From: fafat@phakt.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: U.S. Citizen NRIs Please leave India alone (Re: BJP)
Date: 27 Jan 1993 10:40:26 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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Virendra Verma writes:
>	Yes. India is identified with Vedas and BJP-like mentality. Without
>	it, it has no identity as has been going on for the last 45 years.

	huh? Verma bossu, Salaam, salaam! You're a true master.
	

>	India has to regain its identity first and only then it will be
>	on the path of progress. Western thinking and technology is not
                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	good for Indian culture where both religion and science progress
>	on equal grounds.      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


	and why such an anti-western feeling? Just because it's "western"?
	And why is'nt western technology [sic] not good? It's working just
	fine, no? You talk about non-existent ancient technologies as if
	they were panacea.


>	Today if religion has a bad name or science
>	community turns against religion, it is because of western culture 
>	and religious mentality.


	I would rather not have any religious mentality which is capable
	of whipping up animalistic passions. Does'nt matter if it's eastern
	or western. You're just as bad as the Muslims when you're killing
	the innocent. So stop bragging about "our great culture". 


>	Let us prove it by restoring Indian values in modern India because
>	I can't bring the proof for the ancient achievments. We have tried
>	the western model for 45 years, let us try Indian model for just
>	10 years. See the difference. Don't be so intolerant if you are
>	a true knowledge seeker.


	And what *is* this "Indian model"? starting gurukuls across the
	country and teaching vedas?? no thank you, sir. I would much rather
	read Einstein's theory rooted in ground reality instead of some
	ramblings from the past which can't even tell me what causes an
	eclipse.


	hee hee :) Worma, you make my day. Pliss to write something everyday
	so I can sail thru it with a biggooo smile :)

>
>	I never justified violence. I always asked those in power to punish
>	these violators of crime. Mosque was razed peacefully. The violence
>	was created by Congress (I). They could not contain it or punish
>	those murderers because they were behind it. It is a very simple
>	logic and doesn't need a mighty brain.


	Even if it needed, you don't have one. And you display it by the 
	fact that you delink the BM razing [peaceful?] and the ensuing
	carnage. As I had said before, everything good, hey, BJP did it.
	anything wrong? Harami Congress engineered it. Such naive attitude
	tells me I've won the bet against balaji kannan. He said you were
	12. I bet on below 10.


>>	Verma, stop mouthing such inane bromides. Branding someone "pseudo"
>>	just because his views are different from yours is juvenile. By that
>>	token, you're a prime pseudoid.
>> 
>
>	We have given plenty of hypocritical behavior of these so called
>	'secularists'. What's wrong with this new label? Secularism is
>	not bad that is the only reason we have to isolate their 'actual'
>	behavior from those of true secularists.

	O nothing bad. Just that you're a pseudo-vedic, pseudo-patriot [sic]
	pseudo-Hindu, pseudo *.*. You see, beyond a point, such labelling
	becomes meaningless.


>>	give me a break, you pietistic twit! Do you want to say you can't
>>	get into a decent job in the private sector back home if you want
>>	to, now? Why don't you just accept that you like the DEC floors
>>	and the green bucks associated instead of spewing forth such
>>	"I'm-a-patriotic-guy-but-the-system-is-bad" kind of views to project
>>	a goody two-shoes image? Nothing wrong with liking the money.
>
>	Don't do wishful thinking without knowing the guy. I had three
>	decent jobs right after my Engg degree. I worked in India for four
>	years before deciding that the system didn't work for me. It was
>	not a happy decision. Today I am capable of supporting hungery people
>	in India. I am even capable of establishing a business which can
>	benefit India which she needs most as you might very well know. 
>	I don't think I could have ever done that with my job in India. Even
>	the GoI is finding it now that the system is not workable. How
>	could I have been wrong?

	
	Here's the standard disclaimer which everyone tries to put forth to
	"justify" coming here. I'll repeat: you're a pietistic twit!
	the system did'nt work for you, eh? pliss to tell me how. Then to tell
	me why you shd talk about returning to Indian values blah blah when
	you yourself ran away like a craven jackass. And then to realise that
	it's not your fault that you could'nt figure out how you could be 
	wrong. No one does.


>>	But you forget your biggest handicap : a muddled brain given to
>>	frequent magalomania...  and o yes, "I'm a holy guy" syndrome....
>> 
>>	FFT
>
>	Hey, it is working. Who cares what you think?


	still deluding yourself, I see. It's working, eh? On the DEC floors?

	FFT








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