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From: rose@cecily.UUCP (Rose M. Delckum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Friday, Oct. 9th
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 02:04:37 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The New Alaska Riviera
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In article <921012103249.45d@VAX.CSUN.EDU>, Gail Said Johnson writes:

> My very favorite tuber (the potato! ... er, I mean Sally) writes:
> 
> 
> >So what is this "Somebody to Love" from Jefferson Airplane as Kim's
> >theme song? I suppose the "somebody to love" refers to Kim's desire
> >to be loved, but excuse me, wasn't she loved by Shane? Didn't Shane
> >help her with her past, helped deal with it? I mean he knew she was
> >a prostitute from the very beginning, and helped her go after Madam
> >X, Linda Anderson her Madam; he knew from the beginning she was
> >molested by her Uncle--he was the first person she confided. And why
> >wasn't she at the Ick's going away party? 


     I causgt the end of this episode and when J Airplane started playing
I just thought ?????.  That particular song was just so inappropriate
and out of place it was jarring.  Kim isn't a rock n'roll type of
character...this sort of music belongs to people like Emilio and Carrie.
And the lyrics had no bearing on the storyline.  This story isn't about
Kim trying to find someone to love, it's about Kim having a split personality.
If they're gonna use rock, they should use something like, say, Lindsey
Buckingham's "Go Insane" or Billy Joel's "Under Pressure" or something
that has relevance.
> 
> Who can figure out what they're trying to do with that story at all?  I keep 
> assuming that there's something about Phillip we don't know about that has 
> caused her personality conflict.  She must feel constrained/controlled by him 
> or something.  But who knows.

     I like Philip.  But he deserves better than Kim :-)  (Sorry Tim!)
> 
> As for going to the party, she doesn't seem to go to anything (I think Joanna 
> mentioned this) ... and hardly anybody ever misses her.  Weird.

     Yeah, talk about Miss Anti-social.

> 
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     Rosita
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From: jt3j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jennifer Allyson Turner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: OLTL: Raven Point
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:42:01 GMT
Organization: Sophomore, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I'm getting really sick of this whole Raven Point thing.  There are so
many inconsistencies.

For instance:  Max swam all the way from the shore to the island.  Along
the way, he shed his shirt and his shoes, and we're supposed to believe
that he kept the PRISON KEYS?  I know IOAS, but please, this was so
UNREAL.  Was he also having visions of Suede?  ("Suede, Suede, where are
you?  Sueeeeeede!?!"  Max closes his eyes and envisions Suede handcuffed
to a Roman column?)

And then, today, after days and days of the storm, we finally see some
rain.  But does Max have sense enough to come in out of the rain? 
Nooooooo!  As soon as he unlocks Suede's handcuffs, he goes out again
and tries to *commune* with Luna in the rain.  Couldn't he have done it
just as well inside, or even under the shade of the porch roof?

And when Luna was at the dock, how could she possibly think that
whatever she threw into the water would make Vern think she had jumped? 
Whatever it was that she threw, it wasn't heavy enough to sound like a
baby falling into the water, let alone an average-sized adult woman.

And then there's the matter of Luna's shirt.  When she tore her shirt,
why didn't the piece of cloth go flying away in the wind?  

-Jenn
From: shh@creare.com (Sheila Hopkins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC:TAN: The Tad Lotto 921013
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:03:57 GMT
Reply-To: shh@spock.creare.com (Sheila Hopkins)
Organization: Creare Inc., Hanover, NH

In article <1992Oct14.165453.26259@athena.mit.edu> zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu (Carolyn Zaccaria) writes:
>In article <Bw2LBK.G4M@ddsw1.mcs.com> starkid@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Lance Sanders) writes:
>
>>   As reported in my 10/09/92 Update, MEK is considering a return to AMC. A 
>>lot of bets have been posted in the past couple of weeks, so I'm 
>>resurrecting the Tad Lotto.
>
>Well, I will venture a guess but I won't believe it til I see it.
>
I'm hoping it'll be around May 25th.  I'm expecting and that's my due date.  
Then I'll have 12 weeks to enjoy Tad in "real time".

Personally, I'd rather have a frozen margarita (or two) than a beer.  I'd also
like to see Tad show up tomorrow. 


				Sheila
				shh@creare.com
From: rick@sadtler.com (Rick Morris)
Subject: Re: DOOL:  TAN:  What do Nelson Broat and Milli Vanilli have in common?
Keywords: cheater,Capt'n Kirk
Organization: Sadtler Research Laboratories
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:22:06 GMT

Sore loser Tim wrote:
>       ...             I've been totally puzzled on how he has been
>getting so close because I know just how clueless he is when it comes
>to good, err, I mean modern music.  But after a long interrogation he
>finally confessed to me last night.  That sneak has been ftp'ing [or
>something similar] to other sites and grepping my lyrics against 
>lyric files!!!   Can you top that????   But the gig is up.
>

Well well!  Personally, I have to give ol' Nelson a Kudos on that
one!  I am impressed by his creativity and ingenouity in the face
of some difficult situations.  Reminicent of Kirk's being the only
Academy graduate to have solved the puzzle (by cheating?), Nelson
has found a way to beat the game in a fair fight.  So I vote that
Nelson get to keep his title, and if the rules change, then how
about a "from now on" on the end?

PS.  Ummmm... None of this is sour grapes since I have yet to have
     heard of any of the groups in Tim's Quiz yet.....    8-)

-Rick.
-- 
Rick Morris                            Email:  rick@sadtler.com
Sadtler Research Labs, Philadelphia   -But I speak for myself
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From: lnorman@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Leslie Anne Norman)
Subject: Re: ATWT: Montega question
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University - HCF
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:14:00 GMT

In article <9210141420.AA04119@oscar.bellcore.com>, semele@OSCAR.BELLCORE.COM (Semele Halkedis) writes...
> 
>P.S. Unrelated question - why does Sighva think JohnnyD singlehandedly ruined
>her relationship with her Mama?  Does she think Enema would have taken
>it that much better coming from Ivabeenlyintoyouformonths ?
> 
>>This whole week that has bothered me also. I guess because I know the
>>whole story, I guess I am more sympathetic to Iva and Julie. I just
don't think that it's Iva or anybody's else fault that Holden is missing
except for Holden's. He was the country bumpkin that went to the city and
invited someone to mug him. And when they find out about his memory loss...
that will be interesting also. But then he could have fallen off a tractor
and done the same thing. I don't think the secret was a good idea either
but I don't think that Iva should shoulder all the blame.

I think Emma would have taken it slightly better coming from Iva. But
I don't the aftermath would be any different. And Iva is wrong about
blaming John also. I think that this story will last for years.

Leslie Norman
Dept. of Political Science
The Johns Hopkins University

Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: GC.AVW@forsythe.stanford.edu (RAGIN CAJUN)
Subject: Re: AMC: Godzilla Speaks Update (c) 921009
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 09:46:18 GMT

In article <41210314@hpcvra.cv.hp.com>,
daveo@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Dave Ochs) writes:

HORRIBLE veil stuff deleted
>
>I couldn't quite place what the veil reminded me of, but I think you have
>hit it exactly ... it did look like a Native American :-) headdress!  And
>I am quite sure it was pale BLUE ... I don't think it was the lighting.
>
>
>Dave Ochs               "Would you just calm down, you're supposed to be
>daveo@cv.hp.com         innocent!"  Edmund to Dimitri, breaking in on
>                                    a 'business' meeting at Erica's

I KNEW it, that damn thing looked a different color from the dress
and I couldn't tell if it was blue or a real white white.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Alma
From: linda@unix.SRI.COM (Linda J. Szkoropad)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: SB:  Place results so far
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:44:50 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, California

In article <3865@randvax.rand.org> pboren@rand.org (Pat Boren) writes:
>
>And here I had the (dumb) idea that the logical place to
>meet would be...Santa Barbara!  I live in the Los Angeles
>area and am unable to travel in January.  I could, however,
>visit the real SB town and be a proxy for the rest of you.
>Should I lay a wreath somewhere or strew the ashes of a
>burnt videotape on the beach in memorium, ala Kelly?
_________________________

I too thought this was a great place...I will be thinking of you
because I think your the only other person on the West Coast who
send articles
>
>Pat
>
>P.S.  Just how old is Warren supposed to be?  I figure Jack
>Wagner is about 30.  Last week, he told BJ he could have been at
>Haight-Ashbury in the 60's with his VW, which would make him
>either early 40s or a hippie child at 10.  Huh?!
>-- 
______________________\

I too agree that the continuity person is OTL.  Speaking of lunch,
the other day Kelly offered to take Skyler to lunch, minutes later
they are telling BJ its too late in the evening to get a judge for
her arraignment (huh?)





Linda Szkoropad
2nd Spokesperson from the WEST COAST YEEEAH!
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From: patstew@oz.plymouth.edu (Pat Steward)
Subject: Re: AMC: Hayley/Brian/Dixie
Reply-To: patstew@oz.plymouth.edu (Pat Steward)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 12:48:51 GMT

In article <YeqBtf600iUyI4=sxb@andrew.cmu.edu> jt3j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jennifer Allyson Turner) writes:
>
>Yeah, but isn't it getting her hopes up just telling her that he'll
>"think" about it?  If he was really serious about this other *girl*, he
>wouldn't have had to think about it.
>
>Seems to me that if he had really been over Hayley, he would have just
>told her to get lost the first time she told him she wanted to get back
>together with him.

This is an inherent problem.  I TA'd a course on communication last
spring, and when we were talking about this sort of interpersonal
communication, most of the men in the room said that they would lie
to their female partners about this sort of thing.  Why?  "To be
nice!"  "To let her down easy!"  "To avoid the hassle!"  The women in
the class were flabbergasted that the men thought this was the best
way to proceed, and the men were flabbergasted that the women didn't
appreciate their attempt at "being nice".  Interesting, eh?  Let me
tell you, troops, the more I study communication between the genders,
the more amazed I am that we *ever* get together.

>PS  Jack's survived this long without a romantic interest, I don't know
>why Hayley couldn't.  :^)

Too true for words!  Of course, Jack's been on the back burner
lately...
-- 
Pat Martin Steward                          patstew@oz.plymouth.edu
I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is;
I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express senti-
ments that differentiate me from a doormat.       Rebecca West, 1913
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From: snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com (Cindy Newell)
Subject: Re: LGO - update needed
Organization: Denver, Colorado
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:06:10 GMT

In article <183871@pyramid.pyramid.com> llk@pyrxbooter.eng.pyramid.com (Lynn Lassalle-Klein) writes:
>Could someone please post an update of "Life Goes On" from last
>Sunday (October 11)?  Thanks.
>
>Lynn


As far as I know, LGO was preempted by the Presidential debate, at least
that was the case here in the mountain time zone.  I am not sure about
the West and East Coast, but I think that nobody saw it. 

You could try calling your network and ask if they are going to broadcast
it at an odd hour, the next Sunday, or just skip that episode completely.

-- 
 Cindy Camp - Usual disclaimers apply   |  Just waiting for a good quote
 Martin Marietta  (303)977-9804 	|  or lyric right now.
 snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com  or	|  
 cnewell@azum.den.mmc.com		|  
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From: IDSWB@ASUACAD.BITNET
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Good-bye Shane
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:36:52 GMT
Organization: Arizona State University

Picklet writes:
>Well, I am going out on a limb here, but I just have to
>say that I cried when Shane and Kimberly said good-bye.

  This was so sad.

>They used to be so good together, never my favorites,
>but definitely watchable, especially when Emma was around,
>and them Eve.  I could really care less now about either
>of them for the most part, but I guess I cried, because
>the good-bye scene reminded me of how wonderful it used
>to be.  MAN I HATE THIS SHOW NOW!!!

  Ah yes.........the way things were.  You're right.  They weren't the
  best couple but, (and the main difference between days of old and days
  of today) they were watchable.
>
>Was it only me, or did anyone want to see Shane take
>Kim in his arms and lay one of those sloppy, gross,
>kisses on her, just for old times sake?  Man those 2
>were terrible kissers, I could barely stand to watch
>them.
>
True again.  They were terrible kissers but, yes, I did want to see him
  take her in his arms.......better than just helping him pack.

>Pickle
>
Thanks Pickle

A wishing there were at least a couple more watchable pairs on Days now Quince

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From: clt@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com (Christy L. Thierstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC Adam`s Marriages
Date: 7 Oct 92 21:43:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Chevron Oil Field Research, La Habra, CA.

In article <1av7slINN3cd@male.EBay.Sun.COM> girl@slavery.EBay.Sun.COM (Mary Smith) writes:
>In article <97775@bu.edu> mjmh@mappo.bu.edu (Michael J M Holmes) writes:
>
>Adam - Skye's mom, Erica, Brooke, Dixie
>
>Any addition ?????
>
  Adam - Skye's mom, Erica, Brooke, Dixie, Natalie
  Any others? 

-- 
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From: mcguire@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Melissa Mcguire)
Subject: RE:AMC:tan:I'm back!!!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  8 Oct 1992 16:16 EST  


Hello everyone!!!  I am now officially starting my new job at NASA Lewis 
Research Center as a contractor.  I have been off for two weeks now waiting 
for the officially offer to come in, so now I am back. I haven't been able 
to read anything from this net in two whole weeks and I feel lost without 
you all while watching AMC.  I think I missed some stuff while I was on 
vacation since I went to Tucson for a week.

I any case, I am back and ready to keep postin!!  Hello CAZ, Margaret, 
Trish and everyone.  I missed you all.

P.S.  I guess I have to give up wanting Brian and Halo together again.  Oh 
well, you can't have everything.

Melissa McGuire
mcguire@limso1.lerc.nasa.gov
From: gck@hector.uucp (24641-kemmerling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: NewNat's Hair & other things
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:38:10 GMT
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ


I missed alot of posts - had to skip them - too many to read...

anyway...I wondered if I was the only one to notice Tom's hair!  Where did
this show find their hair people?!?  

Also, am I the only one who does not like the new Nat?

gayle
E-mail address: gck@hector.cc.bellcore.com 
Morristown, N.J.
(201) 829-3950
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Wednesday, 30 Sep 1992 15:05:04 EDT
From: Nelson Broat <NMBCU@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: SB: Just wondering????

In article <1992Sep30.131819.27766@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, 22302LMK@MSU says:
>
>Need some opinions on this one, if Bill Bell wasn't planning Manhatten Lives,
>do you think the Network jerks would even consider taking off Santa Barbara?
>I don't think so....But since Deidre(my sh*t don't stank) Hall is the focus
>then I have to wonder just how far would they brown-nose to this woman.
>thoughts, comments.....

My feelings are that TPTB at NBC are a bunch of morons. They shelled out a
couple of million dollars at Ken Cordays request to get Diedre Hall to return
to Days, because he absolutely had to have her, and now they're forced to let
some good people on Days depart because they just don't have the bucks to
keep them around; Lynn Herring, Susan Seaforth Hayes (please lord tell me I'm
wrong on this one), and lord knows who else.

So the people at NBC aren't forking anymore needed cash over to the people of
DOOL, but yet at the same time are certainly willing to start a new soap
starring the *sshole actress in question, WHO DID NOT SAVE DOOL as KenDORKUS
said she would! And in so doing something needs to be sacrificed...so the
sacrafictial lamb becomes SB! The people who run NBC DayTime Programming
(starting with Susan Lee), are a bunch of f*cking morons. If they think
I'll be tuning into ML they are out of there minds!

Don't watch ML when it airs! If it airs! Let the people at NBC know that
you're not willing to accept ML as a substitute for SB!

Call and write to NBC Daytime and let em know how you feel. Call and
write to the sponsors and let them know how you feel. This is war!

A poster with the initials  R. e. M. :) supplied me with these addresses:

>       SB Productions
>       c/o NBC Studios
>       Studio 11
>       3000 W. Alameda
>       Burbank CA  91523


>       Daytime Programming
>       c/o NBC
>       Attn:  Susan Lee
>       3000 W.  Alameda
>       Burbank CA 91523


Nelson
From: rha@ralph.lafayette.la.us (Ruth Alleman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AW: New Survey
Keywords: Increase AW posts
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:25:03 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Home Sweet Home, Lafayette, LA

In article <1992Oct14.145141.21298@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> saj@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.suravlas) writes:
>Per Lisa's request, here is a survey that might help increase AW posts.
>
>1. Is Kevin a mass murderer or is he being framed?

I want him to be the murderer but not to be sent away.  He'll get off
because of his tragic background.  They'll get a Taylor type shrink to
work with him and things will be all better.

>2. Should Kelsey bring charges against Jamie or should she protect the man
>   she loves?

Absolutely!  She has recently been showing signs of hating the "holy
Cory" attitude.  Kelsey is finally showing some spunk and should
continue to do so!

>3. Should Dennis marry Marley?

I can't say I really care.  It is nice to see Marley have fun,
however, and if Dennis continues to drop the macho act it will be very
tolorable.

>4. Should Ryan go back to Vicky or have an affair with Jenna/Frankie?

Vicky and Ryan really belong together.  Frankie belongs with Cass,
although Ryan could be interesting.  An affair with Jenna?, as my 4 yr
old says, "yea, right!"

>5. Will Tommy die from cancer or will he go into remission?

He will probably die and bring Iris and Hank closer together.

>6. Should Iris go back to Spencer or have an affair with Tommy's father?

I'd like to see her with Hank.  Iris has always been good when she was
"slummin'".

>7. What's the future of Jake and Paulina? Will Jake be brought to trial
>   because of the Jamie/Kelsey tape?

Jake and Paulina will stay together, he will not be brought to trial
because Jamie will try to make a deal with him to help out Jamie's
case with Kelsey and the hospital.

>8. What should the writers do with Hannah, Matt and Donna?

Give Matt AIDS and kill him, drown Hannah or find someone for her to
love.  Keep Donna and have her put Roger in his place publically.
Donna needs another true love like what she had with Mike.  I could
tolerate her with John!

>9. My favorite characters/acters on the show are:

LORNA!!!!!
Frankie
Byron

>10. I can't stand the following characters/acters:

Grant, Hannah, Lily

>11. My favorite story is:

Lorna, Felicia, Ada having chats.  (I know that's not really a story
but that's what I enjoy.)

>12. The story I like the least is:

Lily's arranged marriage.

Thanks John for the survey.  When will you post the results?

Ruth.
From: lhess@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Leah Surber)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: Y&R - this week
Date: 9 Oct 92 12:20:56 GMT
Reply-To: lhess@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Leah Surber)
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

In article <1992Oct7.193217.3215@schbbs.mot.com> C11815@maccvm.corp.mot.com
(Josette Giacobbi) writes:
>
>Someone said:
>
>
>Soaps seem to shy away when it comes to the topic of incest. 
>
>Did you forget that Cricket and Scott were engaged to be married
>when she found out that her mother got pregnant by a sailor (?) after
>some dance, who turned out to be Scott's father!!
>           Josette

Yes, but our pure sweet virginal Chris did not engage in premarital sex, 
about the only character for whom this abstence is even beleivable.


L



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