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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:01:17 -0400 
From: Cory Harper Jacques <cj14+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Always a new issue!

Hi!

I am writing with a new issue in my life. I have lost weight slowly and
am now looking healthy and feeling good. I did not set off on my eating
and exercising to specifically lose weight, but instead to take better
care of myself. Over the summer I followed a good work out plan. Right
now school has come back in session and about 5 to 10 times daily I hear
a screech accross campus or where ever of "God, you've lost weight".
Some people say "you look great, but there is also the "wow, you look
like you've lost tons of weight."  I find that people aren't really
interested, but they are saying the first thing that comes out of their
mouths. It isn't a complement to me, in fact it makes me feel
uncomfortable.

So that's one issue which is tied up in my self image that seems to sway
with the time of day. Sometimes I feel very good about what I have
accomplished and feel great and other times I worry that my weight loss
is temporary or that I don't look any different or feel any different.
Lately my moods and self image seems so unstable...as if you couldn't
tell.

So that's what's up...I do feel good about all of the changes, but I
also feel uncomfortable in the new way people are looking at me and the
way people are approaching me. Maybe weight really does keep people at a
distance - I had read that theypry before but never believed it...

Cory
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From: saitowit@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za (SAITOWITZ L S)
Subject: Milkshake
Organization: Wits Electrical Engineering (Undergrads).
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 12:51:38 GMT

Just a quicky for those who love milkshake.

Take one apple, one bannana, half a cup of skim milk and a bit of powder 
sweetner. 
Liquidize and .. enjoy.

Summer is approching here in the southern hemisphere and this makes a great
breakfast. It also leaves you a bit of starch to snack on during the day.
If you prepare a jug of this in the fridge it'll take minutes to have 
breakfast ,for those on the run. Make sure you leave for work directly or 
you'll be tempted to have more than you should!

Bye Lesley :)
From: jbyrd@chpc.utexas.edu (Jan Byrd)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Re: Twice nuked potatoes :-)
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:39:38 GMT
Organization: Center for High Performance Computing, Univ. of Texas System

In article <24458@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, dudley@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Karen Witkoski) writes:
    [deleted]
|> Then I wrap them in foil for a few more minutes.  Some parts of the
|> potato are done, but other parts are hard.  What am I doing wrong?
|> 
|> Thanks for any advice.
|> 
|> Karen

Do you have a carousel or "micro-go-round" in there that keeps the potatoes
moving while they're cooking?  Some microwaves (like Sharps) have these
built-in, but since mine doesn't have one built-in I have *always* used a 
wind-up one, and it really solves the problem of uneven cooking.  You know 
how most instructions say "Cook for x seconds, turn baking dish, cook for x
seconds, turn..."?  Well, there's no need to turn the dish (I usually
would forget to do it anyway) if you're using a micro go-round.  All 
microwaves have hot spots, so without turning some parts are going to get 
over-cooked while some are barely cooked.

With baked potatoes, I would pierce them and, if they were large, cook for
8 minutes at full power, turn them over and cook for 6 minutes more.  If
they were medium in size, I'd cook for 6 minutes, turn them, then 4 minutes
more.  This has always worked great.  If you have one of those smaller
microwaves with less wattage, you'll need to cook longer.

Good luck,

Jan
From: geschwent@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Re: what is applesauce?
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:59:38 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: Muskingum College

In article <184nl5INNkej@uk-news.UK.Sun.COM>, kathy@fleance.UK.Sun.COM (Kathy Jago ) writes:
> I lost 4 1/2 lbs this week, meaning I got my 90lb star from WW, and just 3 1/4 lbs to goal!!  I think the
> problems with the last 10 lbs can be very much mental rather than physical.  Once I get to goal, a new

Congratulations! You're certainly an inspiration to me (and, I'm sure, others).

> Anyone able to convert applesauce to something I can buy in
> a UK supermarket, or make myself?  

It's very easy to make. You can cut apples into 1/8s or so, and saute them
in a small amount of water. Then when they're soft, put them through a food
mill or sieve to get rid of the seeds and skin. The remaining pulp is 
applesauce, usually served cold. You can add a little sugar and/or cinnamon
while they're cooking. The other thing you can do is skin and seed them, then
cook them. Generally, applesauce is pretty smooth (or at least the bought
variety we've been talking about baking with is). Some writers have claimed
good results with any pureed fruit.

Or...with your great WW record, get me your address and I'll send you a jar!

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Geschwent@vax.muskingum.edu
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Re: Always a new issue!
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:04:02 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <weceGxO00WBMQ7FnBs@andrew.cmu.edu> cj14+@andrew.cmu.edu (Cory Harper Jacques) writes:

>I am writing with a new issue in my life. I have lost weight slowly and
>am now looking healthy and feeling good. I did not set off on my eating
>and exercising to specifically lose weight, but instead to take better
>care of myself. Over the summer I followed a good work out plan. Right
>now school has come back in session and about 5 to 10 times daily I hear
>a screech accross campus or where ever of "God, you've lost weight".
>Some people say "you look great, but there is also the "wow, you look
>like you've lost tons of weight."  I find that people aren't really
>interested, but they are saying the first thing that comes out of their
>mouths. It isn't a complement to me, in fact it makes me feel
>uncomfortable.

>So that's what's up...I do feel good about all of the changes, but I
>also feel uncomfortable in the new way people are looking at me and the
>way people are approaching me. Maybe weight really does keep people at a
>distance - I had read that theypry before but never believed it...

You can't control other people's reactions.  Provided you aren't
suffering from a disease such as anorexia nervosa, in which the
patient has a distorted body image and thinks she looks better
emaciated, my rule is: if *you* feel better and you look better to 
your eye, then the reaction of your friends confirms that you have
really made great objective progress and aren't just fooling yourself.
Glory in it!  How they take it is dependent on their internal 
psychology (maybe they could stand to lose a few pounds themselves)
and shouldn't concern you.  When I've lost weight, I really like
people to notice.  I agree that it can be a bit annoying when after
you tell people about your diet they say something like "oh, thank
goodness, I was worried you had AIDS"!  But don't let that stop
you from being healthier.








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From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: Scaley tale
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 22:33:15 GMT

In <86728@netnews.upenn.edu> crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) writes:

>Well, with all the discussion going on about scales, I thought I'd
>mention what happened to me today.  It's primarily horrible, but
>there's a bit of good in it, too.

>I decided a year ago to stop weighing myself.  (I had previously
>been in the habit of weighing myself daily, and as you may remember
>from my previous posts, I'm also a prodigious yo-yo dieter.)  I
>also decided a year ago not to go on a diet but to try to get away from
>compulsive eating altogether.  The powers that be in this school of
>thought recommend making peace with all your forbidden foods first;
>i.e., allow them back in your daily diet.  Eat what you want, etc.
>Accept yourself.  So that's what I've been working on this past year.

>I knew I had gained weight over the year, and this morning I found out
>I gained 30 pounds.  That's the extremely horrible part.  The good news

congratulations on your clear view of yourself lauren...and i am glad
you are making peace with your forbidden foods...i hope that you now
progress in the direction you desire...

i have decided that i don't trust scales...i do weigh every
morning...and i bought digital scales so i would be EXACT...(and weigh
in at 152-153 consistently...) 

but i went to the gym and got on the scales there...159!  this is very
discouraging ....i prefer to believe my bathroom scales...but ...

sigh.

hugs to lauren and all...

barb
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From: dianeg@bcm.tmc.edu (Diane Ellen Griffiths)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Re: Yippeeeee!
Summary: Alright!!!
Date: 1 Sep 1992 14:53:26 GMT

Nice going there!! I know how it feels to lose that weight!

I was so excited last night when at WW I found out I lost 2.5 pounds last
week!!! Maybe I will make it to my goal weight!! (I know I will eventually!)

Diane

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From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Re: Maintenance  (was Re: Book, "Thin So Fast")
Date: 29 Aug 92 05:08:17 GMT
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

Boy, this volume eating stuff is really pretty amazing to read about.
Doesn't your (virtual) stomach get smaller as you stay on a diet and
lose weight?  I've lost about 45 pounds in the last 4 months eating
moderately, and I find that I simply can't eat what I comfortably could
a few months ago, nor would I really want to.  I'd say that my weight
problem seems to come from eating really calorie-laden fatty foods,
and eating-for-recreation; that is, not just when cueued by hunger.
Is your weight maintenance after these large weight losses associated
with such an increase in appetite that you're more or less destined to
have to indulge in volume eating, if only to get sufficiently full that
you can't eat any more?  It just sounds such such a LOT of food.  (Now,
I suppose if we were talking Pepperidge Farm cookies and Haagen Dasz
pints, I might have a different opinion. :-))

Anyway, both of your stories are really inspirational, even with
4 cups of zucchini at a meal.

-- 
Steve Dyer
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Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: lgold@callahans.Cadence.COM (Lynn Gold)
Subject: Re: Aargh. Wrench thrown in diet.
Organization: /mnt4/lgold/.organization
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 04:09:20 GMT

In article <92240.104613SEK@psuvm.psu.edu> Sonja Kueppers <SEK@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>This morning I went to the dentist.  Before eating breakfast (stupid,
>stupid, stupid).  I had teeth filled.  I'm now very hungry, but can't
>eat anything until the novocain wears off.

>After the novocain wears off, I'm only allowed to eat soft things.
>I can't, unfortunately, think of very many soft things I could
>buy at a convenience store, fast food restaurant, or diner. (At
>least, I can't think of anything I would usually get...)
>Well, to be more specific, I can't think of soft things that would
>actually be good for me to eat.

PASTA!!!!!

Spaghetti with tomato sauce is usually low-fat, isn't high calorie
unless you overdo it, and DEFINITELY soft (and easy to swallow)!
Most convenience stores and diners carry spaghetti or ravioli.

I've been having trouble swallowing for the past few weeks (I have a
sinus and lung infection), so I've been mostly sticking to foods that
are "spicy but easy to swallow."

Many soups are also easy to deal with and are low in fat.

Other foods include eggs, hot cereal, ice cream/ice milk/frozen yogurt
and sherbet/sorbets/fruit ices.

If you want fast food, there's not much out there.  Most fast foods
are DESIGNED to be crunchy and/or chewy.  Of course, most fast foods
are also high in fat and calories anyway....

Your safest fast food bets would be from Taco Bell -- either get a
bean burrito or a Mexi-melt.

Good luck!

--Lynn
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From: scotti@mtl.mit.edu (Gretchen Fuller)
Subject: Re: Food du jour
Keywords: pork, apples, crockpot
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:16:56 GMT

For anyone who might not be aware of it, Herb-Ox puts out a
low-sodium bouillon in both chicken and beef which are pretty
good.

Thanks for all the great recipes, Tom and everybody else.

Scotti
From: samari@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Tammy Woodley)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Re: Wow! I can't believe the inspiration here! :)
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:09:15 GMT
Reply-To: samari@watserv.ucr.edu
Distribution: usa


I got a letter in regards to this post, but somehow the sender's name
and address were lost.  So here is my response. :)  

>Do you have more information about this? I have been swimming to
>lose weight. I was wondering if it might also have something to do
>with HOW you swim. I.e. if you swim slowly and easily for a long 
>time, or quickly and intensely for a short time. I think the slow
>and long swims would be similar to aerobic workouts, whereas the
>short intense ones would be similar to lifting weights.

I've been swimming pretty much all my life, and it is a GREAT way
to get conditioned.  But, not a way to lose weight.  The best
way to get conditioned is to spend 1/2 - 1 hr swimming at an above
average speed, and to rest every 200 - 500 yrds.  If you are looking
for speed, then the sprints are better.

I ended up taking swimming completely out of my workout.  I can't be
sure, but it seemed like it was much easier to drop the weight.  
The reason why swimming is not goo for losing fat, is that the body
is constantly losing heat in the water, and it needs the added
insulation to keep it warm.  

>I think you're right; I got rid of the first 15 lbs without too much
>difficulty, but the last 30 lbs is not going as well :) I want
>to get down to 145 lbs.

Good job on your first 15 lbs!

I think that there is a plateau that you reach after the first drop
of weight.  I'm not quite sure if it's diet or a change of workout
techniques that can help this.  If you get more info, let me know.

>The last 30 has also been complicated by giving up smoking.
>An advantage of swimming over walking and jogging, is that
>it is much more difficult smoke when swimming :)

I hope you aren't smoking when you walk and jog!!!  and BTW, walking
burns as many calories per mile as jogging, and since the point is to
keep your heart rate between 130-160 bpm, walking can benefit you more
on fat building cuz you can to do it longer.  (as you know, you don't 
start burning a lot of fat until 20 - 30 min of 130-160 bpm heart rate. )


Good luck!  If i can be of any more help, please let me know!

- Tammy


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Subject: dietary program..anywhere?
From: mehta@ucunix.san.uc.edu (mehta)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 16:41:26 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati

I guess I am looking for a dietary program which will calculate the
nutritional value of the food I eat?  Is there one available?  what does
it cost and where can I find it?

thanks a lot

raj

Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: scotti@mtl.mit.edu (Gretchen Fuller)
Subject: Re: Yippeeeee!
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 12:30:15 GMT


CONGRATULATIONS!

GOOD GOING!!

Scotti
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: jnorberg@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu
Subject: Re: Milkshake
Organization: Washington State University
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:42:22 -0800

In article <saitowit.8@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za>, saitowit@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za (SAITOWITZ L S) writes:
> Just a quicky for those who love milkshake.
> 
> Take one apple, one bannana, half a cup of skim milk and a bit of powder 
> sweetner. 
> Liquidize and .. enjoy.
> 

This works even better if you freeze the banana beforehand!  Just peel them
and wrap them in waxed paper and pop them in the freezer!  It's delicious!

Also, you can try adding a little vanilla extract!

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From: rfelix@netcom.com (Robbie Felix)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Re: Aargh. Wrench thrown in diet.
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:17:44 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <92240.104613SEK@psuvm.psu.edu> Sonja Kueppers <SEK@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>Well, to be more specific, I can't think of soft things that would
>actually be good for me to eat.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>-Sonja

Hi Sonja,

If you haven't tried the "Glace" type frozen desserts at your local
frozen yogurt store you are missing a real treat!!!

This stuff has no fat, generally no refined sugar ( different brands
have different sweetners, some natural, some not) and some are made
almost exclusively with fruit!!

These are part of my overall "plan". I eat this stuff instead of one
meal per day. It is wonderful, tasty, relatively nutritious ( some
protein, little sugar and a few added vitamins in some cases).

TRY IT! I think you will be a convert!

rf
From: brooksp@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Peter Brooks)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 22:20:52 GMT
Subject: Re: Mexican din-din sans fat...
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet

A local Mexican place (Rooh's Cafe Salsa, for the San Jose folx) has
a low-fat menu, and they substitute boiled beans for the refried
variety.  I rather like them; you don't really need the lard, and
it's easy to do them at home.  (I'll do a combination of beans
in a crockpot and freeze them.)

Pete Brooks
From: kathy@fleance.UK.Sun.COM (Kathy Jago )
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: what is applesauce?
Date: 3 Sep 1992 09:59:01 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: kathy@fleance.UK.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: fleance.uk.sun.com


Hi All,

Been following this group for a few weeks now - great work everyone.  Glad to be able to post that
I lost 4 1/2 lbs this week, meaning I got my 90lb star from WW, and just 3 1/4 lbs to goal!!  I think the
problems with the last 10 lbs can be very much mental rather than physical.  Once I get to goal, a new
phase of my life will begin, and its a scary thought.  So my head, rather than my stomach, was responsible
for the slight glitch I'd been experiencing on my weight loss.  Once I put my mind to it, I got the loss mentioned
above - I won't say it was easy, but by being truly focussed, it was achievable.

Enough of my ramblings - now a question.  Anyone able to convert applesauce to something I can buy in
a UK supermarket, or make myself?  I really want to start muffin making, have saved the recipies but the ones that would
fit in with my allocation of units best (ie I'm not going to blow the hard work) use applesauce instead of
fat, and I want to be sure I'm buying/making the right thing.

Cheers

kathy
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: jnorberg@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu
Subject: She made my day!  :)
Organization: Washington State University
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:41:40 -0800

Something just happened to me and it really made my day! I was buying a few
groceries (a head of lettuce, a tomato, cucumber, and a six pack of A&W Diet
Cream Soda) at the corner supermarket, and as I paid for my purchase, the clerk
remarked "I hope it's not you that's eating this diet food!  You're skinny
enough!"

I think I was just about in seventh heaven at that point, and most likely had
about the biggest grin EVER on my face as I left the store.  I still can't get
over how good it has made me feel being validated like that by a total stranger
who never saw the 'before diet' version of me!

John    jnorberg@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu

Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: tlh8c@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Thomas Lee Horton)
Subject: Food du jour
Summary: Pork tenderloin with apples (crockpot)
Keywords: pork, apples, crockpot
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 02:51:36 GMT

With a request for crockpot recipes, I can tell it's back-to-school 
time.  Here's one for PORK TENDERLOIN WITH APPLES.

Buy the leanest tenderloin you can find and trim it of all visible
fat.  Place into a crockpot:

1 cup water
1 tbsp. chicken (or beef) bouillon (why don't they make pork bouillon?)
2 tbsp. rosemary leaves
a dash each of paprika, sage, thyme

Roll tenderloin and place into pot.  Sprinkle with:

1 tbsp. onion powder

Chop into large chunks:

1 medium onion
3 small apples

and place them into the pot.  Cook on LOW for 6-8 hours.  Do not stir.

There is very little fat in the tenderloin, and none added for cooking.
The steaming effect of the crockpot renders the meat juicy and flavorful.


I'm getting hungry!  Gotta go!  C-ya next time!  Bye!

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-TOM HORTON-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Organization: Senior, Social & Decision Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Date: Thu,  3 Sep 1992 12:32:14 -0400 
From: Cory Harper Jacques <cj14+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Potatoes
Distribution: alt

Hi!

When I microwave potatos I peirce them and put them in a dish with a lot
of water at the bottom. I cook them for about 12 minutes turining the
over about three times. They turn out moist and good!

Cory