HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:28:42 GMT

In article <1af1h9INN43s@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>, davidc@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (David Cake) writes:
>	The main DANGERS (as opposed to side effects) are falling over,
>(which is easily prevented by sitting down), and hypoxia from not 
>breathing enough oxygen. Important things to remember are good air flow
>(if using very large amounts), remembering to breath (and not hyper
>ventilating), and sitting not hunched over. Not too hard.

Actually, I've found that if you're using cartriges, you can prolong the
buzz by hyperventilating before the hit and recycling the hit after
hyperventilating for a few seconds.

>It is teratogenic (will damage a fetus) so AVOID if pregnant. If used

Yesterday's evening news had a story about N2O actually inhibiting
conception.  It seems that female dental assistants have somthing like 40%
fewer babies (when they're trying) than average women.

So...  out of condoms, girls?  Do some nitrous!
p.s.  Just kidding.  Huror:  ark, ark!

>	Questions for non-Australians. How easy is it to get in large
>quantitys? (Like 3 foot tall tanks) Is it actually illegal (I think it
>is officially prescription only for human use here, but easy to get for
>non human use)? How widespread is its use? Has anyone got any more
>references, especially in combination with other drugs?

Here in the US, you can buy it in speed shops for use in your race car.  But
they mix some other crap in the tank with it.  Net.rumor says some sort of
sulpher/oxygen compound, but an aquaintence who actually uses it in his car
told me his had methanol.

Hey, net.chemists:  Do N2O and CH3OH mix at those pressures?  If not, they
could be separated by inverting the tank.

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
From: megazone@granite.WPI.EDU (MegaZone23)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:50:55 GMT
Organization: WPI USAF -- United Society of Animation Fans
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In article <OLDMAN.92Oct1225035@titan.ucc.umass.edu> oldman@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Tig Stone) writes:
>I have a friend who tried to buy some whipped cream cartridges (here
>in Massachusetts) and was carded.  They didn't sell to him because he
>was under 21.  Does anyone know if this is law, or just the particular

Really? Weird. I attend WPI in Worcester Mass and I could buy back when I was
19 (first time I tried) at Lechters in the Greendale Mall. I'm 21 now and 
I've never been carded. 

Even when buying large quantities for a party. Like eight boxes (80 cartridges
total).

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From: jdresser@altair.tymnet.com (Jay Dresser)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Marinol
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:35:12 GMT

In article <10563903.58.718336408@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au> 10563903@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (DUNCAN HEARD) writes:
 > What are the legitimate/legal uses of Marinol?  What is the stuff?
 >
 > dbh

Second question first: from what I know it is a specific cannibinoid
extract/sythesized(?) from MJ.  It was selected to find a chemical that
would have the beneficial medicinal effects of MJ without the high.  It
is prescribed for chemotherapy nausea and migraine headaches (and
perhaps more).  Because it is a specific single cannibinoid, my friend
thinks (fears) that a GC test could distinguish it from the multitude
of cannibinoids in MJ.  We're not sure, that's why I posted the
question.  I figured someone out there would know for sure.
From: marc@remarque.berkeley.edu (Marc DeGroot)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide
Date: 3 Oct 1992 18:19:09 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Oct3.141331.15544@prime.mdata.fi> jjj@mits.mdata.fi (Joni Jarvenkyla) writes:
>
>But if you are even out of condoms, you CAN suck the lovely gas straight
>out of the tank, if you just are ultra cautious. Open the valve so much
>that the gas is almost coming out, place your lips GENTLY to the valve
>and turn the know SLOOOOOOOOOOOOWLY. Slowlier than hell. If you do this
>slowly enough, the valve will now get frozen and you'll have plenty of
>time to complete one lungful.

No, no, NO!  The chances of "exploding your lungs" are slight -- more than
likely you'll inflate your cheeks and your mouth will lose its seal around
the valve.  HOWEVER this is extremely dangerous as far as freezing your
mouth, throat, and lungs, and can KILL you.  Is it really worth it?

If you can't buy a Romper Room-style punchball or other such heavy-duty
balloon, you surely have some condoms lying around, which will work...or
do you risk your life for sex also?

Sorry, I'm not normally the flamer type, but it upsets me to see people
advocating such dangerous acts in a public forum.  Please folks, be safe!
This is exactly the type of stupidity that causes the Congress to decide
that legislation is needed to protect the public from itself.

Peace.


-- 
Marc de Groot (KG6KF) San Francisco | 
Internet: marc@kg6kf.ampr.org       |          "Dare to dream..."
UUCP: ..!uunet!hoptoad!noe!marc     |
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From: dag@col.hp.com (David Geiser)
Subject: Re: LSD FlashBacks?
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:16:33 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division


I've had two, strong, flashback-like experiences.  Neither of them
were LSD-type (trust me, I'd know).

Smell triggered:  Down wind of some Boeings 7XXs one day -- JP4.
Sound triggered:  One scene from _The_Last_Of_The_Mohicans_ had
		  some whizzy background noises.

These two triggered intense memories from 20+ years ago.


dag

-- 

 To the cat, the experimenter is problematic.
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From: ministry@leland.Stanford.EDU ( Adler)
Subject: Re: Special K & Utopia
Organization: Satanford University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 22:49:02 GMT

In article <37242.2779226662@kiwi.gen.nz> rabbi@kiwi.gen.nz (Rabbi Bajzheet) writes:
>Anybody ever heard of either of these two drugs? The names are familiar to me,
>but I can't remember where I heard them. Possibly read about them in a Rolling
>Stone or some such :-)
>
>Any info would be appreciated.

I've heard that Special K is an animal tranquilizer called ketamine.  I don't
know about the U.S., but in other places, it's available by prescription 
from a vet.  When you inject ketamine (not in a vein, but in a muscle), you 
supposedly go unconscious for about an hour and have an incredible trip.  
That's about all I know about Special K.  





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From: jsjackso@eos.ncsu.edu (Redbeard)
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide
Originator: jsjackso@c00076-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jsjackso@eos.ncsu.edu (JONATHAN STONE JACKSON)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 08:47:35 GMT



 How many people out there know that you can get fucked up on propane?
Well, you can, but I want to know how it works (is it similar to N20?).
I would think that it is not too good for you, but hey, what is? Also,
could other gases be used, e.g. acetylene?

					-Redbeard
From: patrik@cup.portal.com (Patrick M Crumhorn)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Quayle's drug connection (news story)
Date: Mon,  5 Oct 92 16:10:37 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

=START=   XMT: 11:21 Sat Oct 03  EXP: 11:00 Sun Oct 04 

MICHIGAN SENATOR WANTS PROBE CONCERNING QUAYLE INVOLVEMENT WITH PRISONER 

WASHINGTON (OCT. 3) UPI - A Michigan senator is calling for an investigation
into the events before the 1988 election involving a federal prisoner from
Indianapolis who claims to have sold marijuana to Vice President Dan Quayle. 

Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., asked the Justice Department Friday to find out why
prison officials blocked a Nov. 4, 1988, news conference that Brett C.
Kimberlin had arranged with reporters at the Federal Correctional Facility in
El Reno, Okla. 

The news conference four days before the 1988 election had been arranged after
Kimberlin told several journalists that he had sold small quantities of
marijuana to Quayle in the early 1970s. Quayle has denied the allegation. 

On the day of the planned news conference, prison officials told reporters it
was canceled. Kimberlin was placed in detention for a day and later was twice
returned to detention after reporters called or showed renewed interest. 

Levin, chairman of the Senate Subcommittee on Oversight of Government
Management, said he asked for the investigation after his own staff looked into
charges that the Bureau of Prisons had silenced Kimberlin for political
purposes. 

A spokesman for Quayle said Levin's request appeared to be election year
politics. 

''I would say this looks like all wind-up and no delivery,'' said spokesman
Jeff Nesbit. ''I find it curious that Brett Kimberlin and this topic is a
quadrennial issue - it comes up every election cycle.'' 

''The other thing is that Kimberlin did get a chance to tell his story. He was
calling a number of reporters at that time, and they would turn around and call
me. The fact is that they didn't find his story credible,'' Nesbit said. 

In 1981, Kimberlin, now 38, was sentenced to 50 years in prison for setting off
eight bombs in the Speedway area of Indianapolis during a five-day period in
1978. One of the bombs injured two people, one severely. 

Kimberlin was convicted in Texas in 1980 of drug smuggling and impersonating a
military officer. He received a 16-year sentence for his part in masterminding
airplane shipments of marijuana. He and workers disguised themselves as
military security guards to avoid detection when unloading the planes. 

Kimberlin, now in federal prison in Memphis, Tenn., sued the government in
1990, claiming his rights of free speech had been violated in the 1988 episode.
Named in the suit are J. Michael Quinlan, director of the U.S. Bureau of
Prisons, and Loye Miller, a Justice Department spokesman. A hearing has been
set for Oct. 16 in the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington. 

The Kimberlin-Quayle episode was featured in a controversial series of the
''Doonesbury'' comics, by syndicated cartoonist Garry Trudeau. 

The Kimberlin story also was featured in a lengthy article in New Yorker
magazine this week. 



=END=
From: jcollier@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (John Donald Collier)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Ethereal high.....
Date: 2 Oct 92 11:21:59 GMT
Organization: University of Melbourne, Australia

In <1992Sep30.201025.3234@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au> u8951608@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:

>Ether can certainly cause nausea and vomiting, and not just from the
>smell. Perhaps someone wants to look up the toxicity data, and
>find out why it is no longer (widely) used as an anasthetic.
>I was under the impression that it is less hepatotoxic than
>chloroform, but still rather unpleasant to the body.

I think that you will find that in quantities to get similar 
effects, ether is a good deal less toxic than alcohol. I did
check this out once, but it was more than 20 years ago. Some
other inhalants are much more dangerous. Trilene, for example,
is substantially more damaging to the cerebellum than alcohol
is. Chloroform is a good deal more toxic to the liver than ether
or alcohol, if I recall correctly. A lot of others can easily
kill you in one good dose, so I won't mention them. Alcohol, 
of course, before anyone objects, can also kill you with
one good dose. The LD in humans is about 3 times what a lot
of people drink each weekend. Fortunately, you usually throw
up before it can kill you, and booze is generally packaged
in quantities smaller than an average lethal dose.

There is a very good reason not to use ether as an anaesthetic:
it is quite flammable. I once had flames shooting to the ceiling
from a big chemical drum with some "empty" ether bags in it after
a friend flicked his cigarette ashes into it. Quite remarkable.
I was shocked for a second, but the flame was not hot enough
to burn the ceiling, and I put a piece of carboard over the
drum. The roar from the flames stopped, so I took the cardboard
off. The roar started again as the flames wooshed up to the
ceiling. After verifying that the phenomenon was repeatable 
(ever the scientist), I left the cardboard on for a minute or so, 
and the flames were doused. Now this was after sending several
hours breathing ether. I would like to see someone with the
same presence of mind after drinking for several hours.

The biggest problem other than flammibility is the smell. Believe me,
it caused me much more trouble in my ether breathing days than
anything else.

-- 
John Collier 			Email: jcollier@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
HPS -- U. of Melbourne		  	Fax:   61+3 344 7959
Parkville, Victoria, AUSTRALIA 3052
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: Sun,  4 Oct 1992 22:34:38 -0400 
From: "Bartley R. Troyan" <bt26+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: LSD FlashBacks?
	<92277.205934IO20823@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>

Five of our eight distinguished scholars (4.0+) in highschool used LSD
as well as marijuana on a semi-regular basis. Who says druggies are stupid?
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From: cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: LSD recipies
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:22:19 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

In article <derek.717699686@cs.wisc.edu> derek@lynx.cs.wisc.edu (Derek Zahn) writes:
>> diethylamine.
>
>Even if it is watched, couldn't this be made rather simply from
>ammonia and ethyl bromide?

    No.  Any first-semester organic chemistry student should be able to
tell you why.
-- 
   ******************************************************************
     Howard Black                             cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu
     Department of Chemistry                  Eastern Illinois Univ. 
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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: [anonymous] Re: Nitrous Oxide
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:33:46 GMT

ap.5288@cupid.sai.com (Anonymous) writes:
: 
: Hi, I have a question about nitrous.
: 
: A while ago, someone said you could use Micronox fuel from Radio Shack.
: I just happen to have a couple of cylinders... it says on the back
: "must not be used as an inhalant".  I was wondering if this is because
: it isn't pure nitrous, or is it just to cover their ass?  Also, how
: many balloons does one of these cartridges fill?  Thanks.

You can bet your last penny that it is not medical grade N2O. Who knows
what all you are likely to be breathing?

Bill
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From: duve@ellis.uchicago.edu (michael andrew duvernois)
Subject: Re: Aconite and Belladonna
Reply-To: duve@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:01:44 GMT

After receiving a number of "Oh my, that could be dangerous" comments
regarding aconite and atropa belladonna, I post the following warning.

WARNING: Aconite and Belladonna contain POISONS (yes kids, they are
dangerous) and if you use them you could DIE or get sick or do something
stupid (like vote Republican) while under their influence.  Absolutely
never touch any herb, plant, or pretty flower unless you know what
you're doing.  Smarter people than you have been BURNED at the STAKE
for using herbal medications.  (Okay, everybody satisfied?)

Mike DuVernois   (Random person at the University of Chicago)


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From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: [anonymous] factoid...
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: anonymous
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 06:03:10 GMT


 I will be rational and I will be fair. By "easiest to synthesize" it is
meant _relative_ to the synthesis of other drugs. Your hostile attitude
is rather curious. I'm assuming you have a high caliber job at Lilly? I
mean I am assuming that your knowledge of chemistry is "precise". I know
what I know and if I don't know, I know where to look, if I don't find it
there I often ask on the net. I have been studying organic chemistry for
seven years or more outside of any kind of classroom. This is frustrating
as I am very lacking is lab skills, but I have been fortunate enough to go
to ao high school that _did_ do some simple organic synthesis labs. I hate
this attitude that it is all so very hard. Do automechanics argue about
how hard it is to fix cars? I've had enough of this type of attitude in
sci.chem. I can't accept it here. I would like to know how robust your
knowledge is in the field. I mean you act as if we've all been saying it's
like making Jell-o. Adjust you corn-cob sir...

St. Anthony

--
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From: ileicht@jarthur.claremont.edu (Spiff)
Subject: Re: BOOK RECOMMENDATIONS
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 04:10:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.165316.9181@ctp.com> ebail@ctp.com (Erik Bailey) writes:
>In article <207@mindlink.bc.ca> Marc_North@mindlink.bc.ca (Marc North) writes:
>>Hello all,
>>
>>I have returned from the bookstore with what appear to be two very good books
>>and I thought I would share my find with all of you.
>>
>>They are:
>>
>>LSD -- My Problem Child
>>    REFLECTIONS ON SACRED DRUGS, MYSTICISM, AND SCIENCE
>>    Albert Hofmann
>>
>>    Published by J.P. Tarcher, Inc.  1983
>>    ISBN  0-87477-256-7
>
>An online copy of this (really!) floated around here a few years ago; don't
>know if it still exists. I can't send it up because its on my mac and I'm
>modemless at the moment. But maybe someone else could point the net to it.
>I'm aware of the horrendous copyright problems with this, but I figure if
>the erotic pictures groups get away with it... :-) --Erik
>
>-- 
>Erik Bailey   | Cambridge Technology Partners      | The usual disclaimer
>              | 304 Vassar St., Cambridge MA 02139 | applies: this post is
>ebail@ctp.com | (617) 374-8418                     | mine, not my employer's.
>      /earth is 98% full; please remove any excess inhabitants.


check out world.std.com Its not in the /pub directory.. I forgot which it is
but you should be able to figure out. It has LSD my problem child online.

I also noticed someone asked Lamont to type in the works of shakespearre.. :)
Well its already been done... so maybe we could have him type in the Encylopedia
Britanica instead.. :)
From: jdiorio@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: FAQ Unarchiving software needed
Date: 6 Oct 92 06:42:07 GMT
Organization: Georgetown University

I need help!

I downloaded a number of FAQ's off the ftp but I don't have the 
software to unarc them.  I'm running on an IBM clone and need the DOS 
software.  Does anyone know what I should get and where (ftp site) I 
can get a copy?


Thanks
Jon
From: goddard@cae.wisc.edu (Goddard Denis)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Ephedrine: the inside dope.
Date: 3 Oct 92 03:24:49 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering

>In article <Bv54r5.HAE@Novell.COM> alex@otis (The Console DJ) writes:

>So what kind of effects on someone does ephedrine have??  I have seen it in p
>packages of 6 (not resealable so I assume that would be the dosage?) X 25mg??
>What detremental effects of any does it have?


 Ahem.
 I posted the following article a few weeks ago in this forum; I see that a reprint
is in order. For those of you who`ve seen it, press 'n' now.
 I hope some of you find it illuminating.


 from: _Drugs and Drug Abuse_, 2nd Ed., by: Cox, Jacobs, LeBlanc, Marshman,
and Fehr, 1987.



                  EPHEDRINE

Drug Class: CNS stimulant

 Ephedrine is a naturally occuring central nervous system stimulant obtained from
the plant _Ephedra equisetina_. It is now also produced by chemical synthesis, the
synthetic product being marketed in the form of its salt, ephedrine sulfate; it
occurs as a white crystalline powder with a bitter taste, soluble in water and very
soluble in alcohol. Ephedrine is closely related in structure to methamphetamine, 
although its CNS actions are much less potent and also longer-acting than those of
the amphetamines. Its peripheral stimulant actions are similar to but less powerful than
those of epinephrine (also called adrenaline), a hormone produced in the body by the
adrenal glands.
 
 Ephedrine has moderately potent bronchial muscle relaxant properties, and therefore
is used for symptomatic relief in milder cases of asthmatic attack; it is also used to
reduce the risk of acute attacks in the treatment of chronic asthma. The typical 
adult dose range is 30-60 mg taken orally, three to four times per day, in the form of
tablets. Ephedrine in the form of nose drops is also widely used to relieve nasal
congestion associated with upper respitory tract illnesses. It is also used to treat
low blood pressure, because it constricts blood vessels and stimulates certain actions 
of the heart. Common side effects are qualitatively similar to those produced by
amphetamines and are generally milder. Higher doses (overdose) can cause restlessness
and anxiety, dizziness, insomnia, tremor, rapid pulse, sweating, respiratory
difficulties, confusion, hallucinations, delerium, and (very infrequently) convulsions.
The most dangerous symptoms of overdose are abnormally high blood pressure and rapid, 
irregular heartbeat. A dose of ephedrine only two to three times the theraputic maximum
can cause a significant increase in blood pressure. The elderly are particularly 
sensitive to overdose, and there have been a few deaths among such patients. Finally,
a number of instances of psychosis, clinically similar to amphetamine psychosis, 
have resulted from chronic high-dose abuse; other effects of chronic abuse have not
been adequately studied.

 Tolerance develops to the main effects of ephedrine; however, temporary abstinence
restores sensitivity.
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From: hoxley@nyx.cs.du.edu (Herb Oxley)
Subject: Nicotine extraction from tobacco?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 05:26:19 GMT



I would be interested in any info regarding extraction of nicotine from
tobacco for the purpose of making my own nicotine transdermal patches as
opposed to spending the outrageous amount of money the FDA requires.
 
 
                                          Herb

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From: 901371d@dragon.acadiau.ca (@aucs.acadiau.ca)
Subject: need info on plant growth
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 20:23:06 GMT

I was wondering if anyone knows anything on diseases that can
harm marajuana plants.
 The only noticeable symtom is that the leaves in the middle and
top of the plant are turning white.
 I repeat,white,as in snow.They are not yellowing.
 I suspect that it is some type of mite.
Oh,and the plant is being grown indoors if that's of any help.
Thanz for the help in advanec,and I would really perfer mail because
I've been very busy with school lately.
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