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From: vaughnw@hadar.fai.com (Vaughn Wolffe)
Subject: Re: (B)art & (C)alTrain to stay
Originator: vaughnw@cotati
Organization: Fujitsu NTS
Distribution: ba.transportation
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:44:51 GMT





>From: lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich)
>Or they are not willing to commit to BART just yet. There were
>meetings on a feasibility of BART extensions into Milpitas and San
>Jose last month, which _does_ indicate some official interest.

>	BART stations built without big parking lots and/or garages
>would be relatively cheap, since land is the main cost of BART's
>extensions.                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


At the meetings they had handouts that indicated that the cost
of stations(including engineering, construction and property)
and ROW cost were less than 25% of the total costs. This is 
consistent with other BART projects. 

Repettition of unsubstantiated and incorrect statements 
combined with a with a refusal to accept or consult BART's
own data would seem to indicate an intended deception.


>	I recall from somewhere that BART is _less_ expensive per
>passenger than CalTrain is: total budget is perhaps 8 times bigger,

Frank Wilson makes similar ambiguous statements. BART's cost 
per passenger and subsidy per passenger are less than CalTrain's
because its passengers travel roughly half as far on average.
The inference that BART is more efficient or cost effective is
incorrect. Wilson admits it face to face but intentionally 
allows the inference in his public statements.




   Vaughn Wolffe        vaughnw@hadar.fai.com
From: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Newsgroups: ba.transportation
Subject: Re: Reflections on public transit
Date: 7 Nov 92 04:17:36 GMT
Reply-To: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Distribution: ba
Organization: Peirce Software
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <RANDOLPH.92Nov6140623@cognito.ebay.Sun.COM> (ba.transportation), randolph@cognito.ebay.Sun.COM (Randolph Fritz) writes:
> [The following was written for alt.planning.urban.  It occurs to me
> 
> In Silicon Valley, which is the area I know best, it would be
> reasonable to link the major malls and old downtowns with rail
> service.  I really think that the last place we're going to get people
> out of cars is in the regular morning commute.  Shopping, though,
> you've got a chance.  You might be able to sell most of the major
> property-owners along Stevens Creek Boulevard (a major Silicon Valley
> strip) on a rail line up Stevens Creek--the two big malls might even
> be persuaded to build their own stations.

Measure A included funds that will probably go toward light rail down
Stevens Creek from Downtown to Cupertino.  At least this was listed
in the grab bag of projects for Measure A.

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From: lora@askinc.ASK.COM (Lora Shirley)
Newsgroups: ba.windows.x
Subject: OSF/Motif Developer's Mtg:  November18
Keywords: OSF Motif X11
Date: 13 Nov 92 01:54:36 GMT
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Inc.


              OSF/Motif Developers Meeting: November 18

  Please join us at a jointly sponsored meeting of the OSF/Motif
  Developers and Drinking Society and the BayCHI OSF/Motif BOF.
  The meeting is at 7:00 PM on Wednesday, November 18

  This month, we revive the "drinking" part of the OSF/Motif
  Developers and *Drinking* Society. Research for a proper location
  for such an event has been conducted, resulting in the selection
  of:

   The Tied House
   954 Villa 
   Mountain View.  
  (Located close to the intersection of Central Expressway and Castro in MV.)

  "Developing" will also be addressed at the Tied House.  Bring your
  burning questions and issues about Motif, X, Unix, etc. for a lively
  round table discussion.
  
  See you there! 


  About the Santa Clara Valley OSF/Motif groups:
  *********************************************

  The Silicon Valley OSF/Motif Developers and Drinking Society and
  BayCHI's OSF/Motif BOF (Birds-of-a-Feather) group are two Bay
  area groups that hold monthly meetings to discuss Motif
  development issues.  The topics discussed include: releases and
  features of the Motif toolkit, X11, UI builders, and products
  developed using Motif.

  The meetings are open to the public.  There are no membership or
  admission fees.

  A joint planning committee schedules the meetings.  If you would like to
  discuss a topic of interest to this group, please contact Lora Shirley
  415-335-5288.


  Upcoming Meeting Dates:
  ********************************************

  December:   No meeting
  
  Wednesday, January 20, 1993   NCD,  339 N. Bernardo St.
Newsgroups: ba.housing,ba.market.misc,misc.forsale,ba.market.housing
From: wl@cypress.com (Wilbur Luo/COMM)
Subject: Roommate WANTED - Posh Cupertino Apt
Originator: wl@coast
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor
Distribution: ca
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:05:19 GMT

Roommate wanted to share a beautiful, spacious (1310 SQUARE FEET) 3
bed, 2 bath apartment in Cupertino (Glenbrook Apartments).  This is a
fantastic complex with plenty of amenities:

			% 7 pools
			% spas & saunas
			% fitness facilities
			% tennis courts (4)
			% pool tables
			% indoor driving range
			% practice putting green

AND MORE!!

The room runs $460/month  (rent includes everything but phone and PG& E).
It will be available on December 1. We are looking for someone willing
to make at least a 6 month commitment.

The complex is located at a convenient location off Highway 85/280.
It's also across the street from the Oaks (Shopping Center) and DeAnza
College.

Looking for a casual, non-smoking, male or female, 21-30.  Neither party
animals nor couch potatoes need call.

If interested, call Greg @ 408-446-4127 (H) or 408-733-2882 (W)
			or Wilbur @ 408-255-4764 (H) or 408-456-1924 (W)
					wl@cypress.com

--------


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From: bhatia@mti.sgi.com (Anil Bhatia)
Newsgroups: ba.housing,soc.culture.indian
Subject: ROOMMATE WANTED - Apt in Mtn.View
Date: 12 Nov 1992 18:26:59 GMT
Organization: MIPS Technologies Inc., SGI, Mountian View, CA
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: faulty.mti.sgi.com
Originator: bhatia@faulty.mti.sgi.com



Looking for a roommate to share a 3-bedroom apartment in a
nice apartment complex in Mountain View area. Includes
a car port, plus facilities such as pool, exercise room, etc.

Close to most major Silicon Valley employers. 
Located right off Hwy 85, with easy access to Central Expwy 
or Freeway 101.  
Rent is $367 per month + 1/3 utilities. 

Call Anil Bhatia at (415) 390-4579 (W) or (415) 988-1243 (H).
     or Nilesh Nabar at (415) 988-1243(H).


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Silicon Graphics, Inc.			Phone: 415 390 4579
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Silicon Graphics, Inc.			Phone: 415 390 4579
P.O.Box 7311, Mountain View, CA 94039-7311
From: solovay@netcom.com (Andrew M. Solovay)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: Madonna Sex survey
Date: 13 Nov 92 20:56:47 GMT
Organization: International Irony League -- Death before smileys!

In article <9211122002.AA03777@athena.cs.uga.edu> Beth Carr <carr@athena.cs.uga.edu> writes:
>
>Hey everyone, i'm doing an article on Lesbian Views on Madonna's Sex (the book).
>Anyone who's seen it, please tell me what you think (as in-depth as you have time for).
>Also, does anyone have ideas on how i can contact the following women:
>Pat Califia
>Susie Bright
>Catherine MacKinnon (if she's a woman-lover)
>Carol Gilligan (same stipulation)
>
>Plus, any suggestions for other "celebrity" lesbians to interview? (Bisexual ok too)?

Heavens, yes! Camille Paglia! What a dudette!

And consider Annie Sprinkle. I'm fairly sure she's bi.
-- 
Andrew Michael Solovay    

"We know that Solovay is a misogynist and an idiot..."
		--Melinda Shore
Newsgroups: ba.motss
From: chas@netcom.com (Chuck Fisher)
Subject: Garage Sale a Success!
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:04:11 GMT

The garage sale held on Friday and Saturday was quite a success as
nearly $2000 of items were sold!  Thanks to you folks who stopped by
and to browse (and even buy a few things.)

Cory Mecshberger, Rob's neighbor and close friend is selling her house
and planning on buying Rob's house.  There are contingencies on all
this, but hopefully by the end of this year everything will be
completed.

Chuck
-- 
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chas@netcom.com  IP address: 192.100.81.100   Home: (415) 964-2819
{apple,claris,amdahl,tandem}!netcom!chas
From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: Boxer's acceptance speech and Channel 2
Date: 6 Nov 1992 00:50:19 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

In article <13071@optilink.UUCP> walsh@optilink.UUCP (Mark Walsh) writes:

> I was disappointed that Feinstein got so much less time than
> Boxer because at the national level, she is still pretty much
> an unknown quantity, unlike Boxer.

Nonsense.  Barbara Boxer was a *complete* unknown in Southern
California until the primaries, whereas Feinstein has had 
nationwide name recognition for the last 10+ years.

Arne


Newsgroups: ba.motss
From: sweiss@gain.com (Scott D. Weiss)
Subject: Peninsula Lunch Tuesday 10 November
Reply-To: sweiss@gain.com (Scott D. Weiss)
Organization: Gain Technology, Palo Alto, CA.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:07:59 GMT

Date:  Tuesday, 10 November
Time:  12 noon
Place:  Hobees Palo Alto (Embarcadero Road at El Camino, in
        the Town & Country mall)

Since I can't find any of my pink triangle buttons (really!),
I'll wear a Bill Clinton button on my shirt.

If you're late, ask for the Motss party.  Six people have
confirmed that they'll be able to make it so far.

If you have questions, send me mail.

   Scott (sweiss@gain.com)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
From: foucault@netcom.com (Howard Arthur Faye)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY:Special restaurants
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 01:17:50 GMT

In article <lg7nt5INNrj4@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> jav@rhiannon.sitka.sun.com writes:
>In regards to Restaurants:  
>
>Bay Wolf on Piedmont Ave in Oakland -  I ate there earlier
>this year and if this restaurant is not totally homophobic...
>I didn't know what it was like to be discriminated against
>because I was gay until I ate there.  I wouldn't put a foot
>in that place again - plus it is way over priced.
>
>Joyce

Joyce, I'd like to know when this happened and what transpired
that you considered homophobic. I have been eating at Bay Wolf
for years and I know for a fact that if anything, the official
policy of the place has been very queer-friendly. There are
quite a few queer waitpeople and Bay Wolf participates in
programs with other bay area restaurants to raise money for
services for PWAs. They also serve the best squab outside
of certain asian restaurants in the City.

And overpriced? Compared to what? A complete meal at Bay Wolf
with say, a Rodney Strong cab, salads and entrees and a shared
creme caramel is under $100-- not bad when you compare Masa's
or the Portman Grill. 

I don't want to second guess your experience, but if something
untoward did occur, it was probably by a cloddish individual.
I'd call and talk to the powers that be at Bay Wolf.



-- 
Howard Arthur Faye * Panglossian Acres * Box 7 * Littlerock, CA   93543

"Gourmandism seeks out all the courtesies and all the refinements. It is
the only passion that does not leave behind any remorse, sorrow or
suffering."				-Lucien Tendret
From: RR.DTG@forsythe.stanford.edu (Troy Gilbert)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: BGLAS DANCE
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:14:55 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu


.......What if the Bradys were Gay?...........


AS QUEER AS THEY WANNA BE DANCE

FRIDAY THE 13TH

Elliott Program Center/Stanford University

10 pm - 2 am

$4

Whether you're queer or just fun and festive, you're invited to
shake your bootie.  Lots o'lascivious and reckless abandon.

Brought to you proudly by the

Bisexual, Gay, and lesbian Alliance at Stanford
From: carr@athena.cs.uga.edu (Beth Carr)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Madonna Sex survey
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:02:53 GMT


Hey everyone, i'm doing an article on Lesbian Views on Madonna's Sex (the book).
Anyone who's seen it, please tell me what you think (as in-depth as you have time for).
Also, does anyone have ideas on how i can contact the following women:
Pat Califia
Susie Bright
Catherine MacKinnon (if she's a woman-lover)
Carol Gilligan (same stipulation)

Plus, any suggestions for other "celebrity" lesbians to interview? (Bisexual ok too)?

Thanks in advance,
Gertie
Newsgroups: ba.motss
From: bbs.texx@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Tejas Wood)
Subject: Re: Boxer's acceptance speech and Channel 2
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 08:13:20 GMT

adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:

> In article <13071@optilink.UUCP> walsh@optilink.UUCP (Mark Walsh) writes:
> 
> > I was disappointed that Feinstein got so much less time than
> > Boxer because at the national level, she is still pretty much
> > an unknown quantity, unlike Boxer.
> 
> Nonsense.  Barbara Boxer was a *complete* unknown in Southern
> California until the primaries, whereas Feinstein has had 
> nationwide name recognition for the last 10+ years.
> 
> Arne
> 
> 

gimmie a break!
why is everyone slobbering over the dianne bitch?
all us queens were yelling "dump dianne" a few years back.
why the sudden love affair?
i voted for her simply because i hated her opponent even worse!
dianne made it clear to us that the gay community was an embarrassment to 
her and she wished we'd go away.
i swear she really did say the following: "Oh the gays? The stand on the 
street corners and wave dildoes at each other." She really did say that.
it'll take quite a while to find the quote.
dont expect much out of her, but thank god we didnt get seymore or 
herschenson!

--
Tejas Wood (bbs.texx@tsoft.sf-bay.org)
From: rjfleck@cmn2.Stanford.EDU (R. J. Fleck)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Kronos Quartet at Theater Artaud
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:48:56 GMT
Distribution: ba.motss ba.music su.gay
Organization: CCRMA, Stanford University

Kronos Quartet currently playing at Theater Artaud through tomorrow
night is well worth seeing (if tix are still available; looked almost
sold out last night)...  wonderfully inventive, politically aware, and
full of life...

Of special interest to the lgb community is the piece by Bob Ostertag
based on recordings he made in the Castro following the veto of AB101
last year...  these recordings are an integral component of the
music..  By the end of the piece the entire quartet is blowing a set
of the whistles many of us wear against gay-bashing...

And there's a lot of set-your-soul-singing g'damm beautiful music
too...

rj
From: jduke@Autodesk.COM (Jeff Duke)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: SF - Room For Rent
Date: 11 Nov 92 22:23:09 GMT
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA


* Apartment to Share in San Francisco *

Room available in 3br/1ba Mission district flat.

The apartment features:
	Hardwood floors
	Fireplace
	Backyard
	Extra Office/Studio room
	Lots of storage space
	Washer/Dryer hookup (no machines, yet)
	Tons of windows and sunlight 

You'll share with 2 GWM: one student, one computer professional (ha!)
and all around nice guy.

The apartment is located on quiet, tree-lined 21st Street (near
Valencia).  Great access to public transit, strong coffee, Modern Times
books, and El Toro burritos.

Only $400 a month (plus utilities).  What a deal!

If your interested call (415) 821-1810, ask for Jeff or Tim.
Or reply to jduke@autodesk.com.


 Jeff
EOE
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From: charlie@wet.UUCP (Charlie GALVIN)
Newsgroups: ba.motss,soc.motss
Subject: Boycott Colorado
Summary: Amendment 2 Passed--Make Colorado Pay
Keywords: hate activism politics election christian
Date: 5 Nov 92 05:57:18 GMT
Followup-To: soc.motss
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

I don't read the newsgroups very often, so pardon me if this is
duplicative.  But it's important for every person concerned about
civil rights to consider boycotting Colorado in the wake of the
passage of Amendment 2, which changed the state Constitution to
prohibit "sexual orientation" from being included in state or local
anti-discrimination laws.  It is now explicitly legal to discriminate
on the basis of sexual orientation in Colorado.

Please do not travel to or through Colorado, nor purchase any product
or service from a company which has a major office there.  This means:

Don't fly United or Continental or any airline which has a Denver hub.
If you must use these airlines, insist that you not fly into a
Colorado airport--and tell them why!

Don't purchase Coors beer.  Don't ski Colorado (cancel your
reservations for this winter, if you can) and tell them why!

If you happen to be a gay business owner in Colorado, may I suggest
that you fire all your heterosexual employees?  After all *that's*
legal too!

Also, if you are buying a home or involved in construction, do not
purchase or use Oregon Cedar Products.  This firm is headquartered in
Springfield, OR, which passed a local measure forbidding the inclusion
of "sexual orientation" in anti-discrimination law.

Money talks.  If you care about human rights--speak out with your
wallet!  And encourage your friends & associates to do likewise!

The Oregon Citizens' Alliance (= fundy hate group) has said they will
try to pass a measure in Oregon which is more like Colorado's.
Please!  Let's show them that bigotry can be expen$ive.
-- 
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  GALVIN, Jr.    | +1 (415) 821-9783  [UTC-8] | internacia lingvo
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From: litzell@sybase.com (conserver en lieu frais et sec)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: Boxer's acceptance speech and Channel 2
Date: 6 Nov 92 03:40:31 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <1992Nov4.092856.26522@resonex.com> michael@resonex.com (Michael Bryan) writes:
>
>Did anyone else happen to watch Boxer's acceptance speech last night
>on Channel 2 (Oakland's Fox affiliate)?   I was not incredibly
>surprised, but still quite happy, when she was going through her
>laundry list of who this was a victory for, and in the middle of it
>all she said "for straight people and for gay people".  This met
>with thunderous applause from those attending the party.
>
>The thing that irritated me was that *exactly* at that moment,
>Channel 2 pulled away from her speech and went on to other things.
>Every other Bay Area station, as well as CNN, continued to carry
>her speech past that point.  I was left with the (possibly wrong)
>impression that somebody got nervous at that point, and decided
>to "pull the plug".  I hope I'm wrong about that, but the timing
>certainly was lousy.
>

prompt: Undefined variable.
GLAAD/SFBA East Bay Division met with the news staff at KTVU
Channel 2 a few weeks ago. We all agreed that they were very
receptive. One of the assistant news directors has a lesbian
sister and knew LOTS about the gay community, organizations and
issues. We took a gang of representatives from various gay
groups and there wasn't much we could tell them that they didn't
know already.

If you have doubts about whether switching away from Boxer's speech
was a homophobic act, I'd encourage you to give them the benefit of
the doubt _this time_. We'll be watching them, though!

- Chuck Litzell
litzell@sybase.com
From: carr@athena.cs.uga.edu (Beth Carr)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: CHEAP SMALL APT. OR ROOM IN HOUSE
Date: 12 Nov 92 01:24:08 GMT



TWO DYKES SEEK SMALL APT. OR ROOM IN HOUSE beginning Jan.  Desire under $500 in QUEER SF NEIGHBORHOOD (pref. Upper Haight or Castro), walking distance from shopping & restaurants, and accessible by transit (for non-car owner), but with some parking 
available.

Reply IMMEDIATELY to carr@athena.cs.uga.edu
From: bbs.texx@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Tejas Wood)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: Boxer's acceptance speech and Channel 2
Date: 13 Nov 92 06:46:07 GMT
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238

pat@boy.com (It's just Pat!) writes:

> In article <XcF3TB1w165w@tsoft.sf-bay.org> bbs.texx@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Tejas W
> >
> >gimmie a break!
> >why is everyone slobbering over the dianne bitch?
> >blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
> >All us Queens used to blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
> >blah. Blah blah blah bla-bla-bla
> >And Queer nation is making *me* look bad. Blah blah blah blah blah blah.
> >--
> >Tejas Wood (bbs.texx@tsoft.sf-bay.org)
> 
> 
> Blah! Go Away!
> 

uh sombody misquoted me there!
-texx

--
Tejas Wood (bbs.texx@tsoft.sf-bay.org)
From: walsh@optilink.UUCP (Mark Walsh)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: Boycott Colorado
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:32:11 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

From article <4450@wet.UUCP>, by charlie@wet.UUCP (Charlie GALVIN):
> I don't read the newsgroups very often, so pardon me if this is
> duplicative.  But it's important for every person concerned about
> civil rights to consider boycotting Colorado in the wake of the
> passage of Amendment 2, which changed the state Constitution to
> prohibit "sexual orientation" from being included in state or local
> anti-discrimination laws.  It is now explicitly legal to discriminate
> on the basis of sexual orientation in Colorado.

I hope that most people realize that measures like this one,
as well as Measure 9 in Oregon, are ill-advised.  When it
comes to the choices of private individuals, keep the
government out of it!  However, I believe that your efforts
are mis-directed:

> Please do not travel to or through Colorado, nor purchase any product
> or service from a company which has a major office there.  This means:

What do these companies have to do with the Amendment?
Did Kinney's shoes in Denver support it?  Probably not,
so why penalize them?  There is a great (gay) restaurant
(whos name escapes me) in Colorado Springs.  Did they
support it?  Was it unanimous?

> If you happen to be a gay business owner in Colorado, may I suggest
> that you fire all your heterosexual employees?  After all *that's*
> legal too!

And they should have the right to!  Why restrict what a
business owner can and cannot do with him business?
Let free market forces rule by not allowing government
to impose its brand of morality on the rest of us.
If I want to flush my business down the toilet by not
renting to gays or straights, LET ME DO IT!

> Also, if you are buying a home or involved in construction, do not
> purchase or use Oregon Cedar Products.  This firm is headquartered in
> Springfield, OR, which passed a local measure forbidding the inclusion
> of "sexual orientation" in anti-discrimination law.

So did they support the law?  What if they had actually
spent a lot of money fighting it?

> The Oregon Citizens' Alliance (= fundy hate group) has said they will
> try to pass a measure in Oregon which is more like Colorado's.
> Please!  Let's show them that bigotry can be expen$ive.

Yes, do show *them*!  But please do not misdirect your efforts
at the innocent victims.  And please don't try to nullify
their efforts merely by pushing for legislation that does the
reverse of what they are trying to accomplish.  In essence,
work to end all governmental discrimination.

Cheers -- Mark
-- 
Mark Walsh (walsh@optilink) -- UUCP: uunet!optilink!walsh
AOL: BigCookie -- Amateur Radio: KM6XU@WX3K -- USCF: L10861
"What, me worry?" - William M. Gaines, 1922-1992