From: v125p7c5@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Michael Lamanna)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Vampire Victims Needed for TV Interview!
Summary: Conservation of Energy!!!!!!!!!
Keywords: possible
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:36:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
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In article <21020@plains.NoDak.edu>, dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry) writes...
>>	Even if Black holes do exist then you would have to prove the 
>>existence of white holes.  (Matter, Time and Mass are thrown back into the 
>>universe)
> 
>Black holes are largely held to exist. Stephen Hawking, for one, would be
>soundly upset to learn that he's been spending his chair-ridden life
>worrying over something that a poster on Usenet disproved.

	Yes he would be upset that he has wasted his time.  Has he found one?
No.  Does the existence of a black hole appear anywhere other than in theory?
No.  Would it be possible to explore one?  No.  Would it be possible to get
near one?  No.  
	Do you see the pattern here?  A black hole contains a perfect black
body.  That is something that has no volume.  Absolutely nothing.  Not 
some that you could neglect, but absolutely none.  Not only does it have no
volume, but it has infinite mass.  Not just some large number that it
approaches infinity, but infinite.  Now you are trying to tell me that 
this does exist.  Please do not waste my time.  They teach the fact that 
black holes do not exist in physics for the following reasons:

	1) They absorb all energy.  (From mass from heat from everything)
	2) They are frictionless.  (of course they have no area for the 
				    any friction to act on.)
	3) They have infinite mass.  (That would mean that they have all the
				      mass of the universe.)
	
	The idea was created to simplify physics.  You assume a perfect black
body so that you can neglect all the energy of the system do to heat, and
particle motion.  It simplifies the calculation of things when you are first
learning physics.

>But in any case, why should we have to prove that white holes exist if
>you accept the postulate of black holes existing?
> 
	Next point.  Conservation of energy.  If energy is being sucked in to 
a black hole then eventually there will be no energy.  No light no nothing.  It
will all have been sucked into the black hole.  The first law of thermo
dynamics says "Energy can be neither created nor destroyed. "  So to prove the
black hole exists prove to me that you can violate this law and I will give up
my pursuit of engineering and become a philanthropist for the rest of my life.

>-- 
>David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - CTHULHU in '92! Why vote for LESSER evils?
>"Boy, do I love PLASTIC!" -- TJ Teru // What was your question? --Kate Bush
>"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
>dhenry@plains.nodak.edu * ud137927@ndsuvm1.bitnet * ud137927@vm1.nodak.edu


	I would also like to add one last thing this group is alt.vampyre not
alt.physics.theory.unproven so please let this rest and talk about the 
creature of the night.  
	My e-mail address is below so use it if you want to discus this
further.

						Michael Lamanna
					     University At Buffalo
					       Civil Engineering

	"It is easier to get forgiven than permission."


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