HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: Q: upgrade on AA for honeymoon flight
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 04:34:15 GMT

san@mpd.tandem.com (Steve Sanderson) wrote: 
->So, I wanted to ask the nets combined knowledge for ideas on how we could
->upgrade to first class for our honeymoon.
->
->Any ideas?

cash always works; mileage usually works, too ... since you've flown on
AA for years and belonged to AAdvantage for so long, you probably have
some miles to cash in.

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From: sleight@blackbird.larc.nasa.gov (David W. Sleight)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: AMEX Student Vouchers on USAir
Date: 15 Oct 1992 18:49:28 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: world
Reply-To: sleight@blackbird.larc.nasa.gov (David W. Sleight)
NNTP-Posting-Host: cquad4.larc.nasa.gov

>BTW, AMEX will not be mailing out another set of coupons until January.  Their
>computer spits them out in batches a few times a year.  So if you think
>they've forgotten you, call them and bug them before then.

I got four vouchers (2 school year/2 summer) when I signed up in July .  How may vouchers
do they send you a year ?  Can I call and ask for more ?

David

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From: gl1@cec2.wustl.edu (Greg Lyon)
Subject: Re: El Al Disaster
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 06:17:19 GMT

In article <92281.220923IO11076@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> Naushad Hussain <IO11076@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
>List of Airlines that still fly the 747-200's:
>American???

   Nope, American no longer operates any 747s.... they had a few 747-SPs until
their MD-11s came on line.

   Also, don't forget TWA and Continental...

Greg


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From: krazykid@csa.bu.edu (Ernest Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Delta Frequent Flier Program info needed
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:05:50 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Boston University Computer Science Department


Could someone please mail me any information about this program??  I
had PanAm miles and heard that they have gotten transfered to Delta's.
I've mailed them to mail me about the program (how many miles it takes
to fly to different destanations), but I have moved several times
since then.  So I was wondering if anyone had any info on it over
here.  My e-mail address is krazykid@csa.bu.edu.  Thanks for any
information you have.  

Ernie
krazykid@csa.bu.edu
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From: Tihan.Seale@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Tihan Seale)
Subject: Waikiki, Hawaii vacation (6day/5night) forsale: $50
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:01:45 GMT


I have a number of vacation packages that are left over from a promotional
drawing of a local business. Since they will just go to waste if nobody
uses them I'm selling them off for $40 each to the first respondents.  

The vacation package includes 6 days and 5 nights accommodations in Waikiki,
Hawaii. Resorts vary but all are equivalent at least to a nice Holiday
Inn. You choose your arrival dates. 

Basically it's a certificate that's redeamable with Vacation Invitations, a
Georgia based travel agency. There is a $10 fee that goes to them when you
redeem it, so essentially you get 5 nights lodging in Hawaii for $50 total.
(Not bad at all.)

E-mail me at TIHAN.SEALE@BBS.OIT.UNC.EDU 



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From: woodside@maestro.mitre.org (Jim Woodside)
Subject: Re: Aircraft Age
Reply-To: woodside@maestro.mitre.org (Jim Woodside)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, Va
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:23:09 GMT

In article <138044@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV>, ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct4.092139.29854@ohare.Chicago.COM> kls@ohare.Chicago.COM (Karl Swartz) writes:
|> >In article <HROSE.92Sep28162927@rocza.eff.org> hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose) writes:
|> >>United is about "average" -- adding new 737s and 747s (plus 767s) while
|> >>phasing out their older stuff (no more United DC-8s :)
|> >
|> >Also boatloads of 757s (~60 delivered in two years, with 30 on order
|> >and 60 more on option), the first batch of which replaced those
|> >DC-8s -- is that a smile at them being gone?!  That hurts -- I miss
|> >them as I flew them a lot and they were problem the most comfortable
|> >single-aisle aircraft in United's fleet.
|> 
|> Maybe at one time they were so comfortable, but not lately.  The thing
|> that annoyed me the most when I flew in a UA DC-8 a couple of years
|> ago was that half the "window" seats did not have a window -- they
|> had a blank wall.  The DC-8's windows are spaced further apart than
|> on other, more modern, airliners.  I guess at one time the seats
|> were spaced equivalently, which means they were probably very comfortable.
|> But as someone who had to take a cross-country flight sitting next to
|> a wall, rather than the window I had expected, I was VERY disappointed.
|> 
|> Ed
|> ed@wente.llnl.gov
|> 
|> 

I flew from JFK to Europe on a DC-8 in a wall/window seat.  My seat was also
broken and wouldn't even go back at all.  The plane was packed solid so I
couldn't move.  How comfortable!!!
From: babu@wpi.WPI.EDU (Babu Gopalakrishnan)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: El Al Disaster
Date: 7 Oct 1992 22:49:57 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <10545@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> harold@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
>In <10525@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> bakker@cs.uq.oz.au (Paultje Bakker) writes:
>>I would be grateful for any further news. Which airlines still use
>>747-200's?
>QANTAS! I think they have a few. They have mostly upgraded to the 400's
>but still fly a few 200's

Lufthansa has some also.



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From: chohan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Harpal Chohan)
Subject: Re: AMEX Student Vouchers on USAir
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:01:39 GMT

In article <1bcdbkINNge8@tangelo.usc.edu> skoehler@tangelo.usc.edu (steffen koehler) writes:
>
>BTW, AMEX will not be mailing out another set of coupons until January.  Their
>computer spits them out in batches a few times a year.  So if you think
>they've forgotten you, call them and bug them before then.

Anyone have the phone no.?

-h
From: sandy47@cats.ucsc.edu ()
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Help with "jet lag"?
Date: 10 Oct 1992 04:17:13 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


I need to have some advice, please.  I am flying from SFO to Heathrow
via BA later this month (6:30PM takeoff) and need to understand what
would help me to minimize the effects of "jet lag".  I'm arriving about
noon on Saturday and need to be in "100%" condition for work Monday.  I'll
be coming back a week later with an afternoon takeoff and afternoon arrival
and will need to get recycled once more.

Any and all advice via email, please.  I don't want this "novice" topic
causing excess traffic on this group.  Thanks very much in advance.


				Larry

mack@mchome.santa-cruz.ca.us
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:25:55 EDT
From: <MWB6@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: managua

HAi there, is there anybody who knows about (cheap)flights to Managua, Nicaragu
a, schedule, price etc., from Washington DC or NewYork.  Thanks, Michael
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From: kls@ohare.Chicago.COM (Karl Swartz)
Subject: Re: El Al Disaster
Organization: Chicago Software Works
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:32:08 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.210124.18578@PA.dec.com> yip@wsl.dec.com (Michael Yip) writes:
>I don't think there is -300's freighters but they might still be 
>producing -200F's.    

Correct, there are no -300 freighters.  The -300 is simply a -200
(originally it was called a -200(EUD)) with an extended upper deck.
This adds some airframe weight (partially compensated by improved
aerodynamics) to gain additional seating.  There'd be no point in
having a freighter version, and in fact one cargo carrier (Cargolux)
tried to order the 747-400F without the extended upper deck.  Boeing
eventually declined to make the modification.

In any case, all current-production 747s, including freighters, are
-400 models.

 -- Karl
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From: pal@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de (Peter Loibl)
Subject: Re: El Al Disaster
Organization: Technical University of Munich, Germany
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 10:15:22 GMT

harold@cs.uq.oz.au (Andrew Wood) writes:

>In <10525@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> bakker@cs.uq.oz.au (Paultje Bakker) writes:

>>I would be grateful for any further news. Which airlines still use
>>747-200's?

>QANTAS! I think they have a few. They have mostly upgraded to the 400's
>but still fly a few 200's

There are lots of airlines around using the 747-200 (correct me, if I
am wrong):

British Airways
Lufthansa
Air France
Alitalia
Iberia
Olympic
KLM
Sabena
Air New Zealand
United
Continental
Air India
Thai
Aerolinas Argentians
South African Air

and some more

Peter Loibl
pal@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de
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From: yhliu@watson.ibm.com (Yew-Huey Liu)
Subject: Missing subject header
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 16:07:41 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
Keywords: Airline waiting list

Hi, does anyone have any experience on getting a ticket after being put
on the waiting list? I know it is probably very much depend on the demand and
the route you are flying. My question is "should all us three be on the 
waiting list separately or as a group?" What happen if there is one seat 
open, will the seat be given to one of us or to the next single person 
waiting after us?

To be more specific, we (2 adults and 1 kid) are on the waiting list from
Taiwan to Honolulu in earlier January. My travel agent told me it is the
golden travel season for Japanese to travel. And there is NO seat availble
on any flight from Japan to Honolulu. 

Any suggestion as to how could we get seat on the flight from Taiwan to 
Honolulu? (all the rest of the trip has been confirmed).

Thanks.

Elfrida (yhliu@watson.ibm.com)
From: yuan1@husc10.harvard.edu (Nina Yuan)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: USAir changed youth discount on shuttle
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:06:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc10.yuan1.718985177
Distribution: usa

simona@panix.com (Simona Nass) writes:

>Prior to end of Sept/early Oct, USAir had a discount for folks under 25
>traveling the shuttle (at least between NY/Boston, maybe also NY/DC). The
>age for the discount has now been lowered. It was either 60 or 65 one way.

What is the age cutoff now?

Incidentally, FYI Delta seems to now be offering a 4-pack (4 one-way
tickets) at $55 per ticket and an 8-pack at $50 per ticket for "youths"
and "seniors" on its Shuttle.  I haven't heard anything about changes
in the cutoff age though.

-nhy
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From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: Is Continental's freq. flier program a sham? 
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 04:45:46 GMT

chohan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Harpal Chohan) wrote: 
->Which prompts me to ask about other peoples experiences with
->Continental's frequent flier program. Last year I flew with them twice,
->using the Amex vouchers. Each time, I applied for their frequent flier
->program. 

this was your mistake; you apply only once and use the same
membership number.  if you call continental, they'll give you the
number of the OnePass service center, and you can get your number over
the phone.  you wouldn't get mileage unless your OnePass number were
recorded in the passenger record (or unless you forwarded copies of
your boarding passes and ticket receipt within a month of your
membership).

sounds like your postman goofed.  

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From: ncole@nyx.cs.du.edu (Noah Cole)
Subject: Re: Pan Am 747s
Organization: Macalester College, St. Paul Minnesota USA
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 18:09:42 GMT

gl1@cec2.wustl.edu (Greg Lyon) writes:

>In article <1992Oct10.132732.3793@cs.brown.edu> aap@cs.brown.edu (Andrea A. Pietracaprina) writes:
>>I was wondering:
>>
>>          Where did all the Pan Am 747s go? 
>>          Did Delta get them?
>>

>     Delta did not buy the Pan Am 747s, although they did purchase a number
>of A-310s and 727s from Pan Am.    

Delta uses the 310's on most of Pan Am's old European Routes.. as wekll as a few
US Routes that feed their old  Pan Am Routes (i.e routes to JFK).

I heard that the 747's wer dold, er rather sold to a foreign carrier

-Noah Cole
From: murthy@aslws01.asl.dl.nec.com (Vasudev Murthy)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Layover at Singapore - what does one do?
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:03:06 GMT
Organization: NEC America, Inc Irving TX


Hello, 
   I am flying on Singapore Airlines between Los
   Angeles and Calcutta via Singapore. I have a 7 hour
   layover (between 1.30 am and 9 am). What could I
   possibly see/do in Singapore other than just hanging
   out at the Airport? Sightseeing seems out of the
   question at those hours. I keep hearing about how
   inexpensive Electronic goods are in Singapore. Is
   there a store somewhere at or near the airport open
   at that time where I could look around for, say, a
   camera?

   How's the flight between LAX and Singapore and
   Singapore/Calcutta? What can I expect w.r.t food,
   service etc?

   Thanks in advance!

   Vasudev
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From: babu@wpi.WPI.EDU (Babu Gopalakrishnan)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: USAir and AMEX vouchers
Date: 13 Oct 92 01:58:57 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Is Continental's freq. flier program a sham? 
Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Keywords: 

In article <1992Oct12.205010.14719@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> chohan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Harpal Chohan) writes:
>
>Which prompts me to ask about other peoples experiences with
>Continental's frequent flier program. Last year I flew with them twice,
>using the Amex vouchers. Each time, I applied for their frequent flier
>program. I was told I'd get the membership in 2 months or so, and
>would get my mileage on it. The first time I was told this, I still
>hadn't gotten anything 4 months later when I used them again. So I 
>applied again when I was buying my second ticket. Same story.
>I'd get it in 2 months or so. Nada. Nothing. It's been a year.
>Haven't heard from them. Anyone been succesful with theirs?
>

I've flown on Continental, using Amex vouchers only.  During my first 
transfer at Nerwark, I went directly to a sales lady who looked a little
bored and asked her if I could apply for OnePass.  After filling out the
necessary stuff, she gave me a temporary OnePass card on the spot, and
I got all the days travel miles banked in my account.  Since then (about
1 1/2 years ago) I've already qualified for a 'Fly 3 Fly Free' bonus and
am approaching enough miles for another free flight soon.  I guess I was
just lucky to get my frequent flyer membership right away.

-- Babu
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From: gsinha@ccad.uiowa.edu (Gautam Sinha)
Subject: Any tips on Travelling with a 2 1/2 month old.
Organization: CAD-Research, University of Iowa, Iowa City
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:12:30 GMT

Hi Netters,
	I'm looking for any helpful tips in travelling with a 2- 1/2 month old
kid. 
	Anthing, which will keep him comfortable on a seemingly long flight (25 hours plus). 
	I thank you in advance, on behalf of the fellow passengers aboard
on that flight for helping them in having a comfortable flight.
:-)
Gautam


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From: joe@vifp.monash.edu.au (Joe Szakmary - Deputy EDP Manager)
Subject: Internal and International fares in Latin America
Originator: news@brain
Reply-To: joe@vifp.monash.edu.au
Organization: Victorian Institute of Forensic Pathology, Australia
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 06:23:56 GMT

Hi,
I'm interested in everything to do with flying in Latin America.

- Safety of airlines (i.e. do they always hammer the screws in?)
- Reliability of airlines (i.e. overbooking, overcharging, over anything)
- Prices
- Availability of tickets depending of the time of year
- High and low seasons
- Bargains
- Pitfalls
- Handy hints (i.e. take a parachute)

I'm planning to leave around March. I don't expect anyone to answer all the questions
so any single advice will be warmly appreciated.

Thank you,
Jo
From: dennis+@cs.cmu.edu (Dennis Grinberg)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: AMEX Student Vouchers on USAir
Date: 11 Oct 92 15:32:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.Bvyr5J.LL9.2
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

USAir accepted the old AMEX Student Continental vouchers which were
either $129 or $189 depending on where you wanted to fly.  Does anyone
know if they are going to be accepting the new vouchers?  (I forget
the details but it's something like either $189 or $249 depending
on when you fly.)  I called USAir and the person on the other end 
wasn't able to find the codes for the new vouchers.

This is important to know as the only reason I would ever want an
American Express card is for the vouchers.

Thanks,

Dennis
From: jordan@IMSI.COM (Jordan Hayes)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: El Al Disaster
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:56:05 GMT
Organization: Investment Management Services Inc., NYC

Someone asks:

	Which airlines still use 747-200's?

TWA sure has a bunch, along with a bunch more -131s ...

/jordan
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From: cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf)
Subject: Re: Best Timetables (US and Others)
Organization: /home/ludviga/cindy/.organization
	<1b7b7gINNi2i@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>
	<pavalin-131092092151@47.168.128.219> <sjones.718991219@cunews>
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:34:17

Local prejudice, i know, but the time table i find most convenient to
use is one that _all_ the airlines in Norway put out together, listing
all of their schedules in one booklet.  It's even amusing in a way:
there are lots of little island airports that one of the airlines,
Wideroe, serves, places you didn't even know people lived!
But the big convenience, of course, is that if you know you have to
be somewhere at a specific time, you don't have to shuffle around
with three different booklets to see which airline has the most
convenient flight for you.  It also lists full fare and the standard
discount fares in the back.  Only problem is, it's fairly useless to 
most tourists, as they only print it in Norwegian...

I wish this were possible for all countries, but i'd hate to see
the size of some of them.... imagine such a time table for the
United States....

-Cindy Kandolf
 cindy@solan.unit.no
 Trondheim, Norway


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From: joel@math.toronto.edu (Joel Chan)
Subject: Re: Closed Flights
Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 14:01:59 GMT

In article <1bavpmINNnr9@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> mathew@unixg.ubc.ca (Mathew B Englander) writes:
>Recently I was flying on a Canadian Airlines youth standby ticket from
>Vancouver to Toronto. I didn't get on the first two flights, and they
>said the next one wouldn't be for a couple of hours. However, I noticed
>another flight, CP12, leaving sooner. When I asked about it, they said
>it was only for Japanese passengers; it was some kind of connector flight
>for people flying from Tokyo to Toronto via Vancouver.
>
>They said they could not let me on it because to do so would run
>the risk of Canada Customs impounding the plane.
>
>Does anyone know the rationale for this? I would have thought that
>airlines should be able to fill empty seats on any flight.

Passengers are not allowed to take CP 12 or CP 8 from Vancouver to 
Toronto since those flights are considered international.  Canadian does
not allow passengers to board from Vancouver, that way passengers from
Hong Kong/Bangkok/Tokyo to Toronto clear customs at Toronto instead of
Vancouver.  If passengers to Toronto had to clear customs in Vancouver,
we'd have to retrieve our bags *twice*, and for passengers who carry
over 20kg of who-knows-what, it is a pain.
In other words, if you were on the plane from Vancouver, you would have
to clear Canadian customs at Toronto, which is silly.  In fact, in my
stopover in Vancouver from Hong Kong, we had to stay in a section of the
airport and were not allowed to leave the terminal building.  At least
the international section of terminal was recently renovated and looks
very nice.

Besides, Canadian Airlines makes muchos $$$ from its Asian routes and
almost every flight is like a Blue Jays game at the SkyDome.  Full.

Cheers!

Joel
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