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From: pdsmith.mitre.org (Pat Smith)
Subject: Re: Orson thinks he's Tom Cruise
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:09:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.222838.12467@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>, jeremy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (jeremy.l.radosh) writes:
> 
> This is a posting which kind of follows the "Monsters" thread, but it
> isn't really about monsters.  Someone mentioned how their cat attacks the
> carpet.  Well, my Orson does his thing with the throw rug in the livingroom.
> 
> My livingroom has wood floors, and I have a rug in the center (4x8) which
> has nothing on it (no tables, etc.) and is not secured to the floor (no non-
> slip mats, etc.).  When I am playing chase the paper ball with Orson, he
> alays positions himself so that I have to throw the paper ball towards the
> living room rug.  He gets up to about 60mph (approx.) and heads straight
> for the rug!!! Ideally the ball has landed on the rug (he has me trained
> to center the ball on the rug), and he then "lands" himself on the ball.
> The momentum he carries (he's 18 lbs) makes him and the rug slide about
> 7 feet.  He loves this!!!!!
> 
> Orson doesn't even need me to do this.  Often when I come home from work,
> the rug is all the way in the corner of the living room, scrunched up in
> a pile.  G*d only knows what Orson is chasing/doing while I'm away, but
> I suspect that he turns on the stero (he can us a remote) and plays
> like Tom Cruise in "Risky Business".
> 
> Does anyone else's cat play the "rug slide game"???
> 
> Jeremy
> 
> -- 
>   (\_/)          " Love to eat them mousies,
>   |* *|              Mousie's what I love to eat.
>   \>Y</            Bite they little heads off...
>    `U'               Nibble on they tiny feet."       B.Kliban `75
> 
>
Yes I have one cat that loves the exact rug game.  The rug is pretty tattered
after 2 years and I refuse to replace it.  I also have an oriental rug that
stays rolled up in a closet as my darling cats tried to destroy that too. 
Perhaps when they are older I can use my rug again.  Till then, I am 
protecting my investment.  Don't you love decorating your house to suit 
the cats?   I could never declaw them so I tolerate the damage cause they
are so darn adorable. 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ses3n@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Sharon Elizabeth Silverman)
Subject:  a request and a story...
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:14:29 GMT


	Hi! First of all, I'd like to ask if anyone has the text to
Ode to Spot (Data's poetry). If so, please send it to me. I understand
it was posted recently, but I couldn't find it in the backlog.

	Second: My cat Fluff is 18, and I've had her forever. I'm one
of those college-attending cat-lovers! Anyway, she was in excellent
health (bright-eyed, bushy-tailed, and more active than me!) until she 
had the bad luck to assert her autonomy around a large dog. He picked 
her up and shook her, smacking her head on the ground and causing spinal
trauma. She has recovered from the concussion just fine, but her back 
legs are still not up to specs. She can walk, but resembles a drunk
cowboy after a 300 mile ride - ie bowlegged and *very* wobbly.
	She was in deep shock, and apparently suffered some kidney 
damage. Now she needs a prescription diet. This gets more complicated
because she has about 3 teeth left - the ONLY sign of her age. I'm 
really sure why I'm posting this - except to collect some commiseration'
from other cat lovers. I love her very, very much - life without her is
just unthinkable. For a while, it looked like it might happen.
	Fortunatly, Isis or whoever was thinking about us, and she will
recover. She will NOT like being an exclusively indoor cat, though.

	So far this has all cost me $560. I'm sure the bloodwork, etc.
is not over yet. I am student, as noted above, and VERY broke. This
is exacerbated by my housing situation - I am paying full rent in a 
two-bedroom apt., thanks to a roommate who royally screwed me over.
Anybody willing to donate to the Fluff Fund, let me know. :-)
					Sharon



    or post it! 

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: cldavies@nyx.cs.du.edu (cindy davies)
Subject: Re: a ride in the car - peacefully!
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	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 15:59:57 GMT

In article <1e52tdINN9b0@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> at881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (N. French) writes:
>
>   Spanky has never minded riding in the car - unless he was
>confined in the Evil Carrier of Damnation. Then, he would
>scream, holler, bite the door, etc. But, it had to be done when
>nobody else was in the car, because he wanders a lot.
>
>put him in a pillowcase
>for the trip. It was perfect! He curled up in it and was very calm

Yep.  We have a "Gym bag" type carrier for our animals.  It is big enough
for the mini schnauser or two cats (not however a schnauser and a cat)
and it does not seem to stress the animals nearly as much as a hard plastic
carrier.  The gym bag has lots of nice hooks and straps so it can be fastened
down with a seat belt.  I realize it wouldn't work to ship an animial in, but
it is nice for drives across town to grandma's house or to the vet.




--

TNSTAAFD -- There's No Such Thing As A Free Dog.

cldavies@silver.sdsmt.edu        cldavies@nyx.cs.du.edu
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From: rusty@nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov (Kenneth Hall)
Subject: Re: rubber bands and milk rings
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:28:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.225636.3335@pellns.alleg.edu>, dblackbu@alleg.edu (Dave Blackburn) writes...
>My mail to Collene bounced.... 
>In article <4209@unisql.UUCP> collene@unisql.UUCP (Collene Pearce) writes:
>|
>|My precious Tamora (2yr old, red persian, indoor only) has been after
>|my couch again.  She only scratches it when I am gone (during the day). 
> 
>(deletions)
>|
>Favorite cat toys at my house are those foam rubber golf balls, and
>the lid from a can of cat food which has become *the* Fetch Toy, it flies like  
>a frisbee, makes a lot of noise, and in a few months has not yet gashed my  
>bare foot open first thing in the morning.
>When I put fresh-ground black pepper on the couch, it deters them. For a  
>couple days anyway. If anyone mails you a really good suggesstion about  
>furniture deterral, I'd appreciate your forwarding it.
>Thanks
>--
> 
No offense, but you know better than to step on that lid, it sounds 
very dangerous to me to be throwing a sharp object like a cat food lid 
for a cat to fetch.  I personally would not even hold the lid down for 
them to like out of concern they could cut their tongue.


Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer)
Subject: Re: Welcome to the First Cat (Socks)
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:11:25 GMT


Did anyone else see the "Weekend Update" on Saturday Night Live last
night?  They had a picture of Socks (cute tuxedo cat), saying it would
be the first time a cat had lived in the White House since Nancy
Reagan left (picture of Socks next to picture of Nancy).  Ooooooh, how
catty!  :-)




--
Vicki Holzhauer, National Center for Atmospheric Research
Boulder, Colorado / / / /  vicki@ncar.ucar.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: judy@evolving.com (Judy Bettinger)
Subject: Just say no?
Summary: Valium for kitties
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:14:12 GMT
Organization: Evolving Systems, Inc.


Am I just being a puritan, or does this sound a little wierd to you
guys too?  My husband took Bast back to the vet to have her teeth cleaned, and
also mentioned the problem we've had with her peeing on the floor.  The vet
said that this indeed was most likely a reaction to our having brought a
second cat into the house.  (No physical problem evident.) So, in addition 
to Kitty Scope for Fresh Breath, he sent Bast home with an envelope of 
Valium.  Since aspirin is about the strongest thing I ever take myself, 
I found this somewhat alarming.

Do we really have to dope her up to control this problem??  She and Felix
have both been in solitary for the last week, and my vote is for giving that
an extended try before resorting to drugging her.  What's the net.opinion?  
Should I trust this vet?
-- 
Judy Bettinger (judy@evolving.com)       < |/      Friends don't let friends
Evolving Systems, Inc.                    :o<)     do MS-DOS.
Denver, Colorado                         < |\
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: amd@ghost.mit.edu (Ann M. Davis)
Subject: A.C.S. - Another Cat Story
Organization: MIT Center for Space Research
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:50:24 GMT


Just something cute my kitten did that I wanted to share.


Last night I got home from work, groceries in hand.  After giving 
Tess (8 mos.) her obligatory cuddle (shorter than usual because of 
frozen foods), I went into the kitchen to put the groceries away.  
Anyway, I was sitting at the table talking to my roommate and the 
kitten was underfoot.  I went to pick her up, but she wouldn't 
let me, she just ran to the door of  the kitchen. I got up and 
followed her, and she raced into the living room.  When I got 
there, she was sitting in the middle of the floor, waiting for me 
to play with her.  It was so cute.

Of course, this is the same cat that drops sponge balls on me when
I'm sleeping, so that I can throw them for her.  I ran the yardstick
under the stove last night and came up with three sponge balls, two
ping pong balls, and a pen.

*Sigh*  I love my cat. :-)


	Ann
--

Ann M. Davis
amd@space.mit.edu			 "Choose your battles wisely"
MIT Center for Space Research		
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From: 00kacohn@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Tail names
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:20:02 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's


     I'm glad to see that some other "cat people" have discovered _Tailchaser's
Song_, for I have enjoyed it myself.  My oldest cat is named Roofshadow, as a 
matter of fact (she's tortoiseshell instead of gray, but just as noble and
loving as her namesake)...

Casey
From: LIPSCOJA@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Andy Lipscomb)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: gayfolk and cats
Date: 19 Nov 92 04:07:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Nov19.040743.16495
Organization: Vanderbilt University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.21

> Situational catophilia, someone similiar to situational homosexuality on
              ^^^^^^^^^^
The word is 'ailurophilia.'


Andy Lipscomb
lipscoja@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Bitnet: lipscoja@vuctrvax)
Don't blame me, I voted Libertarian.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: feldman@flash.crd.ge.com (Sandra F Feldman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Feline Hierarchies
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:09:30 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

Is it possible that the Top Cats allow the Lesser Cats to eat out of the food
bowl?  I haven't yet decided for sure whether Tom or Pepper is Top Cat.  However,
whenever Pooky, a 6 mo. old female kitten, tries to invade their food, they
allow it!  They will nose each other out of the way if they find themselves 
forced to share, but they will just sit and watch Pooky or else they will cry for
me to take Pooky away.  I've seen the same behavior between Snooky and Pooky,
and again I suspect that Snooky is higher than Pooky in the hierarchy.

I think that Tom and Pepper have managed to share the Top Cat post.  Pepper
always gets the food in the first dish.  Tom always gets the food in the right
dish.  So, if you fill the left dish and then the right dish, everything is fine.
Try and fill the right dish first, and both cats go for the food at the same
time and then they have to figure out which one of them needs to switch to
the other dish.

Sandy
(GE has no opinion on cats.  It just doesn't allow them in the labs.)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: myers@nosc.mil (Margaret E. Myers)
Subject: Re: Cats Under Beds
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:59:00 GMT

In <1992Nov17.220703.12813@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> magarret@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (COMPUTER DUDETTE) writes:
	<stuff deleted>
>I want to get a little friend for her now, and was thinking about the Humane 
>Society, but after reading all the horror stories, I am not so sure!  I am FOR 
>declawing (please, no flames), and they probably would think me a monster, but 
>I would also want the new kitty declawed as well.  They would be strictly 
>indoor cats, and Chelsea would always get her claws caught in something, not to
>mention she was clawing my new drapes.  There is not anything I would not do 
>for her, I love her so much, and I would hope the Humane Society would be able 
>to see this in my behavior, whether I declaw or not.  I am hoping a little 
>buddy will perk her up some, she seems so lazy!  Well, at least until time for 
>me to go to bed, then she likes to play "attack the feet under the bed" and 
>play with her fur mousie!

In San Diego we have both the Humane Society (a private organization) and
the city (or is it county) run Animal Control Shelter.  Perhaps your city
has the same thing. I have never tried to adopt an animal from the city
shelter but I can't imagine them putting you through the third degree.
They don't even make people sign their animals in.  They have various
size cages out front so the cowards can just drive up, drop the animal(s)
off and drive away.  It is a heart wrenching place to visit. The attendant
told my friend and I that they put the kitties to sleep 3 days after they
receive them. These are deserving kitties too!

Just a thought...

Margaret

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: kwilkman@roguecom (Kathleen Wilkman)
Subject: Re: My kitty's ill, and a question
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:04:43 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: mentor
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

In article <SDY.92Nov20102007@bcstec.boeing.com>, sdy@bcstec.boeing.com (Ugly Bag of Mostly Water) writes:
|> 
|> Sob story first:
|>   Well yesterday was my birthday and I had to take my (poor) Fila (7yr old,
|>   fixed, male, orange domestic) to the vet with some form of blockage (FUS).
|>   This after keeping me up till 3am the night before worrying about him.
|> .........................
|> Question time:
|>   I read the FAQ about FUS and was wondering if I should really, really worry
|>   about long term diet -- or will switching to the hills (c/d?) be good enough?
|>   -- gee I hope they eat it, they didn't like the Science Diet stuff but really
|>      took to IAMS. I'd still like to feed them a can (IAMS) every once in a
|>      while and treats too.
|> 

Just a note on IAMS and FUS:

Until 6 months ago, my Vet recommend either IAMS or Science Diet for cats.
However, he has since withdrawn his recommendation of IAMS.  He told me that
he has treated 7 cats in the last year for FUS that were fed an exclusive
diet of IAMS. When I heard this, I immediately switched my 2 boys to
Science Diet.  Naturally they prefer IAMS. :-)

Kathleen
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ac94691@dunix.drake.edu (The Dark Kitty)
Subject: Re: Welcome to the First Cat (Socks)
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:30:45 GMT

In article <bette.722142287@wc.novell.com> bette@wc.novell.com writes:
>In <1992Nov18.201125.13956@dunix.drake.edu> ac94691@dunix.drake.edu (The Dark Kitty) writes:
>
>>I saw an interesting blurb today in the Des Moines Register about Socks
>>the PresidentialBeastoCat.  Apparently some camera type news person held
>>up Socks in the air for a picture.  The Clintons did not appreciate this
>>and said something to the effect "Notice to all newsmen.  Don't touch
>>the cat."  Though that isn't a direct quote it's pretty close.  =-)
>
>As someone said earlier...I think I'm gonna like these people. (The Clintons
>that is, not the press.)
>
>-- Bette
>

Well in addition to that I think that Chelsea is alot cuter (in a kid
sort of way mind you) than Neil Bush (yuck!).  =-)  Whatever else you
might say about the Clintons they are a heck of alot better looking
and better acting family than the Bush's.  At least the Clintons have
a familial personality...

Anthony


Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: lhuffman@stsci.edu
Subject: Re: Problem With Neighbors' Cat
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:34:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.055646.8549@tms390.micro.ti.com>, david@tms390.micro.ti.com (David Thomas) writes:
> abb@unislc.uucp (Anne Beck) writes:
> 
>>...I realized it was new neighbors' Bengal, just six months old.  
>>The cat was freaked out and ran into my backyard.
>>...I told her my dogs had gone for her and that
>>I'd almost run over her.  She replied, very matter of factly,
>>"Oh, well she has to learn how to cope outdoors.  And if she got
>>into your yard, she should be able to get out."
>>...this was the most hopeless, confused,
>>and befuddled cat I'd ever seen!  This cat is going to die,
>>I know it.  It makes me sick.
> 
> Unbelieveable!  Your neighbor owns a *Bengal* and she says,
> "Oh, well she has to learn how to cope outdoors"?  I wouldn't
> be surprised if she paid $1000 or more for this kitten, if it's
> really a Bengal.  She must have more money than brains!  Have 
> you noticed any other signs of mental derangement in your new 
> neighbor?  Does she leave other valuables lying about outside?
> 
> Isn't she afraid that the cat will be stolen?  All the people
> I know with rare breeds wouldn't dream of letting them out of
> the house.
> 
> Bengals are purebred cats.  They haven't the instincts nor the
> training from their mothers to deal with the outside world.
> They haven't been outdoors for several generations.  The probability 
> that one of these cats will "learn how to cope outdoors" before 
> getting itself killed by a dog or an automobile is not very good.
> 
> If you could discreetly find out the name of the breeder of this 
> kitten, I'll bet that person would have something to say about
> this incident.  Given a name, I might be able to find an address
> or a phone number.  The breeder might be concerned enough to try to
> retrieve the kitten from what appears to be an irresponsible owner,
> or at the very least, try to talk some sense into this person, if
> its possible.
> -- 
> David Thomas  Texas Instruments  (david@wotangate.sc.ti.com)  (713)-274-2347

I'll take the cat if it suddenly and permanently disappears from your 
neighbor's yard...
From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: rubber bands and milk rings
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:51:01 GMT
Reply-To: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: COMANDOS Project, Glesga Yoonie

collene@unisql.UUCP (Collene Pearce) wrote:
> So, my question is -- is there anyone out there who has (or knows of)
> a declawed cat which still plays with things like rubberbands and milk
> jug rings?    These are Tamora's favorite toys and I want to know if she
> will still be able to play with them after being declawed (if that becomes
> necessary)....   Will she be able to play with them in any manner (now she
> picks them up with her mouth and slaps them with her hands and then chases
> them; repeat)?  Do you know another kitty who does?

A friend of mine told me that some time in the 70s an American university
psychology department requested funding for an experiment to see how a
cat's behaviour would be affected by having all four of its legs amputated.
If they ever did the experiment, it might answer your question.  Maybe a
literature search is in order.

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: pjl2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Paul J Landsberg)
Subject: Re: Saving mini-blinds
Reply-To: pjl2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Paul J Landsberg)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:49:43 GMT

Marc Siegall writes:
>Help!  My cats will bend back (and break) my mini-blinds, so that they
>can look out the window at night (while I'm asleep).  They push through
>the blinds and sit on the window sill.
>
>My current "fix" is to put a piece of wall paneling in front of the
>blinds as a shield.
>
>Any ideas on how to keep my cats off of the window sill, without having
>to put up shields?  It's a low window, and they just walk onto the sill
>from the back of the couch.  I can't put the couch elsewhere (besides,
>they'd probably just jump onto the sill).

You need the omniscient "cat-annoyer" because you can't spend the time
to wake up and chase them away right.  Take your favorite clear packing
tape, make it double sided by wrapping a loop, put on the window sill
and after jumping on it twice (and expressing a great deal of feline
outrage), I think the problem might be solved.

Paul Landsberg
From: nvonstein@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cat Fight Over Socks, Clintons' Pet
Date: 19 Nov 92 13:03:36 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1992Nov19.134747.14109@gvl.unisys.com>, martha@gvlf7-o.gvl.unisys.com (Martha Sherman) writes:
> 
> 
> This is from this morning's Phila. Inquirer  (11/19/92).  I thought it was
> rather humorous:  (please excuse my typos, I don't have a scanner;
> paraphrased without permission...)
> 
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> President-elect Bill Clinton is furious at news photographers for luring
> Socks, his daughter's cat, into camera range after he gave the press specific
> orders to lay off the cat.
> 
> One Clinton staffer said the offenders used a form of catnip to lure Socks
> outside the gates of the Arkansas Gov's Mansion.
> 
> Photos appeared in many newspapers as Clinton headed to Washington to meet
> with President Bush.  They angered both Chelsea & her father, aides reported.
> "The photographers don't have the common decency to leave a little girl's pet
> alone," one staffer said.
> 
> A previous warning had been issued last Saturday: "Special note to all press
> from the highest authority --- don't touch the cat again."  Clinton's warning
> was prompted by a photo of the new first feline being held aloft by a television
> cameraman that appeared in many newspapers last Friday.  Daughter Chelsea
> was upset by the photo, which was but one example of the impact her
> father's new job is having on her life.
> 
> A source close to Clinton said grimly that there may be retribution for 
> tampering with the cat.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> So, cat lovers, what would be an adequate retribution for those pest
> photographers???  >:)


Wouldn't it have been funny if Socks had hurled a furball on the photographer?
ACK!  SPLAT!

Nancy

> 
> 
> Martha H. Sherman
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> I speak only for myself, and sometimes I even wonder about that...
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------