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From: DWING@UH01.Colorado.EDU (Dan Wing)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: SYSDUMP.DMP File Question...
Date: 7 Jan 93 18:11:39 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Scott R. Daniels, SRD@RCKHRST1.BITNET, writes:

>  Is there a way to have the system look on a different disk for the 
>SYSDUMP.DMP file ?  

No.  The crash-dump file must be on the system disk.  You can, however, have 
the system write its crash-dump to the pagefile, but I believe that pagefile 
must be on the system disk to be used as a crash-dump area.  This is done 
by setting SAVEDUMP to 1.

>And is it also true that enough disk space should be allocated so that
>ALL memmory can be dumped into it ?  

If DUMPSTYLE is 0, you need a dumpfile big enough for all of memory.  If
DUMPSTYLE is 1, use the values that AUTOGEN gives you.

AUTOGEN will tell you the appropriate size depending on your setting of 
DUMPSTYLE (0=dump all memory, 1=selective dump).  I'd add about 100 blocks 
to AUTOGEN's recommendation to ensure it was big enough (AUTOGEN under-
calculated the size of a selective dump in some versions of VMS).

>We just doubled our memory to 128MB, and we
>don't really have the room to put a 262,144 block SYSDUMP file on the system
>disk.  Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.  

Use DUMPSTYLE=1, or have your crash-dump file go into your page file.

-Dan Wing, dwing@uh01.colorado.edu or wing_d@ucolmcc.bitnet (DGW11)
 Systems Administrator, University Hospital, Denver
From: tihor@acf3.NYU.EDU (Stephen Tihor)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: HELP!!! Security problem for gurus. [Directories]
Date: 9 Jan 93 23:33:00 GMT
Organization: New York University

Just a note for the purists SECURITY is often misapplied as meaning only
PRIVACY but in its own technical domain Security means a triad of basic interests and one additional concern at least:

Security = Privacy + Integrity + Availablility
		+ Accountability

Now different real world enviornments may tip the balance among these items
so we as professional must make tradeoffs among them and the usual cost and 
performance parameters [although some argue that performance is part of 
availability.]

Of course most people are most used to the Privacy aspect of Security since its
the one that gets the highest weight with most National Security information and
thrillers.  But recognizing ALL the elements of security is important and 
makes out jobs are professionals easier by disassociating the good stuff from
the spys, nukes, and FBI aura that makes many people cringe at the thought
of "security" or believe its a bad (unitary) idea rather than a multidimensional
space to be located within. 
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From: brennan@tango.cchs.su.oz.au (Luke Brennan)
Subject: Re: SYSDUMP.DMP File Question...
Organization: Cumberland College of Health Sciences
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:45:12 GMT

In article <10JAN199322171089@spades.aces.com>, gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546) writes:
> In article <199301101043.AA29439@sunb.ocs.mq.edu.au>, EC_TIAN@VAXA.OCS.MQ.EDU.AU writes...

	[...]

> 	If you're searching for people in the USA and other counties
> 	(the USA is not a county by the way, it's a major portion of
> 	one continent and some of others as it encompasses 50 states
> 	and several territories) you need to try more mundane means,
> 	such as telephone books.

	Ehud,
		are you telling me that all those little squares on that
		bit of the map to the right AREN'T part of Queensland???

		hell.. just when I thought I had the world figured.. :-}
		ahh.. *now* I understand why the timezones are so far
		behind for that part of OZ.. er.. USA.. :-)

	Okay.. VMS question.. my upgrade to 5.5-2 bombed until I
	increased CTLPAGES and PIOPAGES *up* from the DEFAULT..

	Can you (or some other knowledgable type) explain how/why
	the upgrade needs larger numbers, yet a running 5.4-3
	system seemed perfectly happy??

	hmm.. time to go laze in the sun :-) :-) :-)

	Luke.
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From: RICH@VAX5.CSD.COM (The Ghost in the Machine)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: SHRIDMISMAT error message on NOTES
Date: 7 Jan 93 00:49:35 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

In a posting on SHRIDMISMAT "Prof. David Miller" <dmiller@VAX1.BEMIDJI.MSUS.EDU>
says;
>When attemping to run NOTES on DECwindows (XUI, not MOTIF) on a PC on
>Pathworks, I get the following message ...

>SYSTEM-SHRIDMISMAT Ident mismatch with sharable image

>The question is, which sharable image? How do I find out?

>VMS 5.5-2
>Pathworks 4.1-1c (whatever the latest is)
>NOTES (current version)

VAXnotes V2.2 (the current version) is designed to be run with the Motif 
interface only and will generate the message:

%SYSTEM-F-SHRIDMISMAT, ident mismatch with shareable image

when run with the XUI interface.  You should either install DECwindows/MOTIF 
or remove VAXnotes V2.2 and reinstall VAXNotes V2.1
From: leichter@lrw.com (Jerry Leichter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: Where is the putenv()???
Date: 12 Jan 93 12:48:41 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


	Hi, I am porting a make to VMS.  and it needs putenv(). while the
	getenv() is in the stdlib.h but I can find nowhere the putenv().  can
	someone help me on this.

There isn't any.  The Unix "environment" doesn't really exist on VMS; getenv()
creates a similar effect by examining DCL symbols and logicals, but their
semantics is actually rather different from that of environment values.

Note that putenv() isn't even a very standardized Unix function.  POSIX, for
example, doesn't support it.

You're going to have to look at the code that uses putenv() and determine what
it does, then figure out how to get the equivalent effect on VMS.

							-- Jerry
From: simons/G=Colin/I=CB/S=Sewell/O=H.A.Simons.Ltd/OU=CORP@mhs.attmail.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: PASSWORDS & SCHEMES
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:06:25 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Dan Wing writes:
!You (c sewell) wrote:
!
!>|  $ SET PASS
!>|  Old password:
!>|  New password: DWINGDWING
!>|  %SYSTEM-F-PWDWEAK, password is too easy to guess; please choose another
!>|  string
!>|
!>
!>    i think this is caused by your site specific VMS$PASSWORD_POLICY.
!>    as far as i know VMS doesn't prevent you from using your username
!>    as a password unless you specifically disallow it in VMS$PASSWORD_POLICY.
!
!I don't have a password policy on this system.  This is allowed on your
!system?  (I'm running VMS V5.5-1).
!
!-Dan Wing, dwing@uh01.colorado.edu or wing_d@ucolmcc.bitnet (DGW11)
! Systems Administrator, University Hospital, Denver

    well, that's bizarre. yes, i just tried it on a VMS V5.5-2 system.
    since we have a password policy active, i SYSGENed LOAD_PWD_POLICY 0
    and tried setting my password to my username. it worked! are
    you posolutely sure you don't have a password policy running?

    then again, maybe you have added your username and usernameusername
    to the system password dictionary. but that would give a different
    error message?! hmm .. a mystery.

    colin sewell
    h.a.simons ltd.
    vancouver, bc
    "simons/g=colin/s=sewell"@mhs.attmail.com
From: kellym@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Kelly Mc Connell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Starting remote process over Decnet?
Date: 5 Jan 93 21:55:32 GMT
Reply-To: kellym@tekgen.bv.tek.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tektronix Inc.  VMS Systems Support

In article <lkjpfvINN6r6@news.bbn.com> brosen@BBN.COM (Bruce L. Rosen) writes:
>Is there some system service that supports starting a process on a different,
>but DECnet connected, VMS machine?  It would be something like a LIB$SPAWN,
>but would take hostname, userid, and password, as necessary arguments.
>
>What I'm looking for is a DECnet equivalent of the TCP/IP "rexec" system call.
>
>Is there such a thing?

Yes, DECnet Transparent Task to Task communication.  Briefly, create a command
procedure on the remote node that has the commands that you want to execute.
Then from the local node:

$ TYPE NODE"USER PASSWORD"::"TASK=comfilename"

The comfilename is the filename of the command procedure you created in step
one (minus the .com extension).  If you have proxies set up you can omit the
"USER PASSWORD" portion above.

This is documented in the Guide to DECnet-VAX Networking page 2-14.

-- 

            I may rise, but I refuse to shine before sunset
From: gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: TT_AccPorNam field remains null on a SHOW USERS output ?
Date: 4 Jan 93 17:21:00 GMT
Reply-To: gavron@ACES.COM
Organization: ACES Consulting Inc.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <1993Jan4.044118.1@alien.gici.com>, laut@alien.gici.com 
(Bill Laut) writes...
#In article <28DEC199204082079@spades.aces.com>, Ehud writes:
#>In article <1992Dec27.233720.1@woods.ulowell.edu>, sabotkap@woods.ulowell.edu writes...
#>
#> [ misc. discussion deleted ]
#>
#>#When logged in from a non-hardwired terminal, when during login is the 
#>#TT_AccPorNam information obtained ?
#>
#>Before SYLOGIN gets control is enough that you need to know.
#>
# 
#In other words, Ehud doesn't know.

No, Bill Laut, you bible-thumping shit-for-brains, open-your-mouth-before-
your-brain-has-warmed-up turn-the-other-cheek toadface.

#In any case, since I'm experienced in these matters, 

You're experienced in opening your mouth and nothing else.  The original
question dealt with whether anything in SYLOGIN affected TT_ACCPORNAM.
My answer was no.  Your wasted bandwidth may gratify your ego, but you
can do that by reading your name on the blackboard a hundred times too.

[ THREE WHOLE FUCKING PAGES OF UTTERLY USELESS NAMBY PAMBY SDA WALKTHROUGHS
  THAT DON'T ANSWER THE QUESTION deleted]


[ NOW he repeats the question because he didn't answer it the first time: ]

#>#When logged in from a non-hardwired terminal, when during login is the 
#>#TT_AccPorNam information obtained ?
# 
#That is left entirely up to the port driver, or port driver/ACP 
#combination.

In other words, you don't know.  BZZZT, guess again big boy.  It's done
before LOGINOUT takes control and before SYLOGIN runs.  

# Typically, it happens when the network connection is being established.
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

A meaningless phrase. 


#>#It seems a SET TERMINAL/INQUIRE in our SYLOGIN.COM is responsible for 
#>#getting this field,
#>
#>Nope.  If the information is available, it is there long before
#>SYLOGIN.
#>
#>#but at other times, an otherwise normal login will not retreive this 
#>#information.
#>
#>Coincidence.
#>
# 
#Incorrect.  "Coincidence" implies that VMS collectively is somehow waffling


No, Bill Laut's lack of understanding doesn't mean VMS is waffling.  It
means that the ORIGINAL POSTER's assertions were based on coincidence.

[Another FOUR pages of USELESS bullshit deleted]

Bill Also deleted where I asked the guy to give us an example of how
he logs in and there is no access port name set.  Shame on you Bill.

#>#Pete Sabotka, Meteorology Dept.           sabotkap@woods.ulowell.edu
#>#University of Massachusetts - Lowell      "I lost a buttonhole..." S. Wright

#--
#Bill Laut			Internet:  laut@jerkoff.com


Ehud

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From: gezelter@rlgsc.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Starting remote process over Decnet?
Date: 6 Jan 93 00:56:04 EST
Distribution: usa
Organization: Robert Gezelter Software Consultant, Flushing, NY

In article <lkjpfvINN6r6@news.bbn.com>, brosen@BBN.COM (Bruce L. Rosen) writes:
> Is there some system service that supports starting a process on a different,
> but DECnet connected, VMS machine?  It would be something like a LIB$SPAWN,
> but would take hostname, userid, and password, as necessary arguments.
> 
> What I'm looking for is a DECnet equivalent of the TCP/IP "rexec" system call.
> 
> Is there such a thing?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Bruce Rosen (brosen@bbn.com)
> BBN Software Products
-- 
Bruce,
 
If you open a DECnet connection to the other machine, with a "filename" 
specifying an appropriate command file name, you can start up a process
using the DECnet TASK object.
 
The hour is rather late, so I will simply refer you to the VMS Networking 
Manual for the details at this instant.
 
I hope that the above is useful. If I can be of further assistance, please 
feel free to contact me via Email or phone.
 
- Bob
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From: zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re: Long standing apparent Backup or XQP problem
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:14:26 GMT

In article <9301052330.AA21443@relay1.UU.NET>, gleeve@galaxy.dnet writes:
> When making up masters for the VMS/L&T sig tapes at the recent
> DECUS symposium, I encountered a problem making a Backup
...
>   Doing a BACKUP/LIST of [somewhere]a.bck/save
> 
> revealed errors recovered by XOR groups, and errors of lost blocks
> in files within the saveset, EVEN THOUGH there were NO errors reported
> by Backup during creation of the savesets, nor any hardware errors
> (via show error) reported on the device.
> 

Bingo! I had this problem backing up from a uVaxII to a 4500 via LAVC. The
problem was consistant, repeatable ( modulo the number of error ), and *VERY*
dependant on load. IE, Decterm in and no errors, use decterm to 'set host',
ave of 4-6 errors per RA-81, OPA0 6-10 errors...

My suspicion is a race condition in the SCS/MSCP/QIO code. This has been an
open problem report since Aug 92. 5.5 and 5.5-1 BTW.

I tryed /analing the savesets, but bloody backup hides the error!! Any one have
a hacked version that will dump the blockes in error they can send me?

~Paul
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Help of AUF.......
Date: 9 Jan 1993 23:34:50 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <9A545FBAD0DF000221@EGFRCUVX>, SABRY@SHEBIN.EG (Sabry Kotob El-Ganzory) writes:
=please, I have account has uic:[300,24] and I want change to him name is
=[IBRAHIM] but when go run authorizr
=UAF>modi izmorsi/uic=[ibrahim]
=  NOT accept and then give me this a message
=
=%UAF-E-UICERR, error in UIC specification \[IBRAHIM]\

=Any help???

Yup.  [IBRAHIM] is *NOT* a UIC.  It's an identifier surrounded by square
brackets.  Use the numeric form of the UIC.  Assuming, of course, that what
you're trying to do is change the UIC of the account.
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Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
From: levy@ellc6.epfl.ch
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Help with RPC in the VAX/VMS environment
Keywords: RPC
Date: 5 Jan 93 09:54:04 GMT
Reply-To: levy@ellc6.epfl.ch ()
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

Hi,
Does anybody know if there is a product available to program RPC in the
VAX/VMS world?
We have the distribution of Multinet from TGV but with it you don't have
any help to produce the
interface code (i mean you don't have a rpcgen compiler )

Thanks.

Juan Pablo Levy U.
Ecole Polytechnique de Lausanne 
Switzerland
levy@ellc6.epfl.ch
From: nreadwin@micrognosis.co.uk (Neil Readwin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Using C to read Fortran Files
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:12:01 GMT
Organization: Micrognosis, a division of CSK(UK) Ltd

larry@eco.twg.com (Lawrence B. Henry III) writes:
|> i = open("test", O_RDONLY, "rat=ftn");
|> fp = fdopen(i, "r");
|> 
|> not sure if this solves your problem.. but checking the VAX C documentation
|> it seem to imply it will.. The "rat=ftn" tells the open call that the record
|> attributes of the file contain FORTRAN print control.

This does not solve the problem. Presumably, most additional parameters to
open/creat/fopen etc are used to fill in parts of the RAB/FAB/XAB before
the RMS open call. For a call to open an existing file the record
attributes are an *output* of the open call, they are only an input when
creating a new file (modulo PPF hacks). Maybe you should have tried it
first. Neil.
-- 
 Phone: +44 71 815 5283  E-mail: nreadwin@micrognosis.co.uk
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From: DAHMS@ifk20.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de (Heribert Dahms)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: 5.5 Upgrade blues..
Date: 6 Jan 1993 13:41:53 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG (Dept. of Mechanical Engineering)
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ifk28.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <1993Jan6.014323.10415@ucc.su.OZ.AU> brennan@casino.cchs.su.OZ.AU writes:

: alas, I'm using VI on a unix box - forgive me for any strange typos! :-}
: 
: just upgrading my uVAX III from 5.4-2 and things are screwy..
[...]
: the savesets are on COCO$DKB200:[000000] and my SYS disk is COCO$DKB0
: in case that may have some effect on VMSINSTAL...
[...]
: Luke Brennan  (brennan@casino.cchs.su.oz.au  [while coco is dead..])

I think the savesets for VMS upgrades *must* reside in [000000] on the
system disk.
After the upgrade, you can move them like all other to another disk, so we do.


Bye, Heribert (dahms@ifk20.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: cczanj@vax.nott.ac.uk (Andy Jack)
Subject: Re: Date incorrect after reboot
Reply-To: cczanj@vax.nott.ac.uk (Andy Jack)
Organization: University of Nottingham, UK
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 14:52:05 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.215635.6062@odin.corp.sgi.com>, davo@homer.corp.sgi.com (David Ferrise) writes:
>I apologize if everyone in the world knew this except me...
>
>We rebooted our Vaxcluster last night and discovered that the system came 
>up with the date of 5-JAN-1994 (366 days into the future).

Funny this should come up. Yesterday (Jan 7th) I upgraded our Library VAX
system to VMS 5.5-2. No, I hadn't done a SET TIME (although I'd seen articles
about the date being off) and yes, the date was a year out. I noticed it
and corrected it before bringing up the Library software - can you imagine the
chaos with every book on loan suddenly becoming a year overdue? The fines might
pay for a new VAX (which they need fairly desperately).

Happy New Year, everyone.

	Andy
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From: mikes@Ingres.COM (Mike Schilling)
Subject: Re: re: Re: Passing parameters to detached processes.
Date: 4 Jan 93 17:04:28 GMT

From article <1i8q3mINNdbj@gap.caltech.edu>, by carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick):
> In article <31DEC199209423681@author.gsfc.nasa.gov>, rkoehler@author.gsfc.nasa.gov (Bob Koehler) writes:
>>In article <9212301623.AA19674@uu3.psi.com>, leichter@lrw.com (Jerry Leichter) writes...
>>> 
>>> 
>>>Note that running LOGINOUT to map the CLI in this way is itself undocumented
>>>and unsupported....
> 
> Where?  
Where what?  Which where?  Who's on first?
Are you really asking where it's undocumented?  (Like Woody Allen's joke about
the atheist and the agnostic who couldn't decide which religion not to bring
their kids up in.)  

>And could you please specify things explicitly enough that we'd have
> a chance of knowing what you're talking about?  The post to which I'm replying
> is the sort of thing that those who object to my flames should *REALLY* be
> complaining about.

It was entirely clear in this post what Jerry was warning about, the 
old trick of

	$ RUN/DETACH SYS$SYSTEM:LOGINOUT/INPUT=something.COM

to get a detached process which runs a CLI.  To inject a little content into
this flamefest, can anyone:

1. Verify that this technique is unsupported.
2. Suggest a supported way to acomplish the same thing.
(The only thing that comes to mind is submitting a batch job.  This will
work fine with a suitably configured batch queue, but programs don't
always run on systems the developer manages.)
3. Comment on the probability of such code breaking in the future.

Mike
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From: DICKHAUS@XAVIER.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: HOW TO SUBSCRIBE TO INFO-MULTINET & INFO-PMDF
Date: 9 Jan 93 22:20:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet

The title says it all.
Would anyone who knows how please respond.
Thanks much.
Carl Dickhaus Xavier Univ. DICKHAUS@XAVIER.BITNET
From: terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: c-kermit.exe with multinet?
Date: 6 Jan 93 02:24:12 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <00966298.8FFD6DA0.4148@lambic.fnal.gov>, isenhour@LAMBIC.FNAL.GOV ("John L. Isenhour") writes:
> Anyone know where I ftp the new vms c-kermit with multinet (and scripting etc.)
> support compiled in?  Watsun only has the stripped down version.  

  Watsun has ckvvtgv.hex, which is the file you want, in kermit/b (with the
rest of the C-Kermit files). There's also the vanilla no-TCP version for both
VAX/VMS and Alpha VMS, as well as one for UCX VAX/VMS.

	Terry Kennedy		Operations Manager, Academic Computing
	terry@spcvxa.bitnet	St. Peter's College, Jersey City, NJ USA
	terry@spcvxa.spc.edu	+1 201 915 9381