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From: Dick.Peterson@f7.n3400.z1.fidonet.org (Dick Peterson)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
Subject: Computer App Projects
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 10:02:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3400/7 - The Russell Country, Hobson MT

I noticed your message asking for innovative ideas in making
spreadsheets, databases, and desktop publishing more exciting to
your students.  I am attempting to do more desktop publishing
this year with our Word Processing/Information Processing
students.  One idea that we will use is the planning and
development of a newsletter.  I am not really sure about the
topics, but the students will probably take ownership of this.  A
possible idea with databases could be to create a mailing list
for your school to use.  This might be awkward if your school is
large.  Ours is only about 120 students so it could work here. 
We plan to use WordPerfect 5.1 as a preliminary desktop
publishing tool since our students are familiar with this
software.  It has good desktop capabilities along with a limited
supply of graphics.  We also have Publish It, but will wait on
using it until later.  If you receive any good ideas, I'll be
monitoring this message area so that I can also see what other
people may have for ideas.  Good luck!

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From: Bingo.Lee@f2051.n147.z1.fidonet.org (Bingo Lee)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
Subject: MIDWAY
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:39:06 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:147/2051 - The O.U. BBS, Norman OK

If you know anything about the Battle of Midway, please write
<CR>


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From: Edward.Dunagin@f540.n226.z1.fidonet.org (Edward Dunagin)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.business
Subject: Master's Project
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 17:48:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/540 - The Tele-Forum Netw, Columbus OH

Hi again Jeff,

JS>  Thanks Ed.  I'll give it some thought.  Are you a business ed teacher?
JS>  Where are you calling from?

     I'm the Systems Director at The Tele-Forum  Network that provides
     New Albany's mail to and from the K12Net. Not a Business Ed
     Teacher.

Peace.................................Ed


 * SLMR 2.1a #1852 * HELP!!!! This computer is taking over my life!!!!



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From: Maureen.Martin@p0.f731.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Maureen Martin)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Need Mentorship
Date: 18 Nov 92 03:34:58 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/731.0 - Taft Middle School , Lincoln City OR

Thank you for allowing me to explore your BBS=Sysops.  It has been 
a very interesting few minutes.  I am very interested in your sysops 
on global and would like to "Learn More" about the "Creators" of this 
system and who "Owns it" ... whether or not you require "fees" for 
active, daily participations on line ... and if the "Major Leaguers" 
wearing "Mirrored Sun Glasses" and "Sporting Hawaiian Tans on Surfboards" 
would like to "Hang 10 with me" as their "Student" until I get aquainted 
here?
 
        Thank you for your time and response.
 
        Maureen Martin



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From: Doug.Dobie@f734.n153.z1.fidonet.org (Doug Dobie)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: LINKWAY FROM IBM
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 14:56:55 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:153/734 - ED-NET 9600, Vancouver BC

Purchase Linkway Live!! Just like HyperCard but buttons are touch screen
without needing a touch screen monitor


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From: Andrew.Lawson@f40.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Andrew Lawson)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: NZ what a great coun
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 23:33:06 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/40 - NZMC Gate 1, Auckland

KP>Howdy bud just running outa time here but a quick hello to
KP>a KIWI is always in order. I spent your last summer in your
KP>country traveling around from BLUFF to CAPE REAINGAthe WEST
KP>coast and Coramandle opps allmost out of time later eh?

Yes, do write later, always nice to hear from someone whos been here.
Did you enjoy NZ? Canada's always been a place I wanted to go, it seems
nice, do you like it there? How does it compare to NZ?
___
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From: Sharon.Napshin@p0.f126.n137.z1.fidonet.org (Sharon Napshin)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Hello
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 20:50:04 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:137/126.0 - Global Vision, Sarasota FL

I was looking through this echo and couldn't help, but say Hello.  You are looking for someone out of state and here I am saying hello from the other side of School Avenue.  This is the Media Center at Sarasota Middle School. Our Telecom Club has fingers crossed that you have good luck with your virtual reality project.



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From: Jim.Specht@f29.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Specht)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Hermes 2.0 BB
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 17:09:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/29 - The Catlin Gabel Sc, Portland OR

I'm running a Hermes 2.0 system on a Mac SE.  I've got it running 
and have a registration number to be legit.  My copy of Hermes seems 
unwilling to accept the registration number.  Is there some trick to 
getting it in?
Hermes will self destruct in 30 days unless this number gets in and 
I don't want to have to rebuild it.
I checked with the support board in Cal., but I'm not sure that 
they recognize what the problem is.
If you have any ideas to solve this, I'm open for answers.
-Jim Specht/ West Linn, Oregon

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From: James.Aitchison@p4.f85.n134.z1.fidonet.org (James Aitchison)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Virtual Reality demo software
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 22:40:28 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/85.4 - Western Canada DATA, Stavely Alta

Hi Gordon.....

18 Nov 92, Gordon Benedict writes to James Aitchison:

 GB>      Hi James,

 GB>      Are those demos available on Ted's BBS?  If not, how'd
 GB>      you like to upload them and I'll get Ted to pass them
 GB>      along to me.  I'll pass them along to others who might
 GB>      like to look at them.

 GB>      Gord

Hi Gord,

        I'll just check to make sure they are legitimate demos and get Ted to file attach them to you.  I believe they are since demo appears on the start up screens.  There are about 5 main demo programs.  Do you want them as a single large archive or should I split them up into Virtual1.arj, Virtual2...?

Chow for now ....

James.....


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From: Andrew.Lawson@f40.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Andrew Lawson)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: msgs here lately?
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 23:32:04 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/40 - NZMC Gate 1, Auckland

FO>Interesting -- do alot of countries have rugby teams to compete on
FO>the world champion level?  I know we don't (since we have football
FO>and are so big on that) but many other counties might opt for
FO>rugby and there may be alot of counties involved... I wonder if
FO>Japan has it...
America was at the last World Cup, and they didn't do so good. Australia
won last time, we won the time before. England and that area is quite
good, as is France. USA, Canada and Japan are emerging well. It is a
very exciting game, I find it a lot more exciting than American
Football, it is always moving, they dont stop everytime they get the
ball etc.

FO>Well I guess the distance isn't so much a factor for the Japanese
FO>and even for the Europeans it's closer than it would be for
FO>Americans...
Actually, USA is far closer than Europe, not closer than Japan though.
We get a lot of Japanese, and they are beginning to buy up large parts
of the country. We get quite a few Americans, and heaps of Scandanavians
and Germans. We have a very diverse range of scenery for our small area.

FO>Sounds lovely... sort of like the Islands here minus the tropical
FO>aspect.
Yes, its not so hot, and probably a little colder in the winter.
Remember, we are an island nation (big islands :-)

FO>Our humidity is high too-- especially in the summer.  We had an
FO>African visiting once during a heat wave and he said our heat was
FO>worse than in his country because of the humidity.
We get that to, humidity makes heat hotter, and the cold a lot colder.

FO>A little exposure is nice, and for those with an interest, more...
I hear its actually been getting a lot better here in the last year, a
lot more schools with PC's.

FO>Hmmm, never heard of it...were they similar in price and setup (to
FO>the C-64)?
BBC's were slightly more expensive than C-64's, and although different,
they catered for the same market.
___
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From: Steve.Larson@p0.f10.n3402.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Larson)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Practical Spreadsheets
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 23:32:58 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3402/10.0 - Westwood High Schoo, Ft McMurray AB

In a message <15 Nov 92  11:15:04> to <Steve Larson> about <Practical Spreadsheets>,
Terry Bowden wrote:

 TB> I had a problem with my daughter (so what's new?) - she used to earn
 TB> a little money doing a "paper run" - she went door-to-door collecting
 TB> payments for a newspaper. She had to keep track of all payments, add

 TB> The moral of the story is this:
 TB> +----------------------------------------------------------------+
 TB> | Choose a spreadsheet application that is relevant to the user. |
 TB> +----------------------------------------------------------------+
 TB> If you can give enough information about the types of problems that
 TB> might prove useful to the children, and let them come out with
 TB> examples that fit their own requirements, then you are on to a winner.

Thanks, Terry!  It has always been my experience that kids tend to learn
those things that are important to THEM!

Regards,
Steve

... Give Terry Bowden a cigar!

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From: Ian.Howard@f16.n258.z2.fidonet.org (Ian Howard)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: BUSINESS ED. PROJECT
Date: 14 Nov 92 15:55:00 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 2:258/16 - Teenage Retreat (23, Littleborough

Hi Gary!

On Monday November 09 1992, Gary Davis wrote a message to Ian Howard:

 GD> .... I was in England in June, showing some people a simulator of
 GD> a small business. It is "played" on a computer something like a game,
 GD> but the user also learns from it (which is true of many games, too, of
 GD> course).

Sounds a most interesting piece of software.  Could you possibly give me some more in-depth details about the package and some pointers as to exactly what sort of hardware it runs on.

 GD> I just wondered if you thought it would be of interest in
 GD> your school.

Well I will talk to the appropiate people and see what they have to think of the idea, I am sure they will be most interested as I am.  Anyway if you could get back to me with more details I would be most grateful :-)

-- Ian.


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From: John.Feltham@f706.n640.z3.fidonet.org (John Feltham)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Zone3 New Logo!
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 10:25:18 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/706 - Coral Sea, Townsville Qld Australia

G'day Terry,

Sunday November 15 1992 11:15, Terry Bowden wrote to John Feltham:

 > I am hopping that you might regard this as a slight improvement
 > on your logo - giving new dimensions to the ooroo, and a couple
 > of pretty little slashes representing the main islands. :-)

Thanks for your suggestion.... not too sure about the main island bit though. :-)

New Zone 3 logo below. Must change the Golded file....

       _--|\
      /     \       ooroo
      \.--._/   \
           v    /


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From: Zita.Podany@p12.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Zita Podany)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: COMPUTER APP. IDEAS
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 09:27:57 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.12 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

In a message of <Oct 23 11:55>, Bruce Rehmer (1:280/333@fidonet.org) writes: 

BR> 1)  Does anyone have some meaningful activities the 
 BR>students
 BR>could partake in while learning these applications?
What grade level?

 BR>        2)  Does anyone use or know of a desktop publishing 
 BR>package in
 BR>mind that is low in cost, is easy to learn, yet covers most of 
 BR>the main
 
Publish It Easy! comes to mind.



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From: Daniel.Stevens@p0.f51.n140.z1.fidonet.org (Daniel Stevens)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: APPLE IIe BASIC
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 23:33:02 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:140/51.0 - SaskTel P.A.C.M.I.D, Prince Albert Sask

Hi, I'm 14 and in Jr High (Grade 9) in Prince Albert, Sask, Can.  I was wondering if thier was any point in us learning APPLE BASIC at school. We are doing that this year, but I don't know why.  APPLE computers are sort of dying out.  Is it the same BASIC as used on the APPLE MACS?  If it's the same as that, I understand it might have a use, but if not. It's just a waste of all our time.
 
I think my school should get new computer... :)  Like Amiga 3000 or IBM P5 (586) when they come out.....
 
Daniel Stevens  --  Zaphod Beeblebrox



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From: Becky.Ferreira@p0.f25.n137.z1.fidonet.org (Becky Ferreira)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Computer Education
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 12:05:16 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:137/25.0 - The Back Door, Venice FL

we're back ! We're still trapped in this computer! Is anyone going to help us?  We are learning desktop publishing.  Will anyone please help us to better understand this program.  If anyone knows anything about desktop publishing please leave us a message.
 
Thank you
 
Holly, Elroy, and Karen 


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From: Terry.Bowden@f20.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Terry Bowden)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Logo Oz Style
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 11:15:12 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/20 - IBM NZ Ltd Gate, Auckland

John,

JF>       _--|\
JF>      / Kang\ooroo
JF>      \.--._/    \
JF>           v     /
JF>
I am hopping that you might regard this as a slight improvement
on your logo - giving new dimensions to the ooroo, and a couple
of pretty little slashes representing the main islands. :-)
___
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From: Ron.Decanio@p0.f25.n137.z1.fidonet.org (Ron Decanio)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: bus prog
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 12:01:37 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:137/25.0 - The Back Door, Venice FL

 
Steve,
 
What's up?  What kinds of programs have you worked with?  What kind of computer do you use?  We all use IBM PC.  What have you worked as far as modem use?  We have worked with Turbo Pascal, WordPerfect, Lotus 123, WordStar, MicroSoft word.  Please write us back with some responses and questions you may have.  Thanks.
 
 
          Ron, Tim, Aaron



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From: Bob.Koreis@p0.f118.n138.z1.fidonet.org (Bob Koreis)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: msgs here lately?
Date: 15 Nov 92 23:10:27 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:138/118.0 - Keithley Komputer K, Tacoma WA

Oh, Fran, we certainly DO have a national rugby team.  Their nickname is the Eagles (what else).  They are always being featured in some small or large way in the Land's End catalog.  Unfortunately, virtually all of their games are played out of country. 


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From: Bernie.Doyle@p15.f455.n770.z3.fidonet.org (Bernie Doyle)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: using computers in the computer ro
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 12:54:09 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:770/455.15 - 45 South, Oamaru

In a message of <15-Nov-92 11:53:25> from: Elizabeth Probert (3:772/20)
to: John Feltham <14 Nov 92  16:21:26>                 

> Thanks for your reply. It is so hard to get into our computer room
> that I would like to be able to take some to my classroom sometimes
> for a period or so - I don't always need to have the whole class
> working on the computer at the same time.

If its any use to you -here in St Kevin's College, Oamaru, New Zealand, we
have two computer rooms in use.

The first (called loosely a 'Wordprocessing/Spreadsheeting room) has a
class set of Mac II's and Classics and needs to be booked for regular
classes, but there are many gaps for casual occupation. These can be booked
as little as a day before required. This room's machines are networked and
the room has the necessary equipment for projection from an SE 30 to OHP.

The second room, under the jurisdiction of the Librarian, is equipped with
the 'specialist' computer equipment required by other departments in the
school. (CDRom,Laser Disk, A3 VDU, Plotter, Colour PS Printers, A4 flatbed
Scanner and half a dozen LCii's). This room cannot be reserved for a class
use except by arrangement with the Librarian. We have the services of some
Access course computer trainees who are quite willing to assist in
instructing pupils to operate the equipment, and to supervise in place of
the teacher. This means that these computers and programmes are available
to individual students or small groups as and when they need them.
Individual machines can be removed from this room by a teacher for
classroom instruction.

In addition we have a class set of laptops which can be reserved for one
period as required.

Individual teachers take their own machines into class to expose the
students to other types of hardware and software. I, for instance, work
with the Amiga for Graphics and Design, and for next term the machine will
be able to emulate the Macintosh and IBM, using their specific software and
the Amiga's graphics capabilities.

Hope this is of some use.


Cheers,

Bernie



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From: Jeff.La.Cross@p0.f25.n137.z1.fidonet.org (Jeff La Cross)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: ASSIGNMENT BBS
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 12:48:25 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:137/25.0 - The Back Door, Venice FL

HI PATTY THIS IS A REPLY TO THE ASSIGNMENT TO SEND YOU A MESSAGE. PLEASE SEND ME A REPLY SOON. LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU.



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From: Andrew.Davie@f17.n347.z1.fidonet.org (Andrew Davie)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Dreams in Greek Literature
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:38:24 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:347/17 - Compulink Northwest, Boise Id

I'm writing a paper on the use of dreams in ancient Greek literature, particularly The Iliad and The Odyssey.  If you have any thoughts, comments, or suggestions, please drop me a line.  I'd really appreciate it!!  ----------------->Andy


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From: Steve.Larson@p0.f10.n3402.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Larson)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: RE: national computer standards
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 23:19:43 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3402/10.0 - Westwood High Schoo, Ft McMurray AB

 * Originally By: Gary Cressman
 * Originally To: David Webb
 * Originally Re: RE: national computer standards
 * Original Area: K12Net Teacher Chat Area
 * Forwarded by : Steve Larson (K12net Zone 1 Computer Literacy Moderator)

Dear Dennis,

I read your message about computer literacy standards. I am going to be
teaching a computer class to in a Master's Degree program and plan to use  this
as one of the topics. Have you had any responses to your request, and if so,
would you be willing to share these results?  I saw in a later  message you
posted that you want to suggest some standards that are more extensive than are
being used. What are those suggestions?

Thank you,
Gary Cressman

-!- Tabby 2.2
 ! Origin: Auburn Ed-Net, Auburn WA (206-931-4821)   (1:343/80)



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From: Ian.Howard@f16.n258.z2.fidonet.org (Ian Howard)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Hello
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 18:42:01 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 2:258/16 - Teenage Retreat (23, Littleborough

Hi David!

On Sunday November 15 1992, David Pedwell wrote a message to Ian Howard:

 DP> I am writing to you just to say hi and ask if you know of any
 DP> primary schools or teachers in England using K12Net who might
 DP> like to exchange letters with some year six (11 yr olds) in
 DP> Australia.

Well at the moment I am involved in two pilot schemes at my school to allow students to talk to people from all over the world as part of their school day. However the system (2:258/17) is not receiving a good mail feed at the moment so I cannot overload the system.  After X-mas we will be able to correspond with your children as much as you wish but unfortunately we cannot right at the moment - I shall note down your name and get back to you in the future.

As for other schools; well we are one of only three schools in Britain at the moment to have any sort of FidoNet/K12 system and at the moment myself and RIk Lister (2:258/14 & 15) are trying to encourage more schools to become involved. Our target is to set-up 50 new schools receiving K12 (And others) by the end of next year - as you can appreciate this is one hell of a target.

 DP> What part of England are you from ?

Little village called Littleborough which is 4 miles away from Rochdale, which in turn is about 20 miles from Manchester.

Best regards - I hope I will hear from you in the future.
-- Ian.


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From: James.Aitchison@p4.f85.n134.z1.fidonet.org (James Aitchison)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Project
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 23:15:14 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/85.4 - Western Canada DATA, Stavely Alta

Hi Laurie.....

09 Nov 92, Laurie Rubinstein writes to All And Everybody:

 LR> We are three students in a buisness ed class at Sarasota High school, in
 LR> Florida.  We are interested in doing a research type project on virtual
 LR> reality.  Requirements for this project require us to work with some other
 LR> people from outside of this state.  If anybody would be interested in
 LR> helping us out it would be greatly appreciated.

 LR> Thanks a bunch...
 LR>                     Laurie, Dan, and Richie

I've just been investigating virtual reality myself.  I have some book titles and even some demo software for IBM compatibles you might be interested in. Let me know.


Chow for now ....

James.....


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