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From: jennyb@triton.unm.edu (Jenny Ballmann)
Subject: Re: Meech-o-matic
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 05:49:01 GMT
Organization: UNM Janitorial Staff

In article <1992Aug28.153654.12918@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.062854.28758@utkux1.utk.edu> kovarik@utkux1.utk.edu (SaintMeechTheChaste) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug28.013148.19397@samba.oit.unc.edu> Bruce.Tindall@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Bruce Tindall) writes:
>>>
>>>>Is a change of name in order?  If you want an angstogenic moniker,
>>>I can heartily recommend "Bruce"...
>>
>>Ok.....  I'm game!
>>
>>			StBruceTheChaste
>
>
>no, i think it should be jennifer. "stjenthechaste". much better.
>
I think it should be Jennifer too.  It was a fairly uncommon name
when I got it.  About ten years later, it was in the top five US
female names.  Now every other yup-pup is a Jennifer or, like my
(shudder) own cousin, a Brandon.

Back from Idaho, with absolutely no job angst for once.  The big
distances out there make time for all the other revolting minutiae
of worthless existence to invade and fester.  It struck me: the
answer!  Occupy your time!  Don't think, do!

Urgggh.

Jenny
-- 
"We can all perceive the difference between ourselves and our inferiors,
but when it comes to a question of the difference between ourselves and
our superiors, we fail to appreciate merits of which we have no proper
conceptions.  In the face of this obvious difficulty, there is the safe
From: llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Job decision angst
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:16:06 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

David Hinz Mfg 4-6987 (hinz@picard.med.ge.com) wrote:
: 
: I'm faced with a very strange situation.  I'm currently going for two
: promotions, either of which have a possibility of coming through.  Also, it
: turns out that I may have a strong possibility of getting a better job out
: of state.  Here's the angst:  What to decide?
:
: [more money and staying versus much more money and new area]

hmmmm. my first instinct was to say go for the move, not because of
the money (since all my possessions except the books could fit ina few
cardboard boxes...) but because of the adventure and fun of wandering
into a new area and starting over. i was thinking about my move to
austin... the more i think about it, the more i realize that i'm too
happy living where i live to leave, regardless of the amount of money
offered. 

so basically, you have to decide whether you're tired of living where
you are or not. how attached are you to your surroundings? how much do
you want a change? the money involved should be secondary.

: Oh, and "That's not angst, at least you have a job" is not what I'm looking
: for, but if it makes you feel better to post that, have a blast.

but i have one now! i gave in, did the piss test, passed it
godonlyknowshow, and i start on the 15th. 

--
sine nomine
debbie martinson
"i thank you God for most this amazing day, for the leaping greenly
spirits of trees and a blue true dream of sky" -- ee cummings
From: jamesh@netcom.com (James Hightower)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Insanity Angst
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:18:22 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

kovarik@utkux1.utk.edu (SaintMeechTheChaste) writes:

>Why is it that Pauly Shore can act crazy and get away with it?

Because no one want's to upset Mitzi by doing anything about it?
Because he gets paid for it?
Because he's younger than us? Richer than us? Smarter than us?
Because he looks good doing it?
Because he's cooler than us?
Because he's on MTV and we are not?
Because he's cute and we are not?
Because... Well, because.

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James Hightower		jamesh@netcom.COM 	...Don't try this at home!
From: hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu (Mathew A. Hennessy)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: belief
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:06:05 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <78892@ut-emx.uucp> llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine) writes:
>
>i should stop blathering now while i'm not too far behind. remind me
>not to post when i'm being depressed... if i were in a better
>mindframe, i could write an intelligent essay based on all this. maybe
>some other day.
>

	Depression typically brings out the best writing in people, or at
least that's what I've found.  Probably because _I_ prefer it to people who
write when they're happy.  If you were in a better mindframe, you'd be at
alt.romance.chat, and we wouldn't want to lose any more gray cells to them,
now would we?  

	I believe it was Aristotle who said that the wisest man is the one who
knows that he knows nothing, and will admit it.  Only the Intellectually
Challenged (PC-ese for "Terminally Stupid" or "Republican", used
interchangeably) spout off at how great they are and how much they know.. the
best don't even have to say it, it just comes out in the wash.  I won't tell
you to cheer up because that would be insanely hypocritical.  

>debbie martinson




-- 
   /I\          Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke.
  /(*)\         hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu                 
 /IIIII\        
/IIIIIII\       Give me SLACK or give me food (or kill me).
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 08:47:50 -0400 
From: "Kevin J. Chen" <kc2w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Angst comparison (was Re: money angst)
	<1992Aug25.140245.24150@linus.mitre.org>

In article <1992Aug24.205126.209@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins) writes:
>In article <1992Aug24.160330.13448@linus.mitre.org>
sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay) writes:
>
>>
>>ObAngst: Rachel says its monsoon season in Az....I'm wondering how
this bodes for
>>the gathering....

Angst:  Just before returning to college, I met the world's most perfect
woman down in Miami.  She was beautiful, intelligent, respected me for
my personality, and wanted to bear my children.  About half a day later,
Andrew stomped over South Florida.

AngstAngst:  I didn't really meet anybody.  And Andrew still stomped
over South Florida.

Kevin.
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: singram@eng.auburn.edu (Scott Ingram)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Reality Angst
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:06:03 GMT
Reply-To: singram@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering

>So I live all inside my own head.  I feel this conflict:  I don't
>condone the anesthetized, insulated life that I lead, there's a
>life I'd rather lead and these darting glimpses of it are so
>seductive, and yet I jump back into the mundane cycle.  This is
>today's angst, time and again getting high on these flashes of how
>my life might be, and repeatedly getting slammed back to the
>reality that what I want is precisely what my life isn't.
>
It's at least pleasant to find someone who (at least a little bit)
feels the same I do about Life In General(tm). I spend hours every day 
thinking about how much better life could be...

>Furthermore, the friend I traveled with met a romantic man who
>whispered to her in French during romantic interludes.  Jealousy
>abounds.

So it worked for him? I tried speaking French to a girl I met
and was interested in... she just stared at me and said, `Please 
speak English'. Sigh. What good is three years of French, anyway?

Orion.
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: A new source of Angst.....
Date: 25 Aug 92 21:39:14 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Bruce.Tindall@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Bruce Tindall) writes:

: The point is that only about 0.001% of the eligible voters in this country
: vote in the general election, and even fewer in the primaries.  The political
: system is ripe for the taking, if only enough people would do the bare 
: minimum -- vote.  

but back when i was in proofreading hell one of the more annoying
tasks i had was proofing the american journal of poli sci... a year or
so ago, they published an interesting study...

surveying voters and nonvoters in that last several elections, they
came to the conclusion that even had all the nonvoters voted, no
presidential election would have had a different outcome. we get what
we ask for; the problem isn't the political system, it's the sheep.

: No difference?  Give me a break.  It would be nice to have a Labour/Tory
: kind of choice, but even in Britain the Labourites are becoming more
: centrist.  I'd love to have lobster thermidor, but a choice between
: a cheeseburger and dog shit is still a pretty obvious choice.

the question shouldn't be "dog shit or cheeseburger?" it should be
"why is the menu so limited?" and again, i don't think it's the fault
of the political system in this country. it's the sheep. come on... in
a country where geraldo has high ratings and serious documentaries
can't get produced very often anymore... we get what we ask for, and
the reason so many people on this newsgroup are bummed is cause we're
not part of the great global generic we that's turned their minds off
and believes what they're told. the people in this country are very
well-trained, for the most part. they get up, go to work, come home,
east dinner in front of the tv, screw the spouse if it's thursday, go
to sleep, then start all over again the next day.

that's angst. that's despair... it's why i'm living in austin being
alone. anything beats being a sheep. i was talking to a teenaged
friend of mine a while ago. he was being depressed because he wants to
believe in something but hasn't found anything he can really accept
("i wanna convert to christianity, but i don't believe in god, christ,
or the afterlife"). i tried to explain to him that part of the reason
he's so bummed by this is that he's got a mind and he uses it and he's
not afraid to ask the hard questions. he was amazed to find that most
people never worry about this shit. 

sigh. <rant off>

: ObAngst:  99% of the readers of this newsgroup are libertarians.

libertarians, in general, aren't any less sheeplike than the
traditional parties. they're just herded by different shepherds.

--
sine nomine
debbie martinson
"see it on the tv go and buy the toothpaste... yeah, packaging is
everything, get a pretty face to talk about the warm glow from
nuclear waste" -- gunbunnies
From: kovarik@utkux1.utk.edu (SaintMeechTheChaste)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Angst comparison (was Re: money angst)
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:45:37 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee Oil and Lube Center

In article <1992Aug25.172008.9758@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins) writes:
>
>ObAngst: i only managed to obtain half of my textbooks from the library, and i 
>can't afford to buy the rest. i guess i'll live without them...
>

Have you considered a life of crime, or selling a kidney?
					M
From: despair@netcom.com (Scott Hanson)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: freedom angst (was a new source of angst)
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:07:07 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

I am too depressed right now to edit the original article, but I have a
comment.  

I agree with everything excepting one point:  freedom = 1/security

This is an inexcusably optimistic opinion, but I think if people are
given freedom and at least a chance at a happy life there will be little
crime.  People commit crime because they do not respect their life or others,
and if they had this reverence for life no amount of freedom would make
criminal behaviour tempting.  Please excuse the liberal use of "crime" here,
I am not in the mood to change it.  What a pitiful, idiotic way to feel about
human nature, but I'm a fool.


-- 
Scott Hanson		This has been a recording.
despair@netcom.com
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: smolin@physics.ucla.edu (Smolin)
Subject: Angst
Organization: UCLA Department of Physics
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 20:27:57 GMT

9/2/92  1:32 pm

Angst:  My previous post got the last line cut off of it for some reason.
I wonder what is going on.  I was going to send the following simple angstful
note:

>9/1/92  11:31 pm
>
>She isn't going to call.

I thought this was rather profound at the time but I think what I wound up
sending was probably better.

John
.
fodder for rn follows, will there be 5 lines with dots?
..
..
..
..
From: Bruce.Tindall@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Bruce Tindall)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: A new source of Angst.....
Date: 26 Aug 92 01:56:58 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <1992Aug25.064038.555@acme.gen.nz> kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I) writes:
>Bruce.Tindall@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Bruce Tindall) writes:
>> ObAngst:  99% of the readers of this newsgroup are libertarians.
>Am I? And if so, why is it so angstful?

Two reasons.  First, libertarians oppose government for any purpose.  The
only example we currently have of a pure and true anarchy on Earth is the
lovely vacationland of Somalia.   (Hmm, maybe I could organize tours with
one-way tickets and all the libertarians would GO.)  Second, without 
the government the libertarians would abolish, where would Usenet find
the deep pockets to pay for rec.letterman.kibo and alt.bondage.trilobyte?
Not to mention alt.angst?

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   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
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Xref: sparky alt.angst:3270 alt.religion.kibology:3654 alt.usenet.recovery:160
From: mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S. Morris)
Newsgroups: alt.angst,alt.religion.kibology,alt.usenet.recovery
Subject: Re: Usenet angst
Date: 29 Aug 92 07:35:33 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I) writes:
: 
: Note that I said "no longer". I've got this theory that after a certain
: amount of exposure to Usenet, individuals reach their Bogosity Threshold and
: either:	(1) don't read the Net any more 
: 	(2) keep reading but don't take it seriously
: 	(3) do a KPD and take everything too seriously. (hi Kent!)
: 
What are you talking about. I stopped taking life or anything
in it seriously, cause otherwise I'd have been a basket case.

ObAngst:Dead tired...but can't sleep--I hate "bink" syndrome. You
know, as soon as your head hits the pillow, you are wide awake...
--
Mary E. S. Morris    |  The future exists first in imagination, then
mesm@netcom.COM      |  in will, then in reality. -- Galivan Burwell
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Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: kovarik@utkux1.utk.edu (SaintMeechTheChaste)
Subject: Re: angst
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:55:54 GMT

In article <fulton.715443113@silver> fulton@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Ben Fulton) writes:
>In <1992Sep2.062745.22405@physics.ucla.edu> smolin@physics.ucla.edu (Smolin) writes:
>
>>9/1/92  11:31 pm
>
>In and of itself, or an event that happened then?
>

Hey!  The guy's a physicist!  How could he possibly be happy?  At any
time.  Presumably, his message reflects the homogeneity and isotropy of
his angst, and 9/1/92 11:31 pm, a time essentially chosen at random,
to him feels as Hellish as any other.  Profound!
					Meech
From: nexus@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Abstractor)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Oh no!!!!
Date: 3 Sep 1992 19:49:37 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

jeanette@hpmcaa (Jeanette Skelton) writes:

>David Hinz Mfg 4-6987 (hinz@picard.med.ge.com) wrote:
>> ObAngstComment:  I think I'll do the lifequake thing.
>>  
>Great! Do one for me, too.

>Jeanette

Did you pay him ?

the NEXUS>
          "Getsumei no michi"
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: ONRL jobs?
From: hobbs_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Anthony 'the Bard' Hobbs)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 00:31:27 GMT
Reply-To: hobbs_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Distribution: alt
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ

In article <1992Aug27.175641.18809@beaver.cs.washington.edu>, boesch@cs.washington.edu (Eric Boesch) writes:

>ObKateBush meets Subliminal Positive Thinking: two years ago, I played
>a Kate Bush song about four times in a row because I liked its odd
>melody.  I couldn't make out all the words, so I checked the printed
>lyrics; it was about suicide.  It was still going through my head, so
>I played it maybe five or six more times.  Then I fixed myself a
>peanut butter and jelly sandwich, which took a while because I kept
>forgetting steps.

At a wild guess - "The Kick Inside"? It's Her only song about suicide I can
think of offhand... but indeed, it is very beautiful.

anthony (followups to rec.music.gaffa? :-)
--
Anthony Hobbs             the Bard                hobbs_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz    
OverPope, First Holy and Unreformed Church of Frozen Yoghurt - romantic poet - 
synth player extraordinaire - kate bush is goddess - hail Eris - praise "Bob"!
DISCLAIMER: I am not Romanian and was not head of the Securitate for 15 years.
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: fulton@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Ben Fulton)
Subject: Stupidity Angst
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:52:11 GMT

I posted a grammar flame - and I was wrong on the grammar.  Consider this
to be my penance.


-- 
ben
fulton@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
"Get the hell out of my way!" - John Galt
From: llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Accents
Date: 26 Aug 92 04:14:54 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Bruce.Tindall@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Bruce Tindall) writes:

: Ahem.  I'm not sure whether you were accusing *me* of careerism, but
: I will angstfully assume you were and will object loudly.  I didn't take

not you in particular. it was more a random rant at a world that
doesn't value the same sorts of things, on the whole, that i do.
people who think knowledge for its own sake is dumb and have nifty
mba's and make a zillion times more money than i do and have no clue
as to how to do creative fun things with it outnumber me. sigh. 

: [wonderful defense against careerist charges omitted cause i'm anal
: about quoting bunches of stuff]

: getting an M.A. in the utterly useless field of "Liberal Studies"
: from Dook University?  I did it because it was edifying and fun.

yay! what concentration?

: Don't you dare call me a careerist and accuse me of saying that everything
: must have a business-oriented bottom line, "sine nomine."  Cape indicium

uh, i spose i should explain the handle bit, eh? i've been on the net
for only a few months, but i've been bbsing for about six and a half
years. since the beginning, i've used "sine nomine" as my handle. i
like it. i sign everything here with my real name, too, but i
identify with "sine" in some ways more than i do with "deb." lotsa
people i know call me more by handle than real name; it's just a
nickname i'm used to. and it serves somewhat the same function as
meech's hair: it's a useful screening device. 

: ObAngst:  Angsters who are so angstful that they are on a hair-trigger
: to accuse other angsters of being alpha bowhead types on the flimsiest
: of evidence.  Not that I'm saying "sine nomine" is such a one, but...

netapologies^10. but it's nice to be an angstful angster. <grin>

: NonObCompliment:  We don't do "net*hugs*" on this newsgroup but a tip
: of the hat and net*joints* to "sine nomine" for not giving in to the 
: Fascist piss testers.  I don't think a "careerist" would say that, either,
: would he?

thanks. and no, but i dunno if i'm not gonna give in yet. six months
of relative unemployment does strange things to a woman.

--
sine nomine
debbie martinson
"nothing's so cold as closing the heart when all we need is to free
the soul, but we wouldn't be that brave i know" -- toad the wet sprocket
Newsgroups: alt.angst,alt.religion.kibology,alt.usenet.recovery
From: alto@pegasus.com (Andrea Ostensoe)
Subject: Re: Usenet angst
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 07:50:03 GMT

I'm happy to say..I never took the Net seriously and used to be flamed
"big time" for it...now I take it even *less* seriously...bordering on
being "bored"....could this be a phase or a prelude to just fading away?


-- 
**************************************************************************
"I don't ask for much..just your heart on a silver platter;-)"
						-Kali
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From: ABienek@acorn.co.uk (Alex Bienek)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: A new source of Angst.....
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:37:17 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England

In article <78656@ut-emx.uucp> llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine) writes
in reply to my comments:

>so they (USSR) were building up their arms out of megalomania, but we were
>just trying to stay up with them? even though we started it?

On balance I would say yes, they had the greater desire to expand their
empire and dominate. Perhaps it's a matter of proximity, the closer
you are to the threat the more threatened you feel. In the US I feel
threatened by random violence, the forces of anarchy if you like. In
Eastern Europe I felt threatened by the state, the forces of law and 
order, and I know which was worse.

>: I think they were aware that their weapons technology was inferior
>: But if they could have seen a way.....

>yeah, right. has it ever occurred to you to wonder exactly how they
>would manage the mechanics of taking over the us?

Well, no. I wasn't actually thinking of the US.

>: I think it's just the case the Saddam Hussien has reached the top of
>: the list of 'Mad Bastards Likely to Use Them' 
>
>again, he's not been acting like an insane person, and you gotta think
>he'd realize that the costs would far far outweigh the benefits. if
>any middle eastern/small country uses nukes, it'd likely be a
>terrorist thing, not as part of a war. no one is that stupid.

I was just paraphrasing what I think he would like to do in his wildest
dreams.
Of course his real plans for the immediate future are probably far less
ambitious. Continue his propaganda campaign about how he won the war
and eradicate a few more enemies. 

It seems in vogue at present in the US to say "We have the most evil,
aggressive, tyrannical empire in the world" and that "We have no right
what so ever to interfere with anyone else's tyranny".  In an ideal
world this may be true, but the world is not ideal and claiming that
we have no right to pass judgement on others is the same as saying that
only those that have never broken a law can sit on a jury. (By that I 
mean done something which they knew to be against the law, yes even
speeding) Thus there is no jury and the (alleged) criminal goes out
to commit more crime against others. 

In a world of no absolutes pragmatism maybe the only solution.

ObAngst: I'm not going to reply to any of the other objections to my
comments on world politics. These arguments can run and run.
                                                            
Alex.
From: mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S. Morris)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: dream
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:28:34 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

jeff@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Jeff McAffer) writes:
: 
: When I was younger I had a dream.  Things happened, I got distracted
: and now I can't find it.
: 
: Please, if you see my dream tell me.  It was bright and beautiful and
: full of wonder and excitement.
: 
My brain is gone too. It has a footprint right in the middle,
I did try to stop it...
--
Mary E. S. Morris    |  The future exists first in imagination, then
mesm@netcom.COM      |  in will, then in reality. -- Galivan Burwell
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