HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Subject: Re: What FAX modems do work with NS3.0?
Reply-To: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan Math Dept
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:39:13 GMT

In article <BvBJGK.4LD@spock.dis.cccd.edu>  
maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi) writes:
> In article <jchin.92Sep28104353@johnette.prodigy.bc.ca>  
jchin@prodigy.bc.ca writes:
> >Does Dove Fax work under 3.0?
> >
> >Joe
> 
> I called NeXT last Friday and they say yes although I've yet  
to do
> it myself.
> 
> maurices

My Dove fax has worked fine with 3.0 PR1, PR2, and final  
release.

--
Hal.Varian@umich.edu    Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364     Dept of Economics
fax:   313-764-2364     Univ of Michigan
                        Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dbbrown@eastrg2.cray.com (Dan Brown)
Subject: Re: Digital Librarian and nroff files.
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: 29 Sep 92 00:38:48 CDT

Sorry, forgot to add one more thing. The 3.0 upgrade does not contain this
directory. So if you do a build from scratch with the CD rom you should
experience the same problem.

Dan Brown(dbbrown@eastrg2.cray.com)
From: haller@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Kirk Haller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXt: fire your head of product distribution
Summary: We have been waiting four weeks for our computer
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:39:26 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics


% Sorry about posting this to comp.sys.next, but our news group file is not up
% to date. Follow-ups to comp.sys.next.advocacy 

Well, after careful consideration of our computer needs and what was out there,
we decided to purchase a NeXt station. It has been four weeks since we placed
our order thru the campus computer outlet. The monitor and starting-point kit
arrived without the CPU. Apparently there are a number of orders from NeXt 
sitting in the outlet, each one is missing some part: in our case a CPU, in 
others, starting point kits, etc.

It looks like we will be waiting for a couple of more weeks to get 
our computer. This is ridiculous! How hard can it be to fill an order, they 
can do it at McDonalds! This makes us wonder about the competency of the 
distributers at NeXt. 

NeXt: If you don't have something in stock, let your customers know, otherwise
get the orders right!!!!!!

Kirk Haller
haller@math.wisc.edu
From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Craftman by Xanthus
Date: 1 Oct 92 19:50:08 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

Anyone know:  Does Craftman use of the database object provide features for  
reportwriting, including sorting and subtotal/subcount (etc.) summary  
statistics?

Phil Menos
gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu
From: serge@princeton.EDU (Serge J. Goldstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: setting default apps
Keywords: default apps inspector
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:19:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: Princeto.1992Sep29.191924.29005
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

I'm running NS 3.0 and trying to set SoundPlayer to start up whenever I
double-click on a file with an ".au" extension.  I clicked on such a file,  
opened the Tools inspector, went to "tools" panel, which presented me with what  
appears to be a file well, currently populated with just Edit.  I tried to drag  
the SoundPlayer Icon into this well, but the Icon just returned to the dock.   
What am I doing wrong?  How do you set an application other than the current  
default to open when you double-click on a file with a certain filetype?

--
Serge J. Goldstein
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: coco@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (felix.lugo)
Subject: Re:  Dropping bundled applications (was: Re: 3.0 and WriteNow)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 15:38:39 GMT

In article <dillon.0osr@overload.Berkeley.CA.US> dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct3.010449.12785@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> coco@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (felix.lugo) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct2.091430.11860@ITcorp.com> geoff@ITcorp.com (Geoff Kuenning) writes:
>>>
>>>How come the release keeps getting bigger, yet the functionality
>>>continues to shrink?
>>>--
>>>	Geoff Kuenning	 geoff@ITcorp.com   uunet!desint!geoff
>>
>>
>>	SHRINK??????  What do you call PostScript Level II, Interactive/Photo-
>>realistic RenderMan/3DKit, AppleTalk, NetWare, PANTONE Color, Macintosh FS,
>>Application Links, CD-ROM, DBKit, Distributed Objects, ISDN/PhoneKit, the
>>Workspace now reuses emptied icon slots on the screen and setuid/gid files
>>are displayed in the File Viewer's "listing" mode 8^), etc.
>>
>>	What got unbundled?  WriteNow!	MusicKit!  /usr/include?  8^)
>>
>>--Felix
>
>    'Look at the pretty pictures ma'!!  All this stuff is great for
>    programmers like us but all the user community sees are the
>    applications that use them, and if the applications aren't there then
>    you are kinda in trouble.
>
>--
>
>    Matthew Dillon		dillon@Overload.Berkeley.CA.US
>    1005 Apollo Way		uunet.uu.net!overload!dillon
>    Incline Village, NV. 89451	ham: KC6LVW (no mail drop)
>    USA 			Sandel-Avery Engineering (702)831-8000
>

	In functional terms, 3.0 got bigger due to all of the above
"features".  Functionality in 3.0, if anything, did not shrink!  I thought
my point was clear; WriteNow got unbundled, but look "ma!" at all the other
goodies that got BUNDLED!

	And yes, all these are great for programmers (I personally prefer
the term "software developer" though), but the end-result is that users
benefit from having them in their base system.  And this is exaclty what NeXT
is providing; a set of common tools/features that developers can mold and
exploit to create powerful end-user applications.  Either way, why should
NeXT be responsible for supplying end-user applications?  That's the reason
third-party companies were invented!

	Personally, I'm glad NeXT decided to drop WriteNow and move their
efforts to providing things like PSII and application links.  Now, if they
would only push their development staff to FIX all the problems that still
exist (and have existed for quite some time, like the Librarian)!?

	Anyway, this all is just my opinion, and you're certainly entitled to
yours ...


G'day,
--Felix

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: wfp@jupiter.claremont.edu (W. Frank Price III)
Subject: Re: Has anyone gotten NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer.app to work?
Reply-To: wprice@pomona.claremont.edu
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 17:57:46 GMT

In article <Bv47oJ.23p@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B.  
Nicholson-Owens) writes:
> Alex Blakemore writes
> > the title says it all.
> 
> Ron Pomeroy x(Coop) writes
> > Just what the hell do I have to do to get this sucker to work ?
> 
> In the release notes it says that if you have both a SCSI ID 0 and SCSI ID 1  
> device hooked up CDPlayer won't "find the CD-ROM drive".  I don't know how  
to  
> make the CDPlayer boot like it should when you insert a audio CD.  I think  
it  
> might have something to do with CDPlayer not being in the Workspace's path,  
but  
> even if CDPlayer is on the dock, it doesn't seem to work upon insertion of  
an  
> audio CD.

CDPlayer never auto-boots for me either.  When CDPlayer is running, I can  
insert a CD and it will keep it in the drive instead of auto-ejecting it as  
usual.  But it will not recognize the CD as audio and allow me to play it.  It  
just sits there in the drive doing nothing and it seems to read my hard drive  
periodically while it does this.  It doesn't matter whether I am root or not  
when this occurs.  I tried what some suggested of moving CDPlayer to  
LocalApps, but that made no difference.  Could it be that I am using an Apple  
CD-ROM drive?  It looks and operates just like the NeXT drive in every other  
way (i.e. I installed 3.0 from it).

Looking forward to coaxing out some music from this thing.

-- Frank
__________________________________________________________________________
Frank Price               | wprice@pomona.claremont.edu
                          | "Nothing crashes like a Macintosh."
NeXTMail appreciated      |      - Guy Kawasaki
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: billb@fnbc.com (Bill Burcham)
Subject: Re: NAG, IMSL, ... for NeXT
Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 14:45:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.195521.28614@sol.UVic.CA> klassen@sol.UVic.CA  
(Melvin Klassen) writes:
> In article <@eratu.rz.uni-konstanz.de>,
>   erland@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de (Erland Wittkoetter) writes:
> >I am looking for commercial numerical libraries (Fortran) for my NeXT.
> >I prefer NAG or IMSL.  Which math libraries are available? Where do
> >I get more informations about the different libraries? 
> 
> According to Richard (R.W. Brankin, Numerical Algorithms Group Ltd.,
> <nagrwb@vax.ox.ac.uk>):
> 
>       NAG Gmbh has its office in Garching bei Munchen, Germany 
>             +49 89 3207395   +49 89 3207396(fax)
>       Email queries can be sent to infodesk@nag.co.uk
> -- 
We use the IMSL libraries on our NeXT's.  Contact the IMSL people (in  
Houston?)
--
+--------------------------------+----------------------------------+
|          Bill Burcham          | "The real world is the place     |
|     Protector of the Realm     |  between your toilet at home and |
| First National Bank of Chicago |  your toilet at work."           |
|    billb@fnbc.com  (NeXTmail)  |                                  |
+--------------------------------+----------------------------------+
From: lacsap@plethora.media.mit.edu (Pascal Chesnais)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: File suffixes and Launching applications
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:44:44 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory

In article <Buqp7y.Mu4@psych.toronto.edu> russ@psych.toronto.edu (Russell  
Sutherland) writes:
> How does one go about setting with file suffixes
> trigger autolaunching of the associated application;
> either by double clicking or the "open" command?
> 
> For example if a file ends in .ps or .eps the Preview
> application is used. I would like to for example
> add the .epsi suffix to this list.
In general the app has to know about the extension.  A way
around this is to use Mike Hawley's Opener.app available
at a ftp server near you.

pasc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: Re: more icons in dock?
Reply-To: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Organization: Metrosoft
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 05:15:08 GMT

In article <22531@galaxy.ucr.edu> curt@doumi.ucr.edu (Curt Burgess)  
writes:
> 
> The application dock is set up so that one can put 13 icons along the
> side of the screen.  Is it possible to have two columns (26 icons)
> along the side of the screen?  I've checked FAQs but find no reference
> to this.  Any ideas?  Thanks!  Curt
> 

There are a number of freeware, shareware and commercial ways to do this.  
At the risk of a plug, our MetroTools package contains an exteremely  
flexible dock extender that allows you to do pretty much whatever you  
would want. You can have up to 32 groups which can each have their own  
dock. Each dock can have its own configuration (direction, tile size, text  
color, etc.), and there's a slew of other features. A MetroTools demo is  
out on the archives.

Gordon
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
Subject: Any cool NeXT related events in Europe between 26 November and 4 Dec?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 04:46:59 GMT


I'm going to be in Luxembourg on Nov 25 & 26 presenting a tutorial,
and will likey be spending the next 4 or 5 (or ??) days hanging out and seeing
the sights there and in the other nearby countries.  I'm wondering if
there are any NeXT related events on 27 Nov or later that I shouldn't
miss, since I'll be in the neighborhood?

louie
From: aha@kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu (Adult Human Abilities Project)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Call for Volunteers
Date: 1 Oct 92 12:34:37 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia, Department of Psychology

In article <1992Sep30.222442.22322@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> aha@squeeg.psyc.virginia.edu (Adult Human Abilities Project) writes:
>
>Dear NeXT Computer Users-
>

Have you ever shot yourself in the foot?  I did last night.

To all of you who volunteered in response to the first appeal,
please accept my humble apologies for the bounced mail. 

To those of you who are still willing, _please_ reply to this
message or email directly to aha@kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu
with a message that says "I volunteer".

We do not yet have enough volunteers to meet our minimum
sample size requirements.  Probably due to my foolish error.
Please give us a second chance.

Steve Boker
 

-- 
The Adult Human Abilities Project      *-------------------------------*
Jefferson Psychometric Laboratory      | aha@kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu |
The University of Virginia             *-------------------------------*
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rcpieter@wsintt04.info.win.tue.nl (Tiggr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Mathematica- can't get our passwords
Date: 29 Sep 92 09:30:34 GMT
Reply-To: rcpieter@info.win.tue.nl

nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:

>NeXT-FAQ.misc: tidbits

>*** Subject: M11. Why doesn't email registration to Mathematica work?

>There is a bug with this option where the mail instead of
>being sent to Wolfram is stored in /tmp/email.message.
>This file seems to be suitable for mailing to
>register@wri.com

Maybe the NeXT-FAQ needs to be adjusted.  The documentation clearly
states what happens if you press the email butten.

On the other hand, trying Services/Mail, the only logical way to email
a document or selection, doesn't work.

Tiggr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Subject: Re: Did NeXT anticipate the CD ROM Drive shortage, maybe
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 03:59:46 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.183607.7233@liveware.com> todd@liveware.com writes:
> After following the thread about NeXT delaying CD Drive shipment
> even further I can't help but think they knew there was going
> to be a problem on quantity.  My reasoning (maybe flawed) is
> due to the offer they made to User Groups to purchase a drive
> and CD for a low price of $452 or something.  This was based
> on the requirement that users who paid and where members of a
> particular group participating in this 'deal' would be able
> to upgrade with this user group drive.
> 
> Now I think the deal was a good one, but at the same time
> it also seems to be the attempt was to cover as much as possible
> with a 'limited' resource pool (ie drives).  It makes some
> sense to me to connect that with the current shortage and point
> a hard finger at NeXT about this issue.  They must have known
> also due to their 'just in time' policy about manufacturing.

I doubt it.  I got that offer too (I'm the president of the RPI NeXT user's  
group), and they gave that offer out a long time ago.  At the time they had  
some backlog of drives, but were still quoting 9 week shipping times.  The  
offer was meant to let a users group buy 1 CD-ROM drive, and have the  
members just buy the Release 3.0 upgrade (sans drive).

I suspect the thing that nailed NeXT was the same thing that nailed us, here  
in the ITS product center (the micro store for RPI).  Hardly anyone ordered  
the CD-ROM drive until release 3.0 was actually shipping.  We only sold a  
few of the special CD-ROM bundle between May (or whenever it came out) and  
September 1st.  We had a lot more orders for the bundle in the second half  
of September.  

If you asked us on September 1st, we would have said "Looks like this bundle  
isn't going to sell all that well".  We probably sold more (well, *ordered*  
more...) in the last week then we did in all the time up to September 1st.   
If the same thing happened with everyone, I can believe that NeXT was caught  
off guard.

[not that the above is any excuse for bundles ordered before Sept 1st, but  
it might help for anything ordered in Sept]

--
Garance Alistair Drosehn     =     gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer            (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute;           Troy NY    USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: woo@ornl.gov(John W. Wooten)
Subject: More indications of bugs in 3.0
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:08:59 GMT

I've had two recent problems that seem to be related to Edit.  In the  
first, several editing windows were open.  When I tried to select on by  
clicking in the window, it was selected.  But, if I tried to move the  
window by clicking in the title bar, the window was moved to the rear!   
This went on for some time.  Eventually the workspace manager also went  
south in some fashion by removing the browser window.  I stopped Edit  
and restarted it.  Then things cleared up.

Just now, I received a document with a rich text attachment.  I saved  
it and opened it.  I saw only ascii text with / and other symbols.  So  
I saved it again after removing some mail info at the top.  The when  
trying to open the document by dbl-clicking again, I get a file system  
error, file doesn't exist.  BUT, It is still showing in the browser  
even after updating, and a more of the file shows it clearly.  Stopping  
and restarting Edit doesn't clear things up.

I would report these to NeXT, but they apparently don't want to hear  
about bugs unless you have a service contract.  If anyone has such a  
beast and wants to forward bug reports, be my guest.

This release offers a lot, but in MHO is flakier than 2.0 was.  I hope  
a 3.1 comes out soon!  This is affecting my ability to get my work done  
and indirectly to keep convincing managment that NeXT is a great  
productivity tool!

-----------------
J. W. Wooten
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: heller@heller.slip.uiuc.edu (Helmut Heller)
Subject: NFS problem, again, arghh!
Reply-To: heller@lisboa.ks.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 14:54:38 GMT
Keywords: NFS, SLIP, write

Hello,
I had thought I finally got NFS under SLIP to work, but now it turns out, I  
can read, but not write to the remote drive! This is not a permissions  
problem as I have the same group and user ID on both systems (at home and on  
the NFS server) and the disk is exported and mounted as rw. Also, I can make  
a file, it just happens to be 0 bytes long :-(

Here what I tried (while being in the remote directory):
heller 42 cpu> cp timetable.rtf ~/tmp
....this one worked just fine
heller 43 cpu> cp ~/tmp/timetable.rtf xxx
cp: xxx: Invalid argument
....here it took for ever. 
heller 44 cpu> ll           
-rw-r-----  1 heller   user       36434 Sep 25 19:08 timetable.rtf
-rw-r-----  1 heller   user           0 Sep 26 08:45 xxx

And on the console I get the following errors:
NFS write failed for server bern: RPC: Timed out

235e0000 


235e0000 


235e0000 


235e0000 

The entry in my fstab (in NetInfo) looks like:
bern:/Users     /Net nfs  
rw,mnttimeo=120,retry=10,timeo=100,retrans=10,intr,soft,wsize=1536,rsize=1536 
,bg,net,noquota 0 0 
.....(all in one line, of course)

Hoping to do the right and also a good thing, but not really knowing what I  
was doing, I changed the rsize and wsize to the same value as my MTU, which  
is given by my server.

Any help and hints are greatly appreciated,
thanks a lot in advance,

--
Servus, Helmut  (W9/DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail preferred________________
heller@lisboa.ks.uiuc.edu   "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" 
FAX:   (217)244-6078                      ZEN, one of BLAKES7                
Phone: (217)244-6914        -------------------------------------------------
Helmut Heller, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, Beckman Institute
Theoretical Biophysics Group, Room 3143, MC 251
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dwatola@praha.jpl.nasa.gov (David A. Watola)
Subject: Re: SPARC (NeXT : -) 10
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:15:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.120257.7774@cbfsb.cb.att.com> mdw@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (mark.d.wuest) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.174314.21388@cs.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
>>I just had a peek at a SPARC 10 machine.
>>You should see some of the cool features it has:
>
>My office mate just got one (so why is the machine by my NeXT an IPX?)
>and you forgot the coolest feature:  $18,000.  Don't think you'll be
>seeing one by my NeXT at home (winning lottery tickets can change
>this opinion).
>

only $18K?  are you sure you didn't get the crippled sparc 10's, i.e.
the model 31?  designed to run at 40 mhz but only runs at 33?

if your office mate actually has the (faster) model 41 i am interested in 
knowing.  so that i can yell at sun because we don't have ours yet.

dwatola@bvd.jpl.nasa.gov

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: alberto@parsec.mixcom.com (Manuel Alberto Ricart)
Subject: 3.0 FontPanel acceleration is broken (BUG!!?)
Followup-To: alberto@parsec.mixcom.com
Reply-To: alberto@parsec.uucp
Organization: I keep everything where I <most likely> can find it.
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 04:30:34 GMT

From the Developer Release Notes/AppKit:

	  The FontPanel, when key, will select in the Family scrolling list when  
	   you type the first few characters of a family name.


Well, What am I missing here. When key (titlebar is black) typing will just  
change the size attribute rather than select the font. Anyone got a better way?
-- 
Manuel Alberto Ricart
alberto@parsec.mixcom.com <NeXTMail Welcome>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mjh@minkowski.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins)
Subject: 3rd Party CD-ROM
Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 15:56:27 GMT


In a recent post about expanding the Dock, someone mentioned
MetroTools1.1.  I checked out the REAME on nova.cc.purdue.edu for
MetroToolsAPI and noticed a line mentioning that the demo would appear
on NeXT's third party CD-ROM.  I think I remember seeing several
references to demos appearing on such a CD-ROM.  I think I assumed it
would be the 3.0-release disk.  It wasn't.  Does anyone know if there
is to be a release of a CD-ROM containing tons of third party demos?



-- 
-----------------------------------
Mike Hopkins
mjh@math.mit.edu
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