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From: john@jlc.mv.com (John Leslie)
Subject: Internet connection
Organization: John Leslie Consulting, Milford NH
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 04:30:48 GMT

Ian.Howard@f109.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Ian Howard) writes:
>
>As you may or may not be aware I have been trying to set-up a channel on
>K12 for the discussion of the entire K12 network and its ideas.
>
>Channel 5 (K12.CH5) will be open for the discussion of the following
>topics from 11-01-93 (11th January) :
>
> * Discussion of the technical aspects of K12 including how to set up a
>   K12 system a school.  Including debate on security problems,
>   censorship, and anything else relavent.

   A potentially large number of people have a chance to read k12 
postings on the Internet.  A few of us post replies -- most of us, I
think, are trying to be polite and not butt in where we're not wanted.

   It is far from clear how much of the Fidonet-based K12 community
actually receives these postings from Internet.  I've always suspected
that many people simply don't receive them.  I'd be interested in
learning more about the propagation of messages posted from Internet.

   We do have an interest -- not exactly an overwhelming interest, alas,
but an interest nonetheless -- in some kind of connectivity for our
Middle School in Milford, New Hampshire.  Internet connectivity is
available by a local call.  Is this an appropriate way to connect?

John Leslie <john@jlc.mv.com>
From: jim@apsicc.aps.edu (frost...)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: MAGNET Schools
Date: 12 Jan 1993 17:22 MST
Organization: Albuquerque Public Schools - Career Enrichment Center
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: apsicc.aps.edu
Keywords: MAGNET Schools
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    


Hello all,
  I am attempting to obtain as much information or opinions as possible
regarding peoples thoughts on the value of MAGNET schools. Schools that
offer either highly specialized courses or courses which are for one
reason or another, such as limited enrollment at a single school but
high enrollment at a centralized district site, valuable in that context
for providing and filling an overall need within a school district.
  I have run a random in district survey of opinions and I would like
to contrast that with opinions of educators around the country. This
particular MAGNET school services the needs of eleven high schools and
provides courses for not only college bound students but also vocational
and technical training courses. As examples, everything from computer
related courses (data-entry training through business to advanced place-
ment), building trades (general construction through cabinet making),
word-processing (court reporting through advanced word-processing tech-
niques), advanced classical and modern languages (Latin to Hebrew to
Japanese to Spanish to Russian, etc.),  pre-med, A.P. calculus/fortran,
A.P. physics, A.P. chemistry, aviation science, astronomy, an LPN course
which has a high school student qualified for their Licensed Practical
Nursing Certificate upon H.S. graduation, nursing assistant and homebound
aide program, etc.
  This is an important topic for us as we would like to make the program
even better and we need input from all sources to do so. 
  Unfortunately we need to present this Friday; January 15 so any opinions
you could send my way would be appreciated and forwarded on to the appro-
priate people as soon as they are received. If you could EMail to me at
me address below it would help to save a great deal of time but I will
also followup on the conferences.
			Thank you very much for your help in advance,
							Jim Skeba
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   We are rapidly ascending through prosperity to poverty...  Twain
                    Internet:    jim@apsicc.aps.edu
       Albuquerque Public Schools - Instructional System Manager 
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From: Jan.Stevens@p3.f505.n770.z3.fidonet.org (Jan Stevens)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: pen pals - exchange of information 5/6 class
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 11:09:19 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:770/505.3 - Southern Vortex, Dunedin

Sam, Happy New Year ! Thanks for your reply . We can handle whatever you ever way you want to set up our communication .
We have 4 more weeks of holidays and the weather is the pits! Hope you are seeing more sun than us .Catch you later once you are sussed .


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From: Patrick.Galliez@p1000.f511.n41.z32.fidonet.org (Patrick Galliez)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Thanks
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 09:44:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 32:41/511.1000

Hello Joe

 >
 > It is nice to see K12 expanding globally.  I teach Industrial Technology
 > in the small community of Lincoln City Oregon USA.  I often wonder about
 > how my subject specialty it taught in other countries, especially in
 > Europe.

First of all, thank you very much for answering my first message.
I'm glad to see that the system is working well now since we have had some difficulties to install the program.
I must confess that I know very little about Industrial Technology and the way
it is taught here in Belgium.
  >
 > I look forward to watching conversations ranging from chit-chat to
 > philosophy from your part of the world.

At the moment we have an American girl here at school and guess where she comes from ?  ... Yes!!  Oregon. I'll tell her I have a contact over there so she may be interested in writing to you ( just to remember her homeland!)
 >
 > Welcome aboard and Merry Christmas.
 >
Happy new year from Belgium

Patrick,

 > --- Opus-CBCS 1.13
 >  * Origin: Lincoln County School District BBS (1:105/732.0)


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From: Peter.Macinnis@p0.f508.n711.z3.fidonet.org (Peter Macinnis)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Armed Forces
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 16:20:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:711/508.0 - The Bay, Neutral Bay NSW

;rep:111,4220

SL>Well, I've never been in the armed forces, but both of my parents were,
SL>and, if memory serves, their pronunciation agrees with yours.

SL>My mother was a British Army Nurse and I got the feeling that she treated
SL>the whole thing as a big joke.  Her one piece of advice to me (should I
SL>ever find myself in a uniform) was:

SL>NEVER volunteer for ANYTHING!  :-)
Yes, well I was not a real lieutenant, being commissioned only in the
Cadet Corps as it was then constituted, but many of the ossifers took
themselves very seriously indeed, while my mate (a PE instructor) and I
went in to subvert the system.  We decided that their route marches
would become cross-country runs when he took them, and nature rambles
when I took them, but found instead that we were required to march,
salute, and snap to attention.

I avoided saluting by various legal subterfuges until the end of the
year, when at the end of two weeks in the bush, the kids were all loaded
into a bus, and I was stuck with a half-colonel, and no way of ducking a
salute.  So I threw a snappy one, and from the window above, one of my
kids shouted to the rest of the bus: "Christ!  Mac's saluted him!".

It was then apparent that I owuld never be a successful sham, so I grew
a beard and resigned.  Actually, I asked for a dishonourable discharge,
but they wouldn't give me one, even if I did have two left feet.

It was fun, provided you did not take yourself seriously in the
ossifer's mess: I had a car so I used to drive into town, by two dozen
cans, and drink with the car-less medical students who staffed the
Regimental Aid Post.

Still, we did some great pioneering work, and it WAS fun when the kids
were doing a lantern stalk: this involved moving silently across broken
terrain at night.  I'm rather good at that, and I used to wait until the
end of an encounter, and when the swearing died down, I would suggest
mildly that such language tended to draw enemy attention.  But you
wouldn't want to take yourself seriously . . .

One other funny incident: I am a good target shooter with a rifle (I
will shoot at anything which does not bleed), but the kids assumed I was
inept at that as well. So on our first range day, two of the Cadet
Under-officers decided independently to boost my score a bit.  All in
all, with thirty rounds each over 200 yards, alternately sitting,
kneeling and prone, we just about shredded the target.  After that, they
left me to score by myself . . .

peter




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From: Roland.Gesthuizen@f369.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Roland Gesthuizen)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Int. History Exchange
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 17:35:06 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/369 - City Limits BBS, Boronia Vic

HS>In a message of <02 Dec 92  14:41:32>, Roland Gesthuizen
HS>(3:633/155.3) writes:

 RG>               Do you teach History or Social Studies?
 RG>

HS>You appear to have the outline for a project here.  It seems
HS>very vague to me.
HS>If you hope to run a sucessful project you need to be very
HS>specific as to the  type of information you want exchanged.  I
HS>think the moderator/teacher has to  develope a time table with
HS>the students and help modify it if necessary. 

Thanks Helen.. I take your point and I will ask Ramsey to be more specific about his project. I took circulating his message about for him as a favour but I know that he has some good concrete and practical ideas that we probably should have just suggested.

Regards from Ausralia and best wishes for 1993

Roland Gesthuizen


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From: Lorna.Kropp@f6.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Lorna Kropp)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: GLOBAL VILLAGE NEWS CONTINUES
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 22:16:21 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/6 - Macs BBS, Spokane WA

Global Village News will continue! We have been granted an extension in the
Project Channel 11. Please have students continue to post local and school
news. Each post should be addressed to All or to Lorna Kropp. Please include a 
brief Headline, the news story and a By-line (your name and school, city) When 
looking for stories to report:
1. choose items which are interesting to you. 
2.  look for events or happenings which are unique to your area
3. report on issues which you feel strongly about
4. report on people in your school or town who make a difference
 
While Geoff Busch or I will try to answer each post, other participants are
encouraged to write directly to the reporter with questions of clarification
or comments. New participants are welcome, teachers please leave a message in
this area or Teacher Chat with your name, school and grade level. We will list 
the participants each month for your information. The format will be open
ended with no specific timeline. Please have students follow the suggestions
listed above. 

Here's to a lively exchange of news from around the globe!!
Lorna Kropp, Discovery School, Spokane, WA


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From: Jim.Lagerquist@f80.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Lagerquist)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: RE: business/school partnerships
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 20:34:15 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/80 - Auburn Ed-Net, Auburn WA

Leslie - My school district is interested in pursuing business/education partnerships.  I'm not sure how to proceed.  Do you have some suggestions  as to where to start?


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From: randall@proteus.qc.ca (Randall Reid)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: International Baccalaureate
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:31:19 GMT
Reply-To: randall@proteus.qc.ca (Randall Reid)
Organization: The Proteus Group, Montreal Canada

bmiles@rvgs.vak12ed.edu (Billy Miles) writes:

> My name is Billy Miles and I am a teacher in the IB program. My
> subject area involves the Theory of Knowledge course. This
> course involves an interdisciplinary view of knowledge and
> arriving at conclusions by making strong use of logic and
> reason.
> 
> I would like very much to correspond with other teachers
> involved in the IB program, or teachers who are also involved
> in interdisciplinary teaching.

Hello Bill,

There are 2 Internet mailing lists for the IB program, one for students,
the other for teachers.  I am the sysop of proteus.qc.ca which hosts
the teachers list.

To subscribe to the IB Mailing List for teachers, send a message
to 'listserv@proteus.qc.ca' with the following line of text in the
message:

SUBSCRIBE IB Your Name

You may also post a message to the list by sending it to ib@proteus.qc.ca

The list is managed by Dr. Steve Hreha, an IB teacher at Champlain
Regional College located in Quebec Canada.

Hope to hear from you (an any other people interested in the IB program)
soon.

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From: Peter.Macinnis@p0.f508.n711.z3.fidonet.org (Peter Macinnis)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Skin cancers and such
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 21:03:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:711/508.0 - The Bay, Neutral Bay NSW

;rep:111,4220
Just before Christmas, I wrote of a strange patch on my back:

PM>Probably the mark is no more than an allergy patch or an insect bite,
PM>but tomorrow I will go and have a medical check, and if necessary, a
PM>biopsy.  We may belong to this land, but our Celtic inheritance hangs
PM>over us, and Australia has the highest incidence of skin cancer in the
PM>world: we take no chances any more.  There is no sense of worry, and it
PM>won't make it a gloomy Christmas, but we will play safe.  We have to.
PM>One good thing: if it is serious, we found it early, and we will
PM>photograph it so we can use the photos in the museum, where we are
PM>setting up an ozone display to begin next month.  Who knows, we may
PM>even put me on display!  (No, not as a "savage"!)

Well, I have good news and bad news.  The bad news is we won't be
displaying it, the good news is that it was more or less harmless.  All
the same, the quack burned it off with dry ice and ethanol:
excruciatingly painful, all the while pattering on about experiences he
had had with other removals.  In one case, the surgeon kept digging
deeper into the patient's face, sending bits away to pathology for
checking.  When they sent back to say the last sample was brain, he
stopped.  Cheerful chap, my doctor, with such a reassuring chair-side
manner.

Why tell all this?  Well, we're first, down here in the south, but the
way the ozone layer is going, people in the rest of the world need to
wake up quickly as well. I've had close to half a century of exposure,
and I am a medium risk.  I could have been a low risk, if we had
realised sooner what we were doing to ourselves.

Melanoma is the real worry, because that metastatises, says my quack: it
goes on little colonising expeditions, all over the body.  The other
skin cancers can be knocked off if they are caught in time.  Australia
now, New Zealand too, probably, but how about all you Aspen snow
bunnies? Did you stop to think what risks you are taking?

Are you wearing SPF 15 (if you don't know what that is you NEED to ask!)
in the Cascades?  Will you wear a hat when you walk to the top of Rough
Tor?  Will you pressure your politicians to take the ozone layer
seriously?  Will you stop using CFCs?

Yours from down under a big hat

peter

 # SLMR 2.1 # We need a new ecological Nietzsche.



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From: Peter.Macinnis@p0.f508.n711.z3.fidonet.org (Peter Macinnis)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Australian Tales
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 19:33:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:711/508.0 - The Bay, Neutral Bay NSW

;rep:111,4220
LK>Thanks for the Crooked Mick stories! The kids laughed. They thought that Mic
LK>sounded like a combination of Paul Bunyan and John Henry. As we progress wit
LK>this project, I want the students to create a database of tales: setting,
LK>characters, story elements, moral, etc. so that they can begin to look at
LK>patterns and compare tales from various parts of the world. The other
LK>extension is to locate local tales and we would like to share those. We will
LK>look for your son's Aborigne tales. These kids are Grade 4 also.
LK>Happy Holidays!
G'day, Lorna.  Almost missed this, as the system is so literal that it
missed the similarity of McInnis (not me) and Macinnis (me and all my
family).  It handles MACINNIS as well, but no other variations, and if I
did not search for references to "Austral", I would not have seen it.
There is another message for you in this package, I think.

peter

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From: Roger.Smith@f734.n153.z1.fidonet.org (Roger Smith)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: VOCATIONAL ASSESSMENT
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 20:28:16 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:153/734 - ED-NET 9600, Vancouver BC

Say, does anyone have any good suggestionsfor the assessment of special 
needs youth.  We are looking for good non-reading assessment devices such as 
computer interest and aptitude testing, etc.  We currently use Valpar 
products including MESA and System 2000.  Our main focus is to arrange work 
experience for special needs students age 15 and up, and a vocational 
assessment is often a good way to start the planning.  We have the Becker 
Reading Free pictures assessment but would like some other options. Thanks, 
Roger Smith

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From: khanna@rvgs.vak12ed.edu (Kevin Hanna)
Subject: Re: mneumonics
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Roanoke)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 12:42:29 GMT

Melissa N. Matusevich (mmatusev@radford.vak12ed.edu ) writes:
> s.vak12ed.edu>
> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 23:43:25 GMT
> Lines: 27
> 
> My daughters submit these two:
> 
> King Phillip Came Over From Germany Singing.
> 
> [kingdom, phyllum, class, order, family, genus species]
> 
> 
> Many violinists enjoy munching jelly sandwiches under noisy
> pianos. [or now "under pianos noisily"]
> 
> [Mercury, Venus, Earth . . .]
> 
> 
> Hungry Henry likes blue-berries.  Carol needs one flat nail.
> 
> [Hydrogen, helium, lithium, . . .]

Here's one for a few sig figs of pi... Count the letters in the
words.

How I wish I could calculate pi!


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From: David.Mctamaney@f32.n272.z1.fidonet.org (David Mctamaney)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: HS pen pal
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 10:30:15 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:272/32 - Acorn I BBS, Marlboro NY

Please bear with a novice for a minute.  I am using Christmas Vacation
from high school here in Newburgh, New York to come up with a list of
proposals for my high school computer club.  Do any of you from those
wonderful exotic places that I have seen here this morning have a pen
pal program for high school students?  We have much to offer, but are
new at this end of the technology, having only recently gotten the
administration to let our club buy a modem and contact life beyond out
high school.  Happy New Year to all.  Hope someone will care to respond.



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From: Diane.Charrett@p0.f51.n140.z1.fidonet.org (Diane Charrett)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Folk stories and legends
Date: Fri,  1 Jan 93 23:20:14 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:140/51.0 - SaskTel P.A.C.M.I.D, Prince Albert Sask

I am a music teacher from Saskatchewan, Canada.  One area I use a lot in my music classes is that of story telling.  Generally what I do is take a story or legend from a different part of the world and adapt it to make it into a musical, participatory situation where the children take part in the telling of the story.  They do this through various combinations of movement, singing, and instrumental performance.
 
I would appreciate hearing any tales or legends from different lands and cultures so that I may expand the resources that I have.  It is truly a wonderful thing for the children to experience, they seldom are involved in story telling, especially in the younger grades.  This helps them become active, rather than passive listeners.
 
I especially like to use stories because I can often tie them in with the language arts units that the classroom teachers are doing with the students.  Interelatedness between the homeroom and the music room instantly develops, and we can even involve the librarian to help with the storytelling in the weekly library time.
 
Thank-you in advance for sharing your stories with me.
 
Diane
 



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From: obrienj@cc.gatech.edu (James F. O'Brien)
Subject: Question about teaching postion.
Keywords: teacher, job, Spanish
Organization: College of Computing, Georgia Tech
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 02:17:38 GMT


Hello, 

  I have a friend who will be finishing her Degree in Education (Spanish Lang,
w/ minor in English).  She is interested in getting a teaching job in the
Atlanta area.

  If you have an information, about jobs, or other related opportunities,
could you please forward them to me? (obrienj@cc.gatech.edu)

  Thank you very much,


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From: Rob.Reilly@f223.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Rob Reilly)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: A Problem
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 13:13:22 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/223 - SchoolHouse BBS, Lanesboro MA

Hello All,
 
The powers-that-be at calstate.edu have closed Frank Topping's account there.  That means he has no access to the Internet from Calstate.Edu.
 
-Rob-


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From: Helen.Sternheim@f109.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Helen Sternheim)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: COMPUTER LABS
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 09:09:10 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/109 - Pioneer Valley PCUG, Amherst MA

In a message of <05 Jan 93 09:29:11>, Diana Ackley (1:280/333) writes:

 DA>Hello, my name is Diana Ackley. I am the math/computer resource teacher
 DA>at Northeast Global Studies Middle Magnet School in Kansas City,
 DA>Missouri.  Can anyone offer any ideas or suggestions on this situation?
 DA>At present all our computers are used in lab situations, CCC [ILS] 
 DA>using

I copied your message into the k12_comp_lit and k12_tech_ed conferences.   
Hopefully you will get some suggestions there. 



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