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From: rojohnso@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu ()
Subject: Robert Owens/Martha Wash
Originator: rojohnso@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:12:48 GMT

Hey guys..

I was just wondering if anyone heard anything about the career of one of the
most underrated vocalists in house music, Mr. Robert Owens?? You may not know
him by his name, but he was the voice behind many club hits including Frankie
Knuckles' hit from a few years back "So Many Tears" (theyre drippin and droppin
and droppin and drippin)...He had a record deal with Island Records where he
released an album, but was prematurely dropped from the label because he didnt
sell too well(probably because no one knows him by name!) and last year he had
a hit that went to the top of the dance charts "Ill Be Your Friend". The last
Ive heard he was overseas, where music is accepted much more freely that it is
in the states where you have to be contrived pop garbage in order to get air
play and sales...I was just wondering if anyone heard any news on him, besides
the fact that he in on 2 songs on Mr. Finger's new CD?? Did he find a label??
    
I was in a record store and saw a single from Martha Wash, the voice behind
Black Box who sued them and went solo...Just wondering if anyone heard the
new song?? Despite her great voice, I questioned just how successful she would
be as a solo artist since her career was practically dormant until Black Box
and C&C Music Factory revived it...anyone hear it?? who's producing her??

                                                Peace
                                                 RJ
From: janvirta@sara.cc.utu.fi
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Brothers in Rhythm
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:18:14 GMT
Organization: University of Turku, Finland

In article <1992Oct7.213329.22177@beaver.cs.washington.edu>, karty@cs.washington.edu (Richard Karty) writes:
> Who are Brothers in Rhythm? What are their best records?
> 
> I know them only from their remix of the Pet Shop Boys "how Can You
> Expect to be Taken Seriously" (called "perfect attitude mix") which I
> think is fantastic. Expecially the squeaky ping-y dripping noises
> going continuously in the background. And the minimalist piano.
> 
> thanks much
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> .
> .


Brothers in Rhythm: Steve Anderson and Dave Seaman
Their first single was "Peace & Harmony", the next one was "Such a Good
Feeling". They are also responsible for the remix of the Pet Shop Boys
"Seriously" and under the guise of the Creative Thieves "Nasty Rhythm".
They also produced "Was it worth it?" with PSB. That is all I know.

---JABDAH---
From: camper@buphy.bu.edu (Dan English)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: another song ID
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:23:28 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department
  "all you have to do is tell him now"
   -camper.

-- 
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From: chris@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Christian Bartholdsson)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: sesame's treat
Date: 16 Oct 1992 13:40:52 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: minsk.docs.uu.se

In article <854@dsbc.icl.co.uk>, andym@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Andrew D Milligan) writes:
> UK again has control. I only hope that by exploiting their new novelty
> status The Shamen (who've been making excellent dance music for over 5 years)
> can carry their new fan base into something deeper - their album and especially
> the associated remixes I consider ground breaking. 

Their album is ground breaking?  Well, if they can't think of more interesting
things to sing than "We're the Shamen!  And we're coming on strong!" I think
I'll pass and think back on how the real Shamen used to sound.  

- chris@minsk.docs.uu.se
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: disc@quads.uchicago.edu (Little Fluffy Cloud)
Subject: Re: Raves in Chicago
Reply-To: disc@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Something fatal.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:10:10 GMT

Raves.  Animotion is doing a party this Saturday which shouldn't be half bad.
Be warned that an exceptional amount of south-side doofuses will show up.
Jeff Mills from Underground Resistance will be spinning, which is the only 
reason why I'm going.  The party has Roger Rabbit on an entirely unexciting 
flier.  Should be easy to spot and easy to discard.

Be sure to pick upa copy of Reactor Magazine at your local shop.  It's free.
It's admittedly preachy.  It's really cool, though.  Chicago rave mag.  Fresh.

Look out for Sunday School.  Chicago OG underground on SUNDAY.  You heard it
here first.

Also look out for PRIVATE after hours next weekend.  Should be killer.

=Jerry Dischler=|Little Fluffy Cloud|=disc@quads.uchicago.edu=
One step ahead of the competition...
From: archive@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: SHAMEN ON YOU
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:16:04 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <1992Oct13.124106.4406@cs.hw.ac.uk>, censwm@cend3c7.caledonia.hw.ac.uk (Stuart W Munn) writes:
> The current UK No1 is Ebenezer Goode by the SHAMEN. It has the following line in it :
> 
> 	"Has anyone got any Vera's?"
> 
> Obviously this is some sort of rhyming slang, but what? Vera Lynns? or Vera Duckworths or what? and what are they anyway?
> 
  Vera Lynns = skins (?) 

Ye archiviste 
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: acw4@quads.uchicago.edu ("The Wan-ster")
Subject: FAQ for Raves?
Reply-To: acw4@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 03:36:09 GMT

I figure this would be as good of an introduction as any.
Does anyone have an FAQ on raves that they can send me?
Anything on what to expect, how to dress, dance, and the atmosphere,
costs, styles, etc.  would be much appreciated. (I'm just getting
an intro to ambient music myself =)  
Thanx much!

A.

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From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B))
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.misc,alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: What's this upcoming _Orbital Dance: Best Of Orbit_ compilation?
Date: 14 Oct 92 08:53:43 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <l7np!=l@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>I saw a disc called _Orbital Dance: The Best Of Orbit_ in the new releases
>list at a local shop yesterday.  Anyone have any idea what it is?  (It
>sounds like a compilation of William Orbit remixes to me, but I'm obsessive
>in that respect -- maybe there's a dance label named Orbit?)

We should be so lucky.  If this is what I saw at Leopold's several months
ago, it's a compilation of artists on "Orbit" records.  It was in the urban
dance section, and _none_ of the names sounded remotely familiar, so I passed
on it.  It was VERY hard to ignore the word "Orbital" on the cover, but I'm
almost positive it has nothing to do with the Orbital we know and love.

BTW, if you like William Orbit's stuff check out React 2 Rhythm's album 
"Whatever You Dream" - spacey, housy, not really techno, but very cool,
trademark William Orbit _sound_.  Has anyone heard D.O.P.?  It's also on
Guerrilla and sounds promising.

	Brian
From: archive@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Guerilla
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:11:51 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

> Has anyone heard D.O.P.?  It's also on
> Guerrilla and sounds promising.
> 
> 	Brian

  If you're interested in this then look out for a Guerilla compilation
which was released in the UK ac ouple of months ago. It's called DUB
HOUSE DISCO (in big letters on a yellow background)

D.O.P. are there twice, firstly with Groovy Beat (Rockin' to the rhythm
of a groove bay beeee) and allo Body Medusa (incl a Leftfield remix).
Other highlights include Superreal with United State of Love which
should have been a massive hit, Fuzzy Logic with Obsession, Two Shiny
Heads with Let's Go! Spooky (the name of the track escapes me but if you
can afford the 12" get it 'cause the piano mix is 10 times better, their
new single also groovy). Guerilla is a very dependable label, most
things I've heard from them have been ace, not your 160BPM stuff, but if
you're looking for a definition of sexy deep deep house then look no
further. Pete Tong (national radio DJ for our US cousins) has compaired
the label to the new Glasgow label 23rd Precinct. When I lived in Glasgow
this was a grubby downstairs record shop selling naff Euro-disco 12",
can they be related? Anyone in Glasgow like to fill us in? All I've
heard is Havanna (a song called Stumm (sp?)) pretty good. Also north of
the border does anyone know of Pussy Power Productions, I met some
people from them in Berlin, one was dj'ing (Jason?) the other was off her face.
Said they were setting up a priate radio station (National House or
something) I'd like to contact them again so an address or phone No
would be very useful. Ta.

Ye Archiviste

BTW there *is* a record label called Orbital, just to make things
complicated!
From: heneganj@cs.aston.ac.uk (Jason Henegan)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Song structure
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:10:00 GMT
Reply-To: heneganj@cs.aston.ac.uk
Organization: Aston University (Comp Sci)


Hello ravers,

Haven't you yet realised that rave music follows the same old four-beat
structure with the same old instruments?

Sad.
       /\__ ___ ___
      //\_//\__/\__\
     //_///_/ /_/_	:Jason Henegan	
 /\ //\_/ \_//\___\	:heneganj@uk.ac.aston.cs
/_/// //_/_//_/_
\__\\/ \\__\\___\
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: droe@cs.tcd.ie (David Roe)
Subject: Re: ACID SPECIAL
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin (Astrobiology)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 19:45:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.141742.7167@csd.uwe.ac.uk> pa_ross@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Mr Rossy) writes:
>Why did the old ravers used to drop Acid at raves ???????????????
>
>It is impossible to move your body coherently let alone do something hard like
>dance! If you ask me the whole Acid craze was just media hype.

Ehhh, while I'm no great shakes at dancing at the best of times, I've
gotta say that you are likely to be wrong. While people tend to have
different reactions to acid "impossible to move your body coherently" is
not common. In fact, in my experience dancing is the best thing to do
whilst out of your head since it focuses your mind on moving and the
music and prevents that dreadful introspection and navel gazing. 

Acid is a powerful, wild and freaky substance. This post should in no way
be presumed to encourage its use.


	Dave "Loony detector van _you_ mean" Roe


"20 Major please"   (a brand of Irish cigarettes)
	-me
"Do you want them heated up?"
	-the shopkeeper
"Yes, 20 of your finest hot cigarettes my good man."
	-me keeping my cool in spite of rampant weirdness at the 24 hour shop.
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: djgruber@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Dave Gruber)
Subject: What's this song? 
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:28:02 GMT

It's got a techno backround with a sample from Metallica's Master of Puppets,
the DJ at the club said it was "Techno Metal" by the Pope, or Pulp, or
something.  Am I close?

							Thanks,
							Dave
 


-- 
Dave Gruber
djgruber@vela.acs.oakland.edu  (Ultrix)
djgruber@argo.acs.oakland.edu  (VMS)
"Gene Simmons never had a personal computer when he was a kid."



Newsgroups: alt.rave,alt.is.too,alt.cascade
From: mbur@nyx.cs.du.edu (MAC)
Subject: Re: Song structure
Followup-To: alt.rave,alt.is.too,misc.test,alt.cascade
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 17:04:57 GMT

fred_s@earwax.pei.com (Fred Scott) writes:
>EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:
>>heneganj@cs.aston.ac.uk (Jason Henegan) writes:
>>>Haven't you yet realised that rave music follows the same old four-beat
>>>structure with the same old instruments?
>>No, it does not.
>Does TOO!
Does NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: pjaffe@next06cville.wam.umd.edu (Paul I. Jaffe)
Subject: another song/artist inquiry
Keywords: enquiry
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 06:55:20 GMT

	Does Anyone know the name and/or artist of a song that has a kind  
of cat-meowing sound followed by a young British girl saying "Always tell  
your mummy before you go off somewhere"

	Also, do a significant portion of you have NEXTmail?  It would  
make song id/sampling/everthing a lot easier.  Is there a binary techno  
ftp site or news group?

				-P

going to Sputnik!
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.misc
From: zisi@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Andreas Zisowsky)
Subject: Re: ignore Lazlo Nibble's outbursts
Keywords: Lazlo Nibble outburst knee-jerk
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:14:56 GMT

Hello folks,
somewhere I have seen the rule to write an answer to an article after a
few hours are gone. Maybe some people of earlier articles should act
along this rule.

Sometimes I am really glad that through my lack of English I cannot understand
all of those invectives...

Keep on writing flames! I want to keep /dev/nul busy!

Ciao.
Andreas

P.S.: I thought this group is for musical interests. Errare humanum est...

--

Andreas Zisowsky      -----       Internet: zisi@cs.tu-berlin.de

Microsoft is a company in the Twilight Zone...the world of the inexplicable...
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: b102smi@utarlg.uta.edu (George M. Smiley)
Subject: Re: 808 State's new single
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: 808 timebomb
Organization: The University of Texas at Arlington
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 21:23:00 GMT

cep@sage.cc.purdue.edu (CRAIG PFEIFER) writes...
>
>>..Also, has anyone heard 808 State's
>>newest single?? Ive seen it in the store, but never heard it.
> 
> 
>   I assume you mean the TimeBomb single (TBCD 540 , TimeBomb, Nimbus, Reaper
>Repo). TimeBomb is really good. It's more danceable and harder than EX:EL, and
>the other tracks are more ambient, with a beat, but still incredible.
>   Patiently awaiting their next major release...

They were playing an advanced copy at a record store I was shopping at.
The songs I heard suggest a bad trend for 808 State. They used to be
innovators, they set the tone for alot of other groups music, but, now
the reverse seems to be occuring. I mean its seems a little silly to me
that 808 State is doing breakbeat now that 'breakbeat' as defined by
London gurus has been replaced by 'tribal/trance' as the next big
label to slap on electronic music, but, the trance I've heard harks
back to Pacific. I only heard the album version of timebomb and some of
the song following it, so, maybe the rest of the album is more in a
traditional 808 State mold.

Interestingly enough, they played the A-side of the The Prodigys album
and it was slammin. Hard, fast, and extremely danceable breakbeat, the
way god intended. Not for the faint hearted.

Anways, the 808 State album is called _Gorgeous_ and it should be out
this upcoming Tuesday, the 13th. Perhaps some kind soul with an advanced
copy would reveiw it with a track listing before then. DJ's ??

George



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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Has MC5 anything to do with The KLF?
Date: 9 Oct 92 02:18:50 GMT
Organization: None for me, thanks . . . I'm driving.

EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:

> I challenge you to find *any* references of Bangs' to "punk rock" in
> Creem by or before '73.  If you do, I'll send you an issue of Bomp that I
> bought in '79 that still has the Police bumper sticker intact.  Plus, you
> like Devo, right?  I'll send you a Devo bootleg album that I bought in
> '80. 

You're too easy, man:

	"A big part of punk rock is the Great American (or English,
	 really) Teen Sublimation Riff.  Everybody wants to get laid
	 'twixt twelve and twenty, thinks about it round the clock in
	 fact, but most of their cogitation is neurotic energy-drain
	 stuff, with the result that we get Two Major Punk Rock Schools.
	 One overcompensates for teen neurosis with exaggerated
	 displays of macho arrogance driven home by vengeful hard-on
	 bass lines (Troggs being the supreme archetype), while the
	 other just freaks out, submerging the whole thing into highly
	 evolved, murky drug-lyric double entendres . . . "
	 -- from _Creem,_ October 1972, as reprinted in Lester Bangs'
	    _Psychotic Reactions And Carburetor Dung,_ (New York, Vintage
	    Books, 1988, ed. by Greil Marcus, IBSN 0-679-72045-6); p. 101.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: Has MC5 anything to do with The KLF?
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 02:44:31 GMT

In article <DAN.92Oct8130714@wombat.gnu.ai.mit.edu>
dan@wombat.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Dan Parmenter) writes:
 
>>Pretty early punk, if you ask me. I don't recall anyone even using the term
>>'punk' in the early '70s. BTW, the MC5 had some kind of loose affiliation with
>   That's OK.
>   Detroit rock radio stations that would never play the Pistols applied
>   the term retroactively to any old garage-band stlye music they felt like,
>   as if to justify their crappy programming practices.
>
>Excuse me?  As Lazlo points out, Lester Bangs had been using the term
>for years by the early seventies.  The first edition of the NUGGETS
>compilation, which was like '72 or '73 used the term "punk rock" to
>describe garage music.  My own father was in a garage band in the
>early seventies called Vellocette, and he assures me that people used
>the term "punk" as a formal description for these bands.
 
I thought the MC5 were primarily a late-'60s band. My point is that if
the term didn't exist when the band was around, then it shouldn't apply.
Then again, if it did, I'll happily stand corrected.
 
>"And now I'd like to play you the first hardcore (old definition -
>Dan) song I ever heard" - Ed, former WZBC deejay, prior to playing
>"You Really Got Me" by the Kinks.
 
They called it "mod" then, no?
 
--Eric
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: cs125b55@dcl-nxt27.cso.uiuc.edu (cs125 student)
Subject: Re: Satoshi/Marshall/Knuckles
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:45:43 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.144843.21179@javelin.sim.es.com>  
pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) writes:
> bt178@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David James) writes:
> 
> >BTW theres a cool article in the
> >new Roland Users Group magazine introducing their DJ70
> >workstation. Morales and Knuckles are interviewed, along
> >with one other DJ (can't remember), but it was kind
> >of interesting.
> 
> Knuckles was profiled and his keyboardist was interviewed.  What does  
Knuckles
> do these days anyway?  From the sound of the article, he just has a  
remixing
> team doing mixes under his name.
> -- 
> 		       "I'm Slash man, Slash!" - Slash
> 
I think that Knuckles is a DJ/mixer for a New York radio station.

					T.H.
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From: andym@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Andrew D Milligan)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Has MC5 anything to do with The KLF?
Date: 8 Oct 92 08:50:38 GMT
Followup-To: alt.rave
Organization: ICL Bracknell, UK

In article <george.718484799@windslc> george@windslc.nrel.gov writes:
>djd0873@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (p r u n e) writes:
>
>>In article <9227801.21982@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, moeller@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Mc Mars) writes:
>>>I know that The KLF sampled the quote "Kick out the JAMs" from the
>>>group MC5, but could anyone tell me what exactly the group MC5 actually
>>>is? 
>
>>	MC5 was an early punk rock band from Detroit, much along the same lines
>>as Iggy & the Stooges.  Not exactly rave material, but great if you're into
>>punk.
>
>Pretty early punk, if you ask me. I don't recall anyone even using the term
>'punk' in the early '70s. BTW, the MC5 had some kind of loose affiliation with
>the White Panther Party which was headquartered on Hill Street in Ann Arbor.
>(Anyone remember Brother John Sinclair?)
>-- 
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>Wind Research Program (formerly SERI)   VOICE: 303-231-7667
>National Renewable Energy Laboratory    1617 Cole Blvd., Golden, CO  80401-3393

Punk it certainly was if not in name in those days. Anyone who thinks that the
punk music made in the latter 70's was in any way new or different should
definitely check out the MC5's first album (recently reissued on CD) or the
ROIR tape of rarities. This all makes punk look very safe.
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
From: dan@wombat.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Dan Parmenter)
Subject: Hypnodrone Re: Has MC5 anything to do with The KLF?
Organization: /home/fsg/dan/.organization
	<1992Oct3.163104.27138@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:47:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct3.163104.27138@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> 
tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Todd J Sines) writes:

>the MC5 is an old guitar band that supposedly influnced minimalist guitar late 
>80's early 90's rockers like LOOP and SPACEMEN 3 (which evolved into SONIC 
>BOOM, then DARKSIDE and SPIRITUALIZED)

Ack, that's sort of a fucked chronology.  Spacemen 3 had Sonic Boom as
a member.  He released a solo album called Spectrum, and is now in a
BAND called Spectrum (with Jazz Butcher Conspirator Richard Formby).
Jason Spaceman, the other mover and shaker in S3 is in Spiritualized.
Willie Caruthers aka Pete Bassman was the bassist for S3 and is now
the bassist and singer for the Darkside, which also features former S3
drummer, Roscoe.  

The Spacemen were quite MC5 influenced and in fact, one of their most
memorable songs is a reworking of the Sun Ra/MC5 song "Starship".
The 17 minute "Starship" on the Spacemen's album The Perfect
Prescription, could easily fit in among some of the hardcore techno
I've heard.  It's actually a lot better than the MC5 version.  I've
been quite fascinated lately with the possibilities of mixing the two
styles.  Technodrone?  Psychno?  Technodelic?  

The Spacemen 3 "scene" is one of my favorites and I personally see a
lot of similarities between the best of the really trancey or ambient
stuff I've heard and the gorgeous drone of the Spacemen.  On
the Spacemen's last album, "Recurring", Sonic even wrote a song called
"Big City", which was his ode to going to all night dance parties and
hearing cool music and seeing cool people.  It's a really hypnotic
groove, though I have no idea if it's ever been played at any raves.  

- Dan
--
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| Dan Parmenter       |"I'm waiting for a time, when I can do without these  |
| dan@gnu.ai.mit.edu  | things that make me feel this way all of the time"   |
|                     |                            - Spiritualized           |
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ballms@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (BALLMS)
Subject: level
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: industrial/rave
Organization: Vanderbilt University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:42:00 GMT

industrial just hits another level, I like rave's assualt
on alpha level,,introspective in a different way 
than industrial, however, there is some rave that is tedious,
just like some industrial is just crap..  BTW, there is 
a rave thing occuring here,, what DO you people wear ?
Ive only been to industrial/rock concerts, want to help
me prevent a faux pas??  Mark.