HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kay@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Kay Dekker)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Appearances on and off the net (was Re: Why I read a.s.a.r)
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:09:52 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England

In article <1993Jan25.185224.17504@harlqn.co.uk> daveb@harlqn.co.uk (Dave Berry) writes:
>kay@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Kay Dekker) writes:
>>let's clarify - it's Alex and Dave's party, at which a number of soc.bi
>>readers will be present, *not* "a soc.bi party"),
>
>Well, I've advertised it as a soc.bi party, on soc.bi, and only a few
>non soc.bi folk will be there.  Sounds like a soc.bi party to me.  I
>suppose if you interpret "soc.bi party" to be a party organised by
>an officially constituted and representative events committee of the
>UK bisketeers, with appropriate consultation and authorisation at
>every stage of the planning, then it ain't one :-).  But that doesn't
>seem a useful concept to me.

Exactly quite - which was how it seemed to me to be being talked about,
as though there were such a thing, and that's why I wrote what I did.
Because it seemed to be getting to the point where people were
debating policy, and strategy, and that kind of stuff.  Sorry if it
sounded as though I was *plonk*ing, but.... <sigh>

And thanks for a spiffy few days chez you and Alex...


				Kay
-- 
the Crisco Kid: quiet, shy, mono, Armani-suited.  Not.  idx009@uk.ac.cov.cck
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: TXK025@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Eddie Chandler)
Subject: Blatant birthday information! :-)
Organization: Motorola
Date: 21 Jan 1993 07:14:17 CST

Sorry everyone, just couldn't resist spilling the beans
about my birthday tomorrow.
I will be the ripe old age of 25! :-(
<sob> I want to be 21 again!

Eddie
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: dms4s@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Sailor on the Seas of Fate)
Subject: Greetings from a friend
Originator: dms4s@helga13.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:58:03 GMT


      Good day folks. I find myself forced to expand my horizons lately, and
loving every minute of it.  I have a dear friend who has realized that she
is bisexual.  I have done my best to be supportive and caring during this 
emotional time for her, and in the process I have become fascinated with
the relationships that can develop between women.
     Thanks to my friend I have been made more aware of the concerns of
the LesBiGay community and also of my ignorance about these communties. So I'm
posting here to tell the world that I'm here and that I care. I'm 
interested in sharing e-mail with anyone interested in discussing anything. I
really want to become educated about the different lifestyles out there, I 
feel like I've been missing out on something because of my homophobic
upbringing.
    As my friend can attest, I'm also a fan of erotica.  I enjoyed reading the
recent post about Lile's first time making love to another woman. I have
written 2 (fictional) stories about such encounters, but they pale in comparison
to first-hand accounts.  I really would like to hear real-life stories from
bisexuals, recounting any kind of sexual experiences. I want to find out how
to improve the quality of my own writing, and eventually I'll post something 
here to be critiqued.

Thanks for taking time to read my little submission!

Dave
dms4s@virginia.edu
From: orc@sybase.com (Orc)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Talking about sex (was Re: Party Face, Net Face)
Date: 25 Jan 93 04:06:31 GMT
Reply-To: ss19@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Department of Ambiguity

In article <1993Jan24.145815.27594@infodev.cam.ac.uk> gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk writes about sex:
>
>Maybe I get intimidated by people talking about sex because the ones
>who talk the most often seem to use it as others use politics, or
>sport, or computers for that matter -- as a way of removing attention
>from themselves.

  Hmm.  It depends, I suppose.  When I do talk about sex, I seem to
go out of my way to make sure that it's obvious that I'm talking
about myself. I do have a wee tiny bit of exhibitionist in me, but
it's mainly because I believe that the only sexuality/behavior I
can talk about with any degree of competence is mine.

  It tends to draw attention (trust me on this ;-)
   

>I'm interested in the personal aspects of sexuality,
>just as I'm interested in the personal aspects of anything.  But as
>things stand I'm not particularly interested in hearing about the
>mechanics of it, or about the pattern of people's sexual behaviour,
>simply because I've essentially no experience in those directions.
>I'd much rather talk about who I'm attracted to or what makes me feel
>aroused, but those are precisely the things that seem to send some
>people running a mile.

   For some people, talking about mechanics and/or patterns is what
they're attracted to.  One of my lovers and I spend a considerable
amount of time in email plotting mechanics and gossiping about each
other's sexual behavior.

  (Not to say I don't talk about who I'm attracted to.  I do,
sometimes to excess, and I wonder how people put up with it.)


>As for trying to tell people I'm a virgin (aaarrrrggghhh! the V-word!)
>I sometimes get the impression that people would be happier hearing
>that I'm Jack the Ripper.  I'm not asking them to do a conversion
>job on me, just to accept the simple fact, but for some reason
>people find it difficult to deal with.  And yet I didn't *choose*
>to be a virgin, it just happens to be the default...

   Perhaps there's a certain amount of discomfort because those
people feel that they can't adequately describe their experiences
to someone who hasn't been sexual?  I know that during the
intervals when I was celibate, and, for that matter, before I
started becoming an e-slut, I would get rather uncomfortable
listening to people discuss their sexual experiences, et alii, and
it might work in reverse.

                 ____
   david parsons \bi/ orc@sybase.com
                  \/
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: sa121@cl.cam.ac.uk (S. Arrowsmith)
Subject: Re: question about the triangle
Reply-To: SA121@phx.cam.ac.uk
Organization: Glad to be Sad
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:15:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.211552.21106@dsg.cs.tcd.ie> cjmchale@dsg.cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale) writes:
> [ ... ]  There was no
>specific category for lesbians so they were given the same coloured
>triangle, black, as another group (I forget which group this was).
>
"Anti social women" or some such name -- basically, those who refused
to breed for the Aryan race, whether their reasons were political or
other.

--
\S
SA121@phx.cam.ac.uk | "Internet is so big, so powerful and pointless that for
        ___         |  some people it is a complete substitute for life."
        \X/         |     -- Andrew Brown, The Independent
From: panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Hello
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:45:50 GMT
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.

> 	Being a seasoned bisexual, and a member of the vax network, I thought
> it was time for me to get off my duff and do the whole bi
> network/demuffining/debutante thing.Hello! It's nice to meet/read you all.

Hello!  Welcome!  Hugs!

Namaste,
Elizabeth

P.S. Congratulations too!  (I'm in exclamation-mark mode.)
From: pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Crowley)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: How to have a good cry?
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:28:23 GMT
Reply-To: pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Crowley)
Organization: Edinburgh University

Quoting moragw@castle.ed.ac.uk (Alloy Serving Woman) in article <30837@castle.ed.ac.uk>:
>Mellow Mo
>
>(Where's my sig gone THIS time? OI! Paul Crowley, I need your skills.)

Which ones?  I have LOTS of skills... <grin>
  __                                  _____
\/ o\ Paul Crowley   pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk \\ //
/\__/ Trust me. I know what I'm doing. \X/
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: h431@quads.uchicago.edu (heather e blair)
Subject: Re: Gripe: soc.motss
Reply-To: h431@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:50:49 GMT

Actually after this thread, I started reading soc.motss again.  There were
two really good threads on how safe is oral sex, and another on race-based
fetishes.  Very thoughtful.  I may just learn how to do killfiles and 
kill threads with h*m*ph*b*s in them.

-- 

- Heather Blair       h431@midway.uchicago.edu
From: rohrer@fncrd6.fnal.gov (Keith Rohrer)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: ST:Deep Space Nine, possible bi?
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:46:06 GMT
Organization: Fermilab
NNTP-Posting-Host: fncrd6.fnal.gov

In article <1k4i4lINN6sj@umbc8.umbc.edu> ac999273@umbc.edu (ac999273) writes:
<stuff deleted>
>	She said that her species, as in the small being inside the host
>is mostly aesexual, but that she has to deal with the feelings of each host.
>	It is therefore possible (presumably) to put it into a straight
>male host, and have it attracted to women, and all other possible combinations.
>	I have thought that it would be fun for her to be bi.  Also, I assumed
>she would be open-minded, being that she has been in many hosts, probably of 
>both genders (definitely, actually), and probably of many orientations.

Remember that, through three different bodies (male, Riker, female), the
ambassador was still attracted to Bev.  Either that last body wasn't
straight, or the slug itself has its own preferences or lack thereof...
Of course, from a tale Sisko related to Bashir at lunch, this would
mean Dax should be able to deal with, if not actively prefer, women...

<more deletion>

	Keith
-- 
Disclaimer: None of Grinnell College, URA, Fermilab, and any other affiliated
persons or orginizations have licensed my ideas or opinions, and thus are
not entitled to any which may appear above.
From: sean_v1@verifone.com
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: LGBO Youth Organization - A question.
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:35:22 -1000
Organization: Confused Souls, Ltd.

I have a general question, that maybe all you folks out there can help me with. 
I'm working on a project for school, which involves setting up some type of
system, where 'teens' can get information/support for sexual problems/questions
they may have.  Overall the system would be used for any type of problem,
pregnency, STDs, etc..  But we also hope to have a large support area for LGBO
youths..   My question is this, does anyone out there, have contact
names/addresses/phone numbers for any agencies that are already established,
who I might be able to get more information about amount of traffic they
handle, types of questions, etc?? 


On a side note, we were thinking of establishing an anonymous BBS system, for
the students to access..  Where they wouldn't feel trapped under thier name,
and so they would be more open to discuss thier concerns, thoughts, or fears.. 
Any suggestions or comments would be greatly apprecatied..


Thanks a WHOLE bunch!!

Se'an Michael


Ps.  Excuse my .sig, I lost it in a freak file accident today.. =)
--
Se'an Michael Ventura
Sean_V1@VeriFone.com     Internet 
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: mhnatsis@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Martha Helen Natsis)
Subject: What does "muffin" (& demuffin!) mean?
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 01:01:15 GMT

A quick question...
What's a muffin?
and how does one get demuffined?

-still looking for a cute .sig

Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
Subject: Re: Talking about sex (was Re: Party Face, Net Face)
Reply-To: gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:05:13 GMT

In article <9301241241.AA16205@pizzabox.demon.co.uk> gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal) writes:
>:to someone who hasn't been sexual?  I know that during the
>:intervals when I was celibate, and, for that matter, before I
>:started becoming an e-slut, I would get rather uncomfortable
>:listening to people discuss their sexual experiences, et alii, and
>
>Your discomfort hasn't stopped you doing the same yourself here,
>at length, continuously, every day, for the last three months
>though, has it?

Oh dear, I hope my posting isn't going to start a torrent of
personal abuse.  Graham, could I ask you to take this to email
please?

--
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Computer Laboratory                | Fax: +44 (0)223 334678
New Museums Site, Pembroke Street  | JANET: Guy.Barry@uk.ac.cam.cl 
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Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: ni2274@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Just someone in need...)
Subject: Re: Do Bis gather by sex ?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 03:27:19 GMT

kkr42091@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (QUEEN ZENOBIA!) writes:

>Egads folx!

>Why does it seem to me that everyone is posting about sexism, about men
>being only with men, and women only being with women?

>If that is so then someone needs to come up with a new "term" for my group 
>of friends quickly.

>I hang around with whomever I want. Period.
>If some gay man in the group doesnt like the fact that i am ogling a woman,
>tough patooties, and the same to any hetero man that doesnt like it either.

>Same goes for anybody, I am bi and if I want, I will look at whatever turns
>my head. 

>When I go out I frequently hang around with gay men, bi men, bi women, lesbian
>women, hetero men, hetero women, cats, dogs, sheep.... 
>just kidding :)

>If you ever want to see one of the strangest mixes of people on earth,
>come to Perkins in Champaign some night after the bars close :)

>-kimberli           
BRAVO!! BRAVO!!! all the way Kimberli!!

=)


-- 

________________________________________________________________________________
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---------------------------------------------------------| R.I.P. |-------------
From: ahb0@aber.ac.uk (Anna He Baik)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: A hug request and a general growl at the world
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:34:57 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

[lots & lots deleted cos that 100s if not 1000s bit really gets to me!]
In article <C0x0C3.1K1@news.udel.edu> pash@bach.udel.edu (Pasua L'Gem Ellison) writes:
>	However, since this is my first time posting, I won't go on about
>        my state of anxiety. Rather, I'd like to say thank you to everyone.
>	Having recently been lurking in the shadows, reading all of your
>	postings, I have kind of become more sure about my own values/ideas/
>	identity as a bisexual female. (  OH MY GOD! did I say that I am a
>	bisexual female?! I've known that for some time, but seeing it in
>	 print is actually kind of (scary) interesting!) 
hehehe......awwwww - I know the feeling! i think i sat there for about a minute or
so thinking "ooooh" <point> "look what i just did" first time i told someone over the
net......:) (and then thinking "can i claim someone stole my keyboard from me?")
(eek, someone just walked in - cue lots of frantic mouse waving!!!! :)

>	Anyways, I guess I am one of the newest "muffin"'s on the net.
>	And I cannot even _begin_ to explain how nervous I am that I did
>	this wrong.  So if this even ever shows up, all forms of reassurance
>	are welcome! :)
>	
>	Bi for now,
>
>	Pasua
<grin> Seems like you did it right! <hugs pasua!>
swsus masif,
yon
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: kay@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Kay Dekker)
Subject: Re: what is sex (was Re: Daoism, Pooh, and Bisexuals)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:31:16 GMT

In article <C17ID0.An2@dcs.ed.ac.uk> pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Crowley) writes:
[on defining 'sex']
>Not really.  I've tried sometimes when I've been trying to draw a
>Langford Graph of people I know, but that's too tricky.  Supposing you
>tie someone up and beat them and then don't even let them bring
>themselves off, is that sex?
>
>Kay could probably answer this better than me, I know.

O this is tricky.  I'm probably the worst person in the world to attempt
to answer this.

It's sex to me when I think it is.  One time I might tie, beat, and
prevent you, and it'd be something I was doing that's nice for you,
just because it's nice for you; other times I'd enjoy it in a pure
intellectual power way; other times my jeans would get sticky.  Same
act, different affect.

Is masturbation sex?  Is watching the cute guy asleep on the train
opposite you sex?  Is getting a stiffie when the cat curls up in
your lap sex?  Is foreplay sex?  What the *heck* is foreplay; or,
rather, *when* is it?  When does a snuggle that segues to an orgasm
or three start being sex?  Is it fake sex if I fake an orgasm?

You wonder stuff like this and your brain melts.

		Between the motion and the act
		Falls the Shadow.

Sexistentialism?  Coito ergo sum?

			Kay (smiling sweetly)
-- 
the Crisco Kid: quiet, shy, mono, Armani-suited.  Not.  idx009@uk.ac.cov.cck
From: rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: soc.bi Frequently Answered Questions (FAQ)
Date: 25 Jan 1993 09:58:29 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <C16BEs.348@newcastle.ac.uk> J.W.Harley@newcastle.ac.uk (Jon Harley) writes:
	
->>14a.	Are threesomes really that good?
->>
->>	Several answers spring to mind:
->>
->>	o Try it and see.
->>
->>	o Actually, any biblical number should give good results. After
->>	  a threesome you should also try having sex in groups of 7 and
->>	  40. Note:  there is some dispute about whether it is biblical
->>	  numbers or the Fibonacci sequence which gives the best group
->>	  size for orgies.
->
->I'm a bit reluctant to encourage the myth that threesomes are a part of
->bisexuality in general... what do other people think?

*giggle* Umm, pardon me for taking this opportunity for sharing a lesson I
learned recently (as in, last night):

Bisexuality makes orgies (in this case a foursome) a _LOT_ simpler to work
out.  

I don't think it's a _part_ of bisexuality, as much as bisexuality is,
usually, a part of 3/+ grouping.  Granted, this foursome involved 2 men and
2 women, so theoretically we could have accomodated one or two being
straight, but it would have made things a bit more complicated (not to
mention not _nearly_ as much fun).

-roy
-- 
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anonymous mail: wi.5836@n7kbt.rain.com        androphile, gynophile, kerryphile
"What I used to think is me / is just a faded memory." -NIN
"No mayonnaise in Ireland"
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: st891487@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: Re: I'm coming!
Reply-To: st891487@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:37:46 GMT

In article <7434@m1.cs.man.ac.uk>, zzaascd@hpa.ee.man.ac.uk (Colin Dente) writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.153212.26647@dcs.warwick.ac.uk>, kay@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Kay Dekker) writes:
>|> 
   [stuff deleted]
>|> 
>|> 	"*The* Zaphod Beeblebrox?"
>|> 	"No, just *a* Zaphod Beeblebrox - haven't you heard
>|> 	 I come in six-packs?"
>
>Several people have suggested this.  I was actually thinking of a Fry and
>Laurie sketch from circa 1989 - it's all about poetry, and jolly funny.  The
>relevant lines are
>
>Hugh:    "... it's by T. P. Mitchell."
>Stephen: "What, *the* T. P. Mitchell?"
>Hugh:    "No, *a* T. P. Mitchell."
>
>Probably looses something in the translation.  Still, I *did* say it was
>obscure.
>
>Colin
>
 On my glorious return to Brandeis I've had several encounters of the form,
"Oh, are *you* the Ximena I've heard so much about?" The urge to reply,
"No, I'm the *other* one" is simply overwhelming.

  -X.
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: iwatters@cix.compulink.co.uk (Ian Watters)
Subject: Re: Mike's Sex Drive (was Re: grumble)  
Reply-To: iwatters@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:30:00 +0000

Orc quoting Muffy and boasting <grin>:
>>  (That assumes there's a male orgasm or two in there somewhere; anyone who
>>wants to brag about being male and being capable of going {and coming} all
>>night is pointed in the direction of alt.sex ;-)

>   Been there.  Seen that.  Done it.

Been there, seen that, can't do it anymore :-(  <grin>  (Though if anyone
wants to help me try...) <tries in vain to out e-flirt some people here>

A memory of my teenage years is coming home from exams in the morning and
just getting rid of the tension by having orgasm after orgasm after orgasm
through the afternoon.  Almost makes me tired thinking about it now!

  //\/\/  iwatters@cix.compulink.co.uk
          thirty-nothing until February

>>>MATRIX version  1.21e
From: kyraan@bach.udel.edu (Stephen Ch Litterst)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: What does "muffin" (& demuffin!) mean?
Date: 24 Jan 93 18:35:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.C1DFnt.BMI
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <1993Jan24.010115.1153@Princeton.EDU> mhnatsis@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Martha Helen Natsis) writes:
>A quick question...
>What's a muffin?
>and how does one get demuffined?
>
>-still looking for a cute .sig
>

Well dearie <*lurk* *stalk*>  a muffin is what you were until you posted.
<*stalk* *chase*>
And one gets demuffined by posting... (and when you ask we tend to get... ahem
... physical.
*pounce* *grab* *hug* *squeeeeeeeeze* *snuggle* *nuzzle* *nibble* *slurp*
*bite* *nibble* *grope* *squeeze*  ahhhhhh.

That answer your questions?

					Steve L.

-- 
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| kyraan@bach.udel.edu          |       More man than you'll ever be...   |
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From: dwells@lonestar.utsa.edu (Darren . Wells)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: gratuitous mumbling
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:18:24 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <C1H1u7.AFz@acsu.buffalo.edu>
 bvntyler@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Very [Bi]Sexual Professional Amateur Nudist!) writes:
>In article <C1E56C.DyE@news.udel.edu>,
 eowyn@ravel.udel.edu (Zoe Antonia Velonis) writes...
>>
>>You missed a great one, Darren....but if you're coming next weekend, we might
>>just be able to arrange *some*thing...a little impromptu affair....
>
>geee... got any room for a Muffin???? *grin*
>
>--Dave (ThinKing)

Dave, you big silly!  You're not a muffin anymore!  You just want more
hugs and cuddles and snuggles and things from anyone who missed your
demuffining post last weekend.  :)

We can settle that later.  *wink*

Darren
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