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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: QSound (was Re: Amused to Death)
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:07:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep07.232413.3657@pdnfido.fidonet.org> bill@pdnfido.fidonet.org (Bill Lanides) writes:

>personally don't see a huge improvement over the older methods like
>Holophonics.  However if your were able to hear what it's like without 
>QSound, I believe you would see a big difference!
>Remember the walking soldier in The Final Cut?? I thought that was unreal!
>I still turn my head and look behind me.. fantastic!

Funny, but listening to "Amused" made me pull out Final Cut for a
comparison of Waters' voice then and now.  The first thing that struck
me was not the vocal differences, but how absolutely _muddled_ the sound
was from that disk.  Compared to Amused, FC sounds like it was recorded
with a pillow over the microphones.  It was very hard to go from one to
the other and still end up being satisfied with the sound on "Cut".


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Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Thursday, 10 Sep 1992 14:26:08 EDT
From: <32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Def Leppard Live Show(Was:MTV Music Awards)
 <1992Sep10.145323.10528@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>

I worked a Def Leppard show in Saginaw, MI and these guys
have got effects like you wouldn't believe.  Basiacally
a lot of Harmonizers.  I'm definately not a Def Leppard
fan but I was pretty impressed with their live show.
You'll notice on songs like Armaggeddonn It that no
one is singing back up but it sounds like everyone is
singing...actually I think its  a Pou Some Sugar on Me
where theres a big "HEH" and no one is singing but you'll
notice that the drummer is using a pedal to make the sound.
Samples, through experience Ive learned not to hate then
so much, I used to think samples=cheese.   Then my band
recorded and triggered lots of drum sounds.  Well, sorry
to ramble, but that's why they didn't sound so good at
MTV Awards.

                       Doc


Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 14:36:01 -0400 
From: Ceri Alun Morgan <cm5m+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Pearl Jam



Hi there,
I'm looking for any gifs of the band Pearl Jam. Anyone who has any,
could you please email me. Thanks in advance,

Ceri Morgan
| Ceri Alun Morgan     (412)-268-4428      |    Queensryche          | 
| cm5m+@andrew.cmu.edu                          |    Rush               
          |
| Carnegie Mellon University                       |    Pearl Jam       
        |

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: sohaneps@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Patrick S Sohaney)
Subject: Recent & Upcoming Album Releases??
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:33:56 GMT


I was wondering what had happened to the Recent & Upcoming Album Release  
list.  I found that it was fairly accurate with its release dates of some  
of the albums I bought this summer, and now I can't seem to find it  
anymore on alt.rock-n-roll.
	Anyone have any info. on it?



jpeantn
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: richichi@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Mike Richichi)
Subject: Re: Blues Traveller?
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:37:22 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <BuJnH4.ADL@news.cso.uiuc.edu> pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen) writes:
><LPR100@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>
>>   I'm sure this has been covered before, but...
>>Who is Blues Traveller? What kind of stuff do they do? Is the new CD
>>worth the bucks? Thanks.
>
>	Blue's Traveller is a band that I think comes from Detroit
>and their sound is very similar to that of Living Colour.  My old
>roommate had some of their stuff and I really liked it so I'll tape
>it or buy it some day.  I don't know about their new album though.
>							Peder

Detroit?  Wrong, they're from Princeton, NJ originally, and now more or
less base themselves in NYC.  They're a band that mixes blues, jazz,
progressive rock, funk, you name it.  Mostly blues though.  John Popper,
the lead vocalist, is THE most amazing harmonica player I've ever heard.
Saw them live about 4 months ago, what a show.  Just four really good
musicians having a really good time.


------------
Mike Richichi, Dept. of Physics, Colorado State Univ.
richichi@lamar.colostate.edu  mrichich@drunivac.bitnet 
"Aw, the stretching beam, ya blurred me!" --MST3K
From: ops@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Sopwith Camel question
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:00:19 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

Hi..

  Maybe someone can help me... I have two LPs by a band
  called 'Sopwith Camel' and I would like to know if there
  are any other recordings by them....

  The band formed in San Francisco around 1964 (ish), the 
  members were Peter Kraemer, Terry MacNeil, Martin Beard
  and Norman Mayell.

  The two albums I have are :

  The Miraculous Hump returns from the moon (1973) and
  Frantic Desolation (1967).

  The albums were released by Edsel Records who seem to be 
  something to do with Warner Brothers.

  I would be very grateful for any info anyone could come up with
  as the record shops around here have never heard of them and no-one
  I know has either. I found the two Lps in a second-hand record store
  in Brighton a couple of years ago.

  Thanks in advance !

           ************************************************
           * Mark at Oxford University Computing Services *
           * Email - OPS@UK.AC.OX.VAX  anytime....        *
           ************************************************

    Every now and then when your life gets complicated and the weasels
    start closing in, the only cure is to load up on heinous chemicals and
    then drive like a bastard from Hollywood to Las Vegas ... with the
    music at top volume and at least a pint of ether.
                -- H.S. Thompson, "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas"
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen)
Subject: Re: Freddie Mercury's Barcelona
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:45:23 GMT
Keywords: Mercury Queen Barcelona

enc369l@monu1.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr BDJ. Johnson) writes:

>Anybody out there that has Freddie Mercury's Barcelona that can translate the
>Japanese characters etc. into English letters ? ie. still Japanese but using
>the English alphabet. Or if there are different versions around the world that
>have this already done in it...

The album is available in the US in English, I just saw it last week.
I don't have it however so I can't help.
							Peder


Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: tevonian@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu (Pete Tevonian)
Subject: Brent Bourgeois New Release?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 05:51:02 GMT

Hey, I heard a while ago (a few weeks at least) that Brent Bourgeois
had a new album coming out Real Soon Now. Any word on when exactly?
After three weeks of looking, only one store near me had ANY word
at all on it, and that was only cause the clerk had a friend who
"mentioned reading something about it in Billboard." There must
be more info than that floating around. Email or post is appreciated.

--Pete Tevonian
  sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
From: west@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Brian West)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Bono
Date: 12 Sep 92 17:10:29 GMT
Organization: Intermetrics Inc, Cambridge MA

>>What's happened to the old Bono?  

>You seem to have missed (to some extent) the *point* of ZOO-TV.

>After their New Year's Day performance in Dublin (1990, I think), Bono
>said "We're going to go away for awhile and rethink this" (or words to
>that effect).  What they meant was that they were going to sit back and
>look at where they were, and where they wanted to go.  Once they
>decided, they began Achtung Baby!

>Part of their concerns when they "went away for awhile" was that they
>were being seen for their political message only.  Certainly, this was a
>part of their message, but it was becoming far too dominant.  As Edge
>put it, "We're a fucking rock-n-roll band."

First an anecdote.  I went to the Joshua Tree tour and saw a great
show.  But during "Sunday Bloody Sunday", the teenagers in the crowd
(the majority) were dancing!!!  Hey if they want to dance its no skin
off my nose, but I don't think this was quite the response that U2 was
looking for (or that I had expected.)

The point I'm trying to make is that many of the U2 fans like Bono's
voice, Edge's music, or maybe U2's media image.  But they don't
embrace the political statements in U2's lyrics.  Maybe Bono et. al.
finally realized that their political message was being ignored by the
vast majority and just decided to go with the flow.

Brian West
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From: lsalvati@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Louis M Salvati)
Subject: Dixie Dregs
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:25:35 GMT


 I know that the Dixie Dregs are Touring because I just heard
from a friend that they are going to be in Columbia S.C. in a few
days does anyone out there know of any other tour dates. Please
e-mail me if you know anything about the tour

Thanks
From: phaedrus@unkaphaed.UUCP (James Hartman, Sysop)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Backward Masking in "Amused to Death"
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 23:46:46 GMT
Organization: Unka Phaed's UUCP Thingy

I'll admit that I was curious about what's said in the backward masking at
the beginning of track three (Perfect Sense, Part I).  I dubbed the left
channel of the CD onto a cassette, then took the cassette player across the
apartment to my computer.  The player was hooked up to my soundblaster board,
and I dubbed the portion of the track into the sound recorder under Windows
in two 60 second segments (60 seconds is the maximum I can record at one
go).  Then, I reversed the two recordings.  Here's what I got:

However [thunder] in the light of recent negotiations [?], we changed our
minds.  We have decided to include a backward message.  [thunder]  Stanley [?]
for you and all the other book [?] partners...

Then, at that point, he yells.  The music comes up, and all I can make out is
something with "fuckers" in it.  Hmmm.  A little miffed there, Roger?

Anyway, I hope someone with better equipment than I have (maybe a reel to
reel or something) can make this out better than I can.
--
phaedrus@unkaphaed.UUCP (da sysop)
"They say travel broadens the mind/so I went over the falls in a barrel
I found the north pole/in a field of ice/and in a land of dreams/I found you."
--T. Dolby (I Live in a Suitcase)
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 14:13:11 EDT
From: <BKC100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: The ORIGINAL Alice Cooper Group

This is aimed at *true* Alice Cooper fanatics:

Does anyone know the whereabouts of Alice's original band members???
(Mike Bruce, Dennis Dunaway, Glen Buxton, & Neal Smith)

After the original group spilt ways in 1974/1975, I never heard what became of
any of these other guys... Any clues?
                                            Thanx, Brian...

         ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
         :     Brian K. Chopp       BKC100@PSUVM.PSU.EDU        :
         :   Penn State "Mass Education At It's Finest" Univ.   :
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: steve@boi.hp.com (Steve Petrie)
Subject: Re: DefLep tourlist/request
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:19:09 GMT
Organization: HP Disk Memory Division, Boise ID.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

Ken Lambert (zodiac@next11pg2.wam.umd.edu) wrote:
=> Anyone have a list of the Leppard tour dates? Are they coming to the DC  
=> area soon?

  They just played in Boise, Idaho last saturday night, the 12th.  Excellent
show!


=> 
=> tis all... thanks,
=> Ken

--

-Steve Petrie   steve@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com
From: Curt.Shehow@p33.f75.n3603.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Curt Shehow)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: New Pearl Jam tracks
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 00:22:10 EDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3603/75.33 - Psycho.FidoNet.Org, Clearwater FL

04 Sep 92, Kevin L. Goodwin writes to All:

 > Message-ID: <Btx0A4.25L@news.cso.uiuc.edu>

 >   I just bought an import single of "Jeremy" today, and on it were two
 >   new tracks.  One was a remake of Temple of the Dog's "Times of Trouble"
 >   with new lyrics by Eddie.  The other was a new one called "Yellow
 >   Ledbetter"

"Footsteps". I wouldn't really call it a remake, since all they use is the
guitar track.

 >   Both were really cool, and I recommend it, even though it cost me $9.

 Damn. I get ripped off down here. Imports cost me $11.99.
                                                         Cs.


 " I know someday you'll have a beautiful life
   I know you'll be a star
   In somebody else's sky
   But why.. Why.. Why can't it be
   Can't it be mine? "                       - Pearl Jam


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From: alexa@county.lmt.mn.org (Alex Alexander)
Subject: Need Help: San Fran./Oakland Natives
Organization: LaserMaster Technologies, Minneapolis, MN
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 19:39:36 GMT

I will be in San Fransico from the 22nd to the 27th and was hoping to catch
the Faith No More/Metallica/Guns N' Roses show at the Oakland Coliseum on
Sept. 26.

I need some help from anyone who lives there with the following questions:

1.) Are there any legitimate tickets left through TicketMaster, etc.?

2.) If not, is it possible to buy one from a scalper outside the Colisuem?

3.) I'll be staying in downtown San Francisco. How much will a cab ride cost
to and from the Colisuem? Can I BART it instead? Will BART be open at 1 a.m.
when the concert is supposedly going to be over? Exactly how far away is the
Coliseum from downtown San Francisco?

4.) If you were from another town (I'm from Minneapolis), and wanted to see
the show, exactly how would you go about it in the following scenarios:

          CHEAP: I want to do it as cheaply as possible. Cheap seats, cheap
                 transport, cheap food, cheap everything!

      EXPENSIVE: I don't care how much it costs, I want the best seat and a
                 comfortable ride. (e.g. cab and buy a great seat from one
                 of those ticket broker dudes in the newspaper, or what?)

Anyway, I'd appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks in advance!

-- Alex --

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Subject: Re: What year did Phil Collins join Genesis?
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 20:20:15 GMT

VIC CANACCI (afcanav@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov) wrote:
: just out of curiousity, who was the drummer before Phil?  Where is he now?

There were three drummers:

Chris Stewart -- original drummer -- a charterhouse
 pupil like Mssrs. Banks, Rutherford, Gabriel, and Phillips.
 As of 1978 he was managing a farm.

John Silver -- played on From Genesis To Revelation -- he's 
 a TV producer now

John Mayhew -- played on Trespass, sort of a session drummer more than a 
 band member. He disappeared from the face of the earth. No one knows what
 he did or where he went.

Then Phil, who needs no introduction.

Scott

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: walagerw@cs.vu.nl (Lagerweij WA)
Subject: Billy Joel - Night and Day : What is it?
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:02:46 GMT

I bought an Album recently called  Night And Day by Billy,
First track is the title track and others are Cat and 
The Hotel St. George (I don't remember them all, I'll post 
the list after the weekend)
the cover was an 1990-s pic of BJ live and it was supposed to
be printed in 1992.
It sounded like an attilla album.
(this is a cd I'm talking about)
Dous Anyboby know what this is exactly????

thanks,
'
Wouter Lagerwey, Holland.

-- 
Wouter Lagerweij | 'Do you think you're better every day?'
walagerw@cs.vu.nl| 'NO, I just think I'm two steps nearer to my grave!'
						- Queen
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: cdaly@access.digex.com (CHRIS DALY)
Subject: Roger Waters: What God Wants, Part I Video
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 05:03:31 GMT

I just picked up a copy or Roger Waters new video tape for his first single
What God Wants, Part I.  It consists of the MTV video, an interview with Rog,
and What god Wants, Part I (Performance) video.

The first video is the MTV What God Wants, Part I Video.

The Interview is done by Jim Ladd (Who else!) and they talk about the first 
single and the state of Music videos today.  It is done in the standard 
Jimm Ladd "Innerview" style.  Roger is as always, brutally honest about his
feelings!

The What God Wants, Part I (Performance Video) is IMHO much better then the
MTV video.  It is Roger, Jeff, Snowy, and the band performing the song in a
warehouse (NOT LIVE).  The band footage that is in the MTV video is taken
from this PERFORMANCE video.  

The video cost me about $10 and is a MUST for anyone who is a fan of Rogers,
or who likes the song and wants to learn more about what it all means.  The
running time is About 15 Minutes.  This video tape implied that this is the 
first of other videos to follow. (I HOPE IT IS TRUE!!!!!!!!!)
From: MDP115@psuvm.psu.edu (Ponte)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Amused to Death
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:24:48 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Sep8.183925.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu>, kmagnacca@eagle.wesleyan.edu
says:
>
>   BTW, has anyone deciphered the backwards words at the beginning of
>"Perfect Sense, Part I"?  Someone else pointed them out but had no way of
>translating them, but I'm pretty sure it is backmasking.  Any takers?
>
>Karl Magnacca
>
     It is.. I sampled it and played it backwards but it was still hard to
  to figure out.  Someone else around here gave a semi-translation...
I thinks its more of rog's sarcastic humor =)

            Ponte
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc,rec.music.for-sale
From: aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Aaron Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Wanted : Original Eric Clapton Unplugged on MTV
Reply-To: aaron@space.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:21:56 GMT

tpetty@nyx.cs.du.edu (Tom Petty) writes:
: 
: Is anyone in possesion of the Unpluggd Video w/Eric Clapton,which
: originally aired on MTV a few months back.If so I would be interested in
: purchasing it or a copy of it.
: 
: please send e-mail if you can help me

Oh my God!  Tom Petty's on the Net!  ;-}

--
---Alfvaen(Canadian SF Quasi-Activist)
"Don't fight it--it's over your head."
Current Album--King Crimson:The Compact King Crimson
Current Read--Robert Heinlein:The Past Through Tomorrow
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: kimmel@epx.cis.umn.edu (Eric Kimmel)
Subject: Re: Alice in Chains
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 16:38:19 GMT

In article <cubsfan.716239564@camelot> cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman) writes:
>I really couldn't disagree with them being better than Nirvana ("Nevermind" at lleast), but saying they're better than Soundgarden and Pearl Jam is about the 
>stupidest thing I've heard since the Republican National Convention!  It sounds 
>to me like you just went out and bought "Singles" yesterday.  Pearl Jam

The AIC song on Singles IS better than the Pearl Jam song.  I don't think
many people would argue that.

>lyrically is in a class by themselves besides Rush, not to mention their
>music is just about the most emotional since Jane's Addiction broke up.
>That Sammy Haggar lookin' lead singer for Alice In Chains isn't even 
>close to being in the same league as Eddie Vedder both emotionally and
>intelectually.  Show me just one AIC song in which you can even 
>understand what the fuck he's even singing.  Chances are the 
>lyrics suck anyways.  By the way there is more to the Seattle
> music scene than Pearl Jam , Soundgarden, and AIC you know.
>
Pearl Jam lyrics are better if you read the sheet.  Vedder is impossible to
understand on most songs.  Alive and Jeremy are prime examples.  Great lyrics,
but everyone has to read the sheet before undertanding what the hell he's
singing.  At least you can undertand AIC's singer and the lyrics aren't
all that bad.

>Try listening to Mudhoney, Love Battery, Smashing Pumpkins, TAD, or some of
>the other great bands that Alice In Chains are supposedly better than.

I have, and AIC is better than all of them.

>You should've at least heard of some of those bands, after all they're
> on "Singles." And what's up with this Queensryche shit? I suppose
> you own all of the Heart albums too? Jimi Hendrix is probably
>turning in his grave. Then again you probably believe all the shit about
>Jimi living in Haiti with Elvis. Thanks for the laughs!!!

The only thing Queensryche and Heart have in common are Seattle and
environmental awareness.

>-Written by Phill Mulnick using cubsfan's login.
>
-Rick
From: phaedrus@unkaphaed.UUCP (James Hartman, Sysop)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Amused to Death
Date: 10 Sep 92 12:01:21 GMT
Organization: Unka Phaed's UUCP Thingy

kmagnacca@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:

>    BTW, has anyone deciphered the backwards words at the beginning of 
> "Perfect Sense, Part I"?  Someone else pointed them out but had no way of
> translating them, but I'm pretty sure it is backmasking.  Any takers?

I gave it a shot with my soundblaster card.  I came up with:

However (thunder) in the light of recent negotiations(?) we changed our
minds.  We have decided to include a backward message (thunder)
Stanley(?) for you and all of the other good(?) partners...

Then he shouts, the music comes up and obscures clarity, except it distinctly
sounds like he says "f*ckers" in there.

--
phaedrus@unkaphaed.UUCP (da sysop)
"They say travel broadens the mind/so I went over the falls in a barrel
I found the north pole/in a field of ice/and in a land of dreams/I found you."
--T. Dolby (I Live in a Suitcase)
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