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From: aa349@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Howard Herman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: SwiftLink/RamLink
Date: 22 Dec 1992 06:31:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In article, edwardp@ra.cs.umb.edu (Edward P. Piecewicz) writes:

>Is it possible for CMD's SwiftLink and RamLink devices to work together
>at the same time?

Yes!
   
But....  On a stock RAMLinto NORMAL while a SwiftLink is in use.  What this means is that programs like 
Dialogue128 which can use the REU as part of a BIG buffer, can no longer 
access it.  (I believe that this would also affect ability to use CBM's 
RamDos.)  Access to RAMLink's RAM however is not affected.

The "fix" is quite simple.  Two wires in RAMLink to bypass that switch.  Then 
you can run SwiftLink and fully access RAM in the REU.

The only thing is that once this "fix" is done, users must be careful IF they 
use other cartridges that their memory addresses will not conflict with that 
of the REU, which is why that switch is there in the first place.

It is all up to how the user may want it configured.  Me?  Well I am getting 
one of those speedy modems for Christmas, so will be putting SwiftLink into 
constant use, and will opt for the fix now.

>(I don't have either, but the question was recently asked of me.)

They are both terrific.  Cannot imagine being without.

>Thanks.

Welcome!
-------------
Howard Herman
INET:  72560.3467@CompuServe.COM

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From: ar903@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert Taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Centauri Editor
Date: 22 Dec 1992 09:20:17 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ar903@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert Taylor)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


I'm looking for Centauri Editor (the 76 block one, not the ones, that
play music), mine got fried.
E-Mail me, or page (216)425-6015

I code, therefore I am crazy.

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702-594-7322
From: po87553@cs.tut.fi (Pasi 'Albert' Ojala)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: BBS's
Date: 29 Dec 1992 13:11:11 GMT
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.tut.fi

In article <28876@optima.cs.arizona.edu> mcbride@cs.arizona.edu (Chris M. McBride) writes:
>BUT I lied. Think Twice is the first demo to use FLD a kind of
>predecessor to FLI. The same technique is used in both methods.

Well, ACTUALLY it is the same Idea, but reversed. You forgot that FLD makes
bad lines go further apart, and FLI makes them closer to each other..

-Pasi
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: thssapk@iitmax.iit.edu (([<{\_/}>]))
Subject: 3 Unanswered Questions
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 05:36:22 GMT

OK, here is a repost of three questions and/or requests that have
been left unanswered up to now:

1)   What are the formats of the files on wuarchive.wustl.edu?
     (Sigh...don't bother with this one too much, since it's obviously
      for CP/M utilities, which I gathered from OTHER comp.sys.cbm posts)

2)   Can someone FTP novaterm9_4-1.sfx and novaterm9_4-4.sfx up to 
     cco.caltech.edu or wherever, since only parts 2 and 3 can be 
     found there?  (Jeez, I find it amazing the lack of response to
     THIS one; there has been plenty of discourse about version 4,
     so SOMEBODY should have either the .sfx files, FTP access, or
     both).  If it turns out you only need the two files already at
     the site, fine; just let me know, ok?

3)   Does anyone anywhere have a C128 disk/file copier?   (There aren't
     any on the FTP stes, and once you have a file on a drive, it's gets 
     can't move it anywhere without a copier.  Heck, I'll even take the
     shell that comes with the 1571 drive.)

Thanx again for those people who answered my fourth question:  I'm ordering
The Write Stuff right away.   As to the casual readers of this message:
if you have the information I need, just post or reply to it.  Don't expect
some other person to reply, because they won't.

Later!!!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: liuzzo@cbnewse.cb.att.com (james.g.liuzzo)
Subject: WANTED: 1351 mouse
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 19:36:13 GMT
Keywords: 1351 mouse


Looking for a 1351 mouse or equivalant.  Please send me email if you
have one for sale.
Thanks.
- Jim
From: ac803@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael W. Kelley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Desterm support and updates
Date: 25 Dec 1992 14:32:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ac803@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael W. Kelley)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, soulcatc@terapin.com (Paul Palinkas) says:

>For the past two years or so, I've been using DesTerm v2.00. recently I located
>a 1750 REU, which I now use.  Unfortunately, I'm having difficulty using the
>REU with the copy option.  Is there anything after DesTerm v2.00?  Are there
>any fixes for v2.00?  What happened to Matthew Desmond? Please help, I do love
>this program!
> 
>Soulcatcher... - soulcatc@terapin.com - soulcatc@cyberden.sf.ca.us
>
The copy function is cumbersome at best, but it DOES work, if
you hve yor devices set correctly.  2.0 is the current release,
but there IS a beta test version in process now with changes
and upgrades (I'm a beta tester).  Matt is alive and well, available
here and on City Limits BBS, (519)658-0311.
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From: mshep@alfred.carleton.ca (Mark Shepherd)
Subject: Text Editors 
Summary: like, text editors.
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 06:18:01 GMT

Hello:
 
A while ago, I posted a message about the Diamond Text Editor
for the 64.  I remember someone emailed me about it, and said
he would eventually post it up on an FTP site somewhere, but
as I've changed accounts recently, I've no idea if it ever
made it up anywhere.  
 
As it's now holiday time, I'd REALLY appreciate any info
or whatever on this thing.  I don't have a really full-featured
editor for the 64, and would be grateful to anyone who could
help me out.
 
I might even be persuaded to pay a token sum for a copy, too.
 
Mark Shepherd
(mshep@ccs.carleton.ca)
From: ac803@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael W. Kelley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: CS-DOS etc...
Date: 26 Dec 1992 00:32:54 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ac803@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael W. Kelley)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, mcmillan_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz () says:

>Many thanks to those who offered help with creating .sfx files. (Not .sda)
>I'm a little further ahead, but still not having much luck... C Smeets must
>get first prize for writing the most contrived, user-hostile program I've ever
>seen!
>
>After running the 'shell' program, I enter the command;
>lha -s a:test.sfx a:title a:<any_program_name>
>
>The program resonds:
>LHARChive creator for CS-DOS v1.10 - (C)opyright 1990 C. Smeets
>REU in use
>
>And that's all!  No .sfx file created, and I can repeat this over and over...
>
>I have the following files on the disk; shell,autoexec,if,getram,setram,
>ramdisk,lha,title and a prg file.
>Hardware is a flat 128, a 1581 (also tried 1571 - no difference) and a 1750.
>(I did have RAMLInk in, but also no difference with it unplugged).
>
>I'm now into my third week of trying to get this CS-DOS LHARC thing to work
>and do have a serious and priority use for it.
>
>Does anyone know what could be wrong?? I'm assuming my copies are not bugged
>or corrupted - I received them via ftp.
One, you don't need the .SFX on the filename, since LHARC does that
automatically.  Two, if you don't have a file named TITLE on disk, your
gonna be SOL.

LHA -s a:nerdnook c:user b:friendly

This will create an SFX file named NERDNOOK.SFX from the files
USER and FRIENDLY located on the appropriate drives.
Also, make sure you have the LHA installed in RAM to operate, and 
have the REU set up to work with it.

Here is my CS-DOS autoexec used with my 1750:

fast
rem "Set errorlevel to 1 if 1750 is present or 0 if not present.
bank15:y=peek(57094):poke 57094,y+1:poke 7136,abs(peek(57094)-y)
z:if not errorlevel 1 z:autoexec.no1750
z:setram 16,8
poke dec("1bcf"),2*16+8
z:getram ramdisk
if (peek(215) and 128) then fast
text
new
rdir/w

Good luck.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: msmakela@cc.helsinki.fi (Marko Mkel)
Subject: RE: DC power for C-64's
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:31:05 GMT

In article <BzL2JB.CpM@ns1.nodak.edu>, 
stenslan@plains.NoDak.edu (David Stensland) writes:
> Does anyone know a way of hooking a C-64 up in an automobile?  A person
> could go out and buy an DC-AC inverter and plug the '64 into that for power,
> but there must be a cheaper and more sensible way.
 
> I want to have a good solid 60Hz signal for the TOD clocks on the 6526's, as
> one function of the computer will be as a tachometer... so it needs accurate
> clocks for the frequency measurement.  

If you are seeking for accuracy, use the CIA frequency calculators, CA1 or
something like that. If you were using ToD, you had to poll some I/O line,
monitor ToD and calculate the frequencies in your program. The time would be
measured in 0,1 seconds. But the little agents in the CIA can do most of the 
work themselves, and the comparation frequency is the system clock frequency,
which is always the same independent of the AC frequency.

The 9 VAC is needed for ToD, for +12 VDC (VIC and SID Vdd and audio output 
amplifier transistor), for unregulated +9 VDC and for "CAN +5", supposedly 
some kind of +5 VDC only for the VIC. You should provide these voltages
somehow. I think that the ToD frequency is not necessary, it could be tied to
ground or +5 V, but these other signals might be needed, even if you don't need
picture or sound.

BTW: You don't need a microprocessor for tachometer. Are you going to implement
some kind of computer aided steering? :-)

Feel free to email me for further details.

Marko M"akel"a
University of Helsinki, Finland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: marcinj@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Marcin Jakubowski)
Subject: SID's 4th voice
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 02:31:52 GMT

  Recently I used PlaySID, a program that emulates 6510 code and the SID
chip on an Amiga to play C64 music, to listen to some 64 pieces that
somehow use a 4th voice to play samples.  These pieces include the music
from Arkanoid, Great Giana Sisters, and Turbo Outrun (intro).  The last
one of these sounds particularly impressive -- the 4th voice alone first
plays a digitized track, then the 3 standard voices join in for music
that sounds pretty close to what the Amiga can produce.  Does anyone
know how this is done?  The 4th voice sounds completely independent of
the other three and does not affect them in any way -- it's a true,
separate channel.

M. Jakubowski
marcinj@phoenix.princeton.edu
From: ronk@hpgrla.gr.hp.com (Ron King)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 15:25:34 GMT
Subject: Flight Stick for C64
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Greeley, CO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm

    Does anybody have a device called "flight stick"?  It was developed for
Sub Logic by a third party.  It is used with the FS2 program for C64, and
simulates an analog stick with trim controls.  If anyone has one you want
to unload please email me.  Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Qwkie Reader
From: mcmillan_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 24 Dec 92 14:55:28 NZST
Organization: Welligton City Council, Public Access.
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz


Here is a msg for Art Moore. It's from one of the guys here who has been
trying out qwk reader:

|Sect:General Topics 
|Date:20/12/1992 
|Time:10:29:58am 
|From:Terry Knight 
|To  :Kirk McMillan 
|Subj:QWKie reader 
|
|Well, I downloaded the above reader and it seems to work pretty well! It is
|good to at last have an off-line reader for the 64 when logging onto the
|international conferences etc!!! 
|
|One thing I have found with it is you do need to have any cartridges disabled
|before unarcing packets and reading the unarced packet for the first time, or
|else the program locks up the drive. Also you do need to power down the drive
|between unarcing and reading - I think it may have something to do with the
|fastload routines in the unarcing program. 
|
|All in all, its great! 
|
|73s...Terry 

Terry can read this newsgroup, but can't directly reply yet.

Cheers - Kirk
From: edwardp@ra.cs.umb.edu (Edward P. Piecewicz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: SX-64 keyboard availability
Date: 27 Dec 92 02:43:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston, Dept of Math and CS

I was asked if there are keyboards available for the SX-64.  Someone received
one FREE, but it didn't come with a keyboard..

Thanks.

Ed


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Happy Holidays from the BCS!
From: crunch@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Travis Prebble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: IQ Computing Device
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 15:17:53 EST
Organization: The Heart of Gold BBS, Lemont PA

I saw an info-mercial this morning, starring Tom Bosley, about a home 
computer called, as the header implies, the IQ Computing Device.  It has 
12 built in programs (which they spent about an hour telling us all 
about) and is for use ONLY with a television set.

Anyway, I watched this for a while and noticed something quite odd.  The 
graphics had a very C=64 flavor to them.  I almost thought Vic 20, but 
there were too many colors.  Has anybody else heard about this?

The info-mercial assured the viewer that this was the machine that they 
needed to catapult them into the computer age, that they should avoid 
going with a big clone system because "installation is incredibly 
difficult."  They seemed rather pleased with their word processing 
software (although it was in 40 columns) and failed to mention the fact 
that before little Susie can print out her book report, she might just 
need a printer. =)

I did notice that there was a serial port on the back of the machine.  It 
also had a numeric keypad.

So, is this a 64 in sheep's clothing?  


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From: mcmillan_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Kermit 2400 C128 autobooter
Date: 25 Dec 92 21:45:23 GMT
Organization: Welligton City Council, Public Access.
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

I've just written a new Kermit autoboot for the 128. This includes a load
of the "kermit24.ml" file and the couple of Pokes involved, as well as 
loading and running the main Kermit file.
If anyone would like a copy, let me know and I will put it on ccosun. It is
only useful for 2400 baud operation on the C128.

Cheers - Kirk
From: tratclif@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Tracy Ratcliff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: devicenumber
Keywords: device number
Date: 23 Dec 92 00:14:59 GMT
Organization: Ohio University CS Dept,. Athens

In article <6600@pdxgate.UUCP> crimson@rigel.cs.pdx.edu (Crimson Knight) writes:
>
>     Does anybody know what location the device number (from the switches) is 
>read into? I really need this for the 1581, but for any drive will do.
>     I looked at zeropage maps for the 1541 and 1571 and they did not show what
>location holds the device number.
>                                         Thanks!
>                                        crimson@rigel.cs.pdx.edu

The locations are 119 ($77) which hold device_number + $20 and 120 ($78) which
holds device_number + $40.  They're the same location for any 15xx drive.  119
is the device number for listen, 120 the one for talk.  Anyone know what happens
if they're set to different numbers?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: dc@ais.org (David Daniels)
Subject: Re: Screen scrool on Nova 9.4
Keywords: Novaterm
Organization: UMCC
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 05:29:23 GMT

mhm104@access.digex.com (Mitch Markowitz) writes:

>Hello All,

>     I recently downloaded Nova 9.4 and started trying it out.  Everything seemed to work fine, until I tried using it on INternet.  The problem is thet the screen does not scrool at the bottom,  therefore when the text reaches the bottom, it keeps overwriting itself.  

>     Anyone else have this problem?

>I have the program set up with 80 col and vt100.


>Mitch Markowitz



Same problem I was having with Novaterm 9.3... I was hoping that 9.4 would
have this problem fixed... Noticed it first in IRC, and then I was having
problems using editors, among other things with it.  

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From: hermit@cats.UCSC.EDU (William R. Ward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Compatibility between GEOS and GeoWorks Ensemble?
Date: 3 Jan 93 03:04:59
Organization: Computing and Telecommunications Services, UCSC
Distribution: world
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I've heard of a product for the MS-DOS world called "GeoWorks
Ensemble"... Is this in any way compatible with Commodore 128/64 GEOS?
Can it read or write Commodore GEOS files in any form (assuming the
disc format issue is solved via Big Blue or 1541.EXE or somesuch)?
I doubt the applications are compatible, but the data files could be
theoretically.

Is GeoWorks Inc. the same thing as Berkeley Softworks (with the name
changed) or did someone else just come out with a similar product to
the GEOS we know?
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From: tratclif@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Tracy Ratcliff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: .sfx files
Date: 21 Dec 92 23:26:39 GMT
Organization: Ohio University CS Dept,. Athens

In article <1992Dec21.160530.1@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz> mcmillan_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>Does anyone know how to create the .sfx files that, e.g. Novaterm 9.4 used?
>
>I have the correct files that someone said would do it(CSDOS LHARC128) and
>have spent a week or so ploughing through them all... but found no mention of
>.sda (or anything much I could understand!).

If you have csdos you should have the text file lha.txt (I think) which has
the syntax.  One thing you MUST have a 17xx ram expander for lharc to work.
I've mad .sfx files before, so if you want me to take you through step-by-
step, let me know.
From: ckunz@src4src.linet.org (Charles Kunz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Novaterm 9.4 status line does not disappear!
Date: 31 Dec 92 05:09:58 GMT
Organization: The Source for Source

In article <220.2B41FB2F@business.fidonet.org> Michael.Smith@f157.n363.z1.fidonet.org (Michael Smith) writes:
>
> JW> It is supposed to dissapear, as you are using 2400 
> JW> baud. Nick says that you cant have status line @ 2400 
> JW> baud.
>I am at 2400 baud.  I have status line.  Thanks for making me special, Nick!

I have a status line too, and I'm at 2400.  In 9.4, the status line should (by
default) appear regardless of baud rate or screen size (40 or 80 cols).

Chuck
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: CS-DOS etc...
From: mcmillan_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 23 Dec 92 13:34:31 NZST
Organization: Welligton City Council, Public Access.
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Many thanks to those who offered help with creating .sfx files. (Not .sda)
I'm a little further ahead, but still not having much luck... C Smeets must
get first prize for writing the most contrived, user-hostile program I've ever
seen!

After running the 'shell' program, I enter the command;
lha -s a:test.sfx a:title a:<any_program_name>

The program resonds:
LHARChive creator for CS-DOS v1.10 - (C)opyright 1990 C. Smeets
REU in use

And that's all!  No .sfx file created, and I can repeat this over and over...

I have the following files on the disk; shell,autoexec,if,getram,setram,
ramdisk,lha,title and a prg file.
Hardware is a flat 128, a 1581 (also tried 1571 - no difference) and a 1750.
(I did have RAMLInk in, but also no difference with it unplugged).

I'm now into my third week of trying to get this CS-DOS LHARC thing to work
and do have a serious and priority use for it.

Does anyone know what could be wrong?? I'm assuming my copies are not bugged
or corrupted - I received them via ftp.

Thanks in advance...

Cheers - Kirk
From: ac803@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael W. Kelley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: user group info
Date: 31 Dec 1992 14:42:24 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ac803@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael W. Kelley)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


The following information is provided for persons looking for a user 
group and Commodore support in areas where none can be found.  Note, 
that with the exception of Basic Bits, I am not affiliated with these 
organizations, but I do correspond with some of their officers either 
via the FidoNet or through Basic Bits.  Enjoy!
 
Basic Bits Commodore Group
P.O. Box 447
No. Ridgeville, OH  44039-0447
Dues are $20 per family per year local membership, $10 per year by 
mail associate membership.  Monthly newsletter, The Commodore 
Compendium.  PD Library for members.
 
ComNet
P.O. Box 390
Woodsfield OH 43793
Dues are $12.00 a year for 6 issues of the newsletter with 20 pages 
each issue. Library disks are $3.00 each, including postage. (By mail
memberships only).
 
Meeting 64/128 Users Through The Mail
R1, Box 151
St. Joseph, IL  61873
Jean Nance, President.
Bi-monthly newsletter, The Commodore MaiLink, current dues not 
available at the time of this writing.  Request membership info at the 
address above.  A S.A.S.E. is appreciated.

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