '72 CB500  
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From: ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: Helmets and Motorcycle Fatalities
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 17:32:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.020732.17064@ttinews.tti.com> paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein) writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.014537.17002@nas.nasa.gov> ciotti@wk42.nas.nasa.gov (Robert B. Ciotti) writes:
>+
>+ FYI - Some might be interested, here is the fatality rates for the first 
>+6 months of 1991 and 1992 for motorcyclists from the California Highway 
>+Patrol as reported in the San Jose Murkey News.
>
>Notice that the accident rate for the same period is missing.
>Fatalities per x accidents would be more meaningful, eh???

Indeed. When The Law came on in Quebec, the number of accidents declined too.
The common feeling was that this was due to people's wearing helmets with
eye protection. It would be interesting to see what happened in California,
to see if it's the same thing.

Or are people there really so wimpy as to stop riding?

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine    DoD #275
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
From: jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Drunk Cagers (Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters)
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:33:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Aug19.133339.23813
Reply-To: jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


In a previous article, jnmoyne@lbl.gov (Jean-Noel Moyne) says:

>In article <16rhcvINNdn@rodan.UU.NET> smm@uunet.uu.net (Steve Mansfield)
>writes:
>>In article <5758@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
>	As much as I hate to see drunk drivers on the road (and I have been involved
>in a hit and run accident with a car that was obviously driven by a drunk guy
>while I was with my like-new bike I had bought 2 months before (gives you a few
>reasons to hate the kind believe me, plus marks on the skin just to remember)).
>
>	As much as I despise the person, well I despise even more people that have an
>attitude like the one described above. I personally find denounciation like
>this degrading.
>
>	What about trying to talk to the guy for example ? With a few well chosen
>words you can make him feel very miserable. There are other ways than pure
>repretion like this, and especially vicious denounciation like what you've
>described.

Drunk drivers deserve absolutrly NO mercy.  They are aware of the risks
of drinking and driving.  Everybody should know anyway.  If they don't,
ignorance is not an acceptable excuse.  They make a conscious decision
to get behind the wheel of a car.  If they're inconsiderate enough to get
behind the wheel of a car, it seems obvious that they have little regard 
for their own lives, and even less regard for the unlucky people that
happen to be in the drunk's way.

Making them feel miserable is NOT enough.  They must be arrested.  They
must understand, without a doubt, that what they are doing is
reprehensible.  They must be prosecuted and punished.  There is NO
excuse for their actions.

Unfortunately, once they sober up and get a lawyer, they'll get off.
We've all heard of the repeat offenders that don't get anything in the
way of punishment until they kill somebody.  Even then, the chances
that they'll go to jail are slim.  Recently, a man in Cleveland was
sentenced to 30 days in jail because his dog took a dump in a city park.
When was the last time you heard of a first time convicted drunken
driver getting the same sentence.  Go sit in a traffic court sometime.
The results will appall you.

Drunk drivers will not receive any kind of compassion from me, nor do I
feel that they deserve any.  This is a problem that is personal to me.
Drunk drivers kill.  They ruin lives.  
-- 
------------------------------------------------------------>DarkMan-------->
Case Western Reserve University,  Cleveland, Ohio            DoD #650
Anyone know where a mechanical engineer can get a job?
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From: olivers@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Oliver Schonborn)
Subject: deflating tires
Summary: the front tire is loosing air (half in 3 days).  Valve?
Organization: University of Toronto Physics/Astronomy/CITA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:47:55 GMT

Hello fellow motorcycle-lovers,

The front tire (tubeless) on my bike was changed recently, but looses air (from
the required 41psi to 20psi) in 3 days.  Could that be the valve?  How can I
check that and fix it (put grease?)?

Thanks a lot,

Oliver
-- 
| Oliver Schoenborn           	     | "The World is my Country, 	   |
| 1980 Yamaha 650 Special	     |  The Human Race is my Race,	   |
| olivers@helios.physics.utoronto.ca |  The Spirit of Man is my God,       |
| olivers@utorphys.bitnet 	     |  The Future of Mankind is my Heaven"|
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Warning! "Fuck" and "Shit" appear in this article
Keywords: horns
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:49:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Aug20.144905.21142
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <4c#n8bq.shoun@netcom.com> shoun@netcom.com (Lissa Shoun) writes:
>I almost forgot to ask my question. I'm trying to decide what horn to get.
>Everyone seems to have Fiamms but I was wondering about Spagthorpe
>Electronics. The two most suitable horns for a bike are the Spagthorpe
>Conure and the Cockatoo. Does anyone know which is louder? And is there
>any mail order supply for these horns? Road Rider is out of stock and
>they don't know when they will be getting any.

Go for the Cockatoo.  The Conure is actually a mechanical horn,
originally intended to be fitted on bikes with sidecars.  (Specifically,
the mounting hardware and lever handle fit best in the "Suckling Pup" model
sidecar.)  Single rider use is slow, at best, and is generally used
for after-the-fact abuse of the cager who managed to ignore the
screech of the Cockatoo.  (Apparently, the sight of a leather-helmeted
rider astride a WarDog, looking at the driver while yanking the lever
with a big shit-eating (sorry) smile is, to say the least, intimidating.)

>"Nothing is as overrated as a bad ride, or as underrated as a good post."

I've heard that somewhere before.  Is it Goethe?
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
George Bush claims to have neglected domestic issues in favor of foreign policy.
    Looking at Iraqi civilians, I'm glad we didn't have his full attention.
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From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Subject: Re: WIFE VS. BIKE
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:54:13 GMT

In article <oj0fseg@fido.asd.sgi.com> spencer@hailwood.asd.sgi.com (Paul Spencer) writes:
>hamid@rs.com says:
>> A (married) neighbor of a friend of mine brought home a beautiful CBR1000 one evening.
>> He came over to my friend's house and said his wife wasn't too happy about the bike
>> (which we knew already due to the shouting and screaming we had heard). He stood there
>> like a man and said very firmly: "if it's between the bike and her, she's gotta go!"
>> The next day the bike was gone.
>
>Yeah, but was he on the bike when it left??
>

If I may brag a bit: The most negative response I've heard from my old lady
when bringing another bike home was " are you going to fix it or use it for
parts?" Typically comments are more like "Oh that's nice, honey." I think I'll
keep her.

Jeff Achenbach
achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BMW Service Gouge?
Date: 18 Aug 92 02:47:28 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Washington State University

In article <6583@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM> jearls@tekig6.PEN.TEK.COM (Jeffrey David Earls) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.181639.1@acfcluster.nyu.edu> mullignj@acfcluster.nyu.edu writes:
>>
>>  [... expressions of dismay deleted ...]
>>Maybe I'm pissed cause it's rained the last two weekends.
>>
>>I mean, damn, I just spent $9,000 for the bike (or more accurately my
>>credit union spent $9,000 for the bike (I am now enslaved to them)), I
>>ride it for one rainy weekend and I'm stuck with a $260.00 bill!
>>
>>What does everyone else pay for their "authorized serive"?  What 
>>should I expect to pay for Service I and Service II?
>>
>
>
>Err, ah.  I paid $16 for my 600 mile service.  The dealer thanked me 
>for buying my FJ through him and only asked that I pay for the new
>oil and filter.
>
>
>YMMV.
>
>--Jeff

Just for the record, Jeff and I deal with the same dealer. :-)

Ray's Yamaha in Lewiston, Idaho.  I have no financial involvement
other than as a satisfied customer.

Ride Free,

Bill
________________________________________________________________
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Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:02:50 -0400 
From: Mark Joseph Andy <ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Lane Splitting (was Re: Cager penile size (was Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters))
	<BD.92Aug20092400@fluent.UUCP>
Distribution: usa

Howdy,
bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby) writes:
> Are there semi-defined rules of conduct for lane splitting (when it's 
> okay, when it's jerk-like)?

Yes.  Getting people to agree on the rules is another matter. :-)

My personal rules for lane splitting (here in Pgh, where it is illegal
btw) are as follows:

	Stopped Traffic: split if there will be a huge wait, and keep
speed differential down to the point so that you can stop if someone
decides to be a dick and try and block you.

	Slow Moving Traffic:  In a rush hour situation, I'd say that
traffic going over 15 mph or so is fast enough so that you shouldn't
split lanes.  As a general rule, anything where you can run in 1st
without slipping the clutch is fast enough.

	Fast Moving Traffic: Normally no lane spliting at all.
However, every now and then you come up on the 2 grandma vs. grandpa
deadlock race on the three lane highway without much other traffic.
If they don't respond to normal signals (ie. flashing light, waiting
appropriate amount of time etc.), they pick the biggest gap and blast
it.  Don't forget to tuck your shoulder out of the way of the mirror
:-)

Mark
(who's probably as much squid as responsible rider, reach for that salt)

| Mark J. Andy			WERA NV #813		AMA #700560	|
| ma1w+@cmu.edu			KotR			DoD #813	|
| Co-founder/Rider, Team RISC and Two Geeks Racing			|
| '82 Seca 650 (street), '85 RZ350 (track), '87 KDX200 (the humbler)	|
| I want RZ350 parts like steering damper, fork brace, SS lines, etc... |
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From: hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca (Craig Hamm)
Subject: Windshield polish, saga continues
Organization: Ocean Sciences Centre
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:15:29 GMT


	NOBODY, in this place has heard of Meguir's plastic polish.

	However, an airline shop told me about 'Micromesh', which is
	like a super-super-fine sandpaper, suitable for motorcycles
	speedboat windshields etc.  

	Then an plexiglass place told me about Novus, a plastic polish.
	It goes for about $15 per 8oz., Canadian.  The guy said he'd let
	me try a little bit of it to see if I wanted to order some.

	Has anybody heard of these other products?


-- 
  
    Craig Hamm, 		From 'Viz', Victor Pratt, the stupid twat
    Memorial University	        Biker: "My bike's got a flat, Vic"
    DoD #1500,           	Vic:   "Really? Whereabouts is it living?"
    '81 Maxim 650 
    ----
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:32:25 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: na
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH


bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:

>laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott) writes:
>
>>if you're serious about teaching this guy a lesson and have balls, get
>>the phone number (if i have to tell you how to do this, you're too
>>young to be reading this), call him up and leave a nice message on the
>
>I am 48.  I haven't a clue what you are referring to.  I'd love to know
>how to get the phone number of the various ass-holes that cut me off
>while I am riding a bike, given that I know only their plates.

I don't know what Laurie's technique is, but here's one. (Please recall 
that a premise of Laurie's was that you followed the offending rider home.)
                                                                     ^^^^

When you have the address, go to the local public library and look for 
something called a criss-cross directory, or sometimes an address directory 
or even a reverse telephone directory.  They are put out by companies for 
use by sales people, and are telephone books that are organized by street 
instead of by name.  Look up the address, and you can get a name and 
phone number.

Doesn't work for _small_ towns, but most larger areas have this kind of 
directory in the library.


-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
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From: cbrooks@ms.uky.edu (Clayton Brooks)
Subject: Re: UK_DoD list, I think...
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 03:31:05 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:

>Clayton Brooks (cbrooks@ms.uky.edu) wrote:
>: In article <1992Aug20.000430.7273@spuddy.uucp> biker@spuddy.uucp (Nick Pettefar) writes:
>: >This is I think, all the UK members of the DoD.....................
>: 
>: Not quite:
>: 
>: [list of people from Univ. of {Kentucky,Kansas} deleted]
>: 
>: :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-) 

>I thought that uky was the University of Kentucky, not the United Kingdom
>of England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales.  Strike me down if I am
>wrong!

I thought the :-)'s were enough but I guess it might be nice to explain.

In the USA, we tend to refer to many of our universities, especially 
the state supported ones, by their initials.

Even with the initials UK, it is clear to anyone in Kentucky and the 
neighbo(u)ring states that one is talking about the school.  The subject 
of collegiate sports alone comes up much more often than 
international affairs :-(

I suspect the same could be said about Kansas.
-- 
 Clayton T. Brooks       _,,-^`--.   From the heart          cbrooks@ms.uky.edu
 722 POT U o'Ky    .__,-'    *    \   of the blue           cbrooks@ukma.bitnet
 Lex. KY 40506   _/              ,/    grass and   {rutgers,uunet}!ukma!cbrooks
 606-257-6807   (__,-----------''   bourbon country    AMA NMA MAA AMS ACBL DoD
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From: grw@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gary Wasserman)
Subject: R100GS Miscellaneous and Trip to Portland
Reply-To: grw@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gary Wasserman)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 21:23:05 GMT



I get so little time to post and read these days.  Gee, the net
must be pretty happy.... ;-)

The Parabellum windscreen for the R100GS is great but the medium
is too tall for me.  I'm 6'0".  I installed the screen before heading
to the BMW MOA National Rally last month.  It made the trip much more
comfortable.  Real Denizens probably won't like it.

At the rally I bought a Corbin dual seat for the GS.  At first it
was very comfortable but as the seat broke in it transmitted more
and more vibration to me.  I finally removed the seat this week and
reinstalled the stock seat.  The vibration had gotten so bad that
it blurred my vision.  Putting the stock seat back cured the 
problem.  Potential buyers beware!!  I have yet to talk to Corbin
to see if they'll take the seat back.

The problem with the Corbin only shows up with heavy people like
me.  The people at my shop rode the bike and didn't feel the
vibration.  I weigh around 220 and most of the shop folks are under
200.  Any skinny Denizens out there who want to buy a Corbin seat??

I'm headed out to Portland, OR tomorrow morning.  I hope to meet
up with the Denizens of the GPNW on Sunday if all goes well.  Martin,
are you listening??!!!

I noticed but did not follow the thread on Fiamm horns.  If anyone
is attempting to install the horns on a 91 or later GS or GS/PD and
wants some pointers let me know.  Beware that the wiring diagram in
the current version of the Haynes manual is WRONG for the 91 and later
R100GS bikes!

I still have not seen the Tony Wang DoD Polo Shirts.  Tony, que pasa?
Too bad.  I was going to wear mine to the Golf Tourny I'm going to
out in Portland.  C'est la vie.

-Gary

-- 
Gary Wasserman      "A completely irrational attraction to BMW bikes"
Interleaf, Inc.      Prospect Place, 9 Hillside Ave, Waltham, MA 02154
grw@ileaf.com        617-290-4990x3423 FAX 617-290-4970       DoD#0216
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