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From: rwh@moose.cccs.umn.edu (RICHARD HOFFBECK)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: VT220 terminals (no escape key)
Date: 1 Oct 92 13:56:00 GMT
Reply-To: rwh@moose.cccs.umn.edu
Organization: Colon Cancer Control Study, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <ELLIOTTM.92Oct1005136@beach.csulb.edu>, elliottm@beach.csulb.edu (Mike Elliott) writes:
> I've recently had to begin using Emacs on a VAX using a VT220 terminal.  For
> those who are unaware, this is one of those funny DEC terminals with no escape
> key.  Since these terminals have been around for millennia, folks who are VMS
> Emacs users must have a good workaround for this problem -- something superior
> to the two key combination of ^[.  Any suggestions?
> -- 

If you go into the set-up menu (F3) and select the keyboard option, there is
an option to remap the ~ key above the TAB to send an ESCape instead. There
is also an option to put the <> keys back above the ,. keys. 

You can also change the meta character so one of the function keys serves as
the meta character.  Just don't use F1-F5 since they are used locally on the
terminal.  

Another change you might want to consider is to modify to COMM settings to
allow the use of ^S/^Q from within EMACS. Now if only the terminal emulators
that DEC distributes would support the ESC remapping. 

Good luck!

--rick

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From: langlais@bnr.ca (Guy L'Anglais)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: How do I use an incrementing value within a macro?
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:55:07 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


 I would like to implement a macro which basically goes through 
a file at regeular intervals and adds a character (Number) starting
from a variable that I specify at Run time. e.g. The macro would
query me , I reply with a 6 , and then the macro basically puts
the value in the file, increments the value, changes relative 
position and rexecutes a number of times.

Any Ideas.		

Thx
From: SPCook@cen.ex.ac.uk (S.P.Cook)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: "Wordstar" emulation
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:32:58 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Computer Unit. - University of Exeter. UK


A while ago, I thought I saw some GNU emacs lisp code to make emacs
feel like "Wordstar". Assuming I was not mistaken, does anyone know
where I can get it from? While we're here, if anyone can point me
to any other PC wordprocessor emulations for emacs, I should be most
grateful.

Thanks.

Stuart Cook
Xref: sparky comp.emacs:3219 gnu.emacs.sources:705
From: marshall@ll.mit.edu (Hunter Marshall)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs,gnu.emacs.sources
Subject: Re: problems compiling gnu v. 18.58
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:40:47 GMT
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory

In article <HOLLEN.92Sep26160632@peg.megatek.UUCP> hollen@megatek.UUCP (Dion Hollenbeck) writes:

    >>>>> On 24 Sep 92 20:59:17 GMT, moed@sol.ral.rpi.edu (Michael Moed) said:
    Mike> Nntp-Posting-Host: ral.rpi.edu

    Mike> I'm having problems compiling gnu emacs v. 18.58 under X11R4 and 
    Mike> Openwindows 3.0 on a SPARC.  Specifically,
    Mike> when it tries to link to the x libraries, it looks for liboldX.a.  My
    Mike> system doesn't have this library (which I believe is a leftover 
    Mike> of  X10).

    liboldX.a is not a leftover of X10.  It is a part of X11 so that
    functions in X10 which went away in X11 can be used by programs which
    have not been updated.

As a note, I believe that the only need for liboldX is to have the old
X menus available. One has control over this in the Makefile (I think)
where a macro is defined and described (I don't have the sources around).

	hunter
From: HAC041@DJUKFA11.BITNET (Konrad Hinsen)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: Editing DOS files on Unix with emacs
Date: 27 Sep 92 10:57:39 GMT
Organization: Forschungszentrum Juelich

In article <19920925.105830.464@almaden.ibm.com>, mickeyf@vnet.ibm.com (Mickey
Ferguson) says:
>
>on my Unix (SunOS 4.1.2) workstation.  By DOS-format, I mean that if I
>bring the file into a buffer, it would have a ^M at the end of every line.
>
The Atari ST port of Emacs contains a special minor mode for editing
DOS files, i.e. files with CRs in addition to LFs. It is invoked
automatically when such a file is loaded. It works well in practice
and in the meantime I have even forgotten which of my files have
CRs and which don't. Presumably DOS-mode will also work under Unix.

Konrad Hinsen (hac041@zam001.zam.kfa-juelich.de)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs,gnu.emacs.gnews,news.software.readers
From: daveb@Ingres.COM (Dave Brower, DBMS hack, [510] 748-3418)
Subject: emacs/gnews kill help needed
Originator: daveb@lotus
Reply-To: daveb@lotus (Dave Brower, DBMS hack, [510] 748-3418)
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:35:13 GMT

I'd appreciate some simple examples of how to use the hook-kill
processing in Weiner's gnews.  The examples in the document are very
commplex, and do not directly address the simple question I have:

(1) what is the exact equivalent of an "rn" kill file line:

	/stuff/j

Has anyone got pre-written functions that would match the "rn"
functions of the "j" or "k" keys (junk this subject for the
session, and permanently kill it).

thanks,
-dB


Newsgroups: comp.emacs
From: gandalf@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Juergen Wagner)
Subject: Re: VT220 terminals (no escape key)
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:11:11 GMT

I have always been wondering how a company could possibly design a
keyboard without an ESC key... Maybe the users of the Very Mysterious
System don't need ESC that much...

Anyway, I suggest you use either Control-3 or you program one of the
function keys to produce ESC. For compatibility with DEC workstation
keyboards I usually take F11.

--Juergen
From: priestm@westminster.ac.uk (Mark Priestley)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: MicroEmacs for Windows
Date: 5 Oct 92 07:37:33 GMT
Organization: University of Westminster


A while back there was a post about a version of MicroEmacs to run under
Windows, but I seem to have binned it, and could find no reference to it in the
"available versions of emacs" post recently.

Can someone tell me where I can get this from?

Thanks in advance.

-- 
Mark Priestley      	    	    Email:  	priestm@sun.pcl.ac.uk
School of Computer Science ...
University of Westminster
115 New Cavendish Street    	    Telephone: 	071-911 5000 ext. 3653
Xref: sparky comp.emacs:3230 gnu.emacs.gnews:50 news.software.readers:1959
From: greg@phoenix (Gregory Nowak)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs,gnu.emacs.gnews,news.software.readers
Subject: Re: emacs/gnews kill help needed
Date: 30 Sep 92 11:11:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: Princeto.1992Sep30.111108.3540
Reply-To: greg@phoenix (Gregory Nowak)
Followup-To: gnu.emacs.gnews
Organization: Baguette Research Systems Inc.
Originator: news@nimaster

Note: followups redirected to gnu.emacs.gnews. It's certainly
appropriate, and need not be crossposted.

In article <1992Sep29.223513.23891@pony.Ingres.COM>, daveb@Ingres (Dave Brower, DBMS hack, [510] 748-3418) writes:
}I'd appreciate some simple examples of how to use the hook-kill
}processing in Weiner's gnews.  The examples in the document are very
}commplex, and do not directly address the simple question I have:
}
}(1) what is the exact equivalent of an "rn" kill file line:
}
}	/stuff/j
}
}Has anyone got pre-written functions that would match the "rn"
}functions of the "j" or "k" keys (junk this subject for the
}session, and permanently kill it).

Yes -- Gnews does! Say, for example, that you want to permanently kill
the subject of the article you're reading. First hit ESC K.

You get two windows, the top one being the regular Gnews window and
the bottom one in which you can edit the hook-kills for that
newsgroup..

Now type C-C C-L.  This tells Gnews you want to enter an
"article-junk-local" hook, and it will then proffer "Subject" as the
header you're interested in. Since in this case that's what you want,
just hit RET, and then C-C C-C which saves the hook-kill, and gives
you back the one-window Gnews buffer. A few more keystrokes than "K"
in rn when you want to kill a subject, but a lot more flexible. If you
want  to kill by poster name  or crossposted newsgroup, just delete
"Subject" when it's proffered, and replace it with the appropriate
header tag. NOTE: You do NOT have to type in the contents of the
header line! Gnews does that for you. Before you save with C-C C-C,
you get to see the new hook-kill; after you've done a few of these, I
bet you'll get the idea and start coming up with your own techniques. 

The hook-kill buffer is editable, so you can always edit it to
un-kill a subject or name. 

For advanced users: at the group selection level, , ESC K first allows
you to do regexp matching on group names ( "." matches all groups), so
you can do hook-kills for a class of newsgroups, for example, killing
all posts from a certain user in the "sci" groups, but leaving his
posts to rec.arts.star-trek alone. 

Good luck, and thanks again, Matthew!

--greg
From: arrigo@cube.sublink.org (Arrigo Benedetti)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: File local-variables error ???
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:32:23 GMT
Reply-To: arrigo@cube.sublink.org
Organization: Arrigo Benedetti


Whenever I start editing a file with Emacs I get this message:

File local-variables error: (error "Local variables entry is missing the  
prefix

What does this mean?

-arrigo

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University of Bologna                benedett@deis01.cineca.it
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From: jbw@bigbird.bu.edu (Joe Wells)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: Emacs Versions (was: Re: can I source .emacs from within emacs?)
Date: 5 Oct 92 01:40:42 GMT
 <19o1mrINNmni@early-bird.think.com>
 <19sc8aINNb0v@fbi-news.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE>
 <19spunINNn35@early-bird.think.com>
Organization: Boston University Computer Science Department
In-reply-to: barmar@think.com's message of 24 Sep 92 16:21:43 GMT

In article <19spunINNn35@early-bird.think.com> barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin) writes:

   There are variants of GNU Emacs as well.  Epoch and Lucid Emacs 19 are
   versions that have many extensions to make use of X better.  KEmacs is
   modified to support Japanese editing.

Nemacs (Nihongo Emacs) is the GNU Emacs derivative for Japanese editing.
I believe KEmacs is derived from MicroEmacs.

-- 
Joe Wells <jbw@cs.bu.edu>
Member of the League for Programming Freedom --- send e-mail for details
From: krvw@cert.org (Kenneth R. van Wyk)
Newsgroups: comp.virus
Subject: I-M124.ZIP - Integrity Master data integrity/anti-virus (PC)
Date: 27 Sep 92 06:44:00 GMT

I have uploaded to WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil a new version of Integrity
Master which I received on floppy disk directly from the author, Wolfgang
Stiller.

pd1:<msdos.trojan-pro>
I-M124.ZIP      Integrity Master data integrity/anti-virus sys

Ken
- - -
Kenneth R. van Wyk
Moderator VIRUS-L/comp.virus
Technical Coordinator, Computer Emergency Response Team
Software Engineering Institute
Carnegie Mellon University
krvw@CERT.ORG       (work)
ken@THANG.PGH.PA.US (home)
(412) 268-7090  (CERT 24 hour hotline)
From: wew@naucse.cse.nau.edu (Bill Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.virus
Subject: Bloomington virus? (PC)
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:50:31 GMT

Can anyone tell me about the Bloomington virus and how to get rid of
it?  We have a number of machines in our lab that somehow were
infected with this strain.  Does the latest Central Point Anti-virus
handle this one?

Thanks.

- -- 
Let sleeping dragons lie........                    | The RoleMancer 
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
William Wilson (wew@naucse.cse.nau.edu | wilson@nauvax)
Northern AZ Univ  Flagstaff, AZ 86011
From: jwright@cfht.hawaii.edu (Jim Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.virus
Subject: Archive access without anonymous ftp last changed 11 July 1992
Date: 1 Oct 92 18:51:26 GMT

Archive access without anonymous ftp	last changed 11 July 1992

To get files from the anti-viral archives, you do not need access
to anonymous ftp.  (However, anonymous ftp is generally the preferred
method.)  Below is information on accessing the archive sites using
only email.

                           -=-

The AppleII, Atari ST and IBMPC archives have mail servers which
provide access to their archives.  You may receive automatic updates
of Macintosh anti-viral programs via email.  See the individual articles
on these sites.

                           -=-

One way to get access to the archives is through the BITFTP server
at Princeton.  Send a message to the BITNET address is BITFTP@PUCC
with the body of the message containing the single word HELP.  This
should get you more information, and give you access to any archive
site on the Internet.  Due to excessive loads, this service has been
restricted to BITNET and EARN sites only.  UUCP sites need not apply.

                           -=-

In response to Princeton closing its service to non-BITNET sites,
Digital has made an FTPmail service available.  Send mail to
FTPmail@decwrl.dec.com with the body of the message containing
the word 'help'.  Another site offering this service in Australia
can be reached at the address FTPmail@cs.uow.edu.au.

                           -=-

You may also retrieve files from the SIMTEL-20 and the INFO-MAC
archives by using one of the many mail servers which maintain
a shadow archive of these sites.  Send the following message to one
of the listserv sites.

help

See the IBMPC and Macintosh articles for a complete list of servers.
From: mechalas@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (John Mechalas)
Newsgroups: comp.virus
Subject: Re: VIRSCAN detects Yankee-Doodle 2885 (PC)
Date: 4 Oct 92 00:40:08 GMT

chess@watson.ibm.com (David M. Chess) writes:
>> From:    mechalas@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (John Mechalas)
>
>Sorry for the delay in responding!  I was out last week on vacation...
>
>>    1) Does VIRSCAN have a tendancy to cause a false positive
>>       for Yankee Doodle?  I think we really do have a virus, but
>>       I'd like to check this option anyway.
>
>No!  We know of no 2885 false positives at all, so if you've gotten
>reports in multiple files, it's almost certainly a real infection.
>(If you'd like to uuencode and send me an infected file, I'd be glad
>to verify the exact identity.)

No need to.  I believe you.  :) The reason I originally asked was
because it was always teh same three files that registered the
infection.  Since then, it has struck again on another PC, and this
time a new file was infected, so I would agree with you in that we
have real viruses. :) Thankx for the info.

- -- 
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From: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Vesselin Bontchev)
Newsgroups: comp.virus
Subject: Re: Help with Soned A virus (PC)
Date: 23 Sep 92 07:30:55 GMT

MANKOFF@twu.edu writes:

> The machines will boot from the A drive and access everything on the C
> drive just fine from that point on.  Now the real tricky part.  I ran
> F-PROT on the machines and all three came up with Michelangelo
> viruses.  It said that it removed them.  Reboot and same problem.  So
> I rebooted again from A and ran F-PROT and this time it says infected
> with Stoned-A and a variant of Stoned.  But then it says removed.  As
> soon as I run F-PROT again, it continues to say Stoned variant is in
> boot sector.  No matter how many times I run the program, Stoned is
> always there.  And it still gives the same problem on booting from the
> C drive.

It is well known that a disk infected by both Stoned and Michelangelo
becomes unbootable. The reason is that the original MBR is lost. For
the same reason, it is not possible to "disinfect" the MBR - there is
just no original MBR to restore. The only solution is to put a new,
clean MBR.

In short: boot from a write-protected non-infected system DOS 5.0
diskette. It is important that the version number is 5.0. It doesn't
matter what is the DOS version on your hard disk. Then run the program
FDISK with option /MBR. This will create a new MBR on your hard disk,
without modifying the partition table data.

Don't forget that most of your floppy disks are probably infected too.
You'll have to check every single one (yeah, including the data
diskettes), or you risk the infection to re-occur.

> Now getting frustrated, I decided to just format the hard drive and be
> done with it.  But low and behold, after installing the system files,
> same problem on boot up and after running F-Prot, same Stoned variant
> in boot sector.

Formatting is not necessary at all, and if not done properly, it will
remove everything but the virus. What do you mean by "format the hard
drive"? Just run the FORMAT command? It doesn't touch the MBR and
therefore leaves the virus. Or do you mean a low-level format? Then
you have probably booted from an infected diskette and the virus has
re-infected your disk (now you see why checking all diskettes is
important).

Regards,
Vesselin
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Tel.:+49-40-54715-224, Fax: +49-40-54715-226      Fachbereich Informatik - AGN
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e-mail: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de    D-2000 Hamburg 54, Germany
From: frisk@complex.is (Fridrik Skulason)
Newsgroups: comp.virus
Subject: Disinfection (Was: Re: more network security)
Date: 3 Oct 92 10:18:09 GMT

Vesselin Bontchev writes:

>As a conclusion, it is a bad idea to rely on virus disinfectors.
>Just delete the infected programs and replace them with clean
>backup copies.

Well, that is the "best" solution from many points of view - but there are
two practical problems:

   1) Many (most ?) users don't keep decent backups.

   2) It takes a lot less time and effort to run a disinfector than to
      restore all files from a backup.

- -frisk
From: A.APPLEYARD@fs1.mt.umist.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.virus
Subject: Computer virus used for attempted blackmail: episode 2
Date: 3 Oct 92 11:39:19 GMT

>From UK newspaper "Daily Telegraph", Fri. 2 Oct 1992 p2:-
(Hereinafter, '#n' = 'n pounds UK')
<Computer blackmail lecturer fined #500>
  A computer specialist who threatened to put a virus in a program of
a client company in an argument over a phone bill was fined #500 and
ordered to pay #500 costs yesterday. A jury at Newcastle upon Type
Crown Court took more than siz hours to reach a 10-2 majority verdict
in the case of Dr.Roy Booth, who had denied blackmail. The computer
studies lecturer from Fieldhouse Road, Gateshead, Tyne and Wear [in NE
England], said after the hearing that his job at Newcestle University
was now in jeopardy. Dr.Booth had threatened to insert a virus into a
computer game of Imec, a firm for which he had worked, when it refused
to pay a #400 telephone bill he ran up while on a one week stay in
America. Instead it was deducted from his fee. The lecturer said he
had expected to be paid #900. The firm agreed to pay him #450 which,
with the telephone bill deducted, left him with just #50. He said he
had threatened to insert a computer virus in an attempt to "shake up"
the company and encourage it to pay him in full. He had no intention
of damaging to the program. Judge Michael Cartlidge, sentencing him
accepted that the lecturer was only trying to get back money which he
felt was due to him. But, he added: "You employed illegal methods to
do it and you should be thoroughly ashamed of what you did."
From: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Vesselin Bontchev)
Newsgroups: comp.virus
Subject: Re: Viruses and OS/2 (OS/2)
Date: 23 Sep 92 08:42:57 GMT

btf57346@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu (Byron Thomas Faber) writes:

> I'm currently using os/2 with no virus protection because I know of

This is not very wise, IMHO...

> nothing that would work correctly with os/2 (for protection methods).

IBM's user-programmable scanner VIRSCAN works both under DOS and
OS/2. S & S International has a version of Dr. Solomon's Anti-Virus
ToolKit for OS/2. Unfortunately, both products are commercial.

> I don't believe that alot of viruses (current) will run under os/2.

True, but some of them will. Recall that OS/2 2.0 claims to be able to
run any DOS or Windows programs. Therefore, it should be able to run
at least some viruses. In general, MBR infectors can infect any IBM PC
compatible computer, even if it runs OS/2. Indeed, they are unable to
spread after OS/2 has booted, but if the virus is Michelangelo and the
date is March 6, guess what happens... Furthermore, most file
infectors that do not use dirty tricks will happily infect in the DOS
sessions. The "nice" thing is that since all DOS sessions use one copy
of the command interpreter, if a virus succeeds to infect it, this
means that it will infect all DOS sessions. So, you'd better get some
protection...

> Does anybody know anything about os/2 and viruses who can 
> tell me if I'm right or wrong?

Currently there are no OS/2-specific viruses (although they can be
easily written). A computer which runs OS/2 is more virus-resistant
than a DOS-only box. (The same holds for computers that run Windows, 
BTW.) Most viruses that infect EXE files will fail to infect correctly 
the OS/2 executables (they will damage the files). However,
virus-resistant does not mean virus-proof. You should use some
protection. Since OS/2 provides memory protection, writing a good
protecting program for it should be easier. Therefore, scanners
definitively should not become the main line of defense under OS/2...
Does anybody know whether the ASP Integrity Toolkit has an OS/2
version?

Regards,
Vesselin
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Tel.:+49-40-54715-224, Fax: +49-40-54715-226      Fachbereich Informatik - AGN
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e-mail: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de    D-2000 Hamburg 54, Germany
From: mramey@milton.u.washington.edu (Mike Ramey)
Newsgroups: comp.virus
Subject: F-PROT 2.05a -- available yet ??? (PC)
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:20:06 GMT

A message from Fridrik Skulason dated 18 Sep 92 announced his intention to
"upload 2.05a right after this weekend".  Have I missed it?  Is it
available?  If so, where?  Thanks, -Mike Ramey, UW, Seattle.
- -- 
- -Mike Ramey, 685-0940, U W Civil Eng, FX-10, 171 Wilcox, Seattle WA 98195.