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From: hough@seismo.gps.caltech.edu (Susan Hough)
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes,sci.geo.geology,sci.astro,sci.archaeology,sci.geo.meteorology,sci.research
Subject: Re: THE TRUE CAUSE & ORIGIN OF EARTHQUAKES (AND THEIR PREDICTION)
Date: 15 Oct 1992 16:09:22 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: earth.gps.caltech.edu
Summary: sheesh
Keywords: ELF Monitoring, Earthquake Forecasting, Magnetic Fluctuations

In article <2ADCC2C0.22668@news.service.uci.edu> lockhart@uci.edu writes:
>
>                "THE TRUE CAUSE AND ORIGIN OF EARTHQUAKES"
>                         AND THEIR PREDICTION)
>
>                         BY: DAVID K. YOUMANS
>
>behavior.  Despite all the theory advanced by seismologists today
>pertaining to plate tectonics, etc., scientists are still without any
>consistent or logical means of predicting them.  While these
>scientists proficiently claim they "understand" the physics of the
>Earth, the subject of earthquakes and their predictions cast more than
>a reasonable doubt on such claims.  It is highly unlikely that anyone
>understands anything until a predictable base of knowledge is
>established to bring about results that are consistent with the
>phenomenon in the REAL WORLD.  Theory can never pass into the realm of
>actual KNOWLEDGE until it passes such test, and very little, if any,

You are confused about the nature of scientific method.  Hypotheses
posed concerning earthquakes can be tested successfully without
the ability to predict earthquakes.  

Plate tectonic theory predicts
that earthquakes will occur along plate boundaries--look at a map
of global seismicity; there is a splattering of diffuse seismicity,
but the vast majority of the moment release is concentrated in thin
bands that neatly delineate plate boundaries.

Plate tectonics and elastic rebound theory predict that, away from the
plate boundary, the plates will move past each other at a rate on the
order of cm's per year, while movement along the fault line(s) will
occur in discrete steps (i.e., earthquakes).  Look at the geodetic (mostly
GPS) results across the San Andreas fault system--they give a far-field
relative plate velocity of 4.7 cm/yr, with no steady motion at all
along a line that coincides with the San Andreas system.  The simplest
plate tectonic theories have been revised in recent years to reflect
the current knowledge that the entire 4.7 cm/yr is not taken up on
a single fault, but rather the motion is taken up over a zone. 
 
The wave equation predicts how the ground will move near vs away
from an earthquake.  Seismologists are now able to model accurately
both near and far-field ground motions using these theories, in many
cases remarkably well.  

I think that's about as much time as this deserves.
 
>                            (to be continued)

I can hardly wait!

Sue Hough (speaking for myself, as always, and not the USGS)
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From: stssram@st.unocal.COM (Bob Myers)
Subject: Re: La Jolla "AuroraQuake"?
Reply-To: Bob.Myers@st.unocal.com
Organization: Unocal Science and Technology Division
	<1992Oct9.163844.22308@nas.nasa.gov>
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:46:46 GMT

>>>>> On Fri, 9 Oct 92 16:38:44 GMT, eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) said:

Eugene> Wow!  These military guys must be impressive to stage an explosion
Eugene> to coincide with their plane test.

I thought that's what military planes were for.... 

--
Bob Myers                              Unocal Science & Technology Division
Internet: Bob.Myers@st.unocal.com      Seismic Research and Applications
Phone: [714] 693-6951                  P. O. Box 68076
                                       Anaheim, California 92817-8076
From: Renee@cup.portal.com (Renee Linda Roberts)
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes
Subject: Re: Anniversary Reminder
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 18:43:24 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ca

Well, those two structures went some time ago. The 880 (Cypress Viaduct) was
demolished in the days/weeks after the quake. The Embarcadero went in 1991
(God I am glad that eyesore is gone!).

Many people outside of California (and even the Bay area) are not aware that
many communities are still struggling with damage from the quake. Buildings
are still being demolished as a result of damage from 3 years ago. Some water
pipes have still not been restored (mountain folk primarily), and to add to
all of that, the freeways are a mess (Don't you just LOVE Caltrans) due to
widening and general destruction (Not necessarily quake related).

Set your watch for 5:04pm Pacific time, and think of those who lost their
lives, and whose lives were forever affected by mother nature 3 years ago.


Renee Roberts
From: lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes
Subject: Re: Lights and Luminescence (was: THE TRUE CAUSE...)
Keywords: earthquakes lights, luminescence
Date: 16 Oct 92 23:29:35 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

In article <51352@seismo.CSS.GOV> stead@skadi.CSS.GOV (Richard Stead) writes:
>
>The lifesaver effect is "triboluminescence".  It is an irreversible, destructive
>process generally occurring in crystalline substance that have good cleavage.
>It happens when the material is crushed, cracked or scratched.
>
>This has most definitely been proposed as a source of earthquake lights,
>but the main weakness is that both rocks and the soil covering them are
>pretty opaque, so the light shouldn't shine through, even if present.
>Some folks have pointed out to me mechanisms whereby photons can excite
>phonons, but they aren't acoustic vibrations or whole-body deformations
>which was what I was looking for with the term "Piezo-optical".
>
   Sorry, I left off the smiley on the wintergreen lifesaver
   posting.  From the original wacko subject matter, it seemed
   unnecessary.

   My understanding is that the wacko posting was that LIGHT causes
   the earthquakes...   
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From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes,sci.geo.geology,sci.astro,sci.archaeology,sci.geo.meteorology,sci.research
Subject: Re: THE TRUE CAUSE & ORIGIN OF EARTHQUAKES (AND THEIR PREDICTION)
Keywords: ELF Monitoring, Earthquake Forecasting, Magnetic Fluctuations
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:42:47 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA

In article <1992Oct15.142108.18665@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu>
lerner@ldgo.columbia.edu (art lerner-lam) writes:
>Best argument I've seen for moderating this newsgroup.

Group?  Or groups:
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes,sci.geo.geology,sci.astro,sci.archaeology,
		sci.geo.meteorology,sci.research

Which one?  Or all of them?  Unfortunately, it will NEVER happen post-facto.
I'll keep the ca distribution.  You can cut down the newsgroups to ones you
feel are relevant.

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Associate Editor, Software and Publication Reviews
  Scientific Programming
  {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene
Seeking Books to buy:	Bongard, Pattern Recognition
			Imhof, Cartographic Relief Presentation
			Books on or by Benjamin Whorf
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From: tar@ISI.EDU (Thomas A. Russ)
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes
Subject: Re: Earthquake Sensuality Scale
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:43:31 GMT
Reply-To: tar@isi.edu
Distribution: ca
Organization: USC-ISI
In-reply-to: amark@inst-sun1.jpl.nasa.gov's message of 8 Oct 92 16:41:27 GMT

In article <...> amark@inst-sun1.jpl.nasa.gov (Al Mark) writes:

 > I was at my home in BBL
 > when the Landers and BBL quakes happened and was home for the three weeks
 > following these events and live essentially at the BBL "ground zero". 
 > Lotsa people asked me how this or that aftershock felt, so I came up with
 > this scale.
 > 
 > THE MARK SCALE OF EARTHQUAKE SENSUALITY
 > 

So, how did Landers and BBL rate on the Mark Scale?
--

Thomas A. Russ                                             tar@isi.edu    
USC/ISI, 4676 Admiralty Way, Marina del Rey, CA 90292      (310) 822-1511
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From: c@wet.UUCP (Chuck Charlton)
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes,sci.geo.geology,sci.astro,sci.archaeology,sci.geo.meteorology,sci.research
Subject: Re: THE TRUE CAUSE & ORIGIN OF EARTHQUAKES (AND THEIR PREDICTION)
Keywords: ELF Monitoring, Earthquake Forecasting, Magnetic Fluctuations
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:18:18 GMT
Followup-To: ca.earthquakes
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

He's from Indiana, huh?  Isn't that the state that tried to define pi as 3? 
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes
From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: La Jolla "AuroraQuake"?
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 21:08:01 GMT

A diversion....

In article <1b4eq2INN1uf@agate.berkeley.edu>
greg@perry.berkeley.edu (Greg Anderson) writes:
>Hey, after all, these are the "same guys who framed Pete Rose".
>Or don't you believe Dan Akroyd (sp?)?
>;->
I see you's ;-> and I'll add my 8^), too.  I just recently saw it.
I believe Akroyd implicitly.


Just a matter of decoupling.


Say Greg, Why don't you contribute a seismic software review to our new
Journal?

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Acting Associate Editor, Software and Publication Reviews
  Scientific Programming
  {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene
Seeking Books to buy:	Bongard, Pattern Recognition
			Imhof, Cartographic Relief Presentation
			Books on or by Benjamin Whorf
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes
From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Re: THE TRUE CAUSE & ORIGIN OF EARTHQUAKES
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:27:47 GMT

In article 21258@alex.com, dec@alex.com (Doug Clinton) writes:
>In article <Bw68rw.Iv3@wrs.com>, gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven) writes:
>|> 
>|> The current researchers don't claim the ability to predict earthquakes.
>
>So does that make what they do science, mysticism or just a hobby?

Yes.

---
Richard Stueven        gak@wrs.com         attmail!gakhaus!gak        107/H/3&4

        I'm always more outspoken after a few pints of Guinness.
                - Mrs. E. Slocombe
From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser)
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes
Subject: Re: La Jolla "AuroraQuake"?
Date: Fri,  9 Oct 92 07:23:21 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Since no one posted a followup to this (yet), last night (Thurs,
8 Oct, just before 10pm Pacific Time) there was an explosion and
fire at the Texaco refinery in Wilmington, CA. Rattled my windows
in Torrance, and had the potential for disaster from toxic clouds
of burning hydrogen sulfide. Local news carried it till about
1am this morning (Friday). As of later this morning, the fire had
just about burned itself out and inspectors were ready to move
in and assess the damage. 
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes
From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear)
Subject: La Jolla "AuroraQuake"?
Reply-To: brian@coconut.com
Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc., La Jolla, CA
Date: 08 Oct 92 22:02:38 PDT


A few minutes ago, 9:55pm my time, the roof of my office building 
started rumbling something fierce, for about 5 to 7 seconds.  I thought
people were up on the roof of the building fighting or running around
directly above my office.

But there was no-one.  I called my wife at home, a mile away, and
she had heard the same noises at home, and wondered if someone was
breaking into the front door or something.

It definitely wasn't a quake; neither of us felt any ground
movement or shaking in the floor or walls, something we are
well used to in California.

I have read in here recent notes about some sort of "Aurora"
high speed military jet sonic booms in Southern California.
But I thought it was just some L.A. phenom.  Not anymore!

I would like to know more.  Is there any press writeup on
this jet, and its activities in SoCal?  Or if it isn't a sonic
boom, just what the heck is going on?

-- brian

Brian Dear /// Coconut Computing, Inc. /// brian@coconut.com



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From: blp@cypress.com (Bruce Prickett/PROM)
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes,sci.geo.geology,sci.astro
Subject: Re: THE TRUE CAUSE & ORIGIN OF EARTHQUAKES (AND THEIR PREDICTION)
Keywords: ELF Monitoring, Earthquake Forecasting, Magnetic Fluctuations
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:10:36 GMT
Reply-To: blp@cypress.com.UUCP (Bruce Prickett/PROM)
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor, San Jose, CA


When I was an undergrad at Caltech (very briefly in astronomy, no less),
I worked the evening switch-board on campus. Other than the flood of
panicky calls that happened after every little earth-quake, the worst
calls to field were from people who wanted to talk about solar flares,
planetary conjunctions, and catastrophic earthquakes. I guess the
field of pseudo-science hasn't progressed much in ten years, except
to gain direct access to the net.

Bruce Prickett
From: winter@Apple.COM (Patty Winter)
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes
Subject: Re: La Jolla "AuroraQuake"?
Date: 10 Oct 92 06:48:25 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) writes:
>>I have read in here recent notes about some sort of "Aurora"
>>high speed military jet sonic booms in Southern California.
>>But I thought it was just some L.A. phenom.  Not anymore!

Auroraquakes are nothing new in the San Diego area. I felt three during
the eight months I lived there (Oct. '91 to June '92). Even though what
you heard Thursday evening may indeed have been the explosion south of 
L.A. (sheesh! That's a long distance away...), you could well feel a real
Auroraquake sometime.


scott@ryptyde.cts.com (Scott McClure) writes:
>Besides, any mythical/semi-mythical/classified military aircraft would be
>tested out in the desert, NOT near a major population center. 

Care to call the Air Force and suggest that to them? :-)  I'm sure everyone
in Southern California who's been awakened by their "mythical" planes
would appreciate the extra sleep...


Patty

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From: stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini)
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes
Subject: Re: THE TRUE CAUSE & ORIGIN OF EARTHQUAKES (AND THEIR PREDICTION)
Keywords: ELF Monitoring, Earthquake Forecasting, Magnetic Fluctuations
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:49:14 GMT
Organization: Unocal Corporation

The true test of a theory's correctness if it quantifably predict phenomena
better than another theory.

Conventional earth science has *NOT* been too good at short term predictions
so far.  However, I am most confident that this approach will eventually
give results in the future compared to the generalizations in this article.

I would not write off short-prediction completely to chaos theory as
another poster suggested.

Conventional earth science *HAS* been rather good at more general predictions
such as the long term probablity of a quake and the maximum expected motion.
This may be more practical than short term predictions in encouraging the
proper design of structures and emergency preparedness.  It is psychological
comforting to know more precisely when a quake will occur.
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From: cain@geomag.gly.fsu.edu (Joe Cain)
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes,sci.geo.geology,sci.astro,sci.archaeology,sci.geo.meteorology,sci.research
Subject: Re: THE TRUE CAUSE & ORIGIN OF EARTHQUAKES (AND THEIR PREDICTION)
Keywords: ELF Monitoring, Earthquake Forecasting, Magnetic Fluctuations
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:20:49 GMT
Organization: Florida State University Geology Dept.

In article <1992Oct15.142108.18665@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu> lerner@ldgo.columbia.edu (art lerner-lam) writes:
>Best argument I've seen for moderating this newsgroup.

I would think just adding to a KILL file and otherwise ignoring would
be preferable unless someone wishes to volunteer for such an onorous
task.

Joseph Cain		cain@geomag.gly.fsu.edu
cain@fsu.bitnet		scri::cain
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From: jschiffe@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Jarad Schiffer)
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes,sci.geo.geology,sci.astro,sci.archaeology,sci.geo.meteorology,sci.research
Subject: Re: THE TRUE CAUSE & ORIGIN OF EARTHQUAKES (AND THEIR PREDICTION)
Summary: Is this for real?
Keywords: ELF Monitoring, Earthquake Forecasting, Magnetic Fluctuations
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:57:58 GMT
Followup-To: ca.earthquakes


Well, that was.... interesting. I especially like the parts
about how the earth must store up energy in order to maintain
its orbit and revolution (I guess he never heard of inertia - 
it takes energy to change speed, not to stay at the same   
speed...).  I also like the parts about electrical waves being
slowed down to the visible spectrum by the earths crust, with the
slowed waves pushing out the light of the sun to make it dark...
I saw a lot of big impressive sounding words used out of context
so that someone who has no idea what they mean might be impressed...
But I will gladly swallow my laughter and suspend my disbelief if
the author can do one simple thing - apply his "theory" and make
me 5 predictions for the next 5 earthquakes to strike the earth.
I want time (lets say even to the nearest month since geologists
can't be very precise either) and place. If even 1 of them is right,
I'll gladly accept his gibberish as the gospel of geology.
Ask him to make the predictions and post them here.

Jarad Schiffer
UCSD Biology graduate student
(I don't know that much about geology, but I DO know how
to spot meaningless hand-waving.....)
From: greg@perry.berkeley.edu (Greg Anderson)
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes
Subject: Re: La Jolla "AuroraQuake"?
Date: 9 Oct 1992 17:16:50 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: andy.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Oct9.163844.22308@nas.nasa.gov> eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) writes:
>Wow!  These military guys must be impressive to stage an explosion
>to coincide with their plane test.
>
>--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov


Hey, after all, these are the "same guys who framed Pete Rose".
Or don't you believe Dan Akroyd (sp?)?

;->

Greg Anderson
greg@perry.berkeley.edu
From: weiss@curtiss.seas.ucla.edu (Michael Weiss)
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes
Subject: Another Auroraquake
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:17:47 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles

Yup, there was another Auroraquake at 6:39 this morning.  How long will it be
before someone admits responsibility for these events?
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Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes
Subject: Re: La Jolla "AuroraQuake"?
From: rivero@mdcbbs.com (Michael Rivero)
Date: 9 Oct 92 11:09:55 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: M&E (Division of EDS), Cypress CA

In article <1992Oct08.220238.10326@crash>, coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) writes:
|> 
|> A few minutes ago, 9:55pm my time, the roof of my office building 
|> started rumbling something fierce, for about 5 to 7 seconds.  I thought
|> people were up on the roof of the building fighting or running around
|> directly above my office.
|> 
|> I would like to know more.  Is there any press writeup on
|> this jet, and its activities in SoCal?  Or if it isn't a sonic
|> boom, just what the heck is going on?
|> 

  The "Aurora" is not officially aknowledged to exist by any agency of
the United Sattes Government. Like the SR-71 back in the 60's, there are a 
lot of rumors, all officially ignored, and the few accidental sightings
are ascribed to "kooks" and "UFO cultists".  So I doubt there are any well
informed articles out there.



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Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes
From: jeff@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Jeff Freymueller)
Subject: Re: THE TRUE CAUSE & ORIGIN OF EARTHQUAKES (AND THEIR PREDICTION)
Keywords: ELF Monitoring, Earthquake Forecasting, Magnetic Fluctuations
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 23:33:54 GMT

In article <51341@seismo.CSS.GOV> stead@skadi.CSS.GOV (Richard Stead) writes:
>In article <2ADCC3D6.22769@news.service.uci.edu>, lockhart@uci.edu (Jack C. Lockhart) writes:
>> Part 2/3
>
>I should have read ahead.  This is a heck of a load of manure.
>None of his words make sense together.  He understands none of the words he
>uses.  I cannot comment on any of it, since it is a huge un-ending ocean
>of drivel.  I could write a computer program to associate nouns and verbs
>randomly, but grammatically correct, and feed it a technical dictionary,
>and it would generate exactly the same stuff.
>
>>      The Sun and Moon operate jointly to CREATE residual stores of
>> electromagnetic energy in the molten semi-conductive core of the Earth
>> ...quantums of energy are later discharged and vectored ... in the form of
>> earthquakes... inter--change of forces is of basic cosmic importance ...
>> operation of the solar system and the universe ... cause of gravitational
>> attractions .. frequency of axial change or reversal ..
>> SEISMIC CYCLES (earthquakes) that other features of higher magnitude ...
>> mathematical matrix through which the cosmic energy-exchange proceeds,
>> and how to compute the behavior of light forces ...
>> intermittently transformed from one density level to another and back ...
>> nothing more than polarized light-fields whose magnetic charges cause
>> them to orbit at various positional speeds relative to each other ...
>> acts to govern the motion of all physical bodies everywhere ...
>> Earthquakes are thus the "SOUND OF LIGHT" ...
>> Were it not for EARTHQUAKES, the physical
>> manifestation of such hidden forces, we would not be aware of the
>> existence of them and their operation.  We would be committed to
>> perpetual darkness and incapable of understanding the higher operative
>> forces of Nature and of the Universe.  Earthquakes thus become a
>> COSMIC SIGHT-GLASS.
>
>I love B movies!  This guy obviously writes them.  I wondered who did that.
>Anybody remember the male alien's monologue at the end of "Plan 9 from
>Outer Space" before the fire starts on the UFO?  Striking similarities
>to this!  I think we've found a positive correlation here.
>
Actually, there is a better correlation to Umberto Eco's "Foucault's
Pendulum", in which three editors make up a theory to explain why all
important historical events of the last several hundred years have been
the result of actions by secret groups which are descended from the
Knights Templars. Except that Eco does it better than this guy.

Jeff