From: mwasserm@diana.cair.du.edu (MARC Y. WASSERMAN)
Subject: Re: Two Doctors No-Prizes (*SPOILERS for 2Drs*)
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 01:57:30 GMT

In article <14652@umd5.umd.edu> jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...) writes:
(Before, I wrote:)
>>Besides, part of the Two Doctors was innacruate too, as far as I
>>can tell.  Jamie never traveled solo with the Doctor--he was always
>>with Zoe or Victoria.  I may be missing something there though.

>You are, but it was only a throwaway line.  In the first scene in the
>TARDIS, they implied that they'd dropped Victoria off somewhere to study
>graphology while they were off on this mission for the Time Lords.  Then
>again, there's also the problem that (a) the TARDIS at that point wasn't
>reliable enough to go back to anyplace where they'd dropped Victoria off,
>and (b) Jamie and Victoria never knew about the Time Lords.

Well, the TARDIS has always been unpredictable.  But occasionally
it works, maybe the 2nd Doctor had gotten it working for a bit.
And it is possible that Jamie or Victoria knew about the Time Lords.
Zoe hadn't heard of them until "War Games" but we don't know for
sure that the Doctor didn't tell Jamie something about them. 

>Perhaps the best way to resolve that one would be to combine the two
>approaches -- the Time Lords took the Doctor and Jamie out of their normal
>life-streams for this mission.  Victoria wasn't interested in going along,
>so they dropped her off somewhere.  Controlling his TARDIS automatically
>throughout the story, they brought the second Doctor to the space station.
>After the whole story ended, they took the Doctor and Jamie back, re-united
>them with Victoria, removed their remote control device (or did they???  :-)
>and dropped them back into their time-stream.  That solves the problems of
>them knowing about the Time Lords, the Victoria question, and the "why
>didn't he recognize Peri" question all at once.  As far as they in their
>normal life-stream remembered it, all of this never happened.

Except that the Two Doctors was not controlled by the Time Lords.
The sixth Doctor quoted at one point, "Peri, when you travel around as
much as I do you're bound to meet yourself sometime".  The whole
things seems to be coincidence.  The Time Lords were never involved.
Besides, why would Victoria not want to go?  It still happened.
Sure, maybe "Five Doctors" and "Three Doctors" can be explained by
"they were taken out of their time streams, went through the adventure
and returned none the wiser."  But Two Doctors can't be explained that
way.  So the Second Doctor should have known Peri.  I think the best
explination is too much time passed between #2 and #6 for the second
Doctor  to remember her.
 
>Now, the ultimate No-Prize goes to anyone who can figure out why it was the
>SIXTH Doctor at that particular moment in time who was affected by the
>attack on the second Doctor... or even why anyone was affected at all,
>considering that the Doctor's experience in the agonizer was later revealed
>as a fake.

Storyline.  And perhaps proximity.  We know the Doctors have a
"Link" to each other (as in Three Doctors).  Maybe #6 was close
enough to get the effect, whereas #'s 1, 3, 4, 5, 7 and who knows
how many more might have been somewhere else or have felt only
minor effects.  Best explination I can think of.  Who knows about
the agonizer.  Someone want to follow up?

Marc Wasserman
mwasserm@diana.cair.du.edu
 

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