From: morphy@cco.caltech.edu (Jones Maxime Murphy)
Subject: Whites-the aristocracy of the South
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 23:18:13 GMT

casper@vxcrna.cern.ch (CASPER,DAVI./PPE) writes:

>>Nah, and miss trashing you clueless dodos? No way, even raking in the millions
>>can wait...

>Listen dudesicle, while you're counting beans all day, I'm studying the
>fundamental forces of the universe here.  And since I get paid in Swiss Francs,
>probably taking more to the bank on Friday too (at least for the moment) - get
>the picture Holmes?

Probably not, old boy. You evidently don't know much about investment banking,
do you. Well, at least you're consistent, if ignorant.

The fundamental forces of the universe I live in are greed and ethnocentrism,
not the ones carried by gluons, Z's, W's, photons or gravitons. Ethnic groups
reign supreme over gauge groups, out here in the real world.

>Gee, this is pretty weak Murphy.  I blast you and the best you can do is
>"same to you buddy"?

No, but it's good enough for you. Why waste pearls on a swine?

>>Hey, the pretty white lady sitting next to me says you're dead wrong, sucker.

>Guess we have to take your word for that one.  You've already shown us you
>have an overactive imagination; are you sure your fantasies aren't getting the
>better of you?

Yeah, just like they made me imagine that the Civil War was the biggest internal
conflict in U.S. history. You, on the other hand, have a lock on reality. NOT!!

>How shall we test this?  SAT scores? (naw, all contrived as part of the white
>conspiracy)  Writing awards?  (naw, all the ones I've won were probably just
>because of colonialism and slavery).  I guess the last one standing wins.

My SATs were perfect, kiddo. And you didn't have me to compete with when you 
won those silly awards.

>Does it occur to you that the more you have to insist how brilliant and
>articulate you are, the more it actually convinces people otherwise?

No, not at all, since I never have to insist. It's crystal clear to the people
who are at my rarefied stratum. One to which, unfortunately, you cannot
realistically aspire.:)

>>No, actually. It sounds like I'm going to straighten you out, just like I said.

>Wow.  I blasted you again, and this time, you just stood there and took it.  I
>think you're headed for the canvas face first, champ.

Dream on. The only canvas I'm headed for is my hammock in back of my
Caribbean house.

>Wow, so Africans have achieved nothing positive since colonialism.  I mean, at
>least they produced _you_, right?

Unfortunately, I'm part Euro. But nobody's perfect, as you are all too painfully
aware.

>Of course, all the suffering and misery in Africa couldn't have anything to do
>with adopting cockamamie Marxist ideology and economic policy, tinpot despots
>living in palaces with fleets of Rolls Royces parked outside, endless tribal
>warfare and ethnic animosity, and massive military spending.  No, it was all the
>Europeans' fault. 

Yes, for raping countries dry, then tossing them aside with virtually no 
infrastructure. A recipe for disaster with deadly consequences.

>Bad news, old chap.  You already fell in.  If it's no different, why is it
>special?  

I never said it was, old man. European and American slavery is as savage and
brutal as any other. It is the denial syndrome affecting many here in this
group that makes a relatively unremarkable historical phenomenon special.

>>>3) Western Europe.  Does this include nations like Switzerland, Sweden, Poland, 
>>>etc. who did not amass overseas colonies?  Does it include the Slavs and Greeks 
>> 
>>Sweden did have overseas colonies.

>.. he says, ignoring the others like Switzerland and Germany who did not.
>Sweden never colonized Africa or the Americas.  Maybe you mean the Vikings.

I said Sweden did have overseas colonies. I've refuted your entire argument.
Germany colonized what is now Namibia. I don't know what they're teaching you
kids these days.

>>Spain and Portugal were vastly enriched by the empires! They were fearsome
>>economic and military powers in their brutal heyday. Their collapse was due to
>>incompetent economic policies, not to "their empires".

>..he says, ignoring the question about Italy.  Gee at least he acknowledges
>(implicitly) for the first time that there is more to history than African
>slavery.

Italy brutally attacked Ethiopia. They conquered the north(Eritrea), but were
crushed at the battle of Addowa(1880 or so). They enslaved the inhabitants and
imposed apartheid and slavery. Furthermore, they drove a wedge between
Eritreans and other peoples of the Horn by treacherous intruigues. They milked
Eritrea dry starting from a time when Italy itself was barely a country!
(NOt that it is much of a country now.)

Not satisfied, these greedy racist Europeans attacked again in 1938/39, and
conquered the bulk of Ethiopia, extending colonialism throughout the country.

>"to say the least" ... "to say the least".  You got a stutter or something
>Shakespeare?


You keep repeating my words. I graciously acknowledge that imitation is the 
sincerest compliment.

>Again, though, a victory.  You acknowledge that maybe, just maybe, the history
>and achievements of half a continent can't be summed up in one sentence.  I'm
>finally straightening you out.

Not one sentence, one word:criminal.

>Yes, I suppose it is hard to say whether it was, oh 85% or 90% instead.

That's racist fantasizing. Prove it.

>>It is much clearer that Europeans appropriated the fruit of other people's
>>work, including their inventions.

>Yeah, and the Russians invented the automobile too.  Reality-check time dude.

Yes, and you've checked out into another dimension:The White-White Zone.

>>>Oh I see.  Since you think this group exists purely for your enjoyment, maybe
>>>we should change its name to alt.gratification.self.jones.murphy
>> 
>>Wow. A group devoted to my masturbation techniques.

>Actually, quite an apt analogy for your postings.  Here, at least, you score a
>point in verbal skills.

Hey, what about manual dexterity??

>>>You know Jones, from your attitude, you probably would have made a good slave
>>>merchant.  I'm glad to see from your .sig that at least you've found the next
>>>closest thing...
>> 
>>...Well, I'm a worthy descendant of slave merchants. And I think I've found my
>>first cargo. C'mere, Dave baby...

>Maybe it wouldn't be so bad...at least that way all my problems would be
>somebody else's fault, right?

Yeah, mine!:)
Jones
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