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From: alan@solb1.essex.ac.uk (Alan M Stanier)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: man pages for dvitops
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:16:07 GMT
Reply-To: alan@essex.ac.uk
Organization: University of Essex Computing Service, Colchester CO4 3SQ, UK


Does anyone out there have the man pages for dvitops? If so, could
they please mail me a copy?

Thanks


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From: dimitria@csd.uch.gr (Georgios Dimitriadis)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Question: table/figure & caption side by side ?
Keywords: latex figure table
Date: 29 Jul 92 02:01:06 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Crete HELLAS

Latex puts the caption of figures and tables either on top or at the bottom
of the figure/table (postscript figures included). Is there a way to put
the caption not at the bottom but in one side (left or right) of the
table/figure. This would be possible if the figure/table has say
a width of less than 5cm and I would like to put at one side the caption
which would be a paragraph (parbox) with a width of also less than 5cm.
The sum of the two widths should be less than \textwidth.
Captions which are longer than one line are also a problem, because they
should be included in parboxes and are therefore typeset with the 
table/figure number not in the right place (beginning of paragraph 
in the first line).

If there is a sty file, which enables such captions (than it should work
for both tables and figures), or if someone knows a way to doit, please
E-mail me.

Graphically, i would like to have:

+---------------------+ 
|                     | Fig. 1: This the caption to figure 1,
|                     | which begins at the top of that figure.
|                     |
|   figure/table      |  
|                     | 
|                     | Fig. 1: This is the caption to figure 1, 
|                     | which ends at the bottom line of that figure.
+---------------------+

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From: MATCP@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU (PISANI,Carmelo)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: pictures with emtex:aspect ratios
Date: 28 Jul 92 07:58:36 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.22

I have generated some plots via Gnuplot which I wish to encorporate
into a Latex document using emtex. My problem is that the aspect ratio
which I see on the screen previewer, dviscr (which is the same as I get out
of gnuplot) is not the same as what comes out when I print the document.
To elaborate with an example, whereas gnuplot and dviscr display a circle
on the screen, when I plot out the picture I get an ellipse. While I
could, through trial and error, arrange to get a circle printed while
dviscr shows an ellipse, I would prefer to remedy the problem.
Any suggestions?
				Thanks

				Carmelo Pisani
				Maths. Dept.
				Latrobe University
				Bundoora, Australia
From: carlisle@cs.man.ac.uk (David Carlisle)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: \indent fails to work in article style
Date: 28 Jul 92 09:54:01 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester
In-reply-to: erh0362@tesla.njit.edu's message of 22 Jul 92 22:38:33 GMT


>>>>> On 22 Jul 92 22:38:33 GMT, erh0362@tesla.njit.edu (Elliotte Rusty Harold) said:

Elliotte> 	A journal I'm preparing an article for requires all
Elliotte> paragraphs to be indented.  Apparently the article style in
Elliotte> LaTeX does not indent the first paragraph of a new section.

You can use indentfirst.sty available from various places including:


If you would like to retrieve the file, include the command:
 SENDME STY.INDENTFIRST
in the body of a mail message to FILESERV@SHSU.BITNET (FILESERV@SHSU.edu). 
If you would like an overview of FILESERV, include the command HELP in your
message.  For anonymous ftp access, use Niord.SHSU.edu (192.92.115.8) and
look in the directory [FILESERV.STY].

David
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From: scalawag@milton.u.washington.edu (Keith Frederick)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: TeX for the Impatient for sale ($15)
Date: 26 Jul 92 04:19:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Jul26.041951.2894
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

I have  TeX for the Impatient for sale. It is written by Paul
Abrahams. It is in near-mint condition, I just skimmed it once
and never used it after that (I decided to go the Word for Windows
route).

The price I'm asking is $15. THAT INCLUDES SHIPPING IN THE UNITED STATES.

If you have questions, please leave me e-mail as I don't read this
newsgroup.

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From: moss@cs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Date: 17 Jul 92 18:13 MDT
Subject: Re: Help w/ emTeX
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Nf-From: cs.umass.edu!moss    Jul 17 18:13:00 1992


>>>>> On 16 Jul 92 20:10:47 GMT, loren@wmkt.wharton.upenn.edu (Loren Miller)
>>>>> said:

Loren> Finally, you have to keep a copy of config.ps and psfonts.map in the
Loren> same directory as your .tex files. I don't know why this is the case,
Loren> but it's the only way that works.

I don't understand this. Everything works fine on my system and I keep those
files in one place (d:\tex\dvips\), and let dvips know this via the TEXCONFIG
environment variable. On the other hand, I have found it necessary to patch
some emtex related binaries when I put files into my hierarchy, which is not
the same as Matthes', but c'est la vie.

I have found that at least some versions of dvips do arbitrarily bad things
with long lines in config.ps (I was trying to list all my font library files,
which I made myself, and there are over ten of them, but I found that I could
give the directory as an item and then use short names; this still broke with
an older dvips, but the latest dvips386 swallos it fine).
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From: m-lp9966@JED.CS.NYU.EDU (Lewis Perin)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Merging TeX output files
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:39:39 GMT
Distribution: comp.text.tex
Organization: New York University

In article <9207241529.AA11628@jed.cs.nyu.edu> m-lp9966@JED.CS.NYU.EDU (Lewis Perin) writes:
Path: spunky!cmcl2!JED.CS.NYU.EDU!m-lp9966
   From: m-lp9966@JED.CS.NYU.EDU (Lewis Perin)
   Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
   Date: 24 Jul 92 15:29:45 GMT
   Sender: daemon@cmcl2.nyu.edu (Mr Background)
   Distribution: comp.text.tex
   Organization: New York University
   Lines: 7

   Does anyone know of a way to take 2 or more TeX output files (either
   as DVI or `downstream' as HP PCL) and merge them so they'll both (all)
   print?  Under OS/2 with emTeX I've tried this the obvious way with the
   OS's own utility (COPY).  Merge 2 DVI files and the driver sees only
   the first; merge 2 JEP files and the printer sees only the first.

Sorry; I have to retract what I said about COPY.  It works fine for
JEP files.  My problem was with a printer in duplex mode which wanted
a form feed before disgorging the last of 2 files, which happened to
consist of a single page.

Lew
From: johan@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Johan Wevers)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: mathematical symbols?
Keywords: natural numbers, real numbers, LaTeX
Date: 31 Jul 92 09:34:11 GMT
Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands.

In article <4330@drsrv1.hmi.de> dej@drsrv1.hmi.de (Andreas Schulz-Dieterich) writes:
>We're looking for the symbols of natural and real numbers in LaTeX:
>                              __
>             | |\   |      | |  \
>             | | \  |      | |__/
>             | |  \ |      | | \
>             | |   \|      | |  \
>
>(ASCII offers very poor capabilities but you will understand.)
>
>Any hints appreciated. Thanks in advance,
>-Andreas

Try: \newcommand{\RR}{\mbox{I\hspace{-1ex}R}}
and \newcommand{\NN}{\mbox{I\hspace{-1ex}N}}

If you prefer the symbols in italics, symply remove the \mbox and
use them in math mode.

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From: s_mock@irau31.ira.uka.de (Markus Mock)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: LaTex problem: \thanks doesn't show
Keywords: LaTeX, \thanks, footnotes
Date: 28 Jul 92 11:43:39 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: irau31.ira.uka.de

Hi there,

I am using LaTeX Version 2.09 <14 January 1991> together
with TeX, C Version 3.14t3 and I tried to do the following:


\documentstyle[12pt,titlepage]{article}

\title{My favorite subject} 
 
\author{
        Dr. Jekyll\thanks{foo@bar}\\  something\\ 
         \and Mr. Hyde\thanks{hal@snafu}\\ more things 
       }

\maketitle
\begin{document}
...


and I expected foo@bar and hal@snafu to show up at the bottom as
a footnote. However, all I get is the superscripted numbers 1 and
two at the end of Jekyll and Hyde respectively but nothing at 
the bottom.
Any ideas?
Any help will be appreciated!



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Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca (N Tomczak-Jaegermann)
Subject: Re: Help with TeX error message
Keywords: typo isolation, group delimiters
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:36:23 GMT

amlogan@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Adam M. Logan) writes:

>In article <1992Jul28.223317.10113@vela.acs.oakland.edu> jafortun@vela.acs.oakland.edu (James Fortune) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul28.161910.16295@math.toronto.edu> rodney@math.toronto.edu (Peter Rodney) writes:
>>>
>>>(\end occurred inside a group at level 1)
>>>
>You could also try Emacs's validate-TeX-buffer command.  It isn't perfect,
>and its results are displyaed in a confusing fashion, but it still is better
>than nothing.

>Adam

Instead of "nothing" better use lacheck program from iesd.auc.dk which
will tell you pretty fast what is wrong.  (It was also distributed with
the latest version of auc-tex).  Actually lacheck works not only on
LaTeX code, although in case of other macro packages its advices can be
slightly confusing for beginners.  It was written for Un*x but if you
have at least an output from flex then it can be easily ported ot other
platforms as well.

   Michal Jaegermann
   ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca
From: barr@triples.Math.McGill.CA (Michael Barr)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: A bug in \mark?
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:51:17 GMT
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List


For some time, I have been offerring the code below to people who wish
to have uppercase work with characters like \aa.  It had worked well and
it seemed like an obvious fix.  I had never tested it with \mark before.
%%%%%%%%%%%% file starts here %%%%%%%%%%%%%%

\let\uc=\uppercase
\newif\ifucase
\def\ss{\ifucase SS\else\char"19\fi}
\def\aa{\ifucase\AA\else\accent23a\fi}
\def\ae{\ifucase\AE\else\char"1A\fi}
\def\oe{\ifucase\OE\else\char"1B\fi}
\def\o{\ifucase\O\else\char"1C\fi}
\def\uppercase#1{{\ucasetrue \uc{#1}}}

\mark{\uppercase{chapter}}
\bye
%%%%%%%%%%%% file ends here %%%%%%%%%%%%%%

But the latest recipient of this code wrote me that it caused an error
message when he used \chapter.  After some detective work, I isolated
the problem to a bad interaction with \mark.  Here a sample file.  The
error message is

! Incomplete \iffalse; all text was ignored after line 11.
<inserted text>
                \fi
<to be read again>
                   \bye
l.12 \bye

Notice that the \ifucase is executed only when one of the special
characters is executed and this does not happen in the example.  Only
the \ucasetrue is actually executed.  Anyone have any ideas why this is
happening?  Or what to do about it?

BTW, the even simpler file
\newif\iftest
{\testtrue}
\bye
will also elicit the error.

Michael Barr
From: steeve@concour.cs.concordia.ca (HARDY j g steeve)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: faq
Summary: where can i get the faq and a ref. please
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:02:57 GMT
Organization: Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec


 Hi there,
	I just joined your group and after sifting through the three hundred
and some odd articles, I didn't find a FAQ anywhere. Is it either possible for someone to email it to me or even better give me the location where I could
possibly ftp it.
	Second, I have heard that there is a booklet out there called
either,
	A Gentle introduction to LaTeX, or
	A Gentle Introduction to TeX
I would appreciate any information on this. What I am looking for really is 
a simple and hopefully well written introduction, any suggestions/comments are more than welcome.
			Thanks.
					Steeve@cs.concordia.ca
From: sstai@ocf.berkeley.edu (Samuel S. Tai)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Where to get OzTex: A Summary of Sites
Date: 24 Jul 1992 06:55:12 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: planecrash.berkeley.edu
Keywords: Tex, OzTex, Macintosh, Postscript


Thanks to all who responded to my original post asking for the location of
OzTex, a public domain TeX system for Macintosh computers.  Unfortunately,
OzTeX requires a PostScript printer, which I currently do not own, and
have no funds available for purchase.

These ftp sites have OzTeX available--

1.  midway.uchicago.edu
2.  giza.cis.ohio-state.edu
3.  watmsg.waterloo.edu
4.  ymir.claremont.edu
5.  niord.shsu.edu (responder wasn't positive)

I have received assurances that many other TeX ftp sites have OzTeX; please
bear in mind that this list is in no way, shape, or form a DEFINITIVE list.
Once again, I thank all who replied, esp. Norris Preyer <npreyer@oregon.
uoregon.edu>, who gave me names of non-Macintosh sites.

Merci Beaucoup a toutes personnes qui m'ont aider.

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From: weinberg@dupleix.ilog.fr (Michel Weinberg)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: LaTeX or TeX documentation available by ftp? [Summary] [FAQ entry?]
Date: 31 Jul 92 09:07:57 GMT
Organization: ILOG S.A., Gentilly, France
In-reply-to: ravn@imada.ou.dk's message of 20 Jul 92 12:57:44 GMT


>  A useful server for your purpose could be
>      mail-server@rus.uni-stuttgart.de (via Email) (*)
>      anonymous ftp 129.69.1.12

> where you can find something possibly interesting in the directories
>      info/tex
> slightly more in
>      soft/tex/education
> and most in
>      soft/tex/documentation (**)

How can I have info about what is in info/tex ?

I understand that it is possible to subscribe to infotex. How ?
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From: lagally@azu.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Prof. Dr. Klaus Lagally)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: ligatures, kern pairs, and \relax
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:16:34 GMT
Organization: Informatik, Uni Stuttgart, Germany

In article <25545@life.ai.mit.edu> bkph@kauai.ai.mit.edu (Berthold K.P. Horn) writes:
>Suppose there is a font that has a ligature --  ==>  endash
>Now suppose I have a keyboard that doesn't have a -, but does have a + key.
>So I decide to make + active and redefine it to generate the appropriate
>character code for minus, something like
>	\catcode`\+=\active  \def+{\char45}
					^^^
>Now I can type ++ and have it print endash, but...
>if a number follows the endash I am in trouble - for example:
>	pp.~23++67
>`cause now TeX complains about bad character code since it expands into
>pp.~23\char4567  
	    ^^^^
What happens is that TeX tries to read a number up to the first non-digit.
The definition   \def+{\char45 }
will probably work as the blank will be gobbled up by TeX.
What I dont understand now is why you only got one substitution.

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From: mike@ravel.udel.edu (Michael James Porter)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Formats and VM/XA TeX
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:26:13 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

We have a TeX tape dated 3/22/91 for VM/XA.  I ftped a new copy of TeX
(3.141), and made what appeared to be the only needed changes to the
change files.  However, TeX will no longer read a LaTeX format file
(lplain.fmt).  It will read a plain.fmt file though.  I'm certain I
regenerated the fmts after I installed the new TeX.  I checked the
differences between initex.cms-chan and tex.cms-chan, and saw only
expected differences.

The error I get when loading the format is the 
'(Fatal format file error; I'm stymied)' messages.

'BigTeX' will read all the various format files created with 'BIniTeX'.

Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions?

Mike
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: phfrom@nyx.uni-konstanz.de (Hartmut Frommert)
Subject: \@gobble (was Re: LaTeX environment for comments)
Keywords: LaTeX, comment
Organization: Dept. of Physics, University of Constance
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 10:19:37 GMT

A side remark:

hong@cithe501.cithep.caltech.edu (John Hong) writes:
..
>In writing a long document using LaTeX, I want to comment out large
>sections of material once in a while.  I don't want to delete them
>because I may want them back later.   [..]
>       \def\comment#1{}

Such a command ('\@gobble') is defined in latex.tex, so you could also
        \def\comment{\@gobble}
in a *.sty file or
        \makeatletter\def\comment{\@gobble}\maheatother 
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From: jun@szklab.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Nishii Jun)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: rotate epsfile
Date: 23 Jul 92 07:02:33 GMT
Reply-To: jun@szklab.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp
Distribution: comp.text.tex
Organization: University of Tokyo, Mathematical Eng. and Infomation Physics


I want to rotate the epsfile in LaTeX Document for printing the
landscape style.
In the case of psfile, We can use

\special{psfile=foo.ps rotation=90}
                      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Is there any option like this for epsfile ?

Jun Nishii
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From: tolk@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Robert Tolksdorf)
Subject: Strange formatting, how to avoid?
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:41:15 GMT

Hello,

from time to time, TeX/LaTeX comes out with such a strange formatting,
and I ask myself why and perform some real bad alterations to my input
text to avoid it. Look at this: the input-TeXt is

----
\section{Typing of services}

In ISO's standardization approach for Open Distributed Processing ODP
(\cite{iso:N6080}, \cite{iso:N6079}), the computational viewpoint sees
an open system as a set of computational objects that use and provide
services. They are -- said simplyfied -- described by {\it
signatures\/} which form the computational interface type. A signature
consists of a set of {\it operation signatures\/} that name an
operation, the number and types of arguments and the number and types
of result values.
---

The dvi looks like (output of dvi2tty, but its obvious):
----
3______Typing__of__services____________________________________*

In
ISO's standardization approach for Open Dis-
tributed Processing ODP ([ISO91b     ], [ISO91a    ]),
the computational viewpoint sees an open sys-
tem as a set of computational objects that use
and provide services.  They are - said simply-
fied - described by signatures  which form the
computational interface type.  A signature con-
sists of a set of operation signatures that name
an  operation,  the  number  and  types  of  argu-
ments and the number and types of result val-
ues.
---

So, why is the ``In'' alone on it's line?
btw: The first line was better filled (but still underfill) when I
wrote ``approach in Open''.

Ciao Robert



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From: richard@serss0.fiu.edu (Albert Chin)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: space after headline
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:48:28 GMT
Organization: Florida International University, Miami


I need to set some absolute space after a headline. \topskip seemed
to do this. However, when I create a table that doesn't fit on the
current page, it is printed on the top of the next page, *immediately*
below the headline. \topskip is ignored. Why is this and how do I fix
it?

albert
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: fayegh@cs.ubc.ca (David Fayegh)
Subject: INITEX and OzTeX 1.42
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 11:47:14 GMT


Fellow OzTeXers:

I was just wondering if anybody has had any problems with 
"&plain latex" in INITEX? With 1.42, using the Default (or Large TeX) config
file, I can, "plain" and successfuly "\dump" plain.fmt and Large-Plain.fmt
files. But, for some mysterious reason :-), OzTeX chokes on latex.tex file 
when I try to dump a latex.fmt file.  If you have noticed this problem
OR have been able to successfuly \dump latex.fmt (or Large-Latex.fmt)
then please let me know here or via email. Thanks in advance.

Cheers for now, --df
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