HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: honig@ruffles.ICS.UCI.EDU ("David A. Honig")
Subject: Thoughts For The Day
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: 10 Sep 92 02:43:18 GMT


Perhaps you'll enjoy pondering these the next time you journey..








Thoughts For The Day:

\hline

How do you know when you 've mastered this thing called "seeing"?  One of
the best telltale signs will find you returning from a shoot ehthusiastically
reporting that you shot more than 40 rolls of film in less than three days,
without remembering where you were or what your heard.  B.F. Peterson

"To get to the new paradigm, you don't just think about what it would be
like.  You put down stakes and try to start living in it."  ---Marc Weiser,
head of Comp Sci Lab, Xerox PARC, as reported in Advanced Imaging  Aug 92

He was now in full possesion of his physical sensses, \\
They were, indeed, preternaturally keen and alert,\\
He looked at the forest and the veining of each leaf,\\
He had not known that he lived in so wild a region.\\
	---Ambrose Bierce, An Occurance At Owl Creek

People that are really very wierd can get into sensative positions
and have a tremendous impact on history.
		---Vice President Dan Quayle

Remember, if these weren't hard problems, we wouldn't be interested in
them.  ---K. Madsen

I know but one freedom and that is the freedom of the mind.  ---Antoine de St.
Exupery

"Once limits on the brains capacity are exceeded, symptoms of information
overload appear: failures of response; irritability; boredom; the inability
to take decisive action; finally a pervading sense of 'so what."
---R. Restak M.D., {\em The Brain Has A Mind Of Its Own}

"Don't you believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear." ---Lou
Reed

Druids worship trees.  Zen Druids worship trees that don't exist.  Reformed
Druids worship trees and shrubs.  Reformed Zen Druids worship trees and
shrubs that don't exist.

"It gradually occurred to me that if you flattened out the forest, looked at
it as if it were pasted on a canvas and forgot that what you were looking at
were trees, leaves and plants that you could climb or walk beneath, you
could appreciate the forest solely as a visual experience, unrelated to its
biological essence.  You would be looking at a non-representations
expression of color, shape and texture." ---T. Fitzharris

\end{document}
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lamontg@carson.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: MDMA
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:53:33 GMT

u8951608@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:
>I keep hearing rumours of such arcane syntheses. Lamont occasionally
>trots out one involving minced liver or some such. I am highly
>skeptical. I repeat my plea for a real reference to anything even
>vaguely indicating that ammonia can aminate an allyl-benzene.

Its the rabbit liver that aminates it.  And there really is a reference
to the production of MMDA from mysristicin this way.  I have a photocopy
of the article... if I remember it, I'll bring it tomorrow...

[They don't mention yeild in this article, but I imagine its utterly
 worthless other than as a curiosity...]
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: DEA seeks "shoot-down" authority
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:27:39 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA

lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis) writes:
: 
: One thing a transponder does, no matter what code you set it to (provided
: you don't turn it off), is make the aircraft really obvious to the regional
: air traffic control computer.  All aircraft in US airspace must have
: "clearance"; that is, they must have permission to be where they are.  This
: is mostly so that the authorities can keep them from crashing into each
: other, but it has the added benefit of  allowing the government to monitor
: the border.  

Not true. Only aircraft flying in controlled airspace need clearance.

: In order to get a clearance, the pilot must file what is known as a flight
: plan.  This includes (among other things) the origin and destination of the
: flight.  If the origin was outside the US and the destination is inside the
: US, the aircraft is expected to stop by customs after landing.  Customs
: might search the craft, depending on "profile" or some other randomness.

See above. It is easily possible to fly at relatively low altitudes and
not require a clearance. 

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: An Actual Network Drug Joke!
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:43:44 GMT

Heard while flipping channels past NBC last night...

(Kid dressed as an EMT walks into kitchen):  "Hi, Dad!  It's one
o'clock in the morning and you're making sandwiches?  I thought you
stopped smoking dope..."

It actually got a response from the laugh track!

have fun
gak

---
I don't know what system you use,  you might try vodka in Evian bottles.   Some
people like  cream in  their morning coffee,  I spike  mine with  a little  JD.
Mickey's Big Mouths are an excellent choice, you can use the empty bottles as a
desktop vase.                               -Hoodlum Empire "Get Drunk At Work"
Richard Stueven        gak@wrs.com         attmail!gakhaus!gak        107/H/3&4
From: pierre@media.mit.edu (Pierre St. Hilaire)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Sleepless nights ...
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:38:57 GMT
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory


>I recently saw a movie called 'Monkey Shines' by George A.Romero
>In one of the scenes a doctor injected himself with a drug (?)
>to keep himself awake over the night. (he had to, since he had
>already been awake several nights)
>

	While on the subject of drugs and movies, I just saw "London
kills me", which describes the adventures of a young street hustler.
Great movie! There is a scene in which a girl spreads a paste on her
skin (it comes from a bottle labelled "TCP"), and then cuts her skin
with a razor blade (presumably to have the drug enter her bloodstream)
The context does not make clear if the paste is just a disinfectant or
a carrier for another drug (maybe heroin? she's a junkie). Does anyone
on netland have any information on such a practice?  Thanks.

				Pierre St Hilaire
				MIT Media Laboratory
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: Legality of mushroom cultivation
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:47:50 GMT

Somebody (in the US) writes:
>I've just begun the process for growing psilocybe shrooms, and I expect
>that it will be a full two months before I have any shrooms in my
>possession (if ever).  I've never heard of any laws regarding the 
>growing/possession of these mushrooms however.  I have to assume that
>growing them is legal, since I bought the spores and kit for them at
>a legitimate store here in town, but does anyone know about US law
>in regard to the possession/consumption of them?  Not that I'm really
>worried, but I don't wanna go around boasting about what a great batch
>of shrooms I have if they're technically illegal.

Growing ordinary mushrooms is legal.  Possession of psilocybe spores is also
legal, because the spores don't contain any scheduled substances.  

But posession/cultivation/distribution of anything that contains psilocybin
is illegal.   So now you're going to call off your plans to grow them,
right?  ;^)  I hear Evans sells pressure cookers cheap.

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
From: u8951608@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: The best hash I've ever
Date: 4 Sep 92 00:42:28 GMT
Organization: University of New South Wales

In article <1992Sep2.133307.10758@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:
> 	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
> 	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
> 
> In article <1992Sep2.120840.4104@linus.mitre.org> lewis@aera8700.mitre.or
>  (Keith Lewis) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep1.173901.27361@dragon.acadiau.ca>, 901371d@dragon.aca
> iau.ca (Di Dio) writes:
>>> Maybe someone dropped some liquid acid on the hash,I'm not sure if you
>>>can inhail it,but I really suspect that you can take that wonder drug
>>>anyway you please!  
...
>>From the (very few) subjective accounts of PCP use I've read, it seems t
> 
>>resemble LSD a lot more than THC.  Perhaps there was dust in your hash. 

I would say that PCP is no more similar to LSD than to THC in effect.

> 
>  My guess is that it was DMT. That has been a common thing to spray
> inferior pot with DMT. People I know had some a few times. They called it
> "trip weed". (Imagine that...)
                   
I doubt that very much. If DMT is diluted more than a factor of, say,
4 or 5 from the pure chemical, it becomes pretty difficult to get an
effective threshold dose by smoking, since the duration is so short. 
Moreover, I doubt anyone would mistake the bizarre effect of DMT for
anything else, and it would seem highly unlikely that the original 
poster was smoking something containing DMT.

Jeremy
jeremy@rsc3.anu.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,misc.legal,talk.politics.drugs
From: st1g9@rosie.uh.edu (Lee Preimesberger)
Subject: Re: Huumausainelakiuudistus
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:35:00 GMT

#In <1992Sep11.171906.20275@nntp.hut.fi> jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:
#>I don't feel like translating this now (perhaps someone else does?),
#>so I'll just repost it.  It is about the proposed change of drug laws
#>in Finland.

	Ahem.  I always knew I should have taken Finnish instead of Latin! :-)
How about the general gist of the article for us illiterates?

			  Lee Preimesberger
st1g9@jetson.uh.edu ----- Undergraduate Scum ----- University of Houston, USA
         All models over 18.  Copyright (C) 1992 LP Productions.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: malcolm@cs.su.oz.au (Malcolm Bjorn Gillies)
Subject: Re: Aus smokers - ACT decriminalises mull..
Reply-To: malcolm@minnie.cs.su.oz.au (Malcolm Bjorn Gillies)
Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 04:40:20 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.030306.334@nntp.hut.fi> jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:
>In article <ck.716194296@iconix.oz.au>, ck@iconix (Chris Karadaglis) writes:
>>"ACT reform puts law out to grass"
>>
>>People caught with small quantities of marijuana will have to pay only an
>>on-the-spot fine under new laws passed yesterday by the Australian Capital
>>Territory Legislative Assembly.
>
>What - this is decriminalization?  Then Finland is also considering
>decriminalization!
>
>>While payment of the $100 fine will mean admitting guilt, no criminal record
>>will exist under the legislation introduced by Independent MLA Micheal Moore
>>and supported by the Labor minority government.
>
>Same here.
>
>>People possessing up to 25 grams (wow!) of marijuana or five cannibis plants 
>>will have 60 days to pay the fine.
>
>Here, possession of only 1-2 "one-timers" would be included in use -
>though that's in the explanation only, and there's a danger it would
>be ignored in practice.  In the explanation of the propsal they say
>that also MJ produced in "certain growing environmetns" and thus low
>on THC when compared to hash could be considered mild, and thus
>grounds for calling it "rikkomus" (small crime/minor crime) and using
>the fine proceedings with (I think) no crime record.
>
>But it perhaps won't happen.  The last time the parliament _added_
>criminalization of use to the law, while it has not there in the
>proposal of the government.  Now the government (more propoerly head
>of Justice dept.) didn't like the lower penalties on use, but the
>"decriminalization"-style proposal has been in the media so it's still
>possible for it to pass.
>
>//Jyrki

The original bill, which was proposed about six months ago, was for complete
decriminalisation (i.e. no fines at all) for up to the amounts mentioned.
However, the original proposal ended up being watered down somewhat in its
progress through parliament, and the law is now roughly on par with the
South Australian laws which have been in operation for a number of years.

A friend of mine speculates that in time Canberra will become the vice capital
of Australia, as the ACT is the only state with legal X-rated videos, along
with legal gambling and prostitution. That of course coupled with the fact
that there's precious little else to do in Canberra ;-)

Malcolm
--
And when we reach that point, whatever happened _will happen again_
From: cpsa@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Stefan Aeberhard)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: THC - a UV protector
Keywords: THC, Used as a UV protector by MJ
Date: 7 Sep 92 01:15:15 GMT
Organization: James Cook University


Hi all, 

A friend of ours came over for dinner last night. Him, 
as in Tony Carrol, a well known natural products chemist. 
According to him, the primary function of THC in Hemp
is to protect against harmful UV light. To work out the 
functions of various compounds in plants and animals is 
part of his work, so I tend to believe him. 

Certainly would explain why weed grown in great altitudes
(or here in tropical Queensland :-) is of better quality.

He also found a compound very closely related to THC 
in some plant of some kind growing in the Great Barrier
Reef. The name of the plant escapes me (which might have 
something to do with a certain UV protector :-), 
but maybe that is better for the reef.

Smile !

		- Stefan


		
-- 
Stefan Aeberhard           | "Just when I was about to see the colour of
stefan@coral.cs.jcu.edu.au |  my phantasy, it glided around a corner."
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Subject: Re: New designer drug
Organization: Microdata International Telecomm Service, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:50:06 GMT

pierre@media.mit.edu (Pierre St. Hilaire) writes:

>	People chew the young fresh shoots of the plant. The active
>ingredients Cathine and Cathinone become inactive when the plant dries
> so the plant has to be consumed within a day or two after harvest.
>This naturally complicates the logistics of distributing such a drug,
>so its use is essentially confined to the Middle East.

   Middle East and East Africa. It is especially popular in Ethiopia and
Somalia. Some time ago some Somali refugees were charged for trying to import
khat. It was wrapped in banana leaves to keep it fresh.
-- 
Jani Heinonen
jah@mits.mdata.fi

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: dfo@tko.vtt.fi (Foxvog Douglas)
Subject: How could Amanita Muscaria (fly agaric) be safely prepared?
Organization: unknown
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 06:04:31 GMT

There are Amanita Muscaria mushrooms (fly agaric) popping up everywhere 
around here in northern (actually central) Finland.  I understand that they
are psychedelic, but also highly poisonous--possibly deadly.  Could
people in the know email to me methods of preparation that would make
these safe to try?  

I do not read this group so please use email.  I will collect the
answers and post them here after a week or so.

dfo@tko.vtt.fi
-- 
doug foxvog     
dfo@tko.vtt.fi   
Xref: sparky alt.drugs:15481 talk.politics.drugs:6186
From: murray@sun13.scri.fsu.edu (John Murray)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.society.civil-liberty,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: JDs (was Re: Clinton in _Rolling Stone_ ...)
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:57:36 GMT
Reply-To: murray@sun13.scri.fsu.edu (John Murray)
Followup-To: alt.drugs
Organization: SCRI, Florida State University

In article <1992Sep10.221614.27349@cs.ucla.edu> frazier@kona.cs.ucla.edu (Gregory Frazier) writes:
>
>One that goes rat-a-tat-tat much quicker than I think they
>can move their trigger fingers.

You might be surprised what you can do with a semi-auto. I've shot a friend's
9mm semi-auto handgun at a range before, and without really trying could get
abt. 4 rounds/sec. An acquaintance who had an (AR-15? whatever the semi-auto
version of the army's M-16 automatic rifle is called) once told me that by
using grip exercisers and practicing at the range, he could get 14 rounds/sec
off. (count "one one- thousand" and think about 14 shots going off in that
time..)

On the other hand, the "Brrrrrp" of a real, modern full-auto is unmistakeable.

Oh well, off-subject. Back to liberty, or drugs, or whatever floats your boat.

-- 
Disclaimer: Opinions mine. Brainless, knee-jerk reactions are your problem.
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: fasano@venus.iucf.indiana.edu (Matthew John Fasano)
Subject: Re: Quiz Time
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   
Reply-To: fasano@venus.iucf.indiana.edu
Organization: IUCF
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:52:30 GMT

In article <9209091933.aa02748@Paris.ics.uci.edu>, honig@ruffles.ICS.UCI.EDU ("David A. Honig") writes...
> 
>1) According to the DSM (III), what drug can one be dependent on but not
>abuse?
> 
>2) Name 3 drug-categories that one can abuse but not be dependent upon?
> 
>3) Name a drug that cops know cause nystagmus.  For extra credit, name another.
> 
> 
>Ans:
>1) tobacco
>2) cannabis, hallucinogens, cocaine
>3) PCP.  MDMA does too.
> 
>If these confuse you, look up the DSM defs of substance dependence and
>abuse.  Simply, dependence means you get physical withdrawl, abuse means
>you're harming some aspect of your life.

as for number one I suppose your lungs are not an aspect of your life.

					matt fasano
> 
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: mauax@warwick.ac.uk (Brazil)
Subject: Can we talk about the legalisation of Drugs now?
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 02:22:27 GMT


Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: MAOI & shrooms
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 14:15:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.132540.27172@klaava.Helsinki.FI> ppennane@klaava.He
sinki.FI (Petrus Pennanen) writes:
>In article <HABA.92Sep9005916@lesti.hut.fi> haba@lesti.hut.fi (Harri "Ha
a" Suomalainen) writes:
>>The effective substance in the shrooms is psilocin. Psilocin, however, 
s
>>only mildly effective. 
>
>If I'm not too badly brain damaged yet the effective substance in shroom
 is
>psilocybin, and psilocin is 1.4 times as potent as psilocybin. 
>--
>Petrus.Pennanen@helsinki.fi


 Stoichiometrically speaking, psilcocin and psilocybin are EXACTLY the same
potency. Psilocybin has that bulky phoshporyl group which adds
considerably to its weight, wchich means that weight for weight you have
to have more psilocybin _by weight_ than psilocin, but on a mole per mole
basis there is the same amount. Get it?
 There is more psilocybin than psilocin in mushrooms whichc is a good
thing because psilocybin is considerably more stable than psilocin...

St. Anthony

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From: jsb@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jeremy Seth Byrn)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Nutmeg.. a joke?
Date: 8 Sep 92 01:54:33 GMT
Reply-To: jsb@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jeremy Seth Byrn)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: jsb@huey.cc.utexas.edu


Well I went out today and spent 3 bucks for 51 grams of nutmeg, after 
which I consumed about 3 tablespoons of the stuff.  That was around 3:30pm.
Now it's 8:42pm and the only effects I've felt are a slight headache and
a bad taste in my mouth from that awful shit.  I read that it takes from
one to five hours to take effect.  Well if it doesn't hit me real soon I'm
going to have my doubts.  Does anybody know if it matters whether or not
the stuff is fresh ground or can you just buy it off the shelf?  I bought
McCormick's East Indian pre-ground.  It was very disgusting.  If I try this
again I think I'll have to mix it with orange juice or something to dull
the taste.
 
Anyway, I just thought I'd let all of you know that it apparently isn't
as potent as some people say.. at least not for me.
 
Jeremy
Xref: sparky alt.drugs:15659 talk.politics.drugs:6266
From: civl097@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: 900thousand babies born addicts in US
Date: 12 Sep 92 13:13:44 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

In article <1992Sep11.152524.27511@henson.cc.wwu.edu>, n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
> civl097@csc.canterbury.ac.nz writes:
> 
>>I'm sure I heard this on the TVNZ "News" tonight.
> 
>>A US Senate report just released claims that 900000 babies have been
>>born addicts, in the last three years!
> 
> 	Many believe those figures are very conservative.
> 
>>Does anybody know anything about this. Have I heard these figures wrong?
>>What are they addicted to?
> 
> 	Milk, of course.
> 
> Jim Del Vecchio 

OK, I gather this statement *was* made in the report.
Can somebody provide the basis of this figure, or any other information 
relevant to it. I've heard about the 1000's of "crack babies" but have
seen reasonable repudiations of these.
Are they just dragging up the crack baby myth or are they refering to
something else.
Here in New Zealand, the media seems to be about 90% behind the worst excesses
of the US War on drugs. It would be helpl if some of the nonsense they
present could be quickly and authoritively rubbished.

Brandon Hutchison,University of Canterbury,Christchurch
                  New Zealand

Xref: sparky alt.drugs:15572 talk.politics.drugs:6215 soc.culture.new-zealand:2569
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs,soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Australian MJ decriminalised (in Canberra at least)
From: civl097@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:48:33 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

From the "Christchurch Press", today 10 Sept 1992

----------------------------------------------------------------
   Aust drug laws changed

AAP    Canberra
 People caught with small quantities of marijuana
will only have to pay an on-the-spot fine under
new laws passed yesterday by the Australian
Capital Territory Legislative Assembly. 
  
While payment of the $Aust100 ($NZ133) fine
will mean implicitly admitting guilt, no criminal
record of the offence will exist under the
legislation proposed by an Independent member
of the legislative assembly, Mr Michael Moore, and
supported by the Labor minority government. 
  
People possessing up to 25 grams of marijuana or
five cannabis plants will have 60 days to pay the
on-the-spot fine. 
The amendments to the Drugs of Dependence
Act would give the ACT and South Australia the
most liberal cannabis laws in the country, Mr Moore 
said. He initially wanted on-the-spot 
fines to apply to possession of up to 50g of
marijuana, but the law was watered down by the
Government on its passage through the
Assembly. He said Australia should not ratify
international treaties which restricted its right to
reform drug laws. 

  
The reforms will save time and money in the
courts and will not brand as criminals people
who get caught experimenting with marijuana,
Mr Moore said. 

-------------- end of quoted article------------------

Brandon Hutchison,University of Canterbury,Christchurch
                  New Zealand