HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: Mis-applied physics in advertising
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:16:10 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.140130.9484@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> kaszeta@crs.cl.msu.edu (Richard Kaszeta) writes:
>dw@unislc.uucp (Dan Wright) writes:
>>Now just a minute.  Hold yer horses.  Utah and Arizona are both Mountain
>>time, so 9:00am Utah equals 9:00am Arizona.  I agree 9:00am is unreasonably
>>early, but the hotel cannot help it if your bodies just flew in from
>>Central time.
>
>Sorry I don't know where you're writing from, but WRONG. Utah follows
>Mountain time normally, I.E. MST during part of the year, MDT during
>another part. In Arizona (lived there most of life), we DON'T have 
>Daylight Savings (Yeah- its stupid anyways- who wants to save Daylight?).
>Therefore, during the summer-half of the year, we are still MST, and have
>the same local time as California and the Pacific time zone.
>
>Thus, during tourist season (Summer) if it is 9 AM in Utah, it will be
>8 AM in AZ.
>
>Thank you.

That's exactly what happened to me in 1983.  I was coming from California
and Nevada, and ventured into Arizona.  We wanted to go to Mt Zion
National Park and the surrounding area, eventually returning to Arizona.
Our brief encounter with the sleazy hotel caused us to check out before
8:00 AM "body" time.  So, 9:00 AM is bad enough, but 8:00 AM is absurd for
a hotel check-out time.

Somehow the poster thought I meant coming from CST locales, not from further
West as was the case.

cjl

Xref: sparky alt.folklore.urban:19690 comp.dcom.modems:11094
From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Modem tax back
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:40:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: qiclab.1992Jul24.134009.17350
Reply-To: 70465.203@compuserve.com
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.

tjc50@ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll) writes:

>I think he means that it would be better if the storytellers (in this
>case, CompuServe) would put relevent dates of events in their stories
>(e.g., "A commissioner with the U.S. Federal Communications Commission
>(FCC) stated on April 1", rather than just "recently".  A date on the
>story itself ("16-Jul-92") does no good in determining any accuracy.

>FWIW, if such a regulation were being considered, it is not done via a
>recent statement from "a commissioner".  Proposed regulations are
>published in the Federal Register, with a request for input from
>interested parties, and then again when the decision has been made.

>An Intense Five-Minute Research Session on a Major Legal Database
>performed earlier today revealed no such proposed regulation any
>recent edition of the FR.

And someone in comp.dcom.telecom went to the "trouble" of doing as the CIS
story asked, and looking in the proper Forum on CIS, and found that an
FCC commisioner (I forget the name, check the telecom posting) had stated
in a speech published in the June issue of Communication World(?)
that there *should* be such a charge...

CIS is making a "pre-emptive strike" on the FCC. :-)

-- 
Leonard Erickson		      leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com
CIS: [70465,203]			 70465.203@compuserve.com
FIDO:   1:105/56	 Leonard.Erickson@f56.n105.z1.fidonet.org
(The CIS address is checked daily. The others infrequently)
From: ceb@dbrus.Unify.Com (Caroline E. Bryan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Cat colouration
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:31:52 GMT
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization

In article <1992Jul22.192437.14722@geovision.gvc.com> pt@geovision.gvc.com writes:
>swk004@muvms3.bitnet (CONNIE LEINEN, SWK004@MARSHALL, HUNTINGTON, WV) writes:
>
>
>>born in the same litter.  Besides which I thought tortoiseshell was a
>>cat that was predominantly dark whereas calico (or calicoat) referred 
>>to a cat with a significant amount of white.
>
>My dad and my wife both claim that my cat is 'tortoiseshell', but then they
>were both born in England.  Fellow North Americans claim that it is
>'calico'.  It's actually about 1/4 black, 1/4 white, 1/4 orange, and 1/4
>greyish/stripey.  The last color is _not_ mixed black and white hairs, but
>hairs that are various shades of grey along the length.  People tell me that
>that color is called 'tabby', although it may be different in the UK.

US definitions: Tortoiseshell has no white, but is just black and orange.
Calico is black, white, and orange splotches.  Tabby is various shades of
a single color (i.e., light to dark orange, or white to black, but not both)
in splotches and (optionally) stripes.  Tiger is VSOASC in stripes only.
Magpie is black with white splotches.

Your mileage may vary.  In my family we call magpie cats "Mook-a-mook", no
idea why.


Carrie		ceb@rechenau.unify.com	x6244   ------------------------------+
|   "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then there will be   |
|   peace."					-- Anon.		      |
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From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: How many Grooves on an LP?
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:21:42 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.051033.3639@nezsdc.icl.co.nz> derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
>
>Ok, just what _was_ she doing with the unconnected microphone then?  
>
>Derek "Now if you'd said Yoko Ono and an unconnected microphone..." Tearne

I think she was attempting to imitate Milli Vanilli.

cjl
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From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: Anyone heard this one? New UL?
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 00:45:30 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.232512.18488@geovision.gvc.com> pt@geovision.gvc.com writes:
>billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>>fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller) writes:
>>: What about the bit about the dip-shit usenet user who quotes 100 lines of
>>: included text only to stick a three line reply after it?
>>Even more common is the user who posts an unnecessary gratuitous insult.
>>These people are even worse than the aforementioned dip-shit users who
>>quote unnecessary material.
>
>Say, you wouldn't be a friend of C Lasner would you?

No, but I am (my own friend).

>
>The best signal to noise ratio helper I've ever heard:
>"If there is no original text in the first page, don't read the posting!"

Interesting use of the word "best" since it can lead to the user creating
false followups because he failed to keep up with the thread.  Shortsighted?
Yes, "best" not really.

>
>My corollory:
>"If the user take offense when somebody complains about them not editing the
>quoted text - plonk them! ESPECIALLY if they're posting from a .edu site."

That presupposes you have a right to make a *complaint* which you don't.
Self-appointed net.cops can't issue complaints.  Suggestions are another
thing, but not your tactics which are little more than harassment.  Further,
it is predictable that your actions are the direct cause of this much larger
waste of bandwidth on the net, because net.cops are ultimately hypocrits.
What they want is kowtowing and the right to post well-formed but totally
wasteful trash of their own without *anyone else* complaining about it.  I
find your incessant whining about bandwidth to be the root cause of 10 times
the bandwidth waste than you bothered to whine about in the first place.  As
you continue to whine, I and others will respond to it, and continue to
turn the blame on the bandwidth waste right back where it belongs, on *you*.
When you stop, we will stop responding to your waste.

Regarding the type of site a post comes from, there is *nothing* you can
derive about the nature of the poster.  If you attempt to contact any
academic authorities, they may contact *your* company's management because
you are wasting *their* time over infantile nonsense.  Many posters are
merely affiliated with academic sites, not students, or even faculty.
However, most posters from a .com are likely doing something that their
management may take a dim view of, especially if their DP department is
contacted over a matter that implies usage of the company's resources for
purposes other than company.productivity such as self-appointed net.copping.
Unless you are self-employed (I am) I suggest you retract that foolhardy
statement now while you still have a job.

cjl

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From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: Agnostics and Athiests
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 02:09:25 GMT

In article <0095E375.F2DF7FA0@cemmva.cem.msu.edu> mayers@cemmva.cem.msu.edu writes:
>OK. Everyone shuttup now.  Judiasm and Christianity both require belief in a 
>supreme being named GOD.  Christianity requires belief in Christ and the 

There's a trucking company named GOD.  It stands for Guaranteed Overnight
Delivery.

cjl
From: manley@optilink.UUCP (Dave Manley)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Organ muggers
Date: 24 Jul 92 23:37:40 GMT
Organization: DSC/Optilink Access Products

In article <1992Jul22.194147.1@indyvax.iupui.edu> harvey@indyvax.iupui.edu writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.201035.29965@PA.dec.com>, mikkelson@breakr.enet.dec.com (snopes) writes:

>> In article <1992Jul21.211605.20223@ctp.com>,
>>   dvand@ctp.com (Derek Vandivere) writes...

>>>Just to corroborate, I recall a cover story in _The Economist_ while flying
>>>the USAir shuttle a few months ago (yes, some Merkins read _The Economist_)
>>>which described the same problem.  Evidently, it's mostly poor 3rd worlder
>>>types who get cut.

>>  I read about third worlders selling the odd kidney, but not about any who have
>>  them involuntarily ripped out.  There's a world of difference.

>>  - snopes

>From the June 10-17 Indianapolis NUVO Newsweekly "News of the Weird":

>        Columbian garbage collector Oscar Hernandez claimed in March
>        that he was kidnapped by security guards during Carnival in
>        Barranquilla and taken to a lab at the Free University of
>        Barranquilla, where a syndicate planned to kill him for his
>        body parts.  A police investigation then turned up 11 bodies
>        and parts of 22 others, and a report that body bounty hunters
>        received $200 per person.  Police identified most victims as
>        garbage collectors.

Yeah, but did they say the 'body parts' were to be used in transplantation?

I bet not.

There's a true story along these same lines that indicated the bodies
were to be sold to medical schools as cadavers for disection.  That's
hardly the same thing as organ mugging which carries the implication
that the mugged part is going to be transplanted.

So far the number of documented organ muggings for transplant is the
same as the number of snuff films.  

--
Dave "You gotta see this film where the kill this guy by cutting out his organs
      while he's being raped by a jackelope" Manley
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From: stirling@ozrout.uucp (Stirling Westrup)
Subject: Re: Moxie, submarines (was: Re: Prince Albert in a can?!?)
Organization: Andre P. Ozrout
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 03:50:06 GMT

jimj@cleanplate.EBay.Sun.COM (James D. Jones) writes:
>
>My sister and her husband visit Australia fairly often, and they've 
>mentioned that, more often than not, Ozburgers come with beetroot on top.
>Glad to get some confirmation.

Heck, in Ozzyland *everything* comes with beetroot on the side, on top, or
cunningly ground up and stuffed inside the item that you ordered.  A fact
which horrified me when I first visited at age 12.  I hate beetroot.

-- 
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From: wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Shergold sighting on houston.general!
Date: 21 Jul 92 08:50:23 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAXcluster

In article <DVGHA25@taronga.com>, arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva) writes:
> Actually, it was cross-posted to about a zillion groups, so I'm sure
> 25 people have posted this on aftu by now (sometimes it's a drag being 
> a remote dial-up site <sigh>).
> 
> This one had something I hadn't seen before -- a different address.
> The poaster claimed it was Craig's address.  Is it?  I know there
> are some of you out there that knows where he lives, so here tis:
> 
> Master Craig Shergold
> 36 Shelby Rd. 
> Carshaltan
> London SM1 1LD
> United Kingdom
> 
Well, I think that Craig lives somewhere in the North-West of the country, not
in London. (But there is nothing here besides London, right? :-)

Shelby Road looks too much like Selby Road to me to be accurate.

Carshalton, I am pretty sure, is not in London, but I'm damned if I know where
it /actually/ is. And it's more likely to be spelt Carsholton.

The Postal Code SM1 1LD is certainly NOT a London code. I've never seen it
before and the only city I can think of to link it to is Southampton (on the
South coast). The first 1 indicates that the address is near the city centre,
and I'm sure that I remember news reports that he lives in a suburb of a small
town, which would not have its own post code.

Altogether, thoroughly unconvincing, though I don't know why you would believe
*me*

-- 

Stephen Wilcox             |   Remember what happened to the dinosaurs!
wilcox@maths.oxford.ac.uk  |    I did---and look what happened to me.
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Subject: Re: How many ways to make a Whopper<r>?
From: CDRESSER@eagle.wesleyan.edu (CLAYTON J. DRESSER)
Date: 29 Jul 92 23:20:26 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Wesleyan University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20In-Reply-To: hallam@zeus02.desy.de's message of Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:38:35 GMTLines: 52

In <1992Jul22.223835.6598@dscomsf.desy.de> hallam@zeus02.desy.de writes:

> In article <6929.2A69A7F1@psycho.fidonet.org>,
> jra@f160.n3603.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jay Ashworth) 
> |>the number of different ways to make a Whopper.  The number has gone
> |>up, but here's a try:
> |>
> |>Condiments:
> |>
> |>   Mayonnaise
> |>   Tomato
> |>   Lettuce
> |>   Ketchup
> |>   Pickle
> |>   Onion
> |>   Mustard
> |>   Ranch Sauce (from the BK Broiler)
> |>   Barbecue Sauce (from the Bullseye burger)
> |>   Tartar Sauce (from the (ex-)Whaler)
> |>
> |>each missing, light, regular, or heavy.
> 
> No you haven't got it there are 1023 different ways to have the toppings
> put on, not 1023 different toppings, viz:-

Wow, 10 condiments.  Thus, here's my theory.  The folks at BK figured that
you could either have a condiment ON or OFF so the number of combinations
became 2 (ON or OFF for each condiment) raised to the 10th power (number of
condiments) for a grand total of 1024.  Now, this bright ad execs figured that
"1024 combinations" wasn't as impressive as "over 1023" combinations so they
changed it.  But, since there are 4 ways, not 2, of applying each condiment,
the actual number should be 4 to the 10th (which I believe is 1,048,576).  Just
goes to show, the average BK worker is smarter than the average BK exec.

Clay

 
> With a knife/ finger/ shaker/ spoon
> With/without a happy Flame grilled taste smile
> With/without a silly hat saying `employee of the minute'
> With a `have a nice day'/ `thats enough for a fat balding git like
> yourself'/ `I didn't have to grovel to snivelling pricks like you when
> working at Dahmers'/ `Enjoy'
> Using a hypodermic needle.
> 
> etc.
> 
> I did have a few more suggestions but they were too gross.
> 
> 
> 
> Phill
From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Name that UL!
Date: 25 Jul 92 06:31:12 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

The National Enquirer (the Color Version of the WWN) had an article recently
that reminded me very much of a classic UL (of the Jan Harold Brunvand
variety).  See if YOU can see it too:

The Nat Enq reports that a Pebble Beach, Calif woman was driving along in
her station wagon when suddenly she saw a man in a dark automobile gesturing
frantically and flashing his lights at her.

He signaled for her to pull over!

Worried that he might be a maniac (this is California remember) she
"floored the accelerator and roared off at top speed".  Of course, the
other driver pursued her.

She pulled into a housing development where a security guard was on duty
"hoping the nut would quit following her".

"Sighing in relief, she drove up to the guard... who went pale and exclaimed"

(Ready for this?  A guy in the back seat?  A bloody hook on the door?)

(WRONG!!!!)


"who went pale and exclaimed:

        `Lady, you got a cat on the top of your roof!'

The woman's cat was on top of her car when she left that day.  It had clung
on to the luggage rack during the entire car chase.

Terry "What a Catastrophy" Wood
-- 
        INTERNET: tjw+@pitt.edu         BITNET: TJW@PITTVMS
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"There can be only one!"                                  - The Highlander
"There should have been only one. I want my money back!"  - Terry
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Subject: Re: Red Heads
From: derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 05:03:20 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

In article <712191792.13425@zooid.guild.org> brian@zooid.guild.org (Brian Misiaszek) writes:
>
>  I was wondering if anybody knows of trivia, facts and fancies surrounding
>persons with red hair.
> 
>  I know that in medieval Holland to see someone with red hair was a sign of
>bad luck.  Levi in his "Satanic Bible" says that red-heads make the best
>witches.  Common perception has it that people with red-hair are
>tempermental and passionate.  But what other stories and mythology surrounds
>people with red hair?

Isn't there something to do with blood type 'A', early Celtic populations
and the Basques?

Have you ever noticed that the Hero/Heroine in fairy stories/soap operas
are always blond.  This was originally because the ones writing the stories
where the conquering vikings and therefore the bad guys were always cast as
the Ancient Celts.  Celts tend to have dark or red hair.  Red hair is 
relatively uncommon so,  seeing as the Celts are often cast as witches then
red headed celts are even more likely to be looked on as such.

       My beard is red, 
       My blood groups 'A', 
       Perhaps this means 
       I'm one of the Fay.

Derek "I was foretold I wouldn't have to write poetry in this newsgroup." Tearne


-- 
Derek Tearne  derek@icl.co.nz or derek@fivegl.co.nz --Fujitsu SDC,Auckland,NZ

My 'self aware' .signature file failed his Turing test.  
It turns out he was just a chess playing midget in a decorative box.
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From: xeno@iastate.edu (Gary L Snethen)
Subject: Re: Microwaved cat explodes
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:54:13 GMT

In <1992Jul30.100147.13090@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz> ecmtwhk@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Thomas Koenig) writes:

>A man put a cat into microwave to dry; when taken out, the cat was
>curiously stiff, and when he set it down, it exploded.

>Rationale: With a microwave, it is possible to superheat water to a much
>greater degree than with normal heating, because the heating is done
>in the body of the water, with no hot spots at the walls of the vessel.


I find it strange that my cup of tea didn't explode.  ;)

Why is superheating needed to make the cat explode?  It seems to me that
the conversion of water to steam would build pressure in the cat (slowly)
and the explosion was caused by the sudden release of steam as the container
(ie., cat) ruptured.

My microwave isn't nearly powerful enough to raise the core temperature of
a body of water 30 degrees centigrade above boiling before the convection
currents warm the surface to boiling.  But I suppose that if the water
were contained in a vessel that could draw heat away from the exterior
of the water fast enough to keep it below boiling while the interior
temperature rose, and the water were very pure (which somehow I don't
imagine the juices within a cat to be), then perhaps this superheating
effect could take place, and remain stable just long enough to give the
cat to an unsuspecting friend.  =8( )

--Xeno
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From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Re: Orange Julius (Re: Moxie, submarines)
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: 30 Jul 92 09:43:25 GMT

In <1992Jul29.175240.16122@news.columbia.edu> lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:

    A cooking UL:

    Supposedly some "expert" chefs use the artifical one because it's "better" 
    than the genuine article.

Feh.
-- 
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From: nasadk@vccsouth17.its.rpi.edu (Kristopher Martin Nasadowski)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Mis-applied physics in advertising
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:21:37 GMT
Reply-To: nasadk@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.

In article <Brq8GK.5zA@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG>, phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul21.010610.12164@news.columbia.edu> lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
|> >
|> >What was Buster Brown's dog's name?
|> >
|> 
|> Tige.
|> 
Gee, and I heard it was "Tyke"

Nazman
<nasadk@rpi.edu>
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From: xtifr@netcom.com (Chris Waters)
Subject: Re: Agnostics and Athiests
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 05:58:57 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In <1992Jul27.043455.8189@athena.cs.uga.edu> mcovingt@athena.cs.uga.edu (Michael A. Covington) writes:

>>-> [various irrelevant attributions elided]
>>->I would call myself an athiest.  I have no belief in god and have
>>-
>>-Agnosticism is the Schrodinger's Cat of theism.  Believers/Atheists...
>>
>>    I was sitting here 'a wonderin' what all this agnostic .vs. athiest

>The misspellers are winning 2 to 1.

Er, you misspelled "whining".  :-)  :-)  :-)
-- 
Chris Waters    | the insane don't | NOBODY for President!
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