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From: saf@netcom.com (Steve A. Feinstein)
Subject: Re: OS2 and Soundblaster
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 04:35:45 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <92253.093632U54345@uicvm.uic.edu> Darius Vaskelis <U54345@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>[...]
>>If I kill a game with Soundblaster-Support, the last played
>>sound is still there and that doesn~t sound too good.
>>
>>I`d liked a little program to reset the soundblaster card.
>>Any solutions out there ?
>
>I've typed VPLAY SILENCE and that seemed to do it as long as it wasn't
>the AdLib portion (FM synthesizer) that was left hanging.
>
>(VPLAY.EXE and SILENCE.VOC both came with my Sound Blaster and were
> installed in the \SB\VOXKIT directory)
>
I'm not sure what coems with a Sound Blaster (I have a pro) But
there's a program that I use called SBP-SET that takes an /R paramter
to reset everything.  It's very useful to shut the thing up.
-- 
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Palo Alto, CA 94301 |                  fingers are pointing at himself.
     (415) 326-8224 |                                          - Louis Nizer
From: costello@pokvmcr3.mcl.ibm.com (Ed Costello)
Date: Mon, 7 September 92 21:20:54 EDT
Subject: Re: What is BookMaster ?
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: MVS/JES Information Development, IBM Poughkeepsie
Reply-To: costello@vnet.ibm.com
X-Mailer-Software: POSTNEWS 0.3b

In <715852838.0@ttlg.ttlg.UUCP> Barry.King@ttlg.UUCP writes:
>Not true.  Bookmaster Read/2 is available for OS/2 and works
>quite nicely with OS/2 2.0.  Ask your local IBM rep about the
>product.

Just to clarify something:
BookMaster is the markup language we use for documentation (funny things
 like :p. for a paragraph, :h for a heading)
BookManager Read is the app you use to read "books" built with BookManager
Build.  Bookmanager Read is available for VM, MVS, Dos and OS/2.  Build is
only available on MVS and VM.

                                                                  -ed costello
MVS/JES Information Development * Mid-Hudson Valley Programming Lab * IBM E.S.
vnet: costello at pokvmcr3         bitnet: costello@vnet
 mpn: epc@costello.mcl.ibm.com   internet: costello@vnet.ibm.com
From: broe@plains.NoDak.edu (Paul Broe)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: 1.x -> 2.0 upgrade... Only IBM??
Summary: Interesting restriction...
Keywords: FUBAR
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:35:55 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

People buying old versions of OS/2 may want to be careful:

I just got off the phone to IBM about upgrading my copy of OS/2
1.0 (Compaq labeled version) and was told that the upgrade only applied
to IBM labeled versions. If this is wrong, let me know quick so I get the
order in before the deadline.

Please send any replies to me through e-mail so I don't miss them.

Thanks,
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From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Where are the new newsgroups?
Date: 9 Sep 1992 18:11:00 GMT
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <1992Sep9.164341.7475@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mike Levis) writes:
>After we get these new groups, maybe we can change comp.binaries.os2
>to comp.os.os2.binaries .  This name would be closer to the other OS/2
>newsgroup names.

This is actually a Bad Idea; it's easier for admins to have all the binaries
groups together so they can all be gotten or excluded with one specification
in the file controlling such things. There's also a small but vocal group who
would react to binaries in comp.os.os2.* by dropping the whole hierarchy.

>Maybe we can also create comp.os.os2.ftp where we can discuss ftp
>sites.  This would be the discussion newsgroup for comp.binaries.os2/
>comp.os.os2.binaries.  This can include the weekly posting made by
>the ftp-os2 moderator, as well as authors uploading their programs
>to ftp-os2 ("I just uploaded my new program <xxxx> at ftp-os2"), and
>repost requests ("My site did not receive part 6 of program <xxxx>.
>Can someone e-mail me a copy?").

This is a Nice Idea, but experience in comp.binaries.ibm.pc.{d,archives,
wanted} shows it to be a Bad Thing. One .d group (comp.binaries.os2.d) might
be a Good Thing, but expect it to be filled with a lot of extraneous junk.

-- 
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jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
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            at midnight tonight." -- Dave Newkirk, WJ1Z
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Can you recommend a SCSI and CD-ROM?
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 01:42:05 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.235940.22362@pony.Ingres.COM> edg@Ingres.COM (Ed Goldman) writes:
>In the near future I'll probably be looking into getting a CD-ROM drive
>which I'll be hooking up through a new SCSI board.  I'd like to get the
>best combination that will work under both OS/2 and DOS.  I'm not really
>all that up on this stuff and from postings I've scanned on these topics
>installing SCSI and CD-ROMs seems like it can be fraught with difficulties --
>particularly depending on other devices already installed.
>So, I'm asking the net for any brandname recommendations for a SCSI-CDROM
>setup.  Also, with all the junk I've already got stuffed in the box, will
>I have any problems?  My system is as follows:
>486-33 Local Bus (ET4000)
>16 Meg RAM
>2 IDE Drives: 120 Meg (Bootmanager, C: FAT DOS Boot primary, E: HPFS, F: HPFS)
>	      200 Meg (D: FAT primary)
>Soundblaster (uses IRQ7 - I don't have a printer)
>MPU401 board (uses IRQ5)
>I'm particularly concerned about having 2 IDE's with SCSI (seems like some
>other people had problems with this), and I've got a couple of boards that
>already use IRQ's 5 and 7.

Current recommendation is an Adaptec host adapter with a Toshiba
SCSI-2 or IBM CD-ROM drive.

I see no problems with adding a CD-ROM drive (with this suggested
hardware) to your setup.

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sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/faq.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jst50986@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jack S. Tan)
Subject: Re: Questions with OS/2
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:44:53 GMT
Keywords: OS/2

lutz@solace.psych.rochester.edu (Dave Lutz) writes:

>>- I have been having trouble closing DOS and OS/2 windows on the Desktop.  I
>>  type 'exit' at the prompt, and the title bar changes to "Closing:  DOS [OS/2]
>>  Window," but then does not close.  Double-clicking on the title-bar icon
>>  produces the appropriate waring (losing my data in the active session, etc.),

>  I haven't seen this, but have a possible explanation.  Did you by any chance
>add /P to the command.com options for your DOS window?  The /P option on
>command.com makes the session permanent (ie you can type exit all you want and
>it won't really go away), which may make it impossible to close the window
>normally.

>  This would only explain the problem if CMD.EXE has a similar option, and you
>used that as well.  I don't have an OS/2 system in front of me, so I can't
>check right now.

>Dave Lutz
>lutz@psych.rochester.edu


Thanks for your input.  The problem occurs, however, about 1/3 of the time.
The /P option is not installed for COMMAND.COM.  Perhaps it's in one of the
installed fixes.  I've installed the following patches:
	kernel
	HPFS
	360k
	Tseng

Another problem I had was with accessing my floppy disk drives from both OS/2
and DOS windows.  When I execute '[B:\]dir', for example, I get the drive B
light lit for 3-5 seconds, then drive A (!), then back to drive B.  Not all
the files are listed, either.  It takes a CHKDSK /V to see all the files, and
CHKDSK doesn't report anything wrong with the disk.  The disks were formatted
under MS-DOS 5.0.

Well, I'll see what happens.  The CSD should be out by the next time I use
OS/2.

Sincerely,

Jack Tan
jst50986@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
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From: css0860@summa.tamu.edu (CSS)
Subject: CHANGING ICON TEXT---Attn: IBM OS/2 TEAM
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Reply-To: css0860@zeus.tamu.edu
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 21:13:00 GMT

I like having a bmp on my desktop or on a folder.  That's really neat
I like having different bmps in different folders.  What would really top
this off nicely is to be able to adjust the color of a) the icon text color,
b) the color of a background around the icon text color ) so that I can
read the name of the icon without having to click on it.  Configuring this
with a scheme doesn't seem to have an effect if you have an image on the
background instead of color.  The text remains black even if I have it
configure for white.  Now if I set the background to a color and not
an image...it's white, or pink or whatever I want it to be.

In windows there is this background behind icon-titles which makes the
titles easy to read nomatter what color text or bmp you have.

Would just be nice.  

Thanks, steve.
eagerly awaiting S3 drivers.


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From: shurr@cbnews.cb.att.com (larry.a.shurr)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Icon Size using Tseng400 1024x768
Keywords: OS2
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:07:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus, OH

In article <BuEFC5.E11@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> schovier@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Eric) writes:
>Does anyone know how to make the Icons smaller using the Tseng 4000
>drivers?  The large size is extremely annoying!

I got this info in this group a few days ago.  I can't remember who posted
it right now.

Use a hex editor (I used BEAV) and search the .DLL file for the pattern
"40 00 40 00 20 00 20 00" and replace it with "20 00 20 00 20 00 20 00".

The original post said that if you can't find "40 00 40 00..." try
"28 00 28 00 20 00 20 00" -- though I did not have to do this.

Larry
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jreynold@nmt.edu (John Reynolds)
Subject: Re: Why I love OS/2. (Kids, try this at home!)
Organization: New Mexico Tech
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:40:48 GMT

>Hey, I can beat this!  Try this on for size. . .
>
>Yesterday, I was FTP'ing from a local site, and all of a sudden, my WPS
>crashed (BTW, this was about the 4th time its happened since April).  I
>saw the WPS close, and there was my FTP window.  It was still open, and
>FTP'ing!
>The WPS reopened, and a few seconds later, FTP told me it was done
>getting the 2 meg file!  Pretty cool.

Yes, this is *cool*, and shows OS/2's "stuff", but I have a burning
question. How did the WPS restart itself? I posted a question a while back
about the same topic and got no response. Is there a special parameter or
config.sys directive to add or what? In addition, how/why did WPS crash?
Just instantly, or did you try and start a DOS session while FTP'ing? I've
had that very problem several times. I've got several apps (os2 or win-os2)
going, and I try to start a DOS app, and everything hangs (though, pulse,
PMEYES, and PMCLOCK are still busily doing their jobs--and the file system
sync's when I Ctr-Alt-Del [only solution...no ctr-esc, etc.]).

What's the deal????

-Jr
ps. I HAVE NOT DONE THIS, DO NOT KNOW IF IT'S TRUE, BUT...
I read here, that someone runs WPS as a child process (the parent I don't
know) so that if/when WPS crashes, he can kill it and start over. I don't
know if this is possible or smart, but nonetheless. I'm looking for answers
to these annoying crashes.

-- 
Windows...It's like a stale cookie.
OS/2..."It's like butter" (SNL quote)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: TW.FY4@isumvs.iastate.edu (Timothy I Miller)
Subject: Re: So what about the Sound Blaster Drivers?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:42:00 GMT

  A sales rep at Creative Labs told me that the drivers *may* be
available at the end of the week, but she has been telling everyone
the end of the month 'just in case they're not done.'  Maybe MS
could learn a lesson from them :-).
  The bboard number is (408) 428-6660, and customer support/sales is
(800) 998-5227.  It's hard to get through, though.
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Some suggestions for OS/2
Date: 4 Sep 92 22:57:39 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <7245@lib.tmc.edu> jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.021506.16434@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>>5.25" disk drives should have 5.25" disks as icons (NOT 3.5" ones)
>>I think someone figured out how to change the icon, but I don't
>>remember the details.  Does anyone recall where that information is
>>located?
>
>I did this once upon a time; all it took was going to the General page of the
>Settings notebook for the drive object in the OS/2 System -> Drives folder,
>and selecting Edit Icon. I had to create an icon by hand, though. I wanted to
>cut the 5-1/4" picture from the Selective Install stuff, but wasn't able to.

Note that you must have a disk in the drive while opeining the
settings for a drive object.  This is probably a bug of some kind.  It
doesn't seem to be necessary (at least for changing the icon)

>Since then, I've reinstalled my system, and would like to have a 5-1/4" icon
>back without having to draw it by hand. Any suggestions?

I can send you a .ICO file with one, if you want.  Or, you can use the
program icon.exe (available from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu) to capture the
5.25" disk icon from the Windows DOS Executive (MSDOS.EXE) that comes
with all Windows installations.  Of course, you need Windows for this.

Drawing it by hand isn't that bad, though.  Once you are done, save it
back to the temp file, and before exiting the icon editor, save it
elsewhere with a different name.  This way, you'll have the .ico file
for next time you need it.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: kirchner@uklira.informatik.uni-kl.de (Reinhard Kirchner)
Subject: Re: The CSD will be free! ( In Germany also ? )
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:27:13 GMT

From article <1992Sep10.211223.13714@utdallas.edu>, by goyal@utdallas.edu (Mohit K. Goyal):
> To those of you who don't know, IBM has repeatedly stated that the upcoming
> bug fixes and enhancements will be free.
> 
Or will it be as free in Germany as the upgrade from 1.3 is
( DM 179,- + VAT for schools ) ?

Reinhard Kirchner
Univ. of Kaiserslautern, Germany
kirchner@informatik.uni-kl.de

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: irobert@sunee.uwaterloo.ca (Ian Robertson)
Subject: OS/2 Preformance.
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 00:53:26 GMT



   I've been thinking of moving to OS/2 from DOS/Windows (Which incidently I'm 
not happy with -- too many crashes ). I've got a 386/25MHz machine with 
8 megabytes memory. Will preformance on such a system be decent? Should
I spend my upgrade money on a video accelerator or a faster motherboard?
Also has ATi released drivers for the Ultra or Vantage for OS/2?
     Thanks in advance
       Ian
From: mjn@sbmiclr.cs.sunysb.edu (The Sixth Replicant)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Problem with serial communications
Date: 12 Sep 92 02:41:14 GMT
Organization: Tyrell Corp.


I don't beleive I've seen anyone describing the exact problems I'm having
with communications so here goes:

Running 9600 baud file transfers using OS/2 comm programs I get numerous NAK's.
The one DOS program I have which works under OS/2 gives smooth file transfers,
both under native DOS and DOSOS2. I suspect characters are getting dropped
somewhere between the modem and the PC comm program.


HW:
    386-33 AMI Bios
    COM1    Zoom FAX Modem V32.bis internal (16550)
    COM2    Mouse
    COM3    None
    COM4    None

SW:
    OS/2    (Obviously)
    Comm drivers from the older COMMGA, not 2210, which everyone has been
        having problems with:
        COM      SYS     24792   4-23-92  4:40p
        VCOM     SYS     10752   4-24-92  3:32p

    Kermit 5A(183) 32-bit
    TE/2 for OS/2
    Pibterm 4.1

Running Pibterm in a DOS window, I get 700-900 cps kermit transfers which seems
like a fairly plausible transfer rate. I get no NAKs. I've run this in the
background with various things in the foreground. I'm using 10 packet
sliding windows.

Running Kermit-32 I get many NAKs. The number appears to rise if I do
other things in the foreground. I still get perhaps 600 cps. (10 packet
sliding windows).

Running TE/2 doing a Zmodem transfer I get large numbers of retries. I end
up with perhaps a 200-300 cps data rate.

I've tried a lot of futzing with the MODE parameters. In this experimenting
I've noticed a peculiarity which may just be a documentation bug. When I
come up, the COM mode doesn't correspond to the defaults claimed in the
on-line and hardcopy docs. Specifically: I get
IDSR = OFF
ODRS = OFF
OCTS = OFF
where the defaults are supposed to be ON. Anyway...  My file transfer
problems don't go away with diddling these parameters, nor with
turning BUFFER=ON.

The biggest difference I see between me and most people around seems to be
that most people are running off COM3, not COM1. Clearly this should not be
a problem, but perhaps there's a COM1-only bug.

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

            Thanks

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: cpbaltus@cs.vu.nl (Baltus CPS)
Subject: OS/2 version 2.2?
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:34:40 GMT

Hi,

Yesterday i read in the Dutch magazine 'Computable' that IBM was planning to
release OS/2 2.2 (!) this month! The developers were three months ahead on
schedule so they were able to compete with Windows NT. 

Can anyone tell me more about this?

                        Stefan.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: hafting@Lise.Unit.NO (Helge Hafting)
Subject: Re: Win-os2 full screen -- does it share resources???
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 14:42:06 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.170717.17941@nmt.edu>, jreynold@nmt.edu (John Reynolds) writes:
 > I've got a question about win-os2 full screen. On my computer at work, I've
 > just got a VGA card, so I can run windoze apps through seemless windows.
 > It appeared to me that once OS/2 loaded it's seemless session of win-os2,
 > that when other windoze apps were started seemlessly, the win-os2 code was
 > used again (2 seconds to load an additional app vs. loading dos and win-os2
 > again, then loading the app).
 > 
 > On my computer at home, I've got an ATI ultra and I configured win-os2 to
 > a higher res, forcing me to run all windoze apps in full screen mode. My
 > question is this: Is there any way to make OS/2 re-use its win-os2/fullscreen
 > resources as described above in the seemless case? Every windoze app that I
 > open runs dos, then win-os2/fullscreen, then the app. That seems like a waste
 > of memory, disk thrashing and time.
 > 
 > 
 > -John
 > -- 
 > Windows...It's like a stale cookie.
 > OS/2..."It's like butter" (SNL quote)

For each windows program, there is a setting specifying wether it will
run in a separate windows session or not.

If changing this setting don't help, then try to start your additional
windows apps from the win-os/2 desktop, don't start them from PM.


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From: frank@algol.bsa.de (Frank Huemme)
Subject: more than 2 ser. devices
Organization: BSA
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 16:00:25 GMT

Hello,
for a new project i have to check if is's possible to make it with os/2
instead of xenix. 3-4 serial devices are needed, are (cheap) cards incl.
drivers availble. What about digital IO/cards ( and drivers ). Any help
are welcome.

		Frank
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: tom@nds.com (Tom Williamson)
Subject: Line buffering in OS/2 window
Reply-To: tom@nds.COM (Tom Williamson)
Organization: Northwest Digital Systems
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 21:08:34 GMT

This should be an easy one (I hope).

I would like to know how to set the number of lines that will buffer in an 
os2 window.  When I open a standard os2 window, often there is no scroll bar 
on the right hand side.  After using the command line for a while, I notice 
a scroll bar has appeared.  The problem is that it will only buffer two lines. 
This seems hardly worth the effort.  Is there a way to change the default?  
I would like to have at least a 100 line buffer.  Since we have scroll bars, 
let's make 'em work.

I imagine the answer to this is real obvious.  Please someone, hit me up the 
side of the head with it.

Thanks

Tom Williamson
tom@nds.com
From: ahrar@acad2.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Help sys0005 errors??
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:11:25 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska

I have just installed os/2 w/ boot manager on my stand alone 486/33 ISA.
 I have 8 me of memory, Ultrastor caching IDE controller, Diamond Stealth Video, and an 
IDE hard drive. I run win 3.1 under dos for many different DOS and Windows
applications of all sorts including e.g. Procomm, Winfax, Fractint, PS Pro,
None of these , nor anyhting that wasnt on the default database migration
list-well almost nothing - wants to run under OS/2. I get a SYS0005 ERROR
on dos applications and an "unexpected DOS error 5" on windows applications.
I tried the help for the error but it didnt tell me anything (at least nothing
that made sense to me).
Because the error is uniform and because I assume that OS/2 would be 
uniformly ridiculed if it were truly this useless for DOS and WIN , I must be
missing something obvious. 
Please E-mail me the answer or at least a reference to where I can find the 
answer.

ahrar@acad2.alaska.edu
Bob Rehbock