From: pavlovic-milan@yale.edu (Milan Pavlovic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.croatia
Subject: Yugoslavs - a non-existent nation.
Date: 22 Dec 1992 10:39:23 -0500
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In article <Dec.22.01.31.42.1992.12806@andromeda.rutgers.edu> pshane@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Ana M. Shane) writes:

>My nation is Yugoslav, my nationality, religion and culture are my private
>matter. My comment was NOT about YOU, since I don't know you but about
>the LANGUAGE and the MANNER you used in ONE of your postings. I didn't
>say that LSCG is right or wrong, that may be a matter of oppinion and
>discussion. 
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>beacuse we want peace? Because I regard ALL of the peoples of Yugoslavia
>as my people? Because I try to point out that the real enemies of all
>the peoples are the ones who lead them in war? Why, really?
>

  Beg your pardon?  Are you telling me that abrodnik, the man who replicated
the ultimate misuser of Usenet, Hasan B-) Mutlu, in cross posting tons and tons
of propaganda for over a year, is one who wants peace?  Is this the same
arrogant Andrej Brodnik we're talking about here, the arrrogant, racist,
pretentious abrodnik who tried to shup up the Serbian side of the story the
minute DVV started posting articles about the crimes of Croats?

  But perhaps I was mistaken in making a parallel between you and abrodnik
in the first place, and you are sincere in your commitment for peace, so
let's leave it at that.

  However, I want to address one issue here.  You say your nationality is
"Yugoslav".  Well let me tell you something, Ana.  I too thought my nation was
"Yugoslav", up until August 1990 when I moved back to the US with my parents.
Now you might ask why the sudden conversion from outright Yugoslav (I had an
idealistic,erroneous view of  a "Yugoslav nation", as promulgated by the Heoric
King Alexander, not in Tito's federalist communist rhetoric "bratstvo i
jedinstvo", etc.) to outspoken Serbian nationalist.

  The answer is real simple.  I started listening to the Croatian radio
program in New York on a regular basis, and only then did I realize how much
hate there is for anything remotely connected to Serbia or Serbs among
the Croatian people.  Zvonimir Crnogorac, the Ustashi scumbag who led the show,
opened my eyes - and I'm grateful for that.  I am only sorry that all the
students in Belgrade who listen to B92 and read tjednik "Vreme", believing in
some foolish humanitarianism and the outright lies of the UJDI movement,
don't have a chance to also listen to the blatant, most extreme racist views
of the Croatian radio hour so they could see the wide gap that  separates
Serbs from Croats.  Or I guess if they coud read some of Mr. Brodnink's posts
they could see the kind of racist hatred that exists for the Serbs (BTW,
Dr. Wickerhauser doesn't even come close to this high level of hatred; I think
I've only heard 2 people hate Serbs so much - that Croatian radio announcer and
Andrej Brodnik; Doc's a nice guy if you were to compare him to these two).

  I remember, there was one song in Yugoslavia that I liked as a teenager,
it went something like "Koja je razlika izmedju voza i vlaka, ko moze tu
postaviti granicu", (just paraphrasing, I can't exactly remember the lyric).
Well, that song was wrong.  There is a border.  There is a difference between
"Serbian" and "Croatian" languages.  We don't speak the same language, Ana.
You're disillusioning yourself if you think otherwise; we are not the same
people.  Serbs could never butcher a million people the way the Croats did
during WWII.  Our nations and understanding of culture are worlds apart.

  So let me sum up my thoughts for you:

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  S V E   Z A   S R P S T V O.....S R P S T V O   N I   Z A   S T A  !


Regards,
Milan Pavlovic
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