HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sepehr@falstaff.dev.cdx.mot.com (Sepehr Mehranbanzad)
Subject: Re: words from shAh-nAmeh [sci-anon-poster]
Organization: Motorola Codex, Canton, Massachusetts
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:09:18 GMT

In article <lkpausINNe2n@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> >>>>>> Anonymous writes:
>
>
>	[ the rest of the article deleted ]
>
>number of flowers!). Do you have the time and access to resources to find
>the meaning of those names and complete Nooshin's list, which is a nice
>one?
>
>Few months after the rev... when I was a junior at National University
						^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Highscool of Iran ( woops! my identity!), our Modern Mathematics teacher,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Salam,
I used to go to that school long time ago. I was wondering whom you might be.
It is always nice to chat with an old school mate.

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From: U876567@u1.cdram.com
Subject: Re: Lost Helicopter [sci-anon-poster]
Organization: Unix public Access
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 07:59:34 GMT

In <lks338INNk7f@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> >>>>>> Anonymous writes:

>Has anyone heard any confirmed news about the lost 
>helicopter in Iran yet, as what the story was behind it?  

>Thanks  
> 

I personally have not, but you can check the Dialog services to find out
if there has been any news reports in this area.  Check your local library
for Dialog search.

                     With highest regards,
                          Babak   Sehari.
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From: mmdh@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (Mazen Mokhtar)
Subject: Re: Question about rape
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:51:21 GMT

In article <43177@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> revans@euclid.ucsd.edu (Ron Evans) writes:
><9301070105.AA05389@apollo3.ntt.jp> farzin@apollo3.ntt.jp (Farzin Mokhtarian):
>>"The only duty religion requires of a married woman is
>>submitting to sexual relations with the husband," she said.

  I respectfully disagree with Farzin. There are other duties required of a
Muslim woman toward her husband, and there are many duties required of a
Muslim man toward his wife.

>	I don't understand.  How often does the woman have to
>	submit?  What if she is only rarely in the mood?

  Marriage is not a battle, it is an experience of love and sharing. Each
partner should be considerate of the other. She should put an effort to
please him and he should put an effort not to tire her.

>	I have also a hypothetical question.  Two Muslim
>	women were raped today on different streets in the
>	city. One was wearing the hijab, the other
>	western dress and lipstick.  Would (should?) both
>	rapists receive equally severe punishment?

  Yes, the punishment to the rapist should be the same. However, a Muslim
woman should respect the law of Islam, and she is blameworthy if she makes
herself a target whether she is eventually raped, or she is more fortunate.
The blame that can be placed on the woman is independent of the crime and
its punishment.


Mazen Mokhtar
From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Haji's KABOB KOBIDE
Date: 12 Jan 1993 08:08:20 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA  USA
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In article <1993Jan11.214856.29266@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> afsar@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Haji Firoz) writes:

[ haji firooz's detailed receipe deleted ].

haji, i am droooooooling!  khodaa begam chikaaret koneh!  i havent
had a home-cooked kabob looleh (as we ahvaazis call it) since the
continents started drifting apart...

if i remember correctly, you offered me a chelo kabob in one of your
recent posts (dont deny it cuz i can go and dig it up!).  was that just
taa'aarof or did you mean it???  if you invite me over, i promise to 
write a nice review on sci for you.  you dont have to tell me your
real name either!  ill just call you haji.  tell you what, you can cook
at my place.  we have a couple of big manghals.

Ashpazkhooneh by shahrokh,
kabob by haji firooz,
polo by ralph loren!

>I hope I made your day. 

you sure did!
From: >>>>>> Anonymous
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: [sci-anon-poster]
Date: 9 Jan 1993 22:22:23 GMT
Organization: Notgheh MajjAni, Inc.
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To: sci-anon-poster 



bsadeghi@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Behzad Sadeghi) writes:

>In article <lkrbgsINNiih@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> >>>>>> Anonymous writes:

	[ stuff partly deleted ]

>>Long live our Persian homeland

>right! and our pure aryan race.

	WRONG! You are using the same trick that hezbollahis use to
	discredit people. If you use this trick back home, you may
	have some success, but not here. I made it clear when I responded
	to replies to my second article.

>get real!

	Don't get emotional, try to maintain your composure and use
	your brain while responding to people whose ideas are different 
	from yours.

>behzad

Long live our Persian homeland

ShahrAm






 
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From: Babak Sehari
Subject: POLISH OIL IMPORTS FROM IRAN TO REMAIN STEADY 
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 03:07:03 GMT


----

 POLISH OIL IMPORTS FROM IRAN TO REMAIN STEADY 
    WARSAW, Jan 7, Reuter - Polish imports of crude oil from Iran will remain
steady at around three million tonnes this year, Polish Foreign Minister
Krzysztof Skubiszewski said on Thursday. 
    Skubiszewski discussed trade and regional issues with Iranian Foreign
Minister Ali Akbar Velayati on the first day of a two-day visit to Poland. 
    ``This (oil imports) will continue at about three million tonnes a year,''
Skubiszewski told reporters. 
    He made clear that Poland wanted long-term cooperation with Iran over oil
and could gradually increase imports. 
    ``We now have an arrangement for this year but we would like to continue it
in 1994 and later and to make this trade -- the purchases of oil -- stable,''
Skubiszewski said. 
    ``I think we may count on a slight increase by comparison to the past
year,'' he said. 
    Polish newspapers have said the Polish government wants to import about 3.5
million tonnes of oil from Iran in 1993, or just over 20 per cent of its total
oil needs. 
    Russia is Poland's main energy supplier but Warsaw has been sounding out
alternative energy suppliers since the end of communist rule in Eastern Europe.
 REUTER TJH RLH 

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From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: UN Chief May Allow Deportees To Be Interned In Israel
Followup-To: poster
Originator: sehari@bart.ecss.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:00:11 GMT

12/30 (DJ) UN Chief May Allow Deportees To Be Interned In Israel

    GENEVA -DJ- U.N. Secretary-General Boutros-Ghali suggested as a
compromise that the Palestinians deported to Lebanon should be sent back
to internment camps in Israel.
    After a one-hour meeting with Palestine Liberation Organization
leader Yasser Arafat, the U.N. chief described Israel's expulsion of the
415 men as a ''basic obstacle'' to the Middle East peace process.
    He said that staff members of the U.N. Relief and Works Agency - the
agency helping Palestinians in the Occupied territories - were among
those deported.
    He did not say what Arafat's reaction to the proposal was. The U.N.
special envoy, James Jonah is currently in the region trying to find a
solution to the crisis.
    Arafat told an earlier news conference that Israel's deportation was
part of a policy of forced transfer of the Palestinian population which
''constitutes ethnic cleansing and a war crime.''
    Arafat said he had asked Boutros-Ghali to use his influence to
ensure the men were able to return home.
     8:53 AM
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From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: U.S. Aircraft Carrier Returns To Gulf To Enforce No-Fly Zone
Followup-To: poster
Originator: sehari@bart.ecss.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:01:49 GMT

12/31 (DJ) U.S. Aircraft Carrier Returns To Gulf To Enforce No-Fly Zone

    MANAMA, Bahrain -AP- The aircraft carrier USS Kitty Hawk returned to
the Persian Gulf region today to enforce the ''no-fly'' zone in southern
Iraq, a U.S. Navy spokesman said.
    The carrier, he said, would resume support of the mission of the
U.S., British and French air force warplanes patrolling the no-fly zone
south of parallel 32 in Iraq. Cole said the carrier's warplanes could
immediately fly to help patrol the no-fly zone.
    The Kitty Hawk relieved the USS Ranger, which was withdrawn from the
region in early December to support Operation Restore Hope off Somalia.
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Make your own judgment regarding it's truth or falsehood.  If you believe
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From: mmdh@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (Mazen Mokhtar)
Subject: Re: Question about rape
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:28:29 GMT

Shahrokh Mortazavi writes:
>but is that really the sort of 'effectiveness' that you can be proud of?

  Certainly. The punishments fit the crimes and fewer innocent people are hurt.

>so youre arguing that the ends justify the means.  doesnt matter how
>humane or barbaric the approach is, as long the goal is achieved.

  No, I was asked if these methods were effective and I proved that they
were exceptionally so. You may consider them barbaric, but I consider
them merciful on the millions of innocent people who don't have to live
in fear of being victims of rape, murder or theft. Since when is capital
punishment barbaric? What makes a punishment barbaric? Is it that it is
effective?

  Islamic law has succeeded in curbing crime, first by removing its causes
through social justice then by detering those who would be criminals anyway
through its punishments. Personally, I would rather live in a state in which
criminals are punished rather than released after a week for "prison
overcrowding."

  Barbaric is not the punishment of criminals, barbaric is the killing of a
quarter of a million civilian men, women, children and elderly people by
indiscriminate "carpet bombing" while calling their criminal dictator "not a
target" after having supported him for two decades.

>  if crime is low in saudi arabia its partly because they are a very rich
>country. try taking away its money and youll end up with another somalia - an
>islamic state where theft, looting and crime is part of everyday life, no
>matter what punishment the Most Wise mandated.

  This is incorrect. Saudi Arabia had a very low crime rate long before the
inflow of money (actually a slightly lower crime rate.) There are other
countries which are also wealthy and which have a higher crime rate than
Saudi Arabia. I think they will continue to do so until they learn that
punishment prevents crime.

  The fact is, the punishments work and they make entire nations feel
secure at home or in the street.

  Also, Somalia is not an Islamic state, and neither is Saudi Arabia. They are
Muslim states until they actually apply Islam as is mandatory.


Mazen Mokhtar
From: majidi@rwja.umdnj.edu (Masoud Majidi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: The Persain calender year
Date: 12 Jan 93 01:38:50 GMT
Organization: Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, Piscataway NJ

majidi@rwja.umdnj.edu (Masoud Majidi) writes:

>mehdizadeh@asl.slb.com writes:

>>I was wondering if any one out their knows what the Persian Calender is
>>based upon?  In other words what happened 1372 years ago?

>The origin of the persian calendar is the same as the Muslim calendar and
>is when prophet Mohammad and some of his followers fleed Mecca for their
>lives and went to Medina. This historic trip is known as 'Hijre' (Hejrat
>in persian) and that is why we refer to the dates in our calendar as 'Hejri
>Shamsi'. Also 'shams' means sun and it refers to how we measure the length
>of the year (i.e. the length of our year is the time it takes the earth to 
>orbit the sun, ~355.4 days)
                 ^^^^^^^^^^

As somebody pointed out to me this should be 365.4 and NOT 355.4

sorry about the typo ...

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From: forghani@condor.ccrit.doc.ca (B. Forghani (Idacom/HP))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re; Question About Rape! [sci-poster]
Date: 11 Jan 1993 20:26:33 GMT
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Subject: Re; Question About Rape!


<revans@euclid.ucsd.edu>, Ron Evans writes:

>I don't understand.  How often does the woman have to
>submit?  What if she is only rarely in the mood?

From electronically scanned versions of M.H.  Shakir's
translation of the Holy Qur'an, as published by Tahrike Tarsile
Qur'an, Inc., P.O. Box 1115, Elmhurst, New York 11373.

Quran, Woman(004).34 says:

34. Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has
made some of them to excel others and because they spend out
of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding 
the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose
part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in
the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not
seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

I got the reference number from the public domain Quran (Quran.tar.Z).
For some reason, my own version of Quran shows this verse as 38. Anyways,
this  verse was inspired when one of the Mohammad's sahabeh(apostles?) had
beaten up his wife when she refused to sleep with him and his wife was
seeking justice.  I read this story in the boarder of Quran text. In Iran,
the boarder of Quran is covered with the explanation or a brief history of
the verses in each page.

If the story is true, as most shiits clergy believe, desertion refers to
refusal of a woman to have sex with her husband, she must first be adviced,
then beaten up.  If you don't believe me check it out for yourself. Disclaimer:
Like any other translation of Quran, the verse has lost its rhyme due to
translation and most arabic speeking people urge you to read the original
rhyming text in arabic.

As Sharam writes:

>That's simple. The couple gets divorce so that the woman
>can marry someone who is rarely in mood and the man can
>marry a woman who is always horny.

I agree with you completely.IIf a man is sexually unsatisfied with his wife
woman, he can always get divorced and mary another hornier woman. There is no
need for a law forcing women to submit to their husband at his wish. As long
as couples can get divorced and remarry, which is the case with islam.

Regards,
Behdad




 
 
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Subject: Jobs Offered
Keywords: Speech Coding, DSP
Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:26:03 GMT

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From: hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem)
Subject: Re: HELP! Need To Send Urgent Letter To Tehran
Reply-To: hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:25:54 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.185020.7571@almserv.uucp>, s5ubxh@fnma.COM
(Behrooz Hadavi) writes:
> Try sending it via FEDEX or DHL.  They all guarantee 2-3 day delivery.
> 

Yes, DHL definitely is good but I believe that they want around $100. I
have no experience with FEDEX. However, I understand that they only
charge $30-40 or there abouts.

Brad Hernlem (hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi)
Subject: Re: where is everybody?
Organization: kah-kashAn
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 03:12:36 GMT

In article <lkn5lrINNa3n@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM
(Shahrokh Mortazavi) writes:
>is something wrong with our news host?  is everyone still
>on vacation?  sci is unusually whistle and blind these days... 

hAzer!

Still waiting for your part 2, where is it?  Or you just put us in suspense.

Regards,
Hooshyar    (1/2)

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From: ilyess@ECE.Concordia.CA (Ilyess Bdira)
Subject: Re: Question about rape
Organization: ECE - Concordia University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:54:22 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.102422.16403@dsg.cs.tcd.ie> ahmed@dsg.cs.tcd.ie (Ahmed El-Habbash) writes:
a discussion about rape...

I usually do not want to get into discussions about this (this is not
the right forum, not because the subject is irrelevent to the group but
because of the nature of the audience) but,..

All punishments in Islam are not designed as the main way to combat
crime but as a mean to eradicate it after all the motives for it are
eliminated or reduced to such a level that a criminal becomes an oddity
and a cancer that must be surgically treated or removed.

The main tools to combat crime are:
1)Social/Economic justice
2)Education (Islamic education that stresses virtues)
3)AN Islamic environment that minimizes the effects of instincts and
passions by minimizing those needs (hunger, sexual desires, greed etc..)

AFTER that environment is provided, we may talk about Hudud as  means to
treat a negligible number of cases.

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If it can happen, it will happen...
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