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From: puerta@mcs-next-10.stanford.edu (Angel Puerta)
Subject: Re: Help with ATMs in Europe wanted.
Reply-To: puerta@camis.stanford.edu
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:46:04 GMT

In article <10587@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> mueller@pi.fsu.edu (Frank Mueller)  
writes:
> In article <1992Sep4.102957.29154@news.cs.brandeis.edu>,  
arevalo@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
> > 
> > Hi,
> >   I'm going to England and Spain maybe France in November.
> > I would like to know if there are lots of ATMs (on Cirrus network)
> > in these countries?
> > 
> > Bill
> 
> Theoretically, yes. But (a) you have to find one and (b) it has to be able
> to connected to some computer network to verify you PIN. According to my
> experience, this often works in Britain, sometimes in Paris but hardly ever
> in sothern France or even Spain. I strongly recommend traveler checks
> (AMEX). You can even get new ones upon loss/theft within a short time while
> your trip might be at a sudden and when your plastic card is gone.

I have a somewhat different experience. Britain is mostly OK, but try to use  
the ATMs in large cities. Middle-size and small towns are not recommended,  
especially after hours (I guess the networks are not up 24 hrs in some cases).  
Also, some banks' machines work and others don't. Trial and error.

France, forget it. Some places in Paris work but that's it.

Spain, however, has a large network of ATMs (I believe it is the largest in  
Europe). I would give the same recommendations as for Britain. Another thing:  
the card that you use and the bank that issues it MATTER. I used my AMEX and my  
Citibank Visa without problems. But with another Visa from a Credit Union  
(connected to Cirrus/Plus, etc...) I couldn't get the time of day.

Finally, machines that spit your card out at one time of the day, work  
wonderfully at other times. Try to access the ATMs during business hours.

--
Angel Puerta
puerta@camis.stanford.edu
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From: u663@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Patrick C. Deschenes)
Subject: St Maarten/St-Martin
Organization: University of New Brunswick
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 22:05:19 GMT

i
My wife and I are planning a trip to the Island; therefore, we would appreciate
any information (ie: highlights, must sees and do's, good restaurants etc.)      that would make our trip a sure pleasure.

Patrick C. Deschenes   U663@UNB.CA
                       (University of New Brunswick, Fire Science Centre,
                       Canada)

There is no genius without a little madness. -Seneca.
Xref: sparky rec.travel:13086 soc.culture.usa:7208
From: spk@uk.ac.aber (Stephen Kingston)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Loud irritating obtrusive American tourists.
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:36:30 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept., University of Wales at Aberystwyth.

rkimm@ameris.ameritech.com (Robert L. Kimmel) wrote:
> 
> Although I have no statistics to back me up here, I would guess that the per
> capita international travel record belongs to some very small country, such as
> the Vatican or Monaco (maybe Singapore?).
> 
> BK
> rkimm@ameris.center.il.ameritech.com

Yes, I did consider Luxembourg and similar countries after I wrote my 
article. However, I heard on a news program that the British were the 
most travelled nation. Of course the source might be totally inaccurate,
but I suspect what actually happened is that they took some selective 
measure of what constitutes foreign travel.

I am not able to check what the measure was, but it might be based on 
the number of air flights taken (abroad) per capita, or possibly the 
number of countries visited. Then again it might be the distance travelled
per capita.

What we really need is someone who has some actual figures for all this.
I agree that it is more likely that people in small European countries 
have travelled abroad then those within the larger ones. Especially when
the larger ones are islands.

I was only really replying to the assertion that Americans travel more
then any other nation. I suspect that they actually are one of the 
lesser travelled nations, because their own country is so huge and 
diverse.

A huge proportion of Britons travel to Spain, Greece and other southern
European destinations each year in order to sit on a warm beach and get
themselves burned to a crisp. It seems to me that they then spend the nights 
partying and getting drunk.

In the States, those in the densely populated north east need only travel 
to florida to do the same (although they seem to be a little more wary
of skin cancer then the average Brit).

Regards,
  Stephen

-- 
Gweleis i rac neb nym gweles pop annwyl. ef diwyl yneges. Gweleis i pasc.
(I saw the one above all men,  he saw me;  he, the beloved of his people,
who fulfills his mission. I saw Easter.) "Yspeil Taliesin" ---Taliesin---
spk@uk.ac.aber --- spk%uk.ac.aber@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk --- Stephen Kingston
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From: a2824ag@sunmanager.LRZ-Muenchen.DE (Riaan de Jager)
Subject: Re: German race riots
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: lrz
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 11:14:18 GMT

frank2@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za (FRANK D N) writes:

>In article <92244.094001RFLOOD@ESOC.BITNET> <RFLOOD@ESOC.BITNET> writes:

>>Visitors to Germany should be aware that demonstrations against 'auslaenders'
>>(foreigners) are taking place in several cities. The problem is prevelent in
>>the former East Germany, with homes for asylum seekers being set ablaze,
>>street demos, etc., but fringe activities such as shooting at such homes isalso
>>taking place in the former West Germany. The cause of the unrest is Germany's
>                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>very liberal asylum law, defined in the Constitution, coupled with a high
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>level of unemploylment in the indigenous  population ....
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>This is not the cause, but a catalyst. 

>The cause is racism.

FACT.
>--
>David Frank       <frank2@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za>
>University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg
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From: dave@bnr.ca (Dave McComb)
Subject: Need info on Myrtle Beach, SC 
Reply-To: dave@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR Inc. -- RTP, NC
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:11:27 GMT

I will be visiting Myrtle Beach, SC, October 8-10 and was wondering if
anyone had any advice on places to stay(preferably on the ocean, but not
a necessity if the cost is right.), places to eat, places to see, places to
avoid, etc.  Also, at this time of the year is it still warm enough to
swim in the ocean?  

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 11:09:47 -0400 
From: "Louise B. McFeaters" <lm00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Need India Travel agent

     I am trying to find the address of Hann Overland Travel for a trip
to India. Went with them on my last trip there and have found they have
moved from their old address of Vauxhall Bridge Rd, London. If you have
any information on their present wherabouts, please respond. Thanks.
 
Louise

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From: mtume@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu (Annette Bernhardt)
Subject: qx: best current malaria pills?
Organization: U of Chicago, SSPPCC
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 22:59:11 GMT

A friend and I are heading off on a big trip to south and central america: 
we were wondering which malaria pills are now in use, last time we
used them was around 5 years ago.
Also, we heard ecuador requires yellow fever immunization and suggests
cholera immunization -- do they check at the airport that you've had
these shots?  

thanks
annette
  ( mtume@sam.spc.uchicago.edu )


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From: rajiv@ultra.com (Rajiv Dhingra)
Subject: Backpacking in Thailand 
Reply-To: rajiv@ultra.com (Rajiv Dhingra)
Organization: Ultra Network Technologies
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 21:09:50 GMT

I am planning to spend 3-4 weeks backpacking in Thailand.  I intend
to land in Bangkok, spend a couple of days there and then head out
to smaller and more remote places.  

If anyone has done something like this, I would like to share your
experience.  I will be travelling alone, sometime in January.

Also, any input on getting to Laos via land would be appreciated.

Thanx,

    Rajiv Dhingra                domain: rajiv@Ultra.COM
    Ultra Network Technologies     uucp: ...!ames!ultra!rajiv
    101 Daggett Drive             phone: 408-922-0100 x137
    San Jose, CA 95134              FAX: 408-433-9287
From: klee@wsl.dec.com (Ken Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Are my KAUAI Hotels still there?
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:39:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: wsl.1992Sep14.123926
Reply-To: klee@wsl.dec.com
Organization: DEC Western Software Laboratory

|>  Help, I'm scheduled to go on my Honeymoon this upcoming weekend
|>  to Kauai.  News on the Hurricane damage is not abundant here.
|> THe two hotels I have reservations for are:

Kauai is in bad shape right now.  The airport isn't even allowing pasenger
flights in.  If any hotels are still operating, they're probably packed with
tourists from other hotels that haven't been able to leave yet.

I would recommend that you visit one of the other Hawaii islands instead.
None of the other major islands were significantly affected by the
hurricane.  I've heard that most of the airlines are allowing people to
change their Kauai tickets to other islands for little or no fee.

-- 
Ken Lee
DEC Western Software Laboratory, Palo Alto, Calif.
Internet: klee@wsl.dec.com
uucp: uunet!decwrl!klee
From: exubma@exu.ericsson.se (Bassam Madi)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Decent Hotels in New Orleans. Help
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:26:54 GMT
Reply-To: exubma@exu.ericsson.se (Bassam Madi)
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems

Hello everybody,

I will hopefully go to New Orleans this October. Can anyone
suggest some decent hotels/motels to stay at while there?
Your help is very much appreciated.

Bassam
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From: dunbar@titan.trl.OZ.AU (Michael Dunbar)
Subject: Re: Cross country trip
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 04:08:22 GMT

> miss in this tour of the West.
> 
> ------------------OS/2 v2.0 -- Why settle for anything less?--------------------
> James C. Barrett (barrett@cc.gatech.edu)|"If your so damned smart, why are
> Georgia Tech College of Computing       |  you doing what you're doing, and I'm
>                                         |  president of the U.S.?" - G.Bush
  Don't miss Moab and its surrounds in Southern Utah!
  There is great Raft-riding on the Colarado River (at your own risk)
  and the Canyonlands National Park is a beautiful place to see.
  In Moab there are various tour guides to take you on day-trips
  which are well organised and lots of fun. The town itself is
  is surrounded by rocky mountain terrain and the sunsets are something
  to believe!! I found the people very friendly and helpful and so on
  so forth..........have a good time!
                  Michael Dunbar (I've got to see Central Australia
                                                             one day)

  P.S. I just remembered Angel Arch National Park or something similar. 
                                                                  
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From: ahgrabow@apgea.army.mil (Alexander H. Grabowski <ahgrabow>)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.air
Subject: Info wanted about TAHITI
Keywords: Tahiti, South Pacific
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:40:33 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: APG-Edgewood

I will be able to spend about 4-6 weeks next spring in the 
southern Pacific. 

What I need are infos about Tahiti or Tonga or the other Island
groups down there - how to get there, where to stay, wether
to book everything at a travel agent or better be on my own 
and so on.

Please, mail me any info to
ahgrabow@crdec8.apgea.army.mil

*ANY* help would be greatly apreciated.

Alexander
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From: rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Re: Need info on Boston, Cape Cod, Newport, RI, and Providence
Date: 15 Sep 1992 16:50:11 GMT
Organization: Bolt, Beranek & Newman, Inc.
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: spcsun25.bbn.com

In article <kiran.716537725@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>, kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:

|> In Boston, try Elephant Walk.  Exquisite Cambodian/French food.

I second the recommendation for Elephant Walk.  But you'll have
trouble finding it if you look "In Boston".  It's in Union Square in
Somerville, a suburb next to Cambridge.

|> Cape Cod is a place to avoid at all costs.  Unless of course you like
|> traffic jams, crowds, silly touron attractions, and bad food.  

But what if you like windswept beaches, nice old inns, nature
preserves, and sand dunes?    It's after Labor Day now, and
most of the traffic jams and crowds are gone now.

-----
Ron Newman		rnewman@bbn.com
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From: klee@wsl.dec.com (Ken Lee)
Subject: Re: Advice needed on I-80 (San Francisco to Detroit) in winter
Reply-To: klee@wsl.dec.com
Organization: DEC Western Software Laboratory
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 19:20:58 GMT


|> What are the road conditions typically like on I-80 (and I-94 through
|> Michigan) in early January? 

In California, the road crews try to keep I-80 through the Sierra
Nevada mountains open at all times.  Make sure you have chains (and
know how to install them), as they can be required at any time.  For
the latest road conditions, call Caltrans; in San Francisco, their
number is 557-3755.

-- 
Ken Lee
DEC Western Software Laboratory, Palo Alto, Calif.
Internet: klee@wsl.dec.com
uucp: uunet!decwrl!klee
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.french
From: ivanov@osf.org (Eric Ivanov)
Subject: Re: french rail?
Organization: Open Software Foundation, Research Institute - Grenoble - France
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:18:51 GMT


I don't know if ther is a railpass in France. But the InterRail is OK.
Max age is 26 but I am not sure. An InterRail is about 1800-2000 FF and is valid
for one month.

"The Carte Jeune" gives you some advantages (price reductions in some shops)
but it is not very significant. It cost 70FF the last time I bought it. I use
it mainly to get the "Cine Carte Jeune" which is much more interesting,
especially if you are a movie fan like me. Max. age is 26 (almost sure).

The "Cine Carte Jeune" holds 5 tickets on one refillable card. Refill costs
140FF (that's 28FF/movie). This card is nominal but you can invite one person
on your card. The Cine Carte Jeune" is accepted in the Pathe-Gaumont distribution
network (or should be accepted).

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From: LMWHITE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Lois White)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: qx: best current malaria pills?
Date: 6 Sep 92 20:01:44 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <1992Sep5.225911.29847@midway.uchicago.edu>,
mtume@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu (Annette Bernhardt) says:
>
>A friend and I are heading off on a big trip to south and central america:
>we were wondering which malaria pills are now in use, last time we
>used them was around 5 years ago.
>Also, we heard ecuador requires yellow fever immunization and suggests
>cholera immunization -- do they check at the airport that you've had
>these shots?
>
Chloroquine is the currently recommended malaria pill and you need to
start taking them (one a week) one week before you enter the malaria zone.
See you doctor soon enough to get started.  If the U.S. Dept of Health
(or whatever agency handles this sort of thing) requires/recommends that
you get certain innoculations before going to a particular country, you
could be asked to show your immunization certificate when you RETURN
to the US, and some other countries might require you to be vaccinated
upon arrival.
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From: aung@syacus.acus.oz.au (Aung Thurein)
Subject: Information needed: Grand Canyon NP
Keywords: recreation
Organization: ACUS Australian Centre for Unisys Software, Sydney
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 23:07:47 GMT

Hi,

We will be visiting Disneyland in last week of October. Some of my
friends are suggesting that it is worth going th Grand Canyon National
Park as well while we are there. Could anyone give us any suggestion
on the followings?

- what kind of weather should we expect in Grand Canyon NP area 
  in late October?
- SHould we join a tour group from LA or should we drive there?
- Is 2-3 days stay in the park is enough ?
- Things we should not miss.
- Any suggestion for accomodation ?

Best regards.

Aung

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From: vijay@jessica.Stanford.EDU (vijay mehrotra)
Subject: Kenya/Egypt Summary
Reply-To: vijay@jessica.Stanford.EDU (vijay mehrotra)
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 22:11:15 GMT


===============================================================================
|| Vijay Mehrotra         L&IR Math/Stat Consultant      Stanford University ||
|| Ph.D. Student in Operations Research    email: vijay@jessica.stanford.edu || 
||---------------------------------------------------------------------------||
|| 	"Better to be broken hearted than just plain broke."                 ||
||				BRAD NEWSHAM                                 || ===============================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: duck@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Lauriston)
Subject: Paris, 11e arr.
Summary: what's Paris 11e arr. like?
Keywords: Paris
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 18:01:43 GMT


I've been offered an apartment sublet in the 11th arr., on Rue
Popincourt near Rue du Chemin Vert, a few blocks east of Blvd.
Richard Lenoir, near Voltaire metro.  I don't know that area at
all, and I've heard that it has changed radically since the last
time I was there anyway.  (The bicentenaire pumped money into
the Bastille area.)  Any comments on the neighborhood?
We'll be there from the middle of December until the middle
of January.
From: pow@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Charley Pow)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Help with hotels in Amsterdam
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:13:20 GMT
Reply-To: pow@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California

In article <PLANIUS.92Sep3164930@ips104.desy.de>, planius@ips104.desy.de (P. Lanius) writes:
>The answer is a puzzle, but since noone else responded so far it can be
>of some use, if you are able to solve it :-)
>We stayed for 2 nights in Amsterdam during weekend and we came across a
>really cheap hotel, we payed 57 guilders/night for a double room. This
>hotel was north from the end of Prinzengracht, about 5-10 min from the
>station. It was in a street parallel to the railway line, on a street
>corner. The street was the second(3.?) to the right if you follow the main
>street south from the station. Quite easy, eh?
>Oh, I forgot to mention the name of the hotel. But the only thing I remember
>is, that is was something like Camel, Caravan or Cabul.
>
Many years ago we stayed in a place called Kabul.  A nicer area is near the
museums.  There's a street called Jan Luykensstraat (or something similar).  
It has many hotels.  Unfortuneately, we couldn't get into anything we
could afford, and we didn't like the ones we could.  Hotel Acca was
recommended but full.  Hotel Museumlicht was about 100 guilders/night 
for a double, but it was spartan.  

Charley Pow
pow@lmsc.lockheed.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: planius@ips105.desy.de (P. Lanius)
Subject: Re: Cambridge
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen-Synchrotron, Hamburg, Germany.
Distribution: rec.travel
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:55:06 GMT

I've been in Cambridge for one day in 1989 and we spent all our time just
walking around in the city center. I liked Cambridge very much. The thing
I remember in particular is King's College and the students boating on
the Cam. I'm not perfectly sure, but I think there was a tiny round church
at the end of the main street, quite funny. Or was this in Oxford?

Peter
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From: ercn72@festival.ed.ac.uk (R.J.Hare)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: London Zoo
Date: 8 Sep 92 09:23:53 GMT

I heard on the Radio 4 news last night that London Zoo has now made enough
money from increased admisssion charges and donations to be able to stay open
until at least the end of this year...

Roger Hare
r.j.hare@edinburgh.ac.uk
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From: saisan@milano.berkeley.edu (Payam Saisan)
Subject: Tickets wanted: California to Michigan
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:09:48 GMT

Hi folks,

I'm looking for some cheap tickets
from anywhere in California to Detroit and back,
for between now and December. Does anyone know of
any special deals, perhaps, through credit cards 
or anything else?

Thanks in advance,

Payam

saisan@robotics.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.german