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From: muller@alliant.com (Jim Muller)
Subject: Re: What so great about Martin guitar ?
Organization: Alliant Computer Systems Corp.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 16:03:23 GMT

In <22195.9204131703@thor.cf.ac.uk> scogpw@thor.cf.ac.uk
   (Gordon Walker) writes:
>A question for Martin afficionados: how much variation do you find
>between different instruments of the same design? Are all HD-28s as good
>as each other? Are they *always* better than D28s?

You mean three questions, don't you?

A fair amount.
No, but "good" means different things to different people.
No, but "better" means different things to different people.

All D-28's do not sound alike, though they do tend to have similarities.
Some people might find an exceptional D-28 more interesting than a less
distinctive HD-28.  It is very hard to draw firm conclusions about this
level of guitar, especially since they will sound different in different
weather, with different strings, etc.  In general, the HD-28 will be a
"better" guitar, but there are exceptions.
-- 
Jim Muller
muller@alliant.com
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: bill@verdix.com (William Spencer)
Subject: Re: Homebuilt amps?
Organization: Verdix Corp.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 21:32:40 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.153854.25146@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bp816@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stuart Krivis) writes:
>
>For a long time I have wanted to build a tube guitar amp. (I
>can't afford to buy a Boogie or similar) Can anyone give me info
>on possible circuits?

There's nothing real cheap about building one for parts. Find a cheap old one.
If you want to change it, copy circuits from books like the Tube Amp Book.
If you want to control the result, learn to understand the circuits. Beyond
that, I really can't help you.

>Also: I have been wondering whether anyone has designed a solid
>state amp that has the tube sound? Are any of the commercial
>solid state amps as good as they say they are? I have a Peavey
>and, while I think it's a good amp, it isn't as good as Peavey
>says it is. Most of the ads in the mags seem too good to be 
>true.

You're learning!

bill S.
From: mat berry
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Talking guitar......
Date: 10 Apr 92 06:02:32 GMT
Organization: wollongong uni

I was playing with harmonics the other night and figured out that
if you overdrive the input to the max and hit the distortion, then 
play the harmonics up on the 12th frets of the B(2nd) and E(1st)
strings, some good effects can be produced, especially if you bend 
the strings behind the nut.
play on,
play long,
PLAY HARD.
yo later
mat.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: 10695400@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (CRAIG LAWTON)
Subject: Those Fucking Scales
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 00:58:29 GMT

What is a dimished scale!!!
Someone tell me. I mean apparently it goes with anything, so I wish I knew 
what it was!!!
Craig
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: larryh@cabezon.uucp (Larry Huntley)
Subject: Re: Yamaha Or Ibanez??? Help!!!
Organization: Logic Modeling Corporation / Beaverton OR & Milpitas CA
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 01:23:21 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.193815.13474@acsu.buffalo.edu> v056rcrx@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Chuck, the Fencing God) writes:
>In article <1992Apr5.191704.1@acad3.alaska.edu>, fsmlw1@acad3.alaska.edu writes...
>>Okay all you guitar hounds out there... I have a question regarding a new
>>players first electic guitar... I have been looking at both Ibanez and Yamaha
>
		{seque into The Fencing God's pronouncment..}

>In conclusion, DON'T BUY A LOW-PRICED IBANEZ!!!  The expensive Ibanez guitar's
>are great; I mean JEMs, RADIUS models, etc....anything over $1000.00
>Beginner-priced Ibanez's are a joke, that's all......everyone I've
>mentioned this to has concurred.
>BTW, my first name-brand guitar was a KRAMER....and buy did IT suck!!!
>Crappy electronics, LOUSY intonation (i mean TERRIBLE!!!!), the bar didn't
>stay in tune, etc...
>
>BOY, ALL THESE 'AXES' HAVE GREAT PAINT JOBS, THOUGH, DON'T THEY?!??!!!!??!???
>
>(HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEEHEEHEEE)
>
>                                   Chuck "buy a charvel" Farnsworth

	I've recommended this before, but if you are looking for a first
	axe, look at the Peavey Predator.  It's not as flashy as some of
	the other axes around (no skulls, naked women, etc.) but it is a
	very solid guitar, good sounding, easy to play.  A Strat copy, to
	be sure, and if you aren't particularly into that, then this is
	probably not the guitar for you, but check it out.  You could save
	enough money for a decent case and some effects.



-- 

    Larry Huntley / Logic Modeling Corporation / Beaverton  OR
    Fire and Chains and/Fire and Chains and/Fire and Chains and...
                      [Stop Continental Drift!]
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: grigsby@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Spiral Death Trap)
Subject: Re: distortion boxes?
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 05:44:42 GMT


In article <1992Apr9.234416.12017@Gwinnett.COM> lee@Gwinnett.COM (Lee Reese) writes:

   I am in the market for a new distortion pedal.  I currently have a Rat
   but I want a distortion box that doesn't cut off the lower frequencies 
   as much.  The Rockman units (distortion generator or "sustainor") seem
   to be nice.  Does anybody have any experience with them?  Is there any-
   thing better?  BTW, I want to use this pedal with a Jackson Soloist with
   a EMG 81.    

Rockmans (rockmen?) are way expensive and only give you about five different
sounds, which is OK if you like them but I get sick of it quickly.  I use a
Butler "Real Tube" and like it a lot: good low-end for that rhythm crunch.
It's a little on the sloppy end, so if you're looking for tight distortion
try something solid-state.  Lists around $120, I got mine used for $60. // g
From: kew@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (steve.w.askew)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Talking guitar......
Summary: At last someone on this net with a actual sense of humor
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:47:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <14016@acorn.co.uk>, mley@acorn.co.uk (Martin Ley) writes:
> 
> Have a good weekend
> 
> Martin


Thanks Martin. Its good to know that someone out there is paying attention.
I think we all take this shit a little bit seriously sometimes. I loved the 
jokes. Although I now have to clean the soda off of my monitor.  I wasnt
expecting jokes on alt.guitar.gods.in.waiting

Steve
Doin That Blues ThAng!
Come on down the Sippin E-Z
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From: janet@cs.uwa.oz.au (Janet Jackson)
Subject: Re: CHORDS: U2 "One" (Has this been done?)
Organization: Dept. Computer Science, University of Western Australia.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 06:42:26 GMT

In <1992Apr9.091112.17893@srd.bt.co.uk> hroberts@everest.srd.bt.co.uk (Huw Roberts) writes:

>The middle bit ('Love is a [something], Love the higher love...) is
>something like this:
>
>C  Am  C  Am  C  G  G  F  F

That's "love is a temple, love the higher law".

I had a go at the beginning of the song last night and got

  Am?          Dmaj7
Is it getting better
  Fmaj7        G?
or do you feel the same?
  Am?          Dmaj7
Is it any easier on you now
  Fmaj7        G?
you got someone to blame?
              C          Am
You say it's one love, one life
           Fmaj7          C?
when it's one need in the night
 C                  Am
one love, we get to share it
    Fmaj7                 C?
it leaves you baby if you don't care for it

Am?, G? and C? are not new chords :-) - they mean I'm not sure.

The (open) Am doesn't sound quite right with the record but I can't see (hear)
what else can go there.  Actually it sounds better if I don't play the top
(E) string (ie, just play the middle 4 strings).

For the (open) G's it sounds better if you add the D, 3rd fret 2nd string.

The C? ones, I'm really dubious about.  It sounds like there's a chord
change there but whatever I try sounds awful.

Anyone got a better approximation?  It's such a beautiful song, don't want
to ruin it!

One thing's for sure - it certainly isn't down a semitone as someone else
suggested.  (Although it's true that U2 often play in A flat minor.)

Janet Jackson*
<janet@cs.uwa.edu.au>
Department of Computer Science
The University of Western Australia

*No comments on my name please.  I've heard it all before.
From: kew@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (steve.w.askew)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Homebuilt amps?
Summary: Bassman Xformer price
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:22:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

> Also availiable from Antique Electronic, see below.
> 
> >>>>From: kew@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (steve.w.askew)
> 	First the most expensive thing in a tube amp is the transformer's.
> 	You need at least 2. The power supply transformer is probably going
> 	to run at least $100 to $180. The output transformer will probably
> 	run from $80 to $120 depending on the demand of the circuit.
> 
> I got a factory replacement Bassman output tx in 1983 for about $40.
> Source is Chicago Music.
> 
	The current year is 1992. I think MDS in Chicago wants about
	$117.00 for a bassman Xformer that will take a 2 ohm load.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thursday, 16 Apr 1992 14:08:34 EDT
From: <APL105@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: 50 Best Guitar Albums Poll
 <00T302tW10N601@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> <9852@bgsuvax.bgsu.edu>

joe w. is alright for your average guitarist.  but what's so special about him
??????
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: behm@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (BEHM CHRISTOPHER JOSEPH)
Subject: Re: CHORDS!!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:12:26 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.112522.23740@spider.co.uk> keitha@spider.co.uk (Keith Aitken) writes:
>
>How about the following chord?
>
>    E 3
>    B 3
>    G 0
>    D 2
>    A 2
>    E 0
>
>I would've called it E/G, but from the above, I guess that's wrong.

	Isn't this just a form of Em7 ?

				John Mastrangelo
				ice@ntia.its.bldr.nist.gov
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From: bigstar@milton.u.washington.edu (sleepy)
Subject: Re: Fender Mustang
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 18:27:59 GMT

ctso@wam.umd.edu (CT Shock) writes:

>Jeffery.A.Schneider@dartmouth.edu (Jeffery A. Schneider) writes:
>: I've got a student model Fender Mustang from Feb 1966 here and was
>: wondering what it's worth if anything?  I'd the the condition is "good"
>: to "very good".  Also what's the difference between it and other
>: Fenders (size, quality, etc)?  Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks.
>:
>The mustang was never regarded as highly as the other Fenders (Tele, strat, and
>Jaguar etc...) It's basically a strat with a strange set of Pickups in 
>different positions than on the strat. IMHO the bridge pickup is set too far
>forward, but then again... Anyway, because of this, the prices aren't nearly as
>good for them. Yours should be worth a little bit more if it is a '66, just

A few things to add...the Mustang is, IMHO, entirely different than a Strat.
The tremelo is different, the Mustang has a 3/4 neck whereas the Strat has a 
full 2-octave range, and the pickup selecter switches are entirely different
on the Mustang.  Incidentally, I have founf them very hard to replace.

I have used these things for years and love 'em to death..however, the price 
quoted previously of $400 - $600 is way too high. A pre-CBS in Mint condition
might fetch this at a collector's show (assuming the original case is also in 
Mint and the original tremelo bar is included.) I would put a realistic
selling price somewhere in the neighborhood of $175 - $275. 
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From: aash@ms.uky.edu (aash)
Subject: Re: Peter Gabriel "In Your Eyes" Tidbit
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 19:42:11 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Bytes: 

In article <1992Apr17.074537.3947@cco.caltech.edu> sergeb@cco.caltech.edu (Serge Justin Belongie) writes:
>Except for "Solsbury Hill," I have not been able to figure out any
>of Peter Gabriel's songs on guitar (I have an acoustic).  But I was
>thinking, you know that part in "In Your Eyes," 

try strumming  Bm - D - G using bar chords along with the song ("in your eyes")
and i believe it works.. must be close..

aash
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From: jepp@iesd.auc.dk (Jesper Petersen)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: where's alt.bass???!?!
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:55:58 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University


Hi everyone!

Has alt.bass been created? 
We haven't recieved it at Aalborg University as yet, and it's been a
while since people talked about it.
If it has been created, what can I do to recieve it?

regards,
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From: jamesb@nevada.edu (James Bender)
Subject: Re: How do they get that sound?
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:15:25 GMT


	Hey,

	I was watching the live Def Leppard video last night, and I was 
wondering how Phil gets those kinda "chirpy" sounds. He does it a lot, but
its most noticeable during the end solo for Women.
	Anybody know?


						James B
From: pkor@phoenix.oulu.fi (Pasi Korhonen)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: What so great about Martin guitar ?
Date: 11 Apr 92 18:46:37 GMT
Organization: Ripoff Industries

>SoSomebody mentioned the maple "bridge plate".  Were you talking about the
piece I just call the "bridge", which is on the outside of the top and
supports the saddle, or to the thin reinforcing piece that is on the inside 
of the top just underneath.  I could be easily be wrong, but I thought that


	bridge plate is the thin reinforcing piece that is on the inside
	of the top just underneath.

	Pasi
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From: larsb@mimsy.umd.edu (Lars Baekgaard)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Fender and CBS
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:44:51 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

Could somebody please tell me when Fender and CBS were separated? I
know that their 'marriage' started in the mid-sixties and that people
in general relate this to a decreasing quality although it is hard to
date the beginning of the down-period. Also, I would like to know if
you guys think that the down-period is over and if it is: when did it
stop and had it anything to do with the separation from CBS?

thanks - Lars


-- 
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larsb@cs.umd.edu
From: v201lrxa@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (BILL S. PRESTON, ESQ.)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: rockman
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:32:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

does anyone have antything *good* to say for the rockman? i
played through one once, and thought it was awesome. i'm
considering buying one, but have nothing but bad stuff about it.
if anyone has had good experiences with them, tell me. i'd like
to have as much info as possible, both good and bad, before i
actually lay down the bucks for it.

mike
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: timk@meaddata.com (Tim Klein)
Subject: Re: how to play 'ramble on' acoustic sections
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 13:20:47 GMT

In article <NLNqiB2w164w@messa.ocunix.on.ca>, jmd@messa.ocunix.on.ca (Matt Dumais) writes:
|> To this day though, I have never figured out the acoustic parts
|> of 'Ramble on' (as recorded).  Sure I can come up with something that 
|> I can sing along with but.....


"Ramble On" was transcribed in the January '91 issue of Guitar World,
along with "The Song Remains the Same".

===========================================================================
Timothy Klein                 I wish TV had a knob so you could turn up
timk@meaddata.com             the intelligence.  The one marked Brightness
...!uunet!meaddata!timk       doesn't work.      -- Gallagher

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From: julius@cco.caltech.edu (julius yang)
Subject: Re: Acoustic Guitar Pedal survey -HELP ME PLEASE!
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 22:45:55 GMT

Eric Shen writes about pricing a pedal to make electrics sound like acoustics.

Remember that if the pedal/rackmount costs too much, the usual player will
just buy the real thing!  Why simulate an acoustic when you can get the
natural sound?  If the processor will cost $1500 to simulate a Martin, why
not buy the Martin? 
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: gistim@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tim Raebig)
Subject: voice boxes
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:22:45 GMT

Has anyone played through a NEW Heil voice box?  Are they any good?  Are

these the same that Joe Walsh, Peter Frampton, and Richie Sambora used
  
or are those some expensive, custom pro-model?  Any info would
           
be very appreciated.   Thanks,  Tim
From: css1rs@ee.surrey.ac.uk (Russell Smithers)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Removing a tremilo arm?
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:40:05 GMT
Reply-To: css1rs@mcs.surrey.ac.uk
Organization: University of Surrey, Guildford, England

Is it possible to remove a tremilo arm setup from a guitar? what improvements
do you get with regards to the guitar staying in tune?

Also I will not be here until the 23rd so if oyu could mail me direct.

Happy Playing
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: smithl@marsh.cs.curtin.edu.au (Leigh Smith)
Subject: Classical Guitar Intonation help required
Summary: Help wanted with Classical Guitar intonation
Keywords: Intonation
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 15:26:45 GMT

Greetings All,

I'm having some intonation problems with my Classical Nylon Stringed
Guitar. Just changed the strings and now the B and G strings are nearly
half a semitone sharp when played at the twelveth fret. The other strings
when fretted at the twelveth are about 10 cents flat. My guess is I
moved the notched string brace at the bridge but attempting to move it
down (away from me when sitting) or up (towards me) seems to make no
difference to the tuning. Am I doing this right? Dumb question
really, but I've never known how to adjust the intonation and I don't
think I'm doing the right thing. The guitar is pretty decent quality
(TAMA TCa-8) and did not have any intonation problems before the
latest string change.

Any tips on setting the intonation would be *greatly* appreciated, and
for electric guitars also.

Please mail answers to leigh@psychok.DIALix.oz.au, rather than the address
above, I will post a summary.


Thanks in advance


Leigh Smith
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From: blumer@antioch.rtp.dg.com (Todd Blumer)
Subject: Easy playing
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 12:14:15 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, Research Triangle Park, NC

I realize this may be a simplistic question, and it may lead to a
continuation of the "buzzing frets" thread, but here goes anyway.
(I also started reading this group after much had been discussed on
the "buzzing frets" theme, so my apologies if this question is a repeat.)
Question: (finally!)
Why are some guitars easier to play than others?  I mean, some
require less "finger force" applied to the strings than others.
Is it the frets?  the difference in thickness of the neck?  Is there
an _inexpensive_ way to improve the "playability" of the instrument?

Also, no one responded to my question about the Suzuki W300D acoustic
guitar I posted last week.  Does anyone know anything about this
instrument?

adTHANKSvance.

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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: mlocey@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Locey)
Subject: Digitech RP-1
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:14:36 GMT



Has anyone out there had any experience, or even tried out one of
these new Digitech RP-1 pedal boards.  These things sound too good 
to be true.  If so, let me know.

M. Locey, OSU-WE
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: goodrich@lynx.larc.nasa.gov (Mike Goodrich)
Subject: Re: HELP BUYING FIRST ELECTRIC (SOLID BODY)
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 13:30:31 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.214222.13094@verdix.com>, bill@verdix.com (William Spencer) writes:
|> In article <92095.171920CXK134@psuvm.psu.edu> <CXK134@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
|> >I'm looking to buy my first solid body electric guitar and could use a little
|> >advice.  Right now I have an acoustic that I sort of taught myself to play
|> >it's not the greatest guitar in the world, but it serves its purpose).
|> >Anyhow, I'm just trying to find a decent guitar that I can have fun with.  I
|> >was looking at a Fender 'Squire Edition' Stratocaster for $200.  It was made in
|> >Korea.  Is this thing any good for what I'm planning to do with it? 
|> 
|> In general I recommend the low cost Fenders and possibly other name brands
|> (don't forget Peavey, much better now, even smaller ugly logos ;-) )
|> compared to the other cheap brands. They're at least solidly built. The neck on
|> my Bradley, by comparison, is so thin it's uncomfortable. There could be
|> exceptions, for example I wasn't impressed at all with the neck-body junction
|> on a Squier Precison Bass I looked at. Also, these guitars *will* require more
|> set-up and adjustment than most more expensive guitars.
|>


   Just to balance the discussion, I own a Bradley strat - and I love it.
   It has great warm tone, good action, all for $150.00 mail order (1984).
   For $35.00 I had a luthier set up the guitar for me - also highly
   recommended, nothing is more frustrating than an instrument with bad
   action and bad intonation.

 
|> >I doubt
|> >that I'll ever really be playing in a band with an audience, but I also don't
|> >want to spend money on a piece of garbage that won't last 2 years. 
|> 
|> Maybe, but don't dismiss cheap guitars. A lot of the $1000 things that 
|> are so popular sound like absolute crap without distortion.
|> 


   Two comments here: NEVER buy an instrument that does not have a GREAT
   straight sound. Also, use no effects for a good long while. You need
   to develope really good tone and very clean precise fingering. A GREAT
   clean sound is the basis for everything to follow. If you listen to some
   of the better players when they use no effects, you should notice how
   truly sweet they can make their instrument sound. Examples: Jimi Hendrix
   on "The Wind Cries Mary", Jimmy Page on "The Rain Song", etc.
  



...mike
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