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From: s6883289@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Absolutely Chinese)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: MADLY IN LOVE WITH HER!!!!
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:48:16 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

In article <92274.100045U61508@uicvm.uic.edu> <U61508@uicvm.uic.edu> (A____ T___) writes:
>   I have been noticing this girl in my gym class for a while.  Today, I
>made my first move, I ask her to go drink a cup of coffee with me.
>But she told me she couldn't go because she have a class to go to.  Anyway,
>can anyone give me advice of what I should do next?????????
>Is she trying to avoid me or does she really have a class to go to?
>Or maybe she just doesn't like coffee, right?  Please help me out as soon as
>possible.  Thanks!!!!!!
>
>                                               A crazy boy

hear my story:
   i met this girl from my class last fall. she's from nearby school 10 miles
away, so my only hope of seeing her was about class time. i liked her and made
acquantaince with her. the next semester (last spring), i purposely took the 
same class with her, hoping to see her more often. then on valentine's day,
i told her that i loved her and since then, she never talked to me again.
i was really depressed, i began to skip that class all the time and finally
failing that class at the end. frustrated, i started messing up the Internet,
posting lots of ugly articles and cursing people. some idiots complained and i
end up losing my job at the computing center. i spent the whole summer thinking
about her. i wrote poems about her but couldn't have her to read, i have lots 
to say to her, but can't have her to listen. now, another school year has 
started, she's no longer taking any class here. i am working three days a week
and taking a full course load, my hope of seeing her again is even more remote.
i called her but as soon as she picked up the phone, she wanted to hang up. 
i don't know why i am such a turn off to her. i am not very ugly, not very
stupid, not very rude, but my love of her was very sincere, is very sincere 
and will be very sincere. is it because she is extremely smart? extremely
beautiful? extreamely classy? i can't help but wonder what will happen to us
this semester, me in particular.

PS. my loved one, i really hope you're reading this.

- Peter, forever in love with that malaysian chinese girl
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: blblam@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Bernard Lam)
Subject: Nathaniel Branden
Keywords: 
	Hi, everybody!
	I have read several books on psychology by Nathaniel Branden over the last couple years and I enjoy them thoroughly.  (How to Raise Your Self-Esteem; Honoring the Self; The Psychology of Romantic Love; What Love Asks of Us; The Disowned Self; The Power of Self-Esteem; and The Psychology of Self-Esteem.) His approach in understanding human psychology and its philoshpical background (Objectivism) are surely the soundest ones I've ever seen.  
	If you have read his books too and when want to share your thoughts with me, please post in this news group or e-mail me.
	I'm waiting for your response!!
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 23:50:34 GMT
From: glo@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (George Lo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: MADLY IN LOVE WITH HER!!!!
Date: 1 Oct 92 00:59:46 GMT
Organization: Oracle World HQ, Redwood Shores, California
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <BvEHCH.828@nic.umass.edu> s6883289@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Absolutely Chinese) writes:
>In article <92274.100045U61508@uicvm.uic.edu> <U61508@uicvm.uic.edu> (A____ T___) writes:
>
>hear my story:
>   i met this girl from my class last fall. she's from nearby school 10 miles
>away, so my only hope of seeing her was about class time. i liked her and made
>acquantaince with her. the next semester (last spring), i purposely took the 
>same class with her, hoping to see her more often. then on valentine's day,
>i told her that i loved her and since then, she never talked to me again.
>i was really depressed, i began to skip that class all the time and finally
>failing that class at the end. frustrated, i started messing up the Internet,
>posting lots of ugly articles and cursing people. some idiots complained and i

I think a lot of girls would be scared off if the guys is too "direct".
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: lilau@dew.Princeton.EDU (Li Wing Lau)
Subject: Re: Tat Ming Pair (Re: Tat-Ming 1 Pie)
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 20:33:47 GMT

In article <22985@optima.cs.arizona.edu> leoso@cs.arizona.edu (Leo WaiChung So) writes:

>  1.  Shooting Star 			<Whark Sing> 
>  2.  Angels on the Road 		<Ma Lo Tin Si>
>  3.  The Sunset (End) of the Gods 	<Chu Shen Dick Wong Fun>
What album is this song on? 
>  4.  Windless Autumn 			<Mo Fung Dick Chao Qwei>
>  5.  Rear Window 			<Hau Cheung>
>  6.  Tonight the Stars Twinkle		<Gum Ye Sing Kong Chang Lan>
>  7.  Long March 			<Cheung Jing>
>  8.  !?				<Tin Fa Luen Chui>
How about Chaotic shower of heavenly flowers? :)
>  9.  Comrade				<Ton Dong>
>  10. Chaos 				<Luen>
>
>  Cheers,
>  leo.

Cheers, to

Li Wing Lau



Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: klyeung1@eng.ie.cuhk.hk (yeung ka leung)
Subject: Re: Internet access in CUHK
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 01:35:05 GMT

(Spode, God/dess of Chaos) writes:

>In article <80215@ut-emx.uucp>, funnyfin@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu writes:
>> 	How about using the talk program? Will everyone who have an account
>> be able to do electronic-talk with us? Or will they get no access to it? I
>> always talk with my friends thru internet, that save me a lot of long-
>> distance call fee. I have particular favour over ytalk, I once talked with 
>> two people in CUHK and two in HKUST simultaneously. I am now imagining how
>> the screen will be splitted if more people join the talks....
>> -- 

>I can't say what will be happening at CUHK, but I do know that IRC chat will
>soon be available to HKUST.

***  I can tell you that we guys in CUHK could access IRC a YEAR ago.
But it was a difficult task, you know, we downloaded the source code and
compiled it ourselves. Someone made it, and we use it once in a blue
moon. :)
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|  Nightingale, love is the cage.         | Yeung Ka Leung          |
|  I only would open the gate             | klyeung1@eng.ie.cuhk.hk |
|  - let you fly away.    Ka Leung  Aug92 | NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.   |
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: s6883289@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Absolutely Chinese)
Subject: Re: Future of China........
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:18:49 GMT

In article <thomasc.717891265@spider.wri.com> thomasc@spider.wri.com (Thomas Chin) writes:
> tung@ocf.berkeley.edu (Samuel Ka Shun Tung) writes:
>
>>From what I perceived here in the US, I guess in the next century, it
>>will be the world of China (including HK and Taiwan).
>>.
>>.
>>.  ( see original posting )
>
>
>while your vision is likely true, I may not be as optimistic as you are.  
>well, you have ignored one thing - there are fundamental 'human problems' 
>in the asian countries.  the problems root from the collision between 
>eastern and western civilization.  culture, religion, emotion... govern a 
>human mind, disregard how much money one have.  japan is successful; 
>taiwan is successful, but they have serious underlying human problems.  
>japan works because of a stubborn integrity; taiwan works because of a 
>rush of single-mindness.  Both may change, because the people there may 
>change, because, do they know what they are doing??  are they happy??  
>china have even more underlying human problems than the sum of the two - 
>biggest of all, over-populated, following by ambiguity of society, 
>ambiguity of political and economic system, leading to corruption, 
>dishonest, untrusty, and immorality, and then the one-children 
>generation, then the environmental damage...  china would success, but 
>would she become another mindless wealthy little lady, all we can bless 
>is, please, all the good people, we are counting on you.   at the mean 
>time, the talented and disciplined germany is coming back.  I don't know, 
>may be I am too idealistic, but then I don't make money because I want to 
>make money, but that I want to be happy.
>
>
>-Tom

so Tom, are you happy? are the millions of americans/europeans/non-asians 
happy? surely you can't equate financial sercurity with happiness, but it's
immoral to try change their objective when financial security is their utmost
concern. it's only when both people are at the same finanical ground can you
compare who is happier and who is not. i don't know if a chinese (mainland,
taiwan, HK) is happier than an american, but i surely hope he is happier than
he was 10/20/50 years ago.

Xref: sparky soc.culture.hongkong:11784 soc.culture.china:26694 soc.culture.taiwan:14089
From: tylee@austin.ibm.com (Ter-Yuan Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: [song] popular song "Crying Sand"
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:00:06 GMT
Organization: IBM
Originator: tylee@leety.austin.ibm.com


In article <HIEBELER.92Sep30124610@custard.think.com>, hiebeler@think.com (Dave Hiebeler) writes:
> 
> 
>   Do you mean Huang Ying Ying?  I have some songs by her, e.g. "xue3
> zai4 shao1" (snow is burning), "zhi3 you3 fen1 li2" (not sure how to
> translate it -- "only alone"?).
> 

I personally don't listen to her songs. (I have been away from Taiwan for
a long time.) But, to me, "zhi3 you3 fen1 li2" sounds "only to separate".

>   Which album are you talking about?  Which of her albums do people
> think are best?
> 
> --
> Dave Hiebeler                  | hiebeler@think.com
> Thinking Machines Corporation  | (617) 234-4070
-- 
/* The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of IBM's.         *\
 * Take care and have a nice day.                                            *
\* Ter-Yuan Lee                                                              */
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: cfs2b@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Chun Fai Szeto)
Subject: Re: Sorry, here is the REAL chinese chart
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:40:55 GMT

	It is a very good idea to post those charts in Chinese. 
Every people should realize some of the Cantonese translation is
rarely suitable in English.  So please keep doing these Chinese
stuff,  I think most people would agree with me.




Chun
cfs2b@Virginia.edu
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Sunday, 27 Sep 1992 22:26:27 EDT
From: <LWLLG@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: RE: Prettiest Males and Females in HK

What's up, everybody....Recently, I read some mails of discussing who are the
prettiest males or females in HK. Indeed, is the appearance so important to
judge someone else really pretty or not? I question about this! Certainly, to
some extent, appearance can tell you SOME of a person but not the whole......
The conduct, manner, attitude may tell more about one's beauty. It'll be great
if someone has both internal and external beauty.......For this reason, I can't
tell who is the prettiest male or female in HK.

 (P.S. Hope no one will feel offensive.....:) )           - Matt
From: shui@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dreamer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Stand up girls! Re:Why? Why? Now I am telling you why.
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:46:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: ut-emx.80795
Reply-To: shui@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dreamer)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: shui@doc.cc.utexas.edu

Hey Girls,

   It is time for us to say something after reading those stupid and narrowed
mind guys' junk news.

   Why we are always taken as an object by the guys?  We have our right too.
Listen guys!  We are not as passive as our mothers .  If you think you
can control your wives or just as her to do favour for you with no return or
reward, forget it.  

  Love is two ways. Give and take.  Chinese husbands are the most terrible one.
They are very selfish.  Most of them think their jobs in the family is only
to bring money home.  Nothing else!  They don't care about their wives feeling
 or their needs.

  If you think you can hind something behind your wife's back, you are wrong.
Even the most stupid wife will notice what you have been up to.  

  Guys start building up a right attitude to treat female. Otherwise you will besorry.  
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: vli@mpr.ca (Vincent Li)
Subject: Re: Stand up girls! Re:Why? Why? Now I am telling you why.
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 02:08:01 GMT

In article <BvEHHt.867@nic.umass.edu> s6883289@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Absolutely Chinese) writes:
>
>that's true, chinese husbands are the worst and likewise, chinese wifes are
>also the worst. that's why the chinese females i know prefer white guys and the
>chinese guys i know prefer white females.
>
Oh, I see...don't we screw up the white people! Or are they that stupid? 8-)
There is no logic in that, but then, love knows no logic...

-- Vince

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From: leoso@cs.arizona.edu (Leo WaiChung So)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: HK Lyrics (Re: Tat Ming Pair)
Date: 5 Oct 92 01:28:59 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson


  The fire is on again...

In article <1992Oct5.004402.19191@cs.wisc.edu> 
shiu@globey.cs.wisc.edu (Shiu Wong) writes:
>
>	A guy called 'Chow Yiu Fai' wrote nearly all songs for Tat Ming
>	in their <Nerve> album.  He is not a professional.  When you 
>	hear the song <Speaking> (gon yea) over and over again, you find
>	the term <Basic Law> (kei pun fai) all over in the song, but
>	it's kind of 'chopped' off in different parts. 

  Yes. "Kau Kau Shui La Kei Boon Fat" (Begging who to take Basic Lam)
  when reading the first characters of the chorus vertically.

  Personally, I don't like Chow's lyrics much. Too obsure, in short.
  He took over the partnership of Chan Siu Kei with TMP in their 
  last few albums.  He is strong in writing sarcastic and "beautiful"
  songs. Like "Tin Fa Luen Dzui", "Tin Mun" and other songs in <Nerve>.

  I think he is the sole lyric writer for Wong Yiu Ming now...
>
>	Another guy called 'Poon Yun Leung' also featured in Tat Ming's
>	albums very often.  <Ten Boys Putting Out Fire> was his work.

  Well-done piece. 10-1=9, 9-1=8, ...

  Cheers,
  leo.
--
  Leo WaiChung So               Internet : leoso@cs.arizona.edu
  Department of Computer Science    UUCP : uunet!arizona!leoso
  University of Arizona           Bitnet : leoso%cs.arizona.edu@arizona.bitnet
  Tucson, AZ 85721, USA     Keep in Mind : "Look ahead, plan ahead, go ahead."
From: leoso@cs.arizona.edu (Leo WaiChung So)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Tat Ming Pair (Re: Tat-Ming 1 Pie)
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:32:54 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

lilau@dew.Princeton.EDU (Li Wing Lau) writes:
>
>In article <22985@optima.cs.arizona.edu> leoso@cs.arizona.edu (Leo WaiChung So) writes:
>
  [stuff deleted]

>>  3.  The Sunset (End) of the Gods 	<Chu Shen Dick Wong Fun>
>What album is this song on? 

  <Nerve>, 1990. The one with <Questions to Heaven, "Tin Mun"> and 
  <Ranking Not in Order, Left nor Right, Good nor Evil>. IMHO, 
  <The Sunset of the Gods> is a song on Chinese Communist Party, from
  their beginning to now. It is much better than <Questions to Heaven>
  in protesting June 4 TAM event. Not to mention its music is execellent.

>>  8.  !?				<Tin Fa Luen Chui>
>How about Chaotic shower of heavenly flowers? :)
 
  I am thinking of <Prattle> in my original post. Suddenly I think <!?>
  maybe more appropriate. :)

  Cheers to all TMP fans,
  leo.
--
  Leo WaiChung So               Internet : leoso@cs.arizona.edu
  Department of Computer Science    UUCP : uunet!arizona!leoso
  University of Arizona           Bitnet : leoso%cs.arizona.edu@arizona.bitnet
  Tucson, AZ 85721, USA        Quotation : "Look ahead, plan ahead, go ahead."
From: leoso@cs.arizona.edu (Leo WaiChung So)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: HK Lyrics (Re: Tat Ming Pair)
Keywords: Cantonese
Date: 30 Sep 92 07:01:12 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William Lo) writes:
>
  [List of one's favorite songs from TMP deleted]
>
>	Mine(in addition):
>	1. Sheung Lo (On my way) Is the name correct - one of a few songs
>	   written by Wong? Simple. Lyrics are poetic! 
>	2. Nei Wan Oi Or Ma? (Do you still love me?) 
>
>	Their lyrics were always good! Not many cantonese songs nowadays
>	are dressed with good lyrics IMHO. Think so? I reckon writing
>	good cantonese lyrics is a more difficult job than writing good 
>	lyrics in English or Mandarin or Italian(other languages?) You
>	have so many more things to think about(like the rhyme, rhetoric, 
>	etc. which cause tons of restraints tying things into knots). 
>	Anyone here writes cantonese lyrics?  Well, I do and would like 
>	to hear from someone who does that, too. 

  I don't write cantonese lyrics. But I notice that nowadays HK music
  is really weak in lyrics. Compare it with Sam's oldies, most of 
  today's pop hits suck. 

  I agree with you that Cantonese lyric is somewhat more difficult
  because we have nine accents. But we have one advantage (?) in having
  two ways to say our meaning in songs, i.e. Spoken Cantonese and 
  written Chinese. I would say HK music can be more flexible in 
  choosing words, and should not be limited to a few *standard* words 
  like "Po Yung" (hug), "Bing Dung" (cold), "Sun Kui" (body), "Bay Wan" 
  (arm), "Yung Mun" (hug and kiss), "Tong Ha" (lay down) ... to name a 
  few.

  What's wrong? The first reason I can think of is that we write (or 
  copy) songs before writing lyrics. So to a certain extent the room for
  choosing words is limited. Taiwan songs do the opposite in that they
  write lyrics before making melody for it. (My Taiwan roommate just
  couldn't believe it when I told him our way.) One exception is Wang
  Jie whose both Mandarin and Cantonese songs are good in lyrics.

  Another reason maybe that the Chinese education in HK is not enough.
  Not many secondary schools teach how to balance the "Ping Tsak" and 
  the exposure to *useful* Chinese Literature is not enough. (BTW, is 
  "San Man 3 Si" still in the cirriculum of School Cert? :) 

  The last reason may be there are not enough lyric writers in HK. (Low
  Pay?) The surviving writers are just producing "Hong For", using those
  standard, meaningless words. Our generation becomes used to this "Hong 
  For" and just adhere to those standard words in mind and then repeatedly 
  carry it forward... What a viscious cirle.

  What do our netter think?

  leo.
--
  Leo WaiChung So               Internet : leoso@cs.arizona.edu
  Department of Computer Science    UUCP : uunet!arizona!leoso
  University of Arizona           Bitnet : leoso%cs.arizona.edu@arizona.bitnet
  Tucson, AZ 85721, USA     Keep in Mind : "Look ahead, plan ahead, go ahead."
From: cs_rayhy@uxmail.ust.hk ("siu" YEN YEN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: OPEN JUDGEMENT OF A "COLOR WOLF"
Date: 6 Oct 92 02:45:09 GMT
Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology

In article <1992Oct3.034146.25262@uxmail.ust.hk> bi_kin@uxmail.ust.hk (HoiFung JACK @>-`) writes:
>
>Can any netters answer me the following question:
>
>Assume there is a "color wolf" - undergrad, in a university who sexally 
>disturbs girls frequently, is it fair for us to judge him openly in front of
>all the students and "dot his face" to the public?!
>

Any sexual harassment office in UST?
BTW, who is he? Is that the one with his lower part naked, walking in B1??

>Or if it is better to tackle this matter secretly, maybe send him to
>a social worker?!  And leave some space for this satyr?!
>
>Welcome for any prompt comments! :)
>
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From: dyko@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Darren Yiu Ming KO)
Subject: Re: Who Are You?
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: world,local
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 13:35:56 GMT

lilau@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Li Wing Lau) writes:

>In article <1992Sep20.182535.3727@arizona.edu> wongcj@evax2.engr.arizona.edu writes:
>>  Hello .. Who Are You?
>>
>	Hello, too.  I am Li Wing Lau.
>	:)

	Well well. Didn't know you read this too :) Methinks you 
	still remeber me after all these months don't you?
	I'm just curious who started this "Who are you?"
	Do you know this person? 
	
	Anyway, good to hear from you...


May thy fortunes go with thee.

Darren				 dyko@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au 
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From: gho@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Grace Ho)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Prettiest Male
Date: 1 Oct 92 05:16:00 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania




I agree...Andy Lau has to be the best looking actor
for now.  I mean, yeah, i agree that he's not that
great looking when he smiles but he's pretty handsome
otherwise.  As for Chow Yun Fat...he's not bad b/c
he's tall but he has a tendency to be a little 
round....right?  I mean, have you seen him recently?
He looks soooo old!