From: cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,soc.motss,ca.politics,ba.politics
Subject: Re: "HIV-infected molest suspect outrages town"
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:20:34 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <Bz4xqF.H3q@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, mchaffee@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (REAL LIFE?!?!  HA!!) writes:
> cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
> >No, a homosexual is anyone who has sexual contact with members of
> >his/her own sex.  No requirement for exclusivity.
> 
> Now Clayton, you're doing it again.....If every person who has had sexual con-
> tact with motss is gay, then Masters and Johnson, I believe, says that by that
> definition, about 35% of the population is gay.  Coincidentally, about 35% of

No, 3.3% of males have sex occasionally or regularly with other males.
According to Masters & Johnson.

> child molesters have had contact with adult motss.  However, when you argue
> that homosexuals are disproportionately represented among the evil ranks of
> child molesters, you say 35% of child molesters are gay and only 4% of people
> in general are gay.  Doesn't compute.  Give it up.  Do you realize they have
> started making fun of you on rec.humor?  Yer famous, buddy!

You aren't even reading carefully enough to quote me out of context.

> BTW, while I have your attention, were you molested as a child?  Now, according

No.

> to your beautifully-supported, well-written, and largely worthless posting on
> the connection between homosexuals and child molesting, one reason you think it
> is safe to assume that most gays have been molested is that they deny having
> been molested.  Did you deny having been molested?  Hmmm.....

Where did I say that?  By the way, I have since obtained a copy of the
survey done by San Francisco Dept. of Public Health a couple of years
ago.  28% of the gay/bi men were aware of being molested as children;
48% of the gay/bi women as well.  That's roughly 2x what you would
expect for the men, and about 1.5x what you would expect for the women.

> Tell us a few other things, Clayton.  What do you look like?  Are you svelte
> and pretty?  Or are you a bit pudgy?  If so, I bet you have an eating disorder
> which must be a result of being molested.

I've somewhere between svelte and pudgy.  (Too much sitting at a desk.)
No, I don't have an eating disorder, above and beyond the average
sedentary American's disorder.

> We have been molested because we pierce our ears, noses, nipples, etc., right?
> Do you find pleasure in consistently insulting a group of people who have the
> sense to realize (and blatantly state) that you are trash?  I think you are
> causing pain to yourself because you were molested as a child.

You didn't read what I wrote very carefully, did you?

> There you have it, folks.  I have proven, using Our Hero Clayton's OWN "LOGIC"
> that he was molested as a child.  Don't try to deny it Clayton, we know better.
> Michael T. Chaffee        | mchaffee@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu  |  ______    

Yet another example of the emotional disability that is homosexuality.


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