HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: noemi@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Noemi Berry)
Subject: Re: calling mature riders
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 22:36:06 GMT

>>well, if we're going to start a benefit, noemi might as well be the 
>>logical choice.  noemi send me your snail mail address.  i have $5
>>to make your new total a measily $2995.

>HEY!
>She *has* a motorcycle!
>Shouldn't donations flow to the greatest need?
>Ed Green

ok, Ed -- i donate my Kawi to you.  speaking of flowing to the
greatest need, i recommend you buy stock in your favorite oil
company, as you will now be its most regular customer.

i'll take the donations.  :-)

noemi
*---------------------------------------------------------------------*
noemi@cs.ucla.edu (for now)     				KotSBL
DoD #443  						'82 KZ 305 CSR
						    (what's left of it)
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From: hesh@cup.hp.com (Chris Steinbroner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Nude riding is dangerous (was Re: Risk takers)
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:31:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: cup.BvCopA.DqB
Reply-To: Chris Steinbroner <hesh@cup.hp.com>
Organization: HP-UX Kernel Lab, Cupertino, CA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Lissa Shoun (shoun@netcom.com) wrote:
: Oh, forgot to thank Hesh for taking the trouble to scan these in.

i deny any involvement in such.

disclaimers 'r' us,

-- hesh
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jcn@rice.edu ()
Subject: Re: I won? (NOT!)
Organization: Rice University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:10:43 GMT

ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:

>Sebastian C Sears (scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu) wrote:
>: 	The bad news is I'm told (please tell me if I'm wrong) that because
>: I hit him from behind it will be called my fault. This sucks as we called the
>: cops and it's going to go to my insurance company who will raise my rates
>: but won't pay for the damage I did to his car. All I did to my bike was
>: crunch one crash bar and highway peg.

>Yep, from your own description I would say it was your fault.  If you hit
>someone from behind then you weren't leaving yourself enough following
>distance.  I know this is hard to do in New York, but on a motorcycle you
>*really* need to be parnoid about what the cagers are going to do and
>leave room to stop.

I'll second this.  My mom used to work for an insurance agent (but I still 
love her) and she said that there are few if any excuses for hitting someone 
from the rear.  Legally, the guy/gal in front may be doing something wrong, 
but insurance-wise, even if the person is travelling backward down the 
raod with no lights on and you hit them, well, the ever thoughtful 
insurance cronies still say it partially your fault!  God I love insurance 
companies.  I mean, who else would catagorize a Suzuki GS500E in the 
same insurance rating bracket as a GSXR1100?


--
*  Jeff Nichols                 |   I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay. * 
*  DoD#0402         AMA#?!@#*%  |   Ride:  GS500E    		   *
*  It's a dog-eat-dog world out there, and I'm wearing milkbone    *
*  underwear--  Norm Peterson					   *
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Faulty chain adjustment
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Date: 29 Sep 92 12:44:14 -0600
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Distribution: world
Organization: MSUS

In article <29SEP92105121@fnalo.fnal.gov>, krafft@fnalo.fnal.gov
(N07732_KRAFFT, KEITH G.) wrote:
> 
[...]
> 
> What I'm asking is, has anyone's chain busted or fallen off at
> highway speeds?
> 

Yes!  While countersteering my BMW!
From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Drinking & Helmets
Date: 29 Sep 92 00:03:48 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62003.student.cwru.edu

In article <973@amtfocus.amt.gss.mot.com>, jimwy@amtfocus.amt.gss.mot.com
(Jim Wygralak) wrote:
> 

> Has anyone come up with any clever solutions to enable them to
> consume liquid refreshments while suited up?

Yeah, it's called a Camel Back.  It's basically a bladder that you
wear like a back-pack.  With a straw that comes over your shoulder
and a valve on the end that you operate by biting on.

> Jim Wygralak  708-632-6908     | Motorola Cellular  Arlington Heights, IL

| Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834 | DoD #207  AMA #573534|
| Case Western Reserve U. Computer E. and Sci.  | KotNML  /  KotB      |
| "You can lead the house to order, but you     | '81 CB750C           |
| can't make it think"  -William Weld (Gov. Ma.)| '88 Bianchi Limited  |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: K75 counterbalancer? (Was: BMW K100rs)
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:46:03 GMT

pooder@msus1.msus.edu writes:
> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
>> joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner) writes:
 
>>>my understanding is that the 3cyl bike has the balancer.

>> But why would it need one? A 120 degree triple is smoother than a 180
>> degree four by nature. Anyone got the shop manual handy?

>From my Haynes BMW K100 & 75 Owners Workshop Manual:

>  On 75 models two balancer weights are incorporated in the [output] shaft
>  to cancel out the rocking couple produced by the motion of the two outer
>  pistons and thus eliminate the only vibration source inherent in any 120
>  degree triple.

Ok, now I'm convinced. But it sure seems weird that BMW put a balancer
on the smoother triple, and not on the buzzy four.

>Exactly what "rocking couple" means, I don't know.  Maybe one of our British 
>friends can enligten me?

I'm not British, but I'll give it a shot. It's the tendancy for the
engine to rock side-to-side, as opposed to hopping up & down. A parallel
twin with a 360 degree crankshaft has both pistons moving up & down
together, so you get a nice thump at the top & bottom of each stroke. A
parallel twin with a 180 degree crank supposedly has perfect primary
balance, because the motion of one piston up is counteracted by the
motion of the other piston down. But you've still got crankshaft weights 
causing an imbalance, and that's what the balancer shaft weights are
there to counteract.

Corrections and/or flames are welcome. :-)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: jeg@beach.cis.ufl.edu (John Gelnaw)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Drilling my own discs
Summary: holes cool too
Keywords: brakes holes cooling
Date: 4 Oct 92 17:24:36 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

In article <1992Sep25.132650.3074@ohrd.uucp> ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu (Jody Levine) writes:
>
>No. Vented rotors, that is rotors that have a bunch of blades sandwiched
>between the two plated that the pads rub against, are for cooling. The holes
>in ordinary, non-vented rotors are for extra grab and do help do give water
>a place to go. I read this in some rag and they specifically mentioned that
>the holes are not for cooling.
>
>I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
>     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
>                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Actually, you're both right... the drilled holes not only give the water a 
place to go on the first sweep, they also provide cooling, and here's how:

When you hit the brakes, you're using friction to stop the bike... this
friction translates into heat quite rapidly.  The more heat buildup, the less 
efficient the brakes are for stopping.  The faster you can brush this heat 
off, so to speak, the more efficient the brakes are, and the faster you stop.

Now, when you drill the holes through the disc, you're doing something very
important... you're increasing surface area.  The more surface area of the 
disc that's exposed to the air, therefore you have more heat dissapation.

The actual mathematics I could provide, however, for brevity (strange concept
on here, I know...) I'm gonna skip 'em for now.

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| John Gelnaw | jeg@cis.ufl.edu - belgarath@ufcc.circa.ufl.edu | GR-650d |
| It hasn't occurred to the University of Florida that I might have an   |
| opinion.								 |
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: greer@sunland.gsfc.nasa.gov (Greg Greer)
Subject: Re: Goofy saddlebags?
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:14:16 GMT

In article <73074@apple.Apple.COM> thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson)
writes:

   I've always used a tankbag to hold my stuff when I go on trips on my
   CBR600, but I found a problem with this on my last trip:  with so much
   weight up high, the back of the bike has a tendency to come right off
   the ground under hard braking.  (And shortly afterwards it decides it
   wants to pass the rest of the bike!)

   Saddlebags would seem to be the obvious solution to this - has anyone
   put saddlebags on a Goof2, and if so, what kind were they and how did
   they work out?

A friend of mine has a CBR600 and a set bags from Eclipse made for
sportbikes.  It's basically a set of weird-looking little saddle bags
and a small tailpack.  The bags are long nose-to-tail, but don't hang
down very far so as to stay well away from the pipes.  The tail end of
the bags are connected by the bottom of the tailpack; the nose end by
some nylon webbing.  Depending on the configuration of your tail
section, you may even be able to get a passenger on between you and
the tail pack.  I should say that _on_the_bike_ the bags aren't
weird-looking.  There's a matching duffle bag available which attaches
to the bags and sits on the seat in front of the tail pack.

I use the bigger Eclipse tail pack -- no saddle bags.  The tail pack
is about the same capacity as a tank bag, but taller rather than long.
(You can get a helmet in it.)  It sits on the passenger seat and has
nifty intgrated, hideaway bungy hooks to attach it.  Two small side
pockets, extra rear pocket, and rain cover and shoulder strap are
included.

All of this stuff is used in conjunction with tank bags.  Gotta keep
the map handy.

Greg	
'92 Ducati 907ie, in black
----------------
Greg Greer,     August Automation, Inc., Software Developers
301-286-5999    at Code 743, NASA/GSFC, Greenbelt, Md. 20771
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Almost had it stolen tonite!
Date: 26 Sep 92 12:35:49 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: na
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH

dschlot@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Dave Schlotthauer) writes:

>Something is definitley not right. As I'm thinking that, two big, and I
>mean BIG guys jump out of the back seat of the car. Not about to just
>give these thugs my bike (3 month old FZR600), I flip up my visor, put
>the kickstand down and turn as far around as I can go without actually
>getting off my bike. Now here is where it gets interesting. These guys
>stop dead in their tracks about a foot and a half behind me and smile.
>Big, stupid, shit-eating grins on their faces. I glance at the car
>quickly and notice that there is another guy (driving), and a girl of
>about 15 years old laughing her pimply face off.

[more stuff about possible bike-jacking deleted]

>The light turns
>green and I proceed (quickly) across the intersection. Unfortunatley,
>this street has several 4-way stop signs and they stay behind me. I
>decide to go through the less traveled streets on the way to my house to
>be certain that they are not following me. They most definatley are.
>I have now had enough of this so I go straight to my house (mistake?)
>turn off the ingnition, jump off my bike, rip off my helmet and assume 
>a fighting position (8 years of boxing). The car pulls up slowly and
>almost stops and shit if they dont have the turn signal on to pull in
>my driveway. I start getting a little more nervous now, but by now I am
>more angry than anything else. I motion for them to come on up the
>driveway and what do they do????? They leave. I waited outside for about
>10 more minutes but they didn't come back.
>
>Did I do the right things? What should I have done different? I'm
>thinking now that it was wrong to go to my own house, but should I 
>have gone into a neighbors driveway?

Interesting question.  Assuming you and your bike were legal, I would
suggest riding to the nearest police station and pull into the lot 
with lights blinking,  horns blowing, and the engine revving.

That ought to get their attention.



-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
                              DoD # 0698
From: martin@adpgate.UUCP (Martin Golding)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Side-car rigs?
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:47:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: adpplz.1606
Distribution: usa
Organization: ADP Dealer Services R&D, Portland, OR

cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:

: I have an '81 Maxim 650. Is this big enough to take a sidecar rig?

Certainly. wait- how fast did you say you wanted to go?


: Are there aftermarket/custom sidecar rigs for a bike like mine?

Yes, though not specifically.


: Are they easily detachable (no, not at high speeds, damnit)?

Yes, some at least.


: Any idea how much something like that would cost?

$400-$2000+, depending whether it's used and who helps you install it.


: Any other mods that the bike needs to handle the extra stresses?

Ideally, a new frame and an Earles fork front, but people get away
without it. Just don't fly the car too much if you don't build up the
frame and suspension.


: Just how difficult is it to do little things like steer and brake?

As easy as a pig with handlebars, ie, not as good as a 70's Toronado OHP.

: Where can I go for more info so I can quit botherin' you guys?

Ummm- the FAQ?


OBob: :-) :-) :-)

          Martin Golding             |  Handling is a concept 
DoD #236 BMWMOA #55952 WMTC #0002    |   that doesn't apply to sidecars.
[motcsd!]mcspdx!adpgate!martin
From: shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: More gasohol
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:22:52 GMT
Organization: Office of 'Tude Licensing

In article <dbc-280992122223@b62003.student.cwru.edu>, dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson) writes:
> > If my engine is set up for regular fuel and I ride through a mandatory
> > alcohol state, I'll have to rejet or damage my engine.  Further down
> > the road and I may have to rejet again.  Get the picture?
> 
> Yeah, I had that picture already Roid.  Maybe you could go bolt on
> aftermarket EFI?

Sure!  The Accel kit runs around $1700.  Contributions can be sent to:

Roid EFI Fund
c/o Seth Zirin
PO Box 43
Basking Ridge, NJ 07920

All contributions will be gratefully acknowledged with an autographed 
collector photo of Roid being loud at the RCR.  Write those checks today!

- Roid
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From: clayb@county.lmt.mn.org (Clay Babcock)
Subject: Re: 1982 Seca Turbo Plastic WANTED.
Organization: LaserMaster R&D, Minneapolis, MN  USA
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 19:47:48 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.040122.28637@zip.eecs.umich.edu> jacbop@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Thomas Wilberding) writes:
>From: jacbop@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Thomas Wilberding)
>Subject: 1982 Seca Turbo Plastic WANTED.
>Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 04:01:22 GMT

>Any one know where I could find a lower fairing for
>and 82 XJ Seca LJ?

>It's such at beautiful bike (IMHO) and it
>seems sooo naked without its pants on.

>I found a cracked and repainted one at a salvage yard
>in the area but after repainting, it just wouldn't
>be worth it.

>I would consider having it repaired, but I don't
>have the pieces anymore.

>Thanks in advance,
>Tom

>PS any other Turbo owners have an problems with the forks
>My seals are shot, but I'm not sure if that came
>from storing it for a year and a half or if
>Yamaha overloaded the poor buggers (over 600 lbs
>with fuel and passenger).


>-- 
>----------------------
>Tom Wilberding
>jacbop@eecs.umich.edu
>jacbop@engin.umich.edu


Tom,
Try Sport Wheels (612) 492-2715.  They are located just south of Minneapolis,
and have the largest collection of wreckers that I have ever seen.  I buy 
parts for my Turbo there, and have seen plastic on salvage bikes, and off
bike in their building.  They will ship UPS.

Re fork seals:  I replaced mine when I bought the bike 4 years ago, and they
are still doing fine.  But, I can only ride 8 months of the year... :^(

Clay Babcock
clayb@county.lmt.mn.org
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From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: We are sick and tired!!
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:24:31 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <1afkrkINNj7c@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan - Mick) writes:
> In a previous article, dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson) said:
> :- BTW, you been talkin' to pasker?  There sure weren't too many caps in
> :- that post of yours.
> 	pasker buys those no-shift-key keyboards from me! and as is
> 	evident from recent posts, he sure sounds one angry man! we see
> 	entire sentences in caps!!! i can safely claim the title of
> 	keeper of the lowercase! ;)

you can claim whatever you like, newbie-scum.

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
--
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Wind Triangles?  What are they?
Date: 27 Sep 92 21:13:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Clifford David Weston (cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU) wrote:
:<great description of the 'full-size' wind triangles deleted> 
: 
: aerostitch also markets the mini-wind triangle, a 16"x16"x24" device which goes
: 'round the neck of the wearer.  its function is to, err, break wind, swaddling
: the chosen one's neck whilst protecting it from rain, snow, and harsh gales.

This sounds suspiciously similar to an item worn by Boy Scouts.  Naaahh,
couldn't be. . .
--

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* Bill Ranck     DoD #496  ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu                            *
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From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: fuel/engine efficiency
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:02:24 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Jonathan E. Quist (jeq@i88.isc.com) wrote:
: What makes you think the technology would be patented?  According to

bob (lower case) pasker was the one who said big companies were buying
up the patents on new technologies to keep it off the market.  I was
just responding to that.

: a relative of a friend (ALERT: Possible Urban Legend) who has worked
: for IBM for a number of year, IBM's policy for a long time was to keep
: proprietary technology on the shelf until needed in the marketplace.
: When they needed an edge, they'd patent the idea, and put it on the market.
: That prevented the technology from getting into their competitors hands
: any sooner than necessary.  I'd be surprised if other large corporations
: hadn't used this strategy numerous times.

Notice that this doesn't keep technology off the market for very long.
Knowledge is a difficult genie to put back in the bottle.  Someone else
is likely to develop the same technology as the big company has, at which
point the big company can only invalidate the other guy's patent by showing
they had previous development.
   Sometime big companies keep stuff off the market because it isn't 
feasible to produce.  An interesting example is Allied Chemical company
and Kepone.  Allied had decided not to market Kepone.  Some of the chemical
engineers who had worked on the stuff asked if they could form their own
company and produce it under license.  Allied said yes, and "60 Minutes"
made big news out of it.  Now, if there hadn't been the environmental problems
with kepone, or Allied hadn't let the guys go independant with it some
conspiracy theorist would be saying that Allied had kept that wonderful
technology off the market for some nefarious purpose.  Truth was that
Allied had decided it wasn't worth producing, but some entrepenures insisted.

Now that is all I'm going to say on this thread because it has gone way
off topic.
--

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* Bill Ranck     DoD #496  ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu                            *
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From: kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: More gasohol
Summary: Hmmm
Date: 29 Sep 92 07:08:51 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <viking.717723247@vincent1.iastate.edu>, viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:

] 	Sounds to me like you've never had the opportunity to drive a
] Shelby 427 Cobra of any year.  Gutless?  The only thing that comes close
] is a Dodge Viper, and you'd think 25 years of refinement would allow the
] Viper to cream it.  It doesn't.  It barely stays even.

So? It's a cage.  Bring the Viper, and the Cobra, and your life
savings to _my_ house.  Englishtown Raceway is only 12 minutes away.
I'll be the guy on the FJ1200. 

                                                    Kevin
  
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: About those stickers.
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:25:09 GMT


 Hey hey hey,
 Never saw a response on the DoD sticker thang. Anymore to be had?
 Arnie the checks in the mail for two fobs. Trust me.
 Love that license plate frame. Course nobodys ever noticed it.
 
================================================================================
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 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
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From: rroberts@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ross Allan Roberts)
Subject: Re: DoD is a bad influence
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:16:42 GMT

daved@convex.com (David Dorfman) admits:
>You are all a bad influence on me , could you please step up the 
>number of postings on full leather riding apparel to make ammends for the
>corruption of my soul.

Well, there are many different kinds. First there are normal, with or
without Nonoxyol-9. Then for 'her pleasure', there are textured ones with
ribbs, knobs, and other protrusions. Beyond that are many important
considerations... reservoir tip? Length?

... oh... different riding leather. Never mind.

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#DoD#0340, still patiently awaiting the 6ooF2...  |'88 YFM350 Warrior         #
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