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From: GRYMBLE GRUMBLE <williama@kenyon.edu>
Subject: Roseland Gathering ???
Reply-To: williama@kenyon.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:52:12 GMT

Hey now phriends!,

                 I was still wondering whether anyone is still interested 
in gathering for the Roseland shows? Of course, this goes out to the
few of you who don't hate me after my last post! ;^) Seriously though,
I am trying to set up something. There are plenty of happenings going
on around the club, all of which are potentially dangerous though. I 
would still advocate a safer place in the village like Boxers or
soemthing but it is far from the club and you would have to take your
chances with the subway and taxis. Any other New Yorkers have any other
ideas? Please feel free to write to me or just post your idea. Once again,
I am really sorry about that last post, it wasn't even a grovel for me,
I was trying to help out some people I know. So hate me but help them
out (if you can) they had nothing to do with it. I was trying to help
bake the cake and instead I burn down the house (flames galore!). May
Icculus bless my pathetic soul!

                           Still feeling bad about what I did,
                                                               dre. :^(

I'll make up for this somehow....
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: GRYMBLE GRUMBLE <williama@kenyon.edu>
Subject: CD RECORDER NOT MD!
Reply-To: williama@kenyon.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 00:58:28 GMT

RICH,

     First hope you got the tape list from me. If not I'll have
to see what I did wrong with the distribution list...
Second, I was talking about professional CD recorders not those
little md things you can buy in crutchfield or Dak! I don't even know
if they exist but if technology can advance the Tape to Dat standards 
of perfection, then why can't it do the same for the Cd format. I know
DAt are CD analogs, so to speak, but with technology bounding and rolling
like a cantelope out of control who is to say what the next medium of
choice will be. Cd's would be way more portable and less bulky than tapes
besides the advantage of random access, plus I am sure you could find some
sort of dsp technology to enhance the CD while it is played to get all
sorts of atmospheres to listen to. Don't mean to ramble on about this
but I am all for Cd recorders when pro models becoem available. Just my
thoughts and rantings.
                          dre.
From: "Scott R. Hayes" <s_hayes@oz.plymouth.edu>
Subject: Personal to BOB SNYDER
Reply-To: s_hayes@oz.plymouth.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:00:53 GMT

Bob,

This is concerning Gregg's Hedge.  I don't have your email address but
I wanted to let you know I got your tapes and I just sent you my copy
of the Warfield Th., 4/17/92.  Later!

Scott
From: rafael@cats.ucsc.edu (David Erik Konerding)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: West Coast Tour Dates!
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:17:17 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


"John D. Moore" <has2jdm@cabell.vcu.edu> writes:

>March 25- Santa Cruz Comm.Center Theatre
>March 26,27-warfield, San Fran 

Right ON!!! UC Santa Cruz's Spring Break starts (except for some unlucky souls)
basically the day Phish will be in Santa Cruz.  VERY NICE TIMING!!  My last
final is Wednesday morning so I've already got tix for Santa Rose.  Many
thanks to the folks who graciously planned the Phish shows in such a good
manner :-)

	BTW, having the phish show at the Community Center Theater is OK with
me... avoids all the problems with Catalyst's shows being almost always 21+.
The Louden Nelson Community Center Theater is an OK place... they held a Rave
there a couple weekends ago- it's not terribly big, and best of all, although
there is seating on the side and rear, the floor is just THAT... a floor!!
Very very nice for dancing.


>all 3 go on sale Feb 14
-- 
---
David Konerding						   rafael@cats.ucsc.edu
University of California, Santa Cruz
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Andrew J Wise <wiseandr@student.msu.edu>
Subject: tapes
Reply-To: wiseandr@student.msu.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:51:40 GMT

Hey!  I would like to know if anyone has any access to getting Maxell Xl-II or
TDK SA for a REALLY CHEAP price.
Let me know please
Andy
wiseandr@student.msu.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Lawrence Fine <lfine@mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
Subject: XTRA TICKET TO ROSELAND ON THEE 6TH
Reply-To: lfine@mhc.mtholyoke.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:33:25 GMT


	I am unable to get a ride, as my friend bailed out on me.  AS a
result I can't go.  I'll sell it for 22.50 (what i paid w/ service charge)
		Se ya soon- hopefullly    JaKeOb
From: cs199ab@sdcc5.ucsd.edu (Phanatic)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: dbx again
Date: 26 Jan 93 00:35:49 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Just a quick clairification... there is of course a _slight_ verging
on non-existent generation loss when recording dbx encoded tapes
varying w/the equipment used to copy the tape (and tape type).  
With good machines doing the dubbing (dbx doesn't need to be decoded 
off the play deck then re-encoded for the record deck) onto good
tapes, the loss is minimal/unhearable...
			Waiting Impatiently for Santa Rosa...
					Mark

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: RAVENEL@husc1.harvard.edu
Subject: Interviews
Reply-To: RAVENEL@husc1.harvard.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:39:51 GMT

	Thanks Shelly for posting those interviews--they're great!  It's great 
to see that we are in fact in a communicative cycle here with the band.  They 
(obviously) love making music and we (obviously) love listening to it-- the two
complement each other quite well.  Looking forward to Providence and Roseland!
	Ramsay:-)

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Jay Flemma <jflemma@mailbox.syr.edu>
Subject: Re: Phish Digest #744 
Reply-To: jflemma@mailbox.syr.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:18:59 GMT

    In reply to rstern who asks...
     "why do people still use high bias tapes instead of metal."

     Because it is pretty widely known that significant use of metal tapes
   will destroy the heads in your tape deck.  They will erode it into dust
   long before its time.  (FYI I got 4 yrs of excellent performance
   from my Denon-810 heads (yes its a 3-head deck) before having to replace them.
     Most companies anticipate a life span of about one year with
 extensive use of metal tapes.
     BTW - replacement heads are *VERY* expensive.
   Metal tapes are best for live recording in the arena, but then the best
   practice is to make a play copy onto high bias and *STASH* your master.
    (Pun intended)
       Hey rstern...excatly what kind of taping do you do?  Will we see you
   in the pit this tour?  What kind of deck do you have?

   Also...what are they saying in You Enjoy Mys........
               ...just kidding.....
        ...:-)   :->
      On a more serious note, how can non Genevans or Hobartians get
        Geneva tix...where do we call???????????   
       ...from the land where the oceans freeze...
                 Jaybar
From: ROBINSON@ups.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Jambay
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:25:34 GMT
Reply-To: ROBINSON@ups.edu
Organization: The Internet

Would the person from SD who asked about Jambay please email
me personally. I erased before I wrote the address. This is the Phish 
net, and I will reserve space for Phish. 2^3-COlin
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Eric Budke <budkee@unvax.union.edu>
Subject: NO MORE JANICE
Reply-To: budkee@unvax.union.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:24:44 GMT

Please no more about Janice it becomes tiresome to read posts from ten
different people all saying the same thing.  Granted it does reinforce
that community thing but I'd rather read about Phish.  Granted this post is
quite hypocritical I I know but I figured it was abot time.  
Also about .sig files. I see nothing whrong with them if they are only
a few lines, especially for digest readers.  I can't tell you how
many times I've had to foward through 3/4 of the digest just to see
someone's address that I want to respond to because it got cut off 
at the beginning of the screen or their post was a long (not a complaint)
and the address was a few pages earlier.  For usenet who cares?
For digests I think it makes life easier and they are usually separated
so if you don't want to read them they stand apart.
-- 
 Eric Budke    budkee@unvax.union.edu      Union College Box 241
"One word sums up probably the             Schenectady NY 12308
 responsibility of any Vice President      518-386-4198
 and that one word is 'to be prepared'." -ex VP Dan Quayle
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Bill Press <press@lip.wustl.edu>
Subject: Sony D6
Reply-To: press@v1.wustl.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:48:50 GMT

A tip to you all, handed down from wiser sources (sorry... I didn't save
the messages, so I don't remember your name):

If you want to buy a Sony D6, call J&R Music World. See, around here it was
listing for $400. But when I called them, they had it listed for $350. Now,
this oh so kind fellow on the net told me he bought it from J&R for $319. So
when I called J&R, I told them that I was looking for a tape deck in a 
slightly lower (than $350) price range, that I knew that the D6 price
recently changed (I don't know if that's true), and that a friend of mine 
bought it for cheaper.
	"What did your friend pay?" He asked.
	"$319."
	"OK, it's $319... do you want it?"
	Sure, I said, definately. But it was too easy... if anybody's in
the market for a tape deck, this is a really good one. Portable, very high
quality sound, and pitch control (I've heard... though I'm not sure). Give
it a try... and start lower, see what you can get.

	Bill

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: jeff@max.physics.sunysb.edu (Jeff Althoff)
Subject: Phishnetters who scalp? (was Re: HOLD UP, WAIT ONE DARN MINUTE!)
Organization: Institute for the Theoretical Physics
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:15:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.054836.125@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> williama@kenyon.edu writes:
>
>last show I attended in Columbus there were *netters* scalping tix outside
>the door. I don't know if you want me to send their names or something
>so you can kick them off the net or what! People are going to do what they 

Now I'm really bummed. I think you should definiely post their names so
that people on the net know not to sell them tickets. I personally 
would not want an extra ticket that I had going to someone who does this.
What's the alternative, never sell an extra to anyone from the net 
for fear that they're a scalper? 

I say, out the scalpers! Post their names! We must stop this! 

Jeff. 
--
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Bloomsburg tix to trade
From: <DWE107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:18:40 EST
Organization: Penn State University

     I have extra Bloomsburg,Pa tix to trade for any Roseland,NYC and
Listener, DC tix.  Respond please e-mail dwe107@psuvm.psu.edu or call
(814) 862-4882 and ask for Kurt.
                                :-0 :-0
                                   Dan
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Jeff Maggard 21-Jan-1993 1237 <maggard@subpac.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Re: Tree seed
Reply-To: maggard@subpac.enet.dec.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:49:50 GMT

From: Shawn McKenzie <shawnm@nevada.edu>
| If someone out there would like to start a tree, I can get DATs of the
| Portchester shows that happened Thanksgiving weekend, and NYE.  Both were
| recorded with Nakamichi 300 mikes, onto a D3.  

I supposedly *AM RUNNING* the DAT branch for Kurt Overburg's NYE tree.  I'm
still looking for FM->DAT copies of the first 3 songs of set one and all of
two (I have set 3).  If anyone can help me out with FM->DAT copies, it would
be greatly appreciated by many folks.  

If there is any interest in a tree of Portchester, please send a message to
me at 'maggard@subpac.enet.dec.com'   I have DAT's of both shows (thanks
John!) and I'm willing to run a tree of those shows once my other tree
committments are finished (next month?).


From: bing@Apple.COM (Christopher R. Bingham)
| when was Tube last played?  

It was played @ Albany 11-20-92 Set II.  My first Tube.


From: JOSEEBACH@davidson.bitnet
| He seemed to think that the aforementioned Dude always wore a mask on
| stage

He had no mask @ Albany 11-20-92.


- jeff
From: h7l@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: geneva grovel and 4/22/90 request
Date: 25 Jan 93 23:14:48 EST
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

my apologies to those of you who despise grovelling, but here goes anyway...

anyone got any geneva extras? i would be interested in 2 or 3, will pay
ticketbastard charges or other nasty service charges....


on another grovelly note, anyone got high quality copies of 4/22/90 to trade? I
have lotsa phish to trade, or other stuff - whatever's yer fancy pretty much;-)

thanks for any and all responses!
see y'all at roseland! any gathering ideas? plenty of neat places in ny!!!


smiley thoughts yer way....
sarah
H7L@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Shawn McKenzie <shawnm@nevada.edu>
Subject: Gamehenge to ASCII
Reply-To: shawnm@nevada.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 08:15:32 GMT

Well, I just put the finishing touches on my paper on
Gamehenge, so I thought I'd just relax, have a homebrew,
and send a GODAMNED LAME MESSAGE to this beautiful and
friendly community called Phish Net ;-)

I'm quite illeterate (and lost without my spellcheck) about
computers, and I have some questions I hope some of you can
answer.  

I am running Word 5.0 on a Macintosh.  I would like to convert
my files to ASCII so that I can get the paper onto the net.
(Don't worry, I wont post 9 pages to the Phish net)  A friend knows
how to do it on her PC, and Word will convert files from Mac
to PC.  Do I need a disk initiated for a PC, or will her machine
be able to read a Macintosh disk?

OLMC:(obligatory lame message content)

             8                                     _____________
                                                  | What does it|
                                                  |   all mean? |
                                    5             \  ___________/
                                                 O \/
                                                 o ___
                     2^3                         o/o  \/|
                                                  \___/\|

      23

Shawn McKenzie
shawnm@nevada.edu
;-)
From: gertben@ocf.berkeley.edu (Benjamin Gertner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Bay Area Tour Dates
Date: 27 Jan 1993 01:17:33 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: tornado.berkeley.edu

I'd limit the distribution on this, but who knows how far you crazy
Phish-net people will go to see this band?!? 

I went to my local BASS outlet yesterday to buy Santa Rosa tix. BTW,
thanks for the tip! Unfortunately they closed the outlet where I work
and I didn't feel like harassing the poor, innocent Tower employee, so here
is the info. I was able to get...

Wednesday, March 24 - Luther Burbank Center, Santa Rosa, CA (On Sale Now!)
Thursday, March 25 - ??????????????????, Santa Cruz, CA (On Sale ?)
Friday and Saturday, March 26&27 - The Warfield - San Fran., CA (On Sale ?)

That's about as helpful as I can be, but judging from past BASS experience,
I would bet that if the dates are on the computer they will probably
go on sale either Saturday or Sunday morning at 10. Sorry I'm
unsure about where the Santa Cruz show is, but I have a feeling it
may be the Civic Aud. and not the Catalyst. don't quote me on that.
Good luck to all with getting th tickets you need to keep your vital
signs normal. Don't say I didn't warn you - get your Warfield tickets
early because a year ago they missed a sell out by 50 or something
and that was a year ago in Phish time. You know what that means!

-Ben
From: IO21087@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: To Ben Pierce
Date: 22 Jan 93 04:04:25 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

Zoiks!!!

Ben, Don't have an account yet, But I'll get one next week.

Talk to you then.


Jeff L.
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: mgoldbrg@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Goldberg)
Subject: Re: lame messages
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 00:38:28 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.172413.5935@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> ravens@eniac.seas.upenn.edu writes:
>NO MORE LAME, MEANINGLESS MESSAGES, GODDAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


like yours?  or mine for that matter?  

relax, pal, if you don't like it, don't read it.  sorry to waste your precious
time, i didn't know this was moderated by you.

incase you haven't figured it out, the "subject" often gives a pretty good
indication of what the post is about.  That's where you can utilize the N
button, or the K  kill file if you so desire, but who are you to criticise
what people post?

valium might work,
mark
-- 
* Mark L. Goldberg *********************************** "Hal, for God's sakes, *
* mgoldbrg@casbah.acns.nwu.edu ******************** would'ya hit the wipers?" *
* Department of Radio/Television/Film ********************** -David Letterman *
* Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois ******************************* *
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Jeff Maggard 22-Jan-1993 1149 <maggard@subpac.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Re: tape->DAT->CD whatever
Reply-To: maggard@subpac.enet.dec.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:59:56 GMT

re: NYE tree

The NYE tree is not done yet, and has not been posted.


From: Rich Fromm 21-Jan-1993 1805 <fromm@rock.enet.dec.com>
| although i don't know if there are any DATs that use all 24 (perhaps the
| pro decks use 20; any dat-head know?)

Nope, pro decks write and read in 16 bits just like the consumer decks.
There might be a few out there that can handle more bits, but none I've
heard of.

| since a good deck will rewind a 120 minute tape in about 30 seconds, it's
| pretty damn close to random access for me (you can encode start ids, so you
| can skip ahead to another track just as easily as on a CD, it just takes
| slightly longer)

Most home DAT decks can wind through 5 minutes of music in less than a
couple seconds.  Most of the delay is not in winding the tape, but in the
motions of the VCR-like transport mechanism.  When you skip to the next
start ID, the deck has to stop and let go of the tape, and then spin it
until the next start-ID goes by.  It then stops and backs up to the
beginning of the start-ID and starts playing.

I agree with Dre in a preference for recordable CD's.  Sony's Minidisk (like
DCC) doesn't preserve enough sonic information, IMO.  The day will come
when they can record onto optical disks in real time without needing to lop
off 3/4 of the bit stream.  I'll be the first guy in the store on that day!

;-)

- jeff
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: molly rinaldi <RINA0243@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu>
Subject: that sort of band.........
Reply-To: RINA0243@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:46:55 GMT

Date sent:  21-JAN-1993 12:36:11 
why have i become so addicted to phish??
here is my dilemma..................
   i am in my final semester of college.  i am working on a research 
project that will take up all my spare time.....including spring break.  i 
was going to head out west for break an see the boys out there.  now i know 
that this last semester is very important.  i have applied to the peace 
corps and this project will look very good to them.  also, the proff i'm 
working with is writing one of my recommendations, and has offered to get 
me into a grad program if the peace corps don't take me.
   WHY CAN'T I JUST ACCEPT MY CURRENT FATE?  ALL I CAN THINK ABOUT IS THE 
SHOWS I WILL MISS!!! 
   is there some sort of name for this condition???  why are they that sort 
of band?  i have seen at least one show of almost every tour since the fall 
of 90.  i guess i really know the answers to my questions....they are 
amazing musicians, and i love what they do.

thanks for bearing with my sob story....pity me if you feel the urge.
drownding in a river sadness...................................molly
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: SCA7477@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
Subject: janice???
Reply-To: SCA7477@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:28:42 GMT

i'm not sure i quite understand.... why, janice, do you assume we're
all snobs or assholes or drug fiends or something?  i think the only
"messages" we're trying to send here are entertaining, friendly, and 
informative ones to each other.  and i'm not too sure your posts have 
fallen into that catagory.  naturally, people were offended by your 
posts - and considering the contents of those posts, one can only
assume that was your intention (to offend people). if i'm wrong and 
your message was in fact friendly and purposeful, please let me know.
and even after molly posted that wonderful message to you (that even 
you seemed to like) you continued to rank on and make assumptions about 
net users as a whole.  janice, please keep in mind that we are all 
individuals (with feelings - injurable ones) who are trying to 
connect a community with a common interest (one you say you share).
name-calling is unnecessary.  you've certainly hurt some feelings 
and pissed some people off - that's not the best way to introduce 
yourself to a community.  if people have replied to you unkindly
and you're upset about it, consider what you wrote.  if you're 
still upset, then fine - but realize that by returning the insults,
you're only stooping to the level you believe them to be at.  but 
please stop making assumptions about people you don't know.  give 
us a chance.  to speak of elitism - what makes you better than 
everyone on the net?  that's not a dis, but it's what you seem to be
saying, and take it as food for thought.  why so bitter??  no one 
ever said "netters" were holier than thou but you seem to be 
out to prove it!
		enough for now...
			please everyone stop tearing each other apart!
				peace, love & phish...
					disillusionedly yours...
						-chris
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Bill Press <press@lip.wustl.edu>
Subject: personal to Eric Burke (sp?)
Reply-To: press@v1.wustl.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:20:16 GMT

I lost your address... please send it to me.

	Thanks,
	Bill

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: s217289@cc.gettysburg.edu
Subject: digestified list
Reply-To: s217289@cc.gettysburg.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:20:56 GMT

Please add me to the most recent digestified list.

							Thanks a lot!
							Jackson Wang
							s217289@gettysburg.edu