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From: misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel)
Subject: Re: "want" vs "need"
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 03:50:04 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.214020.1544@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>, smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith) writes:

>> Suppose you didn't have an SO, because you were in a (hypothetical)
>> society where people never went steady.  But any time you wanted, you
>> could enjoy the company of a desirable MOTAS.  Would you be happy?
>
> The key is in that word "hypothetical."  If such societies are so 
> satisfying, why are they hypothetical?

   Maybe because they're not *possible*!  In any *real* society, there 
aren't enough desirable MOTAS to go round, so people try to reserve the
most desirable MOTAS for themselves.

   Doesn't mean such a society would be unsatisfying, if it *were* 
possible.

misrael@csi.uottawa.ca			Mark Israel
Sunbeams brightly play, where Fancy's fair pavilion once is pight.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max)
Subject: Re: Ring for sale (The ballad of a Guy & Girl)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 16:54:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.034318.8181@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>In article <1992Sep6.222439.14198@cs.yale.edu> loosemore-sandra@CS.YALE.EDU (Sandra Loosemore) writes:
>>tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>>
>>   >Ever notice how occasionally people just vanish?  Spooky...
>>

Brownard is alive and well in Idaho. He fell in love by email so is not
welding his bat on women anymore. However HP is giving him trouble so I
think it hasn't been completely retired. (HP apparently recomended not
rehiring him based on their reading of some of his email communications
while he was in their employ). Big brother is out there still apparently. 

Max
From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Which is worse??
Date: 12 Sep 92 20:40:22 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <1992Sep11.222131.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu> 11jcollins@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes:
>Which is worse  A) being a tall woman? (..lets say around 6')
>                B) being a short man?  (..lets say around 5')

Well, my impression (as a 6' male :-) is that it is generally worse to be
short, whether you are male or female, than tall.

First of all, many things in our society are designed for relatively tall
people (5'6" and above).  Clothing, for instance.  I hear from many of my
short friends (including a 5'2" male friend of mine and my 5'0" ex-girlfriend)
that it is difficult to find good clothing in any variety for people their
height.  Many cars are designed for tall people (especially luxury cars;
compacts are usually better about that.  However, I have only ever found *one*
car which was too small for me, and none that were too big.  Not surprisingly,
the small one was owned by my 5'2" friend).

However, this doesn't really answer your question, where i think you are more
interested in the relationship/dating angle, yes?  I would hazard a guess that
it is generally harder for short men than for tall women.  The standard in
the US seems to be that the woman is shorter than the man in a relationship.
I think that there are probably many more men 6' tall or over than there are
women 5' tall and under.

Of course, this consideration is rather irrelevant in the instance where you
consider specific people (like myself) who aren't very interested in the
height of a potential or actual SO.  (Well, okay, I might be a little put off
by a woman who is over SEVEN feet tall, but considering that I've never
personally met ANYONE over seven feet tall that I can recall, I'm not
especially concerned about it. :-)

-- 
Michael Rawdon				 rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

Mondays are not part of the productive work week:
	...eight hours and all I did today is compose this memo...
	...actually, it's more like a sentence than a whole memo...
	...and it probably needs a verb to be a sentence...
							- Dilbert
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: strickha@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Heath A. Strickland)
Subject: Re: Tallllll women....
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:33:10 GMT


In article <18m1soINNr0u@peponi.wcc.govt.nz>  writes:
> In article <1992Sep08.193923.2921@oneb.almanac.bc.ca>,  
kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay) writes:
> 
> >Why one would strike me that way, and one would not, I cannot say; I  
suspect
> >that there may be some primoral threat to the male personna in all of  
this,
> >unless I'm just a wimp. I liked her, and thought of her as a friend,  
but I
> >got _very_ uncomfortable when she stood directly in front of me to chat  
-
> >territorial imperative, perhaps?
> 
> Perhaps with the beautiful one you weren't looking at the overall  
picture?
> If the bigger one was as big or bigger than you, you felt like millions  
of
> women to all over the world who are physically overpowered by men.
> Imagine going through life when EVERYBODY was bigger than you?
> Fortunately I don't have that problem.
>  
> 
> 
> >>Rachel
> >>(6' btw)
> >
> >Did you often bump your head on low doorframes when you were young? <I  
still
> >have scars :-)>
> 
> Did I?!!!!  I still do - all the signs inside shops are at just the  
right
> height to hit the bridge of my nose!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rachel
> 
> "Supergoof"
> 
>    - -
>    O O
>     >
>    \_/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rachel
> 
> "Supergoof"
> 
>    - -

Come on ...get a grip....I consider Tall women those who can sit on my  
face while I stand up.!!
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: puter@no1home.nashvil.ingr.com (PuterDude)
Subject: Re: What knockers!  Crreak.
Organization: Organized? Just look at my desk!
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:19:33 GMT

 jbecker@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jane Becker) tittilates...

>Yes, guys do this to me occasionally too (in fact someone did it earlier
>today...).  Although I've never been elbowed hard enough to consider
>it painful, it is really annoying.  It's not the fact that they are
>brushing against me that is bothersome: if a guy is such a loser that
>elbow contact with by tits is a big thrill, then he's welcome to it.
>What irritates me is that these guys do it so "accidentally."  Come on!
>Who do you think you're fooling?  I hate that kind of pretense.  I think 
>I'd almost prefer they just plant a hand on my breast and squeeze...
>it would undoubtably be more enjoyable for the both of us... of course
>they run a substantial risk of getting slapped though!  Seriously guys,
>what are you thinking when you do this?  Enquiring minds (well, mind, at
>least) want to know!

Well, it probably has somethin' to do with coppin' as muchuva feel as
possible without danger of a sexual harrassment charge.

This National Enquirer moment just cost you one tush pinch.

-- 
Puter	puter@no1home.nashvil.ingr.com	.sig by Generic Labels
(Put irritating title here)		(Put phone # here.)
(Put obnoxious quote here. Please make it as long as possible.)
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: E.W. - Weddings....
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:34:16 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <ewillims.716049830@unix1.tcd.ie> ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams) writes:
 
|	Dart Boards?? I've never yet met an Irishman who plays darts!

Hmmm.  I play darts regularily in a place called O'shea's.  I have in fact
played against several Irishmen.  

|Are you sure you're not thinking of English men?  It's a national
|pastime in Britain!

National Pastime?  It's a religion.  I did have the pleasure of having a
chap from England play on my dart team a couple of years ago.  Tragically,
he passed away at the end of his season.  Everyone loved Archie.

-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira     | Auspex Systems | "Auspex does not share my opinions.  |
| johnf@auspex.com | Santa Clara CA |  So Why am I still working here?"    |
+==========================================================================+
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: wtr@mitre.org (Bill Ralston)
Subject: Re: Boston Baby Boink report
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 23:14:43 GMT

in article <14649@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) 
writes:
]
]In article <1992Sep15.171222.21663@linus.mitre.org> wtr@mitre.org (Bill 
]Ralston) writes:
]>
]>There's really nothing all that exciting to hear about James, just the usual 
]>stuff with raw fish, baby, face painting, hot chili oil, bananas, etc.  I 
]>never saw any evidence of pickles,  figurative or otherwise.  
]
]Perhaps you just weren't looking in the right places.  Wait a minute, weren't
]you the one the was checking out the skirt on the cute blonde?

Not me pal.  I was on the couch talking to the an older brunette and 
red-head.  At least until they saw Gal.  I tell you, Gal is a real operator!

Bill
---------------
wtr@mitre.org
** Opinions are mine only, and not my employer's **
From: dy@depsych.Gwinnett.COM (Dr. Yes)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Courtship Generic Algorithms
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:18:55 GMT

stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:

> dy@depsych.Gwinnett.COM (Dr. Yes) writes:
> 
> >I'm not religious either, but if it's legitimate to fake
> >confidence why not religious faith as well?
> 
> You need *some* confidence in order to be able to fake having more.
> The same goes for religious faith, IMO.
> 
> --
> Stef                 "What would *you* call the creation of the universe?"
> stef@apple.com       "The Horrendous Space Klablooie!"             
>                                                               - Watterson

I agree.  I just posted an article where I made essentially that
point.  I think most "non-religious" people feel a _moral_
_obligation_ to deconstruct traditional religion.  That moral
obligation is made of the same psychic stuff as the religion it
impels us to oppose.

--
Still Using Waffle 1.64!    | Wafffle, QEdit and Webster's
                            | NewWorld -- one great menage a
                            | trois!
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Can we can the suck-up bit?
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 01:52:48 GMT

In article <4155@moscom.UUCP> wjb@moscom.UUCP (Bill de Beaubien) writes:
>Kiran Wagle (kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu) wrote:
>: Where does the lime jello come from?  
>
>Get a lot of it;  put it in a bathtub;  invite your favorite MOTAS.  Several,
>if you've a large enough bathtub.  Jump in.  Have fun.  Old fannish 
>tradition, rumour has it started by an aside comment by Joe Haldeman at
>Discon II, WheneverTheHellThatWas.  The song commemorating the event is in
>Westerfilk 1.

Well, there's something that's true that has a lot of the same words
in it :-)

Two of the three people involved have specifically asked me not to
tell the story, and the third is thoroughly sick of it, so I won't go
into the details here.

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
From: kramersc@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Scott C. Kramer)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Dill Dough
Keywords: Kosher dills, half sours, dill dough.....
Date: 10 Sep 92 05:43:26 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Sep9.210738.3962@panix.com> pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich) writes:
>In article <las8r8INN5uj@news.bbn.com> dhardin@spcink.bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
>>  No, it's the incorrigible east coast types, the
>>ones who were born and lived all their lives in New England, who behave
>>as if they had pickles up their rears.
>
>>...  While it's true that her majesty the baby was born in Boston,
>>I intend for her to spend enough time in the midwest where people are
>>sane that she'll escape this affliction.  No daughter of mine is going 
>>to be too stuffy to drink Strawberry Hill on appropriate occasions.
>
>The Midwest!?!? You mean the place where people still wear white
>shirts and narrow ties and think it's about 1957? Where a good

 Dude!!!! How can you be so insensitive to people like myself who
have lived in the midwest all my life???  I am deeply offended by that
remark and demand an apology on my behalf and other fellow midwesterners..
at least we have values here in the midwest....this is 1990, BUD, and I happen
to be a very hip person when I want to be and does that mena I wear white
shirts and narrow ties? NOOOOOOOT!



>time is watching cows sleep? Where people don't applaud a standup
>comic but just smile and nod to each other at how funny that last
>joke was? Pickles aren't even in the game.

 IF you think ALL midwesterners think alike, you are definitely WRONG...
Chill out, ok?? Thanks....:-)



>
>No offense to Dawn, who after all had the wisdom to get out of
>that vast cultural wasteland
>
>paul   just another uptight easterner

 Scott
From: dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Boones Farm
Date: 14 Sep 1992 16:40:57 GMT
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com
Keywords: Kosher dills, half sours, dill dough, wines.....

In article <1992Sep13.060724.4653@leland.Stanford.EDU>, richwing@leland.Stanford.EDU (Rich Wingerter) writes:
> 
> Heavens!  At least get her a good Chardonnay.  You aren't going to prop her
> eyes open and make her watch reruns of Hee Ha, are you?

Not a chance.  I tried to get her to watch _The Wizard of Oz_, to get her
good and traumatized on the flying monkeys, and she wouldn't have anything 
to do with it.

(She does pay attention when my housemates watch Star Trek, which would
be fine except they keep playing the flogging episodes over and over and
over again.)

Dawn
"Oh, Time!  Of all the dwellers here below 
You only elevate buffoons or fools,
Or him whose anus as an inkstand serves."
The Perfumed Garden of the Shaykh Nefzawl, translated by Sir Richard F. Burton
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark)
Subject: Re: Name That Diamond!
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 11:28:10 GMT

In article <ewillims.715857528@unix1.tcd.ie> ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams) writes:
>In <thurlow.715665098@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:
>>>It's the odd comment like
>>>this that makes one suddenly feel ancient. (At least we can hope
>>>she knows who the Beatles were...)
>
>>"Oh yeah!  Isn't that the band that Paul McCartney was in before Wings?"
>
>	Paul McCartney???  Isn't he the one who once sang a duet with
>Michael Jackson?  :->

Oh yeah!  Isn't that the guy who used to be black and wear an afro?
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: morton@cali.rtp.dg.com ()
Subject: Re: Lurkers...
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 11:02:14 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, RTP, NC.

[names deleted, but you get the concept right, plus you know who it is]
>>Well, in my case, I try my best but sometimes I get 10 or more messages
>>a day.  

	Some people are just blessed with the ability to "draw" others
	into their presence. Now you take me for example, I probably
	couldn't say anything that would draw 10 people a year,

	I think a popularity contest is in order here   ... !

	And I vote for.......[drum roll] ........... Pam Mathews!
From: taina@cs.Helsinki.FI (Juha Taina)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What knockers! Crreak.
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:39:07 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki, Finland

In <YRU6WKO@netmbx.netmbx.de> rickk@netmbx.netmbx.de (Rick Kuhlbars) writes:

>BTW, for someone that doesn;t like to be harrassed it was pretty
>gutsy putting your phone# in your sig.

It's my office number.  So far nobody has called there, at least when
I've been online.  And as I'm male, few guys want to "accidentally"
collide with my breasts. :)

Juha
-- 
Juha Taina | taina@cs.helsinki.fi | Phone: +358-0-708-4247
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.)
Subject: Re: Boones Farm
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 07:40:52 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: na
Keywords: Kosher dills, half sours, dill dough, wines.....

In article <1992Sep13.060724.4653@leland.Stanford.EDU> richwing@leland.Stanford.EDU (Rich Wingerter) writes:
>Heavens!  At least get her a good Chardonnay.  You aren't going to prop her
>eyes open and make her watch reruns of Hee Ha, are you?

Is that strains of Ludwig Van in the background? :)
r.
From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: "We're all normal here"
Date: 16 Sep 92 02:43:25 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <1992Sep15.144814.8944@cs.yale.edu> loosemore-sandra@CS.YALE.EDU (Sandra Loosemore) writes:
>aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
>   >> Welcome to soc.singles. We're all normal here. 
>   >   Yeah.  Problem is, we want to be tangent.
>   I'm sorry, Mark, I think that was a little too obtuse.
>Some of us have more acute sensibilities.  Do I detect sines of
>another pun war?  It's enough to make my hair curl.

What do you think is the cos of it all?  Maybe it's just that telling these
gags is as easy as pi.

-- 
Michael Rawdon				 rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

"You can lose your head, you can lose your mind, you can lose your way,
 Keep your eyes and still be blind."
						- Men Without Hats
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Where the best posts come from
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:25:43 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Sep14.134057.28169@news.acns.nwu.edu> drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max) writes:
>In article <1992Sep14.132100.10189@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
>>>
>>>Max
>>
>> Hey. HEY. Hey. In fractions.
>> A guy comes over at 10:30 and informs me the ex still loves someone
>>and is their a chance of getting together.
>>*BANG*
>
>What! She figures its her only way to stay out of jail?
 
Probably figures it beats working.
 
>
>> Susie just called to say Hi.
>> BroomHilda be fine.
>
>How about the thigh woman?
 
Haven't talked since we visited. Too busy.

>
>> Would that horny toad have any horny relatives?
>
>Most likely.
>
>> Pretty soon it will be time to honker down w someone for the winter.
>>Thoughts, reflections.
>
>Well comb up those pretty red pigtails, shine those green pumps, and get a
>new pair of candystripe tights, that should improve the reflections and
>maybe put some thoughts into the heads of the local pretty girls.
 
I'll do it.
 
>
>> ex for sale, get your ex. Here you go. That ex looks perfect on you.
>> Due to missplaced parts I'm afraid I'll have to invoke our no refund
>>no return policy.
>
>Well if you find her someone make sure he's rich.
 
Lawyer said I can't get any. Said whats his isn't mine in relation to
support.
 
>> 
>>Does anyone on here know how I can get a girlfriend(tee hee).
>
>Ah james you greedy thing. Maybe if you got down on your knees and groveled
>Dawn would take you back. 
 
Dawns happily married now. She's got it BAD.
Somebody had a baby Sat. Said it's pink. 7lbs 1 oz. Boy.
My dog cherish's the ground I walk on. I think I'll keep him.
 

 
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================================================================================
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Can we can the suck-up bit?
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:17:21 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Sep11.174314.78177@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH) writes:
|jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
|
|>I neglected Aloyisius/Alawishus/Aluwhishes jontai ploo ma rae.
|>He proudly misspells!
|
|Well, I have to be proud of something.
 
Agreed.  When I first started here I got email from three people that spelled
my name three different ways.  It was spell two different ways in the phone
directory, both of them wrong.

That's why my login id is johnf.  I'd never get any email if it was
fereira@auspex.com.
 
|Oh, BTW, it's spelled like it sounds...."Aloysius".

Problem is most of us have never heard how it sounds.

Hello, my name is john, but it is pronounced Shar-day.

-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira     | Auspex Systems | "Auspex does not share my opinions.  |
| johnf@auspex.com | Santa Clara CA |  So Why am I still working here?"    |
+==========================================================================+
From: wjb@moscom.UUCP (Bill de Beaubien)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: "want" vs "need"
Date: 12 Sep 92 21:02:13 GMT
Reply-To: wjb@moscom.com
Organization: Moscom Corp., Pittsford, NY
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Mark Israel (misrael@csi.uottawa.ca) wrote:
: In article <5177@news.duke.edu>, diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:
: >> Pardon my ignorance; who are the Howard Family?
: >
: > Oh.  Sorry.  It's a Heinlein reference... 
: 
:    Which book?  I've only read _Stranger in a Strange Land_.

_Time Enough For Love_, mostly.  Worth the read.  I thought you had to read at
least 5 books by Heinlein before you were allowed to post here, though...
-- 
"Bless me, Father; I ate a lizard."
"Was it an abstinence day, and was it artificially prepared?"
-------------------------------------------------------------
Bill de Beaubien / wjb@moscom.com
From: morton@cali.rtp.dg.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Desperation (was Re: Commitment--The C-word?)
Date: 5 Sep 92 10:36:06 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, RTP, NC.

>In article <1992Aug26.204706.29105@mdd.comm.mot.com> rudoff@mdd.comm.mot.com (Doug Rudoff) writes:
>>Given my
>>complete lack of success in pursuing women who aren't interested in
>>me, I look at it as a sign of desperation. Maybe we just have
>>different definitions of desperate.

	Ever considered pursuing some who ARE interested in you ?
	Nobody ever got anywhere chasing that which was not interested....
	( maybe once or twice, small odds, hero stories )
	Do you have a problem with women who like you ?
From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: chemistry / love at first sight : fact or fiction?
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:03:46 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <ewillims.716118911@unix1.tcd.ie> ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams) writes:
>	I heard a very interesting comment on Love at first sight last
>night which I thought was very clever.  The guy said that it was in fact
>a form of Narcissism. You can't possibly know what the object of your
>desires is *really* like so you project onto them all the qualities that
>you admire or lack in yourself.  The other person then becomes the 
>epitome of all you want them to be.  That made sense to me. How about
>you?

Sounds good to me.  You're really falling in love with an ideal than with a
real person there.  I suspect when this happens we tend to single out
people who "look" like they would possess the qualities we want in an SO/
lover.

Certainly I've been guilty of this many times (I've got at least one
subject of infatuation in my environment right now ---sigh---), but I think
I'm aware of myself and of this phenomenon enough now that I would not hold
them up to that sort of standard if anything (even friendship) started to
materialize.

-- 
Michael Rawdon				 rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

Mondays are not part of the productive work week:
	...eight hours and all I did today is compose this memo...
	...actually, it's more like a sentence than a whole memo...
	...and it probably needs a verb to be a sentence...
							- Dilbert
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