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From: kbowers@esrc1.uucp (Ken Bowers)
Subject: Virginia Schedule (was Re: Virginia WINS) 
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:16:42 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.144236.9701@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
>
>Oh yeah, I think Welsh calls them "traditional in-state rivalries" instead
>of "out-of-conference patsies", though these are virtually synonymous--
>im not even really flaming tech here, the other two 'traditional in-state
>rivalries" are W&M and VMI..........
>

In a state like Virginia, "traditional" carries a lot more weight
than it might somewhere else. They've been playing these teams for
a long time, and in many decades, those were competitive match-ups.
There is pressure at UVa to keep a Virginia identity, and I suspect
there are folks at VMI and W&M who want to keep UVa on the schedule
for the payday, the opportunity to socialize, and the off-chance of
beating a decent team ... besides, who knows what Virginia football
looks like after Welsh leaves? Think it will never go back to the 
bad old days? Does the name Arkansas ring a bell? I don't think 
Virginia is willing to abandon tradition completely. 

Virginia also has a long history with Navy, but that seems to me like
the school to drop altogether. Tech stays, of course. I think they 
should play VMI and W&M in alternating years, and use the third slot
for what looks to be a good team from a major confercence. (Identifying
"good" is a bit of a crap shoot. Virginia played Kansas a few years 
ago. If they kept up a series, that out-of conference schedule would
look a lot better this year. For the flip side, see Arkansas again).
That should give them only one true patsy every year, and two decent-to
very tough games, depending on how good Tech and the other opponent
are. 

A great match-up in my mind would be BYU. I think Viginia has become
similar to BYU in several respects: high-scoring, variable defense,
able to dominate middling teams, but unable to compete consistently
with the very best. I think they would produce an exciting series,
and give Virginia a shot at TV exposure for a non-ACC game. On the
other hand, BYU seems pretty well set for non-WAC games, so this
may be difficult to arrange. 

Ken B. 
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From: hopkins@agora.rain.com (Scott Hopkins)
Subject: Re: Best marching band
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 07:23:16 GMT

In article <aelman.717357063@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman) writes:
>mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
>You're right that we're undisciplined.  Frankly, I have lots of better
>things to do with my time than to learn to march absolutely precisely
>in time and play boring old marching band music.  But the Stanford
>Band has lots of fun.  We do constantly work at coming up with funnier
>shows, improving the quality of our music, both in variety and sound,
>and doing what we do the best we can do it.  If that's not the kind of
>thing you enjoy, sorry.  Go watch USC or the Cal band or the Husky
>band.  They're good at what _they_ do.  But I know plenty of people
>who would rather be watching TV bowling than a traditional
>military-style halftime show.
>
>Adam Elman
>aelman@cs.stanford.edu
>
I remember quite vividly when the Stanford marching band made a presentation
at University of Oregon a few years back.  They approached the spotted owl
issue in completely poor taste.  It was the only marching band that I've
ever seen get booed by tens of thousands of people.  It involved a
lumberjack chasing around a spotted owl, which ended with the lumberjack
killing the spotted owl.  This was Oregon for Christ sakes!  Naturally, the
people raised hell about it, and I believe the Stanford Band was actually
suspended a game or two because of this.  If you think this was 'fun' or
perhaps even 'funny', you were dreadfully wrong.  If a band has the nerve
to come to a state's football field, and then mock the state, I don't think
humor is involved.  If it was humor that was meant, I think maybe a little
lesson still needs to be instructed to the band.  Perhaps a little class
would do.  I have nothing against the football team, in fact I think
they're quite good, but maybe the administration should show the band a
little more discipline.  Because the incident at Autzen Stadium not only
gave your band no respect, but in the long run - your school.

	Just IMHO,
	Casey


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From: jade@triton.unm.edu (Eric Jaderlund)
Subject: Miami, Florida
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 00:56:40 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

Miami is the greatest team of all time...they can beat Arizona 8-7.
From: sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: So Who will be the No1!
Date: 7 Oct 92 03:24:49 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

}} In article <1992Oct6.224905.13203@u.washington.edu> sujan@stein.u.washington.edu (Sujan Punyamurthula) writes:
}} 
}} CNN AP NY   Team         Current Record     Upsetiers!
}} -----------------------------------------------------------------
}}  3  3   2 - Michigan            3-0-1  Michigan State

Serious drugs, man.  Serious.  The only team left with a shot at
Michigan, however remote, is Ohio State (not counting whoever Michigan
will lose to in the Rose Bowl).

They have to lose in the Rose Bowl.  It's the law.

sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:
      It's a wise dog that scratches its own fleas. (William Strunk, Jr.)

                  I meant what I said, and said what I meant.
           An elephant's faithful, one hundred percent. (Dr. Seuss)
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From: salil@igor.tamri.com (Salil Saxena)
Subject: Re: TV games Oct 3
Organization: Toshiba America MRI Inc, S. San Francisco, CA.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 22:56:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.165538.5293@infonode.ingr.com> ellingrw@infonode.ingr.com (Bob Ellington) writes:
>
>Tennessee At LSU has been moved to ESPN at 7:30 ET
>Georgia At Arkansas will be on JP/Sports at 12:30 ET  
>
>
>I don't know ABC's slate, or the rest of ESPN's.
>Last known ACC JP/Sports game would be NC State At Georgia Tech noon ET

Well ESPN has 		Ohio State @ Wisconsin (9:30am PDT) &
	      		Tennessee @ LSU (4:30pm PDT).

In the West, ABC has	Florida State (FSU) @ Miami (9:00am PDT) &
			USC @ Washington (12:30pm PDT).

Also NBC has		Stanford @ Notre Dame (10:30am PDT).

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From: jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: All these Penn State Predictions
Date: 7 Oct 92 00:03:33 GMT
Reply-To: jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Originator: jagreath@c00055-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu


In article <1992Oct6.224235.13737@walter.bellcore.com>, lein@garage.bae.bellcore.com (John Leinaweaver) writes:

|>PS:  Is Miami's #2 spot based on there performance against this years
|>     powerhouse Iowa... Who did FSU beat - Clemson???... What about
|>     ND and Michigan - other than their tie, who did they play... 

Let's see, FSU has played NCSU and Clemson on the road and won.  2 top 25
programs.  Games coming up against good teams: North Carolina, Virginia,
Georgia Tech.  Not an easy schedule.  Who has Penn State beaten? Maryland?
Gee, not really a contender for much of anything...

The point here is that you need to look at FSU's schedule.  It's arguably the
toughest in the country.  And then compare it to the schedules other top-10
schools are playing.  There are more creampuffs in those other schedules than
FSU has....
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From: kthompso@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Kevin Thompson)
Subject: Re: WOOOOOOOFFFFFFF
Organization: NASA/ARC Information Sciences Division
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:58:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.201116.24957@hubcap.clemson.edu> trev@hubcap.clemson.edu (Trevor Bauknight) writes:
>
>Really.  Don't sweat it too much.  Clemson is the doomed team come October
>10th.  Especially after we get beat upon by UT-Chattanooga this weekend.
>Honestly.  It's in the bag for y'all.  It's your turn to win 29 straight.
>I'm serious.  We suck.
>
>Bold prediction:  Clemson goes 6-5, losing to FSU, Georgia Tech, UVA, 
>   Maryland, and a 1-9 South Carolina team (the Gamecocks will have 
>   defeated Alabama en route) and starts looking for a new coach.  You 
>   heard it here first.  I'm not joking.

As a long-time UVA fan who recalls singing the Good Ol' Song when UVA got a
*first down* against Clemson my first year ('82, final score 48-0, for young,
spoiled, Wahoos -- I think the first first down was in the 3rd quarter), it
surely warms my heart to hear a Clemson fan predict they won't be too good
this year.  And I gather that you *do* mean it, and aren't just trying to
take care of the woofing Gods.  But seriously, what's wrong with Clemson, for
those of us who don't get televised ACC games?  Do they have some glaring
weaknesses that the pre-season pundits missed?  Or are they just a bit flat,
and still capable of reminding this Wahoo of the early '80s on October 10?
I've lost track of their coaching situation ...

Inquiring minds want to know -- Kevin Thompson

PS -- to the person who complained about how pathetic UVA's non-conf schedule
is, I agree, mostly.  But I still would guess that our overall schedule won't
look too ugly by the end of the year, there are 5 ACC teams in this week's AP
top 25 (though clearly only one top-10 caliber team).  What's really amazing
is that according to the schedule I have UVA plays 7 Home, 4 away this year
-- is that common?
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From: fran@cs.washington.edu (Tak Ming Pang)
Subject: Re: wuck fashington!!!
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 21:08:04 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.161617.25351@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> joconnor@evax10.eng.fsu.edu writes:
>God I am so tired of reading the pac-10 fans wooofin' on east coast 
>teams and how great washoutton is. I hope they take the challange of 
>going to the fiesta bowl with us (FSU or MIAMI) and show  the usa what 
>brand of football UW plays: powderpuf (against pac-10) or hardhitting
>"espn in your face" where even the injured play (i.e. 
>armstead,torretta <UM  baker, m. jones <FSU)
>
>If ya cant handle the heat, get outta the kitchen!!!
>                      ^^^^   
>                         (or florida humidity)
>
>
>--->->->--------------G-O------N-O-L-E-S---------------------------------->
>James O'Connor                          FSU-vs-MIAMI
>JOCONNOR@evax.eng.fsu.edu               Oct 3,1992   12:00pm
>"  ... I don't need this shit!"         Orange Bowl, Miami
>              -kinison


Yes, Miami should stay home and get some help from the hot weather.
They probably need hurricane to blow the football away from their
goal posts because next time their opponent is not going to be
Arizona any more. If Miami is good team, they should go to play
in Africa, see if they can stand the hunger over there.
From: krall@Think.COM (Tom Krall)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ND beat by GLNS/Army/CIT (was: Re: Miami - ND (once again))
Date: 28 Sep 1992 16:14:23 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: custard.think.com

In article <1992Sep25.144235.10394@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming) writes:
|> Timothy C Pitts writes:
|> 
|> >I still don't have a definitive answer as to who this ``Great Lakes'' team
|> >is.  Is anybody sure?
|> 
|> Great Lakes was affiliated with the Navy and ceased to exeist after World War 
|> II.  I don't know about their history before "the big one."  But, as was the 
|> case with many military institutions during WWII, they were pretty good at 
|> football.
|> 

Great Lakes Training Center is located north of Chicago in a town called
Waukegan (sp ?). It is, as the name implies, the U.S. Navy bootcamp. It is
one of three nationally, with the other two in San Dieago and Orlando. During
the 40's , military stations around the world had their own football, baseball,
basketball teams. This was because the draft was manditory, and many star 
atheletes were serving before, during, or after college. It also served as a
source of entertainment for the service members.  

-Tom
|> Something I have always wondered (with absolutely no reason or foundation) is 
|> if Great Lakes is in any way connected to Lake Supperior State.  LSSU, the Soo 
|> Lakers, boast the defending national champion in Men's Division I Hockey.
|> 
|>      - Pat
|> .
|> -- 
|> - Patrick E. Fleming ---------------------------------------------------------
|> - Department of Chemistry ------------ Some things are still a mystery to me -
|> - Ohio Wesleyan University ----------- While others are much too clear! ------
|> - pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu -----------------------------------------

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From: bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Gary Beason)
Subject: Re: Bobby.Bowden.sucks.sucks.sucks
Keywords: the chockemiester, chokarama, the chokinator...
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 19:33:29 GMT

yeah, right, Bowden sucks.  That's why he's one of the top five
coaches with the best winning percentage.

Not even in SEC, I have immense respect for Bowden.

Gary Beason
bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu

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From: ryan@aladdin.b11.ingr.com (Ryan Waldron)
Subject: Re: Alabama vs La. Tech
Reply-To: ryan@aladdin.b11.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:16:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.144333.5968@b23a.b23a.ingr.com>, rusty@b23a.b23a.ingr.com (Rusty Puckett) writes:
|>
|> Alabama's offense isn't that bad, even without the deuce.

No, I think it would be more accurate to say that Bama's offense is
still anemic, even with the Deuce.  The offense scored enough points to
win the game by themselves (I think Bama's defense could have kept Tech
out of the endzone for the whole 60 minutes), but Palmer's return did
not help the offense much.  And with the exception of the Arkansas game,
the offense has been almost completely pathetic.

|> A replay of that runback shows an illegal block (in the back of a Tech
|> defender) that would have  had a better shot at Palmer.

I have to admit, I missed that.  Who had the illegal block (what number),
and where in the runback did it occur?  I want to go back and take a look
at it.

|> Also, don't forget that La Tech's defense is also one of the best in
|> the nation.

They're certainly big and fast, and they hit hard.  I've heard from
several sources that they're a highly-ranked defense.  Does anyone have
any numbers or stats on them, or where they rank defensively among I-A
schools?

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From: mary@wam.umd.edu (Mary Louise Cassidy)
Subject: Re: Virginia WINS
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 09:18:47 GMT

Gee...but it's great how the lamer games are all first giving them
(uva) an illusion of grandeur...

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From: ktreole@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Kathleen Treole)
Subject: Re: Ho-Hum, Wisconsin 20, Ohio State 16
Keywords: Wisconsin Victory
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 18:07:33 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.010825.1506@cnsvax.uwec.edu> kenttj@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes
:
>    The Ohio State University     20
>    Wisconsin
>
>    I'm sure Ohio State is preaching numerous excuses about yesterday's
>game, but I hope they realize Wisconsin actually outplayed them.  Both

Not really;  on the newsgroup osu.sports, people are generally taking this in
stride...hopefully OSU will just learn from the loss and move on.

>    Childish Band Rebuttal:
>         Yes, the UW Band uses flip folders, but at least we do a
>different show every week.  It's easy to memorize the music when you play
>only two different shows a year.  (like the OSU Band.)

My high school band did a new show every week and we had to have all our
music memorized by the Thursday before the game or you couldn't march in the
show on Saturdays.  I think it's just a safe bet to say that the best band in
the land will never be a unanimous decision!
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From: gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith)
Subject: Re: Virginia Football 
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 23:11:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.200109.19201@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rmt6r@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Roy Matthew Thigpen) writes:
>So, we have a few non-believers out there saying that UVA's
>schedule is pathetic.  ...
>                             We willbe scheduling some big time
>opponents, just as soon as our contracts expire.  We have a home
>and away series set with Texas...
                          ^^^^^

I thought you said you would be scheduling some big time opponents?

- goober (that one's for jay) smith
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: ldr@lightnin.Columbia.NCR.COM (Dale Robbins)
Subject: Re: Gators Woof and Whiff
Organization: NCR Corp, E&M-Columbia, Columbia, SC
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 12:14:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.142303.10401@afit.af.mil> tbreeden@afit.af.mil (Thomas A. Breeden) writes:
>In article <1992Sep25.172822.12144@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> ldr@lightnin.Columbia.NCR.COM (Dale Robbins) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep25.130442.18968@athena.mit.edu> tafrakes@athena.mit.edu (T. Andy Frakes) writes:
>>>In article <1992Sep24.133450.181@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM>, ldr@lightnin.Columbia.NCR.COM (Dale Robbins) writes:
>>>
>>>|> >I'm all for "us" being on Bourbon Street January first, but how?
>>>|> >Here are the only two scenarios I can think of:
>>>|> >
>>>|> >   1.  The SEC gives tickets to SEC teams that are off that day.
>>>|> >   2.  The Gators go as the "other" team, say, to face-off with
>>>|> >       Alabama.  "We" have gone to the Sugar Bowl as the other
>>>|> >       team in the past.
>>>|> >
>>>|> >Andy
>>>|> >
>>>|> >Go Gators, blah blah,...
>>>|> >
>>>|> >
>>>|> 
>>>|> Andy,
>>>|> 
>>>|> I think you had better hope for plan 1 because I think UT and the rain 
>>>|> eliminated plan 2 from your senario. :-)
>>>|> 
>>>|> Go Vols....
>>>|> 
>>>|> Dale
>>>
>>>I think plenty of teams with one loss (even more!) have gone to the
>>>Sugar Bowl in the past.  Look how many losses last year's "other" team
>>>had, for instance.
>>>
>>>-- 
>>>T. Andy Frakes (tafrakes@athena.mit.edu)
>>>   "Give a difficult task to a lazy person and he'll find an
>>>    easy way to do it." -- perhaps Bartlett knows who said this,
>>>    but I'm too lazy to ask him.
>>
>>
>>But if UT and UF end with a tie of one loss each, tiebreaker to UT.
>>
>>Dale
>>
>
>Yes, Dale, that's why I said they could go as the "other" team.  That
>is, the non-SEC champion team.  Of course this could only happen if
>Alabama goes as the SEC champ, because Florida doesn't see Alabama
>in the regular season.
>
>Better yet, Florida makes it to a January 1 bowl game, but a bowl
>where there is good ole' natural grass!!
>
>Andy
>
>P.S.  I'd love to see the Gators play the 'Canes in a bowl in Florida.
>Of course, the Gators will have to be worthy.  They came back strong
>after early road losses the past two seasons.  I believe they will
>again this year.
>

OK... Slight miss-communication there.  Good luck against FSU and Georgia.

Dale
From: MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu (Spiro the Spiny Goldfish)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Fear & Loathing in State College (Was Re: PSU-Miami)
Date: 2 Oct 92 23:32:19 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

In article <199210022219.AA27866@tuna.wang.com>,
WILLIAM.S.BILL.W.ZUK@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("William S. Zuk") says:
>
>  As for P$U-BC:  This is the final meeting in the series - which
>  somehow always seems to be played in The Beaver Stadium - as the
>  Knittany Liars move on to their Big 1X schedule.  Boston College
>  will win the game, securing perpetual possesion of the highly-coveted
>  "Old Oaken Joepa", personally handcarved by George Paterno in 1976.

Gee, I guess the whole Blue Band was dreaming when we went to an away
game at Boston College last year, eh?
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From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Ohio State fans have a lot of excuses
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:22:23 GMT
Organization: Chevron

Saunders writes:
>This is not a flame; it is an observation.  So please, nobody take extreme
>umbrage at this.  :^)
>
>How about this:  "Ohio State sucked last week".  Short, concise, and
>accurate...
>
>Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu

Hmmmm.  Funny, Brian.  Seems I had a similar analysis of LSU's game
against CSU....

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