HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rone@aludra.usc.edu (Ron Echeverri)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: "Liberal" - A Misnomer
Followup-To: talk.politics.misc
Date: 26 Aug 1992 12:41:57 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <1992Aug25.115945.2018@wkuvx1.bitnet> barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>Let's face it - the term "liberal" is a misnoner.  Some of the 
>most intolerant people I've ever met are liberals (of course, I'm
>sure there are good-hearted, if misled ones, out there).  Anyone
>who has any convictions at all, anyone who stands up for what they
>believe in, is insulted, slandered, etc., etc., etc.

Like TVangelists, the KKK... poor souls...

>  Most liberals nowdays don't want the name liberal.

Only because the conservatives keep equalizing it to socialist.

>  I say we 
>call them what they are - hypocrites (only the ones who are).  I
>put them in the same category I do David Duke - they refuse to come
>out and say what they really believe, that morality is wrong, that 
>if you tell someone they're wrong you're intolerant and bigoted, 
>that if you have any sense of decency at all you're some kind of 
>neo-Nazi.

Enforcing YOUR morality on others is wrong.  Especially if that morality is
mostly based on some popular superstition (oops, religion).

>  They've got control over Congress and the media; God help us if
>they get the Presidency as well.

Maybe.  After all we saw what Reagan pulled off with a Republican Senate
for 6 years: deficits, and 'fake' jobs in the defense industry.

>  One more thing - Albert Gore.  The biggest "tax-and-spender" in
>Congress, a man who was raised with the silver spoon of the politic-
>ally connected in his mouth.  The only reason I'd vote for him would
>be to get him out of Tennessee.

And Dano is SO different in that respect.  Just replace Tennessee with Indiana.

What the hell IS this tax&spend GOP morons (note: not all GOPs are morons)
keep spewing?  Will someone please enlighten me?

>  That's my opinion - it ought to be yours.

As i said before, keep your bullshit fascism out of my anarchy.

>                                    A Tennessean

You make a poor job of representing your state.  May i suggest moving to Canada

>P.S. - I want to make two things crystal clear before I go.  First,
>all liberals (strangely enough, not like many vocal liberals do about
>conservatives).  Second, I hope everyone realizes my concluding line
>is purely facetious and not meant to offend; serious situations often 
>need occasional humor to relieve the pressure.

Ha!  Ha!
Get a sense of humor, pal.

>  Thanks for reading, whether you agree with me or not.  God gave you
>the ability to chose; use it with care and wisdom.

God also gave us intolerance, greed, and other assorted sins, not to mention
politicians and toxic waste.  Aren't you a little old to believe in Santa
Claus?

5150
and keep this crap out of alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: jsa5+@andrew.cmu.edu (Joshua M. Sabloff)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: I'm dragging out the old T-shirt
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:21:29 GMT
Organization: Information Networking Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.alt.fan.dan-quayle: 25-Aug-92 Re: I'm dragging out
the ol.. by Alden Hackmann@milton.u. 
> >Fergit Bill 'n' Opus... vote Calvin 'n' Hobbes!
> I would, but then I would have to admit that I was a Calvinist...

OK, how about Zonker for Prez.  He'll *admit* that he inhaled! :-)


-Josh Sabloff (jsa5@andrew.cmu.edu)
"Now go away before I taunt you a second time-a!"
From: sham@cs.arizona.edu (Shamim Zvonko Mohamed)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: More on Quayle vs. Abortion
Keywords: Quayles really pro-choice?
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:33:01 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona, CS Dept, Tucson

In yesterday's "Prime-Time Live" on ABC, Marilyn said something to the effect of
her daughter will "carry the pregnancy to term if she's able to (both physically
and mentally)". I don't recall a medical (or psychiatric) exemption in the
Republican platform. And then Dannoe, in reponse to the interviewer saying "But
it won't be her choice. It will be the government's choice, she won't have the
choice." said "Marilyn and I are pro-life. This means that we will encourage
women to not have abortions" but it will be the woman's choice.

So does Dane really not know what "ban" and "illegal" mean?

Other notable quotes:
[The Competitiveness Council has allowed companies to pollute, delayed aircraft
noise regulations, weakened regulations for handicap access. Are those your
values?]
"Our values are to create American Jobs."

-s
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From: elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: The Republicans are confusing me again...
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 11:20:21 CDT
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS, New Orleans, LA

snoopy@crchh426.BNR.CA (Antonio Tello) writes:

> |>> On the other hand, a convention which holds some suspense can actually
> |>> help the eventual nominee if it doesn't become fratricidal because it
> |>> will mean more people tuning in plus the opportunity for the winner to
> |>> look like a winner. Such was the case with Kennedy in 1960.
> |>>
> |>
> |>You're quite correct.  Unfortunately, '60 was pre-racial tension, and that
> |>attributes for the suspense without fratricide on the Deomocrat side.
>
> I believe that the statement that '60 was pre-racial tension is fairly
> incorrect. Did'nt Ike send in federal troops to ensure integration in
> Mississippi ?
>

You are correct, except that's only school integration.  It wasn't until '64
and '65 (the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts) that the Democrats started
taking blacks seriously in national politics.  Of course, they had to, since
blacks in the south suddenly became a political force when obstacles to their
registering to vote were beginning to disappear.  Of course, by the time racial
tension could make itself felt in the Democratic Party (the '68 convention) we
also had Vietnam to completely rip the party apart...




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Xref: sparky alt.fan.dan-quayle:3125 alt.politics.bush:3422
From: elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.bush
Subject: Re: stupid, blood sucking media
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 10:28:12 CDT
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS, New Orleans, LA

saurav@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Saurav Chatterjee) writes:

> elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) writes:
>
> >You're right, but 'Rubbers' Bush is indeed making it an issue.  GOP surrogat
> >are running around talking about Clinton's 'bimbo eruptions' and that he is
> >'skirt chaser.'  This makes the fact that Rubbers has cheated on Bar very
> >important.  Rubbers talks about how he is the candidate that can be trusted,
> >and that his party has God on their side.  Yet he has a record of lying, and
> >his 'family values' don't show much respect for fidelity in marriage.
>
> I just find it funny that they talk about family values when the
> Republican god, Ronald Reagan, had the most anti-family in the world.
> I think half his children wrote books denouncing Ron & Nancy. And
> wasn't Ronald Reagan divorced?
>
> Saurav

Yup, Reagan's marriage to Nancy is his second, and they probably rate for the
title of most dysfunctional family of all time.  However, Ron Headrest was
wound up and trotted out to talk about foreign policy and the fall of
communism.  Remember, anything was acceptable when defending the USA against
the Red Hordes.  'Family Values' are a clear indication that there's no bigger
boogeyman that the Radical Right can throw at the electorate.

Of course, Rubbers Bush is the patriarch of a model family.  They stick
together, even though he cheats on his wife, lies about his taxes, and has
white collar criminals for children.



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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: dward@scf.nmsu.edu (Dan Ward)
Subject: Alternative voting
Organization: New Mexico State University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 02:07:43 GMT

    I heard a quote that I like.  I'm not sure if it's correct.
    Clinton:  "He [Bush] can run for first lady if he wants to,
               but I'm NOT going to live with him."

     Also, I remember a science fiction story I ready years ago
     about some strange planet.  The president had total control
     over everything.  There weren't regular elections, but there 
     were voting booths stored around the country - and people 
     could go in to vote anytime they liked.  The President was
     like everyone else, except he had this really neat medalion
     he wore around his neck which was a symbol of his authority.

     If someone voted "yes", then he knew he was on the right
     track.  If anyone voted "no", the medalion would explode and
     blow his head off.    I think the person who voted no had to become
     president then.      DQ for president ?
From: elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Tucker's e-mail
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 17:26:55 CDT
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS, New Orleans, LA

scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn) writes:

>      In a recent post, an a.f.d-q'er identifying himself as "god" posted Tuck
> Quayle's college e-mail address. The only possible reason I could think of fo
> why this would be done would be to encourage a.f.d-q'ers to harrass the young
> Quayle with nasty messages.
>      I doubt that more than a few people reading this are infantile enough to
> stoop that low, but I still think it needs to be said that there is a rather
> thick line between lampooning a public figure and harrassing that figure. If
> you were to bombard Tucker Quayle with mail, you would on the wrong side of
> that line. You can think what you will of Dan and Marilyn Quayle, but their
> children should be left out of it.
>      I will now step off my soapbox -- continue as before.
>
>                     Steve (scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)

There's a line between lampooning a public figure and harassing his kids, for
sure.  Why would I (or anyone else on the net, for that matter) want to pick on
this poor kid?  Your point is well taken.

Besides, he could well be just as ashamed of his dad as the rest of us are...



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Xref: sparky alt.fan.dan-quayle:3327 alt.politics.bush:3925 alt.politics.clinton:3899
From: elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: "I can even forgive Bush for Dan Quayle, but not for this."
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 22:18:19 CDT
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS, New Orleans, LA

bsmart@bsmart.TTI.COM (Bob Smart) writes:

> In article <Z26DqB6w164w@mintir.new-orleans.la.us>,
> elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) writes:
> > Had he wanted to really show he cared for the people of FL and LA,
> > he would have shown up in Miami riding in a C-5A loaded with supplies rathe
> > than Air Force One.
>
> Said C-5A would then have been...Air Force One.  I'm reasonably certain
> that ANY aircraft (or maybe any military aircraft?) which happens to
> have the President aboard is called "Air Force One." As I understand it,
> it's not a specific airplane, it's more like a commercial airline's
> "flight number."
>

Technically correct...I should have said 'instead of the luxury custom Boeing
747 he's used to flying around in...'



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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: unrzc7@daphne.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (THOMAS LUBANSKI)
Subject: Dan's a Democrat (sorry, wrong key)
Organization: Rechenzentrum Erlangen
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 10:00:04 GMT


After watching this newsgroup for quite some time, I do have a really nasty 
suspicion. Dan can't possibly be a Republican, he has to be some kind of 
brilliantly planted Democrat spy, helping Clinton/Gore to win this year's 
election. I mean - if Dannyboy is a complete idiot, nobody would have 
elected him (or that man who chose him as his VP). You wouldn't have, 
wouldn't you? 
Danny is really clever, posing as an idiot and damaging the Republicans 
with the things he says. (But I still don't get it why they choose him to be 
George's Robin again - surely somebody must have noticed Danny's not helping 
the GOP)

Seriously, even though I'm a bit away from the US, the mere thought of Bush/
Quayl rerunning for the next four years makes my stomach turn. So please 
vote. VOTE!!!! And do it for Clinton/Gore. I really don't know these two 
guys, but there's no way that they are worse than Bush/Quayl.

A concerned German
Thomas

"What would Janna say about it?"


Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: ejohnso@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Eric Johnson)
Subject: Re: Dannikins MUST continue entertaining America
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:15:35 GMT

SPONSOR: 	BUSH BURGER WORLD
		You eat what we tell you to eat.
		We do the cooking.
		We do the cleaning.
		We do the ordering.
		Leave your mind and your wallet at home, cuz
			- We bill your grandchildren -

		Sufficient sexual innuendo in the name to bring all those
		repressed rightists out in droves. Sort of makes you wonder 
		what the prize in the kiddie meal is.

		
		
-- 
    Eric Johnson	         |  Commit random acts of kindness and
    ejohnso@ccu.umanitoba.ca 	 |         senseless beauty.
       The Johnsons are taking over.  - William Burroughs

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From: fred@sma2.rain.com (Fred Brooks)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: "I can even forgive Bush for Dan Quayle, but not for this."
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:22:33 GMT
Organization: Guns for Peace

In article <BtusHz.BsC@scd.hp.com> dianem@boi.hp.com (Diane Mathews) writes:
>>Wow!  It's all George Bush's fault!  It's so perfectly obvious!  Well, he
>>must be punished now.  YOUR A NAUGHT BOY! <Spanking motions a la John
>>Clesse>
>
>I certainly agree that we are unable to tell where the fault lies.  But
>in Bush's denial of blame, he simply replaced the word "Congress" with
>the words "governor of Florida."  He lost me on that one.
>
>I don't have the exact verbage.  He said something like,
>
>"Blame is not appropriate in a situation like this.  But the governor
>of Florida could have contacted me sooner."
>

Well place blame where it should be. The governor has to send a formal request
to the federal government to get them to send troops. When Bush was in
Florida monday he told Gov Chiles that the troops were standing by. Don't
you think if the demos could blame this on bush they would be all over the news.
That brain-dead Democrat Gov. screwed UP!!!

-- 
Defend your 2nd amendment rights. 
NRA ACLU VFW
Fred Brooks   			        Portland Oregon
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton
From: jacksonk@polaris.cs.rpi.edu (Keith Jackson)
Subject: Re: "I can even forgive Bush for Dan Quayle, but not for this."
Organization: Rectsotuin Peselectlyt Insraheni
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 23:08:46 GMT

In article <9208301418.AA16516@MIT.EDU> dks@MIT.EDU (dks) writes:

> ATLANTA, GEORGIA, U.S.A., 1992 AUG 28 (NB)
>  -- by Dana Blankenhorn

> First, I'd give a gold medal to Goldberg, Rather, and their TV colleagues
> for coverage of the disaster [...]

Yes, they do love all the attention it gets them.  Dan Rather seems to get
a certain gleam in his eye and looks about to start drooling when the blood
starts flowing.  Makes millions actually pay attention to him.  GAD.. what
an ego!

But really now, you can't be serious that the MEDIA should get the `gold
medal'!  What the hell do they do?  Stick cameras in the faces of despondent
people and TALK about what OTHER PEOPLE are doing.  Sure helps their
ratings, but it doesn't do a bit of good for the people there.
Also, note that this is written by someone in the media -- how subtle!

> The bronze medal goes to the thousands of volunteers [...]

Good thing you put them THIRD!  Sure the media and the telecom companies
are MUCH more important!  Give me a break!

> Finally, the US government. Bill Clinton may not want to make
> political hay out of this mess, but someone has to say it. The
> lack of coordination of volunteers, which should have been done
> by our government, has been shameful.  . . .  We
> have become experts at moving masses of people thousands of miles
> for killing other people . . .

> . . . emergency workers begging their
> government for supplies on television, while the government frets
> it hasn't gotten the proper paperwork, just turns my stomach. Our
> citizens have been thousands of points of light in this crisis.
> But our government, which could have coordinated that light, and
> which should have used all its might to relieve the suffering,
> has done too little.

> I can forgive George Bush a lot of things. Maybe the economy is
> bad all over the world. Maybe he's never made a mistake in
> foreign policy, and can't be blamed for extremism within his own
> party. I can even forgive Dan Quayle. But this I can't forgive.
> And this I won't forget in November.

> (Dana Blankenhorn/19920828)

Wow!  It's all George Bush's fault!  It's so perfectly obvious!  Well, he
must be punished now.  YOUR A NAUGHT BOY! <Spanking motions a la John
Clesse>

GET REAL!  You must be getting pretty desperate to have to attack Bush on
this issue (gee, I'm starting to sound like Willie).  Clinton himself is
getting desparate (only 6 pts up in the latest polls, within the margin of
error) to have to drag this into the race.  A natural disaster -- and it's
George Bush's fault.  Rubbish!
-- 
            ^  >
            O o                                                 \_O
           >=-=<        Keith Jackson == jacksonk@cs.rpi.edu      |O
             U                                                  _/ \_
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: pape@miller.cs.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Quayle/Bush Competency?
Originator: pape@miller.cs.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:42:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.114434.2017@wkuvx1.bitnet> barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>To all Bush and Quayle bashers--

[much inane drivel deleted]

What the hell is this? Two times in two days? I had been thinking how much I
missed some of the Quayle defenders around here but this is too much. 

Fred, we don't care how much you think of Danno. He's a moron. I don't want
him taking my order at McDonalds, much less being my VP. 

>
>  That's my opinion - it ought to be yours.
>
>                                       Fred
>

No Fred, It ought naught to be mine. I like to do my own thinking. I suggest
you try it some time instead of blindly swallowing everything the 
republofascists hand out.
 

Patrick Pape
pape@miller.cs.uwm.edu


Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: jberger@novell.com (John Berger)
Subject: Re: Quayle/Bush Competency?
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:21:24 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.182401.6733@u.washington.edu> sieferme@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Sieferman) writes:
>>
>>"How did you do on your test Ariel?"
>>
>>"I quayled it."
>>
>(other quayleism deleted)
>
>More submissions requested.

"The ratings on our new TV series have gone through the roof ever since we 
got qualyed!"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: unrzc7@daphne.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (THOMAS LUBANSKI)
Subject: Re: "I can even forgive Bush for Dan Quayle, but not for this."
Organization: Rechenzentrum Erlangen
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 07:33:36 GMT
Summary: Priorities

In article <hyhnc!h@lynx.unm.edu> jennyb@triton.unm.edu (Jenny Ballmann) writes:
>From: jennyb@triton.unm.edu (Jenny Ballmann)
>Subject: Re: "I can even forgive Bush for Dan Quayle, but not for this."
>Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 18:32:27 GMT
>Summary: Priorities

>When the hurricane was almost at Bermuda, and the Weather Channel
>announced it was a Category IV with expected top wind speeds ~150mph,
>I turned to my husband and said "Bush is a fool if he doesn't get the
>army down there now".  I'm no expert, but I expect my leaders to assess
>potential emergencies at least as competently as I.  His only possible
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
No you can't. First of all Bush IS a fool (there, I said it - now those 
Republo-Fascist will flame me). Secondly he is a politician. When was the 
last time you heard of a politician who actually does something before a 
disaster which he sees coming? But maybe Bush didn't see Andrew coming - 
he has so much to do with the election in November and all.

Thomas

"What would Janna say about it?"
From: mitch@lsil.com (Mitch Sako)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Bye Bye Dan
Date: 4 Sep 92 00:21:37 GMT
Reply-To: mitch@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Computing Systems

In article 18209@news.uiowa.edu, williams@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Kent Williams) writes:
>The election is Clinton's to lose.  The Bush campaign will finally
>find which button to push in the collective consciousness, and then
>if Clinton doesn't come up with the proper response, he'll be toast.

Don't you think he's done a fine job of counterpunching so far?
This prattle regarding his draft status and his uncle is not really
going to work, is it?
>
>Most americans seem to watch the election the way they bet on a boxing
>match, and vote for the guy they think is going to be left standing.
>Unfortunately that means we end up with a guy governing who's taken a
>few hard shots to the head.

Again, bush's people are jabbing and not connecting, while Clinton is
counterpunching quite effective.  While I doubt that Clinton will deliver
a knockout punch, he looks good in a decision.
>
>A lot of people will vote for Bush just because he's demonstrably a
>worst son of a bitch than Clinton.

Agreed with that.



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