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From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Brainless legal decisions about newborns.
Keywords: brain death, brainstem life
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:55:08 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <1992Apr13.165734.21889@pegasus.com> tas@pegasus.com (Len Howard) writes:
>
>Thanks, Gordon.  That makes very clear that they are still not
>considering anencephaly as a problem.  They were using a functional
>crierion as you described.  Guess the appoach should be a permissive
>on allowing parents of anencephalic infants to donate the organs of
>these infants to otheres even if doing so shortens an already short
>life.  My experience is that many parents wish to have some good come
>out of such a tragedy, and the law is not fulfilling its intent to
>prevent harm in this case.

My approach would be to require a functioning or potentially
functioning cerebrum in a legal definition of a person.  I
do not consider an infant born without one to be a person,
nor a potential person.  I don't want to get into arguments
as to whether it has a soul or should be baptized or anything
like that.  If I had such an infant myself, I would be inclined
to neither name it nor give it a funeral.  I would consider it
as I would a miscarriage.
I would not put restrictive laws on what could be
done with the organs of something that is not a person.  That
should be up to the parents.

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From: george@ibmpcug.co.uk (Michael Veltman)
Newsgroups: sci.med,connect.audit
Subject: Re: gallbladder disease
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:42:05 GMT
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.

Dear Sandy,

Fatty foods mean any thing with fat in it, not any food which can
make you fat (all foods potentially can make you fat, if you eat
enough of them)

Fat causes your gall bladder to try to empty and release the bile
stored in it, to help dissolve the fat into a form that can be 
absorbed (essentially, it mops them up into micelles).

If you have gall bladder problems, then this can causes pain.

carbohydrates and protien will not do this.

NOTE: fat is an essential part of the diet.  Small quantities of
fat are required for life.  Just don't eat too much of it?

How much?  Well, people get about 40 - 50 % of their energy from
fat in many western diets.  (Please, I know many eat less than this)

I'm not a dietitian, but I'd say that if you keep it under 10 - 20%
of your calorific intake, you will probably have less problems with
gall bladder pain

Hope this helps,

Michale

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Michael Veltman         George@ibmpcug.co.uk
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Brainless legal decisions about newborns.
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:07:37 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <19525@suned1.Nswses.Navy.MIL> laura@TASVAX.NSWSES.NAVY.MIL writes:
>In article <14383@pitt.UUCP>, geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks) writes:
>>In article <19496@suned1.Nswses.Navy.MIL> laura@TASVAX.NSWSES.NAVY.MIL writes:
>
>>>My baby responds to warmth and sound, and has even
>>>started to explore his environment.  He has all of the same ssystems
>>>that I have,
>
>>If I were to cut off your little toe and culture the cells from it,
>>they would all have exactly the same DNA you do, and are thus human.
>>But they would not be a person.
>
>Ah yes, Gordon, but I don't think these same cells would have
>the same sytems as I, nor would they respond to warmth or sound, nor
>would they explore their environment.  Thus, I cannot see the basis for 
>this correlation.

Trees respond to warmth.  You don't need a brain to do that.  Your
baby is very likely a normal one, and thus may indeed be "exploring
its environment".  An anencephalic infant may move and kick, but
it is not exploring anything, but merely moving reflexively.
You can have reflex movements without a brain and they don't
mean that a person is there.  Anencephalics are not even potential
persons.  They all die very soon after birth.



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From: gaumondp@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Gaumond Pierre)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Bernie S. Siegel
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:40:38 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Have you read the last book of Bernie S. Siegel: "Peace, Love and Health".

He claims that while under anesthesia, the unconscious mind remains "awake",
that is, it can respond to the suggestion of the surgeon. For example, he cited 
a case where a person having an organ transplant needed only 3 units of blood
while about 200 units are usually needed. He said he suggested to the patient
under anesthesia not to bleed.

He gives other examples where he suggested the patient to modify his heart
beat and the patient responded accordingly.

Has anyone worked with Bernie or see what he claims? Has anyone else tried the
same suggestions with success?

Can we really believe in his claims?

I cross-posted this article because it concerns both surgery and psychology
aspects.

I have already posted an article asking if there exists some "hypnotic" drugs
that can help in psychotherapy. If Bernie Siegel's claims are true, the standard
anesthesics ARE precisely the best "hypnotic" drug I was looking for.

Another thing, drugs used for anesthesia are composed from more than one
substances, one having its own purpose. Can anyone give me a short description
of these substances and their purpose. Perhaps only one of them could be
necessary as an hypnotic.

Thanks for any information.

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Newsgroups: sci.med
From: dfp10@thor.albany.edu (D Parsons)
Subject: French Communicable Disease Network for USA?
Originator: dfp10@thor.albany.edu
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 13:51:37 GMT

 In case some of you do not know about the FDCN it collects weekly reports
about communicable diseases from volunteer practitioners in the provences
of France and adds health dept test results. The data are processed and 	returned as videotex to the GPs. They then know what is in their area or 
heading towards them. Most GPs use the Minitel for this but there is an 	ASCII format for PCs.
	Philippe Garnerin of the FCDN is willing to help with the software
so I wonder why CDC etc cannot give this service via Internet. I spoke to 
Howard Ory, head of information resources at CDC and he says they are moving	to a more "open" policy of releasing their results on Internet but had not
considered the FCDN format. So now it is a question of how many doctors,
statisticians and public health people are interested in having FCDN?
  You can view the English version via an Interentaional PIN on Sprintnet
I can give the details if anyone is interested. Don
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: carpal tunnel syndrome
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:46:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <1992Apr6.212900.21307@ssc.wa.com> bel@ssc.wa.com (Belinda Frazier) writes:
>
>Re: the night braces for those with carpal tunnel syndrome:,
>
>Are the night braces available commercially, or must one get
>a prescription and/or a special fitting?
>
>
Any medical supply should have them and most have a person who
can fit them.  They may decline to do so without a prescription,
however.  This would be to protect them from liability.
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From: francis@ircam.fr (Joseph Francis)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Tanning Re: Lime juice and lots of sun
Date: 16 Apr 92 11:37:13 GMT
Organization: IRCAM, Paris (France)

In article <1992Apr16.000106.6376@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.175739.26961@tandem.com> day_kevran@tandem.tandem.com (Kevran Day ) writes:
>>> There is a psoralens compound in lime juice and in figs.  When this
>>> chemical is present and the body is exposed to intense sun light
>>> blotches will come up on the skin.
>>
>>This is very interesting!  I remember that in college some friends were taking a 
>>"tanning" pill called Trisoralen (sp)!  Of course, this was many years before the
>>skin cancer consciousness brought us sunblocks to SPF 30!  The tanning pill had
>>to be prescribed and was very effective.
>
>Trioxsalen (tradename, Trisoralen--you got it right) is a psoralen
>used to treat vitiligo and to enhance tanning.  It can cause a
>nasty burn if you're not exquisitely careful about following the
>timed schedule of exposures to the sun over successive days.
>That is, it's not an innocuous drug.
>
>I tried it years ago; it made me itch all over.  I don't think
>that's a common side-effect, but it squelched my enthusiasm for
>further experimentation.

That sounds interesting; granted that I never, ever go out in the sun,
but in turn not liking having the male version of the almost translucent
white skin Vargas popularized, I'd love to become darker... Is that
the intended effect?
-- 
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| today; American - All American; doing, a bit so, and even more so.
From: weisenfl@sunshine.ICS.UCI.EDU (Barbara Weisenfluh)
Subject: Recommendations for an Excellent Medical Clinic
Newsgroups: sci.med
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:51:13 GMT

I am seeking knowledgeable recommendations for the best medical facility
to go to for a diagnosis of severe pain in the lower back area, cause unknown.
The Mayo Clinic is the only one with which we are familiar, and wonder
if this would be the best place to go.  Many tests and many physicians
have not really yielded a sound diagnosis.

Thank you,

Barbara
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Alcor Nevada
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:02:09 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <57215@cup.portal.com> Eric_S_Klien@cup.portal.com writes:
>Alcor Nevada will be meeting Sunday April 12th at 5 PM at the 
>Riverside Casino owned by Don Laughlin in Laughlin, Nevada.  Don 
>Laughlin will be attending our meeting.  The use of cryonic 
>suspension as a last ditch effort for AIDS patients will be 
>discussed.  For more info call Eric Klien at (702) 255-1355.  


Well, if you are going to gamble, might as well do it where it
is legal.
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Newsgroups: sci.med
From: jac1@ra.msstate.edu (Jennifer Cox)
Subject: Nurse Practicioners
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 17:24:29 GMT



Pardon the spelling of the subject...

Anyway...  What is a nurse practitioner? How much training do they get?
What kind of degree do they get?  And what are they allowed to do?

I just heard of someone talking about them and was wondering about the
stuff.  They also have the here at the health center.

Thanks.

Jennifer
From: fortmapl@UDAVXB.OCA.UDAYTON.EDU ("Paul Fortman : free spirit")
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: RE: Causing breasts to lactate
Date: 15 Apr 92 05:12:00 GMT


	From: eang42@castle.ed.ac.uk (L Bootland)
	Subject: Re: Causing breasts to lactate
 
	Yes a woman can lactate without having a child. Hormone treatment will
	work. So will suckling. A woman who applies a breast pump to her breasts
	frequently will start to lactate, as will a woman who suckles a child.
	There is apparatus available which enables the child to get food during
	the process. Basically, it is a container with a tube which is fixed to
	the breast so that the child takes the end of the tube into its mouth
	when it takes the nipple in.  Can't remember where I saw the info on

Maybe I'm missing something.  Why would you use some artificial
apperatus to nurse a child when breast feeding is natural and is 
an innate behavior for infants.  I just can't imagine using a
tube instead allowing a child to suck the actual nipple.  The
bonding that takes place through physical contact between the 
mother and child is very important.

Is it possible for a man's breast to lactate?

Ciao.

Paul
From: davef@cs.ubc.ca (David Finkelstein)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Brainless legal decisions about newborns.
Date: 8 Apr 92 04:47:13 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada

In article <19255@suned1.Nswses.Navy.MIL> laura@TASVAX.NSWSES.NAVY.MIL writes:
>In article <14230@pitt.UUCP>, geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks) writes:
>
>>the main argument against (or at least my perception of it)
>>is that this practice would be the first instance of actually
>>killing something in order to get organs for transplant.
>
>What is the status of a brain dead patient?  Is it alright to take out
>organs?  Can't these babies be classified as brain dead?  I thought 
>brain dead pretty much meant "dead".  Could it really be classified as
>"killing something in order to get organs"?

No, that's the problem.  Many of these babies still have some
functional brain stem, and cannot be classified as being brain dead
according to the definitions of brain death.

The solution is to change the laws to allow organ harvesting from
"alive" anencephalic babies, or "legally dead" needs to be redefined
to included "born without a brain".  Which rule do you change?  "No
harvesting from living people" or "Brain death is the only acceptable
definition of death"?  Or should we refrain from making any
exceptions?

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David Finkelstein
University of British Columbia
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Possible seizure
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:45:07 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <17449.29E1B123@stjhmc.fidonet.org> Daniel.Prince@p327.f531.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Daniel Prince) writes:
>In spite of getting up slowly I frequently feel very faint just after I get 
>out of bed.  Usually all that happens is that my vision fades to black and 
>white, and then to black, starting from the peripheral vision and progressing 
>to the central vision over the course of a few seconds.  I also feel very 
>faint and weak.  I usually just stop and wait for the symptoms to pass (which 
>they do in a few seconds).
>
>Yesterday I had an episode of feeling faint that was different.  Just after my 
>vision faded away completely, my right arm and leg jerked very strongly three 
>to five times, and then it was over and I was back to normal.  The muscular 
>action was so strong that my right biceps was sore afterward.  I know it was 
>the jerking that caused the soreness because I usually do several pushups and 
>pull-ups daily but I had not that day or the day before.
>
>Was this technically a seizure?  Is it something I should be concerned about?  
>If so, how concerned should I be?  What should I do about it?  Thank you in 
>advance for any replies.
>
>
Probably not.  But it may indicate that you are letting yourself go
to far into a faint.  You really should not let things get to the point
of your vision fading to black completely.  There is little margin
between that and losing consciousness.  Myoclonic jerks such as you
describe commonly occur with cerebral ischemia which is the cause of
fainting.  I don't recall seeing it in a conscious patient before,
but it could happen.  The only way to be sure it wasn't a focal seizure
would be to have you strapped to an EEG when it occurred.  You should
get up slower and allow your blood to redistribute before becoming
fully standing.  You may also want to be checked out to see why
you have such orthostatic hypotension, although it isn't uncommon
to have some degree of it.  If you have any jerking without the
fading to black on rising, then a seizure would be more likely
and you will need a workup.  If you are on medication, you definitely
better tell your doctor about what is going on with the blacking out.

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From: coody@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Glycemic Reactions
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:28:04 GMT
Organization: Northern Arizona University

I am curious about hypoglycemia and it's symptoms.  At age 8 I was
diagnosed as borderline diabetic and my diet was adjusted accordingly.
When I left home for school at 18, I naturally abused and neglected
my diet until recently at age 36.  Currently I have returned to my
old diet due to symptoms which resemble a "hangover"; nausea,
dizzyness, headaches and etc.... these symptoms seem to come on
from skipping a meal or consumption of some refined sugar to get
me back on track (a sudden high and then a sudden low).  My doctor
claims that there is nothing wrong with me, yet co-workers claim
my symptoms are like those of an individual with hypoglycemia.
Anyone with thoughts on this matter are welcome to respond, I
am tired of feeling this way.

Thanks Bob
Xref: sparky sci.med:8525 soc.culture.caribbean:822
From: bb@generali.harvard.edu (Brent Byer)
Newsgroups: sci.med,soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Can we buy longevity ?? -- Think about it.
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:45:23 GMT
Organization: Textware, Cambridge, MA

[ Source of Data :  CIA World Factbook, 1990 ]

=============================

    Countries with Avg. Life Expectancy >= 75 yrs. and Avg. GDP (*) <= $2000.

Country				Avg Life Expectancy	Avg GDP

Albania				75   (72 M, 78 F)	$1,200
Costa Rica			76.5 (74 M, 79 F)	$1,630
Cuba				75.5 (73 M, 78 F)	$2,000
Dominica			76   (73 M, 79 F)	$1,408
Jamaica				77   (75 M, 79 F)	$1,529

 (*) Gross Domestic Product (per capita)

==============================

    ( For Comparison )

Country				Avg Life Expectancy	Avg GDP

Canada				77.5 (74 M, 81 F)	$19,600
France				77.5 (73 M, 82 F)	$14,600
Germany, Federal Republic of	77   (73 M, 81 F)	$15,300
Japan				79   (76 M, 82 F)	$15,600
Netherlands			77.5 (74 M, 81 F)	$13,900
United Kingdom			76   (73 M, 79 F)	$14,300
United States			76.5 (73 M, 80 F)	$21,082
From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Suicide prevention; what next?
Date: 11 Apr 92 14:06:32 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department

In article <1992Apr11.012904.967@gumby.dsd.trw.com> suhre@meltami.dsd.trw.com (Maurice E. Suhre) writes:
>In article <44802@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:
>>He was a reformed alcoholic,
 	      ^^^^^^^^

>It's not a political correctness issue, but the term should be
>"recovered" or "recovering".  Remember, alcoholics aren't sinners who
>need to reform (even though there may have been some very bad behavior
>and they may owe a lot of emends), they are just sick people who need
>to get well.

>If you get super technical, the alcoholic is never "recovered" in the
>sense that he/she can drink normally.

			................

I maintain that my use of the English language is correct and more 
descriptive.  When we talk of reforming an educational system or a
tax structure, there is no presumption of sin, only a condition which
"should" be changed.  In this case, he had changed his behavior to the
extent that he would not consider consuming alcohol.  You yourself 
point out that "recovered" does not convey the correct meaning.
-- 
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From: mcovingt@athena.cs.uga.edu (Michael A. Covington)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Get Prescription Drugs Without Prescription - Mail Order
Date: 11 Apr 92 03:30:44 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Apr10.221726.9729@eng.umd.edu> georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:

>                           Recommended Drugs
>
>Dilantin should be given to your children in 50mg-100mg doses, twice
>per day. It takes effect within an hour. In thousands of studied cases,
>it has been shown to increase concentration, intelligence, learning
>ability, memory, and verbal performance.

Hmmm.  Parents who drug their children without medical approval
should be aware that they may face _severe_ legal liability if anything
goes wrong, or possibly if the child simply decides after reaching
adulthood that his rights were violated.

How would _you_ feel if, all through your childhood, your parents had
given you a mind-altering drug without the approval or supervision of
a doctor, simply because they _thought_ it improved your performance?

Anyhow, I thought Dilantin often had sedative side effects.
Am I mis-remembering?

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From: lmtra@uts.amdahl.com (Leon Traister)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: prAspirin and Prostaglandins
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:44:09 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Many people, men especially, take small doses of aspirin daily if they
have cardiac risk factors.  The aspirin is said to be an
"anti-prostaglandin" agent.  OK, so what are the functions of
prostaglandins; would an anti-prostaglandin have any effect on male
fertility?

Thanks in advance.
Leon Traister (lmtra@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com)
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