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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 13:55:13 PDT
From:         Michael <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Led Zeppelin lyrics
              2 Apr 1992 17:03:43 GMT from <rowhite@WRDIS01.AF.MIL>

Ron White,

I am having a dickens of a time
getting onto the Zeppelin address.
I guess my computer cannot use the code
you gave me.
All I ask for is the lyrics to the Presence album.
That's all I need.
If it is kosher to send lyrics over the mail,
and if it is not too much trouble for you,
please help me and "Armando" out.
Thanks.

Michael.
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 13:38:00 EST
From:         gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL
Subject: re: Metallica Concert
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>        Really? I was thinking about going to the one down here (New Orleans)
>but I wasn't sure (still ain't) braving the assholes would be worth it. Tell
>me, was the concert you went to in the South or in the North?
>        This also reminds me of a dream my little sister had-- she dreamed that
>she went to the Metallica concert, and there was nothing *but* black people
>there (save for James, Kirk, Lars, Jason)! Maybe someday... :-)
>
>Gerald D. Ladmirault

It was in Landover, Maryland...a small town outside of Washington DC. I don't
know whether that is considered the north or the south. Have you personally
had problems at concerts?...or just heard about them?

Seeya,
Gary

p.s. OMC stands for 'Obligatory Music Comment'
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 08:40:00 EST
From:         gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL
Subject:      re: Metallica Concert
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>>first album, and one of them was NOT 'Four Horsemen'. That was a small
>>disappointment. Also, they did not play 'My Friend Of Misery' my fav from
>>the newest album.

>>Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Jason take over the lead vocals on
>>'Seek And Destroy.'?

>  I saw them in Akron/Cleveland about 4 months ago and they did 4 Horesman at
>the first show but not at the second.
 Bummer...they probably played it at the 2nd show here...

>  Jason did take over on vocals on a FEW songs (mostly the ealier ones) if
>you watched closely.

Yeah, from my suck job seats, the only way I could tell the difference from
 James and Jason, sometimes, was the length of their guitar.

 Seeya,
 GaryM
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 00:09:00 EST
From:         ACCNEWS@HOFSTRA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Metal Lists

From: accjrs@hofstra.bitnet
Subject: Re: Metal Lists

Here's my two cents:

        1. War Pigs
           Black Sabbath -Paranoid

        2. Orion
           Metallica -Master of Puppets

        3. Controlled by Hatred
           Suicidal Tendancies(actually a No Mercy song) I forget the album
           name

        4. Last In Line
           Dio -Last In Line

        5. Sinner
           Judas Priest -Sin After Sin
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:29:00 EST
From:         ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU
Subject:      Re: Metal Lists (fwd)
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First heavy metal song: Mars, The Bringer of War by Holst 1920s-30s?
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 13:16:00 EST
From:         BULMER STEVEN R <BULMER@NL.NUSC.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Subliminal Tapes
X-To:         ALLMUSIC <ALLMUSIC%auvm.bitnet@brownvm.brown.edu>

[Warning this post contains subliminal messages]

I think that the biggest Bush sucks conspiracy in these
subliminal Bush sucks tapes is that they want you the
consumer to Bush sucks think that they do work infallibly,
whereas I would Bush sucks tend to agree with Michael Bloom
that there are different levels of Bush sucks suceptibility.
It seems that the most prolific subliminal ads that I Bush
sucks have seen have to do with "getting chicks" (as the
ads say) which seems to indicate that the biggest
Bush sucks sucker is the buyer, not the person exposed to the
tape itself.

-Steve B
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 12:04:16 CDT
From:         Leo Dy-Ragos <C504407@UMCVMB.BITNET>
Subject:      Please give me info!

I would very much die to see the Cure in concert on their rumored upcoming tour
.  does anyone have information about that?

Any and all responses will be appreciated, whether good news or otherwise.


Salamat,

Le0
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 11:33:00 EST
From:         gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL
Subject:      Lists
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I love making lists of various things. So...everybody send me your top 5
Led Zeppelin songs and your top 5 Metallica songs...also your favorite
albums by them. I'll post the results in a week or so.

DO NOT SEND THEM TO THE LIST.
SEND THEM TO ME: gmgettie@thama1.apgea.army.mil

I know many of you are sick of everybody's favorites and have small disc
quotas...so send them to me. My harddrive can take it. If you don't care for
one of the bands send your favs for the other. I hope everybody participates.

For the record...here are mine:

1)  Ride The Lightning             1)  Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You
2)  Four Horsemen                  2)  Dazed And Confused
3)  To Live Is To Die              3)  Thank You
4)  Disposable Heroes              4)  Kasmir
5)  My Friend Of Misery            5)  In The Evening
fav album -- Ride The Lightning    fav album -- Led Zeppelin (the 1st one)

Seeya,
Gary
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 10:53:54 CDT
From:         PAPEL@SDNET.BITNET
Subject:      Unsubscribe

     Please remove my name from this particular list as it has more detail
      than I can use.  Thanks.
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:51:45 EDT
From:         Mike Karolchik <MIKE@WVNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: CD Oxidation

Coming soon to an ALLMUSIC store near you:

Mike's No-OX Spray

One can of this spray-on coating permanently protects up to 50 CD's
from oxidation without any optical interference. All that peace of
mind at the low low cost of only $20 per can, and I'll just be
retiring from this program-pushing job.

(NOT)

-Mike t.l.g.
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 11:43:00 CDT
From:         "Richard H. Fisher" <ERRHF@TTACS.BITNET>
Subject:      Kerrville Folk Festival...again

I forgot to include a couple of names on the roster of musicians who will
be playing at the Kerrville Folk Festival.  Also playing (on the last day)
will be
        Paul Glasse Sexton
    and Timbuk 3.

Richard.
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:39:20 EST
From:         DAVE TEICHROEB <SOEDAVE@VM.UOGUELPH.CA>
Subject:      re: "Metal Rules" (revised)
              15 Apr 1992 09:54:51 CDT from
              <Lee=Jenkins%Factory=Sup%Mfg=Hou@BANGATE.COMPAQ.COM>

Bob Rock, of Payolas fame, is the king of good drum sounds. Too his credit are
many recent heavy metal releases. He hails from lotus land (Vancouver).

Dave Teichroeb
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:53:34 PST
From:         "Michael M. Masuda" <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Beatle MacCartney's 1966 solo album
              7 Apr 1992 12:41:49 GMT from <jshumate@WRDIS01.AF.MIL>

Jason,

Thank you very much for the information on Paul's 1966
album.  I will keep a definite lookout for it around this area.
I knew I confused a lot of the information.
Sorry out there, if I led yous on.

peace and smiles,
Mike
From: WP921051@PACEVM.BITNET (Ace)
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Subject: Bible music...
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:05:27 GMT
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To all:
     Thanx for all the ideas!!!  I must say though, that I wasn't able to do th
e paper, as the day after I asked for the songs, my mainframe acct. was frozen
and I had absolutely no access to all the suggestions.  I ended up doing a
paper on _Jesus_Christ_Superstar_, that came out really good.  Sorry for
putting y'all through the rig-a-ma-roll, but it was beyond my control.  For all
 who care, as you can  see, I have a new code, WP921051.  Again, thanx for all
the help...
Latle.........................
                              Ace
Life is short, in fact, it only lasts two days... The day you're born and the
  day you die.  For the time in between, you try to survive.
                                                           Anonymous
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 11:52:38 EDT
From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      I'm Baaaack

Just wanted to let you all know that I'm back (and exhausted) after a
weird and wonderful wedding and honeymoon.  I'll spare you the blow by
blow (Carol should have a field day with that), but suffice it to say
that:

    1.  The wedding was a truly strange experience which I would recommend
        to anyone.
    2.  I'm glad I don't have to do it again.
    3.  The honeymoon was grand.  We stayed in several resort hotels (The
        Homestead among them) that we couldn't afford (even in our dreams)
        otherwise.

BTW, while we were in Roanoke, VA (with car trouble), I saw a poster for a
band called California, which features Dan Crary (guitarist extraordinaire)
and Byron Berline (fiddling fool), along with some other names that seemed
vaguely familiar at the time (someone Spurgin?) but which seem to have
sifted through the seive of my memory.  In case anyone is interested, they're
playing at a club called Iroquois in Roanoke tomorrow night.

-Scott "Happily Married" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 11:10:25 EDT
From:         Don <STDG@MARIST.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Oh no! The CDs are falling!!!
              6 Apr 1992 11:41:00 CST from <UCSTJT@UCS.UWPLATT.EDU>

I think the major problem here is that, not that you wont be listning
to the music by the time they wear out or that you only paid 14$ for a
disc or that somebody thinks that this is all bullshit, it is the FACT
that the whole world was told that these discs were INDESTRUCTABLE(?).
You could wash them in water (yea right) and could handle them without
worrying about ruining the sound....obviously they are completely wrong,
they (The Music Industry as well as the Makers of the CD) lied
to the whole world and now people (Like myself) are pissed off. Another
gimmick by the music world.

It is sad...but true.
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 10:36:00 EDT
From:         Steve Rife <STEV@MCO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: ROM, I said

I plan on posting the 3M article to the list, as long as it isn't extremely
long, if it is I will post as much of it as I can.


Steve Rife
(STEV@MCO)
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From: modester@IASTATE.EDU (Matthew R Hodges)
Subject: The Cure (mailing lists)
Keywords: subscriptions
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 00:39:47 GMT



  Due to problems with the server the moderated Cure digest has not been issued
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If you are not subscribed to either and wish to be, the address for the
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sorry for the inconvenience (or welcome to the list)

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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 10:16:32 CDT
From:         Lee=Jenkins%Factory=Sup%Mfg=Hou@BANGATE.COMPAQ.COM
Subject:      re: Song title?
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>From:           "Jim Kirkman (LP)" <LESPAUL%UNC.BITNET@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>
>Subject:        Song title?
>Date:           Thursday, April 16, 1992 at 10:47:00 am CDT
>
>OK all you power trio fans (not to be confused with power tool
>fans), there's a little ditti by that "little ole band from
>Texass" that I think is called "The Range" but I'm not sure.
>It includes the lines (in a Leon Redbone style don't you know)
>"Now let me know,
> If you wanna go
> Down on the range....
>
> They gotta lotta nice girls
> down there...", screaming guitars go here!
>Is this ZZ Top song called "The Range" or something else and on
>what disc can it be found? Thanks
>
>                                          L.P.
>

La Grange - it's a song about a little place in la grange texas that doesn't
exist anymore.  for more information, see the film, "the best little
whorehouse in texas".

the title of the album escapes me, but i'm sure someone else will have supplied
it before i finish typing this post.

lee
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 13:04:19 -0400
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      software? NO!
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  I have a problem with the concept that record companies sell you "software"
and so are not liable for how long it lasts.  The software is distributed
on a piece of hardware, and it's the hardware that is rumored to be failing.
A case could be made that there was at least a strong implication that the
CD hardware would not fail "soon", if ever.  If they are failing, then I find
it hard to believe that there *wouldn't* be a lawyer willing to give it a go.

  I think I was the one that started this thing a while ago.  The article
I saw dealt with CD-ROMS and a 3-5 year life span.  I don't know if their
processing is any different than music CDs. I don't know where the article
originated.  I do know that if businesses are being screwed by defective
CDs, someone *will* get sued.  It's the American way.

Russ
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 09:10:54 EDT
From:         "Michael H. Bloom" <MHB@MITVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Metal Lists
              9 Apr 1992 16:48:00 EDT from <JL_BOBROWITZ@ACAD.FANDM.EDU>

On Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:48:00 EDT <JL_BOBROWITZ@ACAD.FANDM.EDU> said:
>2-I'm attempting to put together a countdown for my radio show. Can people
>send me lists of their Top 3 Metal/Hard Rock songs of all time? It would truly
>be appreciated.

#3: Genesis, "Watcher of the Skies" (the _Genesis Live_ version is better)

#2: King Crimson, "Larks' Tongues in Aspic, Part 1" (although your audience
    will probably find Part 2 easier to sit through-- anyway, Crimso rules)

#1: Henry Cow, "Living in the Heart of the Beast" from _In Praise of Learning_

You might also consider something from _Fragile_ by Yes, their metal period :-)
Hope this helps
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 12:39:42 EDT
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Oh no! The CDs are falling!!!

On Tue, 7 Apr 1992 11:04:25 EDT Don said:
>The CD, even though it is covered in plastic, will oxidize eventually
>because the actual oxyegen moleclue is so small(?) it has the abiltiy to passs
>through anything.

I'd believe that of helium or hydrogen, but not necessarily of O2.
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:47:58 EDT
From:         HUNK@BRUFPB2.BITNET

Hi Yngve Hauge,
I have received your reply for my mail.
Maybe we could talk a lot about pop rock. You know Madonna, The Pet Shop
Boys, Seal, Dire Straits, Rick Astley and much more....
The problem lies on the fact that I can contact you via BITNET only.
Have you got any access for BITNET ?
Let me know.
Yours faithfully,
Admir, on the far (but not outlying) So. America.
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 14:10:17 PDT
From:         The Lion of Symmetry <John.McCartney@EBAY.SUN.COM>
Subject: Re: CD COSTS
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>a unit price of $1.75 plus printing costs

I'd be interested in seeing your printing and packaging costs, be sure
to specify what type of booklet/insert (# of pages/# of colors) and
type of packaging (longbox?).

According to Musician magazine (some months ago), record companies
have a standard charge of $4 per cd for packaging, charged against
thee artist's take. Somehow I doubt it costs this much, especially
in the quantities that major releases are pressed in.

The article also mentioned that Michael Jackson managed to get this
charge reduced a little in his latest contract, but they knew of no
other artists who had.


scorch
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 11:21:46 EDT
From:         "Michael H. Bloom" <MHB@MITVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Oh no! The CDs are falling!!!

On Mon, 6 Apr 1992 08:35:00 EDT Steve Rife said:
>     I also have been buying CD's for about 9 years now.  There is no
>evidence of the older ones wearing out.  Will they just one day stop
>working ?

I don't know how error correction works; I assume it would still try to make
its best guess what the signal was supposed to be, perhaps extrapolating from
the samples on either side. I suppose when the mis-reads get really extreme,
the player would just stop interpreting them and shut up until it can trust
what it reads again-- tiny little dropouts.

>     I'm sorry it sounds to crazy, if true the record companies are in
>for a lot of law suites.

Even though we're the most litigious society in the history of the planet,
I don't think any lawyer would take on such a suit. You didn't get to sue
because records wore out, did you? Doesn't anybody remember what Big Black
wrote in the liner notes for their CD _The Rich Man's Eight Track?_ Record
companies are not in any way obligated to guarantee the long term usability
of their software. Hey, you're not supposed to care anyway, you're supposed
to be a good consumer and buy the hot new stuff they tell you to buy...

Anyway, the version of the CD decay story I heard was that it depended on the
inks used in printing the picture on the non-playable side of the disc, which
they still call the label. Some of the more clueless pressing plants used inks
with acids and other volatiles in them, and those have already begun to eat up
the aluminized bits (says the story). Other inks are supposed to be stable.
It's still part of the folklore, as I heard it from my brother, who's not in
any better position to know than I am.

You might be interested to know that Philips, which invented the CD, has a deal
with its employees, that they can each buy up to 5 CD's per month at cost (about
$7 per disc) from the Polygram family of labels-- which includes the Philips and
Deutsche Grammophon catalogs, as well as all the good old Rush albums :-)
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:39:00 EDT
From:         "BTW, which one's Pink?" <TIFFANYDE@URVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Peter Murphy and a cry for help

Anyone heard the new album?  I love _Deep_ and have heard the new one is
killer as well.

Oh yah, I got the Judgement of Paris CD, Conversion.  Thanks for the
suggestion, woj.

later days and sunny rays,
                          D.T>
-----------------------+---------------------------+-------------------------
Derek Tiffany          | TIFFANYDE@URVAX.URICH.EDU | URICH, cuz you gotta be
University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu    |<= djt{zero}u@aurora...
-----------------------+---------------------------+-------------------------
Cry fir help -
  If there is anyone out there involved in the "military-industrial complex"
please drop me a note.  Thanks.
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:15:32 EDT
From:         Ken Josenhans <13020KRJ@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Cooking Vinyl (was Brand Loyalty)

Michael H. Bloom <MHB@MITVMA.BITNET> asks about
                                     the UK's Cooking Vinyl label:
> Did they not also do some Blowzabella and Boiled In Lead albums?

What?  You expect me to go home and do *research*?  :-)
I think that Cooking Vinyl was the UK licensee for the 3rd and
4th Boiled in Lead albums.  CV never issued a proper Blowzabella
album, but they did release the spinoff project "Ancient Beatbox",
which had Paul James and Nigel Eaton attempting to create some
contemporary dance music out of Blowzabella's instrumental framework
(with a little vocal help from Sheila Chandra).

Lessee, other CV artists who I didn't mention were The Ukrainians
(folk-oid spinoff from The Wedding Present, which is a concept I
still don't fully understand) and Biggie Tembo (ex-Bhundu Boys).
Hmm, one of these days I should do a complete album list for CV;
I think I have all the info in back issues of FOLK ROOTS.

Since we were speaking of Blowzabella:  several of the Blowzabella
gang are now performing in a band called Scarp.  I haven't heard
of any recordings yet.

 -- Ken
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:45:58 EDT
From:         woj@REMUS.RUTGERS.EDU
Subject:      marillion
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JEPSTEIN@KENTVM.BITNET (jon) writes:
>saw marillion last night.  the show was sold out.  they were really good but...
>a marillion without fish is just not the same. oh well.........

i listened to _holidays in eden_ (the new one - the import version too i
might add) last night for the second time around. and i must honestly say
that it is a much better album than _season's end_. hogarth's voice is
still annoying since there is no way that he can ever replace fish, but
musically, they're listenable again. pretty amazing, huh?

(i'm back...i think)

woj
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