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From: cor@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Cory Shimer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Patriots fire MacPherson
Date: 11 Jan 1993 22:57:26 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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I dunno about this... It's hard to get more than about one good player
a year, so if what you saying is true, how could they ever rebuild?

I think you are stressing the talent pool too much, and not
giving enough credit to the coaching staff. I think the coaching staff
did a terrible job this year. Mac may be patially reponsible, but he
was out for most of the year anyway, or running off to funerals or
whatnot.

I'd say they need 1 or 2 more good players to be mediocre, and 2 or three
to be playoff caliber, and 3 to 5 to be serious SB contenders..
but you can have all the talent in the world
and still lose under bad coaching.



>  But most of the talk around Boston is trading the top pick for several good
>  players. They did that the last time they had the number 1 pick, and it
>  worked out pretty well in they got two excellent players for it. They need
>  help in many areas - so spreading out 1 number 1 pick for 2 lower number 1
>  picks makes a lot of sense for the Pats.

I agree. (except I'm not so pessimistic)

>
>  Then again - there is no GM on  the Pats. The Pats are being sold, and if
>  they are waiting for the new owners to come in to hire their own personnel
>  and manager people, they're in trouble, since that will never happen before
>  the April draft.   
>
>  In short - the Pats are in big trouble this draft - the staff is in turmoil and

huh? I don't necessarily agree.
You don't have to be some expert to do a decent job in the draft.

Heck, here's what I'd do :
trade down for two first round picks.

pick up best of whichever is available :

1. WR

2. Pass rusher

3. Offensive line, Corner back or Saftey.

In addition, a free-agency pickup would be key.
I like to dream and think of R. White.
>
>  I think the Pats will trade down and Jones will not be available when they
>  do. Or else nobody will be on the Pats payroll by drafttime and they won't
>  draft anybody!!

Yeah, right. Unless the team ceases to exist, they will
draft people, And I predict they will have a pretty good draft too.

>
>-Ron Birnbaum
> Number One Patriots Fan - rec.sports.football.pro pool

I doubt it, I post even the worst losses!



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From: jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes)
Subject: Re: Dallas Cowboys: Wheaties, Breakfast of Champions!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:18:24 GMT

In article <C0Du4w.4KK@ra.nrl.navy.mil>, liskey@falcon.nrl.navy.mil (Steve Liskey) writes:
> 	I read in The Official Dallas Cowboys Weekly magazine that the
> 	Cowboys will be featured on the cover of Wheaties after they
> 	won the NFC East title.

I can't resist...

That's great!  Now us Eagles fans can eat up and spit out the Cowboys
just like our favorite team:-)!


E-A-G-L-E-S

Joe Dakes
AT&T Microelectronics
555 Union Boulevard
Allentown, PA  18103
alux1!jmd

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From: bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Gary Beason)
Subject: Montana ...a poor sport?
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:08:54 GMT

I'm curious, don't y'all wonder how poorly Joe accepts his back-up role,
especially when compared with Young?  How long has Young been a "team
player"?  
-- 

Gary Beason    			      
Purdue University
bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu
From: kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Predictions.
Date: 13 Jan 93 00:26:16 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1993Jan12.101256.24101@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> stavish@purch.Columbia.NCR.COM writes:
>In article <1993Jan12.055334.9804@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN) writes:
>>In article <C0pyE7.DGH@ns1.nodak.edu> sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (S. Hariharan ) writes:
>>>I agree that it would be better to see the Bills represent the
>>>AFC in the Super-Bowl.  
>>>
>>>I would rather see the Bills playing the 9ers in the SB rather
>>>than see Marino and his Dolphs make a fool of themselves in
>>>front of a global audience (The SB is viewed in many countries
>>>I guess).
>>>
>>>S.H
>>
>>Come on, give the FISH a break and let them make fools of
>>themselves THIS YEAR. The BILLS have already been to the
>>dance TWICE and they did a pretty job of looking like fools.:^)
>
>FOOLS? Who in the AFC had any chance of beating the Redskins last year?
>NO ONE!!! If I remember correctly the Bills FIRST appearance in the 
>Superbowl was called by some "The Best Superbowl Ever".  Hardly
>a performance by fools.  NO ONE has a chance in hell of beating SF or
>Dallas but Buffalo....  They are the only chance at an AFC Superbowl
>Winner and have been the last 5 years!!!

You'll have to forgive John. You see, he's still upset that the Bills made
his beloved 49'ers look like FOOLS in Candlestick Park earlier this year.
Maybe someday he'll get over it, but not too soon.
--Jim
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From: doan@aslslc07.asl.dl.nec.com (Duc Doan)
Subject: Re: The FAT LADY IS SINGING in BUFFALO!
Organization: NEC America, Inc Irving TX
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:26:24 GMT

In article <C0B5x7.1u6@abode.ttank.com> eric@abode.ttank.com (Eric C. Bennett) writes:
>In article <1993Jan3.191522.2505@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN) writes:
>>current score:  Oilers  35  Bills  3
>>
>>Moon and company are in total control of this game.
>>Does anyone want a play by play?
>
>Not really. We all now know that the Bills won 41-38. Who would have ever
>thought? I was listening to the game on the radio while I was working and
>when the Bills started scoring I had a feeling it would turn out the way it
>did. I could not believe it. I like the Bills and the Oilers both. I was
>hoping, for Moon's sake, that the Oilers would win. I don't know how much
>longer he will be around. Hopefully he will get a chance next year.

It is not Moon's fault!!! He is the guy that got the 35 points for them. I 
think something must be done about the coaching staff. To lose a lead that
big is to fire the entire coaching staff.

If Jimmy Johnson is the head coach of the Oilers he probably already released
the entire Houston defense(probowlers or not), fire the entire coaching staff
and then shaved his head and committ suicide.
>
>GO COWBOYS!!
>
>Eric
>
>
>-- 
>
>		Internet: eric@abode.ttank.com
>		    uucp: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!wvus!abode!eric
>


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From: dggok@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (4E150M)
Subject: 49ers/Redskins
Reply-To: dggok@PacBell.COM (David G. Gok)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:50:46 GMT

Since 90% of the game posts are about the Cowboys/Eagles, I 
thought the rest of you would like to hear some notes about
the 49ers/Redskins game.  All info comes from the West County
Times (Bay Area rag) dated 1/6/93:

Joe Montana was officially named the #1 backup QB to Steve Young.
Bono may still be active, in order to hold for kicks.

Harris Barton (49er OT) will start, even though he is only about
80% recovered from his leg injury suffered about 4 weeks ago.  He
will line up opposite Charles Mann (many time Pro-Bowler) protecting
Young's blindside.

Jim Lachey (Redskins OT), who suffered a rib injury against the Vikings,
is expected to play.

Darrell Green (Redskins CB) may not play because of a bruised heel
(he also missed the Vikings game).  Gibbs said that the Redskins
would have to make a decision on Green later in the week.

Current line:         49ers      9 1/2        Redskins

Any info from Redskins land appreciated.
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From: liskey@falcon.nrl.navy.mil (Steve Liskey)
Subject: Dallas Cowboys: Wheaties, Breakfast of Champions!
Organization: Naval Research Lab, Physical Acoustics, Washington, DC
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:14:55 GMT




	I read in The Official Dallas Cowboys Weekly magazine that the
	Cowboys will be featured on the cover of Wheaties after they
	won the NFC East title.  The distribution will be in the Dallas
	area only, and if they go to the big show they will be sold on
	a broader region.  I don't know when the boxes will be printed
	or whether I'm in that "broader region" but I would love to have
	a box or two to show all my Redskin pals! 
	If anyone knows how I can get my hands on a box, or is willing
	to help out a fellow fan and mail a couple of boxes to me (I will
	certainly pay for all charges and any inconvenience) it would be 
	greatly appreciated.

				Steve Liskey
				liskey@falcon.nrl.navy.mil

GO COWBOYS!
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: Oilers vs. Bills
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Date:  4 JAN 93 12:41:03    

In article <103574@netnews.upenn.edu>, satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes...

>Pity the Oiler fan: at the start of the season, their team was tagged the
>early favorite to advanced to the Super Bowl.  After a stormy season, they
>made it in as a wild card losing 2 key games to the foot of Al Del Greco.
> 
>Now, in one of their most important games of the season, they pull:
>	The Biggest CHOKE of the season!!!!

It's my fault.  I'm a jinx.  Proof:

1.)  I've been a Packer fan all my life and they haven't done a thing 
in 25 years.

2.)  I was a part-time Chiefs fan for the past 4 years.  (I guess once 
you're jinxed, you're jinxed for good.)

3.)  I became a part-time Oilers fan this year.

4.)  The 4 teams I wanted to win this weekend: Vikings, Saints, 
Oilers, and Chiefs.

John "Thinking of becomming a 49er fan" Heim
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN)
Subject: Re: NFL's MVP - Steve Young
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:38:16 GMT

In article <C0Hq4q.Buw@Novell.COM> dtokarew@tokafew.Doc.Provo.Novell.COM (Deb Tokarewich) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.075157.16005@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM  
>(JOHN) writes:
>> It was announced tonight that Steve Young, 49ers QB, 
>> has been selected NFL's MVP with Barry Foster a distance 2nd 
>> and in 3rd place, Emmitt Smith.  Let the tides of whiners 
>> come forth and decry the voting process. 
>> 
>> Personally, I find the idea of choosing a NFL player as the
>> league's MVP when you have a handful of legitimate 
>> contenders to be unfair.  It's a team sport! Neither of
>> the aforementioned players could have accomplished their
>> feats without the support from their teammates. 
>
>I'm not going to whine, but can I "come forth" and say something anyway?  
>:-)
>
>Just some thoughts that came to me as I read your post:
>
>* Should MVPs only be selected from teams that are rife with a bunch of
>  losers? Sometimes that's warranted...but make it a stipulation?
>
What about O.J. Simpson of the former Bills? Did he ever win the
NFL's MVP award? Also, why should the the O dominate this award.
There are many unsung/sun D players that should deserve the award.
>
>* Should very good players be penalized because they happen to play with
>  other good players?
>
The whole issue is at best, "clear as mud". Take O.J. again, when playing
then, with the hapless Bills. Would he have won the MVP if he had played
with Dallas or the Steelers during their heyday? Probably, IMHO.

>* In a team sport, *no one* can do anything without at least one other
>  person's help. That's inherent in the concept of "team sports."
>* There's obviously a lot of opinions/arguments about what should
>  constitute an "MVP"...but one thing that can't be disputed is that you
>  can only have MVPs within team sports. If you try to have MVPs in
>  individualistic sports, like tennis or golf, it's impossible. Who would
>  they be most valuable "to"?! So, if it seems we're stuck with MVPs in
>  team sports only, and no one can accomplish what they do in team sports
>  if it weren't for their teammates, and if that concept seems to negate
>  the idea of any *one* person being "most valuable," then I guess the
>  only thing left is to abolish the whole idea of an "MVP."
>
I agree totally.

-- 
 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
"To be absolutely certain about something, one must know
everything or nothing about it."   Olin Miller
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From: krb@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Kevin Barnes)
Subject: Re: The Best of Teams, the Worst of Teams
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:46:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

The big reason for the defensive turn around was that they quit playing 
six D-backs. Towards the end of the 2nd quater they went to a 3 / 4 set.
This gave them 2 linebackers and enabled  them to better contain the run and put some pressure on Moon. The other big factor on D was Houston went to a conserative offence, this gave the Bills an opportunity to get back in stride.




(Go Bills, Banged up, Beaten up, But never giving up!)

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From: Dr. Norman J. LaFave <lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: Who won the previous superbowl ?
X-Xxdate: Tue, 5 Jan 93 10:15:56 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Company
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:19:41 GMT

In article <4896@svin09.info.win.tue.nl> Yves v.d. Vijver,
yvesv@wsooti10.info.win.tue.nl writes:
>Here a question from a football fan in the Netherlands. Last year there
>has been no TV coverage of the NFL season and superbowl. I listened
>to the game on an american broadcast to soldiers in Germany.
>I can't recall any of the game though (TV images are easier).
>Could anyone tell me who won last year's superbowl ?

The Washington Redskins!!!!

Norman

Dr. Norman J. LaFave
Senior Engineer
Lockheed Engineering and Sciences Company




When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro
                               Hunter Thompson
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From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Re: A Super Bowl Fantasye
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 02:47:19 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.215114.21655@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> wcd2z@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (William Camden Daniel) writes:

>Actually it would be more exciting to see the Steelers and the
>Cowboys.  Back to the vintage days!!!!!

No, son.  "Vintage" would be the Packers against the Decatur Staleys (later
to become the Chicago Bears, I believe) in leather helmets and horsehair
pads.

And OUTDOORS, dammit!

-- 
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SoftHelp                                           |  Work:  408 996 1965
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From: thaddeus@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thaddeus R. Crews)
Subject: HAMISH CRAP -- or -- FLUSHING THE SUBJECT!
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:11:10 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.132300.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk> clg292@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
>Hi there Hamish here again,I couldn't resist posting another message after the
>number of flames to my last one.
>   [insulting waste-o-time-&-bandwidth-garbage]
>By the way America has the biggest proportion of iliterate people, in the
>western world, not to mention the porpotion of fat bastards you have.
>
>come yee flame
>
>Hamish 

Greetings r.s.f.p readers,

I don't know about you, but I have had enough of this CRAP and here
is what I have done about it:

I sent mail to "clg292@vaxa.strath.ac.uk" (i.e. Hamish).  That is
all.  Just a HUGE object code (not even executable :-)).  

Now, I am not suggesting that YOU SHOULD DO THE SAME, but I did 
want to share my solution with you all.

Looking forward to some great games this weekend.  Hail Redskins!
-- 
-- Thad Crews                             (email thaddeus@vuse.vanderbilt.edu)
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From: seale@bcserv.wustl.edu (Seale (Jeff))
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Cortez Kennedy
Date: 6 Jan 93 23:16:37 GMT
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bcserv.wustl.edu

 Cortez Kennedy was named AP Defensive player of the year. The one
bright spot in the season, hell, we even managed to lose the #1 pick
in the draft by beating Denver. Oh well, it was worth it. I hate Denver!
Here's to the Seahawks D. Now if we had a decent QB and could manage to
keep people healthy maybe we'd at least be respectable.
Thanks for allowing me to woof the only bright spot on our sorry team.
Jeff (can't wait 'til next year)
From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Running out the clock with the R&S
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:14:57 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

In article <1993Jan4.193436.18622@ncar.ucar.edu> hammond@grizzly.scd.ucar.edu (Steve Hammond) writes:
>
>With the new rules the clock keeps running even on incomplete passes
>and players going out of bounds until the final 5 minutes of the
>2nd and 4th quarters.

What?  When did this happen?  That must be why so many ball games are 
finishing under 3 hours these days.  Geez, what a crummy rule.

JGH
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: richs@microsoft.com (Rick Schaut)
Subject: Re: Domes suck
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:36:15 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Reply-To: richs@microsoft.com (Rick Schaut)
Distribution:  world

In article <1iesbsINNggr@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM writes:
>...YOU sit in Soldier Field in the middle of Nov/Dec/Jan,
>watching a game in 20 degree weather & a wind chill of -20.  Do it once &
>you never will  again.

Andy, I've attended games in Lambeau Field which would make those
conditions look positively balmy, and I'd do it again.  Dress for the part,
and you're just fine.


-- 
Rick Schaut
UUCP:...{uunet | uw-beaver}!microsoft!richs

Microsoft doesn't speak for me, and I don't speak for Microsoft.
From: kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: THE BUFFALO BILLS READY TO SQUISH THE FISH!! : )
Date: 13 Jan 93 00:15:08 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1993Jan12.220807.18067@cs.ucf.edu> tech@cs.ucf.edu (Tony Travaglini) writes:
>In article <5375@ceylon.gte.com> chf0@gte.com writes:
>>
>>I think this could end up being the most even game of the playoffs.
>
>I agree. In addition these two teams have played each other something
>like 11 times in four years. They know each other inside and out. I
>imagine neither team is keeping late hours this week unless some
>suprises are being planned.

I'm sure both teams are planning surprises. Since they both know each other
so well, it would be foolish NOT to have something new planned. Look for
plays that you've never seen before, and a very exciting game. After all,
most of the AFC playoffs this year have been great.

>
>Tony (go buffalo) Travaglini
>tech@cs.ucf.edu

--Jim
From: skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Madden is an Idiot.
Date: 6 Jan 1993 14:48:30 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Atomic Biophysics H.H.M.I.
NNTP-Posting-Host: dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu

In article <1993Jan6.135932.7493@sunova.ssc.gov> rocko@ireland.ssc.gov (Rick O'Leary) writes:
>In article <3246@devnull.mpd.tandem.com>, dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch) writes:
 >|> There is a rumor that Madden has asked OU if he can take over the head
 >|> coaching spot there, so his detractors may not have to deal with him any
 >|> more after this season.
 >|> 
 >|> Daniel Welch

Rumor at CBS NY has it that Madden and Ditka will team up in the 
booth....Now theres and combo !
From: anjaneya@m20_anjaneya.mti.sgi.com (Anjaneya Thakar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: SF Bashing
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:17:14 GMT
Reply-To: anjaneya@m20_anjaneya.mti.sgi.com (Anjaneya Thakar)
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: m20_anjaneya.mti.sgi.com

In article <1993Jan10.035708.21453@Princeton.EDU>, frank@wanda.princeton.edu (Frank Bilotti) writes:
|



>Anjaneya,
>
>	Besides being one of the biggest morons to post here in recent history,
>you also must not be able to read.  No one here (except maybe a few rare
>exceptions)  ......   (deleted)
>


Boy, I must have touched an exposed nerve here !!!! 


Let's see if a simpler argument gets through to this guy .... I do not care
much for Candlestick (I do not have a problem with it, though) but what I
found annoying was one article that somehow indicated that Niners have a 
better record because they play on a lousy field  ..... now you tell me why
this is so?

Other people have already pointed out why natural turf (lousy as it might be)
causes less injuries than astro  .....   so no need to dwell on that!

-anjaneya
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From: jemartin@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Martin)
Subject: Re: Bledsoe to the NFL
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 02:44:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.002739.6226@pbhyg.PacBell.COM> dggok@PacBell.COM (David G. Gok) writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.220431.14516@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jemartin@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Martin) writes:
>>In a rec.sport.football.college article,
>>jjungbau@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer) writes:
>>>Minutes ago, Washington State junior QB Drew Bledsoe announced that he
>>>will indeed make himself eligible for the upcoming NFL draft.  With a
>>>somewhat shaky voice, he first enumerated the reasons for staying and
>>>for leaving:
>>>[...]
>>
>>We know that New England has the #1 pick in the upcoming draft, while the
>>Seahawks will pick second.  I'm curious what those who are familiar with
>>the Pats think of the probability of their picking Bledsoe.  IMHO, the
>>Seahawks are an impact quarterback away from getting back to .500
>>(perhaps even better) within the next couple seasons, and would certainly
>>take Bledsoe if he were still available.
>>Any comments?
>
>Do you even know if there will BE a draft?  What do you think of New
>England's chance of getting some quality players if college players
>can go anywhere they please?

Well, considering there's been an NFL college draft for the past 61 years,
that certainly enough grounds for me.  Am I missing something here?
Please enlighten.

(Would you as a college football player rather go to a 2-14 or a 14-2 team?)

Cheers

John
--
 John E. Martin    jemartin@nyx.cs.du.edu      University of Puget Sound '92
    Kent, WA     (formerly martin@ups.edu)   SeinfeldSuperSonicsBC++RushDWeckl
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From: dansmith@mcopn2.dseg.ti.com (Dan Smith)
Subject: Re: The FAT LADY IS SINGING in BUFFALO!
Reply-To: dansmith@mcopn2.dseg.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:02:30 GMT

I am not a Buffalo or Houston supporter but I did enjoy that great game
Sunday. An observation to the guy who posted about Houston's onside kick
however: it was not an onside kick, simply one of those squib kicks to keep
the opposing team from getting a decent return. However, the squib kick hit
a Buffalo player lined up for the kick off. This may have looked like an 
onside kick but it wasn't. I believe even the announcers pointed that out.

Another observation: how big is that mishandled field goal by the Houston
holder now.