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From: v117qh7z@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Ivor G Reid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: sports in Jamaica
Keywords: Sports (Manning Cup, Boys Champs...........)
Date: 8 Sep 92 02:37:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41





            Hello all, is there anybody out there that can give me
            any update on sporting events happening in Jamaica.  I
            am tired of the boring baseball etc...... that they
            show us here in USA.   I would really apreciate it
            thank you.


    P.S.   Former Camperdown High School student so I am really into
           sports.  I left JA. in 1986 and I haven't returned so really
           miss the excitement etc........
From: fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: "Going to Extremes"
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:46:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: network.192j51INNlkm
Organization: University of California, San Diego
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In article <wg2kqB6w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> andy-w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Andrew webster) writes:
>judy@technology.com (Judy McMillin) writes:
>
>- Scott, maybe they don't call the island "jamaica" because Jamaica is 
>- not quite as backward as "janique".  Also, I think Jamaica has a national
>- health service and that might not fit into the story line.
>- 
>- 
>- 		Just a thought.  Judy
>
>____________________________________________________________________
>Jamaica has a national health service? Well tell that to the some of the 
>market women from St Elizabeth that wait hours and hours in "that" 
>country hospital with sick children in their hands! 
>
>Andrew webster              andy-w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 

Aside from the fact that Black River hospital is understaffed,
underfunded, and not particularly sanitary, what's wrong with it
? :-<
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From: v117qh7z@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Ivor G Reid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: CBS Show
Keywords: Stereotype
Date: 9 Sep 92 00:36:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41




	Hey Patrice I agree with the person you were refering to; it is
	about time they stop the stereotyping of our caribbean islands
	as being backword.  I do agree that we have our rural parts in
	Jamaica but the way they potray our people and country as being
	some un-civilized place is wrong.  Therefore I think they are
	sending the wrong message or potrayal of our country.  It is
	nice to see that they are using our people to do this show but I
	think they can do better by getting the real idea from our people
	to do their show.  Peace and hold tight Patrice..... correct
	me if I misinterpret any thing you have said in your message.
From: rahman@ces.cwru.edu (Rahman A. Soomro)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Rain Relief Fund
Date: 9 Sep 1992 19:24:45 GMT
Organization: Computer Engineering and Science, Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: easy.ces.cwru.edu


Dear friends,

Recent rains in Pakistan have caused devastating effects on the 
daily life of the Pakistani people. Scores of people have lost there
lives and more than a million have been homeless.

	I appeal to you to help our brothers and sisters in need
and donate some money to help them. Please send your contribution
(tax deductible) with your name and also I request you to collect 
donations from any source -- your colleagues at work, friends, business
associates, customers, persons from any nationalities and backgrouds
to help people in trouble. 

	We are tying you help suffering peoples, who are suffering
from disease and malnutrition.

Please mail your contributions to:

Pakistan Rain Relief Fund
4105 Providence drive
St. Charles, MO 63304
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Labor day Jam in Brooklyn
From: <MISHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Tuesday, 8 Sep 1992 09:09:31 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

Hi to my fellow West indians!
      I am speaking especially to the Trinidadians.  Those costumes were
beautiful. The people were out to have a good time and they did.  To my fellow
Grenadians I must say that we sure know our way around when it comes to the
last lap jump. The grenadians had place pumping. Well that was my opinion. What
did the rest of you think around the Labor day parade in Brooklyn?

Michelle
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: morphy@cco.caltech.edu (Jones Maxime Murphy)
Subject: Whatever happened to spouge?
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:55:30 GMT

Yeah, the Draytons 2, Wendy Alleyne and all that. Bajans?
Jones
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From: morphy@cco.caltech.edu (Jones Maxime Murphy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: Labor day Jam in Brooklyn
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:13:32 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena

MISHC@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:

>Hi to my fellow West indians!
>      I am speaking especially to the Trinidadians.  Those costumes were
>beautiful. The people were out to have a good time and they did.  To my fellow
>Grenadians I must say that we sure know our way around when it comes to the
>last lap jump. The grenadians had place pumping. Well that was my opinion. What
>did the rest of you think around the Labor day parade in Brooklyn?
>Michelle

Well, I thought there wasvirtually no media coverage, considering that the
parade brought out 2 million or so peopl(by far the biggest inNYC)
Jones
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: jasammer@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHN ASHLEY SAMMERSON)
Subject: RE: Indians-Indians...
Originator: jasammer@c00365-247dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Keywords: Curry Tabanca......
Reply-To: jasammer@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHN ASHLEY SAMMERSON)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 04:02:28 GMT


                 STUFF DELETED

> I realize those islands are called West Indies, actually I've been asked
> if I'M West Indian, but my question is:
> 
> What's the percentage (a guestimate)  of Indians among these Islands.
>

  I can't speak for the other islands and Guyana, but approx. 42%
of Trinidad's population is (of some form) of East Indian descent.
I say "of some form", because like most Trinidadians, there is a
remanence of every dam ethnicity amongst the masses. As a matter
of fact, it exemplifies some of the most cosmopoliton cross-sections
of people; especially taking into consideration it's size. Take for
example my family; I have cousins whose dominant ethnic trait is
of East Indian descent (surname is Maharaj) and others who are of
a more Chinese than anything else. And this is not an uncommon
occurence. I'll tell yuh one thing, weddings an' ting does be nice;
from Chow Mein to Pelau to Roti. As a matter of fact, Diwali(Divali);
a Hindu ting right around de corner. Dat is big ting for a lot of 
Trinidad Hindus (and for some of us who just want an excuse for some
curry).

  As far as the music goes; yes; a lot of it does have an East Indian
overtone. Also, there is a specfic subset of soca that has an even 
stronger East Indian intimation - called Chutney. I hear it is a big 
ting, and growin' bigger every year.

  Ah Gone!


John S.
100% Trini
My Uncle Sonny never cease to amaze me
  Since he pick up dis Indian woman living Caroni
What she give him to eat, I really don't know
  But ev'ry 10 words he speak, bet yuh life 9 is 'bout Golo
He stop practicing African tradition
  And tell he-self he true, true Indian....
                    Golo - Second Imij  
	            (BTW, dis was de song at de end of de Caribbean
                     Music Awards show that frequents BET)
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:35:21 EDT
From: <AGL1@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: Tropical fruit...
Distribution: usa

In article <2AB61078.2625@news.service.uci.edu>, ecurtis@orion.oac.uci.edu
(Evans Curtis) says:
>
>In Nicaragua we have fruit that is (+ -) about the size of a small lime.
>call them 'quinep' (kinnep).
>
>What do you folks call this fruit.

In Jamaica, we call them 'guineps'.  In Barbados, they are called 'ackees'.
This created some confusion, when I heard the vendors shouting 'Ackees, Ackee'
I expected to see the Jamaican national fruit, part of the national dish,
a totally different fruit.

Arlene Laing
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: jasammer@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHN ASHLEY SAMMERSON)
Subject: RE: Labor day Jam in Brooklyn 
Originator: jasammer@c00365-247dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Keywords: Ah miss de dam ting....
Reply-To: jasammer@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHN ASHLEY SAMMERSON)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 03:10:49 GMT




> Hi to my fellow West indians!
>      I am speaking especially to the Trinidadians.  Those costumes were

	STUFF DELETED

  Man messages like dis does hurt meh heart. Doh geh vex, but ah was
hopin' fuh rain an' ting because ah couldn't make it. Ah have wok comin'
out meh "ying-yang", so ah had tuh labour on Labour Day. Cheups! Yuh  
ever hear more??? But, like is everybody makin' it a point tuh lemme
know what ah miss. Especially, ah heard dat Hawks band was depicting ole-
time calypsoes, and dey had a section on "My Pussy"...ah hear de costumes
boy.... like Blueboy say, it could make yuh culture rise! And where was
I...in some dam lab ketchin' meh nen-nen! 

  Ah Gone!

John S.
100% Trini
Labour Day jam in Brooklyn
  Dat is where I met Evelyn
...
Put yuh hand in de air and shake it
  Wave it like yuh doh care and shake it
Put yuh boomsee dong low and shake it
  Rock it to and fro' and shake it
                - Shake It
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From: simon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Patrice A. Simon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: DIS NEW SHOW DEM HAVE ON TV
Date: 8 Sep 92 23:44:54 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Sep3.165835.18680@ultb.isc.rit.edu> nvw8292@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>HEY, FELLOW NETTERS,
>I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY POORLY DONE ESPECIALLY SINCE IT WAS MEANT TO BE A
>COMEDY. 
>THE PERPETUAL STEREOTYPE OF THE ISLANDS MUST STOP!  GOAT IN BUS, DIRTY TAP
>WATER, ETC.  AT LEAST THEY USED REAL CARIBBEAN FOLKS THIS TIME AND THE
>PHONY NORTH AMERICANS WITH PHONY ACCENTS.  

	Guess what? There is at least one phony North American accent - that
bwoy who picked up people at the airport. And I don't think the producers 
were that far off from depicting 'country' life in most islands. After all,
I think it is filmed on Jamaica. As for the other things, when was the last
time you took a trip home? The show was authentic! - except for the name -
Jantique
	By the way, what is the regular time for "Going to Extremes"? It's on 
CBS, right?
	
-- 
Patrice Simon
simon@acsu.cc.buffalo.edu			v5097ucd@ubvms.buffalo.edu
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From: ecurtis@orion.oac.uci.edu (Evans Curtis)
Subject: Indians-Indians...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:30:47 GMT
Distribution: usa



On a flight from L.A. to Miami several years ago, I overheard a conversation
going on in the seats behind me.  I could not get the sense of what they 
were talking about, but the accent touched really close to home.  It made
me feel like a KNEW these people, yet when I checked them out they looked
totally Indian; dark, jet-black straight hair.  Later on in the flight I
couldn't resist, I just had to ask them where they were from.  To my surprise
they said Trinidad. :) 

I realize those islands are called West Indies, actually I've been asked
if I'M West Indian, but my question is:

What's the percentage (a guestimate)  of Indians among these Islands.

I've also noticed that many soca songs refer to Indian stuff, blah, blah...


Regards,


Evans.-



Run 'way from mama
 red hot with fevah
Indian bazaar the'
 jammin' the soca, jammin' the soca...
From: ecurtis@orion.oac.uci.edu (Evans Curtis)
Subject: Re: Indians-Indians...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:28:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.012328.1@auvax1> schmidt@auvax1 writes:
>In article <1992Sep11.040228.11590@ncsu.edu>, jasammer@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHN ASHLEY SAMMERSON) writes:

>>                  STUFF DELETED
>
>I had been curious for some time concerning the ethnicity of one of the many
>Trinis I know at my "paying" job, and eventually got up the courage to ask him. 
>It turns out he is one quarter Black, one quarter "East Indian", one quarter
>Portugese, and one quarter Chinese, give or take a little.  Trinidad has to be
>one of the most cosmopolitan places around.  The history of how this came about
>is most fascinating.
>


I'm of the belief that when races mix, you come up, more often than not,
with some outstanding combos.  You guys remember Janella Penny Commissiong?
Anyway, that's besides the point...  :) :)

I have a friend who worked on one of those Cruise Ships, and it occurred to
me to ask, since he'd visited several islands/countries, where he saw the
most beautiful women.  Of course every nation has beautiful women, as well
as some 'not-beautiful' :) ones.  But his reply, without hesitation, was 
Trinidad and Tobago.  He said that there were some awesome combinations
out there :)


Evans.-
From: mperdrea@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Michel S. Perdreau)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: RE: Indians-Indians
Summary: East Indians in the Caribbean
Keywords: book on East Indians
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:31:48 GMT
Organization: Ohio University CS Dept,. Athens

To follow up on Evans Curtis & John A. Sammerson's thread ....

I recently came across a book titled : _Indians in the Caribbean: the
Other India_ / ed. by I.J. Bahadur Singh. New Delhi : Stirling, 1989 ?
(Published for the India International Center)
This appears to be a revised version of the proceedings of a conference
held at UWI-St. Aug. with ne info etc. I was informed by the Library
Director of IIC on tuesday that Amb. Singh has expired -term he used.
The book costs only Rs200.00
Perhaps a copy could be had via ILL at some institution

Michel S. Perdreau  mperdrea@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu
  
 
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From: gdsimpso@unix.amherst.edu (GILBERTO DANIEL SIMPSON)
Subject: Latino E-Mailing List
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 05:42:31 GMT


 
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        If the list continues to grow, it has the potential to create a large
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        If you are interested in becoming a subscriber to this e-mailing list,
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From: robert@cse.fau.edu (Robert France)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: more on '...Extremes'
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:16:19 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA

After hearing the positive reports on the new series '...Extremes' I decided
to take some time out to watch it last night. Just my luck to catch one of the
very lukewarm episodes! At the end I asked myself "is this it?" (my wife
quit watching half way through the show!). Frankly it was a bore - filled
with the usual caribbean cliches (no problem mon! animals everywhere,
incompetent public services etc.) and to top it a soppy ending! 

What could save the show is the location: it really adds authenticity to the
series (too much! there was a part where the river and sea sounds almost
drowned out the dialogue). The music was so-so; I got real excited at the
start when they played the new Wailing Souls "Picky picky head" but that
turned out to be only musical high point in the show.

I could go on and on about certain parts of the script; I'll just say
the parts assigned to the local actors did not take full advantage of
the colorful qualities of our dialect - my advise to the producers - get
a notable West Indian writer on board fast!

Next week's show looks promising though - I saw some cricket scenes in 
the highlight which looks like the 'American kid meets cricket' type stuff -
won't miss this one!

All said and done, nuff respect to Maxine for getting this series on
local soil.

Robert


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: scairns@is.morgan.com (Scott Cairns)
Subject: Re: "Going To Extremes"
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:48:46 GMT


Anyone know who does the series title track?  (The track which is
playing during the opening credits).

Respect.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re.Labor Day Jam in Brooklyn
From: <MISHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Wednesday, 9 Sep 1992 09:14:38 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

Fellow west Indians
                    I must agree with some of you in saying for such a well
attended publised part of our cultural heritage, we were not given enough media
coverage. For Macy's day parade and the Puerto Rico day the media has field
days. I think that we as west indians have to start realising that we are still
not taken seriously in this country. I know minorities in general are not heard
but, my personal opinion is, west indians need to start standing together to
make some headway in this society. We need to stop the putting up the native
island barries and start working together. We are a CARIBBEAN people.
       Getting back to the subject of the labor day parade. I have not heard
the results of the parade  I feel somehow from what I saw that Hawks would be
amoung the top ranked. Amoung those for the road march I think "raise your hand
or wine up" would be amoung the top ranked.
                 Peace. Keep intuned with your culture.

Michelle
From: v117qh7z@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Ivor G Reid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: CBS SHOW UPDATE
Keywords: sense making
Date: 9 Sep 92 02:43:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41



	Patrice I understand both of your point of views thanks for
	clearing that up.  I feel the same way you feel about the
	show and yes it does give one a nice feeling of seeing certain
	things that one can relate to.

P.S.    I have to laugh a bit you say maybe they should show Oliver at
	Large show I think it is funny but I think some people will have 
	problem understanding the Jamaican slang (Patio).  Probably 
	they would have to modify it a bit as how they did with that
	Desmon show in England.  
From: Ronald@tdkt.kksys.com (Ronald Butler)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: "Going to Extremes"
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 01:04:49 -0600

 <SC>I don't see the reason for calling the island "Jantique", why 
 <SC>didn't they
 <SC>just come out and say Jamaica.

Probably because they were afraid of giving Jamdown free advertisement.

......Yuh kaan ketch qwaaku yu ketch im shut.....nuh true dreaddy?
                           Ron


 * Origin: Ronald's Basement (1:282/92.6)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: nvw8292@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: DIS NEW SHOW DEM HAVE ON TV
Reply-To: nvw8292@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:58:35 GMT

HEY, FELLOW NETTERS,

WHAT OONU TINK ABOUT DI NEW SHOW ON TV?  I KNOW YOU ALL ARE VERY STUDIOUS
BUT I JUST HAPPENED TO BE FLIPPIN THROUGH THE CHANNELS TH OTHER DAY AND CAME
CROSS DIS SHOW - SOM'PN' ANODDA "JANTIQUE"

I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY POORLY DONE ESPECIALLY SINCE IT WAS MEANT TO BE A
COMEDY. 

THE PERPETUAL STEREOTYPE OF THE ISLANDS MUST STOP!  GOAT IN BUS, DIRTY TAP
WATER, ETC.  AT LEAST THEY USED REAL CARIBBEAN FOLKS THIS TIME AND THE
PHONY NORTH AMERICANS WITH PHONY ACCENTS.  

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

LATER.