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From: rw3@rkw-risc.cs.up.ac.za (RW3 Studente)
Subject: Hi there !
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:20:30 GMT
Organization: University of Pretoria, South Africa

Hi ! We are grad students at the University of Pretoria. We'de like to meet people interesting in corresponding with us. Interesting discusion about the political situation in South Africa is welcome.

By the way Pretoria is in the middle of South Africa (If you don't watch CNN).

Thanks:
Send mail to :
8914656@rkw-lan.cs.up.ac.za
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad,soc.college.gradinfo
From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin)
Subject: Re: Statements of purpose
Keywords: SOP
Reply-To: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin)
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:15:33 GMT

   Since statements of purposes seem like something everyone
encounters, at one time or another,  I thought I would
post my two cents worth.

   I was told once that a statement of purpose ought to
tell the person why you want to go to graduate school,
and perhaps, more importantly, what you want to do there.
It's a bit of a catch-22 since, if you have had no research
experience, how can you decide what is most interesting
to you (short of courses related to the idea) and
yet if you have done research, then are you trapped to
do that research?  Actually, once in, it really doesn't
make a difference.

   I would probably put down why I want to go to graduate
school,  what I would like to do in graduate school (don't
always list down everyone's research topics.  That's
almost too obvious that you don't know what you like).
If you aren't sure, then perhaps areas that you were
interested in, as far as coursework is concerned, would
help.   You might have to explain any weaknesses in
your transcript (if any) so that you can make yourself
look good.  Also, any previous research experience,
awards in that area might be useful (though one hopes
that the your research advisor would be recommending you).

   If you're in it for the master's that might require
a different approach, as you may not wish to (or be required
to) do any research.   

   My guess is that the way they determine admission is
first they check if you have outstanding recommendations
from professors they know.  This may override even
grades.  If the recommendations are standard, then grades
are going to be the main factor.  After all, one has to know
whether you can take graduate work (and the school you
got your degree from also counts).  My guess is that SOP
are used more as a tie-breaker to figure out people
who are roughly equal, or possibly to find someone with
experience in some unique area who can be chosen
as an RA right away.

   Otherwise, I'm sure it's quite common to read SOP's
which say "I am aplying to graduate school to study
an area that I felt was lacking when I took such-and-such
course in my undergrad.  The stimulation of working among
such bright students is something I look forward too. Esp.
with such names as Dr. BigWig who does research in applied
non-applications working in your dept.  And your facilities
are among the best, and I look only for the best."

   And so forth.

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu
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From: puri@enel.ucalgary.ca (Ruchir Puri)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad,soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: E-mail address of Dr.Micheal Andrews @CS Dept. Colorado State Univ.
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:14:22 GMT
Organization: ECE Department, U. of Calgary, Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Hi there!
	I will really appreciate if anybody out there from Colorado State Univ.
can mail the E-mail address of Dr. Micheal Andrews,Prof. CS Dept., 
Author of the Book: Principles of Firmware Engineering in Microprogram control. 

Thanks for your help...

Regrads,
--Ruchir Puri
-- 
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puri@vlsi.enel.UCalgary.CA     The University of Calgary, CANADA - T2N1N4
403-220-4870 (Dept Ph.)        403-284-5825 (Home Ph.), 403-282-6855 (Dept FAX)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad,soc.college.gradinfo
From: jpxu1@fnala.fnal.gov
Subject: GRE computer test.
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 05:40:25 GMT

I'm going to take a GRE subject exam in computer scince.  Can someone give
some tips?  Like naming some good books for this test.  Thanks a lot.
BTW, I'm a non-computer student and a non-American.  That makes it a little
bit more difficult.
Email please

--jpx
jpxu1@fnal.fnal.gov
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: sbanerj@eos.ncsu.edu (SANJEEV  BANERJIA)
Subject: Re: CS Graduate email list
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:48:54 GMT

Contact for Cornell CS is Jan Batzer, jan@cs.cornell,edu.
The Correct contact for N.C. State CS is Wanda Oakley, Graduate Secretary,
   oakley@adm.csc.ncsu.edu.

Sanjeev
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad,soc.college.gradinfo
From: wnoe@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Bill Noe)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: Graduate programs in EE or BME
Date: 17 Aug 92 02:34:00 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

I am in the process of looking for a graduate school at which to pursue an
MS (and perhaps a PhD.)  I graduate with a BSEE from Purdue University in May
1993, and hope to study biomedical engineering, or electrical engineering w/
medical applications.  My particular interests are instrumentation and
cellular-level physiological modelling, and I've only found a couple likely
matches.  Unfortunately, traditional graduate program guides do not provide
enough detail for me to determine whether a particular school interests me.
I would appreciate any recommendations or information (schools, contact
addresses, admission statistics, etc.) you may have.

Thanks in advance...

...B
-- 
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From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.college,comp.sys.mac.programmer,misc.education
Subject: Re: Computer Science Programs
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:19:21 GMT
Reply-To: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin)
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park

In article <1992Aug20.015008.7556@eng.umd.edu>, russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto) writes:
> Take a few courses on the "mind broadening" (i.e outside of
> engineering and the sciences) side of UMCP.  I'd bet you find that you
> can handle those courses without too much difficulty, but that most of
> those majoring in those areas couldn't pass calc II to save their
> lives.
> 
> What is billed as "mind broadening"-- i.e so-called "liberal arts" --
> isn't, at least not at UMCP.

   UMCP is sort of weird.  I get the impression that the more
technical areas (science/engineering/math) are way above the
liberal arts, and most electrical engineers I encounter think
that taking liberal arts is pretty relaxing, a change of pace
from the usual grind of engineering.

   However, I went to Cornell as an undergrad, and some folks
there were petrified of taking some of the liberal arts
courses since they were afraid they'd compete against someone
who knew all the stuff, and could write.   I knew one person
who was from New York (a government major) who was even keeping
track of a gubernatorial race in my own state, and at the time,
even I had no idea who was running.

    Actually, what I meant my "mind broadening" was not
liberal arts per se, but computer science courses that
may not have any immediate practical use (say, computation
theory, as opposed to programming in UNIX).

    I must say I am surprised at the number of computer
types who read this group.  I shouldn't be.   After all,
one has to get on a computer and figure news out before
posting.

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu
From: ng@MOE.OPTICS.ROCHESTER.EDU (Baldwin Ng)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: REQUEST:  TOP 20 WAYS TO ASK A FRESHMAN GIRL OUT
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:18:08 GMT

Status: R

Hello to all!

I am interested to compile a list of "TOP 20 WAYS TO ASK A FRESHMAN GIRL OUT"
for the incoming freshman guys here at U of Rochester.  Any input/suggestion
is welcome!  I will pick the 20 ways from all your replies that I think are
MOST CREATIVE and post it up in "soc.college" at the end of this month!

Thanks in advance!

Baldwin

(ng@moe.optics.rochester.edu)
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: milhouse!johnck (John C. Krowas)
Subject: Re: Computer Science Programs
Originator: johnck@milhouse
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 19:18:29 GMT

In article <k1HePB1w164w@tosh.UUCP> steve@tosh.UUCP (Steve Wilson)  
writes:
> Hello.
> 
> I am looking for descriptions of Computer Science programs at the  
different
> Colleges and Universities around the country.
At Caltech, in addition to CS, we have a program in Computation and  
Neural Systems. It combines the fields of Biology, EE, and CS. It's  
pretty neat stuff; it's not my major, so I don't know the specifics  
of it. There are different sub-fields within it, like computer  
modeling of brain function, computer vision, analog VLSI, neural  
nets, etc. Carver Mead and Christof Koch are the big names. 
Also, we have the Intel Touchstone Delta, probably the world's  
fastest computer. 
So, I don't think you should put Caltech in the "second tier" of CS  
schools. 

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From: kenr@orleans.storage.tandem.com (Ken Rose)
Subject: Re: CONSCIOUSNESS AND SCIENCE DISCUSSION GROUP
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc, Cupertino CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:50:44 GMT

In article <12AUG199210174609@jetson.uh.edu>, rcte4@jetson.uh.edu (Carpenter, Scot M.) writes:
> In article <1992Aug11.143846.24840@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass) writes...
> > 
> >     One final comment:  humans are very good at finding patterns,
> >     even when they do not exist. 
> 
> 
> 	This strikes me a bit strange - If a subjective pattern is found, 
> than it does exist.  I think that your statement is indicative of the whole
> subjective/objective reality conflict; I infer that you mean that even if I
> detect a pattern in data, unless I can find a function that describes it in a
> manner that is consistent with existing "scientific knowledge," the pattern
> doesn't really exist.

Scot,

I believe the argument is that people have a tendency to find order
and patterns even when they do not in fact exist.  Nothing strange
about it at all; just a result of how we view the world.

There is a book published recently that addresses this very 
subject -- written by Thomas Gilovich, it is titled "How we
know what isn't so -- the fallibility of human reason in
everyday life".  I have just begun to read it, so I can't
summarize his arguments, but the preface promises that the
book will explore the ways people discern patterns in things
that are random. 

____________________________________________________________________
Ken Rose    (kenr@storage.tandem.com)
The Usual Disclaimer:  Any opinions expressed above are mine alone, not
those of my employer (who is kind enough to allow me Usenet access).
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From: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: Freshman Dorm... a review
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:50:51 GMT
Reply-To: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
Distribution: na
Organization: Columbia University

In article <92225.103628ENVIRON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> ENVIRON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:
>
>     Welcome to the 90's.  Stanford (in California, of course) has got coed
>bathrooms all over the place.  One of the on-campus houses has coed showers,
>too.  And we're not even Berkeley!

Coed bathrooms exist around Columbia dorms as well, at least in some of the
older, unrenovated dorms that were all male many years ago.  There are no
such dorms today, but since some have only one bathroom to a floor....

I never understood what the big deal was anyway.  It isn't like you can
see what the person in the next stall is doing...

--
Gabe Wiener - Columbia Univ.     "This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings 
gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu       to be seriously considered as a means of 
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Newsgroups: soc.college,comp.sys.mac.programmer,misc.education
From: dak@sq.sq.com (David A Keldsen)
Subject: Re: Computer Science Programs
Followup-To: poster
Organization: SoftQuad Inc.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 19:00:25 GMT

This thread is cross posted, and it doesn't look like it really belongs to
*any* of the newsgroups, so I've set "Followup-to: poster"

mdchaney@fractal.ucs.indiana.edu (M Darrin Chaney) writes:

>I could bring up the example of the girl who coded a loop in C like this:

>myproc()
>{
>  lines_o_code;
>  myproc();
>}

>Seems she couldn't understand why it was running out of memory.  When someone
>explained that she was overflowing the stack by continually calling the
>procedure over and over again, she said, "Oh, I thought tail recursions
>were implemented as goto's".

Tail recursions are required to be implemented using constant space in
Scheme; the ANSI C standard does not address issues of optimization,
so the assumption that tail calls do or do not use stack space is non-
portable.  Certainly many C compilers *do* tail recursion optimization;
for example...

[sqarc!dak ~] 174 % cat tmp.c
void
myproc()
{
        int line;
 
        line++;
        line++;
        myproc();
}
[sqarc!dak ~] 175 % cc -O4 -S tmp.c
[sqarc!dak ~] 176 % cat tmp.s
        .seg    "text"                  ! [internal]
        .proc   16
        .global _myproc
_myproc:
!#PROLOGUE# 0
!#PROLOGUE# 1
        save    %sp,-64,%sp
L77001:
        inc     %i5
        b       L77001
        inc     %i5
        .seg    "data"                  ! [internal]

As you can see, tail recursions *are* implemented as gotos in this
compiler at this optimization level.  (The compiler is also taking
advantage of the branch fill slot after the branch, which is why the
second "inc" looks misplaced, but that's a separate issue.)  This is with
an old, pre-ANSI out-of-the-box Sun 4 C compiler, not Sun's whiz-bang
unbundled new compiler.

A quick comment on the rest of the "Real World vs. University Computer
Science" thread:  I use what I learned during my formal Computer
Science education all the time (B.S., M.S., University of Oregon).  I
also use Scheme every day; it's the basis of the extension language
which supports our product line, and we've been using it in a Real
World Environment for nearly three years.

Regards,
Dak
-- 
David A. 'Dak' Keldsen of SoftQuad, Inc. email: dak@sq.com  phone: 416-239-4801
"However, let's assume that we want the program to run faster.  A
dangerous assumption, but it's a wretched, miserable, rainy night out
and I want to have a little fun." -- (Andrew Koenig, in comp.lang.c)
From: elm@cs.berkeley.edu (ethan miller)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: Freshman Dorm... a review
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:28:59 GMT
Reply-To: elm@cs.berkeley.edu
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In-reply-to: mfoster@alliant.backbone.uoknor.edu's message of Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:42:26 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.154226.2472@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> mfoster@alliant.backbone.uoknor.edu (Marc Foster) writes:
=>CBS ran the first episode of 'Freshman Dorm' last night...
[...]

=>Lulu was a total joke.  If she has all that money, then why the hell
=>is she in a dorm with two other people?  She'd be in a single, or
=>out of the dorm completely, in real life.

Some schools require freshmen to live on campus.  Brown is one such
school.  It's *very* hard to get out of living in a dorm freshman year
-- even local parents isn't a sufficient excuse.  About the only
reason they will take is a combination of local relatives and
financial need (ie, a rich Providence resident has to live in a
freshman dorm).  In addition, all freshman share rooms.  There are no
singles for first-year students at Brown.  It sounds like this is no
different.

ethan
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From: paradise@wuntvor.norman.ok.us (Christie)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: Freshman Dorm... a review
Date: 14 Aug 92 23:13:14 GMT
Organization: The Eternal Apprentice BBS, Norman, OK

ENVIRON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:
>      You sir, are correct.  I've never even heard of a 9-month lease, and I
> can't imagine a market where an owner would take one unless there was a
> pretty significant financial depression somewhere in there...
> Brett

  Well, if you look for a summer lease, you can usually find one, so I presume
that there are some complexes that have less than 6 month leases...They just
aren't quite as nice as the ones with 6 or 12 month leases...

   CP


--
Christie Paradise
paradise@wuntvor.norman.ok.us
(405) 325-9607  The Eternal Apprentice
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: sfroelic@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stephan E Froelich)
Subject: NEED CONTACTS IN CORPUS CRISTI, TX
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 02:34:42 GMT

       I'm moving to Corpu Cristi, Tx and won't know a soul there.
     It's partly why I'm doing it, the challenge and all.
          If I could talk to someone there before I go...
             I need to know things to do there
               companies to look for work at,
                 how to get a usenet or any
                  net account (I'll miss
                    it otherwise)....
                      PLEASE HELP
                       .Stefan
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From: tedwards@src.umd.edu (Thomas Grant Edwards)
Newsgroups: soc.college,comp.sys.mac.programmer,misc.education
Subject: Re: Computer Science Programs
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:08:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: src.1992Aug19.200851.5893
Organization: Systems Research Center, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park

In article <1992Aug18.212034.24299@src.umd.edu> clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin) writes:
>   You don't get quite the number of electrical engineers
>designing chips for the fun of it as you do computer
>science majors who like to hack around.

Hey, I design chips for the fun of it!
Course, it costs a few kilobucks to fabricate them...
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: tjoa@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Richard Tjoa)
Subject: Re: Freshman Dorm... a review
Summary: Why should I see something I get every year?
Keywords: freshman dorm show sex
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 07:39:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.154226.2472@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> mfoster@alliant.backbone.uoknor.edu (Marc Foster) writes:
>CBS ran the first episode of 'Freshman Dorm' last night...
>
>It was a total joke.

"Didn't see it."

[what the dorms looked like]

>Lulu was a total joke.  If she has all that money, then why the hell is
>she in a dorm with two other people?  She'd be in a single, or out of the 
>dorm completely, in real life.

I agree.  In general, most people would rather be out in their own place,
but aren't because of $$ and the variability of rental units.

>The Hispanic girl (forgot the name, sorry) seems to be dense as well.

Her name was K.C., I think.  (I saw a review that described it as being
"sophomoric" and "less pretentious" than "Melrose Place")

>Coed BATHROOMS????  You can't be serious...  I know I'm in the middle of
>the Bible Belt and the show is based in California (at fictional Western
>Pacific University), but I can't see a housing programs type person anywhere
>in the U.S.A. having that.

Uh oh.  Don't come to Berkeley.  (Showers/toilets are in separate, locking
stalls, either sex can use whatever...)  About 30 people share, 5 sinks,
4 stalls, 3-4 showers, (per floor) at least in the high rises.

>Someone needs to tell the people who designed to set of the dorm lounge
>that anything not bolted down or weighing 3 tons gets destroyed in the 
>first week, and that's no gaurantee it won't get trashed anyway.

Yup.  Sometimes we luck out and they wait until after all the parents go
home.  Then, the physicists come out and test acceleration due to gravity.

>                                                                  The
>set people are clueless as to what dorms should look like (low income
>inner city projects are a close approximation.

Our "high-rises", maybe.  Foothill, Haste Channing, and Clark Kerr are
really nice though.  Foothill opened Sp 90 and looks kinda like a funky
ski lodge.  Haste-Channing is a cheaper version of Foothill.

>I guess CBS wanted a diversion from 90210.  This show is gonna get riped
>to shreds to the critics (if they don't, I will lose all faith in quality
>television).

Quality television?  Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...
I'm not going to criticize the show without seeing it, though, but the
idea seems like something criticizeable.  However, I can really see it's
appeal to junior high schoolers.  I guess I just don't want to watch it
and start squicking.

>I'm sure this discussion will generate a lot of traffic once the fall
>semester starts and all the fish start whining that their dorms are
>nothing like the ones on TV.

Perhaps we could just bear it and write some scripts for them.

>Please email flames... or laurels.

Oh, now you tell me...

>marc


-Richard
Dormie too long...
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