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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:45:03 EST
From:         Tim Johnson <ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Sundry items

>On another subject: I hate to bring up the DREAD M-PERSON but a friend of mine
>works in the library in Rare Books/Special Collections, and she told me about
>the hilarious almost medieval ritual that transpired when the Dread M-Person's
>latest book arrived.  While most volumes languish for days, weeks, months,
>years, or centuries in the Pre-Cat area, this one was hand-carried by an honor
>guard through ACquisitions, Cataloging, etc. etc. STRAIGHT up to Rare Books.
>And then a long line of library employees showed up, waiting to view it.
>Damn, why doesn't this happen with Wittgenstein or Tolstoy or Emily Dickinson
>or Proust or Cervantes or Flaubert?

  Maybe because Wittgenstein and Tolstoy and Dickinson and Proust and
Cervantes and Flaubert are all dead - they haven't written anything
new in a long time.

  You left Dostoevsky off the list.  Is that because he does get an honor
guard?  Or could that have been a terrible oversight on your part?  Or
were you comparing Madonna favorably with the authors you listed?

                                -Tim
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 12:01:32 EST
From:         RANDY_GOLDBERG <goldberg@MAILER.NYMC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Beach Boys-urgent question!

 Sufin' Safari is the Beach Boys.  Jumpin' Jack Flash is the Rolling
 Stones.

 Cheers,
  Randy
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:29:00 -0500
From:         The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny
              <ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: PRINCE & NPG

From: 5_DCOREY@FAIR1.FAIRFIELD.EDU
Subject: PRINCE & NPG
>Hello - I'm a new subscriber, so bear with me. I just wanted to know why
>there aren't any messages concerning Prince's fantastic new album. If you
>don't have it already, go out and buy it. It's a great album. Maybe after
>listening to it you'll become a collector like me & collect all of his albums
>since 1978. If anyone would like to send a message directly to me it's
OOH...Now you've done it.....

THE TOP TEN REASONS ALLMUSIC IS NOT DISCUSSING PRINCE'S NEW ALBUM:
10. Sonny Sharrock doesn't appear on it
9. Vinnie doesn't appear on..oh wait a minute...maybe he does?
8. We Allmusic'ers just ain't hip
7. Libby Doe has got a bigger tongue
6. Maybe if he got a last name, we might discuss him
5. Because we all thought NPG stood for Nutritous Pork Grinds
4. My first dog's name was Prince, and I get all teary eyed at the mention of
   his name.
3. Wait a minute! Prince! Doesn't he make tennis balls?
2. He's still alive????

...and the number one reason why allmusic isn't discussing Prince's new album:

1. Prince sucks farts from dead wet ducks.

8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
-Adam
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:20:30 CST
From:         Leonard Watkins <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Louie Louie
              17 Nov 1992 20:01:10 GMT from <s0454850@LET.RUG.NL>

On Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:01:10 GMT J.P. Prenger said:
>
>What do  you mean, does anybody have the right to 'allow' anything an artist
>does? Remember the first amendment of your constitution, pal!

Yes they do that's why child pornorgraphy is illegal, some states have tried
to ban the Confederate Flag, Ole Miss (Rebels) can't fly a confederate flag
over a certain size......etc the list goes on. I guess you think Maplethorpe
was an artist. My point was how can the artist get away with but not the DJ
I was not saying that the artist shouldn't get away with it. If someone wants
to use racial slang in tv or radio they should be able to if they want to talk
about killing a cop they should be able to....but so should the DJ. Look at
what happen to Jimmy The Greek, and Andy Rooney where was there 1st amendment
.....................L.W.
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:08:53 MST
From:         Thumper <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      RE: Musical wish list / Seattle Bands

Gary said:
>Also, I've asked for the _Songs Of Freedom_ Bob Marley box set. 75 songs. Some
>previously unreleased stuff, some alternate mixes...

I'd like this too, but I have to smuggle reggae music into the house -- the
hockey player despises it...  :(

>p.s. Carol, when you sit on Santa's lap, tell him the first thing that pops up.

To which he'll respond, "The name's Nick, my dear... not Dick..."

OMC:  Attended a noon-hour "stress management" concert here at the university
-- an acapella-type quartet from Toronto called Moxy Fruvous.  I've also seen
these guys at the Winnipeg Folk Festival and they were terrific once again.
Great vocal harmonies, incredible energy and wickedly humorous.  My favorite
tunes were the rap version of Dr. Seuss's "Green Eggs and Ham" and a sickified
version of Lou Reed's "Walk On The Wild Side" fused with the chorus of Abba's
_Dancing Queen_... I nearly peed...  :)

Gee... and there's a mandolin quartet coming in the new year... talk about your
virtual cultural hotbed, I tell ya...   ;*)

- Thumper
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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1992 16:32:00 EDT
From:         5_DCOREY@FAIR1.FAIRFIELD.EDU
Subject:      Re: PEARL JAM/JEREMY

Hi Jeremy,
        Thanks for the complement. After years of mispronunciation, I'll
take what I can get! I'm not a big Pearl Jam fan, but they're ok. You know
I'm a big Prince fan........until next time.....
                                                Darice <-+--O
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 09:31:57 CST
From:         Jeff Schoby <S113236@UMRVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: PRINCE & NPG

On Fri, 20 Nov 1992 07:13:45 CST Leonard Watkins said:
>On Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:41:53 CST Jeff Schoby said:
>>Adam, If you don't like Prince that is fine, but you do not have to insult the
>>However, he is probably one of the most talented musicians there has ever
>been.
>If you like Prince, that's great, but when you make a statement like the above
>your credibility is down the drain...thats the stupidest thing i've read on
>this group...........................L.W.

Len, I believe someone once said that opinions were welcome on this list?
I was just voicing mine....you don't have to insult me, Adam's list wasn't
even funny.  Don't get me wrong I like silly stuff, I'm a BIG Monty Python fan
but Adam's list wasn't even funny....Don't crucify people for their opinions.

BTW- To use your limited vocabulary: I think your statement was even more
stupid then mine 8-b

Take a chill pill, people!

Relax!!!!

Jeff
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:48:32 MST
From:         Thumper <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      the first rule of allmusic

Do your list housekeeping (ie. nomail, signoff) before you let an auto reply
program handle your mail while your gone.

*the* Bob (Mr. Turnbull) has broken this rule and I have dispatched Libby
to issue a thorough net spanking.

Please, I repeat, please do not sent 30 meg chain letters to his account in
retaliation as *I* would never encourage such heinous acts...

- Carol, second in command to the netiquette monitor (he's sleeping)...
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:36:03 PST
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From:         Mike <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Paul McCartney

I had said earlier:
>>From:         Mike Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
>>McCartney's _Ram_ sounds like a lot of it
>>could have been on the _White Album_, circa 1968.

And John replied:
>At least some of _Ram_ had been written earlier.  I have a bootleg album
>from the _Let It Be_ sessions (_Kum Back_) that has Paul showing "Teddy
>Boy" to the band for the first time.  As frequently happens with first
>run-throughs, the song gets repeated several times as the musicians try
>to work out their parts.  Apparently John got bored with the tune as
>you can hear him doing square dance calls in the background. 8-)

>John McIntyre
>Physics - Astronomy Dept
>Michigan State University

I have that recording also (_Get Back_ and _The Black Album_).
The song "Teddy Boy" is not one of Paul's stronger songs, IMHO.
But "Teddy Boy" appears on _McCartney_, not _Ram_, as you had said.
I don't think Paul had any of the songs from _Ram_ practiced
by the Beatles during the hell sessions of _Let It Be_.

BTW, does anyone out there have a recording of "Anything", or
"Pink Litmus Paper Shirt" by the Beatles, circa 1966-67?
I'm looking for any songs that they didn't put out during that time.

Also, does anyone have a list of the songs that The Beatles
wrote that they gave to other artists to sing?
Preshadit.

Mike.





    Paul McCartney
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:05:06 CST
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      New CD's

Johnny Winter has a new Cd out, called "where's your brother at"  and
Edgar plays Sax, Keys, and does some vocaling on 'please come home for
christmas' i just got i've yet to listen to it. I went for the new Etta
James since my regular store had sold out, hey so had this one, must be
good or good revues....L.W.

P.S. Black Oak Arkansas has a greatest hits album..both songs are on it :-)
that's a trip
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:36:02 EST
From:         RTURNBUL@TOROVM1.VNET.IBM.COM
Subject:      Birthday

I'll take a stab at the tiny inquisitor's age and say 40. Nice round number...
Wouldn't be getting just a little concerned about middle-age dread, eh? (and
"losing the war in the waistland spread...").

OMC: Gold star for naming the tune I just quoted from...

Bob Tee

P.S. Have you ever noticed that people who find the first snow pretty and who
are looking forward to winter NEVER HAVE TO DRIVE IN IT?!?!?!?!
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:31:08 -0500
From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: A Capella and teleology

>On Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:38:04 -0500 <mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU> said:
>Marsha sez:
>
>>The Wilhousky is great - I did it with a 300 piece orchestra and a
>>400-voice choir...talk about musical orgasm!!!!
>
>You did what? With how many?  Better watch it, Libby Doe is not going to
>like it!  She's going to be jealous and drooling to the max...
>
>>
>>I actually did get to have my dream - I sang on Beethoven's 9th two years
>
>Undoubtedly a wet dream; shades of Dante and Beatrice.
>
>>ago with a 200-person orchestra, 4 fabulous soloists and 450 voices in the
>>choir! I was high on the adrenalin for days!!!
>
>Again these numbers are nothing if not staggering; they boggle the mind.
>
>>
>>Marsha, the tired and depressed....
>
>Tired I can understand, but depressed??  This is enough to last several
>lifetimes.  Libby, eat your heart out!  You got some serious competiton here.
>
>Renato


Renato dear, If this was my sex life I was talking about, do you really
think I'd have the time or energy to continue my morbid posts?

Marsha
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:42:34 -0500
From:         The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny
              <ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>
Subject:      Genesis' New Edition

From: "OUT,              OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT..."
 <OLIVOTTO%ITNCISCA.BITNET@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>
Subject: RE: Genesis Live: Good disc/Bad disc
>        The only thing I'm afraid, regardless of the titles, is that they
>made a monster live album in 1977 with "Seconds Out", but the next "Three
>Sides Live" was rather dull in comparison. Will they be able to revamp the
>old energy?

Hopefully the performances they recorded were as good as when I saw them back
in May at Foxboro Stadium. I think the long break between tours and albums
restored alot of the old spirit. I never actually bought _TSL_, so I can't
really compare it to that one, but I'd say the performance that I saw was close
to _Seconds Out_.

The only thing I fear is that on the night I saw them the 70's tunes were part
of a 15-20 minute medley. I'm hoping that later in the tour they stretched it
out a bit. There was a special on TV last weekend which showed parts of the
tour. At one point they played "Lamb" (the song) in its entirety. On the night
I saw them it was blended into the medley of the older songs. So it appears
that they might have axed the medley (or stretched it out) later in the tour
and played the full songs.

From: Ilia <CC29%IONA.BITNET@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>
Subject: Genesis Live: Good disc/Bad disc
>Well, at least four of those are on _Seconds Out_. Do you know if
>they are going to put different versions?

See above.

From: Jeff Schoby <S113236%UMRVMA.BITNET@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>
Subject: Dragnet Soundtrack
>P.S. Does anyone know when the guys are gonna release another NEW EDITION
>album?....or when Johnny Gill, Ralph T., BBD, are gonna release new albums?

I have a hard time deciding which band makes me more ashamed to admit that I'm
a musician from Massachusetts, the New Edition and their spawn or New Kids
on the Block.

MAURICE STARR MUST DIE!

-Adam
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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1992 14:01:00 EDT
From:         5_DCOREY@FAIR1.FAIRFIELD.EDU
Subject:      Re: PRINCE & NPG

JEREMY, JEREMY........ Didn't someone release a song about you recently?
Ha, ha. Remember, it's only a joke!!!!!
                                        Darice - go ahead make fun of my name
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 10:26:37 PST
From:         Mike <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Speak softly and carry a big Stick[tm]
              17 Nov 1992 09:24:15 -0500 from <HAMELIN@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU>

Over here in San Jose, California,
you can get a Chapman Stick for $1100.
You may even get it cheaper...
I saw one used here for $800--good condition.
You better shop around.

Mike Masuda
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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1992 15:51:54 MST
From:         Thumper <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      phish heads, phish heads, rolly polly phish heads...

Adam said:

>I picked up Phish's _Junta_ yesterday. This was their first album which Elektra
>has just rereleased. The back of the box showed two discs worth of titles, so I

Oh wow... this I want!

I just got off the phone with Santa and he says that if I locate his g-spot,
I'll get a CD player for x-mas.  Libby wants a combination walkman/chastity
belt....

So what's on everyone else's musical wish lists?

Deck the balls,
Thumper
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 10:02:17 EST
From:         Michelle May <MAMAY@WAYNEST1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Birthday contest

Hi Renato!!!

 I knew there was a reason we "clicked" --I'm a Scorpio, too!!  O.K., I'll
 guess 38 years old.

Hope I'm close,
Michelle
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:40:33 CST
From:         Paul Heroy <HEROY@LSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: interesting Pete Townshend quote....

On Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:03:00 CST you said:
>
>I'm stuggling with the question of whether to renew my subscription of
>Rolling Stone. I've been with them for 6 years now, mostly cuz I was buying
>every 5th issue anyway, and with a 3 year subscription, the price per issue
>was less expensive, only about $.45 each compaired to a cover price of
>$2.50. I'd rather subscribe to a jazz mag, but Downbeat and Jazziz often
>leave me cold. I mean, hell, this month Downbeat did a several page article
>on our beloved Kenny G and how he's paved the way for so many, like Dave Koz
>and others. They even listed all his equipment. I mean, I know Downbeat has
>to pay the bills, but geez, Sun Ra hasn't been on their cover in over a
>decade. I wish they'd do a huge article on him now, before he "returns to
>the great Saturn in the sky." Are there any other jazz mags out there that
>I should take a look at?

(I'm replying late b/c I had to go nomail on ALLMUSIC and just get the digest.)
Yeah, that DB article was a wet noodle, alright. I couldn't believe the way
most of the article basically apologized for itself, and quoted the G man
trying to defend himself. How boring. Anyway, have you ever seen JazzTimes?
I've picked up a couple of issues and it's not bad. There are a couple of
other small, quarterly or bimonthly mags I've seen in a bookstore here. (It's
a crummy bookstore, but for some reason carries a lot of music mags, including
a couple of blues rags, a reggae mag, and about 6 jazz mags. So who am I to
complain? :-) I just called them to check the names - Jazz Journal, Jazz
Report, and Jazz Monthly. I don't know much about them, although at least one
is a European import, I think.

Paul 'nomail' Heroy
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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1992 00:20:54 -0500
From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: M-PERSON, A Cappella, Purple One, DEBBIE!

Bob sends me my first real review! Hint hint - don't forget, y'all - you
must send a review, or you won't get "daughter of a cappella" (or whatever
I call it...) when it comes out....


>Marsha!!!  Just finished listening to the tapes.  Here's a pre-review:
>
>        Best side: Side 1, tape 2: Variety, variety, variety,
>           plus, it has the best song (see below)
Interesting. I like them all, but i have personal associations with all of
it, so it's tough for me to decide. I may have to agree though.

>        Worst side: Side 2, tape 1 (there's a long run of doo-wop
>           or similar diatonic stuff here that might have been
>           broken up a little?)
Something to keep in mind...All I had when I made that tape were all the
Nylons albums, and a bit of college a cappella stuff. I made the tape for a
friend of mine for her birthday and I've made a lot of copies since then,
since everyone likes it so much. I acquired some more stuff, and then made
tape 2. The more I accumulate, the better the compilations will get...This
isn't an apology - there's still some great stuff on 1...but I tend to
agree that it's the weaker tape.
>        Best Song: 12.5 Days of Xmas -- no contest
Lyric wise - I agree. My faves are House of blue lights and sittin' in
limbo.
>        Worst Song: The one that comes directly before 12.5 days.
I actually like it - "and so it goes" was my least favorite. The big
problem is that there are so few all-female groups, that when you're trying
to create a balnced "intro to a cappella" tape, you end up putting on some
lesser stuff in order to diversify...sounds like affirmative action...The
song is "Heaven" and there's a much better version of it on the _Modern A
Cappella_ CD I keep reccommending by Longhouse.
       Best Performance: The Bobs on (drat -- brain fart) the
>           one with the Bungalow in the jungalow.
That would be "banana love". Great tune!
>        Worst Performance: And So It Goes.  Great intro, wonderful
>           song, but TOO FAST!
>
You forgot to include lousy arrangement. That's the women's group at my
undergrad college, and they've gone downhill recently...
>So, I got one thing to say: more!  Give me more!  ALLMUSICers, this is
>a must-get along with Sonia's blues anthology.  Would you please
>refresh my memory -- is Pennsylvania 6-5000 from U of PA?  Does anyone
>know how to get in touch with their director?  I gotta get sheet music
>for that song!
Yes, they are U Penn. I doubt they'll give you the music, even if I knew
how to get in touch with them. College groups use that kind of thing for
years and guard it with theri lives!

If you want more, I suggest you write to some of the groups/publications in
the literature I sent you. Especially CASA, which will get you discounts at
some of the others. I'm buying like crazy, so I'm sure that I'll put out a
cappella 3 soon....I'm glad you like it! One more convert, Randy!

Marsha
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 10:45:28 EST
From:         "Michael H. Bloom" <MHB@MITVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Urban Ambience at Mobius, 21 November

Mobius is a gallery space and a performance art troupe, physically located at
354 Congress Street in Boston. On Saturday night they're having their annual
fundraising party, an event they call something like "ArtBeat." There will be
continuous music and related performances from 8PM until midnight or later;
Urban Ambience is scheduled to play from about 10:15 until about 11:00, but
much of the other stuff sounds interesting too: improvising trombonist Tom
Plsek, and some sort of mutant world-beat dance band... come one, come all!
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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1992 17:30:00 EDT
From:         5_DCOREY@FAIR1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: NEVER HEARD OF SHAI

Hi Marsha!
Well, the song came out about two weeks ago. The group was also on Arsenio
at that time. Now I keep seeing the video on MTV. Shai is a group of 4 guys
who sing a cappella, or at least the single they released is a cappella. It's
pretty good. I'm starting to like a cappella more these days. I haven't heard
it on the radio though, because I hardly ever listen to the radio except for
the 10 minutes in the morning when I rush to commute to school. Most of the
music I listen to is on tape or cd. You're right, the radio starts to get
depressing after you've heard the same song about......100 times in a day!
Email me if you'd like to hear more........Take care!
                                                        Darice
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