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From: olemo@dhhalden.no (OLE-MAGNUS OLSEN)
Subject: Re: Beatles promo films
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 12:44:18 GMT

In article <1ggh0fINNdgj@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cq019@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Preston Landers) writes:
>From: cq019@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Preston Landers)
>Subject: Re: Beatles promo films
>Date: 13 Dec 1992 23:29:19 GMT
>
>In a previous article, maujs@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J D Morris) says:
>
>>	Another question for all you Beatle experts out there. Which
>>	songs did the Beatles make promotional films for? The only
>>	ones I've seen are:
>>
>>	Strawberry Fields Forever
>>	Penny Lane
>>	Hey Jude
>>	Revolution
>>	+ clips taken from Beatle films i.e. Magical Mystery Tour.
>>				thanks in advance...
>>						...Jonathan Morris
>>
>
>
>	I think "Paperback Writer" and "Let it Be" both have promo films.

Hello Goodbye, in Sgt. Pepper costumes.

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From: crmilton@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Christopher Robert MILTON)
Subject: MACCA in AUSTRALIA - got tickets!!!
Summary: Got 'em today
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 11:27:16 GMT

Hi,

	Just thought I'd let everyone around the world know that I got tickets
for Paul's March 9th Melbourne, Australia concert at the MCG. There were people
camping out but I just turned up at 6am and was 11th in line - still only 
managed row R on the grass in front of the stage on the oval but there were a
lot of ticket outlets with terminals spurting out tickets around Melbourne!

	Well, now to wait... Less than 3 months to go!

	Will be sure to report on the concert to everyone after the event!

	Chris.
From: doh@cis.ksu.edu (Kyung-Goo Doh)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: _Straight Up_ by Badfinger
Date: 16 Dec 1992 17:31:20 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University, Dept. of Computing and Information Sciences
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In article <9910004@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> mike-b@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Michael Bishop) writes:
>Does anyone know if Badfinger's album _Straight Up_ is available on CD yet?
>

It has been available for quite a while. Check your local store.

Kyung-Goo
From: pdb@csthor.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Patrick Derek Bell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Macca's New Single
Date: 16 Dec 92 10:32:59 GMT
Organization: University College of Wales, Aberystwyth

What does anyone think of Paul's new single, 'Hope of Deliverence' ?
It is currently record of the week on Radio 1 , but I've still to get into it 
myself. Please let me know of your opinions of it and of any snippets 
you've heard from the new album 'Off The Ground' coming out in
February.
 Thanks,
   Patrick.
From: dennis@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Dennis Alstrand)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 20:41:42 GMT
Subject: Re: John Lennon Remembered
Organization: the HP Mtn.View Resp. Cntr.
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles

In rec.music.beatles, lygariba@unix.amherst.edu (LISA YVONNE GARIBAY) writes:

> I suppose that I can't really call this "John Lennon Remembered" since I 
> really don't remember much about him.  I was born in 1974, much too late
> to be a part of the Fab Four when they were at the peak of fame.  And I was

Discussion deleted

> Thank you, John.
> With much love to everyone,

> Lisa Y. Garibay :)

> lygaribay@unix.amherst.edu
> lygaribay@amherst.edu


Lisa,

Your write-up was touching and opening.  Perhaps some of us don't take
younger 'post-Beatlers' seriously enough.   From this notes-group, I've
really been discovering that the Beatles touched people from later generations
just as much, and sometimes more, than those that were around when it 
happened.  Thanks for sharing that with us.  I've copied it down
into a file to look it over now and then.

Thanks,

Dennis Alstrand

dennis@hpwrc11.mayfield.hp.com
From: waltersm@logica.co.uk
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Beatles to reform????
Date: 18 Dec 92 10:12:46 GMT

In article <BzBJME.Ev6@mtholyoke.edu>, mdubey@MtHolyoke.edu (Mandakini Dubey) writes:
> I am completely and utterly confused. All these years I thought that the
> three who performed at Clapton's wedding were Paul, George and Ringo. And
> now Christer says that it was John! Maybe it WAS Paul, making fun of
> himself as a way of making fun of John making fun of him, etc. 
> I wanted to ask the person who saw John's face in the sky smiling down on
> him/her: did he make faces at you, as he always did at the camera?
> Just wondering.
> Since Rolling Stone has given up being "a cosmic giggle" in order to write
> serious (pretentious) articles on Roque 'n Roale, I think r.m.b has
> (intentionally or otherwise) inherited that mantle.
> 
Is there some confusion between Clapton's wedding and George's 2nd marriage
(by which I might mean Ringo's - not able to recall the dates, locations etc)
in the early 80's?  I remember `reviews' of George's (or Ringo's) marriage
saying there was a big jam/singalong sessions afterwards.

I'll check it over the weekend.

MCW
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: jbmorris@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (jeffrey brent morris)
Subject: Re: The Singles on CD
Keywords: singles, mono
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:23:10 GMT

Well...
That depends if you want to pay an average of $7 for two songs.  Too bad you
missed the 3" CDs.  Then you could've bought individually only those you need.
There are many versions on these singles that aren't on the normal CDs.
Sometimes the mono mix is quite different from the stereo mix, sometimes
there's not anything specific you can easily pin down about what's different,
but always the mono has a different feel, simply because it's mono.  And the
mono was the mix The Beatles originally concentrated on, many of the stereo
mixes not being done until years later.  So, the mono gives you more of the
sound of the times (though you need a scratchy record to get you all the way
back to then!).
At any rate, I already mentioned a few of the significantly different monos...
Help!, Revolution, Baby You're a Rich Man, Yellow Submarine, and so forth...
Do you want a post of all the significant differences?

- Jeff ("I'll sing if you want me to sing, and I won't sing if you don't
         want me to sing..." - George)

Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: healy@nosc.mil (Mike Healy)
Subject: Re: Chronology
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:52:58 GMT


In my remembrance of Lou (falsetto) Christie, Lightning came out first,
the Rhapsody was the followup. This would be the order of getting a
lot of airplay at least.

Mike Healy

healy@nosc.mil

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From: canderso@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chuck Anderson)
Subject: Re: Notes on "I Need You" (INY)
Reply-To: canderso@nyx.UUCP (Chuck Anderson)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 01:46:57 GMT

Hey David, I know you're probably getting bombarded with messages telling
you how "off base" you were, but don't fret.  You're not the first that's
fallen into this trap.  It's easy to understand how you would arrive at
your opinion - it does *seem* a bit pretentious and overdone, but, as
you've found out, most rmb'ers love it.

So hey, don't let the flack chase you away or anything.  Anybody who
cares to read rmb (assuming they have some admiration for the "boys"),
is alright with this group.

Hope your still hanging around.

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From: mdubey@MtHolyoke.edu (Mandakini Dubey)
Subject: Re: Really bizarre GET BACK take
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:50:31 GMT

I think Paul has commented on it, apparently it's anti-racist and is about
the government's stupid (xenophobic) immigration policies against
Pakistanis, not his own views. It was changed because John thought it was
too heavily political (!). I don't think he would have left it unmentioned
(in the days that he was slamming Paul in the press) during interviews it
if was indeed racist.
From: cq019@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Preston Landers)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Really bizarre GET BACK take
Date: 14 Dec 1992 22:50:54 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cq019@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Preston Landers)
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	The original title of the song was "Don't Dig No Pakistanis" 
about Britian's immigration policy.

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PRESTON LANDERS                                cq019@cleveland.freenet.edu
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From: mm@brl.mil (Mike Markowski (Vulberability/Lethality Div) <mm>)
Subject: Re: Beatles on laserdisc?
Reply-To: mm@brl.mil
Organization: US Army Research Laboratory
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:24:42 GMT

In article <1992Dec9.191147.4726@udel.edu> I wrote:

   Unfortunately, I seem to be a late comer - I've been told much of
   [the Beatles'] stuff has already been discontinued on laserdisc.  Will
   it be rereleased at some future date?  Are used discs available at
   reasonable prices?

Well, to answer part of my own question (which may of interest to others),
Sight & Sound says this as best as I can remember it.  The companies' rights
to press Magical Mystery Tour and Yellow Submarine have expired.  MPI now has
rights to Magical Mystery Tour, and S&S is guessing that they have them for
Yellow Submarine as well.  Another guess from S&S is that these discs will
be rereleased within the next year - maybe a widescreen of Yellow Submarine
this time?

Many thanks to those who pointed me to the other ld's out there!

-- 
Mike Markowski
mm@brl.mil
(410)278-6674
From: cq019@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Preston Landers)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Help!
Date: 12 Dec 1992 02:32:24 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I'm sure this qualifies as a FAQ:

Is Let It Be (the film) availible on video? As in at my local video store?

Also, someone told me that since all the beatles litigation was cleared up,
they were going to release an album of previously unreleased
material. Is this true? Thanks.

planders
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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 14:48:59 GMT
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Organization: The "Lost Weekend" Research Institute
From: ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk
To: usenet@phaze.cam.org
Cc: 
Subject: Ringo's "Goodnight Vienna"

Not sure how many of you don't know this already, but.......

Ringo's "Goodnight Vienna" (1974) has been released on CD, Parlophone CDPCS 7168

Extra tracks are "Back off Boogaloo", "Blindman", and "Six O'Clock (Extended
Version)". The booklet comes with a lot of black and white photos of the
recording sessions, of poor quality.

There is a newly (1992) written set of liner notes. The album also describes
who played what on all songs.

Cheers,

Ross-c
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: jparr@chekov.helios.nd.edu (James Parr)
Subject: Paul is Dead
Followup-To: rec.music.beatles
Organization: ALCO/LRC
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:56:02 GMT



I have been fascinated for some years now with the story of the "Paul is
dead" scandal.  I am amazed at all of the supposedly careful planning that
the group went through to make it credible.  I learned most of it through
Neville Stannards book "The Long and Winding Road."  If anyone is more
informed than I am, will you please let me know.  Please send it to my
e-mail address:

															jparr@chekov.helios.nd.edu

																															-James Parr (Parrski)
From: mike-b@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Michael Bishop)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:29:59 GMT
Subject: _Straight Up_ by Badfinger
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles

Does anyone know if Badfinger's album _Straight Up_ is available on CD yet?

Thanx.

Michael Bishop
Hewlett-Packard Company
Internet: mike-b@fc.hp.com
CompuServe: 71552,1341
From: dincense@maths.tcd.ie (Jeffrey Crosbie)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Let Me Take You Down; Lennon & Chapman
Keywords: mind control
Date: 14 Dec 92 12:08:59 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.


My name is Jeffrey Crosbie<dincense@maths.tcd.ie>
For several months I've been reading up on the murder of John
Lennon.As everyone knows there are several books on the subject matter
including the very recent "Let Me Take You Down"by an author 
whose name totally evades me at this moment in time.One very good book
was "The Murder Of John Lennon"by another author whose name evades
me.He claimed that Mark Chapman had been singled out by the F.B.I
and was subjected to "mind control".He was ,the writer claimed ,
hypnotised into believing that lennon was a danger to the world
and had to be disposed of before he twathed the minds of everyone.
Lennon was on the F.B.I.danger list,apparentely.
                                               I'd be very 
interested to know the views and opinions of other .......
people ,especially Beatles fans.Do you think Chapman's mind was
under control or do you prefer his own version;i.e.he killed a
false god, an image,a traitor to the old simple fashions of
"She loves you" and "Love me Do"?
                               I am a huge fan of the Beatles
They were, are, will be the masters;past present and future
From: jpb@calmasd.Prime.COM (Jan Bielawski)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Beatles on laserdisc?
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:46:37 GMT
Organization: Computervision, San Diego, CA

In article <1992Dec9.191147.4726@udel.edu> mm@brl.mil writes:
<Hi everyone,
<
<I'm a new reader to this group and was wondering if someone could tell me
<where an FAQ is.  I haven't seen it mentioned yet.
<
<I'm interested in getting some Beatles movies and other video on ld.
<Unfortunately, I seem to be a late comer - I've been told much of their
<stuff has already been discontinued on laserdisc.  Will it be rereleased
<at some future date?  Are used discs available at reasonable prices?

	As far as I know all Beatles laserdiscs are still available.
They are (from memory, I may be forgetting something):

A Hard Day's Night (Criterion, digital stereo(!), CLV & CAV)
Help!	(Criterion, CLV & CAV)
Magical Mystery Tour
Yellow Submarine (*Not* in widescreen which is a pain in the neck!)
Compleat Beatles (the documentary)
Beatles Conquer America (I probably got the title wrong, it's the one
			 with the Ed Sullivan performances)
Imagine: John Lennon (the Andrew Solt documentary, great value at $25,
		      excellent transfer)

There have been rumors about a Let It Be release for several years now
but nothing happened so far.

	Jan Bielawski
	Computervision, San Diego
	jpb@calmasd.prime.com
From: edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: NO, THEY'RE *NOT* REFORMING!
Date: 17 Dec 1992 19:44:37 GMT
Organization: Little to none, or maybe not......
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In article <BzF3J6.vu@mtholyoke.edu> mdubey@MtHolyoke.edu (Mandakini Dubey) writes:

>I just read the Times (London) report on McCartney's statement, which was
>released during a press conference *to announce his world tour*. Apparently
>he said that he had met George in California the day before (oh, these
>jetsetters), and they had talked about the documentary; they *might* do a
>little music together. 

[some deleted]

>I mention this only because Saki's posted something about the
>publicity-starved Macca, and this news report obviously means that he wasn't
>having the press conference just to sensationalize their film
>involvement. 

Ahh, but that is not what dear Mrs. Saki said to the listening (reading?)
audience.   What she actually claimed is that *to those of us who are a 
bit more cynical* it would seem that Paul will pull the "the three of us
may work together" chestnut out of his hat whenever he needs a bit of
publicity.

At least on this occasion, Paul deserves the benefit of the doubt for
two main reasons:

1) Paul had spoken with George, and they had (apparently) discussed the 
possibility of doing something for the film.

and

2) As you mention, it was indeed at a press conference.  Ever since 1970,
there has always been at least one "will the Beatles ever play together again?"
question.   It just so happens that this time the answer is a "perhaps" rather
then a "probably not".  (Although it is interesting that Paul seems to have
completely dismissed his Wings attitude that "You can't reheat a souflee).

It is then the public, fed by the media who turn the story into something
it wasn't.

>Poor guy! Apart from getting wrinkles, he gets to be discussed
>as this neurotic public-relations demon. 

Well, this tour should be interesting.   Reports from inside the McCartney
camp claim he is "desperate" to have a hit single.   Assuming the first
volume of the series shows up while Macca is on tour; and if the three do
anything, even just a clip of them sitting together discussing old times,
can you imagine the public/media reaction?

Can you imagine how much more it would be if the three do anything 
*musical* for the tape?   Might just be enough to shoot Macca's new
single to the top ten, if not number one.   I'm not saying this was all 
*planned*, but I am saying Paul knows how to take advantage of the 
circumstances.  A "neurotic public-relations demon"? No.   A shrewd
entertainer who knows how to get publicity, while still producing
good music?  Yes.

>Of course the Beatles can't re-form, an important one-fourth of them got
>murdered. Anyway, who wants them to reform? I liked 'em naughty.

And Paul, George, and Ringo would be the first to tell you that (sadly) there
CANNOT ever be a "Beatles" again...

<ESC>


-- 
Something in the way she moves, attracts me like a pomegranate.
                                     -- George Harrison
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: The Lives of JL
From: rhill@netlink.cts.com (Ron Hill)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 17:58:44 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

cq019@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Preston Landers) writes:

> 
> In a previous article, mcsdc1al@dct.ac.uk () says:
> 
> >
> >Albert Goldman has been thoroughly lambasted several times for attacking dea
> >stars who are unable to defend themselves (Elvis, Lenny Bruce, John etc). 
> >However, I personally feel that he is a really shrewd writer.  Certainly, hi
> >Elvis book was the first to reveal the full horror of the singer's death, an
> >IMO "TLOJL" is the definitive Lennon biog.
> 
> 	I have to disagree.  Goldman's book was so iconoclastic and incendary
> that many of the things in it are too hard to believe.  Coleman's book,
> however, I enjoyed.  Perpetrating the myth? I dunno, but I thought 
> Goldman was too hard on ole Johnny.  That isn't stopping me from giving
> his book to a friend for christmans, though....
> 
> -- 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> PRESTON LANDERS                                cq019@cleveland.freenet.edu
> "The man in the crowd with the multicolored mirrors on his hobnail boots."
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

 
        I just saw a newer edition of the "Lennon" book which had a 
really good update that went into "Lives" and the movie.  It had the best 
retort to "lives" that I've seen, including addressing issues like the 
"lives" book reporting that Brian Epstein's mother witnessed her son 
being beat up by John, while she now denies anything like that happened. 


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From: dthompson@vixvax.mgi.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Ringo's "Goodnight Vienna"
Date: 19 Dec 92 16:38:21 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Management Graphics, Inc.

ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk writes:

> Ringo's "Goodnight Vienna" (1974) has been released on CD [...]

Has this been released in the U.S. yet? I can't wait to get a clean copy
of "Snookeroo"!

Moko

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From: becker@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (John Becker)
Subject: Forbes article on BBC tapes
Organization: Motorola, CCR&D, CORP, Schaumburg, IL
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 09:12:20 GMT

The following is excerpted from an article in December 21, 1992 Forbes
magazine, page 46:

Do you want to know a secret?
-----------------------------

Who owns the rights to more than two hours of so-far unreleased Beatles
music? Thirty years ago, and well before they made their U.S. debut in 1964
on the Ed Sullivan show, the Beatles were offered free studio time by BBC
radio. After the resulting tape was broadcast, these recordings were locked
away, played only rarely on the BBC.

The long-running dispute over how to split the profits among the BBC, Thorn
EMI, and Apple may be nearing settlement at last. Neither EMI nor Apple wants
this squabble to end up in court. Both are eager to feed the public's
appetite for Beatles music. With a settlement, the recordings are likely to
be issued quickly as two CDs.

There has been no new studio music from the group since "Let It Be". That
makes the BBC's recordings quite possibly the most valuable music recordings
never released to the public.

Rupert Perry, president of EMI Records in London, will say nothing about the
negotiations.
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