From: mhmann@nyx.cs.du.edu (Me Mann)
Subject: Re: RE : SINGAPORE LAWSE (sic)
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In article <kepF4hm00YV9E9LZ0y@andrew.cmu.edu> hw0r+@andrew.cmu.edu (Heng Wong) writes:
>>Are you sure he only stated a fact? This God-Fried fellow is wanting
>attention.
>>He is not only notorious here but in s.c.thai.  He seems to be at odd
>>with people in Thailand and Singapore! So the best is ignore him.
>
>Were you born this literal, or did you have to have surgery? OK, mavbe

Talk of level-headed discussion, you certainly don't have intention
to start one do you? Your brand of writing no better than
his!.

>to you this wasn't a fact, but that's just to you. I really don't think

Oh well he started more than a fact. He also included insults and
sacarsm and insinuations.  If he had only done that your fellow
countrymen would not have gotten so heated up. Let me give you an
example of his writing.

***** Start of Qoute ***
From: godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY)
Subject: Re: SINGAPORE LAWSE
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 14:24:00 GMT


In article <1992Oct3.014909.1793@nuscc.nus.sg>, eng20009@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN GIM WEE)    writes...
>Hello there, let me make this very clear. The fine for not flushing
>public toilets in Singapore is S$150. One hundred and fifty dollars, not
>$1500 or $1000 or any other amount!
> 
>--
>---------------------------------------------------------
>Tan Gim Wee
>EE Dept, NUS
>internet: eng20009@nusunix1.nus.sg
>bitnet: eng20009@nusvm.bitnet
>"Born to inspire, Destined to perform."

I understood that was the maximum fine, and that the actual figure depended
on the contents of the toilet bowl, after evaluation and analysis by the
Police Toilet Inspectorate.  Can you plead not gulity if the flushing
mechanism is defective, or micturating circumstances (that is intended
to be a joke)?

Is it true that there is a law against wearing dirty underwear in your
advanced country too?  Or for allowing your dick to hang on the wrong
side of your zipper?

Laurence

***** End of Qoute ******


>many people use news groups to get attention, if they do, that's kind of
>sad. And what's with this mutilation of his name, if you can't make a
>proper argument, then resorting to insults is pitiful.

It is extremely pitiful too of you to start your post in his
foot step-- sick and cheap insinuation. 


>Dignity, anyone? So what you're saying is that as long as everyone is
>well-fed and peaceful, nothing else matters. I don't think so. Human
>rights are an integral part of every society, the right to vote, the
>right to speak, the right to believe in your own religion, the right to
>wear whatever clothes you want. Sure, if things break down and the
>status quo changes, martial law can come into effect, it did pretty well
>for us in 1960, but in society at the present, we can express ourselves
>and that is our right.

I did not say that. Don't put words into other's mouth. Futhermore
what you have listed as "human rights" are all present in the
Singapore Society.  Read what your own Senior minister have to say
about this.  Your notion of human rights is very much that of the 
Westerners concept of human rights.  Your Senior Minister prefer
the term "acceptable human behavior".  


>
>>Flame war is inherently name calling, isn't it? SO it is not really good
>>other than allowing  you to practice insulting people. On the otherhand
>>level-headed discussion is good and beneficial. 
>
>I don't see any level-headed discussion at this time.

I don't see you doing it either right from the beginning and
till your last sentence. Coming to think of it Laurence
Godfrey maybe right in saying that some of you can't take
criticisms 8).   

I am out of here for a good swim.

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