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From: leonard@allink.com (Leonard Primak)
Subject: Re: developing under sys 5 unix
Organization: NYNEX ALLINK Company
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:25:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.190843.6808@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> vahe@sparcy.Stanford.EDU (Vahe Avedissian) writes:
>I don't know if anyone else has the same experience,
>but I am always frustrated, and my patience tested
>when developing on SGI or other machines running
>Sys 5 unix.
>
>The real annoying thing is once you run a program
>with a bug, the system tends to completely stop responding
>to interrupts or anything else, the windowing
>system and manager are rendered unresponsive too.
>You just sit there and wait for the system to eventually
>(i.e. anywhere from 3 - 10 minutes or so) core dump.
>
>I've used Sun's for many years and I have rarely seen
>the window manager and entire workstation come to a halt.
>With Sys 5 unix that seems to be the norm rather than
>the exception.
>
>Do I need to reconfigure anything in the kernel/system
>setup or am I stuck (plagued) by this forever ?
>
>Any help or suggestions greatly welcome!
>
>impatient,

Well, I think you are stuck.  Sun has a particular hardware/software
configuration that "NOONE CAN STOP THE MOUSE FROM MOVING".

You can run "openwin -nosunview" and the same problem will occur on Sun.
The symptoms that you described are very serious bugs that not many people
get and not very often.  Your bug is allocating and shuffling too much memory.
What happends is that you allocate more and more memory, and the system
swaps without end until it runs out of swap space and kills your application.

Suggestion: Fix your memory allocation bug and this will never happen again.

						leonard@allink.com


Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: guy@wmsg02.wm.estec.esa.nl (Guy Brooker)
Subject: Re: printing: lpr-remote host -> lp-local-printer host
Organization: ESA/Estec/WMS, Noordwijk, The Netherlands
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:38:21 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.070806.24007@odin.corp.sgi.com>, ems@work.wpd.sgi.com (Ed Sesek) writes:
 > In <104435@netnews.upenn.edu> yates@a.chem.upenn.edu (John H. Yates) writes:
 > 
 > >Now that we know SGI wants local printers set
 > >up with only lp (and not lpr), is it transparent
 > >to print to a local SGI lp printer from our 100's
 > >of Berkeley lpr /etc/printcap machines? If so,
 > >what is needed in the printcap and in the lpadmin
 > >setup?
 > 
 > >Sigh. Why can't they just join the lpr world?
 > 
 > Here is one suggestion I pulled off the net awhile ago:
 > 
 > One idea to BSD print from a SUN on a remote SGI ATT printer is to convert 
 > the SUN's BSD print job into an ATT print job on the SGI.
 > 
 > 
 > A quick and dirty method:

Not so dirty I think ! However a couple of points of note..


 > 
 > On the SGI the command 'lpr filename' resulted in the error messsage
 > 
 > 		lpr: lp: unknown printer
 > 
 > I expected that lpr would default to the default printer (lp4, see above). Is
 > this a bug ?
 > 

This is because the default printer is 'lp' Infact as the message is saying.
Fix this by adding lp to the names in printcap entry.
i.e                       vvvv
                           vv

 	  sgi_printer_name|lp|sgi_printer_name|full_printer_name:\
 		:lp=/dev/null:if=/usr/spool/lp/filter.lpr:sd:/usr/spool/lpd:


 > Print options like -h or -o"nobanner" are not supported by this approach.
 > Maybe someone has an appropriate idea.
 > 

Unfortunately this information is not passed to the filter program, so it
won't be so easy. However, it is possible to make the banner page more
useful by sending the user and remote machine name to lp.

To do this change the file filter.lpr to

 	  #!/bin/csh -f
 
 	  lp -dsgi_printer_name -t"LPR $5 $7"

Infact strictly one should parse the options for -n (user name) and -h (host)
but this has allways worked so far. A typical set of arguments passed to the filter by lpd is as follows

-w0 -l66 -i0 -n guy -h wmsg02.wm.estec.esa.nl

Note also that you do not need to specify the files to send to lp.
This is provided automatically on the standard input by lpd


Guy

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From: frank@marvin.contex.com (Frank Perdicaro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Frustrated with SGI support
Date: 5 Jan 93 18:03:41 GMT
Organization: Xyvision Design Systems

In article <1993Jan1.063155.13814@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
>In article <1993Jan1.041429.5751@odin.corp.sgi.com>  
>julib@estrogen.corp.sgi.com (Juli Banfe) writes:
>
>> I wish I could help you out. It frustrates me that I am NOT an engineer,
>> nor do I work in Tech Support. If there is anything I can share with the
>
>SGI seems to take constant evaluation of it's support
>seriously enough to poll folks by telephone about their
>recent experiences with SGI support.  

Yes, SGI cares.  They call me.  They have even sent people out here
to see what we do!  ( That was a while ago )  They have paid me and 
others ( more than I make at work ) to come to problem sessions.

I know that Mieta really cares, and is working hard to fix things.

As I see it, she is attempting to wash the floor of a supermarket with
a toothbrush; and the floor keeps growing.  It will take some time.

( Knuth's "Concrete Mathematics" will show you how to solve that
problem exactly.  Fun book. ) 
-- 
	 Frank Evan Perdicaro 				Xyvision Color Systems
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From: mott@sgi.com (David Mott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Inventor Question.
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:52:42 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics
NNTP-Posting-Host: clamato.asd.sgi.com

In article <1993Jan7.204949.27213@erenj.com> ram@ramsgi.erenj.com (ram rajagopalan) writes:
>hi,
>
>  I would like to position a camera other than the default location, and 
>  I haven't beeen quite successful at it.  Following is the piece of code
>  I am using ...
>
>   root = SoSepCreate();
>
>   camera = SoPerspCamCreate();
>   SoSV3fSetX_Y_Z(&camera->position,x_pos,y_pos,z_pos);
>
>   material = SoMtlCreate();
>   SoSepRef( root );
>   SoSepAddChild( root, (SoNode *) camera );
>   SoSepAddChild( root, (SoNode *) SoDirLtCreate() );
>
>   ...
>
>
>   If any one could point out the mistake in this code I would appreciate
>   it.  Thanks in advance.
>

This code seems fine. Are you calling SoPerspCamViewAll() on the camera?
That would change the camera's position from whatever you set it to.

If not, does your data lie within the camera clipping planes? If you
change the camera position, you may also have to change the camera
nearDistance and farDistance fields so that your data does not get
clipped out of view.

One of the example files that comes with Inventor sets the camera position.
See /usr/src/Inventor/examples/PG1/11.2.AppEventHandler_c.c

David
From: yywang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Yong-Yi Wang)
Subject: what is VTOC manager?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:36:27 GMT


We have a Apollo DN10000 running OS10.4. Recently, we started to get
error like this:
xxx - VTOC is bad from (OS/VTOC manager).

Does anybody know what kind error this is (software or hardware) and how to fix
it?
This error came up in various processes, like editing, reading files.

thanks

Y. Wang
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: gsbg9079@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (G. Scott Braley)
Subject: Some DN4000 questions
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:37:36 GMT

I just bought a DN4000, and I have a few questions about some of the hardware.

First, my understanding is that at least some of the slots are AT Bus.  Does that mean that
I could replace a damaged slot with a standard PC slot?  Well, not me personally, but someone
mildly competant with a soldering iron...

Secondly, I understand that it is possible to upgrade to a 33 MHz '030 motherboard.  How much
should one of these cost?  What about any higher upgrades, ie an '040?

Thirdly, I presently have 16 MB RAM, and would like to add 2 more 8 MB boards.  How much will
they cost me?

Well, I'll post more questions as I think of them.  Thanks for your time.

			-Scott

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: joey@tessi.com (Joey Pruett)
Subject: skipping records on cartridge tape
Keywords: cartridge tape record skip
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:00:10 GMT

i can't seem to find a way to fast forward to a given record with a 1/4
inch cartridge tape.  i know how to skip to file marks.  "mt fsr"
doesn't work, ios$seek is documented to not work the the mts$ system,
lseek doesn't work.  is there any way to do this?
From: kuku@acds.physik.rwth-aachen.de (Christoph Kukulies)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: SYSTYPE, where is it defined
Date: 12 Jan 1993 16:59:37 GMT
Organization: I.Physikalisches Institut RWTH-Aachen
Distribution: world
Reply-To: kuku@acds.physik.rwth-aachen.de
NNTP-Posting-Host: acds.physik.rwth-aachen.de


I'm trying to repair a bent 10.3.5 installation. Could anyone tell me where
$SYSTYPE is defined initially for the system?

--
--Chris
Christoph P. U. Kukulies
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From: thompson@pan.ssec.honeywell.com (jt -- John Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: re: PSK installation 10.3.5 quirks
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:26:50 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet



> I have a problem with a probably a bit broken PSK installation - due to 
> ...
> 
> I cannot get rid of one quirk:
> When I type wd /bin I get
> ?(sh) - "/bin" too many compnonents in pathname (OS/naming server)
This almost certainly means that somewhere along the line (maybe even before
the intallation of the PSK, you got your links screwed up.  The /bin object
is a variant link that points to either /bsd4.3/bin or /sys5.3/bin, depending
on the value of SYSTYPE (/bin --> "$(SYSTYPE)/bin").  You may have /bsd4.3/bin
pointing to itself, for instance (or back to /bin).  You'll get the same
effect, however, if you delete your SYSTYPE variable.

> Also, during install++ I get two or three messages that tell:
> 
> Warning: not updating /bsd4.3 cannot install through links
This might indicate that /bsd4.3 was installed as a link to some other machine
when you first loaded it, and that somewhere along the line, that machine name 
is now the to-be-installed-machine's name


-- jt --
John Thompson
Senior Engineer / Sys-Admin
Honeywell, SSEC
Plymouth, MN  55441
thompson@pan.ssec.honeywell.com

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From: rees@pisa.citi.umich.edu (Jim Rees)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: tar problem
Date: 8 Jan 1993 17:23:58 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan CITI
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: Jim.Rees@umich.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: pisa.citi.umich.edu

In article <C0JLu0.1np@unx.sas.com>, sasdzr@borel.unx.sas.com (David F. Ross) writes:

  When untar'ing (tar xvf) a tar file created on another host (sun),
  midway through the process it stops and prints a message telling me
  to "mount the volume and then hit return".

Apollo tar has always been notoriously bad.  I recommend either John
Gilmore's free tar or gnu tar.  You can get a version of Gilmore's tar,
modified for use with Domain/OS, from archive.umich.edu.
From: david@cssnet.UUCP (J. David Schronce)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Telecomm and the DN3000
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:35:03 GMT
Organization: Computer Support Services - Public Access Usenet

We were recently given a DN3000to configure and donate to the local 
school system.  The previous owner loaned us BOXES full of manuals, but 
missing from them was any kind of hardware manual.  We'd like to hand a 
modem off the back of the box and the port marks "P2" looks like a serial 
port, but I can't seem to find a way to address it.   Is it tty01?  is it 
/dev/com?  Can anybody point me in the right direction?
  
Any and all replies SINCERELY appreciated.

Please reply to: ...duke!wolves!cssnet!david as the uucp maps are VERY 
slow in distribution.

Thanks!!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: bri@athena.mit.edu (Brian D. Carlstrom)
Subject: Apollo program to give System Type?
Organization: mit
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:36:56 GMT

is there a program i can run on the apollo that will return
a short answer system type such as just 'apollo' or even
'sau7' or 'sau8'? sorta like machtype or hosttype or 
arch on the sun.

-bri
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: chris@zeus.alta-oh.com (Chris Murphy)
Subject: Apollo TRACEBACK system call
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:31:39 GMT
Organization: ALTA Analytics

Hi all,
I'm looking for a system call (under 10.4) which returns
traceback information. I figure such a call must exist,
because /com/tb manages to do it somehow.
The function will be called several times within an 
executing program.

Any information would be gratefully appreciated.

Cheers,
	Chris.

P.S. If there are such calls on other machines (SUN/HP/DEC/etc)
     then that would work also.


-- 
Chris Murphy    -   chris@alta-oh.com
(614) 792-2222      Columbus. OH.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: sassek@wonka.unx.sas.com (Steve Krueger)
Subject: DPCC and VGA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:54:50 GMT
Organization: World

Does anyone know if it's possible to install a VGA card into 
an Apollo 3500 with a DPCC card? I have been unable to get the
DPCC to recognize the existance of the VGA card.

Please respond E-mail.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: robh@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Rob Hindman)
Subject: Cant get Lint working on apollo
Organization: Boeing Computer Services
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:51:49 GMT

Newsgroups: boeing.unix comp.sys.apollo
Subject: getting lint working on Apollo workstations
Distribution: world

I am having problems getting "lint" working on the most fundamental
of C programs, hello world.  Needless to say, this is very 
disturbing to me, as lint is one of my new years resolutions.

The error that I am getting is this: 

$ lint hello.c
stdio.h(108): syntax error
stdio.h(109):
        **** cannot recover from this error ****

Well, something is wrong.  It could be me, since I'm fairly ignorant
about lint, or it could be the way that the compiler or libraries were
installed.  If you have any suggestions, please send them to me at

robh@bcstec.boeing.com

and I'll try them out.  If anything works, I'll post the correct solution to
the net.  

Thanks For Your Help,
Robert.
Newsgroups: boeing.comp.unix comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Cant get Lint working on apollo
Distribution: world

I am having problems getting "lint" working on the most fundamental
of C programs, hello world.  Needless to say, this is very 
disturbing to me, as lint is one of my new years resolutions.

The error that I am getting is this: 

$ lint hello.c
stdio.h(108): syntax error
stdio.h(109):
        **** cannot recover from this error ****

Well, something is wrong.  It could be me, since I'm fairly ignorant
about lint, or it could be the way that the compiler or libraries were
installed.   I am running on Domain O/S 10.3.5 

If you have any suggestions, please send them to me at

robh@bcstec.boeing.com

and I'll try them out.  If anything works, I'll post the correct solution to
the net.  

Thanks For Your Help,
Robert.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: afgun@engin.umich.edu (Andrew F Gunnesch)
Subject: Information on programming Apollo video cards
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 17:07:24 EST
Organization: What?  We don't need no stinkin' organization
Summary: Need video card info
Followup-To: comp.sys.apollo
Keywords: PC, Apollo, video

A few months ago, I recall a posting from someone who had gotten
a 4 plane video card in a PC to do some bitblits and lines.  I am
interested in programming the Apollo video cards for use in PCs
as well now, and would appreciate any and all information on this
hardware.  Also, if the poster of this long-lost article could
get in touch with me, I would be very grateful.

--andrew
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From: gordon@madmax.uwaterloo.ca (Gordon R. Strachan)
Subject: Re: InterWorks Call for Papers (Universities SIG)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:34:21 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.154218.12683@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson)) writes:
>Call For Papers for InterWorks Conference, April 25-28, 1993.
>
>Anyone, anywhere, who has an idea for a paper for presentation in the
>Universities Special Interest Group at the InterWorks Conference in
>Phoenix, Arizona, should contact me at your earliest convenience.
>Note that this meeting covers both Domain/OS and HP-UX, either as
>separate environments or interoperating.

If it isn't too much trouble, perhaps you could post a list of paper titles
presented in this SIG at previous meetings.  It could help someone in deciding
on suitable subject matter.

Gordon
From: kuku@ACDS.PHYSIK.RWTH-AACHEN.DE (Christoph Kukulies)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: re: SYSTYPE, where is it defined
Date: 12 Jan 93 23:21:57 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Thanks for helping. Got it!
--Chris
From: chuck@edsi.plexus.COM (Chuck Tomasi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: 3COM PC NFS and Domain/OS
Date: 5 Jan 93 21:59:21 GMT
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI

I almost posted this about a month ago, but thought I would check the
FAQ list first... lucky for me I did and found some information.

I'm running 3COM PC NFS on a test PC at our site and got pcnfsd.v2 off
the net, however the PC doesn't want to talk to our Apollo.  We're
running Domain/OS 10.3.5.4 on our workstation.  The sources 3COM sent
along with PC NFS didn't compile worth crap under Domain so I grabbed
the suggested pcnfsd.  After recently testing it I came to the same
conclusion as if it wasn't running at all.  I get a NFS103 error which
says that the remote host is not communicating.  Is there some way to
specify a port number to pcnfsd.v2?

I have successfully used 3comnfsd on our HP-UX machines, but as
mentioned before those sources don't compile at all on our Domain
machines.

Any help is appreciated.
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From: kgallagh@digi.lonestar.org (Kevin Gallagher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: Cant get Lint working on apollo
Date: 7 Jan 93 07:03:11 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

In article <1993Jan6.181127.6201@phcomgw.seri.philips.nl> cazander%serigate@phcoms.seri.philips.nl (Koos Cazander) writes:
>Rob Hindman (robh@bcstec.ca.boeing.com) wrote:
>One of the problems is ANSI C, lint would recognize prototypes,
>and HP (and sun also) would not update lint, they think the ANSI C compiler
>will flag all errors :-(.

In SR10.4, the SYS 5 version of lint has be upgraded to be ANSI C compatible.
The BSD version has not, unfortunately.

This is another reason to upgrade to 10.4.

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From: wjw@ebh.eb.ele.tue.nl (Willem Jan Withagen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: PSK installation 10.3.5 quirks
Date: 12 Jan 93 08:45:23 GMT
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands

In article <1irnd2INN1fv@urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> kuku@acds.physik.rwth-aachen.de writes:
=>When I type wd /bin I get
=>
=>?(sh) - "/bin" too many compnonents in pathname (OS/naming server)
=>
Sounds like you have a cycle in your links, which keeps the path looping and growing
until the max size is reached. 

Also be aware of dynamic links:
ebh{wjw}7: ll /bin
   1 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root           14 Dec  2 15:26 /bin@ -> $(SYSTYPE)/bin

If in this case SYSTYPE is not set, you get that "/bin" points to "/bin". Which gives
you your loop. 

	Willem Jan

Digital Information Systems Group, Room EH 10.35 
Eindhoven University of Technology   
P.O. 513                     		Tel: +31-40-473401,Fax: +31-40-448375
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: mal@world.std.com (Mark A Lamourine)
Subject: wanted: disk & memory
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:23:15 GMT

I have a DN3000 with 6MB of memory and a dead 170 MB disk.
I'd like to get one more 2MB memory card and a 380MB ESDI disk.
Anyone have spares they'd like to deal for?

I also have what I have been told is a PC emulator card.  Anyone want it?

- Mark

Mark Lamourine 
Phone: (617) 641-3813
Snail: 6 Mott St, Arlington MA, 02174 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: elsen@imec.be (Marc  Elsen)
Subject: ntp for domain os
Reply-To: elsen@imec.be (Marc  Elsen)
Organization: IMEC V.Z.W.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 09:31:46 GMT



  Can I get a version of ntp (network time protocol) for domain os
  somewhere.

                                       Thanks.

  Please reply by e-mail

--
    Marc (elsen@imec.be)
    'Waterdust is fine but even hydrogen would have lead
     to a never ending story...'
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo