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From: root@evergreen.com
Subject: midi dead
Reply-To: root@evergreen.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 01:05:53 GMT

Does anyone record dead shows in a midi format?  It
would be interesting to listen to a show recorded this way.
I once read somewhere that bob bravlove had all the band
connected in such as way to make this possible.  Anyone have
any more info?
-jimmy
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Best Dead cover band yet.
From: <ADB103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 10:58:28 EST
Organization: Penn State University

I know I'm gonna get some flames for this post, but I can't resist.  The
music scene in this town has gone real dry in the past two years-Only one or
two bands have been able to rise above MTV music covers.--This is the kind
of band that alot of people may go see--but if you really look around the
bar,nobody's listening, or really paying attention.  This says more about
the people that goto PSU than the quality of the music.  A few years ago,
there was a very visable dead scene, in fact the band I play in now(we dont
do dead anymore)got its start playing --get this-- between live tapes at a
local pubs "Grateful Dead Night." Anyway, dead seems real passe' at this
time-and I cant imagine a less marketable product than another dead cover
band-In fact the music scene is sooooooooooooooooo beat I cant tell what
these people want-I think they just want something safe-something "everyone
is doing" Latley a band called "King Solomon's Marbles" has started
frequenting the "audition hours" at some of the local bars and have since
landed a few regular gigs.  To say these guys are a dead cover band is an
understatement.  I cant think of one dead tune they dont know--Think of the
most obscure Dead tune you can think of --they do it.  On top of it all,
this is a polish band-every thing sounds very authentic.  The bassist plays
really long phrases-sounds like 77/78 Phil--and this guys only been on the
instrument a couple of months.  The lead guitarist, Tom Solomon, is the best
Jerry impersonation I have ever heard--sounds just like the contemporary
Jerry we know today.  The most talented member of the group has to be the
drummer-hands down the best of any of the existing dead bands--If not just
the best I've ever heard.  The oter night they played at a local Halloween
gig with some other more poular bands-They were up 2nd out of 4 bands.They
absolutley stole the show--the rest of bands had to play to a crowd that
wanted more of "that dead band." During KSM people danced and screamed- the
rest of the night people just drank and talked.  SETLIST 10-31-92 Unbroken
Chain Dark Star (highlight of the eve) St Stephen>NFA>St.  Stephen I cant
remember the rest(the band has the tape) but you get the point!  I think
I've seen about every major east coast dead act and only Living Earth(in
their late80's heyday) can even get close to these guys.  By the way, I have
to say this SOLAR CIRCUS SUCKS.  They are hands down the worst bunch of no
talents I have ever seen.  Why RELIX chose to put so much money behind them
is beyond me.  I am in no way affiliated with KSM, in fact they just stole
my bands regular monday night gig that we have been playing for 3+ years.
But hey, they deseveit.  I hear there are some promoters in the
Harrisburg,PA area looking to book them for some area shows.  So keep an
open eye-Its not the real thing- But it's close enough to pretend!!  By the
way they are playing tonight locally at the Cafe 210.  see you there.  EDB
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: vsh@etnibsd.uucp (Steve Harris)
Subject: My Wife (lyrics puzzler)
Organization: Eaton Corp, Semiconductor Equipment Div., Beverly, MA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 00:17:20 GMT

(minimal ODC:)  Now that the boys are covering Baba O'Rily...

Here's a puzzler/challenge for everybody waiting for the Spring Tour :-)

On "Who's Next", John Entwistle does the vocals on "My Wife".  Can you
decipher the lyrics?

I have about 95%.  But I've been working on it (off and on) for years
(actually, my friend Brad did most of it).

Let's not saturate the net with partial lyrics postings -- wait till you
have MOST of them before posting.

Have fun.

-- 
... Steve Harris - Eaton Corp. - Beverly, MA - vsh%etnibsd@uunet.uu.net
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Jeff Lester <lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com>
Subject: ijwts
Reply-To: lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:36:48 GMT

I wonder if eagle will pop up soon and say "I ain't no wheelie!" 
There seems to be a big.net opinion that he is one of US (or is that
THEM :-).
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: IWS%ssmic@cdfq.ssd.ray.com
Subject: SYF belt buckles in the stores
Reply-To: IWS%ssmic@cdfq.ssd.ray.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 03:28:29 GMT

eagle writes about the 

| original Cosmic Charlie.  Next time you're at a show, keep an eye pealed
| for his black Levi jacket with Grateful Dead on the top, a skull with
| flames coming out of it in the middle, and Maine across the bottom.
| Then, assuming he's still in it, you can ask him yourself!!  And buy a 
| buckle from him.  Bronze is $275- Silver $750.  They're signed Owsley
| Stanley III, (Bear).

and the SYF belt buckles.  You can also get these in NYCity, at the
Psychedelic Solution store on West 8th (across the street from
Electric Lady studios and down the block from Gray's).  They only
have bronze, and the price is the same...  

Wonder why Cosmic and the store both charge the same price???
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Tuesday, 10 Nov 1992 14:31:49 MST
From: david hollister <AXLAH@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Compton ticket scam???

Atleast you got through!  I stood in line at 6:45AM (about 15th) AND my wife
AND my sister tried UNSUCCESSFULLY for 2 hours to get through and I ended
up with g/a.  This sucks.  I don't recall ever hosing up phone lines to get
Brendan Byrne tickets or any crap like that!!!!
Lots of fairness for the locals, eh?
From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: a gentle request
Date: 8 Nov 1992 12:50:41 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

well, i sure can't figure out how my peyote buds got switched, cause
they start with a \@/\@/\@/\@/

guess that's what happens when you go pullin' outta somebody else's
patch :O

sorry, doug, as i said in email, i'll never post another peyote bud
to col. 1 in my whole life. can't promise to lay off them
completely, tho :)

lara
-<-@ <---- this one still okay ? :)
From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: Reachin' out, touchin' me, touchin' you
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 18:39:41 GMT


Happy Birthday Neil! OK, it's Neil Young, but does
anyone know for sure it's not Neil D.'s b-day?

Well gang, I'm sure you'll be thrilled to know that
I finally did it. Yes, life imitates art. I was in
the local CD shop last night and bought a Neil CD.
I considered "The Early Years," since that has Neil's
versions of Red Red Wine and I'm a Believer, and then
Greatest Hits Volume II with Flowers and Longfellow
Serenade, but in the end settled on (a bargain at 10.99)
Greatest Hits, with Caroline, Rosie (which I actually
don't know that I've heard), Songsung, Eat Me, er, Play Me
and I am I Said. Listened to Caroline before I left for
work, and *I feel great*! Can't wait to check out the
rest of the CD!

Bill
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: yazz@locus.com (Bob Yazz)
Subject: Re: JGB TREE 10-31-92
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1992 01:53:11 GMT

jamie@access.digex.com (James Treworgy) writes:

| If you copy a hissy tape and use dolby on the
| copy, the copy will be hissy as well.

Completely true.

| The point is, there is no
| advantage that I can think of to making a copy of a tape which was _not_
| made with dolby and using dolby on the copy.

The advantage is that every generation of taping adds more hiss.  When
a given generation is made with dolby then that generation's hiss
addition is mostly eliminated.  Whether the original tape was made with
dolby or not is irrelevant.  Dolby recording is about reducing the hiss
that would otherwise be added.

But there are lots of other reasons, like the many you cited, for not
using dolby too.

And it is very much like arguing religion, this dolby thing!

Best Wishes

== Bob Yazz ==
-- 

Welcome to Sci.med -- where-school-of-thought bashing is as old as
sickness itself.
From: wwilliam@dvorak.amd.com (Wade Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Revisiting the Dolby Nightmare (lightly technical)
Date: 10 Nov 92 23:05:25 GMT
Organization: Austin, Texas

In article <Nov10.151658.48280@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> gw214790@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Galen Watts) writes:
>Considering how many red lights I've seen in the taping section (red lights=
>DISTORTION) I don't think it matters if you use noise reduction or not or if
>your deck is aligned to any standard.  Why do we associate distortion with
>loudness?  I've heard too many tapes (yeah, even from DAT machines) that were
>recorded with the levels too high and sounded like they were done on a Sears
>dictation machine.  

Shore don't sound like no Sears dicatation machine when you redline a
DAT...more like a garbage disposal.  DAT's go up to the 0dB mark and 
that's it, can't sample any louder than "all ones" so the music just 
gets lopped off like a buzz-saw.  Black and white.

W^2
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Jeff Lester <lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com>
Subject: Re: looking for chords
Reply-To: lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:36:48 GMT

|does anyone have the chords for franklin's laying around?

D-C-A-C-D ad infinitum

The C's are sort of passing chords between the D's and A's.

D		C    A		  C
In another time's forgotten space
D               C	   A		 C
Your eyes looked from your mother's face,

-Jeff Lester


Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown)
Subject: Re: too much playin' - easy wind?
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 17:46:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.070019.5875@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> IWS%ssmic@cdfq.ssd.ray.com writes:
>| From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu
>
>| >or whatever.  Unlikely to happen, but it would be great to
>| >see them try something new and different in these respects.
>
>| Easy Wind, Easy Wind, Easy Wind, Easy Wind, Easy Wind, Easy Wind:-)
>	
>As much as I like the version on the album, I don't think I have yet
>heard a good live version of "Easy Wind" - I'm talking GOOD, as in
>leaves the album version way behind...  in this case, I think the
>album version is better.

Maybe if they'd play it more they could get a good live one going:-)

"Easy wind blowin' cross the byou today, there's a whole lot of women
out on the street in red today"

"Been ballin' that jack from dawn til noon, while my rider hides my
bottle in the other room"

Powerful Stuff:-)  We miss ya Pig!


P.S.- Veterans Day, remember 58,000 gone:-( Brothers and sisters we
loved.
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>TODD|-ODD-|:-)                   |         Nothing Left To Do But  <
>brown@sunspot.sunspot.noao.edu  /|\             :-) :-) :-)        <
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From: jeff@insti.physics.sunysb.edu (Jeff Althoff)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Dead-Flames Digest #438
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:52:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvaarpa.1992Nov12.235249.28846
Reply-To: jeff@insti.physics.sunysb.edu
Organization: The Internet

Bill Sloan <wls1@cornell.edu> writes...
| 
| 
| I don't know if you've ever caught the Volunteers but they would have to
| be might vote for all time best Dead cover band.  They started back in
| the late 70's in the Long Island club scene. 

   Yup! My parents live in Amityville, NY and back when I was a 
   sprout, the drinking age was still 18, and the Volunteers used to
   play at the Pasttime Pub every Tuesday Night. Rocking fun times.
   I remember once seeing them on Christmas eve, and they did 
   "Run run Rudolph" a la GD and Jeff Mattson played "Silent Night"
   on Pedal steel. Very Cool. Plus they used to play the Wheel 
   with pedal steel too. Ah, memories of a well-spent youth....

   I lost my taste for them when the original Vols broke up. 
   The guy who thought he was Bob Weir (Bob Strano?) was a howl.
   They sure could play some GD tunes, but there's nothing like the
   real thing. I just got my plane tickets to Phoenix....

   Dr. Jeff., the Amityville Horror

--------------------------------------------
Jeff Althoff    jeff@insti.physics.sunysb.edu
From: patm@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Pat Murphy)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:44:13 GMT
Subject: Colorado Welcomes the Boyz
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead



just thought i'd let y'all know a little something about the
state the boyz have decided to kick-off their welcome-jerry-back
party in...  i am personally sickened by the implications...


In hp.misc.politics, ajs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Alan Silverstein) writes:

> There were two major surprises (at least) in the Colorado voting
> results.  Amendments 1 and 2 passed.  Amendment 1 was an 1800-word
> limitation on tax growth.  Seven previous proposed amendments failed.
> From what I've heard this one was no better technically, but obviously
> it caught people at the right time.  So it will be interesting to see
> what effects it has.  One editorial I read (and believed) said that we
> didn't need this restriction because Colorado's government has always
> been fiscally responsible.
> 
> Amendment 2 was a hotly contested, inversely-worded restriction on
> special (?)  rights for homosexuals.  The key element, at the end, is a
> restriction on legal action based on a claim of discrimination.  It
> really bugs me that we have written discrimination, or at least a lack
> of protection against discrimination, into the state constitution.
> That's not the kind of society I want to live in.
> 
> What's especially strange is that almost all the right-wing,
> church-affiliated, anti-abortion candidates in the state lost, often
> by wide margins.


peace to all and sleep tight,
pjm.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: Re: Neil Diamond Tour
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 22:11:25 GMT


Hey, does anyone know if Neil is going to swing
back through the Bay Area for a stadium tour,
you know, a la U2?

Bill

PS Jimmy, please let us know more about your
tour with Neil. Really. Send me e-mail if
you'd like more info on the Diamondbacks.

Is there a harmonic convergence goin' on or somethin'?
From: stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Steve Portigal)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: MAILING-LIST: Rolling Stones
Date: 6 Nov 1992 15:54:47 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

       Rolling Stones Mailing List created!

   UNDERCOVER@SNOWHITE.CIS.UOGUELPH.CA is an unmoderated mailing list for the
discussion of the Rolling Stones. Discussion topics may include: bootleg
trading, how-to guitar playing advice, information about recent books
such as Wyman's Stone Alone and others, perspectives on recent solo
albums by Watts, Richards and Wood and the upcoming album by Jagger.

To be added to (or removed from) the list: 
send mail to undercover-request@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca

This information will be appended to each mailing that goes out from the
list, so no one should have trouble remembering the admin address.

Looking forward to hearing from you all soon...

Steve Portigal

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: jasolomo@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Joshua A. Solomon)
Subject: Scarlet Begonias
Summary: email summary
Keywords: Sammy Davis Jr.
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 14:31:48 EST

In article <1992Nov3.205933.4190@newstand.syr.edu> I wrote:
>Reading Steve Gerber's Fear #19 (Dec 1973) last night,
>I noticed something strange in the letters page.
>A fan asks him if he's "run into" any of a list of fictional characters.
>Steve replys that he is only familiar with one listed,
>and then asks if "Ruby Begonia" rings a bell.
>Now, It wouldn't surprise me if the creator of Howard The Duck
>is a deadhead, but how could he come up with with "Ruby Begonia"
>6 months before "Scarlet Begonias" was debuted in March 1974 at the 
>Cow Palace?  (I believe that December comic books are printed in September.)
>Had the Dead been practicing it for that long, or 
>do "Ruby Begonia" and "Scarlet Begonias" both refer to something
>which I don't know about?

The definitive answer comes from Carol Osterbrock <carolo@cse.ucsc.edu>:
Ruby Begonia refers to an old Sammy Davis Jr. joke.  "Do da name
Ruby Begonia ring any bells?"  He did it a lot on TV in the '60s,
dressed in drag.

Thanks for all of your kind concern.
js

PS as far as I know, it doesn't have anything to do with Scarlet Begonias.

-- 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Carol Osterbrock       *       Such a long, long time to be gone
carolo@cse.ucsc.edu    *         And a short time to be there...
===============================================================================

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: "Doug Budzak" <DBUDZAK@IVY>
Subject: a gentle request
Reply-To: DBUDZAK@IVY
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 14:20:42 GMT

Hello all -

  I have a small request for all of you net heads. I get this newsgroup
in the digest form, and every now and then I get incomplete digests. I
think I have the problem figured out. Whenever someone sends a message
and they include a '/' character in the 1st column of their message,
the rest of the digest gets wiped out for me. I checked with my system
admin, and because of the way we are configured, our system interprets
the slash as 'end-of-file', and stops right there. This only happens
every now and then, but it happened today in digest #415 (I think
that's the one), or whichever digest had the Allman Brothers Freebie
message. Can someone repost that particular message? This digest ended
with Lara's response to the Normal/NORML thread.

Thanks!     - Doug Budzak
From: sowa@netcom.com (Erik Sowa)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: History Lesson
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:50:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.SOWA.92Nov12115039
Organization: Wahoo 5

>>>>> "George" == George Lambert <glambert@pyramid.com> writes:

George> We just observed the anniversary of Krystallnacht.  What have we
George> learned, 

One thing I learned a long time ago is to spell it "Kristallnacht."  I
also learned that it trivializes the Holocaust to invoke it in
circumstances such as these. Since long before high school, I have had a
morbid fascination with Nazi Germany and its abuses. I've studied many a
book, watched many a documentary, and personally visited Dachau twice to
ponder the mysteries of man's inhumanity to man. I even had to verbally
thrash a young kid who was wearing a "Texas ueber alles" tshirt at
Dachau. George, you're not much better than that kid. Better crack those
books again. You might learn something, yourself.
-- 
Erik Sowa (sowa@netcom.com)
From: SMITH1@id5.al.alcoa.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Jorma/Hot Tuna
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:57:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvaarpa.1992Nov11.155727.11037
Reply-To: SMITH1@id5.al.alcoa.com
Organization: The Internet


	I'm a recnet subscriber to the Dead-Flames and had been a
	casual Dead "fan" since the "Anthem" days. It's only at
	the ripe old age of 39 that I attend my first show , the
	first night at PGH's Star lake (had to walk three miles
	after finding a place to park) and became an instant "head".
	But I digress. I'm looking for good quality both audio and
	video tapes of Hot Tuna and/or Jorma to add to my collection.
	You can send any info directly to smith_jb@alcoa.com so as
	not to clog this forum. Thanks. 

					Jim Smith
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: "Brian S. Zaff" <BZAFF@falcon.aamrl.wpafb.af.mil>
Subject: 3d-gdtrfb
Reply-To: BZAFF@falcon.aamrl.wpafb.af.mil
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:36:47 GMT




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	...goin' where water tastes like wine...
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: charles@phx.mcd.mot.com (Charles Wolff)
Subject: Arizona Welcomes the Boyz
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Tempe, Az.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:09:13 GMT

	To those travelling to the Compton shows:

	The election for Maricopa County Sheriff this year was won
	by Richard Arpaio, a former DEA agent whose platform had to
	do with winning the war on drugs...

	I don't know when he takes office, and, additionally, Compton
	is on the Gila Indian Reservation, so the county/state/city
	has to get permission from the Res to do drug sweeps at the
	concert.  Official word last time was that they didn't get
	permission...

	Two years ago, it seemed to me like everybody was concerned
	about the drug laws on Saturday, and I saw very little going
	on - and there were hardly any arrests; on Sunday it was
	much more open, and there were more arrests.  I think 44 over
	the two days... I have heard that being busted for drugs in
	AZ is a particularly unpleasant experience...


	Let the buyer (and seller) beware...
From: patrick.eckman@factory.com (Patrick Eckman) 
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: New tape offer...
Date: 4 Nov 92 08:55:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-8298v.32bis
Reply-To: patrick.eckman@factory.com (Patrick Eckman) 

  G. before my senses come back. I've run across a CD BOOTLEG COPY OF THE NEW
  G. YEARS EVE '89 SHOW! Most of you probably know this show well, it's one of

  G. collection! Take advantage of my moment of generosity/insanity. Just send
  G. me a 90min tape(w/ a return envelope) and I'll dub it and send it back to ya!

 I'd like to mail you a tape in a mailer with return postage. Where is
 Hamilton New York, by the way?

P.s. No dolby, please.
---
 . JABBER v1.2 . Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler.
From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Bound to cover just a little more ground
Date: 12 Nov 1992 09:04:01 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

i happen to agree with a lot of what george and max said.  this
issue has become rather difficult to wrestle with because there are
so many facets of it.

no question that i'm very new here, since just august.  i quickly
saw that the .net.  could go either way, you can complain and flame,
ad nauseum, and then you have a good excuse to leave because of the
low signal to noise ratio.

or you can insert more signal.  the latter's my choice.  if we don't
like something, we should seek to change it, not merely abandon it
because it's too much work to do otherwise.

my thought du jour

lara
-<-@
From: tindall@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mike Tindall)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: desperately seeking tix
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:55:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Nov5.215526.23736
Distribution: usa
Organization: Deadhead Intellegence Agency Computer Network

In article <Bx90D1.Bvo@inews.Intel.COM> janderso@procyon.UUCP (Jim Anderson) writes:
>On the other hand, if you are indeed desperate to go to a concert
>then you have serious problems with priorities in your life.
>
>Jim "travis Beam" Anderson
  
  Concert my ass!  Let's go on tour Sparky!  I just got my food stamps!!

                                  e
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