HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Friday, 17 Apr 1992 09:09:02 EDT
From: Abner Mintz <AXM113@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: VE HAFF SURVEYS UFF MAEKING DU TALK!

Tizrak waves for attention for a second.

"Four years ago, before the election, I did a survey for my own curiousity.
I'd like to repeat that survey here (the previous one was not in callahans).
Anyone who has the time, please send me you answers to the below by email at
axm113@psuvm.psu.edu    (just replying to this post should do).

1)  Who would you most like to have elected president in 1992?
    Some possible answers are:
    Jerry Brown
    Pat Buchanan
    George Bush
    Bill Clinton
    Mario Cuomo
    David Duke
    Eugene McCarthy
    ? Perot
    Paul Tsongas

If your #1 choice is not on this list, just write them in.

2)  Who do you think will be the final candidates in the election (any party,
    or independant.

3)  Who do you think is most likely to be our next president?
    (Realistically, not wishful thinking.)

I will post the results when answers stop coming in at an appreciable rate.
Names will not be used, and your replies will not be saved in any file.
The above will not be contributed to any organization with my permission.
And frankly, if they came asking me about commies in 10 years, I'll tell them
the truth: that I forgot who sent what within a week of the posting!
This survey is for my own curiosity only.
Question 4) Is this enough legalism to choke a horse?
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Subject: Re: Capital punishment (was Re: abortion)
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 06:46:13 GMT

In article <OLSON.92Apr16083932@husc8.harvard.edu>, olson@husc8.harvard.edu (Chip Olson) writes:
>>>"I don't have my statistics handy, but I believe TX and FL fired up their
>>>electric chairs immediately after the Supreme Court relegalized the death
>>>penalty in '76 (?), and their murder rates haven't exactly plummeted since
>>>then.
>
>>Totally irrelevent.  They execute only a small fraction of the murderers
>>convicted in either state.  Unless you can name a state in which the murder
>>rate HAS plummeted since then?
>
>Um, so what are you arguing?  All I'm saying is that the reintroduction of
>the death penalty hasn't served as a deterrent to crime, even in the states
>that use it the most enthusiastically.  

It sounded to me like you were claiming that the death penalty actually
increased the murder rate (you [or someone else; not enough context to tell]
pointed out that those states that have used the death penalty have among the
highest murder rates).  I was merely pointing out that the direction of
causation is not obvious.

>>>Our judicial system is far from perfect, and there will always be unfor-
>>>tunates who fall through the cracks."
>>
>>And our penal system is far from perfect:  There will always be a few convicts
>>who are (either intentionally or unintentionally) released back into society. 
>
>Agreed.  In the case of less serious offenders, that's part of the point.  

And in the case of the serious offenders, it's an argument in favor of making
certain that they can't continue their crimes if they get loose.  The death
penalty is one way to do this.
From: aralph@cix.compulink.co.uk (Alan Ralph)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: A long-overdue post from MonTemplar (Yikes!)
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:17:21 GMT
Reply-To: Alan Ralph <aralph@cix.compulink.co.uk>
Organization: Gated to News by demon.co.uk

(I would have done this last week, but I had to get through a glut of
Usenet stuff, plus the latest issue of Quanta landed in my email-box.
Hence the length of this article. -Alan)

MonTemplar stomps into the Place, sporting several days stubble and a wool
jumper in place of the usual leather jacket (Brr! It's cold outside!)

"Tea please, Mike" he says, tossing over a gold coin. Once he has his mits
around the pint mug of the steaming beverage, he moves a chair over to the
fireplace and settles down to warm his bones.

"In case any of you haven't heard, the General Election in Britain is
entering the final furlong - polling day is this Thursday." *slurp!* "It
looks like we'll be left with a hung Parliament come Friday, with none of
the three main parties (Conservatives (current Govt.), Labour and Liberal
Democrats) having a majority of the seats." *slurp!* "If that is the case,
the biggest party can either try and do a deal with other parties, or try
and go it alone, in which case there will be a second election in the
autumn if the other parties vote down the subsequent Queen's Speech."

"I'll be glad when the Election is over - the last few weeks I've been
bombarded with news coverage and analysis wherever I turn." *slurp!*
"Virtually every other news story has been pushed to the sidelines - I've
no idea now what's happening with the US campaign trails, for instance. Is
Clinton still going?" *slurp!*

"An important note to all you UK Callahanians - REMEMBER TO GO AND CAST
YOUR VOTE ON THURSDAY!! If there's one thing that'll guarantee a fourth
term for the Conservatives, it's apathy on the part of the British
people."

MonTemplar gulps down the last of his tea, and put the mug down on the
floor.

"Right, that's the serious bit dealt with.... now onto other matters."

"Firstly, a message for Nicki... do remember to call me sometime about the
photos from the UK RealSpace. In case you've mislaid it, my number is
(0923) 230097. Ok?"

"Secondly, thanks to Danger Mouse for his comments on the story I posted
here a few weeks ago. I'll arrange for the various characters to come in
and do some proper introductions in future posts."

"And finally.... a bit YO! to Balrog and any other new peeps who came in
while I was gone... sorry I didn't get to greet y'all earlier."

"Peace!"

And with that MonTemplar settles back for a quick forty winks, before
setting off to the meadow to join in the picnic.... *yawn*


Alan Ralph <-> Kimberley MonTemplar
Nuff said!
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: Dr. Asimov
Keywords: Death, Renescance Men, etc.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: world,local
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:37:59 GMT

In <1992Apr7.043823.9961@midway.uchicago.edu> moh2@quads.uchicago.edu (Kateri/Mary Anne) writes:


>"Dammit."

>Kateri reads  the posts on Asimov's death with a feeling of bitter loss...
>not to mention that somehow she had missed that Clarke had died (he wrote
>some of the most beautiful books on the country I was born in...).

>"Asimov, Clarke, Heinlein, Roddenberry, Seuss, Jim Henson...I feel as if
>my childhood was dying before me..."

>And tears roll silently down her face to the confusion of those sitting
>around her in the computer room.

kitten puts an arm around kateri and hugs her, hard....

"but, kateri...when did clarke die...i hadn't heard that."
--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 

"kittens today are not properly trained--the way that they were when
victoria reigned." asparagus (gus: the theatre cat)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Subject: Re: Isaac Asimov
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 10:10:21 GMT

In article <9204080111.AA09179@premise.prime.com.>, mdm@PREMISE.PRIME.COM (Michael McAfee) writes:
>		During Boston University's 150th anniversary, there 
>	was a series of discussions on several topics.  Dr. Asimov
>	(who held an honorary professorship of biology at BU, I believe) 
>	spoke at one about science and the future.  Before the panel 
>	started, he talked to fans and signed things for them.

It was, I think, in chemistry, and there wasn't anything honorary about it,
except for the fact that BU decided to allow Asimov to retain the professorship
while delivering only one lecture per year.  It was, if I understand things
correctly, more of a premature professorship emeritus.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Alfvaen)
Subject: Re: introduction and picnic
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:11:51 GMT

Michael McAfee writes
> 		"Um, hi folks.  My name is Michael, and I'm from the
> 	Boston area.  As you can see, magic is possible in my world, as 
> 	it seems to be on others.  I'm not sure what else I should tell,
> 	so I'll tell as the need arises."
> 
> 		Over to the chalkboard.  Name: Michael, birthday: July 
> 	14 (Bastille Day), favorite drink: well-proportioned hot 
> 	chocolate (winter) or soft drink on the rocks (summer).

Alfvaen waves.  "Hey, Michael!  Guess who's another Bastille Kid!"  He  
grins.  "Guess the guillotine's waiting for us, eh?"
--

---Alfvaen(and no, this isn't my real name!)
Canadian Network For Space Research, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
If you stand on your head, you will get footprints in your hair.
Current Album--X:Ain't Love Grand
 "There's a big, ugly city out there."
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: pope@physics.su.OZ.AU (Michael Pope)
Subject: Re: A new wizard.
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 00:25:55 GMT

>In article <1992Apr9.154603.28424@cs.rose-hulman.edu> lindercs@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU writes:
>>
>>	Galadin is enjoying his Jambalaya when he senses the presence of some
>>great magic entering the bar.  Curious, Galadin gets up and walks over to the
>>doors back into the bar.  Opening the door, he sees a new person walk into the
>>bar.  Galadin kinda smiles at himself when he sees the attire of this new
>>person.  He likes a person who appreciates fine clothes and staffs, but the hat
>>is a bit overdone.  He then watches as the figure introduces himself.  Ah, The
>>Wizard, I would guess that he is fairly well versed in the magic.  
>>	Galadin then watches the Wizard set down the crystal ball and leave his
>>challenge.  This has really gotten Galadin curious.  He walks over to the ball
>>and looks into it.  He then starts whispering all of the schools of magic that
>>he can think of.  "Sorcerer, no don't think so,  Conjurer, well, except for
>>the ball I didn't see him conjure anything, Theurgist, doesn't look the type,
>>Illusionist," Galadin taps the ball, "no seems real to me, hmmm, Divinationist,
>>that is what we need, someone to see the future, and the crystal ball is their
>>item of choice, but I don't think so, an Evoker, well, didn't see him control
>>any energies but who knows.  Boy, this may take some work, wish he left a
>>little more clues to work with."
>>	With this Galadin goes back out to the meadow, but this challenge is
>>still in the back of his mind.

The ball, apparently reacts to being poked about, perhaps it is ticklish?,
and begins to hum and glow a faint blue.  The sound of flutes and mandolins can
be heard, and a voice, not altogether unfamiliar can be heard to say,

"Of magic ways there are many, yet commons aims they may have.  How things are
done are not always as important as what they do.  Thus is the secret of my  
craft.  What is my magic for............."

And then all is silent from that magic globe......

Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: abortion
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 13:40:57 GMT


kitten has been following this thread with half an eye...not fair, i
know, is i think i am the one who threw it out in the first
place....but she decides she has to jump in again.

> 
>CD whistles softly. The topic is not an easy one to discuss 
>rationally, but so far, no one has gone off the handle.  CD is 
>suitably impressed.

"i think it is because we are in callahans..."
 
[  lots deleted...although good arguments]
> 

>CD sighs deeply.  "Abortion...  My opinions on this one were 
>forged by the issue staring me in the face a few years back.  
>You are correct.  It was not an easy decision, the reasons for 
>which are nobody's business save our own.  We have both 
>discussed the experience with others since," CD's eyes sparkle
>with determination, "but we have to justify ourselves to no one."

"some decisions require no justification, being none of anybody else's
business "
 
>"I can understand why people are so sharply divided on the 
>issue.  There are a lot of people who are around today because 
>their parents chose to not have an abortion.  And society is a 

"i _personally_ am the result of failed birth control.  i am glad to
be here and i think my mothere is glad, too.  but that is not the
point.  the point is that there are some women around who can not,
will not make the same decision my mother made.  and it must be their
choice." 
 
>"I am suspicious about people who try to make my decisions for
>me.  People who, for some reason, seem to believe that they 
>are more qualified to say how I should live my life than I.  
> 
>"Live your own life.  Do what you like, but don't expect 
>me to conform to your beliefs.  Try to force me, and proceed
>at your own peril.
> 

"this is the statement i must applaud the most."

[   ]

kitten turns to cd.  "may i buy you a drink.  it is refreshing to hear
what you have to say....it means i didn't have to say it....thanks."





--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 

"kittens today are not properly trained--the way that they were when
victoria reigned." asparagus (gus: the theatre cat)
From: eesshlgb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (S H L G Bisson)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Crackle, crackle, buzz, hum
Date: 15 Apr 92 08:50:20 GMT
Organization: School of Electrical Engineering, University of Bath, UK

Outside the bar DM's party carries on, whilst Ignatz climbs high on the
crags around the meadow. Meanwhile, hidden in a fractal cornwer, a radio
crackles to life...

"Well y'all, this is Radio Free Colorado, once more with the Right On,
Write In Request Show. And this one's from an Ignatz Mouse, somewhere in
England, and he wants to hear a Genesis track...

"So here it is, `Fading Lights', from the album `We Can't Dance', Genesis!"

The lights in the bar seem to dim as low chords fill the air, and Phil
Collin's voice sounds clear above Tony Bank's keyboard.

	Another time it might have been so different
	if only we could do it all again
	but now it's just another fading memory
	out of focus, though the outline still remains

	Far away, away, fading distant lights
	leaving us all behind, lost in a changing world
	and you know that these are the days of our lives
	remember

	Like the story that we we wish was never ending
	We know sometime we must reach the final page
	still we carry on just pretending
	that there'll always be another day to go

	Far away, away, fading distant lights
	leaving us all behind, lost in a changing world
	and you know that these are the days of our lives
	remember

	Another chance hello, another goodbye
	and so many things we'll never see again
	days of life that seemed so unimportant
	seem to matter and to count much later on

	Far away, away, fading distant lights
	leaving us all behind, lost in a changing world
	and you know that these are the days of our lives
	remember

The music fades away.

"That was for everyone he's ever met. There's a message too,

"Nothing is lost. Nothing is forgotten. It was in the blood, the flesh.
And now it is forever."

The words of Radio Free Colorado crackle and fade away into the distance
as the sun rises over Callahans Place.

---
Ignatz Mouse/Simon H Le G Bisson...net.jerriais,sf-bibliophile,climber
----
From: aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Dr. Asimov
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:28:26 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

In article <167C82F50.MTURN01@ricevm1.rice.edu> MTURN01@ricevm1.rice.edu (Turner, Martha Axler) writes:
>
>Emter grins from her coner of the meadow. "Bear, my friend, I should
>probably admit at this point that I've read a good part of the bible
>in the original Hebrew. I still need the translation to understand it
>all, but I can read Torah. (Aahz, you want to explain that one or should
>I? :) ) Maybe we could share the honors?"

After you, my dear Alphonse....
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Why is this newsgroup different from all other newsgroups?
From: seawasp+@pitt.edu (Ryk E Spoor)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Dr. Asimov
Keywords: Death, Renescance Men, etc.
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:17:35 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Apr7.043823.9961@midway.uchicago.edu> moh2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>"Dammit."
>Kateri reads  the posts on Asimov's death with a feeling of bitter loss...
>not to mention that somehow she had missed that Clarke had died (he wrote
>some of the most beautiful books on the country I was born in...).

	The Sea Wasp looks up, along with Fritz. On both faces, even the
metallic skull-face of the Terminator MK XX, is shock and disbelief.

	"Asimov ... DEAD? B...Bakana!  I was sure he'd outlive ME! He
seemed so... indestructible, somehow, even more eternal than Heinlein.
And I seem also to have missed the death of Clarke! Is this true? Are
NONE of the Great Three with us anymore?"

	He shimmers out from the picnic, materializes in the great common
room of Callahan's, and raises his glass.

	"To Isaac Asimov. To the man who created the term psychohistory;
who made a Galactic Empire and a Foundation. To the man who took the simple
idea of the mechanical man and made ROBOTS into virtually his own creation,
who formed a logic for their very existence which is almost inescapable
today (see ST:TNG's Data: "...Asimov's dream of a positronic robot..."  
and ALIENS' Bishop: "I cannot harm, nor by inaction allow to be harmed,
a human being.")
	"To the Writer, who ceased not for writing until his body could no
longer serve him. To the man who wrote over four hundred books and innumerable
articles, on almost every conceivable subject, who informed the world more
than any other single man in this century.
	"To a man who loved his fans, who almost never tired of speaking
to them, who was gracious even in quick notes.
	"To Isaac Asimov. If there is an afterlife, let's hope they have
word processors. Because there are about to be several new additions to
the Bible, the Koran, ..."

			****  CRASH!!  ****


					Sea Wasp
From: aralph@cix.compulink.co.uk (Alan Ralph)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: A question that's been buggin' our household for ages....
Date: 10 Apr 92 04:15:03 GMT
Reply-To: Alan Ralph <aralph@cix.compulink.co.uk>
Organization: Gated to News by demon.co.uk

You know the cartoon "Stop The Pigeon"?

You know, as in "Don't just stand there Mutley, DO SOMETHING!!!"

Well, I've got a problem....

I can remember Dick Dastardly and Mutley, and Clunk the guy who designs
the planes and makes silly sounds between each sentence....

BUT what's the name of the guy who hides inside his oversize coat whenever
a dangerous mission is announced?

Inquiring minds... blah blah blah.

And YES, you can have a medal, but it'll have to be a ascii picture.
Sorry.

Alan Ralph <-> Kimberley MonTemplar
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: youngj4@aix02.ecs.rpi.edu (Jeffrey Young)
Subject: Re: Isaac Asimov
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 05:18:23 GMT

Taldin makes his way to the chalkline, after finishing
his drink.  Doffs his floppy hat, which sports a long
pheasant's feather as well as a bright blue one (courtesy
of one of my con=going companions) ...


"To Issac Asimov.  I never knew ye, but you were a respected
name in the hearts of all.  Thank you for speaking at my 
graduation.. and may the stars receive thee in the way you
always dreamed them so...."

(hurl)

>>>>>>CRASH!!!!!!<<<<

Taldin finds his way to his seat, and sits quietly in silence.

Taldin The Blue Unicorn
<< And Sudrith the Blue Dragon. >>

-- 
TTTTT AA    LL DDDD   II   II NN      "I don't believe in a religion
   TT  AA   LL DD  D  II   II NNNN      that doesn't believe in me."
  TT  AAAA  LL DD   D   II II NN NN        Taldin The Blue Unicorn
 TT  AA  AA LL DDDDDD IIIIII  NN  NN          youngj4@pawl.rpi.edu
From: erikred@ocf.berkeley.edu (Erik Nielsen)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Potstickers
Date: 7 Apr 92 03:56:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.rr6gqINN84c
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: ocf.berkeley.edu

In article <9204021542.AA11030@cipric.mn.org> jmh@cipric.mn.org (Janet M. Huss) writes:
}    Moments later, she returns, bearing a large pot.  Tendrils of steam
}sneak up from the slightly dislodged cover she is trying to keep from 
}falling.  Someone jumps up to help her.  A few others sniff the air; 
}someone successfully identifies: "Potstickers!"
}    "I'm hoping to have dinner with a dragon," she comments with a 
}grin.  "Birith has a weak spot for these.  Then, afterwards, I think
}I'm for a game of story poker.  Any takers?"

	"Ye gads!" bellows the giant, "I remember the last time we had
potstickers here!  Save me some before they disappear!"  He races up to her
and holds out his plate, and thanks her for the treat.  "Mmm," he mumbles
through a mouthful of delicious potstickers, "Dese ur dem goot!"  He washes
them down with some mead, left over from March Crown.  "Ah!  Those hit the
spot.
	"Now, where was I?  Oh, yes, trying to get my head back on
straight!  I'll swing by for more when I figure out how to get my stuff
together...."

Special Thanks to:
}The Grey Lady (a.k.a. The Gray Lady)
}jmh@cipric.mn.org


Erik, the BFG
-- 
     "All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain."
			Roy, _Blade Runner_
Erik Nielsen					erikred@ocf.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: pierce@navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce)
Subject: oops Re: steel bars
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-27973]: spop.navo.navy.mil
Reply-To: pierce@navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce)
Organization: POPS Operations
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 00:50:41 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.142203.17176@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski) writes:
|> In <1992Apr12.052933.23563@cs.tulane.edu> pierce@navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce) writes:
|> >    " 'Bar-Bar Anne ! Bar-Bar Anne ! A rocking and a rolling
|> >    Bar-bar Anne !' Yes folks, that was the Beach Boys down on
|> >  the beach singing their hit 'Bar-Bar Anne !' " NickD. the DJ :-)  
|> >-- 
|> 
|> "THAT'S NOT FUNNY" splutters kitten, who is Real Life (tm) will answer
|> to the name Barbara Ann and who has been suffering from variations of
|> this song for YEARS....:)
|> --

      "oops. Sorry kitten, how about a hug ?"

      >HUG<
-- 
     pierce@navo.navy.mil  Jim Pierce aka Nick D.
    "I want a new duck...." Weird Al Yankovic