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What Happened To Me In The Library 10
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26)  Having satisfied my research responsibilities for the
day, I go home to a good home-cooked meal, and find my tc/sw
in tears, because of having received a long telephone call
from her father and step-mother who want to know why the
Sanford police have been questioning them about the mysterious
death by the lake.  I say what I always say:  "I know nothing
about all of this."  And no, I do *not* know anyone named
George or Lulu or whatever.  I haven't been to the library in
three months.  The staff can testify to that.... "They almost
took away my faculty study....  and I can't even remember to
return those books."  To which my tc/sw can only reply:
"You poor baby.  Have some soup."
.
27)  So, after a long day, I am finally able to settle down
and have a good nappie-poo, interrupted only momentarily by
the vision of Agnes floating on the algae-smooth surface of
the channel that delivers the contents of the Stockholm sewer
to the river that delivers those contents to the nearest
foreign neighbors.   Agnes raises her head, her golden tresses
stuck to her elegantly elongated neck, smiles, and says, in
a thick Armenian-Portuguese accent:  "More matter with less
art, if you please si vous plait."  I sleep the sleep of
those who have nothing left to confess, emptied, so to speak,
like the sewers of Stockholm, the truth has been told and so
to rest, angels wing thee to thy nest.  Amen.
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--ggs (glad to be done with that....)
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Reply-To:     Doris Smith <dorisann@tenet.edu>
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Howdy from the green place
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> The school teachers on here could probably use a case of the stuff....
>
How insightful of you.  This is a teetotaling teacher talking to you - the
first taste of alcohol I've had in upteen years -  and the last -  was in
Ireland - a cup of mead at a medieval castle where we ate dinner one
evening and a cup of Irish coffee at a pub located seemingly out beyond
the beyond.  The mead was interesting just to know what mead tasted like.
The Irish coffee was so strong I almost spewed it all over the gentle
colleen who was singing to us.  But for some reason things have been
piling up on me both personally and professionally and I'd almost welcome
a case of *the stuff.*

doris
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Date: 10 Sep 1992 04:05:44 GMT
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In a previous article, dorisann@TENET.EDU (Doris Smith) says:

>> Does this mean I can go down to the safety deposit box at Citibank and take
>> Whiteout (tm) to my birth certificate?  8-)
>> <sniff>
>>
>> John "Yea, and Mean & NASTY too!" W.
>
>Yes, son.  But stop sniffing that stuff, it's not good for you.  We want
>to make a good impression on our relatives.

Yeah, Whiteout up your nose looks a trifle odd, to say the least.  And leave
that poor birth certificate alone - sounds like it's gone through enough as
it is....


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<     Carol, delighted to find you <exactly where I left you>

Welcome back, Carol!   I missed your witty ripostes.  And your plain
vanilla posts, too.

Would have said this earlier, but we lost our internet connection for 30
hours, and let me tell you it was hell, being cut off from the world like
that.  Words-l withdrawals.  Then it was so fun to get 30 hours worth of
e-mail *backwards*!  I saw answers before I got the questions.  I read
from Friday to Wednesday.  Actually, it was rather amusing.  If you ever
get bored you should try reading a days worth of e-mail from evening to
morning.  It *is* strange.  But then, it is pretty strange reading it
in order, too.  What can I say.

--Betty (happy to be back among the living) z
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL>
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	I was a little surprised that nobody commented on the ambiguity in what
	I said that started this thread.  The ambiguity was not intentional when

Do you *really* want us to point out every time you say something ambiguous???
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From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Father's Day, Anne, Father's Day

>  Well, I can see that there is genuine venom in this, which I find
>interesting in a way, because I am again reminded of how unpredictable
>such outbursts are. Also it reminds me of the one time that I set out

No venom--no *genuine* venom--Torquemada.  As a Polish friend of
mine says--it's about the only English he knows--Take it easy.

Fanglessly
-Mka
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From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Today's pop quiz

>>I remember in my Dutch class that our teacher would ask someone how
>>to phrase some construct.  They'd answer.  She'd nod.  She'd go on
>>to ask every other student who would give a similar answer.  Only after
>>she'd heard them all did she say they were all wrong.  And say that it
>>was something so basic no-one should have got it wrong.  In fact, if
>
>*BAD* pedagogical practice!  You merely reinforce the incorrect information.

I don't know. I would remember the correct construction forever if
something like this happened in class.

tushar
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:52:31 EDT
From:         PBARFOOT%SUVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject:      calendar

  I haven't been reading everything but I see a bit of discussion
of birthdays and other special events. Has anybody offered to
do the Official Words-l Calendar yet ? Has anybody offered to
pose for wordsler of the month ? I would be willing to make
a chronological list of significant dates and repost it. It
won't be fancy and have things flashing and it won't have pictures
but maybe somebody else could do that part.
                                           Br Paul
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This is a test of the "msgdhost not found error".  This is only a test.
If this were an actual post, there would be quote brockets and an occasional
bad pun.   If this shows up anywhere but the Black Hole of alt.dev.null, 
please emit a loud screeching *breeeeeep* to signify its reception.

This concludes this test of the "msgdhost not found" error.

We now return to our regular tirade.
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From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: hi, y'all
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>
> This looked like a fitting title for me to make my grand re-entrance to Words.
> I missed this a lot over the summer. How are you all doing?
>
>                         Lisa

Hi, Lisa...I'm glad you're back...I missed you!
ndh
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Re[4]: Brother Barbara
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              4 Sep 1992 23:03:51 GMT from <bayla@CASBAH.ACNS.NWU.EDU>

On Fri, 4 Sep 1992 23:03:51 GMT Bayla Singer said:
>billboards around here point out lately, with a multi-racial,
>multi-occupational insignia group of poster boys), "REAL men don't use
>pornography."  (Honest, i swear it, Girl Scout's Honor and all!)

Gag me with a <sexual organ of your choice>......

Yeah, I believe it......probably the same "real men" with big guns to
compensate.....and the same ones who go around raping and pillaging
in many parts of the world....probably including the ones in south florida
and return cuba to its {rightful owners} from this side of the straits....

dan
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Posted on 8 Sep 1992 at 09:31:41 by Entropy Warrior
>I'd introduce a new superhero from another list:  Rapeman -->

He is actually a Japanese comic book character, and has been for some time.

Karen
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Plumbing Woes
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>> Know anyone who wants to buy a house?  Nice house, nice neighborhood,
>> near Providence, low price - mine is for sale.

>Does your job come with it?  If so, when shall I arrive?
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

	Gee, Natalie, I didn't know you wanted to take over the ownership of
	STATLG-L.  I hope you'll let me stay on as a co-owner.

	Ohhhh, you meant that job where she gets *paid*??  Never mind...

[I can vouch for the niceness of house and neighborhood (and the current owner,
for that matter), but I doubt that Natalie (or I) would find the price <low>.]
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Posted on 4 Sep 1992 at 22:48:09 by Anne Burton Harwell
>> What's a.f.u.?  And how can "huckle" be a morpheme?  Doesn't matter
>
>Since I am NOT a Usenetter (yet...hurry up Austin with my nntp feed), I
>can only guess this was typo on GT's part and he really meant a.e.u, or
>alt.english.usage.

Why isn't it alt.folklore.urban?

Karen
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Aspiration
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> re: usenet, gateways
> Subj:	Re: Aspiration

Huh?
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
     whose former student just intercepted a crucial pass and whose
     other former student made the resulting touchdown  :-)
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Date:         Sat, 12 Sep 1992 22:02:40 -0500
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Hopefully
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>
> Because it's used incorrectly so often. Now, people often say "hopefully
> you will like the explanation." A correct usage of the word would be "she
> hopefully opened the letter." It means to do something in the hope of
> something else. It does not serve as a substitute for "I hope."
>
> -abh

What abh said.  <Hopefully> is an adverb and needs to be used as one.
Doris
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 22:59:53 EDT
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Subject:      Re: Aspiration
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              at Sep 4, 92 9:39 pm

Natalie asks:

> What's a.f.u.?
alt.folklore.urban (??)

> What's a huckle?
Don't know.
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From:         mgarber@DHVX20.CSUDH.EDU
Subject:      Re: Plumbing Woes
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What is statlg-l/  Marilyn
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From:         mgarber@DHVX20.CSUDH.EDU
Subject: re: family
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Its time for someone to draw a family tree, so we who don't
know all the players have something like a scorecared
Marilyn
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Today's pop quiz
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> Amazingly, we remember the strangest things.  Tushar, arithmatic in your

Hopefully, nobody got upset by Doris's use of a sentence modifier.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: EMAIL TO MY SCREEN--VILANELLE
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So far Tushar has not said no to the addition of the poem to ftp archives.
But he hasn't said yes either.  Do we assume that the absence of no is
yes?
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         "tk0jut1@niu.bitnet Jim Thomas"
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Subject:      Disinterested (part 2)

Heh! Great line I heard from Chet Chitchat (for WLUP fans) today:

"Bugsy Siegal would shoot a man who said 'disinterested' instead
of 'uninterested.'"

Jim (anti-prescriptivists with a .45 are usually convincing) Thomas
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From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK%IUBACS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Repeat performances

>But what about making people who can obviously already write take
>freshman comp?  I had to at Chico, and I already had enough credits to be
>a senior when I started.  Oh, I suppose I could have found some way
>around it, but I knew the A would do nice things to my GPA.
>S

I got stuck in first year Greek (*no*, *not* Geek), among other
courses I had the pleasure of repeating.  (Back to private c.
public schools--after Exeter, the requirements at Penn together
with a certain inflexibility, lead to a two year nap).  Never
went to class, wrote a perfect exam, and the guy gave me a B.
And *now* that guy shows up prominently on another list here in
etherspace!  (CLASSICS@UWAVM).  Will past lives never cease
coming back to haunt?

-Mka
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From:         Carol_Carmick@BEAV.INTERSOLV.COM
Subject:      Re: The [t] in often
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>>Droby: "I also pronouce the [t] in _often_, which I've
>>        noticed many (most?) people don't."

>My high school English teacher Mrs. Tranberry, who was on hand
>to watch English flourish from about 1066 on up, insisted that we
>not pronounce the [t] in _often_.

>     In any event, I go t-less often.


     "Chief among the overnice pronunciations is the sounding of the t
     in often.  It should be seen and not heard."

                              Wilson Follett, _Modern American Usage_
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Tongues, Jasmine, and Football (was Re: To
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> just want to remind all you fans out there that when you hear
> *NCSU*, remember that you knew me first.

First as in before we hear of NCSU as a football power, or first as in
our first thoughts of NCSU?  It's too late for that.  I have at least
two friends with degrees from NCSU and have known them both a long time.
One has a PhD from there in Animal Science and one a PhD from there in
Mechanical Engineering.  And now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure
that one of my office mates when I was a TA at UT had an MA from NCSU.
So my association with NCSU predates my awareness of the existence of
its handsome, charming, sexy Professor of Spanish.  Now, of course, I
first think of giggles when I hear NCSU mentioned.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Posted on 8 Sep 1992 at 17:21:28 by CROSEN@BGSUOPIE.BITNET
>But perhaps she befuddles.

Marty!  No!  I *teach*!!!

Karen
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Subject:      Something old, something new

>> > >  And pleading to antiquity isn't
>> > > a valid rationalisation for using a meaning of a word totally
>> > > counter to the more common common understanding.
>> > I couldn't agree more fully!  I've argued this point a thousand times!
>> > I certainly wasn't pleading to antiquity for anything!
>> >    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
>>
>> That's strange; you appeared to be arguing the opposite.
>
>Appearances can obviously be deceiving.  I have never argued such a
>thing, nor would I ever.  I find it a stupid argument.
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

OK, I think I understand the exchange.  A couple of questions,
since in the legal biz this all presents some problems.

1.  When Congress passes a tax law relating to "gifts," should
the common *present*  understanding of gift be read into the
statute, or should the (ancient) common law definition of gift be used?
(Assume Congress, as ever, fails to say *what* it means.)

NB:  I have no ax(e) to grind here.  I just want the reaction of
folk who don't know a springing executory interest from a fee
tail from statutes in derogation of the common law.

2.  Or more generally, when a legislature uses terms that have
well-defined (no, Tushar--I'm *not* talking about abstract
algebra) common law meanings but somewhat different meanings
among The People,  which meanings to choose and why?

-Mka
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>>       Is it time to place a birthday list in WORDS-L's FTP area?

I'll add my b-day.  July 20.  Who is compiling all this data, anyway?

Betty (remember Neil Armstrong and 1st Apollo Moon landing ) Z
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> > My only request is, if my <tc/sw> turns up at any of these
> > wordsler reunions, everyone *please* act as if you never heard
> > of her, *please*!!!   I beginning to think that I am IRTN.
>
> 	"Oh, so *you're* the tc/sw!  We've heard so much... I mean,
> uh, why we never suspected that handsome giggilo was attached.. I
> mean, uh.  Well, you know!"
>
> Rita

I always knew I could count on the Czarina to say the <right thing>...
(No, honey, I never saw this person before in my life, but I *think*
her name is Natalie...)
--ggs
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In a previous article, boorstein%umbsky.dnet@NS.UMB.EDU (Joan Boorstein) says:


>Thanks for the suggestion -- rang a bell with me -- looks like some Austrian
>bitnet nodenames -- I'm going to try that.
	Yodel when you say that, pard'ner.:-)

>No reports back yet from Brown that they could not deliver the Hong Kong mail.
	Brown always was a little weird, and the mailer over there has
always been even weirder. Have you tried gatewaying it through Rice?

>Is the list of ISO country codes on line anywhere?  I'd guess that it might
>be in one of the mail group FAQs.  Any suggestions.
I know I just saw it....it's in my "home" site's LIBServer someplace....
Which ones are you after?  Bulgaria?  I'll see what I can dig out and post it.
Now you've got *me* curious.:-)

>--- Joan (boorstein%umbsky.dnet@ns.umb.edu)
>
-- 
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	- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
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From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Garcia Marquez
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              13, 92 4:55 pm

> Oh, that one's *easy*! The ants eat the candy animals,
> and the birds, when they stop singing, eat the ants,
> now plump and delicious.

	But.. what fattened the baby?

Rita

Who thought Remedios the Beauty was the
*least* spooky thing in that novel..
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