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From: SHIMOKOSHI@129.69.123.1 (K. SHIMOKOSHI)
Subject: Re: best shots in tennis
Organization: University of Stuttgart, IND
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 12:39:11 GMT
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In <1992Aug14.095922.11046@cicb.fr> moisan@cicb.fr writes:
> 
> Among the men ---> 
>    Serve:  Most dangerous -- Goran Ivanisevic
>            Most versatile -- Henri Leconte 
>    Best volleys  : Cash (when he plays)-Edberg 
>    Best forehand : Courier  
>    Best backhand : Edberg 
>    Best lobber   : Wilander-Chang 
>    Best overhead : Becker
>    Best drop shot: Leconte 
>    Best drop volley: Mc Enroe-Edberg 
>    Fastest mover : Chang 
>    Best return of serve : Agassi 
> 
> I think my choices are not bad ... what do you think about that ?


My opinions are ...

     -- Men --                                            -- Women --

  Goran Ivanisevic                Best 1st Serve        Steffi Graf
  Stefan Edberg                   Best 2nd Serve        Martina Navratilova
  Stefan Edberg, John McEnroe     Best Volleys          Martina Navratilova
  Andre Agassi, Jim Courie        Best Forehand         Steffi Graf
  Andre Agassi, Stefan Edberg     Best Backhand         Monica Seles
  M. Wilander                     Best Lobbing          Gabriera Sabatini
  Stefan Edberg                   Best Overhead         Martina Navratilova
  Michael Stich                   Best Drop-shot        Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario
  John McEnroe                    Best Drop-volley      Martina Navratilova
  Michael Chang                   Fastest Mover         Steffi Graf
  Andre Agassi                    Best Returner         Monica Seles
       
And

  Andre Agassi                 Best Stroke Player       Monica Seles
  John McEnroe                 Best Volley Player       Martina Navratilova
  Stefan Edberg                Best All-round Player    Steffi Graf


Humm...., no Boris Becker and no Pete Sampras...


K.Shimokoshi
Univ. of Stuttgart, Germany
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
From: gautam@engin.umich.edu (Gautam Singh Grover )
Subject: Widebodies
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 11:02:23 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: na

This is to all tennis buffs out there: what exactly is the 
advantage of using a widebody over a conventional racquet ?  

I keep having the problem of string breakage - have broken strings
on two racquets about 4 times over the past couple of months. I am
not exactly a Becker or something, so the reason for this puzzles
me. Can the way  you play actually affect this?
Finally, what are the things to look for when buying a tennis 
racquet.

Any replies will be appreciated

Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
From: m14430@mwunix.mitre.org (Lawrence Larson)
Subject: Re: Racket thrasher needs help!
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: rec.sport.tennis
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:40:37 GMT

cscomp@rabbit.inesc.pt (Area do CSC) writes:

>  for the last 2 ,3 years I've been playing more often, and my
>  temper is taking its financial toll, I just killed my third
>  racket ( a 6 month old racket :-( ), and really need help 
>  controlling my temper !! (I can outo any of Mcenroe's tantrums :-) )

>  So my main question is:

>     What can I do to control my temper and stay focused on the game 
>        after a BAD BAD error ?

Two possibly immediately effective solutions leap to mind:

1) Grow up. It's a game, and one in which you must lose in order to get
better. It's not life and death.

2) Pick the best, biggest, and nastiest opponent you can find. When you
throw your baby tantrum, he'll beat the crap out of you, and you can
proceed to either give up the game or learn 1) above.

Actually, I *love* playing folks like this. Their tempers are just fuel
for the competitive fire...

-- Larry

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From: jlim@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Jimmy Lim)
Subject: Future French contender
Keywords: Andrei Medvedev
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 04:20:03 GMT

Anyone notice his recent surge in the rankings. I believe he is one of
the most talented clay courters in the Tour and would be a erious
contender for the French Open. He is definetly going to be in the French
semi-finals in 1993!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: palmer@uvmark.uucp (Filaman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Question for experienced stringers!!
Keywords: Stringing, help
Date: 17 Aug 92 13:27:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvmark.1992Aug17.132752.6494
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article <yogi.714022259@coombs> yogi@coombs.anu.edu.au (Michael Hanslip) writes:
>I have  a AG Guterman table top with 6 point mounting-i.e. it holds the ends
>of the racquet with threaded posts and has 4 side posts that prevent the 
>frame from spreading. I always tighten the end posts to stretch the frame
>slightely length wise and then tighten the outer posts to the edge of the 
>frame and just a bit more to push gently on the frame perimeter.
>I feel that it strings tighter than 'normal' because when I was playing
>badminton over winter, my racquets (set at 17-19 lbs each time) seemed as
>tight as other people's done at 21-23. When I did a racquet a few weeks ago
>at 70, he commented that it seemed really tight when I handed it back.
>With a drop weight system like I've got, I don't know how it could be too
>far off normal, but maybe it is time to buy a tension calibrator, huh?

You should have a calibrator, but it's possible that other stringers in
your area need theirs calibrated. If your tension is off, it's most
certainly lower, not higher. With this in mind, the frame was probably
weak before you attempted to string it. With older frames, I always check
for small cracks in the frame and tell the customer that it may not withstand
another stringing.

>BTW, I tried to EMail this to you direct, oh FILAMAN, and got it back from
>the network as undeliverable....so must resort to posted replies to r.s.t
>I guess.
>
>Michael Hanslip.

Others are having the same problem, I'll have to look into it. What address
did you use?
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From: eddie@fraser.sfu.ca (Eddie Hilton Wong)
Subject: Recycling tennis balls?
Summary: Do any companies recycle tennis balls?
Keywords: recycling tennis balls
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:03:27 GMT

Does anybody know if any companies out there recycle used tennis
balls?  I think it's very wasteful throwing away dead balls and
as a result, I have lots of old cans sitting in my room.

If anybody has any ideas, drop me a line at eddie@sfu.ca

Thanks,

Eddie 
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From: prakash@cs.mcgill.ca (Prakash Panangaden)
Subject: Re: GETTING READY FOR U.S OPEN ***
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:30:17 GMT

In article <l98glsINNd0@news.bbn.com> adolce@bbn.com (Anne Dolce) writes:
>  I thought Steffi Graf pulled out of the Canadian Open
>  this week because of a shoulder injury.  What gives??
>
>  Was she actually entered into that tournament in the
>  first place?  If not, then this potentially aggravated
>  soul bought tickets based on false advertising and wants
>  her $$$$ back!!!
>

Yes she was officially entered in the Canadian Open.  She claimed that
she had tendinitis and could not play and the organizers had to pay big
bucks to get Monica Seles to play here instead.  She (Steffi)
reportedly also said that if Monica could not be persuaded to play
that she would show up.  I must say that I am quite disappointed to
hear that she is actually practicing hard and thus clearly not as
injured as she claimed.  The advertising for the Canadain Open is
outrageous.  They have a poster showing pictures of Martina, Capriati,
Steffi and Gabriela; none of when are playing!  Martina and Steffi did
sign up but pulled out.  Capriati had only verbally agreed to come
here and Sabatini never intended to come to Montreal.
From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Info wanted on the Prince CTS Blast raquet?
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:23:54 GMT
Reply-To: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin)
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park

In article <1992Aug17.141149.4701@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>, rivera_edgardo@macmail1.rtsg.mot.com writes:
> 
> I would like to know more about the Prince CTS Blast mid-plus raquet?  In terms
> of vibration control, performance on the court, power, weight, etc.
> 

   This racquet should be discontinued.  That means you can get it
quite inexpensively.  I have seen it for 60 dollars and the
racquet used to go three times that much (about).

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu
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From: clc5q@hemlock.cs.Virginia.EDU (Clark L. Coleman)
Subject: Re: Weekend Results
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:47:07 GMT

In article <l8v6dtINN5jq@news.bbn.com> adolce@bbn.com (Anne Dolce) writes:
>
>  * The men are playing this week in New Haven, CT.  The field
>    includes Korda (defending champ), John McEnroe, Edberg, Chang, 
>    and Lendl.  Agassi has withdrawn from the tournament because 
>    of a throat infection.

Let's don't forget the GTE Hardcourt Championships in Indianapolis,
a tournament of the same size and prize money as the New Haven
tournament.  The top players not listed above are generally going
to be in Indianapolis: Pete Sampras, Guy Forget, Boris Becker, and
I believe Michael Stich.  Ivanisevic was the losing finalist at
New Haven last year -- is he back there this year? Courier will be
at Indianapolis.

I noticed that Lendl is back up to #7 now, and will be #6 or #5 after
the New Haven tournament this week. Boom Boom is down to #9 now.
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From: adolce@bbn.com (Anne Dolce)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Olympic Men's Singles Champ??
Date: 14 Aug 92 11:13:19 GMT
Organization: Bolt, Beranek & Newman, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: spcsun24.bbn.com

In article <1992Aug13.203417.696@access.usask.ca>, srikant@skorpio.usask.ca (Srikant Subramaniam) writes:
|> Could somebody tell me who is the mens olympic champ?


   Marc Rosset defeated Jordi Arrese in 5 sets.
   I think the 5th set was 8-6.

Anne
----
From: conjurer@diku.dk (Morten Augustesen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Buying tennis-strings.
Date: 19 Aug 92 08:44:14 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

I'm interested in buying tennis-strings (16 gauge or so). It is quite important
that they are quite durable and not to expensive, because the ones I'm using 
right now, only lasts 6-8 hours. I'm using Suffix Toplon I gauge 18.
Could anyone give me some tips about a suitable brand, the price and an address
where I can buy it.
I live in Denmark - so I'm looking for delivery by mail.

Greetings from
  Morten Augustesen
  University of Copenhagen.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:21:08 EDT
From: <HV0@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject:    ATP top 10


  1. Courier      3553
  2. Edberg       3263
  3. Sampras      2864
  4. Chang        2147
  5. Ivanisvich   2120
  6. Agassi       1889
  7. Lendle       1882
  8. Korda        1860
  9. Becker       1751
 10. Stich        1699


                           HV0@psuvm.psu.edu
From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Gold, Siver, Bronze/2
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:48:17 GMT
Reply-To: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin)
Distribution: usa
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park

In article <63900@cup.portal.com>, gb@cup.portal.com (Greg A Buechler) writes:
> It's been a long time (10yrs) since I played a tournament so, my question is
> that don't they always give third place to the losers of the semis?  Or, do
> they play another match.  If they do, then wouldn't the quarterfinalist 
> losers also have to play more matches?  Seems to me that awarding two Bronze
> metals is correct.

  It actually depends.   The volleyball, water polo, and basketball
events all had the semifinal losers playing each other, and the
winner getting a bronze.  The whole problem is that, in single
elimination, it's easy to determine the gold and silver.  The
person who won the whole event (or the team) would get gold, and
the runner-up would get silver.   However, who should get bronze?
Since both semifinalists would have lost to the finalists, if
one has to award a single bronze, then it makes sense to have
the semifinalists play each other, and whoever wins would be
considered third best.  Quarterfinalists would, at best, place
fifth.   Normally, in terms of prize money,  the semifinal
losers get equal pay.

   I think they probably modelled the tennis award after the
table tennis which also awards two bronze medals for semifinalists.
I don't recall when table tennis was a medal sport, though.

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu
From: dascalos@eve.wright.edu (Andre Agassi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: faux pas on last post
Keywords: Faux pas
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:35:55 GMT
Organization: Wright State University

Previously I reported Chesnokov was replaced by lucky loser Grant
Connell whereas he was actually replaced by lucky loser Robbie Koenig.
My mistake and I promise it will never happen again.  By the way, I am
heading down to the ATP again tonight to see Jim Courier play
qualifier Richard Schmidt and David Whaton play Cherkasov.  Also an
interesting match, Davis/Pate take on Agassi/Gilbert.  I definitely
prefer going to day sessions as opposed to night sessions.  Seems like
the day sessions are much less crowded and there is a lot more tennis.
Since I graduated last December and landed a real job I haven't been
able to go to the weekday day sessions and I hate it.  Oh well, at
least I don't have to jump the fence to get in anymore.  If anyone has
a programming job in the Dayton/Cincinnati that doesn't mind me taking
off to go to tennis day sessions hire me.  Preferably a company with
courtside boxseats.  Later



--
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   Chuck Dascalos             Department of Computer Science and Engineering
   Wright State University    Email:dascalos@eve.wright.edu 
   Dayton, OH                 
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From: kim%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Kwansik Kim)
Subject: Re: Widebodies
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:05:33 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
Distribution: na

In article <1992Aug13.203040.4492@src.umd.edu> clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin) writes:
>In article <Rtb-X4#@engin.umich.edu>, gautam@engin.umich.edu (Gautam Singh Grover ) writes:
>> This is to all tennis buffs out there: what exactly is the 
>> advantage of using a widebody over a conventional racquet ?  
>> 
>
>   The main advantage is power.  At least, that's the selling
>point of widebodies.  After the oversized racquets (and
>other larger models) became popular in the early eighties,
>people were looking for some new innovation that would
>again capture the public's interest, and widebodies
>seem to be it.
>
>   I suppose by mkaing widebodies, you get more stability,
>thought I'm not sure why this seems to give you more
>power.   I can understand why it might provide less twist
>and even why it is stiffer,  but the power aspect seems
>to baffle me a little.  They do hit a bit harder, though
>not necessarily without giving up a little control.
>
>  To me, the disadvantages are that some of them feel
>a bit TOO stiff, and feel "wide" and ungainly.  Esp.
>some of those really wide Wilson's.   Other people who
>play with spin games complain about hitting the edge which
>protrudes quite a bit on widebodies.  
>
>--
>Charles Lin
>clin@eng.umd.edu

Both oversize and widebodies seem to give help more to the
recreational players. 

Kwansik

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From: hari@robios.me.wisc.edu (Kambainathan Hari)
Subject: Re: Request for USTA address and phone #.
Organization: U. Wisconsin-Madison, Robotics Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:10:23
In-reply-to: mayalama@cisa.cis.uab.edu's message of 12 Aug 92 21:27:10 GMT

Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
From: lml@vision.ummed.edu (Lawrence Mark Lifshitz)
Subject: children's rackets?
Organization: University of Massachusetts Medical Center
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:10:25 GMT


My nephew is 7 years old and has expressed an interest
in tennis.  Does anyone have recommendations for a
children's racket?  I vaguely remember some sort
of graduated length series of rackets for children,
is my memory correct?
From: jdd@engr.ucf.edu (Joseph Dumas)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: best shots in tennis
Keywords: Courier, Mac
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:50:31 GMT
Organization: engineering, University of Central Florida, Orlando

moisan@cicb.fr (Herve Moisan -  stagiaire CICB) writes:
>
>   Best volleys  : Cash (when he plays)-Edberg 
>
I think Mac's volleys are still as good as anyone's.  (And I'm not even
a fan of his....)  The problem is, the rest of his game is not what it
used to be.  Look at the fun Agassi had with his serve at Wimbledon.
His groundstrokes aren't much to be feared either.  But he can still
volley with the best of them.

>   Best forehand : Courier 
>
At last, a vote for my fellow Floridian.  (OK, I'm not originally from
here.)  Wonder if my earlier post regarding his consistency/toughness
had any effect on the net?

Least likely to choke in a tough match:  Courier

Most baffling guts/choke ratio:  Ivanesevic, who nails a second serve
ace on the centerline *down* set point in the first set tiebraeker of
the Wimbledon final, then, serving to stay in the match, his first 5
serves are faults....  You live by the sword, you die by the sword, I
guess....

>   Best drop volley: Mc Enroe-Edberg 
>
Ah, there's Mac...

>   Best return of serve : Agassi 

No doubt, especially after Wimbledon.  If you can return serve that well
on grass, you can do it anywhere.

Joe
-- 
--->  Joe is jdd@engr.ucf.edu (Joseph Dumas):  "Cats are snooty and wouldn't
fetch a stick on a bet.  They also scratch.  I dislike cats....  I like dogs
because they forgive easily...and will settle for thirty seconds of care and
attention if that is all you have to spare."  --Lewis Grizzard
From: graham@maths.su.oz.au (Graham Matthews)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Soliciting racquet opinions...
Keywords: racquets, buying, opinions
Date: 21 Aug 92 12:07:28 GMT
Organization: School of Mathematics and Statistics, University of Sydney

(Michael Hanslip) writes:
>Anyone out there that uses one of these racquets and has an opinion,please
>post or Email. While there may be no substitute for trying before you buy,
>not all of these are available here for demo, and opinions are good to 
>have too.
>BTW, anyone in Eastern Australia want to buy a Thunderstick with low mileage.?.
>Cheers,
>Michael Hanslip.

Michael have you tried a Max 200 G? It will feel funny for a little
bit, but then they play beautifully. Nice mix of power and feel. Good
for an all court game I think.

graham
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From: steven@si30.b30.ingr.com (Steven Skibinski)
Subject: Re: Widebodies
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:28:18 GMT


You need to get a copy of Tennis magazine (March issue).
This is the issue that they review the new racquets.  They
do a good job of addressing all your issues.

As far as your strings breaking... I find a new pro shop.

-- 
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INTERGRAPH CORPORATION         |If you do something wrong,
Huntsville, Alabama            |    you're fired.
Systems Integration            |If you do something right,
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From: clc5q@hemlock.cs.Virginia.EDU (Clark L. Coleman)
Subject: Re: Best shots in tennis
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:41:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.035214.4736@src.umd.edu> clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin) writes:
>
>   Best drop shot  John McEnroe
>
>......   Few folks drop shot, so Mac is an easy choice.
>Others might be Leconte, Gene Mayer, and Jonas Svensson.

Gene Mayer is retired, isn't he?

Anyway, Michael Stich has the best drop shot in tennis. His match against
Andrei Chesnokov at this year's Indian Wells tournament was amazing. I can't
stand Stich, and I was glad to see Chesnokov come back to win that match
(semi or final, can't remember.)  But Stich was hitting one drop shot after
another that Chesnokov could not get a racket on before the second bounce.
And Chesnokov is a real retriever who can cover the court. Stich also made
some great drop shots in the last 2 French Opens.

Agassi also has an excellent drop shot.  As for McEnroe, I remember more
drop volleys from him lately than drop shots. Don't remember his earlier
career quite so vividly.

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From: yogi@coombs.anu.edu.au (Michael Hanslip)
Subject: Re: strings
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
Date: 13 Aug 92 10:07:07 GMT

roberto@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (roberto) writes:

>Filaman (palmer@uvmark.uucp) writes:

>| In article <63783@cup.portal.com> gb@cup.portal.com (Greg A Buechler) writes:
>|
>| >       The thicker the strings are increases wearability.  Instead of getting

>Even though the second is less general, it doesn't take into account factors 
>such for example tension and type of the strings. 

>So I ask:

>1) How does the tension relates to how long strings last?

To put in my thoughts as a racquet stringer and squash/tennis player...

 On the high end of the tension range, the strings cut into each other and
soon break at the nicks. On the low end of the tension range, the strings 
move SO much that they break off, either by sawing each other if they are rough,
or I think they break against the edge of the racquet in my Hammer Squash
racquets with the smooth strings. 
I will say this applies within my experiences of using only fine gauge
synthetic guts for both games.

>2) On which assumptions are these 30 hours based?
>  
As to this, I find that I rarely can use the string after 26-34 hours even
if I don't break it-by then it has stretched out about 10% of its tension.
New string feels so much better that sometimes I will redo the set of my own 
racquets for a tournament only for feel-not because I am worried about 
breaking a string. So I'd say 30 hours is based on the tension lifespans of
synth guts.

Michael Hanslip.