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From: snodgras@lclark.edu (Bil Snodgrass)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Foot in mouth and up my butt!!!
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:57:11 GMT
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

Damage control alert!!!!  I have done it again.  DJK is a Christian 
hypocrite, at least ours is, but not DJK from personals!!!!

Sorry!!

Bil

Damn, I knew it was too easy!!!!
From: hwt@bwdlh490.BNR.CA (Henry Troup)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Quebec Condoms
Keywords: PR weenie stuff.
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:03:56 GMT
Reply-To: Henry.Troup@BNR.CA
Distribution: world
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada

I've always liked 'Edsel is a trademark of the Ford Motor Company' and
well as Unix is a trademark (current trademark owner)

  Henry Troup - HWT@BNR.CA (Canada) - BNR owns but does not share my opinions
!erutangis ruoy otni suriv erutangis siht ypoc ot nevird ylsuoicsnocbus era uoY
From: glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Bailar el Flamenco (was Different Cultures)
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:12:47 GMT
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Originator: glp@merlin


In article <1992Apr13.112623.29512@cs.hw.ac.uk>, wells@cs.hw.ac.uk (Francis Wells) writes:
|> 
|> Espero que llegues a bailar como una verdadera gitana... :-)

With these instructions, how can he not!

::sound of applause::

-- 
Greg Parkinson                  Phone: 212-657-7814  Fax: 212-825-8607
Citibank,111 Wall Street        E-Mail: glp@fig.citib.com
New York, New York  10043
The opinions expressed are my own and not those of the big 'ol bank.
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Regarding the NY/NJ CON Proposal
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:27:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: ads.1992Apr7.232704.26948
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton

rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue) wrote: 
->	Until then - a London or Paris .con soulds like an excellent
->idea.  It would give all the Euro-motssiti a chance to .con who can't
->afford to go to the US.  

insert here the whines of all those who can't afford to go and would
rather it be in indianapolis, or cleveland, or portland, or ...

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com (Jake Coughlin)
Subject: Re: Born Again Virgin (Re: Pride Parades)
Originator: jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 17:24:38 GMT
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber):
>>on second thought, RIP UP MY QUEER CARD -- then i can be a closetted
>>virgin again, ripe for picking...
> Honey, It ain't that easy....

are you flirting with me, FWA?  maybe i can be a born again queer!
would you like a hand in my new incarnation as a leather man?
-- 
Jason Coughlin ( jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com )
Queer Without A Cause!
"I find myself suddenly in the world, and I recognize that I have one
right alone: that of demanding human behavior of the other." -- Fanon
Newsgroups: soc.motss,soc.bi
From: entropy@yaya (Lawrence C Foard)
Subject: reward money
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 06:39:54 GMT

Has anyone thought of starting a reward fund for information leading to the
arrest and conviction of bashers? I assume a fund like that could be self
perpetuating if civil suits with punitive damages where always brought against
attackers.

Making it a policy to go after bashers financially has the added benefit of 
bankrupting the parents of juvenile attackers. This could make parents think
twice before teaching there children that its ok to attack queers.

I think alot of kids would be willing to rat on there "friends" if they would
get $1000 out of it.
-- 
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Hackers do it for fun.  |  Being Bisexual squares your         \    / therefore
"Profesionals" do it for money. |  probability of not getting   \  / p^2<p and
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From: idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: GLB+ hangouts on the Internet
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:56:29 GMT
Organization: Eris's Restaurant

In article <manz.702771079@ee.ualberta.ca> manz@ee.ualberta.ca (Brett {Druid Queen} Manz) writes:
>I recommend ISCA-BBS (address grind.isca.uiowa.edu or 
>isca01.isca.uiowa.edu, login as iscabbs and follow the
>instructions provided.)  It's a mock-Citadel board, with
>a public room called Lesbigay and a private (queers only)
>room called Queerspace.  You'll have to send mail to the
>user named `Ender' to get access to QS.  Very Gay positive
>environment.

Thanks, Brett! I just registered yesterday and already I've talked to
about five wonderful people in the limited time I was there (We have
problems with timezone differential).  I'd recommend this BB to anyone.

>PS.  On ISCA I'm known as Dark Angel.

And I'm "Crisco Kid" (surprise, surprise).

					Kay
-- 
6'2", dark short hair, blue eyes, bisexual and horny as ....
Kay Dekker, Dept of Industrial Design, Coventry Poly, Coventry UK
37 Old Winnings Road, Keresley Village, Coventry   |B0 f t+ g++ k++! s+ e r p!
Phone: +44 203 838668 (work) +44 203 337865 (home) |Deflowerer-of-innocents
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: pgryan@intelhf.hf.intel.com (Paul Ryan)
Subject: Re: John Haugh's Current Incarnation
Organization: Development Tools Operation, Intel Corp., Hillsboro  OR
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 16:40:34 GMT

Jess Anderson writes:
>I was struck the other day by his referring to himself as
>heterosexual.  We corresponded a bit that last time he was
>around, and I could swear he told me he was bisexual.

John has said that sexual orientation is a choice and homosexuality is curable.
He said specifically (last week) that he has "chosen" to be heterosexual.

He has also shown us some pretty harshly negative feelings about men who
love men.

Put it all togethor, and it's pretty consistent with bisexual attractions
and a decision to pursue women exclusively.

That would make John bisexually oriented and behaviorally heterosexual.

Of course, he could also be a gay man in denial.  The bisexual/choice line
would be more believable if he weren't such a homophobe.

Does it matter?  Mostly, no.  A couple of labels never do justice to the
infinite variety of humanity.  But John calls himself a heterosexual often
enough that it must matter to him.

Personally, I think John's habit of making sure we know he's strayt is just
a sign of how much his own attractions to men scare and upset him.

In fact, he's starting to look like a textbook example of the homophobe
who is motivated by fear of his own attractions to men.  Hmmm ... and I
always used to think that was a myth.  Live and learn ...

Paul ... who is following Jess' advice to talk about the bigots instead of
to them, and who likes the way Bill signs off enough to mimic it
From: pierce@husc4.harvard.edu (Tim Pierce)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Oscars
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:28:58 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

I'm setting followups to "poster" because this is such a
frequently-discussed topic on soc.motss; if you think that the
discussion really should remain here, feel free to set it back.

In article <1992Apr4.180648.25081@nevada.edu> dickson@nevada.edu (JON THUMIM) writes:

>I may be a little naive but doesn't it seem probable that we won't get any
>respect from Hollywood if we continue to rant and rave about injustices in 
>films, like "Basic Instinct"?

That depends.

(a) We may not get any sort of immediate "respect" from Hollywood as a
result of these protests, but we have at least ensured that the issues
of homophobia and heterosexism are present in peoples' minds; getting
them to admit the existence of the problem is half the battle.

(b) Do we really want that sort of respect from them at all?  I could
care less what the producers and directors say about me as a pushy
queer, so long as they quit portraying me as a member of a
cannibalistic murdering cult.

>Why didn't anyone raise any flack over "Steel Magnolias" or "Long Time 
>Companion"?

Why should they have?  Here I'm honestly curious.

>I just don't see the reason for being so vocal like the Queer 
>Nation.  Don't they realize that you can't change society over night?
>
>We should be grateful for the steps that we have made over the years.  You 
>can't just ram this down peoples throats.

I was mildly amused to see the juxtaposition of these two paragraphs;
if I remember my queer history correctly, the only way we made any of
the progress you describe at all was by ramming it down peoples'
throats.  The Stonewall riots, the Gay Liberation Front, ACT UP, and
undoubtedly countless other such events and organizations were able to
shape today's politics only by making sure that people became aware of
queers through whatever means possible.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                /
\  / pierce@husc.harvard.edu   /         See it and understand.
 \/ (aka twpierce@amherst.edu) /
From: fjvwing@cs.vu.nl (FJ!!)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Heterosexual Exploitation of Homosexuality?
Date: 13 Apr 92 08:45:06 GMT

elf@polari.com writes:
"In article <1992Apr8.100712.8495@s1.gov>
"     lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes:
"   Disclaimer: "Elf, sometimes your life sounds like fiction."

Elf, sometimes your life sounds truly too wierd to be fiction.

								FJ!!
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: ACM022@Zeus.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Re: Charles Turing's Untimely Death
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 10:39:20 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.11

In <Ooh! Is that mindless babbling I hear?@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>
jfh@greenber.austin.ibm.com (John F. Haugh II) writes:

> Physician heal thyself!

Shoo, junior!

---
John Dorrance				** Disco Diva y Flamenco Chico **
ACM022@zeus.unomaha.edu
	You bring me to my knees while I'm scratching at the eyes
	Of a world I want to conquer and deliver and despise.
From: jfh@greenber.austin.ibm.com (John F Haugh II)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: These Boots Weren't Made For Walking
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:17:13 GMT
Organization: Best Care South of the Red River, LCC, Austin, Republic of Texas

In article <1992Apr8.183931.4244@ifi.unizh.ch> kiser@ifi.unizh.ch (Markus Kiser) writes:
>I also bought some boots a while back. Not cowboy boots as you describe,
>but black boots with a flattened tip and a metal ring on both sides of
>the ankles. I bought them new and they cost me around $160.

These sound like "harness boots", also known as "motorcycle boots".

>I just have to admit that I love them.

I had a pair but found that they wore out too fast using them as
motorcyle boots.  They weren't a very high quality pair of shoes
and the weather quickly wore them out.  But they looked pretty slick
in the meantime.

>A good way is to give in to the feeling you'd fall. You won't fall.
>Your body just needs to do some extra balancing to keep you upthight 
>when walking in boots. It's nice if you learn to do that balancing
>with your legs and hips only and don't need your whole body for it (which
>probably would result in a very funny walking style).

You almost have to lope along, sort of liking bobbing.  It helps me
and my long legs to move my butt moreso than wearing flat shoes.  I
now own three pairs of Dan Post boots (the only boots worth buying)
and have contributed to the extinction of at least three different
endangered species (if you consider lizards to be an endangered
species worth saving ...)
-- 
John F. Haugh II      | VNET: LCCB386 at AUSVMQ | "Physical Fitness is the
SneakerNet: 042/2F068 | MaBell: (512) 823-1078  |  basis for all other forms
Internet: jfh@devnet.la.locus.com               |  of excellence"  -- JFK
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: larry@bradley.bradley.edu (Larry D. Stratton)
Subject: SEEN IN THE CHRONICLE
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 16:39:32 GMT

   Two articles of note in the Chronicle of Higher Education:

GAY GROUP'S BUDGET IS CUT BY STUDENT GOVERNMENT
  The University of Alabama Student Government Association slashed
the Gay/Lesbian Alliance grant by $536. leaving them $264.  The
reasoning was to comply with an opinion issued by the state's
Attoorney General  that money or facilities cannot be used by a 
group that promotes sexual activities that violate Alabama's 
anti-sodomy laws. The Alliance is appealing.

AIDS-AWARENESS POSTER REMOVED

Pedro Bustos-Aguilar, an instructor at the University of Texas, Austin,
who had a sexually explicit poster displayed in his office, was asked
by the department chair to "put it in a less prominent place in his 
office."  Several other faculty members responded by displaying the poster
in their offices.  The poster, called "Get Carried Away With Condoms,"
depicts two naked men embracing. One of them is wearing a condom.

**************************************************************

   Bigotry marches on!

   Anyone know where I can get the poster?

-- 
"Closets are for clothes" 
"Those who don't know are terminally stupid or virginally new"
"I should have known it was doomed.  I don't like tea."  -Tea for Two
L. D. Stratton   larry@bradley.edu   (309) 693-8500 when all else fails
From: jfh@greenber.austin.ibm.com (John F Haugh II)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: ???Behaviorist Brainwashing????
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:02:19 GMT
Organization: Best Care South of the Red River, LCC, Austin, Republic of Texas

In article <1992Apr7.230933.5407@amhux2.amherst.edu> twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.054858.3022@news.unomaha.edu> ACM022@Zeus.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:
>>Why do people spend so much time arguing about whether child molesters are
>>straight or gay?
>
>Because people like Haugh NEED to be able to say that homosexuality
>marks the fall of Western Civilization, and they will go to no end of
>rationalization to do so.

Nonsense.  You need to deny that you control your own life, then
kick, whine and complain when someone wants to deny you your
martyrdom.  Get a clue Timmy, it's time you grew up and accepted
responsiblity for your life and the choices you make and quit
blaming others for what goes on around you.

>>Seems to me that attraction to children is an entirely
>>different thing form being attracted to motss or motos.
>
>Exactly.

Duh.  Aren't you one of the people that blamed child molestation
on us evil heterosekshual people?  Aren't you the person trying
to define what is and isn't heterosexuality?  Shouldn't you let
heterosexuals decide who is and isn't straight?  Seems you have no
problem doing the same for gays ...
-- 
John F. Haugh II      | VNET: LCCB386 at AUSVMQ | "Physical Fitness is the
SneakerNet: 042/2F068 | MaBell: (512) 823-1078  |  basis for all other forms
Internet: jfh@devnet.la.locus.com               |  of excellence"  -- JFK
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Subject: Re: These Boots Weren't Made For Walking
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:41:58 GMT

In article <s50j8INNerv@agate.berkeley.edu> gnn@mastodon.cs.berkeley.edu (George Neville-Neil) writes:

>Ahh but it can be sooo useful !!  Like coming home at two or three am,
>not waking up your SO, tiptoe around getting ready for bed.  Then you
>crawl very slowly into bed and attack !!  It's quite nice to see that
>shocked look ;-)   


The way you and Ricky sleep, I could break into your apartment with a 
jackhammer, tapdance into the bedroom, throw my boots across the room, 
toss my suspenders with the big ring in the back onto the floor,
dump a bag full of torture instruments into the bed and climb in without
waking either of you.


For that matter, we could probably have a three way where I would be the
only one awake...




Oops... There I go, telling other people's secrets... ;-)



FWA
From: buckmr@RPI.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Sharon Stone on SNL
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:25:17 GMT

> 
> Did anyone who was watching the 11 April 1992 Saturday Night Live (with
> Sharon Stone as host) notice the apparent protest in the audience during
> her monologue?  As soon as she started her /Basic Instinct/ schtick, what
> sounded like 20-40 people in the audience began yelling and chanting and
> blowing whistles.  The camera never showed them, but Stone was forced to
> stop her monologue a few times when the noise was too much.  It really was
> quite loud for a few seconds.  I couldn't make out what they were yelling,
> but I did -- I think -- catch the words "gay" and "kills women".  But then
> again, those things fit in with what I was expecting to hear.
> 
So, I was like busy, okay? Shoot me! :-)
> Anyone know about this action?  Was it QN/NY who did this, or was it
> totally my imagination, or what?

Anyway, yes I also saw this [though Godess knows WHY I was watching SNL anyway].
The NYT reported on Monday that 5 protesters were arrested at the studio where
SNL is taped on Saturday night. A Paul Wagner was quoted as saying that they
were protesting Sharon Stone's appearance on the show and her film _Basic
Instinct_. They shouted "Fight AIDS, not Women'' and something else I forget.
There's also an AP story on the event that ran in my local paper. The NYT story
was buried in the back of the Metro [B] section.

I don't believe it was announced whether the protesters were part of a QN 
tribe or not.

> 
> 
---
RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735. "D.C. in '93!"
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
"A visceral recoil from homosexuality is the natural reaction of a healthy
society wishing to preserve itself." Pat Buchanan, March 27, 1991, N.Y. POST
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: onr@netcom.com (D. Owen Rowley)
Subject: Amiga owners on parade (was Re: Crusades (was Re: Deletions))
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 19:16:57 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Apr12.044913.26205@nevada.edu> 
balistik@big-brother.nevada.edu (Shawn Hicks) writes regarding George
Madisons unfaging devotion to the Amiga platform.

>I knew there was something about George that I liked!!! 

Well, Its a redeeming feature anyway :-)

>Shawn
>Proud Amiga owner.
>Favorite quote: "Back in '85 my Amiga was juggling windows like a pro when
>                 MSDOS still thought the world could fit in 650K"

Count me in on the ranks of Happy Amiga owners.
Every once in a while I find myself running AD-PRO frobing the pic's I'm
scanning with DCTV in another window and transfering the results back to my
UNIX acct ... all at the same time... and I wonder why there are people
who spend three times as much on some Mac-damn psuedo-computer that can't
handle the first two tasks in the first place, and can't multitask even when
it trys to do Unix ?

For what its worth though, the shear numbers of MSDOS units in the market 
mean that when they finally solve the problems , its not gonna matter that
there was somebody else that did it first. 
If you want to develop skills that will be usefull in the workplace, you
will be wasting your time if you only learn Amiga and ignore windows.
This is whats known as a harsh reality.

LUX .. owen

-- 
D. Owen Rowley .. Note this acct is not my primary USENET access
mail gets to me quicker if you send it to owen@autodesk.com

*No matter where you go, there you are.*
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: larry@bradley.bradley.edu (Larry D. Stratton)
Subject: Re: anybody know anything about Chile??
Keywords: yes, Chile.
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 17:32:06 GMT

In <1992Apr17.145037.27989@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu> pmele@ldgo.columbia.edu (phil mele) writes:

>yes, i'm off to Chile on 2 may and hope that somebody knows something about
>what's happening.  i'll be in Santiago for a day or two and then will head
>down to Punta Arenas, a pretty small city, but a big port so there might
>be something to do, i hope.

   Take 1 # ground beef of choice, brown, add garlic, onion........
    What?   Yeah, chilli......

    Chile?   Chile.....

    oh..
-- 

  In search of a sig.
    suggestions solicited
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue)
Subject: Re: outing the stars
Organization: insert anything here
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 13:53:37 GMT


	OK - hay I have NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER with outing the
stars...  I mean everyone *knows* that Aldebaran had some flings
at an earlier age, and Betelgeuse just prances around, and if
Procyon, isn't -well <snap!> GIRLFRIEND! lemme tell you!

	[can we say 178 days until thesis defense (projected)?]

(The scary thing is that my research is leading me to believe that 
stars *do* have "orientation" in their rotational patterns!  Now
whether this happens from "birth" (landing on the main sequence
from the Hayashi track) or something they "leanr" along the way
or if it's just a "phase" I don't know yet - that will be a few more 
years in coming...  Oh and yes, I think I could  say that there is
a Kinsey scale potential here - of the two major modes things seem
to be in, one of my best candidates appears to "go both ways").

BBC, with spots before his eyes
From: pmele@ldgo.columbia.edu (phil mele)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: anybody know anything about Chile??
Keywords: yes, Chile.
Date: 17 Apr 92 14:50:37 GMT
Organization: Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory

yes, i'm off to Chile on 2 may and hope that somebody knows something about
what's happening.  i'll be in Santiago for a day or two and then will head
down to Punta Arenas, a pretty small city, but a big port so there might
be something to do, i hope.
thanks - phil

-- 

Phil Mele  (pmele@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu)
Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory of Columbia University
Palisades, N Y  10964
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: manis@cs.ubc.ca (Vincent Manis)
Subject: Re: Heinlein and sexism (Was Asimov and sexism)
Organization: Institute for Pure and Applied Eschatology
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 21:20:05 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.175929.7548@rlgvax.Reston.ICL.COM>
michelle@rlgvax.Reston.ICL.COM (Michelle Elliott) writes: 
>I suggested Thomas Disch, who IS gay, but nobody has commented
>on it yet, including the poster of the original question.

My original answer was: Delaney, Bradley, and Clarke. (I had forgotten
about Disch, in spite of having really enjoyed `On Wings of Song' when
it came out.) However, given the clue I subsequently posted (household
word), I think that Disch has to be considered the correct answer, given
that the only houses Clarkes (or Clerks, in the modern spelling) are
found in are City Halls. 

Congrats, Michelle. 
--
\    Vincent Manis <manis@cs.ubc.ca>      "There is no law that vulgarity and
 \   Department of Computer Science      literary excellence cannot coexist."
 /\  University of British Columbia                        -- A. Trevor Hodge
/  \ Vancouver, BC, Canada V6T 1W5 (604) 228-2394
From: stevenso@Apple.COM (David Stevenson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Pride Parades
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:03:11 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

randyc@autodesk.com (Randy Clark) regrets:
>
>	never have met anyone new on Parade Day,
>	however.
>
Perhaps you should try wearing shorts that permit, nay encourage,
complete strangers to put their hand up them.