HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: judith@super.org (Judith D. Schlesinger)
Subject: Re: Renaming my new cat
Organization: Supercomputing Research Center (Bowie, MD)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:44:00 GMT

When I adopted Sarah, she was 9.5 months and named "Le Mieux".  I just
couldn't see calling her that!  "Bad, Le Mieus!"  "Get down, Le Mieux!"
Nope, it just wasn't going to work.

So I changed it to Princess Sarah (yes, after Fergie), although we
never use the "Princess" part.  It took her a while to learn that it
was her but she certainly knows her name now.  It helped, I'm sure,
that 1)she didn't seem to have any clue that her name was Le Mieux
(who could blame her?) and 2)I called her by name *all* the time so
she would learn it.

So, if you really want to give your new "baby" a different name, I'd
go for it.  You might just check how well she knows her current name.
If she doesn't seem to relate to it, switch it for sure.

Hope this helps--

Judith and Charlie and Sarah and BB


Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ederpc@rtsg.mot.com (Pamela C. Eder)
Subject: Re: plastic fetish...
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:48:59 GMT

My 12 year old Tabby does the same thing, plastic bags, those soda can
six-pack holders, things wrapped in plastic, even plastic bags all alone.
Ruggles seems to have a fetish to chew and bite into all of these.  He's
been doing it since he was a kitten and there have been no obvious 
problems.  He was at it again last night when I got back from the
grocery store and he saw those nice, tasty plastic grocery bags.  I
wouldn't worry about it.

--Pamela, Ruggles, Tyson, Scooter & Hobbes

 

-- 
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   ederpc@void.rtsg.mot.com         of the tunnel has been turned off. Thank
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jeffp@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (Jeff Parke;S10000)
Subject: Re: Declawing surgery
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 02:16:43 GMT

In article <Bz3oqL.7rt@encore.com> dmillard@encore.com (Debbie Millard) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.074136.14333@serval.net.wsu.edu> jeffp@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (Jeff Parke;S10000) writes:
>>I just got done today doing a practice run at declawing surgery on a
>>cat cadaver.  
>    <declawing procedure deleted>
>
>Jeff, I'm curious and will probably be sorry I asked, but...
>where does the school get the cadavers?  How did the cats die?
>Do I really want to know?  

Probably not, but I am sure folks here know that there are many thousands
of dogs and cats sacrificed at pounds each year.  Fortunately a fraction of
these animals' bodies find some additional utility in helping train students
in anatomy and surgery.  The rest are just buried, burned or rendered.
---------------------
Jeff Parke <jeffp@vcs10.vetmed.wsu.edu>
also:   jeffp@WSUVM1.bitnet     CIS: 71511,1512    AOL: JeffParke
Washington State University College of Veterinary Medicine class of 1994
Pullman, WA  99164-7012

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: kditto@nyx.cs.du.edu (Kimborly Ditto)
Subject: Re: Ghost Kitty Story
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 04:24:47 GMT


I know I've posted this one before, but X-mas time always makes me think
of my BigKitty, dead 4 years now.

Whenever I'm under a lot of stress (as in lately - I've just completed my
1st semester of a PhD program), I get visits from BigKitty.  It's usually
after I turn in.  I feel this weight jump on the bed, it walks around a
little, then settles down somewhere, and sometimes I hear a faint purr. 
SOmetimes she settles on my back (that was a favorite sleep spot)!

When my now current SO broke up with me once, she cam to visit while I was
crying myself to sleep;  made me feel slightly better, but also made me
cry more. :(

SHe used to always take care of me when I was sick - making sure I wasn't
out of bed when I should'nt be (used to sleep on my chest if I got up too
often), would curl up with me when I was stressed or sad...

I'm glad she still keeps an eye on me.  We were raised together.  I miss
her so much.  I hope she visits tonight.

--Kim DItto

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: david@tms390.micro.ti.com (David Thomas)
Subject: Re: Rate of personality change in neutered cat
Organization: Texas Instruments, Houston
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:15:44 GMT

<U15289@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:

>My male cat, approximately six months old, was neutered a week ago.  His old
>habits of biting and clawing have lessened somewhat, but still remain to a
>substantial extent.  His overall activity level remains relatively high.  Are
>additional personality changes likely in the foreseeable future?

>Also, is there any significant chance that he'll become overweight if I contin-
>ue to feed him as I'd been doing before the surgery?  He had been working it
>off pretty well; what's likely to happen in the future?

The primary effect of neutering is to *avoid* the personality and 
behavioral changes that would normally occur with sexual maturity.
In most ways, you can expect him to remain the way he is now.

It's really too soon to see much effect from the surgery.  It's not 
unusual for the activity level of males to actually increase slightly 
for a few weeks after The Operation, particularly if they had been 
feeling some anxiety caused by unfamiliar sexual urges.  Any change 
(or lack of change) in habits of biting and clawing are probably more 
related to his age.  Bear in mind that at six months you're still dealing 
with a kitten.

When he's a year old, he will probably calm down some, play less 
aggressively, and be more affectionate.  That's about the time that you
may need to start keeping an eye on his weight.  You could even keep him 
on kitten food for a few more months without any problem, but he should be
eating adult cat food by the time he's 12 months old.

These things vary a lot from one individual to another, so it's impossible 
to predict.  It might be a good idea to keep track of his weight on a 
monthly basis, to detect whether he levels off at a reasonable weight, or 
continues to gain gradually.  I wouldn't worry about restricting his diet 
unless he actually shows signs of developing a weight problem.
-- 
David Thomas  Texas Instruments  (david@wotangate.sc.ti.com)  (713)-274-2347
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: rusty@nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov (Kenneth Hall)
Subject: Re: where are all the cat people
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:58:00 GMT

In article <9212160032.39@ve6bc.ampr.ab.ca>, donna@ve6bc.ampr.ab.ca (Donna MacKintosh) writes...
>donna@ve6bc.ampr.ab.ca (Donna MacKintosh) writes:
>> why is there a news group about cats with no entries or responses?
>> am i the only cat person? lets talk cats!!!!
> 
>To all of you who replied to my posting, I wish to thank you for
>input.  There is a problem with our newsfeed and it being looked into.
>Without your help we would have been unaware of this problem.
>Thank you.
> 
>My five year old cats' name is Pedro and he is a very large grey and
>white male alley cat from a litter of one.  He is a 25 pounder who
>likes Cheez Whiz, chocolate ice cream and canteloupe.  He loves to
>sleep with us on the waterbed but he snores, and hogs the covers.
> 
>I hope my newsfeed is fixed soon.  Bye for now.
>Donna

Well if he snores and hogs the covers I would say wack your hubby on 
the nose and tell him to stop these horrid behaviors or sleep on the 
floor.  Actually the though of a cat on a water bed makes me 
nervous... I could see an endless night of bouncing cat playing catch 
the mouse until i lost what is left of my tattered mind...

R
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:22:52 EST
From: <LMS5@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Mischievous Black Cat

In article <1992Dec8.163419.44090@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, mas5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu
(MICHELLE A. M. SZENA) says:
>
>My little Merlin is 9 months old and he's hell on paws.  He's been neutered
>and I thought that would have slowed him down but it hasn't.  In fact he's
>gotten worse.  He's all black and only weighs about 8 pounds.  I have a female
>longhair (Pookie) who is 2 years old and outweighs him by 9 pounds.  So to me
>he looks tiny and he's very skinny but eats like a horse.
>
>Anyway he has this constant look of wonder in his eyes and he's so bad.

  I have an all black male cat... his name.. Trouble :-)
  I guess that kinda answers your question :-)

Laurie
owned by: Trouble and Isabelle
Xref: sparky rec.pets.cats:14929 alt.drugs:19649
From: lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,alt.drugs
Subject: Re: UL: Monumental LSD overdose taken (was: Re: Brands of LSD)
Date: 14 Dec 92 12:12:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Dec14.121240.19653
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'

sl31+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stephen M. Lacy) writes:
>Excerpts from netnews.alt.drugs: 14-Dec-92 Re: UL: Monumental LSD over..
>by Michael J Maryo @udecc.e 
>> thing that gets me is that even know we all know the effects and dangers (?)
>> associated with drugs, there are still a lot of us who do use them.  But the
>> difference is that we use them wisely and responsibly.  The knowledge that
>
>Please, let me know how to take an illegal drug "wisely and responsibly"
>  I'm quite interested.

"Wisely" is a term that I'm just not going to argue.  However, can people 
take alcohol responsibly?  Yes.  What is fundamentally different between
legal and illegal drugs?  Nothing except for their legal status.  The
legal status is IMHO not a factor at all in determining if it can be
used responsibly -- the important factors are things like pharmacology
and psychoactive effects.  Since there's nothing fundamentally different
between legal and illegal drugs in those factors that are important then
you can use an illegal drug "responsibly".
 
 

-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu
  "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
                                      -- Robert Anton Wilson
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: reid@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Robert Reid)
Subject: Re: Flaunting the law - responsibly...
Organization: Applied Research Labs, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:49:10 GMT

lhuffman@stsci.edu writes:

>> 
>> Just look at the people around you. There is a good chance that about 50%
>> of them are users of at least one of the illegal drugs. A person uses them
>> wisely and responsibly in the same way that a responsible person uses 
>> alcohol. Just because a drug is illegal does not make its use unwise or
>                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> irresponsible.
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> 
>> Bill

>Such a mystery to me, this way of thinking. If something is the law, to decide
>that one is above the law is acting responsibly?  How about the good ole'
>'Murican tradition of expending one's efforts to change the law?

First of all, in which group did you intend for this to be posted?

Second, you are making the assumption that those who make the laws know
what is best for both you and society.

Robert
Xref: sparky rec.pets.cats:14961 alt.drugs:19711
From: honig@ruffles.ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Subject: Re: UL: Monumental LSD overdose taken (was: Re: Brands of LSD)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,alt.drugs
Reply-To: honig@ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Organization: UC Disneyland, in the Kingdom of Bren
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:01:23 GMT

 sl31+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stephen M. Lacy) writes:
>Excerpts from netnews.alt.drugs: 14-Dec-92 Re: UL: Monumental LSD over..
>by Michael J Maryo @udecc.e
>> thing that gets me is that even know we all know the effects and dangers (?)
>> associated with drugs, there are still a lot of us who do use them.  But the
>> difference is that we use them wisely and responsibly.  The knowledge that
>
>Please, let me know how to take an illegal drug "wisely and responsibly"
>  I'm quite interested.
>
>Steve

The word "illegal" there is superflous, except with respect to the issue of
quality control.  As to that, buying plants is reliable; buying paper squares
is at worse a rip-off.  Buying powders and pills is dubious.

How does one do anything responsibly?  With care and forethought.


--
David Honig

"Q: What does a C programmer say to an Ada(tm) programmer?
 A: I'll have a burger and fries, no onions."
From: hannah@pomponio.ai.sri.com (Marsha Jo Hannah)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Wheezing, hack in 15 yr. Siamese
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:01:15 GMT
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA
In-reply-to: jgraham@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu's message of 16 Dec 92 22:21:10 GMT

In article <BzDI3A.8Hu@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> jgraham@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (the End) writes:

>My moms 15 yr. old Siamese-Burmese cross breaks into a heavy wheeze, then kind
>of scrunches down trying to hack up something every coulpe of hours for a 
>minute or so. He seems partially successful as he swallows, and then stops for
>some time.
>
>The vet is clueless, but showed us that he has an enlarged heart.
>
>Jim

Our cat, Fats, does a wheeze/hack/swallow routine when it's time to
worm him.  I get pills of Droncit from the vet (for tapeworms, which
are acquired from fleas); the wheezing diminishes slowly over the next
week or two, then Fats is hack-free for a few months.  My vet gave me
the "you've got to be kidding" look when I explained what I was doing,
but other netters have reported similar symptoms being "cured" by
worming.

It can't hurt, and it might help....

Marsha Jo Hannah
Organization: H&SS Dean's Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:47:53 -0500 
From: Anna Matyas <am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Do your cats know their names?
	<1992Dec16.223032.17763@inel.gov>


Jamie Ferguson writes:

>All 3 of my cats know their names and will come (or at least look to
>see if I have kitty treats) when I call.  Most people find this hard
>to believe, and I was wondering how many other peoples' cats know
>their names.  Its funny because the right cat will look up and meow
>at me!!!    

Gracie certainly knows her name.  I have a few nicknames for her which
she kind of responds to but the big meows come when I call her Grace
or Gracie.

She also calls out to me.  If I walk into a room and start looking around
for her if she's not in plain view (behind the tv, under the telephone
stand, etc.), she meows loudly so I can locate her. It's like she's saying,
"I'm over here, mommy!"

Anna



Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: mml@eng.umd.edu (Marios Leventopoulos)
Subject: Home Alone: for how long?
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 01:05:09 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity von Uniland, College Park
Originator: mml@euclid.src.umd.edu


Xmas is comming, and we are planning a trip to my family, a six hour drive.

We are trying to decide what to do with our kitties. They are now 5
months old, and we are not sure if we should take them with us, or leave them home. 
We wont be back for 5 days at least, and it is not easy (this time of year) to find someone
that will agree to take care of them.

Can they stay alone for so long?  The FAQ saia that it's ok for up to four days, but it 
sounds as an awfully long time.  I suppose that they will have to go on dry food only,
but what about the water?

I have been reading postings about travelling with cats, and it doesn't look great either.

Any advice?  

Cheers and thanks,
marios

mml@eng.umd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: petitc@vccsouth04.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Subject: Re: Question
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 22:53:27 GMT

lb04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Laura Bassi) writes:

>Hi folks,
>  I recently caught a bit of a news piece that was saying something about
>  pregnant women and cat litter.  Apparently, contact w/ cat litter (used, I
>  assume :), is dangerous to the developing fetus. Anyone hear of anything
>  about this?  Thanks.

  I think it's because of a certain disease that cats can catch, not the used
litter itself.  I forget what the disease was called, but it tended to really
screw with unborns.  So, get your hubby to change the kitty litter, or, better
yet, get the kitty to change its litter, itself. :&)


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From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Kitty drugs (was Re: Fur Mice (was Re: Cats Under Beds))
Date: 11 Dec 92 14:00:38 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa


In article <1992Dec10.235319.12293@pony.Ingres.COM>, jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger) writes:
>>has more nepetalactone than plain catnip.   Both species are supposed to
>           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Hmm, sounds like some clever chemist has isolated the active ingredient.
> Has anyone extracted it?  Can I get it over the counter?  Is it legal?
> Does it produce cocaine-like symptoms in cats?  Inquiring minds, etc. etc.

Yes, it's been isolated (actually a series of nepetalactones), no, you
can't get it OTC, and yes, it's legal to extract or synthesize.  
Nepetalactones cause the same brain cells to fire that fire during kitty-
orgasm, which tends to explain some of the wild parasexual behavior 
induced by catnip.

Kay
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: levine@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Lenore Levine)
Subject: Re: My favorite type of cat
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:55:47 GMT

ramirez@julia.math.ucla.edu (Alice Ramirez) writes:

>Ah, now that you've asked about our favorite cat type...I don't
>know who you are, but thank you Mystery Poster.  Sorry I didn't
>catch your name.

>My favorite FAVORITE type of cat is the fluffy brown tabby. Especially
>the sub-type of LARGE fluffy brown tabby. The kind that looks as if it might
>have Maine Coon Cat lineage.  I'm not talking about full-blooded Persian
>cats here, but that sort of mix of Persian or Maine Coon with Alley.

>Booger the Bad (R.I.P.) was a fluffy brown tabby.  Bubbles the Big is a fluffy
>brown tabby.  They have a certain personality about them, combined of 
>cheerful arrogance and buttery-oily charm.  This last tends
>to come out VERY strongly when they want something from you.  

>Fluffy Brown Tabbies are intelligent, sometimes
>fiendishly so (Booger the Bad knew how to open all my kitchen cabinets and
>how to get into the neighbors' kitchens. No loaf of bread was safe from him, 
>nor boxes of powdered skimmed milk, nor leftovers, nor corn cobs).  Also, 
>as I said before, very charming, often stubborn.  These are cats with minds 
>of their own.  I have never known a dumb brown tabby, fluffy or otherwise.  

>They are also, in my humble OPINION (Please don't flame me, I'm admitting
>this is only my opinion, my insane prejudice) the quintessential CAT.
>No cat, in my opinion, is cattier, more catlike, than the magnificent
>fluffy brown tabby.

I like all kinds of cats. I can't really say that the fluffy brown
tabby is my favorite kind of cat. However, I have a fluffy brown
torbie (tortoiseshell tabby) now. And, I must say, she is the cutest,
most arrogant, spoiled little monster-devil I have ever known in my
life!

Lenore Levine

Do/did Booger and Bubbles have a meep instead of a meow? Purr whenever
you touched them?
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: Jack_Webb@mindlink.bc.ca (Jack Webb)
Subject: Re: Home Alone: for how long?
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 22:53:14 GMT

> Dan Sugalski writes:
>
> Msg-ID: <1gu9aqINNjlv@nigel.msen.com>
> Posted: 19 Dec 1992 04:43:56 GMT
>
> Org.  : Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
>
> Marios Leventopoulos (mml@eng.umd.edu) wrote:
>
> : Xmas is comming, and we are planning a trip to my family, a six hour
> drive.
>
> : We are trying to decide what to do with our kitties. They are now 5
> : months old, and we are not sure if we should take them with us, or leave
> them home.
> : We wont be back for 5 days at least, and it is not easy (this time of
> year) to find someone
> : that will agree to take care of them.
>
> We regularly travle with our cats and dogs.  These trips include regular
> trips to CT (about 15 hours) and occaisional trips to OR (3-5 days).
> We're going to VA for new years, taking Spike and the 2 dogs.  The other 4
> cats will stay at home with a friend to drop in and check up on them.
>
> Travelling with cats isn't bad, just allow them time to get used to the
> car and if you use it, the carrier.
>
> Karen
>

I really must discourage you from leaving such a young cat home for that
length of time.  There are SO many things that kittens get into, chew, eat...
it's too dangerous.

If you can't take him with you, I suggest hiring a petsitter to come in.
They are generally reliable, provide your pet with company, and keep an eye
on the house at the same time.  Either that, or board him.  Fewer and fewer
people can find relatives or friends to look after their pets... wouldn't you
rather have someone you were paying to do the job, instead of someone who
feels inconvenienced by the request, who doesn't necessarily understand
animals?

(as you can see, I'm a bit of a petsitting advocate. :)

*j*

--
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*******************Jack_Webb@mindlink.bc.ca***********************
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: petitc@nuge106.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Subject: Ghost Kitty Story
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:23:40 GMT

  I remember hearing about this one blind owner who had a really nice kitty---
long fur and a distinctive raspy purr.  Well, unfortunately, the kitty died.

  The owner was stricken with grief for a few days.  One night, though, he was
sitting in a chair, and felt a weight on his lap, and heard that familiar
raspy purr.  He cried tears of joy and stroked the (now dead) kitty.

  Anyone else have some cute kitty stories?


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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: petitc@vccnw04.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Subject: Re: End of an Era
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 18:48:23 GMT

diana@wetware.com (CatWoman ) writes:

>I'm going to miss her - but I do know it was best - she was
>not "Chaplin", and since we can treat our animals humanely,
>I was able to give her a good life, and a dignified end.

  Condolences on the loss of your kitty.  At least she did have, as you said,
a dignified end.


-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: mary@zmax.com (Mary Papp)
Subject: Re: socks
Organization: Z/Max Computer Solutions, Inc.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:10:40 GMT

>Try putting a sock over your cat's head for a couple of minutes.  It doesn't
>know where the hell it's at, and it just sits there.

What happenend when you took it off?  Did it attack you?  An ex-boyfriend of
mine did this to one of my cats and after he took it off she lunged at him.
She was pissed and so was I.

I hate it when people torture my cats.  That's why whenever they do it and get
hurt (i.e, the cat slices them up) I always say "You deserved it." 


Mary and Slash
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