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From: mfolivo@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Mark Newton-John)
Subject: Re: VHS tape speeds
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 07:58:03 GMT


You can't really compare (directly) tape lengths between PAL and
NTSC. The tape does not give equal time between systems.

A T-120 2 hour tape does not last two hours in a PAL machine. I do
not have an unopened tape that would tell me exactly what the time
would be.

Here are tape speeds according to NTSC specifications.

T-120	2hrs SP
	4 hrs LP
	6 hrs EP/SLP

T-130	2 hrs 10 min SP
	4 hrs 20 min LP
	6 hrs 30 min EP/SLP

T-160	2 hrs 40 min SP
	5 hrs 20 min LP
	8 hrs EP/SLP

T-180	3 hrs SP
	6 hrs LP
	9 hrs EP/SLP

(I omitted T-15, T-30, and other shorter tapes for brevity)

SP is Standard Play 33.35mm/s (1 5/16 ips)
LP is Long play 16.68 mm/s
EP/SLP is Extended Play, or Super Long Play 11.12 mm/s (7/16 ips)

SP and EP/SLP are the speeds designated by JVC. LP is an
"in-between" speed, never authorized by JVC, but only shows up in
Matsushita products. (Panasonic, some RCAs) Most VCRs do not record
LP, but will play it back, but without any special effects like
pause, fast (forward) or reverse scan.
 The first Sony VHS VCRs (Hitachi) will
not even play LP tapes.

For your information, T-130 and T-180 tapes are made by BASF.
T-160s can be found from Sony, BASF, and TDK.

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From: arve@hsr.no (Arve Osmundsen)
Subject: Panasonic's 5 pins ctrl.plug
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:11:14 GMT


Can anyone help me with the spec. for the Panasonic 5 pins
edit plug. 

Is there a 5 pins <-> seriell/parallell cabel?

I would like to controll my Panasonic FS88 from my
Amiga computer using the Video Director program.


With regards
Arve Osmundsen

E-mail: arve@hsr.no
From: mce5921@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Martin Emde)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Time/Date Stamp on Sony TR-71
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:23:59 GMT
Organization: Boeing

Do any of you Sony TR-71 owners know if it is possible to turn off
the time/date stamp on this camera such that it does not appear
during playback? (It seems to automatically disable time/date stamp
when recording from an external source but not when "filming").

Any insight is appreciated.

-Martin
.

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From: lien@eecs.nwu.edu (Shu-Ching Lien)
Subject: Help -- info. regarding Laser KaraOKE
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 06:48:52 GMT

Hello there,
    Recently there are some articles discussing CLD player with
KaraOKE feature. I didn't save them and they are gone now on my node.
But my friend just asked me a question:
	Which one is the best buy:
		(1) a CLD player with KaraOKE feature, 
		(2) a regular CLD player + a sound mixer for KaraOKE
I recall that those articles can answer the question. Could someone
out there send me one copy?
Or any suggestion? (Model? Price? Features?)
Thanks in advance.

Shu-Ching 
lien@eecs.nwu.edu
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From: beaker@dent.uchicago.edu (Mike Aguilar)
Subject: Aplogies (was: Looking for info about an old "Philco"...)
Keywords: apologies, pardon, etc
Organization: Dept. of Mathematics, U. of Chicago
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:59:58 GMT


A thousand apologies for the multiple postings of the same
message.  The Pnews i was using was misbehaving and as a result
i ended up posting the same message several times.  Sorry, sorry,
sorry!  
-mike
From: adammot@ltrnativ.UUCP (Adam Mottershead)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: One LNB and Two Receivers?
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:53:23 GMT
Reply-To: adammot@ltrnativ.UUCP (Adam Mottershead)
Organization: The All Ter Nah Tive Un Der Groend
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I asked this question earlier, but I posed it in a confusing way so I will
rephrase it in the hopes I will get a response.

How can I use two block receivers from a single LNB?  I realize that one
receiver will have polarity control and the other will not, but what do I
need to split the signal, keep the LNB powered, but not damage any
equipment?

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From: rwb@alexander.VI.RI.CMU.EDU (Robert Berger)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: need to split baseband!!!
Date: 2 Sep 92 01:59:19 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

> 
> You should be able to use 75ohm splitters to split baseband and maintain
> correct impedance.
> 

No. Unlike RF inputs, baseband video inputs expect specific voltage 
levels.

I believe its 1V from sync to white. In any case, there is no way to
correctly split baseband video without using an active distribution amp.
From: rwb@alexander.VI.RI.CMU.EDU (Robert Berger)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Another reason networks should be ITC
Date: 2 Sep 92 01:52:58 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon


Networks should provide direct feeds to home dish owners because
of bozo affiliates like KDKA, which showed the first half of
the "Jack the Ripper" miniseries Sunday, and then preempted the
second half with a baseball game. If I didn't have a dish at work
I would be real upset.

They probably are showing it sometime during the week, but since
Pittsburgh has no newspapers, I would have no way of knowing in advance...
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:57:40 -0400
From:         Elmer Beachley <etb@CS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: need SHARP TV source
X-To:         HOMESAT@VM1.NoDak.EDU

Let me comment further on the costs of the Sharp LCD projectors, and also
the image.  First, the original model XV-100 was discontinued about August 1991
and replaced with a more compact unit (sorry, forgot the numbers).  Anyway,
last November, a local pro-video dealer was selling the XV-100 for $1000,
brand new, "as many as you want".  So at least you have another price point.

Now, admittedly the resolution of these units is relatively low, and if you
stand right next to the screen (or even sit relatively close) you can surely
see the pixels.  Also, there are quite noticeable artifacts on slowly
scrolling some small text (credits obviously can do this).

BUT, this thing makes a big (100" diagonal) bright picture and if you have
a moderately large room, you can fill one entire wall with video and sit
back far enough (15-18 feet or so) so you don't notice the lack of
resolution.  If you've got the right room, this does not look bad.

One other negative, tho, is this thing is NOISY, about like a slide
projector (which if you think about it, that's pretty much what it is.)
This may bother some people also.

Elmer Beachley etb@cs.pitt.edu
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Subject: New Audio Service on G6/17 @7.5
From: flash@lopez.marquette.MI.US (Gary Bourgois,Hamshack)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 00:17:30 EDT
Organization: Great White North/UPLink

WNN, a new news and information channel is heard on G6, transponder 17 at 7.5
audio.  The service provides primarily commentary type programming, and is
commercially sponsored.  They say that their schedule is in Satellite Orbit
Magazine.  

While the material is as dry as dust, it IS another free audio service.

Check it out.

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From: kd282s328@sycom.mi.org (Kristine Duffy)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: need to split baseband!!!
Distribution: world
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Date: 1 Sep 92 23:34:32 EST
Organization: Michigan Information eXchange

Phil, Using "Y-Adaptors" is not the correct way to split baseband
video. I'm suprised that it worked at all. Video is 75 ohm and is
terminated at the end of each run to prevent standing waves (SWR).
The Proper way is to build/buy an Active (electronic, not transformer)
Dist. Amplifier to give you mutiple feeds from one. You can build your
own using LM 733's or other Video Amp IC's or Radio Shack Sells one that
uses transistors. The Radio Shack is not the best bandwith but it sure
beats Y-Cables.

If you want to build your own I might have an old plan around here
somewhere.............Will have to look......

<><><> Kris <><><>

Kristine Duffy  kd282s382@syscom.MI.ORG
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:51:43 EDT
From:         "Howard F Speight,jr" <ACHS@ECUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Free Disney Channel 27th-31st
              31 Aug 1992 17:40:06 GMT from <hoffman@CS.PITT.EDU>

I watched using VC II + and no subscription.
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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1992 19:26:59 EDT
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: Beginner Needs Help
X-To:         HOMESAT@VM1.NoDak.EDU

>I live on the second floor of a two family house, and am curious if there
>is an inexpensive way to hook up a small antenna or dish outside my
>window.  I have a ledge on the east side of the house which is stable,
>and I do not think the owner of the house would have a problem with it.

You need a clear shot to the SOUTH

>I would like to get some of the stations my cable system (worthless!) is
>unable to hook up.  Things such as the SciFi Channel, BBC, SABC and most
>other real channels not available in my area (Hudson County, New Jersey).

These that you mention are actually to the south west.

A side mounted dish is possible, but the size should be at least 6 feet.
Though I have heard reports that G5 (which has the sci fi channel) can be
received viewably with a 4 foot dish using a 25 degree LNB)

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From: jabussey@ualr.edu (Hip Hop child of the 90's)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: what happened to...
Date: 4 Sep 92 08:39:22 GMT
Organization: University of Arkansas at Little Rock

Could someone please tell me if BET is still in the clear? I cant seem to
find it anywhere. If it is still in the clear, please tell me what
sat and transponder.


thanks,

Jacque Bussey
From: hughes@gary.enet.dec.com (Gary Hughes - VMS Development)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re:      Sci Fi Location
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:31:38 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <21AUG92.16729196.0008.MUSIC@FERRIS>,         John Hansen <YB68@FERRIS.BITNET> writes...
>Does anyone on this list know the location of the
>science fiction channel?  When will they begin
>broadcasting? This may have been mentioned before
>but I am new to this list.  Thanks for your help.

The following info was posted recently, enjoy.
==============================================================================
From: oester@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Bob Oesterlin)
Subject: Sci-Fi Channel tentative schedule

Posted to rec.arts.startrek.info:

The Following is a tentative schedule for the new SCI-FI CHANNEL
which is slated to go on the air September 24th 1992. I got this
message off of FidoNet and thus I left the original author and
his quoted source intact.


Message #1928 "Home Satellite" (Read: 1)
Date: 04 Aug 92  21:29:00
From: Dean Adams
  To: All
Subj: SFC Schedule

SFC checklist-
 Satellite address: Galaxy 5/04
 Test broadcasting: August 10-
 Programming start: September 24 
<<The following information is from BROADCASTING magazine: 7/20/92>> 
Sci-Fi Channel Unveils Schedule For September Debut
Startup is Sept 24, 8pm ET with unedited Star Wars. 
MONDAY-FRIDAY
   7am  Sci-fi cartoons, including:
          Star Trek
          Captain Scarlet
          Defenders of the Earth
          New Adventures of Flash Gordon
          Return to the Planet of the Apes
          Fantastic Voyage
          Stingray
   9am  movie
   3pm  movie
   8pm  Battlestar Galactica
   9pm  War of the Worlds
  10pm  Great Series Showcase  (starting with Fantastic Journey) 
SATURDAY
   9am  Sci-Fi Insider
        NASA Watch
  10am  Mysteries
   4pm  movie
   8pm  Original movie
  11pm  movie 
SUNDAY
   1am  movie
   8am  sci-fi cartoons
   3pm  movie
   5pm  movie
   8pm  Sci-Fi Insider
        NASA Watch
   9pm  Mysteries
  11pm  movie 
Weekdays and weekend afternoons will feature a
number of off-network series:
  Dark Shadows
  Dr. Who
  Lost In Space
  Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea
  One Step Beyond
  The Incredible Hulk 
Competing in the access time period on Sci-Fi Channel
will be the off-network series:
   Space: 1999
   Alfred Hitchcock Presents
   Alien Nation
   Buck Rogers 
Late night will feature:
  Tales from the Darkside
   Night Gallery
   Dark Shadows
   Dr. Who 
---
 * Origin: SLC-6 Western Spaceport in Simi Valley, CA (1:102/1006.4) 


Miles Lester
mlester@ducvax.auburn.edu
mlester@auducvax.bitnet
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Hmmm. I bet the USAF will be surprised to discover that SLC-6 isn't at
Vandenburg like they thought it was :-)

gary
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From:         Brenda Rion <brion@NCPS.VAK12ED.EDU>
Subject:      Re: what happened to...
              the 90's" at Sep 4, 92 8:39 am

BET is still ITC on Galaxy 5, xponder 20.
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From: hughes@gary.enet.dec.com (Gary Hughes - VMS Development)
Subject: Re: Why Are Only Some Feeds Scrambled
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:04:59 GMT


In article <p7an4kj@lynx.unm.edu>, roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers) writes...
>As for identical feeds on NBC, CBS ... There are no identical
>feeds on NBC.  They are just time zone feeds (Eastern, Mountain,
>Pacific).  CBS has duplicate feeds of east and west on T2 with
>a re-duplication of one of each on T1.  CBS must also have this
>same policy of having an affiliate get their signal from a transponder
>that CBS assigns them.  If that weren't true, then CBS would need
>just two feeds (Eastern and Pacific).

When you see multiple network feeds carrying the same programming (at the same
time) you will usually find that the ads are different. Some networks offer
regional spots in addition to national spots and the different feeds are used
to carry the different ad mix.

gary
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 10:18:50 -0700
From:         Bob Wier <rrw@ELDEN.CSE.NAU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: VideoCipher II Extra Functions.
X-To:         HOMESAT@VM1.NoDak.EDU

 I asked this question about a year ago (has anyone EVER received a message
 via TEXT) and a FEW people said they had received advisories from Netlink
 when the Denver 5 moved from F1 to F4 (was it?). On the other hand, I did
 not.

 I DID recieve my first (EVER) text message from SHOWTIME about a number
 to call regarding my VCII to VCII+ upgrade.  Interestingly enough, it
 didn't go away once I read it, and I couldn't figure out a way to
 "erase" it.  I'd be interested to know if the sender can delete it.
 If the system was a "no delete" type of set up, I could see why
 perhaps programmers would hesitate to send stuff (although that would
 be hard to believe).

 Incidentally, I finally got my upgrade (too about 4 months start to
 finish).  It did turn out to be a RS module, but not any case color
 I'd seen before - it's a very dark blue (almost black).  My IRD is a
 Houston Tracker 8 (not 8+) and they DID NOT send a new back plate.
 The installer supposedly is supposed to DRILL A HOLE in the back for
 the telephone connector (talk about high tech).  This looks like a cop
 out to me - I wonder how many HT8's there are out there? Or did GI
 require the Manufacturer to stand part (or all) of the expense to provice
 new back panels?  Interestingly enough, SOME of the HT series were listed
 as having new panels, but not the 8 (sigh).  I didn't bother to call a
 guy to come out and install mine, just did it myself. One thing they
 are VERY insistant about is to REMOVE POWER when de-installing/installing
 the module. On some IRD's this means you have to pull the plug from the
 wall - pushing the OFF switch won't do it.

 They did send a nice LONG telephone extension cord.  Useless for me
 though, since I've never seen anything I wanted to subscribe to via
 PPV (oh yeah, my unit is the MOM board also).  This board has very few
 IC's on it compared to my old 0188 unit, and a MUCH larger battery - guess
 maybe they learned their lesson on that...

 I got the old unit turned off and the new one turned on without too much
 trouble.  However, I have noted on the Denver 5 that the station ID
 will pop up from time to time in the middle of the screen (like you had
 pressed "view"). It's only happend a couple of times though.  Incidentally
 does anyone know why KWGN can't be bothered to put up program information?
 They always have TEST PROGRAM #26 or something.

 If anyone would like other information, drop me a note at

 rrw@naucse.cse.nau.edu


 - Bob Wier

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From: juergenb@ecs.comm.mot.com (Juergen Bartels)
Subject: TELECOM on 3 east
Organization: eng
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 06:42:19 GMT

Yesterday I found TELECOM 1 testcards on 3 degree east, apparently that sat
has been moved to this new position.

Jurgen


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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 12:57:00 EST
From:         CRISTIAN PANTEA <PANT6245@SNYPLAVA.BITNET>
Subject:      NEED SATTV DEALERS INFO

Hello, can anyone send me the addresses of companies and agents and
dealers of sattv dishes and equipment.  I think some of the bigger
dealers are SATMAN and DBS but I don't know their phone numbers.
Any help would be welcomed.

                                                   Thanks
                                                  Cristian
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: pryack@mtholyoke.edu (Paul Ryack)
Subject: Re: Galaxy 1R launch fails; satellite lost
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 23:24:37 GMT


lesnyd@bb1t.monsanto.com writes:
: 
: The launch of Galaxy 1R went well for five minutes, then the rocket began
: tumbling and and the self-destruct was activated, destroying the rocket and the
: satellite. Debris fell into the ocean.
: 
: Another several million up in smoke...

Actually only $1.5 mil.
From: v087jsfu@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (DANNY)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Univision Soccer Sundays
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:32:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Does anyone know the games Univision is planning to
run?  And which ones will be live?
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From: drhodes@nyx.cs.du.edu (Doug Rhodes)
Subject: Help and FAQ
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 04:08:12 GMT


Hello, I'm kind of new at this and have many many questions but to get to
the point -where can I get the FAQ sheet that so many folks have been
talking about?? And since I am such a rookie (geez I can't believe that I
have the guts to admit that) how do I download that FAQ once someone sends
it? Some of the many questions that I have are:What is reasonable to pay
for a fairly capable home TVRO system? What equipment do I need to have to
pick up stereo FM signals and what kinds and how many stations are out
there to recieve? and Can a person reasonably expect to be able to install
this on his/her own??-I have a lot of questions and am in serious
consideration of purchasing a home sat system to replace the cable(yuk!).
Any help would be greatly appreciated-Doug Rhodes at drhodes@nyx.cs.du.edu
Thanks alot
From: phil@phunt.MV.COM (Phil Hunt)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Temporary Dish Mounting - Is it possible?
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 12:02:04 EST
Organization: Howtek, Inc.
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In article <9208262257@ltrnativ.UUCP> (rec.video.satellite), adammot@ltrnativ.UUCP (Adam Mottershead) writes:
] The header about sums up the question.
] 
] Is it possible to put a dish in the ground some how for about a month, without
] having to use concrete?  If so what guidelines should I follow.
] 
] The dish is a 10' mesh unit with a 3.5" pipe.
] 
] --

Yes, should be possible.  Dealers in my area install dishes in peoples yards
for 5 days or so for just a deposit, to hook them on satellite.  Then they sell
a permanently installed one.

So, to answer your question I think it is possible.

Phil;
From: ggg@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Gary Goodlund)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:06:42 GMT
Subject: Re: need to split baseband!!!
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite

Do you have any idea what the required signal amplitude is into the 
2nd decoder or the SG box.  It sounds like you may have split the 
signal to the point where your signal amplitude is too low to drive 
the 2nd decoder and the SG box.  If you add a video amplifier after 
the 1st "Y", the signal amplitude should be sufficient to drive the
rest of your system.  

It's just an opinion & it's probably worth about what it cost you...

Good Luck,
      Gary

 
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 06:45:00 CDT
From:         "I'D RATHER BE FISHING THAN ON THE VAX" <REDLCW@FNAL.BITNET>
Subject:      RE:Mac TV Schedule

Thanks to David Hoisve for posting the Mac TV schedule.  Although the
subject matter is very basic, it gives an informative 'commercialized'
view of the programs that can be used with the Mac.  Please continue
to post the schedules Dave.

                                                Thanks Again,

                                                The RED
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