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From: jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Launch Ramps Board or Blades; you make the call...-)
Date: 26 Jul 92 19:01:29 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Has anyone else launched much with rollerblades?  I used to skate alot
but got some blades last year and since have been riding them to class
etc.  Anyway I took out my old launch the other day (a ant colony had
taken up living inside) and jumped for a while.  Talk aobut your easy
air.  I was getting 6 7 feet of air with no effort.  It was too easy.
Has anyone else noticed this?  Maybe I'll do my street skating on
blades from now on especially considering the price of equiping for
skating... 
-- 
jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
James Miller

_chicchai .sig no ho ha ichiban iin janai ka_
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Product and Companies
From: william@otago.ac.nz
Date: 23 Jul 92 13:39:36 +1300
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

What do people think about some of the new decks out there?

I've had a Santa Cruz Dressen Racing Model. It was pretty tough, but heavy.
The WI family of decks seem to be very light, good flat shape but chip and
delam pretty quickly.

What do you think about the shape, weight and durability of todays decks?
The companies I am especially interested in are REAL, SHINE, MILK, THINK 
and ACME, as I've never seen or had any boards by these companies. 

Does anyone know if they are decks that are made by a parent company.
Like WI makes 101 and Blind.

I'd be interested in knowing of general company and product groupings as well. 
Like Santa Cruz makes Independent trucks, Sims and SMA decks.

Thanks.

William
From: mlj@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Michael Ledet Jr)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: 101 vid
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:41:01 GMT
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS, New Orleans, LA

No, I haven't seen the 101 yet.  Have you seen it?  Chris Branaugh,  how old 
is he now?  He's a nut, he's a nut? haha.  Have you seen the Blind promo?  
Henry Sanchez is very good in it, Lotti does frontside bluntslide to 
kickflip to fakie, Guy noseslides a long 13 step handrail, etc.  It is 
mainly just Henry S. and Tim Gavin.  If you have seen the 101, tell me 
something about it.  Thanks.  
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: byron@athena.mit.edu (Jack Miller)
Subject: Re: Product and Companies
Organization: SKaters At Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:52:27 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.133937.3154@otago.ac.nz> william@otago.ac.nz writes:
>What do people think about some of the new decks out there?
>
	Well uh gee I love my Matt Hensley Tribute model but it's
CRACKEd and will go any day now.  It's only been five weeks (not long
for me) but it's the best deck for SKATING that I've had.  Hey,
yesterday I learned ollie shove-its (varials) and just ten minutes
later almost landed a varial kickflip.  Considering I've been trying
varials for over a year now, that was a major breakthrough.  I think
having a really round tail helped.

>Does anyone know if they are decks that are made by a parent company.
>Like WI makes 101 and Blind.

	I think they also make Plan B, right?  Does anyone know for
sure whether this is the case, and if Rocco owns Plan B?  I have heard
that he does and does not.  Anyone know the real scoop?

>
>I'd be interested in knowing of general company and product groupings as well.
>Like Santa Cruz makes Independent trucks, Sims and SMA decks.
>
	Sims just went under, so forget that.  But I don't really know
about any others...  H-street used to make LIFE, but is LIFE even
still around?

			--Halloween Jack, whose insurance company is trying to
					  screw him out of $1000
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: dfx@nuchat.sccsi.com (dFx International Digest)
Subject: Re: WI Vid
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 01:09:43 GMT

In article <JggqoB1w164w@mintir.new-orleans.la.us> mlj@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Michael Ledet Jr) writes:
>  Have any of you seen the World Industries video?  Just watched it yester-
>day and there is some really good skating in it.  Jovantae Turner is so ssm-
>ooth.  The BLIND promo is out also.  Is there any way to get a list of  peo-
>ple on this newsgroup?


 I got "Love Child" way back.. like 3 weeks or so ago and wrote a little 
 write up on it that has since been collecting dust in my directory. Guess
 you don't need it now. Hell.. Maybe I'll throw it up later on.

 Jonavtae is definitely the raddest in that video. Chris Branaugh basically
 sucked hard. Shiloh's backside 360 - handrail combo was pretty 
 cool too. Dae Won Song is his same old ruling self.

 101 video too..  seen it yet? 

 Powell contest.. Acme video.. new Blockhead.

 More later
From: byron@athena.mit.edu (Jack Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: Launch Ramps Board or Blades; you make the call...-)
Date: 28 Jul 92 02:27:22 GMT
Organization: SKaters At Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <SRACER.92Jul27002544@cecelia.media.mit.edu> sracer@cecelia.media.mit.edu (Andy Hong (Go Speed Racer!)) writes:
>In article <1992Jul26.190130.41888@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>
>   Has anyone else noticed this?  Maybe I'll do my street skating on
>   blades from now on especially considering the price of equiping for
>   skating... 
>
>Maybe you'll do your posting to alt.skate from now on considering the
>price that bladers must pay for posting to alt.skate-board (after stealing
>alt.skate from us for chrisakes!)...
>
>We'll take them day-glo, color-coordinated kneepads of yours and...

	Hear hear

>
>Just kiddin'... but why not throw them blades away and get back on your
>board!

	There there

>Sheesh, it's been ages since I rode a launch ramp.  (I think I was
>significantly shorter then... so falls were much less painful.)  But then
>again, street skating these days doesn't require a launch ramp.  And
>landing an ollie varial on flat-land is hard enough as it is.
>
>--andy

	Andy, we HAVE a launch ramp.  Next time you have a lot of time
to kill we'll go bust it out of its dorm tool shop home (if it's still
there) and you can show me what it's FOR, fer chrissake...

	Have you tried a varial up a curb yet?  I'm getting plenty of
air on flat, but my brain keeps screwing me up when approaching a
curb.  By the way, I landed a varial kickflip.  Now to get them
wired...

			--Halloween Jack.
From: mlj@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Michael Ledet Jr)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: WI Vid
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:17:54 GMT
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS, New Orleans, LA


  Have any of you seen the World Industries video?  Just watched it yester-
day and there is some really good skating in it.  Jovantae Turner is so ssm-
ooth.  The BLIND promo is out also.  Is there any way to get a list of  peo-
ple on this newsgroup?
From: dansmith@Autodesk.COM (Daniel Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: small wheels YUCK where do I get big wheels?
Date: 26 Jul 92 00:40:06 GMT
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA

In <BrxID8.qs@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> irogers@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Mr. Ian Rogers) writes:
> He honestly replied "I walk."  Fuck that.  I'm not about to WALK to the
> skatepark, or the parking lot, so I can stand in one place and do a buch
> of flippy tricks on the nice smooth surface.  That's just not what it's
> all about to me.

	Hear hear!  What is it with these kids today?  We had manly-man
wheels that would actually get you somewhere faster than walking.  All
I had to worry about was getting a board that had routed wheel-wells
so that the wheels would clear.

	Next thing these kids will be putting sealed bearings in *clay*
wheels ("but they make more noise!").

OldTymers Ob Grind: Just another Jim Muir 11" x 30" Bulldog Dogtown
Skates, Tracker Ex-tracks, Lime-green Gyro dinosaur that used to hit
full extension laybacks [%] in pools, a long long time ago, couldn't
do it now.  Haven't seen a good 540 degree slide in a while either.

				Daniel

[%] approach top of pool frontside, plant trailing hand behind you and
pivot on it while legs and board are 2'-3' above your head on vertical,
you'll be damn close to upside-down, so concentate on lapping the board
up and *almost* over the coping, and somehow bring it down back under you
before your body starts sliding backwards towards the drain.  Don't
let friends stand at the top looking down while you are trying to
learn this, as this move frequently causes boards to take flight.
An almost carving angle will work better than a frontside air one.
-- 
            dansmith@autodesk.com            dansmith@well.sf.ca.us
        Daniel Smith, Autodesk, Sausalito, California, (415) 332-2344 x 2580
              Disclaimer: written by a highly caffeinated mammal
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From: mlj@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Michael Ledet Jr)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Wheels
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 01:21:38 CDT
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS, New Orleans, LA

  Wheels have been getting smaller in both height and width.  The average 
size now days is about 44 height, don't know the width.   Wheels are harder 
now also.  Anyways, if you like the larger wheels then you found a good deal 
.  Skating since 76, wow!  I was six.  I started skating in 86 ten years 
later.
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: irogers@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Mr. Ian Rogers)
Subject: Re: small wheels YUCK where do I get big wheels?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 05:10:20 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.025005.23943@uc.msc.edu> eab@msc.edu (Edward Bertsch) writes:
>I went to a skateboard shop the other day (actually a bike shop with
>about 5% of the store devoted to skateboards) and all they had for
>wheels was these little breath mint sized things.
>
>Anyone have any brand new wheels for sale, like Kryptonics,
>Bones IIIs, or something similar?  I want BIG wheels, maybe
>70 mm (I don't really remember how they are sized anymore)
>but my bones IIIs (which are about 10 years old) are badly
>coned and I need new treads....
>
>Anyone got anything for sale or know where I can get it?


Ask a friend.  This friend of mine went into his basement and dug up
some old Bullet 66s for me.  What a guy.

I think you can still order BIG wheels.  Maybe even for cheap.

Small Wheels Suck.  

THe other day I asked a REAL skater what he did when he comes to a road
like this (and I pointed at the truly bumpy road we were walking on).
He honestly replied "I walk."  Fuck that.  I'm not about to WALK to the
skatepark, or the parking lot, so I can stand in one place and do a buch
of flippy tricks on the nice smooth surface.  That's just not what it's
all about to me.

ian
-- 

Ian Rogers
irogers@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
From: jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Wanted: old deck as long as it's not a variflex...
Date: 26 Jul 92 18:57:41 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Anyone got a older street board they want to sell cheap?  (I don't
have a preference on trucks Indy's trackers' whatever's fine but I
don't like wheels softer than say 85's or so.)  Oh BTW if you're
thinking variflex well I'm not interested, I still have my blades and
an old skull skates deck.
-- 
jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
James Miller

_chicchai .sig no ho ha ichiban iin janai ka_
From: sracer@cecelia.media.mit.edu (Andy Hong (Go Speed Racer!))
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: Launch Ramps Board or Blades; you make the call...-)
Date: 27 Jul 92 05:25:44 GMT
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory Music Group

In article <1992Jul26.190130.41888@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:

   Has anyone else noticed this?  Maybe I'll do my street skating on
   blades from now on especially considering the price of equiping for
   skating... 
   -- 
   jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
   James Miller

Maybe you'll do your posting to alt.skate from now on considering the
price that bladers must pay for posting to alt.skate-board (after stealing
alt.skate from us for chrisakes!)...

We'll take them day-glo, color-coordinated kneepads of yours and...

Just kiddin'... but why not throw them blades away and get back on your
board!

Sheesh, it's been ages since I rode a launch ramp.  (I think I was
significantly shorter then... so falls were much less painful.)  But then
again, street skating these days doesn't require a launch ramp.  And
landing an ollie varial on flat-land is hard enough as it is.

--andy
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: prock@lobster.micro.umn.edu (Andrew Prock)
Subject: Re: 101 vid
Organization: University of Minnesota CIS
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 20:21:25 GMT

In article <37BsoB1w164w@mintir.new-orleans.la.us> mlj@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Michael Ledet Jr) writes:
>No, I haven't seen the 101 yet.  Have you seen it?  Chris Branaugh,  how old 
>is he now?  He's a nut, he's a nut? haha.  Have you seen the Blind promo?  
>Henry Sanchez is very good in it, Lotti does frontside bluntslide to 
>kickflip to fakie, Guy noseslides a long 13 step handrail, etc.  It is 
>mainly just Henry S. and Tim Gavin.  If you have seen the 101, tell me 
>something about it.  Thanks.  

Hey what is the deal with Brian Lotti nowadays?
Is he still on Planet Earth or....

I've heard rumors that he might be trying to move to another company or
maybe start one of his own.

I've been out of Cali for two months now and I really don't have any 
contacts here in Minneapolis that can clue me in.
Does anyone on the net have this kind of info?

Also I'm just wondering how many people here are in regular contact with
any of the pros.  Do y'all skate together or is this group mostly 
eastern in content.

Andrew Prock
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.artcom
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:13:18 -0400 
From: "Robert H. P. Dunn" <rd1s+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: FTP art to SIGGRAPH - democratic forum

 Call for art, SIGGRAPH Chicago '92 Today!!
 FTP art imagery to SIGGRAPH art show.
 Procedures:
 FTP artshow.siggraph.org
 login: anonymous
 cd pub
 mkdir "author"
 put

 Send work soon - it will be
 color printed and exhibited.
 Add extension that gives file format.
 See you!
Newsgroups: alt.artcom
From: fjt@well.sf.ca.us (Frederick John Truck)
Subject: VR in Europe
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 23:11:29 GMT


I am interested in finding out who is doing what in terms of
virtual reality and art in Europe. If you are doing vr art, or
know of someone who is, please e-mail me.

fjt@well.sf.ca.us
From: oakes@jupiter.nmt.edu (David Oakes)
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
Subject: Re: Faith(Science)
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:04:47 GMT
Organization: University of North Texas
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Rick Jones(albert@bcm.tmc.edu) complains:
 ! 	I _Really_ that that would make Faith(Science) too unbalancing.

yes, that is the problem.
but as long as we stick with WEGs tendencies to make wimpy miracles
(no, not "Inferno") it will be ok.
i mean, Athiests get to add their faith ADDS to the difficulty
of EVERY miracle they witness.  and this isnt unbalancing?
(and why should Athiest A - spirit 2,faith 8 - be any better
 than Athiest B -spirit 9, faith 1 - when similar faith(gods) are equal?)
 
 ! And the converse should work then.  Does an edeinos who belives that
 ! Lanala does everything then get to interfere with an engineer fixing
 ! a flat tire with tools?  Or a doctor when using a scalpel?   

if the edinos had "Faith(tech doesnt work)" yes he could.
Lanala doesnt say that tech doesnt work, but it is "evil"

 ! If Joe Scientist gets to stop magic, then Joe Witch should be able to
 ! crash his computer in return.

why? Fr Bob cant cast a miracle to protect himself from atheism.
does Joe Witch belive tech cant function, or just prefer magic?

 ! 	Besides, it's starting to sound more and more like invoking
 ! reality storms on somebody.  IMHO, a Reality Storm is shouting out
 ! to the Everlaws that that guy over there shouldn't exist.  The E-Laws
 ! agree and the two involved try to smash each others reality to conform
 ! to their views.

yeah, i know this is way too much like reality storms,
but i am basing it off of the existing methods WEG has,
and trying to keep it in line with other Faith()s
 
again, the ability of the miracles will be determined by axiom level.
major change cannot occur below spirit 10, and total is spirit 33
(this helps explain, to me, how spirit 33 = home of the gods,
 and how the world might once have been flat, but now it isnt)

dave "oh well, looks like another bash fest" oakes
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From: "Terence A. Wynne" <taw8h@uva.pcmail.Virginia.EDU>
Subject: Re: Cyberpsychosis spell
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Hmm.  Have to check on it -- still, the illusion needn't last long, just
enough to start the ball rolling.
 
There is never time to do it right, but there is always time to do it
over. -- Murphy

Terence Wynne
taw8h@uva.pcmail.Virginia.EDU 

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From: bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris)
Subject: Re: A Sean Sort Of Question (WWII rifle - panzerbusche)
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> All the anti-tank rifles I've seen used a bipod, rather than having
> the weapon supported by the firer; this results in significantly less
> aim dispersion, bringing effective accuracy closer to the physical
> accuracy of the weapon. I didn't give it the bonus that
> tripod-mounting the weapon would give it, which would have pushed Long
> range out to about 3000m.

A 'bipod' is a more accurate description of the picture than a tripod.
It had only too legs.
From: WYNNE.C@fs.sciences.WLU.EDU (Colin J. Wynne)
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
Subject: Re: Multi-Actions
Date: 21 Jul 92 22:57:34 GMT
Organization: University of North Texas
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oakes@jupiter.nmt.edu (David Oakes) writes:

well, i am going to have to disagree with this one
"multiple actions" are truly seperate, and require new rounds or hastes
"multi-actions" are a single activity (10s) with mutiple effects
(like one giant rube goldberg)

consider this:
multiple rolls require multiple poss, and multiple disco checks.
where do you draw the line of similarity? att/def? att/intim? intim/test?
what are the limits on how many die rolls you COULD make in ten seconds?
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Here is our basic disagreement.  I do not, in my campaign, disallow
multiple actions in a round.  I consider the increasing OoM DN
penalty to be sufficient for preventing abuses of this practice.  Not
once have I had to tell a player who proposed a "multiple action"
"You've gotta be ****in' me!  You can't do that!"  Rather, I find
that the places these are most used are Aysle (High Fantasy) or Nile
(Pulp Melodrama), where they fir the genre nicely.  When my players
are in, say Orrorsh, they are too worried about accomplishing their
primary actions to assume the DN mod for a OoM.

So, my whole original question will I thus rephrase to:

"In a game that allows 'multiple actions' in a round, should those
actions which are separate from one another be decided by a single
role adjusting with the OoM penalty for each, or on separate rolls
applying the same penalties?"

I believe the latter to be more realistic.  Several people have
responded "realism forsaken for convenience of one die roll."

CJW

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From: WYNNE.C@fs.sciences.WLU.EDU (Colin J. Wynne)
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
Subject: Re: Nile Adven
Date: 31 Jul 92 01:00:49 GMT
Organization: University of North Texas
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>    Suspended in midair, Hannibal focused all the power available to
> him, forcing the assertion of his reality once and for all, and,
> with a mighty surge of blue and red sparkling energy, the maelstrom
> dissipated.  The helpless, transformed captain was caught in the
> throws of CyberPsychosis as his limp form hit the water.

Hey, Kansas Jim, how's this instead?

CJW

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Organization: Junior, Philosophy, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:58:33 -0400 
From: Andrew David Weiland <aw1s+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Victorians

Terence writes,
>The orginal Victorians might have had a different reality, but every
>Victorian now living (except for a few corrupted Occultist -- who
>obvioulsy gave up their original reality for the power Hekaton offered)
>was born within stalae bounds and is therefore of the reality of
Hekaton >-- which is that of the Guant Man.

No Stelae.  Gaea's axioms are the "natural" axioms of that cosm,
transformed not through invasion but through the beliefs of the people. 
The Gaunt Man and company spent a lot of energy to change them, but it
was worth it.  It's my belief that the Spirit axiom rose meteorically
when the cosm was first invaded, but dropped and stabilized after the
Gaunt Man corrupted the scripture.  The "Pillar of Salt" miracle is a
remnant of the first period; there may be others.

Stelae aren't tools of conquest.  They're tools of destruction.  A world
covered with Stelae is eventually destroyed, or at least those sections
that were conquered.  Darocha's cosm was consumed by Stelae, and I
suspect the Gaunt Man's original cosm was consumed as well.  The Gaunt
Man could have had Heketon consume Gaea, but he prefered to use it as a
home base and feeding grounds for his troops.  The Ravagon's cosm was
similarly spared.

A returning Victorian from the old days would face the same problem as
King Arthur; when she left, the rest of the world disappeared.  Does she
obey the Orrorshan axioms, and if not what is she connected to?
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