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From: rej@sal.wisc.edu (Randy Jones)
Subject: Re: New Eno?
Keywords: Eno
Organization: Hanatarashi
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:20:38 GMT

In article <malcolm.716170378@wrs.com> malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:
>I'm curious if the new Eno music - Fractal Zoom and Nerve Net - are making
>any kind of an impact in the rave scenes yet? Are they getting played? If
>so, what tracks? 
>
> - malcolm@wrs.com 

Hmmm. I haven't heard anyone playing it, although I'm not living where
there's a major scene. But I don't *think* it will take well to the
dancefloor. I'd happily dance to a couple of the tracks, (especially the
Moby remixes off the EP) but for the most part it's too cerebral, just
not thumpin' enough to be danceogenic. Though I had the same thoughts as
you did, and I could see techno in the next few years branching out into
similar territory.


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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Mike Oldfield got back
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 18:08:57 GMT
Organization: Lollapalooza Phoenix Eastern Mosh Pit Smoke-Mask Crew

schnizer@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Schnizer Ansgar) writes:

> I stumbled over an article posted on this net maybe last week telling
> us that Mike Oldfield is working together with the Orb (or was it
> Orbital?).  
>
> What the helium were the last twenty years good for if someone like Mike
> Oldfield can come back and mess up a music style I used to like??? 

If you can't see the connection between what Oldfield and people like him
were doing during the 1970s and what bands like The Orb, Ultramarine,
System 7/777 and company are doing today, you're missing the point
*completely*.  System 7 is a Steve Hillage project, for Christ's sake. 

At any rate, The Orb are only remixing Oldfield's new album (_Tubular
Bells II_), so you needn't fret that the music style you like is going to
be "polluted" -- though if you really hate dinosaur prog as much as you
claim, I'm not sure how you can stand to listen to bands like the Orb in
the first place. 

(Of course, it's kind of hard to take someone seriously who's slagged off
an entire genre of music based on *one* experience with it fifteen years
ago...)  

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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: bt178@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David James)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Todd Terry
Date: 10 Sep 1992 13:10:55 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu




To any interested parties:
 
Todd Terry will be spinning at
the Smart Bar in Cleveland this
coming Saturday.


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From: sg@monsoon.com (Sunil Gupta)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: CDs Are No Subsitute For Vinyl For DJs
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 12:03:33 EDT
Organization: Monsoon Software, Inc.

cbarilleaux@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Cyberpreppie) writes:

> Well, I do realize 5M is trivial. However, that is assumking a five minute
> song. What if it were longer?

Get more RAM!

> The bigger issue is the uploading. I realize that you can read CD's into a
> computer (my job involoves those). Yes, it doesn't have to be done in real
> time. But, each time you want to load up a song, you have to download the fiv
> megs. The speed the data is transfered from the CD to the RAM becomes the
> issue, more specifically the speed of the player. If you want to upload a
> bunch, you need a bunch RAM to hold it all if you wish to use this machine
> several times in a row.
> In short: if I wanted to upload an hours worth of stuff into ram in advance, 

Well, each tool has its limitations. The question would be, would a composer
put up with whatever delays the process dictated? I think being able to
perform real-time digital effects would be worth a few minutes of load and
save time. With more horsepower (faster machines), you'd be able to process
more data in a shorter time-span, and with solid-state memory technology
advancing as fast as it is, we should be able to hold a whole CD in RAM
sometime by the middle of the decade.

Sunil Gupta
Monsoon Software, Inc.
sg@monsoon.com
From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Boston? Boston? Boston???
Date: 12 Sep 92 03:51:42 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

Can rave etc be seen/heard/felt/sensed in Boston or vicinity?
On the radio, even? 

(gosh, Brian Eno. Takes me back...)


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From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: Re: 808 State - any questions?
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:41:25 GMT

bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf)) writes:

Subsequent tour information?  Are they touring with Meat Beat?  Are they going
to consider not attempting to fake their instruments and put more into their
show?  Why was last year's show so pathetic?
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: eda747nsft@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au
Subject: 808 AND ALTERN-8 - WHATS THE BIG DEAL?
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 10:38:36 GMT

WHATS THE BIG DEAL ON 808 STATE AND ALTERN-8 ??


THEY HAVE SOLD OUT !!!


I'VE GOT THE ALTERN-8 (RHYTHM OF LIFE) LP FROM THE SUMMER OF 88-89 UK.
DAMN WICKID. I LISTEN TO THEIR LATEST EFFORTS ... COMMERCIAL CRAP !


AND 808. WELL, PACIFIC, QUADRASTATE AND NEWBUILD EP. FUCKING BRILLIANT.
NOW LISTEN TO THEIR MUSIC .... COMMERCIAL CRAP !


MOVE ON READERS .. LOOK AT FORCE INC. (GER), MFS (GER), R&S (BEL), OVERDRIVE
(GER), UR (US), TRESSOR (GER), GUERILLA (UK), RISING HIGH (UK, THE OLDER
STUFF), WONKA (HOL), GO BANG (HOL), ESP (HOL), ETC..

THE ARE TRANCE AND HARDCORE. THESE ARE WHAT MAKE THE RAVE ON DR**S THE VOYAGE
TO THE PLACE YOU HAVE NOT BEEN TO BEFORE. EVEN WITHOUT DR*** THE MUSIC IS HARD
AND IS WHY YOU ARE THERE.



I THINK 808 AND ALTERN-8 HAVE NOW TURNED THE LEAF OF THE LIKES OF ADAMSKI,
AND K-KLASS .. SELL OUTS..


ANY OTHER PEOPLE OUT THERE SHARE MY VIEW (OPINION THAT IS)


RICHIE "RICH" MC NEILL
HARDWARE HARDCORE !!!!

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: Gregg.Lukomski <Gregg.Lukomski@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Fla-Vo-Rave in Milwaukee
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 04:46:14 GMT

	Saturday September 12th   11pm to ???
		Milwaukee, WI

			Drop Base Network Presents


				Fla-Vo-Rave
		
			a night of tasty techno music


		DJs :James Johnson - Chicago
		     ESP Woody     - Minneapolis
	 	     Nick Nice     - Madison
		     Dan Planet    - Milwaukee
		     Chris Floyd   - Dallas

			Call the Rave Hot Line For Info:

				(414) 283-1X1L


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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ndc@arrakis.engin.umich.edu (Andrew C Crosby)
Subject: Re: Kamikaze = Kill $ ???
Originator: ndc@arrakis.engin.umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan (CAEN)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:55:35 GMT


In article <1992Sep11.204558.26732@athena.mit.edu>, nivekogr@athena.mit.edu (Christopher M Teixeira) writes:
> In article <1992Sep10.104126.1@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au> edd586ysft@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au writes:
> >
> >
> >I'm curious.....
> >
> >I'm wondering how many people out there have a copy of "Kamikaze" by W.P.A.
> >(alias Underground Resistance).  What I wanna know is how much they paid for
> >it.
> >

i picked it up for either $4.49 us or $4.99, i can't remember.

> >I paid $18 Australian, for the thing.  It has just the one track (which bear in
> >mind is pretty good), and no B side... yep, just all LSD messages written all
> >over where the B side track should be.
> >

this annoyed me a lot.. the first three wpa releases all only have one track.
even $5 seems like a lot for one song, no matter how good it is.

i like 'seawolf' the best i think.

andy
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown)
Subject: pseudo-rave in Youngstown, OH [repost]
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 11:57:03 GMT

ATTENTION!  Youngstown isn't exactly down with techno so if you are anywhere
near there, PLEASE come to this rave to make it a success!

In Your Face Bass and Ecstatic present

            GROOVE TO MOVE
                 Nite

the rave experience comes to Youngstown
Friday Sept 18       Cedar's (downtown)

Featuring:
     the most absolute groovin'-est
techno/house/rave music shaking the floor
all night long complete with special
appearances from:
     Body Release (columbus, oh)
     Big Engine (new castle, pa)

Plus on the turntables spinning heavy doses
of killer rave and underground bass between
stage shows: D.j.EFFy

the music flows at 10pm - groove 'til 2:30 straight

we'll take your mind outta here!       216-743-6560


[note- not a real rave, but definitely worth going to
 if you're in the area, especially since (watch out,
 shameless plug coming) Body Release are playing -MB]


Mike Brown
mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
"The Universe is a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter."
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"The Universe is a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter."
From: gcf@spd.eee.strathclyde.ac.uk (graham Freeland )
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Fractal Zoom (Re: History of Ambient (was Re: Mike Oldfield)
Date: 15 Sep 92 09:32:08 GMT
Organization: Signal Processing Division, University of Strathclyde. Glasgow
Originator: gcf@newton

In article <16862ECEC.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu> EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:
>Speaking of the history of ambient...
>Eno's "Fractal Zoom" CD single has 11 remixes of FZ.
> 
>With all the "Naive" and "Mary's Birthday" etc. mixes,
>is anybody as surprised as I am that there was no "ambient" mix?
> 
>;-)
>--Eric
> 

I thought "Landed" was the ambient mix with the mix subtitle being
an allusion to the "On Land" album from the "Ambient" series.

Graham
From: PMB@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: San Francisco Bay Area raves
Date: 16 Sep 92 00:07:48 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

I understand that there is a post called sfrave which gives details of raves
around San Francisco and the Bay Area.  Does anyone know about it or something
similiar?  I would like to find out more of what is going on.  Thanks in
advance.
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: speedyj@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Justin Wickes)
Subject: Re: Where is Techno at?
To: 10702296@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 02:52:09 GMT

In alt.rave you write:

>Can anyone tell me where to go to hear some good techno in Melbourne?
>I've been searching but I just can't find it!

Hey, it's real easy!!!

First (if you've got a radio), tune in to "Beat In The Street" on Sunday
nights 10pm - 2am on 3RRR (102.7).

Second, you can go to clubs like Whizz (at The Mansion) and Switch (at The
Lounge).

Third, you can go to raves - mostly held on Saturday nights and public
holiday eves.

Finally, for more information on the above, go to Central Station Records
in either Flinders St. or Chappel St. Prarhan - just south of
Malvern/Commercial Rd. (Prarhan is a better store for techno).


Justin "Speedy J" Wickes

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From: Mike J. Brown <mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Setting up an alt.rave image archive
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 13:57:51 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

Alright, there were about 5 'yeas' and 1 'nay' to the idea of setting
up an archive site for scanned photos of ravers and maybe scanned
flyers as well.

Vitamin B's soda site is full, so we will need another.  I will check
into establishing space here, but I'm not confident about being able
to get any.

Pete Ashdown and Oscar Fowler said they have color scanning equipment.
Pete, Oscar, what do you guys have?  Which is better?
Do you have time to scan photos, Oscar?  Pete said he does 'sometimes'.

Mike
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: wyller@gagme.chi.il.us (wyller)
Subject: X-Rave Techno Sampler
Originator: wyller@gagme
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 20:04:36 GMT

I recently picked up a new CD:

X - RAVE

Techno Sampler, cd-1035.

Its on Mega-Tech Records/Mega-Tone.  I really didn't care much for it at
first buts it has grown on me.  Heres the track listing:

Rave (The Jackhammer)        - Fuzzy Logic
Burn this Place Down         - EKO
Megatron                     - Joie De Vivre
Pop Goddess                  - David Diebold
Let's Do it This Way         - EKO
Choral Bel Canto             - Joie De Vivre
What is God?                 - David Diebold
Brainiac                     - EKO

Only four artists - I tend to avoid CDs like this, but none of the tracks
are terrible (IMHO), and I find 'Burn this Place Down' to be quite good.

I suggest this for anyone looking for something a little bit different and
inexpensive (aren't we all?).

Can anyone in the bay area tell me more about this?

-jw

Xref: sparky alt.rave:2986 rec.music.industrial:10335
From: ke0w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kenny Eng)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.industrial
Subject: Utah Saints
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:29:46 GMT
	<1992Sep10.101309.11429@corax.udac.uu.se>
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Did anyone go see the Utah Saints at Limelight in NYC on September 8? 
How were they?

Kenny
From: bsk@acsu.buffalo.edu (Brian S. Kazmierczak)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: moby album??
Date: 13 Sep 92 16:32:48 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Sep13.011131.28250@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> corky@coos.dartmouth.edu (Jeffrey J. Middents) writes:
>all right, does anyone know anything about a full-length moby album? i saw
>a review in entertainment weeklly (glowing, i might add) several weeks ago,
>asked in a few stores but yet have not seen the darned thing. does anyone
>out there have it? is it any good???
>

I saw it up in Toronto yesterday. I didn't buy it because I had most of
the stuff on it. There was Next is the E and Ah-ah off of the Cool World
Sountrack, Go and Have You Seen My Baby off of the Instinct Dance Compilation
(Have You Seen ... was recorded on this under Voodoo Child) plus a few others.
If you don't have the above songs, I might recommend buying it.



Brian
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Barry Sanders)
Subject: Re: move me
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:04:26 GMT

goddard@cae.wisc.edu (Goddard Denis) writes:

>In article <1992Sep2.145724.5323@wam.umd.edu> cyberpun@wam.umd.edu (Digital Druid) writes:
>>
>>Does anyone know of anyway to produce pressure waves below 20HZ.  I think
>>if you could do that at a rave, it would be a cool effect...
>>
>>Gil "d1g1ta1 dru1d" cyberpun(k)

A guy I know who collects/rents large amounts of PA gear once told me about a 
sub-subwoofer he had seen at a trade show that used a variable-speed rotary
electric motor that drove a very large piston through a very long stroke in 
response to sub-audible and near-sub-audible signals at its inputs.  In other
words, it could REALLY move some air.  He said it was designed to be used in 
huge arena-sized venues.  I guess it was pretty impressive.  Don't remember the
name of the company.  I also heard of a full-range plasma speaker that was about
the size of a small refrigerator that could reproduce audio perfectly down to
0hz!!  That's right: the demo included hooking up a DC source to the speaker, 
during which time the speaker worked as an essentially-massless FAN!!!  
Unfortunately, such speakers are so high-maintenance, heavy and esoteric that
only prototypes were ever actually produced :-(  (They required a tank of helium
and a HUGE hi-voltage power supply that "practically required its own power
substation to run the damn things.")  
I *LOVE* SUBSONICS.  Caution:  It is my understanding that certain sub-sonic 
frequencies can actually cause significant damage to humans.  I understand that
the Army actually created a device that produced such frequencies as a weapon.
Has anyone heard of such a thing?  (Okay, we could move this to alt.weapons...)

Barry  (XLR8)  Sanders
bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: hooker@aristotle.ils.mwu.edu ( BOB HOOKER)
Subject: Chiocago Rave Scene
Organization: ILS
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:07:02 GMT

Anyone know Raves coming up in
Chicago?
From: schnizer@kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Schnizer Ansgar)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Mike Oldfield got back
Date: 12 Sep 92 05:55:14 GMT
Organization: Research Institute for Mathematical Sciences, Kyoto, Japan.

Back in the late seventies I remember sitting under a table 
in a dark room. The room was full of other people sitting
on chairs, desks and on the floor. There was no light and
nobody was talking. We all were listening to a record with
a cow - if I remember correctly - on the cover, by some
musician who played apparently all instruments by himself,
called Mike Oldfield.
 I thought this is a rather strange thing going on here at first.
But then after ten minutes I started wondering if nobody else 
in the room is getting bored as well, but than again I didn't dare to ask.
This whole thing was going on for at least one and a half hours
and when I finally got out of that room I had decided never to 
listen again to that kind of music for the rest of my whole
life. It shouldn't have such a boring experience ever again, except
maybe when I went years later to a Zen temple to check out if
the rumors are true that the monks beat the people who come for
a meditation with a big stick (the monk spared us that time, but
I got scared enough seeing him moving around in front of us holding
a big stick above his head).

 After enjoying the House/Rave/Techno Dance scene for the last
few years and overcoming my first reluctance towards Tekkno 
- it sounded hell close to New Wave like the German DAF from
lets say 12 years ago at first - I stumbled over an article 
posted on this net maybe last week telling us that Mike Oldfield
is working together with the Orb (or was it Orbital?). 

 I was baffeld, feeling sick at first I couldn't believe what's
going on here. What the helium were the last twenty years good for
if someone like Mike Oldfield can come back and mess up a music
style I used to like??? Or is it just that there is no progress,
never ever has any progress been, that music goes in cycles 
(as A Tribe Called Quest insists on their new CD) and nothing 
changes except the technology??? Are we all doomed to listen
to the same stuff we were listening to ten years ago, again in 
ten years??? (this really would hit me especionally hard after 
throwing away all my old records 2 months ago:-).

Cheers, Ansgar
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From: @oswego.Oswego.EDU (chris hallen)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: adrenaline '92 my first rave
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:40:22 GMT
Organization: SUNY OSWEGO

anyone else out there make it to this one at the concert hall in toronto if so let me and everyone else 
know what you thought. it was my first rave and i didn't know what to Xpect.  went with a friend who 
had been to several in the D.C. area this was not quite what she described but i still had an amazing night 
even though we didn't  X-out we were up all night dancing until 5:30 didn't hit the after party at another 
club (the factory) from 6to 12 but had a great time live with moby among others anyone with info on 
more raves in the toronto western N.Y area (buffalo though i doubt any thing this good could happen 
there) please post or soon I'll have an E-mail address to recieve direct info

put on my ravin' shoes
see you at the next one
Chris  
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: American rave is nothing like British rave...
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:19:21 GMT

wyller@gagme.chi.il.us (wyller) writes:

>rjr6@po.CWRU.Edu (Robert J. Reinhardt) writes:
>>
>>When I was in England this summer, I had the unique experience of
>>listening to REAL rave--master mixes of some of the greatest rave
>>sampling I've ever heard.  Nothing in America can compare to it!

>Well thats real interesting.  Perhaps you can share some details about how
>US raves and UK raves differ and what makes UK raves the greatest?

I saw an article in the San Francisco Chronicle/Exmainer sunday edition a
week or so ago about the UK rave scene - actually it was about the large roving
campsites and caravans of the pseudo-gypsy youth - they described them as
holding huge raves of up to 10,000 people. It sounds like something that grew
out of the Stonehenge festivals more so that the actual rave/mixing/party 
scene that we see in clubs here. But I suspect that their descibing it as just
a rave culture is perhaps not totally accurate. The scenario reminds me of an 
old Steve Hillage song "Electric Gypsy" which has lyrics that seem to describe
what the article was covering. 

 - malcolm@wrs.com  
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ccat@netcom.com (Chris Beaumont)
Subject: Re: History of Ambient (was Re: Mike Oldfield)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 05:37:54 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)


In my opinion the first ambient musician was Eric Satie,the French composer
of about the turn of the century.His "Gymnopeides" is one of the most moody
pieces of music ever written.Years ago I met Brian Eno and he told me that
Satie had been one of his main influences.Made me feel good because my father
was a composer...and Satie was one of his friends in Paris in the 20's.
(my father was 60 when I was born in 1958)
My father was also one of the fathers of industrial music,but that's a
different story......
 If any of you have seen "Henry and June" they use some of his pieces
in that movie.Never fails to raise a chill on the back of my neck.
This is the music that Picasso liked to play when he was painting, I hear

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Newsgroups: alt.rave
Date: Tue,  8 Sep 1992 23:17:19 -0400 
From: Richard John Lacoma <rl31+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re:  Raves... (in NY)


I saw your post in alt.raves and would like the info on it, also I'm in
the Pittsburgh area and know a few people here who would like to go,
maybe we could get a car pool going, picking up people on the way, if
any one is interested and is pretty much on the way there drop me a
line, and we'll see what we can do.

Rick La Coma