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From: schandr@eos.ncsu.edu (SUMIT  CHANDRA)
Subject: Re: Sepultura 
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 19:40:45 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.204622.16339@ncsu.edu> schandr@eos.ncsu.edu  writes:
>What up?  I've recently been listening to Sepultura quite a bit and
>would like to ask the following questions:  
>1)  Has anybody seen their "Live Under Siege"(I think that's the 
>    proper title) video recorded in Barcelona ? and if so what are
>    your impressions as far as videos are concerned ?  I saw 
>    "Desperate Cry" on MTV a few weeks ago and it was awesome as
>    shit.  Also I've heard a live version of "Inner Self" that's 
>    supposedly on this video, I found it on the b-side of the "Arise"
>    single, and it was pretty incredible also.  Also how many songs
>    from "Beneath the Remains" are on this video?
>
>

I do realize that I'm responding to my own post, but I brought the
video in question and here is a brief review.

EXCELLENT Video to say the least, it epitomizes what Sepultura is
all about in my opinion.  It is energetic, honest, just plain fuckin'
awesome!!  It's about an hour long and has the following tracks:

- Intro
- Arise
--
- Desperate Cry
- Dead Embryonic Cells
- Mass Hypnosis
- Altered State
- Inner Self
- Escape to the Void
- Troops of Doom
- Beneath the Remains
- Orgasmatron

Each one of these compositions is delivered with the fury and 
aggression that makes Sepultura great.

Also, between songs they have documentary style interviews and 
clips which tell about the history of the band.  They are amusing
at times, and give good info about the people that make up
Sepultura and also info about what life is like in Brazil.

If you are a Sepultura fan you will love this video.

Drifter


>
From: jmalcolm@sura.net (Joseph Malcolm)
Subject: Carcass
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:08:46 GMT

Does anyone know what's up with Carcass? I really enjoyed "Necroticism -
Descanting the Insalubrious", and the "Tools of the Trade" EP
was cool as well.

New album, maybe? (I wish.)

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From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Sepultura & MTV
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 21:25:38 GMT

In article <23JAN199315172125@zeus.tamu.edu> dlm4731@zeus.tamu.edu (MAREK, DAVID LESLIE) writes:
>In article <C19v2v.FKv@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man ) writes...
>>jfmburg@cs.vu.nl (JFM Burg) writes:
>


 Rick Rat said that Sep was never gettin' any airplay
>on MTV again...

That's funny, when I periodically watch MTV for that triple thrash threat I 
never see Sepultura at all. The only way I heard about them was from reading
a French magazine Hard Rock Magazine and they mentioned Roadracer's "Best of
1989 featuring Mucky Pup, Obituary and Sepultura." Then when I came to
Columbia a friend of my roommate's played for me some samples of ARISE.

wei hao



Wei Hao Wang                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"Where would we be without the ability to let our minds wander? And where could
 we go if our emotions were submerged down under our souls? Their master
 control plan will fail as the young minds prevail in pure genetic wisom."
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From: m38853v@saha.hut.fi (Matti Varis)
Subject: Re: judas priest
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 11:31:07 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.210256.2240@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>In article <00966E59.27AEA4E0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:

>>(Exciter is a song on the album).  Also, for whatever it is worth,
>>their early cover art was much more interesting than their later comic-book
>>style album covers, such as Screaming for vengeanbce etc.  Eric M.
>
>The chessy comic book covers seems to be only on US prints because when I
>wen to England a few years ago I remember much cooler looking covers for
>POINT OF ENTRY and TURBO so I assume covers looked better in between as

I haven't found Turbo and Point Of Entry on two different covers yet.
But recently I spotted Rocka Rolla with a weird cover: it had a picture
of a cork of coca-cola bottle, with the text Coca-Cola replaced with 
Rocka-Rolla. Is this the original cover? 

I also have Sad Wings Of Destiny on green vinyl. Is there any vinylophiles
out there who would know if this is rare?

Yeah, I know the times are bad
When it's hard to run, nowhere to hide
All I got left is a bread and a bottle of wine
And I'm feeling fine...(Masters Of Reality/Gettin' High)
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From: Belushi <affouj@rpi.edu>
Subject: METALLICA DIGEST - here's the address
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:32:30 GMT

Hey - want to be part of the fastest growing digest on the net ?  Here's the
address for the weekly Metallica digest:


mail subscription requests to : affouj@rpi.edu
with a subject of ADD ME

l8r..


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From: raj@zx.qsp.UUCP (Raj Dosaj)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Which Judas Priest to get?
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:21:54 GMT
Organization: Quality Software Products, LA, CA

There are two Judas Priest albums that are a must to own.  One is 
British Steel and the other is Unleashed in the East.  Unleashed
is the live album with a great sampling of their older stuff
(Green Manolishi, The Ripper, Diamonds and Rust, etc.).  This album
is a must to own if you truly think you are a Judas Priest fan.
Point of Entry and Screaming for Vengeance are also excellent albums.
Every album after that pales in comparison.  All this PainKiller shit
and whatever they released after Screaming marked the end of Judas
( the Sentinel wasn't bad).  Take it for what it's worth, but
Unleashed in the East has it all, and the sound for a live recording
is amazing, one of the best live albums ever.

-Raj
raj@qsp.com
From: J.A.Needham@daresbury.ac.uk (J.A. Needham)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Six and Violence
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:15:22 GMT
Organization: SERC Daresbury Lab., Warrington, U.K.

Anyone know if the Six and Violence have done any other albums apart from
"Lettuce Prey"??  Are they still an active band??

Cheers.   Jim.
From: 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Carcass/Cathedral
Date: 24 Jan 1993 00:59:05 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
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In article <1993Jan23.225603.12044@selway.umt.edu>, sh666@selway.umt.edu (Dave) writes:
>Well I finally went out and bought soom 'doom metal' (or whatever you
>want to call it).  Some of the music on Forest of Equilibrium is great!
>Its that damn annoying voice that the lead singer uses that sometimes
>ruins their songs..
>
>As for Carcass.. just the CD cover alone was worth the money!
>(Symphonies of Sickness).  Their lyrics are absolutely hilarious
>and the music isn't all that bad.
>
>Why did I post this?  Still haven't figured that out myself...
>
>							Dave
Interesting you mention the "singer" on Cathedral.  A friend of mine whose
into heavy alternative stuff (Big Black, Jesus Lizard, etc.) says he would
really enjoy a lot of the more obscure death/doom stuff if they didn't all
use this gimmicky groan singing style.  I sort of agree; if one or two bands
did it as a trademork, that would be cool, but the overuse of it (even if
it does differ slightly from group to group) does make it into a gimmick.
That's why I'm more into old Trouble as far as doom metal goes, though all
in all I still like a lot of bands like Cathedral and such.  Just as a bit
of trivia, does anyone know which group(s) started this groaning thing as a
pantented sound?  I've always assumed it caught on because of the intro of
Iron Man, but which bands started relying on it almost exclusively for their
vocals?  Eric M.>
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From: leifmk@Lise.Unit.NO (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y)
Subject: Re: At Death's Door II: review
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 14:00:19 GMT

In article <93024.190825JXH107@psuvm.psu.edu>, Jeff Hochberg <JXH107@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
 
 > 
 > Fear Factory: "Martyr" (From their incredible album SOUL OF A NEW MACHINE)
 > 
 >   The first time I heard these guys, my jaw dropped. If you've never heard 'em
 > before, picture a cross between Napalm Death and Ministry and you've got some
 > idea of their overall sound: brutal death/thrash with some industrial elements
 > mixed in (like distorted vocals, etc). "Martyr" is an excellent track from
 > their highly recommended album. I like the juxtaposition between "SUFFER!!!
 > BASTARD!!! as it's screamed as opposed to "Sufferrrr... Bastarrrd..." as it's
 > gently sung. Pretty cool. Although if *I* were compiling the album, I'd
 > include the song "Crash Test" instead.

Allah & Cthulhu, YES!  I discovered these guys during the xmas break, got their
album.  They are absolutely amazing.  Does anyone out there in net.land have 
any more info on them?

-Leif Kj|nn|y
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From: gtd543a@sol.crt.columbia.edu (death)
Subject: Re: Anthrax roofless
Organization: Purgatory
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 16:26:27 GMT
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Thomas Wolmer (d90-two@niger.nada.kth.se) wrote:
: Anthrax continues to experience problems while they're recording albums.
: While recording POT the studio was burnt down; now the roof fell in while
: John Bush was doing the vocals for the new album. No one hurt though.

Is the new album going to continue to slow down?  Personally, I thought
P.O.T. blew goats...  
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From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: Maiden live album/Anthrax new album
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:59:06 GMT

>I must disagree with article 4124

Argrrhghghh.  Article numbers are different at every site.  Quoting the number
at yours is pointless.


>when the author states that Bruce wasn't
>into the Fear of the Dark tour.

I said that he wasn't AT THE SHOW THAT I SAW.

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From: mucds@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Corey D. Stinson)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Mr. Bungle - who are they?
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:36:22 GMT
Organization: Educational Computing Network
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    I was reading the trak list of the back of a Mr. Bungle CD the 
other day, and the song names were pretty funky!  Who is this band,
and how heavy are they?  Never seen a video or anything for them,
just curious to grab some opinions!
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From: mcampbel@cs.ucf.edu (Mike Campbell )
Subject: Re: Savatage
Organization: University of Central Florida
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 13:40:33 GMT

jlb@tpg.tpg.oz.au (John Butcher) writes:


>Does anyone have any news on Savatage ?
>The last I heard, their singer Jon Oliva was going to quit as their singer, but
>still be involved with writing material: Is this correct, if so, is there a
>replacement, do the band still exist etc etc....

They're a florida band, as you know, and a few months ago, there was a show
heralded as their absolute last one.  It was here in Tampa/St Pete area.

It would seem they are no more, but I can neither confirm nor deny that.
From: schandr@eos.ncsu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: "Phantom Of The Opera" off the first Iron Maiden album
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:43:35 GMT
Reply-To: schandr@eos.ncsu.edu
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Originator: schandr@c00562-1403br.eos.ncsu.edu


In article <1993Jan25.163330.12200@news.columbia.edu>, pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:

>
>BTW, do they still play "Phantom"? That's my favorite Maiden song and it would
>kind of disappoint me if I saw them and they didn't play it, because I already
>missed Killers and maybe they also play it sometimes. If they do, does 'Arry
>or Jannick Gers or both do backing vocals? Not that either was as good a singer
>as Adrian, but some of their stuff seems like it wouldn't sound as good w/out
>the backing vocals (like "Aces High," "The Trooper," etc.) 
>
>wei hao
>
>
>
>Wang Wei Hao                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
>"I have loved, I have lost, I have killed those who have loved me so. I have 
> learned, but at what cost, Lord, I don't know... I'm living on borrowed time"
>                       - Diamond Head, "Living On Borrowed Time"
>

Whenever I've seen 'em they haven't played "Phantom".  When Killers came here,
Paul Di'anno came up to the radio station and in an interview promised that
they would play "Phantom" that evening.  However, at the gig they did not 
play it.  They were having some technical difficulties, maybe that was the
reason.  In all Maiden concert reviews that I've seen, I haven't seen "Phantom"
in the track list since the World Slavery Tour.  Has anybody heard them
play Phantom on a tour after the World Slavery Tour??

Drifter
From: clive@snoopy.Aus.Sun.COM (Clive Blackmore - IR Australia)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Kingdom come
Date: 25 Jan 1993 00:10:51 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: clive@snoopy.Aus.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: snoopy.aus.sun.com

Well, I am sitting here listening to Kingdon Come's album "Hands Of Time". Well this appears to be more like  a Lenny Wolf solo CD or are the people listed actually in the band ? 

I have 2 others by KC, Kingdom Come and In Your Face, being a Zeppelin Fan, I still cannot see the why people think they are like Zeppelin. Other people may think they are but I do not see/hear it.

What did happen to the former members ?

Clive
PS All IMHO

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From: esutn@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr P M McFadian)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Kingdom come
Date: 22 Jan 1993 15:53:19 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
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	Does anyone know what has happened to the former members
	of Kingdom come.Are any of them in new bands etc.

	Phil
From: mpearson@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Matthew Pearson)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Mr. Bungle - who are they?
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:20:24 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA

In article <1k6dm6INNdlf@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> mucds@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Corey D. Stinson) writes:
>    I was reading the trak list of the back of a Mr. Bungle CD the 
>other day, and the song names were pretty funky!  Who is this band,
>and how heavy are they?  Never seen a video or anything for them,
>just curious to grab some opinions!

Well the lead singer is the very same lead singer for Faith No More...

They are WEIRD.. but cool...  listen to squeeze-me-macaroni and you'll
see what I mean..

Warlord
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From: jmalcolm@sura.net (Joseph Malcolm)
Subject: Re: Carcass
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:44:18 GMT

In article <C1Eon2.F2n@compsci.liverpool.ac.uk> scst154@csc.liv.ac.uk (Mr. P.S. Craig) writes:
>They're writing new stuff now and should start recording the new album
>in the coming months.

Excellent.

>If you liked 'Necroticism' and 'tools' have you heard the first two
>albums 'reek of putrefaction' and 'symphonies of sickness'. 'Reek' is
>a bit flakey compared to the later stuff, but interesting nontheless.

I have "Symphonies of Sickness", but haven't listened to it much.  The
better production on N-DtI definitely helps.

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From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: Black Sabbath who is vocalist?
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 17:27:22 GMT

>Dio probably doesnt need Black Sab. 
>The man's a living powerhou (though he's mellowed now)

I'll bet that he didn't make much from Lock Up the Wolves or Dream Evil.
Judging from the miserable venue Dio/Sabbath played in Dallas a couple of
months ago, neither's probably making much these days.  They only played Sabbath
tunes 8^(

My position on the Dio/Ozzy war:

Two things can be Different without one being Better.  The latter Sabbath
albums with Ozzy (NSD, TE) aren't blockbusters like the earlier stuff, but
I find them at least listenable.


Born Again:  I recently *finally* found this on a CD, and the songs didn't
sound nearly as good as I'd remembered them from when they came out.

Heaven & Hell/Mob Rules:  I pretty much love all of both albums.

The random stuff after that:  Seventh Cross, Headless Tyres, whatever.  I have
a copy of The Eternal Idol that I never listen to.  The vocalist-of-the-day
is too obviously trying to mimic Dio.

Dehumanizer:  haven't heard it yet, but the cover art is really stupid.

Elf:  have an album or two; haven't heard them.  Looking for canonical import
 CD's.

Rainbow:  Love all the Dio stuff.  The Bonnet album is okay; the JLT stuff
 makes me want to vomit.

Dio:  the first two were great, although I wish Dio wouldn't have been so fond
 of always doing Stand Up and Shout and Straight Through the Heart live.

Pre-Elf Dio:  I'm still not sure how to react to "I Left my Heart in San
 Francisco".
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From: d90-two@du.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer)
Subject: Re: more doom metal
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:54:10 GMT

In article <C1HI9L.Mvw@news.cso.uiuc.edu> djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man ) writes:
>arnoud@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Arnoud Helmantel) writes:
>
>>There is only ONE little problem for people who haven't got the EP yet.... It
>>was a limited editon so it's rather hard to get by....
>> 
> Yer kidding?  I see this everywhere I go....everywhere.  Is this really
> limited ed?

The thing is that the EP is mainly for the Americans, us Europeans are supposed
to buy the _Gods Of Grind_ compilation instead. The EP was relesed here too,
but I think Mjo... eh, Arnoud was right, it's just a limited edition.
However, both the EP and GoG can be found here in Stockholm...

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From: cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRIS MICH GEORGOULIAS)
Subject: Re: Hellstar
Originator: cmgeorg@c00551-1403br.eos.ncsu.edu
Keywords: hellstar
Reply-To: cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRIS MICH GEORGOULIAS)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:46:31 GMT


In article <C161x9.1p6@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jbbg0390@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Flash..ahhh! Savior of the Universe!  ) writes:
|>
|>A friend of mine is looking for any CD's of the group Hellstar...Does anyone
|>out there know about this group or where I can obtain the CD's?  My friend (
|>who doesn't have a net account) is particularly interested in the Nosfuratu
|>disk of theirs.

I could swear that I saw the Nosferatu disc in the Camelot sale bins for
$2.88.

Everybody needs to go to your local Camelot.  There are quite a few metal discs
in the $1.44 - $3.88 range.  A giveaway if you ask me.  Personally I have found
that the $1.44 tags peel off nicely and you can get ALL you CD's for $1.44, but
that's up to you.

-chris

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 +     cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu                                                  +
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 +  ...I just don't care!"                                                   +
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From: venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Wehrmacht
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:14:22 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

Wehrmaht.

A friend of mine (lives in Moscow now) taped me 2 albums of WEHRMAHT:
BIERMACHT and SHARK ATTACK

I dunno how to discribe the music.Well vocal is high, like dude from
Vio-Lence.Guitar is very thrashing.But fuck drummer works exactly like dude
from Napalm Death, he even puts more grind in it.I can't really call it
GRINDCORE cuz of high vox, but instrumental parts are just identical to 
HARMONY CORRUPTION... Anyone else has heard of these guys?
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