HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: peram@cs.tamu.edu (Suresh B Peram)
Subject: Re: Gang Rape by Cops in Tamilnadu; Mallikarjun Mansoor dead.
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:37:16 GMT

In article <fb78.716433514@sol> fb78@sol.acs.unt.edu (Ganesh Gopalakrishnan) writes:
>The latest (Aug 92) edition of Newstrack video magazine (published by
>India Today) has one segment of about 15-20 minutes on this.
>Makes your blood boil and hang your head in shame. What is the
>meaning of freedom and democracy if ordinary people have this
>kind of protection. - Ganesh 
>
>   


I cannot express the amount of frustration and helplessness
that I experience when I hear about such incidents.  Why is
it that our police force behaves in such a way and manages 
to get away.  Is it a symptom of a major desease that is
plaguing India or can it be cured independently?
From: gopal@rwja.umdnj.edu (Srihari Gopal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Clinton's Email Address
Date: 5 Sep 92 17:16:35 GMT
Organization: Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, Piscataway NJ

ss7k+@andrew.cmu.edu (Shvetank Shah) writes:
>>Bill Clinton:
>>75300.3114@compuserve.com 
>Shvetank Shah                              
>       Internet: helix@CMU.EDU                    
>       Tax & Policy Economics Group
>       Price Waterhouse
     


NOTE EVERYONE THE ABOVE ADDRESS IS WRONG!!!!!!
The correct address for Bill Clinton is:

75300.3115@CompuServe.com

Srihari Gopal
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: vikasdel@cwis.unomaha.edu (vikas dhablania)
Subject: just testing
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:18:09 GMT

Sorry! I  am just testing!!!!

-- 
-vikas                  Ph# (402) 551-9313
417, North 40th Street
Apt# 2
OMAHA, NE-68131
From: rgm4@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Raghuram G Murtugudde)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Gang Rape by Cops in Tamilnadu; Mallikarjun Mansoor dead.
Date: 13 Sep 92 19:41:52 GMT
Reply-To: rgm4@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Raghuram G Murtugudde)
Organization: Columbia University


 Heard this morning on the Vision of Asia News:

 Somewhere in southern TN(Arcott dist ?), several policemen have been 
 accused of gang 
 raping a woman while her husband in handcuffs was forced to watch. 
 The woman was shown  being interviewed in the news segment. There are
 accusations that the Cheif Minister, despite being a woman has delayed 
 the investigation for more than 3 weeks after the incident was reported.
 Her husband was arrested and the wife was told that it was just a 
 suspicion and that he would be released in the morning. And then the cops
 proceeded to shine the flash light on her face and decided that she was
 good looking(as narrated by her) and dragged her to the police station.
 Her husband died in custody and the police claim it was a suicide but
 the autopsy and the eye-witnesses say he was beaten up badly. 
 
 
 In other news, the music maestro Mallikarjun Mansoor has died in his
 residence at Dharwar, Karnataka. He was 82 years old. He was the
 recipient of several national honors and was the honorary chairman of
 the music department in Karnataka University, Dharwar. I had the honor
 of personally meeting him several times and listenting to him perform.
 He was a very unassuming and polite man despite his stature in the music
 world in India.

 Raghu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: sdoki@maxine.wpi.edu (Suresh Doki)
Subject: Re: Sati is good ...
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 02:03:08 GMT

>Summary: 
>Expires: 
>References: <BtvH4F.4wK@wpi.WPI.EDU> <754@iac.uunet.uu.net> <Bu0oz0.1GF@wpi.WPI.EDU>
>Sender: 
>Followup-To: 
>Distribution: 
>Organization: Investment Technology Group, Culver City, CA
>Keywords: 
>
>NO! We are always 100% intelligent and YOU are so lame.
>
>- Meha


yeah right!! the double headers and [ two other set of headers that
were removed to lessen your embarrassment ] show how intelligent you
are. i guess you are in the ninety percent non-intelligent period now.


Suresh

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: bhatnagr@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Raj Bhatnagar)
Subject: Re: SALMAN RUSHDIE
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:16:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.005525.7823@twg.com> khan@twg.com (Sharaz Khan) writes:
>In article <1992Sep10.201425.6227@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> 
rroy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Raja R Roy) writes:


>Islam is the only faith that the West has always feared.  

The West seems to want to optimize a mix of individual freedoms (economic,
political, social, and spiritual) and prosperity for itself. The last
"faith" annihilated was communism because it sought to take away the
individual freedoms and did not result in the prosperity for its adherents.
The West opposes Islam also for precisely the same reasons - Taking away of
individual freedoms in the name of some belief in some revelation, and not
resulting in econ+social prosperity wherever the "faith" is being followed.


>Islam offers
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~
>comprehensive solutions to many social and human problems that no other
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>faith can combine with real and practical life (business, science, economics,
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>etc.)
 ~~~~~

Please implement the solutions in any country where this "faith" is 
followed and demonstrate that better living conditions and prosperity
are attained and the whole world will come to you to learn Islam - the 
way as the Soviets are now coming to the US to learn Business management
techniques, China is starting stock markets, and US is going to Japan
to study and learn their management style.  People will automatically
learn a new path to success whenever the path can be demonstrated to lead to 
success. Till that time, PLEASE, stop bragging and beating an empty drum
the way your above statement does. 


>Once a person becomes Muslim, it is obligatory for one
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>to refuse most that operates in the current system of Government.  
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The above attitude of Muslims towards the non-Islamic governments of the
lands in which they live will be the only reason for the decline of
Islam in this world in the decades to come - unless the Muslims learn
to live in a multi-cultural, multi-faith world peacefully.



>Sharaaz Khan
>


---raj

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,talk.abortion,alt.sex
From: ngopalas@ho12.eng.ua.edu (Nath S. Gopalaswamy)
Subject: Re: Arrogant Indians and Susan Forgach
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1992 20:09:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.174454.14354@news.columbia.edu> rgm4@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Raghuram G Murtugudde) writes:
>
> Hi Rohit,
>
> it is obvious that you are pro-life. Now, do you support CAPITAL 
> PUNISHMENT? Do you know how many of these people with souls support
> capital punishment ? Do you know any of these pro-lifers who actually
> adopt these unwanted babies brought into this world ?  The so called
> people with souls are typically conservatives who oppose most social
> programs to assimilate the poor into the rest of the society. How
> do you reconcile this two-faced approach to life ? Abortion is
> not a black and white issue and you can not claim moral high-ground
> based on your pro-life stand. If you insist on bringing the child into
> this world then you must stand by and bear the responsibility for the
> real life of this child after it is born. If it starves or goes into
> an orbit of drugs/crime/jail because the society couldn't provide
> the child subsequent care, then you pro-lifers are responsible. If your 
> lord told you about the soul in the cow, did he tell you it's ok to
> steal its milk or kill it and eat its meat ? If you are not a meat
> eater then did your lord tell you that plants don't have souls because
> you have no choice but to eat them ?  You drew yourself a convenient 
> line beyond which everybody is immoral, but stand back for a minute and 
> think again. YOu have no more right to make a judgement call than the
> next person and you yourself say that Susan's view on sanctity of life
> is much stricter than yours. There is a contradiction right there.
>
> Raghu
>
> 
As an addendum, what about birth control? It is the right of the sperm to
fertilize the ovum. Since the sperm and the ovum are also potential life-forms,
birth control is also immoral. What right do you have to prevent a potential
life-form from developing? In my opinion, all methods of birth control are
immoral and insensitive, just take time off for a minute and think how the
sperm and the ovum must feel. Is there no one to speak for THEIR rights? In the
same vein, masturbation is also immoral, how can you have the heart to waste
so many sperm, poor things will be so disappointed at not being given a chance 
to develop into a life-form. Are you heartless souls out there listening?
Stop wanking off NOW!
As for those people who argue that the population must be controlled, 
there is a secret Govt plan to colonize Mars and Venus. So space ain't any 
problem. Also this will mean that women will not be able to work outside any
more, how can they, when they are pregnant all the time, and busy raising the
twenty three kids properly in a moral and nice atmosphere. Now that ought to
put a smile on any man's face. So I say Go for it Prolifers! stick it to `em.
Banning abortions is only the first step in our grand plan!

Nath.

Pro-lifer and damn proud of it.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sdoki@maxine.wpi.edu (Suresh Doki)
Subject: Re: Profile of Suresh Doki
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 20:28:48 GMT

In article no. <sdjfhjds> sankar@caip.rutgers.edu (ananth sankar) said:
>Species: Possibly human, considering he can type..some gorillas and chimps
>         can do this too.

	Actually I think all the chimps and gorillas can do the typing
        with ease, considering that you yourself had managed to type
	in a couple of pages( nonsense though)

>Intellect: Nil...this is evidenced by the lack of information conveyed
>           by his ramblings. Looks like he randomly hits the keys...gorillas
>	   and chimps do this too...and this weakens the species
>	   classification above and makes one lean in favor of him being
>	   one of these apes. The name, Doki, also sounds like a typical
>	   Gorilla name ( to those other offended Dokis, read a Doki
>	   posting referring to names)

	It takes a genius to recognize a genius. Chimps ( also wimps )
        like you who can decide the intellect of a guy by the last
	name definitely lack the genius to recognize me.




Suresh

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.culture.kerala
From: wizard@joseph.WPI.EDU (Ajay Khanna)
Subject: Re: Arrogant Indians and Susan Forgach
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 01:20:30 GMT

The honorable <RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET> (Rohit Parikh) chanced to say:

=          However, the business about abortion  has bothered me a lot.   How
=     can people with souls be so STRONGLY pro-choice?  I can understand that
=     abortion might sometime be the lesser  of two evils.  But a `right  to
=     choose' seems to imply that we need not even consider the other evil.

(etc, etc.  Many reasonable & valid pro-life arguments deleted)

I think your position is completely reasonable, Rohit.  In
consideration of your beliefs, please refrain from having an abortion
yourself.  [any humor unintentional]  But why forcibly prevent other
people (through the use of laws) from having abortions?  Everyone has
a right to be free, and if you, or the government, decides it does not
want those foetuses to die when an abortion is performed, figure out a
way to keep the foetus alive.  But forcing a woman to carry a child
against her will for nine months, enduring labor, and waking up in the
middle of the night for around six months after the baby is born to
breastfeed it AGAINST HER WILL is torture.

Keeping the baby alive, and forcing the mother to carry it are two
distinct objectives of pro-lifer's.  And they should remain so.

just my two cents.

-dat friendly wizard (Ajay Khanna)

p.s. although this article is cross-posted to talk.abortion, I do not
read that newsgroup.  please email me if you think it necessary.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: balarama@cae.wisc.edu (Prabhu Balaraman)
Subject: Re: AMMU LOOKING FOR ANUJA.
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 7 Sep 92 10:25:53 CDT

 > looking for...
 > Ammu

    Watch out for those flames, missiles and 'Ammu'nition !
From: arastogi@nyx.cs.du.edu (D Murari)
Subject: NATIONAL LANGUAGE OF INDIA, PROPOSAL: HINDLISH
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 22:25:39 GMT


  Believe it or not, the future national language of 
our dear and pyara bharat is going to be Hindlish.
Well, most of you might be tensed and now perhaps 
might be thinking: where is this guy from? 
He doesn't sound like a 'bhaiya' of U.P or Bihar
nor does he utter any south Indian-  'yetyo'       
language, what is this guy upto?

This prolific idea striked my brain cells, while attending
one of the class on Computer language, where instructor
said that shortest way to communicate the logic and  
the machine dependent speed: are two most important factors 
to be considered while coding a computer program. 
According to him, we could use C and assembly languages  
interchangeably to write an efficient and fast program.    

So, my creative mind came into action and its tubelight
flickered to understand the principles of 'Hindlish'.   
The structure and semantic composition of the so called 
esteemed 'Hindlish' can be judged from following verses    
of famous Indian movie, where the super star sings to 
please his beloved:  

'Hum Tum per itna dying  
 Jitna seeene tak paane aaying 
 Aaakash mein Panchi flying 
 Bhavra bagiyan mein gaaying'    

So, our intelligent scians have finally got it, yes 
you all got it right, it is going to be Hindi and 
English:  Hindi + English = Hindlish. Remember, 
the laws of Sanskrit for sandhying the two words.

Haan tu hum kya keh rahe thein, the language will be so 
famous that one day everybody will learn it from 'hindlish'
made easy cassettes, by shri Johny nautankiwala.
The language will be unambiguous, because, whatever
sandigdhity will be there, it will be removed by unambiguity 
of Angrezi words and vice a versa.

Imagine the scenario, when hindlish is going to be 
implemented in schools, collegealayas, and bharitya
sansthan of technologies (now iits and then bsts),   
where people will accept in all official and unofficial
karyas hindlish language.   

Then, there will be no lingua-war between south and north,
because, whenever our dakshin Indians will say, "sorry, 
we don't understand the hindi part of hindlish", 
our Uttar Indians will say, "neither, we do understand
the English part of hindlish", so in understanding-  
understanding all misundersanding will be gone.  
So, yeh huin na kuch lav wale baat.   

Sorry, I am in Jaldi, because someone is on my sur,
I shall discuss about the Hindlish more in future.

AR  

#include <std_disclaimers.h>
From: crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: India  launches first major anti-AIDS campaign
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:28:03 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.indian
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <1992Sep8.153051.3986@meaddata.com> udcrusd@meaddata.com (Sylvia D'Cruz) writes:
>India  launches first major anti-AIDS campaign
>
>    Faced with the threat of an AIDS epidemic,  India  is launching a 100
>million dollar campaign in its first major effort to fight the deadly disease.

Now when you return to India (for those of you who do) you can take with
you the wealth of information on HIV and AIDS that we've posted here on SCI.
This is a rare opportunity to do some good with the time wasted reading and
posting on SCI.  

Ed
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.american,soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.italian
From: kkrishn@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: RAHUL SHRIDHAR,BITS CHEMICAL GRADUATE
Summary: LOOKING FOR RAHUL SHRIDHAR,EX-BITSIAN
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:40:46 GMT
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

HI NETTERS,

I AM LOOKING FOR Mr. RAHUL SHRIDHAR, 86 CHEMICAL ENGINEERING GRADUATE
FROM BITS,PILANI. HE WORKED FOR SOMETIME IN RELIANCE BEFORE MOVING TO
SOME UNIVERSITY IN USA.

IF ANYBODY IS IN TOUCH WITH HIM, KINDLY MAIL HIS ADDRESS OR PHONENO.
TO KKRISHN@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU

THANKS IN ADVANCE.


HARI
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh)
Subject: Re: Kashmir Campaign
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 09:35:03 GMT

mg819305@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod) writes:

>There would have been a plebiscite in Kashmir too, but Pakistani
>army tried to take Kashmir by force.  The Pakistan army (as it is
>well known for), began looting and raping, that is also the reason
>it never reached Srinagar, and the Indian army had to be deployed
>there on the request of Kashmir's king to restore order.  The Indian
>army would have re taken Kashmir, if Mahatma Gandhi had not prevented
>it.  Nehru went to the UN with this Kashmir problem and it was
>decided there that plebiscite should be held when the Pakistani
>army pulls out of Kashmir.  India is still waiting for the Pakistani
>army to pull out.

>Manoj 



Manoj:

Why only Pakistan? Why not China,too?

Why does India bother of PAkistan when uprising is more in Indian occupied
Kashmir?

Bye
Adil


>>>as an aside, with only a little bearing to this discussion, are you from
>>>Kashmir? if so, where in Kashmir?
>>
>>
>>>-harsh
>>>-- 
>>>_______________________________________________________________________________
>>>Harshavardhan Deshmane                                 I had a signature
>>>ECE Dept.,                                             it became an address:(
>>>North Carolina State University.                       had@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu
>>
From: banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Kashmir Campaign
Date: 11 Sep 1992 10:25:37 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phad.hsc.usc.edu

In article <1992Sep11.103219.10271@ecrc.de> sanjiva@ecrc.de (Sanjiva Prasad) writes:

[stuff deleted]

>He was arrested for advocating secessionism (and perhaps actually because of his covert
>discussions with the CIA and other intelligence agencies).
>

Ya right! And you had access to official transcripts of those discussions.

If you accuse somebody of posting "bullshit" on the net, dont do it yourself,
at least not in the same article.

Samit


>- Sanjiva
From: sunder@altair.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Sonia's book on Rajiv
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:59:33 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
NNTP-Posting-Host: altair.crhc.uiuc.edu

In article <1992Sep14.152754.21212@usl.edu>, sgs@ucs.usl.edu (Sudhindranath SG) writes:
|> 
|> It is probably worth reminding that we are talking about a man
|> who was so disrespectful of human life. Rajiv Gandhi's reaction
|> to news reports of the Sikh massacre in November 1984 in the aftermath 
|> of the Indira Gandhi assasination is very significant. His words are 
|> indeed memorable : "When a big tree falls, the earth shakes". 
|> 
|> We are talking about a man who sent thousands of our troops on 
|> a suicidal trip to Sri Lanka just to divert public attention from 
|> a controversy that he was embroiled in.

I am not sure that that's why he did it, but I still think that the
whole thing essentially resulted in Indian lives being lost for
political reasons with no apparent benefit to India -- quite enough
to make me lose any respect that I had for him (which wasn't much
anyway).

|> 
|> IMO, anybody who has "care" and "compassion" for such a man
|> is either a Buddha. Or an idiot.

Amen. In spades. Not that I endorse someone knocking him off. I'd
much rather that he suffered some humiliation like being hauled in
front of some person who lost relatives in the 1984 riots and then
asked to say something as callous as "When ..., ... earth shakes."
There are situations when a leader is incapable of doing something
due to a lack of power, but Rajiv Gandhi suffered, if from anything,
a surfeit of power (a 4/5 majority in Parliament); and the b*%$#@d
blew it big. Beats me WHY anyone would pay $52.00 (Rs. 1600??) for
a book on him. It would be the world's most expensive roll of toilet
paper.


-- 
Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu

If my employer shares these views, I'd be most surprised.
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From: prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: THE COW!!
Date: 8 Sep 1992 22:24:05 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Reply-To: prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem)
NNTP-Posting-Host: prem.lbl.gov
Keywords: Chakk de Phattey!!


	I recently saw an article on a UPSC candidate's essay describing
	a cow.  I am sure the person who posted the article did so in a
	humorous spirit, and frankly, I too derived a little mirth from
	the poor examinee's effort to get his/her point across.....

	However, I don't think there was anything fundamentally wrong
	in the author's grasp (figuratively... :^)) of the subject.

	Is it really fair to ridicule such a person just because his/her
	grasp of a foreign language is less than perfect ??  The writer
	seemed to be pretty well informed about the subject, and would
	certainly have provided a good presentation if he/she had been
	allowed to use the language of his/her choice.

	What is _MY_ point ??  I am not really sure, but I feel rather
	hypocritical to make fun of someone's command over English,
	when my own command of that person's native tongue is less
	than perfect. What do _YOU_ folks think ??

	If nothing else, at least, this article will score one for me on 
	the prolific poster's list..............  =:^)

	Prem!
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