HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Jay.Ashworth@p8649.f160.n3603.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jay Ashworth)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Toilet paper: over or under?
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 22:51:01 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3603/160.8649 - Hacker's Haven, Clearwater FL

Rick Kelly, to All on 15 Nov 92:

 RK> From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
 RK> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 06:00:29 GMT
 RK> Organization: The Man With Ten Cats

Which means you have 91 lives, right?

 >> ObUL: virtually 50% of all AFU readers surveyed prefer the
 >> over the top method, while the other person preferred the
 >> underneath method.

 RK> Over.

Believe it or not<tm>, there actually purports to be an authoritative answer for this one.

Over.

Because that's the direction in which the pattern printed on the paper is visible when it hangs from the roll.

Thank you, Miss Manners...

Cheers,
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 06:19:57 -0500 
From: Seth Malcolm Redmore <sr2s+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Going Topless/Nude in a Convertable


Mike writes:

>Well, this is relevant to the topic but not the post I'm following up to.
>
>My sister once told me that her boyfriend at the time got stopped by the
>Virginia State Police for driving topless in his convertible.  I'll have to
>ask her about it...
>
>-Mike
        Well, I was stopped by an officer down in Texas when I didn't
have a shirt on.  Then again, it could have been because he clocked
me at 139 mph.

        (Why, you ask, did I stop?  Well, it was on a flat out deserted
ribbon of road that just stretched for _miiillles_, and I knew the cops
around there drove Mustangs that would eat my Mazda alive.)


        Oh, yeah, as for having pets crawl under your brake pedal
I just about died when one of my cats got under there.  thank
God for emergency brakes.

Seth "I knew the cop. " Redmore
From: pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (George Jetson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Tomorrow's Conspiracy Theory, brought to you today.
Date: 22 Nov 92 20:41:48 GMT
Reply-To: pynq@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: D. J. Dougherty & Associates

In article <1992Nov19.203850.10960@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>vince@cadence.com (Vince Gibboni) writes:
Extremely witty story involving vowels deleted 'cause we've all read it and
re-read it many times now.

>Of course, there is also ample evidence that the members of congress should
>not even be entrusted with the difficult task of "buying a vowel". It is
>funny that people, having voted these congress creatures into office, think
>that those creatures are actually going to look out for the voters' interests.

You're wrong about this, Bill.  One of the standard maxims is that
people hate congresscritters in general, but love their own.

A classic example of this continues to play itself out here in Chicago.
Everyone knows that Dan Rostenkowski is every kind of lowlife scum, but
the fact of the matter is he continues to bring home the bacon for us,
and as long as he does that, we'll keep sending him back.

In fact, after his most recent tussle with the law, there was a pretty
big debate here about whether we could afford to lose him...

I.e., he does look out for our interests (probably second only to his own...)
(As in, don't blame me - I didn't vote for him)

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From: mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman)
Subject: Re: AIDS and the CIA (was Question)
Organization: Oracle Corporation
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 03:01:12 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Nov17.021106.10158@vax.oxford.ac.uk> mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>In article <1992Nov15.051857.25110@oracle.us.oracle.com>, mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman) writes:
>> In article <ISBELL.92Nov9074842@panther.ai.mit.edu> isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell) writes:
>>>thf2@quads.uchicago.edu (Mmmm... Purple) writes:
>>>|>|I've seen a similar stat somewhere.  The theory has been most recently
>>>|>|espoused by noted epidemologist and viral specialist Spike Lee, and the
>>>|>|media's been dutifully reporting his ravings.
>>>|>Spike Lee aside, have any of you read _Bad Blood: The Tuskegee
>>>|>Syphilis Experiment_?  

>>>|No, but I'm aware of it.

>>>|>Since the events described therein are true and
>>>|>given the other facts of recent history, why would anyone actually be
>>>|>surprised that there is a large minority of people who believe such
>>>|>things about AIDS, etc?  And in fact, why would anyone dispute the
>>>|>reality, however remote, of the possibility?

>> Sigh.

>> It is impossible because tissue samples containing AIDS dating back to
>> the fifties have been found preserved at various hospitals arround the
>> world.  Back in the fifties we did not have the faintest idea how to
>> create a disease like AIDS.  Therefore, AIDS was not created by anyone
>> unless it was by accident (ala the Wistar theory.)

>Am I missing sonething here?  They didn't create syphillis but they sure as
>hell experimented with it, so why couldn't AIDS experiments have been conducted
>(irrespective of whether they did or not).  It would seem logical that it
>wasn't genetically engineered but that don't stop them from injecting it... 
>Whether it was done I leave that to you guys to thrash out.

McBean, they didn't spread it to experiment with it because by the
time they knew it existed and was interesting they had a full fledged
epidemic on their hands and plenty of people available begging to be
experimented on.

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From: maynard@leah.msc.cornell.edu (Maynard J. Handley)
Subject: Re: CDs cheaper to make than cassettes?
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:53:26 GMT

>>Intel has confused what the notion of appending "SX" to the end of a
>>prevailing design actually means.  It appeared that the poster fell into
>>that trap as a result.
>>
>>In the 386 world, SX means 16-bit smaller version.
>>
>>In the 486 world, SX means co-processor braind-dead or missing.
>>
>>But there is this 16-bit 486 chip (non-Intel) that therefore can't be
>>easily expressed in this notation.  486SX is what I'd like to call it,
>but
>>that isn't quite right, so it's a 16-bit version of a 486SX is the best
>>we can do.
>>
>
>I think they call it SLC or some such - and that chip is refered to as
>a 486, because it has the on-chip cache, it really is the 386sx. This
>is allowing them to re-cycle the 386sx motherboards with a more
>marketing acceptable 486 part number.

No. You have muddled up what Intel means. Intel has long stated that its
chips
come in three versions, the standard version, the SX version which is a
cheaper less powerful version of the standard, and the (SL? I'm not in the
market for portables) chips which are low power versions of the standard.

When pentium comes up, who knows. We might see pentiumSX's which are
pentiums, part of whose superscalar pieces have failed and which perform
the function of the failed region elsewhere on the chip at a cost in speed,
and thus not quite as superscalar. This is different from either 386 SX or
486 SX, but the name still makes sense.

Maynard
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: styri@hal.nta.no (YuNoHoo)
Subject: Re: Gender denoting pictograms on restroom doors
Reply-To: styri@nta.no
Organization: Bohemians and Globetrotters, Unlimited
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 18:21:32 GMT

You guys will of course love all the bars in Scotland where the mens room
is marked with a pictogram of a man wearing a kilt.

---
YuNoHoo  "in another country I picked the door with a line of men waiting
          outside. Didn't realized that they were waiting for their girls"
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Re: Anglican vs C of E
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 09:07:09 GMT

In <1ds8qnINNg1j@fido.asd.sgi.com> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:

>And how many legs does a donkey have, if you call the tail
>a leg?

Three, just like it always did
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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Re: 1950's Darryle, damnit.
Date: 17 Nov 92 01:10:59 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA

derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
: In article <BxryDq.3wK@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta) writes:
: >
: >>Why is it that y'all are trying so hard to believe something that's so
: >>blatantly not true?
: >
: >Your naivety amazes me!
:  
: One wonders if it is possible to _inject_ HIV into a 30 year old non
: living sample and expect it to insert itself into the genetic material 
: on cue.  If HIV can get into dead material who knows what it will do next..

No, it is not possible. However, the conspirists have very effective 
blinders.  It is something called "blind faith" - often associated with
those of very strong  religious convictions. They are so convinced that
they are right that anyone elses view, even when backed up by evidence
and logic, is "naive" or "false".

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: dpm1960@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (snopes)
Subject: Re: Tomorrow's Conspiracy Theory, brought to you today.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Will pay money for food.
Date: 17 Nov 1992 01:27 EST  

In article <1992Nov17.010317.29039@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>, 
  billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes...

>Sure they could. I bet a fair share of the electoral college members could be
>bought - one way or the other.

I seriously doubt committed members of the party of a victorious presidential
candidate could be bought in sufficient quantity to sway a national election.
If the outcome hinged on a single state, deal-making might carry the day, but
not in a case where one candidate was a clear electoral winner.

 - snopes

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From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Organization: gators 'r us
Subject: Re: Yeah, and I think Gladstone....
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:33:46 -0400

In <9b6fwwcp514@wwiv.cojones.com>, John Garrett #150 @9704 writes:
>RE: Re: Can the Prime Minster be Catholic?
>BY: davew#willow03.cray.com (Dave Wagner) #1235 @514
(gladstone, he says in the title)
>was Jewish....

no, that was disraeli.
  it feels odd to be saying this in a way that makes any kind of sense.
-- 
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From: denebeim@brtph254.bnr.ca (Jay Denebeim P025)
Subject: Re: Soldiers breaking step across bridge
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 01:51:37 GMT

In article <BxvGsv.36C@NeoSoft.com> arielle@NeoSoft.com (Stephanie da Silva) writes:
>> |> : A hotel (in Texas?) had some sorta christmas party and people dancing on
>> |> : an overhead walkway caused it to collapse, due to resonance, not weight.
>> |> 
>> |> I believe the determined that it was weight - not resonance. The builder
>> |> used substandard materials and construction techniques.
>
>I thought this happened in St. Louis.
>And the second poster is right -- it had a lot to do with building code
>violations and stuff, so that the walkways weren't strong enough to hold
>the weight of the people who were unfortunate enough to be on it at the time.

Close, it was Kansas City.  My cousin's ex-pseudo-spouse got rich out
of it. She was at the 'tea dance' (not christmas, it was in the fall)
with two of her friends.  She went to the bar to buy the next round of
drinks and her two friends got smashed.

By the way, this is not the only time a Marriot structure that was
pushing the limits of current structural design has fallen down.  (it
was up to code, it just pushed the limit of the state of the art.)
There was a ramp-like structure in one in Texas, I believe, which fell
down, didn't kill anyone though.
-- 
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From: bwatson@nyx.cs.du.edu (bruce watson)
Subject: Re: dishwasher trick
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 19:19:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.205209.1699@bert.eecs.uic.edu> artn@bert.eecs.uic.edu (Stephan Meyers) writes:
I've opened mine at
>many points during the cycle, and it's never splashed out at me), the
>water just splashes on the dishes, right?

Does the light go out when you close the door?


--
Bruce Watson  wats@nyx.cs.du.edu  Toy Cows, Toy Cows in Africa, Toy Cows
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: The Fabrikant case--did it happen?
Keywords: murder
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:51:04 GMT

In article <Bxw60D.ICr@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mcwg9235@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Marsha Woodbury ) writes:
>I need some information ASAP--
>at what school did The Fabrikant case take place.

Some Canadian school.

>Did it?

Yes.  In fact, Fabrikant had been posting to the net for days.  Just
think, the next poster you read could have a screw loose and be a
homicidal maniac!  Bwahahahahahhaha!

>is it an urban legend or what?

All too real to his victims.

>my information is that this guy was a disgruntled
>grad student  who lost it and went on a shooting
>spree,killing innocent people.

Disgruntled faculty member who (to tie together another a.f.u. thread)
was upset that his research was being stolen for the use of senior
faculty members.  He claims/claimed that he wouldn't play along, and
they tried to dismiss him because of it.

I believe his victims were all in the department.  He may have shot
a secretary -- I get him confused with the Iowa killings.
-- 
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the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
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From: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,misc.legal
Subject: Re: US v Guglielmi
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:32:54 GMT
Reply-To: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation

In article <1992Nov18.180658.13448@midway.uchicago.edu>, 
thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:
> The most disgusting thing about the opinion was that Guglielmi got 25 years.

No, the most disgusting thing about the case is that they repeatedly sent it 
down to the district court level, and the judge kept circumventing the Court 
of Appeal's orders.  As I recall, they finally had to issue an order removing 
the distict judge from the case.  They couched it in polite terms, suggesting 
that no one that they've repeatedly sent a case back to like this could be 
expected to really be impartial, despite this particular judge's integrity 
and impartiality, but it seemed clear they didn't trust him any more.

Last I looked at this, a few months back, the final sentence hadn't been 
determined.

Terry Carroll - tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com - 408/992-2152
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From: obrien@netcom.com (Robert O'Brien)
Subject: Re: Gender denoting pictograms on restroom doors
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 03:27:55 GMT

J105270@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:
>
>I've gotten tripped up at Madison Bear Garden, Chico, CA by the sign of a hand
>with "Men's Room" written on it posted on the womens b-room door but pointing
>to the actual men's room. Of course, the actual men's room has the sign
>pointing the other way with "Women's Room" written on it...Havn't had any women
>walk in on me, they must be smarter...
>
>MJG (no, I didn't go to school at CSUC)
>
>

In "old town" Sacramento, _Fanny_Ann's_Saloon_ had that configuration the last
time I was there, nearly 15 years ago.  Led to lots of fun, once in a while, and
I collected on several bets by having the "nerve" to go the "wrong" way ;-}

(yes, I *did* go to CSUS: C.Sci, '81)

In Carmichael, an eastern suburb of Sacramento, my grandfather decided his
welding shop's single bathroom needed a sign.  He settled on "BOTH"
I doubt the new owners have changed it.

	Bob

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From: msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader)
Subject: Re: Soldiers breaking step across bridge
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 19:20:11 GMT


> Close, it was Kansas City.  My cousin's ex-pseudo-spouse got rich out
> of it. ...
> By the way, this is not the only time a Marriot structure that was
> pushing the limits of current structural design has fallen down. ...

It certainly isn't.  It wasn't the Marriott.
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From: dpm1960@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (snopes)
Subject: Re: Calvin/Hobbes diagnosed as clinical schizophrenic
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Will pay money for food.
Date: 16 Nov 1992 20:42 EST  

In article <1992Nov16.231943.27236@informix.com>, 
  proberts@informix.com (Paul Roberts) writes...

>Does anyone else out there think that "Puff the Magic Dragon" is a very
>sad song, especially the lines "Dragons live forever, but not so little
>boys"

Better yet, does anybody out there know anybody who thinks "Puff" is a sad
song?  Does anybody famous think it's a sad song?  And isn't it a song about
drugs, anyway?

 - snopes

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From: pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (George Jetson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Tomorrow's Conspiracy Theory, brought to you today.
Date: 16 Nov 92 00:18:00 GMT
Reply-To: pynq@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: D. J. Dougherty & Associates

In article <15NOV199217433014@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov> dpm1960@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (snopes) writes:

>It was designed that way, and it works very well.  The electoral college
>prevents candidates who do not enjoy broad popular support from winning
>national elections, thus eliminating the possibility of a crank with a huge 
>regional following ascending to the White House.

Would someone care to do the necessary research to see if this
phenomenon has ever actually occurred?  I guess you could start by
looking at the (recently posted) list of candidates who won the
electoral without winning the popular and ask yourself if their
opponents had "large regional followings".  Then you could ask yourself
if they were cranks...

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