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From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Illinois to ban radar detectors as of Jan 1??
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:00:39 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.213227.10833@midway.uchicago.edu> duve@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
|In article <1992Dec12.025650.21818@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> bw557@cleveland.freenet.edu writes:
|>
|>Of course, such bans are illegal under federal law.  A bill passed
|>back in the 1930's affirmed citizens' rights to receive signals
|>throughout the electromagnetic spectrum.  Under one interpretation of
|>that bill, radar detectors are legal...regardless of what the various
|>states might say.

That would be the Communications Act.  Superceded by the EPCA of 1986,
in some respects, including the law that makes it illegal to listen to
cellular communication.  

See, the Communications Act makes it legal to recieve signals throughout
the spectrum, but limits what you can do with non-broadcast information.
Specifically, you cannot divulge the information, or use it for gain.
Well, I'd say that a radar detector falls under the "use it for gain"
heading.  That, and the fact that radar detectors could be construed
as obstruction of justice, makes radar-detector bans federally legal.

As far as individual states go, however, the ball is free.

|Radar detectors have been illegal in both Connecticut and Virginia for
|as long as I've been driving.  

Haven't been driving long, eh?  :-)

|It doesn't really matter in VA with 65
|mph speed limits and few cops, but CT can be a real hassle with 55 mph
|limits and many unmarked patrol cars.  I have a fiend who was pulled
|over near New Haven by a minivan.  

A state 55 limit?  Boy, they're really SERIOUS about their income
generation.

IMHO, speed laws such as this, and radar detector bans, do little to
increase highway safety.  I agree with John Quist that the only really 
effective way to make driving safer is to educate and test the drivers 
on a regular basis. But what the laws DO accomplish is padding the state 
coffers, so they stand, whereas education COSTS money, so it doesn't.

		Dave Svoboda
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: mjf@gagme.chi.il.us (Michael J. Frankel)
Subject: Re: chi.personals
Originator: mjf@gagme
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 18:57:14 GMT

In article <1992Dec8.145400.777@sdc.com> kenk@sdc.com (Ken Konecki) writes:
>In article <1992Dec7.152354.21454@Firewall.Nielsen.Com> kmcnabb@pcserver2.Naitc.Com (Keith McNabb) writes:
>>For so many years now, television has been criticized as a medium which
>>has consistently failed to live up to its potential.  I see the
>>Internet pretty much the same way.  Being able to share ideas with, and
>>perhaps even get to know, people all over the country and even the
>>world is a tremendous opportunity.
>
>I have met, befriended and/or angered quite a few people via Usenet
>and all without benefit of a personals newsgroup.  One doesn't need a
>special newsgroup to find people you wish to communicate with since
>there are hundreds of other newsgroups in which to find people with
>interests similar to yours.  Do you like science fiction? Read any of the
>rec.art.sf newsgroups, you'll find lots of other peoplt who like science
>fiction too.  Do enjoy motorcycling and being flamed?  Read
>rec.motorcycles.  Do you like to tinker with your car on weekends?  Read
>rec.autos.tech and find lots of people who do too.  Do you hate the 55
>mile per hour speed limit?  Read rec.autos and join the crusade for roads
>without speed limits.  The list goes on and on.
>
>By meeting people through special interest newsgroups, you already know
>that the person you've met has something in common with you, something
>you're never guaranteed through a personals group.  Of course if your goal
>is to meet someone with whom you have nothing in common, this is a moot
>point.
>
>The Internet, and even television to some extent, is what you make of it.
>You can't just sit back and wait for it to fulfill its potential; you as a
>user have to actively work at achieving whatever goals you have set for
>it.
>
>Cheers,
>    -Ken K
>-- 
>Ken Konecki
>e-mail:kenk@sdc.com    -or-    ...!uunet!tellab5!sdc!kenk
>"Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery"



Ken, 

I have come to  the conclusion that you are a pompous bore.  Your 
posts are, to say the least, tedious.  Most people do not like
continuous lecturing.  

CHEERS,
    -Mike F	
-- 



------------------------
Michael J. Frankel --- mjf@gagme.chi.il.us or fjm@csc3b.depaul.edu

And the rain is brain-colored.
And the thunder sounds like something remembering nothing.

                          -Stan Rice

Newsgroups: chi.general
From: randy@chinet.chi.il.us (Randy Suess)
Subject: Re: Cordless soldering iron -- where?
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 15:34:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.235837.26056@news.acns.nwu.edu> jland@nwu.edu (John Landwehr) writes:
>So where in Chicago can I find a good cordless-rechargable soldering iron?
>I thought it would make a good Xmas gift for someone, and I cannot find  
>one.
>
	I went looking for one a while ago, and couldn't fine one.
	I ended up with what I think is better.  Radio Shack (!) has
	a butane powered portable iron!  Bout the size and shape of a
	large fountain pen.  You fill it with a standard lighter
	butane canister.  Heats up in about 5 seconds.  You can other
	tips, such as blow torch, etc.  I have used it for on-site
	motherboard repair, and auto wiring work.
	Think the current price is about $35.00.  Not bad when you
	consider it is fully portable (no charger) and unlike nicad
	powered ones, won't die.  Nicads last about a year.


-- 
	I am created Shiva the Destroyer; Death, the shatterer of worlds!
	Who is this dog meat who stands before me now?
	That's the biz, sweetheart.
Randy Suess					 randy@chinet.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: chi.general,uchi.general
From: mandrews@portal.hq.videocart.com (Mike Andrews)
Subject: Re: Illinois to ban radar detectors as of Jan 1??
Organization: VideOcart Inc.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:09:39 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.000039.2087@rtsg.mot.com> svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) writes:
>In article <1992Dec12.213227.10833@midway.uchicago.edu> duve@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>|In article <1992Dec12.025650.21818@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> bw557@cleveland.freenet.edu writes:
>|>
>|>Of course, such bans are illegal under federal law.  A bill passed
>|>back in the 1930's affirmed citizens' rights to receive signals
>|>throughout the electromagnetic spectrum.  Under one interpretation of
>|>that bill, radar detectors are legal...regardless of what the various
>|>states might say.
>
>That would be the Communications Act.  Superceded by the EPCA of 1986,
>in some respects, including the law that makes it illegal to listen to
>cellular communication.  
>
>See, the Communications Act makes it legal to recieve signals throughout
>the spectrum, but limits what you can do with non-broadcast information.
>Specifically, you cannot divulge the information, or use it for gain.
>Well, I'd say that a radar detector falls under the "use it for gain"
>heading.  That, and the fact that radar detectors could be construed
>as obstruction of justice, makes radar-detector bans federally legal.
>
>		Dave Svoboda

Which brings up a thing I've always wondered about: Why is the press 
allowed to use monitoring of police and fire communications as a
source of news leads?  All of the TV and newspaper newsrooms use 
scanners.

And WGN radio's Larry Shreiner often goes on the air and
says he's enroute to a fire or police incident that he just heard 
on his MOBILE scanner. This is a violation in that a) he's using the
info heard for personal gain, b) he is repeating what he's heard, which
is illegal under the 1934 act, and c) he is using a mobile scanner to
monitor police radio which violates Illinois law.

I guess it's OK because it's WGN=Chicago,Wally Phillips,America,Apple Pie
and because Schreiner is an ex-cop police/fire groupie. (Actually, I 
understand from cops that knew him that he just drive around a Chicago
PD brass.)


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mandrews@hq.videocart.com                               300 South Wacker Drive
Network Administrator                                   Chicago, IL 60606 USA
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mandrews@hq.videocart.com                                300 South Wacker Drive
Network Administrator                                    Chicago, IL 60606 USA
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: ccullen@ops-2.Naitc.Com (Carolyn Cullen)
Subject:  Star Trek Christmas Ornaments
Summary:  Store that is selling them half-price.
Keywords: Star Trek
Organization: AC Nielsen Co., Bannockburn IL
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 20:50:01 GMT


F.Y.I., The Hallmark Store at the Century Mall (Diversey and Clark) is
selling the 1992 Star Trek Shuttlcraft Galileo christmas ornaments for
half-price, that is, $12.  They said they ordered 72 after their original
shipment of 72, and are still overstocked.  Just posting in case anyone
has had trouble finding them.

As they say, I'm not connected with them, just a satisfied customer.

Carolyn
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ccullen@nis.naitc.com	crawling and swimming, but they don't 
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Newsgroups: chi.general,misc.misc
From: wdp@gagme.chi.il.us (Bill Pfeiffer)
Subject: Re: Illinois to ban radar detectors as of Jan 1??
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Distribution: il
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 07:35:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.142456.9540@sdc.com> kenk@sdc.com (Ken Konecki) writes:
>In article <1992Dec10.235946.10523@sacs.com> grs@sacs.com (Gregg Siegfried) writes:
>>On the other hand, will
>>the ban on detectors actually make any difference?
>
>Not really considering that radar jammers (which are illegal in all
>states) are quite prevalent among the over the road truck driving set.  I
>even know a few non-truck drivers who have them installed in their cars.

VERY bad idea.  Considering the fact that there are three approved radar bands 
AND now laser.  I would hate to be hit with a federal rap for operating an
unlicensed radar transmitter just to save the bother of slowing down for a cop.

Plus, if the thing fails, is there any way to know that?  I just think
it is the height of arrofgance and stupidity to use one.  How much
actual speed could you get away with right past a traffic cop?  Like
these guys can't tell 55 from 90!  

Give me a radar detector any day.  I don't mind slowing down.

Bill  
Newsgroups: chi.general,uchi.general
From: mea@cbnewse.cb.att.com (mark.e.anderson)
Subject: Re: Apartment Application Fee $25?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 07:52:28 GMT

In article  lewis@ils.nwu.edu (Sharon Lewis) writes:
 
>I too refuse to give away $25.  If a landlord has 25 prospective renters,
>he has a lot of money to deal with that he won't give back.  This shit
>started on the southside some years ago when landlords decided they didn't
>want to spend their own money for credit checks.  

As a small time landlord, it is imperative to get credit checks on
prospective tenants.   We charge the application fee only after
deciding on a tenant.  The entire application fee goes to the credit
bureau.  We use the results from the credit check to determine the
risk of having a bad tenant and the size of their security deposit.

Trying to evict someone for not paying rent is a long and expensive
process.  Considering a year lease at $600/month, $25 is a drop in the
bucket.  And considering that an ad in the paper usually
swamps our phone lines, we can pretty much pick and choose.
Charging the application fee also guarantees that we will
not get stuck for the credit check if the applicant changes
their mind.  I see nothing wrong with charging this fee.

There are alot of unscrupulous landlords out there that will take 
advantage of this though. 

Newsgroups: chi.general
From: wayner@cs.cornell.edu (Peter Wayner)
Subject: Al Capone Question...
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:31:19 GMT

Does anyone know any details about the Al Capone trial
for tax evasion? I've only seen the movie, "The Untouchables"
and I was wondering how much of the facts are true. 
The name of the second banana, Frank Nitti, is historically
accurate, but I'm wondering if anyone knows any details
about the bookkeeper's testimony? Was this necessary?
Were the books really in code? 

Any hometown historians out there?

Peter Wayner
(pcw@access.digex.com)

-- 
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EMail:wayner@cs.cornell.edu    Office: 607-255-9202 or 255-1008
Home: 116 Oak Ave, Ithaca, NY 14850  Phone: 607-277-6678
From: rrezaian@austral.chi.il.us (Russell Rezaian)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: new domain for 708
Date: 10 Dec 92 19:37:25 GMT
Distribution: chi
Organization: D.O.C. Data Processing Systems

In article <1992Dec9.222208.29282@gagme.chi.il.us> dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com (DWT) writes:
>But the question was not about regional news hierarchies; rather it was
>about regional domain parks.  I don't think there is cause to divide the
>*.chi.il.us domain into separate domains for city sites and suburban sites.

Nor do I, it is however technicaly feasable.

>[I'd rather see all the suburban administrators of sites with *.chi.il.us
> names keep them so that they have to admit that their home towns are
> satellites of Chicago, but that's a side issue.

Sattelites?  I tend to think of Chicago as something more than the strict
legal boundries.  I think of Chicago more as bounded by harder to define
subjective qualities.  I can make a case that the "satellite" community
that I live in is part of Chicago, after all, I can drive fom here to the
lake and the enitre drive (depending on the route I take) can be through
pretty heavy urban territory.

The city sprawls through and around simplistic political boundries, and I
have no affinity for those artifical limits.

Incidentally, a lot of those "satellites" were founded long before the
political Chicago, but I agree, this corner of the state is the way it is
because of Chicago.

>Is there any site in Illinois, now that jolnet has closed, in *.il.us that is
>not in *.chi.il.us?  I asked that about a year ago and was told no.

I am not sure, but I believe the site in st-charles.il.us is still live,
it was still on our records the lat time I looked for it (a few months ago
to prove that it was there :) however it might have closed down, or moved
into chi.il.us while I wasn't looking.
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  rrezaian@clout.chi.il.us	|  rrezaian@zed.chi.il.us
Xref: sparky chi.general:1767 chi.wanted:1500
From: wdp@gagme.chi.il.us (Bill Pfeiffer)
Newsgroups: chi.general,chi.wanted,chi.misc
Subject: ** SEEKING TAPE OF WXRT MELISSA ETHRIDGE CONCERT ***
Date: 17 Dec 92 08:22:52 GMT
Distribution: chi
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Originator: wdp@gagme


Does anyone have a decent quality recording (cassette or???) of the
Melissa Ethridge (sp) concert for kids which aired on WXRT -FM on
Tuesday (Dec 15, 92) evening?

I planned to tape it, but got caught in the daily grind and
could not get to my home machine, so I listened to it on the car radio.

I would really like to have a cassette of this show, can anyone help?

Please e-mail me if you can.  I will, of course, supply or reimburse for tape
cost, and will go to pick it up, or pay for postage.

Thanks
Newsgroups: chi.general,misc.misc
From: hammen@vpnet.chi.il.us (Robert Hammen)
Subject: Re: Illinois to ban radar detectors as of Jan 1??
Organization: VGC Corp. - Minneapolis
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 18:28:39 GMT

For what it's worth, I believe Connecticut repealed their detector ban earlier
this year. They're still illegal in Virginia, D.C., and several Canadian
provinces (like Ontario). Of course, with the new "undetectable" detectors
like the Valentine One, this may not be such a big deal anymore...

Robert
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: mjf@gagme.chi.il.us (Michael J. Frankel)
Subject: Re: chi.personals
Originator: mjf@gagme
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:12:14 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.162902.23267@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>In article <1992Dec13.185714.24932@gagme.chi.il.us> mjf@gagme.chi.il.us (Michael J. Frankel) writes:
>
>>Ken, 
>>
>>I have come to  the conclusion that you are a pompous bore.  Your 
>>posts are, to say the least, tedious.  Most people do not like
>>continuous lecturing.  
>
>Most people got the point the first time 'round.  If the clueless few
>didn't belabour it, continuous lecturing wouldn't be required.

Why waste the energy?


>By the way, thanks for adding an intellectually stimilating comment
>to the thread.
>

No problem :-)



-- 



------------------------
Michael J. Frankel --- mjf@gagme.chi.il.us or fjm@csc3b.depaul.edu

And the rain is brain-colored.
And the thunder sounds like something remembering nothing.

                          -Stan Rice

Newsgroups: chi.general
From: johnd@hopduvel.uucp (Hopduvel)
Subject: Re: Homebrew clubs?
Keywords: brewing
Reply-To: hopduvel!brewmaster@linac.fnal.gov (John)
Organization: Isenbrau Brewery
Distribution: chi
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 02:07:43 GMT

Stephen T Bacon writes:

>I was wondering if anyone knew of any homebrew clubs in the city.  I've
>heard mention of them out in the 'burbs, but never of any in the city.

The homebrew contingent of the Chicago Beer Society meets the first 
thursday night of the month at Goose Island.  I dont make all of them
but its usually a pretty good time and you can join then.  Lots of
interesting people and good beer.  CBS members get a 10% discount at
(at least) two of Chicagos homebrew supply stores (it easily pays
for my membership).
 
John Isenhour                        
renaissance scientist and AHA/HWBTA certified Beer Judge 
home: john@hopduvel.UUCP 
work: isenhour@lambic.fnal.gov 
Xref: sparky chi.general:1768 uiuc.general:1516
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 17 Dec 1992 17:02:25 CST
From: Michael Lanski <U20139@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: chi.general,uic.general,uiuc.general,uic.news.deadbeats
Subject: Deadbeats schedule


              * * * D E A D B E A T   M A I L G R A M * * *

Come on out and catch the new tunes and warm fun.


Thu Dec 17  ABBEY PUB  3420 W. Grace, Chicago (312) 478-4408
            This is a live video shoot for cable TV - join in.
Wed Dec 23  FITZGERALD'S  6618 W. Roosevelt, Berwyn IL (708) 788-2118
            Early Start!  DEADBEATS 9:00-10:30;   Freddy Jones 11-12:30
Sat Dec 26  WRIGLEYSIDE  3537 N. Clark 312-525-5908 DEADBEATS 10:30-12:30
            The jammin' boys of Jaw Potato(e) play 1:00-2:30
Wed Dec 30  BRIXIE'S  9526 W. Ogden, Brookfield IL, (708) 387-0050
            Opener: John Kattke's BROTHER JOHN'S BAND @ 9:30

Hotline: (708) 864-3775
From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steve King)
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: Test
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 18:25:30 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: PShrink Wrap BBS, Lake Zurich IL  +1 708 540 6772

Testing.  Beep.

--
Steven King, Proprietor of the PShrink Wrap BBS        veck@pshrink.chi.il.us
Data Communications for the Psychology Professional    data: +1 708 540 6772
From: awol@syzzle.chi.il.us (Al Oomens)
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: Re: Guess!
Date: 14 Dec 92 03:01:45 GMT
Organization: System Solutions - Wheaton, Il.

This is a .....
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awol@syzzle.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: chi.mail
From: piggy@gargoyle.uchicago.edu (La Monte Yarroll)
Subject: Re: Information posting about the Clout Project(.chi.il.us).
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: chi
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 00:48:12 GMT

In <1992Dec7.161751.23047@sdc.com> kenk@sdc.com (Ken Konecki) writes:

>I dropped said note, oh, about a week ago and all I got in response was a
>letter from Dave Ihnat asking if I had ever worked with him.  Nice of him
>to ask, but it wasn't quite the response I was expecting.  Soooo, could
>one of you kind clout admin folks get in touch with me with information as
>to how to connect to the clout internet node to aid us with our mail
>routing?  Send mail to tellab5!sdc!kenk; the address kenk@sdc.com no
>longer works (and this is the problem I'm trying to address).

What is supposed to happen is this:  The Postmaster of the Month is
supposed to pass your request on to one of the Clout Sysadmins who will
then give you a phone call or an email response (depending on what you
asked for).

I didn't see a posting of last month's Sysadmin meeting notes, so I
don't know who POTM is.

If nobody gets in touch wil you in the next couple of days, you can
call me at work:  +61 02 20 2725 10am to 6pm EST  (that's 15 hours
ahead of Chicago).

Rather than call Australia, you may prefer to try out the new fax
service.  The phone number is in the posting you referred to.

La Monte H. Yarroll	Preferred:	piggy@gargoyle.uchicago.edu
   Work: piggy@mwc.com	Home:		piggy@baqaqi.chi.il.us
			often:		postmaster@clout.chi.il.us
From: electric@meltdown.chi.il.us (Rick Martinez)
Newsgroups: chi.mail
Subject: Interest in Clout.
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:00:17 GMT
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

I'm interested in helping out with the Clout project.  I have a spare machine
here and am willing to add another phone line to run a clout machine.  The only
thing that I'm currently lacking is in hard drive space (the extra
machine only has a 20 meg on it).

If someone from the clout project would like to contact me, reply to this
address (as my normal address - rmartine@harper.UUCP - is down until uunet gets
their check).

I've been wanting to run a bbs w/ newsnet groups for a while.

Rich

|Animals eat animals     |ADDR1: rmartine@harper.UUCP          *preferred*  |
|Creation eats the winner|ADDR2: electric@meltdown.chi.il.us   *preferred*  |
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Newsgroups: chi.mail
From: piggy@gargoyle.uchicago.edu (La Monte Yarroll)
Subject: Re: clout uucp stats
Keywords: weekly summary
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: chi
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 00:44:14 GMT

In <1992Nov30.232849.25248@gagme.chi.il.us> dattier@gagme.chi.il.us (DWT) writes:
>If people neglect to poll clout, how will they receive the reminder?

>[Helmet and armor are in place; hit me with the punch line.]

They'll read it in chi.mail!  Seriously, there's a good reason that
clout carries ONLY mail and not news as well.

If they don't poll their news site (or if they don't get news at all),
then they just might get a phone call from one of Santa's reindeer at
4am Christmas day.  :-)

La Monte H. Yarroll	Preferred:	piggy@gargoyle.uchicago.edu
   Work: piggy@mwc.com	Home:		piggy@baqaqi.chi.il.us
			often:		postmaster@clout.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: chi.mail
Subject: Re: clout uucp stats
From: andyross@infopls.chi.il.us (Andrew Rossmann)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 12:27:45 CST
Distribution: chi
Organization: INFOPLUS support, Wheeling, IL
Keywords: weekly summary

blair@obdient.chi.il.us (pri=-10-Doug Blair) writes:

> Here is the weekly summary of uucp traffic from clout.chi.il.us
> for the week ending 10/17/92:
                      ^^^^^^^^^
  Where did this one pop up from?? :-)

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