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From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Subject: Re: Repeat Performances
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:15:16 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1992Nov17.213409.3545@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows) writes:
>
>I can't believe it!  Star Trek: The Next Generation actually casts
>the same actors in more than one role?  I can remember that Mark
>Lenard was the only Trek actor to portray a Vulcan, a Klingon, and 
>a Romulan, and that Diana Muldaur portrayed 2 or 3 different doctors
>in the old series in addition to her Dr. Pulaski role on ST:TNG, but
>to find out that ST:TNG does it too--that's great!  (Of course, I
>already knew about their cross-casting of Rene as young Picard, but...)_
>
This has happened several times in ST:TNG.. one I can think of off the top
of my head is the actress that plays Ensign Ro was David Ogden Stier's
daughter in Half a Life.  Anyone else remember any others?


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From: rbw@fico.uucp
Subject: Re: Rascals SPOILERS
Organization: The Fair, Isaac Companies, San Rafael, California
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 02:02:03 GMT

In article <1dpg8sINNo7o@agate.berkeley.edu> felix@ocf.berkeley.edu (Felix Ling) writes:
>In article <1dlm07INN867@transfer.stratus.com> det@phlan.sw.stratus.com (David Toland) writes:
>>**SPOILERS AHEAD ***

>
>>The Enterprise was taken by surprise.  It happens.  They were expecting
>>a natural disaster, not an attack.  Even when ships appeared, they were
>>Klingon Birds of Prey, ships of an allied power.  My wife, who had **NOT**
>
>Point taken.  However, you would think that surprise would only account for
>the first few shots (and I would think that the shields should have snapped
>up pretty quickly, minimizing the initial damage).  After that, I don't think
>the Birds of Prey could have continued bashing the Big E for long.


Remember:  the Big E was cruising with shields down.  Once the Birds of Prey
de-cloaked, they were firing away immediately and did not stop.  This is why
the Big E bit the Big One.  I have to admit, though, that Worf has gotta learn
to aim his phaser!!  :-)

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From: rmherrin@acs.ucalgary.ca (Robyn Meta Herrington)
Subject: Trekmas Carol
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 19:52:29 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta


Here's an offering from a co-worker of mine. . .

Oh the Romulen force is frightful
And to fire is so delightful
And Worf is all set to go. . .
Make is so, Make it so, Make it so.


...hmm.  Seems to me this may be in the wrong newsgroup.  I'll
apologise now ...



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From: gp2001@andy.bgsu.edu (Greg Pallenik)
Subject: Re: Inspector Data.....
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: Bowling Green State University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 06:05:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.011927.18917@ncsu.edu>, stdeprie@eos.ncsu.edu (SHAWN
TEMPLE DEPRIEST) wrote:
> 
> 
> Go go Gadget warp drive........:-)
> Go go Gadget arms.....etc, etc,etc.....play with it, have fun.

Wouldn't it have to be "Go go DATA warp drive, GO go DATA arms", etc?

-Greg
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From: laurahal@microsoft.com (Laura Halliday)
Subject: Re: Troi 24..30...56...
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:47:43 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Summary: Harumph!


*I* don't see what the problem is. Marina Sirtis is a woman,
and is shaped like one. Like a real woman, not the 12 year old
pseudo-male figures that the fashion industry seems obsessed with.

I think she has a cute butt...

...laura in a curmudgeonly mood
From: 00jlrushton@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Malcolm Q ? beards? butts? humor respond
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:11:40 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

hey any more respondes ....

PLEASe the Q idea was funny...

would worf get brown rice is the question...

and what about the beards and troi's BIG BUTT!

those are the people who are dogs by the power of Q!
woof, woof, woof -------- Arsenio Hall ????
Crusher as guest ! ha ha ha...

An ebony Q? why not Malcolm Q !!!

signed,
keep on the humor side!
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From: cboerm48@ursa.calvin.edu (Christopher Boerma)
Subject: Re: myempire (Matt J. Martin)
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 05:57:30 GMT

myempire@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Matt J. Martin) writes:


>>	I just felt a pressing need to let everyone know that all the students
>>at Purdue are not as sexist, demented, and sad as Matt J. Martin (myempire).
>>Actually, the vast majority of people I've met here are human beings with a
>>sense of equality.  Flame away at him--he deserves it.
>>
I concurr

>  Am I sexist?

>  Perhaps a bit.  But then, who isn't?  At least I have the integrity to 
>admit it.

Just because you admit it doesn't make it right. Get a fricken life dude. 
You're not holier than the rest of us because you admit to being sexist. See, 
if questioned I'd admit that I a bit sexist to. You're right to say we all are.
BUT, I have the integrity to keep it under my hat where it should be. Sexism is
wrong, and I'm not perfect. So I'm a bit Sexist, that doesn't mean I get to go
around making sexist comments.

>  Am I demented?
>  Damn straight I am!  
Well, no arguements there.

	CTB
From: rem@public.BTR.COM (Robert E. Maas  rem@btr.com)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Better cat actors (Was: A Fistful of Datas comment)
Date: 15 Nov 92 13:31:53 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. For info contact: info@BTR.COM

bbs-hrick@jwt.UUCP (Rick Harrison) said <<... the cat playing Spot is
not a very good actor.>> and cnk@rgm.com replied <<Jeeeeez, a *CAT*
can't even escape flames in this group!!!>>

Hmmm, the dogs&cats on TV-20 in SF (the ones that turn to the TV set to
see the station ID) seem to be better actors. Maybe some of them can be
drafted for TNG? :-)
Xref: sparky rec.arts.startrek.current:19151 soc.men:19837 soc.women:20186
From: xenon@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,soc.men,soc.women
Subject: Re: Beards vs. Make-up
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:01:23 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

In article <168A89C14.SURGDM@mizzou1.missouri.edu>, Diane writes:
> In article <1992Nov22.114245.2638@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu>
> xenon@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
>  
>>re: Recent episode of Star Trek where Dr. Beverly Crusher says that beards are
>>an "affectation" comparable to the wearing of makeup by women.
>>Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that SHAVING is the "affectation"?
>  
> (whining) Xenon, this is sooooooo unfair! I can't even explain
> Dworkin/McKinnon* and NOW you're hitting us (women) with what a fictional
> character on a sci-fi show has to say????

Not hitting women, just tweaking the writers a bit.... incidentally this is the
first post I've written in a very long time that has gotten more than one or
two followups.... makes you wonder, doesn't it?  ;)
 
> I definitely prefer women without beards and men without make-up!
>  
> Diane

Me too... ;)

- xenon


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From: Mel Walker <mwalker@novell.com>
Subject: Re: Cloaking devices (Spoilers) Rascals
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A72EB51B40011E08@mwalker.npd.provo.novell.com>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 17 Nov 92 14:41:31 GMT
Organization: Society for Anarchic Totalitarianism
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:41:26 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.190121.5950@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> Chris Meadows,
cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu writes:
>An exploratory ship (especially one as well armed as the Enterprise)
>does not NEED to be cloaked.  Their mission is one of peace, not war,
>so they have NO NEED to sneak around.  Sure, they COULD use the device,
>but they choose not to, just like they choose not to interfere with 
>developing cultures (unless Kirk REALLY wanted to...).

Of COURSE they need to be cloaked. How can they remain in orbit above a
planet with a mildly advanced civilization and not be detected? The Prime
Directive should REQUIRE cloaking devices. I always wondered about the
episode where Riker is made up to look like an alien and lost on a planet
that is doing warp drive experiments. The Enterprise is clearly in orbit.
How did the natives not detect it? It's big, bright white, in a low
enough orbit for transporters, and there for several days, at least. An
exploratory ship should have cloaking devices.

--Mel Walker
mwalker@novell.com
Disclaimer: Some Martians landed and stole my opinions. So if these
opinions sound like they're coming from Mars, that's why.
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From: bgbauer@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: Re: The quality of life.....SUCKS
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:33:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.104532.3215@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> mdvs_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Mike Davis) writes:
>	1) The execcoms(or whatever) were so unbelievably below the typical
>	special effects of this show as to elicit laughter from both myself
>	and my roommate.  No one can make me believe taht that creature was 
>	not on strings.  And I was horrified.

I have to agree on this one.  A neat coincidence happened Saturday as
at 11:00 am CBC ran ``The Changeling''.  Remember NOMAD?.  Anyway,
it was obvious that NOMAD was on a string and I thought that in the
25 years since that episode a better system could be found to levitate
a robot.  Surely TNG could have used chroma-key or some fancy computer
animation to pull this off.  As most posters have agreed, those little
beasties did look like something between ALF and a canister vacuum!
... and those little things waving around on the side of the exocomps...
anyone think that those looked like ``mail's in'' flags from a mailbox?
Well we have to take the good with the bad... for every "Devil in the Dark"
there has to be a "Spock's Brain".
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Distribution: world
From: Ira_J._Seskin@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:40:51 EST
Subject: Re: Clint and Data

>>Viewers in some parts of the Pacific NW had a lucky coincidence on the
weekend, The original spaghetti western "Fistful of Dollars" was shownjust a
few hours before the ST:TNG<<
 
Obviously the episode writer had a lot of fun with the script, and had to be
an Eastwood fan. I still think this was one of the most creative and
entertaining episodes this season. Worf was outstanding, and trying soooo hard
to be in character at the beginning. Then....we see that the Ancient West
culture has much in common with the Klingon culture. Again.....fun episode!
 
-Ira-
 
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From: slovick@Apple.COM (Linda Slovick)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Fistful of Datas
Date: 18 Nov 92 13:24:22 GMT
Organization: Slovick Engineering


In message <1992Nov14.211913.339@rivers>, Steven K. Manfred writes:

>And it was nice to see Denise Crosby back in a guest role....she seems to
>have lost quite a lot of weight though, but you can tell it's her as she's
>still jumping all over Data.....:)

This was in "Fistful of Datas"?  I watched it again and didn't
see her.  Also didn't see her name in the credits.  Which
character was she?  Was she the "floosy" who whistled at Worf?

I enjoyed this episode, too.  Nice to see Troi get a role more
substantial than the usual Counselor Cleavage character.  Seems
like women in Star Trek have tended to be locked into permanent
nurturing mode.

I also liked the humor in this episode.  "I'm afraid I'm not
much of an actor." and  "So, we are in law enforcement."
:-) :-) :-)

Linda Slovick
slovick@apple.com                         "Tea, Earl Grey, hot"
From: jerry@bertie (Jerry Shurman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: FFoD observation
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:28:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Nov16.152823.15552
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

Has someone already commented on the similarity
between the Worf/Alexander scenes in this one
and the old Warner Brothers cartoons with
Sylvester Cat and his sycophantic son?
("Come ON, Father!  The mouse went that way...")
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From: 92bbb@williams.edu (Bradford Behr)
Subject: Re: Communicators?
Organization: Williams College, Williamstown, MA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:12:18 GMT

>>The communicators may act as pagers that record the message and send it
>>to the specified person. When the reciever responds, the message is played
>>back and then the two are begining a two way conversation.
>
>But we know this doesn't happen:  the response from the addressed party
>is too quick.  How many times have we seen something like the following
>happen?
>
>Riker (looks at ceiling):  "Dr. Crusher assemble a medical away team
>   and meet me in transporter room 3!"
>Crusher:  "On my way."
>
>Crusher responds immediately, as though she was just sitting around in
>sick bay with nothing to do, waiting for someone to call her on her
>communicator.  There is no time for recording, paging, playback, or
>anything kind of delayed delivery of the message.

In a case like this, the "paging" message is long enough (~ 3 sec, by
my reckoning) that the computer could figure out who it was for (in
the first 0.5 sec) and relay the recorded audio _at a slightly
compressed i.e. speeded up rate_, such that instantaneous reply is
feasible. (The brain can understand speech up to 160% speeded up just
fine, especially if frequency compensation removes the "Alvin & The
Chipmunks" effect.) 

OK, sure, I'm reaching a bit here, especially since speech compression
would have a hard time dealing with a terse Picard "Number one!", and
the receiving end never sounds artificially speeded up (at least not
that I can recall). But it's an idea...

Brad


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From: ramid@nyx.cs.du.edu (Rudy Amid)
Subject: Re: ST: TNG on Joan Rivers
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 07:55:55 GMT

abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick) writes:

>Someone posted a message saying that the cast (except for Levar Burton)
>would be on the Joan Rivers Show today. I set my VCR to record it and...I
>had a power failure around noon today so it wiped out the timer and
>nothing got taped. I'm not asking for someone to give me a transcript or
>anything but could someone who actually saw it post a message (or email
>me) saying what "interesting" things were said.
>I'll leave it to you to decide what "interesting" is.

   Well, I was scanning the TV channels at 2:30am EST, and I stumbled on
the show.   Unfortunately, it was near the end already but I did manage
catch a few things:

- Brent Spiner said (jokingly?) that he'll be in the ST:TNG feature film.
  Then Patrick Stewart jested, "Don't spread that rumour!"  They all laughed.
  (It seems they're not sure if ST:TNG will last much longer but they
   looked interested in signing on for the movie deal).

- Joan asked, "What is Space acting?"
  Gates McFadden gave the cue, and they all started shaking and rocking
  back and forth on the couch.  :-)

- Dorn was known to give bad acting (so he said), and the other cast huddled
  together and then tell him not to over-act. 

  I would also appreciate the rest of synopsis(tm?). 

>Alan Bick

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From: x91anderso33@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Goof on "MY TWO CENTS ON TROI'S BODY"
Date: 20 Nov 92 11:30:08 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

I made a little boo-boo a little while ago, putting in "My twoo Cents" on
Troi's body on a friend's account by mistake (My friend happening to be a
girl). I was showing another friend how to post without realizing that I was
putting down my own opinions on Troi's anatomy on someone else's account. But
to make it official, those opinions stated were not those of Kristy Kozlowski,
whose account was used to promote sexist pig attitudes towards women (R!R!R!
Tim Allen grunt).




















"Level, please?" - the ever-friendly voice of the turbolift
"Transporter room!" - the tired voice of Scotty
"Thank you." - turbolift again
"Up your shaft!" - Scotty again
			--- Star Trek III:The Search for Spock
From: dlou@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Dennis Lou)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: ---< Quality of Life >--- Synapsis & *SPOILERS*
Date: 18 Nov 92 03:31:45 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Nov17.001333.38@uoft02.utoledo.edu> mneylon@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Michael Neylon) writes:

>application of the robots.  They are able to create the tools they need, and
>are very adaptable (ie Neural Network).  Geordi wonders how effective they
>
...
>First, TECHONOBABLE:  There was understandable stuff, and incomprehensable
>stuff.  The robots and stuff with neural networks makes sense (actually
>it explain networks quite well).  However, the mining with a partical

I believe that sort of learning would constitute a genetic algorithm, not
a neural net.  Neural nets tend to have rather rigid or somewhat fixed
architectures.

-- 
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dlou@ucsd.edu          || "Then I'd be crazy to think any other way!"
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From: C14383@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Marie Cannizzaro)
Subject: Exo-comps or Tater Tots
Organization: Motorola
Date: 23 Nov 1992 09:11:24 CST


 These cute little devices reminded me of space prunes, tater tots
or some twentieth century version of the Hamburglers sidekicks. MC
From: cstone@husc8.harvard.edu (christopher stone)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Poor Frenchies (was Picard's Accent
Date: 24 Nov 92 01:56:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Nov23.205634.17740
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Nov23.145339.2651@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> xenon@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
>Pity the poor french....
>
>In the original Star Trek, there were no frenchmen.  In TNG they tried to make
>up for that, and give a tip of the hat to France, by making the captain of the
>Enterprise a frenchman, Jean-Luc Picard. 
>
>But in order to explain Picard's english accent, they had to postulate that
>France must suffer the indignity of being conquered by the brits (!) and their
>language virtually eradicated!!!  Am I the only one who sees the irony in that?
>
>Incidentally, my surname is french, and I look french, and can even speak a
>little french, but my accent is pure southern drawl.  I would expect that in
>400 years, the connections between accent and ethnicity to be even more
>scrambled.
>
>- xenon

Since when do we know that France was conquered by the Brits?  This wasn't
in any episode I can remember.

Chris
From: 00mddwyer@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: ST DS9  crew gifs
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:08:46 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

Where can a gif of the ST DS9 crew be found???????????
They have apeared briefly on the news, so hasnt someone tried to do a screen
capture?
Is there a magazine with there pictures, I will personally color scan it, and
post it to an ftp site if so.

Any help would be appreciated!
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From: emarkp@soda.berkeley.edu (E. Mark Ping)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: "The Universe of MOTION" For Scripts
Date: 21 Nov 1992 00:05:36 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <STEVEV.92Nov18102709@miser.uoregon.edu> stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) writes: 
}Robert E. McElwaine blithers:
}
}>     The principles of Astronomy and Astrophysics described in
}>this book should be incorporated into Star Trek scripts:
}
}>               "THE UNIVERSE OF MOTION" contains FINAL SOLUTIONS to 
j}>          most ALL astrophysical mysteries. 
}
}[long diatribe on "Everything you know about physics is wrong,
}even most of the experimentally verified stuff" deleted]
}
}Hmm, better that ST:TNG have _consistent_ pseudo-science than
}_inconsistent_ pseudo-science?
}
}Frankly, I get pretty nervous about any book review where
}one-quarter of the words are ALL-CAPS for no discernible reason.
}

  This loony is rampant on sci.physics.  He repeatedly posts the same things
over and over again (especially with respect to the Larson stuff), and won't
get off the newsgroup.

  Best advice:  ignore him or put him in your kill file.

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From: scheetz@watson.bms.com (Christopher Scheetz)
Subject: List full of Data's
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Bristol Myers Squibb Pharmaceutical Research Institute
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 20:27:00 GMT


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