From: williamf@umbc4.umbc.edu (TheBigBopper)
Subject: Re: Will someone tell me the truth?
Keywords: lies truth taxes
Organization: Univ. of MD, Baltimore County
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:22:48 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.124638.27676@tamsun.tamu.edu> fred@johnd.tamu.edu (Fred Seals 5-2298) writes:
>In article <1992Sep5.034853.27507@wri.com>, walsh@spider.wri.com (Jerry Walsh) writes:
>|> In article <1992Sep4.123555.11553@tamsun.tamu.edu> fred@johnd.tamu.edu (Fred Seals 5-2298) writes:
>|> >The truth is:
>|> >
>|> [biased and broad general characterizations of two major parties]
>|> 
>|> [Now, about Bill Clinton, I presume:]
>|> 
>|> >He did inhale. 
>|> 
>|> How do you know?
>
>	Ever smoked.  If you are in a room with dope you have to breath.

  I was invited out to a car by a girl I was interested in to smoke a joint.
  I had never smoked pot before or since.  When the joint was handed to me
  I took a drag, held it in my mouth for a bit, and as casually as I could I
  blew the smoke thru the open window.  I repeated this three times never once
  inhaling the smoke.  If 15 yrs. ago Clinton was as nervous about smoking
  pot-something he had never tried before-as I was at the time I believe him
  when he says he didn't inhale.  I know I didn't then and subsequently I have
  said the same thing as he did when asked if I haver ever smoked marijuana.
  
>
>|> 
>|> >He lied about the draft.
>|> 
>|> I do not think so.  What was the lie?
>
>	The man was drafted.  He then went applied to the ROTC after he was inducted.
>	These are facts.
  
   But he didn't lie about it.  The facts more completely are, 1/ he applied to
   to the Naval Reserve Officer Corps and failed the physical examination. 
   2/ After completing G'town he went off to Oxford where his draft notice
   caught up with him after the report date.  3/  He then contacted the
   Arkansas ROTC program and promised to enroll in the Law school there after
   finishing Oxford and on that basis he received a deferrment.  4/  Just
   before he returned to the US he changed his mind, wrote the now infamous 
   letter and submitted his name to the draft lottery. 
   Whatever can be said about his intentions I am a loss to understand why 
   anyone would critize the man for doing the best he could to complete his 
   education above all.  You must remember that by placing his name into the
   lottery there was a period of uncertainty before he knew that the number
   he received would make it unlikely that he would be drafted.  He hasn't 
   lied about any of this-and nothing has been revealed that materially alters
   this flow of events.  
  >
>|> 
>|> >He did sleep with Flowers. 
>|> >He did cheat on his wife.
>|> 
>|> If true, so what?  She supports him; it's no one else's business.
>
>	If he lied to his wife he will lie to you.
  
     Well, Bush lied to us about taxes, and Its likely he had an affair about
     which he has probably lied to Barbara...so I guess by your logic George
     is lying about the successful outcome of his economic plans:  well, it
     doesn't matter-I always thought he was telling the truth when he called
     them voodoo economics.

>
>|> 
>|> >He will raise taxes.
>|> 
>|> I hope so!  I am not looking forward to the gov't going bankrupt.
>
>	It is ok if you want more taxes just send them in.  As for me I want
>       to keep my hard earned buck.  I know better than the government how to
>       use it.

   Then forfeit your right to live in this society and move someplace where
   you can work and keep all you make and pay no taxes.  O/wise one of the
   costs of living here is sharing the cost of running a government.  Plus,
   unless you're make over 200K a year what are you complaining about anyway?
>
>|> 
>|> >He will put people out of
>|> >work. 
>|> 
>|> And Bush won't!?
>
>	The Clinton/Gore economic program will make the economy worse than just about
>	anything Bush will do.

     yeah...right....
>
>|> 
>|> >He is LIBERAL.
>|> 
>|> Ooooo!  Scary!  Not Moderate, or even Liberal, but LIBERAL! 
>|> Seriously, to quote Ronald Reagan (August 8, 1992):
>|> "America needs leaders, not labels."
>
>	America needs Conservative leaders not ones who will rob the worker for more
>	government programs.

   Guys like Spiro Agnew or Neil Bush who will rob the worker to line their
   own pockets?
>
>|> 
>|> >You can not be one kind of man and another kind of President.
>|> 
>|> Sure you can.  Bush is a decent man, but a lousy President.
>
>	Yes I can be sure.  Bush is a good President not a great one.  He is
>       and will be far better than Clinton.  Bush on a bad day is better
>       than Clinton/Gore on their best day.

   Bush on a bad day is pretty bad.  I think Clinton/Gore have more experience
   and better ideas on goverance than a guy who calls a hotel room in Houston
   home so that he can avoid paying taxes in Maine where he spends practically
   all of his recreation time.  Bush seems like a parasite to me.
Xref: sparky alt.politics.bush:4649 alt.politics.elections:12793 alt.politics.clinton:4806