From: @symphony.cc.purdue.edu (null pointer)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Behavior on Acid
Date: 21 Dec 92 14:15:11 GMT
Organization: Purdue UNiveniversityurdue UNiversityniversity

In article <1992Dec21.060115.24358@news.stolaf.edu> swainj@lofn1.acc.stolaf.edu (John Swain) writes:
>In article <Bz87sq.DK0@udecc.engr.udayton.edu> mmaryo@udecc.engr.udayton.edu (Michael J Maryo (U)) writes:
>>
>>I have never experimented with Acid (not to say that I wont, but it hasn't 
>>been available to me as of YET).  I noticed that someone mentioned that you
>>can trip without anyone noticing.
>
>With all of the gung-ho attitudes being exhibited throughout the net I think
>it is important to throw in a word of caution.  I have a friend who took two
>of consciousness.  Ideas of what reality is and what we are defined by(The 
>most recurring idea was being defined by the perceptions of other people around
>him) were discussed constantly.  His visual hallucinations were so strong that
>it was very very difficult for him to distinguish reality from fantasy and 
>things sometimes looked two-dimensional as if he was staring at a moving  
>one shoe that was a friend of his' which was actually quite funny at the time
>but kind of frightening to him).  He could not understand simple conversations
>(Or at least he *thought* he couldn't.  Later on, reflecting back on it he  
>realized that he understood the conversation but that he kept thinking of the
>he would never be able to function in normal society again and was afraid he 
>would lose his friends.  Later, when he was a little better oriented everything
>took on mammoth proportions.  About 8 people were in the house and he had a
>their wants, their desires, their fantasies, what molded them.  He became   
>incredibally passionate and had many thoughts of a group consciousness of the
>universe which every living being was part of.  He realized that the paranoia
>and things which people feel about other people are self-defeating and serve to
>keep people alone and had many other unusual thoughts.
>	None of this is incredibally horrible but he also had some nasty physical side affects including a feeling that all of his bones were molding together
>and a perception of his whole body as being very hard and brittle.  He also 
>visual hallucinations were sometimes terrifying.  He would see people's skin
>was too unreal to be real.  People were running from room to room for no 
>apparent reason(This really happened)and he was talking to people and       
>communicating with them at a level he never had before.  He had a delusion that
>he may have gone into a coma and was now just imagining all of reality and it
>had somehow experienced a remarkable change of consciousness.  
>	It is important to know that this guy is an experienced drug user(Lsd
>50+ times along with many bowls of pot) and is usually quite intelligent and
>logical.  I hope this points out some of the bad effects of LSD as well as 
>some of the good ones.  As an afternote I must point out that he had never 
>felt such violent shaking before(Just a few tremors)so it might have been
>the combination that made him so incapable.  He certainly could *not* have 
>passed himself off as normal.  Even people on good trips have some trouble
>talking to authority figures when they are on large doses(Forgetting what 
>you're going to say.  Not being able to find the right word and using a 
>different one.  Describing a hill as a "mountain" or "huge rocky thing" for
>instance).  Although his experience was not altogether pleasant he 
>recommends the Naked Lunch soundtrack for a good listening experience and
>Gregorian Chants as a nice thing to wake up to when you feel all drained and
>exhausted the next morning.

	Question:
Is this guy
	a) against acid and posting a severe misinterpretaion of a fairly
normal stong acid trip
	_OR_
	b) all for acid and being sarcastic about the idea of these things
being "BAD"?

	also: Does this guy know the difference between hallucinations and 
"bad physical side effects"

						Sean
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