From: torban@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Torban Bennett)
Subject: Re: NO MORE *&#*$(^*& FEMALE BIMBO ADS!!!!!!!!
Organization: Murdoch University
Date: 13 Nov 92 07:04:36 GMT

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douddy@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
>>>	I agree with the first part of your suggestion for effective change
>>>concerning women's rights, people's rights.. anyone's rights.
>>>	But *HANDGUNS* available for everyone???

I agree, this has to be insanity!

>> 	Well, we already know criminals are armed with guns, knifes, baseball
>> bats, chains, ect. We know for a fact that banning handguns does NOT reduce
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Hmmm, sounds like an -MB- post ;-)
This argument is lame - Russia, has nuclear weapons, so we may as well let
EVERYONE have nuclear weapons!  Yeah, right!

>> 	I know most people don't know this, but Seattle Washington let
>> the honest people get carry permits and crime dropped 30%. But the
>> media NEVER reported it, and HCI buried it. I guess the facts hurt.

Oh wait, this must have good.  
customer:   "I'd like to by a gun please" 
shop owner:   "Are you an honest person?" 
customer:   "Yes"  
shop owner:   "Ok, here you go.  Have a nice day." 
 
>> 
>> 	Also, answer this question, How does a 5'4" woman defend herself
>> against a 6'2" attacker that is 2X or more heavier than she is?

Well if he's got a gun (and lets face it, if everyone is allowed to own a
gun, why not. If I was going to commit a crime, I'd consider a gun a 
valuble tool of the trade)  It comes down to an attacker and a defender,
both armed with guns.  The attacker is always going to have the advantage.
(unless all the 'honest' people keep the gun in their hands at all times,
and move around like members of the SAS.

Picture this, you're walking along the street on night, colt .45 in your
handbag/hand.  Perp with a gun, shoots you in the back, walks off with your
money.

You're asleep in your house, UZI tucked in beside you.  Perp, stealthily
enters house, shoots you while you sleep.  Departs with valuables.

You're walking along the street again, UZI slung over your shoulder,
perp drives past, plugs you full of holes, then hoons off laughing.

You may have a gun, but if an equally armed attacker does too, you'll always
be at a disadvantage!

I don't know how you can solve the problem, but as I've said before, letting
everyone have guns is just INSANE.   Here in Australia, the sporting
shooters association is the closest thing we have to the national rifle club
in the US.  They have been opposing stronger gun controls here, and have
been meeting with the NRC to talk tactics.  We've heard how the NHC was
lobbying for legalised high-tech plastic guns, that wont show on metal
detectors, fully automatic machine guns, and flak-vest piercing bullets.
Man, this sounds like just what all law abiding citizens, need!
    (I would like to insert a NOT! in at this point, but I've decided
     against it ;-) 
>> 
>> James Dusek
>	Try Mace.  Simple, effective, small as a tampon, and potent.  Every
>woman should be able to carry it... but here in Wisconsin posession (or maybe
>use?) is punishable by a $10,000 dollar fine.  I don't believe shooting someone
>to death, in self defence, is punishable by a similar fine.
>	I suppose that little kids would get into it and spray each other, 
>causing intense pain and a rash that took a few days to clear up.
>Maybe that's the rational.  Not like childern never shoot each other. 

Again, a valid point. (Do I detect a hint of sarcasm:)

>Dustan Doud
>University of Wisconsin, Eau Claire
>Douddy@cnsvax.uwec.edu
>(secretly, I hate myself for responding to NO-BIMBO-ADDS)

Getting back to original topic (You remember don't you?)  I've seen a couple
of these bimbo ad's for game software, and frankly it makes me wonder are
these games any good? or are the advertisers hoping a scantly dressed woman
is going to sell them?  (Certainly, I can't deny the ad's do catch my eye,
which is obviously part of the advertising philosphy)
  While I'm not really offended, I think the ad's are just pathetic.  It's
more likely to disuade me, than anything else.
(and it *is* a bit of a sad reflection on society)

Anyway, another large non-amiga post draws slowly to its end.  A lurker
satisfied that his lust for fame (or is it flame) sated for the moment,
he returns contented to his life of anonimity.

Oh, before I go...and ObAdvocacy: While it must have been hacked to death
already, (I musta missed it) I have no problem with the 1200, BUT why oh why
an 020 instead of an 030!!!! (I mean the 030 is cheaper in numbers, C=
already have machines using it, and its faster.) Feel free to email.

Torban Bennett   Net lurker who's cage was recently rattled.
Murdoch Uni,
Western Australia.  (Flame me, not them)