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From: krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us (D. 'krikket' Krick)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: BofA and UW can now support discrimination against blacks and Jews
Date: 12 Sep 92 06:48:16 GMT
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

In article <1992Sep9.164759.14652@spdc.ti.com>, achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com
(Jeff Achenbach) writes:
>
>   Why does this bullshit keep cluttering the alt.atheism net? The subject
>has been homosexuality exclusively for well over a week. If I wanted to read 
>alt.homo I'd log into it. 
>
>Jeff Achenbach

Because homophobic assholes like you don't edit the header files, and the post
spews all over the rest of the Net...  (IE: chi.general, Goddess alone knows
why this LOCAL newsgroup was added to the list!)

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Newsgroups: chi.general
From: learn@sally.acns.nwu.edu (William J. Vajk)
Subject: Re: Public access sites?
Organization: Black Bag Midwest
Distribution: chi
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 02:09:22 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.115105.4919@gagme.chi.il.us> Russell J. Price writes:

>Does anyone have a list of all public access sites in the Chicago area?  I'm
>looking for something closer to Mokena (i.e. far south suburbs, near Orland
>Park).  Greg said that there used to be one in Orland Park (which would have
>been a local call), but it figures that it would have shut down before I
>heard about it. :-?

The site was called jolnet and was shut down when the US Secret service
arrived one day with search warrant in hand and hauled all the equipment
away.

The administrator was never charged with any computer related crimes.

What is most interesting is that the US Secret Service has had no 
problems voluntarily remaining the bad guys in all this.

Bill Vajk
From: lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us (Gerry Swetsky)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: chi.test
Date: 7 Sep 92 15:20:06 GMT
Organization: Vpnet Public Access

In article <krikket.7623@meltdown.chi.il.us> krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us (D. 'krikket' Krick) writes:
>
>I was just curious, so I asked...  In this case I find chi.test to be slightly
>annoying and was in a pissed-off mood, so I posted it in a slightly silly
>vengeful manner.  That's all!

    If you think *that's* annoying, what would you think if we didn't
    have chi.test and people were posting test messages all the time to
    chi.general and chi.places.  I don't know if there are any automat-
    ic echos on chi.test (are there?), but that's yet another purpose of
    the test newsgroups.

>>    Excuse me?  The words legal and illegal don't apply where alt is
>>    concerned.  I was speaking of Usenet.
>
>Once again, there *IS* a structure to how alt. groups are supposed to be
>formed. That and as I said earlier, for simplicity's sake, I often refer to the
>alt. groups as part of UseNet, an alternative group of newsgroups that many
>places don't carry...  Or is my understanding of the alt groups completely
>wrong in that fasion???

    I object to anyone considering alt as part of Usenet, however I am
    aware of the presence of alt.config and the "procedure" for creat-
    ing an alt newsgroup.  We went through it when we newgrouped
    alt.autos.antique.

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From: krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us (D. 'krikket' Krick)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: chi.test
Date: 6 Sep 92 13:21:31 GMT
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

In article <bclark.00jr@jupiter.chi.il.us>, bclark@jupiter.chi.il.us (Brian
Clark) writes:
>How can you convince people not to run CheckJunk type programs?  Not easily.
>The program can be run in a manner so that it mearly produces a listing of
>what newsgroups that could be blindly added to the newsgroups file exist in
>junk, and then the system administrator has the ultimate choice of if he/she
>wants to add them.  Its not completely automated then, but then another
>automated way would be to just let junk be junk and not run the CheckJunk
>type programs in the first place... which is probably how I would do it.

It's actually easier for me to have a few newsgroups created on my end that i
occasionally kill off than to deal with the junk directory on a daily basis...
Besides, I like the occasional illegal newsgroup that I get fed.  (The latest
example is alt.sex.woody-allan...)

And Brian, you're right.  I only rarely get the wrong newsgroup fed to this
system..  Amiserv gives me a nice clean feed overall, so I don't really worry
about it.  If something blatent happens, I'll catch it in no time anyways. 
(Hell, this computer Guru's every 8-12 hours as is...)

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Newsgroups: chi.test
From: glass@devl.fnal.gov (Michael Glass)
Subject: A Disorganized Test
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4  
Reply-To: glass@devl.fnal.gov
Organization: Fermilab, Batavia, IL
Distribution:  world
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:27:06 GMT

A disorganized test
From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us ()
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: Testing, testing         
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 09:10:03 CDT
X-Maildoor: WaflineMail 1.00r

>From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steve King)
>Testing, testing, testing...

This is a reply

 * SLMR 2.1 * On a clear disk you can seek forever
From: veck@ ()
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: Offnode Book II          
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 21:17:21 CDT
X-Maildoor: WaflineMail 1.00r

Does this make it offnode via SLMR?
Private=yes

 * SLMR 2.1 * My reality check just bounced.
From: veck@ ()
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: New post                 
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 08:58:52 CDT
X-Maildoor: WaflineMail 1.00r

This is a new post


 * SLMR 2.1 * Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up.
From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steve King)
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: Test
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 21:01:24 CST
Organization: PShrink Wrap BBS, Lake Zurich IL  +1 708 540 6772

Test post.

-- 
Steve King (veck@pshrink.chi.il.us)
PShrink Wrap BBS, Lake Zurich IL  +1 708 540 6772
From: veck@ ()
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: New post                 
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 09:01:56 CDT
X-Maildoor: WaflineMail 1.00r

This is a new post


 * SLMR 2.1 * Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up.
From: veck@ ()
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: Testing, testing         
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 08:58:55 CDT
X-Maildoor: WaflineMail 1.00r

>From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steve King)
>Testing, testing, testing...

This is a reply

 * SLMR 2.1 * On a clear disk you can seek forever
From: veck@ ()
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: New post                 
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 08:50:51 CDT
X-Maildoor: WaflineMail 1.00r

This is a new post


 * SLMR 2.1 * Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up.
From: veck@ ()
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: Testing, testing         
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 08:48:05 CDT
X-Maildoor: WaflineMail 1.00r

>From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steve King)
>Testing, testing, testing...

This is a reply

 * SLMR 2.1 * On a clear disk you can seek forever
From: veck@ ()
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: Testing, testing         
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 09:02:00 CDT
X-Maildoor: WaflineMail 1.00r

>From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steve King)
>Testing, testing, testing...

This is a reply

 * SLMR 2.1 * On a clear disk you can seek forever
From: veck@ ()
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: Testing, testing         
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 08:46:45 CDT
X-Maildoor: WaflineMail 1.00r

>From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steve King)
>Testing, testing, testing...

This is a reply

 * SLMR 2.1 * On a clear disk you can seek forever
From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us ()
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: New post                 
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 09:09:59 CDT
X-Maildoor: WaflineMail 1.00r

This is a new post


 * SLMR 2.1 * Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up.
From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steve King)
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: Is this thing on?
Date: 4 Sep 92 23:51:13 GMT
Organization: PShrink Wrap BBS, Lake Zurich IL  +1 708 540 6772

St. Vidicon of Cathode, see this message to the net...

-- 
Steve King (veck@pshrink.chi.il.us)
PShrink Wrap BBS, Lake Zurich IL  +1 708 540 6772
From: veck@ ()
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: Offnode?                 
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 21:17:18 CDT
X-Maildoor: WaflineMail 1.00r

Does this make it through SLMR and offnode?
private=no

 * SLMR 2.1 * Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up.
From: veck@ ()
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: New post                 
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 08:48:01 CDT
X-Maildoor: WaflineMail 1.00r

This is a new post


 * SLMR 2.1 * Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up.
From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steve King)
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: testing
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 21:25:21 CST
Organization: PShrink Wrap BBS, Lake Zurich IL  +1 708 540 6772

Testing, testing, testing...

-- 
Steve King (veck@pshrink.chi.il.us)
PShrink Wrap BBS, Lake Zurich IL  +1 708 540 6772
From: veck@ ()
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: Testing, testing         
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 08:50:55 CDT
X-Maildoor: WaflineMail 1.00r

>From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steve King)
>Testing, testing, testing...

This is a reply

 * SLMR 2.1 * On a clear disk you can seek forever
From: veck@ ()
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: New post                 
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 08:46:41 CDT
X-Maildoor: WaflineMail 1.00r

This is a new post


 * SLMR 2.1 * Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up.
                                          
Newsgroups: chi.test
From: piggy@gargoyle.uchicago.edu (La Monte Yarroll)
Subject: Looking for UUCP for the MAC.
Summary: I need a UUCP package for the Macintosh.
Keywords: MAC UUCP UUPC GNU
Reply-To: piggy@baqaqi.chi.il.us
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: chi
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:34:29 GMT

I'm looking for a UUCP package for the Apple Macintosh.  I've seen
UUCP running on a MAC--there even used to be 2 .chi.il.us sites
running on macs.  But both of the sites I knew about are gone now.

Names of packages would be helpful; sources would be even better.

La Monte H. Yarroll	Preferred:	piggy@gargoyle.uchicago.edu
   Work: piggy@mwc.com	Home:		piggy@baqaqi.chi.il.us
			often:		postmaster@clout.chi.il.us
From: mcdougal@cs.uchicago.edu (Tom McDougal)
Subject: local Internet access?
Followup-To: chi.mail
Organization: U. of Chicago Computer Science
Distribution: chi
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:26:29 GMT

A friend of mine would like to get an internet account just so
she can send/receive mail.  CompuServe is overkill, and she 
hopes there is something cheaper available.  Any advice?

Thanks in advance for the info.

-Tom

--------------------------------------------------------
Tom McDougal  (mcdougal@cs.uchicago.edu)  (312) 702-0024
From: mcdougal@cs.uchicago.edu (Tom McDougal)
Subject: Re: Looking for UUCP for the MAC.
Followup-To: chi.mail
Organization: U. of Chicago Computer Science
Distribution: chi
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:02:45 GMT

In article <piggy.716510069@gargoyle.uchicago.edu>,
piggy@gargoyle.uchicago.edu (La Monte Yarroll) wrote:
> 
> I'm looking for a UUCP package for the Apple Macintosh.  I've seen
> UUCP running on a MAC--there even used to be 2 .chi.il.us sites
> running on macs.  But both of the sites I knew about are gone now.
> 
> Names of packages would be helpful; sources would be even better.
> 
> La Monte H. Yarroll	Preferred:	piggy@gargoyle.uchicago.edu
>    Work: piggy@mwc.com	Home:		piggy@baqaqi.chi.il.us
> 			often:		postmaster@clout.chi.il.us

Hi La Monte.  I saw a uucp.3.0 and a gnuucp both on sumex-aim.stanford.edu,
in /info-mac/comm/.  Maybe one of those will do what you want.

Good luck!

-Tom

--------------------------------------------------------
Tom McDougal  (mcdougal@cs.uchicago.edu)  (312) 702-0024
Newsgroups: chi.mail
From: kdenning@portal.hq.videocart.com (Karl Denninger)
Subject: Re: Clout System Administrators' September minutes
Summary: B Class IP space?  Why?
Organization: VideOcart Inc.
Distribution: chi
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 17:59:05 GMT

In article <1992Sep07.021712.25636@vpnet.chi.il.us> lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us (Gerry Swetsky) writes:
>
>*New IP application.
>	La Monte will apply for a B level IP space on behalf of 
>	/usr/group/chicago.

Why is this necessary?  Is there a reason that a "C" class address would not
do?

--
Karl Denninger 		Inet:  kdenning@hq.videocart.com
VideOcart Inc.		Voice: (312) 987-5022

Newsgroups: chi.mail
From: piggy@gargoyle.uchicago.edu (La Monte Yarroll)
Subject: Re: Clout System Administrators' September minutes
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: chi
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:10:45 GMT

Karl Denninger writes:

>>*New IP application.
>>	La Monte will apply for a B level IP space on behalf of 
>>	/usr/group/chicago.
>
>Why is this necessary?  Is there a reason that a "C" class address would not
>do?

My original suggestion was for a class C, but we decided that it would
be horribly inadequate.  The problem is that our IP network will be more
WAN than LAN.  Essentially, we will need to provide a small subnet to each
site.

Currently there are over 100 sites in the .chi.il.us namespace, twice
the number we had only 1 year ago.  Even with modest growth we can
reasonably expect 500 sites in the next 5 years.  Most of these sites
are not yet capable of supporting SLIP, but with the availability of
KA9Q, the Linux TCP/IP project, BSD386, and the promised TCP/IP for
COHERENT, SLIP will become widely available in the next year or two.

Even with 4 bit subnetting we'd need 7 class C addresses for our
current installed base!  I'm sure the NIC would be thrilled to supply
us with 70 class C's :-)

Even with 2 bit subnetting we'd need 2 class C addresses NOW, and we'd
have to hand out multiple subnets to several sites which have more
than 4 machines.

I don't remember if this was in the notes, but the inspiration for
this came from Australia.  A group of UN*X users in Victoria set up
their own IP network which grew up in just 1 year.  It was initially
based on SLIP, but they were eventually able put in their own leased
line backbone.  Once they became an established IP network, it was
very easy for them to connect to the Internet as a separate network.

The schemes which I have heard discussed in the Chicago area to create
a high speed data network have all start with "How do we get Internet
access?".  The lesson from Australia is that if you build your network
first, the Internet will become interested in you.

La Monte H. Yarroll	Preferred:	piggy@gargoyle.uchicago.edu
   Work: piggy@mwc.com	Home:		piggy@baqaqi.chi.il.us
			often:		postmaster@clout.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: chi.mail
From: dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com (DWT)
Subject: Re: local Internet access?
Organization: Contributor Account at ddsw1, Chicago, Illinois  60657
Distribution: chi
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 16:06:24 GMT

mcdougal@cs.uchicago.edu (Tom McDougal) wrote in
<mcdougal-110992162601@tango.uchicago.edu>:

| A friend of mine would like to get an internet account just so
| she can send/receive mail.  CompuServe is overkill, and she 
| hopes there is something cheaper available.  Any advice?

If CompuServe is overkill, perhaps America Online or MCI Mail would be
within reason for her.

You omitted any information about her whereabouts.  There are several
public-access sites in metropolitan Chicago: off the top of my head I know
of city sites in Newtown, Belmont-Cragin, and Jefferson Park and suburban
systems in Wheeling, Schaumburg, Oak Lawn, Villa Park, and Lisle.  I can't
guess whether any are convenient local calls for her; you didn't even say
which continent she lives on.  (I'll make a bold assumption about the
planet.)

David W. Tamkin   Box 59297   Northtown Station, Illinois  60659-0297
dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com    CompuServe: 73720,1570    MCI Mail: 426-1818
Newsgroups: chi.mail
From: elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher)
Subject: Re: local Internet access?
Reply-To: elle@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: chi
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 23:30:26 GMT

mcdougal@cs.uchicago.edu (Tom McDougal) writes:
>A friend of mine would like to get an internet account just so
>she can send/receive mail.  CompuServe is overkill, and she 
>hopes there is something cheaper available.  Any advice?

America Online's much cheaper than CompuServe and seems to reach more
places, but wouldn't it be even easier and cheaper to get her a public-
access account?

From news.announce.newusers -- "Answers to Frequently Asked Questions":

  38. Is there a public access Unix system near me?  How can I get
      access to system for news and mail?

      Phil Eschallier posts a list of open access Unix sites (he calls
      them "Nixpub" sites) on a regular basis to the following
      newsgroups: comp.misc and alt.bbs. ...  Furthermore, a list of
      open access sites that are not necessarily Unix sites is posted
      regularly in alt.bbs.lists; see the postings entitled "NetPub
      listing" for more information.

(Incidentally, Tom, we _do_ also put these articles on our Gopher server
 and in /usr/local/doc, just in case they expire in the usual places.)

--
Ellen Keyne Seebacher            news@uchinews.uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: chi.eats
From: tndv@rainbow (Thompson Neil Doman)
Subject: Re: Indian restaurant?
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 16:59:33 GMT

Raj Darbar, 2350 N. Clark (just south of Fullerton).
Great place.  Try the chicken palak and chicken tikka.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Sunday, 6 Sep 1992 11:48:40 CDT
From: Francine Cannarozzi <U58664@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: chi.eats
Subject: Re: REVIEW: Babalucci (was:Call for Reviews)

Sure, I'll contribute:


Babalucci is a northern-style place located on Damen Avenue and Webster
Street, on the southwest corner, that's 2200 North, 2000 West.

The food has always been superb - I've eaten there at least 5 times. The
appetizers are varied, my favorite is the goat cheese with marinara
sauce served with warm, crunchy bread. The bread keeps coming, all through
the meal.

The menu leans toward pasta and veal or chicken dishes, with daily
specials.   My favorite is the Angel Hair Pasta a'la' Arrabiatta.
In Italian, "arrabiatta" translates as "flaming mad...hot", so this
dish is VERY spicy and VERY delicious.  A good selection of pizza,
either as appetizers or main dish. Other favorites include Tortelinni
with Cream Sage sauce, which was a daily special about a month ago.

Wine list is small, but good, with emphasis on Northern Italian whites.
There is a lounge on the second floor if you have to wait for a table,
which you do if you go on a weekend.  Try this place on week night -
usually no waiting. After 6pm, there is parking in a lot across the street.

Style is casual, prices are moderate.  Two, with a reasonable bottle of
wine, will run about $35-40.  The only negative point I've ever found is
that sometimes the wait service tends to be surly, but, then again, it
contributes to the atmosphere.
Newsgroups: chi.eats
From: valas@sdc.com (Chris Valas)
Subject: Re: REVIEW: Babalucci (was:Call for Reviews)
Organization: Systems Development Corporation
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:23:58 GMT

Francine Cannarozzi <U58664@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>
>Babalucci is a northern-style place located on Damen Avenue and Webster
>Street, on the southwest corner, that's 2200 North, 2000 West.
>
>The food has always been superb - I've eaten there at least 5 times. The
>appetizers are varied, my favorite is the goat cheese with marinara
>sauce served with warm, crunchy bread. The bread keeps coming, all through
>the meal.
>
>The menu leans toward pasta and veal or chicken dishes, with daily
>specials.   My favorite is the Angel Hair Pasta a'la' Arrabiatta.
>In Italian, "arrabiatta" translates as "flaming mad...hot", so this
>dish is VERY spicy and VERY delicious.  A good selection of pizza,
>either as appetizers or main dish. Other favorites include Tortelinni
>with Cream Sage sauce, which was a daily special about a month ago.
>

I've eaten at Babaluci a number of times (it's in my neighborhood) and
I have never found it to be "superb" except when I was drunk.  For my
money, there is better Italian food in the city, and certainly more
authentic if you care about that, even at modest prices.  For example,
I've had the arrabiatta dish on several occasions and it is inevitably
over-sauced -- swimming in a puddle of glop -- and under-spiced to
boot.

To be fair, many of the appetizers are quite good, and the pizza can
sometimes be astounding, but overall the kitchen is erratic.  I would
say it's worth a trip, but don't expect to be overwhelmed.


Chris Valas 						valas@sdc.com
Newsgroups: chi.wanted
From: stderic7@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu (Eric Camburn)
Subject: Available Babysitter
Organization: U of Chicago, SSPPCC
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:00:52 GMT

We are looking for a family with whom we can share
our babysitter.  We have known our sitter for nearly
three years.  She is wonderful with children.
Ideally, we'd like to share with someone who 
needs a sitter either in the morning or 
all day.  Please send all inquiries to:

abaeric7@spc.uchicago.edu (Eric Camburn)
Newsgroups: chi.wanted
From: ujabanco@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (John Abanco)
Subject: WANTED: SVGA (1024x768x256) 1MB Video card for under $60
Organization: Confounded Founders Foundation
Distribution: chi
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:18:46 GMT

My current setup is as follows:

640x480x256 VGA monitor by Emerson.
1024x768x16 SVGA 8800CS 512k Trident video board.

I want to upgrade one or both at the same time with minimum costs.
~p0|I can get a 8900C 1 Meg Trident for $60
Price quoted for a 1024x768 MGC-WEN SVGA monitor was for $279.

If anyone knows of a place that can get me a 1meg (I'd prefer an ET4000)
video card for under $60, please e-mail me.

If you know of a place that can give me a better price for a SVGA
monitor for under $279, please e-mail me.

Thanks.

-- 
--My life is such a mess,I end  | INTERNET: ujabanco@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu
  up typing.... umop apisdn.    | FIDONET :
        John Abanco             | john.abanco@f769.n115.z1.fidonet.org 
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Newsgroups: chi.wanted