HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jcarroll@ferris.cray.com
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: stopping the plague
Date: 6 Oct 92 04:56:22 GMT
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Originator: jcarroll@ferris


In article <1992Oct5.135655.22104@Princeton.EDU>, greg@phoenix (greg Nowak) writes:
> In article <1992Sep30.155659.5183@walter.cray.com>, jcarroll@ferris (Jeff Carroll) writes:
> }
> 
> }>}>   ANY fucking around with people's right to vote, no matter how
> }>}>   innocent-seeming and playful, is hideous. Don't sell out your values
> }>}>   to win the battle but lose the war.
> 
> 
> }Please take this to email. There is nothing bizarre or funny about
> }either bigotry or more-openminded-than-thou dick size wars.
> 
> 
> Oh really? Where were you, Mr. Summertime Patriot, when it was the
> Republicans whose right to vote was being joked about?

Right where I am now, bored as hell.
 
> Most people here seem to think it's funny to joke about impeding
> Republicans from exercizing their voting rights, but unfunny to make
> the same joke about women/Blacks/gays whoever. That attitude strikes
> me as about as "liberal" as K*nt's. To me, it stops being funny when
> you joke about taking away people's right to vote, just as people seem
> to stop finding Carasso's jokes funny when he makes them at the
> expense of certain ethnic groups. 

All right. If my Republican credentials measure up, will you shut up?
Since I reached voting age in 1978, I have voted for two Republican
presidents. I subscribed to National Review for at least five years.
I voted for two Republican governors of Indiana, and against a Democratic
governor of Washington. I have voted for J. Danforth Quayle four times.
I voted a straight Republican ticket in 1984.

I haven't noticed that *anyone's* right to vote has been threatened, lately.
I have a short attention span and an irritable sense of humor, and
irradiation of Saddam Hussein's gonads wouldn't amuse me.

I didn't think that this thread was funny in the first place, and it sure
as hell isn't funny now. So take your flag-waving out the back door, and
don't let it hit you in the ass.
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From: cpl1@kimbark.uchicago.edu (M. d'Nereverri)
Subject: hair confessions two
Reply-To: cpl1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: The Lunatic Fringe
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 06:26:14 GMT


i've always found it vaguely disappointing that
"hey, babe, wanna run your fingers through my hair?"
is such a lousy pickup line.


M.
has thought of few better
From: al037@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dave Polewka)
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: The Varieties of Religious Experience
Date: 3 Oct 1992 18:06:40 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: al037@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dave Polewka)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, zgilbert@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Zvi Gilbert) says:
                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>I have found my niche.  The path that will show me to the One True Light.
>Soon, yea, soon, I shall know the Truth.
>--Zvi

 zgilbert@titan.ucc.umass.edu -- anagram (@=r)
**********************************************
   Bizarre tit, cunt, ass: cum-glued!!
**********************************************

...odiously, heinously carasso!



-- 
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/ hpdmd48:talk.bizarre / kschnitz@encore.com (Kevin Schnitzius) /  2:16 pm  Sep 22, 1992 /
>I am a TV addict.  Instead of sleeping, I stayed up and 
>watched "Three's Company."  
>
>Worse, I enjoyed it.
>
>"But, Ja-a-a-a-a-a-ack"
>--
>mr asynchronous                                   kschnitzius@encore.com
>----------

	"Three's Company" is a quality show. It's true to life, the plots
	are always first rate, the acting is nothing short of
	professional, and of course, you never know how the
	episodes are going to end! T.V. the way it was meant to be.
	Indeed.

	-Dick Jones
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From: mfc1493@tamuts.tamu.edu (Michael Frank Caver)
Subject: Re: toast
Organization: ~/lib/organization
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 06:24:29 GMT

>> >>> >>Cerveza! Uno mas, por favor.
>> >>> >Que?
>> >>> Beer! One more, please.
>> >>Queer!  No more fleas!
>> >Here! No more of these!
>> There! One more of his!
>Where?  Where's my daughter Liz?
Hair! Hair is all there is!

Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
From: aaron@loki (Aaron Humphrey)
Subject: Re: DATE CALCS (mon - sun)
Reply-To: aaron@space.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 03:34:57 GMT

D. J. McCarthy (dmccart@gomez.intel.com) wrote:
: Dave Polewka (al037@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) wrote:
: \ >####################################################################
: \ >   mmddyy                       .   backwards
: \ >             2                  .           
: \ >   092892 = 2 x 3 x 7741        .   298290 = 2 x 3 x 5 x 61 x 163 
: > >...............................mon..................................
: / >   ddmmyy                       .   backwards
: / >             5                  .             
: / >   280992 = 2 x 3 x 2927        .   299082 = 2 x 3 x 7 x 7121 
: / >####################################################################
: [....etc....]
: 
: 
: 	Were there even remotely interesting at one time?  I forgot.

Only when one of the backwards numbers was prime.  Or, as Dave would put it,
PRIME!!!  You can tell it makes his day.  Probably has to clean off his
keyboard after he finds one of those.

(Waiting for him to anagram my address now..."aaron@loki", @=q)

--
---Alfvaen(Canadian SF Quasi-Activist)
"And when the thunder breaks, it breaks for you and me."
   ---This Mortal Coil
Current Album--Kate Bush:The Kick Inside
Current Read--Nicole Luiken:Running On Instinct
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From: ajd@itl.itd.umich.edu (Arthur Delano)
Subject: Re: AjD's custom weather
Organization: finchhaus
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:23:18 GMT

In article <kQ1-dZC@engin.umich.edu> ldoering@engin.umich.edu (Laurence Doering) writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.210121.13414@terminator.cc.umich.edu> ajd@itl.itd.umich.edu (Arthur Delano) writes:
>>  Here is what I would like to have you ask / envision:  Cool, 
>>crisply clear nights in the low to middle 30s centered over Ann 
>>Arbor, Michigan.
>>  If response to this request is overwhelming, it is possible that a 
>>microclimate could be established over the old west side neighborhood 
>>in Ann Arbor with cold nights, and a warmer, clear upper 40s located 
>>over the downtown and North U. areas so that ljd can wear a tank top 
>
>Sounds good, but what'll happen along the boundary between the two
>air masses?  You're talking about a temperature differential of 10 or
>15 degrees, which, combined with moisture from the Huron River, could
>lead to stationary frontal conditions (low stratus clouds and rain) 
>on a line running roughly down Main Street, or maybe Ashley. 
>
>This could be inconvenient if, for example, I decide to walk from the
>Island Drive Apartments to the Old West Side to spend the evening with
>my grilfriend on Thursday.

A more creative climate could be created:  A warm zone blanketing
most of ann arbor, with a cold-air inversion layer roughly between
south seventh and eberwhite woods.

Alternatively, somebody could buy an air conditioner for my bedroom.

AjD
From: fj05+@andrew.cmu.edu (Faisal Nameer Jawdat)
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: RACIST
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:43:04 GMT
Organization: Sophomore, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

So if I say that I hate Israel I'm not a racist.

I'm not going to tell you all to take it to alt.stupid
I'm just going to hack my news client so it belives alt.stupid is
talk.bizarre and vice versa

I wonder what will happed when I start replying to posts...
From: vail@tegra.com (Johnathan Vail)
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Favourite song
Date: 1 Oct 92 20:10:11 GMT
Followup-To: talk.bizarre
Organization: Tegra-Varityper, Inc. Billerica, MA



In article <7607@skye.ed.ac.uk> ken@aiai.ed.ac.uk (Ken Johnson) writes:

   Current favourite song: `If I Ever Get Out Of Here' by Paul McCartney. 

He paid you to say that, didn't he?



jv <- current fave song: SLACK MOTHERFUCKER by Superchunk
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From: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: Richard Pryor: Makin' A Comeback?
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center and Reptile Farm
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:24:18 GMT

Lord Snooty Says:
>Dave says:
>> he got parkinson's from smoking so much crack, so he's jammed an Ethernet
>>   cable up his ass and is blowing rdp packets out his nose?
>
>I nominate this for Most Mildly Loathsome Sentence Of The Week.

Yes, but it would admittedly explain some of the router problems we're
having out here.
--scott
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
From: jperry@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (John Perry)
Subject: Better candidates for president
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 16:33:19 GMT


   I've composed a list of people who would be better presidential
candidates than any of the three front runners. Feel free to add to
it.


Jerry Lewis (The French think he's a genius.  Dean Martin for VP)

Wilt Chamberlain (more affairs than Bush and Clinton combined)

Magic Johnson (although we may have to elect someone else in a couple of years)

Zippy the Pinhead (sure he's a fictional character, but who else would promise
		   Ding Dongs and taco sauce for everybody?)

Paul Reubens (He hasn't been nearly as buzy since he lost his Pee Wee gig)

Clarence Thomas  (He lies at least as well as George does)

Murphy Brown (better her than Dan Quayle anyway)

me (OK, so I'm not 35, but I'd be happy to live in the White House and
    suck down champagne and caviar with dignitaries for a living.  `Sides,
    I wouldn't blow sushi on the prime minister of Japan)

Rodney King (hey, the guy's gotta do SOMETHING to get the cops off his back)

Sigourney Weaver (but in this case, they'd have to put something in the 
		  Constitution that the President gets to appear in her 
		  underwear.  But, the way she handled them Aliens, just 
		    think how she'd do with the Iraqis)

Rodney Dangerfield (Hey! give the man some respect for once)


				John
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			       Zippy the Pinhead (for president)
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From: PJF4081@CC.UTAH.EDU (big daddy hate box)
Subject: Re: unfinished business
Followup-To: talk.bizarre,misc.jobs.offered
Summary: give me percodan
Keywords: shoot me me up
Reply-To: big daddy hate box
Organization: xenophobes of utah
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 22:28:25 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <BvB3xq.ww@encore.com> dlwilson@fenix.encore.com writes:

% hot."  "I can't afford to go to grad school."  "I don't know anyone."  "I
% don't like this."  And so on.  After three weeks of this, she left.  Four
% months later I got a card explaining.  "It wasn't any of the stuff I said it
% was.  It was your drug use."  What?  Bong hits a couple times when I had
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^           ^^^^^^^^^       
% friends over?  I never replied to her mail.  That was nearly two years ago.
% We haven't spoken since.
% 
% I leave for DC tomorrow.  Hmmm.
% 
% Dave


	jesus! k*nt is right, drugs do ruin lives. i guess i should quit now.
	oops, sorry, momentary lapse of reason.

	PJF--->Biochem. grad student.
					React with this!
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From: mbur@nyx.cs.du.edu (MAC)
Subject: Re: stopping the plague
Summary: Stupid fucking Morons.
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: Nowak gets a 12Ghz blast. 
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 23:32:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.144449.20717@Princeton.EDU> greg@phoenix (greg Nowak) writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.173245.14155@nmsu.edu>, sabbott@nmsu (SDA) writes:
>
>}>   ANY fucking around with people's right to vote, no matter how
>}>   innocent-seeming and playful, is hideous. Don't sell out your values
>}>   to win the battle but lose the war.
>
>}You are absolutely right.  
>}That is why I gave up my afternoon to register people to vote.
>}I made no jokes about their political party then, simply posted
>}this rather lame joke to t.b. 
>}Excuse me this HIDEOUS JOKE.  I understand, now, how truly wrong I
>}was.  
>
>"Each Jew who rgistered to vote got a blast ..."
>"Each Black who registered to vote got a blast..."


Each "Black"?  Surly you mean African American don't you Greg?
You are not a bigot Greg.  You just talk like one, right?

Surly you are not comparing African Americans as a group of people
to Republicans, are you?  Come now, you are smarter than that.



>The erosion of civil liberties begins with jokes and passes to
>actions. 

The erosion of civil liberties begins with Rock and Roll and passes to
actions.
The erosion of civil liberties begins with Rap and passes to
actions.
The erosion of civil liberties begins with Picking your nose and passes to
actions.


Yes Greg, it is crystal-fucking-clear now.  Thanks.  Perhaps you should
post this to alt.non.sequitur.


>Alan Dershowitz understands this well. It appears that Voltaire and

Dershowitz is a Putz


>Franklin did too, but they only seem to get quoted any more by people
>interested in defending the access of THEIR OWN opinions to the
>marketplace of ideas. A shame, that. 
>


I say Bravo to Sean, he took time out to register people to vote.  Have
you done this Greg?  I didn't think so.  Why don't you just "shut the fuck
up geek".


M - Put him at the top of the list for multiple 12Ghz blasts.
From: cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com (C J Silverio)
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: eno joins dire straits
Date: 30 Sep 1992 22:48:31 GMT
Organization: SGI TechPubs
Reply-To: cj@sgi.com (C J Silverio)
NNTP-Posting-Host: eno.wpd.sgi.com

---
hamlet@ravel.udel.edu (Chris Adams) writes:
|and begins to play an oblique stratocaster.


AAAAAAAUUUUUUGHHHHHH!
Mind meltdown.
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From: vail@tegra.com (Johnathan Vail)
Subject: Re: morph my body
Organization: Tegra-Varityper, Inc. Billerica, MA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:53:50 GMT



In article <1aig8kINNlo9@fido.asd.sgi.com> cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com (C J Silverio) writes:

   ---
   Well, I was going to post an AIFC file with the "move/morph
   my body" sample in it.  But I just noticed that at 44.1 kHz
   sampling rate, it's kinda big.  I tried resampling to 11.025 kHz
   but my hardware won't play it back.  And ugh.  The file is
   bigger.  This is strange.

   I am no audio hacker.

   Fuck.  The uuencoded file is just over 3000 lines long.
   There will be no t.b trend in audio files the way there
   was with little gifs.

   ---

Maybe a tiny "READ MY LIPS" would suffice?


(or maybe a carasso "read my lisp")


-- 
"If God had wanted us to be concerned for the plight of the
 toads, he would have made them cute and furry. -- Dave Barry
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|     | Johnathan Vail     vail@tegra.com     (508) 663-7435
From: kimy@cs.umd.edu (Yong-Mi Kim)
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: New Game: Find the Thematic Connection
Summary: I am not a bimbo
Date: 6 Oct 92 01:38:17 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <1992Oct5.233840.15368@wdl.loral.com> bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com writes:
>they can spend the length of a feature film reinforcing the idea
>that the only thing that makes a man worth more than his weight in sea
>water is a fine set of pecs and cool hair.
>At least I don't have trouble believing it was Day-Louis's real hair.

We have a winner!  It's the hair!
(I'm not too sure about the pecs, because I don't recall if
Val Kilmer ever took his shirt off in _Willow_.  Probably should have)

>J H Woodyatt (a.k.a. Dr. Strychnine)
>Space Systems/Loral
>Has the hair.

So like can I touch it?

---------------
As for our other contestants:
the reason "men in tight pants" was not a correct answer was that
Daniel Day-Lewis (aka "Hawkeye") was *not* wearing tight pants,
but loincloth and leatherstockings.  Far, far better than pants,
I must say, especially when Daniel was running around and his shirt
would flap about and I got a glimpse of his nice firm buns.  Oh, and I
think Daniel should have kept his shirt off during the entire movie.
(Anyway I hope this explanation makes St. Terri feel a little less
negative)

(So Dr. Strychnine, it's pecs plus cool hair plus tight buns.)

(St. Terri: Daniel has orders of magnitude more of bodacious
babeness than Keanu.  That's why _A Room with a View_ is one of
the best movies ever: it has both Daniel Day-Lewis and Julian
Sands in it, and we get to see Julian nekkid.)



yong-mi
now if I can only figure out how to get Daniel away from that French
hussy he's been shacking up with
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From: mneeley@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark Neeley)
Subject: Re: cheap amusements
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Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 22:09:38 GMT

In article <1a7ssuINNe4@overload.lbl.gov> inspecti@carnival.lbl.gov () writes:
>
>find the really good swivel chair
>put it a within arm's reach of desk
>push off with arm, tuck legs in 
>see how many revolutions you can accomplish before physics take their toll
>
>inspecti 47
>

I like to close my eyes and try to guess which part of the 
office I'm facing when I come to a stop.

	Mark (also gets you nice and dizzy)

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From: chaos@netcom.com (chaos)
Subject: Re: brief story fragment
Organization: tyrninog and the heisenberg vortex
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 05:35:05 GMT

In article <1a0jncINNdi8@agate.berkeley.edu> curtis@cs.berkeley.edu (Curtis Yarvin) writes:
>One warm May night, Mr. Shikawa told a condor story.  Mr.
>Shikawa was the oldest man alive; he fished for condors and
>told old stories.  He never caught any condors and his stories
>were no good, but people looked up to him because of his age.
>He sat by the fire, with his heels in his lap, and talked.

one cold October night, Mr. Dolan told a shaggy dog story...


chaos

obvious followup #1
From: reese@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Aiieee!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 1 Oct 92 11:59:42 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <717783956.F00005@therose.pdx.com>, Phil.Hodges@f601.n105.z1.therose.pdx.com (Phil Hodges) writes:
> 
>   I love it! Utter and complete nonsense! A whole national message base
> devoted to absolute gibberish! This is the spice of life...! I only
> got about 30 messages in my mail, so I don't have a real good idea of
> what exactly is talked about here. Maybe this belongs in something like
> alt.philosophy...?
> 
>   Traditional ideas of reality are delusions which we spend substantial
> parts of our daily lives shoring up, even at the considerable risk of
> trying to force facts to fit our definition of reality, instead of vice
> versa. And the most dangerous delusion of all is that there is only one
> reality. What there are, in fact, are many different versions of reality,
> some of which are contradictory, but all of which are the results of
> communication and not reflections of eternal, objective truths.
> 
>   Unfortunately, it's 3 am and I'm too tired at present to get creative!
> I'll be back..!
> 

Please only post again when you haven't something interesting to
say. Thank you.

Jason

> ___
>  X SLMR 2.1a X Fact: There are n+1 zucchinis in the universe.
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From: cliftonr@netcom.com (Pope Clifton)
Subject: Re: DEEP THOU
Organization: t.b, t.p.d, & a.d
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:15:07 GMT

[deleted]
: 
  My mind just cracked.  Good night.


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From: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: jws & "new light"
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center and Reptile Farm
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:15:46 GMT

In article <1afscvINNnkd@fido.asd.sgi.com> cj@sgi.com (C J Silverio) writes:
> (They also think organ transplants 
>change the personality of the recipient, but I digress.)

I can attest to this being absolutely true.  Ever since I got my girlfriend
a replacement organ, she's been on edge all the time.  I think it's all the
Bach fugues that causes it.
--scott

(Actually, it's got a history too... it was apparently used on a road tour
 by the Holy Modal Rounders in the late 60's, and put in storage for
 twenty years.  When I got it, it was in lousy condition, but it's now
 operational (although the reverb unit is noiser than it should be).)
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
From: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: train ride
Keywords: fun fun
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center and Reptile Farm
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 00:22:46 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.194040.2412@fcom.cc.utah.edu> big daddy hate box writes:
>well soon i will embark on what seems to be a fun adventure. a couple of 
>friends and i are going to jump on a freight train to wyoming. 

Once, when I was a student, I lived near a train switchyard.  It wasn't a
bad place at all.  One night, a friend of mine and I did various things so
as to get into that kind of state where anything that is suggested sounds
like a good idea.  "Let's hop a train," he said, and it seemed like a good
idea.  Or maybe it was I who suggested it.  I'm not sure.

I had a bunch of friends who lived out west in various places, and we 
figured that if we headed west from Atlanta we'd probably wind up in at
least one of them.  So, we found a train that was headed westbound very
slowly, and climbed up the side.  We figured that an empty coal car would
be the best bet, since it would provide ample opportunity to hide.

The bad news is that empty coal cars aren't completely empty.  They have
enough coal in them so that when the train is up to 45 mph. or so, it
comes smashing into your face and into your body at high speed, stinging
your skin, and blackening your body even underneath several layers of
clothes.  Hanging off the side of the car was even worse than sitting w
down inside it.

Eventually, the train slowed down again to the point that we were able
to jump off again.  We stumbled down a dirt road that ran near the 
tracks, and must have walked a couple of hours until we came to a diner.
At this point, the sun was beginning to rise, and we walked into the
place absolutely black.  Coal dust rose from our clothes when we moved
and every eye in the place was on us.  We asked to use the phone, and
the waitress scowled, and pointed to a payphone.

I used my calling card to call a friend (now a major net.personality of
sorts).  We told him the details, but we were unable to give him one
important detail.  "Where are we?" I asked the waitress.  "In Holcombe!"
she replied, and I got her to spell it.  I spelled it out over the phone,
and got back the reply "I'm looking on the map and I don't see any
city by that name in Georgia."  "What state are we in?" I asked, and got
back an even worse scowl as the waitress replied "Tennessee, of course!"
But he did come and get us.  I don't know why.
--scott