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From: jharmer@CLUS1.ULCC.AC.UK (John Harmer)
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Subject: How to see a printer in chooser?
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:31:14 GMT
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Dear All,
I hope someone knows what I've left out. I am configuring ATPS on a NW3.11
server with NW for MAC 3.011 loaded. I am attempting to allow both MAC and
DOS clients to see a printer. The printer is a QMS 410 which can emulate an
apple laserwriter and the part of the set up which works is that DOS clients
can print to it from Word Perfect using the Apple laserwriter printer driver.
From a MAC it is possible to see the queue using the netware DA, however it
does not appear in the chooser as the manuals seem to predict it should. A
consequence of this is that we cannot print to this printer from MAC clients.
The setup is as follows:
in AUTOEXEC.NCF
..
load appletlk net=14405 zone={"mirror"}
bind appletlk esnap net=1-1 zone={"Etalk2"}
..
load afp
load atps
..
load pserver 4401alp

in 4401alp (the print server)
printer 0 is 4401qmsp
alpay's_qms has currently attached server 4401alp
printer 4401qmsp is servicing the queue alpay's_qms
rprinter 4401alp 0  (on dos workstation with printer attached)
capture q=alpay's_qms nb nff nt   (used on DOS client for succesful test)

in ATPS.CFG
-o alpay's_qms -p 4401qmsp -wb -l -z mirror

As I read this I am specifying the spooler name to be alpay's_qms, and since
I have the -wb flag set there is an appletalk spooler but no "backend" so
that the job can be serviced by pserver, and therefore I need to specify the
printer with -p 4401qmsp. The -l is there so that the necessary MAC laser prep
files are placed in each job by the spooler. I only included the -z mirror
since frustration was making me superstitious, as I understand it the default
zone that the queue would be advertised in is the internal appletalk
zone of the server, in this case mirror.
Now I know that if I had specified -wf I would have asked for the effect
which I have but don't want ie would have stopped the queue alpay's_qms
from being advertised to MAC clients, but I didn't use that flag. It seems
so close since I can see the queue in the netware DA, and indeed see jobs
sent from the DOS clients as they pass through. This is my first attempt
with ATPS so I may have missed something obvious
any suggestions gratefully accepted

John Harmer
jharmer@clus1.ulcc.ac.uk
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 11:24:47 EST
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From:         John Coogan <cooganj@SMTP-GW.SPAWAR.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Novell "Who Has Rights"

Can someone help us:

Everytime we run "Who has rights here" (FILER) ,on the
SYS: volume of a particular file server, the PC hangs.  We tried using a
different filer.exe, a new version of filer.exe, but still cannot get "Who
has rights here" to work on this volume.

- JSC  cooganj@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil
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From:         "Khaled Assali x3256 kassali@zis.ziff.com" <KASSALI@ZIS.ZIFF.COM>
Subject: Multiple Username user OS/2 was: Windows NT client....

Erick wrote:
>>>Has anyone seen Novell client software for NT?  I'm VERY
>>>anxious to try it out.  The October Beta of Windows NT
>>>is sooo nice.  If only I could communicate with my Novell
>>>servers, I'd be hooked.
>>
>>
I replied:
>>HOWEVER, _IF_ you want a stable AND a true pre-emptive 32-bit OS take a look
>>at OS/2 2.0.  It will even let you login to a server usig multiple usernames,
>>which makes helping out stranded users extremely easy.  It is here NOW while
 NT
>>is not.  Hope this doesn't cause another OS war on the list.
>>

Erick replied back:
>How do you do multiple logins?  Is there a faq on this?

K. Assali now writes:

I don't know if there is an FAQ, but here is how to do it:
When installing the requester (now called Workstation Kit, and a VERY decent
interface) choose YES to install support for DOS and Windows.
THAT's it.

Once OS/2 boots, open a DOS session.  OS/2 provides IPX for DOS so all you
need to do is invoke the shell (NETX).  You can do this for as many as
DOS windows as you can ( I have tried 2, I know there is a limit -8- ).

--- don't ask me about loading packet drivers, shim modules etc.... ---
------------------ I don't even want to think about it ----------------

You can login with a different name in each DOS session.  Basically what
that does is that NETX will get a different connection number for each session.
OS/2 sessions however cannot do this, but most installations are DOS
clients anyway.

I did not mean to bash NT, as a matter of fact I can't wait till the
REAL NT comes out, and I do not use OS/2 bacuase my job does not require
me to.  OS/2 is a real cool OS that does not have an MS label on it ;-)


Have fun

K. Assali
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From:         Henderson Hood <HOOD@RS.RIR.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      using NFS as a printgateway

Is there any one in net land that is using Netware's NFS to print
from a unix box to a novell printer?

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From: ADP57@MSU.BITNET (Stephen.Scouten)
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Subject: NW 2.2 w/PS2 80 Duplexed Drives
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:35:00 GMT
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Has anyone installed Netware 2.2 on an IBM PS/2 Model 80 using duplexed IBM
SCSI cards and drives?  I have configured Model 80s with duplexed Storage
Dimension drives. I thought I remember reading that IBM SCSI drives were not
supported in a duplex configuration, but that Novell was working on it. Is the
problem solved and what might be the solution.

Thanks,

Stephen Scouten
Systems Apologist, Michigan State University
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 13:31:14 +0000
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From:         "Kevin F. Speichts" <kspeicht@KILCOM1.UCIS.DAL.CA>
Subject:      Adaptec 1740 driving disks and an exabyte

        What I would suggest is that you contact Adaptec directly.  They may
be able to supply you with a firmware update for your card.
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:14:22 EDT
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From:         SIAHOS@GRPATVX1.BITNET
Subject:      HELP CHARON ERROR 0X5 DURING MAP ROOT

  I'm wondering if someone can help me with this :

  I tried to install Charon 4.0 on our server (running Novell v2.15c).
  I followed the instructions ,creating a group Charon, a printserver
  Charon and a user Charon....etc. When i try to login as user Charon
  the following messages appear on the screen :

  "Loader version 2.0.
   Logging into server as Print_server Charon.
   Logged in ok.
   Calling Get Disk.
   Get Disk returned F.
   User CHARON, Password (), Drive F=Path sys:users\yk_staff\charon
   Error 0x5 during map root.


   Network Error : bad directory handle during OPEN A FILE
   FILE IS F:\USERS\YK_STAFF\CHARON\CHARON.BAT."
   The last message appears and reappears till i reboot the P.C. (diskless)

   P.S. The login script of the Charon user needs the following command
        according to the manual: "exit charon.bat".
        And Charon.bat includes the following two commands :
         1) loader charon: sys:users\yk_staff\charon
         2) ycharon %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6.





   Can anyone tell me what i did wrong?
   Please reply to Pcmgr@grpatvx1 and i 'll send the correct answer
   to your list.



                                      Thanks in advance for any information.
                                             Siahos Yannis.
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 10:18:47 CST
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From:         Chuck Black <chuckb@REDSTONE-EMH2.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Re: IP tunneling & network timeout

We also have the 'Abort connection' problem over our campus
campus area network (we have multiple cisco's and proteons)
when that system is not accessed for a fairly short period
of time.

Also, the problem running rconsole across the CAN seems to
be that the proteons simply cannot handle the (encapsulated?)
SPX packets and therefore I get SPXEstablish Connection Timeout
error messages, or at least that the concensious of the readers
of this forum.

Anyone from Proteon care to comment?

Thanks,

Chuck
Internet:  chuckb@redstone
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 10:11:15 EDT
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From:         Brad Clements <BKC@DRACO.ERC.CLARKSON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Charon 4.0 LPR/LPD Queue Naming

> I've been having trouble setting up the latest version of the gateway product.
> It logs into our novell server fine, and recognizes the incoming queue.
> However, it does not seem to be getting spooled to by our UNIX host.  First
> question:  does it matter if the specified queue names are different?  (eg.
> eschp on UNIX host, and ecs1hp on Netware host-  I specified them as
>
>         incoming                "ecs1hp"
>                 name            "ecshp"
>
> )  Second question:  on verision 2.0 of the gateway, it could not accept
> numerical characters in the incomming (UNIX) queue names;  does this hold
> true for this newer version?

Charon 4.0 can accept ANY name format.

>
> I 'ping'ed the gateway was running, with the name, and it responded.  Also,
> I have managed to use the rconsole facility as well.  It just won't spool
> a UNIX job to the Netware queue.
>
> Can anyone PLEASE help me?  Thanks.


Enable the lpd debug screen and report what is displayed there when
a job comes in from your Unix system. Do you see anything there or
on the Charon System Message Screen? Probably your Unix system isn't
configured properly..


|Brad Clements, CCP        bkc@draco.erc.clarkson.edu      (315)268-2292
|Sr. Network Engineer      Clarkson University             Potsdam, NY USA
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 07:41:01 CST
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From:         Ron Neely <SURGRON@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Caution when buying Adaptec...

>> Date:          Wed, 4 Nov 1992 13:16:49 CST
>> From:          Ron Neely <SURGRON@MIZZOU1>

>(lots of stuff deleted . . .)

>> I just got off the phone with a tech support person named Michael Arreano at
>> Adaptec.  He informed me that Adaptec has just developed a firmware patch to
>> address this problem.  Apparently, LOTS of people have been beating up on
> Adaptec over this.  He promised to FedEx me the PROM's today.  If anyone else
>> wants to pursue this, Adaptec's tech support number is (800) 959-7274 or
>> (408) 945-8600.  As soon as I get the new chips installed I'll post prelimina

>> observations to the list.
>>
>> Ron Neely
>> University of Missouri Columbia

>The chips? I think that the firmware on an AHA-1740 can be installed by a
>software program called ADL. No new chips or anything like that . . .

    True, the the firmware on the AHA1740 can be reprogrammed via software.
    For reasons known only to Adaptec, this feature was eliminated in the
    AHA1742A.  Swapping PROM's is the only way to update the latter.


>/--------------------------------------------------------------\
>| Chris Teuben                            C.A.Teuben@RC.RuG.NL |
>| Computing Centre - University of Groningen - The Netherlands |
>\--------------------------------------------------------------/
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From:         "Jorge Dvila, COMPUQUIM" <J_DAVILA%CUHAC@UPR1.UPR.CLU.EDU>
Subject:      (JDL) Pathworks 'n NW

Hi,

        I would like to hear experiences of those who are using (or has used)
the DEC Pathworks/Novell NetWare combination.


        Thanks.


Jorge L. Davila                   Internet: J_DAVILA%CUHAC@UPR1.UPR.CLU.EDU
University of Puerto Rico
Humacao University College
Chemistry Department
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From:         Brad Clements <BKC@DRACO.ERC.CLARKSON.EDU>
Subject: Re: Charon 4.0 LOADER.EXE Error

> User CHARON, Password(), Drive H=path home:charon
> Error 0x3 during map root

> Any Ideas or suggestions?


Error 0x3 means 'Invalid Path' or permission denied

Check your path and make sure that the charon GROUP has access to it


|Brad Clements, CCP        bkc@draco.erc.clarkson.edu      (315)268-2292
|Sr. Network Engineer      Clarkson University             Potsdam, NY USA
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 09:43:12 EST
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From:         Doug Wilkinson <DOUGW@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Looking for other Gateway 2000 users

Hi,

I'd like to get in touch with other people who use Gateway 2000 machines
as file servers or multi-protocol routers.  We don't know that much about
the hardware and adapters in these machines, so any experience to share
would be helpful.

Our file servers are all Netware 3.11 to be specific.
We use both EISA/ISA bus machines.

Please email me directly.  Thanks,

Doug Wilkinson
Computing and Information Services, Brown University
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 08:13:22 EDT
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From:         Joseph Blumenfeld <JBLUMENF@SSW02.AB.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: microchannel vs eisa

I personaly will not/never use IBM and Micro Channel architecture. If
you buy MCA machine you are limiting your self since you limit
yourself to MCA boards. MCA boards are generally more expensive and
there is not much variey to choose from.
MCA is IBM's attempt to get a competetive edge rather than a
technological edge. This claim can be proved by the fact that IBM all
of the sudden returned to the ISA world.
Anyways, do not restrict yourself by using MCA.
From: u2d65@LFKW2.BGM.LINK.COM (Duane Kerstetter)
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Subject: Re: BACKUP novell -> unix
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:21:35 GMT
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              92 9:48 pm

>
> >Does anyone know of a means of utilising the backup facilities
> >on a typical unix system ( i.e. 1.2 Gb exabyte tape drive etc )
> >so that NW311 volumes could be backed up.
>
> We have considered writing an `rtar' or `rdump' work-alike NLM which
> would use rsh into a Unix host running rmt.
>
> Unfortunately this doesn't seem to be a frequently requested application
> so I'm not sure if we will ever follow through with this idea.

I have tried to back up to mu unix machines and it crashed every one of them.
I haven't yet found out why.  It would nice if I could do it though because we
have several SUN servers with operators to do the backups for us.


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From: wnkretz@ikesg1.energietechnik.uni-stuttgart.de (Oliver Kretzschmar)
Subject: Need former distributed list of Faxserver Software (NLM)
Organization: IKE
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 07:05:40 GMT



  Hey,

  I am looking for former distributed list of available
  Faxserver Software (NLM Software for Fax). Could somebody
  mail me this list ? If possible with comments of experiences.

  Thanks for your efforts,

    Oliver
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Subject: Re: OS/2 Requester - file access problems
Date: 11 Nov 92 02:44:22 GMT
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Hi, I am trying to install OS2 on our nodes connected to our Novell 3.11 servers
. So far, I have not been successful. Can you give me some pointers?

Thanks.
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:39:43 -0800
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From:         John Villalovos <villalj@INSTRUCTION.CS.ORST.EDU>
Subject: Re: GUTEN ABEND ... NICHT!

In article <NOVELL%92110922282097@SUVM.SYR.EDU> you write:
>Fortunately, or unfortunately, there are indications that there is more
>to the problem than just the occassional crash.  Everytime I try to run
>PRODUCT INFORMATION from the INSTALL NLM, the system ABENDs (I say
>"fortunately" because at least it's predictable.)  In addition, anytime
>that I try to run BTRIEVE from the console, the BTRIEVE NLM also ABENDs
>with the following messages
>    ... 1.1.14 Module did not release 4 resources
>               Resource: Service Connection Tasks
>        1.1.16 Module did not release 253200 resources
>               Resource: Btrieve Memory
>
>MAH@merc.rx.uga.edu
>MHALL@uga.cc.uga.edu
>(706) 542-5297

The best idea I can give you is make sure that all your files in your
SYS:SYSTEM directory are flagged Shareable Read WRITE.  This is especially so
with the BTRIEVE.NLM  I have heard that having stuff flagged SRO can cause
problems with file server ABENDS.

I hope this helps you out.

Later,
--
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Certified Netware Engineer
villalj@xanth.cs.orst.edu
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:25:18 +0000
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From:         Paul Manning <pcm@MCS.LE.AC.UK>
Subject:      ISA cards & > 16 MB of RAM

I need to know of some ISA 16-bit Ethernet cards which will operate
correctly in a server with more than 16MB of RAM. Can anyone give my some
suggestions (please include card, model, and driver version) thanks.

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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1992 00:49:46 EST
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From:         Brett Warthen <BRETT@INFINITE.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      RE: Help: set station time

FORWARDED MESSAGE from Daan Nagtegaal (MAIL @ CSERVE
{INTERNET:daan@FRED.CSIR.CO.ZA}) at 11/7/92 4:37p
From: Daan Nagtegaal <daan@FRED.CSIR.CO.ZA>
Subject:      Help: set station time

Hi there,

On one of the workstations on our LAN (running Novell Netware
v3.11) I do not want to synchronise workstation time with the
time on the file server. I did try SET STATION TIME=OFF in the
shell.cfg. Shell.cfg is in the same directory as ipx.com and
netx.com. However it does not seem to work.

Any suggestions appreciated, thanks.

Daan Nagtegaal                 Internet: daan@stel.csir.co.za
***** NOTES from Brett Warthen (BRETT @ INFINITE) at 11/7/92 11:43p
Verify that SET STATION TIME OFF echos back to the screen when NETX
loads, so that you can be sure that the statement has been recognized.
If you have a NET.CFG, it could be overriding SHELL.CFG.

However, this is only half of the battle...as it is stoping NETX from
synchronizing the local workstation time with the file server when it
loads.  LOGIN.EXE also synchronizes the time when it executes!

In order to get around LOGIN.EXE synchronizing the time, you need an
update to LOGIN.EXE.  The latest version, v3.65, is available as
LOG365.ZIP in Library 6 of NOVLIB on CompuServe, or the FTP mirror site.
This ZIP file will also include instructions on the new login script
parameter you need to use for disabling this time
synchronization...offhand, I don't remember.

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