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From: darknite@camelot.bradley.edu (John S. Novak III)
Subject: Help with Finance...
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 26 Jan 93 08:24:42 GMT


Firstly, my apologies if this note is in the wrong notesboard,
but it sounded more appropriate here than in soc.college.grad.
Fell free to redirect me if there's a better place.

Now then, I need some help finding financing for my graduate
tenure.  I plan to attend Bradley University, which is in
Illinois, and am an Illinois resident (current permanent address
is near Chicago, next year, I will officially change that to
Peoria.)  I am a white male of Slavic descent, though all brances
of my family have been in the US for three generations back.

Tuition will be approximately 3,000 dollars for each year (two
semesters) and living expenses will probably be some 6,500 to
7,000 dollars per year (I may be overestimating, but that's
better than running out of money.)

Unfortunately, my Grad Handbook lists only three sources of
scholarships (other than one given out by the school, which will
cover only tuition, if anything) all of which are available only
to 'minorities' or females.  To my knowledge, being Slavic
doesn't count as being a minority.  Also, only a few loan options
are given.

My ultimate question is, does anyone have any information about
financing a graduate career under my circumstances?  Can anyone
send me some information on _other_ scholarship corporations, or
at least point me in the right direction?

I do plan to speak with the financial aid officers on campus, but
the more sources of information I have, the better.  

I also forgot to mention that, yes, I'll be working a part time
job if at all possible to make ends meet during the year (and
summer/winter, for that matter...)

Any information provided will be greatly appreciated.
Mail or post, I'll see it.

Thanks,

--
"Slowly but surely, as Hammond's work looms larger and larger, I give up more
 and more fluids."
          -John S. Novak III, 10-06-91
John S. Novak, III		darknite@camelot.bradley.edu
From: jpanusa@sol.UVic.CA (John Panusa)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Yale Political Science
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:30:14 GMT
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, B.C. CANADA
Originator: jpanusa@sol.UVic.CA

I'm curious to here from Yale graduate students as to
the admitting process for graduate work at Yale, esp.	
the humanities (poli. sci.).  For instance, does Yale
focus on letters of recommendation (I've got a beauty
from a law prof who did his LL.M at Yale) or grades, or
GRE or a combination of all 3?  I know some schools really
look at 'who' is writing recommendation letters, and others
don't really care where Joe Blow got his/her PhD.  As well,
does being a Canadian preclude financial aid/TA'ship? (The
calender is unclear..)

Any info would be greatly appreciated!!

Gianpaolo Panusa
From: laurent@babbage.csus.edu (Laurent Chavey)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Re: Further education in American Universities
Summary: some ideas
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:07:46 GMT
Organization: California State University, Sacramento

In article <1993Jan21.130936.25391@csd.uwe.ac.uk> e_duros@apple.uwe.ac.uk (E Duros) writes:
>
>  I'm a French student currently studying Computing For Real Time Systems at
>The University of the West in England, Bristol and hopefully will be 
>graduating this year. After that, I would like to further my education in a
>American university. As yet, I have no details of any such establishments in
>America, and I would be very grateful if anybody could send me information
>regarding computer courses within all American Universities.
>  
>  Also it would be very helpful to me, if people could send me any personal
>views that they have about life in any American University.
>
> Could all responses be posted to me via this news group.
>
>
> Many thanks for your help.
>                       
> Emmanuel DUROS.

A good start would be to define what your field of interest is in computer. Are you more interested in business or scientific applications. Then you need to assess your self in a very objective way. Are you talented, over or under achiever, etc..
After all these litle but necessary come back to reality, you are ready for the hunt.
Start looking at how much you have to spend. Take the GRE, Genreal Graduate receord exam. Look at your scores.
If you scroe in the 90% and above in both quantitative and reasoning, go for goof universities, from 80% to 90% these are medium, etc.
I do not say the GRE reflects your skills, but the universities look at it as such. (kind of like Polytechnic that looks at engglish results to descide your level in math).
A good book to get is the Graduate school handbook from ACM, tel (212) 869.7440.I recomend you to become a member of ACM just for this and other goodies.
E-MAIL ACMHELP@ACMVM.BITNET
If you need more help here are a few tel for universites.
Clemson (803) 656-3444
University of rochester (716) 275-5478
University of Chicago (312) 702-6011
North Dakota State University (701) 237-0862

Salut.
From: imd@otago.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Study at U Hawaii
Date: 29 Jan 93 14:48:51 +1300
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

Hi,

I posted a request to this group some months ag but did not get any response,
so I thought I'd try again.

I'm considering doing a 12-month MBA course at the University of Hawaii. As
a New Zealander, I have little idea about what it would be like to study in
Hawaii, especially with regard to those critical things like the cost of housing
and living etc. A delightfully reassuring colleague told me that Honolulu is
one of only two cities in the US that is more expensive to live in than New
York (the other apparently being Anchorage).

I would be very grateful if anyone could or would spare some time to let me
know what they think about studying at UoH.

-- Ian Douthwaite
   University of Otago
   Dunedin, NZ
   imd@otago.ac.nz
From: c60b-3kx@web-3d.berkeley.edu (Leor Jacobi)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: College Kid Goes To JAIL, 1/23
Date: 28 Jan 93 08:48:40 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: web-3d.berkeley.edu

By the way, 
It cost me $340 to bail myself out of jail, $200 of which will be returned
to me at my court date, 2/16.
$140 - Ouch!

--
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"Everybody dies frustrated and sad,     |  Leor Jacobi                   ,__o
 and that is beautiful."	        |  leor@ocf.berkeley.edu       _-\_<,
	-They Might Be Giants	        |                             (*)/'(*)
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: mechalas@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (John P. Mechalas)
Subject: Re: Drink ages?
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 04:10:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.010700.25385@news.acns.nwu.edu> mkahn@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Michael Kahn) writes:
>In article <1993Jan23.001115.8789@cs.nott.ac.uk> eeyimkn@unicorn.nott.ac.uk (M. Knell) writes:
>>
>>Does this mean that the campus bar is not such a social centre for students in
>>the US?
>>
>>Cheers, Mike
>>
>
>At Northwestern, the campus bar's official title (I believe) was The
>Gathering Place, although everyone knew it simply as The Bar. The Bar closed
>down last year due to too many underage students getting in and rapidly
>declining attendance, so yes, I would venture to say that a campus bar is not
>such a social centre (unless it doesn't card). There are, however, certain
>off-campus bars that are considered to be hot spots. I think there is somewhat
>of a contradiction in a campus-sponsored bar where the majority of students
>are underage, and that is why off-campus joints seem to be livelier. I'd like
>to hear what anyone else has to say about this.

Here in Indiana, you have to be 21 to even enter a bar, so a lot of the
problems with underage students declining the attendance don't seem to 
apply.  I will admit that bars back in Illinois that admitted underage
people for dancing purposes or whatever (this might have changed since
then) rapidly became underage hangouts, and led to the decline that you
describe above.
   However, I think the one factor that is affecting bar attendance most
of all is simply the number of bars in the area.  If the bar scene gets
popular and two new bars open up, everybody sees a drop in attendance.
   As for off-campus bars, I find them more appealing because I don't have
to deal with the campus crowd that thinks drinking is then end-all and
be-all of life.  You get a better atmosphere, IMHO.  Your mileage may vary.

-- 
John Mechalas                                          "I'm not an actor, but
mechalas@gn.ecn.purdue.edu                                 I play one on TV."
Aero Engineering, Purdue University                     #include disclaimer.h
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: johnwu@netcom.com (John M. Wu)
Subject: Re: <None>
Followup-To: soc.college
Keywords: Comparing comsci
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 06:23:07 GMT

fluffy@vax1.mankato.msus.edu writes:

>Help!
>
>I'm sitting here at MSU (in Minnesota) content with the college I've chosen,
>and all of sudden, my boyfriend (who is an extremely wonderful guy) decides
>that he would like to transfer to a different state.  
>
>We both would like to travel, he just wants to begin now.  He also has the itch
>to get out from under his parents' realm and start fresh somewhere else.
>
>My problem?  I can't find any information on what are the best schools in the
>U.S. for an undergrad in computer science.  I've found a little stuff relating
>to graduate work and individual descriptions on every school around, but
>nothing comparing schools in that particular field.  Even our library doesn't
>have any type of information like this.

You forgot to cosider what consequences you will encounter if you follow
your boyfriend.  This is what may happen: 

1)  Loss of credits due to non-acceptance of transfer units (very likely)
2)  Mandatory residence requirement (if you're already learning 3rd and
    4th year stuff).  Basically, you will need to go through junior and
    senior year again if you have already done so partially.
3)  Higher fees if you are leaving your home state.
4)  Rejection from all good CS schools at the junior level. 
5)  Loss of old friends.  Many life-long friends are made in college.
6)  You may hate the new place, school, or new housing arrangements.
7)  And what happens if you break up with your boyfriend?  You are then
    SOL. 

UCB is a great school to transfer to for an undergrad CS education.  Some
of the other California schools are also good for undergrad CS.  Email
me for pointers on transferring to good CS schools (that's what I did) if
you are still doing this.  

But if I were you, think long and hard.  Don't base your decision to transfer 
solely on your boyfriend.    
 
-- 
John M. Wu                "And if a double decker bus, crashes into us
johnwu@netcom.com          to die by your side, is such a heavenly way to die"
jmw@ocf.berkeley.edu         - There Is A Light That Never Goes Out
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: Credibility and Trueness
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:58:02 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1993Jan25.051224.25468@netcom.com> barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry) writes:

>	Seems Charlie owes me a sheepskin. Ed, here's your clue: 4 dates
>does not constitute a relationship, 

No, but it seems you do qualify for a degree from the Jimmy Dutton
School of Reading Comprehension.

The dictionary defines relationship as follows: a romantic or 
passionate attachment.  No mention of time.

You shouldn't try using big words like that unless you know
what they mean.



Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle)
Subject: Pickups  (Was Re: to a tasteless Aussie.  I accidently deleted you.)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 23:30:29 GMT
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.


Wow, I just found this in alt.tasteless.

Isn't it sweet?

See, no matter what you interest there's always someone for *you*. :-)


>Sorry to take up bandwidth for this.  It's tasteless, I'm tasteless, we're 
>all tasteless, so whatta hell?
>
>This is to the Austrailian who E-mailed me regarding snot and sneezes.
>I meant to answer you , but I accidently deleted you instead. I think
>your name is Chris.
>
>We shared orgasms involving sneezing and the delights of sneezing into
>one's own clothes, and we laughed.
>
>You fingered Catalina, and I was amazed.
>
>You spoke of licking shit from between my toes, and I was intrigued.
>
>And now I've lost you.  And all because I hit the wrong key and
>accidently deleted you.  If you read this, know that I wasn't rejecting
>you.  By the time I realized what I had done it was too late, and now you're
>gone, lost--perhaps forever--in cyberspace. 
>
>You were tasteless.  You were BEYOND tasteless.  And now you have disappeared
>into the abyss.


-- 
    Thomas Beagle | thomas@datamark.co.nz           Work: 64 4 233 8186
 Technical Writer | thomas@cavebbs.welly.gen.nz     Home: 64 4 499 3832
   Wellington, NZ |   A man without a woman is like tea without sugar.
From: rkf@wildrose.uucp (Ray Fink)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Danger, Piglet, Danger! (was Re: Flirting How To Guide/Backrubs)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 13:34:31 -0700
Reply-To: wildrose!rkf@infoserv.com
Organization: Wild Rose Jet Lag Society

eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (Piglet) writes:

>Piglet (who, btw, _doesn't_ have BigHair, _despite_ having moved to NJ)

Doesn't it work like license plates, after you've lived in the
state for a certain period of time you have to register in that
state?  Piglet could have a legal problem here, folks...anybody 
know what the grace period is for NooJoyzy wimmen without BigHair?

-- 
-- Ray
From: weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Talking to shy friends?
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:25:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: jetsun.1993Jan25.202511.12132
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

GEN5021@Husky1.StMarys.Ca (JOHN SAKALAUSKAS) writes:

> Does anyone have any advice about how to communicate effectively with
> friends who are VERY shy, to the point of which they answer questions
> with simple one-word answers. This makes it very difficult to keep
> a form of conversation running smoothly.
>

Most people think of themselves as shy. Basically, what this means
is though they would like your attention, they are afraid that if
you pay attention to them, you will find them wanting, and be 
critical and reject them. You need to win their trust first.
Each time you talk to them, you will have to win their trust 
again, although that should get easier and easier. People tend
to reflect the attitudes of those around them, so you want to
adopt an open and trusting attitude when speaking to the shy
person.

The first thing you want to remember when talking to shy people is
to avoid any negativism. If you start poking fun at other people,
the shy person will expect you will start in on them next. Try 
always to talk in positives. Try to project the attitude that 
you are going to listen acceptingly to whatever the other person
says.

The second thing is to be indirect. Don't start out asking personal
questions. Lead the conversation by asking easy, open ended questions
which will let the other person talk, but will make them focus on
something other than himself. Also, if you can show that you are 
interested in all the people around you, and not just the shy person,
this will help the shy person feel less self-conscious. As the shy
person opens up, you can get a little more personal, but avoid being
more pointed than you have to be.

Don't worry about that the conversation is not going smoothly. Any 
discomfort you feel (and show) will be amplified by the shy person,
so forget about your problems, and try to convince yourself that
nothing bothers you. If the shy person thinks you are making an 
effort to make things easier for them, they will start to trust
you.

Peace,
Michael.
From: diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Trygve's shower
Date: 24 Jan 93 18:48:24 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1993Jan24.072518.4694@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:

>Oh, I imagine I will--but I oughtto warn you that I enjoy having someone
>scrub my front even more.  

I consider myself warned.

>Trygve   (As long as it's done slowly and gently--personally, I think
>          it would border on the criminal to hurry a bath taken in the
>          tub I'm planning.)
>
>P.S.  Hope you don't have anything against "Mister Bubble." 

Slow and gentle sounds fine, although I will say that my loofa sponge
feels awfully good rubbed briskly (though not roughly) all over one's back
and shoulders.  (This may be particularly appealing to me because I have dry
skin which constantly itches, but I've had positive reviews from others
as well).  

			--Diamond

diamond@acpub.duke.edu| We cross our bridges when we come to them and burn
Elizabeth S. Abrams   | them behind us, with nothing to show for our progress 
		      | but the memory of the smell of smoke, and the  
                      | presumption that once our eyes watered. -Tom Stoppard
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Die Fledermaus)
Subject: More Primating
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 06:29:01 GMT

In article 727554344@cs.wisc.edu, rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:
>In <1iqm83INNqnq@FUNCTOR.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU> loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu (Sandra Loosemore) writes:

>>and viewed something that was not a lemur femur.  
>
>Or even a demure lemur femur.

I recall mentioning lemurs once, and that was back in October or
November. How could such an innocent little beastie get into the
popular soc.singles cultural thingie with just a mere mention by me?

Shet!! ***I*** didn't know I controlled you all THAT well. </.Q
                                                ----           \
                             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

dreas

PS. drieux, I checked my meds. Now ***I*** have delusions of 
    grandeur, not to mention ANOTHER new identity!!!!!!!

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft)
Subject: Re: Could be worse (was:
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 00:45:26 GMT

In article <lm0l0hINN5oc@news.bbn.com> pdsmith@bbn.com (Peter D. Smith) writes:

>Canada is the only country in the entire world to ever defeat America
>more than once (and not by a little bit, either; they whipped our butts).
>
>They're also just about the only country in either of the Americas whom
>we haven't managed to invade (succesfully).  We took half of Mexico,
>we partitioned Columbia, landed marines just about everywhere, and even
>controlled Cuba, but we've never managed to do anything to Canada.

Uh, not completely true.  We've pulled the wool over their eyes once or
twice.  One incident I remember concerned the negotiation of the US/Canadian
border.  We gained some land by conceding to Canada some islands (I believe
in Lake Superior) that we knew at the time did not exist.

Heh.  Nice reliable people, the Canadians.  Not too bright, but nice.  Just
the sort you want as neighbors, except for their incipient marital troubles.

RNA

Newsgroups: soc.singles,ba.music
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: Favorite Groups
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:46:04 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1993Jan25.180036.7277@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:

>It's not as if the topic of music hasn't come up on soc.singles many 
>times before (oddly enough without anyone leaping into personal attacks
>on the people discussing the subject)--I've even been inspired by some
>of the comments on the subject made by such notables as Rob Thurlow,
>John Fereira, and Charlie Martin enough to go down to the local record
>store and buy copies of albums they were discussing. 

I very much agree.  You know, on thinking about it, I think what I had
the biggest problem with in David's post was that he made a list almost
designed to preclude discussion with that "Young, Neil" crap (I still
can-fucking-not believe a human being would type it in that way!).  It's
almost like a personal ad - the excusion of open discussion is the
real unwelcome thing.  If I could make my feeble human brain figure out
how David expected anything good and interesting to come out of that
post, I think I'd write a book.

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
"Shouldn't I have this, shouldn't I have this, shouldn't I have all of this,
 and, passionate kisses, passionate kisses, passionate kisses, from you?"
- "Passionate Kisses" Lucinda Williams
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: Re: Meeting women in clubs
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 07:36:56 GMT

tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>laws or liability suits?  (I particularly like this bottle of little
>black pills that are a blend of arsenic and strychnine--it features
>this adorable little note in small print on the side:  "Caution; 
>indiscriminate use may be harmful.") 

This reminds me of a patent medicine diet pill I once heard about.  
It seems that the pill contained tapeworm eggs. 

Unfortunately I haven't been able to find any of these pills lately.  

-- 
"By now I was beginning to think in sound pictures.  There are two very
 distinctive sounds in China, three if you count Richard Clayderman."
 ....................................Douglas Adams, _Last Chance to See_

 (The two sounds are spitting and the Chinese bicycle bell.)
-- 

Kiran Wagle                           <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Credibility and Trueness
Date: 27 Jan 93 23:53:17 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <MARTINC.93Jan27144010@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:

>What a fascinating assertion.  Are you once again speaking ex cathedra
>from your rectum or do you have some logical, if ignorant, argument for
>it?

Psychology denies the existance of free will because its very
existance is incompatible with the concept.  Once you recognize
that human beings have free will, you can explain any human
behavior with one simple explanation: he chose to do it.  All
the ids, egos, superegos, hobgoblins, and supernatural forces
that fill psychology books become superfluous.  (And the writers
of those books lose their source of income.)