HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: ALT.PSYCHOTRONIC
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Stuff & Nonsense Division
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:28:57 GMT

In article <By6t3C.Iv@mach1.wlu.ca> mpitche5@mach1.wlu.ca (mark pitcher 9208 U) writes:

>	ALT.PSYCHOTRONIC will not fit into alt.cult-movies because a.c-m
>deals with individual films,

Where is that written in stone?  If you start discussing psychotronia
in alt.cult-movies, then alt.cult-movies will be about psychotronic
movies.  Q.E.D.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /               Rocks say goodbye.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /
From: IO20650@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: alt.horror.spam?
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:45:39 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

In article <1992Nov18.130831.2540@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mr.
Furr) says:
>should it be alt.food.spam or alt.horror.spam?
Well I think it should be alt.spam, but it definitaly shouldn't be
alt.food.spam.  Now alt.horror.spam?  That has an interesting ring to it, but
we would prefer either just alt.spam, or alt.religion.spam.
--- SPREADER@GANDALF.UMCS.MAINE.EDU  []  IO20650@MAINE.MAINE.EDU ---
                 THANATOS%AILANTH@UUCP.WANG.COM
              Andrew Turner/Thanatos/Daerr/Ledarr
   "Spam!  All hail Gavin, and his wonderful Church of Spam!" - Arjaii
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From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.discordia
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Alt.Spam
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 06:28:57 CST
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

holt_c@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:

> I once had blackened SPAM, seriously.

Could you be more specific?  Did you seriously have blackened SPAM, or
did you have seriously blackened SPAM?

To most, this is a trivial difference.  But, to a SPAMite........
--
Roy M. Silvernail --  roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu - OR-  cybrspc!roy@cs.umn.edu
                         "I'm a model citizen."
                                      -- Warren Zevon
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.discordia
From: reason@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jason E. Reasoner)
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Alt.Spam
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 09:07:05 GMT

YES  YES YES !!  (If it's not too late)

-- 
     ******************************|---------------------------------|
     *  reason@sage.cc.purdue.edu  |"I will not buy this record, it  |
     *  aka  Smegma, Reason, Rand  | is scratched."      -John Cleese|
     ******************************|---------------------------------|
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: ksdavis@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Karleenus Schwartz Davis)
Subject: Re: Expansion of alt.fan.rush-limbaugh proposed
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:41:55 GMT

twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>Mike's point is that this is a fatalist and self-defeating attitude.

In general, you're right.  But in this case, where they're thinking
of splitting alt.fan.rush-limbaugh into subgroups, I think there's
justification to my point that they leave the *.politics discussion in
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh but go ahead with the creation of the others.
Perhaps my perception of alt-as-eternal is fatalist, but using the
facts of the current situation to help avoid one of the well-known
problems of alt is useful in this case.  There's going to be nothing
left for alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, and since the core of his attraction
is his politics, why waste time essentially renaming it?  

Of course, if I were a sysadmin, I'd use the "is this reasonable"
method for dealing with newgroups and rmgroups, but the point is moot.
I'm not, and I have no control mine or your systems.  However, I can
advise the people who want these groups to step lightly around this
problem by simply avoiding the need to rmgroup alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
by specifically delineating what part of the discussion should stay
there -- in my opinion, that'd be the *.politics part.

But, for your convenience, I'll remove the sentence "rmgroups don't
work in alt" from my list of accepted things to say in public.  

-sz
From: yamauchi@ces.cwru.edu (Brian Yamauchi)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: CFD:  Creating an alt.* Newsgroup For Personality Typing Systems
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:50:36
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: yuggoth.ces.cwru.edu
In-reply-to: ksdavis@silver.ucs.indiana.edu's message of Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:57:25 GMT

In article <BxtrFq.72J@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ksdavis@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Karleenus Schwartz Davis) writes:

>I still support the idea of a group for ALL people-testing systems,
>not just personality.  However, it seems I am alone.  I would join a
>group called alt.psychology.psychometrics, where we could discuss  
>personality typing systems, as well as other difficult-to-quantify 
>human qualities, like IQ.  These topics are strongly related, and I
>feel that the group should include all the tests designed to quantify
>these things which are usually left to subjective interpretation.

While such a group may be useful, I think it should be separate from
the group on personality types.  A "psychometrics" group is likely to
attract all sorts of debate on subjects such as "Are IQ tests
culturally biased?", "Is intelligence correlated to race?", "What is
intelligence?", etc.  While such subjects are certainly worthy of
discussion, I'd rather not see the resulting flamewars dominating
alt.personality-types (or whatever it ends up being called).

By the way, I think there has been sufficient interest expressed here
to go ahead with the creation of the newsgroup.  The consensus seems
to be to keep the group in alt.* and to cover all forms of personality
typing schemes (but not other psychological topics), so a name like
"alt.personality-types" or "alt.personality.types" would seem to fit
the bill.

I'd say, go ahead and create it.
--
_______________________________________________________________________________

Brian Yamauchi			Case Western Reserve University
yamauchi@alpha.ces.cwru.edu	Department of Computer Engineering and Science
_______________________________________________________________________________
From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: moving alt.vampyres -> alt.horror.vampyres
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 06:43:05 CST
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bob Sloane) writes:

> For examples of problems caused by attempts to rename groups see:
> 
> alt.bbs.waffle/comp.bbs.waffle,

Juust a small nit.  The comp.bbs.waffle group is a group move, not a
group rename.  The persistance of alt.bbs.waffle is quite beyond our
control, due to some people's ideas about the persistance of alt groups.
--
Roy M. Silvernail --    [my machine ] "Sometimes, you're the windshield....
roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu  [my opinions]            sometimes, you're the bug!"
cybrspc!roy@cs.umn.edu  [my $0.0275 ]                      --Mark Knopfler
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.vampyres
From: mbur@nyx.cs.du.edu (MAC)
Subject: newgroup alt.horror.werewolves
Followup-To: alt.config
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 15:38:38 GMT



For those interested, I just issued a newgroup for alt.horror.werewolves.
It should be making its way to your site in the next day or so.


TTFN,
M
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: alt.horror.spam?
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 09:42:59 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Nov19.193845.4807@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>, corleyj@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Jason D Corley ) writes:
> In article <92323.161245IO20902@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> IO20902@MAINE.MAINE.EDU writes:
>>alt.horror.spam,or alt.food.spam?
>>
>>Nah... alt.religion.spam
> 
> I cast my vote for alt.horror.spam
> 
> Though alt.food-not-bombs.spam has its own ring to is, as does
> alt.spam.spam.

I agree:  alt.horror.spam.

How about alt.fan.monty-python.spam?

--Semhaza
From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Intelligence & personality
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:53:30 GMT
Followup-To: alt.config

In article <BxsBxs.Mn8@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>,
ksdavis@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Karleenus Schwartz Davis) wrote:
> 
> There's been a newsgroup proposed in the alt.* hierarchy (currently
> being discussed in alt.config, the anarchic equivalent to news.groups)
> for the discussion of personality typing systems, which I believe is a
> bit narrowly defined.  It appears, however, that it's on its way to
> being created as alt.personality or some such, because support for
> SOME group of this nature is overwhelming.
> 
> Several people followed up to the proposal suggesting that the group
> include other things like IQ testing as well as personality testing
> (mentioning "psychometrics" as the appropriate word to include all
> these typing/testing systems), so I added my voice to the fray,
> suggesting alt.psychology.psychometrics.  
> 
> Would you participate in a group for discussions of personality as
> related to intelligence and IQ testing, or, alternatively, would you
> like for there to be a group where you can send people who want to
> discuss it, or are you quite happy with the way things are here?  If
> you do support the name alt.psychology.psychometrics, mention it
> loudly and clearly in your followup, because alt.config is a noisy
> place. 
> 
> (If you do followup to this article, watch the Newsgroups: line --
> followups are being sent to alt.config.  Change it if your comments
> are more appropriate for rec.org.mensa.)
> 
> Excuse the interruption.  ;-)

Karleenus's idea is very good.  I support alt.psychology.psychometrics.

alt.psychology.psychometrics alt.psychology.psychometrics
alt.psychology.psychometrics alt.psychology.psychometrics
alt.psychology.psychometrics alt.psychology.psychometrics

+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
|Now that I have a reader that can do .sigs, I can't think of a witty |
|one to put here, so I won't.  All normal disclaimers apply.          |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: newgroup alt.tv.snl
Keywords: saturday night live
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Stuff & Nonsense Division
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:49:12 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.143929.14594@julian.uwo.ca> bedford@asterix.gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Darryl Bedford) writes:

>newgroup alt.tv.snl
>chkgroup alt.tv.snl
>
>sysops:  please create alt.tv.snl as discussed in alt.config
>         Thanks, DB

After that discussion, I hardly see any reason to.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /               Rocks say goodbye.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) / 
Xref: sparky alt.config:7032 news.admin.policy:419 ba.news.config:78 news.config:429 news.groups:22122
From: chuq@Apple.COM (Eeyore's Evil Twin)
Newsgroups: alt.config,news.admin.policy,ba.news.config,news.config,news.groups
Subject: alt.binaries.pics.nudge&wink (important message, flame war to start)
Date: 17 Nov 92 03:49:26 GMT
Followup-To: alt.config
Organization: Pooh Corner Country Club -- A Planned Community

I just posted the following memo internally. I'm passing it along because it
has information of importance to both admins who carry the picture groups
and sites downstream of apple that depend on us for those groups. 

Please read it. I think it's clear we can't pretend that the copyright
violations in alt.binaries.* are okay any more. 

Followups are being sent to alt.config. 

chuq
-----
From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: CRAIG SHERGOLD NEWSGROUP?
Summary: Laugh while you can, MonkeyD00D!
Date: 19 Nov 92 03:38:39 GMT
Reply-To: tjw+@pitt.edu
Followup-To: alt.config
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

The Biffmeister writes:

>HEY D00DZ!!! THIS IS A SERIOUS PROPOSAL!!! DUE TO THE ALARMING NUMBER
>OF PEOPLE WHO POST "A CHILD"S LAST WISH -- SEND BUSINESS CARDS / POST
>CARDS / EGG SHELLS TO CRAIG SHERGOLD" KINDA POSTS, I HAVE DETERMINED A
>NEED FOR A GROUP CALLED ALT.FAN.CRAIG-SHERGOLD. IF YOU THINK SO TOO,
>THEN COO!1, AND LETS HAVE A NEWSG^HFROUP CALLED
>ALT>FAN>CRAIG>SHERGOLD< SHALL WE?

I think that Biff is onto something here.  We could create
"alt.fan.craig-shergold" and point weenies at it to post their dying boy
articles.

Terry "Your's for a better ALTNET" Wood
-- 
        INTERNET: tjw+@pitt.edu         BITNET: TJW@PITTVMS
"Laugh while you can, Monkey Boy!"                        - Lord "John" Warfin
"There can be only one!"                                  - The Highlander
"There should have been only one. I want my money back!"  - Terry
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair)
Subject: Re: alt.saturday.night.live
Reply-To: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Date: 18 Nov 92 00:48:00 GMT

twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
 >No, but there might be some demand for alt.tv.snl.  Or even
 >alt.tv.sat-night-live, if abbreviations are really anathema to you.

Any reason why this should be in alt.* and not us.*?


--
 Iain Sinclair    axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: Marc VanHeyningen <mvanheyn@whale.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Proposal: create alt.security.ripem
X-Quoted: 0%
Organization: Computer Science Dept, Indiana University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 01:07:54 -0500

RIPEM is a package for encrypted electronic mail using RSA public-key
cryptography (mostly) in compliance with the PEM RFCs.  It is scheduled
for release shortly.

There already exists a newsgroup alt.security.pgp for PGP, another
popular program for public-key email.  Thus, I believe the name
alt.security.ripem is best, to remain consistent with this scheme.

Pre-release discussion of RIPEM, scripts for interfacing with it, and
the like have already occurred on existing cryptography and security
newsgroups, and will doubtless increase substantially with its actual
release.  A RIPEM newsgroup would keep such discussion centralized and
allow other groups (e.g. sci.crypt) to remain on a more abstract level.

I propose that alt.security.ripem be created as soon as RIPEM is
released, which should be quite soon.
-- 
Marc VanHeyningen    mvanheyn@whale.cs.indiana.edu    MIME & RIPEM accepted


The number of millionares in the U.S. has increased fourteen fold since 1980.
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: randal@pylon.physics.colostate.edu (randal rheinheimer)
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL:  alt.fan.fantasy.writers
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:00:26 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <c2jqb6q@lynx.unm.edu> quirk@pioneer.unm.edu (Gym Z. Quirk) writes:
> 
> Excuse me...have you *read* r.a.sf.written?
> 
> If you do, you will discover a healthy disucssion of *many* 'Fantasy'
> works (Steve Brust's _Jhereg_ and co. and the perennial Tolkein
> discussion to name but two).
> 
Yes; I read r.a.sf.written regularly.  My main point was that that particular  
newsgroup would be overloaded if the Eddings (Feist, Williams, Weis & Hickman)  
people get on it and discuss their authors' work in detail as they like to do.   
Take a look at alt.fan.eddings for an example of what I mean.
Xref: sparky alt.config:7041 alt.discordia:408 alt.slack:3132
From: shepa@sersun1 (Shepherd A J)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.discordia,alt.slack
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Alt.Spam
Date: 17 Nov 92 10:12:56 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Andrew E. Turner (spreader@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU) wrote:
: In article <92319.154407IO20650@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, <IO20650@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
: |> We of the Spam loving minority wish a Newsgroup of our own.  We want a place
: |> where Spam can be slung freshly everyday, for all to see and gawk at!.  We are
: |> perfectly serious.  We only want ONE measly alt group, not the many, many that
: |> our sla...er members suggested.  Spamists arise!  Post your support for all to
: |> screem at!!
: 
: WE WANT SPAM!  WE WANT SPAM!!  Post for SPAM!  Show your support of SPAM!
: EVERYONE wants SPAM!

Bloody Vikings...

--
And the dandy isn't sure,		| Antony J. "Doppelganger" Shepherd
If there's a cure for his malaise,	| shepa@essex.ac.uk
Another pie in the face,		| ---------------------------------
Another time, and another place...	| "Dandy in Disguise" - Steve Wynn
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.radio.pirate,alt.radio.scanner
From: mbothe@netcom.com (Michael Bothe)
Subject: Re: CFD: alt.radio.sw
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 03:21:57 GMT

rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu (Rich Winkel) writes:

>Any interest out there in a group devoted to shortwave?
>We don't get the rec.* hierarchy here, so no rec.radio.shortwave.

>Rich

Sure, why not. Not much going on here...

Mike

Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
From: jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer)
Subject: Re: Expansion of alt.fan.rush-limbaugh proposed
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:10:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.122714.2899@ryn.mro4.dec.com> shapiro@cfsctc.enet.dec.com (Steve Shapiro) writes:
>
>In article <168A3B412.TKOZMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu>, TKOZMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu
>writes...
>
>>The larger issue, though, is why
>>anyone would actually devote the time and effort to summarizing over 15
>>hours of radio broadcasts every week.
>
>Apparently some people like to freely give of their time and effort for the
>benefit of others. 
>
>Haven't you ever done something for other people out of the goodness of your
>heart? 
>
>The way you word your statement, it appears to me as though you feel that John
>has some ulterior motive to what he does. Tell me that this is not so!

I've already explained this - when Buchanan gets elected in 1996, and Rush
becomes his communications director, I fully expect a nice, cushy White 
House job. Don't know what it would be, but I'd be happy doing something as
simple as clipping newspaper stories - yeah, that'd be the ticket, sitting
around all day with scissors, cutting articles from newspapers, humming
quietly to myself. Or maybe I could shoot for the same job Dave Barry
wants in the Clinton administration - ambassador to Las Vegas. The mind
boggles.
-- 
John Switzer               | "Lobbyists are circling Clinton like slugs
                           | around a saucer of beer."
CompuServe: 74076,1250     | -- Alexander Cockburn, LA Times 11/15/92
Internet: jrs@netcom.com   | (P.S. Impeach Clinton, support the coup!)
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: ksdavis@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Karleenus Schwartz Davis)
Subject: alt.tv.snl (was Re: alt.saturday.night.live)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:15:17 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.134129.7569@julian.uwo.ca> bedford@asterix.gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Darryl Bedford) writes:
>
>>From AGRANT@mta.ca:
>
>>        If it is possible could you please start a newsgroup for
>>me and could you call it Alt.Saturday.Night.Live
>
>Well, is there demand for a.s.n.l.?

If there were, how about naming it alt.tv.snl?  

For the record, this is not a vote of support (I would not be reading
it), just a suggestion.

-sz
Xref: sparky alt.config:7244 rec.music.classical:16748
From: jeffand@csa2.lbl.gov (JEFF ANDERSON)
Newsgroups: alt.config,rec.music.classical
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.fan.callas
Date: 23 Nov 1992 20:06 PST
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.197
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <JOHNSON.92Nov22220138@physics.berkeley.edu>, johnson@physics.berkeley.edu writes...
>I am proposing the group alt.fan.callas to discuss the life and music
>of the late opera diva Maria Callas.  
> 
>...clips already known to exist.  Clearly there is a lot to talk about!
>Is anybody interested?
> 
>--Steve
> 
>P.S. Followups should be posted to alt.config only.

There certainly is a lot to talk about.  The new Roger Scott biogragphy is 
loaded with information about unreleased material, including stuff that EMI
has in its archives but that has never been mentioned by Germond, Ardoin, or any
of the other chroniclers of her career.

Even if new material doesn't continue to come out at the astonishing pace that
it has for the past fifteen years there's plenty to discuss.
We could sustain a newgroup with a discussion of the existing Traviatas alone.

Jeff Anderson
From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: us.tv.chips (was: Re: Create alt.tv.chips)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 12:18:01 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mr. Furr) writes:
> In article <1992Nov18.024501.13567@muddcs.claremont.edu> rlinnema@jarthur.cla
> >I think an alt.tv.chips group would be a great idea.  After all, there 
> >aren't that many other people in Claremont who I can mention
> >CHiPs around without getting badly flamed.  A new group would be perfect
> >for these discussions.  I'm all for it.
> 
> Well, is there any reason why *this* group shouldn't be us.tv.chips?

Actually, this makes more sense as a worldwide newsgroup than groups like
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, in that CHiPs was shown in the UK in the 80's, whereas
we've never suffered Limbaugh at all.


mathew
[ Although the TV stations here have had the good taste not to re-run CHiPs
  recently... ]


Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.discordia
From: cuffell@spot.Colorado.EDU (CUFFELL TIMOTHY MICH)
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Alt.Spam
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:19:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.100557.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> holt_c@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:

>I'm not sure what the qualificationss
>for being the Anti-SPAM are but he might be worth checking up on.
>
>							Sincerely,
>							Lieutenant Wilkes

You have like both Treat, and Potted Meat Product..
-- 

-Tim Cuffel
Xref: sparky alt.config:7174 alt.religion.kibology:4830
From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.religion.kibology
Subject: Re: HOWSABOUT A CRAIG SHERGOLD FAN GROUP???!!!
Date: 19 Nov 92 23:43:26 GMT
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Followup-To: alt.config
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs

Do not *all* newsgroups not already exist for no reason other than the
greater glory of Craig Shergold?
-- 
/|/-\/-\       The entire hall		Jerusalem
 |__/__/_/     is a very publishing house hamantasch.
 |warren@      But the chef
/ nysernet.org is not all that concerned.
Newsgroups: alt.config