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From: Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.YCC.YALE.EDU (Go GIANTS!)
Subject: Re: Raiders/Giants 4:00PM
Organization: Yale University Computing & Information Systems
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:18:40 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.174111.8124@ntmtv> weitzeka@ntmtv.UUCP (Keith Weitzel) writes:
>From: weitzeka@ntmtv.UUCP (Keith Weitzel)
>Subject: Re: Raiders/Giants 4:00PM
>Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:41:11 GMT

>In article <1992Oct2.234546.27943@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn) writes:
>>
>>  As a fellow Giant fan, I second your enthusiam for Sunday's contest
>>with the 0-4 Raiders.  Last Monday night, I watched in awe as KC's
>>offensive line along with the crushing running of Word and then Okoye
>>obliterated the Raider defense...look for much of the same on Sunday,
>>especially in the second half after Jumbo and company have worn down
>>ol' Howie and his desperado's.  Look for Simms to have a good day
>>utilizing a number of receivers and running some nifty play action
>>stuff. 

>Now it is time to eat your words;


Please pass the lemon and salt (my words are like Tequila right about now, 
it felt good going down, but the aftertaste is HELL)

>Simms just had a really great second half, scoring a total of
>0 points.  Here is to Tim Brown and Gault for their job when
>they "obliterated" The Gaints sceondary in the second half.
>   FINAL: RAIDERS 13 giants 10

ooouch

>A die hard RAIDER fan, 
>I bleed silver and black

Adriene L. Nazaretian        
Yale University              
ADRIENE@YALEADS.BITNET        
ADRIENE@YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU
From: garyr@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Gary Rosen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Rating the QBs
Date: 8 Oct 92 07:40:52 GMT
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA

>gary@colossus.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary Strand) /  2:43 pm  Oct  6, 1992 /

>Take away Rice, Taylor, and Craig, and I bet Joe Montana would
>  not have had such a spectacular career.

What about the first half of Montana's career, before Rice and Taylor
became impact players?  Clark and Solomon were fine receivers but not
Hall of Famers and no better than the receivers of many other good QB's
(Marino comes to mind).  Then there was the '81 Super Bowl winner, whose
leading running back was the legendary Ricky Patton.  Compared to the
other "decade" teams ('60s Packers and '70s Steelers) the Niners were
not nearly as flush with all-pros and HOF'ers but they had
near-comparable success.  Even if you claim the competition was not as
good (tell that to Giants', 'Skins', and Bears' fans!) it is damn tough
in any era to win multiple championships and especially to repeat (see
Phoenix over Wash. last Sunday).  Montana was the ONLY key offensive
player to play on all four Super Bowl winners.  And the Niners were much
more passing-oriented and therefore dependent on the QB than the Packers
and Steelers.  Rice, as good as he is, has not had quite as
great stats in the season-and-a-third since Joe last played.
There is plenty of evidence that Joe made others look good as there is
for the opposite contention.

- Gary Rosen
From: un032221@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Joe Gibbs/ Redskins win SB XXIX
Date: 16 Oct 92 12:33:59 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

In article <psima01.718549036@convex>, psima01@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (M. Maisack) writes:
> Oct 1992: The Redskins lose against the Broncoes by virtue
>           of a late drive by John E. and witha 2-3 record
>           are virually out of this year's contention.
>           they finish 7-9

Not.
> 
> Jan 1995 (+/- 1 year)
>          Joe Gibbs and the Skins win SB 29(+/- 1) over Houston
>          It is JG's 4th SB with his 4th QB.
> 
I think 1994 if Ryp isn't the bizarre fluke I see him as.  If he is, Conklin
will need time to develop, so dependng on how fast Ryp proves me right, it
should take three seasons after Conklin gets his first full season of starts.

> Oct 1995: The Redskins lose..... (insert John Elway's grandson)...
> 
> why is it that coach Joe Gibbs can build SB teams in somehting
> like 4 year intervals, but not a repeating team?
> or is it Washingtonitis?
> 
> Michael
> 
Well, probably because Gibbs' teams have been hit with the same unfortunate set
of circumstances that keep all but the few and the fortunate out.  In 87, they
were full of themselves, had alot of team discord, and major QB troubles.  This
year, except for the discord you have the same thing, but with more injuries. 
I still don't respect Rypien, and the idiot is finally proving me right, though
it is a year after he proved me wrong :"(

> and where are salt and pepper once I get to eat those words? ;-)

	-Skins fan with just one thing to say: "WAY TO GO MONK!!!"
From: 32BFPQ3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU (Nathan Owen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Oilers waive receiver Harris
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:17:13 GMT
 <1992Oct15.135858.26774@cis.ohio-state.edu>
 <1992Oct15.161634.16972@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
Organization: Central Michigan University

In article <1992Oct15.161634.16972@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, tkelsey@cbnewsf.cb.att.com
(todd.p.kelsey) says:
>
>In article <1992Oct15.135858.26774@cis.ohio-state.edu>
>martens@python.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens) writes:
>>
>>Did Green Bay sign Harris?  I read that if he cleared waivers, the
>>Oilers wanted to sign him to their practice squad.  Certainly the
>>Packers need someone to replace the stiff (Sanjay Beach) starting
>>opposite Sterling Sharpe.
>>
>
>The Packers did sign Harris.  To make room for him they waived
>Buford McGee.  I was a bit suprised to see McGee cut rather than
>Harry Sydney, since McGee was the better blocker.  I guess Holmgren
>decided he wanted the player most familiar with his system.

Well the Packer now have two young talents to develop at the WR spot opposite
Sharpe.  Robert Brooks of South Carolina, and Corey Harris of Vanderbilt.  Both
were 3rd round draft picks.  I surprised Harris made this far up the waver
wire to the Packers.  I would have expected Seattle or somebody else to pick
him up.  I'm not complaining though... I'm starting to like this Ron Wolf guy.
From: tino@huey.met.fsu.edu (Vincent Tino)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: TEAM ADDRESSES
Keywords: Rams, LA, Addresses
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:06:41 GMT
Organization: Department of Meteorology


Does anyone out there have the address of the L.A. Rams club.  One of
my former students (Pat Carter) plays tight end there and I'd like to
get in touch with him.

If anyone has the address, could you please send it to me.

tino@ray.met.fsu.edu




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*************************------- GO SEMINOLES -------**************************
Organization: Masters student, Urban and Public Affairs, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro,cmu.misc.market
Date: Fri,  9 Oct 1992 09:19:14 -0400 
From: Brennan Kraje <nk0s+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Monday Night FB TIX SALE


    Sorry folks, tickets have been sold...

                                - Brennan

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From: chill@cbnews.cb.att.com (daniel.a.miller)
Subject: Re: John Elway's Comebacks.
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:25:05 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.170111.23894@ncar.ucar.edu> gary@colossus.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary Strand) writes:
>
>  Really? ~30 wins over 10 seasons do not mean "jack shit"? The Broncos would
>  not have made the SB without those wins, so they *are* important. Remember,
>  two of Elway's comebacks got the Broncos into the SB. Too bad Montana could
>  not do the same against the Giants in 1990.
>

	Well I tell you what, you ask most of the players that have been to
Super Bowls and lost, I'll bet they would say the season didn't mean much
because they did not win the big one! The Bronco's as a team will NEVER be
remembered as a GREAT Team unitl they make it to the Super Bowl and WIN!!

	If not, the only person that will be remembered is BIG JOHN, and
his successful 2:00 drills.

- Dan



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From: keithg@boi.hp.com (Keith Glasson)
Subject: Re: BEWARE PHILLY FANS! WATCH THE TRASH TALKING..
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 12:06:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: work
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE (delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu) wrote:
: 
: 
: 
: 
:   I can't stand:        I wholly support:
: 
:   Raiders               Bills


	This will make many Raider fans very happy. Keep hating.
From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: Redskins
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:32:09 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.212729.14577@news.iastate.edu>, jefhkahn@iastate.edu (Jeffrey H Kahn) writes:
>I'm a Redskins fan stuck in Iowa.  I don't get
>to hear too much Skins news out here, much less see
>all of the games.  Is there a group (either organized
>or unorganized) out there that communicates about the Redskins?
>Please post information here or email me.

There is a local newsgroup called dc.redskins.  You'll have to check your
site to see if they carry it.  Traffic has been pretty low lately, probably
due to the team's depressing performance.

ObSkinsFan:  Get well, AJ!  We need you.

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
From: austin@cs.widener.edu (Jeff Austin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Keith Jackson - how did he do?
Date: 12 Oct 1992 12:19:45 -0400
Organization: Widener University CS Department, Chester PA
NNTP-Posting-Host: shirley.cs.widener.edu

Miami (and Eagle) fans:

	Well, I was so busy crying while KC walked all over Philly that I
	missed the Miami-Atlanta game.  Can anyone tell me (unbiased of
	course) how well (or shitty) Keith Jackson played?  Please Please
	Please say he sucked so bad that Shula made him the official team
	idiot!
				Jeff
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: Free Agency
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 12 OCT 92 16:02:50    

In article <ldipceINNfuh@cronkite>, andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM (Andy Knipp SE Andersen) writes...

>In article 20134@macc.wisc.edu, heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
>> In article <1992Oct9.090100.667@totaltec.com>, mark@totaltec.com writes...
>> >If they are not competing then why bother signing a Keith Jackson or a Webster
>> >Slaughter?? That only drives up the cost of operating the team by increasing
>> >player salaries ????
>> 
>> Because they are competing against other forms of entertainment like 
>> baseball and watching the lawn grow.  A winning team is good for 
>> attendance.  A couple of home playoff games is *really* good for 
>> attendance.
> 
>Which is (*sigh*) why the Bears will not sign any decent free agents.
>They still get good attendance,  whatever their record.  Winter games
>will have a bunch of noshows,  (watch a game in Soldier Field in December
>& you will understand why),  but they will still be popular.  There are just
>too many people in the Metro Chicago area so filling up SF at 65K is
>not tough.

There's still home field advantage for the playoffs to be earned.

JGH
From: v067ftek@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (TIMOTHY M. MCCARTHY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: The FISH EAT BUFFALFO MEAT!
Keywords: FISH EAT BUFFALO BILLS!
Date: 9 Oct 92 05:24:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


>>>And No, before the Buffalo fanatics go beserk. My comments
>>>are not in retribution for the Bills outscoring the Niners
>>>earlier this year.

Then what is the point??
It seems to me that the fun is in hanging yourself on a limb
and risking being called stupid by making your stand BEFORE
the game is played.
Then you either revel in your glory or suffer ignominious
defeat along with your team.

Simply rehashing what everyone saw (or almost everyone) serves
no other purpose than for spites sake.

>Thank you for noticing. Amazingly you show exhibited alot of
>restraint. Let's be honest, I am,...
Puhh-leeeze!	Re-stating facts of a game hardly rates as HONESTY!

>If you remember my posts
>regarding the Bill win over the 49ers, I gave credit where
>credit was due.
THANK YOU! I hope it was to the offense and not the dee!!

>I am actually am showing alot more restraint 
>than most OR some of the Bill fanatics. If you want a flame
>started, then it is your turn, if not, please accept the defeat
>of the Bills by a Superior Miami TEAM.

I whole-heartedly agree that Miami was the superior team on Sunday
I believe there are 11 more games left to determine which is the
superior team overall in the AFC-EAST.
As for FLAMES, YOU WROTE THE LETTER WHICH BORE THE FLAMES MY FRIEND.
The tone and style of your article BEGGED for reply and YOU KNOW IT.
If you are as honest as you claim, then you will admit to that!
If not, we still have our answer in the form of your post.

>Like Kelly said on
>his postgame interview: "We got our ASS kicked, point blank",
>or something to that effect. In fact, none of the Bills were
>whining (the PLAYERS that is) and I respect that. I hope YOU
>Bills fans follow suit and swallow your pride.

The game is history, we already have.  We just want our team to do
their best not to let it happen again.
History shows they've been pretty good at putting these things behind
them.  Now they must solve the schemes which cause them
T Mac
Peace! 
>  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	
>  "Fact are facts and will not disappear on account of 
>   your likes."  -   Jawaharlal Nehru <--Wise man, with a keen eye
					  for the obvious.
From: johndoe@squid.inmet (johndoe)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: question to Pats fans re: Veris
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:27:23 GMT
Organization: Intermetrics, Inc.

In article <1992Oct8.171928.14404@morrow.stanford.edu> GC.SUL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Sullivan) writes:
>Pats fans - has Garin had problems with other players on Patriots
>or is this just the usual bad reporting job?  A problem with
>management would be expected, big deal, but I can't imagine him
>not getting along with other players.

from what i understand, veris was popular among the rest of the players on
new england in the past, and they expressed both happiness for veris that he
won his court case against the nfl and sadness that they will not be playing
with him in the future.  this hardly seems like veris had problems w/ other
players.

and, of course, any report of player problems with patriots management
*must* be a complete distortion by the press ... (don't hurt yourself
laughing!)

>Mike

-johndoe
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: daled@meaddata.com (Dale Drummond)
Subject: Re: David Shula
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:39:15 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Oct12.050423.28404@col.hp.com>, kary@col.hp.com (Dan Kary) writes:
|> What do the Cincinnati fans, press, players, and front office think of new
|> head coach David Shula?  The Bengals started out OK, but things have been
|> down hill the past few weeks.
|> 
Shula gets high marks for this organizational skills, and the team seemed
to be fired up at the beginning of the season.  Their defensive success
was due to generating turnovers.  Now that they're not getting them, and
they've lost their two best linebackers (Bentley and Walker), the
defense doesn't seem to have much heart.  I don't know if Shula is capable
of getting the team motivated, especially on defense, but there are
enough problems with the personnel that no one seems to be pointing the
finger at Shula yet.  

|> Dan (Dolphin fan wondering how the chip off the old block is doing) Kary

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From: rja@redwood26.cray.com (Russ Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Vikes amazing stat
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:10:07 GMT
Organization: The 1991 World Champion Minnesota Twins!
Originator: rja@redwood26


Through 5 games, the Vikes opponents have yet to be called for
offensive holding.  With Doleman, Thomas, Noga, and Randle playing
good, I think that nice of the other team not to hold them.  :-)

Coach Green has made sure the league office is aware of the situation...

-- 
Russ Anderson    |  Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
------------------              upon my employer or anyone else.  (c) 1992
EX-Twins' Jack Morris, 10 innings pitched, 0 runs (World Series MVP!)
From: tap1040@venus.tamu.edu (SPEED RACER)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Mr. Aaron Perkins, a.k.a.  CAPS-LOCK
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:50:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: venus.12OCT199210504303
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


Well, Mr. CAPS-LOCK, where are you today?  Here it is, the day after your
precious Eagles lost to KC, and I don't see any of your obnoxious postings.
Well, I guess you can always start woofing that the Eagles will go 16-0 
*next* year.  :^)

Your predictions for this week were a little off, weren't they?

Seriously, though, if there were not so many people on the net woofing
*before* games, there would not be so many people eating crow *after* games.

However, if you wish to consistently annoy the rest of us in net.land with
your juvenile antics, we will be more than happy to pry your foot out of
your mouth for you the day after the game.  :-)

________________________________________________________________________________

                                     Tracy      
                              Texas A&M University
				       
John Madden: "There's a good sign.  Troy Aikman putting his pants back on."
Pat Summerall: "That's ALWAYS a good sign."    (RFK Stadium, Nov. 24, 1991)
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From: rorry@cs.umd.edu (Ningda Rorry Li)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Houston Oilers Wk6
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:03:43 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

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TEAM
Houston Oilers (4-1)

NEXT OPPONENT
Denver 

GAME SUMMARY

           Houston    Cincinnati*
Pts        38         24
Rushing    34-202     16-67
Pass Att   21-32-2    20-37-2
Pass Yds   216        205
Fum Lost   1          0
Poss       36:52      23:08

PASSING
Moon       21-32-2 216 5P
Carlson    0-0-0 0

RUSHING
White      25-149
G.Brown    4-34
Moon       2-20
Carlson    3-(-1)


RECEIVING
Jeffires   9-82 3T
Givins     5-45 2T
Harris     3-39
Duncan     2-40
Coleman    1-6
White      1-4

KICKING
Del Greco  F (39) 5X

SACKS
Childress  1
L.Williams 1

INTERCEPTIONS
S.Jones    1
Robertson  1

INJURIES
Munchak ?

GAME SUMMARY
The offense was balanced with almost as much yards rushing (202) as passing
(216). Moon had 5 TD passes. White had 149 yards rushing.

NEWS ITEMS
- Moon's second 5-TD pass game, last one was in a 48-17 victory over the 
  Bengals in 1990.
- Moon moved past George Blanda for the team career record of 169 TD throws.
- White's 149 rushing yards is the Oilers' highest since Earl Campbell's
  186 vs. Seattle in 1981.

OTHER NOTES 
*= Home Team
P= Touchdown Pass Thrown
T= Touchdowns Scored
F= Field Goal Scored (number in parens is distance)
X= Extra Point Scored
PASSING: completions,attempts,interceptions, TD passes

This posting follows the proposed format of the NFL TEAM STAT PROJECT.
Contact Jason Parker - jason@cray.com to sign-up and enter your
favorite team.
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From: rsmith@seq.uncwil.edu (Ross Smith)
Subject: Re: AFC-Daydreams
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:20:42 GMT

cl129424@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:

>> Actually, Miami has a very good record against NFC teams. In fact,
>> they have never lost to an NFC team at Joe Robbie Stadium. I think
>> their record is now 8-0. 
>> 
>> I can still remember the win over Buddy Ryan's Eagles two years
>> ago. Another 4th quarter comeback by Marino.

>       The Dolphins scored the first 10 points, then the Eagles scored
>20. In the fourth quarter the Dolphins scored another 10 (the last three
>on a field goal) under the leadership of Marino. In over time both teams
>get the ball twice with Miami winning on a field goal. Damn what a game!
>                         -doug THE dolfan-

As an Eagles fan I have to interject...

    Please remember that the game tying field goal was set up by a
short punt (< 30 yards) with less than a minute left. Miami got the 
game tying field goal with 3 seconds left on the clock.

    Then, in overtime our punter dropped the ball and fell on it and
was touched down. Miami did 3 plunges into the pile and kicked a 39
yarder to win it.

     It still kills me that the Eagles were winning by 10 with 6 minutes
left in the game and managed to lose it. We had an awsome rushing attack
that day (47-257), with three different rushers over 70 yards each (Sanders
18-87, Sherman 11-72 and Cunningham 12-94) but could not run when it counted
late in the fourth to eat up the remaining clock...
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From: sybesma@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Eric Sybesma)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Vikings 31 Lions 14
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:58:18 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor

In article <1992Oct16.163127.13822@unislc.uucp> jag@unislc.uucp (John Ganske) writes:

>I guess the more we saw of Dennis Green and his staff in training camp and
>the preseason, the more we kinda thought maybe the team wouldn't be so bad,
>but there was no way most of use oft-burned fans were going to admit it.
>There's still a lot of season left, but it feels good to have the Vikes in
>the position that they are right now in the division.
>
>John Ganske
>
I agree.  Despite an AWESOME pre-season, the Vikings have at this point
proven only that they are an above-average team that beat up on 5 average
or below average teams and got beat by a slightly below-average team.
I believe they will join the "Excellent" category only if they can win
at least 4 of their next five.  However, they will establish themselves
as a very good team if they beat the Bears and Washington in reverse
order in the next 2 weeks.

	
-- 
Eric Sybesma
University of Michigan
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sybesma@maize.engin.umich.edu
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From: tolsen@encore.com (Ted Olsen)
Subject: Free Agents after this season (Was To all Dolphin fans)
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:15:23 GMT

   -doug THE dolfan- writes:
>       One more thing: we need a pass rush to win the big one.

I agree.  This past Sunday the Dolphins only put good pressure on when
they rushed 5.

Assuming the court ruling concerning unrestricted
free agency holds up, who will be available to solve this problem? 
Reggie White???  :-)

The Dolphins stand to lose Oliver, Humphrey, Clayton, and Edmunds.
I'm sure there are others?

How about around the league?  Who will the free agents be at the end
of this season?

Ted

>                      -doug THE dolfan-