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From: colins@praxis.co.uk (Colin Shield)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Newcastle the record breakers?
Date: 7 Oct 92 12:23:19 GMT
Organization: Praxis, Warwick, U.K.

I remember a posting last week from mphillip asking what the current
record start to a season is, saying as Newcaslte are doing so well.
Well, the current record is with Reading who, in the 1985/86 season,
started by winning 13 games in a row. They went on to win the 3rd Div.
championship.
As I'm sure you all know Newcastle currently have 9 wins to their
credit. There are some odds flying around at the bookies for Newcastle
to do well (these are before Sunday's win at Brentford):

100/1 Unbeaten all season
20/1  beat record
5/4   Win Div. 1

And one more thing. GOD, IT FEELS GOOD TO BE WINNING!!!!!!!!

Colin Shield
Date: Sunday, 11 Oct 1992 15:11:33 CET
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Latvia round 16 (?) and 17
Organization: RISC, J.K. University, Linz; Austria
From: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Karel Stokkermans)

Round 16 (or any previous number :-(
RAF           4-0 Dilar
Daugava       6-1 Start
Torpedo       1-6 VEF
Daugavpils    0-2 Pardaugava
Gauja         3-1 Olimpia
Vairogs       Ppd Skonto
>
Round 17
Daugava       1-0 Olimpia     (previously posted as round 16 result)
Torpedo       2-2 Pardaugava  (                idem                )
Daugavpils    Ppd Skonto
Vairogs       0-2 RAF
Start         2-5 VEF
Gauja         3-1 Dilar
>
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From: laag@solan.unit.no (Steinar L}g)
Subject: San Marino-Norway
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 10:32:01 GMT

A short (and biased) match-report:

San Marino-Norway 0-2 (0-2)

0-1 Mini Jakobsen (7)
0-2 Jostein Flo (19)

A win for Norway due to fine headers from Mini and Flo-Jo.
This is the only positive statement I can make about this match.
San Marino played the most destructive football I have ever seen. 
It was more like wrestling than football, and the weak referee (Anseutegui,
Spain I think) neglected almost every vilolent attack on the Norwegian players.
Flo should have had at least two penalties, after being kicked down by the 
San Marino defense.
Norway lacked energy and creativity to break through the defense, and we shall
be very happy that we got these two early goals.
After all Norway came out of this with two points, and still has a 100% record.
I hope for better football at Wembley next week. Watch out, England!!
Squad and line-up will be posted later.

Steinar

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From: MACKINON@BROWNVM.brown.edu (Sandy Mackinnon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: International Liverpool ??
Date: 14 Oct 1992 17:19:02 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu



Can you answer this one Big D.  ?    How come the UK national  teams
arent exactly brimming  with Liverpool players this week ?? :-)

sandy Mackinnon
abuse to cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
From: andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa)
Subject: US Saudia Arabia Result
Organization: GTE Contel Federal Systems
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:08:27 GMT


Saudi Arabia 3  US 0

All goals came in the second half.  Thats all I know.

Andy B (too many Andy's on the net nowadays)
From: tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tim Chown)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: English News: bits and pieces
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:03:27 GMT

Arsenal striker Ian Wright is set to be cleared of yet another charge that he
made rude gestures to rival fans.  The FA may now wonder whether the
England star is the victim of dirty tricksters after the latest complaint
during Arsenal's 2-1 win over Chelsea.  "This appears, once again, to be a
malicious attack on Ian Wright," said his agent Jerome Anderson, after
Chelsea fans reported him to the police. The police will study a video of the
match but first indications are that no gestures can be found on it.

Southampton have offered England B winger Matt Le Tissier a new contract
amid growing speculation that Aston Villa, Everton, Liverpool and Tottenham
are chasing the Channel Islander.

Wembley will host the final of the Anglo-Italian Cup on March 27.

Gordon Durie's misconduct case has been re-arranged by the FA for Friday,
October 16.  The Tottenham striker is alleged to
have feigned being headbutted by Coventry defender Andy Pearce.

Leeds striker Eric Cantona has been recalled to the French squad for the
World Cup qualifier against Austria.

Sheffield United are up for sale after the club's holding company Else 1982
Ltd announced it was selling 62% of the club's shares with a price tag of #3m.

HFS LOANS LEAGUE Premier Division

Hyde             3-1 Fleetwood
Date: Wednesday, 14 Oct 1992 10:14:38 CET
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Holland - Poland
Organization: RISC, J.K. University, Linz; Austria
From: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Karel Stokkermans)

31mianowski@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>In article <19921013.154426941986.NETNEWS@ALIJKU11>, kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Karel Stokkermans) writes:
>> bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring) writes:
>>>Here the expected Dutch lineup for the game against Poland tomorrow
>>>(= Wednesday) in Rotterdam:
>>>
>>>[...deleted...]
>>>
>>>And the expected result: 2-0
>> Agree :-)
>>>
>
>2-0 my foot!
>You're both dreamers!
>
OK, I'll reveal my true feelings then: 3-0 :-)
Mind you, we'll probably end up losing 4-1 in Warsaw or Krakow, and
Turkey and Norway will qualify for the World Cup :-)
>
[irrelevant drivel on tomato beans deleted]
>
Cheers!
And may the best win this evening...
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From: bootsma@fys.ruu.nl (Timo Bootsma)
Subject: CSFR round 8
Organization: Physics Department, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 10:48:23 GMT

results of round 8, 10-11 oct.:

dukla praha           -boby brno             1-4                              
dynamo ceske budej.   -bohemians praha       1-0                              
nitra                 -inter bratislava      3-0                              
slovan bratislava     -slavia praha          2-1                              
sparta praha          -spartak trnava        1-2                              
spartak hradec kr.    -banik ostrava         2-0                              
tatran presov         -sigma olomouc         3-0                              
tj vitkovice          -dac dunajska streda   2-3                            
  
  1.slovan bratislava        8   7   0   1  14   21-   5   16                 
  2.dac dunajska streda      8   6   1   1  13   20-  10   10                 
  3.boby brno                8   5   1   2  11   16-  14    2                 
  4.sparta praha             8   5   0   3  10   13-   7    6                 
  5.sigma olomouc            8   5   0   3  10   12-  11    1                 
  6.spartak hradec kr.       8   4   1   3   9   11-   7    4                 
  7.slavia praha             8   3   3   2   9   15-  12    3                 
  8.inter bratislava         8   4   0   4   8   18-  14    4                 
  9.banik ostrava            8   3   2   3   8   11-  12   -1                 
 10.tj vitkovice             8   2   2   4   6    8-  11   -3                 
 11.nitra                    8   1   4   3   6    6-   9   -3                 
 12.tatran presov            8   2   2   4   6   10-  14   -4                 
 13.spartak trnava           8   1   3   4   5   10-  17   -7                 
 14.bohemians praha          8   1   3   4   5    5-  14   -9                 
 15.dynamo ceske budej.      8   2   0   6   4    3-   9   -6                 
 16.dukla praha              8   1   2   5   4   12-  25   -13              

timo.
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From: taube@isa.de (Christian Taube)
Subject: Re: UEFA DISGRACE: RE: Leeds v Stuttgart
Organization: ISA GmbH, W-7000 Stuttgart 1, Germany
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 15:53:38 GMT

eschbach@abc.wrc.xerox.com (Reiner Eschbach) writes:
>One more question: who brought the fact to the UEFA attention? There have been
>conflicting accounts on the net, some saying it was Stuttgart, some say Leeds.
>What's reality?

I still say Stuttgart president Meyer-Vorfelder did it, sometime
during the day after the 2nd game.

Christian
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Date: Thursday, 15 Oct 1992 13:01:50 CET
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: RTL-4
Organization: RISC, J.K. University, Linz; Austria
From: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Karel Stokkermans)

bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring) writes:
>This is a message for all Dutchmen who like soccer:
>
    I'm listening :-)
>
>The next 4 years the home-matches of Oranje will be broadcast on RTL-4.
>
    Well, as I can't see either RTL-4 nor the regular Dutch channels, I'm
    not as horrified as I might have been :-)
>
>That means: poor camera-performance and an even worse commentator:
>HANS KRAAY (Pronounce: Hans Cry)
>
    Have you ever had to listen to Eurosport's Wolfgang 'bye bye' Ley?
>
>This man really sucks. He doesn't know shit about soccer and isn't objective.
>
    Of course he isn't. Neither am I... And if you want an example of some
    subjective commentary, replay your video of Germany-Netherlands (see the
    .sig :-) Evert ten Napel's commentary surely can't be described as
    unbiased...
    As for Hans Kraay not knowing a shit about soccer: you can't be serious.
>
>His favorite teams are Milan, Barcelona, Ajax and Oranje. His favorite
>players are Bergkamp, Van Basten and Roy.
>
    Well, I'd say he's that in common with most Dutch soccer fans. Sad
    but true.
>
>He's even more blind than Stevie Wonder!
>
>Can't we get rid of this man?
>
>We're desperate!!!!!!!!!
>
    Come on... I *do* feel for you, but as long as I can survive Peter
    Elstner (ORF), you should be able to manage Kraay.
>
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From: bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring)
Subject: Re: Bryan Roy
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 10:43:35 GMT

shadlin@garnet.berkeley.edu writes:

>The most recent edition of Soccer America says that the Ajax managament
>instructed Roy to find a new team, that he was finished at Ajax.
>WHAT???!!!
>I was disappointed by his performance in Sweden this summer, but last
>spring in the UEFA cup semifinals (against Genoa) and finals (against
>Torino), he was absolutely spectacular.  And even in the friendly against
>Real Madrid earlier this year he was impressive.  Could someone tell
>me what is going on here!  Is this a personality conflict?  What's
>the story?

>Thanks,

>Ken Shadlen
>University of California at Berkeley
>shadlin@garnet.berkeley.edu

Well, Bryan Roy is 22 years old now. He entered the first team of Ajax when
he was 16. The management of Ajax gave him the chance to prove himself for
6 years now, but he still hasn't learned a thing in all those years. Roy
knows how to get rid of one or two opponents, but what he does after that is
definately NOT good. As a left winger he is supposed to have a good cross,
but his cross is very dissapointing. He also rarely scores. In my opinion, 
he doesn't 'see' the game well enough.

This is not a personal conflict. Ajax-coach Louis van Gaal told this news
live for the Dutch television. Roy has been put back to the second team and 
the chance that he'll ever play in Ajax 1 if very small. He is ordered
to look out for a new club. He has almost a whole season to manage that.
He also is not selected for the Dutch team anymore...



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From: collins@prl.philips.nl (Donie Collins)
Subject: Re: Bryan Roy
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories Eindhoven, Netherlands
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:34:17 GMT

In <1992Oct7.104335.29600@fwi.uva.nl> bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring) writes:
>This is not a personal conflict. Ajax-coach Louis van Gaal told this news
>live for the Dutch television. Roy has been put back to the second team and 
>the chance that he'll ever play in Ajax 1 if very small. He is ordered
>to look out for a new club. He has almost a whole season to manage that.
>He also is not selected for the Dutch team anymore...

He was good enough to get picked for the Dutch team against Italy, or was he ?
Could it be that the Dutch national side play according to the 'Ajax system'
and that Roy was picked simply because he was the Ajax left winger ????

I find it really strange that a month after representing his country Roy is
dropped by his club, labeled an 'Ajax reject' by his manager and told to
leave.

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From: gilford@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Gilford T. Hapanyengwi)
Subject: Re: England team v. Norway
Organization: Vanderbilt University CS Dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:14:11 GMT

Is this game or any of the World Cup qualifying matches 
being shown on television in the United States?  I am in the Central
Time Zone, in Nashville Tenessee to be exact.

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From: gmcdermo@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (graham.p.mcdermott)
Subject: Olympic Crochet (free-style)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 05:57:05 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.071620.1422@syma.sussex.ac.uk> mppu3@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Conor McMenamin) writes:
>PKARLIOT%knox.bitnet@UICVM.UIC.EDU writes:
>:         Guys, now that it's all over, can you please stop mailing things about
>: that Leeds-Stuttgart game.  Leeds is in the next round, what has happened
>: cannot change and I'M SICK OF IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>:         This goes to everyone that involved himself with that game and also the
>: UEFA decision.
>:                                                                 Panos Karliotis
>
>Whoooaahhhh there! I think we'd better stop discussing this, because
>Panos doesn't like it!

Hey, stop the world..... phew! Glad you spotted this Conor, Geez I nearly pushed
the "F" key to an article on this subject earlier. Thank Heavens for that.

>
>: P.S You guys think that you can change things or what?
>
>You think this post is going to stop the discussion?

What do you mean! I think we should all stop now and ask Panos what he
thinks would be a good point for discussion in a rec.sport.soccer group.

Howsabout.....errm... World-class Origami, Olympic Crochet (free-style)
or even (dread of dreads) the latest release of Super Mario Bros.


ObLeedsVStuttgart

Overall I felt the game was just as thrilling as the Leeds 4-1 Victory
previously. The right venue 8-), the right result, and now the
match we have all been anticipating and drooling over......

Rangers V Leed Utd (or is that United Leeds 8-)

If anyone is still reading and is interested (even if you aren't Im still
typin' and your sure still readin')

my predictions...

I think the match in Glasgow will probably go Rangers way, with a probable
2-0 or 2-1 victory over Leeds. 
(It should be interesting to see McFearson and Cantona play for play, man for
man - NOT!  HeeeeHaaaaw, said the small horse like animal with large ears)

The home match for Leeds, however should
be a different kettle of bananas. I think a complete reversal of fortunes
with a Leeds victory of 2-0 for sure...... hence I think the match to watch
should be the Gers at home.

Final result, a draw which Rangers may just pull off with penalties,
or an away goal win for Leeds (either with a draw or an outright win)
A close one, not one for the faint-hearted.

Graham McDermott
A Scot in Ingerrland.
(ps dont you just love the way this net is clogged up with scots
	with opinions)
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From: collins@prl.philips.nl (Donie Collins)
Subject: Re: Holland - Poland
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories Eindhoven, Netherlands
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 09:39:42 GMT

In <1992Oct13.200731.20250@fwi.uva.nl> vstam@fwi.uva.nl (Victor Stam) writes:
>I hate people who live in Haarlem, and don't support their local soccerteam,
>but instead support the team that wins the league (unlike me who used to live 
>near alkmaar and therefore support AZ, but now live in Amsterdam, so also
>support the best team of the world, and we all know that is AJAX!

Yeah, sure. It had nothing to do with the fact that AZ haven't even come
near winning anything since 1981/82, we believe you !

:-)



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From: tom@ethome.et.iupui.edu (Thomas Boehm)
Subject: EC Round 1 Summary - Request
Reply-To: tom@lightning.cadcam.iupui.edu
Organization: School of Engr and Tech, Purdue Univ at Indpls
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 20:09:17 GMT

I was sick the last week and a half, and didn't have access to read News. 

Can anybody send me a summary of the results of the 1st round of the EC 
(all 3 competitions). 

Thanx in advance.
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From: marco@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Marco Petroni)
Subject: Re: SHAME ON ITALIA
Keywords: bleah
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines, Montreal, Canada
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 01:40:43 GMT

David, did you forget to put smileys in your article before you posted?

In article <1992Oct15.123929.499@wam.umd.edu> waddlech@wam.umd.edu (David Akkarach) writes:
>In article <1992Oct15.112759.22738@ghost.dsi.unimi.it> mastroma@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (Cesare) writes:
>>Very bad performance of the Italian soccer national team , that 
>>yesterday night had a draw on his home against a low level team
>>like the Swisse team . 
>>
>>Ciao , Cesare .
>
>What can you expect when sacchi picks 8 milan players for the team?

Why, a decisive victory, of course! ;-) Besides, Inter has scored
as many goals this season as Ancona, Pescara, and Udinese! ;-)

>He should have picked some INTER players such as ZENGA, FERRI, BIANCHI
>and BERTI.

Let's take a look at things a little more carefully (all IMHO):

Zenga: a good goalkeeper, regarded by many to be over rated,
       has had a good past with the Azzurri, but whose days with
       the national team left with Vicini.

Bianchi: good player, was indeed picked by Sacchi, and entered the
       Italy - Switzerland game in the first half, when Evani came out.
       After he came in, the Italians started to regain their composure.
       Coincidence? Maybe not.

Berti: does little on the field, and repeatedly cries to the referee
       when challenged in the slightest way by an opposing player.

There are other good players that Sacchi capped, and didn't even
put on the bench; leading scorer Signori of Lazio was supposedly
"injured", and Zola was watching the game in the stands with Maldini.

>It is obvious that berlusconi has been paying sacchi alot of money all
>this time for him to pick the milanisti to play for the nerazzuri.

Nah, they're just way better than any of the Inter players! ;-) ;-) ;-)

Best regards,

Marco...
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From: timk@bjcong.bj.co.uk (TIM KENNEDY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Leeds Utd Question: IMPORTANT
Date: 7 Oct 92 11:30:59 GMT
Reply-To: timk@bjcong.UUCP (TIM KENNEDY)
Distribution: rec
Organization: Boldon James Limited (UK)

In article <26459@castle.ed.ac.uk> efsv09@castle.ed.ac.uk (J Shaw) writes:
>I would just like to ask any Leeds supporters at the game or those who
>report that said that Strachan, McCallister, Cantenna and Speed were all
>playing. Now I thought that Speed was Welsh, which means that Leeds
>played with 4 foreigners. Anybody care to shed any light on it. The

Speedy was a junior at Leeds,  which makes him "assimilated",  of which
category two further players are permitted by EUFA rules.  The krauts 
were fined a further 4,000 pounds by UEFA for complaining about Gary.

>second question was about a goal Leeds were meant to have scored when it
>was 3-1. The ball was headed of the underside of the bar or something.
>Was it a goal?? If somebody could please give me a bit more detail I

Yes a goal seemed to have been scored ,  and no it was ruled not to have
crossed the line,  just like Speedy's effort in sausage-eater land.

			Tim

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