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From: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
Subject: voiceovers
Reply-To: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:17:57 EST

Mark Norman commented:
---------------------
-> you'll realise you want them in the end, so we're going to stuff the
-> damn things down your throats until you get used to them.

 That does reflect the general arrogance of TV station around the world,
eh?
 Afew years back TVOntario started the "downsize the picture into one
corner of the screen so we can stick a talking head in asking for
membership money". The States' PBS stations then caught on to that. Just
as bad as if the credits (etc.) were chopped off all together.

-> especially when voiceovers were used over the closing credits of
-> programs where the music was the actual point of the program (eg
-> video show, choir

 That is annoying with any programme, IMhO. But, yes, most annoying for
the musicals.

 I could go about this. But, I'm getting pissed off enough for now just
thinking about how often I've watched a show, feeling relaxed, when I'm
suddenly blasted with a TV station idiot's voiceover.
 One advantage to voiceovers - The more they've done this, the less I'm
interested in watching TV. What the TV stations don't realise is that
the viewers don't find this informative, nor tasteful - or even
required. We viewers are there, watching, for our enjoyment. Should that
enjoyment turn to being annoyment, they can have it. I'll go read a
book or several other things I can think of.

Regards,
Dale Clayton
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From: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
Subject: episode order
Reply-To: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:17:58 EST

 I had to get that last bit off my back. Sorry.

Anyway. The Prisoner....

 I'm wondering if someone could post me an abridged version of the
various episode orders.
 CITY-TV (nicknamed SHITY-TV) is presently showing The Prisoner series.
I noticed that their order is a little different from what I have on
tape. I'd like to be able to define the differences between the two with
the order guide, just to let others in the area what is on here. Thanks!

Regards,
Dale Clayton
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From: Bernard.Stern@info.unine.ch
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Re: Pat Mc Goohan to appear in movie on french TV
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:20:42 GMT
Organization: University of Neuchatel, Switzerland

In article <1992Oct13.094549.7228@aar.alcatel-alsthom.fr>, ranc@aar.alcatel-alsthom.fr (Daniel Ranc) writes:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 			For the real fans:
> 
> 
> 	Patrick Mc Goohan to appear in french-italian movie
> 		scheduled on thursday the 15th
> 		 on 6th french TV channel (M6)
> 
> 
> 
> According to my TV program, PMG is to appear in a french-italian 
> movie by Damiano Damiani: "Un genie, deux associes, une cloche".
> 
> This movie of 1975 stars also Terence Hill, Miou-Miou, Robert
> Charlebois and Klaus Kinski. A bit bizarre distribution. 
> 
> BTW I never saw this film.
> 
> Daniel Ranc


Thanks a lot for mentioning it... I'm dead sure I'd have missed it otherwise.

                                           Bonjour chez vous, Baron Alucard
From: whitehec@cs.man.ac.uk (C J Whitehead)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: 18 episodes on Ch4
Date: 15 Oct 92 11:13:25 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester


Channel 4 have allocated 18 hour slots for The Prisoner, as we all
know there  were 17, so what will be in the 18th?  Probably that
documentary that was shown last time around, but there are rumours
it will  be the alternative version of The Chimes of Big Ben.

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From: ranc@aar.alcatel-alsthom.fr (Daniel Ranc)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Pat Mc Goohan to appear in movie on french TV
Date: 13 Oct 92 09:45:49 GMT
Reply-To: ranc@aar.alcatel-alsthom.fr ()
Organization: Alcatel Alsthom Recherche (Marcoussis)





			For the real fans:


	Patrick Mc Goohan to appear in french-italian movie
		scheduled on thursday the 15th
		 on 6th french TV channel (M6)



According to my TV program, PMG is to appear in a french-italian 
movie by Damiano Damiani: "Un genie, deux associes, une cloche".

This movie of 1975 stars also Terence Hill, Miou-Miou, Robert
Charlebois and Klaus Kinski. A bit bizarre distribution. 

BTW I never saw this film.

Daniel Ranc
From: thchemb4@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Re: Prisoner: Ch4 Screening
Date: 8 Oct 92 10:12:10 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.tv.uk,alt.tv.prisoner
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <BvsLKC.CMv@cen.ex.ac.uk>, rjchapma@cen.ex.ac.uk (R.J.Chapman) writes:
> Did anyone notice an apparent cut in the most recent episode, "A, B and C"
> screened by Channel 4. We see Number 6 talking to B and as nothing
> interesting is happening Numbers 2 and 14 discuss trying to
> put words in B's mouth. Suddenly the scene changes to number 6 waking
> up and discovering a second injection mark on his wrist, leaving
> the scene with B unresolved. Has a scene been cut here? and were the
> earlier episodes shown complete?
> --

   I noticed this as well. I saw "A,B & C" on video a while back and I 
seem to remember a whole section where no.6 is dancing with "B" then a load
of enemy agents appear (with guns) and no.6 has to choose between saving "B"
or telling why he resigned, or something like that ( it was quite a while ago 
that I saw it!)
   This cut seeming to make the whole "B" section sort of meaningless, I
thought.

Tom Weston

> Robin J. Chapman                 *
> Department of Mathematics        *
> University of Exeter, UK         *
> R.J.Chapman@cen.exeter.ac.uk     *
> --
From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Re: >Avengers In-Joke?
Date: 8 Oct 92 12:15:30 GMT
Organization: Ohio University School of Art. Athens

In article <1992Oct06.220834.21796@sco.COM> simon@sco.COM (Simon Tooke) writes:

>The Avengers was full of in-jokes.

How about the episode where Steed is in an 'ultra-modern' building. The 
doors open and close sideways with a distinctive 'whoosh'. He grins and
says 'fascinating'.



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From: jhugart@news.weeg.uiowa.edu
Subject: FYA...a morning headline
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:05:10 GMT


For Your Amusement...this morning's paper featured the following
headline from the Associated Press:

		       No. 2s to debate tonight

Be seeing you...

Jacob Hugart  <jacob-hugart@uiowa.edu>
--------------------------------------
Take nothing but pictures,
   Leave nothing but footprints,
      Kill nothing but time.

-- 
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Take nothing but pictures,
   Leave nothing but footprints,
From: simon@sco.COM (Simon Tooke)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: >Avengers In-Joke?
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:08:34 GMT
Organization: SCO Canada, Inc.

Craig Friesen write:
> musjjh@lure.latrobe.edu.au writes:
> 
> >Last night I was watching an episode of The Avengers, Iv'e forgotten the title
> >but it was a Dianna Rigg episode in colour and dealt with homing pigeons
> >being used to secretly make ariel photos of missle bases.
> It's called "The Bird Who Knew Too Much" or very close to that.
> 
> >Does anyone know when this episode was filmed?
> I looked it up.  My book didn't know when it was filmed, but it first aired
> in England February of 1967.  (5th season, 3rd episode)
> 
> Don't know how any of the prisoner stuff fits in...I haven't seen the episode.
> cu

The Avengers was full of in-jokes.  My personal favourite is one where they
investigate mysterious doings between a comic strip writer and a comic
strip artist.  At one time, there is a tremendous fight scene where Mrs.
Peel ends up fending off an attacker with 14x20 drawings from the comic
strip.  The particular drawings she uses are from a fight scene in the strip,
and have words like `BAM'  `KA-POW!' etc. on them.  So we see an attacker
swing for her, then `BOOM!' and she grabs another, holds it up at the camera,
and `*CRUNCH*'; yes, they even use a bar or two of Bat FightSceneMusic!

-simon tooke

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From: teague@acavax.lynchburg.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: video of Portmeirion convention & more
Date: 12 Oct 92 13:17:53 -0500
Organization: Lynchburg College


I have several hours of video (NTSC, American standard) video of the 1988
Six of One convention that I am considering editing down to approximately
90 minutes and offering for sale - if there is an interest, that is.
I plan also add to this the 36-minute 1977 Warner Troyer interview with
McGoohan (before an audience of Prisoner fans).  I would probably ask about
$30 for this two-hour tape.  Also, I have the soundtrack (no video, sorry)
to the alternate version of Arrival for diehards, along with original
Prisoner press releases that I would be willing to photocopy - again, if
readers express an interest.

Please E-mail your reactions to teague@acavax.lynchburg.edu.  Would you
be interested in the video and/or the audio cassette or promo material?
Thanks
From: david@convex.csd.uwm.edu (David Stack)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Number theory
Date: 14 Oct 1992 19:52:53 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.30
Originator: david@convex.csd.uwm.edu

From article <1992Oct14.030843.16619@news.columbia.edu>, by egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy):
> In article <92Oct13.193957edt.55@orasis.vis.toronto.edu> mann@vis.toronto.edu (Richard Anthony Mann) writes:
>>A good idea to have a math-girl, but why not some substance rather
>>than this pseudo scientific stuff about pi?

The woman reminded of the New Yorker article about 6 or 8 months ago about
the two brother mathematicians who have built a supercomputer in one of
their apartments for the purpose of investigating pi.  I wonder if that
article provided some of the source material for the woman's dialogue.
Sorry I don't have a better citation on the article, it was great.


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From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Subject: Re: Maggie a babe
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 08:30:58 GMT

In article <MERRITT.92Oct8135245@macro.bu.edu> merritt@macro.bu.edu (Sean Merritt) writes:
>In article <jp.2@usafa.af.mil> jp@usafa.af.mil (J P) writes:
>
>>   How many you out there think Maggie is a babe?
>
>I didn't until the long dress in the car commercial.
>
>Wow!
>
>I can't even remember the type of car she was selling.
>
>What long dress in the car  commercial?? The Chevy ad I saw on the
nite of 10/3 was a closeup shot of her face, and she was just giving the
pitch for the Chevy geo.

My girlfriend keeps her hair short, and I used to tell her to let it grow
out, until I really started watching N.Ex. and saw Janine Turner :)

Simon
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From: alexho@microsoft.com (Alex Howerton)
Subject: Re: Season's premier, loud musical score?
Date: 07 Oct 92 19:27:16 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

Speaking of music, has anyone figured out yet who did "Toy Cows in Africa"?


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From: marty@world.std.com (Marty M HaleEvans)
Subject: Re: Sex appeal of PI
Organization: Cicely Public Access UNIX, Cicely, AK
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:30:16 GMT

cme@ellisun.sw.stratus.com (Carl Ellison) writes:


>I'm impressed.  Never before tonight have I heard a monologue on PI turned
>into such an arousing, totally sexy event!

>My hat is off to the writer(s) -- and to Amy (whose real name I missed
>on the credits).

>Once again, NX comes through!

Yeah, my sister and I were watching this, and both of us said that only NEXP
could get away with this dialogue. We liked the episode, and we both also 
said at the end "What an incredible/fantastic show!" (we said it together, 
but varied on the adjective -- we're very Chris/Bernard-like. :-) ) We meant
the series, but we both liked the ep as well. And every week we ask ourselves:
Can Chris possibly get any more tasty?? 

Marty


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From: "Michael Chui" <mchui@mango.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Episode 10/12, or whatever it was called
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:26:33 -0500

In article <13OCT199213314328@juliet.caltech.edu> waynebro@juliet.caltech.edu (Broughton, Wayne Jeremy) writes:
>4. Continuing the morbid joy of nit-picking, I _think_ I saw an editing 
>error.  Maybe someone who recorded the episode could check.  When Chris
>is in Ruth Ann's store with an ice pack on the back of his neck, Ruth-Ann
>goes to the door and turns the sign around so that "Closed" shows on
>the outside.  We then cut back to Chris, who walks to the door that 
>Ruth-Ann is holding open;  at this point we are seeing the _outside_
>of the door, but I think the sign said "Open"!!  Next we cut to a camera
>angle from outside, and as they walk away the door definitely shows
>"Closed" again.  Can anyone be bothered enough to see if I am full of it?

	Haven't checked the tape, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if
there was a lack of continuity here.  I was visiting Roslyn this summer
when they were filming the outdoor part of that scene, and it took several
hours just to get those few seconds between Chris leaving the store, and
driving away on the (little-did-I-know-at-the-time-doomed) Harley.  Plenty
of time for the sign to get moved around.
	I will now end my gratuitous self-serving bragging.  (But it was
so fun!)

Michael Chui
mchui@cs.indiana.edu
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From: guppy@wixer.cactus.org (Jennifer Mery)
Subject: Chris's bike
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 05:32:23 GMT

Well if it's any consolation, I think the bike they pushed over the edge
probably didn't work anyway.  The bike they pushed was black, and
Chris's bike was maroon. Maybe Chris's maroon bike will magically
reappear when he buys his "new" bike. 

This episode was my third favorite this season, but I still wasn't
disappointed. I liked Midnight Sun the best so far. I'd rather have
these new episodes to watch than reruns of ones I've seen, so I really
can't be disappointed.

jam
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From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Subject: Re: Maggie a babe
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:07:57 GMT

In article <MERRITT.92Oct8135245@macro.bu.edu> merritt@macro.bu.edu (Sean Merritt) writes:
>In article <jp.2@usafa.af.mil> jp@usafa.af.mil (J P) writes:
>
>>   How many you out there think Maggie is a babe?
>
>I didn't until the long dress in the car commercial.
>
>Wow!
>
>I can't even remember the type of car she was selling.

Geos.



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From: cmbecker@space.mit.edu (Christopher M. Becker)
Subject: Re: Season's premier, loud musical score?
Reply-To: cmbecker@space.mit.edu (Christopher M. Becker)
Organization: MIT Center for Space Research
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:13:58 GMT



> >djohnson@cs.ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson) writes:
> >
> >>>The volume was terrible! The scene in the Brick, where Shelley talks to 
> >>>Maggie about turning thirty, was awful! I almost couldn't hear the 
> >>>dialog over the music.
> >
> >>I heard it just fine in San Diego.  If it was loud, I didn't notice.
> >>-- 

> >
> >My complaint is that the sound quality was inconsistent...I was constantly
> >having to adjust the volume to compensate for character voices fading...I
> >surmise it was the result of them not being tracked very well with the mikes,
> >because they would fade in and out as they moved toward and away from various
> >fixed points (mainly in the Brick).
> >
> >Peace,
> >
> >Doug
> >


> 
> Sorry if this is off track, but I've noticed a similar problem while
> watching Star Trek: The Next Generation. I can hear the music and the
> sound effects great, but _occasionally_ the dialogue will dip to barely
> audible levels. This doesn't happen very often, or for very long, but
> it's happened enough for me to notice it. I'm just wondering if this
> is a side-effect of shows that have stereo soundtracks, as I notice
> Northern Exposure does. Has anyone else noticed this?
> 
> Troy Brooks
> troy@cs.sfu.ca
> 

As I didn't see the NX episode I don't know exactly how the sound was inconsistant, but if Troy is right and it is similar to the audio problems
ST:TNG the problem is not in the taping, its in the playback.  ST:TNG is
recorded in surround sound, not stereo.  An audiophile would have to give you
the details, but if the station airing the tape plays it back in the wrong audio
mode you get weird effects like background sounds amplified, while the
dialog tracks are all but inaudible.  Isn't NX also taped in surround sound?
It's a bit hard to believe that a network affiliate could screw this up, but
independant stations in Boston did this to Trek all the time.  This could
explain why some cities had no problem, while others did. 

				Chris
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From: tale@ten.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Where's Adam and Eve...
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:53:59 GMT

In <1992Oct15.141522.23310@cs.tulane.edu> le@cs.tulane.edu (Doug Le) writes:

   Where in the world are they???

They're recluses!!!  They're reclusing!!!

   Are they coming back????

Probably!!!

   I mean, didn't the actress who plays Eve won an emmy???

Who really cares about emmys except the entertainment industry itself???

Seriously though, what's to get so excited about?  We're three shows
into the new season and Adam & Eve haven't appeared in many episodes
for the entire lifetime of the show.  I wouldn't count them out all
together.

(I personally don't miss them, either.)
From: Gordon_Wong@mindlink.bc.ca (Gordon Wong)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: missing kids of Cicely mystery; parakeet?
Date: 14 Oct 92 04:46:15 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> Jan Hastrup writes:
>
> [stuff deleted]
>
> I thought the "parakeet" in the 10/12 episode was a prop, and a
> poor one at that.
>
> [stuff deleted]
>


Ditto that for the "dog" or whatever that was that Chris ran over at the
beginning of the show.

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From: pwjarman@cc.utah.edu (PARRY W. JARMAN)
Subject: NX's "Elaine"--Seinfeld's "Naomi"
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date:  8 Oct 1992 07:39 MST  

For those of you who keep track of these things, Jessica Lundy, who has played 
Joel's erstwhile fiance on NX is now in a character part on NBC's 
Seinfeld.  She plays a girl Jerry is dating--Naomi-who has a laugh like "Elmer 
Fudd on a juicer."  She has been in two episodes and will be in next week's  
episode as well.

She seems to be the woman to play opposite the neurotic, New York, Jewish male 
these days.
From: davsmith@nic.cerf.net (David Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Sacrilege!  Blasphemy!
Date: 14 Oct 92 05:44:15 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: CERFnet

In article <1992Oct14.035251.25019@sei.cmu.edu> bjz@sei.cmu.edu (Barbara Zayas) writes:
>Amy's method of cleansing her (possible) resentment towards Chris for 
>these accidents made absolutely no sense to me.

Weren't they also talking about getting rid of Chris' guilt about
killing her pets?  In that way it almost makes sense.


-- 
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From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Subject: Episde 10/12 and other stuff
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 04:51:07 GMT


Ok folks, what did you all think of this weeks episode?? I don't know why,
but there was someting missing..HMMM..what..was it...don't tell I'll figure
it out....AHH..Of course.. Maggie wasn't in it :-)   Seriously, this episode
was different, like te deviated from the storyline without actually messing
it up.

Folks--I think I posted this before but it got junked:
Have any of you seen a film called "Stay Tuned"?? This is not a spoiler, but
there's this one part.......
Now, I know they film the show in Roslyn, WA, but do they film interior shots
there??   Chevy ads:I've seen two of the ads (closeup of Turner and the one
with her in the black dress) are there others??   Something I saw this morning
(10/12) on a freeway here in San Antonio:A Blazer with WA plates and a NX frame
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From: woods@robohack.UUCP (Greg A. Woods)
Subject: Re: Maggie a babe
Organization: Elegant Communications Inc.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 16:50:43 GMT

In article <92283.120631ICJPS@ASUACAD.BITNET> <ICJPS@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
> Maggie a babe?  Nah..she's an adult.
> 
> Reality check:  Who is more attractive, Maggie O' Connel or Jeanine Turner?

Well, the T.V. character Maggie would certainly be very appealing to
me, should I ever meet her double in real life, but I'm not so sure
I'd be quite so attracted to Turner.
-- 
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