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From: espenm@dhhalden.no (ESPEN MONNICH)
Subject: Re: Maiden+Testament
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:15:45 GMT

In article <espenm.2@dhhalden.no> espenm@dhhalden.no (ESPEN MONNICH) writes:

>In article <1992Sep1.104647.6632@ifi.uio.no> mortena@ifi.uio.no (Morten Amundsen) writes:



>> Yesterday (August 31st) Iron Maiden and Testament struck Oslo!!!!
>> Having never seen Testament live before, I was kind of blown away
>> by both sound and intensity... Holy Shit!!!
>> They were on for about 45-50 minutes and played something from all
>> their albums.

>> Iron Maiden seriouly kicked ass!!! I've never seen Maiden like this
>> before... I hated their concert for 'No Prayer For The Dying', but
>> this was unbelievable...
>> During 'The Trooper' Chuck Billy and Eric Peterson came on stage
>> fencing! :) After 'killing' Eric, Chuck started fencing with Bruce...
>> You can imagine how that went... :))

>> All in all a great concert!!!!!

>> By the way, Testament mentioned (I think) that this was their last show
>> on the Maiden tour... So who's taking over? It couldn't be WASP?
>> If it was I guess I would be kind of pissed if I were to see Maiden
>> the next few days!!!

>> Morten.


I do agree whith you. An exellent consert. I was there to, and i also took 
some very nice pictures (22). If someone are interested in any, please send 
me a mail at: espenm@dhhalden.no

I do also have pictures from the Iron Maiden and Anthrax-consert in Drammen
1990. 
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: S.O.D. CD and Twisted Sister Cassette For Sale
Keywords: S.O.D. (Anthrax), Twisted Sister
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 06:35:29 GMT

S.O.D. - Speak English or Die - CD $7 (selling one of the two I have)
Twisted Sister - Come Out and Play - Cassette $3 (selling because I have CD)

Excellent condition. Prices include shipping. Replies via e-mail.

Tom
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Witchfinder General
Organization: none
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 16:48:26 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.160820.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>In article <1992Aug26.174540.8607@news2.cis.umn.edu>, donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>> I have always liked these guys, and still consider them the best Sabbath clones
>> ever. Luckily, they were pretty good at it. 
>
>Sabbath clones, eh? I know that some people hear a resemblance, but just as
>many don't. I like them **much** better than Sabbath. 
>
>> Still, I have never owned one of   
>> their albums, since I have never found one for sale. 
>
>Yeah, they're not somebody you can just walk into a store and buy. I can offer
>suggestions on where to look, if anyone's interested.
>
>> I have a couple tunes
>> on compilation albums, but these aren't indicative of the stuff I have
>> taped off friends, and heard on the local community radio. 
>> Anybody got a complete discography, or even a partial?
>
>This is complete, as far as I've been able to determine:
>
>Burning a Sinner/Satan's Children   [single, 1981]
>Death Penalty                       [LP, 1982]
>Soviet Invasion/Rabies, RIP         [12" single, 1982]
>Friends of Hell                     [LP, 1983]
>Last Chance/Music                   [single, 1983]
>
>After that, they apparently just broke up, like a lot of the NWOBHM bands did. 
>The songs one finds on various compilation albums are apparently all taken from
>these...I guess they only did 18 songs total. A real disappointment--they may
>be my favorite band, and knowing they did so little...
>
>> At the very least, they should be added to the Doom Metal list....heh 
>> 					--Judex--
>
>Why? They're NWOBHM, not doom. We need another specialties list.
>
>--Semhaza
>
>Reality it is a lie
>The briefest dream before I die
>To comprehend the cosmic scheme
>See the truth behind my dream
>	--Witchfinder General, "Free Country"

I still think I heard of these guys around 4 years before these releases.
The one album I have seen appeared to be Mid-70's, and I thought they were
older. My memory is not the greatest on some things, but I have this nagging
feeling there is something earlier.
As for adding them to the Doom metal list, several tunes I have heard definately
fit the Doom metal style. Also, why can't a band be Doom metal, and still be
 from the NWOBHM? I don't recall that being an actual Style, but a name for a
wave of bands coming out in the early 80's. I love that stuff, but I never
realized that it was considered a "style".

					--Judex--

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: Metal, Shame on You!, DA
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 20:28:03 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Aug29.154910.10566@news2.cis.umn.edu>, donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
> Why do people spend so much computer time bashing on the bands discussed here.
> Sure, Deicide, Morbid Angel, Carcass, Napalm Death, Entombed, etc...
> are cool, but so is a lot of other Metal. Instead of trying to get all
> the "posers" to go somewhere else, why not just ignore their messages.
> Besides, Who are any of you to decide what is Metal?
> Having seen all of the above bands, usually more than once, I can attest
> to the fact that they are just as big a bunch of posers as everyone else.
> Don't you think that if Trey Azagthoth were truly serious, he would
> kill himself in a Satanic sacrifice? He sings about it.
> Personally, I find Satan is BORING. And most satanic bands are extremely
> unimaginative lyrically. 
> Flame away, but you will only prove my point...
> 
> 					--Judex--  

"I've got an idea! Instead of flaming posers, let's all flame peole who flame
posers instead!"

I know I am just as guilty of cluttering up the bandwidths with this post, but
posts complaining about flames are my pet peeve; they perform the exact same
function that they profess to loath. Please don't do it again, or I will be
forced to commit suicide in a Satanic sacrifice in a death ritual to kill
you :-)   Seriously, I would be a lot happier if posts were restricted to
factual information (and requests for) and opinions on the groups, rather than
on people in the groups. And just to prove it, here is an...

ObMetal: just read in Metal Maniacs that The Organization finished a demo tape
with the following songs:  "Been Nice Knowing You", "Bottom Dog", "20 Years"
and "Bringer of Bad Vibes".  Looks like they may be moving up in the world!

--Semhaza, Child of the Night
From: carll@cs.concordia.ca (LEDUC carl s)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Tesla
Date: 26 Aug 92 00:02:23 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec

walkera@cco.caltech.edu (Walker Aumann) writes:
>fafhrd@jessica.stanford.edu writes:
>>       Actually, I think the acoustic version of "Love Song" is much better
>>than the studio cut.  Especially with the 2+ min. guitar opening, which is
>>great!
>
>...even though they do bring out an electric guitar about halfway through.
>I'm also extremely unimpressed by the acoustic "Modern Day Cowboy", and
>"Paradise" loses too.  Sometimes, you just shouldn't mess with a good
>thing.

I agree that the studio takes are, IMO, much better to listen to.  Better
recording and multiple guitar tracks make for a fuller sound.  But I like
the FMAJ as well.  Songs like Before My Eyes and Modern Day Cowboy (or is
that The Surprise Song) come across with something new to offer rather than
constant guitar overdubbing.  Nice spanish touches too.

Don't get me wrong.  I still prefer the studio cuts better, and if I were to
recommend buying/listening/playing any Tesla for the first time, go for any of
the original recordings.  Actually, the best thing the FMAJ has to offer is
Jeff Keith's adlib ("Surprise!  Surprise!", "We don't know that song.").  Shows
they can have fun.  But I wish CHOM (Montreal) would stop playing only the
covers.  Almost wish that Tesla hadn't recorded them.

(This is getting longer than I had planned.)  I'll finish up saying that I
agree with Guitar For The Practicing Musician's review that said the album is
for the die-hard fans and that everyone should listen to the studio albums...
which could quite possibly make you a die-hard fan.

Be Seein' You

(The Prisoner)

Carl.
I've no-.sig left to say to you.    | carll@concour.cs.concordia.ca
Some .sigs are better left unsaid.  | I'm not paranoid, just stop following me
.Sig you later, alligator.          | around!
From: turner5427@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: CD's and Tapes 4sale!
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:22:24 GMT
Reply-To: turner5427@iscsvax.edu
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

I have the following CD's for sale.  They both in perfect (no scratches)
condition:

Agnostic Front - One Voice  --> $9 (includes shipping)
Megadeth - Countdown (NEW!) --> $9 (includes shipping)


I also have on tape:

Sepultura - Arise  --> $5 (includes shipping)
Blitzspeer - Saves --> $7 (includes shipping)

tt..
From: turner5427@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Alice Chains, Cornell, etc.
Date: 1 Sep 92 12:26:24 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

A-Chains (short for Alice In Chains) new album should definitely blow away
their last effort (which was great in the first place)!

I'm sure you've seen and heard the video for "Would" from the SINGLES movie
soundtrack, on MTV.  Now that's a cool song!  You can tell it still has some
elements from SAP, but also has a little of the edge from FACELIFT.  I suspect
that this is what most of the new album will sound like ... and I'll buy it the
first day!

Speaking of the SINGLES soundtrack ... anyone who likes the "Seattle scene"
(please forgive me, but I couldn't help it) HAS to get this CD!  It's got two
songs from Pearl Jam ("Drown" is the best of the two and is better than a lot
of songs on TEN), one from Smashing Pumpkins (good song!), one from Mother
Lovebone (cool, yeah, definitely cool, yeah), the A-Chains song (see above),
a Soundgarden song (probably one they recorded for BADMOTORFINGER that didn't
end up on the album; nothing special, but heavy riff), and a couple of good
songs from two bands I never heard of before.  But I saved the best for last
... Chris Cornell (Soundgarden and Temple of The Dog for you Deicide guys) has
a song he performed and produced himself - WOW!!!  Way fucking cool.  It's
just acoustic guitars and his VOICE.  Man, this guy can sing.

Yeah, I'm a serious Cornell fan ... but he does most of his better work outside
of Soundgarden.  On TEMPLE he's brilliant.  And just hearing this one solo song
on SINGLES, I think some record company should give this guy a contract and
fast!  If he gets to get different musicians surrounding him on different
songs, he would come out with an album that would just blow away everybody. 
Now, don't think I'm knocking Garden, 'cause I'm a serious Garden fan, but
mabey I'm just ready for a new album ...

tt..
"It's a hellava thing, killing a man ..."

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: jeh@redwood25.cray.com (Jeffrey E. Henning)
Subject: Re: Has anyone heard of .......
Originator: jeh@redwood25
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: 1 Sep 92 11:15:00 CDT


In article <1992Sep1.144727.6749@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, lrose@nestor.uucp (82370s-punskovsky) writes:
> 
> I was just wondering if anyone has heard of the bands "Accept" and
> "Bangler (sp?) Choir"?  I heard the "Eat the Heat" album from Accept
> and thought that it was great (of course it helps when you know the
> singer.  Any comments from anyone?
> 
> 
> Lin


I have heard of accept.  I haven't heard the "Eat the Heat" album,
but I do have "Balls to the Wall", "Metal Heart", and "Russian Roulette".
"Metal Heart" is my favorite.  These albums are from back when Udo
Dirkschneider was the lead singer.

                                                                       
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: walkera@cco.caltech.edu (Walker Aumann)
Subject: Re: Soon HE'LL be back...
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 13:26:29 GMT

jwj2@po.CWRU.Edu (Jermaster) writes:

>In article <92240.154023TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu> Sime <TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>>Sorry to cheer you all up, but Suaron won't be returning this semester.  I
>>believe he transferred or something (No joke this time, he's alive but no
>>longer at PSU.)

>Sure, Sime. First you kill him, and now you transfer him. :-)

>Actually, if he transferred to anyplace with Internet access, he'll probably
>find a way to get back on here. We'll have to see.....

Maybe we could explain to the administrator of his new site just how useless
the alt.* groups are so that he can't get at them.

>Later,
>-Jer
>--
>Jerry W. Jordak           You're like a dagger and stick me in the heart
>a.k.a. Jermaster          And taste the blood from my blade
>(jwj2@po.cwru.edu)        And when we sleep would you shelter me
>                          In your warm and darkened grave -- Lita Ford

Walker
"I'd kill myself for you.  I'd kill you for myself." - Pantera, "This Love"
From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Faith No More out of Tour!
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 23:59:41 EDT
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

hopkins@agora.rain.com (Scott Hopkins) writes:

> 	I just checked up on a local rock line to see if the Guns/Metallica
> concert was still on for Seattle.  They said it still goes as planned, yet
> Faith No More will no longer be on the bill!  Not that I care to much, but
> has anyone else heard this too.  And if so, is there going to be a opening
> act, and who?
 
Well, though it will not be officially announced, GNR are indeed the
opening act, and will play anywhere from 40 minutes to an hour. But they
are going on last, so that no one has to sit through another Axl temper
tantrum.
 
--Don

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: Witchfinder General
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 20:08:20 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Aug26.174540.8607@news2.cis.umn.edu>, donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
> I have always liked these guys, and still consider them the best Sabbath clones
> ever. Luckily, they were pretty good at it. 

Sabbath clones, eh? I know that some people hear a resemblance, but just as
many don't. I like them **much** better than Sabbath. 

> Still, I have never owned one of   
> their albums, since I have never found one for sale. 

Yeah, they're not somebody you can just walk into a store and buy. I can offer
suggestions on where to look, if anyone's interested.

> I have a couple tunes
> on compilation albums, but these aren't indicative of the stuff I have
> taped off friends, and heard on the local community radio. 
> Anybody got a complete discography, or even a partial?

This is complete, as far as I've been able to determine:

Burning a Sinner/Satan's Children   [single, 1981]
Death Penalty                       [LP, 1982]
Soviet Invasion/Rabies, RIP         [12" single, 1982]
Friends of Hell                     [LP, 1983]
Last Chance/Music                   [single, 1983]

After that, they apparently just broke up, like a lot of the NWOBHM bands did. 
The songs one finds on various compilation albums are apparently all taken from
these...I guess they only did 18 songs total. A real disappointment--they may
be my favorite band, and knowing they did so little...

> At the very least, they should be added to the Doom Metal list....heh 
> 					--Judex--

Why? They're NWOBHM, not doom. We need another specialties list.

--Semhaza

Reality it is a lie
The briefest dream before I die
To comprehend the cosmic scheme
See the truth behind my dream
	--Witchfinder General, "Free Country"
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: Witchfinder General
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 02:41:31 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Aug30.164826.17430@news2.cis.umn.edu>, donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:

[much deleted]

> I still think I heard of these guys around 4 years before these releases.
> The one album I have seen appeared to be Mid-70's, and I thought they were
> older. My memory is not the greatest on some things, but I have this nagging
> feeling there is something earlier.

Intriguing...I have never run into anything earlier myself, and I have been
informed that they only did the two albums...what do you mean "appeared to be
mid-70s"?

> As for adding them to the Doom metal list, several tunes I have heard definately
> fit the Doom metal style. Also, why can't a band be Doom metal, and still be
>  from the NWOBHM? I don't recall that being an actual Style, but a name for a
> wave of bands coming out in the early 80's. I love that stuff, but I never
> realized that it was considered a "style".
> 
> 					--Judex--

Yep, it's a style. I suppose you could stick 'em on the doom list if you want,
but I think it's somewhat tenuous (not being too familiar with doom metal in
general, this is of course only my opinion).

--Semhaza
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Monday, 24 Aug 1992 00:05:55 EDT
From: <32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: KISS: I Just Wanna, Domino
 <92231.10473332GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> <18404.2a97ef90@levels.unisa.edu.au>

In article <18404.2a97ef90@levels.unisa.edu.au>, 9062987h@levels.unisa.edu.au
says:
>
>In article <92231.10473332GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>,
>32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU writes:
>> In article <18314.2a911555@levels.unisa.edu.au>,
>9062987h@levels.unisa.edu.au
>> says:
>>>
>>>Another thing, I saw a poster of the band, and it looked as if Paul, and
>Eric
>>>had goaty beards aswell as Gene, what is the story here? Of course Bruce was
>>
>> Do the words band wagon mean anything to you??
>>
>>
>
>Kiss built the first fuckin' wheel on that wagon mate, and don't you fuckin'
>forget it!!
>
>
>P.S. I have got a goatie, and I've had it for ten years. I'm only 21!!
>     Does that make me a band wagon jumper?
>
>

No...that wuold make make you full of shit because I doubt
very muck that you've had a goatie since you were 11.

                        Doc


>
>"Put your hand in my pocket, grab onto my rocket."
>
>A.J. Slazenger.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Looking for info on Fates Warning
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:36:50 GMT

In article <MIKSMA3.92Aug25204948@vipunen.hut.fi> miksma3@vipunen.hut.fi (Mikko S M{kel{) writes:
>
>donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>> groening@sdsc.edu writes:
>>> Basically, Fates Warning sucks now.  Of course this is just an opinion.
>>> They used to be great but then they had a lead singer change a couple of
>>> albums ago and have really lamed out.
>
>   Could someone list titles to look for? I've only heard the latest and
> it is indeed disappointing.
>
>> Sorry to hear that you feel this way. I think their early stuff,
>> particularly "Night On Brocken", is very derivative of Iron Maiden.
>
>   This is not what I'm looking for. Is any of the earlier stuff seriously
> more progressive than the latest (whose name I just can't seem to remember)?
>
>   More than that, is the latest the only one with direct-to-board guitars,
> really clinical and cold, and sampled or synthesized drum sounds? I really
> hated how the 'quick' feel of the production work distracted my attention
> from the music. It somehow sounds like they have chosen not to bother with
> the hassles of miking a guitar amp & the drums since the guitars are so
> technical-sounding and the drums are very obviously just triggered. I have
> no complaint with triggering as long as it's done so tastefully as not
> to stand out, particularly in this style of music, but obviously I think
> heavy metal records lack something very essential if the acoustic sounds
> of the drum kit are not used.
>
>   BTW, anyone else who hates the rubber bass drum sound on Metallica's
> Justice?
>
>miksma3@vipunen.hut.fi

Have to disagree on the drumming. Having seen Fates live several times,
I can testify to the fact that their Drummer sounds the same live or in
the studio. I also don't find "Parallels" cold in the slightest.
However, to answer your questions, Try these albums:

The Specter Within
Awaken The Guardian
<Both with original vocalist John Arch>

No Exit
Perfect Symmetry
<Both with New vocallist Ray Alder. They got a new drummer for "Perfect  
Symmetry" and started getting into the Mondo-production thing. I love it, 
however.>


BTW-I hate the bass in general on And Justice For All. Very bland, and almost
invisible.<IMHO>

					--Judex--

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