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From: D.Parson@bradford.ac.uk (D PARSON)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Nitrous Oxide
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:00:17 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 92105341@ccw203

I KNOW this isn't _strictly_ a question about pyrotechnics, (unless it goes
wrong!) but what is the best way to connect a NO2 feed to a car in order
to increase acceleration...

Of coure, I would NEVER actually think of doing it...  Just curious!

Thanxx in advance!


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From: pbray@envy.reed.edu (<<hurdy gurdy>>)
Subject: Re: New and a few questions too.
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:16:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.192010.22248@nmsu.edu> rmullen@sulu (MULLEN) writes:

 The second thing is since I'm into personal defense,  
> are there any books that show how to make low grade and strenght  
> explosives for distractions and getting out of tight jams out there on  
the  
> market?

	I can't tell if you are serious or not.  There are not really any  
effective D&D-smoke-bomb-disappearing-act devices out there; at least none  
that you could use in a hurried situation, like being mugged or something.  
However there is something that I could suggest.  Something which they  
don't have that much of in the Orient.  However I personally do not like  
these items.  But, hell, you can buy 'em (if you're a citizen).  Maybe...  
maybe... maybe... just maybe... a gun?
	I wouldn't rely on home made pyrotechnic devices for personal  
defense.  Yeah you could use some contact explosive or something (read  
Ammonia Tri-iodine); but how effective could this be?  Get some mace.   
Don't go to places where you would normally need high explosives to stay  
alive.
				Peter

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From: rubin@cis.ohio-state.edu (Daniel J Rubin)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Selling Class C legally ??
Date: 28 Jan 1993 02:23:27 -0500
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Distribution: world
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I was thinking about selling green visco fuse at a gun show or two here in
Ohio.  What do I have to do to sell this stuff legally?  When you ship
fuse it is DOT Class C, but to buy Class C fireworks here in Ohio, you have
to sign a disclaimer saying you will not shoot them in the state.  However,
I can buy visco fuse at the local gun shop without signing anything.  It
is green visco "cannon fuse".  Now if fuse is class C why don't I have to 
sign a disclaimer and can I sell it at gun shows without requiring customers
to sign a disclaimer?

Thanks for any input                                               - Dan
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From: mmaryo@udecc.engr.udayton.edu (Michael J Maryo (U))
Subject: Re: Dran-o Bombs?
Organization: Univ. of Dayton, School of Engineering
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 06:58:13 GMT

In article <C1ED96.ADq@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au> fernee@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Mark Fernee) writes:
>In article <mktjadx.727905009@gsusgi1.gsu.edu>, mktjadx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Jeff A. Dilcher) writes:
>|> 
>|> On some news show I saw where one town outlawed the sale of Dran-o because
>|> kids were making "mail bombs" with it.  Now, I am no mail bomber, but I
>|> would like to know how Dran-o is utilized to make mail bombs. 
>|> 
>|> Anyone know?
>
>Probably the same way that it was used here for a similar purpose. Draino
>contains caustic soda which reacts with aluminium metal to give of gaseous
>hydrogen. By placing this mixture in a large glass bottle and skrewing on
>the lid, tying an oily rag around the bottle which you ignite. The rest 
>can be left to the imagination, suffice it to say that this kind of device
>was responsible for seriously maiming a lady who's letter box was to be
>destroyed. I certainly DON'T recommend this type of unreliable, dangerous
>and primitive device. No noise maker should contain glass or any other
>schrapnel producing material. I hope that most of the people who contribute
>to this group wouldn't be so stupid.
>
>Mark.
>

	Hey all!  I'm new to this newsgroup, so pardon the insuffecient
knowledge.  I do know that when I was in my youth and thought that I was 
Immortal, we used to take crystal drano and mixed it with aluminum foil.  Then
we would put that in a glass bottle and poured some water in it and put the
lid on tight, shook it up and tossed it and RAN like hell.  It usually blew
up and threw glass and everything else everywhere.  It was a cute little
device to blow up treehouses (in my youth of course).  Sometimes it would just
leak out the top and blow the lid off.  It was a pretty effective device, and
we were lucky we were never hurt.  
	If you wanted to make a drano bomb for the mail, you could put the
drano/aluminum foil in a glass bottle with some pins or sharp objects, and
put water in a balloon (in the bottle already) or some kind of plastic bag.
Then when the bottle is shook up (mailed and tossed around), the bottle or
balloon would puncture, releasing water into the jar, and would mix with the
drano.  Then guess what happens in your local postal office?  KAAAABOOOOM!
Of course you put the jar in thin box or something.  Not too much fun for
the good old U.S. postal service, but none the less fun for some demented
kids.

Mike Maryo     mmaryo@udecc.engr.udayton.edu

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From: Andrew.Brooks@launchpad.unc.edu (Andrew Brooks)
Subject: Re: PMJB
Organization: UNC Office of Information Technology
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 03:54:06 GMT

In article <1jplphINNctv@lynx.unm.edu> boardman@cancer.unm.edu writes:
>	That should be spelled "Durango" - just 1 "r"!  This probably
>  can from the FAQ, which has it mis-spelled this way.  I tried to
>  send E-mail to "ZOZ" suggesting that this be corrected, but the
>  E-mail bounced.  If someone else is the "Keeper of the FAQ" now,
>  the error is in section 6b, paragraph 9.

Thanks for the correction.  I have updated the FAQ to fix this.  I don't
know why your mail to me bounced - the address at the bottom of the 
FAQ should work fine.  If that doesn't work, you can reach me at this
LaUNChpad address.  Thanks,
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From: 9217088@ul.ie
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Test{Ignore Please}
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:57:08 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland

THis is a test
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From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
Subject: Re: Nitromethane
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 15:32:41 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.

betz@gozer.idbsu.edu (Andrew Betz) writes:

>you most definitely can buy nitromethane fuel in hobby stores.
>a friend of mind is an rc airplane hobbyist and buys gallons of
>the stuff every summer (its relatively expensive, as i recall.
>something like $15 a gallon?).  i think the stuff he bought
>was premixed with 2-cycle oil, though, so i don't know about
>castor oil part.

Nitromethane costs about $1400 for a 55 gallon drum for drag racing.
That's about $25 a gallon in bulk.  One gallon cans are typically
around $40.  What you friend is buying is likely either 10% or 20%
nitromethane in methanol.  At least that's what my local hobby shop
stocks in that price range.  Because nitromethane can become 
unstable and thus explosive if stored improperly, I'd doubt 
a hobby store taking on the liability of 100% nitro.  Nitro racing
fuel is inhibited and contains a color indicator that changes color
when it begins to decompose.

John
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From: slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth "the Lesser")
Subject: Re: Mysterious accelerant ???
Organization: Generic American College Kids (G.A.C.K.)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:26:53 GMT
Reply-To: slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth "the Lesser")
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ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu (Eli Brandt) writes:
>
>I bet you could do better than LOX/acetylene... LF2/LH2 might be
>a good candidate.

How about LF2 and finely-powdered cesium?

This is an utterly impractical line of speculation....

Seth L. Blumberg          \    "The whole thing was an accident.  No saboteur
slb22@columbia.edu (play)   \ could have been so wildly optimistic as to think
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Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 15:07:16 -0500 
From: Lawrence Curcio <lc2b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Chloramine

Chloramine, NH2Cl is most easily formed by mixing chlorine bleach
(liquid original Chlorox tm) with ammonium chloride. The bubbles that
form are chloramine, and they do explode. Chloramine is also formed in
swimming pools when sweat and (ugh) urine react with the chlorine bleach
used to treat the water. If you find certain pools irritating to the
eyes and nose, bear in mind that the chloramine you are making by the
above process is about 1000 times more concentrated. It is EXTREMELY
dangerous to breath.

You can do the experiment outside in a wax paper cup. Pout the NH4Cl
(about 1/4 teaspoon) into the bleach solution. Light the bubbles with a
match by throwing same, not by holding same, in the cup. A loud POP
results.

NCl3 can be formed by mixing NH4Cl with HCl solution and then adding
bleach slowly while cooling the mixture in an ice bath. It's the
equivalent of bubbling Cl2 through the NH4 salt. THIS HAS A NASTY HABIT
OF EXPLODING AND KILLING THE PEOPLE WHO TRY IT THOUGH.

Neither NH2Cl nor NCl3 is as unstable as NI3 but then, what is? I
certainly would never complain about the stubborn stability of NCl3.

BTW
Sometimes I think this group doesn't need an FAQ list. Sometimes I think
this group IS an FAQ list.

-Larry
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From: fernee@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Mark Fernee)
Subject: Re: Dran-o Bombs?
Organization: Physics Dept. The University of Queensland
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 06:41:30 GMT

In article <mktjadx.727905009@gsusgi1.gsu.edu>, mktjadx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Jeff A. Dilcher) writes:
|> 
|> On some news show I saw where one town outlawed the sale of Dran-o because
|> kids were making "mail bombs" with it.  Now, I am no mail bomber, but I
|> would like to know how Dran-o is utilized to make mail bombs. 
|> 
|> Anyone know?

Probably the same way that it was used here for a similar purpose. Draino
contains caustic soda which reacts with aluminium metal to give of gaseous
hydrogen. By placing this mixture in a large glass bottle and skrewing on
the lid, tying an oily rag around the bottle which you ignite. The rest 
can be left to the imagination, suffice it to say that this kind of device
was responsible for seriously maiming a lady who's letter box was to be
destroyed. I certainly DON'T recommend this type of unreliable, dangerous
and primitive device. No noise maker should contain glass or any other
schrapnel producing material. I hope that most of the people who contribute
to this group wouldn't be so stupid.

Mark.
From: khartman@fnalo.fnal.gov
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Re: Dran-o Bombs?
Date: 25 Jan 93 03:46:26 -0600
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnalo.fnal.gov

In article <mktjadx.727905009@gsusgi1.gsu.edu>, mktjadx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu 
(Jeff A. Dilcher) writes:
> 
> On some news show I saw where one town outlawed the sale of Dran-o because
> kids were making "mail bombs" with it.  Now, I am no mail bomber, but I
> would like to know how Dran-o is utilized to make mail bombs. 
> 
> Anyone know?


	Someone mentioned blowing up mailboxes a couple of weeks ago, using a
2 Liter plastic bottle, Aluminum foil and Hydrochloric Acid (HCl).  HCl reacts
with the foil, forming Hydrogen gas, which causes the capped bottle to burst.
I'm assuming that the kids were using Drano (Sodium Hydroxide) to dissolve
the foil, since Drano will also dissolve Aluminum and liberate Hydrogen.

	Mailboxes, huh?  Sheesh!  Well, maybe the Postal Service can also 
charge the little urchins for putting something in the mailbox without a 
stamp.


Ken
From: mvp@netcom.com (Mike Van Pelt)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Re: H2O2
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:53:31 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1993Jan25.134757.20334@ryn.mro4.dec.com> pierson@empror.enet.dec.com (dave pierson) writes:
>	Hydrogen Peroxide was used in the Walther cycle engines in the some of
>	the torpedoes and the Me 163 Komet.  (there were hot cycle and cold
>	cycle and a can't recall the fuel for hot cycle.  Cold cycle used the
>	concentrated H2O2, with just a catalyst to make steam.  Hot cycle used
>	the O2 from cold cycle as an oxidizer, with an added fuel, maybe
>	methanol....)  Cold cycle was used in DFS194 (Me163 test bed), with
>	Hot cycle used in Me163 proper.

According to someone at "Making Orbit", the Me163 (or was it Me263?) used
H202 as one component, and the other component was a mixture of hydrazine
hydrate, methanol, and potassium cuprocyanide.  It was hypergolic.

-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
From: khartman@fnalnl.fnal.gov
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Re: H2O2
Date: 21 Jan 93 03:37:42 -0600
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
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In article <1jl4d6INN8cd@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU>, schilkk@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (rAT) 
writes:
> In article <C16L78.3MD@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au> fernee@newton.physics.uq.oz.au 
>(Mark Fernee) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan20.205252.14134@rtfm.mlb.fl.us>, luckey@rtfm.mlb.fl.us 
>>(Jon Luckey) writes:
>>|> But once you get your 30% H2O2 what good is it for pyrotechnics?
>>|> I wouldn't think you could use it as rocket fuel just by spraying
>>|> it on a platinum catalyst.
>>
>>30% H2O2 is useful in organic peroxide synthesis, but then again, so
>>is 6% H2O2, the only difference is the reaction rate. Also 6% H2O2 is
>>much safer to handle. I can't see 30% H2O2 being available as an
>>
>>BTW, organic peroxides are notoriously unstable and I would not suggest
>>attempting to synthesise them.
>>
>>Mark.
>>
> 
> Hmmm....   (Sorry, had to delurk on this one...)  I've made *many* batches of
> acetone peroxide (in plastic 2-liter bottles in the freezer - great yield)
> from 30% Clairoxide hair bleach, and it works ***GREAT***!  I know that this
> stuff is supposed to be unstable, but I have never had a problem with it.  I
> would nominate it as best *easy* explosive - cheap, simple, and powerful.  
> Plus, a large pile of it can be detonated with a cigarette in the palm of your
> hand, causing a huge **WHUMPP!!!** and a big fireball.  Cool stuff!


	Well, let me say this.  I have a reliable book of Chemistry 
demonstrations that describes how to make "Peroxyacetone".  The book 
states that you should not ignite the Peroxyacetone from less than 1 meter
(using a match taped to a meterstick), because of the large fireball.

	A couple of months after I bought the book, I received a form letter
from the publisher, urging that I tear out those pages from the book and 
discard them.  Apparently, several serious accidents had occurred when 
instructors were trying this demonstration.  Hopefully, your luck won't
run out.

> 	-rAT
> 
> ---
> 	O----O	"I am rodent - hear me squeak!" - rAT	#include <disclaim.h>
>   -rAT	 \oo/	"I'll watch some TV... Maybe it'll help me to **RELAX!!!**"
> 	==\/==		schilkk@[prism|mist|storm].cs.orst.edu


Ken
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From: Andrew.Brooks@launchpad.unc.edu (Andrew Brooks)
Subject: Re: FAQ?
Organization: UNC Office of Information Technology
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 03:49:47 GMT

In article <93021.233713CXC235@psuvm.psu.edu> Christopher Campbell <CXC235@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Hello,
>I am new to rec.pyrotechnics and would like to get a complete copy of the FAQ.
>I have a thin version that was posted recently, but have been told by a friend
>a much thicker copy was posted during the fall. Could someone please post a
>complete FAQ?  I would greatly appreciate it.


The FAQ that is currently being posted every 10 days is the complete one.
Other versions that were posted previously were submissions for
corrections etc. and have been superseded.  I don't think they were any
longer, anyway.

Zoz
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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Wanted - info on "The Big Book of Menaces"
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:44:34 GMT

ac@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (George A Keller) writes:
: 
: 		I was wondering if anyone knew where I could download
: 	the book, "The Big Book of Menaces".  I heard about this from 
: 	someone posting a reply to the misc.forsale newsgroup.  It is
: 	related to "The Anarchists Cookbook", but I'd rather download
: 	the above title than buy the latter.  If you have info, please
: 	respond to my E-mail.

It is called "The Big Book of Mischief" - or TBBOM for short. It is
better than most such texts, but still contains factual errors and
omissions.

It is not, in any way, related to "The Anarchist Cookbook".

Why don't you buy the book from the author? 

Bill
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From: sas010@acad.drake.edu
Subject: The "Cookbook"
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:37:38 GMT

Greetings and hallucinations!  Just curious...all this ripping into the
Anarchists's Cookbook has been going on and I just need a clarification.  I
know of two types of the cookbook.  One is the commercial publication I have
seen floating around campus.  The other is an old ASCII text file compilation I
have heard is still floating around.  Are BOTH unreliable bits of hippie
garbage?  Or is it just the commercial version?  Or just the ASCII version?  

					-=Sean

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From: pbray@envy.reed.edu (<<hurdy gurdy>>)
Subject: Re: Something of interest...
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 06:25:11 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.163513.1908@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>  
buda@star.enet.dec.com (Mark A. Buda) writes:
 
> I know that a couple of us have said multiple times that this conference  
is
> being read by the authorities.  In fact, I would hope that people  
realize
> if they are on some of these 'Underground' lists, then the authorities
> are also there and paying attention.


	Yeah but who REALLY uses bombs that much today?  We aren't in  
Belfast here (at least I'm not).  The incidents that happened at some  
college involving exploding 2-litre bottles is hardly a serious concern.   
You're right, bomb making is not new.  Further, it is not new for most  
people to act sensibly.  If a person has the predisposition to make bombs  
I can surely tell you that the existence or non-existence of this  
newsgroup would have little effect on his propensity for, and ability to  
carry out, destruction etc..  
	Personally, I have never made any major devices mentioned on this  
newsgroup and I suspect that most people here haven't either.  Yeah, I've  
filled condoms up with hydrogen etc. but this is not really a problem.   
People who have the priveledges to play on the computer and learn such  
esoteric things as pyrotechnics are usually from environements where crime  
and criminal predisposition are very rare.  The authorities should be  
paying attention to more pressing matters - to specific environments where  
dangerous activity is far too common.  Compared to the number of gun shot  
deaths, death by bomb has to be exceedingly low.  Concentrate where  
concentration is needed.

Peter
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From: v122kzkw@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (A FROOD WHO SURE KNOWS WHERE HIS TOWEL IS)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Archive site?
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:08:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Greetings.
I read through the FAQ, and just wanted to know, are the sites mentioned for
the online literature, the same as any archive sites? Or are there archive
sites fior this newsgroup elsewhere?
Thanx.
T.

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From: ghg@en.ecn.purdue.edu (George Goble)
Subject: Re: Mysterious accelerant ???
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 15:16:46 GMT

In article <rvassar.3czb@terapin.com> rvassar@terapin.com (Robert Vassar) writes:
>
>        I've read several messages concerning the use of LOX... But not one
>pointing out the danger of clothing saturation. O2 vapor coming off of LOX
>can saturate the clothing you are wearing... Step out for a cig and... POOF!
>
>Rob

I have heard stories about LOX getting on clothing, and many hours
later somebody scratches their pants, and a large piece ignites
and burns like guncotton?  Any truth to this?
--ghg
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