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From: probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: how to mount a permanent partition to root??
Date: 23 Dec 1992 12:06:26 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

cl820@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Wei Jin Mai) writes:


>   I read all the guides and SFAQ last night . None of them tell how to
>mount another Linux partition permanently. There are 2 Linux partitions in
>my harddisk. hda3 houses the root. hda4 sis 60 megabytes and is free.
>Now I want to install X-windows and set up a swap file which nneed more
>disk space than hda3 has. How do I mount hda4 PERMANENTLY to the root 
>directory in hda3?
>-- 
>Weijin Mai

What do you mean by PERMANENTLY?? You can put a fs on hda4 by issuing the
mkfs command on it. After that mounting at boot would consist of adding
the following line to fstab:

/dev/hda4	/mnt	minix	defaults

You would have to change minix to ext, if you made an extfs on hda4, but 
otherwise it would look the same. Also, you would have to change /mnt to the
actual directory you wanted to mount onto.

What most people do is have another partition for /usr/ and mount it on there.

James
From: hedrick@geneva.rutgers.edu (Charles Hedrick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: 0.99.2 compile prob #2
Keywords: 0.99.2 compile problem
Date: 2 Jan 93 21:22:38 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

>Okay, no matter soft link or actual copy, the .99p2 cannot be compiled.
>I've grep all files from the patch kit and patched files, I CANNOT find
>definition for KEYBOARD_BH, and that's why the make process cannot be
>completed.

It's in /usr/src/linux/include/linux/interrupt.h.  It should also be
accessible via /usr/include/linux/interrupt.h if you've got the right
symlinks.  I built .99p1 and then .99p2 with no problems, using gcc
2.2.2d.  My copy of .99p2 was produced by using patch -p0 <diffs.

Things to check if you're having compilation problems:
  - make sure /usr/include/linux and asm are symlinks to
	/usr/src/linux/include/linux and asm.
  - make sure you do "make config", "make dep", and "make clean" after
	moving to a new patch level.
From: gloesener@istvax.ist.lu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: LINUX boot from SCSI drive ?
Date: 21 Dec 1992 03:12:49 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Hi,

I'am just installing Linux on a PC having a SCSI drive (Linux V0.98) and
now I want to boot Linux from this drive. As I read, PCBOOT is used for this
purpose but in the documentation of PCBOOT theire is no explanation about
the values used to boot from device /dev/sda* (SCSI) only for normal hardisks
/dev/hd*. Can anybody tell me how to boot from my SCSI drive, please.

                                                Gasty Gloesener

-GG-
From: Dave-Nuttall@cup.portal.com (David Dave Nuttall)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: UUCP 103 (taylor)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 04:47:14 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

I am also having difficulty compiling Taylor UUCP 103 under Linux 0.99pl1.
Commenting out the line:
	#define strncasecmp strnicmp

does not fix it....rather it results in an error pointing at line
1182 which is apparently:

	extern int strncasecmp P((const char *z1, const char *z2, int clen));

If you comment out that line, it just gets worse!
Any constructive comments would be appreciated.
Thanks.

(And "Read the FAQ" is cute, but no always instructive or constructive.)
From: rtkao@remus.rutgers.edu (Richard Kao)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: [Q] Problems with mount -t msdos
Date: 23 Dec 92 19:51:25 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I have mounted 3 msdos partitions and when I try to copy files to them
as non root user I get the message operation not permitted, but the
file is copied to the msdos partition.  If I do it as root I don't get
the message.  Is there a reason this happens?
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From: marcf@nexus.yorku.ca (Marc G Fournier)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Question and Observations
Date: 29 Dec 92 02:07:49 GMT
Organization: York University

pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald) writes:

>I made a mistake when I put together the shadow.taz package:
>I should not have included /etc/passwd in it.

	Should not have been included?  Do you mean that there should
not be a /etc/passwd file, or that it shouldn't have overwritten the
one that was there?

>I am doing the best I can with SLS.  I can't help the fact
>that minor errors on my part result in extra postings on
>the internet.  A hazard of the trade.  What you don't see
>are the countless hours I spent collecting and configuring
>the tcpip system, shadow passwords, the install scripts, etc.
>Please be patient and you will be rewarded.  But if you need
>a finished product now, try SCO or DELL.

	Sorry...didn't mean to give the impression that I think you
are doing anything less then an excellent job...getting SLS up and
running has been a piece of cake...just some of the tweaking for an
individual site tends to be causing headaches :)

	As for SCO/DELL...NAWT!  Cost is too great, considering that
most of the stuff on either I would replace with the much improved
versions that can be found on the net.  All I basically have left of
my old OS is the kernel...everything else has been basically replaced :)

	One thing that would be nice to  see in the future is some 
sort of configuration script that would at least  set you up
sitename/domainname wise :)  Especially in the tcp/ip package...still
haven't gotten that thing configured correctly :(  Or maybe even just a
list of files that have to be changed?

	Thanks Peter...for all of your time.  

Marc
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From: wonge@fraser.sfu.ca (Edmund Wong)
Subject: Error while 'make'?  
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 13:01:59 GMT


   Hi, 'tis me again.

    I was wondering if someone can help me.  I got poeigl??.tar from
tsx-11.mit.edu and untar'd it to my linux partition and after that,
did a 'make' command.

    It compiled for some time, but ended up sending me an error message of
the following kind:-

  /#> make
  cc -static -s -o login login.o vhangup.o getpass.o
  ld: No such file or directory for libgcc.a
  make: *** [login] Error 1

   Can someone please enlighten me on what kind of problem I've 
encountered?  Did I miss a package?  I've remembered installing 
ALL of c1..c4 when I first installed Linux on my partition?  
What is 'libgcc.a' anyway?

   While I'm at it, I hope someone can also help me with a non-root
user problem.   Like the situation is that I've been re-installing
a2-a4 for more than 10 times because of me screwing around with 
the inittab file as well as the 'getty' and 'uugetty' commands,
which I still haven't figured out yet.  

   The problem is that now, when I relogin as a non-root user,
say 'wonge' and enter my usual password, I get the following
stuff:-

  Welcome to Linux SLS ....
  .
  .
  Last login: Sat Dec 26 04:39:17 on tty2
  Your password will expire in 0 days.
  No mail.
  shell-init: Permission denied.
  pwd: Permission denied
  : Permission denied
  # 

   When I, as the non-root user, do a 'w' command, the following
things appear:-

  : Permission denied
  /dev/kmem: Permission denied
  : Permission denied
  pwd: Permission denied
  : Permission denied
  #
  
   Then it throws me back at the prompt.  I know, for one fact that,
as the root user, I screwed around with too much stuff, and like,
all hell has broken loose.  Can someone enlighten me to what I did
wrong?  

   Ughh..  like no offense to anyone, but like it's getting a TAD
bit frustrating when nothing seems to be working right as well as things
that USED to be working, don't work, and meanwhile, things that I'm 
trying to get working, DON'T work at all in the first place (namely
the remote login's and stuff related to that....  I've had some information
given by all you kind Linux experts, but I'm now, TOTALLY confused in what
I'm supposed to do.  HELP!!!!!!_)

   BTW, any help appreciated, and at this moment, DEFINITELY needed!

Thanks

   
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From: rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Budi Rahardjo)
Subject: Looking for a complete termcap
Keywords: termcap
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 14:14:38 GMT

I am looking for a working and complete /etc/termcap.
After playing with it for a while I managed to trash it
(ie vi sometimes inserts blank space when I do an insert
and I have to refresh the screen. Also 'less' complains of
missing stuff).


-- budi
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From: st1mb@jane.uh.edu (Supernaw-Issen, Daniel A.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: List of Broken Binaries for 0.99 [v1.1]
Date: 22 Dec 1992 11:02 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: jane.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Has anyone been able to get the dos emulator to work with linux 0.99?

daniel

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From: tjrc1@cus.cam.ac.uk (T.J.R. Cutts)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: SLS 0.99
Date: 21 Dec 92 18:19:00 GMT
Organization: U of Cambridge, England

As far as I could tell, the current SLS puts 0.99 on your hard disk and on the
boot floppy it makes, but disk a1/a2 still uses 0.98pl5 for the initial boot.
Is this right, Matt?
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From: eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil (Eric Youngdale)
Subject: Re: compiling kernel...found problem??
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:52:20 GMT

In article <1677@tdat.teradata.COM> syy@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com writes:
>In article 725751581@yorku.ca, marcf@nexus.yorku.ca (Marc G Fournier) writes:
>>Hi...
>>
>>	The problem is, or error is:
>>
>>inode.c:22: #error The iso9660 filesystem can only be used with CDROM.
>>make[2]: *** [dep] Error 1
>>make[1]: *** [dep] Error 1
>>make: *** [dep] Error 1
>>
>I was getting exactly same problem.  I would appreciated the answer, too.

	Simple.  Comment out line 22 in fs/isofs/inode.c.  This is fixed in the
ALPHA-diffs (which means that it will be fixed in 1.0).

-Eric
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From: nomad@watson.ibm.com (Lee `nomaD` Damon)
Subject: uux failure (was Re: UUCP 103 (taylor))
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:48:30 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

I have a different propblem. I've gotten Taylor 1.03 compiled,
installed and it seems to work except for one very annoying bug.

When uux is called by smail, it writes the control file, but fails to
write the data files. As in, the file that tells uucico what to
transfer is written out, but the mail headers and body aren't.

I get mail to postmaster that uux failed with EX_1 (err 144) but I
haven't had much time or luck in tracking it. I've tried calling uux
with -x9, (even x19), but still only get the one line of error output.

Has anyone seen this before? Can anyone give me clues?

thanks
nomad
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From: kf8nh@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux and OS/2
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 19:02:10 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Brandon S. Allbery's Personal System

erwin#m#_mike.ast_-_tac_mail_server@msgate.corp.apple.com (Mike Erwin) writes:
> In article <RwciwB1w164w@uuisis.isis.org> Evan Champion,
> >I would like to run Linux and OS/2 together on the same machine.  Is it 
> >possible to boot linux in a virtual DOS machine?  If not, could someone 
> 
> Linux will not boot in a virtual DOS machine.  Linux is an operating system
> unto itself.  By running a VDM you assume that DOS will be the Operating
> Control Platform, not Linux.  Linux must be booted from its own partition. 
> You can't run another whole operating system inside of another; the only
> reason why OS/2 runs virtual DOS sessions is that it was designed to be a
> "multi-user front-end for  DOS & Windows apps."  

This is not quite correct.  I already sent Evan mail about his question, but
this misinformation deserves a public response.

Linux won't run in an OS/2 VDM because the VDM is in "virtual 8086" mode,
and runs its code in ring 3.  Linux is a full *386* OS and must run from
ring 0, which OS/2 does not and can not permit.  As for OS/2 VDMs in
general, I encourage you to look up "specific DOS" in your manual and
generalize --- it should be possible to run an 8086 operating system in a
Specific quote-DOS-unquote session by following the directions for creating
a Specific DOS booter with your 8086 OS's boot disk.  (Say, early Coherent.
Coherent 4.x won't work, and if 3.x uses 286 protected-mode instructions it
won't work either.  Stock Minix (not the 386 version) should also work.)

++Brandon (I played with OS/2 a little, but it didn't do what I want)

He's BAAAACK! Brandon S. Allbery     NOTE NEW ADDRESS!!! kf8nh@kf8nh.wariat.org
From: Darin.Wayrynen@f145.n114.z1.fidonet.org (Darin Wayrynen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: location (non-ftp) of 8514 X
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 06:58:01 -0800

I have an ATI 8514/A video card.  I previously saw mentioned in this
conference the availability of a 8514 version of X for Linux.

Anyone know where I can get it without going through FTP?

Thanks,

Darin Wayrynen
 * Origin: Paragon BBS (602) 938-8288 (1.2 gigs/Windows Support)
(1:114/145)

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From: a080700@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk (Stephen Wong S M)
Subject: Re: Installing SLS on my Gateway Nomad
Organization: The Chinese University of Hong Kong
Distribution: comp
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 02:23:36 GMT

In article <CLOOS.92Dec31011120@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU> cloos@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (James H. Cloos Jr.) writes:
>I re-installed my sls disks, after dl'ing the c series, too.  I did a
>385 cyl root partition (65450 Ko) as a minix fs, and a 200 cyl (34000
>Ko) /home partition as an extfs.  As I still do not have my ram
>upgrade, I set up a 8500 Ko swap partition and the rest of the disk
>(100 cyl = 17000 Ko) will be for my dos needs--would that they were
>not in fact *needs*.

Your configuration should be okay!

>Anyway, it all seems to be running OK, though I am stuck in 80x25 text
>mode.  Looking thru the kernal src (99.1, from sunsite's incomming
>dir) I didn't find what I need to change to get 80x50 text mode.  I

do the following:-

1) login as root
2) rdev -v <bootImage> [-1|-2|-3]
3) reboot

replace <bootImage> by your kernel (ie. if you're using boot floppy, it's
/dev/fd0), choose -1 if you want 80x25, choose -2 if you want VGA (80x50?),
choose -3 if you want to be asked every time you boot!

>also cannot get /proc to show up.  Do I need an entry in /etc/fstab
>or something???

You either use the command

mount -t proc /proc /proc

or add a line to the /etc/fstab like the following

/proc	proc	/proc	defaults

>I just have to make sure that I have the latest versions of the extfs
>utilities, dl term-0.7 to let me do background dl's, and get the t and
>x series installed, not to mention all those recently announced fsf
>packages, etc.  Thanks in advance to whomever did them--I'm quite
>short for disk space here until I get the desktop system to backup the
>Nomad.
>
>Again:  Vielen Kudos to Linus, Softlanding, and every other contributor!
>Man is it great to be the sysadmin for a change!
>
>P.S.	Almost forgot:  HOW do I add users such that the shadow files get
>	updated.  Using the routines in the SLS distrib, even passwd(1),
>	I only see changes to /etc/passwd & /etc/groups.  Because I used
>	passwd(1) to set my root passwd, I get "no shadow entry for root's
>	password" (or some such) errors whenever I log in....

The commands in SLS should be okay to use shadow password, except you have
to set permissions correctly.

>
>-JimC
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From: mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: setup for linux
Date: 26 Dec 1992 16:27:45 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu


In article <1992Dec25.193840.3569@cdf.toronto.edu>
a1001032@cdf.toronto.edu (Fiona Wong) writes:
>
> I'm going to buy a setup like this:
>
> 486DX-50 ISA board
> 8Mb RAM

I would strongly recommend more RAM, but it's not required.

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From: wto@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (William T. O Connell)
Subject: [Q] Can't keep lpd daemon running
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 17:34:09 GMT


I have setup the lpr package that I just FTP'ed. But when I 
either start the daemon (lpd) from rc.local or the command line
(i.e. /dev/etc/lpd &) it dies with no signs.

The output from lpq: 

<<< Output from lpq >>>
Warning: no daemon present        <--------- It's dead
Rank   Owner      Job  Files                                 Total Size
1st    root       2    readme.lpr                            2466 bytes
2nd    root       3    t                                     3 bytes


Daemon permissions:

<<< Permissions of lpd >>>
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        37892 Nov 19 23:32 /usr/etc/lpd

Any clues would be appreciated.

- Bill       wto@ihlpx.att.com

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From: andrewc@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew J. Cosgriff !)
Subject: Re: where is the NEW telnetd ?
Keywords: telnetd location
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 10:03:23 GMT

nhc@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (n.h.chandler) writes:

>In article <1992Dec21.181823.26851@samba.oit.unc.edu>, jem@sunSITE.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid) writes:
>> In article <simmon.724957537@maxwell> simmon@eeel.nist.gov (Eric Simmon) writes:
>> >I am trying to get telnet (tcpip) running with the new kernel (0.99),
>> >I can telnet out of my machine, but I can not telnet in from the outside.
>> >Someone mentioned that there is a new telnetd which solves these probs.
>> >Is this true, and if so where is telnetd?
>> 
>> there is a fairly new telnetd on sunsite.unc.edu in /pub/Linux/system/Network 
>> 
>> I am still having some problems with it though, on my machine; it takes
>> about a minute to allow a login.  I 've heard that this is
>> becuase I am not running named and it is waiting for named timing out;
>> 
>> I'm going to look into this though...
>> 
>> jem.
>>-----

>This telnet does not allow logins to my Linux machine.  It connects
>and then hangs.

I had exactly the same problem - anything run as root that was TCPIPish
would hang...
Then it spread to anyone running anything TCPIPish via inetd...


So I turfed the whole inet directory and grabbed tcpip.tar.Z outa the
SLS...Works fine now !


Happy playing !

Cos !
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From: liu-pangfeng@cs.yale.edu (Pangfeng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: App. defaults for Seyon 1.6
Date: 2 Jan 1993 12:28:06 -0500
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Yale University, New Haven, CT 06511
	<1i1rd4INN39j@EBONY.THEORY.CS.YALE.EDU>
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In-reply-to: liu-pangfeng@cs.yale.edu's message of 1 Jan 1993 11:27:15 -0500

In article <1i1rd4INN39j@EBONY.THEORY.CS.YALE.EDU> liu-pangfeng@cs.yale.edu (Pangfeng Liu) writes:

   I had the same problem and by copying the app-default file into
   /usr/X386/lib/X11/appdefaults I got those color buttons working.
   However, after I dial a number and connect to a remote system, the
   xterm window does not response.  The window will display connect
   message (like "connect 9600" if I remember corectly) and then does not
   response to any keyboard stoke.  Does anyone know what the problem is?

   Many thanks.

   -- 
   Pang-feng Liu			   
   Internet: liu-pangfeng@cs.yale.edu  

Thanks for all the suggestions I received from e-mail.  I turn the nl
mode on in the setting and the problem is gone.


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From: girardi@rniil.rni.sub.org (Norbert J. Girardi)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Question and Observations
Date: 30 Dec 92 10:40:35 GMT
Organization: House of the German Squaredance Freaks

whit@Tymnet.COM (Kendall Whitlatch) writes:

> pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald) writes:
> |I am doing the best I can with SLS.  I can't help the fact
> |that minor errors on my part result in extra postings on
> |the internet.  A hazard of the trade.  What you don't see
> |are the countless hours I spent collecting and configuring
> |the tcpip system, shadow passwords, the install scripts, etc.
> |Please be patient and you will be rewarded.  But if you need
> |a finished product now, try SCO or DELL.
> |
> |Peter
>
> I just wanted to extend to Peter my thanks for compiling the SLS package.
> If it wasn't for him I think the spread of Linux would have been VERY
> limited.  I personally am not interested in combing through all the FTP
> sites trying to find code that I can run on (much less port to) Linux.

I fully agree with Kendall. For us POOR people just hanging on UUCP only
sites Peter McDonaldos work has been the best since sliced bread.

I think because of Peters work LINUX is spreading almost like a disease :-))).

>
> Peter takes a pretty good beating here on C.O.L. every time any minor
> flaw in the package is found.  I think he needs a little applause for
> even attempting the task in the first place.
>

Those guys complaining about minor flaws in SLS are certanly are NOT the
 SILENT MAYORITY.
 So, Peter take the beating with a smile. You know that for each moron
 who is complaning there are at least hundreds of happy LINUXERS who
 really appreciate your efford.

> Thanks again.
    And again.
>
> Kendall Whitlatch
> whit@Tymnet.COM

    -Norbert

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