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From: lagache@violet.berkeley.edu (Edouard Lagache;4644 Tolman;24206;6310183;JT95)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: U/W Computer like devices
Date: 12 Jan 1993 00:26:34 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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Following up on the "Game Boy" comments, I believe it is Fujitsu that
has made an underwater word processing system, that was good to something
reasonsable like 60 feet.  I can dig up the article if folks are interested.

However gang,. . . . do you *really* want to take your computer toys (and
associated *WORK*) with you diving!?!?!

Edouard Lagache
lagache@violet.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: mbohl@uceng.uc.edu (Michael Bohl)
Subject: LIQUID BREATHING
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Distribution: ALL
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 12:56:33 GMT

Could whoever posted the LIQUID BREATHING post originally, please
re-post it, the server here at Univ. of Cinti. was down for a bit
and I did not get a chance to read it.  Thank-you in advance!
						Mike

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From: gd@gehenna.sw.stratus.com (Greg Dawe)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: FEMALE DIVE BUDDY WANTED, BOSTON
Date: 7 Jan 1993 19:00:42 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: gehenna.sw.stratus.com

In article <1458600007@igc.apc.org> Jordan Weinstein <jweinstein@igc.apc.org> writes:
>
>I am the writer of the WANTED posting.  Four people have so far re-
>sponded:   three men and one married woman.  It is interesting that the
>three men attacked the posting, while the woman (who responded privately
>via email) sent her support for my openness and honesty and directness.
>It raises some interesting questions.  Why are men threatened by this
>kind of posting and women not?  Are male divers so invested in the
>machismo of diving that an expression of emotional need (for love) is
>taken as a sign of weakness that must be attacked?  To my mind, using
>rec.scuba to find a dive buddy/partner is as valid as using it to find
>a dive computer...both are connected to scuba, and no one, to my mind,
>has laid down any rules for the use of this conference.  Or perhaps
>some of you think this is a club for boys only?  
>
Jordan, you raise an interesting point.  I'm not familiar with the charter
of rec.scuba, but IMHO, it's a forum for the exchange of information, ideas,
etc.  Finding a dive buddy is best done by contacting any one of several
Boston-area dive clubs: Salem Frogmen, Metrowest Dive Club, South Shore
Neptunes, etc.  If your posting becomes the rule, rather than the exception
I could envision getting 40 or 50 postings a day, most of which would not
be of interest to me, or most subscribers.  Good luck.

FYI: The Metrowest Dive club meets every 2cnd and 4th Tuesday of the month
     at the Natick Inn, on Speen Street, Natick.
-- 
Greg Dawe                        | Disclaimer: I don't speak for my employer,
Voice : (508)-490-6666           |             nor they for me...
e-mail: Greg_Dawe@vos.stratus.com|
From: jbreeden@netcom.com (John Breeden)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: LIVE ABOARD RECOMMENDATIONS WANTED
Keywords: Live aboards
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:57:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1993Jan12.205737.13159
Organization: Netcom - Somewhere in the S.F. Bay Area

>Just back from Kona - and the new Kona Aggressor II. 

BTW: The "old" Kona Aggressor is now the Palau Aggressor (more coral AND
fish than the east coast ! :-)

-- 

 John Robert Breeden, Hughes Lan Systems
          jbreeden@kailua.hls.com, johnb@hls.com, jbreeden@netcom.com

 ------------------- cut here and you'll break your monitor -------------------

      "The nice thing about standards is that you have so many to choose 
      from. If you don't like any of them, you just wait for next year's 
      model."
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: archer.sbd-e@rx.xerox.com (Stephen Archer)
Subject: Re: Jacques Cousteau's dive gear??
Reply-To: archer.sbd-erx.xerox.com
Organization: Rank Xerox Ltd.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:33:40 GMT


well this is going back a couple of years, but I had a poster, in fact it might have been a calender now I come to think of it, anyway the main picture was of this silver clad diver using an electric scooter.

On the back they briefly described the system.
The 'cylinder' that you see is actually a fibreglass shell. Beneath that were four small, ~5L, cylinders (dont know exactly what size or pressure).
The helmet was just a commerical helmet painted silver to match the rest. The helmet was also fitted with a load of electronics to allow diver to diver/surface communication.
The double hose reg allowed the bubbles to be expelled away from the divers face hence not interfering with photograghy.

I dont think they planned to seriously market any of this it looked good and was there to promote the general range of Couteau diver equipment.


Stephen
From: jacke@meaddata.com (Jack Eddington)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Scuba Fair & Swap Meet Notice, South of Dayton, OH
Date: 4 Jan 1993 17:08:46 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Distribution: oh
NNTP-Posting-Host: psm01.meaddata.com

A Scuba Fair and Swap Meet is being set up for Sunday, February 28, 1993 at 
the Washington Township Rec Center (just south of Dayton, OH). It will run 
from 9am to 3pm. Note that this is the day after the Ohio Diving Council 
banquet (Saturday night). Numerous organizations, clubs, businesses, etc. have
been invited. A detailed list of participants and what services/seminars/etc
will be at the Fair will be available about the first week in February. It
is expected that a good variety of equipment, both new and used, will be
available for sale.

The Rec Center is on State Route 725, a few miles east of 675. It is about an
hour north of Cincinatti via 75 and an hour and a half from Columbus via 70
and 75 and just south of Dayton.

I'm just giving this info as a 'heads up'. When I know more in early February,
I'll post it.

-- 
Jack Eddington -- jacke@meaddata.com  -- uunet!meaddata!jacke
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: jeffs@.SanDiego.NCR.COM ()
Subject: Re: ?? Bottom Scratchers Dive club ??
Reply-To: jeffs@spike.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Jeff Schwartz)
Organization: San Diego Porting Center
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 01:34:12 GMT

San Diego, CA had/has a Bottom Scratchers club.  If I'm not mistaken, they are
supposedly the first SCUBA club in the US.  For info, try contacting Ocean
Enterprises 619-585-6054 or Point Loma Sport Fishing (don't know the number,
sorry).

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From: walz@elde1.epfl.ch
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: M values and Buehlmann a and b parameters
Date: 12 Jan 93 09:35:56 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne


Hi,

Could anybody tell me what is the relation between the Buehlmann a and b
parameters and M values ?  The meaning of a and b is the following:

  tolerated pressure = (compartment N2 pressure - a) * b

M.Walz

Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: mayne@pipe.cs.fsu.edu (William Mayne)
Subject: Re: Mixed gas algorithms
Reply-To: mayne@cs.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University Computer Science Department
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 22:37:30 GMT

In article <C0o6Ho.yE@sdf.lonestar.org> strohm@sdf.lonestar.org (John R. Strohm) writes:
>I have one question about the various mixed-gas decompression table programs
>that I see discussed here.
>
>How do y'all plan to validate/sanity-check your computed results BEFORE you
>test them on your own personal bodies?

I check the results against Hamilton's tables for similar profiles and gas
mixes. If the program matches the tables pretty well for a range of sample
profiles I'll have some confidence in it for other profiles. I'll also
check my program against DCAP, one of the commercial programs for this
purpose. I've also just heard from two diving buddies who took the trimix
course from Sheck Exley that he is selling a program to his students for
around $100 and they are buying it, so I'll also compare against that.
So far a straight forward implementation of Buhlmann's model (ZHL-12 and
ZHL-16 A and B) is giving me significantly shorter decompression times
than the tables, even adding 5% to the partial pressures of inert
gases as a safety factor. I will not be diving home grown tables until
I get a better fit with established tables.

>In other words, I plan to stick to compressed air and reasonably shallow water
>for the foreseeable future.

A very sensible approach. But I'm a techie with Oztotl, the god of caves
in my soul. We each must make our choices in the trade offs between
adventure and safety. If I were totally averse to risk I wouldn't be
diving at all.

Bill Mayne
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: tjfeue@bb1t.monsanto.com
Subject: Re: Decompression "games"
Organization: Monsanto Company, St. Louis, MO
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:47:25 GMT

How about dumping your buddies weight belt at the 30 foot stop?  ;-(

Seriously, I wish that they had James Mitchner novels on waterproof
paper!

One thing that we do is to come up with funny hand signals and see
if the other divers can figure out what you mean.

Ted Feuerbach - Scientific Systems Consultant
Disclaimer:     Monsanto didn't say this, I did!
Stupid Quote:   Money is simply alcohol in a 
                more easily transportable form.
                                            - Me

Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: synek@Cadence.COM (Kamil Synek)
Subject: Re: Decompression "games"
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:01:24 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.095516.4703@spectrum.xerox.com> hdavies@rx.xerox.com writes:
>In article 26028@umr.edu, tstead@cs.umr.edu (Tim Steadham) writes:
>>I tried checkers a few times, albeit fun, but tipping the board over and
>>having the pieces land in the silt can be quite bothersome :*)
>
>My father used to be a Royal Navy clearance diver (many decades ago) and he tells stories about playing chess whilst waiting out deco stops. They used to play in their heads over the intercom with the surface though, an option not really open to us. I suppose you could write moves on a slate, as long as you could hold the board in your head.

How about magnetic chess or checkers?  Might work.  It would screw up your
compass though, so don't try to do any navigation during your deco stop :)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: Duane Clark <duane@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: Dives in Gulf of Mexico?
X-Xxdate: Wed, 6 Jan 93 01:08:38 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Labs
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:15:55 GMT

In article <85H.02Up30Hn01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> Doreen Singewald,
dmh40@papaya.eng.amdahl.com writes:
>I didn't receive any responses a couple of weeks ago when I first
>posted, so I thought I'd give it another shot...
> 
>Can anyone provide information about diving in the Gulf of Mexico?
>We are planning a trip to New Orleans in mid-April and are wondering
>if it would be worth the effort to haul our equipment along. How is
>the visibility? What's there to see? Are there dive shops you can
>recommend? Would a boat dive be significantly better than a shore
>entry? Any recommended outfits? Shore entry points? Any and all in-
>formation will be appreciated.
> 
>Thanks!

Okay, I'll give you some info.  Back when I lived in Texas, I dove in the
Gulf fairly regularly. Shore diving is a waste of time - IMO. This is
because the bottom is mud, due to the outflow from the Mississippi.
However, great diving is had by taking boats out to the oil rigs. Because
these are the only real structures out there, they tend to be swarming
with resident fish. Also, I regularly saw large schools of fish swimming
through, including large schools of barracuda (they look impressive but
are harmless - uhh, don't wave anything shiny).

I can't give any info about diving out of New Orleans, but I'm sure the
situation is similar. I typically got on a boat that went 40-50 miles
offshore, but it was doing 20 knots so it didn't take too long. This
allowed us to get in deep (150-300 feet), clear water. The visibility can
vary quite a lot. In July and August I've seen 200+ feet. You won't
likely get this good in April.  Check whether food or air will be
supplied.  The boats I went on supplied neither.

Of course, in this deep water you don't go to the bottom.  Instead, you
hang out amongst the legs and cross members.  The platforms are big, and
there is plenty to see. Typically, I made my first dive among a lower set
of cross braces, 90-110 feet, then a second dive amongst  braces at 40-50
feet. The really macho divers like to take their spearguns down to 170+
feet and come up with 40 pound Amberjacks.
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: jenkin@nautile.oe.fau.edu (Michael Jenkins)
Subject: Re: Decompression "games"
Organization: Advanced Marine Systems Group
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:30:29 GMT


     In article <NN87wB2w165w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>, waldo@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Todd J. Dicker) writes:
|> That's it!  Maybe we could convince Nintendo to create an underwater 
|> housing for the Game Boy!



     I've heard of some guy in the area who leaves a rubic's cube in a
bag at the deco stop.  If you already figured out how to solve the
damn thing, you could always try it at depth................
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Help with equipment
From: <IARCC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 11 Jan 1993 16:36:23 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

Hi

     I need help choosing the right type of equipment.  I would welcome some re
comendations as to a BC and a regulator that is conftable.  Also the best place
 to get good prices.  Any information would be welcome being that I know
pratically nothing about equipment.







Cesar.
From: fssmith@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Greg Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Where is my tape Dave Waller?
Date: 6 Jan 93 17:57:00 GMT
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I sent a blank tape and return postage to you many moons (months) ago
and I still have not received the episodes you promised to copy.  I 
would appreciate it if you would find the time to copy the episode of
nature on the sea of cortez and send the tape back

Greg
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: istre@ricevm1.rice.edu
Subject: Re: Dives in Gulf of Mexico?
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:10:09 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.173217.13423@infonode.ingr.com>
daryl@dman.b24a.ingr.com (Daryl Owens) writes:
>I might also suggest you check out the Lake Charles, LA and/or Houston
>areas.  My guess would be that you would have to take a boat out to
>a wreck site or even an off shore oil rig.
>
There are several dive charters based out of Houston dive shops that go
to the Flower Gardens, Stetson Bank, and various offshore oil rigs. The
boat, The M/V Fling leaves out of Freeport about 50 miles south of
Houston and goes to these sites. The trips are booked by the dive shops
and then you must contact the dive shops to find out when their trip is
going out. They usually leave on Friday evening and arrive at the site
on Saturday morning. Yes, they are weekend trips, but I do know that
there are some weekday trips as well. These trips average between $275-
$305. Here are a list of Houston-area dive shops that I know take these
trips. I suggest you call all of them to find out who is going out at
the time you desire.
 
Houston Scuba Academy       (713)721-7788
Texas Scuba                 (713)880-1287
Sea Sports Scuba            (713)688-7777
Kenlee's Scuba Center       (713)784-1173
 
As far as telling you about the diving at these sites, I can not help
you much due to the fact that I have yet to go to them. However, I am
told that it is great diving there and I do plan to go this summer.
 
I hope I was of some help. Good luck.
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: engwall@zorro.cecer.army.mil (Evan Engwall)
Subject: Diving in Barbados
Organization: US Army Corps of Engineers Construction Engineering Research Labs
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:08:36 GMT

I will be in Barbados in March for about ten days, and I'm wondering about the
opportunities for scuba and snorkeling there.  Also I would appreciate any info on
interesting places to see, good restaurants, etc.
-- 
"9 more shopping days left 'til Christmas"
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Friday, 8 Jan 1993 16:27:52 EST
From: <H59CC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject:    need help with equipment

Hi

     I'm just starting to scuba and know very little about equipment.
I need recomendations on equipment, like the best brands and whear can
I get the best prices.  I'm particularly interested in a regulator that is
conftable to the jaw. Any way any information pertaining to equipment will
be welcome.



sincerely,

Cesar Becerra
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: fortner@hal.eel.ufl.edu (Dave Fortner)
Subject: ADVICE WANTED: Abaco
Originator: fortner@hal.eng.ufl.edu
Organization: University of Florida
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 18:49:34 GMT

I am planning to take a cruise to the Abaco Islands in the Bahamas
and would like to do a dive or two while we're there. Does anyone have
any recommendations reguarding dive shops on any of the four islands?
I am particularly interested in shops that cater to the shuttle boat
schedule to/from the cruise ship. Does anyone know anything about the
dive sites there?

Dave Fortner
Fortner-D@3mail.ksc.nasa.gov
From: hargrove@nobelium.asc.slb.com (Jim Hargrove)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: AUSTRALIA diving locations
Date: 12 Jan 1993 14:52:28 GMT
Organization: Schlumberger Austin Systems Center
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: nobelium.asc.slb.com
Keywords: all, everything and anything goes ?

I just spent a marvelous week on the Spoilsport diving in the Coral Sea. The Spoilsport leaves Townsville on Tuesday (at least that is the most recent schedule) and returns the following Monday. I highly recommend it, though it is a trifle expensive.

I plan to post a more complete report on the trip Real Soon.
-- 

        -- jwh
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: help with equipment
From: <IARCC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 11 Jan 1993 16:47:47 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

Hi

     I know hardly anything about scuba equipment therefor I would welcome
some recomendation as to what to look for in a BC and what type of regulator
is most comftable to the jaw.  Also the best place to buy equipment in terms of
price.  Any information will be welcome.










cesar.
From: v5914ane@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Steve)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Scuba Equipment For Sale
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:54:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I am selling the following equipment as a package,

ScubaPro First Stage and regulator
US Divers Safe Second, 80 cu tank, Dive Light
Wenoka Dive Knife
Henderson XXL 1/4" Wetsuit and XL Weight Belt
Sea (something) 1/4" gloves
1/4" boots
2 sets of fins, and mask (in need of minor repair) and snorkel
Timex Dive Watch
DataMax Control Console  (Analog and digital displays)

All for Only $650.00 +S/H and COD

If you are interested Reply to the account.
From: pky@fmg.bt.co.uk (Pete Young)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: FEMALE DIVE BUDDY WANTED, BOSTON
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:00:32 GMT
Reply-To: pky@fmg.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom

On reflection it is now clear to me that, while Jordan Weinstein richly
deserves to be toasted to a crisp for his thinly-veiled ``wanna-bonk''
posting, rec.scuba is not an appropriate place to use as a barbeque.

I would therefore like to tender my apologies to readers of rec.scuba.

In future you may rest assured that I will conduct such attacks using
Email. Bearing that in mind, could anyone else who has anything else to
say please do so in Email to pky@fmg.bt.co.uk.  Except for Jordan
Weinsten that is, I've already had enough of him to last me a lifetime.

If anyone else is thinking of pulling a similar stunt I suggest
you go and read Emily Postnews first.

Can I suggest that we all now take the excellent advice of Gena Ram,
who writes:

>....why don't we just get back to talking about diving?

That's all I wanted to do in the first place.

Regards

Pete

-- 
  ____________________________________________________________________
  Pete Young        	  pky@fmg.bt.co.uk        Phone +44 473 227151
 "Cast your bread upon the waters and you will get back... soggy bread"  
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: adb@geek.ca.geac.com (Anthony DeBoer)
Subject: Re: Decompression "games"
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:17:15 GMT
Organization: Geac Computer Corporation

In <1993Jan6.023404.26028@umr.edu> tstead@cs.umr.edu (Tim Steadham) writes:
>...  What I mean are things to entertain you while you
>are making some of those long deco stops.  I tried checkers a few times, albeit
>fun, but tipping the board over and having the pieces land in the silt can be
>quite bothersome :*)  What have you done to pass the time and the N2 (sorry,

There are magnetic checker (and probably also chess) sets you could try. 
The board is steel and the pieces have little magnets in them.  Two
friends of mine used to play such a set underwater on those long
decompression stops, at least until they got into nitrox...  But that's
another thread.
-- 
Anthony DeBoer       <adb@geac.com | uunet!geac!adb>
 At but not speaking for Geac Canada Ltd. (Toronto)
 NAUI #D5482, Z8800 but not speaking for them, either.
From: pky@fmg.bt.co.uk (Pete Young)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: US dive club seeks UK club - please repost
Date: 5 Jan 93 13:20:55 GMT
Organization: British Telecom
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Could the person who recently posted a message from a US dive club
(possibly in the Boston area?), wanting to make contact with clubs
in the UK with a view to an exchange visit, please Email me a copy
of the message or repost it.

Humble apologies.

Pete
-- 
  ____________________________________________________________________
  Pete Young        	  pky@fmg.bt.co.uk        Phone +44 473 227151
 "Cast your bread upon the waters and you will get back... soggy bread"