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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Truth in Advertising (can the PowerBook talk?)
From: ttak@ellis.uchicago.edu (toki  takeuchi)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 18:05:23 GMT
Reply-To: ttak@midway.uchicago.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

I think MacIntalk 2.0 does work under System 7.  Also,
HyperMacintalk XCMD works with System 7, definitely!

Kenji Takeuchi
From: peter_chen@cbis.ece.drexel.edu (Peter Ming Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Maxtor 213
Date: 20 Aug 92 01:12:50 GMT
Organization: E.C.E. Drexel University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2

The Quatumn  LPS Hard Disk supports SCSI-2. I used the FWB HDT's HDT
Proble to get the information about a Quantum LPS80 HD, it said that it's
SCSI-2 level Hard Disk. I
think that's the reason why Quantum is fast on the Quadra than Maxtor
(Maxtor is a 
SCSI-1 level Hard Disk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: minsky@media.mit.edu (Marvin Minsky)
Subject: Re: Help!  Stubborn Disk Won't Spin Up 1 Last Time
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 07:12:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.182405.16395@cbfsb.cb.att.com> mstov@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (michael.p.stovsky) writes:
>Help!
>
>OK, here's my question.  Does anyone out there know a way to start up a disk
>one last time?  I don't care if it won't start a second time, I jusst need to
>get the data off & then I plan to throw it away.  (Semi destructive methods
>are OK, as long as the data can be moved.)
>
>The disk is a Seagate ST277N.  It's a 60 MB disk, that was set up internally
>in a Mac II.  Its replacement is a 105 MB Quantum.  I still have all the 
>cables etc. & am willing to do most reasonable sounding things.  

Yes.  I once did it for that very Seagate.  Hold it free with its
cables and give it a brisk *rotary* twist on the obvious rotary axis.
It might start.  Much more effective than linear whapping.

(Also, there was some talk of software for tweaking the drive of the
stick-bearing HD40s on older MACs.  Dunno where to find it.

Cheers.

From: Ladd.Morse@p804.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ladd Morse)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Offset from laser output
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 10:37:55 -0500

 
  GM> 1. Is my above assumption correct? 

Yes.  Printing any scanned photo automatically generates a half-tone. Depending
on the software package you print from, it will either use the printer's default
screen value or create a screen value of your choosing via some type of user
selectable specification.


  GM> 2. What is the effect of using the
  GM> "Photograde" output of a IIf or IIg? Or outputting to a Lino?  I
  GM> assume the output process in all cases is such that the output needs
  GM> no further processing.

 Using the photograde output will allow you to create a line screen of higher
frequency.  Ex:  "regular" laserwriters quality maxes out at about 53 lines per
inch screen.  Photograde capable printers max out at, I'm guessing here, about
90 lines per inch screen.

Lino output varies by the model of imagesetter used and will create a superior
image - even if you output at a lower line screen frequency matching the highest
that photograde can do.

  GM> 3. Assuming this is true, then at what
  GM> resolution would an offset press no longer be able to reproduce a
  GM> dithered gray?  (i.e. how fine is too fine?)

This question should be directed to the business that will be doing you
printing. The preferred line screen you should use depends on what type of
printer they have and their skill.  

As a general guideline, a 90 line screen will give you acceptable results and
any printer worth his ink should be able to print it. A 120 or 150 line screen
will give superior results, but will be more expensive to print and may not be
necessary in your case.

You have done your homework well by asking general questions on the net.  
I cannot state strongly enough that if you are working on a project that you are
actually interested in and are spending your (or especially someone else's)
money on, you need to talk to the printer you believe will be doing the job and
find out what their requirements are.
 
If you have not selected a printer, then start talking to a few and find out who
knows the most about the type of computer and software you're using.  Keep
looking until you find someone who goes "sure, I believe I understand what
you're trying to do - do this, this, this and this, and you'll end up with this.
Let me show you an example".  You will save hours, maybe days of time.
 
Ladd
 
  


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From: darweesh@acsu.buffalo.edu (michael j darweesh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.wanted
Subject: Re: Wanted--Info:Optical Drives??
Date: 13 Aug 92 03:02:12 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: UB

>As far as I know, no one makes such a drive. I believe that the spin
>speeds and laser power/properties of CD-ROM and MO drives are very
>different.  Some day, they could be integrated, but probably at great
>expense.  Byt an 3.5" MO and a CD-ROM drive separately; it'll cost
>less that a 5.25 MO, and the MO will run faster.

As far as I know you are wrong. I would however point out that with the
last year, MacUser did a feature article where they reveiwed several
5.25 MO drives. Look for that mag in your library or wherever.
The 3.5s sound neat, but a 5.25 that can also read CDROM would be my
choice....

-Mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: voracek@macdfv.dfrf.nasa.gov (David Voracek)
Subject: What is the difference? (IIsi, IIci, IIfx, etc)
Organization: NASA Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards CA
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:33:13 GMT

OK now I am looking into buying a mac, but there are so many and
so confusing..si, ci, fx, quatra....  

could someone please post and email(sometimes the reader does not
work) some of the difference between the different Macs and what
are the best functions for them..... Price? any information

At work I use a IIfx for all my mac needs and AUX is this the best
machine for the price....at home should i look into something 
different?

good be a good thing to post

email to voracek@macdfv.dfrf.nasa.gov  thanks in advance


david
From: tholland@pars.skidmore.edu (Anthony Holland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: 2 Page Monochrome Monitor for MacIICI ADVICE WANTED
Keywords: monitor
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:34:18 GMT
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY

Looking for a very clear, bright 2 page monitor for our new MacIIci.   
Recommendations on past experience for both hardware and vendors would be  
greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Anthony Holland
Skidmore
From: tholland@pars.skidmore.edu (Anthony Holland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Overhead Projector Device for MacIIci ADVICE WANTED
Keywords: projector
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:40:42 GMT
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY

I'm looking for information on a very clean, clear, easy to read overhead  
projector device which will attach to a MacIIci.  Any advice is greatly  
appreciated.  Please mention hardware, vendor, whatever info you have is  
helpful.  Many thanks !

Anthony Holland
Skidmore College
Saratoga Springs, NY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Apple 4.8 color card - stupid questions
From: Rob Winters <rwinters@nhqvax.hq.nasa.gov>
Date: 17 Aug 92 12:26:50 +0600
Distribution: world
Organization: NASA Headquarters
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1a2Lines: 14

I have a relatively new Apple High Res 4.8 color display card (NuBus)
in a IIcx driving a 13" monitor. The card came with no doc whatsoever.
There are sockets on the card that look like SIMM sockets.

I assume that this is a 4 bit card, and that adding the right stuff will
make it an 8 bit card.

What's the right stuff? Ordinary 256K SIMM's? VRAM?

Will it be any faster, or will it just increase the available color depth?

Thanks for any info.

Rob
From: howarth@rice.edu (Jack W. Howarth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: color monitor artifacts?
Date: 22 Aug 1992 21:18:03 GMT


  I just installed an Xceed MacroColor 30 24-bit color card in my SE/30 and
have hooked it up to a Sony MultiScan 1304S using Xceeds cable adaptor. What
I have noticed is that compared to the 9 inch screen I can notice (if i look
for them) what appears to be movement if the scan lines up the screen. These
don't appear on the B/W display of the SE/30. Any ideas about these. The 
screen is stable and doesn't jump at all. I just can notice tiny bands a few 
pixels apart moving up the screen. Is these due to incomplete multisycning or
maybe the monitor cable from the monitor is picking up noise from the SE/30's
circuitry? Or is this just more noticable on a 14 inch screen? Any solutions
would be welcome...
             Jack

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: steveh@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (Steve Howell)
Subject: supermacs dataframe xp20.. ROM info held on the disk?
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 00:15:54 GMT




	We received the latest version of the dataframe installer software
today. After reading info concerning formatting the drive, i was concerne
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: lahikain@lut.fi (Mikko Lahikainen)
Subject: Problems with Mac II si and 4 mb simm chips HELP HELP
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 03:11:47 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland

Has anyone had problems installing 4 mb simm chips to Mac II si ?


When I put 4 mb chips on, mac started ok, but keyboard wasn't ok. (when
I typed e.g. Mikko , computer added weird characters and the result was
Maikko. Then I looked at apple menu and tested keyboard with keyboard
tester (??) and it seemed that some keys were "stuck", when I pressed the
key that was stuck, some another key got stuck...

I re-installed System 7 and the problem was still there...

Then I replaced 4 mb simms with 512 mb original simms...everything worked
fine... The dealer who sold those 4 mb simms thought that perhaps you
can't use 4 mb simms with Mac II si ???


The dealer promised to take back those 4 mb simms...


Any comment welcome:

Please email:

lahikain@lut.fi


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Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.hardware:15488 comp.sys.mac.misc:15047
From: vreddy@das.harvard.edu (Venkatesh Reddy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: IIsi vs new Macs - should I wait?
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:32:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: das.1992Aug18.173259.1236
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University

In article <1992Aug18.170255.25088@gvl.unisys.com>, dave@prc.unisys.com (David Lee Matuszek) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug18.131234.9706@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> hades@Dartmouth.Edu writes:
|> >
|> >    Yes, I know that there are a number of cases where people can't get
|> >sys 7 versions of their software for whatever reasons, but that doesn't
|> >make system 7 a 'disadvantage'. Incompatible, and sometimes even
|> >unacceptable but there is nothing about System 7 that is disadvantageous,
|> >and that was the point I was trying to make. For a number of people,
|> >System 7 just isn't currently an option for them, but given the option
|> >of either system version I still don't see there being any disadvantage
|> >to choosing 7 over 6.
|> 
|> System 7 is
|>    - bigger,
|>    - slower,
|>    - more complex.
|> 
|> -- 
|> And the President put his hand on my shoulder and said: "Dan, 
|> I _knew_ Spiro Agnew.  He was a friend of mine.  And Dan...  
|> You're no Spiro Agnew!"
|>                 -- Vice President Dan Quayle pwd

Are you a system 7 user? at all? ever played with it extensively? Except for a
few minor memory management errors which almost never surface, system 7 is
definitely better. Yes it's bigger, but it's also better... definitely NOT slower.
It has helped me optimize my performance on my IIci much more than system 6 ever
could. More complex? Sure it is... but that's because it is more versatile and
flexible... But, unless you plan to root around in the OS assembly code, which
I find highly improbable, then system 7 is NOT at a disadvantage to system 6,
and in fact, I think the advatages of 7 over 6 FAR FAR outweigh the disadvantages
(if there are any).

-- Venk Reddy --
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.hardware:15164 comp.sys.mac.system:10905 comp.sys.mac.wanted:7485
From: jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.wanted
Subject: Re: Wanted--Info:Optical Drives??
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:18:39 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: USC-ISI
In-reply-to: dsugar@nyx.cs.du.edu's message of 12 Aug 92 02:03:31 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.020331.4825@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dsugar@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dave Sugar) writes:

>I am considering buying an optical drive for my Mac, and am looking for
>some information on what is out there.  I would like something that has
>the capibility of reading CD-ROM's as well as reading and writing to the
>optical disk.  I guess that means that I would need a 5.25" drive, since
>I know that CD-ROM's are 5.25".  
> Does anyone have experience with a drive like this??  Horror stories
>or even recogmendations for certain drives that are good??  Also, is the
>format the drive can read/write controled by the drive it's self for by
>driver software?
> Please, either reply to the news group or mail me direct.
>
>Thanks for any info
>
>Dave Sugar
>udsugar@mcs.drexel.edu
>dsugar@nyx.cs.du.edu

As far as I know, no one makes such a drive. I believe that the spin
speeds and laser power/properties of CD-ROM and MO drives are very
different.  Some day, they could be integrated, but probably at great
expense.  Byt an 3.5" MO and a CD-ROM drive separately; it'll cost
less that a 5.25 MO, and the MO will run faster.

jas
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac
From: jazzbo@leland.Stanford.EDU (Scott Raymond Harris)
Subject: Re: IIsi vs new Macs - should I wait?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 05:12:25 GMT




>Through mid-October, I can get a Mac IIsi 5/80 for $1572 (bundled with
>Word, a dictionary, an encyclopedia, and some other stuff) through
>the university.  This certainly seems like a good deal in comparison
>to standard retail prices.  But I would be really annoyed with myself
>if I threw out all of this money (which I would have to borrow) only
>to find on October 19 that I could get a bigger-better-stronger-faster
>IIvi (or IIvx?) for even less money.  Does anyone out there have a
>sense of how the new Macs will stack up against the IIsi in performance
>and features?  Any Secret Insider Information would be much appreciated.
>Thanks.

	Yeah, I can get the same deal, but I have to buy in a few weeks:
I'm graduating....  I'll be back in school in a year, so I'll be able to
get educational discounts in another year.  Will a IIsi be a good buy if I
plan to sell it in a year or so and move up to a better machine, or are
they gonna can the IIsi line??  Are they coming out with any new powerbooks?
	The IIsi is at the lower limit of the power I need anyway, since
I do a lot of engineering and math intensive stuff.  

	Is a $1600 IIsi too good of a deal to pass up, or should I wait and
pay retail on a new machine, or maybe get a IIci now?

	My own theory is that prices on the old machines are gonna drop
once the new ones come out and a IIsi to hold me over for a year or two.
 It might be the most economical in the long run....

						-Scott Harris

	Thanks!




From: marki@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com (Mark Ikemoto)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 04:07:02 GMT
Subject: need advice on Mac IIsi simm upgrade
Organization: HP CCSY, Cupertino, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware

I'm a novice Mac user and I just bought a Mac IIsi.  It had 5 Mb of
memory in it but I want to upgrade it to at least 8 Mb.  I've read
the manuals that came with the Mac but they aren't clear as to what
combinations of simms I can install to get the 8 Mb.

Questions:

1. There are four simm slots.  I understand that I have to install
   pairs of the same type of simm.  But do I have to fill all four
   slots with some type of simm or can two of the four slots stay
   empty?

2. If I have to fill all four slots with something, do they all
   have to have the same type of simm?  Or can I mix a pair of
   4 Mb simms with a pair of 2 Mb simms, for example?

3. I saw someone in this group refer to a posting about problems
   with 4-Mb 8-chip simms.  Can someone summarize this posting for
   me via e-mail or send me a copy of that posting?


Thanks for any help on this.



Mark
From: robhon@netcom.com (Rob Honeycutt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Low stress keyboard
Date: 22 Aug 92 02:05:59 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


Does anyone know where to get those keyboards that swivel in the middle
(not unlike Elvis). You know, the kind you would want if you have 
repetative motion syndrome. My friend has this problem and he's starting 
grad school in journalism. So this is a necessity.

If you know anything about this please respond via email as I rarely read
this group.   Thanks in advance!

Rob Honeycutt
robhon@netcom.com
robhon@aol.com
From: cherry@opal.mgh.harvard.edu (Mike Cherry 726-5955)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PowerBook 145 2/80
Date: 14 Aug 92 04:20:00 GMT
Organization: Molecular Biology, Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston

In article <GERLACH.92Aug13092043@greyrock.greyrock.mso.colostate.edu>, gerlach@greyrock.mso.colostate.edu (Scott Gerlach) writes...
>Why would you want a machine with only 2MB RAM?  I don't even use very
>high-powered software on my Mac, and 4MB is just barely enough.
>Buying a 2MB PB 145 is like begging to pay for a RAM upgrade within
>the next 2-6 months.  4MB should be the minimum configuration for all
>new machines IMHO.

Of course 4Mb is a minimum, my personal minimum is 8Mb. But why waste your 
money buy giving it to Apple for over priced RAM or RAM that you will just 
replace.

Why?

How about because third party memory expansion cards are much cheaper than
what you can get from Apple. Same goes for most peripherals like monitors 
and disk drives. But buying memory from Apple is just too expensive.

The big reason is because if you want an 8Mb RAM PowerBook you have to 
take out the 2Mb card that comes on a 4Mb PB and replace it with a 6Mb 
card.

Mike
From: hmayor@bcm.tmc.edu (Heather Mayor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Powerbook 100 modem
Keywords: powerbook modem
Date: 14 Aug 1992 15:22:00 GMT

What is the best modem to use with the powerbook 100?  I/m used to
using the Powerbook 170 and like the internal Apple data/fax
modem.  Will this work with the 100 or is a small external job
a better solution?  If so which one?
Thanks for advice

-heather mayor



From: Bill.Whitacre@p916.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Whitacre)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: ftp sites for Mac software.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 06:41:13 -0500

 JB> >Is there a ftp site for Mac software or shareware? 
 JB> 
 JB> Sure is.. :)
 JB> mac.archive.umich.edu [141.211.182.23]
 JB> 
 JB> Enjoy. Questions? Comments? Send mail to comments@mac.archive.umich.edu.
 
Excuse my ignorance, but how does one get a list of files and actual files from
this or other sources?

Thanks for any help.
From:  (jmhodapp@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: powerbook 100 battery life
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:16:21 GMT
Organization: haphazard, at best

In article <1992Aug20.213139.1@acfcluster.nyu.edu>, mullignj@acfcluster.nyu.edu writes:
> 
> In article <poon.714355014@CAMIS>, poon@camis.Stanford.EDU (Alex Poon) writes:
> > to people with pb 100's:  how long does your battery last before the
> > first warning comes up (during regular use)?  mine lasts for about 1-1:30
> > hours and i think that i may have a defective battery.  any comments?
> 
> If you're accessing the disk allot, then this time is about right.

Another trick is turn screen back lighting WAY (all the way ) down.  That adds
time.  I'm experimenting with using one of those 'Itty Bitty' Book lights to
front illuminate my screen, saving PB power.  It's working OK so far. 
(Don't do graphics like this - eye strain city).  The thing uses cheap batteries
(AA, AAA??) so you can carry those around for spares.

Jon  jmhodapp@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu
====================================
If some unemployed punk in Trenton, New Jersey, lying on a sofa
with a bong can get a cassette to make love to Elle McPherson for
$19.95, this virtual reality stuff is going to make crack look like Sanka.
-  Dennis Miller
From: rkay@ausom.oz.au (Richard Kay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Info On New PowerBooks
Date: 22 Aug 92 11:31:39 GMT
Organization: AUSOM - The Apple Users Society of Melbourne

All those people starving for information about the new Macintosh
PowerBooks may find this stuff from MacWeek interesting:


DOCKABLE DUO READY TO JOIN NOTEBOOK CAST


Here are some extracts from MacWeek 08/10/92:



POWERBOOK DUO:

The dockable design will include a backlit supertwist display measuring
about 9 inches diagonally, offering a resolution of 640 by 480 pixels
and delivering 16 shades of grey. Apple will reportedly offer both a 33
MHz version to be called the Duo 230, and a 25 MHz version called the
210. The Duo will support up to 24 Mbytes of RAM.

A Duo with 4 Mbytes of RAM and an 80 Mbyte hard disk is expected to
cost less than US$3000. A 120 Mbyte configuration will also be
available.

Apple will offer two docking mechanisms, called the Duo Dock and Duo
MiniDock, which will be available separately.

The Duo Dock, which is intended for use on the desktop, includes two
NuBus slots, an additional hard drive, a floppy drive, on-board video
that can display eight-bit color on a 16-inch display, and the standard
array of ports.

The MiniDock, designed primarily to provide the standard Mac ports for
the on-the-road Duos, also supports eight-bit color on a 16-inch
display. The MiniDock reportedly does not include a hard drive or
floppy but will have ports for external storage devices.

Users will dock the Duos as if they are inserting a giant floppy disk -
a mechanism draws the PowerBook into the dock and locks it down.



POWERBOOK 160 AND 180:

The PowerBook 160 is expected to include a backlit supertwist LCD
screen that supports 16 levels of grey, a 25 MHz 68030 without a math
coprocessor and a video-out port that can display eight-bit color on a
13-inch monitor.

The 180, according to sources, will have a 33 MHz 68030 with a math
coprocessor and will support eight-bit color on a 16-inch display.

Like the PowerBook 100 the 160 and 180 can act as an external SCSI drive
when cabled to another Mac.

Both the 160 and the 180 will come in a number of configurations,
starting at a minimum of 4 Mbytes of RAM expandable to 14 Mbytes and an
80 Mbyte or 120 Mbyte hard disk. Prices for the models are expected to
range from about US$2600 to US$3500.



POWERBOOK 145

The recently announced PowerBook 145 will continue to hold up the low
end of the product line. The 170 is expected to be discontinued when
the 180 ships.

Apple declined to comment.

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