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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject: Re: Hi8 editing?
Date: 7 Oct 92 01:46:23 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <BvnzIH.IsD.1@cs.cmu.edu> barbk+@EDRC.CMU.EDU (Barbara Katzenberg) writes:
<In my organization we are using Hi8 as an acquisition medium. We
<collect data on video as a part of our user studies, and
<next assemble "highlight" tapes for our clients. We have done
<this in a "klugey" way using a simple software editing system that
<drives both the Hi8 deck (we're just using our EVO9100 in VTR mode) 
<and a S-VHS machine for the master. Now we'd like to start doing
<some proper editing, e.g., doing inserts, voice overs, and 
<particularly want to get the "feel" of editing that you get
<from a proper hardware set-up. Does anyone know any of the following
<things:
<
<Can we do this all in Hi8 yet? 
<
<Is there such a thing as an editor that would talk to Hi8 as master 
<and S-VHS as slave?
<
<Should we forget trying to edit with our Hi8's and dub down
<immediately to S-VHS?
<
<What is a decent, not too expensive S-VHS editor?  

Check out the Sony EVO-9700 Hi8 dual transport desktop editing system.
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From: habs@panix.com (Harry Shapiro)
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject: 16mm -> video (ELMO CCD Lens - ANy Good?)
Summary: Any options on the ELMO CCD lens
Keywords: elmo ccd 16mm video transfer
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:18:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: panix.1992Oct16.181856.24819
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

A few weeks back I posted about transfering film to video.

From the replies, it appears the the "flying spot" method of
film transfer is best. I have not been yet able to locate
a retail service in Manhattan that uses this process.

I have found one (Spectra) that uses a CCD lens on a film
projector (made by a company called ELMO. From what I
gather the film is projected into the lens and it is "captured"
by a CCD device in the lens.

Does anyone know how good this is?

Does anyone know anyone in the manhattan area that uses the flying spot
"equipment/scanner/device/technique"?

Harry Shapiro


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Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: sebert@andy.bgsu.edu (K.A. Sebert)
Subject: Video Walls
Keywords: Video Walls
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:19:54 GMT

Well here is the mail that came in about the video walls. Hope this
helps some one else on the net.

Kim
sebert@andy.bgsu.edu
From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan)
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject: Re: S-VHS editing setup
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:49:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvtJ2J.LKy
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


In article <1992Oct8.162649.5981@muddcs.claremont.edu> nrossi@jarthur.claremont.edu (Nick Rossi) writes:
>
>Our school is looking to set up an S-VHS editing system.  We have a
>Sony SLV-R5 and a Panasonic AG-450 camcorder.  I was all prepared to
>recommend a Futurevideo Pro-Mark II for the controller, when I started
>to get the picture that the AG-450 doesn't have a port for connection
>to a controller.  Is this true?

You're absolutely right, the AG-450 lacks the 5-pin controller jack.

>Is the AG-450 incapable of being a source deck for an edit controller?

That's right. You COULD use the R5 as the source deck and the AG-450
as the recorder, but that's far from the optimal solution. You really
should use the camcorder ONLY for acquisition; the transport in a
camcorder is not as heavy-duty as that in a standard tabletop VCR (since
the camcorder must be light weight). The stress of editing will wear out
the camcorder's mechanicals much faster than you would like, leading to
expensive repairs much sooner than necessary. You're better off with two
tabletop VCRs for editing and keeping the camcorder solely for
acquisition, IMHO.

>(i.e. should the school have bought an AG-460 instead?)

Well, a 460 would have been a better choice in terms of acquisition
quality, but if you're satisfied with the 450's picture quality, for the same
price as an AG-460 you can get an AG-450 *and* an AG-1960. The 1960 is a MUCH
better source deck, especially when used with the FV controllers.

In case you're wondering, I have an AG-450, an AG-1960, and an SLV-R5,
along with a FutureVideo edit controller hooked up to my computer
running EDL software.
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: RSIMISTE@130.187.170.178 (ROGER SIMISTER)
Subject: Used Equip Sources
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:06:15 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.11


There has been some comments on the board as to where to buy used
video equipment. Here are a few sources that I know:

	"TV Technology" is a free monthly publication that has
	several pages devoted to classified ads for used equip.
	Free subscriptions are available to professional broadcasting
	and audio-visual users.  (703) 998-7600

	Composite Video / Hi Tech Trading.  Talk to Joe Reinhart or
	Bill. They are reliable traders in video equipment. They
	maintain a data base of used "pro" video equipment. If you need
	something it is likely they can find it for you in a matter
	of hours. Also ask for their Hi-Tech Bulletin. (813) 546-6407

	"Wedding Videographer Today" is a monthly publication ($55.00
	a year). It has a classified section devoted to used pro/
	consumer equipment. Although this pub cost money, it's well
	worth it. The "Video Insider" section focuses on equipment
	and techniques all of us can afford. This is the place to look
	for used high-end consumer or industrial equipment, including
	toasters.  (301) 869-6878

Roger Simister


Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: tls@solbourne.com (Tom Schreur)
Subject: Re: Hi8 editing?
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:30:45 GMT

[Much deleted]
>  The 9700 signal is stable enough to be used through the Toaster unTBCed
>  but it does not synch it to anything else.  If you want to do A/B rolls
>  with a Toaster, you still need a TBC capable of slaving one of the decks
>  to the other.  We have used a Sony V5000 and a 9700 together through a
>  Toaster with one TBC, genlocking the V5000 to the 9700 A deck.
>     			 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>  Jon Rosen
>
I didn't know the V5000 was genlockable, could you explain further?

tls

tls@solbourne.com
From: claire@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Claire Sheppard)
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject: New Macintoshes and Video
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:04:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: ut-emx.81244
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: claire@daisy.cc.utexas.edu


	I read this newsgroup rather sporadically, so I am not sure if anyone 
has discussed this yet:

	1.  Does anyone have any information on the new Macingtosh
IIvx or IIvi? They supposedly support 24 bit color and are intended to be 
multimedia machines. 
	2. Also, about two weeks or so ago, I asked if anyone had any
 suggestions for Mac based software/hardware for video editing purposes. If
there were any posts in response, I'm sorry but none reached our machine. 

Thanks in Advance.

Claire Sheppard
From: bender@oobleck (Duke of Canterbury)
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject: Re: Another VideoToaster question
Date: 12 Oct 1992 23:16:07 GMT
Organization: SPARK's R US
Reply-To: bender@oobleck.eng.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: oobleck
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

emarsh@hernes-sun.Eng.Sun.COM (Eric Marsh) writes:
: In article <67461@cup.portal.com> Chris_Lynn_Minshall@cup.portal.com writes:
: >The Video Toaster will never run on anything but an Amiga......EVER!  If
: >Newtek releases another version for say the Macintosh or IBM.....it will be
: >partly an Amiga which will be an interesting legal situation if/when that day
: >ever sees light.
: 
: Funny, but in a recent magazine's product summery I saw a Video
: Toaster for both the Mac and PC. There were no prices listed, so I
: assumed that these are soon to be released products.

They are really an Amiga 2000 with the Amiga logo covered over and connected
to the PC or Mac through a serial port (SCSI port soon to be available or is
available).  The PC/Mac runs the switcher interface, but you still use the
Amiga's screen for things like Lightwave and ToasterPaint.

mike

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Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: streeter@cs.unca.edu (Tom Streeter)
Subject: Re: S-VHS Connectors
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:27:14 GMT

The original request expired at my site a long time ago, but if I recall
correctly, the person was looking for a console-mount S-VHS connector.
If you haven't found what you're looking for, try calling Comprehensive
Video Supply at 1-800-526-0242.

If you've already found what you're looking for (or tried these folks
already)......[best Gilda Radner impression]......never mind..........

--Tom




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Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: entpph@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: RGB to NTSC convertor
Reply-To: entpph@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 13:52:51 GMT

The December issue of Radio Electronics had an article with plans, part
list, and circuit board diagram for an RGB to NTSC converter using
the Motorola MC1377.

The article offered to sell kits for 29.95 or the PC only for $10.00
from: RGB, 32 Wilson Avenue, Trumbull, CT 06611.  203 374-7634.

Mind you, this is three years old, but if you can't access the magazine
or the above address and phone number aren't working, send me a
self-addressed envelope with 58 cents postage and I will send you
a photocopy of the article.

Oh, sorry, December 1989.

Erik Timmerman
Film/Video Department
RIT
Rochester, NY  14623-0887
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: jfr@RedBrick.COM ()
Subject: Re: Hi8 editing?
Organization: Red Brick Systems, Los Gatos, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:27:10 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.174307.1051@ils.nwu.edu> tsui@ils.nwu.edu writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.155425.2519@wam.umd.edu> bladin@wam.umd.edu (Ilana J.
>Getz) writes:
>[much stuff inquiring about Hi-8 editting]
>[response about the 9700]
>I just read somewhere (I think it was VIDEO TOASTER USER, a great magazine even
>for non-Toasterheads) that Toshiba (I think) will be releasing a clone of the
>Sony 9700 at a much cheaper price.  I have a feeling that Sony will probably
>come out with newer version.

  This is great news.  A 9700-like machine for $2995 would be a
  huge breakthrough and given the state of prosumer video use,
  would probably attract a LOT of customers.  A few things
  (in case the Toshiba folks happen to be lurking :-): 

    1. either scratch the awful char-generator or put in a GOOD
       one (the Videonics titlemaker integrated in would be great!)

    2. Add VISCA or Ctl-L control so you can add a PC front-end
       instead of using the integrated remote control.  Then the
       PC (or Mac :-) software could do its own EDLs.

    3. As an option, build a three-deck system which supports
       A/B roll and either has a builtin SEG or sychronizes both
       signal outputs so you can use an external SEG.  Or use
       a Panasonic MX12 or WAVE which synch the signals itself.

>I've read a lot of good things about the 9700.  One thing that I thought was
>interesting was that B&H's ads in VIDEOMAKER says that the 9700 has some
>correction circuitry that allows the output of the source deck to go into a
>Toaster without a TBC!!  Is this true?  Is there some sort of pseudo-TBC
>inside?  ENQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW!!
 
  The 9700 signal is stable enough to be used through the Toaster unTBCed
  but it does not synch it to anything else.  If you want to do A/B rolls
  with a Toaster, you still need a TBC capable of slaving one of the decks
  to the other.  We have used a Sony V5000 and a 9700 together through a
  Toaster with one TBC, genlocking the V5000 to the 9700 A deck.


  Jon Rosen


Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: chipg@access.digex.com (Chip Gallo)
Subject: Hi8mm Logging Needed
Followup-To: chipg@access.digex.com
Summary: Need to Log Hi8
Keywords: hi8, logging
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: md
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 22:35:58 GMT

I have about 5 hours of hi8 tape that I want to log. Recommendations
on affordable facilities would be appreciated, in the Washington,
DC area. A full edit suite is not required, just logging.

Thanks!

<Chip Gallo, Action Comm Research>

Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: ericd@synoptics.com (Sybase App. User)
Subject: Re: Sony EVO-9700
Reply-To: ericd@synoptics.com
Organization: Synoptics Inc. Santa Clara, California.
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 00:19:47 GMT

In article 4268@vidiot.UUCP, brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>In article <1992Oct13.055636.29991@RedBrick.COM> jfr@RedBrick.COM writes:
><In article <2046@celia.UUCP> celia!will@usc.edu (Will McCown) writes:
><>To users/owners of the Sony EVO-9700 some questions that the sony literature
><>doesn't answer:
><>
><>1)  How accurately does it edit?


Info about how the 9700 cannot insert edit for more than 60 sec deleted.....

I have performed a > 60 second edit many times on a 9700 without hiccup.. I may just be lucky.

>
><>2)  The literature has the cryptic footnote: "To execute a video insertion,
><>    the tape being inserted must be recorded by the same machine."  Is this
><>    true?  What happens if you insert video on a tape from some other
><>    machine?

Again I have insert on media recoded on a different machine, no problem...
Granted the tolerances are tighter, so if all of your gear is maintained WELL all should 
be OK..

>Wasn't it designed as a consumer product only?

It makes a great compact 60-120 min gathering media!

I do most of editing onto 8mm on a EVO-9800. This unit does not seem to suffer from the 
problems noted above. However, I tend to use the 9800 as a source deck most of the time.


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From: raymondu@terapin.com (Raymond Ulibarri)
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject: Re: video/audio switcher recommendation?
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:32:48 GMT
Organization: BBS


   There are too many products to mention here, but what you want is a _x_
routing switcher.  They come in many sizes (from 4x4 to 20x20 and larger).  4x4
means up to four different sources and up to four different destinations.  You
can switch to any or all of the destinations, and in most cases crossover audio
from different sources.

   Call R.E. Snader in Sausalito, CA for a catalog at (415) 332-7070.

   Call Comprehensive Video Supply as well.  Number not available.


Raymond Ulibarri
Vice President
MultiCon
Multimedia Concepts
(510)261-1001
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: jfr@RedBrick.COM ()
Subject: Re: Hi8 editing?
Organization: Red Brick Systems, Los Gatos, CA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 04:50:37 GMT

In article <Bw0G7A.24E@solbourne.com> tls@solbourne.com (Tom Schreur) writes:
>[Much deleted]
>>  The 9700 signal is stable enough to be used through the Toaster unTBCed
>>  but it does not synch it to anything else.  If you want to do A/B rolls
>>  with a Toaster, you still need a TBC capable of slaving one of the decks
>>  to the other.  We have used a Sony V5000 and a 9700 together through a
>>  Toaster with one TBC, genlocking the V5000 to the 9700 A deck.
>>     			 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>I didn't know the V5000 was genlockable, could you explain further?
 
  I probably used the word genlocking illadvisably... neither the V5000
  or the 9700 can be genlocked by themselves.  The TBC we used can lock
  to an external sync signal.  Thus, the 9700 is used as one source
  directly into input one of the Toaster and the V5000 is fed through
  the TBC to input two.  The 9700 output is also fed (via a splitter)
  to the TBC, thereby "locking" the V5000 to the 9700 source.  This
  is actually frame synchronization, I guess, not exactly genlocking,
  although I continue to consider them one and the same.  

  Jon Rosen
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: wkmpph@ritvax.isc.rit,edu (W. Keith McManus)
Subject: Sony BVV-5 wanted
Followup-To: rec.video.production
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 00:55:30 GMT



Wanted: SONY BVV-5 dockable SP Betacam VTR



W. Keith McManus           
Rochester Institute of Technology
School of Photographic Arts & Sciences
Rochester, New York  14623-0887

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From: cicero@hotcity.COM (Andreas Locicero)
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
Subject: Re: Help! Movie Gear
Date: 9 Oct 92 00:06:55 PST
Organization: BBS

Regarding the availability of film and video equipment and services near Santa
Cruz:  There is everything you could ever want available in San Francisco and
quite a bit even closer to you than that.  Get a copy of the Reel Directory
(Adolphe Gasser in SF has them for one) that will give you an idea where to
call.

As for your idea of shooting on 16mm at 30 fps, why?  You don't need 1 to 1
frame corespondance.  Any transfer facility can handle the frame conversion for
you.  You watch feature films shot at 24 fps on video all the time (its
actually part of that film "look") why make life hard on yourself.  Besides I
think you will have a great deal of trouble finding a sync rig set up for 30
fps.  An Arri SR for example with a standard Crystal motor runs at 24 or 25
frames, it has no setting for 30.  Also a nagra ordinarily lays down pilot tone
for 24 fps.  Its just the standard way things are done.

(Disclaimer: At least on the east-coast where I went to film school!  I guess
things could be different out here but I've never heard of it.)

A.J. LoCicero >> cicero@hotcity.com

The opinions expressed above ARE those of my employer!
This message comes to you from beautiful Morgan Hill, California, U.S.A.:
The front line in the war against suburbanization!
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: merkel@convex.com (Kent Merkel)
Subject: Titling
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 11:39:05 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

Has anyone evaluated or purchased either the new Shereff titling
package for the IBM/compatible or the "Prime Time" from Innovision??
Would you be willing share your thoughts with me about either of
these packages???
Kent Merkel    214 497 4942(work)  214 422 2702(home)

Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: tech@crash.cts.com (Don Bontemps)
Subject: TBCard (timebase corrector) For Sale!!
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: 06 Oct 92 21:53:09 PDT

I.DEN  TBCard , like new for a mere $700!

The TBCard is a computer controlled time base, color
corrector with the following features:


* Ideal for the Video Toaster
 
* Plugs directly into Amiga and
  IBM compatible computers

* TBCard has full Proc Amp Control-
  Video Level, Chroma Level, Set-up & Hue

* Wide Bandwidth, 5.5 Mhz Performance for
  Composite and Y/C Video Signals (S-VHS/Hi8)



If interested, please Leave E-mail or call
Video Elegance Productions (619) 286-2274
ask for Eric.


PS:  I know this isn't the for.sale area but I figured
     it would be the most logical newgroup to post it to.


Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: "alan kennedy" <alan.kennedy@canrem.com>
Subject: rgb to ntsc encoder
Reply-To: "alan kennedy" <alan.kennedy@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 11 Oct 92 02:23:04 EST

to: waugh@dg-rtp.dg.com

-We're looking for an RGB to NTSC convertor. The RGB is coming out on
-3 co-ax cables marked R, G, and B :-). We've found boxes that will
-take PC RGB with PC connectors, but this is a workstation with
-different connections.
-Oh, and the kicker, we'd like it cheap. About $2-3K would be great.
-This is to take the output of the workstation and send it via a
-video conferencing system.
-Any leads etc. appreciated, please reply by e-mail, I'll summarise if
-people express interest in any answers I may get.

What you are looking for is called an encoder, and it probably has what
are called BNC connectors. They are high quality, locking coax
connectors.  You can find what you are looking for, for that amount.

We are selling some equipment from our now defunct sister company and we
have several encoders if you are interested. Here are the details.

NUMBER NINE-   Revolution series 2 genlock module and
               NTSC encoder................price $750.00
               2 Available

COX-           NTSC encoder. Built in bar generator.
               Orig. cost $3950............price $1500.00
               3 Available

They are in excellent working order, and we are dumping them simply
because of the excess quantity.
These are Canadian dollars which right now is about $.80 US.

If you are interested, or if I can give you any more help, send me a
note!

Alan Kennedy - alan.kennedy@canrem.com
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Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: nrossi@jarthur.claremont.edu (Nick Rossi)
Subject: S-VHS editing setup
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:26:49 GMT


Our school is looking to set up an S-VHS editing system.  We have a
Sony SLV-R5 and a Panasonic AG-450 camcorder.  I was all prepared to
recommend a Futurevideo Pro-Mark II for the controller, when I started
to get the picture that the AG-450 doesn't have a port for connection
to a controller.  Is this true?  Is the AG-450 incapable of being a
source deck for an edit controller?  (i.e. should the school have bought
an AG-460 instead?)

Nick
Newsgroups: rec.video.production
From: merkel@convex.com (Kent Merkel)
Subject: IBM PC as Editor
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 11:32:19 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

Does anyone know of a device that will interconnect  a PC with two
Panasonic type (5pin) vcrs. Can it maintain the same accuracy as the
AG-A95/96??  Is there software that can compile the start/stop points
and then do assembles/inserts/audio dubs. Perhaps "Windows based"???
Any info appreciated.
Kent