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From: reeves@rocky1 (Malcolm Reeves)
Subject: Re: PCNFS and local printing
Reply-To: reeves@rocky1
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 03:52:14 GMT

From article <8328@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au>, by george@ucs.adelaide.edu.au (George Travan):
> 
> I have installed pcnfs4.0 on our pc network linked to our SUN IPX.
> Remote printing to the Sparcprinter on the IPX works OK from the pc's,
> even within MS windows applications, such as MSword etc.
> My problem which I just noticed is that I can no longer print to a 
> pc's local printer when NFS is installed. Even as the default printer 
> though the control panel this doesnt work.
> 
> To print to the local printer I have to uninstall PCNFS
> It says in the manual that PCnfs 'doesnt interfere with the operation 
> of any printers attached to your PC'. But I cant see anything wrong
> with the way I access the local printer from mswindows.
> Anyone have any pointers??
> 
> /Geo

Don't have any answer but I have the same problem. Also I can't get a
shared printer on a PC to function with any degree of reliability. 
Apparently this was also a problem in PCNFS 3.5. Anyone know a fix ?

Malcolm

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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
From: veneman@philce.ce.philips.nl (Jaap Veneman)
Subject: Email product for PC-NFS and HP server??
Summary: Looking for PC-Email product for PC-NFS and HP server
Keywords: PC-Email, PC-NFS, HP server
Organization: Philips Consumer Electronics, Eindhoven
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:12:02 GMT

We have a small project to implement PC's connected to a HP server
used for file and printer sharing. Also Filetransfer and Telnet (login)
is required. A first choice was HP- Lanmanager, but we found it
lacks the filetransfer and login software. HP representatives
could not recommend products to which delivers this functionality,
in combination with also an Email product to exchange mail between PC's,
the server and a couple of other HP workstations on the LAN.
Any suggestion for products is welcome.

We now also considered PC-NFS on the PC's, which includes FTP and
Telnet. We consider Sun's Lifeline to implement Email on the PC's.
Does this work with HP servers? Any other suggestion for us to
implement Email on the PC. What is additionally required on the
HP server?

Thanks for any reaction, 

Jaap Veneman
Projectleader PC-LAN's
Philips - CE Automation
Building SK4, Eindhoven
The Netherlands
Tel +31 40 732129
email veneman@philce.ce.philips.nl 


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From: tgl@ssd.kodak.com
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc,comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: Sun <=> PC Transfer Rate
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:31:00 GMT
Followup-To: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Originator: tgl@jupiter

I would like to find a fast way to transfer large files from a Sun
to a 486 PC. Currently we're using Sun PC-NFS over Ethernet, but we're
not locked into that. Something like FTP, or writing our own custom
program using sockets, would be acceptable. The files are tens or
hundreds of megabytes. Transfers are mostly one-at-a time, on a dedicated
network (essentially no other network traffic). Any suggestions would be
appreciated.

Some specific questions:

    - How much difference does the PC Ethernet card make? Which board(s)
      give the best performance?

    - Is there another vendor of NFS for the PC which has a product with
      a better transfer rate?
 
    - Does Sun PC-NFS 4.0a give better performance than 3.0?

    - Currently we're using a SparcStation 2. Would a more powerful
      machine, or one with better I/O, give better performance? Or
      is there enough of a bottleneck on the PC end that it wouldn't
      make much difference?

Please e-mail any responses to tgl@ssd.kodak.com. Thanks in advance.

Tom Lathrop
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
From: dmacneil@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: PC-NFS4.0a and AccPac (Computer Associates)
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:33:03 GMT

I'm having problems getting an accounting program called
AccPac (Computer Associates Ltd.) to run properly with
PC-NFS 4.0a and a SunSparc2 server.

Is anybody else using this program with PC-NFS 4.0a?

My specific problem seems to be with file locking and
sharing. AccPac does not support PC-NFS directly so
I'm caught in a bit af a void.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Specifically with
directory protections on the SunSparc and the DOS setup on
the PC end.

Thanks.

-----------------------------------------------------------
David MacNeil
St.John's, Newfoundland, Canada
dmacneil@kean.ucs.mun.ca
From: geoff@tyger.Eng.Sun.COM (Geoff Arnold @ Sun BOS - R.H. coast near the top)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
Subject: Re: pcnfsd for Next?
Date: 27 Aug 1992 16:31:35 GMT
Organization: SunSelect
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tyger.east.sun.com

Whoops - I sent my last posting off too quickly. One more comment:

Quoth dgd@nantucket.West.Sun.COM (in <l9pvg8INN1od@west.west.sun.com>):
#Read your PCNFS 4.0 manual carefully since the V2 daemon expects to be started by
                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
#inetd 
 ^^^^^

Not so. The v2 daemon has to do a fair amount of work when started
(i.e. building the list of valid printers; processing the configuration
file), and to achieve a good response on the PC client you should *NOT*
run it from inetd.

Geoff
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
From: oldera@twg.com (Ed Alcoff -  Prod Mtg)
Subject: Re: PCNFS and symbolic links
Keywords: pcnfs symlinks
Organization: The Wollongong Group, Palo Alto, CA
Distribution: comp.protocols.nfs
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:09:04 GMT

(Geoff) correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that PC-NFS
can handle symbolic links, and if they are absolute, then
you use the "net join" program.

Cheers,

Ed Alcoff
From: geoff@tyger.Eng.Sun.COM (Geoff Arnold @ Sun BOS - R.H. coast near the top)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
Subject: Re: pcnfsd for Next?
Date: 27 Aug 1992 16:27:37 GMT
Organization: SunSelect
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tyger.east.sun.com

Quoth dgd@nantucket.West.Sun.COM (in <l9pvg8INN1od@west.west.sun.com>):
[instructions for porting pcnfsd v2 to NeXT - thanks, Dan - and then:]
#Read your PCNFS 4.0 manual carefully since the V2 daemon expects to be started by
#inetd and now needs a configuration file (/etc/pcnfsd.conf) to function properly.

Clarification: while there are various interesting features/options which
can only be configured through the pcnfsd.conf file, the daemon will
run without it.

Geoff
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From: tso@cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Dan Ts'o)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
Subject: PCNFS Lifeline ?
Date: 1 Sep 1992 06:04:08 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston,Tx


	Could someone please give me a semi-objective view/review of SUN's
PCNFS Lifeline -- why might I really want it, just how useful it is, how
Windows 3.x compatible it is, etc.
	Please email. Thanks.


				Cheers,
				Dan Ts'o		212-327-7671
				Dept. Neurobiology	dan@rna.rockefeller.edu
				Rockefeller Univ.	...s5!rna!dan
				1230 York Ave.		tso@rockvax.bitnet
				NY, NY 10021

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
From: (Michael Bruewer)mib@bio128.uni-bielefeld.de 
Subject: Re: pcnfsd for Next?
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 12:08:22 GMT
Reply-To: mib@bio128.uni-bielefeld.de 
Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld

In article <1684E9884.KDICKEY@cmsa.gmr.com> KDICKEY@cmsa.gmr.com writes:
> Hello,
> 
> Does anyone know of an implementation of pcnfsd for a Next machine?
> 
> Thanks,
> Keith A. Dickey          kdickey@cmsa.gmr.com
> Electronic Data Systems, Advanced Computing Center

It`s already there in /usr/etc/rpc.pcnfsd.
_________________________________________________________________
Michael Bruewer

e-mail: mib@bio128.uni-bielefeld.de
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs,comp.mail.elm,comp.sys.sun.admin
From: pfenning@risc3.mi.Uni-Koeln.DE (Joerg-Thomas Pfenning)
Subject: Re: Frequency of NFS lock problems w/ NFS mounted mail spool
Organization: Institute for Mathematics, University of Cologne, Germany
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 16:30:15 GMT

In article <92248.145904QQ11@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK>, QQ11@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK (Alan Thew) writes:
|> In article <vanepp.715392389@sfu.ca>, vanepp@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter Van Epp) says:
|> >
|> >without any problem. Again as memory serves, Elm is prepared to use the .lock
|> >file if asked to.
|> >

This will only help if you use a NFS-secure version of dot-locking.
We had a lot of Problems with the user agents mush, elm ..
running on diskless clients dot-locking the NFS-mounted mailboxes.
We now use procmail as our mail delivery mechanism and changed the
locking code in mush to use same the NFS-secure (dot-)locking mechanism.

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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
From: louis@fammed.wisc.edu (Wayne Louis Hoyenga)
Subject: Printing problems with PC-NFS 4.0?
Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, UW-Madison
Date:  2 Sep 92 12:05:03 GMT

Is anyone having the same problem that I am?  I find that I can print from
Windows with no problem, but I can only print text from DOS (via the 'net
print' command).  If I try to print graphics, the printer spews pages and
pages of little to nothing.  The file that shows up in the print spool
directory is not the same size as the file I tried to print (it is a lot
smaller).

I am printing to a laserjet.  I have it mounted so that no character
translation should be happening ('raw').  I am printing to a printer on a
machine that is running version 1 of the pcnfsd (I haven't managed to port
version 2 yet).  All of my PC-NFS 3.5 machines can print to the printer
fine, I only have problems with the PC-NFS 4.0 machine.  I encounter the
same problem when attempting to print graphics from some program OTHER than
Windows (in this case, AutoMap).

Can anyone out there help (via email, please)?
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
From: mcba@newt.phys.unsw.edu.au (Michael C. B. Ashley)
Subject: NFS errors; "killed on swap error"; "illegal instruction"
Keywords: NFS errors
Organization: University of New South Wales
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 01:55:51 GMT

Hi everyone,

Does anyone else have lots of read/write errors with NFS? I get several
per day. I suspect that the problem is that the server (DECstation
5000/200, ULTRIX 4.2A) is very heavily loaded (~50 users typically),
although I would have thought that this would have resulted in timeouts
(which I also see) rather than read/write errors. Any comments?

A related problem is that when a machine gets a corrupted version of
an executable image via NFS, it still trys to run it, and also puts it
safely away for future reference in its swap space. So that from then
on whenever you try and run the program it bombs out with messages like
"killed on swap error" and "illegal instruction". The only way that I
have found to fix this is to use "touch" to update the executable on
the server. Is there some way that Joe User can do this on the client
machine? Better still, is there some way to convince ULTRIX not to cache
binaries that it should know are corrupted? Even better, how can I
isolate the source of the NFS errors?

Yours as always, grateful for any help
Michael Ashley mcba@newt.phys.unsw.edu.au

P.S. I have heard that there may be some advantages in reducing the
     read/write buffer sizes for NFS from 8K down to 1K so that they
     fit in one ethernet packet. This would stop the need for packets
     to be fragmented, and may thereby reduce errors in an environment
     where the ethernet is very heavily used (ours is often up to 30%
     of max. capacity).
From: neeraj@metrix.UUCP (Neeraj Sangal)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
Subject: Re: Free NFS Response Time Measurement Software
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:21:31 GMT
Reply-To: neeraj@metrix.UUCP (Neeraj Sangal)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Metrix Network Systems Inc.

In article (Santa Wiryaman) writes:
> I have been using tcpdump and awk scripts to reduce the log file.  Tcpdump
> also uses NIT on Suns or packet filter on BSD UNIX and ULTRIX, I used the
> packet filter interface. What I found was insufficient using this tool was
> the 4 ms. clock resolution. On a midrange NFS server an operation such as
> getattr could easily be serviced at <1 ms.  So for accuracy, a microsecond
> clock resolution was needed.  What is the clock resolution of the SPARC
> workstations?

SPARC produces time stamps with a resolution of 1 micro-second. However, it
is my understanding that the real resolution is worse. In one place I have
seen it stated as 4 micro-second and in another instance I recall being
told that it is 10 micro-second.

NetMetrix NFS Monitor has produced a variety of load and average response
time measurements for about 3 years now. The Sun-3 and Sun-386i only have a
resolution of 20 msec. The earlier versions of the NetMetrix products ran
on those machines as well. What we used to advice users running on those
machines in our manual at that time was to ensure that average readings
should be over a large number of transactions. Average response time can
still be pretty accurate even with a coarse time interval. In fact given
a large enough number of measurements the average response time can be
calculated to arbitrary accuracy!

I think, when we did actual measurements on a per NFS proc basis we got
pretty accurate numbers for a specific NFS proc even with only 100 data
points.

Note that in tcpdump as well as in our NetMetrix Protocol Analyzer,
individual packets are time stamped. On Sun-3 and Sun-386i this resolution
will be 20msec which can be severely limiting for measuring a specific
NFS transaction.

Neeraj Sangal
Metrix Network Systems, Inc.            1 Tara Blvd, Nashua, NH 03062
neeraj@metrix.com                       (603) 888-7000
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
Subject: PC-NFS 4.0a w/ NDIS & PKTD
From: hliao@zeus.calstatela.edu (Henry Liao)
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:09:49 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Cal State University, Los Angeles
Keywords: pcnfs 4.0a, ndis, pktd, drivers

A while back, someone mentioned that it's possible to run packet-based
applications, ie NCSA Telnet, on top of PC-NFS 4.0a w/ NDIS drivers using
some kind of NDIS<->PKTD driver.  Any idea.  

Thanks in advance.

-Henry Liao					o
California State University, Los Angeles	 )>
Networks & Distributed Systems Group	     ___./]___
VOICE:	(213) 343-4537, 343-4530	hliao@calstatela.edu
FAX:	(213) 343-4575			hliao@csula.bitnet
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From: jim@cs.strath.ac.uk (Jim Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
Subject: Re: NFS errors; "killed on swap error"; "illegal instruction"
Date: 4 Sep 92 11:03:07 GMT
	<1992Sep3.210948.28944@decuac.dec.com>
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.
In-reply-to: mjr@hussar.dco.dec.com's message of 3 Sep 92 21:09:48 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.210948.28944@decuac.dec.com> mjr@hussar.dco.dec.com (Marcus J. Ranum) writes:

   >Does anyone else have lots of read/write errors with NFS? I get several
   >per day. I suspect that the problem is that the server (DECstation
   >5000/200, ULTRIX 4.2A) is very heavily loaded (~50 users typically),
   >although I would have thought that this would have resulted in timeouts
   >(which I also see) rather than read/write errors. Any comments?

	   Do you have the filesystems mounted "soft"? If the server is
   heavily loaded and an NFS request times out it'll give a write error
   on "soft" mounts, rather than retrying. If that error happens to be
   a page of an executable that's being paged from the text image, you
   will get a "swap error" and it'll kill the process.

I understand that some NFS implementations have/had a nasty bug with
soft-mounted file systems. Instead of returning an error when a read
request timed out, the code would sometimes pretend that it got a
valid block of data - all zeros! This is very probably not what you
want to happen when paging in an executable over NFS....

		Jim
From: bostater@rsal.gatech.edu (Scott Bostater)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
Subject: Re: Modem sharing using PC/NFS and Sun
Date: 31 Aug 92 22:11:29 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Res. Inst., Radar Systems Applications Lab


In article <idmrmb.714338561@gsusgi1.gsu.edu>, idmrmb@gsusgi1.gsu.edu (Mark Buffington) writes:
> 
> We have a bunch of PC/DOS clients running PC/NFS connecting
> to our Sun. On the Sun is a modem which the workstations
> would like to be able to access. Is there some way to allow
> the PC's access to the modem in a 'transparent' way? By
> transparent I mean allowing them to run PC communcations 
> software that thinks the modem is local to the workstation.

What we do is run a program on the sun called pcomm.  It closely
resembles ProComm but it's actually running on the Sun instead of the
PC. Granted, this isn't as transparent as you were asking for, but it
does work and its not too inconvient.
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
From: hanke@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch (Norbert Hanke)
Subject: Re: PC-NFS & NIS
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 07:06:10 GMT

In response to my newspost, tomiii@mtu.edu (Thomas Dwyer III) writes (by mail):
>I was having the same problem when I upgraded to version 4.0,
>and the answer seems to be this: make sure you put RNMFILE.EXE
>on your bootdisk.  Even though you want to use NIS, PC-NFS tries
>to look at the local hosts file during the NET START RDR command.
>If it cannot find RNMFILE.EXE in the PATH or NFSPATH, it fails
>and prints the error message you describe.
>
>BTW, the local hosts file must exist, even if it is an empty file.
>
>
>Hope this helps,
>Tom.III
>tomiii@mtu.edu

This is exactly the solution to my problem: I didn't have RNMFILE.EXE
present, now it works, with an empty hosts file.

On quirk remains, however: trying to NET USE $NISSERVER:$HOME fails with
the message
  NFS057F : $HOME may only be used if the network information service is up.

Doing a NET NAME >NUL before NET USE makes also this problem disappear.

Thanks, Tom, for the help!

Norbert Hanke
ETH Zurich, Switzerland
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Monday, 31 Aug 1992 16:44:43 CET
From: <RHUNTER@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
Subject: Re: NIS across gateways
 <p6ete90@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com>

If you're using a Cisco router you can configure it to selectively forward
a very well defined set of broadcasts to another address. This is done by
the 'IP-Helper address' command, which will re-direct broadcasts coming from
a specified UDP port to another IP address (can be a broadcast on another
subnet)
I know it's not generally good policy to have broadcasts flying everywhere!

Ray Hunter Comms Engineer
ESOC.bitnet
From: sxn@eng.sun.com (Steve Nahm)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
Subject: Re: RPC
Date: 25 Aug 92 16:34:44 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: rand
Keywords: RPC

ksingh@passion.fia.dmg.ml.com (Kunal Singh) writes:

>Does anyone know of a C++ library of classes built on top of SUN/RPC ?
>I'm looking for any such toolkit for a SUN/Sparc 2 .

At the recent Usenix C++ conference, a paper was presented that describes a
system that adapted ONC RPC to the C++ iostream model.  The title was
"Integrating the Sun Microsystems XDR/RPC Protocols into the C++ Stream
Model", by Robert Minnear, et.  al.  of Purdue.  The basic idea is to overload
the << and >> operators for marshalling XDR data, and to use fairly simple
RPCclient and RPCserver classes for transferring the data.

There have been other attempts at this (Barry Warsaw <bwarsaw@cen.com> wrote
one).

--
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Sun RPC Project Lead
From: mizener@siemens.siemens.com (Jeff Mizener)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
Subject: want to use pc as nfs server...
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:31:41 GMT
Reply-To: jm@siemens.siemens.com (Jeff Mizener)
Organization: Siemens Corp. Res. Inc., Princeton, NJ

This has been answered more that a million times, but I missed them all...

We want to put a PC on our NFS network to use as a group-local server with 
access to CD-roms, fax cards (configured as a printer), dial-in-'bbs', etc.

Is this feasable?  The rest of us are running nfs 3.x and our servers
are Sparcs.  We would be willing to buy something but PD is always nice too.

I humbly await your suggestions.

Please mail to jm@siemens.siemens.com as my news access is sporadic:-(
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Jeff Mizener / Siemens Energy and Automation / Intelligent SwitchGear Systems
             / Raleigh, NC  919-365-2551     / jm@sead.siemens.com

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.nfs
From: meshreki@dip.ee.udel.edu (Samer Meshreki)
Subject: HELP: Boot ROM for SUN PC-NFS
Keywords: sun pcnfs boot rom smc ethernet
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:51:25 GMT

Hi.  I am looking for any information concerning Boot ROMs for use with
SMC's EtherCard PLUS Elite16 and SUN's PC-NFS.  We have approx. a dozen 
of these cards with which we'd like to use to make 86/286/386 diskless 
workstations.  Any help/pointers/solutions would be appreciated.

Sam
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