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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: deep space nine
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:05:22 EST
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

>*Bzzt*  WRONG.

Are you ALWAYS this rude when making a point?  Are you the same guy who
said "*Bzzzzzzt* WRONG!  A geosyncronous orbit is........."?  Come on,
be a little nicer here.  No one wants a flame war.  I made my point
nicely by putting in "I beg to differ".  My point was to voice my
opinion, not try to be the king of r.a.s.c.

>        2.  There is NO great racial mutation that caused all of them to
>        get bumpier heads and darker skin (just *think* about it -- it's
>        a stupidly unscientific idea to begin with).

Well, call me stupid, but I obviously didn't think so.  I think it would
be almost logical to say that their skin developed a darkness after the
evacuation of Kronos. WHO KNOWS?  It's just science fiction and there is
no one way or person that can say "I'm RIGHT and you're NOT!" about this
particular matter.

>Gene wanted us to imagine that TOS Klingons have bumpy heads and are
>*exactly* like TNG Klingons.  Whether or not this is enjoyable or a
>wise decision is not the point.  It was Gene's decree and I think that
>this pretty much settle this discussion.

I am not Gene.

>Now, move this to .misc! :-)

Geez, complain, complain complain...  Why didn't you in the first place?


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From: tkogoma@triton.unm.edu (Gym Z. Quirk)
Subject: Re: The Final Reflection (was HELP
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 21:38:27 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <seRKQ1S00VokI3=nV9@andrew.cmu.edu> Robert Edward Timlin <rt16+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>     If you want ST novels from a different point of view, try the Diane Carey
>books "Dreadnought!" and "Battlestations!" (exclamation points actually part
>of the titles). Anyway, they are different in that they're written in first
>person, directly from the point of view of ht author's main character (Lt, then
>Lt Cmdr Piper). The main ST characters actually come out kind of secondary
>(more so in the first book than the second) as the books focus on the author's
>own characters.

The 'r.a.s.* Veteran' opinion of these books is that they're "Lt. Mary
Sue" stories.  Now, I personally think that they're decently (though
not well) written "Lt. Mary Sue" stories, but your milage (kilometerage?)
will vary.

>                                                   -Robb Timlin
>                                                    rt16@andrew.cmu.edu


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From: cs106b16@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs106b16)
Subject: Re: Minuet
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 03:39:17 GMT

>How many episodes did Carolyn McCormack appear in as Minuet?

At least 2, but I think that's all...
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 27 Jul 1992 06:21:13 CDT
From: <U16028@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Patrick Stewart interview

The following interview of Patrick Stewart, by John Kiesewetter of the
Gannett News Service, appeared in the Sunday, July 26, 1992, edition of
the Chicago Sun-Times.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

From Shakespeare to the starship, Patrick Stewart's career has been on
warp speed since "Star Trek: The Next Generation" premiered in 1987.

At age 52, the former BBC star has gone where no Mirfield, England, native
has gone before.

TV Guide readers just named him "The Most Bodacious Man on Television."
Stewart, who plays cool Capt. Jean-Luc Picard, took the title in a
landslide, grabbing 54 percent of the vote in a race against the likes of
Luke Perry and A Martinez.

"Yes, I was surprised, very pleasantly surprised," said Stewart, taking a
break from shooting the "Star Trek" season premiere.  Suddenly, he's bald
and beautiful.  A sex symbol at 52?  He lost his hair before Perry was even
born!

"The concept, even as recently as a few years ago, was so improbable," he
said.  "My experience in the last five years has been of a kind that I
never anticipated."

It's hard for him to believe he's found security selling Gene Roddenberry's
futuristic vision in "Star Trek: The Next Generation," TV's highest-rated
one-hour syndicated series.  After all, he was a Royal Shakespeare Company
player who had appeared in "I, Claudius" and "Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy."

"I didn't unpack my suitcase at the beginning of this," he said.  "I lived
in a friend's spare room, out of my suitcase, for the first few weeks."

Now he's logged more miles on the Enterprise than William Shatner.  "The
Next Generation" cruises into its sixth season this fall, while Shatner's
NBC series only lasted three years (1966-69).  Also, in January, Stewart
will appear in Paramount's spinoff series, "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine."

Entering the final year of his contract, Stewart has heard Hollywood gossip
saying "The Next Generation" would boldly go into feature films, as
Shatner's crew did.

"It would seem to make excellent, good sense," Stewart said.  "There's no
reason why not.  I don't believe this is the last season of 'The Next
Generation,' but it is the last year of our contract."
From: matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Borg (East) vs Feds (West)
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:31:48 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <1992Jul24.172551.1762@udel.edu>, ram@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Stormbringer) writes:
> In article <1992Jul20.114834.4636@gw.wmich.edu> whitt@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>>I've been thinking quite a bit since rewatching "I, Borg" on
>>tape, mainly because of the discussion between Geordi and Hugh
>>about why humans don't want to be assimilated.  It strikes me
>>that, as much as the Federation claims to be all-inclusive,
>>IDIC-oriented, the ideals its representatives expound still
>>sound extremely 20th century USA, as liberal as they are.
>>
>stuff deleted...
 
> this particular episode was based on a very short novel called "Anathem"


That's _Anthem_ ... or was that a typo?

Kellie M-S
Internet: Matthews_K@cubldr.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: WHO IS HOTTER? TROI, CRUSHER, OR GUININ?   TROI!
From: ashum@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 24 Jul 92 10:21:42 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <1992Jul24.082000.16770@ecst.csuchico.edu>, kostj@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jason E. Kost) writes:
> In article <1992Jul23.175807.957@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu> ngsippel@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu writes:
>>THE HOTTEST WOMAN ON THE ENTERPRISE IS
>>
>>TROI!
>>
>>LOVE THAT BOD OF HERS!  Plus She Can Read My Sexy Thoughts About Her Through
>>The Tube! :)
>>
>>I love TROI!
>>          
> What about Kalar(sp?), Worf's woman?  She's the best looking (1/2)Klingon
> I've ever seen.

How about the woman w/ the Irish accent in the episode in which all that
livestock got brought abord the Enterprise?  What's her name?
From: flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip Russell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: A silly Top 10 List
Date: 21 Jul 92 09:01:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.54630
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Jul21.040102.27257@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> hpky@gauguin.cc.rochester.edu (Hanan Polanski) writes:
>In <20JUL92.12311290@umbc1.umbc.edu> noel@umbc1.umbc.edu writes:



>>TOP 10 REASONS PATRICK STEUART WAS VOTED MOST BODACIOUS MALE

>>1.  His bald head makes him look like a giant er, uh, you know.

>No. I don't.  Giant Captain of a starship? um, Giant "before"
>picture in ads for bad hair-pieces? er, Giant loaf of bread??

>I give up....
>				James Willer at hpky@gauguin.cc.rochester.edu
>					OR jmw1388@cs.rit.edu
>{The opinions above probably aren't those of
> Hanan Polansky. I don't know. I didn't ask.}


Have someone at Planned Parenthood explain it to you.



Flip

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From: DISPATCH@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu
Subject: yet *another* silly top 10 list
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:58:37 GMT

Taken from the Raleigh News and Observer, Friday, Sept 6, 1991. Credited
to Features Staff. Reprinted without permission.
 
Get a Life
 
In honor of the 25th anniversary of "Star Trek" on Sunday, here are the
Top 10 reasons to retire the original crew for good.
 
10. It's time to stop the meaningless slaughter of Tribbles for William
    Shatner's toupees.
9.  Commissary on board doesn't serve Slim Fast.
8.  Bones has finally realized, "I'm a doctor, not an actor!"
7.  Spock has joined Robert Bly's men's movement.
6.  Klingons and Romulans get a better offer to become Flygirls on
    "In Living Color."
5.  Enterprise power source discovered to be Folger's crystals.
4.  Alien babes don't kiss like they used to.
3.  Crew doesn't like plot of next movie -- "Star Trek VII: Federation
    Family Feud."
2.  We can't take much more of this, Captain!
 
And the No. 1 reasone to retire the crew...
 
1. Kirk to Enterprise: "I've beamed down and I can't get up."
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From: ph3@unixg.ubc.ca (Michael Hamilton (phys 306))
Subject: Re: The Name Game
Keywords: characters' names
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:30:23 GMT

In <1992Jul23.045011.679@admiral.uucp> dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman) writes:

>In article <1992Jul21.182334.41895@chili.cc.lehigh.edu> learnd@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Dave Learn) writes:
>>Here's an item of interest for people wondering where the names come  from
>>for Star Trek characters.
>>
>>We all (or many of us, at least) have heard about Jordi LaForge, the 
>>out that "pulaski" is actually a word and not just a name.
>>
>>Add that to other useless name trivia about the origins of names like
>>"Hikaru" (means the Shining One, see Vonda Mackintyre's _Entropy Effect_
>>for more info.), "Mr Atoz" ("A to Z," appropriate for a librarian) and
>>N'gilam ("Malign" backwards).

>Also, from the episode 'Darmok,' the eponymous alien captain's name is 'Komrad,'
>backwards. Komrad -> Comrade. 

There is a TNG book about a significantly polluted planet, which has other
political problems as well. i.e. Militant environmentalists, class society,
etc. The name of the only river mentioned in the book is the _Eloki River_,
obviously a cryptogram for _E. Coli River_. (E. Coli is the most prevalent
bacteria in human feces. Tee hee.)

-Mike.
From: wwo@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (Thomas Schoene)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Spock quotes Sherlock (Aristotle?)
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:47:36 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

There has been a bit of discussion about Spock's quote from Sherlock Holmes.  I
was curious because I thought I heard Data (in TNG) attribute that same quote
to Aristotle.  Does anyone know if that is a direct quote (in translation
obviously) or if that simply reflects Aristotelian philosophy?

-- 
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From: noel@umbc1.umbc.edu
Subject: Deep Space Nine Comic book info
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore County
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 04:03:50 GMT

From the Comic Buyer's Guide #974--July 17, 1992

"Malibu acquires upcoming 'Star Trek' TV Series"

('Star Trek:  Deep Space Nine' to be comic book)

	Malibu comics has announced that is has acquired the comic-book rights 
to the new "Star trek" television series "Star Trek:  Deep Space Nine".  The 
official announcement was made my Malibu publisher Dave Olbrich at teh recent 
Diamond Comics Retailer Seminar.
	The forthcoming television series "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" is a 
spin-off from "Star Trek:  The Next generation" and is scheduled to begin in 
January from Paramount.
	Malibu Comics plans a regular monthly series and quarterly specials and 
is assembling the various creative talents for the books.  Writers and artists 
are encouraged to submit samples via main with a self-addressed stamped 
envelope (no phone calls) to Malibu Comics, Star Trek Submissions, 5321 
Sterling Dr., Westlake Village, Calif.  91361

Xref: sparky rec.arts.startrek.misc:7434 rec.arts.startrek.fandom:1105 alt.fandom.cons:230 rec.arts.sf.fandom:793
From: pierrot@milton.u.washington.edu (The Pierrot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.fandom,alt.fandom.cons,rec.arts.sf.fandom
Subject: IMPERICON TWO: The Next Convention, Labor Day Weekend
Summary: Trek Con -- fan-run fun!
Keywords: Seattle, Washington
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:52:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Jul21.215239.4736
Distribution: pnw
Organization: ImperiCon Committee


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From: cmhayes@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Purple Hayes   )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: The Inner Light
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:32:49 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego


According to a recent poll on the net, "The Inner Light" was voted
the best episode this seaon.  What was it about?  I dont remember
the episode at all.

Chris 
cmhayes@sdcc13.ucsd.edu

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From: jimdean@bnr.ca (Jim Dean)
Subject: Re: "Royale" is a great episode.  NOT!!
Originator: jimdean@bcrks81
Reply-To: jimdean@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:33:01 GMT


bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs) writes:
> 
> I never saw "Royale" before last night.  Now I'm sorry I did.
> It is the worst Next Generation episode of all time.
 
Hey! I *liked* "The Royale" and still do even almost 5 years later,
and I don't care who knows it. :-)

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From: disaacs@pietrzak.carleton.ca (Dave Isaacs)
Subject: The Schizoid Man
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 13:52:01 GMT

I just caught the episode "The Schizoid Man" in a local rerun last night.
It wasn't bad, but I was disappointed at the title of the show, which implied
that schizophrenia is a form of multiple personality disorder.  This is a
very wide spread myth which couldn't be farther from the truth.


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From: judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Mange Moi! (was: Re: *** Help me think up a good Star Trek...)
Date: 31 Jul 92 01:42:15 GMT

> Here in Boulder, I have seen the Colorado license plate "MERDE," which
> obviously got through the license bureau intact.  So you may be right

In French, merde is not as strong of a swear word as the English translation.
Also, I remember some phrase, I forget what it is exactly, but it has
the word merde in it but it is not used in the context of a swear word.
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From: jal41820@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Smiley)
Subject: Re: WANTED : ST:TNG tapes
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 06:56:15 GMT

brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
:)In article <1992Jul24.132732.19348@yang.earlham.edu> alexv@yang.earlham.edu writes:
:)<  *Real* Trek Fans buy the collector's edition from Columbia Vidio House. 
:)** Super-Real ** Trek fans buy ST:TNG laserdiscs!

:1,$s/Real/Rich

:)

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From: aabbasi@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Amal Abbasi)
Subject: old Roddenberry interview in Penthouse
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:45:13 GMT

I posted this before, but got no response.  I am reposting this in a
last attempt to obtain this article, as it is important to my friend.
Any help in the matter will be much appreciated.

Recently, I posted about an old Roddenberry interview a friend of mine
lost.  I now have all of the relevant information about the article thanks
to those of you who responded to my posting.  My friend is trying to get
a copy of the following article:

		"Why Star Trek Keeps on Trekkin'"
		by Linda Merinoff
		Penthouse
		March 1976
		Vol. 7 # 7
		Gene Roddenberry interview starts on pg. 92

If any of you have the article and would be willing to photocopy it and
send it to me so I can get it to my friend, he is willing to reimburse you
for the cost of the copies and postage.  I have agreed to handle all of the
details, so if you can help out, please e-mail me and we can arrange
everything.  Thank you!

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From: theresa@cmatter.physics.indiana.edu (Theresa Vaughan)
Subject: Re: The Name Game
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 01:34:50 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.001316.19935@beaver.cs.washington.edu> jdcurtis@cs.washington.edu (Janet Denise Curtis) writes:
>I think "picard" refers to a province in France.
>
>
   As in Picardie? Interesting idea. Anybody know where they got
Spock from? Or for that matter, the other TOS character names?


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From: yung@r-node.gts.org (Amos Yung)
Subject: Re: Borg (East) vs Feds (West)
Organization: R-Node Public Access UNIX System (416-249-5366) - 24 hrs
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 04:23:09 GMT


This is NOT a flame. Please do not treat it as such.

In article <1992Jul20.114834.4636@gw.wmich.edu> whitt@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>
>It struck me that Geordi is advocating a very Western philosophy
>-- not necessarily USA, actually, so I partially retract what I
>said above.  But the idea of individuality and holding onto it
>above all else is definitely part and parcel of Western civi-
>lization. 

So, you just find out that Star Trek is culturally biased. Welcome to the
club.

Then again, hardly any value system in any part of this world can be
culturally non-biased. As the western culture being the dominating culture
on the face of this planet, most westeners do take this for granted. I    
always remind the people around me that some basic concept of freedom,
love, liberty and human rights that are fundamental to the western culture
are not universal standard.
 
>
>It seems like a parallel to the conflict between Western and Eastern
>religions, really.  Of course, the Borg are different in one major
>way -- they are extremely pushy about their way of life being "THE
>WAY"...and I think that's the only reason why they're the bad guys
>and not a valuable ally, as they could be.
>

That I disagree. Self-righteousness is a universal human nature. The    
Western civilization has their fair share of being "pushy about their way
of life". 

>


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