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From: mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu (Mike S.)
Subject: Re: LD rentals in St. Louis area?
Keywords: laserdiscs, rentals, stores, st louis
Organization: BITS, St. Louis, MO
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 20:06:45 GMT

>     My brother attends law school in St. Louis.  I just got a laserdisc
>     player for him.  Now, he'd like to know of any good places to rent from,
>     especially around the University of Washington area.

Well, it's not around Wash U., but the Blockbusters near my
house (Manchester Rd, in Ellisville) _used_ to rent laserdiscs..
They took them out about a year ago.  I asked them about it
(though I didn't/don't have a laserdisc player), and they said
demand was low, and they were moving them to another location.

Maybe someday they will bring them back so I can justify
a laserdisc player.

(Anyone know of any other places in St.L which rent discs?)

Mike
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From: denton@ssd.comm.mot.com (Perry Denton)
Subject: Re: LBX Forbidden Planet on TNT
Organization: Motorola LMPS
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:25:53 GMT
Keywords: n

In article <1992Sep11.052630.5099@uhura.neoucom.edu> wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce) writes:
>Tonight (9-11 wee am) TNT was broadcasting FORBIDDEN PLANET and 
>
>++IT WAS LETTERBOXED++    The ratio was 2.22:1 exactly the same as
>my Criterion laserdisc of this.
>
>I've seen LBX films on AMC, but this is the first time I've seen one
>on TNT.
>

TNT has shown several letterboxed movies, two of which I remember:
Love Me or Leave Me (James Cagney, Doris Day)
Seven Brides for Seven Brothers

AMC is showing _Pillow Talk_ letterboxed this month along with the
continual showings of _Spartacus_.

Also, Encore ($1.50 a month on my cable system) is showing the widescreen
restored _Lawrence of Arabia_.

There may be others, but I am glad that my cable guide does notate
letterboxed movies.

Perry
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Motorola, Inc.
Schaumburg, Illinois
Internet: denton@ssd.comm.mot.com       Phone: (708) 576-4479
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Subject: Re: Newly-announced LDs (Warner Bros. Cartoons!  At Last!)
From: claudius@zeus.calpoly.edu (King_Claudius (Chris Knight))
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:51:34 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Keywords: LDs

moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer) says:
>    Winner by a Hare (14 Bugs Bunny cartoons)
>    Duck Victory (14 Daffy Duck, including DUCK DODGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
>    Looney Tunes After Dark (scary ones)
>    Ham on Wry (14 Porky Pig cartoons)
>    Looney Tunes Assorted Nuts (16 misc. cartoons)
>    Looney Tunes Curtain Calls (show biz related cartoons)

Any of these contain "What's Opera Doc?"

De-rool de-rool.
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---King Claudius---                                   claudius@zeus.calpoly.edu
From: WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Alt.cult-movies? (was Re: Blade Runner Director's Cut)
Date: 15 Sep 92 23:10:38 GMT
 <67795@hydra.gatech.EDU> <1992Sep8.044117.24004@cs.uow.edu.au>
 <BOOT.92Sep15123201@donald.osf.org>
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Am I reading a.c-m or what?  What gives with all this Blade Runner stuff?  I
still think it's a fatally flawed film (alliterative, no?) with a cast of
unlikable main characters crawling through a muddled script.  Nice art
direction but one can hardly base an entire film on good sets.

Brian Waugh                       |    "What's for dinner?"
WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU    |        Jack Ryan
From: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Is the LBX Excalibur OK?
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:50:44 GMT
Reply-To: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)
Distribution: usa

jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke) writes:

>In article <wallich.715309947@pepper>, wallich@iti.org (Kenneth Wallich) writes:
>> 
>> been boring (when I say boring, I mean mostly center channel
>> information

>I have a plain jane Dolby Surround system (not pro logic).  But, if it is all
>center channel sound, aren't you better off not using the center speaker?
>That way all the sound goes to the higher quality (one would hope!) main
>speakers and it should sound better.

Well, it is in dolby surround, so when the music swells, that
information comes through the stereo speakers.  There are even
occasional bits of information in the surround channel, but not what
I've come to expect, even from older films that were recorded with
dolby surround.  You'd expect, for instance, that in the battle scenes
in the beginning, and the wild castle parties, that there would be
music and noise, and clashing of steel all around you.  Alas, most of
it comes from the center.

My complaint wasn't that I couldn't *alter* things to make it sound
more interesting, but that the use of sound in the film wasn't any
different from the old pan&scan version.  Often, I've found that the
new, updated, remastered and letterboxed versions include vastly
better soundtracks then the old pressings.  Just wanted folks to know
that Excalibur wasn't one of those releases.

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From: jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke)
Subject: Re: Holy Grail on Criterion?
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 18:09:08 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.184005.1299@moci.uucp>, @moci.uucp writes:
> 
> 
>    A friend of mine (who is gullible to hearsay) said that Criterion was
> planning a version of Monty Python's 'Holy Grail' for December release.
> Does anyone else know if this is true, or am I in the dark or gullible
> myself?
> 
> Kai Bidstrup 
> ICOM Inc.
> kai@moci!uwm.edu
> 

I called Criterion several months ago and they told me that this was true.
I forget when they said it would be released, though.  October comes to
mind, but I'm not sure.  At any rate, it was definitely on the slate at
least at one time and with demand for a Criterion version of this movie
I can't imagine Voyager dropping it.

Steve
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Pre-order Special Ed. Alien?
Date: 15 Sep 92 12:22:18
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: tfs@ecl.psu.edu's message of 15 Sep 92 10:33:42 EDT

>>>>> On 15 Sep 92 10:33:42 EDT, tfs@ecl.psu.edu said:

tfs> Is it possible to place a pre-order for the Special Edition LD of
tfs> Alien to be release in early October?  If so, where?  (Please
tfs> include a phone number if possible.)

I have had it on order for a year :) Get it from Sight & Sound, and
you will also get it for 15% off. I don't have the phone number on me,
but can post a follow up when I get home....

--
                        Scott Streeter
                        ss@wpi.wpi.edu
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From: jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke)
Subject: Re: LBX Forbidden Planet on TNT
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 20:35:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.161024.9167@bilver.uucp>, bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) writes:
> 
> AMC and TNT are the only ones I have noticed doing this so far.
> 

What I find annoying is that none of the PBS stations around me broadcast
films (when the do) in letterbox.  Admittedly they mainly show older films
from the pre-widescreen era, so obviously those don't need it, but on occasion
they show more recent films and although they are uncut and uninterupted,
they are pan & scan only.  You'd think PBS stations would care.

Steve
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From: mburton@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael E Burton)
Subject: Surround Audio on L.A. Story
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 06:46:47 GMT

   I recently rented the laser disk of "L.A. Story."  The disk sleeve
indicated that the disk included "Dolby Surround" stereo.  The
soundtrack was recorded in stereo, but it definitely was not
"Surround."

   Is this a known problem?  If so, is it possible to buy a version of
the disk with genuine "Dolby Surround" audio?  Is it possible that the
disk sleeve was mislabeled, and that the film wasn't recorded with
surround encoding?

   One additional data bit: my laser player supports only the analog
audio tracks.  This ought not to be a factor, since I get excellent
surround sound from the analog tracks of other disks, but I thought I
should mention it...

Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
From: jhc819@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (chung jason ho yong)
Subject: LD rentals in St. Louis area?
Summary: Any good places?  Any places?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 03:59:56 GMT
Keywords: laserdiscs, rentals, stores, st louis

     My brother attends law school in St. Louis.  I just got a laserdisc
     player for him.  Now, he'd like to know of any good places to rent from,
     especially around the University of Washington area.

     Thanks in advance,
     Jason

     e-mail jhc819@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

Newsgroups: rec.video.releases,rec.arts.movies
From: trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Tim Russell)
Subject: Re: Blade Runner Director's Cut
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 14:21:49 GMT

wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce) writes:

>BTW this theatre was in Akron, Ohio.  If they're sending those posters
>out to the heartland, it must be real :-).

    "U" magazine (a monthly mag that many university student papers stick
in with their papers) also has a full-page ad for the director's cut
version, but again, with no release date, just "coming soon".

--
    Tim Russell                 Omaha, NE              trussell@unomaha.edu
One of the richest men in the world made his billions selling a toy "operating
system" that is more accurately described as a glorified bootstrap loader.
                                                  -- Phil Karn
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan)
Subject: Basic Instinct LD - When?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:13:41 GMT

The new Video has a full page ad showing a laserdisc of Basic Instinct.
Anyone know when the actual release is scheduled?
From: rwittick@ibm.cl.msu.edu (Bob Wittick)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Basic Instinct LD - When?
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:27:02 GMT
Followup-To: rec.video.releases
Organization: Michigan State University

In article <BuBE6u.6v6@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan) wrote:
> 
> The new Video has a full page ad showing a laserdisc of Basic Instinct.
> Anyone know when the actual release is scheduled?

According to the Laser Craze ad in the September issue of LDN,
the R-rated LBX and non-LBX versions are due on October 14 .  A Special
Edition LBX version with extras, rated NC-17, is due on November 19.
Laser Craze is offering the R versions for $33,96 if ordered by Sept.
30, and the NC-17 version for $55.96 (list prices are $39.95
and $69.95 respectively).

               Bob Wittick
               Computer Laboratory
               Michigan State University
From: jpb@calmasd.Prime.COM (Jan Bielawski)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Blade Runner Director's Cut
Date: 10 Sep 92 02:04:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computervision, San Diego, CA


<A couple of years ago, a small theatre here in Westwood, California
<screened the "Director's Cut" of Blade Runner, and I was fortunate
<enough to get the time to go see it. They're showing it again next
<week, also.

	This needs some clarification.  What was shown then (and also
earlier this year at the Nuart on Santa Monica) was not director's cut but
an early "demo" version prepared for test audiences before the movie
opened.  As such, it had not yet suffered from "beautification" efforts 
the producers inflicted on it: extra voiceovers, a dumb opening scrolling 
title, etc.  It was also an obviously unfinished product: grainy print, 
loud, incomplete music and so on.

	When Warner saw how much money Nuart has made they decided
to let Ridley Scott prepare a true director's cut, the one that would
evolve from the "demo" had the studio not intervened.  This is what
we are going to see this weekend (it has been shown in a San Diego
preview last week and I miraculously managed to miss it).  Judging
from the rumor mill it will differ from the Nuart/Westwood version
slightly (e.g. Vangelis has completed the music, does it mean we'll 
finally get the *real* soundtrack CD?)

	Jan Bielawski
	Computervision, San Diego
	jpb@calmasd.prime.com
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From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Subject: Re: GHOSTBUSTERS on laserdisc: Criterion & RCA/Columbia differences?
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1992 21:01:23 GMT

In article <Bu2GCD.GMG@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jhc819@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (chung jason ho yong) writes:
>     I just noted one thing though.  It isn't just the Laser Video File
>     that states the Criterion as 98 minutes.  On the back of the Criterion
>     disc it mentions it
>     it's  98 minutes as well.

I hauled out my Criterion copy.  Since it is the CAV one and doesn't
have Table Of Contents (TOC) I had to do the calculations by hand.
I noted the # of frames in the movie part (not supplements) on each
side.  Total = 151,447 frames. Since it has correct 3/2 pulldown the
disc is only displaying the count for 24 frames per second (in still
mode) as in a movie film. So dividing by 24 and by 60 I got:

                       105.17 minutes

That's the same as LVF lists for both RCAs ...  but
Maltin lists it at 107m.  Something strange is going on.

BTW if you love this film, consider the Criterion CAV.  It
has quite a lot in the supplements, including deleted scenes,
storyboards, a little on how they did the special effects, 
trailer, Making of, Insider notes, and the complete screenplay.


-- 
                 "So many windows, So little time"

Bill Cruce, N.E. Ohio Univ. Coll. of Medicine, Box 95, Rootstown, OH 44272
VOICE: 216-325-2511,  FAX: 216-325-0522,  INTERNET: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
From: @moci.uucp
Subject: Holy Grail on Criterion?
Organization: ICOM, Inc., West Allis, WI
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 18:40:05 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

   A friend of mine (who is gullible to hearsay) said that Criterion was
planning a version of Monty Python's 'Holy Grail' for December release.
Does anyone else know if this is true, or am I in the dark or gullible
myself?

Kai Bidstrup 
ICOM Inc.
kai@moci!uwm.edu

Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
From: dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge)
Subject: Re: LBX Forbidden Planet on TNT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 07:42:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.203500.4416@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov> jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke) writes:
>In article <1992Sep12.161024.9167@bilver.uucp>, bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) writes:
>> 
>> AMC and TNT are the only ones I have noticed doing this so far.

I seem to recall seeing several letterboxed (and subtitled) films on "Bravo!"
when I was on vacation, but we don't get that around here so I don't know
how often this occurs.

>What I find annoying is that none of the PBS stations around me broadcast
>films (when the do) in letterbox.

The only exception I can think of is when WETA 26 broadcast 2001 in
letterbox many months (maybe a year) ago.

                                                -Dave Dodge@wam.umd.edu
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From: chrisp@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Chris Pelkie)
Subject: Re: "director's" cuts?
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:06:24 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.120755.13948@nntp.hut.fi>, pejulaju@sandman.cs.hut.fi (Pentti Lajunen) writes:
|> Has anyone releasing Boxed Special Limited Letterboxed Collector's Editions
|> with extra footage restored and behind the scene material + screenplays,
|> interviews etc in CAV of Ernest-series (Ernest Goes Camp, - Saves Christmas
|> and  - Goes Jail)??? Criterion? Anyone?
|> 
|> 					      Tyrell Corp. File Management (c)
|> 
|> Serial number: 	  151169-THX1138 Unit:          Pentti Juhani Lajunen
|> Incept date:	  15/11/1969     Incept place:  Rovaniemi/Finland/Earth
|> Physical level:	  B	         Mental level:  unknown
|> Termination date: unknown        CPU made in Helsinki University of Technology
|> Directive: 	  Collect property as much as possible before termination.
|>  - end of file -

No, but I heard a rumor that Ted Turner is decolorizing the recently found
complete set of Lost Episodes...
But they'll only be available in SECAM.
(;-)
-- 
Chris Pelkie
Scientific Visualization Producer
Cornell Theory Center
Ithaca, NY 14853-3801
chrisp@tc.cornell.edu
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From: boot@donald.osf.org (Bruce Bauman)
Subject: Re: Blade Runner Director's Cut
Reply-To: boot@osf.org
Organization: Open Software Foundation
	<1992Sep8.044117.24004@cs.uow.edu.au>
Date: 15 Sep 92 12:32:01

I'm paraphrasing here, but there is a short article in this month's
issue of Details magazine about 'Blade Runner', including interviews
with many people involved in the film. Supposedly Ridley Scott sent
each scene in the movie to Vangelis to score, and then kept editing
the scene, which screwed up the synchronization of the film with the
soundtrack.

Eventually, Vangelis got so pissed off that he blocked the release of
the soundtrack. Maybe he's calmed down after ten years?

-- Bruce
--
Bruce Bauman	email: boot@osf.org		phone: 617-621-7205
Open Software Foundation, 11 Cambridge Center, Cambridge, MA, 02142
From: bov@x.co.uk (Andy Bovingdon)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Special edition LD's
Date: 8 Sep 92 09:13:57 GMT
Distribution: rec.video.releases
Organization: IXI Ltd.


I am new to LD so my collection is small (2). Also being in the UK doesnt
help, my player plays NTSC and there are a few reasonable supplies. But
I never know whether the film I want is only avaliable in pan and scan or
whether a widescreen edition or better an extended special edition exists.
My question is can anyone give me some idea of which films are in more than 
one format. ie I know Aliens is in widescreen and special edition widescreen
but how many other films are like this. I don't want to end up getting the
non leterbox non special edition version if one exists as well.

-Bov!

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From: lch3e@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Lauren C. Howard)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: WEST SIDE STORY ?
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:12:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Virginia
Originator: lch3e@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU


   Has anyone seen both the Criterion and MGM lbx versions of
 West Side Story?  I'd like to know how they compare, if they're
close in quality, color, length, ...

     Please respond e-mail; I'm rarely up here.  Thanx!

     lch3e@virginia.edu
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From: lthompsn@polari.online.com
Subject: Re: Why is Terminator 1 mono?
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix (206) 328-4944
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:18:42 GMT

In article <trussell.715755990@cwis> trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Tim Russell) writes:
>   Can someone in the know please explain to me why the *hell* Terminator
>1 was released on LD in *mono* only?  I love having it on LD, but IMHO
>there's no excuse for mastering it in mono.
>
>					Thanks,
>
>--
>    Tim Russell                 Omaha, NE              trussell@unomaha.edu
>One of the richest men in the world made his billions selling a toy "operating
>system" that is more accurately described as a glorified bootstrap loader.
>                                                  -- Phil Karn

Given the EXTREMELY low budget (6 million) of this film, it's always possible
that it was shot and released in mono.   There was a stereo LD (and possibly
videotape) release, but it was probably re-mixed for video (I hate it when
they do that, it causes a weird effect on the surround channel and it sounds
very tinny).


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From: Mike_Quigley@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Quigley)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Apologies
Date: 10 Sep 92 04:23:16 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Contrary to what I wrote earlier, there will be a release of a "Beauty and the
Beast in Progress" LD. The dealer that gave me the faulty information
apologizes, he got his info from another dealer in Seattle, who was also
misinformed. I hope to get further info about this release by fax tonight and
if there's any additional details, I'll post them tomorrow.
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: paramount no chapters
Date: 11 Sep 92 08:15:46 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

WRC>List of laser discs from PARAMOUNT which have no chapters:

WRC>3 Days of the Condor, Chinatown LBX, Days of Thunder, Dead Again, Desperate
WRC>Hours, Blue Hawaii, Fatal Attraction Director's Series, Godfather 3, Hearts
WRC>Darkness, Hunt for Red October, Monty Python's Life of Brian, The Red Shoes
WRC>Shane, Star Trek 25th Anniversary, Star Trek VI, The Two Jakes LBX,
WRC>Young Sherlock Holmes.

     You can add "The War Of The Worlds," "The Godfather," "The Godfather
     Part II" and "The Conversation" to that list.
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From: lthompsn@polari.online.com
Subject: Re: GHOSTBUSTERS on laserdisc:  Criterion & RCA/Columbia differences?
Keywords: Ghostbusters, laserdisc
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix (206) 328-4944
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 19:15:03 GMT

In article <Bu0yAB.C81@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jhc819@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (chung jason ho yong) writes:
>     Is anyone familiar with both CLV versions of Ghostbusters from
>     Criterion & from RCA/Columbia, other than the price?
>
>     You see, the Laser Video file lists the Criterion editions at 98
>     minutes (both the CLV &^ CAV).  The RCA/Columbia editions are all
>     listed at 105 minutes.  What accounts for this disparity?  Is any
>     part of the movie missing in the Criterion editions or is it just
>     extraneous stuff like trailers or something?
>      
>      The reason why I am asking is I picked up the Criterion edition for
>      only $35 (it was mislabeled, supposed to be $50), but I haven't 
>      opened it yet when I learned of the time disparity.  If I am missing
>      something important, I'm keeping it unopened so I can return it.
>      Otherwised, I'd like to keep it.
>       
>       Thanks for any info.  
>
>       Jason
>       jhc819@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
>

There difference is due to the letterboxing.  Ghostbusters is a very wide-s
screen film.   When it is pan-and-scanned and average of HALF the cast is
generally missing from the frame.   To get around this the P&s versions
BACKWIND the film and run the scene again except concentrated on another
character.    So the RCA columbia is 108 minutes, and the criterion is 98
minutes or so but both are "complete" (although I perfer the letterboxed
edition)


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