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From: rudi@salyko.doit.sub.org (Rudi Gaul)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: GERMAN: karzinogen vs kanzerogen
Keywords: QUESTION
Date: 27 Mar 92 02:40:04 GMT

gernot@john.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Gernot Starke) writes:

>Hi folks out there,
>any german medi-expert could please explain the difference between

>"kanzerogen" and "karzinogen".

>Ich habe nahezu Hab-und-Gut darauf verwettet, dass sie NICHT dasselbe
>bedeuten...
>Danke
>gernot@rwthi3.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
gernot@john.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Gernot Starke) writes:

>Hi folks out there,
>any german medi-expert could please explain the difference between

>"kanzerogen" and "karzinogen".

>Ich habe nahezu Hab-und-Gut darauf verwettet, dass sie NICHT dasselbe
>bedeuten...
>Danke
>gernot@rwthi3.informatik.rwth-aachen.de

hi gernot,
you lost.......! i'm sorry :-((

Quelle: Pschyrembel, Klinisches Woerterbuch 254. Auflage S. 584 und 588.

Kanzerogene Substanzen (lat cancer, cancris krebs; gr gennao erzeuge) f:
s: Karzinogene

Karzinogen: Karzinom erzeugend; syn. kanzerogen, Kanzerogenitaet.

Rudi
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From: tnguyen@nml2sun.hsc.usc.edu (trudy nguyen)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Period during Pregnancy
Date: 6 Apr 1992 12:53:38 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: nml2sun.hsc.usc.edu

Hi...
	I don't think woman can have period during pregnancy

Trudy Nguyen
From: Joe.Noel@f13.n3805.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Noel)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Precision Diamond Radial Keratotomy
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:51:43 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3805/13 - NightShift, Wichita Falls TX

I have extreme myopia and have recently attended a seminar on Precision 
Diamond Radial keratotomy.  I would be interested in hearing from anyone who 
has had any experiences with this proceedure both good and especially bad. The 
Doctor who put on the seminar talked a good story but I tend to not believe 
all statistics since he is trying to sell this procedure and make money.
Specifically I would especially like to hear from anyone with extreme myopia 
that has had the procedure.  How bad is the "glare" effect and the "starburst" 
effect?  Does this effect you at night to the extent that you can not drive?  
Any other suggestions will be appreciated.

This board has been subscribing to this sub for a short time and I enjoy 
reading all the threads.  I have learned much pertaining to some of the 
patients I see as an EMT-I.


                                                JOE NOEL



 

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From: gpkatch@alcor.concordia.ca (Gary Katch)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Antihistamines, colds, and pills.
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:41:46 GMT
Organization: Concordia University, Montreal.

This morning my girlfriend looked in my medicine cabinet, and found my
Seldane (terfenadine) tablets, which I keep for for controlling my cat
allergies on social visits.  She complained about having a runny nose
all night and decided to take one.  I protested because I know it is an
antihistamine, which is specifically for allergic reactions, and not
mild colds.  But she said she often takes [chlorhexadrine?] during colds
and it helps.  I am guessing that there is a decongestant in that stuff
if it is a cold remedy.

I got angry because I think she is much too quick to pop pills for
things;  I have known her to take expired or friends' prescriptions at
times.  She is also taking some presciption migraine medication at the
moment, I think called sandomigrin [sp?].  I have been unable to find
this last in a drug encyclopedia.

Now, am I being overly cautious, or is she treating over-the-counter
drugs with too little respect?   She dismissed my concerns saying that
these medicines can't do any harm even if they do no good.  Also, she
claims her doctor would have warned her about mixing other drugs with
the migraine pills.

Do I understand correctly about antihistamines?  Who knows about
sandomigrin?   Any help appreciated.

-- gk.
From: Rich.Sagall@f301.n132.z1.fidonet.org (Rich Sagall)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Recommendations for an Excellent Medical Clinic
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:36:45 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:132/301 - Bangor ROS, Bangor ME

> From: weisenfl@sunshine.ICS.UCI.EDU (Barbara Weisenfluh)
> I am seeking knowledgeable recommendations for the best
> medical facility
> to go to for a diagnosis of severe pain in the lower back
> area, cause unknown.
> The Mayo Clinic is the only one with which we are
> familiar, and wonder
> if this would be the best place to go.  Many tests and
> many physicians
> have not really yielded a sound diagnosis.

Why are you searching for the "best clinic" for back pain? You mention you had 
many tests and have seen many physicians. If they, assuming you have 
reasonable doctors, have not been able to find the cause, then why think more 
doctors and more tests will find the cause?
 My experience is that the more normal tests and the more doctors seen who 
can't find the cause, the less likely more tests or consultations will.
 Most back pain is muscular in nature and there is no simple treatment. It's 
tough to admit, but more often than not there is no definable cause.
 This is only my advice and not meant to substitute for medical care!
 Rich Sagall, MD
 


 

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From: tas@pegasus.com (Len Howard)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Estrogen/Progestin therapy
Summary: Bad side effects from HRT?
Keywords: estrogen, progestin
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:25:21 GMT
Followup-To: sci.med
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu

In article <1992Apr8.182822.933@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Isabelle.Marie-Anne.Rosso@dartmouth.edu (Isabelle Marie-Anne  Rosso) writes:
>Hello,
>       My endocrinologist wants to put me on Estrogen/progestin
>replacement therapy because of my (extremely) low estrogen levels. His
>motivation is to prevent osteoporosis.  
>       Does this treatment have any bad side-effects that I should know
>about?
>Isabelle.Rosso@Dartmouth.edu

Hi, Isabelle,  A quick answer to your question would be "NONE" but
there are sometimes side-effects that result from the process of
establishing the proper dose and method of administration.

I have also had a few patients that are allergic to horse serum and
show mild sensitivity to Premarin tablets.  

There are basically two ways of giving the medications:
In women past menopause we can often give both pills every day and
prevent any menstrual periods at all while still getting the benefits
of the replacement therapy.
When you are first starting you may notice some breast tenderness
similar to what many women experience prior to menses.  You may also
notice some "fullness" in the vagina, due to the stimulating effect of
the estrogen on the vulva and vagina.

All these side-effects, except the allergy, are self-limiting or dose
related.  If you are sensitive to horse serum, you could use a
synthetic, lab produced estrogen product that contains no equine
proteins.

Recent studies have demonstrated a high degree of safety and benefit,
and the recommendation is that all postmenopausal women other than
those with estrogen dependent tumors, or thromboembolic disease should
take the pills.  Non-smokers even show a reduction in risk of stroke
and heart attck.

Good luck.                           Len Howard
From: jean@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jean Jasinski)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:11:57 GMT
Subject: Re: Is baloon angioplasty safe?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: sci.med

I saw the same article that was quoted here.  It was from some
wellness newsletter subscription solicitation.  The doctor was
some well-known Californian physican (I can't remember his name,
he might have been from the SF Bay Area) who has runs an Institute 
named after himself and writes articles for a Southern California
newspaper.  His first name was Julian but that's all I can remember.
Heck I perused through my junk mail after midnight having just taken
a biochem exam so my brain was not in peak condition.

Anyone know anything about this guy?  Is he a reputable source?  Is
this publication a "rag"?

Jean Jasinski
From: mannonen@kontu.cc.utu.fi (MANNONEN)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: insomnia
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:57:12 GMT
Organization: University of Turku, Finland

In article <1992Apr08.084503.21521@phlpa.UUCP>, scott@phlpa.UUCP (Scott Scheingold) write
                                                                                        
> Case history (brief)
> 
> I suffer from AIDS
> Meds: Imipramine (Anti-depressent) 200MG at bed time.
>       DDI and zantac.
> Disabled
> Smoker
> Scott

	I'm no doctor but i'd change imipramine to a more sedative
	antidepressant, eg. trimipramine.
From: scott@phlpa.UUCP (Scott Scheingold)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: insomnia
Keywords: insomnia
Date: 8 Apr 92 08:45:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: phlpa.1992Apr08.084503.21521
Organization: Ian's Playhouse



Hello net,

I am writing this at 4:30AM because I can not sleep. I have not had
a good nights sleep in about 4 days. I am about at the end of my rope.
I go through these phases and they last one to two weeks. Each time it
happens it get harder and harder. I will explain below. 

Case history (brief)

I suffer from AIDS
Meds: Imipramine (Anti-depressent) 200MG at bed time.
      DDI and zantac.
Disabled
Smoker

I am not that active due to cronic fatigue and tire very easily but
have not been sleeping even when tired. I get about an hour of sleep
every 5hrs or so. I am here phyiscly but my mind is not here do to the
lack of sleep. I have tried warm milk, cold milk and even some
alcohol. (Just one drink. I know itis not good but I will try anything)
I have taken sleeping pills but the only one that does not make me a zombie
for days is halcion. All others seem to stay in my system for a couple of
days.

I am sorry if this post is wierd but I don't think straight these days.

Scott
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Newsgroups: sci.med
From: yazz@locus.com (Bob Yazz)
Subject: Re: Chronic congested sinus relief drug help sought
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 22:23:12 GMT

sude@hpbbi4.BBN.HP.COM (#Susanne Denninger) writes:

| Put 2-3 teabags of camomile tea into the boiling water. Put a towel over your
| head so that the steam cannot "escape". Breath the steam for 5 to 10 minutes. 
| Stay in a warm place for a while after this.

Camomile is closely related to ragweed, a common allergen, so there is a
class of people for whom camomile is very much the wrong treatment.

It's fine for everybody else, tho.

== Bob Yazz ==
-- 
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Lead, follow or get out of the way.  Unless, of course, you're the FDA.
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: prAspirin and Prostaglandins
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:15:25 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <abdh023Lbf7r00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> lmtra@uts.amdahl.com (Leon Traister) writes:
>Many people, men especially, take small doses of aspirin daily if they
>have cardiac risk factors.  The aspirin is said to be an
>"anti-prostaglandin" agent.  OK, so what are the functions of
>prostaglandins; would an anti-prostaglandin have any effect on male
>fertility?

It is the antiplatelet activity that is desired, not the anti-prostaglandin.
At least when it comes to cerebrovascular disease, and I suspect the same
for cardiovascular disease.  A recent study showed that 30mg/day of
ASA was enough to confer that benefit, and at these doses, the
antiprostaglandin effects are not coming in yet. 
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geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu   |  to supply you with an understanding." -S.Johnson
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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Sunday, 12 Apr 1992 18:57:49 MST
From: <ICBAL@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject:    Cause of Abnormally Low Sodium Level?

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what could be causing an abnormally
low sodium level?  (There has been no excessive sweating or dehydration,
and all other standard blood tests are normal.)

Bruce Long
icbal@asuvm.inre.asu.edu
Newsgroups: sci.med,sci.engr.biomed,sci.electronics
From: ieeu0026@cs.montana.edu (Blaine Kubesh)
Subject: Here is how a pulse oximeter works
Organization: Montana State University, Dept. of Computer Science, Bozeman MT 59717
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 20:46:32 GMT

I recently posted an article asking for information about pulse oximetry.
Well I recieved some input and did find some information
in my research activities.... to those who are interested...

I still need to find out how to get an impedance reading or similar of
respiration rate. 

From Wolfbeis, Otto S. "Fiber Optic Chemical Sensors and Biosensors"
Volume 2. CRC Press May 1991.

	A pulsatile arterial bed (such as a patients earlobe or toe)
	is sandwiched between a pair of LEDs (emitting 660 and 925nm)
	A fiber bundle which sends transmitted light of both wavelengths
	to a photodetector. The intensity of light eaching the photodiode
	is determined by the pigmentation and thickness of the skin and
	the absorption of venous and arterial blood in the tissue. The 
	absorbance of the skin and venous blood is constant; that of 
	the arterial blood changes because of pulsatile blood flow.
	The constant background can be subtracted from the arterial
	signal in the usual way.

and it also mentioned...

It has been shown that acquiring the whole spectrum of blood using a
diode array spectrometer yields even more information. Instead of reflection
absorption is measured. ... Relative amounts of oxyhemoglobin, hemoglobin,
and carbooxyhemoglobin can be determined within 30 seconds with a precision
of about 15%. Alternatively, oxygen sat. can be measured with a guided wave
spectroscopic sensor fabricated from low cost optical components.

-------------------

problem solved...  thanks for the input. 
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From: dsr@chickpea.mitre.org (Douglas S. Rand)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Class action against FDA
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:24:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: chickpea.DSR.92Apr15122410
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

In article <1470167@hpwrce.HP.COM> kingsley@hpwrce.HP.COM (Kingsley Morse) writes:

   I got a message from Bill at the Life Extension Foundation saying that over
   100 people have signed the affidavit so far. The LEF can be reached at their
   800 number. Call 800-555-1212 to get their 800 phone number.

* FLAME ON *

Really,  over 100 out of 300,000,000 people have signed it?  Wow.
Pretty soon this will be a movement.  Then a trend.  I know if I were
a congressman I'd be as worried as if I bounced house bank checks.

* FLAME OFF * 

Just so I don't come off as entirely snide.  There are a couple
million people who have access to this nonsense and maybe even know
about the LEF and it's, IMHO misguided, effort.  That still leaves the
100 signatories as a pretty small representative part.  Don't you
think this shows a rather dismal level of support?


--
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Internet:   <dsrand@mitre.org>
Snail:	    MITRE, Burlington Road, Bedford, MA 
Disclaimer: MITRE might agree with me - then again...
Amateur Radio: KC1KJ
From: jrb@unssun.nevada.edu (John Becker)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Causing breasts to lactate
Date: 11 Apr 92 23:05:23 GMT
Reply-To: jrb@unssun.UUCP (John Becker)
Distribution: sci.med
Organization: University of Nevada-Reno


I am posting this for a friend.

She wants to know if it's possible to make a woman's breasts
produce milk other than by having a baby.

Any responses will be forwarded to her.  Thanks in advance.


Newsgroups: sci.med
From: ara@zurich.ai.mit.edu (Allan Adler)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: selling organs
Date: 7 Apr 92 07:39:24 GMT
	<s_lj5t+.ccat@netcom.com> <10354@optilink.UUCP>
Organization: M.I.T. Artificial Intelligence Lab.

As Bob Dylan sings in one of his songs, "Money doesn't talk--it swears!"

Allan Adler
ara@altdorf.ai.mit.edu
From: rick@ofa123.fidonet.org (Rick Ellis)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Hair Loss suggestions
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 17:50:15 PDT
Organization: Universal Electronics Inc. (Public access BBS)

On <Apr 06 11:30> bando writes:

 b>  Does anybody have any suggestions on how to prevent hair loss 
 b> (baldness)?

Superglue?
--  
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From: chrisc@pro-nbs.cts.com (Chris Carstens)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: $2 Bill
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:35:47 GMT
Organization: ProLine [pro-nbs] San Diego (Tierrasanta), CA.  (619) 571-0152

Fee for Consulting Services Rendered

4/9/92

Amount due:  $2.00

Please remit within 30 days.

Thank you.

-----------------------------------
Please pass this $2.00 bill along to your kitty.

Chris.
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From: tas@pegasus.com (Len Howard)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Brainless legal decisions about newborns.
Summary: Change the definition?
Keywords: brain death, brainstem life
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:23:48 GMT
Followup-To: sci.med
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu

It would seem that with our sophisticated EEGs and MRIs we would be
able to construct a definition of 'brain death' that would be
funtional rather than anatomic, and would take into consideration the
complete lack of cerebellar and cerebral structures in the
anencephalic infant.  Application of 'brain death' criteria to a body
that does not have a brain seems to be alomst oxymoronic.

If it were not that the absence of reason in this problem is
preventing as many as six other infants from being helped, I would
have a good chuckle about it, but there is need for change.  So let's
get with it.....who is responsible for the definition of brain death,
and what must be done to get it changed, and who is going to do it?

Shalom,                               Len Howard - who only delivers
anancephalic infants.....I don't define their 'brain dead' status.
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: dsc@gemini.tmc.edu (Doug S. Caprette Bldg. 28 W191 x3892)
Subject: Re: How the FDA "protects" us
Organization: NASA GSFC CDP VLBI
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:10:52 GMT

In article <1992Apr04.094734.0216837@locus.com> yazz@locus.com (Bob Yazz) writes:
>
>Nicotine addiction is a medical reality.
>
What is the appropriate newsgroup for the discussion of nicotine addiction?

Alt.drugs is for the discussion of illegal (in the U.S.) drugs.
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: Self tanners (was Re: Tanning Re: Lime juice...) 
Keywords: self-tanning creams  
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 15:25:33 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.143845.11106@brtph560.bnr.ca> merylf@brtph115.bnr.ca (Meryl W. Freeman) writes:
>Speaking of tanning, does anyone know how these new self tanners work? They
>are advertised as containing no dyes, and you get a "natural looking tan
>in two to three hours." I believe the active ingredient is dihydroxyacetone,
>but please don't quote me on that.

I don't know why they'd be described as "new"; "tanning" lotions containing
dihydroxyacetone (QT) have been around for 30 years or so.  

They don't produce a real tan; that is, you don't get any protection
from burning from the color change.  Dihydroxyacetone is considered
fairly harmless--it's a natural metabolite of glycerol.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: Dave.Giunti@p0.f475.n10.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Giunti)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Selling Organs
Date: 11 Apr 92 13:17:38 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:10/475.0 - Nightingale BBS, San Francisco CA

Reply to: ccat@netcom.com (Chris Beaumont)

> Re: organ selling-
>   As far as I know this is already going on in the Peoples Republic
> of China. (don't refer me to alt.folklore.urban ,because this has been
> verified by Chinese students I know- It's already been discussed in the
> foreign (never-as far as I know- in America) press.
>  Evidently, the Chinese government (actually, hospitals owned by the
> chinese govt.) actually advertise in papers in some of the richer Far
> Eastern countries.
>
> Come to China and get a kidney-!  No wait!!
>
> And of course the family of the hapless "undesirable" who is
> "harvested" for his kidney or cornea receives none of the money...

  Chris,
  The Indians have had a similar, for profit, system for a number of
years.  60 Minutes did a piece on it within the past year. The donors are
paid, but after the money is gone, their mortality rate is high: they
speculated that poor diet contributed.  The recivers don't do much better.
An MD in Abu Dubi (gulf state) suggested that in some areas the for
profit Indian blood supply is 75% HIV contaminated.
   Dave
 
 

 

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From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: The Surgeon General misuses statistics again!
Keywords: Teens, drugs, alcohol
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:35:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.45356
Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department


On the major news programs, the Surgeon General has condemned substance
use by teenagers, citing various incidences of use by those who commit
suicide, etc.  This is the classic confusion with correlation and 
causality. 

In fact, other than comparing the proportions of use in the various
categories, there is no indication of how a control group would "rate"
on these items.
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Phone: (317)494-6054
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From: time@coos.dartmouth.edu (Susan M. Kennedy)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: another amiltryptiline ?
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:15:33 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

After trying a number of treatments(1st aspirin etc,then fiorinal, then beta
blockers) for daily headaches( daily from day 1 to day 14, most commonly day
5-14 of my menstral cycle and rarely day 15-28) which would sometimes explode
into what I called migrains, mostly because of noise and light hypersensitvity
and nausia, but often remained at the dull ache stage, my Dr. percribed amiltry-
tiline. After some initial problems with side effects(nausea and dizziness I
have settled on a dose of 20mg./ day.  I have had two of the migraine types in
4 months, but this is a vast improvement over near daily pain and I am very
pleased( I've lived with this to a greator or lessor degree since I turned 13
and I'm now 42).  I have always thought there was some hormone connection, but
pinpointing just what was going on seemed impossible. I know that this dose is
far below the anti-depressant dose and my Dr. says he really does not know why
this is effective.  Do any of you Net Docs or other pharmicutical experts have
an explanation?