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From: thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Tape drive questions
Date: Sun,  4 Oct 92 23:12:23 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

In article <19921004205602.3.KAREN@ETHEL.MCC.COM>
ai.pittman@mcc.com (Karen Pittman) writes:

|  We are looking for a tape drive with which to do system backups.  We'd
|  like something with low media cost and a capacity in the 2 gig range.
|   
|  I have seen 2 gig DAT tape drives (Sony, Wangtek) advertised with other
|  Amiga hardware, but have not seen any 8mm drives advertised to Amiga
|  users.  
|  
|  Do you know of an 8mm drive that Quarterback or Amiback (or
|  some other backup software I'm unaware of) can control?
|  
|  If you have had experiences which lead you to believe DAT, 8mm, or some
|  other format is superior with regard to economy, data integrity and
|  hassle-free-ness in face of huge archives (we are talking
|  over-a-gigabyte), we'd like to hear from you.  ...

Seems like an Exabyte EXB-8200 would be perfect for your application.

From my own experience, an EXB-8200 (with 8mm camcorder tapes) works well on
the Amiga with Hardframe and Supra SCSI interfaces driven by BTNtape using
AmigaTAR.  BTNtape and AmigaTAR are on Fish disks (i.e. "free").

I also use Exabyte on most my other systems (HP, SGI, Sun, DEC,etc.) so media
interchange is facilitated.  Try moving 200MB of, say, X11R5 stuff otherwise!

Plus, the 8mm media is inexpensive.  A pack of three SONY tapes cost < $20
at the local Price Club.  Everyone I know who uses Exabytes buys their tapes
there, too (this includes colleagues at HP Labs).

And I also opted for an Exabyte on my latest VAX purchase; no way will I
mess with 4mm DAT (stuff's expensive).

I also use Archive QIC-150 and QIC-525, but that's only up to 500MB.  So for
1+ GB the 8mm seems the way to go today.

Note the EXB-8200 can store up to approx. 2.2 or 2.3 GB, and the EXB-8500 can
store up to nearly 5GB per tape.
From: ccsw@bristol.ac.uk (EthaStorm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: - CD-ROM (anyone interested?)
Date: 1 Oct 92 07:38:31 GMT
Organization: University of Bristol, England



Jukka,
   It's a wonderful idea. What little help I acn give is on offer to you
(possibly finance!)

     EthaStorm   *8)

   Steff.Watkins@bristol.ac.uk
From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Problems with the A4000
Date: 26 Sep 92 06:22:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Sep25.232256.2502
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


 > Hey, Hold on there!  I bought a 16mhz 3000!

No prob.  It's a decent machine; just not one that is produced any more.


 > ...once an '040 is dropped in, you can't tell the difference...

How true... and would I ever LOVE to do that to my 25 MHz A3000.  Of
course, there probably will be 33 and 40 MHz versions of the 040
eventually.  ;-)


 > The main reason why the A4000 has IDE(and while I thought it was
 > a dumb idea at the time, I don't anymore) is so that *low end* machines
 > can be introduced  and the costs kept down.

Ok, that's the plan.  But in the opinion of MANY Amiga users, it IS kind of
a dumb idea.  The savings seem miniscule for the resulting loss in
performance and expandability.  If you want a CD-ROM drive, tape drive,
etc. you'll just have to buy a SCSI card anyway.  How about that IDE HD?
Have to sell it and then buy a new SCSI drive? Hmmm...


 > The 4000 isn't high end, it is a rather convoluted midrange.

Agreed.  Hence the confusion that parts of this design is causing.  While
most Amiga users are not engineers, systems analysts, CS, etc. we ARE
fairly computer literate.  At least sufficiently so to at least question C=
when something looks flakey... and IDE looks that way to lots of us.

Nice as the A4000 is, I feel no real need to rush out and buy one.  It
definitely appears to be a platform still under construction.  Once the
video standard (DIG/RTG), improved sound, and the SCSI things have been
solved to general satisfaction, we can worry about floppy down that long
green.  I guess I'll just have to suffer along with my A3000 25-100 until
then.  ;-)




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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Magnavox 8cm515
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1992 23:52:33 GMT
Summary: Cabling, quality, as stock Amiga monitor.

Has anyone out there experience with the Magnavox 8mc515 on the Amiga? I've
got a decent price on a used one, but I need to know how to cable it up.
-- 
Peter da Silva.  <peter@sugar.neosoft.com>.
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  'U`  
Kunt u mij de weg wijzen naar het dichtsbijzijnde intelligente zoogdier?
From: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Rockerboy)
Subject: Re: PAL/NTSC
Organization: Lakes Public Access
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 20:55:15 GMT

robertr@odie.cs.mun.ca (Robert Randell) writes:

> Hi. Perhaps someone can help me here.
> 
> I recently installed a fatter agnus (along with 2 megs fast memory) into
> my 500. One of the things I was looking forward to doing was running PAL
> programs. I can see the whole screen all right, but the speed of execution
> is noticeably slower. This is especially apparent for demos and games...
> slower music and object movement. I suspect that it has to do with the 
> different scan rates between PAL and NTSC, but I know very little about this.
> 
> So, could someone offer me an explanation for the phenomenon, and, even bette
> a method of possibly overcoming the slow-down?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> - Robert Randell

You're perfectly correct, the scan rate does have something to do with 
it.  Quite a bit of software and music is keyed to the raster beam (it 
keeps everything snced so that you don't have fuzzies and glitches when 
you move things on the screen.)  If you are indeed playing pal things, 
then you are hearing the music at the speed it was intended, most likely. 
There are timing tricky you can do to make music composed at 50hz play at 
60hz, but if the screen had not been fixed, I suspect the music had not 
either.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: music@moravian.edu (Steve Heller)
Subject: Are the Fish 731-740 available via ftp yet?
Keywords: fish, ftp
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 22:30:20 EDT

I'm looking for the latest fish disks via ftp? Anyone know where they
might be?
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From: yurick@vaxr.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: "Family Values"...& vulgar programs!
Date: 1 Oct 92 05:29:37 GMT
Organization: LLNL_LIS

In article <gem6fjG00j_HA0ZVx=@cs.cmu.edu>, Michael.Witbrock@cs.cmu.edu writes:
>> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.amiga.misc: 29-Sep-92 Re: Return of
>> "Family Value.. yurick@vaxb.llnl.gov (1724)
> 
>> Ditto!!!  I recently downloaded a PD utility program, from a local BBS. 
>> When
>> I pulled down one of the menu's, I saw a few choice words that DID NOT
>> belong
>> there.  The programmer was obviously working with a grade-school
>> mentality.  I
>> thought about editing the program to change the vulgarities, but then
>> about a
>> nano-second later, I decided to simply delete the program all together. 
>> I
>> think the better choice was made.
> 
> 
> If the programmer thought the words belonged there, then I'd say they
> belonged there. 

HUH???  No matter how hard you try to convince me, I don't believe that F*CK,
S*IT, etc. belong in a program that is distributed to the general public.  If
this author wanted to write this program, and give it to his/her friends, then
fine.  But when it could go out to young people, or adults that would be
offended, then NO it DOES NOT belong there.  Sorry, but you give a pretty lame
excuse for supporting vulgarity in a program.  (In a pull-down menu option, no
less!)  I am no prude, and I've said (and heard) all of the 4 letter words you
can imagine.  But there are wrong times to use these words.  Most people would
not stand-up, in the middle of a church sermon, and yell out F*CK YOU.  It's
not acceptable.  Neither was what this author did.  Let's attempt to be
professional.

> A program is, to some extent, and artistic expression
> reflecting its creator's personality. If you don't like that expression,
> then the appropriate action (which the author of the quoted letter took)
> is not view the work that contains it.  

Nowhere was there a warning that "Some material might not be suitable...", and
even if it was in a doc file, a lot of people try out the program BEFORE they
read the docs.  Sad, but true.

> I might even go so far as to think that editing the program to remove the 
> vulgarisms was immoral.

Possibly that might be true, (and I carefully chose the word "possibly" here), 
so I simply deleted the program.

> On practical grounds, I think I'd rather see people vent  their
> particular frustrations by putting naughty words in menus than by
> writing viri or neo-nazi propaganda games.

I guess it would be better for someone to kill my dog with a shot-gun, rather
than have him/her use the gun on my family...but that doesn't mean I have to
like (or accept) either avenue of frustration relief!!!

I do not like viruses, or hate games, or whatever, but lets vent our
frustrations in ways that don't affect others.

My views and they belong to me!
Joe
From: smithmn@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: locale.library, where is it?
Date: 27 Sep 92 00:16:44 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

Could someone please direct me to a recenet version of locale.library?
I tried archie, with no success. :( so someone might want to put on a
FTP site.
 
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From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Contest - win your own A4000
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:38:47 GMT
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


 > >9. Contest is open only to residents of the U.S. and Canada.

 > And what about us in Europe???


Yet another benefit of living out here on the great American Amiga
frontier.  This is a payback for all the great goodies you Europeans get in
huge quantity and sooner than we do here in N.Am.  

Just kidding!  Flames >NIL:   ;-)




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From: joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: "Family Values"...& vulgar programs!
Date: Thu,  1 Oct 92 00:11:35 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Sep28.175523.1@vaxb.llnl.gov> <gem6fjG00j_HA0ZVx=@cs.cmu.edu>
  <1992Sep30.075650.28510@bristol.ac.uk> <jpuzzo.717866866@husc10>

>ccsw@bristol.ac.uk (EthaStorm) writes:
>
>>I think there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON for swearing in a utility program. A de
m
>o
[Clear and objebtive vview on why swearing isn't needed or welcomed in
software menus]

>I think you need to sit down and have a cool drink.  There is just NO need for
>you to get so ruffled just because some programmer decided to use certain

I didn't detect that he was ruffled.  Get off YOUR high horse.

>words in certain places.  Maybe you come from "nowheresville" or something,
>but people swear in the real world.  They really do.  And they even do it just
>because it's a habit.  Not to cheese you off or to make a joke.  I can see

People also sh*t.  That doesn't mean they have to do it in public,
where either kids or those who don't like to watch it and are not expecting
it must look at it.

>that if you are SO offended by a few choice words that you'll scrap a demo,

If you will read the poster's message (instead of looking down your nose at
it without reading) you'd see he specifically said his comments were aimed
at utils and not JUST at demos.

Let me ask you...  would "scrap" a program that was blatantly offensive to
your, your wife/husband or kids?  How about if it had some bugs that crashed
your machine... or functions that didn't work right?  

And what is your definition of "choice words."

>you're being a bit TOO discriminating.  And I don't know why you insist on

I think the others have NO judgement or consideration.

>believing that the guys stuck in swearing 'cause their code otherwise wasn't
>very good.  In some parts of the world, people talk and write that way.  They

And in some parts they dress in rags and eat cockroaches.  So?  Why should
we not progress?

>really do.  Case closed.

Hardly.

>
>James Puzzo
>jpuzzo@husc
>

Follow up to null:

-Joel
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: jmrg9881@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon Reid)
Subject: Help, I have a flaky modem...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:25:59 GMT

I have a Supra 2400zi, which suddenly doesn't like me anymore.  When I turn
on my machine and use it *right away*, it works fine.  But once the machine
starts warming up, whenever I dial, it "picks up" the phone and almost
immediately gets a carrier detect and stops without dialing.

This has only started happening in the last few days, as temperatures have
dropped.  Any hints - clues - ideas?  The modem is almost 2 years old.

And what's the phone number for Supra tech support?  I tried calling (503)
967-9081, only to get a "This number has been disconnected" message.

*Any* tips would be greatly appreciated, as this is *extremely*
frustrating.

-- 
Jon Reid    j-reid@uiuc.edu    GEnie: THE.REIDS
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."
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From: mohrc@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,aus.computers.amiga
Subject: Re: Data exchange between Amiga and IBM PC
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:14:59 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University

In article <1992Oct2.065336.28962@marlin.jcu.edu.au> phsbs@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Simon Spagnol) writes:
>
>Hello Netters,
>        I have some queries about the transfer of large amount of 
>data between an Amiga and an IBM PC. I would appreciate any comments
>or suggestions on the following schemes under consideration from people 
>who have attempted this sort of thing.
>

I'll post here since others might want to know this.
get twinexpress its GREAT! it uses a simple serial cable beteen the 2 machines
and you can execute commands to either machine, transfer files etc.

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> Simon Spagnol - mild mannered physicist, power crazed computer user 
> email: phsbs@manta.jcu.edu.au                                      
> mail:  Physics Department                                                  
>        James Cook University,
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From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Videotoaster works on A4000!!!!
Date: 26 Sep 92 05:57:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Sep25.225741.2502
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


 > I personally think thier 3000 will give up the ghost prematurely because
 > of the horrendous  load the Toaster puts on the power supply --
 > especially if an 040 and gobs of Ram and an oversized hard drive are
 > installed.

Could happen alright... A500 deja vu all over again!  :-/

Of course, a 200 watt Micro R&D A3000 compat replacable power supply just
might fix that little prob, should it occur.  ;-)



Cheers,



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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Monday, 28 Sep 1992 16:14:49 EDT
From: (((ZERO))) <IO00844@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,
Subject: CDTV INFO. WANTED. Answers needed...

I recently sold my A500 and ordered a CDTV.  Since the decision to buy a CDTV
was rather spontaneous, I really don't know what I got myself into.
What I'd like to know while I await it's arrival is this:

What can a CDTV do that my 500 couldn't?
AND
What can an A500 do that my CDTV can't?

Please note I ordered the [Keyboard/Drive/Mouse] package also with this.

A few direct questions I'd like to know are:

Can I run any amiga software in the drive w/CDTV? (word processors/games?)
Can I hook a printer up to CDTV?
Can I hook a modem up to CDTV?
Can I hook a hard drive up to CDTV?
Can I run European Demos in PAL mode with CDTV?

I heard that joysticks are incompatible with CDTV, but there is an accessory
I can buy to get them to work..what is it?

I heard you can play CD's (music) on CDTV, how easy is it to do this? (Insert
and play?)

Can I extend the memory of CDTV?

And anything else of interest... THANKS.
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From: Michael.Witbrock@cs.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: "Family Values"...& vulgar programs!
Date: 29 Sep 92 06:40:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.gem6fjG00j_HA0ZVx=
	<1992Sep28.175523.1@vaxb.llnl.gov>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.amiga.misc: 29-Sep-92 Re: Return of
> "Family Value.. yurick@vaxb.llnl.gov (1724)

> Ditto!!!  I recently downloaded a PD utility program, from a local BBS. 
> When
> I pulled down one of the menu's, I saw a few choice words that DID NOT
> belong
> there.  The programmer was obviously working with a grade-school
> mentality.  I
> thought about editing the program to change the vulgarities, but then
> about a
> nano-second later, I decided to simply delete the program all together. 
> I
> think the better choice was made.


If the programmer thought the words belonged there, then I'd say they
belonged there. A program is, to some extent, and artistic expression
reflecting its creator's personality. If you don't like that expression,
then the appropriate action (which the author of the quoted letter took)
is not view the work that contains it.  I might even go so far as to
think that editing the program to remove the vulgarisms was immoral.

On practical grounds, I think I'd rather see people vent  their
particular frustrations by putting naughty words in menus than by
writing viri or neo-nazi propaganda games.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Problem with 2.04
From: bjbernstein@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:15:38 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

  I got a problem..  I recently had a problem with Janus on my bridgeboard, so 
I re-installed it..  Now, whenever I boot up from my HD, my overscan prefs, my 
color prefs, and the location of my 'leave outs' is messed.. I fix it, snapshot,
and save everything over, but next time I boot, same thing...

  Any suggestions? Mail,please..


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From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Problems with the A4000
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:23:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Sep29.062310.2586
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

> From what I've read, there's plenty of space inside for both the IDE
> drive as well as a scsi drive (and a CDRom drive).

Yeah, IF you want two drives.  If not...


> The only objection I have to IDE is that there seem to be 400
> incompatible versions of it...

There's always that... and isn't that ONE of the reasons for SCSI in the
first place?  Of course, the PC crowd even managed to muck that up with
4000 different flavors of SCSI!  :-/



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