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From: staggers@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ken Staggers)
Subject: Re: Continental Elite one-class upgrades
Keywords: upgrade student availability
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:19:54 GMT

In article <torrie.702882843@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie) writes:
>  The conditions on the back say that the upgrade can be used in
>conjunction with any paid, available adult fare, excluding certain
>promotional fares.  Does anyone have any practical experience of using
>this?  What sort of promotional fares are not included?  Has anyone
>tried using it with an AMEX voucher?

The NW coupons specifically stated that they were not upgradable.  I know, I
tried to use a special any class upgrade coupon with my NW/AMEX coupon
together...I even went to the airport and gave the person the upgrade, but
she knew.  Read the back of your Continental/AMEX coupon to see if upgrades
are allowed. 

--Ken
From: jive@spanky.ssc.gov (Jim Ivey)
Subject: Re: American to cut fares 30%-40% ???
Organization: SSC Laboratory, Dallas, TX
	<1992Apr11.190658.3796@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:46:46 GMT


>  I haven't heard if the new prices include international routes.  I hope
>  they do :).

     I believe the rate decreases are only for domestic flights.

     Jim
From: crane@mips.com (Margaret Crane)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: One-Way From Europe
Date: 10 Apr 1992 17:42:34 GMT
Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Sunnyvale, California
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: drizzle.mips.com
Originator: crane@drizzle.mips.com

I will be taking a RTW trip in May.  The first leg of my trip
I will be heading to Asia on a One-Way flight to Bangkok.  From
Thailand, we will travel to Bejiing and from Bejiing we will
take the train to Moscow.  I have not yet purchased my ticket
home(San Francisco).  I was told by my travel agent that it would be cheaper for
me to purchase my one-way ticket home from Europe (Amsterdam).
Does anybody out there know any truth to this?  Thanks in ad-
vance!!

Margaret
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From: gjw1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Gregory J. Watson)
Subject: Re: DON'T DO BUSINESS WITH AMERICAN "EXPRESS" (Re: AMEX coupons???)
Reply-To: gjw1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 17:15:05 GMT

In article <10APR199211450025@venus.lerc.nasa.gov> smpalaz@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Shankar Jagannathan) writes:
[Stuff deleted about another story about Amex]
>
>Well, I wont bother repeating the same messy details as they occured in my
>case. Suffice it to say that I am convinced that AMEX service is lousy 
>especially if you are a student member, although you still pay the full
>member fee. They had better realise that there are few benefits not 
>offered by competitive cards esp. VISA and M/C.

	I disagree about AMEX.  I have been very pleased with AMEX,
and have not had any problems with them.  I do not believe that Amex
treats their student members (like me) any differently than of any
other members.

	Whenever I have had a need to call Amex, I have been able to
just call the customer service on the back of the card and talk to a
person who has always been able to help me.

	Since this is rec.travel.air and not something related to
consumers, I'll relate a story about them which is one of the reasons
why I am renewing my Amex card.

	I was one of those people affected by the closure of Midway
Airlines.  I had used the first half of the ticket to come out here to
Chicago, and I had the return trip to go back to Washington.  [Midway
unfortunately shut down in November, a sad day here in Chicago.]  The
ticket had been purchased using the Card.  So, I call Amex to ask what
I should do (i.e. get a refund, try to transfer it to another airline,
etc.)  The first person I talked to answered all of the questions I
had, without any run around.  The answer was that I should 1) see if
any of the other airlines would honor the ticket (the ticket had been
bought with a student discount so other airlines might be more
hesitant to honor it); if that didn't work 2) call Amex back and THEY
would see if they could get another airline to honor it, and if that
didn't work, then 3) Amex would refund the unused portion of the
ticket (so I wouldn't be a creditor of Midway).

	As it turned out, American and United were both willing to
honor the ticket, so I didn't have to go to the next steps.  Amex gave
a perfectly reasonable response.  I had not been expecting to hear
possibility number 2), but I also thought that it was reasonable for
me to check first.  The competant response, and also how helpful they
were, is why I use them.

	It is possible that one of my other credit cards would have
done the same thing, but it would be a bit of a crap shoot figuring
out which ones would go to that length.

					Gregory Watson
					gjw1@midway.uchicago.edu
From: belk@dxcern.cern.ch (Andy Belk)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Delta 30 day Standby Airpass
Keywords: delta
Date: 14 Apr 92 12:53:26 GMT
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics

Hi Glenn,

In <1992Apr14.011134.23104@trl.oz.au> wallace@titan.trl.OZ.AU (Glenn Wallace) writes:

>A friend and I are travelling to the US in July, and we want to use a
>Delta 30 day standby air pass to get around.
>Has anyone had any experience with these?

I've been with NorthWest (3 years ago) and Delta (Christmas).

>How long are we likely to wait at airports for vacant seats, as we are
>"standby passengers"?
>(and no, we won't be travelling on 4th July etc...)
No. There was only one flight I didn't get on, and that was the one to 
Anchorage 9only one a day). However, two people is not the same as just one.

>How good is Delta (safety/service/food/legroom wise) ?
I'm not an expert but I have no complaints (except them trying to charge
me for carrying my bike - see other post !).

>What are the best times of the days to get seats?
Very early and very late flights. Surprisingly I also had no problem
getting flights that had meals provided ... for the budget traveller this
is a big boon ... and if the flight is pretty empty they sometimes have
an extra meal or so (I'm a glutton ...).

>The price for overseas travellers is US$449, which is damn good value
>for 30 days unlimited trips. We have a copy of the conditions and there
>are no catches, OTHER THAN the fact you are on standby.
>NorthWest have a similar deal, same price. Is this better or not?

See someone else's post regarding hubs, destinations etc.

>We have visions of waiting days in airport lounges....!
I doubt it very much. I even got on a flight from Buffalo in a 13-seater ...

Cheers,
-- 
					    ...   Anyd   ...
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From: marcos@netcom.com (Marcos H. Woehrmann)
Subject: Re: frequent flight bonus (FFB) transatlantic
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 20:29:12 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Apr10.093457.3169@bernina.ethz.ch>, wyle@bernina.ethz.ch (Mitchell Wyle) writes:
> I am flying with Swissair and want the miles
> credited to a FFB program (I don't care which).

You should have the miles credited to ALL the FFB programs that Swissair
has connections with.  I used to fly to Europe on Lufthansa 3-4 times a
year and I routinely got credit on Delta, United, and USAir.  There isn't
anything in the rules that prohibit this (at least there didn't used
to be).  Just make sure you are a member of all the programs, and then,
a couple of months after the flight, write them, sending them copies of
the tickets and the boarding passes stubs, and tell them you never got
mileage credit (which is true, you didn't).

marcos



-- 
"When a person who is not interested in computer    |    Marcos H. Woehrmann
 graphics asks you what your hobbies are, do not    |     marcos@netcom.com
 list 'color quantization'."    --Bill Davidson     |
From: brubake@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Anthony Brubaker )
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Courier Service
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:37:12 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Does anybody know anything about courier service from NY to London?  Is it a 
good way to travel?  Are there restrictions (baggage, etc.)?

Organization: Doctoral student, Social & Decision Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:44:37 -0400 
From: Ofer Zellermayer <oz00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Cheap flights from Mexico City to U.S


Hi, 
My sister plans to come visit me in August.
She is comming from Mexico City, and so far couldn't find any ticket for
less than around $400.
Does any body know anything, such as is there a way to buy the tickets
here for much less.
What's a good price for that kind of a trip?
Thanks, Ofer.
From: matikain@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Esko Matikainen)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Hellsinkin'
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:28:13 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

Hoping to spend May in a warm and unfamiliar environment, 
I and friend decided to travel from HEL to SIN (I always 
thought I'd do it the other way ;-) ) and back again. 

Any better ideas than Finnair for about $1100(direct) or 
Aeroflot for $900 (60/40 risk spending the month in 
Moscow because of fuel shortage)?

BTW:   HEL = Helsinki,Finland,  SIN = Singapore.
From: regli@cs.umd.edu (William C. Regli)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Northwest mileage bonuses
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:16:28 GMT
Organization: Yoyodyne Industries

In article <1992Apr13.115859.2634@tom.rz.uni-passau.de> steinke@forwiss.uni-passau.de (Gerhard Steinke) writes:
]Occasionally Northwest gives double/triple or bonus miles for flying
]a particular route or via a particular city.
]
]Does anyone know of such bonuses for flying from or to the cities
]of Detroit and Seattle?
]
]Thanks...G. Steinke   steinke@andorfer.fmi.uni-passau.de

I don't think they would EVER have such a promotion, seeing as that
Seattle and Detroit are two of their hubs.

b
================ 
William C. Regli                            I wanted to be a philosopher but
University of Maryland, College Park, MD    the laughter kept creeping in.
Department of Computer Science                --Dostevesky
Electronic: regli@cs.umd.edu   Vocal: (301)-405-2717
From: fannin@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (elizabeth a fannin)
Subject: info request
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:45:45 GMT

hi!  i'm looking for information on about what cost would be (or any way to
reduce it) to travel from the states (specifically, columbus, ohio--but i can
of course get to other airports (and probably will  need to, to get overseas
;-)) to either milan or amsterdam.  travel could be end of june, or july
(which i understand is "'crowded time" for most people; would fares be up?) or
later into the fall--september, october, november.

there was also a gentleman who posted re a file on courier service.  i tried
to email him, but it bounced.  mr. finkel, if you're out there, and you are
willing to mail such a file, i'd really like to have the info!

if anyone is generous enough to respond, please do so by email:
fannin@cis.ohio-state.edu, since i rarely have time to read bboards...

thanks!!!
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: cam@hawk.adied.oz.au (Cameron Newham)
Subject: LONDON-TORONTO air fare
Organization: Australian Defence Industries
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 09:20:39 GMT


Can anyone tell me what the air-fare is from London to Toronto return ?

Any info. would be greatly appreciated,

Cameron.


Cameron Newham  (The Master)       |  We call it
cam@hawk.adied.oz.au               |    Master and Servant.
Australian Defence Industries      |
Bentley                            |       -- Depeche Mode.
Western Australia.                 |

Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne)
Subject: Re: DON'T DO BUSINESS WITH AMERICAN "EXPRESS" (Re: AMEX coupons???)
Organization: Computer "Science" Dept, Yale University
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 17:34:29 GMT

In article <s35ekINN7tk@agate.berkeley.edu>, dbr@ocf.berkeley.edu (Daniel Rosler) writes:
<In article <1992Apr10.002614.22295@cs.yale.edu> 
<horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne) writes:
< 
<Not for the job opportunity you missed,

Oh, actually, that part was a lie.  :-)  I just wanted to drive home (to them)
the fact that customers' lives are important, and saying that I was just going
to visit a friend probably wouldn't have done the trick.

<but they would have had to pay
<you for the difference of $189 and the fare you paid.

$99, actually.  This was long ago.

<Their failure to
<send to the correct address is negligence on their part, especially when
<you had notified them again about the correct address.

I thought so but wasn't prepared to go through a legal battle--or take the
chance of losing several hundred dollars I didn't have.  Oh, well.

Again, DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH AMERICAN "EXPRESS".

					--Scott

-- 
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horne@cs.Yale.edu      SnailMail:  Box 7196 Yale Station, New Haven, CT   06520
203 436-1848                Residence:  Rm 1848 Silliman College, New Haven, CT
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From: jwlin@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jonathan W. Lin)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Short flights (was: Long Flights.)
Date: 15 Apr 1992 05:21:55 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: locusts.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Apr14.163506.9403@cns.umist.ac.uk> hs@cns.umist.ac.uk (Harold Somers) writes:
>What about short flights. Is the San Francisco - Oakland run still going?

I don't think so.  I saw this flight in the Oakland Airport Flight Selector
and was very curious about it (This was Nov. 1991) since I was wondering if I
could get the minimum 500 frequent flier miles on United by just crossing
over the bay. So, I called up United to ask about the flight and gave the
employee the flight number listed. Basically, the empolyee thought i was
crazy. "It's only ten miles or so, Sir..." So, I never figured out if the
listing was an error or not.

Now, though, the flight does not seem to exist as it is not listed in the
more recent flight selectors. Oh well...

Any other neat short flights out there just in case I need a way to get some
frequent flier miles and don't want to leave the area?

-----
Jon Lin
jwlin@ocf.berkeley.edu          
-- 
Jonathan Lin
jwlin@ocf.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen)
Subject: Re: Frequent Fliers
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 22:47:12 GMT

cjpaul@bahamas.ece.cmu.edu (Chakkalamattam J. Paul) writes:



>Hi!!!!

>I am planning to travel from Pittsburgh to India in late summer, and was
>wondering which airline to use.  I would like to accumulate those
>miles on an airline which has a neat frequent flier program  (Pan Am
>had a great one).  Any tips?  

>To my knowledge, Delta, Air France, British Airways, Lufthansa, Swiss Air,
>Singapore Airlines all fly to Bombay, and some of them supposedly have 
>tieups with US airlines for accumulating frequent flier miles.  If anyone
>has a FAQ file on frequent flier programs, that would help a lot.


 I belong to American's frequent flier program.  I think it is really good.
 I earned a free ticket for anywhere in the continental US after flying
 round trip to Europe.  This was because they double the milage of
 your first round trip and give you a 5000 mile bonus for joining.

 American has deals with: British Airways, Cathay Pacific, Quantas,
 Singapore and TWA (do they still fly?).  I was told that they also have
 an arangement with Lufthansa, but I can't find that listed in the 
 booklet that I have.  You need 20,000 miles for a free continental
 ticket by the way.

 The number of AAdvantage is 1-800-882-8880.  Call them and ask about 
 their current deals.

Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: klee@wsl.dec.com (Ken Lee)
Subject: Re: Is It Legal ??
Reply-To: klee@wsl.dec.com
Organization: DEC Western Software Laboratory
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 20:39:44 GMT

|> So, what's the story ? Is it illegal to sell tickets at all, once they have
|> been booked in your name or have your name printed on them ? Is it legal
|> but do the airlines kick up a fuss if you use someone else's ticket ? Are
|> there differing rules for international and domestic flights ?

In the U.S., it is probably fraud (a serious crime) to use a ticket sold for
the sole use of another person.  On domestic flights, they don't (usually)
check ID, so they aren't likely to catch you.  On international flights,
however, they always check ID (passports).

-- 
Ken Lee
DEC Western Software Laboratory, Palo Alto, Calif.
Internet: klee@wsl.dec.com
uucp: uunet!decwrl!klee
From: rk@athena.mit.edu (Richard Kovalcik)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Airline food
Date: 10 Apr 92 10:26:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Apr10.102605.19402
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Apr8.002544.15896@cs.yale.edu> horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne) writes:
>In article <rt63aINNees@agate.berkeley.edu>, mitja@hera.Berkeley.EDU (Mitja Baumhackl) writes:
><
><Airline food, a contradiction in terms?  :-)
>
>Airlines shouldn't even bother offering hot food for any flight under
>four hours or so.  How many times has the moron sitting next to you said
>to a flight attendant, "Excuse me, my meatloaf is cold"?  ("Oh, no problem,
>sir; I'll just send it back to the kitchen"?!?!  Come on.)

Gee, in the last month or so I had a stewardess on NW state up front
that if the steak (sic) wasn't cooked enough she would take it back and 
cook it more.  I overheard her say this to more than one person.

Now that I think about it, maybe it was on TWA rather than NW.  No, no way,
it MUST have been NW.
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: rk@athena.mit.edu (Richard Kovalcik)
Subject: Re: O'Hare -> San Juan
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 10:37:47 GMT

It looks like American has 3 non-stops daily.  Just goes to show you that
that major airline at a hub isn't necessary the best.  

P.S. They are on 727 (breakfast), 757 (lunch, movie), and DC10 (lunch, movie).
From: libove@libove.det.dec.com (Jay Vassos-Libove)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Unlimited travel tickets available IN US?
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:33:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Detroit Ultrix Resource Center

Someone just posted here about unlimited travel tickets for the
United States being purchasable only _outside_ of the United
States...

Is there a way of getting ahold a time-limited route-unlimited
air travel tickets _inside_ the United States, without violating
any laws or airline rules?

This sounds like a great idea for a long vacation!

Thanks...
--

Jay Vassos-Libove                  libove@libove.det.dec.com
Digital Equipment Corporation      decwrl!libove.det.dec.com!libove
Open Systems Resource Center       Opinions? They're mine, mine, all mine!
Farmington Hills, Michigan         and D.E.C. Can't have 'em!
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine)
Subject: Re: Longest Segment (was Welcome/etc.)
Organization: I.E.C.C.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 00:25:08 GMT

>I believe the longest nonstop routes are NYC-Johannesburg, flown by SAA.
>(sanctions permitting).

Nope, it stops in the Cape Verde islands.  Still a long trip, though.
Expensive, too.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us, {spdcc|ima|world}!iecc!johnl
From: autry@sgi.com (Larry Autry)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: More about BUMPS (Continental/People Exp)
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:40:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: odin.1992Apr9.164021.3386
Organization: Silicon Graphics, St. Louis, MO

In article <1992Apr9.134239.25174@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> jch@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (jeffrey.c.halle) writes:
>From article <1946@ra.nrl.navy.mil>, by ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host):
>> I was bumped on Continental when it was People's Express.
>That's pretty tough to do, since Continental never had anything to do with
>People Express.  Though in many ways they were similar.

If my memory serves me correctly, People Express was bought out by Texas
International which at the time owned both Eastern and Continental.
Chances are that People Express routes and aircraft were assumed by
Continental.  Otherwise, Continental predates People Express.
--
Larry Autry
Silicon Graphics, St. Louis
autry@sgi.com
From: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:45:26 GMT
Reply-To: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501

In article <2035@ra.nrl.navy.mil> ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host) writes:
>
>> Article <1992Apr11.064000.14622@cs.yale.edu> From: horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne)
>
>> In article <1992Apr11.033944.18218@odin.corp.sgi.com>, autry@sgi.com (Larry Autry) writes:
>
>> And if you have a baby, take a pacifier.  If there's anything I don't need,
>> it's four hours of "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!"
>
>Remember though that just because a baby has a pacifier
>it does NOT mean the baby will take it and be quiet.
>

Too true, none of my children would use a pacifier. Remember, also,
that if there's anything the child's parents don't
need, it's also four hours of "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!". 
There's nothing worse than arriving at one's destination completely
frazzled from having to deal with your young children who've been
constrained for a long flight.

--
Colin Morris       Ingres, an ASK company       cmorris@ws2s.ingres.com

"Clive Thomas' decision was the watershed when we realised that referees
 were crazy egotists and mad people" -- Six-O-Six
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: noe@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Roger Noe)
Subject: Re: Part 1 - N.America Airport Codes sorted by city.
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana,  IL
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 17:23:26 GMT

In article <sjones.703178344@cunews> sjones@alfred.carleton.ca (Stan Jones) writes:
>WMO in the heading is the World Meteorological Organization
>and the list actually appears to be as much a list of weather stations
>as a list of airports.

This is precisely correct.  I don't know for sure what the real
origins of the posted list of "airport codes" was, but I believe this
list is identical in content AND FORMAT to a file of weather stations
used by a program written here at University of Illinois by Charley
Kline (c-kline@uiuc.edu).  The program is called wxmap and can be used
to present weather map graphics on an X window display.  Paul Gibbs,
also at UIUC, had something to do with the software as well.
--
Roger Noe                            noe@cs.uiuc.edu
Department of Computer Science       40:06:39 N.  88:13:41 W.
University of Illinois               (217) 244-6173
Urbana, IL  61801  USA               "Open the %#%$# pod bay doors, HAL!"
From: ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:59:43 GMT
Reply-To: ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host)
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC


> Article <1992Apr11.064000.14622@cs.yale.edu> From: horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne)

> In article <1992Apr11.033944.18218@odin.corp.sgi.com>, autry@sgi.com (Larry Autry) writes:

> And if you have a baby, take a pacifier.  If there's anything I don't need,
> it's four hours of "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!"

Remember though that just because a baby has a pacifier
it does NOT mean the baby will take it and be quiet.

I know, I am a new father :)

-- 
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NRL Code 5800, 4555 Overlook Ave.; Washington, DC 20375   (202) 767-2046
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