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From: seetam@hub.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Uday Bhaskar Sarma)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: ............  IMPORTANT public announcement (mail redirected) ................
Date: 12 Nov 1992 11:42:57 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

To all on sci...

Got this from someone ..........
Someone (else) missing -- wife and family are anxious...
reply to me or to  vasan @ baton rouge...


+*> From vasan@max.ee.lsu.edu Thu Nov 12 12:25:26 1992
+*> 
+*> Subject: Pls. post on S.c.I. --+*> MISSING
+*> Hi, this is Vasan from Baton Rouge , Louisiana state Univ.
+*> I sometimes read s.c.i. on bbs but do not yet have posting privileges.
+*> A friend of mine at LSU sent me the following message ; could u pls.
+*> take time to post it on to S.C.I ?  Sorry for bothering you and thanking
+*> u for the effort.
+*> 
+*> vasan@max.ee.lsu.edu
+*> ................................Included Message.............................
+*> 
+*>         #     #   ###    #####   #####    ###   #     #  #####
+*>         ##   ##    #    #     # #     #    #    ##    # #     #
+*>         # # # #    #    #       #          #    # #   # #
+*>         #  #  #    #     #####   #####     #    #  #  # #  ####
+*>         #     #    #          #       #    #    #   # # #     #
+*>         #     #    #    #     # #     #    #    #    ## #     #
+*>         #     #   ###    #####   #####    ###   #     #  #####
+*> 
+*> Folks,
+*> 	An Indian student has been missing from MANMOUTH college, NEW JERSEY
+*> since sep 26 '92.  Information is requested about the where abouts of the same.
+*> 
+*> NAME:	KRISHNA KUMAR.R.MENON
+*> ALIAS:	MOHAN
+*> AGE: 	28/29yrs
+*> PLACE:	BOMBAY
+*> B.S.:	BANGALORE
+*> 
+*> 	If the above contacts you for any reason, please contact 
+*> 
+*> 	Dr.Krishnan @ (908)752-5664
+*> 		      (908)826-7178
+*> 
+*> 	or
+*> 
+*> 	Sai Pinnepalli @ (504)343-6234
+*> 			sai@max.ee.lsu.edu
+*> 
+*> Police have been informed about this matter. This noticed is placed on the net
+*> as his parents and wife have been making anxious calls, enquiring about him.
+*> 
+*> 
+*> 
+*> sai
+*> (sai@max.ee.lsu.edu)
+*> 



Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)
From: mathew@remus.rutgers.edu (mathew)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: malayalee association
Date: 8 Nov 92 21:53:20 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


we are thinking about starting up a malayalee students association at
Rutgers.  we would like some advice from others who have formed
similar associations at other universities. we would be grateful for
any advice, suggestions, etc....

also, anyone interested in joining or helping out, please feel free to
send me mail.

-Thanks

  Sajee
From: roo.caltech.edu!sathi (Narayana Sateesh Pillai)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: The Psychology of an Acker
Date: 7 Nov 1992 02:06:21 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: roo.caltech.edu
Originator: sathi@roo

In article <1992Nov5.040657.6317@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>  
mchundat@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mathai Chundattu) writes:
> My question is this: Given the
> anonymity associated with net-writing, is it true that any person would
> argue for only the side he supports in real life? Or will there be
> people who play game on ackers by arguing and fighting for something
> which he won't be following in real life?
> 
> The question is open to any ackers. Please be aware that you will be
> exposing a great extent of your psyche by answering questions like this.
> If you are afraid, please do not answer.

Hah, hah, hah, hah! Did you ever doubt whether my arguments were genuine?
Seems like someone actually wonders about Maya!!!

I have a question for you. Suppose everybody says that he/she was 
arguing from the bottom of his/her heart. Would you believe it?

I can't write about others. But I may have been arguing genuinely. 
Before you believe this, here's a modified quote from Richard Bach's
"Illusions": Everything I write may be wrong.

TATA!
Sateesh
-- 
		| Sateesh Pillai			
		| 128-95, Caltech
who am I?	| Pasadena, CA 91125
		| (818) 564-1225
From: milhouse.caltech.edu!sathi (Narayana Sateesh Pillai)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: comments -  Response to comments?
Date: 12 Nov 1992 05:10:01 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: milhouse.caltech.edu
Originator: sathi@milhouse

The main goal of advertising is to sell a product. The main goal of  
selling a product is to make money. The question is: how far are 
companies willing to go to capture people's attention?
	Obviously, the advertisement cited did capture everyone's 
attention. So you must admit that it did achieve it's goal. But how
far can you go for the sake of money? Why didn't the women who helped
to make the add make a fuss about it? Didn't they think it was wrong?
So you have some people who think it's all right to do anything for the
sake of money (prostitution is a good example). As long as there are 
people like that, you can't do anything. 
	The problem (which I define to be potrayal of provocative
sensory input patterns), is one of ethics. The goal is to make money.
Where do you draw the line? Can you draw the line?

	Ethics has a fussy boundary. In this era of increasing knowledge,
and increasing yearning for knowledge, one may even forget about ethics!
Example: Is it wrong for other species of animals to be killed so that
homo sapiens may survive? On the one hand you have search for knowledge,
on the other, a selfish fight for survival.

	In regards to the advertisement cited, you have a company trying
to sell itself, and on the other hand, you have people who may be
incited to violence. Which is more important? If the company doesn't 
sell, then people may lose jobs. Unemployemnet increases. This leads to 
frustration of the masses => violent riots etc. 
	If the people are incited to violence, the gun companies will
be happy if they buy guns. This means more jobs for people who work in
gun related fields. This may also mean more practice for lawyers. And that
may generate ancillary jobs like that of clerical posts etc. The city
governments may even hire more police men. The city of LA is going to do 
just that. So I conclude that more violence will increase employment also!
	But in one case, you have mob violence, which is uncontrollable,
resulting from massive unemployment. On the other hand, a few handful of
individuals (not the entire population) will be incited to violence.
	Based on this analysis, I conclude that society will profit more
if such advertisements are allowed.

TATA!
Sateesh
-- 
		| Sateesh Pillai			
		| 128-95, Caltech
who am I?	| Pasadena, CA 91125
		| (818) 564-1225
From: rajeshkr@usc.edu (Rajesh Krishnan)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: ***Dance Performance***
Date: 10 Nov 1992 17:44:21 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu


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                      APARNA SCHOOL OF DANCE

                   With live music accompaniment by

                   Ramya Harishankar (nattuvangam)
                   Sunanda Chandramouli (vocal)
                   Sudhakar Subramanyam (mridamgam)
                   Krishnan Kutty (violin)
                   Veena Kinhal (veena)

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FOUNDATION, A NON PROFIT ORGANIZATION.



Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: ganesh@mega.cs.umn.edu (M. Ganesh)
Subject: Re: News clip with an inappropriate heading
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:30:44 GMT

In article <BxnsxG.Cso.1@cs.cmu.edu> pjn+@cs.cmu.edu (P J Narayanan) writes:
>In article <BxMstx.Mrz@cs.psu.edu> tripunit@algol.cs.psu.edu (Mahesh V Tripunitara) writes:
>>Kerala School Succumbs to Muslim Fundamentalists
>>
>>Clearly, allowing Muslim students to wear caps is the right thing to do.
>>Could we, for instance, insist that a Sikh student not wear a turban?
>
>	I agree. Individual freedom should come above school
>"discipline", especially in matters of dress.
>

	Netter may remember that some time back there was a demand by some
Muslim students that they be allowed to sing Koranic verses instead of the
national anthem in school. Karunakaran the CM, allowed this, (I think).

I would like to hear about your opinions about this. Is this a case of 
individual freedom too? Please post.
ganesh.

Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: kailath@prema.aix.kingston.ibm.com ()
Subject: Re: Dating Vs peNNukANal revisited
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 03:26:28 GMT
Expires: References: <BxKMt2.Dwy.1@cs.cmu.edu>
Reply_to: kailath@prema.aix.kingston.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Corp

In article <BxKMt2.Dwy.1@cs.cmu.edu> pjn+@cs.cmu.edu (P J Narayanan) writes:
>	This is precisely because they know of a rather painless and
>effortless way of getting married -- through PKs/arranged marriages.
>To quote a friend of mine: (regarding Indians in the US getting married
>during a 3 week trip home) "Indians spend less time in selecting a wife
>than in selecting a car." Given that it is an important decision, we all
>should be spending some thought to it early on in life.
 I am getting into a topic of no concern to me here. But I
just wanted to point out an important diffrence in the two
systems that are discussed here. In the PK system you are
letting somebody else to do  all the work for you including
making this important decision. This may be acceptable only 
for somebody who grew in a society like that of kerala. But
most others will find this totally un acceptable. This
includes most second generation Indians. I think there is a 
great number of them who reads this news group silently.
>
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Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: jacobt@nynexst.com (Jacob Thomas)
Subject: Re: The Psychology of an Acker
Reply-To: jacobt@nynexst.com
Organization: NYNEX Science & Technology, Inc
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 15:23:02 GMT

In article 1dv18pINN86c@gap.caltech.edu, piglet.caltech.edu!sathi (Narayana Sateesh Pillai) writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.175555.21156@julian.uwo.ca> jose@csd.uwo.ca (Jose  
>Thekkumthala) writes:
>> Be that as it may, I still maintain my original opinion about you: You  
>have a 
>> beard and you do not wear glasses nor do you wear a saree.
>
>	I think Mathai is a male around 23 or 24 years of age. Has a 
>childish countenance, with baby black eyes, and short dark hair 
>definitely not blond!!). Clean shaven. Wears a kaile at night.
>I agree he does not wear glasses. 
>
>TATA!
>Sateesh
>-- 
>		| Sateesh Pillai			
>		| 128-95, Caltech
>who am I?	| Pasadena, CA 91125
>		| (818) 564-1225



We are not starting a 'guess what Mathai looks like' contest, are we? Will pictures with and without kappada meeSa, thaadi, etc., follow?

Jacob
-----
From: piglet.caltech.edu!sathi (Narayana Sateesh Pillai)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: The Psychology of an Acker
Date: 13 Nov 1992 01:43:53 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: piglet.caltech.edu
Keywords: acker psychology
Originator: sathi@piglet

In article <1992Nov12.175555.21156@julian.uwo.ca> jose@csd.uwo.ca (Jose  
Thekkumthala) writes:
> Be that as it may, I still maintain my original opinion about you: You  
have a 
> beard and you do not wear glasses nor do you wear a saree.

	I think Mathai is a male around 23 or 24 years of age. Has a 
childish countenance, with baby black eyes, and short dark hair 
definitely not blond!!). Clean shaven. Wears a kaile at night.
I agree he does not wear glasses. 

TATA!
Sateesh
-- 
		| Sateesh Pillai			
		| 128-95, Caltech
who am I?	| Pasadena, CA 91125
		| (818) 564-1225
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: mchundat@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mathai Chundattu)
Subject: Re: Dating Vs peNNukANal revisited
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:30:35 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

In article <1992Nov12.032628.25795@watson.ibm.com> kailath@prema.aix.kingston.ibm.com () writes:
>In article <BxKMt2.Dwy.1@cs.cmu.edu> pjn+@cs.cmu.edu (P J Narayanan) writes:
>>	This is precisely because they know of a rather painless and
>>effortless way of getting married -- through PKs/arranged marriages.
>>To quote a friend of mine: (regarding Indians in the US getting married
>>during a 3 week trip home) "Indians spend less time in selecting a wife
>>than in selecting a car." Given that it is an important decision, we all
>>should be spending some thought to it early on in life.

> I am getting into a topic of no concern to me here. 

I didn't quite understand this statement. Does it mean that you don't
have or don't want to have a spouse?


>But I
>just wanted to point out an important diffrence in the two
>systems that are discussed here. In the PK system you are
>letting somebody else to do  all the work for you including
>making this important decision. This may be acceptable only 
>for somebody who grew in a society like that of kerala. But
>most others will find this totally un acceptable. This
>includes most second generation Indians. I think there is a 
>great number of them who reads this news group silently.

I don't understand this silence too!

>>
>-- 
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Dominic Kailath                         kailath@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com
>IBM KINGSTON                            uunet!ibmps2!aix!kgnaix11!kailath
>914 385 5539                            Tie line 695 - 5539


Mathai
--
From: IO81373@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Language
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:40:50 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

Could someone send me the phrase 'I Love You' in the language of
this group?  I have 76 languages so far, and if you
contribute you will receive a copy of the list.
Thanks.


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Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: mchundat@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mathai Chundattu)
Subject: Re: Saahithyam
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:51:26 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

In article <1992Nov5.232136.28960@nynexst.com> jacobt@nynexst.com writes:
>
>I had fun translating a stanza from a poem Jose Thekkumthala posted a while ago. Here is the result. All comments and suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks to Mathai for publishing the aksharamaala. 
>
>
>>   +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>   +                                           +         
>>   +           AN ODE TO DARKNESS              +
>>   +                                           +         
>>   +             A  poem  by                   +
>>   +                                           +
>>   +                Jose                       + 
>>   +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>   
>>   
>>   
>>  And Now For Something Completely Different...
>>  ------------------------------------------
>>  
>>  
>>  Oh Darkness, mistress of the mischievous night
>>  
>>  When wilt thou vanish bringing forth tomorrow
>>  
>>  Lit with a bubbling hope and a bright morning light
>>  
>>  And a smiling sun awake after a night-long slumber?
>>  
>
>
>                     iruLinOd~
>
>iruLE, yAminithan kusR~thi kAmuki nee
>
>maRannJu pOvatheppOL? aNayum putthan nALe
>
>thiLangum pulaRvetta kAnthiyil, pRatheekshakaL
>
>nurayum, chirithookiyuNarum dinakaran
>
>
>Jacob
>-----
>

It meant much more when read in malayalam. And it was poetic too.
Eagerly awaiting the other stanzas.

Mathai
-- 


Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: cs507025@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu
Subject: Re: nissabda 'acker'in~
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:38:06 GMT
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College

In article <1992Nov10.185648.1096@nynexst.com>, jacobt@nynexst.com (Jacob Thomas) writes:
|> 
|>            nissabda `acker'in~
|>            -------------------
|> 
|>       enthedO `acker'e kaiyyum ketti
|> 
|>       vaayichu maathramirunnaal pOraa
|> 
|>       enthoru kunthamaaNelum mathi
|> 
|>       `ack'il ezhuthi ozhukki vid~
|> 
|> 
|>       saayippin naattile `mallu' aaN~
|> 
|>       daahichu nOkkiyirikkayaaN~
|> 
|>       paayasam vENamennilla kEttO
|> 
|>       aayaasam koodaathe `post' cheyy~
|> 
|> 
|>       matthai, maikkEl~, jOs~, wOnko
|> 
|>       maathRam ezhuthi vittaal mathiyO
|> 
|>       otthu vannillenkil pEdikkEnda 
|>                                           
|>       vAyichu rasikkaan njangaLund~      O__/ ))
|>                                         /____    ))
|>                                jacob-> |            
|> Jacob                                 --            ))
|> -----                                |  |
|>                                     /  /                       a
                         nisasbda newsland           |  |         a
                                                     |  |    %    a
  (nissabda `acker'in~ suicide point)  =========      \  \        a 
                                         |              \  \      a  &
                                         |               - -      a
                                         |                |       h
                                         |                |    @  h
                                  (ex)nissabda mallu-->  /|\      h
                                         |              / 0 |     h
                                         |             |    |     h
                                         |                        .
                                         |                        .
                                         |                        .
                                   - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                                        - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                                     ACKland   - - - - - - - - - - - 
                                                 - - - - - 
                                                             vvvvv 
                                                              ^^^
                                                 (o)  (o)  njan<
                                                    ..        >>nee~
                                        sudha<<    vvvvv  
                                                   ^^^^^                                         
                                         >matthai
                                             >>maikkEl~    >jOs~         
                                                    
                                                  >>etc.!!    
      

         angane~ enteyum nissabda naalukal avassanichu!!!
From: pjn+@cs.cmu.edu (P J Narayanan)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: malayaaLam aksharamaala
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:14:26 GMT
Followup-To: alt.culture.kerala
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <BxFMD7.55A@sun3.vlsi.uwaterloo.ca> arun@sun14.vlsi.uwaterloo.ca (Arun Achyuthan) writes:
>Transliteration of Indian language script to Latin script is a very difficult
>job, any suggested method will have its own pros and cons. What is 
>important is to agree on one system, which most of us find convenient.
>That way I have no problem in going along with the method suggested
>by Mathai, but it has many drawbacks:
>
>In article <1992Nov6.182858.168@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> mchundat@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mathai Chundattu) writes:
>>Mathai
>>-- 
>Arun

I think any transliteration scheme should have the following qualities:

   1.	It should represent Malayalam and other Indian language letters
	unambiguously for someone familiar with the source language.
	Being unambiguous to a computer program is an additional merit.

   2.	According to the conventions of the target language (in this case,
	English), the transliterated word should read as closely to how it
	is pronounced in the source language, for the benefit of someone
	who either doesn't know the source language or doesn't know the
	transliteration conventions.

In my opinion, the aesthetic point about the use of many capital letters
is only a minor point. About being close to how the letters are commonly
written in Malayalam: It is desirable, but obviously not possible due
to the obvious ambiguity involved with the Ta-vargam and the ta-vargam.

Using "t" for tta as in katt (wind), fails the first test.

Using csa and tsa and dTa, IMHO, fails the second test.

Using "ca" for "cerupp" (slippers) fails the second test also.

Overall, I think I like the scheme proposed by Arun. I might suggest that
the cha-vargam be written as "cha chha ja .." etc.

Arun, can you post the whole aksharamala as it is written in Malayalam?

PJN

-- 
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Pittsburgh, PA 15213
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Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: jose@csd.uwo.ca (Jose Thekkumthala)
Subject: Re: The Psychology of an Acker
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:55:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.040657.6317@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> mchundat@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mathai Chundattu) writes:

> My question is this: Given the
>anonymity associated with net-writing, is it true that any person would
>argue for only the side he supports in real life? Or will there be
>people who play game on ackers by arguing and fighting for something
>which he won't be following in real life?
>

You got it, Mathai! There is a great amount of camouflaging that takes place in ack.
Who knows, some of the ackers might be ackresses and vice versa. Situation is that bad!!

There are a lot of impersonators here in the ackland.

Be that as it may, I still maintain my original opinion about you: You have a 
beard and you do not wear glasses nor do you wear a saree.

>
>Mathai
>-- 
>
>

BIRLA!
Jose (from my ivory basement)
-- 
                |                          
                | 
who am I?       | An Impersonator
                |
From: sphilip@cs.ulowell.edu (Sheela B. Philip)
Subject: Re: mallu claims to fame
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:15:48 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.050612.20794@cs.uow.edu.au> g9133666@cs.uow.edu.au (Moothedath Padmaraj) writes:
>
>Padmaraj
>				***************************************
>				"I still believe in a place called home".
								   ^^^^
								   HOPE
That is HOPE as is Hope, ARKANSAS

>
>							Bill Clinton.
>				***************************************
>  


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