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From: sagen@techbook.com (Milton Sagen)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Books on the Class 2 standard for faxmodems
Date: 26 Jul 92 00:47:06 GMT
Organization: TECHbooks of Beaverton Oregon - Public Access Unix

tnixon@hayes.com writes:

>...  Each manufacturer of these 
>ersatz "Class 2" modems has had to "fix" these flaws in their own 
>way, which has resulted in several differences between them; even if 
>you HAD a copy of that 1990 document, you wouldn't know how the 
>modems REALLY work.  The only source for that information is the 
>manufacturers themselves, and most of them are extremely reluctant 
>to provide this information to anyone but qualified developers of 
>commercial fax software.

I think this is an overstatement.  I've written fax software which I've
tested with four different implementations of the "ersatz Class 2" (or
as I prefer "pseudo Class 2") command set, and it worked just fine.
Granted, one of the implementations didn't have XOn/XOff flow control
but all the modem manufacturers had implemented CTS in fax mode, so it
didn't matter.  And I'll agree there are other inconsistencies, such as
whether the modem remains in +fclass=2 mode or not after sending a fax,
but for the most part these are easily discerned as the software is written
and tested with the different implementations.  I have never needed, yet,
to go to the manufacturers for this information.

BTW:  When I said four different implementations I didn't mean four
different modem manufacturers, all with the same fax firmware and fax
chips, I meant four different implementations of
the fax firmware, the fax chips within the modems came from three
different producers:

1.  Supra 24/96 - Rockwell firmware (I beleive) - Rockwell chip
2.  Prometheus 24/96 - Sierra firmware - Sierra chip
3.  MICC 24/96 - EXAR firmware (I beleive again) - EXAR chip
4.  Prometheus Ultima Home Office - Prometheus firmware - Rockwell chip
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Prometheus Products, Inc.                (503) 692-9600 (voice)
Tualatin, OR 97062                       (503) 691-1101 (fax)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: muhr@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Muhr)
Subject: WP/Win & WinFax
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 09:11:44 GMT

I a m using WinFax Pro and WordPerfect/Windows, latest (german)
release with screen zooming already included. 
The problem is, that grafics are not processed for fax transfer. Yes,
graphic printing is enabled! Is this a WP bug or is there some hidden
switch not configured correctly?
- Thomas
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From: jst@messua.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Juergen Stupperich)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Winfax with twincom 14400 ?
Date: 29 Jul 92 08:29:02 GMT
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen

Hi,
I'm using a twincom 14400 data+fax modem and would like to send fax with
winfax/pro. Receiving works fine, but sending doesn't:
After connecting I usually loose the carrier. 
If you know how to set the winfax init-string or something helpful, please 
let me know. How are you sending a fax with your twincom ?
Cleaning up my config and autoexec didn't help, there are no TSRs left, but
the problem remains.
Many thanks in advance,
                                  Juergen

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.dcom.modems
From: vldias@inesc.pt (Victor Lopes Dias)
Subject: Books on the Class 2 standard for faxmodems
Organization: INESC - Inst. Eng. Sistemas e Computadores, Lisboa - PORTUGAL
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:18:05 GMT

I need books, manuals or reference guides on the fax class 2 standard.
Can anyone send me a list of such books, where to find them and, if
possible, their prices (US$) ?

 Thanks. M.B.Moniz     (vldias@inesc.inesc.pt  -   PORTUGAL)
Xref: sparky comp.dcom.fax:1399 comp.dcom.modems:11038
From: tnixon@hayes.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Books on the Class 2 standard for faxmodems
Date: 23 Jul 92 10:36:14 GMT
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

n article <1992Jul21.161805.13646@inesc.pt>, vldias@inesc.pt (Victor
Lopes Dias) writes: 

> I need books, manuals or reference guides on the fax class 2 standard.
> Can anyone send me a list of such books, where to find them and, if
> possible, their prices (US$) ?

The problem is that there IS NO CLASS 2 STANDARD.  Modems on the 
market today claiming to be "Class 2" are based on the first 
circulated draft of that standard ("SP-2388") from August, 1990.  
There were many "no" votes on that draft because of significant 
technical flaws, so TIA (Telecommunications Industry Association, 
which is developing the standard) cancelled it and considers it 
obsolete.  As a result, copies of that document are not available 
from ANY official, authorized source.  Each manufacturer of these 
ersatz "Class 2" modems has had to "fix" these flaws in their own 
way, which has resulted in several differences between them; even if 
you HAD a copy of that 1990 document, you wouldn't know how the 
modems REALLY work.  The only source for that information is the 
manufacturers themselves, and most of them are extremely reluctant 
to provide this information to anyone but qualified developers of 
commercial fax software.

TIA is about to circulate what we hope will be the final draft of 
Class 2 for comment.  Once it is published (which I expect by the 
end of this summer), it will be available through all the usual 
sources for TIA documents.  But it will _not_ describe _any_ of the 
modems now on the market claiming to be "Class 2", since significant 
changes were necessary to correct the problems with the earlier 
drafts.

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Xref: sparky comp.dcom.fax:1405 comp.misc:2978
From: na@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Nita Avalani)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.misc
Subject: Looking for information on Fax modems
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:38:34 GMT
Followup-To: na@phoenix.princeton.edu
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU



I am looking for information on the best/worst fax modems (for 
macs) currently available, their features/unfeatures, cost, 
compatibility, and any other relevant information.  Thanks 
in advance.

		-Nita
Xref: sparky comp.dcom.fax:1413 comp.dcom.modems:11256 comp.sys.mac.comm:7384
From: wyle@synopsys.com (Mitch Wyle)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.dcom.modems,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: looking to buy network fax modem h/w, s/w Unix and Mac
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:12:51 GMT
Organization: Synopsys Inc.

I am still soliciting vendor marketing info and user stories
about hardware and software for network fax solutions.

We want to install a bunch of modems in a pool for out-going fax.
I would prefer if I could use the same pool both for Macs and Unix.

Eventually I want to add in-coming fax.

I do *NOT* need info about *INDIVIDUAL* machine fax hardware/software,
only NETWORK solutions.

I want to use modem pools and e-mail/appleshare/ftp gateways.

Ciao zusammen,

Mitch Wyle                     (415) 694 4076 (work)
Synopsys Inc                   (408) 255 1848 (home)
700 E. Middlefield Rd.         (415) 965 8637 (fax)
Mountain View, CA  94043-4033  (800) 843 5669 x4076 (VoiceMail)
From: aaron@AHKCUS.ORG (Aaron Y.T. Cheung)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Buying an Everex 24/96D and Everfax 24/96D overseas (Hong Kong)
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:03:29 GMT

Hi.  Wonder if somebody could kindly give me pointer as regards
where I could buy the (1) Everex 24/96D (2) Everfax 24/96D in 
Hong Kong?  Or, as well, the contact point for international
orders?

Thanks a million!
Aaron Cheung
aaron@ahkcus.org
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: sion@sioux.ctr.columbia.edu (Boudi Sahyoun)
Subject: Frecom Windows Software
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:42:01 GMT
X-Posted-From: sioux.ctr.columbia.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu


Has anybody tried the Windows software that comes as an option with
the Frecom Fax96 board?

Does it work well? Can I "print" directly from say Word for Windows 2.0
to the fax board?

any feedback will be appreciated.

Boudi

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.dcom.modems
From: kensaga@diku.dk (Kenneth Fribert)
Subject: Re: Books on the Class 2 standard for faxmodems
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:55:13 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

vldias@inesc.pt (Victor Lopes Dias) writes:

>I need books, manuals or reference guides on the fax class 2 standard.
>Can anyone send me a list of such books, where to find them and, if
>possible, their prices (US$) ?

Supra has two documents on their BBS, one with class1 and one with class2,
called class1.txt and class2.txt, try and look at their BBS no.:
+1 503-967-2444
Look under modem files I think

Best regards
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System currently in use: Amiga 2000, GVP Series II, Quantum 105S, SupraFax v32b
                         10 mb ram, MultiVision2000
From: jhpb@sarto.budd-lake.nj.us
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Date: 18 Jul 92 09:45 MDT
Subject: Re: Did anyone compile Netfax 3.2 on De
Nf-ID: #R:1992Jul15.204600.6864@arch.porta:-539168225:JHPB.92Jul18004519@sarto.budd-la:1917743734:001:592
Nf-From: sarto.budd-lake.nj.us!jhpb    Jul 18 09:45:00 1992


In article <1992Jul15.204600.6864@arch.portal.com> glenn@arch.portal.com (Glenn Rysko) writes:

   Did anyone successfully compile Netfax 3.2 on a '386 machine running
   Dell's SVR4?  If so, can you post the diff's to the net or reply to
   me via email.  

I did it under ESIX SVR4 and got only a few minor warnings,
surprisingly.  You need GNU make, and put /usr/ucb at the front of
your path before you run make, so you get the BSDish compiler
environment.

Before I get a flood of email, let me remark that I haven't got it
running yet with the ZyXEL, I have just started working on it.

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: chris@quay.ie (Christopher Davey)
Subject: Traffic  Manager
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:12:34 GMT
Organization: Quay Financial Software


Could you please give opinions on the best Fax Server/Gateway for  
OS/2 Lan Server v2.0. The workstations are at present OS/2 v2.0,1.32
and Windows 3.1. HPIII attached to server. At present I am looking
at Traffic Manager. A summrary will be posted  if any good info received
We use Lotus CCmail so it would be nice to be able to use this.
The file format of incoming faxes I would like to be usable, ie PCX etc
EMAIL replys to paul@quay.ie

Thanks!
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Quay Financial Software           Phone   :  +353 1 612377  Fax: +353 1 607592
From: erichow@pasvc.enet.dec.com (Eric Chow - DEC PASO HK)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: How can my modem/software identify VOICE/DATA/FAX call?
Date: 31 Jul 92 22:37:11 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

Hello there,

	I want to setup my DIGICOM Scount+ modem to receive data or fax using
 one telephone line which is also used as voice call.

	What software or hardware is needed in order to do this automatically.

	Any help is appreciated.

Eric. 
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From: tnixon@hayes.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Re: Class2 & Class 1?
Date: 24 Jul 92 12:47:40 GMT
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

In article <1992Jul24.021201.23755@mumbo.apple.com>,
johana!tsw@apple.com (Tom Watson) writes: 

> It is my understanding that the NEW (and as yet unpublished) Class 2 spec
> is similar to, or an enhancement of, an older (I think that is what it
> is) Class 1 spec.

There is really no overlap at all between Class 1 (ANSI/TIA/EIA-578) 
and either the ersatz 1990 "Class 2" or the real Class 2 (to be 
published as ANSI/TIA/EIA-592).

> Can somebody tell me:
> 1)  What is the difference.  A simple phrase will do here.

Class 1 defines a very small number of commands that allow software 
to directly control the hardware of the modem to turn on and off 
particular modulations and demodulations.  It specifies almost no 
intelligence in the modem as far as fax transfers are concerned.  
Class 2 requires that all of the T.30 fax negotiation protocols be 
implemented in the modem; the software controls these by a rather 
large set of parameters, rather than by sending T.30 frame itself.

> 2)  Is there a conversion program that will take Class 2 in and talk to
>     a class 1 modem (or am I dreaming here).

Such a thing is POSSIBLE.  I suppose it could be implemented as some 
kind of serial device driver.  I'm not aware of any in existence.

> 3)  Are most of the PC fax modems Class 1 based (I thought this was the
>     case).

Since Class 1 is the only adopted, published fax command set 
standard, I would guess that there are more Class 1 fax modems than 
"Class 2".  There are, unfortunately, a lot of "Class 2" modems on 
the market, based on the obsolete, cancelled 1990 draft of the 
standard; there are NO "real" Class 2 modems on the market, since 
the standard is not yet adopted.

> 4)  I have a Zoltrix Fax/Data modem and would like to talk to it
>     directly, is this a feasable thing to do, has anybody done it.

Not me.

> 5)  The previously discussed NetFax software, can it talk to the modem
>     I have or will I have to check what my current medication list
>     includes to get this concept correct.

Don't know.

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: johana!tsw@apple.com (Tom Watson)
Subject: Class2 & Class 1?
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 02:12:01 GMT
Organization: FBN/GRQ Ink.

It is my understanding that the NEW (and as yet unpublished) Class 2 spec
is similar to, or an enhancement of, an older (I think that is what it
is) Class 1 spec.

Can somebody tell me:
1)  What is the difference.  A simple phrase will do here.
2)  Is there a conversion program that will take Class 2 in and talk to
    a class 1 modem (or am I dreaming here).
3)  Are most of the PC fax modems Class 1 based (I thought this was the
    case).
4)  I have a Zoltrix Fax/Data modem and would like to talk to it
    directly, is this a feasable thing to do, has anybody done it.
5)  The previously discussed NetFax software, can it talk to the modem
    I have or will I have to check what my current medication list
    includes to get this concept correct.

Thanks for the assistance.
-----
Tom Watson
johana!tsw@apple.com

Xref: sparky comp.dcom.fax:1432 comp.dcom.modems:11439
From: sphilips@bach.udel.edu (Santosh S Philips)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax,comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Books on the Class 2 standard for faxmodems
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:05:02 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <1992Jul23.185513.4520@odin.diku.dk> kensaga@diku.dk (Kenneth Fribert) writes:
=>vldias@inesc.pt (Victor Lopes Dias) writes:
=>
=>>I need books, manuals or reference guides on the fax class 2 standard.
=>>Can anyone send me a list of such books, where to find them and, if
=>>possible, their prices (US$) ?
=>
=>Supra has two documents on their BBS, one with class1 and one with class2,
=>called class1.txt and class2.txt, try and look at their BBS no.:
=>+1 503-967-2444
=>Look under modem files I think
=>
=>Best regards
=>-- 
=>|/                 Fido-net: 2:230/41.14    Phonenet: (+45) 31 743 455
=>|\enneth  Fribert  Snailnet: Nedertoften 39, 1tv,  Dk-2720 Vanloese, Denmark
=>System currently in use: Amiga 2000, GVP Series II, Quantum 105S, SupraFax v32b
=>                         10 mb ram, MultiVision2000

Does this imply that the CLASS II standard had been "standardized" by the
CCITT?

My understanding is that the CLASS II implementation has not been finalized
yet.
The available documentation is only for PROPOSED for the CLASS II standard.

Any comments???

Santosh

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: weidmann@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Burkhard Weidmann)
Subject: OmniLink Laser
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 11:54:42 GMT

Does anybody have information on the

            OmniLink Laser by Prometheus  ?

I have been thinking to get faxed-up to the world for quite some time now,
but the evenly distributed pro's and con's of the different ways of doing so
kept me from making a decision.

On the one hand a fax/modem doesn't make me reachable 24 hours a day, unless
I keep my computer on all the time (but I don't want to do that). 
On the other hand a stand-alone fax machine doesn't permit the letters/
characters to be too small, because of the scanner (I also like to have neat
printouts reach the other end).

So I read this ad by "PC CONNECTION" in PC MAGAZINE Vol 11, No.12 (June 30, 92)
about the OmniLink Laser:

            "Automatically receive and print fax messages on 
            plain bond paper with your laser printer. Your PC 
            does not even need to be on .... $425."

This is it, I thought. Only, I don't have a laser printer. I would think,
that before the faxes are printed they need to be stored in memory. If I make
that memory big enough to store, say, some 20 pages, I can receive faxes and
don't have to be home. Later then I look at the fax mail on my computer screen 
and decide which fax I want to print out on my good old dot-matrix printer.

Is this possible at all ? Are there other products that serve me better at
about the same price ?

If somebody could give me Prometheus' address, I would also greatly 
appreciate it.


Georg

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From: dpm+@cs.cmu.edu (David Maynard)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Where to buy Distinctive Ring Detector?
Date: 27 Jul 92 21:16:32 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon


Can someone recommend a good place to buy a distinctive ring detector?  I
would like to find a mail order place that has a good price.  I tried
looking through Computer Shopper, but didn't see any ads listing them.  A
few random calls didn't work either.

I like the looks of the Autoline Plus, but haven't found a good source for
it.  ITS will sell me the Autoline Plus for list price ($139.95).  I asked
them about local or mail order dealers and got the phone number of a local
"company" that isn't in the phone book and doesn't answer the phone.

I called Lynx Automation to request dealer and product info, but haven't
heard from them yet.  I called Hello Direct and they are sending a catalog.

I scanned the comp.dcom.fax and comp.dcom.telecom archives, but didn't find
any dealer references.  It seems like I remember a post _somewhere_ that
listed some dealers who advertised in Computer Shopper.  I just don't
remember which group it was in.

Thanks,
David

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From: mcoyne@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Need Abaton software update
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:53:02 GMT
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada

I just bought a used Abaton InterFax 24/96 modem but the accompanying
software is not compatible with System 7. I would be grateful if
someone could send me a copy of the latest InterFax software (if it's
legal to do so) by snail or e-mail. I will happily pay for the disk 
and mailing costs. Thanks in advance.

Michael Coyne
Department of Visual Arts
Grenfell College
Memorial University of Newfoundland
Corner Brook, NFLD. Canada
A2H 6P9
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: zben@ni.umd.edu (Charles B. Cranston)
Subject: Pls suggest fax software for Zoom VFX modem
Organization: UM Home for the Terminally Analytical
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:06:38 GMT

Well, BackFax 1.05o just doesn't seem to work with my
new Zoom VFX modem.  Can anybody suggest a version of
BackFax that might, or clue me in to the latest and
greatest Mac-compatable Fax software at this point?

Sorry about the "beginner question", but I am indeed
a beginner in the fax world.  Will summarize and
email or post depending on number of requests...
From: fins@radgumbo.Corp.Sun.COM (fins@radgumbo.Corp.Sun.COM)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Robotics WorldPort questions
Date: 24 Jul 1992 18:16:42 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: fins@radgumbo.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: radgumbo.corp.sun.com

Has anyone worked with the HLF (High Level Fax) Interface Specification
for the US Robotics Worldport (w/V.42bis) fax modem?  

I am wondering if it accepts the Class 2 commands or if it only accepts
its own "powerful" proprietary extended fax command set?  I am
working on programming an interface under SunOS. . . 

I would appreciate any hints from anyone who has developed for this
modem, especially in the sending of fax data mode and how it interprets
ends of page data being sent . . .

Thanks,


---
Rich Schiavi
fins@radgumbo.Corp.Sun.COM


Newsgroups: comp.dcom.cell-relay
From: tjs@uh.msc.edu (Tim Salo)
Subject: ATM SBus Interface RFI?
Organization: Minnesota Supercomputer Center, Minneapolis, MN
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:38:38 GMT

Has anyone developed a Request for Information (RFI) to assist in
the selection of ATM interface cards for Sun Microsystems' 
SPARCStations?

Tim Salo
tjs@msc.edu