HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jc@apple.com (jc)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: NIN PHM cover
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:53:55 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc.

In article <2478@blue.cis.pitt.edu>, mawst13+@pitt.edu (Michael A Wong) writes:
> 
> In article <1993Jan16.064613.14032@ennews.eas.asu.edu> mcguirk@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (infophage) writes:
> >In article <1993Jan15.142757.9842@hubcap.clemson.edu> btheoba@eng.clemson.edu writes:
> >>I've been meaning to ask this for a LOOOOOONNNNNNGGGGG time:
> >>
> >>What the hell is that a "picture" of on the cover of PHM?
> >
> >Looks sort of like a spine to me...
>  
> 
> I am convinced its part of the crown on of the Statue of Liberty..
> 

And I always thought it was a really fucked up picture of Trent going
for a burrito...
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:59:03 CST
From: Bones, <U38956@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Skinny Puppy limited edition metal box

Well, my limited edition of SP's "Back and Forth" in the stainless steel box
came.  Unfortunately the only cool thing about it is the box.  It's silver
and has a cool graphic of what looks like a Cenobite.  The CD in the inside
is plasti-paked and has the same cover, but says "Limited edition CD"
on it.  I was expecting more.  Oh well.  In case you are wondering what
this was, it costs $30US and there is only 1000 available worldwide, avail-
able ONLY through Nettwerk mail order.  BTW, I've sent this one back, so
there is still at least one available if anyone wants it.

Bones
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Andrew C. Crowell)
Subject: Re: Interview with Blixa Bargeld [1/2]
Organization: University of Illinois School of Music
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 04:02:49 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.214729.4986@spcvxb.spc.edu> 6anthony_m@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
>
>Thats it for Part One.  I will have to wait until next week to hear the
>rest.  I have a few questions for people who may know about some of this
>stuff..
>
>2.  Has anyone heard anything by George Crumb or Groetchke? I am probably
>    spelling the latter wrong, but its my best guess.

George Crumb's done a lot of stuff, much of it works for small ensembles, all
of it fitting into the "Classical/New Music" vein. Crumb's noted for using
a lot of strange techniques with very conventional instruments, something
which Blixa would probably be picking up on, considering EN's approaches to
instrumentation and sounds.
	The second composer in question is Henryk Gorecki, and the piece
Blixa's talking about in the interview (which goes from ppp to fff in
dynamics) is most likely the recently-released version of Gorecki's
Symphony no. 3. And yes, Blixa's right, it's a great piece...

>3.  Did anyone here see EN live before?  If so, how was it?

Ask Ben Cox. I know he did, describing it as one of the loudest things he'd
ever heard in his life (right up there with Skinny Puppy in ear-splinter
capacity) :).

D.A.C. Crowell
Computer Music Project/School of Music
University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
(dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu)

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From: etxsahm@eua.ericsson.se (Marten Sahlen)
Subject: Re: Interview with Blixa Bargeld [1/2]
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 09:20:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.214729.4986@spcvxb.spc.edu> 6anthony_m@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
>
>3.  Did anyone here see EN live before?  If so, how was it?
>

I saw them back in 1984. Possibly one of the loudest concerts I've ever been to,
maybe with the exception of My Bloody Valentine. Lots of screeching, banging, 
slamming, and pounding, but overall a pretty safe show. No fire or destruction
as far as I can remember

At their show the night before, in another Swedish town, one of the members in the
band threw a Molotov cocktail into crowd, which slightly burned some guy.

-- 
>>>>-----------------Marten Sahlen  etxsahm@eua.ericsson.se-----------------<<<<
>>>-----Ellemtel Telecom Systems Lab, Box 1505, S-125 25 Alvsjo, Sweden------<<<
>>--------------------"An apple a day keeps the doctor away-------------------<<
>--------an orgasm a day keeps the psychiatrist away" - Dusan Makavejev--------<
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:38:50 CST
From: Bones, <U38956@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: pigface members

I liked the Pigface show too, and want to see them again in Feb 20.
The thing i DIDN'T like was Lab Report opening up for them..Yuck
Phatang, phooie!

Bones
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: hopson@fraser.sfu.ca (Christopher H.G. Hopson)
Subject: Re: PIGFACE RETURNS Feb 20, 1993!
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:38:52 GMT

  I saw them in Toronto a few days before Christmas and it was amazing!

BTW does anyone know 1) who was missing from the Toronto show ?
                     2) were there any special guests there ?

I saw them before I bought the album and didn't really know who everyone
was.

Thanks.

Chris Hopson
hopson@sfu.ca

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From: tuffyd@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Devin 'Nice Guy' Tuffy)
Subject: Re: pigface members
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:59:26 GMT

About no opening bands with drummers...

When I saw Pigface in NYC, they had 4 opening bands...Evil Mothers (they had drums),  Moses on Drums (Drums here too), EBN (didn't have them), and Psychic TV
(i think they had drums...)

But they did keep Atkins' drum set behind some sort of screen for the opening bands... maybe at the aforementioned show there wasn't enough room for another drum set...


-- 

Devin Tuffy
tuffyd@rpi.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,rec.music.misc
From: irving@halcyon.com (Larry Gilbert)
Subject: Sampled sound database
Summary: Discussion of a catalog of sampled sound sources/pieces
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:27:56 GMT

I've noticed a lot of questions of the form "Does anyone know where song
X got its sampled sound Y?" lately.  It occurred to me that this could
be a sign of potential interest in a "sampled sound database", akin to a
lyric database, where the contents would be a list of songs or other
recordings that use sampled sounds, along with the sources (and
descriptions) of the sounds.

I'd like to build such a database on an experimental basis, and I'd like
to hear some ideas on how much (or little?) detailed information it ought 
to contain.  Also, if you have sampled sound source info, feel free to 
e-mail it my way so I can get started.

Finally, if it would be more appropriate to discuss this in other
newsgroups, please let me know which ones!

Thanks.

-- 
Larry Gilbert       |  		"Try psychoactive drugs!"
irving@halcyon.com  | 
finger for PGP key  | 						E B N
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From: dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Andrew C. Crowell)
Subject: Re: Einstuerzende Neubauten
Organization: University of Illinois School of Music
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:29:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.135931.12587@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:
>In article <C1DLB4.A8o@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (And
>ew C. Crowell) writes:
>>
>>Okie...but don't tell Nena that "99 Luftballons" was a hit. Or Falco. Or
>>Kraftwerk. Or...or...or...
>>	Just coz you can't grok the lyrics doesn't mean others aren't going
>>to get into it, y'know...
>
>
> I'll point out that the popular songs by the mentioned artists were
>largely played in English versions, although the German ones were played a
>_few_ times. I never heard the German version of Der Kommisar until about
>5 years after it was popular.

Weird...when all those came out, I remember hearing the German versions
_much_ more than the English. Oh, and the Falco one I was referring to was
"Rock Me Amadeus". Some cover band did a remake of Falco's "Der Kommisar"
and had it out in the States about the same time as Falco's. 
	Of course, it could just be radio in Nashville, where I was living
when these things hit the radio. Nashville can be weird like that sometimes...

D.A.C. Crowell
Computer Music Project/School of Music
University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
(dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu)
From: joca@mtek.chalmers.se (Jonas Carlsson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: NEW Puppy release
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:50:51 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology

b92fdu@tdb.uu.se (Fredrik Duprez) wrote:
>I got a letter from Nettwerk the other day, saying that both bites and
>remission will be re-issued on CD. Does anyone know whether these have been
>out long in Canada? If so anything worth buying?

IMHO these two albums are the best from the Pups besides Rabies.
They've been out quite a while even in Sweden but on the same disc as "remission & bites"
and "bites and remission".

Can't remember what year they're from though, somewhere '84ish with a year between,
haven't got them here (they first landed in my favourite record store as vinyl so
they won't fit in the Sparc-station CD-rom ;).

/J
-- 
Misfortune, n.:
The kind of fortune that never misses.
-- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 10:10:07 CST
From: Bones, <U38956@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: FLA and Robocop

In Mindphaser, the sample that goes:
"OCP cybernetic industries---state of the art destructive capabilities"
or something to that effect is from Robocop.

Just an interesting tidbit

Bones
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: scupin@spot.Colorado.EDU (SCUPIN  JONATHAN RAYMOND)
Subject: Re: Neubauten new release follow-up
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 05:45:26 GMT

pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Paul Michael Lewis) writes:

>I went to my local record store today hoping to find the new EN album, but
>alas, nothing.  I checked, and my store has a couple copies on order, and they
>haven't received anything.

>Is there a definite release date?

>-- 
               My local record store said feb. 2 as the release date
                      couldn't get here soon enough!
                                        +don

>+-| Paul Lewis |--| Jonestown: WLVR 91.3fm  Coming Soon...  |-+-------------+
>|  'I'd love to turn you on.'                  -The Beatles   |             |
>|  'You should be with us, feeling like we do  -Perry Farrell |     1       |
>|   like you love to, but never will again.'                  |    2 3      |
>|  'The struggle between God and man breaks    -Kazantzakis   |             |
>|   out in everyone.'                                         | Renaissance |
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From: d0np@lysithea.sun.csd.unb.ca (Godzilla)
Subject: FLA disc prices.
Organization: University of New Brunswick, Fredericton, NB, Canada
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:08:17 GMT


I was just interested to hear what people are paying for the FLA
disc Tactical Neural Implant (I think this is the name of the disc).
In the local music store it is priced at $32.99 CAN, so I am kinda 
balking at getting it.

   Email me, since this would probably not be a general interest question.


                                       Mike

d0np@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca
d0np@unb.ca
From: ep2j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Edward Pak)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: SPVideos
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:12:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.IfNAV6i00WBM8=raN_
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

IS there a X rated version and a triple x version of WORLOCK?
...............................................................................
.

                           EDDIE....

_______________________________________________________________________________
_

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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,rec.music.misc,alt.music.alternative
From: whatis@wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu (....What Is?....)
Subject: "U2 Negativland" shirts
Summary: Available again!
Reply-To: whatis@gnu.ai.mit.edu.UUCP (....What Is?....)
Organization: Universal Media Netweb
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:36:11 GMT

Hi!  I'm printing "U2 Negativland" shirts.  In case you missed the
previous posts, here's what they look like.

The front is a digitally reconstructed version of the original cover, in
the original 2 colors.  (It's reconstructed, because if I just scanned
it in, it would look like crap.)  The right shirt sleeve is the
Universal Media Netweb logo in black, and the back is the "Corporate
SST Still Sucks Rock." from page 42 of "The Letter U And The Numeral 2".
The shirts themselves are 100% cotton white Hanes Beefy-Ts.

I mailed 5 from the 1st printing to Negativland and 2 to the Copyright
Violation Squad.

If you're interested, mail me and I'll send you more details.

Thanks,

Steve Boswell
whatis@gnu.ai.mit.edu
Too many writers confuse inspiration with being depressed and on drugs.
From: depeche@cs.mcgill.ca (Acme Instant Dehydrated Boulder Kit)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: NEW Puppy release?
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:21:22 GMT
Organization: Net-A-Holics Anonymous

In article <1993Jan25.143849.15496@tdb.uu.se> b92fdu@tdb.uu.se (Fredrik Duprez) writes:
>I got a letter from Nettwerk the other day, saying that both bites and
>remission will be re-issued on CD. Does anyone know whether these have been
>out long in Canada? If so anything worth buying?

Both of them have been available AS ONE CD in both US, Canada and Europe,
for at least 4 years now. 

In the US, it's distributed by CAPITOL. In Europe, by Play It Again Sam
records (slightly different from the north american version) and in Canada
by Nettwerk. 

This re-issue might be the same as the one which is in Europe, with
slightly different ordering, and 3 different tracks. Unless you mean that
they will be released as TWO separate CDs?

-- 
| Alan Ezust    depeche@cs.mcgill.ca   McGill University Computer Science    |
|------------------------ Montreal, Quebec, Canada --------------------------|
#include <funny.but.meaningful.quote.txt>
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: weitzman@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Adam J. Weitzman)
Subject: Re: Its in my brain now
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:18:45 GMT

In article <C17x0p.FyE@javelin.sim.es.com> pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) writes:
>
>I'm looking for the sample source to the samples in Meat Beat Manifesto's
>"Helter Skelter".  "It's in my brain now", "Helter Skelter", and "Roger Copy".
>Any ideas?

"It's in my brain now" is Luc Van Acker, from the remix of "TV Mind" that was
on the B-side of Revolting Cocks' "Stainless Steel Providers" EP. Dunno
about the other two.

					- Adam J Weitzman
					  weitzman@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu
"All our life is spent in this permanent brainwashed contempt."
	- Meat Beat Manifesto
From: 6anthony_m@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: what i've heard from alien.
Date: 27 Jan 93 08:41:22 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

> 
> Hmm...perhaps, but I've noticed that the song, Psalm 69, is more akin to the 
> Bible's Psalm 69.  Psalm 69 begins:
> 
> "Save me, O God.  For the waters have come up to my neck.  I sink in deep mire,
> where there is no foothold; I have come into deep waters, and the flood sweeps
> over me.  I am weary with my crying; my throat is parched..."
> 
> And then there's the line in the song "Learning to swim in the ocean..."
> 
> I suppose I could go through and draw elaborate connections, but I have better
> things to do with my time.


Well i guess you have never read the bible.  there is no Psalm 69,  jeez at 
least know your enemy..

The Fiend  
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
Subject: Re: SPVideos
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:10:07 GMT

ep2j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Edward Pak) writes:
>IS there a X rated version and a triple x version of WORLOCK?

I have a Triple X version of Worlock, I have no idea about a single
X version.

Jester
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: Meat Beat Manifesto - versions of Strapdown
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: Meat Beat Manifesto
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 04:13:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.205436.48733@watson.ibm.com> drewb@torolab4.vnet.ib
.com (Drew Birtwistle) writes:
>Can anybody tell me where I can find the version of
>Strapdown used in the video?  I have the versions from
>Storm the Studio and Armed Audio Warfare -- the video
>version is less noisy and has more samples -- disco music,
>etc.  The video is GREAT by the way.
>
>
>Drew Birtwistle	
>drewb@torolab4.vnet.ibm.com


 I've been trying to track this version down for years now. It could have
to do with the fact that the original masters for Armed Audio Warfare were
burnt in a fire. I don't know, really...

St. Anthony
From: jc@apple.com (jc)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: NIN PHM cover
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:54:18 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc.

In article <2478@blue.cis.pitt.edu>, mawst13+@pitt.edu (Michael A Wong) writes:
> 
> In article <1993Jan16.064613.14032@ennews.eas.asu.edu> mcguirk@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (infophage) writes:
> >In article <1993Jan15.142757.9842@hubcap.clemson.edu> btheoba@eng.clemson.edu writes:
> >>I've been meaning to ask this for a LOOOOOONNNNNNGGGGG time:
> >>
> >>What the hell is that a "picture" of on the cover of PHM?
> >
> >Looks sort of like a spine to me...
>  
> 
> I am convinced its part of the crown on of the Statue of Liberty..
> 

And I always thought it was a really fucked up picture of Trent going
for a burrito...
From: maus@terapin.com (Steeeeeve Butowick)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: RE: chris and cosey
Date: 24 Jan 93 22:26:52 PST
Organization: BBS

Hmm...a big chunk of Chris + Cosey's stuff is techno-dance-whatever [NOT rave],
but they balance it out with a lot of weird 'ambient' stuff and a little bit of
hellish noise every once in a GREAT while...I personally don't really care for
it at all, but I do know a sizable number of people who enjoy it.

I really, really hate Cabaret Metro...grrr.
18 and over with 3 pieces of ID? GEEZ!
I don't even HAVE three pieces of ID
oh well

plus of course there's that TEENSY little atitude problem that the workers
there have
From: pa_aml@dec17.coe.northeastern.edu (Andrew Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Ministry samples Nine Inch Nails !
Date: 28 Jan 93 22:12:44 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Northeastern University

I've seen the Just one Fix CD single at Tower in Boston....
last week in fact (or maybe justthis past weekend...)
its got some William Burroughs spoken word on it too, in addititon to like
2 mixeds of Just One Fix and the aforementioned Quick Fix

    Drew Lewis  alewis@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu / ua_aml@nuhub.bitnet
   Censorship is UnAmerican  -- Rock the Vote / Nazi Punks FUCK OFF -- DKs
   You Know Me, I hate EVERYONE -- NIN, Wish / MTV get off the air -- DKs
          I only Kill to know I'm ALIVE -- Ministry, So What
         The music revolution of the 90s will NOT be televised.  
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From: jlitchfi@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Jon Litchfield)
Subject: Re: Skinny Puppy limited edition metal box
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:25:40 GMT

In article <93026.085903U38956@uicvm.uic.edu> Bones, <U38956@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>Well, my limited edition of SP's "Back and Forth" in the stainless steel box
>came.  Unfortunately the only cool thing about it is the box.  It's silver
>and has a cool graphic of what looks like a Cenobite.  The CD in the inside
>is plasti-paked and has the same cover, but says "Limited edition CD"
>on it.  I was expecting more.  Oh well.  In case you are wondering what
>this was, it costs $30US and there is only 1000 available worldwide, avail-
>able ONLY through Nettwerk mail order.  BTW, I've sent this one back, so
>there is still at least one available if anyone wants it.
>
>Bones

All the "Back and Forth" CDs say limited edition on the cover, not just the
ones that come in the metal case. I think the metal case is a real rip-off.
From: goat@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (the wonderful goat-bo)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Puppy samples (Was Re: Ministry sample sources)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 03:24:43 CST
Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

On the topic of neat samples (ps: I never quote anything.. it's just a 
hassle...)  J.G.Thirwell samples Jim Jones profusely in his (aptly 
titled) Jim Jones Mix of Lies by EMF (hey Foetus mixed it.. that's a 
reason to buy it right?  And Alex Patterson [apollo whatever] did the 
other mix so I'm justified and defensive)... I believe the original 
source tapes for that mix were put out by Temple Records.. but I may be 
wrong..
PS: 'Hey poor you don't hafta be poor anymore, Jesus is here' sampled in 
Welcome To Paradis and more recently Jericho (Prodigy)... where is this 
from?  Any ideas?
                goat
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From: petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jim Petersen)
Subject: Re: chris & cosey
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 07:37:43 GMT

In article <blakesle.727650757@helium> blakesle@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Charles D Blakeslee) writes:
>What videos has Spuppy done? I've only managed to see one in my 3 or 4 years
>of fandom...that was a video of "Dig It"
>

I've seen videos for Worlock, Stairs and Flowers, and a song off the
new album, which I can't remember the name...

I suppose it goes without saying that the videos put out by bands
like Skinny Puppy are on a completely different plane from the
crap they show on EmpTyVee... 

>More importantly, are these videos (or those of FLA) available on a
>videocassette on the market somewhere?

If anyone knows anything on this score, let me know as well....
Luckily there are a couple of places to see this stuff here in
Chicago, for any Chicago area readers: Medusa's in the video room
(maybe other clubs too, any suggestions?) and JBTV, which is a
generally excellent video show on public access television... to
find it, flip channels to pub.acc. sometimes and look for either
cool videos or an old dude who looks a lot like Jerry Garcia (and
kind of acts like him too...)


-- 
_____________________________________________________________________
 ...More than just ashes                                 Jim Petersen
When your dreams come true               petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
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