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From: mjln_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Mikeey Jean Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What would you do if...
Date: 18 Dec 92 06:24:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Dec17.215603.5119@ttinews.tti.com> scott@soldev.tti.com (Scott Taylor) writes:

>I have a question that you folks might be able to shed some
>light on. I am certain that there is no single correct answer
>to this one, but I am curious to hear what others think.

>First a little background. I have been seeing a woman for 
>about 6 months now, who is really a great person. We have had
>some really fun times together and really enjoy each others
>company. I am not in love with her, nor is she in love with
>me, but we really enjoy being together.

>About a month ago I met someone else, whom I now also date.
>They both know about each other and are free to ask me 
>anything about one another. I thought that I could make this
>work, since I am completely honest about the extent of
>the relationships. However, it seems like they are now trying
>to compete for my time and attention. I think of it as a kind
>of jealousy, and it is not appealing to me.

>I don't want to dump either one of them, as I get a lot of
>enjoyment from each of their company. I have tried to discuss
>this with both of them and they both deny that there is a 
>problem.

>Any Thoughts?


>Scott Taylor, Citicorp/TTI
>pyramid!ttidca!scott
>(310) 450-9111 x2321

	Perhaps it's time to make a choice. Sometimes it's not easy trying
to play the field and keep everyone happy. I think you should decide who
you wish to continue dating (or more) and who you wish to have as a friend. 
You'll be happier this way, and who knows? Maybe you'll fall in love. Heck,
I never thought I would be happy with one girl until now. 8-)  But then 
again, if you think you can keep up the balance act, go for it.

						    Mikeey
					mjln_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu

PS Three more days till I see my honey!!! ;-)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (dreas)
Subject: Book 
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 01:40:37 GMT

Three more chapters makes four! </.)

dreas

Xref: sparky soc.singles:33857 soc.men:21157 soc.women:21460 ba.singles:2612 misc.legal:21340
From: mwoo@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Margaret Woo)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.men,soc.women,ba.singles,misc.legal
Subject: Re: Pre-Sex Contract
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:57:48 GMT
Reply-To: mwoo@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Margaret Woo)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

Okay.  Enough of this theoretical crap...

Raise your hands...
How many of you have ever suggested one of these contracts.
Hmm...I count *none*.

Okay now...
How many of you would tell the other party to *kiss off* if presented 
with one of these contracts.
Hmm...I count 256.


Looks like the "neys" have it!

:)
Margaret
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein)
Subject: Re: New Relationships...
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 01:18:43 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.030143.25182@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA writes:
>In article 23707@cbfsb.cb.att.com, sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein) writes:

>>>>>How about those of us who have already been:
>>>>>
>>>>>turned into a "Prince" by the kiss of a "Princess"
>>>>>who have lost our "Princess"
>>>>>who have no intention of returning to "frog" status
>>>>>who are on that long and hard search
>>>>>with hopes of finding another "Princess"
>>>>>to fill the void left by our lost "Princess"?
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Steve Stein  (609) 639-2264
>>>>
>>>>If that isn't an 8.9 I don't know what is.
>>>
>>>Sesquipedalians is sooooo generous! 
>>>It is not an 8.9...It's a 9.3!!!!!!
>>>
>>>Sharkey

>>It's interesting.  You always hear about the woman searching for her
>>Prince.  How about us guys?  What are we looking for?  Slugs ??
>
>2.5 (sorry)
>Now you are being a bit too much of a zealous NiceGuy[TM].
>I've said it before, but it appears that I have to say it again:
>
>STOP LOOKING!!!!
>
>Stop being so NauseatinglyNice[TM].
>Expect nothing. 
>Be genuine.
>Be yourself.
>Don't ask women out.
>Masturbate frequently.
>
>Women? Are they worth it? 
>What with PMS, jealousy, and constantly trying to change you????
>{>..Then when you change to what you think they want, they ditch you????
>
>..Then no woman wants you because of what you ended up becoming????
>
>NiceGuys[TM] are the product of what some woman 
>thought she wanted AND then decided to change her mind!!!!
>
>dreas              Language is a virus from outer space.      -Laurie Anderson 


Looks like your method isn't working very well, otherwise, I don't feel
you would have that particular view of women and their intentions.

(By the way, I like Laurie Anderson - Strange Angels)


                 Steve Stein  (609) 639-2264
    *******************************************************
    *  Just my opinion, though it could change tomorrow   *
    *******************************************************         
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (dreas)
Subject: Book
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 06:20:47 GMT


I just completed the first chapter of my first novel.
It's a thrill, but it's draining...

dreas 



Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (dreas)
Subject: Re: New Relationships...
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 21:43:06 GMT

In article 13370@cbfsb.cb.att.com, sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.030143.25182@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA writes:

>>Women? Are they worth it? 
>>What with PMS, jealousy, and constantly trying to change you????
>>{>..Then when you change to what you think they want, they ditch you????
>>
>>..Then no woman wants you because of what you ended up becoming????
>>
>>NiceGuys[TM] are the product of what some woman 
>>thought she wanted AND then decided to change her mind!!!!
>>
>>dreas              Language is a virus from outer space.      -Laurie Anderson 
>
>
>Looks like your method isn't working very well, otherwise, I don't feel
>you would have that particular view of women and their intentions.

Sorry I fooled you. I really have great globs of respect and compassion for
all women. This was just a bit of satire, Steve. The [TM] refers to whiners
who persist in asking women out when the women have made it perfectly clear
that they are not in the least bit interested.

I don't always post my exact views on everything, get it? If you don't find
some of my off-the-wall comments amusing, fine! I suppose you need smileys 
to catch the intent of my article...

</.)                             </.)                          </.Q
                                                                   \
                         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Get it now? Been a long time since I tried to conform to what people
thought I should be. Shit, man! Don't believe everything I write!!!!

dreas
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith)
Subject: Re: What is gold-digging?
Organization: Gagging Sloth Records
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 17:01:12 GMT

In article <92347.114824SXW103@psuvm.psu.edu>, S. Wukovitz <SXW103@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
|> In article <oneil.724176019@cwis>, oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil) says:
|> >rkf@wildrose.infoserv.com (Ray Fink) writes:

|> >>Oh yeah, I probably do have no class whatsoever, I don't even open
|> >>car doors for women.  Another useful sorting criterion, I've found ;-)
|> >You and I should talk.  I'll usually let a guy open the car door, if he
|> >insists, but it really, really, really ANNOYS the hell out of me.
|> Hmm, I LIKE this.  Then again, it's HIS car, sort of a "welcome
|> to my car" gesture.  If it were my car (can't afford one at the
|> moment) then I would open the door for him.  If we are walking
|> towards a building, whoever gets there first holds the door for
|> the other one.  Etc.

Yeah but do you *race* him to the door?  It's a funny scene...the guy
eying the door, knowing he's supposed to open it, so he's jockeying for
position, but dammit, the girl keeps speeding up! :-)

jds

***************************************************************************
                               * Health and knowledge and wealth and power,
Jeff Smith                     * Passion and poems and sex
smith@fl08-g.comm.mot.com      * I wear a smile like a leather glove,
                               * I won't shut my mouth for less.
                                                - shriekback
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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Size 8? (Re: What is NOT attractive to "SINGLE" men)
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:44:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <238@cnmhnet.UUCP> keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard) writes:
>In article <7901@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:
|>Perhaps a woman could more effectively torture the two of you by
|>*refusing* to sit on your ribcages for a couple of hours?  
|
|Oh C'mon Elizabeth Baby, you know you're big enough
|to handle the two of them at the same time!   8-)
|--Keith

  -7.4

-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
+==========================================================================+
From: dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: New Relationships...
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:34:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
> 
> I don't see what's so terrible about frogs--sometimes those long, nimble
> tongues can come in handy. 

Gross, Trygve!  Remember that those long, nimble tongues are very sticky
at then end.  How would you like walking around with a frog in your 
drawers that you couldn't get rid of?  

Dawn

Joseph Campbell gave me hope and now I have been saved.
"Folk Song" by Bongwater
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: julie@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Julie Wright)
Subject: Voices (was Re: Attraction -> Acquiantance or vice versa?)
Organization: The Cultural Elite
	<1992Dec9.184132.16918@schbbs.mot.com>
	<1992Dec10.151740.263@cbnewsk.cb.att.com>
	<1992Dec10.213129.6300@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>
	<thurlow.724263927@convex.convex.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:05:51 GMT

thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:
>It's surprisingly easy to improve your voice beyond what you got issued to
>you at birth, too.  There's a few friends who could really make good
>use of a basic "use your voice" class or two.

So, any clues?  I can really go for certain male voices, but don't have
much idea of how to "use my voice" myself.  In fact, I don't like it all
that much, though I don't hate it either.  It would be great to be able
to use it to turn men to putty, but even if that's impossible, I'm still
curious.

(I do remember that on the night of my high school senior prom, which,
yes, I actually went to, I more or less lost my voice -- by evening,
I could speak, but only in a very husky, soft, low voice.  My male friends
kept begging me to keep talking because they thought it was great.  Alas,
I recovered.  :)  )

---Julie
-- 
%  I wonder why it is that when I plan a route too carefully it      %
%  goes to pieces, whereas if I blunder along in blissful ignorance  %
%  aimed in a fancied direction I get through with no trouble.       %
%                      --- John Steinbeck (_Travels with Charley_)   %
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: My SO and I have nothing in common
Date: 20 Dec 92 18:27:58 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

ckunz@src4src.linet.org (Charles Kunz) writes:

>Recently, I discovered that my girlfriend and I have nothing in common, I still
>can't figure out what in heaven's name we see in each other.  Has anyone
>been in or know of someone in a similar situation?  I'm not quite sure what to
>do about it, at this point.  Any useful info would help right now.  Thanks
>in advance.

At first in a relationship people tend to focus on what they have in
common. Then after a few months they start thinking about what they don't
have in common, and they try to work the relationship into the rest of
their lives, instead of spending most of their energy on the relationship.
Is this what's happening?

You must have felt at some point that you had something in common -- if
only sex, or a feeling of emotional comfort around each other, or whatever.
Try to articulate those things and write them down. Remember that it may 
be something that can't be put into words easily. That doesn't mean it 
isn't real.

After you've written down all the things that you do have in common that
you enjoy, write down the things you don't have in common and that you 
feel uncomfortable about. Then try to balance them and decide whether it is
worth continuing the relationship. You might also ask yourself whether
you're willing to spend the time and energy to find someone with whom you 
have more in common (based on your assessment of how difficult it would be
to find that person).
-- 
Stef                Just as there are laws of Conservation of Matter and
stef@apple.com      Energy, so there are in fact Laws of Conservation of 
                    Pain and Joy. Neither can ever be created or destroyed.
                         But one can be converted into the other. 
                                                         --Spider Robinson
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.women,soc.men,misc.legal
From: margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis)
Subject: Re: Woman's *Consent* Necessary for Male Choice?!  NOT!
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:43:28 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16f by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: margoli@watson.IBM.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: The Village Waterbed

In <1992Dec15.122226.11986@zooid.guild.org> Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org> writes:
>margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis) writes...
>LM> In <1fc0j9INNq1t@agate.berkeley.edu> spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope)
>LM> tes:
>LM> >Resolving the dispute between father and mother
>LM> >can then proceed in due course.  This is obviously much
>LM> >fairer than relying on the taxpayer (i.e. me) to support the child
>LM> >in the interim.
>
>LM> Fairer to the taxpayer, but grossly unfair to the father.  Attaching the
>LM> income and assets of the party that agreed to provide for the child is
>LM> equally fair to the taxpayer, and much fairer to the one who indicated in
>LM> advance (with the woman's agreement) that no support would be forthcoming.
>             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>I agreed with just about everything that you said in your messagem except for
>this particular point.

If anything I say doesn't sound right, you probably need to read it more
carefully.  :-)

>It seems as though you believe that a man should only
>be divested of parental rights and responsibilities during pregnancy, if the
>woman *agrees* to it.  Why?  Is notification of intention not sufficient?

The context is pre-coital contracts.  Before sex, if the couple discusses it,
the man says "I have no intention of supporting a child if one should result",
and the woman agrees, then the man should not get stuck if at all possible.
If the woman did *not* agree, then the man either decides to not have sex with
her, in which case no child can possibly result, or he decides to take his
chances anyway.  So he gambled (and gamboled :-) and lost.
--
Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
From: julie@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Julie Hu)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: On a Date ... Who Covers??
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:10:02 GMT
Organization: UDel, School of Life & Health Sciences

In article <1992Dec16.144217.28365@europa.asd.contel.com> ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com writes:
>
>I have seen a bit of discussion on this thread, so I thought I would offer
>my $0.03 worth ... [ DC cost of living allowance  :-) ]
>
>On recent outings with friends, relatives, and RP-wanna-be's, it seems that
>whomever had the idea of the outing, be it lunch/dinner, movie, or the ball
>game, is usually the one that pays.  If there are multiple events, then I
>will make it a point to cover the second event, if indeed I am the recipient
>of a dinner outing, et al.
>
>As far as expectations go on an initial date, I always plan on covering
>everything ... that is something that I was brought up on.  I realize that
>these are the 90's, and I have been suprised on a few occasions ... even now
>I am still taken aback when it happens.
>

I think most people feel that way.  Even with the days of equality between
men and women ... the man usually pays.  But it is quite fun to surpise
the other person ... I have payed just to shock the other person, what a
reaction. :-)

>
>Bob - I must be getting old   :-)

Geez...must be a lot of that going around. Just remember, you aren't
*that* much older....:-)

Julie
Xref: sparky soc.singles:34150 alt.abortion.inequity:5973
From: peri@cco.caltech.edu (Michal Leah Peri)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.abortion.inequity
Subject: Re: Choice as a Reason for not having a relationship(was: Pre-Sex Contract)
Date: 17 Dec 1992 08:05:00 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org> writes:

>"Any woman [or man] who feels
>this way, [fill in the blank], is NOT someone whom I
>would want anything to do with".

>I guess that the point which I'm making is that if you're willing to 
>condemn a man who choses [fill in the blank]
> you should also be as willing to
>condemn a woman who make the same choice, as well.

>Mind you, I am *not* saying that you *should* condemn either one, but at the
>same time, realise that both have made decisions which would possibility affect
>the hopes and dreams of another person.

If more people would communicate honestly these sorts of ideas before
(or instead of) sex, the world would be a much happier (although perhaps
hornier) place.

-- 

                                                --  Michal
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course there's no reason!  
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis)
Subject: Re: Woman: will you go out with shorter man?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:05:47 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16e by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: margoli@watson.IBM.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: The Village Waterbed

In <15869@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <1992Dec12.072004.148969@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.IBM.com writes:
>>In <15837@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>|>As I said before, when this topic last came up, I think that dating someone
>|>that exactly the same height is the ideal.  For one thing, you can both
>|>stand flatfooted and you'll find that your lips fit.  Access to other
>|>strategic parts is also much easier.
>|
>|I've found that in bed, height differences don't generally matter...
>
>I suppose if you`re going to limit those sort of activities to a bed it
>doesn't generally matter.

Substitute any location where you're both horizontal.  In fact, it's just about
*only* when you're both standing flatfooted that height matters.
--
Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Females have it easy!
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:22:34 GMT
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
In-reply-to: JoeMan@'s message of 17 Dec 92 03:17:52 GMT


In article <JoeMan.7.724562272@> JoeMan@ (Joe Tooman) writes:

   Not to bitch or anything, but it seems to me that the female does not have
   any problem finding a guy anytime she feels like she wants a relationship.

I don't want to sound preachy about this, but you are wrong. Deluded. Doomed.
I can think of several women who would argue against this point.

   As a guy, I find that it is very hard to find a female that seems intrested.
   I have a good personality and I am told I rate an 7 on a scale from 1 to 10
   looks wise.  In my last relationship, my SO always commented how a guy would
   ask for her phone number once a day on average, while I have never been asked
   once for my phone number except by some undesirables.  Maybe it is I don't do
   something right, or am not that persistant, but I am sure envious of women
   at this point.  I am moderatly shy, but that will not stop me from asking
   a woman I am intrested in for her phone number, but it would be a whole lot
   nicer if it was the other way around!  Oh well, what do you guys think...

Yup.  It sure would be nice if more women were willing to ask men out.

But the fact is that _you_ are the person who wants the relationship,
so _you_ will have to be the one who takes responsibility for creating
it.  No one else can do that for you...

Concerning "I don't do something right", why don't you ask someone for
some feedback on how you're showing up for women?  How else can you
know what to adjust?


					Spidey!!!


--
You don't hunt ducks with a turnip! 

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