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From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Subject: Re:   Audio CDs on CD-ROM Drive
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:54:42 GMT

In article <dillon.0ocj@overload.Berkeley.CA.US> dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US  
(Matthew Dillon) writes:
> >In article <Bv3o9G.FGw.2@cs.cmu.edu> ddj+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug DeJulio) writes:
> >>In article <dillon.0o6s@overload.Berkeley.CA.US>  
dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon) writes:
> >>    Unfortunately, it is ILLEGAL to store or otherwise process (except to
> >>    simply play) the RAW BINARY data from an Audio CD.
> >
> >I don't believe this is true.  It's silly.
> >
> >You mean if I have a digital equalizer and use the digital out port of
> >a CD player I'm doing something illegal?
> >
> >If I do it in my own software rather than using a prebuilt componant
> >to do it, how is that different?
> >
> >If I've got both a CD player and a DAT player, and I copy a CD onto
> >DAT *FOR* *MY* *OWN* *USE*, that's illegal?  That's not reasonable.
> >If I were to copy a CD for someone else, sure, that's piracy and it's
> >illegal.
> 
>     Welcome to the world of audio-media giants.  The CD players are
>     frightened to death that the DAT players will take over the market,
>     which is why it has taken so long to get DAT into the US... all sorts
>     of delaying lawsuites and positioning going on.
> 
> 				-Matt
> 
Folks, IT AIN'T ILLEGAL TO MAKE A DAT OR OTHER DIGITIAL COPY OF A CD!
It IS illegal to sell/give away/make a public performance with/use as music on  
hold/etc., WITHOUT prior permi$$ion; but just making a copy, digitail or  
otherwise, for YOUR own personal use, of a CD YOU purchased legally, is NOT  
illegal!!!


> >--
> >Doug DeJulio
> >ddj+@cmu.edu
> 
> --
> 
>     Matthew Dillon		dillon@Overload.Berkeley.CA.US
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>     USA 			Sandel-Avery Engineering (702)831-8000


Jim
From: dougw@ks25.chi.il.us (Doug Waldron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: top 10 reasons to buy a HoUSE instead of a NeXT
Date: 25 Sep 92 15:22:43 GMT
Organization: R. R. Donnelley & Sons


I have been following the NeXT groups for almost a year.
I am also a NeXT Registered developer.
I wanted to buy NeXT machine with color, but prices have
not dropped in the past 9 months.

So, I'm going to buy a HoUSE instead.  Sad to admit, but
the choice has come down to a HoUSE or a NeXT machine.

Why?

10. The down payment on a HoUSE (around here) is less than the cost
    of a NeXT configured the way I need it... and I don't need a
    student discount.
 9. HoUSEs are somewhat upgradable
 8. HoUSEs go up in value (unless you're in New England)
 7. There are more games available for HoUSEs
 6. I can buy pieces for a HoUSE from many different vendors
 5. When buying a HoUSE, I don't have to wade through volumes
    of propaganda. (Just volumes of forms)
 4. I don't have to wait for the next version to get rid of bugs.
 3. Japan doesn't have %30 of the stock in my HoUSE
 2. 3 years from now, my HoUSE will not be obsolete

And the number one reason why I'm buying a HoUSE instead of NeXT:

 1. No one will describe my HoUSE as "insanely great."

]R
(Hey SP!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: silbar@mpx2.lampf.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Subject: Fax out from command line?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: LAMPF Data Analysis Center, Los Alamos, New Mexico
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 16:01:00 GMT

We just installed a FAX modem (with the NXFax driver, very nice) on
our secretary's Turbo, and almost immediately two of my more sophis-
ticated colleagues ask two good questions.  Can one set up the Fax
modem for faxing remotely from another Fax?  [Answer seems to be "yes".]

And one for which I don't know the answer: how can one send out a Fax
when logged in remotely through a vt100 emulator?  I.e., how does one
access the Fax utilities using just commands on, say, the Terminal app's
command line?

   Dick Silbar
From: ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:05:10 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

I haven't had any trouble running CDPlayer, but it does
some strange things.

First, the disc display with the white wedge indicator
behaves strangely.  It looks like it's supposed to
indicate which track is playing, but sometimes it lags
behind quite a bit.  On one of my discs, it skipped one
sliver altogether.

Now, it's out in the weeds playing an alleged 50th track on
a disc with 17 tracks.  The disc indicator looks like it's
on the 8th track.  When it finished the 50th track, it went
back to 16, which skipped in this thing but hasn't on the
other players I've tried.

So, I took the disc out and cleaned it, and it quit
skipping, but still goes to track 50 after the disc is
over. 

Anyone else seeing weird things like this happening? 
(These problems were with my fave disc, Welcome to the
Pleasuredome by FGtH.)

ab
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jr@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org (Jochen Richter)
Subject: CRASHME crashes NS 3.0 in less than a second!!!
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:22:20 GMT
Organization: The Home of the Pilhuhn
Keywords: crashme

The user program CRASHME that is available from some ftp-servers
crashes NS 3.0 in less than a second!!! That is the depressing 
result of my tests. It's a shame that NS hasn't been tested with
this in many magazines demonstrated user program. It produces
many different system exceptions that have to be handled properly
by the kernel...
After the crash you can't even reach NMI! You have to use 
<Command><Alternate>*.


Shame!!!

Jochen

P.S. NS 2.1 did the same.


Jochen Richter
Zahringerstrasse 57
D-7500 Karlsruhe 1
Germany

Phone +49-721-696922
Fax   +49-721-696988
e-mail: jr@resy2.kfk.de
From: enders@bolshoi.cc.misu.NoDak.edu (Todd Enders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Mathematica- can't get our passwords
Date: 1 Oct 92 05:12:18 GMT
Reply-To: enders@bolshoi.uucp

Gottfried Mayer-Kress writes

> well, next time read the instructions a little more careful before you start 
> your flame:
> NOBODY at WRI can give you the password WITHOUT the license number because 
> it is calculated from it....

     You mis-understand, sir.  I *had* the license number with me, just not the 
registration form that they wanted me to fax to them!!!  I had the mathid #
also, and was more than willing to give them whatever information they desired
over the phone.

     I found the file in /tmp and mailed it to register@wri.com on Saturday.
Still no word!!!  (*sigh*)

Todd     enders@bolshoi.uucp

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: Re:  Audio CDs on CD-ROM Drive
Reply-To: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Organization: Metrosoft
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 15:36:33 GMT

In article <2939@news.cerf.net> billabs@nic.cerf.net (Bill Romanowski)  
writes:
> >When you copy from CD to DAT you are NOT getting direct digital  
transfer.
> >You are introducing an analog step in between.
> Not on an Indigo....

Nor on a NeXT, using a Singular Solutions A/D64x...
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: wipeout@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: Microphone Pro mailing list?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 11:07:24 GMT

Is there a Microphone II/Pro (for NeXT or otherwise) mailing list?
If not, would anyone be interested in such a thing?  (For sharing info,
scripts, horror stories, etc...)

lemme know,
Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Subject: Re: User's Guide description (just arrived)
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 00:58:04 GMT

burns@cc.gatech.edu (James E. Burns) writes:
> 
> I just received my copy of the 3.0 User's Guide (after slightly less
> than three weeks).  It contains 365 pages (including an 8 page index
> and a 35 page reference section). 
         [skipping along]
> If you want a copy, the NeXT part number is N6038.  You can order it
> at 1-800-848-NeXT (that's 6398).

People at educational institutions might want to check with their university  
micro store first.  Stores *can* buy the user guide if they have the latest  
price list, and educational users might save a few bucks by going that  
route.

--
Garance Alistair Drosehn     =     gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer            (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute;           Troy NY    USA
From: usbill@ustores.ustores.missouri.edu (Bill Canning)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: IBM 3510 CD-ROM drive on a NeXTstation Color
Followup-To: poster
Date: 2 Oct 1992 16:31:57 -0500
Organization: University of Missouri, Columbia
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: ustores.ustores.missouri.edu
Summary: Does this work?

Can I attach an IBM 3510 CD-ROM drive to a non-Turbo NeXTstation Color
machine?  If so, how?

(I looked for an FAQ file, but didn't find one, hence my bothering all of
you.)

Thanks,
-- 
Bill Canning			usbill@ustores.ustores.missouri.edu (Internet)
(314) 882-2131			muccgw.usbill@ssgate.missouri.edu (cc:Mail)
[314] 882=4699 (Fax)		CSPECWC@MIZZOU1 (BITNET)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B)
Subject: Re: ftp nova.cc.purdue.edu
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:20:58 GMT

In article <Bv5M3t.LsG@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> kane@cs.purdue.edu (Christopher  
Kane) writes:
> Purdue is about to upgrade to 3.0 (hopefully) next week.  I don't know
> what this will mean for the archives for next week; I haven't seen
> anything announcing the downtime outside of Purdue.

Me neither, and I sent an announcement to
comp.sys.next.announce. :-(  Consider sonata down for a
while, though it will probably be up pretty stable after 5
this afternoon. 

ab
From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Splitting a large .ps file
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:00:51 GMT
Reply-To: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305)
Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA

In article <1992Sep29.112410.9630@investor.pgh.pa.us> rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) writes:
>I have a large .ps file I want to break up into "chapters" and put in
>DL.  I find I can load the file into preview and use the print & save
>commands to save pieces.  However, when I try to load anything but the
>first piece I get an error message that the page numbers are out of
>order.  The header seems to be duplicated for each piece so I can't see
>why I can't read them.

There is a program called psselect that does this.  It was in a package
I called PS-Utilities (I don't know what its real name was) which was
either posted to the net or picked up off sonata.  It works just fine.

-- 
Bob Peirce, Pittsburgh, PA         rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us         412-471-5320
venetia@investor.pgh.pa.us [NeXT Mail]  !uunet.uu.net!pitt!investor!rbp [UUCP]
From: sulistio@sutro.SFSU.EDU (Sulistio Muljadi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: How to Listen to audio CD's painlessly via CD
Date: 26 Sep 92 16:30:20 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University

In article <Bv6yB1.5r5@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes:
>gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes:
>
>>jgg@proforma.com (J. G. Gregory) writes:
>>>    Under "Security Options" turn on "Public Window Server".  This is a
>>>    security weakness, and I don't understand how severe.  However, I am
>To further emphasize why this is a hazard - when you have Public
>Window Server turned on, anyone who has an internet connection to your
>machine can perform tasks on your machine with the same security
>equivalence as the person who is currently logged into the console
>of the machine. (without a whole lot of trouble)

If u read the online documentation about security, NeXT has added an option
into the NetInfo to disable Public Window Server, and Public Sound.  So
everyone who has account on the NeXT won't have Public Window & Sound
Server turned on.  look at /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextAdmin/14_Security/
01_Implementing.rtfd
-- 
Mul			    |  Alt. address: sulistio@futon.sfsu.edu
sulistio@sutro.sfsu.edu     |		     sulistio@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu
#include "std/disclaimer.h" |		     mul@wet.UUCP  (UUCP e-mail)
	NeXT-Mail accepted at:  sarong!sulistio@cs.sfsu.edu (UUCP e-mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Subject: Re: 3.0 Librarian
Reply-To: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 23:32:26 GMT

Mike Matthews writes
> I wish they'd make it more stable.

That's odd.  Perhaps I'm not doing as much with it as you are, but it hasn't  
crashed on me once.  Librarian, in contrast, crashes quite frequently.  Don't  
index more than one thing simultaneously.  This causes a DL crash or DL to just  
sit there and not actually index anything.  Also, for some reason I can't get  
my local man pages to index like the NeXT-supplied ones do; with the  
descriptions and coming up as "blah" or "blah(1)" instead of "man1/blah.1".  I  
can see that the nice descriptions come from the 'whatis' file, but is there a  
relatively painless way to make that 'whatis' file?  I'm not in any mood to  
summarize each man page I've got manually.

Back to the thread of 3.0's DL; in an attempt to duplicate NeXT's method for  
output display of manpages in DL, I simply linked the additional files for  
formatting the manpage output and the directory icon (.roffArgs,  
displayCommand and .dir.tiff respectively).  I linked from  
/NextLibrary/Documentation/ManPages to /usr/local/man.

> Terminal Services is a nice workaround for that.

I'll try that Terminal Service line that you recommended.  Thanks for the tip!

> How about modules?

I think that's an excellent idea.  Upgrade the module, and both NG and Mail are  
upgraded (plus whatever else uses that module).  Sounds like a great way to do  
it!
-- 
-- Jeff (jeffo@uiuc.edu)
-- NeXTmail ok
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: Dropping bundled applications (was: Re: 3.0 and WriteNow)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:57:52 GMT

alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes:

>In article <1992Oct2.091430.11860@ITcorp.com> geoff@ITcorp.com (Geoff Kuenning) writes:
>> How come the release keeps getting bigger, yet the functionality
>> continues to shrink?

I am really amazed to see someone say such a statement.
Load up 0.8 on your OD and use it for a while.  You will notice
things in even 2.0 that give you incredibly more functionality.
Just to name a couple: services, the slider on the dock, etc.

I'm not even going to go into how NS 3.0 gives you so much more
functionality (Much better fax support, Netware and AppleShare
clients, DBKit, ProjectBuilder, RenderMan (!!!), PhoneKit) and
doesn't add that much to your disk space needs.
-- 
David Lemson                                                (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu                UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson 
NeXTMail accepted                                  BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: 72011.10@compuserve.com (Mitch Alland)
MMDF-Warning:  Parse error in original version of preceding line at gate.demon.co.uk
Subject: InterFax 24/96 NX sale!
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:32:40 +0000

Having sold my Cube, I still have my mint InterFax 24/96 NX faxmodem.  Take it
off my hands for $195 or best offer.  I'll pay for shipping by second day UPS
c.o.d.  If you're interested please let me have your address.

--Mitch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: kaiping@kowloon.wri.com (Joe Kaiping)
Subject: Re: Stuffit for NeXT?
Keywords: UNIX utility
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:40:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.162715.22894@wri.com> markm@wri.com writes:
> 
> 
> I have Opener3.0 and it does a great job opening Stuffit files, but it  
doesn't  
> have the option to create them.  If anyone knows of a source code to CREATE  
> stuffit files on my NeXT please let me know!
> 
> Thanks,
> --Mark Moline
> markm@wri.com

Hi Mark,
I found a UNIX utility somewhere that lets you create .sit files.
The only problem I've had with it is that Stuffit only notices mac
files of type "SIT!".  After you transfer the UNIX created .sit file
to a mac, it has type "TEXT" or something similar.  You have to use 
DiskTop or ResEdit to set the file type to
"SIT!"  After that Stuffit reads it.  Another possibility is
the mac app, MacCompress.  It reads UNIX "compress"ed files.

If anyone knows of a way to make an archived file on the NeXT,  transfer
it to a mac disk via FloppyWorks or some other such software, and have
Stuffit recognize it on a mac, please let me know!!!
--
=========================================================================
Joe Kaiping                     Phone: (217)-398-0700 ext# 172
Programmer/Typesetter           FAX: (217)-398-0747
Wolfram Research, Inc.          
kaiping@wri.com       NeXTmail accepted               

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: g3steen@student.business.uwo.ca (Garnet Steen)
Subject: tar.Z???
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:06:32 GMT

    What does this extension mean when it is on files at FTP sites?  I 
assume that it is some kind of compression.  If so, how do I uncompress 
these files, and is there a friendly program that will do it for me (you 
know, with prompts and pictures for us UNIX-illiterates)?
     Secondly, I called one of these sites (Sonata) and I wondered if 
there is a file which describes all the other files there.  I saw a file 
called Index, and wondered if that was it.  
     Finally, which are the best sites to get NeXT software from.  Is 
there a list?

g3steen@student.business.uwo.ca (Garnet Steen)
Western Business School  --  London, Ontario
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: tholland@pars.skidmore.edu (Anthony Holland)
Subject: superglue and NeXT plastic case.....will it work ?
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:43:57 GMT

I'm thinking of using superglue (TM) to glue some kind of security device  
to my NeXT station turbo.  Has anyone any experience with this ?  any  
recommendations on security techniques would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Anthony Holland
Skidmore College
NeXT System Support/NeXT Service Support
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: joer@inca.law.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld)
Subject: Pathetic news from NeXT--what's new??
Organization: Cleveland State University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:49:28 GMT

Hello fellow NeXTers:

Today I received the crowning piece of bad news from those friends at NeXT!  
Yes, CD-ROMs that were ordered 8/1/92 will be shipped either 11/2/92 or 12/
14/92.  That is really nice!  Only 3-5 months for a product that NeXT was 
forcing their customers to purchase, if they wanted to upgrade to 3.0.

Well, I am quite angry at what is apparently shining proof of why NeXT 
cannot become more popular--they are their own and their customers' worst 
enemy!  they take away the floptical drive as a means of upgrading and 
then they can't stock enough units.  Then, since we have to buy through 
another school, we cannot even get the information NeXT needs to trace the 
order (notice I did not say expedite the order--I am no longer that naive!), 
so we have to wait, and wait, and wait, and wait ... understand?

So much for using the Novell client!  Just have to keep that PC around 
longer than anyone had nightmares about when we first discussed NeXT 
computers, and incidentally, it is not fun to be made to look bad by the 
very company whom you are so vociferously supporting to those who doubt!

We also have some NeXTturbos on order.  I bet that takes about 10-12 weeks.  
I cannot figure out how NeXT keeps any customers when they treat us like 
dirt, or worse.

Wanna take bets nothing can be done to expedite this?

Please understand I seek no flames, even though they may combust 
spontaneously.

Greatly disappointed,
Joe

joer@inca.law.csuohio.edu
cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (NeXTmail ok here)

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Joe Rosenfeld
joer@inca.law.csuohio.edu
From: matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: more icons in dock? (actually Engage)
Date: 26 Sep 92 21:47:07 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

In article <1992Sep26.141506.10252@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> asm@eecg.toronto.edu (Anees Munshi) writes:
>Worse, the version I bought *writes* to the installation
>floppy, thus effectively disabling my ability to sell the
>program if I should choose to do so. Bizzare and inconvenient.

Even worse, the floppy comes write protected!

Sorry, had to do it.

It's still a great app though.
------
Mike Matthews, matthews@oberon.umd.edu (NeXTmail accepted)
------
If there is a possibility of several things going wrong, the one that
will cause the most damage will be the one to go wrong.



Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mdw@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (mark.d.wuest)
Subject: Re: SPARC (NeXT : -) 10
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 12:30:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.161558.25412@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> dwatola@praha.jpl.nasa.gov (David A. Watola) writes:

>only $18K?  are you sure you didn't get the crippled sparc 10's, i.e.
>the model 31?  designed to run at 40 mhz but only runs at 33?

>if your office mate actually has the (faster) model 41 i am interested in 
>knowing.  so that i can yell at sun because we don't have ours yet.

Actually, it is the bottom of the line Spark 10.  Worse yet, she
somehow ended up with a monochrome (they call it grey scale ;-) )
monitor.  Single processor.  Watching her try to figure out OpenWindows
(or whatever they call their Openlook stuff) validates NeXTSTEP
even more.

Mark
-- 
Mark Wuest                            *MY* opinions, not AT&T's!!
mark.wuest@att.com
mdw@cheshire.att.com (NeXT Mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley)
Subject: Re: NT / NeXT trivia
Reply-To: john@wpa.com (John Bartley)
Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 22:17:59 GMT

In article <SOWA.92Sep24112714@amdew.llnl.gov> sowa@amdew.llnl.gov  
(Erik C. Sowa) writes:
> jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras) writes:
> : In article <2069@ltb.ltb.bso.nl> wierda@ltb.ltb.bso.nl (Gerben  
Wierda) writes:
> : > NeXT plans to have Windows compatibility in NS486. 
> : Do you know this for a fact??  NeXT itself, not Softpc? It would be  
a major  
> : win!
> 
> >>>>> "Charles" == Charles Robinson <datec@gagme> writes:
> 
> Charles> Bob Luton(sp?), NextStep 486 guru spoke at the Chicago Loop
> Charles> Users group this evening. He could not have been much more
> Charles> specific about this --- I agree, its a major win.
> 
> Lawton (sp?) I think. When he spoke at BaNG, he was very careful to  
say
> that no "business" decision had been made yet as to how it would be
> provided. I read that as leaving a way out for it to be provided at
> extra cost by either NeXT or a third party. Your mileage may vary.


NeXTSTEP 486 was on display (once again) at the Seybold show in San  
Francisco this week. I had been reading the discussion on the net about  
Windows capability in NS486. So, just to see what the NeXT rep giving  
the demo would say, I asked if NS486 could run Windows apps. The reply?  
"No." "Will it be able to," I asked. "No." 

I don't think that he gave the correct answer, and I wonder why he was  
being so coy. This seems like such an obvious thing - it seems pretty  
ludicrous to suggest running a PC emulator on a real PC in order to run  
Windows.

John Bartley
john@wpa.com
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