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From: quantum@mfci.UUCP (Quantum Audio Concepts)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: ProCussion or D4?
Date: 12 Apr 92 19:39:19 GMT
Reply-To: quantum@mfci.UUCP (Quantum Audio Concepts)
Distribution: world
Organization: Bell Atlantic Business Systems Service Branford, Ct.

In article <57267@cup.portal.com> Randomizer@cup.portal.com (Aron Fingers Nelson) writes:
>>And it is around $1000. For

You should be able to get a Procussion for 799 or less. In my mind it doesn't
make sense to compare the D4  & Procussion - the Procussion has much more
sonic potential.  You can have a sound that changes timbre at 4 
different velocity points, or based on a pedal position, or control wheel,
or note#, or ... . You can have 16 different kits on 16 different midi
channels, program change numbers are mapable. There are 2 extra stereo out
pairs that can also be used as effects submixs, the polyphonic allocation
has 8 or more settings (for example, you can assign a cymbal so that after
4 notes of polyphony it steals the LRU for the next - this can keep your
cymbal roll from getting muddy), there are 140 sampled sounds + 80 harmonic
and digital waveforms that are used to build sounds, called stacks, there are 
548 ROM stacks, the sample memory can be expanded by another 4 meg (who knows
if they will offer such an expansion) and on and on and on

The D4 sounds good, and does the job, but offers no room for growth.
(I use a Procussion, D4 and R8m)

>1/3 the price (got mine for $299) the D4 has something like 500 sounds
>that can be grouped into 16 drum kits,
>
>Mine has 21 drum kits 0..20.
>
>Aron


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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 09:52:43 -0400
From:         Tomer Avizur yacov <avizur@BRACHOT.JCT.AC.IL>
Subject:      PINK FLOYD
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
              Apr 6, 92 1:31 am

HELLO

IF SOMEONE WANT'S ALL THE PINK FLOYD LYRICS, MAIL ME AS SOON AS POSSIBLE

AND I WIIL SEND IT TO YOU .




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From: metlay@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu (metlay)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: !!! The WAVE Flyer !!!
Summary: Time for a bucketful of cold water, gang.
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:09:07 GMT
Organization: Atomic City

In article <1792.9204131316@orsun.dcs.leeds.ac.uk> ross-c@DCS.LEEDS.AC.UK (The Brown Bottle) writes:
>[Amazing details of The WAVE deleted]
>I know this comment has been made in this newsgroup several times before, but,
>How much is all this going to COST.

For a basic 16-voice machine with the regular 61-note keyboard, the current
estimate is about 10,000 Deutschmarks. That's around 3300 pounds for those
of you on the far side of the puddle, and a hair under 6000 bucks in the USA
(call it 6500 to 7000 in CanuxBux). 

It's evident to me that with this synth, Wolfgang Palm is trying to build
the new version of the PPG Wave, and bringing it in at about the same 
price point. A 76-note keyboard with 48 voices is going to be at least 
8000 smackeroos, and that's before any of the other hardware gets added
that they're talking about (whatever THAT turns out to be). My bet is 
that they'll sell very VERY few of them and DIE again.

The scary thing is, I can actually see myself buying one anyway..... |-\

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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 11:34:46 BST
From:         The Brown Bottle <ross-c@DCS.LEEDS.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Synth. comparisons
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU

>In article <1992Apr14.011839.21016@wam.umd.edu> dml@wam.umd.edu (Douglas M.
>Lindsey) writes:
>
>   I've seen
>   several different Roland synthesizers in local stores.  Virtually all of
>them
>   sound great (I'm a neophyte), and obviously the more expensive ones have
>   more features.  But it would be nice if there were some sort of guide which
>   said "here are the basic features of a DX7.  Now, a DX7 IIFD adds these
>   features ______".  Do such guides exist?
>
>

Yes, exactly this sort of guide exists. It was called Keyfax, by Julian
Roberts. Keyfax I is no longer available, but Sound-on-Sound is advertising
Keyfax II by the same author. The blurb mentions the DX7-II I think, but
it is not likely to be completely up to date.

email me and I can tell you (not too much) more about it.

Ross-c
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: ed@stauff.UUCP (Edward L. Stauff)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: what's a reasonable price for a used KB-100 (Peavy speaker/amp)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 08:13:09 EDT
Organization: Minstrelsy & Lutherie

Webster.henr801c@XEROX.COM writes:

> ... I've got a friend who wants to buy mine.  He offered $40, which sounds ki
> of ridiculous low.  But I don't even remember what they sell for new...

$40 *IS* ridiculously low.  I just paid $340 for a new one (my second!).


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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: 2805ak@gmuvax2.gmu.edu ( )
Subject: Re: Seq Plus Gold/Cakewalk
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 06:05:48 GMT


-> Since .MID files are a standard, it seems like the answer is
-> Gold to read and write .MID files.  Is there a configuration

SQPG *should* be able to handle SMF's.  I wouldn't know.  I'm a CWP
user.


-> already open?  Sometimes a rhythm part from an older piece s
-> for the song I'm currently working on but the 'Load' command
-> the current file.

You'll have to wait for the Windows version of CW.


Xref: sparky rec.music.synth:8058 rec.music.makers:5678 misc.forsale:14037
From: ar698@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Evan Makris)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers,misc.forsale
Subject: ROLAND TR-808 FOR SALE
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:48:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr15.164832.6235
Reply-To: ar698@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Evan Makris)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


FOR SALE: ROLAND TR-808 drum machine.
Very Good condition.
Everything works (including the pattern selection LEDs).
Nylon Dust Cover and Manual Included.

Asking $600


-- 

Evan Makris                         ar698@cleveland.freenet.edu
Boston, Mass.                    makris@northeastern.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: five@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (skinny puppy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Looking for Polyphony Magazine
Date: 7 Apr 92 09:29:08 GMT
Organization: system 6626 BBS, Winnipeg MB

I'm looking for every single issue of Polyphony magazine.  Is there 
anyone out there willing to sell?  (Whoops.  Not the 1st 3 issues).
 
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From: kholland@hydra.unm.edu (Kiernan Holland)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Seeking weird analog synth
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:13:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.4brj6!l
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <40629@shamash.cdc.com> ats@phoenix.udev.cdc.com (alex t stagg x4718) writes:
>In article <1992Apr8.100501.1425@hemlock.cray.com>, dpm@cray.com (Donald
>P. Maghrak) writes:
>|>In article <41050099@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> brooksp@hpcc01.corp.hp.com
>(Peter Brooks) writes:
>|>>[ ... ]
>|>>
>|>Didn't Pete Towensend (sp?) of the Who use a VCS 3 on the Who's Next album?
>|>He was also into those old analog sequencers.  I think he used an analog 
>|>sequencer with a VCS 3 on Won't Get Fooled Again and Baba O'Reilly, and 
>|>the VCS 3 on Bargain.  
>|>-feel free to correct info and spelling.
>
>I always thought that he used an ARP 2500 or 2600 for those.
>But all I can remember (hopefully somewhat accurately) is some
>picture of him with a 2500 (and it may have been in an ARP 
>newsletter).    
>
>Alex.
>
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I can't tell the difference between many of those analog synths 
but I have a picture in a very old magazine (like 74 or something)
laying up against some synthesizer in what looked like a suitcase. 
I oughta digitize the picture and put it on the nets. It is a classic
photo. 
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From: u894825@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Jon Elliott)
Subject: @$#@ing computer flame wars.
Summary: I'm sick of seeing this bullsh*t on r.m.s.
Keywords: Mac, IBM, go, away
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 05:49:11 GMT

Guys, guys!

Cut it out, please.  Even I got sucked into the spiral while defending my
trusty Mac Classic.

In reality, I don't give a toss about what computer is best as long as I'm
happy with what I've got.  The only things we need to see about computers
on this group is problems or new developments.  Can the crap, let's talk about
music - the relative merits of various computer platforms are essentially
irrelevant here.

Jon.
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 06:23:48 -0400
From:         Tomer Avizur yacov <avizur@BRACHOT.JCT.AC.IL>
Subject:      Re: ** RFD rec.music.enya **
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
              Mar 31, 92 5:47 pm

Please tell me how can connect my comp. to rec.music.beatles


waiting for answer...

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From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher)
Subject: Re: Stagnation (or stability - take your pick)
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 08:13:54 GMT

davet@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Dave Tutelman) writes:

>In article <1992Apr8.105149@twinpeaks.GSFC.NASA.gov> xrjdm@calvin.gsfc.nasa.gov  writes:
>> The Brown Bottle <ross-c@DCS.LEEDS.AC.UK> writes:
>>> ... Nothing inherently exciting either
>>> but I suppose not every synth has to be a groundbreaker.
>>
>>No, it doesn't have to be. Which is a sad comment on the industry. 
>>And the consumers as well, I guess.

>The word "stagnation" conveys a value judgment. The same objective situation
>viewed from a different subjective context could be called "stability".

It seems to me that the "groundbreaking" that typifies the previous decade of 
synth manufacturing was driven mainly by "technology" rather than interesting
design.  The best synth's avaliable today, were avaliable 10 years ago but
they cost $60,000.  Cheaper, RAM, ROM and faster DSP have all simply become
"cheaper".  They were always "there" but in labs and studios.  So all those
"amaazing" synths that appeared during the 80's were simply appearing, not
because someone thought of an "amazing" way to use the hardware, it was that
the "hardware" was becoming cheap (amazingly) and features previously found
in Fairlights and Synclaviers and other mega-expensive synths fell into 
the $2000 range.

So you were reacting to the general trend in the computer industry, cheap
powerful computers, which was exciting.  Think how you feel about computers
now too compared to the 1980-1988 period.  Pre 80's it was all thought of,
it was just waiting for the technology to get fast/cheap enough.  Now we
have realized the ideas, where do we gow now?  Like the PC world, we seem 
simply to be speeding things up more and adding more RAM/ROM and better 
storage media.

That's my thought's anyhow.
 
Scott.
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From: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Macs, MIDI, etc
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:42:25 GMT
Reply-To: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

In article <9204101315.AA19913@EDDIE.MIT.EDU> JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL writes:
>For some reason, I have a tendency of sending a lot of continuous controller
>information.  You would be amazed how quickly you can bog a single MIDI
>cable down...
>I now feel forced to keep my 386 machine in the studio loaded with Keller's
>program. What I am planning to do is to buy another MTP.  That 3rd MTP...

	Wait!!  WAIT!!  W-A-I-T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	SLOW DOWN!!!

	John, here's my advice on your situation, for what it's worth.
First of all, don't throw any more money at the problem yet!!!!!!  At least
until it is clear what the problem *is*.

	You've been using computers a long time, right?  Then you surely
know that it takes a little while to get used to a new machine --
particularly if you have rarely or never used that kind of new machine
before.  Hell, I just bought a new computer of the SAME BRAND I've been
using heavily and daily for the past 5+ years, and 2 weeks later it still
isn't set up completely to my liking.  And computers are my *profession*.

	From the time you proposed getting the Mac, to the time you actually
laid down your money, I think 4 days passed.  What's done is done, but that
seems like an awfully short amount of time to make such an important
decision.  Stop the rollercoaster ride.  If things aren't working completely
to your satisfaction yet, give them time!  If you buy a "power" system,
you've got to expect some burn-in time before it works as efficiently and
optimally as you want.

	Finally, I do not doubt that the setup is giving you problems.  But
rather than immediately blaming one part of the setup, take a step back and
try to see the matter objectively.  Imagine you have been hired as a
high-paid consultant to diagnose the problem. :-) There are thousands of
musicians using Macs right now in large studios.  Something is working for
them that isn't working yet for you.  Perhaps it will turn out to be
something simple that hasn't been thought of yet.

	I hope that was helpful in some way.

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From: obryan@gumby.cc.wmich.edu (Mark O'Bryan)
Subject: Re: SC-155
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 01:56:56 GMT
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Apr3.203557.9860@neocad.com> daveb@neocad.com (Dave Blevins) writes:
> > The SC 155 is the NEW Sound Canvas with sliders and REAL MT32 sound
> > (including sysex) built in (unlike the SC 55).

This is not true.  The *only* Canvas family member with full MT-32 compati-
bility is the CM-500.

> I find the MT32 sysex stuff hard to believe since the Sound Canvas stuff
> is sample playback and the MT32 uses the D50/M1 approach to building sounds.

You are correct, sir.

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Western Michigan University
Kalamazoo, MI  49008
From: SASTLH@vm.sas.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Ugly Synths
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:26:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: vm.92097.122657SASTLH
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.

The smell comes from the glue that Kurzweil uses to hold the vinyl sheet
to the top of the case.  This sheet has the descriptions of the sliders
and buttons printed on it.

Mine had this same smell for a few days after I bought it.  But, I
thought it was OK.  Kinda like a new car, you expect it to have that
'NEW' smell if you paid all that hard-earned money for it! :-)
My DX7 had the same type of smell when I bought it new about 6 years ago.

BTW, I think the Proteus keyboard is a lot uglier than the K2000.  But,
why waste bandwidth with this argument?  It's really the SOUND that made
you buy it, right?  I'm still amazed by the great sounds the K2000 has in it.
But the fact that it is so easy to add more sounds makes it that much better.
It will be interesting to hear the new ROMS that Kurz is planning to introduce
in a few months.  Plus, the Stratus Sounds (TM) are excellent!

Close your eyes, stop up your nose, and just LISTEN!    ... Tom
From: din@grad1.cis.upenn.edu (Clarence Din)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: List Price of Roland D-series?
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:48:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: netnews.73344
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Maybe this is trivia (sort of):

What were the list prices of the following keyboards?

D-50
D-70
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From: parkb@SunLab16.essex.ac.uk (Parker B J)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Midi Guitars, info wanted.
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:39:31 GMT
Reply-To: parkb@essex.ac.uk (Parker B J)
Organization: University of Essex, Colchester, UK


Hello World,
	    I would like some feedback from anyone who has had some experience 
  with midi guitars.  Comments on absolutely any aspects are welcome, but
  particularly performance/price related.  Also could someone tell me what the
  difference is between a midi and a synth guitar?

  The reason I'm asking this is because I'm currently designing a guitar-to-
  midi convertor, and need to know what sort of performance is expected.

   Many thanks

	     -- Boyd

                Email parkb@essex.ac.uk
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Subject: MIDI compatible accelerators for MacPlus
From: drath@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Andreas K. Drath)
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:13:56 EST

Followup-To:poster 
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 14:48:38 GMT

Hello.
	I'm posting for a friend of mine who wants to accelerate his
Plus.  He keeps hearing that almost any accelerator will work with
almost all programs except those that need MIDI. Is this true? Any
advice or experience to share? Now he's running Finale 2.61, Performer
2.6 and will be soon adding to the collection. Any info will be helpful.
I'll post a summary.  Thank you.

**********************************************************************
Andreas Drath
drath@ucunix.san.uc.edu
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From: hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: New KORG M1 patches
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:39:26 GMT
Organization: Department of Philosophy, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands

scream@ravel.udel.edu (Darren Amato) writes:

>Can anyone that has any PD patches for the M1 please post them to:


>		louie.udel.edu  pub/midi/patches/KORG/M1

>				or

>		ucsd.edu           midi/patches/M1

Are these FTP-able???? (yes yes yes yes yes.... (I hope))


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University of Utrecht - The Netherlands
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From: eab@cbnews.cb.att.com (eugene.a.beer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: K2000 owners in Europe?
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:12:31 GMT
Organization: AT&T

Are there any K2000 junkies in Europe?  I will be visiting Paris 4/15-4/19,
Brussels, 4/19-4/20, and London-Birmingham-Nottingham, 4/25-4/30.  I would
relish the opportunity to meet anyone and "share the K2000 experience."

			eugene beer eab@cblph.att.com
From: d88-jwa@hemul.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: MIDI rate (Was: Re: @ Whats The Best ATARI Sequence Package .. @)
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:14:57 GMT
	<1992Mar30.110943.10812@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
	<1992Mar31.231550.23657@uunet.uu.net>
	<1992Apr6.191317.12611@terminator.cc.umich.edu>
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Originator: d88-jwa@hemul.nada.kth.se

.cc.umich.edu> reb@home.merit.edu (R. Eric Bennett) writes:

   150 MBit/s is faster than the FDDI spec even allows for.  The internet 
   backbone is constructed from 45 MBit/sec links only.  You are hoping for
   some serious speed.  Hell, even ethernet is typically only 10 MBit/s.

Well, Ethernet isn't exactly the hottest thing around.
Commercial nets of 600 MBit/s speed aren't too unusual,
and 150 MBit is somewhat possible to make sort of
economical on a peer-to-peer optical fibre basis.

So if the manufacturers started playing with it NOW,
we'd have a decent standard at a decent price three
years from now.

Remember, the higher you aim...

-- 
h+@nada.kth.se; Jon W{tte, the Diplomat - NOT!
From: plate@cdsmn.mn.org (Doug Plate)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Long Delays
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:42:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: cdsmn.1992Apr16.214215.14085
Reply-To: plate@cdsmn.UUCP (Doug Plate)
Organization: Dicomed Inc, Burnsville, MN.





Is this long enough?









Sheesh!  I've been waiting two months to do that!  I better get a life.

Doug