From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
Subject: Re: Serdar Argic (was Re: Meanwhile, back at news.admin.policy)
Date: 23 Dec 92 15:59:26 GMT
Organization: Delco Electronics Corp.

In article <1h8q31INN7v0@agate.berkeley.edu> jbuck@messier.berkeley.edu (Joe Buck) writes:
>I think that with only one person doing it, kill files are a reasonable
>solution for now (which is why I agree just barely).  But what happens
>when there are twenty people doing it, with half of them on complete
>auto-pilot?  What happens when the auto-posting programs start going into
>positive feedback against each other?  (Have I predicted the death of the
>net yet? :-)

This has been tried in the past; and even today. Today's Argic catch was
29 messages totalling around 3000 lines. Not bad. 

But perhaps the best example of ARGIC.EXE was in this message posted a
while back in soc.wherever:

# From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
# Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek, etc
# Subject: Chicken, Turkeys, and the exposure of MUTLU.EXE
# Date: 15 Nov 1992 13:49:16 -0600
# Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
# Lines: 92
# Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
# Message-ID: <199211151948.AA07671@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com>
# NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu
# 
# sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) (in reality Hasan B-) Mutlu) writes:
# 
# > In article <9211121551.AA07842@kocrsw06.delcoelect.com> c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) writes:
# 
# >>Dhladh otan emeis sfazoume thn gallida (turkey) ta Xristougenna h 
# >>cotopoulo (chicken) otan themeliwnoume spiti (gia to kalo!) eimaste
# >>barbaroi? Gia ta provata epishs?
# >
# >Source: "Ruslara Gore Ermenilerin Turklere Yaptiklari Mezalim - Russian
# >        View on the Atrocities Committed by the Armenians against the
# >        Turks" by Doc. Dr. Azmi Suslu, Ankara Universitesi Basimevi,
# >        Ankara, 1987.
# >
# >p. 38.
# >
# >Picture: Ermeni mezalimine ugrayan masum Turk halkinin katlinden
# >         sonra karlar uzerine terk edilen cesetleri.
# 
# A bit of background; a few days back someone mentioned the possibility
# of Mutlu truly using a keyword searching program to respond; I decided
# to test it. I posted the following message, in scg alone, in reference
# to a new law in south Florida that prohibits animal sacrifice for
# religious or other purposes. (true story from NPR last week)
# 
# Here's the original article:
# 
# # From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
# # Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
# # Subject: Paranoikos Nomos!
# # Message-ID: <9211121551.AA07842@kocrsw06.delcoelect.com>
# # Date: 12 Nov 92 15:51:49 GMT
# # 
# # Gia na mhn nomizoume oti oi nomoi ths Elladas einai palavoi. Molis
# # diavasa oti kapou stis HPA apagoreuontai oi thysies zwwn gia thriskeutikous
# # logous. (douleia den eixame...)
# # 
# # Dhladh otan emeis sfazoume thn gallida (turkey) ta Xristougenna h 
# # cotopoulo (chicken) otan themeliwnoume spiti (gia to kalo!) eimaste
# # barbaroi? Gia ta provata epishs?
# # 
# # Megallh trella. Basika auto to mhnhma einai dolwma na dw an o fterwtos 
# # filos mou einai teleiws automatos h to kanei me to xeri. An dhte apanthsh
# # paei na pei oti psaxnei gia lekseis kleidia (na re orologia :-)). 
# # 
# # Spiros
# # --
# # Spiros Triantafyllopoulos                    "I don't want to make money,
# # c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com                 I just want to read News..."
# 
# Mutlu, this time you've outdone yourself. Here's a translation in Greek:
# 
# ST> [Title of article] Paranoid law!
# 
# ST> Just so that we don't think Greek laws make no sense, I just read that
# ST> somewhere in the USA the law prohibits sacrifices of animals for
# ST> religious reasons (busybodies...)
# 
# ST> So, whenever we slay a turkey for Christmas or a chicken whenever we
# ST> pour the foundation of a house [Greek custom in some areas ]
# ST> are we barbarians? How about sheep? 
# 
# ST> Great craziness. Basically this message is bait to see if our
# ST> feathered friend is totally automatic or he does it manually. If you
# ST> see a reply [to this message] that means that he searches for key
# ST> words (here's terminology :-)). 
# 
# ST> Spiros
# 
# Of course, to anyone knowing how to read/write Greek, the last
# paragraph was a dead giveaway that this was a Mutlu bait, which of
# course he swallowed with the line and reel.  (Just like he did the one
# regarding soc.culture.jewish a few months back). If only "Argic" knew
# how to read/write Greek...
# 
# Mutlu, do all of us a favor. Post your crap but don't interfere in
# legitimate discussions. It is not my fault that you get trigger happy
# when one references certain members of the poultry family.  It is
# approaching Thanksgiving now, what are you going to do, send e-mail to
# all the groceries telling them to rename their turkeys to
# Thanksgivingpoultry or Christmasbird?  Are you going to write letters
# to the editors? Are you going to flame people in rec.cooking for
# posting turkey or chicken recipes? Are you going to picket Butterball
# Turkey Inc. or Kentucky Fried Chicken?
# 
# So Hasan B-) Mutlu (we all know where you work now, no need to repeat)
# turn off MUTLU.EXE so we can all live in peace.
# 
# Spiros
# --
# Spiros Triantafyllopoulos                    "I don't want to make money,
# c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com                 I just want to read News..."



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