From: eoahmad@ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: Re: Budhisim / Islam
Date: 6 Nov 92 11:56:48 GMT
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SUPRATIC GUPTA (f43703a@nucc.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp) wrote:
: 
: Can any one tell us the difference in Budhisim
: and Islam.
: 
: Leave out the following well known differences
: 
: 1) Mohamad a prophet.
: 
: 2) Mohamad the last one.
: 
: 3) Existence of Quran.
: 
: 4) The way of praying.
: 
: 
: Please point out the Idiological differences.

You have missed the most fundamental issue:

a)"There is no god but Allah"

Buddhism is not so clear about this.
I'm afraid I'm confused by the explanations given to me and what I've read.


b) purpose of life:

In Islam, to gain knowledge and enjoy life,
Buddhism, to deny wordly pleasures.

Islam strongly forbids the denial of legal pleasures:
e.g.

Our prophet said: If you practice celibacy, you are not my follower. I was
shocked to know this saying.

There are many others.


: If you don't know about Islam well, tell us
: about Budhisim only. We will find out the Differences.
: What is the concept of god in Budhisim?
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: 
: This is a real life problem. It is the problem of a girl.
: I call her "TRAPED GIRL". What is her status according to
: TRUE ISLAMIC law.
: 
: This TRAPED GIRL is muslim by birth. She is in love with
: a non-islamic boy. She dosn't personally mind excepting the 
: boy's religion. In some case it may happen that she may not
: like Islam. 

Why don't you consider the case of a buddhist family?

: 
: What is her status? Will she be punished in case she decides
: to change religion? What is her punishment? Is it death? 
: 
Despite what the religion says, some families will surely punish the girl,
and given the power some will kill her or make her life miserable.

For Islam there are concepts which may enlighten you:

i)there is no compulsion in religion,
ii)only Allah can convert people to Islam,
iii)hypocrites are the worst enemy,

: 
: How is this case treated in various law in different ISLAMIC 
: country. I can tell you that in BANGLADESH she is not allowed
: to convert. Only way she can marry is he converts Voluntarily!!!
: 
: I don't know what is the punishment in case she chosses to break the law.
: 
: Why I call her TRAPED GIRL?
: 
: Because
: 
: 1) She didnot convert to Islam, She was born in it.

A muslim is not automatically converted to ISLAM. She must first be taught
the standard conversion procedure: that is:

"There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is a messenger of God"

: 
: 2) She has no way in which she can become anon-muslim.
: 
IN ISLAM, she had never been a Muslim. Even worse, she is a hypocrite if she
does not inform her parents.
	As to her treatment, it depends on the society. Most society will 
treat her as an outcast, and this happens to other religions as well. Among
muslims there are those who believe that the penalty is death, but I do not
seem to hear stories of it being carried out. I only hear of it being nearly
carried out, but on noticing the sincerity of the person, his brother just
cannot carry it out.
	Maybe the 2 principles I mentioned above had taken hold of the
would be assasin.
	I also know of one chinese young girl who converted to Islam on her
free will, suddenly changed her mind very quickly once her parents caught hold
of her.
	The pressure is too great for most people to bear in converting form
one religion to another unless they are grown up. My advise it to delay
the conversion process until they are independent.
	After all, religion is a belief. We do not have to show it openly.
there is no need for a certificate. The minimum requirement to not become
a muslim is to not believe in "no god but allah". In fact muslims are so scared
of this that, they say it many times per day, in fact as much as possible.
	For the same way, to be saved (at least) a non-muslim just have to
believe sincerely that "there is no god but allah".
--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
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