HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: pcalvert@nyx.cs.du.edu (P. Calvert)
Subject: Re: What abbreviation is ALOHA?
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Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 04:38:14 GMT

In article <BvoFqz.1Dt@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.ed
 (xiao-lin li) writes:
>
>For network expert: What is the abbreviation of the word ALOHA.
>I don't need analysis, only the origin of the abbreviation. Thanks.
>
>


-----

Aloha is not an abbreviation, it is a word.  It is a Hawaiian word which
can mean either hello or goodbye depending on the situation in which it is
used.
From: yndst2+@pitt.edu (Yong Duan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Oct 1, our National Day
Date: 4 Oct 92 02:27:31 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Oct2.183440.13380@news.acns.nwu.edu> usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns) writes:
> .......
> .... number of soldiers  
>in the army was getting less and less important because of the new technolodgy                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>used in military. .........
>
>Carl

Except for its internal stability and to crush possible internal
political opponents and to fool people.

Y.Duan

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,ucs.network
From: xyang@bcars279.UUCP (Sherry Yang)
Subject: Re: What abbreviation is ALOHA?
Reply-To: xyang@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:13:47 GMT

In article <BvoFqz.1Dt@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li) writes:
|> 
|> For network expert: What is the abbreviation of the word ALOHA.
|> I don't need analysis, only the origin of the abbreviation. Thanks.

Is ALOHA in Hawaiian native language for "Hello"?
I learned that when on a trip to Hawaii last year. Can someone
from there confirm it?

-- 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns)
Subject: Re: Oct 1, Greencard, and others
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 22:20:38 GMT

In article <9210022142.AA09340@phloem.uoregon.edu> Tuya@ccmail.uoregon.edu  
writes:
>           Oct. 1 is no more important than the day Mr. Zhu Yuan1
>           Zhang1 became the president of China.  From a historical
>           point of view, they are essentially events of the same
>           nature.
> 
>           As a university student, I couldn't care less who the new
>           president of my university is.  I am more concerned about
>           the hole that just appeared in my shoe.
> 
>           I wonder what a hen would say if you tell her that
>           she would lay eggs for Mr. Pretty, instead of Mr. Ugly.
> 
>           I noted a lot of friends are sending messages to the white
>           house, some for the greencard, some against it.  IMHO, the
>           existence of group A is always a bad news to group B, and
>           vise versa, regardless if the Bill will be signed or not.
> 
>           My proposal would be to initiate two more bills: one deports
>           group A from the U.S., another deports B.  I propose Mr.
>           Shannon Yeh as the coordinator for both bills, and Zhao
>           Haiqing the director.  No matter which one passes, it will
>           ultimately benefit democracy and human rights in China for
>           the group that is deported will increase the su4 zhi4 of the
>           population in China.


Good joke! Let's do a little bit further more. Let's propose Mr. Shi Chunde as  
the coordinator for a bill to send both groups A and B back, along with those  
ABCs or even those who have one Chinese parent or grand-parent or  
grand-grand-parent. After all of them are sent back (of course, including me),  
we will see a democratic and strong China soon (or maybe even overnight, who  
knows!).

Carl
From: XXX100@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: No cop under signal(Re:Can I buy a fax from US and install in China
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:25:53 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

> From: xiong@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Bo Xiong)
> Subject: Re: Can I buy a fax machine from U.S. and install in China?
> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 03:50:15 GMT

> In article <28528@life.ai.mit.edu> pwu@oreo.ai.mit.edu (Peng Wu) writes:

> >Relax.  Just register and get on with your live.  In US, one used to have to
> >get a license from FCC for operating a CB radio.  Now I believe the
> >regulation/law still says the same but FCC has long stopped licensing and any
> >one can operate a CB without a license now.  Similar things happened to
China.
> >One used to have to register his/her radio with police, in the 50's I think.
> >Today, probably there are not many who even know such a regulation existed.

> You relax :-)  The requirement for FAX machine owners to register with
> Public Security Bureau was imposed shortly AFTER June 4th Beijing Masscare,
> your reasoning/prediction doesn't quiet apply here.

> >From: xiong@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Bo Xiong)
> >Subject: Re: Can I buy a fax machine from U.S. and install in China?
> >Date: 22 Sep 92 03:53:36 GMT
  >
> >In article <BuyMrC.Eot@ecf.toronto.edu> yinhao@ecf.toronto.edu (Yin Hao)
wrote:

> >>As I know, you have to get permission from the police dept. to install the
fax
> >>machine at your own home.  (Or some telecommunication dept. which I'm not
too
> >>sure about).

> >>Howard

> >Thanks for the reminding, actually not only FAX machines, but also Xerox
> >machines, Laser printers and any "equipments that can be used to print or
> >re-print propaganda materials", must be registered with/licensed by Public
> >Security Bureau.   What a "Police Republic of China" ...  :-)

> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Bo Xiong in Chicago
=====================================================================

          A new coming friend from dept. of post and telecommunication
          of China told me yesterday that the installation of fax
          machine needs no permission from any police related dept.

          However you need to register the fax machine and to geta
          permission sticker from  You Dian Bu, in order to ensure
          network and proper charge rate. Actually many just installed
          the machine, and got no permision at all. And no one comes
          up to bother them yet.

          Only a few people have their own fax in China. No one takes it
          too seriously yet.


          Many  describe this kind of situation as Hong2 Deng1
          Xia4 Mian4 Wu2 Jing3 Cha2. It's fun to hear this sort
          of words.



          X Xu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: hqian@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (haibo qian)
Subject: Re: Oct 1, our National Day
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 17:11:10 GMT

In article <6789@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> yndst2+@pitt.edu (Yong Duan) writes:
>>I don't understand what you mean that
>>American does  not crush other countries.  American says China can not
>>sell weapons to other countries. But one province of China just received
>>the promise of selling 150 F16 fighters from US.
>>Does American really want to be of them?? Open you eyes, my friend!
>
>This sounds to me like a unfair military sales competition only. 
>American does not crush China, does it? I doubt if you have opened your
>eyes. I still remember what I was taught when I was in grade school.
>My teacher told me that don't wear colored glasses when you judge
>people. The same tip is applicable when you judge the nations.
>So, even we have our eyes widely opened, we still need to eliminate
>"color glasses" effects.
>
>Looks like you still don't believe that US has the power to crush
>China, economically and militarilly. I don't like the fact. But the
>fact is the fact. The fact and truth is that American can crush China
>within relatively short time if they want. I guess it's my turn to

	I agree with your viewpoint but disagree with the above
        assertion that US can crush China in a relatively short 
	time if they want. 

	USA is and was indeed strong enough, but USA failed to crush the 
	Vietnam and didn't win the Korea war. 

	It is much difficult to crush a nation than to crush a regime.
	History says so.

>remind you open your eyes. This is out of original
>questions. What I've tried and I am trying to say is that
>we ought to try to be friend of other nations. Don't try to be
>the enemy of them. Only crazy people are dreaming to have a strong nation
>and crush the opponents. Wakeup guys. Daytime dream ( or open-eye
>dream ) does not help anybody.
>
>Let me emphasis my point. I like a strong yet friendly China. If some
>day that China is strong enough to crush her opponents and she tries so,
>I will be the ones who try to stop her.
>
>Y.Duan
>
>>>I truelly suspect even CCP would like your suggestion. I also
>>
>>>suspect that if you have brain. I suggest you go to see your doctor
>>>immediately. At least see your psychaitrist.
>>>
>>>Y.Duan
>
>
>


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 5 Oct 1992 15:56:31 CDT
From: <U46164@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Looking for Yuan Jin-Fang

 I am looking for my friend  Yuan Jin-Fang


Please give me e mail or call me :

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From: bihkyan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Yang Yuanxin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Oct 1, our National Day
Date: 3 Oct 92 15:54:37 GMT
Organization: Educational Computing Network

In article <1992Oct2.183440.13380@news.acns.nwu.edu> usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns) writes:
>In article <1992Oct2.120636.1@ducvax.auburn.edu> haiqiu@ducvax.auburn.edu  
>writes:
>> > And BTW, whose fault was that of the huge population?
>> 
>>   I have read a book written by Jiang Jie-Shi, the KMT ruler before 1949. I
>> got such a idea that if it is Jiang in mainland after 1949. The population
>> will be much much huger now. For in that book he accused CCP of try all kinds
>> of method to reduce the Chinese population including massacre, and he said
>> what he will do is encourage the fast growth of the population so China is
>> the Ultra-largest and strongest nation in the world.
>>  
>
>In 1940s or earlier, the number of soliders in the army did mean something  
>because technology was not advanced enough. So it seems a little bit more  
>understandable why Jiang would encourage population growth. Jiang did not make  
>such comment any more in 1960s and 1970s because he knew the number of soldiers  
>in the army was getting less and less important because of the new technolodgy  
>used in military. So I don't think Jiang would do the same thing Mao did in  
>1950s and 1960s, and thus the population would not have been so large.
>
>Mao is very stupid (or crazy). Even in late 1960s, he still proudly told  
>foreign diplomates that he could summon a 100 million soldier army to "defend"  
>China. I believe it was militarily motive that push Mao to encourage fast  
>growth of population. 
>
  Then you are truly stupid.
  Go to some country side of China, ask one of the woman on the street,
  why does she want 12 children, she answers:" I want to build a strong
  family army".

>
>Carl
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,talk.politics.china
From: yjj@ctr.columbia.edu (Yuan Jiang)
Subject: Conference: Sino-Tibetan Relations: Prospects for the future
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 05:59:42 GMT

will be held on 10/5-10/6, at Freedom Forum, Arlington, Virginia.
It's organized by Tibet Forum and Center for Modern China.  It is
partly sponsored by National Endowment for Democracy.

Speakers include scholars, leading  and individual members from 
Chinese and Tibetan communities.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:26714 soc.culture.taiwan:14092 talk.politics.china:1525
From: joe@astro.as.utexas.edu (Joe Wang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,talk.politics.china
Subject: Re: Taiwanese Government Is Not Only Selfish ... Re: TW News 16/9/92
Date: 2 Oct 92 02:12:25 GMT
Followup-To: talk.politics.china
Organization: McDonald Observatory, University of Texas @ Austin

In article <1992Sep27.043925.16984@leland.Stanford.EDU> claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>Notice how the Soviet Union almost lost all its reforms while it was still
>under the Communist Party?  

Notice how Russia is still finding it very, very difficult to undergo
reforms, and how reform is practically dead in Ukarine and Belarus.

>You have to get rid of the Communist Party
>apparatus in order for the faction that loses power due to the reforms to
>become powerless to stop the reforms.  And that is what the coup and the
>"revolution" following it accomplished in Russia.

The coup and "revolution" did nothing of the sort.  The old Communist
Party apparatus is quieter and they no longer call themselves
Communists, but they are very active in the Parliament and in the
Central Bank.  They are not as powerful as they once were, but they
are certainly not powerless.

In Ukarine, the former Communists have now become nationalists, but
they still run things almost exactly the same way as "pre-coup."
From: utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Oct 1, Greencard, and others
Date: 3 Oct 92 04:30:14 GMT
Organization: Educational Computing Network

In article <1992Oct2.222038.17560@news.acns.nwu.edu> usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns) writes:
>In article <9210022142.AA09340@phloem.uoregon.edu> Tuya@ccmail.uoregon.edu  
>> 
......

>>           My proposal would be to initiate two more bills: one deports
>>           group A from the U.S., another deports B.  I propose Mr.
>>           Shannon Yeh as the coordinator for both bills, and Zhao
>>           Haiqing the director.  No matter which one passes, it will
>>           ultimately benefit democracy and human rights in China for
>>           the group that is deported will increase the su4 zhi4 of the
>>           population in China.
>
>
>Good joke! Let's do a little bit further more. Let's propose Mr. Shi Chunde as  
>the coordinator for a bill to send both groups A and B back, along with those  
>ABCs or even those who have one Chinese parent or grand-parent or  
>grand-grand-parent. After all of them are sent back (of course, including me),  
>we will see a democratic and strong China soon (or maybe even overnight, who  
>knows!).
>
No, we will only bring back more fight back to China. What a bright
future.

Tingli Pan
>Carl
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: aguo@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (aihua guo)
Subject: Re: Need help about zwdos21.zip
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 23:16:44 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.164823.10745@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu> cxu@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Chun Xu) writes:
>Hi, Netters:
>
>	I read a news about how to Read Chinese Text on Usernet and
>try to get it. Now, I got some problem and need someone's help.
>
>	I have a AT&T 386 in my office and I can use KERMIT to enter
>a campus network. Right now, I have got the zwdos*.zip through ftp.
>these files are stored under my account in the campus network. I wanted
>to use C-KERMIT to transfer the files to my PC. I have set the file type
>BINARY. But the transmission can't work yet. The MS-KERMIT always said
>" No response form host" and terminate the trans.
>
>I appreciate your wonderful help!
>
>Tang Siwei

If you are using MS_Kermit V3.11c to communicate with the network, it 
should have no problem since I do this thousands of times. Make sure the
following steps are correct:
1). In your UNIX (or whatsoever) account, type "kermit" then you are under
C-Kermit prompt;
2). type "set file type binary"
3). type "send [file name]
4). Ctrl-] and then "c";
5). After MS-Kermit> type "receive a:" or any directory you want.

If you have tried this correctly, I guess the problem is because your
system's kermit is not set right. If you are using UNIX, then you may 
wish to use "sx" or "sz" to do the file transfer, but in this case, you
should use a communication program which uses x,y,or zmodem.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: cqu@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Chang-ning Qu)
Subject: Re: Mailing address for Mr. Steve Lin
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 04:08:09 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.180839.7340@tamsun.tamu.edu> x0y3510@tamuts.tamu.edu (Xuejun Yang) writes:
>In article <ld1e3eINNp5v@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin) writes:
>>>
>>>>>>Please make your check payable to:
>>>>>>China SOS Education Fund
>>>
>>Do not mail your check to Steve!
>>Do not follow up with this subject!
>>
>>Please provide more information what kind of children need help?`
>>What kind of help needed?
>>
>>I thought to adopt some children, but I worry that they become CCP. :-)
>
>This guy sounds so much like McCarthy, I wonder if he is the adopted
>son of McCarthy!
>
>I just don't understand why you and Carl are so cynical about China 
>until now. I thought you guys had psycho problems. Now I see.
>

   They are a kind of men only could ruin or destroy something but
never create something good for China. They are always focusing
other's deficiencies but never try to give the helps. Look the
Mr. xxx, he tout loudly for his own and blame CG forever. But
when asking him do something for Children in China and he is so
stingy and talks nonsense. Hi man, where is your braveness!
Come to China and fight with CCP there, I bet you not dare, funk!
Or be quiet, that shows you are not too foolish. China needs  
no more speakers but doers.   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: phsjjc@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu (James J. Cen)
Subject: Re: Michael Chang in US Open Semi-Final!
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 08:36:46 GMT


In article <1992Sep25.173611.16865@tamsun.tamu.edu> chen@cs.tamu.edu (Jianer Chen ) writes:

>In article <9209242317.AA07247@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> phsjjc@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu (James J. Cen) writes:

>>In article <1992Sep24.190528.26844@tamsun.tamu.edu> chen@cs.tamu.edu
>>(Jianer Chen) writes:

>>>Are you sure that Michael's family is that bad?  This might not
>>>be an acceptable manner for a NATIVE AMERICAN to
>>>receive so much care from his family, but I don't see
>>>what is wrong for a family to take care of a family
>>>member and the member himself likes the way.
>>>(family value, right?  :-)) Michael
>>>seems at least not dislike that.  By the way, Michael
>>>has made much progress after his brother became his coach.

>>>-- JC

>>what do you mean by NATIVE AMERICAN?

>>by NATIVE you mean INDIAN American or you mean (more likely here) WHITE
>>American?

>>Michael Chang is American, an American-born American, period.

>>The fact that you and he share the same ETHENICITY does not make him less
>>American than any other Americans (by birth or by choice).  Or you less
>>Chinese for that matter.

>I don't see why you are upset.  I had no intention to either
>make Michael more Chinese or less American or make myself
>more American or less Chinese.  If you really want to argue,
>I simply tell you that there should not be only a single kind of family
>relation in this country.  A (Chinese) American family may
>have some family form that is not understood by a
>(non-Chinese) American.  But I don't understand why
>a (Chinese) American or a Chinese cannot understand it.

The point I was trying to make is: Michael Chang is as American as the next
guy.  In your previous post, you seemed to imply that Chinese American are
not Native (Natural?) Americans.  I am sorry if I have misunderstood you.

I am not upset with you.  If my post appeared to be flaming, I am sorry. 
I was not flaming you.

I have not intention of arguing about family relations (or values, if only
we can agree on what they really mean) on the net.  They should be left to
the families to decide on their own.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xyang@bcars279.UUCP (Sherry Yang)
Subject: info wanted: China SOS Education Fund 
Reply-To: xyang@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:58:30 GMT

I missed the original posting about this fund. Can someone
in the net re-post it or mail me more information about the
fund such as:

The purpose of the fund,

How is the fund managed, distributed, etc.

How can a contributor obtain the benefiecial's progress,

Is it possible for someone to become a foester parent of a 
Chinese child through the fund (such program is available to
many third world countris but China),

Detailed address for mailing contribution or other contacts, etc.

...


Many thanks,

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,talk.politics.china
From: ping@bnlux1.bnl.gov (Shiping Zhang)
Subject: Re: Do Something For Yourself, Guys--Protection Bill.
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 18:53:01 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.012336.2587@news.iastate.edu> zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.181651.27728@linus.mitre.org> 129.83.161.10 (H. Chao) writes:
>...
>>> >> ..., ...
>>> > Yes, I will do something for myself, but not by using other people's blood
>>> >and telling lies. I am against this bill.
>>> 
>>> If Bush signs the bill and move the date to current, are you still hate the 
>>> bill? Why don't you call Bush and ask him to do so. That is what to do sth
>>> for yourself.
>>
>>Yes, I still hate the bill, unless this bill can cover all Chinese student.
>
>    I still hate the bill, unless this bill can cover all WORLD students.

  The question is:
    Do they hate their U.S. visa (F1, J1, or whatever) that millions
    of people are dreaming for but are refused by U.S. consulates,
    embassies?

-ping