HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: wkm@sei.cmu.edu (William McSteen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: SPRINGSTEEN MAILING LIST
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:41:04 GMT
Organization: Software Eng. Inst.;Carnegie-Mellon U.; Pittsburgh, PA 15213   _USA_


In article <1992Nov16.212908.1240@bcrka451.bnr.ca>, fwong@bnr.ca (Frank Wong) writes:
|> Thanks to all those who replied to my request for a SPRINGSTEEN
|> mailing list.
|> 
|> For anyone else interested in being added to the list :
|> send email with REQUEST in the header to 
|>    backsteets-request@fuggles.acc.virgina.edu
|> 
|> Frank
|> 

The correct Internet mailing address is:
    backstreets-request@fuggles.acc.virginia.edu
          ^                               ^

Other addresses that should work (although I've never tried them) are:
    BITNET: bs-req@virginia
    UCCP:   ...!uunet!virginia!backstreets-request


Bill
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: nudnik@camelot.bradley.edu (Steven Parks)
Subject: Re: NEW Matthew Sweet: Goodfriend
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: na
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:33:49 GMT

this summer i picked up sweet's "girlfriend:  the superdeformed CD" cd single.
there are four tracks:
1.  Girlfriend     (3:40) from the album _Girlfriend_.
2.  Superdeformed  (4:09) previously unreleased.
3.  Teenage Female (3:55) previously unreleased.
4.  Good Friend    (3:43) previously unreleased.

so i thought "Good Friend" was already out...  sort of.   =)
--
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From: harsha@ksr.com (Paul Harsha)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Top 4 Heroin songs of all time
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:41:11 EST

malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:

>So let's see, my top 4 songs about heroin (I couldn't think of 10):

>James Chance - "King Heroin"  - I'm rating this as teh top one because
>                                the singer was such a junkie at the time he's
>                                able to add an element of truth and pain in
>                                this rendition.

>James Brown -  "King Heroin"  - almost, but not quite as intense.            

>Velvet Underground - "Heroin" - personally I prefer Lou Reed's later epic
>                                tribute to amphetamines, METAL MACHINE MUSIC.  
> 
>Nina Hagen -   "Slapjack" (I may have the title wrong) - What can I say, Nina
>                                                         is incredible...

>Hmmm, there must be a few more I've overlooked. And it seems odd to me that 
>none of these folks are dead yet - there must be some good junkie songs by
>folks who went on to make the ultimate score...  


The Only Ones      - "The Beast"
Grant Hart         - "The Main"
Guns and Roses     - "Mr Brownstone"
Big Trouble House  - "Union Feed Grain Mill"
Johnny Thunders    - "Chinese Rocks" (actually by Dee Dee Ramone, the Ramones do it too)
Micronotz          - "Decide Tommorrow"
Neil Young	   - "Needle and the Damage Done" "Tonight's the Night"
The Ruts           - "H Eyes"
Love               - "Signed D.C."
Pusherman          - "Curtis Mayfield" (stretching it a little)

Remember that not all junkies o.d.  -- although many (Keith Richard's for
example) look like they did and just haven't realized it yet.  I can't even
remember what Mr. Thunders died of or if Stiv Bators or the guy from Flipper
or Janis Joplin ever wrote a song about heroin. 

-Paul
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Xref: sparky rec.music.misc:27770 alt.rock-n-roll:18378
From: 32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Movie stars in rock videos
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:39:22 GMT
Organization: Central Michigan University

Christine Applegate        "Rattlesnake Kisse"  -Electrric Angel
90210 Chic????            "Real Love"          -Slaughter


                    Doc
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: CHICAGO VIDEO!!!
From: t9014170@phillip.edu.au
Date: 18 Nov 92 11:57:04 EST
Organization: RMIT (Bundoora Campus)

Does anyone know anything about a new (i think) LIVE Chigago Video!
		I think its due Nov24.
				DOC!!!
From: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: The Ballistic Trajectory of Ray Shea
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:06:16 GMT
Reply-To: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Organization: Heurikon Corporation, Madison, WI

In article <4217@unisql.UUCP> ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:
>>It could equally be argued that no one knows who you are, nor
>>..., just because *you're* a faceless Usenet poster.  
 
>Not any more.  I got my name in the Subject line of a flame-war; can I
>bet a netgod, now, Greggy, puh-LEAZE?!

We'll avoid the obvious problem that the young man in question was
probably gettin' off training wheels when Ray first started posting
(I remember, for example, that his spelling used to be a lot worse ;-))
and get down to the real meat: Ray already *is* in the netgod pantheon,
and was before I ever got the note from midgard.com telling me that 
the net bridge to the realms of the net-gods had been opened to me. As
the other net.gods know, the note one receives looks a little like
a chain letter: there's a listing of 5 names, with yours appearing at
the bottom. These names are the most recent 5 ah...."promotions". All
I know is who was on my list: Erland, Al Crawford, Ray, and Andy Whitman.
Since the list is in alphabetical order [and those darned runes make
it tough to alphabetize until you get the hang of it], I have no idea
of order or rank [that's how it works]. It's telling in this context,
though, that Ray continues to sport the cloak of the mere mortal
when out in public. 

And finally, *why* is it that these questions only appear on the terminal
when *I'm* the only one logged into the system here at the netgod.condo
(I know - Clay's always off doing his show and Al's shopping).

Amusedly,
Greggy
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world/begun before I was born. In the far corner/the dead woman bows off stage
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train, is announced/I lived in one place. I want to die in another 608-828-3385
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl (Leo Breebaart)
Subject: Re: Ray Shea Goes Ballistic (was Re: Top 10 bands of all time)
Reply-To: leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:31:28 GMT

dmb@xbar.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett) flames Ray Shea:

> Just for the sake of argument, who, exactly, do *you* think is
> qualified to choose 10 bands as "the best?"  I hope you're not going to
> suggest that *your* musical knowldege is broad enough to do that.  And
> if you have a problem with the basic concept, why involve yourself in
> the discussion at all?

You don't have to know how to build a perpetual motion machine
yourself in order to succesfully point out that one particular example
doesn't work, or in order to engage in a discussion about them in
general.

> Point two (for the sake of argument):  Who ever said you should rank
> bands in order of their contribution?  

Presumably the person who first thought up the stupid subject "the ten
best bands ever", right?

> First of all, given the fact that you've said little about your own
> musical exposure in this thread, you shouldn't expect any one else to
> view *your* opinions as worthwhile either (to us, anyway).

Bullshit. Everybody who would actually *read* rec.music.info for
longer than say three weeks instead of starting up some stupid thread
for the umpteenth time two hours after first discovering the group
would know plenty about Ray Shea's musical exposure, because he has
been one of r.m.misc's most regular contributors for years.

Secondly, even if all you've ever heard in your entire bloody life was
Rush or Debbie Gibson you can write an interesting article about
something and deserve to be heard, and you *won't* get flamed by Ray
Shea.

Ray certainly doesn't need me to defend him, but I can't sit still
while you keep accusing him of things he did not do: he is not saying
that someone's views are worthless because we don't 'know his musical
exposure' -- he is saying someone's views are worthless precisely
because they are revealed to be extremely *narrow* views, and because
they are being presented to us as facts.

-- 
Leo Breebaart  (leo @ ph.tn.tudelft.nl)
From: rjc@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Caley)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Sinead Recommendations Wanted
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:47:34 GMT
Organization: Human Communication Research Center
In-reply-to: neve@nlm.nih.gov's message of 16 Nov 92 14:03:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.140319.7108@nlm.nih.gov>, Leif Neve (ln) writes:

ln> Has Sinead done any CD's since [I do not want...] that you folks
ln> would rate as being of comparable worth?

She only has three albums:

	The Lion and the Cobra
	I do not want...
	Am I not Your Girl

The last is an album of classic songs with attached political rant (:-)).
Good, but very different. If you liked her stuff on I Do Not Want...
then The Lion and The Cobra will probably blow you away. It's rather
less smooth, lots of emotion and interesting arangements. I'm really
interested to see where she goes from here.

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From: degroomp@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: The Real 10 best bands of all time
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:25:14 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

Ok, guys now it is time for you all to see the TRUE 10 best
bands of all time.

1) Velvet Underground
2) Beatles
3) The Cure
4) Talking Heads
5) Ramones
6) Sex Pistols
7) The Clash
8) They Might Be Giants
9) Laibach
10) The Lawrence Welk Orchestra

Now that you have been enlightened please stop your mindless
squabbling and start talking about real topics.... 

			Love,
			Matt deGrood
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: bschlesinger@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Barry Schlesinger)
Subject: Re: Voulez-Vous couchez avec moi, ce soir?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:09:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.035826.15532@tamsun.tamu.edu>, jeff@dewey.tamu.edu (Jeff Raymond) writes...
>In article <BxyyE9.KIr@gabriel.keele.ac.uk> u0f98@keele.ac.uk (The Dominator) writes:
>>
>>Can someone please tell me the group who sang this (the subject title
>>being the chorus) and what exactly the song was called?
> 
> 
>Well, I can help you halfway.  I can't recall (or perhaps have blocked out)
>the name of the group, but the song was called "Lady Marmalade" -- God, I
>haven't heard that since before I was in high school.
> 

Labelle (led by Patti).
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll,alt.music.alternative
From: ramon@convex.com (Ramon Dominguez)
Subject: Re: Bands with self-titled songs?
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:49:02 GMT
Organization: The Arts Babblative and Scribblative
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <BxvpqD.Ayn@news.cso.uiuc.edu> csedlack@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Christopher Sedlack) writes:
=>How about "They Might Be Giants" by They Might Be Giants?
=>(On the _Flood_ album_)
=>
=>Chris Sedlack
=>
=>csedlack@uiuc.edu
=>
=>

Black Sabbath


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From: dmb@case.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: The magic of Boney-M
Date: 15 Nov 1992 23:11:11 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: case.ai.mit.edu

In article <9211141902.AA00179@nyx.cs.du.edu> spandian@nyx.cs.du.edu (Kanmani) writes:
>
>  Any fans of Boney-M in this newsgroup?
>  I like Boney-M a lot, and my favourite Boney-M
> songs are `Rivers of Babylon', `night flight to
> venus', `Rasputin', `ribbons of blue' and a lot
> more. 

Wow, what a blast from the past.  I had no idea Boney-M were known at
all outside Europe (are they, really?)  I remember seeing them around
1978 playing cheezy Pop-40 shows on German TV.

Are they still around?  "Rivers of Babylon" and "Night Flight to Venus"
are from the mid-70's!  (Think I still have that dusty old tape around
somewhere.  At least it's not an 8-track.)

Dave Baggett
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From: jrkst13@icarus.lis.pitt.edu (Julie Koontz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: REBA
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:18:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: jrkst13@icarus.lis.pitt.edu

a
Are there any Reba fans out there besides me?  No one seems to write about
her.  Well, I think she is great; and her new single "Take It Back" is a
good blues-type song.  The video for it is fantastic.  Nashvile (Nashville)
Now had the World Priemer of it sometime last week.  The National Record Mart
has the date for her new album (It's Your Call) release Dec. 15.  If there
is anyone else out there that likes her--let's hear from you!
    
C
B
l
aJulie Koontz

Julie Konn(Koontz)
From: crj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: RE: Reba and good country artists
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:51:33 EST
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

My daughter is a REBA fan.  Thru her so am I.  My daughter also joined Reba's
fan club and has managed to fill in her collection of CDs.  Reba is a fine
singer and a decent person, unlike so many of the other so-called "country"
singers.  I my opinion and it has been formed by attending concerts like:
Highway 101, Garth Brooks, Travis Trit; they have reverted to the rock styles
of a generation ago.  Lost the country sound.  Reba is still country and we
love her for that.


Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: templon@paramount.nikhefk.nikhef.nl (Jeffrey Templon)
Subject: Re: Eagles (Re: The only good country artist)
Organization: NIKHEFK
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:11:53 GMT

thughes@lonestar.utsa.edu (Toby . Hughes) writes:

>In article <1ehdprINNrg2@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> indigo@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (indigo) writes:

>>Okay, smart-aleck.  You wouldn't call these country?:
>>
>>Lyin' Eyes
>>Take It Easy
>>Seven Bridges Road
>>Peaceful Easy Feeling
>>Tequila Sunrise
>>Best of My Love
>>New Kid in Town

>Recording a good country song at sometime in your career does NOT make
>you a 'country band.'  BTW, for the record, the Eagles are my favorite
>'soft rock' group.

Actually this just shows that one must be careful with categories
of music, since hardly anybody calls 'em the same.  Eagles are
"country rock" to me.  Air Supply is "soft rock".  I could never
categorize such songs as "Victim of Love" or "Already Gone"
as soft rock.  Actually "soft rock" doesn't exist.  More like
"baby poop".  But then again that's just my opinion!

And then again, I'd never call an Eagles LP like "The Long Run"
country anything.

>>(By the way, Don Henley sings harmony on two songs on Trisha Yearwood's
>>new album.)

>He also sang harmony with Stevie Nicks on "Leather and Lace."

He also had Axl Rose sing on one of his albums.

					JT
From: pwilson@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Pete Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: who sings this
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:29:17 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo

In article <1992Nov18.040209.19791@Princeton.EDU> blofgren@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Brent M. Lofgren) writes:
>Does anyone else out there feel alienated by the great number of country
>songs in which Dixie is praised?  Or the USA as a whole, for our friends
>in Canada, Europe, and elsewhere?  A while ago, someone mentioned that
>country is an attitude, rather than just a genre of music, and has to do
>with a place.  However, the part of the country which I grew up in,
>instead of having "High Cotton", had high snowdrifts during the winter,
>and sunflowers, wheat, sugar beets, etc. during the summer.  I had some
>relatives who hailed from Gatzke, MN, who were in a country group called
>the Back Behind the Barn Boys for several years, and I would cringe to
>hear these young men who had always lived almost within sight of the
>Canadian border sing such things as "The South's Gonna Do It Again" and
>"I Was Born in Alabama" in voices which still have a strong influence
>from our ancestors who came from Norway and Sweden over 100 years ago.
>
>After all of that rambling, the point is that I don't appreciate the
>tendency that country music has for regional chauvanism and national
>chauvanism, and think that it might enhance the enjoyment of country
>music for many people if this were less frequent.
>
>Brent
>

   I am a Canadian, who likes country music.  It's a bit of a dilemna
for me that country music is such an American idiom.  It's hard to
stay true to country music traditions without sacrificing a sense of
national identity.  Anne Murray sings that she can see Arkansas across
the Memphis bridge, but she has damn good eyes if she can see Arkansas
from Springhill Nova Scotia.  Nevertheless there are a relatively small
number of Canadian artists who are putting out a distinctive Canadian
sound, (Pat Conroy, Joan Kennedy, Code of the West, Terry Sumsion
amongst others), and I guess the point is that the music is good and
that's essentially what matters.
  In a more general sense I am a bit distressed by the prevalence of
ignorant, backwards attitudes expressed in country music, but the answer
to that is that country music is an idiom that expresses what people
are feeling, which isn't always what I think they should be feeling.  
Generally speaking I can live with that unless they start punching me
or shooting at me.  (Neither of which is all that remote a possibility
unfortunately).

.pw
From: kaldis@romulus.rutgers.edu (Theodore A. Kaldis)
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: who sings this
Date: 23 Nov 92 04:07:54 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Nov18.040209.19791@Princeton.EDU> blofgren@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Brent M. Lofgren) writes:

> Does anyone else out there feel alienated by the great number of
> country songs in which Dixie is praised?

No.  [And I'm originally from Colorado, BTW.]

> Or the USA as a whole, for our friends in Canada, Europe, and
> elsewhere?

Let the Canadians worry about Canadians, and the Europeans about
Europeans.  This past summer, I took a 3-week vacation to Europe,
during which time I heard precious little country music.  Once on the
airliner to head back home, I plugged my headphones into the armrest
and promptly found the country channel.  While listening to Alan
Jackson sing "Playing Possum", it struck me that this was a music
which was as distinctly American as I am.  Here I was on an American
airliner happy to be on my way home, and listening to music which I
enjoy.  Who cares about the Canadians, the Europeans, and the others.
We have our music, they have theirs.

> A while ago, someone mentioned that country is an attitude, rather
> than just a genre of music, and has to do with a place.

Absolutely!  I grew up in a land with a heritage.  The pioneers who
tamed the wild frontier passed on a tiny bit of their experience in
their music, which gives us only a small glimpse of who they were.  My
favorite style of music is Western music, e.g., "Ghost Riders in the
Sky", a genre which I don't hear very much of these days, at least not
on the radio.

> [...]

> After all of that rambling, the point is that I don't appreciate the
> tendency that country music has for regional chauvanism and national
> chauvanism,

So why listen?

> and think that it might enhance the enjoyment of country music for
> many people if this were less frequent.

To remove these features from country music would detract from its
character, and would _DIMINISH_, not enhance, my enjoyment of this
music.  I'm an American and I'm proud of it -- and I would like my
music to reflect this fact, not conceal it.
-- 
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my own only.  Do you seriously      ||  kaldis@remus.rutgers.edu
believe that a major university as  ||  {...}!rutgers!remus.rutgers.edu!kaldis
this would hold such views???       ||
Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
Subject: Re: Garth Brook's 'Friends in Low Places'
From: <KANTOLA@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:28:57 CST
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network

In article <1eccsoINNn2@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, chev@wpi.WPI.EDU (Kevin William Waid)
says:
>
>I heard that Garth has a third verse to 'Friends in Low Places' while
>in concert.  Since I was unable to attend any of these concerts, is it
>true?a7And if it is, does anyone know the lyrics?  Thanks in advance!
>
I'm not sure of the exact words but I've heard the "(end of verse)-> you can
kiss my ass!! (chorus)-> I've got friends...." part when it's played at
parties.  If you don't get any replies I'll ask my friend.  She always sings
that verse when listening to the orginal.

                                      Keith (KANTOLA@VM1.NODAK.EDU)

Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: green@cs.uiuc.edu
Subject: Re: Garth Brook's 'Friends in Low Places'
Keywords: Garth Brook's 3rd verse
Organization: Dept. of Computer Sci - University of Illinois
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:38:45 GMT




	

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Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: dil.admin@mhs.unc.edu (Dave Laudicina)
Subject: Country Music For Kids
Organization: UNC Office of Information Technology
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:36:30 GMT

Let's start another thread. I purchased a cd called Country Music
for Kids on Disney label. It is produced by Herb Pedersen and has 
various country singers guest lead singing on the cuts. It is a 
wonderful record which my daughter loves. One of the cuts is a 
version of b-i-n-g-o sung by Merl Haggard that you hum for the rest
of the day after hearing it. Any other records for kids to recommend.



Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: aan3q@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Arlyn Newcomb)
Subject: Re: who sings this
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:05:31 GMT

Oops.  Silly me.  Michelle Wright!  

Darn!

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Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western
From: thughes@lonestar.utsa.edu (Toby . Hughes)
Subject: Re: The only good country artist
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:47:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.181511.429@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com> djohna@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (John Ackerman 3568) writes:
>thughes@lonestar.utsa.edu (Toby . Hughes) writes:
>:
>: Right, who can forget that Nashville classic "Hotel California?"
>:
>  Well maybe "Desperado" might be considered.

Or "Take It to the Limit?"


>: Bing Crosby once put out an album of cowboy songs called "Don't
>: Fence Me In."  I guess that makes him the Marty Robbins of the 1940's.
>:
>  You are obviously a most *mature* C&W listener...
>

VERY mature.

>: Waiting with thirsty ear for the ultimate country collaberation, the
>: Jacksons (Michael and Allen).
>:
>  Do you mean Alan?
>
>  Or is Allen Jackson a race car driver?
>
>  Hmmmmm......

If you can't fault the logic, go for the grammar and spelling.

Hmmmmmm......

Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western