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From: ask@cbnews.cb.att.com (Arthur S. Kamlet)
Subject: Re: more of ...can of worms....
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories,  Columbus, Ohio
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 22:03:50 GMT

In article <57490@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:
>
>In the Torah, God states, "Let us reason together."

Actually, Isaiah 1:18

(Lyndon Johnson borrowed that phrase too, but by "reason" he meant
 knock some heads together.)
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From: gertler@ptms_dev.sbi.com (User - Don Gertler)
Subject: Re: The Term Galut
Originator: scj@israel.nysernet.org
Reply-To: <gertler@ptms_dev.sbi.com (User - Don Gertler)>
Organization: Nysernet
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:35:44 GMT

MASH@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL (Michael Shimshoni) writes:
	Perhaps  the term  "reish  galuta" (the  head of  the
	galut) used for the "nassi" (president?) of the Jews in Babel might be
	better.

I realize that we (all) pronounce it "reish galuta" or "reish galusa"
when we learn, but in proper Aramiac, shouldn't it be "reish galvata,"
as we usually pronounce it in Yekum Purkan on Shabbat.

-Don Gertler
From: murray.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Tanya
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:32:26 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton

The Tanya, as posted, is a NEW translation and has not yet been 
published. Accordingly, the many that have worked so diligently on this 
translation appreciate all the feedback possible to assist them in any 
possible revisions.
We have received some excellent critiques and welcome as many as 
possible.
Thank you
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
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From: hayim@locus.com (Hayim Hendeles)
Subject: Re: Violent antisemitism?
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 17:39:10 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.123907.25044@funet.fi> defee@tukkasotka.tut.fi (Irek Defee) writes:
>In article <matthew.715515431@mugga> matthew@stats.mu.oz.au (Maciek Blasikiewicz) writes:
>>hayim@locus.com (Hayim Hendeles) writes:
>>>...
>>>Poland was violently Anti-Semetic, 
>>>Hayim Hendeles
>>What sort of history classes would YOU recommend I go to. I'm really
>>eager to learn the TRUTH. Thanks in advance for any pointers.
>>MB
>
>I doubt if Mr. Handeles can serve for any recommendation in this matter. 
>
>It is a basic historical fact that over centuries Jews were moving to 
>Poland from all over Europe b e c a u s e  of  v i o l e n t antisemitism
>This was the reason why Jewish population in Poland was so numerous as
>reaching 10% of population before WWII. And this was the reason why 
>Jewish population in Western Europe diminished to relatively low 
>numbers (in Warsaw alone there were more Jews living before WWII 
>than in the whole France). Obviously, when Jews were expelled from 
>e.g. Spain five centuries ago, or were prohibited to enter, e.g.
>Scandinavia until the mid XIX century, or were being forced to 
>convert/assimilate in other places, antisemitism in these lands was
>nonexistent afterwards ;-). 
>
>Using Mr. Handeles logic and style of accusations, one could say that 
>let Poland applied the others' "solutions", there would be no grounds 
>for the present discussion. Fortunately, one averts this style of thinking 
>by knowing that Jews moving to Poland were accepted there as  
>r e f u g e e s from oppression. and as such they were given safe heaven,
>an admirable gesture of humanly behavior. Nobody was then expelling them, 
>nobody was forcing them to change their skin, they were living through
>centuries developing their own culture, language, and religion, a separate,
>isolated and mostly highly orthodox, society. Was there any other such place?
>
>
>-- 

Your description of Poland is absolutely fascinating. Unfortunately,
this bears little resemblance to the Poland my Father came from.

My Father was born and raised in Poland, and left in November, 1939
after the start of World War 2 --- as an adult. HE was there the
entire time between WW 1 and WW 2. From his descriptions, and
the many stories he has told me, Poland was violently anti-Semitic.

Thus, if I have a choice of believing my Father, or the History classes
you attended, I will believe my Father. You may, of course, choose
to believe whomever you want. 

Hayim Hendeles
From: murray.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Alter Rebbe?
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:38:10 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton

I am not positive as to why he is called the Alter Rebbe, but the word 
Alter means Elder or Old (my yiddish isn't the greatest either).  Since 
he is the first Lubavitcher Rebbe, I guess why he earned that name. 
I never thought to ask before, and I never saw a reason given.
 
The name "Alter Rebbe" became "attached" to Rabbi Schneur Zalman of 
Liadi, the first Rebbe of the Chabad-Lubavitch Chasidim, after the 
Tzemach Tzedek - Rabbi Menachem Mendel of Lubavitch, The Alter Rebbe's 
grandson became the third Rebbe of the Chabad-Lubavitcher Chasidim.
 
A bit of history for clarity.
 
Rabbi Schneur Zalman of Liadi, a direct descendent of the Maharal of 
Prague, was one of the students of the Magid of Mezritch - Rabbi DovBer, 
who was the successor to the Baal Shem Tov, the founder of Chasidut.
 
In 1767 Rabbi Schneur Zalman accepted the position of Magid of Liozna. 
In 1772 he founded the Chabad Chasidic Philosophy. In 1797 the Tanya 
was first printed.
 
During the Napolean war in the winter of 1812 he passed away. His 
son Rabbi DovBer took over the mantle of leadership. In 1816-17 the 
Mitteler Rebbe - Rabbi DovBer also established a Chabad-Lubavitch Yishuv 
- Community in Hebron, Israel. (He remained in Russia.)
 
Rabbi DovBer He is known as the Mitteler Rebbe, because he is the 
Rebbe between Rabbi Schneur Zalman of Liadi and the Tzemach Tzedek, 
(the 3rd Rebbe) thus he was "in the middle".
 
Rabbi DovBer passed away in 1826 and the Tzemach Tzedek took over the 
mantle of leadership of the Chabad Chasidic movement.
 
The Tzemach Tzedek (Rabbi Menachem Mendel of Lubavitch) was a grandson 
of the Alter Rebbe, by his daughter, the Rebitzen Devorah Leah, and was 
married to one of the daughters of Rabbi DovBer.
 
Hopefully this clarifies the reason for the name the "Alter Rebbe" and 
the Mitteler Rebbe. The 3rd Rebbe - is known as the Tzemach Tzedek, the 
same name his famous works "responsa" known as the Tzemach Tzedek.
 
The 4th Rebbe is known as the Rebbe MaHaRaSH - Morenu Horav Shmuel - 
who was the youngest of the Tzemach Tzedek's sons. The 5th Rebbe is known 

as the Rebbe RaShaB - Rabbi Shalom DovBer, also called the 
Rebbe Nishmaso Eden, called this way, because, he was the father of the 
previous Rebbe -  Rabbi Yosef Yitzchak (the 6th Rebbe). Rabbi Yosef 
Yitzchok is also called "The Frier-diker Rebbe - translated as "the 
previous Rebbe", who is the predecessor of the Lubavitcher Rebbe Shlita.
 
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From: rubinoff@linc.cis.upenn.edu (Robert Rubinoff)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: YOM KIPUR & TU B'AV
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:00:34 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <5497@shum.huji.ac.il> aplebaum@shum.huji.ac.il (Hillel Applebaum) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.135435.24551@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>, jgoldber@todah.chem.utoronto.ca (Joel Goldberg) writes:
>|>    Of course, that's not a complete picture. Yom Kippur is one of the
>|>    two happiest days of the (Jewish) year. Moreover, it is when maidens
>|>    go out to the vinyards, to dance in borrowed white dresses
>|>    and invite the unmarried men to choose bride.
>This is most likely a mistake. We all know the saing that there weren't 
>happier days in Israel then YOM KIPUR and 15 of AV etc. But since it's
>very unlikely that fasting girls will go dancing and boys that shuold be 
>davening would go there too.

No, it's not a mistake.  On Yom Kippur afternoon, after the high priest emerged
from the inner chamber of the Temple, there would be dancing and match-making
among the unmarried young men and women (separate dancing, I believe).  In
fact, that's why the Yom Kippur afternoon Torah reading is the section
describing forbidden sexual relations: to remind everyone who was off-limits
to them so they wouldn't mistakenly arrange a forbidden marriage.  (I doubt
this really had much practical use, but it was symbolically valid.)

   Robert
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Facts and Opinions: Insights on American Jewish Thinking(?)
From: dcs@witsend.tnet.com (D. C. Sessions)
Date: 26 Aug 92 03:32:00 GMT
 <1992Aug23.061838.14163@intacc.uucp> <BtGDv4.2tM@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Organization: Nobody but me -- really
X-Mailer: TMail version 1.04

In <BtGDv4.2tM@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)  wrote:
# This may be relevant for a law code.  But even if the original laws were
# in a different language, translations can be used.  But I repeat that I
# do not consider Judaism primarily a law code; it is what is behind the
# laws which counts.                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  Which is what?  Are you sure?  For instance, what is 'behind' the
  law of shatnez?  Is kashrut a primitive health code, obsoleted by
  improved food technology?

  These are inferences.  Using the same reasoning, my son THOUGHT he
  knew why I told him to stay in the car with the door closed.
  Since he knew that that reason didn't apply, he got out when the
  car was moving, fell down, and I ran over his legs.  (Don't worry;
  he was only somewhat bruised, explaning which I leave to the reader.)
  On later consideration it appears that he misunderstood my reasoning.
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From: weiner@theory.lcs.mit.edu (Merril Weiner)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: mailing list
Date: 27 Aug 92 00:57:39 GMT
Reply-To: weiner@MEDG.UUCP (Merril Weiner)
Organization: Laboratory for Computer Science, MIT

Good Evening!

It's been a while since I've been on the net.  If I remember correctly, there
is a mailing list for Halachic discussions.  Could somebody please inform me
where the listserver is?  Thanks.





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Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: billg@bony1.bony.com (Bill Gripp)
Subject: Re: Egg Creams (was Re: Proof of the Decline and Fall)
Organization: LA&W RR
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 17:28:35 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.152606.7428@bony1.bony.com> stevef@bony1.bony.com (Steve Faiwiszewski) writes:

>How about just taking some Canfield's Diet Fudge Soda and adding some
>milk to it? ;-)

Actually, I prefer Dr Brown's Creme...  =B^]


Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: jgoldber@todah.chem.utoronto.ca (Joel Goldberg)
Subject: Re: Woody and Soon Yi
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:56:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.050334.19254@sarah.albany.edu> mark@fenris.albany.edu (Mark Steinberger) writes:
>In article <5479@shum.huji.ac.il> aplebaum@shum.huji.ac.il (Hillel Applebaum) writes:
>>First, I'd like to see Woody convert ...
>>(he doesn't act/talk like a jew)
>Only in that one scene in Annie Hall. :-)
   That scene is only a recodification. Referring back to the original
 sources, we find the original scene in "Take the Money and Run" where
 the jailed Allen character turns into a Rabbi.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: sethr@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (seth.r.rosenthal)
Subject: Re: Nazi camps
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:27:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.180513.1357@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal) writes:
> In article <1992Aug25.171215.13718@src.umd.edu> josip@src.umd.edu
> (Josip Loncaric) writes:
> 
> >In article <66791@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU
> >(BERNSTEIN,AVRON P) writes:
> 
> >>....  What many people
> >>seem to either ignore or be simply ignorant about is just how many Poles were
> >>exterminated by the Nazis as well.  
> 
> >  On August 22, 1939, [Adolf Hitler] allegedly announced to his generals:
> 
> quote describing Genghis Kahn's legacy , deleted.
> 
> >This threat had eventually caused an enormous death toll among Poles,
> >which simply cannot be ignored in any historical analysis.
> 
> What I find most amazing about this sort of Polish apologetic is that
> it makes the Poles look worse than had they just admited that the Jews
> were the Nazis' target.  By saying Poles were the intended victim, they
> portray themselves as evil+stupid because of their collaboration in the
> Nazi's antisemitism while they themselves were allegedly getting
> victimized. In an ironic sort of way, it makes their victimization
> appear as a divine punishment.


I really think this is all a little bit unfair.  Unquestionably
there was Polish anti-semitism (over 1,000 Jews were murdered
by Poles after the liberation of Poland 1945-46), but there
were also many Poles who saved Jews, and many Poles who got
to hang next to the Jews they were trying to save.

My cousin's wife's (Jewish) mother was deported twice,
she was running guns into the Warsaw ghetto.  In both
cases she was working with the Resistance in Aryan Warsaw
and was able to escape to continue her work.  We should all
have seen the story of the Polish sewer worker in Lwow who saved
a family in the sewers, and there are many other such stories.

In my own view, the Poles were ambivalent.  Mostly they
didn't have the courage to risk their own lives for
Jews, but there were some who did and suffered for it,
some who did and got away with it, and some
who collaborated with the Nazis.  The collaboration was
much higher among Romanians, Hungarians, Ukrainians, Lithuanians
than it was among Poles.

		Seth Rosenthal


Disclaimer: All opinions' are my own not my employers'.
From: murray.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Month of Elul
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:25:02 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton

Nachman Ross
The Month of Elul
 
   The  month of  Elul   is the  month of reckoning.   In  the material
world, if a  businessman is to  conduct his  affairs properly and  with
great profit, he must  periodically take an accounting and  correct any
deficiencies...   Likewise  in  the  spiritual  avoda of  serving  G-d.
Throughout the year  all Israel  are occupied with  Torah, mitzvos  and
(developing and  expressing) good  traits.   The month  of Elul is  the
month  of  reckoning,  when  every  Jew,  each  commensurate  with  his
abilities,  whether  scholar  or  businessman, must  make  an  accurate
accounting in his soul of everything that occurred in the course of the
year.  Each  must know  the good qualities  in his service  of G-d  and
strengthen them; he must also be  aware of the deficiencies in  himself
and  in his  service,  and  correct  these.    Through  this  excellent
preparation,  one  merits  a  good  and  sweet  year,  materially   and
spiritually.
(Hayom Yom, Menachem Av 27)
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
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From: sethr@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (seth.r.rosenthal)
Subject: Re: Auschvitz and $$$ & The Ontario Press Council
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:29:51 GMT

In article <95361@bu.edu>, simon1@bass.bu.edu (Simon Streltsov) writes:
> Let me get into Polish/Jewish discussiion ( I am Jewish
> to avoid misunderstanding):
> 
> My understanding is, that almost the only [significant] 
> body, which tried to give out information about murders
> of Jews in Poland was Polish Government in Exile.
> The story I heard, that one of the American Jewish Leaders
> said [ to a Pole ?], who gave him the info :
> " I CAN NOT beleive you". ( not that "I dont beleive you").
> 
> I am no scholar and would appeciate references pro and contra
> this statement.
> 
> Please, don't flame me ( as if it can help (-:[).
> 

I believe it was Felix Frankfurter, then Supreme Court justice
and a confidant of F.D.R. who went with Rabbi Steven Wise
and Jan Karski the Polish Government's courier into Poland,
who had been sneaked into Aushwitz, took some photos from
the barracks and then out again.

I believe Frankfurter said "Its not that I don't believe you,
it is that I can't believe you."  Meaning what he had heard
was beyond his ability to comprehend.  Roosevelt was supposed
to have said that (paraphrasing) the Jews of Europe would
be best helped by a quick victory in the war, and their deaths
would be avenged by swift justice after the war.  I must admit
there are so many killers, collaborators, ex-Nazis around the
world still today, that I guess he didn't understand.

		Seth Rosenthal

Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: jgoldber@todah.chem.utoronto.ca (Joel Goldberg)
Subject: Re: more of ...can of worms....
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:43:43 GMT

In article <BtLqFq.JrI@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:
>In article <17eihqINN1sb@agate.berkeley.edu> schultz@garnet.berkeley.edu (Richard Schultz) writes:
>>How do you explain the numerous places where it says "vaydabber adonai el
>>moshe leimor"?  Or, for that matter, "v'zot hatorah asher sam moshe lifnei
>>b'nai yisrael *al pi adonai* b'yad moshe"?
>
>As for the latter, I do not believe that this appears in the Torah itself.
   Yes and no. The first part, up to yisrael, is from D'varim 4:44. The
   remainder from Bamidbar 9:23.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: allen@golem.ssc.gov (Michael Allen)
Subject: Re: more of ...can of worms....
Reply-To: allen@ssc.gov
Organization: SSC Laboratory, Dallas, TX
	<1992Aug26.184343.3724@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>
	<ALLEN.92Aug26163215@golem.ssc.gov>
	<1992Aug26.230544.18406@cbnews.cb.att.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:15:45 GMT

>>>>> On Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:05:44 GMT, ask@cbnews.cb.att.com (Arthur S. Kamlet) said:

In article <1992Aug26.230544.18406@cbnews.cb.att.com> ask@cbnews.cb.att.com (Arthur S. Kamlet) writes:

Arthur> In article <ALLEN.92Aug26163215@golem.ssc.gov> allen@ssc.gov writes:
>
>Further, "Vaydaber Hashem el Moshe Leimor" is often followed by "daber

Arthur> I thought from this we learn that Vayadaber is Hashem's first name :^)

Ah yes, the infinite depth of learning contained in our Torah.  And
where do we learn that HaShem takes `X' when He plays tic-tac-toe with
the Jewish people?  As it says: "HaShem O's leamoh ytein".
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From: kkniaz@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Krzysztof W. Kniaz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Auschvitz and $$$ & The Ontario Press Council
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:01:16 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Aug27.120314.9728@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal) writes:
>In article <87079@netnews.upenn.edu> kkniaz@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
>(Krzysztof W. Kniaz) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Aug26.123152.28125@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
>>saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal) writes:
>
>>>During the war, I beleive there would have been far fewer Polish Jews in
>>                                                 ^^^^^^^^^
>>          Has anyone ever estimated that? Whould you give us some numbers
>>(or sources)?
>
>Using typical revisionist tactics, you took this out of context.  All I
>said was that had there been no Poles helping the Nazis far fewer Polish
>Jews would have been murdered.  Compare the percentage Jewish population
>in Poland and in Denmark and "far" becomes very conservative.

My dear Samuel, why do you have to label me as a "revisionist"?, and why
do you think I use any "tactics"? I was simply asking about sources, literature
ect.. for your statement. Now I don't understand this comparison between
Poland and Denmark. Whould you elaborate on that?

BTW, you did not answer my question about the only survived commander
of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising.

Chris



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