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From: dostalik@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Bill Dostalik)
Subject: Re: Great Big 8 QBs
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:58:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.203831.5792@sparky.imd.sterling.com> marko@IMD.Sterling.COM (Mark Olson) writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.102845@trc.amoco.com> zmed0b@trc.amoco.com (Michael E. Dupree) writes:
>>
>>     Steve Owens - OU    ???
>>
>>There must be some more Nebraska quarterbacks here.  Help us out!
>
>
>I forgot about Steve Owens, isn't he in broadcasting?  I believe he used to do
>the Barry Switzer Show in Oklahoma.  A couple of Nebraska QBS

I just corrected another post reminding folks Steve Owens was a Heisman
winning tailback, but now I realize you're thinking of Steve *Davis*, not
Owens.
	Steve Davis -  OU - I think he is still doing some broadcasting. 
			He was the qb for the '74 & '75 MNC teams.  
                        A real overachiever.

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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: Bowl Alliance Question
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:34:35 GMT

In article <7129@news.duke.edu> ds4@soc4.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS)  
writes:
> When can or cannot a team use its veto power over which bowl it goes to?

The chairman of the Sugar Bowl committee, who was on
WTEM Radio this morning, mentioned these two reasons:

1) Playing in the same bowl for the third year in a row (excluding
	mandatory conference tie-ins, obviously)

2) A better monetary offer is made by another bowl. (He said
	this was to try to get the Cotton and Fiesta to up their
	returns to $4M, as the Orange and Sugar are now.)

(So Miami couldn't pass on the Sugar Bowl, but could pass on the
Cotton.  Yet another slight against the SWC.)

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From: schramb@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Brian Schram)
Subject: Re: Oklahoma clinches Orange Bowl
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:28:22 GMT

murphy@rock.enet.dec.com () writes:


>Ok, now that I have your attention.  I tried this before but never got the
>answer I wanted.  On Saturday, OU and OSU tied.  IF(repeat for the brain dead
>IF IF IF IF) OU had beaten OSU(repeat OSU OSU, not CU), and
>went on to beat Nebraska, they would be 5-1-1 as would be CU.  Who would go
>to the Orange Bowl.  The dilemma is, that if OU would go rather than CU (I
>don't know, you tell me), then Gibbs costs his team a shot at the Orange
>Bowl by accepting the tie (if I recall, they kicked a short FG to tie at the
>end, I could be hosed in the head).  But he may be assuming that NU has
>beaten ISU, or does he know of the upset first, which might change his 
>decision.  Go for the win, beat highly ranked NU to finish 8-2-1. With the
>final win over NU and a several year hiatus from Miami, get the OB bid. Or
>MUST the OB take 9-1-1 CU, despite the in conference tie.  If so, avoid the
>loss to get a minor bowl bid.

>Any comments on this scenario?
nope, you lost me half-way through

>Murph
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From: ttsai@crhc.uiuc.edu (Timothy Tsai)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Big Ten bowls: all three of em :( (okay, four with PSU)
Date: 16 Nov 92 08:54:51 GMT
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demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes:

>	Rose Bowl: Michigan (maybe they'll even win :)
>	Citrus Bowl: Ohio State
>	Holiday Bowl: Michigan State or Illinois

>	Ohio State locks the Citrus by having 8 wins, so even if they tie for
>second or end up in third they'll still go.  Citrus has an 8-win escape clause.

Does the Holiday Bowl have an escape clause, or do they have to take the
3rd-place Big-10 team?
-- 
Timothy Tsai              Celtics Rule!!!
ttsai@uiuc.edu            Let's go Mets!!!
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From: pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen)
Subject: Re: Big Ten bowls: all three of em :( (okay, four with PSU)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:29:45 GMT


>>	Rose Bowl: Michigan (maybe they'll even win :)
>>	Citrus Bowl: Ohio State
>>	Holiday Bowl: Michigan State or Illinois

>	This isn't altogether correct.  Iowa can still go to the Holiday
>	if Illinois beats MSU and Iowa wins at Minnesota...

	Also if both Illinois and Iowa win, Illinois will go to the
Independence, Peach, Copper or Freedom Bowl.  So there will be three
Big Ten teams in bowls for sure and possibly four if Iowa wins.
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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: Big Ten Review (11-14-92)
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 17 Nov 92 12:59:36 CST

In article <1e9rfhINNoik@bredbeddle.cs.purdue.edu> sjc@cs.purdue.edu (Steve Chapin) writes:
>
>Purdue has no hope against IU.  Alstott (sp?), the freshman fullback
>who has looked super this year, is out with a broken foot/ankle (I
>heard both, the Exponent said ankle, which means it's probably foot)
>Hill and Conners are both out, so there are no running backs of
>experience/merit for Purdue.  Feh.
>
>Maybe start Pike at QB and Hunter at RB.  That'll confuse 'em, at
>least...

I remember a few years ago when Woodson played both ways against IU, and
Purdue pulled off a big upset.

So, put JEFF ZGONINA in at fullback!  He'll plow all those guys over!
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: sms35849@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott M. Stortzum)
Subject: Big 10 Preview...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:20:30 GMT

Hate to tell you salty, but it's Friday at 1:30 pm,
'bout 55 degress and sunny.  No winter here yet in
Champaign.

Scott

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From: fish@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Eric West)
Subject: Go U Northwestern!
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.college
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 05:47:01 GMT

At the beginning of the Big Ten season, I heard plenty of predictions
giving Northwestern 9th or 10th place.

Well, the Big Ten season is over, and Northwestern is tied for 6th with
Indiana, Wisconsin, and Purdue, being awarded 7th in tie-breakers, or at
least MY system (2-1 record among 4 teams beating Purdue and Wisconsin at
1-2, losing to Indiana on head-to-head).

We were also 1 point (and a missed field goal) away from being tied for
4th, being awarded 5th (losing to Iowa, "beating" Michigan State).

Northwestern has won 3 Big Ten games for the first time since 1973.  New
coach Gary Barnett has done an excellent job changing the attitudes of the
players and of most of the fans.  In the coming years, the team can only
get better.  I realize this has been an off-year (or maybe off-decade) for
the Big Ten, but don't expect Northwestern to slip back down to the bottom
of the conference.  I applaud Michigan, Ohio State, and Illinois for
somehow surviving and making the bowls, and I applaud Northwestern for
giving me the most exciting football season I have ever witnessed.

ecw
fish@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
EXPECT VICTORY!!!  GO CATS!!!
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From: th9708@meibm8.cen.uiuc.edu (Todd Lee Henderson)
Subject: Re: Michigan, ND, Miami etc ...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:56:52 GMT

ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston) writes:

>In article <1992Nov18.152425.12729@walter.bellcore.com> lein@cat.uucp (John Leinaweaver) writes:
>>In article <Bxx2Er.Gn0@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson) writes:
>>>jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich) writes:
>>>
>>>>rszczerb@boole.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba) writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Oh about the other question, rob - maybe it's because ND has a loss !!!
>>>
>>>Buzz, wrong, try again.
>>>
>>>This doesn't wash.  fsu has a loss, but their ahead of A&M.
>>>
>>>Todd
>>>
>>
>>
>>Probably because they tied at South Bend - If the teams are even then
>>slight edge to Michigan for the tie at the other team's home.
>>
>>
>>John L
>>

>FSU lost to #1 Miami.  Not Stanford.  Big difference, imho.  

The point is, fsu has a loss!  There are 3 teams that do not.  Until
they lose I see no justification for fsu ahead of any of them.  When
A&M faces Miami, or Bama faces Miami and loses or whatever, then you
can bring your strength of schedule argument in, until then:

fsu is the best 1 loss team in the nation, nothing more.

Todd
tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu

>---
>Steve

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From: nelson@clunker.b21.ingr.com (nelson jordan)
Subject: Re: Solving A&M's Schedule Strength Problem
Organization: ^$
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:09:54 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.154812.9075@infonode.ingr.com> knightb@abulafia.b21.ingr.com (William B. Knight) writes:
>Here's my proposal.  The SEC should invite TAMU to join along with Southern
>Mississippi.  Both would join the west division while Auburn would move to
>the east division.  
>
>Advantages:  TAMU plays a much tougher schedule in the SEC.  They play LSU 
>every year anyway and could pick up Texas as a non-conference game.  They also
>add a little more power to the SEC where they could compete with Bama in the
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 NORMALLY this wouldn't be a problem, but with traditional powers Auburn, LSU,
(and maybe Arkansas) having fallen on hard times recently, only un-traditional
power Miss.St. competed for the SEC West title. 
 
>western division.  Southern Miss plays a few SEC schools each year anyway 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>and would get to play them at home more often.  They are a pretty good team
>usually.  Auburn would get to renew its rivalry with Tennessee and could
>have Bama as a cross-divisional game each year.
>
>Disadvantage:  Without changing format, the teams would play a 9 game
>conference schedule.  This might be ok, though.  
>
>Comments?
>
>-- 
>Brad Knight 
>knightb@abulafia.b21.ingr.com
>


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From: exby@pogo.Colorado.EDU (|J| Exby)
Subject: Re: I'M BACK!!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:26:17 GMT

corsol@byron.u.washington.edu (Lee Corso) writes:

>My picks for this Saturday:

>UCLA 42, USC 21           Tommy "Gun" Maddox works his magic again.  Mazio 
>                          Royster's performance for USC is not good enough to
>                          beat the mighty upset-minded Bruins...

hm.  didja know that Youngun Maddox is now with the Denver Broncos dude?
He may be playing on sunday vs. duh raiders - maybe you are picking
him to win on sunday too?

::j
From: rszczerb@hollerith.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: NOTRE DAME - NATIONAL CHAMPS - 1992
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:16:04 GMT
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame

In article <6601@npri6.npri.com> murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy) writes:
>
>Florida (currently #9, probably #7 or even #6 by 22 nov 1992) will defeat
>#3 FSU, embarrass #2 alabama, and (thanks to texas beating TAMU) finally
>humble the #1 hurricanes in the sugar bowl.  this will not only propel
>the gators to an undisputed first-ever national championship, but it will
>make history by [a] being the first two-loss MNC and [b] (i think) be the
>first ever team to beat the third, second, and first ranked teams
>consecutively, in that order.  as a bonus, none of the three are at home.
>an extremely impressive scenario, eh?
>
>         --------> REALITY CHECK <--------
>
>this won't even happen in my dreams :-(  the tide will crush UF like an
>overripe melon, leaving both gators and irish on the sidelines whilst
>alabama and miami arm-wrestle for the glory of it all.  sad but true.
>
>of course, if notre dame DOES play miami, by all means humiliate them.
>

We'll do the best we can if we get the chance, but ND is counting
on Florida to destroy Alabama and Florida State, while not jumping
over ND in the polls.  If you guys get the chance to play the
mighty CANES, by all measn humiliate them.

			- rob
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From: kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge)
Subject: Re: Big Ten Review (11-14-92)
Keywords: Big Ten
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 17:15:51 GMT

In article <BxvD2u.78K@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler) writes:
|> 
|> 	How did all of you interpret Keith's call of the game?  Early
|> 	on, when Michigan was running roughshod over Illinois, but having
|> 	the fumblitis, I thought he and Griese were bending over backwards
|> 	trying to indicate that "this is how upsets are made".  Then,
|> 	when I came into work yesterday, I had more than one Illini
|> 	diehard tell me how much they now hate Jackson for "kissing
|> 	Michigan's ass".  I must be the most gullible person ever...

The evidence I'll offer to back this up is when he (maybe Griese
too, I forget) tried to get the viewer to buy that Michigan attempting
the 2 pointer after they just scored the TD to go up 19-15 was the 
right thing to do.  Keith said something like "well, it will put them 
up by 2 FG's", without even questioning the "when you're ahead or behind
by 5 points" logic out of "Coaching 101".  I couldn't believe neither of 
them were questioning Moeller's move on that one.  Any neutral announcer
should have probably been pointing out that it was a dumb move.  I,
as a Michigan fan, certainly wasn't buying it...

|> | Randy Peppler               |

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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: fichigan fumbles
Organization: University of Michigan
	<ASH.92Nov16085655@ulysses.mr.ams.com>
	<1992Nov20.180602.17863@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:36:06 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.180602.17863@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> exby@pogo.Colorado.EDU (|J| Exby) writes:

   no son, I say ya got it all wrong.  being anti-michigan mean you
   aint a stooge ya see?  It's all of you who worship bo scumbechler

I've always wondered: shouldn't that be scumbelcher?  It seems more your
style...

   and repeat the SAME fight song over-and-over ad nauseum at games
   that defines the word "stooge".

Don't try to rationalize your views, we love you just the way you are.  Well,
Alan doesn't seem to have a handle on it yet, but you'll wear him down.  In
any case, Michigan is *far* from the monotony leader.  Haven't seen an SC
game, have you?  FSU?  The list goes on...

Bill

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From: rszczerb@monet.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Subject: Re: MIGHTY MICHIGAN ... and notre dame
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:39:28 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.200207.23400@news2.cis.umn.edu> milius@proton.med.umn.edu (Bob Milius (BMEC)) writes:
>>I don't even think they're the best team in the
>>Big 10 ...           
>
>If not Michigan, then which team do you believe IS the best team 
>in the BIG10 this year? I like to hear your logic explaining why.
>
>-bob
>a Michigan fan
>

Bob,

Well, I've only seen the following games with Michigan
and Ohio State:

Michigan - ND
Michigan - Purdue
Michigan - Illinois
Michigan - Ohio State
Ohio State - Syracuse
Ohio State - Illinois   

Obviously this isn't enough to make a judgement about a teams
quality for the entire season, but only from the games I saw
it seemed that Ohio State had the stronger team. I think
Michigan has the most talent in the Big 10 and definitely the
most potential, but I don't think they've been using it
lately.  But, this is just one opinion.

		 - rob


P.S.  Good luck in the Rose Bowl.
 



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From: dostalik@utdallas.edu (Bill Dostalik)
Subject: Re: Down to Business (OU/NU)
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:04:28 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.135846.4687@sparky.imd.sterling.com> marko@IMD.Sterling.COM (Mark Olson) writes:

>>Charle Thompson is playing for an NAIA school as a tailback. He was good.
>>But never as good as Jamelle, who was arguably the best wishbone qb ever
>>at OU. 
>
>I would agree with you.  Wasn't he a freshman in '85 when the Sooners won their

Yes, a true freshman.

>last MNC. That used to be the most frustrating thing about being a Husker fan,
>the Sooners would come to Lincoln and club our team into submission, usually
>by coming back in the fourth quarter while we'd be shaking our heads saying
>'why, why.'  Then we'd always, 'well, there's next year,' but Barry Switzer
>would always have freshmen, sophomores, and juniors starting.  So the next year
>we'd go down to Norman and our team would be clubbed into submission my more
>freshmen, sophomores, and juniors.
>
>Incidentally, more OU triva, was it Joe Washington that wore the silver shoes?
>I heard or read somewhere that the shoes were placed in a Football memorabilia
>collection somewhere, College Football Hall of Fame?  Sooner Hall of Fame?  I

At the Mizzou game a week ago last Sat., a special ceremony was held for
Little Joe and his silver shoes.  They are encased in glass and on
display somewhere in the OU athletic dept.

>remember those shoes well, if it was Washington, he was one hell of a tailback,
>he also burned NU for some big time yardage.  I was in the NU band in '75, as

If OU had been able to play on tv little Joe might have won Archie Griffin's
2nd Heisman.  But if....

>we were walking out onto the field to do our halftime show, I walked right by a
>pair of the silver shoes that were sitting on a table behind the OU bench.  I
>would have reached out and touched them, I was that close to them, but the two
>Oklahoma State Troopers standing near by made me think twice about this.
>
>In any case, I digress.  OU and NU have had some great games and great players
>participating in those games.  I have no doubt that next friday's game will be 
>any different.  To quote Keith Jackson, 'should be a dandy...'

I betting it will be, too.  OU is a frustrated team right now.  Wed. 
practice was canceled in place of a team meeting where players could
vent their frustrations.  Apparently some players are upset Steve Collins
didn't get a chance to play against OSU.  It was not a team walkout, though.
It's been a long season for the Sooners.

>>>Mark Olson  || marko@IMD.Sterling.COM -or- uunet!sparky!marko

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From: elfering@socrates.umd.edu (David J. Elfering)
Subject: Re: Huskers lose. Mega-Major Bummer!!
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 05:00:00 GMT

In article <skipb.721875221@cwis> skipb@cwis.unomaha.edu (Skip Burrell) writes:
>
> ( TEXT DELETED)
>This disappointing loss should light a fire in this team, so I feel a little
>sorry for Oklahoma. :j We should be back on top of our game by then. At least
>I hope so. Anyway, I'm still cheering my Husker's even if I am depressed at
>the moment. Again, congrats to ISU for playing the game of their lives.
>
 Strangely enough, I feel a smaller amount of grief about this than I
would have thought. The MNC was a longshot, and I guess that since I
didn't have any expectations for this game, so I'm not too terribly
dissapointed, a little incredulous perhaps and even shocked, but not
utterly destroyed. From looking at the stats, ISU dominated the Huskers by
playing them at their own game...grind it out, smashed nose football, so I
have to hand it to ISU they deserve to bask in the glow of a Kodak moment.
This has to be a huge feather in Jim Waldens hat ! I'll have to watch the
Husker Highlights this Tuesday just so I can convince myself that this is
for real. Oh well on to Oklahoma (who had a little set back themselves) to
see who gets the bragging rights to the "Big-Red(s)" rivalry for 1992.


>GO BIG RED!!
 on to the REAL rivalry!

Dave Elfering   - A Husker fan in ACC land
elfering@socrates.umd.edu  (Univ. Maryland)

>--
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>University of Nebraska at Omaha		AOL:		skipb
>My Disclaimer: Any opinion I may have stated was purely unintentional!


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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:15:51 -0500 
From: William Karamo Motley <wm1o+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: UW, Arizona, & Miami

I'm just being anal here, but: 

In an article <1992Nov15.212428.15622@u.washington.edu> 
wessir@shelley.u.washington.edu (bill the cat) writes:

>2)  Offense not as good as Miami?  Because Miami score 7 points and
Washington 
>      only scores 3?  

Miami scored 8 :)

As if it really makes a difference.



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From: zmed0b@trc.amoco.com (Michael)
Subject: Down to Business (OU/NU)
Originator: zmed0b@zircon
Organization: Amoco Production Company, Tulsa Research
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:22:52 GMT


Okay, now we get down to business in the season.  Nebraska's Orange Bowl hopes
and Oklahoma's ANY bowl hopes come down to the game on Nov. 27 in Norman.  And
anybody who knows this series knows this one is gonna be tough as nails.  Nebraska
needs a win.  A tie would put the Orange Bowl in question with Colorado.  OU
needs a win to have a chance at any bowl appearance as NCAA regulations require
6 wins to progress to even be considered for a bowl.  Plenty on the line. Sound
familiar?

This one is tough for me because the idea of Colorado in the Orange Bowl is
very unappealing.  While Nebraska (and Texas) are probably OU's arch rivals,
we have tremendous respect for Tom Osbourne and the Huskers.  Even though I
would like to see Oklahoma in some bowl, I would prefer to be bested by
Nebraska for the Orange Bowl rather than Colorado.  Tough call.  I'm sure both
teams understand the importance of the game and will be fired up.

Mike

P.S. - Was at the OU/OSU game Saturday.  Very good game by both teams.  No
       Steve Collins, though?  While OSU has done well against the option, I
       would have liked to have seen Steve see a little action and see how he
       fared.  Gundy did relatively well, though, considering that he hadn't
       played in 3 weeks.