From: sl7w3@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: *Metal Flatuation and hardons.*
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:01:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: cc.1992Apr8.160139.54302
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Apr8.042224.2814@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Kevin.J.Feury@dartmouth.edu (Kevin J. Feury) writes:
> In article <1992Apr6.225155.54260@cc.usu.edu>
> sl7w3@cc.usu.edu writes:
> 
>   
>>      MOP is just a step back from RTL and ids just straight forward 
>> nothingness huh??...Orion could be much more complex...what the hell do you
>> want?...do you want them to twist all their chord progressions so they're
>> intertwined and go nowhere...is that complexity???
> 
> i think you're confused about what i wrote. i love both RTL and MOP.
> and 'orion' is one of my favorite metallica songs. i wouldn't change it
> for anything. but your last comment is quite interesting, as that's the
> exact reason the new album is so drastically different from AJFA. 
>


     Yes, from AJFA but not from RTL or KEA, AJFA was very complex, much
different from their earlier stuff...but if they wanted to GO BACK to
more simplistic, then why didn't they just simplify instead of destroy?
They didn't need to quit playing the guitar in order to simpify.

 
>>      I don't know which Metallica you're listening to, but what Metallica
>> I've heard has never been all that complex.  To me, Metallica has always 
>> taken one riff, and writing full length songs based on that one riff...
>> everything they've ever written has been straight forward and simple...
> 
> not true at all. how could you say that about metallica, especially 
> with AJFA. it's more complex than anything else they've done. many riff
> changes, many chord progressions, etc...the list goes on and on. the
> songs on KEA are primarily one riff songs, but even on RTL, they're
> mostly two to four riffs, ('fight fire with fire' excluded), and on MOP
> ('battery' and 'damage, inc' excluded), they're even better, with a lot
> of inversion.
>

     Metallica has never been 'Straight forward and simple'...I didn't
mean for that comment to sound so blunt...but what I meant is that with
the exception of AJFA, Metallica has never made their music any more complex
than need be, in fact, (you play the guitar) all their early stuff is very
easy to pick up when playing, that's why everybody loves to play Metallica - 
because it's so easy to pick up and play.  But with their new album, they
went back to a simpler format, but took out all the riffs that made them
Metallica, there's nothing to play on the new album...it's boring.

 
>> that;s what made Metallica Metallica, they haven't changed that with 
>> thier new album, they've just butchered their ablility to do it anymore.
>> The new stuff is in no way complex, just boring.
> 
> you're very right. the new stuff is very simple, most of it anyway.
> that's what the band tried to do. they were tired (see the opning
> paragraph) of endless changes and progressions that led them into 8 and
> 9 minute songs. so they went back to writing simple stuff. i have no
> problem with it. none at all. sure it could use a dose of speed, but in
> concert they rectify that a bit on most of the songs...
>

     Well, I would kind of disagree being that RTL songs were all about the
same length as 'Metallica'...if they wanted to cut down lengths of songs, 
why didn't they write 4 minute songs like 'Trapped Under Ice'?????

 
> -kev.
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