HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: Re: Desperation (was Re: Commitment--The C-word?)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 09:50:47 GMT

diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:
>kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Me) writes:
>>*humph*  I said it first.  
>>Guess I'll cancel the order for the flat of raspberries & the Valrhona 71%.

>Kiran, don't be insulted!  

*laugh*  Just teasing.  I don't use raspberries by the flat.  
I mostly use em frozen, freezing helps release the juice. 

>I did say I was going to take you up on your dinner offer... 

Anytime.  Pimientos are in season here, even as I type I'm testing a
recipe for (chilled) roasted red pepper soup.  Maybe the honeydews
will be in, melon and almond soup is quite nie on a hot day.

Then late-summer tomatoes, the last of the Silver Queen, and the
season will be over.  Wait too long and it will be back to flageolets,
lamb shanks, leeks, potatoes, parsnips, smoked ham, winter stuff. 

>I've just been ridiculously busy trying to create a life
>for myself here in a brand new city.

You might ask Aahz where he got his life.  It seems to be woking out well.

>Don't cancel out on the raspberries, puhleeze!

Oh, Okay, if you insist.  Should I cancel on the Val Rhona then? :-)

(Hmm, how many people know Valrhona, I wonder?  Incredible stuff.) 

(Yum!  These pimientos are awfully sweet.  No sugar necessary.  The
recipe seems to have worked, but I won't know until it has chilled for
a few hours.  With a Cuisinart, this soup is trivially easy.  I'll
post it to rec.food.cooking if it turns out.

-- 
"The popular notion that Ostriches subsist largely upon a diet of
 horseshoes is quite erroneous.  They swallow sand, nails, and glass
 to promote the digestion of their food, which includes watches,
 doorknobs, and pieces of old machinery.  Horseshoes are merely an
 occasional luxury*."
 ..............................Will Cuppy, _How To Attract the Wombat_

"* Horseshoes lack certain essential vitamins.
   They are harmful when swallowed to excess."
-- 
Kiran Wagle <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ron@turing.toronto.edu (Ron Wessels)
Subject: Re: BOINK! BalloonBoink, Coming soon!
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 10 Sep 92 03:49:22 GMT

aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius) asks:
>What is the sound of Sit happening?

Perhaps the same sound as the Shuttle's toilet.  I believe it was Larry Niven
who was examining the blueprints of the zero-g loo, and sent a copy to his
publisher.  He outlined the "rotating blades designed to separate the solid
and liquid wastes" and added a note

    "Jim: as near as I can figure, the sh*t is >supposed< to hit the fan!"

-- 
Ron Wessels		University of Toronto		ron@turing.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel)
Subject: Re: "want" vs "need"
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 04:05:05 GMT

In article <5177@news.duke.edu>, diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:

> This is so clearly a hypothetical question that I'm not sure it's 
> meaningful.

   It was a deliberately extreme example.  My intended point was that
I think when people say "I need an SO in order to be happy", the SOship
was actually a goal that they chose based on its perceived 
*achievability* as well as on its perceived *desirability*.

> Uh, Mark, no offense, but I'm not sure what you're talking about.

   No offence taken -- sometimes not even I am sure!

> I never said that MOTAS that I don't love are inferior to those I 
> love, I said that I enjoy sex more with persons I love.  How did 
> omniscience get into the discussion?   

   Our lack of omniscience limits those we love to those we know.  Now,
how did *sex* get into the discussion? :-)

>> Pardon my ignorance; who are the Howard Family?
>
> Oh.  Sorry.  It's a Heinlein reference... 

   Which book?  I've only read _Stranger in a Strange Land_.

misrael@csi.uottawa.ca			Mark Israel
Sunbeams brightly play, where Fancy's fair pavilion once is pight.
From: stan@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Stan Horwitz)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Singles Bar (Why would you want one?)
Date: 9 Sep 92 01:07:58 GMT
Organization: Temple University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Josh Diamond (jmd@bear.com) wrote:
: 
: Hola!
: 
: In article <19920907101722IZZYFU9@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU> IZZYFU9@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU writes:
:    Anyone have any recommendation to singles bar around Los Angeles or
:    westwood area?
: 
: This post makes me wonder -- do people really enjoy spending time in
: these meet/meat markets?  Every time that I have been to one I have
: felt as though I am either expected to be shopping for merchandise, or
: on display as merchandise.  I had enough of these places when I was in
: school -- I didn't like them then, and I don't like them now.  They
: seem to be fraternity beer-bash parties for superannuated freshman.
: 
: I think my problem with the concept is the fact that there is
: absolutely no purpose for these places other than bringing bodies
: together.  I would much rather meet people through common activities
: than through the fact that we both happened to be drinking mediocre
: beer in an overcrowded bar.  
: 
: The only times I have gone to a "singles bar" in the last several
: years have been because someone I was visiting really wanted to go, or
: because I didn't know where I was going.  The idea of going to a
: "singles bar" of my own volition is as unlikely as water flowing
: uphill.
: 
: My suggestion to the original poster is to avoid singles bars like the
: plague.  Try getting involved in some group activities instead.  You
: are much more likely to meet someone and create a relationship there
: than in the "meat market".

I certainly do not enjoy being at a singles bar. I am not a big fan of beer or
of other forms of alcohal and I hate cigarette smoke with a passion. I also
do not have time to spend in places where I am not comfortable. 

My latest plan for meeting people is to join a local bicycle club. According
to the newsletter I read from this organization, it seems like a lot of 
people are members that are in my age group. It is also a chance for me to get
out and get some riding in on my new mountain bike. So hopefully, I can
combine getting excercise with finding a new girlfriend. I just sent the form
away to apply to this bicycle group yesterday and I am anxiously awaiting my
first outing with the group. Has anyone else had success with this type of
plan in meeting a SO?

Take care,

Stan
stan@astro.temple.edu
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjj@mits.mdata.fi (Joni Jarvenkyla)
Subject: Re: Various ramblings...
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:36:14 GMT

In article <14517@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>And I'd like to spend a week on a deserted tropical island with Angelwing,
>the swedish bikini team, and Elvis.

You'd be lonely.

-- 
jjj@mits.mdata.fi     Thanks, Life; thanks, Death    And the other me:
jjj@niksula.hut.fi    for freeing me from self       Jenny L{rv{joki
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: valentin@mot.com (Matt_Valentine)
Subject: Re: SHOULD I CALL MY EX-GIRLFRIEND?
Reply-To: valentin@next3.corp.mot.com
Organization: MOTOROLA 
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:51:47 GMT

 In article <1992Sep10.175716.6271@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com>  
shear@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Jeff Shear 3769) writes:
>
>I broke up with my girlfriend about 2 months ago. Since
>then I haven't spoken to her.  I would like to call her
>just to say hi and see how she's doing--sort of to salvage
>a friendship out of a 6 month relationship.  It just seems
>so stupid that two people spend so much time together and
>then all of the sudden they never talk to one another again.
>She hasn't called me and I haven't called her.  Any advice
>out there would be greatly appreciated. I suppose that I 
>haven't called her because I'm afraid to find out how she
>might react to my call.
>

  My opinion is that you are having a "knee jerk" reaction to the breakup.  
If you are positive you would be calling only to be friends, then it  
probably wont hurt, but make sure you wont just stir up any pain feelings  
in either one of you that you might be starting to overcome now.   
Sometimes it is easier to just go forward.  
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max)
Subject: Re: Where the best posts come from
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 16:57:16 GMT

In article <c5mn-y#@lynx.unm.edu> hays@TECHNET.NM.ORG writes:
>In article <4125@moscom.UUCP>, wjb@moscom.UUCP (Bill de Beaubien) writes:
>>Larry 'Purple' Hays (hays@TECHNET.NM.ORG) wrote:
>>: In article <1992Sep1.193918.12045@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
>>: >In article <14405@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>>: >>Anyone that has the balls/gall/chutzpah/ability to suck up to himself 
>>: >>deserves a perfect 10.0 on the suckup scale.
>>: > 
>>: >And the judge from chicago concurs.
>>: >What precision. What flair. What ambidextrousity.
>>: 
>>: Well, Hell.  Nobody *ELSE* was gonna do it.
>>
>>Hey, you never know.  Some of us are open to bribes.
>
>I'll mail ya a lizard.  Green racer or horny toad?
>

Well I'd opt for the green racer but my bet is that james would identify
more with the horny toad.

Max

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Heinlein
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 02:14:23 GMT

In article <5328@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:

>  ("Hey, guys, how come women never ask *Heinlein* out?")

Because he's dead.

(Well, you asked.)

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com

Or did you mean Ginny Heinlein?
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Various ramblings...
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:34:55 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Sep5.084401.15310@zooid.guild.org> ross@zooid.guild.org (Ross Ridge) writes:
 
>I don't have any.  Money isn't very important to me, but food and shelter is.
 
How do you manage to pay for food and shelter if you don't have any money?

-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira     | Auspex Systems | "Auspex does not share my opinions.  |
| johnf@auspex.com | Santa Clara CA |  So Why am I still working here?"    |
+==========================================================================+
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: Cooking for 1!
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 16:41:08 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.211925.7609@odin.corp.sgi.com> lana@magenta.corp.sgi.com (Lana Mountford) writes:
>In article <14428@auspex-gw.auspex.com>, johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>|> In article <5049@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:
>|> |If someone around here knew of a good place for wings, I'd probably hock
>|> |one of my parrots and buy some!  I'm broke, but I'm also awfully tired 
>|> |of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.  (And of eating alone)!

Um, don't parrots have wings?  On the other hand, they can be conversational.
(Sorry, but someone had to say this.)

>|> We'll why don't you ask someone out.  Wait,  you already did that didn't
>|> you?  Eating alone sucks doesn't it.  Especially for someone that likes
>|> to cook.

This can be the case even for those who detest cooking.  My threshhold is
about 30 minutes.

>This, to me, is probably the second worst thing about not being in a
>relationship.  I --++**LOVE**++-- to cook, have a fairly substantial 
>cookbook collection, and live near some incredible fresh goodies
>(fish, veggies, etc.).  I entertain about one weekend a month (small
>dinner parties, mostly), and that's fun.  The rest of the time, I cook
>and freeze a lot.  At least, I have the chance to experiment on my own.

When I first read the subject, I thought this posting would be a complaint
about the extra expense of buying single-serving sizes or storing leftovers
only to have them go bad, but it seems to be mixing the separate activities
of cooking (for 1) and eating (alone).  The problem of eating alone can be
divided into eating alone at home and eating alone elsewhere.  The former
can be solved by playing the radio (I prefer NPR in the morning when I'm
only half-awake and probably more suggestible) while reading a newspaper or
book (I prefer newspapers at breakfast and a book at lunch or dinner).  Of
course, this presupposes multi-tasking capabilities for the cerebral CPU.

As for the latter problem, that of eating alone elsewhere, usually at
restaurants, most don't mind patrons reading while dining, but some are too
dimly lit.  As for a radio, SONY and other companies offer a solution.
None of this will alter the common perception of the solitary diner as a
pathetic figure, but the secret is not to give a damn what others think.

-- Herb Huston
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Tallllll women....
From: wall@hel4.brl.mil (Jeff Wall)
Date: 7 Sep 92 15:25:29 EST
 <ymmnyd-@lynx.unm.edu> <14480@auspex-gw.auspex.com> <1992Sep4.193544.14412@odin.corp.sgi.com>
Distribution: world
Organization: U.S. Army Human Engineering Lab  Aberdeen, MD

In article <1992Sep4.193544.14412@odin.corp.sgi.com> lana@magenta.corp.sgi.com
(Lana Mountford) writes:

>Sheesh!  Where *WERE* all you guys when I was a tall skinny high school kid
>who was *constantly* made fun of because I was so tall??  I topped 5'7" in
>6th grade, and ended up at 5'10" when I graduated (geez -- I just realized 
>I've got another HS reunion coming up pretty soon -- 25 yrs).
>
>John, I agree with your point about comparable heights providing a better
>"fit."  I happen to prefer men who are 3"-5" taller than me, and I've gotten
>a lot of flack from shorter guys who feel that I'm "discriminating" against
>them. (I don't, really -- I've dated guys as short as 5'7".  I just *prefer*
>guys who are taller.)  My father was 6'4" and my mother was 5'2" -- I often
>wondered how  ... er ...  well, never mind.  (It's always a strange feeling
>to think about parents actually "doing it," for me anyway.  Don't mind me,
>it's Friday before a long weekend, I've got my guitar in the car to get
>restrung, and I intend to spend the weekend relearning how to play it!)

I could never imagine my parents actually "doing it " either.  I've come to the
conclusion that my sister and I were Immaculately Concieved.

Jeff Wall
wall@hel4.brl.mil

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: pmoloney@maths.tcd.ie (Paul Moloney)
Subject: Re: E.W. - Weddings....
Organization: Somewhere in the Twentieth Century
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:00:04 GMT

ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams) writes:
>Gabe writes:

>>	Hmmmm, seems like you've been hanging around the wrong type of
>>	Irishmen. Almost all the ones I know of, just-over-on-the-boat,
>>	and most 1st/2nd generation Americans seem to have a certain affinity
>>	to the game. 

>	Hey, they don't count as Irish!  Only people born and bred in
>Ireland are considered to be Irish.  They are Americans who just happen
>to have Irish ancestry!

Excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me, Ms. Williams! I take great exception at you 
casting asparaguses on my nationality! OK, so I was born in England, but
my parents were Irish, I lived most of my early life surrounded by
Irish ex-pats, and the moved to Ireland when I was seven. I certainly don't
feel English.

Anyway, we're all supposed to be European now, so it doesn't really 
matter anyway (viva Jacques Delore and allathat).

,           ,
P. (with a fada)
-- 
moorcockheathersiainbankshamandcornpizzapjorourkebluesbrothersspikeleepratchett
clive P a u l  M o l o n e y "Lines of light ranged in the nonspace of the  rem
james Trinity College,Dublin PMOLONEY%MATHS.TCD.IE@PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU mind." vr
brownbladerunnerorsonscottcardprincewatchmenkatebushbatmanthekillingjoketolkien
From: wjb@moscom.UUCP (Bill de Beaubien)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Desperation (was Re: Commitment--The C-word?)
Date: 13 Sep 92 00:11:11 GMT
Reply-To: wjb@moscom.com
Organization: Moscom Corp., Pittsford, NY
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Emma Williams (ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie) wrote:
: 	You're saying you'd like to have an SO who smells like a 
: freshly cooked pizza all the time? (*GRIN*)

Always said that I could eat pizza every day... :-)
-- 
"Bless me, Father; I ate a lizard."
"Was it an abstinence day, and was it artificially prepared?"
-------------------------------------------------------------
Bill de Beaubien / wjb@moscom.com 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams)
Subject: Re: Powerful forces of nature conspire
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 08:58:35 GMT

In <thurlow.715667135@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:

>In <Bu2t50.Hx3@belay> buick@belay (Patrick D. Buick) writes:

>>How come the intense interest in this group amongst the women to come where the
>>snowbirds go?  I know I like to do things in the snow (leave it to your 
>>minds :-)  but an influx of net_goddesses?  wow!.. I'm overwhelmed...

>There ya go, Emma, you're christened a "net.goddess".  Here are the
>keys to the newsgroup <jingle>, and here is the operators manual

>on that) ... there's a training session on Monday morning at 10 A.M.,
>yes, I know it's early, but you can't play Nintendo all night and
>hold a position, dear ...
	
	Speak for yourself, dear.  I am very good at holding a position
all night! ;->

>     							 ... And for
>Godssakes comb out that cowlick, it just doesn't take advantage of
>the fiery red hair those net.geeks like so much ... Here, take the

	Red hair?  Bzzzzzzzt, wrong! Jet black, actually... 

>clipboard, it'll give you something to refer to in case you can't
>wing your commencement address completely ... Now go, hurry, your
>audience awaits!
		
		To quote Sally Field on accepting her Oscar....

	"You *LIKE* me, you really really *LIKE* me!"   
			(*Laughter*)
	I'm speechless...but first of all, I'd like to thank my parents
without whose support I could never have made it to where I am today...
Oooops!  Wrong speech....sorry!:>
 
			
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Dill Dough
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:05:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.055933.24183@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.IBM.com writes:
>In  <1992Sep9.210738.3962@panix.com>  pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich) writes:
>>
>> The Midwest!?!? You mean the place where people still wear white
>> shirts and narrow ties and think it's about 1957? Where a good
>> time is watching cows sleep?
>
>Two words.
>
>Cow tipping.
>
>Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
 
BWAP. BWAP. Call to arms. Call to arms. A vicious mongol hoarde from the
east has attacked our hoeland(heh).
Being born in NY. Tonawanda to be exact. Having all relatives still residing
in the aforementioned state I'd just like to say.
On the east coast, at comedy clubs(all blatant ripoffs of Second city located
in beautiful chi-town) the patrons can hardly contain their exhuberance
when attempting to tinker their tea cups and often times actually
hit their fully extended pinkies with their spoons thereby causing them
to figit on their Vlasic extra zesty dill spears.
Dawn bring the child back to the homeland.
Can you say Truman Capote.

 
================================================================================
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From: zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu (Randy Zagar)
Subject: Re: Finding Romantic Partners (long)
Summary: This is getting PATHETIC
Keywords: Pathetic, un-realistic, valueless
Reply-To: zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu
Organization: Marine Studies, University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:56:38 GMT


You know, I'd like to see this thread return to a practical discussion
of actually 'Finding Romantic Partners'.  For a (very short) while, there
was actually some useful discussion about attitudes (and methods) for
expanding/improving one's social/romantic life.

Considerable bandwidth might be saved if the innuendo currently being
swapped around in this thread were delivered by e-mail.

---
 _____________________________________________________________________________
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| Randy Zagar                            Get your priorities straight.        |
| Internet: zagar@Chester.CMS.UDel.Edu   No one on their death bed ever said  |
| Bell-net: 302/831-1139                 "Gee, if I'd only spent more time    |
|                                        at the office..."                    |
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From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Believe in youself, dammit! (was: Re: Singles Bar)
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:25:00 GMT
	<JMD.92Sep11173357@lion.bear.com> <rawdon.716262195@cs.wisc.edu>
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
In-reply-to: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu's message of 12 Sep 92 01:43:15 GMT


Yet more...

In article <rawdon.716262195@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:

   In <JMD.92Sep11173357@lion.bear.com> jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond) writes:
   >And people: STOP TELLING EVERYONE THAT THEY ARE WRONG!  The fact that
   >you haven't made it work for you in the past DOES NOT INDICATE THAT IT
   >WILL NOT WORK!

   This sounds to me a lot like saying, "The fact that you've done poorly at
   math before does not indicate that you'll do poorly in the future."  Sure,
   it doesn't mean conclusively that it won't, but, given a reasonable amount
   of experience with math (whatever "reasonable" is), it DOES indicate IMO
   that it is VERY, VERY UNLIKELY that you will do well at it in the future.

You seem to have missed the primary point: You are expending a huge
amount of time and energy in attempting to prove that you are right,
and I am wrong.  You attempt to prove that you have no control over
your results.  BULLSHIT!  The fact is that if you really want to be in
a relationship, you will do WHATEVER IT TAKES to create that
relationship.  If that means that you have to change your beliefs
about yourself (and I believe it does), SO BE IT.

So, you are correct -- improvement is unlikely -- but only in the case
where you try the same techniques over and over again.  Indeed, if you
stick with the same method, your results will probably stay the same
until hell freezes over.

A counter-example to your argument: Identical twins A and B take the
SAT, and both get the same poor score.  Twin A takes a remedial course
(e.g. Princeton Review), twin B does nothing.  Both take the test
again.  Chances are that twin A will get a higher score than twin B.
Why? Because twin A put some effort into getting the result he/she
wanted!

Is it possible that the reason some people have not succeeded is that
they have not examined which techniques actually work, and are still
using the same old ones which were not effective in the last 50
attempts?  Have they done all that could be done to achieve the
success that they desire?  I think not.

New success is indeed very unlikely if one is unwilling to take action
to improve the chances of success.  


					Spidey!!!



--
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//\((  ))/\\
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From: jis@panix.com (Jack Szwergold)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: NYC Blade Runner Person
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:51:41 GMT
Organization: Panix, NYC

Hey people.... 
     Anybody in N.Y.C. want to go see the re-release of Blade Runner? 
It's the "director's cut" and is supposed have a different ending and
previously unseen scenes. 
     E-mail me if you want to get togther for this.

Jack
jis@panix.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles