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From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Unsafe/safe,Unsafer/safer,Unsafest/safest
Date: 24 Jan 93 16:28:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: macc.1993Jan24.162805.23016
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison

In article <brsmith.727834695@duncan>
brsmith@duncan.cs.umn.edu (Brian R.  Smith) writes:

>  "The Jojo Fan Club"
>  "Friends of Jojo"
>  "Jojo's Love Slave Wannabes"
>  "Those Who Wait for the Coming of Jojo"
>  "Viva Jojo"
>  "Fans of the Conceptual Daddy"

>Who wants to join?

Jojo, probably.

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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Subject: Re: Soc.motss Reorganization - VOTING BEGINS!
Followup-To: soc.motss
Originator: lunde@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Reply-To: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Organization: Ministry of Silly Walks
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:20:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.165125.19353@exu.ericsson.se>
 exukev@exu.ericsson.se (Kevin Autrey) writes:

>--- Proposal # 12 ----------------------------------------------------------
[...]
>soc.queer.bi: basically the same old soc.bi, minus announcemnts.
>
[...]

This proposal (or at least this interpretation) should be excluded,
since soc.bi is *NOT* participating in the reorganization, and
has not shown any interest in doing so.

This is not to say that a bi-inclusive view of the charter of soc.motss.*
or whatever, is unwelcome.  I see little reason for exclusive seperatism
in this context, and bisexuals do presently participate in soc.motss.

At the same time soc.bi is doing quite well (in a sometimes fluffy, 
*hug*-filled way) as a seperate electronic "community". I see no
reason to mix it up with the motss reorganization other than to
satisfy orthogonal-namespace queens. (Even if the root name changes
to soc.lesbigay or soc.queer.)

You may say I want to have it both ways -- well that's what being bi
is about, isn't it! <grin>

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 Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu |  Bisexual   |      *Y*        tree of life"
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From: an104@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ric Helton)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Prodigy/Genie/et. al.
Date: 26 Jan 1993 03:39:06 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: an104@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ric Helton)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


If you are on GEnie, please make sure you drop in on the Public Forum
RoundTable, where we have two Categories of topics devoted to
Gay-Lesbian-Bisexual Issues. Category 16 is a public debate area, and
Category 19 is a private lesbian and gay "safe space" where, even thuogh
we admit our heterosexual friends, we do not allow bashers or anti-gay
slurs. I am the sysop over both Categories, and we have some great
debate and discussion, and a great family of friends....

On GEnie, type MOVE 545;1 from anywhere to get to the forum. Write
to me on GEnie by addressing mail to GRAFFITI.


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From: U52885@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: HELP: White House E-MAIL Address
Date: 24 Jan 93 19:27:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: uicvm.93024.132716U52885
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

Does anyone out there know the E-MAIL address for the White House?

Clinton had an E-MAIL address in Little Rock before the transition, but
it seems that address is no longer valid.


_______________________

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University of Illinois/Chicago (standard disclaimers)
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From: tim@ear-ache.mit.edu (Tim Wilson)
Subject: Re: Clinton is President, Bush is not even history
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 11:09:19 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.204139.29513@netcom.com> solovay@netcom.com
(Andrew Solovay) writes: 

   Not an English march at all. The Monty Python theme song is John
   Philip Sousa's "Liberty Bell March", which is about as American as
   apple pie.

(I will read all posts before posting.  I will read ...)

Oops!  So, "The Major Dooley March" (mentioned elsewhere) is probably
that horrible whistling tune from Bridge over the River Kwai.  As
performed by Jackson Browne.  

I remain corrected.

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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rjwill6@pbsdts.sdcrc.pacbell.com (Rod Williams)
Subject: Yeaaa Senator John Kerry (D-Mass.)!
Originator: rjwill6@pbsdts.sdcrc.pacbell.com
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, California
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:00:58 GMT


Even as I type, Senator Kerry is on the Senate floor, making
the best speech I've ever heard from a U.S. congressperson on
the issue of sexual orientation and the right of gays and
lesbians to serve in the military!
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From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: Soc.motss Reorganization - VOTING BEGINS!
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 04:08:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.174750.25337@news.columbia.edu>
jsb16@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jennifer S Broekman) writes:

>Aren't these proposals supposed to go through news.groups?

This preliminary voting within the cohort is to establish
the content of a formal proposal to be submitted to the
news.groups discussion and voting process.

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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: lovegod@wam.umd.edu (Donald Andrew Agarrat)
Subject: Re: Tim Chain Porn (Re: High School Athletes (lusher))
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:10:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.172206.14782@spdcc.com> joe@spdcc.com  
(Joseph Francis) writes:
[much porn deleted]
} "What kind of shit is that" the manager said, rolling the head  
of Tim's cock between his fingers while Tim whimpered and felt  
his hips twitch.  The side of his neck was now drenched with  
precum, and he felt his shirt sticky as the obscenely bloated  
cock of the system manager lay like a fat salami across his neck  
and near his cheek, rubbing gently. He felt that he couldn't  
even get his hand around it if he wanted to, to push it away.  
Getting more nervous, he finally grabbed the manager's hand,  
pulling it away, and started to turn around in his chair. That's  
when he noticed that no one was left in the lab. It was 4am,  
after all. The system managers cock strained at the edge of the  
shorts, one ball flopped out of each pant leg, and with a big  
knuckled hand the manager skinned it back and the huge purple  
head popped out, almost steaming. A wave of the sex smell rolled  
over Tim, and he felt faint.
} 
} What was Tim to do? He stuttered gently, "I want your cock," 
} then closed his eyes and reached out.

At that precise moment, Capt. Picard ordered Wesley to transport  
Tim and the VAX systems programmer (really a Kardassian with a  
good plastic surgery job) directly to his ReadyRoom.  Capt.  
Picard and Commander Riker entered and watched Tim suck and lick  
on the fat, tube-like cock of the VAX guy for a while, before  
Riker lunged for them.  "No!", Capt. Picard exclaimed before  
holding Riker back.  "We must not violate the Prime Directive!   
We don't know who these two men are!  We must allow them to  
express themselves freely!"  Tim heard this and almost laughed,  
but decided to play along.  He playfully beckoned Capt. Picard.   
Riker reported, "Sir, it seems as if he's trying to communicate  
with you."  Picard definitely noticed.  "Ah, Will, I think it  
would be in the best interest of the Federation if I made first  
contact - alone.  Besides, you're beginning to sound like Data",  
Picard said ominously.  Riker winked and left at that very  
moment Picard turned to Tim's smiling face.
From: jmp8p@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Jeannine Marie Pinto)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Contacting the White House
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:19:02 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

Does the White House have a FAX number?  And how about an email
address?

jeannine, who doesn't have an automatic redial and can't seem to
get through to the powers that be
Xref: sparky soc.motss:58484 rec.martial-arts:17427
From: mmwx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: soc.motss,rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Homosexuals in martial arts (H I M A)
Date: 26 Jan 93 07:58:28 EST
Distribution: rec,soc
Organization: Cornell University

In article <C1E7u0.Ew4@mach1.wlu.ca>,
psop4@mach1.wlu.ca (paul sop u) writes: 
> Looking for information on a group called H.I.M.A. (Homosexuals In Martial
> Arts).  It's suppose to based either in Chicago or in San Diego and is
> helping to organize the martial arts competition for the Unity Games in
> 1994.  Any details would be appreciated.

The address I have (from a flyer I got last summer) is:

                        HiMA!
                        PO Box 590601
                        San Francisco, CA 94159-0601

Send $10 to David Lebovitz to join, and receive quarterly newsletter.

                   Meredith (mmw@lns61.tn.cornell.edu)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Hoovering (was Re: Tim Chain Porn)
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 06:13:50 GMT


In article <727704238snx@drummond.demon.co.uk>
graeme@drummond.demon.co.uk (Graeme Hillary) writes:

>In article <1993Jan21.190006.12270@unocal.com>
>stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini) writes:

>>There is a whole generation of 20-something computer
>>hackers that have never seen a VAX.

>I'm twenty-something and I know what a VAX is -- it's a
>combined carpet shampoo-er and vacuum cleaner!  I've got
>one.  :-)

Take it from one who's seen him doing it, he's the very
model of domesticity when he's doing his hoovering.  And
(dare I say it?) quite adorable, too.

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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: tdbear@dvorak.amd.com (Thomas D. Barrett)
Subject: Re: Deep Space Nine: Queer Cardassians?
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 14:42:22 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.173559.5449@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dbrownfi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Doug Brownfield) writes:
>I don't know...he reminds me of alot of guys I see every time I go out...
>pretty, over-reactive, and not too bright.

Oh come now... he might appear to be a little dim, but he is suppose
to be a Doctor... albeit a Doctor on DS:9 :)
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From: walsh@optilink.COM (Mark Walsh)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: safe sex question
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:22:38 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <1993Jan22.122110.15961@spdcc.com>, joe@spdcc.com (Joseph Francis) writes:
> In article <14016@optilink.COM> walsh@optilink.COM (Mark Walsh) writes:
>>From article <C160FC.50v@fig.citib.com>, by glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson):
>>> In article <1jhibuINNrs6@meaddata.meaddata.com>, ptb@meaddata.com (Patrick Bell) writes:

#># |> If you knew you were HIV- and you knew your sex partner (lover, fuck buddy,
#># |> tearoom trick, whatever) was HIV+ and he wanted you to suck his cock w/o
#># |> a condom, would you?

#>> Yes.

#>Well Greg, it sure has been nice knowing you!

> Expected response #2. Still waiting for three more on my list. I hope
> Patrick Bell is pleased with the teeth-grinding that such a seemingly
> innocuous and wholly irresponsible question might produce.

Three more what?  And Patrick, how dare you ask those
wholly irresponsible questions!  1/2 :-)

> I'm also beginning to wonder about the truth of what they say about
> optilink.

And what is it that (the proverbial) *they* say about Optilink?
Please, let the truth be known!

Cheers -- Mark
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: brsmith@duncan.cs.umn.edu (Brian R. Smith)
Subject: Re: Unsafe/safe,Unsafer/safer,Unsafest/safest
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 00:18:15 GMT

In <1993Jan23.172700.1543@wam.umd.edu> lovegod@wam.umd.edu (Donald Andrew Agarrat) writes:

>Can I have your autograph?
>*holds out a pen and pad*
>Huh?  Please?
>Donald - Oh my God.  Jojo is becoming one of my idols.
>         Somebody call the police ...

We should form a fan club.  We could chase after him when he's in the US,
barking and woofing, groupie-like.

We could collect a library of all known Jojo postings, and index and
cross-reference them.  (A 1.5meg flat file is annoyingly difficult to
locate quotes in, and I only started collecting three years ago.)

We could establish a mailing list to (discreetly) explain the more
obscure references in Jojo's postings to unread people like me, so that
we can say, "Oh, of course."

Oh, and maybe even tour groups, to show quiescent homebody homos around
those bits of Paris that Jojo writes about, and translate the
propositions made in dark corners, under streetlights, etc.

What would we call ourselves?

  "The Jojo Fan Club"
    Far too pedantic for anything having to do with Jojo.

  "Friends of Jojo"
    No, too presumptuous.

  "Jojo's Love Slave Wannabes"
    Too accurate for some, not applicable to others who want him just for
    his mind.

  "Those Who Wait for the Coming of Jojo"
    Hmmm.  Better.  But it betrays a geeky reference to the HitchHiker's
    Guide to the Galaxy.

  "Viva Jojo"
    Would work well on logos and buttons, at least.

  "Fans of the Conceptual Daddy"
    Would require cabal approval, of course.

(Hmmm.  To do this well, I should learn French and expand my readings
beyond trashy SciFi and smut.  But that would take too long, so I'll just
post this to the net and see if I can trap minds far more intricate than
mine into inventing these silly names...)

Who wants to join?
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From: coren@speed.osf.org (Robert Coren)
Subject: Re: finding each other at MOW... an idea
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:23:02 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.110935.2156@midway.uchicago.edu>, milr@quads.uchicago.edu (mark ryan miller) writes:

> Well I've just started thinking of getting my boyfriend to go
> with me, but don't know if he has much vacation time.  I've 
> been hearing that "get your rooms now" and of how crowded it's
> going to be, so am wondering if I should bother going.
> But, I've never been to something like this, and I was out
> before my boyfriend was.

I called and made my reservations today. It didn't sound like hotel
space was desperate yet (although *cheap* hotel space might be). I
don't know what flights to/from Chicago are like.

P.S. In case anyone cares: John and I are going to be there from early
Friday evening (flight arrives around 5:30, I think) until early
Sunday evening (7:00 departure). We're staying at the Hotel Washington
(downtown). What are folks planning for Saturday?
From: rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Conflict on Clinton Order Story
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:23:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: queernet.C1H1Mr.Cts
Organization: QueerNet

In article <memo.891425@cix.compulink.co.uk> dbailey@cix.compulink.co.uk writes:
>TMCCART3@ua1vm.ua.edu (Tracey McCartney) writes:
>> Congressqueer Barney Frank's niece is good friend of mine, and
>> she told me yesterday that Frank was getting faxes at his office
>> on Inauguration Day from the Clinton people about the policy --
>> one read, "The question (of sexual orientation) will not be
>> asked." She said he probably leaked a lot of that stuff to the
>> press. I hope that sheds a little light on the situation...
>
>Actually I confuses me a little.  Could you expand a bit?
>
>Why was he getting lots of faxes from the Clinton people about
>the policy, and especially why would one read "The question (of
>sexual orientation) will not be asked."?  Was that an assertion,
>or an instruction?  I'm not sure why they would feel able to
>assert what the press would ask, unless they had briefed the
>press in some other manner.

The fax meant that "the question will not be asked" of recruits by the
Armed Forces.
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From: john@zygot.ati.com (John Higdon)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: FRUSTRATION!
Date: 26 Jan 93 01:06:59 GMT
Organization: Green Hills and Cows

I am periodically reminded by friends of the time we went to Quement
Electronics to buy some odds and ends for a radio station. There was a
new clerk who caught my eye as we entered the store. Check that; I was
instantly in lust and if I had X-ray vision, he would have had holes
burned in him.

In the process, I tripped over the battery display near the door and
fell into the cassette rack. The resulting chain reaction demolished
most of the area near the cash registers. What an embarassment!
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From: buckmr@rs6421.ecs.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: ALL ELEVEN STATES: a person in Iowa
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:03:31 GMT

weaverli0469@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

>As a person that has just come out, the note "ALL ELEVEN states ..." has got me
>in an uproar. What does that exactly mean for me as a peoson from Iowa? I guess
>I'm appauled at the mentality of the people in my state that would put forth
>such garbage. I mean where do they get off telling me what I can and can't
>do??? This has really upset me, and you can bet that people are going to hear
>about it. I'm just getting comfortable with the thought of my being attracted
>to the same sex, and I don't want ANYBODY to take that away from me by
>dictating what I can and can't do in public etc.  Anyway, can someone fill me
>in on the specifics of this and what it means... I really need to know. Thanks
>:) lotsa E-HUGS going out to all that need them. 

Well, contact your local g/l statewide organisation [if one exists], or you
can contact NGLTF's new FIGHT THE RIGHT co-ordinator, Scot Nakagawa at:



FIGHT THE RIGHT
522 S.W. 5th Avenue, #1375
Portland, OR 97204

Attn: Scot Nakagawa
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From: fisher@ncselxsi.uucp (Chuck Fisher)
Newsgroups: soc.motss,ba.motss
Subject: Re: Straight spouses on ABC's 20/20
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:25:56 GMT
Organization: National Computer Systems, San Jose, CA 95131

In article <1993Jan19.055650.20772@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>Well, _gosh_: I mean these were the issues for these (mostly) women.
>As they said, for the gay spouses in this feature, it was "win/win"--
>they're still on good terms with their ex-wives and they get new lovers
>too (one comes with the queer card, apparently.)  The wives were mostly
>still recovering from the shock and living alone.

Well, I did have a lover lined up when I separated from my ex-wife
four years ago, but he has gone on to greener pastures...  :-)  My
ex-wife and I remain on good terms and communicate a couple of times a
week.

Chuck
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From: rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams)
Subject: Re: Any word on military ban yet?
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, California
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:04:35 GMT

> twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>> rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams) writes:

>>Today's (1/21/93) New York Times reported (on the front page)
>>that Clinton aides told them that Clinton will ask Defense
>>Secretary Les Aspin to prepare an executive order for his
>>signature "sometime in the next few months."
>
>Rod: an editorial you transcribed from the NYT argued that it would be
>a bad move, symbolically at least, for Clinton to order Aspin to do
>the deed.  So does this mean that Clinton will issue the executive
>order, or that Aspin will?  And does it really make much of a
>difference, since Clinton is known to be behind the order anyway?

Only the President can issue an Executive Order.  Clinton is
telling Aspin to come up with a plan that satisfies both the
military and gay concerns, and to do it lickety-split.  But
Clinton himself will sign the order.  I think it does make a
difference that the President himself signs the order -- sends
a much stronger message.  The Presidency is all about symbols,
if you hadn't noticed.

It came out yesterday that the Pentagon will be "informally"
instructed next week to stop asking recruits about their
sexual orientation, and to drop all investigations and
firings of suspected G/L folk.
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From: gpb@gpb-mac (greg berryman )
Subject: Re: Telephone calls for national politics
Organization: SPS
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:34:18 GMT

nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
: Am I the only one who is disgusted by this latest game in politics,
: thousands of citizens telephoning various people in Washington DC and
: registering their "vote" for or against the ban on queers in the
: military?
: 
: I'm not saying that we shouldn't call. We don't have a choice - other
: folks are already playing the game, so we have to make our own calls.
: 
: But what the hell? The news media are reporting the "tallies of calls
: for or against" like they were votes or scientific polls or something.
: 
: Is this what's meant by interactive government?
:                 __
: nelson@reed.edu \/                   There is absolutely no other possibility

No, but it is an example of knee-jerk government.
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