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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:30:55 EDT
From: Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: First Test - Score card - Australia v/s Sri Lanka

In article <9c.a03=i6atN00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>, ahmed@uts.amdahl.com (Syed S.
Ahmed) says:
>
>In article <1992Aug25.182728.17849@engage.pko.dec.com> you write:
>>
>>>      When was the last time three batsmen scored centuries in the same
>>>innings of a Test match ? I don't think the Pakistanis did it during their
>>>two huge innings in the just-concluded series in England.
>>>
>
this has been done quite a few times. more rare are the instances when FOUR
batsmen scored 100's in the same innings. offhand i can recall 2 instances:
Pak vs Ind, 82-83 (zaheer 168, mudassar 119, imran 107, salim malik 101)
WI vs Ind, 82-83 (greenidge 154, haynes 136, lloyd 106, dujon 110)
the figures above are approximate. i probably have a complete list at home
which i'll post when i go there.

Stay cool,
The Thinker

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From: ksrao@POWER.EEE.NDSU.NODAK.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Pakistan's next series ?
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:27:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.20047
Reply-To: ksrao@POWER.EEE.NDSU.NODAK.EDU

In article <92245.131149U17868@uicvm.uic.edu>, U17868@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
>Does anybody know when is Pakistan's next series ? Is it at home or away ? Also
>I recall that South Africa was offering Pakistan a tour of one day matches ? Wh
>at has happened to that ?
>
      Pakistan will play WSC matches in Australia this summer (Australian).
They have a series in New Zealand (early next year is what the report says -
then it will be after the WSC games in Oz). They have a series in West Indies
in 1993. They are scheduled to take part in a triagular one-dayer tournment in
South Africa along with West Indians - possibly before the WI test series.

>Sikander Waheed (not Bakht)
>u17868@uicvm.bitnet
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From: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Aus V SL
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:04:06 GMT
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In article <1992Sep2.192505.14721@rs.com>, shiv@west.rs.com (Shiv) writes:
>Yes! it is surprising that SL did not go for the target of 286 off minimum of
>62 overs. They are known for their daredevil approach, and I wonder why they
>settled in for a draw.
>
>During India's last trip to SL (when Kapil was the captain), India was struggling
>in its second innings. Vengsarkar held one end up, and for the last wicket, he
>and Maninder could hang on till the 5th mandatory over when Maninder was finally
>out. This left SL a target of 111 in 11 overs.
>
>SL opened with Arvinda de Silva (then very young in his debut series) and skipper
>Duleep Mendis and went for it. The first ball of the innings from Kapil was hooked 
>for a six by Arivinda. 

Not that it matters but I would like to give my 2 paise worth here.
(for what it is worth)

Aravinda hit a six over cover off Kapil Dev and he also has
the distinction of doing the same to Imran Khan at the start of
an innings (that too over cover). He has also hit a six in
the initial over of Malcolm Marshall. Some feat indeed.


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From: alis@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Sal-Myster)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Pakistan's next series ?
Keywords: Can't think of any!
Date: 1 Sep 92 22:21:03 GMT
Organization: Oregon St. U, CS Dept.

In article <92245.131149U17868@uicvm.uic.edu> U17868@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
>Does anybody know when is Pakistan's next series ? Is it at home or away ? Also
>I recall that South Africa was offering Pakistan a tour of one day matches ? Wh
>at has happened to that ?
>
>Sikander Waheed (not Bakht)
>u17868@uicvm.bitnet

As posted by someone who said he took it from Wisden 1991 edition.....

1992  Pk to Eng
      Aus to SL
92-93 WI to Aus
      Eng to Ind & SL*
      Aus to NZ
      Ind to WI
      Pak to WI
1993  Aus to Eng
      NZ to SL*
93-94 Eng to WI*
      Ind to Pak
      NZ to Aus
      SL to Aus
      Pak to NZ
      Ind to SL
      Aus to Pak*
1994  Ind to Eng*
      NZ to Eng
94-95 Eng to Aus
      WI to Ind*
      Pak to Ind
      WI to NZ
      Aus to WI*
95-96 Pak & WI to Aus*
      SL to Ind
      Eng to NZ
      NZ to WI

      * unconfirmed

>From what I can understand with South Africas inclusion into world cricket
since this was published you can add
1992  SA to WI
93-94 SA to Aus
      Aus to SA

there may also be a series India V South Africa but I don't know when or where.



Salman Ali
From: ksrao@POWER.EEE.NDSU.NODAK.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Aus v SL T2 D1 close of play
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:23:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.19932
Reply-To: ksrao@POWER.EEE.NDSU.NODAK.EDU


         Australia were 177 for 5 at the close of the rain affected first day
of the second test match. 66 overs of the scheduled 90 overs were bowled.
 
        Moody was out with the score at 1 and Taylor, Boon and Waugh were out
before the score reached 73. Jayasoorya had a hand in all three dismissals..
Border was out for 13 and Dean Jones is not out wth 71, thanks to the umpires (
BBC reporter's words) and Mahanama who dropped him. Mathews is at the crease
with 17. May be somebody from Oz can give more details of Jones' lives (I
understand there were three lbw decisions which went his way).

      ICC has decided not to disclose the reasons for the ball-change in the
Lord's ODI (TDI).


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From: rupertb@is.morgan.com (Rupert Brown)
Subject: More Cricket Songs
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 07:20:48 GMT

Courtesy of a colleague of mine:-

Best ever cricket song is Roy Harper's "When an Old Cricketer Leaves the
Crease" .. do you know it?

"When an old cricketer leaves the crease, you never know whether he's gone.
 You'll sometimes capture a fleeting glimpse of the 12th man at silly mid-on.
 It could be Geoff, and it could be John, with a new ball sting in his tail.
 It could be me, and it could be thee, and it could be the sting in the ale."

Also, Wishbone Ash once brought out an album called "There's The Rub" (?)
with a nice cover drawing of a new ball being rubbed on the flannels ...

An Australian group called Sherbet had a number one hit with a song called
"Howzat" although it wasn't about cricket ("You messed around, I caught you
 out, Howzat!")
From: vnesiah@aludra.usc.edu (Deep Third Man)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: PAK, ENG  ONE DAYS ON PPV
Date: 28 Aug 1992 12:15:53 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <9208281738.AA03903@cs.utexas.edu> aapfl6!zulfiqar@aapfl1.attmail.com writes:

>        England vs Pakistan One Day Internationals would be televised
..deleted..,

>        Call your cable company to sign up for these games on PPV.
>        The charge for one game is $19.95
>

I don't know about you guys but this is begining to bug me.
One or two adverts a week is fine at most an advert a day but this 
is too much. Every other article is an advert from this guy trying to make 
a buck.

- Vasee

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From: kre@cs.mu.oz.au (Robert Elz)
Subject: Aust v SL, 2nd test, 3rd day
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 23:37:44 GMT

Since no-one seems to be saing anything at all about this ...

Aust dismissed for 247 at what was the end of the 2nd day, both
of the first two days interrupted by rain.  Jones 77 and Matthews 55
the only notable scores (Border 13 I think).

In reply at the end of the third day, SL 9/258, De Silva 85, and
McDermott 4/53.  SL were 2/103 at one stage.

kre
From: sarge@cs.uq.oz.au (The Lemming)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Aus V SL
Date: 3 Sep 92 00:05:52 GMT
Reply-To: sarge@cs.uq.oz.au

In <9224709.27268@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> kre@cs.mu.oz.au (Robert Elz) writes:

:In <1992Sep2.204937.13487@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
:s1172217@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (Mark Smith) writes:

:| I must say I am surprised at SL, I would have thought they would have gone for
:| it, 4.5 runs per over is like a good one dayer target,

:But a test is not a one day game - if necessary the fielding captain
:can defend with lots of filders out near the fence, preventing many
:runs from being scored.  That and no limitaton on who can bowl.

:Those luxuries in tests mean that the fielding captain can open the
:innings with a very attacking field - meaning that shots which may
:generate 4 runs past the couple of slips fielders in a one day game
:are caught in the gully in a test.

:That danger means that the batsmen can't play such an attacking game
:as they might in a one day game.

:The two things just aren't comparable.


I agree with Kre in that the two things are not quite comparable, but
his comment on fielding doesn't make sense. If stacking people in the
slips makes for a lower total, (Sri Lanka only had 62 overs to face)
then you would see it in the one-day games. Also, putting 10 people on the 
boundary almost guarentees getting 6 runs (6 singles) per over. Sure there
is no fours, but singles and even two's are very possible.

Having your best bowler bowl as many overs as he is able to is one reason
which does hold up.
The 0ther reason is relaxed wides and noball rules. McDermott could bowl
one bouncer, several wide ones down the offside, one down the leg side,
all would generate a run in one day games, but you have used 4 balls up
without even generating a run. Australia could have adopted tactics like
this as soon as it thought it couldnt win. If Australia was going for a
win, then they would have had quite a few people in the slips, close
catching positions, and hence most of the outfield would have been 
free of fielders. If the batsmen were any good, there must of been singles
around somewhere, even without taking too many risks.  Scoring only 130 off 54
overs is not a batting display worth mentioning. The fact that they lost only two wickets indicates caution was the most important thing.

If I was the SriLankan captain, I would have had a go for the win, and evaluate
the chances after every wicket. You are not going to inspire any sort of 
confidence in yourself if you never win. (Look at the Australia team of
Kim Hughes' time, they hardly every won, and so they became very unconfident.)

The Lemming
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From: asrini@sanjuan (Anand Srinivasan)
Subject: Re: A MILLION runs in tests (Was: Miandad,Border,Gower,etc...)
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria B.C. CANADA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 23:57:30 GMT

In article <l9rkolINNegc@aludra.usc.edu> moghal@aludra.usc.edu (Nadeem Moghal) writes:
>In article <l9rjsrINN5n6@skat.usc.edu> fazam@skat.usc.edu (Farooq-e-Azam) writes:
>>Can somebody post the latest ranking of the playing batsmen nearing 10,0000
>>runs mark?
>
[picky details deleted]
>
>In case you wanted to find out about the players approaching TEN THOUSAND
>runs, and the extra zero above was merely a typo, well, what can I say! I
>am speechless!
>

adding an extra zero to ten thousand doesn't make a million (as the subject
suggests).  sorry to be picky on u being picky.
>>
>>Farooq
>
>Nadeem Moghal
>USC
>
>
 A Srini
From: gt9911a@prism.gatech.EDU (SUNDAR)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: World's worst fielder
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:50:54 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institure of Technology, Atlanta , GO BRAVES

In article <92244.123032SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu> SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu (Spaceman Spiff) writes:
>>to start naming the worst! I think that the supporters of each test team
>>should nominate the worst from their side that they can remember.
>>
>>        Devon (I'll dive for this, oops i've missed it again) Malcolm
>>
>for india, three names spring to mind: b. s. chandrashekhar, dilip doshi and
>sandip patil.
>Stay cool,
>The Thinker

How about T.A.Shekar and Salil Ankola. I still would count Kiran More as one
of the worst keeper I have ever seen (with respect to his keeping). 
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From: bholu@nyx.cs.du.edu (  Bholu)
Subject: Re: Pakistan win 5th one-dayer
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 17:23:15 GMT


Nope , Pakistan couldn't have won it even had the match been abandoned.
The popular rain rule of WC '92 wasn't used in the present series. And
I wouldn't really be too enthusiastic in working out the conditions under
which Pak could have won had that silly rule been used (very much doubt if
it will ever be used in future). Eng were far superior in the one day
games and, thankfully, there was no stupid rule to deprive them of victory
in this series.

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From: raza@surya.ccs.uwo.ca (Mr. Raza Syed)
Subject: Re: World's worst fielder
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:48:25 GMT

In article <7986@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> kahmed@pylon.icsl.ucla.edu (Kashif Asad Ahmed) writes:
>Keywords: 
>
>In article <1992Aug31.233515.17229@julian.uwo.ca>, you write:
>|> In article <karnik.715278130@mega> karnik@mega.cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik)
>writes:
>|> >In <1992Aug31.152100.13529@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> andrew@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk
>(Andrew Walker) writes:
>|>
>|> one i remember from pakistan was Zakir Khan ;)
>
>Also don't forget ABDUL QADIR.  He has missed quite a few catches specially
>those high rise ones.
>
I disagree! Qadir was quite good fielder he might have miss some easy 
chances on ocassions but on the whole he was not a mediocre(sp?) fielder.

S.R.Raza
>|>Raza.
>
>Kashif Ahmed
From: ksrao@POWER.EEE.NDSU.NODAK.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Aus v SL T3 D4
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:05:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.20025
Reply-To: ksrao@POWER.EEE.NDSU.NODAK.EDU


             Australia scored 206 for 5 by the close of the fourth day's play
(shortened by half an hour due to bad light). Border scored 28, Moody a
half-century. They lost 4 wickets at around 100 runs and the fifth wicket, that
of Border fell at 149. Hughes is still batting.

              Earlier SL declared at the overnight score of 258 for 9, in reply
to Aussies' first innings total of 147.


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From: ecrjbruce@economics.adelaide.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Border - A v. SL - Third Day.
Date: 1 Sep 92 01:26:25 GMT
Organization: Economics, University of Adelaide

Oh No! I completely left AB off Australia's first innings!

Here is Border's contribution:

A. Border                            b. Liyanage           13

(Batting at No. 6)

Don't worry AB, this isn't a hint that you shouldn't be around!

Daniel.
From: diwadkva@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (Vaibhav A. Diwadkar)
Subject: Amar Singh (was Re: The Punjab theory of fast-bolwing.)
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 01:57:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug24.003845.25045@tamsun.tamu.edu>, 
vnk5651@tamuts.tamu.edu (Veeraraghava Nagendr Kondagun) writes...

> I am not sure if he is from Punjab(I doubt it).But in the Ranji Trophy he
>played for Nawanagar(Vinoo Mankad also played for this team),the state of
>Ranji and Duleep.In addition to being a very good fast bowler he was also
>a fairly good batsman in the tail.Unfortuntately he died at a very young
>age around 1940 or so.He also had a brother L.Ramji who also played test
>cricket.
> 
>Gopal

Following up on this thread, I think Amar Singh was the first bonafide 
allrounder to play for India.  He has at least one 50 in test cricket 
(an innings of 51 comes to mind) and as has been opined here, was a 
pretty mean bowler as well.

When it comes to pace man, India of course has had an astonishing drought 
after the days of Nissar and Amar Singh and only Kapil Dev managed to
salvage things over the last decade and a half.  Incidently, the threat
of drought is everpresent and there is still no answer to "After Kapil
Who?"

Just my bit of rambling on a Sunday.

- Vaibhav.


> 
> 
> 
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From: s1172217@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (Mark Smith)
Subject: cricket for novices
Organization: Monash University College Gippsland, Churchill, 3842, Australia
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 07:41:29 GMT

A short version of everything is:

Cricket is a marvellously devious, sometimes subtle game synonymous with
chivalrous behavior, in which patience often is more conspicuous than thrills
and tension.  Played in variable forms of daylight.  Games last from half a
day to several days, seldom starting before moring tea time.  Venues range
from roughly-mown cow paddocks to parks studded with matting-covered concrete
or malthoid to vast enclosed stadiums.  A game for two cream-clad -- plain
white is frowned on -- teams of 11 players (single wicket games are
periodically revived), men or women, infants or octogenarians.  Blind people
play it and so do the limbless and spastic.  Cricket has a record number of
records.  For record purposes, a first class match is 'any match over three
days or more between teams of 11 players, offically considered first-class'

Simple isn't it!

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From: G.R.Price@cm.cf.ac.uk (G R Price)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Ball Tampering
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:12:27 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff, Cardiff, WALES, UK.
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

What is the situation with ball tampering ?
On last nights news Richie Richardson said it never happened, in
todays Guardian Mike Selvey says all bowlers are at it all the 
time : Shurely shome mishtake

Gwyn Price 
scmgrp @ cm.cf.ac.uk
From: rscholef@physics.adelaide.edu.au (Scholefield R.B.)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: worst fielder
Date: 2 Sep 92 03:52:29 GMT


What about Jimmy Higgs, legspin bowler for Australia in the late seventies and
early eighties?
At one match some spectators brought a banner saying"Jim Higgs loves Miss
Fielding!"
For all those people naming Chandrasekhar as the worst fielder, you should
remember that he had to overcome polio as a child which severely withered his
arms.A remarkable recovery by him to make test level, let alone become one of
the greatest legspinners since the second world war.
From: jhelberg@nl.oracle.com (Joost Helberg)
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Subject: PAKISTAN XI beat DUTCH XI with 7 runs
Date: 30 Aug 92 20:22:30 GMT
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Sun Aug 30 :
Pakistan beat the dutch cricket team with 7 runs!

rain limited lay to 35 overs.


Pakistan started batting: 192 all out


The dutch team make 185 for 5 wickets!

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From: astley@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au ()
Subject: Aus v SL Scorecard (D3)
Organization: Computing Centre, University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 01:49:58 GMT

2nd Test Sri Lanka v Australia

Australia 1st Innings 247

Sri Lanka

Mahanama    c Moody     b Dodemaide  14 at 26
Hathurusinghe           b Moody      67 at 174
Gurusinha   c Healy     b Whitney    29 at 67
De Silva    c Healy     b McDermott  85 at 243
Ranatunga   c Martyn(*) b Dodemaide  18 at 211
Jayasuriya  c Healy     b McDermott  19 at 240
Kaluwitharane c Martyn  b Border      1 at 243
Ramanayake              b McDermott   8 at 255
Liyanage    c Healy     b McDermott   4 at 258
Anurasiri         Notout              2
Muralidharan      Notout              0
Extras        6LB    5NB             11
TOTAL                         9 for 258

Bowling         O  M  W  R
McDermott      20  4  4  53
Whitney        16  1  1  49
Dodemaide      25  4  2  74
Matthews       10  2  0  20
Waugh           4  0  0  11
Moody           6  1  1  17
Border         11  3  1  28

* - fielding for injured David Boon... at short leg!

Sri Lanka suffered another batting collapse on day 3 of the second test.
They lost 5-18 to be 9-258 at stumps, just 11 runs ahead of Australia.
Craig McDermott was the wrecker taking 4/11 from 7 overs after tea.
With Aravinda de Silva and Sanath Jayasuriya set and the score 4/240 the
home team looked set for a big lead. McDermott then struck with the first
ball of a new spell to remove Jayasuriya and Aravinda (who was in for 4 hours)
was out in the next over. The Border got the wicket of century maker in he
last test Romesh Kaluwitharane.
taken from report by Treny Bouts and published in the Hobart Mercury

Tim
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