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From: keesh@wsinti01.info.win.tue.nl (Kees Huizing)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Powerbook/Duo keyboards
Date: 15 Dec 92 11:35:00 GMT
Reply-To: keesh@info.win.tue.nl

ra00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Agustin) writes:

>I'm wondering what the layout of the Powerbook/Duo keyboard is like,
>i.e. how many command/option/comtrol keys are there, is there an escape
>key, are there cursor keys, etc...?  Anyone who regularly uses an
>extended keyboard like I do care to post comments on how the keyboard
>"feels"?

Except the function-keys, numeric keys, and the delete key, everything is
there on a PowerBook 160. They are arranged as follows:

plusminus                                                  backspace
paragraph

Tab               STANDARD KEYS                                 Re
                                                                tu
Capslock                                              vertbar   rn
						      bkslash  

Shift  tilde                                           Shift    Up
       backquote

Ctrl  Option Command Escape  ssppaaccee Enter  Left   Right   Down

Notes: Command key is about the size of two regular keys, there is only one
command key (Apple, Clover, Propellor, etc.)
Placement of Escape and Enter is funny.

The keyboard has a somewhat softer feel than a most desktop keyboards. In
the very beginning, it gives an uneasy, rubbery, or spongy feel. I got
quickly used to it (even alternating all the time  between desktop kbd's and PB kbd), and I appreciated the low noise quickly. For those who know it: it's
better than the Atari kbd, although you have to think into that direction,
if you want to know what feels like.

By the way, the trackball takes me more time to get used to, especially when
alternating between the ADB mouse and the trackball. 

-- 
Kees Huizing - Eindhoven Univ of Techn - Dept Math & Comp Sc - The Netherlands
e-mail: keesh@win.tue.nl   telephone: +31-40-474120    fax: +31-40-463992
From: eric.larson@f620.n2605.z1.ieee.org (eric larson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Where the mac really wins
Date: 18 Dec 92 02:27:03 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2605/620 - Shockwave Rid, Freehold NJ


 # Its kinda ironic because I've had mail in the last few days saying
 # how Microsoft intentionally sabotages Mac software so Windows will
 # sell. Yeah right. So why Word and Excel?

Then Howcum Mac Word doesn't have the complete WFW feature set? Or Howcum Mac
QuickBasic doesn't hvae the complete MS-DOS QuickBASIC feature set? Or Howcum
Microsoft is advertising so heavily in Mac magazines for Mac programmers to
attend it's Windows programming seminars?

Finally, and this is the one I get the biggest charge out of - take a look at
the ads for the Mac version of Word - notice how the screen shots all use the
MS Windows color scheme, which is utterly alien to the Mac? Don't you think
there is a reason for this??????

 # Probably the Mac. But who knows what was available back in the
 # days of Windows 1? Who cares anyway? Back then 123 beat the heck
 # out of Excel on the Mac 512s and Pluses that were prevalent at
 # the time

WRONG. Many reviews at that time clearly identified Excel on the Mac as being
far superior to 123. Hell, 123 had TERRIBLE output quality, limited to screen
resolution, while Excel produces fantastic vector output that was scalable to
any quality printer that you could get. I blew many a manager's socks off with
slides generated from Excel that he couldn't match without paying $300 a pop
at Genigraphics to duplicate.

 # You could have larger sheets and faster recalcs than
 # the Macs could handle on an XT.

Yeah, right. An XT with 640K RAM could have a larger spreadsheet than a Mac
Plus with 4 MB of RAM. Or a spreadsheet without partial recalc could
outperform one on a machine with 4 times the CPU speed, 8 times the RAM, and
running a spreadsheet that supports partial recalc.

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From: licht-jeffrey@yale.edu (Jeffrey Licht)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Differences between color cards for the SE/30
Date: 16 Dec 1992 18:23:35 -0500
Organization: Yale University Science & Engineering UNIX(tm), New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: minerva.cis.yale.edu


I'm planning on getting a color monitor for my SE/30.  I've settled on the
Apple 14" for the monitor, but I'm not sure which card to get.  I want at least
16-bit (for Quicktime) and maybe 24, if it doesn't cost that much more.

My question is, what is the difference, if any, between the various color cards
for the SE/30?  Besides bit depth, is there any compelling reason to choose
one over the other, for example, are some slower than others?  I'm specifically
looking at the Lapis 16-bit, Micron 24-bit, and a (used) RasterOps 24-bit.  Any
information on these particular boards would be appreciated.

Thanks.

-- 

Jeffrey Licht 					 jeffrey@minerva.cis.yale.edu
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From: jfw@jfwhome.FUNHOUSE.COM (John F. Woods)
Subject: Re: Performa 600 - not a cripple!
Organization: Misanthropes-R-Us
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 14:58:00 GMT

In <D2150056.kuuuce@erics.infoserv.com> erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith) writes:
>The correct machine to compare against the P600 is the IIci, not the
>IIsi.

Why?  Does it cost the same as a IIci?  According to MacWeek, the price of
the Performa 600 (street $2000) is much closer to the IIsi (list $1999) than the
IIci (list $2719).  Or are you comparing against the IIci in order to make
sure that your claim that the Performa 600 is an inferior machine looks
justified?  Heck, why not compare it against a Quadra 950?  A Cray 2?
MacUser's recent Buyers' Guide also kind of panned the Performa 600, but at
least their analysis was more insightful than "Hey, it's not as good as a IIci!
THTHTHTHRRRP!".

>Other factors are
>a matter of taste, but I much prefer the IIci's plastic case to the P600's
>metal one.

As a user of the radio spectrum, I applaud Apple's efforts to continue to
improve the radiation characteristics of their machines.  While the IIci is
very quiet, the metal cases are not only cheaper for Apple to manufacture,
they are also better suited to meeting RFI and EMC requirements.
From: vermilye@Oswego.EDU (Jon R. Vermilye)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: MacPlus failure (SUMMARY)
Date: 20 Dec 92 18:05:30 GMT
Reply-To: vermilye@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Jon R. Vermilye)
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY

In article <james.724640832@wrs.com> james@wrs.com writes:
>I'm having problems with my Plus, and one of the solutions posted
>recently was a board swap from GE Computer:
>
>   G.E. Computer                 $58 to exchange the analog board
>   2338-G Walsh Avenue
>   Santa Clara CA 95051
>   408-998-2334
>
>However, this number is wrong (the guy who answered the phone said it
>was in fact his number, and he didn't have any idea who GE Computer
>was) and information doesn't have a number for Santa Clara.  Do they still
>exist, and if not, does anyone provide a similar service?
>
>-- 
They still exist - They also call themselves 800 We fix Macs (their 800
number - I know it is too many digits, but it works).

Other #'s for GE are 408 988 2338 & 408 727 7978 (FAX).  We have used them
                          ^ 
for a number of repairs, no problems yet.  They also do Brainstorm upgrades
for Mac + 's for about $225.00 installed (you send the logic board).

>James Moore                            /|\                        james@wrs.com
>Wind River Systems                     \|/                  Alameda, California
>	 "Half of what he said meant something else, and the other half
>			  didn't mean anything at all"


Jon R. Vermilye                          		         315 341 2138
Department of Theatre, Tyler Hall                  vermilye@oswego.oswego.edu
SUNY Oswego                                         ..rutgers!oswego!vermilye
Oswego, NY 13126                                     vermilye@snyoswva.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: ematias@dgp.toronto.edu (Edgar Matias)
Subject: Re: HELP: LCII is really sloooooow
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:41:42 GMT


I didn't catch the beginning of you message, so I don't know the 
details of your problem.  However, one of our LCs slowed down to a 
(dying) crawl a few months back.  Turns out that there were documents
that were stuck in the background printing queue, which hogged all the
processing time.  All we had to do was look in the "PrintMonitor Documents"
folder (in your System Folder) and delete what was inside.  That
did the trick...

Good luck,
Edgar
-- 
Edgar Matias
Input Research Group
University of Toronto
--
I speak for no one...
From: rdmonso@snll-arpagw.llnl.gov (monson robert d)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Apple 13" rgb monitor switches off after use for about 15-20 mins
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:12:37 GMT
Organization: Sandia National Labs, Livermore, CA


This sounds like the same problem I had.  It turned out to be a bad
high voltage capacitor, a common problem according to our computer
repair people.  Apple published a bulletin (to authorized repair
personnel) which said they would reimburse consumers for the repair cost
if the monitor's serial number (or was it the capacitor's? -- its been a
while and I'm a bit fuzzy) fell within a certain range.  I qualified and
Apple reimbursed me for my repair bill.  I think this this program only
lasted for a few months and has since expired.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Non-Mac Appleshare servers
From: scasterg@waltham.columbus.oh.us
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 02:56:22 -0500
X-Mailer: rnMac Buggy, I mean Beta, Test Version

I'm interested in opinions people have about Appleshare servers 
running
on dos/unix/other boxes. I've heard some good reports. MacWeek gave a 
good
review to the Viper by Shirtpocket(?was it them?). Saying it gives
very good performance for much lower cost than a comparable 
Macintosh.

Any others? Bad experiences?
From: jdzakar@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Joseph D. Zakar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Looking for Chip Merchant's phone number
Date: 16 Dec 92 02:19:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Great Beyond


Could someone kindly send me the phone number of the Chip Merchant?
I'm guessing that they have a good price on 4Mbyte SIMMs these days.
Thanks.

Joe Zakar
jdzakar@afterlife.ncsc.mil
From: Glen.Stewart@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Glen Stewart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: RE: Apple CD SC Repairs
Date: 18 Dec 92 20:37:54 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2240/175 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI

Don-

I'm afraid I don't know who or where you could get that CD ROM repaired - I
ran into the same problem when I zapped my 800k internal Apple drive.  They
wanted $150 to repair it, and I bought a new Fujitsu external for $79!

I'm kinda curious about that unit of yours...what does it do/not do?  Perhaps
I can help troubleshoot it, to the note-taking benefit of others here?

If all else fails, I would be interested in trading for my 10-band Teac
graphic equlizer.  It's been used only a few times (though it's sat around for 
many months).  Let me know if you can't fix the ROM player.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jmunkki@vipunen.hut.fi (Juri Munkki)
Subject: PB160/180 with external 16" monitor
Reply-To: jmunkki@vipunen.hut.fi (Juri Munkki)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:51:57 GMT

The (Finnish) manual that came with my PB160 says that if I use an external
16" color monitor, the powerbook will automatically operate in power saving
mode (16Mhz) to prevent overheating and to allow the battery to recharge.

I happen to have a 16" display and the computer runs just as fast as without
the monitor.

My question is: if I leave the computer running at 25Mhz, is there a risk of
experiencing reliability problems? In addition to the monitor, I have a
PowerPort/Silver internal modem and a 4MB memory expansion card.

In the course of trying to determine how efficient the video interface
is, I ran some tests on my old PB140 and the new machine in various
modes and configurations. The PB160 is significantly faster than the
PB140 even when the machines are running at the same clock speed.

-- 
  Juri Munkki					       Windsurf: fast sailing
 jmunkki@hut.fi					      Macintosh: fast software
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jgraham@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (the End)
Subject: Re: Video Card like MAZ
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:40:19 GMT

>>Does anyone make an 8-bit video card for a IIci that will fill in the unused
>>borders of a 14 inch Apple color monitor a la MaxAppleZoom?

>Yes -- Apple.  Just get an Apple video card and use MaxAppleZoom with
>it.

>--
>Steve Kanefsky

Oh, thanks a lot Captain Obvious. Do you have any other knowledge to bestow
on the net ? You must have butchered the "reading comprehension" section
of your SAT.


Jim
J. Graham
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: chh9@quads.uchicago.edu (Conrad Halling)
Subject: Re: Buy pb180 now, or wait for Febuary pb's?
Reply-To: chh9@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:06:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.181924.26801@midway.uchicago.edu> 
  I wrote:

>The only advantages of the 180 over the 160 are the FPU (which you wouldn't 
>use for word processing) and the nicer, much more expensive screen.  

I forgot that the 180 runs at 33 MHz, the 160 at "only" 25 MHz.

-- 
Conrad Halling
c-halling@uchicago.edu
From: truesdel@ics.uci.edu (Scott Truesdell)
Subject: Re: PowerBook 10M RAM cards... availability?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: ICS Department, U.C.I.
Date: 17 Dec 92 04:33:06 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware

In article <1992Dec12.234243.7949@u.washington.edu>,
jaesyn@carson.u.washington.edu (Jason Smith) wrote:
>
>
> 	The subject line sums it up.  I'm looking for a 10M RAM card for my
> 180, which requires 85ns RAM.

King Memory & Peripherals, Inc.
20 Fairbanks    Suite 171
Irvine, CA  (sorry, no zip code)

(714) 380-9876

$495 + 38.36 sales tax.
These guys make parts for Apple.

  --scott
From: rhaller@ns.uoregon.edu (Rich Haller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: PBs and screen savers
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Date: 17 Dec 1992 00:12:20 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rhaller.cc.uoregon.edu

Is there any consensus on whether one needs a screen saver with the backlit
supertwist screens in the new powerbooks (160, and duos)? The backlighting
goes away automatically with inactivity.

-Rich Haller <rhaller@ns.uoregon.edu>   University of Oregon, Eugene, OR,
USA
From: kvj@triple-i.com (Karl vonJena)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Bernoulli 90 or SyQuest 88?
Date: 11 Dec 92 17:58:58 GMT
Reply-To: kvj@triple-i.com
Organization: Information International, Inc.


I was recently involved in a test conducted by Seybold to test high-end film recorders. The test files (Quark documents, scanned images, and EPS files) were shipped on Bernoulli cartridges. We found this a little annoying at first as we did not have a drive. Seybold loaned us a drive for the test, and later offered it for sale at a nice discount. When I asked them why Bernoulli, they said that they are 2 MB larger and less prone to damage from rough handling.

Now, I don't agree with everything that Johnathan Seybold and Co. says, but in this case, I agree. We've used both Syquest and Bernoulli cartridges for a while and I've had about 4 Syquests go bad. But not one Bernoulli failure.

For whatever its worth...

karl
______________________________________________________________
I wish there was a knob on the TV to turn up the intelligence.
There's  a knob called "brightness", but it doesn't work.
		-- Gallagher

kvj@triple-i.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Distribution: world
From: David_B._Hauer@bmug.org
Organization: BMUG, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:56:54 PST
Subject: Re: HELP ME: Quadra700 Modem Port Dead!!!!!!

I have successfully forced recalcitrant fax-modem software to relinquish my
modem port by simply going to the chooser, selecting a printer (e.g.
Imagewriter) and assigning it to the printer port. I don't know if this will
work in your case, but it's certainly worth a try. 

Please let me know whether you succeed.

dh   
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From: lreiter@jade.tufts.edu (Lowell B. Reiter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: new macs
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:54:30 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

Could somebody mail me info on what they read in mac week to the  effect what new macs are coming out andinfo on the for the Feb. release.....

It was once posted in comp.sys.mac.announce but I lost my copy.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Macintosh Power Requirements
From: gary@marshall.wvnet.edu (gary's news)
Date: 11 Dec 92 10:04:42 -0500
Organization: Marshall University

A professor here at the university wishes to purchase a Macintosh
computer here in the USA and sent it to a friend in Ghana, Africa.

Will this work as far as power requirements, plugs, etc. ????

Thanks,

Gary

-- 
Gary Weis
Marshall University
Prichard Hall
Computer Center
Huntington, WV 25755-5320

Bitnet   address is GARY@MARSHALL
Internet address is GARY@MARSHALL.WVNET.EDU

Business Phone Number (304) 696-3205
Fax Number (304) 696-3601
From: pcg@aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Any experiences with APS?
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:09:09 GMT
Reply-To: pcg@aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi)
Organization: Prifysgol Cymru, Aberystwyth

On 9 Dec 92 21:33:02 GMT, Eric.Choi@zeus.ieee.org (Eric Choi) said:

ch> From: chip@inter.interzone.ch (Marc Liyanage) Date: 6 Dec 92 05:35:00
ch> GMT Organization: Interzone Switzerland Message-ID:
ch> <01062012.kdhut1@inter.interzone.ch> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
ch> 
ch> Hi, I'm thinking about buying a few SCSI harddisks from APS. Since the
ch> drives will be shipped to Switzerland, I want to be sure that
ch> everything works out the way it's supposed to.

Choi> Everything with APS for I have been positive. Tech. support is
Choi> excellent.  Return policy is good. They may not be the cheapest,
Choi> but the quality is high.

Seconded; they are not the cheapest, but the distanc eis not great. I
have purchased from APS both from Italy and from the UK (disk drives,
controllers, tape drives), and they have always been OK. Indeed probably
my favourite mail order company.

Once they sent me the wrong controller, and they exchanged it
immediately (I paid the return postage; they told me to send it back by
post instead of courier to minimize my cost, and they sent the
replacement by courier instead). That's fair and good service to me.
--
Piercarlo Grandi, Dept of CS, PC/UW@Aberystwyth <pcg@aber.ac.uk>
  E l'italiano cantava, cantava. E le sue disperate invocazioni giunsero
  alle orecchie del suo divino protettore, il dio della barzelletta
From: lee5@husc8.harvard.edu (Patrick Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Performa 600 - not a cripple!
Date: 12 Dec 92 20:02:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc8.lee5.724190562


Well, as to the Performa being a cripple, the point is that it has a 32Mhz
Processor, (as you said) with a 16 Mhz external bus, which is a heck of a
bottleneck, if it wasn't for that, it would be a heck of alot faster and
would compete with higher end models. Thus Crippled.  The IIsi was also
crippled as I remember with a 20 Mhz processor so it wouldn't compete with
the IIci. See the discussion on 16Mhz Busses for an explanation.. Sigh.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: eburk@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Eli Burk)
Subject: printing japanese
Originator: eburk@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 06:50:11 GMT

where can I get a driver so it's possible to print
japanese on a hp deskxxx (forget the name - the mac
deskjet or deskwriter). are they available via ftp?

** email please **


-- 
Basic training in the techniques of cheerleading, including arm motions, cheer-
leading rountines, voice projection, double stunts, pyramid design, along with
a development of safety guidelines, crowd control and teamwork. [class at UNLV]
eburk@futon.sfsu.edu -or- eburk@sutro.sfsu.edu -or- eburk@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jnowak@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joe Nowak)
Subject: PB 160/180 Express Modem
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 17:24:58 GMT

I have confirmed on the net and from Global Village that their TelePort
external modem will not work with the PowerBook 160 and 180.  The culprit is
a change to the ADB port in these models.
 
I have some questions, which I am sure are FAQs, about the new Apple
PowerBook Express Modem for the 160 and 180.

1.  Does anyone have any idea when it is set to ship?  The local retailers
    in Ohio do not have it yet.
 
2.  I know that the Duo version of this modem and the PB 160/180 version
    are different. According to MacWeek, at least the Duo version uses a 
    Data pump technology and also offloads some of the modems tasks to the
    CPU.  The long and the short of this implementation being that when the
    modem is used in the background, it slows down foreground tasks.  My
    question is, is this offloading of tasks also the implementation on the 
    180 / 160 version.  Obviously it is preferable from a performance stand-
    point for the modem not to do this.

3.  Any other suggestions for internal modems for the PB 160?  I'd like send 
    and receive fax and speeds above 2400 for data would be nice.

Thanks.  Please respond by email or in this newsgroup.  --JN.
From: stump1+@pitt.edu (Robert E Mitchell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Where (AU/X)
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:29:43 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: stump1@unixd2.cis.pitt.edu


	This may or may not be a good place to ask, but can anyone tell
me where I can find a good newsgroup concerning AU/X?  I know that one
must exist, but I could not find it in my .newsrc.  Any help would be
greatly appreciated.


				Stump.
From: hhtra@usho72.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Buy 200MB HD from "Spin periperals". Any information?
Date: 11 Dec 92 17:28:57 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <1992Dec9.150137.19617@cucs5.cs.cuhk.hk>, skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant)) writes:
|> I want to order an 200MB internal HD via mail. I found the Dec,92 MacWorld
|> magazine has an advertisement from a company "Spin peripherals" which I
|> haven't seen before.
|> 
|> Do any body have experience with it?  Welcome any information.
|> 
|> Mr.Sai-Kee WONG
|> skwong@se.cuhk.hk

 Give APS a try.  I got my Maxtor 213MB HD from them and they
 are quoting prices $50 less than they advertised in MW or MU.
 That's by far the best price I've found anywhere.

 TRAVIS
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