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From: Jack.Honeycutt@f52.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Honeycutt)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: (F) pine plants
Date: 16 Nov 92 13:28:44 GMT

Hello Ming!

15 Nov 92, Ming Ouyang writes to (crosspost 1) All:

 MO> I saw a plant called "pine" in a mall petshop. What is its scientific
 MO> name? And requirements? Do I need to say this? It looks like pine
 MO> tree leaves but it lives in water. :-)

In California and other places on the west cost, I have seen a land plant in
the Lycopodium family passed off as a water plant.

The Lycopodium's are in a group called the Club Mosses and some of them are
called "running Pine"  or "pine club moss"

This may be what you are looking at.  I have seen this over and over again and
I don't like it.  None of the Lycopodiums can live under water or have there
feet wet all the time....

I hope this helps

Jack
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From: tvea@cats.ucsc.edu (Tina Victoria Easter)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria,sci.aquaria
Subject: Land Hermit Crabs as Pets
Date: 22 Nov 1992 09:59:35 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Distribution: usa
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I plan to purchase two land hermit crabs as pets soon.  If any of you have land
hermit crabs as pets, I'd like to hear about your experiences with them. 
So far, I have read _Land Hermit Crabs In Nature and as Pets_.  If you can help,
please e-mail me at tvea@cats.ucsc.edu.  I thank you in advance! :)

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From: jdhl@troi.cc.rochester.edu (papa_sm00sh)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: gestation for live bearers
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:38:42 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York



how long do mollies stay pregnant before they give birth? how often
and for what length of time are they fertile?  how often will they
become pregnant?

jason
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From: bruceg@Cadence.COM (Bruce Gustifson)
Subject: Re: Help with infected angelfish
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:25:03 GMT

In article <Bx3HpF.4xL@gdls.CSCTMD.COM> evtushek@gdls.CSCTMD.COM (Bruce Evtushek) writes:
>
>
>This is my first post to this group so please forgive any ignorance.  First of
>all I have a 60g fresh water tank with about with about 8 angelfish (that range
>from the size of a half-dollar to the size of a tennis ball), 3 silver dollars,
>2 plectos, and a black ghost.  For a couple of months one of my large angelfish
>developed a white cloudy eye.  When I asked the local pet store about this they
>said he may have "bumped it" and injured it.  Sometime after one of my silver
>looking pretty healthy.  I e cloudy eyes. They were eating and were 
>looking healthy.  I read in a fish mag that the cloudy eye could be caused by
>a parasite and recommended methlenblu(sp?) among others.  So I added the
>medicine and increased the tempature to about 80-82.  Before I added the 
>medicine the ph was about 7.2 area.  I went away for weekend and when I came
>home my fishes' fins were frayed and my two prize (largest) angels looked 
>almost on their death bed.  The best way to describe it is pale, since their
>black angels, and scally.  When I checked the ph is very low this morning and
>the two black angels refuse to eat while the others feed fine, but their fins
>don't look to healthy either.  I've had these for about a year and I don't want
>to lose them.  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  
>
>
>Thanks
>Bruce
>:


  Well, I have a couple of things that might help in the future
for you (since I am sure you're fish are either recovered or
dead by now, thats the problem with asking for help over the net).
  First, never use medicine without checking every day on progress.
In other words, do not leave for the weekend after medicating your
tank. Better to use the medicine after you get back.This is in part
because:
  Second, Methelyne Blue (and most medicines)can have a negative 
effect on the water chemistry of your tank by killing off the 
boilogical activity in it. This can cause ammonia/nitrite etc
to build up faster than you'd believe unless you measured it
yourself. And for a freshwater fish, angels are pretty sensitive
to these changes.
  I'm not terribly sure why the pH changed so rapidly in your
tank, as you were away and couldn't have been overfeeding them
then.  Ussually when pH goes down like that it indicates too
much dirt in the tank, and a good cleaning is in order.
  In closing, I hate to use medicines in my tanks, and absolutely
avoid it whenever possible. Of course, I have a 10g I can use
for a hospital tank if necessary. They really screw with the
chemistry, and can have some VERY bad consequences. But if it
has to be done, test for ammonia/nitrite/nitrate every other
day at the least, keep a close eye on the pH, follow the direct-
ions to the letter, and be prepared to do water changes frequently.
I hape your fish survived.
				-Bruce-

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From: jessop@ljohub.enet.dec.com (Class Dinosauria)
Subject: Re: cichlids
Reply-To: jessop@ljohub.enet.dec.com (Class Dinosauria)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:51:46 GMT



I wouldn't mix any central and south american cichlids with africans...
except for the TILAPIA genus...

I would not mix green terrors and red devils with anything, unless the tank
is VERY large.  Both fish grow very territorial and pugnacious.  

Since I'm not a keeper of africans, I don't know what types of "cleaning"
fish are available... but don't some lake cichlids graze on algae?

Mike
From: jdhl@troi.cc.rochester.edu (papa_sm00sh)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: breeding, egg layers
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:37:41 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York




will egg layers breed in my tank?  that's the nutshell question...

the specifics... a 30 gal, freshwater, mostly small fish... (mollies,
a couple guarmies, etc.)... i have spawning grass and whatnot also...

jason
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From: tom@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Tom McCain)
Subject: (M) Lava rock and turbo (algae) snails
Organization: Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:06:48 GMT


Does anyone have lava rock in a marine tank?  And if so do algae
snails keep it clean?  I am getting ready to convert a tank to a
marine tank and wanted to put lots of lava rock in it.  However, I
started to think that maybe lava rock is to sharp and jagged for algae
snails to crawl over.  Any opinions on this?  Thanks.

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From: thuan@garnet.berkeley.edu (Thuan Nguyen)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
Subject: Bay Area Killifish Association Party & Fish Auction
Followup-To: alt.aquaria
Date: 20 Nov 1992 01:09:07 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: ba
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The following announcement is being posted for Dale Weber, 
current club president of the Bay Area Killifish Association.
I don't know the details of the talks or auction.

--Thuan

===============================================================

        BAY AREA KILLIFISH ASSOCIATION (BAKA)
		CHRISTMAS PARTY

FISH SALE         PROGRAMS      AWARDS  AUCTION FUND RAISER

December 19th Roundtable Pizza 3 p.m. - 8 p.m. 50-50 fish sale.

3:00            Registration-Preview
3:30            Program- General Killifish
4:00            Sale begins-Round #1
4:30            Program- Dr. Brian Watters - Nothobranchius Collecting,
                         Care, and Maintenance
5:00            Sale begins Round #2
6:00            Program- Dr. Brian Watters - Lampeyes
                Collecting - Care - Maintenance
6:30            Final Sale
7:00            AUCTION- 25 pairs "the Rarest of the Rare"
8:00            ADJOURN

                            -Rules-
Sellers-
        1. All fishes OFFERED AS PAIRS, must clearly sexable.
        2. All pairs of fish must be individually bagged.
        3. Rebagging charge $2.00 per pair.
        4. Seller identification required on each bag.
        5. Seller to supply list of fishes offered
        6. Sale proceeds, 50% seller 50% BAKA.
        7. Seller can remove fish after Second round and pay $2.00
                per pair removed; after third round Seller pay $1.00
                per pair for fishes not sold.
        9. BAKA reserves the right to refuse any fish, diseased,
                aged, deformed.
        10. Seller paid by check

Buyers-
        1. Order determined by draw.
        2. First trip thru purchases limited to two items.
        3. Second trip thru you are allowed unlimited purchases.
        4. Third trip all remaining fishes
                50% discount and no limitto purchases
        5. Pay as you go


SPEAKER:  Dr. Brian Watters is a Professor of Geology at the
University of Regina, Canada. Dr. Watters is a world-wide
traveler, killifish collector, researcher and lecturer. He
also has the distinction of being a past Chairman of the
AKA, a warm personal individual, and one of the most active
personalities in the hobby today.

BAKA will present slides of a critical habitat that the
organization is trying to save from development in Brazil.
These slides will be shown at 7:30 p.m.
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From: wood-smithc@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Chrissi Wood-Smith)
Subject: Re: (ALL)Aquarium Fish Magazine
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:05:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.004533.11792@bsu-ucs> 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:
>From: 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
>Subject: (ALL)Aquarium Fish Magazine
>Date: 12 Nov 92 05:45:33 GMT

>I seem to remember seeing some sort of deal Aquarium Fish Magazine offered to
>the readers on the 'net for a two-year subscription for the price of one year. 
>Can someone tell me where I saw this so I can look through it again?  Or just
>let me kno what I have to do to take advantage of the deal?  I love AFM!

>                                -Matt
Sounds great, but can someone tell me the number to call Aquarium Fish 
Magazine on? And, I've never read the magazine, but I  have been looking for 
a good one.  Does it have freshwater fish info, or is just marine fish? I 
only keep freshwater but would like some magazine that covers Discus and the 
like.
From: jessop@ljohub.enet.dec.com (Class Dinosauria)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Fish as pets...
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:43:47 GMT
Reply-To: jessop@ljohub.enet.dec.com (Class Dinosauria)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation



	I just thoguth I'd share this...  It always amazes me at how
	intelligent and trusting fish can become (especially when they
	are hungry ;)...

	I've been keeping fish (various phases/types) since I was 11 years
	old (I'm 27 now).

	People never believe me when I say that fish make great pets...

	Just the other day I was trying to reprime a filter siphon
	when my sunfish (a young bluegill that I caught with hook and worm,
	actually about 20 worms!  He kept stripping my hook!) and oscar
	came whipping up to where my hands were just above the surfacve of the 
	water.  They stayed there watching, and when I went to dip the tube
	into the water, they wouldn't move!!  I tried to shoo them, then I
	lifted the tube out of the water and the sunfish jumped for my fingers!
	Well, i put my hands back in the water to get the siphon going and my
	oscar swam over and bit the tip of one of my fingers!  It sounds like
	I never feed them, but I feed them 3 times daily and supplement with
	at least 80 goldfish a week!!! (There are other heavy eaters in the
	tank). 

	The funny thing is when I have guests over... the fish all kind of
	shy away from the front and top of the tank.  They definitely know
	me from others.

	Another story that happened awhile ago was with my favorite oscar
	(who died some years ago .. choked on a tankmate that was just
	too large to eat) who was VERY intelligent.  Besides having him
	trained to do a few tricks (seriously), he knew me very well.  He
	would let me pet him with my hands...  but if my brother or father
	stuck there hands in (this is true) he would attack them... not for
	food, but like a cichlid challenging another cichlid infringing on
	his territory...

	Anyway... I just thought I'd share that...

	Mike
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From: russell@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (David Russell)
Subject: Mouthbreeders and UGF ? Continued
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:04:34 GMT

   Do to a recent response I will clarify things a bit.

>> I have turned off the UGF but is the plate going to cause any problems. 
>          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> How in the heck is it that people can manage to get fish to the point of
> spawing and then kill the biofilter on them?!? Do you have the vaguest
> [.....remainder of the total uncalled for flame deleted......]

The UGF on the side of the tank with the spawnning pit was turned off.
(it loses its usefullness when uncovered, right?) The UGF on the other
side of the tank is still opperating and a Fluvo 403 is also running, so
proper filtration is still being maintained. etc....

So, now how about some constructive advice on how to handle situations
like this, short of removing the UGF.

Thanks,
David

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From: lee@ace.npac.syr.edu (Lee C. Brink)
Subject: Re: Lobster Molting
In-reply-to: bjkramer@remus.rutgers.edu's message of 13 Nov 92 14:06:49 GMT
Organization: Northeast Parallel Architectures Center - Syracuse, NY
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 09:14:32 EST

>>>>> On 13 Nov 92 14:06:49 GMT, bjkramer@remus.rutgers.edu (Brian Kramer) said:


Brian> When a crayfish (lobster) molts does it shed it's claws?


When A crayfish molts, it sheds its entire skeleton, and comes out with a new
one which is soft and hardens in several hours.  It does not lose its 
claws, and will have new ones after the molt if it has lost any.  Note
two things after the molt:

	1) A crayfish is very vulnerable from the time it 
		starts molting until several hours after.  During
		this time, it should have places to hide, or
		it will become food to whatever else is in the tank.

	2) Leave the skeleton in the tank.  The crayfish needs the
		calcium from its old skeleton and will eat it.

    Lee

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From: 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
Subject: Getting a puffer?
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:31:05 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

I would really like to get a spotted puffer while a couple of the local shops
are carrying them.  I am wonder would a 5 gal tank be appropriate for this
single fish?  Also, what would the minimum filtration/tank-appropriations
(gravel, sand, caves, plants, whatever..) be>??

Also, is there any significant difference between getting a spotted or figure-8
or other 'freshwater' puffer?  I mean as far as adult size, feeding?

				-Matt

P.S.  I know they are all brackish-water.   :)
From: Steve.Kilbey%bbs@jptcs.com (Steve Kilbey)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: cichlids
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:47:36 GMT
Reply-To: Steve.Kilbey%bbs@jptcs.com (Steve Kilbey)
X-Posting-Software: UniBoard 1.10a S/N 202921

I have Ice blue Zebras and some other assorted cichlids. I wanted to get
more fish. Please tell me if these can interminlge with these African's:
1) Green terrors
2) Red Devils
3) Pleceo (to clean the algae)
If the Pleco cannot mix, what fish can I get to get rid of the algae. I
don't want to use the drops.
From: wells@cs.swarthmore.edu (Daniel Wells)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: [M] What does a Miniatus Grouper eat?
Date: 17 Nov 92 04:45:14 GMT
Organization: Swarthmore College

My Miniatus used to eat Tetra's freeze dried brine shrimp. Now he seems to
have stopped eating completely with no other signs of illness. Nitrate level
used to be high, but that's recently been fixed by a series of small water 
changes (started after the grouper stopped eating). If anybody has any 
suggestions for a food that might attract this guy or as to what might
be wrong (no ammonia or nitrite, pH 8, 78-80 degrees), please e-mail me or
post if you feel it's of general interest.


				Thanks,

				Dan (wells@cs.swarthmore.edu)
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From: pprior@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul A Prior)
Subject: (M) Coral Cats - Have you seen them?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 21:47:25 GMT

My local fish store just got in a shipment of "coral cats" (about 30)
that are schooling fish (very tight school).  they are very unique fish
and I had them hold 10 for me, but I've never seen them before and 
haven't been able to find any info on them.  Can anyone provide 
any?  One store employee said that they grow very fast and end up being
6-8" long.  He also stated that they might eat goodies off my live rock
and from their looks they appear that they might eat anything they can
get their mouths around <G>.

Any help appreciated.

I also had them order me a 6-line wrasse to hopefully eat some of the 
"ice-cream cone" snails that I've been pulling out by hand.

Cheers,
Paul

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From: drallen@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Derek R Allen)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: (M) Bristle worms, anybody?
Date: 18 Nov 1992 21:32:57 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.30
Originator: drallen@convex.csd.uwm.edu

Regrettably, when I saw articles concerning bristle worms on the net over
the past couple months I thought to myself, "yecchh, glad I don't have
those gruesome things in my tank."  Well, yesterday, while cleaning my
55gal's coral substrate I noticed some peculiar things getting sucked up
by the Python cleaning tool.  Closer inspection revealed them to be somewhat
like centipedes.  There were clearly "bristles" or hairlike spines all over
their bodies.  The small ones (0.25") looked more like grubs.  The longer
ones (0.50") were more obviously worm-like.  So my question: would someone
please forward some info on these if they are in fact bristleworms?  My trigger
occassionally strikes at the coral substrate...I wonder if he sees these
and eats them???  Can I get rid of them? Are they beneficial -- I mean,
they must eat something and if they consume bitesize pieces of stuff in the
coral substrate they must do some good, right?  All responses appreciated.
Thanks in advance!!  BTW: I was at first somewhat skeptical re putting (M) or
(F) in the topic line but now am a convert.  I wish everyone would do this!!!!



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From: mnc1@quads.uchicago.edu (Mr. Happy Carlson)
Subject: [F] Driftwood in an aquarium?
Reply-To: mnc1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:09:34 GMT

Well, I did it. I went out and bought that 55 gallon tank I've been
dreaming about. No I want to decorate it. I've got a few plants and
I've got some Java moss on order. The guy in the aquarium store said
Java moss does best on a piece of wood, rather than straight on the
gravel. So I'm going to go find a piece of dried out wood and
waterlog it and put it in my tank. Are there any chemistry type
things to worry about when doing this? I certainly don't
want some piece of rotten wood making my aquarium uninhabitable. Moderate
pH changes shouldn't be a problem for the fish I have in mind. Any
and all advice would be greatly appreciated.

Matt Carlson  (mnc1@quads.uchicago.edu)
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From: lawrence@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Lawrence H. Smith,E20 Clark,56064,2726746)
Subject: Re: Mouthbreeders and UGF ? Continued
Originator: lawrence@msc2.msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:38:54 GMT

From article <1992Nov24.010434.24958@news.clarkson.edu>, by russell@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (David Russell):
> [.....remainder of the total uncalled for flame deleted......]
I'd describe that differently...

Having spent several years perusing alt.aquaria and maintaining several
tanks of fish, I can report that an all-too-common alt.aquaria event is
"My fish spawned, so I turned off the UGF. What to do with little fish?"
In most cases the fish mostly die, as might be expected.

This sounded like chapter 379 of that story. I don't know why so many people
react to fish spawning by killing the filter, but they do. I'm happy to hear
that this is not the case for you.

> The UGF on the side of the tank with the spawnning pit was turned off.
> (it loses its usefullness when uncovered, right?)

While a majority of the water will be going through the open slots, leaving
the UGF on will maintain some circulation through the remaining gravel if it
is not clogged; This will help prevent it from dying off.

I'd still recommend pulling the gravel on the turned off side,
though that will be less of a problem with other filtration functioning.

> So, now how about some constructive advice on how to handle situations
> like this, short of removing the UGF.

I'd recommend putting a rock in; A slate shingle would be perfect.

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